Q.  And  thiart  t!he  officers  in  the  fire  department  hlad  come  to  the
ormiduisioini  to  put  up  |15,000,  and  that  they  were  expected  to-  pro-
vide the  130,000,  makinig  $45,000  for  the  pasisilmg  of  that  'bill?  A.
JSTo,  sir.
Q.  Did  you  tell  him  any  srach.  thing?    A.  No,  sir.
Q.  DM  yon  say  that  the  dinfoirtolatjion  came  toi  you  directly  from
a  gentleman  named  Lon  Pajyn?  A  No,  sir;  I  didai't;  I  don't  knoiw
Mr.  Payn.
Q.  DM  yon  state  to  imm  that  he  —  did  yon  ever  meet  Mr.  Lou
Payn?  A.  No,  sir;  and  womldn't  know  him  if  I  was  tO'  fall  iwer
Mm.
Q.  DM  you  suggesit  to  him  th'at  hie  meet  the  president  of  the
officers'  association,  Joihni  J.  Byimies?    A  No,  sir;  I  didn't.
Q.  And  see  if  he  couMn't  effect  a  consoilidaMon  of  interests?
A.  No,  sir.
Q.  Wiell,  did  you  say  something  to  Mim  alboiut  seeing  Byrnes
upon  the  subject  oif  the  2  per  oent.  tax  bill?  A.  No  more  Ihan  io
let  the  officers'  association  kmorw,  if  they  intended  to  take  any
actioni,  and  at  as  early  a  daite  as  poiseible.
Q.  Did  you  say  anything  aibout  the  raising  of  money  for  the
passing  of  the  2  per  oent.  tax  bill  ?    A.  No,  sir.
Q.  Nothing  at  all  about  the  raising  of  money?  A.  No,  sir;
nothing  then.
Q.  Did  he  tell  yon  that  the  Conetituitli'onial  amendment  pre-
vented your  loolfirig  for  an  increase  oif  salary  for  thie  next  10
years?    A.  No,  sir.
Q.  Dild  you  tell  him  that?  A.  No',  sir;  T  wasn't  aware  of  any
such  thing,  and  I  couldn't  tell  MIm  tJiat.
Q.  Did  yon  say  to  Mm  that,  b^ore  that  bill  passed,  they  would
have  to  u'se  money?    A  No,  sir;  I  did  not.
