What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a twerk in the town I'm hooking them down Reaching the smiles and the frowns So y'all is Lauren Kay, we had a twerk in town And who's in the town today? Shawnee Bonnie It took you a minute to get here girl It did What's T? My fool, I'm here though You're here now, that's all that matters Okay, so we're gonna start off with a game of rapid-fire questions Just to break the ice a little bit, okay? So I'm gonna say question, you answer as quick as you got First question, one celebrity you will want to be stranded on an island with? Tiana Taylor That's interesting One word to describe you Lit What's your song? Aries What's your ethnicity? Black What's your favorite song or old song? Anything G Herbal Oh dear, not your favorite artist? What's your favorite pizza chain? Pizza? So like Domino's, Pizza Hut, Papa John Domino's What's the last text you sent? Somebody's coming to get you Favorite album or old song? Welcome to Fazolin Who's your favorite cartoon character? The Care From The Boondocks Which one? Right? The Braids What's one word you couldn't spell as a child? Wednesday What's the nastiest food you've ever eaten? Raccoon You ate a raccoon?      In the Bronx In the Bronx? Okay, so how was that for you? Cause I feel like we always hear the men talk about the Bronx We don't really hear about the women talk about the Bronx I don't know, I feel like growing up I can't picture me growing up anywhere else If that makes sense I feel like the way we operate is different than every other girl I feel like every girl is different Where do you feel like the Bronx is different? I feel like the Bronx is just weird I think the Bronx just got a different type of energy I feel like you meet somebody or you hear somebody talking You'd be like, oh we could tell you from the Bronx Okay, so how did you start making music? Cause my pop used to rap He would like make me do little raps here and there So then I just, I started taking it serious I just started trying to go to the studio But I still didn't really care about it too much Sometimes I liked it But yeah, my dad is the reason why I started making music Okay, so when did you decide like this is what I'm gonna do I'm gonna be a rapper When I started to see people who can't rap Just like going crazy Okay, you said if they could do it Then I could definitely get on with it Yeah Okay, respectfully Who is some of your musical influences? I know you said you influenced by your dad But what about like in the musical room? G Herbo Okay Definitely Lil Dirk Female wise I like Tiana I like Tiana Taylor Like nobody really be listening to her But I like, not nobody be listening to her She slept on Let me not say nobody listen to her It's really interesting that you brought her up during the Cause nobody would say that Yeah So what is it about her that you like Especially you being a rapper Like how do you connect with her? I just like her style I feel like she's different Like you can't really compare her to nobody I like Coloree too Even though she came out when I was already making music But I really like her too Okay, that's really interesting So how do you pick your beat? Cause I think your beats is very like They're always very much in your face Like it don't even matter what you're talking about The beat is still like mad hard Yeah So how do you decide like this is something that I'm jacking Like I don't listen to beats at home Like when people send me like I'll have like a hundred beats in my email But I don't listen to it like Why? Cause when you do that you gotta You're thinking too much Like you're thinking like I don't do that Like I'll just go to the studio And I'll just play some beats And I'll just pick it But I don't listen to beats at home Hmm The only way I'll listen to a beat at home Is if I got a freestyle That's it Okay So why does that change it for you? Cause when you listen to a beat at home It don't sound the same as when it's in the studio I'll listen to a beat at home It'll sound trash Then when I go to the studio And I put my headphones in Like it sound way different to me So what about a beat has to grab you In order for you to be like nah It cannot stay the same the whole time Okay Like I like beats that Like switch throughout the whole track Okay Have you ever had a song where you wrote the song And then picked a beat Or do you always pick a beat first? I think I had a song like that before But it was like on some I was in the studio and I had a little bit of time left And I had nothing else to do And I just had lyrics And I did like that But that's not something I do though So what does your standard studio session look like? What do you need in the room? Who you need in the room? Like what's the boss? I invite like two or three people I like having the same engineer Okay I need an engineer that like Talk to me Like I can't have an engineer just sit there And let me do whatever He gotta tell me this sound crazy This sound good Like we be having Migos Like we be lit in the studio And I can't just be in the studio Okay So you prefer to do it Drunk, coy or both? Nah I don't smoke Rather drink Really? Okay So drinking?  I'm not doing it again Why? What happened? Cause I was just like I don't know I was just in there stuck And I felt like it distracted me So what's your writing process like? Do you write? Nah I don't write I don't like make music Till I go to the studio Okay So I'll get there Yeah I won't write at home I don't do that Maybe if I do write at home I'll do like a chorus Okay I'll write like eight lines the most And when I get to the studio I just finish it there Okay so when you get in the studio Are you writing Or are you just going in the booth Going crazy I'll go in the booth And I'll like Here I'll just keep on Playing myself back And I'll just think of something To add But I still write it So I can remember what I was saying So how much input do you have On the production side of things Like I know you said Do you want your engineer To be talking to you Are you sitting there with him Like no this is wrong This is wrong Yeah I do that a lot Like I'll tell them To add this in it Or add this or lower that Or yeah I always do that Okay But I feel like a good engineer Like you don't got to tell them that Absolutely So you being from New York I feel like it's a common thing Where people always say like New York rappers don't go As far as they should Because New York is just divisive Do you feel like New York is divisive Or do you feel like Everybody's saying I feel like everybody in New York Behaving on each other Like when I go That's why I like Being down south When I go down south They show mad love That's why people down south Go up They show mad love They support They play you in clubs Those types of stuff In New York you have to be Like hella connected Mad beef in New York So even the people that Do fuck with your music Some of them can't even Like really like Publicly jack you Because it's like Oh she fuck with this person She like so yeah I do feel like that Okay so real quick Going to the down south thing You have fans down there Not really Like I'll have people Share my stuff Down south stuff like that But I could go down south And walk through the mall And be good Like I'm not going to have people Like run up to me Doing X, Y, Z Like I don't really Feel like down south Like I'm not how I'm here down south Okay make sense Would you be in a woman Do you feel like The rap girl scene Is divisive Or as divisive As New York is Yes Because bitches be hating Oh shit Okay do you feel like That's a New York thing Or just a bitch thing I feel like I feel like in New York It's the worst But I do feel like It's a female thing too Okay It's not every female though Like it's a lot of Female rappers that Like show me love And stuff like that But I feel like the Female rappers that Show me love We have nothing in common That is very interesting To hear you say Because from the outside Looking in I feel like the The New York girls are Pretty like Like y'all stick together Y'all support each other So that's really interesting To hear you say that You feel otherwise Some people like Some people support Just for the look of it though Like I personally Know somebody that Like they was Supporting me So it could be like It could look like We working together But that's You don't really Fuck with me like that But that's just how I feel though I feel like If somebody feel like