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So the life cycle basically is honey, nut, cheerio, cheerio. Oh, get out of here. Hey! How long have you been holding on to that dad joke? That's so good, right? That's like another level dad joke right there. That's not bad, dude. Honey, nut, and cheerio. How do you guys feel the podcasting with the headphones? It's kind of weird. I don't know, dude. I don't know how I feel about it right now. Feel free? Yeah, it's somewhat that, but I'm like, I'm not quite in the zone yet, dude. This might take a few times. Could be that and also the extreme heat that's in this. That could be of a factor too, yeah. My legs are so sweaty right now. There's a sweat box in here, so we'll see. I feel naked. I'm a little greased up on the legs right now, so that's not good. Did you get your lift this morning? I did, I worked out, but I was at 6.30. No way I'll work out in the afternoon. Right now it's hot, dude. It's like 90 degrees. I don't know what you're going to do. What are you going to do? Well, I did it already. I mean, it was hot. I just ended up shirtless by the way through. In front of the wives? No, I wait till they left. All right, I don't want to put too much out there. I had to hear from Katrina. I heard you were prints around with no shirt on yesterday. No, I wasn't prancing around. She took a chance to pick me up. She picked me up and she was like, hey, Justin's looking good right now. No, I was up in the boys' room because it was like blazing hot. It was an inferno in there. I'm like, dude, this can't happen. So we're all shirtless. And then I walked out and then, yeah, then they were there. Adam, you better come home. She caught me. She caught me. I don't know how long I could last. I know. Right now. I want to cause issues. How about you? You haven't got one, obviously. You got home late. Yeah, no, I didn't get home till after midnight. Dude, by the way, too, Salt Lake City, Utah, that airport. Yeah. Worst airport I've flown. Really? Yeah, worst. Why? Well, it's OK. I shouldn't say it because I know people. I think people say JFK is like one of the worst. I've heard Dallas airport's really rough. But I've flown out of Dallas. I didn't think it was that bad. Midway used to be really bad. Yeah, you said in Chicago. I don't think it's not that bad. I haven't flown out of every airport or anything.  And it's the layout of it. Did you get my text where I said it was how long it was going to be until I left? So check this out. Last night, we're leaving. We both are leaving Utah. Doug's going home to San Jose. And I'm coming out here to Reno. And he was A22. A only goes to 25. He's A22. And I'm B5. So we're walking together. Oh, cool. We'll hang out until then. But because we've already flown in and out of here already, I'm like, you know what, I better double check to make sure that even though you're seems like you should only be about seven away from me, which sounds like maybe 50 yards, you know? No, dude, this thing is like, literally, it took me 15 minute walk to get from where he was at. Straight 15 minutes. And it's the only airport where I've seen this too, where up above, it tells you like, seven minutes to here. 10 minutes to here. Yeah, because it's spread out. You might want to go from a walk to a sprint. Yeah, and also, it's actually, and it's a connecting airport. So there's a lot of people that are going north or south from there that are coming from east to west. It's a hub.  One of my flights was delayed. And like half the plane's like stressing out because they know they're landing in Utah. And they know that if they have J and they're coming into A, it's going to take them 30, 45 minutes to get to their side. I hate that. How stressful. Oh, I hate that when you, when the airport, it takes you like an hour to get to your rental car. I hate that. You have to take a train here, train there.   Yeah, you want to run through those. They set their bags down, they sit down. They take a break. Yeah, and that's for speed, bro. And then when there's, that's the turbo lane. Exactly. I ended up skipping all those because I could power walk faster than I could weave through all the people that are doing that.  It's like we were playing Mario Kart and you had those arrows. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. What's the airport that's got all the controversy around it, like the conspiracy around it? It's in Denver. Yeah. What? It's in Denver, all the murals and all the stuff. The conspiracy theorists, like this is their haven because they think that there's some underground. Yes. Like some, it's like secret base or something underneath it as far as I know. It's actually kind of compelling. You guys can take an airport story and transition into conspiracy theories blows my mind right now. Because they got the all-seeing eye and it's like there's weird stuff all over the season. The name of this podcast really. No. Yeah, I know, we're becoming the hub for it, dude. It took us like seven years to find out that Justin and I had this fall. I didn't know that, but yeah, seriously, like I went, like when I was in college, I got really sucked into the whole conspiracy theory stuff just because I don't know why somebody had told me something about like fiat currency. I think it was the first thing and I'm like, what? Oh, that's not a conspiracy. Yeah. That's just like the introduction, you know? And then you start going, but then you have to really like check yourself and be like, well, OK, like is this feasible at all? You got to really like throw away a lot of it and just look at it as pure entertainment. Well, speaking of which, do you guys see, is it McAfee, that's saying his name right? McAfee's girlfriend, got interviewed? Did you see that? No. She's like, I talked to him the day of, I think it was like the morning that he supposedly committed suicide. He was good, everything was solid. We had a plan because we were getting extradited. We knew what our strategy was going to be. She's like, he didn't kill himself. There's no way that he killed himself. That is so crazy. Oh, dude, come on, bro.  How do you reconcile those two very blatantly obvious ones?  I don't understand why it's not like the biggest thing on news that we're talking about, where everybody is trying to get to the bottom. He's controlling the news, bro. They want you to believe. I know. Every time, yeah, you try to explain how things really are. It's like you sound like a whack-a-doodle. As soon as McAfee kills himself or gets suicided, they're like, oh, release the Delta variant of coronavirus. Yeah, thank you. Everybody gets scared about that real quick. Oh, man. Hey, Doug, is your mic turned on over there today? Yes, it is. What did you think of Park City, Utah? I liked it a lot. Did you like it? Yeah, we didn't spend much time in there, but I enjoyed where we were at. Is it like a ski town? Yeah, it's really the first time I've ever been in there. I've been to Salt Lake City before, but I never drove up to, which is only, it was what, a half hour or so from the 40 minutes from the city. So it's not that far of a drive. And then, I mean, now I would relate to like a Bay Area people going up to Tahoe, right? It's kind of like that, right? So, but it's even closer for them. And it's even like more epic with like ski resorts. Now, how frustrating is it when, because I always get frustrated with this when I go other places in the US and they're nice and clean. And then you see these gorgeous houses and then I make the mistake of asking like how much, yeah. How much is that incredibly? Like that 5,000 square foot mansion over there. It's like 20 punches, right?  I was just like, dude. I was actually really, so I was really surprised though by how expensive it was to be anywhere near the Park City area though. Like, I mean, it rivals the Tahoe numbers. So I was like, Jesus. Yeah, I did not, I would, like you're talking about properties that are close to some of these ski resorts that are the price of what properties on the lake are. Yeah, you start getting up for a little mine shaft thing was like five million, right? The four or five million for some of those little ones. Yeah, crazy prices. Yeah, and then I mean, get up to 10. Now, what about the surrounding towns and stuff?  Yeah, so now as you get further out from, you know, either Park City or, so there's like the midway of, and I don't remember all the town's names really well, but if they're midway from Salt Lake City to Park City, there's like some suburbs in between.  A track home, right? It gets you a custom 5,000 square foot three car garage.  Like all their garages are like the 20 foot ceiling ones where you can drive an RV or a boat with a tower in it. They had this one spot that she took us over to that was, dude, there's this, it's probably, I want to say 50 houses or so. And I'll remember, I'll get the name over the next time we talk, but they're in this gated community and it was literally a wakeboard community.  Totally made for wakeboarding to pass down and back. And everybody had their own dock that had its full roof and boats elevated out of the water sitting right outside their house. And these were all like 6,000 square foot houses. Wow. Now, I feel like I read an article, I was trying to find it right now, I can't find it. I feel like there was a house in Palo Alto that just sold. The 501? No, it was like tens of millions of dollars over asking. Did you guys hear about this? It wasn't Mark Mastroff's place. No, it was, I mean, it's a nice house, but it was over asking, like tens of millions of dollars. I was trying to find the article. I did hear about that, but yeah, that's crazy. That's just insane. You imagine you put your house up for sale for $15 million and someone's like, I'll take it for 25. Yeah, it's, you know, though I've been talking to a lot of people since our Peter Letterman episode about like the whole, because I kind of, when I first heard him talk about, what does he call unintended savings or something, I forget what the term he used. Oh, right. So basically the consequences of COVID and being basically locked up for- Especially people who are traveling, so they're saving money. Yeah, there's a lot of people, and since then, because after he's talked about it, I've been like asking more people and I've been sharing that episode. And they're like, yeah, no, that was my husband and I. We canceled our Paris trip this year. We had Disneyland planned with the kids and you started doing math on that, 20, 30, 40 grand. Sure, yeah. That you didn't spend. You canceled down payment on something. Right, and then maybe even more so, if you're that same person too, where a couple probably goes to dinners a couple times a month, you know, so. See, I spent more money. Did you guys spend more or less money? I spent more on junk food. I was ordering more food. I ordered a lot from Amazon, but I don't care. I think I actually saved money, though, overall, because we try, like our thing is going places and doing things, so we've really cut that out. I'm with you. I saved for sure, it definitely- More than you would have. More than I would have. Because like Justin, I tend to, that's like one of our favorite things to do, Katrina and I is to go some random place, stay at a hotel, find a really nice restaurant to eat at. Like that's like an awesome weekend to me, like a two, three-day weekend where we do something like that. But I also, that can deem you for real quick, three, five grand, you know, and those add up. Racks up like crazy. Yeah, so I didn't do that really in COVID. Dude, speaking of junk food and food, did you guys see this new approved? I'm gonna pull it up right now because it's unbelievable. It's one of those things. Okay, do you guys remember? It was like two years ago and there was a medical device that was FDA approved.  