And creating a central bank from scratch is not an easy task in terms of the relationship with the political power, 3/4  BIS central bankers' speeches  in operational terms, in terms of creating credibility, in terms of bringing together a team. And I think that this point needs to be emphasised because it is a very important achievement by Yves Mersch.
After that, Yves Mersch joined the Board of the ECB, and he is one of the individuals we count on heavily at the ECB, for three reasons.