Greetings, everyone, and welcome to Progressive Discussions. I'm your host, James P. Madonna, as seen on the web since 2007. I've been doing this. I just want to welcome everyone to our new time slot. We switched days to see how it goes. We were doing shows Saturdays, starting at 8 p.m. eastern time now. We are trying it on Thursdays at 8 p.m. eastern time for specific reasons. I had a private business meeting with my right-hand man and co-host who will be joining us later after he has his Thursday night dinner with his family. Here he is in commentary to say hello. This is the gentleman that will be co-hosting the show with me, Mr. Jason Cleveland of Seattle, Washington. How was the traffic coming home? Or did you get home? Oh, you're not free for the whole show after dinner? Okay, okay, I will. Well, I can stay on until around 7 p.m. or so my time, which is 10 p.m. your time. Okay, all right, let me bring up the first video with Jesse Ventura.  And it seems like he wants to get back into the political game. And I have a few of his recent videos. Okay, very well. Bear with me, folks. If anybody's watching, bear with me. I know I always say that. Here we go. Governor Jesse Ventura here for Die First, then Quit. P.T. Barnum made a statement many, many years ago. He said there's a sucker born every day. Well, guess what? P.T. Barnum was wrong. He was dead wrong. You know what he was wrong at? He forgot to make it plural. It ain't a sucker born every day. It's suckers, meaning more than one. And who I'm talking about today are people giving money to Donald Trump. People pouring in money to this guy as he asks for it just from threatening to be indicted. People sent him $1.3 million so he can defend himself against three or four other trials. He's got looming on the horizon. You know, it isn't out to get Trump weak. People don't go out to get people generally unless they've done something in the first place. You have to have done something to be allowed to be gotten.  Now, do we know that for sure? No, because he doesn't file tax returns, so there's no real way to know what his actual wealth is. But he brags about it. He tells us he's a billionaire. Why would he need money from you? Why would a billionaire need you working-class blue-collar people out there to send him money you could use right now to fight inflation, money you could use for health care, money you could use to put food on the table but you think it's more important to send Donald Trump your money thinking he's somehow fighting for you? I got news for you. Donald Trump only fights for himself. He doesn't fight for anybody else. And when he stands up there and gives those speeches like he does that he's all there for you, that stinks. He isn't there for anyone but Donald J. Trump. But like I said, PT Barnum was damn sure right. PT just didn't make it plural. Okay. Jesse Ventura video number one. And now we will go to the next on this week's progressive discussions. Okay. Weeks will be... I'll try this one. This one should be pretty good. Hold on. Before I go to the next number two, that conjects Jesse Ventura video, which is really good. Good morning, Masumi from outside of Tokyo, Japan. Good morning to you and happy Friday. It is now 10, 15 a.m. Friday in Japan. Friday. You should have tempura on Friday because it's called Friday. So you should have fried food. Anyway, good morning to you, Masumi, and welcome back at the ranch. Bear with me. I know. I always say that, right? I always say bear with me. Okay. This will be a real good one. The people of Minnesota won't be able to shock the world again. We won't be on the cover of Time Magazine and Newsweek for an election. When I shocked the world. Because guess what? If this rule would have been in place, I couldn't have won. I was polling eight to 9% at the primary. Because I had major party status through the independence party and my colleague Dean Barkley at 5%, I was allowed in the debates. I showed that within six to seven weeks, you could go from single digits to becoming the governor of Minnesota. Thank you, Madam Chair and members. All right. We are moving on to Senate file 1361. Senator Carlson. And now they do something like this, against democracy. I mean, I could not have been elected governor if this rule would have been in place. All I'll say is yes, if I do decide to do it, the libertarians will stick with me. So why we're here today is we're here to try to get a bill tabled. And this is a bill that wants to suppress voter choice. Greetings, Jason Cleveland from Seattle, Washington has just joined us. My co-host, how are you? Good evening, James. Can you hear me? Yeah, let me turn up the volume. It's a little loud. I have a new headset. So we're trying that out this evening. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Check your mic volume to make sure it's cranked up. But nevertheless, I can hear you. I'm going to go back to the video because he's really on fire. Just like Bernie Sanders is on fire. And also kill all the other parties. Yeah. Is that better? Yeah. Okay, good. All right. The two major legacy parties, they don't want emerging parties to be able to build momentum and get elected.  So we have a coalition of over five emerging parties in Minnesota, some of them that minor party, some of them are still just in formation. And some of them were either major or minor parties. And now they're coming back to that status. But we're all really united in the idea of that more choice of a ballot for our voters is better for our state. I want them to table this bill. They need to table it. It is Tuesday, March 14th. I'm here representing the 601,760 Minnesotans currently represented by a third party elected official at the local level. Currently, the 5% threshold is too high. The median across the U.S. is 2%, which means Minnesota is wildly discriminatory towards emerging political parties. And people shouldn't be limited to just two choices. As consumers, we should have the ability to choose between more than just Target or Walmart, Coke or Pepsi, Home Depot or Lowe's. And as voters, we deserve to be able to vote for more than just the GOP or the DFL. I'm going to address the memo submitted by DFL chair, Ken Martin. Mr. Martin stated there were 19 states with major and minor party status. His stress, Minnesota was near the bottom of the requirements for it to qualify as a major party. But what he did not tell you is the difference between major and minor party in those states is how the candidates are nominated either through a primary or through a convention. The party forgot is that minor parties in those states have ballot access. The chair seems to want us to be like Colorado and Texas. Ballot access for those states are at 1% and 2% respectively. Your terms are acceptable. The explanation was to get rid of the spoilers. And this is the wrong tool to do this. Rank choice voting is the right tool to get rid of the spoilers, not banning third parties from participating in the elections. That's what this bill does. It raises the bar and eliminates all the effects of the rank choice voting bill. So if that were to get passed and this were to get passed as well, then we would completely negate the issues of allowing third parties and more voices in government. As a Democrat and as a member of the DFL, I believe that everyone deserves a seat at the table. Furthermore, it is from these third parties that we're giving insights into alternative strategies and options. It appears that the DFL has lost its way when it resourced to such legislation as this when they feel their power threatened. This news, there is a terrible misunderstanding reflected in the letter from Ken Martin. Well, I must say that the American voter most definitely deserves more options besides the two major paid off in bed with the oligarch political parties, Democrats and Republicans, people have a right to hear and learn of third party candidates and the American voter has a right to choose whom they want to vote for. Not to only have column A and column B, you know, going from the frying pan into the furnace, a vulture with different color feathers on each wing, one wing being red and the other wing, the left wing being blue. And I guess what, it's still a vulture. I know, I know about the lesser of the two evils, but I think Americans are sick and tired of just settling for the lesser of two evils, which is still evil. Now, getting back to Mr. Jason Cleveland, it's been a long time. Hello James, it's been a long time. Thank you. Thank you for being my co-host. Of course. A blast from the past and you're here. And it made a lot of sense. I mean, they're fighting for Americans right to get to know all the candidates. Well, even if it's the Dingleberry party, if you can, if you have enough behind you to get on the ballot, Americans should get accustomed to everyone who has a chance. The two corporate war parties, the demon crafts and the republicans. Hey, Bart Robertson, greetings, sir. Great to see is right. What we need is Tommy Carroll. Now, Bart, you are in dairy country in New Jersey, is that correct? He's southwest and going towards Philly. Is that where they came up with the term the Jersey herd from New Jersey, the cows that were raised in Jersey? Well, the only cow species I have memorized is the Holstein cow. Holstein. Don't you have Angus? Well, yeah, well, you have to have a female, you have to have a cow. Otherwise they can't, they can't breed. They can't reproduce. But I enjoyed, I enjoy Angus beef all constantly.  And but I don't know about the milk production of the female Angus. I really don't. What does it say here? You are so Jason. Well, why? He looks like a Jason. Is that what you're saying? He's so. No, I think Bart said. Good evening, everyone. I said hello, Bart. Great to see you. It says you also that is like to see you also. You know, I don't understand why they don't expand the. The goat dairy farming like that. California. There's a company. There's not many around as a company. It sells goat milk called Mayenberg Mayenberg. And they use these big white French goats. That are popular for milk production. And of course goat cheese. And the good thing about goat's milk is people that are lactose intolerant. To cows, milk have no problem consuming goat's milk. I don't understand why they don't have more goat dairy farms. Like, like, I think New Jersey should start. You know, my goodness, you bring up a good point, James. I would say that, you know, you see on menus pretty frequently goat cheese. Pizza is pretty popular, right? I goat cheese is is unbelievable.  And you know, so the milk tastes better than cow's milk and it's more digestible. I mean, like I said, lactose intolerant people can consume goat. So, you know, you bring up a good point to James. Do you think I mean, let's maybe rewind back to your childhood. Tommy Carroll. There he is. There he is. I was just mentioned. But yes, I believe there are many, many hybrids out there. Yes, I believe. Well, what's interesting, maybe just staying on the aliens topic before I go to my next thing. I was thinking of is that the US government, you know, if you recall, when was it James? Two months ago, I know time flies that the that the spy balloon was kind of making its way across the country. And that was pretty big headlines, right? It is right.  And the government said, well, if we shot it down, it'd be too dangerous because the debris and all this other stuff. So I think the thing got like off the coast of South Carolina or something like that. Why did they wait so why did it let it travel so far? You know what happened first? First of all, my friend from mainly in China says you Americans are funny. You crack us up over here.  You're so afraid of a balloon. I says, well, if it's a spy balloon. She says, well, it could be weather balloon or could be a spy balloon. It's so balloon. I says, yeah, the balloon went over a very important military base in Montana and an area. I didn't want to mention it, you know, communicating with mainly China, but there are intercontinental ballistic missiles being being stored. Yes, national defense. Correct. As part of this military base and this balloon just so happened to go over that area. But the balloon because it was unmanned and uncontrolled. Effectively, the balloon was just blowing with the atmosphere and had no control whatsoever. Right. Maybe it was coincidence that it went over that. But I guess what I was going with this is Tommy aliens, right? Recently, maybe as recent as when they announced that there was the spy balloon going overhead. The, you know, if you recall, the government had shot down some other what they call unidentified flying objects and one of them was actually in Canadian airspace and the US Air Force was mobilized. I think there was another one, James, I think somewhere in Michigan. But the government is finally starting to at least confess that yes, there is or there are things out there that we don't know what they are. You know, for the longest time, if you look at what happened in Roswell, New Mexico area 51, there's almost too many coincidences now of. I don't know, strange behavior to, to at least not, not a, you know, to think that something else has to exist out there, right? Yeah. Yeah, of course. I mean, I, I, they're seeing. Now it's not just a distant. UFO in doubt they're super clear. Everybody has the high definition video capabilities with their phones. And they're they have been spotted all over the world in massive amounts. I mean, I watched a show called Paranormal Court on Camera and they showed this Russian man and believe it or not, they send their videos to this show. And he was viewing the moon, the full moon. And there were dozens of UFOs traveling in unison and like, like the hole between his camera and the moon.  They were all over the place like ants. Yes. And, and, you know, and I think I believe they've been visiting Earth for thousands of years and I believe they were involved in the construction of these ancient cities, ancient civilization cities, because mankind did not have the technology to lift a block that weighed many tons that high off the ground and stack it so perfectly where you can't even get a razor blade in between the blocks. I mean, mankind did not, it was, they were too primitive. There was no way that slave labor could accomplish it. And even engineers today say that they would have a lot of trouble duplicating that construction. So the alien civilizations, did they, were they responsible for building it? Did they use like anti-gravity equipment to levitate these blocks? I believe so, you know, I believe so. And I mean, you look at at least two examples exist. Certainly the Great Pyramids in Egypt, right? And then the Stonehenge in Scotland. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Northern England, Northern. All right, yeah, far, far Northern England, maybe Southern Scotland, Northern England. But yeah, it's, it's kind of crazy times for living in Tommy, Tommy Carroll. Yeah, I don't know. If you look at whatever happened with this Bible, it's the, the thing is the American public has such a short attention span for anything, to be honest with you. It's in the news and out of the news. People forget about it, right? There's too much stuff going on. Aside, aside from the average American being dumber than a bag of rocks, they have a very short attention span. Correct. Correct. Yeah, yeah. You know, there's, there's something, James, I'm not sure if you've heard of it, but it's called the imposter syndrome. Have you heard of that before? Are you familiar with it? Does it have to do with people putting up a facade and hiding their true personality? No, it's actually, let's say you were to do a job, any job, there's always going to be somebody better than you. I think that that's, that's a given, right? Of course. There's always going to be. Hollywood. I mean, these stars were manufactured. You think any one movie star or actor or model is the only one with talent and is kind? I'm sure there are like tens of thousands of replacements for everybody. Oh, for sure. Who's famous. Yeah. Yeah. There's always going to be someone better in every way. Yeah. But the imposter syndrome, essentially, you can let doubt creep into your mind. Like why am I doing this job, right? Like I don't feel like I'm smart enough or fit enough or whatever, take whatever adjective you want to use. Yeah. And when that starts creeping in and kind of harboring and festering inside your mental capacity, it's kind of a dangerous thing, right? So I guess the long story short of it is that, you know, you are where you are for a reason. Trust yourself, trust your judgment, trust your ability. Because I think too often too many people, they doubt themselves and that's what's really holding them back. You know, a bit about what you said, you know, if you were to take one of the. Of course, it's all subjective, but some of the greatest actors in the history of filmmaking, right? Like Robert De Niro would probably ring true to most people to say, wait, who do you think is a really good actor? Like Robert De Niro, right? Well, how did he get his big break, you know? And who's to say that there was a guy better than him that just didn't have the connections or didn't show up to the meeting on time? You know, you start to think about things like that, right? Yeah. You know, all of these intersections and if you hit the intersection at the right time, things will go great for you. But if not, then it's a different path that you take. You know, it's a bit interesting to start thinking about it that way. You know, the actors that you mentioned, Robert De Niro. Clint Eastwood or? Yeah, Clint Eastwood, the other one. Charles Bronson. Well, many of them. The Caprio. Well, I was referring to the ones that are more like character actors that have became big superstars, movie stars. You know, they have a character actor image. Like Luke Wilson. Yeah. Kind of plays the same goofy guy the whole time and piles of money. They're typecast. Correct. Without Pacino, you know, he has a certain, he's a certain, he has a certain image. He's typecast in some ways. But he does play other parts. You know, like he played Satan with, what was that? Oh, the Devil's Advocate. Right. Without Keanu Reeves, right? The Devil's Advocate. That's a fantastic movie. I enjoyed that. Yeah. I enjoyed that. The woman was the redhead. Oh, the redhead. Yes. I was thinking Charlize Theron played Keanu Reeves wife, but the redhead in that movie. Yes. With the, yeah, I don't need to say anything. It's spectacular. Okay. Before we get on, before we get ferocious with what happened with what I watched Bernie Sanders and other United States senators questioning the CEO of Starbucks. All that. Yeah. Let me just, let me just tell you one thing really quick, right? For the viewers. So Howard Schultz, CEO of Starbucks many years ago had had recently just returned as interim CEO.  And he owned at one point in time the National Basketball Association, the NBA team, the Seattle Sonics. Yeah. Super Sonics and they moved them. And there was a guy, the name will come to me, but he are Bennett, I think was his name. He's out of Oklahoma. He purchased a team. He's like, he flat out said, I'm not going to move the team like big press conference, right? Everybody. That's great. And then behind the scenes, he's building this big arena and then all of a sudden, like, boom, the Sonics moved to Oklahoma City. They become the Oklahoma City Thunder and we lose our basketball team.  So I love to see, and you're probably going to play a clip or talk about it, but I just wanted to give my two cents. People around here hate this guy.  People don't trust him.  I do have my take on where I notice. I didn't watch a great deal of it.  I was dead set against calling the Cleveland Indians, the Cleveland Guardians and, you know, and things like that of that nature. I think it's really, you know, 75 year old baseball team. All of a sudden you have a problem with it and you got to change the tinker with tradition. Same thing with the Sonics. They've been in Seattle for how many years? Since I was a kid. The 60s, James, since the 60s.  Yes, absolutely. Yes, there were no, when the Sonics were around, when they first started, they were the Sonics for a long time before the Seattle Seahawks and the Mariners became a reality. Correct. You know, and of course the newest team has the coolest name of all the Kraken, the Seattle Kraken. Yes, yes. Because I love Calamari. And yeah, so I mean, it's like traditional. It's tradition with Seattle. You don't do something like that. And does Oklahoma City have the population to support an NBA team? That's a great question. It's a rinky-dink city. It's not like, it's not a major city. So they have, this is according to Google, they have close to 700,000 residents. And what's interesting is Kansas City, which is actually in Missouri, has 500,000 and Tulsa has 400,000. So it's almost twice as big as Tulsa, Oklahoma City. So it is the biggest, I mean, the whole population of the entire state of Oklahoma is 4 million. So 700,000, you know, it's about a third, no, sorry, quarter of the population. I don't think Kansas City has an NBA team, do they? No, they have the Kansas City Royals, the baseball team, but they've been around forever. And they also have the Chiefs who won the Super Bowl this year, football team. They don't have basketball. They don't have basketball. All right. Now, anyway, you're right. Before I give you my take on the CEO of Star Fox, when he was quite a spy on the senators, and Bernie Sanders was yelling at some of the Republicans who were blatantly lying and trying to talk over him, and he got loud and tough, which I'm proud of. Now, for good luck with our, with us bringing back the No Holds Bar steel cage match format of progressive discussions. I have from my brother-in-law an authentic, hold on, let me go, let me go so. I have an authentic prehistoric megalodon tooth from a megalodon, which is the size of a school bus much larger than any great white shark. The prehistoric megalodon. I like to take this tooth and twist it in a couple of foreheads of individuals that we know. Yes, for sure. James, is that authentic? Yeah. That's got to be worth a fortune. Absolutely. Well, think about it. I mean, where else are you going to find one, right? It's totally fossilized. And this was given to you from a family member? My brother-in-law has major connections. You can get anything. You know, hold that up to the scale, like next to your face, because that is massive. That's a tooth. So think about how big the head, right? This is one tooth, and you know how many teeth are in a shark's mouth. That is insane. Yeah. And a megalodon is a prehistoric shark. Yeah. You can probably, God knows what it could swallow without even chewing.  Oh my God. I know.  The one who left my show early to go join the boozehounds, and he's always talking against the boozehounds. That's right. He joined the boozehounds. The Ronnie Simpson. Ugh.  Anyway, that's our good luck charm. It's very apollicable, very appropriate. Former President Trump was indicted today. Oh, he was. He was looking forward to the purport. You know, I didn't even know he was indicted. That news just came out within the last two hours. Well, they have a ton of evidence against them. My God. You know. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back there. Getting back to Bernie and the senators questioning this, this CEO who is going on and on about how generous his company Starbucks is to their employees and about how, how wonderful capitalism is and the prosperity and the skies, the limit, American dream. Hey. If you're part of the top 2%, if you got mega bucks, you experienced the American dream.  But as far as the generosity towards the Starbucks employees go and and the starting pay of $17 an hour and with benefits, it adds up to like over $20 an hour. One of the senators says that does that is not considered a living wage any longer in this country today. $17 an hour with benefits is not a living wage. So the $15 an hour that Bernie was pushing for years ago. That's obsolete. That's chump change. So this is, this shows you how rapidly the cost of living is skyrocketing for whatever reason. Could be greed. Could be other factors. But these, these wages are, are chump change. $15 an hour is now considered chump change.   There were benefits over 20, it's a value of over $20 an hour. If all these, if his company is so damn generous, Starbucks would employ yeets. And if people can really experience the prosperity of capitalism and the American dream, then how come so many Starbucks locations feel the need to unionize. These people have the, have the need to join a union.  The facts are James with regards to Starbucks. Guess what Howard Schultz's net worth is just guess. $2 billion. $3.7 billion. That was close. That's, so how much, yeah. No, I was just going to say, you say 3.7. That's $3,700 million. How much trickling, how much trickling down do you think this guy who made it sound like he trickles all the time. How much trickling down do you think he does?   Oh, this proves that we don't need, we don't need unions. You know, the company treats their employees good. Trump, the company treats their employees good. Yeah, that's why so many are happy unionized out of necessity. So here's the guy we're talking about. You would be smiling pretty big too, James. If you were screwing employees out of their money, right? He looks like a tricking car dealer. He looks like a smiling car dealer doing a commercial. So this guy worth 3.7 billion. He once owned the Seattle Sonics. He ripped the team from underneath this, right? Right. Do you know what Starbucks profit was last year? Profit. I'm talking about after they pay for everything, after they pay for all, for basically every single expense that a business has, the profit. Oh, there he is. There he is. The guy who talks against Booze House, but he leaves my show early to go join some beer show without, you know, he leaves the show with substance, with meaning to go join a bunch of closet alcoholics. Thanks a lot, Ronnie. You know. So after every debt, after every bill is paid. 2022, last year. Starbucks put close to a billion dollars in the bank. They had almost a billion dollars of profit, James.  I mean, you think about Starbucks is open 24 hours practically right working all the time under adverse conditions. Yeah. No tips.  I mean, I don't know when they're going to get around to doing this, but most places when you pay for something, there's a line on the receipt that says how much tip do you want to leave Starbucks you just tap your card and you're done. You're done. You have to tip and cash. So these poor people, the guys worth close to four billion, they put a billion dollars in the bank last year. I mean, you're right. $15 an hour. I think back when $15 an hour was popularized and talked about. Yeah. Right. That's decent. That's $600 a week. You know, you mean the gross. Yeah. That's that's before any taxes are taken out. Yeah. But then you look at how the course of living, how, how it skyrocketed with the course of to live in a, in a decent safe neighborhood with the rents are and the mortgages and then utilities and you know, I notice the electric bill suddenly went up. Rather cool. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Now why? I mean, first, a sixth up for a $6 cup of coffee. You mean to tell me people want tips? What? Why don't they just get a raise from this beaver, this beaver tooth CEO? Why don't they just, you know, I mean, it's not, it's not our fault that people are being. Underpaid like, like waitresses. That's another, that's another story they're trying to. That they're trying to. Investigate why. Food service oriented people waiters and waitresses have to get less than the minimum wage, just because they receive gratuities. That's, I mean, that's not fair, but it's not, it's not our fault.  I agree with you.  Why are they getting far less than minimum wage? You know, a waitress in a restaurant or a diner, the fucking, you know, the Greeks that own all the diners over here in the New York metropolitan area. It's pitiful what they pay those waitresses. Yeah, but still, it's still, you know, there's, there's a federal minimum wage war. There's labor laws. They just need to be hot. Yeah, they need to be like a Hooters, Hooters girl. Yeah, I know, I understand. That's why, that's why they're so friendly.   I told one of them, I says, I know you're being excessively friendly because your employer tells you to do this. And she says, what are you talking about me? I said, well, she was like very melodramatic in the way she greeted me at the door. You know, I like sincerity. You know, I don't like phones. But, but yeah, but it's not, look, listen, it's not our responsibility or fault that they are being stiffed for pay. Go after the corporations, the restaurant chains, go after the individual owners of the restaurants and the diners. You know, remind people that no one is above the law. And I just want to say yippie kye to Major League Baseball opening day is started. That's right. Can you believe it? Yeah. Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli Hooli. H H H a and I said, yeah, I don't even know. I don't even know if they're still around. I haven't been to any of these places. They might have went belly up. They might have went belly up. But yeah, I just want to show this. this character over here, Ronnie S, the new good luck charm. I love it. This is a an authentic prehistoric fossilized Megalodon too. This is our good luck charm for the new format of bringing back no no-holds-barred talk show for rest of discussion. And just imagine that grinding into somebody's thick marijuana laden head. Yeah. Yeah. A person who takes is taking too many edibles every day. Cannabis extract edibles. A very unreliable person that says, says, why did you switch the show to Thursdays? Thursdays are iffy. Saturdays are prime. Saturdays are prime. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Saturdays are prime. That's why a lot of people do no shows. Saturdays are prime, right? Okay.  