You're not competition Then that's when they support That's T That's what I feel like But me like I be supporting a lot of Most of the Girl rappers But it's just like Once you try to take it Then y'all start doing music Together and that's when Shit get weird It be good at first Then it just start getting Weird I do feel like I hear your name From a lot of the Specifically the New York girls I hear your name a lot That's why I say Yeah I'm cool Most of them But the ones that's Already like Y'all already There So right So one thing about you The hair stays done It's done right now Y'all see her No ladies Hair stays done And I think One of the most Interesting parts about you Is that you are Talking like Hot shit But you look Like well you said You're not a Barbie But you look like A Barbie And then sometimes You turn that off And you get real I'm a What did you say What And I'm gonna act bad On the nigga I had to That's my favorite line That's why So do you do that On purpose Like do you Control your image I just feel like I don't know how to explain it Like that is kind of weird Now that I think about it But I don't You think it's weird I think it's interesting It's interesting in a sense But I just feel like Like I'll go to the Stew right now Like this My makeup done And I'm still gonna Talk hot But that's just me I'm not doing that I don't do that for an image Okay so like I love though I always care how I look Like I always was into Like dressing up But now I do wear More clothes I would say Like before I would dress More like Now I wear like more Like I wouldn't really Be wearing hoodies and stuff Like that Okay so this is basically Just the authentic Shawnee Barney I'm in my soft girl era I love that We love that We all want to be In our soul Yeah I'm in my soft girl Ever I love that So is there a difference Between the rapper Shawnee Barney And like the person Behind the scenes Shawnee Barney Yeah I feel like Like I don't know I feel like people Look at drill rappers Just like negativity Like I'm not a negative person Right But I feel like Most of us Like cause everybody Call us drill rappers We artists But everybody call us Drill rappers Most of us Are That has good people Right Nice people Funny people Let people We just don't Like each other That's New York shit Not for real All of us are good people We fun We funny We lit But we good people To the people we care about Yeah So do you consider yourself To be a drill rapper? No I'm an artist But everybody just Labels me that Okay So how do you feel about that?  I feel like If I didn't know how To do that stuff It would be harder Okay But like I could go to the Studio right now Make a song about how Niggas ain't shit Right I could do that But that's just not what Right A lot of people Like without drill rap Like they can't make music That's T So what do you Feel like What dictates how You make your music What do people want to hear Or what you want to make Not like I'll go to the studio And make I'll go to the studio Right now And make a drill song A love song And a ratchet song Okay I just put out the drill song Because that's what My father's going to hear But in the long run It's like right When I want to do X, Y, Z then So when BMG Upper class said the whole Like he wanted you And Maya And Kenzo To do the sexy thing The snippet that you Put out after he said that Did you already have that In the tub Or you made that After he said that I did that like A day before he said that Wow What a coincidence That's why That's why And it's crazy Cause I wasn't I wasn't even going to Put that snippet out Like no time soon And then he just Pissed me off So I just did it Okay My following question Like he was being a Cloud chaser Like and I feel like He looked dumb because It backfired on him One because everybody Was calling him a pervert And two because I shitted on him with the Triller So it's like You try to Not try to play us In a sense Cause I understand What he's saying But I just feel like That wasn't something That you had to like Put out there You could have like DMed us Or some shit like that Now you did that Now you look dumb Now he asking me To be on his podcast I feel like Especially with you All the drill girls You were Like you did talk that Hot shit But I feel like You was talking You were talking about Niggas Like I just said That I'm gonna act bad On the niggas Like I feel like You've always done that So it was interesting to me That he would Even include you in that Yeah he beasted And he probably watched That shit Like three times a day Like So Drake hit 21 Savage Just put out I won't Did you listen No you're not interested No I just didn't listen Okay Who do you want to do That type of thing with Like who do you want to do A tape with Like a whole tape Just me and them Whole tape Just you and them Dirk Definitely low Dirk Okay why Dirk Because I feel like I don't know Dirk is just so real Like the stuff he talk about Stuff he like He make people like Understand what he say Like a lot of shit Dirk talk about I've probably never been through it But when I listen to I just feel like it Okay So he makes you feel his shit So why Dirk And Naji Herbal Because I know you said that Should fit you You think you would like Choke up Yes I'd be nervous with you But no Like all jokes aside Like I just feel like I just feel like with Like I fuck with you Herbal the most out of any rapper But I just feel like with Dirk Like I don't know I just feel like the songs You will make will probably Just be like Make more sense Yeah And I do I could see that Because I feel like you Be doing your melodic Things sometimes Yeah I feel like That would be Yeah I would be singing Right Yeah I saw you post that little Commercial challenge Where you were singing All the commercials You know what I'm talking about And I think you did pretty well It was a couple that I Knew that you didn't I was surprised But I only didn't know Like two of them Okay so Do you be watching TV like that No No I don't really watch TV I watch like I watch like Fulu shows here Like I watch TV That everybody else watch Like Power Okay I also wanna ask Like what you watching right now Game of Thrones I'm not a Game of Thrones girl Me either I used to be into it But it's actually good But like no I don't really Watch TV like that Okay And then when I do I watch on my phone Like I don't like Watching on TV I hate watching TV On the phone I don't know how I only like it on my phone Why I don't know On the TV Made me fall asleep It's weird Okay I could see that But it's on the phone It's just mad like Small You read subtitles You read subtitles Like subtitles You be reading the subtitles On your phone What phone you got I don't be knowing I don't know what phone it is On my phone No Yeah None of us know It's just an iPhone And it works No Cause y'all be Y'all be with the big ass phones With the tablet phones That don't look like A tablet phone to me So that's crazy That you read And the subtitles That's BC But nah yeah I don't watch TV Like that Okay But you do watch Power Yeah I watch Power Like all the shows That 50 do like Power BMF I watch all those shows What's your favorite That's my favorite Yeah that's my favorite And I like BMF though Okay I like BMF But the ghost one is my favorite I think that it's like Neck and neck With the regular Power series Only because the regular Power series has mad seasons Nah I'm over the regular one What They had Angela And that shit for too long She was supposed to Get out of here Yeah like It was just dragged out Like with I feel like with one with Tyreek It moved faster Like it's always something new Going on Okay so When you brought that up I was supposed to play another game So I know you got the song Winning Great song Everybody go stream Winning So I want to know Who's winning in these Scenarios Okay we're going to play a game So I'm going to read your scenario And you let me know Who's winning in these scenarios Well who won Okay So the first one is Who won overall Tasha or ghost Um Being in season 6 Last episode Who you feel like won Tasha or ghost Um Ghost Why ghost Cause I feel like ghost Is still in charge of shit And he's dead But he died He's still in charge of shit though That's true I could see that I was And Tasha Tasha didn't really have Nothing without him So it's like And she went to jail That's what it is That's what I'm saying She didn't have nothing without him Okay so Who won Tasha or Angela Tasha I don't like side