Thanks, Rob. I am your host Morgan Hutchinson, and I'm here coming from the emergency department at Thomas Jefferson University and I'm here joined with my whole team from the Health Design Lab. Christy Schein, Michelle Ho, Mary Ellen Daly, and of course, you know our friendly producer and Zoom bouncer, Rob Puglisi, my co-host, Matt Fields, and our design lab director, Bong Coop. We are also joined by our friends at Cooper Hewitt and the Smithsonian Museum, including designer, writer, and curator, Ellen Leptin. Please remember to turn on your video, use the chat box to introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about yourself, and of course, as always, feel free to join us in an optional happy hour drink. If you missed any of our prior episodes, you can check them out on healthdesignlab.com slash D-O-T-F-L. Nurses are truly frontline workers. Today, we are lucky to have two nurses here as speakers. We have Marion Leary, who's joining us from University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, and Ashley Howell, who is our colleague in the emergency department at Thomas Jefferson University. Following these two speakers, we have Brian Lee, who is an art, protect, and designer coming from New Orleans. Each speaker has about five minutes to speak, and we will also have two five-minute breakout rooms for you. Bye, you! All right, so, you know, for those of us who have been working in emergency rooms and hospitals and taking care of patients, we know that coronavirus has disproportionately killed people of color in our country. Black Americans are two times as likely to die from COVID-19 as white Americans in some areas of our country. It's even as high as three times, and the health disparities in COVID-19 are not due to genetics, but rather it's due to decades of racist policies in our country. Racist policies have led to higher rates of chronic health conditions like asthma, COPD, diabetes, obesity, kidney disease in communities of color. And unfortunately, these conditions are risk factors for COVID-19. So, when we think about ending these health disparities in this current pandemic, it's critical for us to keep in mind of designing for social justice. We believe that racism is a public health emergency, and designing solutions for COVID-19. We need to keep aware of these issues and address the current racist policies that exist. So, it's been a tough week for us here in this country, and we are just kind of grateful that you're able to join us and want to kick it off to Matt Field, who will introduce our first guest. All right, thank you, Bon. And thank you for that. I am really excited to introduce someone I first crossed paths with probably 10 years ago at the University of Pennsylvania when she was doing some pioneering work in resuscitation. Since then, Mary Ann Leary has become an all-star at the Crossroad of Nursing and Innovation, and she, in design thinking, and she's the Director of Innovation for the School of Nursing. She has done some really cool stuff, like founding Emerge Labs, which uses augmented and virtual reality platforms to reimagine how we prepare for emergencies. And in 2007, Mary Ann Leary was named Philadelphia's Geek of the Year by Geek Adelphea, Generosity, and Technically PHL. And, you know, when I was growing up being geek, it wasn't cool, but now it's like the best thing. It's the greatest title you can ever get, so that's so awesome. She is also a host of Steam Rollers, a segment of the Steam Everyday podcast featuring women who are paving the way in science, technology, engineering, art, and math. So, Mary Ann, it's awesome to have you here with us. Thanks for coming. Hey, everyone. Thank you for having me.  Can you all see those? Yep. Great. So, Matt, thank you for introducing me. Being Philadelphia's 2017 Geek of the Year was actually one of the best titles and awards I will ever get. So, thanks for mentioning that. So, like Matt said, I am the Director of Innovation at the University of Pennsylvania School of Nursing. I'm also a founding member of the Society of Nurse Scientists, Innovators, Entrepreneurs, and Leaders. And I bring that up because what I'm going to be briefly talking about today is the work that we did during COVID-19 around hacking for health. So, two weekends ago, we led the Designing the Future Nurse Hack for Health hackathon, looking at COVID-19. And we did this in partnership with Johnson & Johnson and Microsoft and Dev Ops. So, the four companies worked together on this weekend-long nurse-led hackathon. And the idea is that we wanted to have not just nurses, though, it was focused at four nurses, but we wanted to have engineers, designers, innovators, entrepreneurs, physicians, pharmacists, whoever was interested, come together for a weekend and create solutions to problems that our nurse clinicians were seeing on the front lines during this pandemic. And we had over 500 participants work through the weekend. We had over 30 teams create pitch solutions at the end of that weekend. In five different challenge areas. So, we looked at remote patient monitoring in the acute care setting, remote patient monitoring in the home care setting, patient transfer, handoff and huddle, data and reporting, and resiliency and self-care. And those were the five areas we really wanted the nurses to design innovative solutions around. But we wanted to build a foundation for the nurses to understand how to get from a problem all the way through to a solution. And in partnership with IDEO, so we had two speakers from IDEO, which is a big design thinking firm, who did lectures on the Wednesday before the hackathon and then during our Friday night virtual kickoff around using design thinking and innovation to respond to COVID-19. And this set the framework of design thinking going from empathy, define, ideate, prototype and test. And then we also included a number of different resources for all of our participants around design thinking as well. So we really wanted to give them this foundation to use throughout the weekend. And one of the resources that we gave them. So at Penn Nursing, we created the design thinking for health platform, which is an open access free curriculum that nurses can use to design solutions to problems they're seeing every day in their practice. And so we let them go on to this website, go through the curriculum. And Dr. Von Kuh is one of the lecturers on this online open access platform. So we created four documentary videos, six original lecture videos and some podcasts. And we also have design thinking resources activities. And these were all used during the virtual hackathon and to allow these nurses to work through the human center design process. And so I'm just going to quickly walk through some of the examples of what our teams and participants in the hackathon did using design thinking to help them get to their end solution. So obviously first step in design thinking is empathy. And because this was a virtual hackathon, the nurses used a lot of social media to do interviews and to try and find key stakeholders to talk with and to learn about their experiences. Also, because we had over 500 participants, most of whom were clinicians, they were able to take the experience, the collective experience of the group and really take the observations from those colleagues to understand these different problems that they were trying to solve for. Some teams were looking at how to use school nurses for contact tracing. Some teams were looking at how to decrease exposure to COVID-19 during acute incidences in the hospital. Some folks were trying to figure out how to keep morale and resiliency up in their colleagues and coworkers and all this came out by talking and using the empathy activities and design thinking. These two teams here use journey mapping, but a number of other resources and design thinking activities were used as well. We had teams obviously then go through and define what their problems were. Again, I just mentioned some of those problems so I won't belabor this section, but you know, there are a lot of teams working on different platforms to think about what the problem statements were. Think about the problem from the point of view of the different stakeholders who they were designing for during this hackathon. And that could have been clinicians, but it also could have been patients. It could have been community members. It really ran the gamut of the spectrum. And then for ideation, you know, we had some of the teams that were using, you know, it's like it's not like I like down here. One of the teams was looking at it. This may or may not age me, but the old Microsoft Word paperclip that used to pop up when Microsoft first came out. You know, looking at whatever that team was thinking of for a solution. Was it like that Microsoft paperclip and how could they build on what was already existing and using in a different way in the solution that they were creating. We did have a number of teams create working prototypes. So the idea with this hackathon was really, we didn't want a hackathon for a hackathon sake. We really wanted the teams and we stressed to the teams that the solutions that they came up with needed to get out to the clinicians as quickly as possible after the hackathon was over. And so these were tech based solutions that we were asking teams to create. And also I failed to mention these were open access solutions. So whatever was designed during the hackathon is open source and was put on GitHub. So any healthcare system provider community group that has a need for these can go in there and grab the code and build upon it. And so we had teams again building out these prototypes over the weekend and also testing them. So I'll move back prototyping real quick. This team was looking at a patient augmented reality information system that you could use in the patient's room so you wouldn't have to bring different charts in or, you know, other computers into the room that you could just see everything you needed to see using augmented reality. Additionally, we had a team who is looking at resiliency and built out an app that they tested over the weekend as well. And you know part of design thinking is being able to story tell and to pitch your solution and we did have a number, like I said we had over 30 teams who were pitching to a number of different judges from around the world. We had judges who were physicians, designers, entrepreneurs, CIO, CEOs. And so at the end of the weekend folks pitched we picked winners. These are our five winners from those five different areas. And they're now going to move on to get three months of mentorship from Microsoft Johnson and Johnson and SunCL to continue building out their solutions. And again these were focused on COVID-19 for clinicians at the bedside and out in the community to really help solve the problems that they're seeing during this pandemic. The hackathon was a huge success of all the surveys we got back and the nurses were really excited to learn more about design thinking. As somebody who's been working in this area for a couple years now to really see design thinking come from sort of obscurity and nursing to where people in the profession are really looking for more resources and interaction with this methodology has been really great to see. And this was definitely highlighted during this COVID-19 virtual hackathon. If anybody's interested in seeing how the weekend played out, we put together a transcript of the Twitter hashtag on Walklit that you can access here. And we also have the winning pitches. We video recorded them all. So those can be accessed through the Microsoft telecommunity as well. And with that, I will wait for questions or see how this plays out. Awesome, Marian. Thank you so much. That was a great, great presentation and perfect timing because I know that we were discussing strategies to approach a hackathon virtually and so glad to see that you have done it.  