If you're going to, if you're, if you say you're going to do something, do it. If you can't make it, tell him you can't make it, right? But don't say, oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's prime, James, right? It's prime. It's prime. And then he says, sorry. It's prime. He says, sorry. Sometimes I can't make it. Well, don't, you know, don't let me know like a day later or two days later. Actually, he let me know a couple of days later. Yeah, I've been to the ground round that when I was very young, it was the ground round. But there were kind of, I don't like small hamburgers. I like places that make at least, I need at least an eight ounce burger. You know, pre-cooked weight or served weight? No, no, before they cook it. So when they cook it eight ounces actually because of the water and everything that is more like six something ish ounces. Well, if it's if it's good ground beef, I mean, like I give an example, the grass fed black Angus rough grinds, rough ground beef 90 93% 93% lean. Yes. Yes, it is. 93% lean. The other one is 85. 85 is good for outside for above. Yeah, like the barbecue, right?  Like we bite into a burger and it's a crisp, right? Well, yes, you got that delicious crispiness, but also the flames and the smoke kick up and flavor the meat, the smoke. If you use in a good wood charcoal now. Like the one BC has. Yeah, or the one that Alex, the beer master Bader, when he was worshiping is like this.  Oh, yeah, it's like, yeah, he was like he was worshiping the whole table, right? James like, Oh, get it back to the meet and greet. No. It's, uh, it really doesn't shrink much, maybe like just a tiny bit because it's 93% lean. And it's a, that's true. That is true. Like Angus.  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Garbage is loaded with water. And they it's the what I would call the unsavory cuts of meat, right?  We're trying it out. So far, I'm happy. So far, so far, it's good. So far, it's really good. It's easier for Jason to participate on a Thursday and, you know, comparison to the weekend. So, you know, but I am, I am. It's great that you could, you can type commentary on the Sunday show, you know, the red pill man cake. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I quite enjoy that. For the longest time, James, the Commodore wouldn't say anything for, I don't know if he had a computer problem or if he just was a little bit shy. You know what it is? He ain't shy. He he's allegedly working on a Sunday. He he's working, but he got he got so being that he's working, he's putting in so many hours in the accounting department and and he's been so dedicated because he wants to get that Canadian government pension. And, you know, he only has a few years left. He just he just he just wanted to have some fun. He decided, you know, not to dummy up. He decided to participate and that's good. Now he's talking, of course, you know, he's extremely. I want to put this in the most positive way I can. He's very opinionated and very set in his way to very much an old dog. If you if you try to teach him a new trick, it might take a while, right? He's set in your ways.  You can't you can't reason with him. You can't, you know, talk sense to them. You know, they're setting their ways. He's set in his ways about, you know, Yankee Doodle Dandy, American flag waving, you know, the military's number one American exceptionalism number one.  Oh, yeah. And and and he's he loves Donald Trump. He's a Trump. He's a Trump and Z.  He's living in Canada, right? Like he turned his back on his country.  Right? It's his wife. His wife is from New Brunswick Maritime province and he keeps on saying that he didn't want to raise his down syndrome son in Boston because they would have picked on him. But, you know, who's to stop Canadian kids from picking on? I don't know if I believe that story entirely. That's a, you know, you start to games. I know you.  Listen, if an excuse is feeble, if it doesn't hold any any water, you know, it's very hard to believe a feeble excuse. I just I just don't buy it. And, you know, I've known him for a long time. He's he's a good friend. He's when he comes down here, he insists on paying for everything. He treats me to everything. And that is nice. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't, you know, let me pay for anything. But he's um, um, I just don't talk about politics with him. You know, I don't know those arguments that you would never like I've been there, right? I've done I've been there and done that it's best to your point.  Yeah. Yeah. They they they start they they freak out and they they start raising their voice. But so but we do have one thing in in common. Actually, we have one thing in very deep common. And that's physical fitness and exercise. So that's what that's how I met him. And that's that's what we talk about. We talk about health and fitness and exercise. And you know, he did his he did one half of his workout um, two Sundays ago. I saw some of that. That was extremely impressive. Jordy Jordy was I don't know what happened to Jordy this Sunday, but Jordy was on the show from Scotland. And uh, and he was mesmerized by him. Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool to have him live working out on the show.  Maybe a little bench press. We've all done that. But the the swinging of the clubs, like he doesn't have a whole lot of room above him. Like if he was to let go of that thing, it smashed through his ceiling. Like you've got to have extreme well control over what he's doing. He would have to go outside or you would have to he goes to the gym too. It's you know, like it's not just um, it's not just what he has in the basement and what he does in the living room. Yeah, but he is in training for um, he has two competitive events that he's going to participate in. He's gonna, he's got a powerlifting event coming soon in the state of Maine where he he'll be doing the deadlift. Then he has the vintage strength games in North Carolina where he will be doing swinging the mace. And then the second day he'll be competing with the farmers walk and a couple other things. I don't know the flipping the truck tire or something like that.    Yeah, that is. Yeah, so I'm gonna go live with the events. Whenever they are, that'd be great. Yeah, I'm gonna go live with the events. I want to talk about this gentleman here. What he did was okay, he fought and defeated alcoholism, but what he did was he exchanged one addiction for another. He doesn't, the word moderation is not in this young man's vocabulary and he is he kind of spilled the beans with me privately and he is popping too many of those cannabis edibles, cannabis extract edibles. He's just taking an excessive amount and and it shows. Well for sure, James.  Have you heard that term before? Yeah, California. In other words, you're sober as a Californian, but you're not really real sober. It means you're high. So let me hear, let me let me share this with you. This is what I think he's doing because he is living in California, right? Yeah, San Francisco. So this is the definition of California sober. I didn't just make this up. This is actually, but it's a trend called semi sobriety, right? And effectively what it is is you are, you are not sober because you are still using mind altering substances, substances, but they use marijuana in place of alcohol. So let me just highlight this for you here. Some people before the legalization of marijuana, medicinal or recreational, wait years, years before they, alcoholics would all of a sudden drink a massive amount of coffee when they used to go to Alcoholics Anonymous. They, they, they, they're very addictive people. Like they can't, they can't not be addictive with something. So they trade one for the other. Yeah, that's it. So anyway, California sober. Yeah. So California, it, it is kind of funny. You're replacing one addictive substance with another. So it is a slippery slope. So perhaps James, that is, it is and or could be what's happening with our friend who has admitted they have a problem. They do struggle with addiction. So perhaps they've traded one addiction for another. Well, when I told, when I told him privately that he looks higher than a kite, he says, well, I can't, I don't think I looked that high. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.  Well, the, the, the photos don't lie. Do they? No, I don't think so.  So and I'll say it while we're looking at him. Would you say there, James? Yeah. Be, when you're done with California sober, bring up his mug, his mug shot again. And then I'll just say, I'll just say what he told me as we're looking at his face. Okay. It might, you better go easy on those cannabis edibles, man. You better take him in moderation because you look higher than a kite. He's higher than a spy balloon. I can't be, I don't think I'm not, I don't think I looked that high. I can't be that high. James, my goodness, that is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. These people are in denial. I know that before many alcohol is actually seriously seek help. They, they, they say you can't do any intervention with them. They're like, I make control, I make control. I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not addicted. I'll be all right. I'll be all right. I'll be all right. I'll make control. And then they hit rock bottom.  But the hobby, right, like I think you mentioned a certain individual that does taste challenges at three o'clock in the morning, right? Right. But it's a, it's, it's, it's for the purpose of a hobby. Yeah, I don't, I don't, and I quote, I don't have a problem. It's, it's a hub. Okay. Yeah. Slippery slope. It's a slippery slope. Now there's an article. It's a West Coast article. And it's something that you might feel sad about. Killer, killer whales, orcas have been dying excessively and they didn't know why. I'm going to step away for just a moment, but my head said I can still hear you. Okay. Let me just, this is, this is sad when, you know, any whale, porpoise, dolphin beaches itself and is dying. Let me just bear with me, folks, bear with me, bear with me, folks, bear with me, okay, bear with me, folks, bear with me. Okay. Why do killer whales off the US West Coast keep dying? Chinese and American gene scientists have an answer. So to cut to the chase, there's been an excessive amount of inbreeding with these orcas. But I want to find out why. Inbreeding among killer whales living off the US and Canadian West Coast has kept them on an endangered list despite more than 50 years of conservation efforts. A new genomic study by American and Chinese scientists has found the genetic threat, however, is not observed in other North Pacific orcas, according to the study published on Tuesday in the peer reviewed journal, Nature, Ecology and Evolution. I have no idea why these particular orcas are inbreeding. I don't know. It's sad though, but it's very mysterious. You know, they have the whole Pacific ocean to travel through, chase food, go where the food is, meet other orcas that are not related to them. And now this is pretty damn serious. As soon as you think that COVID-19, the pandemic might be behind this, guess what? Mother Nature strikes again. Mother Nature says, I got something new. Humanoid, something new. It's not over yet. New deadly super fungus can now be found in half of the United States. Well, don't go by this. They look like plums or concord grapes, but they're not. A fungal super bug called Candida auris is spreading rapidly through hospitals and nursing homes in the United States. The first case was identified in 2016. Since then, it has spread to half the country's 50 states. And according to a new report, infections tripled between 2019 and 2021. This is hugely concerning because Candida auris is resistant to many drugs, making this fungal infection one of the hardest to treat. Candida auris is a yeast type fungus that is the first to have multiple international health alerts associated with it. It has been found in over 30 countries, including the United Kingdom since it was first identified in Japan in 2009. It is related to other types of yeast that can cause infections, like Candida albicans, which causes thrush. However, Candida auris is very different to these other fungi and in some ways highly unusual. First, it can grow or colonize human skin unlike many other Candida species that like to grow in our guts. As part of the microbiome, Candida auris does not grow in this environment and seems to prefer the skin. This means that people who are colonized with Candida auris can shed lots of yeast from their skin and this contaminates bed clothes and surfaces with the fungus. This can lead to outbreaks. Lovely. Most people who are colonized with Candida auris will not get ill from it. It causes infections when it gets into surgical wounds or the blood from an intravenous line. Once it gets into the body, it can affect organs and the blood causing a very serious and potentially fatal disease. Once it gets into the body around major organs and the blood, that's the problem. The mortality rate for people infected as opposed to colonize is a difference with the fungus is between 30 and 60 percent. That's high. But a precise mortality rate can be hard to pin down as people who are infected are often critically ill with other conditions. Sounds like COVID-19. Diagnosing an infection can be difficult as there can be a wide range of symptoms including fever, chills, headaches, and nausea. We have to keep a close eye on Candida auris as it can easily be confused with other conditions. Okay, got you. You know, life is a struggle. 30 to 60 percent, though. What was the, I suppose it's probably still being determined, but what is or was the mortality rate for COVID-19 and infected individuals? Less than one percent, I think, right? Well, the people that were high on the mortality list were those that had specific illnesses already. That's right. That's right. So if you had a predetermined condition, pre-determined condition, hypertension, cancer, heart disease, whatever. If you were BC, which is like a miracle, right?  I don't know. I don't know. Is it the alcohol that's preserving him, like formaldehyde? I mean, he gasped for air when he tries to talk on a live stream.  I mean... It's pretty bad. What's wrong, James? No, no, no, no. It's it. No, I'm okay. I'm okay.  This has to do with North Carolina, North Carolina. Let me see how much I can... Okay, more than pistol permits. Everything that's in North Carolina is new gun law. You no longer need to get a permit from the sheriff to buy a handgun. North Carolina's law also changes where you can take those guns and how you store them.  