Hit it. Hit it. You missed all that gold. Hello, and welcome to the finale force. Welcome. Includes all limited to your favorite host.  Mewbsley. Oh, my goodness. And of course, the classic return of such incredible characters as Cavadalow Opinions, Fringy, John C.J.G., J. Longbone, Metal Commander, Rags, and of course, Crickle Drinker. Hello there. How you doing? I heard you were a man down for some reason that I can't explain, so I thought I'd fill in, you know. Oh, yeah. And you were like, oh, you've got a space for so. That's my favorite. That's what you said. I am so excited. I haven't watched the so movie in literally a decade. Exactly. I can't wait. Well, you've seen them all. You had so much to drink. You forgot all the plot. You forgot it all. And now we're going to have to. I think I think that's what happens sometimes.  Yeah, you can't comprehend it. And so you have to just take a step back. I have to jettison the information else my brain might explode from left to right. Real quick, yes or no. Are you a fan of the Saw franchise? No, no. Yes. I think, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. No. I am specifically a fan of this because of the goof factor. I thought I would be rewatching it. I was like, yeah, absolutely. This is so funny.  I don't think the Saw 10, Saw X is going to care about Jigsaw or Spiral. It's going to care about Saw's one through seven. They're the ones that are on there. Yeah, I assume we all agree. The hopes for this film are to see lots of Jigsaw, plenty of Hoffman to see plenty of maybe Amanda. I mean, I'm OK with seeing Amanda if she's not cringe, Amanda, if she's like normal Amanda. I'm fine with Saw. Give us good, Amanda. Saw one, Amanda's good. Saw two, Amanda's like, no, it's fine. I'm fine with it. Saw three, Amanda's insane.   I would assume that this is going to be another prequel about what he was doing. Maybe like this is for realsies, the first thing he does, actually, we're going to squeeze something into the timeline somewhere so that we can have our Saw actor. And that's just what my guess would be. I really don't know. It could be anything, though my guess would be that based on, you know, the Jigsaw and Spiral not being good, that it might be more focused, that it will try to hone in on kind of the core promise of Saw, which is traps that are interesting and thematically relevant. That's my hope anyway. Metal, what do you want it to be?  It's actually Larry's who asked that question.  And it's just going to make all these old people do tests. I hope it's as silly as possible, because I don't expect it to be good. But about the plot, I won't spoil any of it, but it intrigues me. I feel like this is going to be the most Jigsaw-centric one out of all of them. And I want to see him make a mistake in this one, you know, where he seriously has to like rethink his approach and then that shapes what the chronologically following movies become. Lauren, what do you want to avoid in this film happening? The early 2000s editing, I hope I've learned from that. Oh God, I'm just a little bit. Drinker, what can I ask you other than why are you even here? What are you expecting to happen? I have no idea why I'm here. From what I expect to happen, I'm kind of with Rags on this one. If they brought the original actor back, it's probably going to be some kind of prequel. I guess explaining why he gets into this whole business of torturing people. I hope that we're going to have traps that are actually escapable and maybe one or two people actually do. Like, I just want there to be rules that it sticks to.  You can go one of two directions for me. What I want is either hypersilly or actually give it a proper go and make a serious soul movie that you can actually get some, you know, like saw six levels, but better even one or the other or a fun combination of both. Cause that's kind of what saw six was. So you guys all ready? I'm slowly ready. Alrighty then. Three, two, one, go. Oh God. I kind of like how this looks like he's caught in a trap himself. Yeah, you can go that way for sure. That's interesting. Yeah. Then of course, his own body here. Immediate confirmation of timeline. If you have any familiarity with saw, he's getting his S for his brain fuckery. Would you like some help too? Thank you very much. You're very kind. The fact that they had him say, you're very kind to the lady. I've always felt like they've tried to argue John Kramer's a nice person throughout these movies. And it's just like, yeah, I know you think that. Today is a gift. That's why they call it the present. Feels stolen. I don't know who said it first, but it just feels right and comfortable. Well, I mean, obviously Kong Fu Panda did it. And as a statement, as a sense of it, it's been around for a long time though. Today is a gift. That is why it is called the present. Sometimes those who accept their fate have an easier time. Use your time. What the? Dying. See, it's on theme. The people who are more ready to die, die more.  It's very straightforward. The crazy part of all this is just like, this is probably a good choice. We need to know him better.  At least they're getting around to it now. The 10th movie. He's a ninja. He's a ninja assassin. Isn't it funny though? Oh no, he's doing his watch right here. I'm so skeptical.  They made an Asian guy the janitor. That's progressive. Oh, he's getting some ideas for trapperies. Yeah, I think he actually is. Oh, look at that. When he was seen in the marketing for this, this is already the promoted trap. So what is it?  Did everybody assume that? I honestly, my first assumption was it was gonna pour something into his eyes. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. My thought really vacuum as well. I thought vacuum. I'd like to play a game. Perhaps one that addresses those sticky fingers of yours. Some of the song movies made me wanna be in this trap. What's wrong with you? What? So I guess by this point, he had his apprentices that could kidnap people for him, right? That's a great question. Well, is he just imagining this? Is it not actually real? Because this looks like it's right after. This is right after he learns he's got brain cancer, so. Just wondering if he's just fantasizing about this and it's not actually happening. Oh, he's imagining what you could do to this guy. Break five fingers to save my eyes? That's easy. Yeah, he's obviously dead.  I would just move the dial across the full way. Yep, I just do it. Just get it all over with. Just do it real quick. Yeah, doing it like this.  Why do that? Oh, yeah, there it is. I do like my fingers, but you can get them back. Yeah, well, they're not being just broken. Yeah, they get them set back in place. And plus, that'll help you not steal stuff. Yeah, you'll think about this every time in the future. Yeah, you might be stealing from something like a bath. There they go. We're gonna go. One by one, that's just mean. So he lost all the fingers at the eyes. Well, that happens a lot. That does happen a lot in the sores, and you know exactly why, because people want to see them go through the pain of the actual success of the trap, but also the trap. From sores, or rather jigsaw's point of view, it's a good trap, but it's one of the easiest ones in the whole franchise now. But was that a vanity? If they were all something like that, and we saw some people actually do it, that would be way more interesting. The reverse bear trap is iconic, but we didn't see that go off for seven movies. Yeah, well, because Amanda escaped that one only because it felt like the easiest, actual easiest, because it didn't involve her having to suffer at all necessarily like her own body. She had to make someone else suffer. John Kramer. I remember you. Good to see you. And you as well. I want John Kramer to say the n-word as a term of a nearer. He needs the cat back if he's gonna do that. Monster Getty. Stage four, pancreatic.  Complete remission after stage four. A miracle. Imagine I read about a doctor, a specialist of sorts, a doctor. Finn Peterson. Jordan Peterson. No. I cleaned my room. I cleaned your room over and over again. I cleaned my room and my cancer went away. Oh my God. I thought he was gonna show me his days.   He's got to do everything. I will say Tobin Bell's looking so old, man. And ghostly. Poor guy. The whole problem was they didn't take advantage of him when they should have. He was an actor. Now they're like, yeah. Let me make a whole movie about you when you're super old. Imagine being 81 years old, though. I'm still doing movies like this. Hell yeah. That's just badass.   It's fantastic.  Yeah, look at that. Instead of just making it, you know, 480p or something. Yeah, it should be. I mean, well, if we go to the early 2000s, it doesn't be like 240. My father, Dr. Finn Peterson, was forced into hiding by corrupt governments and their relationship to Big Fun because my father was on the cusp of curing dozens of diseases.  Jesus, yeah. You have a big jaw. Look at her head. It's got a really big jaw and it's narrower at the top. She's just like... She is like the gigachurch, you know?  The only thing about this is we know he doesn't get his cancer solved. That's what they want you to think. Whatever this is, you know, it can't work out. Maybe they cloned him. Oh, my God. They're gonna make a trap. Trout was actually... If you go in the silly route, that's absolutely where I would have gone with it. And I think a lot of people agree, right?  I wonder if you could... Could you tell me a little more about the treatment? Of course. It's a two-prong treatment. We stick two prongs in you. And then hope for the best. But I want you to know that we've found a very beautiful occasion for our clinic outside Mexico City. What date did you have in mind? The fifth. Right after next. I think I could make that. So, he's so in right now. He's doing the sores. He's got sore traps running with people because this is... Once he already has the cancer. And I believe he started sore traps before he even got the cancer. Because that's a timeline. I just like torturing people. Well, the guy who killed his wife's baby by... Putting the door into her. He did the sore trap on him. And then from there, he was like, I'm going to start doing this for more people to teach them that life is worth living. And then he got the cancer.  And that's where he started traps for them. The way this is presented, if you watch this on its own, you'd think he's a kindly old man.   