Hey, this is Brett and this 2017 Ford F-250 Crew Cab Short Box King Ranch Lariat Ultimate is stock number 13649Z. I am here at Summit Automotive in Fondlack, Wisconsin, your new and used heavy-duty truck headquarters. This 2017 Ford F-250 has the 6.7 liter power stroke diesel engine. It's paired up with the six-speed automatic transmission. This truck has been fully safe and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. It has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off and it is 100% ready to go. I'm gonna go all the way around in this video inside underneath, start it up, and take a look under the hood to give you the most accurate representation of the vehicle possible. Oxford white over caribou brown metallic is the color and I shoot all my videos in 4k so if you have HD capabilities turn them on now because it is your best way to check out the quality condition options and cleanliness of the vehicle before seeing in person and really a good-looking truck here. Coming down the driver's side, boxes and fantastic condition. Cab and doors are in great shape as well. Front fender is in very nice condition. Paint is very reflective, very shiny, really nice condition for a 17. And if you like the video you can subscribe to my YouTube channel which is youtube.com slash Summit Auto. Click the bell notifications you'll get updates on the videos I do each and every day here at Summit Automotive as well as access to one of the largest catalogs of vehicle walk-arounds on YouTube. So it comes with the fuel painted 20 inch alloy wheels. They're kind of matched to that caribou brown. Chrome on the inside has open country Toyo MT tires. These tires are pretty new I'd say probably 80% of the tread left on them and they're 37 by 12.5 R20 LT's. This one does have the Skyjacker shocks, the extended springs there. Frame and underbody is extremely clean. Give you a good look at that lift there. Has the nice chrome step bars. Has some Bilstein shocks up here. Front bumper is in really nice condition as the factory fog lights, chromed tow hooks, LED headlamps, LED running lights. We'll turn all those on at the end of the video so you can see all those working. You get the caribou brown inserts on the grille as well. And the hood is in really nice condition. I didn't see any major dents or dings on there. Passengers side front fender. Absolutely perfect. And the passengers side front wheel. No major scuffs or scrapes. As you go down this side of this 2017 Ford F-250, take note of how clean that body is, how reflective and mirror like that paint is. I take these HD videos so if you are far away or even if you're close by, you just cannot make the trip down. But you're still interested in purchasing the vehicle. You can see the truck, hear the truck, and have confidence in the vehicle that you're looking at before you even get here. So when you do get here, there's no surprises. And you can make a smart and informed buying decision from wherever you're at. If this video helps you make that buying decision, let your salesman know that you saw the video, that it was helpful, and that Brett sent you. Back wheels in excellent shape as well. And the back tires have just as much tread as the front tires. Looks like it has an aftermarket stabilizer bar in there. Has all the remaining factory exhaust so it hasn't been altered or deleted or anything. Lower rockers, cab corners, frame all look really good on this truck. Has the factory chrome step bars. FX4 off-road suspension package. You get the chrome tipped exhaust. Rear bumper is very nice. No dents or dings in there. Back up parking sensors. Full towing package, which includes receiver H4 pin ends, seven pin wiring. And you get the king ranch tailgate with this chrome-ish applique on there. Looks really good. Has the shock down assist tailgate, spray and bed liner. That's a Ford factory tough bed liner. You get LED bed lights, side box tie downs, seven pin wiring, which makes me think that it probably has the fifth wheel and goose neck prep package. I can get this up. Which it does have the fifth wheel and goose neck prep. It does have that. A couple of little leaves and stuff underneath there, but nothing too bad. Has the tailgate step assist as well. Tailgate shuts nice and solidly. And for full disclosure, this back wheel, excellent condition as well. Once again, down this side, take note of how nice that paint is, clean the body is. Has the factory driver side door code entry. We do have the code for this truck. And if you ever wanted to figure out what your code is for your 17 to 22 super duty in the upper right hand part screen, got a video showing how to do that. Blind spot monitoring in the mirrors, built in directional signals, 360 cam, these mirrors telescope out, power fold in. Inside the king ranch package gives you the brown leather bucket seats in the front. Both these front seats are heated and cooled. No rips or tears on the seats. Really nice condition. Comes with the weather tech floor mats, power pedals, auto headlamps. That's for your LED side lights on the mirrors. Has the power telescopic and tilt steering wheel. That works nicely. Memory driver seat, power windows locks and mirrors. And got to have the accessory on for that to work. You get the nice woodgrain trim on there. Take a quick look at the back seats. They are just as clean as the front seats. No rips or tears back here. It does have the latch, child safety system for any child car seats you may have. Power sliding rear window with the built-in rear to frost. These seats fold up. Get the gooseneck kit right there. Has the factory subwoofer. You get a little storage compartment under here that can lock into place. And this piece can always get in the way. Has the weather tech floor mat back here. You get the factory king ranch floor mats back here as well. Has a 110 volt 400 watt plug-in and heated seat buttons. Child safety locks on the back doors and the inside and bottoms of the doors all look like new. Before we jump in I'll show you the tire and loading information sticker. As well as the VIN sticker. We'll hop inside, check out the miles, the radio, and everything that this truck has to offer on the interior. All right you can see that this one has 20,271 miles on it. You get the digital speedometer on that nice big digital display. Comes with the leather wrapped steering wheel, Bluetooth and audio controls on the right, cruise controls, adaptive cruise controls, and information center controls on the left. This one does have the heated steering wheel as well. You get the sync eight inch radio. Has AM FM and Sirius XM radio capabilities as well as CD player and Bluetooth. You get the factory navigation system as well. And there is highway 41 so that is working nicely. You have your factory exhaust breaks, stability control, downhill assist control, lane departure warning, and your cameras. So there's your 360 camera that also has of course your backup cameras here as well. You get the Sony premium sound system. Down here you have more tactile volume tune and climate controls. Turned out four wheel drive factory brake controller, heated and cooled seat buttons. The other thing with this radio is your different apps on here including Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. And besides the 360 camera that's where your backup camera shows up as well. Down here you get two USBs, you get two cup holders, then you get four cup holders and that's my magic trick for the day. And you also get the ambient lighting in the cup holders, keyless entry, remote start, and power drop down tailgate. You get the King Ranch logo on the center console there. And the 12 volt power point, 110 volt, 400 watt max plug-in, dual glove boxes and the passenger side floor mat and seat are in excellent condition now. I don't think this truck's ever been smoked in, smells very clean inside. And you get the power viscera front, power sunroof, fixed glass second row. You get six auxiliary up-fit switches, home link buttons for your garage door security systems and lighting systems and map lights right there. Also sunshade controls. We'll start it up, take a look under the hood, check out all those LED lights in the front. And before we do that, I wanted to show you the mirrors. They do power fold in nicely and then they power telescope out. I always like showing both sides so that you know that both sides are working properly. All right, now we'll start it up. Starts right up, no check engine lights or anything like that. Well then my door and hood are our jar. There are the LED side lights as well and I would personally like to thank you for checking out the video today and hopefully from this HD video. You've been able to verify the quality condition options and of course, cleanliness of this truck all the way around. Those LED lights are very bright and look great. You get the cab lights up top there as well under the hood. We have these 6.7 liter power stroke diesel engine, engine bay is very clean, runs very smooth. Once again this truck has been fully safe and inspected by our service shop as a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off and this truck is 100% ready to go. There is the emissions sticker and I would highly recommend this truck from a quality and condition standpoint and I think whoever it's going to get it's going to love it. And to see more pictures of this truck or one rather 550 new news cars, trucks, SUVs, minivans, wranglers, halftones, circular tons, one tons you name it, we got to go to that website right there, summitauto.com. Full pictures and descriptions of every single vehicle all at summitauto.com And if you'd like to check out more HD videos, you can go to youtube.com slash summitauto. Click the bell notifications to get updates on the videos I do each and every day here at Summit Automotive as well as one of access to one of the largest catalogs of vehicle walk-arounds on YouTube. 