Whitehall 1212 for the first time in history Scotland Yard opens its secret files to bring you the authentic stories of some of its most baffling cases these are the stories the unvarnished facts just as they occurred reenacted for you by an all British cast only the names of the participants have for obvious reasons been changed the stories are presented with a full cooperation of Scotland Yard research on Whitehall 1212 is prepared by Percy Hoskins chief crime reporter of the London Daily Express the stories for radio are written and directed by Willis Cooper here are the participants in case number nine to one MR four to one Peter Williams who boxed at 135 pounds it's all right it looked like your duty Mrs. Jesse Fallowfield his mother-in-law it'll come out all right one of these days I'm sure Sir Brendan O'Neill home office pathologist Scotland Yard we're doing the best we can do Iris Williams who resembled her mother chief inspector Oscar Ford of Scotland Yard on the morning of 19th November 1943 two engineers employed by a Bedfordshire town discovered something floating half submerged in the waters of the River Lee if you'll come with me down the corridor here to the Black Museum I'll show you what they found come along please this is Scotland Yards Black Museum of which you may have heard Chief Superintendent John Davison doesn't seem to be here John ask the Ford John Chief Superintendent Davison is the custodian of the Black Museum has a long and distinguished record with the yard came in connection with the Williams case John oh yes 9 to 1 MR 4 to 1 appear on a shout so I hope you're not too disappointed and not finding skeletons and gory human bodies lying about in here but they're in short stock with us this is it Oscar actually this isn't the ground you know the articles filed away in here all of course at some connection with one crime or another but they're not particularly gory now we don't keep them here to inspire writers of penned dreadfuls on the world as a total now they're here for the use as reference items in our business of catching criminals examples you see of how certain crimes were committed and I think you'd be amazed how much they aid our people in solving of other similar ones now these things in this box a potato sex ordinary rough burlap sex but potatoes come in other things come in them too John yes a dead body came in this one me rain mixed with snow had been falling all day when I arrived at the riverbank 40 miles north of London thanks to the inclement weather no crowd had gathered and the huge local constable the unfortunate victim and I had the dismal landscape all to ourselves I showed my car to the constable thank you sir that's it I wouldn't look if you don't need to serve drowned a not only drowns oh doctors just left sir they'll be coming to take it to the mortuary her he thinks it was a woman it was of course patent that the woman had died of violent death to use the old cliche at the hands of a person or persons unknown our job was not only to find that person or persons unknown but first to establish the identity of the unfortunate young woman who had worn potato sacks as her ultimate garment a homicide is a very personal thing the relations between victim and killer that exists before the deed are most important in discovering the latter but lacking identification of the victim it's most difficult to establish what relations ever existed between the late unlimited and any other person in the world so one might think that the secret of successful murder is to render your victim unidentifiable but don't try it it can't be done we'll catch you so Brendan O'Neill the home office pathologist told me to what extent the killer had attempted to prevent identification of the victim and thus of himself there are no fingerprints of course I suggest that you have the bottom of the river lead dragged at once already see if you can find the missing hands already at that's a brandon no luck so far though well whoever she was she wore false teeth so there's no good trying that one teeth are missing of course they're up on all lower plate they might be at the bottom of the river to in a foot of mud somewhere you'll never find them never seen such a completely anonymous body in all my time Oscar no scars or moles birthmarks that sort of thing another thing I can tell you her height though five feet three inches and her weight assuming that the missing arms weight about 20 pounds that would make her 121 pounds say 120 quite average brown hair Bob can't tell you what color her eyes were no we're trying to type her blood now afraid that's all no her age sir I'd say about 27 oh yes and she'd had children it isn't much to go on is it first we can do chief inspector oh I know that sir those wounds on her head hit with something that has a sharp corner smashed the skull in three places dead when she was thrown into the water well we'll check every missing woman case of bedfisher way first see if we can find out which 120 pound five foot three woman is not accounted for had children dull brown bobbed hair that's all of it I should have listened to my father he wanted me to be a passenger well good luck now bloody well needed I muttered to myself as I closed the door I didn't have any though for a long time this is what we accomplished in the next six weeks 534 lorry drivers known to have passed the riverbank where the body was found during the 24 hours previous to the finding of the body were investigated and screened result nothing the movements of every soldier on daily from the nearby army camps during that period were traced result nothing every war factory worker in the vicinity in both day and night shifts was questioned result absolutely nothing 604 women throughout Britain who had been reported missing were checked on by Scotland yard and provincial police result all 604 women were found alive the banks and bottom of the river Lee was searched for two miles in both directions from the place where the body was found results quantities of mud and useless debris a photograph of the skull was given to an expert artist who carefully reattached it and to what we all hoped was a semblance of the dead woman's features and we caused copies of this photograph to be handed from house to house in this market city of 70,000 we had the photograph exhibited on the screens at all the local cinemas thousands of persons saw this retouched picture in the weeks before Christmas 1943 including the murderer himself we found out later but the results were still nothing at all on the day after Christmas the coroner's order for the burial of the remains was signed case number 921 MR 421 was about to be stamped unsolved as I was leaving the yard in the evening of that 26 I ran into Chief Superintendent John Davidson the black museum man have a good Christmas sir I asked not bad at all Oscar very pleasant you I worked what a pity understand the burying that girl tomorrow I expect that's the end of it going to the funeral well sir you'd hardly call it a funeral exactly you're going hardly sir oh have a cigar Canadian friend of mine sent me a box for Christmas real corona perfectors thank you sir well one more for me then I should think it would be an act of Christianity if you did attend the girls funeral well sir I remember once by 1910 if I remember correctly I think it was all smudgy steel inspector steel dead now he nabbed a man at a funeral that's also the murderer chap came to gloat I expect that his victims last rights steel wanted who this stranger was and got into conversation with him awesome wells or someone ought to get hold of that one make a corking good penny dreadful wouldn't it a stranger at the funeral of something but it really happened might happen again too you know well good night yes good night and so I rode 40 miles to a market town on a dismal day after Boxing Day to a grimy little cemetery not far from one of the hat factories for which the town is celebrated the two second assistant sextons were shoveling the frozen claws into the raw new grave as I walked away from there with a huge constable and the young army chaplain who had been summoned away from a nearby officers mess to officiate the cemetery was deserted except for us the murderer hadn't been in attendance after all the big constable and I walked on past the hat factory whilst the young chaplain left to go back to his unfinished lunch it was cold streets almost deserted the policeman talked about the tug-of-war the last summer's police game I give you my word sir I never saw such a team as them blokes from the city police not a man less than 15 stone amongst them and cute bloke that anger man well that chap weighed not a pound less than 17 stone and strong whoo-hoo a ruddy bull name of prior no prior from Galway originally I thought I should have died laughing sir the way that belt nearly cut him in two he sucked them great eels in any afternoon what's the matter with you young lady that didn't matter with their voice oh now what's the matter dear she's lost the best thing of the nearest police station a come along young lady she thinks he's on the floor in jail I'm not going to paint your sister you lost you see probably will indeed somewhere else planted in the cinema now what do we do constable what's your name well look up at me here let me let me see your face I have a hunch yes sir don't let that kid get away what she's done I'll show you in a second look keep it quiet before we run in I'll find it in a minute here here it is look at it look at it don't let her see it love a ruddy duck recognize the paper there we circulated thousands of these all over town well tell me what it is yes it's the picture of the missing woman you people at Scotland Yard had made up what else do you see sir I said what else do you see this little maniac whose mother is missing is a spitting image of the picture all right come on come on darling we'll take you home now dear your mummy can't come out now we accompany the little girl whose name we learned was Iris Williams age three to her home a short distance away was a modest three room flat occupied by a Mrs. Jesse Fallowfield the child's grandmother and her son-in-law Iris's father a member of the local National Fire Service unit little Iris recreated to the doorstep with an enormous slice of bread and while Bramble jelly while Mrs. Fallowfield talked with us yes I've been here only two weeks you see I didn't want to talk before little Iris her mother's away my daughter so we understand from Iris Mrs. Fallowfield quite I don't like to have to say it but Jesse my daughter she has the same name as mine and Peter my son-in-law didn't get on together where is your son at the fire station well to speak quite plainly my Jesse wrote to me at seven oaks and can't you know that she couldn't stand it here with Peter any longer and she was going away how long ago was that oh the 19th of November you haven't heard from her since oh yes indeed almost every week you've heard from us since she left oh yes but we're on the best of terms as long as we're not together you see I'm afraid she's a bit flighty well one can't live one's daughter's life can one and you say you heard from her recently oh yes as a matter of fact the reasons I came from seven oaks to live here is because she wrote asking me to need yes she insisted she couldn't live with Peter but he needs to be taken care of says she and won't you go and make a home for a mother so that's why I'm here Peter just moved in with me a week ago it's very cozy though I do wish she'd come home again though it would probably be the same thing all over again bicker bicker bicker now there's no peace in this world anywhere is there well I'm sure we're very sorry to have bothered you Mrs. Fallowfield