english: And before that, I was a silversmith, and before that, I was -- I was out of the house at about 15 and a half, and I never wound up going into college.
non_english: Ve ondan once bir gümüş işçisiydim, ve ondan da önce ben... Evimden 15 buçuk yaşımda ayrılmıştım. ve hiçbir zaman üniversiteye gitmedim.