Yeah, there's no qualms about that. He's a really shitty, terrible person. Yeah, the reason he checked his watch just now is like, oh, someone should have died like right now. Oh, that Bob's trap's already done now. I'll call Amanda and get her out of there. I wonder if he ate his own spleen to survive. Oh, no. Oh, well, this is happening now. The cancer out of you. Dude, we're going to shoot the camera. We're going to shoot every cell.  Dude, I love this. He's like, but I'm the serial killer.  That one-time soul got swatted. Your room. Here. Come. Oh, I guess we chill at this point. Yeah. Okay. Are you okay, by the way? Yeah, I guess I am. We're going to keep on our balaclavas. You have a nice day. I don't know how much of this is performance and how much of this is him being a very old man that he's just like... We don't even know what you're doing on set. Are we rolling? The men with the guns in the van? Are they? That was a movie, right? Come. It's your room. This seems like a totally legit medical clinic. So what's crazy right now is it feels like the film is actually relying on Tobin Bell's acting ability as a big portion of the film's quality, and he's not that bad at all. I quite like him. Well, he looks frail and vulnerable, so maybe because he actually is. Yeah. His age is retroactively doing a good job making him look frail here. There's only one thing to conclude from this is that these guys are not telling him the truth because he does not get rid of his cancer. Once upon a time, that boy was just a tumor. Now look at him. We take the tumors out of people and grow them. We grow them. This used to be a chemical factory back in the day.   Oh, yeah. This is so off the books and like... Yeah. Just like... Oh, that's a little more reassuring, I guess. Yeah. It is more reassuring, yeah. I'm sorry about cancer. It's honest. Yeah? Brain. Did they bring you with masks, people and guns as here as well? Did they do the gun thing with you? He coughs and jigsaw looked around like it's abnormal. Is he dead? Have you killed him? Are you part of the 10%? I don't know. You got a tumor the size of my knob. I'm just about to start the coattail. Mutated natural killer cells. They're a type of cytotoxic lymphocyte. We've been jerking in with science. They have him laid down and they're about to start they get a hammer. That's it. Okay, John, just stay still.  If that doesn't work, we've got plenty of fire on the go. Once we used fire, add the hammer. It was crazy. What do you do? I have a few hobbies. I help people overcome inner obstacles. You sure about that? It is four in the morning.  Do you like... Because he's an engineer and he knows stuff. He helps someone with a bike. He just wigs it with traps. That'll teach you to wake me up in the middle of the night. How do you say pull? Pull. Pull. Pull. How do you say pull? Hola.  Now your wheel is round.  I'm trying to sleep. Do you want to be my apprentice? Could you imagine this wheel?  Do you like hurting people? I've heard things about the Hispanics. I just wanted to check. We found a tape in your brain. What was that about? You're reading this. You're operating on my brain. Thank you. I appreciate it. Oh my God. I can see the cancer. Is that my brain? Whoa. My brain, dude. Why do you have the monitor on this side? No, no, no. Look at the brain, please. Eyes on the brain. Eyes on the brain. Imagine they were like...    I can see all of the smartness in there. No. Drink two days. One in the morning and one at night. Okay. If you see the scary monsters, don't believe what they say. The third monster, take his key. You'll need it. Dr. Pearson, just so you know, I'll wire the second half of the payment the wrong way. Thank you, John. Have a good life, John. So I figured that they'd bamboozled him. They've cheated him and he's taken his money and they haven't treated him at all. And that's gonna... That's gonna be a way better foundation. Yeah, I think if they'd actually tried and just wasn't able to help him, that would be... That's not really enough justification. But if this is a racket that runs... I think that wire is just like, oh, yeah, no, I'll send for the next payment. That just to me seems like, yeah, that's right. Yeah, because the guy's with the guns kidnapped him so he wouldn't know exactly where he was going, presumably, right? Yeah, so how can he be chasing down? Boy, I am looking good now. Oh no, it's all three-man. This is him happily just getting these torture traps.   Oh, he feels bad about it, I guess. This doesn't have the satisfaction he used to. Oh, yeah, what is that supposed to mean? Maybe that he's not feeling it. Well, yeah, maybe he's putting it behind him because he's happy now. Oh no, that it's all gonna go really wrong. He's drinking like a good man should. That means he's healthy.  They're just hard cuts to you have liver cancer. He's like, oh. Radio tower. Oh, he's locating it. He's figuring out where he got taken. Oh, okay. Because he's a smart man. Wasn't that night when he went outside? Oh, because he wants to give them the gift. He wants to give her a gift. Yeah, and he's gonna find out that they bamboozled him. That's cool. I like that. That's actually okay. Yeah, shows he's a clever fella figuring it all out. This film is so far fine.  Yeah. The biggest issue I take is the dumbass who couldn't complete his trap by pulling the dial all the way, but whatever, I guess. I'm still not convinced that trap even actually happened. No, that was just to imagine it. I think it happened. It's false. So this is a scam, basically. If it was a scam, they would have packed it up and left. Well, they're probably gonna use everything. No, but they're probably gonna use it again, aren't they? For the next guy. Well, why didn't they take this? Well, they would have taken all their stuff.  Oh, well, he needs this to be left here so he can discover. I think that the video was the same every time. That was what I was thinking. Yeah. The thing is, like, you would think they would have taken this stuff. Yeah, I see, it's the same video. No. Yeah, I'm not sure what the idea is with, like, it looks like they were robbed. To be fair, even if you found a wound on your head, they could have just done that in general.  Looks like a surgical scar. But I suppose this definitively proves that nothing was done. How you feeling there, John? Not you, John, this John. Oh, he's getting real mad. Oh, the editing. Don't Chris rocket? Oh, that was expensive. Yeah, he's throwing out. Drunker. The racket might be that they bamboozled five people at a time or something. And then change the organization, you know, try again now. They gave that guy a scar.  Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, there you go. Oh, no. There we go. Get him. Oh, no, he made my hands into sticks. I have to give some room for some because we know how this works.  Oh, hey, they're going to make the most out of using Tobin Bell's acting as much as they can, which is probably a good decision. That's probably going to get him killed one day. He'll set the trap off. But he's not going to know that. So yeah, that's reasonable. No. Yeah, I escaped your trip. Uh-oh. That was two pipe bombs. Yeah, I think so. Oh, he's one of the surgeons. The blades cannot cut through the galvanized cable, but they can slice through. Flash, flash, flash, flash, flash. He's looking at him like, yeah, you're fucked, buddy.  But it gets on. It's interesting because the puppet always seemed like a troll, but Jigsaw himself seems more like a, yeah, doesn't this suck? Yeah. So something I really like is that Jigsaw's having no hesitation in staring right at them as they deal with this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Where's he running to? I guess he's panicking. That's the thing about arms, you see. They just come with you. He's trying to run from his arm. I can't lose them. You best get going. How many minutes did he have? Was it three? Three, man. Dude, you got to get going. Go, go, go. You got two of them, too, as well. Yeah, he gets one off and then the other one not. And it goes that way. You got half of the trying to get out of the trap and then the payoff of the trap. Yeah, he's lost half of his timer and full already. Oh, that's going to be rough. Can't cut through the cables, obviously, but already I'm like, dude, blood loss is going to be huge on this. Yeah, there's no way. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. He's like, man, he's actually doing it. Okay. He's like, yeah, I'm okay. It would be so funny if he cheerleaded like, you can do it. I believe in you. All right. Becoming a person. Good job. One down. All right. Yeah. 40 seconds to do a whole lot. No, I don't know why. Not enough time. It's not going to work. Your other arm's not going to work though, really, is it? He's still going to be good at chopping because he's taken out most of the flesh. He's not taken out like tendons or anything, is he? It's a separate tape to him, as well. But I get what you mean, yeah. It's looking pretty nasty.  Dude, I think you need to rely on pulling it, like when you have the chance. Oh, okay. Oh, he did it. Kick, kick, kick, kick. Get away. Get away. Get away. Get away. Get away.  There you go. He survived.  Oh, that's the first time that happened. I'll admit. And I'm not even kidding. I know it sounds insane, but that was one of the easiest traps, but he did it. Well, I mean, yeah. One of the man originally was probably the easiest. That's why I said one of the easiest. This is ranking like bottom 10, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But good on you. Yeah. You're going to be okay. Look, he's being nice, because Jigsaw's a nice man, see? I like that we actually see someone succeed at least. I'm sure I'm going to get a good job, Phil. Seriously, though, I think they're not going to show it, but like that guy's just like, yeah, I'm going to blindfold you now. I'm going to drop you off and don't speak of this or I will trap you again. It'd be so funny if he captures the both of them that lets the guy go because he's got beef with the girl. Yeah, this is just rape. This is just a casual rape. Oh, this is just a crime crime.   And then we see Jack Kramer walking away in a Batman costume. Who's Jack Kramer? It's twin. Dejaron la comida liste todo. Oh, he's definitely one of the guys, isn't he? They're just grabbing all of them and then we're just going to do all of that.  