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Hi, everyone. This is Sameer from Intrapid Control Systems. Welcome to this talk about fuzzing can and can be automotive ECUs and networks. Fuzzing, when applied to automotive systems, can make the systems safer and more secure. I hope this presentation helps today. Share some concepts and see what all is on offer for fuzzing automotive ECUs and networks. So this will be my agenda today. I'm going to talk about these four items here today. First, I will briefly discuss what fuzzing is and why fuzzing is already becoming a part of standard verification and testing for OEMs and ECU manufacturers. In the second part of the presentation, we will discuss some of the techniques and methods for can and can of defuzzing. And this should be really interesting for automotive people who are interested in automotive world. Third, I will show how some specific products from Intrapid Control Systems, which I have used, can help you with your can and can of defuzzing needs. These are the tools I have primarily used for developing fuzzing capabilities for OEMs and peer suppliers. So this information will be also pretty useful for people who are interested in these areas. Last, I will discuss the quickest way to get onboarding on can and can of defuzzing for automotive ECU software development lifecycle. This has been a question asked to me in various times in the past that, hey, how can I start? What is fuzzing? What do we want to do? So I'm going to discuss some of those things as the last part of my presentation. Fuzzing concepts and definitions. So fuzzing as defined by OS for open web application the security project is essentially this. That's the definition defined by OS. So basically, idea is to send unusual, malformed, unexpected and error-induced data to the target DUT. Specific to the DUT functionality and performance requirement, a closed loop control can then monitor the DUTs for any anomaly or any problems in the DUT. So fuzzing has been widely used to find security issues and bugs in IT software from actually many, many years. So the concept is not really new. It's application to automotive is interesting. So that's why we kind of like to add for, to define what automotive ECU fuzzing is. So it's a highly recommended last mile test to reveal any possible vulnerabilities in the network with ECUs for CAN and CAN-FD or there is a design step or, you know, for CAN-CAN-FD design strategies or implementation and it performed as part of product design, development and validation cycles. So that's where industry is going in our experiences. This does not necessarily mean that test should only be done at the end of the design or development and validation cycles. Fuzzing essentially is now being considered as part of software development life cycle. And so it is even, you know, a better strategy to include this testing as part of milestone releases of software during the entire cycle. And that is how the importance of, you know, fuzzing is there for an automotive. It's actually well understood fact, you know, we all of us know that it's a fact of cost of fixing a bug exponentially increases if discovered later in the development cycle. In fact, this additional testing may not be a large impact on the cost.  So that's not entirely true. The impact on cost is actually lowest if you're existing tool chains support such testing. And, you know, some of the companies like ours, like Intrapid, we have recognized this pretty early in the game. And this is alongside working alongside with customers. So today, there are readily available tools for CAN and CAN-FD advanced level fuzzing. This means for existing users of such tools, the adaptation is actually easy. And for the new customers, it is something they can try to look into for, you know, for advanced level of fuzzing on CAN and CAN-FD. So let's look at, you know, some of the frequently encountered terms.  You know, this is nothing new, you know, in most of the audience here, I'm sure is very familiar with these terms. But the concepts are important for people who are coming from automotive world, you know, for the things going on in the industry right now.  Vulnerability. So vulnerability is a weakness in a system. So it could be, for example, a result from a design deficiency or an implementation bug. Vulnerability then actually could be exploited to obtain unauthorized access to the system and then affect the system. One of the examples I can do is, for example, an unsecured diagnostic code or a weakness in a gateway module which could lead to unsecured access to a subnetwork ECU. That wouldn't be good, right?  So exploit, exploit refers to an action that takes the advantage, you know, of a vulnerability and exploit may reveal a behavior in the system which was not a design or implementation intent. In penetration testing, we want to expose maximum possible number of vulnerabilities and exploit them.  You want to exploit all the vulnerabilities before an adversary does it. Attack Vector. Attack Vectors, basically these are mechanisms. These are, these refer to the mechanism and the targets or the paths an attacker can use to exploit a vulnerability. So for instance, you know, an exploit may use an unsecured message vulnerability. This means the message on the bus on the can bus is not secured. And so thus it makes it, it makes it vulnerable. And it could use attack vectors such as, you know, network management frames or there is time dependency of normal mode transactions between the nodes for correct operations. So those are the things an adversary can use and confuse the network or even cause problems in the safe operation of the system in the car. Attack Surface is a set of attack vectors. You know, essentially a group of attack vectors, you know, identified and, you know, they are loosely related to achieve unexpected behavior in a DUT or an ECU or on a network. So Attack Surface is essentially a group of attack vectors. You know, which are kind of related with each other for a specific, you know, identifying an unexpected behavior in the DUT. Let's look at fuzzing concepts. You know, what are the objectives and what are definitions, you know, some basic things before we get into, you know, deep dive into more into automotive things. So fuzzing in information technology has been prevalent for many, many years. It's nothing new, you know, it's been done there many, many times. But with modern cars in the complex edas in autonomous systems, they run millions of lines of safety critical code. Fuzzing is actually now becoming extremely relevant for this automotive manufacturers. And we can feel it being part of this, you know, community working with OEMs and tier suppliers. With fuzzing, essentially in the, so the whole my talk here is going to, you know, kind of relate what it means for automotive world to do a penetration testing using CAN fuzzing. So with fuzzing we are challenging the software design and implementation through injecting most unexpected, you know, semi-malformed frames. It's important to note this concept in the terms for automotive. We do not want the frames to be rejected at electrical level, otherwise it's meaningless. The fuzzing will be meaningless if the electrical system rejects those frames. We do want this, we do want to have enough validity in CAN and CAN every frames for them to reach to the transfer layer. And ultimately, you know, to the application layer and they should pass, they should go past the object layer. So it should reach the application. So we want enough validity around that, you know. So otherwise the fuzzing is not much relevant to CAN. It must be noted that most of such frames are still protocol-compliant. You know, when we are sending a CAN frame for fuzzing it's gonna be protocol-compliant. And so this is what we call as protocol-aware fuzzing. And in fact, this is most relevant to CAN technology because CAN, inherently in itself, is very robust at controller and electrical level. And it has excellent fault confinement. So CAN itself is very well protected. So, you know, so what should be our key objectives when it comes to automotive fuzzing, essentially? First, you know, early identification of security gaps and software bugs, you know. It's paramount to reduce the number of field updates because of software issues and bugs. We all know that because, you know, they are not cheap. They are very expensive, you know. And so for example, to have an OTA or a FOTA campaign or their update campaign for a bug fix is really least desirable.  OTA campaigns are really to provide new features to the customers. There is tremendous need of testing these OTA updates before they're deployed in the cars. And that's when the CAN and CAN fuzzing is very important. Thus, the recommendation, essentially, is to add the fuzzing first testing as part of SDLC or software development and release cycle. And automation tools are the most, you know, most important in this case. Vehicle spy software is a good software to integrate the automation testing in automated integrated testing for running the fuzzer tests at every release cycle. And that would be very prudent to do this to identify security gaps or software bugs in the target ECUs or nodes and networks. Second fuzzing can be extremely useful tool to try to provide robustness to the system level validation. Are the system level fail safe mechanisms good enough against an adversary getting partial or full control of critical messaging between subsystem nodes? That's why a system level first testing is also very, very important to be done. Third idea is essentially again to look for vulnerabilities on CAN and CAN FD node and networks. And before somebody else finds it, essentially, hack into your own network, find out all the exploits, use all the exploits before somebody else does it. And so yeah, that's one of the important objectives in automotive world for using CAN and CAN FD fuzzing. Lastly, it's great test to just test the network and node performance against extreme, I would say unusual traffic. In itself, it brings the robustness. So adding robustness to this in-vehicle network performance is extremely useful technique. And that's why penetration testing using CAN fuzzing is getting more grounds. Let's look at some of the techniques and methods of how you can do CAN, CAN FD fuzzing. So I'm gonna talk about a few of them today. And some of these come from our experience working with a lot of our customers and doing some research on my own. So I'm kind of sharing some of the things which is being practiced in the industry right now. So let's become aware of some of the key mechanisms when we are fuzzing ECUs or CAN and CAN FD networks. CAN and CAN FD networks, as I said, are inherently highly fault tolerant buses. Also note that traditional automotive networks have been embedded device networks which have many electromechanical sensing and actuation systems under their control. Thus, the identification of attack vectors and careful identification of first scenarios is probably where the most focus needs to be. We have to be very