James, I'm hearing some serious feedback from... It looks like that dinosaur video you're trying to play on the PlayStation. The override has passed. There we go. And this bill will become law, notwithstanding the decisions of the governor. With that override of the governor's veto, there is a new law about guns in North Carolina. The changes break down to three different categories. Yes, so we're going to look at how you buy guns, where you can buy guns, and then how do you store those guns? Let's start with the biggest change from the law, getting rid of the permit process for buying a handgun. The permit process has been in place for about 100 years. So to find out what that means, if you go to buy a gun today, I sat down with Rockingham County Sheriff Sam Page. Do you want to purchase a handgun? You would no longer have to come to the sheriff to fill out the paperwork and apply for a purchase permit. So what steps would I have to do? If you wanted to purchase a handgun from a federal licensed dealer, a firearms dealer, then what would happen is you would go to a firearms dealer and you'd say you'd like to purchase a handgun and then they would do a NICS check, National Insta check, check the FBI, then they'd do that check on you. And if you pass the check, then they could make the sales. What if I want to buy it from my neighbor? Then again, if your neighbor wanted to do a transfer and you're not a prohibited person and that person knows you're not a prohibited person, then that neighbor could sell directly to you. Without any kind of background check? Under the current law, yes sir, as of today. How do they tell whether or not I'm a prohibited person without a background check? That would be the responsibility of the seller. You should know who you're selling to. Yes, sir. What happens if a private dealer sells a gun to a prohibited person? Then it would be in violation of federal law and state law. And they could face what kind of penalties for that? It would be a felony. Well, thanks so much. I appreciate your time, sir. Thank you. I'm back. Governor Roy Cooper originally vetoed this bill because he felt the changes to the process would create a loophole where some dangerous people could get guns. Here he is at a stop in Greensboro earlier this month explaining his view. I think that this legislation that completely eliminates the permit for a pistol, which would make it easier for people who commit domestic violence to be able to buy guns. I think it's going backward. I think we need to go forward to try to reduce gun violence while respecting the second amendment. On the other side of this issue, a spokesperson from the NRA says North Carolina's new law is a victory for the second amendment. At the end of the day, we don't think that you should need government permission in order to exercise your constitutional freedoms. If you want to buy a handgun to protect your family and have it in your home, you shouldn't need to go to the government first and ask for permission. So, you know, removing that step, which we see as a burden and an impediment to both, again, being able to defend yourself, your home, your family, but again, a constitutional freedom that you have, we just don't think you need to have the government there involved in order to execute that. According to Giffords, a gun safety group that tracks gun laws across the country, this morning, North Carolina was one of 10 states that required a permit to buy a pistol. Now it is down to nine. Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, New Jersey, Oregon, and Rhode Island. The organization also says polling shows 68% of gun owners support a law requiring a person to obtain a license from local law enforcement before buying a gun. Important to note here, that is across the entire country, not just North Carolina. Now, while that part of the law goes into effect immediately, there are other changes that we're going to see in the next coming months. For instance, beginning in July, non-smoring law enforcement employees will now be allowed. Oh, boy. What about all the lunatics that do not need a permit that just buy firearms? I mean, there was another school shooting, and another, and another, and another. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's really a bad situation. It's all I got to say. It's terrible. Especially what happened in Nashville a couple of days ago. Six people died. Several children. It's just terrible. So James, who are the Yankees playing tonight? I have no idea. I haven't watched any television today at all. I just... Yankees beat the Giants. Five-nothing. Oh, they did? Yeah. What? Yankees opening day in... Today, the Yankees... Yes, today the Yankees beat the Juck to nothing. Were they in San Francisco or were they... They were in New York. They were in New York. Oh, so opening day in New York was today. That's right. And the Mets beat the Marlins in Miami five to three. So that was... I know that Ronnie... Yeah, I would just call him right wing Ronnie. He's a big Mets fan, right? So... Yeah, apparently. You know, the Giants were... Being that Aaron Judge is from a suburb of San Francisco, that was the team he was... Yeah, everybody thought he would go there, right? Go there, but... Is he the highest-paid player right now? I think so, yeah. He... I guess he came to his senses and decided he would rather be with a team that is always in the playoffs. Yeah. You know, Aaron Boone is one heck of a manager, too. His brother, Brett Boone, used to play for the Mariners back in... Really? I don't know. In the 90s. Yeah. Who did Aaron... He's kind of a... Brett Boone. I remember Edgar Martinez and A-Rod and Ken Griffey, Jr., when they were with the Mariners. Yeah, they were... Back then, the Mariners were... Yeah, we had one heck of a team. In fact, we, in 2001, the Mariners won 116 baseball games, which I don't think a team since then has won that many. Yeah. Yeah. And then after the Mariners, I believe A-Rod went to the Texas Rangers where he... That's right. He hit like 50-some-odd home runs. Yeah. And then when he went to the Yankees, he sucked. Well, he did that. And then he also... When he got caught, James cheating, taking... Oh. Taking a banned substance or a performance enhancement. Yeah, like Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi. Oh, yeah, Giambi. I don't know about Roger Clemens. He looked kind of big for a picture. I don't know. He looked very big. Yeah. You know, if I was... With the Red Sox. If I was to show you... Let's see here. Let me see if I can show you this. See if I can figure this out. Now... So here... Oakland is a dump. I heard Oakland is... Big time. ...is a shithole. You know, they... I can see the athletics moving away from Oakland. They are talking about perhaps moving to Las Vegas. Yeah, but they're going to run... Las Vegas is going to run out of water. The future of Las Vegas and its population... I know. I, you know, I agree with you, but I also think that, you know, there's just no way the government would let that happen, right? Let's see here. Are you looking... Yeah, there's Barry Bonds. That's his rookie card, James. Look how thin that guy is there. Look how thin he is. Okay. Yeah. I watched the documentary of him and so he was with the Pirates. Now his father, I grew up watching his father play from San Francisco giant Bobby Bonds. Yes. And then he went to the Yankees before he retired. Bobby Bonds was... Oh, look at the difference. Bobby Bonds was a slender guy. He was... I mean, it's not even close. It's like twice the size, James. Yeah. That's why it is like an asterisk next to his home run record. He hit 74 in one year, right? Yeah. And also, I think McGuire and Sosa hit surpassed also. I think Roger Maris' 61 home runs also. But the thing is they were on the juice. They were on the juice when Sammy Sosa Chicago comes. There's Sammy Sosa then and Sammy Sosa now. It doesn't even look like the same person, does it? Yeah. How did he get so light? I think he had the Michael Jackson... Yeah. Michael Jackson kept on saying, it's a bitter lago. I got a little skin disease. A bitter, bitter lago. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.  He was getting by plastic surgery. He was getting bleached. Clorox. Terrible. Bitter lago. Yeah. They're ignorant. They're ignorant. They're all ignorant. They're ignorant. Now, are you familiar with the dominion? You know, the voting machine? Voting machines. Once Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and other Fox hosts and executives to take the stand at trial. And then there's a video here. But oh, here we go. There's the list here.  Dominion also said it wishes to call to the stand Abby Grossberg and Fox News producer who filed lawsuits against the network last week that alleged network lawyers coerced her into providing misleading testimony. Yeah, they knew they were lying. Oh, Rupert Murdoch, he was avoiding the coming clean with the questioning, you know, he was like, yeah, I mean, they knew that Joe Biden won fair and square. Oh, yeah, I saw that. I saw that the election wasn't rigged. What do you think is going to happen to that trial, James? Well, I hope I hope the Fox News ends up under a meteor shower and gets pummeled into oblivion.  And where is the case being tried? Is it in New York State? Let me see. Where's Ronnie? Yes, I think he was on here, right? Yeah, he was. And then when we gave him a good thorough balling out, he split, he split. When I had his number, he split. The piranha. I gave him, I twisted the megalodon tooth between his eyes and then lowered the boom and he vanished too bad. What'd you have for dinner tonight, James? I had, I just had a couple of Italian sausages on the 20 grain Dave's killer bread and a Japanese sweet potato. I find that the flavor of the Asian sweet potato is much better than the American sweet potato. Yeah, when I was a kid, we used to, parents used to make sweet potatoes all the time, and it's kind of like that mushy, you know what I'm talking about? The ones with the marshmallows in there, kind of like a Thanksgiving. You know why they put brown sugar and marshmallows? Because I did a taste test, not a Ronald Terrio taste. A taste challenge.  You got to do that. Think about that. Not a whiskey taste challenge, but a sweet potato taste challenge. Let me tell you, the Asian sweet potato, which are consumed by all the countries over there in East Asia, they have a red skin and a sort of a light yellow interior, not orange like the American sweet potato. But let me tell you, they blew away the American version. The American version was bland. It was hardly any flavor. And the Asian one with the red skin, you can't miss it when you go into the produce section, was so much more tasty that even if you didn't put any butter or olive oil or salt, it still tastes great. That's how good it was. But of course, I put the Himalayan pink salt. I put either butter or extra virgin olive oil, and it really is. My sister, for Thanksgiving, she purposely makes some of the Asian ones for me because I won't eat the American ones. Interesting, yeah. And now I know why they cook them with brown sugar and sometimes marshmallows. All right, let's see what this jabroni has to say. Fuck, I tried that one year and it gave me less money back. Turbo tax? Compared to me doing it myself. Yeah, it's all a racket. It's all a racket. Hey, look at me. I'm an expert. I'm an expert. I'm a professional like Michael Goldberg. I can't hear the audio, James. I still can't hear it. It's not playing the audio. Yeah, let me stop it. Let me stop it. If you can't hear it, we pretty much know what this is all about. We always know that Fox was like almost like a satire, like the onion or the national inquirer, you know. They were always accusing any source that criticized them of being fake news, but they were in fact the fake news. They were fake. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, they were fake phony frauds. You know, one thing I would agree with Ronald Terrio on, sometimes he mentions in his live streams or even his published videos. Yeah, gotta go watch the lies. I mean the news. Well, I don't, yeah, I don't trust mainstream America. He's automatically calling the news the lies. Let's just share this really quick here. You know, we can. Ronald was born, he was raised in a Democrat family. Oh, James, that's hilarious. It's like burr alive.  We watched that little, what is it? It's Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, right? And it, you know, one of those, I'm not sure if you knew this or not, but one of the little puppets from that show sold for an enormous amount of money at auction recently. Yeah, because what they did, you know, like people just made it and they just threw the stuff away, right? I think one of the camera people kept it. What is that clay animation they called it? No, those were puppets. So they would like, oh, yeah, let's let me see if I could. Did you see the the one who looks like BC? The have a holy jolly Christmas. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, it's a yeah, he gets very defensive and nasty. You can't tell. You can't try to help them. I once he jumped, once he jumped down my throat and someone else's throat, I got it. That's it. Never again. Okay, James, I found the article. Let me know by gully of holy jolly Christmas this year. It just shows you. Here we go. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, James. Wow. Oh, Jesus. So apparently they destroyed these after the production, but like the camera, someone from the camera crew. Why would they destroy them? I don't understand.  Think about it. You make something and you just say, all right, we're on to the next thing. You know, it. So they had conservation back then either. So they had no idea that this was going to be like a nostalgic part of people of of older generations, lives, you know, everybody who saw this as a new program as a kid. They during Christmas, they just have to watch it. Correct.  Me too. Nightmare before Christmas is fabulous. Oh, the Halloween, the world of Halloween was cool. But this two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, James. Wow. That's life changing money, right?  You can get yourself like an adobe Hacienda and outside of Vegas. Overlooking Area 51. Look at this. They I mean, if you look at what's going on here, she used them as decorations around her Christmas tree.  I mean, you know, back in the 70s, they had they had a Festivus Christmas tree and an aluminum tree with an aluminum pole. I don't know who came up with that idea. But anyway, I want to hijack this. People had live people had live trees and that caught on fire.  Yes. And the leaves would dry and fall. And then the bulbs, they didn't have any LED bulbs back then. The bulbs got hot and burn your house.  Former Treasury official warns of complete economic implosion if the US dollar loses global reserve currency status. I have heard that is is it's already happening. I've that's what I've heard. And that could be devastating because right now the US dollar is the world currency. It, you know. But if these other countries move away from that, then yes. Yes. He right away, they start talking about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin and and all this. No, I don't know about that. Yeah, I wouldn't. And that's that's that sounds speculative to me. I don't know anything about it. I'm not going to I'm not going to roll the dice. And yeah, so let's let's just banter for a little bit before you have to depart. Is your is it that your your your dinner is going to be at seven? That's right. I was going to be ready at seven. So I said, you know what? I'll just come on here a couple of hours. Seems like we've lost the chat. So maybe. Yeah. Well, you know, two hour show is is not bad. What I'll do is when you depart for dinner, I'll play the last. I think the last Jesse Ventura video was when he was on the Young Turks. You know, change, change Eicher, Uker, change Eicher. He's a big guy. Like I'm sure if you met him in person, his hands are like sausages, right?  