Pairat, Please talk to Chaiyos as the problem was solved, it was due to the expiry of the licenses. Seen that everything is fine please proceed with confirmation of payment. Thanks, Daniel   From : Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent : Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:43 PM To : Daniel Maglietta Cc : Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com <Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com <Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com <Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com <Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com <Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com <Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>; eran.hadar@nice.com <eran.hadar@nice.com>; rsales; Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com <Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com <Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com>; Serge Woon; Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com <Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com> Subject : RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking   Dear Daniel,  We appreciate for your kind with advance support. We talk to khun Chaiyos.C, SAMART's Engineering guy at DOC site. He cannot to use default "admin" and "password" & another password of your DAP at DOC. It shows "Can not connect to server" at login prompt.  Please help us to fix this.         Regards, Pairat Suphanlimpakunof "Daniel Maglietta" <d.maglietta@hackingteam.com> 10/01/2013 06:02 PM Please respond to <d.maglietta@hackingteam.com> To <Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com> cc <Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <eran.hadar@nice.com>, "'rsales'" <rsales@hackingteam.com>, <Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com>, <Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com>, "'Serge Woon'" <s.woon@hackingteam.com>, <Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com> Subject RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Pairat,   After our brief call I have tried calling you another five times with no answer from you. I have read the e-mail several times together with Serge and we still can't understand the meaning. During our 1 minute call, you told me that your technical team is having problems in logging in the console, the user name is "admin" and the password is "password" (without quotes). Let me just clarify that by contractual terms, Samart is supposed to pay HT once the customer has signed the DAP, which has already happened, so please kindly settle the outstanding balance as you are already late.   Anyhow, we are more than happy to help you out with the problem, matter fact there is a support portal which is available 24/7 which you should use whenever you encounter a problem such as this one.   Please feel free to call me for any further information you may need and kindly advise once the payment is settled.   Thanks,     Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office   d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com   HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624   From: Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent: Tuesday, 1 October, 2013 5:15 PM To: d.maglietta@hackingteam.com Cc: Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com; Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com; eran.hadar@nice.com; 'rsales'; Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com; Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com; 'Serge Woon'; Cholthicha.P@samtel.samartcorp.com Subject: RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Importance: High   Dear Daniel,  Sorry for delayed reply.   Due to progress within the company. By now, the ability to acceptance between SAMART & DOC to check and corrections are not completed yet. They need to tested the hacking system at 10 site of prisons. and will not be compleate at all if Hacking Team was entitled to terminate the use of SAMARTemployees who may have been unable to make the remote access.  We appreciate want to Hacking Team to help our team to support, consult, remote access to fix a problem. and may come on-site to help at advanced within 1 year warranty period.    Kindly please help us to make the system work well for acceptant and document delivery to the following documents for your payment .   Best Regards, Pairat Suphanlimpakun Senior Technical Consultant Engineering Consultant Samart Comtech Company Limited 99/5 Moo.4 Software Park Building 20th floor., Chaengwattana road., Klong Gluar, Pak-Kred, Nonthaburi 11120, THAILAND. Tel : +66(0) 2502-8710 FAX : +66(0) 2502-6020 Mobile : +66(0) 8-5111-4825 "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 09/30/2013 03:53 PM Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > To < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < eran.hadar@nice.com >, "'rsales'" < rsales@hackingteam.com >, "'Serge Woon'" < s.woon@hackingteam.com >, < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking   Hi Chotika, Pairat,   Still no answer on your behalf. Can I kindly get an update from you on the remaining payment? I have attached it to you once again. The password to open the file is the last six digits of Visitcharoen's mobile phone number, I have also sent the password to both Pairat and Visitcharoen's phone number.   I look forward to receive your feedback.   Regards,   Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office   d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com   HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624   From: Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent: Thursday, 26 September, 2013 5:13 PM To: Daniel Maglietta Cc: 'Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'eran.hadar@nice.com'; 'Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com'; rsales; Serge Woon; 'Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com'; 'Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com' Subject: Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking   Hi Daniel, I already informed Khun Pairat to check the status for you. I do not have any information about this concern. Please wait for their response. Rgs, Visithcharoen Samart Daniel Maglietta < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 26/09/2013 13:39   To "'Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc "'Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'eran.hadar@nice.com'" < eran.hadar@nice.com >, "'Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >, rsales < rsales@hackingteam.com >, Serge Woon < s.woon@hackingteam.com >, "'Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking     Hi Visitchareon, I do not seemed to have received the second payment from you. Could you kindly update me on the payment status asap? Thanks, Daniel From : Daniel Maglietta Sent : Friday, September 20, 2013 01:36 PM To : 'Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > Cc : 'Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'eran.hadar@nice.com' < eran.hadar@nice.com >; 'Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >; rsales; Serge Woon; 'Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject : Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Visitcharoen, What is written in the file is correct. The training of 7 users to go in italy is insane, I said that serge will come to Bangkok to perform a training to the 7 users free of charge. If you want an advanced training in Italy it can be done, but this is obviously paid from your end. Daniel From : Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent : Friday, September 20, 2013 01:24 PM To : Daniel Maglietta Cc : 'Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'eran.hadar@nice.com' < eran.hadar@nice.com >; 'Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >; rsales; Serge Woon; 'Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com < Senee.S@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject : Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Hi Daniel, Thank you for supports as DAP performed to DOC yesterday. Note that HT Srl is committed to DOC's committee; 1. IPhone infections over-the air and Thai language feature development concerns as attachment issued by HT. 2. The offer of the second round training for 7 users at Italy by HT budget support. Regards, Visithcharoen Samart Daniel Maglietta < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 17/09/2013 18:09     To "'Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc "'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'eran.hadar@nice.com'" < eran.hadar@nice.com >, rsales < rsales@hackingteam.com >, Serge Woon < s.woon@hackingteam.com >, "'Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking     Can you send me your office address? From : Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent : Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:40 AM To : Daniel Maglietta Cc : 'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'eran.hadar@nice.com' < eran.hadar@nice.com >; rsales; Serge Woon; Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com < Anusorn.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com < Sathanu.T@samtel.samartcorp.com > Subject : Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Hi Daniel, I think DOC's committee cannot accept it. You have to understand that in the real situation, we could not have the WiFi or get the suspected prisoner's phone to do infection as your available feature. Please find the solution to close this open issue for us and let meet us at Samart 's office tommorrow, at 10:00 am. Rgs, Visithcharoen Samart Daniel Maglietta < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 17/09/2013 11:12     To "'Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc "'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'eran.hadar@nice.com'" < eran.hadar@nice.com >, rsales < rsales@hackingteam.com >, Serge Woon < s.woon@hackingteam.com > Subject Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking     Visitcharoen, Please read the several e-mails we sent you. Serge must have replied at least 3 e-mails. I also advise you to read once again the acceptance test document prepared by your team as ALL the criteria is fulfilled. Anyways I will tell you once again: The 'pending issue' about infection over 3G network is not within our control, we have demonstrated that it is able to do the infection within the Wi-fi environment, please in the meantime check again if these 'issues' are indicated at any point in the acceptance document. If you can't organize the pick up I will take a taxi, just send me the address. Daniel Maglietta From : Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent : Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:02 PM To : Daniel Maglietta Cc : 'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com' < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; 'eran.hadar@nice.com' < eran.hadar@nice.com >; rsales; Serge Woon Subject : Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Hi Daniel, As earlier informed about the 2nd pending issues, your team have to prove or do the demonstrate for Samart's team. Could your team take the taxi and see us at DOC's center ? Thanks, Visithcharoen Samart Daniel Maglietta < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 17/09/2013 10:51     To "'Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc "'Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com'" < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'eran.hadar@nice.com'" < eran.hadar@nice.com >, rsales < rsales@hackingteam.com >, Serge Woon < s.woon@hackingteam.com > Subject Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking   Visitcharoen, What demo are you talking about? Who will be doing the demo too? Please arrange pick up from Conrad hotel. Thanks From : Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent : Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:38 AM To : Daniel Maglietta Cc : Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; eran.hadar@nice.com < eran.hadar@nice.com >; rsales; Serge Woon Subject : RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Hi Daniel, As agreed, we will meet your team tomorrow. Please see us at 10:00 AM, at DOC's center that your team can demonstrate the system, there Look forward to see you and your team. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 13/09/2013 11:27   Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >     To < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < eran.hadar@nice.com >, < rsales@hackingteam.com >, "'Serge Woon'" < serge@hackingteam.com > Subject RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking   Ok, I will let you know our flight schedule once its confirmed. Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent: Friday, 13 September, 2013 12:16 PM To: d.maglietta@hackingteam.com Cc: Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; eran.hadar@nice.com ; rsales@hackingteam.com ; 'Serge Woon' Subject: RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Hi Daniel, It will be afternoon period that DAP start doing from 1:00 PM as they planned. Please let your team prepare the test for demonstration of the pending issues. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 13/09/2013 10:29     Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >     To < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < eran.hadar@nice.com >, < rsales@hackingteam.com >, "'Serge Woon'" < serge@hackingteam.com > Subject RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking       Ok, we will be in Bangkok one day earlier to meet face to face. With regards to the 19 September do you know what time it will start and what time it will end? The last flight from Bangkok to Singapore leaves at 19:40 so let's please start the earliest possible in order to end by 4:30 pm. Thanks, Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent: Friday, 13 September, 2013 11:12 AM To: d.maglietta@hackingteam.com Cc: Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; eran.hadar@nice.com ; rsales@hackingteam.com ; 'Serge Woon' Subject: RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Dear Daniel I attached the DOC's schedule in Thai, see the item No.1, 19/9/2013 that I got the confirmation from them yesterday. The pending issues need to discuss with our team face to face at our office,please arrange your time here, in Bangkok. If possible, let meet us before DAP schedule. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 13/09/2013 09:18       Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >       To < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < eran.hadar@nice.com >, < rsales@hackingteam.com >, "'Serge Woon'" < serge@hackingteam.com > Subject RE: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking         Hi Visitcharoen, Ok we can make it on 19/09 this means you are 100% sure that the person entitled to sign the DAP will also be there, right? If this is the case confirm with the client the meeting. Also, Serge has asked you and your colleagues to have a conference call yesterday to discuss these 'pending issues' you continue to mention but it seems as the miscommunication issue still plays a key role. If you are really interested in solving the concerns it is advisable that your team sets aside sometime to communicate with Serge if not please don't bring up these 'pending issues' anymore. Serge is available to further discuss today at 2 pm Bangkok time. Thanks, Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Sent: Thursday, 12 September, 2013 7:22 PM To: d.maglietta@hackingteam.com Cc: Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; eran.hadar@nice.com ; rsales@hackingteam.com ; Serge Woon Subject: Re: The confirmation of DAP schedule: Mobile Hacking Dear Daniel, Today, I met the chairman of DOC's committee to get confirmed the DAP date. Here, this is the confirmed schedule,19/9/2013 that they are available. Please confirm us shortly. Thank you, Visithcharoen PM On Sep 11, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Visithcharoen Chauhor" < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com > wrote: Hi Deniel, As they informed, yes, it is the confirmed date. But let me get something solid about this confirmation and I will get back to you again on Friday. Refer to the pending issues, you have to understand that the end of user expected to have the confortable solutions for their usage. I think the 1 st issue can be accepted because you have the development plan, but the second one, it is hard to accept it that your system could not do to the target iOS platform as eariler informed. Please work around for them. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >   "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 11/09/2013 14:28         Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >         To < Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < eran.hadar@nice.com > cc < Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >, < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >, "'Serge Woon'" < serge@hackingteam.com >, < rsales@hackingteam.com > Subject RE: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking           Hi Visitcharoen, Is the 9/10/2013 a confirmed date? Currently on that date I have another engagement, however if this is 100% confirmed I will try to shift this the other engagement. With regards to the 'pending issues', Serge has already replied to your colleagues several times so no further explanation is required. Please let me know asap if the date is confirmed 100%. Thanks, Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com [ mailto:Visithcharoen.C@samtel.samartcorp.com ] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September, 2013 3:01 PM To: Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; d.maglietta@hackingteam.com ; eran.hadar@nice.com Cc: Chaiporn.P@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Charung.K@samtel.samartcorp.com ; Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com Subject: RE: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking Dear Daniel, Terribly sorry for the dalyed response for DAP confirmation schedule. I got informed by the DOC's committee today that they will have the schedule for DAP with your team on 9/10/2013, because they have to do the onsite inspection for the interception system for 10 sites during date 16/9/2013-4/10/2013 for our official submission. Note that please find the solutions for the pending issues to response the DOC's committee while your team are doing DAP as date mentioned. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart Chotika Kamloonwesaruch/Samtel/Samartcorp 10/09/2013 09:22         To < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >, Visithcharoen Chauhor/Samtel/Samartcorp@SAMART cc eran.hadar@nice.com Subject RE: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking           Dear Daniel, Please be patient, our customer is government, they have process and we have to follow him. I also would like to deliver as soon as possible, Khun Visitecahroen will confirm you for the appointment date within this week. Thanks, Chotika "Daniel Maglietta" < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > 09/09/2013 02:10 PM           Please respond to < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com >         To < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com > cc "'Eran.Hadar'" < Eran.Hadar@nice.com >, "'rsales'" < rsales@hackingteam.com > Subject RE: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking           Hi Chotika, Could you let us know how things are proceeding and if Samart has organized the second part of the DAP with the customer? It's been ten days now. Thanks, Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Daniel Maglietta Sent: Friday, 6 September, 2013 11:11 AM To: 'Visithcharoen.C' Cc: 'Chaiyos.C'; 'Chotika.K'; 'Eran.Hadar'; 'Nir.Ovadia'; 'Pairat.S'; 'rsales'; 's.iannelli'; 'Serge Woon' Subject: RE: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking Visitcharoen, One week has gone by and I still have not received an update on when we will meet DOC to finish the DAP. Can you please update me on when this will take place? Daniel Maglietta Chief of HT Singapore Representative Office d.maglietta@hackingteam.com mobile: +6591273560 www.hackingteam.com HT Srl UOB Plaza 1 80 Raffles Place Level 35-25 Singapore 048624 From: Serge Woon Sent: Tuesday, 3 September, 2013 6:40 PM To: Visithcharoen.C; d.maglietta Cc: Chaiyos.C; Chotika.K; Eran.Hadar; Nir.Ovadia; Pairat.S; rsales; s.iannelli Subject: Re: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking Visithcharoen, Can you show me where in the compliance document we have to support the 2 points? Moreover for the 2nd point, we have no control over the ip address (dynamic or static) and what ports are allowed as its allocated by the service provider. To summarize, these 2 "issues" you mentioned are not even issues. The 1st point I can accept it as a feature request and we are planning to support it Q1 or Q2 next year. The 2nd point is a constraint from the service provider. As demonstrated, there are also physical infection or infection over Wifi which the customer can use. -- Serge Woon Senior Security Consultant Sent from my mobile. From : Sent : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:12 PM To : Daniel Maglietta < d.maglietta@hackingteam.com > Cc : < Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com >; < Chotika.K@samtel.samartcorp.com >; Eran.Hadar' < Eran.Hadar@nice.com >; Nir.Ovadia' < Nir.Ovadia@nice.com >; < Pairat.S@samtel.samartcorp.com >; rsales' < rsales@hackingteam.com >; Stefania Iannelli < s.iannelli@hackingteam.com >; Serge Woon < s.woon@hackingteam.com > Subject : Fw: DoC : ตรวจรับการทำงานของระบบ Mobile Hacking Dear Daniel, The forwarded mail as Mr. Chaiyos noted, it seems to be some pending issues that need to be fixed before submission to the end of user, DOC. Please clarify these issues. Thank you, Visithcharoen Samart ----- Forwarded by Visithcharoen Chauhor/Samtel/Samartcorp on 03/09/2013 16:56 ----- Chaiyos Choti/Samtel/Samartcorp 03/09/2013 16:51           To Visithcharoen Chauhor/Samtel/Samartcorp@SAMART cc Subject Re: DoC : ?????????????????????? Mobile Hacking Link             To K.Visithcharoen, Important issues about the RCS Software. 1. Can't send SMS using THAI language with the RCS Software, Which requires a AirCard Watcher Program to help has come up with the program for connect aircard is SMS express. 