carefully identifying all the attack vectors because these ECUs control the vehicle operation, the automotive operation. And it's important to identify all those possibilities. For example, we all know about denial of service situation in IT world, but how do you define or can we envision a denial of service situation in the context of ECU cluster? Or more importantly, how do we design fuzzing so that we find all the vulnerabilities before an adversary finds on an ECU cluster? So some of the methods and techniques which we could look into are here. So for example, it's important that we thoroughly study to identify all possible attack surfaces. Some of the examples I can give is focus on payload data for it. For example, the payload, the content itself of the frame, the payload which is gonna be consumed by different nodes. Frame priorities, those are based on the arbitration IDs on CAN. So can we see a situation where a design was dependent on a priority and an adversary attack changes the priority of that frame? Critical factors like dependency of internal ECU algorithms on, for example, a periodicity of frame with needed data, such as these are the things we need to look into and identify and study. If is my algorithm totally dependent on a fixed frequency CAN data and can the adversary attack that and affect the algorithm and make a wrong decision in the car? These are good pointers to direct your first test and to cover all the aspects. Some of the mechanisms which would be useful include monitoring the nodes for their abnormal outputs and such as through diagnostic queries. You can query the diagnostics or you can stimulate diodes, for example, and then observe the response on the network while you're conducting the first or the first tests are being run. In ECU world, getting a feedback from the system is the key to make sure the fuzzing actually use the relevant results out. Classical pervasive definitions in fuzzing like generational techniques. There are generational techniques, there are a mutational fuzzing, there is randomization. So for example, in generational fuzzer, new frames are actually created by the first tool. That's the concept in generational fuzzer, where you generate the new frames from the first tool. This means an intelligent fuzzer can establish a closer relation between generated first frame to the normally present frames on the network. And that's an important concept. To deceive a system, the frame should appear to be very normal but causing abnormal effects on the bus. So thus making such injected frames, they have to move over value from the duty perspective. This kind of protocol aware fuzzing is actually most relevant for CAN or can of denotes. I've been talking about that in this presentation. Mutational fuzzing also needs to be protocol aware when it comes to applying to automotive networks. That is not that much relevant when it comes to, for example, IT networks. For automotive networks, even the mutational fuzzing technique needs to be protocol aware. So how do you do that? You introduce minute variations in the data through automated mechanism in a tool, in automation. And you inject those minute variation of the data on the bus. And so essentially to see whether the relevant nodes and ECUs understand and can take right actions when the data is not the real data but looks like real data. With randomizer, for example, it's a unique black box technique where you can realize the first frame can really create a totally agnostic situation to the arbitration IDs or DLCs. And in the randomization, you can actually on the fly switch between CAN and CAN of the frames to see how the reaction is from the network. And there are tools like Waker Spy and there are hardware tools from us, Neo VI family hardware, which allow, they're very helpful in realizing randomizer for fuzzing. Let's look at some more techniques here. As I mentioned before, it's important to understand if the duty response is valid or is it invalid or unexpected or abnormal. So in automotive world, rest bus awareness is the key. How is the rest bus behaving? How are the other nodes behaving when I am, for example, doing a mutational further? So it's very important to get the feedback from the network. Another important aspect is what is called as, what essentially it's a new phrase, which is quite recent is perpetual fuzzing. So this again comes from the automotive concept. In perpetual fuzzing, this means the first testing is a part of your development life cycle. And these fuzzing configurations can be continuously improvised by adding more and more unusual scenarios. One aspect of CAN and CAN of the fuzzing, it's conceptually that these tests actually do not directly depend on the duty. I mean, duty specifications and requirements do not affect the CAN first test. This means first test could be independently created as a suit to apply to various different duties. Some parts of such first test mechanisms as feedback measurement may only need to really change depending on what ECU we are talking to. For example, if it's an ABS ECU, I could measure its performance differently than if it's an airbag ECU. I'm going to talk more about this, more about vehicle spy software which has capability to run first test, first test execution engine and the measurement engine in parallel. That's the key for vehicles. That's a key which I've seen in vehicle spy software. I should be able to run my further execution engine in parallel to my measurement engine that gives very good control on the tests. And this remains, I think, a critical feature for successful capturing of the failures. Lastly, a thorough consideration is needed if duty is a gateway device. And you'll see a lot of gateways these days. New network architecture has OTA updates. So there is generally a gateway module, a telematics module and a gateway module. And these are very special characteristics. We have had experience and we have tremendous amount of experience working with gateway modules for very complex scenarios and testings. And these gateway modules are special characteristics like FOTA or firmware or the air updates. Or if it could be like a telematics ECU or a V2X ECUs. In these scenarios, fuzzing could be a lot more complex. And it may require to run your first scenarios across multiple of clusters or networks at the same time because gateway module connects to maybe let's say eight subnetworks. And it's important to be able to monitor all of them while you are attacking the gateway module for your first testing. So in such cases, the response monitoring also requires pretty advanced setups because you could have a downstream ECU on a six scan network misbehaving because we did the first test or we did the first attack on the gateway module. So these are all the things happening in the industry. And I'm happy to share with this community here. My concluding observation on this particular part is fuzzing for automotive is more design oriented. To be effective, it has to be design oriented. There has to be design idea behind how we want to fuzz. Simply standing random frames without like a closed loop control and without the ECU behavior, aware monitors may not necessarily yield desired outcomes. We need to minutely observe what ECUs are doing what network is doing when we perform this first testing. But the technique itself is doubtless in the industry now is required for the robustness of the vehicles and the performance of the vehicles in the field. Finding a single vulnerability in a post-production environment when vehicles driven in the road, it's very expensive to update, it's very expensive and it could be safety issue for people. But here I want to spend a lot of time working on interpret vehicles by tool. And I want to share my experience in using this tool for can fuzzing. This mostly is used, I've been using this tool with automotive OEMs and peer suppliers to see how they can fuzz their networks and ECUs. So interpret has created a set of tools in the framework. The framework is pretty involved framework where you could set up a bench for a feedback loop mechanism from the ECUs, from the DOTs. And you can perform extensive fuzz frame injection and execute the first tests on these networks. So some of the advantages which I have seen from using VehiclesPy and NeoVI family of hardware is it VehiclesPy has a UI-driven fuzzing engine. This means even associating a complex test script with the first test doesn't require like a whole team of Python programmers. That is the benefit I have seen our customers using and myself using it for my own fuzzing research. You don't need like tons of script creators or programmers who work on creating this thousands of scenarios which you can easily create in automation. And in the perspective of automotive, all of these things must sit well with the current verification and validation teams. They need to be onboarded immediately with this. You can develop a whole team who just does the can fuzzing. So VehiclesPy allows those kind of capabilities in the tool itself. And Intrepid, we as a company have been doing automotive networks for I think almost 26 years now. And all the OEMs have been our customers. We've been working with them for years. So we have applied all that extensive experience working with ECUs and networks and building high-end, high-speed FPGA-based tools. And our tooling for fuzzer is also designed totally around automotive ECUs and networks. One of the biggest factor for automotive ECUs fuzzing is diagnostics. Diagnostics is also an integral part of an ECU and also an integral part of VehiclesPy software. So while you're fuzzing, you can do your diagnostics on the diagnostic channel and query the ECU. At the same time, you can also essentially fuzz the diagnostic channel itself. And that's the beauty of some of the things which we have done with our customers. So the native support for a transport layer is already there, native support for OBD or worldwide harmonized OBD is already there. Some of these tools are already supported in VehiclesPy and we were able to leverage all of that for our fuzzer. With inherent capability in these tools for multiple channel fuzzing is very important. If DUT is a gateway node, I do want to monitor all the subnets at the same time, in the same context, when the same tests are running.  