Yeah. He's I'm surprised that they that there's there's still streaming on the web and not and that he hasn't bought like a cable station or something. You know what's interesting about him, James, is at one point in time, he was a Republican. You were aware of that, right? No. I'll show you. He came to his senses or something. Where's he originally? I think he's from New Jersey. Is he? He's from Turkey. Oh, he was born in Turkey. Born in Turkey. Istanbul. He went to the University of Pennsylvania. Okay. And Columbia University, right down the hill from you, right? Yeah. Yes. Right.  Oh, that's cool. Take some pictures. I know that when they made the movie Ghostbusters, Columbia University was kind of where they were based, right? So yeah, no, I could I could when the library is pretty famous, right? When the weather is nice, this Grant's tomb is over there. Columbia University is a new skyscraper going up there. But I'll take that. That'd be great. I'll take a few photos of it. So he's a Democrat from 2007 to present. Yeah. He was independent from 2000 to 2007. And he was Republican until 2000. Now you look at what year he was born. So he was effectively a Republican until he turned 30. Well, what is what does he claim to be now? It sounds progressive to me. Democrat. He's Democrat.  But he was independent from 2000 to 2007. So from the age of 30 to 37, he was independent. Well, he definitely exposes everyone who deserves to be exposed. Absolutely. So I figured I would just share that with the viewers. He's not he's not part of the he's not. He doesn't march in lockstep to the oligarch. That's for sure. That's correct. Otherwise, he will be on a major network. He will be on a major network if he was. Well, he he he makes money off of the young Turks. He's the so he's a capitalist. I wonder what his network worth is. Yeah, for such a left wing progressive. I wonder what his net worth is. Yeah. They say he's worth 10 million. I could pull this up here. Let me show this. He's a progressive that enjoys capitalism. Now, you would think that Ronnie would want to jump on being that you're with me and everything. You know, you never asked me. Actually, I posted the link.  That's pretty good. It's pretty good for a progressive. What's interesting is, right, you know, people throw these 10 million, 100 million, whatever. Let's just say 100,000 a year. It takes you 100 years to get to 10 million. It takes you 10 years to get to a million. It takes you 100 years to get to 10 million. That's a lot of money. So he's obviously. See, I don't know if I ever mentioned my scheme or plan that let's say. If I could wave a magic chilele and I won the power ball lottery, I wouldn't spend one red cent on anything, except I would lock it up in a tax-free municipal like money market fund and I would live off the interest.  Especially now with the interest rates going up when the Fed raises interest rates. That's pretty decent. I think that you could easily get forward a six percent. I would arrange it so the interest is conveniently and properly direct deposit into my checking account and the interest will go in there and that is my petty cash. That is my spending money. Anybody ask me, you know, any long-lost relative plays a violin, gives me a sob story. I'll just say, sorry, it's all locked up. It's all locked up. How much you need again? Yeah, here's five cents for a cheeseburger, right? I'll buy a cheeseburger. I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. The worship party, but oh yeah. Yeah, worship in the burger. That's so funny, James. That is so funny. Yeah, but anyway, live yesterday, last night for a little bit. The Megalodon tooth. Anyway, anybody who pisses us off will say you're going to get the Megalodon tooth between your eyes, grind it for good luck. And if you ever see these people in real life, yeah, you'd need to shower after spending time with them. They're probably, they probably stink that bad. I'll put this, this, this different type of Japanese jujitsu sleeper holes on them and put them to sleep for a while. Mr. Commodore will come over and put those hammers.  Yeah, the Commodore is, he came, he came down several times actually, just hang out with me and he, I took him on the walkway along the Hudson River. And I showed him the, it's like a deck jutting out from the walkway over to Hudson. And that's a perfect place for him to swing his mace, you know, with Manhattan in the background, you know, in the fresh air. Did he have it with him? No, he only brought the Indian Clubs. He only brought the three pound Indian Clubs, you know, but he didn't bring anything heavy with him now. If he rents a car, I don't know how he drives so far. If he rents a car again, instead of flying, he should bring like his pride and joy mace, or made by a company called Adex. It is an adjustable mace where you can change the way at the end. And he said it's very smooth. The swing is impeccable. And he should just throw that in a trunk. And I'll get my Sony camera, my HD 18.3 megapixel high definition, and I'll take videos of him, or I can just take my phone out and go live right on StreamYard. Oh, that's perfect. I can go live. You know, I don't have any problems with the Android when I go live on the StreamYard. It's like, that's what I use when I, when I went to the oil, you can eat the sushi. I use the phone. We miss watching those, James. Maybe you could do that again. Yeah, when, oh no, I'll be, I'll definitely be going back there. I just don't know exactly when, but yeah, I use this. I propped it up. For the Duck King, right? Well, Duck King, I don't go there. Not that I don't like them. I like the owner. She talks to me a lot. I like the waitresses are friendly, but she rose, she rose.  She raised their prices. So the boneless, crispy duck instead of being 20 bucks is now $26 and change. That's a big jump. I'm sorry. You know, yeah, first lesson of business is, you know, kind of raise the prices gradually so people don't even know, right? So every six months, you add another dollar. So yeah, you just don't wake up one day and say, oh yeah, we're going to go from 20 to 26. People will be like, eh, so she could have lost business by doing that, right? She's not, she's not probably, she's probably not putting any more money in her pocket than she did before, even though she's charging more proportion. It can't be penny wise and pound foolish. Right.  I mean, I know you're trying to survive under the circumstances, but you know, I mean, I just order from my favorite Chinese takeout and they deliver. That's it. Yeah, that's pretty easy, right? I mean, I don't get duck because, you know, it's not cost effective, but a lot of these takeouts, they say by time we cut the duck up, duck is bony, they tell me. Duck is very fatty, duck is very bony. By time you cut the duck up and remove the meat to make up there, just be duck. That's out of luck. They, they don't make too much profit really on the duck. That's what she told you? No, this is somebody in a takeout place told me, the owner of one of the takeouts. Oh. Is it's a big hassle for them to order the duck, cut it up, re-bone it, get it ready to make crispy duck, whatever, you know, they make something called Warshu Duck, which I think is Cantonese Hong Kong. Most of the restaurants are Cantonese people, you know, from Hong Kong. I know Hong Kong is famous for dim sums, dim sum dumplings. And what's the other thing? All my favorite, but the Polynesian, the oldest Polynesian restaurant in New Jersey closed. They closed after all these years. Since I was a little kid, they chanced dragon in clothes and I used to get my favorite. I used to get leachy pineapple duck, which are crispy boneless duck sauteed or in like a sweet and sour sauce with leachy, leachy fruits and pineapple. That sounds great. Leachy fruit and and chunks of pineapple in a sweet and sour sauce. Does your daughter have any songs that she wants me to play on Zoom? Unfortunately, at this time I'm being summoned into the Time to eat. It is time to eat. So, James, I'm going to have to sign out here. It's always a pleasure. Thank you very much. Thank you. Seriously. Let's do this again. That sounds like a great, that sounds great. This plan, I mean this strategy, this format, obviously works. Absolutely. I got you for two hours. That's good enough. Thanks to the chat, Tommy. Let me go back to the names here. Starting with Bart Robinson. Bart, it was great to see you. Great to hear from you, Tommy Carroll. And then as always, Ronnie Simpson. Hopefully we can have you join us next time, right? Yeah. He's surprised we're here on Thursday, but you know what? Saturday is not the primo day. It's primo, James. It's primo. Hey, it's primo. What did he say, Michael Hilton? Oh, Thursday is iffy. It's iffy. It's iffy. I think his brain cells are iffy. Yeah, the gummies are, yeah, anyway. All right, exactly. Yes, the funnel. The gummies are going in like Homer's hip swallowing. Exactly. Homer Simpson. All right. All right, James. Take care. Thanks again. Have a good day. Take care, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, it's me. I will play the last Jesse Ventura. Well, before I do that, okay, the federal government announced that the new round of updated COVID-19 booster shots are available this spring. Okay, I'll probably get my sixth shot. I mean, you would think five vaccinations is enough. This one, let me see. Let me try this one. Before I go to Jesse Ventura, let me just, okay, this is, scientists have just found an untouched civilization in the Amazon jungle. Really? And we have a video, so I can relax and make sure I see it. There are a number of places on earth that remain shrouded in mystery, despite the best efforts of scientists to explain them. Some of these places are locations where strange things have happened for centuries, while others are relatively new. But one thing is for sure, they all remain a mystery. So from the largest monolithic structure in the world, to the temple that contains mummies of bulls, today we will take a look at the 15 most mysterious locations that science still can't explain. Number 15, Kailash Temple. The Kailash Temple in the Alora Caves of India is the largest monolithic structure in the world, and a testament to the impressive skills of ancient builders. The temple is a stunning example of rock cut architecture, intricately carved from a single solid rock, but even experts remain baffled by how the builders accomplished such a feat. Some say the temple was constructed by a lone artisan over many years, while others believe it was the work of a team of skilled craftsmen. Actually, this is 15 archaeological locations. This is not part of the general format of progressive discussions. So I'm going to go right to the Jesse Ventura video with the young Turks. I'm going to start from the beginning. I just want to thank everyone for coming, for attending progressive discussions on this new day of having the show Thursday because it allows me to have my co-host back again, back in action, Mr. Jason Cleaton, which I was very pleased to have him, Seattle, Washington, Mr. Jason Cleaton. So all right, we're going to go with Jesse Ventura. He had another great guest for you guys here on the Young Turks, Jesse, the body Ventura. Look at this resume. Professor, wrestler, commentator, talk show host, actor, just not a big deal, an underwater demolition team member. That sounds badass. Mayor, former Minnesota governor, current best-selling author, new book is Jesse Ventura's Marijuana Manifesto. Well, you know what that tells you, don't you? I can't hold a job too long. Well, you've got news about that today, too. And it's true because I've accepted the fact that I'm stricken with something called wanderlust. That I do something for, and it works out nice in politics because it's usually at about the four-year mark. I was in the Navy on active duty for four years. Then two in the reserves, of course. Mayor, four years, governor, four years. So four years is kind of the limit for me. And then I start looking for something else to do, some other mountain to climb, some other hill to roll down, whatever it might be. Jesse, I actually have a whole theory on that four-year rule. In my case, it's about relationships. I think that humans are not meant to be monogamous. We're not meant to be the opposite of monogamous. We are meant to stay together for four years. We have sex, nine months, a woman is pregnant, and then about three years for the kid to grow up so that he can run away from the lives. And then we start to, then we go into another monogamous relationship for another four years. Well, I think your DNA is- I screwed that all up then because I've been married 41 years. You picked the right thing to stick with. Yeah, that's the only thing I've stuck with. And people, you know, it's funny, I got to ask that question, especially if out here in LA you'll get asked that question, how do you stay married 41 years? And I answered it simply because not only is she my lover, she's my partner, she's part of me. I don't have an entourage. My wife does the computer. My wife has the cell phone, I don't. So she's a necessity for Jesse, the body Ventura, as well as the private life, Jesse Ventura. And she's the person after 41 years who I intimately trust. And how can that be replaced? It can't. Yeah, and I think that the people, the longer they stay together, the more they become a piece of each other. Because who we are is not really about our body, right? It's about our psychology, our mentality. And once you live with someone that long, you guys are intermatched. So it's a great story. It's a wonderful story. So look, of course I want to talk about your book, and you got a new TV show coming up. I want to talk about that a little bit too, especially as it relates to election night. But of course we got to talk about that election. So now, I'm curious about your thoughts. You've been on our show before. I've been on your show before. Yeah. I'm pretty comfortable with where you stand on Hillary Clinton. I'm sure that you're not a big fan, right? Well, I'm not a fan of Hillary because I'm not a fan of the broken down bribery system that the Dems and Repubbs have created and that she's a product of that system. That's right. And it's a system of bribery. It's a system of corruption. And to me, anyone who thrives in that system for the length of time she has has to be comfortable with that corruption that is part of that system of bribery. And so I'm not comfortable with her. Plus to me, it's like, come on, between Bushes and Clintons, I thought we fought the Revolutionary War and not to be governed by royal families. And now, you know, now we have families. And now, who's next? Chelsea? Yeah, well, she's down the road. She'll be president someday following in mom's footsteps. And so that part of it irritates me that there are other people capable of governing and running this country other than the career designated political choices that these two parties offer. So, you know, a lot of progressives can't understand why people dislike Hillary Clinton so much. They're like, she's just a normal politician. But I think Jesse really nailed it there, which is that if you've been an, it's true, she's not particularly evil. She's not necessarily worse than all the other politicians. But if you've been comfortable in this corrupt system for that long, it does say something about you. Yes, I can't do it. Like I do one term, people have often asked me, you could have been reelected governor for a second term. Why didn't you do it? And one of the reasons why, and I tell people honestly, being with Democrats and Republicans, which I had to be with as the independent between the two of them.  