All right. I have the top of the hour. So let's begin Let me welcome everybody. Welcome to the Future Transform. I'm delighted to see so many of you here today I'm really looking forward to our conversation. My name is Brian Alexander. I'm the forums creator on the organizer I'm the chief cat herder, and I'm your guide to the next hour of conversation This is the biggest assemblage of people that we've had on the Future Transform so far There are six wonderful people who are all involved with the M-Tech MOOC project and that has been a Fascinating online class helping people think more effectively and learn more about emerging technology for teaching and learning So that includes Robin Sullivan, Sherry Van Patten, Jessica Krueger, Gina Sipley, Rachel Regalino, and Jennifer Herman They've also done research on this and published a book published at Scholarly chapter in a recent book about it So I'm gonna bring them all up one by one so they can say hello to them and then we could start our conversation Go to begin with where you bring up Robin Sullivan who is the main leader of this group and she'll be the one to say hello Hello, Robin. Hi, Brian. Thank you for having us here. Oh, it's great to see you. Where are you today? I'm here from Buffalo, New York This is sunny day. Well, and nobody appreciates sound like people from upper the upper north-east Mm-hmm. Oh glad to hear it Well, listen, we I'm so glad you could make it and I'm so excited to learn more about M-Tech MOOC I was wondering if you could introduce yourself to our audience and to do so by telling us What are you gonna be working on for the next year? What are the big ideas or the big projects that are gonna be top of line for you? Okay, sure. Um, so My name is Robin Sullivan. But if you need to find me at the University of Buffalo's directory, look me up as Roberta I am a teaching and learning strategist and instructional designer in our UB libraries and Also the project director of the M-Tech MOOC project so the thing that I think is going to keep myself and many other members of the team very busy in the next coming year is we are seeking additional partners for M-Tech and continually trying to expand the number of people that we can benefit and the The quality of how that project goes forward What's the best way people who are curious about partnering with you? What's the best way for them to find you? Probably the best way. I will put my email address in the chat That's probably the best way, but I am also on many other social media platforms Facebook's LinkedIn and Twitter is maybe the least often, but I'm there as well very good. Excellent. Excellent. Well, thank you for For saying that for sharing that and thank you for all this work But hang on for a second. I want to bring up some of your colleagues as well So they can join us and and we can learn a bit more from all of them. Let's see so We see if I can bring Sherry van Putin which for me is the most name and the best New York name. I could think of today. Hello, Sherry Hi, how are you doing today? How are you and where are you today? I am in Binghamton, New York, and it is not sunny here. So it is a typical Binghamton day indeed indeed I remember driving across upstate New York one year during the winter and it was beautifully clear I think start off in Ohio and I got 10 minutes out of Binghamton and immediately it was this wall of snow came And I got 10 minutes past Binghamton. It stopped. It was cool You have a special cloud. We tend to be we tend to be a little cloudy We tend to not get the the snow from the Finger Lakes and we tend to not get nor'easters But I think we got the most snow in New York of any city this year. That's me Enjoy May It's sort of like March right now, but It's better than February. Sherry tells what are you going to be working on for the next year? Well, I'm gonna be working with Robin on the MOOC and trying to get more funding for it and Improve it and bring it to a larger audience. I'm also doing a project where I'd like to create an online course for faculty on Inclusivity inclusivity in their classrooms. Oh, not diversity training, but actually looking at inclusivity from a higher education standpoint where we're going to have them Read maybe read articles do a little of their own Digging for articles but make it their own and put more of a higher education stamp on on inclusivity. Oh, great Would you do this through through Sunni or through? Binghamton or through some right now We're doing it through Binghamton But one of the reasons I brought it up was maybe there'd be somebody interested in it That would like to talk about it more and maybe we could do it on a much larger scale and You know make it so that any organization could could use it to fit their faculty You didn't even finish answering the question and already someone in the chat volunteered to help I had a feeling it would be something that people would be interested in Well, check out Doc Waters. That's enthusiasm right there. Okay That sounds excellent Great and welcome and I'll put my email in the chat as well So if anyone gets wants to get in touch with me regarding that we can we can chat More on your mail. Very good Well, let me bring up a third member of your esteemed crew. Let me bring up a professor Jessica Krueger Let's see if we can add her to the stage as well Hello Good to see you great to see you too happy to be here along with my fantastic colleagues Well, I was gonna say your femme tech move colleagues. Where where are you coming from today? Sunny Buffalo, New York So happy to have that sunshine as Robin mentioned Good to see you Jessica. What are you gonna be working on for the next year? So I am so