If it shut down its transceiver, we are not gonna be able to fuzz anymore. So we have to kind of keep the ECU awake to a certain point where it accepts our first frames developed and then you can attack the ECU. So rest bus simulation is also extremely important when you're fuzzing. So remember that, if you have a network of ECUs, make sure you have also the capability to make sure the ECUs are awake. And you simulate the rest bus behavior to make them active enough to accept our frames. And at the same time, there is also support for measurement of physical quantities or physical signals and IOs. For example, I want to see if the ECU went through a running reset. I can measure the current on the battery line. I can measure how much is the voltage drop across certain point across certain connections on the ECU. So all those capabilities are also important when you're fuzzing on automotive networks. Some of the other features which I have used in the tool in Waco's pie is I was able to generate thousands of test cases from the database files. And this process itself, if done manually, could really take months and months of efforts by team. But Waco's pie allows to create automatic signal attack from the DBC file, and you can create various different generational fuzzing test cases. You can generate any kind of range you want. And for mutational fuzzing, you can make a small variation in the payload as an input to the DUT, try to override the real data. And then you do this minor mutations, minor variations and see what how it goes. And Waco's pie has a lot of inherent capabilities I found and I've been using to support extensive test design around mutating known inputs. And that's a very powerful use in Waco's pie. The few other types of fuzzer techniques like randomization and some other techniques are very unique to Waco's pie. If you end up using it, feel free to use those. You can give your own seat for randomizer. You can have a Waco's pie generated seat. There are many various other things possible in this software. One other thing I found is support for database. And I did mention a little bit on ARXML. Supporting ARXML, supporting DBCs for automotives are extremely important because that's the real way of being actually be able to affect the performance of the device or the ECUs. Again, the classical question I've been always, I had to add this slide just to make sure how you actually do all these things. Seeing some pictures helps understanding what can be done if you're thinking to do print direction testing on CAN, what are the actual things I'm gonna do? So how and where one could start with CAN and can have defuzzing for production vehicles or ECUs or your bench networks. So you could start with some of these products. They're available in the market. So VehiclesPie Enterprise Plus, for example, is the software which has full-fledged support for CAN-fuzzing. You could, you know, you could new year fire too. Again, the device here has eight CAN networks so you can simultaneously fuzz devices of eight CAN networks. So this is the one I typically use. This is one of my favorite tools. And so it's widely, VehiclesPie has been widely used in automotive software development for more than, you know, 30 years. So our focus remains on the customers and, you know, all the capabilities you see in VehiclesPie's because they've been working with our, you know, customers for a pretty long period of time now. About Neovia Fire II hardware, this has a multi-channel CAN, CAN-FB and in fact, it also has DOI support. It also has, which I also use very frequently is it has inbuilt data logger. What that means is if I am fuzzing in the vehicle itself, I can record the entire traffic in an SD card inside the device. And if I happen to cause an issue in the car, shut down the car or put it in, you know, for example, lymph node or what have you or cause some multiple, you know, DTCs, then you can record everything in the device itself. So you have the least latencies from recording on Windows or, you know, the PC or other mechanisms. So Fire II remains very useful device for in-vehicle level fuzzing and also actually bench level fuzzing. This year, Intrapid also launched our latest, you know, platform agnostic, very advanced tool that we call it, it's really next generation tool. And it's like advanced automation and testing for in-vehicle networks. It's called Vehicle Spy X. You'll hear a lot about that in this event. And so I was also asked a question, hey, you know, can vehicle spy be used as can first tool? You know, and I'm gonna answer that in, you know, the next slide. So I summed up a lot of information I've selected. I tested it with, you know, working with the customers, you know, internal bench level setups and things like that. And here is, you know, my compiled information. And I think, you know, this is available for you guys to use it. And I compared the current capability support in three different situations, you know, I didn't do a lot of open source tooling myself, but this is the feedback I get from, you know, from the engineers or using open source toolings and methods to do fuzzing on automotive. And so I'm gonna go through some of these things with you guys here. And so the support for like dedicated can fuzzing support. So my observation is it's reasonably, it's low in vehicles by X currently. Open source tooling is really, you know, limited and it's exceptionally high in vehicles by three enterprise edition. It's really accepting the high because there is a set of tools which are can first tools. For scripting, I've seen Python support. We have very powerful support for Python in this vehicles by X and, you know, of course open source tooling use Python extensively and they use other languages and other programming environments. In vehicles by three, it's a UI based scripting engine called function blocks. And you can also do CC plus plus programming inside vehicles by scripting. As far as maturity, I've seen very high maturity when it comes to vehicles by enterprise again for can and canopy.  How much support native support is there? So for these by X, it's under development. You know, this is what I was told by the team. And automatic generation of first scenarios is right now not supported in vehicles by X, but it is fully supported in vehicles by three enterprise edition. So you could generate thousands of test scenarios, possibly to a single click. And again, I was told, you know, that in vehicles by X, the team is gonna use the same technology in vehicles by X in upcoming releases. Now ARXML DBC support, very powerful support for, you know, in vehicles by X and vehicles by three enterprise edition. I haven't seen really very native support in, you know, there is open source project to read a DBC file or ARXML, but being able to put like, you know, zeros across entire payload for all the received messages in a single click, you know, that kind of support lacks in open source tooling. Programming, flexibility and development, very high, I would say in vehicles by X because you have full control on each layer independently through programming environment, through API calls, through, you know, different layered, you know, call through using Python. So very, very much, very powerful, very programmatic in this, in vehicles by X. I have seen the same thing in open source tooling because you have really a programming environment. There is nothing, you know, automatically done that you have to develop everything. In, in vehicles by three, there is limitation of not being able to use Python, but personally, I'm a C programmers, I'm happy with, you know, vehicles by three. Automotive native protocol support like XCP, UDS or Autosauer, et cetera, they are fully supported in again, vehicles by three, and there is a reasonably good support in vehicles by X. But again, like, you know, looking for a UDS based support in an open source environment is kind of difficult and complex to create in itself. I have not seen much support on that front. Report generation, we have very good support in fact, in vehicles by X, there is a good support in vehicles by three. This is again, you know, I would say this is a area where we are focused and like I seen both of these tools, you know, next releases bring a lot of, you know, test reporting. Like potential for a tool to be part of the development and design scenarios. Vehicles by X is defined, you know, designed around it, you know, you could actually run your first test in your development pipeline through using vehicles by X. In all those capabilities will run in the pipeline while you are actually developing your ECUs. This means you make a change in the ECU software and your first test could be run in the pipeline on vSpy X and test out, you know, all your first scenarios. So this is very, there's an acceptable support for this to be able to do that. And I've seen very, there is almost negligible support for that in vehicles by three. This you still have to do right through a text API or something in your pipeline. So I would say the support is low here. Cost wise, both the tools have a cost, but I think, you know, as I say, you know, bang for buck, that's highest for vSpy X because in future, you reduce the amount of time your validation team is gonna write first test cases or run the test cases and look into the results. All of those things we are gonna eliminate through vSpy X for future. So it's a good investment now, but of course, you know, that's why I listed all the things here, you know, based on what you are, what your scenarios you are gonna do. And based on that, you could choose one of these mechanisms to do your can buzzing. One thing I should talk about is the OS support. Vehicles by three only supports windows. So if you're running your, for example, virtually see which you want to fuzz, you do want to go for vehicles by X in that case because, you know, we support vehicles by X or run some Linux Mac or Windows at the same time.  Hopefully this is, you know, this may help knowing what capabilities are available now in different tooling and how, you know, industry is doing their fuzzing and what are pros and cons. I hope this presentation was useful to learn more things for you guys. And well, that's it from me now for now. I think this last slide of my presentation and thank you very much for your time to listen to this. If you have questions, you know, just ask me if you have fuzzing experience you have worked on, you want to share with me, you know, if you found a issue in the ECU, let me know. I'm very excited to know all about that, you know. And just share your experiences with me. My email ID is here. And if you have more questions on some of these products I've worked very frequently, then just send me a message. Thank you for your time.


