Hello everyone, I'm James Milan and this is the ABCs of LGBTQ Plus, our series that looks at a lot of the most essential aspects of life in and for the LGBTQ Plus community. Today I am joined by Carmen Paulino and Tracy McKay and I'm going to ask the two of you, first of all, thanks for being here obviously, but I want to ask you to just introduce yourselves please. Well I'll start out, thanks for having us, thanks for doing this series, it's wonderful. Again, my name is Tracy McKay, I use she, her pronouns and I am the program manager for Greater Boston PFLAG and I am also the mom of three children, two of whom are transgender. And Carmen. Hi, my name is Carmen Paulino and I use pronouns she and hers. James, thank you for having us. I am also a parent of five children, three who identify as transgender and two who are my foster children. All right, well I think you out there in the audience I think understand why we would have invited and then Tracy and Carmen to join us for this conversation which is essentially about how families can support particularly children but any members of the family really, how that family unit can be a source of support for those who are within self-identifying within the LGBTQ plus community. So to begin with, you know, it may seem obvious to some people but I'd love to just have you tackle the basic question of why is it so important that a child who is LGBTQ be supported within the home? Sure, well as you said it does seem that it should be very obvious, right? We all want to support our kids but particularly when you think about LGBTQ youth what we know is that they are much higher risk for anxiety, depression, suicidality but what we also know and the good news is that when families are supportive and affirming those numbers change dramatically. I think of one particular report by the Trevor Project that was done I believe in 2018 that said that kids who were supported by just one even one accepting adult were 40% less likely to be suicidal so it's certainly very important for their long-term mental health and for your relationship to be supporting when they do come out to you. And while you know you guys are not necessarily social scientists or anything I'm not asking for very you know specific data about this but in general from what you understand you know what is the kind of proportion or percentage of children who have to deal with unsupportive environments from the adults around them versus those who are you know can count on at least one of those adults being supportive. Yeah I don't know I don't know that I know the statistics on that Carmen is that something? Yeah and again not I understand statistics you know are not necessarily you know readily at hand but just kind of your sense of you know is in general or most of the kids in this situation in relatively supportive environments or not. So my experience has been that the answer to that is now there's a lot of children who don't have affirming homes and affirming families and that's one of the reasons why it's so important that a child has at least that one person in at home at school or throughout their local communities. Children have proven that they are very successful and can live productive and happy lives when they do have that in their lives. And you know to start to start to dig into the nitty-gritty a little bit more here both of you have transgender children and I'm wondering at what point or how how did the coming out process around that happen for your I know you each have multiple children so the stories might be different with different ones but just give us a sense of how of how that happened. Did it come from your child? Did it come from you recognizing something? How did that go? I can take the lead on that question right now. So my son Ashton came out as transgender when he was 12 years old and in the seventh grade and he came out to me. I believe that he also in the same week shared that with a gym teacher who is also part of the LGBT community in his school I can say that you know my biggest my biggest expectation for myself was that I told him repeatedly that I love them that I accept them for who he is that we were in this together and that nothing changes who he is as my child who I love very much and on an side note to that I also have two other children who are transgender and they are both foster children and they've been with us for a year and what I have learned as a foster parent is that when my kids walk into my home and I say that specifically because I specialize in transgender youth in the foster care 50% of my battle is out the door by me making them feel firm welcome in my home and using proper pronouns so that has been my experience per se and what I could say is that though you're supportive at home you know there's other factors that you have to consider you know school friends family members church community right so when my son came out he had a lot of heaviness on his chest and the sense that yes I was loving and supportive at home but he needed to figure out how he was gonna navigate all the other communities and his longtime friends and all of that and that could be very stressful for a child and we are lucky enough to have a supportive community and loving family members who are very accepting but that's not the case for a lot of children which is one of the reasons why you know I opened my home to children in foster care yeah and I do want to to hear also obviously what what what your experience has been Tracy but just to follow up for a second comment on what you were saying I'm not sure if people are aware that of course trans children are being are in the foster care system just as much you know as they are represented in the larger population I'm sure and I would imagine that that is you know that that compounds the difficulty a lot of the time for that child in navigating the foster care system is that who knows how much attention is being paid to identifying parents such as yourself who create the right kinds of environment in those homes do you have it you were saying that you have kind of specialized is I think the way that you put it how did that even happen was with somebody did somebody seek you out looking for a