Q.  Please  state  th'e  conversation  between  him  and  you?  A'.  I
wrote  down  immiediiaitely  after  my  oomTersation  with  Chief  Crolcer
the  substance  of  that  conversation,  andl  I  cam  give  it  better  if
you  allow  me  to  look  at  that  memorandum:;  I  can  give  it  without
but  I  think  I  should  rely  more  upon  what  I  wrote  immediately
after  the  conversation;  I  asked  Mr.  Crober  if  he  had  subscribed
anything  toward  the  fund  for  assisting  in  the  passage  of  the
officem'  bill,  and  he  said  he  had  not;  I  asked  him  if  he  knew  any
officers  who  had  subscribed  and  he  did  not  reply  directly;  T
then  askP'd  him.  if  he  was  solicited  to  subscribe  and  he  said  he
was  not.  because  he  knew  the  committee  was  coming  and  gave
notice  in  advance  that  he  would'  not  ^rive  up ;  I  said  do  you  know
of  any  officers  who  did  pTit  up;  and  he  said  I  know  those  who
did  not  in  my  battalion;  and  I  said  if  you  Imow  those  who  did
not  you  probably  know  those  who  did;  he  named  one  who  has  a
Erench  nalme,  beginning  with  G-  who  did  not  put  up;  his  name
is  Gicquel ;  and  then  I  said  again,  if  yon  know  those  who  did
not  give  np  th'en;  you  mnst  have  known  those  whol  did;  then  I
'said  that  money  was  raised,  and  he  said  yes,  and  put  in  bank;
I  didn't  haive  any  further  conversation  with  him;  I  talked  with
him  abont  his  being  a  yonng  officer  and  thai;  where  such  charges
were  made,  whether  they  were  tmie  or  false,  that  he  shioiuld
stand  up  like  a  man  and  tell  the  truth.
