All right, so I hope everyone can see me well and I hope everyone can hear me well. A small thumbs up in the chat would be nice if you can hear me well because this is also the first time that I'm using this. Perfect. Okay. Right. So, well, yeah, then let's get this started, I guess. So, first of all, it's a huge honor to be here. I really want to thank everyone. This is the first keynote I'm ever giving in my life so far. I'm very excited. I hope it doesn't show too much. Yeah, so, first of all, who am I in the first place? You already know my name. It's Gina Hoiske. I'm a 37-year-old full-time nerd, so to speak, software engineer by trade and by heart. Make a hobby baker and I have to add that the hobby baker thing is not a thing that started with the pandemic, but it's something that I actually did before as well. And I'm also the creator and maintainer of Octoprint and I would now, before I continue to talk about that one, I would like to know who of you has heard or used Octoprint, has heard or used about Octoprint so far. So, I'm going to give this some quick time, but yeah, it looks like the majority has not heard or used it so far, heard about or used it so far. English in the morning is tricky. Okay, so, yeah, well, then let's maybe explain first what Octoprint is in the first place so that you know from what direction I'm talking here today. Octoprint is a web interface for consumer 3D printers. Those things that these days you actually can buy in the hardware stores. It's an open source project licensed under the AGPL V3. Currently it has something around 100,000 confirmed users worldwide. I don't know an actual number because the usage tracking that I do is obviously opt in due to privacy reasons. So I don't know about you if you're using it or not unless you tell me about it. It's written in Python for the back end and HTML and CSS and JavaScript for the front end and you can find all about it on octoprint.org. And I wrote this thing out of an own personal itch to scratch because back in 2012 I got myself my first own 3D printer and found myself in a situation that it was now taking up space in my office introducing fumes and noises and all that and that was not that great to sit next to while hacking on stuff. So I wanted a way to control it remotely and this is when I sat down over my Christmas break and started working on octoprint. We are now looking at almost eight years of history of this project and the popularity was actually big enough that back in 2014. So six years ago already I was able to go full-time with octoprint. Back then I got hired by a company, a 3D printer company who employed me to work full time on moving octoprint forward. Then in April 2016 I had to switch to crowdfunding because they ran out of money and yeah so it has been a wild ride so to speak and it has been quite the adventure over the course of all these eight years. You see there have been a lot of releases which are these little green markers there. There has been a lot of improvement around the infrastructure and all that and yeah so it has been really an exciting time and I learned a lot about things in the meantime and I want to talk today a bit about the experiences that I had or rather the lessons that I took from them. So what it is like to run an open source project for eight years of your life and six of those full-time and also how it is to run an end-user-facing piece of software for so long because yeah octoprint is actually targeting your run of the mill 3D printer user and those are not necessarily developers and I will also talk about that a bit later and what that means for what what indications that has.  So let's dive right in I guess and start with the good. So obviously when you're working on your own software project this long on your own open source project for this long it is your project. What does this mean? Well it means you can shape it. It's your vision that you implement. You do not have to trust anyone else to make decisions for you. You do not have to give away control and all that and you do not have to face what I would like to call politics driven architecture which is something that I experienced within my former life as a corporate software engineer where technical and architecture decisions are made based on internal department politics sometimes and not on what is the best choice for this particular problem that we are facing here. And also very important obviously is you work on something that you you work on something that you actually use yourself and that you enjoy using yourself and I have right next to me here I have like two printers that would be up and running if I was not giving this talk right now. I also have a laser cutter back there that runs the Octoprint as well and yeah so I use my own software daily or more or less daily and this is a really really great feeling and this is something that makes working on an open source project even for that long very very enjoyable. Another thing that makes it very very enjoyable is the fact that you help people. So this is also something that I really really enjoy and that I have come to cherish as a really important part of my day-to-day life is people have problems and you help them. You help them solve their problems. You enable them to overcome their problems by providing them with a solution and sometimes they even say thank you. I get the occasional email here and there or just a tweet in the morning or something like that that just says thank you and that makes all of the bed and actually we will be talking about later so much worth it. I have gotten a lot of feedback over the years and one of the most funny ones that I ever got was a guy who messaged me and told me that I saved his marriage because he was spending so much time with his printer in his garage all the time because he had to babysit it basically and the wife and the kids were not amused and then he installed Octoprint and then he could get back into spending time with them and just sneakily keeping an eye on his print while doing that so yay that's not something you hear every day and especially not in non-open source work I think. And another thing that is very very dear to my heart and a huge advantage of working on an open source project for this long or even just working on open source in general is you learn tons of new stuff so I'm not just talking about software development itself obviously my coding skills have increased ever since I started working on Octoprint I constantly learn new libraries I constantly learn new tricks up my sleeve I learn more Python I get more proficient in this stuff but when you run a project like this you also need to learn about project management you need to learn about community management and how to manage your communities expectations how to give them a forum a platform to exchange things exchange ideas exchange solutions helped each other stuff like this you have to learn about release management so it's not just that you throw code in a guitar repository and people then pull it in and everything is fine and dandy and works but at some point you will realize at some yeah at some after some