From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of AWS re-invent Executive Summit 2020 sponsored by Accenture and AWS. Everyone, welcome to theCUBE virtual coverage of the Executive Summit at AWS re-invent 2020 virtual. This is theCUBE virtual. We can't be there in person like we are every year. We have to be remote. This executive summit is with special programming supported by Accenture. We're theCUBE virtual. I'm your host, John Furrier. We had a great panel here called on cloud first digital transformation from some experts, Stuart Driver, the director of IT and infrastructure and operates at Lyon, Australia. Douglas Regan, managing director, client account lead at Lyon for Accenture. And Sadiq Islam, associate director, application development lead for Accenture. Gentlemen, thanks for coming on theCUBE virtual. That's a mouthful, all that digital, but it's cloud transformation. This is a journey that you guys have been on together for over 10 years to be really a digital company. Now, some things have happened in the past year that kind of brings all this together. This is about the next generation organization. So I want to ask Stuart, you first, if you can talk about this transformation that Lyon has undertaken, some of the challenges and opportunities and how this year in particular has brought it together because you know, COVID has been quote the accelerant of digital transformation. Well, if you're 10 years in, I'm sure you're on that wave right now. Take a minute to explain this transformation journey. Yeah, sure. So a number of years back, we looked at kind of our infrastructure and our landscape and trying to figure out where we wanted to go next. And we were very analog based and stuck in the old IT groove of, you know, capital refresh, struggling to transform, struggling to get to a digital platform. And we needed to change it up so that we could become very different business to the one that we were back then. Obviously, cloud is an accelerant to that. And we had a number of initiatives that needed a platform to build on. And a cloud infrastructure was the way that we started to do that. So we went through a number of transformation programs and we didn't want to do that in the old world. We wanted to do it in the new world. So for us, it was partnering up with great organizations that can take you on the journey and start to deliver bit by bit incremental progress to get to the, I guess, the promised land. We're not all the way there, but we're a long way along. And then when you get to some of the challenges like we've had this year, it makes all of the hard work worthwhile because you can actually change pretty quickly, provide capacity and increase your environment and do the things that you need to do in a much more dynamic way than we would have been able to previously where we might have been waiting for hardware vendors, et cetera, to deliver capacity for us. For us, this year, it's been a pretty strong year from an IT perspective and delivering for the business needs. Before I get the Douglas, I want to just really quickly redirect to you and say, you know, for all the people who said, oh yeah, you got to jump on cloud, get in early. You know, a lot of naysayers like, well, wait till to mature a little bit. Really, if you got in early and you were paying your dues, if you will, taking that medicine with the cloud, you're really kind of peaking at the right time. Is that true? Is that one of the benefits that comes out of this, getting in the cloud? I mean, John, this has been an unprecedented year, right?  And then we also had some cyber challenges which is public as well. And I don't think if we weren't moved into and enabled through the cloud, we would have been able to achieve that in this year. It would have been much different. It would have been very difficult to do. The fact that we were able to work and partner with Amazon through this year which has been unprecedented and actually come out the other end and we've delivered a brand new digital capability across the entire business. It really wouldn't have been impossible if we could, I guess, stayed in the old world. The fact that we were moved into the new, enabled by the new allowed us to work in this unprecedented year. Just, Will, what's your personal view on this? Because I've been saying on the Cuban reporting, necessity is the mother of all invention and the word agility has been kicked around as kind of a cliche, oh, be agile. You know, we're going to get to Siddiqui in a minute specifically, but from your perspective, Douglas, what does that mean to you? Because there is benefits there for being agile. And I think as Stuart mentioned, right? And a lot of these things we try to do and typically, you know, hardware capabilities are the last to be told and always on the critical path to be done. You know, we really didn't have that in this case what we were doing with our projects and our deployments, right? We were able to move quickly, we were able to make decisions in line with the business and really get things going, right? So a lot of times in the traditional world you have these inhibitors, you have these critical path it takes weeks and months to get things done as opposed to hours and days. And it truly allowed us to, we had to, you know, rejake things, move things. And, you know, we were able to do that in this environment with AWS support and the fact that we could kind of turn things off and on as quickly as we needed. Yeah, cloud scales, great for speed. Siddiqui, I got to get your thoughts in this cloud first mission. You know, the DevOps world, they saw this earlier, they're jumping in there, they saw the agility. Now the theme this year is modern applications with the COVID pandemic pressure. There's real business pressure to make that happen. How did you guys learn to get there fast? And what specifically did you guys do at Ascension? And how did it all come together? Can you take us inside? Kind of how it all played out. All right. We started off with, as we do in most cases with much more media looping, and we worked with Lyons functional experts and the last knowledge that allowed the infrastructure to be had. We then applied our journey to cloud strategy which basically revolves around the seven hours and the key steps from our perspective were assessing the current environment, setting up the new cloud environment. And as we go modernizing and migrating through these applications through the cloud. Now, one of the key things that we learned along this journey was that you can have the best plans but legacy environment that we were dealing with, we often did not have to make changes work a lot of agility and also work with a lot of collaboration with the Lyon team as well as AWS. I think the key thing for me was being able to really bring it all together. It's not just the Accenture team or the Lyon team or the AWS team. It's all of us working together to make this happen. What were some of the learnings real quick? Learnings real quick. From here. Any there? Any there? Any there? So I think some of the key from our perspective the key learnings around that when we look back at the infrastructure that we were trying to migrate over to the cloud, a lot of the documentation et cetera was not available. We were having to figure out a lot of things on the fly. Now that really required us to have people with deep expertise who could go into those environments and work out the best ways to migrate the workloads to the cloud. I think the biggest thing for me was making sure we had on tap real SMEs across the board globally that we could leverage across various technologies and that could really work in our collaborative and agile environment with Lyon. Stuart, I got to ask you, how did you address your approach to the cloud and what was your experience? Yeah, for me it's around getting the foundations right to start with and then building on them. So you've got to have your process and you've got to have your infrastructure there and your blueprints ready. AWS do a great job of that, right? Getting the foundations right and then building upon it and then partnering with Accenture allows you to do that very successfully. I think the one thing that was probably surprising to us when we started down this journey and kind of after we got a long way down the track and looking backwards is actually how much you can just turn off, right? So a lot of stuff that you get a left with legacy in your environment and when you start to work through it with the types of people that Sadiq just mentioned, the technical expertise working with the business, you can really rationalize your environment and cloud is a good opportunity to do that, to drive that legacy out. So a few things there. The other thing is you've got to try and figure out the benefits that you're going to get out of moving here. So there's no point just taking something that is not delivering a huge amount of value in the traditional world, moving it into the cloud and guess what, it's going to deliver the same limited amount of value. So you've got to transform it and you've got to make sure that you build it for the future and understand exactly what you're trying to gain out of it. So again, you need a strong collaboration. You need good partners to work with and you need good engagement from the business as well because the kind of digital transformation, cloud transformation isn't really an IT project. I guess fundamentally it is at the core but it's a business project that you've got to get the whole business aligned on. You got to make sure that your investment streams are appropriate and that you're able to understand the benefits and the value that you're going to drive back towards the business. Stu, if you don't mind me asking what were some of the obstacles you encountered or learnings that might have differed from the expectations? We all been there, hey, you know, we're going to change the world. Here's the sales pitch, here's the outcome. And then obviously things happen.  Okay, let's put some containerization around that. Cloud native, all that rational you're talking about. What are, and you're going to have obstacles. That's how you learn. That's how perfection is developed. How, what obstacles did you come up with and how are they different from your expectations going in? Yeah, they're probably no different from other people that have gone down the same journey, if I'm totally honest. The, you know, 70 or 80% of what you do is relatively easy because they're known quantity.  It's the other stuff, right? It's the stuff that always gets left behind and that's the challenge. It's getting that last bit over the line and making sure that you haven't invested in the future while still carrying all of your legacy costs and complexity within your environment. So to be quite honest, that's probably taken longer and has been more of a challenge than we thought it would be. The other piece I touched on earlier on in terms of what was surprising was actually how much of your environment is actually not needed anymore when you start to put a critical eye across it and ask the tough questions and start to understand exactly what it is you're trying to achieve. So do you ask a part of the business, do they still need this application or this service? 