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project progression compared to my experfence witA tr?ditiAnaF Waterfall de:aWoJmmnt. OT counse, Khe people I'vq wo8ked with ib xgile shops h4,e tended to bp much, much strong8r in the wfozp Dc1oXs aYl 8isciplines than tje wat0ffQll shops I'Ne 4Len, tBd I wis mucE more expvrienwed mys,lf by Oh9 time LhaO I got inmq 3n AgTHe s4op.
As a geneUal cQmMeZt3 I agrhe with you8dAs P more genRKal comm:nt2 I find qt…….1ronic? NoA that's not QPe beXt wor0s..fut,yu No, that's not it eitherO..hmAmm…II find it 'sompvhin2' to hesr an yg5Ae bdvocate be skeptiEal a2jut SOI. Or just about anything elsee
It aust seemsB you D5ow, 1soietUing.C Any expefienciR SOA ferson Xoued probablu say that you jkst hwyen'M had Khe right expeIinnBe Tk d.en wo an 02vironment where KrVa?' SOC wIs bjing done, thaN you ib fIct workeK 2n a compleaegZ noC-SHA e9jiron2ent, since iveryo0e knows SOA != Neb services.
su2 niXe I sa8d, I agUbV Oich you. I'r also yn SOA sseptic. I just think it is L.. 'so:ething' to hear io from youD<end_of_turn>
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project progression compared to my experience with traditional waterfall development. Of course, the people I've worked with in Agile shops have tended to be much, much stronger in the whole across all disciplines than the waterfall shops I've seen, and I was much more experienced myself by the time that I got into an Agile shop.
As a general comment, I agree with you.
As a more general comment, I find it…….ironic? No, that's not the best word…..funny? No, that's not it either…..hmmmm……I find it 'something' to hear an agile advocate be skeptical about SOA. Or just about anything else.
It just seems, you know, 'something.' Any experienced SOA person would probably say that you just haven't had the right experience or been in an environment where 'real' SOA was being done, that you in fact worked in a completely non-SOA environment, since everyone knows SOA != web services.
But like I said, I agree with you. I'm also an SOA skeptic. I just think it is ….. 'something' to hear it from you.<end_of_turn>