growth of your project you really need to put out stable reliable builds that you can reproduce and stuff like this so yeah that is that is all that comes with running such an open source project and talking about release management you also learn the value of release candidates when you suddenly find yourself in on a Saturday morning trying to frantically fix a buck in the stable release you pushed out on Friday and and you also learn how how bloody tricky it can be to get people to actually run release candidates which comes back to community management where you need to try to incentivize people to help you run the project because you can't do everything on your own and yeah in case of octoprint there was also a bit of brand development involved so I need a funny little logo I need some corporate identity and all that so that things get read recognizable so yeah you learn not only about software development when you run such a such a project and I have to say that I really enjoyed that if you like learning running an open source project is like a full full overdose of learning but as I already hinted at yeah it's not all fine and then you sadly there are also some bad things that you will have to face when doing this and one obvious big point probably for most of you is the work life balance situation especially if you run a project like octoprint or even something smaller as a side project next to your own full-time job it can become a bit much it can become really hard to shut off and recharge and you really need to learn to be very protective of your private time for example with octoprint you saw on the on the on the on the timeline the first two years almost I did it next to my own full-time job so after 40 hours per week of regular work I then had to I then also try to shoulder everything that I had to do with octoprint during my after hours so right after work on the weekends during vacation and not only was that something that friends and family did not find particularly funny after a while but I also noticed it so I noticed a negative impact on my health and on my motivation as well and so this is something that you need to always keep an eye out in my personal experience because no one else will and yeah you need to take breaks you need to make sure that you do not spend all your time all your waking time in front of a PC and code away on your on your pet project or on your full-time project it it will break you long term so if you can do that for a while but you should have a plan B in order to get away from this mode and another bad thing sadly is pay no one likes to talk about money but we like having it in order to be able to pay our bills and yeah asking for donations on an open source project is is still a bit tough you it always feels a bit weird so here is something for free but also please give me money don't ask me what that was what what kind of discussion that was with my tax consultant and it also usually doesn't scale so usually what you get when you ask for donations on an open source project will not be enough to pay the rent it's it's more like beer money as some people would call it and thankfully I found that yeah with octoprint I faced the situation back in 2016 that I had to go donation based and crowdfunded full-time and I realized that if you really make it transparent how much work an open source project can be and how much work you're actually putting in how much of yourself you're pouring in so to speak and if you have a somewhat stable user base then it can actually work and in my case so far it is working and it's definitely working better target targeting I feel a bit bad using this work but targeting end users rather than companies in my experience weirdly because yeah companies always have this capitalistic approach of what do I get back in return and the software that you're using gets maintained for the foreseeable future apparently doesn't seem to suffice for them as a as a reason to give you money but yeah and so in order to be able to make this a viable approach financially as well to work on an open source project from my personal experience and I do not say that this is a general advice that is applicable to everything a single project out there but it worked for octoprint and its target audience is you really should make it easy for people to give you tiny but recurring tips so do not ask for a please give me a one-time payment of 20 or 50 or 100 or something but rather make it possible for them to give you one dollar per month or something like this because if you get 2000 or 3000 people doing that it quickly it's up and in order to do that you should also offer them yeah there are various ways to do so so we have these days we have github sponsors there's patreon which is still what what octoprint primarily gets funded with there's library there is donor box there is paypal obviously for one one-time payments at least in germany or you can do one-time payments unless you have a business account for let's not dive into these details but still yeah it's a bit you should give them choice because if people do not like patreon and you only allow patreon then yeah well then you won't get this donation so yeah that has been my experience in that regard and the final bad thing solitude especially at the start of your project you will be doing it alone and in the case of octoprint funnily enough I still mostly do it alone and the thing is that people are really fast to request features but slow to contribute them so it's easy to say hey it would be great if octoprint also did this and that but actually making it do that and not only making it do that once but then keeping that functionality maintained through the years that is hard or at least it is trickier or or more work than just saying hey would be nice and yeah so the thing is from my personal experience is you should make it easy for people to help you but without having to then maintain whatever they edit so something like a plug-in system can go a long long way here all right and now while we are talking about the bad things let's go to the ugly things and yeah there are sadly some entitlement it attacks this is something that I fear a lot of you have seen in the open source space you have users that want something immediately done and who treat you a bit like your that like the personal slave or something like this people shaming you for pushing a release because it contained a bug and yes these are all things that I've actually heard people who outright insult you and I do not want to talk it won't do not want to collect examples of all of this here but yeah in the problem is people like this can really ruin your day has an open source developer and the important thing to to remember here at all times is really yes those are vocal and they can ruin your day but the silent majority who is happy with using what you put out and who is grateful for what for the work you do is there and they may be silent but they are definitely the majority and this is just something that you have to keep in mind and what you also have to keep in mind is in my opinion a lot of people would tell you well