english: This brutal pragmatism that she had, I mean, I was four and she told me, "Mommy is Santa." (Laughter) She was this brutal pragmatism.
non_english: Taj surovi pragmatizam koji je imala, mislim, imala sam četiri godine i rekla mi je: "Mama je Deda Mraz." (Smeh) Ona je bila taj surovi pragmatizam.