english: And of course, good education has got to be good entertainment, so my first example will be drawn from a very recent experiment that we've been doing -- in this case, in Senegal -- where we have tried to use personal computers as a pedagogical medium. But not as teaching machines at all; the whole notion is to use this as an instrument where there is a complete reversal of roles -- the child is, if you will, the teacher and the machine is the student -- and the art of computer programming is a vehicle that sort of approximates thinking about thinking.
non_english: Svakako, dobro obrazovanje treba da bude dobra zabava, pa je moj prvi primer iz jednog skorašnjeg eksperimenta koji sprovodimo -- u ovom slučaju, u Senegalu -- gde smo pokušali da koristimo personalne računare kao pedagoško sredstvo. Ali ne kao mašine za učenje; cela ideja je da se računar koristi kao instrument gde je potpuna zamena uloga -- dete je, ako želite, učitelj i mašina je đak -- i umetnost kompjuterskog programiranja  je da prenos te vrste simulira razmišljanje o razmišljanju.