this is just yeah this is just like it is in open source and you just have to grow with the skin as a maintainer and I do not agree with this I have to say I think we should just as maintainers we should say nope this is a boundary that I'm not allowing you to cross and the other thing that you might face is licensed violations some company stealing your code and and or you're just thinking that maybe some company stole your code and yeah this is something that feels really really bad I have not had definitely happened that I have not definitely sorry my English is just confused right now I haven't definitely have that happened with Octoprint so far but I've had some cases where I suspected that someone was using my software internally in their product without actually adhering to the license and the thing is I could have tried to figure that out I could have tried to track them into a legal battle over this got myself a lawyer pay the lawyer with the limited amount of funds that I get and all that and try to publicly shame them something like this but if it's just a sneaky suspicion from my experience I'm not sure if it if it's always worth that so what I'm trying to say here is choose your battles wisely license violations suck license violations are something that are really fully against the nature of open source but on the other hand if you're a maintainer if you're a loan maintainer especially then you cannot fight all the battles out there so if you have the possibility to outsource this to something like gplviolations.org or something I don't know then maybe do that but try not to get worked up too much about this as well from my personal experience usually it's simply not worth it because your product is still the popular one and yeah so and the final ugly side of things and something that I guess all of you have also faced one time or another during your life is the risk of burnout so we've seen there is a lot of stuff that you constantly have to learn there's quite a number of things that you have to worry about payment work life balance and all of that and on top of this there are also the ugly sides of things entitled users personal attacks insults that you have to face gpl violations and stuff like this and that yeah that can really really weigh down on you so burnout for open source maintainers is a real threat and I would be lying if I said I have not faced it in the past and what I would really recommend here is if you do regular open source work or just if you work in general but especially if you do regular open source work really keep a close eye on your own mental health and your own physical health learn to spot warning signs of burning out like increased apathy or irritability in general not feeling all there or feeling like everything sucks and all that because yeah this is a this can spiral out of control quickly and you do not want that you do not want to burn out on your open source project because as we saw it is a work of passion it is something where you help people it is something where you learn so much so it would be a real pity if due to other factors you burn out on it and cannot do it anymore and for that it is really important to know that you do not own anyone anything when you work on open source you give away you work for free you're helping people for free and this is already what they are getting from you they cannot demand from you to never take vacation days or never have a weekend or something like that so you should not either and you need to take care of yourself because no one else will so what is really really important here is you need to learn to say no as an open source maintainer no to this feature no to this bug report and also no to this discussion yet again about the topic that you've talked about endlessly or just something that is currently not something that you have enough spoons to to tackle and yeah this these are the ugly sides the question of course is with all that that negativity that we just talked about would i do it again would i go all this would i do all this journey would i go on this adventure again and the answer is a is an absolutely resounding yes it is a very very wild wild right i have learned so much i have so many good memories thanks to working on octoprint and i'm still making new ones um it is yeah it is something that is very humbling but in the at the same time also something that allows you for so much personal growth and also professional growth and it is it is really rewarding as well especially when you get these tiny mails or tweets here and there that say thank you and so i would absolutely do all of this again i would probably change some things here and there because i learned a lot which i would put a good use but i would totally do it again and with that i just want to thank you for your attention i hope it was interesting if you have any questions that would not be able to cover here anymore you can reach me on twitter via futile and i will also put the slides up on octoprint.org slides later on and with that i just want to say thank you


The following is a presentation of TFNN. Trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento. Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Now Larry Pezzavento. Okay, good afternoon folks. What we're going to do now is take a look at Apple. If you remember, one of the things I was looking at in the stock market was the possibility of us making a top up in here, given the fact that we had this beautiful cycle coming in on the 13th of November and shucks. I looked down at my calendar today and the 13th of November has come and gone and the prices are going a lot higher. You can see here how the stock of Apple gapped above its price. The low of the day was actually 186.30. The 618 retracement was 186.36 and we're up a buck and a half above that. So all I was betting, I'm going to go through the whole thing so you'll be able to understand what I'm looking at because that's going to be affected on what we do tomorrow because we still have a lot of more trading to go for the rest of the week. But tomorrow will be our live trading day. We'll have a lot of fun doing that. So the first thing we're going to do right now is we're going to answer the question that someone posed to me about putting a stop in. This gentleman called me and he really wanted to be a buyer of crude oil today because we had talked about that it did look like it was going to back off a little bit and then had a pretty good run. And his problem was, he said, well, he said, I really don't understand how I can do that because I don't believe in stop. So I had a nice discussion with him. This was real early in the morning. I'm going to bring up the chart that we were looking at. This is where we were, hold on one second. And you see, there's where we were the other day. Remember we've been following this the whole way, folks. We bought here, sold there, bought here. And I tried to sell it up in here but I was too busy last night to do it. But you'll notice here that the low that we made last night, this is what this morning on the report. Now why would the report for CPI have anything