So my beautiful people, I am back with another out on ring video and today guys I'm going to showcase you how you can get this secret dragon incantation known as the Lanciax's Glaive and it is pretty badass. How's it going guys? My name is DPJ and if you enjoyed the video, leaving a like really helps out and if you like what you see and want to see more, be sure to subscribe. Okay, so the Lanciax's Glaive incantation, this is your kind of thing and you like that dragon magic then this one is definitely for you. Okay, so the item actually itself, you have to defeat Lanciax IV and he drops, he actually is like a two part fight. The first part I'll showcase you exactly where you'll find him, you have to take him out down to about, take a third of his health off, he will then disappear and respawn somewhere else. But first the incantation, sweep from above with red lightning glaive, requires 14 faith to use. It's not that bad and it's not the most powerful thing in the game, I'm not going to lie but it is pretty decent. As you can see by that slight clip, I mean my faith isn't the best, I did put a few things on to try and help it but hey, either way there are definitely better things in the game. Okay, so the first spot you actually go to to find this guy is right by here. So you come to the Grand Lift of Dectis, so you need to get the Dectis medallion firstly, search YouTube for a guide guys, there's millions out there. So yeah, from the Grand Lift of Dectis you need to come to this area right here, so you need to come past the Alsus Plateau grace point, past the Gazing Hill grace point and come down here. You'll follow the route I take on screen now from the Grand Lift of Dectis just in case you don't have these grace points to the spot and I'll catch you guys back in a quick second. Okay, so once you are here and he swoops down guys, you need to take that health off him. All means possibly can use a summon if you want to, do what you gotta do guys and you'll notice then he will just fly away. From here guys, he goes up to this area right here. Again not far from the Grand Lift of Dectis, the problem is getting here is a bit of a pain because although it don't look like it here, I mean I couldn't find a way up because these mountains are pretty big or hills or whatever. So I come to this grace point right here guys and made my way from here to the outer wall of the ground. So yeah, if you have any grace around here, it should be fine and then what I did was guys I come through here, come down here, come up, activate this grace which I will say I actually changed it to Knight for him to be here, I come here in daytime and he wasn't here. Try changing it to Knight guys and see how that works for you and then guys just come around here and you should be good. So follow the path I take on screen now from the outer wall of the ground and then come fight to do it and upon killing him guys you will get this incantation and wow it really is as simple as that people. So that's how you get Lanciac's Glaive. I hope you guys enjoyed the video if you do, leaving a like really helps out. If you like what you see and want to see more out of the ring, be sure to subscribe and hopefully I'll be able to cheer for people. I will see you on that next one.


వారాకు ఎంద్చింది. నోన్చి వారందొరన్creap పరేన్చింది . ఆల్పల్ వాకారంది. పోమున్చి పోటరిపోటతులాలల్. వారిలాపోటాంది. you heard any other famous rikki, he was a singer yes sir what was his name? sir rikki martimo ok so this rikki was given this name to your grandparents my parent yes something i am finding it little unique rikki generally i find in the sagarji is this rikki name here my elder brother name is bikki and there was tradition to keep the name of brother which rhyme together so that it is easy to remember for others rikki yes but back then all i was certain that took to go i was surprised i was surprised i didn't took to go sir there were number of names ok tell me something about your scholarship Bangkok sir it was a partnership between IIT Kharagpur and the university there the project was regarding the data analytics project so we had to apply based on our proposal what research we will be doing there and they like my idea and then called me for research so you did your research there yes for 2 months cricket what is your test sir as far as Indian male cricket team goes they are playing a test match between with England 4th test match 4th scored what sir today will be the 4th day of test match yesterday Rohit Sharma scored a century and India have a lead of around 150 runs score 61 also yeah pujara scored 60 runs and then KL Raja scored around 30-40 runs other teams other teams Sri Lanka and South Africa are playing played ODI yesterday no no our women team also is playing today no they are not playing ok have you heard of this CGHS you are working now you only joined the service no yes sir select one service where you are mostly sir currently I am undergoing training sir when did you join last year January 2020 so you would have heard of CGHS yes sir sir it is a health insurance scheme for central government employees central government thank you for correcting me sir central government health services for central government employees and their parent who are dependent on them so we get a lot of pay on a monthly basis around 780 facilities facilities you are also getting during training yes sir we are getting sir what about all India service officers sir I am not aware about the details whether they are eligible or not no idea no idea ok Bengal Bangladesh any similarity, dissimilarities our relations what differences regarding the similarity between Bengal and Bangladesh there are lot of similarities because they were once upon a point of time they were part of a common land and common culture also prevails there language in terms of language there is similarity in terms of food habit, dressing habit celebration of festivals there are lot of similarities also in terms of the social structure if we talk about the status of women ok further our relations with Bangladesh any contentious issues so regarding our relationship with Bangladesh sir we have a very healthy relationship with Bangladesh we are trying to engage in term we have resolved lot of our issues pending issues like the enclave issues or the island dispute issues and we are also trying to engage in terms of connectivity projects with Bangladesh there are some of the issues issues like the Tista water dispute and the border management remains a point of friction there is one big area which is common to boons very blues area Sundarbans have you seen Sundarbans no I haven't sir what it is famous for sir it is famous for man group forest and Royal Bengal Tenghar recently this Coliseum has given recommendations to the government for appointment something unique in that from north east from north east sir I am not aware but the thing was they were three women hypo sir I am not aware sir some Visoram dual drive lady also recommended Pregnant scholar I am reading in newspaper Pregnant is going to give color to some defence sir I haven't heard of it INS some naval INS is going to give some color no sir I am not heard Rikki Rikki you are from Darjeeling yes I am from Darjeeling district what is the current status of the Gorkhal and territorial administration Gorkhal and territorial administration is functioning sir so what is the I mean what is the source of authority of that administration is it recognized by state government central government who has given the authority to the GTA sir firstly it is mentioned in the constitution sir and then there was a tripartite agreement between center government state government and the political parties there and then they came up with the organization Gorkhal territorial administration okay what is the anthropological aspect of the demand for a separate Gorkhal and sir there are cultural difference between the people of Gorkhal and the other part of Bengal the ethnic Bengalis even the language is different the food habits is different and because of geography there are difference in the way they practice their own religion tradition custom so they do not see a cultural relationship with the other part of the Bengal that is one of the reasons for the demand of Gorkhal there is a very famous tiger is located in north Bengal do you know that which one is that so baksa tiger is there so what is the estimated number of tigers there we have to look into it okay you were working in the Indian information service earlier right okay you must have heard that doordarshan has decided to launch an international channel known as DD International do you think it is very necessary considering the negative imaging of India which is happening in the international world so according to me because negative imaging is happening this becomes the reason why we should have a channel like DD International so then we can project our image what our stand about issues is in a much more objective manner so lot of misinformation which is going around can be addressed when we have a channel in other part of the country other part of the world you are also undergoing a probation in ICAS can you tell me what system of accounting the government is following sir government is following cash base system of accounting sir government is following cash basis okay and there are two types of schemes central sector schemes and central is sponsored schemes what is the difference in the funding pattern of both sir in case of central sector scheme it is 100% funded by the center government whereas in case of central is sponsored scheme there are part funding by center state in most of the state there is 60-40% funding but in case of northeast and Himalayan state there is 90 and 10% funding by center in MG there is a concept of social audit what actually happens in a social audit sir in social audit the master register the role are placed before the gram sabha to check the authentication authentication of those master roles the records the payment are not and if there is any grievance any discrepancy the gram sabha can raise that matter so that is the purpose of social audit sir okay is dbt being currently used in MG narrator yes sir it is being used okay you are an instrumentation engineer how do the smart card counters or tele metro work sir i do not know the exact detail you do not know the exact detail have you heard of something called as NFTs non fungible tokens which are quite in news right now like they are like bitcoins have you heard of them no i do not have okay semiconductor manufacturing is perceived as quite difficult is perceived as quite difficult a technology to emulate even china is trying but it has not yet been successful why it is so difficult sir because of the multiple reason one reason is because of the miniaturization sir technology advanced at a very fast phase and every year we find that