but we were quite captivated by little Iris I do hope she didn't hurt you I better make you to come and fix that up ma'am Iris was quite upset that her mother hadn't come home for Christmas oh my yes though Jesse wrote both Peter and me saying she couldn't make it she was so busy there in Hampstead the Christmas rush and all hairdresser you said yes but I'm afraid I don't know the name of the place well it doesn't really matter since you're sure it was your daughter's handwriting in that letter well I should think I'd be able to recognize that handwriting of hers the hours I've spent trying to teach her to write tidily well I hope you'll pardon our intrusion Mrs. Fallowfield we were so taken with dear little Iris yes and rather alarmed about her mother oh and I'm afraid that we police officers suspicious I'm sorry well there's nothing at all to worry about my daughter gentlemen I'm quite sure that she's safe oh I'm quite sure of that madam but her husband your son oh I'm sure I wouldn't be surprised if that's Peter now Peter oh I'm sorry these gentlemen are from the police Peter the police about Jesse I'm happy to see you Mr. Williams oh I'm Chief Inspector Ford of Scotland Yard what's this about Jesse oh don't be alone Peter Iris was blubbering in the street about her mummy being lost and these gentlemen were afraid murders been done as something equally horrid and brought her home oh well well thank you gentlemen mother I must have tea early I'm fighting tonight my son is a boxer yeah you're a lightweight I take it mr. Williams 135 pounds yes didn't see your name on the card at the drill all a yes slasher Rifkin broke his wrist this afternoon I'm a substitute I should probably see you then too bad about slasher good man that saw him fight that Australian four weeks ago I've beaten him twice he can't stand up against a left-handed boxer you're left-handed yes another letter from Jesse Peter yes the postman was just passing and he got another example of your daughter's handwriting mrs. fellowfield oh yes oh yes of course did you ever see such writing the girl will never learn nobody could ever imitate that writing well gentlemen I'm sorry that you've had to get mixed up in all this my wife's a very charming girl but we quite understand I hope you'll forgive our intrusion all right look like your duty I suppose another one of those unfortunate affairs I'm sorry about it but well you're men of the world you understand oh yes it'll all come out right one of these days I'm sure though it's all right mother fellowfield the gentleman if you'll excuse me I've got my tea now of course of course so sorry to have disturbed you sir and mrs. fellowfield it's quite all right good night good night now Peter would you fancy a nice kipper perhaps well what did you think sure done a bit of boxy in my time too what one thing I learned many years ago yes never trust a left-handed boxer I went back to London completely baffled at this turn of events that had suddenly reopened a case that should have been closed in that wintry little graveyard here was almost indubitable proof that the woman we had buried was still alive and in constant communication with her husband and her mother the letter from her had arrived on the very day I had seen her body committed to the frozen ground was impossible obviously out of my desk at Scotland Yard the next morning I arranged to have every known hairdressing shop in Hampstead and the whole north of London investigated to find if any employed a girl named Jesse Williams or Jesse fellowfield I'd caught the return address on the envelope in the fellowfield flat and it said Jesse Williams Hampstead spelled that way without the p h a m s t e a d I remembered well I thought she spells as badly as she writes I dismissed it and picked up the telephone to make a routine inquiry Hayley I'd like you to look up a chap for me please I'm sorry even spectral Ford yes sir chap named Peter Williams a boxer by profession comes from Bedfordshire see if we've ever had any dealings with him before will you take some time sir oh good enough bring me when you find out will you that's all I know about him all right thank you I went upstairs to see Sir Brendan O'Neill the home office pathologist hello Oscar get her buried all right yes sir they'll sit down I want to dig her up again what for old boy can it be done well of course if there's sufficient reason I need to know one of you things it's unusual but case isn't closed yet I sort of that well if her relatives don't raise the ground we haven't been able to find any relatives oh that's right isn't it well that case bigger up right sir then we can have a send down here and I'll need your personal assistance of Brendan for what I want to find out some things I can't tell you her name Oscar perhaps I can what do you want me to do then help me to find a very clever murderer sir these things happen during the next two days first a report from the officer in charge of checking the hairdressing establishments we have checked every address in shop in the entire north portion London the special reference to Amstead sir 131 shops not one as any record of a woman named Jesse Williams or Jesse Fallerfield there was only one Jesse among them all and Mrs. Jesse Forest at age 61 she was obviously not the person we was after thank you sergeant yes sir a report from the criminal records office of Scotland Yard Sergeant Healey speaking sir we checked thoroughly on your box of Peter Peter Williams find anything on him yes sir he's been up twice convicted penal servitude in both instances good yes oh no what was he charged with a final visit to Sir Brendan O'Neill's laboratory here's the here's the report Oscar she was struck twice on the head with a flat object like a wide metal bar or a heavy narrow wooden plank the instrument was of undetermined length that the marks on the skull indicate that it was three and seven eighth inches wide at the point where it was struck into the skull very good indeed sir Brendan how about the other experiment well they're still working on that looks rather silly doesn't it I think you were right will you be able you think to swear to it if you find I'm right sir if results continue this way we shall you're sent for me sir Brandon oh yes yes your haze aren't you yes right or left handed haze left handed sir good over on that side they'll call you when they're ready haze yes would you like to take a little trip up to Bedfordshire with me sir Brendan my constable friend from the tug-of-war team had briefed me on how to find the little house where the box of Williams had lived with his wife Jesse before she went away as he said to Hampstead before he had gone to live with her mother it was a tiny cottage not far from his present flat I noted with interest that one of the windows looked out onto the graveyard where we had buried that poor woman a few days before we walked around the place staring at the neat rooms empty as they'd stood since Williams had moved out there was nothing at all at first to excite our interest subrennan O'Neill walked into the tiny stone floor scullery I watched with the other Scotland yard man who'd come with us so Brandon spoke from the other room and this strip of wood on this old bench here measure it three three and seven eighths inches all right well right with Oscar good the nailed on fairly recently sir these are new nails see if you can get it off carefully oh I can do it hand me the parcel Oscar what's that sir it's a skull never mind it the piece of wood you've been here before madam it's the scars perfectly Oscar I think we've got that him right inside mr. Williams if you please that's him back here in the scullery constable right sir good afternoon mr. Williams hello inspector Ford Scotland Yard sir I'm afraid I don't quite understand why we'll try to show you mr. Williams I really haven't much time I thought that's enough console what a few things mr. Williams now what's the name of that place that your wife writes to you from I am stead how do you spell that why H a m s t e a d how interesting that's the way it's spelled on those letters from your wife isn't it isn't that right that's the way I always spelled it I exactly this object is the skull of a woman shall we say resembled your wife in many ways I don't know what may I have the club sir Brendan thank you this heavy plank which has been once removed from this stool here and been replaced fits the scars on the skull exactly you see now look here I don't know about him constable I'm watching him sir and so Brendan O'Neill here conducted certain experiments with this poor relic of the woman who so closely resembled your wife mr. Williams a large number of men 141 141 men struck at this skull which was placed where a standing woman's head might be is his nonsense I'm afraid it's far from nonsense Williams none of the right-handed men were able to strike the skull at all in the region of the scars but every left-handed man could steady lefty Peter Williams I arrest you on a charge of willful murder of your wife Jesse Williams and I warn you that anything you may say will be taken down in writing and may be used in evidence you wish to make a statement at this time the evidence was incontestable at the trial the testimony of handwriting experts proved that Williams had written the letters perpetually coming from his wife after her death the days on which these letters had been posted were in every case the days on which Williams had been off-duty the only days on which he had been able to go to London for that purpose it was demonstrated in court that only a left handed man could have struck the fatal blows the testimony of more than a dozen acquaintances of the couple provided the motive for the murder and in a dramatic break with his counsel in open court Williams shouted out his confession that he had indeed committed the brutal murder he was sentenced to be hanged and the sentence was executed on May day 1944 you have heard another in the series Whitehall 1212 compiled by special permission from the official files of Scotland Yard only the names have been changed otherwise the story is true research for Whitehall 1212 is prepared by Percy Hoskins of the London Daily Express the stories for radio are written and directed by Willis Cooper three chimes mean good times on NBC


Hello, everyone. Welcome to the course. My name is Christian and I'll be your guide and instructor throughout this course Now this course is designed for beginner developers who are still kind of new to REST APIs and how to make Ajax cost Okay So I will start off the course by introducing you to the concept of asynchronous Why is it so important in JavaScript? As you know, JavaScript is a single 3D language, right? So what that means is if you're not careful your code can be blocked and once it's blocked Your application can come to a halt and we don't want that to happen Then we'll kick off our coding by going to the back end and create a really simple No JS application where we'll be creating our own custom APIs after that we're going to switch over to the front end and Create a single page application using just plain on HTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery And then we'll be making Ajax calls by sending data from the front end to the back end using different types of HTTP requests and thanks to the HTTP protocol and Actually, thanks to Claude Shannon, the father of information theory that we're able to transfer data one bit at a time Across the network. So I'm excited and I hope you are too. So let's get busy and let's code