I was actually going to visit is there actually maybe even like advantages to doing virtually that you didn't anticipate. Totally. It was so super successful. I've been on some virtual hackathons during the COVID-19 that weren't as successful. I'm not just saying that because I was involved with it. But there's definitely pluses and minuses. Pluses being that we had people from all over the world. And this was a global hackathon who otherwise would not have been able to participate. And I think a lot of the nursing hackathons I've been to in the past were not as heavy on programmers and designers. Whereas this one, I think because it was virtual, the programmers and designers didn't have to leave their homes. We really had a lot more engagement from those professions as well. So definitely pluses and minuses all of our participants said they felt equally as engaged as if we had been there in person. And so I'd be happy to talk through Matt how that worked, you know, at some point. Yeah, I'm very interested. I'm sure a lot of other people will be too. Well, thank you, Marion. So that was excellent. I'm going to go ahead and kick it back over to Morgan because I think she's going to take us to some breakout rooms maybe so go ahead Morgan. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Marion. It is time for our first breakout room. So we're also the breakout room. We're going to randomly assign you on to groups of four to six people. This is a time for you all to connect and introduce yourself to each other. Tell us who you are, where you're from, what kind of work you do. And for our prompt for this breakout room, we're going to ask you what has been your favorite way to stay connected with your community during the COVID-19 pandemic. Hey everybody. Hi everyone. Welcome to the breakout room. Hello. I'm Matt. Nice to meet you guys. Everybody want to introduce themselves? I can go. My name is Sai and I'm a colleague from Texas. I am a graduate human-centered designer and I used to work as a UX researcher. I am particularly interested in the healthcare field and I used to work at Ross Medical University as a design facilitator. Sai, what's up? I think we've been put in the same breakout room multiple times for these. I don't know if Rob keeps linking us. Good to have you back. Hi. Dina or Jamie. Hi Dina. I'll jump in. I'm the Director of Washington, DC. I'm an architect and designer. My specialty is learning environments in schools. I knew Bhan Ku, Bhan's work through a friend Metro Bridge who needs a pediatrician and another design thinking medical doctor who helped me design his school who helped me design a school around childhood obesity. So anyway, I know of all of your work in this community and I'm kind of bombing in to learn from you guys how you innovate. Cool, awesome, welcome. That's pretty awesome work you're doing to design a school around childhood obesity. That's great, like great idea. Oh my gosh, yeah. Cool, thank you. Mimi, is it, am I saying it right? Yeah, you are. Okay, cool. Thanks, all right. Yeah, it's a silent agent there. Yeah. Hi everyone, I'm Jamie. I'm a fourth year medical student at the University of Vermont. I've been really interested in design thinking and trying to spread it to different medical students and I recently bought this book. Oh wow. So I'm going to be so great that I'm recording, I'm actually recording, I'm the recorder so he's going to be so great that that was recorded. Yeah. Well, I'm really happy to connect to other people outside of my school. Usually when I talk about design thinking in school and there's like one or two of us that are like yay and everybody else is like what? Yeah, exactly. So nice to find a community. Nice, thanks. And Kim, I can, well you're unmuted now which is good, I don't see the mute thing but I guess we still can't hear you, no audio? No, okay. Well, it's still very nice to meet you. Sorry, okay, nice to meet you Kim. I don't know if we just have a chat when they can use the chat. Cool, all right. Well, what was our topic too? How to stay connected and COVID? I think this is how I stay connected. I was like, whenever the topic I was like Zoom but it's been the other, I mean it's really interesting. One of the things that happened in our work group was to create an account just a Slack account for our group and we always use a lot of Slack for work. Health Design will be used Slack but to use it in a big faculty group, I didn't know and it's been actually really amazing how many relationships have actually developed I think just for the ability to have communication in that format of almost like a text but non-intrusive. Everybody can kind of turn on, jump in, jump out. So that's been cool for us, yeah. Yeah, I can completely second that because my organization went to Slack also and it's like democratized communication, I feel. I think it's less formal than it is now but I don't have to think about it. It's on my phone so I can get really accessible. Yeah, it's been really well. I like wanna transfer my parents onto Slack now too. Yeah, yeah, because it's interesting because emails, if you send an email to our group, that's a big deal. It's like you're standing up and you're getting everybody's attention but with Slack it's more water cooler but it's something that everybody can hear if they want to. And the search function is amazing. What's the search function? Like you can search for conversation. Oh, search, search, search, yeah. And also it's probably the only platform which is connected to Zoom. Which probably, both of the stocks are even raising all the volume just because of the COVID crisis. Zoom and Slack. Yeah, definitely I think there's a learning curve with it. There's my only complaint because I think it's... Yeah, but yeah. Welcome back everybody. Oh, this breakout runs so quickly. It's nice to meet everybody with Kathy and Ashlyn and Ram and everyone. And we have people calling in from Chicago and from Arizona and I know from all over the world as well. It's great to talk to you guys. So I'd like to go ahead and introduce our second speaker, Ashley Howell who is a friend of ours and a colleague of ours. She is an emergency medicine nurse at Thomas Jefferson University where many of us in the health design lab also work. And then Ashley, I'll share, I think I'll share my screen read. Okay, sounds good. Cool, just have to figure that out. So I'll get started. Hi, I'm Ashley. I'm a registered nurse that works in emergency department along with Morgan, Bond and also Matt in the emergency room in Center City. I've been at Jefferson for about a year now before I was at Hanuman, which was one of our other inner city hospitals that unfortunately closed down last year. There I worked as an ICU nurse and now I am here working at Jeff with my new family and I am honored and proud to be here. So this year has turned our world upside down. First starting with COVID-19. I remember looking back, this is me actually leaving out of a patient who we were treating for COVID-19 and basically give an example of how we have our pappers on and how we sterilize ourselves after we leave a room, make sure that we're thoroughly wiped down. And I just posted this on my social media. Before we enter a room, we have to papper up, gown up, make sure that we're changing our gloves, wearing our masks. These are just a group of my colleagues and just amazing group of people that we've worked with throughout this crisis that has affected all of us worldwide. Either we know someone who has had it, we've had it ourselves or we've taken care of it, if someone diagnosed, someone who has recovered from COVID-19 or has had unfortunately not survived from COVID-19. This has been a worldwide crisis and I feel like as a nurse, not only as a nurse, but also an African-American nurse, I have another crisis that I'm also fighting for, which is obviously the Black Lives Matter movement. This last week has been really hard, I think, for everyone. Not only including dealing with COVID-19 and being on lockdown and not being connected to my family and friends, but also dealing with this and also understanding the movement and dealing with the firsthand. So I wanted to, I felt that it was important this time to not only stand up and voice what I feel as a Black African-American nurse and stand up for what is something that's also really important to me, and this is the Black Lives Matter movement. Right here, I had so far attended three protests in Philadelphia. The first one I attended was Saturday, which I know we got slammed in the E Day, so I've heard. So I just wanted to share some pictures as far as how we've been as a community, helping people and the protesters during this time as they're marching around Center City. So to the left of you, there's two medics. So in their bags, they had gloves, they had alcohol swabs, they had scissors, they had anything first aid that anyone would need just in case any of us got injured. I also saw a number of people handing out milk, which is what protesters use whenever we are tear gas, pepper sprayed by police officers when they're attempting to de-escalate, which I feel that has been mostly peaceful protests, all the ones that I have attended and saw. On the right side, I just had to take a picture of this young man who was walking with us. And this was yesterday, he said, we are, I can't see what it says, we are essential workers ending racism. And this is what exactly is important to me. Like I said, I had posted a video on social media when I just was very compelled to feel like I needed to speak out, not only for my family, but also use my social media platform to be a voice to my community and also as a registered nurse on how we can help these people. And also wanting to show how the protests have been peaceful. And ironically, as COVID-19 has affected us worldwide, I feel like this has also affected the whole entire world. It's been a ripple effect to see so many people of all walks of life, all religions come together as one, as you notice, like many people are wearing masks. I saw people hand in mouth, hand sanitizers, gloves. We also were making sure that we were staying safe while we were protesting, which was extremely important. And I'm so glad that I was able to capture that film. That video right there is actually more protesters that are joining the protest that I was in. They were actually coming up from, I believe, Broad Street. And we just all started clapping once we saw them. And right there at that location is Love Park that we are at. So this was me and to the right of me or my left is my coworker, his name is Jackson. He is a daytime tech at the emergency room. So that is the sign that is very true to me that I made before I went out on that protest and it speaks from the heart. I am at the end of the day when I take off my scrubs, my stethoscope, clock out at the end of my shift, I still am a black woman living in America. So this movement is something