Yeah, I don't want to see someone get their spleen ruptured because they smoke, you know? But you're actually really bad people. Surely most would agree that this is already in the top four saw films. The three and a half saw films I've seen, it's definitely in the top four. Well, so far, what I wanted was rules that the film abides by, traps that are actually escapable and we seem to have had it so far. Yeah, we've had two escapable traps. Oh, my glutes. I'm not going to say strong use of the budget, but, you know, good use. It doesn't look like it's... Yeah, I believe they're in Mexico. And not to look super cheap. Yeah. I believe that they're in rooms. Oh, yeah, I thought they were in rooms as well. Oh, no, I hate when this happens. Room for two? No, has el number dos. Don Mace against me. Oh, that was just mean. You didn't need to do that. You could have just put me in the soul trap. You didn't even put pepper spray on me. I know which character is going to get the worst death. Hitler. Wait, what did they do? That went through two floors? Was it all there? Those with glass houses should not throw cinder notes. Yeah, there he is. Yeah, that's right. Back team. Crimer and Hoffman working together. Yeah, there he is. Disappointed! It's Amanda. That's Amanda. That's exciting. Less exciting than Hoffman, but I'll take it. I actually do like eating how they kidnap people a bit. Who are you? No, yeah, I've always like the distraction and then attack and stuff. It works. Remember, a lot of the soul films would just have them go I don't need this. Yeah, we don't need to know this. We could have figured it was Amanda. I know that I'm watching Saw and you assume I have low IQ, but I do actually know that. Don't you worry, audience. It wasn't the old man that did it all of it. It was the young man. Or was it then he called Hoffman and then Hoffman called her? Oh, you're all in places that don't look great. So I imagine she's going to make it right to the end. Yeah, she'll be the last. And then we'll get the most worst one. The actress for Amanda, she's got to be. Well, it's nearly been 20 years since Saw. So they trust me. I respect the fact that they've not done any de-aging crap, but at the same time. I just accept that this is the case. Yeah, it's kind of a pick your poison kind of thing. Yeah.  Or do you want, you know, all the looking actors? John? John? They're all like, this is a bit much, John. Like, what's going on? We are prepared to offer you a refund. John, what if we actually got rid of you guys? We could do it, I swear.  That's an interesting change. Well, so that's the thing. It's a break of the format, but I kind of like it. It gives him more to do, and like, he's good at it.  So, and I like that they've got a lot to complain about, but they've also got a lot to regret. Mr. Graver. I meant no harm.  Play the sob story with me. Go ahead. I don't know who you are. I just really hate women. That haircut is awful. Yeah. I was actually about to ask, is that supposed to be an accurate haircut or something? Look at that. Oh, damn. Okay. There are certain moments where her age is like, staggeringly obvious, and then sometimes gone. Yeah. Yeah. She should not be in this lighting. They need to do the thing they did with Toma.  I wish this was Hoffman instead. Oh, God.  You kidding me? No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Calm down. Why would you do that? Even he was like, what are you doing? You promised dying people. Dying people. You could save their lives. And in doing so, you took advantage of the only thing that they still possessed. Hope. Wow. Yeah. Okay. They really have gone for that, a lot of soul films as these people didn't deserve it. But this film is really trying to crank like, yeah, why these ones are in here, right? Amanda isn't quite as annoying yet. No, she's good. Fine. But that's the thing. If she were Hoffman, she'd be more than fine.  She looks like a Romulan from Star Trek. There are more than five pounds of marrow in the human body. All you need is three ounces, more than enough in your femur. Just suction it out. It'll be transferred to that device right there. And it'll deactivate the saw around your neck. I had already questioned whether or not she could stay alive after sawing off her leg. That's, yeah. That's something that like, I know that he is interested because he dropped down like a medical kit. The guy who did the pipe bombs. But at least that one, if he wrapped up his arms, I can understand how that can delay, you know, any death.  I don't know what else there would be. There's a couple of things wrong here I'd say. I don't see how she survives this. Is that just a belt? Yeah. I feel like you just, that's not even tight. That's not very tight.  See, it would be different if it was like a button that you had to press and that would chop your leg off. So it's like, okay, the work's done for you. But if you do it to yourself, I don't think that's gonna be possible. I'm Amanda. I'd be like, why have you made this a two factor saw trap? She has to cut the leg off, which is already insanely difficult. Yeah.  Like why? The essence of saw traps are you have the willpower to live, right? Yeah. I feel like she's proving that she does. Yeah. If you've already done this, you've kind of made the sacrifice already.  So that's pretty bad. This is intense for someone to do to prove that they want to live. But I don't know how much he actually wants any of these people to live. Jesus, she's going for it. Yeah, she's, wow. Come on. Whoa, she's actually through it all. Something like that. She's through the bone as well. Getting through the bone has got to be the tough part, really, isn't it? Now she's just like, wow, she's done it. It's like, oh, this is fine. Oh. Good job. See, so if I were, if I were working with Saw, I'd be like, she's done it, man. That's it. She's done it. Yeah. Okay, wait, but if she's got to get into the artery, how the hell is she going to do that? It would be difficult for a doctor to do that. Jesus. Why is this necessary? She's done the hard bit. Oh, man. That's not fair. She did it. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved to live. By the way, that was just cruel. She did the, she did something incredibly difficult. You could have had like a weight thing on the floor that active.  Just once the legs off, she's done it. That's it. Simple as that. It seems like she was already screwed, right? Like by the time the blood was pumping, it's like, yeah, it's already over. So what's the point of that? She just has to sit there and wait and watch. That's what I mean. It doesn't test anything about willpower at that point. Like if Jigsaw had made it so they had three minutes and 30 seconds, she dies. But we need to show the light coming off too. We're getting old. The man is like, nah, I'm still young. He's like, yeah, sure. If you're wanting anybody with that wig. Cosplaying as a robular doesn't make you look any young. They're not looking. Why don't we use the clothes to guide them and take it? Yes, yes, yes. We can do that. Oh my God. They're using new clothes. Man, we haven't done that since like salt one. Like the victims are actually trying to do something.  Humans are totally going to do that. I'm not ready to do this without you. You are ready. And you can. Do you ever think that maybe we're insane? No. Okay. I'm going to go touch it. I'm going to poke it. She's okay. You okay? You okay? Hey, get up. Oh, that looks pretty That looks very ragdolly. Yeah. You got to weigh that down a bit, guys. It's like a mannequin. It's not limp enough. That lady doctor deserves nothing. Everyone deserves a chance an opportunity to redeem themselves. You should know that more than anyone. It's interesting that he believes that, but I don't know how he knows that a person being willing to like cut their own leg off to live would make them a better person. Well, this seems explicitly more about revenge. Yes, except that he's like, well, if they pass my test, then they're good to go. That's chilling everything, but he knows full well these people will want him to suffer and escape right. Ugh. What's your idea to get her intestines to get the cards with the phone on it instead of, you know, If that's true, that's cool. I'm not even kidding. No, that's awesome. We have a rope. That's very metal. I'm okay with this.  No, that's that's inventive. She's crazy. Not where I expected this to go. I wonder if she has like a real chance of winning this. This is pretty good. Good job. I'll buy it. Yeah, you can do that. That's things you can do. Yeah. One large pepperoni. Oh, no. I'm watching at least. This is why you need to Hoffman. I feel like he'd be like, wow, impressive. You don't get to have the intestines anymore. I was gonna let you play with these, but you can't be trusted. What have you just tried to do the intestine thing? I know I should have made that explicitly against the rules. I'm a total fraud, but my father is real too.  They're talking while there's a headless corpse between them.  She's a nutcase in the best way. Does anyone else feel like there's more humanity in this saw film than there has been in most of them? Yeah, absolutely. Definitely. The fact that he's so involved this time is great. Like he's actually confronting each of the victims. John, we have a visitor. Oh, that's Hoffman. I told him to come.  Yeah, he's here to, I think he got bamboozled too. Damn. Wait, how does he know they're here though? Good question. Oh my God.  Amazing. I'm actually impressed. This is what should have happened like, wait, who's that? Oh, it's the killer. Oh my God. What ammunition do I have in this? Oh my God. I've been waiting for this for like 10 movies. So was he in on it? Or did he get bamboozled? I think he got bamboozled. Right. What is this?  Yeah.  Find out. What are you doing here? I came to get my money back. These people are just crooks. They didn't solve his neck cancer. But Jigsaw's going to not believe him for some reason. I mean, it's a big incidental, right? Yeah. I wouldn't know what to think right now. I'd be like, I assume you're in on it. You didn't manage to call him, did she? That's a good question. Well, it happened way too fast to be that, didn't it? Or did it? Yeah. Oh God. You killed Valentina. We don't kill. Okay. I'm going to give you an opportunity to do something significant. But first I'm going to have to insist. No guns. Wait, why give him the gun if you don't say no gun? Just don't give him a gun.  Oh my God. Oh my God. She looked a little like she enjoyed that unfortunately. Get in there buddy. It's been a while. Hello. I love him. He's so great. You know how long it took to make this? I just one of these days I just wanted to bump into a wall or something or tip over like, oh fuck. You know how hard it is to get work as a puppet in this town?  What are they doing to him?  