supportive environment for for trans foster children or did you present yourself how did that happen so I would share that our journey was not always a smooth one our path you know we're finally in that place where you know we have built community and we are aware resources and we're very much involved but in the beginning as a family as we tried to navigate things it was hard especially in living in a community of color right where still there's a lot of bias and a lot of education needs to happen around being transgender and I just learned that it was a very difficult thing to navigate and I learned that there was a lot of homeless youth a lot of youth of color also for various reasons right where they come from religious beliefs community believes and it was very difficult for a lot of families to come to peace with that and understand so to me as I supported my son through his transition it was very important that I educated my community that I was able to portray a mother's love for their child unconditionally and the fact that that is our responsibility as parents is to love and accept our children no matter their gender no man no matter their sexuality and that every child can be successful every child can be brought to be a good person if they have a loving environment so I did research and I connected with a foster care agency that is a therapeutic agency and I told them that I specifically wanted to foster transgender youth because not only it wasn't important to me to foster love and attention and you know the medical and mental health support that that child needs to be successful but I wanted to be able to connect with families with their families to you know help them and meet them where they're at because that's super important to me parents where there are and validate all those feelings and all those fears because they're very real I you know I've always been concerned and I continue to be concerned for the safety of my child but I know that he's going to be a healthier and happier adult with my love and my support so I wanted to be able to connect with those families as they work through reunification and educate them and just you know listen and let them know that they're not alone and that they certainly don't have to do this alone that we can do this together well you I gotta say it sounds like you are quite the reason the resource perhaps even a treasure as far as those families and those children are concerned so that's a that's a wonderful perspective to to hear and Tracy though I also would be interested to hear what has happened in your home sure and I just want to reiterate that you know Carmen's work is even or her mission or commitment is even more important because LGBTQ youth are actually over highly over represented in the foster care system because of family rejection so there much it's a much higher pop percentage of the foster care population so so for myself my oldest child came out in a kind of roundabout way she was about 17 or 16 or 17 and you know it wasn't really clear what was going on it took a while to get to the point where she was able to understand herself and and come out to us and say you know that I'm trans and this is this is what it is so during the point where we were working with working through this with her and again like Carmen you know my first instinct was you know no matter what is going on I love you and I support you and we will do whatever you need to do it was surprising neither of my kids gave me any indication that this is where we were headed when they were younger but so it's surprising and I had to do a lot of education but you know the first thing I wanted her to know was that we were my husband and I were behind her so as we were working this out with her and we hadn't really shared anything with anybody because she wasn't ready for that my youngest youngest child who was 11 at the time she was much more clear-cut she let me know she came out to me one day and said you know I'll never forget her she wrote it down I'm having questions about my gender so neither of them knew about the other which is kind of wild yeah neither of them knew about the other so there was this time period that where my husband and I were supporting both of them and holding kind of all of this without anyone else knowing but that's that's that's that's just kind of in you know intriguing is a weird word to use but it was it was it because you were respecting each of your child's you were respecting their desires in terms of keep holding it just just among you not even sharing it with with the other child exactly and I think that that's one of that you know one of the important point is that you know you have to respect your child's desire for and need for privacy within the family which I think is a really important yes even within the family they neither of them the right-of-way were ready for us to share that with with their siblings or with you know the larger family so we wouldn't and like I said my husband and I kind of held that all and waited until they were ready and when you know my older daughter was ready first and then she told their you know our immediate family and then kind of went out from there and then when my youngest child was ready then she was able to do that as well but we felt it was really important you know I think for any child that comes out to you I think it's really important to let them lead the way it has to be their process and some kids I think are ready to you know they've been thinking about this for a long long time many of them many of them thinking about it for a long time and as a parent it's hard because you're just hearing about it but they've been thinking about it for a while and are ready to go so I'm sorry would you say that that holds true that you really need to have have the child lead the process irrespective of the age of their age absolutely absolutely I mean that you know you need to be discussions about you know who they want to tell and how they want to tell them and when they're ready so I think that that goes true whether it's parents whether it's schools I do a lot of trainings at schools and and we have to tell teachers that if a child comes out to you and they're not ready