the circuit is getting smaller and smaller miniaturization it requires a lot of research and cutting edge technology so this is one of the reason sir along with it sir we require an ecosystem and huge funding is required and also there are long gestation period when it comes to fabrication or semiconductor technology so this ecosystem is not available in all the places sir that is one of the reason why some of the countries like Taiwan South Korea does well than the others okay you are from West Bengal there is a district in West Bengal known as Cooch VR they have civilian force of their own called as Narayani Sena have you heard of it so why they have a separate force sir exactly the reason i don't know sir i have to look into it you have to look into it you have mentioned cricket as one of your hobbies yes sir we are seeing in the current series that the most inconsistent player in the Indian team is Ajinkya Rahane so do you think the team it's high time that the team management should have a look at his role in the team sir i think sir after this series sir we should definitely look into his role because what we have seen is in series as big as what we are playing currently there are ups and downs like Pujara was also not playing well but he scored a decent in class matches so we should give him one more game and then after the series end we should go back and reflect whether he deserve a place in team or not okay while the recent olympics were going on there was a lot of discussion about including cricket in olympics so what's the current status of the proposal sir it is being actively considered ICC have also put forward this idea and cricket is the estimated timeline when cricket can be placed in the olympics recently cricket has died he participated in the olympics a lot of Yashpal Sharma yes sir after yes sir ok ok ok ok ok ok ok now correct poor you are in the hostel Rajendra Prasad tell us something about Rajendra Prasad sir he was one of the most prominent freedom fighter of our country and then in the making of constitution he had a prominent role because he was the presiding president of the constitutional assembly and also he was the first speaker and then later on he became the first president of our country as well so in from this Bengal I I am sorry sir I could not sir yes sir I do not know you did not mention people from there you do not know you do not know instrumentation what subject did he study and instrumentation sir subject like semiconductors and then analog communication digital communication and then signals and processing instrumentation devices some of the subject I read recently RDSO you know RDSO what is RDSO railway railway and standard they come up with a device they mention about signaling human accidents taking place device in fact it will be dead it will be plugged in a regular interval so you send signal then you know I do not know I thought you were right about it it was there in the case of military now I have heard of instrumentation in India the public sector undertaking tell me something about that sir what I have read last it has been closed or that was one of the prominent organization there RDSO apart from that I do not know much about you have a private people who are producing instrumentation instruments national instrument texas instrument when is it constructed in India sir they have a center in Hyderabad sir and what will they produce sir microprocessor chipsing also very good as you mentioned funding has 1910 for northeast so they are part of the special category stage so only the definition of a special category because we have one to be included so also under the base what exactly was the idea the special category stage why was it done the idea behind special category state was that all the state are not uniform they do not have the equal ability to mobilize resources no no that is not there is nothing unique about all the state if you see they have international border India and Andhra they don't have you see all the whole northeast all the international border we have international border we have to take care we have the people look on the other side what is happening what development is taking place and they are far away from the being you know so for that reason ok 1910 is in India case apart from they have also non-lapseable pool of resources do you know again non-lapseable sir in general there is a rule of lapse that whatever fund is given in any head that will lapse after 30% of march but the component of fund which is given for northeast region that is in the north lapseable that carries forward to the next year also good now have you seen any report of VDIF any report you must have seen I am sure what report was regarding the Himalayan water crisis sir that report mention about because of the population pressure and the most of the tourist places in the Himalayan region have more over capacity for example Darjeeling had the capacity of 10,000 people but now it is having the capacity it is have around 1.1 lakh people so they are fixing water crisis but there has to be ways of augmenting water resources so they have talked about rejuvenating the springs and how the traditional methods can be used so that water scarcity can be addressed so any other report do they have plan so they have 3 years but I do not know the exact plan also no sir they have 3, 7 and 15 why these 3, 7 and 15 they are real life because we have to have vision in a long term, mid-term and short-term the priorities will change our direction will change and what steps we take some steps which we take for a long term can be different our priorities can be different what is our priorities and actions according to them is there a cultural factor to this or it is one of the case sir I do not think that there is a cultural reason to it there has been history of violence and there is violence because almost every election there is violence in the world yes sir there are cases of violence but I do not see any cultural reason to it sir so the party system the Canada party system culture of clubs sir what my understanding about this is that whenever the elections are contested very heavily and then the chances of this kind of violence increases and so it becomes the responsibility of the police and the administration to take care of this violence because the possibility of violence can be in any place where they are so contested elections can you tell me the scientific significance of this place and what are the kind of infrastructure we have in place sir in terms of the strategy the silicone corridor becomes very important because that is a narrow piece of land which connects northeast part of our country with other part of the country and it is very close to China also recently we saw in case of Dooklam that if that area is choked then our vulnerability security vulnerability can increase regarding what we have done is we have mobilized our force in a way all around that region we have BSF we have army so we have security establishment firstly and also we are trying to explore other corridors also like we are trying to build titulia corridor which will pass through Bangladesh we are also in the process of Kaldan multimodal project so that our roots can be diversified also is there any correlation between cultural anthropology and the political culture in particular place yes sir there is sir if in the culture if in that area the culture promotes lot of women like there is less of patriarchy then we find a culture political culture which reflects that there will be much more women in the parliament state legislature and also if a culture promotes lot of democratic values within the society then we see that root of political democracy strengthening in that region also so political culture I see more of expression of the culture of society only so most of the time when somebody aspiring for civil services they usually ask you how your background in engineering help you now since you have been working for lets say 3 years how has the background of engineering help you sir in a very direct sense I will say that it do not I do not find any relevance in a very direct sense but in a indirect sense yes because engineering in a way orients of mind too for problem solving that every problem has to be broken into miniature parts and then causal effect has to be seen so that mindset that outlook can at times come handy in solving a problem or to break down a problem into modular part and then going about tackling all of them but in a very direct sense I think there is no relevance the new education policy has something called as an academy credit bank interview what is that I do not know sir scholarship from king momcoats university how do you come across this sir I was working in detail lab in IIT Kharagpur because both IIT Kharagpur and king momcoats university has collaboration a proposal came that there are few open position for scholarship one can apply was the major scholarship the lump sum amount it was a lump sum amount sir 40,000 baht was given which was around 80,000 rupees sir 80,000 rupees


o $200,000 We also met with department heads and staff liaisons to discuss the county boards and commissions they support And ideas for potential restructuring This is the first comprehensive review of our county's advisory bodies Many of these bodies were established more than 45 years ago. We have commissions dating back to the 1950s This review has provided an opportunity to consider how best to conduct the work of county commissions more efficiently to preserve and use human and financial resources more productively And to achieve greater public participation in commission and other work of the county Through this review, we had some major findings One that commissions there are some commissions that do not meet due to lack of participation This may be because we're either unable to fill vacancies. There might be a lack of interest or we're unable to meet quorum We also have commission work that overlaps with other groups including other advisory bodies And we have commissions that no longer appear to be needed or effective Through this work, we also identified opportunities for improving the purpose membership and responsibilities of some of our commissions Based on everything we found out through this process We are recommending that the board consider sunsetting the commission shown here Some of these commissions are going to be transitioning to other methods of public engagement and input We do want to thank all current and former members of these commissions for their dedicated service to the residents of the county So i'm going to walk through each of these just briefly The first is the emergency medical care commission. This has a number of responsibilities related to the county's emergency medical services system The commission has been used to advise on pre-hospital medical care