bitches But Angela Well nah She got killed So I don't like side bitches Side bitches Okay Alright So next situation Irv Gotti put him In Ashanti's business Or out there That granted The views for his documentary series Definitely went up Everybody tuned in Everybody wanted to know what he said But Ashanti basically ignored him And then basically went on Angie Montana's podcast That was like Most of it was Kat So who's winning that situation Irv or Ashanti Whatever the What's his name Irv Yeah he's losing Why he lost He lost when he said Something about her in the first place I agree It was corny Yeah that's mad corny Mad corny I feel like A man A man that pillow talk That's what I'm saying I can't And then you did that Publicly You lean for that Especially for her to have A whole different story Yeah And for her to not even care It's like you thought She was about to get in on He lost Mad years later Okay so the next one Christiana came up And now You know she on shows And shit Like she got the bag But Now she got a n***a tattoo On her neck And like she's Known as Blue Faces girl On Blue Faces And I got a n***a name On my neck right here Okay let me just let you know A couple of hours down We used to talk about that tattoo thing Okay My bad No but I felt it though Like you know I feel like Christiana's winning Because now I feel like it was more So yeah Blue Faces bit Blue Faces bit But Christiana You see Christiana's name Way more than Blue Faces Now Way more than Blue Faces Like right now Christiana is basically Giving Blue Faces coat So do you feel like She's winning For now Or you feel like I feel like she's winning to us But just not like mentally I don't feel like she's winning Like I feel like From the outside looking in Yeah she's winning Because she's lit She came up But I feel like mentally She's still got like some Shit with her that's like It's like she's winning But then when she's going home At night it's still like It's fucked up I feel like that's a lot Of celebrities Like you watching But I really like her too Like I really like Christiana Even her music Like I fuck her I've actually never heard of Christiana So I'm not gonna lie She got some so called Rainy days She be like Why you playing this Open minded That's nice Love that So the next one Cassie was with Diddy For 10 years I wouldn't call it A waste of time But it didn't amount to nothing She moved on Got her husband Got her some kids But now young Miami Is fucking with Diddy And she's getting spoiled You know that's our city girl She's getting the money She's getting the cars The trips All of that So who you feel like Is winning Cassie Or young Miami Okay why Miami She winning Because the media Be trying to The media will see Diddy With a bitch And try to like Play her like Oh but Karisha She don't care She does not care She's getting spoiled He's doing Like he's not even He's not even like Treating her like Putting her in the back And he's putting her on songs She definitely appears to be The main one That's what I'm saying But I don't even feel like She cares about that Like it's just like She's benefiting from it She's getting spoiled She's putting music out Like I feel like she know What they got in agreement That's what I feel I definitely think they They probably laugh At the Yeah that's what I'm saying They got in agreement So it's like She not losing That's a fact So Instagram has been around For 10 years And I feel like the way Instagram has stayed around Is by taking key components From other platforms Like the stories from Snapchat to Stay afloat So right now They're trying to do The reels Which everybody's Eating up But they got that From TikTok Which is also Definitely heating up They've made waves In a very very short Period time And like I said I gotta say TikTok Okay But it's kind of weird Because if you ask anybody What like Their favorite app is They're gonna say Instagram You jacking us? I don't think Now I feel like Because TikTok is It's everybody's World-wide Kids is So it's like You can't ask everybody In the world Because you know So many people on TikTok You don't know But like I just started Really paying attention To TikTok Like two nights ago And I just keep scrolling Watching stuff Like Instagram Yeah but everybody telling me To get on TikTok But you give me TikTok Which is why it's so like Like I feel like I could definitely see All your trailers and shit I could definitely see them On TikTok Yeah Good But I just be me Like I don't I don't be thinking Like let me record I don't think like that But now I will Because I be seeing TikTok Like TikTok is Like real dumb But it's funny And it really keep you up I feel like it depends On your for you page Yeah my for you page Is weird My for you page Is just be having mad Sad girls Talking about they got pregnant They beady left And I'm telling you My boyfriend was just asking me The other day he like Why does this shit Keep popping up for you I'm like I don't know That's your algorithm They trying to tell you Something I'm like I don't know That's what he's saying Your algorithm Think you sad or something I don't know And I'd be watching it So that's the crazy part See that's why It's up there Because they know They go keep you Wrapped in I just be scrolling So the next one Is trash And like she got on Because the light skin privilege Or pretty girl privilege Whatever But everybody know the songs Everybody screaming every word To it When you go out on Saturday You got the hook around Shit going up So who's winning Ice Spice Or the general public Well Ice Spice is winning I also feel like I feel like Because people don't be in tune Like if you really know Ice Spice been making music For a minute Like she really My manager show me Ice Spice like two years ago Damn really She been making music For a minute And I feel like She got light skin privilege I think she waited her turn Got her song and went up Like that's what I feel like I actually didn't know about her Until I started with her Yeah a lot of people A lot of people don't know But like that's how you know People don't even do their research Like if you look up her name You'll see shit from Unless she took it down But I don't think that's Light skin privilege I think she just Went up And it could be Who you know It could be like Who connects Like it could be Like it don't gotta be I don't know People make everything about Race And I think her should fire I don't think she tries Yeah I don't think she tries Yeah Okay so the next one Girls in drill Versus The guys in drill Who's winning The girls is winning That's why the guys is mad That's why they want To clap us now I'm telling you So what is it about With us with the girls Like If you really listen The niggas is not saying anything That's exactly what I'm saying They're not saying anything They're just catchy The girls we really rap Like we're really rapping We're really talking We're really They're not saying nothing I completely agree I think that y'all Like even Y'all vocabulary The way y'all say stuff Yeah the way we hear Y'all maybe saying the same message But y'all got Like I feel like Lyrically we're better Like me personally I just feel like Lyrically we're better I just feel like They got more of the fan base They got more of So that's cool They diss more They been on more drills Obviously they niggas But it's just like I don't know I'ma just say We're winning Cause the way they be talking about it So Listen I'm with the girls I think the girls got it Yeah So the last one Bronx drill Bronx drill Versus Brooklyn drill Bronx Brooklyn drill is like To me Brooke I don't know Like Bronx drill is more hyped to me I definitely do feel like Brooklyn drill is more of a Go to a spot Play a song Everybody vibe out Do shit like that Really?  