Is it really a traffic stop? Was I operating the vehicle?
<p>I was at a gas station parking lot. The vehicle is registered under my name. My license plate is revoked in the state of Kansas for 3 years. The tags were not able to be seen due to mud covering the tag. </p>

<p>The gas station attendant did not see me operate the vehicle due to customer volume at the time. I returned to ask him. The people in the gas station were not familiar to me or the gas station attendant. There were several other vehicles and patrons in the gas station.</p>

<p>An officer pulls into a gas station parking lot and comes up to "provide a courtesy by informing you your tag is too dirty to read" and does not view the person being provided this courtesy actually operating the vehicle. No emergency lights were ever turned on and I was not in the vehicle. After I was informed my tag was dirty I thanked the officer and he left. I went inside and purchased a drink and used the restroom and came back outside to pop my hood and add power steering fluid to the vehicle. During that time, the same officer and another unit pulled back into the lot, again without emergency lights, to "stop" a vehicle that was not in operation to arrest me for "driving" with a suspended license. </p>

<p><strong>Is this a "traffic stop"? And is it considered a driving offense to add power steering fluid to a vehicle on private property?</strong></p>

<p>First off, the fact that they stopped you on private property is irrelevant. The traffic offense - you driving the vehicle with a suspended license - occurred on public property en route to the station. That offense does not simply disappear because you are <em>now</em> on private property, nor do the police need to wait for you to leave private property in order to stop or arrest you. So... forget the gas station even exists in this scenario.</p>

<p>The real issue at hand here is whether or not the officer needs to actually see you driving the vehicle in order to make an arrest. <strong>The answer is no.</strong> There isn't any other valid reason your car would be where it is now other than it was driven there. If you are the only person with the car, then it's reasonable to assume that you were the one that drove it there. Plenty of people get arrested for this "connect the dots" way of proving they drove, especially in DUI cases. But the officer doesn't even need to assume that second part either.</p>

<p>It all comes down to the actual definition of "driving" in the law books. Most citizens would interpret the word as meaning actually moving in a vehicle. That's wrong. Defining a driver and what constitutes driving is actually way, way broader in the eyes of the law. In Kansas, a <a href="http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2014/b2013_14/statute/008_000_0000_chapter/008_014_0000_article/008_014_0016_section/008_014_0016_k/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">driver is defined</a> in such a way:</p>

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  <p><strong>8-1416. "Driver" defined.</strong> "Driver" means every person who drives or is in actual physical control of a vehicle.</p>
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<p>Essentially, having physical control over the vehicle is generally enough to label you as the driver or that you are driving the vehicle. In a lot of states, having possession of the keys to the vehicle is enough for a court to say you had physical control of the vehicle, because "physical control" is more broadly defined as "capable of making it move and within close proximity" to the vehicle. Thus, you can be arrested for traffic-related offenses. It does not matter if the car is parked, if you're filling it with fluids, or just taking a nap in the front seat.</p>

<p>Whether this is a "traffic stop" is not relevant. If the officer has probable cause to believe that you committed the offense of driving without a valid license (or indeed any similar offense), then the officer can arrest you for that offense, and essentially say "tell it to the judge" if you protest that you weren't actually driving at the time of the arrest.</p>

<p>If the evidence described in th question was presented to a finder of fact, it would not be unreasonable to draw the inference that you had, shortly before you were arrested, in fact driven on the public streets without a valid license. </p>

<p>Moreover, in law "driving" a car extends beyond controlling the car while in motion. Standing next to the car with the car keys in your pocket may well amount to "driving", depending on the exact law in the specific state.</p>

<p>The officer is not required to fully prove the charge before making an arrest. Nor is the officer required to investigate all possible alternate theories of what happened. </p>

<p>If you think the officer did not have probable cause to make an arrest, this can be raised at some part of the proceedings, possibly at a probable cause hearing or an arraignment.  (Exact procedures vary.) Failing that it can be raised at th4 start of a trial. </p>

<p>If you think the state has not proved its case, this point can be made in arguing your case at trial. But finders of fact often reject possible but improbable scenarios, particularly when no actual evidence has been presented to support them.</p>

<p>Note that when coming close to the car the first time, mentioning the dirty plate to you, the officer may well have been able to read the plate and thus look up your records. License plates are designed to be visible even through dirt to the greatest extent possible. If the dirt was so caked on the plate that it could not be red at close range, that alone is a violation, and would probably justify the arrest initially, allowing the officers to obtain your registration and other information, and thus determine that your license was not valid.  </p>

<p>If this is a real sequence of events, you need to consult a good lawyer promptly. Tell the lawyer what happened. The lawyer can tell you if the officer not having actually seen you in the moving ca is any defense, or if the stop or arrest was in any way defective so as to offer a defense to the charges pending. </p>

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