But it's duplicative of other groups and has experienced challenges maintaining membership and quorum Due to a lack of participation, there's a need to develop or leverage more Accessible options for community engagement The health services agency has multiple existing venues for this multidisciplinary stakeholder work Including the pre-hospital advisory committee and the health care coalition The commission is not currently required and advisory functions would transition to the existing pre-hospital advisory committee The second one on the list is the environmental health appeals commission This commission was established to handle written appeals from denial suspension or revocation of permits Permits issued under the authority of the county health officer There are rarely or any appeals the commission has not been meeting frequently at all and this work can be handled through The administrative hearing process numerous departments use this process already including environmental health planning the animal shelter and others We also have the hazardous materials advisory commission Which was established to advise the board on the implementation of the county's hazardous materials hazardous waste and underground storage ordinance This discretionary commission has not met for more than two years and is not required And we are recommending that the board consider sunsetting it The fourth commission on the list is the human services commission, which was established more than 30 years ago The commission advises the board on policies priorities and legislative matters It also provides advice and counsel to the human services department on best practices and the operation of department programs and services And lastly, it provides a forum for citizens affected by county human services programs and policies Because nearly all services under the purview of hsd are mandated or regulated by the state and federal government The authority of county government and an associated commission to influence these mandates And related budgets is very limited Staff see no advantage to maintaining a commission structure as a forum For discussions with community members on these issues and they see an advantage With creating a departmental advisory group structure, which provides more flexibility to the department Hsd and existing commission members have created an ad hoc subcommittee to help with the transition In creation of new advisory group bylaws The fifth commission is a substance use disorder commission, which has a broad range of powers and duties related to county substance use disorder services Many of these responsibilities now overlap with the mental health advisory board Due to the continuum of services under behavioral health So this is another commission that we're recommending sunset The last one on the list is the syringe services program advisory commission This is one of our newest commissions. It was established in 2019 and has a variety of powers and duties staff report that The commission's duties have been accomplished in frameworks for continued coordination Policy review and federal and state legislative review have been established The health services agency would like to shift to more broad community community involvement by leveraging coalitions led by non-profits and other grassroots organizations in lieu of keeping the commission So they attached ordinance with this board item. Um, if the board were to approve the ordinance in concept Would allow for all commissions listed here to sunset on march 31st of 2024 This would give departments time to complete in existing work and provide for the transitions that were mentioned Um, I do want to mention that we also identified various commissions needing some changes to composition purpose or meeting frequency Um, they are listed here. Um First the commission on the environment There's an interest in clarifying the responsibilities of this commission There's currently some overlap with the water advisory commission and the fish and wildlife advisory commission So staff are going to be working on better clarifying and defining These three commissions responsibilities and also Connecting the commission on the environment potentially more strongly to our climate action and adaptation plan The emergency management council, um, is also listed here OR 3 our office of response recovering resilience Is proposing changes to their membership to reduce the county staff membership and to remove the hospitals They're hoping that the commission would focus more on preparedness and then the county staff Who are on the county emergency management team would be more focused through those efforts of emergency management and response There is another ordinance attached to this item that would make these membership changes Um third on the list fire department advisory commission Um was found to be underutilized and in effective based on the recent findings of a 2023 report, um on master planning It is widely recognized that the commission needs to change and staff are going to be working on what that looks like in return with a recommendation historic resources commission also has faced some challenges with quorum and engagement but provides some critical, um services in terms of Providing access to more streamlined CEQA processes and historic preservation grant funding They are looking at changing the meeting frequency of that commission Which would help with um engagement and our office supports that Housing advisory commission um is also being looked at in terms of the The composition of members on that commission There's historically been a disproportionate number of people in the real estate industry on that commission And staff are going to be working on changes that would help engage a broader cross-section of stakeholders Particularly those that are listed in county code Such as senior citizens students farm workers low-income families Ethnic minorities educators and other groups that might represent their interests or needs And then lastly I want to point out that um staff are working with the circle on anti racism economic and social justice Discuss to discuss the next phase of their work Um originally when this cares j came to the board There was direction to create a formal commission related to the work that this group has been engaged with We've been talking with cares j about what that might that group might evolve into an alignment with the santa cruz county like me effort How their work contributes to the broader equity work of the county And how um we're going to be holding the county accountable to the equity statement that was adopted by the board So we'll we'll be continuing those conversations and we'll plan to come back to the board with further updates and recommendations in our honor before august 27 So our recommendations this morning um are to accept in the file the report that's before you we also have The ordinance repealing the six commissions that I mentioned Your board would be approving those in concept today And then we have a second ordinance amending Chapter 2.106 of the county code related to those emergency management council membership changes The ordinances would come back for a second reading and final adoption in february And then we would return in august with additional updates And with that we're happy to answer any questions and department and I staff and I um are here to answer those Thank you very much I'll bring it to the board to see if there's any questions on this item Um, yes, mr. Chair Your honor This is another opportunity for all of us to really appreciate everybody who serves on these commissions and committees Put a lot of time and effort into it and it It does take a lot of our Our staff time, uh, and I think it's a good move for consolidation and efficiency and governing Excuse me, and I appreciate the work. Uh, appreciate the work of the county staff And the commissioners on the Santa Cruz like me That the project which is meant to ensure the county's advisory committees and commissions are more representative of our community Um, I can support the recommended actions regarding the sunsetting of the commissions that are identified here Because the process really is divide designed for more efficiency and I think Reality of who is attending and what the needs are for our county But I do think it's important that we note that our syringe services program Is so very much a work in progress And may soon require Some additional direction and resources to this board And as I mentioned earlier in the day, um, our next report from them is in March and I'd like to see that And and really have a better sense of what what is happening there The ssp advisory commission, uh, provided some valuable insight Uh, and recommendations to the board and in their absence, I expect our staff Will come to the board more regularly To discuss those policies, but I look forward to our next report Um, coming about that commission in March. Uh, so appreciate that So rather coming Thank you chair, um, I have had a chance to check in with the members of a number of these commissions and um on the whole of folks were in agreement with The disbandment of them with one exception and we heard today from two members of the uh emergency management, um Sorry emergency medical care commission who called in Celia berry and uh, dr. Mark Yellen Celia, of course is the former county emergency medical services administrator and dr. Yellen as He was trying to say it was a bit of a choppy connection, but has worked in our Dominican's er for the last 37 years um, and They both have noted how useful this commission is for sharing information um At least within their community And making operational improvements. So, uh, you know, I Agree that there could certainly be improvements to the commission, but I'm not ready to disband it today I'm also want to bring up something that they mentioned which was, um, you know challenges maintaining membership and quorum were cited as one reason for doing away with the commission um And what I heard back from the members is that they were be reminded of the meetings a couple days before and then If they didn't pretty much immediately respond, they'd be sent a second noticing Uh, the meeting was canceled for lack of a quorum. I think that can be particularly challenging When you're a doctor dealing with a lot of demands, uh, maybe to Be sure to respond to a communication on on that quick timeline. So it's possible that um, you know, we just need to notify Folks consistently for all these commissions Uh, at least a week ahead of time and provide, you know, at least a few days for people to reply before actually canceling a meeting um, so I would recommend that We hear any suggestions Uh, or how to improve the emergency medical services Uh, I'm sorry emergency medical care commission. Uh, when we get a report back on