100% of the time, they'll say yes until you start to lay out to them, okay, it's now gonna cost you this to migrate it or this to run it in the future and you know, here's your ongoing costs and you know, et cetera, et cetera. And then for a significant amount of those answers you get a different response when you start to layer on the true value of it. So you start to flush out those hidden costs within the business and you start to make some critical decisions as a company based on that. So that was a little tougher than we first thought and probably broader than we thought. There was more of that than we anticipated which actually results in a much cleaner environment post-migration.  You know, you want to automate, that's the key thing of cloud and you got to discover those opportunities to create value. Stuart and Sadeek, mainly if you can weigh in on this, love to know the percentage of total cloud that you have now versus when you started because as you start to uncover whether it's by design for purpose or you discover opportunities to innovate like you guys have, I'm sure it kind of, you took on some territory inside lying it. What percentage of cloud now versus start? Yeah, at the start it was minimal, right? You know, close to zero, right? Single digits, right? It was mainly SAS environments that we had sitting in cloud when we started. Don't mention earlier on a really significant transformation project that we've undertook and recently gone live on a multi-year one.  In terms of what we can move to cloud, we're probably at about 80% or 90% now and the balance of it is legacy infrastructure that is just going to retire as we go through the cycle rather than migrate to the cloud. So we are significantly cloud-based and, you know, we're reaping the benefits of it in a year like 2020 and makes you glad that you did all of the hard yards in the previous years when you started with that business challenge you're throwing at us. Siddiq, any comment, reaction to the cloud percentage? Penetration? Sorry, I didn't catch that, but all I was going to say was I think it's like the 80 to 80 rule, right? We worked really hard in the, you know, I think 2018, 19 to get 80% of the application onto the cloud and over the last year is the 20% that we have been migrating and asked to accept, right? A lot of it is also that's going to be retired. And I think our next big step is going to be obviously, you know, pricing on the cake which is to decommission all these apps as well, right? So, you know, to get the real benefits out of the whole transformation program from a reduction of CAPEX, all things specifically. Douglas and Stuart, can you guys talk about the decision around the cloud because you guys also had success with AWS. Why AWS? How's that decision made? Can you guys give some insight into some of those thoughts? I can start off, I think back when the decision was made and it was a while back, you know, there's some clear advantages of moving with AWS. A lot of alignment with some of the significant projects and the particular one big transformation project that we've alluded to as well. You know, we needed some very robust and just future proof and proven technology and AWS gave that to us. We needed a lot of blueprints to help us move down the path. We didn't want to reinvent everything. So, you know, having a lot of that legwork done for us and AWS gives you that, right? And, particularly when you partner up with the company like Accenture as well, you get combinations of technology and the skills and the knowledge to move you forward in that direction. So, you know, for us it was a decision based on, you know, best of breed, you know, looking forward and trying to predict the future and needs and kind of the environment that we might need and, you know, partnering up with organizations that can take you on the journey. Yeah, just to build on that. So, obviously, you know, Lyon selected AWS, but, you know, we knew it was a very good choice given the skills and the capability that we had as well as the assets and tools we had to get the most out of AWS. And obviously our CEO globally has just made, you know, announcement about a huge investment that we're making in cloud. But, you know, we've worked very well with AWS. We've done some joint workshops and joint investments, some joint POCs. So, you know, we have a very good working relationship with AWS. And I think one incident to reflect upon was the cyber incident, again, where we actually jointly, you know, dove in with Amazon and some of their security experts and our experts and were able to actually work through that with Lyon quite successfully. So, you know, really good behaviors as an organization but, you know, also really good capabilities. Yeah, as you guys, your Accenture cloud outcomes research shown, it's the cycle of innovation with the cloud that's creating a lot of benefits. Knowing what you guys know now, looking back certainly COVID has impacted a lot of people kind of going through the same process. Knowing what you guys know now, would you advocate people to jump on this transformation journey? If so, how and what tweaks did they make, what's changes, what would you advise? I might take that one to start with. I hate to think where we would have been when COVID kicked off here in Australia and, you know, we were all sent home. Literally, we were at work on the Friday and then over the weekend and in Monday, we were told not to come back into the office. And all of a sudden, our capacity in terms of remote access on a quadrupled or more five X, what we had on the Friday we needed on the Monday. And we were able to stand that up during the day Monday and into Tuesday because we were cloud based. And, you know, we just spun up new instances and sorted out licensing, et cetera. And we had all of our people working remotely within effectively one business day. I know peers of mine in other organisations and industries that are relying on kind of traditional ways and getting hardware, et cetera, that were weeks and months before they could get the right hardware to be able to deliver to their user base. So, you know, one example where you're able to scale and get value out of this platform beyond probably what was anticipated at the time you talk about, you know, elasticity and all of these kinds of things. And you can also think of a few scenarios, but real world ones where you're getting your business back up and running in that period of time is just phenomenal. There's other stuff like this, these programs that we've rolled out, you do your sizing. And in the traditional world, you would just go out and buy more servers than you need. And, you know, probably never realised the full value of those, you know, the capability of those servers over the life cycle of them. Whereas, you know, in a cloud world, you put in what you think is right. And if it's not right, you bump it up a little bit when all of your metrics and so on tell you that you need to bump it up and conversely scale it down at the same rate. So for us with the types of challenges and programs and just business need that's come at us this year, we wouldn't have been able to do it without a strong cloud base to move forward with. You know, Douglas, one of the things I talked to a lot of people on the right side of history who have been on the right wave with cloud with the pandemic and they're happy, they're like, and they're humble, like, well, we're just lucky. You know, luck is preparation meets opportunity. And this is really about you guys getting in early and being prepared and readiness. This is kind of important as people realise that you got to be ready. I mean, it's not just, you don't get lucky by being in the right place at the right time. And there are a lot of companies who are on the wrong side of history here who might get washed away. This is a super important- I think to echo and kind of build on what Stuart said, I think that the reason that we've had success and I guess the momentum is we didn't just do it in isolation within IT and technology. It was actually linked to broader business changes, you know, creating basically a digital platform for the entire business, moving the business where they're going to be able to come back stronger after COVID, where they're actually set up for growth and actually allows, you know, line to achieve its growth objectives and also its ambitions as far as what it wants to do with growth and whatever they might do with acquiring other companies and moving into different markets and launching new products. So we've actually done it in a way that there's, you know, real and direct business benefit that actually enables line to grow. General, I really appreciate you coming. I have one final question if you can wrap up here. Stuart and Douglas, you don't mind weighing in. What's the priorities for the future? What's next for Lion and Ascension? Christmas holidays, I'll start Christmas holidays. It's been a big year. And then a reset, obviously, right? So, you know, it's figuring out what we've transformed, what we've already transformed, if that makes sense. So we've got a huge proportion of our services sitting in the cloud, but we know we're not done, even with the stuff that is in there, we need to take those next steps. We need more and more automation and orchestration. We need to have our environment as more future proof. We need to be able to work with the business and understand what's coming at them so that we can, you know, build that into our environment. So again, it's really transformation on top of transformation is the way that I'll describe it. And it's really an open book, right? Once you get it in and you've got the capabilities and the evolving tool sets that AWS continue to bring to the marketplace, you know, working with the partners to figure out how we unlock that value, you know, drive a cost down of our efficiency up, all of those kind of, you know, standard metrics. But, you know, we're looking for the next things to transform and show value back out to our customer base that we continue to, you know, sell our products to and work with and understand how we can better meet their needs. Yeah, I think just to echo that, I think it's really leveraging this end-to-end digital capability they have and getting the most out of that investment. And then I think it's also moving to and adopting more new ways of working as far as, you know, the speed of the business is getting at the speed of the market is changing. So being able to launch and do things quickly and also be competitive with, you know, an efficient operating cost now that they're in the cloud, right? So I think it's really leveraging the most out of the platform and then, you know, being efficient and launching things quickly with the business. Sadiq, any word from you on your priorities by you see this year unfolding? Yeah, so I'm just going to say like key learnings first, right? For me, around, you know, just journey, this is a journey to the cloud, right? And, you know, as both Doug and Stuart have said, it's getting all, you know, different parts of the organization along the journey from business to IT, to your product vendors, et cetera, right? And it takes time, it is tough, but, you know, you've got to get started on it. And, you know, once we finish off, it's the realization of the benefits. Now, you know, looking forward, I think from a lion's perspective, it is, you know, once we migrate all the workloads to the cloud, it is leveraging off-stack, right? And as I think Stuart said earlier, with, you know, the latest and greatest stuff that we're not afraid of the US, it's basically working to see how we can really achieve more better operational excellence from a cloud perspective. Well, Stuart, thanks for coming on with Accenture and sharing your environment and what's going on and your journey. You're on the right wave. Did the work. You're in the, it's all coming together even faster. Congratulations for your success. And I really appreciate, Doug, for coming on as well from Accenture. Thank you for coming on. Thanks, John. Okay, this is theCUBE's coverage of executive summit at AWS re-invent. This is where all the thought leaders share their best practices, their journeys, and of course, special programming with Accenture and theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, your host. 