that affects me, my family and is important to me. And at the end of the day, we are all coming together as one fighting for humanity, human rights. And to see people from all walks of life is I've seen people protesting in Israel, Palestine, Italy, France, Jamaica, all the states have been participating so it's amazing. To the left is another coworker, her name's Anna. She's an agency's also another emergency room nurse and that was us protesting yesterday walking to the Art Museum. To the right, that was the first protest I went to and I had took that picture. It's four, I believe that they're residents, I'm not sure where they are working. And I saw them and as I was protesting and I was walking and I had to capture this picture because at the end of the day, as healthcare providers, as frontline workers, we are here to treat, we support each other, we want to provide service and aid to patients of all walks of life, sick, dying, healthy, rich, poor, doesn't matter. So the fact that these four healthcare providers came out either beginning of the shift or after their shift, they felt that it was important to speak up and also take a stance of what they believe in because at the end of the day, it's humanity that we're standing up for it. And sadly, it's not just one incident that happened last week with Mr. George Floyd. Unfortunately, it's a pattern that I've seen, unfortunately a lot of times, but I just had to take this picture and it just speaks volumes. And to see so many people get together during this crisis, during COVID-19 was just such inspirational for me. And I think I've tried to see the positivity throughout this. So I think me going out to protest along with my coworkers has really helped me see the light in the community that we've all been gathering for and coming together to stand up for the rights of humanity. Thank you so much, Ashley. It's an honor to have you here. And thank you so much for sharing those photos and the experience that you've had and your perspective. It's very, very wonderful. Thank you. Let me see. And there's Morgan, there's a great question from Colleen. It says, do you feel like, and so this is for Ashley, do you feel like racism is talked about in healthcare settings, especially from hospital leadership? From my own experience, I don't believe it's talked about enough. I will say from my own personal perspective, I know that something like this as far as racism can be uncomfortable for people to talk about and to have an open discussion because we have so many people that have different views. Like one of the things I had said on one of my videos is it's very hard to see another person's perspective, which is understandable when you don't live it every day. I don't believe it's talked about enough in healthcare. I hope that eventually we can talk about this more fluidly and understand that there's many people that can agree to disagree on certain things. But I feel like certain people may not, may stay away from that subject because it makes them uncomfortable. But I personally don't feel like it's talked about enough. Thank you, Ashley. I'll turn it over to our director, Boncu, who will be introducing our next speaker. Yeah, thanks, Ashley, and really honored to have Brian Lee here. I first met Brian at South by Southwest, or actually, I don't think I met, well, I kind of met you. I was more just like in the audience listening to you speak about design justice and it really blew me away. Brian Lee, he wrote an article called American Cities Were Designed to a Press and that's in City Lab. I'll share the link in the chat box. Brian is the, he's a designer. He's a director of Coal 8 Design. 2018, Fast Company voted him as one of the most creative people, which is pretty cool. But I've been a big fan because of his views on design justice and I think his message is an important one during this time and it applies not only to a currency in this country, but in healthcare as well. So thank you, Brian, for joining us this week and I'll hand it over to you. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I appreciate everybody having me today. You know, it's been a long week. It's been a long month. It's been a long year, decade, century when you have to deal with things that are so ingrained into the system that they affect you at a cellular level, right? I know that's a metaphor. It's not a real thing. I know it's a bunch of doctors and nurses, so I know I'm not gonna, don't fact check me on that. But it is, it's a deep abiding thing that challenges and changes how we operate and move in the world. And so, you know, we abide by this core concept that for nearly every injustice in this world, there is an architecture that has been designed to sustain and perpetuate it, right? This idea that our values are validated in the spaces and places that we design and thusly when our neighborhoods are sick, our people become sick, right? Everyone knows this, right? The sign I actually just showed, you know, racism as a public health crisis is so embedded not just in the air in our cities, the way in which we construct those places add to that issue. One of the things that often happens for us when we are doing this work on a day in Dallas, is we talk about gentrification, we talk about its role in fragmenting communities and thusly making those communities less likely to connect with one another, less likely to be active outside of the home, less likely to take care of each other and then more likely to be sick because of it, right, in various ways. And so, it's critical that we see this as both the acute and the obtuse kind of conditions that they are and address both with the same vigor. You know, we often point to the fact that, you know, the issues that are harmful in our communities, oftentimes the frontline workers are the ones that have to deal with those kind of fires, whether small or large, you're dealing with something immediate and it's why there are TV shows about cops and TV shows about doctors because it's immediate. There aren't TV shows about architects because it takes us five years to do anything, right? But if you think about the destructiveness of certain acts, you know, the things that y'all deal with are, again, these small fires, but think about architecture as kind of raging waters, right, like it is longer term and is omnipresent, it is still as destructive as anything else in this world. And we have to balance those elements enough to find some sort of healing through that process. And so, I will say, you know, our work in the last month, since we started to re-up our drive around Black Lives Matter in this last series of protests, has meant to organize thousands of designers across the country around an action call. And that action call is to dismantle the institutions and systems that maintain architecture and planning as a tool for that oppression. And a way for us to do that is by, in part, doing what BLM has asked us to kind of forward in this world, which is how do we defund police departments that usually eat up between 35 and 50% of our budgets in cities and invest in the cultural spaces and communities, the hospitals and clinics and communities, the things that actually secure and sustain community in a real way. We talk about community and neighborhood as body and soul in a lot of ways. So neighborhood being the kind of geographic boundary that sustains a place or that gives you the meat of a place, but the community is the soul. It is this thing that has a affinity to the body, but it's not conscribed to it. It can float outside. It can be detached in some places in some ways. And so we have to be very careful to maintain that affinity as best we can. And so our job this last month is to really channel the thousands of people who have joined this cause and find ways to address not just the murder of Black people by way of state-sanctioned violence, but the murder of Black people by way of neglect. And that often happens in healthcare more than happens anywhere else. And so I think about the mortality rates of Black women. I think about the lack of concern oftentimes for Black and Brown youth when they're trying to find healthy alternatives in their lives. And I'm hoping that the connections that y'all have made and y'all are continuing to make that I can join and that I can marshal the folks that we have to join in this fight and be supportive in the recovery of our immediate conditions, but I think long-term how can we stay connected so that the work that you're doing at the design lab is a part of what design justice does moving forward. Great. Yeah, thanks, Frank. I think we have maybe sometimes if you want to ask Brian some questions on the chat, I'd like to like this point about dismantling institutions and anything really, and I saw some on the chat too that we talk about structural... We talk about social determinants of health and how they impact overall health outcomes. But I think we have... There's been a little discomfort of just calling out racism as the cause of decades of policies that have impacted Brown and Black people in our country and have set up the conditions for communities of color to have worse health outcomes. And we know that place where you live is probably the most important factor in how healthy you're going to be because where you live determines how good your school district is if you have access to food, if it access to health care. So I think there seems like there's a time now that we can just call it out for what it is that decades of racist policy have impacted the health outcomes of communities of color in our country. And I'm wondering, like, any advice to us in the medical field of what we can do to address this? You know, the biggest thing that I could ask you to do is to marshal the weight of the medical field to pressure architecture, right? Like, we respect the medical field. A, we know what it takes to go through years and years of training and years and years of licensing to become a person that could barely do the job that we thought we wanted to do. Like, we're still always learning, right? And I think the medical profession can be more declarative about the social determinants of health in a way that starts to pinpoint how the architecture can start causes a lot of these issues. And I think, in part, it helps because, you know, we think about how zoning became established within the United States. We think about how redlining has impacted the distribution of resources in the United States. And all of those things start to chip away at the health of those communities. So marshaling the institutions within the AMA to be a sledgehammer against other institutions that are not going to change otherwise. And there's a question from Ellen Lepton. She says, how will designers contribute to dismantling the police system? Yeah. So the big things would be to, the way that we think about dismantling the police system is to dismantle the parts of the institutions. So for instance, the AIA has a justice track where they give honors and awards, and they have a massive kind of system to support that track. So detangling ourselves from that, detangling ourselves from the causes of SEPTED, which is crime prevention through environmental design. One of the things that I wrote in the article is that architecture serves as the soft power to police power. Like it is the warning shot before police are called. And the way that we design spaces makes it