english: And when somebody gets up, in fact, to go answer a phone or use a bathroom or something, the empty seat becomes, if you will, that person. And you point frequently to the empty seat and you say, "He or she wouldn't agree," and the empty chair is that person and the spatiality is crucial.
non_english: Kad neko ustane, u stvari, kada ode da odgovori na telefon ili koristi kupatilo ili nešto, prazno mesto postaje, ako hoćete, ta osoba. Ako često pokazujete na prazno mesto i kažete: "On ili ona se neće složiti", prazna stolica je ta osoba i prostorno je suštinsko.