2. The iOS operating system of the iPhone demonstration for copy a folder to the target mobile phone with using 3G network connected to the Public IP Address of the target mobile phone with the WinSCP Program does not work, but can be connected via WiFi to the Private IP Address with using the WinSCP Program can do. Please find evidence the issue in attached file, Thank you, Chaiyos Choti SAMART COMMUNICATION SERVICES CO.,LTD. 99/7 Software Park Building., Chaengwattha Rd, Klong Gleua, Pakkred, Nonthaburi 11120, Thailand Mobile.(668) 5070-5168 E-mail : Chaiyos.C@samtel.samartcorp.com -----Pairat Suphanlimpakun/Samtel/Samartcorp wrote: ----- To: Chaiyos Choti/Samtel/Samartcorp From: Pairat Suphanlimpakun/Samtel/Samartcorp Date: 08/29/2013 11:26AM cc: Visithcharoen Chauhor/Samtel/Samartcorp, Anusorn Kanusattayanond/Samtel/Samartcorp, Chotika Kamloonwesaruch/Samtel/Samartcorp, Sathanu Toeaditep/Samtel/Samartcorp, kunakorn.tum Subject: Re: DoC : ?????????????????????? Mobile Hacking ???????? ???? ???????? ??????????????? hacking Team ????????????? ??????????? 1. ?????????? Agent ??????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? Agent ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????? Mobile Hacking ?????????? 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Agent ????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? RCS ? ???????? 4. ?????????? Agent ??????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ?????? 4.1 Camera snapshot not support with the Blackberry, Android and Symbian ???????????????????????????????? RCS ??????????? version ??? platform ??? Smart Phone 4.2 Email not support with the Android and iOS ???????????????????????????????? RCS ??????????? version ??? platform ??? Smart Phone 4.3 Call logging not support with the Android ???????????????????????????????? RCS ??????????? version ??? platform ??? Smart Phone 5. ?????????????? Symbian S60 5th Edition ???????????????????? Certificate ??? NOKIA Developer ?????????????????? Proposal ????? 7.3 ??????? 38-39 ?????? ????? ????????????? Pairat Suphanlimpakun Senior Technical Consultant Engineering Consultant Samart Comtech Company Limited 99/5 Moo.4 Software Park Building 20th floor., Chaengwattana road., Klong Gluar, Pak-Kred, Nonthaburi 11120, THAILAND. Tel : +66(0) 2502-8710 FAX : +66(0) 2502-6020 Mobile : +66(0) 8-5111-4825 (See attached file: Section 7.3 - Mobile Hacking System.pdf) Chaiyos Choti/Samtel/Samartcorp Chaiyos Choti/Samtel/Samartcorp 08/28/2013 11:58 PM           To Pairat Suphanlimpakun/Samtel/Samartcorp@SAMART cc Visithcharoen Chauhor/Samtel/Samartcorp@SAMART, Chaiyos Choti/Samtel/Samartcorp@SAMART Subject DoC : ?????????????????????? Mobile Hacking             ????? ???????? ??????????????????????????????? Mobile Hacking ????????? Hacking Team ?????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????(HT_SW_DoC_Compliance_DAT_2013-08-23_v2) ???????????????? ??????????? 1. ?????????? Agent ??????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? Agent ??????????????????????????? 2. ??????????????????????????????????????????? Android ??? iOS ?????????????????????? Root ??? Jailbreak ???????????? ???????????????????????????????????????? Agent ??? ?????? 2.1 The Android operating system support version 4.1 or below 2.2 The Blackberry operating system support version 7.1 or below 2.3 The iOS operating system support version 5.1.1 or below 2.4 The Symbian operating system support version Symbian3 or below 3. ???????????????????????????? Link URL ??? SMS ???????????????????????????? Agent ????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? 4. ?????????? 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Eystein can you also check that Fortunat is addressing the few comments (ie revising the text) that relate to his bit of my section and Henry Pollack is helping us to asses the comments and revise the text to do with the Ground Surface Temperature section. I presume Ricardo and Peck are dealing with all the regional stuff. Thanks At 17:32 03/02/2006, you wrote: Hi, I can contact Oerlemans, have met him a few times. Cheers, Eystein thanks for this - the new runs I think best in a separate panel . Keith At 16:44 03/02/2006, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: Hi Keith and Tim (and Eystein): Your new figure is quite compelling, and a nice complement to the other two panels. I agree it would be good to get the Northern Hem Oerleman's plot - Eystein do you know him well enough to ask? (I never even met him, but could ask if you don't know him). What you have created will take some good work on the caption to explain, but it has my vote. What is your plan for dealing with the new German/Swiss model results? A new figure? Are you sure these runs can't be worked in, perhaps as a new panel? At least we have Susan's support for the new runs, so we do what we have to do. As for work and time, we are running out. Just do the best you can, and hopefully the new section will emerge sometime next week. Highest priority (please do first) - we need 3 TS-contender figures (and captions) by early next week: 1) the new fig showing all the sites used in the recons - with caption 2) the fig you've attached to this email - with caption (were we going to try to put all the model runs/refs/color key into a table, so the caption could be shorter than in the FOD? Think this would be better, so caption is shorter) 3) the new fig comparing the obs to the model runs (update of the fig we showed for first time in ChCh - using a version of the lower panel you attached to this email - with caption There is little doubt you guys have the hardest job of all LAs in our chapter, and possibly the entire WG1 report. Your work will have huge impact, and the extra effort is really appreciated well beyond me and Eystein. I wish we could offer up a time machine to make it easier, but... just keep plugging. thanks! Peck Peck and Eystein we are having trouble to express the real message of the reconstructions - being scientifically sound in representing uncertainty , while still getting the crux of the information across clearly. It is not right to ignore uncertainty, but expressing this merely in an arbitrary way (and as a total range as before) allows the uncertainty to swamp the magnitude of the changes through time . We have settled on this version (attached) of the Figure which we hoe you will agree gets the message over but with the rigor required for such an important document. We have added a box to show the "probability surface" for the most likely estimate of past temperatures based on all published data. By overlapping all reconstructions and giving a score of 2 to all areas within the 1 standard error range of the estimates for each reconstruction , and a score of 1 for the area between 1 and 2 standard errors, you build up a composite picture of the most likely or "concensus" path that temperatures took over the last 1200 years (note - now with a linear time axis). This still shows the outlier ranges , preserving all the information, but you see the central most likely area well , and the comparison of past and recent temperature levels is not as influenced by the outlier estimates. What do you think? We have experimented with different versions of the shading and this one shows up quite well - but we may have to use some all grey version as the background to the overlay of the model results. We have also experimented with changing the normalisation base for the model/reconstruction Figure , but using the same short modern period as for the first Figure is not satisfactory - more on this later. We have added in Oerlemans curve as many insisted - but we only have the GLOBAL curve - can you get the separate North and Southern Hemisphere curves (with uncertainty) . I do not see that the new model runs from Germany/Switzerland will fit easily in the existing Figure and need to be separate! I am really struggling with the text also - really need more time!!!! More later Keith X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:42:15 +0000 To: Keith Briffa From: Tim Osborn Subject: new fig Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [1]~timo/ sunclock: [2]~timo/sunclock.htm -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [3] Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:ipcc_nhrecon_new1.pdf (PDF /«IC») (0010B41B) -- Jonathan T. Overpeck Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth Professor, Department of Geosciences Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences Mail and Fedex Address: Institute for the Study of Planet Earth 715 N. 