english: I really like being in that room with thoughtful people, and we may spend–you know, this summer, we spent, what, three days –a very deep, intensive dense just policy and philosophical discussion, but there was also some practicality to how we transfer that to the realities of what we do every day, and I really enjoyed that, walk away with three or four nuggets, and oftentimes, when we have our teleconferences, where I listen in and participate, I walk away with an idea.
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