Yeah, you guys remember that, right? Inspire assist. Yeah, it was literally a tube attached to your stomach and then when you eat. Medical intervention. That sort of was Inspire Assist, isn't it? Yeah, it's basically, exactly, medical bulimia. You basically puke it out. We're like, oh, this is a great breakthrough. All right, there's a new one. You ready for this? Okay, what do we got now? Okay. A weight loss tool that uses magnets to stop people from opening their mouth. Oh, I saw, I saw a lame post about that. Yes, wide enough to eat solid food has been developed by scientists in order to tackle obesity. Was this invented by Dr. Evil? Magnets. Like, okay. We're gonna use magnets. Are these the dumbest scientists of all time? Like, you invented something to keep someone from opening their mouth?  I saw some people, I saw some people trying to defend it though with Lane and say that it's for a very small percentage of the population that have some condition specifically that they can't control and so therefore they're. They just see things. I mean, no matter how you and Lane said the same thing that I'm sure you guys would say is just, it doesn't matter. They call it Pac-Man syndrome, doesn't matter. Yeah, have you seen the picture of it? No. It's literally, look at that. So they attach one end to the top to the other and then it's like very powerful magnets so you can barely open your mouth. So you can only basically drink your calories. That sounds awful, yeah. And that's a diet strategy that is medical. This is what we're dealing with. This is crazy. It was that due for any of the behaviors. This is insane. Hey, speaking of that and Lane, I saw you tagged him on the artificial sweetener thing. Ty, I didn't read the article. So this was done in vitro and I know that takes him off because it's not a human study but it's another study showing that and there's been a few in vitro studies showing that artificial sweeteners, sugarlose, aspartame, they actually turn normal gut bacteria into, they become more inflammatory and can start to attack, theoretically attack the gut wall. So cause problems. Now there's been several in vitro studies that show that there's some issues with how these artificial sweeteners affect gut bacteria. There haven't been any human studies to show this and that's as big, right?  They're competitors. That's it. I see tremendous value.  But even then it's only when they're competing versus when they go off track and they're not as dying. Well, I remember talking to, we brought this up, I don't know, maybe a year or two ago when I cut off the diet sodas. So one of the things that I noticed was that's when I would keep allowing it back in and because I know it's zero calories, I go from one every few days to one every day. It feels like there's no consequences. Yeah, exactly. Because I know there's no consequences for putting on body fat. I would justify allowing them more and more and you do, you crave them more. The more I drink them, the more I crave them. My cravings come back. Simply by switching over to a brand like Hanson's or drinking the Oli Pops instead that have 35 to 100 something calories, just knowing that isn't enough for me to go like, oh, keep it at bay, I'll just have one. I'm good because I don't want all the extra calories from sugar. It's a natural barrier. It allows you to create better behaviors. And again, in the studies show this, when people aren't controlled, in other words, all their calories aren't controlled, they're just allowed to live normally, which is regular life, and people switch out their regular sodas or diet sodas, they don't lose weight. Because they eat more food. It's just, and you have to just, it's who you're talking to. And I think Lane attracts mostly competitor, like people like that. And yeah, dude, if you're using his app, you know what I'm saying, and you're tracking your food and you're somebody who's like that, then yeah, then artificial speed dial here and there to replace from sugar syrup on your protein pancakes or adding it into your coffee here and there, like, I don't see that as a problem. As much as I see using it as a weight loss strategy for somebody who's 100 pounds overweight has a terrible relationship with food. And then the answer is, oh, let's stop eating, drinking these sodas and move you just to diet sodas. It's like, you're just putting a band there. Yeah, you just see like cause and effect after that. I always tend to see more calories sneaking their way back in. Because it's just part of that whole cattle. You have yet to find a study that's not controlled that shows weight loss. They don't. Only the ones where they're totally controlled on what they eat show weight loss. Otherwise it just, people just don't lose weight using them. They haven't solved anything. When they were first invented, they were lauded as like the solution. Oh my gosh, here's the solution. Now you can have something that tastes sweet with no calories. This will solve everybody's problems. It didn't solve anything. Do you guys remember? They underestimated human meat. We shared the old articles on the sugar as they were advertising sugar as a fat loss. Oh, I remember that. I did. Oh, that was really old. Yeah, yeah, old advertising that sugar is sugar to help lose body fat. You cannot believe them ever.  Do you guys remember that? Bro, I remember actually getting diarrhea from that as a kid. That came out when we were in high school. And it was in Lay's chips. And they had to pull it. They pulled it like after a year. And I'm right. Ain't no leakage. It was the number one. Yes. Oh, somebody was telling me about that the other day. I think it was my sister. Yeah, like they had to pull those chips off the market. I remember even though I was back in high school crushing chips like that. And I remember when those came out, I remember thinking like, why don't you, this was before the news came out. I was getting the shits every time I came out. Damn, I'm losing weight. Yeah, it's working. Because it goes through your body. Yeah, it's in your pants every 20 minutes. It goes right through your body. Little inconvenience here and there, but hey. Disgusting. Anyway, dude, I listened to a very controversial podcast the other day that Doug recommended to us about two weeks ago. It was, what's his name, Doug? Is it Dark Horse podcast? Dark Horse, yes. And it's Brett Weinstein. Oh, it's Brett Weinstein's. And he interviews a doctor and a researcher on who's on the front lines of COVID treatments. And he talks about all of these clinical trials and there's a lot of them. And I looked them up. After I listened to the podcast, I listened to it. I'm like, let me see if these exist. There's a ton on a drug called ivermectin. Are you guys familiar with ivermectin? No, I've heard the name, but I'm not familiar. Yeah, I mean, I listened to part of that podcast. He also was able to go on Joe Rogan's podcast and he had the same conversation because they've already shut down a lot of these episodes that he did. Weird. I saw Rob Wolf just tweeted. I think it was Weinstein just got pulled off of his social media platform. It's so strange to me because there's lots of these trials that have happened. There's lots of this, there's a lot of evidence. They don't have the double blind placebo-controlled gold standard type trials yet, but there are lots of clinical trials. And it's an old drug. It's been around for 40 years, I think. It's an anti-parasitic drug. But in these trials, and other countries are using them, places in Brazil are using them, Africa is using them, places where they can't get their hands on vaccines quick enough. There were some areas in India, I think that were using ivermectin. And the results apparently are remarkable. There was one in particular where there were frontline workers. This is according to the podcast, okay? There were frontline workers and they gave half of them a, I think once or twice a week dose of ivermectin and then the rest, they gave them nothing. And then they let them treat people with COVID to see what would happen. The people who were taking the ivermectin, zero of them got COVID. The other side, the other group, almost 50% of them. How big was the control group? This was, ah, there were hundreds of doctors in this. Oh, there was hundreds. Yeah, okay. I was one of the five and it was like, well, that could be random. Yeah, you're right. No, there's a lot. There's actually quite a bit. It's really fascinating. And then the reason why they think it's not being promoted, because in other places it is, in other countries, is because, and now this is where the conspiracy part comes out, is because in order four, again, this is on the podcast, in order for any drug to be approved for emergency use authorization, which is how the vaccines got, the public got to use them, because they're not FDA approved, right? They got that designation first, which essentially is pushing something forward because there's no other viable treatment. So it's an emergency. I know we don't have enough research, but go and push it forward because there's no, so in other words, if another viable treatment was shown, for example, Evermectin, they would not have been able to release the vaccines through law by emergency use authorization. So they think the reason why they shut it down is so that they could do, otherwise if they show, if they show this is a viable treatment, they wouldn't have been, that's according to the podcast. I thought that was really interesting and very, very fascinating. Well, what is this, Doug? What's the stuff you got me taking right now? Doug gave me some stuff after listening to all that stuff. I don't know if I should say it on the show. Oh, you can't say it? Oh, I can. Doug's got me taking some droppers. It's got so much controversy around it. It's chlorine dioxide. There's a ton of controversy around it and there's a lot of people. That's the thing that I believe people are saying, well, Trump was saying, drink bleach, but it's not bleach. And there's actually a lot of supporting information regarding that as well. And it's a very microscopic dose that people are using, like drops. The tiny drop and I mix it in a 16 ounce water. But I'm sure we'll hear something about that after this podcast. So thanks, Adam. Well, I just want to be real with the audience.  