It's time to play a game. It seems unnecessary because he's here. Yeah.  He's like, let's do it to the tape.   Very carefully and in three minutes. My brain is me.  Yeah.  Oh, three minutes again. Oh my God.  Can I at least get 15? It was ridiculous.     That dude who had the completely compared to the others.   Three minutes.   What tools does he have? Like scalpel and stuff. Imagine he was like, they give him a spoon. You get this plastic spork. It's so funny to me.  So just end up lobotomized. You're like, oh, that's great. Yeah. I think I just shut down after that if I knew what I was doing. No, yeah. I would just openly admit like there's some things I can do for you, Mr. Jigsaw, but this isn't one of them. It was before doing this. Is he going to use this thing to cut out part of his brain? He's going to cut out the skull first, doesn't he? Maybe you should have been a brain surgeon. Jesus, you're good at this. What if he isn't just actually really good? He's just a natural. He did that in like two minutes. That's amazing.  And that's not enough.  It's insane. Oh God. Oh, Jesus. He's going to mash it up. Oh, he's going right in there.  You're like, I'm dead. I'm dead. I accept it. I'm dead. Oh, that's incredible that he just did that. Okay.     Come on. He, no, come on.   Oh my God. That's not fair. That's awful.  That's retarded. Dude, I felt that way for the girl, but this guy chopped out a portion of his brain. He also still had to get the key and then unlock the thing. I'm not even sure that the pain of the death of that is that he like that might be a bit better than having to chop out your own brain. I don't know. These traps need work. Jigsaw, how did you put that on someone and then also do that eye vacuum break fingers trap? You really feel like those two are on the same page. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be great if the guy he has tied up was like, you know, that didn't seem fair. Well, the thing is, I think these would have been fine if both of them, like, if they got to actually like live. They'd be fine if they got to live. Like the fact that they accomplished the task and then the reason why they died is because they have to sit there and wait for some other process to happen that they can't control. It's like, well, they're screwed already. The waiting is like, will they survive? No, they won't because, you know, you got to get some gore in here. You succeeded. And two will get super close already. Yeah. The girl, the other girl was going to succeed and then the evil lady will die if that's how it's going to go. Because they've already set up the whole sympathy angle as well for her with Amanda. So she's safe. I want to play a game. No, no. Stop it. I mean, yeah.  You'd be like, no, I'm good. Oh. Oh. Oh. What's that?  Radiation machines are not to be trifled with. Radiation gun? Interesting. I wonder how much time she can actually be under it before she's just dead anyway. Though, which would you do first? Start with your foot. We'll swing out of the way. Oh, start with the foot so you'll swing out of the way. That's, well, you'd be out of the way anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So what's she talking about? I guess is the angle that you wouldn't necessarily have to break the hand. See, I don't even know if I believe this girl would have the fortitude to do this.   But she's over the the radiation. Oh, no.  You're jigsaw.  That's so funny.  Oh, God. It's just you're tweaking this one, isn't it? Oh, I believe in you. I'd like to see you survive because this movie had someone survive, which was crazy. There you go. Oh, that looked a bit like it was a... That looked flimpy. Yeah, but that's fine. It's fine. I get it. You did it. Once again, that trap was way easier than the brain one. Oh, there he goes. You got the gun? He cheated. He said no guns. Okay, so there's no bullets. There's no bullets in the gun, right? Yeah. Why are you doing this? I'm such a nice person. Where is Hoffman? Where is... Is he going to be there? Is he going to show up at the end, you know? Oh, my God. What's the twist going to be? What's the twist? Because there's always a twist with the music. What's the twist? Yeah, this lady's better have a horrible death, okay? I hope she melts. My guess is that he's going to get put in a trap because he said that breaking the rules will have severe consequences. Oh, see? Yeah, man. You're in league. That's right. He was part of the con, too. So it was the phone call then. He was there in, like, three minutes. And how do you figure out where she was? If she's in a place, then that makes more sense. No, but remember, he said human nature is very predictable or something in one of the movies. He's got it. But this is all part of the plan. I'm not kidding about the whole prequel thing. All I can assume is this is all part of Jigsaw's plan. There's no bullets in that gun, and this is all a test or something. I don't know. I probably wouldn't have written it a bit different. But if Jigsaw has actually subverted and he had to actually do one of his traps and he did it really easily. Make him do the brain surgery on himself. He successfully cures his cancer. Oh, wow.  Even worse than I thought. This really is, like, kind of a strange dynamic, isn't it? Where, like, one of the people in the sword trap is basically the antagonist of the movie. Yeah. And Jigsaw is, like, not the protagonist, well, POV character. He's the antagonist of morality. He's like the anti-hero. I feel like that's still too much. No, no. Yeah. Anti-villain? Can we go with that? Anti-villain, yeah. What did I stop you? Am I just that good?    If ever you have a chance to escape the building that Jigsaw is in, you take it. You don't gloat and look out for stray shotguns on the ceiling or something.   Even if this is early on in the timeline. Yeah.  It's a lot of work.   I didn't know about this whole, like, oh, reverse, small trap. Oh. Wait, this is the place, though. Oh, it's the tumor kid. It's the tumor kid.   Oh my God. Oh, you're serious. Oh, trap. She's so evil. She's palpatine. Okay, this has gotten a bit, like, out of control. Like, surely this isn't Jigsaw's plan. Yeah, no way he's okay with this. This has to be out of his hands at this point.   Why are we evolving the child? I just want to see Jigsaw have to get out of a trap. That's all I want. Dude, I love the idea that Jigsaw's like, you really, you're being evil. We were just having fun before, but you've just taken it too far. Yeah, we were just playing games, but now this isn't a game. This is madness.  Why?  Finally, Jigsaw kills someone with his bare hands. Jigsaw, how are you feeling about all this, bud? This is probably the best acting Tobin Bell's given to the series as well. Oh, absolutely. There's a lot of, like, actual depth to it. You get to show moments of real emotion. I don't know what's going on. Anything could happen right now. All I know is that Jigsaw can't die. Ooh, what? It lies you down. And then you have a nice snap. Why is the child in a sore trap? It's so bad. It's what, they're just going to get drowned in blood. Oh, so he can put it his way so the other one gets relief, I guess. Oh, it's a trap that you can put yourself under more of it in exchange for saving the opposition. Bro, he built this for two people in mind. Who are those two people? Kid, what are you doing? Oh my God, look at that. No, he's taking some of it.  As far as the kid, though, this guy's cool. It's really interesting that they put Jigsaw in a trap, though. They've never done that before. They've not only put him in a trap, they've put him in a trap that explicitly gives him the option to save a child. But also it's a trap that doesn't actually cause any long-term damage to you. Yeah, they ticked all the boxes. Maybe it's chocolate, and they're like, no, I want some of the chocolate. Yeah, this is the Willy Wonka chocolate. It's really runny and kind of red. I appreciate it somewhat. They're trying to be like, see, Jigsaw won't allow the child to experience it. And it's like, OK, I get it. Quite a specific trap that he needs to be in to do that. Yeah, like it's a little contrived, but at least character-wise, it's OK. It's good. What's going to happen? It would be funny if it was just a marathon of two people going back and forth for hours. Why did I put so much blood in there? It's like this enormous tank above the roof. Oh no, he's struggling with this situation. You know, everyone here is incredibly evil. Oh, and he's figuring it out. Why is that meant to be two people on it?  Yeah, David, next to music. Let's do it. Let's go. Let's go. Jigsaw's like, did you turn on the music? Did the music happen? What is going on? Don't close. That's a good thing. They didn't leave the room in the 20s.  What's what's that?  Thank you detective for locating my fellow cancer patient Yes The Hoffer is here. No, Hoffer out of all the men to cheat you picked John Kramer.  I don't understand. Oh, yeah, there's just a mean.  Oh my god. So that means we're gonna be getting more sort movies with I Success of this one, but it looks like Come on, please succeed. I just just keep going until open bell literally dies Movies with him next movie needs to be the Hoffman prequel in me to offer his baby Actually, we could just make a Hoffman sequel. Well, yeah, because what dr. Lawrence did to him He can get out of it because Hoffman's the best character. It sucks that he was only in a mid-credits scene, but that's okay Okay, I'll accept it.  I thought it was just going to be pure gore and torture porn for two hours And it was actually okay. They have a story and I like the story What uh, where does everyone feel this one ranks? What's everyone thinking who's seen the whole set? I feel like it's the reverse I'm not sure I'm doing this between this and six.   I'll just die and like because we never see that in a trap That's never happened before what they did do that kind of like was someone succeeding and getting out We saw that that's kind of neat We saw someone succeeding and then one of the friendlies doing a turn and killing her It's like, oh, we haven't seen that before jigsaw ended up in a trap It's like, okay And they've given a retcon to his history that I think better justifies his attitude than ever before As contradictory as it might be to some of the previous explanations and especially the timelines This is a better motivation. I will say I don't like that They we finally saw jigsaw in a trap, but oh, it was all part of the plan I don't know if it was a part of the plan. I'm confused on that It was the guy told him.  