the other commissions, uh in august Thank you supervisor conig, um supervisor friend. Do you have any comments on this item? Uh, yes, thank you chair. I'm in agreement with supervisor conig's Points, which is to say that I think that there it's clear that there's reforms needed across the board, which is why We brought this up a few years ago is something that the board should consider a more macro consideration I mean, when you don't look at things for 40 years, obviously, uh There is a need for change generally speaking on some but not all on the mcc I think that uh, there's understanding and agreement within The members that there needs to be some modifications. I think the question is whether or not Uh, I mean the presentation stated that the the functions would be transferred over to functionally to other Uh, standing committees. Um, they didn't seem as though there was uh agreement from emcc members that those functions really did translate that way And so I thought it just made sense If we're going to make that kind of statement that uh, we can actually back that information up It seems to make sense to to give some additional time to have additional input from them Especially considering they're willing it seems that there's clear that there's an understanding that that it may be reformed Whether it remains as a commission Transcendent departmental advisory group, etc. I think a little bit of additional time will have it I did also speak to my other commissioners on some of these other commissions that are proposed for uh, major consolidation or sunset And uh, there seemed to be um, a real understanding of why it was moving that way and In appreciation for the fact that There would still be key elements of it and including key members still having a voice of directly advising Uh, county staff and certain concepts. So I appreciate the fact that those commissions felt engaged. Thank you, mr. Chair Thank you supervisor friend supervisor Hernandez So I have um two questions a general question and the question I had the opportunity to ask you already as well But would the appointed commissioners be asked if they would like to participate on the newly formed committees or existing committees that are going to open up and the The question I asked was if the human services commission would also maintain the appointed members Uh into the advisory committee Yeah, I might have um randy morris director of human services come up But I I do believe there's an interest in in Having those who currently serve on a commission Transition into the advisory group or whatever the other form of engagement that takes place But I'll let randy speak to that. Um, that's correct. Uh, we had a mission meeting where this was discussed Um, and if we switched to a departmental advisory group should your board approve this Or create an ad cop committee to work together on those bylaws Um, there was some concern about what what would happen with a successor board or a successor director Because right now the board and the director are really interested in being engaged with a new group So we actually proposed building into the bylaws of the advisory group that board members still get to have a role In sort of recommending who participates So the default is every current commissioner who would like to maintain Involvement would be the beginning departmental advisory group And we would hope we would just transition seamlessly and just remove some things like We haven't met quorum because some people couldn't make it in person and under brown act you can't have A quorum for people participating virtually. We could have hybrid meetings. We'd have some capacity But the default would be to have the exact same group And then we could allow it to grow from there as um as we work through The the transition if approved Does that answer your question? Yes Would we continue to appoint them afterwards or would we a one time deal? I believe if I've read the departmental advisory group Structure here in the county is the technical issue is the department director actually doesn't appoint through a formal process For you but I had recommended the commission and it would be up to your board because we have to bring The bylaws back to you is that each board district still maintains a role in recommending Two or whatever we want it we can work it through together and then that live in the bylaws So I think technically it's not an appointment But I think it's a recommendation and then we kind of Set up the new advisory group through that agreement. So it's a little less formal, but it would be in the bylaws No further questions Okay, um, I have some I have a few questions and comments and I think I share some Concerns that were brought up by some of the other board members. Um The first question I have is I'm just Curious it was mentioned that there's coordination with commission staff But I'm wondering what level of outreach there was with commissioners because it sounded like there were some commissioners Who even came and spoke today who felt kind of blindsided by this item coming forward right now? And so I'm just wondering Was this brought to commissions for conversations kind of prior to these recommendations? Yeah, we started I mean we started in the fall talking with the departments about this and our intention was for them to take this discussion to the commissions and I believe The commissions were um, this was placed on an agenda and there were conversations that were held With these commissions that relate to the health and human services departments Okay, um In the emergency medical care commission item you mentioned that some of these um Some of their role Is duplicative in other groups and was wondering what other groups those are For which commissions for the emergency medical care commission It didn't it didn't actually have the other groups in the agenda item. It just said that Um, some of their work is duplicative other groups I believe there are two that have been identified for certain and um, you know The director of health services if there are others that i'm missing. Um, she might be able to speak to those But the pre-hospital advisory committee was one and then the health care coalition Was a second one where similar issues were being discussed. We also have um our emergency management where The emergency services administrator it sits on both and so there's a connection there as well Yeah, thank you board for the record Monica Morales health services agency director Um, hello, Jen Herrera assistant director for HSA Um, we actually have been looking at this very critically to ensure that we can actually have Functional active with community participation in our committees And so the recommendations that you see in front of you will not taken lightly Um, we took different approaches. We did one on ones with some other members We also um, we're trying to address them in our actual commission meetings Because some of them also didn't have quorum again the issue that we're experiencing Um, we did a lot of trying to do a lot of one-on-ones with them I would highlight that specifically for the emcc There is duplication in terms of the work that we're trying to do As nick will mention we have existing committees where some of these topics are Included or discussed and i'll let Jen now talk a little bit more about some of those details and opportunities that we're seeing Our intent is not to Silent individuals or look just for efficiencies our intent is to make sure That these commissions for example ssp would always have been working to try to include Those that were represented in the meetings But the brown eye makes it very difficult You can't just get up and talk right and as a member of a community experiencing ssp needs It the flexibility that the brown act the lack of flexibility that the brown act offers It has really been an issue for the commission members and Um for our community members, but jen maybe you can give a little more detail Yes, so the pre hospital advisory committee, which is uh ran by our emergency medical Um services program ems, uh, which is the program that runs emcc currently There that is where we see the most overlap We also see some overlap participants in the goal of the pre hospital advisory committee is to look at That pre hospital also known as our emergency services System before people get into the hospital emergency room system So a lot of we do believe that there are a lot of the activities kind of lying there In addition to that we also have our healthcare coalition that has a wide variety of partners Um Apart from just emergency services so we can look at that entire system of care from Pre hospital to hospital admission to discharge Um, and we do emergency planning with that group as well Thank you Um moving on with the environmental health appeals commission. I'm just wondering If you can explain a little bit more about the administrative Caring process that could be used in lieu of the commission itself Yeah, this is a process that's set up in county code. Um, we have hearing officers that are on contract through our office that hears appeals based on different things different lines of business in our county the hearing officer will will have a hearing where it's hearing from both sides related to a particular issue and then reaches the decision and then Based on that decision The person who has appealed has a right to either accept that or if they disagree they can Appeal further to the superior court So there there's a number of um departments like I mentioned that already use the administrative hearing process It's been around for for a while now and planning animal shelter Environmental health and I believe some others are actively using it Thanks for that clarification. Um, with the hazardous materials advisor commission I'm just wondering if any of those roles and responsibilities can be transferred to the integrated waste management uh task force because we already talk about waste and You know our ability to either process waste here in the county But this does sound like a commission where that information or that those conversations can move to the integrated waste management task force And so I think that could be a one way of consolidating um What's discussed in that commission with what we discussed at the integrated waste management task force? I could definitely take that suggestion to that other task force Um as it relates to the human services commission, this is probably the one that I'm the most um concerned with I mean When looking at the staff report, you know the um the commission, you know was really established to Discuss and provide recommendations on policies that affect socioeconomic needs of low-income disabled Disadvantage and at-risk people and I given the amount of work that we're trying to do around equity these days It seems like That's a commission