happy to be part of the m-tech MOOC team But I recently got a promotion in my job And I am the director of the innovation and excellence in the School of Public Health and Health Professions Within the community. So I work with five different departments and creating some strategic plans around moving forward some innovative teaching practices and technology and so I love getting able being able to Work on a variety of topics especially around Ways to create inclusive classrooms But my focus is very much in caring and how can we create a caring environment and the return on investment for caring for our students So that's where my focus will be Terrific congratulations on your new role Expect your students faculty and staff will benefit really by it Well, we have three more people, but I want to make sure that we can That's a New York sound right there I want to make sure that we get a chance to meet with you three first and then we'll start switching out and bring it more More folks one. Let me just do one intro to your question My understanding of m-tech MOOC is that it is a MOOC that you all have helped create That many people have participated in That the SUNY system helps support and that's all about students learning about Emerging technology and how it can impact each year in there. That's my Kindergarten level understanding. What am I missing? What should we all know about besides that? I? think a couple critical pieces is that it's equally Targeted to the needs of faculty so that they can become adapt at using emerging technologies to engage their students in learning and It's also an extremely broad group that anybody in the world Who has an interest to improve their digital literacy and their lifelong learning habits? And their knowledge about how to use technology tools in their everyday life It's also well suited for them, so it's pretty broadly focused I think the other piece that makes m-tech unique is that it It has two parts one is Coursera based MOOC that is a structured course But we try to break the Coursera Stereotype and it is a connectivist and a constructivist based MOOC The other thing is that there's a wiki that is crowdsourced that supports the learning Assignments and activities that is Everybody I encourage you please to visit the wiki and add any of the tools or resources or tutorials that we don't have in there That should be there Just a quick note about that if you look on the bottom left of your screen, you'll see two yellow or tan colored blobs And one of them is for m-tech MOOC if you click that they'll take you straight to the wiki The second one will take you to the book that a bunch of these women have co-authored and written a chapter into About assessment in this MOOC as well, so you can just click those if you'd like to learn more Thank you Robin. It sounds a bit like the DS 106 Digital storytelling and that it's more constructivist and also for all kinds of people not just current students Yeah, there's a number of similarities Very good Friends if you're new to the future transform my job here is not to be the chief interrogator My job instead is to be the emcee. I'm here for your questions and your comments So this is the great time to put those up In fact, I have a cat who will assist me at all points if you need assistance We have a quick question from a long time participant that's employed up in the correct And he asks this question about some of your purposes Continuous funding for MOOC sounds like it's still a problem. How can we make them sustainable while remaining affordable for the learners? That's the darn good question of the day And I think one that we are continually trying to Come up with ideas on how to address that And that's I think a reason why I mentioned in the very beginning that we are looking for partnerships To figure out ways that we can keep it sustained We have a survey that we are actually asking some of the other MOOC provider some of the other Institutions that provide teaching based MOOCs. What are their strategies? So we might be able to learn from them as well But we do want to provide this training for the learners As little cost as possible and it is our course is also very unique in that you could take the entire thing for free We don't lock you out of the assignments. You can complete the course If you are not part of one of the Coursera or the campus agreements Then there is a small fee if you want to have badge and certificate at the end But otherwise it's free and we want to keep it that way and we've seen the benefits People from across the globe who have enrolled and participated and that is what makes all worthwhile. I think That's a good answer just one quick question is how is it supported now is this subvented by the system or a lot of muscles and Volunteer effort and good will and good people That are we are looking for more grant funding hoping to hear back this month on another small grant and We're looking to partner for Writing so much bigger grants that will bring us more into the into the sustainable future Very good. Good answer and that's you as always a good question If you're new to the forum, that's a perfect example of the text question And now let me give you example of the video question. Can we bring up Elliott Jordan developer and Let's see This is the largest number of people we've had in a shooting fade. Oh, by the way, this is Hello, how are you? Nice to see you good to see you all What can I tell you? What's your question or what's your comment for the team? Actually, I have a game development for learning class in process right now in progress and just Would love to know your thoughts on that if you're gonna touch on that