to do with crude oil? Come on guys, give me a break. Anyway, well, the probably reasons that I just don't understand. There's your low, there's your high, there's your exact 3A2. And he says, well, how much of a stop? I says, well, you're looking at a contract that's worth $77,000. Figure your risk of 4%, which is $300. He said, well, okay. He said, I'll try it. That was 4 tenths of a percent. Anyway, you'll notice here that he had a buy in here at 7780. The FIB number came in at 7778, believe it or not. And anyway, that's what he was looking at. And so he did buy it there. And of course, when it ticked off, he took his profits a little too early, but he really did it. Folks, what I'm gonna show you now, I don't do this very often, but we're gonna be doing live trading tomorrow. So it's really worth it. I want you to, you can see these numbers. There's a 61% retracement. There's the 38% retracement. These numbers are used by the Wall Street and the commodity boys and the forex boys. They really are. Let me prove it to you, okay? This is what I want you to see, okay? Now remember, today was a big move in the stock market. Let me get this up here, because I did this trade and I want you to see it because I'll show you what happened. This is where we were before the report, you see. This is where we were before the report. And right there, I don't think I'll be able to do it because the range is too big. Yeah, it is. Anyway, let's get it up here one more time, Larry. Okay, here was the 382 retracement right here at 44.30. Look up at the top here and I'm gonna show you there was a high 44.30 right there. Okay, that's where we sold it. The market came down to 43, excuse me, 44.24, okay? And then it went back up to here now. Well, what I did was I was in this during this report and I put a stop in at 44.35. Now look at this move right here, folks. You see that big move? You'd think that you'd have got creamed on that stop, right? Not happening. No, let me show you why. There's two things that you have to see here because they're both coming at once and I want you to see it, hold on a second. Here is my trade sheet from last night. I'm gonna blow it up so you'll be able to see it a little bit better. But two things I want you to see here. Okay, first, you're going to see, this is silver right here. We're buying silver at 22.17. That's where we were buying silver at. You don't see the stop because it didn't get filled. 22.17, okay? Right below that is where my buy stop was. You see that buy and where it says stop? This is a limit order to buy the silver at 22.17. There's the stop on the S&P at 45.35 and a half. My order was at 45.35. I lost a half a buck on execution in a market that went from 44.35, folks, to 44, no, it went to 45.10, I believe, no, 45.15. Moved 80 handles up and yet I got filled right on the spot. Okay, now all of these, there's a total of 10 trades here all night long. And believe me, there was a lot of action going today so there's enough for everybody. Ordinarily I don't do anywhere near this many but things were rocking and rolling. Of these, there were 10 trades. There were eight winners, two losers, eight winners, one break even, and seven winners and some of the winners were pretty good. So what we wanna do now is I wanna show you, we did the S&P, you can see what happened there. Why didn't they have a reverse stop there? I keep asking myself that every day but look at this one, folks. This is really amazing. Now, we were a bully silver yesterday, okay? I sold it here at the 50% level last night. I told the folks to sell it at 46 and put an order to buy it at 22.17. 22.17 was the buy, the 61% retracement was 22.15. And we went to 22.17, the low was excuse me, 22.15 was the low, our order was at 17 and went all the way up here. Now I got out of that up into here because I mean we made, remember folks, we were buying here at 22. I got out at 22.40, that was two grand there. There's another two grand here and another three grand here. So this has been a bonker day for the old silver market today and we were lucky enough to get on to part of that. The reason why I'm telling you all this, folks, is because these numbers have hit spot on on every single trade that I did. I mean, I'm just gonna go through a couple others, okay? Because we were involved in these. I mean, these are not ones that we're just making up. This is hopefully what we're gonna have tomorrow is this type of action. Look at this one here, folks. This is the soybean oil. We've been in this for several days. There was our 61% retracement, if you remember. We said buy it right here at 50. The low was 49.84. The price objective was 53.37. I got out of it right here before the report came in because that completed this 78% level. So I sold it just a little above that. When it got to here at 53.37, I had an order in there to sell it at 53.37. The high on the darn thing was only 53.57. And we've come down about 80 handles from that level. So I'm just showing you these because they hit these numbers so close that it's really, you have to put a stop in or you're just absolutely banging your head against the wall and you're never gonna make any money. All of my success, folks, that I do this for is because it only works part of the time. It's the part of the time that it doesn't work that keeps me in the game where I get stopped out and move on to the next one. 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It was all sent to us by usually special delivery on Saturday morning, and that's what we tried to do. We'd handposted them every day at the end of the day, and later on in life, around 1978, a man named Mr. Tim Slater of Computrack came out with Computrack, and by golly, this is why you've got these charts in front of us. He was the forerunner of this. By 1983, five years later, there were a lot of companies starting to bring it out. The data was coming in. The Chicago Mercantile realized, and boarded trade, and a knife, and all the others realized that we could sell this stuff, this data, and people are gonna buy it. So they're charging us every month for this data before we never had it, because it wasn't important. But Tim Slater is still alive, folks. He lives down in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he was born. He lives in his grandfather's house, which is 150 or 60 years old, I believe. It's an antebellum home. It is a flat-out museum. I've known Tim for a long time. I met him through, that's where I first met Mark Douglas in 1983. After I had left Drexel, and I was starting to work on these computers, that's why I went to the floor, was to understand how to do this. That I'd be able to do this at home, and I wanted to see if the orders were fair and everything, and they sure are. Here was my mistake. I thought this 618 was going to hold today, okay?  