No, no, I'm not the child I'm pretty sure what the chip was supposed to be Oh, it was Amanda that was supposed to be in it Yeah, because she was just standing on the side not doing anything Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, right, right That makes more sense, okay And when things make sense in a saw movie, it's like, wow, so this is a real high up But to be fair, they kind of, as already pointed out They banked on her getting the guts and getting the cards That's silly And getting those weird And knowing that he would pretend not to be in on it and then all the gun stuff And that they would put him in the trap Such that they end up in the room themselves I mean, it's pretty convenient that, yeah, they went into that room and stayed there long enough to get locked in I like the detail about taking the gunpowder out of the bullets You know, accounted for something that we were talking about there, so Yeah, yeah It's funny that the film being conventional in terms of a structure of establishing characters And then having the story play out afterwards makes it unconventional in the Saw series I think this is a very much serious take that is actually relatively like Structurally sound, which is incredible This one felt like it was an actual movie in a way that the other ones don't really feel like Do you think like a lot of the other movies, they just felt like they came up with the ideas for the traps And then just came up with a loose plot later to tie them together and facilitate them This one feels a lot more deliberate So sex maybe kind of lucked out in a way because of the formula sort of Um, I think that the the nature of the traps and the character do like a huge amount of heavy lifting in that And then the idea that this is the person that denied him the cancer stuff is like a really good tie-in Yeah, because that's kind of what I was getting at because it the other films like they're just like Okay, we need to get a bunch of people in traps and we need to have the cop storyline And then they stumbled across one that was actually like well-executed while this one I assume you're saying from the ground up has been built as a story Yeah, the trip to Mexico the cancer the you know the shenanigans with the doctors I really like the first half I think the back half is it really falls off for me, especially with some of the traps Um, I'm a little more forgiving because of how bad soul movies are Yeah, I'm actually really happy they tied it together even though I would have preferred a bunch of different things I guess it has one of my one of the fewest Like instances of me legitimately being interested in what happens next.   I would watch or ever watch But this one is the one that's like like the whole him going back to the lab And finding out it was all a scam and that he's a victim of a scam And I was like, oh like what did did people break in and steal it? Is it a scam and all that's like an element of an interesting story that I was like kind of like Oh, this is like a thing that that I could have some interest in what I would say That has a lot more narrative coherency than the vast majority of the sore films in terms of like a clear sequence That kind of follows and in some ways follows like decently Well, not even like it's oh, well, you know, if I overlook that or if I overlook this There were just like portions of this that are a congruent. They're just actually like logically flow from one to the next In a couple of instances where it's like And it was kind of everything that was predictable, but also not at the same time It's great though because like the bits that we're tying together is like the most Coherent and the bits that's uh, like makes most narrative sense are the bits that really aren't sore at all Like they're just the the setup for what comes later. Yeah, it's like the setup This could be like a really cool story Um, if you have someone who is scammed and they're like, you know what?  I was gonna say I'm taking them with me if you remove the franchise from this film I think it improves like and I don't mean that in a sense that this film is like bad And it's bad because it's in congruent with the rest of franchise It's the I don't need the baggage of all the other bullshit They've told me about jigsaw if you just take it for this film. He's like a serial killer That's apparently operated and he wants to go after people who do horrible things to other people.   I'm just like, holy shit Like there's something to that that I find engaging compared to you're a smoker now you die And of course the fact that they're all like bound together by that same central It's like, you know first movie sets up What what is the motivation for these people specifically and we get to see it play out beforehand So that then when the traps follow afterward, it's like, okay Well, I've got that context to explain why we're here rather than like just jigsaw saying Yeah, you smoke now you're here and going to get your chest crushed That one that we keep complaining about is from the one we think is the best It's just the easy one to point to just man. That was kind of like Left to right give a number out of 10. What do you think the movie is? Pass you can't pass Number out of 10 gun to your head you're in a soul trap right now Four I think it might be like a five or six. I think I might go for six Yeah, I was gonna give it a seven, but I'm dropping it to a because of that ending Six, okay Five I'm with cap on this one broadly speaking started strong ended week I think I'm gonna go either way five or six because I think right now I'm going with a five I could be pushed to six. I could also be pushed to four.  I want anyone listening right now to think like wow, they hate it I'd be like no, no, no, that's that's not bad for sore That's really impressive as a score for sore. Yeah, like this is in the this is in the top three with sore and sore six It's up there fighting for fighting for top spot. I want them to make more I don't want them to make more that'll like this. Oh god. I want Hoffman back. Give me Yeah, I want I want to jigsaw and Hoffman working together on traps and like I want to see Tobin bell in a different project where yes, like with really good material I think he's a great actor friend of mine. I think he's really good at this role He found this to be one of the funniest of all the soulfills. They said what was the funniest part He said uh when jigsaw gets out of surgery and he's all happy and start sketching out how he's gonna murder people Now Yes, true That's pretty funny.  I'm going to map out where they are and bring them some booze and then they're gone And the most funny is that if they do end up making another one It's like well, I guess we continued the arc next year. I'm I'm I'm in I want it I'm sewing me up. Put it in my veins. All right. Well, is there anything else you guys want to say? Risingly enjoyable It was way better than I thought it would be Way better. Yeah, I understand why people are saying this is the best soul movie.  So, you know, that's something. Yeah, it is something and I would say uh drinker You said you saw the first three. I would actually half-heartedly recommend six Just because it would give you an idea like the the protagonist of that film The actor does an excellent job and the traps he has to deal with are very difficult and he makes interesting choices Like it's it's the whole reason why it's hard to say that this is better than six I would half argue that the carousel trap on its own is better than all of six Maybe I'm exaggerate. What an interesting roller coaster of a franchise. Hey Yeah, thanks. I don't want to get off yet everyone for watching. What else can we say at the end of this ride other than I speak for the dead Game over Do you think what you bring me? I'm so glad that you asked Bwham Bwham


The first thing on the agenda, as always, is adjustments to the agenda. In our regular meeting, we did not make it to our executive session to discuss an upcoming real estate transaction. So we will be adding that to the end of the meeting after public comment. We also did not get to public comment in the initial meeting, which means that we will entertain public, the presentation video that we'll play in a minute talks about how we're only supposed to be talking about the budget meeting in public comment, but the public comment at this meeting will also include the topics at the regular meeting, which included the interim board position, the COVID-19 reopening plans, as well as the third item that I close the agenda and can't remember, but I will review that when we get to that point of the meeting. So without further ado, Ray, can you play the video? Greetings and welcome to the Rochester Stock Exchange, Unified District Budget Information Meeting Exploited. Before we get started on the details of the review of the budget, a couple of housekeeping details about the vote. The polls will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. on Tuesday, August 11th in conjunction with the Vermont primary. Rochester residents will vote for Rochester High School Building. Stock Exchange residents will vote at the Stock Exchange Town offices. Absentee ballots can be requested online at the Vermont Secretary of State's webpage or by calling the Rochester and Stock Exchange Town offices. Note that if you requested an absentee ballot for the primary that's been done, automatically get your absentee ballot for the school budget vote. That is a separate election requires a separate request. Our agenda is the same as our first informational meeting. We're going to have a general overview, revise our budget, have some board comments and then we'll make questions and comments from the public. Before we begin, please remember that the board bylaws have rules about limiting public comment. Each resident of our district may offer one comment or question and comments are usually tried to be limited to five minutes. Board bylaws have rules about discussing private and privileged information. And this meeting is to discuss the proposed budget for our district, not building usage nor merger consolidation concerns. Our situation is this. The Rochester Stock Exchange District Board organized a one-time Australian ballot election on June 30th to get a budget in place for the upcoming school year. That budget vote failed by, or that budget failed by a vote of 141 to 110. At the Rochester Stock Bridge Unified District July meeting, the board did formally move to discontinue use of the Rochester High School building that's effective this school