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David Brawley: Uh 'kay. So Carl Major: So so so. Bradley Anderson: Put on your mic. Leonard Reynolds: So you forgot how this works again? Bradley Anderson: Boss. David Brawley: Yep. Leonard Reynolds: Boss. Carl Major: Maybe. Maybe maybe maybe. David Brawley: Okay so we're here to talk about the detailed design of the product 'kay? Bradley Anderson: Yep. David Brawley: And here's the agenda for this meeting. Uh I'm just gonna open, say a few boring words to start with again, and start taking minutes afterwards. You guys are gonna give us a presentation of our wonder product that I can see some demonstrations of over there. Looks cool. And then we're gonna evaluate it. Then Carl Major: Bra David Brawley: we're gonna talk about finance, and I've got a lovely Excel spreadsheet I knocked up in the last five minutes for this. And Leonard Reynolds: Hmm you knocked it up? David Brawley: uh yep. And we're gonna evaluate the product and close. Got forty minutes to do this in. We should be fine. Let's try and keep this one on schedule. Bradley Anderson: Alright. David Brawley: So Your thing is in where Leonard Reynolds: Thi David Brawley: is it? Is Leonard Reynolds: third Bradley Anderson: Three, David Brawley: it in Leonard Reynolds: third third. Bradley Anderson: three. Leonard Reynolds: The end product thingy. Yeah. David Brawley: Who wants it? Bradley Anderson: Pedro can have it. I like I'll help talk. Leonard Reynolds: Um yeah so what we ended up with. Production costs estimated by our manufacturing department and um the research department, which is us, is uh fifteen point eight Euros, someone forgot the units Bradley Anderson: Unit price. Leonard Reynolds: there yeah, uh unit price unit production price cost thing. Um we implemented the basic functions, plus the locator, which was one of the marketing things, cradle, scroll wheel for uh the the channels, and uh we implemented the f the the way of putting the new and revolutionary zapping, your favourite channels functionality, in the scroll. David Brawley: Zapping your favourite channels, eh? Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. Bradley Anderson: Scrolling through your favourites list. David Brawley: Oh okay okay. Leonard Reynolds: Zapping you know zapping. David Brawley: Ah 'kay okay, that's Leonard Reynolds: Maybe David Brawley: favourites. Leonard Reynolds: it's just a Portuguese thing. And um yeah that was the result. David Brawley: Ah 'kay. I like the the the the logo on there as well. Bradley Anderson: It's very prominent. David Brawley: It is very prominent. So this is the Bradley Anderson: So here I'll give you the so this is the cradle unit, and this is the actual remote itself. Um so the scroll bar is or the scroll wheel is this this green little scrolly guy here, um and then the volume controls are here and here. David Brawley: Okay. Bradley Anderson: got the keypad which is the numbers uh f from zero to nine and then ten. This is the power button. Uh we have our um we have the enter button and uh what was the other button here? This is the Leonard Reynolds: Start Bradley Anderson: teletext. Leonard Reynolds: s the the start uh to to Bradley Anderson: The Leonard Reynolds: to Bradley Anderson: programme button, Leonard Reynolds: programme yeah. Bradley Anderson: yeah the David Brawley: Ah, Bradley Anderson: programme David Brawley: okay Bradley Anderson: button. David Brawley: I see. Bradley Anderson: So this bl this button will be used both for the favourites and for programming your uh the um the type of television you wanna use. So um the plastic is the white area of this of the model here, and the red area is like a rubber covering. So David Brawley: It's pretty Bradley Anderson: you David Brawley: cool. Bradley Anderson: can see that when it lays like this or like this and the buttons are all gonna be rubber, so it's pretty hard to actually damage it um David Brawley: Is that could that be easy to for the scroll wheel to be rotated if it lands on it? Bradley Anderson: Yeah that might be a possible a mi uh possible problem, but Leonard Reynolds: Not Bradley Anderson: if Leonard Reynolds: helping. Bradley Anderson: you drop it yeah. David Brawley: Oh well I guess it depends on the stiffness a little of it. Bradley Anderson: Yeah and it depends on if it's sliding, but I think it's pretty ergonomic. You can feel it. David Brawley: Mm. Feels good. I take it that this is gonna be slightly lighter in the Bradley Anderson: Yeah David Brawley: final Bradley Anderson: of course. David Brawley: design as well. Bradley Anderson: Well this is clay. David Brawley: Yeah it's kinda cool. You have to reach a little Bradley Anderson: Yeah the David Brawley: bit don't Bradley Anderson: the power David Brawley: you. Bradley Anderson: button is a bit of a reach, but I think we might scale down the final model a bit. David Brawley: Ah yeah Bradley Anderson: These David Brawley: that wouldn't make sense. Bradley Anderson: this is a bit larger than it would be, but David Brawley: It's cool. I'm impressed. Leonard Reynolds: Don't have no one to handle that. Carl Major: Mm David Brawley: And hold it Carl Major: that's David Brawley: so wh what's Carl Major: oh David Brawley: the Carl Major: that's David Brawley: marketing perspective? Carl Major: oh I like it. I mean you guys gave Carl Major more than I was asking for, so I'm happy because we've got some really marketable features in this. Yeah I think it's good. Good good good job. Bradley Anderson: Mm Pedro can demonstrate the Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. Bradley Anderson: the paging ability. Leonard Reynolds: So you ha you have like the the base station with um the little button for the where's my remote. Bradley Anderson: Beep beep beep. Carl Major: Uh pla Leonard Reynolds: The locator Carl Major: I'm ha Leonard Reynolds: function. Carl Major: It's David Brawley: Okay. Carl Major: great. That's great. It's Bradley Anderson: Um Carl Major: a great feature. David Brawley: Mm it's impressing. Bradley Anderson: beep beep beep David Brawley: So Bradley Anderson: so David Brawley: let Carl Major get it, if I press this button Bradley Anderson: beep beep beep David Brawley: I see. That's pretty Leonard Reynolds: Wicked David Brawley: cool. Leonard Reynolds: isn't David Brawley: Hang on. Bradley Anderson: beep Leonard Reynolds: it? Bradley Anderson: beep beep be shut up. Carl Major: So you can take this ho take this home with you Bradley Anderson: Beep Carl Major: tonight and you can push that and he'll be across town Bradley Anderson: beep beep okay. David Brawley: I plan to do that as well. Bradley Anderson: Um no no no tha David Brawley: So Bradley Anderson: that's David Brawley: the Bradley Anderson: alri David Brawley: the two blue are are those for the the it to charge off of Bradley Anderson: Exactly David Brawley: in? Bradley Anderson: that's exactly David Brawley: Ah okay Bradley Anderson: what those are David Brawley: okay. Bradley Anderson: for. And um there's one other feature that we were debating, but we decided to go against it, is um you could beep beep beep we were thinking that it might be interesting to have a trigger button here because you have this David Brawley: Yeah Bradley Anderson: finger it David Brawley: it's Bradley Anderson: it's it kinda David Brawley: the Bradley Anderson: feels David Brawley: right shape Bradley Anderson: like David Brawley: isn't Bradley Anderson: there David Brawley: it? Bradley Anderson: should be something there, but we couldn't figure out what button is important enough to put there. And we we don't wanna accidentally be hitting the power button like that David Brawley: But maybe Bradley Anderson: so David Brawley: if you had a trigger plus the scroll then Bradley Anderson: Mm. David Brawley: that would get past the the problem of it landing and scrolling, Bradley Anderson: Right. David Brawley: 'cause then it would need to be hit on both sides. Bradley Anderson: So maybe in a final design phase we might tweak that a little bit, but David Brawley: Okay. Carl Major: Uh, I David Brawley: But it's Carl Major: can David Brawley: definitely Carl Major: see that. David Brawley: got options for like different types of models and things as well based Bradley Anderson: Mm-hmm. David Brawley: on that, hasn't it? Carl Major: Yep I like. Good job. David Brawley: So is that the the final colour scheme as well or? Bradley Anderson: Oh no this is Carl Major: No no. Bradley Anderson: just what we had to work with at the time. David Brawley: Okay. Bradley Anderson: So we'll leave the colour scheme up to the marketing people. David Brawley: The hmm. Bradley Anderson: Careful. David Brawley: It came off. The scroll wheels, a problem with them not being sort of Carl Major: Well I mean David Brawley: I don't Carl Major: of David Brawley: think Carl Major: course, David Brawley: the user interface Carl Major: I mean David Brawley: guy wants to touch it Carl Major: My David Brawley: anymore. Carl Major: my s my suggestion is we're gonna go go to the silvers and blacks like most of the televisions. David Brawley: Mm. Carl Major: You know some blend of silvers and blacks. Bradley Anderson: Beep beep beep. David Brawley: Okay enough of that. Well i it's cool guys. 'Kay so are we done with the this presentation? Bradley Anderson: Yeah. Leonard Reynolds: Ja. David Brawley: Okay. Now now. Carl Major: So you're not gonna find my uh my folder up there I gotta do mine up at the board. David Brawley: Have you? Okay. Carl Major: Yeah yeah. So David Brawley: Can I not get your get at stuff from your shared folder now? Carl Major: No it's not in there because I had the computer problem and I David Brawley: Oh I Carl Major: I David Brawley: see Carl Major: I David Brawley: I see. Carl Major: cou I couldn't create it. I couldn't create it in the PowerPoint, and I think I've got this really strange cable. So what I had, basically going from the PowerPoint format, is that uh yeah yeah I like this a lot. Is this one of the tests is to see how we can adapt to s changing situations in the in the meeting room? Leonard Reynolds: Nah. Carl Major: So what we had is we had the method. That's not how you spell method, is it? Bradley Anderson: No way. Carl Major: No A_. So this doesn't go so fast this way. And when I speak about method I speak about the marketing of the product huh. Carl Major: And uh to Carl Major with this product we got uh we got basically three things to market. We've got the features, we have the uh characteristics, and we have the I I don't know what we would call the other part what we call you know the the the corp corporate Help Carl Major. The the corporation stands behind the product, okay. So the features I think we got the scroll, we've got the uh the locator, we've Leonard Reynolds: It Carl Major: got Leonard Reynolds: fell Carl Major: the durability, Leonard Reynolds: off. Carl Major: we've got the dependability, we've got you know the Bradley Anderson: Beep Carl Major: features Bradley Anderson: beep beep. Carl Major: that make this a unique product. Um the characteristics I talk about, we have reliability, we have comfort, we have ergonomics, we have environmentally s sensitive. Uh and the corporation, we're talking about we're we're a new we're a new company. We're wanting to make a name for ourself. We're wanting you to uh find our product so we're gonna give you a good product at a fair price. One thing I would want to to see is uh is can we can we get a lifetime uh guarantee on this product, a normal use guarantee, which means that this product, for the for the life of of the life use, if it should have a technical problem, that we could re replace it at no cost? That was something I would be interested in. Um so yeah without uh going into great details, we have a we have a product, it has the features and the characteristics, and the background, I believe, to make it marketable I believe at a cost of of of thirty thirty five to to fifty Euros. We're gonna be competitive, and we're gonna we're gonna have a market niche. Um David Brawley: Do you Carl Major: w David Brawley: would you a argue that that we're better going for the higher cost than bringing it down into twenty f five as we probably could, but lowering our profit margins? Carl Major: That that would be uh that would be I think a decision best made by corporate um I I m for my evaluation, based on what our competition is, I th I think that that we can go after this and and and go after more of the uh exclusivity sense than the mass market sense. David Brawley: Mm-hmm. Mm 'kay. Carl Major: But I'm sh I'm sure open to to market this in either direction. But you guys came up with a great product, and at that cost I think it uh there's nobody else that's putting this this combination of of ingredients together. The only limitations I see to this is that we're focused on television only. Uh that's the only that's the only drawback I see to this. But with all of these other features I think people c one thing I'm I'm hoping for is people are not gonna even notice. There's gonna be somebody going home and say oh sh this thing doesn't work for my D_V_D_ and my but I like these other things, so they keep it, they don't take it David Brawley: And Carl Major: back. David Brawley: we're actually quite open to be able to expand the product for a later version with those features quite simply anyway, aren't we? Th there's no fundamentally different technology Carl Major: Well one of David Brawley: to do Carl Major: one David Brawley: that. Carl Major: of the thoughts that I had is can can this unit be be produced in a way that makes it upgradable? You know David Brawley: Hmm. Carl Major: uh like like a um a sim card in a in a um in a telephone. You know is there a card in th can we make a card and so after Leonard Reynolds: W we need we need we need s some more buttons if it would to work on some other stuff, Bradley Anderson: Mm-hmm. Leonard Reynolds: but Carl Major: Mm-hmm, but you follow what Leonard Reynolds: We Carl Major: I'm s I'm Leonard Reynolds: we Carl Major: s Leonard Reynolds: w yeah we could get another version of it that actually works. Carl Major: Yeah 'cause Leonard Reynolds: But Carl Major: if Leonard Reynolds: uh Carl Major: if we can make this unit upgradable then we're yeah but then we talk about changing the warranty concept and everything, but that's that was just an idea I had. Uh to Carl Major David Brawley: Yeah, Carl Major: the only David Brawley: the Carl Major: additions David Brawley: plus there's the the risk of making it unusable as well, or making it less b because at the moment it's actually very straightforward to look at all the buttons, you know what they do, it's very Carl Major: Yeah. David Brawley: simple, and it just works. Carl Major: Yep. David Brawley: Mm there's a risk of that. Carl Major: But anyway that's uh David Brawley: Okay so we can talk about finance now. So I have a little spreadsheet for us where I I was wondering, you when you talked about the fifteen point eight Euros, I was wondering how you came up with that figure? Bradley Anderson: Well, that was just just our technical team added up the um production costs of the individual units. David Brawley: Okay so I have bit of a spreadsheet here for this. Leonard Reynolds: Very Bradley Anderson: Oh. Leonard Reynolds: co David Brawley: Now Leonard Reynolds: very colf David Brawley: I've Leonard Reynolds: colourful. David Brawley: made a f few assumptions here in that I'm assuming that our power adaptor Bradley Anderson: Uh-huh. David Brawley: we can make for a cost of four Euros, equivalent to solar cells, which I think is probably fair considering that we have in-house manufacturing of power adaptors already. Bradley Anderson: Uh-huh. David Brawley: Uh and I'm assuming that the locator beacon, the you know the Carl Major: Mm-hmm. Bradley Anderson: Yeah. Leonard Reynolds: beep beep beep. David Brawley: Can be made for it sounded different that time uh can be made Bradley Anderson: Oh, David Brawley: for Bradley Anderson: sorry. David Brawley: a similar price to uh an L_C_ display, uh an uh Uh do you think that's fair coming from a m the manufacturing? Bradley Anderson: Yeah um I do think we that we we uh don't need the events chip on print, we only need the uh the regular chip on print, so David Brawley: Okay. Bradley Anderson: there may have been a m miscalculation David Brawley: Yep. Bradley Anderson: in there. David Brawley: Okay. So we're down to sixteen point Bradley Anderson: And David Brawley: four, Bradley Anderson: we David Brawley: yeah. Bradley Anderson: and we have a single-curved uh David Brawley: Is that a single-curved rather than a double-curved? Bradley Anderson: Uh I think that David Brawley: We're not entirely sure what single-curve Carl Major: We've got a we've David Brawley: versus Carl Major: got a curve David Brawley: double-cur Carl Major: and a droop. I don't know whether that. Bradley Anderson: It's single-curved, David Brawley: You think? Okay Bradley Anderson: yeah. David Brawley: I'm convinced. But we save one Euro that way, yeah? So we come bring it down to Fifteen Bradley Anderson: See it's a little David Brawley: point Bradley Anderson: bit David Brawley: four. Bradley Anderson: more than f single-curved. So yeah it's fifteen point eight, that's where we came up with it. David Brawley: Well hang on. Do don't speak so Bradley Anderson: Okay. David Brawley: it's in here, in that w do we have any we have special form don't we? Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. Bradley Anderson: Yeah we do. David Brawley: So that's yeah. Bradley Anderson: Ah. David Brawley: But Bradley Anderson: What do David Brawley: the Bradley Anderson: you know. David Brawley: the the we haven't talked about any special colour though uh I don't th Bradley Anderson: Oh it's a that's David Brawley: think Bradley Anderson: not David Brawley: we're Bradley Anderson: very special, it's pretty David Brawley: O okay so we're Push-button, Bradley Anderson: If Leonard Reynolds: We don't David Brawley: scroll wheel, we're basically Bradley Anderson: th. David Brawley: we have uh th is this intended to be a button as well or just a scroll? Leonard Reynolds: It's a scroll. Bradley Anderson: That's a scroll. David Brawley: Just a scroll? It's not one of the scrolls where, for example, with this one you could push it down to be a button? Bradley Anderson: Uh no we just Carl Major: Ooh. Bradley Anderson: use it as a scroll. David Brawley: Okay then we have fifteen point eight Euros. Bradley Anderson: It was a pretty accurate estimate I David Brawley: It Bradley Anderson: would Leonard Reynolds: Yes. David Brawley: wasn't Bradley Anderson: say. David Brawley: bad. Leonard Reynolds: We're wicked. Bradley Anderson: Yeah. Leonard Reynolds: Awesome. David Brawley: Okay so we're on Bradley Anderson: S David Brawley: to Bradley Anderson: 's David Brawley: the Bradley Anderson: kind of s frighteningly accurate. Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. David Brawley: We're on to the pat-on-the-back part of the presentation, where we have a look at the criterias th that Paul the criterion criteria that Paul has has given us, and we can use that to tell How's it going? Anyone got any Bradley Anderson: What? David Brawley: thoughts? How how have we done today? Bradley Anderson: I think we did pretty well. Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. David Brawley: I think we did pretty well too. That looks pretty spectacular. Carl Major: No, I think we come up with a with a attractive marketable um product and and concept. David Brawley: Any other chang uh thoughts? David Brawley: Okay so th th what about um room for creativity? Leonard Reynolds: That David Brawley: Is Leonard Reynolds: was David Brawley: it Leonard Reynolds: mm-hmm Bradley Anderson: Sh David Brawley: the. Bradley Anderson: I think there was plenty of room. Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. David Brawley: I I think we we Bradley Anderson: We got David Brawley: ended Bradley Anderson: a couple David Brawley: up being Bradley Anderson: innovative David Brawley: quite creative Bradley Anderson: i David Brawley: there. Carl Major: Yeah well Bradley Anderson: Couple Carl Major: we Bradley Anderson: innovative ideas. Carl Major: we we kinda broke we kinda at least adjusted every every criteria they gave us because we David Brawley: Mm. Carl Major: d we still have the the teletext capability in this thing right, Leonard Reynolds: No. Bradley Anderson: Mm-hmm. Carl Major: we raised the price of it, Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. Carl Major: we've added two t new technology to it. So you know you know if this thing flies then we've we've adjusted or broken every every idea they gave us. David Brawley: Not Leonard Reynolds: Basically. David Brawley: every idea necessarily, it's still a remote control. Carl Major: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. David Brawley: Uh no yeah but we did we did break with the specs a little bit I guess, but the uh Carl Major: But I like I mean when I say we have we had I believe we have room for creativity 'cause w this is we did it. David Brawley: 'Kay leadership, what do we report back to the bosses? No th th I think they were r reasonably flexible with us over the whole changing the specs thing. Leonard Reynolds: It Bradley Anderson: Yep. Leonard Reynolds: was more of a teamwork thing then really leadership based David Brawley: I agree. Leonard Reynolds: project was Teamwork. Carl Major: Cohesive yeah. David Brawley: Synergy. Carl Major: Yes synergistic yeah. Bradley Anderson: There was a lot of synergy. David Brawley: Teamwork, yeah he is uh. Carl Major: Yeah. David Brawley: What did we think of the meeting room, I guess is an important thing here. Bradley Anderson: These David Brawley: Mm. Bradley Anderson: cables suck. David Brawley: Yeah, Leonard Reynolds: Yeah. David Brawley: this falls off and Bradley Anderson: Yep. David Brawley: uh Leonard Reynolds: And David Brawley: the Leonard Reynolds: that's David Brawley: white board worked really well without Bradley Anderson: Yeah. David Brawley: any Leonard Reynolds: D you must David Brawley: pro Leonard Reynolds: have very long shirts. That's way far down lapel mic. David Brawley: Mm-mm, lapel. Wha Leonard Reynolds: Lapel lapel Bradley Anderson: Lapel. David Brawley: okay, Leonard Reynolds: lapel. David Brawley: oh, alright. Leonard Reynolds: That's almost a crotch mi cr David Brawley: That's it's down, it's quite close. Carl Major: You know you know what they're gonna David Brawley: Keep Carl Major: have David Brawley: it, Carl Major: on the recording David Brawley: keep it Carl Major: in David Brawley: calm. Carl Major: there from that microphone is your lunch digesting you know th Leonard Reynolds: Oh dear David Brawley: Oh dear. Leonard Reynolds: oh dear. David Brawley: No more pizza for Carl Major. So yeah the the pen came in alright and it's a little uncomfortable to use but I guess it works. Leonard Reynolds: 'Cause this is you were using it o upside down. Still that Bradley Anderson: That's our boss. David Brawley: Nah, I'm I'm not convinced of that at all. I've been wor I've been wondering about that all day, but see these look like they're that looks the oth Leonard Reynolds: Use them David Brawley: that Leonard Reynolds: like David Brawley: looks Leonard Reynolds: that. David Brawley: like it would be that way around, Bradley Anderson: Pedro's right. David Brawley: but it feels more comfortable, wh what Bradley Anderson: Pedro's David Brawley: you call upside-down. Bradley Anderson: right. David Brawley: I don't care. Uh okay so that data might be slightly invalid. What new ideas have we found? Bradley Anderson: Oh Carl Major: New ideas Bradley Anderson: wel Carl Major: f uh for the product or for the the the the environment or what David Brawley: Well Carl Major: are we David Brawley: let's Carl Major: ta David Brawley: do both then. Uh for the product? Bradley Anderson: Well we had the favourites list, and the scroll bar, and we have the cradle, and the r uh remote Carl Major: Oh. Bradley Anderson: call feature. David Brawley: Yeah we came up with quite a bit. Leonard Reynolds: Bunch of new ideas. David Brawley: And for the meeting room, Has anyone got any more Leonard Reynolds: Yeah comfortable headsets would be nice. David Brawley: Yeah Carl Major: Well David Brawley: less Carl Major: I David Brawley: sore Carl Major: I mean David Brawley: on Leonard Reynolds: Mm. David Brawley: the ears. Carl Major: clearly remote control microphones would be the would be a nice solution to all these cables, but I'm sure that there's there's some justification for these things that I don't know about. And of course I did not have so much fun with my computer this afternoon. It's not been uh it's not been cooperating so well, but I don't think that's the that's avoidable. Leonard Reynolds: Coulda been worse. David Brawley: Okay so Are the costs within the budget? Leonard Reynolds: Mm Carl Major: No. Leonard Reynolds: n David Brawley: Nope. Leonard Reynolds: no. David Brawley: Oh hang on it really that's something we that the costs were under twelve fifty Euros. No requirements are changed. We're still under twenty Euros to build, so we're good. And the costs within the budget? Not the original budget, but they are now. Is the project evaluated? Mm I think so yeah, then celebration Leonard Reynolds: Hooray. David Brawley: as it says. Carl Major: Okay. Leonard Reynolds: Free coke provided at the cafeteria. Bradley Anderson: All right. David Brawley: Oh I don't know how that got there. Uh anyway. Leonard Reynolds: Who wrote David Brawley: Thank Leonard Reynolds: that one? Carl Major: So we need to David Brawley: Thanks Carl Major: close David Brawley: guys. Carl Major: this meeting, yeah bravo. Congratulations. Leonard Reynolds: Cool. Bradley Anderson: Good job guys. Carl Major: S I've got a lot of paperwork to catch up on so let's close this and come back David Brawley: Yeah, I've got a lot of paperwork Carl Major: and 'kay. David Brawley: to catch up on too. Oh.	Bradley Anderson and Leonard Reynolds presented the prototype to the group and displayed all of its components. They demonstrated how the locator function operates. They suggested that a trigger button should be included in a later designing phase to improve the feel of the product. Carl Major gave an evaluation of the product and felt that it satisfied his criteria. He suggested including a lifetime guarantee and expressed concern that the remote would only be used for televisions. David Brawley discussed the final production cost with the group; after an analysis of all of the components the final cost was 15.8 Euros. David Brawley then led a discussion about the group's experience on the project. The group felt that they worked well together and that they had room to be creative, but only after they changed many of the initial specifications. They also had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment. They were satisfied with the increased final cost and budget.	3	amisum	train
Anthony Hodges: So we can start? Harold Reilly: Yeah. Anthony Hodges: Suppose I have to do my presentation. Tomas Castilo: Ah okay. Anthony Hodges: Eh um Tomas Castilo: It's Ada Longmund? Anthony Hodges: So, I'll present myself, I'm Ada Longmund, and as you may know it, I'm the pr project manager. So um we will have to um speak about m the project. Our project project is to create um a new remote control and as you may know there's lot of industrials interesting in creating a remote control, so the remote control has to be original, trendy and um user-friendly. Record. So method is the following. So if we're um the functional design, you have to do uh any individual work and uh also work with uh meetings talking with each other. Uh it will be the same for the conceptual design and also the same for the detailed design. Uh. The tool training is to try out the white board, Harold Reilly: Mm-hmm. Anthony Hodges: so Tomas Castilo: Maybe someone ha we have to this whiteboard, yeah? Anthony Hodges: Maybe you can draw your favourite animal and Harold Reilly: So Anthony Hodges: make Harold Reilly: right Anthony Hodges: a Harold Reilly: now? Anthony Hodges: list of its favourite characteristics. I don't know if we have to do Nathan Kruchten: So Anthony Hodges: it Nathan Kruchten: yeah Anthony Hodges: now, Nathan Kruchten: I think Anthony Hodges: maybe Nathan Kruchten: you can Anthony Hodges: later Nathan Kruchten: do it. Anthony Hodges: later. Tomas Castilo: Yeah, I don't know. Anthony Hodges: So the selling price of the product will be twenty five Euros. Nathan Kruchten: Twenty five Harold Reilly: Mm. Anthony Hodges: Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Euros? Anthony Hodges: Yeah. I think it's quite Tomas Castilo: I it's Anthony Hodges: good Tomas Castilo: it's Anthony Hodges: price, Tomas Castilo: reasonable, s Harold Reilly: It's Tomas Castilo: quite Anthony Hodges: yeah. Tomas Castilo: yeah. Harold Reilly: reasonable, I think, Tomas Castilo: Twenty Harold Reilly: yeah. Tomas Castilo: five. Anthony Hodges: And uh Tomas Castilo: Is Anthony Hodges: it will uh be a an international remote control, as we want to sell it in the entire world, and the product costs will be not more than twelve Euros and fifty centimes. So, as you will discuss about the remote control you will have to experience your um with the remote control. Um just uh maybe be imaginative with remote const con controls, try to create something new and people would like to to buy. And and the next meeting will start in thirty minutes, so you'll ha all have your spethisfispis specif specific role and you know I suppose you know what you have to do. And Tomas Castilo: Yeah. I I hope Anthony Hodges: uh Tomas Castilo: so Anthony Hodges: you will have to work on the design and also to work on the design of th technical fun functions of the remote control and think of the user requirement specifications. Harold Reilly: Those things just refer to each of each of us, I think. Nathan Kruchten: Yep. Anthony Hodges: Yeah. Harold Reilly: AMI and okay. Anthony Hodges: I_D_, yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Anthony Hodges: So Tomas Castilo: I_D_ is for the Industrial Design, yeah? Harold Reilly: Okay. Tomas Castilo: And U_I_D_, it's for Nathan Kruchten, Nathan Kruchten: That's Harold Reilly. Harold Reilly: Okay, and Marketing Tomas Castilo: yeah? Harold Reilly: Expert, it's Harold Reilly. Tomas Castilo: AMI yeah project. Anthony Hodges: So I will manage all all Tomas Castilo: you Anthony Hodges: the group. Tomas Castilo: will be the manager Harold Reilly: You can manage all this, Tomas Castilo: yeah Harold Reilly: yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Harold Reilly: Good. Anthony Hodges: So you have questions? Harold Reilly: Um. Not really. Anthony Hodges: So you all know what the parts of the work you have to do. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Harold Reilly: So which you, Tomas Castilo. Nathan Kruchten: No I'm user Tomas Castilo: I am the Nathan Kruchten: interf Tomas Castilo: Industrial Design, Nathan Kruchten: I'm user Tomas Castilo: yeah Nathan Kruchten: interface design. Harold Reilly: Okay. Anthony Hodges: Mm-hmm. And you? Tomas Castilo: I am Tomas Castilo so. Anthony Hodges: Mm okay. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Harold Reilly: Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: So what's the difference between user interface design Anthony Hodges: Hmm. Nathan Kruchten: d Harold Reilly: I mean, you Nathan Kruchten: industrial Harold Reilly: have to know. Nathan Kruchten: design? Harold Reilly: Ah, you have to know it. Tomas Castilo: It's difficult. Harold Reilly: It's your job, I hope you you know what it is. Tomas Castilo: You know very soon. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah, I think so. Tomas Castilo: So Harold Reilly: Mm. Anthony Hodges: I suppose you have to design it and you have to take care of the industrial way to transform Nathan Kruchten: Okay, so Anthony Hodges: it. Nathan Kruchten: I make uh Harold Reilly: Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: u user interface. You you Anthony Hodges: And i maybe Nathan Kruchten: de you Anthony Hodges: you Nathan Kruchten: implement Anthony Hodges: will transform Nathan Kruchten: the Anthony Hodges: it. Nathan Kruchten: core functions Tomas Castilo: I I Nathan Kruchten: in Tomas Castilo: think Nathan Kruchten: the Tomas Castilo: the user the user interface design is he will design how the user will Nathan Kruchten: Use Tomas Castilo: you know the Nathan Kruchten: it. Tomas Castilo: relation between the user and Nathan Kruchten: Make Tomas Castilo: you know Nathan Kruchten: make Tomas Castilo: the remote Nathan Kruchten: yeah. Tomas Castilo: control so And the uh industrial design, it is how the object will look like. Nathan Kruchten: Maybe I think Tomas Castilo: Yeah. So the materi Nathan Kruchten: design. I design the user f user interface, you design the function. Anthony Hodges: Maybe, it is the outside and the inside. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Harold Reilly: Okay. Tomas Castilo: Okay Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Tomas Castilo: right. But I was thinking that he's a user 'cause the user interface to design for example where the but button will be, you know. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah yeah. Tomas Castilo: But I don't know. Okay. Harold Reilly: Well. You know. Tomas Castilo: I'm Tomas Castilo. Harold Reilly: Oh, okay, okay. Not the other one. Tomas Castilo: So. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Tomas Castilo: Okay. So and Harold Reilly will Harold Reilly: Yeah, I'm just go I'm trying to give you some trends about what should be done and what the users would like to have Anthony Hodges: And Harold Reilly: and then Anthony Hodges: yeah. Harold Reilly: thi this would I guess converged to Nathan Kruchten wi and then Industrial Tomas Castilo: Ok Harold Reilly: Designer. Tomas Castilo: Okay. Anthony Hodges: And when designing y the remote control just remember that uh it has to be a kind of international product. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: So you don't have to do something really specific, Nathan Kruchten: Mm-hmm. Anthony Hodges: as Harold Reilly: Mm. Anthony Hodges: everybody everybody will have to use it, it's sor the same as keyboards. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Anthony Hodges: You know, you have Qwerty, Azerty, French and U_K_ Nathan Kruchten: Mm. Anthony Hodges: keyboard, Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Anthony Hodges: so really the remote control to be international. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Harold Reilly: Mm-hmm. Anthony Hodges: And not too expensive. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. And uh simple. Anthony Hodges: As we want to Nathan Kruchten: And Anthony Hodges: maximise Nathan Kruchten: easy to Anthony Hodges: the Nathan Kruchten: use. Anthony Hodges: benefit. Harold Reilly: And you have to keep it under twelve Euros and f Anthony Hodges: Yeah, Harold Reilly: fifty, Nathan Kruchten: Ah, Anthony Hodges: you Harold Reilly: so. Anthony Hodges: have to Nathan Kruchten: yeah. Anthony Hodges: keep in mind that Harold Reilly: That's the Tomas Castilo: It should Harold Reilly: problem. Anthony Hodges: the Tomas Castilo: be Anthony Hodges: product cost won't be maxim more Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: than twelve dot fifty Euros. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: And to be sure that really people will be interested in buying a new remote control with maybe new functionalities that don't exist in the mm existing remote controls now. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: So, is it okay? Harold Reilly: Mm. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Harold Reilly: It's clear. Tomas Castilo: There was a step about drawing something in the in the board, I don't know. Harold Reilly: Yeah, maybe should go and draw an animal. Tomas Castilo: Is it? Are we supposed to do right now? Nathan Kruchten: Yeah yeah, you try. Try Tomas Castilo: Oh Nathan Kruchten: first. Tomas Castilo: right it's it's from the left to the ri It's Anthony Hodges: So you think we have to do it now? Tomas Castilo: I d I was thinking but I n I'm not sure now. Nathan Kruchten: You can draw something which is very simple. Tomas Castilo: Oh Anthony Hodges: You want Harold Reilly to draw something? Tomas Castilo: Everybody Anthony Hodges: Product manager okay, Nathan Kruchten: Oh, maybe we should Anthony Hodges: let's Nathan Kruchten: bring Anthony Hodges: go, Nathan Kruchten: Kemy Anthony Hodges: I will try. Nathan Kruchten: here. Kemy Harold Reilly: Many Nathan Kruchten: is really good at drawing. Tomas Castilo: I think everybody should do it, so. Harold Reilly: Yeah. Tomas Castilo: It's not matter So. Nathan Kruchten: You're going to draw? Okay. Harold Reilly: Uh it's the same as mine. Tomas Castilo: yeah. It's Nathan Kruchten: What's Tomas Castilo: a Nathan Kruchten: this? Tomas Castilo: It's a cat. Nathan Kruchten: It's a fat cat. Tomas Castilo: It is not a fat cat. Harold Reilly: It's the fat cat, okay. Tomas Castilo: Yeah, it is a Nathan Kruchten: Can you draw uh um rabbit? Oh, hat ha rat. Harold Reilly: A rat? Nathan Kruchten: Yeah. Harold Reilly: That's difficult. Tomas Castilo: Yes you have to draw a rat if you want Anthony Hodges: No. Tomas Castilo: a rat. Anthony Hodges: A mouse is not Tomas Castilo: It's Anthony Hodges: too difficult. Tomas Castilo: your Anthony Hodges: Mouse Tomas Castilo: rat. Anthony Hodges: is okay. Nathan Kruchten: Yeah, it's okay. Harold Reilly: Yeah. Just go, you you Tomas Castilo: Okay, Harold Reilly: the closest Tomas Castilo: go Harold Reilly: to the whiteboard. Nathan Kruchten: Mm. Harold Reilly: Jus Tomas Castilo: right, but in grow, it's everybody Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Tomas Castilo: has to grow Harold Reilly: Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Oh. Okay, I draw. The only thing I can draw is like this. Oh. Oh. Oh. Harold Reilly: A duck. Nathan Kruchten: No. Tomas Castilo: What Nathan Kruchten: What's Tomas Castilo: are Nathan Kruchten: this? Tomas Castilo: you I don no idea, Anthony Hodges: You Tomas Castilo: so Anthony Hodges: love the eyes. Yeah, that was the eyes. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: A clown. Rabbit. Tomas Castilo: It's a rabbit. Harold Reilly: Pikachu. Anthony Hodges: It's a rabbit. Harold Reilly: Oh yeah. Bugs Bunny one. Anthony Hodges: Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Tomas Castilo: It's not so bad so. Nathan Kruchten: The only thing I can draw, because it's very simple. Harold Reilly: Okay. I go. Harold Reilly: What? Oh. So what else? This was my favourite one, but Tomas Castilo: So you don't have a Anthony Hodges: Thank you. Tomas Castilo: A fish. Harold Reilly: Right. A Tomas Castilo: That's a Harold Reilly: fish. Tomas Castilo: that's a fish? Okay, let's try to draw something. Anthony Hodges: You forgot the chips. Harold Reilly: Oh yeah, doesn't look so fine. Tomas Castilo: Have to be really careful. Anthony Hodges: Fish and chips. Harold Reilly: Okay, Tomas Castilo: Ah Harold Reilly: it's your turn. Nathan Kruchten: Oh. Tomas Castilo: it's my turn. Nathan Kruchten: Okay, be careful. Tomas Castilo: Okay. So. Anthony Hodges: Of Nathan Kruchten: No problem, no problem. Tomas Castilo: It's ok So, what can I draw some more? Anthony Hodges: Oh. Tomas Castilo: No. Tomas Castilo: Mm Tomas Castilo: Yeah, it's it's a se it's my priority this one. Yeah. Harold Reilly: Mm. Nathan Kruchten: A person? Tomas Castilo: No. It's a really crazy dog Nathan Kruchten: Dog. Anthony Hodges: Oh yeah. Tomas Castilo: Okay. Harold Reilly: Good. Tomas Castilo: Transfer. It's a dog in a village. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Tomas Castilo: So what are you sug going to do now? Harold Reilly: I think it's done. Anthony Hodges: Yeah, Tomas Castilo: It's done? Anthony Hodges: I think Harold Reilly: Yeah. Anthony Hodges: yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Anthony Hodges: Just have to Nathan Kruchten: So we Anthony Hodges: present Nathan Kruchten: have break. Anthony Hodges: project, discuss a little bit about it. Tomas Castilo: Oh my God. Harold Reilly: Oh, we have twenty five minutes for the meeting. Anthony Hodges: Yeah. Harold Reilly: Okay. Anthony Hodges: So, Nathan Kruchten: Oh. Anthony Hodges: if you have questions. Nathan Kruchten: Hmm. Harold Reilly: Know what time is it? No. Nathan Kruchten: No. Anthony Hodges: It's okay? Tomas Castilo: Yeah, it's okay. Anthony Hodges: You know your job? you know your job? Tomas Castilo: We have Anthony Hodges: You Tomas Castilo: an Anthony Hodges: know Tomas Castilo: idea Anthony Hodges: your job? Tomas Castilo: yeah. I have an idea of my job so Anthony Hodges: Okay. Tomas Castilo: yeah so. Yeah. Nathan Kruchten: Okay. Harold Reilly: Good.	Anthony Hodges introduced the upcoming project to the team members and discussed the roles of each member and the selling price for the remote they will produce. Then the team participated in an exercise in which they all drew animals.	3	amisum	train
Archie Sarabia: So, I will open our functional design meeting. Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: So, I will play role of the secretary. As also Program Ma Manager. So, we will have the three presentations from the In Tony Kellam: Industrial Archie Sarabia: Industrial Tony Kellam: Design. Archie Sarabia: Designer, User Interface Designer and um Benjamin Joseph: Marketing Archie Sarabia: What's your Benjamin Joseph: Expert. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: talk? Marketing Experts. Benjamin Joseph: Mm. Archie Sarabia: And after that we uh will have the uh new product requirements, the decision on the remote control functions, and we will close the meetings after. Mm so um I suppose the first to do the presentation will be Daniel Martinez. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Um, so you're participant two? Tony Kellam: One one. Daniel Martinez: No no no. Archie Sarabia: No you're Daniel Martinez: One. Archie Sarabia: No, I'm Tony Kellam: Three three, Archie Sarabia: participant Tony Kellam: it's three sorry. Daniel Martinez: I Archie Sarabia: one. Daniel Martinez: I think I'm a. Archie Sarabia: Okay, never mind. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. Archie Sarabia: 'Kay, did you save your presentation? Daniel Martinez: In one. Tony Kellam: In one, sorry. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah Archie Sarabia: Isn't that technical functions? Benjamin Joseph: No sure. Tony Kellam: So you didn't save it maybe. Daniel Martinez: It's mine. Benjamin Joseph: Uh Tony Kellam: Alright, Benjamin Joseph: it's Tony Kellam: so Benjamin Joseph: David Archie Sarabia: Name's Jordan. Benjamin Joseph: Jordan. Course. Archie Sarabia: So Tony Kellam: David Jordan? Daniel Martinez: Mm yeah. Tony Kellam: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: so I'll I let David Jordan do his presentation. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: No, no. Uh this one doesn't want Archie Sarabia: Uh. Benjamin Joseph: to be moved, I Tony Kellam: Too Benjamin Joseph: think. Tony Kellam: great for Daniel Martinez: Okay, Tony Kellam: email Daniel Martinez: so. Tony Kellam: then. Daniel Martinez: The first I will present the technical function design for user interface for our uh remote T_V_ control. Tony Kellam: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: Uh I I will focus on user interface design. Um Archie Sarabia: Mm. Daniel Martinez: so move to the next slide. As we know our remote c rem remote T_V_ control it's very has very soph sophisticated functions, as we show from this picture. Over, I think over s twelve or twenty s functions of a remote T_V_ control. So how can we um design a user interface with so sa with so many sophisticated functions? Um, let's move to next slide. Um. Yeah. So I so we want to design uh elegant, easy to use inter interface. A very good example is Google. As we know uh Google it's a very successful because his um powerful function, but with very easy to use user interface. Um so move to next s slide. So my job is to uh design a Google T_V_ controller which I want to have sophisticated functions while with very easy to use user interface. So That's the end of the talk the end of the presentation. Archie Sarabia: So you propose to to have the Daniel Martinez: Uh Archie Sarabia: remote control which will be Daniel Martinez: With sophisticated Archie Sarabia: powerful. Daniel Martinez: functions, but Archie Sarabia: So Daniel Martinez: with Archie Sarabia: powerful, Daniel Martinez: very yeah powerful. Archie Sarabia: many functions Daniel Martinez: Yes. Archie Sarabia: and very easy to use. Daniel Martinez: Yep. Benjamin Joseph: So, I dunno, it's maybe difficult to Tony Kellam: To merge the Benjamin Joseph: have Tony Kellam: two system Benjamin Joseph: both, Tony Kellam: huh. Benjamin Joseph: I mean the Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Benjamin Joseph: the one on the right doesn't look so simple and Yeah. Archie Sarabia: You mean this one? Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: Yeah you have to learn the manual before using this remote control, I suppose. Tony Kellam: Mm yep. But Daniel Martinez: But if we Tony Kellam: But Daniel Martinez: have Tony Kellam: this Daniel Martinez: very Tony Kellam: is Daniel Martinez: very good user interface Tony Kellam: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: it Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: take Benjamin Joseph: and Daniel Martinez: less Benjamin Joseph: then Daniel Martinez: time Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: for user to learn how to use it. Tony Kellam: Yeah you maybe you have some international standards, where you know, if you can use one is the other are or almost the same, so the sign. Archie Sarabia: Oh you mean for the yeah pic Tony Kellam: Yeah, Archie Sarabia: pictograms or things like Tony Kellam: yeah. Archie Sarabia: that? Tony Kellam: For example, I dunno here, escape, you know, you have escape in computers you have, so if you see escape, you know that it should be Benjamin Joseph: Oh Tony Kellam: the Benjamin Joseph: it Tony Kellam: same. Benjamin Joseph: should okay, yeah. Tony Kellam: So Benjamin Joseph: The Tony Kellam: you Benjamin Joseph: user Tony Kellam: have Benjamin Joseph: should know. Tony Kellam: to The sh the user there for example the power off button it is something very international, you know that So. Archie Sarabia: Yeah um such as maybe the Tony Kellam: Yeah. So. Archie Sarabia: Go on, go back and Tony Kellam: Yeah, but the question is how to merge you know the Google system to the system, alright. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: Yeah, that's Benjamin Joseph: that's Daniel Martinez: my Benjamin Joseph: gonna Daniel Martinez: job. Benjamin Joseph: be the trick. Tony Kellam: That's your Daniel Martinez: That's my Tony Kellam: job Daniel Martinez: job. It's not the easiest I've got to. Tony Kellam: It you Archie Sarabia: So, you will propose us something which is yeah so powerful and easy to use. Daniel Martinez: Yep. Archie Sarabia: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. Daniel Martinez: Powerful and easy to use. Benjamin Joseph: So that's the point. Daniel Martinez: Yeah, that's the point. Archie Sarabia: So, next I propose the Industrial User Tony Kellam: Okay, Archie Sarabia: Interface to Tony Kellam: okay. Archie Sarabia: present things. So you you're Tony Kellam: Participant two. Yeah. Archie Sarabia: Um. Okay. Tony Kellam: The rationale Archie Sarabia: So, Tony Kellam: must Archie Sarabia: Baba is the uh the Tony Kellam: be Archie Sarabia: Industrial Tony Kellam: design, or Archie Sarabia: Designer. Okay. Tony Kellam: So we can move to the next slide. As you all know, you know m my job is to design you know uh to give an industrial design of the remote control. So the re basically the remote control will be, you know, infrared control, so Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Tony Kellam: the problem is how to relate the how to relate the remote control device, like for example this one I h I'm holding in my hand and the T_V_. So, this one is leather bu based but Benjamin Joseph: Mm. Tony Kellam: I propose a nifra infrared base you know, so so for Benjamin Joseph I think that it is better it's bet it's better to control T_V_ so you know, so it's it will be cheaper and it is less technology than, you know For the cheap price we have, for the cheap price we want to Benjamin Joseph: True. Archie Sarabia: So you mean that infrared control is a cheap technology? Tony Kellam: I think it's cheaper than laser, so. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Do y you know the requirements for the remote control? Twelve, Benjamin Joseph: What Archie Sarabia: nearly thirteen, Benjamin Joseph: the cost Archie Sarabia: yeah. Benjamin Joseph: is? Archie Sarabia: The Tony Kellam: Yeah, Archie Sarabia: cost Tony Kellam: I think Benjamin Joseph: Twelve, Tony Kellam: for the Benjamin Joseph: twelve Tony Kellam: cost Benjamin Joseph: a Tony Kellam: we Benjamin Joseph: half. Tony Kellam: want for the cost we want it's better to have uh uh Let's see. Yeah. You can move to the next slide, so. So the di the differen the findings you know what you find inside the re i the the system here inside it is just, you know a bulb and an infrared bulb, so here for example the infrared bulb will be here Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Tony Kellam: and the bulb it will be somewhere inside. Benjamin Joseph: That might Tony Kellam: You can go Archie Sarabia: Okay. Tony Kellam: to Benjamin Joseph: just Tony Kellam: the next slide. I have Benjamin Joseph: So. Tony Kellam: some kind of pictures you know, here. You have the b the bulb, it is a blue the blue stuff here and Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Tony Kellam: the infrared and the infrared bulb it is the red stuff you know and so and you have the other subcomponent that are not really here so important, so. Archie Sarabia: What is this? Tony Kellam: This is in fact some other component that are in between the electrical de the electronic Archie Sarabia: Okay. Tony Kellam: device. Look. But here what I wanted to emphasise it is just you know the bulb and. Archie Sarabia: Okay. Tony Kellam: So and the next slide, it is the last one it's So it's I think it should be wire wireless re remote con Because you know, it's easier to manage and you know because you f the b the the battery problem can hold you know will you use a battery or the a wire to connected you. Or maybe some kind of thing that we can have both, but you know, I at my side prefer a wireless. Archie Sarabia: Okay. Tony Kellam: Okay, so Benjamin Joseph: Okay. Tony Kellam: if you have some question I didn't answer? Benjamin Joseph: What's the average price of this technology then? Tony Kellam: Well the avera the average prices I think that this technology will cost, I dunno, around eight Euros, so. Or at least you know, the Daniel Martinez: So what, the wireless remote control? There's a wire with remote control? Tony Kellam: You'd yes, you can. It's so so bres you have to decide how how you will you know, put some energy inside, so you can think about wireless or you know it's it's a question that we can raise, so. We can think that you know, with the wire, you know, without a wire. We can have both also. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: So you think that uh a cable between the remote control and the T_V_ Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: won't be a good Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: idea. No it wou maybe it will be cheaper I dunno, I just may maybe you making Benjamin Joseph: But this Archie Sarabia: a solu Benjamin Joseph: is what you would like to ask the user first and I don't think the user would be ready to have a Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: Wireless remote control. Archie Sarabia: but Tony Kellam: Yeah, but Benjamin Joseph: I don't Tony Kellam: some Benjamin Joseph: think Tony Kellam: pa Benjamin Joseph: well, yeah, I don't think he Tony Kellam: I always Benjamin Joseph: would, Tony Kellam: want to Benjamin Joseph: but Tony Kellam: have you Benjamin Joseph: in Tony Kellam: know, Benjamin Joseph: a Tony Kellam: sometime Benjamin Joseph: sense Tony Kellam: I want to have wire because Archie Sarabia: Yeah Tony Kellam: you Archie Sarabia: but Tony Kellam: know. Archie Sarabia: as Industrial Designer, do you think that it will be feasible to have uh linked or to have link between the remote control and the television? I'm just asking you. Do you think it will be cheaper? Tony Kellam: Uh, I don't think it will be too much. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Could you answer please? Tony Kellam: Have to think about the question, you know, 'cause it's I Archie Sarabia: Okay. Tony Kellam: think that you know you can always you know I think wha wha with the wire it's mm cheaper but you know the wireless it's more practical, so. Archie Sarabia: Yeah, but I think the wireless problem is more the um David Jordan's problem. Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: As it's Benjamin Joseph: The wire? Archie Sarabia: yeah. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. True. Tony Kellam: Okay, Archie Sarabia: I think Tony Kellam: yeah. Archie Sarabia: it's more your problem. Mayb maybe you have just to to kind of research or Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: try to ask people if they will like something wireless or not. Benjamin Joseph: Uh that's my job. That's the Archie Sarabia: Okay, I'm sorry. So Benjamin Joseph: Now the Tony Kellam: Yeah but, it should be an agreement, you know, because even if you can think of the wireless, it is it's it is the job of the the the g Graphical User Designer, but you know. If it is a lot cheaper and if you want to reach for example some the the money you have, if you want to use, so it can be good to have a wireless, it it is a question. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: So just think of um the usability. Daniel Martinez: Design a wireless Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: remote control. Archie Sarabia: Just think of the problem. If when you have wireless remote control and if you lose Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: it? Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: I think it's would be easier to have a link between the remote control and Benjamin Joseph: Well that's actually one of the Archie Sarabia: the Benjamin Joseph: point, Archie Sarabia: television, Benjamin Joseph: yeah? Archie Sarabia: yeah. Benjamin Joseph: True. This you will see in my presentation then. Archie Sarabia: So I will let you Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: to do Tony Kellam: Okay. Archie Sarabia: your presentation, so. Benjamin Joseph: Which is participant four. So just trying to answer all the questions, if the user would be happy to have something or something else uh. We've made a study, so could you go to next slide. Sorry for the functional recurrence. So that's the standard method for marketing, okay. We had one hundred subjects, um, we observe their remote control use in a lab and then after all the experiments they had to fill up a questionnaire, um, and see what was okay or not for them. Tony Kellam: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. So then it's some statistics about what we observed and what they answered. Um actually seventy five percent of the users find m the most remote controls uh ugly, okay, so that's Archie Sarabia: You mean the loo the Tony Kellam: The Archie Sarabia: look, Tony Kellam: look, Archie Sarabia: the Tony Kellam: how Archie Sarabia: outside? Tony Kellam: it look Archie Sarabia: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, Tony Kellam: like. Benjamin Joseph: the the look is is bad for them so uh it's your job, David, maybe. Then eighty percent of users would spend more money um actually if if the remote controls were not so ugly. So this is where we could have uh yeah, good market, I guess, Tony Kellam: Yeah. Benjamin Joseph: if people are ready to pay more. So it's it's interesting information, I think. And then um yeah, the remote controls like the one you've shown previously it's not so doesn't fit the user requirements sometime, because it's too many buttons and so on. So we should change this as well. And uh users are actually zapping a lot, so they're using the device intensively, that's something to take into account as well. And um, you know, ten percent of the buttons are actually used in the remote control. And uh this is one of the main point for Benjamin Joseph. But I'll come back to it later. 'Kay. Could you go next slide? Uh, so as you said Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Joseph: uh, remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. So this is from the experiments we've done, so if we could solve this problem this would be interesting for the user, I think. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use the remote control for thirty five percent of the people. And uh remote control are really bad for R_S_I_ problems for twenty six percent of the users. Archie Sarabia: What is R_S_I_? Benjamin Joseph: R_S_I_ is like, when you're using the same um doing the same movement several times, Tony Kellam: Yeah. Benjamin Joseph: then you get injured. Archie Sarabia: Ah um Benjamin Joseph: Okay? Archie Sarabia: okay. Benjamin Joseph: So, those numbers are less important then the previous one, but still it has to be taken to count. So last slide. Um so my pres personal preferences for this problem is we have to meet the user needs. If we can make it look fancy then we might sell more than our uh concurrent, okay. Tony Kellam: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Joseph: And definitely if it could have less buttons, still maybe the same number of um Daniel Martinez: Functions. Benjamin Joseph: functions, but less buttons, this would definitely be a good way of selling more. Tony Kellam: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. So Archie Sarabia: Mm okay. And just to have uh an idea, do you think you as Daniel Martinez to would it be possible to have less buttons and Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: still have the same functionality and to have powerful remote control, you think it's possible? Sure? Daniel Martinez: Yeah, I think Archie Sarabia: Yeah? Daniel Martinez: possible. Because we can We can uh mix uh several function in one button. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: So lets you then you have less buttons. Archie Sarabia: Yeah, but Daniel Martinez: But I'm Archie Sarabia: do you Daniel Martinez: not Archie Sarabia: think Daniel Martinez: sure Archie Sarabia: it will be easy to use? Because if you have many functions just for one button it would be quite difficult for the user to know. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, remember the user is not happy to read the Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Tony Kellam: The manuals. Archie Sarabia: I think Benjamin Joseph: manual. Archie Sarabia: the Benjamin Joseph: It's Daniel Martinez: No you you can have a switch menu, so you can Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: well Archie Sarabia: but Daniel Martinez: for example Archie Sarabia: it has to be intuitive. Daniel Martinez: Yeah, I think so. Like for for example you can uh you can category the function i i into several classes. Then for um you can have a switch menu, so Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: you put Archie Sarabia: okay. Daniel Martinez: the switch menu to it it tend to this kind of this category of functions. Archie Sarabia: Okay, Daniel Martinez: Then you Archie Sarabia: but Daniel Martinez: you put the switch button, then it switch to another category of functions. Yeah. For example, if you have remote control you you can rem you can control your T_V_ and also you can control your uh recorder. Tony Kellam: With Daniel Martinez: So Tony Kellam: a Daniel Martinez: there's a different functions, but i if you you there's a button you can switch between control T_V_ and control your recorder. So we can has less buttons. Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: But Archie Sarabia: but Daniel Martinez: what I'm not so sure is about how to make the remote control look funny look Tony Kellam: Look Daniel Martinez: fancy, Tony Kellam: fancy. Daniel Martinez: not funny. Tony Kellam: question that should Daniel Martinez: Because Tony Kellam: be asked to the Daniel Martinez: different people have a different opinion about fancy. You know. Tony Kellam: If you Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Tony Kellam: ask the people, maybe the the marketing people. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, this Daniel Martinez: Because Benjamin Joseph: is something Daniel Martinez: maybe Benjamin Joseph: we Daniel Martinez: a Benjamin Joseph: sh Daniel Martinez: colourful is fancy for some people, but maybe Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Daniel Martinez: simple and Benjamin Joseph: But this was Daniel Martinez: uh uniform Benjamin Joseph: first step and Daniel Martinez: colourful is fancy for some for other peoples, so. Benjamin Joseph: This Tony Kellam: I think Benjamin Joseph: was Tony Kellam: the solution Benjamin Joseph: the first step, yeah. Tony Kellam: is to have many colours of you know instead of having one grey Archie Sarabia: Yeah, but I Tony Kellam: standard Archie Sarabia: think it will increase the price of the production Benjamin Joseph: Specially distribution, Archie Sarabia: of the remote Benjamin Joseph: yeah. Archie Sarabia: control. Tony Kellam: Yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Archie Sarabia: If you need to have special colours for remote Benjamin Joseph: Uh Archie Sarabia: controls it will Daniel Martinez: Yeah, personalised Archie Sarabia: cost more. Daniel Martinez: colour. Because you Archie Sarabia: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: know Archie Sarabia: it will cost little bit more. Daniel Martinez: Yeah, because maybe some people prefer a red remote Tony Kellam: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: control, Tony Kellam: yeah, Daniel Martinez: some people Tony Kellam: yeah. Daniel Martinez: prefer black remote Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, but Daniel Martinez: control. Benjamin Joseph: this is what we would ask to the users, so. Archie Sarabia: And Daniel Martinez: Maybe Archie Sarabia: also Daniel Martinez: we Archie Sarabia: f Daniel Martinez: can have di Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: di we can have uh several options, so user can select which colour they prefer, so. Archie Sarabia: Yeah, but as soon as you speak about options, Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: it means Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, remember Archie Sarabia: that the price increases, Benjamin Joseph: it's Archie Sarabia: and we don't really want Benjamin Joseph: twelve Archie Sarabia: the Benjamin Joseph: Euros. Archie Sarabia: price to be too too high, because we wanna be able to produce it. So, we want something fancy, as uh previously said, Florent, something very easy to use, powerful and also as uh it's written here, seventy five percent of users, they zap lot, so maybe just having many functions in one button Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: is not that good if you want to zap a lot. Benjamin Joseph: Hmm. Archie Sarabia: And they don't really want to zap between functions of their remote control, Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: they want to zap between channels on T_V_. So I think you have quite lot of points to to think about Tony Kellam: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: and to discuss it with Tony Kellam: Yeah, Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: uh Tony Kellam: hmm. Archie Sarabia: the other members. So, is it okay for your presentation? Nothing else Benjamin Joseph: Yeah, it's Archie Sarabia: to Benjamin Joseph: done, Archie Sarabia: to add? Benjamin Joseph: just yeah. If we would if we could remember like, not too many buttons and make it look fancy, I think Archie Sarabia: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Joseph: it would Archie Sarabia: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: make it. Archie Sarabia: Mm so So, Benjamin Joseph: So. Archie Sarabia: I had some new information about the product requirements, so you will have to take care of it of it in your thinking, in your designing of the remote control. So the first one is that um for the designing of the remote control we don't really want to use the teletext anymore, Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: as it's something that's It's is uh Benjamin Joseph: Lame, Archie Sarabia: No Benjamin Joseph: or Archie Sarabia: yeah, internet at home, Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: so it's better to use internet then teletext. Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: So, you will have to think about it in your in in the design of your remote control, Tony Kellam: Yep. Archie Sarabia: and also the remote control will only be used for television, so for y for you your designing, you're not you won't be uh you won't had um buttons to just to manipulate Daniel Martinez: Control. Archie Sarabia: yeah to control the recorder or Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: maybe the garage door or things like that. It's Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm Archie Sarabia: because if we want to to do remote control Daniel Martinez: Mm. Archie Sarabia: which will be used for for the television, for the recorder, for the camcorder and all the others, it will become too complex and it will increase the pli the price and we can't do that. We really want to focus on the remote control for the television. Is it okay? Daniel Martinez: Okay. But there's balance between function Archie Sarabia: So maybe Daniel Martinez: and the Archie Sarabia: it Daniel Martinez: cost. Archie Sarabia: will be easier for you to to design it, to have Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: very Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: powerful and easy. And also we want the image of the uh um real reaction Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: be recognisable in the product, such as the colour and s the slogan. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: I mean that's uh if uh you want to buy a remote control and if you go in a shop and if you see the remote control you will recognise Daniel Martinez: Mm-hm. Archie Sarabia: directly that s it's our product. Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: So you will have to use the colour of the product, Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: of the um um of the uh of real reaction Daniel Martinez: Okay. Tony Kellam: So. Archie Sarabia: and uh also Benjamin Joseph: So has to be yellow. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Tony Kellam: Yellow. Archie Sarabia: As we say, we put the fashion in electronics, so it has to be a fashion remote control. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Fancy, fashion, powerful, easy to use. Daniel Martinez: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: Require lot of requirements, but Daniel Martinez: Yeah. Tony Kellam: For cheap remote control, Daniel Martinez: And cheap. Tony Kellam: yeah. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: A low cost. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. But uh that's your your job Tony Kellam: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: to find something mm Tony Kellam: Yeah, Archie Sarabia: matches. Tony Kellam: 'cause what I'm thinking is how will you will connect the T_V_ to internet, so. This is Benjamin Joseph: I don't think it's part of the remote control design anyway. Archie Sarabia: Maybe not, Benjamin Joseph: It's Archie Sarabia: but mayb Benjamin Joseph: maybe more in browsing. Tony Kellam: Yeah, but this this mean that your T_V_ would be able to, you know, connect to internet, you know, surf the web. Daniel Martinez: Yeah, there's that box in Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Daniel Martinez: uh o of it. A pi There's that box in the T_V_, so with the set box you you can connect internet with your T_V_. Tony Kellam: Okay. Daniel Martinez: Ok Benjamin Joseph: Hm-mm. Daniel Martinez: It's It's not so uh popular now. Tony Kellam: It's pop I don't think it's popular, so that's the Daniel Martinez: Mm. Tony Kellam: problem so. You had i if you are designing a remote control for you know the global Daniel Martinez: Global, Tony Kellam: usage, Daniel Martinez: okay. Tony Kellam: so if people don't have the technology. Archie Sarabia: So. Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: So Daniel Martinez: So Archie Sarabia: everybody Daniel Martinez: I I Archie Sarabia: is Daniel Martinez: so Archie Sarabia: okay with the new requirements? Daniel Martinez: As as for the colour, what what do you think? Archie Sarabia: I think it has to be yellow. Tony Kellam: Yellow? Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Tony Kellam: Do you Daniel Martinez: Yellow? Tony Kellam: think that people like the colour Daniel Martinez: T_V_ Tony Kellam: yellow? Daniel Martinez: remote control? Benjamin Joseph: Min Archie Sarabia: Maybe you can change the colour, Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: but the image of the society has to be recognised. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Tony Kellam: I think Archie Sarabia: Why Tony Kellam: if Archie Sarabia: you Tony Kellam: you Archie Sarabia: go Tony Kellam: have you know th like a yellow ribbon here is the double R_. Archie Sarabia: It has to be fashion. Tony Kellam: Or should be. Yeah, so. Doesn't Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: So you Tony Kellam: need to be completely Archie Sarabia: have to Tony Kellam: yellow, but just mm. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. It has to be a fashion and really be uh the image of the society. Just when you enter you say oh, oh, it's real reaction. Think it's a Daniel Martinez: Okay, Archie Sarabia: re reaction Daniel Martinez: okay. Archie Sarabia: remote control, so. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: And also it has to be attractive, of Daniel Martinez: Mm. Archie Sarabia: course, because if you want to sale to sell the remote control. It's okay? Benjamin Joseph: Regarding the first line, what So we're just expecting no more use of the teletext. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Benjamin Joseph: And that's it. Archie Sarabia: Yeah. Tony Kellam: But I dunno, but why, nobody's a threat to Benjamin Joseph. Benjamin Joseph: It's already changed for Archie Sarabia: I think it would be simpler. Benjamin Joseph: Mm-hmm. Archie Sarabia: Okay. So I will close the meeting, um just after that we'll have lunch break. And you will have in thirty minutes individual work. Uh Y you You will have as the I_D_ I don't remember what is Tony Kellam: Industrial Archie Sarabia: industr Benjamin Joseph: Industrial Designer. Tony Kellam: Designer, Archie Sarabia: Industrial Tony Kellam: yeah. Archie Sarabia: Designer to put Tony Kellam: Component Archie Sarabia: um pon Tony Kellam: component, Archie Sarabia: yeah, Tony Kellam: yeah. Archie Sarabia: and Daniel Martinez to work on the user interface concept. Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: And Florent to work my subject. Benjamin Joseph: Yep. Archie Sarabia: And so specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. Benjamin Joseph: Okay. Archie Sarabia: It's okay? Benjamin Joseph: Yeah. Archie Sarabia: I think the um session is closed. Tony Kellam: Good. Archie Sarabia: And by the way, Mister David Jordan, please record your presentations in your own folder. Tony Kellam: Okay Daniel Martinez: Okay. Archie Sarabia: Not in mine. Tony Kellam: Okay, Daniel Martinez: Okay. Tony Kellam: that's Archie Sarabia: Should Tony Kellam: clear. Archie Sarabia: be better.	Daniel Martinez discussed some characteristics and functions to consider in designing the remote and introduced an idea for giving the remote international appeal by merging it with a system such as Google. Tony Kellam discussed the interior workings of a remote and presented options for components and materials which would keep costs low. Benjamin Joseph presented consumer preferences and requirements. Archie Sarabia introduced the new requirements for the project. The team then discussed different features they could include in the design of the remote.	3	amisum	train
Darren Price: Okay. Good morning everybody. Bruce Gibson: Good morning. Darren Price: Oh, everybody is not ready. Martin Gillard: Uh almost. Ready. Darren Price: Alright. Okay, let's go. So, we're here today to to have our first kick-off meeting about uh this new project we're going to tak to talk about in a few minutes. Um so I will be uh Sebastian Darren Price. Um you are the Martin Gillard: I'm uh Michael. Martin Gillard. Darren Price: Okay. Daniel Chidester: Hi I'm Guillermo. I'm Daniel Chidester. Bruce Gibson: And I am, Bruce Gibson. Darren Price: Okay, very good. Thanks for being here. Um so let's have a look to the the agenda. So, we are going to go through this agenda and mainly first to uh to make to to be used to the tools uh available in this nice and smart meeting room we have here. Um then we'll go to uh the plans for project and have general discussions about it. So, the goal of this project is to uh developed a new remote control. Um it should be original, trendy, and also user friendly. As usual we will follow the the project method um that we are using in the in our company. It is in three step as you know. First the functional design. The second's a conceptual design, and then the detailed design. During each step uh of each design we wi you will work uh s separately, individually on uh your specific tasks and will m we will meet to um to discuss and take decisions about uh what you've you've you did and what uh we will do next. So first, we have to to train ourself with all the um the tools availables in the in this nice meeting room and uh particularly the the white board so uh we are going to go through the white board and take some um s some notes or do some drawings. So who want to start? Martin Gillard: Ah well Darren Price: Mister. Martin Gillard: if no one else wants to, yeah. Okay so, want Daniel Chidester to draw my favourite animal. Let's see. Martin Gillard: Well, I don't really have a favourite animal, but um uh Darren Price: You have one in mind? Martin Gillard: I think I have one in mind, so uh I'm gonna about the uh spider because you can actually draw it pretty well in the corner of a white board. The spider has a spider lives in a web and uh it has eight legs, and uh it can move all about the web in two dimensions. Unless it's a three dimensional web which y they have sometimes. There are some spiders that live in like that have like uh kind of a a big ball of a of a web. And uh the other thing is some spiders can actually uh fly like uh they have uh they let out like uh a stream of like the web building material but it's it acts like a parachute so they can actually kind of go and find new uh build a new web somewhere else. So I think they did this in uh in Charlotte's Web that movie that little uh well it's actually a book first but uh um at the end all the the spiders kinda flew away. So, Darren Price: Okay. Martin Gillard: that's Darren Price: Th Martin Gillard: my animal. Darren Price: thank you. Very interesting. Guillermo you want to? Daniel Chidester: 'kay I dunno why, but when I was a child I I wanted to be a a panther not a pink panther, Bruce Gibson: But don't Daniel Chidester: or Bruce Gibson: you Daniel Chidester: maybe Bruce Gibson: think Daniel Chidester: yes. Bruce Gibson: it's very difficult to draw a panther? Daniel Chidester: Uh yeah yeah. Bruce Gibson: So bad Darren Price: It Bruce Gibson: I don't like Darren Price: would be Bruce Gibson: it. Darren Price: very funny for us. Oh. Daniel Chidester: Okay it's a friendly panther. Martin Gillard: Maybe it's happy 'cause it just ate someone. Daniel Chidester: Yeah maybe. Um. Actually, honestly I I I dunno what's what's his it's be behaviour, I dunno if if it's the male who who hunts or it's the female uh, I I the female lions who who hunt, so but I like it because it's fast, and it's black as well, so it can he it can hide itself very easily and it's it's it looks like um powerful, strong, uh I dunno. I I watch a a film about a black panther when I was a child and I was in that age when everything was shocking Daniel Chidester a lot. Darren Price: Okay. Thank Daniel Chidester: Okay. Darren Price: you. Hemant. Bruce Gibson: Um sure. Martin Gillard: So you don't like pink panthers? Daniel Chidester: I like it. Bruce Gibson: Oh yeah. Thanks. This lapel is coming out once in a while. It's not very strong. Okay. So, not the favourite animal, but I think I'll draw elephant. I'll try to draw elephant. It's a problem. Okay, thanks. Okay so, elephant goes like this, it has four feet. I don't know whether there's any dist there should be any distance or not, but I think this is the easiest. And then we have it's trunk. And yep something like this. An eye, cute. Yeah, so Darren Price: Poor elephant. Bruce Gibson: and sometimes they have a hump. It seems that uh elephants are pretty friendly and they they have one very important way a different way of walking. So when they walk, wherever they are going to put their first feet, the second feet will always be. When they'll come to that position the second, the third feet will be there. That's the way they walk. And that's very peculiar about them. None of the other animals walk like this. And they are very useful to human beings. At least few few hundred years ago when there was no means of transportations or something, or when they had to carry huge um loads from one place to another, elephants were very useful. And they are found in um usually the warm countries. And um they are the biggest terrestrial animal. That's what I know about them. So, that's what I wanted to tell about Martin Gillard: So Bruce Gibson: elephants. Martin Gillard: is this uh an Indian or an African elephant, 'cause you haven't drawn Bruce Gibson: There Martin Gillard: the Bruce Gibson: are Martin Gillard: ears? Bruce Gibson: two kind of uh yeah, they are very different, Indian and African elephants. So Indian elephant is having one bump, I think, and the African have two. And then there's a difference in the trunk of the animals, these elephants who are Indian and So at some for some elephants it's the trunk is having one Do we have some message there? Darren Price: Yes. We have to I Bruce Gibson: Wind Darren Price: have Bruce Gibson: up? Darren Price: to catch you, sorry. Bruce Gibson: Okay, Darren Price: We have to to Bruce Gibson: some Darren Price: go through Bruce Gibson: other time. Darren Price: the meeting. Martin Gillard: Okay. Bruce Gibson: Thank you. Darren Price: Thank you. Martin Gillard: We can discuss that off-line. Darren Price: Yeah we'll discuss a f a fly or do we'll do another meeting abo on Bruce Gibson: Thanks. Darren Price: elephants. So so another important part of the project is about money, uh and about so about finances. So we should target selling price of twenty-five Euro for this remote control and uh we have um which which would generate a profit of of um fifty million Euros, okay. And we should target the inter an international market. Martin Gillard: So could I just ask one question, um is this a stand-alone unit that we're gonna be selling? So it's gonna be you already have a T_V_ but you're buying an extra remote control for it or something? Darren Price: O this is the next topic we have to discuss exactly, Martin Gillard: Okay, alright. Darren Price: so let's go to it. So um we should decide which kind of remote control we want to uh we want to uh we want to go. Should be should should it be um specific remote control to some specific device? Should it be a universal one? And uh etcetera. So um so I'm waiting for your for your inputs very quickly because we have only three three minutes to go. Martin Gillard: Okay well, so, it seems the the first thing that they've kinda specified is the price like based on how much profit we wanna make, which seems to a kind of a little strange if we don't know what the the product is yet, but I guess if that's if that's the requirement that we need to to design the the product to actually fit that that price bracket so, I guess we're gonna need to find out what's actually you know, what people ar are willing to pay for um what kind of product they're expecting for twenty-five Euro Darren Price: Okay. Martin Gillard: because it seems quite a lot for a remote control, so Darren Price: Okay Martin Gillard: it's Darren Price: I think this is more a job to our Bruce Gibson: Marketing Darren Price: market Bruce Gibson: person. Martin Gillard: Yeah. Darren Price: person yeah. Bruce Gibson: Mm-hmm. Darren Price: So it should be the topic of maybe of the next meeting just to to have an overview of this and uh in which direction we should go. So we need to close the meeting. Uh we'll have a new meeting soon and uh so the work every every of you ha have t d to do. So um you have to work on the on the working design, you have to uh work on the technical functions, and uh you have to work on us user requirements specs, alright? Daniel Chidester: Yeah. Darren Price: Um you will receive some information by emails, i as usual. Thanks for coming today. Martin Gillard: Okay. Bruce Gibson: Thanks. Darren Price: Thanks. Martin Gillard: Alright.	Darren Price Sebastian opens the meeting. The rest introduce themselves, including Michael the interface designer, Guillermo Daniel Chidester, and Hemant Bruce Gibson. Darren Price states the goal of the project, which is to develop a new remote control. It should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. He also mentions the three-step project- functional design, conceptual design, and detailed design. Then they take turns drawing their favorite animal on the white board. After that they briefly discuss finances. The remote control's target selling price of twenty-five Euro dollars and will be for the international market. They need to generate a profit of fifty million Euros. The question of whether the remote control should be for a specific device was brought up but not answered. Darren Price closes the meeting, telling each group member what he is responsible for and reminding them that they will receive more information by email.	3	amisum	train
Roger Wilson: Okay. Good afternoon again. So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of detail design of the of the remote Um So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two, sounds interesting. And we'll have um presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. we'll to finance evaluation the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro. Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting. So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_, no speech recognition technology, okay, we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons. And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let this uh wonderful thing. Kenneth Miller: Okay so we can go to the slides. Roger Wilson: Oh yeah. Sorry. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Um. Kenneth Miller: Number three. Oh number two sorry. Roger Wilson: Which is Kenneth Miller: So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead. Donald Dooley: Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow well to make a banana Roger Wilson: Yeah can you show it to the the Donald Dooley: remote Roger Wilson: camera maybe. Donald Dooley: okay so we actually have a Kenneth Miller: You can pull it out first, Donald Dooley: We've Kenneth Miller: maybe. Donald Dooley: well first first of all we made a an attractive base station uh with a banana leaf uh Roger Wilson: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: look and feel um and uh bana sit the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself, it's kind of it's it's ergonomic, it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've the two uh uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally. Roger Wilson: What's the use uh of the t turbo button already? Donald Dooley: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you Roger Wilson: Ah yeah yeah Donald Dooley: quickly Roger Wilson: an then you Donald Dooley: rather Roger Wilson: stop Donald Dooley: th Roger Wilson: when you stop it stops. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But Kenneth Miller: Uh Donald Dooley: normally with uh it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see Roger Wilson: Uh-huh. Donald Dooley: the Kenneth Miller: And Donald Dooley: the Kenneth Miller: we Donald Dooley: picture. Kenneth Miller: we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button, so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_. Donald Dooley: The T_V_ yeah. Roger Wilson: Which one? Donald Dooley: The s the Kenneth Miller: The Donald Dooley: turbo Kenneth Miller: turbo button. Donald Dooley: button. So Roger Wilson: Okay. Donald Dooley: rather than having uh Kenneth Miller: Additional Donald Dooley: an extra Kenneth Miller: button. Donald Dooley: button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button. James Crown: What this button for? Donald Dooley: This is a teletext button. James Crown: Okay. Donald Dooley: So once you press that then you get teletext and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh Roger Wilson: To navigate James Crown: But if Donald Dooley: To navigate Roger Wilson: it through Kenneth Miller: That's right, Donald Dooley: yeah. Roger Wilson: th through James Crown: you Kenneth Miller: that's Roger Wilson: teletext. Kenneth Miller: right. James Crown: want to go to page seven hundred? Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: with James Crown: How man Roger Wilson: the wheel it's easy. Donald Dooley: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing, you press the the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh James Crown: I don't understand it. Can you repeat it? Donald Dooley: Well you can you can press press the teletext button James Crown: Yeah. Donald Dooley: and then Kenneth Miller: then Donald Dooley: you then you Kenneth Miller: then Donald Dooley: can Kenneth Miller: both Donald Dooley: you can Kenneth Miller: scroll Donald Dooley: f Kenneth Miller: buttons they are for teletext browsing. And you can tele James Crown: Ah okay okay. Kenneth Miller: yeah, once James Crown: Okay. Kenneth Miller: you Donald Dooley: Mm Kenneth Miller: press James Crown: Okay Kenneth Miller: the teletext James Crown: okay. Donald Dooley: uh Kenneth Miller: button then the scroll buttons James Crown: Okay. Kenneth Miller: they are more for teletext, they are no more for channel or vol volume. James Crown: I see. I see. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. James Crown: Okay. Okay. Donald Dooley: And this is the uh the infrared uh port. Kenneth Miller: That's right. Donald Dooley: Also the top of the banana. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Excellent. Donald Dooley: So. And then we have in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh Roger Wilson: Calling. Donald Dooley: for calling the uh the banana. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Excellent. And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas? Donald Dooley: Actually they do. That's Roger Wilson: Oh. Donald Dooley: that's yeah that's uh that's Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Donald Dooley: form and function in the one in the one Kenneth Miller: So it Donald Dooley: uh Kenneth Miller: always Donald Dooley: object. Kenneth Miller: means, whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage. It's like antennas. Donald Dooley: Yeah. So. But yeah that's um that's just like that's an attractive um base station. Roger Wilson: Great. Donald Dooley: So. Okay. Roger Wilson: So, what else? Kenneth Miller: And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries. James Crown: Is it really weight? Is it light or Kenneth Miller: It is very light. Roger Wilson: Yeah, James Crown: Okay. Roger Wilson: they're Donald Dooley: It's Roger Wilson: light. Donald Dooley: it's uh it's about the weight of a banana. James Crown: Okay. Donald Dooley: You know, to give you the correct look and feel. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. James Crown: Ok Kenneth Miller: And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana. James Crown: Okay. Kenneth Miller: Otherwise it's you know James Crown: Yeah yeah yeah, I Kenneth Miller: a James Crown: see. Kenneth Miller: child comes James Crown: I under Kenneth Miller: and James Crown: I understand. Kenneth Miller: so Donald Dooley: I think a child would try to eat it anyway, so maybe Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Donald Dooley: we should consider that. maybe health and safety aspects. Roger Wilson: Ah yeah. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Oh we didn't think of that yet. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So for the power source, apparently you still you you want to use both solar cells and Kenneth Miller: Oh Roger Wilson: batteries. Kenneth Miller: yeah that's right. Roger Wilson: Uh you mean okay. So Donald Dooley: I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary Roger Wilson: Yeah, Donald Dooley: any more Roger Wilson: where Donald Dooley: if you have Roger Wilson: are Donald Dooley: a Roger Wilson: going Donald Dooley: recharging Roger Wilson: to Donald Dooley: base station. Roger Wilson: where are Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm Roger Wilson: you are Kenneth Miller: mm-hmm. Roger Wilson: you going to place them? Kenneth Miller: It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there. Donald Dooley: If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like Roger Wilson: You have enough Donald Dooley: uh the Roger Wilson: surface? Donald Dooley: black bit Roger Wilson: You Donald Dooley: but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells Kenneth Miller: Yeah because Donald Dooley: anymore. Kenneth Miller: now we are having rechargeable batteries Roger Wilson: Okay. Kenneth Miller: so Donald Dooley: Mm. Kenneth Miller: that that Roger Wilson: What Kenneth Miller: is. Roger Wilson: will be the autonomy? Roughly? Donald Dooley: The what sorry? Roger Wilson: The autonomy. Autonomy. Donald Dooley: What do you mean? Roger Wilson: Uh James Crown: How long Roger Wilson: I James Crown: the Roger Wilson: mean how James Crown: how long Roger Wilson: long does i James Crown: the Roger Wilson: how James Crown: bit Roger Wilson: how James Crown: the Donald Dooley: Ah. James Crown: batteries Roger Wilson: how long can James Crown: long. Roger Wilson: it be held off Donald Dooley: Ah. Roger Wilson: a station? Donald Dooley: A long time. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: Eight Roger Wilson: A long Kenneth Miller: to ten eight to ten hours. Donald Dooley: No no no, it can it should Kenneth Miller: N Donald Dooley: be Kenneth Miller: most Donald Dooley: weeks. Kenneth Miller: no most of the time it's not being used. Roger Wilson: Yeah, so it's Donald Dooley: Yeah Kenneth Miller: So when Donald Dooley: but y Kenneth Miller: when Donald Dooley: people Kenneth Miller: you are Donald Dooley: don't Kenneth Miller: making Donald Dooley: like Kenneth Miller: it Donald Dooley: to put Kenneth Miller: on Donald Dooley: it Roger Wilson: It's Donald Dooley: back in Roger Wilson: used Donald Dooley: the base Roger Wilson: only Donald Dooley: station Roger Wilson: when you Donald Dooley: all the time people Kenneth Miller: Mm. Donald Dooley: leave wanna leave it on the couch so Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working. If Donald Dooley: Ah, Kenneth Miller: you are just Donald Dooley: okay. Kenneth Miller: leaving like that it'll Donald Dooley: Okay. Kenneth Miller: be much longer. Roger Wilson: Yeah. F weeks. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: That's right. Roger Wilson: Right. Next slide? Kenneth Miller: Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it. Roger Wilson: Okay. Okay. Those really Kenneth Miller: That's right. Roger Wilson: sounds very good. Nothing else to add? Donald Dooley: It seems to be falling James Crown: l Donald Dooley: over. Roger Wilson: Yeah. James Crown: yeah. I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince James Crown the less is the the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit Kenneth Miller: You want to have more functional buttons? James Crown: Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say that. You the Kenneth Miller: You are James Crown: the Kenneth Miller: not James Crown: b Kenneth Miller: convinced. James Crown: the buttons change h h their function depending if Kenneth Miller: Not James Crown: y it's Kenneth Miller: not James Crown: teletext Kenneth Miller: many, we James Crown: or not Kenneth Miller: we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case, that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that, the channel buttons, they baco become the scrolling buttons. James Crown: And the volume button will will become Kenneth Miller: It's up to you, means. Now that Roger Wilson: Well in fact b both will be could be useful, navigating Kenneth Miller: Means Roger Wilson: through Kenneth Miller: let's Roger Wilson: teletext. Kenneth Miller: say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits. Donald Dooley: Or can move between positions Kenneth Miller: That's Donald Dooley: in Kenneth Miller: right. Donald Dooley: the in the number. James Crown: And Roger Wilson: Yeah. James Crown: what about people who want to use digits? Butto real buttons? Roger Wilson: Wow. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape. So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing, they they don't care about the buttons any more. James Crown: Okay. Kenneth Miller: And anyway James Crown: Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff? Donald Dooley: It's all automatic. James Crown: It's all automatic. Donald Dooley: Yep. James Crown: Okay. Okay yeah Roger Wilson: Very James Crown: it's fine. Roger Wilson: good James Crown: W Roger Wilson: uh yeah James Crown: we are living in a Roger Wilson: you James Crown: wonderful Roger Wilson: th James Crown: world. Roger Wilson: yeah. Donald Dooley: Uh. Roger Wilson: Bananas everywhere. Okay, so James Crown: Automatically configure. Roger Wilson: So we have to go through now Kenneth Miller: Evalua Roger Wilson: evaluations. Kenneth Miller: yeah. James Crown: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So James Crown: S Roger Wilson: your slides are ready? Uh you're four James Crown: Yeah. Roger Wilson: I think. So this is one, which one is this one? James Crown: Yeah. Okay. I I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven. Kenneth Miller: Why this strange factor of seven? James Crown: Because i I'm sorry. Sorry. Kenneth Miller: Usually I James Crown: Ah Kenneth Miller: have James Crown: yeah. Kenneth Miller: seen James Crown: It's Kenneth Miller: that James Crown: from Kenneth Miller: scales James Crown: sorry, Kenneth Miller: are from James Crown: it's Kenneth Miller: one James Crown: from Kenneth Miller: to ten. James Crown: one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: should be an even Roger Wilson: Num Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: uh Roger Wilson: number James Crown: scale, Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. James Crown: and five is too short and nine is too long. Kenneth Miller: Okay. Okay fine, got James Crown: I'm Kenneth Miller: the idea. James Crown: a I Roger Wilson: So to James Crown: I'm Roger Wilson: have in order to have enough granularity James Crown: Sorry? Roger Wilson: it's in order to have enough granularity James Crown: Yeah yeah. Roger Wilson: in the evaluation. Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: The variance is mi it's Roger Wilson: Okay. Kenneth Miller: Okay, James Crown: is minimal. Kenneth Miller: okay, great. James Crown: I'm um answering your question. Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: Okay. Kenneth Miller: Yeah yeah. Go ahead. James Crown: And that's the criteria I I found more useful. I think I sh I I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard? Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Sure. James Crown: And we all four could range Kenneth Miller: Okay. Yeah James Crown: could evaluate the Kenneth Miller: yeah. Yeah. Roger Wilson: Okay. Kenneth Miller: So you can say fancy, handy. Kenneth Miller: Handy. James Crown: Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or Kenneth Miller: Yeah, it's fancy, according to James Crown. James Crown: Seven but Roger Wilson: Yeah, six. Kenneth Miller: Seven. Roger Wilson: S seven. Kenneth Miller: Seven by James Crown. Roger Wilson: Six. James Crown: I would say seven. Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: It's quite fancy. Kenneth Miller: So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus Roger Wilson: No, wait. Donald Dooley: Yeah uh five. Roger Wilson: What do you say seven? Kenneth Miller: Five. Roger Wilson: Five? Donald Dooley: Five, maybe maybe maybe six it's it's I guess Roger Wilson: Okay, six Donald Dooley: it's Roger Wilson: point five. Donald Dooley: yeah. Roger Wilson: Handy? Kenneth Miller: Again I'll give seven. Roger Wilson: Seven. Donald Dooley: I'd give it a six like James Crown: Six. Donald Dooley: I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote, Kenneth Miller: Yep. Donald Dooley: 'cause of the scroll wheels but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote. Roger Wilson: So seven, Kenneth Miller: Seven Roger Wilson: seven, Kenneth Miller: for James Crown. Roger Wilson: six, Donald Dooley: Yeah. James Crown: Six. Roger Wilson: six point five. Functional. Kenneth Miller: I'll give five. Roger Wilson: Four. James Crown: I would say Donald Dooley: Well it depends when you say functional, do you mean it does what we want it to do, or d does what it does, you know, James Crown: Everything Donald Dooley: can it make James Crown: ar Donald Dooley: you coffee? You know. James Crown: Mm everything Roger Wilson: Uh for a remote control, does he have all the Donald Dooley: Yeah. Yeah. Roger Wilson: you James Crown: It's Roger Wilson: could James Crown: compared Roger Wilson: expect. James Crown: to the all Kenneth Miller: That's right. James Crown: remote controls. Kenneth Miller: That's Donald Dooley: That's before Kenneth Miller: right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf. Donald Dooley: Yeah. I have to say four. James Crown: Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal Donald Dooley: Well it's not a James Crown: remote Donald Dooley: universal James Crown: contro Donald Dooley: remote. Remember Kenneth Miller: We James Crown: Ah it's Donald Dooley: we're focus James Crown: not an univer Donald Dooley: we're supposed James Crown: but it's Donald Dooley: to focus James Crown: for all Donald Dooley: just James Crown: kind Donald Dooley: on T_V_s. James Crown: of T_V_s? Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: Well all T_V_s but only T_ only T_V_s I guess. Roger Wilson: So it's universal but for T_V_s. James Crown: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So s uh four? Kenneth Miller: Five. Roger Wilson: Five? Donald Dooley: Four. Roger Wilson: Four. James Crown: Four. Four. Kenneth Miller: So four point two? Donald Dooley: Just four. Roger Wilson: Four. Kenneth Miller: four. James Crown: So Donald Dooley: Obviously James Crown: four? Donald Dooley: there are some outliers so Roger Wilson: Okay cool? Cool device. Kenneth Miller: There I'll give it seven. James Crown: It means cool features, like new features actually. Kenneth Miller: That's right. Donald Dooley: Which Kenneth Miller: For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Seven. James Crown: I would say five. Donald Dooley: I'll say five. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Roger Wilson: Six. Kenneth Miller: Seven. Roger Wilson: Plus six, Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: I say I said seven. So it's Donald Dooley: S James Crown: You Roger Wilson: six. James Crown: said seven? Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: yeah. 'Cause it's five five seven seven so Kenneth Miller: Okay. Donald Dooley: Uh, okay, definitely easy Kenneth Miller: Definitely Donald Dooley: to use. Kenneth Miller: seven. Donald Dooley: Seven. Roger Wilson: Seven. Seven. And you? James Crown: Five. Roger Wilson: Outl you are not lik outlier. Seven James Crown: Sorry, Kenneth Miller: Okay. James Crown: I have Roger Wilson: Okay James Crown: them Roger Wilson: okay okay okay. Donald Dooley: Alright, now here's the sixty million Dollar question, well, twenty five twenty five Euro question. Roger Wilson: Of course I'll buy the banana. Donald Dooley: What do you what do you guys reckon? Kenneth Miller: I'll James Crown: Of Kenneth Miller: say Roger Wilson: Well James Crown: cour Kenneth Miller: five. James Crown: Of course the most difficult question for the end. Kenneth Miller: I'll Donald Dooley: Hmm. Kenneth Miller: say five. Roger Wilson: Twenty five Euros. James Crown: I find it quite cheap actually. I dunno. If i i it depends, Roger Wilson: Cheap. James Crown: if you live in in Switzerland or you live in Roger Wilson: Yeah, so the target price is for all Europe, or only for rich countries? It's more targeting U_K_ or James Crown: I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or Roger Wilson: So this is Donald Dooley: Uh Roger Wilson: selling costs, not production costs. James Crown: Yeah this Donald Dooley: Yeah. James Crown: is the the Donald Dooley: Yeah. James Crown: initial specifications. Roger Wilson: Yeah yeah sure. Um Five. James Crown: I would say six. It's quite cheap actually. Donald Dooley: I'd say two. Kenneth Miller: Why? Donald Dooley: I don't want a banana on my living room table, a Roger Wilson: Aw, Donald Dooley: banana remote. Roger Wilson: should Kenneth Miller: No Roger Wilson: be nice Kenneth Miller: but it's Roger Wilson: in Kenneth Miller: really Roger Wilson: your Kenneth Miller: handy actually if you see. Donald Dooley: It Kenneth Miller: It's Donald Dooley: is handy, Kenneth Miller: it's so handy. Donald Dooley: it's Kenneth Miller: And Donald Dooley: handy, Kenneth Miller: then Donald Dooley: but it it's terrible. Kenneth Miller: Anyb anybody Roger Wilson: It's Kenneth Miller: who Roger Wilson: kitsch. Kenneth Miller: comes Donald Dooley: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: here anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this. Donald Dooley: Yeah, but it's not a positive thing. Kenneth Miller: It's a very positive thing Donald Dooley: Well, Kenneth Miller: if Donald Dooley: you Kenneth Miller: you see Donald Dooley: know, Kenneth Miller: like that. Donald Dooley: it's it's handy, Roger Wilson: Well, Donald Dooley: it's ergonomic, Roger Wilson: don't forget Donald Dooley: but Roger Wilson: well, Donald Dooley: it's a banana. Roger Wilson: don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are Kenneth Miller: Youngsters. James Crown: Actually Roger Wilson: wh yeah, James Crown: maybe Roger Wilson: youngst youngst Donald Dooley: so. Roger Wilson: No well yeah I if James Crown: Yeah Roger Wilson: you would be young. Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance. Donald Dooley: No, it's I. Roger Wilson: Okay Donald Dooley: I would buy Roger Wilson: you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun Kenneth Miller: You want Roger Wilson: things. Kenneth Miller: to flaunt. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: You with your girlfriend or something. Roger Wilson: Yeah, you want to show the beautiful banana Donald Dooley: S Roger Wilson: you have. Kenneth Miller: Or might Donald Dooley: s Kenneth Miller: be it does some other kind of thing but Donald Dooley: Still I I'd say two. I don't think I at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control, really. Kenneth Miller: Uh yeah, crazy. Roger Wilson: Okay so Donald Dooley: I can Roger Wilson: you Donald Dooley: say, Roger Wilson: s you Donald Dooley: maybe Roger Wilson: give Donald Dooley: there is a market Roger Wilson: oh Donald Dooley: for it, Roger Wilson: yeah Donald Dooley: I dunno. Roger Wilson: yeah I know I know. So you say two. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: I say five. Roger Wilson: F I d I say five. You say? James Crown: I change the question. Roger Wilson: So what's Kenneth Miller: And Roger Wilson: the Kenneth Miller: you Roger Wilson: new Kenneth Miller: have saved Roger Wilson: question? Kenneth Miller: it? James Crown: So yeah upload the Kenneth Miller: You'll have to reload. Roger Wilson: Uh yeah, I think so. Donald Dooley: Okay, so, it depends if uh James Crown: Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one. Roger Wilson: Yeah that's two Donald Dooley: If Roger Wilson: different Donald Dooley: I had Roger Wilson: question. Donald Dooley: t if I had to spend twenty five Euro, if that was like my limit, maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look Kenneth Miller: They're not Roger Wilson: Ugly. Donald Dooley: worse Kenneth Miller: going to be Donald Dooley: than Kenneth Miller: as Donald Dooley: a banana. Kenneth Miller: And they they might not be a as easy as Donald Dooley: And Kenneth Miller: this Donald Dooley: it yeah Kenneth Miller: yeah. Donald Dooley: this is gonna f you know handy to use. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. James Crown: So? What Kenneth Miller: S James Crown: now? Roger Wilson: I stick James Crown: What Roger Wilson: to five. James Crown: range? Kenneth Miller: I go Donald Dooley: Although Kenneth Miller: slightly Donald Dooley: it still Kenneth Miller: up. Donald Dooley: has Kenneth Miller: Six. Donald Dooley: it still James Crown: Six. Donald Dooley: has the word of course at the beginning so I dunno. Um. Roger Wilson: W we have six, Donald Dooley: I'd Roger Wilson: five Donald Dooley: give it I'd give it a Roger Wilson: Three Donald Dooley: I give it a four now. Roger Wilson: So we are James Crown: Six? Six? Kenneth Miller: Six, Roger Wilson: six, Kenneth Miller: five, Roger Wilson: five, Kenneth Miller: four. Roger Wilson: four James Crown: Six, so it's uh five point five, or less. Roger Wilson: Yeah. So Kenneth Miller: Okay. Roger Wilson: So and last question, will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um, zero. No uh we can't. So one. James Crown: Actually yeah, I we Roger Wilson: Well if. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: let's say I'll put two. Donald Dooley: I'd say three, I mean my remote control is kinda at home is pretty terrible. If it was change my remote control of my D_V_D_ player for a Mando banana then I would be more inclined to Roger Wilson: It's for the T_V_. Donald Dooley: but uh 'cause it's really bad but uh I'd say a three. Kenneth Miller: I'll still give it five. James Crown: Five? Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Two three James Crown: You Roger Wilson: five James Crown: are romantic, really. I Roger Wilson: two James Crown: would Roger Wilson: three James Crown: say two. Roger Wilson: fi and two. Kenneth Miller: So Roger Wilson: So Kenneth Miller: it's Roger Wilson: it's Kenneth Miller: somewhere Roger Wilson: r Kenneth Miller: three point five I Roger Wilson: Yeah, Kenneth Miller: think. Roger Wilson: three point five. James Crown: Who is the outlier? Wh wh you said five? Kenneth Miller: No Roger Wilson: No Kenneth Miller: I said Roger Wilson: no Kenneth Miller: five. Roger Wilson: you say five, he is the outlier. Okay just just do a sum. James Crown: I don't know if it's a Donald Dooley: It's not very promising but you know we're James Crown: No Donald Dooley: not young trendsetters. James Crown: because there are more yeah, we shouldn't sum like that. Roger Wilson: Well maybe we should we should uh have James Crown: Because Roger Wilson: a look globally James Crown: the the Roger Wilson: glob James Crown: last two questions is much more important than the rest actually. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. James Crown: Otherwise we wouldn't Donald Dooley: Is James Crown: we will Donald Dooley: there some James Crown: not sell. Donald Dooley: some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up? James Crown: Uh no I didn't anything. Donald Dooley: Well just leave it at that then. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: Oops. James Crown: Yeah, the Roger Wilson: So maybe James Crown: uh Roger Wilson: maybe w we can we should stick to general feeling. James Crown: Yeah. Roger Wilson: We can had uh have a out of these numbers, which which is that well we should go for it. James Crown: Do Roger Wilson: Problem James Crown: you want James Crown Roger Wilson: with James Crown: to sum Roger Wilson: connectors? James Crown: o I think Donald Dooley: No. James Crown: it's not Donald Dooley: I think it it Kenneth Miller: Yeah Donald Dooley: kind Kenneth Miller: it's Donald Dooley: of Kenneth Miller: it's Donald Dooley: you just Kenneth Miller: funny. Donald Dooley: lose information if you sum it, Roger Wilson: Okay. Donald Dooley: so. Roger Wilson: So let's move uh let's move on. Kenneth Miller: Yeah, sure. Roger Wilson: Okay, now now we have to mm to estimate uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here, okay. We are going to go through so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: Well we decided against the solar cells so Roger Wilson: Oh Kenneth Miller: Solar cells, Roger Wilson: yeah finally Kenneth Miller: yeah yeah Roger Wilson: we say Kenneth Miller: yeah Roger Wilson: no. Kenneth Miller: yeah yeah, Roger Wilson: Okay Kenneth Miller: we said no to Roger Wilson: so Kenneth Miller: that. Roger Wilson: let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But Donald Dooley: You mean, charging it by shaking the banana. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. bring Roger Wilson: Okay Kenneth Miller: the cost Roger Wilson: so we we stick to battery, one. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo. Donald Dooley: Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually Roger Wilson: Ah you have to ah okay I see so kinetic is James Crown: S Roger Wilson: really uh shaking the banana. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So Kenneth Miller: Okay. Roger Wilson: we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the. Kenneth Miller: So we have the regular chip on the print, Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: which is one. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: And that's it. Roger Wilson: Okay. No so we hin Kenneth Miller: And we have sample speaker. Roger Wilson: Yeah so Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: one. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. the cost of that is very high. Roger Wilson: Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. Donald Dooley: Well Roger Wilson: So we Donald Dooley: actually Roger Wilson: are Donald Dooley: that that no that sample speaker is not we we're not using that, we're just using the Roger Wilson: The beep. Donald Dooley: the very beep simple beep, that Kenneth Miller: Uh-huh. Donald Dooley: s that sample thing is Roger Wilson: That's Donald Dooley: like Roger Wilson: what Donald Dooley: the voice recording and Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: everything. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Roger Wilson: Okay so Donald Dooley: So Roger Wilson: I'll remove it. Donald Dooley: Yeah. I Roger Wilson: S Donald Dooley: say that Yeah. Kenneth Miller: And we have Roger Wilson: So Kenneth Miller: sev Roger Wilson: don't we need a Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So Kenneth Miller: So we we'll put some extras, if there is Roger Wilson: Yeah Kenneth Miller: something. Roger Wilson: maybe. We'll see Donald Dooley: Mm. Roger Wilson: later. Okay so in for the case um I put single curved. Kenneth Miller: Okay. To reduce the cost, it's okay. Donald Dooley: Well, wait a second, Roger Wilson: Because we Donald Dooley: no, Roger Wilson: have two Donald Dooley: it's Roger Wilson: things. Donald Dooley: it's double curved, it's got a c, Kenneth Miller: Oh Donald Dooley: it's Kenneth Miller: it's Donald Dooley: uh Roger Wilson: No. Kenneth Miller: got all the directions so don't worry. Donald Dooley: Well d yeah it's monotonic but Kenneth Miller: It's got a direction. Donald Dooley: it's got but if you hold it if you hold it that way that's two curved, one on this side, one on that side, but they're opposite Roger Wilson: Well. Donald Dooley: sides. James Crown: Actually Roger Wilson: What a James Crown: what's Roger Wilson: what Donald Dooley: This James Crown: the differen Donald Dooley: is actually Roger Wilson: i Donald Dooley: I mean Roger Wilson: if Donald Dooley: this probably Roger Wilson: I put one here. Donald Dooley: this probably actually costs more than three Roger Wilson: Yeah Donald Dooley: if Roger Wilson: so Donald Dooley: you Roger Wilson: let's put one here in the then Kenneth Miller: Okay. Roger Wilson: instead of Kenneth Miller: Okay. Roger Wilson: single oka all right. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So we stick to plastic, it cost Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: nothing. Kenneth Miller: That's right. Donald Dooley: Well no didn't we say we wanted to do a rubber Roger Wilson: No, it's too no. Donald Dooley: if you drop it? James Crown: Too Roger Wilson: It's James Crown: expensive. Roger Wilson: too expensive. Donald Dooley: Well when Roger Wilson: We're Donald Dooley: okay. Roger Wilson: already at Donald Dooley: Well Roger Wilson: eleven. Donald Dooley: we we'll come back we'll come back and see if we can fit it in. Roger Wilson: Okay so I put rubber one. Okay so special colour, yellow. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Uh for the interface we have Kenneth Miller: We don't have any push buttons. Donald Dooley: No, we have two push buttons. Roger Wilson: We have three. Kenneth Miller: No that is a scroll wheel itself, Donald Dooley: Huh. Kenneth Miller: it'll be put in that. Roger Wilson: No no. We have Kenneth Miller: Ah Roger Wilson: two scroll, Kenneth Miller: okay, okay. Roger Wilson: and Donald Dooley: Uh. Roger Wilson: we have three push buttons. Kenneth Miller: Okay, okay. James Crown: Actually Donald Dooley: Okay Roger Wilson: And James Crown: whe Donald Dooley: it's gonna James Crown: whe Donald Dooley: have to be plastic. James Crown: when you wrote regular chip you should put two, because there is another chip here. Roger Wilson: No it's no chip. This is just radio frequency. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Th This James Crown: Yeah Roger Wilson: is James Crown: but Roger Wilson: no chip. Kenneth Miller: No. James Crown: you Kenneth Miller: There's James Crown: need Kenneth Miller: no chip there. It just emits the signal. Roger Wilson: It's just Kenneth Miller: And the receiver accepts it and Roger Wilson: Yeah. James Crown: Fo Kenneth Miller: that's James Crown: i Kenneth Miller: it. James Crown: it does nothing actually? Roger Wilson: No. Kenneth Miller: Just Roger Wilson: Just Kenneth Miller: se sends the signal, Roger Wilson: only. Kenneth Miller: that's it. Donald Dooley: It's a recharger thing and uh Roger Wilson: Okay w we didn't think a thought about uh integrated scroll wheel push buttons. Donald Dooley: Well I actually did um think about it myself but I thought you know because you could potentially you know you could be pushing it down as you scroll it for a instead of a turbo Roger Wilson: Yeah, Donald Dooley: button but you know the turbo Roger Wilson: so Donald Dooley: button does add that extra class. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: You know. So I mean if we're if we're over budget then maybe we could we could rethink that. Roger Wilson: Okay. So no L_C_D_, so for we have no button supplements, Kenneth Miller: Yep. Roger Wilson: right? Kenneth Miller: No. Roger Wilson: Uh well in fact could we could not we consider this button as a button supplement because oh no, these are these are for colours, co and special forms, special Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: colours and special materials. Donald Dooley: No we're not we Roger Wilson: So Donald Dooley: don't need anything special for Roger Wilson: Okay Donald Dooley: the buttons. Roger Wilson: so we are over budget. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. So first thing which we should take care of is, Donald Dooley: Make it Kenneth Miller: instead Donald Dooley: plastic Kenneth Miller: of Donald Dooley: instead Kenneth Miller: rubber, Donald Dooley: of rubber. Kenneth Miller: let Roger Wilson: Yeah. Kenneth Miller: it be plastic. Donald Dooley: And then we're basically o on budget except for you know ten cents. Kenneth Miller: And uh that much money will be required for the base station, which is not there. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: So mayb in fact n we have to put two here because it cost nothing. Donald Dooley: Yeah well Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Donald Dooley: pl the base station is made Kenneth Miller: That's Donald Dooley: out Kenneth Miller: right. Donald Dooley: of m many Kenneth Miller: So Donald Dooley: units of plastic. Kenneth Miller: might be ninety centimes for the the remaining things which the cord and everything Roger Wilson: Exactly Kenneth Miller: which'll go Roger Wilson: exactly so we have margin for that stuff. Kenneth Miller: That's right. Donald Dooley: Does that include charging circuitry and everything? Roger Wilson: Yeah maybe. Okay good. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Wha Excellent. Donald Dooley: So what do we do with the extra profits? Roger Wilson: Um we'll invest in R_ and D_. Donald Dooley: Okay. The next fruit. Roger Wilson: Yeah. So well we're under the the the cost. So we can go to through to project evaluation. James Crown: Okay so now we have a product which nobody would would buy. Would yeah, would buy. Roger Wilson: Sorry? Donald Dooley: No we have James Crown: Yeah Donald Dooley: a product James Crown: because Donald Dooley: which none of us would James Crown: th Donald Dooley: buy. James Crown: th the evaluation Roger Wilson: Which is James Crown: project Roger Wilson: different. Which is different. None of us will buy it. Donald Dooley: No it's people in in in Milan and uh in Paris James Crown: Ah would buy, Donald Dooley: that James Crown: yeah. Donald Dooley: are gonna buy it. James Crown: Massively, Donald Dooley: We're n James Crown: yeah. Donald Dooley: yeah. We're not in Milan or Paris. James Crown: Yeah. Okay. Uh you have been in Milan a couple of times, so. Donald Dooley: Actually Roger Wilson: This Donald Dooley: there Roger Wilson: is Donald Dooley: were a lot Roger Wilson: a Donald Dooley: of Roger Wilson: battery. James Crown: And you said the lowest. Roger Wilson: This is Kenneth Miller: S Roger Wilson: what we which you can mm Kenneth Miller: Detachable battery. Donald Dooley: That's 'cause I'm Roger Wilson: It Donald Dooley: sick Roger Wilson: did Donald Dooley: of Roger Wilson: yeah. James Crown: Yeah, for Donald Dooley: Milan. James Crown: the batteries Roger Wilson: Extra battery, yeah. Exac Donald Dooley: Okay so um project process. Roger Wilson: Well in fact I I did not know I didn't know really what to say here. If uh if you have any ideas of what we can we can say. So I don't I don't I don't understand what what they mean by satisfaction um and for and for example. Should it be more like um like a status of of the these meetings in fact. Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: Yeah well in fact uh we we use a little bit the white board and the digital pen, not that much. Donald Dooley: I dunno I think we had a fair bit of creativity. Roger Wilson: Oh yeah it's really creative. Donald Dooley: And uh but I think one thing we m missed out of this whole process was a um like a focus group with the actual people we're targeting. We needed some of these kind of young trendsetters Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: to come in and play with the banana and you know see if they Kenneth Miller: They like that. Donald Dooley: see if they like it. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Roger Wilson: Yeah maybe we should go through, yeah an uh evaluation. Donald Dooley: Because yeah the evaluation for us is is kind of Kenneth Miller: Biased. Donald Dooley: pointless. Roger Wilson: So maybe you should we should do a kinda evaluation in the streets like asking to young peoples well, do you like Donald Dooley: Yeah. Roger Wilson: to have a banana as a remote control. Donald Dooley: Because Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: it it would also be interesting to uh you to know find out if we have a market in really young children as well, to see you know how to how to market this thing. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Donald Dooley: 'Cause you know if well I mean maybe you don't wanna give all your kids their own remote because they'll be changing the channel all the time but you know maybe in some households where there is you know a T_V_ for each kid, then you know, banana remote control could be fun for them as well. Might Roger Wilson: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: have to draw a face on it. So but I think that's something we need to to work on next time is really finding out more about the target market. Roger Wilson: Yep. Any any new ideas we could uh we could investigate next time? Dunno, oranges? Kenneth Miller: Yeah. The cost of the thing can be made more than might be. Because I think it's just the optimal, what we have done for the cost which we are looking forward to. Donald Dooley: Yeah. I think there are ways we could maybe simplify the Kenneth Miller: Interface. Donald Dooley: Well James Crown: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: just the the the circuit board that we're using inside, I'm Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: not sure really how complicated our um our needs are. I mean all we have is two push buttons and two scrollers, do we really need an integrated circuit to Roger Wilson: Hmm. Donald Dooley: you Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: know to process Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: that. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. James Crown: So more general remote control instead of just focusing on uh on T_V_. Kenneth Miller: That's James Crown: The complexity Kenneth Miller: right. James Crown: shouldn't be much higher. Kenneth Miller: Yeah. James Crown: For you said if it good for D_V_D_ then I Donald Dooley: And James Crown: would Donald Dooley: also fo you know for mood lighting and and stuff, that would be rather cool. I think that's actually something that should be in version two, is the ability to you know to control Kenneth Miller: Integrate. Donald Dooley: things other than the T_V_ and not just electronic equipment but you Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: know the whole environment of the room. Roger Wilson: Okay. Very good. Kenneth Miller: So Roger Wilson: So Kenneth Miller: What else? Roger Wilson: Well done. I Kenneth Miller: Okay. Roger Wilson: think we we can go Kenneth Miller: Home? Roger Wilson: home. Kenneth Miller: Happily satisfied. Roger Wilson: Yeah. Maybe maybe we can hassle the the production department to to make a a real prototype that we can use at home to to evaluate. Kenneth Miller: Mm-hmm. Donald Dooley: Yep. Roger Wilson: Okay so thanks very much. Kenneth Miller: Thank Donald Dooley: Okay. Kenneth Miller: you. Roger Wilson: Bye. Donald Dooley: Thank you. James Crown: Bye.	Roger Wilson goes through the minutes of the last meeting. They have the prototype presentation and talk about the final design, features, and power source, type of chip and weight of the remote. They go through the evaulations, using the a list of criteria made by James Crown. They rate each criteria on a scale of 0 (true) to 7 (false): how fancy it is, how handy it is, how functional, how cool it is, whether they would spend twenty five euro for it, and whether they would change their current remote for this one. Next they do a cost estimate for production. In doing this, they decide against solar cells and go with the rechargable batteries. They keep the regular chip, stick with plastic, put two scroll wheels and three push buttons, and make it a special shade of yellow. They eliminate the turbo button and give the remote a single curve because of budget restrictions. They briefly evaulate the project process and close the meeting.	3	amisum	train