I'm Kiara with Moving Minds Dance, and I believe that we can learn all things through dance. So today, we're going to write letters and words with our movements and our bodies.  We're going to look at some words together, but if you have books or just know what words and letters look like in different languages and alphabets, then you can use those two. We are going to start by drawing pathways. In dance, we think about how a shape can be straight or curvy or zigzagged, and the pathway that we use just follows that shape.  When we read, we look at the shapes that letters make and have to remember what those look like, like the letter T. When we write, we have to be able to draw the letter on the paper. So we trace the pathway that those lines make. Let's trace the pathway of some letters together. We're going to start with a straight pathway that goes up and down, like the letter I. Let's do it all together, up and down. Now we're gonna make a curvy pathway, like the letter O. Let's do a curvy circle. You can make it as big or as small as you want. That was a big one, but we could draw a little O too. Now a zigzag can go back and forth, or it can go up and down. We can draw a letter Z with a back and forth zigzag. Let's do that all together, Z. And we can draw a W with an up and down zigzag. Let's try that all together, W. Good. Now let's draw a few letters in order. We're gonna put them together and see if they make a word. When we do this, I want you to think about making these letters as big as you can. So let's start way up high above our heads and draw a huge curve to make the letter C. Let's do that one more time together. C. And then we're going to make a letter A, starting down low and there's kind of a zigzag at the top, and a line across the middle. And then we'll make the letter T, big line across and a line going down. C, A, T. Let's put all of them together and see if we can think of what word that spells. Start up high and draw the letter C. Next letter, A. Next letter, T. C, A, T. What does that spell? That's right, we spelled the word cat. Now we're gonna spell one more word altogether. We're going to spell your name. Well, I'm going to spell my name and you can spell yours. This is what my name looks like, Chiara. It has five letters, C-I-A-R-A, Chiara. Your name might look different from mine. This is a good time in our lesson.  If you can close your eyes and think about what your name looks like, that's all you need. We are going to spell our names together, but instead of writing it on a piece of paper, we're going to dance it in the air. My name has five letters, so my name dance will have five movements. Yours might be different from mine, and that's amazing. All right, let's get started. The first letter in my name is a C. What's the first letter in your name? The second letter in my name is an I. What's the second letter in your name? The next letter in my name is an A. And after that, I have an R. Last letter in my name is another A. You might have more letters than me, so you can keep going if you're not done yet. We're going to do our names all together one more time, spelling every letter in our name, and then we're going to make it a little trickier. Are you ready? Here we go. First letter, C, I, A. We are going to do our names one more time, but now we're going to make it a little more exciting with our dancing. We're going to think about the fact that we don't need to write with our finger and our arm. We can write with any part of our body. You could write with your elbow, or you could write with your head, or you could write with your toe on the floor below you, or even your knee on the floor.  You have so many options. Your body can do so many amazing things. So we're going to think about using a different part of our body for every single movement in our dance. We're just going to come up with it on our own in the moment. So I'm going to come over here and do the first letter of my name with my elbow, a letter C. What did you decide? I'm going to do a jump for my letter I. You might do something different. For my letter A, I'm going to draw it on the floor with my toe.  And then for my next letter A, I'm going to use my knee. What did you decide for all of your letters? Let's do them all together one more time. This is your name dance. Are you ready? First letter, second letter. Third letter, fourth letter. And keep going if you're not done yet. You might have ended before me too. Thank you so much for doing that really fun activity with me. Now we only spelled one word today. We spelled our names, but there are so many more words in the world, in English and in every other language. You could spell your name in a different language too. We talked about what my name looks like, but I have a favorite word. My favorite word is wonder. I could do a dance spelling my favorite word. Do you have a favorite word? You could make a dance to spell that. How would you choose what body parts to use? Or where to write the letters? There are so many ideas to play with and however you choose to do that, I hope you have fun. I'm Kiara with Moving Minds Dance and today we wrote words with our bodies. You can do that wherever you are with new words and with more words. You could even write a whole sentence. But I hope you have fun if you do. Come back and dance with me again soon.


Good morning, Kevin. Good morning, Story. It's good to hear some really good music for a change. Well, certainly is about a grand place. As, oh, thank you, baby, you said it's one heck of a town. I used to discover it with an internet answer. And go ahead. This is a question from Kathleen Blum of Houston, Texas. And she wanted to know whether the deployment of this TDR satellite would make the COE smaller or eliminated altogether. The answer is that it will not change the size of the zone of exclusion. The satellite will be checked out over the next several months and then be positioned as a ready spare. This is the last of a series of TDRS satellites to complete the current network. And some of the original satellites are reaching the end of their expected lifetime. Therefore, this will be put into a spare position and called into service when needed. Thanks, Tom. This is Mission Control Houston, the northern coast of Australia now coming into view of Discovery's payload bay camera. Cameras are being controlled by the instrumentation and communications officer here in the new Mission Control Center. As the crew continues to step through its post-sleep activities getting ready to go to work. On the day night, inside a day portion of Florida, we did pick up the SLF and it appeared to be the only cloudless spot in Florida. We hope that remains the same through Friday morning. And coming across Mexico during the night, we could see cities with naked eye but could not acquire them in the Hercules. The BDS is made up of a device developed here at the Johnson Space Center that uses a rotating cylinder to suspend cells and tissues in a growth medium simulating some of the aspects of microgravity. The system which is already being used extensively in ground-based research also provides for gas and nutrient exchange for the cells. The purpose of this experiment on the flight is to demonstrate the performance of this bioreactor in microgravity. Trying to assess the fluid dynamic characteristics of the bioreactor. The experiment and what we're seeing right now are colon cancer cells that are being grown within the bioreactor chamber. And Discovery Houston, you should have the first three tips pages on board. And for Kevin, we're looking at you down in the mid-deck. Kevin's actually on the flight deck holding the Hercules camera. So this is previously recorded. Getting him ready to hold the Hercules camera. Copy. Discovery's crew downlinking some previously recorded videotape of pilot Kevin Kriegel. Exercising on the bicycle ergometer on the shuttle's mid-deck. To the right of the picture, you can see the airlock entrance. You should now be getting a picture of this is a Tom operating DSO 904. It's a touchscreen evaluation. And you're right, Nancy. That's what we have. And Discovery, we're watching Tom doing the VFT. We're assuming some more videotape from the crew on board Discovery. This is Commander Tom Henrichs operating the visual function tester equipment, just recording his ability to respond to visual stimulus. Discovery Houston. For Mary Ellen, we're happy with the amount of video we've received so far. And just an additional note, the ground investigators are interested in the flow patterns that they're seeing in this phase one part of the experiment. And they're looking forward to phase two. I agree, Mark. And I will go ahead and cue up the tape to yesterday's. And maybe you can let me know if you can initiate that from the ground, we can start downlinking that. We're with you in the middeck, Kevin and Don. We got you loud and clear. Good day, USA. This is Houston. Please call Discovery for a voice check. Discovery, this is Good Day USA. I'm Doug Steffen. Hello. Doug, this is Kevin Craigle. And I have Don Thomas on my left. Welcome aboard Space Shuttle Discovery. That was very exciting for us to be here. And very exciting for the audience to have a chance to have a conversation with you. First of all, let's talk a little to Kevin. Can we do that? Let's find out as much as we can about Kevin because this is his first space flight, correct? That's correct. Tell us about you, Kevin. OK. Myself, I grew up on Long Island, New York. I was an Air Force officer for 12 years. Military pilot, test pilot. I joined NASA in 1990 with an instructor pilot and a research pilot. Came an astronaut in 1992. And I've been training ever since. And this is my first mission. I'm married with four beautiful kids. How long have you been training for this particular flight? And in general, how long have you been training for the career that you have now as an astronaut? Well, for this particular mission, we started training about 10 months ago. As far as being an astronaut, I guess I'm one of the newer folks in the office that dreamed of being an astronaut when they were very little. Of course, the original folks never could dream of being astronauts because they didn't know there was such a thing. But I guess I've been hoping to be an astronaut since I was about eight or nine years old. What is your specific mission, Kevin? That is the things that you're working on as a mission specialist. Okay, well, I'm a pilot, so I'm the backup to the commander. My primary responsibility is to backup the commander during an asset and entry and to take care of all the orbiter systems. I'm also doing some secondary experiments just before we went on the air. I was taking care of an experiment called Hercules, which is a digital video camera taking pictures of the Earth and of land and the sea. Now, the things that you have to do... I'm looking at the background on you. The things that you have to do are... They basically... We have... Okay, I got it. I'm getting some communication from some of the people at the mission control. The things that you are involved in doing are the things that benefit us as far as health are concerned. I know you're working on the environment. Child people, I think some of the people listening to this program are interested in the benefits that they get from these missions that are not well known. Okay, well, our primary objective of this mission was to deploy a tracking and data relay satellite, which we did on the first day. And that satellite is used for a space communication network. And it's the last of a series. And that was a primary mission for flying. But we had a lot of extra room in the mid-deck. And once we went to the expense of getting the shuttle in space, we had these smaller experiments which have a lot of potential benefits for mankind. We have one that's working very well. That's a bioreactor. And it's growing living tissue. And the