at all and That would be basically my primary question if if there are any thoughts out there on that and just gamified learning as a trend and Whatever you can bring to that point Go ahead ladies. I Think there's I think there was just an email that was put out about some of this stuff from our host today which is great and You know, I think you'll find a lot of resources with on the end technique that you could utilize within your class So I think the best part about this is really not only the process of going through the mood But always having that week to refer to I Love this tool because whatever I'm thinking about creating or changing some assessments I always check the week to find out some new tools and those tools can be used in a variety of different ways I bet we can all name off our top five tools that we use on in every course But I bet you've got not go past that and so I encourage people to who are teaching or thinking of new strategies to slice up their forces To check out that wiki and learn something new. I try to learn a new tool every month I might not use that tool for years But at least I can refer other faculty to it when they come up with an idea or an innovative course like yours to begin to try some of these and use them in creative ways Great answer Jessica. Well Robin Sherry. Would you like to add more? Um, yeah, I just want to you know, let you know Elliot that the wiki is something that everybody is welcome to contribute to and So the tools and the resources that are on the wiki right now I think we have about 500 different tools and resources For one you can narrow those resources down just by the ones that attach to the gamification topic There's a filter on the on the wiki to do that and if the game that you end up developing has any portion of it That is a freely available resource Please go to the wiki hit the contribute button and add your Re-add your game to the wiki for others Would love to see it there. Great. Thank you I have a quick question about them about the wiki which is does it persist? From iteration to iteration event technique, or do you restart it each time you offer the class? No, the wiki stays there and we do go in and we try to Update it periodically, but it can be a little unwieldy because it's sort of large if you have something to add to the wiki you can go ahead and put it in there and we do moderate it so like if You went in and you knew there was a big change about a particular tool and you went in and updated it We do look at it first before we post it And it's not just you know the three of us. There's a group of people that will do it, but it's usually just Robin Well, I always love the the term wiki gardeners Very fun of that. Thank you. Thank you and Elliot. That's a great question if you have Anything you want to share about your your game design class in progress throw it in the chat or sent to me I'd be glad to ask for a member Thank you very much. I will do that Okay, okay So again, if you're if you're new to the forum, that's an example of a video question So all you have to do is just press the raise hand button and you can join us up on stage as you can see we are all Pretty friendly. I think pretty friendly so far And we have more questions coming in. So this is one from Todd Rossell and Todd asks I work for really innovative and tech Use institution that you pen and you to noxial may law schools and writing programs. Well academia is so overwhelmed How do we get introduced? He's a director at power notes. That's the name of the I'll put that question up on the stage again so people can see everything What do you think how can how can people get introduced if they're the start of Meaning how can you get introduced to each other? um, since we're in such a virtual Setting is that what you're asking? I think he's asking is how he can get the word out about His products to all of higher education Get the word out to others about what? Uh, I think that it's uh, that it's a good tool. He thinks oh If you'd like to add more to the question, Todd, please please feel free to Or just raise your hand and you can join us and ask me so I think um Yes, um, peter. Thank you. I see in the chat. Um, peter shea who is the co editor of the book that we have Written the chapter forehead had given the perfect answer. So social media Is one way that we can all share information about some of these great resources that are available for education peter runs a fabulous facebook group for instructional designers anybody that has an interest in Instructional needs. I would recommend looking at um for that facebook group and joining it a lot of really great Stuff comes through there constantly including um tool, you know, I I'm constantly in mining that and when there's good things that are shared I will often be a contributor to the MOOC as well and just take them from The facebook group and share into the wiki So that's one way The reach of the m-tech project is Enhanced greatly through the Coursera platform so, um Suni is one of the institutional partners with Coursera and um, I'm kind of amazed at the reach that they are able to get our course um Has more than 25,000 people that have enrolled And that's many many more students than any of us would be able to teach in our last time Can you just repeat the number again so everyone can hear that um more than 25,000 enrollments in three years So if if the question I was going to ask in such kind of semi-sercastic questions if MOOCs are dead How did you manage to teach 25,000 students? MOOCs are not dead I think the term is um, maybe not as favored as it used to be in one of the earlier years MOOC was the word of the year um, but I see a