english: We fought very hard against the dictatorship, in a moment it was necessary to us: Either go into clandestinity with weapons in hand, or leave Brazil. We were too young, and our organization thought it was better for us to go out, and we went to France, where I did a PhD in economics, Léila became an architect.
non_english: Oštro smo se borili protiv diktatorstva, to nam je bilo neophodno. Ili da odemo u ilegalu sa oružjem u ruci ili da napustimo Brazil. Bili smo premladi. Naša organizacija je mislila da je bolje da odemo i otišli smo u Francusku gde sam završio za doktora ekonomije. Lejla je postala arhitekta.