english: It just came from using what's already there, and I'm thoroughly convinced that if it's not phones, that there's always going to be enough there that you can build similar solutions that can be very effective in new contexts.
non_english: došlo je iz korišćenja onoga  što je već postojalo i duboko sam ubeđen da,  ako nema telefona, uvek će postojati dovoljno da možete graditi kroz slična rešenja koja će biti efikasna u novom kontekstu.