intentionally a warning shot. And so I think we should detangle ourselves from the actions of defensible space and crime prevention through environmental design. And we should remove all officers and cops from the design process completely. There's no reason an officer should tell us what should be happening within the frame of a building. And there's some data I saw on we see these police in full-on protective gear. And I think it's maybe about $800, $900 to outfit that riot police. And then there was a picture next of a health care worker. And it's like $8 to fund a health care worker. So I think when we talk about racist policies, we have to think about how much in communities does that budget go to funding the police versus funding schools, education for funding hospitals. And these are really tangible ways of how we can call out some of the racist policies on funding and overfunding of the police system and maybe underfunding of education and health and workforce development in communities that create these conditions. Yeah, absolutely. I think, lastly, before I have to chew off, I just want to say again, I think about how our policies are often centered on whiteness. And they define status quo by that definition. So we think about single-use zoning or single-use housing that is proliferate across the United States is not necessarily a condition that collective or cultural communities want to endure. We actually enjoy congregating. It is part of our very essence. And so when we think about zoning policies that detach us from one another, takes away from our psychological health, but ultimately it means that we have less interactions with one another, which means that it takes away from our physical health as well. And so we have to think about not just the singular moments but the collection of rules and policy that have been implemented over time that culturally define how we exist in this country, but are not necessarily the way that communities of color operate. All right, thanks, Brian. And I think we're going to kick it off to... Is it Morgan or Matt for our next part? Thank you so much, Brian. We're very lucky to have you here. I really appreciate your perspective and your presentation just now. So we are now going to go into our second and final breakout room for the day. Just as a reminder, introduce yourself. Tell us where you're from. Tell us what you do. And for our prompt for this breakout room, it's going to be five minutes. What have you been doing to stay well during the COVID-19 pandemic? Hi. Hi, everybody. Hello. Hi, everybody. How are you? A few familiar faces, all right. Yes. I have one familiar. Well, I have two. We're lucky to have one of our med students with us. We have a year for a student here. Thank you. Thank you for joining. And I think I'm becoming a regular here. I'm a fourth year medical student at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia. I'm also a design student. And I'm involved with a lot of two topics, pretty much everything I know about design thinking. Excited to be here. Awesome. How are you staying well, Lynn? I go almost with my mom.  So it's been good in that sense. Good. Awesome. Uh, Kuba, Kuba left, looks like, but I like her background a little bit. I love her background. Oh, here she is. I'm here, I'm here. There you are. Oh, Kuba, introduce yourself. Yeah. Sorry, I don't know what my name is not there. I'm Lucia Kuba. Mary Ellen and I were in the previous... Oh, okay. I am a designer working at Parsons at the New School University. But my background is both in public health and fashion design. So I was very interested about this conversations. I'm not fully sure how I have been trying to keep it together as we are all dealing with different needs and issues. And yes, you can watch that story. I'm like with my kid right now. Yeah. It's K-I-D-S, yes. Um, but it's been quite a, for sure, a challenge to try to navigate around both university education and school education and also the importance of keeping an active conversation about not just social determinants, but social justice broadly at home as well and outside. Yes, that's what I can say now because now I have to, sorry, I have to jump to... No, no, nice to meet you, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Mary Ellen, what about... I'm going in order of people in my screen, so it's Mary Ellen, Juliette, and then Mary, so... I've been staying well by staying away from the HDL faculty. Yeah, I understand. I'm only kidding, yeah. We've been working from home and just trying to limit my outside time to certain hours of the day. I mean, I do have an underlined condition that makes me vulnerable, so I try to stay away and just go out when I need to. You know, trying to stay healthy by... We used... When we first got married, my husband and I, we lived in one of my mother's apartments and we built a gym in her basement. So I recently went down and dismantled it and brought it back home. So we've been trying to stay healthy that way. Cool, yeah, well, home project activity. Julie Ann, well, Julie Ann, introduce yourself. Hi, everyone. I'm Julie Ann from San Francisco, California. Currently, I am in my application cycle for med school and also working at the EED as described, so just like absorbing all the different transitions and protocol like lesbian stuff while trying to navigate the change dates of like the MCAT and applying and stuff, but also just trying to stay really involved with the intersection of design and healthcare. I think that's something I do want to go in and right now I'm just trying to just absorb all I can, learn all I can, and it's really exciting to see like that this intersection is like involved in really important conversations. Great. Just say, well, I am playing, I just try to play my instruments, my piano when I can. Excellent. Awesome, Mary. Tell us about yourself. Hi, I can resonate with that, Julie Ann. I play the flute in the, very poorly, the, what is it called, digitally do. So, bought one of those to kind of get the vibing coming down. I am calling from Michigan. I got acquainted with Bancourt in some of the writings and research. I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan and work for Spectrum Health Systems, which is the largest health systems in this area. And my work is in diversity, equity and inclusion. And I work a lot with the clinical staff. I work across a lot of different sectors in the organization to embed DEI. And we look at, well, we have a design model we call inclusive design. And so that's what I do. And so I was having bandwidth problems because we had a wind that came through. So I was on a call before here and it kept knocking me off and I tried to limit some of the bandwidth with the video. So didn't mean to be impolite, it was just I kept getting bounced off all day and I didn't want that to be disruptive to the meeting. No worries, no worries. I had a power that's been crazy, the storms and everything out here too. Mary, tell us, how do you stay well? So the flute, breathing exercise, I actually am getting well. I had COVID, yeah, mid of March. And fortunately, I think because I was on such a, I worked out a lot, but I did gain the COVID-19 and I probably about 19 pounds of weight, but it was horrible. I'm just getting back to being able to breathe and I'm doing some breathing exercises. So that's why I've been playing the flute to help with that. Oh, gosh, yeah. Well, you look well on the screen, so I'm glad to say that. I'm glad, I thought I looked terrible because I was like, oh, I forgot I still had this bun up. No, you're good. Before we lose you, it's still. Wow, I had another great breakout room. I don't know about the rest of you guys, I think that we all did. But the interesting thing in my room is that I haven't had two people from the same place. It's so great to meet all of you guys from all over the world, all over the country, from all kinds of backgrounds and specialties and careers. And it's just really nice to meet all of you. And we've gotten great feedback from that. Hope you liked the prompts. Feel free to send us ideas for next week. And I think that we have a couple more questions. We did get a lot of questions this week for our speakers. And we have a few more minutes. So I will, along with Matt and Bonn, go ahead and ask a couple of those questions. Bonn, did you have any of these that you wanna start with? Marion's hackathon, what are one of the great ideas that came up? So there were a ton of great ideas. It's hard to pick one. I will say one of the ones that I thought would be most useful right now is it was looking at utilizing student nurses in public schools as contact tracers. So as schools are starting to try and figure out how they're probably gonna bring students back socially distancing and safe. They also need to figure out how they're gonna contact, trace and monitor and students in nursing school, they have a lot of community clinical hours they need to do as well. And so somehow trying to, the idea was that they would use technology to match the nursing students with nursing schools. And also then use sort of RFID tracking for contact tracing. I don't know exactly the details of it. I was not a judge on that one. But I thought that was really important because it is going to be, I think something that is gonna be at the forefront while schools start to think about reopening. And I'm gonna post in the chat if anybody wants to watch the videos of the pitch, all of our teams pitched, you can go to our website and check those out. And there's a question from, we probably have the last one, Stesha. For Brian, do you have any examples of ways we can repurpose already established buildings or maybe spaces to design spaces for justice? Sorry, on mute. Yeah, I think that the best way to think about that is the amount of square footage that you have that's lost to storefronts, to ground level spaces. I would say start there because those are the spaces that actually start to connect communities back together and start to weave people back together. And so I'd say start there with civic, cultural, and communal opportunities for people to gather on a consistent basis, whether that's to shop, to eat, to love on one another. I mean, like whatever the thing is, we want to be able to enjoy the glow of our relationships in those spaces. Thank you so much, Brian. It's great to hear from you. It's really great to hear from all of our speakers. Thank you, Marianne, Ashley, Brian. This has been an awesome week and a great conversation and two excellent breakout rooms. I would like to let you all know about our speakers for next week. We have Dr. Aditya Joshi, who's a director of Jeff Connect at Jefferson's Telehealth. Dr. Sheila Sani, who's an interventional cardiologist in New Jersey and one of the stars of Chasing the Cure with our own vancu. And designer George I, who is the co-founder and director of innovation for the Greater Good Studio. It's gonna be a great week and we hope to see you guys all back there. We shall let you go where I'll go for it. Thank you. All right. Have a good one. Thank you. Bye, guys. Bye. Thanks, Ashley. Thanks, everyone.