Michael Turzak: Now what. James Fairey: 'Kay, hello everybody. Uh, I guess you all know what is it about, you all received the email, I guess. Uh, we are actually doing this meeting to start a new project which is about designing a remote control. So I'm going to be James Fairey of this uh project. And uh so I'm present myself. I'm Fabien Cardinaux and uh I I guess you can present yourself. So I dunno, you can starts. Michael Turzak: Okay, so my name is. You can call Robert Roberts Petre, or Peter if you like. I don't care. James Fairey: Okay. Robert Roberts: Uh my name's Bob James Fairey: And Robert Roberts: Mor. James Fairey: you are? In the project? Michael Turzak: Uh, Robert Roberts: Oh, sorry. Michael Turzak: in the project I'm supposed to be the technic. Robert Roberts: 'Kay. So my name's Bob Morris. I'm Robert Roberts for this project. Michael Turzak: Bob, Robert Roberts: Bob Michael Turzak: okay. Robert Roberts: yeah. William Mcfadden: My name is Hamed Getabdar, uh I'm going to be Interface Designer in this project. Michael Turzak: Okay. James Fairey: So, uh, so today we are doing a short meeting to present the project, so um We are gooding we are going to present the tool we are we are going to use during all this project. We are talking about the project plan, and we are going to to discuss about st our first ideas and so on, and, yeah. So we have around twenty five minutes to do this meeting. Um. So what is the goal of this project? Is to design a new remote control. So it should be, of course, new and original, and um it should be trendy, and user friendly. That mean it's a very challenging project, and uh uh. So w it's we will try to do our best, and hopefully come with something very new and that people want to buy. So, um So what's uh what are we going to do during this all this project? So it's more like we are going to do inv individual work all in o in o our specialities and we are going to meet each other quite often to discuss and to find a good way. Um. James Fairey: Yeah and everything is will be like this. Um so now we are going to to get used t to to the tools we are going to use all during all this project. So we can try to use uh the whiteboard here. So Michael Turzak: Okay. James Fairey: uh. For example we can try to write what is our our favourite animal and write the f our favourite characteristics about it. Mm. James Fairey: Uh. So uh James Fairey: So I will ask you all to do the same. Michael Turzak: Okay. James Fairey: Just to get used to the whiteboard. Michael Turzak: So probably I would try to try to draw the animal. Well sh should I draw the picture of the animal? I I th James Fairey: Yeah, Michael Turzak: I James Fairey: yeah, Robert Roberts: Yeah James Fairey: you Michael Turzak: think James Fairey: can Michael Turzak: I Robert Roberts: go Michael Turzak: should. James Fairey: draw Robert Roberts: ahead. James Fairey: the picture, of course. Michael Turzak: Okay, so. Um. Okay, American, um. Um. use the bird. So I tried to sketch it out. I had to first uh write it down because I am not absolutely sure if I can draw it, but ah. Can you recognise it as a bird? Okay Robert Roberts: Okay, Michael Turzak: it's your turn to Robert Roberts: okay. Robert Roberts: So I think my favourite animal would be a c a cat. James Fairey: Oh. Robert Roberts: That's its head. Um I probably like cats the most because they're cuddly and furry and uh playful. Okay. William Mcfadden: I dunno if I should go Michael Turzak: Oh it's William Mcfadden: with Michael Turzak: okay. Robert Roberts: Thanks. William Mcfadden: this. If it is enough line. I'm sorry. Robert Roberts: Maybe put it up Put it a Maybe put it on the desk or something. Michael Turzak: Yeah. I should get used to the tool, so. William Mcfadden: Okay. Michael Turzak: Oh just wait a little bit. C could we put it here, to make it as straight as possible? Ah probably not. William Mcfadden: They Michael Turzak: Okay, William Mcfadden: should be remote. Robert Roberts: that's better. Michael Turzak: it it works like this. William Mcfadden: Okay, thanks. Robert Roberts: Your lapel microphone's fallen off. Michael Turzak: Are you left-handed? William Mcfadden: No. Michael Turzak: Oh, pity. William Mcfadden: Okay. Should I clean? Okay, I think like horses uh because they are strong and beautiful, so if I want to write it here, I think I can. James Fairey: Never mind. Michael Turzak: Ah, it's maybe Robert Roberts: Yeah. Michael Turzak: better if you leave it. Robert Roberts: Yeah. Maybe we should just continue. James Fairey: Yeah. Robert Roberts: Yeah, don't worry about it. James Fairey: no Robert Roberts: No. James Fairey: worry. William Mcfadden: Okay. Michael Turzak: You won't draw them, James Fairey: You can Michael Turzak: or? James Fairey: draw it, if you William Mcfadden: I dunno if I can. James Fairey: want. Michael Turzak: Just try. I would like to William Mcfadden: Okay. Michael Turzak: see how it looks like. William Mcfadden: It may be like a cow or I dunno, whatever. I'm not good very good in drawing. Okay, so this is very It's a bird, I think. I dunno what is it. Michael Turzak: No, I think it's clear. William Mcfadden: Four. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. I'm shameful Robert Roberts: Oh Michael Turzak: It's okay. It's Robert Roberts: that's Michael Turzak: in James Fairey: Good. Robert Roberts: good, it's good. Michael Turzak: it's indeed beautiful. Robert Roberts: Yeah, and strong. William Mcfadden: Yeah. Okay. Michael Turzak: Okay. Bob. Have to remember it. Bob. James Fairey: So good um So, let's talk about money. Uh we are going to to sell we want to sell uh this remote control for twenty five Euro Euro. And uh our expected profit will be around fifty million Euro. And uh we are trying to to have a market all around the world. So n not only for Switzerland, but for the world. Uh. So, um. The We expect a production cost of maximum uh twelve point fifty Euro. Michael Turzak: Per unit, I guess. James Fairey: Yeah, Michael Turzak: Y James Fairey: of course. Michael Turzak: oh okay. James Fairey: Um, so we can start today to have a first idea of what we want to do what are our experiments with remote control, and any idea? So, if you have some experience, good or bad, with remote controls you can share it and say what you f what is your idea. Anything. Michael Turzak: Okay. Robert Roberts: Well, from experience, um I've had remote controls in the past that have had very they've had lots and lots of buttons and they've been very small, and it's been very hard to to to use, because there's so many buttons, and you know it's very hard to see which buttons do what, and the buttons are very small and very hard to press. Um and and normally you only every use, you know, on a T_V_ remote you only ever use, mostly, you know, f four James Fairey: Mm. Robert Roberts: or f six Michael Turzak: Oh. Robert Roberts: buttons. Um. So it's frustrated Robert Roberts in the past, th that. Michael Turzak: Okay, I have also some points uh. Maybe two points. Uh first would be that in current remote controls there is no back light, so if you are if you are uh playing with this in the dark room it's James Fairey: Yeah. Michael Turzak: it's probably worth to to have something like uh back light. And maybe it could be also dependant on the the amount of of light in the room, so that if if it's in the day it doesn't need to be back lighted because it works on the battery, so. So something like this. And the second thing, f second point from Robert Roberts would be that in a normal remote control there is uh there are two buttons for volume control. But James Fairey: Yeah. Michael Turzak: I prefer like a potential-meter or something like. Robert Roberts: Ah, okay. Okay. Michael Turzak: You know, some slider James Fairey: Okay. Michael Turzak: or William Mcfadden: Mm-hmm. Michael Turzak: Not Robert Roberts: Okay, Michael Turzak: just two Robert Roberts: n Michael Turzak: discrete buttons for volume, but something which James Fairey: Mm-hmm. Robert Roberts: Is that because James Fairey: Yeah. Robert Roberts: the of the discrete volume levels, or is that Michael Turzak: Yeah, but I can reach In uh one second I can mute it down, or Robert Roberts: Yeah. James Fairey: Are Michael Turzak: or make James Fairey: you not afraid Michael Turzak: a James Fairey: that Michael Turzak: high volume. James Fairey: if you take your remote control you can move the slide and it could the the Michael Turzak: Ah, James Fairey: volume can Michael Turzak: n. James Fairey: go up very quickly and it Michael Turzak: If James Fairey: can Michael Turzak: it drops to the floor then it starts James Fairey: Yeah, also Michael Turzak: to scream. James Fairey: if y when you take the the remote control, for example on the table, you take it and you push the button and everything is very loud, and you have Michael Turzak: Yeah, James Fairey: a heart attack. Michael Turzak: f It depends what what you feel about that. James Fairey: Okay. Robert Roberts: Yeah. Michael Turzak: Yeah but we can we can think of these things afterwards, but if you have some James Fairey: Yeah William Mcfadden: Uh Michael Turzak: more notes James Fairey: so William Mcfadden: I James Fairey: you Michael Turzak: on James Fairey: can Michael Turzak: that. James Fairey: Do you William Mcfadden: Yeah, James Fairey: have something? William Mcfadden: just a simple experience. I uh I prefer um remote control working with radio waves, because remote control working with infra-red rays James Fairey: Yeah, William Mcfadden: you should James Fairey: that's true. William Mcfadden: you should you should keep it in a specific direction and then try James Fairey: Yeah William Mcfadden: it hard James Fairey: without William Mcfadden: to James Fairey: obstacles William Mcfadden: tune. James Fairey: and. Michael Turzak: Okay. James Fairey: Okay. Michael Turzak: Um. James Fairey: Let's continue. I have a meeting in five minutes, so Robert Roberts: Okay. James Fairey: maybe we should hurry. Michael Turzak: Okay, James Fairey: Um. Michael Turzak: just a second. James Fairey: So we will close uh this meeting. So we will have a next meeting in uh thirty minutes. Um. Uh. The So I will ask you to do some work. Uh the the interface interface developer will work on the on the design of the remote control, start to to have new idea and Michael Turzak: Which i which is Hamed, James Fairey: read about William Mcfadden: Mm. Michael Turzak: Okay. James Fairey: Yeah. Robert Roberts: He's Michael Turzak? No, you're Michael Turzak. William Mcfadden: Yeah. Michael Turzak: Uh I am the Technical James Fairey: Oh. Michael Turzak: Designer, I dunno Robert Roberts: Yeah, I Michael Turzak: which Robert Roberts: think Michael Turzak: one, Robert Roberts: that's Michael Turzak: uh James Fairey: Industry Robert Roberts: the first. James Fairey: and Michael Turzak: v. William Mcfadden: Uh-huh. James Fairey: Oh. Robert Roberts: I_D_. Industrial Designer. And the second one is William Mcfadden. William Mcfadden: Mm-hmm. Michael Turzak: User Robert Roberts: And Michael Turzak: Interf Robert Roberts: then Michael Turzak: Okay. Robert Roberts: last one's marketing, which is James Fairey: Yeah. Robert Roberts: Robert Roberts. Michael Turzak: Okay, so I'm the first James Fairey: So, Michael Turzak: one. James Fairey: um For William Mcfadden, which is Hamed William Mcfadden: Mm-hmm. James Fairey: um, uh, you Michael Turzak: I James Fairey: are going Michael Turzak: see. James Fairey: to work on the technical functions of the remote control. William Mcfadden: Okay. James Fairey: And for the Marketing uh Manager, I dunno, okay, which is Bob, uh you are going to try to to find the user requirements f uh for the remote control. Um, you will receive by email uh the specific instructions and uh by your personal coach. Michael Turzak: Sign. James Fairey: Yep finished. So I see you in thirty minutes. Robert Roberts: Great, okay. Michael Turzak: Okay. William Mcfadden: Okay, Robert Roberts: Thanks guys. Bye. William Mcfadden: thanks. Bye. James Fairey: Thank you. Michael Turzak: Uh.	James Fairey opened the meeting and had the team members introduce themselves by name and their role in the project. James Fairey introduced the upcoming project to the team and then had the team members participate in a tool training exercise in which each member drew his favorite animal on the white board and discussed what he liked about the animal. James Fairey also discussed selling prices and the project budget. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes, focusing on various features they would like to see in the remote they will produce, as well as features they find unappealing in current remotes.	3	amisum	train
John Chisum: So um nice to see you again. Uh. So, uh. Tod uh for this meeting I will take the notes and do the minutes. Uh so we will see our three presentations. Um we will start with the uh Manager Expert wi who will talk about uh user re requirements, whats user needs and what it desire for this devi device. Charles Navarrete: Okay, can I have the laptop over John Chisum: Yep. Charles Navarrete: here, John Chisum: Oh, I don't think so. I think you Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: have Charles Navarrete: Have to get John Chisum: to Charles Navarrete: up. John Chisum: come here. I dunno. I think it should stay. Charles Navarrete: Excuse Charles Navarrete. Glenn Chaffin: Yeah, that's it. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: Should stay in the square here. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: Oh, maybe. Charles Navarrete: Okay, so basically I'm gonna present John Chisum: Oh, Charles Navarrete: some John Chisum: you Charles Navarrete: findings John Chisum: can put it here. Charles Navarrete: of a study we conducted John Chisum: Oh that's okay, it's jus Charles Navarrete: uh into uh what users want in this remote control. Um so first of all we what we did is we um conducted a an experiment with a hundred test subjects. Um we put them in a in our um usability laboratory and got them to, you know, um play with remote controls and also to complete, after they'd done that, to complete a questionnaire uh to tell us what they like and what they don't like in remote controls. So basically um the major things we found out was that um basically users don't like the look and feel of of most remote controls that are currently on the market. Um they, you know, seventy five percent of the people we we uh did the experiments on, found that rem remote the remote controls that they'd used in the past were ugly. Completely ugly. Um they they didn't match the operating behaviour of the user, that is, you know, the the way users use remote controls when they're watching T_V_. Um, that the layout of the remote controls didn't match they way that they used it. Um and thirdly they say that w half of the users that we um tested said that they only used ten percent of the buttons that uh are on remote controls. Um so we collect we also some collected some usage statistics uh based on how these test subjects were using their remote control. And from this we basically came up with the figure that the channel buttons, the channel selection buttons are the most by far the most used buttons on the remote control. Um and you can see they're used a hundred and sixty eight times per hour on average, um, while the user's watching T_V_. Um the closest button that was used, well the cl the button that was used that was closest to the channel button was the teletext button, um which was used fourteen times per hour, followed by the volume button, which was four times per hour, um, all the other, all the other um buttons, such as ch um audio and picture selection um configuration buttons and things were used, you know, l approx well less than or equal to one times per hour. Um we also asked users um which buttons had the most importance to them, you know, which which buttons they felt were the most important buttons on on the remote control. And basically they came they said the channel, volume, and power buttons had the highest relevance to users, um note that only power was very infrequently used, it only had a b a a fr usage frequency of about one times per hour, but users ranked it as having a very very high relevance. Um and the audio and picture settings had a very that well the users thought that um w the audio and picture settings were very uh weren't very important to them um, and they used them very infrequently a as well. So we asked users what what um frustrates them the most about um current remote controls. And fifty percent of the users said that uh what frustrates them is losing the remote control um somewhere in the room and not being able to find it. Um they also said that it um it takes a lot of time to learn a new remote control, especially when there's many buttons and it's a, you know, a c a a unintuitive interface. Um and then thirdly, they some users commented on the fact that the the you know the way that you have to hold and press buttons on a remote control ar are bad and um cause u repetitive strain injury. We also asked some users about some specific features that they'd like to see in the on the remote control. In particular, do they want an L_C_D_ d display, and secondly, do they think speech recognition uh is a useful feature to have on a remote control. Um basically our findings are that um amongst a younger age groups uh the answer is umv overwhelmingly yes. They want these features, they want these high technology features. Um for instance, ninety one percent of pe of people aged between fifteen and twenty five said yes, they want these features. Whereas um the the trend was as users as users um became older and older uh they were less likely to want these sort of features in a um in a remote control. So I guess it depends on where we're focusing our our market. Um and as our company motto is putting fashion in electronics, um I think we're focusing on the younger younger um target demographic, and so maybe we should think about adding these sort of high technology features into our remote control. John Chisum: Hmm. Charles Navarrete: That's my dic that's my presentation. Thank you. John Chisum: Thank you. Abraham Shaw: Okay. John Chisum: So, um maybe now we can talk about a user interface and uh about the technical function of this device. So uh Pet Peter, can you talk say something Glenn Chaffin: Well John Chisum: about that? Glenn Chaffin: okay, yeah. Yeah, but the user user John Chisum: No. Abraham Shaw: B Glenn Chaffin: interface Abraham Shaw: you think uh Glenn Chaffin: is responsible. Abraham Shaw: I I'm User Interface John Chisum: Ah. Glenn Chaffin: Okay, so. John Chisum: Sorry, I'm Sorry. Abraham Shaw: Okay. John Chisum: Sorry. Abraham Shaw: Okay. If I could go there with this cable. Glenn Chaffin: You're scaring Charles Navarrete with L_C_D_ man. And speech recognition in remote unit, it will be very e expensive. Charles Navarrete: Yeah, it's true, but, you know, they're features that users want, so it's Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: And our production cost of twelve fifty Euros per per unit is fairly high I think, so Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: I think we can afford to to add these sort of features into our remote. Glenn Chaffin: At least we have couple of months t to work on it so so it will be cheaper Abraham Shaw: Sh okay. Glenn Chaffin: finally. Charles Navarrete: It is true. Abraham Shaw: Where's delete button? Okay. Oh I'm sorry. Abraham Shaw: Okay. Charles Navarrete: That's the wrong one, I think. John Chisum: Yeah, it's still Bob Morris. Abraham Shaw: Oh. Presentation three? Glenn Chaffin: Because you cancelled John Chisum: Yeah you should have Glenn Chaffin: it. John Chisum: put yes. Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: Oh. John Chisum: Click on yes. yeah. Glenn Chaffin: Yep. Abraham Shaw: Okay, so here is my presentation about technical function design. I will talk about different components and s of system and how they react together. Okay, uh, first is a remote control it's a device, as, for uh, different commands uh with this device. And the main idea we don't use any cable and we can rec react simpler with the device. Uh i it has different blocks, different blocks. Uh first is remote control have sh ha should have some electric circuits uh making interface with uh keyboard and uh r reading uh keyboard and reading the keyboard uh commands. And then inter then make uh these keyboard commands, uh in interpret these int uh keyboard commands. And then there should be uh an electronic circuit making uh electronic signals according to these commands and uh finally there is a transmitter which is a cord or a a diode making uh making uh waves to transmit through the air and uh uh this air this uh wave uh will be received by the by the other device like a television or whatever, to uh r to realise the command. Okay, uh about what I found about uh different uh these different blocks are uh, usually there are two different methods uh to for designing a remote control. They are based on infra-red uh waves or uh uh Glenn Chaffin: You still Abraham Shaw: radio Glenn Chaffin: want Abraham Shaw: waves. Glenn Chaffin: Charles Navarrete the presentation. Abraham Shaw: There are two different uh uh solutions I mean. This is uh this can be uh uh the the differences the th between different kind of waves, infra-red or radio waves. And uh also as uh I understood, and uh I think it was a part of uh Bob, uh uh presentation, people prefer to have uh to have uh the remote control with less button. So for the electronic part, working and interfacing, with button, we should we should try to t try to design a remote control having uh some some simpler buttons or some rolling buttons to just to just to search between different options, and showing o something on T_V_ and putting less lesser stuff on the uh on the remote control. And uh personal preferences, uh uh uh uh certainly a remote control with uh working with radio waves is uh preferred because uh you can pr you can take it in any direction and you don't need to tune it any way. And uh uh again, using bigger buttons and less number of buttons are also preferred, as I see. Okay. That was my presentation. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Charles Navarrete: I have a question. Abraham Shaw: Uh-huh. Charles Navarrete: Do you think radio waves um will interfere with other appliances in the home? Abraham Shaw: Uh, I don't think so, because uh we can make uh we ca we can make this wave in a specific frequency. So they can be in a range which is not inter interfering with the with other devices inside the home. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: So Glenn Chaffin: Yeah it should be John Chisum: can Glenn Chaffin: okay. John Chisum: we use any any frequency? We have the right to use any frequency? Abraham Shaw: Uh no but as I know, there is a range for uh for this uh f for for uh for this stuff, for designing this circuit. We can we can we can tune our uh transmitter to work in this range, and for this range we don't need to ask any permission. John Chisum: Okay. And what happen with uh radio waves when two neighbours have the same have our remote control, for example? And so do they have the same frequency, or? Abraham Shaw: Uh for this I'm not uh I I don't know the solution, but one solution can be something like putting uh p password or something inside the wave, so the only your John Chisum: Okay. Abraham Shaw: T_V_ can John Chisum: A Abraham Shaw: understand John Chisum: kind of identification, Abraham Shaw: it Yeah, identification Glenn Chaffin: Yeah f Abraham Shaw: code John Chisum: okay. Abraham Shaw: inside the Glenn Chaffin: uh John Chisum: So Glenn Chaffin: I know about this, since it's my it's exactly my field, so. It's uh kind of handshaking, uh, when starting to uh when you start to communicate with the your T_V_ John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: then then it's like an handshaking John Chisum: So Glenn Chaffin: protocol with your your remote. So so if two two devices are trying to go to communicate with the T_V_ set then the the the one which has the more energy in the wave is chosen. Well it can be a problem sometimes, but most of the time it works okay. John Chisum: Okay. Abraham Shaw: The password may simply uh or uh i identification code may simply solve this problem. A specific uh remote control has Glenn Chaffin: Yeah Abraham Shaw: a Glenn Chaffin: but Abraham Shaw: specific Glenn Chaffin: we we don't have to think Abraham Shaw: f Glenn Chaffin: uh about this because I think as a function designer that we will use the already made uh circuits which we probably bu buy. It's worth to buy. John Chisum: Hmm. Glenn Chaffin: And they have these problems solved so. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: So Abraham Shaw: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: we don't have to think about these. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. John Chisum: Okay. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: So, maybe you can talk about the function, and Glenn Chaffin: Yes. I have only a couple of things because I had I struggled a bit with the software that I'm supposed to use in this uh uh in this company. I was used to use Linux before, so. But I tried to tried to break through this too, I guess. Mm. John Chisum: Open. Glenn Chaffin: Ah. Okay. How to make it big? John Chisum: Slide Abraham Shaw: Five. John Chisum: show. Glenn Chaffin: Slide show. Okay, thanks. John Chisum: It should work, so you can. Glenn Chaffin: Okay. Oh so I will speak about working design. That's the first slide. Uh what uh I have to do? A look at what the other company Okay so uh presently I am looking what is possible to use, what circuits to use and stuff like that because uh I didn't work uh with these uh circuits so far so I have to look what what is a v a v available on the market for for the communication for the I_R_ circuits and so on, so I'm currently looking what is available on the web. And uh I wanted to ask you m maybe afterwards, after after our discussion, if we have some contacts in some companies, so, which can report on what is going on there, so, I would be John Chisum: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: glad if you can John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: tell Charles Navarrete about them. So, you know. Uh, okay findings, that's the point that I'm working on currently but uh so far I I was uh looking what what are the blue circuit, I mean radio wave radio frequency circuits Charles Navarrete: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: are available now, but the prices I read are high. So, I know that uh the user interface people and these speak about radio frequency waves because you can you can uh Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: you can make the T_V_ do what you want even John Chisum: Hmm. Glenn Chaffin: if you are in the bathroom or so on, but you know, when you are not close to the T_V_ you probably won't need to to change the program and so on and so I am I am voting for s to stick to the um infra-red control instead of R_W_ but we will discuss it later maybe. Uh. Components to use, I'm not exactly sure what I will use for the design of the circuit. It depends uh on whether we will use the L_C_D_ and mainly the speech recognition, because the speech rec Yeah? Charles Navarrete: Are we um are we planning to take an off the shelf an O_E_M_ component for the radio wave circuit, or are we planning to construct our own circuit Glenn Chaffin: No no Charles Navarrete: board? Glenn Chaffin: no no no. This we this we buy I think, because it's rather cheap nowadays and it's Charles Navarrete: Okay Glenn Chaffin: not worth Charles Navarrete: s Glenn Chaffin: to construct ourselves. Charles Navarrete: So we just buy a circuit board and Glenn Chaffin: Exactly. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: But I'm not sure about the circuit which is responsible for speech recognition. This I prefer that we should make ourselves. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: But it depends whether we take a decision to use it. Same thing. It's fairly expensive to use these circuits. So, speech recognition well, L_C_D_ it's okay because it's common nowadays to use L_C_D_, so I agree on using any kind of L_C_D_, less buttons good for Charles Navarrete as a as a designer of the circuit. John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: But the speech recognition we have to compare whether Abraham Shaw: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: the price and the John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: what does it offer, you know. John Chisum: So what do you think would Glenn Chaffin: Yeah, I'm John Chisum: be the price, it would be out of range? Or it would be maybe Glenn Chaffin: Oh. John Chisum: feasible? Glenn Chaffin: I was not thinking too much about the price. But if we use the L_C_D_ uh even the radio frequency communication with the T_V_ set and the backlight and uh related things like the photo diodes and stuff, it should be okay. If we decide to use the speech recognition, then we probably could struggle but we'll see afterwards. John Chisum: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: It depends of you if if the M_E_ or U_I_D_, I'm John Chisum: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: sorry about the names, I don't really know, uh want to have it like in metal or in plastic, these things, it it depends on you not Because the the the electronic device's price is not not so big in comparison to to the overall shape and stuff like that, so. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: We will discuss it afterwards. Oh, this is nothing. This is just my notes on what to use. preferably to use R_W_ circuit, but from the point of view uh of the design and price, I would stick to I_R_s. That's my opinion. Uh I mean if infra-red uh circuit not not the radio frequency. John Chisum: Why? Because it's simpler? Glenn Chaffin: Because because the the range where you can John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: use it is fair. John Chisum: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: It's okay I think. And the price is fairly cheap John Chisum: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: for this. John Chisum: It's Glenn Chaffin: Well, John Chisum: a a Glenn Chaffin: depends. John Chisum: price matter. Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: Jus just the price. John Chisum: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: Otherwise I don't care what I put there because it's the chip which I buy or which John Chisum: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: we buy. So I I I think Charles Navarrete: What Glenn Chaffin: it's Charles Navarrete: how much Glenn Chaffin: o Charles Navarrete: more expensive? Glenn Chaffin: y Charles Navarrete: Are we talking three Glenn Chaffin: o. Charles Navarrete: times more expensive? Or Glenn Chaffin: Well, Charles Navarrete: ten Glenn Chaffin: three Charles Navarrete: times Glenn Chaffin: to Charles Navarrete: more Glenn Chaffin: three Charles Navarrete: expensive? Or Glenn Chaffin: to five. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: N not ten times, but it Charles Navarrete: Yeah Glenn Chaffin: depends what Charles Navarrete: yeah. Glenn Chaffin: what we Charles Navarrete: That's still a lot. I think it's it's probably not John Chisum: Hmm. Charles Navarrete: worth spending the extra money, because John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: I mean all the other remote controls on the market have infra-red, so people don't expect anything other than infra-red. John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: So it's Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: not worth spending John Chisum: Well Charles Navarrete: the extra Glenn Chaffin: Th Charles Navarrete: money. Glenn Chaffin: they are used John Chisum: I, Glenn Chaffin: to use John Chisum: oh Glenn Chaffin: it when they can see the T_V_ so, Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: I John Chisum: On Glenn Chaffin: don't John Chisum: the other Glenn Chaffin: know. John Chisum: side, we want to have something new. You know, Charles Navarrete: Yeah. John Chisum: where we want to to have something new and So we I think we should still thinking about it. But Charles Navarrete: But I think, John Chisum: maybe. Charles Navarrete: based on my usability studies I th I feel that users are prioritise the look and the feel and John Chisum: Okay. Charles Navarrete: the trendiness above, you know, the difference between infra-red or radio waves. So I think we're better off spending money Glenn Chaffin: You the user interface, Charles Navarrete: in the usability Glenn Chaffin: and John Chisum: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: management Abraham Shaw: Mm. Charles Navarrete: phase. John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: man, uh Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: Uh okay, that's it for Charles Navarrete. John Chisum: Okay, thank you Peter. Glenn Chaffin: 'Kay. John Chisum: So um I have to inform you I receive an email from the management bon board today and they have new requirements for the for the remote control. Charles Navarrete: Mm. John Chisum: Um first um, they say that's uh about something about t teletext. Uh apparently it becomes from according to them it becomes out of date. Out-dated. And uh Because of the internet popularity and everybody has internet at home, and actually it's not useful to have teletext. Um. So I think we can avoid the teletext. Um the second thing is uh they suggest that that we should uh use the remote control only for T_V_, not for D_V_D_ and other devices, because it make it it makes it's too complex and uh because we have not much time for this project we should stay on T_V_ on the only specific T_V_ remote control. Glenn Chaffin: I agree. John Chisum: The third the third one is uh about the the the image of the company. So um uh we should we should keep uh The the product should be recognisable. Uh, uh It's That mean we should use the colour of our company and maybe put somewhere the s the slogan of the company, which is uh, we put fashion of in electronics. So, when people see the the remote control, they should say oh it's from Real Reaction and he s they should recognise the company. So, um So now we we should take the decision what we are going to what function we will have on this uh on this remote control. So, mm, are we going to use L_C_D_, speech recognition? Uh. Charles Navarrete: Well, should we start with just the core, the basic functions that we need. And then John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: we can move on Abraham Shaw: Mm. Charles Navarrete: to the Abraham Shaw: Yes. Charles Navarrete: more John Chisum: Maybe, Charles Navarrete: advanced features. John Chisum: maybe. Glenn Chaffin: Okay, so the available things are L_C_D_, the buttons and everything. Uh radio frequency depends. And, well the recognition it depends on John Chisum: Yeah Glenn Chaffin: you guys. You John Chisum: but Glenn Chaffin: should probably speak. John Chisum: first maybe what is what are the usual function of a standard remote control? I mean Glenn Chaffin: Okay. John Chisum: what do Charles Navarrete: Okay, well, John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: I mean the obvious one is changing channels. John Chisum: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: Yeah. John Chisum: I think we should stick on very useful functions, because Charles Navarrete: Yeah. John Chisum: we want less button. So, yeah. Charles Navarrete: Yeah, okay. John Chisum: So, turning channel, of course. Volume setting. Glenn Chaffin: Uh just one note to the chan channel changing. Do we will we use only two buttons, or or like numbered buttons? I mean those nine John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: plus one or two? Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. John Chisum: I think it would be a b Glenn Chaffin: Because it's many buttons and we were speaking about lowering the number. Abraham Shaw: Mm. John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: Yeah, I John Chisum: On the other side we have more and more channels, and if you want to pass through all the Abraham Shaw: Yeah. John Chisum: channels to get the channel you want, it's Glenn Chaffin: Okay so so we keep all these Abraham Shaw: Yeah John Chisum: Maybe Abraham Shaw: yeah, Glenn Chaffin: all Abraham Shaw: at John Chisum: maybe Abraham Shaw: least Glenn Chaffin: these buttons. John Chisum: we Abraham Shaw: nine, John Chisum: could Abraham Shaw: ten John Chisum: think of Abraham Shaw: button. John Chisum: something more betweens, like uh Glenn Chaffin: Like ten plus, five plus, one plus, one minus John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: or something. John Chisum: Maybe something Glenn Chaffin: Or using John Chisum: like Glenn Chaffin: the John Chisum: that. Glenn Chaffin: names and the keyboard I Charles Navarrete: Ah yeah. Glenn Chaffin: dunno. John Chisum: Uh. Abraham Shaw: Or John Chisum: Maybe Abraham Shaw: Or something. John Chisum: Oh I don't know. Oh. Maybe we could have key buttons, like uh discovery channe like documentary channel, and movies channel and Glenn Chaffin: You mean Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: like John Chisum: And Glenn Chaffin: hierarchical John Chisum: inside Glenn Chaffin: structure. John Chisum: this Abraham Shaw: Okay. John Chisum: this thing you can move, Abraham Shaw: Like categorising John Chisum: maybe switch. Abraham Shaw: channels. John Chisum: If you want to see a movie you click on the movie button so you have all the movie channels Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. John Chisum: and Glenn Chaffin: Okay, John Chisum: after Glenn Chaffin: so John Chisum: you've Glenn Chaffin: s John Chisum: you plus Glenn Chaffin: Oh John Chisum: plus Glenn Chaffin: sorry. John Chisum: plus. Abraham Shaw: Okay. John Chisum: I It just an idea. I don't know what you think about that but. Glenn Chaffin: So it requires the use of L_C_D_ probably, to to tell you Charles Navarrete: To John Chisum: Yeah, Charles Navarrete: have some feedback. John Chisum: probably, yeah, Glenn Chaffin: Okay, John Chisum: yeah. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: so I'll make a note on L_C_D_. Charles Navarrete: We could maybe also c um incorporate Petre's idea of the um slider for the volume, Abraham Shaw: Okay. Charles Navarrete: with the channel. John Chisum: Okay. Charles Navarrete: So we c you could quickly just Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: through many channels. Glenn Chaffin: Like roller for the Charles Navarrete: For Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: the channels, perhaps. Glenn Chaffin: Okay. John Chisum: Anything else? Charles Navarrete: So we've got channel and volume. Um. John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: So we are still s speaking about the common devices or we are inviting Charles Navarrete: I think Glenn Chaffin: the Charles Navarrete: so. Glenn Chaffin: new one? Charles Navarrete: I think basically John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: the core functions we want, and then more advanced ones. John Chisum: What about the settings of the T_V_? Because it's button we don't use very often, but it's we need it anyway. Abraham Shaw: So John Chisum: So Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: uh we don't have any uh we don't have uh we should just design the remote control and we sh we don't have any access to the to the T_V_ design or we can change some design. Because one solution for this um uh uh ch changing channels is to see a summary of all channels, some some preview of all channels and then you Glenn Chaffin: On Abraham Shaw: can Glenn Chaffin: the screen, Abraham Shaw: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: you mean? Abraham Shaw: Yeah Glenn Chaffin: Not Abraham Shaw: b Glenn Chaffin: on the control, Abraham Shaw: Not on Glenn Chaffin: but Abraham Shaw: the Glenn Chaffin: on Abraham Shaw: control, Glenn Chaffin: the screen. Abraham Shaw: on the screen, on the T_V_ screen. Glenn Chaffin: Well, this Charles Navarrete: I don't Glenn Chaffin: would Abraham Shaw: And Glenn Chaffin: avoid Abraham Shaw: then Glenn Chaffin: L_C_D_, then. Charles Navarrete: Oh, I don't but I don't think we're we're the ones. I mean this remote control we're developing is a generic control for John Chisum: Yeah, Charles Navarrete: all T_V_s, John Chisum: yeah. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. John Chisum: know if Glenn Chaffin: Oh. Charles Navarrete: I John Chisum: it's Charles Navarrete: think. John Chisum: possible to to watch something Glenn Chaffin: W John Chisum: on T_V_ Glenn Chaffin: I I think it it would be better to to stick to the remote control John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: and not to bother the T_V_ to John Chisum: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: to to print these things. Well it wi it will be still more expensive, but for the L_C_D_ and this stuff is no problem Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: in the price. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: So, what are we doing with the settings? Because settings if we want to do settings we need buttons for that and we want less buttons, so. Maybe with the L_C_D_ we can do something Abraham Shaw: Yeah. John Chisum: with less buttons, but Charles Navarrete: But then you don't want to make the L_C_D_ display too complicated John Chisum: Mm. Charles Navarrete: at the same time. I mean there's always Glenn Chaffin: Two T_V_s. Charles Navarrete: we can always have these l less often used functions hidden somewhere, under a cover John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: or John Chisum: Oh yeah. Charles Navarrete: at Glenn Chaffin: Like Charles Navarrete: the back of under John Chisum: Oh, Glenn Chaffin: ma Charles Navarrete: a slide John Chisum: the. Charles Navarrete: or some Glenn Chaffin: We we could have for example two buttons like simple mode and advanced mode. Or I dunno. Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: Or Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: like children and grandfather's mode, and Abraham Shaw: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: the, well the the user not the user, the man mana T_V_ manager mode. Charles Navarrete: Okay. Glenn Chaffin: Ah, Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Glenn Chaffin: I dunno. Charles Navarrete: So we have five minutes left. John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: Um. Glenn Chaffin: Uh. Charles Navarrete: So I think s the settings we th we are agreeing are agreed that they're required. John Chisum: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Charles Navarrete: It's just Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: how to a John Chisum: We should hide them somewhere. Glenn Chaffin: Hide Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: them, okay. John Chisum: In the menus of the L_C_D_ Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: or in the back of the remote control, or something like Charles Navarrete: Yeah. John Chisum: that. Charles Navarrete: Uh, okay, what else? Glenn Chaffin: Um. Charles Navarrete: I mean a power button's obviously Glenn Chaffin: Yes. Charles Navarrete: uh Glenn Chaffin: This Charles Navarrete: required. Glenn Chaffin: I was thinking. Do we need a power button at all? Should should shouldn't we do it like sleep mode after five minutes of not using it? Because generally John Chisum: It's it's a kind of setting, I think. It should Abraham Shaw: Mm. John Chisum: fit in those settings Abraham Shaw: Settings. John Chisum: functions. Because it's not a very current useful function. Charles Navarrete: Uh, well I think when they say power button they mean to turn the T_V_ on and off. John Chisum: No, Glenn Chaffin: Yes. John Chisum: I think it's after after five minutes Glenn Chaffin: Well John Chisum: or something Glenn Chaffin: I John Chisum: a timer Glenn Chaffin: I uh John Chisum: I I think, Charles Navarrete: But if you're John Chisum: no? Charles Navarrete: watching T_V_ for two hours, you don't want your T_V_ to turn off Glenn Chaffin: You don't Charles Navarrete: after Glenn Chaffin: need Charles Navarrete: five Glenn Chaffin: to Charles Navarrete: five Glenn Chaffin: every Charles Navarrete: minute Glenn Chaffin: five minutes to keep it alive. Uh probably. Okay, so we should keep this button. Charles Navarrete: I mean based Abraham Shaw: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: on our usability studies again, um pe um people said that the power button was v a very John Chisum: Oh okay, Charles Navarrete: relevant button. John Chisum: yeah. Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Charles Navarrete: Um, you know, it was nine out of ten Glenn Chaffin: Okay, so Charles Navarrete: re Glenn Chaffin: we Charles Navarrete: relevance. Glenn Chaffin: we could p what we could probably do is to keep also to keep uh keep the L_C_D_ and all the buttons and stuff, we could make it like a opening opening style that if you open it John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: you are you just turn on the T_V_ and if you close it, it will John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: turn off the T_V_. If if you like this, Charles Navarrete: Okay. B Okay. Glenn Chaffin: Because, well Charles Navarrete: I think we need Glenn Chaffin: it's Charles Navarrete: to concentrate Glenn Chaffin: maybe question Charles Navarrete: on the, Glenn Chaffin: for you Charles Navarrete: you know, the Glenn Chaffin: t Charles Navarrete: major Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. Charles Navarrete: usage of the th of the control, John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: which is you sit down, you turn on your T_V_, you change channels, you change the volume, you turn the T_V_ off. John Chisum: Yeah. Charles Navarrete: Um John Chisum: So s yeah. Charles Navarrete: and all the other f functionality is Abraham Shaw: Yeah, they Charles Navarrete: not Abraham Shaw: can Charles Navarrete: used very often. Abraham Shaw: yeah they can be hide somewhere by a cover or something John Chisum: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: like this. Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Abraham Shaw: Like covering John Chisum: On the Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. John Chisum: back, or Abraham Shaw: cu. Glenn Chaffin: I mean like the Abraham Shaw: Yeah, like mobile phone Glenn Chaffin: Yeah but Abraham Shaw: covering. Glenn Chaffin: since we have the L_C_D_, we didn't need too much button too many buttons. Um, okay, just um the decision of the power button. Should we make it a button, or some some something which would be John Chisum: For what? Glenn Chaffin: Uh Charles Navarrete: I think a button. Abraham Shaw: A button Glenn Chaffin: power button. Abraham Shaw: is better. Charles Navarrete: I think it should John Chisum: Ah Charles Navarrete: be a Glenn Chaffin: If Charles Navarrete: bu Glenn Chaffin: it John Chisum: oh Abraham Shaw: Yeah. John Chisum: yeah, Glenn Chaffin: if John Chisum: yeah. Glenn Chaffin: it's a button or John Chisum: Yeah Charles Navarrete: Its own John Chisum: a Glenn Chaffin: Okay. John Chisum: button, Charles Navarrete: button John Chisum: yeah I guess Charles Navarrete: on the John Chisum: so. Charles Navarrete: front. Abraham Shaw: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: Okay, one nice big button. Old fashioned button, to satisfy the grandmothers. Hmm. Charles Navarrete: Okay. John Chisum: So, Glenn Chaffin: Mm. Charles Navarrete: S John Chisum: any other suggestions or functions? Charles Navarrete: What about things like the clock and um timers? Glenn Chaffin: Do we still have the time? I I just wonder. John Chisum: Yeah, we have still one or two minutes Glenn Chaffin: Okay. John Chisum: to talk, yeah. Glenn Chaffin: Oh. Well what w Abraham Shaw: Clock Glenn Chaffin: what was the question? Abraham Shaw: or Charles Navarrete: Uh um, you know, some func some features on the control to display a time, or John Chisum: Usually Charles Navarrete: t John Chisum: it's Charles Navarrete: to John Chisum: already Charles Navarrete: display John Chisum: on T_V_ or something like Abraham Shaw: Yes. John Chisum: that. Glenn Chaffin: Yeah but since we want to control all the televisions, and John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: and it would probably be worth to to set the timing on the remote, no? Because Abraham Shaw: Mm. Glenn Chaffin: if if the T_V_ turns John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: on itself, it John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: well you John Chisum: If Glenn Chaffin: know, John Chisum: we if Glenn Chaffin: if John Chisum: we Glenn Chaffin: the time John Chisum: add Glenn Chaffin: The John Chisum: the time, Glenn Chaffin: timer should be there. John Chisum: we have to have maybe a bigger display or something like that, and is it very useful? I mean, are users wants to have the time on the on the remote? Abraham Shaw: Mm. John Chisum: This is the question. Charles Navarrete: Probably not. John Chisum: Is it useful? Abraham Shaw: Yes. Charles Navarrete: It's a questi yeah, it's a trade-off. John Chisum: W In my opinion we should have only useful thing and Because Charles Navarrete: 'Kay. John Chisum: apparently they want The simpler Glenn Chaffin: Ah, John Chisum: it's is Glenn Chaffin: yeah. John Chisum: better. Charles Navarrete: Okay simple. Glenn Chaffin: Did you did you ever use the like the timing of turning on the T_V_, well And based on Charles Navarrete: Very, Glenn Chaffin: your Charles Navarrete: yeah okay, very occasionally. But I do use the I do use the display of the time quite often, Abraham Shaw: Mm. Charles Navarrete: but Glenn Chaffin: Yeah but it can be on the display in in a corner all Charles Navarrete: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: the time on the remote. Charles Navarrete: Yeah that's okay, that's true. Okay, so no John Chisum: No time Charles Navarrete: time John Chisum: on. Charles Navarrete: button. Abraham Shaw: And Charles Navarrete: Okay. Abraham Shaw: uh do we need to include anything about the speech recognition and the speech commands, Glenn Chaffin: Yes Abraham Shaw: or? John Chisum: I think Glenn Chaffin: yes. Abraham Shaw: I I thin I think it will not take lots of place, we just need a microphone and the software, so people may be attracted to buy this stuff and it's not very difficult to uh put a software inside the the electronic device and put a microphone. It doesn't take that much place and also that much It doesn't cost that much. John Chisum: Yeah. Glenn Chaffin: Yeah but we we should be careful about the battery life, then. If we use John Chisum: So Glenn Chaffin: the John Chisum: maybe Glenn Chaffin: speech John Chisum: we think Glenn Chaffin: recognition. John Chisum: we can think more about that, and discuss that maybe last time Abraham Shaw: Mm-hmm. John Chisum: next time. Glenn Chaffin: Yeah. John Chisum: And uh yeah, now the meeting room is busy. Somebody booked the meeting room just for at one P_M_, and so we should leave. Uh. So, um. So now we are going for for a small lunch. It's uh funded by the company. And uh after we have uh thirteen minutes to to do indevel individual works. And uh I will do the minutes. And uh you are going to work on your individual works. And uh you will receive as usual your specific instruction and so on. Charles Navarrete: Okay, John Chisum: Thank you everybody. Charles Navarrete: cool. Okay Abraham Shaw: Thanks. Charles Navarrete: Thank you.	John Chisum opened the meeting and then Charles Navarrete discussed user requirements. Charles Navarrete also found that younger users want an LCD display and a remote capable of speech recognition. The interface specialist discussed the interior workings of a remote and stated a preference for using radio waves over infra-red technology. Glenn Chaffin discussed particular components that a remote could include. John Chisum briefed the team on some new requirements and initiated a discussion in which the team discussed and decided on various features to include in the remote they will produce.	3	amisum	train
Ernest Huerta: Oops. Henry Stevens: So, hello everyone. We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a f for the beginning of new project um uh remote control for the design for a new remote control. I'm Henry Stevens Christa Pavlov and okay let's begin. So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan, some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design, it's conceptual design, and desail detailed design. and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um, so let's try the whiteboard. Matthew Soto: Wow. Henry Stevens: Um so any of you who want to go. Ernest Huerta: Yeah, for favourite animals. It's not favourite one but the I can draw. And it's gonna be you'll try to guess. Matthew Soto: Wow. Henry Stevens: Wow. Matthew Soto: Complex. Huh? A cat. Darrell Lawrence: No. Ernest Huerta: No. Matthew Soto: No. Darn. Uh. Henry Stevens: A rabbit. Ernest Huerta: Yes, that's a rabbit. Matthew Soto: A Ernest Huerta: That's Matthew Soto: what? Ernest Huerta: my favourite Henry Stevens: A Ernest Huerta: one. Henry Stevens: rabbit. Matthew Soto: A r Darrell Lawrence: Rabbit. Matthew Soto: a rabbit, oh oh yeah, where is the carrot? Okay Ernest Huerta: That's Matthew Soto: mm-hmm. Ernest Huerta: it. Henry Stevens: You want to go? Matthew Soto: I am not very good at Ernest Huerta: Hmm. Matthew Soto: uh this kind of stuff. My favourite animal is Ernest Huerta: Wow. Darrell Lawrence: You wa Henry Stevens: A human Matthew Soto: Guess. Henry Stevens: ah. Matthew Soto: A human, yay. It's a very complex animal Ernest Huerta: No. Matthew Soto: and um yeah. Characteristics of this this animal is dangerous. Henry Stevens: Mm I think Darrell Lawrence: Is Henry Stevens: you're Darrell Lawrence: the white Henry Stevens: supposed to, yeah. Darrell Lawrence: okay. Henry Stevens: Hmm. Darrell Lawrence: I guess you can. Ernest Huerta: Wow. That's cobra. Matthew Soto: of uh snake? Cobra? Exactly. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah uh not really. Small cobra. Ernest Huerta: No, it just small cobra, yeah. Matthew Soto: Uh-huh. Henry Stevens: Is that Ernest Huerta: It's Henry Stevens: a worm? Ernest Huerta: co c Henry Stevens: Or Ernest Huerta: quite recognisable. Matthew Soto: What about you Henry Stevens: Uh yeah Christa Pavlov Matthew Soto: uh Christa? Darrell Lawrence: Chris. Ernest Huerta: Christa Christa. Henry Stevens: Mm. Matthew Soto: A fish. Darrell Lawrence: Mm. Ernest Huerta: Hmm. Henry Stevens: Smiling fish. Darrell Lawrence: Smile fish. Matthew Soto: A smiling fish. Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Ernest Huerta: Okay. Matthew Soto: So, w whiteboard is working? Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Henry Stevens: Yeah. Matthew Soto: Good. Next. Henry Stevens: Next. Let's talk about money. Matthew Soto: Yeah, well. Ernest Huerta: According to the drawings. Matthew Soto: Not Matthew Soto. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, Ernest Huerta: Okay. Darrell Lawrence: you're Matthew Soto: So. Henry Stevens: So. Matthew Soto: Twenty five Euro for a Henry Stevens: Yeah, Matthew Soto: remote control. Henry Stevens: mm that's the price Darrell Lawrence: Hmm. Henry Stevens: we want to that's Matthew Soto: Okay. Henry Stevens: the aim for the price for the remote control. We aim to do this profit. Matthew Soto: 'tis big number. Ernest Huerta: On the Henry Stevens: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: international market. Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, we're to sell two million then. Ernest Huerta: Wow. Matthew Soto: Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum. 'Kay. So any of you have experience in remote controls? Matthew Soto: Uh Darrell Lawrence: Mm Matthew Soto: yes, Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Matthew Soto: we have plenty at home. In fact, my daughter likes l remote Henry Stevens: That Ernest Huerta: Mm. Matthew Soto: controls. Ernest Huerta: To eat? Matthew Soto: To eat? Yeah, mainly, and to break. Henry Stevens: So that could be a great um application. Remote controls children proof. Matthew Soto: Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm Matthew Soto: Yeah. Henry Stevens: mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: Ye Ernest Huerta: Children Matthew Soto: ye Ernest Huerta: proof. Matthew Soto: yeah. Ernest Huerta: Hmm. Matthew Soto: So she likes uh buttons Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, Henry Stevens: Okay. Darrell Lawrence: pret Matthew Soto: which make click, so it has to click. Henry Stevens: So they have to be waterproof Matthew Soto: It has Henry Stevens: maybe? Matthew Soto: to be uh Henry Stevens: 'Cause Matthew Soto: wha Henry Stevens: they Matthew Soto: baby Henry Stevens: eat Matthew Soto: proof Henry Stevens: she ate Matthew Soto: yeah Henry Stevens: it. Matthew Soto: but mainly it has to be very robust because Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: even if Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: she's not very tall she's uh high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh Darrell Lawrence: Ah. Matthew Soto: So it has to be very robust. Ernest Huerta: Okay, unbreakable. Matthew Soto: Unbreakable, Ernest Huerta: Uh-huh. Matthew Soto: yeah. Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: And uh it has to be nice looking, Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: colourful, Henry Stevens: Colourful, Matthew Soto: maybe Ernest Huerta: Colourful? Henry Stevens: yeah mm. Ernest Huerta: That's not Matthew Soto: colourful, Ernest Huerta: practical. Matthew Soto: because Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: uh nobody has colourful Henry Stevens: No, that's Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, it's Henry Stevens: a Matthew Soto: remote Henry Stevens: good Darrell Lawrence: always Matthew Soto: control, Henry Stevens: idea. Matthew Soto: they're Darrell Lawrence: black Matthew Soto: always black, Darrell Lawrence: or Matthew Soto: yeah, Henry Stevens: Mm Ernest Huerta: No. Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Henry Stevens: mm-mm. Matthew Soto: but this one could be I dunno, purple Ernest Huerta: But how Henry Stevens: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: gonna Matthew Soto: or b Ernest Huerta: okay, just uh but it's uh monochrome it's Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: n it's not like Matthew Soto: Yeah, yeah. Henry Stevens: No, Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Henry Stevens: because you think, Matthew Soto: One colour. Henry Stevens: why Ernest Huerta: Otherwise Henry Stevens: not. Ernest Huerta: you will never find Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: it. Matthew Soto: Yeah, Darrell Lawrence: Yeah Matthew Soto: yeah. Darrell Lawrence: even we can change colours, no? Like the uh Matthew Soto: Oh like the phones, Darrell Lawrence: like the phones Matthew Soto: yeah, Darrell Lawrence: and these Matthew Soto: it Darrell Lawrence: things Ernest Huerta: Cool. Matthew Soto: could change Darrell Lawrence: we c Matthew Soto: colours, Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: yeah. Darrell Lawrence: yeah. At least for children like Ernest Huerta: Ch Darrell Lawrence: one colour and. Matthew Soto: Yeah. Good. Henry Stevens: Good idea. Darrell Lawrence: And it should be really small and. Henry Stevens: Small also? Don't Darrell Lawrence: Huh Henry Stevens: you think Darrell Lawrence: not so big like Henry Stevens: No Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Henry Stevens: uh, not too much buttons or Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, not Henry Stevens: mm. Darrell Lawrence: too much buttons and Matthew Soto: Should it be, y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television, then it's the remote control for the Darrell Lawrence: Uh. Matthew Soto: the sound system, or Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: for your refrigerator whatever Henry Stevens: Yeah, Matthew Soto: I dunno Henry Stevens: that's Matthew Soto: if it's Or if we should have a targeted re remote control. Henry Stevens: Okay. So, Matthew Soto: So Henry Stevens: I Matthew Soto: colour, Henry Stevens: think Matthew Soto: robustness, Henry Stevens: there's Matthew Soto: easy to use, size, yeah, size matters, Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: yeah. Darrell Lawrence: Colour, size, Henry Stevens: So Darrell Lawrence: sh Henry Stevens: you you think it's better if small than bigger. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, Matthew Soto: Mm. Darrell Lawrence: maybe at least n not bigger than this I Ernest Huerta: Yeah, Darrell Lawrence: guess. Ernest Huerta: but without any extremes like n not of this size, Henry Stevens: No, Ernest Huerta: not Darrell Lawrence: Yeah Henry Stevens: not Ernest Huerta: too Henry Stevens: too Ernest Huerta: large. Darrell Lawrence: yeah, Henry Stevens: small, Ernest Huerta: Okay. Henry Stevens: yeah. Matthew Soto: Yeah. Darrell Lawrence: at least it should hold in your hand n properly, like. Henry Stevens: Hmm. Ernest Huerta: Yeah, like a palm sized. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: Mm. Ernest Huerta: Just to hold it. Henry Stevens: Okay. Matthew Soto: But uh what would be different from this, from the others? I dunno if Darrell Lawrence: Uh maybe we can change the colours that at least the frame. Matthew Soto: Yeah, at Darrell Lawrence: Mm. Matthew Soto: least the colour Darrell Lawrence: S Matthew Soto: would Darrell Lawrence: so Matthew Soto: be different. Darrell Lawrence: then it depends you are to Henry Stevens: Mm. Darrell Lawrence: Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame. Matthew Soto: I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're they never find a good button in the right Darrell Lawrence: Yeah, Matthew Soto: place. Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Matthew Soto: For some reason they they Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: they click the off button when they want to use the Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow, Henry Stevens: Mm. Matthew Soto: I Henry Stevens: So, Matthew Soto: dunno. Henry Stevens: some kind of idea uh with um um cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what Ernest Huerta: No, no Henry Stevens: no. Ernest Huerta: screens, it's too complex. Henry Stevens: Okay. Darrell Lawrence: Mm. Matthew Soto: Too expensive for twelve Euro? Darrell Lawrence: Too expensive, Ernest Huerta: And n Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Ernest Huerta: maybe Henry Stevens: And Ernest Huerta: not Henry Stevens: too expensive. Ernest Huerta: too expensive, well it's not my problem, but well Matthew Soto: Ah. Ernest Huerta: okay. But no screens on remote controls. Matthew Soto: Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm. Matthew Soto: I thought it could be only a screen which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user. So ma Ernest Huerta: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: I prefer to have the off button at the top right, Darrell Lawrence: Ye yeah. Matthew Soto: so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch Darrell Lawrence: Hmm. Matthew Soto: screen remote control, if you if you like. Darrell Lawrence: I mean it Matthew Soto: I don't Darrell Lawrence: it's Matthew Soto: know if Darrell Lawrence: like Matthew Soto: it makes sense, but Henry Stevens: Mm-mm. Darrell Lawrence: it's like two types no? people are right handed or left handed so y because Matthew Soto: Yeah, Darrell Lawrence: I am left Matthew Soto: for Darrell Lawrence: handed Matthew Soto: instance, Darrell Lawrence: I use like Matthew Soto: mm. Darrell Lawrence: this, say if you're right handed you use Ernest Huerta: Mm-hmm, Darrell Lawrence: like this or Ernest Huerta: mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: Mm. Darrell Lawrence: so Henry Stevens: Mm Darrell Lawrence: tha Henry Stevens: mm mm. Darrell Lawrence: your switch on and off should be Henry Stevens: So adaptable Darrell Lawrence: on yeah. Henry Stevens: yeah Ernest Huerta: Adaptable. Matthew Soto: Maybe, Henry Stevens: something Matthew Soto: if if Ernest Huerta: Alright, Darrell Lawrence: Mm Matthew Soto: it's Henry Stevens: yeah. Matthew Soto: possible, Ernest Huerta: good, Matthew Soto: yeah. Ernest Huerta: so Darrell Lawrence: huh. Ernest Huerta: how many actions do we need to implement in it? Darrell Lawrence: Maybe Ernest Huerta: On Darrell Lawrence: I think Ernest Huerta: off? Darrell Lawrence: even we can keep two switches and then Matthew Soto: Yeah. Darrell Lawrence: we can uh only make one working. We can adapt only one switch, suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations. Ernest Huerta: I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a Darrell Lawrence: Two. Matthew Soto: Three buttons you mean? Ernest Huerta: like three Henry Stevens: Three Ernest Huerta: mental Henry Stevens: option. Ernest Huerta: states, Matthew Soto: Ah. Ernest Huerta: yeah you know what I mean, we can just make it uh Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Yeah. Henry Stevens: Um. Ernest Huerta: controlled by a brain, huh? Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: Mm-hmm, yeah, Henry Stevens: Maybe Matthew Soto: sure. Henry Stevens: if it's more, if there is a software inside that ask you three Ernest Huerta: Mm-hmm. Henry Stevens: Hmm. If it if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button, three mm possibilities, Ernest Huerta: Sh Matthew Soto: Yeah, more than Ernest Huerta: sure, Matthew Soto: three Henry Stevens: ye Matthew Soto: actions Ernest Huerta: sure. Darrell Lawrence: Mm Matthew Soto: that Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Matthew Soto: you may Henry Stevens: yeah. Matthew Soto: want to do at a given time. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: But for standard actions you usually what do you do, you change channels, you adjust volume, and nothing else. Matthew Soto: Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have you can just go to the next one or go to Darrell Lawrence: Mm. Matthew Soto: channel twenty five. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Henry Stevens: Mm. Matthew Soto: And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty Ernest Huerta: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: five. Ernest Huerta: You do this? Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: Uh no. Ernest Huerta: I usually just change channels. Matthew Soto: Because I'm only using three or four channels but Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put Henry Stevens: Yeah. Darrell Lawrence: yeah, Henry Stevens: I Darrell Lawrence: you can only Henry Stevens: change Darrell Lawrence: have one Henry Stevens: channel Darrell Lawrence: bit. Henry Stevens: like this, m Darrell Lawrence: Dash. Henry Stevens: uh I want to go to twenty five, and then to Matthew Soto: And Henry Stevens: ten, Matthew Soto: then back Henry Stevens: uh-huh Matthew Soto: to the Henry Stevens: mm Matthew Soto: one Henry Stevens: yeah. Matthew Soto: I was before, Henry Stevens: Also Matthew Soto: so there's Henry Stevens: we can be Ernest Huerta: Uh-huh. Matthew Soto: whichever Darrell Lawrence: Yeah Henry Stevens: here Darrell Lawrence: you Matthew Soto: it Darrell Lawrence: can Matthew Soto: was. Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Henry Stevens: yeah, that would Ernest Huerta: Go Henry Stevens: be Ernest Huerta: back Henry Stevens: cool. Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: button Matthew Soto: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: is Matthew Soto: Uh Ernest Huerta: good. Matthew Soto: uh we had that Ernest Huerta: I once Matthew Soto: in Ernest Huerta: had Darrell Lawrence: Yeah Matthew Soto: in Darrell Lawrence: yeah, the Ernest Huerta: it. Darrell Lawrence: previous Matthew Soto: other countries. Darrell Lawrence: button is. Henry Stevens: Mm Matthew Soto: Yeah Henry Stevens: yeah. Ernest Huerta: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: e even the history Darrell Lawrence: Uh, okay. Matthew Soto: so you could like uh undo Ernest Huerta: History. Darrell Lawrence: Oh uh. Matthew Soto: previous of the previous. Then you can watch Darrell Lawrence: Uh. Matthew Soto: what your ah you could also record your Darrell Lawrence: Yeah. Matthew Soto: record your sequence of actions, that becomes more complex, but you could look at what uh the other people have used Darrell Lawrence: Yeah yeah, Matthew Soto: there Darrell Lawrence: what the Matthew Soto: or Henry Stevens: Mm-mm. Darrell Lawrence: which channels Matthew Soto: remote controls. Darrell Lawrence: the viewer Matthew Soto: Yeah maybe Henry Stevens: Okay. Matthew Soto: it's a Henry Stevens: So I think we have full Matthew Soto: Okay. Henry Stevens: of idea. Um we're going to meet again in thirty minutes and uh I want you to mm work on these ideas and try to make a uh the ones, make um to decide what what are the ones important and what are the one that we don't want. And um m maybe more in the technical parts what uh do we want to do. Um. So um your personal coach will send you some instruction for for this thirty minutes. Matthew Soto: So what does M_E_ means? M_E_ the user requirements? Or that's uh that's for us? Ernest Huerta: Market Expert. Darrell Lawrence: Marketing Henry Stevens: Mm. Matthew Soto: Uh that's Matthew Soto. Darrell Lawrence: yeah. Matthew Soto: Oh, of course yeah, the user requirement specifications, uh-huh, Henry Stevens: Mm-hmm. Matthew Soto: yeah. Okay. Henry Stevens: Mm Matthew Soto: I'll Henry Stevens: okay. Matthew Soto: think of that. Henry Stevens: So. Matthew Soto: So? Henry Stevens: I think that's all. Matthew Soto: Meeting's over? Great. Henry Stevens: Yeah. Ernest Huerta: Okay. Darrell Lawrence: Thank you. Matthew Soto: Thank you. Ernest Huerta: Thank Henry Stevens: See Ernest Huerta: you everybody. Henry Stevens: you in thirty minutes.	Henry Stevens opened the meeting and introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which each team member drew his favorite animal and discussed why he liked the particular animal. After the drawing exercise, Henry Stevens discussed selling prices and production costs for the remote the team will design. Henry Stevens also indicated that the remote will be sold internationally and that two million remotes are expected to be sold. The team then discussed their experiences using remotes in the past and what features to consider implementing in the remote they will produce. The team members discussed child proof capabilities, color options, how to adapt a remote for left-handed users, a "go back" function, the size of a remote, buttons, and LCD screens. Henry Stevens closed the meeting and gave the team members their assignments and then one of the team members briefly went over his role on the team.	3	amisum	train
Noel Remo: Okay, so now we are on the conceptual design meeting. Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Noel Remo: Uh y getting close to the last is the penultim meeting. Kevin Knapp: How was lunch? Noel Remo: Mm great. Michael Wright: Thanks Don't be sarcastic Mark. Noel Remo: So um I will again do the secretary part uh we will have three presentation first um uh the Michael Wright: Uh Noel Remo: industrial Michael Wright: Rama. Noel Remo: design, Roger Rogers: Ramaro. Noel Remo: first Rama then Mark and then Sammy. Um um we have to take a decision on the control remote control concepts and we have forty minutes. Kevin Knapp: Mm. Noel Remo: So what we want to the decision we want to take this meeting on the um first on the component concept, so what kind of energy we use uh what kind of chip on print and one ki kind of case. And also on user interface concept uh what kind of interface we use and if there is some supplements. And at the end um Sammy will give um a trend watching on what he's he's been doing. It's So, let's go. First with Rama. Noel Remo: Participant two. Roger Rogers: Yeah, participant two. Component. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: Yep. So we're to mainly design f mainly need to know which components we'll use for energy, and the material and interface. For energy there are maybe two or three possibilities. First one, we can use simple battery, or we can use traditional solar cells or mm and the material we can have plastic, rubber which is good for this R_S_A_ Michael Wright: Ah. Roger Rogers: and then uh titanium, which can be which have very good look an and then interface we're to use push buttons or liquid crystal d L_C_D_ display. And we can use some, moving kind of thing. So, as we discussed before, we need to we would like to have some speech recognition s chip in our remote control. So this can be simple kind of programmable chip and which can use microphone sensors. And we also want to look at our remote control, so. Still we are looking for possible uh technical uh specifications and how w easy we can do and within our pri range, like we're to in our twelve Euros or around that. So we are looking for simple devices or simple technology to do the location of remote control in a room Noel Remo: Mm-hmm, Roger Rogers: or Noel Remo: okay. Roger Rogers: in a house. So uh we discussed an Excuse Michael Wright. So we would like to propose battery instead of solar cells and it would be problematic uh to have Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: enough energy with the solar cells and so we would like to just use simple battery. And also we want to go for titanium design instead of rubber or and well the problem is with this design we found that we can't use double-curved shapes. Michael Wright: What is a double-curved shape? Roger Rogers: Like you can have two curves. Michael Wright: Uh-huh. Kevin Knapp: Why? Roger Rogers: Uh it's I think in manufacturing I guess it's problematic. So, we want to go for simple push buttons because it need a simple chip and it's really lesser uh re really less expensive compared to L_C_D_ which are uh which needs advanced chip technology and it's more expensive, since we Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: want to put some other features such as speech recognition we want to reduce uh Michael Wright: The cost. Noel Remo: Um I want Roger Rogers: cost. Noel Remo: to know why it b uh just uh sorry but for the point before uh Roger Rogers: Uh Noel Remo: why not the rubber, if Roger Rogers: Uh Noel Remo: it is something that it seems to be Roger Rogers: And also Noel Remo: light. Roger Rogers: like in if you put a it's be difficult to do all the moulding of buttons and these things Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: and Noel Remo: You m titanium it's more uh Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: W we can use something like you know the whole body's titanium but there are some rubber or I dunno some rubber parts like Michael Wright: Mm like Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: this? Noel Remo: Yes Kevin Knapp: to make it Noel Remo: so Kevin Knapp: feel better Noel Remo: mm Kevin Knapp: and to you know Roger Rogers: Like in cell phones recently Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: these Noel Remo: Uh-huh. Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Roger Rogers: you can Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Roger Rogers: with the rubber in four directions Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: and yeah. But full assembly We'll use mainly for titanium Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: rubber is expensive Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: and also it's bit difficult to do all the shapes Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: uh. And this push Noel Remo: Uh Roger Rogers: buttons Noel Remo: yeah Roger Rogers: we Noel Remo: so Roger Rogers: we would like to use push buttons instead of L_C_D_s and so we want to mo I mean we're we want to put speech recognition so we want to reduce price on this technology and so that we can have Noel Remo: Okay, Roger Rogers: enough space Noel Remo: s so Roger Rogers: or enough money Noel Remo: simple Roger Rogers: for Noel Remo: button and uh Roger Rogers: S Noel Remo: speech Roger Rogers: S Michael Wright: Speech Noel Remo: recognition for the more complicated. Roger Rogers: Y Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: yeah we have simple buttons and speech recognition technology, Noel Remo: Okay. Kevin Knapp: Okay, Roger Rogers: so Kevin Knapp: and still we have mm can we still include the L_ L_S_D_ display? Michael Wright: L_C_D_. Kevin Knapp: L_C_D_ yeah L_C_D_. Roger Rogers: Uh l Michael Wright: Seems not, it's either Roger Rogers: So Michael Wright: L_C_D_ Roger Rogers: uh Michael Wright: or push-button. Roger Rogers: it's Kevin Knapp: No, Roger Rogers: like Kevin Knapp: it's Roger Rogers: a Kevin Knapp: not gonna be a t no touchable but still like a source of information or source for menus. Michael Wright: Ah. Roger Rogers: Yeah maybe maybe we can see depending on how we'll come up with our full design then if we have enough money or like for Kevin Knapp: Okay, Roger Rogers: and Kevin Knapp: so Roger Rogers: because Kevin Knapp: try Roger Rogers: the Kevin Knapp: it, Roger Rogers: speech Kevin Knapp: let's t Roger Rogers: recognition technology will take at least five Euros or or something so Michael Wright: The Roger Rogers: we want to reduce Michael Wright: L_C_D_ Roger Rogers: the Michael Wright: would Roger Rogers: cost on display or this Michael Wright: The display Roger Rogers: inter Michael Wright: would only be display and not uh Kevin Knapp: Yeah, Michael Wright: touch sensitive Kevin Knapp: yeah, Michael Wright: you mean. Kevin Knapp: it's Michael Wright: Just Kevin Knapp: it's Michael Wright: uh Kevin Knapp: not Michael Wright: for Kevin Knapp: gonna Michael Wright: output, Kevin Knapp: be a touch pad, uh just Michael Wright: yeah. Kevin Knapp: a display for Michael Wright: Yeah. Roger Rogers: Ok Kevin Knapp: giving you information. Roger Rogers: Yeah, that Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: can we we can consider, because like it won't take Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: much money I guess, because Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: Okay, yep. Noel Remo: Mm. Roger Rogers: You have any further questions or? Michael Wright: I guess no um. So the batteries uh are Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: going to be very light. Roger Rogers: Yeah, we're to go for li and now I think we have many options in the market so we can Michael Wright: Okay Roger Rogers: go for small Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: nickel or Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: alkaline batteries for really light batteries and with uh good price. Michael Wright: So this device on n that can be used for speech recognition could also be used for just uh the finding it basically, instead of clapping why not Roger Rogers: Yeah, that's Michael Wright: just be Roger Rogers: then the Michael Wright: ask. Roger Rogers: the one thing we want to know is like because remote control is used for like in the household so it it it will be it m maybe at least five, six people want to use it so Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: so how to uh uh how to define our re speech recognition whether we want to do s speaker independent or speaker dependent. If we're going for more speaker independent then it would be like again cumbersome and we need really m more technology and Noel Remo: Okay, for Roger Rogers: so Noel Remo: the location. Roger Rogers: Yeah, if Noel Remo: Hmm. Roger Rogers: if everybody in the house n to locate then we're to go for some speaker independent technology or Michael Wright: Okay. Roger Rogers: something. Noel Remo: Okay. So let's now go to the you don't have more Michael Wright: No, Noel Remo: question? Michael Wright: it's okay. Kevin Knapp: No more Noel Remo: Um Kevin Knapp: questions. Roger Rogers: Yep. Thank Noel Remo: mm Roger Rogers: you. Michael Wright: Puts less of constraint Noel Remo: thank you Michael Wright: on Noel Remo: mm. Michael Wright: what we can do but Kevin Knapp: Mm yeah, Noel Remo: Yeah. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: yeah. Michael Wright: it's always like that. We have dreams and the in the end we find out that it's not feasible. Noel Remo: Yeah, Roger Rogers: Oh. Noel Remo: but Michael Wright: Anyway. Roger Rogers: We Noel Remo: mm. Roger Rogers: have uh some limitations. Michael Wright: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: But still uh L_S_D_'s already Michael Wright: L_C_D_. Kevin Knapp: quite nice, Michael Wright: L_S_D_ Kevin Knapp: L_C_ Michael Wright: is something else, and it's quite nice Kevin Knapp: I'm Michael Wright: as Kevin Knapp: an Michael Wright: well. Kevin Knapp: artist, sorry. Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: So, Kevin Knapp: So uh, that's Noel Remo: Um Michael Wright: go Kevin Knapp: not Michael Wright: on uh Kevin Knapp: I hope Michael Wright: artist. Kevin Knapp: that's not too much. Noel Remo: yeah. Now Kevin Knapp: Okay. Noel Remo: let's talk about uh interface. Kevin Knapp: Uh participant number three. Noel Remo: Three. Roger Rogers: Three. Kevin Knapp: Uh Noel Remo: Which one? Michael Wright: Hmm. Kevin Knapp: mm mm uh have a look at this no it's yeah. Noel Remo: Okay. Kevin Knapp: Uh so the concept of the interface. Generally I developed quite a broad concept not only for the interface, but for possible instruction or user's manual and uh all the complex things that come together with your T_V_ and remote controls. So let's start with this. We got our perfect remote control with a lot of buttons and uh we got explanation for every button and you can use your time and uh it will take i some days to learn all this buttons and um the L_C_D_ is going to be somewhere here and uh go back button, I don't know really where it is, maybe one of this buttons, and um power on and off mm I Noel Remo: Mm. Kevin Knapp: I don't remember so uh it it it should be maybe this button is power on and off? Or no? I can see nothing. So that's our concept. It's called the millennium remote control. Michael Wright: Let's change millenniums. Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Roger Rogers: So maybe you can use in the end Michael Wright: doesn't Roger Rogers: and Michael Wright: make sense. This is very Kevin Knapp: Really? I Michael Wright: ugly. Kevin Knapp: thought you like it. Michael Wright: Oh no, Kevin Knapp: Ah okay just press Michael Wright: too much Kevin Knapp: the button, Michael Wright: concept. Kevin Knapp: please uh. Michael Wright: Ah. Noel Remo: No. Roger Rogers: Uh Kevin Knapp: Yeah, we will not use this. We will not use this. But instead of this I will devise Michael Wright: Ah, Kevin Knapp: That's Michael Wright: back Kevin Knapp: our Michael Wright: today. Kevin Knapp: concept. And it's got just few buttons, quite low looking, and all this stuff we already we already discussed. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. 'Kay. Kevin Knapp: And uh what will people say? They'll say it's perfect. Or what will say? Uh they will say it's splendid. And uh e everyone will say I'll buy it. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Knapp: And everyone's gonna be satisfied. Michael Wright: Do you think it can come in several colours? Or did the Kevin Knapp: I would make a backlight of the L_C_D_ screen with different colours. Michael Wright: Um but not the case. Kevin Knapp: Not the case. Michael Wright: Uh the case would only be in that uh aluminium uh titanium stuff, like Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Roger Rogers: Mm. Noel Remo: Because apparently from your survey people like colours, no? Michael Wright: Yeah, Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: well they like uh something which is Kevin Knapp: Okay, Michael Wright: uh Kevin Knapp: so let's remember there's a Nokia phone which changeable panels. Michael Wright: Mm yeah, okay, so that would Kevin Knapp: Do you Michael Wright: be Kevin Knapp: like it? Michael Wright: the option. I don't know I don't have a Nokia phone, but Roger Rogers: But it's Michael Wright: I Roger Rogers: uh Michael Wright: don't use that but again, uh Kevin Knapp: That's why you Michael Wright: I Kevin Knapp: don't Michael Wright: might Kevin Knapp: have it. Michael Wright: Yeah, Kevin Knapp: That's Michael Wright: bu Kevin Knapp: why, 'cause Michael Wright: but Kevin Knapp: it's nasty. Roger Rogers: But it would be expensive, no? If you use colour L_C_D_. Kevin Knapp: No. Roger Rogers: Uh instead of that maybe we can change the colour of Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: the assembler. Maybe we can just if users want more colours they can pay more money to get this uh the shapes and they can have different assembly. Kevin Knapp: Um, I am here. Roger Rogers: So Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: users have different I mean they have their own interests, colour interests and so Noel Remo: So? Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: So we can just if they want they can just pay another two Noel Remo: Uh-huh, Kevin Knapp: 'Kay. Noel Remo: okay, Roger Rogers: Euro. Noel Remo: so you you propose something with option Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: i that increase the price if we Roger Rogers: Yeah yeah yes. Noel Remo: if Roger Rogers: If Noel Remo: you want Roger Rogers: they want like Noel Remo: o Roger Rogers: uh so Noel Remo: more Roger Rogers: that we Noel Remo: colours Roger Rogers: can Noel Remo: on Michael Wright: Kind Roger Rogers: yeah. Michael Wright: of Noel Remo: L_C_D_, Michael Wright: upgradable uh Noel Remo: yeah. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: remote control. Wow, Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: wow. Roger Rogers: Just they'll get few more things and Kevin Knapp: Okay, Roger Rogers: few more colours. Kevin Knapp: what uh there's one more decisi uh one more solution in fact, um 'cause there are some some paints that can change colour according to where they are, like they can reflect different colours Roger Rogers: Lights, yeah. Michael Wright: Mm. Noel Remo: And Kevin Knapp: depending Noel Remo: thermodynamic Kevin Knapp: on what is around, Noel Remo: also. Kevin Knapp: like Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: what Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Knapp: colour Michael Wright: Like Kevin Knapp: is Michael Wright: a Kevin Knapp: around, Michael Wright: chameleon. Kevin Knapp: and depending on the temperature, yeah. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: Yeah yeah. Kevin Knapp: We can make it in fact. Noel Remo: Yeah Roger Rogers: Mm. Noel Remo: but that's Kevin Knapp: If Noel Remo: maybe Kevin Knapp: if if Noel Remo: mo Kevin Knapp: the Noel Remo: too much expensive, Kevin Knapp: okay. Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Noel Remo: yeah. But uh it can be in uh maybe in an a gradable Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm, Noel Remo: version, Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: mm-hmm, Noel Remo: but Michael Wright: Because Kevin Knapp: so Michael Wright: uh I think there are two kinds of people. Those for which the remote control is uh is to be uh something useful uh I'm going to talk about this later but and those for which is something that that that uh is uh specific to them so it it's like a signature. My remote control is pink. Nobody else than Michael Wright has a pink remote control. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Knapp: Uh-huh. Michael Wright: And that makes Michael Wright special. Noel Remo: Okay and you think that we don't have to make to make them pay more because of uh o Michael Wright: I Noel Remo: or Michael Wright: think I think Noel Remo: this Michael Wright: they Noel Remo: is Michael Wright: would be ready p ready to pay more for that. Noel Remo: Okay, so Michael Wright: Those who wanted to have Noel Remo: so Michael Wright: it pink. Noel Remo: i Roger Rogers: Uh Noel Remo: it's not uh a s base Michael Wright: No Noel Remo: service Roger Rogers: Mm. Michael Wright: mm Noel Remo: it's Michael Wright: no. Kevin Knapp: So, Noel Remo: a Kevin Knapp: be an option, yeah. Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: It might be optional, Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: yeah. Roger Rogers: will be really few, no? So like we Michael Wright: The Roger Rogers: can Michael Wright: the young Roger Rogers: those Michael Wright: people the young people want to be different from their friends. Roger Rogers: Ah. Michael Wright: Although similar but have Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: something Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: just slightly better. Pink Noel Remo: So Roger Rogers: Mm. Noel Remo: m so maybe that's if that it's a selling point Michael Wright: Mm. Noel Remo: maybe Kevin Knapp: Yeah, Noel Remo: it has Michael Wright: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: yeah, Noel Remo: to be the base. Kevin Knapp: yeah. But you know if you want to be different you just take your remote control with you all the time. And Michael Wright: Yeah, Kevin Knapp: it Noel Remo: And Kevin Knapp: makes Noel Remo: you'll Kevin Knapp: you different, Noel Remo: be Michael Wright: yeah. Kevin Knapp: you Michael Wright: You always Kevin Knapp: know? Noel Remo: different. Michael Wright: have your Noel Remo: Uh Michael Wright: remote. Oh, Kevin Knapp: Anyone Michael Wright: you don't? Kevin Knapp: has their remote controls Michael Wright: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: here? Michael Wright: You Noel Remo: in Kevin Knapp: No? Noel Remo: the Michael Wright: don't Noel Remo: train Michael Wright: have your remo Noel Remo: uh, hello uh no. Want to change Michael Wright: Wh you Noel Remo: my Michael Wright: you Noel Remo: neighbour. Michael Wright: know like for instance take the iPod. It's a kind of remote control. Uh it's white Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: and it's so white that you see it from any anywhere. It Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: has this distinctive look and feel and look which people seems to like Kevin Knapp: Okay. Michael Wright: just because it's a colour that we don't usually see in a remote control. White. Kevin Knapp: Uh-huh, Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Knapp: uh-huh. Could Michael Wright: Seems Kevin Knapp: we integrate Michael Wright: important. Kevin Knapp: something into our remote control, something like light? Roger Rogers: Hmm. Kevin Knapp: That they can use it in darkness, like. Michael Wright: Mm Kevin Knapp: Hand Michael Wright: glow Kevin Knapp: light, Michael Wright: in the dark, Kevin Knapp: yeah. Michael Wright: so Roger Rogers: Yeah maybe like the infrared like we can put some Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: radium chips or something so that like at least um yeah. Noel Remo: Iradium? Kevin Knapp: Okay. Roger Rogers: Yeah, Noel Remo: Ah Kevin Knapp: Okay. Noel Remo: sorry. Roger Rogers: that Noel Remo: Mm. Okay. Michael Wright: Okay. Kevin Knapp: Okay. S Noel Remo: So mm Kevin Knapp: well, let's go on maybe Michael Wright: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: with the presentation. Michael Wright: Uh-huh, Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: yeah sure. Kevin Knapp: And um Roger Rogers: Oh. Kevin Knapp: the remote control's going to be smart but how smart should it be to not to complicate things too much? And uh I dunno that's a question to you and to mm Michael Wright: Well so I Kevin Knapp: to Michael Wright: heard that uh it seems that speech recognition is something that can be done uh so that's the smartness of the thing. Currently Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: we don't have guns with speech recognition or uh beer cans with speech recognition but we may have remote controls with speech recognition. Kevin Knapp: Okay, Michael Wright: I Kevin Knapp: okay. Michael Wright: dunno. Noel Remo: Mm, Kevin Knapp: So Noel Remo: that's Kevin Knapp: just Noel Remo: a nice Kevin Knapp: just Noel Remo: world. Kevin Knapp: just just think about it um. Michael Wright: Don't touch the remote. Kevin Knapp: Thank you. Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: But yeah. Are are you saying here that uh the remote controls should be aware of who is using it? So for instance the young guy would not be able to use it because his father doesn't want. Kevin Knapp: Uh yeah Michael Wright: Like with Kevin Knapp: I just Michael Wright: some Kevin Knapp: want to say it should be real Michael Wright: Maybe Kevin Knapp: smart. Michael Wright: fingerprint recognition or Kevin Knapp: Voice recognition is quite tough. I say don't use it, and the control just looks. Michael Wright: Mm. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: 'Cause I Michael Wright: Um Kevin Knapp: ordered jus Michael Wright: Mm. Roger Rogers: Uh Kevin Knapp: To l Roger Rogers: that Kevin Knapp: to l lock it. Roger Rogers: mm that could be feasible I guess, like Michael Wright: Okay. Roger Rogers: So since we have we want to do some speaker dependent speech recognition uh so Michael Wright: So it could Roger Rogers: we Michael Wright: be Roger Rogers: can use yeah. Michael Wright: smart in that Roger Rogers: Yeah, Michael Wright: way. Roger Rogers: yeah. Noel Remo: Mm. Okay. Michael Wright: But for instance th I I'm thinking about the other uh uh particularity that the the remote control could have. S since it it knows who is using it, it might also record the kind of uh channels you are u more often using and Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: uh levels of volumes that you're more often uh Kevin Knapp: Yeah, sure. Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: things like that Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: and provide you ways of using them, I dunno, somehow, I dunno, Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: that might be expensive but Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: Uh it's Michael Wright: that might also be a good sales pitch again. Roger Rogers: Hmm. Michael Wright: The remote that knows you. Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Noel Remo: Okay. Kevin Knapp: Okay, thanks. Noel Remo: So Michael Wright: My turn? Noel Remo: it's yeah, Marketing Expert. Michael Wright: Okay, it's alright. Noel Remo: Participant Roger Rogers: Four. Noel Remo: two? Four, Michael Wright: Four, I think. Noel Remo: sorry. Michael Wright: Trend, yeah. No uh yes. Okay, so I'm going to talk about trends and um I hope this can help us to to understand l how we should design our remote control. So, next slide please. So first maybe just a small recap on how how do we watch trends so it's not so uh simple you might think that it's easy but uh it's not so simple. Anyway these days uh the best uh source of information is the web as you know, so have to to go often on the web and look at uh what the others are doing, and ask real people who are using real remote controls every day uh or any other tool that is similar to a remote control which basically is a small device that people have with them, always, like a phone. We can we can use the phone as a as a good uh uh example of where to in be inspired. Of course those tha d who are watching the trends are also have also to be inspired because in fact they're not only watching the trends, they're inventing it, they're creating the trend. I hope I'm going to try to help you on that. This is more risky because you're not following the trend, you try to invent it, which means either you succeed and you make a lot of money or you don't and you're out of business. So anyway uh next slide please. Uh to be to be quick there's a lot of words here but uh basically there are uh in in the market of of remote controls there are three aspects that we should very pay much attention to. The first one, which seems to be the most important one, is that it has to be fancy, it has to have a fancy look and feel. And uh interestingly this is the very most important thing. It has to be fancy. Strangely enough it's more important to be fancy than to be wi and now that's the second thing it has to be, it has to be technologically i innovative, it has to be new with some of uh new uh technology inside and uh and this is also uh more important than the last thing which we w may think that would have been the most important, which is that it should be easy to use and it should be easy to use as a remote control. So as you see uh it first have to be very nice, s something that people are proud of uh uh that i uh they can be Roger Rogers identified with uh and and then uh something that um contains very novel stuff that they can talk about with their friends, huh, mine has this and not yours. And finally of course it has to be useful as a remote control but it seems that it's not so important that it's useful as a remote control. Next slide please. Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: Uh and now in a more uh general uh uh broad way of seeing th uh the thing. If we look back and not uh look at only remote controls I think it's important to see that the trends are quite the same in many areas so currently the the trends that we see in l in l big cities like Paris and Milan, well, it seems that this year things should have uh a fruit and vegetable uh way of of look or feel or so. And I think of course uh i it applies to everything. That's the thing with trends. It it can travel f from clothe to furniture same idea. Fruit and vegetable. Think fruit and vegetable. And uh if we co we compare to last year, now it has to be spongy, Roger Rogers: Mm. Kevin Knapp: What is Michael Wright: yeah. Kevin Knapp: spongy? Michael Wright: Well this Roger Rogers: Yeah kind of Michael Wright: so Roger Rogers: um maybe Michael Wright: so I think uh uh i When we were talking about rubber, I think Roger Rogers: Yeah Michael Wright: uh Roger Rogers: it Michael Wright: the rubber aspect might be important because it's what is Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: probably Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: more feasible Noel Remo: S Michael Wright: in terms of sponginess. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: So maybe titanium it's not a good idea. Michael Wright: Seems not, seems not. Roger Rogers: We need to think about mm Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: mm. Michael Wright: Yeah. So Noel Remo: Um sorry Mark. It seems Michael Wright: Think Noel Remo: to Michael Wright: more Noel Remo: be Michael Wright: of uh something in the colours of uh like fruit Roger Rogers: Fruit. Michael Wright: and vegetables and spongy, Roger Rogers: Even Michael Wright: as a Roger Rogers: shape? Michael Wright: even in the shape it has to be more round and uh Roger Rogers: More Michael Wright: more uh Noel Remo: Mm-mm. Roger Rogers: yeah. Michael Wright: uh look natural Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: somehow. I mean And not those futuristic uh remote control with angles and uh Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: and titanium like. Roger Rogers: Mm. Michael Wright: So that's Noel Remo: Hmm. Michael Wright: what people seem to yeah i I know Noel Remo: You're Michael Wright: it's Noel Remo: old-fashioned. Michael Wright: quite Noel Remo: Sorry. Michael Wright: far from what you thought but that's that's fashion and Kevin Knapp: Okay. Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: Okay that's all I have to say. Noel Remo: Mm you have questions? Roger Rogers: So these abilities are mainly ad addressed by young people? Or it's Michael Wright: These I'm sorry. Roger Rogers: This you you so did Michael Wright: Yeah, Roger Rogers: you Michael Wright: yeah we have people uh uh listening Roger Rogers: Where? Michael Wright: to the trends everywhere in Roger Rogers: Oh. Michael Wright: the world, of course, Roger Rogers: Oh, okay, Michael Wright: as you know our company is quite big Roger Rogers: mm-hmm. Michael Wright: and uh so I'm Roger Rogers: It's Michael Wright: just Roger Rogers: not from Michael Wright: asking them Roger Rogers: mm. Michael Wright: what are the current trends Roger Rogers: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: according to them when they go in the stores and Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: when they ask uh their uh friends that are Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: also Roger Rogers: It's more general Michael Wright: well. Roger Rogers: trend it's not particular to the remote Michael Wright: No, Roger Rogers: control. Michael Wright: it's not it's not this this is very general, yeah. But it seems that trends travel Roger Rogers: Mm. Michael Wright: across things. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: The what we Roger Rogers: Yeah but some materials n they're to be uh they're to be something like solid like they can't be really Michael Wright: Sure. Roger Rogers: spongy or Michael Wright: Yeah. We Roger Rogers: yeah Michael Wright: have to I Roger Rogers: yeah. Michael Wright: think we have to have the look of Roger Rogers: yeah, Michael Wright: fruit Roger Rogers: yeah Michael Wright: and vegetables Roger Rogers: sponge, yeah yeah at least Michael Wright: but Roger Rogers: that's Michael Wright: we still have to put our chips inside, so Roger Rogers: Yeah yeah Michael Wright: of course. This is your problem. Roger Rogers: that yeah Michael Wright: This is not mine. Roger Rogers: yeah. Yeah. Yeah, looking yeah fruit. These things can be easily incorporated. We can Michael Wright: Yeah, Roger Rogers: have Michael Wright: I think in Roger Rogers: t Michael Wright: the Roger Rogers: colours Michael Wright: colours and Roger Rogers: or Michael Wright: in the uh the kind of Roger Rogers: this Michael Wright: material. Roger Rogers: shape or at least Michael Wright: If Roger Rogers: yeah. Michael Wright: if it's something like rubber made or Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: I think it it's Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: also going to be good. Roger Rogers: Mm. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: Okay? Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: Okay. No more question? Okay. Michael Wright: Yep. Thanks. Noel Remo: So Mm-hmm. Okay, so we will have uh next meeting in thirty minutes again. Um now you have to go straight on this individual action which i which are for Rama uh Roger Rogers: Look Noel Remo: wil Roger Rogers: and feel de Noel Remo: design, um Mark the user interface design, and uh Sammy uh the product evaluation. Michael Wright: Mm-hmm. Noel Remo: Uh you will work together uh Roger Rogers: Hmm. Noel Remo: on a new on on a prototype using modelling clay. Roger Rogers: Hmm. Mm sounds interesting. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm um and I as always your personal coach will send you specific instruction. Michael Wright: Okay. Kevin Knapp: Okay. Michael Wright: Thanks. Roger Rogers: So, can we highlight the specific features of our Noel Remo: Yeah you're right, you have Roger Rogers: yeah, Noel Remo: to Roger Rogers: so so we want the speech recogniser and we want some kind of buttons and we want some themes like fruits or vegetables, that's Noel Remo: So Roger Rogers: we Noel Remo: you Roger Rogers: want Noel Remo: say Roger Rogers: to follow Noel Remo: s Roger Rogers: general trend. Michael Wright: Spongy. Noel Remo: S Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: do we agree on that? Yeah. We have to. Roger Rogers: So, do you think Kevin Knapp: So we have to uh for Michael Wright: No, we don't have to, Noel Remo: No. Michael Wright: but seems it's Roger Rogers: Hmm. Michael Wright: the trend. Again, Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: as I said we can also try to make it, Kevin Knapp: yeah Michael Wright: to Kevin Knapp: so Michael Wright: create the trend. So there's Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: no Kevin Knapp: are we confident enough on creating trends? Michael Wright: Well, that's you t can try to convince us. Kevin Knapp: Well, we can make it smell like fruit. Michael Wright: Okay. Noel Remo: Okay, that's a good idea. Roger Rogers: That's Michael Wright: that's Noel Remo: So Michael Wright: a Noel Remo: titanium Michael Wright: good idea, Noel Remo: smell like fruit. Michael Wright: I Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Roger Rogers: So what about location and these things, people are really interesting on those features? Or they really like Michael Wright: Uh Roger Rogers: They more want these fancy Michael Wright: I think i Roger Rogers: features Michael Wright: yeah Roger Rogers: like Michael Wright: i it's again in this uh what I said first it has to be fancy so I think if nobody else pro Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: provides currently a remote control with that kind of stuff Roger Rogers: Feature Michael Wright: and if we can provide it I think it's a good sell for Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: us because we have Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: it and others don't. Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: It's fancy. Whether it's useful or not doesn't seem to be very important. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: I I agree Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: with uh this uh Now we have to decide on what kind of fanciness. Do we take titanium smelling like fruit, or do we make spongy uh Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: fruity-like Roger Rogers: Uh we will try to explore these two options Michael Wright: Maybe you Roger Rogers: and Michael Wright: could Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: explore the Roger Rogers: yeah Michael Wright: two option. Noel Remo: Yeah, Roger Rogers: yeah. Noel Remo: yeah. Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Could we make a titanium shape? Roger Rogers: Uh Kevin Knapp: I mean Roger Rogers: yeah at least like we can make Kevin Knapp: fruit-shaped. Roger Rogers: banana or Noel Remo: Don't Kevin Knapp: But Noel Remo: you say that you cannot do double shape uh Roger Rogers: yeah Kevin Knapp: Doub Michael Wright: Mm. Roger Rogers: it's Kevin Knapp: double-curved. Noel Remo: curved Roger Rogers: it's Noel Remo: shape Michael Wright: Seems to Roger Rogers: yeah Noel Remo: yeah. Roger Rogers: that's Michael Wright: be. Roger Rogers: a we're to look for Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Okay. Roger Rogers: and and Kevin Knapp: Okay, okay. Roger Rogers: s we're to see the whether rubber is expensive and Kevin Knapp: In Roger Rogers: d Kevin Knapp: fact I just agreed to make uh to make the like titanium panels on a whole rubber body. Roger Rogers: Hmm. Kevin Knapp: Well, okay Noel Remo: Mm-mm. Kevin Knapp: w we'll Noel Remo: Okay, Kevin Knapp: see. Noel Remo: so you explore now that you're going to work together Kevin Knapp: Yeah Roger Rogers: Mm. Noel Remo: these these two. Or or spongy an Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: yeah. Roger Rogers: Maybe we can have two different assembly also like one spongy and one kind of titanium. Noel Remo: Mm. Roger Rogers: we have only the plastic or the Kevin Knapp: We'll see. Michael Wright: If Roger Rogers: the Michael Wright: you have Roger Rogers: chippy Michael Wright: time. Kevin Knapp: We'll see. Roger Rogers: yeah Noel Remo: Mm. Roger Rogers: fibre chips or Noel Remo: Yeah I don't think w I think we have to choose. If we choose Roger Rogers: Uh. Noel Remo: uh titanium or if we choose spongy but uh it Kevin Knapp: We'll see. Noel Remo: cannot be Kevin Knapp: I Noel Remo: both. Kevin Knapp: I really don't like this modelling clay Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: 'cause you know it makes some for for I dunno Michael Wright: For creation. Kevin Knapp: uh yeah Roger Rogers: Yeah. Kevin Knapp: um we'll look. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: Ah you can pretend Roger Rogers: Even Noel Remo: that Roger Rogers: design. Noel Remo: it's uh titanium. Michael Wright: You can paint it afterward. Kevin Knapp: Okay, Michael Wright: No problem. We have a very large department Kevin Knapp: okay. Michael Wright: of paint. Noel Remo: Yeah, do don't worry, you you Michael Wright: You will do it. Noel Remo: you speak with Kevin Knapp: Alright, alright. Noel Remo: mm mm. Okay. So explore a shape. Roger Rogers: So still we want to keep L_C_D_? Or Noel Remo: Mm I think it's what Michael Wright: Yeah. Noel Remo: we say, that we have an uh an L_C_D_ with uh information. Roger Rogers: Okay. Noel Remo: Not Michael Wright: The thing is Noel Remo: uh Michael Wright: that uh if we want to have as he says if we want to have uh a small number of buttons Roger Rogers: Yeah, then we Michael Wright: we Roger Rogers: can Michael Wright: need to have a kind of output that Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: says currently what their Roger Rogers: yeah, Michael Wright: actions are. Roger Rogers: yeah, that user friendly or Michael Wright: Yeah. Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: That's Roger Rogers: Mm. Michael Wright: the converse to having zillions Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: of button where each button does only Noel Remo: Mm. Michael Wright: one thing. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: Okay. Roger Rogers: and we just stick with two batteries so it's not any solar Michael Wright: Yeah. Roger Rogers: or Michael Wright: Classical, Roger Rogers: yeah Michael Wright: we stay Noel Remo: Yeah, Michael Wright: classical Roger Rogers: yeah Noel Remo: yeah, Roger Rogers: j Michael Wright: in that Noel Remo: yeah. Roger Rogers: yeah, because Michael Wright: we don't reinvent uh Noel Remo: Mm. Roger Rogers: Yeah. Michael Wright: the wheel. Anyway it's very in general I think people uh change T_V_ more often than batteries of their remote control. So. Noel Remo: Yeah. Michael Wright: Because the trend goes faster than the life of the Noel Remo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Knapp: Mm-hmm. Michael Wright: So it's very Noel Remo: Okay. Michael Wright: Okay. Noel Remo: So Roger Rogers: Yeah. Noel Remo: are we Kevin Knapp: Yeah. Michael Wright: We're done. Roger Rogers: Yeah, Noel Remo: mm. Roger Rogers: we're done. Noel Remo: Okay. So see you in thirty minutes. Roger Rogers: Yep.	Noel Remo stated the agenda and set the goals for the current meeting. Roger Rogers discussed different options for batteries, case materials and shapes, chips, and interface components and also discussed the components necessary for a speech recognition capable remote control. Kevin Knapp presented his concept for the interface design which he called the "millennium remote control". Kevin Knapp also discussed with the team color options and how to make a "smart" remote which is in tune with the user's preferences. Michael Wright discussed current findings from trend watching reports which indicated that there is a desire for products to have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, and be spongy. Noel Remo gave the team members their assignments and then the team went over the decisions they had made and discussed whether to use titanium or rubber in their design.	3	amisum	train
Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: So, Albert Garduno: So, uh Cornelius Baker: Hi Albert Garduno: now Cornelius Baker: Christa. Albert Garduno: it's the Hi Sammy. It's the detail design meeting, so we're going last meeting. So um, first uh Mark and Rama are going to present uh the prototype. Uh then uh Sammy will propose some uh crite cr criteria to evaluate this prototype. Then, w we Cornelius Baker: Yes. Ralph Sims: Yes. Albert Garduno: And then we going to do some finance Ralph Sims: And chocolate? Albert Garduno: to see if uh it is uh feasible and uh at the end we will we will um evaluate ourself as a team And. that's all. Cornelius Baker: Mm. Albert Garduno: Okay. So first, let's uh see the prototype. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Uh, here we our prototype model. Albert Garduno: Okay. Ralph Sims: Mm-hmm. Albert Garduno: And you Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: have some slides then? Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Ralph Sims: Yes, Robert Dorrance: we Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: have also some Albert Garduno: Mm. Robert Dorrance: slides. Ralph Sims: and place some Albert Garduno: Okay. Ralph Sims: slides. Albert Garduno: Uh so in which uh Robert Dorrance: In Ralph Sims: Uh, participant three. Prototype. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Mm okay. Mm. Robert Dorrance: Five. Ralph Sims: Uh, so Robert Dorrance: Him. Ralph Sims: this is our remote control. It's a r working prototype. You can use it now by switching all these buttons. So first, I present as we came to this perfect model, and Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Ralph Sims: then we'll give some technical specifications. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: That's well, so that's that. Please, next slide. We analysed all the fruits and NASA, and uh made some Albert Garduno: MASA? Ralph Sims: real good Yeah. If you can see this, and the stars are showing that. And um, Cornelius Baker: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: s society will accept that. For sure. And making some analysis of different fruits, we choose the ultimate form, ultimate colours, and uh ultimate smell of it. S please, next slide. But we still didn't want to go far from our titanium idea, 'cause it's the most of the moder the m the modern material we can p select. And it's practical. And it's still say it's for our needs, so please press something. And as I said, Albert Garduno: Okay. Ralph Sims: it's perfect. Please Robert Dorrance: Experience. Ralph Sims: press it. Robert Dorrance: Explanat Ralph Sims: Everyone is f really uh really glad to obtain an Cornelius Baker: Such a nice Robert Dorrance: See Ralph Sims: s Robert Dorrance: this. Cornelius Baker: thing. Ralph Sims: such a r such a device. So you can touch it with your hands. Cornelius Baker: Can I? Ho-ho. Ralph Sims: Sure. Robert Dorrance: You can Ralph Sims: Yes. Albert Garduno: What do you say? Ralph Sims: N Cornelius Baker: It says Ralph Sims: You Cornelius Baker: I Ralph Sims: must Cornelius Baker: will Ralph Sims: say it. Cornelius Baker: uh Robert Dorrance: Spongy. Cornelius Baker: I'll buy it. Ralph Sims: Yeah. Albert Garduno: One day. Cornelius Baker: If I if I need Albert Garduno: He Cornelius Baker: so. Hopefully my daughter will like it. Ralph Sims: Okay. Y and we got the answer. Uh, it Cornelius Baker: Yes, Ralph Sims: is, Cornelius Baker: of Ralph Sims: yes, Cornelius Baker: course. Of Ralph Sims: of course. Cornelius Baker: c course. Ralph Sims: please next slide. Um, this is a prototype. You can have a look at it, and Cornelius Baker: Ah. Ralph Sims: That's all I wanted to say. Now Robert Dorrance: Hmm. Ralph Sims: it's technical specification by our colleague. Albert Garduno: Hmm. Robert Dorrance: So Cornelius Baker: Oh, there is a button missing. Okay Robert Dorrance: Yeah. This this is really flexible. You can add your Cornelius Baker: It's. Robert Dorrance: buttons. Cornelius Baker: in option. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. So function, mm Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: So, as we discussed, we to switch on switch off whenever we want And so, we have buttons and using L_C_D_, or like you can use this jog wheel and select which ever option on the L_C_D_, and then do on and off. Then you ha you'll have volume control. So, you you can press these buttons to increase or decrease the volume. And we have some L_C_D_ controls. Like, m switching the L_C_D_ display if you want to use L_C_D_, or you don't want you can just use Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: normal button. And we have speech recognition. Here you have microphone, and then Cornelius Baker: Hmm. Robert Dorrance: it date records your voice, and then it try to recognise. And it can also do the action. And location finder. And we want to do the location basically using speech recogniser. Cornelius Baker: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: You can just say, where is my remote control. Or uh, you can just give some nickname to your remote control, Cornelius Baker: Hey, Robert Dorrance: like Bobby. Cornelius Baker: babe. Albert Garduno: Bobby. Robert Dorrance: And then, Cornelius Baker: Bob. Robert Dorrance: it will say hi. Cornelius Baker: Hey Bob. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: Okay, Robert Dorrance: hi, and then Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: you can Cornelius Baker: that's good. Robert Dorrance: use Albert Garduno: Hmm. Robert Dorrance: it. Albert Garduno: 'Kay. Robert Dorrance: So, um our team is now fruits. Mainly strawberry. So, you can have Cornelius Baker: Oh, these are strawberries. Robert Dorrance: And then you can see the look L_C_D_ and all the switches. Albert Garduno: Are colourful. Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Material, we want to stick to titanium. We will send, we want Cornelius Baker: Fruit Robert Dorrance: to Cornelius Baker: smelling spongy titanium. I didn't know it exist, but that's great. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, or s So, we want to have simple and perfect shapes, like I shown in these phones. You can have your own designs and and you can feel simple designs. And you can choose colours Cornelius Baker: Ha. Robert Dorrance: on your day for each Albert Garduno: Ho-ho. Robert Dorrance: day, or even many colours. Cornelius Baker: You mean we Albert Garduno: That's Cornelius Baker: can Albert Garduno: for Cornelius Baker: change Albert Garduno: the Cornelius Baker: the colour Albert Garduno: L_C_D_ Cornelius Baker: uh Albert Garduno: or Cornelius Baker: of Albert Garduno: for Cornelius Baker: th Albert Garduno: the titanium? Robert Dorrance: For Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: the L_C_D_. Cornelius Baker: Yeah okay, for the L_C_D_. Robert Dorrance: With titanium it's Cornelius Baker: Tit titanium Robert Dorrance: it is Cornelius Baker: is Robert Dorrance: silver. Ralph Sims: We are still working Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Ralph Sims: on titanium. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Uh, okay. Ralph Sims: So, Robert Dorrance: Mm, yeah. Ralph Sims: r we'll start with L_C_D_. You can ask Bob. It's Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Tuesday. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Bob, please. Albert Garduno: Hey, you know you're theme today. Cornelius Baker: Tuesday colour. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Even you Cornelius Baker: Okay. Robert Dorrance: can configure your colours for its the Albert Garduno: Hmm. Robert Dorrance: depending on Cornelius Baker: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: your mood, or s Cornelius Baker: Black for Sunday. Robert Dorrance: And you can have many colours on weekends. Or Albert Garduno: And w wait, wh what are the strawberries for? Cornelius Baker: On the L_C_D_? Robert Dorrance: Huh? Albert Garduno: Wh Cornelius Baker: Oh. Albert Garduno: wh Robert Dorrance: Ah, these are like sensors. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: Of course. What do you think? Ralph Sims: That's location Cornelius Baker: Strawberry Ralph Sims: sensors. Cornelius Baker: sensors. Very useful. Albert Garduno: Okay. Strawberries. Robert Dorrance: So, after this meeting we'll propose a party for our success Albert Garduno: Ah. Robert Dorrance: for Cornelius Baker: Lounge meeting. Robert Dorrance: So, if you are vegetarian or you have any options, please let us know. Ralph Sims: Yeah, and we can just some strawberry Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: first. Um Cornelius Baker: Alright. Good. Albert Garduno: Okay. Ralph Sims: Oops. Robert Dorrance: S Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: So, huh. Interesting. Robert Dorrance: So, any specific Cornelius Baker: In Robert Dorrance: questions Cornelius Baker: interesting. Robert Dorrance: for Cornelius Baker: Mm mm. Albert Garduno: Uh we'll see in the financial part if uh Cornelius Baker: It Albert Garduno: all Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: makes sense. Albert Garduno: gets into Ralph Sims: Let's make a party first maybe. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Then we can discuss We Albert Garduno: W Robert Dorrance: can Albert Garduno: Who is the five uh fifty millions we first make a party in? Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: Yeah, then Cornelius Baker: uh, Robert Dorrance: we can Cornelius Baker: this Robert Dorrance: have Cornelius Baker: is Robert Dorrance: how much for how money is left. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: What a design. Albert Garduno: Okay. Uh, so Cornelius Baker: It's Albert Garduno: Let's Cornelius Baker: my turn. Albert Garduno: uh, yeah, let's see if Cornelius Baker: Mm-hmm. Albert Garduno: uh th it's Cornelius Baker: Let's Albert Garduno: meet Cornelius Baker: see if Albert Garduno: the Cornelius Baker: this Albert Garduno: evaluation criterium. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, if you meet the evaluation criterion. Albert Garduno: Oops. Robert Dorrance: Fudge. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. So, evaluation please. So. You made a very nice prototype, and um, I think, we now need altogether to try to evaluate it to see if it makes sense to do it, if it fulfils our what we want to do, and things like that. So mm Uh, next slide, please. As you know, before going and uh creating and producing these strawberry uh Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: remote control, it's very important to first verify if it makes sense, if we have a chance to sell it. Uh, so we need to evaluate it um, try to do it in a constative way, and as much as we can. To so what I propose is that we are going to to have this scale from one to seven. One meaning that, ye yes uh it fulfils uh the the criterion, whatever it is. And seven meaning, no it doesn't fulfil at all. And we're all l going to list all the criterion. I'm going to go to that next slide, Albert Garduno: Okay. Cornelius Baker: and together try to evaluate this according to this criterion and from one to seven. And then we are just going to have an average, which will give us the value of our uh remote control. So, maybe we can have a look at the criteria? Robert Dorrance: Fancy. Cornelius Baker: So these are the criterion uh I'm I thought were important. Of course, this can be discussed, but let's let's see, so let's vote. So we have fancy here and we have the scale Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: from one to seven with four in the middle. So, Robert Dorrance: Huh. Yeah, what's is Cornelius Baker: what Robert Dorrance: really Cornelius Baker: do you think, is it fancy? Robert Dorrance: Uh, it's really Albert Garduno: Uh, I think that fancy, we can say it is fancy. Cornelius Baker: It is very very fancy. Or have you ever seen something like that? Albert Garduno: Oh. I am not the d the only one Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Albert Garduno: choosing, Cornelius Baker: of course. Albert Garduno: yeah. Cornelius Baker: What Albert Garduno: Uh Cornelius Baker: do you Albert Garduno: what Cornelius Baker: think? Albert Garduno: do you think? Ralph Sims: Feel Cornelius Baker: Is it Ralph Sims: the weight. Cornelius Baker: The weight is later. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Oh. Ralph Sims: Really. Albert Garduno: Uh-huh. Cornelius Baker: Now we're Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: We're on the fanciness now. I think it's quite fancy. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, yeah. Cornelius Baker: It's Robert Dorrance: We Cornelius Baker: uh Robert Dorrance: can Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: give at least Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: five or Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Robert Dorrance: six, Cornelius Baker: so Robert Dorrance: seven. Cornelius Baker: No it's it's Albert Garduno: It's Cornelius Baker: one. Albert Garduno: in the other. Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Robert Dorrance: Oh, Cornelius Baker: o Robert Dorrance: Oh. So Cornelius Baker: one means it's, Robert Dorrance: Oh, Cornelius Baker: yes, Robert Dorrance: okay. Cornelius Baker: a very Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: fancy Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: and Robert Dorrance: okay. Cornelius Baker: seven mean no at Robert Dorrance: Oh, okay. Cornelius Baker: all. Robert Dorrance: So Cornelius Baker: So it's one or two. What Albert Garduno: Two. Cornelius Baker: do Robert Dorrance: M Cornelius Baker: you think? Robert Dorrance: maybe Albert Garduno: Let's Cornelius Baker: Two? Albert Garduno: say Robert Dorrance: two. Albert Garduno: two, yeah. Cornelius Baker: Okay. Ralph Sims: Two. Two. Cornelius Baker: So here, two. Up. Then we have Robert Dorrance: Technology. Cornelius Baker: uh technology. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Um Cornelius Baker: So, what about technology? We have uh we have speech recognition, we have location based, Robert Dorrance: And Cornelius Baker: we Robert Dorrance: we have L_C_D_. Cornelius Baker: have L_C_D_. Robert Dorrance: So Albert Garduno: Change Robert Dorrance: you Albert Garduno: colour of Cornelius Baker: Change Albert Garduno: t Robert Dorrance: change Cornelius Baker: colour, Robert Dorrance: colours. Cornelius Baker: I mean that's very Robert Dorrance: Useful. Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: Quite Albert Garduno: I think it's Cornelius Baker: d Ralph Sims: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: I Albert Garduno: a Cornelius Baker: think Ralph Sims: yeah, Cornelius Baker: it's Ralph Sims: yeah. Cornelius Baker: a one for that, Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: at Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Ralph Sims: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: least. Robert Dorrance: yeah. Ralph Sims: Uh Robert Dorrance: It's Cornelius Baker: At Robert Dorrance: silly. Cornelius Baker: least a one, yeah. Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Cornelius Baker: Robustness, Robert Dorrance: Uh, Cornelius Baker: uh-huh. Robert Dorrance: still we need to cha Cornelius Baker: So let's suppose my daughter take it and um Albert Garduno: Um Cornelius Baker: and through it away. Do you think it makes sense that it's going to live again? Uh, Albert Garduno: The Cornelius Baker: maybe Albert Garduno: strawberries Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: not the prototype. Robert Dorrance: it Albert Garduno: Oh. Cornelius Baker: Let's try. Oh my god. Robert Dorrance: Maybe strawberry. Cornelius Baker: Okay, we just lost one strawberry. Ralph Sims: No. Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: Oh. Ralph Sims: No. Cornelius Baker: Not at all? Ralph Sims: How can I say this. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, we can easily Ralph Sims: It's still Robert Dorrance: plug it. Ralph Sims: it's still working, and Cornelius Baker: It Ralph Sims: your Cornelius Baker: is Ralph Sims: daughter got a bonus. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Ralph Sims: A strawberry. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. So it's not so bad. Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Cornelius Baker: I Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: um Robert Dorrance: yeah. Cornelius Baker: uh I would say three. Albert Garduno: Yeah. But it's Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Albert Garduno: too. Cornelius Baker: that does Albert Garduno: It's Cornelius Baker: make Albert Garduno: um Cornelius Baker: sense, yeah? Albert Garduno: robust, yeah. Robert Dorrance: Useful? Cornelius Baker: Useful. Well, so the question is does it have uh the minimum requirement of re remote control? Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: So I don't know. These buttons are uh Albert Garduno: Oh, Cornelius Baker: It Albert Garduno: yeah, Cornelius Baker: not Albert Garduno: lets Cornelius Baker: clear. Albert Garduno: Cornelius Baker try. Cornelius Baker: But you have at least uh Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: next Albert Garduno: What Cornelius Baker: produce. Albert Garduno: is uh next, Robert Dorrance: Yeah, channel. Albert Garduno: please? Robert Dorrance: I this is volume control and channel changes. Cornelius Baker: Uh, it depends Robert Dorrance: These Cornelius Baker: on Robert Dorrance: are Cornelius Baker: the Robert Dorrance: the main Cornelius Baker: Okay. Albert Garduno: And you can uh do di Robert Dorrance: You Albert Garduno: two sites? Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, and you can do on L_C_D_ using these Albert Garduno: Okay, Robert Dorrance: going Albert Garduno: also. Robert Dorrance: to scrolling all the option. Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: So Cornelius Baker: but, Robert Dorrance: if Cornelius Baker: for Robert Dorrance: you Cornelius Baker: instance, Robert Dorrance: don't want Cornelius Baker: because the L_C_D_ is not uh touch control, touch screen, Robert Dorrance: Yeah, um Cornelius Baker: you Robert Dorrance: yeah. Cornelius Baker: cannot go to channel twenty five directly. Albert Garduno: You can, Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: You Albert Garduno: by Ralph Sims: can. Albert Garduno: using the Cornelius Baker: Directly. Ralph Sims: You go you So, Albert Garduno: You Ralph Sims: the Albert Garduno: c Ralph Sims: basic Albert Garduno: push Ralph Sims: mode Albert Garduno: here the the Ralph Sims: Yeah. Albert Garduno: yeah. Ralph Sims: So that's simple. The basic mode is uh you got just two buttons Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Ralph Sims: and a jog dial. With Cornelius Baker: Oh, Ralph Sims: two buttons, Cornelius Baker: it's a jog Ralph Sims: you Cornelius Baker: dial, Ralph Sims: do this Cornelius Baker: okay. Ralph Sims: like uh volume up, volume down. Cornelius Baker: Uh-huh. Robert Dorrance: And Ralph Sims: Or Robert Dorrance: channel. Ralph Sims: if you go to the site, it's channel up channel down. Cornelius Baker: Okay. Ralph Sims: And if you want to make to s twenty-five, you push on this. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: You can select. Ralph Sims: You select twenty, you select five. Cornelius Baker: Okay. Ralph Sims: That's it. Robert Dorrance: Yeah mm. Cornelius Baker: It's much longer than Ralph Sims: No. Cornelius Baker: that that being two two five, no? Don't you think so? we can go. That's uh You're right. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y you need Cornelius Baker: That's Robert Dorrance: to like Cornelius Baker: it's Robert Dorrance: press Cornelius Baker: less Robert Dorrance: two and Cornelius Baker: uh Robert Dorrance: five and Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: But it's it's nice, because people anyway don't go there. But Robert Dorrance: Yeah, yeah. Yeah mm. Cornelius Baker: So what do you think for it, usefulness? Robert Dorrance: So, Cornelius Baker: Seems Robert Dorrance: d Cornelius Baker: to be useful. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, we need to address we want we only address two main functions here and the other functions will be on L_C_D_. So Albert Garduno: Let Cornelius Baker understand Robert Dorrance: so Albert Garduno: well, because I'm not sure that's for that Cornelius Baker: Both. Albert Garduno: this one are b d uh two dir directional Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Albert Garduno: button. Yeah, Ralph Sims: Yeah. Albert Garduno: two Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Up Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: down Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: or left Robert Dorrance: Up. Cornelius Baker: right. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Albert Garduno: And which what is that? Cornelius Baker: That Ralph Sims: It's a jog Robert Dorrance: This Ralph Sims: dial Robert Dorrance: is Ralph Sims: for controlling Robert Dorrance: jog wheel. Ralph Sims: the cursor on Albert Garduno: Okay, Ralph Sims: the L_C_D_ Albert Garduno: okay. Ralph Sims: screen. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: It's Ralph Sims: Like, Albert Garduno: a kind Ralph Sims: selecting Albert Garduno: Oh, okay Ralph Sims: the Robert Dorrance: Um, Ralph Sims: menus. Albert Garduno: okay. Robert Dorrance: see in Cornelius Baker: Cool. Robert Dorrance: L_C_D_, like you will have blocks and you Albert Garduno: Oh Robert Dorrance: select Albert Garduno: oh Robert Dorrance: which Albert Garduno: okay, Robert Dorrance: one. Albert Garduno: great. Cornelius Baker: I would say then uh Albert Garduno: Now it's looks us useful. Cornelius Baker: Two or three? Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Two or Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: three? Robert Dorrance: Two, Cornelius Baker: Two. Okay, Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: two. Robert Dorrance: maybe. Cornelius Baker: So size and weight. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, yeah. Cornelius Baker: Is it the the the effective size and weight that the Is it uh real size, real weight? Or Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: Because Robert Dorrance: it's Cornelius Baker: it Robert Dorrance: size al almost Cornelius Baker: Size is going to be that, Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: yeah? Robert Dorrance: because it is Cornelius Baker: Uh, and and Robert Dorrance: The weight will be bit lighter. We will s Ralph Sims: Sure, without Robert Dorrance: We use Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Robert Dorrance: titanium. Ralph Sims: titanium Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: alloy, it's going to be light. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: It's going to be lighter, because Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Of Cornelius Baker: this Ralph Sims: course. Cornelius Baker: seems to be very heavy Robert Dorrance: Heavy. Cornelius Baker: f I mean, Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: for my daughter, for instance. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Not sure if uh she can use it. Robert Dorrance: But sides uh, the Cornelius Baker: So, Robert Dorrance: sides should be okay. Yeah Cornelius Baker: should be okay. Robert Dorrance: mm. Cornelius Baker: Up to three for that, Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Cornelius Baker: because I'm haven't seen the weight so Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: I Robert Dorrance: Oh. Cornelius Baker: must Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: not uh Colour and shape. Albert Garduno: Uh-oh. Cornelius Baker: Well, so colour, it seems that we have the several colours for the L_C_D_. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: But um, it's not very clear what is the colour of the sh the sh the case. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: The case is silver Cornelius Baker: It's a Robert Dorrance: titanium, Albert Garduno: Yeah, it's. Robert Dorrance: no? Cornelius Baker: it's going to be titanium. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Okay, okay. That's nice. Albert Garduno: Let's imagine. Cornelius Baker: I think it's good. Okay. Albert Garduno: And what about the strawberries on the top? I'm not convince. Cornelius Baker: Yahoo. Albert Garduno: But maybe I'm not trendy. But, uh Cornelius Baker: Well Robert Dorrance: Oh. Cornelius Baker: y you know, it's this uh fruit and vegetable year. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Albert Garduno: Yeah, Robert Dorrance: yeah. Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: but uh uh they're not useful. I Robert Dorrance: So Albert Garduno: I Robert Dorrance: maybe, I Albert Garduno: mean Robert Dorrance: think Albert Garduno: it that's Cornelius Baker: Uh, I think Albert Garduno: uh Cornelius Baker: usefulness is m as as I rem um just have to remind you Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: that Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: usefulness is much less important than fanciness. Albert Garduno: Yep. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: Whether Robert Dorrance: well Cornelius Baker: it's fancy or not now, it Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Um Albert Garduno: Hmm. Cornelius Baker: we have to decide. But this Albert Garduno: I Cornelius Baker: If it's Albert Garduno: would have m uh i found more fancy that the fruits are useful. Cornelius Baker: Uh-huh. So, that they will that maybe the fruit may be here instead. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, well then it's bit difficult to use. Not like this d We're just giving the fruit for more fanciness and Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: more Albert Garduno: But Robert Dorrance: attraction, Albert Garduno: the n Robert Dorrance: too. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: So, maybe think we can have rubber or some sponges, stuff for strawberries and different colours. Albert Garduno: Mm. Robert Dorrance: So Cornelius Baker: So, it seems Robert Dorrance: it's Cornelius Baker: we are not so clear on the shape Albert Garduno: No, Cornelius Baker: uh Robert Dorrance: These Albert Garduno: I'm Robert Dorrance: buttons Albert Garduno: not sure uh why uh if it was like this Robert Dorrance: But Albert Garduno: I Robert Dorrance: it looks really Albert Garduno: It's Robert Dorrance: not Albert Garduno: n Robert Dorrance: really good. I mean, Albert Garduno: no, it's not Robert Dorrance: the f Albert Garduno: fancy any Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: more. Robert Dorrance: So these are kind of rubber things. Even if you lose one Albert Garduno: Okay. Robert Dorrance: you can just put whatever. Ralph Sims: And Robert Dorrance: Even we can provide many different colours Albert Garduno: Uh-huh. Robert Dorrance: or different Albert Garduno: And Robert Dorrance: fruits, Ralph Sims: Moreover, Albert Garduno: different Robert Dorrance: and Albert Garduno: routes. Ralph Sims: moreover it Albert Garduno: Okay, Ralph Sims: covers Albert Garduno: I see Ralph Sims: it covers Albert Garduno: what Ralph Sims: all the end goals. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Even if it is, you know, it's very rounded, but still you got some rubber fruit here, and Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: it's completely uh completely secure to leave it uh with children Albert Garduno: Okay, Ralph Sims: and Albert Garduno: so Ralph Sims: that. Albert Garduno: you Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: you you feel like it's something uh a Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: protection for the Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: remote control. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, we've yeah we have sensors here and so here and here, so Albert Garduno: Also. Robert Dorrance: we just Yeah, so even if you don't put, it works. But this is really Albert Garduno: Okay. Robert Dorrance: fancy. Cornelius Baker: I suggested three. Albert Garduno: Okay. Cornelius Baker: Because uh, everybody s doesn't seem to be convince, although Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: it's quite You Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: have Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: good arguments. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: But Albert Garduno: Okay. Cornelius Baker: And uh the last one is adaptive. This is not r maybe not as important as the other one, Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: but uh can we adapt it to each each personal use? Ralph Sims: Sure, sure, just look at it. Cornelius Baker: Great. Ralph Sims: It's full adaptable. Cornelius Baker: Fully Albert Garduno: Wow, Cornelius Baker: adaptable. Ralph Sims: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: That's Albert Garduno: that's Ralph Sims: you Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Ralph Sims: can Albert Garduno: a Ralph Sims: fit it into Cornelius Baker: So you can Ralph Sims: your Cornelius Baker: fit Ralph Sims: palm, Cornelius Baker: into Ralph Sims: you Cornelius Baker: your Ralph Sims: know. Cornelius Baker: palm, okay. Albert Garduno: Yea Cornelius Baker: That Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: What Robert Dorrance: You Cornelius Baker: else Robert Dorrance: can Cornelius Baker: can we need? You Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Do you think you are gonna be able to do that with ti titanium as Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: well? Albert Garduno: it's fudge titanium. Cornelius Baker: It's Albert Garduno: You Cornelius Baker: fudge, Albert Garduno: know. Cornelius Baker: yeah, yeah. Albert Garduno: Right, Ralph Sims: Mm, Albert Garduno: yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, fruit Albert Garduno: And Cornelius Baker: titanium, Albert Garduno: uh Cornelius Baker: yeah. Well, I if if this is if you are ready to do that, then I think it deserves Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: a one. Albert Garduno: Okay. Let's go for one. Cornelius Baker: Okay. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Now we have to do the average. Robert Dorrance: Three, three, six, eight, Cornelius Baker: Who is good in Robert Dorrance: eleven. Cornelius Baker: math? Ralph Sims: It's two point one seven. Cornelius Baker: Okay. Two point one seven. That's nice. Two point one seven out of seven. Robert Dorrance: Hmm. Cornelius Baker: I think we have a good Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: good thing. Well, that's all I had to say about the evaluation. So Albert Garduno: So it's a good evaluation. Cornelius Baker: It seems to be good, yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah mm. Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: We have uh Robert Dorrance: Yeah, two one one seven, Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: we have. So Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Albert Garduno: Okay. So now, it has to fulfil the financial Robert Dorrance: Financi Albert Garduno: criterium? Cornelius Baker: Ah-ha. Albert Garduno: So, I have an Here. Um. Robert Dorrance: Energy. Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: Uh, Cornelius Baker: so Robert Dorrance: we use Cornelius Baker: how many batteries Robert Dorrance: bat Cornelius Baker: do we need? Robert Dorrance: One battery. Cornelius Baker: One battery? Robert Dorrance: Yep. Albert Garduno: Okay, so Cornelius Baker: Good. Albert Garduno: two. Cornelius Baker: Why two? Robert Dorrance: Oh, we just need one, I guess. Cornelius Baker: Say no. No, ne never install. Albert Garduno: Uh-huh. Cornelius Baker: Two batteries or one? Albert Garduno: Oh. Robert Dorrance: No, number is one. We need only one Cornelius Baker: Only Robert Dorrance: battery. Cornelius Baker: one. Albert Garduno: Yeah yeah, but the price is two. Cornelius Baker: No, no. Albert Garduno: Oh, number. Cornelius Baker: But Ralph Sims: No, uh Cornelius Baker: no, no. Albert Garduno: Sorry Ralph Sims: you Robert Dorrance: Number, Cornelius Baker: No, no Albert Garduno: sorry Ralph Sims: just Robert Dorrance: number. Cornelius Baker: way. Albert Garduno: sorry. I'm Ralph Sims: Number. Albert Garduno: sorry. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: You never use uh Excel? Albert Garduno: Oh. No, never. Cornelius Baker: Good. Ralph Sims: How What what's the limit? Albert Garduno: H Ralph Sims: Uh, Cornelius Baker: It's twelve Ralph Sims: it's Cornelius Baker: bucks. Ralph Sims: it's okay that I don't know, 'cause uh it's not my field. Twelve bucks. Cornelius Baker: Twelve bucks. Ralph Sims: Okay, Cornelius Baker: Twelve Ralph Sims: now Cornelius Baker: and a half, Ralph Sims: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: I think. Robert Dorrance: So Ralph Sims: Check Robert Dorrance: we Ralph Sims: that Cornelius Baker: Okay. Ralph Sims: number also. Cornelius Baker: Okay, electronics. Robert Dorrance: We have Cornelius Baker: So Robert Dorrance: sample chip. Uh, like Cornelius Baker: It's a simple Robert Dorrance: simple Cornelius Baker: chip? Robert Dorrance: chip, yeah. Cornelius Baker: Simple Robert Dorrance: So, Cornelius Baker: chip, okay. Robert Dorrance: yeah. Cornelius Baker: One. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Four buttons at Cornelius Baker: Okay. Robert Dorrance: least. Albert Garduno: Okay. Robert Dorrance: And then we have Albert Garduno: And Robert Dorrance: the Albert Garduno: for Robert Dorrance: t Albert Garduno: the Robert Dorrance: sample speaker sensor for speech recognition. Albert Garduno: One also. Cornelius Baker: One Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: or Robert Dorrance: one Cornelius Baker: two? Robert Dorrance: to Cornelius Baker: One? Robert Dorrance: one. Yeah, one. Cornelius Baker: Okay. So the case, which one uh is it in the end? Robert Dorrance: Yeah, I think we will go for a single curve, no? Cornelius Baker: Let's do a single curve. Robert Dorrance: Oh, is Ralph Sims: It's it's flat. Cornelius Baker: It's flat, Robert Dorrance: Oh. Cornelius Baker: and curved. Robert Dorrance: Oh, Albert Garduno: I Ralph Sims: It's Albert Garduno: thought Ralph Sims: flat. Robert Dorrance: okay. Albert Garduno: you can curve somebody. Ralph Sims: But it Cornelius Baker: It's Ralph Sims: is flat, you Cornelius Baker: curvable. Ralph Sims: Look. It's curvable, but it's not curved. Cornelius Baker: Maybe there is a supplement for that, no? Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: It's only curve? Okay, Albert Garduno: Oh Cornelius Baker: let's Albert Garduno: see, I Cornelius Baker: go. Albert Garduno: I think that Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: the the price is this one. Cornelius Baker: This Okay, you Albert Garduno: Yeah, yeah. Don't chip on Cornelius Baker: d We tried, Albert Garduno: Cornelius Baker. Cornelius Baker: we tried. Robert Dorrance: Oh. Ralph Sims: Oh, okay. Cornelius Baker: So, what Robert Dorrance: Titanium. Cornelius Baker: is it? T titanium? Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: Mm. Cornelius Baker: Mm, that's expensive. Mm-hmm. Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Ralph Sims: Mm. Albert Garduno: Yeah. But Cornelius Baker: Okay. Albert Garduno: she wanted u the Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Albert Garduno: fudge Robert Dorrance: well Albert Garduno: titanium. I think it's five, but you don't say. Cornelius Baker: Let's stick to s titan. Special colour? No Ralph Sims: Well, Cornelius Baker: because Ralph Sims: n Robert Dorrance: No, only Ralph Sims: Why Cornelius Baker: uh Robert Dorrance: one, Ralph Sims: three? Robert Dorrance: no? Albert Garduno: Mm. Ralph Sims: Why three? Albert Garduno: Oh, sorry. Again, Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Um Albert Garduno: I'm See it. Special Robert Dorrance: Interface. Albert Garduno: colour, Cornelius Baker: Oh. Albert Garduno: or it's only on the. Robert Dorrance: Yes, in L_C_D_ display. Ok Yeah, an Albert Garduno: So Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: I put it here. Robert Dorrance: Push-button. Cornelius Baker: So the L_C_D_ Albert Garduno: How Robert Dorrance: Scro Albert Garduno: many push-button? Three or Robert Dorrance: Uh, Albert Garduno: two? Robert Dorrance: two. Cornelius Baker: Two. Albert Garduno: Is there The scroll-wheel, okay. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. It's going to Robert Dorrance: One Cornelius Baker: be expensive. Robert Dorrance: scroll wheel. One L_C_D_ displayed. Albert Garduno: Okay. Um That's Cornelius Baker: That's all? No. Albert Garduno: that's Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: not We choose this one, and not this one. Cornelius Baker: Oh, I think, no it's Uh, is it Robert Dorrance: Yeah, it's Cornelius Baker: a Robert Dorrance: cheaper. Cornelius Baker: scroll wheel and pe push button, th this Albert Garduno: Or Cornelius Baker: centre Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: only Cornelius Baker: one? Albert Garduno: a scroll-wheel. Cornelius Baker: Or only Robert Dorrance: Only scroll wheel. Cornelius Baker: only scroll wheel, Robert Dorrance: Yeah mm. Cornelius Baker: okay. Robert Dorrance: So Cornelius Baker: You are trying Albert Garduno: You try Cornelius Baker: to Albert Garduno: to Cornelius Baker: make Albert Garduno: s No, Cornelius Baker: make Albert Garduno: no, Cornelius Baker: up Albert Garduno: no. Robert Dorrance: It's already Albert Garduno: Because Cornelius Baker: make us up. Albert Garduno: how do you do to y select? Cornelius Baker: No, but you select Robert Dorrance: Ah. Cornelius Baker: with the two d the other two buttons, Robert Dorrance: Y Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: no? Albert Garduno: I mean Robert Dorrance: ye Albert Garduno: you you Cornelius Baker: That's true. Albert Garduno: go on the location with your scroll Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: wheel and then Robert Dorrance: Then Albert Garduno: you Robert Dorrance: it automatically Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: we can just do like you feel, it goes. Albert Garduno: Stay Robert Dorrance: And it Cornelius Baker: It Robert Dorrance: will Albert Garduno: longer. Cornelius Baker: should Robert Dorrance: activate Cornelius Baker: stay. Albert Garduno: Okay. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Um, Albert Garduno: Oops. Robert Dorrance: plus, yeah, it's price is really Albert Garduno: Okay, okay. Um Robert Dorrance: Special colours, yeah. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: For Robert Dorrance: Okay. Ralph Sims: buttons. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Ralph Sims: No, Robert Dorrance: buttons and Ralph Sims: buttons Robert Dorrance: strawberries. Ralph Sims: just normal. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Special form. Albert Garduno: You you have all of these, no? Cornelius Baker: She's very hard on this. Special Albert Garduno: Mm maybe Cornelius Baker: colour? Albert Garduno: n not this one but Cornelius Baker: Yeah. No. Special material? Robert Dorrance: Uh, we have Ralph Sims: That's for Robert Dorrance: titan Ralph Sims: buttons. But buttons are Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Ralph Sims: standard. Cornelius Baker: buttons are the standard buttons. Yeah. It's only buttons, these. Albert Garduno: Yeah, so Cornelius Baker: Nothing special. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Okay. So we are at seventeen dot eight. Albert Garduno: Not special colours an interest in? Cornelius Baker: No, the colour is in the L_C_D_. Albert Garduno: And buttons are not colourised? They Cornelius Baker: I Albert Garduno: are Robert Dorrance: Mm, Cornelius Baker: no. Robert Dorrance: hmm, Albert Garduno: m Robert Dorrance: I think uh because you can just go for Cornelius Baker: We can Robert Dorrance: a Cornelius Baker: just Robert Dorrance: good Cornelius Baker: use Robert Dorrance: colours. Cornelius Baker: this red. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: It's Robert Dorrance: and uh Albert Garduno: Boo-hoo. It's already too expensive. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Apparently. Cornelius Baker: So what is Are we supposed to cut things Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: out now? Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: Uh, until we get twelve Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: fifty. Albert Garduno: Mm. Robert Dorrance: Oh. Albert Garduno: So think of what we can cut uh here. Cornelius Baker: Well, if I look at what is the most expensive things, uh it's the L_C_D_ Robert Dorrance: Sample Cornelius Baker: and the speaker. Robert Dorrance: speaker. Yeah. Albert Garduno: Apparently, we have to choose one or the other. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Well, as you may know there's some research done in the field of producing energy from mechanical eng, I mean, producing electricity from mechanical energy. So, the point is that when you take device and push the button, you produce enough energy Albert Garduno: But you don't Ralph Sims: to Albert Garduno: need Ralph Sims: make Albert Garduno: a battery? Ralph Sims: electricity. Yeah, that Albert Garduno: Mm. Ralph Sims: you don't need a battery. Cornelius Baker: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: So, it's something like hand dynamo robot. A real high-tech version of it. Cornelius Baker: So Albert Garduno: But Cornelius Baker: that would Albert Garduno: um it's like the hand dynamo, no? Robert Dorrance: Maybe the jog wheel can be like kind Cornelius Baker: So, Robert Dorrance: of Cornelius Baker: but if Robert Dorrance: hand Cornelius Baker: we select the hand dynamo it's okay, we only We Robert Dorrance: is Cornelius Baker: we win one. Ralph Sims: Okay, Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: That's already Ralph Sims: but l Cornelius Baker: that. Albert Garduno: Uh it's a Cornelius Baker: Okay, Albert Garduno: it's a beginning. Cornelius Baker: let's Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: do Ralph Sims: Why Cornelius Baker: that. Ralph Sims: not. Albert Garduno: Okay. Ralph Sims: Let's do that. Albert Garduno: So One Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Albert Garduno: here Robert Dorrance: just Albert Garduno: and Robert Dorrance: remo Albert Garduno: here. 'Kay. Ralph Sims: And Robert Dorrance: S Ralph Sims: I propose to So uh, about chips. Advanced chip on print, right? Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Ralph Sims: So, put minus one there, please. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: I'm Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: not sure if this is legal. Ralph Sims: Why not? Albert Garduno: That's right. Robert Dorrance: Uh, no. Ralph Sims: And? Cornelius Baker: And? Albert Garduno: M maybe minus uh three, Cornelius Baker: No. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: no? Cornelius Baker: Okay, Ralph Sims: So, Robert Dorrance: No, no. It's Ralph Sims: was Cornelius Baker: let's Robert Dorrance: not Cornelius Baker: see. Ralph Sims: there result? Let's have a look. Robert Dorrance: It's not changing, Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: no? It Cornelius Baker: Yeah, yeah, Ralph Sims: Why? Robert Dorrance: you don't Cornelius Baker: yeah, if Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: Click somewhere, you'll see features. Ralph Sims: Oops. Cornelius Baker: Yes, it does. Maybe put minus two, so it looks uh Albert Garduno: So Cornelius Baker: more reasonable. Ralph Sims: Yeah. Why not. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, anyway No, Albert Garduno: Oh, Cornelius Baker: minus Ralph Sims: Minus. Albert Garduno: sorry. Cornelius Baker: two. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: Nobody will know. Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: It's not recorded, is it? Ralph Sims: Good. Cornelius Baker: Okay, we're on time. Good. Albert Garduno: Okay. Robert Dorrance: So now on, we can increase our Still you have two more. Albert Garduno: Oh, Robert Dorrance: Maybe Albert Garduno: we can Robert Dorrance: we can Albert Garduno: put Robert Dorrance: use Albert Garduno: uh Robert Dorrance: it for Albert Garduno: a Robert Dorrance: our Albert Garduno: hand Robert Dorrance: party. Albert Garduno: dynamo and a battery if Ralph Sims: And Albert Garduno: you want. Ralph Sims: a battery Albert Garduno: Oh. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: and a battery, yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, yeah. Albert Garduno: Both its it's cool. Cornelius Baker: No, now we are exp exceeding Ralph Sims: Now Cornelius Baker: I Ralph Sims: it's Cornelius Baker: think. Ralph Sims: fancy, let's Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: It Albert Garduno: Mm. Ralph Sims: add Robert Dorrance: that Ralph Sims: one instead of Cornelius Baker: Is Ralph Sims: two. Cornelius Baker: it? Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: I think we're exceeding now. We have Robert Dorrance: No, but Albert Garduno: yeah Cornelius Baker: to remove Albert Garduno: y Robert Dorrance: point Cornelius Baker: the Robert Dorrance: five point three. Cornelius Baker: Uh, Robert Dorrance: Okay. Cornelius Baker: it's better. I think they are counting uh Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: Is Albert Garduno: Mm. It's Cornelius Baker: We Robert Dorrance: really Cornelius Baker: would Albert Garduno: maximum Robert Dorrance: strict? Cornelius Baker: prefer, Albert Garduno: and Cornelius Baker: yeah. Albert Garduno: don't Cornelius Baker: Maximum Robert Dorrance: Oh. Albert Garduno: have to Cornelius Baker: is Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: maximum. Albert Garduno: yeah. Cornelius Baker: So, Albert Garduno: Uh Cornelius Baker: remove Robert Dorrance: Oh yeah. Cornelius Baker: one of them. Yeah. Okay. Okay, we're uh Albert Garduno: Uh, Cornelius Baker: on Albert Garduno: mm-mm. Cornelius Baker: target. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Mm. Okay. Mm. So target reached. Cornelius Baker: I'm just curious to see this uh Robert Dorrance: Ho Cornelius Baker: my address chip on print. Albert Garduno: It's um English uh Cornelius Baker: Trick. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Uh, I would say it's the Russian trick, but Anyway Albert Garduno: Yeah, but uh is uh English. So Cornelius Baker: No, they may Albert Garduno: Mm. Robert Dorrance: Oh. Ralph Sims: Well, Cornelius Baker: have some Robert Dorrance: Uh Ralph Sims: I Cornelius Baker: their Ralph Sims: don't know. Cornelius Baker: origins, Ralph Sims: I don't know. Cornelius Baker: strange origins Ralph Sims: I am not sure who was programming this calculator, you know. B_ somewhere instead of a number. Albert Garduno: Mm, let's try. Cornelius Baker: No, no, no. Let's finish this meeting Albert Garduno: Okay. Cornelius Baker: instead. Robert Dorrance: And we can discuss Albert Garduno: I save Robert Dorrance: all these things Albert Garduno: it Robert Dorrance: in our Albert Garduno: uh Robert Dorrance: party. Cornelius Baker: What else? Albert Garduno: Okay, so next mm Cornelius Baker: No. This Albert Garduno: No, that's Cornelius Baker: is Albert Garduno: yours. Cornelius Baker: right. Albert Garduno: Sorry. Cornelius Baker: Okay, so Albert Garduno: 'Kay. Cornelius Baker: finance, that's done. Are the cost under twelve? Robert Dorrance: Mm Cornelius Baker: Yes. Robert Dorrance: yeah, very much. Cornelius Baker: Project evaluation, good. Albert Garduno: Okay. So Ralph Sims: Next Albert Garduno: now Ralph Sims: slide. Cornelius Baker: Project process. Albert Garduno: We have to make um Cornelius Baker: Safe uh asse uh Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: safe assessment. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Mm. See mm how Are we a good team? Mm. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: I think we've listened to everybody. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: Everybody could say what they thought. Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: And uh Albert Garduno: Is there enough room for creativity? Ralph Sims: Yeah, yeah. Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Albert Garduno: Mm. And you. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: yeah. Ralph Sims: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: When we see the results, Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: there is Robert Dorrance: it's Cornelius Baker: no Robert Dorrance: really Cornelius Baker: doubt Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: there Albert Garduno: Oh. Okay. Well, project evaluation. Cornelius Baker: Maybe a lack of leadership? Ralph Sims: M maybe not, Cornelius Baker: Team-work, Ralph Sims: huh? Cornelius Baker: very Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: strong, I Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: would say. Robert Dorrance: our team-work Cornelius Baker: Team-work, Robert Dorrance: is really Cornelius Baker: no Robert Dorrance: strong. Cornelius Baker: problem. Means. Whiteboard, digital pens. Robert Dorrance: Oh, we still, I guess. Ralph Sims: What was the Oh yeah, what was good? Everything. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Ralph Sims: What Cornelius Baker: I Ralph Sims: was Cornelius Baker: think Ralph Sims: bad? Cornelius Baker: white-board is useful. Digital pens, useful. Robert Dorrance: Hmm. Cornelius Baker: New ideas found? Albert Garduno: So, Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Albert Garduno: you say, is there sheep? Luck. Okay. So luck, but good. Which Cornelius Baker: But uh Albert Garduno: imply good uh team performance. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, Ralph Sims: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: but Ralph Sims: A Cornelius Baker: uh then I Ralph Sims: good Cornelius Baker: I mus Ralph Sims: leader, you know, a good leader is somewhere in the shade and Cornelius Baker: That's true. And there's uh one Robert Dorrance: Don't Cornelius Baker: very Robert Dorrance: really. Cornelius Baker: important point. We're on time. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Cornelius Baker: Meetings Robert Dorrance: And we also Cornelius Baker: finish when they have to or even before. Robert Dorrance: Mm. We made Cornelius Baker: The for Robert Dorrance: Mm. Cornelius Baker: meeting it's uh one of the most important thing. Ralph Sims: Of course. Uh Albert Garduno: Okay. Mm. Ralph Sims: Not to waste time, that's important. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Yeah, we have other uh Robert Dorrance: Hmm. Ralph Sims: We need time Cornelius Baker: remote Ralph Sims: f Cornelius Baker: controls to create. Albert Garduno: Okay. Robert Dorrance: Ah, we got new idea, speech recognition, location finding. Albert Garduno: A lot Ralph Sims: New Albert Garduno: of Ralph Sims: materials. Albert Garduno: uh Cornelius Baker: Mm. Robert Dorrance: New materials, new s uh this fancy strawberry design. Albert Garduno: Yeah, Cornelius Baker: Mm, yeah. Albert Garduno: uh new ways of doing financial Cornelius Baker: Hey, just wondering if my uh Robert Dorrance: And new tricks. Cornelius Baker: what about the the pink the pinkness of that uh. Albert Garduno: Mm. Mm. They're working Cornelius Baker: They Albert Garduno: on um Cornelius Baker: are working Albert Garduno: pink Cornelius Baker: on Albert Garduno: titanium. Cornelius Baker: a Okay, good. Robert Dorrance: Ah, very. Cornelius Baker: I think Ralph Sims: Budget. Cornelius Baker: we are great. There's Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: no no other words for that. We Ralph Sims: Alright. Cornelius Baker: are probably the best. Albert Garduno: Mm Cornelius Baker: Real Albert Garduno: yeah. Cornelius Baker: Reaction Albert Garduno: Yeah, we're really Cornelius Baker: is uh Yeah. Albert Garduno: nice. Cornelius Baker: Yeah. Albert Garduno: Yeah. Mm. Okay. Cornelius Baker: Finished? Albert Garduno: I think it's Cornelius Baker: Ah, celebration. Are the costs within the budget? Of Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: course they Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: are. Yeah. Albert Garduno: Uh How Ralph Sims: Okay. Cornelius Baker: Is the project evaluated? Yes, Robert Dorrance: Yeah, Ralph Sims: Yeah, Albert Garduno: Yeah. Robert Dorrance: yeah, Ralph Sims: it Cornelius Baker: it is. Ralph Sims: is. Robert Dorrance: it's We got two Albert Garduno: Mm. Robert Dorrance: Good Ralph Sims: So, Robert Dorrance: score. Ralph Sims: we see, we can even forecast. they propose us like celebration, everything, we could forecast it, right? Cornelius Baker: To whom? To the whole our company? Albert Garduno: I'm the one, proposing the celebration. Of Ralph Sims: You? Albert Garduno: course, you Ralph Sims: It Albert Garduno: know Ralph Sims: was Albert Garduno: I'm Ralph Sims: you. Albert Garduno: the program manager. Ralph Sims: Okay. Robert Dorrance: Oh, okay. Cornelius Baker: So, let's celebrate. Uh Albert Garduno: Mm-hmm. Robert Dorrance: So where we will go now? Albert Garduno: Ah Robert Dorrance: Uh, Albert Garduno: um, I Cornelius Baker: I Albert Garduno: think Cornelius Baker: think Robert Dorrance: ye Will Cornelius Baker: the Albert Garduno: it's Cornelius Baker: meeting Robert Dorrance: go Albert Garduno: finish. Robert Dorrance: to Italian restaurant, Cornelius Baker: The Robert Dorrance: or Cornelius Baker: meeting is over Albert Garduno: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: at least. Albert Garduno: Mm. Cornelius Baker: So, Robert Dorrance: Ah, Cornelius Baker: we have Robert Dorrance: okay. Cornelius Baker: to Robert Dorrance: We can decide. Cornelius Baker: go out. Albert Garduno: Mm-mm. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Ralph Sims: Okay. Albert Garduno: And we go to the party. Robert Dorrance: Yeah. Cornelius Baker: Yeah, yeah, Robert Dorrance: Thank you. Cornelius Baker: yeah. Albert Garduno: thank you to you. Mm.	This last meeting started with the presentation of a remote control prototype. It has on-off and volume buttons, an LCD screen (it can be active or switched off) in various colours, which largely replaces the use of push buttons, and a jog-wheel for navigation and option selection in the menus presented on the LCD. It also includes speech recognition as an alternative interface, which also serves as mechanism for locating the device. It was designed to be powered by a single battery. The casing will be made of titanium with rubber strawberries following the fruit and veg fashion. The prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad) in terms of fancifulness, technology, robustness, usefulness, size, colour and shape and customizability: the average mark was 2.17; the team were satisfied with their prototype, although after costs were calculated it proved very expensive. Finally, the team evaluated the whole process: they deemed themselves a good team, they found there was plenty of room for creativity and they liked Albert Garduno's leadership.	3	amisum	train
Gary Carmona: Hmm. Samuel Gill: Good morning everybody. Robert Gray: Good morning. Benton Knight: Good morning. Gary Carmona: Good morning. Samuel Gill: So we are asked to to make uh uh a new remote control for television. And the characteristics of this new remote control should be original and trendy and of course user user friendly. So people can can use it without any any problem. Samuel Gill: I don't know. Robert Gray: Well I, think we should set the the points to to drive the project and uh Gary Carmona: B did you send us an email about this? Samuel Gill: Uh, not yet, but Gary Carmona: Yeah, Samuel Gill: if you Gary Carmona: we Samuel Gill: want Gary Carmona: we received an email about this uh d designs. Samuel Gill: Do you want do you want Benton Knight to send you a mail? Gary Carmona: Ah it's Samuel Gill: Or Gary Carmona: Okay. Benton Knight: Or you can put it in the shared folder. Gary Carmona: Yeah, you see the email? You email. The v very no, no the Benton Knight: No, I didn't get it. Gary Carmona: first one. It's inside. Samuel Gill: Uh Benton Knight: This one. Gary Carmona: No, Benton Knight: No. Gary Carmona: no. The third one. Oh, you didn't get anything. Benton Knight: No, Gary Carmona: It's strange. Mm. got an email about the dis about the discussion Yeah. Samuel Gill: You get email, Gary Carmona: I dunno from who. Robert Gray: Yeah, from the account manager. Gary Carmona: From the account manager. You have received the same email, right? Robert Gray: Yeah. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: I think it's for your guys to how to design it all the aspects so you need Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: that information. Robert Gray: Yeah, I think so. Gary Carmona: Yeah, so each of us has a role to do. Benton Knight: Yeah Samuel Gill: S Benton Knight: I think Gary Carmona: In each Benton Knight: assign your uh roles. Gary Carmona: We already have Samuel Gill: each Gary Carmona: our role. Samuel Gill: for each Benton Knight: For Samuel Gill: one. Benton Knight: each person, yeah. Gary Carmona: 'Kay, we can Samuel Gill: So there are so we Gary Carmona: So Samuel Gill: have Gary Carmona: there Samuel Gill: three Gary Carmona: are three kinds of designs, Samuel Gill: f yeah. Gary Carmona: that's Samuel Gill: We have Gary Carmona: all. Samuel Gill: functional design, conceptual design, and Gary Carmona: Okay, Samuel Gill: detail design. Gary Carmona: alright. Samuel Gill: So, who will be the the responsible for the functional design? Any any volunteer? Robert Gray: I think our uh responsibilities will be assigned when we in our mail we received Gary Carmona: Yeah, Robert Gray: from the account manager. Gary Carmona: yeah. Robert Gray: Uh Gary Carmona: I'm doing the interface. Samuel Gill: You are doing th. Robert Gray: No, I'm doing the interface. Gary Carmona: Are you using the you are doing Robert Gray: Yeah Gary Carmona: the in Robert Gray: I I'm I'm Well, maybe we have okay so I industrial design. Gary Carmona: Ah Robert Gray: but it's alright. Gary Carmona: Okay. Samuel Gill: Okay, I'll for industrial design. Robert Gray: Yeah. Samuel Gill: Okay. And and you Norman? Gary Carmona: Mm? Um working on i. Robert Gray: User. Gary Carmona: User interface. Samuel Gill: And Samuel Gill: And Benton Knight: Uh, I'm into marketing. Samuel Gill: doing the marketing. Benton Knight: yeah nothing much in the project. Samuel Gill: Nothing related here to the Benton Knight: Marketing in this design. A design Gary Carmona: Yes. Benton Knight: is basically for industrial design and the user interface. Gary Carmona: You see the second mail? Yeah, it's inside. Go down. Appendix. Benton Knight: this is. Gary Carmona: See there's a role for everybody. Benton Knight: Yeah, that's right, first. Gary Carmona: Even for the marketing. Benton Knight: us user define. Samuel Gill: Next. Gary Carmona: But look at your role, your marketing role. Benton Knight: There's a trend watching. Samuel Gill: I don't Gary Carmona: Yeah, Samuel Gill: know. Gary Carmona: that's your role. Samuel Gill: I. Robert Gray: Well, I think we can have a little discussion about what has to be done and what are your ideas Samuel Gill: About the Robert Gray: about Samuel Gill: design Robert Gray: the Samuel Gill: or Maybe we'll discuss this later, no? Robert Gray: Well, w we want to have a new re remote control for for T_V_ distribution I guess. Samuel Gill: Mm-hmm. Robert Gray: So we have to plan how how it would Benton Knight: Yeah. Robert Gray: be Gary Carmona: Mm. Robert Gray: developed and uh how we can make it work. Gary Carmona: Yes. Benton Knight: I mean working remotes we already have. This will be something different from the other remotes remote controls. Robert Gray: Yeah, Samuel Gill: What Robert Gray: I Samuel Gill: we Robert Gray: dunno I Samuel Gill: we have to keep in mind the these characteristics. And of course it should not be very costly. Benton Knight: Yeah, that's right. Samuel Gill: So Robert Gray: Yeah. Gary Carmona: Mm-hmm. Robert Gray: Well I I think that Norman and I would think about um the technical points and um we should discuss it in the next meeting, or Gary Carmona: Need to collect information. Robert Gray: Yeah. Samuel Gill: About the about what? Gary Carmona: Um. I I'm part of design, perhaps. Uh, what is most important in a in a remote control? What is the most important function aspect? Uh. Samuel Gill: You mean the external or Robert Gray: Well, you have to make it work. That's Samuel Gill: Yeah of g of Gary Carmona: That's Samuel Gill: course. Gary Carmona: alright. Robert Gray: the that's the big Gary Carmona: Yeah, Robert Gray: thing. Gary Carmona: it should be easy to work with. Robert Gray: Yeah. Samuel Gill: Yeah. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: We can think about an interface with uh well Gary Carmona: Uh. We maybe you can have a speech uh recognition interface. You just tell the television I want which channel. Or Samuel Gill: You won't Gary Carmona: or you can say for example, um I want uh to list all the programme tonight. Y you know, instead of uh remote control it's doing the some searching for you, so you don't have to look for the channel you want. Just say maybe I just want to press I wanna have a button for all the movies tonight. Or a button for all the magazines, all the information documentary tonight. And then you list a few, and I will choose from the list. So instead of pressing the channel number, I am choosing the programmes directly. Robert Gray: Yeah, Gary Carmona: Yeah, Robert Gray: yeah. Gary Carmona: that's one way of uh making it useful. Samuel Gill: I I think if we include a lot of technology on the remote Gary Carmona: No, Samuel Gill: control Gary Carmona: because Samuel Gill: it will be very costly. Gary Carmona: no, it's not very Samuel Gill: S Gary Carmona: a lot. Th this information exists. For example you can get um Samuel Gill: Like s uh you you you say we can use speech. Gary Carmona: You can use uh well for example anything. The the idea of using speech to reduce the button, but uh and it's Robert Gray: I Gary Carmona: more natural. Robert Gray: I think if you want Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: t to choose uh from a list Benton Knight: I'm a Robert Gray: of programme Benton Knight: okay. Robert Gray: or or Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: something like that Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: you you may have to to use uh w uh I dunno Benton Knight: I mean the main uh function of remote control is to have something in the hand and Samuel Gill: In the Benton Knight: we Samuel Gill: hand. Benton Knight: should be very careful about the size of the remote control. Samuel Gill: Yeah. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: Yeah. Benton Knight: If we are going to add a speech interface, Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: I'm not sure with trendy slim size of the remote control Gary Carmona: Yes, Benton Knight: it would be Gary Carmona: possible. Benton Knight: able to put a speech recog if you want to put a speech recognition system f interface for that I think the T_V_ itself could have it. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: Yeah. Gary Carmona: But Benton Knight: And I could talk to the T_V_ television itself. Samuel Gill: Except Benton Knight: I need Samuel Gill: if Benton Knight: not have Samuel Gill: if Benton Knight: an Samuel Gill: you are far from the T_V_. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: I mean we have Samuel Gill: This Benton Knight: some or something, Samuel Gill: is Gary Carmona: Yeah, Benton Knight: different technology Gary Carmona: yeah. Benton Knight: but Gary Carmona: But Samuel Gill: it's Gary Carmona: th the main idea I wanted to s I wanted to say is that um there should be a function, instead of choosing the ch T_V_ channel, there's a option you can choose, either T_V_ channels or or Robert Gray: On the content. Gary Carmona: pr or the or the contain Benton Knight: Mm-hmm, Gary Carmona: or the Benton Knight: yeah. Gary Carmona: contents of the programme. Robert Gray: Yeah, yeah Gary Carmona: So it's Robert Gray: it's Samuel Gill: Mm-hmm. Gary Carmona: more Robert Gray: it's Gary Carmona: powerful. Robert Gray: a good idea it's a good idea but Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: I I think that technically it would be um a little bit uh Gary Carmona: No. Robert Gray: uh more tricky to to achieve this than Gary Carmona: No, because Robert Gray: just Gary Carmona: you see Robert Gray: to Gary Carmona: now all the T_V_ programmes are available on the webs. They they are they are they are available in X_M_L_ format or whatever the format. We don't care. We just say that this are some content. We just want to retrieve the content and then classi sort them by the types of programmes. Some Robert Gray: Yeah Gary Carmona: of Robert Gray: yeah. Gary Carmona: the websites they already provide this service, so we can just use the service available. Download it uh to the to this remote control. And then there's Samuel Gill: Mm. Gary Carmona: there are only six buttons for six categories, or sev seven. The most there are only seven buttons. So I just choose the category one and you reuse the same button, for example to to choose among the the sorted list the programme you want, so you don't have to choose among hundred channels, if you have hundred channels, you just have six buttons, seven buttons. Samuel Gill: Yeah we should also optimise the the number of Robert Gray: Well Gary Carmona: Yeah, Robert Gray: I Samuel Gill: buttons. Robert Gray: I I I Gary Carmona: yeah. Robert Gray: think that j Samuel Gill: This is Robert Gray: just Samuel Gill: good Robert Gray: by Samuel Gill: idea. Robert Gray: using navigation buttons and the user interface on the screen Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: we are able to uh navigate uh through the Gary Carmona: Ah, yes. So. Robert Gray: Well channel programme or contents or Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: in an easy way, Gary Carmona: Yeah, so you don't Robert Gray: so Gary Carmona: have to display here, just display on the T_V_ screen, Robert Gray: Yeah Gary Carmona: right? Robert Gray: in Gary Carmona: Good Robert Gray: the dis Gary Carmona: idea. Robert Gray: display on the T_V_ screen and just Gary Carmona: Okay. Robert Gray: uh with the with your remote control would just navigate through the f Gary Carmona: I think I think that will be revol revolutionary. Because all the T_V_ uh the the remote control have all numbers, lots of buttons and then you dunno what to choose in the end. Robert Gray: Yeah, yeah. Gary Carmona: Yeah. Robert Gray: So Gary Carmona: Alright. Robert Gray: I think for for the technical points we have to to to check how to gather the data from programme or contents and all this Gary Carmona: Okay. Robert Gray: stuff Samuel Gill: So we have five minutes to Gary Carmona: Ah w w we have sometimes to use the white-board. Samuel Gill: Ah you can y you can you Gary Carmona: Five Samuel Gill: can Gary Carmona: minutes. Samuel Gill: use it if you Benton Knight: And Samuel Gill: so, Benton Knight: another interesting Samuel Gill: can we Benton Knight: idea for this would be to have an light adaptation system depending Gary Carmona: Okay. Benton Knight: upon the picture of Gary Carmona: Okay. Benton Knight: So, I mean, if you're watching a movie and suddenly there is a dark uh Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: some dark scene, the Gary Carmona: Yeah. Benton Knight: lights Samuel Gill: S Benton Knight: adapt themself. The lighting in the room changes. Gary Carmona: Yeah, but we are designing Samuel Gill: You it. Gary Carmona: just remote control. Benton Knight: I mean, we have a option in the remote control. If we want to have that option, you Gary Carmona: Okay. Benton Knight: press that button Robert Gray: Oh Benton Knight: in the remote. Robert Gray: right Gary Carmona: Okay, Robert Gray: so Gary Carmona: do you want to have a conceptual remote control there, or you just want to put the function Samuel Gill: Yeah. Gary Carmona: in? Samuel Gill: If if you you you can if you want you can Robert Gray: Please, Samuel Gill: use Robert Gray: Norman, draw Samuel Gill: th Robert Gray: uh Samuel Gill: the. Gary Carmona: Go on, draw something. Benton Knight: Oh, Gary Carmona: Mm. Benton Knight: I'm afraid you forgot to put your lapel. Gary Carmona: Where is it? Benton Knight: The lapel. Samuel Gill: Or before Gary Carmona: Ah, okay. Samuel Gill: the before the the design that says. Gary Carmona: Where where is it? Here. Benton Knight: Yeah, that one. Just plug Samuel Gill: Norman. Benton Knight: it. Yeah, that's Gary Carmona: Mm. Benton Knight: right. Samuel Gill: Be before before writing you can uh Gary Carmona: Mm. Samuel Gill: sit and that says what we what we said then after that you can Gary Carmona: Okay, alright. Samuel Gill: you can use the. Gary Carmona: So Samuel Gill: Yeah. Gary Carmona: so the most functional des mm the most important function is to ch choo buttons to choose the content. Right? Robert Gray: Okay. Gary Carmona: Uh, Samuel Gill: Okay. Gary Carmona: uh first one is to uh buttons i or it could be anything with Samuel Gill: Yeah. Gary Carmona: buttons. Uh to choose uh content s or channels. So we have both. The user can choose w which one they want, Robert Gray: Yeah, Gary Carmona: right? Robert Gray: by content or by channel, it's Gary Carmona: By Robert Gray: a good Gary Carmona: content Robert Gray: idea. Gary Carmona: or by channel. Choose by contents or by channels. So And then what did we say just now? Other than this. Robert Gray: And Samuel Gill: Mm. Robert Gray: uh we we have to find a way how to gather information about the contents. Gary Carmona: Okay, so technically how the problems that how to do it is to how to get the content. Robert Gray: Yeah. Gary Carmona: Challenge. Robert Gray: I think i it's not very difficult to to browse by channel but it's a little bit tricky to browse by contents so Gary Carmona: Okay. Content. Okay, so these we have to work it out. So this one of the problem. And uh Robert Gray: I think that's the the Gary Carmona: The main Robert Gray: things Gary Carmona: thing. Robert Gray: to do and uh to Gary Carmona: Okay. Robert Gray: uh Gary Carmona: Alright. Robert Gray: reflect about it and uh Gary Carmona: Alright, okay. So Robert Gray: discuss Gary Carmona: we are Robert Gray: it Gary Carmona: we'll Robert Gray: in the next meeting. Gary Carmona: discuss it we will get some information in the next meeting, so for now we get uh the funct this is the functional designer? That's the first aspect. Right. We will get information and then we'll come back in. Robert Gray: Okay. Thank you everybody. Samuel Gill: Okay. Gary Carmona: Yeah, we'll come. Samuel Gill: So maybe we'll meet in maybe five minutes? And Gary Carmona: Alright. Samuel Gill: we'll discuss the other Gary Carmona: Alright, okay. Samuel Gill: other aspects. Robert Gray: Okay. Gary Carmona: Thank you, Samuel Gill: Okay. Gary Carmona: mis Samuel Gill: Well thank you all.	Samuel Gill introduced the project to the group. The group set an agenda for the meeting and discussed the materials sent to them by the Account Manager. They discussed and explained their roles in the project. The group began a discussion about their initial ideas for the product. They discussed several usability features: adding speech recognition and an option to choose what to watch by channel or by content, reducing the number of buttons by using the television screen to display options, and adding a light adaptation system. All participants were instructed to gather more information for the next meeting, the functional design meeting.	3	amisum	train
Edward Farrell: Uh welcome back after lunch, hope uh you had a good lunch together. For uh this meeting the main agenda okay uh to discuss about the conceptual design meeting. Okay and the agenda will be the opening and uh that's uh the product manager or secretary that's Kirk Maurer and uh the presentations from the Christine and uh Agnes and from Mister Ed. And finally in this meeting we have to decide and we are to take a decision on the remote control concept and uh the functional design minutes, I think it's uh little bit uh low, but I I hope we can finish it up so I'll handle to the the functional team, to the Christine, okay, to discuss about uh the components concept. Daniel Dewitt: Okay. So uh, if you could open the presentation. I'm number two. Edward Farrell: You're number two. 'Kay Daniel Dewitt: Components design, there we go. So uh can we put it in slide show mode? Yeah. Edward Farrell: The next one. Daniel Dewitt: Right here, is that little that one, yes please. Thank you. I'll take the mouse. So uh we were looking he specifically at the components uh the following components, uh the case, the power supply, uh the means of communications with the television set. instance we talked sort of speech recognition, you have to have microphone well no you don't actually I haven't have to have microphone in the device, but um maybe you do have it a a way it has to it has to hear the speaker Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Daniel Dewitt: and um, so it could be in the television set, could be in the device, but somewhere you have to put the microphone, um and a w a way of making beeps or sounds so you can find it when it's gets lost. Um so the other w thing that we So. Our method for going about this is we've looked at uh the histo hi historical record, what's worked, what hasn't and then we also um we wanted to evaluate some new materials and we contacted manufacturing for their input because, course, we m might come up and choose the material that then manufacturing didn't have the technologies or capabilities to offer us, so uh this is the approach that we took during our um our research. So um for the case, um we told we were making a specifica specific assumption that it would be curved in design. Course, you know, I wanted it to be expandable and shrinkable, but um that uh doesn't seem to b be one of the choic non-option we can uh we can really seriously explore, so then we were thinking about um rubber, but um unfortunately that's been eliminated because of the heat uh factor and th um there might be some problems with the m uh how it's uh goes with the board. Uh and uh then th plastic also has this problem of melting and it's brittle it gets brittle after a while, so um we still had titanium and and wood available, but um unfortunately uh uh titanium's also been eliminated uh, the m people in manufacturing said that you couldn't make d curved cases out of titanium, although how Apple did it with th PowerBook I'm not su quite sure but uh nevertheless um they've eliminated all of our options except wood. So, Devin Merritt: At least environmentally Daniel Dewitt: this Devin Merritt: friendly. Daniel Dewitt: is our finding. And a as she said, it's an environmentally friendly uh material, so we're we're currently uh proposing, uh we'll get to all my personal preferences in just a second. So then there's this other matter of the chips and um well we could use a simple design on the board, but uh these simple chips, but that's only works for the bu you don't get very much um intelligence with this simple one. And um then there was the regular which I regret that I've forgotten exactly why I'm eliminating that one. Uh the other option was this advanced chip on print, and uh we liked th we we found that it it includes this infrared sender, which w 'member the beam was that was an important component of finding the right chip. And uh manufacturing has told us that they've um uh recently developed a uh a sensor and a speaker that would uh be integrated into this advanced chip on print, so uh we we uh now jumping right to our personal preferences um I I'd really think we should, you know, use some of uh some really exotic woods, like um, you know uh, well you guys come from tropical countries so you can kinda think of some trees and some nice woods. I think that people will might really want to design their own cases, you see, they could do sort of a this um three-dimensional design on the internet, and then they could submit their orders, kinda like you submit a custom car order, you know, and you can choose the colour and the size of the wheels and the colours of the leather and things like that, and then I uh think we should go with the solar cells as well as the um microphone and speaker on the advanced chip. So this is the findings of our research and my recommendations um for the new remote control w um would be to have um have it be made out of wood. Do you have any problems with that? Edward Farrell: Can you go back uh one slide? Daniel Dewitt: I'm not sure, how do I Oh, I know, let's see. Devin Merritt: Thank Daniel Dewitt: Let's go back Devin Merritt: you. Daniel Dewitt: up here. Devin Merritt: Yeah. Edward Farrell: Yes, uh question, uh, what's mean exactly, advanced chip on print? What's the meaning of that? Daniel Dewitt: I think it's um um a multiple uh chip design um and it's uh maybe printed on to the circuit board. Edward Farrell: Mm-hmm. Daniel Dewitt: Uh I could find out more about that Edward Farrell: Yeah, is Daniel Dewitt: uh Edward Farrell: it means Daniel Dewitt: before Edward Farrell: it's Daniel Dewitt: the Edward Farrell: on Daniel Dewitt: next Edward Farrell: the Daniel Dewitt: fi next meeting. Edward Farrell: yeah is it on a micro-proc micro-processor based or uh Daniel Dewitt: I don't know, but I'll find out more at our next Edward Farrell: Okay, Daniel Dewitt: meeting. Edward Farrell: tha that would be great, so if you find out from the technology background, okay, so that would be good. Daniel Dewitt: Sounds good. Devin Merritt: Why was the plastic eliminated as a possible material? Daniel Dewitt: Because um it gets brittle, cracks Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Daniel Dewitt: Um We want we expect these um uh these remote controls to be around for several hundred years. So. Good Devin Merritt: Whic Kirk Maurer: Wow, Daniel Dewitt: ex Good Devin Merritt: Which Daniel Dewitt: expression. Kirk Maurer: good expression. Well after us. Devin Merritt: Although I think I think with wood though you'd run into the same types of problems, wouldn't you, I mean it chips, it if you drop it, uh it's I'm not su Edward Farrell: So so you're not convinced about Kirk Maurer: Actually, I'm Edward Farrell: the Kirk Maurer: ready to Edward Farrell: the Kirk Maurer: sell Edward Farrell: wood, Kirk Maurer: it. Edward Farrell: yes. Daniel Dewitt: you're what? Kirk Maurer: I'm Devin Merritt: I think Kirk Maurer: ready to sell it. Devin Merritt: if you re if you use Daniel Dewitt: You Devin Merritt: really Daniel Dewitt: think? Devin Merritt: good quality wood then it might work Kirk Maurer: No Daniel Dewitt: And Kirk Maurer: y Devin Merritt: but Daniel Dewitt: you Devin Merritt: you can't Daniel Dewitt: could Kirk Maurer: no Devin Merritt: just use Daniel Dewitt: you could Kirk Maurer: no Daniel Dewitt: sell Kirk Maurer: no, Daniel Dewitt: oils Kirk Maurer: the o the Daniel Dewitt: with Kirk Maurer: only Daniel Dewitt: it, Kirk Maurer: w Daniel Dewitt: to Kirk Maurer: the Daniel Dewitt: take Kirk Maurer: only Daniel Dewitt: care Kirk Maurer: wood Daniel Dewitt: of it. Kirk Maurer: you can use are the ones that are hard, extremely Devin Merritt: Yeah, Kirk Maurer: hard Devin Merritt: exactly, Kirk Maurer: wood, but Devin Merritt: yeah. Kirk Maurer: there are some very pretty woods out there. Daniel Dewitt: Well I'm glad Kirk Maurer: That's actually Daniel Dewitt: you Kirk Maurer: very innovative idea. Daniel Dewitt: Okay, good. Sorr having a hard time keeping wi control over my face. Kirk Maurer: Well it's actually very n Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: The stain. Kirk Maurer: I mean it's each person is gonna have their own personalised, individualised speech recognition remote Daniel Dewitt: Mm. Kirk Maurer: control in wood, that's not on the market. Edward Farrell: Yeah, so it it's looks good the the design the functional design uh, what about yo you? Devin Merritt: Um, in terms of comments on this or Edward Farrell: Yes, Devin Merritt: in terms of my Edward Farrell: in t Devin Merritt: own Edward Farrell: yes, Kirk Maurer: In turns of wow. Edward Farrell: in term in terms of comments first Daniel Dewitt: She works in the cubicle next to Kirk Maurer so she's uh she was already a little bit prepared Devin Merritt: Y Daniel Dewitt: for this. Devin Merritt: yeah. Daniel Dewitt: Luckily Ed was not. Kirk Maurer: Wood? Devin Merritt: I think we can get the quality materials then it shouldn't influence the design principles too much, which you'll see with my presentation. One thing we'd have to check though is what the users whether how quickly the novelty wears off Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: of having Daniel Dewitt: Yeah, you wouldn't wanna have Devin Merritt: uh Daniel Dewitt: to have splinters in your Devin Merritt: Yeah, Daniel Dewitt: hand while you're Devin Merritt: for Daniel Dewitt: using Devin Merritt: example. Daniel Dewitt: your Devin Merritt: So, have to see how kid-friendly it is and and all that, but Daniel Dewitt: It's really good if your dog gets ahold of it, they can use it for teething. Kirk Maurer: They do that anyway with the rubber and plastic, so, Daniel Dewitt: Yeah, Kirk Maurer: and Daniel Dewitt: they do it with other Kirk Maurer: chew Daniel Dewitt: materials Kirk Maurer: 'em up. Daniel Dewitt: as well, yeah. Kirk Maurer: And chew 'em up. Edward Farrell: Okay then, uh, let's move to Agnes. Devin Merritt: Sure. Daniel Dewitt: Oh, I'm sorry. Edward Farrell: S you're Edward Farrell: You are in participant Devin Merritt: One point three, Edward Farrell: three. Devin Merritt: yeah Uh, yeah. Edward Farrell: This one? Devin Merritt: I think so, yeah. Yeah, that's the one. So, it's a very short presentation, 'cause I'm actually gonna draw you the layout on the board so if you want to just go straight to the second slide, um, which basically shows, sort of I took the ideas that we were talking about last time um and tried to put that into the remote control so the things that y you can actually see on it are the on off switch, volume and channel control, the menu access button, ergonomic shape, which I completely agree with Christine's idea to have it sort of molded, so it's slightly more ergonomic and comfortable to hold than the r standard very straight remote controls. And actually the other thing with the wood if we take your customising idea, is that people can actually do sort of quasi-measurements on their hand size, so if someone has larger hands, Daniel Dewitt: Right, my hand Devin Merritt: you have Daniel Dewitt: is Devin Merritt: a wider Daniel Dewitt: uh different Devin Merritt: remote Daniel Dewitt: size Devin Merritt: control. Daniel Dewitt: than yours for example. Devin Merritt: So, that's actually a really good idea for customi customisability. Um, one thing I thought might be kind of interesting is to put a flip screen on it, just like you have on flip phones, so that you don't have this case where someone sits on the remote control or accidentally puts their hand on it, especially if you have little kids around, they're not pressing the buttons while you're trying to watch a T_V_ show and accidentally change the channel Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: or turn it off. And also um you had issues with the batteries running out, so I thought maybe we could put a little battery life-light on it that kind of goes dimmer and dimmer and dimmer as your battery is starts to die. And in terms of invisible features, audio and um tactile feedback on button presses Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: and, like you said, speech recognition. So, in terms of what this thing would actually look like Despite working in interface design, I'm not the greatest artist in the world, so you'll have to forgive Kirk Maurer. You'd have something like this with an on-off switch fairly big, sort of in the corner and by itself, so you don't accidentally turn your T_V_ off while you're trying to manoeuvre other buttons. And then you have sort of one of those toggle displays for, oops, channels and volume, sort of for surfing channels and then volume, so the volume would be the up and down, 'cause volume goes up and down and then channels left to right. And then here you'd have your sort of standard, telephonish number pad. And then on one side you would have an access to the menu on your T_V_ and on the other side a way to turn off the voice control. So that if the user doesn't Daniel Dewitt: Mm. Devin Merritt: want to use their voice, they can just turn it off and you don't have the remote control Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: accidentally changing things on you. Um, so again you can have a little L_C_D_ light somewhere, the flip thing and Have I forgotten anything? I don't think so. So, Kirk Maurer: No. Devin Merritt: as you can see, it's a very very simple design, which is one of the things I really wanted to keep, is keep it simple, not have too many buttons, not have too many functionalities thrown into it. Think the design can pretty much carry over to everything, although with the wood the flip screen might have to do something slightly Daniel Dewitt: A Devin Merritt: different. Daniel Dewitt: hinge. Be like a copper hinge or Devin Merritt: Yeah. Daniel Dewitt: you know. Devin Merritt: But you also have to d start watching out for the weight, 'cause depending on how much the the flip screen will add to the weight Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: of the remote control, you don't want it to start getting too heavy. Daniel Dewitt: Mm. Devin Merritt: But that's the general layout with the general functionalities, if we come up with something else. As you can see, there's still lots of space on the actual remote control and if you do it customisably, you can make this thing fairly small or fairly o large, Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm, Devin Merritt: depending on personal Daniel Dewitt: mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: preferences. Kirk Maurer: Hmm. Devin Merritt: So, that's pretty much all I had to say, I mean, everything else in terms of design issues. just depending on where your thumb is and you tend to use the the volume control and uh the browsing more than the actual number pad, so that would be sort of in direct line of where your thumb goes when you are holding the Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: remote control, the number pad a little bit lower 'cause it's used Daniel Dewitt: Mm. Devin Merritt: less frequently. Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: So once we decide exactly what we want, then we can figure out the exact positioning, but more or less I think it should go along those lines. Edward Farrell: So what's your, uh, the comments or uh s Kirk Maurer: Simple design. It's what consumers want. Edward Farrell: Okay Kirk Maurer: It's almost like, Houston, we have a product here. Problem is obviously gonna be cost. Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: Okay, I also have a f very simple presentation, Edward Farrell: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: because for the marketing point you have to see Edward Farrell: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: what the consumers want. Devin Merritt: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: I also have uh copied a different type of remote. If you can find Kirk Maurer, where I'm at. There should only be one in here. trend watch. Daniel Dewitt: Sure. Kirk Maurer: It's being modified. They're stealing our product. We've been giving simple questionnaires in different areas because th obviously we have to see what the com consumers are looking for today, 'cause uh trends change very very quickly. In six months maybe this idea is already gone out the window, so it's gonna be a question how fast we can act. Uh they already erased the rest of mine, huh. Daniel Dewitt: No, f Devin Merritt: No, no. Daniel Dewitt: go to findings. Kirk Maurer: No no, no no. 'Cause I had another comment there. Uh the market trend. This is what we know from the last uh from the questionnaires from the the all the p surveys we've done, fancy and feel-good, that's what we've been looking for, something that feels good in the hand, that's easy to use. Looking for next generation of innovation, because all the remotes out there now, they're all very similar, they all do the same thing, we have to have something completely different. Okay? Easy to use, has always has become has become another major interest that uh, with the whiteboard we can see that it's a remote that's easy to use. And I think this is another thing that's interesting is the consumers actually willing to pay the price for exciting tel technology. So even if we have a product that may be more expensive, if it comes out right, if they look it looks and feels good and has technology. The second two, you can see the last one is a very easy simple design. The second one, there is about uh forty-five thousand different buttons on it, which makes it fairly hard to read, uh very hard to use. The first one, I see that they put in a display. Now there's something else uh with the little flip-up, now we're adding all kinds of things in, but with Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: the little flip-up, if you have a little display on the flip-up that when you close it everything is locked. Devin Merritt: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: Maybe the display also makes it easier to use, because sometimes when you're looking for buttons, maybe if you see a display Daniel Dewitt: Context-sensitive instructions, Devin Merritt: Right. Kirk Maurer: Okay Daniel Dewitt: depending on what the tel what mode the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ or something Kirk Maurer: Because Daniel Dewitt: else Kirk Maurer: I've Daniel Dewitt: is Kirk Maurer: seen Daniel Dewitt: in. Devin Merritt: Especially you Kirk Maurer: mostly Devin Merritt: might need something Kirk Maurer: the standard Devin Merritt: like that for Kirk Maurer: ones, Devin Merritt: training Kirk Maurer: yeah. Devin Merritt: the speech recognition Kirk Maurer: Now you have it now you Devin Merritt: and Kirk Maurer: have one with the very simple also. The idea is simple, but with a display, Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: so you can see what you're doing. So maybe if we can incorporate the easiness of use, Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: trendy, fancy, feels good, uh with a display, wood, designer wood, designer colours, Daniel Dewitt: You Kirk Maurer: we Daniel Dewitt: know, Kirk Maurer: might've Daniel Dewitt: maybe what you could do is when somebody orders the device Daniel Dewitt you could send them like um a uh uh b some sort of a foam rubber um ball, Devin Merritt: Oh yeah. Daniel Dewitt: and then they would squeeze it, and it would take the shape of their hand. Devin Merritt: Yeah, so it's really molded to Daniel Dewitt: To t Devin Merritt: to your specific Kirk Maurer: Mm-hmm. Daniel Dewitt: an and then you would know like um what the geometry of their hands would be and uh Kirk Maurer: How hard they squeeze? Daniel Dewitt: Yes Kirk Maurer: Resistance Daniel Dewitt: you'd know what kind Kirk Maurer: resistance, Daniel Dewitt: of wood to get. Kirk Maurer: right. Devin Merritt: But th for that you'd also have to do sort of an average across families and Daniel Dewitt: That's Devin Merritt: things like Daniel Dewitt: right, Devin Merritt: that Daniel Dewitt: that's Devin Merritt: if Daniel Dewitt: right, you wouldn't Devin Merritt: unless Daniel Dewitt: wanna go Devin Merritt: everyone Daniel Dewitt: too far Devin Merritt: has their Daniel Dewitt: down Devin Merritt: own Daniel Dewitt: that. Devin Merritt: personal remote. Daniel Dewitt: Oh that that actually would uh increase the um the revenues Devin Merritt: The sales, Daniel Dewitt: we could expect, Devin Merritt: yeah. Edward Farrell: The Daniel Dewitt: yeah. Edward Farrell: Yeah. I hope so. Kirk Maurer: No, but incorporating the three uh obviously it'd be something totally new on the market, Devin Merritt: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: totally different and from Devin Merritt: Well, already the customisability is a really good sort of new Kirk Maurer: Although, what Devin Merritt: gimmick. Kirk Maurer: it was it uh it was uh Nokia that came out with this changeable colours. Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: Right, Devin Merritt: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: you take it apart, and put on another Devin Merritt: Yeah. Kirk Maurer: face, take it off and put on another Daniel Dewitt: Right, Kirk Maurer: face Daniel Dewitt: mm. Kirk Maurer: and Devin Merritt: And Kirk Maurer: then Devin Merritt: that took off, Kirk Maurer: they sold Devin Merritt: yeah, Kirk Maurer: millions, Devin Merritt: yeah. Kirk Maurer: millions. So. So say with the f with the findings, with the research, easy to use something totally new. Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: We have to come up with something totally new that is not on the market. Daniel Dewitt: We'd also have to wor um consider that uh who we were gonna get to make these custom cases in terms of manufacturing processes, we might wanna um learn about um labour laws. You know in different countries and stuff wher so we can do it cheap, but you don't wanna exploit uh labour in um third world countries. Edward Farrell: Yeah. Daniel Dewitt: So actually you could turn it y turn around and say that you're uh par the reason the cost is high for the device is because um you're paying a a working wage to the person who made the device. Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: Yeah, but we can get a production in, uh, countries like, uh, Daniel Dewitt: Cost Edward Farrell: India Daniel Dewitt: of living is Edward Farrell: yes, Daniel Dewitt: low. Edward Farrell: yes, countries like India or China or Malaysia, so you can go a better features and better price and you can sell more. So Daniel Dewitt: Good, well th that'd be something that manufacturing would have to Edward Farrell: Yeah, Daniel Dewitt: um Edward Farrell: yeah, so Daniel Dewitt: explore more Devin Merritt: Mm yeah. Daniel Dewitt: and Edward Farrell: Yes. Kirk Maurer: Where Daniel Dewitt: to Kirk Maurer: w Where Daniel Dewitt: where Kirk Maurer: it would be manufactured Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Kirk Maurer: is is Edward Farrell: So Kirk Maurer: another step. Edward Farrell: Yeah, Daniel Dewitt: Yeah. Edward Farrell: so Kirk Maurer: We're here to design, Edward Farrell: Yes uh, but uh Kirk Maurer: come up Edward Farrell: that Kirk Maurer: with Edward Farrell: that Kirk Maurer: a nice Edward Farrell: we Kirk Maurer: product. Edward Farrell: can that we can Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: talk about the production later, okay, depends on the the quantity, okay. Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: So we don't need to have our own uh fabric factory or something, so we can have a tie-up with who the do the fabric, okay, for the different uh electronics items, then we can have a business tie-up and to get to cut the cost, okay, to sell more. So, but uh le let's decide first about the components concept and uh interface concept, okay, if is acceptable for both of you, what uh Ed was talking. And your design whether you want with the display Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: or without display or just a simple, so Devin Merritt: I think it depends, I mean I think it's a good idea, but we need to really think about how useful it's gonna be because theoretically with the T_V_ you already have a big display right in front of you. Edward Farrell: Yeah. Daniel Dewitt: Hmm. Devin Merritt: So, if we're trying to keep costs down, then maybe sacrificing the display Daniel Dewitt: Hmm. Devin Merritt: is a way to go. I mean it depends on how much putting a display costs and Daniel Dewitt: Hmm. Devin Merritt: what it would be used for very specifically what it would be used for, Daniel Dewitt: Mm-hmm. Devin Merritt: 'cause if it's only used for one little thing, then putting in a big display case or a big display that's probably expensive just to do the training on the chip for the speech recognition or whatever, may not be the most cost-efficient way to go, but that's just sort of speculation, I mean. Daniel Dewitt: What do you think Ed? Do you he liked the display in one of the concepts that you showed, um, do you know how much it costs, um, to to add a little display like this Kirk Maurer: No. Daniel Dewitt: uh? Kirk Maurer: No Daniel Dewitt: Do Kirk Maurer: no Daniel Dewitt: you wanna take an action Kirk Maurer: p spec Daniel Dewitt: item Kirk Maurer: It's Daniel Dewitt: to go find out? Kirk Maurer: 'cause we have to find out cost on it. Daniel Dewitt: Okay. Sorry Kirk Maurer: Um, Daniel Dewitt: about that. Kirk Maurer: no that's no problem. I'm here for the pushing it after it's made. Edward Farrell: Yes. Kirk Maurer: I will market it. Once we get a price on it then we can market it. Daniel Dewitt: So the the advanced chip on print is what um what we've we've deci we've determined and the uh engineering industrial design is the recommendation, and um I think we've kinda come to some agreement regarding um this concept of a wooden case. Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Daniel Dewitt: A customisable and Kirk Maurer: Nice beautiful mahogany Devin Merritt: What about Kirk Maurer: red Devin Merritt: the Kirk Maurer: wooden Devin Merritt: buttons, Kirk Maurer: case. Devin Merritt: would Would the buttons be wood too, or Daniel Dewitt: Uh I don't think so, Edward Farrell: I don't think so. Daniel Dewitt: no, I think they could be rubber Edward Farrell: Yes. Daniel Dewitt: like they are now, Edward Farrell: Yes. Daniel Dewitt: so you have that Edward Farrell: Don't Daniel Dewitt: tactile Edward Farrell: looks nice Daniel Dewitt: experience Edward Farrell: uh. Daniel Dewitt: of Edward Farrell: Yeah, so uh what we'll do is, uh, we will stick with the the simple design for time being until uh th Ed find outs about the how much it's cost to the extra, in case we go for the display. Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: Okay. So maybe what you can do is uh, both of you, you can come up with the the prototype, okay, the model. Devin Merritt: Okay. Edward Farrell: Okay? Devin Merritt: Sure. Daniel Dewitt: So um are we done with this meeting? Edward Farrell: Yeah, I hope, if is it okay if uh they will come up with the prototype design, okay. Then they can show you how it looks like, and then we can uh submit to the I will submit to the management. Okay? Then meantime you can come up with the price, how much it's cost as extra for uh the display. Daniel Dewitt: And a marketing Edward Farrell: An Daniel Dewitt: strategy. Edward Farrell: and the marketing Kirk Maurer: And Edward Farrell: strategy, Kirk Maurer: marketing strategy, Edward Farrell: that's very Kirk Maurer: thank Edward Farrell: important, Kirk Maurer: you. Edward Farrell: okay. Yes. How much Kirk Maurer: Fired. Edward Farrell: you can how mu how much how much you can sell extra. Of course you'll make money too, so it it's not only pay-out, you make money too, your commission. Okay, so, any questions? Devin Merritt: No. Edward Farrell: So, by next meeting, so, please come up with the the prototype, okay, then uh, then we can proceed from there. Devin Merritt: Okay. Edward Farrell: It's okay? Devin Merritt: Mm-hmm. Edward Farrell: So thanks for all your uh efforts and coming for the meeting again, and see you soon then. Devin Merritt: Okay. Edward Farrell: Okay? Thank you.	Daniel Dewitt gave her components concept presentation, which presented the components that will be used and how they will be integrated into the functional design. She announced that their only choice for casing material was wood, so she suggested an idea of having customizable wood cases. Devin Merritt gave her presentation on the user interface concept for the product, and gave a basic layout of the remote's key functions. Kirk Maurer presented the marketing concept and discussed including a display to facilitate use. The group discussed the unique, custom design of the remote, and quickly talked about finding a manufacturer that could make the custom cases cheaply that still paid fair wages. The group also discussed whether or not to incorporate the display into the design, and decided to wait until the cost of adding that feature was known before adding it to the design. Daniel Dewitt and Devin Merritt were instructed to begin building a prototype, and Kirk Maurer was instructed to work on the marketing strategy as well as research the cost of the display component.	3	amisum	train
Ian Cook: I'm Peter Neal: Welcome Ian Cook: sorry Peter Neal: back. Ian Cook: to be late. Peter Neal: Welcome back everybody. Robert Norman: Yeah. Thanks. Peter Neal: So this meeting agenda will be the detailed design meeting. And uh opening and uh P_M_s of the meet minutes, uh prototype presentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes. Ian Cook: Agnes, yes. Peter Neal: Yes and uh evaluation criteria. The finance, it's uh from my side, from the management, and uh production evaluation. Then uh closing. So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the product and project and to move further, okay, so Okay, let's talk about maybe first uh for the prototype. Robert Norman: Mm, okay. Peter Neal: So I handle to Robert Norman: I've done presentation, but it pretty much covers work that we've both done, so if I'm missing anything, Christine Peter Neal: So Robert Norman: can Peter Neal: shall Robert Norman: just Peter Neal: I go to Ian Cook: Uh thank Robert Norman: correct Peter Neal: sorry. Ian Cook: you, Robert Norman: Victor Bohnet. Ian Cook: so you did a Peter Neal: Yep. Ian Cook: PowerPoint Peter Neal: S Ian Cook: presentation, good for you. Peter Neal: Okay, let's go to A_M_I_. Robert Norman: It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation in the world, but Peter Neal: So in two or three or Robert Norman: Three. Um. No Victor Bohnet: Probably. Robert Norman: it's think it's the last Victor Bohnet: Technical Robert Norman: one. Victor Bohnet: pa I would think. Robert Norman: No, then this is the la yeah, that Victor Bohnet: Ha. Robert Norman: one, final design. Peter Neal: Yeah. Robert Norman: It is named appropriately, you just couldn't see the name. Um okay I have Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: Thanks. Alright, so from when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting, we decided that we wanted an ergonomic shape, the material that we chose was wood, and uh the colour would be customisable, 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour. Um, so in terms of function, you have to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control, and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design, if we figure out it's too expensive, well then you just take it off. Um, so to unveil our lovely product. This is our remote control, with the flip panel as you can see. So if you lift up the panel, you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display. Um, this is actually hard to do. The yellow button you have is the on off button, so it's really big, hard to miss. You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume. So up volume up, down volume down. The green are the channel changing. S And it's one of those very light, very touchable displays. And then you have the numeric pad in the dark blue at the bottom, and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on the T_V_, and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition. So this is pretty much what we had on the white board the last time. Peter Neal: Mm-hmm. Robert Norman: So. Ian Cook: Um and uh Robert Norman: Oh Ian Cook: I Robert Norman: yes. Ian Cook: could Yeah the Robert Norman: Additional Ian Cook: d Robert Norman: feature on the back is that you can have your own customised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front. So that you can really make this a highly highly customisable remote control. Ian Cook: We haven't um uh specified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed. That depends on the uh s design of the circuit board inside and uh what room is left um Robert Norman: Yeah. Peter Neal: I think the microphone is on on the top, uh Ian Cook: Yes, Peter Neal: on the middle, Ian Cook: okay. Peter Neal: the under the flip. Ian Cook: Uh-huh. Peter Neal: So that will be the safe, so p any the chip it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone to Ian Cook: No, I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board. Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: But it shouldn't be under the flip either, because you can have the remote control closed, but you still might want to Peter Neal: Uh it's Robert Norman: activate Peter Neal: it's Robert Norman: it by voice. Peter Neal: Yeah, but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk, okay, so then you can speak then you can close it. But if you put it on the on the flip, okay, then uh technical I don't think it's uh feasible, 'cause most of the time you speak then it will be recognised. Robert Norman: But if you've already got the remote control in your hand you need to open the flip to use the voice, why use the voice, why not just use your hand? I mean the whole point of the voice is that if the remote control is sitting there and I'm too lazy to reach over and pick it up, I can just use my voice. Ian Cook: Maybe I've got my hand in the popcorn bowl and I'm holding my cup of Coca-Cola in the other hand. Robert Norman: Yeah. And you Victor Bohnet: I Robert Norman: don't Victor Bohnet: don't Robert Norman: wanna let Victor Bohnet: wanna Robert Norman: go Victor Bohnet: say. Robert Norman: of either one. Victor Bohnet: Louder. Yeah. Robert Norman: I mean it doesn't have to be on the flip, it can be on the side Victor Bohnet: Can Robert Norman: somewhere. Victor Bohnet: also be on the side. Peter Neal: Yeah, the sides maybe Robert Norman: Yeah. Peter Neal: is good. So That's good idea. Ian Cook: Mm-hmm. Robert Norman: So, I mean I can pass this around if Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: anyone Peter Neal: So it's Robert Norman: wants Peter Neal: maybe good Robert Norman: to Peter Neal: idea. Ian Cook: Yeah, y better you pass it around with a napkin. Victor Bohnet: No, because y you can easily put a microphone on the side that would have Robert Norman: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: no problem Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: would haven't been not be damaged or anything, and it'd Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: be accessible all the time to voice. Robert Norman: Yeah, exactly. Victor Bohnet: Yeah. Peter Neal: So it's maybe good idea. S s Ian Cook: It's um Victor Bohnet: Compliments to the artist. Ian Cook: It's um You need to work on the weight a little bit. Robert Norman: Yes. Victor Bohnet: Uh. Peter Neal: Okay. S I'm Robert Norman: And maybe Peter Neal: fine, Robert Norman: the shape Peter Neal: I'm satisfi Robert Norman: of the buttons, the little Peter Neal: I'm satisfied. Robert Norman: egg shapes aren't the most economical, Ian Cook: We're glad Peter Neal: Of course Ian Cook: you're Peter Neal: it's Ian Cook: satisfied. Robert Norman: but Peter Neal: it's it's looks more heo heavy, but I think when it's completely maybe it's a less weight. Robert Norman: Yeah. I mean this is plasticene. There's Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: only so much you can do. We could have possibly made it a lot thinner as well. But And part of the thing is m a lot of people say that they don't like something that's too light, because they don't feel like they have enough control over it. Ian Cook: Mm-hmm. Robert Norman: So I mean maybe this is excessively heavy, but I think it needs to have some weight, it needs Peter Neal: Yep. Robert Norman: to feel like you're still holding something. So that's pretty much it for our presentation actually. Peter Neal: That's your uh prototype model? Robert Norman: Yeah. Peter Neal: Okay, that's good, thank you very much. So any comments or uh Victor Bohnet: Well, the prototype is very within the design and ideas that we've we've about on previous meetings. Peter Neal: Okay. Victor Bohnet: Now it goes into this next phase as the financial Peter Neal: Yes, that Victor Bohnet: uh marketing Peter Neal: uh Victor Bohnet: uh Peter Neal: So I'll come back to the Peter Neal: So evaluation criteria, I think uh that will be good, so then let's come to the finance uh, I have some uh calculations which I made uh as for uh the budget. So here you can uh look like uh the energy and uh dynamo and uh kinetic and solar cells. Uh it's optional, somewhat optional and Ed wants the chip on print, that's what uh we were talking about that. So then we have sample sensor and sample speaker, then uh we have the wood material, then special colour and push button. So it's uh actually, our budget was uh twelve point five Euro, but uh it's coming to nine point nine five Euro, so we are under uh below the budget, okay, so still we are saving some money. I think it's a good figure. Ian Cook: Yes, great I I'm surprised. Congratulations. Peter Neal: Than thank you. Victor Bohnet: Well we haven't come to mine yet, so Ian Cook: Oh, okay. Victor Bohnet: we're Ian Cook: It's Victor Bohnet: gonna have a Ian Cook: gonna Victor Bohnet: bit Ian Cook: cost Victor Bohnet: of Ian Cook: a Victor Bohnet: difference Ian Cook: long Victor Bohnet: of opinion, Ian Cook: way Victor Bohnet: yes. Ian Cook: to c you know, cost a lot of money to market it, is it? Peter Neal: So maybe it's for some money we can utilise for our uh marketing, for the sales, okay, and uh Victor Bohnet: Well, it just depends on if we're gonna add a o on this pr provisionary cost analysis, we do not have a L_C_ display. L_C_ display is gonna be very expensive, Robert Norman: No Victor Bohnet: it's gonna Robert Norman: we do, Victor Bohnet: be Robert Norman: but it's not filled in. It's Victor Bohnet: It's Peter Neal: It's Victor Bohnet: not Robert Norman: number Victor Bohnet: it doesn't Robert Norman: thirty. Ian Cook: Thirty. Victor Bohnet: say. Peter Neal: not. Victor Bohnet: We don't Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: have the price Robert Norman: Oh, Victor Bohnet: up Robert Norman: yeah, Victor Bohnet: there, Peter Neal: Yeah. Robert Norman: yeah, you're Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: okay, Robert Norman: right, sorry, Ian Cook: Yeah. Peter Neal: Yeah. Robert Norman: yes. Victor Bohnet: so if we add approximately two to three Euro per remote, now we're up around about twelve, twelve and a half as to what uh the company had initially uh requested. Ian Cook: So that Victor Bohnet: Um Ian Cook: means we can put the uh Victor Bohnet: Display Ian Cook: the L_C_D_ Victor Bohnet: in. Ian Cook: in, yeah. Victor Bohnet: But as far as production um I'm putting up a question because we're talking about profit also, and in mine you'll see uh the problem with uh our survey, the p the possibility that how many units can be sold, what percentage of the market, etcetera etcetera because that has to be taken in into consideration. Uh this is just production cost, it is not uh advertising cost, it's not transportation cost uh Peter Neal: Yes, so still uh we have twelve point five Victor Bohnet: And Peter Neal: Euro. Victor Bohnet: that will inflate Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: quite a bit the cost of the uh Peter Neal: Yeah, Victor Bohnet: the Peter Neal: but Victor Bohnet: cost of the unit Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: for the company. Peter Neal: Yep. Robert Norman: Um-hmm. Victor Bohnet: So to come up with what the company wants is a fifty million Pound profit, we're gonna have to go a long ways. Peter Neal: Yes. This we are talking about one unit, okay, so Victor Bohnet: Yes. Peter Neal: when it go into the quantity, okay, and the cost will come down. Victor Bohnet: Slightly. Ian Cook: Although customisation, because this is being done, you know, the on on-order basis, Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: It's Ian Cook: it Victor Bohnet: gonna Ian Cook: might Victor Bohnet: be very Ian Cook: be Victor Bohnet: hard Ian Cook: uh Victor Bohnet: to Ian Cook: the the quantity Robert Norman: Yes. Victor Bohnet: reduce. Ian Cook: won't m won't uh the circuit board will b you're right, would be in producing quantity, but the cost of the case would uh be fixed at the Uh you got some pretty cheap labour that can do this case for one Euro. Victor Bohnet: That's Ian Cook: That's Victor Bohnet: not bad. Ian Cook: really that's the cost of the material Peter Neal: Yep. Ian Cook: and lab wow, that's Peter Neal: Yeah. Ian Cook: really outstanding. Peter Neal: But anyhow, still we are under control, okay, so what uh I will do is I will try to negotiate with the vendors, okay, to get uh the production cost less, okay, so then we can save some money, okay, to put into th our marketing or uh you know the promotions, whatever, okay, so that uh I will look after. I will speak to the management and how to get uh you know some more uh cost down. Victor Bohnet: If we can go to to my display. And we'll come back to yours Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: just to give everybody an idea of the market. So now I'm gonna scare everybody out of this project. If I'm still here. Peter Neal: You're in four? Victor Bohnet: Yep. The four gives Victor Bohnet it's gotta be uh Peter Neal: TrendWatch. Victor Bohnet: TrendWatch. Ian Cook: Is this the same one you did before? Victor Bohnet: No. Ian Cook: Okay. Victor Bohnet: It shouldn't be if Robert Norman: That's Victor Bohnet: it's not it's not the right one. Robert Norman: no, Victor Bohnet: No, Robert Norman: I think Victor Bohnet: no Robert Norman: it's the Victor Bohnet: we Robert Norman: same Victor Bohnet: g Robert Norman: one. Victor Bohnet: no, that's the same one. You have to go back and find another one. Whatever name it popped up under. Uh Robert Norman: Functional. Victor Bohnet: functional, try functional, it might not be it either, but we'll see. Robert Norman: It looks like it, there's Victor Bohnet: Yep, that's Robert Norman: S Victor Bohnet: it. Robert Norman: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: So we'll go screen by screen. Peter Neal: Okay. Victor Bohnet: Although since uh we need to have some type of idea on a market uh we had independent study that says it this this market has an availability to absorb eight mi eight million units per year. Okay? Our internal company evaluation puts it between eight to nine million which is approximately the same as the independent study. Peter Neal: Yep. Victor Bohnet: So if we continue, we'll look at the findings. Next screen. Which means that uh if we have a target of two million would the company has to take twenty five percent of the market in the first year, Peter Neal: Mm-hmm. Victor Bohnet: which is actually a tremendous amount. Ian Cook: Yeah, no kidding. Victor Bohnet: No kidding, yeah. Ian Cook: Mayb maybe they already expected Victor Bohnet: So, Ian Cook: something. Victor Bohnet: if we put an inflated price of fifty Euro at a production cost that cannot exceed twenty-five Euro, okay, we're already in that that price, Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: okay, with transport, promotion, labour, because we hav gi included the promotion in the cost, Robert Norman: Um-hmm. Victor Bohnet: transport for the material to the stores or whatever how however we're gonna break this down between our our retailers. Twenty-five percent of the market to get to two million units. At two million units, we have to have a profit of twenty-five Euro per unit to get to the fifty million unit Eu Peter Neal: Mm-hmm. Victor Bohnet: Euro profit. Peter Neal: Yep. Victor Bohnet: Okay? So, obviously we w w I just did a run down the evaluation of the form, the fan uh the fancy stylishness of the of the unit, the ease of use, speech recognition, cost, we've gone through these. Now, the company must evaluate the feasibility of being able to take enough of the market to justify in production. Or we project this over two years, but being that the market changes very very quickly, maybe Peter Neal: Yes. Victor Bohnet: there's no more interest in buying this thing in eighteen months from now. Peter Neal: Yep. Victor Bohnet: So, Peter Neal: Of Robert Norman: Mm. Peter Neal: course. Victor Bohnet: now we have to come up with a decision. Can the company sell two million units? Peter Neal: Yep. Victor Bohnet: Can it sell it for Ian Cook: Could Victor Bohnet: fifty Euros? Peter Neal: Yep. Ian Cook: could I go to findings? Uh uh um I would uh like to explore the possibility of using um alternative um delivery and sales channel which would be um to use the internet Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: I was thinking the same Ian Cook: for Robert Norman: thing, Ian Cook: promotion Robert Norman: yeah. Ian Cook: and ordering and then to drop-ship the p product to the customer's Robert Norman: Directly. Ian Cook: residence. That way you have no storage, you have no um you do have transportation, Robert Norman: Um-hmm. Ian Cook: still have the labour cost, but you don't have the transport to the uh point of sale. Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: The point of sale is Peter Neal: To the Ian Cook: online. Peter Neal: agents. Robert Norman: Yeah. You can do a shipping centre somewhere, or strategically place shipping centres Ian Cook: Right, Robert Norman: to minimise Ian Cook: like Amazon. Robert Norman: distance Ian Cook: In fact, Robert Norman: costs. Ian Cook: we Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: should sell through Amazon, don't you Peter Neal: Or Ian Cook: think? Peter Neal: eBay, or Ian Cook: Or eBay, yeah. Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: There's an idea. Going Peter Neal: Yeah, that's a good Ian Cook: with Peter Neal: idea. Ian Cook: um Peter Neal: To impro more profit Victor Bohnet: S Peter Neal: and Victor Bohnet: Upscale Peter Neal: uh Victor Bohnet: technology. Peter Neal: Yeah, yes. Ian Cook: Ah, we we're do you know, selling a Victor Bohnet: Well. Ian Cook: unique product uh. Robert Norman: That actually makes more sense if we're gonna make it so highly customisable, 'cause on the web people can look at the different options they have, see maybe what other people have done, what Ian Cook: Mm. Robert Norman: the range of possibility Victor Bohnet: There are several Robert Norman: as, Victor Bohnet: companies Robert Norman: whereas Victor Bohnet: that Robert Norman: if Victor Bohnet: have gone Robert Norman: you're Victor Bohnet: that Robert Norman: in a store, Victor Bohnet: way. Ian Cook: Mm. Robert Norman: you can't unless you're a highly imaginative person, you may not really know what it is you want, whereas on the web, if you have a bunch Ian Cook: Mm-hmm. Robert Norman: of pictures, it can sort of trigger ideas and Ian Cook: And you can even have an a movie that you can rotate the object and look at the Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: di the only thing that you're missing really is the Robert Norman: The Ian Cook: weight. Robert Norman: weight Victor Bohnet: Weight, Robert Norman: and feel. Victor Bohnet: the feel of the Ian Cook: Mm. Victor Bohnet: product, Robert Norman: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: but Ian Cook: We're getting used to that. It's not quite like trying on a shoe, but people Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: are getting used to buying things online that they can't touch Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: before Victor Bohnet: There are several Ian Cook: buying. Victor Bohnet: that have gone through with the watches, too. You can customise a watch, you can see how it is at the f Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Victor Bohnet: at the end of the production, Ian Cook: Uh-huh. Victor Bohnet: you can change it uh There's a lot of online that's that is doing Robert Norman: Yes. Victor Bohnet: this now. And when you're rotating, you'll look behind and look this way uh it's possible to do with this, Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: know, feasibili feasibility uh lower the price of the unit. Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Peter Neal: We can. Ian Cook: Great. Peter Neal: I don't think that's uh not possible, it's uh okay then, l uh let's wait for the production, okay, then uh you can evaluate the product, so how it looks like technically and uh how it look like uh the real. Robert Norman: What turnaround time do we have? Peter Neal: T Robert Norman: 'Cause I mean production evaluation can Peter Neal: Oh Robert Norman: be Peter Neal: but Robert Norman: very very quick or very very Peter Neal: Yes Robert Norman: long. Peter Neal: it's it's very quick, of course. It will uh come back in two weeks, okay, it will be ready in two weeks. Ian Cook: Works for Victor Bohnet. Peter Neal: For evaluation, okay. Ian Cook: Prototypes, you mean. Peter Neal: Yes, the Ian Cook: In Peter Neal: prototype Ian Cook: um Peter Neal: uh prototype product evaluation. Ian Cook: We probably should do some market tests Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: uh once we have the prototypes Victor Bohnet: Well, obviously. Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: and do some orders Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: and things like Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: that and test-market it. Victor Bohnet: Mm that'd Peter Neal: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: have to be thrown out on the market for people to get an idea, to Peter Neal: So Victor Bohnet: see Peter Neal: you can take Victor Bohnet: get Peter Neal: a Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Peter Neal: minimum two Victor Bohnet: get Peter Neal: weeks Victor Bohnet: their Peter Neal: to a maximum four weeks. Yeah. Robert Norman: it's not a trivial task. Peter Neal: Yeah, because we we are not going to do it in uh our factory, okay, so we can Robert Norman: No Peter Neal: give it Robert Norman: no. Peter Neal: a product Robert Norman: We Peter Neal: evalua Robert Norman: definitely shouldn't do it Peter Neal: Yes, Robert Norman: in our factory. Peter Neal: yes. So we'll do it in the other place, and I don't think it's take more than four weeks time. Or uh Okay, so then the real production we will start once we product evaluation, okay then, uh it's approve from uh the technical team and uh your team, okay, uh from the management, then we can launch in the market. Hm? Ian Cook: Any outstanding? Peter Neal: S Any any other uh questions or uh comments to be discuss? Ian Cook: No, Robert Norman: What ab Ian Cook: I'm Victor Bohnet: I think we Ian Cook: go Victor Bohnet: pretty Ian Cook: ahead. Victor Bohnet: much covered everything. Peter Neal: Okay, so then Ian Cook: Did you Peter Neal: uh Ian Cook: have something? Robert Norman: Well I was just wondering about if we're gonna do a product evaluation then what about time for redesign if the users come back and tell us no this is bad, this is bad, we want this done differently. Peter Neal: Okay uh, let's take like this. Let's proceed with this model, okay, for the for the marketing direction, okay. So no more changes will be made, okay, in this the basic design. Okay? So we will introduce m this model and uh let's introduce in the market and let's take the feedback from the customers, then we can uh go for the Ian Cook: Second generation. Peter Neal: second generation. Okay. There's no end, there's not limit. Robert Norman: The problem is there Peter Neal: Every Robert Norman: might not Peter Neal: every Robert Norman: be a second Peter Neal: custom Robert Norman: generation if the first generation Victor Bohnet: Well, then it Robert Norman: flops Victor Bohnet: may not be. Robert Norman: for some silly reason Peter Neal: Okay. Well, every Robert Norman: that Peter Neal: customer, Robert Norman: we haven't thought Peter Neal: okay, Victor Bohnet: Like Robert Norman: of. Victor Bohnet: people Peter Neal: they have Victor Bohnet: don't Peter Neal: their Victor Bohnet: like Peter Neal: own Victor Bohnet: wood. Peter Neal: ideas, they have their own test, okay, so there's no end, there's no limit. Robert Norman: No, but there's a difference between releasing a product that has been minimally tested and fine-tuned to suit a general range of requirements versus releasing a product that we think will work but we don't really have anything to back Victor Bohnet: very Robert Norman: it Victor Bohnet: specific. Robert Norman: up. Peter Neal: Yeah, so that's the reason you are here for uh the design, okay, I hope you made a Robert Norman: Yes, Peter Neal: good design. Robert Norman: but I'm not everybody. I mean the whole point of user evaluation is to see what real people need. We have our own motivations in mind, we have our own ideas in mind, but that doesn't mean that that's what's gonna sell. Peter Neal: Yeah, but uh see, we ought to take a few considerations, okay, one is the price consideration, one is future consideration, okay, like uh you can eat uh you can all eat more chi I can eat more chilli, okay, so i it's a depends on the individual taste, you know, so we have we have to balance somewhere. Robert Norman: Yeah, of course. I'm just trying to point out that I think that your evaluation and redesign turnaround time is too short well you have no redesign not you personally, but Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: in the project Ian Cook: Our Robert Norman: we Ian Cook: project Robert Norman: have no Peter Neal: Yeah. Ian Cook: doesn't Robert Norman: redesign time Ian Cook: um Robert Norman: and Ian Cook: Ed, d do you know what season of the year or time of the year is the most important for T_V_ remote control sales? Victor Bohnet: Hmm. Ian Cook: Would it be the Christmas season by any chance? Peter Neal: The sports time. Ian Cook: Sports season. Victor Bohnet: Right before Ian Cook: Which Victor Bohnet: the Eur Ian Cook: sport Victor Bohnet: the Ian Cook: season? Victor Bohnet: World Cup. Peter Neal: Football. Victor Bohnet: World Ian Cook: So Robert Norman: Yeah. Victor Bohnet: soccer. Ian Cook: so Victor Bohnet: World Cup soccer, they need those things Peter Neal: Football. Victor Bohnet: that they have Ian Cook: maybe Victor Bohnet: their hands Ian Cook: what Victor Bohnet: g occupied and they need to be able to talk to the con remote control. Ian Cook: So I think what we need to do is perhaps to synchronise the final the the launch of a user-tested Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: device with some special event. Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: Yeah, that's Ian Cook: And Robert Norman: a good idea. Ian Cook: and then um so that gives us a little more time perhaps then we anticipated, because I don't know when the World Cup is, but I'm sure there's gonna be one. Victor Bohnet: Or any major sports. Ian Cook: Or another m major sports event. Probably not the um the football games coming up the end of January. I think that might be a little too aggressive Peter Neal: Yes. Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: um, but, so, I'm just ig uh pointing out a uh a strategy to uh do some additional user testing Peter Neal: Research. Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Ian Cook: pri and then to launch um at a a major sports event or Peter Neal: Yep. Ian Cook: uh perhaps to uh Robert Norman: That's Ian Cook: also Robert Norman: actually good place to advertise it too. Ian Cook: And to work with Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: motion pictures. There might be some motion pictures that are coming out um that are coming out on D_V_D_ that uh they need to have a m special remote control to work with it, so we could maybe work out a campaign with uh with Sony Pictures Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: for example. Maybe Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Ian Cook: some management has got uh relationships there we can leverage. Peter Neal: Yes, the that of course uh I will convince the management to do that, okay. Ian Cook: That's great. Robert Norman: It's just something to to keep in mind, 'cause it's really really important. Peter Neal: Sure, sure, Robert Norman: A lot of products have Peter Neal: yes. Robert Norman: gone out there without being properly user-tested and completely flopped, when in fact it gets re-released a few years down the line with proper testing and it takes off like crazy. Ian Cook: Disposable diapers is an example of that in fact. Robert Norman: Really? Ian Cook: Yes, Robert Norman: That I didn't Ian Cook: it is one of Robert Norman: know. Ian Cook: the first consumer products that was launched about thirty years that was a disposable consumer product, and uh people the market hadn't really gotten on to the concept that you could use something and then throw it away, Robert Norman: Mm-hmm. Ian Cook: 'cause it wasn't uh but then when they re-launched them thirty years later, they were virtually the same design, but people had gotten the throw-away, you know, paper cups and napki y all kinds of things that they hadn't um so, Robert Norman: Yeah. Ian Cook: you're right, timing is very important, Peter Neal: Yeah. Ian Cook: a good product. Robert Norman: Yeah. Peter Neal: That's the reason Ed is here. I Ian Cook: That's Peter Neal: think he Ian Cook: right. Peter Neal: can promote the the brand value and the product value. Ian Cook: It's gonna be very important to the Peter Neal: Yes. Ian Cook: company. Peter Neal: We are behind the scene and he is the front screen, so. Robert Norman: Yep. Victor Bohnet: Yeah, I'm the one Peter Neal: He's Victor Bohnet: who takes Peter Neal: on Victor Bohnet: the Peter Neal: the Victor Bohnet: heat. Peter Neal: big screen. Robert Norman: Exactly. Ian Cook: Good luck, Ed. Victor Bohnet: If it's a flop, it's the marketer. Ian Cook: You look very relaxed, Victor Bohnet: Yes. Ian Cook: considering h you know, the Victor Bohnet: Yes. Ian Cook: uh Victor Bohnet: Stress. Ian Cook: the weight on your shoulders, yeah. Peter Neal: Okay, so then uh let's come to the closing and Victor Bohnet: Celebration. Peter Neal: uh are the costs within the budget and uh is the product evaluated, okay, so that will uh come soon. Okay for uh but our time being, so thanks for all your efforts and great work and uh great design and uh let's leave it to the Ed for later for once production is over and the meantime let's celebrate. So let's meet up uh this evening to hang up for some party. Ian Cook: Sounds good. Peter Neal: 'S good. Robert Norman: Okay. Ian Cook: Thank you. Victor Bohnet: Very good. Ian Cook: Nice working with you. Victor Bohnet: Thank you very much. Peter Neal: Thank you. Robert Norman: Thanks. Peter Neal: Thank you again for all. And Victor Bohnet: Bye-bye. Peter Neal: see you in the evening for drinks. Victor Bohnet: Yep, okay, see Robert Norman: Bye. Victor Bohnet: you later on.	Robert Norman presented the prototype of the product to the group. The product featured an LCD display, a flip panel, and a customizable case back. Peter Neal displayed the cost of all of the components, and the group decided that the current budget would not allow the addition of the LCD display. Peter Neal decided to negotiate the cost of production to allow the addition of the display. Victor Bohnet gave a presentation on sales projection and showed that the current projected sales point would probably not allow the project to reach its profit aim. The group also discussed the distribution and promotion of the product on the internet. Robert Norman expressed concern that there would not be time under the current plan to make changes to the product resulting from consumer testing; Peter Neal decided that no additional changes would be made. The group then discussed other means of promoting the product: launching the remote at the same time as a large sporting event or DVD release.	3	amisum	train