hope is that we'll be able to grow tissue a little bit better here in space and perhaps one day be able to grow some replacement organs. That's in the future. We'll also have some crystal growth experiments that we're growing. We're able to grow bigger crystals that can be used for drugs to help out cancer research and help out patients that way. We have another experiment that is going to grow a microbe in capsules. And what that's used for is for pills that you can take and then perhaps in a shot that you can take. And instead of taking a shot every day for insulin, maybe only have to take a shot once a month because it has very small-time release capsules in it. We're also doing another one called NIH which is looking at the skeletal structural which will help perhaps in people with osteoporosis. So there's quite a few secondaries that we're looking at. All right, let's spend a few minutes talking to Don Thomas who is on his second flight as a mission specialist. Don, welcome to Good Day USA. Good morning. It's a pleasure to be here. It's nice to have you here. Tell us a little about you and where you're from and the same sort of thing that Kevin gave us. I was born in 1955 in Cleveland, Ohio. I went to Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, got a bachelor's degree in physics, went on to Cornell University in Central New York, and got my PhD in material science. I'm a materials engineer, a crystallographer background. I worked for AT&T Bell Laboratories for six years in New Jersey and moved down to Houston in 1988 where I worked as a materials engineer. I'm married and I have a five-month-old little boy. It was home waiting for me to get back. Congratulations. Have you, as a matter of course, or the other members of the crew, had conversations with your family? Can you do that when you're in space? Yes, we can. We had one opportunity during the mission to have a private conference with our families.  We've been in quarantine a week before the mission and then being up here for a week or so. It's a long time away from home, and it's good to talk to the kids and your wife and everybody else back home. This makes it feel a little bit part of the family again. Your first mission was about a year ago at this time, wasn't it? That's right, it was exactly a year ago that I was up on STS-65, and that was a 15-day mission last summer. And how much different is the job that you're performing this time from what you had to do last year? Last summer, I was on a space lab, which is a science module that we have in the back of the payload bay here and we conducted 84 different experiments from around the world. We had 15 different countries participating. So I was busy the whole time performing experiments during the 15-day flight. This mission, as Kevin mentioned, our primary objective was deploying the tracking and data relay satellite. As you know, this is critical for all the images of the Hubble Space Telescopes. Every time you see one of those great pictures from Saturn or Uranus or one of the other planets or galaxies out there, those are all being transmitted to the capabilities of the tracking and data relay satellite. And so in this mission, it's a little different. We were deploying a satellite. Now we're working on these smaller mid-deck experiments for the remainder of our flight. The kids that watch you in space, that follow you, are inspired usually. I have been doing a program with NASA, bringing Jay Honeycutt and Mike McCulley and some other former astronauts around to schools here and there in the country because I believe very strongly what NASA does. How do you, fellas, the people, the men and women of the crews themselves, get around and get your message around so that kids will really understand what you are doing while you're out in space? We have an amateur radio on board. We have an experiment called SARACS. It's the Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment. And it's specifically designed for astronauts here in orbit to talk to students on the ground. And during our mission, we've made contact, we will make contact with eight different schools from around the world. We've talked to Argentina. We've talked to a school yesterday. Kevin did up in Schenectady at the Schenectady Museum. And as I said, we have eight schools that we're talking with students from answering their questions. And it's so much fun for us to share our enthusiasm with them and to try to get them motivated to learn more about science and math and maybe, you know, become future astronauts here. We're talking to Mission Specialist Donald Thomas who's on his second shuttle flight. And Kevin Kriegel is on his first shuttle flight from Discovery. Where exactly are you? If you look out the window, tell us where you are. What do you can see right now? Right now, we're coming up over southern Florida just heading out over the Caribbean. We go around the Earth every 90 minutes or so and we're 160 miles above the Earth. That's kind of a low orbit, is it not? Actually, no, that's about our standard orbit is 160. We have gone down as low as around 105 during some of the Earth's observations. And we'll go up to as high as almost 300 to service the Hubble Space Telescope. Yeah, I thought that the average was around 200 to 20, 230 in there. What difference explain to the audience what difference it makes, whether you're at 160 or whether you're at 200 miles or I know the 300-mile thing is for things like the Hubble that are out there far, but what different sensations and what can you see differently at 160 miles? You can't see at 220. Last summer, I was at 160 miles up for 14 days and the last day of our mission, we dropped down to 135 miles and that 25-mile difference was just spectacular. The ground seemed so much closer to us, the detail that you can see. I could see runways at airports and almost the marking, the numbers on the runway from 135 miles up. So the farther out you go, you lose a little bit of detail on the ground, but then again, you gain the perspective, the global perspective of the planet Earth. You have brought some Windex with you. I don't know that you really did, but what's the window experiment that I've been reading about? Well, the window experiment, in fact, Nancy Curry is setting it up. We've already done one day to take today and we'll do another. It's a look at the environment and space that we're at actually does have some molecules out here. And so we're looking at the interaction of the shuttle and the shuttle's jets with the very thin tenuous atmosphere that we have to try to understand it better from just a physics perspective, but also on a practical perspective when we dock with the Russian space station as we did earlier this year and when we dock with the International Space Station, we want to know what kind of effects the plumes will have on that station and how we can protect against that. You have a new engine in Discovery, do you not? We sure do. Have the block one engine. It worked like a champ. It had a new turbo pump on it, which brings down the wells from a couple of hundred to just a hand fell, which anyone who does any kind of maintenance knows that that should make it a more reliable system as far as the performance from our aspect. It worked just perfect. And we're looking forward to putting three of them on the shuttle, I guess, in September. All right, can we go back and talk to Kevin for a second? Actually, I want to talk to the two of you together as you live closely in the environment. You're five people distinct to have all different backgrounds. Have you become friends and do you become friends because of the work that you do together or do they actually put you together because you all seem to work well together? Well, I think it's probably one of the traits they try to do when they do the selection is folks that can work together well as a team because it is a close environment. And we've been working well together for the last nine months. I have to correct you, though, that the backgrounds aren't that varied. We have four people from Ohio and I'm from New York, so I'm the only one who has to really try to fit in. That's right, this was the so-called Ohio crew, as I recall. That's correct. Well, we have stations all over Ohio, Columbus, Toledo, Dayton, Cincinnati, and the suburban Cleveland area that are hearing you right now, so it should be like old home week. What day are we in, Kevin? Are we in the fifth or sixth day of the mission? I really had to think about that because when you go through 16 sunrises and sunsets every day, it gets kind of confusing. But we're in the late morning of flight day six. Okay, so you have not only the Windex operation scheduled today, but you were talking about Hercules and the Bioreactor demonstration system. Do these continue every day like tomorrow and then the eighth day and so forth? Will you be working on all these things for the rest of the mission? That's correct. We'll be kept busy the rest of the mission, doing all the secondary experiments, getting as much data as we can for the investigators. And then the day before landing is passed with basically tidying up, putting away the experiments, and getting the orbiter ready to come home. And so if I asked you to give us the things that this experience, both Don and Kevin, this experience means what to you personally? For me personally, this is my second flight and it's a dream come true for me.  So to have a little boyhood dream and to be living it now is just the best thing that can happen to you in life. On a personal note, what I'm taking away from this mission is working with these great people on the STF-70 crew. These are friendships, so I'll have the rest of my life I know. And the images that I have in my head right now of the planet Earth as we go around it, when you're flying 160 miles above it in the shuttle, you really get a perspective of the Earth as a planet. When you can look out and see the moon out there, you can see the Milky Way, the moon also. So you really get a sense of the solar system here that we're in. And as we fly over the blue water of the planet Earth and look over the continents, it's just a great perspective to bring back to the planet. Well, we want to thank you gentlemen. We've enjoyed this. This has been our first on Good Day USA and I hope it will not be the last. I hope that both of you, if you want to stay in space, are able to do so. Kevin Kriegel, astronaut Don Thomas, enjoying the view and the work from Discovery. Houston, Good Day USA. This concludes this event. And we are with you in the mid-deck. Okay, so Houston, it's actually prerecorded. We're shorted through the flight deck. Okay. This is Mission Control Houston. We're expecting to get some videotape downlink video of the window strike reported earlier. Apparently a micro meteoroid hit the corner of one of the shuttle windows. Of course, the daylight makes a little more dramatic than it really is. So, after this daylight, we took some under a flashlight and we'll show that at the end. Copy, Tom. And can you gauge any kind of depth? It looked like maybe a 30 seconds from an inch. It's tough to tell depth because we can't get close to it either. In fact, it's about the same angle you're seeing here. That's as close as we can get. Copy. MS-1 said he'd be glad to go check it from the outside. And this is just to show you where it is in the window. Up the left-hand corner. Okay. Houston, we did have a flight delay getting off the ground but once we got into orbit, we were ready to go right to work. And one of the first things that we found on orbit was an extra crew member that had come along and we heard that there was some relation to this crew member that was also participating in the control activities at