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Hi, this is Debbie dashing or welcome to dare to dream love love love spending this time with you and I just got to say I'm like having a lot of love for my clients right now. I Really appreciate that I attract really hungry people who whatever they do are bridging the very metaphysical world That's the best word. I can give it because it's much deeper than that energy bio energy. I don't know but how blessed am I to Attract clients like that because working with them is so much joy started working with this gal on her book She does mortgage loans, but she's very metaphysical like deeply so and is putting out a very metaphysical book And we're in the middle of talking. She's like, I want to do a podcast. Can you coach me on that? I start coaching on her that and she's in when the book is done Will you take my book to bestseller? I'm like girl You got me.  I'm right here I'm your coach. 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That's lots of subjects because after spending 40 years exploring and studying consciousness and how it emerges into matter my guest David Adelson founder of peace and harmony company Invented a process to create from within the quantum unified field levels and it has been a game changer 700 programs later David has shown how effortlessly even global change can be he and his company have already developed simple easy to use programs to do Just what you're looking for change can be hard or it can be easy his programs make change effortless and to learn more visit peace and harmony Com I welcome my guest David Adelson to the Dare to Dream show. It's great to have you David Thank You Debbie. It's great to be here. I love you. I adore you. This is so exciting for me as you know So thank you for having me. Yeah, we're a mutual fan club and so I just want to preface my question where I'm gonna start by letting people know that as we are talking David and I I'm actually playing I'm being very I'm really going for it here because I've got two of his programs playing in the background You don't hear them. You don't need to hear them if you are sensitive to energy I'm telling you his programs have changed my life. You don't got to get it I love that there's no like I don't need to figure this out. That's your job David but I know the moment I started listening first to your peace and harmony download calm and then I bought your harmony sphere and Even a one for podcasters. This is the easy simple stuff You've got much grander, but it is playing in the background So if you're feeling like yummy part of it is because David's on the show and part of it is because we've got his energy playing on My end and also on his so David Explain when we talk about the programs and global change and effortlessness What is the work you do out in the world and what kind of label would you give yourself? Are you inventor? Are you unifield guy CEO? Explain all of what you do. I think inventor Because certainly not a marketer because I have 700 programs and every time I turn around my son is very frustrated because I've created another one and he's still trying to Do the marketing on one or whatever My whole thing is that I you know, I'm There's a lot of people and I'm sure there's a lot of people who are listening who may be aware that they're Feel a little out of place at earth. There's a lot of people who came here from Whatever other realm or dimension or plane or whatever you want to call it who came here specifically to help at this time and I'm one of those people and So and I've known my whole life. I mean to some psychic person Predicted my birth to my grandmother and my mother independently not knowing they were related I have had experiences of all kinds of things since I was young and and So my whole role has been to take The energies from higher realms specifically heaven and to make them accessible here on earth So we've been I know some people like the term downloading whatever the term is But we've been taking them from where they are and making them available here and we can call them quantum energies We can call them unified field energies. We can call them heaven energies and in my various marketing stages I've probably done all of them but basically it's this idea of Recognizing the inner workings of the divine of nature Excuse me of the subtle energies and then making them available to people in the easiest simplest ways we all know how hard changes and We all know how busy people are so what we set out to do was to make it Absolutely effortless to take advantage of these programs So they're as simple as as we're doing now, we're both playing silent programs You just turn them on and you let them play and as you have experience huge things start happening But we also have tincture some drops that you can take a couple drops for people who like that to take that a few times a day We have some super power drops called dissension lines, which are really potent The trot one of them is called trust of saints one of them is called ego less Ego less one is Self-aware these are really powerful ones that Again, you just take a few drops and it makes massive transformation. We have one called God's gate Which is if you feel like you you're doing okay, but nothing major is happening in your spiritual growth You take God's gate and it just blasts you. Oh my god Ready to place an order So so we have ten we have ten of those and they're absolutely amazing And then we have artwork that you just put up and you just glance at the same way you look at like a beautiful Waterfall or a picture of a waterfall and again, it makes changes We have six second videos that you can just you put it and you just watch it six times in a row 36 seconds is all it takes and it starts making massive Transformations in your consciousness and how you perceive the okay time out time out because I don't know if anyone's out there like me I'm trying to write furiously. Let me go back to super tinctures because you got me there Where are those available? We're peace and harmony download. I'm sorry peace and harmony co.com And they're called ascension line Ascension line, okay ascension. Yeah ascension and Then the and we're gonna get to the artwork a little later But where is the artwork available available everything everything's on the same site? Okay, so just toodle around plus the six second video All right done So this is amazing. I guess the question that comes up when I hear you describing this When I hear I'm not done but go ahead. I know but we'll we'll deep dive into each of them I want people to absorb Pieces of this at a time in like yummy delicious. Oh for it when you say Essentially, this is what I'm hearing you say correct me if I'm wrong that you are tapping into the matrix of the one all that is the divine and That you are finding a way to bring it here for us to access our true nature and meet be in vibration with Is that correct? And if so, how do you see that interpret that know that or even understand how to language it in a way that it becomes an energy we receive? Yeah, so that's a pretty accurate description. So And I'm sure a lot of your audience knows this I'm just going to explain it in a way that that from our perspective Whatever you want to call by our is it you and you and somebody else or just you I've always been part of a team since I was a kid I've always used the term we instead of I and when I was a kid I just said it's because of Winnie the Pooh and I really liked the talking about we but the truth is I Have always been very aware that I'm surrounded by a number of amazing beings that support me and I never feel that my decisions are Live our David's decisions. I feel that it's a group effort from the word go So I always say we or our okay. Thank you So I've a Lot of Okay, so Whatever it is that is homogenized non-expressed Field physics calls it the unified field feta calls it ottman or Unbounded awareness or pure awareness or consciousness or whatever they call it whatever we call it source although I don't like source because You can go to you can find pictures online of the source of the Ganges or the source of the Nile But that's not the source. That's just the first place. You see it The source is somewhere hidden behind that and so I Like to think of it as terms of source of source But it's a field that has all possible it has the potential for anything within it But it doesn't have anything expressed within it and the way that we describe So you mean the place of no thing where exactly thing can come. Yes. Yeah, so in Quantum physics, there's a process whereby In the in the quantum field for no reason whatsoever something can pop into existence move backwards in times and then split apart and go in two different directions and So this I and the quantum field is a more expressed field It's it's a lively field of energy, but it's already more expressed than the silent field and the way that we were sitting at the dining room table one night with a couple friends and and what came I Was doing work with divine mother who I work with pretty much exclusively with others but What came out was That how creation comes and this field Here's a rumor that it has all possibilities within it and it says Cool, let me see what that looks like and so within itself moving within itself It somehow creates Vibrations patterns whatever that move into from that level to the quantum field and then into more express levels into The vast variety that we see and to put that in perspective of how that nothing outside of it is coming and shaking it Nothing outside is doing anything so from a field where no color exists no sound exists no taste exists No thought exists all of that so from that we have the trillions of colors that my computer screen can display Which is only a fraction of what we can actually see That we hear the sounds that we can hear the smells the clouds the birds the trees the stars the heavens every Experience that we've ever had and the ability to have that experience and the and the magnificent glory of the human Nervous some all comes out of literally no thing of literally nothing Moving within itself somehow to churn this incredible creation so What you find is that if this is the process and it and it happens sequentially rather than randomly Although randomness does occur as well Then what happens is if you can go if you can transcend if you can go to those levels within those fields and see the seed From whence any particular thing is coming from you can enhance that magnified draw it out so we use the example of of color and light and People know that white is all colors and black is no colors So if you want to make something Purple if you can go into the white and within the white you can isolate purple And then you just kind of quietly nudge it up nudge it up nudge it up until it's expressed and then you go over here and you get some blue for the sky and gold for the Yellow Sun and green for the earth and flesh tones and red for your lipstick or whatever And you just start pulling from that level and that's what we do and that's where everything comes from We specifically would sit around and say What problems what what are the problems on the world that need to be fixed? And then we would find the sudden we would go in and find the solution bring it out and make a graphic or a card That goes in your wallet or whatever so that people can take advantage of it. Okay? Unbelievable that was a really good description because that's not easy to explain I discovered David that you got your bachelor's degree from the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa Had no idea in the study of unified field and then you got your master's degree from the Maharishi