english: But I think what we're seeing now, increasingly, is a divide in all the Western democracies between the people who want to stop at nation, the people who are more parochial -- and I don't mean that in a bad way -- people who have much more of a sense of being rooted, they care about their town, their community and their nation.
non_english: Ama bence şuan giderek artan  şekilde gördüğümüz şey tüm batı demokrasilerinde ulus seviyesinde kalmak isteyenlerle, daha dar görüşlü, - kötü anlamda demek istemiyorum - daha çok köktenci duygulara sahip, şehirlerine, topluluklarına  ve uluslarına önem veren insanlarla