That's crazy So how does that make you Well you in him How does that make y'all feel Well I don't Like me and him Don't ever really talk about it Like he just be like I'll just show him a comment He just laughs But me it gets on my nerves Because it be like It be like Me take a cute picture Take a cute video I want to post it Damn but I'm about to lose 200 followers That's crazy If I post it on my story I'll be good I'll lose like Maybe 20 But if I post it On my page Page Like it's over They don't want to see that I think that's mad crazy Because it's not like You fire and make trash music I feel like the music is good And you're a rapper So why are you Especially when you niggas Never had a chance It's to begin with And it's not even But it's not even It's crazy because it's not Somebody that like Make music that like It's not a rapper It's not I don't Talk to people like that Like so You want to talk to a rapper Like take them serious No Why not Because they're a rapper Like Bitches just throw themselves At rappers And a niggas Gonna be a niggas Hard to just be like It be fire Bitches All types of stuff I'm not dealing with that That's a fact I feel like a lot of Women Well if he buying me shit As long as I don't find out I'm cool So that's not your problem Yeah not me I could buy myself stuff Period I know that's right So moving on to YouTube Cause you real big in the YouTube drill world So how did those videos Start happening Well um Nody and all of them I feel like I didn't even want to Say a name But cause you be with Nody Booba Oh Yeah But anyway Um Nody Hit me up He was like Yo I wanna get you on this YouTube vid And then I watched like A little Actually I'm lying I don't think I just like Went through his page I didn't go like Directly to his YouTube I just went on his Instagram And I see so many people He be with I'm like Nah what the hell Then I was just like Whatever these videos Look funny Cause he wanted to do Me and Kenzo That's why I was like Okay if it's us too It's fine But I did not trust it Like Cause he was running Around a taxi cab I went downstairs I went from like Be safe be safe I went downstairs I seen him Then I seen like It was like A couple of niggas Like by the taxi cab But like He didn't know them I didn't know them At the time And I ran back upstairs So I told my boyfriend Like nah he's weird So my boyfriend Came down with me With his schemas He came down with me And walked me to Nody's car Nody opened the door I'm like Okay this is really him I'm good Okay So would you Do your own I'm able to look at me As a YouTuber Okay I feel like I feel like YouTubers is like People It depends on what my YouTuber will be about Like I definitely can't Go on YouTube And be silly And do goofy shit And then try to talk Gangsta in my rap And think people Better take me serious That's how I feel Okay so would you Do like Vlogs A vlog yeah But like All those silly I'd rather just be a part Of it Than do it myself So when it comes to the Pranks right Before you link them Or it just be Like everything Just wants to be like Yeah We just go Really Yeah So is there ever anything That happens in the videos That you like right now Like he's dead I extract it Like I'm not feeling that Um Like I just had to tell him Like not Don't do the whole Like choking shit And don't like Don't do that Cause I got a boyfriend That's different Um It be times where like I just have a reflex And I just match Nody And he don't put that In his face I don't know why But it was It was even a time Where I was doing a video With somebody else Not Nody I don't talk to them Now But I was doing a YouTube Video with them And I didn't notice My two friends Was watching me They know I'm doing a YouTube video They know We do skits They know that They're watching me Though Like from A window I did not peek Okay So like The person like Grab me up And my friend Like ran in the V And like Deaded the whole thing But they know that's what Like But they just didn't like it So how does your man Feel about it sometimes He just like I don't like To me he Understanding what I do Like I love that Yeah He's my understanding What I got going on What I want to do Like he knows it's just Like And then I introduce him To everybody too That's one thing Like he met anybody I'll do a song Or he knows them So it's like But he just don't Like the whole choking Confident he's secure Like he knows who he trusts you Like that's We love that Cause he'd be knowing Like be around Like I'll introduce him I feel like that's important Like to introduce The person you do it To who you be around Definitely Are you friends with Nody in real life Mm-hmm Love that So it's more of a Nody's actually a really good person Like he's real sweet Like If I even post something On Instagram That seems sad or something He's like You could call me Like he's so sweet He's mad cool And he got a girlfriend too And his girlfriend's the same way Like we just did a video together So genuine shit It's so genuine Yeah everything is genuine So is anything exaggerated For the cameras? Um Or like behind the scenes I'm not really gonna I'm not really gonna Knock out his bitch Like Of course So stuff like that Yeah I'm not really gonna Do that but Yeah for the most part It's cause kids watch it It's what kids like Okay So Who's in your playlist Right now Who you listening to Right now Let me check my phone Oh she about to give us The authentic answer Y'all She gonna write to the phone Um Duggy Okay Lil Baby G Herbo Set the trend Kyle Rich Lil T.J Christian Rock Yaggy B Stunna Gambito Like that Like he's like that Okay So Duggy All of them How did y'all become friends? Um Um Because We all have a lot of mutual friends Okay Like But once Everything Like I was Fucking with my management first And then they started Like Getting into my management So they start coming around more And then that's how Like I would always know Who they was and stuff like that Like Or for mutual people But More so like Being around each other a lot And stuff like that It was from management I feel like Everybody in the Bronx Know each other Yeah Like if you name somebody Oh yeah I know who that is Yeah The Bronx is small You feel like it's small I feel like the Bronx is mad But It's big but it's small Like Half of these The places that got beef With each other And stuff like that Is like mad close I don't know Honestly I just Can't bother with the Bronx I just With the Bronx Yeah So What's one song Or artist That The public would be Surprised That you listen to It's some song by Doja Cat What's it called? Vegas Yeah People won't think I listen to music like that So you do I've been listening to all types of music Okay cause you did name A lot of rap Gorgeous now Yeah I listen to all types of music Okay what's like Like You go as far as like Country You listen to country music The only country song I liked was that song With Lil Nas X Okay I still like it though I thought she was gonna Deep in the country No not like that But like I listen to singing music Like I like Summer Walker I like all types of like I don't just I don't even Listen to like I don't be on my phone With them listening to drum music Like I don't do that Do you listen to your own music? Not really Like sometimes I listen to my I listen to my own release More than I listen to stuff That's out Why? I feel like I don't I always do that Like I listen to my own release Then when I put it out I don't listen to it How do rappers feel about Their own voice Because like I feel like Regular people when we talk Usually people don't Like the way their voices sound Like on camera Me like I ain't Like I didn't used to want to rap Because I used to be like More on some singing vibe Because I feel like when I rap My voice was too high Okay Now my voice getting a little Bit lower But it's still hot So do you find it annoying Or you're like Okay like this is me It depends like One track I feel like my voice Is all annoying And the next track I feel like I leveled it right So it just like What percentage of the time Are you listening to yourself? Like is it regular Or is it just like Like if I I don't listen to myself every day Like I don't So how do you I like my music though I fuck with my music I fuck with myself I like how I rap But I just don't listen to everything Because I'm going to get tired of it Okay So how do you pick up on like Okay this next song I want to do this better Or this next song I feel like I want to give X, Y, V No I don't But to do stuff like that I don't really listen to my own songs I just Think about it And be like Because I don't like to be repetitive Okay Got it, got it, got it So You said You was putting out a project On your birthday Oh yeah What's the schedule area Which was that past So what's T What we getting this project Well it was my stuff going on My boyfriend got arrested On my birthday Oh wow My birthday was crazy Around my birthday was crazy Like it was just like Bad timing But now I feel like And I also feel like It's just my birthday I wanted to be more like sentimental So I wanted to put a project out On December 31st Because that's my cousin's birthday That past I still got the songs