We came down just 18 handles. Harmonic numbers 15, came down 18 handles, and this is when the report came out. I had my stop in there. I sold it at 35, and I was 35, it went down to 28, and believe me, I had my stop in before the thing happened, and I didn't know where I was going to get filled, but I got filled, as you saw in that trade, 44, 35 right at a half, lost a half a point, virtually nothing. Okay, the reason why this is important is because look where we are now, now we're at the 78% level. All I know is what goes up sometimes comes down, so here's what I want to do. Someone asked me how I use the Ensign program for cycles. All right, first thing I'm going to do is get rid of everything, okay? I met Ensign in 85. They wanted to put up program for trading and stuff. They saw this coming, and so they came down to visit me in Pismo Beach and traded me for one day that ended up being about a week, and I was just one of those days, almost like the day where I couldn't do anything wrong, and they said, oh my goodness. So they stayed with me for the whole week and did a whole bunch of work, and then they said they were going to build this program, and they were interested in cycle stuff, though they built a simple cycle tool where if you go from low to low and high, you see you got that little cycle tool that's in here. See it goes from low, high, high, that's all it is. It just shows the 14 day cycle. Okay, but they did it a little bit differently. They made this so that if you mark this, and just went to it like this, you could go in and put the moon phases in. So you put the moon phases in, and there's your moon phases that I look at, nothing more than 14 days. So I get it out of the way. See how simple it is? You just move it out of the way, and then you can bring this up and you can start to see the thing. Now look where we are now, folks. Remember, I thought this was it right here. See, I thought yesterday was it. What if this puppy's a day off? And today's the high. Hello, operator. We gotta pay attention to that puppy today and tonight, because how close are we to the 786 of this number? Hey, I'm just looking for a trading opportunity. It missed it by four points. We're trading at 45 or nine. I'm gonna put my little beeper right here because I'm gonna sell that son of a gun if it gets there, and I'm only gonna risk about eight or nine points. That's all I'm gonna do. I risk five here, I'll risk 89 here. That's all I'm gonna do. That's how this little thing works. You can do it by yourself or you can count. Just get a calendar and see when the days come up and count 14 days down to the next one. There's your new moon right here. There's your full moon right here on the, that's the eclipse on the 27th and boom the way up. Now you wanna hear something really sad and this is a God-awful truth. I hate to say this. It's really embarrassing. I never bought this one time the whole way up. Not once. I never got a chance because I look for ABCDs. There weren't any. I didn't even have any 3A2s. Went against everything I do, so I can't buy it. Now we're up here. So, but you know, that's, I did okay. I'm not complaining, but I missed it. I mean, the buy was on that day right here. The next day, it opened higher, never looked back. Never gave you a chance to buy it. So you had to do it then. Almost like the gold was folks. Remember the gold, everybody hated the gold when it was down here at, how low did we, where is that gold at? Right here it is, here's gold right now. Remember we were looking at this darn thing down here at 44, there was our number. We got as low as 36, 44 was the buy. Now we're at, we hit 74 today and nobody wants it. So, look at the gold, even into the report. This thing backed off, it backed $15. Act 12, from the high to low is $15 break. And then it goes from 39 up to 75, straight up. Okay, and you can see the little action right in here. So what we're gonna try to do tomorrow is line up some nice trades in today for the five hours that are gonna be working together and we'll have a lot of fun learning to do some of these things. But that's the, that's what we're looking at here. And these are just, this particular program here is the Pescimento patterns. It measures the exact ratio from this low to this high. In other words, you'd like to see at 1.618. Well, Ensign built it in so that it's right to two decimal places, okay? I paid somebody, I met them in, I met them in what, 85? In 2000, I think I paid somebody a lot of money. At least mid-five figures, I think it was 60 grand. Anyway, to build me something like this so that I could see these swings automatically like the Wave Trader, like, you know, that Bryce Gilmore, because Bryce got all that stuff to be able to see that. See, so here's what we're looking at now is we look at gold. We look at this, you see, we made a 50% retracement of a high right back here. Look, there was your, there's your last 382.36. Now it's your 50% retracement. Now what you have to watch for in the gold, if you're smart, and I think most of you guys are, you wanna watch for this little puppy right here. 1960, folks. 1960, that's what you wanna be watching. That's the one you wanna be watching. That's when Tommy John signed his contract with the Cleveland Indians. Anyway, let's take a look at that. You'll see here, 1960 is where you wanna be looking to be a buyer. Not only that, but that's gonna be down. 17 handles from the high, the harmonic numbers, 17. Pay attention to this puppy, boys and girls. It could be the trade for tomorrow without any trouble. If you're willing to believe on the 382s, you're certainly gonna be able to do that. So we're gonna pay close attention to that here as we go through this. I hope that explains how the Ensign program works. They've got a video on how to do that. I have no affiliation with Ensign folks. I get no commission. Even if I did, I wouldn't take it. But they do have a good charting package and it's got all the little bells and whistles that I use. And they built all of them. The ABCD pattern, the Pescimento patterns, you know, secret moving average ones that I use. Like when I hit this, I can see my secret moving average one, folks. I hit that button by accident. 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Don't forget, you can listen to TFNN live on your mobile device 24 hours per day. Go to TFNN.com and hit watch Tiger TV. That's TFNN.com and hit watch Tiger TV. Okay folks, so this is the soybean meal. Remember we were long, the soybean oil and what we wanted to do was to short the soybean meal, so your long oil short meal, that's part of the spread, the crushed bread. All I'm doing is A, B equal CDs folks.  