lot of um lot of really relevant MOOCs that are out there and especially I think even with the The pandemic it has given them more life People are learning more and digging into improving themselves with some of the extra time that they have on their hands And particularly to that point, you know, I think there are so many new courses being put out that integrate into your own course And even pull some content in or learn something that you maybe might not be an expert in There are many key counts that are being put out by organizations I myself love looking at all the new offerings every day It seems like I'm getting information from Coursera about new MOOCs that are out there Of course, there's other platforms But it's a great way to even help your students if you're in a faculty position continue to learn after the semester And so it's a it's a nice way for some of that continuity of education to occur Which we all hope occurs during the summer months, but maybe desert And and Jessica's being a little modest She didn't give a plug to the new MOOC that she has just launched Which is a MOOC that is shared among a number of the SUNY research centers And Jessica's focus is on public health. Thank you for sharing the the link in the chat Jessica for that I'm looking forward to she we're enrolling and I've already enrolled. I'm looking forward to getting more time to participate A MOOC about communication and leadership in public health. This sounds mandatory right now Thank you for Jessica doing that We had a couple of really quick questions that came up in that I wanted to share Tara asks, how do we access the wiki? Tara? Good question Bottom of the screen bottom left. There are two tan or yellow colored Boxes the top one is called m-tech luke and if you press that up will be the wiki there And then and then mike eisenberg who's an emeritus dean asks a very serious question Out of that 25,000 students have taken them. How many have completed? That's a good question. Also, we are getting close to a thousand So although there's a big gap in the number who have enrolled versus the number who have completed That's kind of a common thing with MOOCs and as long as the learners are coming to the MOOC and seeking the The information that they want. That's great. We don't want to gauge the quality of the MOOC on its Completion rates But I think dottie. Thank you for being here one of our MOOC participants in the chat She had mentioned that you know, she still goes back to the m-tech wiki and we see that also Even though she's one of the completers We still see people coming back to the wiki afterwards. It's a resource that once you are exposed to it and how you can Find the technologies by looking up, you know, what is your learning objective? What are you trying to achieve and it will then start narrowing down for you the tools? So it's a great place Um to put uh to to find things that are useful Speaking of finding things I'd like to find some more people and I'd like to bring up a couple more of the guests. So Uh, sherry and jessica, let me just kind of knock you off the stage for a second Imagine a big, you know vaudeville hook is knocking you off But they're still there so we can bring them up as needed But I wanted to make sure that we can hear from a few others. So let me just begin by grabbing Gina sickly out in Close to my old stopping grounds and I was a kid Gina is an assistant professor Hello, Gina Hi, nice to see you all good to see you. Um, and and you're in the island right now, right? Yes. Yes, and it is sunny here today That's good. Well, you know the drill by now when I asked people to introduce themselves I say what are you going to be working on for the next year? So tell us So I'm You know, I intend to stay involved with m-tech mook and I'm interested in you know, increasing funding opportunities through various grants Uh, but personally, uh, I'm working on a book about lurker literacies And how the phenomenon of being just here for the comments can be a valuable and participatory social media Act and it's an extension of my dissertation work on lurker literacies and facebook groups in neighborhood facebook groups Very good. Very good. That sounds very important. Um, especially since so many people lurk Yeah, the interesting thing is that everybody's a lurker when you look at these long term studies more people are reading than commenting so Trying to understand why we comments when and when we don't comment what we actually do And the things that can be very helpful to our communities when we engage in something called participatory restraint when we don't comment Dispatory restraint. Yeah Well, um, so for all of you, let that be a lesson Unrestrained we want your questions, but seriously, we're also welcome for everyone who wants to soak it all up and learn from anybody's here Um, thank you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Let me add to this.  Hello everyone Uh, so I'm normally uh in new paul's new york in the lovely hudson valley, but i'm down here in dover delaware right now So for the summer Well, that's that's terrible I'm glad to see you here. I'm glad to see you. So so if you're going to be down there for the summer, what are you going to be working on? Well, that's funny. I was trying to think I I think I'm kind of one of these people that picks up all these different little projects But my my main focus this summer. There are two things. I received a sure grant. I'm working with some students On developing an online, uh, tutor training program. I'm a uh, developmental. I teach developmental english Uh, but another big thing i'm working on and it's very upper palm Working on a course for the united states air force, uh through my campus and this is asynchronous course But I think we're m tech mook kind of fits in with another branch of what I i'm focused on is faculty development.  