Hey, what's going on guys? Shit.  Sitrep. You got it. I'm glad that other people have to do this too, because it takes me about eight tries to get going.   I was like, how do you do that? Hey, what's going on guys? Patriot Prime here once again with another episode of the Sitrep. And my guest tonight is Mike Case from the YouTube channel. Mike Case. Mike, how are you doing tonight? Great. Hi. Thanks for having me on. Man, I am glad to have you. I always appreciate the guests that come on, so my people can get to know new reviewers. And if I'm not mistaken, I think you were one of the first guys that I met when I got on a Transformer Facebook page. I think you're the admin of Transformers and such, correct? That's true. Yeah, it sounds like me. That was one of the first Transformer Facebook groups I joined. And remember, I did the take a movie scene and add the Transformers, the movie quote to it that ended up going like for 400 posts. I do remember that. It was, that was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. That was a hit. I think it was one for coffee too, if I remember right? Yep. That was a lot of fun. Excellent. Well, how the, just to let everybody know, I know you know, but how the sit rep works is I have 10 questions for you, 10 regarding Transformers, no, excuse me, five regarding Transformers and five regarding you as a YouTuber.  You'd think I'd have an idea what I'm doing by now. You are episode number 11. Awesome. All right, we're going to start off with question number one, sir. What is the appeal of Transformers for you? Well, it's definitely nostalgia at this point being almost 37 years old. Like I was at that age.  So it's just, it's never left me. I basically just never grew up from being a kid. So as a kid, I loved anything that changed. I like mask. The Ninja Turtles even had mutation things, anything that could transform from something to another. I wasn't picky. Go-Bots, Transformers. I wasn't that kid that was too good for Go-Bots. Like if it could go from a robot into something, I was all about it. Hey man, my very first transforming robot was a Go-Bot. Yeah, there we go.  People are just tricking right now. Nothing sacred to me. Nothing sacred. I love Optimus Prime.  Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I love it. All right. Number two, aside from G1, which is always the number one answer, what's your favorite Transformers fiction? G2. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Well, there was a fiction. There was the Marvel Comics fiction. There was. Well, and then the cartoon, they just replay G1 with some weird CGI stuff added in. But now I think if I had to choose, I know everyone, like, pretty much all the cool people except for Tony say Beast Wars. And I'm very similar to you. I didn't watch Beast Wars when I was on. I didn't watch Beast Wars until I worked at an electronic store and I got the DVDs for cheap and I bought them all because I was a nerd and I wanted all the Transformers sets and I watched them all. I fell in love with Beast Wars then. But I think my favorite is still there. Yeah, you're still there. You was dying. I was like, Oh, no. I was like, Oh, the wife and son are watching Hulu. It's it's not. Yeah. So I think Transformers Prime takes the cake for me because it's it's what I blame for getting me back into Transformers now at the level that I'm at. Prime was a good series. It was. I got all those on Blu-ray. They're nice. Got a little buttons popping up here at the bottom again. Technology. Technology. I can edit this later. Probably. You can send it to me. I can edit it down. All right. Question number three, sir. Do you have a favorite figure or grail? This is the figure you will never let go of. You have to sell your entire collection. This one's not going anywhere. You know, there's an interesting conversation today on Transformers and such about Grails and what's on the rail. Yeah. I thought about that question when when that was going on. And I think I definitely think the Grail has to be special. So I would say no, I don't have a Grail. My favorite Transformer is usually whatever the last Transformer I got. I'm not super picky.  So whatever the newest one I have is the coolest one. I don't really have any for my childhood. Like I look behind you and I see all these amazing G1 Transformers and I love each and every one of those, but I also love my new ones. I love my masterpiece. I love I want to feel like Transformers grew up with me. So while the G1's cool, I like kind of the newer bots. I love the Siege line. I love third party stuff. I put the TF Con recently. I dropped some big bucks and I think my favorite is probably my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the TFC ST commander, but it's basically they took the G.I. Joe Rolling Thunder a property I love from from my childhood and turned it into Optimus Prime. And he is currently my absolute favorite Transformer. And I honestly don't know what it would take to knock him off that throne. Wow. That thing's impressive. I can't remember. Yeah. Have you done a review on that one yet? No, but this is going to be. So I've been getting a lot of, I've been, I took a break from Transformers reviews because a lot of Star Wars stuff was coming out and frankly on my channel, that's what's getting views. So that's kind of what I focused on, but I've been getting a lot of requests to do Transformers, more Transformers. So other than this side of me. Yeah. About the Star Wars. There's a little bit of Star Wars there. Yeah. I definitely, I felt the kindred spirit here. Star Wars, Transformers. Same thing behind me. I've got a shelf of Transformers and Star Wars mixed here. I just can't decide which one I like the best. But when this throne was first designed, it was half and half. And then as I started really getting into G1, I kind of shoved all the Star Wars to the back. Of course it's over here and there's something over there that the camera can't save. Yeah. We got to make the decisions. I'm still one with the force. That's good. That's good. I mean, something's got to hold all my pins and gadgets here. My Autobot repellent shelf. What is that? That is a screwdriver. Oh, I use it for Transformer repairs. So you have R2 repairing Optimus Prime? Exactly.   I got it. I got it. That's good. I like that. What are you talking about? I love everything. I love nerd stuff. But oh yeah. So I've been, I've been, I'm going to do a review of this on my channel. It's probably soon. But it's, it's good. There's a lot more work reviewing Transformers and there is Star Wars figures because it's like two reviews in one. You've got an alt mode. You've got a robot mode and you even got to show off how you get there for the most part because people want to see that. Whereas we were just talking, that can be such a pain. You don't realize how hard it is. I am working on Ravage and Laserbeak for the Siege line. I screwed up Ravage five times while doing the review. And I'm only got up here. I'm only four minutes into my review and I've spent since seven o'clock on it. Yeah. Yeah. So it can be very time consuming. And then the filming for me is only half the fight. I go back in and I edit out a lot of stuff. I, I get things together. I add stuff. So it's, it's a, I have for every hour that I film, it's usually about two hours of editing that I put into all my videos. So it's basically like a second job for me, even though it pays a lot less than my actual job does. I think I earned enough finally to buy a Siege figure. Nice. I will see that till I hit a hundred. You know, you talk about editing and all the work that goes into it. That's like when I do the G1 figures, you've seen my G1 reviews. I do that whole history. And man, I'm usually three or four. What I can't pull from my mind like a figure I know so well, you know, I'm going back and researching because I want to make sure at least hit the main point. So there is a lot of work that goes into this.  Absolutely not. Because if you miss something or if you get something wrong, you'll get called out on that and you can't change it.  And it's cool getting that comment over and over again. Oh, you said this, but actually you meant this. And like, yeah, I get it. Thanks. Thanks for coming. You don't have to let me know anymore. Yeah. But there's no way for them to do that because most of those people don't even read the comments before they comment. They think that their comment is a comment no one's ever made before. So yeah, it's I definitely you have to research. You have to make sure what you're saying is right because there are people out there that are a thousand times nerdier than you are. And they do have all this stuff memorized. They've got everything memorized down to a T. They can quote their favorite episode word for word. I've met them at conventions. Those are the ones that they don't believe in speed stick. No. Oh my God. So yeah, I just went to TF con and that was definitely an issue. And I'm always cognizant of how I come across because like, I mean, I'll fanboy. I walked by David K. Oh, I know you do a fantastic impression of and you know, I wanted to say something, but I don't want to bug him, but he's there to be bugged at the same time, you know, so I'm like, oh, hey, David K.  I'm not just your Megatron, but I like all the other stuff you do because I want to, you know, I'm not just a fan, like a light fan. I like David K. A lot. I'm not weird, not sexually or anything, but you know, I like going off the rails. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to convey to him how much I appreciate him, but it starts coming off awkwardly. You know what? I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to check out of this guy. You have a great day and just like walk away, but he was super nice. He did because he does the John Oliver voiceover stuff or goes and now stuff like that, but he did that like Megatron. So he did a lot of different things that he does as Megatron. It was a lot. It was it was really cool seeing him do that in person. Dylan is a huge fan of Teen Titans Go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. In one of his favorite episodes, it's like a movie that's a real, it's a these flashbacks called the night begins and there's an evil dragon in this episode. And the first time I'm watching it, I'm like, I know that dragon. It's David K. It's David K. It's Megatron is this dragon. And I was telling Dylan tonight if I go, not if, when I go to TF Con and DC, I'm really hoping to meet him and I'll see if I can get him to autograph all these Teen Titan things. Yeah, he'll do it. He's super nice. He's super great things. Yeah. I can talk to him and say, I'm David. See if you can make it. So he feels like he's talking to himself. I'll be great. Yeah. When Graham mentioned that there, that was one of my favorite quotes of Beast Wars Megatron. I do that anytime I'm wanting to do that voice. That's what I quote.  