Five days, it stayed there. That tells you how important that low was. And there was a 382 today. It also, if you look at it real closely, you can see that you had a nice A, B, CD pattern right here. So that's it and we had a nice run. So tomorrow we're gonna be watching to see what this next one's going to be. Stay tuned, it'll be the mystery trade possibly for tomorrow. But we did those trades. You can see there's the meal right down here at 1955. I bought it at 5670, I believe, because I shaded it by a buck and a half because it was really active. Think, let's see if I think I can get that up here and show that just to show you where it is here. There's the meal out here. MNZ, in my CZ, 65, where are you, meal? Son of a gun, I don't see you right here. Here it is right here. There's the meal, 5670. That's where I bought it. And I sold it out right there. See where it says sale? I made nine, $10 on that. And so 1100, yeah, because I bought it back again later. These were the oil trades that I did. So I just put these in because I want to show you that I'm actually doing these so that you'll be able to try to hang on and do what I do. I've had a request to talk about, this is from a dude that used to be out there. His name was Sam Bennett or he was an Ohio farmer. This has been around for a thousand years. Well, maybe a little less. But basically what he did was he had these different cycles. You can see here, they run 17 to 18 days through here. This one here is 20. This one here is 16. But he was saying that the market were high and lows during these times, you see? So if you go back and look, starting in 1931, the hot 1931, the low didn't occur. The low didn't occur until 1932 in July. See, this is off by quite a bit. There's your 1981 low, which is pretty good. There's your, that's 1951. Here's the crash low. Look, there's no indication of the crash low. Here's the high, but there's no indication of a crash low in here. That's why I had a lot of trouble with the Sam Bennett stuff. I mean, some people can use it, but I can't. Folks, I'm a nickel dimer, part timer. I'll tell you, I look at the 14 day cycles and I let Shane Smolian, Norm Winsky, Bill Meridian, all these other dudes look at this stuff on the other thing.  It's Mr. Zee from Philly. John, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I love all your little witticisms. What did you say? Keeps me alive. Nickel dimer, part timer, is that what you said? That's me, that's me. Nickel dimer, part timer. I love it, I love it. Larry, I wanted to ask you a very specific question on the T-Bond Futures right here, right now, asking if you might be able to pull up, say a two or four hour chart going back, maybe eight, nine trading days. You got it, brother. I see a pattern that you've used many times before. What I'm seeing is it looks to me like it's a candidate for a three drive to a top pattern completed just a couple of hours ago. And I wanted to ask if you can look at that. And if that's what your read is, is that a trade setup that you generally take by shorting it? Oh, if you can't do this one, you can't do any of them. Johnny in the little room here, we're a little trading room here at Tucson. It's got his placard up and he says, give Mr. Z and A. And I'll tell you, John, let's just look at this together here. We'll get rid of all this other stuff. Because if I were doing this right now, I'd be in this trade with you because there is drive one. There is drive two. There is drive three. And that is what we call symmetry. Take a look at this. There's your drive one right here. There's your low. There's your low. There it is right there. Look at the symmetry. Look at this beautiful line going across here. This one is 1.27 of that move. This one is almost 1.27 of that move. So that's right here. Your risk is above here. If it's above 116, I'd say, you know, move on to the next one, but that's where I would be looking. I'd be really looking to be a seller up in that point. I just looked at it, John. So I was very, very friendly to bonds today because if you looked at this from what we talked about yesterday, look at this. We've been here for one, two, three, four, five, six days.  It only makes a three, eight, two retracement right here. Are you kidding me? There was nothing bearish about this puppy. You know, so I wasn't interested in selling it until you just pointed it out, but there's drive one, there's drive two, there's drive three. But John, you gotta be careful here. You see this number right here, this 116.12. That's a full handle from where we are right now. So if we get above, we get above the high we had here at 23, try it again here at 116.12. Because at that point, you've got the other ratio that's really important. In other words, I'm gonna draw it in again so we can see it together. Thank God, Ensign made this program for me to make it easy, but there's your first low, okay? There's your high. There's the other one. See if this doesn't stop it, it's gonna go to 116 right up here to your 1.618 level, 116.10, 116.13. So put your little mark on that one because if it gets above there, I don't think it will. But of course anything can happen. It usually does. If we get it, but there's where we're gonna go. We take this out. That's where you're gonna go. Your risk here is really small. You're talking a few hundred bucks, you know? Even somebody from Wisconsin can afford that. Even people like that. Larry, I am much obliged going through this process just step by step with this clean slate. Just like you, Larry, I've been, well, friendly. I've been trading the long side exclusively since I started trying to bottom pick. I think that was Thursday and Friday, October 19th and 20th and then it bottomed and reversed up on the 23rd. So I have not been trying to take position trades. I've just been scalp trading it with multiple contracts and it turns out the P&L is working out very nicely with that. And like you coming into today, I was actually long from yesterday having bought at that 112, 12, or was it 112, 17, whatever that number was, there was that triple bottom number for yesterday. And I booked profits some before the CPI came out and then I got rid of the balance into on the pop and reaction. And just in looking at things, I'm asking myself the question, is this going to be kind of a runaway or not? And I looked at that and I said, if that's a true drive, this ain't no runaway bull trend. So I appreciate you going through your bisection of this pattern, much obliged. Well, it's my pleasure, John, all the work you do for TFNN and the trades that you give in there really spectacular. So we really appreciate it, buddy. So thanks a lot. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday, okay? Be good Larry, bye. You bet. John Cherveny folks, Tiger Dan, he knows his stuff. 877-9766-48. You might think that if you want to be successful at trading in the stock market, you're going to need a crystal ball. After all, it's impossible to predict the future, right? Like any endeavor in life, before you decide it's impossible, get some advice from the experts. You might find that it's not so impossible after all. For daily market overviews that give you direction on the key indices, selective stocks and commodities, subscribe to the opening call newsletter at TFNN.com. 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Remember, it's a bullish chart and we were only able to make guess what, folks. A 382 retracement of that move. Now, this one right here, we went from 21, we dropped 15 handles, okay? The harmonic number is 5.5. Multiply that out, that's 18 points. That's gonna take you out right about here. This spot right here should be a 382 of something back here that we did sometime during the day today. So I'm just gonna bring this up and take a look at it. We're gonna see if we can move it around a little bit to see if we have a nice little spot here. Now, here's where the explosion took care. Okay, we had the explosion right here. Then we backed off, we went from 90. We only dropped nine points right here. So that's the biggest correction that you had all during that time. So that should be the 382 of that number right there, if it's any good. So if you take this low up to the high and mark it in, I'm wrong, it goes to the 50% level. It's the 50% level. And then we came up and ate it then back. See what we're doing right now, folks.  