They want these skills, but you know, it's not always easy To stay up to date with, you know, cool new Tools that are out there Well, thank you for doing that And uh, oh quick question for the three of you just to make sure, uh We have a question came on on twitter from down the pseudo who wants to know what m stands for and I said emerging Am I right or is it this? Yes, and actually, um, a lot of people might even interpret when we say m tech mook They might spell it m tech instead of em And so it's maybe a design flaw in our name people then they're looking at it in the alphabet under the m's It's em for emerging tech mook So we don't say dial them for m tech, but instead it I got Um dan also thought that uh, his guess was that it was actually m dash um, so that's uh We had to make sure that the geek uh quotient is represented uh here today Well, let me we have more questions that are coming in and more people are uh, are raising their hands But I want to make sure that we have still one other person here who is not left out of this conversation And uh, this is uh, jennifer herman. So let's bring her up And we have jennifer. Hello Hello How are you doing? Good i'm coming from wall fame messachusetts So the northeast is pretty covered from uh, you know delaware to new york to massachusetts Yeah, um, what are you gonna be working on? Um, so I bring a little bit of a different lens So my role is I direct a teaching center on my campus And something that we're really starting to talk about on the simons university campus Where I am Is thinking about what's happened over the last year with the pandemic And recognizing that a lot of people have developed some great skills Learned some new tools tried some new techniques And thinking forward as we move a lot of those classes back to in person What lessons learned can we bring forward and how can we make the best of this for our students? So a lot of my focus is on programming to help support that reflection That's fascinating to see Do you do you think uh, what are some of the uh first lessons that you've picked up from this? What are some of the new habits? Do you think that's not what they will bring to their face? Well, we actually did something similar back in january We had a reflection session that we called what went well And we just had people gather together on zoom and reflect on the positive from the previous semester And of course we planted a few folks to get the conversation started. So that was really helpful Um, and I think a few themes One is that people shared that online learning was different when the what than what they expected And so once they got into it They realized that there are ways that you can really promote engagement that you can't in an in-person class And I've heard a lot of folks express an interest in having Some sort of flipped or blended model on the other side of this. So perhaps Having students watch a video instead of do a reading before class So I'm very curious now that we're starting to move toward in person Um, what folks will say Very good. This is important work. And I may just steal that thing for another session for ourselves But you have a mark freidenberg says hi. He's a neighbor at bentley university. Oh wonderful So, uh, again, since this is a place for all of you to ask your questions And we have now all six of our um of our wonderful panelists deployed Um, so please don't be shy with your questions. Don't restrain yourselves too much And uh, we'd love to hear from you. Uh, we have a Matthew asked another question, which is a really solid one, too This has to do with data Uh, besides listed tools You also have some assessment tools or data plans for the privacy standards compliance accessibility Um, yes, um, very good question. So there are another one of the categories on the mtech site is accessibility And the mook has it's broken down into five different modules The very first module is probably the most important module And in there we talk about lifelong learning and some of the Ideas and knowledge that you need to have in order to be a successful lifelong learner Accessibility is part of that information literacy on your digital footprint That's all kind of brought up in that first module to kind of guide you through when you go through the other modules exploring more of the tools But another um that theme that you just mentioned accessibility and also the privacy Aspects that is hopefully what we'll drive our next grant project that we are hoping to get into um, we've uh, all we've um Appreciated the web 2.0 scorecard that was developed by a colleague Wendy Torres and that's a resource on our mook And we've presented on that Idea in a number of different conferences How, you know, some of the tools Help you become more accessible and how to you know, make sure that you add captions to your videos and things of that nature So it's a very important part, but we are kind of refining that checklist and building our own That also includes the security privacy and have plans over the summer to try to Work with some students to push that forward even even further Very nice. Very nice. Great question. Yeah um And uh, we also have a quick comment from the Korean sugar I believe that's fourth more who says that she's excited to hear the trend for being flipped for being considered Thinking this approach is particularly helpful for all students, especially those who might have disabilities um, and then you have um A note from a daddy one of your m tech