Is a gun in the waistband with a tucked-in shirt concealed or open carry in Michigan?
<p>I generally carry my gun concealed, inside the waistband with a shirt or jacket over it. If I were to tuck said shirt in, the grip will show.</p>
<p>Is this now considered open carry, or does the whole gun have to be showing?</p>

<p>It will hinge on the specific facts, but if the pistol is not <em>discernible</em> by <em>casual observation</em> it will most likely be regarded as concealed.</p>
<p>Michigan Open Carry Inc's <a href="https://miopencarry.org/faq#11" rel="nofollow noreferrer">FAQ #11</a> asks:</p>
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<p><strong>Can I open carry with an inside the waistband/inside the pants (IWB) holster?</strong></p>
<p>The Michigan Court of Appeals appears to answer this in <a href="http://publicdocs.courts.mi.gov:81/Opinions/Final/COA/19960830_C185231(0027)_185231.OPN.PDF" rel="nofollow noreferrer">People v
Curtis Phillips (1996)</a> (unpublished):</p>
<p>In the case, officers observed Mr. Phillips standing on a nearby porch
with the butt of a gun protruding out of his waistband. <strong>The Court held
that the pistol was not visible under &quot;ordinary observation” and
therefore &quot;A casual observer may not have discerned the object in
defendant’s waistband.&quot;</strong></p>
<p>Essentially, it's up to the &quot;trier of fact&quot;, meaning open to
interpretation for a judge in a bench trial, or a jury in a jury
trial.</p>
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<p>The FAQ goes on to quote The Michigan Court of Appeals <em>per curiam</em> in People v Curtis Phillips (1996)</p>
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<p>Defendant argues that the evidence was insufficient to prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that he “concealed” a handgun because the arresting
officers could see the butt of a gun protruding from his waistband. We
disagree.</p>
<p>To determine whether a rational trier of fact could have found that
the essential elements of the crime were proven beyond a reasonable
doubt, this Court views the evidence in the light most favorable to
the prosecution. People v Wolfe, 440 Mich 508, 515; 489 NW2d 748
(1992). A conviction for carrying a concealed weapon without a license
requires proof that the accused concealed a dangerous weapon. People v
Pickett, 21 Mich App 246, 248; 175 NW2d 347 (1970). <strong>Concealment is a
question of fact and exists when the weapon is “not discernible by the
ordinary observation of [those] coming in contact with [the accused],
casually observing him, as people do in the ordinary and usual
associations of life.”</strong> <a href="http://www.leagle.com/decision/196830512MichApp293_1269/PEOPLE%20v.%20JOHNNIE%20W.%20JONES" rel="nofollow noreferrer">People v Johnnie W Jones, 12 Mich App 293, 296;
162 NW2d 847 (1968).</a></p>
<p>While searching the area for gunmen after a reported shooting, the
arresting officers observed defendant standing on a nearby porch with
the butt of a handgun protruding from his waistband. They were able to
identify this object as the butt of a handgun based on their training
and experience. The officers were not “casually observing” defendant
“in the ordinary and usual associations of life,” and this was not
“ordinary observation” because the officers were searching for armed
suspects. A casual observer may not have discerned the object in
defendant’s waistband. Therefore, viewing the evidence in the light
most favorable to the prosecution, a rational trier of fact could
conclude there was sufficient evidence that defendant concealed a gun
in his waistband.</p>
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