I just Didn't want to like You know what I'm saying So December 31st is the date All right yes December 31st December 31st y'all December 31st You heard that int December 31st So are you changing Any of your songs Adding, subtracting Or like It's staying the exact time I have songs Where I've added more verses Like all types of stuff like that Okay So are you signed? No Are you looking for a deal right now? It's like It's a lot going on Okay You like the independent route for now? No No It's not that I like it It's just like I feel like They try to give the girls The back end like Like they look at us as like I don't know The shit they be doing For the guys They don't do that I feel like they think Girls is like Worth less And I also think That it has to do with like I've heard a lot of execs say like Women cost more money We do Because we get our hair done We get our nails done We get our makeup done So the shit that y'all could give To guys Like all they're going to do Is buy clothes Niggas don't even be really Getting shape ups All types of stuff So it's like But they still go broke though So it's like Yeah So if a If a nigger is going broke And all he's buying is clothes Not no crib Not no car No nothing just clothes Like what do you think is going to happen With a female When we gotta do our hair We gotta do our nails And I think that women The return on investment Is way greater Because women Women ride for you Like I'm sure you got the girls Behind you And your fans probably Love you down Like I feel like Sometimes men Don't really have that It just be like Okay just don't get hot Nah you know what it is When men The fans be mixed Because they don't They'll have fans But then they Fans also listening To the people This and them And all types of stuff Like that Like I feel like My fans My fans will be like Defending me all types of stuff Right And I feel like It's like a thing where Men be so prideful They don't be wanting a Like team fan That will over a nigger For a girl They'll be like Oh yeah I listen to Shawnee Barney I listen to Kendall B I listen to Devin So they get shown Much more support So does your family Listen to your music How do they Feel about it And how do you Feel about them listening to it They just They just be Mass supportive like I feel like That's what they But I also feel like I just feel like I respect Like certain shit Like my aunt Like I'm mad close to My aunt And she'll tell me Like she'll I'll give you my answer Again password So you can share your stuff Like I'm not going through That I don't listen to That I don't listen to What you make I'm not I just I support you Shawnee support Yeah I like stuff Like that Like don't Don't let me come In the family Function And you play my music Just because It's not really too fond of Drill Has his opinion changed No No he just listened to you Yeah he listened to me But My dad be like Like he sees everything Like he's going to see this Like he sees everything Like he'll see the comments People say about me He'll see He's talking crazy about me Like so he just feels like My dad feel like It's just My dad just feel like Drill is just It's negative Cause it's Talking on dad It's this It's that Right So On that same tip When I listen to feelings You talking about Like You losing people That really matter to you And like Family problems So how does it make you feel When people deem Drill as like this Negative Genre This like Like you said People's only smoking on dad And shit When it's people that's Talking real life I feel like Like with me I understand That like a lot of people Will be like Oh I don't Like how to say I don't Respect this person For talking on dad's Or like Listen now Even when they talk about The little boy Yeah when they talk about him Like Oh but that's a kid That he's like But it's like But that's what they was into That's what they was talking about They not talking about that stuff For no reason They not talking about it Yeah it's for views In a sense But They not just a random person That's rapping about it They're outside With these people who And this is what's happening Yeah so it just To me it is what it is So what do you think It's going to be within the next five years I feel like drill Drill did not just start That's what I feel like I completely understand Chicago been on Drill and all type of stuff Like that I feel like drill's always Going to be around Just in different sounds Like right now drill Is the whole Batman voice In X, Y and Z In five years from now It'll just be Different type of drill beats People still going to be Talking on dad's It's just going to be like It's going to sound different But it's still going to be Drill in some sense Okay so when you see yourself In five years I definitely I don't In five years I will not Be making drill music Okay That I won't do Because it's going to be different Like it's going to be Other people's time To start like Showing their side of drill Like right So do you feel like You'd adapt to A new form of drill Or do you feel like No be past that I feel like I'll be past that Okay So you feel like I'm going to be 25 in five years Why would I want to Get on a drill soon Yeah So you feel like Drill is a stepping stone I just feel like I'm not taking a 30 year old drill rapper serious Okay I'm going to just be like What is he doing Okay But they are older drill rappers They are But if you It looks stupid If you're an older drill rapper And you're speaking on little kids No that's a fact That's what I don't like That part's a young man's game Yeah Most of the older Drill rappers Like they're trying to Insert themselves in Little kids shit That looks dumb And little kids It's on that They're definitely So that looks dumb to me So As far as rap goes Do you see yourself You say in five years You're going to be 25 Do you see yourself Still rapping at least No I see myself Still making music But I feel like I'll be More so into like Like I want to be into Shows, movies Like I want to be on TV I want to just do all that Like I don't want to Just make music That's why I like Tiana Taylor And um I like Tiana Taylor And um Taraji Cause they like She can sing She in mad movies She's in shows So what type of stuff Do you see yourself Acting on? It can't be nothing boring It can't It got to be like I feel like I got to be me Like What I like about Taraji Is When I see her in a movie I know what role She's about to play She's going to be crazy She's going to have mad Personality Like she's her I like that I don't want to like Change myself Just to be in character That makes sense Of course you got to Switch certain things around But like I feel like With Cardi B They play in a movie They let her be a stripper Cause it's about stripping Like I like that Cause that's her Okay So a lot of actresses Feel like though They don't want to be put Into Well type casted So they don't want to Be put into the same type of roles You would want to be Shiny Bonnie Every time Not every time Of course not every time I want it to be too repetitive But I also don't Like I don't want to be I don't want to go Like hot thing But I want to go in a movie And be like Emo Okay So it's just I feel like Certain stuff You just They try to change You too much Like that's not me Got it So on your Instagram I seen that she was up At High 97 with Flex So what happened With that whole thing I don't even know What you mean you don't know Like I really don't know Did you do a freestyle Yeah Oh period Okay so how was that I just don't know What a freestyle to ask That's what I'm saying It'd be like that Yeah So how was that whole Out there How did that even happen It was cool That's why That's why I was saying Label stuff That happened Like label stuff Whatever But It was cool I was nervous at first Then Flex was mad cool Like he was like Real confident It's just My friends is mad ghetto And want to Sit in Flex chair Talk about Why I need to drop the beat And it kicked him out the room So now I know Who to bring outside Me and who not to So do you feel like That experience like Like was it humbling for you Or like was it like a Damn like I'm really With Flex right now It was basically like that Cause that's something Like that's really something I've always wanted to do Like always Like since I was younger Like being on Flex So it's the end of the year November Thanksgiving is coming up So what's one unpopular Thanksgiving opinion That you have Unpopular Unpopular Like is there a food That everybody like That you don't like I don't like stuffing But I feel like a lot of people Don't like that I don't either So I'm saying I don't Is it a certain way Your mat gotta be cooked You don't like your food Touching you do This year I'm not going To a bunch of different houses Because I do not have a car And Ubers do not be coming On Thanksgiving Ubers don't be coming Ubers don't be coming On Thanksgiving There be no ubers No cab is nothing So that's what I'm not doing I'm not going from house To house this year I got a whole separate one On the paper Uber I feel like Uber You be in a rush They take 18 minutes You ready for them To take time They be in two minutes But yeah I'm not going house To house this year Maybe that's Okay So what's your What's one Thanksgiving rule you have Like you somebody Gotta make a certain dish Do something half To be on your plate At all times My mat and yams Gotta touch Mmm Okay I don't really like you don't like that.  