Adam's always good for that. Adam's a trooper, I tell you what.  I trust you guys. You ask after.  And you know what I'm saying? It's true. Yeah, so I trust you in my life. That's true. That's it. So as I feel like you guys do with me, kind of, you know. Sometimes I feel like that's kind of like the mutual. Hey, do you remember that scene? Friends of your pumping iron. Remember that scene of pumping iron when they're interviewing Franco and Arnold? And they're asking him. He's telling him he's giving them bad advice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  He might say, yes, yes, he's very good. But you know, he takes my advice and it's not hard for me to give the wrong advice. I give you the wrong advice. Franco is pretty smart, but Franco is a child. And when it comes to the day of the contest, I'm his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices. I'll call him the day before and I'll tell him the wrong advice is such a great thing. I love that. No, but that podcast was very interesting. And it's weird how controversial it is. How they're shutting it down. I have one that you guys will like that I just shared it with you to listen to. And I don't know how it would popped up and I actually don't listen to Ben Shapiro's show. Oh, is this the one you were telling me? Yeah, but Ben Shapiro and Russell Brandt. And normally I don't like some of Russell Brandt's stuff. And so I don't really follow him much. Sometimes he uses a hundred words when five words is enough. He does. He does. He definitely like. He thinks of himself as being very poetic. And he's delivery.  And he's a lot more words. In his defense, I mean, I actually really enjoyed the episode. I really enjoyed it mostly because of him. I enjoyed the conversation that they had. And Shapiro could be a prick and kind of challenging. And so it was really neat to watch Russell navigate through that. And he does so very eloquently. And I'm sure he's the type of person where you either like him or you don't. And I typically don't really like some of his stuff, but it actually now made me more interested in some of his content and what he's doing. He's got, he seems like a very smart guy. But he's like, what happened with that? I don't know a whole bunch, but from what I do know is he was a drug addict, sex addict, and through spiritual practice was able to help himself. Right, the 12 steps. It's really the 12 steps. And he talks about that in there, because they get into like kind of spirituality talk. And he kind of, then Shapiro's kind of trying to challenge him and pigeonhole him into giving him like, well, what is your ideology or, you know, what God do you follow or what is it like? And he's breaking down how he thinks that the 12 step program is like universal and applies to everybody. And like that's kind of where he gets his spirituality from and it goes through each step. And it was interesting. It was really interesting. I didn't think I would thought it was, it sucked me right in. And then I listened to the whole thing. And you know what I didn't know that Shapiro does, which is a bit annoying as a consumer. Cause again, I don't think I've ever listened to a full episode. By the way, have you ever heard him? Did you ever watch the video of him singing WAP? Remember what it was? Does the most cringewer that you ever see. A word, P word. Like he can't say a bad word in the whole thing. Anyway, it's the most ridiculous thing. And I don't know why he looks like he's 12. That was classic though. I know he's not 12. You know, he does it louder with crowd or does it. Some of these other guys do this where they, he did a whole hour, I want to say an hour and a half or so conversation with him. And then he cuts it. And then you have to subscribe to the daily wire to get the rest of it. That's, yeah. That's a new, that's obnoxious. That's like a strategy that you're seeing a lot. Well, and you're, I wonder how well that does because I've seen that. Yeah, I don't know. The cliffhanger, right? Yeah. Well, it seems to be more popular. Although I don't obviously listen to a lot of left leaning type of podcast. But the stuff that is more conservative, there's for sure they are, it seems as though a lot of them are using the angle of trying to protect myself. So I'm not just on iTunes. And so let's make sure we're capturing some of these people that are actual good customers that help this business continue to just keep going. The people that love me for the content I've been doing. So you can take them to paid platforms you need to. Yeah. They're probably not going to block over 3.99 or whatever it is a month. And now he's at least owned some of his audience versus on, you know, the podcast. You know, we are at the mercy of Apple. And at any time, Apple could say, okay, we want to now charge people to use. Dude, I know a guy who, I mean, just speaking of these social media. And this is something that you need to know if you're going to build a business. Because social media is a great, it's a new way to build business. It's a great way to reach people. And there's lots of opportunity, tremendous opportunity. The barriers to enter the market are really low. The opportunity to reach lots of people that are going to be interested in your specific product or services. So it's tremendous. However, there's one major flaw and that's that you are beholden to their algorithm. And if they decide to shut you down for whatever reason, I know somebody who was literally generating like six figures a month in revenue, Facebook changed the algorithm and it went from six figures a month to three figures a month. That's how big of a swing it made. Simply because they changed the algorithm overnight. And then you got to hustle to figure out how to fix that. I also know other people that on Instagram build their whole business and then one thing goes wrong, either it gets hacked or they get shadow banned for a second, business is gone. So the name of the game is, in my opinion, own your audience or be on lots of platforms. Although even being on lots of platforms might not protect you. I really think that's old wisdom too. It's not new to diversify. I mean, that's all you're really doing. You don't pull your eggs in one basket.  Doesn't mean you should ignore all the other potential ways for you to capture an audience. Speaking of business, Viori, right? So Viori, I've been reading articles on Viori because they are, so for people who don't know, Viori's a company we work with. They make great athleisure wear, exploding. Since we started working with them till now, I mean, how much have they grown? Oh, they're on a rocket ship. How much have they grown? 10X? More?  I know they're in the hundreds of millions now. So they're crushing. They're absolutely crushing. I love what they did too. They were a direct consumer model first, built huge audience around their lifetime guarantee on their clothes because it's so legit. And then they built a solid base. And then after that, then they started to go into Brick & Mores and they go into all Santana Rose, the Hamptons. I forgot that, Joe, about that too. If he's gotten better deals now, you know, after COVID. Oh, I'm sure with COVID. You know, to go back into retail? How smart. Oh, they grew during the whole pandemic. That's why it's so amazing is what a time to double down, right, when everybody's getting scared and losing real estate.   They have a very small footprint, so it doesn't take very much for them to do it. They've already built such a huge loyal base online. Like, I love that company. Yeah, so he actually mentioned us in an article. He got interviewed. Oh, really? Yeah, he did. Because Viori was really smart with podcasts early on, obviously, right? We've been working with them for a while. We were the first to work with them. Right, and a lot of companies still don't realize this. Podcasts have a very high conversion rate. It is still untapped. It's an excellent place to advertise in terms of creating authority. Depends on the podcast, of course, and getting, you know, exposure and all that stuff. So anyway, he got asked, can you speak more to the direct mail podcasts and TV efforts you're working on? And he says, you know, I don't have any many specifics, but I can tell you that with podcasts, we're doing a lot of testing, learning and investing. We found a lot of success with podcasts like Smart Less, which has been great for us. And then we've continued to work with some of our tried and true podcast partnerships like Mind Pump. So I actually mentioned us. Ah, that's cool. In this article. What article was that? This was, let's see, it's IntelliJR, excuse me, eMarketer. eMarketer.com. So they talk about it.  You know, Fortune 500, Entrepreneur Max, Inc. Four, yeah, they've done all that in your time. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, you're on another level. Yeah, well for men's at leisure wear, is so when we did the grand opening and there were people coming in, they're like, yeah, there's no competition for men's at leisure wear, for sure. The women's stuff's also. Well, and women's line's coming up too. It's really competing with Lou Lemon. Yeah, so all right, so you guys wanna hear something hilarious? Yeah. So there's a British-born influencer. So this is an English person. It's making controversy right now. This was in Newsweek. How old? So his name is Ollie London, okay, and they are transracial. So this English, hold up. Is this the whole identify as like something that I'm, you know, like a different race? Yes, so this person. Can we do that? Is that okay? I mean, didn't that one lady get hammered for that? Who was? Yeah, I don't, so I mean, I guess, right? Cause you can identify all kinds of different things. So I mean, if that's how you feel, I don't know if it's different. Okay, so what's happening? So British-born white influencer, Ollie London, has doubled down on their assertion that they're transracial after declaring they now identify as Korean. Wow. So London, who identifies as, damn ad popped up here. Okay.  No, that's Korean. Interesting. Identifies as Korean. Identifies as non-binary, has faced backlash on social media over the past several days. I don't know why that just turned on. Hold on one second.  Yeah, no, that's not what happens. That's not what happens. That's not what happens. Oh God. That's not what happens. That's not what happens. I don't even care for more. Stop. It was a commercial. After saying on YouTube they had transitioned races and cultures after surgery to resemble their K-pop idol. So they essentially did surgery to make them look Korean. I'm sure they got to look Korean. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, so here, I'll show you the picture. I'll send this too. This will pop up in the video. I'm gonna send this to Andrew, the guy who edits us, but that's the kind of surgery to look Korean. I can't imagine this going well. Yeah. So how does somebody, is he born? Where's he lived?  