year. And finally, again, without a past budget, the district is limited to borrowing only 87% of last year's budget. Why is 87% funding a big deal? Because the board is limited in where budget cuts can be made. Items that cannot be cut include the SU, the special education and our middle school and high school students tuition, the tuition we pay to the schools we send them to, which is 44% of our total budget. The 3% expected pay increases for the union personnel cannot be cut as the 13% health insurance increase cannot be cut. But 87% does mean that $573,000 would be need to be cut from our local programming, the only parts of the budget the board can control. The revised budgets highlights are this. This budget spends $36,612 less than last year's budget. This budget spends $19,175 less than the voted down budget proposed in June, because we've added preliminary operating cost savings from mothballing the high school building to this initial proposal. The resulting 1.1 cent equalized tax rate increase raises the annual taxes on a $200,000 Vermont homestead by $22, if the taxpayer is not subject to Vermont's income sensitivity program. And finally, I wanted to give some historical context to the RSUD budgets as have been proposed over the last three years, the last three budgets that have been the unified district budgets. The history of those budgets are this. Each year the board has presented the taxpayers with a $140,000 to a $235,000 surplus, money that we did not spend in the previous year's budgets. Our expenditures in the two year program, the first year we proposed a unified budget we asked for $4,251,494. Two years later, we are only asking for just a little over $120,000 more, $4,371,950, which is just a 2.8 expenditure increase over that time period. When you look at the tax rate that we paid when we remove the merger incentive numbers, the initial tax rate in the past fiscal 19 budget was $1.68.76. Again, removing the merger incentives, the adjusted budget for fiscal 21 is $1.70.54. This means that our tax rate when we adjust for the merger incentives has only increased 1.1%, from the first RSUD unified budget through this revised proposed budget. The board is really proud of being able to hold that tax rate line, and is really grateful for all the work that the administration did in consolidating costs and finding economies of scale to bring our two schools together after the merger. Thank you. So first I want to apologize. The audio and the narration was a little more broken than I would have liked. I was having a very hard time getting YouTube to be cooperative with me. So instead of getting like a nice fade with a music and a sunset, you sort of got a cutoff. But I really do want to emphasize the point that I was making at the end of that conversation, which is, we entered into this merger to try to have the best educational opportunities for the kids in our two communities and to try to find economies of scale and try to find ways that we could consolidate costs and share costs and do a better job of making sure that we got all the dollars we could in front of the kids. And I think that last slide that points out that our very first budget that we proposed to the budget we're proposing for this year going forward, the three budgets, really when you take out that it was eight cents off the first time, six cents last year and then four cents this budget we're proposing now, really we've gone up 1.1%. We really have found, despite whatever disagreements you may have over the way that we've handled tried to be prudent and cautious around the buildings, I really do think it's important to note that the board's efforts have indeed kept the tax rate pretty flat. 1.1% increase over two years, I think is not something you'd find in a lot of other communities in Vermont, especially communities that are in our geographical and socioeconomic circumstances. Does anyone else on the board have anything they would like to add to the conversation or the administration? The principals have worked really diligently with the board. I've come into this game late, but I believe that this budget supports what we need in order to educate our students this upcoming school year and that certainly the administration's going to be continuing as we get ready to launch into a budget process after a hopefully an approved budget here next week around 2021 to look at how our system of supports can continue to find efficiencies at the local district, but also at the SU level. So those are all things that we're talking about already as we get ready to prepare for the budget process for 21-22. Carl, were you gonna be getting into the discussion we had earlier in July about the Rochester building and not using it for the educational purposes this coming year? Absolutely. And actually, I think the board is very clear that from our point of view, it's not going to be used for regular educational purposes at all. The administration is figuring out how best to, I guess Bonnie and Linda can chime in with their comments, how best to move the resources they need out of that building and get, I mean, a building changes or not. This year, this upcoming year is going to be a unique and odd year just because of the way that COVID and our circumstances have things going. I'm comfortable with the leadership that Jamie's given us and getting information from Bonnie and Linda about how we're going to make that transition and get what we need out of that facility and established into the new facility as best as possible. But I mean, I don't think we, I have not heard a lot of detail about that, but that's not, you know, it's not my job to micromanage. Bonnie, do you have comments? Basically, Carl, we're waiting to see, so the answer would be yes, we are not using that building for any ongoing educational purposes. Of course that for next year is a move point because with the pandemic, we couldn't go to the art room and music room. We're looking at how to bring those programs into the classes in the elementary building. But right now we're sort of needing to know how many kids are going to choose the online option and how many youngsters are going to choose the in-person option. Then we will know exactly what it is we're trying to plan for. Right, I guess the part that I was hemming and hollering around is I know there was some conversation about if there were things that we could store over in that building to make more usable space in the elementary building I know that there's, I'm sure, Rochester's family that want to know how that space is going to be configured and used and I don't think we have answers yet or do we? Well, we definitely have stored some things over there. There are a number of items stored over there. There will be a few more items going over there once the teachers come back because we need to move stuff out of our classrooms to provide a sufficient space for social distancing. Our largest group at Rochester at this point is 15 kiddos and that pretty much takes up a classroom.  Right, okay. And I mean, and that doesn't, well, we'll address that as we get to that because that's certainly a valid use of space. Does anyone else have any questions or comments on the board or in the administration? I'd just like to say that we are doing due diligence about taking care of the building. Jamie gave us a report earlier in our meeting about meeting with some specialists about mockballing the high school building and we are proceeding in a confidential as is appropriate manner in discussions with the town of Rochester Select Board to create a framework about a possible transfer. So just that these actions are ongoing, we'll be talking about that again tonight. That's what the executive session is for and that these, you know, we're very serious about moving forward. Thank you, Ethan. Okay, are we ready to go into public comment? Does anyone else on the board or the administration have any last thoughts? Okay, the way we're going to do this is I'm going to open up the list of everyone that's here, what I see for people on the phone is I see your area code in the last two digits of your phone number. So I'm going to go down that.  You can ask a question. It really needs to be relevant to the concept of the budget or the things that we discussed in the initial meeting which were labor negotiations and coming to an impasse with the professional staff, the process for getting the interim board member on there, developing the interview questions, the fact that the board committed to holding an election to fill that seat concurrently with the presidential election on November 3rd, Lindy correct me if I got that wrong, on November 3rd, but then that will be scheduling those interviews with the board's intention of getting that out of the way and making a decision by their regular September meeting for the interim resident of Stockbridge who will fill that position until said November election. And then we also discussed the COVID-19 task force as well as Jamie's comments around the next steps in terms of mothballing that building and getting that ready to go. So those are the areas that we can have public comment around. So I will start with, and again, everyone is entitled to at least one comment. We are at pretty good time. This meeting was, you know, warned for an hour at least and we're only at 7.23. So we certainly if we get through everyone's questions in a timely fashion, I'm certainly willing to stay here for a while longer and take a second or follow up questions. That said, we can move right into questions with the caller that is 802-STAR-38. Start next one. Stockbridge. Ah, is this you, Keith? Yeah. You having him? Yeah. Hello? Yes, I hear you. You're calling. The board's been very careful about using the phrase educational purposes when discussing the high school building. So my first question, which is a pretty simple one, will that building be used to any purpose whatsoever, whether by the school district or by another entity? Yeah, we just said, for example, we're going to be storing a lot of the spare furniture from the elementary school in it to get it out of the way to make room to have social distancing in classrooms, which means, for example, we have to have a higher insurance policy than we might if it was empty. Okay. But I noticed that the school is going to be used for voting. Why not use the other school? In other words, why not as the phrase that was tossed around more falling the high school building? To me, when you more fall something, you close it down, you keep the minimum, the heat, whatever