Q.  Well,  when  —  you  say  you  had  never  heard  that  there  t:  as
a  bill,  before  this  occasion,  at  Albany;  had  you  ever  heard  that
there  wajs  to  be  one  before  that  oiceasion  in  Albany?  A.  Well,  I
am  not  positive  aibtout  that

Q.  Yoiu  were  in  Albany  with  the  committee?    A.  Yes,  sir.
Q.  On  the  occasdion  that  you  refer  to?    A.  Yes,  sir.
Q.  Was  Captain  Burns  along?  A.  Yes,  sir';  Captain  Bums,
Captiain  Freel  and  LieutenaDot  Toibin.
Q-  Now,  the  evidence  is  tliait  the  firs*  visit  of  that  committee  to
Albany  was  on  the  5th  of  Marcih  of  this  year;  does  that  ooir-
respond  with  your  reooi lection?  A.  Well,  I  am  not  positive
wh,ettiier  it  was  thie  5th;  it  was  either  the  5th  ot  6th.
Q.  It  was  either  the  5th  or  6th?  A.  Yes,  sir;  I  am  not  positive
alb'out  the  date.
Q.  And  it  was  on  that  oiocasion  that  you  first  heard  th&.t  'tihere
was  a  bill  to  increiase  your  salary?  A.  To  the  best  of  my
knowledge.
Q.  How  did  you  heair  it  then?    A.  I  can't  tell  exactly.
Q.  Can't  yon  give  us  any  idea^ — -was  it  from  somjebody  that
you  miet  there?    A.  Noi,  sir.
Q.  Nobody  thart:  youi  met  in  Albany?  A.  I  don't  think  it  was,
sir.
Q.  Was  it  one  of  your  associates  on  the  ootaimittiee?  A.  Well,
T  am  not  positive  about  that.
Q.  Well,  what  is  your  best  reoollectibn?  A.  Well,  I  could  say-
it  must  be,  if  I  heard  it  then',  that  day.
Q.  Well,  thfeni,  it  must  have  been  one  of  your  asisoiciates  if
wiiether  yotu  di'd  hear  it  that  day'  or  not?  A.  Well,  now,  I  am
not  positive  when  I  heard  it,  in  refepen,cie  tb  the  sialaries.