to tell other people you have to be the one to hold that you can't you know out that child to other people it has to be it's led by the child so I would say yes regardless of the age that child is needs to be in control of that information well let me ask both of you a question that's kind of about strategy in a sense by which so let me be clear both of you have indicated what your what your initial reactions were when you first heard from your children about this and in both of your cases what you said to them is what you felt in your hearts which is and feel and feel which is nothing that none nothing that you tell me is going to change the fact that I love you unconditionally etc so my question is in terms of strategies for a parent who doesn't feel that way when they hear that would you counsel that it is still best to give that message as the initial message or what how about it if you know what would you say to parents who don't don't have that reaction James I would I would think that it is important for the parent to validate their own feelings that doesn't mean that you can be supportive and loving I think that my my recommendation would be to acknowledge that you heard what the message was hey this is who I am mom or dad and for you to say thank you for letting me know mm-hmm like it doesn't have to be a big conversation you know I think that that that child just needs some time to take a deep breath at that moment anyways and just feel good that it's out there that they were able to say it and if you're having a difficult time processing if you don't know if this is something that you understand or you even believe in I think that as a parent my recommendation to you would be to acknowledge to acknowledge and and remind your child that you love them in that moment you don't have to have a huge conversation about what the next steps are or anything like that your child will let you know when that time is and when the next step is you know so I would say be true to yourself take a deep breath you know and just reassure your child that you heard that you know you're not ignoring and I think that taking things one step at a time is the best approach and like that like you can have meaningful conversations right you don't have to be reactive and think exactly you know what we have to say you know what we have to do but you can you can use words or phrases as tell me more mm-hmm you know what does this mean educate yourself go on Google you know I did that I had to do that I still have to do that this is a journey for a parent as well as for your child I don't have all the answers so I don't expect any parent to have all the answers and I think that your children will appreciate if you tell them just that that you don't have all the answers but that you're willing to learn and you're willing to educate yourself and to hear them out I think that that that is the best thing that you can do for yourself so that you can keep it honest with yourself and feel good about the process and what you're doing as well as showing your love and support for your child yeah I think it's important to be genuine I think kids know when you're not being genuine so to really in that moment think of something that is true and for most parents that is I love you and I want the best for you and you know you may have all kinds of fears in your head you probably do about what this means you know you want your best for your child and you're not sure that you know you can have that with this new information but just finding that that true piece that's in there that I support you and I love you and then it's come and said take a breath and you know kind of process that one of the things that I think is so important for parents that whether you're struggling with it because of you know religious reasons political regions cultural reasons or whether it's just new information it's so important to you know you have these feelings of maybe fear and confusion and what have you it's so important to deal with those feelings outside of your interactions with your child right those of those feelings are absolutely appropriate and valid but that's not something that you want to work out with your child your child's got your own stuff going on you know there's support groups there of this friend it's important to acknowledge those and find a place to work those out but not do that with your child um you both have addressed this already to some degree but I wanted to ask what in your minds and in your experience what does active support for a child again after especially after the initial stages of first hearing and then processing and beginning to put things in place what does active support for a child look like what are the components that are that are vital to that as you know the the weeks become months become years and you know again assuming that your child is still within your home and where you're still part of the main support system for him or her I think that that you know that that we're active is really important because while it while the first your first day has to be I love you and I support you like if it ends there then that's that's not enough right so things like making sure you use the new name and pronoun asking your child like what do you need for a transgender child that may mean you know taking them shopping for new clothes those are some things connecting them with other folks in the community whether it's finding a transgender mentor an LGBTQ mentor for your child an adult or you know support groups like seeking out those resources for your child and and being a child's advocate whether that is that the doctor's office school in a religious community really being out there as an advocate for your child I'm demanding that respect for your child or all ways to really actively show your support I'm sure Carmen you've got some more yeah and you know James I would add to that that what active looks like in different communities right I think that when we're more American lies we're more open to counseling we're more opening we're more open to you know reaching out to different communities like our church if we think that that's a support system but sometimes culturally that's not just