Yeah, but I mean, so does he live in England and he doesn't live in Korea? So how did he find out that he identifies as Korean? I think you see the pop star. He had Korean food and he's like, I really like this. I must be Korean actually. Wow. This is what I feel. I have no idea.  I have no idea.  So do I. Yeah. It's delicious. I think these K-pop fans are like very rabid, you know? Rabid. I don't even know what that is. What is K-pop? K-pop is Korean pop. Justin's heavy into that. Yeah. Yeah. It's huge. It's Korean pop. It's massive. Breonna's really in this. Is that a Gangnam style type stuff? No. It's different. I mean, I haven't really listened to myself. Yeah, I thought that was kind of the answer. Don't flip something. I'm doing the K-pop. I know you and Justin be listening to stuff all the time. I can't tell you all the details. I think it's more like boys to men type stuff. Oh. Really? Yeah. If it's anything like that horse riding exercise equipment that they have. Gangnam style. That's why I thought Gangnam style type stuff. Yeah. I don't think. Again, not an expert. All right. They have great fitness equipment in Korea. Don't worry. We always get DMs. You were telling me about a DM of the day. Oh, dude. I got to tell you. So we got, there's a new word, a phrase that apparently we can't use anymore.   Okay. Somebody sent a message to me and said that that is a homophobic slur. So you can't say it. Cock suckers? Yeah. Although, I mean, women do it too.  That's so good. I don't know. Cock suckers homophobic. You can't say that now. Really? Yeah. So you got to say something else. So we got to think something else. Remember that whole bit? You know what, I'm flexing it out. Yeah. There's an SNL skit. It was like all like cork soaking. And so the whole joke, right? Is the cork soakers, right? Yeah.  And they're all just like, sorkin' corks or air. Sorkin' corks. That's hilarious. Yeah. Never fails. My favorite, though, is when you were talking about the homeless guy outside the studio. They said bum. Yeah, dude. I was like, you can't say that, bro. Yeah, this bum wanted to wash my window.  I don't know. And say, cause it's just, it's too tough, man. I'd rather just ask for forgiveness. Just let it fly and just figure it out. You know what I mean. You know exactly what I mean. So I got something for you guys yet. So you probably, I don't know. You might have even known this already, Sal. But there's like this. Why would you know but not me? Because it's science related.    I said it different now. Sorry, Doug. Doug, I'm trying to be politically crack, OK? Yeah.  It's science really. Dragon man. Dragon man, it's a skull they found in Asia. See, I knew you would know this. You didn't hear about this? It's huge. It's this huge skull. I don't know how many hundreds of years it's been around for a while that they found it, but it like it totally puts a wrinkle into the whole evolution of human beings alongside Homo sapien. They think it belongs to another species of human. Right. Called the Denisovians. Denisovians, yeah. Denisovians. So they were neanderthals? That super accurate carbon dating could help us out with this. I don't know how we could have made that mistake. That could just, whoa, shook up everything right there, huh? I love how, you know, when the artist goes back and has to draw what they look like.  And then the same thing with dinosaurs, they just put feathers on them all of a sudden, you know. Let's try this out. Let's put some glitter on there. Who knows? Right, she's the skin colors and stuff like that. There's like green ones, purple ones. Apparently, so we had neanderthal, which is pretty established. So neanderthals. Then we had Homo sapiens, which is us. And then we had Denisovians. And there were some others. Now, at some point, the Homo sapiens basically mated with and killed everybody else. So we definitely bane neanderthals. We dominated, yeah. Yeah, we did, because we have neanderthal diananas. But then we eradicated the neanderthals. Yeah, so we slept with them, but then we must have killed them all. And then Denisovians. We call them maneuver and we got them out of there. Yeah, Denisovians are gone, so it's just Homo sapiens. So there's all these, now here's my question as to your defense, Adam. It's a different looking skull, right? So like, this can't be a Homo sapien.  I know, because I only found one. Yeah. It's like the craziest whole species around one guy. I've seen people today that I look at them when I go, you're like, that's an interesting looking guy. If he died and we found a skull, it would be like, well, that's a different species. And the skull had like the square eye socket. Like it was in like huge furrowed brows. And it looked pretty gnarly. It's like, and how do you know that wasn't an ape, more of an ape than it was human? I don't know. Denisovians, look it up. Denisovians. Very interesting. I don't know any of that. So there you go, it's a fun fact. Speaking of DNA, one more thing, this is kind of cool. So you know those, these private services that you can do a DNA test and they'll tell you like, oh, you're this percent from this, you know, part of the concept. Which you found out they sold a lot of that data off and got in trouble for that. Oh, well, this is. If you trace back and look into that. This is really interesting, right? So lots of people do this, right? You put your DNA and you say, oh, you're related to this person or this is going on or whatever. Kind of fascinating. Well, anyway, this guy, up loaded or put in his DNA into this private. Was this the mailman guy? I don't know. Oh, okay, keep going. Okay, so he did this and gets arrested because he raped someone years ago and they, the DNA matched the DNA at the crime scene. So this guy put in his DNA for one of these private services, gets arrested for the rape of somebody. Dude. Wait a second, if it's a private service, how do you get that? How do the law get that? That's a good question, I don't know. But you got to rest it over it. So they're like, oh, thank you for your DNA. We caught you, which is kind of crazy. Crazy, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good.  Like we've done those like at home blood tests thing that you send that stuff away. And then now the, the cops DNA was in a hotel. Yeah, I was there once. Yeah. That's a little trippy. I've left DNA all over. I left DNA all over. Yeah, who knows? What are you gonna do? Oh my God, that's crazy. Hey, I hope you're enjoying this podcast. Check this out. We got free stuff that we give away all the time. We actually have free guides, everything from building muscle to burning body fat to becoming stronger, faster, sexier. We even have guides for personal trainers. You can find them all at mindpumpfree.com. So head over there right now. All right, enjoy the rest of the podcast. Our first question is from Alberto Gonzalez 8. What's an ideal split for building muscle mass? Oh, the ideal split. You know, so here's the deal. Of course there's always an individual variance, right? So the one you're not doing. So workouts that are, I'm gonna give some general answers, but of course there could be differences depending on the individual that I'm talking to. But generally speaking, this is true. Generally speaking. And if you ask strength coaches and people who train people to build muscle, a majority of them are gonna tell you that a full body three day split is probably the most effective for most people. I would say seven to eight out of 10 people. So 70 to 80% of people do better, will build more muscle, more strength, get better results, just training full body, Monday, Wednesday, Friday for most people. Other people probably do well with an upper lower split or even a push pull legs type of split. But I still like a two or three days a week of frequency per body part. I think you have to talk about why we are so pro full body though, because yes, the research and most coaches would all say that and agree, but that's just that. For me personally.  Yeah, I just think that there is, one of the things that I, and it didn't, it took me a long time to piece that together and figure this out. It wasn't something as an early trainer. I trained my clients on splits just like I trained myself for most of my career. It wasn't until way later when like the light bulb went off for me. And what you find is that very few people, unless you're a, excuse me, a very competitive athlete where you're being super consistent or you're getting ready to get on stage, most people are going waves. They're consistent for a while, then they're inconsistent or they do really good one week and then one week the only the gym wants or twice. And that type of behavior, which is most people that I've been trained my entire career, they are the majority by a lot landslide by 80 plus percent. Those people do so well with a full body because they still get, they touch everything. At least if you only trained twice last week and you did full body, not a big deal. But you know where you're screwed? You did a split and you only hit back in chest. And that's all you hit. And then you had that same dilemma that everybody has is, oh, I'm starting back up again. Should I start back over or where I left off? And they're constantly playing that game. Or the other thing you see is everybody skips the things that they need to work on or the things that are challenging or that are hard, like they are. That's what I see the most, yeah. People, yeah, it's easy to avoid things you don't like to do quite as much.  And I like that it's more functional. So from a perspective of adding in multiple groups that you're working on for that workout, it resembles more of what's going on in terms of everyday life, in terms of movement, in sports specific type movement. And I know there's some emphasis there where I could really spend some time on getting hypertrophy in certain muscle groups that you're really setting yourself after. But working the total body has just as much effect. So to add to that, let's say you wanna do heavy trap bar farmer walks which are tremendous for building overall muscle and strength. All right, where do you put that in a split? Right, where do you put that? But if you're doing full body, it works just great, right? You wanna drive the sled. You wanna do a circus press. You wanna do some snatches or some cleans. Like where do you put that on a split, right? But if you're doing full body, it works just perfectly. Here's some other stuff too. When you work out, you send in a muscle building signal that's pretty specific to the group that you just trained. So in other words, if I do squats, most of the signal goes to my legs to build. But there's this kind of systemic signal that happens. And when you train your whole body, that systemic signal is much louder. You get a louder overall anabolic signal than you would if you trained half your body or a portion of your body. So this is also why it just tends to build more muscle in a lot of people.  