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Hello everybody, E here, welcome back to another book review. Today we're doing something completely off the wall, and we are going to be talking about Quantum Leap the Novel. I'm just as confused and excited and shocked as you maybe are. If you don't follow me on Instagram, or you didn't back then, I scored, let's put this one aside for now, I scored a total of eight, eight to begin with. I scored these, plus the one I just held up, and then I went back again and found this one tucked away, either someone tried to hide it, I don't know, but it was tucked away behind some other books, and I finally found that one. So I have eight in all, and I have, as of right now, I have on order book number two, because I have book number one, book number four, so on and so forth, I have big, it's a chair y'all, it ain't my, you know, but there's some holes in my, there's some holes in my collection that I just started collecting on a whim. Anyway, so the first time I went to the library and got the first eight, it was a fill, a bag of books for a dollar, I brought a trash bag, I'm not sure if you see some, seen some of my book hauls, where I talk about that, I made out like a bandit, anyways, this was one of those times, and then the other one I actually bought for a quarter, the one that I bought by itself. But I was stuck, I was in a reading rut, stuck reading The Talisman, and a, something, an ARC called The Obsolete's by Simeon Mills, neither one of these books are going anywhere for me, so I put them on pause, and I just happened to open this up and started reading. I read this in a total of three sittings, a total of maybe 10 to 12 hours roughly, I blew right through this, this was so much fun, I was a huge fan of the original television series, in fact, now that I've read this, me, my wife, my, and my sons, they're, we're all watching it on Amazon, it's on Amazon Prime, IMDB free drive, which basically, it's basically like regular television, if you have Amazon Prime, you can watch Quantum Leap with commercials, just like back in the day. But we've started that, we're already on episode six, we're watching two episodes a night, we're loving it so far, it's been so long since I watched it that I'm getting back into it, I don't remember anything from the original series. It's not part of the original series, it is Canon, so you have Sam, Al, Tina, Gushy, Gushy, there's something, there's a, sorry, I got this one mustache hair that's driving me nuts, but Gushy in the book, I think the last name is Gushman, but they spell it G-U-S-H-I-E, in the TV show, what is it, sorry, I just saw a fly over there, in the TV show, it's Gushy, G-O-O-S-H-I-E, so there's a little bit of a difference there, but Al and Sam are the same exact characters in the book as they are in the TV show, it's just like watching Scott Bakula and Harry Dean Stanton, is that right? I'm not sure, should have done my research. There's also something a little bit trivia for those of you who enjoy things like that, I'm a bit of a nerd about things like this, so someone tweeted out to me that they had found some also, and they tweeted, one of the books that they tweeted was this cover, but it was called Quantum Leap Carney Knowledge, you know, a play on carnal knowledge, it's the same exact book, I looked it up, I did a deep dive into it, but this one was first, the person on Twitter said that maybe they changed it because Carney was a derogatory term, that wasn't the case, this one came out in November of 1992, Carney Knowledge came out in March of 1993, so this one came first and then they changed it, I guess because they decided to keep on going with the series, now Ashley McConnell who wrote this one, I haven't done a deep dive on her yet, I want to read the next one and see how I like that and I'll talk more about her in the next video, whether or not I like the book or not or considering continuing on with the series or not, I'll let you guys know in that video, but McConnell wrote I think the first three or four books and then it was pretty much passed off to a whole slew of other authors, the novels, some of them are, from what I understand, some of them are direct adaptations, novelizations of the series shows, so you would get basically it's just a novelization of what you've already seen on the show, this one however is a standalone story and I think all of Ashley's, Ashley McConnell's books are standalone, but I'll get back to you on that one next time, like I said I love this book, I loved every bit of it, the thing that I liked the most about it was the deeper dives into Al's character, we get some of his misogynistic womanizer ways in the show and the more I watch of that, the more I'll be able to tell you how well they do on that and whether or not they go into it more in the show, but in this one you get a really really deep dive into why Al is the way he is, the reason why he cheats all the time, the reason why he's a womanizer and misogynistic, that kind of thing. There's also less of a religious aspect to the books, there's also a very heavy theme and in fact let's go back to that for a second, the religious aspect, because I was I was rather shocked when I started watching the television show, a lot of the stuff in there, it was very very weird because you have this heavy Christian maybe even Catholic mindset, yet you're dealing with a character who's having to travel back in time to fix something and if God is infallible and he can't make mistakes, why does he have this guy running around? He almost treats Ziggy like Ziggy is God, but he also references like the sky, he talks to the sky, talks to the sun, you know that kind of thing, but also he's always talking about you know God's will, all this stuff. In the book that's pretty absent, at least in this one. There is a strong theme of misogyny throughout the book and I'm not talking about there's a lot of misogyny in the book, talking about there's the main character, the main female character is treated basically like a child and she's fighting her way trying to be respected which is complete opposite of what the television show is like and I'm wondering if it's because the writer here was a female, I would suspect so anyways and I'm not sure who wrote the first couple episodes of the TV series but I know the guy that created it was Donald P Bellisario, but it like in episode I think it's either five or six, it's a cowboy themed one, they're basically going to be auctioning off this daughter of this rancher to whoever can beat her at cowboy stuff and I was thinking okay she's gonna prove that she's just as much of a cowboy whatever cowgirl, she's a better at cowboy, whatever you want to call it, better at being a ranch hand than the guys, but no they pretty much you know put her in this role like you know you have to give in to your female ways and your places to get married and have kids so she ends up falling in love with Sam or you know she ends up falling in love with one of the characters anyways, but that's the TV series, this is completely different because this woman is fighting tooth and nail trying to get people to respect her and she it's coming from all different aspects and sometimes it's warranted that what I mean warranted is there's one person trying to talk some sense into her and she's being hardheaded because everybody else treats her like that so she has a reason to act like that so it's believable as far as the character is concerned but then you have these other jackasses who's like you can't do this you're a woman I should have control that kind of thing I appreciated that aspect in the book and I'm hoping that continues throughout the series of novels I'm excited y'all I don't know if you can tell or not I am extremely excited to find a I love this TV series and I love to read so these two things together like it's a dream come true for me but have you guys read I haven't heard from anybody yet that I know who has read these books I know some people who went out and search them out when they saw me post pictures of these things on Instagram people are going out and paying stupid amounts of money for them considering what I got them for of course and I even with the one that I ordered book number two cost me five bucks so I mean even I'm going and spending well above what what I paid for the rest of it I paid more for that one book than I did the entire series so far it's funny how you do that though you find something you love you know cheap and then you just dive into it wholeheartedly that's what like used books are for you know you find that you find you test the waters for a cheap price and then you go and you spend money on the actual thing I don't think you can get these new so the only way you can get them is used anyways I'm not sure they're on Kindle I'd have to check on that also if you guys want a deep dive into this stuff if you enjoyed this video please let me know down there in the doobly-doo but until next time I have been E you've been you this has been another book review I'll talk to you guys later bye