what we're taught to do you know and when that happens I would say you know ask your child so you know what is the next step and some people know about pronouns some people know about preferred names no one in my family or culture had ever even heard of that okay so they're like what do you mean pronoun what do you mean a name you know so it's having those conversations with your child if you're informed enough to know which is why you know doing some research after your child comes out it gives you some time to educate yourself around proper pronouns what pronouns are and knowing that you don't need to know what they are asked you know and then they will tell you what they are and you can ask questions I say they are you know depending obviously underage they will give you the the the the answer that you might be looking for when appropriate and what I mean by that is you know just making sure that we're being sensitive to their age and also their development and where they are at right learning and educating ourselves that transitioning looks different for everyone and it's it's it's very unique why you know there's medical interventions why it's important to see a doctor that specializes it doesn't mean that you know your child is gonna have top or bottom surgery or anything like that it just means that there's a healthcare provider that is going to meet the needs of that child that that child and that parents gonna feel comfortable in that setting with that provider who is welcoming and really that's all that means now there's a whole bunch of other stuff that you'll get there when you're there and you can ask questions doesn't mean that that's the way you're gonna go and I talk to you like that because that's how I've had meaningful conversations with a lot of parents you know who are really for the first time learning the difference or understanding that the difference between gender and sexuality are two different things and why we you know the medical field is so important in the trans community it's you know because if your son is a transgender male who identifies as male he still needs to see a provider as he gets older he's gonna need a breast exam he's gonna need a pap smear and to feel firm and feel supportive in at your medical provider that is huge so you know I just wanted to expand on that because it does look different for different communities and how hard is it you know we were talking earlier about the fact that you have offered yourself within the foster care system as somebody who is going to who knows something about this is has the right kind of mental and spiritual approach to this to create the healthiest environment possible well so how hard is it to find you know people within the medical establishment who offer the same kind of reassurance is you know is is that easy or hard it's hard I mean that we are I would say in this area we are lucky there is some great providers which is wonderful but I think on the whole particularly if you're looking at you know beyond this area it's very difficult to find pediatricians who are well birthed particularly with the trans with issues that trans folks base we know one of the things that you know systems are hard in in hospitals like we are forever going into hospital even after you've changed legal names and gender markers we're still we know we get those ID bracelets with the wrong name and the wrong idea so it's not just medical providers it's the whole you know the whole medical system is not really caught up to to what the issues that the particularly the trans but also the LGBTQ in general base and again I think we're lucky in this area there's lots of great providers that that we can look to but overall I think it is difficult and going back to something that Tracy shared earlier is this is why it's so important and key that you are your child's advocate because like Tracy said we do have wonderful providers in the Boston area and we've been I've been very blessed with that but still when I go to a walk-in clinic or I go to the hospital I run into a lot of complications when it comes to you know how they they adapt right to to whatever you're telling them though they're seeing something different so when possible which I still do for all of my kids is I call in advance I ask for a conference call with a doctor that is the first time they're gonna meet my child I also do research on you know if you're looking for a new primary care doctor are they LGBTQ friendly most website and hospitals now have that and have people who actually specialize but it's it's being your child's advocate and calling in advance and saying hey I understand that the insurance especially you know with my children who come into foster care in the beginning most of none of these things have ever been done for them so it's all new so I call in advance and I remind that receptionist make sure you grab a sticky note and write the preferred name so that when you call my child in the waiting room you're using proper pronouns and proper name preferred name and you know that goes for a new school that goes for everything where I am you know sending my child to I as the parent I have to be that advocate and do everything you can to try to take some of that responsibility off their shoulder and do it for them and and find and identify who your allies are in those places right away right so when you make a phone call you can speak to that person again I gotta say a couple more things and then we'll be done this has been a wonderful conversation I have to say I am delighted I get to talk to a lot of people through the work that we do here at ACMI and have talked to lots and lots of people in the last three to six weeks because everybody is home anybody watching can tell you know the context under which we are conducting this interview which is of course we are still all of us in our homes and in dealing with the pandemic as best we can what I was going to say is delighted to get 40 minutes into or however far into this conversation we are without even bringing it up first time but let me ask is there anything that's specific to this time that has made life either easier which I doubt or harder for you your families and the LGBTQ plus