that we would want to kind of see how it's Been less effective currently and how can we make it more effective because one concern I have is that If we could have an advisory body model You know do we have public meetings are there minutes being taken? You know, those are the some of the concerns I have currently so I think that my comfort would be if that cannot if if the Substitute for what this commission would be can be outlined and explained before we take action to eliminate it I'd be more comfortable with moving forward with that But given that we don't know what this next model is going to be the notion that it's going to be dissolved At the end of march has me concerned since we don't know You know what the alternative will be. Yeah, it's my understanding a departmental advisory group can still follow similar Practices as a commission in terms of having a meeting open to the public Keeping agendas and minutes All of that. I think one of the advantages is that if should they not have all the members show up They can still hold the meeting they can also meet in different venues in different ways than You know a commission might have to adhere to so it provides a little bit more flexibility But but they can they can adhere and provide the same level of public transparency as a commission I think would be good for us to consider then having that Be outlined for us and and you know make a decision on what that next group would be rather than saying that we're gonna dissolve the group today Personally that's just those are just my feelings about that commission in particular um As it relates to substance use disorder I think it'd be great to just have some you know something come back that talks about how this is Getting folded under the mental health advisory board. So we know where those responsibilities are going And then with the serene services program, I mean that's that's one if we if we were to keep The human services commission That's something that I could see get transferred there since it deals with How how no one can people and people who are Experiencing substance abuse potentially, you know, how they're getting access to some engines So that's another thing that you know, maybe could be taken into consideration in terms of how it's consolidated um I think the commission on the environment the staff recommendation sound finding me on that um And There's also the fire department advisory commission. I think it's a pretty sensitive topic We met with like beaten from general services and he's he and the fire chief are willing to come up to bondy doing to discuss the disillusion of that But I think you know just given the impacts of fires in our community trying to figure out how we can have something that's effective for making recommendations to us I think is the really important thing as we're moving into seeing You know more intense fires in our community Um with the historic resources commission I'm just wondering if there's indigenous representation because it might be As we're thinking about how to restructure that Commission having a seat for someone who's from a local tribe Could be a good way of increasing representation on that commission And then lastly with the housing advisory commission, I think it might be worth us exploring Having it be an affordable housing commission. I mean we Building market rate housing here is not a problem. I mean, we're the most expensive county in the nation when it comes to rental prices and we have some of the most expensive Um real estate markets in the entire country if not the entire world And you know really having a commission to the point that was brought up, you know in terms of increasing representation It would make sense for us to have a commission that's not just focused on all housing But really is focusing on the housing that we need for our workers for low-income people Keeping people from you know, ending up losing their homes Um versus just housing in general, which then what we found is that we have a board that's overwhelmingly represented by Um kind of like real estate interest So those are just my suggestions and recommendations And um if there's no other questions I can open up for public comment But I want to look to see if there's any Further comments or questions from board members Just to make brief Mr. Sheriff, that's okay I think that one of the reasons we were looking into this was also because it's it can be difficult to maintain membership. I mean we Uh, if I'm correct on this, I think I make 62 appointments to boards and commissions not just with the county But some of the other Ancillary boards and commissions we serve on that have their own advisory and it's it's a challenge to maintain And if we sometimes become too prescriptive on trying to ensure that every interest is represented we will Be unsuccessful so I think that we need to find a balance between representation and also the practicality of of these appointments and and so, uh, I just wanted to flag that as we move forward to Look at the continued As we continue to look at some of these commissions and some of the recommendations you had made. I was just thinking about how Fielding a board Would work from a practicality standpoint and that is another element that I think we need to to keep in mind Thank you. Appreciate those comments supervisor friend supervisor. Hernandez Yeah, I just kind of want to Explain why my two questions about keeping the appointed commissions, you know, because I've heard of advisory committees that have little or one person from south county And you know, I had a google who that person was So my concern is equity That, you know, Justin stated and there's little assurance that south county will be represented in advisory committees So I just want to make sure that there is The level of equity and that south county is represented or an assurance, right because that's what concerns me I think the um, you know, the Santa Cruz like me project was really a good Uh avenue for us to make sure of that wherever it may be in the county, uh, which whichever district and I I think we're accomplishing some of that with what we have in order is how is that working with The system we have right now Yeah, and to answer supervisor hand and as this question, you know, I think we share your interest in maintaining Meeting our equity goals and maintaining an increasing representation From those groups that are currently underrepresented. That's what a Santa Cruz county like me has been all about was to diversify our groups and to bring more voices to um county commissions and and local government to be able to Provide your board with advice on these critical issues. So um, I think, you know, we share that and that would be a goal of ours For those advisory groups I mean that'd be an overall policy sort of speak of our target that we want to meet and so I think Uh, what we have done in that regard. I think it's the best way to address it It applies to every commission every committee, whatever, you know Santa Cruz like me Supervisor Kodak, uh, thank you chariotis uh In defense of the housing advisory commission, uh, just wanted to point out They certainly do address affordable housing issues. In fact, the sustainability update that we approved earlier today was in many ways spurred on by the housing advisory commission and they were instrumental in The initiation of our county, uh, for wall housing density bonus So I mean, they absolutely have this interest in mind. And of course, uh, You're welcome to point over you like to the housing advisory commission If you feel that uh current folks are are not pro affordable housing enough For example, one of my appointees is simply simon who manages new way homes With you know, they put us a goal of building affordable housing. So um, I just Really value everything that the the housing advisory commission has done for us Again, I know way no way want to speak ill of the work that has been done I think what I'm trying to highlight is that, you know, the biggest crisis that we're facing in this community is affordable housing And having a commission that could be Very much focused on affordable housing and as was raised in the staff report, you know, having a variety of representation that would help make it a more actual commission would be a benefit and so Uh, that was the the main reason why I was suggesting that You know, rather than just being a broad housing advisory commission having something that's really targeting affordable housing and those kinds of Policies would be a great benefit to the community just given how expensive it is here so, um With that though, I think I um If there's no other comments at this time, I'm going to open it up for public comment Um, I know we have a couple other items on the agenda. So I'm going to open up to the public to um, I have to make comments on um Item number 10 on our agenda And you'll be given two minutes and we'll start with people members of the public who are here present At the meeting and then we'll move on to those who are joining us online. So you can speak Please step forward Good afternoon. David Schwartz candidate district two supervisor um without Saying whether I'm for against this I would like to recommend a few little things All these commissions should have A public mandate basically I think the public needs to say whether they want these commissions or not number one number two We should have clear Measurable objective criteria for each one of these commissions so that we have a way to grade them, you know, whether we're where we can make these decisions more often um But this is a great thing because We need to carry this a little farther down the line Everything that the county does every department every service that we provide should have these clear Measurable objectives and we should be reviewing them on a periodic basis and maybe we are doing that but um You know, if the public's not happy about something that's going on That should make us want to look at these things a little more clearly and see if there's something that we need to do um These periodic reviews are very very helpful at this issue about whether we should have more More people making the decisions or not is clear. I mean we we do want more people involved If you have a problem getting enough people to have a quorum, maybe you should consider reducing the size of those boards I don't know what the board size is right now, but uh in in my work with nonprofits We find a lot of times that we have the same problem and by reducing the board number to say 11 Where you only need five people show up six people show up that's going to be better than a board of 15 So there's there's a number of things that we can do to get people to help out But definitely we need their help and we need to appreciate them for that And so my my big thank you to the whole community that helps with this and to you folks as well. Thank you very much Thank you Thank you. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon. Um I'm concerned about the use of corporate terms such as stakeholder to holders and administration I'm ronda. I'm one of the people of california I took the opportunity to look at these gold fringe flags and go outside and look at the non gold fringe flag And I feel like a frog being boiled in water And watching my country and my county and my state be destroyed Zach you said um a republic requires representation and then you made it sound like it was a hassle And there is a difference between democracy And a republic and in a democracy two wolves and a sheep decide what's for dinner And the two wolves vote to eat the sheep and the sheep is the dinner in a republic Two wolves have one vote one sheep has one vote. So there's a stalemate and the sheep doesn't get eaten for dinner Um, I'm happy to sit on these commissions I spent a lot of year coming to these meetings going to the city council educating myself I'm retired somewhat and I have time to do it I'm looking at the time that these commission meetings are being held Which people who work and have two or three jobs to pay the rent here can't attend So that's probably one of the pressures and the problems I'm very concerned about things being routed to this cares j group because i'm very concerned about what their Real goals are and so i'm not in favor of that And um madame you keep referring to some people and some you know Means to bring complaints to you, but you're not giving me names I want specific names and those of us who are negatively impacted in the family court system Know that the appeals process is fraud There's a lot of crime that's happening at all levels and these fake agencies that are there to hear appeals are really just bearing a lot of fraud So a lot of these issues are concerning me I do believe we need to educate the public to be able to participate more in our republic Thank you for your comments Thank you. Becky steinbrunner I attend many of these commissions that are being discussed here today And I want to first of all point out that their composition are large is largely Directed by you the supervisors you decide who you appoint to these commissions You have the opportunity to change the composition of them So I encourage you to do that and many people would probably like to do that If you would bring that up regularly in your town hall meetings But many of you don't have those anymore So please start having town hall meetings and talk about these commissions The purpose of them is to be a liaison Between you and the public and to bring information and make Mekromendations to you based on what they're hearing out there that you may not be having access to The public needs to have this access because we don't have it By coming here things are a done deal by the time they get here But when we go to the commissions, we have the opportunity to make a real change on things that we care about I think a good example of that is the hazardous materials count commission That was the only way I was able to get the county's ear that eventually went to the district attorney's office when Swenson pulled out An underground storage tank full of toxic material and hauled it out in the night Nobody was going to do anything, but I went to that commission and the da stepped in So we need those sorts of things as we need the environmental appeals Board that is directed at septic Problems and I think that it should be enforced. It looks like it has professionals on there And is um should would save money instead of the county hiring a contractor to to handle these administrative appeals I really miss dean lundholm with affordable thank you miss timeburner We are actually behind schedule right now and And I really appreciate it and really appreciate i'm Thank you. We really appreciate your engagement And if you thank you appreciate that are there any members of the public online? We'd like to comment on this item. We have one more in person who'd like to comment on this item. Please step forward I just happened to stumble into this meeting right now. I just um, I came down here to Find out what was going on in department 10 and um, you know from what I've um been looking at it It looks like a bunch of fictitious lawsuits that are happening and litigations that don't even That that are being done on in behalf of people that don't exist And i'm curious to know what's going on in department 10 um Because I find that they're suing they're suing people that don't exist that are either incarcerated or You know Or deceased mixing their names around and having litigations that People that don't even exist And that's kind of a problem i've been having and then also with this syrup I hate to interrupt you but we're the item that we're talking about right now is um An item that is uh on county commissions and committees and Yeah, I'm sure that is you know I just I happened to come in here and I wanted to bring that to somebody's attention in case anybody You know cares to look into it. Okay. No, thank you. Thank you Are there any members of the public online who would like to address us on this item? Yes, sure Yellen family your microphone is available. However, I do believe the speaker may have already spoken Yellen family is your microphone available. Please use star 6 to mute. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Okay, sorry. I'll make this very quick. Thank you for your time and consideration a couple of comments Firstly the the consideration of ruling the emcc into the pre-hospital pac Committee In my opinion, I've served on the pac for for many many years It is a committee that number one reports to the ems medical director Not to the board of supervisors the emcc reports to the board of supervisors The pac pre-hospital advisory committee deals with nuts and bolts and details How much of one drug to use which drugs to use which equipment to use who goes first? Our meetings are full with dealing with policies and procedures the emcc takes a much bigger broader view of the bigger picture and It is not really substituted by any other committee That we currently have ems management as I said earlier Is an amalgamation collaboration of highly technical highly specialized detail oriented groups specialties with high consequence of their activities fire law ambulance, etc The intertwining of that to make the system work and work well Is not replicated in you know our public health department It is not part of human health and services all those great committees do other work But this really is a standalone item and the emcc has functioned very well Over the past many years the issue of quorum I would suggest has to do more of the after effects of co vid And how that change our meeting profile as well as there are administrative aspects as the um Supervisory conic recommended that could better make the response Work and there's also the opportunity for hybrid meetings So I just wanted to put that on the table for you folks and thank you for your time and consideration Thank you Michael your microphone is now available Thank you. Um, this is Michael Lewis gene brockelbank is with me here as well on this computer And she will have her two minutes to Present after mine. So please keep us connected at the end of my remarks Um, I support the changes that the county commission is proposing With the exception of the hazardous material advisory commission Um, I publish Santa Cruz online and I spend a lot of my time every week dealing with the uh commission staff or county staff That support these commissions from august of 2022 My efforts to publish information about the hazardous advisory hazardous materials advisory commission Has been stymied by this commission's lack of online notice of meetings And ongoing status due to numerous changes in the environmental health department staff support for this commission Over the past three years. I've corresponded and spoken with 11 different county staff members about this ongoing problem To date nothing has changed in my experience the hazardous materials advisory commission is a vital and potentially effective advisory body That has languished due to lack of county interest and support Not for any problems with the commission's organization and purpose nor any Problems having a quorum or public participation. I ask you to please keep the hazardous materials advisory commission intact And instead arrange for effective county staff support for this very important advisory body Thank you very much. Please reset our time for gene brockelbank's presentation Thank you Thank you. Your time has been reset to two minutes. You can begin when you're ready Hi, I am a member of a county commission that is not on your list today Uh and have been for years So I am aware of how commissions can or cannot provide a service to your board and the public Um, our commission was also formed like the hazardous materials commission Many years ago due to a specific ordinance ours was 1982 Initially, I wrote to all of you supervisors individually supporting the elimination of five of the six on today's list However, after hearing comments both from supervisor konig and from Some members of that commission I'm going to include the medical Uh emergency medical care commission on my request with regard to the hazardous materials commission. I read their biennial report from 2022 2023 And you can tell by that report that this commission remains ready to do its job It just needed the staff support to do that So i'm asking you to either please amend this motion today to eliminate EMC and the hazardous materials commission From the list or continue this item until Next month or another month. I think there's too much controversy And I think that your board has had a chance to listen to commissioners who are engaged in this not Even though I appreciate everything that nicole and her staff has done we are commissioners and We didn't have a chance to talk with you. So thank you for considering my request Thank you Call in user one your microphone is now available Carolyn Garrett I want to eliminate corporations That continue to pollute the environment and create all these hazardous materials Corporations privatize the profit and they socialize the cost all of these practically these commissions that you've listed for sunsetting have to do with Pollution and pharmaceutical pollution And let's see all of them practically um environmental health And something ironic a friend of mine was on the environmental health commission that met in your county building and the radiation from the wi-fi and um all those cell things on the roof and the cell tower Made her feel quite ill and she had to Quit how strange environmental health It seems to me like eliminating these commissions Excludes or further limits public