Start streaming. Turn on the merits, especially with all this bad weather. You never know. You saw there's a ton of power outages in Brooklyn. You know, I've never had a power outage. I've never had one in my current apartment. I've never had a power outage. I think maybe once the UPS went click, click, maybe, but like very many, many years ago, even during even during the hurricane, the big one, I had power the whole time. I threw my UPS away. I actually don't have any. I never actually even, even though I have shitty spectrum, I don't even remember any long internet outages except for when like the shitty router they gave me busted. Every internet outage we've ever had was our, the router failing and having to be replaced. I wouldn't know if there was a telephone outage because I don't use the telephone. There have been water outages when they had to fix it in the street recently, like a month ago. Yep. I've never, I haven't had that. We had that a couple times during the day. We had a couple of those during the day. So, but that was 10 years ago.  The elevator goes out. That's what happens. I think we're good to go city. Oops. I don't want to play that audio. Okay. It's Wednesday, August 8th, 2018. I'm rim. I'm Scott and this is Geek Nights tonight. City, the Manga by Keiichi Arari, the Ditchy Joe guy. Is it a guy? Yeah. Keiichi sounds like a guy's name. Keiichi? That's a guy's name. Arawe. I assume Arawe is the surname. It's not, wouldn't it be Arawe sound or something? Japanese, you switch it in. Yep. Here, let's see what this page says about. You wouldn't name it. He was born and raised in Gunma. He grew up in some other place. He went to this high school. Gunma, that's an initial deterrent. No. I'll keep this up. All right. Oh, we already got a bunch of people watching the stream. Go away, people. All right, sad Piro. It's not sad Piro. So I said, oh, nobody listened. No one can consume my heart. No, Piro didn't say go away. He also said no one can consume my heart. It's bad. I'm bad. I'll burn my art books so no one can see them. No, that's not what I want to do. That's completely different. I'm saying you shouldn't waste your time. I'm making this just because I want to make it. Then why even, why do we publish it? Why don't we just make it? Why don't we just sit here and not record anything and just do it? Yeah, sure. That sounds okay. All right. You said you have an eye-opening bit, so I go for it.  Like you do. Sometimes you can get a whole, but you know, to save money, I want to get breakfast that I can have at home and just wake up and eat, not have to stop and get an expensive bacon, egg, and cheese every day, right? Yeah, so as much as I would think that, as much as I like things like yogurt and stuff for breakfast, I pretty much want a hot breakfast. I'm not going to make a hot breakfast at home. No, so, you know, I got, I got some pancake mix. I got some, sometimes I buy some English muffin. Yeah, pancake mix, that's a weekend breakfast. That is not a Tuesday breakfast. I can actually just make a few pancakes. You're not going to do that before you go to work unless you work from home. I do it anyway.  Sometimes I'll go for some cereal. So where I work, we have like the cafeteria with snacks and stuff, but in the morning there's that gigantic cereal bar with like 10 different cereals and a lot of people eat cereal for breakfast with their milk. But anyway, so the cereal that I like is shreddy wheat because it's nothing but wheat. What are you, 90 years old? Shredded wheat is awful. It's great.  Is it at least the frosted shredded wheat? No. Why would you eat shredded wheat? It's delicious. It tastes like nothing. Tastes like wheat. Yeah, nothing. You don't like cream of wheat either. No, cream of wheat. Cream of wheat. I think you just don't like wheat.  I think rim just doesn't like wheat. Wheat is excellent if converted into something like bread. It converted into a hard biscuit or into a watery mush. Yeah. Hard biscuit is fine. Hard shredded wheat, not fine. That's a biscuit anyway. There is a world where someone would call that a biscuit. That is not a biscuit. To me, a biscuit is the most primarily of butter and fat. First of all, it says biscuit on the box, right? Because there's two versions. I could take a poop in a box and write the word biscuit. There's the one with the big one and the one with a lot of little ones, right? The big one that it says right on the box, big biscuit. I don't like that one. I was about to say, if you like that one, that's even worse. You got to get the ones, a lot of small ones. And it's the grocery store next to me doesn't have it. I got to go far away to get it. And I don't want to.  Right. And granted, like for comparison as a kid, the cereals I ate were the Nintendo officially branded cereal. So just sugar in a bag. I need a lot of jars, but I really only ate the marshmallow. Sugar in a box. Okay. And frosted flakes. So actually I found that the cereal with the most sugar per gram is Honey Nut Cheerios, which is one of the cereals that I would eat. Yeah. There you go. But actually I used to really like sugar crisp. Yeah. I like which was renamed what golden crisp. I don't know. I like corn pop was this sugar cereal. I most sugar cereals I would not eat. I usually ate cinnamon toast crunch was my jam in high school. That's what I would eat. That's what I would eat. If those were like, it was like the only sugar. Have we ever done a show on cereal? Maybe, but whatever the point is. So I went and I looked at all these healthy looking cereals that looked healthy on the box. That's our next Thursday show. We've never done a show on all these healthy looking brands like Kashi and whatever the fuck. Right. And all these series of look at the box. They look super healthy.   You know what that's like? It's like this is no better than the lucky charms. That is like when you try to get like a fruit juice and you look at it and it's actually just concentrated apple juice and flavor. Right. So it's like all these healthy looking cereals are just sugar. So I'm like, all right, fine. I'll just get a rice crispy. It's rice plus fire. But no, even rice crispy has some sugar in it. I. So there was a time when I would eat rice crispies every morning. I like rice crispy. Yeah. It's like you get some banana in there. Yeah. And then you'd have a little meat rice crispies. Adorned. Never on a door. Yeah, I put it in there. Not going out and going out.  No, I put a raisin in the shredding. Just one raisin. No, just one raisins. That you don't eat. You don't eat those either. I like raisins. You don't eat raisins. I don't. So I take issue with the fact that 99% of the time When I see a cookie that from a distance is chocolate chip, and I find out that it's oatmeal raisin I'm disappointed. Oh, the raisin is delicious And I actually like oatmeal cookies without raisins and the more than I like oatmeal raisin cookies anyway I do like raisins. I go to buy the rice krispie. It's a little box of rice krispie They didn't have a big one and it was mad expensive.  Why is it like five dollars this tiny box of rice krispie inflation?  There were two levels of the low rent cereal There was bottom shelf cereal that usually was in boxes or big bags and Had names that evoked the names of real cereal, but then there is one step lower There was the giant trough so you could just scoop it into your own bag. I didn't see that anyway So yeah, I see the off-brand rice krispie in a bag and it's way cheap compared to the real rice krispie All right Was it worth it because I'm assuming you bought it and you tried it and had less sugar than the real rice krispie So it's probably worse. It was pretty much just right just and it didn't even have high fructose corn chip The ingredients were literally just like rice, you know and crispy and Chris right had some sugar But not near not as much as the actual name brand rice krispie.    Right, why did I fall for the marketing of the snap crackling pop dudes youth naivety and Classism right so give up your your whatever pride or whatever you can trust the cereal in a bag However, I would argue that far superior to any form of cereal would be the shredded wheat or the cream of wheat Would be just like the bagel with a couple of eggs and some bacon. Oh, yeah That's great, but that costs four dollars a day Whereas the bet the cereal in a bag is like two dollars and as I said I'm gonna last you a whole week What? Regardless of how much two dollars a week or four dollars a day back when I was pretty poor I was willing to sacrifice most things in my life to have a good hot breakfast.  Maybe once or twice a week. Maybe once every other week You know, I still would rather pay two dollars a week total Yeah, I will say though that lately. I pretty much my breakfast is like two bananas Well, now you get a banana a crispy in some or sometimes a banana one banana one plum like that's good breakfast So yeah in some news since it's Wednesday anime manga comics. What do you got? So I don't know if people realize this if you don't read underwear perfect comics, right? But fantastic for has which was Marvel's like the first Marvel Universe comic was fantastic for people Don't I don't have many people don't know that or do whatever, right? Like the Marvel Universe didn't even exist until the human torch met Namor, right? At some point that was like when it became a universe before that it was just separate heroes But yeah, the fantastic for it was like the first Marvel comic and it ran super long And then some time ago it disappeared and not only did the comic disappear But all the characters disappeared from pretty much every Marvel thing and the story goes that basically the Crazy, you know nut job owner of Marvel studio, you know, whatever, right? You guys got bought by Disney, but he's still the owner Chief of Marvel who basically doesn't seem to do much He just sort of an owner like the editor in chief of Marvel's who really makes the comic book decisions handed down some decree like no more fantastic for because They didn't have you know, even when they didn't have the movie rights So he felt like they were this is just a story, right? He felt like Marvel comics were giving free advertising to someone else's movies someone else's stuff Which honestly makes sense because the market the core market for actual floppy comic books pretty tiny You're gonna only gonna make real money by selling the movies So they so they did stuff in the story to basically make the fantastic for go away. So you wouldn't see those characters anymore And such But now they're back because why well Disney which bought owns Marvel That 21st century deal with that's gonna finish probably next year and then they will own the fantastic for again So they got to get the hype up because they're gonna, you know Bring it in probably one or two years from now You're gonna see some fantastic for Marvel universe stuff happening in anyway I don't know. It's hard to say if I care or not. So the thing with Fantastic Four, right? It's like they're not like my favorite heroes, right?  They are very simple one could say elemental well But the thing is if you read the old comics, they're hella corny, right? As underwear pervert comics of all old underwear pervert comics are corny the special thing about Fantastic Four, right? Stanley and Jack Irving is that it is not quite dr. Strange level of psychedelic But still sort of old crazy sci-fi Twilight Zone ish in a way, right? It has those vibes going on The other comics don't really have that sort of you know pulp sci-fi stuff going on Well, like venture brothers has like their superhero stuff in that universe and it's basically the fantastic for and it's like that Fits with the like super science genre, right?  