Anyway, let's take a look here. I really think that we got a chance here on this daily just because of that we're looking again at this. We're looking at the 13th, today's the 14th. I mean, with this report, and believe me, folks, I don't believe these reports any more than I believe to the man who sold me those four shares of the Brooklyn Bridge when I got out of school there in Terre Haute, Indiana, back when I was 12 years old, being in the fifth grade for so many years, they moved me on into high school because I was a very slow learner. This is what I'm gonna be looking at here, folks, right around 45, 24. I'm gonna be watching that tonight very closely because if we don't get much above it, it's no longer, it's no longer than this one. Well, well, look at this. Look at that, there's a new moon right here. Look what it did, it took out the previous high. Now, we have a question here. Did we take out the high of the previous day? Hello, operator. This is one big puppy. The good part about it is, folks, this market except stops. So you can put the order in and if you get stopped out, no big deal. You know, pick up your toys and go do something else and that's what I'll do, but I'm gonna be watching this one. I'm not gonna let that out. I mean, I can't sell it. The high was 20, 45, 20. That's four points away from where I wanted to do it so I have to wait, but I'll be watching it closely.  You can bet your sweet little Bippy on that one and that's what I'll be looking for right here. There's mortar right there at 22 and a half. So anyway, that's what I'll be watching, okay? So it's important now. We had this 382 retracement, but the market hasn't. It's come back again. We started getting below here. That tells us that the short-term trend has turned down. That's really what it's trying to tell us. If we get below 45.07, this trend is down. The high that we made here from the high down to the low looked like it was pretty much spot on at the 618, let's take a look. That came in at 13, the high was 14. So right on the money, there's 13, there's 14. So we get below here, the short-term trend and I do mean short-term because this is a four minute one. Then you know that there's trouble in River City. So that's what we're paying attention to. We'll try to make a few bucks tomorrow and we've done pretty good. If we have anywhere near the kind of market that we had today, we're going to be just fine because these markets, they don't disappear. They're here all the time. You just got to try to find the darn things and then you're far better off than what you're looking at right here. I'm just using this as a judgment right here on the 382. This could be, this was a bigger correction. You see, we came down from a 44.87 all the way down. There's your 15 point correction right here. 87 down to 72. That's 15 points, okay? So that's your fulcrum right there. That's where your 382 would come in. I almost bet a nickel or a dime. If I had some time, I was a poet. Oh, there's your 382 right there. It's at one, two, three times. So that tells you below here, uh-oh, we did not make that number up here. So that's why this was the biggest correction. Look at this, folks. How the market repeats. Yeah, I'm giving you too much information. Who knows? Remember, we came down here. We went from 87 down to 72. That's 15 handles, okay? This one went from 90 down to 81. This was only nine handles. This one here went from 08 down to 99, okay? That was 10 handles. This one was a big one. You see that? We went from 19 all the way down and we got all the way down to here to 20. So we went, we dropped 20 handles down from the high, from 20 right here to even. So that's it. See, we're starting to roll over already, you know? That's my opinion. And of course, it's not worth very much as time of the day but we'll be paying close attention to that for sure. Okay, someone else had a question about Apple. I wanted to get this up here because Apple has been on the mind of everyone. And you'll remember here, we talked about this. We'll get the daily up because I started to show with this chart. This was the daily. This is what told me that that was the high of the market. Man, there was no way coming into the 13th that we're ever going to take this out. But that report, you know, so I was going to go high again. There's your number. That's the low of the day actually today. And we've gone higher looking at this on a smaller timeframe. You'll see there were last night, okay? And then look what happened when the market, this is pre-market of course, before the market opened. See what happened to Apple? Look, it traded all the way up, folks. It traded all the way up. And there are people selling all the way so no one was afraid of this. Shot the front door and raised the rent. Anyway, these are a couple of things that we want to watch but this is some really good trading opportunities. The one in bonds looks really good. And then the stock market, and that might be a little more iffy and there's a lot to happen before now and then but that bond chart that Mr. Z talked about, that looks really interesting right here, folks. It really does. This is a four hour chart. So this has taken four days to make this high and we didn't go above it by very much. That tells you that there's some problems here. Looking at this, I might do this trade right now. Let's see if we're there. Yeah, here's where we are.  Let's take a look at this one here. I love that. That's one of my favorite movies. Support your local sheriff. Okay, we had a pretty big move down. Okay, now what is our rule? Johnny, yes, put the placker down. 3A2 is what we'll do. Move this over here from this high down to this low right here and look at this. One, two, three, four times. That comes in at 08. We're trading where are we at? 08. So the old cowboy's gonna sell one here. Let's sell a couple. Okay, we're gonna get this up here right here. Oh, I don't know if I can get that order in in time.  There we go. 08. See if we can get it to beep one time and then we'll be okay. We'll get filled and what I'll do is I'll put my stop six points right above here. So I'm only gonna risk 200 bucks. If I'm right, if I'm right, I'm gonna make some money. If I'm wrong, I'm gonna lose 200. But boy, folks, if we get up here to this 1-16-12, 1-16-13 tomorrow or tonight, I'll be looking at that real close because that's the number 1-16-11. Just got filled with this puppy. So let's see what happens. 10-4, we'll be right back.<PHONE_NUMBER>. Tigers, have you ever wondered what it would be like to trade right alongside Larry Pesevento? We'll wonder no more. 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Go to tfnn.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. That's tfnn.