you need to do on a minimum. Granted, you're going to use it for some storage which that storage is to the benefit of the school district. So that's fine. I just want to know for the record that no other purpose, that building is not going to be used by another entity for anything. The board did not decide whether or not they were going to use or refuse the space for voting. I can say that in general, at least in my mind when we were discussing that piece of it where I was thinking about regular educational uses, what I was thinking about specifically at the time was it gets used for a Suzuki Music Education Camp in the summer that has very little, you're not turning on heat, you're maybe opening some rooms and cleaning some rooms and saying that it wasn't going to be used, period, seemed like it would be, it would be hard to go back and say, well, for this purpose that's being done in the summer where the expenses are small and we're getting an income for it because they're paying us a fee that we might want to keep that opportunity open. I think that, again, as far as voting was going, if that building was turned completely off and it had to be turned on part of it to vote, I'm sure that whatever negotiation was done between the school board and the civil board of authority at Rochester to have that expenses paid for, the cleaning paid for. I know that I don't know how elections have ever been held at Rochester, but back before the Stockbridge Historical Society was renovated when we held elections in Stockbridge, the town of Stockbridge paid like a hundred bucks for the cleaning guy to come clean it afterwards. So there's at least some precedent of if a building is used for a municipal or civil purpose, it's not being put on the school district's tab. But I think that, again, and you can, your personal feelings maybe that I'm using weasel words, what I'm trying to say is that... I didn't say that. You didn't, you didn't. I'm sorry, I shouldn't be editorializing. What I'm trying to get across is the idea that we're trying to say that we will not be using it for schooling purposes while still giving the school board the ability to use it for something like a Suzuki camp or if the civil board of authority said, we'll pay to turn that on because we're concerned about COVID infecting the elementary school and using that for an election on a Tuesday when you might be operating school, something like that. I think it's really not trying to be vague or wiggly. It's trying to say, we're not gonna use it for school and we understand, we don't wanna just turn it on to have like a dance or something silly, but just that we understand some municipal asset that we might need to use for a town for a beneficial purpose that we obviously get money for. Okay, so for the Rochester town. Okay, then just a question. Rochester town would pay the school district. If the Rochester town had turned on the heat of that building, I would assume and we haven't made any agreements yet. So I'm certainly just talking from what I would expect in a reasonable conversation, but we would expect them to pay a fee to use the building just like we expect the Gaysville church to pay a fee to use the Stockbridge cafeteria for their church breakfasts in the past or hunter breakfasts or whatever. Community wants, we have policies and procedures in place to cover doing those. And I would assume that any use of that building by community groups would still fall under the existing or perhaps modified because we'd have to consider if it was a flat fee, I don't remember what our document is but if it was a flat fee, we might have to raise that fee to bring the heat up or something. Okay, is there a public viewing of that document so one can read it? Our policy, sure. Bonnie, do you have that? Can one of you email that to Keith? Should be on the policies and procedures, Keith, but I'm happy if Keith, if you email me, I can send it to you. That's fine, what's your email? Ray, well, you can't. Jay Canarni, K-I-N-N-A-R-N-E-Y at W-R-V-S-U dot org. And I just want to put out there to the public. I am totally open door. So I've met with the community. So please feel free to email and I'm more than happy to get any information folks need. All right, and my final comment is that I know everybody thinks it's just about the money. It's not just about the money. I'm not so upset with the $4.3 million budget that you're putting forward and see the caps that you've been able to put on the tax rates by your efficiencies. That's all great. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is the district right now is responsible for over 60,000 square feet of building. We have a student population of less than 140. I would love to see the high school closed down, take the same money. I don't care if you save the money, put it towards the students, open up new programs for the students, but to just maintain a building that by your own report needs a lot of work. Why not give it to the students? Why keep this ongoing process of maintaining that building? At the student expense. We get that. And that's our ultimate goal. I just don't, I'm feeling like we're not getting there nearly as fast enough as you'd like us to. But thank you for your comment. And I do appreciate your patience. And I have to say, I personally appreciate the fact that you've taken the time to engage with us versus just complaining about us behind your behind the background, Facebook or whatever. Thank you. Okay. The next caller is 802-star-star-4-8. Star-6 to unmute. Hi, can you hear me? We can, thank you. I'm assuming you were just referring to me, but... Yes. I just like to say that I agree with Keith and I think he made a really good point. And it isn't about the money. It's not about the money for me right now. It's about the promises and to shut the building down, get rid of it, whatever, because we just, the money should be going for the kids. And that's it. And that's all I'm gonna say, because I agree with Keith. Thank you, Keith, for bringing that up again. And thank you for doing it in the process that you did evidently. Other people don't. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm sorry, which town are you from? Was that you, Caitlin? Was that Joanne? That was Joanne, as if you've never heard my voice. I know, I know, I know. Julie recognized your voice. Julie was like, that's not Caitlin, that's Joanne. But thank you, we just need to have that on the record so that we know that you were an official speaker. And thank you for... And I'm just curious why in the meetings, when we're doing this, the public names or at least acknowledging that people were on the meetings aren't listed. They don't actually have to have their names, but maybe if there's 20 people that show up, you could say with 20 people responding or in the meeting as well. Because in 20 years, if someone looks back at the meeting... That's an interesting idea, I haven't... Well, I mean, it would be nice for people to know that people are engaging with this and are concerned with what you're doing. Correct. And you're correct in that, at a physical meeting, we always pass around that piece of paper. And we should be passing around the virtual piece of paper. Right, and it doesn't have to be names, but you could say 20 people were there or whatever. Yeah, I have a number listed on the top of the culture, and I can add that. My only thing about adding some people that aren't, but don't talk is that we don't have everyone's names on the numbers, but I can add in, I see 19 showing now. I can add that into the notes. Okay, thank you very much, Jenny. Bye. Thank you, Joanne. The caller at 802-star-star-53-star-6-don-mute. Okay, the caller at 802-star-star-68. Do you have anything you'd like to add to the conversation, star-6-don-mute? Thank you, the caller at 802-star-star-97. Do you have anything you'd like to add to the conversation, star-6-don-mute? Thank you, Beth Dolly. Do you have anything you'd like to add to the conversation? Can you hear me? I'm having trouble. Hi, Carl, it's Beth. I'm curious about the tents. How does that all work? Beth, you're asking about how we're paying for those. Are you asking why are we using them?  That is correct. Okay. Of course. So that we can social distance outside and as all the research is pointing to, that's a much safer way to have interactions. And the idea too is that we can social distance and that would allow students also the opportunity to remove masks appropriately. So does that mean they'll be heated in the winter? No, that does not mean that. What we're looking to do is learn from these first several months when we can be outside, there will be times that instruction still does occur outside in the winter. We're also working with some other organizations to gather winter clothing. But the idea would be that we're preparing for moving inside after the first trimester based on information we've gathered throughout the fall months. It's an ease in transition. I think that it ensures that we have appropriate procedures in place for in-person learning to continue indoors because we know we will be transitioning to that as it becomes colder. I just thought it was a really interesting concept. And of course the tents are up but the buckets of sand aren't holding them up and we're looking at maybe some high wind tonight and hoping they're not flying across the parking lot. I hope not. The tornado did not hit, right? And the tornado warning didn't hit in Stockbridge, I believe, because I see power plants in the house. They're still talking about high winds later on. Are they? If I can just say a few things. I've been working with Bonnie and Linda and Janet and the rest of the staff, office staff at the two campuses. These are steel frame tents, 20 by 20. We have a number of them. And the idea is they have sides and we'll see. We really never know what kind of weather we're gonna get, whether suddenly we're gonna get a ton of snow late October or whether we might get the use out of these tents well into December. That will sort of depend on it. The buckets, we're getting filled and the buckets are over and the... Free, free. You're breaking up, I'm getting nothing. Okay. Yeah, Ethan, maybe try and see if that improves your audio. If you're all frozen. You hear me now? It's a little better, yes. Now, would this be regular curriculum or is this a specialized curriculum? Nope, yeah, I'll jump in on that. We are looking to implement our regular curriculum outside. And so we're definitely consulting on it with outdoor educators across the SU about how do teachers go about setting up appropriate routines and expectations so that we can implement core content both inside and outside. And so teachers are gonna receive professional development in that during in-service to ensure that they have the appropriate expectation set up for students. It's not just about outdoor, it's about core content being delivered outside as well. I actually appreciate that you asked that question, Beth. All right, thank you. Thank you, Beth. Brenda slash Steve Hillier. Brenda, do you have anything you'd like to add to the conversation? Okay, thank you, Brenda.  