english: And you think about it, you know, grade four -- my wife and I, we say age seven is the age of reason, so they're into the age of reason. And they're pre-puberty.
non_english: Ve bunun hakkinda dusununce, bilirsiniz, 4. sinif -- esim ve ben 7 yasinin neden yasi oldugunu soyluyoruz, yani onlar neden yasindalar. Ve ergenlik oncesindeler.