University of management unified field of consciousness and subsequently you serve four years on their faculty Yeah, I actually almost got another master's degree, but I didn't bother to write the final paper. So I Don't get credit for it. There you are. Anyway, what was it like? I mean Fairfield, Iowa for those who don't know I mean This is a pretty famous place and some pretty substantial people have lived there over the years But you know, it's I mean I would call it a commune of sorts but to be very clear it is a beautiful place of peace and meditation where they meditate twice a day and There's lots I could say. What was it like for you to be there to live there during that time? Okay, so I need to start with this when I first started meditating I got very excited about it and I heard a rumor that they were starting at University Which at the time was in Santa Barbara. They rented some Apartment complex or something. So in 1973 I got to go to Santa Barbara from Western, Massachusetts where I grew up and We were six blocks from the beach Santa Barbara beautiful, California loved it there. I was there for I Want to say a year and a half or so I went to France during that time and became a teacher of Medite of TM at the time Went back and then they were able to the university found that they could buy this campus to former Parsons College in Fairfield, Iowa So we all moved there. I spent a couple of years a year a year and a half They're then left did a whole bunch of stuff then moved back in the early 80s and stayed there for almost 19 years and because We wanted to be part of that community The the research behind it had been that in 1974 they discovered that when a Fraction of a person I'm sorry a small percentage of people in a given Population given city learned to meditate that the crime rate went down Which was very exciting because Marci had always been saying if we get the individual to be at peace then It should help society. So this was very exciting in the mid-to-late 80s Marci developed an advanced program for for people called the TM city program which we learned which included yoga flying and That was a cool breakthrough for individual growth But then they found that when people practiced in groups that it had a much more significantly dramatic effect on Society and what they found out based on a formula from physics for superconductors and super fluidity is That if they could get the square root of one percent of the population To be doing this program together twice a day for you know, it would be about an hour or so That it would affect all these things in society crime ray and health and Politics and all of this stuff. So in 1979 Marci asked a bunch of us to go to everybody to go to Fairfield who could so that we would have 1600 people doing this group meditation twice a day every day Which was the square root at the time of the United States population. I think now the square root is about 1800 and Really good things happening when we look at there was a it's it turns out that even though we had about 2000 to 2500 meditators in the town of about 10,000 Everybody had kids the weather all kinds of things. It was very hard to keep the numbers in the dome up But there was a time For I think about three years. I want to say where these very kind people donated a Million dollars a month and we got some people from some pundits from India to come to make sure that we had the right number and During that time. There was a daily tracking on the web you could find out how many people were in the dome and you could see what was going on in the news and Really good things were happening in the country at that time in the I think it was 80 83 to 84 that we got a group of seven thousand for three weeks, which is what you needed for the world and Staggering things happened one of the things that happened was it before that happened when a plane crashed Everybody died that was just given knowledge and during this course in Thailand The other side of the world a plane crashed with 186 people No one died only one person got reasonably severely and I think one person got fairly injured but still walk away a bull and another person like Bang this elbow and other than that everybody was fabulous and from that point on it People never assumed that if you were in a plane crash you were gonna die It was how do we how do we survive? How do we there's things that we can do? there was a Forest fire in the state of Washington when it began that they were pretty that was so huge they predicted was going to be months before they could put it out and Every day at the during these meetings that we were having they would read the news of what's going on and by day three It has started raining and by day five. They were very excited by day seven. It was over. It was completely gone. So This whole thing was happening. So we lived there. We went they and it was It was Iowa. So Coming from California where I was in Laguna Beach a block from the ocean at the time There was that it wasn't as beautiful as many places that I love but the consciousness is Really amazing and they have always and still encourage people just go there because The atmosphere is incredibly huge Yeah, so I kind of want to bring this up if I can and that is that The inability to consistently have The right numbers there was one of the reasons that we developed the precursor of the peace and harmony program Which was to help generate harmony at the best level that it could for wide Expanses of people it was called a smooth transition system now it's these peacemaker systems that we have and the first one we put up we put up in Austin, Texas and The weekend after it went up they had the largest forest fire they ever had in the history of Texas and it was right outside of Austin and the people who Had the system upset They never even smelled smoke Everything was completely fine where they were and she just said I can't help but wonder What it would have been like if we didn't have the system because you know thousands of houses had burned and everything We had similar experiences in Oklahoma with tornadoes and Florida and hurricanes and in North Carolina with crime rate going down But then what is possible right now with COVID like so people who are listening to this Whether we're in the virus coming out of the pandemic, you know, there's Some talk that maybe you know a kid have a resurgence because people are gonna just get back out there With all of this What do you have that people might want to start using that could? Make a big change you would made a reference earlier saying this is the time for heaven on earth This is the time for the golden life. You even said if we're here We asked to be here during a really auspicious time. So talk about that a little bit What what do you have that's available that could really solidify this into being a beautiful golden golden age of Feels to me like mass manifestation in a great way, but I'd like to make the leap Yeah, so thank you for asking the best thing is going to be to get a Peace and harmony system. We have the free sample, which is the one you're playing and we have some programs for hospitals and stuff that hospitals and prisons and Essentials businesses that will give them for free. They can use their own PA system that will let them use for free during the sit time Which will help eliminate people from I'm just going to you know the anger and hostility or whatever upset Unstressing whatever you want to call it There's no need for that And this can help reduce that and people can get systems for their own house We have a system that people use to so the people upstairs stop stomping around in the apartment upstairs You know and then we have the bigger systems in the bigger systems And my recommendation is get whatever you can afford because we can actually create a system for an entire country So, you know, it's it's as big as you want whatever people want and they start at you know Very reasonable fees and then it's just however big you want to go And these are physical systems not just the free download sample that we have And you've seen one of them, which is a slightly different one. So So that but the other thing I think to do is to recognize That almost nobody I don't want to say almost nobody Because I'm sure that there's a lot of people who are listening in your tribe and I know that you get this The COVID is basically mother earth Giving the human race a timeout and saying go to your room and think about what you've done Well said and that's it and when you get sent to your room Maybe monks like it, but the rest of us don't So we want to you and I have talked about how you know You want to be chomping at the bit to get out and visit friends and everything and I totally get that so But it's not a time that that the vast majority of humanity is going to be excited about it and yes Kids when they're sent to their room wine and can I come out and they'll sneak out and I'm just going to the bathroom when they're You know, I just let me get a book out of the you know TV room or whatever There's the you know, they try to get and we see that happening people showing up with guns and saying we want the right to come out And and it's just you know craziness Totally no, I concur with you a hundred percent that has been my downloads since the moment this happened I got it. I'm like come on if we say we are creators, right?  I want to change the projection whatever But if you shut down the entire planet individually and collectively and locked yourself inside As far as I'm concerned two things are happening concurrently. I mean, I think there's an enormous up leveling going on spiritually and brand new possibilities That you can explode into should you choose and second of all, you know, you meet you do need to pay attention I agree a thousand percent mother earth has been gaya has been so kind and passive looking Ish Up until now and I think it's like no, you know, I'm the queen This is my domain you're living in and we need to take care of each other and her and all of it ourselves It's a big reckoning, but I think it's a very positive reckoning And everybody I know has been saying I haven't had time to spend with my family and now I do I have The universe has been begging me to be alone and now I am And face whatever your x factor is you haven't been willing to face I think it's an incredibly profound time and not to be taken lightly or get caught up in the quote-unquote boredom or You know, how am I gonna, you know, all of that make a living then maybe that's been begging to be healed Or maybe what you're doing isn't what you're supposed to be doing or maybe it's time to collaborate or There's so many ways to be using this time worry And anger and and all of it let the uncertainty rock your world To bring up what needs to be healed and I promise you if you'll step into the discomfort So much is possible God knows I have been you know, I really have been and so we're gonna take a quick break This is such delicious conversation And when we come back we'll be talking with david about His invincible stars and brahman consciousness program and a couple other things also a very interesting way he got his start And so what i've been saying to you is stand for your greatness, right? 