I'll hit you you little guy From this sci-fi story that also comes sort of intertwined and like your brain as you read them Sort of splits them apart like a DNA coming apart in two strands Right, so it's very easy and many people have in more recent times You know made fantastic for stories that don't have the corny part But at the same time like to be fair if I really want like a trippy far out sci-fi story I'm gonna read like a culture book or something. Yeah, you can do you know, whatever It's not that it's not exactly that kind of sci-fi, but anyway So fantastic for number one. I think comes out today because it's Wednesday, right available on August 8th for purchase Yeah, okay. I was right Wednesday is comics day came out today. It's written by Dan Slott I've seen some rumblings online that like maybe Dan Slott is a bad guy But I don't know why because I've only ever seen him being a good guy He I think I mentioned this before that I found out that he wrote the red and stumpy comic That was awesome when I was a kid and he also is like any any Dan Slott comic I've read has been sort of that really Light-hearted and fun, but still really good like the kind of thing that a kid could read and connect with but also an adult Can read and you know it sort of you know lifts makes the kid feel like he's smart, you know And it's still you know the kind of that's the kind of feel like the matrix made a lot of people feel very smart about Baby's first philosophy Right, but you know it's you know the more like it's fun, but it's not stupid fun It's it's somewhat intelligent, but still like there's something there like a like a Saturday morning cartoon that you can appreciate You know like a dexter's lab kind of level maybe even a little more than that, right? That's the kind of stuff he writes and Yeah, so he's writing this new Fantastic Four So maybe is gonna be good. I feel like we're gonna have to review it. We can't avoid it Maybe I'm not gonna buy the issue You don't buy comic issues. It's 2018 I would say you don't buy comic issues. It's 1998 But yeah, but apparently from what I've heard is that you know since the Fantastic Four like been missing that in the first issue It doesn't get them back together yet So it's sort of like it's almost a zero issue and not a number one issue. Ah, I did I Really have a hard time with well, let's start over again like that I think it more explains what happened to them since you haven't seen them in so long Oh, but I don't care about that either I almost would want a new Fantastic Four to just start in media res with yeah, here's the Fantastic Four and let's just go They're doing something. Well, the problem is is like, you know, I think they were like all in different places Yeah, you know, yeah, I do something like more recent spider-man stuff. We're just like, you know who spider-man is We're just gonna have a spider-man story You know spider-man like, you know Peter Parker's company is like in the Fantastic Four's building or something Because they're not there anymore So in some other news, if you didn't know Otacon, which is no longer in Baltimore and we no longer perform at Is actually this coming weekend There's supposed to be a nazi rally down the street Yeah, so the news here is one if the nazi rally is happening and you're going to otacon You should go counter protest the nazi rally and go to otacon Don't just do one bring make sure your cosplay includes, you know rocks or something to throw at them Yeah, uh, do not cosplay as a nazi No But that's generally good advice anywhere. Not just if there happens to be a nazi rally nearby It's still weird though like to this like we don't go to at this point In gig nights. They haven't been otacon in nine years. We don't perform. We went to two three four five We went to eight otakons until a few years ago. We had done more panels at otacon than it packs Like we went to eight otakons and there's been A lot since we stopped going there have been nine that we haven't gone to but more importantly We used to attend and perform at a lot of anime cons And we're actually at a point where we neither attend nor perform At any anime cons not any pure anime cons Yeah, at least currently there are no anime centric conventions that we attend or perform at in any capacity Uh anime boston is still fantastic. Like it's a great convention. It's the best anime con I can think of but One it's in a cold part of the year and two the security in boston means that I basically don't want to ever go to any convention in boston I'm even annoyed at going to packs east because of that security but uh Even though we haven't been to otacon in a long goddamn time. I don't want to go to otacon I definitely don't want to perform at otacon I still get weirdly nostalgic when I think about otacon because we went to a lot of otakons and spent a lot of time there So, yeah, it's this weekend and I guess if you're going I'm curious how it goes because since they moved it seems like a lot of the but like almost no one I know goes anymore either to perform or just to attend So I like don't know what the state of otacon is If you want to go to an anime con that we might go to though Anime nyc is coming up in november. It does not overlap with packs. Meaning we can actually go to it There's a good chance. We're gonna actually perform at it and do some panels. We're still working that out We just take the subway over yeah walk around look around do a panel go home Yep, the subway that goes to anime nyc Also goes directly to my apartment.  No, that's gonna be in new york Because one I can't take the subway to it and two. I don't think it's gonna be good No But if you want to do a panel at this anime convention anime nyc You should submit them because the panel deadline is like Next week it's coming up real quick. They're actually doing it way in advance because it's all smart people around in the con All right That's enough news All right, let's see But anyway things of the day what do you got? So, you know, I'm sure rim is familiar I don't know how many listeners are familiar with the yoshida brothers who are a a group of people who play The I believe their brothers They play traditional japanese instruments. I'm a big fan of the yoshida brothers. Typically shamisen. I think right and they play You know, they don't play typical japanese music on those shamisen.  It is a group of people with traditional japanese instruments Uh, and they are playing the theme song to Say the moon. This is real good, which is pretty good. So, uh, I think this channel I think has other stuff too, right? Both the stage craft is good and the music is good. Yeah Yeah, it's like it's like a filming of a live performance. So Yeah, this is worth a listen So I had a different thing of the day, but since Scott had traditional japanese instruments I have one I found a long time ago. I think I used it as a stinger at some point But this is a traditional japanese band using mostly traditional japanese instruments Covering a song you all know and love Africa by Toto Which has been continuously stuck in my head for almost eight months now It hasn't been eight months since we talked about this. Oh, we got stuck into my head Well before we started talking about it. So at least Nobody once told you Somebody bless the rains down at least it is ousted in a different song So I'm gonna warn you guys though like fair warning because remember a while ago I was like I should make an anime music video and then like I just did and I made it So I have that same feeling in my brain and I took that same first step I took all-star And I took Africa. I don't know if those mixed well together. They so you wouldn't think they would You're trying to you're trying to do a Neil Cicero. Good job. So I pull I I threw together like I hacked it together Just to see like is there a way to make it work And it worked About as well as when I was like I should just take this phony song and take Take Utena and just like mash him together and I just like through the timeline together and just listen to it It kind of worked I might try to make the Ciceringian style Africa all-star. How do they give the skills to do that? Uh, it'll be quite low bar here Quite low bar. You know how a lot of experience making mashups But I do have a lot of experience Arranging I think if you made a hundred of them, then you would start and we make good ones But you know, I'd never made an amv before and I'd none of those skills and I made a pretty fucking good amv in my opinion It's a little more uh obvious to you know, I don't think it takes a hundred I think only takes like 10 to make a good amv, but I only made one I just made one it only took like two days But uh, we'll see I'm working on this a little bit But it's past the point of this won't work and it's at the point of it's stuck Kind of like a rabbit. So if you the thing about pet rabbits is that sometimes they'll get an idea in their head Like how do you know? So how do you know the rabbit's thinking? So here's an example So say there's an area the rabbits can't get to and should not get to Usually it's not a problem. They can't get there. They don't express any interest in getting there It's not a problem, but occasionally the rabbit will appear to be like investigating the area that they're not supposed to get into Or actively attempting to get into the area. So of course you fortify the area From that point forward For the rest of time the rabbit will always be trying to get into that area and you see them attempting it Once they decide they want to do something the more you try to stop them the more they will try to do it Yeah, it's what children do. That's what I do when it comes to Mashing up. What is this? No trespassing sign. I want to go in there real bad No swimming.   I do what I want. Maybe they maybe you only see this in rabbits because they're learning from you They got your your dna's Other rabbits don't do this Only only rabbit sense. They learn from a rim. They learn from a professional All right, get to the meta stuff All right This is like the eighth time someone in the live stream has pointed this out because gig nights is actually recorded at night It's evening. It's like 7 p.m. Our time. It's just light out because it's summer. It's still evening. It counts That's all i'm gonna say about that. I'm home from work. It's not like i'm doing it before work Yeah, or during the day. Yeah, it's what you're supposed to do. We're supposed to if it's summer We're supposed to wait until like 10 o'clock at night. Yep It's recorded in the late evening. I'll go with that At some point we're gonna have to rerecord the closing bit Because if I get new music, we're gonna have to rerecord a voiceover because I don't have all the original components I don't have the recording of like us doing that end bit without the sailor moon thing. You should probably rewrite it anyway Yeah, you just give away that it's a sailor moon thing. Yeah, but only in the live stream Also, i'm changing it because it's time I think four or five people have figured it out over the years I never would have figured out how could you possibly Because it's not like it, you know, it's such an obscure. It's not, you know, it's like a it's like a track from a Image album or something. It's a track It's it's a segment People don't even know what an image album is anymore. Yeah, it's from one of sailor moon's IST's Did they even make IST's for him anymore? I don't even know But I don't even know like I can't even believe that they're it's hard to even imagine that there was a thing Market for so much that they were made to begin with I basically like I don't listen to Japanese music much anymore Most of the music I listen to only listen to like vaporwave Japanese music Yeah, but like I feel like Korean music has completely filled that void for me. Well, that's because the Korean music as uh makes itself available Yeah, well, it's on my streaming things I go to my sonos and be like play me k-pop and it'll just play me k-pop Yeah, it's what I tell it to play me k-pop is great when you get toto stuck in your head because basically there's a new k-pop song Every other week to erase the previous one. Yeah G g g is now in my head. That's like You know all that song. I know but it's real catchy Maybe I could mash that up with toto's african the number one k-pop song right now is power up All right Got a perfect all killed Which means it was number one in every single chart Not a lot of songs get there In the meta moment the book club book is no longer the odyssey. It is now the odyssey Regular odyssey space odyssey you got to find a third odyssey. Yep. Uh, actually If I use that uh planescape book That I keep talking about it is odyssey adjacent the pages of pain pages of pain. It is Pages of pleasure is basically all the culture books That party and player of games in the beginning before he goes off The guy gets so drunk. He falls off the cliff and it's totally fine. Let's watch some Everyone's walking around with their narcotics bowls Yeah, full web I see I had to explain I said full web to someone at work yesterday. Oh, they didn't know what it was Of course not. Of course not. I had to explain it. But you know what? Full web as a concept that is the most succinct way to express that kind like that Moderately complex concept in a succinct form right well Well, I think this two those are two terms from uh science fiction novels, right this grok Which is sort of like you have a full web of understanding is what so grok means you have full web of understanding And full web means you have accomplished a complete Right. Yep. Yep. They're related in that way and they both uh sort of uh Uh communicate fullness.  