english: We’ve been very vocal about that and some people may not like that about us in particular and I know that ASAN has spoken out against them as well but we want people to come to the table and at least listen to each other so that’s why I wanted to have you on because I think it’s really important for anyone who’s listening to say, look your experience is different and that’s okay, here is a person whose experience is different and that’s okay let’s listen and see if we can learn something.
non_english: うぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅうぐぅぅうぐぅうぐぅぐ～ぐ～ぐ～。。。。