Q.  Who  were  they?  A.  I  don't  know;  tbey  asked  for  the
miaii  in  oonunand,  and  I  knocked  and  told  the  captain  some
men  wished  to  see  him,  and  he  said  senid  theml  upstairs,  and
I  told  them  to  go  up;  the  captain  came  over  and  introduced
Mim  to  me  as  president  of  thie  board  of  fire  commissionersi;
Cartwright  intrioidtaced  Mm.  to  me;  hie  hiad  beten  asking  ftw  me;
and  QartwTigh,t  inttrodluced  me  to  La  G-range,  and  Lai  Grange
said  he  would  lilce  to  have  mie  come  along  witW  him;  he  says,
"Captain,  you  will  excuse  him?"  and  hfe  said,  "Yes;"  and  we
went  to  hiis  resaidlence.  '

Q.  WiiO  went  with  you  besides  La  G-range?  A.  I  don't  know
the  other  gentleman;  the  gentleman  with  La  Grange.
Q.  Do  you  see  him  sitting  here?    A.  No,  sir.
Q.  You  didn't  hear. his  name  during  any  of  tbe  conversation?
A.  No,  sir.
Q.  Or  whether  hei  was  a  person  connected  with  the  depart-
ment? A.  While  I  was  -sitting  in  the  parlor  Mr.  LaJ  Grange
spoke  to  a  lady  im  a  rear  room,  that  I  af terwaird  saw-  intro-
duced as  his  wife,  and  this  gentleman  told  this  lady  that  he
was  going  to  bed;  I  supposed  he  must  be  a  friend  of  the  com-
missi'oner  or  a  relation.
Q.  Were  you  thfere  at  other  times  with  firemen?    A.  No,  sir.
Q.  Did  you  tell  some  firemen  to  go  before  the  colmmissioner?
A.  No,  sair.
Q.  To  repiort  to  him?    A.  No,  sir.