Yeah. Have you ever had one of those jobs where you worked at it as a young, and you come home and you know, I need a shower? Well, that's what it's like. Well, I had two of those jobs. I was a corporate lawyer, and I worked at MSNBC. I have a history with them. I know. So, and you're right about the Hollywood royalty. George P. Bush is literally getting ready. He's holding office in Texas. That's Jeb Bush's son. They're getting them ready for the next round. They're grooming them. So, like these are the only leaders we can find in this country. We're supposed to be a country governed by and for the people. Not royal families. As much as I respect the Kennedys, we've seen enough of them too. Yeah. You know, it's time for other people. It's so frustrating. The only good thing that one of the royal families did was that at least they took down Donald Trump, because it was Billy Bush who was in those tapes with Donald Trump. But that's my take on it. I'm curious what your take on Trump is. We'll get to the Trump tapes. But overall, what's your sense of Trump? Well, I think that he, I don't know what went wrong. Well, here's the thing people need to understand. The original Trump people and the original Sanders people wanted the same thing. One was just the far left. The other is the far outer right. But they still wanted Washington cleaned up and disintegrated and started again, which is what I want. So I can relate to both, but they can't come together. That's why the status quo is winning because they'll stay, because of the left and the right, they will never come together. Even though they want to accomplish the same thing, actually. That's why Hillary will win, I think, and we'll have business as usual. Nothing will change the war. See, to me, through all of these debates and stuff, the major issue is not being hit. And to me, that's the war. Yeah, yep. We've been in it now for 15 years. It's cost us a trillion dollars. We've accomplished nothing. And it's worse now than it was before. And who's gonna, I say, I support who's gonna get us out. I want out and I want out now. Not five years from now, not a slow effect of withdrawal, because that's just lying. And then you'll bring other advisors in through the back door and it'll continue for another decade. I want out now. And only Gary Johnson's assured me of that. So, as Martin Luther King said, you're not interested in the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. And that's what a lot of the standard politicians offer. Today on the show, I talked about how we fired on Yemen because we think they fired on one of our ships. Well, what's one of our Navy ships doing off the coast of Yemen in the first place? They're in the middle of a civil war that's got nothing to do with us. Why are we there? So we can get into it. So we can get fired upon. Yes. And that way it justifies us entering the fray. Yeah, yep. And so it's all, you've got to read Smedley Butler's War as a Racket. Yeah, Smedley Butler as large an American hero as maybe we've ever had, not just because of the book, but obviously his actions. Two-time congressional Medal of Honor winner. Yeah. And preventing, you know, a coup against FDR. Yep. I don't, like, we love hero worship, right? We got all of our history books are filled with hero worship. Instead of worshiping a guy like Christopher Columbus, who if you read his diaries, his horror, the one of the worst people that's ever lived, why don't we find General Smedley Butler, who was a great general and a heroic general and then stood up and saved the country when they wanted to do a coup. And not only that, he goes against, he says war is what it is. It's a racket. We go into it under false pretense so people can make money. It's all about making money for war profiteers and the military-industrial complex. Like, okay, Hillary wants us all to disarm, right? Well, my answer to that is, Hillary, when you come after my guns, let the United States disarm first. We are the biggest gun dealer in the world.  Hillary Clinton, when I see my country not sell another weapon, then come and talk to me. Okay, now that's why I love having Governor Ventura on because we agree on things very passionately and we disagree on some issues, including Second Amendment interpretation. But Governor, I would take your deal in a second. Disarm America and not, of course, all disarmament, but like, let's stop going into wars. Yes. And then stop selling arms. And then let's do gun control. Wait, let's stop selling arms. And okay, the thing on gun control, I live in Mexico. Gun control strictly followed there. You cannot have a gun. Yet they have 20,000 gun murders a year down there or more. And yet guns are banned. You can't... No, I got a level three protection dog because I can't take a gun. You cannot own a gun in Mexico. Strict gun control. And yet there's more murders by guns down there than there are here. Well, no, per capita we're number one. Don't mess with America. We're number one in gun homicides, let alone suicides because our suicides are more effective because we do it by guns. And so if we get into a gun debate, I can pull out a lot of numbers on how we're killing ourselves. And I can give you one too to think about. I was in the Philippines the day that Ferdinand Marcos became a dictator. I was there physically. And when he was there, the first decree he made as dictator, he gave the Philippine people, I believe it was 12 to 15 days to turn in all guns or it was the death penalty. Now my question is, why would a dictator make that his number one priority above all others?  No guns, turn them in or you're put to death. Okay, well, I'm going to counter with Australia then. There was no dictator. They had a mass shooting. They just did massive gun control. Haven't had a single mass shooting since decades upon decades and no mass shootings. That's because if there's more guns, there's a lot of lunatics in the country. You know that, right? And they just grab a gun. And in Mexico, the real problem isn't guns or lack of guns or more guns. In Mexico, the problem is the war on drugs, which is what you write about in the book. So let's tackle that. I'll get back to the election. Right? So why call it a marijuana manifesto? And what is the manifesto? What do you think we should do? Well, first let me explain why I got focused on that because someone very close to me developed a seizure disorder. And I lost my quality of life because of it. I did. Because if you've ever dealt with seizures, they're horrid. And you're helpless when you deal with them, with the person who's seizing, they're a nightmare. And the person went on four different pharmaceutical medicines, one after the other, after the other. None of them worked. It was like nothing but an experiment. Well, we'll put you on this. Well, that hasn't worked. We'll put you on this.  In desperation, we went to Colorado. We got, quote, medical marijuana, three drops under the tongue three times a day. That was two and a half years ago. And the person hasn't had a seizure sense and is completely weaned off all the pharmaceuticals completely and is cured by marijuana. Now, that's what made me go, wait a minute. There's other people out there suffering and our federal government is denying them and forcing them to suffer. Well, Jesse Ventura, the crusader he is, is now on the crusade to stop that suffering. I'm demanding full legalization of marijuana when you learn about its history. If they live today, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington would be raided by the DEA. They would be prosecuted and probably spending 10 to 12 years in federal prison as major drug dealers. Now, does anyone out there besides me see something wrong with that picture? These are the guys that wrote the Declaration of Independence. Our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and by the way, all made on marijuana and Betsy Ross's original flag made out of marijuana. If that doesn't make it all American, what does? And the point is, this is an issue big where we talked about the Sanders people and the Trump people. Here's the issue. Over half of America wants full legalization but our government's telling us no. This is the issue. We can rise up, tell our government this message. We're in charge, not you. You work for us. We don't work for you. And marijuana, we want it legal and you're not going to stop us because you work for us. It's your job to provide what we want. And this could be the issue that could actually do it. So I'm actually very hopeful that we're going to get the right and the left together because I do a lot of interviews here. We talked to John Cusack last night. We had Dick Morrison a couple of days before that. I had the right, the left, everyone. And we largely agree. The people who don't agree are the politicians. So there are many, many things we disagree on. Of course. We just talked about one gun control. But that's normal in America. So you're supposed to have those debates. You're supposed to ask them out. But on marijuana, it's another topic like money and politics, like the war, that actually a great majority of the country does agree on. But our politicians won't let us have it. Why? Because those pharmaceutical companies that you tried first, your friend tried first, they got a lot of money to make. And they don't like something that's natural and doesn't cost a lot of money that actually cures the problem better. It's even bigger than that. It's the government. Think of this. If the government could tax you for the air you breathe, they'd do it. So they don't, the government doesn't like you. And when I mean you, I mean us, the people. They don't want us getting nothing for free. They need a cut of everything we do. The problem with marijuana, if you legalize it, as my mother grew tomatoes in the backyard every summer, you could grow it in the backyard. Poor people would have access to it. They wouldn't have to pay pharma. They wouldn't have to pay taxes on it. They could grow it and use it themselves as they needed it. There's the rub. Follow the, just like when Deep Throat told Woodward in the bowels of the park in Latin, all the president's men follow the money. Right. I actually think that follow the money is absolutely right. There's no question about that. I think the bigger factor here is the money that the pharmaceutical companies are giving to the politicians. I think it's also us rebelling against our government. The government's telling us you can't have it and we're not giving in to you. Yeah. And so in charge, not you. In one of the states where they proposed medical marijuana recently, one of the giant pharmaceutical companies is fighting tooth and nail against the ballot initiative. Why?  That's much cheaper. That's an alternative. It works better. And it can be free. And it can be free. So well, there goes their profits. Right. There's free. See, the government over on board, if the corporations get it, like Amheuser-Busch with Budweiser, if the corporations get control of the marijuana, you'll see the government say, okay. Oh yeah, all of a sudden it'll turn around. All of a sudden, let's see, they don't want us to have control of it. You, the individual. Because then you defy them. As I said, you don't have to pay them. You can grow it yourself. And poor people could get it. Just like, look at this horrible thing with the stuff for bee stings. Where it was $20 for that injection. Yep. Now it's $400. Yeah. You know why? See, there's your example of Big Pharma. Raping and profiting. Whoever did that should go to jail. Well, the CEO of that company is the daughter of a U.S. Senator. So round and round we go. I don't care, she should go to jail. Of course, of course. But that's why she's not going to jail. And so, to me, I look at, and I think this election is actually a perfect example of it. We've got two sides of this coin, right? We've got the corrupted, which is the politicians who've taken all this money to make sure they don't do anything that the corporations aren't happy with. Hillary Clinton is a decent example of that. Yep. And then we've got the corruptors, the people who are corrupting them in the first place. If you're corrupted, you've got to get corrupted by something, right? And they're getting corrupted by all that money going into politics and sometimes their own pockets when they give the speeches on Wall Street, et cetera. And I think Donald Trump is a pretty good example of the corruptors.  I think it was around $150 million, right? I mean, that's a good deal, right? And so that's why they do it. And then he went and gave $25,000 to Pam Bondi down in Florida. All of a sudden, she stopped investigating Trump University. So might be, is with both of them, both of them. And you've got to tackle both sides of that equation. So let me ask then, why are you going to vote for one of them? Listen to Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead. He said, if you're made to pick the lesser of two evils, that means you're still picking evil. Why do people want to pick evil? There are other candidates out there. And guess what? They can win one of them sitting next to you. And I proved it. I was polling 9% at Labor Day. I was allowed in the debates. See, when Trump says it's rigged, it is. It's rigged against any third person. Completely rigged. And I proved that I was polling 9% at Labor Day. I was allowed in the debates. In 60 days, I was the governor of Minnesota. Yeah. So they're not going to let that happen again. So here's our context. It's very important because I totally agree with you. You're an independent Minnesota. And and getting the debate made all the difference. I've been arguing from day one that they should let Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in the debates. It is 100% rigged. In this case, it's not a metaphor. It's literal. The two parties to control the debates. You know what you're qualifying? It shouldn't be this unattainable 15%. No, here's what should qualify you for the debates. Are you on the ballot in enough states to win the electoral college? And if you're on the ballot, which both of them are, because Gary, I think, is in all 50. And I think she's in 40 some 47 something. Well, that means they're on the ballot. Theoretically, if they win the states, they're on the ballot. They will be the president. That should be the criteria. Theoretically, if you're on the ballot in enough states to win the electoral college, you should be allowed to debate. So the reason I wrote up the John Cusack interview from yesterday is because see, we talked about things that can and cannot be said. Why is Spedley Butler not taught? It's just a subtle thing, right? He's as patriotic as almost anyone that's ever been in the country, right? More. Right. But he doesn't help the war profiteers so he gets written out of history. So could we have a standard where you'd have more people in debates? Of course we could. We're just choosing not to, right? And the reason we're doing that is because the debate commission is no longer run by the League of Women Voters. It's run by the two parties. Two parties. And so, of course, they don't want you to be in the debates because they're the only two that are allowed in. It's a monopoly. No, like Ralph Nader, the two-party dictatorship. I like the way Ralph described it, the two-party dictatorship. Right. So in 15% without them having the stage of a debate is a completely unreasonable standard. Absolutely. So I agree with you wholeheartedly on that. I agree with you. If you said three months ago, Gary Johnson or even Jill Stein has a chance of winning, I totally would have agreed with you, especially in this election. It's crazy. If they were allowed in the debates. Right. So you asked me why would I vote for one of them because I think Donald Trump is a threat to the Republic. And at this point, things could change, but at this point, Gary Johnson or Jill Stein do not have a realistic chance of winning. Of course not. So if they had a chance, then I'd say, okay, that makes sense.  