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Kevin - ah yes, good fun. Talked w/ Susan about some of this, and we're hoping that Keith Briffa might be able to participate in "Cluster B" while the rest of our chap 6 team discusses things that bore Keith. I'll forward this to relevant chap 6 folks. Thx, Peck Jon FYI wrt Beijing and overlap issues with chapter 6. You may find some exchanges of interest as well. Kevin -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: WG1 LA2 meeting - Overlap cluster A Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:12:41 +0100 From: Phil Jones To: Kevin Trenberth References: Kevin, Right on ! Assumes precip doesn't change - i.e. it's constant. Difficult to do much more for some regions, but could do a lot better for the Alps. Ch 4 has swallowed this hook, line and sinker and it is really a Ch 6 issue. Ch 6 wasn't even aware of it. Can't decide who on Ch 4 knew about it as Oerlemans isn't there and the Swiss Glacier people didn't know about the paper 2 weeks ago when I saw them. I like the curve as does Mike Mann, but its not for any scientific reason. Any jury is still out on whether this is right, but I'm glad someone has tried the approach. It is a quantification of what people have assumed, but there likely isn't enough detail in the paper to show how it was done. I've not seen this paper in a proper issue of Science yet. As such I've not been able to get the supporting material. This paper is totally independent of all other paleo work. It is much better science than Mobeg et al. in Nature in February. Susan has been sending a few emails to Ch 6 about how to display the various millennium series - some of which she's not thought through. Just be glad we haven't got paleo in out chapter ! Cheers Phil At 16:20 20/04/2005, you wrote: Hi Phil I had not read Oerleman's paper, I have now. Some things don't make sense to me: chanes in precip not included and the time series (esp N America) Also magnitude of implied early 20Th C warming. What is your take? Kevin Phil Jones wrote: Dear All, In addition to Kevin's comments and from a quickish look through parts of Chapters 4, 6 and 9, here are a few suggestions. First for best use of time, I would suggest that Cluster B gets broken into two parts. Basically separating off the overlap with the paleo and instrumental record including borehole temperatures and glacier length changes from the sea ice/SST, snow/temperature. OHC/SST, salinity/precip and SLR etc. The latter can be dealt with by Chs 5, 3 and 4. The former is really for 6, 3 and 4. Issues for 3 and 6 are the interface of the instrumental and paleo records, particularly how the early 19th century is dealt with. This period of instrumental records is believed by many in the paleo community not to exist, but in Europe and a few other regions it exists back in good order to the late 18th century. The 19th century is, I believe, the key to resolving much of the discussion about the millennium. Much more should be made of this period when comparisons with long forced GCM runs are analyzed. Europe may be a small continent, but the 200-250 year 'perfect proxy' records (which have all seasons!) need to be studied more. As any conclusions relate to Ch 6, the main text should be there, with perhaps a box on the early instrumental period in Ch 3. Somewhat related to the above, Ch 4 has a section on the recent Oerlemans (2005) work - attached for reference. Mike Mann sent me a figure (see jpg) comparing this with most other reconstructions of parts of the millennium. It seems that this piece of work should be with all the others in Ch 6 and not Ch 4. When producing plots like this getting the right base level is crucial - not just for Oerlemans' series, but also for the boreholes. Also, the degree of smoothing and the y-scale used can easily determine the takeaway message. Chapter 9 has an interest in both these issues. Finally, there is one other issue. Do we want to consider having a web site (distributed?) where the data for some selected time series can be downloaded from - not just the smoothed/plotted series, but on the original timescale as well. This possibly comes back also to a consistent way of smoothing time series. Cheers Phil At 08:11 20/04/2005, Peter Lemke wrote: Dear Martin, I am also willing to co-chair the cluster B. (As always) Kevin has done a very good job in listing the most important issues. Therefore, I have nothing to add at the moment. I will think about this on the weekend. Best regards, Peter Kevin Trenberth schrieb: Hi Martin Yes I will do this. Firstly on cluster A: I/we have an issue which is: what about changes in radiative forcing from water vapor (or feedback if you prefer), it is of order 1 W m-2. So this relates to water vapor changes in chapter 3. Cluster B: Consistency in observed climate change: atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere. This may also extend to paleo, chapter 6. Issues: *Consistency of:* * sea ice with SST * snow cover with snowfall and temperature * glacier melting and permafrost changes vs temperatures * borehole temperatures, glacier changes and paleo record * overlap between paleo record and instrumental record * salinity vs precipitation * ocean heat content with SST and surface fluxes * sea level rise as an integrator: ocean expansion, melting of land ice, increased water storage on land, and changes in TOA radiation (presumably led by Chapter 5.) Issues consist of use of consistent temperature and precipitation records (don't use NCEP surface temperatures as in Ch 4 CQ). Points of contention: 1) consistency 2) overlap and redundancy 3) where to place integrated assessment? * sea level: Chapter 5 * snow, ice, temperature chapter 3 section 3.9 * paleo record vs instrumental chapter 6 * overall view including sea level chapter 3, in 3.9 * T increase (land, SST, subsurface ocean), snow retreat, sea ice retreat, thinning, freezing season shorter, glacier melt, sea level rise. * Precip changes, drought, salinity, ocean currents, P-E, snowfall. Please see the draft of 3.9. So in terms of the agenda, the main points are: 1) Ensuring consistency among variables across chapters 2) Agreement on which chapter and what person will handle what, and in particular, that 3.9 will have a look ahead aspect to the chapters that follow. The above points could all be briefly on the table with the focus on cross-chapter issues. Desirable to circulate draft section 3.9 (1 page). Peter may wish to add or change this? Regards Kevin Martin Manning wrote: Dear Kevin and Peter Please find attached our current program for the second Lead Author meeting on May 10 - 12. We will shortly be sending out some more details on the plans for the meeting and in particular would like to clarify what needs to be done in the