Where we have a Deposit Guarantee Scheme for bank customers, there is no such Insurance Guarantee Scheme for Dutch policyholders. This means that a resolution instrument can have a direct impact on society. We have to clearly explain why resolution is still better for that policyholder than insolvency.
What is it then that [you need] in this journey where measuring your output is so hard? This entire field of economics [is] where you can measure the output of the thing but never measure the output of the members of the team. Sometimes, it could be frustrating; sometimes, it could be exciting because your team did very well, and you knew you contributed.