You see what I'm saying? I'm going to get those guys anyway. I'm going to fight against Hillary Clinton. We're going to beat the establishment. But I can't, I can't risk Trump. Well, then I don't think you're truly risking Trump because everyone that votes for an alternative candidate is like me. You're voting because you want that person to be president. And it's arrogant for people to believe that if I don't vote for that person, I would have automatically voted for this other person. And that's the old standard excuse. The two parties, the losers use to not to admit they lost the election. Oh no, Al Gore lost because Ralph Nader was in there. No, people voted for Ralph because they wanted Ralph to be president. It's that simple and it's arrogant for anyone else to think that had they not voted for Ralph, they would have automatically voted for Al Gore. And that's not true.  I have to live to my principles. And my principles are I vote for the person I most want to be president. I don't vote against someone else. I vote for someone. And I'm not the mainstream media. I don't yell at people. You have to vote the way I'm voting, okay? Be responsible, be adults, whatever. You vote whatever you like. Obviously, we have agreements, disagreements, so you're going to vote for Gary Johnson because you really, really agree with him. That's the other thing. There's a lot of things I disagree with Gary. Sure, I do too. Yeah. He's a climate change denier, but I also know him personally and he's smart enough that he could have his mind changed. The one thing that Gary Johnson's got to do is he, I know it's libertarian stuff. He doesn't think we need to get money out of politics. That's crazy. That's crazy. Then you're never going to end the corruption. Even if a third party candidate was president, you wouldn't end it. No, no, no. There's a way to do it and to keep it in, but there's an honest way to do it. You know how you do it? You make it full disclosure and only the candidate, none of these other groups. So that way, no matter how much the candidate gets paid, the candidate has to fully disclose who the money came from. That way you as a voter then know if I were to run for president, and let's say hypothetically, Vince McMahon decided to give me 50 million dollars. Probably wouldn't give it to you. He wouldn't, but let's use him as a good example. Well, then in full disclosure, I take that money, but I have to disclose to the public. Vince McMahon gave me 50 million dollars. So you as a voter then can say, okay, does he still have credibility with me accepting this huge donation? But see, the way it's set now, they contribute and no one's responsible. No one has to accept responsibility to disclose where the money has come from. So you either have to go one way or the other. You either have to do public financing, or you have to have open full disclosure. But only the campaign committee of the candidate can accept the money. No packs, no outside TV. It has to come from the candidate's election committee. That way the candidate assumes full disclosure of every nickel he or she takes. And then you be the judge. Has he been bought off? If somebody's gotten 500 million dollars from Wall Street, well, then you as a voter can say, somehow I figure this guy might be loyal to Wall Street. Not if you're in the mainstream media. They'll say, no, that doesn't prove anything. But see what I mean? You either have to go one extreme or the other. Full disclosure. And that's what I think Gary's talking about. Is because Angus King, the independent senator from Maine, he's for that also. Not for getting the money necessarily out, but for making full disclosure to only the candidate. You make it that only that way the candidate has to fully disclose where every nickel he's running with came from. So I think full disclosure is a minimum. I think that it's much better than where we are today. To me it's saying, okay, I'm going to tell you who's bribing me. I'd prefer to end the bribery, but okay, I get it. It's better than what we have today. At least make the candidate accept, instead of these ads that are put out where the real lying takes place, are these ads that are put out by the special interest groups. They're not held to any standard. They don't face any fines or anything for lying. They can do anything they want. Who do we have to thank for that? Our illustrious Supreme Court. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Look, my idea is there's two paths to an amendment in the Constitution, because we've got to go above the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court says, no, bribery is legal. Corporations are human beings. So you've got to amend the Constitution. You have to amend the Constitution. And until our generation, every generation did it. So it's not like it's not doable, it's doable. And going back to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who you brought up, they were literal revolutionaries. So they built revolution into the Constitution. They said, you're supposed to do a revolution. You don't have to pick up a musket. You amend it. That's the revolution. And so what nobody talks about is they say, oh, well, Congress isn't going to do it. Of course Congress isn't going to do it. They're corrupt. There's a second path, because these guys are revolutionaries. They said, OK, they're going to get too corrupt in Washington one day. You can do it through the states. You call for a convention. And the beauty of the convention is, then Jesse can come with his ideas. I can come with my ideas. We can all come conservatives, libertarians, and liberals can come and go, all right, let's figure out how to fix this. Let's figure out how to fix these damn elections, because we've got to get back to free and fair elections. Otherwise, this mess is going to continue forever. Oh, yeah. And I'm afraid to tell you, when Hillary wins, the mess will continue forever. Oh, no, no, no. Let me tell you something. I know that for a fact. I go in eyes wide open.  That means you love her. No, no, no. Look, Jesse, the people of Minnesota had a really interesting choice when you ran for governor. That is a choice most of us don't have most of the time. We usually have to vote for the lesser of two evils. By the way, did you know I had to, I had to read off Hillary when I ran for Minnesota? What do you mean, read off? She came and said some very derogatory things about me. She didn't even know me. Oh, of course. She's supporting the Democratic. And you know what she said when she came there? She said that, okay, it's time to end the carnival show. And she alluded to me as a carnival show. And so when the press came up to me and said, how do you feel Hillary Clinton came here and said it's time to end the carnival show and pick the real governor because I was rising in the polls. Right. I said, well, that's fine. But I said, really, my advice to Hillary is this. I said, I really think Hillary should stick around the White House and not leave Bill home alone. Instead of worrying about what's happening in Minnesota, she ought to worry about what Bill's doing when she's gone because that was after all that stuff had come out. And I got offended. She shot me.  Well, get ready.  I do. I do. We don't get mad. We get even. So whether it's her shot at you, your shot at me, the most interesting thing is, look at this. You want to talk about a carnival? It's the same show all these years. Now they're saying Trump's the carnival show, right? Which there's a merit in that claim, I think, right? But it's the same old trick. Anyone that's not part of the establishment, oh, dismiss them. It's just, oh, that's a circus. It's a problem that happened. They dismissed Donald a year ago. And he won. And that's what's been stunning to them. And that's why you've got the Republicans defecting to the Democrats and all this because they're so terrified of the change. They're terrified of the unknown. They're terrified of why Jesse Ventura scares them. Because when I come out with truth, people say they want the truth. But when you hit them with the truth, sometimes it disturbs their comfort zone. And people don't like their comfort zone disturbed. That's why I get heat because I disturb comfort zones. Yeah. And you've done that on a couple of different levels. Let's talk about one of them, which is the mainstream media. And so you sued Chris Kyle's estate. Well, him first. Him first. And then it automatically reverts to the estate on his tragic death. And so American sniper. And I've had a lot of choice words to say about him.  He served. Jesse, you ever served with anyone that didn't tell the truth before? My guess is there's a decent number of people that are human beings that serve who don't tell the truth. In the Navy, it's called sea stories. They have a term for it. Yeah. It's very well known in the Navy. It's called a sea story. Yeah. So having nothing to do with your lawsuit, I just, Chris Kyle was not sitting on top of the Superdome, shooting random people in the middle of Hurricane Katrina. Of course he wasn't. That's an obvious, obvious lie, right? So there's so many things he says. Not to him. Yeah. So you sued him because he lied about you. Yeah. Okay. That's what the law is there for. It never happened. And it literally destroyed my public career. Because I was off the grid at the time the story broke. Living off the grid in Mexico, I couldn't defend myself. All I could do was Skype my attorney and bring a lawsuit immediately to stop it. And then I didn't return until May. And by then the damage had all been done. I lost my television show over at Conspiracy Theory over that. I could not get any employment in the United States because of it. I was a pariah for defending myself. And all the time they portrayed it that I were after he died that I was going after the widow and the children, which wasn't true. Because anyone that's written a book in the contract, any lawsuits are handled by the publishing company. And they have insurance and they have their lawyers to handle that. So the family was never in jeopardy of losing anything. And I wasn't out for money. I was out to clear my name. And he wouldn't do it when I met him face to face. He did, for all the courage he had, he didn't have the courage to tell the truth. So he had said that you guys, you had started a fight with him? No, he said that what happened was we were both, we were there together. That event occurred. I was there because in the tradition of the UDT SEAL community, when every 100 classes, I'm class 58, while I came to the graduation of class 158, that was back in about the year 1990 roughly, I think. And this was now going to be the graduation of class 258 tomorrow. So I flew out to San Diego to attend their graduation. So McPeese is the watering hole for all the SEALs and Coronado. So the night before I went there, I met friends there. We sat at a table while Kyle and his group were there also. They were there in awake for one of their comrades who was killed in the Iraq war. And they were there for a completely different reason than we were. And they also had an $1,100 drinking budget that they drank. Their bill that night was $1,100 bucks for the Kyle group. Do you think they were intoxicated? Yep. And so what did you say happened? My group was not. Nothing happened. I took pictures with people. The thing occurred the next day I went to the graduation. The graduation happened. The following day we had a get-together Saturday on the beach of my class of classmates from old. And I went home. Never occurred to me. And then in the year 2012, this book comes out where he alleges that I said Navy SEALs deserve to die and lose a few. Now, why would I say that about my own unit? If I believe that, why would I be there honoring a graduating class? Makes no sense. He then said that I bowed up to fight him and that he decked me, knocked me down, and then ran. So we wouldn't get caught. Well, in the trial, no one testified they saw me get hit. Not even his buddies could say it. Nobody testified that I said anything like that, that they heard me do that. That's why you won. That's why. And think of that for a moment. He's now gone and the trial automatically goes to his estate to clear my name. How overwhelming must the evidence have been for the jury to have sided with me over the widow of the dead war veteran? But they did. And the jury didn't know that the insurance was paying for it. They thought it's coming out of the estate and they sided with you anyway. No. Yeah, but they did learn that because the federal judge allowed it in at the end of the trial because why they did what was called poor mouthing, which is an exception. Normally they don't allow the jury to know that insurance involved. But if the other side, poor mouse, if they get on the stand and say, oh, this is strapping me financially, when it's not, that's what they did. They led the jury to believe that I was hurting the family to lower so they win the case. Well, then the judge still wouldn't let it in because we appealed to him. Their poor mouthing wouldn't still let it in. Finally, two people from Harper Collins, the book company came to testify to diminish my role in the book. So I wouldn't get a big award. Well, at that point, they're the ones providing the insurance. At that point, the federal judge ruled it can come in limited now. That's too big of a conflict of interest. When they're the ones providing the insurance and they're here testifying to maybe change or lower the award. So what happened? It was four questions in an 11-day trial. It was a half a page of a final summation of 20 pages. And the appeals court overturned it on that. And said the jury was poisoned. Even though they admitted the award wasn't out of line. And that's supposed to be taken into consideration too. Now, when the awards out of line is when the award 140 million, I won 1.83. So look, the case is interesting in and of its own right. The case is interesting because you've got two really big personalities that Americans know. You, Chris Kyle. So it gets a lot of attention. But actually the most important part of the case is the appeal. Because then the media companies came into the case. And against you during the appeal. Yes, wanting it overturned. Because I won on defamation and what's called unjust enrichment. That they made money by defaming me, which they did. We proved in court, do you know what Kyle's book sales was? The day before he said what he said about me? 2000. Do you know what the book sales was? It came out in the courtroom. You know what it was a day later? 