If I'm doing legs on just one day, I'll probably end up throwing in leg extensions, leg curls and all those other things. And by the way, why I like talking about all these things are these aren't the things that come up when you talk about the research and studies. Like they've already done this where they've compared average people and it's superior. Yes. So for most people, so just based off of what the results are, but there's other things that you have to factor in and you know that if you've coached clients for a long time, if you've coached clients, there's so many other factors that play into someone being successful other than the routine, the split that they picked or the workout program that they're following. Yes, yes. And a lot of that has to do with consistency and normal behaviors. And I just think that when you do that, and by the way, like, does that mean I train full body? I'll say, no, I don't train full body all the time. A lot of times I do splits and I break it up and I change that up all the time. But then there's also times in my life when I know I'm struggling with consistency. There's other priorities going on right now. Remember when I first had max, I knew I was gonna be in the gym five days, seven days a week most weeks, I'd be lucky to hit it two or three times. And if I'm gonna hit it two or three times, I'm gonna do full body because I'm gonna get the best bang for my butt. I also like it for this, like if you're doing full body, you're probably doing one, maybe two exercises per body part, right? That means you're probably gonna do squats for legs. You're probably gonna do a bench press for chest.  Like you are picking the best exercises because you're only doing one or two per body part. The frequency's high, right? You can perform it well too. Yes, and again, the frequency's high. You're hitting the whole body three times in a week and you can do that with a split too. So you can go up or lower, up or lower, up or lower, which will do the same thing. But requires five, six days in the gym. Exactly. So in my experience, full body for most people builds, the most muscle gets the best results long-term. Just the bottom line. Does that mean splits can't also be effective? No, they could also be greatly effective. One more thing, by the way, most strength athletes and bodybuilders train that way for years. It wasn't until the late 60s, early 70s where bodybuilders, especially with the introduction of anabolic steroids and the higher doses that they started using, you saw them doing these kind of higher volume workouts, more specific to particular body parts. But back in the day when they were using no steroids or very low steroids, or low dose steroids, I should say, full body, this is what everybody did and they got the best results doing it. The next question is from Maypunk. Should we be lifting to failure each set or should we feel like we can get more reps in with each set? How can I tell if I'm lifting the right amount of weight to make progress? Oh, man. I guess we haven't addressed this in a while. I guess it's been a while. It is, you know, when I was younger, I was under the impression that lifting the failure was essential because you knew if you went to failure, you at least passed the threshold for building muscle or sending that signal. So going to failure, you know you hit that threshold.  I mean, there was a lot of stuff to support the benefits of that, to show what would happen if you ended up training to failure, the extra benefits of doing that. The problem with that, there's a lot of those that research doesn't take into account, like you're how taxing it is on your central nervous system, what you do the next day or two days. How that affects you like multiple days after this. And then yeah, and what that looks like over the course of three to five months, because what ends up happening is, and I'm sure there's lots of teenage boys that do the same thing that I did, which is read an article like that and go like, oh, training to failure gets X percent more built, more muscle because of X, Y, and Z. Okay, every session, every exercise, I'm training to failure using my buddy in a spotter and you're just fried all the time. No, the truth is I got the best results in my life with myself and my clients, almost never trained to failure. In fact, if you look at some of the best strength athletes in the world, they rarely ever train to failure. You look at Olympic athletes, even power lifters rarely go to failure except for maybe competitions. Bodybuilders tend to be the ones that go to failure more often, but even bodybuilders, even if you watch pro bodybuilders, they rarely go to failure. Lee Haney, one of the most winningest Mr. Olympia said, stimulate, don't annihilate. Okay, so these are all opinions, right, and experience. What are the study show? Studies also support this. Going to failure does not produce better results in fact, actually starts to produce less results or worse results than not going to failure. So what's the right intensity? For most people, it's stopping maybe two or three reps before failure. So here's where I see the value of going to failure. Every once in a while, it's good to go to failure so that you know what it feels like and then you know what stopping to rep short of that feels like. That's what I'll do. So I'll go to failure once every three months or six months. Now, okay, this is the intensity that failure feels like. Sort of your barometer or whatever. That's it. A gauge for you to know, okay, here's where my threshold is, but honestly, the least amount of times you're gonna expose yourself to go into failure probably the better. I use it a lot with strength athletes and athletes in general, just to kind of see if the training has been successful leading up to this point. So it's almost like you kind of build up to a point where now you're displaying your true strength and finding out, okay, like how much am I capable of with this? But there's gotta be like, there's significant time after that where they need to recover and then go back to this two reps shy of failure. The other thing that's really negative about training to failure too is it can be very detrimental to your form. So if you're like I was a kid who was always chasing that PR or always trying to put more weight on the bar and having buddy spot him. Can you remember? I know you would have a vivid memory of yourself. Oh yeah. Bits pressing like this to get the weight up and if you're doing that all the time, you're creating bad patterns, bad habits and maybe at 20 years old, it don't bother you right now but that's the type of shit that catches up when you're 30 and 40 years old. Yeah, this is mind blowing stuff that I've been teaching these kids, these high school kids is when we're going through these like compound lifts. It's like we don't wanna perform a bad rep. It's not even worth it. Like it's way better for you to master the technique and hone in on that and treat it as real practice. Every time you're doing the lift, I want you to go down and load until we do it right. So that was something that they just went what? Cause like every other coach wants to just keep loading, loading, loading, what can we do? But it's all slop. Like you said, you have somebody spotting them when they're struggling their way through it and as they're doing their compensating the whole time like shifting their weight to the side and overreaching with their arm. And you get terrible results. You develop an unbalanced physique. You increase your risk of injury. Like I'd like to redefine failure. How about this? Go until your form is about to break down. That's right. And I think that's important that you say that too because when we talk about failure like that being too short, that's like two reps short of absolute failure, but you can cut your rep and I think a better gauge is literally the minute that you can feel your forms about the DVA. Yes, cause it's a perfect place. Yes, cause most people think failure is or at least the way it's defined popularly is I can't do another rep. That's right. No, can you do, you can't do another perfect rep. With quality. Yes. If the second you feel like you can't do another perfect rep, then you stop. And incidentally that probably matches up pretty closely to two reps or three reps short of failure. Yep. Next question is from Catherine Health Journey. Can you explain how too much volume is negative for hypertrophy? Why is doing more exercises or more frequency often considered negative? Yeah, you know, your body isn't, you're not building muscle.  You really aren't. All that's doing is it's sending a signal to the body that says, we need to adapt and get better at this so that this same stress next time is no longer a stress. And so your body, what you want is your body to get stronger and you feel better. And then next time you have to add weight do a little harder workout so you can continue that process. If the stimulus is too hard and it overwhelms your body's ability to adapt all you're gonna do is heal.   Cause your body can only focus on healing. Before your body adapts, it heals. It needs to heal before it adapts. And if you give your body too much volume or too much intensity or too much frequency, just too much in general, your body can't adapt. It's impossible. It's constantly breaking down. So the right dose will get you to the results fastest. Any more than that will get you there slowly. You always give that great analogy on the podcast and you haven't said it in a while so maybe you can share it again is when you compare it to suntanning. If you get tan, so it's more like that than something that, oh, the more I do the more results I get. Yes, yes, a tan is also an adaptation process, right? Your skin is adapting to the stress of the UV rays and it's getting darker so that it can tolerate more. Well, if you've, you know, if you can't... Exactly what happens when you stimulate with muscle. Yeah. You stimulate, the body's adapting by building more muscle to be more resilient because it knows it's going to get beat up like that. You see the same process in building a callus too with the skin. Yes. So that's one of those things. It's beneficial at a certain point because now it allows you to grip the bar, you know, without your skin getting so irritated but there's a certain threshold where if we go too hard it's going to rip off. That's right. And then we start over and we just got to heal. That's right. So the gym is important, working out is important but you go too hard or too long or do too much. Your body can't handle it. It's not going to adapt and all you're doing is breaking down and healing. Breaking down and healing. It's the, what is that? The breakdown recovery traps, like a hamster wheel. I know lots of people like this. It's like they never improve or they improve. I was this way for years. For years I trained because I subscribed to this idea of training to failure. So like every workout, it needed to be, I needed to be crushing it more than the last workout. And so, and it was like how, if I wasn't sore enough the next day, a problem with that was I was never adapting and growing.  