the new MCC. As you can see, he was happy to come along and really had a smile at MECO. And at MECO, the first sensation, as you know, is the relaxation of G. After three Gs, you're happy to get out of the helmet. It's more difficult for some than others but once out, you're floating free. And right after we get up on orbit, it's really important to document the condition of the external tank and you can see this crew member is doing an excellent job of tracking the external tank as it falls back to Earth to burn up in the atmosphere. Had some particular interest in that tank, do you think? I think so. And I'm more serious about six crew members been helping us with some of our secondary experiments. This is the NIHR experiment looking at mammalian development and developmental changes induced by microgravity. There's another experiment that this crew member was helping us out with and during this fight, we managed to grow some outstanding human cells, human tissues, and you can see this crew member about to take a sterile cell culture right now. I think it's always a good idea to learn a lot of that. If I want to board, we were able to make a lot more CERICS contacts at the Stel amateur radio experiment in which we're contacting eight schools from around the world and talking with hundreds of students trying to get them enthusiastic about the space program and get them steered towards engineering and science fields. The next experiment you'll see our crew member monitoring is the CPCP, which is a protein crystal growth experiment, growing crystals of alpha-interserum, which is an anti-viral, anti-cancer fighting drug. We're really excited about the crystals we're growing and hopefully we'll bring back some good science for the experiment at the University of Alabama at Birmingham. There's microcapsules in space. An experiment we're going to activate tonight and let it run overnight, in which we'll be producing some microcapsules of hampacillin and hydrate, which is a drug that we use for antibiotics. The STLB experiment, which is a space tissue loss experiment, we're applying these embryos, in this case mesocintins, and looking again at developmental changes induced by microgravity. And we've already been told they've been noticing significant changes between the ground control study embryos and ours on board. So the extra crew member is doing the Hercules experiment, which is a digital video camera used to geolocate different targets on the Earth and a little bit of problems with it, but we've got some good multi-spectral data and also some panachromatic data looking at the Earth. The other experiment that's also using a zion-type camera, as in the Hercules, is the window at the particles around the altar, which will help us understand the physics here in low space orbit and also help us with the documentation. The internet completes the downlink so we hope this draws some attention to the secondaries that we have on board. And we did appreciate to help our sixth crew member in bringing all the benefits of the secondaries to light. And if we have any more work for them, we'll send that down later. Copy that discovery, and it's obvious that with the high level of activity on board, it was handy having that extra crew member to help out. We also think that we understand now the alignment problems with Hercules. And we'd like you to check that your extra crew member is not going outside. We think that might explain the W-6 ding. Exactly. At the W-6 ding, we think was to do this crew member and we're also suspicious of him pecking into power cord for the vacuum cleaner. I think we can absolve all the other crew members of blame in this flight.


Yes, bonsoir à tous. So welcome everyone at Buchmania. It's as usual for a long time, really good to be here and to see the usual faces in the new commas. And yeah, it feels like being back to the mothership and to spend a week with our fellow aliens and have the discussion and the good feelings that give you energy for the full year. So thank you everyone. So we are here this afternoon standing between you and the happy hour to talk a little bit about movement strategy but before we do that we thought it would be worthwhile to look back on the past year. So if we could, I think the lights are gonna go down and we're gonna watch a movie. I am vision of Wikipedia that is inclusive, that is gender balance and that is locally relevant. I see that with the increasing automation and growth in technologies like OCR, speech-to-text, artificial intelligence, the very basis of the movement that is the collectivism would be disrupted in a massive way. Let's celebrate how big and diverse an international movement we are. The Wikimedia conference gathers a lot of people who are involved in planning strategic meetings and things like that to build bridges between different user groups and affiliates and it brings us all together to exchange ideas and to think strategically about the movement, about our movement, where we are heading. My wish is that we will be successful in this process and we can actually have people on board the whole way and actually have this inclusive strategy that we are dreaming of for the whole movement. Movement strategy update now. It's time for them. Hello, hello. Ah, yes, okay.  There was a board meeting in November in which the board said this seems like a good way to move forward and now we are here at the end of, it's February, right, at the end of February with Wikimedia coming up, annual planning in the works. We've been having a lot of conversations with folks here in this room, with folks in our community and ultimately come to a few goals for movement strategy and I just want to review those quickly, identify a cohesive or coherent direction that aligns us all and inspires us around what it is that we might do, build trust, goodwill and alignment within our movement. Part of the outcome is the process itself. Better understanding the people and institutions that make up our movement. Build a shared understanding of what it means to be a movement. Building relationships that expand and enrich our movement over time. Today I'm going to talk to you about something very exciting that has been happening for the past months. We have been incorporating new voices to the conversation and by new voices we mean experts, we mean thought leaders, we mean partners, we mean allies. But the most exciting part is that a lot of affiliates across the globe are also engaging in this process and they're organizing their own events. So far we've had events in Chile, in Côte d'Ivoire, in Poland. This is the consensus findings that we have to date. Wikimedia should be an influencer in shaping world policy for access to knowledge. Inclusivity and new representation can be only forged on lower barriers to entry as learning platforms evolve we need to think beyond the encyclopedia. Knowledge sharing is highly social. Privacy and anonymity are still relevant. You could say about it doesn't matter if we don't all understand but why are you here in Ukraine? My name is Zipro Zipro, and in English, I was invited here. I have a lot of knowledge about Wikimedia. It means on Wikimedia you can find almost everything you want to know about the world. We need to bring more educational resources, more educational networks to collaborate with Wikimedia and its projects. Most of the time there is this issue that Africans don't get a chance to see their own story. My ambition has always been to get more content around Ghana and Africa on Wikimedia and make it accessible to the world. It's also my wish that in the near future we can successfully make every Wikipedian feel less alone. I would like to see more people involved from different regions in different continents and different contributors because at the very end we are all human beings and we have knowledge that has to be shared. Get all the content from all the societies, all the communities in the world, make Wikimedia a truly global knowledge resource. I think we could give a second round of applause to Victor Grigas. We put the video together and to all the people that were listed in the 10 or 20-second credits at the end from comments that contributed to make that video happen too. So Wikimedia is just starting. It's been a day. Some people have been there for a little longer. But the fact is we have already been having a lot of discussions from breakfast to the end of the night for some of us. But our hopes, our dreams, our fears, our expectations for our movement and our project. And the thing is we have been doing that for years. It's not the first. It's something we have done that we have done that since the very beginning. I had this discussion for more than 10 years. I've been with Arne and Alice here in London in their weird bar until three or four o'clock in the night. I had them with Nicole. I'm not going to list that because we have had that discussion like four or five times a year. I have them with Florence and Delphine in Taiwan drinking almanac. Really good French alcohol. Until three or four o'clock in the night. And this is our discussion. We have been keep having and having and having a lot across the years. That's yours. Oh, and yes, sorry. Thank you. And even with Achal, I don't know if he's around. I haven't seen him yet or he's not. On the beach in Israel talking about our station that was back in 2011, I think. So do that discussion. We have been repeating having what Christophe for mine. Am I now I am what Christophe was saying to me earlier is that we have been having conversations one on one about the future of our movement and our hopes and our goals and aspirations since the beginning of the projects. And in fact, this is the very first time I ever met Christophe at Wikimedia conference in 2009. And you can see we are having a very intense conversation about the future of the projects. But so although I am newer to the movement than he is, I have also had these conversations with Lucy from Wikimedia UK walking down the street on the way to the tube one night in London with Adele in Barcelona visiting our Catalan Wikimediants with Maria on many long Google Hangouts about what our hopes and fears would be and Abraham about the future of Wikidata and what we can be and build in the world. So these conversations. Oh, I almost forgot someone really special. Yeah, yeah. And of course, with Anna Suga Singupta, who has been a mentor and a guide to all of us as we think about our future. And the fact is a year ago back in Italy, we asked ourselves what if what if you instill the dreaming of this conversation with these ops of and having this discussion one on one? What if we had that conversation altogether? What if we could capture this discussion? What if we could foster them and build on them? What if we could have this discussion with new people from community meetups in Cote d'Ivoire, our policymaker in Brazil? What if we were spreading that discussion from local communities to the global movement? What if we were trying to build a shared and common platform to use the thing that makes us so unique, the thing that makes us so special, our curiosity, our hopes, our dreams, our commitment, our optimism to build a future for our movement to define a shared strategic direction? What if we went full Wikimedian and spent eight months discussing the answer? What if we dug into data, read the research, understood, interviewed, had conversations on Wiki, on Telegram, on Facebook, everywhere, in all of these different languages and tried to use this to build some sort of shared understanding? Yes, there would be citations. Yes, it might be disputed. Yes, we might realize that there are further conversations to have, but we could use our strengths to identify