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. Hey folks, I wanna take a look at Crude All Right Now. We had the 382 here yesterday, which was the 382 of the low we made here yesterday on the 13th. We know we had a beautiful A-B-C-D pattern here. My question is, why didn't this go up higher and make the A-B-C-D here? It didn't, it's given back. High was 79.80. We've given back, it looks like, about 78% of that whole move from your low to your high. There it was. It gave 78% of the move right there, came back now. Maybe this was a big telltale sign. Now, it's only 13-minute chart, but let's look at it. Sit down, Johnny, please. Anyway, there's your high right here. There's your low coming in right here. And there's your 382, it misses it by six points. Now we're coming down. What we wanna be watching now, we've made a lower low and the rule is when you make a lower low, you look for the same 382 retracement off the high because that's gonna be important from your high right here down to your low. The 382 is gonna come in right here at 78.68. So if we don't get above, and remember it's taken 45 minutes to do this one. This only took a few minutes, about half an hour. This has taken 45 minutes. So watch this just for kicks and giggles, humor me. Watching it here for potential sale here at 78.78. The other reason why did this go up here? So I would be looking at the daily chart to see if I can find a reason. Oh my goodness, look at it right here. There, we're gonna see where we are. Oh my, oh boy, if this is wrong, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna be happy if that's gonna be a point off of that, but I don't think there is. Let's just take a quick look at this thing right here. Get rid of all these things, all the boys and girls. Oh, we haven't got enough time to finish it, but it probably was a spot on 382 right up here. But I went above it by a little bit. 75.11 versus 75.80. So it did go above 11 right here. So we're gonna do this all day tomorrow for five hours, folks, and try to make some money. We've done the other five, we've done well. I think we'll do okay tomorrow. Wish you could carry them over from today, folks, but unfortunately, they don't play the game like that. We're starting from scratch tomorrow and to see if we can make a couple of bucks. I hope you can join me, live every day in an attitude of gratitude and may God bless and do something nice for your neighbors, folks, because a lot of people have lots of troubles. We'll see you tomorrow at nine o'clock sharp for five hours.


All right, Gregory is asking about sharing from Facebook business page over to one's profile because we tend to get more comments on our profile makes a lot of sense. But of course, ideally we would have those thoughtful comments attached to our business page posts, so that when we run an ad for that post. New people who don't know us yet we'll see that post along with those thoughtful comments because they're not going to go over to our profile because they don't know where profiles. So let me show you on screen how to do that. All right, so first of all, I'm going to my business page. This is my business page and I'm just going to pretend I'm sharing, you know, one of my recent posts I'm going to go to a post here. Okay, so this one for example, what is authentic mark so let's say I wanted to share this one to my profile and get people to do that so what I need to do first is to get the link to the post and we do that by getting by clicking on the time stamp of the post and now I have the link that goes directly to this post. I take the link. And then I go over to my Facebook personal profile where my friends are, and then I put it where what's on your mind and I'll say, Hey, everyone. I just wrote something that I felt was important, and would be so grateful. If you have any comments on this. Okay, for example, I did that, and then I would go and paste in the link. Now when I paste in the link. Facebook automatically puts in this whole thing. Right. Now what I can do is click on the X to get rid of the preview. And if I do that, then all they see is this link. So they have to click on the link to even read it at all. You see what I mean, if I click on post right now. Now I'm actually not going to do that. Um, because I don't want this to be an actual post but let me let me just I'm going to change the privacy to only me. How's that only me. So that I'm only I'm seeing this. Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and do this and then show you what this looks like. Okay, so if I had posted this to my friends, they would literally see this in the news feed. Does that make sense. Very great. Yeah, that makes good sense. If they have to click on this because otherwise it can't read it. So they click on this, and then, you know, and in fact, yeah, that's then they have then they they will have to engage with the actual post on the business page. Very simple, very smart. I think early on, a friend of mine who is a new media marketing ninja of sorts, a buddy of mine. He encouraged me to always go and and click on the thing that while on my business page to shift over and then share in groups and on personal from my personal right click on this thing right to share as as your personal profile right right I just explained resolves the question clearly. I'm curious because I've never fully understood I thought the other way was the only way to do it. What's the, what's the rationale just for my understanding. Oh, why the other thing would have been suggested. It's just the way I know how to do it. It's just the way that's easier for me because I know if I click on the timestamp it gives me the exact post. I guess it's just my workflow, but you can you can certainly do it do it this other way you have to enter on your business page you have to click on the little bug on the top right or when I say bug I'm in my own picture. And then click on, you know, now you're interacting as your profile and then you, you go down here and click share and you can share to share now but I think if you do share now share to newsfeed. And, oh, here, ah, this is why there's no x, there's no x, you can't exit out. Yeah, I don't quite understand that what I was originally taught. And I don't need to. The way that you're teaching it makes infinitely more sense. Yeah, get the URL, you know, then the people have to click on the URL to get there. Yeah, man, make one more addition that it that occurs to me that could complement what you're talking about. The one thing that I would add is, it seems to me, and I welcome obviously you're the expert on with a little message at the top. My subject matter, for example, on the one that I just posted had to do with internal family systems. Okay. And I knew there are certain people that would be that I knew certain friends of mine would be would be interested. Yeah, no, I would be more thoughtful about this if I were posting something about include yeah no no absolutely I would say those of you interested in this or yeah no that's a very good point. Yes, yes. Thank you so much. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay, great.