I can't I don't really like my food to touch to be honest I don't really do that. I don't like that. I can't I can't eat can yams with nothing That's the same yams like bottom stuff.  You don't like hustles I like hustles on everything Mm-hmm, so what's one of your things give and play? Chicken mac and cheese canyons Collard greens or Nikko keto you like egg. No, mm-hmm. Okay It'd be mad stuff like my family's making mad different stuff.  I have curry chicken.  Like I know that's right. Yeah, that's super interesting So they don't even be cooking just the plane. No, they make everything Spanish.  It'd be big. It's it's so big that like Thanksgiving be I did like I said, I'm not going house house this year So wherever I'm at where I'm at because it'd be like different houses Like my aunt would do something in our house then we go into my other like after we done our house We're going to my other I'm staying in one house So keep it with the end of the year thing talking to town awards is coming up So what talk in the town award?  What's the like award things like what's the we got energetic most disrespectful? What else we got? That's female best male. I feel like it's a whole lot of categories.  So just forget it. I Feel like okay, well, I'm gonna say it. I think that your energy is definitely up there probably but like I Feel like my energies is more so like You gotta think about videos like I be having energy maybe in my my trailers and so like that when I do videos I stopped acting so crazy in the vids for some reason. So maybe not Also where energy is more like people that go live and be screaming at they phone and volume. That's energy That's not energy to you or the people that you post the people that you have posted in the past Will you say energy they do where she like that I? Feel like you could be on live all day and have a whack-ass. Oh, I thought that's why you would pick them Huh, I feel like you would be on live all day have a whack-ass on you be on live all day and talk Better on a lot of things doing your song night.  He was I don't know like a mass thing. I don't know it.  So I feel like you would definitely be up for most energy You heard that That's T. Oh, okay for the record you have my vote on my ball off. Okay. You had me Okay So that's that's T. So let the people know where to find you And that's a great moment to look my Instagram is Shawnee Bonnie tiktok. It's Shawnee Bonnie YouTube Sean everything is Shawnee Bonnie. Just look up Shawnee Bonnie All right


Live from the Computer History Museum in the heart of Silicon Valley. It's theCUBE, covering OpenStack Silicon Valley 2016. Brought to you by Morantis. Now, here are your hosts. John Furrier and Lisa Martin. Okay, welcome back. We are live in Silicon Valley for the OpenStack SV, OpenStack Silicon Valley event hosted by Morantis and the Industry and the OpenStack Foundation. This is theCUBE Silicon Angles Flagship Program. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. I'm John Furrier with my co-host, Lisa Martin. Our next guest is Alex Friedland, who's the CEO of Morantis, also sponsoring the event, also sponsored theCUBE with the OpenStack Foundation. Thank you so much for supporting theCUBE. Welcome back. Good to be here. So we'd like to get you at the end of the day because one, you're tired, you're going to just tell us things. Spill the guts, not idea. Yeah, yeah. Well, we're spilling the guts today during the confidential session, right? We can't share any of that. We promise it's going to stay in the room, right? It's all live. Don't worry, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. That's right. I've been commenting at the opening segment, at least than I did our editorial segment, being on the front row of watching OpenStack grow from the beginning, the twinkle in the eye of Rackspace and NASA here back in, oh, back to, oh, eight, I think it was. 10. Yeah, oh, 10. Well, they kind of were thinking about it earlier. Yeah, they were thinking about it. Yeah, you know, Amazon's out there. But all of a sudden, every year everyone says OpenStack is dead. Since the foundation really pivoted around contribution, not a vendor-centric model, growth has happened. So my theme this year was, OpenStack continues to be the survivors. The navigating, the zigging, zigging properly and we've seen the evolution. But this is the year that we're talking about thriving, going to that next level. So survive and thrive. So my first question to you is, as you guys grow, you guys have been surviving, but also building real value for your customers and thriving as a standalone company. We have it. But as an ecosystem, where's the thriving going to come from? So I believe the ecosystem, again, there's been continuous development of the ecosystem. It started with people proving that it is able to do things. Then it continued with saying, hey, let's put certain workloads. Now there are some very large users who are understanding that this is the only way to build the cloud. And there is a movement of large operators who are making OpenStack their de facto cloud standard and putting serious money. It became public in December, but AT&T is building AIC, which is AT&T Integrated Cloud, which is meant to be an Amazon size cloud. Over 75% of all the workloads in the AT&T data centers, both on the IT side and on the network side. So not only they're building this very ambitious program, they're doing it out on the open and they have announced it to the world. And now what they're saying is that everything that they've delivered, they're looking to open source and they're partnering with the ecosystem and with the other operators to be able to drive the ecosystem together. And there was an innovation blog published by Sorab Saxena, who is the head of AIC, that says here is the way to do open ecosystems. We're kind of leading in that and we are suggesting that whatever we've done, you guys take and reuse and let's do a user group that does it across all the operators and big players. So complete contribution in the open. Right. All the cards on the table. Correct. Because ultimately what they're saying is we're not really competing in cloud with Verizon or Reliance, right? We're actually partners to make sure that the open technology works better. So the agility and the cost is better. And then we're competing with Facebook, right? That's becoming a new digital telephone company, right? So that's what they're trying to get. Some say government. Well, that could be huge, right, whatever. You can replace the post office. There you go.  It's very true. So they have to innovate faster and they have to do it at the scale and the cost that the hyperscalers are doing it. And unless they do it together, they're not going to have the innovation that's necessary to get it done. So from that perspective, China, mobility, and the Verizon are actually partners. And they're starting a very focused outreach to each other and then bringing other non-Telco players into the mix. And to your point, the stakes are high, right? I mean, the consequences for not doing this are massive. Massive, they're not going to be around for much longer. So they have to do it. It's a forced move, but that will drive further ecosystem development because these guys don't have an agenda to kind of verticalize and lock in because they have products to sell. They're actually trying to disintermediate to make sure that every layer, they keep all the profits so they can be profitable at scale, right? And that is what every operator wants. And now finally, there's a critical mass of operators that are all coming together. So that- So you think the scale thing is their big move? Well, scale and agility. They have to do it fast, right?  