and understand our future. And then at the end that we could write it together and create something aspirational, something that helps us understand the future impact that we can have on the world, that allows us to fully embrace the remarkable thing that this community has created and think about what that next remarkable thing might be. And actually that is what has happened in the last eight months. That is what you saw in the video and today and the coming weeks actually, but we are running the last mile of that product. We are going to bring all of that together. And the thing is, a year ago when we said, we asked the question, what if? And we were kind of meeting resistance or at least doubt or interrogations. And we promised that. Questions. And questions, yes. And we said that by this year, we would be sharing with you the results of these discussions that you all had all across the globe. So we're going to do that. We're going to share the results of those discussions. But before we do, I want to thank you all. I want to thank you for coming with us on this journey over the past year. I want to thank the thousands of Wikimedians and it has been thousands who have contributed and commented in your languages, in your communities and on your projects. The individual contributors who have offered their critique, mostly constructively, of our future direction. The affiliates who have hosted salons and conversations and stayed, oh, no, that was the critiques. The experts from museums, from the media, from technology, from social movements, from education and policy who sat with us and offered their vision and their time because they so believe in what it is that we have to bring to the world. The board that supported the vision, the cuteness association here with us on stage. I want that endorsement cuteness association wherever you are. The regional conferences that brought strategy conversation into your agendas. And of course, the whole big and sprawling strategy team. And I also want to take a moment to specifically recognize our colleagues from Wiki and Daba and the Ibero co-op. Because they offered us a very specific vision of the future in two letters that were sent over the course of the last six months. The letter to Catherine from the Wiki and Daba community and the Cartagena Buenos Aires from the Ibero co-op community. And the vision that they articulated was a world in which every single human can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. But also a world in which their communities had a powerful voice in our movement and were represented through a truly diverse global movement that acknowledges and understands local context and supports and builds off that to make us all stronger. So right before we went on stage, the responses to those letters have been posted and I want to thank you all. So anything is the discussion that happened in the last eight months. They were really broad, really diverse. They were reflecting of our home diversity in our own communities. But at the end of the day, they were all coming down together to some shared understanding that was kind of, well, that was shared all across the globe from Ghana to Germany to Canada to Asia to South America or everywhere.  One of them is that there was and there still is an eagerness to reaffirm that we are about open knowledge. But there was so an eagerness to say that it is not just about open knowledge as it is today because there was a recognition that there is gaps in the knowledge we are having right now and that we should feel that those gaps. Oops, sorry. I talked with my hands in French. So there was also a profound wish to express that we needed to be, for the communities to be mindful, to be there to provide a space for anyone that wanted to jump into our product and contribute the way they want. And ultimately, to all that happened, that if we want all that to happen and to truly become a global movement in the most noble sense of global, it also means that we will need to have global footprint that is highly distributed and that is always taking into account the local cultural constraints and context that might exist. So how did we write it all down? Oh, more Wikimedia. Well, it came together as this and I am going to read, I apologize, I haven't memorized it yet, that the Wikimedia movement will become and transform ourselves to be and fully embrace this idea that we are the roads, bridges and villages that support the world's journey toward free knowledge, that we, the Wikimedia movement, will forge the tools and build the foundations for creating and accessing trusted knowledge in many shapes and many colors, that our networks of people and systems will connect with individuals and with institutions to share knowledge through open standards and structures and support these institutions and individuals on the journey to openness and collaboration, that we, the Wikimedia movement will be a leading advocate and partner for sharing curation and participation in free and open knowledge. So this is a draft version, right? We have been talking throughout the course of the day and yesterday and we'll continue to over the course of the next two days with all of you in the strategy salons about how we can improve this and how we can make it more understandable, more translatable, easier to interpret over the course of finalizing it at the end of this month. Yes, we are in August, so the end of August, but I wanted to ask you, Christoph, what does this direction mean to you? Oh, thank you for the question. Very surprising. So yes, in the past two days and especially today we have been listening to people and questions and interrogations and about the draft strategic direction. And so to me that strategic direction is about something that are more important to me than the rest. The first thing is it's not about encyclopedia, it's about knowledge with capital K, which means that it can take very diverse ways, very diverse form. It's also about opening doors and windows so that we go outside and meet the world, but also that we open doors and windows to let the world come inside and jump into our product and movement. It's also, it also means that in that strategic direction it also means that we will, we have people around the globe that we know and are friends and we are really happy to see them. But now in that strategic direction it also means that we're going to work with these people and we're going to work with them because they are like-minded organizations, like-minded movement, like-minded people and work with them not just talk and be friends with them. And one of the things that is happening tomorrow is that you will have a session, I think it's in the afternoon, with three of the executive directors of three of the main open culture organizations. So Catherine, that you know, from the Wikimedia Foundation and then the executive directors from Mozilla Foundation and Creative Commons. And this is kind of an example of exactly for me what is in that strategic direction. It's more than just meeting them and having drinks and good evenings. It's also being in the same room, talking and debating and working together. And also this strategic direction, this draft direction is bringing with it opening possibilities in terms of tech. The way we are, again, it's about knowledge capital K and this means that perhaps it's not it's time to think outside just texts or pictures or trying to do some videos because well videos and comments. And to think about other technologies what is, is there fields we need to explore, I don't know in VR, AR, is there any way we could structure data differently as we are trying with Wikidata but go beyond that, go beyond that with every single content we have. I don't know if we can, perhaps we could. And this is about it. It is about opening possibilities and opportunities to us, to every single one of us. But what about you Catherine? Also a very unexpected question. I mean, I agree with you Kristoff. I think that it's not just Thank you. You didn't even let me finish. It's not just about the technology in terms of the back end and the infrastructure and how we structure our data. It's also about how we reach people who are not currently coming to the Wikimedia websites, right? Who are not, the browser for whom the browser is not the primary way they communicate and access information in the world. How do we go beyond that? How do we follow these pathways and these roads perhaps beyond roads? How do we follow pathways that aren't not paved, that barely exist that are unmarked to reach people where they are as opposed to we're asking them to come to us? So I think different devices, different interfaces, different experiences, maybe no devices at all. This is really exciting. I also think, you know, and that is very much about building for the users that we serve. I also think that it recognizes that diversity is the key to our success. That if we really do want to be a support system or the essential infrastructure for open knowledge, that's going to look different in the different communities that we're a part of and so we need to be able to ensure that we're open to all sorts of different voices in order to understand their needs and then build to meet them. So count me in on diversity as part of the key part of the strategic direction. I think it also recognizes that we have a responsibility in the world. I think the number that always sort of blows my mind is that there are the Wikimedia projects receive visits from about 1.4 billion unique devices every single month, which means that so many people use us and so many people rely on us and there is a responsibility inherent in that and I'd love for us to stand up and say this responsibility also comes with responsibility, right, which means that we have a role to play, we have a vision to articulate, that we can be a powerful partner and advocate and voice, that although we have always been content to be open as Wikimedia, we want the world to be open too and we're going to do our best to convince them and conjure them and advocate and push to make the world a more open place where knowledge is more freely shared because knowledge is fundamentally powerful and that I think is one of the reasons why we're all here. And I think that, I mean I sort of have alluded to it, but that we, as a community, it's not about building a product, it is about transforming ourselves so that we are the support structure, we are this infrastructure, we are here as this neutral trusted reliable party that so many organizations can agree to work with, can agree to partner with, feel good about partnering with and then that we offer them value in return, not just by making more things available on our projects but ensuring that more people are able to see all of the wonderful information that exists in archives, in academic libraries, in other institutions that is available to the world so that more people can fully share in it. But, Christophe and I didn't write the strategic direction, you did, this is not about the two of us, this is about all of us together. And so we've talked at you for about 10 minutes but we want to shake up the format, no more formal keynote. You may have noticed that there are more chairs on this stage than people and what we thought is in light of the fact that we had a collaborative strategic direction, let's have a collaborative interpretation of what it means. And so we wanted to invite four other Wikimedians up here to join us to talk a little bit about how what they see, what their vision of this future actually means and they represent very different communities, very different languages, very different projects, very different hopes, aspirations, individual