community as you know it yeah I mean I think it's a difficult for it if you think about the wider LGBTQ community some things that have been really difficult during this pandemic is there's kids or yeah I guess particularly youth that are now forced to be home with maybe unsupportive caregivers kids who are only maybe able to be out at school who no longer have that opportunity kids LGBTQ youth who have the support services a lot of them are meeting online now which is great so but the loss of those supports and I also really feel for whether youth or adults who have scheduled things like gender affirming surgery who had them all postponed and those sometimes are scheduled a year or more in advance and so there's that huge uncertainty about whether those when those will be rescheduled and all of those lead to you know increase of anxiety depression in an already very vulnerable population yeah it's interesting you know the whole idea of elective procedures right you know they are elective procedures as far as the medical establishments concerned they are hardly elective procedures as far as a lot of the people awaiting them yeah yeah they are definitely not elective procedures and that's something that's going to need to change over time that realization that this is a gender affirming surgery is a necessary medical intervention so you know I again my heart breaks for people who have been waiting hanging on to get to those and doing a lot to get to those those surgeries only to now have them postponed so those are just a few things there's there's a whole laundry list of why this is difficult on many marginalized communities but but you know the LGBTQ community for sure so I've got one last question I wanted to ask you well one last area and that is our focus in this conversation has rightly been on the welfare of the children that we were talking about both the children in your homes your children and others similarly situated understandably so I'm I'm I'm curious though about the effect on you as parents and specifically not just around needing to protect and and support your child in different kinds of context and introducing him or her or them to different you know to two different folks and institutions etc but how about for you and by that what I mean is how how what are the difficult conversations or interactions you have to have with perhaps friends or neighbors or I don't know other people in the community how does it go you know what what are the things that you would say to parents just in dealing with their lives you know as parents of transgender youths well I guess I'd say a couple of things I'm sorry you go I cut you off no it's okay you know there's a there's a couple of things first of all as I mentioned before I think it's really important you know there's so many feelings that you have that are separate from your love and support for your child so you know for some people it is fear of what that means for your child for some people it is kind of a feeling of loss for not that you're losing your child but you're losing kind of what you might have envisioned for them for the future you're having to pivot what that looks like so it's really important for you to get support for yourself again whether it's support groups therapist friends so that's really important but in terms of the conversations that you have it really you know it depends I have some we've had some conversations that are quite easy and people are you know people maybe they ask a few questions but they're definitely you know on board and then we have had some people that you know not so much and those folks really they don't get it or they ask you know really you know I'm sure Carmen you will have this too I you know I have some people that just ask like wildly inappropriate conversation inappropriate questions about you know what kind of surgery my kids may or may not have what things you know what's under their clothes I mean just really you know bizarre and inappropriate questions very intrusive and you know I guess that people are curious and maybe it comes from a place of wanting to support but very intrusive so you know there are some some conversations that are easy some that are hard and you know our bottom line was you know we would talk with try to get everybody on board but if people they weren't on board that was fine but they weren't going to be on board with us and we were very fortunate that our you know our family for sure I mean you know most of our friends were really very supportive after some you know you have to educate them just like you educate yourself so you know it depends on the person and the other the other thing I would say for parents is really there's no one way to do this you know I had a variety of ways that I would tell people some people I would tell face to face some people I wrote a letter some people I wrote an email some people I just put it in a Christmas card so I you know I think to just to do what feels right for you and to know that there's just not one way to handle the situation yes for sure I agree with everything Tracy said I would also just say to parents allow yourself to be to feel whatever that is I mean it's so important to acknowledge that this is not easy for parents not because we don't love our children but because we do love them because we want what's best for them and it has nothing to do with who they are being wrong or not okay it has to do with the fact that we live in a world that is not ready obviously right and those are the fears and allow yourself to be allow yourself to have emotions it's okay to cry in the shower you know like I still do it sometimes sometimes I don't even know why but that is good that is you know taking care of yourself and knowing where you are at times and knowing that this is not easy but that your child is better because of you right and the other piece would be around having conversations with people don't feel that you owe anybody an explanation you know know that this is your child your life your home and our job is to protect our children and I've had to in a very kind way say you know I respect your point of view I'm not comfortable having this conversation or I'm not having this conversation