mook veterans He says she taught virtual grade pre k3 12 since august now hybrid I'm teaching in person online at the same time Somewhat challenging when you're a different school site with different set up for each assignment And I could definitely see that We also have another questioner. We have Peggy Mackey who wants to join us on stage. Let's see if we can Uh, have her join us and we have There she is I'm delighted to be with this group of people. This was an extraordinary important chapter Uh in the book which really was designed to help People navigate this evolving landscape of emerging technologies It's really difficult to get your arms around them. So we need opportunities like this And what impresses me so much about both the mook and the wiki is that these represent what pansky brock refers to as untethered professional development opportunities Which means that we all can't be at a designated time or place for professional development But now we have the opportunity To do it in our own time But most importantly to engage with other colleagues to learn from them ask questions and learn about their particular experiences And and one of the other things that she says is the best way to learn about digital options is to do them online And that's exactly what uh, both the mook and the wiki enable us to do so my congratulations to all of them Thank you penny You bring up some some really great points. Um, I think part of the inspiration for the development of the mook Was um at the university of buffalo. There was a single instructional designer That was centralized in our teaching center Two thousands of faculty and so it was like, how do you reach these faculty that are In different parts of the city in different parts of the day? And so that was kind of part of our inspiration and There was a project that we had in place For about five years before m tech called the tools of engagement project And we learned a lot there and hopefully we tried to fix some of the things that we learned when we Went into the mook But through the tools of engagement project, we did some qualitative Research on the reflections that participants wrote about their experiences And they definitely felt that the number one thing that they learned the best from was from each other Just reading somebody's reflection. This is what I explored. Here's how I used it in my class And here's what I might do differently next time That's the best learning opportunity that people have in this kind of experience Right. So this broadens the opportunity to make these extraordinary connections with people On a continual basis and on an as needed basis and that's really Incredible that's actually what's happening in the workplace is people are having to learn online new capabilities In the moment. So we should be doing it in higher ed as well I'd also like to address I think Matthew's got another point in the chat You said that he's gotten burnt with a cool tool disappearing overnight And I think that's another lesson that we learned that we're trying to Address so we do not focus on you know, here's a tool learn exactly where to click It's like here's some tools learn the concepts behind what in general is that tool Is it a concept map? Is it a wiki? Is it a blog not here's blogger and here's you know, that's the blog platform If it goes away, I'm going to cry it's like understand the principles And when they do go away, which they do often be able to have a comfort level of being able to go out Find what you need what fills your need and then learn from that and then use that tool Because they do go away. They certainly do Well, thank you for grabbing my question and as usual Matthew asked a good question And I really appreciate that stance because I've I've been through the experience myself. I think maybe that's probably had as well Peter she adds we need more tools to generate content not tied to a specific tool and gives the example of a mp3 um now I'm going to keep you on stage just for a minute more because Because you may want to dive into this one as well This is a question from um dean mike eisenberg who asks About libraries. What role do libraries and librarians play in your situations? And i'm assuming that might mean in terms of supporting the working in mp3 Well, it seems to me when we are designing courses They their recommendations or how we integrate with them is significantly important And and it's very so we need to be connecting with them as we design the specific courses that we're Working with it's sort of traditionally been the problem with lms is that the librarians were sort of kept on the sidelines all the time And yet there's a significant component of the activities and the resources that we use So it seems to me what they could learn from this could then travel into working with faculty as they design courses I mean, they probably know some already But they may be another source For saying gee have you thought about this as a possibility for students learning a little bit more about x this simulation or this 3d tool that you could use as well That's a great answer. Thank you very um Robin and Rachel jennifer generally would you like to add to that? I think um, I'd like to add a little bit that um libraries have been a A field that are constantly evolving and they are not your traditional library that only is You know dealing with content and books. So libraries are continually expanding and especially in academic libraries partnering with faculty and helping them to develop and curate and define Um, both content and activities to engage students and even public libraries are using many opportunities to help increase both digital information