contributors, affiliates, and at least five languages, at least. So with that... So please welcome Yvonne Martinez from Wikimedia Mexico, Merva Salam from Wikimedia, the Wikimedians of Le Bon. I'm French, Le Bon. I know, I know. Magnus Menx, I don't know, Magnus Menx, I'm not sure I need to present him. He's kind of the rock star. And Anastasia Sangupita from With Knowledge. And Yvonne will be moderating our conversation, so... Yeah. Thanks so much, Catherine. And Christopher made this possible, I think. We want to run an informal conversation. But first, I want to present... I know that many of us knows about these amazing persons that I love and respect too much. But I want only to first present who are here in this great panel. We're centering the marginalized, give us a minute. First, Merva Salam has been an editor on Wikimedia since 2012 and has been an Arabic Wikipedia since 2013. Also, she's a founding member of Wikimedians of Le Bon, user group, and active member of the global Wikimedia community, of course. She's also organized the 2015 Wikirabia. Let's clap for her. Magnus Menx, of course, is a senior staff scientist at the Wellcome Trustsanger Institute in Cambridge, UK, and a software developer of one of the first versions of the Media Wiki software. Magnus has worked at the Wellcome Trustsanger Institute since April 2007 and remains an active contributor to Wikipedia and its sister projects Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons. And Anastasia Sengupta is the co-founder of Whose Knowledge, Global Campaign, which aims to correct the skewed representation of knowledge on the Internet. She has worked in India across the global south and internationally for over 20 years and previously, and maybe you remember, previously worked as a chief randomly making officer at the Wikimedia Foundation. We want to open the conversation first with the one open question, I think, one more open question for each of us. So what does the Merva, what does this vision of Wikimedia 2030 means for you and for your communities? All right, so as I come from an emerging community that represents millions of people, we know that we are still getting step by step and we need to be involved in all decisions that will be made to establish a stable and cohesive and sustainable base or platform based on which we can build. So as an emerging committee we think that there are opportunities and there are also challenges that we have to come over them. So we need to collaborate together, collaborate with other communities and collaborate with the organization and local communities and external communities to come over all challenges that we know are there and open channels through which we can reach the knowledge that we know it's there but it's not open maybe. So there are a lot of chances for us to go on and build something that will last maybe forever, not only for 30 years. Thanks so much Merva. And for you Magnus. Well I'll take a viewpoint of technology more than people and I think we do have some challenges coming up. There are billions of people going to join the internet and access media, Wikimedia projects through mobile devices primarily. There are also other ways that Wikipedia has access now. Google and Amazon have their speech devices you talk to and ask questions and they use our content but both formats don't really lend themselves for the traditional long text editing of Wikipedia and so we need to find some ways to accommodate this and get people to find our project and contribute to that through these new formats through mobile phones through speech through text and so on. I think we also have some challenges that companies do use our content but not link back to us. We need to present a more attractive target and I think the way to do that is not to get people to comments or to Wikipedia or to to Wikidata but to one project that joins all these things together and there's a strength in there that is I think very attractive one that's presented in the right way where people can get the text and they can get the files and they can get the data and they can get the sources all in one place. Yeah that's a concern that emerged in many opinions in the strategy about that's a equity of technology devices and new codes and the things that we come in the future no in the internet thanks and for you Ana Suya. Monica and Adab and many other languages of those here. I think it's been really interesting for me and the communities that I'm both embedded in and work with to think about the strategic process as a process not just about the future but about the now and so I'm going to try and combine in a way Meravats talk of people and communities and Magnus is the Magnus oh my god I'm sitting next to the Magnus. Magnus is of technology because essentially our strategic direction has to be about both we are an intensely political socio-technical system we're an intensely political socio-technical movement and for me the affirmation about being truly global is an affirmation and it is an intention but I also want to remind us that for most of the world it is the now it's not the future. 75 percent of the population that is online today is from the global south and if anyone has got their bingo cards global south there I gave it to you. That 75 percent is not represented online on the internet through their knowledge through their histories through the design and architecture of the internet and unfortunately certainly not on our projects yet and so even as we think about the future I think about the now deeply and what are the ways in which we can bring our communities both on Wikipedia who are already on Wikipedia and those who still need to be on Wikipedia together in this strategic direction of infrastructure and service. I really like the fact that we're talking about it as infrastructure because I think there's a way in which we need to move from seeing ourselves as product and being in service as you said earlier Catherine to the world. We are in service to the world about and through free and open knowledge and we are in service to each other to bring ourselves online in the fullest way possible so that's the hope and aspiration I see. Thanks so much Anasuya for this intervention and considering the opinion of Anasuya Merbat what role do you see and the partnerships are playing in the in the strategy of Wikimedia. Okay so we compete each other so communities can't work individually we are a global community movement that should go hand in hand towards our directions and strategies so partnerships are important they have to be laid right you have to define your targeted partnerships well so that you can reach smoothly. We know that there are difficulties there are failures but we have to learn from each other from our success stories and from what happened during these long years how we can benefit from the the movements the success that have been made to to move on I mean with with stable steps and this partnership is really needed because communities cannot be closed or capsult so I mean each community have their own plans and these plans have to be shared and strengthen and we know that partnerships maybe between the communities themselves people who are presented here are okay but we have other open space to do more partnerships with external parties the universities the organizations here and there we know that they can benefit the organization and movement they have things to to cooperate with but we have to learn how to get to them directly we have to get the interest I mean we have to uncover the interests they have we have to find this balance the when to when situation so that they really come happily and do these partnerships we are looking for yeah of course we don't know the precise routes we don't know exactly how we we will walk I mean there are trials some we have some success stories for example the partnership with UNESCO for example this was successful so we can benefit from how it was made people can't share I I don't know who who was on top of that but this was something good that we can study as a success story and we can mimic it right okay great Magnus in in a more technical part that you are deeply involved we know we many of us know about your all the your deployments your developments so what kind of technical changes it needs to happen in order for us to achieve this vision huh yeah big big question yeah no it's I think one one direction what we have already had lots of successes is mobile both in the mobile browser mobile app I think there's a lot of potential there especially we need to integrate the other projects beyond Wikipedia more because some of them actually lend themselves much better to mobile than long text on Wikipedia so for example comments uploads from mobile I think is something that's really needed and they would integrate with the nearby feature in the in the app and with the descriptions coming from Wikidata and so that's already merging together but I think there's a lot more room to develop there I think we should also not shy away from trying out maybe the odd outlandish sounding ID not going to give any examples but I think we are we're in a position right now where we are at the forefront of open knowledge and we are respected more or less in general and we can we have the we have the room to to experiment with things and to fail and say okay we tried the system doesn't work but this does and I think we should use it because this will not last forever and if you just continue the way we have I think that that trust and respect will slowly shrink over time if we don't do anything with it and if we don't explore that more thanks thanks for your your intervention Magnus and finally Nasuya what we need in your opinion your personal perspective to be a truly global movement because we well thanks for that Ivan it's a really simple answer you know Fatima Mirni see the Moroccan feminist to paraphrase her she once said dogma is when you ask a complex question and you get a simple answer so I'm not going to give you a simple answer and I don't think we should give ourselves simple answers but I want you to do a little exercise for me and then I will offer some thoughts some suggestions I want you to look at the person next to you on your right and on your left do they look like you do they look different do you know where they come from do you know their language do you know how they identify themselves do you know how they feel about being wikipedia nor wiki sorcerer or wiki voyager when this room is a room in which you look at each other and you're constantly surprised by who you sit next to we will be a truly global movement and we're not yet there so now I'm going to get wikipedia and a little just offer some details because you know hey I'm wikipedia and so you know the meta is all very well but let's talk some practicalities and I'd like to put it into I'll offer three examples maybe one is the fact that knowledge itself is if it has to be truly global it has to incorporate the knowledges of the world in a way that our community still struggles with when google did its somewhat ill fated project around google books they did a projection of how many books there are they projected 130 million books in 480 languages 20 percent of which I think are in the public domain right now there are over 7000 languages and dialects in our world today today every language represents a worldview most of our knowledge is oral is embodied and is not on wikipedia because our ways of thinking about references about reliability about verifiability about notability are all based on published peer reviewed methodologies that is not to say that that didn't get us it got us 15 16 years of an extraordinary extraordinary dream of a