Overlap Cluster meetings shown in the program on Wednesday 11th. This is to ask if you would be prepared to jointly co-chair the session on Overlap Cluster B dealing with "Consistency in covering observed climate change" and which will involve discussion among chapters 3, 4, 5, 9 and 11. The attached program lists, on the last page, overlap / consistency areas that have been mentioned in the ZOD. We would really be most grateful for your assistance in this, and if you agree, we would like to ask that you each to specify what in your view would be the 2 or 3 most important issues to resolve during the overlap cluster session. We will then use your input to draw up a specific agenda and circulate agendas for all overlap clusters to all CLAs prior to the meeting. We hope in this way that we can reach a shared understanding of the most important overlap and consistency issues and the corresponding key decisions that will have to be made in Beijing. I would be grateful if you could let me know whether you are able to help us with this by Wednesday 20th. Regards Martin -- *Recommended Email address: mmanning@al.noaa.gov *** Please note that problems may occur with my @noaa.gov address Dr Martin R Manning, Director, IPCC WG I Support Unit NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory Phone: +1 303 497 4479 325 Broadway, DSRC R/AL8 Fax: +1 303 497 5628 Boulder, CO 80305, USA -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 -- **************************************************** Prof. Dr. Peter Lemke Alfred-Wegener-Institute for Polar and Marine Research Postfach 120161 27515 Bremerhaven GERMANY e-mail: plemke@awi-bremerhaven.de Phone: ++49 (0)471 - 4831 - 1751/1750 FAX: ++49 (0)471 - 4831 - 1797 **************************************************** Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1fde5ff.jpg -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 Jon FYI wrt Beijing and overlap issues with chapter 6. You may find some exchanges of interest as well. Kevin -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: WG1 LA2 meeting - Overlap cluster A Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:12:41 +0100 From: Phil Jones [1] To: Kevin Trenberth [2] References: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Kevin, Right on ! Assumes precip doesn't change - i.e. it's constant. Difficult to do much more for some regions, but could do a lot better for the Alps. Ch 4 has swallowed this hook, line and sinker and it is really a Ch 6 issue. Ch 6 wasn't even aware of it. Can't decide who on Ch 4 knew about it as Oerlemans isn't there and the Swiss Glacier people didn't know about the paper 2 weeks ago when I saw them. I like the curve as does Mike Mann, but its not for any scientific reason. Any jury is still out on whether this is right, but I'm glad someone has tried the approach. It is a quantification of what people have assumed, but there likely isn't enough detail in the paper to show how it was done. I've not seen this paper in a proper issue of Science yet. As such I've not been able to get the supporting material. This paper is totally independent of all other paleo work. It is much better science than Mobeg et al. in Nature in February. Susan has been sending a few emails to Ch 6 about how to display the various millennium series - some of which she's not thought through. Just be glad we haven't got paleo in out chapter ! Cheers Phil At 16:20 20/04/2005, you wrote: Hi Phil I had not read Oerleman's paper, I have now. Some things don't make sense to me: chanes in precip not included and the time series (esp N America) Also magnitude of implied early 20Th C warming. What is your take? Kevin Phil Jones wrote: Dear All, In addition to Kevin's comments and from a quickish look through parts of Chapters 4, 6 and 9, here are a few suggestions. First for best use of time, I would suggest that Cluster B gets broken into two parts. Basically separating off the overlap with the paleo and instrumental record including borehole temperatures and glacier length changes from the sea ice/SST, snow/temperature. OHC/SST, salinity/precip and SLR etc. The latter can be dealt with by Chs 5, 3 and 4. The former is really for 6, 3 and 4. Issues for 3 and 6 are the interface of the instrumental and paleo records, particularly how the early 19th century is dealt with. This period of instrumental records is believed by many in the paleo community not to exist, but in Europe and a few other regions it exists back in good order to the late 18th century. The 19th century is, I believe, the key to resolving much of the discussion about the millennium. Much more should be made of this period when comparisons with long forced GCM runs are analyzed. Europe may be a small continent, but the 200-250 year 'perfect proxy' records (which have all seasons!) need to be studied more. As any conclusions relate to Ch 6, the main text should be there, with perhaps a box on the early instrumental period in Ch 3. Somewhat related to the above, Ch 4 has a section on the recent Oerlemans (2005) work - attached for reference. Mike Mann sent me a figure (see jpg) comparing this with most other reconstructions of parts of the millennium. It seems that this piece of work should be with all the others in Ch 6 and not Ch 4. When producing plots like this getting the right base level is crucial - not just for Oerlemans' series, but also for the boreholes. Also, the degree of smoothing and the y-scale used can easily determine the takeaway message. Chapter 9 has an interest in both these issues. Finally, there is one other issue. Do we want to consider having a web site (distributed?) where the data for some selected time series can be downloaded from - not just the smoothed/plotted series, but on the original timescale as well. This possibly comes back also to a consistent way of smoothing time series. Cheers Phil At 08:11 20/04/2005, Peter Lemke wrote: Dear Martin, I am also willing to co-chair the cluster B. (As always) Kevin has done a very good job in listing the most important issues. Therefore, I have nothing to add at the moment. I will think about this on the weekend. Best regards, Peter Kevin Trenberth schrieb: Hi Martin Yes I will do this. Firstly on cluster A: I/we have an issue which is: what about changes in radiative forcing from water vapor (or feedback if you prefer), it is of order 1 W m-2. So this relates to water vapor changes in chapter 3. Cluster B: Consistency in observed climate change: atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere. This may also extend to paleo, chapter 6. Issues: *Consistency of:* * sea ice with SST * snow cover with snowfall and temperature * glacier melting and permafrost changes vs temperatures * borehole temperatures, glacier changes and paleo record * overlap between paleo record and instrumental record * salinity vs precipitation * ocean heat content with SST and surface fluxes * sea level rise as an integrator: ocean expansion, melting of land ice, increased water storage on land, and changes in TOA radiation (presumably led by Chapter 5.) Issues consist of use of consistent temperature and precipitation records (don't use NCEP surface temperatures as in Ch 4 CQ). Points of contention: 1) consistency 2) overlap and redundancy 3) where to place integrated assessment? * sea level: Chapter 5 * snow, ice, temperature chapter 3 section 3.9 * paleo record vs instrumental chapter 6 * overall view including sea level chapter 3, in 3.9 * T increase (land, SST, subsurface ocean), snow retreat, sea ice retreat, thinning, freezing season shorter, glacier melt, sea level