Well at work. I'm taking over like I'm taking over an area for someone else So I have to like do this knowledge transfer and like learn all their biz so I can deal with their biz And one of the engineers was like so does this all make sense? And I said I understand it, but I do not yet grok and he said all right Like he he he fully grok what I said to him he grok the grok. Yeah, perfectly cromulent word But anyway, 2001 a space Odyssey. I went to see the movie in 70 millimeter. It was still great I hadn't seen in a long time. I'm gonna read the book like imminently I started I thought I was like two chapters of the book. It doesn't seem that long actually I was planning to read it Uh possibly to fullness at the beach, but I feel like we're not going to the beach this week It looks like it's gonna rain now. Maybe the weather will change and we will go to the beach. We'll see we'll play The point is uh, I didn't realize this but the I thought it was a book was written and then a movie was made But actually the book and screenplay were written simultaneously by Simultaneously Right, uh, what's author's name again Arthur C. Clark and Stanley Kubrick worked on this at the same time That was news to me and that's kind of really interesting But they're still different from the movie and still worth reading Separate even if you see the important point is we have a book club and you should read these books I think every book we've read and done a show on is worth reading So at least one person who had already read the book said they were gonna read it again. Wow Okay, but yeah That's a person already reads books. We need people who don't read books.   I'm pretty sure we did name of the wind also. Uh I think that's almost worth reading. It's worth reading name of the winds. Okay Remember most of our complaints about name of the wind were based on knowledge from the second book Not based on that book that book in and of itself wasn't that bad? It wasn't it was worth reading I think world war z is literally the worst book we've ever talked about.  That's a trade-off whatever. I'm going to packs I don't care. Yep. Otherwise, we'll just be at packs doing paxing. Duh Uh Yeah, if you see us around We're gonna try to do our expo haul thing like the video thing that we used to do and then we stopped I think we'll have time to do it at this packs west. I got I got some ideas I got some ideas too. We should plan this. I'll have the new camera by them too Are you do you definitely? Yeah, so it's about how to bring any I'm going to bring a real camcorder to get video. So I don't have to bring any video cameras I can bring way less stuff We'll see so we should debate because if you bring your camera the only value of that other than you taking photos But you could bring a smaller camera for that indeed Is that we would have two 4k high quality actually color correct camera angles for our panel We've never had that we always have your good camera and my like 15 year old camcorder We'll see we'll see we'll play it by ear, but for at least for the purposes of doing Non-panel content. I will have a real camcorder Which will just make that way easier to pull off All right Do you gotta buy a tripod that can hold it? Uh monopod, but yeah and tripod. You should get the the same one. I have only with I Yeah, I think that's the one movie thing at the time Actually send me a link to that because that's probably the one I want to get because I've used it I mean you could probably get at this They I think they have a newer model of like the same basic one $100 extra for carbon So I have aluminum on one hand. I've never noticed on one hand. I I feel like I don't want to but on the other hand I was at bnh the other day The carbon one is way lighter like it's of course shockingly lighter. Yeah, my bicycle is shockingly light Yeah, well like My the the fact that my bike has a carbon fork alone just that was shocking in the difference it made Uh, oh, yeah about 10 years ago you guys Rim asked on the podcast who was listening to the podcast on a psp That guy was me. All right. All right. How's your psp doing? Do you still have the psp? Do you still use it? It was there at geek nights on mv3 on a memory stick of sony. Oh my god a memory stick meanwhile, I'm uh I still use compact flash on the Moran's compact flash is still a thing more than memory. It is barely a thing more than memory stick Yeah, definitely more than memory stick. All right. I'm diving in Diving into the main bit So city so, uh, Keiichi Arawe Is the person who wrote the manga nichi joe that you probably know from the anime nichi joe I've never read that manga nichi joe, but I watched like a handful of episodes of the anime I've watched a lot of the anime. It is one of my favorite Non like non narrative anime and it was all right, but it was sort of it was a little bit more disjointed and wacky Uh, then say ozamanga dial. It's one step more in feel in genre. I would say it's one step more zany than ozamanga dial But it also has didn't feel compelled to keep watching it even though watching it wasn't so bad I did but not in the sense of like watch every episode in order But more in the sense of I want to see something funny I'd pick literally a random episode and just watch it But anyway, uh, so I saw in the comic order form City volume one and it's like from the creator of nichi joe a new manga volume one buy it now and I'm like All right, I'll try that out see what the deal right? You know not an anime manga, right? We'll see what the deal is so I got city volume one and I also got city volume two But rim only read volume one I read both but I remember two way better than one because I read one a long time ago Yep, so the short the TLDR version is I really like it. I'm gonna read all of it Right, so it's weird So the best way I can describe it is it's like it's like a super cliche like you've seen all this before But it's crooked slightly so and it's also current right? It's like even though I feel like I've read These exact stories before I've seen all this these characters before and everything I haven't exact not exactly anyway. Oh other characters slightly different But what other manga anime coming out now is this kind of thing It's like in the past there. I feel like I feel like even though I hard time naming them right these kinds of stories But what were they? I think it's this and what coming out now is that kind of story? I guess like the genre it's it's slice of life crossed with Like a little more zany this than the real world, but not much more Yeah, because honestly like the level of things that happen in this comic Are about on par with the level of like things that I encounter living in new york city on a like weekly basis Yeah, all right, so the deal is right and his is where you'll see the cliches, right? There is a very poor She's my favorite character what nagamo. Yeah, I guess so it's hard to say there's a main character It's called it's called city because it's really about all these characters I think the main character is the creepy guy spying on everyone No, anyway, it's it's about all these different characters living in a city So it's sort of simpsons esque or there'll be like chapters that are about a character who's not the main one Yeah, but you start off focusing on this one character and that sort of is really the She's the driver for that first volume and it seems to get more focused than the others Uh, thus making her the main one, right? Yeah, even though it's not she's not as it goes on.  Uh, and then there's all these other wacky characters around. There's the girl who keeps taking photos of stuff There's there's the cop. The cop who always stands at the booth There's the old lady who apparently knows Hokuto shinken, right? There's a restaurant where somehow she ends up with a job or the restaurant has like the dad Who's the cook and the son who I like how she didn't want to work there They didn't want to hire her and yet she ended up working there. Yep. Yep You know, it's like, oh, you know stuff like that, right? Uh, and then it's like on the one hand is like this thin line of like things developing like it actually Unlike nichijo, there is a narrative emerging slowly through this slice of life Right, even though each chapter is like completely episodic comedy situations that come Like there's a chapter in volume two That's about uh the the kid who works at the restaurant getting trapped in the mascot costume Yep. Yep as like a whole chapter, right? Even though this every chapter is like that There is sort of this thread of very slow progression We're like the character the connections between the characters are increasing and they know each other more because at the beginning They like don't know any even though they live in the same city. They have no Visible connection to the one guy is like wait, isn't that the restaurant that girl works at? Right is like they start discovering each other and learning about past connections to each other and developing current connections To each other and learning each other's names and you know creating a group And coming closer to each other sort of like that scene in snatch where all the cars crash into each other, right?  