dream that was you know impossible theory and possible in practice yet it is not the way it is oops there we go uh someone's shutting down my voice uh oh uh oh uh no help um so strategy means or strategic directions mean tradeoffs what happens when the rubber hits the road what happens when we have to make decisions what happens when we're on wikipedia and we have to make decisions about oral citations are we going to show up to that conversation are we going to have it it's a complex difficult conversation but we need to have it languages i'm sitting here with amir right in front of me and i think about languages a lot 7000 languages in the world how do we do localization and integration in a way that makes sense to all of us you know i can say vanakam i can say namaskar i can say adab that sounds really great and i'm wearing a sari so yay but tamar bangla and urdu which are the three languages in which i said hello to you just now are in the top 20 languages they're not in our top 20 wikipedia's i love our esperanto community for instance but esperanto is the 32nd largest wikipedia if there were alien invasions tomorrow because of course you know with the orange ness in um in power that is very possible see another bingo i mentioned him convolutedly um but with an alien invasion tomorrow if they were to look at wikipedia as their way of understanding the world they would think that esperanto is the 32nd most important and spoken language in the world and what i would love to see is for our esperanto community who's fabulous by the way meet an esperanto wikipedia they're fabulous to yes there they are um to help me make my tamar my bangla and my urdu community is stronger how do we do that um what does it take how do we affirm each other if we are affirming each other through edits we have for instance across the world issues of bandwidth and electricity where most wikipedia's will create an article with one edit what happens when we acknowledge and uh affirm each other through article count or bytes does that completely change who we get on our scholarships to come to wikimania things to think about and finally safety and hospitality all of our cultures are deeply embedded in hospitality but what does it mean when you have a wikipedia who has 100 000 edits to their name and comes up and shows shows up as a harrasser or a troll on someone's wikipedia page because they're a woman or they're non-binary or they don't look like them are we going to turn around and say sorry we appreciate those 100 000 edits but you are no longer welcome here those are the trade-offs we have to make those are the decisions we are going to have to make if we truly want to be a global community and now back to you iban what do you think i'm just you told me that i'm only moderated or not so no i think uh my community one one some members of my community told me that uh the the girls who are performing a strong gender gap initiative told me that they know or they know perfectly what they want to achieve but it's some hard to express in in strategic concepts and this kind of this course so i think uh there's no there's no easy answer there's no easy way of of of say some things that we want in the in the in the terms of the future because we don't many of us don't have too much plans for 10 years or five years so it's it's hard to to say what we want in in 30 years but i think i'm very grateful when i talk it with with katharine in musio sumalia in the editon of 72 hours about this uh but she told me that i will explain you in a sheet no in a paper so she see yes you begin to to to to draw the strategy i said wow it's the very first time and i i feel that i can be part of this change like uh there there's some doubts about the the the the pillars with rule this movement and i have strong doubts about some concept that we assume as granted in this movement and i i say i i want to join that effort of strategy and being honest is more than we i supposed in that moment we talk it at the musio sumalia uh well we are getting some minutes i think only a few minutes yes five minutes uh just to to to end this this panel merbat how how does this start to become real this strategy in your context oh yeah so four months there have been discussions and for the the past two days i think there have been also too many discussions around the strategy and directions but what's next i mean we have the thoughts we have too many ideas and people identified their directions and objectives but what are we going to do and how we will um interpret all that into actions this is what's important so there's somehow focus on what agnes was saying about the technique technical things and such because yeah board changes rapidly so we have to run after the changes technologies and we have to decide where are we going in the coming years are we staying for example the desktop the mobile stuff how things change so we have to think also about how to do actions and quickly and for you magnus the same question how does this start to become real well i think that's uh i i i do agree uh with my neighbor here uh on uh on this and in a very pragmatic way it will be the same way we've done uh coding and wikipedia so far which is one line at a time um and in another way i think it's it's um i think we have to change uh some some of the pace so we have been chasing uh the the uh the now for a while on on uh wiki media and especially in the technology there was a lack where uh technology didn't really improve with the rest of the internet and uh i know we're still catching up but i think we need to do more than that i think we need to at least in some points try to get ahead of the game uh and even even if that fails uh we need to um try and we need to show that we are still there and not just just following uh everyone else a few years behind thanks and how does this start to become real for you oh it's already real um and i think really to echo magnus and to talk about it in terms of not just technology but people and attitudes we need to be ahead of the game rather than following and that means we need to understand what it means to show up for each other as allies someone today this morning said beautifully at a panel um allies of the and we can be each other's allies we can show up at each other stock pages and user pages and rfcs to talk about what it means to bring knowledge online in a truly global way but we have to figure out how to do that in a way that centers the leadership and um the histories of marginalized people and remember when i say marginalized that is the majority of the world i come from india where one of my ally roles is to be an ally to dalit bahujans who are 300 million people who have been oppressed through the caste apartheid system and for them bringing their knowledge online is not just an act of courage it is an act of deep epistemic injustice that they are writing and for me to be an ally in that is to remember that no one is free and no knowledge is free till all of us are free and all knowledge is free anything to say kathryn i saw you and i do one do you want to add some things we were allowed to comment yeah no censorship um i mean i i i deeply appreciate the perspectives that you've all brought here and you did see me nodding because i i loved evan the comment you made that so many of our wick comedians have a sense of the vision of the future but may not know exactly what the strategic way to express that is and one thing that someone said to me yesterday is that hopefully going forward if a strategic direction is to make more knowledge available to the world in a more structured way to magnus's point so that it can be reused in different manners and queried and searched and organized and redistributed and shared and curated in different ways it actually makes every edit more meaningful it makes every edit more valuable because it means that more people will see it it means that more people will be able to interact with that knowledge and so i think that there's been this tension that i've heard around we want to move into a place where we're taking on a greater role we have this ambition for our projects is how they might truly make not just the impact on the world that they already have but an impact on the world that honest to you just described but also this little bit of this fear of does that mean we have to leave everything behind everything that got us here and i think to magnus's point we should push ourselves we should think about how we move forward we should be okay with failing a little bit um maybe even failing a little bit more than a little bit just not failing a lot um and in doing so we can have the space to both move forward but also celebrate what has gotten us here because every edit every contribution can be more valuable when contributions reflect more people more ways of contributing and more ways of sharing absolutely and christoph something to say quick yeah um and so actually i agree it is already real especially to me um because as i've said since i've joined the wikimedia movement i've had this discussion had this endless discussion about what we would dream of what the wikimedia movement could do and could be for the world and that has been 12 years um that's a long time and the fact is that today with that draft strategic direction it it is the first time that i'm totally comfortable having that discussion at any single point in time with any single person in the room because there is a shared thing that is structured that is existing that is written and that um is a base for the discussion to happen and i'm pretty sure that we could debate and argue about what is that in that document until very late tonight and i'm pretty sure we will uh but we will be talking about the same thing all of us all together so the discussion is happening uh the change is happening because the second you're starting to discuss about that you are starting to consider it a possibility you're starting to consider that yep perhaps we need to think about all the things people that we are not thinking about um and so it's already real and the the last thing i'd say is and i'm sorry i'm sharing that and um but this is something that is uh meaning a lot to me personally but um it also means that we are starting to have another conversation is what do we as this generation of Wikimedians you call them second generation what do we want our legacy to be and when you ask the question about what do i want my legacy to be as a person is to whom who is going to benefit from my legacy and the fact is it is not the person we are providing content and knowledge to if we think down the line in 2030 who is going to who should be and who will be benefiting from the wiki media products and content and communities it is not people from the us and europe it is the rest of the world and that is also that thing that is important that document that's what is real is that we start having those discussions thinking a lot about what it is now and you said it's in the app but also who is going to be there tomorrow and who is going to benefit from that tomorrow and how do we make sure that we're going to be prepared for them and provide them with the right thing so i don't know okay thanks so much mervad magnus anasuya katery kristoff for joining this panel and for everyone we encourage you to go to the multiple strategy sessions over the weekend and also stop by the strategy space to wrestle these questions thanks so much and all right before you go everyone i'm going to tell you about some parties some parties they're going to take some photos i'm going to tell you about parties there is a bar on the third floor go check out the posters and have your 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