You know, Opus Tech is wonderful. Kubernetes is wonderful. It's all great.  Unless you go to Amazon, you can't do it. It takes, you know, three months to provision VM. It takes five months to, you know, to put something from test to production. That cannot last, right? So you have to do it automated and self-service. Continuous. The Opus Tech today is the only game in town to, you know, you know, VMware in some ways, but the model doesn't scale, right? So there'll be others that will come in and augment that story. But that's what's driving those companies to do it. And there's enough of them to start driving the ecosystem. In terms of drive, just a question popped into my mind as we were talking and you were talking about AT&T winner of the Super User Award at the Austin Opus Tech some month back in April. How much has, we're talking about collaboration, the, what, over 600 supporting companies as part of OpenStack Initiative, but how much has it been driven by AT&T as the dominating use case? How much has AT&T driven OpenStack to where it is today? A little bit, but not a lot yet. And they've taken whatever Opus Tech had and they've took a project and made a platform internally and they've incurred a certain degree of technical depth, as they say it. And again, this innovation blog talks about it quite well. And now what they're doing is they're saying, we solved all of these problems. We have a contribution team internally that is now, you know, upstreaming all of that. And you guys, the partners, you know, can use it, but also come and help us. And they're creating a platform so that the reuse will happen. So today they've done, you know, quite a bit of innovation internally that they're just starting to trickle back up, but they are completely committed to my surprise, actually, and admiration that such a large company, they have to change a lot of things internally to allow to, you know, open source things and all that. And they've been going through all those changes and the speed of that change is increasing. So, you know, if they continue on the same path when we're here next year, they will be actually a very huge driver of this whole thing. So how about the tagline for this event, the Unlocked Infrastructure Conference? I noticed that some of the signage, you guys position, Miranda says pure play, you know, open stack. Yes. Kind of tied in there. Obviously, NFD, you mentioned the telcos. I don't want to really go there. It's been talked about for a long time. What is Unlocked, and then second question is, what is the next, you know, 20-mile stair? What's that next horizon? Is it IoT? Is it the big data? Can you share your thoughts on that? Yeah, sure. So Unlocked means that in whatever choices you make when you choose a platform, you don't have a dependency on a vertical stack, right?  They have wonderful products, but you get stuck on their APIs, and when you kind of start moving, you can only buy stuff from Cisco, or EMC, or HP, or what have you. So with this intermediation through an open platform, what happens underneath is obstructed by an API, which means that you can actually take, I don't know, a Cisco router and replace it by Juniper router by Rista router, and so long as they're both compliant in the API, in the Neutron APIs, you can replace them, right? So Unlocked means that you can bring- That's not good for Cisco. Well, but- They want that nestedness. But it's good for the user that has to buy Cisco to run its network. But remember- From a lock-in standpoint. From a lock-in standpoint, right? So then remember the famous phrase that Jeff Bezos is saying, that your margin is my opportunity. So if Amazon is driving commoditization of that space and destroys the margin, and if somebody who competes with, who's born in the cloud digital player that competes with the traditional player that has been disrupted by digital innovation has to pay Cisco margin at scale, guess how long they're going to be able to compete? Right? Both on innovation and on cost. So unless that problem is solved through the cloud movement that we're pioneering or we're ushering in, these companies are not going to be around. So whether you like it or not, whether it's good for Cisco or bad for Cisco, Cisco will have to evolve and change their business model as we're seeing happening across the board. And we're seeing the financial players are taking over some, you're seeing what's happening in Dell, you're seeing what's happening in HPE. And that means they have to change the business model to go away from highly profitable locked-in solutions to a more agile services-based and value-based solutions, right? But that's required for the industry to survive. So along the theme today I've unlocked, OpenStack can't guarantee, right? There's no vendor lock-in. But Morantis does. Talk to us about your zero vendor lock-in product and how has that been leveraged to help you achieve a forex increase in subscription revenue over 2015? You know the numbers, eh?  So, well, we at Morantis, I mean we have a distribution, again, which is a standard, horizontal, disintermediated OpenStack distribution. We don't have any components inside the stack. We don't necessarily provide an operating system. We work with many. We don't necessarily tie ourselves to hardware, but we do certify with all, right? So, and in the early days it was kind of difficult to get big guys like Cisco and HPE and Dell come to us and say we'll certify with you. So the conversation kind of went, okay, Morantis, you're small, we're large. You need our hardware, so go and invest and buy our hardware and you can certify if you want. Now, you start winning some of the large customers. You know, we got AT&T, we got VW, we got Verizon, Shenzhen Stock Exchange in China. And suddenly you start looking around. Most of the buyers who are buying billions of dollars of infrastructure are having conversations with the vendors who are saying, well, it's wonderful. But for this motion, we work with Morantis. So if you're certified by Morantis, great. Go certify and then you can bid for a continuous RFP because we're now not gonna make our decision once every five years, we're gonna run it on a continuous basis. And if you're on the list, you can participate. So suddenly we have a line coming to us of different people underneath and above who want to be certified and we have a sole certification process by which we bring them into the fold. And even our traditional competitors, like helium people have called us because their customers are telling them if you want to sell servers, you have to make Morantis your first class citizen. So we're actually talking to HP around their helium about partnership and becoming part of their story. And, you know, that's actually out in the public domain. So... But the opportunity for you is really the SLA aspect of it, which gives an opportunity for the partners to make their margin. So the opportunity for us is to be able to provide, exactly, to provide a platform that will provide SLA to the operator, to the user. And then, you know, we don't have a preference as to who comes in. If they're certified. If they're certified. Well, I mean, yeah, if they're certified because, you know, there is a bomb issue, there is, you know, all those complexities issue. And so, yeah, we don't want any surprises. So they need to be certified and then they can go in. But the process of certification is fairly simple and can happen in real time. It's not like you do it once and you're locked in for a minute. You can go and re-certify every time you have a revision. And, you know, we make it pretty easy. In fact, a lot of the certification we've put in the community.  