The beginning. At the end. Yeah. That's the phrase that gets you into that mindset, that Megatron mindset. And then I walk around the house. Yes. Yes. All right. Where the hell were we? Oh, question. I have no idea. I don't know. Ah, number four. Yeah. You probably answered this. No, you can't answer because you don't have it yet. What figure is your white whale, your most wanted toy? Right now. Oh, man. Dang. That's that. I mean, I could definitely answer that. I even thought about it. But well, before, before it was the one that I just got. So now it's going to be something new. And I'm looking, I'm looking at my, my bots here. I'm going to go. Right now it's Masterpiece Dinobot actually, because it's just, it's just too expensive. It's just, I refuse to pay $250 for a transformer. As cool as it is as much as I want it. It's like, it pains me knowing that I want it, but I'm never going to buy it. It's not that I can't afford it. I just don't think I should pay that much money for a transformer.  Oh, I waited and got the knockoff MP 36 Megatron.  I do. I paid $90 to it. The same company is coming out. Dinobot. I just saw that yesterday. And I'm very excited for it. So that's, it's still my white whale until I get on my, my, my, yeah. So it's still that until I get it. But once I get it, I think that will pass. Like I'll feel better inside. But maybe it's going to be there. I don't know. That's sad. And for everybody flipping out right now, this is our money we're spending to put in our collection that I'm not passing off as original. So that's true. Come at me. I don't have any problem with buying a KO. I know there are a lot of people that are. But as long as you're not trying to pass it off as an original, um, I say it's fair game personally. If you can buy it, buy it. Yep. Exactly. I don't know. I'm not going to buy it. Yep. Exactly. All right. This is our final Transformers question. What is your favorite Transformer character? Any fiction? Any media? I won't judge. It's, uh, I was going to say rescue bots. Optimus Prime. But that's that's Tony's answer. So, uh, I'm going to say just regular Optimus Prime. Uh, I have an Optimus Prime shelf. Something about those colors that shape the head. It's always appealed to me. I don't even like trucks, but as a kid, every truck I saw like passing, I'm like, Optimus Prime. I just, I love the character. I love how he looks. I love everything on the bottom. Hell, man, I'm 45 years old. I see car carrier go by. Oh, it's Ultra Magnus. Here comes a fly. It's Ultra Magnus. I know. I'm so fine. I'm not, I'm not alone there. That makes me feel good. Oh, not at all. And being a Star Wars fan, when you walk up to the automatic door, do you use the force? Oh, yeah. I, I open it with the force. Like it's definitely not some sensor. There's definitely not science behind this. It's, it's me and everyone's walking. I knew I wasn't alone, man. I knew it. Kindred spirits. All right. Now we're on to the YouTube questions.  Oh, man. Is it, uh, is it awful to do toy reviews on YouTube? Oh, man. Is it, uh, is it awful to do toy reviews on YouTube? Oh, man. Is it, uh, is it awful to do toy reviews on YouTube? Is it awful to say? I don't want to say that. That's pretty mean. Um, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Say it. I was just going to say a light amount of autism just a little bit. But, uh, uh, in reality, I don't know. Every, like growing up in my room, I had all my toys on shelves. They were lined up and I would, in my brain, tell some imaginary person sitting in my room about those toys. So I've been telling people about toys. I've been telling people about toys. I've been telling people about toys. I've been telling people about toys. I've been telling people about toys. I've been telling people about toys alone without anyone knowing for a long time. Uh, and then when, about 10 years ago, I, uh, I had this whole situation where I was kind of homeless and I didn't have any possessions whatsoever. And I would use YouTube to sort of compensate for not having anything. I would watch Peog and Clutter75 and all these guys that I found on, on YouTube. Actually, this is not 10 years ago. It was probably nine. But anyway, through all those, I would watch them and like they would transform the figure and I would be like, oh man, that does look cool. And it wasn't until, you know, like I kind of came on my own that I could start buying my own. And then, uh, it sort of went out of control. But then for my job, I, there's a lot of media stuff involved, which I'm not really allowed to talk about. It's not cool. I'm just not allowed to talk about it. Um, but I kind of got into doing video and photography stuff naturally as part of that. And so I, I thought, ah, I could, I could do this. I can, I can be a Transformers guy. And I've left all my original, like really awful videos of unboxings and reviews on my channel because I want people to see that like what I am right now is not how I was, you know, what, what, what 2014 says five years ago that I've been doing this. Like I've had a visible progression. If you go back and watch my originals, you can see me get a little better each time. You can see me upgrade my equipment each time. You can see me change my styles as I'm figuring out who I am. So it's been very therapeutic for me to kind of do that. It's been fun to share my passion for toys with people that share my passion with toys. I met a lot of really cool people doing this and the more cool people I meet like yourself, like Chris, um, it just kind of spawns that even got a guy in Canada. I call him Papa Gord. Uh, but he, he started just sending me stuff like randomly one day. So like little things like that. It's really been great for me. It's been fantastic. And it's been good to kind of use it to be a better person and actually get used to maybe a lot of negativity. Like you have to have a thick skin to be on YouTube. So every, yeah. So every time I get one of those comments, like someone on a chat one time when I was doing a live chat, uh, they called me weaponized autism. And I was like, you know what? That's pretty funny. Like I'm not even mad. That's legitimately pretty funny. So like, you know, I felt, I feel like it's helped me become a better person. It's helped me get guarded against, you know, are used to being on the real world. Um, and it's just kind of helped me be who I am today. I wouldn't be who I am today if it weren't for making YouTube videos. Dude, that's awesome. It's funny. I started this whole thing out from buddies of mine wanting to do gaming channels. That was a big scene back before. I was like, well, I'm not that good at games. And besides, I like to play in my t-shirt and boxer shorts on my couch. And nobody wants to watch that. Nobody wants to. Actually, I know some people that might, but I don't. I wouldn't watch it. There's the same guys that hunt David K. Now, nobody else. My buddy says, well, if you don't want to do that, why don't you talk about transformers? You know about those and it's like, ding. It gives me a new way to show off my collection because there's nobody around here that collects. I mean, somebody is because somebody's buying the stuff at Walmart, but I don't know of anybody personally. All right. I think you just and I didn't go ahead. Oh, I didn't really know anybody either. Until I met my co-host who does boxing shots with me, Zach, he was dating we, everyone, all my friends with karaoke every Tuesday night and the daughter of the owner of the karaoke place. She's she's a very attractive girl and all the guys sort of would either fun over her or treat her like a little sister and kind of protective of her. And this guy started dating her and no one really knew or liked him. And then one day he was at my house for a party and he stopped by my room and looked in. He goes, those bots over there and like instantly we became like best friends because he had very similar collection than us and then we both have used our love of transformers to become very unhealthily addicted to buying buying more. Yeah. I've seen it. I've seen your look. I'll send there. I've seen thıll I says I'm sorry if you watch as I screw up. And I wanna do that so bad I have to wait until the wife and kid are gone. And I definitely have to put some It won't be a hurting because it's been a long time since I got And it거�in. It's always the light of heart. My look I'd snap my Megatron my G1 Megatron I'd have a heart attack Tony would have a heart attack. There's your fourth ball Tony think about it it's okay it's not broken don't worry. I think you kind of answered question seven which is what keeps inspiring you to get in front of that dang well I mean yeah so I guess I did answer it but I can expound on it well right now it's it's a hobby and it's one that I absolutely loved doing and that's I mean I guess a lot of people ask me advice because obviously I've got a few subscribers and I'm not making a lot of money but I'm making some money and a lot of people will ask me like what did you do like what do I need to do and my the only thing I really tell people is do it because you like it and just keep doing it that's it like I don't when I made a video I would put hours into it and I'd get 70 views out of it and for me like I didn't care how many views as I got because I did it because I enjoyed doing it and eventually it just starts to grow it just starts to happen so I kind of want to see now where this takes me like I wanted I want to know like it's already opened up a lot of doors for me in terms of people I met the kind of stuff that I've got the skill set that I have I've learned a lot about video production and things like that from doing this so I want to keep doing it to see where I go like am I eventually gonna be one of those big like mega reviewers like through or piogg or toy galaxy or am I just gonna be mediocre and I don't know as long as it gets me in a couple conventions for free like I'm cool with that like so far getting this