rise. * Precip changes, drought, salinity, ocean currents, P-E, snowfall. Please see the draft of 3.9. So in terms of the agenda, the main points are: 1) Ensuring consistency among variables across chapters 2) Agreement on which chapter and what person will handle what, and in particular, that 3.9 will have a look ahead aspect to the chapters that follow. The above points could all be briefly on the table with the focus on cross-chapter issues. Desirable to circulate draft section 3.9 (1 page). Peter may wish to add or change this? Regards Kevin Martin Manning wrote: Dear Kevin and Peter Please find attached our current program for the second Lead Author meeting on May 10 - 12. We will shortly be sending out some more details on the plans for the meeting and in particular would like to clarify what needs to be done in the Overlap Cluster meetings shown in the program on Wednesday 11th. This is to ask if you would be prepared to jointly co-chair the session on Overlap Cluster B dealing with "Consistency in covering observed climate change" and which will involve discussion among chapters 3, 4, 5, 9 and 11. The attached program lists, on the last page, overlap / consistency areas that have been mentioned in the ZOD. We would really be most grateful for your assistance in this, and if you agree, we would like to ask that you each to specify what in your view would be the 2 or 3 most important issues to resolve during the overlap cluster session. We will then use your input to draw up a specific agenda and circulate agendas for all overlap clusters to all CLAs prior to the meeting. We hope in this way that we can reach a shared understanding of the most important overlap and consistency issues and the corresponding key decisions that will have to be made in Beijing. I would be grateful if you could let me know whether you are able to help us with this by Wednesday 20th. Regards Martin -- *Recommended Email address: [8]mmanning@al.noaa.gov *** Please note that problems may occur with my @noaa.gov address Dr Martin R Manning, Director, IPCC WG I Support Unit NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory Phone: +1 303 497 4479 325 Broadway, DSRC R/AL8 Fax: +1 303 497 5628 Boulder, CO 80305, USA -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: [9]trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR [10]www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 -- **************************************************** Prof. Dr. Peter Lemke Alfred-Wegener-Institute for Polar and Marine Research Postfach 120161 27515 Bremerhaven GERMANY e-mail: [11]plemke@awi-bremerhaven.de Phone: ++49 (0)471 - 4831 - 1751/1750 FAX: ++49 (0)471 - 4831 - 1797 [12] **************************************************** Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [13]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Untitled 2 -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: [14]trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR [15]www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. 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Guys, A final revised version attached. I'm expecting the embargo to lift at midnight east coast U.S., but let me know if you hear otherwise. I will make sure the science website has posted the paper before posting myself... mike Tim Osborn wrote: > Hi Mike, > > thanks for putting this together, Mike. It is a nice summary plus > drawing out of the important strands etc. I especially like "might be > likened in shape to a certain implement used in a popular North > American winter sport" - Keith thinks you must mean a "ski"? > > The only negative thing I have to say is that you get in a couple of > "digs" at the sceptics which might unnecessarily rankle readers. e.g. > *astronomers* Soon and Baliunas; *unbridled* cherry picking. Still, > it's your name that's attached to this piece, so it's up to you to dig > if you want. > > Cheers and thanks again > > Tim > > At 13:42 09/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> Maybe Science can still fix (at least, the online version?). I >> wouldn't lose sleep over this though. As typos go, its relatively minor. >> >> I must confess that I scavanged a figure off your page proofs. As the >> piece won't go online until after the article goes up on Science's >> website, shouldn't matter what the source was though... >> >> I've attached the piece in word format. Hyperlinks are still there, >> but not clickable in word format. I've already given it a good >> go-over w/ Gavin, Stefan, and William Connelley (our internal "peer >> review" process at RC), so I think its in pretty good shape. Let me >> know if any comments... >> >> thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> Tim Osborn wrote: >> >>> Bugger. You read and re-read the manuscript and the proofs and >>> *still* you miss things! Yes, it should be 1856. Thanks for >>> spotting this. >>> >>> I didn't reply yet about RealClimate because I thought Keith or I >>> would have to prepare something and wasn't sure if we'd have time >>> (IPCC deadlines!), but as you've done the work instead, that's great >>> - though we'd like to see it beforehand if possible. Did you >>> need/want a copy of a figure or have you got hold of one from >>> Science/journalist? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> At 19:53 08/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote: >>> >>>> Tim/Keith, >>>> >>>> I've worked up an article for RC to go online when the embargo is >>>> lifted. Will send later when finalized. One issue came up in an >>>> interview w/ a writer at Science, and I didn't know the answer. Is >>>> the shorter reference period you mention in caption of fig 3 really >>>> 1865, or is that a typo (i.e., supposed to be 1856). I couldn't >>>> think of a reason for why the latter date would be used, and >>>> guessed that "65" just got transposed accidentally? Please let me >>>> know if you can what the answer is. Its a minor point, but nice to >>>> get things right if possible... >>>> >>>> mike >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael E. Mann >>>> Associate Professor >>>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) >>>> >>>> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 >>>> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 >>>> The Pennsylvania State University email: >>>> mann@psu.edu >>>> University Park, PA 16802-5013 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Timothy J Osborn >>> Climatic Research Unit >>> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia >>> Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK >>> >>> e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >>> phone: +44 1603 592089 >>> fax: +44 1603 507784 >>> web: >>> ~timo/ >>> sunclock: >>> ~timo/sunclock.htm >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael E. Mann >> Associate Professor >> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) >> >> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 >> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 >> The Pennsylvania State University email: >> mann@psu.edu >> University Park, PA 16802-5013 >> >> >> >> > > Dr Timothy J Osborn > Climatic Research Unit > School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia > Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK > > e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk > phone: +44 1603 592089 > fax: +44 1603 507784 > web: ~timo/ > sunclock: ~timo/sunclock.htm > -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\OsbornBriffa06Post1.doc"