So we're trying to not keep it inside Mirantes, but we're trying to push it so you can do it again. Well, it's more efficient that way because the game's changing very quickly. Correct. About like orchestration and containerization. Yeah, we're exactly right. So in fact, the value of containers is not necessarily the fact that you can put them on top of open stack infrastructure. The value of containers and orchestration is the fact that you can use container, well, you can use the container itself to abstract any workload, right? Any part of an application. And then you use Kubernetes as an example, as tooling to lifecycle manage anything, right? So that means that in infrastructure, no matter what you're delivering, you don't have to worry about the actual bits of the application. You can have a standardization across the supply chain. And that's the game changer that's happening. Yeah, you completely take that complexity way around that standardization. Right. And even if it is, it might be an interim step to what may happen, which is all speculation because it hasn't happened yet. I got to ask you a question because one, we've been following you guys and you know, I got to say you and your team, probably the hardest working guys out there. And you know, it's not, it hasn't been easy. You've been had a good business, you've got a good business going on here. And so what have you learned? I mean, what's, I mean, obviously the world's moving in the right direction. So that's a positive. Well, the world is moving in the right direction that's moving, by definition is the right direction.  You don't know, until it's over, you're all adrenaline's pumping. But you know, you guys are working, you're putting the work in and you got a lot of customers and you're doing some great work. What have you learned? What's happening now in your opinion that you're looking for that next paddle, that next turn? What have you learned and what are you looking at? Well, I'm learning that change is hard. And change is hard for us and for the customers as well. And as the world is changing and disruption is happening, traditional business models are being disrupted. Traditional buying patterns are being disrupted, but at the same time, the traditional patterns are still there, right? So it doesn't matter how- Still need up time. Well, yes, but it doesn't matter how visionary you are. You have to be able to solve a problem that your customer is getting ready to solve today. So that means that you cannot have a straight path to, you know, you have this direction, the straight path doesn't exist, there'll be an abyss in the middle. So you have to constantly attack. It's your zigzag, John. Zigzag, yeah. Don't zig when you should be zagging, that's the key to success, right? Exactly, so that's number one. Then you have to work with people, internally and externally, in your own organization and your customers to be able to explain and craft a path. And you have to be able to operate in the state of uncertainty and still make progress because the complexity is large and you can't wait for clarity in order to make the next step. And that's a huge cultural shift, both for us and customers. Just seeing your toes too. Well, that means working hard, right? But it's about being able to make progress in the situation of un-clarity that is not getting easier. Okay, so what are you getting excited about right now? Obviously you're doing a lot of great deals. The Kubernetes deals prior to this event, obviously with the enterprise Linux deal this morning was announced, kind of, you know, you can see the stability. I mean, getting a bulletproof Linux kernel and that's solid, right? That's a big deal. But what are you excited about? I mean, as you look out and that change is still going to be there. Yes, so I think the game changer that happened in the last, you know, 12 months since you and I talked here at theCUBE is that the world seems to be standardizing.  I think the world is now standardizing across the standard delivery vehicle by which container lifecycle management is managed, which means that we think it's Kubernetes. I mean, there are people who are not yet, you know, in 100% agreement, but that standardization is important, whatever that is, because that means that the whole innovation lifecycle management of innovation and infrastructure can now become unified. If it can become unified, you can automate it and you can run it as a service in an automated way. And that means that finally there is a way to provide an Amazon-like delivery model across infrastructure innovation on-prem or on a managed data center. And before it was very difficult to do because everything that you delivered was application-specific and there was no unification. Right now, for the first time I can see a light to say, hey, we can take the innovation of AWS, which is the delivery model, apply it across, you know, with the help of Docker and Kubernetes across any innovation that happens and make it standard. Now that will scale to the size of Amazon. I think we are kind of in the forefront of that moment. And the management software is baked in. Yes. That's the key criteria. Yes, you have to have the management software and we have the components and the industry is going into management so we're standardizing there too, but that finally will cause another zig, or zig, depending on how you want to call it, that will actually have a lot more legs to scale all the way to that nirvana that we're all hoping for. So that could be the key inflection point. Yes, I think we're getting to the point where we can actually see it. So as we're halfway between development cycles, right, with Barcelona, OpenStack Summit coming up with end of October and near Halloween, what's that forecast, what's your predictions as the community, I'll use John's term of the day, zigzags towards Barcelona, what are you expecting to hear and see at that summit coming up? Well, I mean, first of all, I expect the size of the summit going to be probably similar to the previous summit because usually America is a little bit more crowded than Europe, but every next summit is a little bigger than the previous one, so it means we're going to be lateral probably, but it's going to be a lot of new people who are now taking OpenStack and Cloud seriously, who are Europeans and all that, so I expect a lot of new people, new faces that we haven't seen a year ago. The next thing that I see is the container conversation is going to get even more important, and the whole merging of the container and OpenStack ecosystem into one, and the community will have to understand what it is because there is now a lot of splintering happening because some people still see containers as workloads, some people see containers as something that need to be obstructed by OpenStack and some people see it as an underlay, and really all of that will have to come together, and then suddenly when it happens, the next conversation is going to be about the fact that everything is a workload. Infrastructure is a workload, workload is a workload, and there's a unification going on, and you will see conversations happening in all three layers where the visionary people will be making the statements like it just did, and there'll be a lot of darts flying at them, and there'll be a lot of conversations around that. It will be a good contentious debate, which is good. And then others will be still making big progress, explaining how their view that already is accepted is making progress, and there'll be more proof points in the industry, and the spectrum everywhere in between. Any projections on the next Super User Award winner? I have some ideas, but as somebody who is on the board of the foundation, I'd rather not say. Come on, spill the beans. No. Make a prediction. It's confidential, remember. I'm going to put you on the spot, some prediction. I could have made a prediction at AT&T one last year, and I got into an argument with one of the other contenders who didn't win, and I can still see some darts, you know, some scars in my body, so, but maybe these guys will win this time. Sometimes just can't hold the line, you know. Maybe outside of the telecom NFC space. I think we should consider the SaaS players. Maybe it's time that they did something amazing. Okay, there it is. A little bit of leg. We're showing some leg here in the cube, virtually speaking. Alex, thanks so much for coming again, and thanks for sponsoring the cube. Of course. And Miranda, you guys have been great partners at this event, and you're the founding event here at OpenStack SP, and of course, we've covered everyone on one. Thank you personally, thanks for supporting us. Always a pleasure to talk to you guys. We're here, extracting the signal of noise with the CEO of Miranda, also putting on the show with the community, not just the Miranda show, but it really shows the value of OpenStack. I'm John Furrier, Lisa Martin, right back with more of you watching the cube.