and You know any type of literacy So there's all kinds of opportunities for libraries for sure Um, and I would just add of course with the uh, oh, we are uh, you know ongoing revolution Those librarians that are you know at our campus are curating open educational resources. They are key And we really need to fund them. But anyway Very good. Very good. This is a meta note if you if you're new to the forum We've we're big time fans of libraries here We've done sessions from inside libraries. We've covered a lot of the wonderful librarians and library scholars Uh, and we're also big at open resources Mike great question. Great question. Thank you. Um, now I want to uh rearrange the deck chair a little bit here and Let's say Peggy. I'll I'll give you a break this time. Um, and I wanted to bring back. I want to bring up one of the previous panelists here Who bring up? Sherry and this is a question for For you Sherry as well as for uh Robin and this question is so exciting. I'm actually going to do this in an exciting visual display It's like it's The question is a lot of mooks. They're usually designed. They're usually built on one person The one main instructor And then there's a production time the production team behind the scenes at The edx or coursera or you to me or whatever But what i'm seeing here is something very very different. Um, this seems like a like a pirate crew This is a How did you how did you make this happen? How did you get together all these wonderful people to do all this way? I um Yeah, sherry is definitely the the the right hand person to the to the team and um, she has kind of been By my side every step of the way But as you might have noticed, um, it was not a one person or a two person or a six person It's you know, we've had I believe there's probably close to a hundred people throughout the suni system that have helped Contribute to the development of the mook We've had faculty. We have um, you know just in the videos that we share through the through the mook students are represented um staff are represented and um Many people have had their hands in there in some way or another and brian I think we share a trait. Um, you often introduce yourself as the chief cat herder I think that's something that I do pretty well to I'm able to kind of bring together the people I often say that um, I describe myself as a learner and a connector of people and ideas And um, that's how I think how this came together and like we tried hard when we got people to do our videos or to Yeah, anytime somebody was working there. We tried to get different universities. So we we weren't it's not all binghamton and buffalo It's across the suni system. We thought of who do we know that's an expert in a particular area Or who has a driving passion in a particular area and we tried to get them to be our speaker For those different sections. So we tried to give people a lot of different a lot of different viewpoints I think we also need to give some credit to um, one of our early suni chancellors um, dr. Nancy simpher and um, so she had um suni has 64 different campuses across the state of new york And um, she had a term that she called system this So instead of buffalo doing something and then binghamton doing that same thing and then new paltz doing that same thing How can we work together to create a collaborative thing? And that's what we're doing here Yeah, she had a lot of promise and uh, and some good stuff came out of that I i'm i'm glad to hear you uh, uh mentioned that because that was I thought really really important. Um, and uh I have to ask how do you how do you keep it going?  We do meet through zoom. We still use the old-fashioned email. Um, we have not yet started a slack channel um, and um, I think it's just you know as different projects come up. We'll pull together different teams and Many times there's just people that come forward and say I want to get involved and we'll talk and figure out ways that they can get involved That's terrific. Um, thank you. Uh, thank you for answering that question. Um matthew plurid uh had interesting comment about Uh about the term mook and I'm gonna and he there's a cartoon that he shared I'm gonna bring this up at the in just a few minutes on the screen for everybody Um, but uh, thank you for sharing that. I think this is very for me personally very inspirational to see so much good cat herding being done And uh, if this is done in such a lowercase d democratic way um Rachel asks how many campuses are represented? I think we might have um, you know as far as participants. I think we might have hit all 64 Wow in the in the SUNY system. Yeah Wow I think I haven't done the research, but I'm guessing, you know, we've um I'm thinking that we've maybe hit all campuses in SUNY Wow, as far as the campuses that are involved There's been a around a dozen And then, you know, cut they come and go though So we might be working with one dozen at one point and then maybe it Changes where we split off and we're not working with that many But And at one point um with the tools of engagement project We had kind of more of a membership model where our campus had to kind of purchase membership um, and that you know, we had maybe about Almost more than half of the SUNY campuses in as members at one time Well, that's really good The idea about sustainability One thing that a MOOC is kind of designed to do is to offer instruction at scale to be self self-running and so although we do try to Communicate in the discussion forms to try to and through social media to try to encourage people to dig deeper when they are doing their reflections there is um You know, definitely the There is the opportunity once