small amount of money each month from YouTube ads has been enough to keep a couple bots on my shelf or I'll buy I just used my last one to do a renew my PO box that's something I don't have to pay for because it just comes straight out of YouTube and it's a fun tax write-off so little things like that now talking about conventions when you went to TF on do people recognize you I did I got recognized both from bots and shots and then also just as a solo kind of transformers slash Star Wars reviewer it's very weird it's it never I will never get used to people coming up to be being like hey I watch your channel like why oh like I I'm never gonna use to it and I hope I never do because I don't want to be that guy I don't be like the too big first britches kind of guy and if I start talking in my southern comes out because I was born in South Carolina so where britches sometimes the thing I say people might not that's why I wanted here I'm drinking a soda pop oh see I don't do I don't do soda pop but where I'm from where I'm from everything's a coke well take everything no matter what it is it's coke flavored water oh from Kroger that's good that's good so there's no Kroger's around here I miss Kroger's Kroger's awesome I'm there every day my wife sends me a Kroger list 10 minutes before I leave work every day every day every day okay I'm lucky because I have a target right next to my work so it's the same for me but I also get to check out toys see it sucks where I live you probably heard I've got one Walmart and Amazon yeah that's it huh that's it yeah I mean I'm also God's in now so that's where I've got some on the way from that sure I mean yeah I don't know if you've seen my my toy hunt videos but around me within a 20-minute driving distance I've got about five targets and like six Walmart so that I could I can go to I used to have two toys or uses but you know that they're gone so that's sad yeah I know right I know I tell you every time I watch these toy hunt videos I just want to sit in the corner and drink I say every time I go toy hunting I might find an imagine next toy for Dylan he doesn't have or I just just disappointment it's they always got disappointment in stock yep they always have disappointment in stock that or like weird stares from parents like why are you here and I'm always like looking for a toy for my son here let's see I think my son likes these are these called transformers you say oh okay yes Optimus Prime I don't think my child has that one yes yes one of these please oh yes I do need a gift receipt absolutely it's very embarrassing sometimes they want $50 for this stupid red truck what is this a red vehicle this is dumb with no trailer I know oh that's ridiculous Walmart what are you thinking but I just had a I just had a viewer a fan it's weird to be condom fans but I'm gonna send that to me like someone just sent that to me in the mail yeah I just did it my last unboxing he's like hey I was literally talking to him on the way up to TF con and he's he messages me on Facebook and he says hey you really helped me a lot I just wanted to send you something and I was like okay like let's find it's a PO box for it up and it's a it's in the box that the Walmart reissue G1 Optimus Prime so that is cool yeah I have got a gift on the way I'm saving it as a surprise but I was very very thrilled very humbled and very excited for what it is on the what this this is my first gift I've won yeah I've won a lot of lottery shit raffle I've won raffles on YouTube but I've never just a gift Dylan has yeah these little shows but this is my first one I'm really excited I'm tracking it Thursday yeah it is humbling though right like someone someone likes you enough to want to send you something with nothing in return other than something you've already done yeah it's bizarre to me the people are like that but I I had a conversation with Gord the guy that started who started sending me stuff and he says that he got so much out of the videos that I make that he feels like it's paying me back I don't see it that way but like I'm not gonna complain I'm not gonna send it back that's for sure yeah you just gave a shout out here's the review yeah pretty yeah that and that will always be that special figure to you it is I was never gonna buy that G1 Optimus Prime unless I saw it dirt cheap $50 again it's that price points too much but now it went from being a figure I would never buy to one of my favorite figures in my collection because of how I got it for sure I like Graham and all of his figures being from like family members and has that nostalgia it's a little bit like that but not as old okay where are we where we're at see we're not as off the rails as Tony shout out but you know we're we're doing pretty good that's because I'm sober if I do these on Friday night yeah all right there you are there are thousands of toy reviewers on YouTube what makes you different than the rest other than that epic beard which if you watch my sit reps you can see how mine's been growing since they want I actually just trimmed mine up today for this for this I wanted to look good on here so I was all the gray is right yeah but Dylan refuses to let me shake well you probably wouldn't look like his dad anymore yeah just some dude yeah who is this gentleman what is this stupid red truck what what makes me different I don't I don't know man I would say what initially one of the transformers is because at the time I didn't I think I'm calling out other transformers I didn't like many other big transformers I felt like they were long winded and they would just talk about stuff and I'm like dude just get get to the bot tell me thoughts about the bot just get to it and I remember I remember who it was but I was looking at the time for the video and we're like three minutes into the video and he hadn't even started talking about the transformer yet and I was like are we actually gonna get to review or just gonna be talking so I just my head I was like I could do this better and then I realized now I probably can't actually but but yeah I don't really have anything that makes me different other than me I'm not anyone else and when I make a video I'm not trying to a per parody anybody else I'm just this is the way that I make a video this is way it makes sense to me and I like to think that my passion for toys sort of comes out because I do genuinely love toys I had a period where I would dream about going to toy stores and looking at toys I may have psychological issues now that I think about it yeah I could see that you know Graham after you after we usually do the sit-rep I'm talking to you guys for a while kind of like we carried on before I didn't start recording sure but Graham really humbled me because I at the end I thanked him I explained how you know you're the guy that I watched for years and years as I was getting to do this and I think it was I may have been doing it three months when he subscribed to me and I told him I was I was floored that you subscribe to me and he said well after watching a couple videos I liked your personality it's you that people want to watch it's not necessarily the robot which kind of goes into what you were saying when I first started doing my review like I said I do the intro of the character it's history first and I've done that since my very first G1 and I remember one time there was a guy that got on there was one of the negative comments now I'm brand new and fresh to this and he's like if I wanted to watch somebody talk about Transformers I won't watch that get get to the point and it was at that point I was like okay this isn't what people want they just want to look at your hands and fool with the toy but then I thought again I said no I'm not gonna let this one negative comment stop what I've been doing that other people have enjoyed so I just I roll with it how I would get everybody a G1 toys going to get the history modern toy will I'll show the box get right to the figure toy hacks rep you see my toy hacks is a totally different way to do it so I'm kind of like you said slowly fell into my own so I'm hoping that that's what differentiates me for everybody well it is and I don't I don't subscribe to just anybody if I subscribe to somebody it's cuz I like the personality there are a lot of big youtubers I don't subscribe to I'll watch them if I need to get information on a figure like a transformation process or something I'll go to like Mgo or Bobby skull face or something but I actually don't subscribe to any of those guys because I don't really like their personalities I don't really like I'm this I don't like them as people but when they when they're reviewing their personality doesn't really mesh with me but yours just for instance since I'm talking to you I can butter you up a little bit I actually like that because you do have like not a lot of the anecdotes you have in the history you're not just saying that because you research did a lot of that stuff that you know like when the comics when you've got into talking about the comics and appearances I never got into the comics as a kid I don't know why I was always the cartoon so it was interesting seeing these comics like in knowing the history of the comics behind the toy because talking about the toys especially these old G ones there's not a lot to those like it's flip out the feet pull out the arms you got is now a robot instead of a truck or whatever you know that that's it so it's not like today where it's like pull this out turn it halfway flip this whole thing around flip this inside out close this up you know it's a lot more complicated now so getting straight to the figure is probably more important but back then I don't like optimum G1 Optimus Prime because he's a great toy I mean he's a fine toy but for me it's the nostalgia it's the history like where did all this come from I have this you know great masterpiece Optimus Prime right here but what why do I have this like what was the original source of this and going back and finding out about those it's something I genuinely like enjoying watching your channel for well thank you thank you yeah I appreciate that that's kind of what got me started was I love talking about the old figures yeah especially any more when somebody walks up like in my office I have decorated with transformers and Star Wars will be good oh I love that first Transformers movie and I'm like which first transformers there was a cartoon oh yeah yeah that's always awkward when someone oh I love Transformers