english: We all know that any kind of effective reform of education, research, health care, even defense, takes 10, 15, maybe 20 years to work.
non_english: Hepimiz biliyoruz ki herhangi  bir etkin eğitim, araştırma, sağlık ve hatta savunma reformu 10, 15, belki de 20 yıllık  çalışmayı gerektirir.