Earl Collin: So uh good morning. Samuel Nitz: Morning. Christopher Munoz: Morning. Michael Newark: Morning. Earl Collin: I see you all find places. Is everybody Christopher Munoz: Yep. Earl Collin: sitting on the right place? Yeah? I guess so. So Let's see. First I will introduce myself. I don't know if uh if everybody knows Christopher Munoz, so I'm Christopher Munoz: My Earl Collin: Bart, Christopher Munoz: name's Frank. Earl Collin: hello. Hello. Samuel Nitz: I'm. Earl Collin: Bart. Hello. Hello. Bart. Welcome. Christopher Munoz: Thank you Earl Collin: Uh let's see. Uh let's start off um with a little presentation. Uh Now first I'll tell you a little bit about the setting. You can see are cameras here. They'll record uh our actions and you'll have wires and microphones that will record your voice. Uh there are also some microphones there but th um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those, because it will uh disappear when you don't attend to it. So is there a project documents folder? There are some notes in it already I see, some documents. Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off. Is being modified by the administrator. Uh okay. Christopher Munoz: Hmm, Earl Collin: Let's do it read Christopher Munoz: that's Earl Collin: only. Christopher Munoz: interesting. Earl Collin: Well I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're working for Real Reaction. Uh it's a company in uh electronics. We put fashion in electronics, uh we make it work, uh we put a lot of effort in design and in the product itself. I'm Bart Earl Collin so I'll direct you through the project. This is our agenda. Uh we have our opening acquaintance, tool training, project plan description closing. Uh maybe I can sit down, then I can take some notes or Let's see. Maybe you can take the minutes once in a while. Christopher Munoz: Sure. Earl Collin: I dunno it's not a lot of work, but just uh if you hear something uh you can write down, just write it down. Uh as you can see uh it's the opening, aquaintance tool training. Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit. Um have you all seen the corporate website already? Christopher Munoz: Yep. Samuel Nitz: Yep. Christopher Munoz: Visit Earl Collin: Yeah. Christopher Munoz: it. Earl Collin: Have you seen any flaws in it? I think I found one. No? Samuel Nitz: Hmm? Christopher Munoz: Can't say I paid much attention to it, Earl Collin: I can see if it works this way. No, it doesn't work here. Okay no problem. But um on the corporate information side there's a th uh there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction. Christopher Munoz: Oh yeah. Earl Collin: Real Remote is not really the company we're we are, but Samuel Nitz: Okay. Earl Collin: it's just a little Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: fault. Um okay, what are we going to do? Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy, and user friendly. So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you. We've Christopher Munoz: Okay. Earl Collin: got Christopher Munoz for uh the trendy and user friendly look. And Industrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original. And we've got our User Interface Designer. Samuel Nitz: Yep. Earl Collin: He's also uh That's about the new remote control. Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through. First is functional des uh design, individual work, meetings. After the functional design, then the conceptual design and the detailed design. I had some role indications on here. But I think you know it already by yourself. Michael Newark is going to work on the working design, uh components design and a bit of the look and feel design. Uh Samuel Nitz is going to do the technical function design, user interface concept and user interface design. And Christopher Munoz is doing a little bit of user requirement specification, trend watching and project uh product ev evaluation. So that's a bit what you're going to do. But that will be all worked out in uh other meetings. Then we've got our first tool training. We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here, so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit of training first. As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board. Um in the white board here there's a little tool bar on this side. Here are some functions. You can save. N uh these functions we don't have anything to do with, only undo, you can undo a little uh piece of drawing. A blank new document for each person. Uh select a pen, eraser. Capture we don't have to do anything with. Uh then we've got our pen. This pen. It's really Christopher Munoz: 'Kay. Earl Collin: funny because you can draw with it on this page um in the think it is form of. You can also select the current colour and the line width. Samuel Nitz: Hmm. Earl Collin: But then first you have to select the pen function. But we're going to work with it in a minute. So okay. Uh that's very simple and it's easy to uh draw your findings and drawings on there. Uh then a short thing about documents. We've got our shared folder, project project what was it? Project documents I think. But all you will found that already because there are a lot of documents in it already, so it will be okay. And these are available on the smart boards as well, Samuel Nitz: Okay. Yeah. Earl Collin: Here is a simple tool bar. It's what I just said, it's save, print, move back or forward one page. You can switch between the different drawings. And then we're going to try out the white board. So as you can see we g all going to draw a animal. Just to uh uh just to get a bit familiar with it. Mouse wasn't running away. Christopher Munoz: That was interesting. Earl Collin: Is everybody is anybody playing with the mouse? No. Okay. Christopher Munoz: Innocent. Earl Collin: We're going to uh draw animal. And uh just sum up a few of its favourite characteristics. Um the only thing we have to uh look after is that we use different colours, and different line width. Uh there's I can start from now. I will. You can use this pen by holding it like a like a little child. Because if you hold it like this, the sensors will get blocked and then the Samuel Nitz: Okay. Christopher Munoz: 'Kay. Earl Collin: drawing won't get good. Another thing is you have to be uh a bit slow. 'Cause if you're going to draw like really fast then um the pen won't hold up. So we choose form of current colour uh I think grey is appropriate. Then the line width. I think seven will be nice. Now you'll see my drawing capabilities. These are not very much, but uh Uh, see you have to do it real slow. Earl Collin: Oh Samuel Nitz: Sure. Earl Collin: Ah I was trying to draw a dolphin, but I think his nose has to be a little bit But it's close. Christopher Munoz: I'm thinking about a swordfish. Earl Collin: So what Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: yeah it's Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: this is bit of the swordfish. Yeah, he hasn't got an eye. Michael Newark: Mm-hmm. Earl Collin: Woah. Now we've got another function. We've got the eraser. And then you can undo this easily. Christopher Munoz: Meat. Earl Collin: Ah it's okay. And I've got to write down a few of its characteristics. Uh is They've got no text tool, no. Uh. Earl Collin: Okay. This is typically a undo action, I think. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: Pen. Maybe you have to hold it a bit upside-down. I think that's it because if you wan ar are going to do it like this then it will be a stripe. But I don't know, I'm just trying. This is not my work, okay. Christopher Munoz: Hmm. Earl Collin: Maybe you have to use Earl Collin: Oh. Earl Collin: Uh. I think it's a it wants to draw a another animal? I don't know. It lives for the fun. So It's my characteristic uh characteristic about the dolphin. It lives for the fun. Christopher Munoz: Okay. Earl Collin: So Samuel Nitz: Okay. Earl Collin: now I'm gonna hand over the pen on the new blank sheet to you. Go Christopher Munoz: Thank Earl Collin: ahead. Christopher Munoz: you. Okay. Gonna use a different line width. Christopher Munoz: There. 'Kay, I'm not much of an artist, but here we go. Earl Collin: Maybe it's easier to draw the smaller line width, I think. Samuel Nitz: Hmm. Earl Collin: Because this is going a lot better than uh I did. Samuel Nitz: A sheep. Christopher Munoz: Mm. Christopher Munoz: Okay. This is my um Hmm. Sheep. Earl Collin: It's nice. Christopher Munoz: With of course Christopher Munoz: little Earl Collin: Uh. Christopher Munoz: blue dot they always get sprayed on their butts. Earl Collin: It's Christopher Munoz: There. Earl Collin: a real dead sheep, yeah. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: For recognition, yeah, I see. Um maybe you can Christopher Munoz: 'Kay. Earl Collin: also write your name somewhere. On just a Christopher Munoz: They are Come on. Christopher Munoz: You have to go really slow when you're writing. Earl Collin: Yeah. Christopher Munoz: They're brilliant animal animals. And that's just a little Christopher Munoz thingy. So. Guess I'll pass the pen to our Samuel Nitz: Okay. Earl Collin: Nice. Christopher Munoz: User Interface Designer. Samuel Nitz: Um I'm just gonna draw its uh head, but mm Let's see. Mm. Samuel Nitz: Uh. Samuel Nitz: Okay. Christopher Munoz: Interesting. Earl Collin: Sweet. Samuel Nitz: Yeah. You know what that is? Or who? Christopher Munoz: A rabbit? Michael Newark: Garfield. Samuel Nitz: Ah okay, Christopher Munoz: Garfield. Samuel Nitz: yeah. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Samuel Nitz: Just a Samuel Nitz: So uh Yeah. That's enough. Um, you say a blank, or Earl Collin: Yeah, just a blank Samuel Nitz: Okay. Earl Collin: sheet. Michael Newark: Well I was gonna draw a cat too, so. I'll just try something else. Earl Collin: No. Michael Newark: Something different than Garfield. Michael Newark: Mine is a bit more skinny. Earl Collin: Yeah, it's Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: pretty skinny cat. Michael Newark: But uh Christopher Munoz: And the most interesting tail. Earl Collin: Is your cat, or did you find him on the street? Michael Newark: Well, it's supposed to be a cat. I like cats because uh they are uh independent. Earl Collin: Ah. Michael Newark: The pen. So. Earl Collin: Okay. That's pretty clear. So everybody knows how to work with the white board now? So Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: if you have any ideas or if you wanna Michael Newark: The Earl Collin: draw Michael Newark: pen. Earl Collin: anything on the white board, just ask and go ahead. It's pretty uh easy. 'Kay. S Christopher Munoz: We're being haunted. Earl Collin: haunted white board. So we've got the tool uh introduction. We move along to the project finance. Um as you can see, we um for our remote control, a selling price is uh twenty five Euros. Our selling price. Uh our profit aim is fifty million Euros. Uh that's the least we have to get from our remote controls, so we have to work together to reach our aims. Uh we can do it international, so we have to focus on different kind of users, different kind of cultures, and different kind of trends as well. Um but that's all in the later stadium. Our production cost um can be maximal twelve and a half Euros, so that's also a point we have to keep in mind, that we won't make remote controls with small televisions inside, and stuff like that. It won't work. So just try to remember these points. Selling price twenty five, profit aims fifty million um, but more important is the int international market we're trying to focus on. And production cost uh maximal twelve and a half Euros. So that's leads us to our little discussion. We've got about five or ten minutes left for discussion. So I'm gonna sit down, I think. It's easier. Christopher Munoz: Yeah, you got a message. Earl Collin: I've got a message. Five minutes. Samuel Nitz: Five Earl Collin: Okay, Samuel Nitz: minutes, okay. Earl Collin: that's uh good timing. Christopher Munoz: So just on a side note, why is it my laptop is only giving Christopher Munoz a black screen? Samuel Nitz: Mm? Earl Collin: Uh maybe you have to say the magic word. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Right. Earl Collin: Does it do anything? Christopher Munoz: No. Earl Collin: Maybe you have to just clap it down? Mm back up again. No slide show. Hmm. Christopher Munoz: It's off now. Earl Collin: It's off. Now you have to put it back o Oh yeah. You'll be okay, I think. Christopher Munoz: Well, it was on, but Earl Collin: Well it's those laptops. Christopher Munoz: Ah, there we are. Earl Collin: Nice. Okay. But so mm does everybody has um experiences with uh remote controls, and I mean not the ordinary mote controls, but also a little bit different ones? Samuel Nitz: Mm. Earl Collin: Like you can use for other? Samuel Nitz: Oh really? Earl Collin: No? Samuel Nitz: Huh. Earl Collin: You? Christopher Munoz: Well, we Michael Newark: No, Samuel Nitz: It's Christopher Munoz: have Michael Newark: Christopher Munoz Christopher Munoz: a Michael Newark: neither. Samuel Nitz: a Christopher Munoz: kind of broad T_V_ at home, and a D_V_D_ player, so we got like a lot of remote controls, one for the T_V_, one for the video recorder, one for the D_V_D_ player. Earl Collin: Ah yeah. Christopher Munoz: And I think it's it would be best to just make one remote control that can operate them all. Earl Collin: Yep. Samuel Nitz: Sure. Earl Collin: Yeah I've Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: I've got one at home. And you can uh program I think eight different devices in it, and you can use it for your television, Samuel Nitz: Okay, yeah. Earl Collin: anything else. Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: And it also operates on infra-red, so you have to got the little device inside your room, and then you can operate it from the third or th or Samuel Nitz: Okay, Earl Collin: second Samuel Nitz: yeah. Earl Collin: floor. Christopher Munoz: Oh really. Earl Collin: So Samuel Nitz: Hmm. Earl Collin: that's pretty handy when you have a video recorder or D_V_D_ player downstairs and Samuel Nitz: Oh. Earl Collin: you've got a link to your T_V_ on the second floor. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Samuel Nitz: Mm-hmm. Earl Collin: So that's a pretty handy um thing. Um but only the I think that if you can put different kind of devices in one remote control, it makes it a lot easier as well. It's Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: uh Samuel Nitz: Oh. Earl Collin: That's good to remember. Christopher Munoz: So I think you can take minutes again. Earl Collin: Yeah, that's nice, I think. Christopher Munoz: Since it's your job. Earl Collin: So we've we want different functions Christopher Munoz: Yeah. Earl Collin: uh and we can maybe see if we can do something with the infra-red. But I don't know if that will exceed the production costs. So that Samuel Nitz: Mm. Earl Collin: uh that's something we have to find out, I think. Christopher Munoz: Yeah. But that would be really good if we could do that. Earl Collin: And other functions for a remote control? Maybe we can make Christopher Munoz: Um. Earl Collin: it Samuel Nitz: Mm-hmm. Earl Collin: uh uh Christopher Munoz: Think it has to be shock proof Samuel Nitz: Sure, yeah. Christopher Munoz: 'cause Earl Collin: Shock proof. Christopher Munoz: my remote control tends to Samuel Nitz: Waterproof, Christopher Munoz: fall a lot. Samuel Nitz: or uh Christopher Munoz: So Samuel Nitz: Uh, Earl Collin: Sure. Samuel Nitz: you never no know uh, I w I mean uh Earl Collin: Waterproof. Okay. So these are our um a few things we can think of. Um I will put the minutes from this meeting uh in our project folder. Samuel Nitz: 'Kay. Christopher Munoz: Yeah, one other little thing. Thought it might be handy to put a battery status display on it. So Earl Collin: That's Christopher Munoz: you can Earl Collin: a Christopher Munoz: see Earl Collin: battery stays. Samuel Nitz: Okay, yeah. Christopher Munoz: how much is left in the battery. But they'll also really drag up the production costs, so Earl Collin: Yeah. Christopher Munoz: think we'll have to see about that too. Samuel Nitz: Mm. Earl Collin: Uh. Christopher Munoz: But maybe just a little LED, I don't know. Earl Collin: That's an idea as well. Other ideas? Quick ideas. Michael Newark: Nope. They were all Samuel Nitz: Mm. Michael Newark: mentioned, so Earl Collin: Okay. Samuel Nitz: Yeah. Earl Collin: Any questions about this uh presentation? Kick off presentation. Christopher Munoz: Um. Nope, don't think so. Earl Collin: No? Okay, then I'll put the minutes from this meeting in the project folder, and then we can all work. Finish meeting now. Christopher Munoz: Okay. Earl Collin: Okay. And Christopher Munoz: Aye Earl Collin: we Christopher Munoz: sir. Earl Collin: can all work uh on our own projects. Earl Collin: Okay then I'll meet you in about a Christopher Munoz: Half an Earl Collin: half Christopher Munoz: hour. Earl Collin: an hour, I think. Michael Newark: Okay. Samuel Nitz: Okay. Christopher Munoz: Okay. Earl Collin: So good luck. Samuel Nitz: Yep.	Earl Collin introduced himself to the team and then acquainted the team with the audio and video equipment in the meeting room. Earl Collin briefly described the company the team works for and discussed the corporate website. Earl Collin then described the upcoming project and the roles of each team member. Earl Collin introduced the smart boards to the team and led the team members in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and described why they liked the animal. Earl Collin briefed the team on the project budget and selling prices for the remote they are to create and led them in a discussion on their experiences with remote controls and what features they would like to include in their product.	3	amisum	train
Timothy Loper: Okay. Everybody found his place again? Yeah John Hayes: Yes. Timothy Loper: That's? nice. Okay so this is our second meeting. And uh still failing? John Hayes: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Uh now we're going um into the functional design. Um important thing of this phase is that we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements, technical function design, and the working design. So that we can move onto the second uh phase. But first this phase. Um first an announcement. There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system. There's our ghost mouse again. That that means that you can have a little trouble with, little trouble with the air conditioning, that's because of this uh Nicolas Leachman: Okay. John Hayes: Okay. Timothy Loper: It's in wing C_ and E_. So it should be over in a in a while, couple of days. But it's going to be cold anyway, so I don't think you're gonna need it. John Hayes: No. Timothy Loper: Then our agenda. Now first the opening. Uh this time I will take the minutes. Uh you're going to have a presentation. All of you. Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the whole uh presentations. So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation, and then we can have a little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to John Hayes. And then the decision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include. So we've got forty minutes for all of it. So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation. John Hayes: Yes Timothy Loper: Um who wants to be first? John Hayes: Think I'll go first. Timothy Loper: Okay. So Just maybe it's easier if you um Yeah I think you will tell your presentation as well. Just which function you have and what you're gonna talk about. John Hayes: 'Kay. My name is Freek Van Ponnen. I'm the Market Expert. But you already knew that. Um I've done some research. We have we uh have been doing research in a usability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls. Uh we let them fill out a questionnaire. We had one hundred of these uh test subjects. Uh in we did research. Uh see what market consists of ages are involved. Well these are three quite astonishing results, I thought. Um remotes are being considered ugly. F uh seventy five percent of the um people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly. Um and an additional eighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control. So Um in addition remotes were not very functional. Fifty percent of the people indicated they only loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. And fifty percent of the people indicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room. So Nicolas Leachman: Mm. John Hayes: some things. Then we did some research to the most relevant functions. Channel selection and volume selection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy. The power button got a nine. And teletext got a six and a half. So these are the most most uh important functions on a remote control. Then there are some one-time use function. That's what I like to call them. That uh audio settings, video settings, and channel settings buttons. Which are not really used very frequently, but are still considered to be of some importance. Um channel selection was also indicated to be used very frequently. One hundred and sixty eight times per hour. Then these are the This is the market. Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six. Um Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control. Um they like to use new f new functions. But they also are very critical. They won't spend their money very easily. So Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of the market. They are not really very interested in features. But they do tend to spend their money a lot easier. Um What I think this indicates for our um design. I think we should make a remote for the future. And this means we would um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five. Uh this also makes up most the biggest part of the market, so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable. Um this would mean we would have to make a fancy design. Um The results also indicated that um about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R_S_ R_S_I_. Um this is certainly something to take into account. And thirty four percent thought that it was hard to learn a n how to operate a new control, remote control. So these are two factors that I think should be included in the design. Besides of course that the remote must look very nice. And the functionality As a lot of people indicated, they only use about ten percent of the buttons, I think we should make very few buttons. Uh this will also be uh beneficial to the design of the remote. Uh I think the most frequently used buttons should be emphasised. Especially the channel selection and audio uh selection buttons. 'Cause they're used most and so they should be robust. They shouldn't break down easily. Um Then as mo as a lot of people indicated that their um remote got lost in the room, it might be and I say might be because it would um certainly boost the uh production costs a lot. But it might be a good idea to make a docking station. And this would, could get a button in it which would send a signal to the remote which would then beep. So you'd know where it is in the room. And in addition to this it could um recharge the batteries in the remote if you put it in. Then um a surprisingly great deal of people w indicated that um an L_C_D_ screen in the remote control would be preferred. This was um mostly people in the age of sixteen to twenty five. But up till forty five it remains feasible. This would also greatly increase the production costs but I think these are just some small factors we could consider. Timothy Loper: Okay. John Hayes: That would be all. Timothy Loper: Thank you. So anybody have um any questions John Hayes: Any questions? Timothy Loper: until now? Nicolas Leachman: Mm-hmm. Timothy Loper: About functional requirements? Dean Pittman: No. Timothy Loper: Okay that's clear. John Hayes: 'Kay. Timothy Loper: Now to the second. Nicolas Leachman: Uh okay. I've been looking at uh the user interface of it. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it. Um Timothy Loper: Yeah you can Nicolas Leachman: Okay. Timothy Loper: take your time. We've got uh Nicolas Leachman: Mm? Timothy Loper: plenty John Hayes: Yeah Timothy Loper: of John Hayes: you should Timothy Loper: time, John Hayes: go to Timothy Loper: so John Hayes: the Nicolas Leachman: Oh. John Hayes: top thingy. Nicolas Leachman: Uh. John Hayes: Slide show. Oh Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Okay. Timothy Loper: There it is. Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Um yeah. I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control. Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and not much information about it, Um about uh interface but uh Uh Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control. Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D_V_D_ uh uh television, uh stereo. So um But uh it must be uh user-friendly. So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh Yeah. Uh uh uh Yeah. In one um remote Timothy Loper: One Nicolas Leachman: control. Timothy Loper: remote. Nicolas Leachman: But um Yeah. Um yeah. Got uh many functions in one uh remote control, um but um yeah you can see, this is uh quite simple uh remote control. Um few uh buttons but uh This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons. Um uh people uh don't like it, uh so um Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are. So uh like uh the on-off uh button. Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button. Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that. Um My personal uh preferences um. Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device. So um Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um Nicolas Leachman: Uh this the remote control uh and uh you got here the general functions, uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh I dunno um And um here you've got a s kind of a display. It's a touchscreen. So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D_V_D_ player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh. And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device. So um this button is for a D_V_D_ or So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons. So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device. So Timothy Loper: Hmm. Nicolas Leachman: uh that's uh my uh idea about it. Timothy Loper: 'Kay. Nicolas Leachman: Um yeah and Uh let's see. Uh yeah. So a touchscreen. Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um. We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah. Everybody uh have to use it so Uh ol even even old people um young people. So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large. So uh Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Um Yeah. Uh yeah. That was uh my uh Timothy Loper: Okay. Nicolas Leachman: part of it. So Timothy Loper: Anybody has questions about the technical functions? Dean Pittman: Well I think if we are gonna a uh we're gonna above the twelve and a half Euros. Nicolas Leachman: N Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: I I don't think so. Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen. Timothy Loper: Touchscreen. Nicolas Leachman: S um it's uh not uh in colour or something. Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah. Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago. Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh for uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh. Timothy Loper: Huh. Nicolas Leachman: So John Hayes: Hmm. Nicolas Leachman: it's possible. Timothy Loper: 'Kay. That's nice. John Hayes: Well it would Timothy Loper: Uh John Hayes: certainly make a fancy design. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: But John Hayes: So Dean Pittman: the It wouldn't be very robust. It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it. John Hayes: That is true. Timothy Loper: That's Nicolas Leachman: Yeah that's true. John Hayes: We Timothy Loper: right. John Hayes: would have Timothy Loper: Uh John Hayes: to look into that. Timothy Loper: maybe we can first um listen to your presentation? Uh Nicolas Leachman: Uh. John Hayes: Yeah. Dean Pittman: That's. Timothy Loper: And then we have a little discussion about the requirements and uh Dean Pittman: Okay. Timothy Loper: design. Timothy Loper: I think it's going to Uh it's not too much. Okay. Dean Pittman: Okay I've got a presentation about the working design. Um first about how it works. It's really simple of course. Everybody knows how a remote works. The user presses a button. The remote determines what button it is, The T_V_ switches to the frequency, or what function it is. So we've got um the the plate. It gots conductive disks for every button. When the user presses a button, a signal got sent, goes to the LED and transmits tranmi transmits its to the T_V_. It's a very simple device, technically speaking. So this is a schematic overview. You've got the buttons. The power source. And uh when a button gets pressed, its goes to the chip. The chip uh controls the infrared bulb and perf perhaps a normal bulb. When you press a button you can actually see your pressed button. Well um I think we should use default materials, simple plastics. Keep the inner workings simple, so it's robust. Uh I think we should focus on aesthetics, the design and the user interface, because if you're going to use high-tech materials the price is going to go sky-high. And uh you only have to design a remote once, and if you use high-tech materials it come back in every product. So it's, in my idea, it's uh it's gonna be smart to invest in di in design and not in uh in the product itself. That's it. Timothy Loper: Okay. Thank you. Timothy Loper: Okay. Uh Okay now I hope everybody has a little bit more insight in the functions we all have and what we are doing right now. Um I'm Timothy Loper so I'm here to mess things up and uh tell you some new uh requirements. Um that's, we've uh got to design a um remote which is only suitable for T_V_. Um that's because Nicolas Leachman: Okay. Timothy Loper: uh it will be too complex and the time to market will be too big, if we wanna have it uh for more functions. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: So it has to be simple. Uh another point is we have to skip the teletext, because in the world of uh upcoming internet uh we think teletext is going to be uh a thing of the past. And uh it's a function we don't need in our remote control. Um internet is also mentioned in a function we can use. Uh maybe also on televisions it will be available as well. Another one is uh the customer is uh forty plus. Uh that's the the market we have to to to target, because we are going to develop a new product which is specially designed for the younger customers. Um this is uh a bit pity for the Marketing uh Expert. Because he was uh aiming on the the younger persons. So we have to find a market which is above forty plus uh but which will suit our uh remote control, and the other way round. And we have to be very uh attent in uh putting the corporate image uh in our product. So it has to be visible in our design, in the way our device works. And uh we have to be uh very clear on this point as well. So I suggest let's have a discussion on the control functions. Yeah. John Hayes: So is there any discussion possible about the new product requirement? Timothy Loper: Uh we can see if we can find a way uh between the functions we wanna use and the market we wanna reach with our product. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: Um John Hayes: Yeah 'cause you're you're saying that teletext is gonna be an old feature and it's not gonna be used anymore anyway pretty soon. And new T_V_s will have internet access on them. John Hayes: within the next like twenty years is very slim. In Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: addition people indicated that teletext simply was an important feature for the remote control. So I think it's pretty dumb to put no teletext feature on it. I'm pretty much against it. Timothy Loper: Against the no Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: teletext? John Hayes: Yes. Timothy Loper: Um John Hayes: Besides that, I think the market for forty plus is like pretty small. But Timothy Loper: Yeah John Hayes: I mean if Timothy Loper: it's John Hayes: I Timothy Loper: it John Hayes: s if Timothy Loper: is John Hayes: I see Nicolas Leachman: forty John Hayes: this, it's I think we're just gonna go for another Timothy Loper: Standard remote. John Hayes: pretty Timothy Loper: No I think John Hayes: and Timothy Loper: we can John Hayes: not innovative Timothy Loper: I think John Hayes: remote Timothy Loper: we John Hayes: control. Timothy Loper: can do a lot with the design and the simple buttons which were also mentioned. Uh if we put a lot of effort in those, we can make a remote control with uh just two or three buttons. Or just a remote which is suitable for the market we wanna reach because Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: it is forty percent of the market. And um if you look in Holland at the whole generation of forty plus, fifty plus, it it's the the biggest share of the of the whole population now. John Hayes: Yes but it's not the biggest part of the market. Timothy Loper: No. John Hayes: And besides that, they're not very critical so I mean they don't really care what the remote control is like. They'll just pretty much take the first thing they see and which looks acceptable. Timothy Loper: But don't you think that Timothy Loper: people think that's the the device I've looked for although I didn't realise it. So let's try it. John Hayes: No. I think that would be the case in the sixteen to forty five age category. because they are critical and they they want to have a fancy remote control. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: People of forty plus, I mean they want it to work, but as soo as soon as it works it's okay with them. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: I think that if John Hayes: So Dean Pittman: we're If we put our marketing right um we can sell this just like um I don't know if you've heard about it in the news, the the elderly mobile phone? Timothy Loper: Yeah. It's a big success. Dean Pittman: Yeah if we John Hayes: I haven't Dean Pittman: if we John Hayes: heard Dean Pittman: make Timothy Loper: Very John Hayes: of Dean Pittman: a Timothy Loper: big Dean Pittman: remote John Hayes: it. Timothy Loper: success. Dean Pittman: control just Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: l with that idea in mind, we could make tons of money, I think. John Hayes: Hmm. Timothy Loper: Uh. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Dean Pittman: We Timothy Loper: I Dean Pittman: don't have Timothy Loper: think Dean Pittman: to focus Timothy Loper: so as well. Dean Pittman: on on on the on the design then but on functionality. We just change our focus on the project, and I think we can uh we can sell this. Timothy Loper: Uh I simply think um uh that the new products we are gonna make, uh spef specifically design, are designed for uh younger people, uh so maybe we can focus ourself on the elderly people. And I think we have to um see what requirements we need for those um remote controls. 'Cause what you told is the channel selection is important. John Hayes: Yes. Timothy Loper: Volume selection, Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: power and teletext. John Hayes: Yes. Timothy Loper: Okay. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Um John Hayes: But obviously the board tends to disagree. Timothy Loper: No we we haven't voted yet, so Uh I think teletext can be uh um can be a function as well. But only if uh if it won't higher the the cost, because I don't know if it will be a lot more money to implement teletext as well, but I don't think it will be a problem. Or is teletext Nicolas Leachman: But Timothy Loper: a Nicolas Leachman: um deaf people need uh teletext for uh for Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: subtitles. John Hayes: Yeah, also. Nicolas Leachman: So it's Yeah. Timothy Loper: Yeah. So I suggest John Hayes: I think Timothy Loper: uh John Hayes: it'd definitely Nicolas Leachman: It's John Hayes: be a bad idea not to include Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: teletext. Timothy Loper: Is anybody um really against teletext? Dean Pittman: No. Timothy Loper: No? Just that, that we just keep the teletext. I think that's a good idea as well, especially for the subtitles. Maybe we can make that um another point of advantage in our remote control, if we uh make a k a button ex for example for big subtitles, which is instantly on the remote control. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah Timothy Loper: For elderly Nicolas Leachman: yeah. Timothy Loper: people they can think, oh I wanna have subtitles, and they push the button and they get the big subtitles. Dean Pittman: Uh that's Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Dean Pittman: a good idea. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Um so I think teletext can v can be very useful in our advantage. Um Functionality should be few buttons, you said. John Hayes: Yes. Timothy Loper: I think Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: uh that's very important we have a few buttons. John Hayes: Mm-hmm. Timothy Loper: So to keep it John Hayes: But Timothy Loper: simple. John Hayes: I don't think that's really an issue any more 'cause Well might be. Nicolas Leachman: If it's John Hayes: But I mean Nicolas Leachman: only John Hayes: it, Nicolas Leachman: for John Hayes: if Nicolas Leachman: televi John Hayes: it's only for T_V_ Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: you're not gonna need a lot of buttons Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: anyway. You Timothy Loper: No. John Hayes: need a one to zero button, Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: next channel, previous channel, volume up, volume down, and some teletext buttons but Timothy Loper: Yeah. But John Hayes: I Timothy Loper: do John Hayes: think Timothy Loper: you John Hayes: if Timothy Loper: need Nicolas Leachman: So John Hayes: you Nicolas Leachman: we John Hayes: if you only Nicolas Leachman: can s John Hayes: l Nicolas Leachman: we can skip the display, so uh we Timothy Loper: But Nicolas Leachman: don't need it. John Hayes: Nah. Timothy Loper: do you need the buttons for one to zero. Maybe Nicolas Leachman: Uh Timothy Loper: c John Hayes: Think Timothy Loper: we can John Hayes: if you're gonna include teletext you do. I think many people like to use that. Timothy Loper: Maybe we John Hayes: 'Cause Timothy Loper: can Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: if Timothy Loper: use John Hayes: you should, Timothy Loper: uh John Hayes: if you want to switch from channel one to like thirty five, you don't wanna push the next channel button thirty Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. John Hayes: five times. Timothy Loper: No, maybe we can implement the scroll button? Or a joystick Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: like? There are other ways too. Just look if you look at telephones. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: The Sony telephone has a scroll Nicolas Leachman: Mm-hmm. Timothy Loper: button which is very useful in Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: searching names or John Hayes: That's true but um I don't think there are many T_V_s that can switch channels that fast. And so you would need like the T_V_ would need an a function where you can actually view all channels and scroll through it. And I dunno if many channels would do have that. If many T_V_s have that. Dean Pittman: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Dean Pittman: And besides that it's um If we're gonna focus on elderly people they'll have to adapt. They're not used to using scroll buttons. Timothy Loper: That's Dean Pittman: So Timothy Loper: right. John Hayes: Mm-hmm. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Dean Pittman: perhaps we should s stick to the basic layout. Timothy Loper: the numbers yeah. Yeah they can see how much buttons there are going to be on on the display, and if it's too much we can uh reconsider it. But I think Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: there won't be very much buttons. Or there don't John Hayes: But Timothy Loper: have to be John Hayes: I don't Timothy Loper: a lot. John Hayes: think I think if you're gonna make a remote control only to operate a T_V_, you there's not much you can gain on um having as few buttons as possible. 'Cause I think there are pretty many remote controls that can only operate a T_V_, which already only have the minimum number of buttons. I don't think there's much to be gained in that area. Timothy Loper: The Nicolas Leachman: Hmm. Timothy Loper: number of buttons? John Hayes: Yeah. Timothy Loper: I think it's very important in the in the design. You can make a very fancy design uh with putting the buttons on the right places. And if you have less buttons you can do a lot more with John Hayes: That is true but I think there's simply not much to gain on the competition when you when you're making a remote control only for to operate only the T_V_. Timothy Loper: To operate only John Hayes: 'Cause Timothy Loper: the T_V_ John Hayes: if you have Timothy Loper: yeah. John Hayes: a a remote control only to operate a T_V_ there's simply not a lot of buttons required. There's not a lot of functions required so most existing remote controls simply don't have a lot of buttons either. Timothy Loper: No. Nicolas Leachman: No. Timothy Loper: So. John Hayes: So I think it would be very hard to actually gain on the competition here. Timothy Loper: 'Kay. So we John Hayes: That would Timothy Loper: can John Hayes: that would cost a a big marketing expedition Timothy Loper: Yeah. That's right. John Hayes: which was one of the arguments to make it only for the T_V_ because we didn't have the time to market a lot. Timothy Loper: Yeah. So you suggest we could better um focus on for example the docking station. Uh uh like other functions. Instead John Hayes: Maybe. Timothy Loper: of f of less buttons. John Hayes: Well yeah I think, mean we obviously need a good way to position all the buttons and But I don't think we should spend very much time in that. Timothy Loper: Mm. No. Do you think the docking station will uh is allowed in the budget we have? Dean Pittman: It should be possible yes. Timothy Loper: 'Cause it Dean Pittman: If it's Nicolas Leachman: No. Timothy Loper: can Dean Pittman: not Timothy Loper: be Dean Pittman: too fancy. And Timothy Loper: No. Dean Pittman: if the remote stays rather small, it should be possible yeah. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: No. Timothy Loper: Because I think that's uh That's a good advantage point as well. If we have a fancy-looking Dean Pittman: Yes. Timothy Loper: docking station or very Nicolas Leachman: Hmm. Timothy Loper: That's a nice requirement. Docking station. Dean Pittman: So we're just gonna focus on the extras? Timothy Loper: I think so. Dean Pittman: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. John Hayes: Yeah I think maybe we should do some research into what elderly people like to have in a Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: like to have extra in a new remote control. Timothy Loper: That's a good point. Um You said they easily get lost as well. John Hayes: Yes well fifty percent of the people indicated that remote Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: control tended to get lost. Timothy Loper: So maybe we should implement the audio sign, or something. John Hayes: Yeah that was what I suggested. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: Like with John Hayes: You Dean Pittman: your John Hayes: have it Dean Pittman: key-chain, John Hayes: on Dean Pittman: if you Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: whistle it goes John Hayes: Yeah Dean Pittman: uh it makes Nicolas Leachman: Hm. Dean Pittman: a sound. John Hayes: you have it's on some phones too, which have a docking station. Dean Pittman: Yeah. John Hayes: And you just press a button and the phone goes ringing. Timothy Loper: Yeah. So John Hayes: So you know where it is. Timothy Loper: audio signal should be possible as well. I think it's not too expensive. Nicolas Leachman: No. Timothy Loper: Uh another point is the L_C_D_ screen. Um I don't know if that will rise the cost too much, Dean Pittman: Y Timothy Loper: because Dean Pittman: i um I think we'll have to choose between the docking station or the screen, 'cause Timothy Loper: Yeah. Dean Pittman: it's uh Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: It will be too much as well. John Hayes: I think since a lot of people indicated that a new remote control is hard to learn, and we're focusing on elderly people here which tend to have a hard time understanding new devices, it might be a good idea to have just a little screen on it, which would explain a button if you press it. Which would tell you what it does. Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: And it wouldn't have to be touchscreen or Timothy Loper: Based. John Hayes: a very expensive Nicolas Leachman: Okay. John Hayes: screen, but Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Just the L_C_D_. Oh just the normal screen. John Hayes: Just a small Timothy Loper: That's a good John Hayes: screen Timothy Loper: idea. John Hayes: with two Timothy Loper: So Some extra info. Feedback. John Hayes: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: I think that's a good idea as well. John Hayes: But I dunno if that would Timothy Loper: As the small John Hayes: that would Timothy Loper: screen. John Hayes: fit into the costs. Timothy Loper: Extra button info. I think that should be possible as well. Um let's see what did we say. Mm. More. Should be fancy to, fancy design, easy to learn. Few buttons, we talked about that. Docking station, L_C_D_. Um general functions Yeah. 'Kay. And default materials. I think that's a good idea as well, because um elderly people don't mind if it's a titanium cover or just a plastic one. So John Hayes: No. Timothy Loper: that Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: doesn't really matter. So I think John Hayes: I think Timothy Loper: we John Hayes: probably Timothy Loper: nee John Hayes: elderly people would be a little bit more careful with their remote controls than youngsters. Timothy Loper: Uh let's um specify the target group. Because are we talking about elderly elderly people or people from forty to eighty. Because I think what we're going to design now is for people above sixty, maybe. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. John Hayes: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Uh what do we want? John Hayes: I think Timothy Loper: If we want um a with uh for example the the telephone for elderly people, we can target the real elderly people. John Hayes: I think that would be a If we should do something like that it would be a, I think it would be really good for uh for the image of the company. Timothy Loper: Yeah. John Hayes: And I think, I think there would be a good market for it. Timothy Loper: So that's John Hayes: If Timothy Loper: the John Hayes: we're able to really bring an innovative product. Timothy Loper: Now you're talking about sixty to eighty for example. John Hayes: Yeah the really Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Mm. John Hayes: But Timothy Loper: Sixty. John Hayes: I'd have to look into that a little more. Timothy Loper: Okay. And different cultures. Are we Dean Pittman: Well I don't think they have different television sets uh Nicolas Leachman: Mm. Timothy Loper: Okay. Dean Pittman: in uh every country. Timothy Loper: No. Nicolas Leachman: No. Dean Pittman: 'Cause Timothy Loper: We've got five minutes Nicolas Leachman: So Timothy Loper: left just Nicolas Leachman: 'Kay. Timothy Loper: now. John Hayes: 'Kay. Timothy Loper: Small warning. John Hayes: And with uh the little screen in it, which explains the buttons. Timothy Loper: Should John Hayes: You could I think we n it would be a lot easier to adapt it to different cultures. Timothy Loper: Yeah. In different languages, you John Hayes: Yeah. Timothy Loper: know. Dean Pittman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Yeah. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: or you have to put a Nicolas Leachman: Right. Timothy Loper: language button in it, but that will be Nicolas Leachman: No. Timothy Loper: a bit unnecessary Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: I think. John Hayes: Yeah. Timothy Loper: It's better to put it on different markets with it all. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Dean Pittman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: Okay. So that's the the target. Uh then a few small things. Uh okay. I will put the minutes in the project uh project document folder. Um what we're going to do for the next meeting is Dean Pittman will do the components concept, User Interface Designer the user interface concept, and the trend-watching. So just keep in mind the things we've said about the target group, uh requirements, and the trends which are uh going on. And uh specific instructions will be sent to you by uh the personal coach. John Hayes: 'Kay. Timothy Loper: So um I thank you for this meeting. And I think we have a lunch-break now. John Hayes: That's good. Nicolas Leachman: Yeah. Timothy Loper: So that's a good thing.	Timothy Loper stated the agenda and John Hayes discussed what functions are most relevant on a remote, what the target demographic is, and what his vision for the appearance of the remote is. John Hayes also brought up the idea to include a docking station to prevent the remote from getting lost and the idea to include an LCD screen. Nicolas Leachman pushed for a user-friendly interface with large buttons, a display function, a touchscreen, and the capability of controlling different devices. Dean Pittman discussed the interior workings of a remote and Timothy Loper briefed the team on some new requirements they are to abide by. The team then discussed teletext, the target demographic, the buttons the remote should have, the idea of marketing a remote designed for the elderly, an audio signal which can sound if the remote is lost, LCD screens, and language options.	3	amisum	train
Kevin Benning: Okay. Uh good afternoon. Leonard Hepler: Good afternoon. Kevin Benning: This is our third meeting already. I hope you enjoyed your lunch. I did anyway. Um let's see. Presentation three. Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. It's the conceptual design meeting. And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. Uh conceptual specification of design. And also trend-watching. Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations going show Leonard Hepler in a few minutes. Um but first I'll show you the agenda. Uh first the opening. Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. How we're going to make it. And then we're closing. We have about forty minutes. Uh so I suggest let's get started. Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation? No? Edward Elliott: No. Kevin Benning: Everything fine? That's nice. Then a little uh thing about the last meeting. Uh these are the points um we agreed on. The requirements and the target market. Uh requirements are uh teletext, docking station, audio signal, small screen, with some extras that uh button information. And we are going to use default materials. Um does somebody have any comments on these requirements? Maybe? No? These are just the the things we thought of, so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else, just let Leonard Hepler know. And maybe we can uh work it out. And we're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers. So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing, um I suggest let's get started with the presentations. So shall we keep the same uh line-up as uh last time? Leonard Hepler: Sure. Kevin Benning: Okay. Leonard Hepler: I'll start off then. Kevin Benning: Good luck. Leonard Hepler: Doh. Leonard Hepler: 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days. Um we've done some market research. We distributed some more enquetes, questionnaires. And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends. And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers, after the original trend-watchers return, about what the the best design would be. Um okay these are some overall findings. Um most important thing is the fancy design. Um the research indicated that that was by far the most important factor. Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancy design. By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls. Um about half of, half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use. Um for our um group, we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old, this is um, these factors are slightly more equal. 'Kay these are some more group specific findings. Uh the older people prefer dark colours. Uh they like recognisable shapes, and familiar material. And our surveys have indicated that especially wood is pretty much the material for older people. Um this is, this image will give you a little bit of an impression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have. Um this leads us to some personal preferences. Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the in the room. Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs. Just keep it simple and Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest, because this would be the These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control. So this would be very important that we at least include these features. Um well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be, the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped. So you could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station. This is not really This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people. So they would prefer uh a design where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station. So it would be kinda more telephone-shaped. Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions, one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel, and one with a grey-black colour. The wood-like for the more uh exclusive people. People with more money. Uh the grey-black colour for well people with less means. That would be all. Kevin Benning: Okay. Thank you. Any questions about the Leonard Hepler: Any Kevin Benning: the trends? Leonard Hepler: questions? Kevin Benning: Mayb Edward Elliott: Mm no. Kevin Benning: No? Okay, we go on to the next one. Edward Elliott: Um 'kay um. uh some uh research uh a about um designing of an interface. Um the uh last meeting uh we had a about um uh using a f few buttons. So uh um uh that's w what I what I want to uh uh to do in uh our design. So um finding an attractive uh way to control uh the remote control. Um the uh I found some uh something about uh speech uh recognition. So maybe uh we uh uh that. Uh and uh using a little uh display. So um findings. Um yeah just um we have just to focus on the primary um functions. So uh only uh buttons uh for uh sound, um for uh on-off, um uh shifting u up uh sa uh ca channel or uh down shifting down. Um uh let's see. Um yeah and Uh we uh need some uh new a attractive functions uh uh which attract uh uh people for using it. So uh it's uh like a speak uh speech uh recognition and um a special button for selecting uh subtitles. Just uh what we uh mentioned uh last uh meeting. Um and yeah overall um user-friendly. So uh using uh large large buttons. Um It's uh possible to uh uh to make um quite cheap uh system for uh speech uh recognition. Um you can think about um uh when you lost your um remote control, you can uh call it and um it gives an um sig signal. So uh uh yeah. And and uh for uh shifting up a sen uh c ch channel or uh for um uh putting out uh sound or something, you can uh just give a sign uh say um sound off or A and uh yeah. Television uh put the sound off uh put the sound off uh. Um Let's see. Uh yeah. I was thinking about the special uh button for uh subtitles, um just one button to keep it uh simple. Uh one push on the button uh you get uh uh small uh subtitles. Um double push push um, if double click, um so uh you get uh big uh subtitles, for uh people uh um uh which c f uh who can't uh read small uh subtitles. So uh Um Yeah and w we have to keep uh in general buttons uh so um we've got um the buttons we have to use. The on-off, sound on-off, sound higher or lower, um the numbers, uh zero to uh uh nine. Um the general buttons m more general b one button for shifting up and shifting down uh channel. Um also we want to uh use a little d display uh for um for displaying the uh the functions of the buttons. And um we can uh build in a function f which uh shows the channel or some uh which the t television is on. So um made a little uh picture of uh it. Um See. Um yeah. Just um we can put uh the on-off button uh over in this uh corner, um almost uh e all uh remote controls uh are using a on-off button on that place. Um so uh people uh will uh recognise uh um the button. So um D display uh of it, it's uh just a small display. Uh um you can put it uh on top. Um it's uh most uh uh place where people uh, most of looks at. So uh um and a special uh button for shifting up uh and uh shifting down uh channel, um it's uh on place where um the thumb of of the So you you can uh easily uh shift up or shift down. Um it's uh quite uh handy place. So um and uh all the f functions for subtitle uh one button, uh for sound uh Uh and uh for our design, um uh we have to discuss about it uh I think uh so uh the form of it so Kevin Benning: Okay. Edward Elliott: And that's it. Kevin Benning: Uh thank you. John Dellapenna: Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or, a as an optional thing, a kinetic energy, like in a watch, which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option, the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing, uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing, single or double curved casing. we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement, we could um, I thought of that l later, uh a rubber uh belt, like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons, we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set, um it says simple here, but it should be advanced, because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed, um people like wood, but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image, unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case, uh the supplement and the buttons, it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it. Kevin Benning: Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm. 'Kay. Kevin Benning: So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source, since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price, uh and image. Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy John Dellapenna: Yes Kevin Benning: in our John Dellapenna: w Kevin Benning: budget, John Dellapenna: there Kevin Benning: I think. John Dellapenna: there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery. Kevin Benning: Yeah. John Dellapenna: Uh a hand dynamo. But I don't think that's really an option. Kevin Benning: Okay. John Dellapenna: You don't wanna swing before you can watch television. Kevin Benning: Yeah. John Dellapenna: Uh solar cells. But not every room is very Edward Elliott: Mm. John Dellapenna: light so it's Kevin Benning: No. John Dellapenna: not a very good option. Or the kinetic energy. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Okay. Leonard Hepler: And how exactly does the kinetic energy work? John Dellapenna: Well Leonard Hepler: You John Dellapenna: y Leonard Hepler: just John Dellapenna: you basically shake your Leonard Hepler: You John Dellapenna: remote, Leonard Hepler: use it and John Dellapenna: and Leonard Hepler: it John Dellapenna: then it Leonard Hepler: works. John Dellapenna: powers up. Yeah. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Okay. Edward Elliott: Nah. Leonard Hepler: Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it. John Dellapenna: Yeah. That's true. Leonard Hepler: And besides that you mentioned it would make the docking station obsolete. John Dellapenna: Oh. Leonard Hepler: And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can um get great popularity for our product. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: But Leonard Hepler: Um Edward Elliott: what's Leonard Hepler: wel Edward Elliott: the function? Yeah f for loading up uh the batteries. Leonard Hepler: Yeah you could load Edward Elliott: B Leonard Hepler: up the Edward Elliott: b Leonard Hepler: batteries, you could um insert the find the lost remote control function in there. Edward Elliott: Okay but uh it won't use uh much e energy uh I I believe. Uh it's uh just a small display so I believe uh it will run on one battery for um six months or f or or more. So Kevin Benning: Uh Edward Elliott: I believe one battery uh is just enough. Uh so Kevin Benning: Uh well I think Leonard Hepler: That's true. Kevin Benning: uh elderly people just like to have everything in place. And I don't think they they like uh remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms. Edward Elliott: Okay. Kevin Benning: So maybe a docking station will help them give the remote Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: a Edward Elliott: That's Kevin Benning: place. Edward Elliott: true. Yeah. Kevin Benning: And also what you said. Um you can introduce voice recognition by uh finding back Edward Elliott: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: your remote. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: But I think it's um more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station. So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push, and then it starts beeping. Edward Elliott: Okay. Kevin Benning: And then we can we can still use Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: the voice recognition, but maybe then for only the the channels. Edward Elliott: Uh. Kevin Benning: That's Leonard Hepler: I'm wondering Kevin Benning: safe. Leonard Hepler: um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price? Kevin Benning: Yeah. That's a good John Dellapenna: Mm Kevin Benning: point. John Dellapenna: I don't have any information on pricing. So I'll have to ask the manufacturing department. Edward Elliott: Mm. Leonard Hepler: 'Cause in our earlier um market research, if you'd allow Leonard Hepler to Kevin Benning: Yeah, Leonard Hepler: go Kevin Benning: sure. Leonard Hepler: to the flat board, Kevin Benning: Go Leonard Hepler: SMARTboard. Kevin Benning: ahead. Leonard Hepler: Um so it was open here. Um we also um asked if w they would, if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Well you can see here, our target group would not do that. Kevin Benning: No. Leonard Hepler: So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control Edward Elliott: Mm. Leonard Hepler: I would greatly advise not to do it. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: I think that would be better to uh insert in our other product, that is meant for the Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: younger people. John Dellapenna: But that Edward Elliott: 'Kay. John Dellapenna: would also go for the L_C_D_ screen then I guess. It's a bit higher percentage, but Leonard Hepler: Um well this is Yeah but this is here the question was, would you prefer it. So that doesn't really mean they wouldn't pay extra for it. And on top of that the L_C_D_ screen would um help in making the remote control easier to use. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: And John Dellapenna: Okay. Leonard Hepler: I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much Kevin Benning: Easier Leonard Hepler: easier Kevin Benning: to Leonard Hepler: to use. Kevin Benning: use? No, I think that's a good point. Edward Elliott: But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display, or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use? Leonard Hepler: Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones. Edward Elliott: Okay. Leonard Hepler: So pretty large. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Yeah. I personally think the L_C_D_ screen we wanna use, with the extra information, I think nobody has anything against it. Because Edward Elliott: No. Kevin Benning: it's just uh some extra information, and it's easy to ignore as well. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So if you don't wanna use it you just don't use it. And um yeah I think the um Maybe we have to uh discard the voice recognition. Because it will increase cost uh signifi uh significantly. And I don't think the I don't think it will be a lot easier to use, as well. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So that brings us back to the energy. If we don't have the voice recognition, it will it won't use a lot of energy to use. Edward Elliott: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: Um So in that case we could use kinetic uh energy, but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good. And much cheaper as well. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So John Dellapenna: And that's the best choice. Kevin Benning: Okay let Leonard Hepler just choose for the battery. That brings us to the chip. John Dellapenna: Well there isn't any choice there because Kevin Benning: Just John Dellapenna: we're using Kevin Benning: the advanced. John Dellapenna: the the the the display. So it's gotta be advanced. Kevin Benning: Okay, Leonard Hepler: 'Kay. Kevin Benning: advanced chip. And then we get to the point of the case. Um which brings us a little bit back to marketing as well. Uh if we wanna choose for wood or the black and grey. Or both? Um as we saw there is not Yeah wood is a lot more expensive to produce. Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: Um but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive, which they can show off to their Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: grandkids. Look I've got a new remote Leonard Hepler: Well Kevin Benning: control, Edward Elliott: Uh Kevin Benning: and uh Edward Elliott: I Leonard Hepler: And Edward Elliott: dunno. Leonard Hepler: I think most important factor there is the wooden colour. So it wouldn't actually have to be wood, Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: if it's just Kevin Benning: That's right. Leonard Hepler: wood-coloured. Edward Elliott: Mm. Kevin Benning: But with colour was a lot more expensive? Or? John Dellapenna: Mm I dunno. Kevin Benning: You don't know? John Dellapenna: I'll have to uh Kevin Benning: I think John Dellapenna: research. Kevin Benning: so because Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Probably. Edward Elliott: Mm. Kevin Benning: It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape. Edward Elliott: Uh is it possible uh to make um changeable uh case. So um uh you 'cause uh Yeah with uh mobile phones uh uh so uh like the Nokia Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: mobile phones, uh when you can change the case of it. Kevin Benning: Change Edward Elliott: So Kevin Benning: the cases. Yeah. Edward Elliott: maybe it's possible uh possibility. So um um you have just to make one um standard um remote control, Kevin Benning: You can sell the cases. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Yeah I. think that's a very good option. Because um then you can advertise as well with the Give your grandfather a new case Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: for his remote control, or whatever. Because that's a it's something extra, it's something other remotes don't have, Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: which we can Leonard Hepler: Yeah Kevin Benning: get a great Leonard Hepler: that Kevin Benning: advantage Leonard Hepler: is true. Kevin Benning: point. So and then you can make them with colour. Black and grey, other colours Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: as well. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. We would have to look carefully into the design Kevin Benning: Costs. Leonard Hepler: though. 'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: The more original one, or the more standard one. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: So that would Kevin Benning: So you suggest we should design two different telephones on Leonard Hepler: Well Kevin Benning: which Leonard Hepler: I wouldn't Kevin Benning: you can Leonard Hepler: design Kevin Benning: apply, Leonard Hepler: a telephone but Kevin Benning: yeah remote controls, on which you can apply different case covers, Leonard Hepler: Well no I Kevin Benning: for Leonard Hepler: think Kevin Benning: example. Leonard Hepler: w we should just, we should then just design one um Kevin Benning: Remote. Leonard Hepler: one remote, but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: plastic one. Kevin Benning: Okay. Leonard Hepler: So, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Kevin Benning: So everybody's okay with the changing covers? John Dellapenna: Yes. Kevin Benning: I Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: think that's a good uh good option. Changing case covers. Leonard Hepler: Um I heard our Industrial Designer talk about uh flat, single and double curved. John Dellapenna: Yes. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: explain that a little more? John Dellapenna: Well the the general like most older remotes are flat, just straight. Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. John Dellapenna: And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases. Leonard Hepler: And what would single curved and double curved mean? John Dellapenna: Um it would just only affect the form, for as far as I know. So it's j really just up to the design department what we're gonna use. Leonard Hepler: Okay. John Dellapenna: It doesn't really matter for the price or the functionality. Leonard Hepler: So we can pretty much just John Dellapenna: Pick one Leonard Hepler: do whatever John Dellapenna: you like, Leonard Hepler: we want. John Dellapenna: yes. Kevin Benning: Mm. Leonard Hepler: 'Kay. Kevin Benning: Okay. Leonard Hepler: That's good. Kevin Benning: Uh but the form has to be um It has to It's has to be possible to stand up? Or just only to Leonard Hepler: No Kevin Benning: lie down? Leonard Hepler: just to lie down. Edward Elliott: okay. Kevin Benning: And the the Leonard Hepler: We'll Kevin Benning: cover Leonard Hepler: go for that. Kevin Benning: of the the docking station is also on top of the television then? Or not? Leonard Hepler: Well or besides it. Kevin Benning: And you can just yeah then click it in. That's okay. Um so the interface. What type of interface do we want to use? Um maybe you can make a little drawing of it on the Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: on the the board. Edward Elliott: Mm. Kevin Benning: Does somebody have ideas for a form or Edward Elliott: Uh we can just use the regular form of it, but it's um not quite uh fancy. So um Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Um you uh said you wanted to put the um changing channels button on the right side, so you could, Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: so your thumb would be easily Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Well uh I think that was a very good point 'cause I pointed out earlier that a lot of remotes cause R_S_I_. So that would be great for that. Um I thought maybe we could just make one of those buttons on both the left and the right side. Edward Elliott: For Leonard Hepler: For Edward Elliott: uh Leonard Hepler: left-handed users Edward Elliott: Uh for Yeah yeah. Leonard Hepler: also. Kevin Benning: Yep. Edward Elliott: Mm. Yeah we um Is it possible to um program it s so uh you got on the left side uh or on the right side uh buttons for for shifting u up and shifting up? And on the uh other uh uh o other side uh buttons for uh shifting, uh for for the sound? Leonard Hepler: For the Edward Elliott: Or Leonard Hepler: volume. Edward Elliott: Or isn't Leonard Hepler: Um Edward Elliott: it? Kevin Benning: Mm. Leonard Hepler: well that could Yeah we could do that but I'm not sure if that would be very good for the easy, ease of Kevin Benning: Usabili Leonard Hepler: use. Kevin Benning: Yeah Edward Elliott: Yeah Kevin Benning: ease Edward Elliott: okay. Kevin Benning: of use will be a lot more difficult, and then it's Edward Elliott: Uh. Leonard Hepler: But if we would make um a changing channels and changing volume button on both sides, that would certainly yield great options for the design of the remote. Edward Elliott: Mm. Leonard Hepler: 'Cause it could be made all symmetrical and stuff. Edward Elliott: Yeah but Kevin Benning: But you have extra buttons. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So people can get confused. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: That is true. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Especially if they have the same writings on it. Edward Elliott: See um yeah. Or we have to make a left uh Kevin Benning: Can't Edward Elliott: For Kevin Benning: we make Edward Elliott: lefties Kevin Benning: uh Edward Elliott: and Kevin Benning: Can't we make a remote which you can flip over and use on the same Edward Elliott: Um Kevin Benning: functions as the normal one? Edward Elliott: You mean um Kevin Benning: Then you have Edward Elliott: Yeah Kevin Benning: to Edward Elliott: if Kevin Benning: Let's see if I ca A blank one. And then you get Kevin Benning: Here's a little L_C_D_ screen. Uh now I have to think. Kevin Benning: It's a plus and a min. No it's not very handy I think. Edward Elliott: Mm Kevin Benning: Because Edward Elliott: no. Kevin Benning: the plus and the min will be opposite and Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: all kinds of No that's not gonna work. I guess. Maybe Edward Elliott: Um Kevin Benning: we should Yeah. But is it a problem that left-handed persons use a different hand? I think the functions are that basic that nobody should have any problems with uh Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: choosing a channel Leonard Hepler: That is Kevin Benning: or Leonard Hepler: true. Edward Elliott: Yeah. It's just uh u using uh your thumb. Kevin Benning: Y Edward Elliott: So Kevin Benning: yeah. Edward Elliott: um Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: it's Kevin Benning: I think we could just uh leave it a normal shape. Edward Elliott: Yeah. John Dellapenna: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Uh but maybe we have to make it a l a bit more fancy. In one or ano another way. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Um John Dellapenna: I think we should start by by choosing a case. Because that's the basis Edward Elliott: Yeah John Dellapenna: you're building on. Edward Elliott: yeah. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: Um John Dellapenna: So I could Kevin Benning: yeah John Dellapenna: draw Kevin Benning: just John Dellapenna: them out. Let's look at the flat case. Oh. It's from the side so it's Edward Elliott: Mm-hmm. Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. John Dellapenna: rather normal. Kevin Benning: Yeah. John Dellapenna: The the single curved so I'm not really sure what they're gonna look like, but I think it's something like this. John Dellapenna: So this type should be better for you or better Should prevent Kevin Benning: Easier? John Dellapenna: repetitive strain injury a bit. And the double curved s looks something like this I guess. Edward Elliott: Mm. John Dellapenna: So th those are the three options we have. Kevin Benning: 'Kay. Leonard Hepler: Mm. Kevin Benning: I suggest um the single curved, because maybe the curve is pretty good to put the the screen in. Uh so that elderly people can uh use the remote control and at the same time look easily at the screen, because it's a bit, Edward Elliott: So um Kevin Benning: it has a bit of a angle. Edward Elliott: Do you say this um S uh Uh you got like uh sort of a I believe There? Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Edward Elliott: So um you want to put a display over here? Or not? Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: I think so. Yeah. Edward Elliott: Um Yeah. Kevin Benning: But Edward Elliott: Uh Kevin Benning: now it's Edward Elliott: we can make it Kevin Benning: Do Edward Elliott: um Kevin Benning: you have it upside down or Edward Elliott: Mm? Kevin Benning: Do you Edward Elliott: That's Kevin Benning: have it Edward Elliott: the top. So Kevin Benning: this Edward Elliott: uh Kevin Benning: that's Edward Elliott: this Kevin Benning: top? Edward Elliott: top. This down. Kevin Benning: Okay. Edward Elliott: Um maybe it's possible to uh make this side like um Let's see. Um Colour uh okay. Uh to make this side um like mm the right colour. Um bit like so uh um in the form of your hand. So um Uh it's an Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: So so the remote control have to um lay in your hand. So uh it's possib um yeah for Kevin Benning: So Edward Elliott: s Kevin Benning: get Edward Elliott: so Kevin Benning: your Edward Elliott: and Kevin Benning: mouse. Yeah. Edward Elliott: And to put uh the the buttons for um changing uh the channel uh over here uh Kevin Benning: Yeah. That's a good one. Edward Elliott: Yeah. John Dellapenna: Yeah. Kevin Benning: But I think it's better to put the screen uh on top. Edward Elliott: Uh Kevin Benning: So just Edward Elliott: rem Kevin Benning: flip it a hundred and eighty degrees around then you Edward Elliott: Yeah Kevin Benning: get Edward Elliott: but this place um Kevin Benning: here. If you can have this one, you turn it like this. And then flip it upside down. Edward Elliott: Uh it's Yeah I dunno um Kevin Benning: Because uh maybe your hand is in the way, if you have the display Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: here. John Dellapenna: It's more logical to have it on top as well because, Kevin Benning: I think i Edward Elliott: Yeah John Dellapenna: like on your mobile phone, Edward Elliott: so John Dellapenna: it's always above. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: On top. Edward Elliott: So Kevin Benning: Yeah. John Dellapenna: Oh maybe you should just s start on a blank page. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So then we get Kevin Benning: Here's That's the curve. Edward Elliott: Five minutes. Kevin Benning: Here the display, and then buttons. Yeah and then we can have a little bit off here and here maybe. Just that's for left hand and right hand users. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Mm-hmm. Kevin Benning: And then h the rest of the buttons over Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: here. Edward Elliott: But um the on-off button, um still on the top Kevin Benning: Yeah Edward Elliott: uh Kevin Benning: still Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: here jus Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: That's Leonard Hepler: And I'd prefer the corners to be round. Kevin Benning: Yeah. Edward Elliott: Yeah. 'Kay. Leonard Hepler: Think Kevin Benning: Should Leonard Hepler: that would Kevin Benning: be Leonard Hepler: be Kevin Benning: more Leonard Hepler: better. Kevin Benning: bit more friendly, yeah. Leonard Hepler: Friendly on the eye. Kevin Benning: 'Kay. Supplements. That's okay. Where's my mouse? Then We've got a general idea of the concepts and the materials we're going to use. So now for the next meeting uh we'll have to look at the look-and-feel design. It's important that the corporate design image uh is going to be in the remote. So check out the corporate website maybe. The user interface design, it's the same story. And product evaluation. So John Dellapenna and User Interface Designer are going to work together on this one. But you're going to get your instructions I think sended by the coach. So just um I will put these um minutes on the in the folder. John Dellapenna: Okay. Kevin Benning: And then we're going to uh try to finish our project, and uh make a good design for all the grandfathers and grandmothers, I think. Which are Uh let's see. I'm not sure if you're going to start right away to work together or I think you're going to fill in the questionnaires first. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: And then you'll get a message. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: So that's uh basically it. Maybe this one? Then we can save this one in the folders group. Uh yes, it's here. Leonard Hepler: Yeah. Kevin Benning: SMARTboard, there it it. So if you wanna have a look at it, it's over there in the projects folder. Edward Elliott: Yeah. Kevin Benning: And then I guess we'll start in thirty minutes again. Thank Leonard Hepler: Very Kevin Benning: you. Leonard Hepler: good. John Dellapenna: Okay. Edward Elliott: Okay.	Kevin Benning opened the meeting and recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Leonard Hepler discussed his personal preferences for the design of the remote and presented the results of trend-watching reports, which indicated that there is a need for products which are fancy, innovative, easy to use, in dark colors, in recognizable shapes, and in a familiar material like wood. Edward Elliott discussed the option to include speech recognition and which functions to include on the remote. John Dellapenna discussed which options he preferred for the remote in terms of energy sources, casing, case supplements, buttons, and chips. The team then discussed and made decisions regarding energy sources, speech recognition, LCD screens, chips, case materials and colors, case shape and orientation, and button orientation.	3	amisum	train
Todd Watts: Two. Daniel Barrett: Hello. Charles Frazier: Good Daniel Barrett: Hello. Charles Frazier: morning. Justin Malone: Hello. Ah. Daniel Barrett: You have to put it exactly on the Justin Malone: Plate? Daniel Barrett: on the yeah. Charles Frazier: Okay. Todd Watts: Good morning. Charles Frazier: Good morning. Daniel Barrett: I took Charles Frazier: Should Daniel Barrett: your mouse. Charles Frazier: I bring my uh Daniel Barrett: Yeah Charles Frazier: pen too? Daniel Barrett: just yeah, Charles Frazier: Or Daniel Barrett: no, that's for Justin Malone, I just have to make some notes. Charles Frazier: Okay. Daniel Barrett: I got my uh mouse. Justin Malone: Uh I also Todd Watts: Mouse. Justin Malone: my but I don't need my mouse, I think. Charles Frazier: I do. Daniel Barrett: yeah. Todd Watts: Come on There. we are. Charles Frazier: My laptop is crashing. Justin Malone: Damn computers. Charles Frazier: Cr Charles Frazier: Help help help. Todd Watts: Let's just check one more time. Mm. Justin Malone: Can you hear Justin Malone? Hello? Test. Daniel Barrett: Uh actually my laptop doesn't work, Justin Malone: I dunno. Daniel Barrett: switch it on again. Justin Malone: Check. Daniel Barrett: Oh no. Justin Malone: Okay. I think it works. Charles Frazier: Test test. Yes, it's working. Daniel Barrett: So you all read what we are going to do or not? Justin Malone: Mm-hmm. Daniel Barrett: Okay. Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: We're gonna make a remote control. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, that's Charles Frazier: I Daniel Barrett: right. Charles Frazier: think my laptop is a bit etchy. Daniel Barrett: I just made a a simple uh presentation. So you put some things in it. Okay. Daniel Barrett: How does this work? I dunno. Todd Watts: One uh Charles Frazier: Uh Todd Watts: most Charles Frazier: p Todd Watts: to the right. Yes that one. Daniel Barrett: This one? Todd Watts: Yes. Justin Malone: Press F_ eleven. Daniel Barrett: Ah cool. Okay. So that's my name, Uh we're going to make uh a remote control, you already know that. Just have a look, are we going to uh this agenda of our meeting. You know, this is about twenty five minutes, this meeting. So um the thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do, you also read what this the things or, Todd Watts: Yes. Daniel Barrett: not yet, okay. So um, yeah, it has to be original, trendy, user-friendly that's what we're going to design. Uh first we have uh uh three steps of uh making the the remote control. Fir the first thing is th the functional design, that's very important. We have to look what the needs are, the effects of the functional design, and and how the mm the the remote control works, so that's where we're going to look in the functional design, it's for the f next meeting. The the second thing is the conceptual design, that's what it that's uh the spe the specifications of the components and the properties and the specifications of the user interface. And we have to look what uh the market is doing for what kind of uh remote controls are in the market. And the third thing is uh the detailed design um and that's exa yeah, you know what it is, it's exactly how it looks and whatever. Okay so uh no, this is a these are two smartboards, with the uh f uh s an introduction of that one. And you already saw you know all that that you here can put uh things in the the red project uh map. Justin Malone: Folder, yes. Daniel Barrett: Folder, okay. So no okay have a look at that one. Okay. So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read. You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboard and um and say why it's your favourite animal. So and you have this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen. So okay, so first have to show you, maybe you can come here to have a look how it works. Yes? Justin Malone: Ah I Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: can see Daniel Barrett: Okay. Justin Malone: it now. Daniel Barrett: This a new page, it's okay. Use pen format. and a different colour can use here no I just take the pink. You take oh there's no pink, okay, oh Todd Watts: Purple. Daniel Barrett: just purple, okay. No blue. And uh line width ten. Okay uh just take what I'm going to draw is an elephant. Just draw slowly, because otherwise it won't work. It's a very nice elephant, you can see. I dunno what it looks but it doesn't matter. Todd Watts: Looks very nice. Daniel Barrett: I just h Something like this? Oh no Yeah, Justin Malone: It look Daniel Barrett: okay. Justin Malone: like a dinosaurs. Daniel Barrett: Because I like uh okay. Todd Watts: A pink elephant. Daniel Barrett: Just takes so long, okay. Whatever, just. You erased this one. It's a bit slow you can see, this is a bit annoying. Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Okay, so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want. Justin Malone: Let Daniel Barrett: Just Justin Malone: Justin Malone try one. Daniel Barrett: don't um yeah, just u use it like that, yeah. That's okay. Justin Malone: Okay. Justin Malone: and then uh what's the colour? How do I do Daniel Barrett: It's in format. Yeah. Justin Malone: Ah. I'll take this one. Justin Malone: Uh Daniel Barrett: Just Justin Malone: there has to be water, but Daniel Barrett: No it has to be an animal, so if that's Justin Malone: Yeah Daniel Barrett: it's Justin Malone: yeah, Daniel Barrett: it should Justin Malone: but Daniel Barrett: be a shna Justin Malone: it's an Daniel Barrett: snake Justin Malone: animal Daniel Barrett: or something. Justin Malone: it's an Daniel Barrett: Okay. Justin Malone: animal Daniel Barrett: Okay Justin Malone: that lives Daniel Barrett: okay. Justin Malone: in the water. Todd Watts: The Daniel Barrett: Okay. Justin Malone: So I Charles Frazier: Okay. Justin Malone: first uh draw the water. Todd Watts: water is important. Justin Malone: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal. Justin Malone: It's a fish. Daniel Barrett: Okay, Charles Frazier: Wow. Daniel Barrett: cool. Justin Malone: Mm-hmm. Justin Malone: So. Um This is a worm. Daniel Barrett: Hmm yeah, that's nice. Charles Frazier: Wow. Justin Malone: Okay, who next? Daniel Barrett: Uh Justin Malone: Uh Daniel Barrett: do you have to write down why uh that doesn't matter, just it's to get used to the whiteboard, but it's okay. Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Just make a new blank new blank page. Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: Well Paul? Todd Watts: Yeah. Like this? Daniel Barrett: Yeah, not too far to the to the t pen top. Todd Watts: Okay. Um let's make it um a dog. Todd Watts: Ooh. Daniel Barrett: Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back, so that no, to the yeah. Justin Malone: I Todd Watts: Ah Justin Malone: think Todd Watts: okay. Justin Malone: it's a pig. Todd Watts: A pig? I Daniel Barrett: No, Todd Watts: can Justin Malone: Or Daniel Barrett: it's Todd Watts: make. Justin Malone: a Daniel Barrett: a Justin Malone: dog. Daniel Barrett: dog. Justin Malone: A sheep? Todd Watts: Um Daniel Barrett: Uh we d only have twenty five minutes, so. Charles Frazier: Take it easy. Todd Watts: 'Kay, I make a cat of it. Charles Frazier: I I was gonna make a cat too. Daniel Barrett: Use your fantasy. Todd Watts: Oh, not too quick. Daniel Barrett: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have Todd Watts: No I have it. Daniel Barrett: okay. Todd Watts: I just draw too quick I think. Okay, that's it. More. Daniel Barrett: No, that's okay, thank you. Todd Watts: It's just to get used to it. Charles Frazier: Okay. Daniel Barrett: I thought these pens would be just um uh you write it down and you download it to Word, you already did it or no? Justin Malone: No. Daniel Barrett: No, not yet, Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: okay. Todd Watts: that's right, it but Daniel Barrett: But Todd Watts: you Daniel Barrett: it's Todd Watts: actually Daniel Barrett: just Todd Watts: got to write on the paper. Daniel Barrett: Sorry? Todd Watts: You really got to write on that Daniel Barrett: Yeah, I Todd Watts: paper. Daniel Barrett: know, but Justin Malone: Yeah yeah, Daniel Barrett: I Justin Malone: it's Daniel Barrett: d I Justin Malone: a real pen. Daniel Barrett: I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: Word, so Todd Watts: but it's Daniel Barrett: that's Todd Watts: just Daniel Barrett: not Todd Watts: a picture. Daniel Barrett: just it's just a picture. Justin Malone: Oh. Daniel Barrett: So Todd Watts: You Justin Malone: Y Todd Watts: really Justin Malone: you can Daniel Barrett: th thought it would be. Justin Malone: you can't edit in the edit it in Word. Todd Watts: No. Daniel Barrett: No. Justin Malone: Oh, okay. Todd Watts: It's a donkey. Daniel Barrett: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure. Todd Watts: Uh I think it was uh Daniel Barrett: Half past. Justin Malone: Half past ten. Todd Watts: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: Okay. Justin Malone: Brilliant. Daniel Barrett: Okay, Charles Frazier: Nice, Daniel Barrett: perfect. Charles Frazier: eh? Justin Malone: Yep. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so. Daniel Barrett: Oh this is definitely the best one. Charles Frazier: Uh. Daniel Barrett: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros. Charles Frazier: Excuse Daniel Barrett: Okay, Charles Frazier: Justin Malone. Daniel Barrett: that's. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe. Todd Watts: Piece of cake. Daniel Barrett: The production cost are about half the price of selling price, sorry. Todd Watts: Uh easy. Daniel Barrett: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything, so just have a look how it we think about remote controls. Justin Malone: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control? Daniel Barrett: Oh yeah, that's a good question. Justin Malone: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart. Daniel Barrett: I think it's I'm not Justin Malone: So Daniel Barrett: I'm Justin Malone: I Daniel Barrett: not sure, it's not mm Charles Frazier: Yeah, it probably Daniel Barrett: I think Charles Frazier: would be universal. Todd Watts: Universal. Justin Malone: Because Todd Watts: And only television? Or more devices? Daniel Barrett: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so not sure, but Charles Frazier: Hmm, maybe, Justin Malone: Yeah, I know Charles Frazier: I don't Justin Malone: uh Charles Frazier: know. Justin Malone: you can buy a re a universal uh control Daniel Barrett: Okay, Justin Malone: for Daniel Barrett: so Justin Malone: uh Daniel Barrett: we we just Justin Malone: only twenty Daniel Barrett: say we Justin Malone: uh Daniel Barrett: just Justin Malone: Euros Daniel Barrett: say that's universal remote Justin Malone: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: control. Todd Watts: Ah Justin Malone: I Todd Watts: okay. Justin Malone: think. Daniel Barrett: Okay, perfect. Charles Frazier: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and Daniel Barrett: Yeah, everything just Charles Frazier: okay. Daniel Barrett: so a lot of buttons on the remote control. Charles Frazier: Yeah, probably. Todd Watts: Not just a T_V_. Daniel Barrett: No, just everything. Todd Watts: Okay. Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: so yeah, what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not nothing very special, but um Todd Watts: Well we can try to make it special. Daniel Barrett: yeah, that's right. So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability Todd Watts: Well Justin Malone: Well I Daniel Barrett: or Justin Malone: th Daniel Barrett: user Justin Malone: I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared Daniel Barrett: Hmm yeah. Justin Malone: uh thing must be from very good quality. Daniel Barrett: That's right. Should be a good point. Todd Watts: Yeah. Charles Frazier: Okay. Todd Watts: Nothing Charles Frazier: And how Todd Watts: N Charles Frazier: big should Justin Malone: No. Charles Frazier: it be? Justin Malone: Yeah. I dunno um Todd Watts: It shouldn't be too big, but I don't think we can make it too small, 'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so. Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think. Daniel Barrett: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's Todd Watts: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: that's it. Todd Watts: Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: it opem. Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer, Justin Malone: Yes Todd Watts: maybe more trendy. Daniel Barrett: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can Todd Watts: Fold Daniel Barrett: fold Todd Watts: open, Daniel Barrett: open. Todd Watts: where Daniel Barrett: Okay, Todd Watts: you can see Daniel Barrett: yeah, that's Todd Watts: uh Daniel Barrett: cool. Todd Watts: more options. Justin Malone: Ah that's Todd Watts: I Charles Frazier: Yeah Daniel Barrett: Maybe Todd Watts: think Justin Malone: that's Daniel Barrett: for Charles Frazier: n Daniel Barrett: the D_V_D_ pla player or something, Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: if Todd Watts: something Daniel Barrett: you just Todd Watts: uh Daniel Barrett: okay. Justin Malone: Ah Charles Frazier: Yeah, Justin Malone: right Todd Watts: on Charles Frazier: or Todd Watts: top, Charles Frazier: you c Todd Watts: just dren Justin Malone: right. Todd Watts: general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often. Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Justin Malone: Oh Charles Frazier: O or Justin Malone: that's good, Charles Frazier: you could Justin Malone: yeah. Charles Frazier: th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control. Todd Watts: Yeah b Justin Malone: Yeah. Todd Watts: I wanted Daniel Barrett: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control? Charles Frazier: Uh Daniel Barrett: There are buttons Charles Frazier: maybe Daniel Barrett: on Charles Frazier: be Daniel Barrett: it. Charles Frazier: uh Todd Watts: No Charles Frazier: it's Todd Watts: you can Charles Frazier: it's Todd Watts: make an uh manual in it. Charles Frazier: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small. Daniel Barrett: Okay. Justin Malone: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: But it's Justin Malone: but Daniel Barrett: not Todd Watts: But Charles Frazier: Uh Daniel Barrett: t t Charles Frazier: like Daniel Barrett: t Todd Watts: that's Daniel Barrett: too expensive Charles Frazier: a a to Daniel Barrett: to Charles Frazier: have Daniel Barrett: put a Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: touchscreen Todd Watts: I Justin Malone: Yeah Todd Watts: think Daniel Barrett: on Charles Frazier: Yeah, Todd Watts: it's Daniel Barrett: it. Todd Watts: much Justin Malone: but Charles Frazier: maybe it Todd Watts: uh Charles Frazier: would. Todd Watts: too Justin Malone: it's Todd Watts: expensive. Justin Malone: not reachable I think, touch screen. And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control, Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Justin Malone: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Justin Malone: it get Daniel Barrett: So. Justin Malone: often uh broken. Daniel Barrett: And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: too Justin Malone: Yeah Todd Watts: too Daniel Barrett: fragile Todd Watts: fragile. Justin Malone: and a Daniel Barrett: uh Justin Malone: lots Daniel Barrett: fragile. Justin Malone: uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh Daniel Barrett: No. Justin Malone: kids uh Daniel Barrett: You can put games Charles Frazier: Kid-proof. Daniel Barrett: on your remote control. Whatever. Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: Um Charles Frazier: And uh how about the batteries? Uh should you put it in a recharger or a Daniel Barrett: Oh maybe Justin Malone: Ma Daniel Barrett: that's Charles Frazier: just Daniel Barrett: a good idea, Justin Malone: maybe Daniel Barrett: just to Justin Malone: a Daniel Barrett: put Justin Malone: home Daniel Barrett: it on Justin Malone: station. Daniel Barrett: your Todd Watts: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: television and just s recharge, you Charles Frazier: Mm Daniel Barrett: never Charles Frazier: yeah. Daniel Barrett: have to use any Todd Watts: Maybe Daniel Barrett: batteries. Todd Watts: that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, how Justin Malone: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: m how mu how how expensive Charles Frazier: Yeah, I dunno. Daniel Barrett: uh is a normal recharger? Todd Watts: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger? Daniel Barrett: I dunno. Charles Frazier: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone Justin Malone: Ah Charles Frazier: it's Justin Malone: yeah. Charles Frazier: probably expensive, but I don't know what the project uh projection Todd Watts: Maybe Charles Frazier: costs Todd Watts: have Charles Frazier: are Todd Watts: uh Charles Frazier: for such Daniel Barrett: Uh Charles Frazier: a Daniel Barrett: if Charles Frazier: thing. Daniel Barrett: you th look at the market, it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: it's too expensive. Todd Watts: 'cause Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: well Justin Malone: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is, and now Daniel Barrett: Yeah, Justin Malone: you can put Daniel Barrett: that's Justin Malone: it always Daniel Barrett: right, Justin Malone: at the same Daniel Barrett: yeah. Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: place. Charles Frazier: Yeah. Justin Malone: Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive. Todd Watts: Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Justin Malone: Yeah. Todd Watts: Sell it uh separately. Justin Malone: You can yeah, you can buy it with Charles Frazier: Yeah, Justin Malone: it. Charles Frazier: but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh Todd Watts: Rechargeable. Charles Frazier: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and Todd Watts: Yeah. Charles Frazier: just put it in the station, or you can change your batteries, Justin Malone: Oh yeah. Charles Frazier: so. Daniel Barrett: The option, just the option, that's Charles Frazier: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: cool. Justin Malone: Uh I I set something on paper already, size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top, Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Justin Malone: uh it Todd Watts: Yeah. Justin Malone: has to lay good in the hand, you you have to uh Daniel Barrett: Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different Justin Malone: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: form Justin Malone: I don't Daniel Barrett: than Justin Malone: I Daniel Barrett: a normal Justin Malone: don't know Daniel Barrett: remote control Justin Malone: I don't Daniel Barrett: or Todd Watts: Well Justin Malone: know if Todd Watts: I think Justin Malone: we Todd Watts: we have to look at that, 'cause well you can do the standard way, but then Justin Malone: You can Todd Watts: you Justin Malone: make Todd Watts: won't Justin Malone: it very special, to create our own Daniel Barrett: Yeah Justin Malone: um looks, but it's very hard to Charles Frazier: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works. Justin Malone: Nah. Todd Watts: Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block, Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see. But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well. Charles Frazier: Yeah. Todd Watts: So it Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Todd Watts: doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think, so you can do something unique with that. Charles Frazier: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you can still uh do the Justin Malone: Yeah yeah, what Charles Frazier: th the Justin Malone: Paul Charles Frazier: functions. Justin Malone: already said. Uh Charles Frazier: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, just Justin Malone: on Daniel Barrett: for the Justin Malone: on Charles Frazier: But Justin Malone: top Daniel Barrett: T_V_ Justin Malone: are the Charles Frazier: n Daniel Barrett: and just Charles Frazier: yeah, Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: the normal Charles Frazier: but Justin Malone: the Daniel Barrett: function, Todd Watts: yeah. Justin Malone: basic Charles Frazier: uh Daniel Barrett: that's Justin Malone: options Daniel Barrett: fine. Charles Frazier: i Justin Malone: on top, and Charles Frazier: basically Justin Malone: if you fold it Charles Frazier: when Justin Malone: open Charles Frazier: I'm Daniel Barrett: But Charles Frazier: watching Daniel Barrett: maybe Charles Frazier: T_V_ Daniel Barrett: it's Charles Frazier: I'm just using like five buttons or so, Todd Watts: Yeah. That's Charles Frazier: so. Daniel Barrett: maybe it's Todd Watts: what Daniel Barrett: very Todd Watts: I meant. Daniel Barrett: hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called? Justin Malone: Mm. If you if Todd Watts: Uh Justin Malone: if you make Daniel Barrett: Maybe Justin Malone: to fold Daniel Barrett: it's hard Justin Malone: open Daniel Barrett: t Justin Malone: it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a Daniel Barrett: No, Justin Malone: normal Daniel Barrett: that's right. So Justin Malone: uh Daniel Barrett: maybe Justin Malone: remote Daniel Barrett: we have Justin Malone: control. Daniel Barrett: to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control. Todd Watts: Okay, but yeah. Daniel Barrett: Just think Charles Frazier: Yeah. Daniel Barrett: about it. We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so. Charles Frazier: Okay. Daniel Barrett: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to what you have to do? Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Yeah. Justin Malone: Um for m for Justin Malone uh Justin Malone, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the Todd Watts: No, what you want to do with it. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things. Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Also from a user, but Justin Malone: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: all Justin Malone: it's also Daniel Barrett: these things together. Justin Malone: about strength Daniel Barrett: Yeah, Todd Watts: Yeah, Daniel Barrett: everything. Justin Malone: and Todd Watts: I Justin Malone: uh Todd Watts: also wrote down some Justin Malone: for Todd Watts: stuff Justin Malone: everything Todd Watts: that you want Justin Malone: uh. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, Todd Watts: on a Daniel Barrett: no maybe not not uh, that's not a f that's something for for Todd Watts: Technical Daniel Barrett: for yeah. Todd Watts: fun fu Daniel Barrett: That's not for you. Justin Malone: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Just if what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of Todd Watts: What Daniel Barrett: uh buttons Todd Watts: do you want Daniel Barrett: do Todd Watts: to Daniel Barrett: you Todd Watts: do Daniel Barrett: have. Todd Watts: with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control. I Daniel Barrett: Yeah, Todd Watts: already Daniel Barrett: it's alright. Todd Watts: wrote some down, some ideas. Justin Malone: Yep. Daniel Barrett: Yeah, just is that okay? Justin Malone: Okay. Todd Watts: Yep. Charles Frazier: Okay. Daniel Barrett: Okay. Todd Watts: There's already a document in the folder Justin Malone: Yeah, Todd Watts: about Justin Malone: Justin Malone too. Todd Watts: it. Daniel Barrett: So see you in thirty minutes. Justin Malone: Okay, well Todd Watts: Okay. Justin Malone: done. Charles Frazier: Okay. Daniel Barrett: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so your laptop. Todd Watts: I will. Justin Malone: Oh Paul. Todd Watts: It didn't say that. Daniel Barrett: No, sorry. Todd Watts: Your fault. Justin Malone: Ciao. Todd Watts: Bye bye. Justin Malone: Bye bye.	Daniel Barrett introduced himself and the project to the group. He presented an agenda for the rest of the project. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room materials by drawing on the board. Daniel Barrett discussed the projected price point, profit aim, and production cost for the project. The group discussed their initial ideas about the product design. They decided to make the remote a universal remote. They discussed the form of the device; it was suggested that the device could have a folding-open design or a touch-screen interface. They discussed energy source options and could not decide between using standard batteries or a recharging stand. They also discussed how to make the remote look more unique; it was suggested that the remote could feature the folding-open design to hide complicated functions on the inside of the device. Daniel Barrett instructed Justin Malone to prepare the user requirement specification and to research which devices the remote will control.	3	amisum	train