So I was hammering myself so much that I didn't even, not only did I not fully recover I also didn't adapt and get stronger. Which is, and a clear indication of this, a real easy way for someone to go like, well, how do I know? Is if you're not, if you're not getting stronger ever, and if you actually see yourself decrease in strength, really common to see that where you have all of a sudden you've been consistent for two months, three months in a row and you're getting weaker one week. Oh, you're overdoing it. Oh, this is a hard conversation though to have. A lot of times because you think about the person that works so incredibly hard. And it's something that they've always done and it's worked out in every other direction. But there's a certain point where just working hard is not gonna do it.  Yes, hard work is very valuable. But boy, you can dig a ditch with a spoon and you're gonna be working real hard. But the guy next to you with a backhoe, he's gonna get there much faster, right? So you gotta do it smart too. Next question is from Jim Gadget. What are some of the fitness gimmicks still around today that need to stop? Oh, fitness gimmicks. The scream is still popular. I can't mention that. And you know what, that's one that's been around forever. You should call it a corset. The Renaissance age or whatever. So here's one that, remember it from early on and it always cycles its way back in. These are these stim machines. Electric stims. They'll put on their abs and say, they're doing a thousand sit-ups while you're at your desk.   No, stim machines, there's a little bit of value to preventing muscle loss. Yeah, I see recovery. I see some value there. Yeah, but to build muscle? No, it's a waste of money. At least if you can't generate it yourself, you could devalue it immediately if you just generate that force yourself. I remember I bought one because Bruce Lee used them. So Bruce, back in, so that's how long these things have been around, right? Bruce Lee would put them on while he was writing and his chest would do the thing and he'd talk about how it's like doing a million push-ups on, well, Bruce Lee does it and I'm gonna do it.   Anything passive is just not gonna work, you know? So that's one. I mean, we're not in the gyms anymore so it's hard, right? I mean, it's been so long since we've been in like a commercial gym to like look around and people, which is one of my favorite things to do is go in the gym and like people watch and we haven't been able to do that in a long time.  Like that's still a possibility. What about the creams? These have also been around forever. They make you sweat, therefore help you burn body fat. Oh, sweet sweat, right? That's one brand. Yeah, and that you rub them on your body and then you sweat a lot and then it's good. Well, cause there's still that association when I sweat, like I'm getting skinny, like I'm getting rid of whatever, like there might be fat that's leaking out with my sweat.  Yeah, it's all slippery. Fat's coming off of me. That's just lard. That's disgusting. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. But it's funny because a lot of these old ones cycle themselves over and over. The stim machines, I swear to God, man, I saw the ads for them in the 1990s and I see the same damn products just packaged. You know what we should do?  Remember that? Yeah. That was hilarious. We should just do that, cause people buy it. Yeah, there's a great video of a black and white video too, so it's like. My grandma had one. Oh yeah, really? I swear. No way.  Oh yeah. It's a relic, but literally it stood up on a, it was like a stand. Like a little belt that goes around you.  And apparently it had a weird byproduct, like it became a really good salsa dancer. That's the only thing that came out of it. Which the turn got you lean, right? That's it. That's why it worked. Yes, anyway. Check this out. Head over to mindpumpfree.com and look at all of our free guides and free giveaways. Lots of free stuff, mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on Instagram, so you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal, and Adam at Mind Pump Adam. In the long term, you get all of your lows. Low energy, low mood, brain fog, or low cognitive ability, and the reason is that it's chronic. And the reason we can say yes in the short term and then eventually long term as well, you've got skin rashes, you've got headaches, you've got allergies, you've got asthma, you've got low mood, you have autoimmune, bloating, gas.


There are very inspiring and exciting things happening at the Pine Ridge Reservation which is home to the Oglala Sioux in South Dakota. This video is going to introduce you to what they are doing to restore resilience, economic independence, self-sufficiency, and cultural revival among the Lakota people. Being in alliance is about being in service to each other and when you're in service it's about a yes of course attitude. Being an ally also means that because I'm committed I'm going to explore further and dig deeper and see whether where the growth opportunity is there for me and if I can actually add value. Everybody loves the cultural native. Everybody loves the ceremonies we share but when it comes to talking about the hardships and the injustices and the reality of what native people deal with on a day-to-day basis that native isn't so popular so being willing to stand next to that outspoken native that isn't always talking about the most popular topics I think that's what makes a good ally. I think showing up as an ally starts with a contextual understanding of not only what has happened but what is happening and I think it's really important to remember that this isn't past tense and these injustices are happening every day and we're actually seeing them unfold for people like we're seeing this healing happen for people within the camp to this very day. People don't have clean water, they don't have running water, they don't have good food, they don't have housing so they're just really in this mode where they can't think about like intergenerational trauma and epigenetics and really hard to heal something when it's like like you get a wound and it scabs up and then someone keeps coming and like ripping it off and it's like you know it's ongoing it's not like it hasn't stopped yet it's been going on for like 500 years since then we've been like in survival mode trying to just survive and it's hard to really focus on anything else you know like building happy communities and having healthy relationships with your children. It's just the willingness to help you know the willingness to ask questions when it's appropriate showing a respect for the culture for the land for the spirituality for the people if you treat the earth in a good way the earth will treat you in a good way and it's just a mutual respect is what it is really. Right now we've got the second annual IWPS convergence we had one last year and the convergence is really our event to bring together folks who are working on these different projects who have these skills around natural building gardening and to just come together in community to really show the power of community and what the interrelationships can create. We have people from all over the world all nations converge on Pine Ridge and then we have community-based projects that they help to implement on Pine Ridge. I'd say that this year we're really deepening our relationships and we're also spreading to support these food distribution networks across the reservation so it's not just one site anymore this has now become the tool hub for the reservation and we also have other places where they are creating gardens to heal emotional trauma. There are a lot of residents who come over to folks from other reses and we make it very accessible we'll cover fuel costs whatever it takes I mean it's free for all native folk to really showcase what's happening here to demonstrate it and to use this energy to activate and mobilize our projects moving forward as well. We work on low-cost alternative replicable models that any family can implement with a little bit of help across the reservation so we build with tires and a lot of industrial cast off and junk basically. People approach us and say we have a piece of land and we want to do this for a family and then we go out and take a look and if we if it's within our ability to help them to do their project then we partner up on it and figure out a way to get the funds necessary to get things together. This is our experiential farm or place to do builds and experiments and then see if they're replicable if they're economic enough to use here on Pine Ridge and we're all food producers the hope being that we can put a dent in our food desert here. When I heard the term permaculture and that was many years ago and I said what the hell it's nothing but white people and they're going around the world and they're you know they're taking the best practices of all the indigenous nations and they're putting in a package and then they're saying oh look what we invented permaculture look at this but really as as my brother's here mentioned it's something that the indigenous people have been doing for thousands of years. All this permaculture knowledge that we have we're just trying to reiterate all of it because we are like I most of you know our ancestors have been doing this for thousands of years. My family we used to cultivate and we used to plant and it was communal it's huge practically the whole community came to plant these enormous fields we practiced crop rotating everything we had more than four corn fields and we would plant these fields like in three days and then of course during harvest that was distributed to everyone when we plant corn we plant seven seeds one is for us one is for family one is for the animals one is for the birds one is for everyone one is for the earth that's how we plant. As we move from this egocentric colonialist ideology back towards this indigenous ancestral knowledge that is egocentric that as we move through that transition we all recognize and forgive our part in the equation and that we actively work towards embracing our humanity reaching out to each other and recognizing that we all are part of the same tribe humankind. I didn't want anything to do with it until I came here and I saw how lovingly that the permaculture crew touches the ground but you know the important thing among our people is to show up and to show that you mean what you're saying and that you're going to walk your top. The incredible work of everyone at the Pine Ridge Reservation and I hope you are as well. I would love to see you support them in their mission there are links in the description to learn more to get involved and support them so make sure that you do that and if you want people to see this and to be inspired by it make sure to like comment and share this video and if you haven't already make sure to subscribe to this channel where there will be many more videos to come. I love you all very much and I hope that you will go out there and make positive change and be a part of this movement for a better world.