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You'll get a ton of stuff just for joining up That will help you immediately start to write your book So we're back now with the founder of peace and harmony co.com david adelson and david Invincible stars and brahman consciousness program. I just loved the name I was like, I don't know what that is, but I want to know what that is So it said that this is a guaranteed program to deliver personal development manifestation and enlightenment to the planet Can you say more? nah um What to say, um You know, we talk about doing less and accomplishing more and I know that a lot of people who are listening in your tribe feel that they're here to do something feel that they have a purpose and I've worked with enough people and I suspect you have as well that some of the people their purpose is to just enjoy their life That their purpose is to simply let their light shine. They're not here to So when we talk for instance about, you know, where my programs come from and they come from this very deep profound level, but What they all include is is what we call wholeness. It's that it's that underlying Unification of everything so that whatever so that if you're using one of my health programs It's not only helping your health, but it's also helping you come into sync with the totality of all that is so that you're in Flow with natural law and everything works out better for you and yours Okay, so some people simply embody that And and it doesn't matter what they do. They could be working in a bank They could be a cobbler. They could be buying groceries and their job is to let that light shine and for I want to say about four years ago, maybe four or five years ago I was told that I was that a whole number of what we'll call light workers But these people who are here to do good a whole bunch of them had lost their way And what that means is that a lot of us who came from other places were Floored when we got here that we had no idea it was going to be like this We withdrew within we got sidetracked as we grew up by commercials on tv we started really we started thinking that we're here to make money and that's not what we're here to do at all and so I was told to That we needed to start finding the lost light workers and remind them of who they were and what they're here to do Which is shine That's what a light worker does is you shine your light and some of us take roles as healers or developers or speakers or Giveers of wisdom and some of us really just need to embody that totality within us As if we're literally a light a bright light walking around And so the the invincible stars program was to take whatever level of Brightness that you had which in many cases in a lot of people was You know a 60 watt bulb or an 80 watt bulb Which sounds like not very much but when you compare it to the vast majority of the human race who are running at You know one candle lot at best and they spend half of their time snuffing that out by paying attention to the beer and drug commercials all the time So you get somebody like that and then the program was to make their light so bright That they would influence people miles away Even if they were just checking their mail you're gonna like the butterfly effect Butterfly can flap its wings in one country in half the world Later there could be some kind of storm that's created By was inspired Yes, but that's that's a great analogy of action at a distance except that in this case What we're doing by shining our light is enlivening those subtle levels that cause people to act More in accordance with natural law So we talked earlier about the Research that had been done when a large group of people were meditating crime went went down or these other things happened But if you look at the cities where crime rate went down or traffic accidents went down or during the Conflict in israel Several years ago. They used to be able to to count They used to be able to predict the war deaths by how many people were doing group program in israel They would know how many people would die because if they had a high number It would be low and if they had a low number doing the group coherence programs It would it would you know, the it conversely affected So what happens is These people are not going around and telling the criminals by the way, we're all meditating So you should stop being a criminal It's they're working from a very deep profound level that allows the people to just The fog in their mind to clear for instance the stresses in their body to dissipate So and this is where all our programs work from so it isn't that if you're trying to make a change and you know Oh, I've got an exercise. I've got exercise. That's a really hard one But if you're in line with who you are and if you're in line with health It's the easiest thing in the world. There's no inner resistance Absolutely. Yeah, you're talking about a resonance So if something is vibrating here There is a choice synergistically to also vibrate things don't usually stay here if they do that's pretty powerful To even make that choice, but often they will come here, right? And what we're saying is just what you're saying is keeping it low. This is shining. This is enlivening the level of Whether you want to call it transcendence or quantum field But it's this is people who are radiating this light are doing so unconsciously It doesn't matter whether they're taking a shower or yelling at their spouse They're still radiating this light But it's enlivening at a very deep level the fundamentals that allow us to actually act in accord with natural law Which we are part of So the invincible stars program was to help people You know really Breakthrough on that. Um, it's a premium program that that uh for a year And it was a group program It was a hundred thousand dollars for the year And then the brahman consciousness program is for people who have been Meditating for 30 years or more who understand what brahman consciousness is Okay Do you want me to go there? Well, I want to ask you because I want to follow this Can you say it quickly so that I want to make sure everybody gets that brahman consciousness But I have another question based on what you were just saying that is of interest to me So brahman, so here's the thing we all experience different states of consciousness every day We wake up which is waking state of consciousness. We go to sleep Which is a completely different state of consciousness and our experiences are completely different because in sleep there's nothing and then there's dreams which is Not waking and not sleeping and has particular qualities to it and all the laws of nature are different there so what happens is these are only three of Marishi called it Outline seven states of consciousness different teachers have different ways of delineating them But each of these states of consciousness have a completely different reality Experience and a completely different physiology So when we meditate and we transcend that's a fourth state of consciousness Because we're unlike sleep. We're completely awake within ourselves, but we're there's no object of attention so Brahman consciousness is that state where one is aware We talked about that unit the source of source or the unified field of pure awareness Brahman consciousness is that state where one owns that that is what slash who I am And also that is what slash everything else is and that is what slash The link between us is that I am totality And all of this manifest creation including the farthest star the farthest and the farthest galaxy is part of me And it's a life of continual flow and unprecedented bliss But I want to give you an idea when we talk about the difference between if you were to go To a person in sleep state of consciousness Who had never experienced anything other than sleep state of consciousness and you tried to describe your waking state to them And you tried to describe forms and colors and oceans and sky and sun and moon and body and eyes and ears that they're They have nothing to relate it to they have no concept of what you're talking about The difference between waking state and brahman is like 15 times that So it's a completely different way of functioning where every thought and action is completely in flow With everything in manifest creation where your desires First of all don't need to be because you're already fulfilled But your desires happen very spontaneously and effortlessly and we've all had those moments where things worked out spontaneously But this is like on a cosmic global scale So it's like will he want this chocolate factor you wake up and it's like I can have everything I want And you not only do you have it but you are it you are you are the chocolate I'm not even into chocolate. It's a funny analogy for me to use. Yeah, I always use ice cream But I know what you're saying so with you there You know first of all, I love what you said david about Oh gosh, this is so prevalent for me right now. So of course, it's perfect. You'd bring this up this Whole idea of being coming from another place another planet another dimension being an extra dimensional et whatever hybrid and It's so interesting because you know over the years I've had wittly streiber on the show and robert parell and bouchard and I love the conversation my god And at the same time, I've always been a you know, not really my thing something has changed really changed for me recently and I'm hungry And watching and listening and I have this woman coming on the show Who's very well known from amsterdam who channels An energy called our our june from yaya and bouchard is coming back on and this is like yeah This is what i'm ready to talk about So I love that you address that that feel that difference that feeling and getting off track and being derailed But coming back and you know like indigenously who we really are is the light worker so One of the things that you talk about is that the things we've done have gotten us thus far What we know has gotten us thus far in order but in order to get where we really want to go What we need to do is release the old and so I want to know from you. What are the new rules? What are the new rules that will get us where we really want to go next? In business and in our personal lives So good. So thank you for asking So the basic thing to understand is that we're going from a time in the world that if we go from the Vedic eastern From india the way that they categorize time. We're going from kala yuga Which is the shortest and the worst time where life is 25 in accord with natural law So we have a lot of suffering. We're going from so there's four Yugas epochs, whatever you want to call them ages according to to the indian scriptures the Vedic science and the first is sat yuga, which is the longest and you're 100 in tune with natural law There is effectively no suffering human life is a thousand years and we're useful for the whole time Um, it's you know, there's no sickness. There's no thievery because there's no need to everybody has everything Okay, and then there's another age That's three quarters another age that's half and then the kala yuga and they go for through sequence Um, so what happens is that we are now in the kala yuga stage But when it goes in sequence, it doesn't go from sat yuga to it doesn't go from 100 to 75 to 50 to 25 to 50 It goes from 100 to 75 to 50 natural law to 25 natural law to 100 It jumps all the way back. So this is a huge quantum It's a huge very dramatic shift that we're going through and we're going through it very quickly And we're going through it massively quickly