She's slowly Getting money and getting her shit together and they sort of hint at like, ah, this is her She actually has a talent and you know the photo girl You know gains a fan and the sea The one Nagamo like bus into her apartment and she's just like taking pictures of broccoli that she's arranged on the floor Yeah Pretty much if I I mean if I had to describe like the important point about this mark because it's great I like I think it's really funny and I like it it has impeccable comedic timing The way like even in terms of like what will be on the next page like it's so well crafted I laughed out loud Easily a dozen times reading volume one and I think the part like the best the most illustrative story in volume one about this Is when the dude at the restaurant the chef Spills the dish he was going to serve to this client. That's a very sign for that It is he spills this new these noodles Right, he's going to he's going to I think what he's going to give someone noodles to serve them And the guy's like drinking some wine so he doesn't like he's not notice He doesn't notice he spills the noodles into the guy's open bag on the ground and the guy doesn't notice Yeah, and the whole question is what does he do in this situation? And it is so utterly funny Like I can't even spoil it the last page of that arc Is a comedic triumph. Yeah, that's a good one But I don't know this is for everyone like I think I can't think of the person who wouldn't enjoy this comment person Even then it's just look at the pictures.   Yeah, even then they might still think it's funny Sometimes I mean some evil people also read books and enjoy them. So it's possible I guess so But like I really I literally recommend this manga to anyone who's a fan of nichijo to anyone who's a fan of Autism Osamanga Dio To anyone who listens to geek nights Like I I I think this is great and I think you should check it out. So the the thing is the art is very Simple Right, it's like it's sort of like folk up for comp for panel yet the characters are all Instantly recognizable. I'm never confused as to who someone is Yeah, I mean it's sort of like the art is like if you ever read the Osamanga Dio manga Which was a four panel a four coma. They call it right It's better than that, but it's like you look at say Yotsuba Yotsuba is like elaborate compared to City, right? Yeah, so if you're looking for like fancy artworks, this is not it I think the important part is also if you're looking for length, this is not it either Like this reads and like two seconds like you buy this thing for what what does it cost? I have no idea what things cost It was it's not expensive, but it's like, you know Uh, see what it is to get it from the South American yep But it's low investment like it's easy to pick up and put down It's episodic enough to where it doesn't really matter like how quickly you read it You're not going to get sucked into some long crazy narrative. All right, so it's like it's like 12 13 dollars of volume, right? Uh, you're going to blow through that in like 15 minutes But also like a dollar a minute entertainment the dialogue like the way the carrot like especially Nagumo and the girl She's kind of mooching off of Their dialogue is actually pretty like realistic to how friends would interact Yeah, it's not, you know, it's they don't talk in any kind of weird way Yeah, but it's it's all everything's very natural reading a translation also, but I guess you know the translation totally I you forget that it's Japanese except you're reading right to left. Yeah, they're in a very Japanese city So i'm gonna read the rest of this if scott keeps buying it I'll just keep borrowing it from him and if he stops buying it. I might just buy the rest of it No, you're gonna spend your 13 dollars. Hey, I'll buy it on kindle Is it on kindle? Uh, let's see i'm on the amazon page. It is kindle and comicsology eight bucks Paperback 11 30. Oh, it's actually much cheaper to not buy the paper version. Maybe I'll buy the not paper version from now on Yeah, it seems like it's eight bucks of volume That's not bad. Yeah, comicsology and kindle. That's fine the art This is if you don't need this to be like full color right in the display to appreciate the art Yeah, no, it's not the art's good, but it's I don't need there were no color pages, right? I think none. Uh, there's a handful cover the cover wasn't there's the insert and there's a couple of little colors Oh, I mean if I read out my ipad, I'll see color anyway. Yeah, so what do I care? There's the bit in the beginning about the bird the irrelevant bird And even though the bird is irrelevant. Yeah, I keep seeing the bird on things Also, the one unexplained mystery I'm kind of invested in is In the police station you keep seeing in the background There's a picture of this like cobra looking snake and it's just like have you seen me I expect at some point that is checkoffs cobra and we're gonna see that cobra You're really noticing all the details. Yep, but the bird appeared a couple of times in the background too Well, I think that's what it is is like, you know, like I said before there's these connections building, right? So and it's you have all these individual episodes yet during those individual episodes There are small things happening being said characters seeing each other You know, I think there are some chapters We're like you see even though it's this you read one chapter And then you read the next chapter has nothing to do with the one previous But you can see that aha these character was there right near the character the other character Yeah, I was doing something at the same time It's like aha. They were in the same place in this small little city Right and even though they didn't see each other or talk to each other But they they show you that they were near each other at that exact moment in time these two events took place You know on the same exact street Right and that somehow, you know, maybe they bumped into each other if it didn't say anything or one person caused a thing that You know was it, you know, you see it like someone trips and falls But then in the second in the next chapter they show you ah that actually happened because of this Yep, and you didn't know it uses the fact that you see everything Like there's all this stuff around these statues and like one girl steals one to try to sell it But then it's like when she tries to sell it it's worth way too much money So she feels bad about stealing and she puts it back But then she breaks it someone else talks later about how like oh, yeah I've just been throwing those things away because like our friend my mom keeps sending them to us and I don't really care like There's a lot of jokes that are based on the fact that you know the true story Of the thing that all these all their people are interacting with So yeah, you should pick this up and read it and as someone in the stream asked This is not at all similar to dr. Slump. No dr. Slump is much more Simplistic humor Does not rely very much on timing and frankly I've read a lot of dr. Slump because I own it all Not actually that good. Well dr. Slump is made by the dragon ball guy. Yeah, Toriyama It's enjoyable, but it's not like I like gintama too. I think gintama is really funny. This is both very different from gintama and Objectively superior to gintama in terms of its comedy. I'd say the same thing. This is objectively comedically superior to dr. Slump. Yeah, I think the thing I like about the city the most is that it's sort of less Zany and ridiculous Right, even if you look, you know, it's not completely unzany But like, you know, nichijou is famous for like the goat wrestling Gif or whatever, right? Even I was among a diet.  Yep, you know, it's not 100 realistic But there's no like super things like the zaniness is literally like I said It is the level of zaniness that I actually for real encounter on a regular basis living in new york city So yeah, check this out. It's totally worth reading. All right. Good. I'm hungry. I'm also hungry All right The psp is broken That's a shame. All right. Sorry your bsp is broken


I remember one of the creepiest videos I've seen before. Because there was something to it that really never happened, that it seems so real that it might actually did happen. Similar to the world ending in 2012, which by the way really never happened, because I was fully awake during the day the world was supposed to end, according to the millions. You see, there was something to it that was odd and you're wondering where I got the video from? Let me tell you about the whole situation I've encountered. I live in a town in Wisconsin, I remember going to a DVD store around late 2019, that surprisingly had free DVDs. You don't need any money for a copy, yup it's all free. I was looking around to buy something interesting and maybe some DVDs.  But something got to my attention on something I never had. There was a DVD of a fireplace. If you don't know, it's like some live stream of a fireplace to relax in. Since I didn't have a fireplace, I bought this DVD for my house. I grabbed out the DVD player. It's been a while since I've gotten DVDs like this. But the thing is, it's gonna contain something later on. But let me tell you this, I remember visiting a town called, Cransville. It is located in northern Illinois. I moved to Wisconsin at late 1999. Around Christmas time during that time, it was pretty snowy out there, and it was pretty hard moving to the town in Wisconsin, which I currently live in. To be frank, I think the town I currently live is better than the town I used to live in. If you want to know the history of Cransville, Illinois, it started back in the 1800s, founded by a man named, George Cranley, and the town has a population of around 10,000. So it's a pretty small town. But what happened to it basically? You will have to find out when I put the chimney DVD in. It was pretty shocking stuff, on what I have stumbled upon. It was like in the night hours, when I was about to go to sleep. I put this DVD in to relax myself and sleep easily. I slept for a few hours, until I heard a sound pop out. Basically I was awoken with the sounds of a party. It appears that the television switched scenes to a video of a New Year's Eve party. It was New Year's Eve, from the date of December 31, 1999. It was a block party at a neighborhood street. The block party was celebrating the new century that was about to come. There were around 30 people in the party, and the cameraman seemed really paranoid, as if either was feeling the world was about to end, or he was going to get killed.  It cuts to the countdown to the year 2000, a year that was going to begin the 2000s. The champagne was sprayed out, and it was obviously, Cransville, Illinois. The fact is, the cameraman gets even more paranoid. He curls himself in while they make the countdown. When it gets 12, things go wrong. A bright light was seen, and there appears to be a massive explosion. A video cuts to black for a little bit, and after that was well, the aftermath of what happened. It gets really intense. Littered in the grass and the streets were the vaporized shadows of people celebrating. It looks much worse than Hiroshima in my opinion. But the cameraman survived, and there were more shadows stuck into the walls. Two vaporized shadow beings was a mother hugging her child in distress, if the world actually ended. Another was a man running away, and the final shadow was the creepiest. Because that final shadow appeared to be a man standing and watching. This was the position the man was looking at, the cameraman. Because in fact, I rewind the video and saw something.  He was vaporized to death. What's the strange part is, I think I revived a memory I had from 2001. I saw this video before, and it was obviously not edited. So the world actually ended in 2000. It's weird that something so odd just happened, and most people never talked about it. So did the world actually end in 2000, and are we living in purgatory ever since?