Hey everybody, Dr. O here. Let's talk about fats or triglycerides. So there are other types of lipids.  So why is it called the triglyceride? As you see here, it has a glycerol backbone and three fatty acid tails, so triglyceride. The glycerol backbone is actually useful as a fuel. We primarily talk about the fatty acid tails and I'll teach you later when we get to metabolism about how these long fatty acid tails are digested and broken down for fuel. But the glycerol backbone can actually be converted into glucose in a process called gluconeogenesis. If you run out of glucose in your body, it has to start to make some and it uses this gluconeogenesis. Most that comes from proteins. Your body can turn proteins into glucose, but you also can convert the glycerol backbone into glucose too. So that's kind of what makes glycerol important, I guess. Those fatty acid tails are where we're going to spend most of our time. So notice that they are hydrocarbon tails, they're full of carbon and hydrogen. There is some oxygen there, but that's going to be in a functional group on the end. You don't see a lot of oxygen, which is the reason that fats have nine calories per gram, whereas carbohydrates only have four calories per gram. Carbs have a lot more oxygen, which is big, much bigger than carbon and hydrogen, so you can't cram as many calories into a gram of carbs as you can fat. So fat's going to be the most energy-dense thing we consume, nine calories per gram. Very important fuel at rest. So fat, there's a lot of energy in fat, but it burns pretty slowly. I always think of it kind of like a log on a fire, right? You're going to get fuel from that for hours and hours, but if you need quick fuel, like you're going to need dried kindling, newspaper, that's like carbs. Carbs are going to be quick energy. So carbs are your primary fuel source when you're physically active, but fats, like these triglycerides, are going to be your primary fuel source at rest. All right, let's go ahead and dive in. So the first thing I think about when I think about these fatty acid tails is their length. So there are different types of fats based on length.  And I'll do a separate video where we talk about some of the very long chain fatty acids. Short chain fats, I primarily think of dairy products, butyric acid or butyrate is the best example here. So there is some of this in things like butter and cheese, that type of thing. The organisms inside your large intestine actually make some of this. This is butyrates the primary fuel source for the cells of your large intestine. So short chain fats are important, but not a big part of the diet. Medium chain fatty acids, I like talking about these. They're also called medium chain triglycerides, and maybe you've heard of MCT oil or medium chain triglyceride oil. Another place where you're going to find a lot of medium chain triglycerides is coconut. So coconut, coconut oil, MCT oil, they've been touted as being healthy and great for athletes, and there's a good reason for that. They're a good energy source. Your body can burn these medium chain fatty acids easier than the long chain fatty acids. It actually can convert them into ketones. So when you consume MCT oils, your ketone levels will go up, and ketones are a great alternate fuel source. The other cool thing about the medium chain fatty acids, they don't need bile. They're absorbed into your bloodstream. They don't need bile to be carried into your body, so they're going to be absorbed a lot more quickly, and they're going to be used as energy. So I think medium chain fats are a great energy source. I keep my bottle here. I'm not sponsored at all, but I consume MCT oils, and I think they're very good for your brain. So those are the medium chain fats. But when we're talking about fats, unless I specifically say short or medium chain, they are the long chain fatty acids that we talk about primarily. So let's go ahead and look at that. So chain length is the first thing I think of when it comes to fatty acids. Next is going to be their saturation, so I'm sure you've heard terms like saturated fat. So this is going to be what a fatty acid tail looks like. We just talked about length. So now we're going to talk about saturation. Before we move on, notice here on the left we have the omega end of a fatty acid tail. That term is going to be important in a little while, because we're going to talk about omega 3, omega 6, and omega 9 fats. That omega number tells you where the last double bond is. So we'll come back to that. That's why the omega end matters. Let's start with saturated fats.  So saturated fats are called that because they're saturated with hydrogen. Every carbon has as many hydrogens around it as it can, which is why there are zero double bonds. So the key thing to note with saturated fats, no double bonds. You see a double bond there on the left, but that's a functional group called the carboxyl group. In the tail itself there are no double bonds. So because they don't have double bonds, they're straight. Notice how the double bond in the oleic acid underneath there causes that kink in the tail. So since all of the tails on saturated fats are flat and straight, they're going to stack together, which is why saturated fats are solid at room temperature. So those are the two key things to remember right now. Saturated fats have no double bonds, zero double bonds, and they're solid at room temperature. Butter and lard would be great examples of foods that have a lot of saturated fats, but don't be fooled by that. Lard actually has as much as many mono and saturated fats as olive oil does. It's kind of complicated. So here we see if you have one double bond, this will be a mono and saturated fat. Let's go back to that other picture. So oleic acid, which is very high in olive oil, is gonna be a mono and saturated fat. So these are very good for you. A lot of health benefits to mono and saturated fats, but that kink makes it so these tails can't stack on top of each other. This is why mono and saturated fats are liquid at room temperature. So olive oil is a liquid at room temperature. Lard would be a solid. So that's gonna be your mono and saturated fats. We'll cover all the health benefits stuff later. Then here, if you have a fatty acid that has more than one double bond in these tails, they're going to be poly and saturated fats. These will also be liquid at room temperature because they have these kinks in the tails. A lot of your plant oils are going to be your poly, have a lot of poly and saturated fats in them. So looking at different types of fats here. So we talked about saturated fats, usually being animal fats and then some of the tropical oils, unsaturated fats. We have the mono and saturated fats. The first thing most people think about would be olive oil. I like to like avocados and avocado oil are a great source of mono and saturated fats, nuts like almonds as well. Then we have the poly and saturated fats. They're gonna be the omega-3s and the omega-6s. We're gonna do a separate video on those two because they're so important because they play a big role in inflammation and these kind of things. Now I'm gonna go back if I would say one thing just about how the biochemistry here has links to health would be these double bonds. Anywhere you see a double bond, these are fragile parts of fatty acids where they're more likely to be oxidized. So the more double bonds a fat has, the more likely it is to be oxidized by free radicals and potentially be rancid. So from a health standpoint, what I recommend is if you have a fat that's high in saturated fats, you can probably keep it two, three years. They're very stable. If you have a mono and saturated fats, I generally recommend not using them if they're more than six months old because these double bonds are fragile and over time, heat, oxygen, light, these things are gonna create these free radicals that will damage the fats and make them become rancid. So I go two, three years probably good for something that's really high in saturated fats, six months for things that are high in mono and saturated fats like olive oil, and then three months for things that are high in poly and saturated fats. And I can talk about that more when we talk about the omega three and six fats. So that's a brief introduction. I know it's kind of long, but there's a lot to talk about here. A brief introduction to triglycerides or fats. I hope this helps. Have a wonderful day. Be blessed.


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Hey you guys get ready with me for a Sarah moaning or like celebration of one of my high school teachers I haven't seen her in like 10 years, which is crazy I thought I would do a little get ready with me in my car vlog because like honestly I don't think I've ever filmed one of these I think it'll be kind of fun and if I don't talk I could always just speed up the clip But I am just gonna do like natural makeup like my normal everyday look I hope that it turns out good because I haven't like really done my makeup in my car before I think maybe one other time. Yeah, we'll see how this goes I always do my eyebrows first as you know because I just find them to be hard and I can always like fix stuff like Erase if I need to but so far they look alright I'm so happy I kind of got out of work like a couple minutes early because I Really wanted to have time to like do my makeup and stuff because I haven't seen You know this lady in like 10 years, and I want her to like I don't know like I just want to look Presentable, you know like my best version of me So I brought my nice perfume because I want to be smelling good and then I also brought my beauty blender and I always have like a bottle of water at work So I refilled the bottle of water with like water from work like I don't know It's one of those reusable waters like I know this water is clean So what I'm gonna do is what the beauty blender? I hope no one like comes outside Once I said that someone was like literally walking you probably saw her. She's probably like oh my gosh So I got the beauty blender a little bit wet and now I'm just applying Okay, the beauty blender could be a little bit more wet. I might have to like Rewet it also. Sorry guys. I haven't been posting that consistently like I always love getting two videos up But it's just so hard because like honestly, I love a good like lazy day and honestly last weekend It was super rainy and stuff So yeah, I've just not wanted to vlog when it's like been all rainy and stuff I know that's no excuse and like I should vlog, but I honestly didn't do a thing which Makes me sound like horrible, but it's true. Oh my job. I'm just like kind of drained so like I don't want to Vlog that's basically what I'm saying and I just keep repeating myself because it's true and I hope that this like Foundation is blended well because it's gonna suck if it looks weird. Yeah, I don't know man Okay, every time I try to wet this thing someone always like pops out of the woodwork. It's kind of awkward But whatever well then again, it's five o'clock. So people are getting off work I think it's blended enough because I don't really have like a full Mirror, but it feels like it is Next it's gonna be flush I did want to thank you guys though for all of like the love and support I've gotten on my recent videos Because they've been so much fun to make and like put together and like watch back on those memories And it seems like you guys really like them too.  