Basically god, there's so much I'm going to say here. Okay one We're moving from a Newtonian based physics reality Which says you push something and it goes An object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an outside force everything is relative Everything is causal and we're going from that to a quantum unified field based reality Which we've already talked about that for no reason something can come into existence with backwards in time and um Go into two different directions that if you tickle unbounded this way over here on the right It lasts on the other side of satyr. You know, it's things can there's no causal relationship that the human mind can wrap itself around so The rules are different and we made a video that I'd love to share with your audience I will put it um I'll put it on the home page of peace and harmony co.com So they can just find it there and it outlines the new rules And we're actually going to be launching on monday a 12 lesson course on how to apply them But the five rules of the new age are I'm going to see if I can remember them in sequence one I want what I want and I get it two I do not try to figure it out because if I do I will slow down the process Three I you never think of anything that you don't want You have to avoid saying thinking anything that isn't what you want to experience Four is that and this will this will be listed somewhere And four is that whenever you have to struggle you come back to wholeness come back to source come back to connectedness and five is We must take very seriously never taking ourselves too seriously And though and that and there's a reason for all of them And there's there's more information on all of them and people started asking questions And that's why we're doing this um group program and it's uh, I haven't done anything less than these really expensive programs for several years Um The brahman consciousness program is 250 000 and the next people will have to pay 300 000 So these are this is normally what I do Except that the need for this was so great that it's going to be 199 dollars for this 12 week program one hour a week And um, we're going to go through things like I want what if I want What I want and I get it and this other person wants what they want and they get it But it's completely the opposite of what I want. How does that work out? But it does work out and there's things that you need to know about it such as Is is what you want what you want or is what you want what you saw in a Ford commercial So for just for an example So I'm in love with you. I want you to love me too Somebody else says yeah, I love you but like a friend like I don't feel that Exactly you're saying where where does that come out in the wash? And where did the download come from for the want for each? And what ensues in between right and so during exactly right So what's going to happen is that not only will we give in intellectual information? But we're going to start going in and clearing so that you can find When we talk about I want what I want and I get it. It's what your soul wants It's what you're really here to experience And we've all been distracted because look at the advertising budget and the money spent on this planet And in movies and product placement and everything you are being bombarded with information and sold a bill of goods Which says you will be fulfilled by XYZ so we need to clear all that and this virus is is happening I want to talk a little bit about the the amount of dramatic change that's happening And we just have a few minutes. So yes Uh, okay, so I'm going to end with this or whatever will go. Okay Normally when a planet reaches the stage that we've reached and humanity has destroyed this planet Okay, make no mistake. It is not in good shape. Right and Normally what happens when we go to make the level of shift that we're going to Basically, everybody gets wiped out And the original plan for earth was in the late 90s early 2000s Basically All but 600,000 people were going to be exhumed from the earth. So this was supposed to happen Almost 20 years ago. So is this like aka a replica of lemuria that was Supposed to re-happen or this is a whole different something something that was supposed to go down 20 years ago Don't know what lemuria is what that is Oh, okay ancient civilization on earth that basically destroyed itself. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so similar So the same thing to happens on all the different planets that when people blow it to when it gets too far out They the planet does a reset planet doesn't need us. We need to plan it So they do a reset just like we would if we get caught with a flu or whatever we go get a shot We take echinacea we do whatever we do and we just purge That population of whatever it is. So that was supposed to happen except that A whole bunch of beings probably every single one of people listening to this podcast said You know what what happens if we keep everybody if we keep the vast majority of the population alive And we move them all in transition into Heaven on earth into a golden age into whatever you want to call it. There is a story in The shreemad devi bhagavan tom, which is a book one of the piranhas one of the 18 piranhas in the Vedic literature Um, which talks about there's a king who's got a lovely kingdom. Everything is going good And he talks to the sage that he has and he says I'd like to everything's good. Everybody's happy in the kingdom. No problems Um, but when I die, I'd like to instead of dying. I'd like to just descend to heaven And he's told he can't do that Then we don't have time. So I'm not going to go into the whole coolness of the story But one thing after another after another and they're horrible. They're absolutely horrible things that happen to him Um, within starting about a week later And it takes him years to get out of it and at the end of the years to get out of it His son has died and he sold his wife and his son into Slavery to get money to pay for this thing. I lost all his money lost the kingdom all of this happened But at the end of it, he finally pays back this one It's for spiritual Program that he that he had done He finally pays that sage back and as soon as he pays that sage back He said, okay, you can have your kingdom back and here's your wife and by the way your son's fine and here's what's going on with him and And now you can ascend to heaven without dying And this is this is the very cool part because the king then says well Anything that a king accomplishes he accomplishes by the grace of all of his pop all of his Subjects, so I would like them all to ascend to heaven without dying And they said so be it tell everybody to get ready And so this whole this whole culture just rose to heaven without having to go through that horrible suffering So I really want to you know, what's going on in the world you and I both agree. It's a huge plus It's not a negative. It's to let go of fear It's to help people reorient what their true purpose is to get them out of the loop long enough to think about what they've done and to think about who they want to be and what life they'd want to live at and The big question that comes up is for those who know the old testament moses goes to egypt to free the israelites And first he asked and he's told no and then there's one plague and then another and he goes through 10 plagues And then finally at this very dramatic one the pharaoh says okay everybody can go And then even then he chases after them, but all of those people get wiped out So the question we have before us debbie is is this the pandemic or is this the first pandemic? To shea that's up to us. It's I know I Concur so much the choices you make right now. That's why I say stand for your greatness You know this it is meaningful. What's happening and the choices you make and who you know yourself to be Yeah, it's really time to step into your potency. So gosh, thank you so much I got to ask you because it's part of the show right here very quickly at the end david What are you next dear to dream? This is dear to dream. What are your future dreams and goals? Oh My current goal is to have thousands of these peace systems all over the world because that will really help It will calm people down and when we're calm we can see clearly we can think clearly and we're looking for you know A few thousand people actually 4200 people who want to get the bigger systems more than the free sample download Who will buy them and take responsibility for their? Neighbor their apartment building their neighborhood their community their town their state whatever they want to do come and put up a system and it'll just blast and You know think of think of these pockets of peace You know 4200 of them would be huge for the world And we should round it up to 5 000, but that's what that's what my big goal is and I'd love to do it this year Okay, so that's peace and harmony co Dot com and if you would like to experience the free download It is peace and harmony dot co dot com Do it for us, please The free sample is at peace and harmony download dot com and it's a video You just click and play it and let it loop in the background And don't try it thinking that you have to set some time aside and experience it for 10 or 15 minutes Turn it on let it play go do what you want Let it play for three or four days and if you're not sure it's doing anything turn it off and you will know Oh, yeah No doubt for real people David, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your brilliance. I really enjoyed this Thank you so much for having me. I I love talking to you as we've talked about before we could go on for days And I always love the opportunity to spend time with you So thank you so much and thank you for letting me share all this with your tribe And let's tell people because I was just recently on your show Let's tell people your podcast is so they can go listen to us you interviewing me Oh, here we come to save the day and we address different problems that people have and it's meant to be fun and enjoyable and Uh, and I love it because I'm learning a lot about it. I've learned that 90 Our vision is in the mind and not physically in the eyes and there's things you can do to fix your eyes How to get rid of brighter's block what you and I talked about which is the big getting rid of the big question That's that's in everybody's mind the big question mark over our head They're they're fun and they're and we loved having you and thank you Indeed check it out and what was interesting just as an aside here at the end of the show David was excited to show me this big system you're talking he's talking about with a television set and everything He turned everything around so I could watch it and we were in the middle of you know offline not being recorded conversation And at some point I went completely catatonic And he was trying to talk to me. I I was done. I this whatever was being emitted from this system He as I was done I need an affiliate link. That's all I can say because he literally had to direct me and say debbie Let's end Our time together just for now. I want you to go lay down. God was he right? I went and passed out on the sofa his stuff is powerful. So I'm going to really recommend you go check it out Thank you everybody for coming and listening to dear to dream if you love what you hear on the podcast Go see us. 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