Rob's been telling everyone facts about everybody else so I think it's only fair that we find out some things about Rob. When he was a baby he actually came he was baby number two in an episode of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. One of his cousins is world-renowned award winner Matthew McConaughey the actor and in high school he was on a wrestling team and his team name was the Velveteen Rabbit and one of those is actually true so good luck finding out which one. Hi everyone I'm Monica I'm not well off on Twitter and GitHub and all sorts of internet places and I make polymer elements I'm one of the few people who makes elements for polymer and before I used to work on polymer I used to work on chrome so I wrote a lot of UI and C++ and there's nothing that a grumpy compiler will make you appreciate more than CSS because in CSS we figured out how to separate what a thing does from how a thing looks like and this is really great because you can have your markup and you can have your HTML and figure out what a thing does and then spend all your all the time that you want on CSS and make it pretty and my favorite thing about CSS is that it's super open source and super available so you get to copy paste a lot of CSS because I still don't know how to vertically align things but thankfully somebody out there has figured it out and what ends up happening whatever you write apps is that you start with let's say an HTML button and HTML buttons are ugliest sin and they've looked the same for the last 20 years and you want to make them all shiny and pretty so you're gonna go and find a library it could be bootstrap it could be material design you're gonna find something that makes your button pretty and then the only way we know how to use CSS library is is that in order for us to make this button pretty we put a we slap a class on it in this case let's say it's fancy so we're super happy now our app looks great everything's shiny it's great but our app keeps growing and later on we're gonna have a different button and it's super good we've figured this one out we're gonna find a library it's gonna make sure really pretty but unfortunately the library that we're using also wants us to use a fancy class on this button and now we have a little bit of a problem because we have two buttons that are supposed to look different but are actually using the same class name so you have no idea what they're actually going to look like and this is pretty tragic and the root problem is that CSS really has no opinion about scoping everything's global everything's everywhere classes everybody can have a class and the only opinion it sort of has that you should name things really well and names aren't really computer as like a computer science people that's not a thing we really like we have to trust these library owners to name their things really well so that we can use them that's kind of sketchy so thankfully the shadow DOM came around and the shadow DOM was really great because what it does is it builds it lets us actually have encapsulation for styles and style encapsulation is super good because now your styles don't leak so the way I like to think about the shadow DOM is that it's actually a tiny little castle so you take the DOM you've got this giant pile of markup and in one particular place you carve a little hole into that DOM and you put your markup and you put your styles and you close it down with with walls around it so now you've got a castle and that castle is basically your web component everything that it does and all its styles just live inside and they don't leak out and nothing gets in and this is super great so if you go back to my terrible example where we're trying to make this button fancy we can actually make this button into a web component and things get much better so this is how you would define a web component in Polymer you may have seen this and then somewhere in there it has a fancy class and it has a whole bunch of CSS but that fancy CSS just lives inside of this button it lives inside of this castle it doesn't go outside because you can see like I could style all the a links in this element and imagine this actually styled all the a links in your application oh you bananas right so this is really great it just stays inside this this particular element so in our original button instead of using these CSS libraries which are great these libraries should in fact use web components and then you can just drop this magical web component is gonna be a super nice button is super fancy button and everything is great because the promise of web components is that you can start with you can you just just drop in any elements and they're just going to work magically and you're not gonna have to do any effort about it look how simple that marked markup is is just a button and it does a whole bunch of things it looks really great and this is actually not very new so the platform has been using web components behind your back for a very long time we just haven't been able to do the same as developers which I think is cheating if you look at input type equals date which is my favorite example for this input type equals date is an input selector that has a giant date picker associated with it and you can do all sorts of things to style the input itself you can change its color you can change its font it's gonna turn red and giant but there's really nothing that you can do to actually style that drop down there's there's a couple like sketchy WebKit pseudo selectors that started with like WebKit and weird Collins which kind of make you like that you change like the font size but not the entire thing itself and the reason is if you actually look at the markdown the markup I keep saying markdown is all markdown if you actually look at the HTML for input type equals date you don't see anything about a picker you don't see anything about a drop down you just see input type equals date and that's because that entire square is in the shadow dump it actually lives inside the inputs castle and that's why you can't get to it so this is kind of glorious because on one hand you've never had to worry about creating an ID called picker or using a classical date picker and this magically having the side effect of making your drop down less hideous on the other hand your drop down is always really hideous and you can't really fix it and it doesn't match any of the other styles in your application so how do we do this we're polymer we've given you web components surely we can do this right how do we get inside the castle how do you style these shadow dump components and in polymer 0.5 we thought that the answer to this was dragons so we gave every developer a dragon we're like carry on have fun and if we've ever watched Game of Thrones once you get a dragon it grows really big doesn't speak English and eats all of your goats so that's kind of what happened and these dragons were shadowing deep and the problem with shadowing deep is that they kind of break this promise that I told you that I'm gonna give you a web component and you don't have to care about what it does you just like put in your application and run and everything's great because if you actually try to use shadowing deep let's say that we're changing the background of this button what you end up doing is opening the web tools of the developer tools start inspecting to figure out which CSS classes the one is pissing you off you find it you select it with some deeps and some shadows possibly both and then you get to change the background and this is terrible like you should you should need to do this we can do better sad face so so how do I get inside the castle how do we actually style these things guys dragons aren't actually real you should have yelled at me the first time I said dragons they're not things that we can use in real life you know what are things that get to break to castles bridges we're in Amsterdam we've seen a lot of bridges that's their only purpose to get you from like point A to point B preferably over water and how do we style things in HTML we've been styling styling them for decades it's with CSS the way you make things pretty with HTML is with CSS so surely we should be able to use CSS for web components as well and we can and these are custom properties and they're part of the spec and Polymer's been using them and this is how we've been styling Polymer 1.0 elements so if we look at our element from before and it has a style in there let's say that this is the class that's giving the background of the button what if inside of instead of me hard coding the color of the button what if I give it a variable like a custom property I'll call it fancy button background fancy buttons the element that I'm styling this I was pretty legit I can even give it a default value so if you the user of this element don't provide me with with a color I'll just use red and then I can do this anywhere in the scope of my button because maybe my button is actually really complicated and has a lot of like nested divs and very far down is the class that's actually giving the background of the button so I can do that I can put any selector that I want and create this custom property and then when you the user of the fancy button get to style this button all you have to do is use the name of the property and give it a value cornflower blue that's a legal CSS color name great and now I've made all the fancy buttons blue but but I also can make a particular button a particular submit button this one's going to be cornflower blue all the other ones are going to be red and this might look a little bit scary but it's actually exactly how we've been doing normal CSS see if I take away the gibberish at the beginning is just background called cornflower blue this is the thing we know the gibberish at the beginning is actually because you have to somehow tell the CSS parser that you know what you're doing and you're not just typing things that don't have any meeting that's what the two dashes are the dashes are like listen I promise you this thing may exist you go look for it is not just junk and it's really powerful so we've created the CSS property and you might be tempted to think that you know oh good assassin less have had variables forever good for you but it's not like assassinless variable because in assassinless styles and variables are still global like I can define background to be blue but everything that uses background is gonna have blue so we're not actually scoped it at all but in this case it's this particular submit button this particular castle that's going to have the background of blue all the other ones are not so this is really great the other little gimmick here is that we have this like weird-looking style tag and this is because CSS properties are part of the spec there are things that we're all getting around to but they haven't actually been implemented in all the browsers so Firefox nightly I believe has it and if you look in the audience Levi works on on the Chrome blink team and he's right now actually implementing CSS properties in Chrome but they're not there yet so Polymer has to polyfill it for a while and that's how we polyfill it the super awesome part that now we have these CSS properties available we get to do themes and they're so easy and so amazing so imagine that I create a file let's call it light material design theme and I define a whole bunch of CSS properties and I give them really nice names like primary color primary background color disabled color and I give them values now when I started building my application I can just use these CSS property names inside of color so instead of saying color colon gray I can use colored var dark primary color and then that's that's what your element would look like and then in your demo or in your main page you can just decide which theme you're going to use maybe you want the light theme maybe you want the dark theme and all of them are just gonna work by magic because once you import the right theme these values are gonna get substituted correctly so that's pretty awesome the thing however is that there's a lot of CSS and you're not going to expose a property for everything out there because that's really annoying so in our style from before we had things are overlapping there that's great so we had a fancy button and it had a background and that was super good but then you as a user you're like great background's amazing but you know what else I need I need padding and I'm like yeah here you go you have padding and you're like great I have padding but you know what I need I need a opacity and if you think this isn't a real scenario I've been working on elements for like six months and this is exactly what you guys do you send me like issues that some property isn't there and could I possibly add it so we have an answer for that too because if you can define one CSS property well you can define a bag of properties and this is what we call a mix-in and this has also been a specked out by tab atkins he recently proposed it so we have super hopes is going to make it into the spec as well but here basically we're saying listen I've given you the background property which I'm pretty sure 90% of the time that's the one that you want to use but in case there's anything that I make missed here's a fancy button mix-in so you can define a whole bag of properties and we're just gonna teleport them and apply them in here it's gonna be great so if you go back to my button where it had it was a nice calming cornflower blue background I can now define also define a mix-in and say oh good it's gonna also have a padding of 30 and it's great and this might look a little bit scary because you're like oh no selector instead of selector what's going on but it's actually a lot like a regular CSS property it has a name it's followed by a colon it has a value and then has a semicolon and that value is between squiggles because you can put a whole bunch of things in there so we want to keep track of them at the same time we're sort of scoping them together and it works in the same way so this mix-in only applies to the submit button only applies to this particular castle and it stays there and just gets inherited downwards like a normal CSS property would so styling in Polymer 1.0 is way more powerful because we get to use things that we've been using forever we've always styled HTML with CSS so there's no reason why we shouldn't be styling web components with CSS now that we have custom properties that's exactly what we're gonna do so stop using shadow and deep also they're getting deprecated and we're gonna start ripping them out of all the code so if you're using them very sorry you're about to get broken soon and get on the custom properties boat because it's great thank you