and you know some of those are harder than others because it can be with a grandparent right or it could be with your church minister I don't know right so there's a lot of decisions that goes into this but allow yourself to be speak your truth right and know that you're doing the right thing follow your heart we've covered a lot of ground today and and really powerfully I very much appreciate you guys being here I wanted to ask you as as we wrap up and just kind of issue an open invitation to you to share one more lesson learned some hint that you might have for others something that we haven't mentioned yet that you want to make sure is out there so in whichever order you'd like if there's something to add please please feel I mean we've talked about a lot of what I would want parents know but I guess the one thing just for parents or grandparents or whatever just to just to know and remember that you know your child is the same child that you loved and protected and cared about and all the things that you enjoyed about them is the same I remember when my oldest I was talking with wrote a letter to my mom when she came out to her and she said to her Grammy remember you know think about if you have a phone that you really love it's a lot of great features that has all your favorite photos on it but then you just get a new case and it looks different but it's still the same phone that you always love and I always remember that because it's true they're the same you know you know this new fact about them but that doesn't change what you know and love and appreciate about them from before they told you and for me what I would say is you're not alone right you don't have to do this alone allow yourself to let people in your life who want to be there and there is community right like I felt very alone in the beginning of our journey and you will lose people but you will gain a lot of people great people that you know will be there through you to hold your hand to cry with you to celebrate there's a lot of celebration in this as well so my biggest message would be is that there's there is people out there there is community and there's always room and I welcome that I welcome I'm always open to have a conversation with parents and stuff like that because I remember my first p-flat meeting walking in there and being scared and not knowing what to expect and thinking about it in the parking lot right and if it's not a meeting just reaching out to one person and and we can do this together and I just realized that I have something to throw in myself which is a reminder to folks who've been who who've been watching that and I'm just gonna assume you guys are gonna agree with me on this that though we have been focused because of the specific experiences that you guys have on the t part of lgbtq today on the trans population I am sure that all of the wisdom shared here today is equally applicable to other members of that community and people in other situations within that spectrum so with that point of clarification I want to thank you guys again I've been talking to Codman Paulino and to Tracy McKay this has been the ABCs of lgbtq plus I'm James Milan thanks so much for joining us


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You're welcome back and we're now being joined by public affairs analysts at 2K today to discuss the PVC collection controversies. Mr. Chouday. Thank you very good evening to you that's right it's quite some time. So you've listened to some of the respondents who have spoken about PVC collection and the crisis they are being faced with. Now this looks to me like many will be disenfranchised in this forthcoming elections in February. What's your take? Well you know there is so different schools for different people. These are people that are the receiving end of whatever it is that is not allowing them to collect their cards. I do think they are not happy. But one must praise them for their resilience. You can see some of them have explained that they have been there a few three four times and they are still going there regardless of the strong thoughts. And so one must say good days to them for the access of the duty and the trotism and responsibility. But again just as they are complaining there are others who have had their better experiences with iNec. I think at the initial stage when they dis-executed it was quite difficult and then some of us also had to escalate the matter to iNec offices. And they have lost some visible you know improvement in many locations. But previously some are still going through all manners of stress.  It's obvious that there are still so many people before this exercise started iNec had already told us that about nine million people had been registered. So you're looking at nine million people either trying to collect the prejudices apart from other people who have registered long before now who are also trying to collect their prejudices. And that was why we realized the possibility that a lot of people would be disenfranchised through various fora and platforms started calling on iNec to extend the registration which we have also done to the 29th of general rule and belong to the majority satisfaction rule. And having looked at the rate of collection so far and this is improvement again you are also saying that iNec should be able to stretch this again to at least February 3rd. And just like one of the you know the interviewees you know also said perhaps the closing time of three o'clock might have to be extended to around five o'clock on the daily basis obviously. Otherwise a lot of people in this case not looking at going to be disenfranchised. So iNec has to be much more yes they have been paused on the process and there's no doubt about that. But the people that your crew have been interviewing and real people too have also who are also experiencing real situations of not collecting their prejudices. So you cannot dismiss you know their complaints with a raise on the hand which is real. But a lot of them are finding very difficult to collect prejudices. Okay so an official of iNec recently made a statement and he said that there have been reports of iNec staff denying some members of the public their prejudices