You seem to shift, are you there? Brenda, go ahead. You're muted. Control D or command D or star six? There you go. Hi, Carl. I don't have anything. No, I'm just joining for the first time. I happen to be off and awake. It's all interesting. And I wondered about, I wondered about the text. You know, I wondered about the tents and the budget. So I'm all new to this again. Thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you for your, Brenda. Okay. Okay, let's go down to Janet Whitaker. Janet, do you have anything you'd like to contribute? No, I'm all set. Thank you. You're welcome. That brings us to the end of the list. So if anyone else has anything they'd like to say, you know, where we can do this for another, we're expecting to do this till eight. So we certainly have another 19 minutes in this. We also have an executive session to get to. So we would also appreciate if... This is Joanne. I have a quick suggestion.  Wouldn't it be cool to maybe use the tents and have a meeting where we all can get together under the tent? That's an interesting idea. Yeah, certainly, especially if we're gonna, you know, as we move forward with community conversations, those would work a lot better. I tend then over a screen like this, where I'm looking at a bunch of, you know, initials and phone icon. Carl, one comment, hopefully I'm not... That's a very good idea, Joanne. Thank you, Ethan. Thank you. Yeah, just Joanne, I don't know exactly the configuration Lindy's planning for in Stockbridge, but I do know that in Rochester, two of these 20 by 20s will be put together. So there's one 40 by 20 space for some bigger class gatherings, but that certainly would be an option for a outdoor meeting for all of us. Thank you. Thank you, Joanne. Does anyone else have any comments they'd like to add? Okay. Hearing none, thank you everybody for attending. Thank you for all your continued support of our school systems. I really hope that we see you all out of the polls on the 11th, to be honest, you know, exercising your democratic responsibility to vote is important, whether you vote for me or against me, I really appreciate we all, us all participating in our democracy together. We will now adjourn for an executive session. If there is any action that comes out of the executive session, which I do not believe there is going to be, that will get added to the recording, but otherwise, Ray, can you give us an executive session meeting group that we can all go to? Yep. Just a minute. Okay. In the meantime, so everyone on the board and obviously Jamie and Tara and our principals look for Ray's executive session, Google Meet Invite for the rest of you this meeting, or I would entertain a motion for this meeting to be adjourned. I guess we actually, technically we cannot adjourn this because we have to still have the executive session. We're going to drop this meeting and go and have our, correct. Thank you everybody.


Dear students, in this topic we shall discuss the various mechanisms which control the motility of elementary canal. The motility of elementary canal involves coordinated contractions of circular and longitudinal smooth muscle layers of the elementary canal. This coordination is coordinated or regulated by a combination of intrinsic mechanisms and extrinsic mechanisms. First we shall discuss in detail the intrinsic mechanisms which are dependent on the intrinsic myogenic properties of the smooth muscles of the gut. As the smooth muscles of the gut are myogenic, they are capable of producing an intrinsic cycle of electrical activity. This leads to muscle contraction without any involvement of external neural stimulation. If these muscles do not receive a message from the central nervous system, then they generate their own electrical activity. The intrinsic cycle occurs due to the rhythmic depolarization and repolarization of the cells of smooth muscles of the digestive tract. This rhythm is known as basic electrical rhythm or BER. BER involves spontaneous slow waves of depolarization. These waves progress slowly along the muscle layer. Some of these slow waves give rise to action potentials due to inward flow of calcium grunt. These calcium grunts lead to contractions of smooth muscle cells. Dear students, the amplitude of slow wave basic electrical rhythm is modulated by local influences as well as chemical stimulation. Local influences include, for example, the stretching of muscle tissue by the luminal food content. When food enters the digestive tract or intestine, it distants the muscles and causes basic electrical rhythm. In the same way, there are multiple substances present in the chymes that produce chemical stimulation which results in generation of basic electrical rhythm. Dear students, now we shall discuss the extrinsic mechanisms. First we shall discuss the extrinsic hormonal mechanisms and then we shall discuss the extrinsic neuronal mechanisms. Chym contains many types of chemicals obtained through the food. Some of these chemical substances in chym act as stimulants which cause the release of gastrointestinal peptide hormone, GIP. GIP in turn modulates the motility of the muscle tissue. Dear students, now we shall discuss the extrinsic neural mechanisms. The gastrointestinal tracts, smooth muscles are diffusely innervated by post-ganglionic neurons of sympathetic and para and autonomic nervous system. These are also innervated by aminurgic and peptidurgic neurons. These innervations of neurons control gastrointestinal tracts motility. First we shall discuss the parasympathetic network of neurons which receive their input via the branches of vagus nerve. These neurons are comprised of cholinergic nerves or neurons. Cholinergic neurons produce acetylcholine which is released from their nerve endings. Acetylcholine mediates excitatory actions. For example, increased motility and increased gastrointestinal secretions. The parasympathetic network of neurons is comprised of adrenergic neurons which release norepinephrine from the nerve endings. Norepinephrine's function is inhibitory. It has inhibitory effect on the motility of stomach and intestine so it inhibits the smooth muscle cells to develop action potentials. We shall discuss the innervations of aminurgic neurons which release from their nerve endings. ATP, 5-HT, that is 5-hydroxy-tiptamine. Dopamine and gamma-aminobutyric acid GABA. The peptidurgic neurons which innervate the lining of smooth muscle of the gastrointestinal tracts release many substances as transmitters. For example, N-cafaleins, vasoactive intestinal polypeptide, substance P, gastrine-releasing peptide, neuro-tencine, cholecystokinein and neuro-peptide Y which is also called pancreatic polypeptide. Release of these host of transmitter substances allows a very fine control over the numerous interacting functions of elementary canal. That is because of these too many substances which control this process.


Independent work time is when students have the opportunity to practice and apply the skills they have learned in whole group instruction. It also allows teachers to monitor and evaluate student understanding of the skills taught in order to adjust instruction to ensure all students master the lesson. Independent practice time is a time for students to work towards mastery of the concepts or skills presented in the whole group lesson. After teaching a unit on the water cycle, have students use the multimodal tools to independently create a collage to illustrate and explain their new learning. Students choose how they want to capture their learning with a variety of tools. They could use the drawing tool to illustrate the process and the label tool to label the different steps of the water cycle or even the video tool to record themselves explaining the process. Capitalizing on strengths and giving them voice and choice in their learning. When teaching about retelling, assign an activity that includes a mini lesson built right into the CSaw Canvas that students can refer back to that reinforces the instructional content and allow students to independently retell the story. Easily meet the needs of all of your students by assigning differentiated activities within CSaw. While thinking about the needs of your students, create differentiated CSaw activities that make learning more accessible for students that need it. Add in visual and audio scaffolds to support these students. When assigning, tap edit students' folders and skills and select groups or individual students to assign the activity to the students that need it. Pro Tip Whenever you create a CSaw activity, just copy and edit to duplicate the activity and add your scaffolds and language supports. CSaw allows teachers to connect with students even if they are not physically present in the classroom space. Use the multimodal tools within CSaw to share links to resources or use the video tool to record a short mini lesson or post a discussion question to the journal and have students respond in the comments. CSaw keeps students connected to their classroom community even when they are not in the classroom. Using the multimodal tools in CSaw to flexibly assign activities that give students repeated and deliberate practice personalizes the learning for students, giving them voice and choice, and providing teachers valuable insight into their learning. Your challenge this week is to incorporate CSaw into one independent practice routine you have already established in your classroom. Share the fun ways you use CSaw on Twitter using the hashtag CSaw me a minute.


Again today Hayden Padden setting the bar, he's followed closely by Alistair McRae, they've got one more super special stage, the famous Curry Bush and then they finish at the Otago Railway Station. At the Otago Classic Rally, not only has Hayden Padden won the rally by some eleven minutes, we've really witnessed something here because he's also won the national round by two and a half seconds. I hope you've enjoyed the coverage and we'll see you back here again next year.