How often do we talk to our student about their learning? Do we even consider this in our teaching? What and how do we teach our student? What is our teaching strategy? What is our student learning strategy? Do we spend time talking to our student about our teaching strategy and their learning strategy? In this presentation  I would like to talk about a teaching-based research project I have started this year examining the student learning strategy  which can and should inform better teaching strategy in Indonesian classes (BIPA)