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Thoughts. Jordan Kaplan National Finance Director Democratic National Committee (202) 488-5002 (o) | (312) 339-0224 (c) kaplanj@dnc.org Begin forwarded message: From: "Dacey, Amy" > Date: May 24, 2016 at 8:42:48 PM EDT To: "Miranda, Luis" >, "Kaplan, Jordan" > Subject: Re: Burger King Hi Luis I'm adding Jordan to see if there has been any fundraising ask to them so far.. Luis if spicer is doing for RNC seems like you might be best rep.. I leave it to you guys to see if opportunity for us Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Miranda, Luis > wrote: Hi Amy, wanted to forward this along to you to see what you thought about who should speak to this crowd. Might be a good group to make a contribution ask, perhaps. Luis Miranda, Communications Director Democratic National Committee 202-863-8148 – MirandaL@dnc.org - @MiraLuisDC From: Patrice Taylor Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:30 PM To: Miranda, Luis Subject: Burger King Hey Luis, Following up on our conversation, below is the event I was telling you about. Date: Wednesday, June 8th Time: 1:20-2:00 p.m. (each speaker speaks for 20 minutes – 2 speakers) Sean Spicer from the RNC is speaking Location: Hyatt Regency, Crystal City What: The National Franchisee Association (NFA) is that national trade association representing BURGER KING® franchisees in the United States and Canada who operate more than 7,000 small businesses and employ almost 200,000 individuals across North America. For the last eleven years, NFA and Burger King Corporation have jointly held our annual Summit in Washington, D.C. which brings together approximately 200 BURGER KING® franchise operators, suppliers and vendors as well as many BKC corporate executives for two days of business and legislative briefings as well as hill visits. As part of our legislative workshop, we would like a representative from the DNC to speak to our attendees about the current democratic presidential candidates, the outlook for the convention and general election and how those candidates will help small business owners like those in attendance. Note that a representative from the RNC will be speaking on the same topics as well. Is this something you can do? Thanks, Patrice


Dear Mike, (and interested colleagues) Given the list of people to whom you have chosen to circulate your message(s), we thought we should make a short, somewhat formal, response here. I am happy to reserve my informal response until we are face to face! We did not respond earlier because we had more pressing tasks to deal with. This is not the place to go into a long or over-detailed response to all of your comments but a few brief remarks might help to clear up a couple of misconceptions. You consider our commentary on Ed and Jan's paper "more flawed than even the paper itself" on the basis that scaling the relationship between full Northern Hemisphere and extratropical Northern Hemisphere is *much* more problematic than even any of the seasonal issues we discuss. In fact we did not do this. The curve labelled Mann99 in our figure was, in fact, based on the average of only the land areas, north of 20 degrees N, extracted from your spatially-resolved reconstructions. We then scaled it by calibration against the instrumental annual temperatures from the same region. This is, just as you stress in your comments on the Esper et al. paper, what should have been done. We think that this single point addresses virtually of all your concerns. We can, of course, argue about what this means for the pre-1400 part of your reconstruction, when only 1 EOF was reconstructed, but the essential message is that we did our best to exclude the tropics (and the oceans too!) from your series so that it could more readily be compared with the other records. The fact that we have used only the extra-tropical land from your data is not clear from the text, so we can see why you may not have appreciated this, but we think you will concede that this fact negates much of what you say and that we acted "more correctly" than you realised. Blame *Science* for being so mean with their space allocation if you want! Remember that this was an unrefereed piece and we felt justified in concentrating on one issue; that of the importance of the method of scaling and its effect on apparent "absolute" reconstruction levels. In our draft, we went on to say that this was crucial for issues of simple model sensitivity studies and climate detection, citing the work of Tom Crowley and Myles Allen, but this fell foul of the editor's knife. You also express concerns about the calibration of Esper et al. (e.g., you say "if the authors had instead used the actual (unsmoothed) instrumental record for the extratropical northern hemisphere to scale their record, their reconstruction would be much closer to MBH99"). This point is wholly consistent with our discussion in the perspective piece, and indeed we show that in absolute terms the records are closer when Esper et al. is calibrated using unsmoothed data but since the variance is also reduced, the significance of the differences may be just as high. Finally, we have to say that we do not feel constrained in what we say to the media or write in the scientific or popular press, by what the sceptics will say or do with our results. We can only strive to do our best and address the issues honestly. Some "sceptics" have their own dishonest agenda - we have no doubt of that. If you believe that I, or Tim, have any other objective but to be open and honest about the uncertainties in the climate change debate, then I am disappointed in you also. Best regards Keith (and Tim) At 12:39 PM 3/22/02 -0500, Michael E. Mann wrote: Keith and Tim, Sadly, your piece on the Esper et al paper is more flawed than even the paper itself. Ed, the AP release that appeared in the papers was even worse. Apparently you allowed yourself to be quoted saying things that are inconsistent with what you told me you had said. You three all should have known better. Keith and Tim: Arguing you can scale the relationship between full Northern Hemisphere and extratropical Northern Hemisphere is *much* more problematic than even any of the seasonal issues you discuss, and this isn't even touched on in your piece. The evidence of course continues to mount (e.g., Hendy et al, Science, a couple weeks ago) that the tropical SST in the past centuries varied far more less in past centuries. Hendy et al specifically point out that there is little evidence of an LIA in the tropics in the data. The internal inconsistency here is remarkably ironic. The tropics play a very important part in our reconstruction, with half of the surface temperature estimate coming from latitudes below 30N. You know this, and in my opinion you have knowingly misrepresented our work in your piece. This will be all be straightened out in due course. In the meantime, there is a lot of damage control that needs to be done and, in my opinion, you've done a disservice to the honest discussions we had all had in the past, because you've misrepresented the evidence. Many of us are very concerned with how Science dropped the ball as far as the review process on this paper was concerned. This never should have been published in Science, for the reason's I outlined before (and have attached for those of you who haven't seen them). I have to wonder why the functioning of the review process broke down so overtly here, Mike _______________________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [1] -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [2] References 1.  2.  3.