on grounds of ethnicity and that iNec was going to look into that. With happenings now wouldn't it look as say this report is real even though it came from an iNec official? No the fact that it came from an iNec official is very pivotal is very you know important. And because all these white people have been you know calling it a conspiracy theory that there was no truth. Obviously iNec has done a good diligence for iNec to acknowledge that this is happening. Is i think one it is supposed to iNec the fact that they are able to acknowledge this. But then again they have said they are going to look into that. I think not too long ago i think there was this consistent or persistent complaint about one of the iNec officers somewhere not caught up. And i think a few days ago so we were told that the woman who was in charge of that process had been removed and replaced. And then the people who had gone there to who went there subsequently to collect their prejudices came out smiling that things are beginning to change. So obviously these things are going on. You know and so what it means is that there are wrong elements within the iNec that are causing you know problems. These are unpatriotic people that are working for iNec and they're very dangerous people because they are uh uh standing in the way of the democratic process and will be showing the door out you know of iNec. Obviously, obviously they are working at the behest of some politicians and i also think that some of these investigations will even go beyond even identifying these people and then also pointing fingers at the politicians you know and that are giving them this instruction to do this uh you know this um you know anti anti-democratic to behave in this anti-democratic manner. So it is something for iNec having identified that this is true and that it's not conspiracy theory. Then iNec now has to you know do the work to show you know the way out to be some surplus element that are trying to give them a bad name. Now looking at the facts iNec has repeatedly said that it is very prepared for this election. One would think that looking at the time frame as well for the collection of the pvc is just a weak added and one day is out of it already. If by the end of the time frame some people do not have their pvc's what do you think would be happening? Yeah obviously those people would have been different sometimes. I don't know what to do with what they can see. I don't see they can begin to go to court because the process should have left them behind be to no thought of theirs. You know so uh i don't know you know people also tend to plead the blame also or plead the blame at the dumpster of the Nigerians that they are very late responders that they don't uh you know start this process on time. We have seen this in the past but one thing i don't see from Nigerians is that at least as far as legacies concerned another part of the country they turn out to be very very good and very very encouraging. You know in many of the you know uh uh uh ethnic communities that we have don't see uh maybe it might not be the same perhaps in other parts of the country but i would say that they have been in a very good response on the part of Nigerians. Now what is going to happen? I would hope that uh ultimately by the time this exercise ends that we will have very good story uh to say to say that virtually everybody that came to iNEC purposes were able to get their cards. That's what i would want to hear by the music. Yes also you know but i don't know how that is going to happen so i think we have to see if you mention this extension of the closing time on a daily basis give it an extra two hours before it gets dark so that by five o'clock the close is about you know uh um three o'clock as is the case now and then to also extend the the deadline for the ending of the collection of previous is by another week you know after twenty-ninth the deadline the recent deadline that i was set by iNEC after that i'm not sure that there's anything in the other percent and the most uncertainty. Hello hope you enjoyed the news please do subscribe to our youtube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates


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So August 2nd came and when I know a lot of us were disappointed not necessarily disappointed, but maybe just Sad that we didn't get that teaser that a lot of us were hoping for but we did get something or start to get some things Shout out to hello Sydney because this is the original source for the information We'll be talking about today Hello Sydney has been doing a conversation with the team of radio silence Matt Benelli open Tyler Gillette and Chavillela They all sat down recently and we're discussing the legacy of screen Screen 5 in general the difficult task that comes along with making the first official trailer and some of the challenges that go with that or the first teaser Talking about some of the unique risk that the film will take or that it will take unique risk going over the official rating that it will get so on and so forth so Just to start off again shout out to hello Sydney and I'll leave a link down to the Down in the description so you guys can look at this video or read this article, but Tyler Gillette started off speaking about the legacy He said with all the screen movies legacy is very front and center and they all built so successfully on one another while also being Totally original on their own right and that was something that from the start We knew was going to be essential in this work and that was a love letter to all the movies and of course to us But also was going to take some of its own unique risks now Just to talk about some of those potential risk They could be taking some of the things that have been juggled around in fans head and my head of like thought of killing off One of the main three a big emotional blow to an already established continuity but again would also help set the stage for the future down the road by Showing you that they are willing to take some risk and what better risk to take than killing off one of the main three As long as it's not Sydney press out of course for a lot of us I think we all can agree on that