100,000. You mean when that controversy broke? In one day it went from 2000 to 102,000. Pre-sale was 2,000. And then he comes out with this revelation that he punched me out in a bar. And it jumped 100,000. And Harper Collins went so far as they then continued it. They wanted it rolling. We got their email. We got to get a ride this. Even they never expected it was a niche book. It then soared to number one on the New York Times best seller list. Well, guess who the rocket, the booster rocket was that took it there. What he did to me. Right. And so again, the media, wait, they even made it. Oh, rock and ball. How you doing? What's up, man?  Talking about how government works for all of that. Well, the scumbags and sleazy scum. Oh, it's going to go.  It's going to go. It's going to go down, man. It's just beginning. He was saying like, he was saying that the Democrats and the Republicans won't allow any third party candidates or or any other candidates that can get on a ballot because they don't want to lose their control and power. And and and years ago, they used to have 30 third party people at the on the debates on television because the legal women voters were in charge of that. Now they're not. So they sabotage anybody else for being on a ballot. Hmm. So let's say Paul Mantia, Paul Anthony Mantia, became so mega popular that you're able to get on the ballot as an independent. Let's just say that. No, thank you.  So anyway, anyway, regardless of that, I really enjoy your newest, your new your new artistic creations. They they really aside from selling them as clothing, they should really be in an art gallery. I just built something. Not good. Not good. You mean you still die? No, hell no, man. I spilled milk. You mean milk isn't real milk or or. Yeah, man. Fuck.  So you can't probably go. No, I'm the. Oh, man. Oh, your truth. Oh, man. I was having seizures and then the doctors put around four different four or five different medications. Nothing works.  And and she's cured. She hasn't had a seizure since where you just had him on the show. Yeah. Yeah, that was recent. It's still a little more left, but his wife has cured the medical doctors couldn't help her. Where do you go? I've seen you up. No, he's he's it's well it's pre-recorded.  But you want to see the rest? I thought you had him on the show. Oh, you kidding me?  I'll be going viral. Yeah, man. The young Turks.  I know they took they took his show off the air conspiracy theory. The government made the network true TV. And they pulled them off of YouTube. He went to YouTube with all those episodes. I pulled the right off. Yeah, you were talking about the concentration camps. But yeah, yeah, the FEMA the FEMA games. Yeah, remember that episode? The FEMA camps. Yeah, like in the 20, I saw it like in 2014 or something with the barbed wire around it. Yeah, and talk to my wife for a minute. I have to take care of the caskets. They had these like plastic opens and then all of a sudden yeah next day it was done. And then Georgia where they had funeral caskets. Yeah, with the Georgia. I don't know if it was in Atlanta or something, but it was in Georgia. And when I seen that, I was like, Oh my God, is that really going to happen to us? And then when COVID happened, I just remembered that show and I was like, Holy shoot. You know, like it was the government controlling the weather. He did show about that. He did show about 9 11 being an inside job. Yeah, he did one of those. He did a lot of them. We, you talk about secret societies and they actually filmed Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton going to a Bilderberg meeting, a secret society meeting. Yeah, and they were going in there and that's not good.   And then now they're going to take TikTok off. So we were not going to hear anything that's real. Yeah, but what are all the people that are making a ton of money on TikTok? They're going to be pissed. Yeah, they're going to be pissed. But yeah, I've been watching a lot of Area 51 shows. I find that fascinating. Area 52, Area 51. Those are good. He made a big mess for me. Paul was laughing when he saw me. This is just a replica of the Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western hat. That's a nice hat. Thank you. Yeah, it's like the one he wore like when he made those movies. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, I got a black leather one too. Not this, but a difference, a little bit different. So Paul, you were cleaning up the mess.  Are you going to have like an action figure with your hair like that? I don't know about coming a mega celebrity at 50 years old, man. Mega? Well, yeah. I really don't care about fame and celebrity. Honestly, you've got to think of things like this. Look what's going on to older celebrities now. Look what's happening to the celebrity world. I don't mean entertainment. I don't mean as far as music industry. I'm talking about the things you do now. And the stuff you put out, the videos you put out there, you go live, and your product line. I mean, it's getting more artistic every time I see your photos and your videos. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean. We're working on one now. It's getting more and more and more artistic. That's a painting. I didn't know you paint. That's oil. That's oil on campus, right? Yeah. Now, I meant your abstract creations on your clothes. Your tie-dyeing is becoming more artistic. Yeah, I had Jason Cleveland on before for two hours. Now I got rock and pull. You never know. You never know what's going to happen on these shows. Let me check out this stuff here. Oh, wow. That looks like a roller coaster at Coney Island. Art Gallery. Art Gallery of the Magnificent Mantia. The Magnificent Mantia. The Magnificent. You like that? The Magnificent Mantia is 21st century futuristic art gallery fashion show of the future. Oh, yeah. The Magnificent Mantia. Oh, look at that. It's a UFO. Who is that? Oh, no. That's a lamb. I thought that was an alien visitor tomorrow. I think tomorrow I'll have organic spaghetti with white clam sauce. I think that's what I'm going to have tomorrow for dinner. I have a couple croissants in there that I'm going to chomp down on. Yeah. Hey, Oreo. Hey, you. Oreo. Look at the sad sack. Look on your face. Oh, you got depression. You got depression. You got anxiety. Oreo, say hi. Oreo is a sea dog. She's a salty dog. Let's see what Oreo do for a treat. She loves the ocean. How are we going to do this? Let's see. We've got to be home this way because I don't have her eyes are bugging out. She knows something's going on. Oh, she knows, man. She knows. She probably smells it. She already. You're going to have a snack. But she got a blanket wrapped around her. Blanky. That's her blanky. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want nothing yet. She she wants it. So come here. Sit. Sit, sit, sit. You see, you know what I have, right? Okay. So let's see. We're going to play that game first. Let's see. We're going to play this game. We're playing this game. Okay. Ready, Oreo? Push hands it in. Oh, she sees how she knows, man. She can smell them out of the way. Come on. Sit, sit, sit. Let's see. We're going to see. She's on the bed. So it's hard for her. So no. Now, I don't want that. Give me five. I don't know what else to make her do, but it's because it's hard for her to lift up on the bed. But whatever, whatever, whatever, it looks like she, she got rehabilitated from since you had her. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What do you want? What are you looking for? What are you looking for? I mean, look at the size of, well, this bone was huge, man. This thing was like this. She chewed it down. You want this? How bad you want it? Hey, watch. You see, see how, how gentle she is? When you, when you got her to bone, when you got her to bone, was it one of those smoked beef thighs? She got it from her. It was something huge, man. Mammoth. Mammoth. It was a, it was a woolly mammoth thigh bone. And then, and when she saw it, did she like go for it like ravenous? No, she didn't like it at first, but then like when the top came off, because it had like a round thing on top of it. Yeah. That she ate that first, and then the rest of it, she was going crazy for. Yeah, I see them in the supermarket all the time, all different parts of the animal. And I think they got smoked them and put flavoring on them. Yeah. She's happy now. She got her treats. Spoiled brat. She is spoiled, man. Yeah, she's got a blankie. Yeah, she says she's saying thank you now. That's the way she says thank you. When she sees that super intent, does she show her teeth like snarl at them? Uh-oh, she's getting crazy now. All right, all right, all right, all right. See, this is a choice. Heidi O. My name is Mr. Hankey. Heidi O. Remember, Mr. Hankey was getting sick because all the people from California moved to South Park and they were eating couscous and high fiber, and they were shitting, they were shitting too much into the sewer. And yeah, we had to come to the surface and they had to put them in a cooler so it wouldn't melt, you know.  Donald Trump indicted today.  It's dumb. You're going to make it more famous than ever before. And you know what? Look, they allow people, stab people in New York, okay? And the next day, they're out of jail, okay?  And what about all the UFO sightings are getting worse? They're getting like tons of them more.   And when the weather gets mild, I'm going to go down to the Hudson River, sit on a park bench with my binoculars, and then if I see something, if it comes in closer, then I'll have my Sony, my phone. How old are you, James? Not, you know, are you up there, man? Yeah, August 1st, I'll be 65. That's not bad.  I mean, in the morning, three o'clock in the afternoon, and how many times have you seen the sun out in the middle of the night, like 3 a.m.? We have it on video though, I mean live footage. That's weird. You know, people say it's normal to see the moon in the daytime. No, it's not, man.  A couple times or a few times, I actually saw the moon in the daytime, but of course it's not, you know, it's not like it is at night, but you can see that it's there. Of course, it's got to be there, even in the daytime. You know, but as far as the sun. But you know, the thing is, you're noticing the moon in the daylight more though. You know, back then, I mean, why didn't we notice it back then? You weren't paying attention. It's not bad. You would notice the moon out in the daytime. I don't care, man. Why does the moon, why does the moon in October hang really low and it becomes very like orangey-yellow? I always wonder what that was. Man, you know what? You're going to find out things soon, man. The whole world is, you're going to be like. The blood moon.  You know, what makes people want to be believe what NASA has to say to government. Why would you believe these people? You know, have you experienced these things yourself?  You know, ET phone home. Oh, excuse me. Sorry. You mean like people doctoring video and. Yeah, man. They definitely listen.  We never went to the moon. We never went to the moon. I want to show you. I want to show you my new. Space doesn't exist. We live in a dome. We cannot leave Earth. You can't. All right. Let me show you. Don't you think? But real quick, don't you think if we could leave Earth? Don't you think we could have fought? We all would have left already? Come on, man. Shit. Okay. My brother-in-law gave me a prehistoric, fossilized megalodon tooth.  You know, like the shark that's as big as the school bus? Yeah, man. I know what you're talking about. Shit. Nice. Look at how big this. This is only one tooth. Wow, man. You should make it a necklace. With a necklace. You mean like the Hawaiians? Like. Yeah. Is that a real tooth? I wouldn't put a hole in this. If it, you know, priestess fossilized it. So this is pretty cool. And I can feel. That's a real tooth. That's a real tooth, James. Yeah. I could feel that you can see it. It's serrated on both sides, like the shark, they're serrated. Like you can even see.  You can even see that it's serrated. I mean, that's one tooth. That might be the smallest one. Yeah. You know how many teeth the sharks have in their mouth? I mean, this is only one. Oh, man.  There's a lot of undiscovered things. You know, the permafrost in Siberia is melting, right? The permafrost, that's why they're finding like woolly mammoths, perfectly preserved mammoths and all kinds of prehistoric creatures with the flesh. That's why they're trying to clone them to bring them back. Yeah. The woolly mammoths, they're going to use an Asian elephant, a female Asian elephant, to bring that back.  There was a parrot called the Carolina parakeet. It was a beautiful bird. I saw pictures of them.  Wow. Yeah. Crazy, man. You know, these antacids, if you have heartburn, they're calcium supplements. They're like these two tablets. It's like 1500 milligrams of calcium. Wow. Yeah. That's it. That's the only ingredient. I mean, the active ingredient. They're calcium. Wow. So how long are you going to be on this show tonight? Yeah, I'm going to probably close up. Yeah, because I'm going to get going. I'm not going to be on too long tonight. Yeah, it's getting late. I stopped in to say hi and bye. Thank you. You got the cowboy hat on. Billy Bob, Dorton there. Yeah, I got the black leather one. It's nice. Yeah, if it's like another time, what time do you usually come home on Sundays? I'm home Sunday. Because Sundays, Sundays is a, I don't do any serious topic. It's all like whatever. Everything. Yeah, okay. It's all whatever, like Minestrone soup. And you joke around, we have more people on. Then if you want to show your tie dye, you won't be sleepy because it'll be afternoon, mid-afternoon, or late afternoon. All right, Chief, have a good night. You too, man. All right, take care. All right, I'm going to end the show. All right. Okay, I just want to thank everybody for stopping by and joining us for progressive discussions. I thought it went well. On the Thursday time slot. And I just want to thank everyone collectively for being a part. I want to thank Rock and Paul, Paul Anthony Manthia, performing artists. So I want to thank Jason Cleveland, Mike Coles, everyone. All right. Bye-bye. Sunday. 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