yeah I like Sam I'm like what what no okay okay like it's fine if you that's if that's if the Dave formers are your G1 like that's that's good I'm glad you got into Transformers but it's it definitely dictates the rest of my conversations with you that's for sure definitely yeah all right well number nine what is your thoughts on the Transformers social community YouTube Facebook Instagram do you have any special shout outs well I mean so I'm a I'm a member of a lot of online Facebook groups and whatnot Transformers and such is a little dear near and dear to my heart because I am an admin there and it was my first one that I kind of joined and committed to like this is kind of my home so definitely that but I would say as a whole I mean Transformers isn't really different from any other nerd community you got your good people you got your bad people you got your toxicity Star Wars has it no Star Wars horrible yeah Star Wars is awful I love Star Wars but I hate I hate talking about Star Wars now because it's either gonna be like the new movies are the only the old movie like I mean like it's fine it's fine I just like whatever like I don't this week like it's fine calm down it's just movies like you know like I get it but it's also just movies like I said beginning nothing to me is sacred so that means that I don't mind making fun of something a little bit but also means I don't hold anything as like this is immutable this is unchangeable and if it's different it's garbage I'll give it a chance sometimes it is garbage though the new movies are garbage yes but yeah I did like are we talking about Star Wars Transformers still yeah I like the Force Awakens actually and one of the few people I feel like that likes the last Jedi I think I can acknowledge the fact that it has problems but I genuinely like some of the things in the last Jedi and I think it's a fun movie that I think the people that like oh they ruined Luke Skywalker and I'm like yeah but you know what there were a bunch of books that were just as bad beforehand just differently like some of those some of Star Wars Legends books are god-awful and anytime I start talking about that they go well those don't count like well I mean they do and they don't they're still there like you know so I just like things I like that's the way to be that's the last way yeah all right here we are last question I think oh I got shutouts shut up shut up shut up shut up let's drink my drink yeah there you go I got Patriot Prime wherever if you're watching right now it good let's see Toy Galaxy I just hit a button did I hit a button we're good okay I'm not strong I'm just hyper if he's a big YouTuber now but I've been following him since we were at one point he and I were like closest and subscribers and then he just took off and I toy galaxy toy galaxy he he does Dan's fantastic and if I could ever be friends with anybody on YouTube like more than anyone else I want to be friends with Dan because I feel like I feel like we could be friends but it's also weird because now it just sounds like I want to suck up the damn I genuinely think that we could be friends you know there's also like a six-shot and all the blur the two other admins from TF sort of TF source not a website transformers and such you forgot the name of your own face I know right it's no big deal it's I'm just an admin to it but Chris and Nat were instrumental in getting me kind of in the in the YouTube community not just on Facebook but actually encouraging me and doing YouTube stuff so I definitely have a close kinship with them and I definitely appreciate them man I could go on and on there's a lot of people a new up-and-comer Gord Phillips Papa Gord shout out to his YouTube channel he he started doing stuff because he started sending me stuff and I sent him stuff back so he started making his own videos and they're genuinely pretty good he does a really good job again I like him well we're friends but I just like watching him talk about stuff he's got a nice calming voice and I could I go to sleep to it sometimes and I use YouTube a lot for that if I can't go to sleep I've got some go-to channels that I used to go to sleep I have to say the collector 75 was actually one of the earliest like if I need that relaxing English voice to kind of lull me into dreamland I want to talk about Star Wars and there's no better than the collector 75 I use actually to if I'm feeling anxious about something your videos are you just transforming the the megatron like you did and a couple others where it's just you transforming the bot like I love watching those because it's just calming watching you like just transforming like it's fun do more of those I only did three and it was to test out a new app on my camera for videos yeah I tried doing that it's tough it's tough just sitting down and transforming a bot I think I've got one or two on my channel but it's really tough but I it's very calming to me to sit and just watch someone no talking just going from point A to point B maybe even back to point A but it's fun just watching that process it's like playing with the toy but not you know yeah nice I might do many bots they were pretty easy super easy flip it out all right my friend last question all right you have any channel goals and where can our viewers find you this is your time this is your time to plug yourself yeah so I'm very creative with my name it's just my name my case it was originally I think my channel name was originally just in Cacer Lake because the first video I ever posted was me singing bye bye bye at karaoke and I thought no one would ever see it so I did that and then YouTube made you change your YouTube name to your actual name when you linked it to Google plus at the time so it's just my case that's just that's my name my channel goal right now is to hit 10,000 subscribers I'm about a thousand away or so from that and when I do I'm definitely gonna have a giant giveaway on my channel I've been squirreling away toys in that closet right back here it's open I've got so I've got about I probably have about 200 or $300 with the toys to give away so when I hit 10,000 subscribers I'll figure out a way to do that I don't know how I'm gonna do it yet I can at least maybe send you two or three from this yeah why not every cool I mean honestly I hope I send you some from this I'm sure a lot of the people that watch my channel would like to watch yours as well I've definitely shied you out during my my live streams I do those once a month on the first Saturday of every month I do a live stream just to kind of connect with people on a more real-time basis instead of just replying to comments and that that's another thing I do I reply to every comment and that's tough man that's that it takes a lot of time but I feel like they took the time to comment so I kind of I want to let them know that at least read it exactly and the only way to really do that is to at least respond with the thanks or something like that that's what it's starting to because he gets all kinds of comments and he'll always hop down and give him a you know thanks for watching I appreciate yeah he has cracked me up I don't know if you follow his channel or not but I do he made the announcement that he had filmed he finished filming all of his Optimus primes so he made the announcement said I'm done with these guys so I can't film my weekly show but I'm going to move on to other figures so everybody starts boo hoo and on his page oh I can't believe you're quitting YouTube so that's not that I remember that I totally remember that so then he makes another video this morning explaining it again I've filmed all my Optimus primes I'm going to move on to turtles and ghostbusters and everything else the that's just prime show is over oh we're so sorry you're leaving and quitting YouTube so he made another video tonight explaining that he wasn't quitting I am rolling at this poor guy. Yeah I heard from some of the turtles and ghostbusters quitting I'm like he's not quitting did you did you watch the same video I watched like what's wrong with you he was on message he was on messenger with me earlier today and he take photo you screenshots as this guy saying we're always laughing back and forth we're sure we found out we're army vets together so we kind of bond that connection for sure well Mike that is it that is all the questions I have you were talking about plugging yourself I will put a link to your channel in my description and at the end of my video where Patriot Prime is holding that flag up I will have a link to your channel there and a link to one of your other videos I think I may link the general grievous video because I love that okay yeah it's a fantastic figure he was one my one my favorite figures of the prequels I like the prequels me too in my perfect world Darth Maul and Grievous would have been introduced in episode one and carried through to episode three it would make them a lot more impactful story telling wise that's for sure killing Darth Maul in episode one was a huge mistake yeah he came back as a cyborg I have a cyborg figure of him over there yep the Clone Wars that's one of the best things about the prequels the Clone Wars cartoon the CGI cartoon basically fixed the prequels for a lot of people it made Anakin better brought Darth Maul back and you know what for it was surprisingly very like adult like there are a lot of people dying from lightsabers like it reminded me of some of these Transformers shows like I was telling Graham in our last set rep a lot of these cartoons start off really kitty but then they realize it's the adults that are watching them and the next thing you know you got people being decapitated with lightsabers so yep I love it I can't complain I'm not complaining I loved it well Mike I really appreciate you coming on board I'm glad I got a hold of you I really enjoyed talking with you tonight so thanks again buddy it was a pleasure yeah and I want to thank you guys for watching if you like what you see don't forget to like don't forget to subscribe I tried to put out a set rep at least now maybe twice a week and once again thanks for watching check out Mike's channel and I'll catch you next time this is Patriot Prime signing out hey I really appreciate you guys stopping by my channel don't forget to like and don't forget to subscribe also check out some of my other videos that I've done on generation one Transformers modern era transformers and toy hacks reprolabel sex once again this is Patriot Prime who are