as long as it's not Sydney press Scott of Some other risks they could take or they could be referring to is the fact that this would be the first screen movie if this is in Fact what we end up getting this could this is the first screen movie That isn't going to be fully just centered on what's happening in the life of Sydney press got it's no longer Just Sydney press got story It's going to be Sydney press got Tara carpenter and Sam carpenter out all now getting their story intertwined with each other Revolving this new ghost face killer and presumably this will have a lot more to do with the carpenters this time around Then the press got and the Roberts dynamic so that could be another risk that they're referring to they also went on to say that they wanted to make a good standalone movie and They wanted to just merge that with the legacy and just create a fresh start So they said a lot of it came from the script where the entry point is accessible to everybody This isn't a movie that you need to have seen 27 other movies to understand But your experience experience will be extremely heightened the more knowledge you have of those previous four and Then he went on to promise that there were a ton of Easter eggs so The my thing about that comment there the just the last bit your experience will be extremely heightened the more knowledge You have of those previous four, so they're gonna do their best to just try to Paint off a fresh start while keeping the original movies canon But still there's gonna be some things that happen in the storyline that could probably benefit you a lot more If you have seen the already established films But it's not necessary to see them because they're probably gonna fill it in with a lot of Exposition-based dialogue for those of you who have not seen the first four films or won't go see the first four films You'll just sit down and watch screen five So it's basically saying it won't be heavily reliant on you needing to go watch the first four movies me personally Just like they said I would still go watch them. So They also go on to say that the screen five will continue another Another tradition that all the screen films have had the self-aware commentary and talk about the current state of horror now This one is a little bit opposite. I guess to the Mixed response that we thought we were gonna have regarding the screen Five film before where it was gonna be less on the social commentary Or just giving the less on poking and making comments on the current state of horror So it's nice to know that they will be keeping up that tradition anyway So the self-referential and making comments on the current state of horror that could be talking about how horror is now just not under this one path of just like Slashers and that's just it horror is now Slashers you're getting a lot more of the psychological stuff Not that the psychological stuff didn't exist back then but back in like the late 70s 80s 90s We know that it was dominated by three big slasher's Michael Jason Freddy but now these days you're getting slasher's mixed in with all the psychological mixed in with the supernatural and again Supernatural and psychological they were a thing back in the day with with other movies like Rosemary's baby and all these other things But that were just in that realm of supernatural and psychological like the blob for instance, but The big dominators were the slasher films So now these days you have just horror getting a lot more mainstream recognition and all of these different sub-genres are being more Appreciated and it's not just slasher slasher slasher You're getting so many different types of different horror movies to to experience So their whole social commentary could be on that it could be on also how All of the that could also lend to maybe why Ghostface could potentially ditch his buck knife at some point during the film Just throwing that out there It could also be them making comments on how a lot of the movies now are retconning They're already established continuity and them just being self aware of the fact that they're not doing that So maybe throwing some jabs playful jabs that being at the Halloween franchise and many other series that have been doing that recently They also went on to talk about the challenge of creating their trailer. They said that's going to be the challenge with the trailer There's a lot in this movie that can be spoiled really easily We're so curious to see how the marketing department is going to thread the needle because it's a very narrow one and that's what Gillette had to say so I Already said what I should think should have been in a first of in a first like teaser It should be something like it should be nothing but headshots of the new characters in the film mixed in with the old characters Showing us like something very dark and gloomy and just something that will set the tone for what we can expect in the film And then all the while you have Roger L Jackson giving a voice over back as Ghostface to announce that he's coming back to haunt the town of Woodsboro Just have Ghostface basically given a commentary over this teaser or you could just do headshots Have have little wording come up on the screen talking about how screen redefine the genre in the late 90s So on and so forth and now the franchise that did that is back They also went on to make comments about the fact that the film will indeed receive a hard R rating That was confirmed by Chad Vilella now that of course hasn't been officially given by the MPAA But they're they're saying that their movie will get a hard R rating not a hard R I'm just saying hard R, but it will be rated R So for anyone who was doubting that they're confident that their movie will get a rated R rating So let me know what you guys think about this down in the comment section below I'll leave a link to the video down in the description for hello sitting and shout out to you for collecting this information They have other exciting things coming out soon this week If you haven't make sure you subscribe turn on post notification miss video in the description I'll leave some social media accounts on Facebook or Instagram. 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