participation and public comment. It seems very abrupt and sudden Why? I wonder if some commissions had the exposés of county policies That they were trying to censor I don't know. Um, I think this also points out how we need single payer health care or Medicare for all And in terms of the mental health advisory commission, I went to some of their meetings about Friend of mine who's a senior and the abuse she suffered by this county would force injections and Being hauled off to the hospital and they did nothing Thank you for your comments. We have no further speakers chair. Okay. I'll bring it back to the board for um Further discussion and action and I just wanted to see if um, if staff had any responses on some of the questions that were raised Um, I do know uh, mr. Morris had some additional information related to the human services commission. So Yeah, I just was tracking some of the public comments and board comments So I just wanted to if this helps you deliberate wanted to respond to some of those Um, so first the departmental advisory group does require their minutes taken So I just want to make sure that would be exchanged. So minutes would still be taken Um For your board's full awareness if you didn't know this was an exercise I didn't quite know the scope So we already have three existing commissions that are federally state mandated that will continue that will be brannock governed That's the federal governance mandate for the homeless Committee that supervisor konegan Cummings are on and that's the housing front of partnership the continuum care We have a state mandate for the in-home supportive services to have a public Commission is called the public authority advisory commission And we have a federal mandate to have the workforce Investment the workforce development board have a commission. So those three commissions will still exist um, we also have Approximately 30 forums that are recurring or division directors and program managers and analysts are meeting regularly with the community predominantly community-based organizations Um, but also with community where there's a lot of dialogue Um, I did want to say just as a staff centric I admit perspective as somebody who's been facilitating the human services commission for my god here It is correct that this has clearly been in the covet context It's been a sort of hard to compare what will life be like after covet But what I do find is the many many meetings I'm in with the community the brown act and the commission really precludes Conversation with the public Because there's a public comment period where the public can show up. They rarely do but when they do I can't comment on it and engage in a dialogue if it's not an agendized issue One of the reasons I saw benefit making this switch is then we could have more of an open conversation with who comes up We don't have to if we have something just happened the day before we can as a kind of advisory group Kind of sit and discuss and make a change and should the public be engaged We can have conversation and not be hip prohibited under the brown act Um, I also wanted to respond to supervisor Hernandez's comment. Um, I've come here and I've learned really quickly and I got here There's inequity with south county and north county. The commission has each board member appoint a commissioner I want to repeat my comments that I recommended that the bylaws that get replace them would have each board member to make Sure of equitable distribution of the participants in that new structure. So I don't see that as a change We could build that in um to the by wise and then Finally, um, I have found that so many people have adapted To the post-covid world of meetings being hybrid and virtual and having smart boards We have just had too many, um meetings canceled due to quorum where if we were able to display people on the smart board We actually could have had the meeting So I think there's some flexibility in the shift if your board Supports us. I just wanted to share that information in response to some of the um when she brought up And chair, I just I just uh, want to add that this need to to speak with director morris a little bit more about About that one comment about the board members Appointing or advising on members of the advisory commission because really the advisory commissions are department oriented commissions. They're they they are advisory to the department head They're not Responsible in advisory to the board members and there are some brown act implications that would be involved If the board were to be involved in um in appointing so I'll I'll check in and we'll talk more about those issues Thank you. Appreciate that. Um I guess I'll just say based on that I I think that's What the recommendations were given from supervisor konig um keeping the medical emergency medical care commission and The human services commission to me seems like something that will be beneficial at this point until we can Hear more about how we can address some of these issues related to Um board members being able to appoint I also have to some concern too because you know, we just went through a long exercise of trying to um get commissioners Um stipends so they can participate on these commissions and if we start moving Commissions to these departmental advisory bodies. Does that mean we're now going to have to go back and shift those policies as well? because You know, that's something that we were trying to implement to increase equity on our boards and And I get that some of these boards it makes sense to eliminate but these two in particular seem like boards that People really want to be engaged on I heard from my commissioner that the human services board is they have well attended meetings And you know, I think that we need to give it a chance for us to see how our new policies on providing Financial support for commissioners how well that's effective at getting more participation on our boards But I do see the merits of some of these other Um commissions the environmental health appeals commission substance use disorder commission Has materials advisory commission certain services. I can see the merit and benefit of having those Um duties and responsibilities transferred to other commissions Um, but I I'd see the value in saving um the emergency medical care commission and human services commission. So Those are my I guess my final comments on this. Um But then I'll leave it to the board for for the action the deliberation on this Sure Oh, I'll move the recommended actions with the modification that 2.52 be removed from the second recommended action And that other options for improving the emergency medical care commission be considered as part of the ceo's updates on commission restructuring on or before august 27th So supervisor given the um the complications around us presenting two ordinances in one item If I could provide a little bit of guidance around a motion That that might help us get further along if if I didn't hear there being any comments on the emergency management council ordinance If there are if that's 2.52 no, that's that's uh, Sorry, oh, you're all right Right. So so the ordinance that that that you're if if your board is in agreement on that second ordinance I would recommend that you take a quick roll call vote With a motion to adopt that ordinance Bring it back for a second read on february at the board's next meeting And order that summary of that ordinance to be published and do that First and then take a motion on the second issue, which I'll get to after that roll call vote if your board agrees All right, then I will move recommended action three to approve and concept Ordinance amending chapter 2.106 of the santa cruse county code santa cruse county emergency management council second okay Any other further discussion? None. We'll do a roll call vote on that first recommended action Supervisor conic. Hi friend. All right, Hernandez Big person and Cummings Set first action passes unanimously. We'll move on to the other action items On on the on the other ordinance what we what we typically do if it's not an urgent item is we would get a motion on on To come back for a first read on the ordinance that you want to see because If we can't adopt a portion of an ordinance in this meeting An alternative to that is is we could go away for 10 minutes and I could write up replacement pages and bring you back a different ordinance to look at on first read based on your comments here today, but I think an appropriate motion may be to Tell us which commissions you would Agree to have sunsetted As of the end of march And we will bring back an ordinance on first read at the next meeting to address those specific commissions Thank you for that advice I think in the interest of time it would make sense for because we do have A closed session item and then we have an item that's pulled from the regular agenda And I know some individuals from that group are here with us today. So in the interest of time I think it might make sense for us to make a motion on the Item of the commissions that we will want to remove And call those out and have those come back for a first read Okay, I will move that we drive county council to return with an ordinance that sunsets Be Want me to explicitly name them the environmental health appeals commission hazardous materials advisory commission human services commission substance use disorder commission Answering services program advisory commission And that other options for improving the emergency medical care commission be considered as part of the CAO's updates on commission restructuring honor before august 27th First how we are we going to Thank you for the response also from the terms of commission Uh, there's a point to uh That's the name I'll hear my son Are we going to wait for a response on some of the comments that that county council said in some of the some of the things that uh chair Supervisor chair, um Cummings asked about On the human services commission um, I Don't I I guess I don't share the concerns. I do believe that given um, you know, as was stated in the The staff memo that because these a lot of the services that are In theory the commission speaks on are actually programs through the state that um, there might be other more effective avenues for Public engagement on this topic I'll second the motion yeah, the um Well, as I as I mentioned earlier the Um, string services program they're in very much completing their work in progress and it might um Requires additional direction. Um, and they're going to come back in March I guess we could re-establish that if we Had to Or not had to if we wanted to um I'll go ahead with the the motion is presented, but I think that it's a work in progress that Additional material might be uh good for us to consider before we eliminate them Uh, but I'll I'll go along with the motion with the