I've gotten you know a lot of likes and Everything and okay, I guess I'll talk about what's next. I never know what is next when it comes to the face Oh powder Luckily don't need the sponge for that I will kind of talk about like why I don't talk about my job like being a surgical tech a lot on my channel And that's just because like I don't want to become like I never want to become niche I want to keep work and like my passion like this doing videos and stuff separate like I don't want to mix the two because Even though I like my career and everything. I do want to make a full video on like Expectations versus reality of like being a surge tech because Their word like there are differences and like what you would expect going in to be a surge tech And I want to make it with one of my friends I think Kyra because we were both like talking about like all different types of stuff So that's definitely gonna come in the near future probably like after I've been a surge tech for a year because I don't want to like make judgments, you know after Like only a little bit of time So I just want to like have all the experiences well not all but like being by myself being with preceptors Like all of that before I like, you know Make a full video on it in a sense Maybe the video will come before then but I don't know I just like to keep everything separate and stuff and if you subscribe to me because of like surge tech Thank you so much, but like I'm not gonna be making a lot of videos I guess I'll do some bronzer today because of why the heck not if you have subscribed to me because of Surge tech and stuff like thank you so much But I'm definitely not gonna be like doing a whole lot of content on that if you do want more Content on like surge tech and like seeing photos and stuff I do post as much as I can on my Instagram story so you guys can follow me there It's just the same username on here like Alex Jane underscore Because I do post photos and videos from my job and everything but like to make full videos and stuff It's just too much like there's a lot of stuff like obviously you can't film I'm still new like I can't be doing that.  Hello. I shouldn't have done this. I think if I had like the funds I would get my eyebrows professionally done like every month or every other month I think it would just be a lot easier Then we'll put the little eye Brow Joe. I honestly can't believe that it's been like 10 years since I graduated high school It's so crazy, man. I don't know how I feel about it Okay, the eyeshadow at least in this lighting doesn't look that hot, but it's the best I can do The eyebrows turned out the best I think It kind of sucks too because my friend Kyra Um texted me and was like, oh, what are you doing tonight because apparently it's like margarita day or something So she was like, I want to go get margaritas and I'm like, oh man I can't because of this like awards banquet thing It's basically like just like a celebration of the award I don't think like the presentation is going to happen there.  It's a little different I don't know. I like to throw different things on the channel. Okay. I think the eyes look okay Okay. Yeah, there's someone's like walking by and talking kind of loud Overall, I think this is good. So I'm gonna do lips when I get there Um, but I'm just gonna set my face real quick. I'm almost out of this. It's the morphe setting spray I'm gonna need to get some more But I absolutely love this. I've had this for forever and then My perfume I only wear this stuff like when I wear makeup essentially because I like it and it's nice and like strong It's not like a wimpy perfume. So I love it. It's the tom Ford tobacco vanilla Done with that and then I'm gonna put on my shoes. I'll show you guys So I'm just wearing these shoes. This is the same outfit I wore for like my surge tech graduation. So I kind of like thought about that after the thought Which kind of sucks, but it's fine. Um, I'm gonna like kind of brush out my hair. My hair lasted actually like pretty good Considering that it was in like this hair net thing all day.  I haven't brushed it out since Last night because like I didn't want the curls to flatten out. So I didn't brush my hair at all until now pretty much Even like when I wrapped it up because of work and stuff. I didn't brush it out or anything I just like knotted it up and then I like put it in a bun and then with this like loose hair scrunchie Because I didn't want it to like get too flattened and honestly, I think it like looks really good. So Oh, hi, okay. This side's a little flattened, but that's because like this part I think was the part that was like wrapped more I don't know when I put up my hair for work. It's like I kind of just shoved in so that's the finished look And I'm pretty proud of it I will do lips and stuff when I get to the event and I'm gonna like try to rinse my hands off And put my shoes on and then wipe them off with like this towel. All right onto the next clip Okay, so with Jaylin say hey and then the Ready?  She's a staffer. Of course. 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Here's your host, Jeff Frick. Hi, Jeff Frick here with theCUBE. We're at the VM Women at VMWare. Little side presentation running concurrently with VMWare 2015. Great presentation, panel discussion, and we're really excited to be joined by Sheryl Chamberlain, longtime CUBE alum, huge advocate of women in tech, and an esteemed panelist. Welcome. Thank you, welcome you. You should be here with us. Thanks for coming. We're here. That's where we go. So we met the first time ever we met. I was really talking about women in tech years ago at EMC. So talk about just kind of the evolution of the advocacy and kind of the escalation of people really grabbing hold of this issue. Yeah, to me, it's really about male advocates. It's always been about male advocates. If you think about the work that I was doing at EMC, all the programs that I had was about leadership and innovation, and setting the stage for what that is, and then realizing that it's not about just women, but recognizing it's about the partnership that we create with men. So when I would invite people to any of my events, I never told them that it was a women's program, but it was run by me and all my women friends, and you showed up to that as you do now. But now it's more about, it's more formal that males and men and the men in our community are the advocates that are taking this forward. That's how it's changed. Yeah, well, and I think part of it is the language of business, which is ROI. And clearly the studies show out that the diversity of opinions are going to give you more innovation, different points of view, different ways to solve a problem. So it's kind of neat that it's about women in equal opportunity, but it's the bottom of the line. It's about business, and if it wasn't, it wouldn't happen. I agree. But if you really think about what innovation is, it's about men and women working together from different backgrounds and different skill sets, different areas that they've worked in in their lives, and then bringing that together into the innovation that we're driving forward. I mean, I said this on stage, I'm an accountant, maybe not. I'm an auditor, maybe not, definitely. But all of these skills around what I do today in technology are related to the past experiences that I've had and how I bring this forward into what we do. So really, I think I was always in sales, but didn't really admit it. Well, we're all in sales. We're always been in sales. If you're not in sales, then you need to get yourself in sales. But you talked about taking the big swing, and I love some of the stories. I actually learned some stuff on the panel about really putting yourself out there and getting out of your comfort zone and taking a chance. So A, where did you learn to do that? And B, how do you help others who don't necessarily have that innate desire or ability or they're afraid to say, take that big swing, take a gamble? I have to say that I learned it from my father. When I was a little girl, maybe four or five years old, I'd say, hey, I wanna play and he'd say, I don't need to go play with you. Here's a ball, go to the park. If you have the ball, other people will wanna play ball with you. You're in charge because you have the ball and that's how you start to build the relationships. So for me, it was the sense that I could go anywhere that I want to and because I have the idea that I could bring the idea forward and bring other people in. But it has to be the one that's thinking about what we could do together and it's not what we do alone and that's what the new leadership level is. So that's really how I look at it. But also I just get very excited about doing things different than I've done before and I'm not afraid to challenge myself in those new places and that's what we need to teach other people is. If there's something that you're interested in, take a spot on a team that's already doing that so you're recognized as one of the players and then as being a player, people will believe in you because they know that you're there. Make sure you have a voice that you're not just on the team quiet, that people hear you and they know your point of view. So those are a couple of things that I could share. Well, and the other thing like you talked about is when you do new things, it's scary but you get on a steep learning curve and that's really when you have the most fun in your job and your career and anything is when you're on a steep learning curve and new things are coming all the time but you got to take that risk, you got to jump in. That's right and the steep learning curve is what keeps you fresh and alive and that's where the energy comes from. If you really think about it, it's what we're doing differently today that keeps us focused on what's possible. If you just do the same thing all the time, day in and day out and you're not learning, I don't know if you're really alive inside yourself. Well, the other thing we talked a little bit about with Lori a few minutes ago is there's bias and we're all biased for functions of who we grew up with and here we are, right, we've lived but we can change behavior and I thought that you had a really specific suggestion on the panel that people can adopt and that's to ask open-ended questions and listen and who knows what you might find out. That's right, well that's innate for me because I started college when I was 16 years old so I'm here, this very young person trying to learn from the world around me so I realized that by asking questions that people would teach me and that they would also be part of that community or that team that was teaching me and taking me forward so it is that sense of asking questions and having people be part of the world that you live in, like we are together, that's what makes a difference. And listen, right, that's why you have two ears in one mouth you're supposed to use them in that proportion which a lot of people don't quite get. So the last thing, you talked about paying it forward and really what does that mean to pay it forward?  How does that make you feel when you get an opportunity to kind of help some of these younger folks coming up? Yeah, paying it forward actually is what I prefer to do than paying it for myself but paying it forward you actually build a community around you of people that whose lives that you've touched, you've given them some direction, you think through what they're doing and it could be anything from a LinkedIn profile and looking at it when they're looking for a new job and say, well, the photograph that you have there doesn't represent you or looking through a little bit of information and then calling them and saying, I know this is what you wanna do but can you just tweak it a little bit and saying it a way that they learn and they don't feel that you're overly analyzing what they're doing, you become a partner and then sometimes those people move above you or beside you or around you so paying it forward creates the community and the power of the world that we live in. And it's good if they move up. Andry Brian Lilly at Equinex and he keeps track of all the people that have worked for him that are now CIOs and it's almost like he rings the little bell when a new one gets promoted. So Cheryl, thanks for taking a few minutes, great panel and as always, great to see you. Thank you, good to see you too. Absolutely, so I'm Jeff Frick, we're at the VM Women at VM World 2015, the side panel, I'm Jeff Frick, you're watching theCUBE, see you next time.


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