somebody completes the MOOC to become an mTech fellow And what that just means is that once you complete the MOOC We ask you to be a mentor in the community And once you have shown that you have provided support to at least One person in each of the modules. We then will designate you as a fellow So they there's many and I think Donny's one of our fellows and there's others that are on the call I've seen So there's a number that again when time permits they go in and they kind of try to nurture That community as i'm sure you're aware brian community just doesn't happen. It needs to be nurtured It does it does that's why I like to the gardening metaphor um I'm conscious of time and we've got about four minutes left, which is criminal But i'm going to take the moderators prerogative and ask you a question Um, which is where does this let's go in the future? Where is this go five or ten years out and you've you've mentioned looking for partners? Um, and and try to become more sustainable, which is crucial Um, do you want to say more about that or would you like to talk more about say more emerging technologies that you would like to include As curriculum or that you'd like to use as teaching technologies or any other changes um, I think I would like to talk a little bit more about How people might be able to become a partner We just have a couple minutes left. So if you do go to the mtech site go to the home menu and there is a section of How you can help and in that Page there's a number of ways that you can Contribute or ways that you can get in touch with us so that we can talk and brainstorm Ideas that maybe we haven't even thought of and how we can partner together To kind of you know, keep it going and the the idea of making it a wiki Was purposely done because of those tools could continually go away When we fall out of favor we'll remove them and new tools come out. They get added That's good to stay and resources too. I always forget the resources There's about two thirds of the items on the wiki about Our tools and then another third our oer catalogs how to you know tutorials Many different things Thank you for answering that. I I'd like to share this cartoon that That bet you brought forward to make sure I've got the right version of this There we go And he wanted us to think of mooks as a boundary object Um, that is one that Crosses over a whole bunch of different meanings And you can see here that for every letter involved there are different questions. Is it free of charge? Is it affordable doesn't have start end dates is self-paced? And then of course we have the x and c in which case the x mooks Are focused on you know, are they focused on scalability or the steam oaks more focused on communities and uh and connections I did want to Thank you for sharing that Doc orders, which uh, which link are you looking for for the wiki or for something else? Oh, doc that's in the bottom left of the screen here Let me just make sure you can all see this clearly the very bottom left of the screen You should see two yellow or tan boxes The top one there is the M-tech loop and of course before I get into this name problem is the link directly into the chat Well, uh, I have to say it's been absolutely inspirational and very practical to learn from all of you And all of these experiences How can we best keep up with the M-tech loop project as a whole? I would say enroll The best way to keep up is to go to the To the website that brian has shared and I've shared in the chat And enroll there's no cost to anybody to enroll There are many opportunities to get the free Coursera certificate and badge and you can find that out about through the You know through the M-tech website and That's probably the best way we are also we have a facebook group that We're trying to you know get that built but it's um, you know Kind of slow right now and we do share through linkedin quite a bit as well Understood understood. That's great. Well, let me thank all of you. Let me thank all six of you For coming today for sharing your experience and thoughts Please keep going. This is a this is an unusual and very fine project and we're glad you're talking with you today Thank you very much, brian for having us. We're we're very grateful for the opportunity to talk and share Pleasure, but don't go away everybody. We need to point out where we're headed in the uh, the next few weeks and The uh, I want to touch on a few different topics before we go One is again just where we're headed We have a whole bunch of topics come up for the next few months next week We're looking at federal policy changes So if you're interested in that, uh, if there's anything in particular that you would like us to look into Please let me know. Uh, we'd be happy to set up our speaker for that We're also changing a bit of how we handle conversations between sessions right now We're focusing primarily on twitter just to make sure that you use the hashtag And there you can see my handle as well as the shindig handle and you could also see much more on the blog as well Um, if you'd like to look back into the past look at some of our sessions on mooks Or uninstructional design or professional development and so on just head back to time url.com FTF archive. We have a whole bunch of sessions there to look at as well. Please subscribe. I would really appreciate that On top of that. Thank you all for the really great questions. Uh, this is a fantastic project I'm glad that we could link together with it today. Thank you all for your thoughts your comments and in the meantime, please everybody take care Be safe during this extraordinary time. We'll see you next week and we'll see you online Bye. Bye