idea that we could re-establish that commission um If need Yes, you could you could re-establish it if needed. It's your board's discretion and as I'm understanding the motion I'm going to bring back an ordinance that's going to address all of the commissions on the list other than the emergency medical care commission correct Correct, right and I think um, also it's the first read of that new ordinance Would be another opportunity to make sure that we are expected to receive a report around uh, syringe services in marches um, you anticipate supervisor McPherson I'll just make a brief comment real quick. Um, well, I'm not going to support the motion I would say that one of the things that could be considered is you know those conversations around syringe services If there's another commission that's having similar conversations Maybe those conversations around syringe services could be moved to another commission that way We don't have to re-establish a commission, but we can have those conversations to ongoing. So All right, so we have a motion by supervisor conic second by supervisor friend. Is there any further questions or comments on this item? The clerk does just request slight clarification. Um There are additional recommendations on the original item, and I just want to make sure that we Get a resolution on what's happening with those But I want to make sure that I'm also understanding this motion correctly um, does this motion include direction to publish the summary and to schedule the initial um The ordinance related to the emergency management council Does that include the directive to publish the summary and to bring it back on the 13th for a second read? I understood that as part of the original, uh, the first motion I understood that to be the case that the that the board was adopting those two recommended actions. Okay. Thank you Right, and then um, and I don't know if the If we need to come back to accept the report, but that was one of the items too was on here I deferred a council. Yeah, you could or you don't have to one of one way or another the recommended actions. Um Um, if if if they are not adopted, then they just die on their own Okay All right, there's no further questions or comments. Uh, call for a roll call vote inside them Supervisor conic. Hi friend all right Hernandez hi McPherson hi and Cummings no That motion passes with Hernandez conic friend and McPherson voting in favor and Cummings voting it. Um No With that there is there any other business to be had on this item Nope Seeing none, we will move on to our next item and I believe this is item number 11.1. Um, This was originally item number 55 On our agenda item 51. Oh, I'm 51. My apologies. Um, the approved agreement with integral consulting in the amount of $608 to repair a sea level rise vulnerability assessment and local coastal plan amendment and take related actions As recommended by the deputy ceo director of community development and infrastructure and I'll turn this back to Supervisor conic who pulled this item. Thank you chair. I'll be brief. Um, I'm just going to recommend that we put this Study back out to bid. We only received one bid And I am somewhat suspicious of that bid given that it is Within $8,000 of our total budget. It seems to be based more on our budget and less on the actual cost of the consultant to provide the work Um, I think there's a lot of reputable firms out there rink in ascent dudek And wood that just need a little bit more outreach to in order to get them to bid on this and Ultimately, this is a very important study. I think it's important that we proceed in a way that that All members of the public can support the process. Um, and I I do think a little bit more competition on on this bid as part of that All right, um That being said, is there any other questions or comments or questions on this item? Um, so seeing none, uh, we'll send this One if there's anybody from staff as well who might be able to Um speak to this item, but I'll bring it out to public comment First and we'll bring it back to see if staff can help clarify the process that was used on this project So, um, if there's anybody who would like to speak on this item, you can Step up to the podium and you'll have two minutes to speak We have no speakers online chair. Okay uh, David Carlson from the planning department. Um, I was involved in developing the Grant application for this project, which was approved by the coast of commission and also preparing the rfp that we did send out to eight different consulting firms um and Although I'm not certain Of all the reasons why we only got one bid I am aware that there is quite a bit of this work out there right now that different consultants are bidding on The county has had the cdi has had an issue recently with getting responses to rfps For various projects because of just the the amount of work that's out there um I'm also aware that some of the consultants did inquire about bidding on this with the integral consulting that ultimately we chose to award the contract to Um, and found out that they were going to be submitting a bid and had already formed a team And it was those outreach was for the purpose of trying to form a team to to submit a bid so, um You know those those contacts resulted in I think probably all the other consultants realizing that one consultant Who was highly qualified was going to submit a bid and they decided not to um, that's all I can say about um the process outside the county um But we followed followed all the procedures in the purchasing manual to prepare the rfp and advertise it and um And I think we got a very highly qualified bidder um that Is highly experienced in this area in in certain aspects of this rfp in particular Is the most qualified we're very confident in that and particularly the economic analysis that's that's uh in the rfp I think I think the burn we chose integral consulting has the The best expertise to do that part of the project um And we're recommending that the board approve the contract. Thank you appreciate that um seeing no other comments from members of the public um We'll go ahead and bring it back to the board for any comments or questions Uh, I'll move that we Put the study back out For a rebid. Um, I appreciate the comments by staff. Um, I just feel like this is a an item that it's important that We get right as More so than it's urgent Um, if on a second bidding, we still only have one applicant so be it but I do think that it is possible to improve outreach a little bit to see if we can get more competitive bids Okay, so we have motion by supervisor conic. Do we have a second? Okay, my motion by supervisor conic second by Supervisor McPherson. Um, I'll just say that I want to thank staff Um, first of all for their hard work to apply for these funds through the california coastal commission and secure these funds through the coastal commission and for following the policies and procedures that we normally use to look for Qualified bidders on these types of projects Um, sea level rise, especially with all the impacts we're facing right now is really Um critical in terms of our understanding how we're going to prepare ourselves and I just don't see I mean, I think the staff had Really Highlighted how they reached out to all the other consultants to see if there's other people who were interested Um, even the consultants were able to speak with themselves and that integral consulting ultimately Was selected as the most qualified consultant I think that, you know, it's important that we show especially to the other agencies that we're working with that When the county is receiving funds that we're doing our due diligence to make sure that we get these products moving so that we can utilize the funds Prior to costs of every of labor and all the other things going up And I know that integral consulting has done some really great work in our community And I'm seeing any reason today for us to delay I was trying to move forward with the study that is critically important for our community So I can't support the motion that's on the floor And I'd be willing to entertain the substitute motion if If there's any interest in moving this item I'll do I'll do a substitute motion to accept staff recommendation I'll second That motion is to no was that there's some comments I wanted to also thank staff for their due diligence Um, and I agree with you know staff's comments and praise and and the recommendation of this item That motion once everyone is done being heard is a substitute motion that would be heard first Correct. So are there any further comments by board members? Hearing none, I'll turn to the clerk for roll call vote on that item Supervisor Koenig. No Hernandez. Yes McPherson Incomings. Hi Is friend still Supervisor friend is not on the call Got it. So that motion fails due to a tie Right, and so we'll bring it back to the main motion So the original motion was to send this back out to bid Um, and that motion was made by supervisor Koenig seconded by supervisor McPherson Um, I'll again state before the vote that I'm not going to support that motion But we can go ahead with the roll call vote supervisor Koenig. Hi Hernandez. No McPherson Incomings. No So I like to look to county council because it seems like you know that motion also fails So at this point somebody could do an alternative motion or if there are no more motions then just the item, um Perhaps we'll come back on your next agenda. Um as is to see whether or not you can get um a vote So there's another motion on this item that anyone would like to entertain making at this time Alternative motion to what was already the two that were already proposed Or it could be the same one You know if it could be it could be the same one from a different person If you if you believe that you have ability to move forward with the item If not, if you believe you you've reached consensus for today, then you should probably just move on And let's bring it back to another agenda. Yeah, yeah Okay Well, I'm sorry to you know integral consulting that we're not able to approve this contract today But uh, I hope that when this comes to our next meeting that um, there's an opportunity for us to reconsider this item If the clerk may to ensure that the minutes accurately reflect where this has been left Will this be considered it did not improve or should this be considered a no action taken? No action taken, okay, thank you With the recordation of the motions that that were made and failed Okay, okay with that. I believe that ends that concludes the regular session for today We do have a number of items that are on our closed session. I'd like to ask county council if there's any reporting out On those items to Today, okay. Thank you. All right that that concludes our regular meeting and we will move into closed session


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