Reggie Tiger: Bonjour. Robert Ayre: It's It won't wake up. Yeah. I a bit early. Like Reggie Tiger: Why? Robert Ayre: What? No, I just came in. Uh normally I was one of them. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Robert Ayre: Come on. Reggie Tiger: Check check Benjamin Liebsch: Hello. Reggie Tiger: check Robert Ayre: Why Benjamin Liebsch: Oop. Robert Ayre: won't it wake up? Robert Ayre: Is it on? Reggie Tiger: The power light doesn't work. You turned it off. Robert Ayre: But how? Ah, there it is. Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: Uh. Daniel Pace: I received an email with uh a few on uh the. So I'll discuss them Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, we're Reggie Tiger: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: just Daniel Pace: with you. Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: to the later. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I received Benjamin Liebsch: So Robert Ayre: an Benjamin Liebsch: we're Robert Ayre: email Benjamin Liebsch: going to Robert Ayre: as Benjamin Liebsch: talk Robert Ayre: well. Benjamin Liebsch: about the conceptual model. Reggie Tiger: Oh. Reggie Tiger: Hmm. Robert Ayre: Which one was mine? Benjamin Liebsch: So that's Reggie Tiger. Uh okay. So Uh okay. Okay, so I just show you the m the no mm mm the the the the the the minutes, minute. What's it called, I dunno. Whatever. Robert Ayre: The minutes. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so we just talked about uh Oh you want Reggie Tiger to show that there or Reggie Tiger: Uh Robert Ayre: No, Daniel Pace: Mm Robert Ayre: just Daniel Pace: no. Robert Ayre: tell Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, Robert Ayre: us. Benjamin Liebsch: we just talked about it looks Has. to look nice. Usability is very important. People don't want to spend money on something that's similar to cheaper ones. Um It has to be very basic, not too many buttons. Light switches on if you use a button. Uh text T_V_ still has to be a possibility. And it has to be easy to learn. That were the things I uh make minutes of. And the functions are volume, channel to choose channels, an on-off, a mute uh button, and a text T_V_ button. That are the functions. That right? Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. So I just want to give you uh Mike again, the first uh presentation of your Reggie Tiger: Shall I start? Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: No. Okay well I received an email Okay. Reggie Tiger: I searched the web, uh and uh I searched uh on this d document, recent investigation of the remote control market. It has been done in Italy uh Italy and in uh another country in Europe, I forget it. but uh found out most important aspect for remote controls happens to be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look and feel. So it's very important for us to create something new. So what Michael just said, it must be uh some very different from ordinary uh remote controls. Fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and interface. Uh this uh aspect is the most important one. Uh it came out of the research. It uh is twice important as the following. The second uh most important aspect is that a remote control should it uh technological innovative. Uh that stands for uh uh new technical uh features. And then uh that uh This is a point of discussion, because we just decided that we don't make use of uh L_C_D_ or uh speech recognition. Robert Ayre: Hmm. Reggie Tiger: But um this is the second uh important uh aspect, and I think uh we must use some of the new technology, to be uh innovative. Benjamin Liebsch: But we already have the flashing flashing light on the Reggie Tiger: Uh maybe maybe something Robert Ayre: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: new. Robert Ayre: more. Reggie Tiger: We have Daniel Pace: Hmm. Reggie Tiger: to discuss about it s uh Robert Ayre: Well, Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: I'll I'll get back Reggie Tiger: Okay, Robert Ayre: on it. Reggie Tiger: uh features not uh do not exist in current remote controls. And that's very hard I think. Uh the third one is the aspect of the remote control should be easy to use. But uh that was an overall uh point. We already discussed that. Um I've got one picture. Uh d our our target group uh we thought about was young and trendy. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: So I took uh that part of the webpage. And it says uh fashion-watchers of uh uh Pari uh France and uh Italy, yeah, uh have detected the following trends. This trends I th uh trend I think it's not um that meaningful for us, maybe. But it's about uh clothes and shoes. But the Benjamin Liebsch: Hmm. Reggie Tiger: uh the next uh aspect also in contrast to last year, the feel of material is expe uh uh is expected to be spongy. Robert Ayre: Spongy. Reggie Tiger: But spongy, what what does spongy Daniel Pace: Spongy. Reggie Tiger: says? Robert Ayre: Spongy, Reggie Tiger: Spongy. Robert Ayre: like sponge. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Daniel Pace: So rubber, kind of. Robert Ayre: Uh soft materials. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: But maybe th that's al definitely a good idea, because you've you're you drop y your remote control very often on the ground. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: So it has Robert Ayre: but Benjamin Liebsch: to be Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: flexible. Reggie Tiger: Yeah, it's something that uh it stand there. But I didn't knew uh knew what it means. So spongy means y Daniel Pace: It's like Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Daniel Pace: a sponge. Robert Ayre: Soft, sponge. Reggie Tiger: So it's also a stress-ball. Benjamin Liebsch: That's a good Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: That's a good Daniel Pace: somewhat Benjamin Liebsch: idea. If it's Daniel Pace: like Benjamin Liebsch: de like that. That's Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: good, a Robert Ayre: but Benjamin Liebsch: good idea. Robert Ayre: Yeah. How are Benjamin Liebsch: Is it Robert Ayre: you Benjamin Liebsch: a Robert Ayre: gonna Benjamin Liebsch: bit Robert Ayre: make Benjamin Liebsch: like Robert Ayre: it? Benjamin Liebsch: like the the the the remote control? R_ soft. Reggie Tiger: Uh Daniel Pace: Yeah, I've some uh material uh information, but I'll give you it later Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: in my presentation. Reggie Tiger: Okay? What do I think? Uh because a fancy look is the most important thing uh for remote control uh control, I think about changeable fronts. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: Uh maybe a see-through one in a a fruit front. Because it's uh it's hot. And uh some basic uh colour fronts. Uh so we can make uh five different fronts to start with or something. Uh maybe an extraordinary shape, like a sponge. Uh or uh, yeah, just another shape than a normal uh remote control ha uh has. Just Robert Ayre: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: uh something round in it, or uh maybe not uh not uh Yeah, I dun dunno. We have to discuss about that. Uh y yeah. Main point uh still uh is the technolo technological innovative. Yeah, how do we do that? Maybe speech? We ma must have some kind of gadget. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I'll get back on that. Reggie Tiger: So Daniel Pace: Hmm. Benjamin Liebsch: It's very uh difficult to to Reggie Tiger: Intro Benjamin Liebsch: to Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: do it. Because it's only twelve and a half Euros you have to spend Reggie Tiger: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: on every Robert Ayre: Well, Reggie Tiger: that's Benjamin Liebsch: remote Reggie Tiger: the problem. Benjamin Liebsch: control. Reggie Tiger: That's Robert Ayre: I Reggie Tiger: the main Robert Ayre: got Reggie Tiger: problem. Robert Ayre: f also an email from Reggie Tiger: So Robert Ayre: the the technology department. Reggie Tiger: Maybe we watch the first Robert Ayre: They Reggie Tiger: uh Robert Ayre: have done Reggie Tiger: the next Robert Ayre: uh Reggie Tiger: two Robert Ayre: research Reggie Tiger: presentations. Robert Ayre: about it, and uh even more possibilities now with speech. So they recommended using it. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: Well Daniel Pace: Hmm. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Uh let's Robert Ayre: I'll check what they exact Reggie Tiger: first Robert Ayre: mean. Reggie Tiger: watch Paul's presentation Robert Ayre: So Reggie Tiger: first then. Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: Yeah, well actually we have don't have an idea how much it's gonna cost. But maybe it's cheap Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: it's Robert Ayre: th that's Daniel Pace: to Robert Ayre: the Daniel Pace: implement. Robert Ayre: only problem. I d They don't say how much it will cost, so Um but uh if Reggie Tiger: Oh. Robert Ayre: we implement Reggie Tiger: It's mass production. Robert Ayre: uh speech Reggie Tiger: So you can Robert Ayre: recognition, Reggie Tiger: say, you can Robert Ayre: I think it would be better to implement L_C_D_ as well. Since you have to uh configure speech Benjamin Liebsch: But Robert Ayre: thing. Benjamin Liebsch: that's definitely more expensive than Robert Ayre: Yeah, that's that's something I dunno. Reggie Tiger: Yeah. But how uh we we're gonna make many of those. So we can start a mass production, and then Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, but a Reggie Tiger: the Benjamin Liebsch: telephone Reggie Tiger: cost will still Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, Reggie Tiger: will be. Benjamin Liebsch: yeah. But a telephone also have a L_C_D_ and Robert Ayre: Yeah, so uh we Benjamin Liebsch: and Robert Ayre: gotta Benjamin Liebsch: it's about Robert Ayre: de Benjamin Liebsch: t two hundred Euros. So uh Robert Ayre: We have to decide Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: on that. Reggie Tiger: Okay. That was this? Robert Ayre: Mm uh Daniel Pace: Oh I got an email uh And it says uh the chip can be uh simple, regular or advanced. And Um They say uh a display requires an advanced chip. And this is more expensive than all the other chips. So it's m Robert Ayre: L_D_C_ Daniel Pace: the most Robert Ayre: doesn't Daniel Pace: expensive. Robert Ayre: require Daniel Pace: Yeah, it says in the email. The display requires an advanced chip. Robert Ayre: Okay. And speech recognition? Daniel Pace: Yeah, probably too. Robert Ayre: Advanced. Daniel Pace: I I haven't Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: got anything about speech recognition, but Robert Ayre: I'll I'll give Daniel Pace: Well Robert Ayre: you my Daniel Pace: it d Robert Ayre: design. Daniel Pace: That's that's the most expensive chip, we need. If we're doing uh Robert Ayre: Yeah Daniel Pace: if Robert Ayre: okay. Daniel Pace: we're doing Robert Ayre: So Daniel Pace: a Robert Ayre: we Daniel Pace: display. Robert Ayre: Well we can Robert Ayre: I had uh to make a sort of a design. So I did some searching on the internet. I watched the old remote controls and news com remote como uh remote controls. I think we should um This is one of the modern remote controls of the moment. I think we should go more to the iPod and M_P_ three players. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, just Robert Ayre: Mobile phones. Benjamin Liebsch: modern modern but still Robert Ayre: More modern. Benjamin Liebsch: uh basic. Robert Ayre: Y yes. Um you probably have to make it a bit bigger and a bit smaller. 'Cause remote con control, you can see it here, you have to bo reach both out both sides. And here you just have one, few buttons. So that's that's the main difference. But looks uh I definitely think we should go like this. And then changeable fonts, so Daniel Pace: Hmm. Robert Ayre: It's the most important part, I think. But And the home base is something like that, something simple. Well and then I just ordered the the buttons a bit. Uh basic buttons. On-off, mute. And th maybe two others, I dunno. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Robert Ayre: Text Benjamin Liebsch: maybe Robert Ayre: buttons. Benjamin Liebsch: the teletext Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: tel Robert Ayre: text button, maybe there and there. And then the colour buttons, if we want it on. I don't find it very usable, but Reggie Tiger: No, Benjamin Liebsch: No. Reggie Tiger: I don't Robert Ayre: it's Uh I don't think it's Reggie Tiger: uh I don't like Robert Ayre: fits in Reggie Tiger: it. Robert Ayre: the the modern theme as well. Daniel Pace: Hmm. Robert Ayre: So and then yeah we saw the the pla display, in the the iPod. They can put the basic buttons, one, two, three, four. And uh f above ten. And Daniel Pace: But it Robert Ayre: I think Daniel Pace: That's on on the display. Robert Ayre: No no. That th there is no display there. But it's on the place of the display. And I think we should uh light this up much more than that part. So Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: the focus is on these two parts. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: So you don't see all the buttons you else Benjamin Liebsch: But Robert Ayre: need. Benjamin Liebsch: it sounds very difficult to use. Because um the volume and channel is on the on Robert Ayre: Uh Benjamin Liebsch: the Robert Ayre: well Benjamin Liebsch: the bottom Robert Ayre: um Benjamin Liebsch: of it. So you can't use your thumb for it. Robert Ayre: This is how it is now. Um Here uh Well we have volume. Daniel Pace: I think Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: it is Benjamin Liebsch: down Daniel Pace: on Benjamin Liebsch: there. Daniel Pace: uh on the bottom too. Benjamin Liebsch: But it's not not the Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: best best. Robert Ayre: Well here we have also side scrolls. I dunno Daniel Pace: Yeah, Robert Ayre: if we can Daniel Pace: okay. Robert Ayre: use that. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Robert Ayre: Do Daniel Pace: Yeah, Robert Ayre: we Benjamin Liebsch: for Robert Ayre: want Benjamin Liebsch: volume. Daniel Pace: I've Robert Ayre: to use Daniel Pace: I've got something of Benjamin Liebsch: For volume, Daniel Pace: that uh too. Benjamin Liebsch: or a channel. Yeah, Robert Ayre: For Benjamin Liebsch: why Robert Ayre: volume? Benjamin Liebsch: not. Robert Ayre: Well then Daniel Pace: Scroll. Robert Ayre: we can even simplify it more. By just putting the volume on the side. And Benjamin Liebsch: And the channels Robert Ayre: and Benjamin Liebsch: as well. Robert Ayre: just channel buttons here. Benjamin Liebsch: Oh yeah. Daniel Pace: Yeah, Robert Ayre: But Daniel Pace: or Robert Ayre: I think Daniel Pace: uh Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: maybe uh The channel buttons are often used. And you can't use them now with your thumb, because the thing is not, it's Robert Ayre: Well. Daniel Pace: not easy to Robert Ayre: Yeah, well it's Daniel Pace: control. Robert Ayre: Basically it's it's here. Daniel Pace: Yeah okay, m maybe we cho should put that on top, and Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, that's Daniel Pace: buttons Benjamin Liebsch: better. Daniel Pace: we Robert Ayre: They're Daniel Pace: we Robert Ayre: on Daniel Pace: don't Robert Ayre: top? Daniel Pace: use on, in Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: the bottom. Benjamin Liebsch: just th th th other buttons like text T_V_. Put that on the button bottom. Daniel Pace: Because uh Robert Ayre: You mean Daniel Pace: you Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: can't hold it. Robert Ayre: these Daniel Pace: You can't Benjamin Liebsch: Mm-hmm. Daniel Pace: hold Robert Ayre: to the Daniel Pace: it Robert Ayre: low? Daniel Pace: th the Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: control and push the buttons. Benjamin Liebsch: Except from the on-off button. Robert Ayre: Oh okay. Well, yeah. Daniel Pace: But I I think w you'll use uh the switch channels buttons uh more often than the normal uh channel buttons, like one two three. So maybe we can Robert Ayre: Mm Daniel Pace: put that on the bottom. Robert Ayre: Maybe. I dunno, but yeah we'll Daniel Pace: Like zapping is just switching Robert Ayre: Yeah, maybe Daniel Pace: one channel Robert Ayre: it's not Daniel Pace: at a time. Robert Ayre: easy if it's below. It's harder to zap. So I think uh it should be should be easy to. I think it's pretty standard, these rubber buttons on the top. Daniel Pace: Yeah okay. That's Robert Ayre: And Daniel Pace: that's good, Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: but Robert Ayre: if you don't light 'em up, they don't uh you don't see 'em very good. I think it's modern to light this area up, and to light this area up. So the focus gets on these parts and not on there. Daniel Pace: Yeah okay. Robert Ayre: But uh the position of course can be different. It's s We have to look uh what's easy to use, and how it's easier to use. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: So we can uh switch these to Daniel Pace: Hmm. Robert Ayre: I dunno if it l will look good, if you put those on t on the bottom half. Daniel Pace: No, I think th the the top buttons are okay. Robert Ayre: Okay. Daniel Pace: They sh Those should be on top. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: But Robert Ayre: maybe Daniel Pace: uh we we can switch those two, Robert Ayre: Those Daniel Pace: yeah. Robert Ayre: two, yeah. And uh, yeah, you have to make sure it's easy to uh Yes, it has to be big enough so you can hold it, Reggie Tiger: Okay. Robert Ayre: right. Well that's that's my findings. So uh my personal opinion is that we should go more modern look. M_P_ three player. And uh well um if, we I don't think we should put it on top then. I think that, if we're gonna put in more technology, that you need to be able to uh switch it open. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: To Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: use Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, that's cool. Robert Ayre: So if you put in uh speech recognition, you need so more uh many more buttons. Which won't look good on the front side I think. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: No. Robert Ayre: So that's something we have to decide on. Daniel Pace: Yeah, we have to keep it simple. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: We have to decide this this lecture, or this this this uh Robert Ayre: What we're gonna do. Benjamin Liebsch: fifty minutes, yeah, Robert Ayre: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: how it is gonna look. Daniel Pace: Okay, the component design. I looked at uh some similar devices, and uh my own common knowledge. So uh this was on the web site. If you aim at a young public, you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green, blue, red. So flashy kinda colours. Uh shapes should be curved, so round shapes. Not Nothing square-like. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so Hmm, okay. Robert Ayre: Yeah well uh iPod is trendy. And Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: it is well curved Reggie Tiger: Square. Robert Ayre: square. Reggie Tiger: Like. Daniel Pace: Yeah, but mm is uh has round corners I Robert Ayre: Okay. Daniel Pace: think. Robert Ayre: So Daniel Pace: So Robert Ayre: not Daniel Pace: we shouldn't have too square corners Robert Ayre: Yeah Daniel Pace: and Robert Ayre: okay. Daniel Pace: that Robert Ayre: Not Daniel Pace: kind of Robert Ayre: uh the Daniel Pace: thing. Robert Ayre: old uh Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: box look. Daniel Pace: And um sports and gaming device style characteristics. I don't know exactly what that means, but it should be, well yeah, popular kind of Reggie Tiger: Mm. Daniel Pace: looking, Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, we have to Daniel Pace: I think. Benjamin Liebsch: put our Real Reaction logo as well on the Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: on the remote control. Robert Ayre: Mm Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: So the Robert Ayre: it's Benjamin Liebsch: colours also. So we have ha to ma make it in black, black, yellow. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Black yellow control. Benjamin Liebsch: Maybe the sides Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: in Daniel Pace: mm Benjamin Liebsch: yellow Daniel Pace: n Benjamin Liebsch: and the the the top in Daniel Pace: Not Benjamin Liebsch: black. Daniel Pace: that weird, because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy, to attract a young public. Robert Ayre: Yeah, but uh I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together. But Daniel Pace: No, Benjamin Liebsch: We Daniel Pace: okay. Benjamin Liebsch: make i Maybe Daniel Pace: That's Benjamin Liebsch: you can Daniel Pace: a Benjamin Liebsch: put Daniel Pace: that's Benjamin Liebsch: yellow Daniel Pace: a sen Benjamin Liebsch: on the side and black on the on the front. Daniel Pace: That's just a matter of tastes, but Robert Ayre: Yeah, okay. Daniel Pace: We have to use uh kind of flashy colours, Robert Ayre: Uh can't Daniel Pace: I think. Robert Ayre: we use um different uh fron uh fronts, with all with the the logo on it? Daniel Pace: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Robert Ayre: Can Benjamin Liebsch: it's Robert Ayre: we Benjamin Liebsch: cool. Robert Ayre: do that? Benjamin Liebsch: Yep. Daniel Pace: Like Robert Ayre: So Daniel Pace: fronts Benjamin Liebsch: And Daniel Pace: in in Benjamin Liebsch: still Daniel Pace: red Benjamin Liebsch: trans Daniel Pace: and yellow Robert Ayre: Yes. Daniel Pace: and blue and Reggie Tiger: Oh yeah. Robert Ayre: So Benjamin Liebsch: Still still transparent. Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: Yeah. But with all with logo on it. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: Well this is a remote control, a very old one. Um Then the components. The case has just a Here's black. But Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: we Benjamin Liebsch: we Daniel Pace: are Benjamin Liebsch: make Daniel Pace: making Benjamin Liebsch: it som Daniel Pace: it uh Benjamin Liebsch: Maybe we have to make it from soft material. Uh I'm not sure. Daniel Pace: Yeah, I dunno. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Maybe. But anyways uh it should be transparent. We decided that, huh? Robert Ayre: Well Daniel Pace: S Robert Ayre: one of the options. You can Just like a mobile phone, you can make um Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: different fronts on it. So you can just replace them I think. Daniel Pace: Yeah, we could Robert Ayre: That Daniel Pace: do Robert Ayre: was Daniel Pace: that. Robert Ayre: the idea, or just uh Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: release one. Benjamin Liebsch: Just give five with them, just in a box. Five Robert Ayre: Yeah, uh Benjamin Liebsch: different Robert Ayre: Or just Daniel Pace: Yeah, but Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: y you Robert Ayre: sell Daniel Pace: could Robert Ayre: different ones. Daniel Pace: you could make 'em uh uh like blue and transparent. So you Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: can still Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Cool. Daniel Pace: th look Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: through it. Um the buttons. Normal rubber I think. Like normal ordinary buttons. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: Soft. Robert Ayre: I uh I dunno. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: A more Benjamin Liebsch: It it could be like a Nokia, like Robert Ayre: Yeah, just Benjamin Liebsch: plastic. Reggie Tiger: Uh uh Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: With the Benjamin Liebsch: That's Daniel Pace: hard Benjamin Liebsch: better Daniel Pace: hard Benjamin Liebsch: prob Daniel Pace: buttons. Robert Ayre: I think Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: uh rubber really has an odd look. Daniel Pace: Okay. Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls, uh the buttons are part of the uh the style, I think is part of the remote control itself. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape. Uh it's n doesn't Is uh a button uh um How do you say it? Daniel Pace: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: It Daniel Pace: it's Reggie Tiger: it Daniel Pace: it's Reggie Tiger: didn't Daniel Pace: all Reggie Tiger: it Daniel Pace: on Reggie Tiger: i Daniel Pace: one Reggie Tiger: it Daniel Pace: level. Reggie Tiger: don't come out of the Daniel Pace: Yeah, on Reggie Tiger: on Daniel Pace: one Reggie Tiger: the background. Daniel Pace: level. Reggie Tiger: It is in uh the c a remote Robert Ayre: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: control uh Daniel Pace: Yeah, I know what you mean. So we have to keep it on the one level. Like Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah, like mobile Daniel Pace: th the Robert Ayre: phones. Daniel Pace: top it's Robert Ayre: Like Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: uh the iPod. Uh just Daniel Pace: Yeah, okay. Okay, Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: it's chos Benjamin Liebsch: that's cool. Daniel Pace: So that should be hard plastic. Then the buttons? I think. Or Robert Ayre: I Daniel Pace: maybe Robert Ayre: dunno what uh kind of material it is. But Benjamin Liebsch: But Daniel Pace: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: maybe you can m make a uh round fluff or soft material. Just only the Robert Ayre: Oops. Benjamin Liebsch: basic uh basic remote control from normal plastic, and Daniel Pace: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: the rounds of it from softer s Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: And um Benjamin Liebsch: I dunno. Daniel Pace: Then the L_E_D_. The normal infrared L_E_D_ I think s sufficient. And back light L_E_D_s. Benjamin Liebsch: Y Daniel Pace: So Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Cool. Daniel Pace: But I think we have to make the case transparent, otherwise the back light won't work. So if you put Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Uh you Benjamin Liebsch: Y i Robert Ayre: can Benjamin Liebsch: if you Robert Ayre: just Benjamin Liebsch: The numbers Robert Ayre: make them around Benjamin Liebsch: could be Robert Ayre: the buttons Benjamin Liebsch: can be Yeah, Robert Ayre: uh Benjamin Liebsch: that's Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: right. Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: Or it runs the whole Daniel Pace: Yeah, but we can still make it transparent. So Benjamin Liebsch: They can Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: choose. Robert Ayre: you Daniel Pace: Or Robert Ayre: can Daniel Pace: no Robert Ayre: halfs transparent, or just that it's comes out a bit. Daniel Pace: Yeah okay. Good. And in green colour, the back lights or Robert Ayre: Different, I think, also. Daniel Pace: Yeah? Benjamin Liebsch: Blue. Robert Ayre: Blue or red. Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Whatever you want it, I think. Uh depends on the colour Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, but Robert Ayre: of Benjamin Liebsch: you Robert Ayre: the Benjamin Liebsch: can't choo You Reggie Tiger: Uh Benjamin Liebsch: can't choose Reggie Tiger: i Benjamin Liebsch: it when you buy it. You Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: have Robert Ayre: that's Benjamin Liebsch: to Robert Ayre: true. Benjamin Liebsch: choose Robert Ayre: But Daniel Pace: No, but I think there are multiple colour LEDs. So Benjamin Liebsch: Is it Reggie Tiger: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Reggie Tiger: but can you change Daniel Pace: I I Reggie Tiger: it Daniel Pace: know Reggie Tiger: if you already Daniel Pace: I dunno. Is Reggie Tiger: bought the the Robert Ayre: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: remote Robert Ayre: it Reggie Tiger: control? Robert Ayre: can. Reggie Tiger: You Robert Ayre: 'Cause this Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, okay. Robert Ayre: a mo mib uh mobile Daniel Pace: Maybe Robert Ayre: phone Daniel Pace: it's Robert Ayre: as Daniel Pace: it's Robert Ayre: well. Daniel Pace: more impor Benjamin Liebsch: Maybe Daniel Pace: more Benjamin Liebsch: put some different Daniel Pace: expensive. Benjamin Liebsch: ones in it. Doesn't Daniel Pace: I Benjamin Liebsch: matter. Daniel Pace: think Benjamin Liebsch: It's Daniel Pace: it's Benjamin Liebsch: just Robert Ayre: I have Benjamin Liebsch: No, Robert Ayre: the mo Benjamin Liebsch: just Robert Ayre: mi Benjamin Liebsch: some Robert Ayre: I Benjamin Liebsch: LED. Robert Ayre: have a blinking light on my phone. And I can change the colour of it. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, cool. Just make it some different colours. Blue, red and green, or something. Daniel Pace: Yeah, I dunno. Maybe it's too expensive, but it Robert Ayre: Well, Daniel Pace: I th Robert Ayre: we don't Daniel Pace: I don't Robert Ayre: put Daniel Pace: think so. Robert Ayre: put in any fancier technology yet. Reggie Tiger: Hmm. Robert Ayre: So Daniel Pace: Then uh some more technical things. I don't know what it is, Um this is the normal circuit board, like a chip board in in a lot of uh things. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, we have to hurry Daniel Pace: W Benjamin Liebsch: up a bit, Daniel Pace: So Benjamin Liebsch: so Daniel Pace: we d we just need this and this transistors and resonators. There's all these kind of things. Um Robert Ayre: I'm Daniel Pace: they Robert Ayre: sure Daniel Pace: they basically Robert Ayre: we can fit Daniel Pace: said Robert Ayre: in. Daniel Pace: that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls. So I guess we j we just need that. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: I don't know what they do or Reggie Tiger: Okay Robert Ayre: Yeah okay. Reggie Tiger: yeah, Robert Ayre: We just Reggie Tiger: you can you can change Yeah. No. Daniel Pace: Nah, but they just said we need it. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: Uh the battery contacts, like normal batteries ca you can put Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: in. Benjamin Liebsch: a recharger maybe. Robert Ayre: Yeah, we Daniel Pace: Yeah Robert Ayre: have to Daniel Pace: okay. Robert Ayre: make sure Daniel Pace: Yeah Benjamin Liebsch: We Robert Ayre: to Benjamin Liebsch: still Robert Ayre: uh Daniel Pace: but Benjamin Liebsch: want to have a recharger, don't we? Is Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: that still Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: the Daniel Pace: Yeah, but it i We don't wanna have a ar an How do you call it? Accu. Benjamin Liebsch: A recha Oh no. Robert Ayre: Re recharger. Daniel Pace: Y Benjamin Liebsch: Uh Robert Ayre: Base Daniel Pace: uh Benjamin Liebsch: Battery. Daniel Pace: just Robert Ayre: station. Benjamin Liebsch: It's Daniel Pace: just Benjamin Liebsch: just a Daniel Pace: batteries, Benjamin Liebsch: battery. Daniel Pace: rechargeable Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: batteries. Robert Ayre: batteries. Yes, rechargeable Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: batteries, I think's best. Daniel Pace: Not a separate Benjamin Liebsch: No, just Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: rechargeable batteries. Daniel Pace: And uh a chip, that's this one. Then uh I received some possibilities. Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh Like with the pulse watch. So it operates Reggie Tiger: Ah Daniel Pace: on Reggie Tiger: cool. Daniel Pace: your wrist kinda. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Robert Ayre: So if you Daniel Pace: If Robert Ayre: hold Daniel Pace: you Benjamin Liebsch: But Daniel Pace: hold Robert Ayre: it, Benjamin Liebsch: normally Daniel Pace: it. Robert Ayre: it gets Benjamin Liebsch: you Robert Ayre: powered. Benjamin Liebsch: put a remote control on the table Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: or Daniel Pace: I don't Benjamin Liebsch: on the Daniel Pace: think it will work, Benjamin Liebsch: couch. Daniel Pace: and Or we can also use solar cells. But you mostly Benjamin Liebsch: It's dark Daniel Pace: use Benjamin Liebsch: in Daniel Pace: it Benjamin Liebsch: the room. Daniel Pace: indoors, Benjamin Liebsch: No. It's Daniel Pace: so Benjamin Liebsch: just batteries, that's cheaper. Daniel Pace: Yeah, and and we can use the home station kind of thing. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Um cases, flat, so uncurved. Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back. And three D_ curved is also in depth. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Daniel Pace: So that's possible. Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls, we must use rubber buttons. So we can't Robert Ayre: Mm. Daniel Pace: use the flat Robert Ayre: So Daniel Pace: buttons. Robert Ayre: we need uh two D_. Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: I think. Benjamin Liebsch: Definitely. Daniel Pace: Um these kinda materials can be used. Benjamin Liebsch: But it doesn't really matter, we just make it plastic. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Yeah, I think so too. Benjamin Liebsch: The scroll wheels, that's cool. That's for the volume. Daniel Pace: Yeah, scroll wheels um Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Yeah, that's good. We can use multiple scroll wheels, w if we want to. But I Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: think just the volume is enough. Robert Ayre: Uh For channels it's not Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: handy, because you scroll too fast. Daniel Pace: And uh the L_C_D_. So we need Reggie Tiger: Mm Daniel Pace: uh the expensive, most expensive chip, if we use an L_C_D_. Benjamin Liebsch: I don't think that's an opportunity. Just skip it. that to Daniel Pace: Okay, then we Benjamin Liebsch: to put it Daniel Pace: we Benjamin Liebsch: in. Daniel Pace: use m must use the second most expensive chip. So th so the regular chip. Because we use scroll wheels. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, okay. Robert Ayre: Okay. Daniel Pace: And um Yeah, that was it I Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: guess. Uh are are we using a a rubber case, or Benjamin Liebsch: Oh Daniel Pace: We haven't Benjamin Liebsch: just Daniel Pace: decided Benjamin Liebsch: sk Maybe Daniel Pace: yet. Benjamin Liebsch: you have to skip that one as well. It's Robert Ayre: Uh I don't think Reggie Tiger: Uh Robert Ayre: a rubber Daniel Pace: L Robert Ayre: case Daniel Pace: Yeah, i Robert Ayre: looks Reggie Tiger: but we Daniel Pace: it Reggie Tiger: have Daniel Pace: it should Reggie Tiger: to Daniel Pace: be Reggie Tiger: do Daniel Pace: soft. Reggie Tiger: something about the trend. Daniel Pace: You said so? Reggie Tiger: The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh. Robert Ayre: Yeah, okay. That Reggie Tiger: And Robert Ayre: Uh fruit Reggie Tiger: uh now Robert Ayre: and Reggie Tiger: we Robert Ayre: veg, Reggie Tiger: have nothing Robert Ayre: or Reggie Tiger: about uh about those those two. Robert Ayre: Yeah, fruit and veg can be just the covers. Reggie Tiger: Uh yeah i Just Robert Ayre: So you can Reggie Tiger: Just on front. Robert Ayre: the the spongy yeah, I dunno. I can't imagine Benjamin Liebsch: No. Robert Ayre: a soft remote control. Benjamin Liebsch: No. Robert Ayre: I just can't imagine it. Daniel Pace: So just hard plastic? Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Okay. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I think. Titanium. It's mentioned here uh. Daniel Pace: Titanium, uh I think it's too expensive. Benjamin Liebsch: But maybe the form has to be a bit different. Not the sh the square form. Just a bit Daniel Pace: Yeah, you can make Benjamin Liebsch: more Daniel Pace: it curved Benjamin Liebsch: rounded. Daniel Pace: or Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: mm round. But just in two D_, not Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: in depth. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, that's Robert Ayre: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: right. Benjamin Liebsch: So We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these. What exactly. Because we have to know it. So the energy uh is the recharger. We already know that. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Just Robert Ayre: We Benjamin Liebsch: a Robert Ayre: have Benjamin Liebsch: normal Robert Ayre: batteries. Benjamin Liebsch: battery. Okay. The chip-on-print is a normal one. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Regular. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, the case is just a plastic Daniel Pace: Yeah Benjamin Liebsch: one. Daniel Pace: th yeah, the chip is the the regular Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: one. You Benjamin Liebsch: re Daniel Pace: have Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: the simple Benjamin Liebsch: regular. Daniel Pace: one, regular Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: and Benjamin Liebsch: okay. Daniel Pace: advanced. So it's Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Daniel Pace: b should Benjamin Liebsch: regular. Daniel Pace: be regular uh the second. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: I think I'll just Benjamin Liebsch: And Daniel Pace: check Benjamin Liebsch: we Daniel Pace: it. Benjamin Liebsch: need a plastic case, with a scroll wheel. Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: That's pretty much it. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: User Benjamin Liebsch: And Robert Ayre: interface Benjamin Liebsch: a flashy Robert Ayre: concept. Benjamin Liebsch: light. So uh I'm not sure. But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment. But Robert Ayre: I dunno either. Daniel Pace: Mm. Or should we Robert Ayre: Uh Daniel Pace: do it in the next meeting? Robert Ayre: I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Daniel Pace: So Benjamin Liebsch: That's Daniel Pace: we Benjamin Liebsch: for Daniel Pace: should Benjamin Liebsch: the next Daniel Pace: did it Benjamin Liebsch: one. Daniel Pace: here? Robert Ayre: So Benjamin Liebsch: That's for Robert Ayre: we're Benjamin Liebsch: th Robert Ayre: staying here? Daniel Pace: Or should we Benjamin Liebsch: Uh Daniel Pace: do it in the Benjamin Liebsch: that Daniel Pace: next Benjamin Liebsch: I Daniel Pace: meeting? Benjamin Liebsch: think that's the next next meeting. Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: But you definitely get a specific instruction. Robert Ayre: Okay, so Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: now we're ka thirty minutes alone again? Benjamin Liebsch: But th think about something that's more rounded. Just And more Robert Ayre: Yeah, uh Benjamin Liebsch: It has Robert Ayre: I dunno. Benjamin Liebsch: to be Robert Ayre: But the iPod and etcetera, M_P_ three players, mobile phones. Benjamin Liebsch: Uh a bit. Just just on the top Robert Ayre: Just Benjamin Liebsch: or on the Robert Ayre: a bit Benjamin Liebsch: bottom. Robert Ayre: cur Okay, I'll see if I can see any of those. Benjamin Liebsch: Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this. O um if you draw it like this, you get a What the fuck is it? Okay. Mm Doesn't work. You see what I mean? If I draw here Daniel Pace: What? Benjamin Liebsch: It draws about four centimetres Daniel Pace: Oh. Benjamin Liebsch: lower than Nah okay. Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: Just. Maybe you can make it like this. And this is all the wheel for volume. So that you just um It's all rounded, so you can do Daniel Pace: Like a Benjamin Liebsch: uh Daniel Pace: very Benjamin Liebsch: turn Daniel Pace: big Benjamin Liebsch: this one. Daniel Pace: scroll-wheel. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, but just not on the top, but uh on the side of it. Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: Maybe, I dunno. Daniel Pace: Hmm. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so we have this at the moment. Daniel Pace: I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when Robert Ayre: Yeah, you Daniel Pace: it's not wanted. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so we'd have this. Is that okay? Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: I Robert Ayre: that's Daniel Pace: think Robert Ayre: a little Daniel Pace: it's Robert Ayre: problem, Daniel Pace: probably Robert Ayre: of course, Daniel Pace: better. Robert Ayre: as well. Benjamin Liebsch: And Daniel Pace: Yeah, but maybe we can make a a plastic, so that you i if you like drop it, it won't change the volume. Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: Only Robert Ayre: maybe Daniel Pace: if you Robert Ayre: you just Daniel Pace: use your Robert Ayre: have to Daniel Pace: finger. Robert Ayre: make it uh That's not scrollable too easy. Benjamin Liebsch: Like this. And uh what's the channel choose? Where do we uh put that? Daniel Pace: I think in Benjamin Liebsch: Still Daniel Pace: middle. Benjamin Liebsch: on the bottom or Robert Ayre: Uh wh what is the middle part? Benjamin Liebsch: That's the numbers. Daniel Pace: Uh I Robert Ayre: Numbers, Daniel Pace: think th the Robert Ayre: okay. Daniel Pace: numbers should be in the bottom, and and the switch channel in the middle. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I agree as well. Use the Benjamin Liebsch: It Robert Ayre: dz Benjamin Liebsch: doesn't make a difference, if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other. Because you already have the volume here, so You can also put it here one butt and the other one there. Next to each other. Robert Ayre: Yeah, that's Benjamin Liebsch: back Robert Ayre: right. Benjamin Liebsch: and forth. So you can also can put it all on the top, and this, you keep this empty. Because you have to hold it as well. Daniel Pace: Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button Benjamin Liebsch: But that's Daniel Pace: below. Benjamin Liebsch: not want to zap very quick, so Robert Ayre: Yeah, Daniel Pace: Yeah, Robert Ayre: I Daniel Pace: okay. Robert Ayre: think uh zapping Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah? Robert Ayre: is the highest priority. And then you use those Benjamin Liebsch: Is Robert Ayre: uh Benjamin Liebsch: this a opportunity, or you don't want Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: a different Robert Ayre: of course uh. Daniel Pace: Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other, so Benjamin Liebsch: Why? Daniel Pace: Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the Benjamin Liebsch: But still Daniel Pace: the Benjamin Liebsch: the Daniel Pace: up Benjamin Liebsch: next It's still the next one. Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: Doesn't Daniel Pace: but the top Benjamin Liebsch: make Daniel Pace: the top button is is like you switch channel up, and down button is Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, but fo Daniel Pace: If you put Benjamin Liebsch: from Daniel Pace: them Benjamin Liebsch: left to right is exactly the same. Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: It ma it doesn't make Robert Ayre: I Benjamin Liebsch: a big Robert Ayre: I Benjamin Liebsch: difference. Robert Ayre: think it's Daniel Pace: But Robert Ayre: It's Daniel Pace: uh but Robert Ayre: it's obvious, Daniel Pace: I I think Robert Ayre: I think. Daniel Pace: uh left to right is more often associated with volume, and top down is more with uh Reggie Tiger: Yeah, Daniel Pace: channel changing. Reggie Tiger: that's not not Benjamin Liebsch: But it's Daniel Pace: In Reggie Tiger: It's Benjamin Liebsch: exactly Daniel Pace: uh Reggie Tiger: not Daniel Pace: On Reggie Tiger: al Daniel Pace: most Reggie Tiger: uh always Benjamin Liebsch: th Daniel Pace: on most Reggie Tiger: the same. Daniel Pace: remote Reggie Tiger: Every Daniel Pace: controls. Reggie Tiger: remote control's Robert Ayre: Yeah, I think Reggie Tiger: uh Daniel Pace: So so if we Reggie Tiger: different. Daniel Pace: use that, they will probably have a long learning uh time. Benjamin Liebsch: I dunno. Robert Ayre: No, Benjamin Liebsch: I You Robert Ayre: uh Benjamin Liebsch: already Robert Ayre: I Benjamin Liebsch: have Robert Ayre: think Benjamin Liebsch: the volume on the side, so you can't make it you can't ma make a Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: mistake. So it's Robert Ayre: I think Benjamin Liebsch: uh Robert Ayre: it's s so Daniel Pace: I Robert Ayre: simple Daniel Pace: dunno. Robert Ayre: you just Daniel Pace: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: So but that's for that's for you, 'cause Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: it's Robert Ayre: okay I'll d I'll take a look at it. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so hmm. What did What else we have to discuss about? I dunno. Robert Ayre: Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again? Reggie Tiger: Yeah, we have to care that it r uh looks really new. Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: remote control. 'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside. Benjamin Liebsch: And the Robert Ayre: No, Benjamin Liebsch: LED. Robert Ayre: you have uh Daniel Pace: Yeah, but i Robert Ayre: It Daniel Pace: i it Robert Ayre: is Daniel Pace: should be round in Robert Ayre: Uh Daniel Pace: in shape. Robert Ayre: the current Daniel Pace: So Robert Ayre: uh controllers are all black and plastic. You have to look at that image of the iPod. Reggie Tiger: Yes. Robert Ayre: More Reggie Tiger: Okay. Robert Ayre: that uh kind of style. Reggie Tiger: And a bit uh Robert Ayre: Not not the old grey Benjamin Liebsch: Uh Robert Ayre: black Reggie Tiger: Some some Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: kind of bling bling uh Robert Ayre: Where Reggie Tiger: mm Robert Ayre: you can put a ve Reggie Tiger: can we have Robert Ayre: Uh we have If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Uh the logo was has to be on there. Yeah, that's right. Reggie Tiger: Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then? Uh five or something? Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: Or more Benjamin Liebsch: five. Reggie Tiger: or Benjamin Liebsch: Let's give five. Robert Ayre: Maybe you can buy separate ones Reggie Tiger: And Robert Ayre: and uh Reggie Tiger: um uh uh buy the product. You buy, you get one. And uh basic. Or you Robert Ayre: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: can Robert Ayre: Um Reggie Tiger: choose one uh Robert Ayre: I think Reggie Tiger: if you buy Robert Ayre: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: the project. Daniel Pace: No, Robert Ayre: That's Daniel Pace: tha Robert Ayre: your Daniel Pace: that Robert Ayre: choice, Daniel Pace: will be Robert Ayre: I think huh. Benjamin Liebsch: So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger? Is that is that a good good opportunity? Robert Ayre: Yes. Daniel Pace: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: So you Daniel Pace: so Benjamin Liebsch: could put it like Daniel Pace: top Benjamin Liebsch: that, Daniel Pace: down. Benjamin Liebsch: okay. Daniel Pace: Hmm? Reggie Tiger: Yeah, you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station. Daniel Pace: Do we have to design that w as well? Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Uh I'm Daniel Pace: The Benjamin Liebsch: not Daniel Pace: docking Benjamin Liebsch: sure. Daniel Pace: station? Robert Ayre: Yeah, I think so. Daniel Pace: Hmm. Reggie Tiger: Yeah, we Robert Ayre: But Reggie Tiger: can b Robert Ayre: th Yeah, that can be very simple. Least. Reggie Tiger: It c it could be Daniel Pace: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: just just Daniel Pace: just a recharger. Reggie Tiger: a square, just Robert Ayre: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: a Robert Ayre: just Reggie Tiger: packet. Robert Ayre: where you're around something. Li Yeah, we had one example. Daniel Pace: But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well. Robert Ayre: Mm. Mm. Reggie Tiger: Yeah, but that's a round Robert Ayre: Which w Reggie Tiger: one. Maybe we can choose then. Robert Ayre: Here you see one that's very round. Daniel Pace: Oh yeah, okay. Robert Ayre: So I think that can be all kind of shapes. Benjamin Liebsch: But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit. Daniel Pace: Of Benjamin Liebsch: That's Daniel Pace: the remote Benjamin Liebsch: all. Daniel Pace: control? Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Daniel Pace: Yeah Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Just Robert Ayre: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: round it Robert Ayre: so Benjamin Liebsch: up. Robert Ayre: y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod. But Benjamin Liebsch: No. Robert Ayre: More rounded. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I think it will just look like more like this one. Since it's This is also rounded. Benjamin Liebsch: No, Robert Ayre: I think Benjamin Liebsch: just Robert Ayre: i Benjamin Liebsch: just the corners. Robert Ayre: Yeah okay, tho those are al already a bit cornered. Mm Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Daniel Pace: Yeah, but we can we can do all kinds of uh As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of Benjamin Liebsch: Shapes. Daniel Pace: round shapes. Robert Ayre: Yeah okay, but then Daniel Pace: Not Robert Ayre: we Daniel Pace: in Robert Ayre: have Daniel Pace: depth. Robert Ayre: to think of something totally new. Daniel Pace: Yeah, but Yeah, if if we want to make it kind of, yeah, new. Robert Ayre: I've uh I had a lot of picture of old ones. And all curves have already been done. Benjamin Liebsch: It's a bit annoying, isn't it? Reggie Tiger: Yeah. What do we do wrong? Hmm. Just just more like this and not uh a square. Robert Ayre: Yeah okay, Reggie Tiger: Okay. Robert Ayre: yeah well Daniel Pace: Yeah, but we could do a lot of, lot more curving. I would do it Robert Ayre: Yeah. I know we can do a lot more, but Reggie Tiger: Yeah, it Daniel Pace: Like in this kind of shape or Reggie Tiger: Uh it's very annoying. Okay. Daniel Pace: I dunno. I dunno if it's handy. Robert Ayre: I think it will only Reggie Tiger: Uh Robert Ayre: look more like the old remote controls. Daniel Pace: This? Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square Robert Ayre: Yeah Daniel Pace: thing. Robert Ayre: okay. But uh I had a lot of pictures Oh I can show you here what the old ones look like. Daniel Pace: Mm. Robert Ayre: Curves, curves. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: You've more there as well. Daniel Pace: Yeah, okay. Robert Ayre: It wasn't very small one. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: very simple. That is for elderly. Benjamin Liebsch: So we have to make a decision, what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have. Daniel Pace: Yeah, I don't know. Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: I think if w My opinion. If we just uh take the iPod, and Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: the same look. So uh light or just whatever colour, but the same light colours. Daniel Pace: Mm-hmm. Robert Ayre: And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new. No rubber buttons or something. Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look. More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player. Daniel Pace: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: And you have the scroll button inside. Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: Just Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: a simple Benjamin Liebsch: But why Robert Ayre: scrollb Benjamin Liebsch: do we have to round it on the t bottom then? Of Skip that one as well. Robert Ayre: Doesn't have to be. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Yeah, it's cool. Daniel Pace: Yeah, though that's a trend. If we want to make it. But yeah, I'm not a Trendwatcher, you are. So Reggie Tiger: Uh the t the trend is Benjamin Liebsch: Rubber spongy. Reggie Tiger: spongy and fruity. But yeah. Robert Ayre: Yeah. No. Daniel Pace: Spongeball Robert Ayre: Spongy Daniel Pace: kinda. Robert Ayre: and Reggie Tiger: It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so we have s still one minute left. So Reggie Tiger: Uh Benjamin Liebsch: just I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square. Robert Ayre: Mm. Daniel Pace: Okay. Reggie Tiger: It The Daniel Pace: Yeah, I d Reggie Tiger: th Daniel Pace: I Reggie Tiger: th Daniel Pace: don't know n something about ergonomic kind Benjamin Liebsch: No. Daniel Pace: of fits-in-the-hand Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Daniel Pace: uh Benjamin Liebsch: But Daniel Pace: stuff. Benjamin Liebsch: I I think it's still for older people. You j still have older people. It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that, like f Whatever. Just Reggie Tiger: There is Daniel Pace: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: one Benjamin Liebsch: you have Daniel Pace: but Benjamin Liebsch: a normal Daniel Pace: we're we're aiming at a young Reggie Tiger: There's Daniel Pace: public. Reggie Tiger: just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original, and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself. It must have uh uh uh Robert Ayre: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: a very Robert Ayre: idea. Reggie Tiger: different Robert Ayre: But you're If you look at the way remote controls are now Reggie Tiger: Yeah, they're all Robert Ayre: And Reggie Tiger: the same. Robert Ayre: if you Benjamin Liebsch: But Robert Ayre: make Benjamin Liebsch: i it Robert Ayre: it Benjamin Liebsch: is Robert Ayre: look Benjamin Liebsch: it Robert Ayre: like Benjamin Liebsch: is Robert Ayre: the iPod Benjamin Liebsch: it is already fancy. Because of the lights on the bottom Robert Ayre: Yeah Benjamin Liebsch: of it. That's Robert Ayre: okay. Benjamin Liebsch: already Robert Ayre: So Benjamin Liebsch: fancy. Robert Ayre: that's already Benjamin Liebsch: Uh Robert Ayre: a very big Benjamin Liebsch: maybe Robert Ayre: change Benjamin Liebsch: maybe Robert Ayre: compared Benjamin Liebsch: make Robert Ayre: to Benjamin Liebsch: the the mm the wha what's it called uh scroll wheel. Make it in in yellow or something. Just like the colours of Real Daniel Pace: Hmm. Benjamin Liebsch: Reaction. Robert Ayre: Ye yeah. Well uh Daniel Pace: Yeah, we could do that. Robert Ayre: Could. Reggie Tiger: Uh yeah, but uh if you the f uh front, the scroll wheel will still uh Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Reggie Tiger: be yellow. Robert Ayre: No, I think Oh. Benjamin Liebsch: It's right. Robert Ayre: Think the scroll wheel won't be very big. Since if you put it uh somewhere, the chances that it will scroll are too big. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: So it will just be a small small scroll wheel. So it won't uh stick out much. Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Maybe the ones we are going to draw there. Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has if it can work better than this. Because it doesn't work properly. Reggie Tiger: No. Benjamin Liebsch: So maybe you Robert Ayre: Yeah Benjamin Liebsch: have Robert Ayre: okay. Benjamin Liebsch: to ask Robert Ayre: Well, Benjamin Liebsch: her. Robert Ayre: maybe we can just open images there, and I'll paint and paint. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay. Robert Ayre: I'll Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: be able to do Benjamin Liebsch: That's Robert Ayre: a better Benjamin Liebsch: probably Robert Ayre: job. Reggie Tiger: If you set the pen yeah, he will draw here. Doesn't work. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, so just finish it. So we make it a bit like m that one probably. Reggie Tiger: Yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Is that okay? Robert Ayre: Bu Reggie Tiger: I'll see it. Robert Ayre: Yeah, I Daniel Pace: Yeah. Robert Ayre: agree more Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, Robert Ayre: like iPod. Benjamin Liebsch: only the colour and the flashy light and Robert Ayre: Yes. Benjamin Liebsch: the Robert Ayre: Just Benjamin Liebsch: We just Robert Ayre: a Benjamin Liebsch: we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech Robert Ayre: Speech. Benjamin Liebsch: recognition. Robert Ayre: Yeah, do we s keep that? Yeah, I think Benjamin Liebsch: Or keep that? It's okay. But you'd definitely Daniel Pace: S Benjamin Liebsch: need a Robert Ayre: Well Daniel Pace: Uh Robert Ayre: uh then Daniel Pace: yeah, Benjamin Liebsch: advanced Robert Ayre: it Daniel Pace: I Robert Ayre: w Benjamin Liebsch: chip. Daniel Pace: don't Reggie Tiger: Uh Daniel Pace: know. Yeah, I think so. And we we have to build in a microphone and Robert Ayre: Well that's very easy. We already have uh the beeping of the Daniel Pace: Yeah, and I do I Robert Ayre: home Daniel Pace: don't Robert Ayre: station, Daniel Pace: know anything Robert Ayre: so Daniel Pace: about that. I d Reggie Tiger: No. Daniel Pace: I didn't receive any information Robert Ayre: Uh strange Daniel Pace: on speech Robert Ayre: that Daniel Pace: recognition, Robert Ayre: I received Daniel Pace: so Robert Ayre: the Reggie Tiger: Oh that's hard. Robert Ayre: information Reggie Tiger: But Robert Ayre: about Benjamin Liebsch: So Robert Ayre: that. Reggie Tiger: Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said. We have to be original and uh technological innovative. Becau Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: Can we just Reggie Tiger: But Benjamin Liebsch: put it speech recognition in it as well, okay? Robert Ayre: So shall we Reggie Tiger: Ma Robert Ayre: it open then? Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah. Robert Ayre: So we can put all the Benjamin Liebsch: The function of that in there. Yeah. Robert Ayre: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: And we need Daniel Pace: Fine. Benjamin Liebsch: a Probably we need a uh advanced chip then. Daniel Pace: Yeah, we Benjamin Liebsch: But Daniel Pace: probably Benjamin Liebsch: it doesn't say Daniel Pace: do. Benjamin Liebsch: anything Robert Ayre: Yeah. Benjamin Liebsch: about it, does it? Daniel Pace: No. Robert Ayre: Oh yeah, Reggie Tiger: But we don't Robert Ayre: I Reggie Tiger: have any f information about the cost. Robert Ayre: No. Reggie Tiger: We started with information about Robert Ayre: I just Reggie Tiger: the cost Daniel Pace: Yeah, Reggie Tiger: was Daniel Pace: uh Reggie Tiger: now Robert Ayre: I Daniel Pace: I Robert Ayre: just Reggie Tiger: th Robert Ayre: received Daniel Pace: have I Robert Ayre: the Daniel Pace: have some some information about the cost. But just a about Robert Ayre: Yeah. Daniel Pace: the chip. Reggie Tiger: And how much is the chip? The the the Daniel Pace: I don't know how much, but Robert Ayre: Yeah, our division has Daniel Pace: Just Robert Ayre: developed Daniel Pace: in inexpensive Robert Ayre: a new speech recognition Daniel Pace: or Robert Ayre: feature, the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit. This is a very small electronic unit, will give a standard answer after it recognise a question. Reggie Tiger: And how how does it work? Is it Robert Ayre: Doesn't say. Just You say record, followed by your question sample, and after a few seconds the answer uh sample. Because uh So it works like uh good morning remote control, and then the remote control says good morning. Benjamin Liebsch: It doesn't has to say anything. Reggie Tiger: No. Benjamin Liebsch: Just You have to just talk Reggie Tiger: Does Benjamin Liebsch: to Robert Ayre: Yeah Reggie Tiger: it say Robert Ayre: uh th that's Reggie Tiger: does it say Robert Ayre: just Reggie Tiger: something Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, Reggie Tiger: back? Benjamin Liebsch: we have to stop Robert Ayre: It's Benjamin Liebsch: it now. Robert Ayre: a Benjamin Liebsch: So Robert Ayre: No. Benjamin Liebsch: just Robert Ayre: Yeah, it Well that's integrated in the chip, so if you use the speech recognition, Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, that's a r Robert Ayre: that's Benjamin Liebsch: That's that's Robert Ayre: in it. Benjamin Liebsch: a Daniel Pace: But i it's Benjamin Liebsch: advanced Daniel Pace: a separate chip. Robert Ayre: I dunno, but if we use speech recognition, that will be in it as well. Reggie Tiger: Okay. Daniel Pace: Yeah, I don't know anything about Reggie Tiger: Um Daniel Pace: this, but Benjamin Liebsch: Yeah, we Daniel Pace: Nah. Benjamin Liebsch: just decide not to put it in, because it's too difficult. Daniel Pace: I dunno. Robert Ayre: Well it it would be would be a good feature Reggie Tiger: Yeah. Robert Ayre: feature. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, we just put it in, because Robert Ayre: Okay. Benjamin Liebsch: it's a good feature. Robert Ayre: No Benjamin Liebsch: We Robert Ayre: no worries about Benjamin Liebsch: have to Robert Ayre: the cost, Benjamin Liebsch: stop now. Robert Ayre: etcetera. Benjamin Liebsch: Okay, Robert Ayre: And there's Benjamin Liebsch: just Robert Ayre: a chip Benjamin Liebsch: We Robert Ayre: in Benjamin Liebsch: have Robert Ayre: it Benjamin Liebsch: to stop Robert Ayre: that Benjamin Liebsch: it Robert Ayre: will Benjamin Liebsch: now. Robert Ayre: Okay. Reggie Tiger: Fine.	Benjamin Liebsch reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Reggie Tiger gave a trendwatching report. He found that a fancy look and feel was most important for users. He also discussed the trend towards spongy materials. The group discussed the cost of adding speech recognition, the LCD screen, and the advanced chip. Robert Ayre discussed the look of the interface with the group. They discussed the placement and design of the buttons and decided to use scroll wheels for volume. Daniel Pace advised that flashy colors and rounded shapes be used. The group discussed how to incorporate the logo and including changeable faces. They discussed materials for the buttons and the backlight. The group decided to use rechargeable batteries and a stand, to use plastic for the casing and buttons, and to not include an LCD screen. Robert Ayre and Daniel Pace were instructed to draw the prototype at the next meeting, and Robert Ayre was instructed to finalize the button placement. The group finalized the look of the product, and eventually decided to incorporate speech recognition and an advanced chip.	3	amisum	train
Terrance Oberg: Oh. William Ray: It's not saved yet. Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: So Terrance Oberg: Okay. William Ray: Our beautiful. Terrance Oberg: So just f um Terrance Oberg: So is our agenda. You're F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after Robert Cosby. Robert Cosby: Oops. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Uh I didn't Oh yeah. So these are the Donald Croshaw: Oh, okay. Yeah. Terrance Oberg: So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right, just say it to Robert Cosby then. I don't have to put it in the report. William Ray: Are we doing the the speech recognition? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well. Terrance Oberg: Okay, but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to, it's okay. William Ray: Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in. Terrance Oberg: Okay, just William Ray: Yeah, just uh we have to design the inside then, but it should Donald Croshaw: Yeah, William Ray: be Donald Croshaw: and William Ray: uh Donald Croshaw: Or are we making a slide open, like underneath? Or fold open? I don't know. Terrance Oberg: Slide open is Donald Croshaw: It's Terrance Oberg: uh Donald Croshaw: probably Terrance Oberg: quite Donald Croshaw: better. Terrance Oberg: usable for remote controls. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and William Ray: It's Donald Croshaw: you William Ray: may Donald Croshaw: other William Ray: maybe Donald Croshaw: functions. Terrance Oberg: Maybe William Ray: uh a Terrance Oberg: that's William Ray: bit stronger Terrance Oberg: better. William Ray: as well. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, that's that's a very good point. William Ray: Okay, Donald Croshaw: Think William Ray: so Donald Croshaw: that's better. William Ray: when you have a lot of room inside. So you make it very easy to use. 'Cause Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: can write a lot of comments besides it. Terrance Oberg: Okay. So this is okay? William Ray: No. Yeah, we're gonna use the advanced chip then. Terrance Oberg: Okay, so that's Uh I'll just Donald Croshaw: The Terrance Oberg: have a look how much that is. But um William Ray: Advanced chip Terrance Oberg: Okay, William Ray: was for Terrance Oberg: for the William Ray: uh spee Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, I Terrance Oberg: Okay. Donald Croshaw: I think so. I don't know. Terrance Oberg: No, you have a different chip for speech recognition. So William Ray: Okay. Donald Croshaw: Ah okay. Terrance Oberg: So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay. William Ray: Good. Terrance Oberg: So you can show your prototype if you want to. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: Together? Donald Croshaw: Yeah, it's Let's do it together. William Ray: I'll give comments. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Yeah we just made a Word file the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form, the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it. Uh the material should be hard plastic. Robert Cosby: Mm-hmm. Donald Croshaw: Uh colour changeable, and also transparent. And colour and transparent, or just transparent, I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function, on-off function, text functions. This uh switch channel. Terrance Oberg: Okay, cool. Donald Croshaw: And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here, and the mic. Terrance Oberg: Okay. Donald Croshaw: And the scrollwheel, no? You Robert Cosby: Means Donald Croshaw: operate that with your pointing finger. So you hold it like this in your right hand and Terrance Oberg: Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone? William Ray: Speech recognition. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, speech recognition. Just William Ray: Um Terrance Oberg: Only one button to say William Ray: I Terrance Oberg: it's William Ray: didn't Terrance Oberg: on William Ray: have Terrance Oberg: or off. William Ray: a specification of that. But um Donald Croshaw: Uh William Ray: I Donald Croshaw: I dunno. William Ray: can imagine that you have to input your voice or something. Um Donald Croshaw: Yeah, maybe maybe William Ray: so I've Donald Croshaw: uh you have to configure it. William Ray: Yes, you need options to configure it, and after that you don't need 'em anymore. Terrance Oberg: So you can put it on the back as well if you William Ray: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: want to. William Ray: you can Donald Croshaw: Yeah, William Ray: put Donald Croshaw: or William Ray: 'em all on Donald Croshaw: or William Ray: the back. Donald Croshaw: on the slide William Ray: That's for sure. Donald Croshaw: function, I don't know. Terrance Oberg: Okay. William Ray: That's Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: uh Donald Croshaw: Well we haven't had time to design that, the slide William Ray: We also Donald Croshaw: pad. William Ray: don't know how many buttons are required, or what kind of buttons. But You have a lot of room if you can slide it open. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, you can William Ray: You Terrance Oberg: put William Ray: Yeah Terrance Oberg: it William Ray: I know. Terrance Oberg: separate. William Ray: I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So But Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: it's enough room. Donald Croshaw: Um the position? Yeah, you write uh William Ray: Uh Donald Croshaw: You wrote William Ray: well Donald Croshaw: this, so. William Ray: Well the main, the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing. So uh the best place, the best reach place Um on-off buttons, text buttons, mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are, easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger, uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red, 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's basically the be standard place for scrollwheel, as Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: far as I know. Donald Croshaw: But it's not uh impossible to use it, if you're left handed. So y William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Because you can use your thumb then. Robert Cosby: Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight William Ray: Okay Robert Cosby: nine. William Ray: yeah, they Robert Cosby: But you missed the no uh the zero Donald Croshaw: Mm Robert Cosby: and Donald Croshaw: yeah. Robert Cosby: uh William Ray: Yeah Robert Cosby: the two William Ray: okay. Robert Cosby: stripes. William Ray: That's that's Donald Croshaw: Yeah, William Ray: below Donald Croshaw: okay. William Ray: that then. It's uh twelve Donald Croshaw: just William Ray: buttons. Donald Croshaw: so you get that. Robert Cosby: Okay, but It's rather important. William Ray: Yeah okay, Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: just we just missed that. But um I'll just uh I'll get back to later. F the form well, we've taken that from the iPod, other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um The f uh the buttons creating? Uh if you That or all round shapes, not uh rounded corners. Terrance Oberg: Okay. William Ray: So that, you know, you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons, uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing, the thing that lights up. We have decided uh in the the channel buttons, there's a little uh colour around it. Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: And also in the num-pads, there's also colour light behind it. Terrance Oberg: And William Ray: So Terrance Oberg: do William Ray: when Terrance Oberg: you William Ray: you Terrance Oberg: still William Ray: pre Terrance Oberg: can, do you still can choose what colour, kind of colour you want? William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: How do you want to implement that? Just William Ray: We're Terrance Oberg: on the William Ray: going Terrance Oberg: Maybe William Ray: to Terrance Oberg: on William Ray: implement. Terrance Oberg: the second level as well? William Ray: Yeah. Mm just a little Robert Cosby: Ah. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, these are just basic functions, so All the non-basic Terrance Oberg: Okay, just Donald Croshaw: are Terrance Oberg: draw Donald Croshaw: in Terrance Oberg: draw the second level, because we need that as well. Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Um Robert Cosby: Okay, there is one uh function I use uh daily, and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player. That Donald Croshaw: Okay, Robert Cosby: function Donald Croshaw: maybe Robert Cosby: must be Donald Croshaw: we use this button for Robert Cosby: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: the Robert Cosby: maybe Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other William Ray: Yeah, Robert Cosby: uh William Ray: I um Terrance Oberg: Yeah, as well. Robert Cosby: functions. Terrance Oberg: Just make William Ray: To Terrance Oberg: make William Ray: your video Terrance Oberg: a William Ray: device. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something. Donald Croshaw: A second William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: level? Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Like a a new blank Terrance Oberg: No no, Donald Croshaw: one Terrance Oberg: just Donald Croshaw: or Terrance Oberg: on Donald Croshaw: Or just Terrance Oberg: Down Donald Croshaw: here? Terrance Oberg: there. William Ray: Is i Ah okay. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: So uh Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Robert Cosby: And h how does Terrance Oberg: Just Robert Cosby: the Terrance Oberg: uh Robert Cosby: second Terrance Oberg: if you Robert Cosby: level Terrance Oberg: s Robert Cosby: come out? Uh it slides uh William Ray: Um slides Robert Cosby: along? William Ray: I think. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, y William Ray: It's Terrance Oberg: Maybe, yeah. Robert Cosby: From from the uh Terrance Oberg: For the William Ray: You can Terrance Oberg: bottom. William Ray: do Robert Cosby: beneath? William Ray: it that it claps open, but I think that's not solid enough. Terrance Oberg: No, William Ray: If that Terrance Oberg: you William Ray: breaks Terrance Oberg: gotta William Ray: then Terrance Oberg: slide William Ray: you're screwed. Terrance Oberg: it. Yeah, it's right. William Ray: So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open. Um Donald Croshaw: So what do we need? William Ray: Uh i the the speech functions buttons. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, just Robert Cosby: Menu? William Ray: Menu button. With uh maybe uh arrows. So you can uh scroll in the, navigate the menu. Um Donald Croshaw: God Robert Cosby: Scart? Donald Croshaw: damn it. William Ray: I think we can even put a We have one for the zero and one for the Robert Cosby: Uh yeah. William Ray: for the more digit uh Robert Cosby: And so y you William Ray: channels. Robert Cosby: keep William Ray: So Robert Cosby: you keep William Ray: you have Robert Cosby: one, William Ray: one Robert Cosby: you have William Ray: left for Robert Cosby: one William Ray: the Robert Cosby: left. Yes. Donald Croshaw: So this is William Ray: Right, Donald Croshaw: the William Ray: the video channel, Play Station, etcetera. That's used pretty often. Robert Cosby: Yeah. William Ray: If you have a Play Robert Cosby: It's William Ray: Station, Robert Cosby: a f William Ray: mm Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: you use it every day. Robert Cosby: basic uh Donald Croshaw: Extern or something. Terrance Oberg: You want to save that file as well? The drawing? William Ray: That was Donald Croshaw: So William Ray: it. Donald Croshaw: here are multiple speech buttons, I don't know how many. William Ray: Uh Terrance Oberg: Doesn't really matter. Donald Croshaw: I don't Terrance Oberg: Just Donald Croshaw: know the William Ray: It Donald Croshaw: functions. William Ray: doesn't Terrance Oberg: just uh William Ray: really matter. That's Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: Yeah well we don't Donald Croshaw: What William Ray: have Donald Croshaw: else? William Ray: any uh Hmm? Donald Croshaw: What else? William Ray: What else? Uh menu buttons with Donald Croshaw: Uh menu. William Ray: arrows. Robert Cosby: Yeah, to navigate. Donald Croshaw: Uh William Ray: S Just uh Donald Croshaw: With arrows. William Ray: like Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have Or there. Donald Croshaw: Like a normal um William Ray: Like on the normal uh Like this. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, with in the middle um a menu William Ray: The menu Donald Croshaw: button. William Ray: button, yes. Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: Well we don't have any, anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it. Robert Cosby: Mm okay. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs? Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: Yep. Robert Cosby: Uh and and you can hold it, you can hold it, and then the colours switch or Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: mm multiple William Ray: Just press it once, Robert Cosby: multiple William Ray: the Robert Cosby: buttons. William Ray: colour should uh switch. Press again, the colour switch again maybe? Robert Cosby: okay. Terrance Oberg: Or we just make it three buttons, all the colours on it. Just red, yel Robert Cosby: Okay, Terrance Oberg: uh red, Robert Cosby: yeah. Terrance Oberg: green Robert Cosby: Th Terrance Oberg: and Robert Cosby: Yeah. If Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Robert Cosby: we have Donald Croshaw: okay. Robert Cosby: enough place, uh Terrance Oberg: That's Robert Cosby: then we Terrance Oberg: that's Robert Cosby: can do Terrance Oberg: very Robert Cosby: that. Terrance Oberg: easy, yeah. Donald Croshaw: We can put those here. Robert Cosby: Colour buttons. And then we choose green, uh blue and red or Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: Yep. Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: Okay. That's uh Um Donald Croshaw: So did we miss anything? William Ray: Yeah, Robert Cosby: It William Ray: maybe some uh some text Robert Cosby: Some text William Ray: next to Robert Cosby: uh William Ray: the Robert Cosby: buttons. William Ray: scroll wheel, that it is volume. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Yeah, but William Ray: I Terrance Oberg: No, William Ray: just Terrance Oberg: ma William Ray: uh The Terrance Oberg: on William Ray: volume Terrance Oberg: on William Ray: logo. Robert Cosby: there's Terrance Oberg: o Robert Cosby: one Terrance Oberg: on the Robert Cosby: there's Terrance Oberg: on Robert Cosby: one Terrance Oberg: the Robert Cosby: text Donald Croshaw: Oh Robert Cosby: button Donald Croshaw: wh Robert Cosby: I Donald Croshaw: Here? Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Just make it Robert Cosby: There's Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Robert Cosby: one Donald Croshaw: or Robert Cosby: text Donald Croshaw: th or Robert Cosby: button Donald Croshaw: the Robert Cosby: I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page, uh like seven hundred, uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred, you will switch to your television and back to William Ray: Yeah, Robert Cosby: text. William Ray: we Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: have that on the Robert Cosby: Do you do you William Ray: the Robert Cosby: Did William Ray: text Donald Croshaw: Yep. Robert Cosby: you William Ray: button. Robert Cosby: think of that? Donald Croshaw: Yeah, but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just William Ray: Uh Donald Croshaw: switch it off and then William Ray: why Terrance Oberg: Yeah, William Ray: not? Terrance Oberg: just put it on those extra f extra function Robert Cosby: Ex Terrance Oberg: as Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: well. Robert Cosby: Yeah. William Ray: No Donald Croshaw: Well w William Ray: Whoa Donald Croshaw: we thought of a text button. And if you press it again, you get the the the William Ray: I Robert Cosby: The William Ray: think Robert Cosby: sta the state Terrance Oberg: Oh William Ray: um Terrance Oberg: just Robert Cosby: you Terrance Oberg: three stages, Donald Croshaw: through view. Terrance Oberg: you Robert Cosby: Yeah. William Ray: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: that's Donald Croshaw: b William Ray: the three Donald Croshaw: but Terrance Oberg: okay. William Ray: stages. Donald Croshaw: but William Ray: Yes. Donald Croshaw: if you're in the second stage, the third stage is switch teletext off. So you can switch back William Ray: No, Donald Croshaw: from William Ray: it doesn't Donald Croshaw: second William Ray: have Donald Croshaw: to William Ray: to Donald Croshaw: w William Ray: turn Donald Croshaw: first. William Ray: it off. Robert Cosby: No. William Ray: Just don't Robert Cosby: Just remember where it was. It William Ray: Yeah. Robert Cosby: it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext Terrance Oberg: Yes, Robert Cosby: on, Terrance Oberg: that's to remember. Robert Cosby: you you set the seven hundred, and you turn it off, then the next time you turn it on, it still stays on Donald Croshaw: Okay, Robert Cosby: seven hundred? Donald Croshaw: okay. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, but that's Robert Cosby: But Terrance Oberg: that's Robert Cosby: maybe Terrance Oberg: uh Robert Cosby: it's not the way William Ray: I dunno if Terrance Oberg: That's a functionality for the television. William Ray: Yeah, I think as well, but Uh yeah. Robert Cosby: Mm. That's maybe one Donald Croshaw: Yeah mm nee Robert Cosby: thing we can Donald Croshaw: uh Robert Cosby: discuss about. Donald Croshaw: No, if i uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred, page seven hundred to the television. William Ray: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: Th th William Ray: in thi the Donald Croshaw: th if William Ray: the Terrance Oberg: Okay. Donald Croshaw: you switch it William Ray: remote Donald Croshaw: on. William Ray: control in the Terrance Oberg: Yeah, but Donald Croshaw: Th Terrance Oberg: you have Donald Croshaw: i Terrance Oberg: to William Ray: the Terrance Oberg: search William Ray: chip. Terrance Oberg: every time again. That's what what happening if you do it like that. William Ray: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: But William Ray: that's true. Terrance Oberg: it's still Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: the Donald Croshaw: I dunno. Terrance Oberg: television that has Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: to do that. William Ray: So yeah. Um do we need to fix that or Robert Cosby: Mm Terrance Oberg: No, that's what the television Robert Cosby: most new Terrance Oberg: does. Robert Cosby: T_V_s do uh collect all the pages. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, those memory Robert Cosby: But Donald Croshaw: functions. Robert Cosby: uh not not every every television, so Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Okay, Donald Croshaw: Was Terrance Oberg: it's Donald Croshaw: uh Terrance Oberg: cool. Donald Croshaw: this logo for uh volume? Terrance Oberg: Yeah, that's fine. Donald Croshaw: Okay. So that's it? Terrance Oberg: Is this prich pretty much it, yeah? Robert Cosby: Yeah, I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons? Uh from which material are they now? Donald Croshaw: Mm. William Ray: Just Donald Croshaw: No no William Ray: like your telephone, hard plastic. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Just hard plastic. Robert Cosby: Okay. Donald Croshaw: So Robert Cosby: Because Terrance Oberg: It's too expensive Robert Cosby: um Terrance Oberg: to make it from a different material Robert Cosby: if you Terrance Oberg: anyway. Robert Cosby: use it a couple of years, some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away, are uh And maybe we can write the numbers below or above? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons? William Ray: I think Donald Croshaw: Uh William Ray: just Donald Croshaw: I William Ray: on Donald Croshaw: think William Ray: the buttons. Donald Croshaw: just um Robert Cosby: Well yeah. That's too much place. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Robert Cosby: Okay, William Ray: I Donald Croshaw: but William Ray: don't Robert Cosby: just leave William Ray: think Robert Cosby: it. Just William Ray: the space Robert Cosby: leave it. William Ray: is worth it. Robert Cosby: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: I think Robert Cosby: and Donald Croshaw: uh Robert Cosby: i Donald Croshaw: you have Robert Cosby: The most Donald Croshaw: that problem Robert Cosby: time Donald Croshaw: more often with rubber buttons. Robert Cosby: Yeah, with rubber buttons. Yeah, okay. Okay. Fine. Terrance Oberg: Yeah? Okay, cool. Terrance Oberg: Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah, I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one. Robert Cosby: Yeah, I made some criteria uh, Terrance Oberg: Oh okay, you Robert Cosby: so Terrance Oberg: made some Robert Cosby: we Terrance Oberg: criteria. Robert Cosby: can uh Terrance Oberg: Okay, Robert Cosby: ev Terrance Oberg: cool. Robert Cosby: evaluate our model. Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: I d d d I don't think if it's right. That shall show it. Terrance Oberg: You have some usability criteria or Robert Cosby: Mm-hmm. Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: Uh no, uh all criterias we just argue about. Uh Oh. Donald Croshaw: In the bottom. Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Look-and-feel? Robert Cosby: Evaluation Donald Croshaw: No, Robert Cosby: crit Donald Croshaw: evaluation is Robert Cosby: Yeah, evaluation presentation. It's not in. Uh d it doesn't matter um It only had two pages or something. Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy, or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market. The Italians uh, how they think about it. And The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff. I made some criteria, and we have to test the criteria from one to zero. We sh we we we can give it uh a number, and then we can give ourself an average for our Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: um model. And Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: this These are all I I I found, or I wrote down. And um we have to discuss about, if we give it a one or a seven. Uh Terrance Oberg: Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful. It's Robert Cosby: Yes. William Ray: Mm. Terrance Oberg: We are Robert Cosby: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: actu Robert Cosby: the the Terrance Oberg: We Robert Cosby: the difference Terrance Oberg: are the Robert Cosby: be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something. And fancy's more like the Terrance Oberg: Flashy. Robert Cosby: mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and and that kind of stuff. William Ray: Okay. Well Robert Cosby: The LEDs. William Ray: I think we do If it's really uh, if you can if you can get the iPod look, then it's beautiful, I think. Robert Cosby: Yes. And Terrance Oberg: But Donald Croshaw: Yeah Terrance Oberg: uh Robert Cosby: and what Donald Croshaw: beautiful's Robert Cosby: ki what kind of Donald Croshaw: is Robert Cosby: what Donald Croshaw: also Robert Cosby: kind of basic Donald Croshaw: a matter of Robert Cosby: colours Donald Croshaw: taste. Robert Cosby: uh were you thought uh of? William Ray: Hmm? Robert Cosby: The basic colours are black or green or yellow? Or you William Ray: Um Robert Cosby: haven't William Ray: basic Robert Cosby: thought about William Ray: colours, um yeah. Well you didn't Robert Cosby: Ho William Ray: say. Robert Cosby: how do we make uh William Ray: Maybe um company colours? Terrance Oberg: It's black. Robert Cosby: Black William Ray: Black. Robert Cosby: and yellow. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, William Ray: A bit Robert Cosby: Can Terrance Oberg: yellow William Ray: a bit Terrance Oberg: light. William Ray: of yellow. Terrance Oberg: Do we have yellow light? No, not really, but William Ray: Not Terrance Oberg: it's possible. William Ray: not not yellow, Terrance Oberg: It's William Ray: but just a bit of light yellow. Robert Cosby: Black white, maybe? William Ray: Like white, also ni or uh always Donald Croshaw: And William Ray: nice. Donald Croshaw: what colours Robert Cosby: Uh Donald Croshaw: should the buttons be? Robert Cosby: Because um Terrance Oberg: Yeah, different colours. This is William Ray: Just um Terrance Oberg: Oh, the same as th th the cover. But also th the Donald Croshaw: But Terrance Oberg: light behind Donald Croshaw: can William Ray: Yes. Donald Croshaw: you change Terrance Oberg: it. Donald Croshaw: those too, with uh Terrance Oberg: No, Donald Croshaw: the switch? Terrance Oberg: no. Make them No, just make them black or grey or something. William Ray: Yeah, grey. Just dark grey I think. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Okay, so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful? Beautiful is uh really subjective, uh because it has to do lots with the colours. William Ray: Well we have changeable fronts, so Robert Cosby: Changeable fronts, so ev for everyone for William Ray: So Robert Cosby: everyone it's something beautiful. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, just William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: give it a one. It's okay. It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not? William Ray: It's hard to decide for us, but Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: yeah. Donald Croshaw: It's ju William Ray: It Donald Croshaw: so William Ray: it's Donald Croshaw: subjective. William Ray: At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls. Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Okay, just give it a two. Robert Cosby: A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons. William Ray: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Okay. uh really fancy I think. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: One Robert Cosby: So Donald Croshaw: more thing. Are w are we changing uh Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too? Or n no back light? Robert Cosby: Slide panel? Donald Croshaw: Yeah? William Ray: Mm. Terrance Oberg: No. William Ray: Not Terrance Oberg: No, William Ray: needed. Terrance Oberg: it's only on the number, behind the numbers William Ray: Yeah, not Terrance Oberg: and William Ray: needed Terrance Oberg: uh William Ray: I Donald Croshaw: And William Ray: think. Donald Croshaw: and the switch channel is uh Robert Cosby: Oh, Donald Croshaw: There is Terrance Oberg: That Donald Croshaw: a back Terrance Oberg: as Donald Croshaw: light Terrance Oberg: well, Donald Croshaw: too? Robert Cosby: you mean th Terrance Oberg: yeah. William Ray: Yeah. Robert Cosby: this here? Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, but that's unnecessary. William Ray: What do I think is necessary necessary Robert Cosby: It's William Ray: item? Robert Cosby: pretty cool. If you slide it open, it lights up. That's that's really Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: fancy, but I don't know if it's reachable. William Ray: Of course it's reachable. Terrance Oberg: It doesn't Robert Cosby: Then Terrance Oberg: make Robert Cosby: we do it. Donald Croshaw: Hmm. William Ray: Okay, maybe just some light uh to to light it all up. So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons Terrance Oberg: No. William Ray: or something. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: Just a green light or some blue light. To Robert Cosby: Yeah, William Ray: light it all up. Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: but Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Mayb Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: Okay. Donald Croshaw: just backlight. Not not the buttons. And William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons, but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey. Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: Well yeah. Uh semi-transparent. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, just Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: only Yeah, that's right. Robert Cosby: Okay, fine. Terrance Oberg: So Robert Cosby: So I I think it's very fancy. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, that's Robert Cosby: So I'll Terrance Oberg: how William Ray: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: I Robert Cosby: give Terrance Oberg: think. Robert Cosby: it a William Ray: w we've done a a lot of detail in light, so Robert Cosby: Yeah, and you can Terrance Oberg: Ye Robert Cosby: uh also choose your light, so Terrance Oberg: Yeah, this William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: It is a one. It's okay. Robert Cosby: I think Terrance Oberg: It's cool. Robert Cosby: it's one. Okay, next. Terrance Oberg: This is a difficult one, because Robert Cosby: Learnable? Terrance Oberg: we we Robert Cosby: Easy Terrance Oberg: don't Robert Cosby: to use? Terrance Oberg: Yeah, we don't know it about the Robert Cosby: Yeah, we shall test it But uh Terrance Oberg: Uh it's it's very easy to use, but William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: uh the second layer is not easy to use. It's That's Donald Croshaw: No, but you Robert Cosby: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: don't have to use that. And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer. That's Terrance Oberg: No. Donald Croshaw: th that's the main thing that's so good William Ray: So Donald Croshaw: about William Ray: I think Donald Croshaw: it. William Ray: it's easy to use, but And learnable Robert Cosby: Learnable? William Ray: is a bit Robert Cosby: It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control. Donald Croshaw: Well, Robert Cosby: Because Donald Croshaw: I think it William Ray: Well Donald Croshaw: is. Robert Cosby: because I William Ray: y Robert Cosby: think William Ray: just Robert Cosby: I think William Ray: uh Robert Cosby: the scroll William Ray: f Robert Cosby: wheel, uh it's very handy, but the first time you get this thing in your hands, it's not to use the scroll wheel. I think uh you must uh seek for it, and up or down or Uh Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: then Terrance Oberg: the rest of it is very Robert Cosby: the Terrance Oberg: easy, Robert Cosby: re Terrance Oberg: because there are so so William Ray: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: n William Ray: I think it's very clear Donald Croshaw: So William Ray: what it Donald Croshaw: so William Ray: all does. Donald Croshaw: few information that you can William Ray: Yes. Donald Croshaw: easily decide Robert Cosby: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: what buttons w for what function. Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: But the second parts, uh like speech, etcetera, that will be harder to learn. Terrance Oberg: So Robert Cosby: Okay. Terrance Oberg: it is learnable um f i Robert Cosby: But Terrance Oberg: i In the first place William Ray: It's Terrance Oberg: it's very easy to use. And William Ray: Yeah Terrance Oberg: I think William Ray: it's Terrance Oberg: its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well, if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: of Robert Cosby: But William Ray: Device. Terrance Oberg: uh Robert Cosby: we we've got the Terrance Oberg: device. Robert Cosby: two so two uh two or three uh new things, huh? And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech, uh the scroll wheel, and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls. 'Cause Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: I Terrance Oberg: yeah. Robert Cosby: think learnable is a l a less than um easy to use. Because William Ray: Okay. Robert Cosby: easy to use comes after Terrance Oberg: Okay, Robert Cosby: learnable. Terrance Oberg: just Easy Robert Cosby: I I Terrance Oberg: to use Robert Cosby: think Terrance Oberg: is Robert Cosby: it Terrance Oberg: very Robert Cosby: a three Terrance Oberg: cool Robert Cosby: or Terrance Oberg: so, Robert Cosby: something. Terrance Oberg: just give it a two. William Ray: Maybe three then. Learnable's Terrance Oberg: No, Donald Croshaw: Mm Terrance Oberg: but definitely Donald Croshaw: uh. Terrance Oberg: better, much better than uh than uh Donald Croshaw: The normal. Terrance Oberg: than avera William Ray: Yeah okay. Terrance Oberg: average, yeah. William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know William Ray: Yep, true. Then a two. Robert Cosby: Oh. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: New features. Techno technological innovative? Donald Croshaw: The speech function and Robert Cosby: The Donald Croshaw: the colour. Robert Cosby: speech function William Ray: And Robert Cosby: is William Ray: the Donald Croshaw: Colour. William Ray: scrollwheel, Robert Cosby: new. The scrollwheel William Ray: backlights, Robert Cosby: and the slide. Uh William Ray: slide. Robert Cosby: I think the slide Terrance Oberg: Slide Robert Cosby: is Terrance Oberg: is Robert Cosby: pretty Terrance Oberg: not n Robert Cosby: new. Terrance Oberg: is is not new. No. I Robert Cosby: Uh Terrance Oberg: already Robert Cosby: I only Terrance Oberg: have Robert Cosby: saw Terrance Oberg: a Robert Cosby: it in a telephone, not in an Terrance Oberg: Uh I Robert Cosby: remote Terrance Oberg: already Robert Cosby: control. Terrance Oberg: have a V_C_R_ and it's about from Robert Cosby: Okay. Terrance Oberg: nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it. So William Ray: But also slide Terrance Oberg: that's not William Ray: that Terrance Oberg: new. William Ray: buttons come out, as Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: well? Okay. Robert Cosby: Okay, and the the the lightning? Terrance Oberg: That's cool. Robert Cosby: Is that new? Terrance Oberg: Yeah for a Robert Cosby: The lighting's Terrance Oberg: Uh for Robert Cosby: new. Terrance Oberg: a Donald Croshaw: Mm Terrance Oberg: f William Ray: Yes. Donald Croshaw: it's Robert Cosby: Scrollwheel. Donald Croshaw: pretty new, I think. Robert Cosby: Speech? Donald Croshaw: Speech is new. William Ray: Different colours, so Robert Cosby: Yeah, different fronts for a remote control, I think that's new too. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: Yeah. Robert Cosby: So we have a pretty new uh Terrance Oberg: There are no William Ray: That Terrance Oberg: games William Ray: would And Terrance Oberg: on William Ray: we Terrance Oberg: it, William Ray: didn't Terrance Oberg: that's that's William Ray: uh Terrance Oberg: It's not a one, it's a two Robert Cosby: It's Terrance Oberg: again. Robert Cosby: it's Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: it's not not L_C_D_ William Ray: But Robert Cosby: or William Ray: then Robert Cosby: something. William Ray: we also have Terrance Oberg: If William Ray: the Terrance Oberg: you have William Ray: the home station. We are forgetting about that now, but Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Uh-oh. Terrance Oberg: Oh yeah, that's right. Robert Cosby: Home-station. Terrance Oberg: Rechargeable. William Ray: We don't Donald Croshaw: Yeah, William Ray: recharge. Donald Croshaw: we didn't draw that too, but William Ray: But that's more like uh now. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, just draw it afterwards. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, that's just a normal th s simple William Ray: I don't Donald Croshaw: thing. William Ray: know. Terrance Oberg: If you Can you save it on the same, in the same map as the other ones? In the the William Ray: Uh Terrance Oberg: project uh map? William Ray: Just save, save Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: as? Terrance Oberg: Mm-hmm. Uh save as? No, that's not in the project. Donald Croshaw: Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven. Terrance Oberg: Oh yeah, okay. Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Smart William Ray: Okay. Terrance Oberg: board. Yeah, but this one. This one is not yet in the Oh oh. Donald Croshaw: I think it is. William Ray: Yeah, it Donald Croshaw: No, William Ray: is. Donald Croshaw: I think it is. William Ray: Uh untitled? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Save. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Robert Cosby: Uh Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: all Terrance Oberg: you still have to draw the resi Robert Cosby: the Terrance Oberg: the Robert Cosby: the seven, Terrance Oberg: recharger. Robert Cosby: uh all the Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: seven. Terrance Oberg: And new features, so we give it a two or also again a one? No, I think i if you have games on it, then then you give you have a one. Robert Cosby: No, we Terrance Oberg: But Robert Cosby: are Terrance Oberg: not Robert Cosby: not extraordinary new or something. Terrance Oberg: No, Robert Cosby: Tha Terrance Oberg: just Robert Cosby: tha Donald Croshaw: Mm Terrance Oberg: so William Ray: N Terrance Oberg: it's still Robert Cosby: that Terrance Oberg: a two. Donald Croshaw: two, I think. Terrance Oberg: Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience? Do we like Robert Cosby: No, Terrance Oberg: it? Robert Cosby: we we we searched for uh um a young group, audience, Terrance Oberg: Yeah, but Robert Cosby: beneath Terrance Oberg: l younger Robert Cosby: f forty. Terrance Oberg: than forty. Robert Cosby: Yes. Terrance Oberg: So we we are exactly the targeted group. Robert Cosby: Yeah, but did we reach, um with our uh style, the targeted audience? Th that's Terrance Oberg: I Robert Cosby: my Terrance Oberg: think Robert Cosby: question. Terrance Oberg: so, yeah. You get the fancy things for younger people. And Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: you get the the aesthetic things for older people. So you want Donald Croshaw: and that's what attracts the Robert Cosby: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: young audience. So Robert Cosby: Yeah. Um Donald Croshaw: think that's Robert Cosby: the Donald Croshaw: a Robert Cosby: only Donald Croshaw: two Robert Cosby: point Donald Croshaw: or Robert Cosby: is Donald Croshaw: a Robert Cosby: that Donald Croshaw: one. Robert Cosby: we don't uh have uh uh That's that's That's this question. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, but s it That's basically not not handy. And I don't thi I don't see Robert Cosby: Yeah, this. So Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Robert Cosby: we targeted it? But we Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Robert Cosby: didn't follow the latest trends. Donald Croshaw: No. Yeah, you could William Ray: Mm. Donald Croshaw: make a William Ray: I Donald Croshaw: a William Ray: think Donald Croshaw: front William Ray: we followed the latest trends. Donald Croshaw: a front Robert Cosby: Tha these Donald Croshaw: that's Robert Cosby: are Donald Croshaw: that's Robert Cosby: the only Donald Croshaw: like Robert Cosby: latest Donald Croshaw: uh Robert Cosby: uh Donald Croshaw: like Robert Cosby: trends Donald Croshaw: a banana, Robert Cosby: I uh Donald Croshaw: or something. William Ray: Oh right. Robert Cosby: get on my computer. William Ray: Well uh fruit and vegetables, yeah. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, you get different William Ray: You Terrance Oberg: colours. William Ray: can different front uh Robert Cosby: Uh yeah, th So we had Terrance Oberg: So Robert Cosby: we uh have Donald Croshaw: Like Robert Cosby: uh Donald Croshaw: a a Robert Cosby: a fruit Donald Croshaw: f Robert Cosby: uh Donald Croshaw: banana kind of Robert Cosby: Oh yeah. Donald Croshaw: front. Robert Cosby: But spongy will never be. Donald Croshaw: No. Robert Cosby: So we give ourself a three or something. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Oh. Robert Cosby: Okay. Terrance Oberg: So that's eleven. Robert Cosby: That's uh What's the average? Donald Croshaw: Eleven divided Terrance Oberg: It's Donald Croshaw: by six. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, it is one point eight three. Robert Cosby: A perfect score. No, I don't know. Donald Croshaw: We're not too hard on ourselves. William Ray: This is a a power indicator. Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: So you can see how far it's charged up. Robert Cosby: And and Donald Croshaw: Okay. Robert Cosby: you need n uh a button to call it, to let it beep. William Ray: To call. Um Terrance Oberg: Oh Robert Cosby: Call Terrance Oberg: yeah, that's still Donald Croshaw: Yeah, but uh we have to make a speaker then too. If you want to make it beep. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, maybe William Ray: Okay. Terrance Oberg: we have to skip that one. Robert Cosby: That's William Ray: No Robert Cosby: Yeah, William Ray: no, Robert Cosby: but William Ray: I Robert Cosby: it William Ray: want that in. Donald Croshaw: But we can we can do it uh underneath Robert Cosby: No, we Donald Croshaw: the logo. Robert Cosby: need that. That's usable. Donald Croshaw: If you do uh Robert Cosby: That's really Terrance Oberg: Okay. Robert Cosby: usable. William Ray: Yeah, th the speaker is very small as well, right? Donald Croshaw: Yeah, okay. Robert Cosby: It's uh Terrance Oberg: So William Ray: Yes uh. Terrance Oberg: I just got a financial um You s saved it Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: or Robert Cosby: I did save it. Terrance Oberg: No. Okay, let's have a look at this one here, the production cost of it. If I forgot anything, just say it to Robert Cosby. It just is a battery. Yeah, there are some that they didn't mention, because recharge is not on the list. But okay. So I think we are pretty much in the right direction, because it's twelve point three Euros. Donald Croshaw: Mm okay. But uh Robert Cosby: That's Donald Croshaw: is uh Robert Cosby: fine. Donald Croshaw: uh Terrance Oberg: So this is a regular chip incl and and a sample speaker. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: So that's both. Robert Cosby: Come on, it's perfect. Uh twelve point three point Terrance Oberg: Yeah, Robert Cosby: three. Terrance Oberg: and single curved Donald Croshaw: But Terrance Oberg: curved. Donald Croshaw: but is it inc Does it include a a homestation or Terrance Oberg: No, that's not on the list. But that shouldn't Donald Croshaw: Can we Terrance Oberg: be. Donald Croshaw: make that for uh h twenty cents? William Ray: Yeah, we can uh Terrance Oberg: Probably. I just The b the button supplements, I didn't I d I was wondering if this special colour maybe was William Ray: Um Terrance Oberg: I'm not sure. William Ray: different fronts, but standard front won't be, yeah. Terrance Oberg: See it's I think Robert Cosby: Special Terrance Oberg: it's okay Robert Cosby: form, Terrance Oberg: like this. Robert Cosby: yeah. Terrance Oberg: It's hard to say. But maybe we have to um Yeah, okay. Special colour, you can skip this one, because it's all quite normal. William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: We get different ones, that's all. So you can put a recharger in it as well. But this is expensive, the sample speaker. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: This? Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, it's four. Robert Cosby: Four. It's four Euros. William Ray: Oh, them. Is that uh included? Robert Cosby: Yeah. William Ray: In the twelve Euro Robert Cosby: So William Ray: or Robert Cosby: we Terrance Oberg: Yeah, Robert Cosby: are Terrance Oberg: that's included. Donald Croshaw: It's kind of William Ray: Okay, Donald Croshaw: weird William Ray: then Donald Croshaw: that we William Ray: we then we need to use Donald Croshaw: we William Ray: it. Donald Croshaw: get this information now, afterwards. Because Terrance Oberg: Yeah, no. William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Okay, so this is uh pretty much it this. William Ray: Damn, solar cells are uh expensive. Terrance Oberg: So I just want you Yeah, we just made it. So we can do the project evalu evaluation now for uh for everything together. Robert Cosby: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Okay. We can do some discussion about this. Was there room for creativity? Donald Croshaw: Sure. Robert Cosby: Yes. William Ray: Okay. Terrance Oberg: Paul, Donald Croshaw: Beautiful. Terrance Oberg: was there room for crea creativity? William Ray: Mm uh i Yeah, I think so. I think uh everyone uh already. So Donald Croshaw: Yeah m If we got a high mark for um uh innovativeness or innovativity Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Or a different Donald Croshaw: then Robert Cosby: style. Donald Croshaw: there William Ray: I think Donald Croshaw: we William Ray: we Donald Croshaw: probably William Ray: uh discussed Donald Croshaw: have been William Ray: a lot Donald Croshaw: creative. William Ray: of things about it. So Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Robert Cosby: Yeah. We could make a lot of different uh remote controls. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Robert Cosby: So it's creativity. Donald Croshaw: Huh. Terrance Oberg: Okay, so the leadership Was there a leadership and William Ray: Of course there was. Terrance Oberg: Okay. What do you have to say about that? Donald Croshaw: No, Robert Cosby: Who was the leader? Donald Croshaw: I think Yeah. Terrance Oberg: I dunno. Donald Croshaw: Just normal discussion, I think. Not William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: one leader or something. William Ray: One leader to check the time, etcetera. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. And make notes. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, I know. William Ray: So more like a secretary. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Okay, next one. Uh team work um The the third meeting I think that one was pretty hard. We were not all We were not um Robert Cosby: Yeah Terrance Oberg: agree with every Robert Cosby: yeah. Terrance Oberg: not Robert Cosby: We Terrance Oberg: agree Robert Cosby: were not Terrance Oberg: with. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Robert Cosby: finished. Donald Croshaw: w we Terrance Oberg: We're Donald Croshaw: had Terrance Oberg: not finished. Donald Croshaw: so much information, Robert Cosby: Uh. Donald Croshaw: that we get through email and just William Ray: Uh I think we we got wrong information at the wrong time. I think that was the m biggest problem. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: Like uh the prices. If we knew that before, we could have uh Donald Croshaw: Yeah, th William Ray: had Donald Croshaw: that's William Ray: discussion Donald Croshaw: weird. William Ray: really uh s really quicker. Robert Cosby: Yeah, because the prices uh could be twenty Euros or something William Ray: Yeah, Robert Cosby: now. William Ray: and if Robert Cosby: And William Ray: you Robert Cosby: then William Ray: had uh fifteen Euros, then we would it. We had Donald Croshaw: Hmm William Ray: to Donald Croshaw: hmm yeah. Robert Cosby: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Yeah, finance. Donald Croshaw: So we're bacal basically just lucky to uh William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: get the price right. Terrance Oberg: But the teamwork was okay. Robert Cosby: Yeah, uh everybody could speak their uh opinion. And uh William Ray: I think uh everyone listen to each other. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: Like marketing said things and then we had to i include them in the design. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. 'Kay. Yeah, what I have to say about uh means. The smart board is okay. Digital pen is horrible. I dunno if you use it. But if you want to download it to your computer, it's Robert Cosby: Yeah. William Ray: It Terrance Oberg: doesn't William Ray: was Terrance Oberg: work. William Ray: Just doesn't work. Terrance Oberg: No. William Ray: Well uh Robert Cosby: Digital pen or William Ray: smart board would be very uh Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: nice to work with, if it worked really well. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, i William Ray: Just Donald Croshaw: if William Ray: not Donald Croshaw: if Robert Cosby: Yeah, William Ray: work Donald Croshaw: it would William Ray: too slow. Donald Croshaw: be faster, Robert Cosby: the drawings William Ray: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: it would be Robert Cosby: are William Ray: more accurate. Donald Croshaw: great. Robert Cosby: are hard to make, I think. William Ray: Yeah, it's i It should be more accurate. Robert Cosby: Precise. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: And uh I think it would be great if you could edit it from, just with a mouse, from where you're sitting. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. William Ray: Not just pointing Terrance Oberg: It's William Ray: out Terrance Oberg: the same William Ray: on it. Terrance Oberg: for the presenta for the presentations. You can do it from here. That's much easier than standing there. William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: And so you've Donald Croshaw: Yeah, and p just point with a mouse. William Ray: No use to draw on the board itself. It's just slows down. Terrance Oberg: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Just old fashioned kinda William Ray: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: blackboard style. But Terrance Oberg: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: you Terrance Oberg: like. Donald Croshaw: might as well do it in normal computer style. William Ray: Yeah, even harder to draw like Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: this than Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: black board style. Donald Croshaw: And it's far too slow this way. William Ray: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: Okay. William Ray: You cou You could draw on it, but not as main function. Donald Croshaw: No. Terrance Oberg: I think Yeah, okay. Robert Cosby: Digital pen. Terrance Oberg: So we made it in time. And we made a remote control. William Ray: We did it. Terrance Oberg: In the budget, yeah. William Ray: New ideas found. Robert Cosby: New ideas. Donald Croshaw: What's that? William Ray: Oh Robert Cosby: For for for Terrance Oberg: I don't know what it mean. Just William Ray: I just think if we uh Robert Cosby: To gather, or to uh work together, uh or new ideas for William Ray: I dunno. Terrance Oberg: For remote control probably. No, for the project. William Ray: For remote control, a favourite for your text. Donald Croshaw: Hmm. Robert Cosby: No, for the prototype. New ideas. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, but still, you couldn't make a fancy a f you couldn't make a a prototype out of this. Because we don't have any sizes and Terrance Oberg: Yeah. But it's for the next team. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, Terrance Oberg: We don't William Ray: That's Donald Croshaw: but Terrance Oberg: have to Donald Croshaw: it William Ray: for. Terrance Oberg: do Donald Croshaw: You Terrance Oberg: that. Donald Croshaw: can't possibly do that in such a short time, I think. William Ray: Yeah, this this is just the idea phase, the Donald Croshaw: Yeah, just brainstorming basically. William Ray: Yeah. Details uh Donald Croshaw: So are we finished? Robert Cosby: Hmm. Terrance Oberg: Yes, I think just I just write a final report. Donald Croshaw: Okay. William Ray: Quite early. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Terrance Oberg: No, we have only four minutes left. Uh it's okay. Donald Croshaw: Oh okay. William Ray: Oh, what do we have to do now. Do we uh I thought we were done at four o'clock? Donald Croshaw: It's now quarter past three. So William Ray: Yep. Robert Cosby: I should take some pictures uh. Terrance Oberg: Okay. William Ray: Mm we can do it afterwards, Robert Cosby: Yes. William Ray: so Robert Cosby: Let's play minesweeper. William Ray: Yeah. I found it as well. Robert Cosby: Ti-din ti-din. William Ray: One two three four five six seven cameras. Mm not bad. William Ray: So that was it. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. Now we can look at this. William Ray: This is Donald Croshaw: We're probably not supposed to look at this, but William Ray: The old versions. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, from the previous group. William Ray: They went for uh for a universal Donald Croshaw: The touchscreen, William Ray: device. Donald Croshaw: yeah. William Ray: Yeah, but also a different device. Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: Then an L_C_D_ uh would be handy. Donald Croshaw: Hmm. Here are the basic functions in here, the selecting dev devices. William Ray: Yeah, and touch screens for all our stuff, yeah. Donald Croshaw: Hmm. William Ray: I do agree with that. William Ray: Yeah, tu-dum. English is not so hard by the way. Donald Croshaw: No. Robert Cosby: I'm breaking a world record here. William Ray: Well, leader? Robert Cosby: Oh William Ray: Project Robert Cosby: shit. William Ray: Manager? Robert Cosby: We've got a problem, Paul. William Ray: You do? Yeah, Robert Cosby: Yes. William Ray: you have to make a choice. Robert Cosby: No it's your choice. William Ray: Wow, that's pretty quick. Robert Cosby: Tu-dum. William Ray: Uh uh um Robert Cosby: Just pick one. William Ray: You have to decide. It's the lower one. Robert Cosby: What's this? A bomb or William Ray: No no, Robert Cosby: not William Ray: the upper one Robert Cosby: a William Ray: is the bomb. Robert Cosby: bo This the bomb? William Ray: Yes. Robert Cosby: Wrong. Shit. William Ray: I knew it. Robert Cosby: I knew it. Robert Cosby: Four in a row. William Ray: No. Robert Cosby: Uh. William Ray: That's too much work. Come on. Robert Cosby: Is that previous work? Donald Croshaw: Yeah, this one. William Ray: I challenge you. Robert Cosby: Oh, that's so stupid. No, that doesn't work. William Ray: No, you gotta use the magic pen. Hmm. What if I put one there? Robert Cosby: That's stupid. William Ray: We'll see. Robert Cosby: Okay. William Ray: I don't agree. Robert Cosby: Mm. Robert Cosby: Sorry. William Ray: Yeah, you had two choices. That's gonna be draw. Or not. Donald Croshaw: Hmm. Robert Cosby: Too bad. William Ray: I'll put it here. Robert Cosby: Yeah, then William Ray: You Robert Cosby: I William Ray: are Robert Cosby: put William Ray: going Robert Cosby: it William Ray: to Robert Cosby: there. William Ray: put it there. Then Robert Cosby: No one wins. William Ray: It's a difficult choice, either here or there. Donald Croshaw: This is a very interesting design. William Ray: Ugly. Robert Cosby: It's just the same as normal. William Ray: Oh a pen. Donald Croshaw: Well it has a L_C_D_, William Ray: Yeah, Donald Croshaw: I Robert Cosby: Okay. Donald Croshaw: think. William Ray: but Then do it correctly. Robert Cosby: Stupid Donald Croshaw: And Robert Cosby: design. Donald Croshaw: what Robert Cosby: Stupid. Donald Croshaw: else do William Ray: Stupid, Donald Croshaw: we have? William Ray: the L_C_D_ screen. Robert Cosby: 'Kay wait, I'm going to draw something and you must y William Ray: What? Okay, I'm going to guess what you're drawing. Robert Cosby: Okay, blank. William Ray: No no, the new one. Robert Cosby: Oh. William Ray: Uh they just don't save it. Robert Cosby: Um I know uh. William Ray: A house? Yeah, you have to use the pen s stupid. Terrance Oberg: You have to save everything, you know that, huh? William Ray: No, not everything. Robert Cosby: Oh. Donald Croshaw: Yeah, everything. William Ray: Pen, select Robert Cosby: Pen. William Ray: select pen. Donald Croshaw: It wants to know what we do in our spare time. William Ray: Okay. It's a house. A plant? Robert Cosby: No, it's Only you can know it. William Ray: Oh yeah, I can know it. It's a Robert Cosby: It's uh very hard to draw. William Ray: Okay, that makes it easier. I think I know. No, wrong. Robert Cosby: Mm. William Ray: I think I know what you're trying to draw, but it's wrong already. Robert Cosby: It's very William Ray: Yeah, you missed the right side. Robert Cosby: Fuck. F William Ray: No, you're wrong, you're wrong Robert Cosby: A little bit maybe, but William Ray: See where you're wrong now? The entrance. Robert Cosby: Yeah. Donald Croshaw: Warning. Finish meeting now. William Ray: Alright. Robert Cosby: Okay, the entrance is uh more to the left. Donald Croshaw: Warning. Warning. William Ray: You're correct. Robert Cosby: Okay. But but but I think this part William Ray: Yeah, but I think Oh no you made another mistake. Robert Cosby: Oh. Yeah, there are a lot of mistakes, because the walls are thick like this. William Ray: No I w Okay, I'm not that whiny. But uh there was a big hole here as well, and Robert Cosby: Oh, William Ray: there Robert Cosby: that's William Ray: as well. Robert Cosby: true. Uh here. William Ray: That's a kinda big mistake. Robert Cosby: Yeah, they're walking behind the walls. William Ray: Warning, finish meeting now. Guys, I think we have to finish the meeting. Donald Croshaw: Okay. Robert Cosby: 'Kay this is a hard one. William Ray: Uh? Donald Croshaw: Boom-boa-ring-bing. William Ray: What does it say? Donald Croshaw: Fill in the questionnaire. What now? William Ray: Come on. Terrance Oberg: Okay, Donald Croshaw: Okay. Terrance Oberg: yeah. William Ray: Yep. Robert Cosby: Okay. Donald Croshaw: No more chit-chat. William Ray: Oh you gotta finish Robert Cosby: Che-che-che-che. William Ray: over there? Donald Croshaw: Yeah. William Ray: In your own room? Robert Cosby: Tu-dumm. William Ray: I'm gonna be so lonely. Robert Cosby: Uh. William Ray: Mm I'll clean that up later. Robert Cosby: This is That's my new interface. William Ray: What's that? Robert Cosby: That's a uh edited smiley. Robert Cosby: Tom-ti-dom. Uh. Donald Croshaw: Okay.	Terrance Oberg presented the agenda and the minutes from the previous meeting. The group discussed speech recognition , whether the remote should slide open or fold open, and what type of chip they should use. The designers presented the prototype, which resembles an ipod in appearance, and is made of transparent coloured plastic. The colours will be changeable. The remote has both buttons and a scroll wheel. The number buttons have a back-light. The group discussed adding extra buttons/functions. The prototype was evaluated and received an average overall score of 1.8. Terrance Oberg went through the finances, and the total cost came to 12.3 euros, although this did not include the cost of the recharger, which was not on the price list. The group evaluated the project process, and were generally pleased with their creativity and teamwork, but were unsatisfied with the equipment.	3	amisum	train
John Lantz: Good morning, again. Miguel Chang: One question. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Choose Miguel Chang: Send. Leonardo Tindle: a number? Miguel Chang: Submit. Pedro Kenney: Yep yep yep yep. John Lantz: All Miguel Chang: Mm. John Lantz: set? Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: Good Okay. Let's see what we can find here. Okay. A very warm welcome again to everyone. Um here we are already at our uh functional design meeting. Um and this is what we are going to do. The opening, which we are doing now, um and the special note, I'm project manager but on the meetings I'm also the secretary, which means I will make uh minutes as I did of the previous meeting. And uh I put these as fast as possible in the uh project folder, so you can see them and review what we have discussed. Um if I'm right, there are three presentations, I guess each one of you has prepared one? Leonardo Tindle: Yes. John Lantz: Good. And um we will also take a look at new project requirements, um if you haven't heard about them yet. And then of course we have to take a decision on the remote control functions and we have some more time, forty minutes. But I think we will need it. Um well I don't know who wants to go first with his presentation. Miguel Chang: I'll go first. Okay. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: I'll go first Leonardo Tindle: Well. John Lantz: You Miguel Chang: yeah. John Lantz: can go first, okay. Pedro Kenney: Well, shall I go first with the users? Leonardo Tindle: Well Pedro Kenney: I think well okay no problem. John Lantz: Is there Leonardo Tindle: everybody John Lantz: an order? I Leonardo Tindle: already John Lantz: haven't Leonardo Tindle: has Pedro Kenney: Ja Leonardo Tindle: his presentation, Pedro Kenney: precies, ja precies, Leonardo Tindle: so Miguel Chang: So. Pedro Kenney: ja precies Leonardo Tindle: you can adjust Miguel Chang: Huh? Leonardo Tindle: it. Miguel Chang: Okay, um John Lantz: And one question, uh your name Denni, is it with a Pedro Kenney: E_I_E_. John Lantz: I_E_ E_I_E_, okay. Thank you. Miguel Chang: Okay, um I wanted to explain the working design of the remote control. It's possibly very handy if you want to uh design one of those. Um well so it basically works uh as I uh uh r wrote down uh in this uh little uh summary. Uh you press a button, uh that's when you do pr example when you uh want to turn up the volume, um a little connection is made uh the the rubber uh button just presses on a John Lantz: Sorry. Miguel Chang: on a little print plate uh which uh makes uh uh a connection that uh gives the chips, uh which is uh mounted beneath those uh that plastic of a rubber button. Uh senses that a connection has been made, and know and knows what button you pressed, becau uh for example the the volume up or volume down button. Um uh the the chip uh makes a Morse code uh like uh signal which uh then is si uh signalled to uh several transistors which makes uh which sends the signal to a little let. You know what a let is? Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Okay. And that makes uh the the infra-red lights signal which is sent to the television set. Uh which has a sensor in it to uh sense uh the signal of the infra-red. That's basically uh how it works. Um the findings uh uh that I found uh searching up some uh detailed information about the remote controls, are that uh they are very easy to produce, uh it is pis uh it's possible to uh make them in mass production because it is as eas it is as easy as uh printing a page, uh just uh fibreglass plate um is b uh is uh covered with uh some uh coatings and uh uh and chips. Uh and the technology's already available, we don't have to find out how remote controls uh have to work or uh how that how uh to make some chips that are possible to uh to to transmit those uh signals. Uh I made a little uh uh animation of about how a tran our Leonardo Tindle: Oh Miguel Chang: uh Leonardo Tindle: right. Miguel Chang: remote controller works. Pedro Kenney: Animation. Miguel Chang: we tel Leonardo Tindle: There is something turning. Miguel Chang: There. John Lantz: Yeah, it's a little bug it's in the in the smart board. Miguel Chang: Okay. Uh well the sub-component, I suppose that you understand what a sub-component is, is f in this example it's the button. Uh when it is pressed down, um, the switch is ter is uh is switched on, so with uh the wire is sent to the to the chip in uh co-operation with the battery of course, because to make uh a a signal possible you have to have some sort of uh li uh a d ad uh electronic uh Pedro Kenney: Infrared light. Miguel Chang: Yes, uh, okay. Um w after it's being composed by the chip uh the signal uh is transported uh to the infra-red bulb, and from there it signals a Morse code-like signal to the to the b to the bulb in uh in the television set. Okay. S Uh I wrote down some personal preferences about uh the remote control. Of course it is very handy if the remote control is hand held, so you don't have to uh uh wind it up or something, or just is it's it's very light to uh to make uh to use it. Uh I personally uh pref prefer that uh it would be p uh come available in the various colours, and uh easy to use buttons. But I suppose that the one of the other team members Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, I've got Miguel Chang: uh Leonardo Tindle: it there too. Miguel Chang: uh thought of that uh too. And it is possible for several designs and um easy to use b uh sorry, easy to use buttons. Perhaps soft touch, uh touch screen uh buttons because uh the rubber buttons are always uh uh they uh slightly uh they can be slightly damaged, uh so the numbers on the buttons are not possible uh to read anymore. And uh well as I said uh before th uh we can uh make several designs. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Okay, well, that's my contribution to this meeting, and uh Pedro Kenney: To this meeting. John Lantz: Okay, Miguel Chang: two John Lantz: thank Miguel Chang: of John Lantz: you. Miguel Chang: these this Leonardo Tindle: Shall Miguel Chang: meeting. Leonardo Tindle: I go uh next? John Lantz: Yep. Miguel Chang: So. Leonardo Tindle: 'Kay. John Lantz: Please. Leonardo Tindle: So. Pedro Kenney: Smoking. Leonardo Tindle: Well uh, my name's, and I looked at uh technical functions design of the remote. Uh I did this by uh looking at examples other remote controls, of how they uh they look, and information from the web that I found. Um well what I found was that uh th the actual use of the remote control is to send messages to television set, how you uh d what you described uh just early. And this can be all sorts of medsa messages, turn it on, turn it off, uh change the channel, adjust volume, that kind of thing. Uh play video, teletext, but also t uh play C_D_ if you use it your C_D_ player the remote control will that one. There are some uh examples of remote controls. You can see they are very different. The one has got all the functions that you could possibly need and an lot of uh buttons etcetera. And the other is uh more user friendly, little with big buttons. And uh not n all the the the the stuff you can do with it, but uh the the essential stuff is there. Um I guess you could better y you should look at a a user centred uh approach, because the customers have to use them and and if they don't think it's usable they won't uh buy it. A lot of buttons they may think from I don't need s as much as that. Uh, well perf personal preferences is is uh a simple remote, with uh the basic functions that you can need that you could use. But uh keep in mind the new functions of T_V_ what we discussed earlier, split screen and uh is that a function that you should have? Because all the T_V_s will have them. Or because of only a few and isn't really necessary. And then uh make it I would make so that you can could uh use it on more than one appliance. If you have one that uh uh does with the vi the the video, it could also work with uh with the stereo, because play is play and stop stop and that sort of thing. The shu c you could reuse the buttons so that you don't have to have a lot of buttons for uh anything. And it should be a user friendly, clear buttons, and not too much. And that is my presentation. John Lantz: Okay, Miguel Chang: Okay. John Lantz: thank you. Pedro Kenney: 'Kay. Check. Leonardo Tindle: You must still have it open. Pedro Kenney: Kijke Pedro Kenney: 'Kay, so. We're going to j discuss the functional requirements of the remote, that m that means that functions user n want to have on the remote control, or just Yeah, and the users, actually. The methods I I prefer is we're going to look which section of the users we are going to focus a l on more. Are the younger people going to buy the remote control or the elderly people? And then tho that section we're going to focus and adjust the remote more to that section than the whole user section. Okay. Some data. Younger people, from sixteen to thir forty five um years are more interested in fj features like L_C_D_ screens, speech recognition e etcetera. And we possess about two third of the market from in that range of age. The elderly people, from forty five years to sixty five years are not that much interested in features, and we possess less than two third, that's two fifth, of the market share in that area. Goed so. Miguel Chang: Hmm. Pedro Kenney: 'Kay. Findings. Fifty percent of the users lose their remote often. So we don't have to make it very small, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: like uh like a mobile phone or something, but some somewhat bi bigger than small, so you don't lose it that much anymore. Seventy five percent of the users also find it ugly, Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: and fif seventy five of the users zap a lot, so the buttons sh should be that small, or shouldn't be that complex because we have to search for the buttons, which one are you going to use. Next. Important issues about the remote. I think it would be better with a personal reference, but okay. Remote control has to have to have a low power usage, because s w seventy five percent of the users only zap one time an hour, so the power usage is also one one time an hour, or so, with a high power usage we would use a lot of but batteries. The volume button and the channel buttons are the two most important buttons on the remote control, so those they those have to h be find very easily. And have to be somewhat like bigger etcetera. It has also be have to find easily when the label is gone. My colleague Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: also announced it that labels should be scratched off Leonardo Tindle: Hmm. Pedro Kenney: or would be s uh senden okay. So uh if that's k uh if that's the problem, you also have to find it easily on the remote. Buttons. Like what all colleagues said, have to have to be minimalized. or should be covered, or in L_C_D_ screen. L_C_D_ screen is easy because we have the L_C_D_ screen, we have the various options. Put one option and then you have the all the buttons of that options, so the other options would be gone. And you don't see the buttons. So L_C_D_ screens should be easy, but an L_C_D_ screen, the problem with the L_ sc L_C_D_ screen is that elderly people fr from forty five to for sixty five years don't use the L_C_D_ screen a lot. So we have to that keep that in mind that if you're going to implement L_C_D_ screen, you don't have to make it that hard to learn or to use. Miguel Chang: Uh L_C_D_ screen as in uh touch screen? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, touch screen, Miguel Chang: Okay. Pedro Kenney: yeah. The last but not least, younger people are more critical about the features. Because they use the remote control often more often, and are more technical than the ol older people. And the older people spend more money, Leonardo Tindle: Mm. Pedro Kenney: and easily on a remote control. Miguel Chang: 'Kay. Pedro Kenney: So we have to keep in mind to to focus not a lot not that much on the younger pep younger people, but also somewhat on the elderly people. And on my personal preferences, I don't have any mo more time to come with that, but like I said, L_C_D_ screen is easily to use because you have you can implement a lot of buttons in one remote with not that much buttons. And it should be easy to use. Especially the volume buttons, the channel buttes buttons and the number buttons to zap through the channels. And that is it. Miguel Chang: Okay. John Lantz: Okay, Leonardo Tindle: Oh right. John Lantz: thank you. Um, well thank you all, huh. I dunno uh did everyone receive an email with uh the new project requirements? Leonardo Tindle: No. John Lantz: No? Well, Leonardo Tindle: Res I did not. Miguel Chang: No. Leonardo Tindle: Perhaps the rest? John Lantz: then I think it's a good thing Pedro Kenney: Ja, John Lantz: that I made a separate slide of them so you can all read them. Oh, well not in this presentation. Hmm. Should be in there. Well, I can tell you them uh from my laptop. Um teletext does has become outdated since the popularity Leonardo Tindle: Oh. John Lantz: of the internet. So that's uh the first thing we I think we should pay less attention to uh teletext. Uh the remote control should only be used for the television, otherwise the project becomes more complex, which endangers the time to market, and of course would make it more costly, I think. Um our current customers are within the age group of forty plus, and new product should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty, and you talked about that before. And uh a last point, but also very important, our corporate image should stay recognisable in our products, which means that our uh corporate colour and slogan must be implemented in the new design. So we have to keep that in mind. Um well uh according to our agenda it's then time to take a decision on the remote control functions. Leonardo Tindle: Mm. John Lantz: So, who has any idea about what should be on it, and what shouldn't? Leonardo Tindle: Well you said it should only Pedro Kenney: Be television. Leonardo Tindle: uh work with one appliance? Or with one uh d che only the T_V_? John Lantz: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: Only be used Leonardo Tindle: And John Lantz: for television. Leonardo Tindle: the video also, or not uh? Pedro Kenney: Only John Lantz: Well Pedro Kenney: the John Lantz: it Pedro Kenney: television. John Lantz: says only for television here, Leonardo Tindle: Oh. John Lantz: huh. Leonardo Tindle: Alright. Okay. John Lantz: Makes it a lot easier, huh? Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: So yeah, then you can yeah. Requirements, no? Functions. John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Leonardo Tindle: Then it should Miguel Chang: Yeah for Leonardo Tindle: have uh on, off, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Standby Leonardo Tindle: and Pedro Kenney: the Leonardo Tindle: uh Pedro Kenney: basics Miguel Chang: options, yeah? Pedro Kenney: then by a volume, channel, one till two zero Miguel Chang: Uh yeah. Pedro Kenney: numbers on it, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. And per Pedro Kenney: oh teletext Leonardo Tindle: perhaps uh Pedro Kenney: doesn't have to be? Leonardo Tindle: No. Pedro Kenney: Um Leonardo Tindle: Well uh uh Pedro Kenney: other functions. Leonardo Tindle: yes yes s Pedro Kenney: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: sh A button Pedro Kenney: I had Leonardo Tindle: where you can uh change from one number to two Miguel Chang: Two Leonardo Tindle: numbers. Miguel Chang: s two Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: two digits, Pedro Kenney: yeah. Miguel Chang: oh Leonardo Tindle: Can Miguel Chang: okay. Leonardo Tindle: you Don't know Miguel Chang: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: if Miguel Chang: I Leonardo Tindle: that's Miguel Chang: understand Leonardo Tindle: got a name, Miguel Chang: what Pedro Kenney: I Miguel Chang: you Pedro Kenney: think Leonardo Tindle: but Miguel Chang: mean. Pedro Kenney: it's I Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: think it's easy to implement a button with a s s what which especially do that, because some T_V_s, if you press the t one and then the two, Miguel Chang: It makes Pedro Kenney: it Miguel Chang: it twelve, Pedro Kenney: be between Miguel Chang: yeah. Pedro Kenney: five secs it make twelve, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: and that's Miguel Chang: Indeed. Leonardo Tindle: S Miguel Chang: Okay. Pedro Kenney: that's not relaxed Miguel Chang: Well, not Pedro Kenney: to Miguel Chang: really Pedro Kenney: user. Miguel Chang: And and there are some models that don't uh accommodate that function. So Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: d uh wh the Philip's television makes it possible in that indeed to uh press one and then two to Pedro Kenney: So Miguel Chang: make Pedro Kenney: that Miguel Chang: uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: the Pedro Kenney: it easy Miguel Chang: uh tj Pedro Kenney: and Miguel Chang: to reach Pedro Kenney: fast. Miguel Chang: channel twelve. But Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: uh all the television makes uh use of those button Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: where you first press that button and then press two digits to uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, so you Miguel Chang: to get Leonardo Tindle: should have that one on. Miguel Chang: Uh yeah, think so. Leonardo Tindle: Mute misschien Pedro Kenney: plus, or? Leonardo Tindle: also. Miguel Chang: Mm. John Lantz: Uh well new product should reach a market with customers that are younger than forty, and now Pedro Kenney: Forties, John Lantz: we have Pedro Kenney: okay John Lantz: current Pedro Kenney: because John Lantz: customers uh of forty plus. Pedro Kenney: because younger people as Uh younger people have now, sixteen till to twenty five age, are f eighty one percent interested in L_C_D_ screen. From twenty six to thirty five have sixty six percent, and thirty six to forty five, fifty five percent, so I think to um Because on most recog remote controls um the print plate will be broken how much, two years. You have to press h very hard Miguel Chang: Mm-hmm. Pedro Kenney: to go to the John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Pedro Kenney: next channel. With the L_C_D_ screen it's easier because you only have to wipe the screen to uh Miguel Chang: Yeah, we we Pedro Kenney: for Miguel Chang: could Pedro Kenney: fingerprint, Miguel Chang: yeah. Pedro Kenney: and then you Miguel Chang: But Pedro Kenney: can Miguel Chang: I Pedro Kenney: use Miguel Chang: think Pedro Kenney: it Miguel Chang: that Pedro Kenney: again. Miguel Chang: uh that collides with our mission to make it very cheap. Because Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: L_C_D_ Pedro Kenney: okay. Miguel Chang: screens are very expensive. Pedro Kenney: Yeah but Miguel Chang: A touch Pedro Kenney: a Miguel Chang: screen Pedro Kenney: you don't Leonardo Tindle: An Pedro Kenney: know Miguel Chang: uh probably uh even more. So, Pedro Kenney: True. Miguel Chang: true, true. But uh Well um an L_C_D_ screen uh, how was the information? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, it only says that this perce percentage like L_C_D_ screen. Because, yeah and it says that younger age between sixteen and forty five highly interesting features more critical. Miguel Chang: So Pedro Kenney: And if Miguel Chang: perhaps Pedro Kenney: the only f Miguel Chang: we should we should focus on that L_C_D_ screen. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, because our target is sixteen to forty five. Leonardo Tindle: But, Miguel Chang: Yeah but uh will Leonardo Tindle: do you Miguel Chang: we not uh exceed our uh our Pedro Kenney: Yeah you don't Miguel Chang: uh production Pedro Kenney: know how much it costs. Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah, you don't know how much it costs, the L_C_D_ screen. Miguel Chang: Is it possible to find out, anyway? Pedro Kenney: No, I don't have Miguel Chang: You Pedro Kenney: any Miguel Chang: know? Pedro Kenney: costs here, I only have percentages. Leonardo Tindle: But if you would do an L_C_D_ screen do we have don don't you have any buttons? Or because Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: if it only directs at the T_V_, then you only have uh I don't know what you want to Miguel Chang: No, an Leonardo Tindle: do Miguel Chang: L_C_D_ Leonardo Tindle: with Miguel Chang: screen's Leonardo Tindle: the L_C_D_ Miguel Chang: just Leonardo Tindle: screen. Miguel Chang: like uh like a drawn here. Um just uh displays several buttons, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah? Miguel Chang: for example um if you wanted the minimal uh use b uh buttons, such as channel and volume, you just h uh displays four buttons on the screen Leonardo Tindle: Oh right, Miguel Chang: and Leonardo Tindle: so you Miguel Chang: it's Leonardo Tindle: can Miguel Chang: possible to p uh press them down, Leonardo Tindle: Oh, Miguel Chang: just like a touch screen. Leonardo Tindle: yeah alright. So you can adjust which buttons you want on that Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: s Pedro Kenney: if Leonardo Tindle: screen. Miguel Chang: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: you Miguel Chang: we Pedro Kenney: want Miguel Chang: can make Pedro Kenney: to adjust, Miguel Chang: it possible Pedro Kenney: like Miguel Chang: to do that, Pedro Kenney: for Miguel Chang: yeah. Pedro Kenney: example, adjust the audio settings, you press audio on the touchscreen and you get Miguel Chang: Yeah Pedro Kenney: the buttons for Miguel Chang: yeah. Pedro Kenney: audio settings, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah alright, oh right. Pedro Kenney: so the other buttons are gone. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Yeah, yeah. John Lantz: So we're going for an L_C_D_ screen? Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: I Leonardo Tindle: Would Pedro Kenney: think Leonardo Tindle: be yeah. Pedro Kenney: it's the most Miguel Chang: That's Pedro Kenney: easier Miguel Chang: my Pedro Kenney: thing, Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: yeah. John Lantz: And hoping that when we produce a lot it won't be too expensive. Pedro Kenney: No. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: Well we had twelve fifty, I guess, Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: for uh Miguel Chang: Twelve Leonardo Tindle: production? Miguel Chang: fifty. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. I dunno how expensive an Miguel Chang: Um. Leonardo Tindle: L_C_D_ screen is. Any guesses? Miguel Chang: Well I suppose wi if the mar if our um if the i if the young people are interested in L_C_D_ screens, we should Pedro Kenney: Highly. Miguel Chang: make 'em. John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Miguel Chang: And Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: if that is Leonardo Tindle: But Miguel Chang: our d uh market share to uh and our goal to uh deliver those uh remote Leonardo Tindle: But Miguel Chang: controls Leonardo Tindle: he also said that we should not only focus on the younger people, but also on the older, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: and will Pedro Kenney: but Leonardo Tindle: they use it if it only has an Pedro Kenney: Um, Leonardo Tindle: L_C_D_ screen? Pedro Kenney: s forty six to forty five, thirty three percent, and sixty fifty six to sixty five twelve percent. But Leonardo Tindle: Oh, so Pedro Kenney: our Leonardo Tindle: still a little Pedro Kenney: our Leonardo Tindle: bit people Pedro Kenney: our what's it, project requirements are the new products should be reached for new Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: markets, to customers that are Leonardo Tindle: Yeah Pedro Kenney: younger Leonardo Tindle: that's Pedro Kenney: than forty. Leonardo Tindle: right. But you don't want to alienate the other uh Pedro Kenney: No, that not now, but, so Leonardo Tindle: But if they also buy it then it's alright. I guess. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, but market share fro for for Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: forty years and younger is higher than that of sixty five Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: and younger. Leonardo Tindle: Alright. John Lantz: Okay, so Leonardo Tindle: An John Lantz: L_C_D_ it is? Leonardo Tindle: Yes. Miguel Chang: Mm. John Lantz: Okay. Miguel Chang: It's treasure. John Lantz: And Miguel Chang: I John Lantz: what Miguel Chang: hope John Lantz: else? Miguel Chang: we uh h and Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: let's Pedro Kenney: i Miguel Chang: hope to Pedro Kenney: i if Miguel Chang: reach Pedro Kenney: it Miguel Chang: those uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah, if it costs Miguel Chang: those sales. Pedro Kenney: gets too much, too expensive, then yeah, we should be sticking to rubber buttons. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Yeah, can you um uh s I think that that they will send you some information about uh the cost of L_C_D_ uh Pedro Kenney: N Miguel Chang: screens. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: nothing, no costs at all. Miguel Chang: Uh Leonardo Tindle: But Miguel Chang: so if Leonardo Tindle: perhaps Miguel Chang: you Leonardo Tindle: later, Miguel Chang: uh Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: so uh Miguel Chang: so if you uh you receive an email about that, uh can you post it in the Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: or shouldn't Pedro Kenney: in Miguel Chang: we post that in uh our projects mail uh folder. Pedro Kenney: I think Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: that should yeah I think we all get the costs of everything. Leonardo Tindle: I Miguel Chang: Because you are Leonardo Tindle: don't Miguel Chang: the the Marketing uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Expert. Pedro Kenney: okay, I'll I'll Miguel Chang: I Pedro Kenney: post Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: it. Leonardo Tindle: Well perhaps we should have a backup plan that we would use buttons Miguel Chang: Yeah sure, Leonardo Tindle: if it's Miguel Chang: sure. Leonardo Tindle: uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah. John Lantz: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: too expensive. John Lantz: okay. But for now Pedro Kenney: Okay, John Lantz: it's L_C_D_. Pedro Kenney: L_C_D_, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: yeah. John Lantz: Okay. Pedro Kenney: Then you have the seventy five percent of users find it r ugly. Leonardo Tindle: The L_C_D_? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: Oh Pedro Kenney: and Leonardo Tindle: that's Pedro Kenney: eighty Leonardo Tindle: a Pedro Kenney: percent Leonardo Tindle: bit of a problem. Pedro Kenney: of the users would spend more money with a when a remote would look fancy. Leonardo Tindle: Oh, that's Miguel Chang: Mm. Leonardo Tindle: a bit of a problem. Pedro Kenney: Tha i l i it'll look fancy with Miguel Chang: It's Pedro Kenney: L_C_D_ Miguel Chang: looks fancy Pedro Kenney: screen. Miguel Chang: one yeah, of L_C_D_ Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, but Miguel Chang: screen. Leonardo Tindle: they Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: don't they John Lantz: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: don't like it. They think it's ugly. When it has an L_C_D_ Pedro Kenney: Yeah, just Leonardo Tindle: screen. Pedro Kenney: a the plain remotes, not not specific L_C_D_ remotes. Leonardo Tindle: Oh, alright, I thought that you said that. Pedro Kenney: So John Lantz: Yeah, and maybe you can make something fancy out of an L_C_D_ remote, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: because it's new, Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. John Lantz: as far as I know. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Mm yeah. Pedro Kenney: of course. And Miguel Chang: And Pedro Kenney: then Miguel Chang: then Pedro Kenney: you have Miguel Chang: not Pedro Kenney: the other Miguel Chang: yeah. Pedro Kenney: thing, that seventy five percent zap a lot, but that's Miguel Chang: Um. Pedro Kenney: not a f question with the L_C_D_ screen. Only thing you have to do is wipe the screen off once each time, Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: to get all the fingerprints off it. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Mm. Okay? John Lantz: Okay, what else does our remote need? Pedro Kenney: Um Leonardo Tindle: A mute button. John Lantz: Mute button. Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. Leonardo Tindle: I think. Pedro Kenney: The most important Leonardo Tindle: And Pedro Kenney: things on a f on an on an uh remote control are channel selection, volume con selection, Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: and power s power usage. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: And a teletext, but that Leonardo Tindle: But Pedro Kenney: is not of the question. Other things are Leonardo Tindle: you put a button of Pedro Kenney: Sorry? Leonardo Tindle: for teletext on the for the people who want to use it? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, it Leonardo Tindle: Remembering Pedro Kenney: could be. Leonardo Tindle: we have got a big remote Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: that you have to fill. John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and we could make an a a separate menu on the L_C_D_ Pedro Kenney: Yeah, teletext. John Lantz: uh Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: screen Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: for teletext. Miguel Chang: And there's Pedro Kenney: And Miguel Chang: also Pedro Kenney: other Miguel Chang: a Pedro Kenney: other less important things are screen settings, audio settings, and channel settings, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, they Pedro Kenney: but Leonardo Tindle: are less important, but I think they should Pedro Kenney: Less important. Leonardo Tindle: be there, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: or not? Pedro Kenney: should be there, but not Miguel Chang: A sh but in a sub sub-menu Pedro Kenney: press Miguel Chang: or Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: something Pedro Kenney: sub-menu, Miguel Chang: like that. Pedro Kenney: yeah. Miguel Chang: Uh I think it's also important to uh make it possible to um how do you call it in English, uh, to not use batteries, and use ac uh bat uh batteries to uh John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Leonardo Tindle: Like with Miguel Chang: to be Leonardo Tindle: a with Miguel Chang: yeah Leonardo Tindle: a mouse, you Miguel Chang: yeah sure. Leonardo Tindle: have not, Miguel Chang: Indeed. Leonardo Tindle: yeah. Miguel Chang: So uh you can mount uh the the the uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah, in a breath it's Miguel Chang: uh the remote control to um John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Pedro Kenney: Charted. Leonardo Tindle: We should think Miguel Chang: to refill Leonardo Tindle: of the twelve fifty Miguel Chang: the Leonardo Tindle: we have but Pedro Kenney: Yeah, but we don't Leonardo Tindle: I Pedro Kenney: we Leonardo Tindle: don't Pedro Kenney: don't Leonardo Tindle: know Pedro Kenney: have Leonardo Tindle: how Pedro Kenney: any Leonardo Tindle: much Pedro Kenney: costs Leonardo Tindle: that's Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: going Pedro Kenney: now, so Leonardo Tindle: to uh Miguel Chang: Okay, Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: because i uh when you get an L_C_D_ screen, you run it on batteries, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: the batteries will be uh empty Pedro Kenney: Yeah Miguel Chang: very Pedro Kenney: e Miguel Chang: soon, Pedro Kenney: e power Miguel Chang: very Pedro Kenney: supply Miguel Chang: fast. Pedro Kenney: is one of Leonardo Tindle: You Pedro Kenney: the Leonardo Tindle: should Pedro Kenney: most important things. Leonardo Tindle: Perhaps you should be able to Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: to switch the control off. If you have an L_C_D_ screen that's burns all the time I dunno. Miguel Chang: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: You shouldn't on and off because that's ver extra, that you have t first you have to turn the remote on, and then you can uh John Lantz: Mm-hmm. Miguel Chang: Uh Leonardo Tindle: I don't Pedro Kenney: Yeah, I Leonardo Tindle: know. Pedro Kenney: think it's it's not that easy because I don't think people will like it who who uh that you have to turn it on Leonardo Tindle: Nee Pedro Kenney: first Leonardo Tindle: that's Pedro Kenney: and then Leonardo Tindle: that's Pedro Kenney: use it, so Leonardo Tindle: uh yeah. Pedro Kenney: I think it's better when th the T_V_ shuts down, the remote shuts down. Leonardo Tindle: But Miguel Chang: And Leonardo Tindle: then you Miguel Chang: go Leonardo Tindle: can't Miguel Chang: to standby mode when you don't use Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: it, so that Leonardo Tindle: Yeah yeah au automac matically, that it Miguel Chang: Yeah, automatically. Leonardo Tindle: yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: After two Pedro Kenney: After Miguel Chang: minutes Pedro Kenney: two Miguel Chang: or three Pedro Kenney: minutes, yeah Miguel Chang: minutes, Pedro Kenney: two three Miguel Chang: something Pedro Kenney: minutes, Miguel Chang: like Pedro Kenney: yeah. Miguel Chang: that. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: Yeah. And maybe a low battery indicator? Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: On the screen. Miguel Chang: Sure. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. And then b that uh before an hour when its get again gets empty. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Then you have plenty of time to recharge it, of put Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: it in a recharger. Charger. John Lantz: So we are going for the for the recharger. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, John Lantz: Okay. Pedro Kenney: if it's. Uh. Leonardo Tindle: If it's sensible. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, because when you're watching T_V_, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: you're zapping and you have to put it in a recharger, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: and I don't Leonardo Tindle: b when Miguel Chang: No, Pedro Kenney: think Leonardo Tindle: the Pedro Kenney: it Leonardo Tindle: batteries Miguel Chang: when you Leonardo Tindle: are low Miguel Chang: when you're done with s uh w uh Pedro Kenney: Yeah, okay, but then we Miguel Chang: watching Pedro Kenney: have to be Miguel Chang: your Pedro Kenney: sure Miguel Chang: television, Pedro Kenney: that the Miguel Chang: you Pedro Kenney: the Miguel Chang: have Pedro Kenney: the Miguel Chang: to put Pedro Kenney: the batteries Miguel Chang: it Pedro Kenney: go hours, six hours, five, Miguel Chang: Yeah sure, Pedro Kenney: six hours, Leonardo Tindle: But you'll Miguel Chang: of course. Pedro Kenney: then. Leonardo Tindle: also forget to put it in, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, then Leonardo Tindle: because Miguel Chang: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: you have Leonardo Tindle: you Miguel Chang: but Pedro Kenney: a problem. Leonardo Tindle: throw it on the couch and you don't remember. Miguel Chang: But you also forget to buy batteries, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. That's Miguel Chang: and Leonardo Tindle: right. Miguel Chang: then you can you can't use it, so Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: I Pedro Kenney: Or we have to be sure that the batteries last couple of days when they're recharged. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: So. Leonardo Tindle: Well I think the batteries should should w should work a lot longer than a couple of days, Pedro Kenney: Yeah because Leonardo Tindle: or not? Pedro Kenney: you have b but Leonardo Tindle: 'Cause Pedro Kenney: you have L_C_D_ screen. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, that's right, Pedro Kenney: High power Leonardo Tindle: but Pedro Kenney: usage. Miguel Chang: High power user cell, i uh it should be uh a standard move to to put your remote control in the charger when you're done Pedro Kenney: Yes. Miguel Chang: watching television, that's also a a a great advantage because you can't lose it anymore. Because you are Pedro Kenney: True. Miguel Chang: obliged to uh put it in the charger Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Yeah. Miguel Chang: and not Pedro Kenney: True. Miguel Chang: to uh leave it in a couch uh between some cushions. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Right. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Okay. Pedro Kenney: you made a point there. Leonardo Tindle: But John Lantz: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: then you also John Lantz: also. Leonardo Tindle: have to s have somewhere where you can put a remo recharger near your couch because otherwise you have to Pedro Kenney: Yeah, otherwise Leonardo Tindle: walk Pedro Kenney: all Leonardo Tindle: a Pedro Kenney: your Leonardo Tindle: long Pedro Kenney: yeah. Leonardo Tindle: way when you twoft want to turn on the T_V_. Pedro Kenney: Just a small device. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Yeah it Pedro Kenney: Plug Leonardo Tindle: I think Miguel Chang: hasn't Pedro Kenney: it in, Miguel Chang: It Leonardo Tindle: everything Miguel Chang: doesn't Pedro Kenney: that's Miguel Chang: have Pedro Kenney: it. Leonardo Tindle: has Miguel Chang: to be big. Leonardo Tindle: it Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: for Pedro Kenney: like a Leonardo Tindle: and Pedro Kenney: like Leonardo Tindle: I Pedro Kenney: telephone Leonardo Tindle: guess. Pedro Kenney: charger or something. Miguel Chang: Yeah just just a cable, or Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: a even a a a a a charger where you can mount it on. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Something like that, just u Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Okay. Leonardo Tindle: Alright. John Lantz: Okay, well Pedro Kenney: It has to be John Lantz: I've Pedro Kenney: easy to use also, or John Lantz: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: things. John Lantz: you have some more points. Pedro Kenney: Uh market share, speaker re speech recognition. I think. Miguel Chang: Functional designs uh for the elderly uh you could make it possible to enlarge the screen, so make Pedro Kenney: Also. Miguel Chang: it possible to not uh display uh a button at ten points uh, Pedro Kenney: Well I Miguel Chang: or Pedro Kenney: think that this should be standard. Large Miguel Chang: Yeah but it is Pedro Kenney: button Miguel Chang: uh one Pedro Kenney: large Miguel Chang: of the functions Pedro Kenney: buttons. Miguel Chang: you have to uh specify. Pedro Kenney: Yeah? Okay. Miguel Chang: Because we can look at uh uh perhaps uh forty buttons at a screen, but the elderly only look at two buttons. Okay. John Lantz: And you said something about speech recognition? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, it Miguel Chang: Speech Pedro Kenney: says also Miguel Chang: recognition? Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Hello. Twelve Euro twelve Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: Twelve. Leonardo Tindle: twelve Miguel Chang: Euro Leonardo Tindle: fifty, Miguel Chang: fifty. Leonardo Tindle: twelve fifty. Pedro Kenney: That's an also ninety one percent sixteen to twenty five, twenty six to thirty five years, seventy six percent, and thirty six to forty five, thirty five percent. Leonardo Tindle: So it's pretty Miguel Chang: Well, Leonardo Tindle: big. Miguel Chang: spread Pedro Kenney: But Miguel Chang: it by a Pedro Kenney: then Miguel Chang: big Pedro Kenney: I Miguel Chang: market. Pedro Kenney: I I John Lantz: Even bigger than for L_C_D_. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: W I know let's do a speech. Miguel Chang: Well let's leave out all the remote controls and just put a Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: microphone Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: on top Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: of the television to Pedro Kenney: Ninety. Twenty five. Leonardo Tindle: You can clap Miguel Chang: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: or something. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: channel. Miguel Chang: Turn volume up. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Hey, that that's an idea. Leonardo Tindle: Now you shouldn't say the wrong thing, I dunno. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Okay, well that should it has to be remote control, not Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: twelve. Leonardo Tindle: But they want to talk into the remo remote Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: control, Miguel Chang: Sure Leonardo Tindle: or Miguel Chang: why Leonardo Tindle: something, Miguel Chang: not Leonardo Tindle: or? Pedro Kenney: Is Miguel Chang: why Pedro Kenney: this Miguel Chang: not Pedro Kenney: only would you would you pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. It's Miguel Chang: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: the only thing it says. Miguel Chang: mm. Leonardo Tindle: Oh, but do we want to implement that, or? Pedro Kenney: I think an L_C_D_ screen should be suf sufficient. Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: But when you look at the percentages Pedro Kenney: Yeah, it says a lot, but Miguel Chang: Perhaps the options John Lantz: Speech Miguel Chang: should John Lantz: recognition Miguel Chang: be uh John Lantz: scores even higher, huh? Miguel Chang: Why not? John Lantz: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Why not? John Lantz: well, maybe because of the cost, but uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: nobody knows uh how Miguel Chang: Let's John Lantz: much Miguel Chang: hope uh John Lantz: uh Leonardo Tindle: I Pedro Kenney: No Leonardo Tindle: know Miguel Chang: to have Pedro Kenney: I John Lantz: it Pedro Kenney: think Miguel Chang: some Pedro Kenney: I John Lantz: will Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: think John Lantz: cost Pedro Kenney: it's Miguel Chang: d Pedro Kenney: better to have John Lantz: uh. Pedro Kenney: L_ L_C_D_ screen, because in the area of tw thirty six to forty five, we have about thirty percent of the market share in in our hands, and fifty five of those people want L_C_D_ screen and thirty five want speech recognition. So I think it's better to keep it with L_C_D_ screen. Leonardo Tindle: Mm. John Lantz: But would it be useful to imple implement both? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, John Lantz: On one remote? Pedro Kenney: if the Leonardo Tindle: Well Pedro Kenney: costs John Lantz: Or Pedro Kenney: al allow it. John Lantz: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: I John Lantz: I Leonardo Tindle: don't John Lantz: dunno. Leonardo Tindle: know if that can be done with the cost of twelve fifty. Pedro Kenney: Nee. Leonardo Tindle: With that uh Pedro Kenney: If it should be done, if it could be done, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Miguel Chang: We Pedro Kenney: I Miguel Chang: should Pedro Kenney: won't Miguel Chang: do Pedro Kenney: matter. Miguel Chang: it. Leonardo Tindle: but how Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: would Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: you Miguel Chang: Sure. Leonardo Tindle: like to implement that, that you say volume up, and then it goes Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: up, Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: or? Uh. Miguel Chang: Certain systems already exist, I think. Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. Leonardo Tindle: Then you also have to have different languages if we go international. Then uh Pedro Kenney: True. Leonardo Tindle: it's y Miguel Chang: True, Leonardo Tindle: it's Miguel Chang: yeah. Leonardo Tindle: yours to do Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: a Pedro Kenney: True. Leonardo Tindle: French and Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: Dutch and English and Pedro Kenney: But that should Miguel Chang: This should be Pedro Kenney: also Miguel Chang: uh accommodated Pedro Kenney: be with f Miguel Chang: with some software, Pedro Kenney: should be also with L_C_D_ Miguel Chang: uh, Pedro Kenney: screen. Miguel Chang: uh. Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Because then I think in Chinese Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: is Leonardo Tindle: that's Pedro Kenney: different Leonardo Tindle: right. Pedro Kenney: written, volume is different written than um Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Swahili Miguel Chang: Right. Pedro Kenney: or something. Miguel Chang: Swahili. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah you Miguel Chang: Swahili. Leonardo Tindle: can use icons for the Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Ja, well possible. Leonardo Tindle: a speaker and uh Miguel Chang: Indeed. Leonardo Tindle: But if that's better Pedro Kenney: Yeah, yeah Leonardo Tindle: than Pedro Kenney: yeah Leonardo Tindle: language Pedro Kenney: yeah. Leonardo Tindle: for Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: the for the remote. Miguel Chang: So we want to uh yeah it's international Leonardo Tindle: Then it's Miguel Chang: uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: okay. Okay. Pedro Kenney: 'Kay, what else? John Lantz: So, no speech recognition? Or Leonardo Tindle: Well, if it could be done, we Pedro Kenney: Yeah, we Miguel Chang: Y Pedro Kenney: have Miguel Chang: it Pedro Kenney: to Miguel Chang: should Pedro Kenney: keep Miguel Chang: be done. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: If it could be done, should be done. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: Yeah, and then we have different languages. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, that should be uh Miguel Chang: That's not so difficult Leonardo Tindle: anything matters. Miguel Chang: at all, John Lantz: Okay, Miguel Chang: because John Lantz: just make Miguel Chang: I John Lantz: a separate Miguel Chang: already John Lantz: remote Miguel Chang: use John Lantz: for Miguel Chang: on several John Lantz: each uh Miguel Chang: voice operated systems, and they are all possible to uh not all, but Leonardo Tindle: Well, you Pedro Kenney: I think Leonardo Tindle: sh Pedro Kenney: it's Leonardo Tindle: you Pedro Kenney: difficult. Leonardo Tindle: should to adjust the thing. Pedro Kenney: Every language of dialects Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: I think it's very differen difficult. Leonardo Tindle: And you have to speak the so that it Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: can understand. Pedro Kenney: I think it can't be implemented, but maybe Leonardo Tindle: You could use that n as an option, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: if you Pedro Kenney: 's Leonardo Tindle: have Pedro Kenney: an option, yes. Leonardo Tindle: money left, or something. Miguel Chang: Yeah, sure, indeed. Pedro Kenney: Fifty Euro cents. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Let's do speech. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: For speech recognition. John Lantz: Okay, so we only do this when we have enough money left. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: Okay. Well I've written down an an on or off button, volume selection, channel selection, uh the digits from one to zero, huh. Um or from zero to nine. Uh a digits button to switch uh between one and two digits, mute button, a separate menu for teletext, a battery indicator. Um we're going to use a docking station and uh probably L_C_D_ and if there's enough money, speech recognition. Leonardo Tindle: Mm. John Lantz: And uh the possibility to uh enlarge buttons or to have large buttons Pedro Kenney: Mm, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: yes. Leonardo Tindle: I John Lantz: in Leonardo Tindle: With John Lantz: general. Leonardo Tindle: uh teletext if it wasn't ver very important, Pedro Kenney: No, Leonardo Tindle: it was Pedro Kenney: but Leonardo Tindle: but You also now have colours. I don't know if we should implement that. Pedro Kenney: Curved? Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, when you press the red button, you go to page one hundred two, and when you press the Miguel Chang: Uh yeah. Leonardo Tindle: I don't know if we should Pedro Kenney: Um. Leonardo Tindle: implement that, because it says that teletext not really Miguel Chang: S Leonardo Tindle: important, Miguel Chang: Shortcuts. Leonardo Tindle: but Miguel Chang: Uh. Leonardo Tindle: yeah, the shortcut, Pedro Kenney: I Leonardo Tindle: and Pedro Kenney: think Leonardo Tindle: you can't Pedro Kenney: we should Leonardo Tindle: go Pedro Kenney: we Leonardo Tindle: to Pedro Kenney: could Leonardo Tindle: sport. Pedro Kenney: that we could also implement a audio settings, screen settings and channel settings, but as sub-menus. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: D Mainly if you turn the uh remote control on, you have to u you have to see from one till zero, channel and volume. And if you want to use teletext screen or audio, then you can Miguel Chang: Sh Pedro Kenney: press it. Miguel Chang: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: It Miguel Chang: just Pedro Kenney: should be Miguel Chang: just Pedro Kenney: available Miguel Chang: sub-menu. Pedro Kenney: but not Miguel Chang: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: 'Cause Miguel Chang: Not Leonardo Tindle: it should Miguel Chang: directly Pedro Kenney: not Leonardo Tindle: be there. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: uh available. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Okay. John Lantz: Okay, too much teletext support, but in a separate menu, and Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Mm. Leonardo Tindle: So actually it is there but it's Pedro Kenney: Yeah, but Leonardo Tindle: just Pedro Kenney: s Leonardo Tindle: not r ready Miguel Chang: Directly Leonardo Tindle: there. Miguel Chang: available. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: So does it confuse uh the Leonardo Tindle: You'll Miguel Chang: user? Leonardo Tindle: have to search Pedro Kenney: They'd Leonardo Tindle: for Pedro Kenney: have Leonardo Tindle: it. Pedro Kenney: to be easy Miguel Chang: Uh. Pedro Kenney: to use. Miguel Chang: I'll search um. If you want to use teletext, you can push the teletext Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: button and then the options uh become available. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, that's a Pedro Kenney: The sign of it. John Lantz: Okay, but no more buttons or functions, or? Pedro Kenney: Uh, Miguel Chang: No. Leonardo Tindle: I guess Pedro Kenney: no. Leonardo Tindle: not. Pedro Kenney: What else can you do with Leonardo Tindle: We've Pedro Kenney: a Leonardo Tindle: got Pedro Kenney: television? Leonardo Tindle: anon John Lantz: Aren't we forgetting something Leonardo Tindle: Have got got John Lantz: very Leonardo Tindle: two John Lantz: important? Leonardo Tindle: examples here, but I don't think there's anything Pedro Kenney: Uh Leonardo Tindle: we're missing. Pedro Kenney: play, pause, doesn't n need to be Leonardo Tindle: Well, we Pedro Kenney: there. Leonardo Tindle: don't have the video orders Pedro Kenney: Yes, so this is your presentation. We could check the other remote controls with Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, you Pedro Kenney: technical Leonardo Tindle: could look Pedro Kenney: functions. Leonardo Tindle: here all the the Pedro Kenney: Which ones were yours? Leonardo Tindle: Uh th th th th I don't know, technical Pedro Kenney: Techni Leonardo Tindle: functions. They're a bit small, you can we should stretch them, because John Lantz: Ping. Pedro Kenney: Ja ja ja ja ja. Technical functions. Yeah okay. Leonardo Tindle: I guess we've got them all. Pedro Kenney: Uh I think I go to have volume, mute but I Yeah. Very slow. Yeah, the zoom buttons. Leonardo Tindle: And for a T_V_? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, b wide Leonardo Tindle: Can you zoom Pedro Kenney: screen, Leonardo Tindle: in a T_V_? Pedro Kenney: high screen, different Leonardo Tindle: Or Pedro Kenney: things Leonardo Tindle: that Pedro Kenney: you Leonardo Tindle: you Pedro Kenney: have, Leonardo Tindle: can put 'em on uh on Pedro Kenney: yeah different Leonardo Tindle: on wide Pedro Kenney: uh Leonardo Tindle: and Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: yeah. But that should also be a sub then, a sub uh menu Miguel Chang: Menu. Pedro Kenney: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: thing. Pedro Kenney: it should be available, but then in separate screen settings or something. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Miguel Chang: Mm. Leonardo Tindle: so we should also implement se screen settings. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, screen settings, audio settings, Leonardo Tindle: Oh Pedro Kenney: teletext Leonardo Tindle: right. Pedro Kenney: settings you have. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Channel settings. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, so you can program Pedro Kenney: So those Leonardo Tindle: the Pedro Kenney: four, and of course the main. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, so the first you see the main, and the other ones you can Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: uh go Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: to uh Pedro Kenney: Like tap screens or something Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: or, I dunno. Leonardo Tindle: I Pedro Kenney: Something Leonardo Tindle: hope we can do this. Miguel Chang: There are a Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: lot of options Pedro Kenney: if Miguel Chang: depending Pedro Kenney: uh Miguel Chang: uh on what kind of television you got. 'Cause if you don't got a wide screen television you don't need the uh Pedro Kenney: No, you don't Miguel Chang: the screen Pedro Kenney: yu a Miguel Chang: settings Pedro Kenney: no you then Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: you Miguel Chang: for Pedro Kenney: don't no ni Miguel Chang: uh Pedro Kenney: don't then you don't use it. Miguel Chang: Yeah and if the television does not support such uh operations Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. Leonardo Tindle: We don't have to use that top. Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: So you leave it alone. Miguel Chang: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Or it could be possible to have a a standard version of the remote, Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: an expanded version. Leonardo Tindle: And do we want them in different colours, Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: or And Pedro Kenney: Colours. Leonardo Tindle: and the buttons, should they have Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: colours? Miguel Chang: Colours I think the main colour of the Leonardo Tindle: Oh but we Miguel Chang: remote Leonardo Tindle: don't have Miguel Chang: control Leonardo Tindle: any buttons. Miguel Chang: is uh the colour of the L_C_D_ screen. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: I John Lantz: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Because Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Miguel Chang: we don't Pedro Kenney: then Miguel Chang: want Pedro Kenney: defines Miguel Chang: a lot Pedro Kenney: itself. Miguel Chang: a devi yeah Pedro Kenney: Because Miguel Chang: a device Pedro Kenney: uh Miguel Chang: self s g Pedro Kenney: how many percent? Eighty percent? Leonardo Tindle: They think it's ugly, Pedro Kenney: Would spend Leonardo Tindle: right? Pedro Kenney: more money if it looks fancy. Miguel Chang: Okay, so use uh very uh lot of peo Leonardo Tindle: Perhaps you can uh make adjustable fronts, like with the telephones. Miguel Chang: Adjust with phones, yes Leonardo Tindle: You can uh But Miguel Chang: Okay. Leonardo Tindle: I Miguel Chang: Twelve Leonardo Tindle: don't Miguel Chang: Euro fifty. Leonardo Tindle: think that uh Miguel Chang: Well, make it available in different colours, you mean? Sure. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: Red, white, blue, black. Pedro Kenney: Rasta John Lantz: And a see-through Pedro Kenney: colours. Miguel Chang: Grey. John Lantz: uh Miguel Chang: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: sea view, Pedro Kenney: Yeah, see Miguel Chang: yes, Pedro Kenney: through version. Miguel Chang: Simpson's versions and Pedro Kenney: Yeah. If you press a button, it turns green. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: Okay, Miguel Chang: Leave. Leonardo Tindle: A John Lantz: well Leonardo Tindle: disco version. John Lantz: that's the Leonardo Tindle: Five minutes? John Lantz: signal for las final five minutes. Um so I have uh the things I just read. Um then we have uh separate menus for teletext, screen settings, audio settings, and Miguel Chang: Yeah. John Lantz: what else? Pedro Kenney: Channel settings? Leonardo Tindle: Oh yeah, right. John Lantz: Channel Leonardo Tindle: So you John Lantz: settings. Leonardo Tindle: can program the T_V_. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. John Lantz: Okay. Pedro Kenney: Mm. Leonardo Tindle: Perhaps you should you'd throw them on on in one pile. So, options, and then you sub them. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Leonardo Tindle: Otherwise Pedro Kenney: Could Leonardo Tindle: you Pedro Kenney: be possible. Leonardo Tindle: have all those teletext, perhaps teletext Miguel Chang: Mm. Leonardo Tindle: not, but Pedro Kenney: Or like uh you John Lantz: No, Pedro Kenney: have John Lantz: we Pedro Kenney: a menu John Lantz: said teletext Pedro Kenney: button, you John Lantz: also Pedro Kenney: press John Lantz: a separate menu. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, or Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: otherwise Leonardo Tindle: but I Pedro Kenney: you have a menu button, press menu then you have uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: main uh menu search uh all the all the settings. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: Okay, Leonardo Tindle: But John Lantz: but we can work that out Pedro Kenney: Yeah, John Lantz: later, Pedro Kenney: no problem. John Lantz: I guess. So Pedro Kenney: Yep. John Lantz: we're having a a general menu with the most used functions, uh teletext, screen settings, audio settings, channel settings, and maybe there are options for the remote itself? Like Leonardo Tindle: I don't John Lantz: uh Leonardo Tindle: know. John Lantz: large icons or small icons and Pedro Kenney: Um, John Lantz: I don't know what Miguel Chang: No. John Lantz: else, but Pedro Kenney: I think b because we don't have a lot of buttons on the one screen, I Leonardo Tindle: Or Pedro Kenney: think Leonardo Tindle: do we Pedro Kenney: the Leonardo Tindle: have Pedro Kenney: buttons Leonardo Tindle: any buttons? Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: On the Pedro Kenney: but Leonardo Tindle: remote. Pedro Kenney: but or Leonardo Tindle: Which Pedro Kenney: like Leonardo Tindle: one? Pedro Kenney: you have you only have channel button or volume button. Those buttons Leonardo Tindle: But Pedro Kenney: you John Lantz: Yeah, Pedro Kenney: can Leonardo Tindle: that's John Lantz: but Leonardo Tindle: also John Lantz: on Pedro Kenney: you John Lantz: the Pedro Kenney: can John Lantz: L_C_D_, Leonardo Tindle: in the L_C_D_, John Lantz: huh? Leonardo Tindle: right? Pedro Kenney: Yeah. John Lantz: Right, yeah, okay. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: So we don't Pedro Kenney: th Leonardo Tindle: have any normal buttons Pedro Kenney: No, no Leonardo Tindle: that Pedro Kenney: normal Leonardo Tindle: uh No, Pedro Kenney: buttons, Leonardo Tindle: alright. Pedro Kenney: yeah. Maybe only the on and o Leonardo Tindle: Yet Pedro Kenney: on Leonardo Tindle: on Pedro Kenney: and off Leonardo Tindle: and off Pedro Kenney: button. Leonardo Tindle: is John Lantz: But Leonardo Tindle: p is John Lantz: we don't Leonardo Tindle: perhaps Miguel Chang: Uh Pedro Kenney: But John Lantz: need Miguel Chang: not Pedro Kenney: I don't John Lantz: a special Miguel Chang: button Leonardo Tindle: you kno Pedro Kenney: think John Lantz: we don't need a special options menu for the remote itself. Pedro Kenney: Mm, Leonardo Tindle: No, Pedro Kenney: no. Leonardo Tindle: no. John Lantz: Okay. Leonardo Tindle: Oh well, you should be able to set which T_V_ you have. If you Miguel Chang: Yeah Leonardo Tindle: have Miguel Chang: sure, of Leonardo Tindle: if Miguel Chang: course Leonardo Tindle: you Miguel Chang: you need Leonardo Tindle: have uh Miguel Chang: uh a settings button, uh or a settings option for the remote control. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. But isn't idea to use uh uh what you said, uh normal on and off button for the T_V_, Pedro Kenney: No no Leonardo Tindle: that Pedro Kenney: no, Leonardo Tindle: you Pedro Kenney: because Leonardo Tindle: don't have Pedro Kenney: we Leonardo Tindle: to Pedro Kenney: we Leonardo Tindle: use a Pedro Kenney: discussed that you could charge it, otherwise is it it jumps to stand-by mode Leonardo Tindle: Yeah Pedro Kenney: automatically. Leonardo Tindle: but but not for the remote but for the T_V_, that Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: you Pedro Kenney: but Leonardo Tindle: use Pedro Kenney: a T_V_ of course, th that's the I think that's a best thing is that to implement that one in the menu with the volume and channel. Leonardo Tindle: But a not as normal button, Pedro Kenney: No. Leonardo Tindle: in the L_C_D_, yeah. John Lantz: Well maybe there should be a separate button apart from the L_C_D_, because you can't turn it on when the L_C_D_ is off. So how do you turn the thing on? There has to be a Leonardo Tindle: No you just John Lantz: on button Leonardo Tindle: tap John Lantz: on the remote, Leonardo Tindle: I Pedro Kenney: Yeah, Leonardo Tindle: think. Pedro Kenney: you Miguel Chang: Just Pedro Kenney: tap. Miguel Chang: tap John Lantz: huh? Miguel Chang: it. Pedro Kenney: Touch John Lantz: Tap Pedro Kenney: screen, John Lantz: the thing. Okay. Pedro Kenney: yeah then it's turn John Lantz: And then Pedro Kenney: turn off, John Lantz: the television Pedro Kenney: turn on. John Lantz: is on also, or just the remote? Pedro Kenney: No, just the remote. A television John Lantz: Sure. Leonardo Tindle: But Pedro Kenney: don't have to be on, that one you can Miguel Chang: Yeah, it Pedro Kenney: press Miguel Chang: should Pedro Kenney: on, Miguel Chang: be in standby mode, Pedro Kenney: yeah stand-by, Miguel Chang: but Pedro Kenney: then press on remote, press on and then T_V_ should be available. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah a yeah. Pedro Kenney: Or not. Leonardo Tindle: I don't know whether it's handy to have a n a normal on button, a r just uh Pedro Kenney: Separate. Leonardo Tindle: rubber uh for for T_V_, so you can turn it on and then you can choose the channel. Otherwise you I don't know whether or not that's Miguel Chang: A A A normal button Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Miguel Chang: on the remote control, Leonardo Tindle: yeah. Miguel Chang: or norm? Leonardo Tindle: To turn it on. Of or you should put it in the L_C_D_ screen. Miguel Chang: Yeah, because uh when you touch the L_C_D_ screen when it is in standby mode, it should pop on. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, I have, yeah. John Lantz: Okay, Miguel Chang: Wh uh why John Lantz: well Miguel Chang: would it be a a need to have a normal button? Leonardo Tindle: Well I I guess if you use the L_C_D_ screen, you first have to search where is the on button, then you uh you you then turn it, and then the T_V_ goes on. But if you have a normal on button on the on the remote, then you do the on, and then you search the channel which you want. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, but I think the re the remote control, if you press tap the screen, it always should jump to the screen which has the volume button, channel Miguel Chang: Mm. Pedro Kenney: button, and of course of also the on and off button. Leonardo Tindle: Oh right. Miguel Chang: I think it looks a lot more fancy if Leonardo Tindle: Yeah, Miguel Chang: you use Leonardo Tindle: I think Miguel Chang: uh Leonardo Tindle: so too. Miguel Chang: if Leonardo Tindle: Otherwise Miguel Chang: you don't have any Leonardo Tindle: y Miguel Chang: buttons Leonardo Tindle: wet e k Miguel Chang: on Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. Miguel Chang: the s on John Lantz: Yeah. Pedro Kenney: Yeah. Miguel Chang: on remote control. John Lantz: So actually we're going to create a a button-less uh Leonardo Tindle: Yeah. John Lantz: remote. No buttons at all. Okay, well that's might be a unique selling point, huh for Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. John Lantz: a remote. Leonardo Tindle: If we can afford John Lantz: Okay, well Leonardo Tindle: it. Pedro Kenney: Yeah, John Lantz: I Pedro Kenney: if we John Lantz: guess Pedro Kenney: can afford John Lantz: we have to Pedro Kenney: it. Yeah. John Lantz: postpone Miguel Chang: Oh, okay John Lantz: further discussion to uh our next meeting, because we're running out of time. Um for now, we're having a lunch break, Miguel Chang: Oh. John Lantz: and then there will be uh half an hour for the uh next share of individual work. I will uh write uh minutes, if I can create them out of this. And Miguel Chang: Mm. John Lantz: uh put them in the the project documents uh folder. And here are the individual actions for the for the other roles. And of course specific instructions will be sent to you again by your uh personal coach. Leonardo Tindle: Alright. John Lantz: Luckily as we are. Okay, well thank you very much, Pedro Kenney: Mm-hmm. John Lantz: for now, and uh Leonardo Tindle: Lunch. John Lantz: have a nice lunch, huh? Miguel Chang: Okay. Food. Leonardo Tindle: Should we put this back in our rooms, or uh? Miguel Chang: Yeah, think so. Leonardo Tindle: Yeah.	John Lantz opened the meeting and then Miguel Chang discussed the interior workings of a remote along with his personal preferences for the appearance of a remote. Leonardo Tindle discussed the technical functions of a remote and indicated that a user centered approach to designing the interface would be preferable. Pedro Kenney discussed the functional requirements of a remote and user tendencies in using remotes. Pedro Kenney indicated that an ideal remote would include an LCD screen, would not be too small in size, and is easy to use. John Lantz briefed the team on some new requirements and led them in a discussion in which the team discussed their target group and made decisions on the appearance and functions of their upcoming product.	3	amisum	train
Harold Zimmerman: Okay, welcome everyone to our next meeting. I'm writing and busy leading the meeting, but um I've prepared a little presentation once again um or at least an agenda I think uh the biggest part of the presentation will be uh on your side. Um we are here at the conceptual design meeting, which is hereby opened. Um once again I will try to uh write some minutes which I just from the previous meeting uh placed inside our project folder, which was quite some typing. Um we uh three presentations, if I'm right, and after that we will take a decision on the remote control concepts. And just as the last time we have forty minutes to accomplish that. Okay, well I'd say let's start with the Robert Crump: 'Kay. Harold Zimmerman: first presentation. Um in the same order as last John Metz: W sure. Harold Zimmerman: time? David Luna: Mm. Harold Zimmerman: Okay. David Luna: Alright. Harold Zimmerman: Well, take it away. John Metz: Okay uh welcome you. Components design, um uh first of all uh I would like to uh uh accommodate some of those uh things I uh uh elaborate some of the things I did. I I elaborated on the concept. What should be um uh said about uh the components, uh its properties and what kind of materials should we use to uh to make uh one of those r remote controls. Uh well of all I've uh d subtracted some of the components is that are used uh are w w from what remote control's formed. Uh first of all, the case, the case, the surrounding of the of the the remote control. I would like to uh give you an idea of uh how I thought about. Robert Crump: Don't destroy my giraffe. John Metz: Giraffe's gone now. Okay um the case was is made from rubber, I suppose. There's one of the because when you use a remote control a lot of people uh will uh will uh drop their remote control and they David Luna: Hmm. John Metz: break uh becau the uh titanium was also an option. But uh it's a very expensive material. Uh rubber is, I think, uh the best suitable uh material uh to use uh for our uh for our remote control. Um it's poss it's also possible to uh create fancy colours with rubber. Uh rubber l makes it easy to uh to to it lets lets itself colour. Uh titanium uh you have to paint it and with that uh it's possible to scratch it or uh yeah make it ugly. Uh rubber uh the total uh piece of rubber that's sor uh that's that's used uh to make the case is uh the same colour, so if you scratch it it's still the same colour, perhaps uh it's a little bit damaged. But it's a very strong material. Um I h I had an idea single covered uh curved, sorry, single curved. Uh so it's t two dimensional. I think it's uh it's best to draw oh green. David Luna: It's a colour. Robert Crump: Bright colour. John Metz: Uh Robert Crump: Fancy colour. John Metz: New. Robert Crump: Forward. John Metz: Blank. Okay. Robert Crump: You have to go t John Metz: Let's make it uh black. Okay. I thought of an idea like this. Oh that. Um delete. Blank. Okay. So it also looks nice when it's on your table. So you get uh it doesn't lay flat down on the table, but it's c it's stands. Robert Crump: Oh it's a side view. John Metz: Side view yes it's side view so uh I I'm not technically good at th three D_ modelling, but. Um uh it's just an idea I had so it's uh it's very uh so its also looks nice when it's on the table. Um the graphical user interface and the buttons, uh we also thought about that already. Uh I thought about uh the L_C_D_ touch screen, which is uh is easy to clean too. One of the great uh advantages of the L_C_D_ screen you just use some or uh another uh cleaning uh uh cl some cleaning stuff. And um it should be made of strong plastic and it should be bright. Well I already uh s uh explained some properties of that material and I think uh well we also we almost concluded about that uh this should uh be uh our uh Robert Crump: True. John Metz: button component. So uh uh that's all about uh the buttons. Uh the batteries, uh we also thought about that already, uh will be chargeable with uh uh an option for a mount station so you can uh put the uh the remote control in a mount station so its charges itself up instead of uh plugging it in or something like that. Questions, Robert Crump: No no no David Luna: No. Robert Crump: no John Metz: Okay. Robert Crump: no. Just looking. John Metz: And they should be long lasting, not uh not be empty uh in about uh two minutes or uh thirty minutes or forty minutes of use. And next step is the chip uh th the component that's uh makes or transmits the signal to the television. Uh there was an option to use s a rather simple chip but I think uh because uh of our uh highly uh requiring uh requirements, there should be an advanced chip in it with uh also the ability to uh facilitate speaker speech recognition uh which unfortunately is still in a test phase, so uh there should be some more uh investigation on that side. Uh my personal preferences uh I also overheard in the last meeting that there shou we should use uh our own business colours. That was correct, wasn't it? Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: Okay. I think they are rather boring for um for use with rubber. Harold Zimmerman: Well, business colours I thought it was the the slogan and uh the corporate image, so yeah, it John Metz: Okay Harold Zimmerman: needs colour, John Metz: they should be m sh they should be in mind, wasn't Harold Zimmerman: but I John Metz: it? Harold Zimmerman: don't think you have to make the entire thing in the corporate John Metz: Okay Harold Zimmerman: colour. John Metz: so it d it doesn't says uh to uh have the Harold Zimmerman: It John Metz: slogan? Harold Zimmerman: must be recognisable. John Metz: Okay okay. Well that's possible of course. We could make David Luna: You can put John Metz: a little David Luna: the John Metz: R_ David Luna: R_ and R_. John Metz: and R_ on the top of the machine. Uh so they are pretty boring, I suggest, because just the availability with rubber to make fantastic colours uh and also in a lot of possible colours, so it's possible to make very uh fancy uh remote controls which peopl uh who people in which people will find they're uh interesting. And uh will buy uh them faster when they look at the same old grey or black uh colours. Uh s as I said uh before rubber is uh is impossible to damage severely of course you can break it when you you when you break it in s for example with a pair of scissors or something like that, but i if you drop it it's not uh broken uh right away s instead of using uh plastic, hard plastic or uh titanium. And I personally liked uh the single curved uh remote control, because it yeah it makes sense. Okay. Well that's all about my uh my findings. David Luna: Alright. Harold Zimmerman: Okay, thank you. Robert Crump: Mm mm David Luna: I will Robert Crump: mm. David Luna: go next. Robert Crump: Next. David Luna: Alright so I thought a little bit about the interface. Uh how it should look. And uh uh we uh determined that will not be no buttons, but only an L_C_D_ screen, so I had to uh look on that. And the design is therefore we just uh uh thought of. Uh first there are some new findings and new technology for speech recognition. And this is that uh um uh uh you you ask you give a question through through the device and it answers you. And they already uh put this in an in a coffee maker. And so that it you say uh good morning, uh coffee maker, and it says t says to you back good morning John Metz: Mm. David Luna: Joe or what's your name. This uh and there's an easy way to uh program that uh you say record into the device into the speaker and then you say the question and three seconds later you say the answer and then when you say the question it gives you the answer. John Metz: Mm. David Luna: Um Harold Zimmerman: Mm. David Luna: perhaps it's useful, perhaps for because John Metz: Mm. David Luna: people um lose the remote, they can yell uh remote where are you and calls or something. Robert Crump: It's true. David Luna: And perhaps we could uh implement that. And then I have to go out of the presentation because John Metz: Oh David Luna: I John Metz: my God. David Luna: tried to make some kind of a a idea of how it should look like but I can't draw, so uh don't make too much of it. I tried to uh the L_C_D_ screen I tried to sort of to draw. I thought uh at least uh the icon for the volume. I don't know if there is an icon for the program, but John Metz: Not just a P_. David Luna: yeah. Robert Crump: P_ yeah, just a P_. David Luna: So John Metz: ... David Luna: uh and then the buttons above and uh below the and the and the mute button also recognisable as an icon. Um. Robert Crump: Where's where's the button for two? David Luna: I forgot that one. Robert Crump: Okay. David Luna: I thought I forgot something, but uh. And uh and uh the numbers, that should be a bit larger I think it's not really on scale and and John Metz: Ah. David Luna: so forth. Robert Crump: Doesn't matter. David Luna: Um an options button. And I thought the the button for teletext apar uh apart because it's not really options, I think. John Metz: Mm-hmm. David Luna: It's uh options Robert Crump: No. David Luna: is the settings of the remote and of the T_V_ and that kind of uh thing. John Metz: Yep. David Luna: So could call it settings or something. But this is a bit uh how I thought it. And uh the L_C_D_ uh somewhere on the remote. Perhaps we could be more curvy the remote perhaps should, so that it's better in your hand or something uh. John Metz: Oh okay, yeah. David Luna: But uh and and uh a microph microphone for the speech uh recognition if we want to implement that. Uh and then uh if you press the op options button, now we have an example of and then you should get the other options with what what you could do and that you could do with something like this this. John Metz: Oh yeah, David Luna: And uh it's also uh I thought think we discussed uh earlier that uh older people don't really want to use uh these extra settings. And older people a also don't really want to use this uh th this kind of option menus. So they want to u use one button and then something happens, and not choose with uh this kind of uh And you could put in a an a really s little scrolling device on the Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. David Luna: side of your uh remote, so you John Metz: Mm. David Luna: could scroll scroll uh across these uh things. John Metz: Okay. David Luna: That's an option. And that was my uh finding dinge. Harold Zimmerman: Thanks. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: Okay. Harold Zimmerman: Now our third John Metz: Go Danny, go Danny. Harold Zimmerman: team member with his presentation. Robert Crump: Okay, going to you about trend watching. The trends from the past years what the people like, what the youngsters, what the elderly people liked about shapes, material and stuff. 'Kay. The method I used was Like I told I watched the trends from the past years about colours, shapes, material they wanted uh from elderly and young people. So we can keep that in mind for designing f uh the device itself. Findings I made. The most important thing people liked last year was that the remote control should be look look fancy. The second important thing that w should be if inv in innov innovative, okay, like the L_C_D_ screen that's quite innovative so that should be great meeting for this. And the third thing is it should be easy to use. I think with only one menu, four button, channel, volume, it should also be enough for easy to use. The personal preferences for the young people, they liked fruity colours like uh John Metz: Fruity? Robert Crump: banana yellow, uh John Metz: Fruity. Robert Crump: strawberry red and stuff. David Luna: Grass green. Robert Crump: Yeah. Like that. The round shapes, and soft material m materials like the rubber. John Metz: Mm. Robert Crump: It should be John Metz: Okay. Robert Crump: soft uh i it should feeling spongy or s Sponge Bob like things. David Luna: Let's Robert Crump: Th David Luna: build it into a sponge. Robert Crump: Elderly people like au colours which y are being seen in autumn like um woods um dark brown, red, deep reds and stuff. They liked square shapes with round edges. And hard materials like wood, um titanium. They those kind of materials they liked. This is a bit like the young peoples like the fruity colours, innovative, all the colours you see, the blue, the red, the white, the yellow, that stuff. And then I th I I personally thought the front side of the shape should be something for the youngsters Harold Zimmerman: Oh y Robert Crump: like like this or something. It's it's a bit like a banana. And the colour should be yellow, or something. And for the elderly people just plain old. Because we decided to have two kind of remotes, two designs, or was it two David Luna: It Robert Crump: colours? David Luna: was one Robert Crump: Different David Luna: remote, Robert Crump: colours, yeah. David Luna: I think, different Robert Crump: We should David Luna: colours. Robert Crump: decide whether it's going to be with round shapes. I think like my colleague, you said, is that's e better, or for the elderly people something like like the iPod or something, with round squares. Simple but easy to use. John Metz: Mm. Robert Crump: So that's it. John Metz: Okay. Harold Zimmerman: So Robert Crump: That Harold Zimmerman: for Robert Crump: is Harold Zimmerman: the older Robert Crump: my Harold Zimmerman: people, a more traditional Robert Crump: Yeah, Harold Zimmerman: uh Robert Crump: like the Harold Zimmerman: form. Robert Crump: older o older colours I can maybe David Luna: You could you could uh change the colours, that was also the idea. I Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: don't know which shape you should should take, but. Robert Crump: Colours th the elderly Harold Zimmerman: Yeah, Robert Crump: people Harold Zimmerman: I guess changing colours will be easier than changing David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Changing Harold Zimmerman: uh John Metz: just the shape of the Harold Zimmerman: the shape John Metz: uh Harold Zimmerman: of it. John Metz: remote control? David Luna: Perhaps you could find something in the middle. John Metz: Yeah, David Luna: Round John Metz: s David Luna: but square. John Metz: round corners, but s but square, yeah. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: But maybe then both groups won't buy it. John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: Uh i i if you do it uh uh square, with round corners but a little uh in the middle of it uh i Do John Metz: Yeah David Luna: you John Metz: I know what David Luna: know John Metz: you David Luna: what John Metz: mean, David Luna: I mean? John Metz: kind of like a. David Luna: wait, like like this uh a bit. John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: So it's a bit square, but it's also a bit uh round. John Metz: Kinda like a beer glass. David Luna: So John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: but then John Metz: I know what you mean. David Luna: Same sides. John Metz: It's also easy David Luna: But that's John Metz: to David Luna: uh John Metz: to have to to put in your hand. David Luna: Yeah but that's also how other remotes are shaped, so that's uh John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: But perhaps that's a good thing, so that's easy to use. People know the John Metz: Will recognise that's as a remote David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: control. Robert Crump: Uh John Metz: Uh when I saw your d Oh. Robert Crump: Look something like that. Autumn colours like red, brown. They liked the wood John Metz: Huh. Robert Crump: a lot. Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. Robert Crump: So David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: maybe we could give it like wooden loo look look or something David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Yeah, kinda Robert Crump: in John Metz: like old Robert Crump: that John Metz: cars, Robert Crump: colour. And John Metz: uh Robert Crump: a bit bit David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: old school style renaissance, medieval kind of things. David Luna: Swords. John Metz: Let's Robert Crump: Those John Metz: put Robert Crump: kind John Metz: it all Robert Crump: of Yeah, John Metz: together. Robert Crump: those kind of things. So you see the big difference between the young people? Fresh, David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: exciting. And the old people, David Luna: But that's easily Robert Crump: old David Luna: to do Robert Crump: and David Luna: with Robert Crump: boring. David Luna: the colour, I think. Robert Crump: So Sorry? David Luna: That's easy to do with the colours, Robert Crump: Yeah David Luna: I Robert Crump: I think David Luna: think. Robert Crump: it's it's easier to do in colour than in shape. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Uh. Robert Crump: Because otherwise Harold Zimmerman: Yeah we Robert Crump: we have Harold Zimmerman: think so Robert Crump: to Harold Zimmerman: too. Robert Crump: get different shapes, and colour way easier than yeah the shapes. In material yeah rubber, rubber is, like I said, young people like more soft materials and spongy ones and the old people like plain wood. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: So we have to decide if we're going to use real hard rubber, or soft rubber. David Luna: Yeah Robert Crump: Or something something David Luna: think Robert Crump: between David Luna: uh Robert Crump: that. John Metz: Soft David Luna: Also John Metz: rubber. David Luna: in between. Robert Crump: Yeah soft rubber which you can you can feel John Metz: Yeah Robert Crump: in it. John Metz: I know what you Um. David Luna: I don't think you should Robert Crump: Or David Luna: be able to mould it, but Robert Crump: No. Or John Metz: It should Robert Crump: or wh what's John Metz: shouldn't Robert Crump: something John Metz: be. Robert Crump: harder. No no no but but you have to like like like a a eraser or something. That's the bit you David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: can press it in, or something harder. John Metz: Uh. David Luna: Bit like this kind of rubber. This uh Robert Crump: Yeah, something like this, yeah. David Luna: But it's quite hard, this. Robert Crump: Yeah it's quite hard but you can press it in. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: It's feels kind s spongy. John Metz: Spongy. Harold Zimmerman: Hmm. Robert Crump: Something. David Luna: I Robert Crump: No. David Luna: don't think it's rubber. Robert Crump: N n n Harold Zimmerman: So we need a spongy feeling. David Luna: Uh did you have something about uh Robert Crump: Are you going to invite John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: Sponge Bob, maybe he can David Luna: So John Metz: Ding David Luna: we John Metz: ding. David Luna: should first decide about shape, I think. Robert Crump: Yeah I David Luna: Which Robert Crump: think David Luna: uh Robert Crump: that's the better thing to do. David Luna: Then you can fit the L_C_D_ screen in it, and can decide uh. John Metz: Um I also s uh can't help but notice that you uh used an you had a remote control and the L_C_D_ screen was uh rather small. Robert Crump: Yeah w John Metz: Um. David Luna: Yeah Robert Crump: I think John Metz: ... Robert Crump: that David Luna: it's Robert Crump: L_C_D_ David Luna: supposed Robert Crump: screen David Luna: to be Robert Crump: should David Luna: bit Robert Crump: be David Luna: s bit s bit John Metz: This Robert Crump: like John Metz: was your size, David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: but I think it should be larger. Robert Crump: Yeah three quarter of the John Metz: Yeah, three Robert Crump: of John Metz: quarters. Robert Crump: the John Metz: So uh so you don't have to put your Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: oh. Robert Crump: the buttons won't get that small John Metz: Uh new, Robert Crump: when the L_C_D_ screen John Metz: blank. Robert Crump: is John Metz: So uh when you get this uh David Luna: Ooh John Metz: Uh kinda like this. Robert Crump: Mm-hmm. John Metz: Or David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: should it be larger? Robert Crump: Larger I think. John Metz: Larger? Because you want to put your hands David Luna: But if Robert Crump: Yeah David Luna: you pu Robert Crump: becau because David Luna: Now John Metz: You want Robert Crump: you have David Luna: you can put your hand there and then you won't touch the screen. John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: Perhaps Robert Crump: Yeah okay, David Luna: that's Robert Crump: true, David Luna: best. Robert Crump: true, true true. John Metz: Your thumb here. David Luna: But not on the screen because John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: Yeah that's uh Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: that's an idea. Looks a John Metz: Because David Luna: bit like John Metz: when you David Luna: a Game John Metz: put your David Luna: Boy John Metz: f David Luna: now. John Metz: Yeah but if yo if you make the the L_C_D_ screen as large as the remote control itself, uh you'll you'll always get some You David Luna: You always touch it, Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: yeah. Robert Crump: yeah John Metz: Going Robert Crump: yeah John Metz: to be Robert Crump: yeah. John Metz: very greasy and stuff. Robert Crump: But it won't get that small because you have how much? Nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen buttons on the screen. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: One to zero, John Metz: Yeah you don't want Robert Crump: the John Metz: it Robert Crump: two John Metz: too Robert Crump: digit, John Metz: small. How yeah how large Robert Crump: You have to you have to Because some fat people with d thick fingers John Metz: Yeah they have thick Robert Crump: will John Metz: fingers. Robert Crump: press three buttons at same time. John Metz: But if you wanna make it in international, Japanese uh people got uh rather small hands Robert Crump: Yeah true, but John Metz: and Robert Crump: Yeah, John Metz: we got Robert Crump: we John Metz: these Robert Crump: have John Metz: large Robert Crump: we have the zoom option, right? John Metz: Zoom opt Ah yeah of course, yeah. You can make it larger to to uh to uh with accompanying Robert Crump: Yeah. John Metz: uh greater fields to push the button. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: And we won't include a a pen, or something to point, Robert Crump: No. Harold Zimmerman: hey, we we want to do it with our fingers, Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: right? John Metz: Your fingers, yeah. Robert Crump: Yeah. John Metz: You don't Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. John Metz: want David Luna: Y John Metz: uh David Luna: you John Metz: Because David Luna: could John Metz: if Robert Crump: Use John Metz: you David Luna: include John Metz: lose Robert Crump: a pen John Metz: the Robert Crump: You John Metz: pen David Luna: a Robert Crump: you David Luna: pen. Robert Crump: c you John Metz: uh Robert Crump: can lose the pen. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah but I John Metz: if Harold Zimmerman: think John Metz: you lose the pen Harold Zimmerman: people want John Metz: uh Harold Zimmerman: to John Metz: you Harold Zimmerman: use John Metz: can't Harold Zimmerman: a remote John Metz: use Harold Zimmerman: with with their Robert Crump: Yeah Harold Zimmerman: fingers Robert Crump: the fingers, Harold Zimmerman: because David Luna: Yeah Harold Zimmerman: th David Luna: o Harold Zimmerman: they're used Robert Crump: yeah. David Luna: yeah, Harold Zimmerman: to that and David Luna: if they think it's handy to use a pen. Yeah I think this uh this is a good size for the screen. I don't know how how large the actual remote should be but a little bit Harold Zimmerman: And David Luna: like Harold Zimmerman: maybe we David Luna: this, Harold Zimmerman: have David Luna: or Harold Zimmerman: to David Luna: something. Harold Zimmerman: add a tissue to remove the grease from all the fingers, David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Yeah Harold Zimmerman: huh. Robert Crump: Yeah but that John Metz: You Robert Crump: that can John Metz: can Robert Crump: be John Metz: do Robert Crump: with John Metz: whatever Robert Crump: plain John Metz: uh any uh Robert Crump: soft tissue. John Metz: cloth. Robert Crump: Yeah, you Harold Zimmerman: Okay Robert Crump: can buy Harold Zimmerman: well Robert Crump: those Harold Zimmerman: maybe, Robert Crump: at Harold Zimmerman: if I can interrupt you, maybe I should uh should show some points on which we uh should take a decision. John Metz: Sure. Harold Zimmerman: So we can discuss these points. those points um energy question mark. How how should we uh supply the thing with energy and how are we going to do it with separate docking station and then put in it. Uh chip on print and case. Those are points my uh coach advised Robert Crump to discuss here, but I hope you have ideas about them. David Luna: I think energy were batteries and then uh and uh John Metz: The docking station. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. So that's the Robert Crump: Maybe Harold Zimmerman: the Robert Crump: it's Harold Zimmerman: the Robert Crump: better Harold Zimmerman: first Robert Crump: to Harold Zimmerman: point. We Robert Crump: to Harold Zimmerman: already Robert Crump: include Harold Zimmerman: decided that on John Metz: W Harold Zimmerman: the Robert Crump: rechargeable Harold Zimmerman: previous Robert Crump: batteries Harold Zimmerman: meeting. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: which you can recharge David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: through the docking station. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: So Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: if David Luna: Just Robert Crump: the badg David Luna: like Robert Crump: the David Luna: with Robert Crump: batteries David Luna: the Robert Crump: are David Luna: telephone. Robert Crump: dead John Metz: I kinda Robert Crump: then you can John Metz: like Robert Crump: re John Metz: your Robert Crump: you can uh change them. John Metz: Yeah you got some uh some of those uh uh wireless uh mice? Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: Mouse. Robert Crump: yeah John Metz: Computer Robert Crump: yeah John Metz: mouse. Robert Crump: like those. John Metz: Kinda like those kind of batteries. Robert Crump: Yep. David Luna: but it should be th I think normal batteries, not Robert Crump: Yeah, David Luna: not Robert Crump: normal David Luna: like two or Robert Crump: plain you David Luna: two uh Robert Crump: No normal plain batteries David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: you can buy at the supermarket John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: or retail Harold Zimmerman: Simple Robert Crump: shop. Harold Zimmerman: rechargeable Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: uh David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: batteries. David Luna: Um what was with the chip on print? John Metz: The chip on print? Um Uh you gotta f Yeah. I think so. Chip on print with a with a Robert Crump: Print John Metz: simple Robert Crump: plate. John Metz: uh a sim not a simple but a We also discussed that. Didn't we? Harold Zimmerman: Yeah but how did this how does that with a L_C_D_ screen? You still have a print plate. John Metz: Uh Robert Crump: Yeah yeah yeah. You always have a print plate. John Metz: Beg your pardon? Robert Crump: You always have a print plate, right? John Metz: Yeah sure, Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: of course, yeah. Robert Crump: Always, so I dunno what w what we have to decide about that. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah well it's a good question. It just was in there and I didn't John Metz: Well Harold Zimmerman: have John Metz: uh Harold Zimmerman: any John Metz: chip Harold Zimmerman: information John Metz: on print, Harold Zimmerman: about it, John Metz: I Harold Zimmerman: but John Metz: think what they mean uh with the regular rubber buttons that you got, uh it's always clear for the remote control when you press uh a certain button. Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: But when you got a L_C_D_ screen, Robert Crump: Yeah, okay. John Metz: with no uh with not the buttons Robert Crump: But John Metz: are not always on the same place, for example if you enlarge a button, or if you got several David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: options uh appearing on your screen, uh the co-ordinations aren't always the same. When you got a regular button, th the button of stand-by is always on the same Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: place Robert Crump: okay, but John Metz: and you got on the Robert Crump: the John Metz: and on the Robert Crump: p print plate of L_ L_C_D_ screen is more advanced than a normal John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: print plate, so that that's not of any discussion, I think. Harold Zimmerman: Well you need some kind of C_P_U_, I guess. John Metz: I suppose Robert Crump: Mm, John Metz: so. Robert Crump: I don't I dunno I don't think that's John Metz: It is a simple C_P_U_ but it doesn't Robert Crump: Yeah yeah okay but I d I I don't know if nor o s it's John Metz: Yeah Robert Crump: quite John Metz: because Robert Crump: a simple John Metz: it has Robert Crump: L_C_D_. John Metz: to uh b Robert Crump: Yeah, it's quite a simple L_C_D_ screen. I think they don't need that big John Metz: Yeah but Robert Crump: of C_P_U_. John Metz: it the the remote control has to know whether you're in a settings menu or just uh you just want to turn up the volume. Robert Crump: Yeah, okay, true true. True. John Metz: So it has to have some kind of a calculation unit or C_P_U_ to know uh in which state you are and uh which button you are pressing in at the right moment. Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. Because we're projecting projecting the buttons on the L_C_D_ John Metz: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: screen. John Metz: And a touch screen makes it uh possible to uh to get the co-ordination of your finger Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. John Metz: on the screen. And the case, yeah we already discussed David Luna: It's John Metz: the case, David Luna: rubber. John Metz: we wanted to make it from rubber David Luna: Yeah John Metz: and David Luna: but John Metz: uh David Luna: but a hard rubber like this? Or softer rubber or John Metz: Uh hard rubber I think. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: That's the easy to ha uh to to Robert Crump: Yeah. John Metz: uh David Luna: It bounces back from John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: the floor where you John Metz: Yeah Robert Crump: We David Luna: throw John Metz: sure, Robert Crump: have different David Luna: it. John Metz: look. Robert Crump: colours. David Luna: Yeah yeah this Robert Crump: So David Luna: in different Robert Crump: the shapes John Metz: D David Luna: colours? Robert Crump: is something between the square shapes with round colo corners and a round shapes? No I don't think, I think it's more round than square. David Luna: Yeah it's a bit. But I think Robert Crump: So it David Luna: it Robert Crump: meets David Luna: should be a bit longer, Robert Crump: I think David Luna: perhaps. Robert Crump: it meets more the young people than the older people. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. But David Luna: I Harold Zimmerman: that's David Luna: think Harold Zimmerman: what David Luna: so Harold Zimmerman: we want, David Luna: too. Robert Crump: Yeah, that's our target. John Metz: It's our main target. Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. Robert Crump: Lower than forty years, I think it John Metz: Well Robert Crump: was. John Metz: and how about my idea uh of making it um with one single curve? Robert Crump: Oh yeah that that John Metz: So i Robert Crump: I think I thought that David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: was a quite good John Metz: Because it's a gadget and you want Robert Crump: Yeah. John Metz: to show it off, of course. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah yeah you have David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: a fancy design, John Metz: Uh. Harold Zimmerman: then, right away. Robert Crump: You can Harold Zimmerman: So Robert Crump: put John Metz: Because Robert Crump: it John Metz: it Robert Crump: on your table with John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: the L_C_D_ screen, you don't have to put it get it in your hand, you can put it next to you and then John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: dive it in David Luna: Yeah, that's Robert Crump: and. David Luna: a good idea. John Metz: It's a lot easier. Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: Yeah, alright. Robert Crump: So John Metz: So, so Harold Zimmerman: Okay John Metz: you got uh Harold Zimmerman: so John Metz: Did David Luna: And then John Metz: you write that down? Uh got a single curved uh rubber f uh fancy coloured Robert Crump: You can't John Metz: remote Robert Crump: you John Metz: control. Robert Crump: You can't oh, you c you can draw it on your paper and then load John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: it on the David Luna: Yeah, you can uh Harold Zimmerman: Yeah David Luna: It's Harold Zimmerman: but David Luna: pretty Harold Zimmerman: I wrote it David Luna: easy Harold Zimmerman: down. David Luna: but Robert Crump: And load David Luna: And Robert Crump: it on the the user the server. Harold Zimmerman: What about the user interface, there are also some some questions uh about the concepts I think you have some ideas David Luna: Yeah, Harold Zimmerman: on that. David Luna: I had what Harold Zimmerman: You David Luna: I Harold Zimmerman: you showed your David Luna: just Harold Zimmerman: drawing. David Luna: uh I should again. I miss a few buttons, but. Well. At least uh what we should also have on, I just remembered, um a menu to go back through the first uh Robert Crump: Mm-hmm. David Luna: if if you touch options, Robert Crump: Yeah, David Luna: you Robert Crump: you David Luna: can't Robert Crump: have to go David Luna: go Robert Crump: back. David Luna: back to this Robert Crump: Yeah David Luna: uh Robert Crump: uh uh. David Luna: right away now. This Robert Crump: Isn't it better to have the sound and the general buttons horizontal? David Luna: I don't know. Robert Crump: With the minus and the plus. David Luna: I think Robert Crump: I David Luna: it's Robert Crump: think it's easier David Luna: I don't Robert Crump: than David Luna: know. I I thought it was uh easier to handle Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: this way, but I don't know what they think. John Metz: Sorry? David Luna: Would Harold Zimmerman: Mm. David Luna: you like the the buttons horizontal or v vertical? Robert Crump: For sound and John Metz: Depends David Luna: Th Robert Crump: channel. John Metz: on the screen. If you make the screen vertical it doesn't matter. If you make it uh in a rectangle David Luna: Right Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: well if we make it like this, John Metz: I so David Luna: I John Metz: it's David Luna: think John Metz: it's David Luna: if you John Metz: it's it's David Luna: put it like John Metz: Square. David Luna: this Robert Crump: I think it's it's easier to have it something like Oh a button uh minus here, plus over here. A minus here, plus over here. John Metz: Oh, okay. Robert Crump: And on here. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: The other buttons and on here the top. The options David Luna: Yeah. But I think Robert Crump: and David Luna: I Robert Crump: then David Luna: wou Robert Crump: you have something like uh the P_ over here, and the sound. David Luna: I think Robert Crump: Something David Luna: that's a Robert Crump: uh David Luna: matter of what you're used to. I think I would put a plus and a min uh here. And then the P_ in the mid in the middle and the sound uh in the middle. John Metz: Uh. Robert Crump: Something like Sh John Metz: Take your time. Robert Crump: Plus minus plus uh David Luna: Almost. Robert Crump: minus. David Luna: Yeah but I think when you are holding it, you could press the minus and the plus and with the other finger the minus and the plus. Robert Crump: Yeah I think you're going to s you're going to use it with one thumb. David Luna: Yeah but I think Yeah I don't know. Perhaps John Metz: W David Luna: I have some examples. John Metz: We'll leave David Luna: I don't John Metz: that David Luna: know John Metz: to the usability engineering then. Robert Crump: Who's the usability engineering? David Luna: That's Robert Crump. Robert Crump: She is. David Luna: But I'm going to look if I've got some examples 'cause perhaps you should choose what's most Robert Crump: Oh. David Luna: often used. The John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: Um David Luna: 'Cause they can use that better. John Metz: Consistency. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: Oh I have that David Luna: I Robert Crump: those s numbers. David Luna: Here is our here are uh Robert Crump: Or a good watch. David Luna: I don't really know. Robert Crump: B Harold Zimmerman: Everybody's searching in his data. Robert Crump: Channel David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: selection. Per hour one hundred and sixty eight. Volume selection four times David Luna: Yeah Robert Crump: an David Luna: but Robert Crump: hour David Luna: But I mean if it's usually plus or min above each other or next to each other John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: on a normal remote. Robert Crump: Uh John Metz: So not how much n not how often it's used, but David Luna: W what's Robert Crump: Yeah, David Luna: what's Robert Crump: that David Luna: usual Robert Crump: depends David Luna: or normal. Robert Crump: on on on David Luna: Yes Robert Crump: the David Luna: I'm Robert Crump: remote. David Luna: looking here. But here's it's John Metz: Uh. David Luna: below, here also, and now here's here's next to each other. I think it's it's a Robert Crump: I think because I have two televisions at home. One is horizontal, one is vertical, so it John Metz: Yeah it does David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: it Robert Crump: depends. John Metz: doesn't really matter, but Robert Crump: Yeah. Depends. John Metz: Uh. David Luna: I think the the the volume was usually uh above each other, because you go higher and Robert Crump: Yeah, David Luna: down. Robert Crump: lower. David Luna: And the the pay the the the program is next to each other, because you would go further and back. Robert Crump: True. David Luna: That's how it's is usually when I look here John Metz: Okay, David Luna: that's John Metz: um. David Luna: what I see. John Metz: Let's cut to the chase. Robert Crump: It's got to change. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah well I think we have we don't have to decide about that now how where we will put the buttons David Luna: I don't know. Robert Crump: Yeah is it Harold Zimmerman: just Robert Crump: is Harold Zimmerman: the Robert Crump: user interface. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: concepts. Robert Crump: Component. David Luna: This concept is in the actual design, but you should know where you would place John Metz: Okay, David Luna: a John Metz: well le Yeah. Interface, David Luna: And the speech John Metz: yeah. David Luna: uh shall we implement that? Or uh Harold Zimmerman: Yeah well we just heard about the new uh Robert Crump: Yeah Harold Zimmerman: technology, Robert Crump: I John Metz: Technologies, Robert Crump: think it's it's John Metz: uh. Harold Zimmerman: huh? Robert Crump: easy for that, where are you, but then it says I'm John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: here. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Makes it David Luna: But John Metz: possible David Luna: then you John Metz: to David Luna: should Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: also find a place You could if you do it like this you could put it in a corner or something. John Metz: Mm. David Luna: You can talk into the corner. Robert Crump: Yeah, a microphone, yeah. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Not even Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: necessary, because a lotta you can make a very sensitive microphone, so it makes it possible to uh just put it arou uh underneath it or on the on the bottom of the uh David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah John Metz: remote. Harold Zimmerman: maybe at the David Luna: But Harold Zimmerman: bottom where you can can hel hold it David Luna: Yeah, Harold Zimmerman: with David Luna: that's Harold Zimmerman: you hand John Metz: Yeah. David Luna: also. Harold Zimmerman: that there's also a microphone uh John Metz: Right. Harold Zimmerman: over there. David Luna: So, John Metz: But David Luna: in John Metz: that's David Luna: the John Metz: not David Luna: middle John Metz: import David Luna: or something. John Metz: I Harold Zimmerman: Yeah, John Metz: think Harold Zimmerman: yeah. John Metz: that's not im very important because yeah, it doesn't matter where the microphone is. David Luna: but you should uh decide where you want John Metz: Ah David Luna: to John Metz: okay, David Luna: put it. John Metz: sure, okay, David Luna: Right? John Metz: well tha Robert Crump: Um I John Metz: Underneath? Robert Crump: think where it isn't seen the most. John Metz: Indeed. It shouldn't be uh Robert Crump: Inside. David Luna: You John Metz: very David Luna: could p you John Metz: uh David Luna: could John Metz: visible. David Luna: put it in a logo of the company. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. John Metz: Yeah sure, Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Well John Metz: why Harold Zimmerman: maybe John Metz: no Harold Zimmerman: just Robert Crump: I i Harold Zimmerman: in the Robert Crump: between Harold Zimmerman: the spot Robert Crump: the Harold Zimmerman: you just Robert Crump: round of the R_. Harold Zimmerman: pointed out David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: because I think it should be in a in an important position where people can see it, because it is the the unique uh idea of our remote, huh, the the speech David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: control. Robert Crump: Yeah, David Luna: So where Robert Crump: okay. David Luna: do you want to put it? Harold Zimmerman: Well maybe John Metz: Yeah but it doesn't makes Harold Zimmerman: where John Metz: it uh Harold Zimmerman: the one hand John Metz: any more fancy because you get to see uh David Luna: Yeah actually it does Robert Crump: Yeah. David Luna: because it you can you can find it better if you use it. Robert Crump: Yeah bu but David Luna: It's a way for you to uh John Metz: Uh. David Luna: So it makes more sense just 'cause other remotes don't have that. John Metz: Yeah, okay. Harold Zimmerman: But are we talking about the button, or about the microphone? David Luna: About a microphone, Harold Zimmerman: Yeah David Luna: there Harold Zimmerman: because David Luna: is no button. Harold Zimmerman: a microphone is very small thing, but you can make it look like it's big David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: so as its its really an important function of the remote. Robert Crump: I think the left s under corner should be the best. Where isn't i it isn't most in sight. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: Okay. Robert Crump: I think. John Metz: Well put it there. I don't mind. That doesn't doesn't really matter. Robert Crump: No. Actually doesn't. John Metz: Okay. David Luna: Alright. John Metz: So? David Luna: Any more uh Harold Zimmerman: So well uh type, supplements, John Metz: Interface type. Harold Zimmerman: anything. Yeah, well we already s discussed John Metz: The L_C_D_ Harold Zimmerman: that, huh, the the John Metz: yeah, Harold Zimmerman: L_C_D_ John Metz: uh Harold Zimmerman: and John Metz: supplements David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: well Robert Crump: I John Metz: the Robert Crump: think John Metz: supplement Robert Crump: I John Metz: is Robert Crump: thought John Metz: to yeah. Robert Crump: the, like you said, like scroll next to the remote David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: isn't that handy. I think it's better to just up what you'd like to do on the screen. If you want to go back you have to back button go back, David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: if you want to choose audio settings you press audio settings and it goes to that s sub-menu. John Metz: Hey, David Luna: Um yeah. Yeah the the young people do like John Metz: Use David Luna: uh scroll John Metz: the scroll. Robert Crump: Yeah? David Luna: uh John Metz: Yeah Robert Crump: You do David Luna: yeah. Robert Crump: like John Metz: I think Robert Crump: it? John Metz: so too. So why not, on on side. David Luna: Or at least Yeah I don't know if it's really the scroll, but the menu they like most, and I think you can never get through a menu John Metz: Fast, David Luna: great with a John Metz: yeah. David Luna: scroll uh Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: So Robert Crump: I think John Metz: if you've Robert Crump: it John Metz: got a Robert Crump: is John Metz: settings, Robert Crump: is faster. John Metz: if you Robert Crump: Becau I think the scroll's easier if you have a lot of options, John Metz: Yes. Robert Crump: but if you don't have a lot David Luna: But you Robert Crump: of David Luna: have Robert Crump: option David Luna: it's Robert Crump: then John Metz: You David Luna: f uh John Metz: have a lot of options, David Luna: we have John Metz: because when David Luna: five John Metz: you use David Luna: or John Metz: Yeah David Luna: four John Metz: you get David Luna: or John Metz: w David Luna: something. John Metz: when you Robert Crump: Y John Metz: use uh the settings menu for example to look up some uh uh some channels on your uh on your television, Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: you should scroll scroll down uh on a menu Robert Crump: Uh-huh. John Metz: which probably does not fit on your screen. Robert Crump: Yeah, okay, David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: true. John Metz: So then it's uh very handy to to scroll down, Robert Crump: Okay. John Metz: you make just a rubber just like uh on your mouse or. Just put it on the side and it's very easy to use. Robert Crump: Okay, no problem. Harold Zimmerman: And I think I would it would make even more fancy because you have another interesting thing John Metz: Yeah, Harold Zimmerman: on the side which John Metz: yeah. Harold Zimmerman: you David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: can touch and David Luna: It's also different. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: Okay. Harold Zimmerman: Okay. Well there's our five minutes uh warning. Um any more uh questions about about the design or the user Robert Crump: Um. Harold Zimmerman: interface or different components, everyone? Robert Crump: No, colours are clear, shape is Harold Zimmerman: Everybody Robert Crump: clear, Harold Zimmerman: think they can Robert Crump: material Harold Zimmerman: can Robert Crump: is clear. John Metz: Okay, what's the standard colour? Harold Zimmerman: work for that? Robert Crump: And a standard, yeah Harold Zimmerman: Is Robert Crump: we Harold Zimmerman: there Robert Crump: don't Harold Zimmerman: a standard colour? Robert Crump: no we John Metz: I Robert Crump: have John Metz: I Robert Crump: different colour. How many colours John Metz: You got Robert Crump: are John Metz: you Robert Crump: we John Metz: got Robert Crump: going David Luna: You John Metz: different David Luna: should Robert Crump: to John Metz: colours, David Luna: you should have John Metz: but David Luna: a John Metz: you David Luna: black John Metz: should David Luna: one John Metz: have a standard David Luna: because uh John Metz: colour. David Luna: I think black Robert Crump: Black. David Luna: is standard. Robert Crump: Yeah, black I John Metz: Black? Robert Crump: think is is the standard. John Metz: With the with the yellow David Luna: But if you John Metz: uh David Luna: want to be different, Robert Crump: Dark grey, something David Luna: then uh Robert Crump: like this this colour or something. John Metz: Just a regular uh Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: remote Robert Crump: like like John Metz: colour. Robert Crump: yeah. John Metz: And then have Robert Crump: Or John Metz: uh Robert Crump: or silver. John Metz: different covers uh to Robert Crump: I John Metz: use. Robert Crump: think it's better to have silver nowadays. John Metz: Silver, David Luna: Silver. John Metz: yeah. Robert Crump: I think Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. Robert Crump: you see more silver John Metz: You see a lot Robert Crump: than John Metz: of Robert Crump: black. John Metz: t uh Harold Zimmerman: But John Metz: silver Harold Zimmerman: still silver John Metz: televisions. Harold Zimmerman: and black David Luna: Silver Harold Zimmerman: are Robert Crump: Yeah David Luna: rubber. Harold Zimmerman: well Robert Crump: the the Harold Zimmerman: silver Robert Crump: silver black Harold Zimmerman: is Robert Crump: are Harold Zimmerman: new Robert Crump: our main Harold Zimmerman: but also Robert Crump: colours. Harold Zimmerman: traditional, so Robert Crump: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: uh Robert Crump: I think we have silver, black and between those is like I dunno s five colours between them or something. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah w what about a yellow thing, I mean it John Metz: Yeah y I Robert Crump: Yeah John Metz: think Robert Crump: yeah yeah John Metz: it's Robert Crump: it'll be John Metz: better Robert Crump: a banana John Metz: to Robert Crump: yellow, we have. Harold Zimmerman: could be ugly, but it's definitely fancy. Robert Crump: R red. John Metz: Yeah th yeah. David Luna: But John Metz: That's right. David Luna: yeah. Robert Crump: Green, John Metz: But if you use Robert Crump: wood, John Metz: uh Robert Crump: brown. John Metz: silver, Robert Crump: Yeah. John Metz: uh rubber s silver rubber isn't fancy. Robert Crump: True. John Metz: When you use titanium, silver is fancy, but when David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: you use silver rubber, it isn't fancy. Silver has to shine, and rubber doesn't shine. Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. John Metz: Especially when it's made of soft rubber like this. David Luna: Yeah. John Metz: You understand? Robert Crump: Yeah, I understand. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah I would think about colours like uh red, yellow, Robert Crump: Yeah Harold Zimmerman: green, John Metz: Yeah. Robert Crump: o Harold Zimmerman: blue, Robert Crump: of course. Harold Zimmerman: just Robert Crump: The fruity colours John Metz: Fruity. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. David Luna: Just all kind Robert Crump: and David Luna: of colour. Robert Crump: the John Metz: Fruity Robert Crump: autumn colours, John Metz: loops. Robert Crump: like red and brown, dark red Harold Zimmerman: Mm-hmm. Robert Crump: and brown. Harold Zimmerman: Maroon. David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: Yeah. John Metz: Okay. Harold Zimmerman: Okay, so David Luna: And and do we have to have a normal black one, or uh Harold Zimmerman: Who's David Luna: Is it Harold Zimmerman: pinging? Robert Crump: No. Harold Zimmerman: You are pingin Okay. John Metz: You ping. Harold Zimmerman: Okay, so uh that wraps it up? Everybody David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: knows uh what to do? Well John Metz: Well Harold Zimmerman: I John Metz: not Harold Zimmerman: wrote David Luna: Well John Metz: what David Luna: I Harold Zimmerman: it David Luna: don't John Metz: to Harold Zimmerman: down John Metz: do. David Luna: know Harold Zimmerman: here. David Luna: what to do, Harold Zimmerman: I David Luna: but. Harold Zimmerman: wrote John Metz: Not what Harold Zimmerman: it down here John Metz: to Harold Zimmerman: what to do um. John Metz: do. Look. Harold Zimmerman: The next meeting is once again in thirty minutes. John Metz: Okay. Harold Zimmerman: Um here are the individual actions, and especially notice that uh the Industrial David Luna: Ooh. Harold Zimmerman: Designer and David Luna are going to work together David Luna: Right. Harold Zimmerman: on a prototype drawing on Robert Crump: S Harold Zimmerman: a smart board, David Luna: Yeah. Harold Zimmerman: and of course Robert Crump: tough. Harold Zimmerman: to all four of us uh specific instructions Robert Crump: We'll be Harold Zimmerman: will Robert Crump: available. Harold Zimmerman: be emailed by David Luna: But Harold Zimmerman: our David Luna: do Harold Zimmerman: personal David Luna: we have Harold Zimmerman: coach. David Luna: to We'll work together, but do we have to stay here, or do we Harold Zimmerman: Well I I'd say just wait uh for David Luna: Right. Harold Zimmerman: email and uh find out. David Luna: Yes. Harold Zimmerman: I don't know. David Luna: Okay. John Metz: Thin I think we should work. Harold Zimmerman: Okay well that was what I had to say, David Luna: Yeah I Harold Zimmerman: uh, David Luna: think. Harold Zimmerman: final thoughts from anyone, or? David Luna: No. Robert Crump: No. Harold Zimmerman: We're finished. Okay, well thank you very much. David Luna: Yeah. Robert Crump: Finished. John Metz: Thank you very much. David Luna: So we have to keep talking English now?	After Harold Zimmerman opened the meeting, John Metz discussed his preference for making a remote which is single-curved, made of rubber, contains an LCD, has a docking station to recharge the batteries, and uses a simple chip. David Luna discussed how speech recognition could be useful to users who often lose their remotes, the layout of the interface, and the option to include a scroll device on the side of the remote to access a menu containing extra features. Robert Crump discussed the results of trend-watching reports and his preference for a banana-like remote for younger people and a traditional remote for older people. The trend-watching reports indicated that products should be fancy, innovative, easy to use, in fruity colors, in soft and spongy materials, and in hard materials in autumn colors with square shapes with round edges if appealing to elderly people. The team discussed case shapes, color options, types of rubber, and dimensions. The team then made decisions regarding energy sources, components, and the remote interface.	3	amisum	train
Jeremy Coren: Good. Anthony Rodriguez: Beep. Oh. Micheal Obeso: What? Jeremy Coren: So uh welcome everyone. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Um as you may have noticed I uh created separate folders because it was uh Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: tending to get a little busy in our uh shared project documents uh folder. I don't know if everybody uh put their own uh documents in the right folder, which is for now the detailed design meeting. Frank Davis: That's new one? Micheal Obeso: We Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: didn't make any uh Anthony Rodriguez: Uh, we should save that Micheal Obeso: Oh in Jeremy Coren: Then I'll move Anthony Rodriguez: one. Jeremy Coren: this Micheal Obeso: Didn't Jeremy Coren: one. Micheal Obeso: we just do that? Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, save in the folder. Micheal Obeso: Oh. Anthony Rodriguez: Save as project. Jeremy Coren: Oh no, this is just one big document, so you can leave that wherever it is. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh, okay. Hmm hmm. Jeremy Coren: And evaluation left. Okay. Anthony Rodriguez: Agenda. Jeremy Coren: Well not main documents this time. Micheal Obeso: Hmm? Jeremy Coren: Oh uh yes. I have it open myself I guess. Um well the detailed design meeting Huh? We're finally getting somewhere hopefully. Um what are we going to do? I've opened it already. Um I'm still going to take some minutes, Anthony Rodriguez: Oh, sorry. Jeremy Coren: and if I'm right, you two are going to give a prototype presentation? Micheal Obeso: We could. Jeremy Coren: Aren't you? Yes, you are. And uh m did you do something with evaluation criteria? Frank Davis: Yep. Yep. Jeremy Coren: Good. And we have a correct agenda. And uh then we have to look at something which is less nice, the finance uh aspect, whether we can afford what we have designed, and Micheal Obeso: Oops. Jeremy Coren: if we can we can uh commence the final part which is the production or project evaluation, how did we work together and what are the results, and how happy are we with those. Okay, well finance uh will be later. Now I'd like to give the word to you two. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Get up stand up. Micheal Obeso: Well Anthony Rodriguez: just Micheal Obeso: uh we Anthony Rodriguez: 'Kay. Micheal Obeso: made a prototype. We first start with the overall uh This Anthony Rodriguez: View. Micheal Obeso: is about the total remote control. We made it Anthony Rodriguez: Just example colour, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: uh there's one the colours we would to uh see Micheal Obeso: It's a fresh Anthony Rodriguez: our. Micheal Obeso: colour. And uh the screen light blue. Oh uh this the scroll button and the microphone on the on the sides here under. And the R_ and R_ logo, it just says R_ and R_ now, but uh Anthony Rodriguez: Okay? Micheal Obeso: Any questions so far? Frank Davis: Big microphone. Anthony Rodriguez: yeah, just Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: uh just an idea about Frank Davis: Oh okay. Anthony Rodriguez: how to m th that could also be Frank Davis: That's Anthony Rodriguez: possible. Frank Davis: the place where it's going to be, not Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Frank Davis: the size. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: well, it's an idea in a Micheal Obeso: Oh y Anthony Rodriguez: so. Micheal Obeso: you perhaps you should make it a bit big, so people know it's there and uh Anthony Rodriguez: Do not forget it. Micheal Obeso: Uh Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Anthony Rodriguez: To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uh big of course. Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: Hmm. Frank Davis: okay. Anthony Rodriguez: The microphone Frank Davis: Of course. Anthony Rodriguez: could be just a minor uh hole Frank Davis: Mm. Anthony Rodriguez: uh Frank Davis: Mm, Anthony Rodriguez: on the left Frank Davis: th yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: uh button. Frank Davis: Small. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay um we also made some uh ideas about how uh the options menu would work. Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uh um Micheal Obeso: You push the scroll button Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, you push the scroll button Micheal Obeso: and it's claps out if there's Anthony Rodriguez: and a drop Micheal Obeso: a Anthony Rodriguez: down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uh becoming available. For example uh T_V_ settings, uh Micheal Obeso: Remote settings, Anthony Rodriguez: remote Micheal Obeso: et cetera. Anthony Rodriguez: settings, et cetera. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: So uh you can scroll down too with the scroll uh button, uh as you can see oh, it's here, just push it in, uh the menu comes out like this and uh i it all becomes visible. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Um Micheal Obeso: And you could also touch it so that it comes Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: out, and Anthony Rodriguez: that's c Micheal Obeso: and use Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: the the the scroll thing as a with your fingers. Anthony Rodriguez: Indeed. Micheal Obeso: Yes. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, um it's also uh nice to see that um we made a small uh menu, uh the options menu uh becoming available when pressing the uh scroll uh button, and the opportunity to use the teletext, whi which is used uh which should still be used and we think that it's uh very handy to put it uh not uh under the options menu, but in uh Yes. In an apart uh Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: So a separate button Anthony Rodriguez: In a separate Jeremy Coren: for Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: button, Jeremy Coren: for text, Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Jeremy Coren: okay. Micheal Obeso: Perhaps we should use the teletext sign in p Anthony Rodriguez: A sign, Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: yeah, just like Okay, indeed. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, we can Micheal Obeso: Forgot. Anthony Rodriguez: uh modify that later. Okay. Would you like to make any comments about next Micheal Obeso: Uh Anthony Rodriguez: uh Micheal Obeso: well, this is the total interface uh that f of the L_C_D_ screen. Uh the numbers, which is pretty straight forward. We put ano an an extra button in. We can erase it, but It's the button where you can switch channels. just when you are one and you go to two, you can or if you go to five, you can go back to one with that button. Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: Previous page, Micheal Obeso: that Anthony Rodriguez: yeah, Micheal Obeso: one, yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: indeed. Micheal Obeso: It has a name. And uh Anthony Rodriguez: Oh my God. Micheal Obeso: uh we put that in, I thought it would be handy there. Uh this the one number or two numbers button. Below that, the page and the sound. And uh in the middle the the mute. Uh battery indicator. It's Anthony Rodriguez: It's Micheal Obeso: it's Anthony Rodriguez: quite Micheal Obeso: a bit Anthony Rodriguez: large. Micheal Obeso: big. And this is the uh the on off uh knop, the stand by uh knop. Or at least it should look like it. And the options uh Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: of teletext. Anthony Rodriguez: You can see very clearly now that the uh teletext and options menu isn't uh taking uh much uh uh it's taking much part of the screen, so it's very uh when you uh when you use it, doesn't uh become irritating to see. 'Cause Micheal Obeso: Huh. Anthony Rodriguez: if you put it on the top you always get see the the options menu. 'Cause people regularly uh read from left top to right down, so Jeremy Coren: Mm-hmm. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Well this about it, I think. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Huh. Jeremy Coren: Thank you. Micheal Obeso: I will put Jeremy Coren: Looks Micheal Obeso: it Jeremy Coren: good. Micheal Obeso: back on the on Jeremy Coren: And Micheal Obeso: the Jeremy Coren: I Micheal Obeso: nice Jeremy Coren: just missed Micheal Obeso: green. Jeremy Coren: when I was typing The R_R_ stands for? Micheal Obeso: That's the logo of the Jeremy Coren: Logo, okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. It's th th Jeremy Coren: Okay well Micheal Obeso: right now it's only R_ R_, but uh Anthony Rodriguez: Full screen. Jeremy Coren: I would have recognised Frank Davis: Shit. Jeremy Coren: it if it were the right colours of course. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Alright. Micheal Obeso: Sorry. Frank Davis: 'Kay. Jeremy Coren: Okay, the Micheal Obeso: Oh full screen, Jeremy Coren: evaluation Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Huh. Jeremy Coren: criteria, huh? Frank Davis: Evaluation. 'Kay, my task was this time to put up a questionnaire by we can evaluate of the remote control by the questions we requirements from the of the users My name, my job, okay. Anthony Rodriguez: My name, Frank Davis: The methods. Anthony Rodriguez: my job. Frank Davis: Questionnaire with seven point scale from one to seven, from true to false, like Micheal Obeso: Right. Frank Davis: question, is remote big enough, we can say it's true or it's false by steps. One means absolutely not true, seven means true. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: The three important things of refa Anthony Rodriguez: Sorry, you used the PowerPoint Frank Davis: are uh from th of this year is are, is the remote control fancy enough, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: is it in innovative enough, and is it easy enough to use. And then evaluation itself. Uh. Anthony Rodriguez: What? Frank Davis: So. Anthony Rodriguez: Bling. Frank Davis: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: First question. Is the design fancy enough? Micheal Obeso: Well Frank Davis: Project Manager, what do you think? Jeremy Coren: Well it's looks fancy, especially with the Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: green colour. Frank Davis: But does it Jeremy Coren: And the the curves which we decided, huh? Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Only what happened to the single curve we spoke Anthony Rodriguez: Now uh Jeremy Coren: about Micheal Obeso: It uh Anthony Rodriguez: the single Micheal Obeso: oh Jeremy Coren: last Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: meeting? Anthony Rodriguez: curved Micheal Obeso: in the background. Anthony Rodriguez: idea was Micheal Obeso: Oh. Anthony Rodriguez: uh Yeah, okay, you ge um Micheal Obeso: Y you should make uh a sideways Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: uh view. Anthony Rodriguez: The sideways view, uh that that that Micheal Obeso: It Anthony Rodriguez: ma Micheal Obeso: will be, I guess. Oh, Anthony Rodriguez: Ho not Micheal Obeso: we Anthony Rodriguez: that Micheal Obeso: can Anthony Rodriguez: pen. Not that Micheal Obeso: Oh Anthony Rodriguez: pen. Micheal Obeso: g I would Jeremy Coren: Well it might Micheal Obeso: smart Jeremy Coren: work one Micheal Obeso: board. Jeremy Coren: time, huh. Micheal Obeso: Uh can I draw here or uh Anthony Rodriguez: Suppose so. Frank Davis: Think. Micheal Obeso: Ooh. Anthony Rodriguez: Ah. Frank Davis: Yeah, yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: Oh Frank Davis: you can. Anthony Rodriguez: my Micheal Obeso: So Anthony Rodriguez: God, it Micheal Obeso: it Anthony Rodriguez: works. Micheal Obeso: would be uh something like this from the side, but with a bit of uh curve here, right? Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, that's the single curve indeed. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. So if you v flip it like this. Anthony Rodriguez: Yep. Jeremy Coren: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Here's Anthony Rodriguez: That's Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: not very i it's also uh very handy if you make a side curve way to make the the remote control very thin at the bottom uh at a bottom at a bottom. Uh make it uh rather thick on the top, because uh on the top it has uh the screen, which takes uh in some uh space, and the batteries can be located over there, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: so Micheal Obeso: So Anthony Rodriguez: uh Micheal Obeso: you just make the back of this part a bit bigger, so that Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: it lays Frank Davis: Isn't Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: going Micheal Obeso: bit Frank Davis: to Micheal Obeso: o Frank Davis: be a little bit heavy at the top? Anthony Rodriguez: No. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, that's a bit of problem maybe. Frank Davis: With two batteries, the whole print plate and t and Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: top, and if you're holding it Micheal Obeso: I think yeah, the Frank Davis: quite Micheal Obeso: battery Frank Davis: a Micheal Obeso: should Frank Davis: lot Micheal Obeso: be in here, Frank Davis: I think Micheal Obeso: because it's Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: just nothing, Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: so if you could Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, indeed. Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. 'Cause Jeremy Coren: Okay, Micheal Obeso: otherwise Jeremy Coren: but we Micheal Obeso: I Jeremy Coren: have Micheal Obeso: think Jeremy Coren: to Micheal Obeso: i Jeremy Coren: rate uh Frank Davis: Yeah, we have to rate. Jeremy Coren: these things Frank Davis: Is Jeremy Coren: now? Frank Davis: it Jeremy Coren: Okay. Frank Davis: fancy enough? True is one, false is seven. So fancy enough means, does it comes to the younger people and the elder people. Micheal Obeso: I think it Anthony Rodriguez: I think Micheal Obeso: does. Anthony Rodriguez: so. Frank Davis: I think Micheal Obeso: I Anthony Rodriguez: It's pretty Micheal Obeso: if you Anthony Rodriguez: fancy. Micheal Obeso: don't make it green, then the elder people won't won't Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: like Frank Davis: I have Micheal Obeso: it. Frank Davis: to agree, all the colour colours don don Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: you Frank Davis: doesn't Anthony Rodriguez: get Frank Davis: matter Anthony Rodriguez: th Frank Davis: that m that much now, it's Jeremy Coren: Mm-hmm. Frank Davis: only design. Micheal Obeso: I think it does. Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: And the design. Jeremy Coren: Well I think Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: uh especially because of the microphone and the L_C_D_ screen Micheal Obeso: Yeah. I don't know Jeremy Coren: also. Micheal Obeso: whether older people will use Jeremy Coren: Very Micheal Obeso: it, Jeremy Coren: new Micheal Obeso: but Jeremy Coren: thing. Well Frank Davis: So Jeremy Coren: Fancy Micheal Obeso: I Jeremy Coren: the Micheal Obeso: would Jeremy Coren: old Micheal Obeso: make it Jeremy Coren: people Micheal Obeso: a two Jeremy Coren: will. Micheal Obeso: or something. Frank Davis: A two? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Huh? Anthony Rodriguez: It's true, it's a one. Micheal Obeso: Alright, it's a one. Anthony Rodriguez: Very Micheal Obeso: Oh Anthony Rodriguez: fancy. Jeremy Coren: No, it's a two. Micheal Obeso: it's a one. Jeremy Coren: Little bit strange we have to judge that ourselves, huh? Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: I n used I wouldn I should use that one, but it doesn't Micheal Obeso: But it's a one uh Frank Davis: Okay, Micheal Obeso: Maybe Frank Davis: no Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: it's two? True is a one. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Very true, is it very true or isn't that true? Jeremy Coren: Well Micheal Obeso: Well Jeremy Coren: I'd Micheal Obeso: they Jeremy Coren: say Micheal Obeso: think Jeremy Coren: two Micheal Obeso: it's very Jeremy Coren: on a scale Micheal Obeso: true, but Anthony Rodriguez: It's very Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: true, Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: because Frank Davis: I think Anthony Rodriguez: we designed Frank Davis: two. Anthony Rodriguez: it to be very fancy, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but Anthony Rodriguez: It's very fancy, I think. Micheal Obeso: We should Anthony Rodriguez: Have you ever Micheal Obeso: perhaps Anthony Rodriguez: seen a remote control like this? Jeremy Coren: No, okay well, Anthony Rodriguez: No, Jeremy Coren: that's Anthony Rodriguez: okay, Jeremy Coren: true. Anthony Rodriguez: so Frank Davis: That's Micheal Obeso: That Anthony Rodriguez: so Frank Davis: fancy Micheal Obeso: not. Anthony Rodriguez: it's fancy. Frank Davis: enough. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Then? Jeremy Coren: Okay, one two. That doesn't matter that much, Frank Davis: Okay. Jeremy Coren: so Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: make it a one. Frank Davis: Let's give it a two. Is it innovative? Micheal Obeso: I think Frank Davis: Enough. Micheal Obeso: it is, because it has Jeremy Coren: Yeah Micheal Obeso: an L_C_D_ Jeremy Coren: m Micheal Obeso: screen, a mi microphone. Anthony Rodriguez: And uh Frank Davis: We have Micheal Obeso: It's Frank Davis: for Micheal Obeso: from Frank Davis: the search Micheal Obeso: rubber. Anthony Rodriguez: uh the scroll Frank Davis: function. Anthony Rodriguez: is rubber, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: so s Frank Davis: The scroller Anthony Rodriguez: Eno Frank Davis: a bit I think Anthony Rodriguez: enough Frank Davis: it's Anthony Rodriguez: to Micheal Obeso: It's Anthony Rodriguez: I Micheal Obeso: a one Anthony Rodriguez: think. Frank Davis: it's a Micheal Obeso: I Frank Davis: one Micheal Obeso: think. Frank Davis: yeah. True. Also huh uh-huh the buttons, are they easy to find? That was a big requirement of the old people. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, because they're right on your screen. So you can use the b the the arrows. Anthony Rodriguez: Huh. Micheal Obeso: They're right on your screen, so I don't know where you'd Anthony Rodriguez: With the ones Micheal Obeso: search. Frank Davis: Are all the buttons Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: easy to find? Not only this buttons, all the buttons. Micheal Obeso: Well, I think they are. The Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: options are it uh little bit harder, but if you Anthony Rodriguez: Take Micheal Obeso: touch Anthony Rodriguez: a harder Micheal Obeso: the Anthony Rodriguez: look, Micheal Obeso: options Anthony Rodriguez: yeah, Micheal Obeso: then Anthony Rodriguez: sure. Micheal Obeso: it's uh Frank Davis: I think th it's Anthony Rodriguez: It's easier Frank Davis: easy t Anthony Rodriguez: than the regular uh remote control. Frank Davis: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: I Jeremy Coren: and Frank Davis: think Jeremy Coren: you use Frank Davis: this is easy Jeremy Coren: these Frank Davis: now. Jeremy Coren: buttons Frank Davis: I think Jeremy Coren: the most, Frank Davis: th I think Jeremy Coren: huh? Frank Davis: the Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: options Jeremy Coren: So Frank Davis: buttons are not the the easiest way to to Micheal Obeso: No they're not, but they're Frank Davis: to Micheal Obeso: they're Frank Davis: handle. Micheal Obeso: they are easy to find. Frank Davis: True. I Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: would rate Anthony Rodriguez: they Frank Davis: it Anthony Rodriguez: are Frank Davis: a Anthony Rodriguez: a lot easier to find than uh th than on the regular remote controls where you have Micheal Obeso: Oh. Anthony Rodriguez: to uh find out what which sign or icon means on uh every Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: button. Frank Davis: okay, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: that's true, that's Anthony Rodriguez: So Jeremy Coren: So Frank Davis: true. Anthony Rodriguez: you have t you Jeremy Coren: which Anthony Rodriguez: have to use the Frank Davis: But Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: that's Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: that's vantage Anthony Rodriguez: manual Frank Davis: of L_C_D_ Anthony Rodriguez: to Frank Davis: screen, Anthony Rodriguez: understand Frank Davis: you can have Anthony Rodriguez: most Frank Davis: text. Jeremy Coren: So Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: which number are we going Micheal Obeso: I would Jeremy Coren: to Anthony Rodriguez: I Jeremy Coren: fill Micheal Obeso: say Anthony Rodriguez: think Jeremy Coren: in? Anthony Rodriguez: it's Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: uh it's a two, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: at least. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: A Micheal Obeso: you Jeremy Coren: two, Micheal Obeso: can make Jeremy Coren: yeah? Micheal Obeso: it a two. Jeremy Coren: Two, Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: three Anthony Rodriguez: It's not Jeremy Coren: and Anthony Rodriguez: perfect, Jeremy Coren: what do you Anthony Rodriguez: but Jeremy Coren: think? Frank Davis: I think it's a three. Anthony Rodriguez: A three? Jeremy Coren: Okay, Anthony Rodriguez: And Jeremy Coren: so Anthony Rodriguez: why Jeremy Coren: we Anthony Rodriguez: is Frank Davis: I Jeremy Coren: have Anthony Rodriguez: that? Frank Davis: personally Jeremy Coren: two, Frank Davis: think, because Jeremy Coren: two, Frank Davis: I d I don't Jeremy Coren: three. Frank Davis: think i maybe it's easy to use, it has to be easy to find right away. I I think if you have the button at the right, I don't think you can find the option Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but Frank Davis: button Micheal Obeso: you don't have Frank Davis: that Micheal Obeso: t Frank Davis: easy. Micheal Obeso: have to use the button on the right. Frank Davis: You Micheal Obeso: You Frank Davis: can Micheal Obeso: can touch it. Frank Davis: touch it. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: It said bo Micheal Obeso: You you Anthony Rodriguez: both Micheal Obeso: can touch Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: options. Micheal Obeso: options. Frank Davis: okay, but you have y then you have here s written option on here, the teletext button, right? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: Okay, then okay, good. Then I think also two, yeah. Micheal Obeso: You can touch options and Jeremy Coren: A Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: two, Micheal Obeso: comes Jeremy Coren: okay, Micheal Obeso: out. Frank Davis: Yep. Anthony Rodriguez: A Jeremy Coren: because Anthony Rodriguez: two, Jeremy Coren: we have Anthony Rodriguez: a two. Jeremy Coren: to Micheal Obeso: The uh the Jeremy Coren: It's Micheal Obeso: um Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Jeremy Coren: the Anthony Rodriguez: the Jeremy Coren: box Anthony Rodriguez: next Jeremy Coren: below Micheal Obeso: Below. Anthony Rodriguez: question Jeremy Coren: it, huh? Anthony Rodriguez: the next question. Oh my God. Jeremy Coren: Otherwise we have two results in one question. Micheal Obeso: It's different. Jeremy Coren: Okay, next Frank Davis: It's Jeremy Coren: question. Frank Davis: easy to use, as well for younger as elderl elderly people. Micheal Obeso: For young people I think it's easy to use. Frank Davis: Young means Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: sixteen Anthony Rodriguez: I was Frank Davis: to forty years. Anthony Rodriguez: uh Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: And elderly from forty Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: eight to their Micheal Obeso: I think Frank Davis: death. Micheal Obeso: it's Anthony Rodriguez: I think it's the most useful uh remote control ever to be manufactured. Jeremy Coren: Okay, you're very enthusiastic Frank Davis: Also Jeremy Coren: about Micheal Obeso: In the entire Jeremy Coren: your Frank Davis: if Jeremy Coren: own Frank Davis: you're Jeremy Coren: design, Micheal Obeso: mankind. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: sixty Anthony Rodriguez: but Jeremy Coren: huh? Anthony Rodriguez: because Frank Davis: years Anthony Rodriguez: it has Frank Davis: old Anthony Rodriguez: the regular uh controls, li uh as you can see in the screen now, and uh So it's Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: t I think it's really easy to use. You want Frank Davis: Also Anthony Rodriguez: these options Jeremy Coren: As well for Anthony Rodriguez: to Jeremy Coren: the for the older Frank Davis: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: people? Frank Davis: as well Anthony Rodriguez: Uh sure. Frank Davis: as your if you're fif sixty years old, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but uh Frank Davis: you're holding one of those things in your Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: hand No, Micheal Obeso: right? Frank Davis: but we're going Micheal Obeso: So Frank Davis: to th make this f for a all kind of people, Jeremy Coren: And Frank Davis: so it it Jeremy Coren: would Frank Davis: it Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: it Frank Davis: has Micheal Obeso: okay, Jeremy Coren: be easy Frank Davis: to Micheal Obeso: but Frank Davis: be Micheal Obeso: so Jeremy Coren: for them Micheal Obeso: they could Jeremy Coren: to use the speech recognition? Micheal Obeso: Uh I think it is. If they read a manual. Jeremy Coren: Because that might Frank Davis: If Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: you Jeremy Coren: Okay, Frank Davis: read Anthony Rodriguez: Perhaps Frank Davis: the Jeremy Coren: well Anthony Rodriguez: that Frank Davis: manual, Anthony Rodriguez: is Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: one of the Micheal Obeso: alright. Anthony Rodriguez: most Frank Davis: always. Anthony Rodriguez: uh Jeremy Coren: M Micheal Obeso: Because Jeremy Coren: maybe Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Micheal Obeso: it Anthony Rodriguez: because Jeremy Coren: that's Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: the Anthony Rodriguez: a lot Jeremy Coren: most Micheal Obeso: not Anthony Rodriguez: of Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: user Micheal Obeso: not Jeremy Coren: friendly Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: and Micheal Obeso: it's not Jeremy Coren: easy to Micheal Obeso: uh difficult. Jeremy Coren: use. Micheal Obeso: You say you say uh Anthony Rodriguez: Channel Micheal Obeso: record Anthony Rodriguez: one, channel four, yeah. Micheal Obeso: to to the to the speech recognition, then you say the question and the answer. And that's everything it does, the speech recognition. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, well maybe that would make it even Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: more easy to use for Micheal Obeso: I Jeremy Coren: them. Micheal Obeso: think it would Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: make Anthony Rodriguez: I think Micheal Obeso: it uh Anthony Rodriguez: it does. Frank Davis: So Anthony Rodriguez: Because all the people who can't uh Micheal Obeso: I would make it two. Frank Davis: Also two? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Frank Davis: Not Anthony Rodriguez: a Frank Davis: a seven Anthony Rodriguez: two. Frank Davis: for this? Anthony Rodriguez: Sure, two. Oh. Jeremy Coren: I'd say three. Micheal Obeso: Three? Frank Davis: I would also say three. Micheal Obeso: Oh. Jeremy Coren: Okay, Micheal Obeso: You? Jeremy Coren: so we have three three two two or Anthony Rodriguez: Two. Micheal Obeso: Oh. Well Jeremy Coren: So what are we going to do? Micheal Obeso: Two and a Jeremy Coren: Okay, a three, I see. Micheal Obeso: half. Jeremy Coren: Uh Micheal Obeso: Three? Anthony Rodriguez: Give Micheal Obeso: No. Anthony Rodriguez: Frank Davis more. Jeremy Coren: Another question. Frank Davis: Remotes overwhelmed with buttons. Micheal Obeso: No. Anthony Rodriguez: No. Jeremy Coren: No. Frank Davis: No, that that's that's Micheal Obeso: But Frank Davis: yeah. Micheal Obeso: um I mean, Frank Davis: Tha Micheal Obeso: that's Frank Davis: that's a one, Micheal Obeso: definitely Frank Davis: I think, Micheal Obeso: one. Frank Davis: that's definitely Anthony Rodriguez: That's Frank Davis: a Anthony Rodriguez: definitely Frank Davis: one. Anthony Rodriguez: our Micheal Obeso: Oh nee, Anthony Rodriguez: uh Micheal Obeso: oh seven is it? It is. Frank Davis: No? Oh Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: yeah. Micheal Obeso: uh the remote Anthony Rodriguez: A Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: false, Micheal Obeso: score. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Jeremy Coren: but I think you should make it one scale with with one Frank Davis: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: being good and Frank Davis: I think Jeremy Coren: seven being Frank Davis: isn't, Jeremy Coren: bad, because Frank Davis: this Jeremy Coren: otherwise Frank Davis: has to be Jeremy Coren: we can't uh Frank Davis: something Micheal Obeso: It's not Frank Davis: like Micheal Obeso: overwhelmed. Jeremy Coren: calculate anything Frank Davis: isn't Jeremy Coren: from Frank Davis: overwhelmed. Jeremy Coren: the Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: results, so Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, indeed. Frank Davis: True. Jeremy Coren: Okay, Micheal Obeso: Yep. Jeremy Coren: a one, because we designed for that, Frank Davis: Remote Jeremy Coren: huh? Frank Davis: control has uh colours that different Micheal Obeso: Yes. Frank Davis: that meet different target groups. Micheal Obeso: 'Cause we make them in different colours, so Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: that they Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: is optional. Frank Davis: That's Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: true. Jeremy Coren: and I though w we had about single colours, but you can also make uh a wood colour, not just one single colour but a Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: wood-like Anthony Rodriguez: Huh. Micheal Obeso: That it that it looks Jeremy Coren: thing, can't Micheal Obeso: like Jeremy Coren: you? Micheal Obeso: wood, Frank Davis: Also Micheal Obeso: like Frank Davis: with Micheal Obeso: something, Frank Davis: rubber? Micheal Obeso: yeah. Uh I think you Jeremy Coren: Whether Micheal Obeso: can. Jeremy Coren: it looks like wood, it isn't w it Frank Davis: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: isn't Frank Davis: okay. Jeremy Coren: wood but Micheal Obeso: It it feels like rubber, Jeremy Coren: You can make Micheal Obeso: but Jeremy Coren: a print on rubber, can't you? Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: Yeah? Micheal Obeso: Well Jeremy Coren: So Micheal Obeso: but Jeremy Coren: that's Micheal Obeso: then Jeremy Coren: a one Micheal Obeso: when Jeremy Coren: then, Micheal Obeso: you Jeremy Coren: huh? Micheal Obeso: scratch it it does come Frank Davis: That's Micheal Obeso: off. Frank Davis: a one? Okay. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, it Micheal Obeso: So Anthony Rodriguez: is Micheal Obeso: that's Anthony Rodriguez: it is Micheal Obeso: a bit Anthony Rodriguez: harder Jeremy Coren: Do you Anthony Rodriguez: to Jeremy Coren: have many questions? Frank Davis: Uh I have Anthony Rodriguez: to like Jeremy Coren: Oh, okay well Micheal Obeso: Oh we have Anthony Rodriguez: Geez. Micheal Obeso: time. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, but we have Anthony Rodriguez: We're Jeremy Coren: We Anthony Rodriguez: getting Jeremy Coren: also Anthony Rodriguez: paid. We're Jeremy Coren: We Anthony Rodriguez: getting paid. Frank Davis: The material Jeremy Coren: have to get Frank Davis: used Jeremy Coren: to the Frank Davis: is Jeremy Coren: money. Frank Davis: spongy, that that's uh that's a one, that's m rubber. Micheal Obeso: What? Jeremy Coren: What Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: spongy. Micheal Obeso: yeah, it's very spongy. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Frank Davis: Yeah, I th Micheal Obeso: Oh but not it's not very Frank Davis: think Micheal Obeso: spongy, Frank Davis: it's not Micheal Obeso: because Frank Davis: the Micheal Obeso: it's Frank Davis: most Micheal Obeso: hard rubber. Frank Davis: spongy thing. Micheal Obeso: I think it's a three. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: it's a three, Jeremy Coren: Uh-huh, yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: because you want to make it uh Micheal Obeso: Hard Anthony Rodriguez: rather Micheal Obeso: but Anthony Rodriguez: flexible but not too flexible, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: because Micheal Obeso: You can Anthony Rodriguez: it has Micheal Obeso: break Anthony Rodriguez: a L_C_D_ Micheal Obeso: it. Anthony Rodriguez: screen. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Remote control Anthony Rodriguez: Hard Frank Davis: is hard to Anthony Rodriguez: to Frank Davis: lose. Anthony Rodriguez: lose, yeah it sh Micheal Obeso: Y yeah, you could you Anthony Rodriguez: and Micheal Obeso: could Anthony Rodriguez: it's Micheal Obeso: call Anthony Rodriguez: easy Frank Davis: Y Anthony Rodriguez: to Micheal Obeso: it. Frank Davis: you Anthony Rodriguez: find. Frank Davis: can't you can't lose it if you're sixty years old. If first time see the thing you didn didn't adjust uh set the microphone, and then you Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: lose it, then you have lost Micheal Obeso: y you Frank Davis: it. Micheal Obeso: can lose it, but it isn't hard to lose. Frank Davis: It isn't hard, no. I think I think this is a two, personally. Micheal Obeso: Two. That it's hard to lose? Frank Davis: No. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, it it is Anthony Rodriguez: Isn't hard Micheal Obeso: there's Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: the Anthony Rodriguez: to Micheal Obeso: it's Anthony Rodriguez: lose. Jeremy Coren: so isn't Micheal Obeso: a six, Jeremy Coren: hard to lose Micheal Obeso: you think? Anthony Rodriguez: Isn't hard to lose, yeah. Jeremy Coren: you. Frank Davis: Isn't hard to lose. Micheal Obeso: So it's a two. Yeah, you can lose it, so I don't Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: you can make Frank Davis: You Micheal Obeso: it Frank Davis: can't Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: lose Micheal Obeso: three Frank Davis: it. Micheal Obeso: I It Frank Davis: Or Micheal Obeso: does have Frank Davis: if you're Micheal Obeso: an Frank Davis: you're Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: sixty Micheal Obeso: built in Frank Davis: years Micheal Obeso: function. Frank Davis: old, Jeremy Coren: Yeah, but a har Frank Davis: your demands Jeremy Coren: A hard to lose is good. So it should this Micheal Obeso: Nee. Jeremy Coren: question should be hard to lose. Micheal Obeso: Hard Jeremy Coren: It's Micheal Obeso: to Jeremy Coren: difficult Micheal Obeso: lose. Jeremy Coren: to lose Micheal Obeso: Oh Jeremy Coren: it. Micheal Obeso: right. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, this this is Micheal Obeso: It Anthony Rodriguez: hard Micheal Obeso: is Anthony Rodriguez: to Micheal Obeso: hard Anthony Rodriguez: lose. Micheal Obeso: to lose. Yeah, so then this is it Anthony Rodriguez: This Micheal Obeso: is almost Frank Davis: I Jeremy Coren: A two. Frank Davis: think Micheal Obeso: true, so a two. Frank Davis: yeah, Jeremy Coren: A two. Frank Davis: I think also. Anthony Rodriguez: Two, yeah. Jeremy Coren: Okay. Anthony Rodriguez: And most all because of the option to Frank Davis: Huh? Anthony Rodriguez: Whoa. Micheal Obeso: Ooh. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, it's okay. That happens above also. Micheal Obeso: Oh. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Jeremy Coren: But Frank Davis: Yeah? Jeremy Coren: maybe when you scroll away Frank Davis: Oh, okay. Jeremy Coren: and back it will be normal, but Yep. Frank Davis: No. Jeremy Coren: Oh, Micheal Obeso: Oh well, Jeremy Coren: it Micheal Obeso: it Jeremy Coren: isn't, Micheal Obeso: doesn't. Jeremy Coren: well okay. Remember. Anthony Rodriguez: put the cor cursor on Frank Davis: Okay Anthony Rodriguez: the. Frank Davis: okay okay. Remote Anthony Rodriguez: Click. Frank Davis: control mainly be sold to younger people. Anthony Rodriguez: True. Micheal Obeso: I think it will, Frank Davis: Yeah? Anthony Rodriguez: True. Micheal Obeso: yeah. Frank Davis: True? Very true? Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Micheal Obeso: Uh Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Frank Davis: No, Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Jeremy Coren: There. Micheal Obeso: well I Frank Davis: I don't think very true because Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: the colours. Micheal Obeso: a two. Frank Davis: We have the colours. Um we have the buttons is aren't that that much. Anthony Rodriguez: Materials, yeah. Frank Davis: Nah, the material isn't that Micheal Obeso: It's Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Micheal Obeso: it's Anthony Rodriguez: okay. Micheal Obeso: much more younger. Frank Davis: So I don Anthony Rodriguez: So ma Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: uh make Frank Davis: think Anthony Rodriguez: it make Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: it a Frank Davis: think Anthony Rodriguez: two. Frank Davis: it's a three. Jeremy Coren: Well I think it's it's uh a lower number, so better because w we designed it for young people Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: especially, Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: I Frank Davis: but Micheal Obeso: think Frank Davis: I Micheal Obeso: it's Frank Davis: uh Micheal Obeso: a Jeremy Coren: didn't Micheal Obeso: two Jeremy Coren: we? Micheal Obeso: but Frank Davis: Okay, okay. Jeremy Coren: What do you think? Frank Davis: I think Jeremy Coren: Questions? Anthony Rodriguez: A Frank Davis: because Anthony Rodriguez: two? I think it's two. Jeremy Coren: Two. Frank Davis: yeah? Anthony Rodriguez: I think it's two Jeremy Coren: Uh-huh. Anthony Rodriguez: too, two too too. Micheal Obeso: Two two two. Let's make everything Frank Davis: In Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: the Micheal Obeso: two. Frank Davis: features? Jeremy Coren: Dissatisfy younger people. Micheal Obeso: Younger Jeremy Coren: Um Micheal Obeso: people. It Anthony Rodriguez: Well Micheal Obeso: has Anthony Rodriguez: perhaps not. Micheal Obeso: What Frank Davis: Because younger Micheal Obeso: did Frank Davis: peoples are cr critical and they wanted a lot of features on Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: this thing. Micheal Obeso: Well Anthony Rodriguez: Well, Micheal Obeso: that it Anthony Rodriguez: n Micheal Obeso: doesn't. Anthony Rodriguez: not exactly but uh uh if it had some games on it or something like Micheal Obeso: Yeah Anthony Rodriguez: that, Micheal Obeso: bu but Anthony Rodriguez: but it's for a remote control I think it i Micheal Obeso: I think Anthony Rodriguez: it would Micheal Obeso: they Anthony Rodriguez: satisfy Micheal Obeso: like the speech. Anthony Rodriguez: those needs. Yeah, the Micheal Obeso: You Anthony Rodriguez: speech Micheal Obeso: could call Anthony Rodriguez: possibility, Frank Davis: L_C_D_ Micheal Obeso: to your uh Frank Davis: screen Micheal Obeso: yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: the colours. Micheal Obeso: and Frank Davis: and scroll. Micheal Obeso: the screen, Anthony Rodriguez: Scroll Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: options, yeah. Frank Davis: I I think they'll be quite met with their expectations. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: Right, Frank Davis: No. Micheal Obeso: that that that Jeremy Coren: It Micheal Obeso: those Jeremy Coren: has Micheal Obeso: are features. Jeremy Coren: relatively Frank Davis: It's three Jeremy Coren: few Frank Davis: features, Jeremy Coren: features, Frank Davis: basically, Jeremy Coren: with Frank Davis: the L_C_D_ touch screen is feature. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: The Micheal Obeso: No, aren't Frank Davis: microphone Micheal Obeso: the features Frank Davis: is a feature. Micheal Obeso: the microphone's feature and that you can change the channel's feature, and that you can change Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: the volume is feature, and that you can change the options of the remote, Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: uh uh Frank Davis: okay. Jeremy Coren: Ours Micheal Obeso: something Jeremy Coren: had other Micheal Obeso: like that. Jeremy Coren: features with Frank Davis: I think Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: yeah, and then you have the Anthony Rodriguez: The Frank Davis: audio Anthony Rodriguez: easy Frank Davis: settings, Anthony Rodriguez: volume Frank Davis: channel Anthony Rodriguez: up Frank Davis: setting, Anthony Rodriguez: button. Micheal Obeso: Those Frank Davis: video Micheal Obeso: are Frank Davis: settings. Micheal Obeso: features. Anthony Rodriguez: Remote younger people usually use the remote control to put on the volume. Frank Davis: Yeah yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Turn uh turn Frank Davis: So I've Anthony Rodriguez: up Frank Davis: chos Anthony Rodriguez: the volume. Frank Davis: I shou I think it's it's it's a one. Micheal Obeso: Enough features? Frank Davis: Personally, yeah. I think once you've 'cause you have the channel features b uh you have the uh screen features, audio features, the you have all buttons on it which you'd like, microphone extra, L_C_D_ screen extra, scroll thing extra. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Okay, you think one, what do you think? Micheal Obeso: I think Jeremy Coren: You. Micheal Obeso: two or three. Jeremy Coren: three, yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Two. Jeremy Coren: I'd say three, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Yeah Jeremy Coren: two Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: Make Jeremy Coren: it Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: it Jeremy Coren: is Micheal Obeso: two Jeremy Coren: then Frank Davis: make Jeremy Coren: or Frank Davis: it a Micheal Obeso: a Frank Davis: two. Micheal Obeso: two. Anthony Rodriguez: One two three. Frank Davis: Or make Micheal Obeso: Just Frank Davis: it Micheal Obeso: another Frank Davis: uh Micheal Obeso: two. Frank Davis: a fucking Micheal Obeso: We Frank Davis: two. Micheal Obeso: like Anthony Rodriguez: Right. Micheal Obeso: two. Frank Davis: You can see the remote control is R_ and R_. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, there's Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Micheal Obeso: R_ and Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: R_ in front. Jeremy Coren: Yep. Micheal Obeso: Uh it's not the colour, so maybe you should make two, but it has R_ and Frank Davis: Has Micheal Obeso: R_. Frank Davis: oh yeah, do did have nah y you have the black one. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: And we'll probably make also a yellow one. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: but not R_ Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: and R_ Jeremy Coren: maybe Micheal Obeso: yellow Jeremy Coren: maybe Micheal Obeso: I think. Jeremy Coren: two. Well m th Frank Davis: Maybe Jeremy Coren: but Frank Davis: two. Jeremy Coren: the logo Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, true, Jeremy Coren: is on Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Jeremy Coren: on the front, so Micheal Obeso: One Frank Davis: X_ Micheal Obeso: d on i Frank Davis: marks Micheal Obeso: it's Frank Davis: spot. Micheal Obeso: the Jeremy Coren: a two, Micheal Obeso: colours Jeremy Coren: yeah, that's Micheal Obeso: and the Frank Davis: And the menu is avail that is available is easy to use. Micheal Obeso: I think it is, but I don't know what you think. Anthony Rodriguez: I think it's easier to use than a regular remote control, Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: because Frank Davis: tha Anthony Rodriguez: when Frank Davis: that's Anthony Rodriguez: you push Frank Davis: so true. Anthony Rodriguez: on the options menu, you get the the the various options uh entirely explained. Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Anthony Rodriguez: Entirely explained. Instead of uh just finding out what an icon means on a button. Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Micheal Obeso: And Frank Davis: uh Micheal Obeso: you can navigate easier, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, you Micheal Obeso: because Anthony Rodriguez: can navigate. Micheal Obeso: wi with the you have to push the the the arrows and with a normal Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Micheal Obeso: T_V_ uh remote. Frank Davis: I think that wou that would be quite hard to learn Anthony Rodriguez: You're not Frank Davis: to Anthony Rodriguez: satisfied, Frank Davis: use it. Anthony Rodriguez: okay. Frank Davis: No, I'm Anthony Rodriguez: Let's start Frank Davis: not not Anthony Rodriguez: over Frank Davis: convinc. Anthony Rodriguez: again then. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Let's make a different remote. Frank Davis: Let's go th Micheal Obeso: Well Frank Davis: for Micheal Obeso: Menu. Frank Davis: I think it would be a t yeah, two. Micheal Obeso: A two? Frank Davis: Now lower. Anthony Rodriguez: A two. Jeremy Coren: Oh, Micheal Obeso: We only Jeremy Coren: well Micheal Obeso: have Jeremy Coren: that's Micheal Obeso: twos. Jeremy Coren: that's pretty good, huh? Anthony Rodriguez: Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Uh just Frank Davis: So Micheal Obeso: twos. Frank Davis: okay, Anthony Rodriguez: And Micheal Obeso: One Anthony Rodriguez: three. Frank Davis: we Micheal Obeso: three Frank Davis: have Micheal Obeso: and a few ones. Frank Davis: one three, a one, that that have to got Micheal Obeso: Two threes. Frank Davis: up. Two two two Micheal Obeso: We Frank Davis: two Micheal Obeso: m Frank Davis: two. Micheal Obeso: mostly have twos, Frank Davis: So two, yeah. Micheal Obeso: so it's pretty good. Frank Davis: The average is a two. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: That Anthony Rodriguez: The average. Frank Davis: is quite good Micheal Obeso: Yeah. I think Frank Davis: in my Micheal Obeso: so Frank Davis: opinion. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: too. Anthony Rodriguez: I think so. Frank Davis: That Micheal Obeso: We Frank Davis: Ooh. Micheal Obeso: can be happy. Anthony Rodriguez: Save. Frank Davis: Ooh. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. What is it? It's like a bug Anthony Rodriguez: It's Micheal Obeso: or Anthony Rodriguez: a fly. Micheal Obeso: something. A fly, yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh m Micheal Obeso: A f butterfly. Frank Davis: Top. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. That's it. Frank Davis: Okay. Jeremy Coren: That was your evaluation uh Frank Davis: Yes. Jeremy Coren: show, okay, so we don't Micheal Obeso: Sure. Jeremy Coren: have to calculate anything because of um Frank Davis: No, it's Jeremy Coren: these Frank Davis: two. Jeremy Coren: results. Okay, good. Frank Davis: The Micheal Obeso: It's Frank Davis: average Micheal Obeso: good. Frank Davis: is two. Jeremy Coren: Um Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: let's see oh, it isn't asked to save but it did Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: already Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: Exactly. Frank Davis: I uh uh I uh Jeremy Coren: And Frank Davis: saved Jeremy Coren: this Frank Davis: it. Jeremy Coren: Everything okay. Well, the next part uh might be a little bit difficult to do in a group, but I am willing to try it. Because we are going to look at the finance and I have Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: a nice Excel sheet to do that. Micheal Obeso: Redesign. No. Jeremy Coren: And um I'm not sure if I put it in the project folder. look on that. Um and we're going to calculate the production costs, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: and if they are uh under or at twelve Euro fifty, we're good, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: and if they're not we're going to uh re-design, Micheal Obeso: So we're going Jeremy Coren: but Micheal Obeso: to Jeremy Coren: we have to do that Micheal Obeso: erase Jeremy Coren: uh Micheal Obeso: features Jeremy Coren: very Micheal Obeso: or Jeremy Coren: very Micheal Obeso: something. Jeremy Coren: quick I think, yes. Um I don't know if I Micheal Obeso: Do you have the cost or uh Jeremy Coren: put the Excel sheet in the Micheal Obeso: Let's hope. Jeremy Coren: n not in the Frank Davis: f Micheal Obeso: We're going Jeremy Coren: folder. Frank Davis: fifty Micheal Obeso: to be here Frank Davis: five Jeremy Coren: I Micheal Obeso: at eight Frank Davis: Euros. Micheal Obeso: o'clock. Jeremy Coren: think it's I think it's still in my own documents folder. Micheal Obeso: We're goin still going to be here at eight o'clock. Frank Davis: No. Micheal Obeso: I doubt Jeremy Coren: Oh shit. Micheal Obeso: it. Perhaps we've got features that don't exist Frank Davis: Yeah Micheal Obeso: in the Excel Frank Davis: mm Micheal Obeso: sheet. Frank Davis: yeah, maybe. Jeremy Coren: So Frank Davis: The microphone. Micheal Obeso: No, it was in my uh my Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: information, Anthony Rodriguez: It Micheal Obeso: so Anthony Rodriguez: i Frank Davis: Yeah? Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: It wasn't too much. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: maybe you're going scrap Anthony Rodriguez: As well as the L_C_D_ screen. Frank Davis: scrap Anthony Rodriguez: Whoa. Frank Davis: it. Jeremy Coren: Okay, Micheal Obeso: Well, Jeremy Coren: well Micheal Obeso: if it doesn't Jeremy Coren: this is Micheal Obeso: work Jeremy Coren: it. Um maybe I could ask one of you to uh fill it in, so that I can also uh Micheal Obeso: I Jeremy Coren: take Micheal Obeso: want Jeremy Coren: minutes, Micheal Obeso: to fill it in, Frank Davis: No prob. Micheal Obeso: but uh Jeremy Coren: and uh maybe the other can uh use that thing to count uh numerous Frank Davis: Ah. Jeremy Coren: functions. Micheal Obeso: But you should uh Frank Davis: Count Micheal Obeso: direct Frank Davis: it? Li like write Jeremy Coren: Well Frank Davis: it Jeremy Coren: we have to Frank Davis: be Jeremy Coren: count some things and we have to think about some things. Anthony Rodriguez: Count it. Jeremy Coren: But Anthony Rodriguez: You Jeremy Coren: you have Anthony Rodriguez: got Jeremy Coren: to fill Anthony Rodriguez: Excel Jeremy Coren: in Anthony Rodriguez: to count. Jeremy Coren: this Micheal Obeso: The number Jeremy Coren: column, Micheal Obeso: of Jeremy Coren: huh? No, uh count uh number of functions, because Anthony Rodriguez: Oh okay. Jeremy Coren: for every button you have to Anthony Rodriguez: Well Jeremy Coren: pay Frank Davis: Ah, Jeremy Coren: and Anthony Rodriguez: I dra Frank Davis: okay, Anthony Rodriguez: uh Jeremy Coren: there are Anthony Rodriguez: Danny, Jeremy Coren: different screen Anthony Rodriguez: Danny, Jeremy Coren: shots, Frank Davis: cool. Jeremy Coren: so Frank Davis: Huh? Anthony Rodriguez: I'll do that, because Frank Davis: Yeah? Jeremy Coren: or Frank Davis: Oh, Anthony Rodriguez: I draw Jeremy Coren: different Frank Davis: yea yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: you Anthony Rodriguez: uh Frank Davis: design Jeremy Coren: different Frank Davis: it. Jeremy Coren: screens, so Micheal Obeso: We've got a battery, one or t two batteries, Frank Davis: Um Micheal Obeso: or not? nee one battery, with two small batteries. Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, but it's it's more about the energy source, huh? Do you Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: use a hand dynamo, a battery, Micheal Obeso: I would do a battery Jeremy Coren: kinetic or solar Micheal Obeso: we do. Jeremy Coren: cells? Frank Davis: Solar Micheal Obeso: Right? Frank Davis: cell. No it took Micheal Obeso: A Jeremy Coren: We'll Anthony Rodriguez: No, Micheal Obeso: battery. Frank Davis: a Anthony Rodriguez: no Jeremy Coren: wait. Frank Davis: battery? Anthony Rodriguez: solar cell, no no no no. Micheal Obeso: One battery, right? Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: No Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: hand dynamo. Hand Micheal Obeso: Electronics, Frank Davis: We have Micheal Obeso: simple chip advanced chip, right? Frank Davis: No, we have sample speaker. Anthony Rodriguez: On advanced chip. Frank Davis: But b al but we also have sample speaker, do Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Micheal Obeso: so this one and this one. Uh we Frank Davis: Oh, Micheal Obeso: ha Frank Davis: we Micheal Obeso: we Frank Davis: already Micheal Obeso: have um Frank Davis: on Micheal Obeso: single Frank Davis: nine. Micheal Obeso: what? Are we? Oh yay. Frank Davis: We have double curved. Anthony Rodriguez: Single nee single Micheal Obeso: The single. Anthony Rodriguez: curved. Frank Davis: Single. Anthony Rodriguez: Double curved was uh uh see uh ju three dimensional. But it isn't three dimensional, Frank Davis: This Micheal Obeso: Oh Anthony Rodriguez: it Frank Davis: one Anthony Rodriguez: isn't Frank Davis: is Micheal Obeso: the Anthony Rodriguez: curved Micheal Obeso: the it's Anthony Rodriguez: in Micheal Obeso: not Anthony Rodriguez: a Micheal Obeso: going to Anthony Rodriguez: l Micheal Obeso: work uh people. We have Frank Davis: This Micheal Obeso: rubber. Frank Davis: one is curved like this, right. Jeremy Coren: I'll just Frank Davis: It's Jeremy Coren: fill it Frank Davis: curved Jeremy Coren: in. Frank Davis: like Anthony Rodriguez: No Frank Davis: this. Anthony Rodriguez: no no, single Jeremy Coren: Um Anthony Rodriguez: curved Jeremy Coren: rubber Anthony Rodriguez: is like Jeremy Coren: indeed? Anthony Rodriguez: this. Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: Uh Frank Davis: bu Anthony Rodriguez: that's Frank Davis: what Anthony Rodriguez: the only curve you made, not th uh curved like that. That's uh Frank Davis: Oh, but we have curves like it and it. There are two curves, Micheal Obeso: Thirteen? Frank Davis: right? Oh, okay I understand, I Anthony Rodriguez: Huh? Frank Davis: understand. Micheal Obeso: With a scroll wheel, right? Frank Davis: Rubber. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Is he integrated? No, eh? I Frank Davis: Push Micheal Obeso: don't Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: button. Micheal Obeso: know. Frank Davis: No, we don't have push Anthony Rodriguez: we gotta Frank Davis: button. Anthony Rodriguez: integrate scroll wheel and push button, because when you push it and you w it won't just pu Micheal Obeso: Oh Anthony Rodriguez: uh Micheal Obeso: yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: makes Micheal Obeso: right, Anthony Rodriguez: possible Micheal Obeso: we want Anthony Rodriguez: to s Micheal Obeso: it to it's not it's not no. Frank Davis: L_C_D_ Anthony Rodriguez: Not going Frank Davis: display. Anthony Rodriguez: to work? Okay. Micheal Obeso: Yep. Fifteen, oh, too bad. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay um Micheal Obeso: Oh but with special colour we have. A special form, right? Anthony Rodriguez: But now button supplements. We don't got the button supplements. Micheal Obeso: Oh, we don't have any buttons, so Frank Davis: Eighteen and a half, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: damn. Micheal Obeso: we need to uh Frank Davis: We Anthony Rodriguez: Damn. Frank Davis: have to lower it with six points. Micheal Obeso: No, Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: uh we have fifteen and Frank Davis: Twelve and half. Micheal Obeso: oh, right. We could lose the curve. Anthony Rodriguez: Nah. Frank Davis: We could use Micheal Obeso: Yeah, I Anthony Rodriguez: We Micheal Obeso: would Anthony Rodriguez: could Micheal Obeso: lose Anthony Rodriguez: lose Micheal Obeso: the curve. Anthony Rodriguez: the scroll wheel. You could make it just a regular scroll wheel. Micheal Obeso: But you can't push it, so Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: you have Anthony Rodriguez: if you Micheal Obeso: to Anthony Rodriguez: can't Micheal Obeso: tap. Anthony Rodriguez: push it you have to tap the the options window uh button here and then uh scroll down with the d with uh with uh the Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: button. Micheal Obeso: alright. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, I think that will Micheal Obeso: So Jeremy Coren: be Micheal Obeso: normal scroll wheel? Jeremy Coren: our best Anthony Rodriguez: Normal scroll Jeremy Coren: bet. Anthony Rodriguez: wheel. Micheal Obeso: And I think we should lose Frank Davis: I think Micheal Obeso: the curve. Frank Davis: we should Anthony Rodriguez: Lose Frank Davis: scrap the sample speaker. It's four pri it four units. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but if you would i it is a new feature, it it's something Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, so Micheal Obeso: special. Anthony Rodriguez: we don't exactly need the single Frank Davis: But w Anthony Rodriguez: We Frank Davis: d Anthony Rodriguez: don't need Frank Davis: wha Anthony Rodriguez: a curve. Micheal Obeso: No, Anthony Rodriguez: 'S possible Micheal Obeso: the curve Anthony Rodriguez: to Frank Davis: Curved Anthony Rodriguez: lose Micheal Obeso: doesn't Frank Davis: then Anthony Rodriguez: curve. Frank Davis: it Micheal Obeso: really Frank Davis: will be square. Micheal Obeso: No, then it will won't uh stand up from the table. Then Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Frank Davis: Was Micheal Obeso: it Frank Davis: that Micheal Obeso: would Frank Davis: does Micheal Obeso: just Frank Davis: that mean to it, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: single Anthony Rodriguez: that's Frank Davis: curve? Anthony Rodriguez: meant Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: with scr uh with s curve. The curve is uh in a dimension. Frank Davis: Okay. Anthony Rodriguez: If you make it a flat Micheal Obeso: So Anthony Rodriguez: one, s n it's no curve, you got Micheal Obeso: We would Anthony Rodriguez: no Micheal Obeso: lose Anthony Rodriguez: curves. Micheal Obeso: this one? Frank Davis: Yeah, but tha that Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: that Anthony Rodriguez: okay. Frank Davis: only is one. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, we Anthony Rodriguez: No, Micheal Obeso: could Anthony Rodriguez: two. Micheal Obeso: s yeah, a bit. Frank Davis: No, one. Micheal Obeso: Sixteen Anthony Rodriguez: Oh, Micheal Obeso: point Anthony Rodriguez: okay, Micheal Obeso: three. Anthony Rodriguez: indeed. Frank Davis: So we don't Micheal Obeso: So we Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: still Frank Davis: we also have to Anthony Rodriguez: Is it possible to make Micheal Obeso: Could could we do it on a regular chip on print or something? Frank Davis: No, otherwise we don't have an L_C_D_ screen. Micheal Obeso: No? Ma Anthony Rodriguez: No. Micheal Obeso: y you just can't Jeremy Coren: And Micheal Obeso: do that, Jeremy Coren: what did Micheal Obeso: or Jeremy Coren: you Micheal Obeso: uh Jeremy Coren: change? You changed the Micheal Obeso: We changed th Jeremy Coren: uh scroll wheel and Micheal Obeso: Yeah, and the Frank Davis: Single Micheal Obeso: single curved Frank Davis: curved. Micheal Obeso: to uncurved. Jeremy Coren: Oh, Frank Davis: Flat. Jeremy Coren: but it's just one Frank Davis: Yeah, so that does doesn't Jeremy Coren: point, Frank Davis: doesn't Micheal Obeso: No. Jeremy Coren: so Frank Davis: that mu Jeremy Coren: maybe Frank Davis: I think Jeremy Coren: you should should uh Frank Davis: Scrap sample speaker? Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: That Jeremy Coren: you Frank Davis: that's Anthony Rodriguez: The Jeremy Coren: should Anthony Rodriguez: sample Frank Davis: uh Anthony Rodriguez: speaker Jeremy Coren: you Anthony Rodriguez: is Jeremy Coren: should Anthony Rodriguez: two d Jeremy Coren: drop Anthony Rodriguez: wait, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: the Micheal Obeso: but Anthony Rodriguez: f s Micheal Obeso: it's Jeremy Coren: speech Anthony Rodriguez: four Micheal Obeso: t Anthony Rodriguez: points. Jeremy Coren: recognition. Frank Davis: Yes, four points. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but Jeremy Coren: And Micheal Obeso: it Jeremy Coren: then Micheal Obeso: is Jeremy Coren: you can Micheal Obeso: uh Jeremy Coren: keep the curve. Micheal Obeso: it it is a new feature, it Jeremy Coren: Or Micheal Obeso: is Jeremy Coren: can't Micheal Obeso: something Jeremy Coren: you? Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, uh Micheal Obeso: special. Anthony Rodriguez: becau Frank Davis: Yeah, but Anthony Rodriguez: uh Frank Davis: what what Anthony Rodriguez: when Frank Davis: else Anthony Rodriguez: you lose Frank Davis: what else Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: uh do you want to scrap? F You have Micheal Obeso: I Frank Davis: to Micheal Obeso: don't Frank Davis: we Micheal Obeso: know. Frank Davis: have to scrap four points. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, that's difficult. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Or make it on a hand dynamo, but I Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: don't think that Frank Davis: Ma Jeremy Coren: will Frank Davis: make Jeremy Coren: work. Frank Davis: it with wood instead of rubber? Anthony Rodriguez: No, that's no. Make it Micheal Obeso: Uh. Anthony Rodriguez: w uh when you made it uh uh uh a remote control of wood? Frank Davis: Yeah, it Anthony Rodriguez: You don't Frank Davis: it Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: i Micheal Obeso: We Anthony Rodriguez: make Micheal Obeso: could Anthony Rodriguez: a Jeremy Coren: mm-hmm. Anthony Rodriguez: remote Micheal Obeso: make it Anthony Rodriguez: control Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: titanium Anthony Rodriguez: of Frank Davis: it also Anthony Rodriguez: Ah. Micheal Obeso: instead of rubber. Frank Davis: uh it also takes one point less. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, but uh a wooden remote control only helps for Micheal Obeso: Oh. Jeremy Coren: uh Micheal Obeso: Oh can I ask something? Jeremy Coren: old people we discussed, Micheal Obeso: What is Jeremy Coren: yes? Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: special colour? Is that the wood uh wood uh Frank Davis: I think it is. Micheal Obeso: this, Anthony Rodriguez: It Micheal Obeso: we Anthony Rodriguez: isn't. Micheal Obeso: have to have that one too? Anthony Rodriguez: What? Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, but it's only a half. But I think the only option is to Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: drop the uh Frank Davis: Sample speaker. Anthony Rodriguez: To knock Jeremy Coren: sample Anthony Rodriguez: the sample Jeremy Coren: speaker. Anthony Rodriguez: speaker, yeah. And sample sensor. Micheal Obeso: Th then we still have too much Frank Davis: Yeah, okay, Micheal Obeso: if Frank Davis: three. Micheal Obeso: we Anthony Rodriguez: But Micheal Obeso: use Anthony Rodriguez: m Micheal Obeso: the Frank Davis: Point Anthony Rodriguez: yeah, Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: three. Anthony Rodriguez: course, but Micheal Obeso: Yeah, we we Anthony Rodriguez: What Micheal Obeso: scrap Anthony Rodriguez: we'll Micheal Obeso: that Anthony Rodriguez: have. Micheal Obeso: one? Frank Davis: Huh? Anthony Rodriguez: Let's make it thirteen or fourteen. Frank Davis: Point twelve. Micheal Obeso: See, a po three. We need point three. Frank Davis: That's a scroll wheel. Micheal Obeso: Uh it's a colour. Don't Anthony Rodriguez: A colour. Micheal Obeso: make it wood. Frank Davis: Yeah, but a wood Micheal Obeso: Make Frank Davis: we can Micheal Obeso: it Frank Davis: make Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: it brown, dark brown, not wood. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but it's it's special colour, is it Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: a all Anthony Rodriguez: special colours, Micheal Obeso: kind of colours? Anthony Rodriguez: fruity colours. Micheal Obeso: It's also green Frank Davis: Is it Micheal Obeso: or Frank Davis: also Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: no Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: that that's just normal colour fruit colours. Normal Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but it's Frank Davis: colours, Micheal Obeso: a special Frank Davis: yellow Micheal Obeso: colour than just rubber colour. You have to add something to the rubber to make it green. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: You don't say here's green rubber. Anthony Rodriguez: They don't Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: sell Frank Davis: but then Anthony Rodriguez: green Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: rubber Frank Davis: d I Anthony Rodriguez: plants. Frank Davis: don't think we can ever make Anthony Rodriguez: Alright. Frank Davis: to a twelve and half. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, you can, you should you have to lose Frank Davis: But then we have to scrap L_C_D_ display, we have to scrap uh Micheal Obeso: No, it is Anthony Rodriguez: No Frank Davis: s Micheal Obeso: the scroll Frank Davis: advanced Anthony Rodriguez: no no. Micheal Obeso: wheel, Frank Davis: chip. Micheal Obeso: I guess. Frank Davis: No then we have to scrap everything we got because how many colours we gonna make? Five? Anthony Rodriguez: If we lose Frank Davis: Then we have Anthony Rodriguez: the Frank Davis: two. Anthony Rodriguez: scroll wheel and make it totally uh depending uh dependent on Frank Davis: S Anthony Rodriguez: uh the Micheal Obeso: A Anthony Rodriguez: touch Frank Davis: touch. Micheal Obeso: push, Anthony Rodriguez: screen Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: then it's possible to make. Frank Davis: Then we Anthony Rodriguez: And Frank Davis: can make Anthony Rodriguez: then you Frank Davis: add Anthony Rodriguez: can Frank Davis: two colours Anthony Rodriguez: and then you can Frank Davis: on Anthony Rodriguez: add Frank Davis: it. Anthony Rodriguez: to the colours. Frank Davis: Yeah, two colours it. Anthony Rodriguez: Special c Micheal Obeso: Switch Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, Micheal Obeso: colours. Anthony Rodriguez: if you lose uh if you lose Micheal Obeso: It Anthony Rodriguez: the Micheal Obeso: was such a great idea. Anthony Rodriguez: You lose Frank Davis: They can Anthony Rodriguez: this one, Frank Davis: add Anthony Rodriguez: you got Frank Davis: two Anthony Rodriguez: eleven Frank Davis: colours. Anthony Rodriguez: point five and you make i and then you can make uh the spec single curve, for example. Frank Davis: But the colours. Um how ma uh the colours like l she told, is that all the colours we add or Anthony Rodriguez: How d uh uh how many Micheal Obeso: What Anthony Rodriguez: colours? Micheal Obeso: do you mean? Anthony Rodriguez: Special colours, all the colours you want, because Frank Davis: Yeah, but Anthony Rodriguez: you Frank Davis: we Anthony Rodriguez: want Frank Davis: we Anthony Rodriguez: to make Frank Davis: we Anthony Rodriguez: p Frank Davis: are we have yellow, red, uh black, titanium. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, but uh when you use more than one colour, it's a special colour. Frank Davis: Ah Micheal Obeso: Oh. Frank Davis: okay. Micheal Obeso: But I think Anthony Rodriguez: I Micheal Obeso: when Anthony Rodriguez: suppose. Micheal Obeso: you use the colour that's not originally the rubber then you use special colour, 'cause you have Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: to add Frank Davis: Yeah, but Micheal Obeso: it. Frank Davis: the rubbers alls original black. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, so you always lose the special colour. You co you could Frank Davis: Yeah Micheal Obeso: make Frank Davis: b Micheal Obeso: it always black, Frank Davis: Yeah, but Micheal Obeso: like Frank Davis: we're Micheal Obeso: normal Frank Davis: gonna make Micheal Obeso: remote. Frank Davis: it yellow uh red, and then you add you have two special colours on top of the one Anthony Rodriguez: Nee Frank Davis: we have now. Anthony Rodriguez: we we also want to make Micheal Obeso: Oh right, Anthony Rodriguez: ano another Micheal Obeso: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: colour. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: we Frank Davis: but Micheal Obeso: should Frank Davis: m Micheal Obeso: u Yeah. We have to make this like four or five Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: or something. Frank Davis: because Micheal Obeso: That's what Frank Davis: we have Micheal Obeso: it means. Frank Davis: more colours than only black. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: but isn't it Frank Davis: I Jeremy Coren: per Frank Davis: then I think Jeremy Coren: remote Frank Davis: I p Jeremy Coren: that Frank Davis: I don Jeremy Coren: you Frank Davis: I Jeremy Coren: pay? Frank Davis: don't think they Frank Davis mean Micheal Obeso: Oh right, Jeremy Coren: Half? Frank Davis: they're special Micheal Obeso: yeah. Is it per remote? Jeremy Coren: I think Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: you pay half per remote. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, that's right, Jeremy Coren: So Micheal Obeso: and Jeremy Coren: each Micheal Obeso: you Jeremy Coren: remote Micheal Obeso: one colour Jeremy Coren: with Micheal Obeso: per Jeremy Coren: a special Micheal Obeso: remote. Jeremy Coren: colour. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, indeed, Micheal Obeso: So then Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Micheal Obeso: it is one. Anthony Rodriguez: You don't need four of those Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: uh Frank Davis: okay Anthony Rodriguez: four Frank Davis: okay, Anthony Rodriguez: of Frank Davis: true. Anthony Rodriguez: those special colours in one Frank Davis: True, Anthony Rodriguez: in Frank Davis: true. Anthony Rodriguez: one remote. Micheal Obeso: No. Jeremy Coren: I Frank Davis: We Jeremy Coren: hope. Frank Davis: have two points spare. Jeremy Coren: So the Frank Davis: Nee Jeremy Coren: battery, Frank Davis: one point. Jeremy Coren: we Micheal Obeso: One. Jeremy Coren: have um advanced chip on print. Micheal Obeso: So it would be curved, single curve. Jeremy Coren: Because of thing Micheal Obeso: Or not? Jeremy Coren: Yeah, well Anthony Rodriguez: Hmm. Jeremy Coren: you can at least make it curved again. Micheal Obeso: So Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: y Anthony Rodriguez: single Micheal Obeso: you just Anthony Rodriguez: curve. Micheal Obeso: can't make a nice remote. Jeremy Coren: Because that was Micheal Obeso: It's Jeremy Coren: very important, Micheal Obeso: too Jeremy Coren: huh? Micheal Obeso: bad for the speaker. Jeremy Coren: So it's curved, it's still that so we we dropped the speech recognition Micheal Obeso: Should Frank Davis: Mm Micheal Obeso: we Jeremy Coren: together Micheal Obeso: change Frank Davis: yep. Jeremy Coren: with Micheal Obeso: that Jeremy Coren: the speaker. Micheal Obeso: tha that that's a one if not, or Jeremy Coren: We Micheal Obeso: not? Jeremy Coren: dropped the scroll wheel. Micheal Obeso: Could you copy it? And Jeremy Coren: And Micheal Obeso: make Jeremy Coren: the rest Micheal Obeso: it uh Jeremy Coren: is the same, huh? Frank Davis: Y yea the Jeremy Coren: Am I right? Yes. Frank Davis: scroll wheel Micheal Obeso: The Frank Davis: is Micheal Obeso: entire Frank Davis: dropped. Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Frank Davis: Yep. Anthony Rodriguez: Huh. Micheal Obeso: Perhaps you can then copy page or so. Ooh. Micheal Obeso: No. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Oh you you made the entire could you Anthony Rodriguez: Undo, undo. Undo. Micheal Obeso: Oh not Well. Anthony Rodriguez: So, 'kay. Twenty minutes? Micheal Obeso: Would you? By the Perhaps you can save this one, and then copy or something. Add it copy page. Select all. Jeremy Coren: No, but you c yeah. Micheal Obeso: Alright, something went wrong. Frank Davis: Tap. Jeremy Coren: Okay, but this this new remote Micheal Obeso: It Jeremy Coren: we Micheal Obeso: doesn't Jeremy Coren: can afford. Micheal Obeso: work. Let's forget. Frank Davis: It should've work. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay, so you had this list at start? Jeremy Coren: Hmm? Anthony Rodriguez: Alright. Jeremy Coren: No, Anthony Rodriguez: When Jeremy Coren: I hadn't. Anthony Rodriguez: did you receive this list? Jeremy Coren: I just received it. Anthony Rodriguez: Ah okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Oh ignore Jeremy Coren: They Micheal Obeso: that. Jeremy Coren: don't work so hard at the finance department. Anthony Rodriguez: Ah okay. I Micheal Obeso: Well, so Anthony Rodriguez: suppose this is a Okay, so Micheal Obeso: Too Anthony Rodriguez: we Micheal Obeso: bad. Anthony Rodriguez: lose the scroll wheel, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: the s Micheal Obeso: The microphone. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, and that's it. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: And the microphone. Micheal Obeso: A and we changed something, I guess, or not? We Oh no. Frank Davis: Yep. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Jeremy Coren: Twelve Euro fifty. Um and did you try to make a new design, or what Micheal Obeso: Yeah, I tried Jeremy Coren: were you trying Micheal Obeso: to copy Jeremy Coren: to do? Micheal Obeso: that one, but it didn't work. Jeremy Coren: It didn't work. Micheal Obeso: So we could fix it like tha that it's like this. Jeremy Coren: Hmm. Strange. Micheal Obeso: You could select it all, but then Anthony Rodriguez: Strange. Micheal Obeso: you can't erase. Jeremy Coren: Oh, you Anthony Rodriguez: You Jeremy Coren: can Anthony Rodriguez: can only re Jeremy Coren: arrange Anthony Rodriguez: erase? Micheal Obeso: Erase. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh. Micheal Obeso: When you saw th li uh Earlier when we selected it, w Anthony Rodriguez: Uh, Micheal Obeso: I couldn't erase anything. Anthony Rodriguez: no. Jeremy Coren: Hmm, can't you then just say copy? Anthony Rodriguez: Bling. Jeremy Coren: New page. Paste. Yes. Anthony Rodriguez: Ah. Jeremy Coren: Select none. Micheal Obeso: Just Anthony Rodriguez: just Frank Davis: just Anthony Rodriguez: up Micheal Obeso: tap Anthony Rodriguez: somewhere Frank Davis: tap Anthony Rodriguez: b uh Micheal Obeso: somewhere. Frank Davis: somewhere. Anthony Rodriguez: besides it, right. Jeremy Coren: Okay, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: and now you can erase. Micheal Obeso: I don't think I can, but uh we can try. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh, Jeremy Coren: Well Anthony Rodriguez: we already Jeremy Coren: it Anthony Rodriguez: try. Jeremy Coren: should be possible. Micheal Obeso: Oh, yeah, no, Jeremy Coren: Oh Micheal Obeso: ha-ha. Jeremy Coren: no. Well Frank Davis: No? Jeremy Coren: you can draw over it with white Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: uh Micheal Obeso: we Jeremy Coren: pen. Micheal Obeso: tried it earlier. Jeremy Coren: Oh. Micheal Obeso: It's very much work. Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Sorry. Well but that's also useful for the evaluation, because I think uh we Frank Davis: Evaluation Jeremy Coren: have a prototype Frank Davis: drops. Jeremy Coren: now which we can afford and uh we only need to draw a little bit to get a good uh design. Doodle. And I think we should then move on to the production evaluation because of the time. Frank Davis: And erase the mic. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, goodbye mic. Anthony Rodriguez: All I need is no mic. Jeremy Coren: Let's see, Micheal Obeso: Oh, I Jeremy Coren: we Micheal Obeso: already erased Jeremy Coren: can Micheal Obeso: half of the line. Jeremy Coren: save this now. Anthony Rodriguez: Bon chance Jeremy Coren: And move back to here. Micheal Obeso: Too bad, oh. Micheal Obeso: Like this? Jeremy Coren: Mm-hmm. Micheal Obeso: Still looks nice. Jeremy Coren: And then all green. Okay, well thank you. Micheal Obeso: Oh, Frank Davis: Looks Micheal Obeso: that's Frank Davis: like a Micheal Obeso: erase. Frank Davis: iPod. Jeremy Coren: Oh, no. Anthony Rodriguez: No, Jeremy Coren: Hey, Anthony Rodriguez: add Jeremy Coren: but you can erase that. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, that's a bit Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: weird. Jeremy Coren: Uh-oh. Micheal Obeso: Oh, Anthony Rodriguez: S Micheal Obeso: now Anthony Rodriguez: Difference Micheal Obeso: I'm line. Anthony Rodriguez: between lines and text and the pen. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Oh. Jeremy Coren: Right. Frank Davis: All I need is mic. Jeremy Coren: And you can't erase this? Hmm, Micheal Obeso: No, Jeremy Coren: strange. Micheal Obeso: it's weird. Jeremy Coren: Okay, well uh just leave it at this and Frank Davis: Station Jeremy Coren: quickly save. Frank Davis: page. Jeremy Coren: Um Anthony Rodriguez: Huh, Jeremy Coren: and Anthony Rodriguez: looks Jeremy Coren: then Anthony Rodriguez: fucking Jeremy Coren: we Anthony Rodriguez: boring Jeremy Coren: are going Anthony Rodriguez: now. Jeremy Coren: to the project or product evaluation. We just did our project evaluation. Um well, I think I can sit for that since it's almost my final slide. Um what did you think about uh the process? How satisfied are we? Anthony Rodriguez: Deadlines were sometimes very short. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Mm-hmm. Micheal Obeso: Bu but stressful. Anthony Rodriguez: But Micheal Obeso: You think, Anthony Rodriguez: And Micheal Obeso: no, Anthony Rodriguez: stressful. Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: my presentation isn't ready. Frank Davis: I think we it should be b it would be better if we worked a little bit together. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Now Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: we worked through each other, Jeremy Coren: And you could Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: something Jeremy Coren: ask Micheal Obeso: you had information Frank Davis: he Jeremy Coren: things. Frank Davis: said Micheal Obeso: I didn't Frank Davis: yeah, Micheal Obeso: have and Frank Davis: and Micheal Obeso: then Frank Davis: you Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: had information I also had, Micheal Obeso: Oh Frank Davis: so Micheal Obeso: right. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: some some things I had Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: in my presentation, they already told, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: And for Frank Davis it sometimes was a surprise who was going to present what, huh? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: And Frank Davis: So Jeremy Coren: uh Frank Davis: yeah, that I don't think that is the best way to work Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: at Micheal Obeso: No. Frank Davis: for such Jeremy Coren: So you would Frank Davis: project. Jeremy Coren: say uh communicate during our individual Frank Davis: Yeah, Jeremy Coren: uh Frank Davis: no, or Jeremy Coren: work. Frank Davis: maybe session of five minutes together or something, and then work Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: separate. Anthony Rodriguez: but Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: but why not work here together, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: for Micheal Obeso: you Anthony Rodriguez: example? Micheal Obeso: could Anthony Rodriguez: Why should we be separated from each other Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: in those difference uh different Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: rooms? Jeremy Coren: Mm-hmm. Well, Micheal Obeso: I think Jeremy Coren: probably Micheal Obeso: so too. Jeremy Coren: to simulate the whole working uh Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but then you Jeremy Coren: process, Micheal Obeso: can work Jeremy Coren: huh, Micheal Obeso: together Jeremy Coren: th you Micheal Obeso: too when Jeremy Coren: can't have a meeting uh for Frank Davis: Yeah m yeah, Jeremy Coren: several Frank Davis: like she Jeremy Coren: weeks. Frank Davis: told. Then you can work together too by mail or by, I dunno, chat, something, Anthony Rodriguez: Huh, oh Frank Davis: but now Jeremy Coren: No. Anthony Rodriguez: right. Micheal Obeso: A chat Frank Davis: we're Micheal Obeso: would also Frank Davis: completely Micheal Obeso: be uh Frank Davis: separated from each other. I don't think that was the best way, but Anthony Rodriguez: But the technology was uh fantastic. Frank Davis: Yeah, the technology's Micheal Obeso: Well, Frank Davis: okay. Micheal Obeso: I I don't really like the board, it doesn't really work Anthony Rodriguez: Work Micheal Obeso: great. Frank Davis: Yeah Anthony Rodriguez: now? Frank Davis: okay, but I don Micheal Obeso: Sometimes Frank Davis: I do Micheal Obeso: I think. Frank Davis: I think becau that's Anthony Rodriguez: Perhaps Frank Davis: because Anthony Rodriguez: it is e Micheal Obeso: It does work, but sometimes it doesn't erase Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: or it doesn't Anthony Rodriguez: perhaps Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: it is easier to get one of those uh dig digital pens or so and Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: to uh and lay it next to that keyboard over Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: there. So you Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: can draw Frank Davis: like Anthony Rodriguez: uh Frank Davis: the Anthony Rodriguez: see Frank Davis: f Anthony Rodriguez: it Frank Davis: like Anthony Rodriguez: over Frank Davis: a Anthony Rodriguez: th on the screen. Frank Davis: plotters Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: or Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: something, yeah. Yep yep yep yep yep. Jeremy Coren: So Micheal Obeso: But Jeremy Coren: you don't think the SMARTboard is is really useful or Anthony Rodriguez: It's Micheal Obeso: Well Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: useful, Micheal Obeso: it is Frank Davis: it Micheal Obeso: useful, Frank Davis: is useful, Anthony Rodriguez: but not Micheal Obeso: but Frank Davis: but Anthony Rodriguez: m Micheal Obeso: it doesn't really work all the Frank Davis: No. Micheal Obeso: time. Anthony Rodriguez: Because Micheal Obeso: Th Anthony Rodriguez: when you Micheal Obeso: the Anthony Rodriguez: put this Micheal Obeso: pen Anthony Rodriguez: pen Micheal Obeso: doesn't Anthony Rodriguez: on the screen uh uh Micheal Obeso: The Anthony Rodriguez: for Micheal Obeso: line Anthony Rodriguez: exam Micheal Obeso: is Anthony Rodriguez: and Micheal Obeso: a bit off. Anthony Rodriguez: line is d being drawn at at two or three centimetres uh below. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, so it's maybe a bit unnatural Frank Davis: Yep. Anthony Rodriguez: Alright. Jeremy Coren: also. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, you can point to where you want the line to be. But Anthony Rodriguez: The project uh because of the deadlines you didn't had the time to uh have, you didn't have time to uh to make a very uh qualitati qualitative uh presentation. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: So you used uh this uh the different PowerPoint presentations uh in which you put your uh material in the Oh. Jeremy Coren: That wasn't Frank Davis. Uh Anthony Rodriguez: Wasn't Frank Davis. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: so um the means, we discussed the smart board, and what about uh this digital pen? Micheal Obeso: I Frank Davis: I didn't use it at all. Micheal Obeso: I I used it, it it was you can use it, it's quite handy Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: But Micheal Obeso: I Anthony Rodriguez: I Micheal Obeso: think. Anthony Rodriguez: didn't Jeremy Coren: well Anthony Rodriguez: I uh Jeremy Coren: I use it as a a normal pen and and and only you use it to uh Micheal Obeso: Yeah, I used it to Jeremy Coren: get Micheal Obeso: y Jeremy Coren: it Micheal Obeso: to Jeremy Coren: on the computer, huh? Micheal Obeso: Yeah, it did work Anthony Rodriguez: I Micheal Obeso: pretty Anthony Rodriguez: used Micheal Obeso: well. Anthony Rodriguez: it too, but oh well. Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: didn't Micheal Obeso: I don't think Frank Davis: use. Micheal Obeso: why you would want to use it Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, Frank Davis: No Anthony Rodriguez: because Micheal Obeso: actually, Frank Davis: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: it Micheal Obeso: but Anthony Rodriguez: shou Micheal Obeso: it it does work. Anthony Rodriguez: To Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: make some Frank Davis: It Anthony Rodriguez: designs, Frank Davis: is it Anthony Rodriguez: it Frank Davis: is Anthony Rodriguez: is Frank Davis: yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: very Frank Davis: it Anthony Rodriguez: easy. Frank Davis: is easy for to design something and Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: then load it in your computer. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, and then you can show it to everybody. Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: But to write it th yeah. Frank Davis: Yeah. It's Micheal Obeso: It doesn't Frank Davis: b Micheal Obeso: really Frank Davis: bi Micheal Obeso: write Frank Davis: little bit Micheal Obeso: normally. Frank Davis: too big to write. Micheal Obeso: It's a bit Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, it's too big, it's too fat. Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Frank Davis: Fat document, those. Jeremy Coren: Okay, um and what about the teamwork? Frank Davis: Team work was okay. Micheal Obeso: I think it was great, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: yeah. Jeremy Coren: well I think so too. Frank Davis: Only thing Jeremy Coren: we Frank Davis: that we worked through, past each other. Anthony Rodriguez: Right. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: With some things Jeremy Coren: but that Frank Davis: that Jeremy Coren: was Frank Davis: was only problem, Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Frank Davis: but Micheal Obeso: but it Jeremy Coren: it Micheal Obeso: was Jeremy Coren: was Micheal Obeso: because Jeremy Coren: our assignment, Micheal Obeso: we didn't uh Jeremy Coren: huh? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Yeah yeah yeah, but furthermore Jeremy Coren: Okay, and maybe I Frank Davis: better. Jeremy Coren: should walk out of the room when you discuss uh this point, the leadership. Frank Davis: That's Micheal Obeso: I thought it was good, but Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: yeah, Micheal Obeso: uh Yeah. Frank Davis: no prob. Ah. Jeremy Coren: Yeah well, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: okay. Anthony Rodriguez: Not too much, not too too too Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: too. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Okay. Jeremy Coren: And creativity? Well, when we look at this I'd say we have been creative, huh? But Micheal Obeso: Well. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, or the room for it Jeremy Coren: There Anthony Rodriguez: was Jeremy Coren: was Anthony Rodriguez: the idea Jeremy Coren: room Anthony Rodriguez: to Jeremy Coren: for Anthony Rodriguez: be creative, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: You got some standard ideas in your head Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Anthony Rodriguez: and this what came Micheal Obeso: And Anthony Rodriguez: out. Micheal Obeso: you get get stuff from the Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: from the computer, but Anthony Rodriguez: The information uh was sometimes uh a Frank Davis: Little bit uh Anthony Rodriguez: little Frank Davis: lo Anthony Rodriguez: bit too late Frank Davis: yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: or Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Too late it it it Micheal Obeso: You just Frank Davis: took Micheal Obeso: sit Frank Davis: a lot Micheal Obeso: there Frank Davis: of Micheal Obeso: for Frank Davis: time Micheal Obeso: ten Frank Davis: before Micheal Obeso: minutes. Frank Davis: you got your Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Davis: ema yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, where is that Frank Davis: I played Micheal Obeso: email? Frank Davis: I think seven times Solitaire something. Jeremy Coren: You did? Well, Micheal Obeso: Oh Jeremy Coren: I didn't have Micheal Obeso: did you? Jeremy Coren: time Micheal Obeso: Is Jeremy Coren: for Micheal Obeso: it Jeremy Coren: that. Micheal Obeso: on there? Frank Davis: Wha Micheal Obeso: Is it on there? I didn't find the Jeremy Coren: At Frank Davis: Oh Jeremy Coren: some Micheal Obeso: didn't Frank Davis: right, Jeremy Coren: times Frank Davis: it is Jeremy Coren: I Micheal Obeso: look Frank Davis: there. Micheal Obeso: but uh I Jeremy Coren: Sometimes Anthony Rodriguez: Was Jeremy Coren: I Anthony Rodriguez: searching Jeremy Coren: received Anthony Rodriguez: and searching. Jeremy Coren: like like five Micheal Obeso: didn't Jeremy Coren: emails Micheal Obeso: look, but Jeremy Coren: at at one moment, Frank Davis: No, Jeremy Coren: and then Frank Davis: I I never got that. Micheal Obeso: I Frank Davis: I Micheal Obeso: got like Frank Davis: always Micheal Obeso: one email after ten minutes or something. Frank Davis: N yeah. Jeremy Coren: I even got spam. Or something like that. Micheal Obeso: That's what we Frank Davis: So Micheal Obeso: said. Frank Davis: does this I think lik oh and information was a bit low I think, Micheal Obeso: And Frank Davis: sometimes, Micheal Obeso: it not a lot Frank Davis: in in Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: in in the beginning I didn't understand what what to do. Micheal Obeso: No, the Anthony Rodriguez: No, Micheal Obeso: first Anthony Rodriguez: w Micheal Obeso: one. Frank Davis: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: I Micheal Obeso: I Anthony Rodriguez: didn't Micheal Obeso: didn't Frank Davis: like Anthony Rodriguez: know Micheal Obeso: know Frank Davis: I Micheal Obeso: uh Frank Davis: with with the remote and I never new we have t we had Anthony Rodriguez: Make Frank Davis: to uh Anthony Rodriguez: a r yeah. Frank Davis: yeah made Micheal Obeso: nee. Frank Davis: a made a rec a remote control. Micheal Obeso: And I didn't know what to do for the first ten minutes before Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: we got here, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: so I Frank Davis: so Micheal Obeso: went, right. Anthony Rodriguez: No stepping on the table and then Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: looking at the internet Jeremy Coren: And I Micheal Obeso: Just Jeremy Coren: was Micheal Obeso: looking Anthony Rodriguez: page. Jeremy Coren: working Micheal Obeso: at the Jeremy Coren: and Micheal Obeso: screen Jeremy Coren: working Micheal Obeso: and Jeremy Coren: and work Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: No. Jeremy Coren: Okay, Frank Davis: So, yeah. Jeremy Coren: well um but after all we can say uh we are satisfied, but it it could've been uh better. Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: When we get uh when we have we would have gotten uh more information. Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, more Frank Davis: Faster. Anthony Rodriguez: information Micheal Obeso: an Anthony Rodriguez: about the costs. Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, that will be handy. Anthony Rodriguez: First of all I didn't think uh that we were able to make an L_C_D_ screen uh first point, but uh it Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: was possible uh Frank Davis: Yeah, it only Anthony Rodriguez: uh, Frank Davis: costs four units. Uh Anthony Rodriguez: yeah. Micheal Obeso: Yea Frank Davis: yeah. Micheal Obeso: uh Jeremy Coren: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: so tha actually you could make an L_C_D_ screen but no mic, or it could make mic but no L_C_D_ Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: screen, Jeremy Coren: that Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: was a bit Micheal Obeso: when you Jeremy Coren: mean Micheal Obeso: look at Jeremy Coren: to Micheal Obeso: that. Jeremy Coren: put Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: it in the end. And uh what were the other points to to improve this whole Micheal Obeso: Uh, Jeremy Coren: process? Frank Davis: Um Micheal Obeso: I dunno. Frank Davis: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Think that's about it. Frank Davis: Nothing. Micheal Obeso: Hmm. Frank Davis: I think we got it Micheal Obeso: Heavier Frank Davis: already. Micheal Obeso: um less heavy laptops. Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Jeremy Coren: they're Anthony Rodriguez: Faster Jeremy Coren: pretty heavy. Anthony Rodriguez: laptop. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. They Micheal Obeso: But Anthony Rodriguez: were Micheal Obeso: that's not Anthony Rodriguez: they Micheal Obeso: really Anthony Rodriguez: were just Frank Davis: And Micheal Obeso: uh Anthony Rodriguez: fine. Frank Davis: furthermore the the the network was okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Everything Anthony Rodriguez: Uh. Frank Davis: you loaded was also Micheal Obeso: Yeah, everything Frank Davis: av available Micheal Obeso: worked. Frank Davis: there. Anthony Rodriguez: Right. Jeremy Coren: And Frank Davis: So Jeremy Coren: so more time uh w might have improved the the quality of work, Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: is what Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: you say. Okay. Frank Davis: Yeah, but that It's now half past four half past three, so Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but it's just the the off hours between Frank Davis: Yeah, Micheal Obeso: that Frank Davis: okay. Micheal Obeso: you will work alone. Frank Davis: Yeah, okay. Micheal Obeso: Then it pops up pop up screen came. Frank Davis: Mm-hm. Micheal Obeso: Five Frank Davis: Mm. Micheal Obeso: minutes in the meeting. Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Mm. Micheal Obeso: No. Jeremy Coren: Okay, so more time during the individual work phases. Micheal Obeso: Huh. Jeremy Coren: Um okay well uh I just got my warning for the last five minutes, Micheal Obeso: You Jeremy Coren: so Micheal Obeso: did? Jeremy Coren: I'll Micheal Obeso: Well Jeremy Coren: move on to I guess my last slide, yes, which is the closing. Well uh, we managed, but we did it very quickly. I don't know if that's the best way to when it isn't is it when it is too expensive to quickly re-arrange it Micheal Obeso: Oh, Jeremy Coren: and say, okay, Micheal Obeso: right. Jeremy Coren: this is it, but we Micheal Obeso: Well Jeremy Coren: had to do it, huh, because we have to have a design, and that is within the budget. And we evaluated. Maybe we should re-evaluate uh the product, but we did that before, and we also evaluated the project. And I think uh everybody's uh very happy. At least I am, with the results, so Frank Davis: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: uh celebration, Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: well, for the three of you, Micheal Obeso: Champagne. Jeremy Coren: because uh I have to write the final report now. But uh well, thank you very much for Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: your co-operation, and I had Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah, sure. Jeremy Coren: a very Frank Davis: No prob. Jeremy Coren: nice day so far. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh thank Frank Davis: Mm-hmm. Anthony Rodriguez: you. Jeremy Coren: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Do we get another email? Anthony Rodriguez: Bling. Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: You're fired. Frank Davis: think Jeremy Coren: Um Frank Davis: you do. Micheal Obeso: I I think we have to fill in a questionnaire again, but Jeremy Coren: Yeah I have t I think we also have to go to our own rooms again, but Micheal Obeso: We do? Anthony Rodriguez: Mm. Jeremy Coren: um well I at least. But maybe you can try uh to make a screen shot of this, so I can try Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: to include it in the final report. Micheal Obeso: Uh th that that one? Anthony Rodriguez: You cannot you Jeremy Coren: Yeah, Anthony Rodriguez: can save Micheal Obeso: You Anthony Rodriguez: it. Micheal Obeso: can Jeremy Coren: maybe. Micheal Obeso: just Jeremy Coren: wants Micheal Obeso: Yeah, but it's Jeremy Coren: to, Micheal Obeso: it Jeremy Coren: but Micheal Obeso: isn't Jeremy Coren: at least Micheal Obeso: a picture Jeremy Coren: this one. Micheal Obeso: or, well, is Jeremy Coren: I Micheal Obeso: it? Jeremy Coren: know, Anthony Rodriguez: You s Jeremy Coren: we Anthony Rodriguez: uh Jeremy Coren: should remove Anthony Rodriguez: file Jeremy Coren: this, Anthony Rodriguez: save Jeremy Coren: but it won't Anthony Rodriguez: as the Jeremy Coren: h Anthony Rodriguez: J_ PEG Jeremy Coren: Okay. Anthony Rodriguez: J_ PEG. Jeremy Coren: And uh please put it in the project folder then, huh. Frank Davis: Can you find it as a J_ PEG? Anthony Rodriguez: No. Micheal Obeso: No, isn't possible. But you can make a screen shot, I think. Jeremy Coren: Okay, well I uh Frank Davis: No. Anthony Rodriguez: No. Jeremy Coren: I hereby officially close the meeting Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Jeremy Coren: and uh I hope to see you uh soon. Frank Davis: In Anthony Rodriguez: In Micheal Obeso: Uh Anthony Rodriguez: about five Micheal Obeso: oh, Anthony Rodriguez: minutes. Frank Davis: uh Micheal Obeso: export. Jeremy Coren: Well, I think we'll be a bit a Anthony Rodriguez: Ah. Jeremy Coren: bit longer, but okay. Well, happy celebration, huh? Anthony Rodriguez: Oh thank you. Micheal Obeso: Images. Anthony Rodriguez: Whoo-hoo. Let's Frank Davis: Celebra Anthony Rodriguez: let's have party. Frank Davis: Or Micheal Obeso: How big do you want Anthony Rodriguez: Let's Micheal Obeso: the images? Anthony Rodriguez: have some fun. Frank Davis: shouldn't I? Jeremy Coren: How big? Anthony Rodriguez: Huh? Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Jeremy Coren: Uh not too big. Micheal Obeso: This one? Frank Davis: Six Jeremy Coren: Whatever Frank Davis: hundred. Jeremy Coren: you think Frank Davis: No, Jeremy Coren: is good. Frank Davis: I yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: No that uh is one Frank Davis: I Anthony Rodriguez: thousand Frank Davis: think Anthony Rodriguez: twenty Frank Davis: eight hundred Anthony Rodriguez: four. Frank Davis: six hundred is better. Micheal Obeso: This one? Frank Davis: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. If it browse. Frank Davis: Nah, name. Micheal Obeso: Um Anthony Rodriguez: Desktop. Micheal Obeso: Well it isn't on the desktop. Frank Davis: Hey. Anthony Rodriguez: Mm? I do not know. Micheal Obeso: You can only save it in my documents. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh? Frank Davis: Oh my God. Anthony Rodriguez: Yeah. Micheal Obeso: Oh. Oh, alright. Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Yeah. Three. Can Frank Davis: Ten. Micheal Obeso: we stay here? Frank Davis: Yeah. Ten. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Frank Davis: Uh. Anthony Rodriguez: Okay. Micheal Obeso: Yeah, alright. Why can't we stay here? Anthony Rodriguez: Alright. Micheal Obeso: Yeah. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh. Frank Davis: Celebration time, come on. Anthony Rodriguez: Oh. Frank Davis: Peace out nigger. Entree	Jeremy Coren opened the meeting and then Micheal Obeso and industrial designer presented their prototype for the remote which featured an LCD screen, a scroll button, and a battery indicator. Frank Davis conducted a project evaluation of the prototype. The team found the remote to be fancy, innovative, fairly easy to use, available in different colors, fairly spongy, difficult to misplace, and targeted to younger people. Jeremy Coren then led the team in calculating the production costs of their remote. The team had difficulty in meeting the the target cost and had to eliminate some of the more expensive components they had hoped to include in their design. Jeremy Coren then led the team in an evaluation of the project process. The team found the project stressful, the equipment useful, the information available to them lacking, and their laptops to be slow and heavy.	3	amisum	train
Lloyd Hernandez: Hello. 'Kay. Fernando Gray: You Adrian Keen: It's Fernando Gray: all saw the newsflash? Or you got the same Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: message? Bruce Pelosi: I I just saw it one minute ago Adrian Keen: I don't Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: When. Adrian Keen: know. Bruce Pelosi: I Fernando Gray: sorry. Bruce Pelosi: uh Adrian Keen: I didn't it yet I think. Lloyd Hernandez: Newsflash? D Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: did I miss something? Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: I received Bruce Pelosi: pretty much. Fernando Gray: an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the Adrian Keen: Hey what's Fernando Gray: folder, Adrian Keen: wrong with my Fernando Gray: but Adrian Keen: computer? Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: Is it unlocked? Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Lloyd Hernandez: No. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah that's my presentation. Fernando Gray: Woah. I uh Adrian Keen: Huh? Lloyd Hernandez: Mm. Fernando Gray: kind of opened it. Bruce Pelosi: Mm? Adrian Keen: What the Bruce Pelosi: Oh Fernando Gray: Uh Bruce Pelosi: right. Lloyd Hernandez: I think you have to uh change Fernando Gray: Okay. Lloyd Hernandez: your desktop uh size. Bruce Pelosi: Ooh. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Everybody ready? Adrian Keen: Not Bruce Pelosi: Well Adrian Keen: really. Sorry. Fernando Gray: No Lloyd Hernandez: computer Fernando Gray: no Lloyd Hernandez: is Fernando Gray: no. Lloyd Hernandez: uh not functioning? Fernando Gray: Yes yes yes. Bruce Pelosi: Alright. Adrian Keen: Okay. Where Fernando Gray: Okay. Adrian Keen: do I find this? I'm not so g display huh? Lloyd Hernandez: Uh display. And then uh Adrian Keen: Appearance? Lloyd Hernandez: settings? Bruce Pelosi: Huh. Lloyd Hernandez: Mm I'm not sure Bruce Pelosi: You Lloyd Hernandez: I. Bruce Pelosi: read the newsflash? Lloyd Hernandez: No. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Adrian Keen: No what Bruce Pelosi: Hmm. Adrian Keen: was Fernando Gray: Can Adrian Keen: it Fernando Gray: we Adrian Keen: about? Fernando Gray: get started or is there some pressing Adrian Keen: Yeah my computer is Fernando Gray: issue? Adrian Keen: not functioning properly. Fernando Gray: Oh no pressing. Did you plug in the power cable when you come back? Adrian Keen: Yeah yeah. No but my screen is reduced in size. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: What? Fernando Gray: That's difficult. Yeah. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Feedback. Bruce Pelosi: Hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Adrian Keen: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: alt delete. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Format. Fernando Gray: Format save. Bruce Pelosi: So it doesn't draw the attention away. Adrian Keen: This is Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: dreadful. Lloyd Hernandez: I made uh uh my own map. Adrian Keen: No not Fernando Gray: Oh Adrian Keen: this, Fernando Gray: yeah Adrian Keen: but Lloyd Hernandez: It's Fernando Gray: sure. Lloyd Hernandez: a Adrian Keen: the task. Fernando Gray: You have Playstation also? Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: No. okay. No I just flapped it, closed it, took it here and then this happened. Adrian Keen: Ah. Uh where was it? In settings? Okay. Alright. Thank you. Fernando Gray: Huh. Adrian Keen: Do you guys like your tasks? Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Adrian Keen: and then Lloyd Hernandez: wa wa you actually Adrian Keen: a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: the information that I need. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: So Lloyd Hernandez: But Adrian Keen: frustrating. Lloyd Hernandez: it's not clear what you have to Adrian Keen: So Lloyd Hernandez: to to type Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: uh Bruce Pelosi: I I Lloyd Hernandez: type Bruce Pelosi: had Lloyd Hernandez: in your Bruce Pelosi: a whole Lloyd Hernandez: presentation. Bruce Pelosi: idea and then just Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: was typing it and oh. I to do that so Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: switch. Adrian Keen: exactly. This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Adrian Keen: so Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: Really annoying. Fernando Gray: Okay. So there we are again. Bruce Pelosi: By your humble P_M_. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Okay this is the agenda. Um we have three presentations, I heard. Lloyd Hernandez: Really. Fernando Gray: Yeah really. So who wants to start? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah that's fine. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: We have to start it right away? Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Functional? Fernando Gray: Uh this is you? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah functional requirements. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Bruce Pelosi: Alright. I'm gonna talk about functional requirements. Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done. Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control. Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire. The findings were um, well you can see them for yourself. They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls. Users think they're ugly. Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users. So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it. Um they are often lost somewhere in the room. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. And they're bad for R_S_I_. I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay. Um Adrian Keen: Ts Bruce Pelosi: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions. Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings, mono, stereo, uh pitch, bass. Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that. Um but they are used. I mean the Adrian Keen: So they do need to be in the Bruce Pelosi: Yeah they Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: do need to be on the on the remote control. I Adrian Keen: Alright. Bruce Pelosi: mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something, you you need to change that. So um Fernando Gray: often. Adrian Keen: By Bruce Pelosi: yeah Adrian Keen: the way my Bruce Pelosi: we have Adrian Keen: T_V_ Bruce Pelosi: to. We Adrian Keen: doesn't Bruce Pelosi: c we c Adrian Keen: have an equ equaliser Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Adrian Keen: but Bruce Pelosi: I mean w Adrian Keen: okay. Bruce Pelosi: we can't Fernando Gray: Next Bruce Pelosi: my my Fernando Gray: generation Bruce Pelosi: T_V_ has, Fernando Gray: does. Adrian Keen: No. Bruce Pelosi: but Adrian Keen: Alright. Bruce Pelosi: we we can leave them uh away. Uh most relevant, uh most used functions, uh they speak for themselves I guess. Uh power button, uh channel, volume selection. Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash, and teletext is so outdated that it it's i Fernando Gray: N not Bruce Pelosi: should Fernando Gray: used Bruce Pelosi: not Fernando Gray: anymore. Bruce Pelosi: be used uh any more in the future. So forget this one. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: Uh channel settings, so for programming uh your channels in in the Adrian Keen: By Bruce Pelosi: right Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: the Bruce Pelosi: order. Adrian Keen: way where did you guys get that newsflash Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: from? I Bruce Pelosi: Yeah, Adrian Keen: didn't Bruce Pelosi: on Adrian Keen: get Lloyd Hernandez: I Adrian Keen: anything. Lloyd Hernandez: was wondering Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: on Lloyd Hernandez: uh Bruce Pelosi: the project uh Fernando Gray: Not by mail. I receiv the mail but you don't. So Bruce Pelosi: No Lloyd Hernandez: But you Bruce Pelosi: so it's Lloyd Hernandez: you've Bruce Pelosi: a text Lloyd Hernandez: got more Bruce Pelosi: file Lloyd Hernandez: information Bruce Pelosi: n in the project Lloyd Hernandez: than Bruce Pelosi: folder. So teletext Lloyd Hernandez: uh. Bruce Pelosi: can be skipped. Fernando Gray: That's in the presentation, so Adrian Keen: Alright. Bruce Pelosi: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control. Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition. Well we got an update for the for the audience. Or the the the targeted group. So it's above forty I guess. Fernando Gray: Uh Bruce Pelosi: The Fernando Gray: below Bruce Pelosi: new product? Fernando Gray: I believe. Bruce Pelosi: Or below Fernando Gray: Yeah below forty. Bruce Pelosi: because that's pretty relevant. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: I thought I read Fernando Gray: Our Bruce Pelosi: a Fernando Gray: current customers are in the age group forty plus. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah? Fernando Gray: And the new product should reach new markets, which is Bruce Pelosi: Below? Fernando Gray: the customers below forty. Bruce Pelosi: Okay well Lloyd Hernandez: But where did you get Bruce Pelosi: that's Lloyd Hernandez: uh Fernando Gray: That's Lloyd Hernandez: that Fernando Gray: in Lloyd Hernandez: information? Fernando Gray: a newsflash. Bruce Pelosi: that's in the newsfla okay Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: that's a good to know. Um because you see see Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: a clear distinction between the age groups, concerning the features. I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition. Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are. So I think we can build that in. Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well, because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features, but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting. Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible. Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them, and stuff like that. So the physical uh aspect of it. Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups, uh nice design, which uh does not make the remote control in your room. It's it's Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: actually a part of your interior, of of your design in your room. So it's the people can say, well what's that, well that's my remote control, so it's d Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: it has to look nice and feel nice, and and have all the functions Fernando Gray: But Bruce Pelosi: that Fernando Gray: it also Bruce Pelosi: uh Fernando Gray: needs to have corporate identity. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah so the the logo has to be uh Fernando Gray: Present and the colours. Bruce Pelosi: present yeah, and the colours as well. Fernando Gray: So we can't change much of that. Adrian Keen: Do we have Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Adrian Keen: uh Bruce Pelosi: so Adrian Keen: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: has to have a colour anyway, Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: and Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: most of the times there is a brand present on it. So Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: I think that's not gonna Fernando Gray: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: gonna affect it very uh very much. Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part. Adrian Keen: Alright. Bruce Pelosi: Yes. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. It's open already so you can use to Lloyd Hernandez: Mm. Fernando Gray: find yours. Lloyd Hernandez: It's Fernando Gray: F_ five. Lloyd Hernandez: F_ five. Okay. Oh. Fernando Gray: Go Jurgen. Lloyd Hernandez: What is this? Oh no. How do I uh Fernando Gray: You pressed alt F_ four? Lloyd Hernandez: No no no. I pressed the mouse button. Fernando Gray: Oh great. Adrian Keen: It's th that's the self-destruct button. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Uh Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: maybe you can do it from your computer Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: so Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Um Fernando Gray: talk Bruce Pelosi: Just Fernando Gray: us through Lloyd Hernandez: if you Fernando Gray: it. Lloyd Hernandez: all go Bruce Pelosi: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: stand around Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: uh Computer Bruce Pelosi: Sure. Adrian Keen: Alright. Lloyd Hernandez: Um Fernando Gray: That's nice. Lloyd Hernandez: No. Fernando Gray: F_ five. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: Alright. Lloyd Hernandez: I uh had uh two examples. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: buttons. This Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: the easy one I think we have to to combine them. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: And Adrian Keen: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Um but yeah the the age is uh under Fernando Gray: The Lloyd Hernandez: forty? Fernando Gray: mm Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: and Lloyd Hernandez: So we Bruce Pelosi: and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Bruce Pelosi: of functions. Lloyd Hernandez: so so we have the option Bruce Pelosi: So not Lloyd Hernandez: for Bruce Pelosi: not Lloyd Hernandez: more Bruce Pelosi: too much Lloyd Hernandez: functions. Bruce Pelosi: but yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Um yeah. Adrian Keen: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech Bruce Pelosi: the speech recognition yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: alright. Lloyd Hernandez: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids. It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah from Lloyd Hernandez: But Bruce Pelosi: age of sixteen Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: so Lloyd Hernandez: but I Bruce Pelosi: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah. We have to to make them very easy so Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Lloyd Hernandez: for just Adrian Keen: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else, you should use use an uh an advanced option. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device, Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Bruce Pelosi: only Lloyd Hernandez: one Bruce Pelosi: your Lloyd Hernandez: device. Bruce Pelosi: television. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: So Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: n Lloyd Hernandez: I Fernando Gray: it's Lloyd Hernandez: didn't Bruce Pelosi: w Fernando Gray: very easy. Lloyd Hernandez: see. Fernando Gray: Now Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Fernando Gray: yeah Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: it's okay. Bruce Pelosi: there are not extra options in this case, Lloyd Hernandez: and Bruce Pelosi: but Fernando Gray: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: uh Lloyd Hernandez: I also uh yeah. W yeah. We have to make it fashionable. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Like Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: you uh said uh before. Uh yeah the basic functions. Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed. Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: so maybe you can hide them or something. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options, you can put that in the screen. Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: And the Fernando Gray: you make Bruce Pelosi: and Fernando Gray: a Bruce Pelosi: the Fernando Gray: screen menu or something. Bruce Pelosi: yeah screen Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: menu to to to uh Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: to do that, and then the basic function just on the device itself. So it Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen, Fernando Gray: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: uh Fernando Gray: and Bruce Pelosi: with Fernando Gray: the other Bruce Pelosi: a clear Fernando Gray: oth Bruce Pelosi: menu. Fernando Gray: other uh functionality is the screen. What does the screen do? Bruce Pelosi: Uh. Adrian Keen: Alright. Lloyd Hernandez: Did I Bruce Pelosi: What Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: are Lloyd Hernandez: uh Bruce Pelosi: wh Lloyd Hernandez: did I break Fernando Gray: It's Lloyd Hernandez: it? Fernando Gray: low power. Bruce Pelosi: What. Fernando Gray: So what does the screen do? They said they needed it but what does it do? What do they want with the screen? Lloyd Hernandez: For for the advanced functions I think. Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: that's what Bruce Pelosi: well Fernando Gray: we make Bruce Pelosi: it Fernando Gray: it up. Bruce Pelosi: yeah Fernando Gray: So Bruce Pelosi: it didn't Fernando Gray: but Bruce Pelosi: it Fernando Gray: what did Bruce Pelosi: didn't Fernando Gray: the marketing Bruce Pelosi: say what they want to do with Fernando Gray: No. Bruce Pelosi: the screen. Well I, my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: uh Fernando Gray: okay it's Bruce Pelosi: advanced Fernando Gray: handy. Bruce Pelosi: functions. Fernando Gray: With Lloyd Hernandez: Like searching Fernando Gray: no predefined Lloyd Hernandez: for channels and Fernando Gray: uh Bruce Pelosi: Yeah searching Adrian Keen: Ah look. Bruce Pelosi: for channels, programming Adrian Keen: We Bruce Pelosi: them. Adrian Keen: have Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: your uh oh never mind. Fernando Gray: We're back online. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so Fernando Gray: Okay. Lloyd Hernandez: Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable, it it the functional functionality will go down. So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: fashionable Fernando Gray: Content and form. Lloyd Hernandez: yeah Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: content and form. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Now that that was Fernando Gray: That was Lloyd Hernandez: uh Fernando Gray: the end. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: was the end. Adrian Keen: Okay. Lloyd Hernandez: Yes. Fernando Gray: Okay. Adrian Keen: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky. Bruce Pelosi: Well you can improvise Fernando Gray: Uh which one Bruce Pelosi: right? Fernando Gray: is it? Technical functions? Adrian Keen: Yeah a little bit. Uh Fernando Gray: This one? Adrian Keen: no. No no. Fernando Gray: Functional requirements? Adrian Keen: Yeah I think that would be it then. Fernando Gray: No. Bruce Pelosi: So we we Adrian Keen: I Bruce Pelosi: can Adrian Keen: have Fernando Gray: You Adrian Keen: no Bruce Pelosi: go Fernando Gray: didn't Adrian Keen: idea. Bruce Pelosi: for Fernando Gray: put it in? Or Adrian Keen: That w. Fernando Gray: it's Adrian Keen: Let Bruce Pelosi check. Fernando Gray: not really English. Adrian Keen: I know. Fernando Gray: Uh kick off. Oh working design I got it. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example, and then a screen on top of it. Fernando Gray: Here you go. Adrian Keen: Alright how do I uh skip pages? Fernando Gray: Just uh press uh yeah. Adrian Keen: The keys Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: yeah? Alright. Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information. So I was just working off the top of my head and Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls. And well the info on the website which Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: came too late. Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet. So Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting. Those were my uh starting Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: points. Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule, and I was supposed to do it like this. But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow, so I was Fernando Gray: Mm. Adrian Keen: trying to organise them for myself. And then make the Bruce Pelosi: Design? Adrian Keen: the Fernando Gray: Design Adrian Keen: design, Fernando Gray: yeah. Adrian Keen: a Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: the actual design, but I never came around to do that. So Bruce Pelosi: Okay. Adrian Keen: I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it. I mean everything speaks for itself I guess. Mean you press a button Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: um the it tru goes, it sends a signal to a chip, which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: frequency. Yeah. Adrian Keen: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually. And then uh through a uh transformer, it Fernando Gray: Yeah Adrian Keen: the Fernando Gray: decoder. Adrian Keen: signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function. Um Yeah well this was actually all I Fernando Gray: Blank. Adrian Keen: got around to do. Fernando Gray: Yeah Adrian Keen: I mean Fernando Gray: okay. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: I Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff, but uh Fernando Gray: Work harder. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay shou should Adrian Keen: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: we make a list Adrian Keen: Whatever. Lloyd Hernandez: of the of all the functions we want Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: uh Fernando Gray: Uh Bruce Pelosi: Yeah we want to incorporate in Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: uh into it. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext, only for T_V_. Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty, but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well. Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Fernando Gray: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control. And we have to decide on the functions, and on the, let's see what was it, uh the target group. We have to make be clear what that is. Bruce Pelosi: group of users, or Fernando Gray: Yeah users. Bruce Pelosi: because it says below forty I mean. Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: I guess Fernando Gray: so Bruce Pelosi: that's that's Fernando Gray: I think Bruce Pelosi: the tar Fernando Gray: it's easy but Lloyd Hernandez: But Bruce Pelosi: yeah Lloyd Hernandez: uh it's Bruce Pelosi: uh or male Lloyd Hernandez: it's also Bruce Pelosi: and female Lloyd Hernandez: for children or just Bruce Pelosi: Uh Lloyd Hernandez: uh Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: six Fernando Gray: it's below forty so we Bruce Pelosi: the Fernando Gray: can Bruce Pelosi: marketing Fernando Gray: decide Bruce Pelosi: research Fernando Gray: where Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: to Bruce Pelosi: started on s on the age of sixteen. Sixteen Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, Fernando Gray: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: thirty five to forty five, something like that. So Fernando Gray: So Bruce Pelosi: um Fernando Gray: below forty is okay. But we need an lower level which to s uh Bruce Pelosi: How Fernando Gray: focus. Bruce Pelosi: do you mean? Fernando Gray: So is it from sixteen to forty? Is it from twenty to forty? Is Bruce Pelosi: Uh Fernando Gray: it from Bruce Pelosi: sixteen Fernando Gray: thirty? Bruce Pelosi: to forty. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah? Bruce Pelosi: Well Lloyd Hernandez: We we Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Lloyd Hernandez: have to Bruce Pelosi: I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess. Lloyd Hernandez: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: to uh sell our product. Adrian Keen: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions, if you know what I mean. The Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions. But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well, so they need a simpler remote. Fernando Gray: Design. Adrian Keen: And Fernando Gray: Mm. Adrian Keen: yeah that you can choose what the design displays, or Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Adrian Keen: wha whatever. Lloyd Hernandez: that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions. The the simple functions for for the the whole public, Adrian Keen: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: more yeah Adrian Keen: Experienced Fernando Gray: And Lloyd Hernandez: experienced Bruce Pelosi: But Fernando Gray: maybe Adrian Keen: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: uh all Lloyd Hernandez: with Bruce Pelosi: incorporated Lloyd Hernandez: uh Fernando Gray: y Bruce Pelosi: in the screen or or just Lloyd Hernandez: Na Bruce Pelosi: on the remote itself? Lloyd Hernandez: I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: a kind Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: of sliding bar and Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals? Fernando Gray: So is you should have a menu for all the the functions Bruce Pelosi: Uh you can make Fernando Gray: you don't Bruce Pelosi: a Fernando Gray: use regular Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: and which Bruce Pelosi: if you Fernando Gray: are Bruce Pelosi: make a drawing. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Aye yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Uh Uh. Fernando Gray: Shall I uh Bruce Pelosi: Uh black's okay. And draw it very big. Oh. Fernando Gray: Yeah. It's okay. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: no, it doesn't have line control, so Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah we get the Bruce Pelosi: Yeah well, this is basically uh Adrian Keen: The remote? Bruce Pelosi: it's alright Fernando Gray: The remote, Bruce Pelosi: the remote? Fernando Gray: yeah? Bruce Pelosi: Um Fernando Gray: Basic. Bruce Pelosi: well usually the power button Fernando Gray: Is on Bruce Pelosi: is Fernando Gray: top. Bruce Pelosi: on top I Fernando Gray: Which Bruce Pelosi: guess. Fernando Gray: should be easy, easily reached with the thumb. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah so Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: it should fit right Lloyd Hernandez: L left Bruce Pelosi: in into Lloyd Hernandez: top Bruce Pelosi: your Lloyd Hernandez: or Bruce Pelosi: hand. Lloyd Hernandez: right uh top? Bruce Pelosi: Right. Fernando Gray: T I s should Adrian Keen: Right Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah, Bruce Pelosi: Right. Adrian Keen: top. Lloyd Hernandez: right. Fernando Gray: said Bruce Pelosi: I Fernando Gray: right. Bruce Pelosi: most people Fernando Gray: Because Bruce Pelosi: are right-handed so Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Adrian Keen: Yeah Fernando Gray: yeah. Adrian Keen: definitely. Bruce Pelosi: maybe left-handed special addition, but okay. If you put it like like here. Or something. I dunno. Um then you could put a screen, like on a mobile phone, also on top I guess. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions, the the basic functions, you normally Fernando Gray: Do Lloyd Hernandez: press Fernando Gray: the Lloyd Hernandez: them Fernando Gray: also Lloyd Hernandez: on the Fernando Gray: with the thumb. Lloyd Hernandez: u yeah. Fernando Gray: So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb, also reach the middle. Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly. Bruce Pelosi: Okay so y yeah you have you have it Fernando Gray: You Bruce Pelosi: in your hand, Fernando Gray: you need Bruce Pelosi: and the Fernando Gray: to Bruce Pelosi: screen is below, Fernando Gray: be able to hold it so Bruce Pelosi: and Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: the buttons are in the middle. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Okay for example if you put the screen here, it's more about the functions now than the Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: than the layout. Fernando Gray: okay that's true. Layout. That's Bruce Pelosi: Doesn't Fernando Gray: for the Bruce Pelosi: work too well. It's uh it's bent. Fernando Gray: I can't help it. Lloyd Hernandez: You broke it. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Man. Bruce Pelosi: Right. Fernando Gray: Yeah okay. Bruce Pelosi: Okay you get it. Uh for example if y if you put all the Right. Fernando Gray: You want the normal piece of paper? And you have a pen? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: And might be Bruce Pelosi: Maybe Adrian Keen: easier Bruce Pelosi: this. Adrian Keen: huh? Bruce Pelosi: kind of works. Fernando Gray: Yeah? Bruce Pelosi: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: the channels, um Fernando Gray: Uh. Bruce Pelosi: and here one for Fernando Gray: And the Bruce Pelosi: for Fernando Gray: for flipping up Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Fernando Gray: and down. Lloyd Hernandez: yeah. And volume control. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah that that usually uh Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: like Adrian Keen: I Bruce Pelosi: here, here, here, here. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: you have up and down for the for the channels, Fernando Gray: And left Bruce Pelosi: and left Fernando Gray: to right. Bruce Pelosi: and right for the volume Fernando Gray: And Bruce Pelosi: uh Fernando Gray: those can also be used for the menu. Adrian Keen: Yeah exactly. I thought Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: but this is really your department, Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: that we need just the functional display Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: and Fernando Gray: Yeah Adrian Keen: four Fernando Gray: okay Adrian Keen: cursors. Fernando Gray: but this is function Bruce Pelosi: And Fernando Gray: so Bruce Pelosi: you you have Fernando Gray: if Adrian Keen: And Fernando Gray: you can use them for multiple Bruce Pelosi: most Fernando Gray: things Bruce Pelosi: of the time you Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: have Adrian Keen: okay. Bruce Pelosi: one button in the middle. It Fernando Gray: For Bruce Pelosi: says Fernando Gray: the menu. Bruce Pelosi: menu, Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay, to to confirm a a kind Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: of action. So you scroll into it, okay. You select a function like v like uh bass. You just adjust it with these two buttons. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Then okay to confirm, and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level. And then Adrian Keen: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: finally say okay, exit. Or or one button to exit it. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Uh in one time I dunno, that's not really my department. That's more your uh your department to Lloyd Hernandez: And Bruce Pelosi: to Lloyd Hernandez: do Bruce Pelosi: uh Lloyd Hernandez: we need Bruce Pelosi: to Lloyd Hernandez: a a logo on our uh remote control, or Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like Lloyd Hernandez: On the left Bruce Pelosi: on Lloyd Hernandez: uh Bruce Pelosi: on top, Lloyd Hernandez: top Bruce Pelosi: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: I mean it's uh Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen. But Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: it's essential that there is a screen. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there. Fernando Gray: Yeah. And Bruce Pelosi: But um Fernando Gray: for the speech uh recognition part, if we want to incorporate that, we need a microphone. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here, should be on top somewhere, Fernando Gray: Yeah. This Bruce Pelosi: maybe. Fernando Gray: would be uh Adrian Keen: Why Bruce Pelosi: I Adrian Keen: did Bruce Pelosi: mean Adrian Keen: we Bruce Pelosi: i Adrian Keen: wanna put the display in the bottom? Fernando Gray: No that's not s sure so Bruce Pelosi: That's Adrian Keen: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: not sure but Fernando Gray: uh Bruce Pelosi: it's Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Fernando Gray: we need Lloyd Hernandez: may Fernando Gray: a Lloyd Hernandez: maybe Fernando Gray: display. Adrian Keen: Because Lloyd Hernandez: because Adrian Keen: yeah Lloyd Hernandez: you're Adrian Keen: if you use the functions your hand will block the display. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option, you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more Adrian Keen: Normal Bruce Pelosi: lo Adrian Keen: for logical Bruce Pelosi: logical to Bruce Pelosi. Also Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: t Bruce Pelosi: because people use m mobile phones and Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: they also Fernando Gray: they're Bruce Pelosi: have Fernando Gray: used Bruce Pelosi: the screen Fernando Gray: to it. Bruce Pelosi: on top. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay the yeah. Bruce Pelosi: So Lloyd Hernandez: That's possible. Bruce Pelosi: you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: I mean if you grab Adrian Keen: On Bruce Pelosi: it. Adrian Keen: once it's on it's on. Bruce Pelosi: But Adrian Keen: You don't need Bruce Pelosi: most Adrian Keen: the Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah, Adrian Keen: power Bruce Pelosi: most Adrian Keen: button. Lloyd Hernandez: okay. Bruce Pelosi: of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel Lloyd Hernandez: Okay we put it on top. Bruce Pelosi: to put it on. So we put this on top, Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: and then make the corporate logo like over here. R_R_. And j and the microphone, I mean it can be very small. If you look at your mobile phones Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: are some stripes, little little holes. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Adrian Keen: Maybe on the top or even on the side. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah maybe on the side. I mean Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: if the if Fernando Gray: but Bruce Pelosi: the Fernando Gray: then Bruce Pelosi: microphone Fernando Gray: it's possible Bruce Pelosi: is Fernando Gray: that Bruce Pelosi: good. Fernando Gray: you cover it with your hand so Adrian Keen: True. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: okay. So Fernando Gray: I think Bruce Pelosi: on Fernando Gray: that Bruce Pelosi: the on Fernando Gray: top Bruce Pelosi: the Fernando Gray: is Bruce Pelosi: top Fernando Gray: the best Bruce Pelosi: is Fernando Gray: option. Bruce Pelosi: better. Adrian Keen: But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this, if you put it on the top on the side I dunno. Fernando Gray: Yeah okay. Adrian Keen: Should be able to Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: work. Fernando Gray: Depends Adrian Keen: Never mind. Fernando Gray: on the sensitivity of the microphone, Adrian Keen: Can we Fernando Gray: but Adrian Keen: leave Fernando Gray: I Adrian Keen: this Fernando Gray: think Adrian Keen: up to Fernando Gray: that's Adrian Keen: you? Fernando Gray: okay. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah it doesn't matter that much. So but um the screen is on top? Which functions did we have left? I mean this is basically numbers, Fernando Gray: Volume. Bruce Pelosi: volume, uh channel Fernando Gray: Up. Bruce Pelosi: up and down. Fernando Gray: Channel up and down, Bruce Pelosi: Screen Fernando Gray: and the control Bruce Pelosi: is over Fernando Gray: of Bruce Pelosi: there. Fernando Gray: the advanced options. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: So Lloyd Hernandez: If Fernando Gray: maybe Lloyd Hernandez: we Fernando Gray: it, we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. That's uh that's a good one. Adrian Keen: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah Adrian Keen: Like Fernando Gray: so sounds? Adrian Keen: uh bass uh Bruce Pelosi: Sound? Adrian Keen: so we need kind of an equaliser. If Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: you Bruce Pelosi: Equaliser. So if you have sound But not too advanced. I mean most T_V_s use only treble Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah it Fernando Gray: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: it's Bruce Pelosi: and Fernando Gray: and Lloyd Hernandez: just Bruce Pelosi: bass. Fernando Gray: they're Lloyd Hernandez: a remote control Adrian Keen: Yeah treble, Lloyd Hernandez: so Fernando Gray: They're Adrian Keen: middl Fernando Gray: not used Adrian Keen: middle, Fernando Gray: often Adrian Keen: bass or something. Fernando Gray: so Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. It's uh pretty hard to write. Adrian Keen: Ah as. Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: Okay Fernando Gray: just Bruce Pelosi: but you have sound? Fernando Gray: Yeah sounds. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah just Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah. Fernando Gray: Of course. Bruce Pelosi: So you have sound. Fernando Gray: I'm just a secretary. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Coffee? Bruce Pelosi: Uh Adrian Keen: Yes Bruce Pelosi: yeah sound Adrian Keen: please. Bruce Pelosi: and then within sound I guess treble and bass? Fernando Gray: Treble bass. Adrian Keen: the mono stereo option? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Uh Bruce Pelosi: Also. Adrian Keen: And then Fernando Gray: Pitch I believe, Adrian Keen: pitch. Fernando Gray: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Pitch. Yeah. But pitch, isn't that yeah that's the the height Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: The fr Bruce Pelosi: of the Adrian Keen: yeah Bruce Pelosi: tone. Adrian Keen: the frequency of the tones, yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah okay, Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: wh why Fernando Gray: and Bruce Pelosi: would you Fernando Gray: mono Bruce Pelosi: use that? Fernando Gray: stereo. Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: If Adrian Keen: isn't Bruce Pelosi: people Adrian Keen: that Bruce Pelosi: like Adrian Keen: that Bruce Pelosi: talk Adrian Keen: depends Bruce Pelosi: like uh Adrian Keen: on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching. Fernando Gray: Mm. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: And also the tuning part? Bruce Pelosi: Programming part. Fernando Gray: Yeah programming. Bruce Pelosi: Uh Fernando Gray: So channel programming? Bruce Pelosi: so we have sound, yeah? Channel programming. Adrian Keen: And yeah in the functionality of the Lloyd Hernandez: Television uh Adrian Keen: no no Lloyd Hernandez: itself Adrian Keen: of the Lloyd Hernandez: uh Adrian Keen: remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them? As a confirmation Lloyd Hernandez: Mm. Adrian Keen: or whatever Bruce Pelosi: Mm. Adrian Keen: you know? I dunno. Fernando Gray: Mm. Bruce Pelosi: I think it g it gets annoying. I mean Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: most mobile Lloyd Hernandez: We Bruce Pelosi: phones Lloyd Hernandez: we could make Bruce Pelosi: used Lloyd Hernandez: an option Bruce Pelosi: that in the Lloyd Hernandez: for Bruce Pelosi: beginning Lloyd Hernandez: it, but Bruce Pelosi: but Lloyd Hernandez: uh you can disable Adrian Keen: Under Lloyd Hernandez: s Adrian Keen: the a yeah advanced option Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: menu you can put those things. Lloyd Hernandez: But Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera. So Fernando Gray: Contrast yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television Fernando Gray: Mm. Bruce Pelosi: with Fernando Gray: No. Bruce Pelosi: only three buttons Fernando Gray: Uh, Bruce Pelosi: then it's very hard to Fernando Gray: so contrast, Bruce Pelosi: y Adrian Keen: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: yeah contrast and brightness? Fernando Gray: bright, Bruce Pelosi: Yeah those are the most Fernando Gray: uh Bruce Pelosi: used I guess. If Fernando Gray: And Bruce Pelosi: you look Fernando Gray: the others Bruce Pelosi: at your Fernando Gray: were Bruce Pelosi: monitor. Fernando Gray: in your presentation right? So I can Bruce Pelosi: Well Fernando Gray: just copy those? Bruce Pelosi: yeah well I guess that these were the only ones, I guess. Fernando Gray: Okay. It's easy. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: But so Bruce Pelosi: I Adrian Keen: we have Bruce Pelosi: will look Adrian Keen: we Bruce Pelosi: it up. Adrian Keen: have T_V_ options, which is all this. Fernando Gray: Yeah the Adrian Keen: The Fernando Gray: button Adrian Keen: sound, Fernando Gray: options and Adrian Keen: sound Fernando Gray: the Adrian Keen: and Fernando Gray: L_C_D_ Adrian Keen: image. Fernando Gray: options. Adrian Keen: And you have in that uh the Fernando Gray: Indeed. Adrian Keen: indeed the remote control options. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: So we need two menus kind of thing. Fernando Gray: Yeah you have basically a button menu, which you can use directly, uh Adrian Keen: Uh-huh. Fernando Gray: according to the old principle. And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options, thats communicates with the infrared Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: uh Bruce Pelosi: with the chip Fernando Gray: decoder Bruce Pelosi: and Fernando Gray: yeah. Bruce Pelosi: then I mean Fernando Gray: So you Bruce Pelosi: Uh Fernando Gray: You have an additional processor and Bruce Pelosi: yeah. Fernando Gray: and Bruce Pelosi: Well Fernando Gray: software part. Bruce Pelosi: yeah we have Adrian Keen: Alright. Fernando Gray: Compared Bruce Pelosi: power button, Fernando Gray: to o Bruce Pelosi: whether that's present. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: Channel volume selection present. Uh numbers present. Yeah a audio Fernando Gray: L_ Bruce Pelosi: settings, Fernando Gray: s Bruce Pelosi: mono, stereo, pitch, bass, Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: treble. Screen settings, brightness and colour. Fernando Gray: Colour. Yeah I Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: I call Bruce Pelosi: con Fernando Gray: it Bruce Pelosi: contrast Fernando Gray: contrast. Bruce Pelosi: is Fernando Gray: Yeah I make it c colour. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah okay, colour and brightness. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Um and what you say, channel settings or channel programming? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies, Fernando Gray: Yeah and automatically Bruce Pelosi: and when it encounters Fernando Gray: um Bruce Pelosi: one, well it shows on your T_V_. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: remote Fernando Gray: so Bruce Pelosi: on Fernando Gray: I've Bruce Pelosi: which Fernando Gray: g Bruce Pelosi: you want Fernando Gray: channel Bruce Pelosi: to save Fernando Gray: program Bruce Pelosi: it. Fernando Gray: is autoseek? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah, autoseek. Fernando Gray: Uh name a channel, or Bruce Pelosi: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name, which they get through the cable. Fernando Gray: Oh they get automatic names, Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: okay. Bruce Pelosi: So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_, Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote. Fernando Gray: Yeah but Adrian Keen: Help. Fernando Gray: can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or Bruce Pelosi: If you already programmed it. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: If you want to move it. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah that should be possible too. Fernando Gray: How do you call that? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah how do you call that? Mm? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something, which w displays all the all Fernando Gray: Channels? Bruce Pelosi: the values, all the channels Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: which are possible. I mean like one to Fernando Gray: Ninety Bruce Pelosi: f thirty Fernando Gray: nine or something. Bruce Pelosi: of or ninety Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: or whatever. Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if Fernando Gray: S Bruce Pelosi: it is programmed. Fernando Gray: swap channels? Can Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: I call it that? Bruce Pelosi: Swap channels. Fernando Gray: Swap's good option. Okay. Uh Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: other Bruce Pelosi: you Fernando Gray: functions? Bruce Pelosi: most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five. And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five, um most of the times you override the previous uh the Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: previous one. Fernando Gray: Okay. Well that's 's up to uh Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Mister User Interface Bruce Pelosi: It's Fernando Gray: Designer. Bruce Pelosi: it's pretty Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu Adrian Keen: working Bruce Pelosi: on Adrian Keen: design. Bruce Pelosi: the T_V_. Adrian Keen: Doch. Fernando Gray: Also. That's Adrian Keen: He only Fernando Gray: you're Adrian Keen: has to figure out how it has to look. And how Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah but also, Adrian Keen: to use Fernando Gray: which buttons you have to press to get a certain result? And Adrian Keen: Yeah okay. But Fernando Gray: the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was, as I believe. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: You did your homework. But um yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Or or is Adrian Keen: Okay. Bruce Pelosi: it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote? To programme the channels? Adrian Keen: No Fernando Gray: No Adrian Keen: no. Fernando Gray: I Lloyd Hernandez: No Adrian Keen: It should Fernando Gray: don't Bruce Pelosi: Uh. Lloyd Hernandez: that's Adrian Keen: be Fernando Gray: think Adrian Keen: able Fernando Gray: so. Adrian Keen: to do Fernando Gray: But Adrian Keen: any remote. Fernando Gray: I think the communication with the television is difficult. But that's Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: not our part. Bruce Pelosi: No. Fernando Gray: We don't have to design a protocol so Adrian Keen: No. Bruce Pelosi: That's true. That's true. Adrian Keen: Thank god. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Bruce Pelosi: So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily. I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem. I mean Fernando Gray: No Bruce Pelosi: you uh you Fernando Gray: that's Bruce Pelosi: uh current Fernando Gray: the Bruce Pelosi: channel and then then it just says, uh on which number do you want to save this, and you just press a number on your remote, and then say confirm, okay, and then it's it's saved. It's easier, it's it's it's harder to, if you have already programmed it, Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: to to swap. So Fernando Gray: So Bruce Pelosi: we have Fernando Gray: but Bruce Pelosi: to think of something for Fernando Gray: Um Bruce Pelosi: that. Fernando Gray: Lloyd Hernandez can design a menu for all these function Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Fernando Gray: I put them on Bruce Pelosi: k Fernando Gray: the. Lloyd Hernandez: On Bruce Pelosi: kind Lloyd Hernandez: the Bruce Pelosi: of structure Lloyd Hernandez: uh Bruce Pelosi: into Lloyd Hernandez: yeah can Bruce Pelosi: layers. Lloyd Hernandez: you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents Fernando Gray: Yeah. Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: and Fernando Gray: I can. I'll just try to reorganise uh things. Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen? Uh um Bruce Pelosi: And and Fernando Gray: I think Bruce Pelosi: the layout of of the thing Fernando Gray: th Lloyd Hernandez: The Bruce Pelosi: itself. Lloyd Hernandez: the layout Fernando Gray: I think Lloyd Hernandez: of Fernando Gray: the Lloyd Hernandez: the Fernando Gray: yeah Lloyd Hernandez: remote Fernando Gray: the layout Lloyd Hernandez: control? Fernando Gray: of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the. Lloyd Hernandez: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface Fernando Gray: No I d Lloyd Hernandez: part? Fernando Gray: I think that's more in. Adrian Keen: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the Bruce Pelosi: Maybe Adrian Keen: remote Bruce Pelosi: more on Adrian Keen: I think are in my department. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: I have to know what it has to do, so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is, I Fernando Gray: Okay. Adrian Keen: have to integrate Fernando Gray: So Adrian Keen: that Fernando Gray: he's Adrian Keen: in the Fernando Gray: layout Adrian Keen: design. Fernando Gray: and you're function. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Form function okay. Adrian Keen: I think Bruce Pelosi: Okay. Adrian Keen: that's a that's a good Lloyd Hernandez: But Adrian Keen: separation. Lloyd Hernandez: do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also? Or Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: Mm. Lloyd Hernandez: Are Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: you going to do that? Bruce Pelosi: Yeah I guess Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah? Bruce Pelosi: so. Lloyd Hernandez: I Fernando Gray: I Lloyd Hernandez: I'm Fernando Gray: think Lloyd Hernandez: going Fernando Gray: i that's Lloyd Hernandez: to make Fernando Gray: your department Lloyd Hernandez: yeah Fernando Gray: yes, Lloyd Hernandez: o okay. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: because Adrian Keen: Yeah Fernando Gray: w he Adrian Keen: we have Fernando Gray: already Adrian Keen: to Fernando Gray: knows Adrian Keen: kind Fernando Gray: what Adrian Keen: of work together. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: If Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: if I make the the Fernando Gray: But we're not allowed. Adrian Keen: the yeah the menu like, I have to state which function has to be in the menu, and then you have to decide, it's, Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: in a in a way that b is user-friendly. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Y. you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: the the screen, the Adrian Keen: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: menu screen. And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: with Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: I think yeah. Bruce Pelosi: With with Lloyd Hernandez: with pages Bruce Pelosi: some l Lloyd Hernandez: and Bruce Pelosi: with some layers in it. So Lloyd Hernandez: yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah and also Bruce Pelosi: some menus. Fernando Gray: make clear which buttons to press to get certain result, Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: because that's always the difficulty. Every device has its own Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Well I guess this this button, the the the okay, Fernando Gray: Menu okay. Bruce Pelosi: menu Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: okay. Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons. Uh like uh for your mobile phone. Um so this is only for to get in the menu, or to exit it. Fernando Gray: Mm. Bruce Pelosi: And then one to confirm, and one to go one step Fernando Gray: Back. Bruce Pelosi: back. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone, if you have a Nokia or like that. Or the or the no button. Adrian Keen: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons, Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. W Bruce Pelosi: but if Lloyd Hernandez: we Bruce Pelosi: it if it's very clear that they are for the screen Lloyd Hernandez: Uh I think we have to to group, to make two groups. Um the one group for the for the display, and one group for the basic functions, and Adrian Keen: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Yeah but they're incorporated? Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah okay Bruce Pelosi: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: but Fernando Gray: Up Bruce Pelosi: because Lloyd Hernandez: we Fernando Gray: and down Lloyd Hernandez: we Bruce Pelosi: this Lloyd Hernandez: have Fernando Gray: is Lloyd Hernandez: a Bruce Pelosi: this Lloyd Hernandez: m Bruce Pelosi: is used for both. Lloyd Hernandez: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if Fernando Gray: Smart? Lloyd Hernandez: you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control, you can press the the menu button, and then you are suddenly into the the Bruce Pelosi: Into Lloyd Hernandez: yeah the Bruce Pelosi: your Lloyd Hernandez: display. Bruce Pelosi: screen. Okay. So you l should Adrian Keen: You wanna Bruce Pelosi: leave Adrian Keen: separate Bruce Pelosi: the menu Adrian Keen: uh. Bruce Pelosi: button out of here. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: And and just Fernando Gray: Put Bruce Pelosi: put Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Fernando Gray: it Bruce Pelosi: it Fernando Gray: on Bruce Pelosi: under Lloyd Hernandez: j Fernando Gray: top. Bruce Pelosi: the screen, Lloyd Hernandez: just Bruce Pelosi: the screen Lloyd Hernandez: just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions. Fernando Gray: Mm-hmm. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: So we make a yeah a line between them. Bruce Pelosi: But we should place the screen on top, right? Fernando Gray: Well Lloyd Hernandez: F oh yeah. Okay yeah we swap uh Fernando Gray: But Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: that's Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: uh J Jurgen's department. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: So we Bruce Pelosi: You Lloyd Hernandez: make Bruce Pelosi: just Lloyd Hernandez: it a Bruce Pelosi: you just find out Fernando Gray: You just make the layout. Bruce Pelosi: and. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: You do we do the extra two buttons or not? Lloyd Hernandez: Uh Adrian Keen: I think you should. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: It's easier. If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing. Fernando Gray: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: okay. That's true. Lloyd Hernandez: So we have a a menu button and a s Fernando Gray: And to, okay and back, Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: also. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Okay and back Bruce Pelosi: Yeah, Lloyd Hernandez: button. Bruce Pelosi: or confirm Fernando Gray: And Bruce Pelosi: and Fernando Gray: of Bruce Pelosi: back. Fernando Gray: course the four Bruce Pelosi: Whatever. Fernando Gray: arrows. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: No. Fernando Gray: But those are still y doubly used. Bruce Pelosi: Should Fernando Gray: Both Bruce Pelosi: we save Fernando Gray: the L_C_D_ Bruce Pelosi: this picture, or or you know Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: what it looks Lloyd Hernandez: I'm I'm Bruce Pelosi: like? Lloyd Hernandez: not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons. We have a menu button Fernando Gray: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: and Bruce Pelosi: That that just to Lloyd Hernandez: That's Bruce Pelosi: to activate Lloyd Hernandez: the the one Bruce Pelosi: the screen. Lloyd Hernandez: with the yeah okay. Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen. Bruce Pelosi: And then with these buttons, Fernando Gray: You can navigate. Bruce Pelosi: woa, y you navigate. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: But you can also navigate the channels. And Lloyd Hernandez: Okay Fernando Gray: the volume. Lloyd Hernandez: so that that's not uh Yeah Fernando Gray: Those Lloyd Hernandez: that Fernando Gray: are Lloyd Hernandez: Those are Fernando Gray: both both Lloyd Hernandez: multifunctional. Adrian Keen: Hey Fernando Gray: yeah. Adrian Keen: is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: used for the menu are ligh Bruce Pelosi: L Adrian Keen: li Bruce Pelosi: l Adrian Keen: light Bruce Pelosi: litten Adrian Keen: up. Bruce Pelosi: up yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: That's very Fernando Gray: Oh Bruce Pelosi: good idea. Fernando Gray: five minutes. Adrian Keen: N Bruce Pelosi: Alright. Yeah that's Fernando Gray: Light Bruce Pelosi: a good idea Fernando Gray: uh Bruce Pelosi: because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now, which you can use. Adrian Keen: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button. Fernando Gray: Yeah Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: sure. Okay. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Um Bruce Pelosi: So Fernando Gray: Anything else? Bruce Pelosi: Those buttons are are Adrian Keen: I think Bruce Pelosi: lit Adrian Keen: not. Bruce Pelosi: up. But just one thing. Should we use those two? Them? Or only this to to scroll? And Fernando Gray: I've Bruce Pelosi: then use the two functional buttons to confirm, to go into something? Oh no we have to use this to adjust Fernando Gray: Volume. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: some Adrian Keen: keep Bruce Pelosi: some Adrian Keen: it Bruce Pelosi: bars? Adrian Keen: optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: in a in one menu. Bruce Pelosi: And maybe we should use this also as an okay button, still. And then just only a back button. Fernando Gray: Well we Lloyd Hernandez: No Adrian Keen: The Fernando Gray: have Adrian Keen: pr Fernando Gray: those buttons. We Adrian Keen: the Fernando Gray: use Adrian Keen: problem Fernando Gray: all four. Adrian Keen: with the okay button in the middle is, sorry Fernando Gray: Yeah okay Bruce Pelosi: Yeah? Fernando Gray: go ahead. Adrian Keen: sorry, uh is uh if you're pressing up and down, you can easily press the okay once you, when Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Adrian Keen: you're not already at your Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Adrian Keen: choice. Lloyd Hernandez: So maybe make one uh one okay button Bruce Pelosi: And Lloyd Hernandez: and Bruce Pelosi: one Fernando Gray: Yeah Bruce Pelosi: back. Lloyd Hernandez: and Fernando Gray: that was Lloyd Hernandez: one Fernando Gray: already Lloyd Hernandez: navigation Fernando Gray: decided. Lloyd Hernandez: button. Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button. Fernando Gray: Okay that's what we decided Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah Fernando Gray: earlier Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: on. Lloyd Hernandez: okay. Fernando Gray: Right okay. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: So Adrian Keen: You wanna close down Fernando Gray: yeah I wanna close Adrian Keen: huh? Fernando Gray: down. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: I have to, sorry. Adrian Keen: That's Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: it's Adrian Keen: okay. Fernando Gray: not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break, Adrian Keen: Already. Fernando Gray: and then we can work for thirty minutes, and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Fernando Gray: And then uh we'll see Adrian Keen: Alright. How m how long is the lunchbreak? Fernando Gray: I don't know. Bruce Pelosi: We have to Fernando Gray: Nobody Bruce Pelosi: ask. Fernando Gray: told Bruce Pelosi. Adrian Keen: Okay. Lloyd Hernandez: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now? Or first lunchbreak? Fernando Gray: No I Lloyd Hernandez: Because Fernando Gray: th Lloyd Hernandez: I Fernando Gray: believe there's first lunch break. Lloyd Hernandez: I've everything in my head now so Fernando Gray: Yeah. Or you Adrian Keen: Mm. Fernando Gray: can just Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: Yeah? Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Bruce Pelosi: Yes. Lloyd Hernandez: 'Kay. Fernando Gray: I think Adrian Keen: This is Fernando Gray: you can put uh the laptop back in the room and Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Bruce Pelosi: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: Yes sir. Bruce Pelosi: Time pressure. Fernando Gray: 'Kay. Yeah it's a lot of pressure. Adrian Keen: Yeah. Sorry for my uh Fernando Gray: That's Adrian Keen: not Fernando Gray: okay. Adrian Keen: finished presentation uh. Fernando Gray: Oh Lloyd Hernandez: Oh Fernando Gray: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: no Bruce Pelosi: Yeah we'll kick your ass later. No. Lloyd Hernandez: no. Adrian Keen: Bring it on. Bruce Pelosi: Uh. Fernando Gray: I Bruce Pelosi: Aye Fernando Gray: don't know if it works but it Bruce Pelosi: Y Fernando Gray: should Bruce Pelosi: you Fernando Gray: be Bruce Pelosi: saved Fernando Gray: saved. Bruce Pelosi: it? Does it save automatically in the project folder? Or Fernando Gray: Yeah. It's uh Bruce Pelosi: Okay. We'll see. Just Fernando Gray: Should Bruce Pelosi: put back Fernando Gray: be Bruce Pelosi: my Fernando Gray: here. Bruce Pelosi: laptop. Fernando Gray: Smart board. Bruce Pelosi: Alright. Fernando Gray: Don't know if Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: you can use it but Bruce Pelosi: Yeah you can open it with the picture Lloyd Hernandez: And Bruce Pelosi: preview Lloyd Hernandez: uh we Bruce Pelosi: or Lloyd Hernandez: have Bruce Pelosi: stuff Lloyd Hernandez: to make Bruce Pelosi: like that. Lloyd Hernandez: uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh Fernando Gray: Yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: gathered. Fernando Gray: I try to organise it by these three. Yeah yeah Lloyd Hernandez: It's it's just my own map so Fernando Gray: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: I put everything into the Fernando Gray: I don't really mind. I just put the minutes here and we'll see. Lloyd Hernandez: But you got some extra information uh Fernando Gray: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder. Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Fernando Gray: Yeah. Yeah that's just basically what I just showed. Lloyd Hernandez: But where do you did you get the newsflash? Fernando Gray: Yeah. Yeah I got it by Lloyd Hernandez: You're the only one Fernando Gray: yeah. Lloyd Hernandez: uh okay. Fernando Gray: I'm Bruce Pelosi: internet. Fernando Gray: gonna get kicked if I don't do it so Lloyd Hernandez: Okay. Adrian Keen: Alright. Bruce Pelosi: Alright. Lloyd Hernandez: Yeah. Fernando Gray: Make Bruce Pelosi proud. Adrian Keen: I'll try to. So first we have a lunchbreak now? Fernando Gray: Yeah. Adrian Keen: Alright. Fernando Gray: I believe so. just ask. Adrian Keen: Mm-hmm. I dunno where she.	Bruce Pelosi reported on research which shows that users think most remotes are ugly, easily lost and bad for RSI. Audio settings are rarely used, and the power, channel and volume buttons are used most often. The remote should be user-friendly and have a good look and feel. Bruce Pelosi and project manager described the new requirements that the target group is users under 40, the remote should not include teletext, should be only for TV, and should feature the corporate logo. Lloyd Hernandez showed examples of two contrasting remotes, recommending that they should use the best features of both. The group decided to use an LCD screen and speech recognition. Adrian Keen described how a remote works, and explained that his presentation was incomplete because he had not received the necessary information in time. The group discussed what functions to include and the layout of the remote, and Bruce Pelosi drew a possible design on the board. They decided to have buttons for the basic functions and make the advanced functions accessible through the screen. They also discussed what buttons would be needed to navigate the menu on the LCD screen.	3	amisum	train
Evan Hoffman: Hello. Yes, I made it. English from on. Drawing or Frankie Johnson: Yeah just testing. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Mm? Marvin Marie: Just Frankie Johnson: English. Marvin Marie: kidding. So annoying. Frankie Johnson: Break is over. Evan Hoffman: Ooh it works. Frankie Johnson: Whoo. Spicy. Evan Hoffman: Spicy. Where are are all the other presentations? Marvin Marie: I just put it in the in the shared folder so Evan Hoffman: The Marvin Marie: it should Evan Hoffman: conceptual Marvin Marie: be Evan Hoffman: or Marvin Marie: yeah I think so. Yeah, conceptual design. Evan Hoffman: Ah. Marvin Marie: What or whatever Evan Hoffman: Because Marvin Marie: does it Evan Hoffman: I see only my own presentation Marvin Marie: No no no, can you go back one? Evan Hoffman: yeah. Marvin Marie: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah Evan Hoffman: This? Marvin Marie: components design, that's it. Evan Hoffman: I'll just put it Frankie Johnson: So, Evan Hoffman: in there. Frankie Johnson: he's coming. Marvin Marie: I did Evan Hoffman: Or not. Marvin Marie: get a bit more done than the Steven Zink: Okay. Marvin Marie: last time, Frankie Johnson: Oh Marvin Marie: 'cause Frankie Johnson: okay. Marvin Marie: I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into Evan Hoffman: Ah, Marvin Marie: the Evan Hoffman: I can't Frankie Johnson: Ah. Evan Hoffman: cut and paste it into Frankie Johnson: She. Evan Hoffman: the Frankie Johnson: You Evan Hoffman: other Frankie Johnson: can Evan Hoffman: folder Frankie Johnson: look Evan Hoffman: but Frankie Johnson: at the final report, 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such, so Evan Hoffman: Move to Frankie Johnson: I'm Evan Hoffman: meeting Frankie Johnson: trying Evan Hoffman: room. Frankie Johnson: to write it down between everything else. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there, Frankie Johnson: Oh. Marvin Marie: and Evan Hoffman: Yeah Evan Hoffman too, Marvin Marie: also with I don't know how to use PowerPoint, so it takes Evan Hoffman forever to get something done with Steven Zink: I Marvin Marie: it. Steven Zink: I've got the same problem as well. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Here we go again. Welcome. Marvin Marie: Thi Frankie Johnson: we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the phone has to f the remote control has to support. So Marvin Marie: Mm-hmm. Frankie Johnson: who wants go. Evan Hoffman: Yes. Marvin Marie: Who Frankie Johnson: Yes? Marvin Marie: wants to start? Evan Hoffman: Evan Hoffman first or Frankie Johnson: Yeah Steven Zink: Oh. Frankie Johnson: sure. Steven Zink: No. Frankie Johnson: Doesn't matter. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: yeah. Steven Zink: No problem Evan Hoffman: Alright. Did you open it already or Frankie Johnson: No. Evan Hoffman: no. Ah. Ah. Yes. Evan Hoffman: So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching. Uh well there has been inv investigation again, in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public, because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing, uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments? Uh development one. Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um Marvin Marie: Sound. Evan Hoffman: and speech recognition, so Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: I Marvin Marie: yeah Evan Hoffman: don't Marvin Marie: uh uh. Evan Hoffman: expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect. So Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Evan Hoffman: um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention. Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation, we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use, I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part. That this Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left. Marvin Marie: And shall I go first? Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: So Steven Zink: No. I Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: I don't mi I don't mind. That's Evan Hoffman: So kind of this Marvin Marie: Yeah? Steven Zink: Do you want to go first? Okay. Frankie Johnson: Yeah yeah sure. Evan Hoffman: So Frankie Johnson: No. Evan Hoffman: a k Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: a small example. Kind of this this look. Uh nothing about the buttons but just Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: sponge kind of thing, and and some fruit and colours I dunno. Just made a quick design. Frankie Johnson: Cool. Steven Zink: It's better Evan Hoffman: Alright. Steven Zink: than than Marvin Marie: Alright. Steven Zink: my uh drawing. Frankie Johnson: Yeah you're just the user interface hmm? Steven Zink: Yeah Marvin Marie: Uh Steven Zink: okay but I Marvin Marie: components. Steven Zink: have to design the Frankie Johnson: Yeah layout. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Oh no. Frankie Johnson: Yeah okay. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. It's okay. Frankie Johnson: You probably opened it. Marvin Marie: Yeah true. Um Frankie Johnson: F_ five. Evan Hoffman: F_ five. Marvin Marie: Alright. So I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to, wanted to go first. Well they gave Evan Hoffman um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group, but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you, the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh, which looks like fruits you know, you can and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um factors involved in choosing the components. There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo, which we yeah we Dutch refer Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: to it as the kneipgatt. Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing, if you shake it. Which will be fun for toddlers right, if they wanna Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: use the And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the Evan Hoffman: Wi Marvin Marie: design of the actual product. So Evan Hoffman: an indoors. Marvin Marie: uh Evan Hoffman: Oh. Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: my Frankie Johnson: okay. Marvin Marie: yeah Frankie Johnson: Calculator's Marvin Marie: also Frankie Johnson: can do it. Marvin Marie: also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia, they wouldn't be y able to use it half Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: of the year you know. So Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: that's Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: not cool either. So um for the uh a case, there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case. Single curved, which means that it has uh curves in one dimension. Or the double curved. Um I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet, but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Uh the case materials. Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic, the wood and the titanium. I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Um poo, this is a lot of text. I wasn't able to organise this yet. We have yeah several uh interface designs. Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus, but we already kind of decided to go for Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: the Steven Zink: Pushbuttons. Marvin Marie: f for the pushbuttons, Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: for the the arrow buttons. So that's Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: not really interesting. Electronics? Yeah, maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production, 'cause they they can print it better. Um Yeah. I think this is about it. Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences. I first uh chose for the battery, 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious, easiest choice to go to. But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy, where Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: you have to move the thing to Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: be able to Steven Zink: As Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: use Steven Zink: an optional Marvin Marie: it. Steven Zink: uh feature. Or combine uh both with with one uh Evan Hoffman: I Frankie Johnson: Uh Evan Hoffman: guess Frankie Johnson: I Evan Hoffman: we Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: can Frankie Johnson: think Evan Hoffman: only Marvin Marie: maybe Frankie Johnson: you Evan Hoffman: choose Marvin Marie: we Frankie Johnson: can only Evan Hoffman: one. Frankie Johnson: fit one uh source of energy Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: on the Marvin Marie: I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make. But it is more longlasting, that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: And it's more fun. Frankie Johnson: I Marvin Marie: And Frankie Johnson: didn't Marvin Marie: it's also Frankie Johnson: receive Marvin Marie: more fun Frankie Johnson: any Marvin Marie: yeah. Frankie Johnson: info Marvin Marie: I always chuck Frankie Johnson: uh. Marvin Marie: my uh remote control Evan Hoffman: Yeah, Marvin Marie: around, so Evan Hoffman: just Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: playing with it and especially when the material's rubber. It can Frankie Johnson: S Evan Hoffman: be done, I mean, Frankie Johnson: yeah it's Evan Hoffman: you can't Frankie Johnson: safe. Evan Hoffman: harm Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: it, Marvin Marie: y Evan Hoffman: so it's a Steven Zink: And Evan Hoffman: perfect Steven Zink: throw Marvin Marie: exactly. Steven Zink: it. Evan Hoffman: combination Marvin Marie: You Evan Hoffman: I Marvin Marie: don't Evan Hoffman: guess. Marvin Marie: have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: Okay. Marvin Marie: So that's the end of it. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: So Marvin Marie: Uh Frankie Johnson: 'Kay next. Marvin Marie: go ahead. Evan Hoffman: So double curved is like this, this, this, or Marvin Marie: No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved? Uh let's say would be a b square box, Evan Hoffman: Mm. Marvin Marie: but then with curves on one dimension. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: And double curved would means that it would have curves Evan Hoffman: Also in Marvin Marie: curves Evan Hoffman: in Frankie Johnson: Uh Evan Hoffman: height? Marvin Marie: in every direction. Evan Hoffman: Yeah Marvin Marie: Like Evan Hoffman: okay. Marvin Marie: three Frankie Johnson: Okay. Marvin Marie: D_. Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Can we uh Steven Zink: One Marvin Marie: Yeah. Steven Zink: one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: Yeah. So um Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the Marvin Marie: Design? Frankie Johnson: Well Steven Zink: remote control. Frankie Johnson: the visual representation is not Steven Zink: No okay Frankie Johnson: there with Steven Zink: but Frankie Johnson: speech Steven Zink: it Frankie Johnson: but Steven Zink: has Frankie Johnson: you Steven Zink: to be Frankie Johnson: can Steven Zink: combined with with the menu uh for functions and Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: So Frankie Johnson: Just Steven Zink: okay. Frankie Johnson: yeah. I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: that are already present. Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: So Evan Hoffman: Yeah with Frankie Johnson: I don't Evan Hoffman: the programme. Frankie Johnson: think you have to design anything Steven Zink: But do uh j do Frankie Johnson: else Steven Zink: we Frankie Johnson: for that. Steven Zink: uh do the speech just for the basic options, for the simple buttons? Frankie Johnson: Both. Steven Zink: For for everything, also for Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: the advanced options? Okay. Uh we have this very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh yeah um Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah Evan Hoffman: And Steven Zink: the options. Evan Hoffman: and the and the buttons that you need to Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: control Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: it, I guess. Steven Zink: Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your yeah. you have to uh delete this but this Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: is the the the simple uh layout. Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button. Frankie Johnson: That Steven Zink: I'm Frankie Johnson: would be the back. Steven Zink: The Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: back. Frankie Johnson: Back and okay. Evan Hoffman: Back Steven Zink: Back Evan Hoffman: and okay. Steven Zink: and okay yeah. Uh Frankie Johnson: You did read the minutes I wrote? Steven Zink: What? Frankie Johnson: You did read the minutes I wrote? Steven Zink: A little Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: bit I think but not not Frankie Johnson: Oh okay Steven Zink: everything w Frankie Johnson: 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: were. So Steven Zink: Oh I uh didn't read that. Frankie Johnson: I hate Steven Zink: But Frankie Johnson: doing work for nothing. Steven Zink: But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons. Um I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah, sound, everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light. So Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Steven Zink: you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous so that's an a also an option. Um that was it. Frankie Johnson: That was it? Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Okay. Uh again. Ugh. Frankie Johnson: Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use? Uh energy source, chip type, case type. And user interface. But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay. So we only, we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy. Evan Hoffman: No. Frankie Johnson: Uh the case would be doubly curved. Evan Hoffman: Rubber Frankie Johnson: So Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: material. Marvin Marie: rubber. Rubber material. Frankie Johnson: Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left. Marvin Marie: Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh Frankie Johnson: Oh okay. Marvin Marie: and f Frankie Johnson: No it's easy. Marvin Marie: audio function. Evan Hoffman: So that's uh is that is that the advanced chip? Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Advanced Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: chip. Evan Hoffman: Wow. Frankie Johnson: Okay. Marvin Marie: you would have a simple chip, just for pressing Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: buttons. But we need more. Evan Hoffman: Alright. Kinetic. Marvin Marie: I'm just thinking, Frankie Johnson: Too. Evan Hoffman: Double Marvin Marie: this Evan Hoffman: curved. Marvin Marie: is not my department, but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost, to be able to Frankie Johnson: Uh Marvin Marie: m Frankie Johnson: I didn't get any info on this. So Marvin Marie: So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: That's gonna be difficult huh? Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: The cost of making it should be twelve and a half? Frankie Johnson: I have total Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: here. Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: yeah Frankie Johnson: I Marvin Marie: yeah. Frankie Johnson: don't know. I didn't get any information about that Steven Zink: We're Frankie Johnson: so Steven Zink: going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Child labour man, we love it. Evan Hoffman: Yeah, so it's Frankie Johnson: Who doesn't. Evan Hoffman: cheap. Frankie Johnson: Uh let's see. Is there a new thing? Evan Hoffman: Um well the interface type supplements. Frankie Johnson: Yeah the interface, maybe can Steven Zink: Uh it's it's quite Frankie Johnson: Ooh. Steven Zink: difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh Frankie Johnson: No. Uh Steven Zink: yeah. Frankie Johnson: do you have a picture of doubly curved case? And could you put that in the group folder? Marvin Marie: Um Frankie Johnson: Of the project folder. Marvin Marie: let Evan Hoffman see. Wait a sec. Evan Hoffman: If you go to your homepage or something, you should Marvin Marie: Yeah I'm going there now. Evan Hoffman: get your own information. Marvin Marie: Inspiration. Evan Hoffman: I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh Marvin Marie: Well Evan Hoffman: over there, Frankie Johnson: Ah Evan Hoffman: so Frankie Johnson: you didn't draw it yourself. Evan Hoffman: No. Frankie Johnson: Ah. Evan Hoffman: Too less time. Marvin Marie: Um Evan Hoffman: Yeah, Marvin Marie: yeah maybe Evan Hoffman: also the Marvin Marie: it's Evan Hoffman: menu. Yeah Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: that that Steven Zink: This Evan Hoffman: w Steven Zink: is the the menu I was Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: uh looking uh Evan Hoffman: Yeah I Marvin Marie: Maybe Evan Hoffman: was thinking Marvin Marie: it's easier Evan Hoffman: of that Steven Zink: at. Evan Hoffman: also, with with a Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: with a Frankie Johnson: Arrow. Evan Hoffman: uh arrow. Steven Zink: Arrow yeah. Evan Hoffman: So Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: that indicates that there's an menu under that menu. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Yeah perfect. Evan Hoffman: So Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Maybe Frankie Johnson: 'S Marvin Marie: it's easier Frankie Johnson: the target Marvin Marie: if you guys Frankie Johnson: group. Marvin Marie: come Steven Zink: S Marvin Marie: over Steven Zink: yeah. Marvin Marie: here. S Evan Hoffman: Oh Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: yeah. Marvin Marie: see Frankie Johnson: sure. Marvin Marie: this is the the the standard traditional type, where the form uh yeah serves the function, you know. It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: want that. This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions. Frankie Johnson: Oh okay. Marvin Marie: Not only Frankie Johnson: I Marvin Marie: like Frankie Johnson: see. Marvin Marie: this but Frankie Johnson: Yeah also like Marvin Marie: it has Frankie Johnson: this. Marvin Marie: to Frankie Johnson: So Marvin Marie: be Frankie Johnson: you can hold it. Marvin Marie: exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation, the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube, you know, where Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to Steven Zink: But Marvin Marie: be Steven Zink: it Marvin Marie: nice Steven Zink: has also Marvin Marie: to hold. Steven Zink: to it Marvin Marie: And Steven Zink: it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people. Th Marvin Marie: It ha Steven Zink: this looks a little bit like like for Frankie Johnson: The Steven Zink: only Frankie Johnson: children's Steven Zink: for children. Frankie Johnson: story. Yeah I've Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: got Marvin Marie: but Frankie Johnson: it. Marvin Marie: that's Steven Zink: So Marvin Marie: that's the Frankie Johnson: Distinction. Marvin Marie: the problem Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: uh yeah the dilemma actually, 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours, and with a lot of shape. And Yeah, Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: and the and Steven Zink: The Marvin Marie: the rubber, Steven Zink: colour Marvin Marie: it it will look cheap always, Steven Zink: Yeah. Okay Marvin Marie: you know, Steven Zink: but Marvin Marie: with the Steven Zink: the the colours, you you can make it uh make the colours with LEDs uh beneath the the buttons. If you Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Steven Zink: press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it. Evan Hoffman: Mm. Marvin Marie: There is mobile phones, in which you can change the colour also of the Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: lights. Maybe we should consider this function. Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: To customise it and so I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: and people who want something, you know, Frankie Johnson: Different. Marvin Marie: different, or more uh design, Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: they can go for one colour like uh for example this uh photo Frankie Johnson: Camera. Marvin Marie: th camera. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Cool. S underwater Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: uh Frankie Johnson: submarine. Evan Hoffman: yeah. Marvin Marie: Personally I think it's really ugly. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Just Frankie Johnson: Well Marvin Marie: give Evan Hoffman the thing that it's inside there Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: maybe Steven Zink: Very Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: I'm Steven Zink: cheap Frankie Johnson: but Marvin Marie: too old Frankie Johnson: this Steven Zink: uh Marvin Marie: for Steven Zink: cheap Marvin Marie: this Frankie Johnson: this Marvin Marie: stuff. Steven Zink: look. Frankie Johnson: the is for the. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Okay. Marvin Marie: So Frankie Johnson: Uh Marvin Marie: those I think are all my oh. Frankie Johnson: Ah yeah bright colours. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Also a Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: kind Marvin Marie: this Evan Hoffman: of Marvin Marie: is, Evan Hoffman: rubber uh Marvin Marie: this is with the curved that I mean. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: That's singly curved. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Okay. Marvin Marie: Yeah? Evan Hoffman: That should be nice. Frankie Johnson: Well we could make a compromise between that. But I don't know if it's worth the effort. Marvin Marie: A compromise between what? Frankie Johnson: Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved. So to Evan Hoffman: So Frankie Johnson: appeal Evan Hoffman: s Frankie Johnson: a Marvin Marie: This, Frankie Johnson: little more to the Marvin Marie: this Frankie Johnson: all Marvin Marie: would Frankie Johnson: the public. Marvin Marie: be uh single curved uh? Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Evan Hoffman: Yeah there's only in in this dimension. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Like this. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: So curvy or not. Frankie Johnson: Also. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah Marvin Marie: Exactly. Exactly. Evan Hoffman: so we keep it singly c single curved then? Frankie Johnson: Yeah that would be an option. I don't know what you think. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: I think the I mean our aim is to make something different right? To Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: make something new. Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: I would go for the double curved. Frankie Johnson: Okay. Marvin Marie: And Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: I I'm Frankie Johnson: I'd agree. Marvin Marie: I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette, Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: where you have the shape for your thumb. So it kind of holds nicely, something Steven Zink: Yeah Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: like that. Steven Zink: but if Marvin Marie: Well Steven Zink: you Marvin Marie: this Steven Zink: if Marvin Marie: is Steven Zink: you make Marvin Marie: really Steven Zink: it Marvin Marie: your Steven Zink: more Marvin Marie: decision Steven Zink: curved Marvin Marie: but Steven Zink: we we can make more and more options for buttons. If you have uh it have it in your hand, you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons. Marvin Marie: Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: or something like that. Steven Zink: Something to shoot at your television Marvin Marie: Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: something, Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: that you scroll with your thumb, with the arrows, Steven Zink: That's Marvin Marie: and then confirm. Steven Zink: yeah. Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: That would be a nice way to use it but I mean, yeah, I'm thinking big already, and we need something Frankie Johnson: Different. Marvin Marie: that well that Frankie Johnson: Stands Marvin Marie: that you Frankie Johnson: out. Marvin Marie: can able to use in Frankie Johnson: Or Marvin Marie: one hand I think. Frankie Johnson: Oh yeah a one hand uh Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: solution. Evan Hoffman: So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape. Maybe because Frankie Johnson: can Evan Hoffman: the Frankie Johnson: turn it Evan Hoffman: the screen Frankie Johnson: maybe. Evan Hoffman: is on top you Frankie Johnson: To switch Evan Hoffman: can have Frankie Johnson: from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little. Evan Hoffman: Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more Frankie Johnson: Oh yeah. Least you Evan Hoffman: towards Frankie Johnson: can easily Evan Hoffman: yourself, Frankie Johnson: see it. Evan Hoffman: so you can easily see your screen. Marvin Marie: How Evan Hoffman: Well well Marvin Marie: about Evan Hoffman: you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen. So this this Marvin Marie: Mm-hmm. Evan Hoffman: is so the screen is positioned over here. Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more, well it's very thick now but Marvin Marie: Yeah I understand what you mean. Evan Hoffman: That's uh Marvin Marie: How Evan Hoffman: that's Marvin Marie: about we do a uh a pop-up screen, like the laptop. Frankie Johnson: If Marvin Marie: So Frankie Johnson: you can Marvin Marie: that Frankie Johnson: uh flip. Marvin Marie: the only the simple functions will be visible at first. Evan Hoffman: Yeah? That Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: that Marvin Marie: then Evan Hoffman: you can Marvin Marie: if Evan Hoffman: press Marvin Marie: you want Evan Hoffman: it and then it comes up? Or Marvin Marie: Yeah. Something like that. Frankie Johnson: Uh so you have a the the side view. Evan Hoffman: But then the side view can be straight. If you have a pop-up screen. But I dunno if that's too expensive. Frankie Johnson: So Evan Hoffman: I Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: and Evan Hoffman: mean Frankie Johnson: you Evan Hoffman: maybe Frankie Johnson: want Evan Hoffman: it's Frankie Johnson: to Evan Hoffman: too much Frankie Johnson: be able to make this. Marvin Marie: No uh like I would draw it like this. Let's say this is the side view. That you have a a screen that will come up here, and can go down that way. If you know what I mean. Steven Zink: Okay. Marvin Marie: So that it would come Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: up like that. Frankie Johnson: Okay so the buttons are on top here, and you flip it over that Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: way. Marvin Marie: or preferably even keep the simple buttons here, Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: and then under the screen even you Evan Hoffman: Oh Frankie Johnson: Oh Marvin Marie: could put Evan Hoffman: the advanced Marvin Marie: more Frankie Johnson: yeah. Yeah Marvin Marie: more Evan Hoffman: buttons. Frankie Johnson: yeah Marvin Marie: advanced Frankie Johnson: yeah Marvin Marie: buttons. Evan Hoffman: Right. Frankie Johnson: yeah. Right. Steven Zink: That's Frankie Johnson: Yeah that's good Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: idea. Steven Zink: the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: But Marvin Marie: F Steven Zink: you Marvin Marie: for Steven Zink: you Marvin Marie: the Steven Zink: want Marvin Marie: L_C_D_ menu Steven Zink: okay. Marvin Marie: right? Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: You just Marvin Marie: So Steven Zink: want to hide them all? The Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: No not all Marvin Marie: w Steven Zink: oh. Frankie Johnson: because Marvin Marie: w Frankie Johnson: you need most of them, the arrow buttons. But you can hide the okay and the back Steven Zink: Yeah Frankie Johnson: uh Steven Zink: yeah Frankie Johnson: button. Steven Zink: yeah. Frankie Johnson: And the menu button also because when you flip it open Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate Marvin Marie: Oh Frankie Johnson: amauto uh uh automatically. Marvin Marie: Activate and th the yeah. Evan Hoffman: So okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this Frankie Johnson: Why? You Evan Hoffman: open. Frankie Johnson: could Marvin Marie: True. Frankie Johnson: just Marvin Marie: True. Frankie Johnson: make it mechanical. Marvin Marie: But you can make a, yeah, you can make a trigger here. You Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: know a simple uh Evan Hoffman: Yeah and Marvin Marie: with Evan Hoffman: it Marvin Marie: a Evan Hoffman: says menu and it flips open and Steven Zink: That's Evan Hoffman: then you have the buttons to control Steven Zink: but it's it's Evan Hoffman: it, in combination Steven Zink: not Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: with your Steven Zink: it's not very uh Marvin Marie: Exactly. Steven Zink: very strong uh yeah if you drop it one time. Evan Hoffman: True. It uh c it can Marvin Marie: Well Evan Hoffman: go open. Marvin Marie: yeah the the idea Frankie Johnson: If you Marvin Marie: of Frankie Johnson: cover Marvin Marie: it was, Frankie Johnson: it with rubber. Marvin Marie: is that because you close it, you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever. Evan Hoffman: An adv Steven Zink: Okay. Evan Hoffman: an Frankie Johnson: Mm. Evan Hoffman: adv and it will be Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something Marvin Marie: Exactly. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: like that. Frankie Johnson: So Marvin Marie: Exactly. Frankie Johnson: it can bounce. Marvin Marie: We just have to Evan Hoffman: Yeah, Marvin Marie: make sure that the closing Evan Hoffman: uh Marvin Marie: mechanism Evan Hoffman: It's Marvin Marie: won't Evan Hoffman: very Marvin Marie: break. Evan Hoffman: no it's Marvin Marie: Th Evan Hoffman: very Marvin Marie: it's Evan Hoffman: strong. Marvin Marie: very solid Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: yeah. Frankie Johnson: okay so that that may work. Marvin Marie: That actually will offer some extra Frankie Johnson: Okay Marvin Marie: protection Frankie Johnson: but then we still Marvin Marie: for Frankie Johnson: have Marvin Marie: the Frankie Johnson: the the the thing of the the the shape. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: What Marvin Marie: I was Frankie Johnson: kind of Marvin Marie: thinking, if if you have your hand, it this is your th Frankie Johnson: Harder. Evan Hoffman: Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess, so maybe you should try it over there. Marvin Marie: Okay. If this is your thumb, and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist. That you, that it would be kind of shape like this, you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand, to Steven Zink: But Marvin Marie: y Steven Zink: when Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: you are Marvin Marie: f Steven Zink: left-handed, that's that's a problem. Marvin Marie: Uh yeah. Yeah of course. Yeah Frankie Johnson: Maybe Marvin Marie: then w Frankie Johnson: can design Marvin Marie: then you would Frankie Johnson: two versions. Marvin Marie: have to Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: But that's Marvin Marie: to make Steven Zink: that's Marvin Marie: it like Steven Zink: very expensive Marvin Marie: this. Like Steven Zink: uh Marvin Marie: like you drew here. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre. Give it Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. And Marvin Marie: I would Frankie Johnson: ergonomical Marvin Marie: give it a female Frankie Johnson: shape. Marvin Marie: shape but uh Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: yeah. Anyway. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: The female shape yeah. With two Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Obviously. Steven Zink: We we could make some some Marvin Marie: Make Steven Zink: rubber Marvin Marie: it more appealing Steven Zink: uh Frankie Johnson: uh Marvin Marie: to Steven Zink: some Marvin Marie: guys. Steven Zink: rubber uh yeah Marvin Marie: I mean Steven Zink: mouse, with which you can change Frankie Johnson: Oh Steven Zink: uh Frankie Johnson: yeah. Some Steven Zink: and Frankie Johnson: uh Steven Zink: so if you Frankie Johnson: k esk uh yeah. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess. I Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: mean, we have to Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: make Marvin Marie: but we have hardware inside, which is so it has to have some sort of Steven Zink: Some Marvin Marie: basic shape. Steven Zink: yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: we we better Frankie Johnson: yeah. Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: so Marvin Marie: also Evan Hoffman: choose Marvin Marie: the screen, Evan Hoffman: one Marvin Marie: you cannot mould it. You Steven Zink: No Marvin Marie: know Steven Zink: no no Marvin Marie: kind Evan Hoffman: Yeah Steven Zink: no. Marvin Marie: of thing. Evan Hoffman: so okay we should better choose one sh one shape. Steven Zink: Okay. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: But that's the kind of the idea, so it lays good in the hand, and then Marvin Marie: And then Evan Hoffman: on Marvin Marie: you can Evan Hoffman: on the side with with your Marvin Marie: You Evan Hoffman: thumb, Marvin Marie: can place the screen Evan Hoffman: you Marvin Marie: here, Evan Hoffman: you can Marvin Marie: which can Evan Hoffman: you can Marvin Marie: come. Evan Hoffman: use, yeah, you Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: can use the button option Marvin Marie: And but then I w I Frankie Johnson: spongey? Marvin Marie: would Evan Hoffman: Spongey. Marvin Marie: I would do the arrows here, kind of thing. Evan Hoffman: Spongey can be reached Marvin Marie: Those buttons? Evan Hoffman: by means of Marvin Marie: And the simple buttons here, so Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: that Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: And and the and the control thngs in the middle? The the Marvin Marie: I Uh Evan Hoffman: the Marvin Marie: y Evan Hoffman: arrows? Marvin Marie: eah Steven Zink: No Marvin Marie: that's Steven Zink: the Marvin Marie: what Steven Zink: arrow's Marvin Marie: I mean. The Steven Zink: over Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: arrows Steven Zink: here. Marvin Marie: over here, Evan Hoffman: Yeah Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: and Evan Hoffman: and then Marvin Marie: here the Evan Hoffman: numbers. Frankie Johnson: Buttons. Marvin Marie: s simple uh Frankie Johnson: Okay. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Alright. Frankie Johnson: I think that uh Evan Hoffman: Uh Frankie Johnson: it's a nice design. Evan Hoffman: pretty nice design. Yeah. Frankie Johnson: It's cool. Evan Hoffman: Yeah it looks uh pretty fancy. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something? I dunno. Frankie Johnson: Yeah that's Evan Hoffman: Uh bananas wierd shape and other fruits also, so Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours. Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: I Marvin Marie: we Evan Hoffman: don't Marvin Marie: could Evan Hoffman: know Marvin Marie: make Evan Hoffman: what what colours should the basic print be like? Like some soft Frankie Johnson: Orange or Evan Hoffman: green Frankie Johnson: something. Evan Hoffman: or something? Or Steven Zink: Or blue? Evan Hoffman: and then Steven Zink: Dark blue or Evan Hoffman: Oh yeah yeah, dark blue and then Marvin Marie: We should use Evan Hoffman: and then very bright, uh a yellow Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: banana, an orange, uh a green apple, stuff like that, with very uh bright tones I guess. Frankie Johnson: Mm. Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: So Marvin Marie: w Evan Hoffman: you have Marvin Marie: we Evan Hoffman: something Marvin Marie: need very Evan Hoffman: like Marvin Marie: primary colours, like Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: bright red, bright yellow. Steven Zink: Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote Marvin Marie: Yeah. Steven Zink: control. Marvin Marie: Yeah okay Steven Zink: If Marvin Marie: yeah. Steven Zink: you we uh yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour, then it's just a neutral colour, also for the for the more uh yeah for the people. Evan Hoffman: Mm. That Frankie Johnson: Huh Evan Hoffman: doesn't Frankie Johnson: cool. Evan Hoffman: really work. To draw, Frankie Johnson: No it's. Evan Hoffman: I guess. Oh. What's Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: this? Frankie Johnson: it's text. Evan Hoffman: Right. Frankie Johnson: N Evan Hoffman: Hm. Frankie Johnson: no you have to exit. You Steven Zink: So Frankie Johnson: could Steven Zink: that's Frankie Johnson: also make line with uh Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Two hours further. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: thickness. Oh. Steven Zink: So that's blue. Evan Hoffman: Oh. Wh why not go for the twenty? Frankie Johnson: Mm. Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: Mm. Evan Hoffman: That's Frankie Johnson: Y Evan Hoffman: what I call painting. So that's that's a dark blue basic colour Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: I guess. Frankie Johnson: Yeah and then on Evan Hoffman: It's pretty Frankie Johnson: top Evan Hoffman: nice. Frankie Johnson: of that. Evan Hoffman: And then uh Oh Frankie Johnson: Some Evan Hoffman: Yeah Frankie Johnson: yellow. Evan Hoffman: with some some yellow banana Frankie Johnson: Banana colour. Evan Hoffman: Like. Marvin Marie: And how about some uh some flashing standby lights? Like you have on the Samsung, well I don't like to call brands phones, the you know that 'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often. Evan Hoffman: Yeah? Marvin Marie: So it not not only in in the colours of the LEDs, that we want something to keep it visible at all times, or Evan Hoffman: How do you mean? Marvin Marie: Um Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: Some Frankie Johnson: if Evan Hoffman: some Frankie Johnson: you Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: if flashing colour so you can't lose it, basically. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Exactly. Frankie Johnson: Well I Steven Zink: Maybe Frankie Johnson: think Steven Zink: a Frankie Johnson: it's a bit too much but Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah an orange. Well alright well this Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: is more like purple I guess, but Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: it's should be more real dark blue, so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: high. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: So uh yeah. That would be a nice uh nice device Steven Zink: And Evan Hoffman: I guess. Steven Zink: which which colour should uh should I give the the display? Uh Or Frankie Johnson: Who? Evan Hoffman: I mean, the the colour of the background of the Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: display? Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a Frankie Johnson: And then you Evan Hoffman: sixty Frankie Johnson: can use yellow Evan Hoffman: uh Frankie Johnson: or semething. Evan Hoffman: sixty six five thousand uh Frankie Johnson: Why Evan Hoffman: colour, Frankie Johnson: not? Evan Hoffman: so yeah too expensive. Frankie Johnson: Aye. Evan Hoffman: So Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: just just a a blue blue Steven Zink: Mm. Evan Hoffman: backlight or Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: something like that. Green is too old-fashioned. But blue, Marvin Marie: As Evan Hoffman: blue's Marvin Marie: long Evan Hoffman: okay. Marvin Marie: as you loo Evan Hoffman: J Marvin Marie: use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour. Steven Zink: Yeah maybe Marvin Marie: So Frankie Johnson: Like Marvin Marie: that Steven Zink: a Marvin Marie: people Frankie Johnson: this. Marvin Marie: with Steven Zink: maybe Marvin Marie: uh Steven Zink: a white Marvin Marie: with Steven Zink: a white backlight? Evan Hoffman: White backlight, and dark. Steven Zink: Dark uh letters, yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Whatever which is visible. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions. I mean it's hard Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: to tell Marvin Marie: And also Evan Hoffman: uh I Marvin Marie: for Evan Hoffman: dunno. Marvin Marie: people who are a bit colourblind. Frankie Johnson: Colourblind yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. True. Frankie Johnson: No so that's mostly red and green I believe. Evan Hoffman: Which which uh colour should the buttons be? Steven Zink: That's adjustable. Frankie Johnson: Woah. Evan Hoffman: Why Frankie Johnson: All Evan Hoffman: adjustable? Frankie Johnson: all buttons? Steven Zink: Yeah? Or Frankie Johnson: Okay. Evan Hoffman: No Steven Zink: not. Evan Hoffman: uh Steven Zink: That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy. Or is Evan Hoffman: But Steven Zink: it uh too expensive? Evan Hoffman: maybe I mean they Frankie Johnson: It's Evan Hoffman: have Frankie Johnson: difficult. Evan Hoffman: to they have to have some colour right? And if the background is Frankie Johnson: Blue. Evan Hoffman: very dark blue Frankie Johnson: Maybe green. Marvin Marie: But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours? So th the total Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: of the Frankie Johnson: you can Marvin Marie: thing is very bright? Like the pictures I showed you guys. Those Evan Hoffman: Yeah? Marvin Marie: things were all like like Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm Marvin Marie: bright Frankie Johnson: flashy. Marvin Marie: red, bright red, flashy. Evan Hoffman: So more like Frankie Johnson: Mm bzz. Evan Hoffman: Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour. Marvin Marie: Yeah something like that, something that Evan Hoffman: And then Marvin Marie: stands out more. Evan Hoffman: then yellow and orange and red objects on it Steven Zink: Mm. Evan Hoffman: or something. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: But then then again, which colour should the buttons be? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or Frankie Johnson: Red maybe. Steven Zink: And it it looks Evan Hoffman: Uh Steven Zink: quite Frankie Johnson: Black. Steven Zink: cheap, that colour I think. It's it's not Marvin Marie: The green? Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah Frankie Johnson: Why? Evan Hoffman: but it's pretty Steven Zink: I dunno. Evan Hoffman: fresh, on the Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: other side. Frankie Johnson: So Marvin Marie: It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment. Steven Zink: It's it's trendy okay. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: But Evan Hoffman: My couch Steven Zink: Mm. Evan Hoffman: is in that colour. Frankie Johnson: Ooh. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Well Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: it works pretty well. And then time was up. Frankie Johnson: Uh not yet. Evan Hoffman: Uh. Marvin Marie: Do you get a pop-up if Frankie Johnson: Yeah Marvin Marie: we Frankie Johnson: within five minutes yeah. Evan Hoffman: That Marvin Marie: Alright. Evan Hoffman: you have five minutes Frankie Johnson: Y left Evan Hoffman: left or Frankie Johnson: yeah left and then uh I have to kick you Evan Hoffman: So Frankie Johnson: out. Evan Hoffman: something like this. Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: That should be pretty nice colour. But maybe the buttons, all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: people. Frankie Johnson: yeah. Marvin Marie: No Evan Hoffman: Because Marvin Marie: that's Evan Hoffman: the Marvin Marie: actu Evan Hoffman: of the Steven Zink: But Evan Hoffman: green. Steven Zink: the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not? Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: They have LEDs but they Marvin Marie: Red Frankie Johnson: have a colour. Marvin Marie: and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind. Evan Hoffman: Yeah? Marvin Marie: They will see one of each as grey. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: But if you use uh green on blue, those kind of colours will look the same. Steven Zink: Okay. Evan Hoffman: Okay. Marvin Marie: I think. Evan Hoffman: So red buttons are okay? Marvin Marie: I think so. Steven Zink: Okay. That Frankie Johnson: You can Steven Zink: that's Frankie Johnson: make Steven Zink: a Frankie Johnson: them Steven Zink: default Frankie Johnson: red. Steven Zink: uh setting. The the red buttons. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light. Evan Hoffman: How do you mean? Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Uh they they don't determine the colour Steven Zink: Okay. Yeah Frankie Johnson: that much, Steven Zink: I I Frankie Johnson: I Steven Zink: was Frankie Johnson: think. Steven Zink: think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and Frankie Johnson: 'Cause Evan Hoffman: No Frankie Johnson: you have to Evan Hoffman: that's that's Frankie Johnson: print Evan Hoffman: too Frankie Johnson: on Evan Hoffman: busy Frankie Johnson: them you Evan Hoffman: I guess. Frankie Johnson: have Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: a background. Each number is transparent. Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Uh partly but you have to print on the number. Or the the sign. Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: So you can't Evan Hoffman: You better Frankie Johnson: change Evan Hoffman: bet Frankie Johnson: the colour so Evan Hoffman: better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: I guess. So just an extra Frankie Johnson: Bit of light. Marvin Marie: You can Evan Hoffman: bit of light Marvin Marie: what Evan Hoffman: and Marvin Marie: we Evan Hoffman: attention. Marvin Marie: should Frankie Johnson: Bit Marvin Marie: do Frankie Johnson: of feedback. Marvin Marie: I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button, with Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: uh one coloured LED behind it. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: So that the whole button will shine Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: as the colour the And if you think about easy to use buttons, we have to, well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands, but also that you can reach the buttons Frankie Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marvin Marie: with your thumb, Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: if Frankie Johnson: Okay Marvin Marie: you hold Frankie Johnson: with Marvin Marie: the machine. Frankie Johnson: Uh Don't mean to discourage you but uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard. Next thirty minutes to design Marvin Marie: Ah, right. Frankie Johnson: something so Evan Hoffman: Alright. Frankie Johnson: And the You will do the evaluation. Evan Hoffman: Of the product? Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Which we don't have yet. Frankie Johnson: Yeah uh about Evan Hoffman: So wh how should I do that? Frankie Johnson: Yeah I don't know. Evan Hoffman: Oh Frankie Johnson: You Evan Hoffman: okay. Frankie Johnson: probably get a mail. Evan Hoffman: Or you you or you send it to Evan Hoffman. Or just because Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: you are Frankie Johnson: Once Evan Hoffman: going Frankie Johnson: they Evan Hoffman: to Frankie Johnson: are finished. Evan Hoffman: design it Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: on this board right? Frankie Johnson: Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: I don't know. Evan Hoffman: I I probably get instruction on that, Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: how to do that, so I make another presentation I guess. Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: I kn I know what's gonna happen in Frankie Johnson: About. Evan Hoffman: in Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: yeah so Frankie Johnson: You have the basic idea. Evan Hoffman: I've a basic idea. Frankie Johnson: And you two uh are going to do this. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: So Frankie Johnson: Look-and-feel Marvin Marie: we're gonna work Frankie Johnson: and Marvin Marie: here? On this sketchboard? Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: Good Marvin Marie: Alright. Frankie Johnson: luck. Marvin Marie: Thanks. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Alright so that's Frankie Johnson: So Evan Hoffman: uh Frankie Johnson: I uh make new page and uh be creative. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Alright. Steven Zink: But we have to do it at this moment, after Frankie Johnson: Yeah Steven Zink: th this Frankie Johnson: you Steven Zink: meeting? Frankie Johnson: have uh Marvin Marie: Thirty minutes. Frankie Johnson: thirty minutes. Steven Zink: Okay. Frankie Johnson: Then we have to uh see something Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: which we Steven Zink: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: can Marvin Marie: Alright. Frankie Johnson: uh Steven Zink: Ah Frankie Johnson: show Steven Zink: so this Frankie Johnson: to the Steven Zink: is Frankie Johnson: management. Steven Zink: basically the what what we are thinking about? Marvin Marie: Yeah. Shall Frankie Johnson: I would Marvin Marie: we uh Frankie Johnson: yeah. Marvin Marie: make a new uh Steven Zink: Yeah Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: l Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: let's just uh delete all Frankie Johnson: Next. Steven Zink: these uh or Marvin Marie: Yeah, I just Steven Zink: Oh, next. Marvin Marie: make a new one. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Alright. Frankie Johnson: Oh and save this uh board. Marvin Marie: Huh? Frankie Johnson: Just Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: save Marvin Marie: I'll just Frankie Johnson: it. Marvin Marie: I'll just keep it there. Frankie Johnson: Yeah okay but just press save and uh Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: It'll be fine. Evan Hoffman: On the left. S so, yeah. Marvin Marie: Uh sorry. Frankie Johnson: You can also include clip-art. Marvin Marie: Okay. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Current Frankie Johnson: So if you'll Marvin Marie: colour? Frankie Johnson: rather draw in paint or something Marvin Marie: So um Steven Zink: Okay. Uh Marvin Marie: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first? Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Because Steven Zink: And then after Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: that we Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: can make the user uh inter interface. Frankie Johnson: then look. Marvin Marie: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the Evan Hoffman: This? Marvin Marie: basic look-and-feel Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: design. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: So how it's gonna look. And you have to think Evan Hoffman: Uh Marvin Marie: uh Evan Hoffman: pretty Marvin Marie: how we're Evan Hoffman: accurate. Marvin Marie: gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things. So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be Evan Hoffman: Oh Marvin Marie: able Evan Hoffman: we Marvin Marie: to put Evan Hoffman: skip Marvin Marie: a screen Evan Hoffman: this I Marvin Marie: in Evan Hoffman: guess. Marvin Marie: there, Evan Hoffman: Sound Marvin Marie: you have to Evan Hoffman: button Marvin Marie: correct. Evan Hoffman: press. Steven Zink: Yep. Marvin Marie: Uh Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: do you mind if I Frankie Johnson: You Marvin Marie: draw Frankie Johnson: can also Marvin Marie: in black Frankie Johnson: include Marvin Marie: then? Frankie Johnson: it. It's Marvin Marie: For Frankie Johnson: not much Marvin Marie: normal Frankie Johnson: work. Marvin Marie: sketches. Evan Hoffman: Light only Steven Zink: Oh Evan Hoffman: button Steven Zink: no it's it's Evan Hoffman: user Steven Zink: okay. Evan Hoffman: ca user interaction. Marvin Marie: so we kind Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: of Frankie Johnson: That's Marvin Marie: want Frankie Johnson: included. Marvin Marie: the girlish Frankie Johnson: Yeah Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: okay. Evan Hoffman: So Marvin Marie: figure. Evan Hoffman: the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only Marvin Marie: I'm Evan Hoffman: lit Marvin Marie: not so good Evan Hoffman: during Marvin Marie: at drawing. Evan Hoffman: interaction. So Marvin Marie: Excuse Evan Hoffman? Evan Hoffman: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um, well that they are plastic, because then you can light up the light Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: on Steven Zink: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: when when they are usable. Marvin Marie: No uh uh. Evan Hoffman: Maybe you should draw it very large Steven Zink: Yeah Evan Hoffman: like this. Steven Zink: but Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Steven Zink: this part isn't uh functioning Frankie Johnson: Sensitive. Evan Hoffman: Oh Steven Zink: properly. Evan Hoffman: right. Marvin Marie: How do we uh Evan Hoffman: Erase? Marvin Marie: uh or insert text? Frankie Johnson: I dunno. Maybe just start typing. Steven Zink: It's a bit Marvin Marie: Oh that's Steven Zink: uh Marvin Marie: a Steven Zink: large. Marvin Marie: bit big. Yeah. Frankie Johnson: You also do the other sides. Not only on the front si uh the top Marvin Marie: Yeah. Frankie Johnson: side Marvin Marie: Ex Frankie Johnson: but Marvin Marie: exactly. Frankie Johnson: also the the side view. Steven Zink: L Marvin Marie: Uh Steven Zink: let's make first the the the all Frankie Johnson: Uh. Steven Zink: the views. The the front view, side view and the back view. Marvin Marie: Uh I thought for the side view, that Frankie Johnson: Jesus. Marvin Marie: the w Frankie Johnson: What Marvin Marie: the Frankie Johnson: do Marvin Marie: basic Frankie Johnson: I write Marvin Marie: section Frankie Johnson: down? Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: would be rather Frankie Johnson: Why can't Marvin Marie: uh Frankie Johnson: I work here? This Marvin Marie: a bit Frankie Johnson: is much Marvin Marie: thicker than the middle, Evan Hoffman: Much Marvin Marie: where Frankie Johnson: easier. Marvin Marie: you're Evan Hoffman: easier, Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: holding Evan Hoffman: yeah. Marvin Marie: it with your 'cause your Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: fingers have to fit underneath Steven Zink: The middle has Marvin Marie: and Steven Zink: to be Frankie Johnson: Mm. Steven Zink: very small Evan Hoffman: I don't Steven Zink: so Evan Hoffman: see Steven Zink: you Evan Hoffman: a Steven Zink: can Evan Hoffman: sign that the meeting Steven Zink: have Evan Hoffman: is over Steven Zink: it in your Evan Hoffman: yet Steven Zink: hand. Marvin Marie: Exactly Evan Hoffman: but Frankie Johnson: No Marvin Marie: but Frankie Johnson: so Marvin Marie: the Frankie Johnson: I just Marvin Marie: uh Frankie Johnson: work here Marvin Marie: but Frankie Johnson: a Marvin Marie: the Frankie Johnson: few minutes. Marvin Marie: upper Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: side has to be a bit more like that I think. Steven Zink: Yeah Marvin Marie: Uh don't Steven Zink: the display, Marvin Marie: you think? Steven Zink: we yeah we can Marvin Marie: So Steven Zink: put Marvin Marie: the Steven Zink: a Marvin Marie: display Steven Zink: display. Marvin Marie: we will put in here, the basic uh functions in here, where it's most reachable. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: The Steven Zink: The the Marvin Marie: The th Steven Zink: arrow functions. Marvin Marie: Exactly. Steven Zink: Yeah. Yeah. Marvin Marie: Oh. This is hard. What do don't have to draw it exactly do we? Steven Zink: No it's it's uh it's okay. Marvin Marie: Wait. Let Evan Hoffman try it one more time. Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay, of course it will become way more ugly. Steven Zink: You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh Marvin Marie: Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen. Um so, larger. Evan Hoffman: Oh. Steven Zink: Yeah Evan Hoffman: Wrong Steven Zink: that's Marvin Marie: And Evan Hoffman: one. Steven Zink: that's the basic idea. Yeah. Marvin Marie: yeah. So side. Frankie Johnson: Five minutes left before the meeting ends. Marvin Marie: 'Kay. Um other views? Evan Hoffman: Alright. Steven Zink: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the Marvin Marie: Uh Steven Zink: unit. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Steven Zink: That's the question. Evan Hoffman: But we we Marvin Marie: Let's fill i fill in the buttons later. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: So this is gonna be from the Evan Hoffman: I is it if Marvin Marie: uh from Evan Hoffman: if this is from the side woah. Steven Zink: From Marvin Marie: yeah Steven Zink: the Marvin Marie: yeah. Evan Hoffman: Steady. Marvin Marie: Sorry. Evan Hoffman: Because there the screen goes up like that right? Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: So then it's like this, or Marvin Marie: Yeah? Evan Hoffman: that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip Steven Zink: Yeah Marvin Marie: The Steven Zink: I'm Marvin Marie: the Steven Zink: I'm Marvin Marie: idea Evan Hoffman: all the way? Marvin Marie: is that it has to flip up Steven Zink: May Marvin Marie: to here. Steven Zink: maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Marvin Marie: Okay. Steven Zink: Because it do doesn't have to flip then. Because Marvin Marie: Yeah. Steven Zink: we have en enough Marvin Marie: Yeah yeah Steven Zink: space Marvin Marie: yeah. Steven Zink: for for making a an L_C_D. Because Evan Hoffman: It's Steven Zink: here Evan Hoffman: better to to Marvin Marie: True. Evan Hoffman: have this like this I guess, and then flip it like Steven Zink: But why Evan Hoffman: this. Steven Zink: why do we need uh the flipping uh Marvin Marie: you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle, it can flip all the Steven Zink: Okay. Marvin Marie: way up to there. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: You can flip it up to there if you Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: want. Evan Hoffman: So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism. Marvin Marie: Think Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: so. Frankie Johnson: Yeah we keep the flip? Keep the Marvin Marie: Yeah Frankie Johnson: flip Marvin Marie: because Frankie Johnson: live. Marvin Marie: I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: I dunno. Steven Zink: Uh the the shape is okay but yeah? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: Because Marvin Marie: thought Steven Zink: we Marvin Marie: it would be cool. Steven Zink: Okay yeah. It's it's for Evan Hoffman: Yeah Steven Zink: for Evan Hoffman: but Steven Zink: for Evan Hoffman: maybe Steven Zink: more trendy uh Evan Hoffman: Yeah but maybe we we should then Steven Zink: Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions, Evan Hoffman: Yeah Steven Zink: the Evan Hoffman: there the middle Steven Zink: the arrow uh yeah button. Evan Hoffman: Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it? Steven Zink: Yeah and Evan Hoffman: And then Steven Zink: then h we sh mm. Evan Hoffman: like i oh th doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't Marvin Marie: It doesn't aim so well. Evan Hoffman: Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls Steven Zink: Yeah, Evan Hoffman: on the other side, Steven Zink: then it's Evan Hoffman: it doesn't fall on the screen. So there's a layer of rubber on Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: the side. Marvin Marie: yeah yeah. Definitely. Evan Hoffman: So no flipping but just Steven Zink: No flipping or Frankie Johnson: No flipping? Evan Hoffman: no. Steven Zink: you wanted the flipping so Marvin Marie: Yeah I guess but uh I mean Steven Zink: But Marvin Marie: most Steven Zink: if you Marvin Marie: votes Steven Zink: if you Marvin Marie: count right? Steven Zink: If you drop it it it just breaks. And it has to be very strong because of the. Yeah Evan Hoffman: Throwing Frankie Johnson: It's shaking. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: and the kinetics. Oh. Steven Zink: kind of Evan Hoffman: We Marvin Marie: Yeah Evan Hoffman: better Marvin Marie: true Evan Hoffman: make Marvin Marie: true. Evan Hoffman: we better make it like this. Marvin Marie: Yeah. Evan Hoffman: Eventually. Frankie Johnson: Yeah just Marvin Marie: Yeah Steven Zink: And Marvin Marie: if Frankie Johnson: light Steven Zink: it's Marvin Marie: you if Frankie Johnson: on top. Marvin Marie: you're going Steven Zink: also Marvin Marie: for Steven Zink: for Marvin Marie: the kinetics Steven Zink: the for Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: the children, it's yeah for people Frankie Johnson: Safer. Steven Zink: not sixteen years. Frankie Johnson: Mm. Evan Hoffman: Uh Steven Zink: But Evan Hoffman: they Frankie Johnson: Yeah Steven Zink: there Evan Hoffman: are Steven Zink: are Evan Hoffman: responsible Frankie Johnson: okay Steven Zink: more Frankie Johnson: that the Evan Hoffman: enough Frankie Johnson: target Evan Hoffman: to have a mobile Frankie Johnson: group. Evan Hoffman: phone, so also to to Steven Zink: Yeah Evan Hoffman: deal Steven Zink: okay. Evan Hoffman: with their Steven Zink: That's true. Evan Hoffman: uh remote uh control. Yes. Steven Zink: Okay. Yeah? Frankie Johnson: Well. Marvin Marie: Yeah. I'm just Frankie Johnson: I just Marvin Marie: thinking Frankie Johnson: uh ended Marvin Marie: totally Frankie Johnson: the meeting. Marvin Marie: different Frankie Johnson: You Marvin Marie: designs Frankie Johnson: two go Marvin Marie: also. Frankie Johnson: design. Steven Zink: Okay Marvin Marie: Remember Steven Zink: wi Marvin Marie: that the weird pocketphone thingy Frankie Johnson: Oh. Marvin Marie: which Frankie Johnson: By the way. Marvin Marie: looked like Frankie Johnson: Um Marvin Marie: kind of a Gameboy. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Maybe we should try something like that. Frankie Johnson: I Marvin Marie: But yeah. Frankie Johnson: uh thought up a name for our product. Evan Hoffman: Yeah? Marvin Marie: Oh Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: right. Frankie Johnson: It's called uh the Real Remote. Evan Hoffman: Ooh. Marvin Marie: Alright. Frankie Johnson: With a copyright sign after Real. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Steven Zink: The Evan Hoffman: Alright. Steven Zink: Real Remote. Marvin Marie: Yeah. I like it. Okay. Frankie Johnson: So Evan Hoffman: Good. Frankie Johnson: maybe Marvin Marie: This Frankie Johnson: you Marvin Marie: can Frankie Johnson: can Marvin Marie: go. Frankie Johnson: include that somewhere. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. We should work in our own room right? Or Frankie Johnson: Yeah. Marvin Marie: Oh Evan Hoffman: not? Marvin Marie: yeah we have to f uh include that in our design Frankie Johnson: I don't see Marvin Marie: as Frankie Johnson: any Marvin Marie: well. Frankie Johnson: power cables here so Marvin Marie: Let's see. Evan Hoffman: Yeah. Yes. Marvin Marie: What the hell's that? Frankie Johnson: 'Kay. Evan Hoffman: See you two Steven Zink: I think Evan Hoffman: in half Steven Zink: uh Evan Hoffman: an hour Steven Zink: it's Evan Hoffman: uh Steven Zink: the sensors. Okay. Marvin Marie: Uh Frankie Johnson: Good luck. Steven Zink: Yep. Okay that's the side. Ah it's it's okay. But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons? Marvin Marie: Yeah. Steven Zink: Or just Marvin Marie: I Steven Zink: leave Marvin Marie: think Steven Zink: it? Marvin Marie: we do. Steven Zink: Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll, volume button. Marvin Marie: Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m Steven Zink: For Marvin Marie: yeah. Steven Zink: menu. Marvin Marie: Yeah? Steven Zink: Or Marvin Marie: I dunno. We w kind of wanted to stick with the Steven Zink: Yeah. No, Marvin Marie: Yeah I'm just Steven Zink: yeah. Marvin Marie: thinking, if we i we wanna make something different right? So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons. Steven Zink: Yeah. Marvin Marie: I think. Steven Zink: Mm. Yeah you are going to design it so.	Evan Hoffman talked about trendwatching and explained that the current trends are for fruit and vegetable themed products and products with a spongy texture. For users, the three most important aspects of a remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, and ease of use. Marvin Marie talked about the options for energy source, case shape and material, and internal components. The group decided on using kinetic energy, and a double-curved rubber case. Steven Zink talked about speech recognition and what functions will be controlled through buttons or the lcd screen menu. Frankie Johnson ran through the group's decisions so far and led a discussion of their remaining options, including the colour of the case and buttons, and whether the remote should flip open or not.	3	amisum	train
Gerald Levy: Okay. Uh first of all I'll start with the costs, because that's going to influence Billy Koch: Oh no. Gerald Levy: our design. Otis Pifer: Oh, Gerald Levy: If you Don't know if you al already had a look or not? Brian Rocha: Did you Billy Koch: No Brian Rocha: do your Billy Koch: n Otis Pifer: No. Brian Rocha: questionnaire already? Billy Koch: I I already did it. It's not much. It's just Gerald Levy: Because Billy Koch: one Brian Rocha: Uh Billy Koch: question. Otis Pifer: Oh Gerald Levy: we have a problem. If you look closely, Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: you can see. Brian Rocha: It wants Gerald Levy: Um I already took the liberty to make some suggestions. Gerald Levy: At the moment we have fifteen buttons, one L_C_D_ screen, one advanced chip-on-print. We use a uh sensor, that's for the speech. Uh we use kinetic energy. And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour. Okay. What's the first thing we should drop? The special colour of the buttons? Billy Koch: No that's that's for the trendy uh Gerald Levy: Okay. Billy Koch: feel and look. So Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: Uh Brian Rocha: but everything is. Gerald Levy: Should we switch to a hand dynamo? Uh that's Otis Pifer: No. Gerald Levy: the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use Billy Koch: Yeah, Gerald Levy: it Billy Koch: b Gerald Levy: and do Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: things. Billy Koch: but Otis Pifer: but young people like that. So Gerald Levy: Batteries? Otis Pifer: just do normal battery. Gerald Levy: Batteries. Billy Koch: I think Brian Rocha: Just Billy Koch: the Brian Rocha: a Billy Koch: battery Brian Rocha: normal Billy Koch: option. Brian Rocha: battery then, yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. It has to be twelve and a half. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Or not? Billy Koch: Oh. Brian Rocha: Oh my goodness. Gerald Levy: So You're going to redesign something. Billy Koch: Oh no. Gerald Levy: Okay, so we're at twenty five. Otis Pifer: Uh, yeah. Gerald Levy: Um Do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved? Brian Rocha: Well I guess i we'll have to go for single curve then. I mean we have to drop on everything. Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: But Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved, but from the side it's it's flat, and Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: the screen screen is just Well you just have to hold it like this then. So Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: How Gerald Levy: Um Brian Rocha: about Sorry. Gerald Levy: Uh another option I saw was to drop the buttons one through nine, so you can't directly access a channel, but instead use only the up and down arrows. Brian Rocha: That's what Gerald Levy: That Brian Rocha: I Gerald Levy: would Brian Rocha: was thinking. Gerald Levy: skip Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: nine buttons and four and a half Euros. Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Otis Pifer: Let's Brian Rocha: A a Otis Pifer: do it then. Yeah. Gerald Levy: Uh then Billy Koch: But Gerald Levy: we have Billy Koch: we Gerald Levy: left Billy Koch: don't have any basic options any more. Gerald Levy: Uh yeah. We do. Brian Rocha: And uh Otis Pifer: F_ Brian Rocha: 'cause Otis Pifer: eight. Brian Rocha: then they don't have to n They don't need special colour as well. Gerald Levy: They don't need special colours. Fine. That's more like it. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: You were saying something. Brian Rocha: That was exactly my point. Like Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: let's drop all the buttons, and just make one I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway. Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Brian Rocha: So we'll just have to use it for everything. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: And then you can make an overview of channels in the screen, and select a channel, Gerald Levy: Yeah, some Brian Rocha: click Gerald Levy: more menu options. Yeah. Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons. But um Now let's look. Billy Koch: Yeah we c could We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing. Everything you can do with with menu. So Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Billy Koch: With the Brian Rocha: Yeah Billy Koch: display. Brian Rocha: we need one integrated button for everything Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: then. Otis Pifer: The joystick. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Kind of. I was Gerald Levy: Uh Brian Rocha: Because Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah, scroll-wheel, push-button uh Otis Pifer: Integrated Brian Rocha: If you if you go Otis Pifer: scroll-wheel Brian Rocha: to Otis Pifer: push-button, Brian Rocha: If Otis Pifer: yeah. Brian Rocha: you go to our uh view, like you if you are in the sound system there, Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: uh and you wanna adjust the treble for instance, Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: this is just uh an example, Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Brian Rocha: y y you wanna see a bar on which you can adjust it from Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Brian Rocha: zero to ten for example. Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Brian Rocha: But you want a sound preview of how it's gonna sound, right? So Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: you wanna click on it, activate it, whe and when you move it, hear the difference of the treble coming out Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: or going into the sound. So you'll you'll need a a kind of a joystick Otis Pifer: Yeah or Brian Rocha: uh Otis Pifer: or the Brian Rocha: button. Otis Pifer: integrated scroll-wheel push-button. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: So that's kind of on your mouse and then you can click it, adjust it, click again and then you're out of it. But Brian Rocha: Exactly. Otis Pifer: you still But you then still need to have Well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels. But you still um Brian Rocha: Yeah it's r Yeah. Otis Pifer: You still have to have some some button in the Billy Koch: So Otis Pifer: menu Billy Koch: you do one Otis Pifer: to go Billy Koch: inte Otis Pifer: back. Billy Koch: You can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: And then just drop all the other buttons. Gerald Levy: Uh yeah. Otis Pifer: Well not all. Not Billy Koch: But Otis Pifer: s not sound Billy Koch: but Otis Pifer: I Billy Koch: th Otis Pifer: guess. Billy Koch: the cost of one Brian Rocha: No. Billy Koch: integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons. Gerald Levy: Yeah. It's uh One integrated button is five times the cost of a normal Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: button. Otis Pifer: Mm. Billy Koch: So we Gerald Levy: So Billy Koch: have to to make it s uh more uh It has Gerald Levy: You Billy Koch: to be Gerald Levy: could also drop j three more of these, without losing much functionality. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: You Otis Pifer: Wh Gerald Levy: just Otis Pifer: wh Gerald Levy: drop Otis Pifer: what Gerald Levy: the Otis Pifer: what Gerald Levy: Okay Otis Pifer: what Gerald Levy: and Otis Pifer: is Gerald Levy: the Back. Otis Pifer: the what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker? Gerald Levy: Oh, that's for the speech. Otis Pifer: Speech recognition. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Could Otis Pifer: Right. Billy Koch: drop the speech recognition. Gerald Levy: S s Drop speech recognition? Brian Rocha: No but Gerald Levy: Yeah that's Billy Koch: We Gerald Levy: possible. Billy Koch: we d Brian Rocha: Yeah it's it's expensive, but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition. 'Cause it can take the function of a lot of uh Gerald Levy: Buttons. Otis Pifer: Buttons. Brian Rocha: uh buttons. Gerald Levy: That's Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: not Brian Rocha: I Gerald Levy: very easy to use. Otis Pifer: No, Brian Rocha: No. Otis Pifer: it can be disturbed by by noise and Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: stuff Brian Rocha: but lets Otis Pifer: like Brian Rocha: just say that Otis Pifer: that. Let Brian Rocha: the speech Otis Pifer: let let Brian Rocha: recognition Otis Pifer: Otis Pifer see what's more Brian Rocha: works. Otis Pifer: what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: I have to look on that. Let Otis Pifer see. Uh well no I was wrong. There are more people who like speech recognition than Gerald Levy: Yep. Otis Pifer: an L_C_D_ screen. Gerald Levy: Okay. Because if you d Otis Pifer: But Gerald Levy: lose Otis Pifer: if it Gerald Levy: the L_C_D_ screen, Otis Pifer: But it Gerald Levy: we Otis Pifer: it it's a it's a both Billy Koch: We Otis Pifer: a Billy Koch: lose Gerald Levy: need Otis Pifer: hypers Billy Koch: our Gerald Levy: a lot Billy Koch: whole Gerald Levy: of Billy Koch: concept. Uh Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: so No we Gerald Levy: We need Billy Koch: just Gerald Levy: a Otis Pifer: No, Gerald Levy: lot of extra Otis Pifer: but Gerald Levy: buttons. Billy Koch: We keep Otis Pifer: Well Billy Koch: the Otis Pifer: we Billy Koch: L_C_D_. Otis Pifer: Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent, uh Brian Rocha: We Gerald Levy: Okay Otis Pifer: sixty Brian Rocha: uh we Gerald Levy: so Otis Pifer: six Brian Rocha: we Gerald Levy: we drop Otis Pifer: to Brian Rocha: haven't Otis Pifer: seventy Gerald Levy: the speech. Brian Rocha: really Otis Pifer: six. Brian Rocha: integrated this the speech into the system, so we can might as well s Gerald Levy: And Brian Rocha: drop Gerald Levy: drop Brian Rocha: that. Gerald Levy: it Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: yeah? Otis Pifer: Let's Gerald Levy: Okay. Otis Pifer: drop Gerald Levy: S Otis Pifer: the speech. Gerald Levy: Fo Four less Euros. Otis Pifer: Sixteen Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: Euros. Gerald Levy: we still have three and a half Euro to lose. Brian Rocha: We need Otis Pifer: But Brian Rocha: to Otis Pifer: y y Brian Rocha: lose some buttons. Gerald Levy: Yeah if you lose the the Back, the Okay button Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows, Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: and the Menu button. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Then Otis Pifer: And Gerald Levy: you're Otis Pifer: then and then use um Gerald Levy: Oh and the power button we have also. Otis Pifer: The the Okay. And the menu button does also does the okay function then. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: And then when you in the menu Gerald Levy: So that's one Otis Pifer: S Gerald Levy: Euro. Otis Pifer: so so you activate the menu. Billy Koch: If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons, we Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: can drop all the the push-buttons. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Billy Koch: With Gerald Levy: And Billy Koch: with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing. Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: With Otis Pifer: yeah. Billy Koch: the other, we can do the the channel, the volume, et cetera. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: That would save zero point two Euros compared to No. Billy Koch: No it's three Euros. No? Um Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: No Gerald Levy: To Billy Koch: it's Gerald Levy: This Billy Koch: it's Gerald Levy: together Billy Koch: n Yeah. Gerald Levy: is more expensive than Billy Koch: Yeah yeah Gerald Levy: Oof, Billy Koch: yeah. Gerald Levy: it's almost the same as t keeping this. Otis Pifer: Well okay. Gerald Levy: And we can Otis Pifer: For Gerald Levy: drop Billy Koch: It's Otis Pifer: example Gerald Levy: these Billy Koch: the Otis Pifer: if you have f Gerald Levy: two. Otis Pifer: f four buttons, channel up and down, uh volume Gerald Levy: Volume. Otis Pifer: left right Okay, I've I think we have to keep that. Gerald Levy: And the Otis Pifer: And Gerald Levy: power Otis Pifer: then Gerald Levy: button. Otis Pifer: and the power button. So that's five. Gerald Levy: That's the basic. Otis Pifer: That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu, um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel, the the the menu gets activated, and then you can scroll, choose an option, click on it, it goes into an feature. Click on it again, selects features, scroll, adjust it. Click again, it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option, you set a you set an a screen thing what says back, and you select that one, click again, and you go one step back. And in that menu, scroll, click, one step back. So that then you need five buttons, Gerald Levy: Yep. Otis Pifer: and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button. Brian Rocha: Which Otis Pifer: But Gerald Levy: Okay Otis Pifer: we Gerald Levy: th Otis Pifer: can't Gerald Levy: that's Brian Rocha: That's Otis Pifer: drop three buttons. But I Brian Rocha: even Otis Pifer: see Gerald Levy: Yeah Otis Pifer: that's Gerald Levy: that's one Euro more expensive. Otis Pifer: Yeah. So that's not a good Gerald Levy: That's Otis Pifer: idea. Gerald Levy: not an option. Otis Pifer: Because which buttons do we have now? Those five which I mentioned, and then menu, and Gerald Levy: Menu, Otis Pifer: then Gerald Levy: power. Otis Pifer: Yeah. F of the four things? Gerald Levy: Four arrows? Otis Pifer: Yeah, th power. Gerald Levy: Power. Uh Otis Pifer: Which Brian Rocha: Yeah, if Otis Pifer: more? Brian Rocha: you if you go to eight I don't know how to Gerald Levy: Yeah. Okay. So four arrows? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: Power. Gerald Levy: power I believe? Otis Pifer: Th Yeah that's five. Gerald Levy: Uh We have a Back and a Okay button. Otis Pifer: Yeah, okay that's seven, Gerald Levy: And Otis Pifer: and Gerald Levy: the Otis Pifer: one to activate the menu, Gerald Levy: Menu. Otis Pifer: yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display. Oh, well Gerald Levy: Yeah, Otis Pifer: okay. Gerald Levy: and even if we drop three buttons from here, we still have to make some adjustments around here. So Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah, we need the chip for the for the Gerald Levy: The Brian Rocha: L_C_ Gerald Levy: L_C_D_? Brian Rocha: display. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Let's Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: make Otis Pifer: well we Billy Koch: the Otis Pifer: need Billy Koch: Let's Otis Pifer: the Billy Koch: make Otis Pifer: advanced Billy Koch: the case plastic. Otis Pifer: Instead Gerald Levy: Then I rather Otis Pifer: of r Gerald Levy: make it wood. Because then also it's good in the market with the Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: forty five plus uh Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: people. Otis Pifer: Yeah Brian Rocha: True. Otis Pifer: but but that's not Billy Koch: But Otis Pifer: our market. Gerald Levy: No that maybe not. But maybe it's better than plastic anyway. Otis Pifer: Ah no, hard plastic. Billy Koch: Plastic Brian Rocha: Oh. Billy Koch: with a with a special colour. A Otis Pifer: Yeah, Billy Koch: woo wood Otis Pifer: plastic Billy Koch: uh wood Otis Pifer: with special Billy Koch: uh wood Otis Pifer: colour. Billy Koch: colour. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Billy Koch: That's Gerald Levy: Yeah Billy Koch: an option. Gerald Levy: okay Otis Pifer: No Gerald Levy: uh Otis Pifer: but I I Because we have to use the special colour anyway. You forgot that. Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yep. Yeah, yeah. Otis Pifer: So Billy Koch: So Otis Pifer: let's Billy Koch: we do Otis Pifer: go Billy Koch: one Otis Pifer: for the plastic. Billy Koch: one s Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah, okay. Plastic. Otis Pifer: And since it's not kinetic, it doesn't have to flip Gerald Levy: Uh that's Otis Pifer: around Gerald Levy: easy Otis Pifer: that Gerald Levy: because Otis Pifer: much? Gerald Levy: plastic Brian Rocha: Hmm. Gerald Levy: is free. Billy Koch: Hmm. Otis Pifer: We still have problem of two Euros. Gerald Levy: Yeah, okay. Uh if we dropped uh Billy Koch: No the buttons, those are really needed. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: Yeah Otis Pifer: we can't Billy Koch: th th Otis Pifer: drop Billy Koch: it's Otis Pifer: them. Billy Koch: it's uh An advanced chip-on-print. Brian Rocha: Yeah uh Gerald Levy: You still need Brian Rocha: You Otis Pifer: Do we Gerald Levy: that. Otis Pifer: really need Brian Rocha: uh uh Otis Pifer: that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display? Brian Rocha: Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker, and Which can use a regular chip, wh which is six Euros Gerald Levy: S Brian Rocha: in total. That doesn't matter. Otis Pifer: Oh. Gerald Levy: No, Otis Pifer: I rather Gerald Levy: I Otis Pifer: keep Gerald Levy: keep Otis Pifer: I rather Gerald Levy: the re Otis Pifer: keep the display. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Well Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: yeah. Gerald Levy: Because Otis Pifer: So Gerald Levy: we already designed for Otis Pifer: the Gerald Levy: it. Otis Pifer: only Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: option is an hand Brian Rocha: Exactly. Otis Pifer: dynamo. Billy Koch: Oh Gerald Levy: Yeah Billy Koch: that Gerald Levy: and something else. Otis Pifer: Oh no tha Oh that's Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: one Brian Rocha: but Otis Pifer: Euro, Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: right. Brian Rocha: uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And Otis Pifer: And Brian Rocha: then Otis Pifer: then Brian Rocha: if Otis Pifer: integrated Brian Rocha: w Otis Pifer: s Yeah but that would make it not so Gerald Levy: No Otis Pifer: easy Gerald Levy: y Otis Pifer: to use. Gerald Levy: you Otis Pifer: I mean it's Gerald Levy: would Otis Pifer: not Gerald Levy: rec Otis Pifer: that important, easy to use, but Gerald Levy: Then you Brian Rocha: Th then we have Gerald Levy: have Brian Rocha: to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want, Gerald Levy: Then you Brian Rocha: huh? Gerald Levy: still Brian Rocha: And Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: need Brian Rocha: uh Gerald Levy: two additional buttons I believe. For Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: the volume. Brian Rocha: d at l Gerald Levy: You Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: can use those Yeah. Brian Rocha: At least one for power. Billy Koch: But Gerald Levy: Oh Billy Koch: the Gerald Levy: yeah and power. That's Brian Rocha: Oh. Gerald Levy: three buttons and this would Brian Rocha: Yeah it's Gerald Levy: cost Brian Rocha: just as expensive as what Billy Koch: But Brian Rocha: we Billy Koch: the Brian Rocha: have Billy Koch: integrated Brian Rocha: now. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: uh button? How many func functions can it uh have? Gerald Levy: Three. Up, down, Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: Okay. Brian Rocha: endlessly. I mean it can Billy Koch: Okay. Brian Rocha: be a power button as soon as it powered on. You Otis Pifer: You Brian Rocha: can Otis Pifer: you Brian Rocha: go Otis Pifer: press Brian Rocha: into Otis Pifer: it for Brian Rocha: you Otis Pifer: like three Brian Rocha: in Otis Pifer: seconds. Brian Rocha: you main menu, you can choose uh flip channel, uh you can choose sound options, any options. Otis Pifer: Then then then you should do everything in the menu. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: On the screen. Gerald Levy: Yeah, okay. It Brian Rocha: Maybe Gerald Levy: would Brian Rocha: we Gerald Levy: save Brian Rocha: should. 'Cause we Gerald Levy: enough Brian Rocha: don't have money and w we Gerald Levy: Yeah Brian Rocha: want Gerald Levy: you Brian Rocha: the Gerald Levy: can Brian Rocha: screen. Gerald Levy: choose this, drop these, then we have a half Euro left. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: So we can maybe still use power button. Otis Pifer: Yeah, Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: but we'd Alright. Brian Rocha: I guess Otis Pifer: It Brian Rocha: we Otis Pifer: s Brian Rocha: have Otis Pifer: it saves Brian Rocha: to. Otis Pifer: us four Euros and it costs us two and a half. So let's see, we Brian Rocha: We'll Otis Pifer: we drop Brian Rocha: we'll Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: be Otis Pifer: the price Brian Rocha: on Gerald Levy: You see? Otis Pifer: by one and a half. But we still have thirteen Gerald Levy: Oh still Otis Pifer: left. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Oh then I miscalculated. Oh yeah. Shit. Otis Pifer: There Gerald Levy: Drop Otis Pifer: goes Gerald Levy: the special Otis Pifer: the special co Billy Koch: Oh no. Otis Pifer: Well Gerald Levy: colour. Otis Pifer: That would make it less appealing. So that's no option. Gerald Levy: 'Kay. What else? Uncurved? Billy Koch: No no, it has to be um Otis Pifer: We sure Billy Koch: curved. Otis Pifer: about the advanced chip we need for the display? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah it says right here. Billy Koch: Okay. Gerald Levy: They made Otis Pifer: Well Gerald Levy: it very easy for us. Otis Pifer: yeah. yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display, but Gerald Levy: Ah, Otis Pifer: it's a cool Gerald Levy: I Otis Pifer: feature. Gerald Levy: don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say, this is better for the market so you sell more Billy Koch: Okay. Gerald Levy: than Billy Koch: Wh what we could do is um drop the the special colour, Brian Rocha: Yeah. Billy Koch: and uh do the special colour for the buttons. Gerald Levy: Buttons. That's Oh yeah since we only have one button. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour? Gerald Levy: I just Billy Koch: Just Gerald Levy: m Billy Koch: something Gerald Levy: I don't Billy Koch: else Gerald Levy: I Billy Koch: than Gerald Levy: think Billy Koch: than black or white Gerald Levy: Uh Billy Koch: I think. Gerald Levy: yeah it's I think it's grey, regular. Otis Pifer: S yeah. Alright. Gerald Levy: Grey and rubber. Brian Rocha: But we definitely want Gerald Levy: Of Brian Rocha: the Gerald Levy: plastic. Brian Rocha: thing to be a special colour Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: though. Otis Pifer: Yeah. So I rather Brian Rocha: Damn. Otis Pifer: have an hand dynamo Brian Rocha: Yeah and then Otis Pifer: than than drop the colour. Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: You Brian Rocha: yeah Otis Pifer: can still Brian Rocha: yeah Otis Pifer: play Brian Rocha: yeah. Otis Pifer: with it then I guess. I don't know. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah, but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option. Billy Koch: The display Brian Rocha: Well, Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: you only have to Billy Koch: The Brian Rocha: power it up when you wanna use it. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: But if Brian Rocha: I Billy Koch: you Brian Rocha: don't Billy Koch: have Brian Rocha: know. Billy Koch: to power the for ten minutes, then Gerald Levy: No Billy Koch: the Gerald Levy: I don't think Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: the current status of uh chips are pretty uh Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: energy conserving, no. Otis Pifer: Yeah true. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then. Gerald Levy: Yeah hand dynamo? Do you want an extra button? Otis Pifer: Or or do we Or do we do uncurved and flat? Instead of Billy Koch: No no it has to be curved. Otis Pifer: Yeah it Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: has to be curved and Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: has to have that colour. Billy Koch: Just put Brian Rocha: Yeah. Billy Koch: a Otis Pifer: And Billy Koch: special Otis Pifer: a screen. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Billy Koch: special Brian Rocha: That's Billy Koch: colour Brian Rocha: the most Billy Koch: of the buttons, Brian Rocha: import Billy Koch: or something. Gerald Levy: Yep? Instead of Billy Koch: Yeah or Gerald Levy: an Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: additional Billy Koch: spe Gerald Levy: power Billy Koch: special Gerald Levy: button? Billy Koch: form? Otis Pifer: S what what is special f Oh yeah, special form. Gerald Levy: Yeah? Otis Pifer: Maybe that's nicer. Gerald Levy: It's for scroll Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: But Gerald Levy: Without Otis Pifer: we don't have any buttons. So Brian Rocha: We only Otis Pifer: do Brian Rocha: have Otis Pifer: d Uh make Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: it a Billy Koch: But Otis Pifer: special Billy Koch: it's Otis Pifer: colour Billy Koch: it's for Otis Pifer: then. Billy Koch: the integrated button, I think also. Or Otis Pifer: Yeah Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: ma Brian Rocha: but Otis Pifer: make it a special colour Gerald Levy: Yeah Otis Pifer: then. Gerald Levy: but it's just a scroll-wheel which Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: you can push Billy Koch: Okay. Gerald Levy: down. Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: Okay. Make Gerald Levy: Yeah? Otis Pifer: it a special colour and then it look fancy. Billy Koch: Yep. Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: So Gerald Levy: Woah we're within budget. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: It's Billy Koch: Oh Gerald Levy: a Otis Pifer: Let's Gerald Levy: miracle. Billy Koch: just oh Otis Pifer: let's Billy Koch: ma Otis Pifer: save Billy Koch: make Otis Pifer: it. Billy Koch: it two special colours, but we only have one button. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Okay. Otis Pifer: Let's do it like this, I mean, because Gerald Levy: Yeah? Otis Pifer: it does not lose our identity of the product as we Gerald Levy: Okay. Um, well. 'Kay, this was old. Brian Rocha: Well we come back to the drawing board then, huh? Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah back to work. Otis Pifer: Yeah all Billy Koch: Okay. Otis Pifer: your Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: designs are uh pretty much Brian Rocha: It's Gerald Levy: Did Brian Rocha: silly Gerald Levy: I Brian Rocha: 'cause we we Gerald Levy: save Brian Rocha: should have had this Gerald Levy: it? Brian Rocha: meeting before we start drawing. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah but that but that's the fun part of Gerald Levy: I Otis Pifer: it. Gerald Levy: I wanted to go, Brian Rocha: Oh yeah? Gerald Levy: but I wasn't allowed. So Brian Rocha: okay. Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute. Otis Pifer: Yeah what's the next uh phase? Gerald Levy: Yeah, this the last phase of course, so Otis Pifer: Uh the agenda. By your humble P_M_. Gerald Levy: Hmm. Otis Pifer: Oh f Gerald Levy: Oh. Otis Pifer: Frustrated. Alright. Yeah. Gerald Levy: Okay. Um Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation. But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense, because we had to Brian Rocha: Drop Gerald Levy: drop Brian Rocha: everything. Gerald Levy: it. Otis Pifer: Drop, yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Uh Brian Rocha: We went straight into finance? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Yeah it was more important, so Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: I Brian Rocha: For Gerald Levy: just Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: pushed Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: up the agenda. Uh, evaluation criteria. You have t Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: produced Otis Pifer: that Gerald Levy: something Otis Pifer: that's Gerald Levy: about that? Otis Pifer: Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so Gerald Levy: Uh you put it in the. Otis Pifer: We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements. Alright. Gerald Levy: F_ five. Otis Pifer: Let's make it big. Um Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale, as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false, and then on a scale of seven points, a scale, Brian Rocha: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: as we all know it. Um Well the criteria are based on the user requirements, uh the trends from the marketing research, and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document, which I will open now. Gerald Levy: Alt up Otis Pifer: Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this? Oh. I don't know. Gerald Levy: Freaky. Otis Pifer: Um Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that? Brian Rocha: I think it does. Because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_, right? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Uh, of course Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: we dropped Otis Pifer: the us Gerald Levy: a Otis Pifer: u Gerald Levy: little bit of those uh Otis Pifer: It it it's Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions, in Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: this question. So do you think Brian Rocha: Well, we have extended menus, on Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: You Brian Rocha: on the Otis Pifer: can Brian Rocha: L_C_D_ Otis Pifer: you can ma Brian Rocha: screen. Otis Pifer: Yeah, Billy Koch: Yep. Brian Rocha: So Otis Pifer: you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited, Brian Rocha: I Otis Pifer: to to build in menus in the screen. Brian Rocha: No. Otis Pifer: So on a scale from one to seven, what do you Billy Koch: Two Otis Pifer: think? Billy Koch: or three. Otis Pifer: Huh? Billy Koch: Two or three. Otis Pifer: Two or three? Something like that? Well we Gerald Levy: Two. Otis Pifer: have Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: to choose one. So uh what do you say? Gerald Levy: Uh y Otis Pifer: I agree Gerald Levy: we should Otis Pifer: on two. Gerald Levy: fill this in now. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah okay. Otis Pifer: I Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: uh I say two, personally. But Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah in Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: the Brian Rocha: alright. Gerald Levy: new design I s would say it's three. But now, in original design I say Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: two. Otis Pifer: well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now. Gerald Levy: Okay then I say three. Otis Pifer: Yeah? You say three, Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: and you you Brian Rocha: yeah. Otis Pifer: said al also three? Three? Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Okay well I say still two, but it has to be three then. Gerald Levy: Hey, you're marketing, eh. Otis Pifer: Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's Gerald Levy: Hmm. Otis Pifer: nah, it's Gerald Levy: M Otis Pifer: not very Gerald Levy: maybe Otis Pifer: clear Gerald Levy: underline. Otis Pifer: on the sc Billy Koch: Or give it a colour. Otis Pifer: Maybe other colour, yeah. That's better. Uh Gerald Levy: Red. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Alright. Oh, it doesn't have to be bold anymore. Alright. Gerald Levy: Oh yeah very true. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah true one. Otis Pifer: Um well the remote Gerald Levy: He Otis Pifer: control Gerald Levy: types everything. Otis Pifer: has Wha Brian Rocha: Definitely one. Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: It has to be. Otis Pifer: The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings Billy Koch: It Otis Pifer: and Billy Koch: hides Otis Pifer: screen settings. Billy Koch: uh Gerald Levy: Everything. Billy Koch: basic functions. Gerald Levy: You don't Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: use anything Otis Pifer: Well, Gerald Levy: else. Otis Pifer: yeah. So Brian Rocha: You're Otis Pifer: it Brian Rocha: not gonna Otis Pifer: it's Brian Rocha: find Otis Pifer: a very Brian Rocha: them. Otis Pifer: true point. I mean Gerald Levy: Yeah. Yeah Otis Pifer: it hides Gerald Levy: okay. Otis Pifer: all those function. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah Otis Pifer: But, I mean Billy Koch: true. Otis Pifer: uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them, you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: F I don't know where. So that's very true, I guess, for our case. Uh Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: the Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: second Brian Rocha: next Otis Pifer: point. Brian Rocha: Not so much Otis Pifer: It Brian Rocha: so. Otis Pifer: shows the relevant and most used functions. Gerald Levy: Nope. Otis Pifer: Power button. Do we ha still have a power button? Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: Well yeah the button's integrated, Gerald Levy: check with the Otis Pifer: huh? Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Excel sheet. Billy Koch: I think Brian Rocha: Yeah Billy Koch: we Brian Rocha: it's Billy Koch: are Brian Rocha: uh it's integrated. Otis Pifer: Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push Billy Koch: It's Otis Pifer: it Billy Koch: in Otis Pifer: in Billy Koch: Oh Otis Pifer: for Billy Koch: yeah it was integrateds. Gerald Levy: Yeah Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: integrate Otis Pifer: just just Gerald Levy: it. Otis Pifer: push it in for th for three seconds or something, and then Brian Rocha: E exactly Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: just like a m Otis Pifer: I Brian Rocha: mobile. Otis Pifer: don't Gerald Levy: Just go scrolling and it Otis Pifer: know. Gerald Levy: will Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: activate. Otis Pifer: Um it shows the relevant and most used functions. Yeah uh on the other uh on one side I would say yes, and the other side I would say no. So it's I don't know. Gerald Levy: It shows the most used functions and they are relevant, Billy Koch: Can you uh Gerald Levy: but Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: change channels directly with with just one button? No, you have to Otis Pifer: With Billy Koch: scroll Otis Pifer: the scroll Billy Koch: through Otis Pifer: butt Billy Koch: the menu, before Otis Pifer: Yeah and then say channel. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: And then Billy Koch: So it's Brian Rocha: Well Billy Koch: it's Brian Rocha: uh we Billy Koch: not Brian Rocha: should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something, if When it's on, yeah, it's Otis Pifer: Hmm? Gerald Levy: You Brian Rocha: turned Gerald Levy: say Brian Rocha: on, Gerald Levy: you double click on the Brian Rocha: It automatically Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: has the the programme and the volume function, but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Of you Or you double click Otis Pifer: But Brian Rocha: it. Otis Pifer: but how do you change from volume to channel? Brian Rocha: No because it has four arrows, right? Gerald Levy: No, not Billy Koch: No. Gerald Levy: anymore. Otis Pifer: No. Gerald Levy: Because he's Brian Rocha: Oh Gerald Levy: now have Brian Rocha: yeah. Gerald Levy: a scroll-wheel Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: that you can push in. Brian Rocha: Yeah Gerald Levy: Like Brian Rocha: I was Gerald Levy: on Brian Rocha: thinking Gerald Levy: the the mouse. Brian Rocha: still about our uh integrated joystick. Otis Pifer: No we have n we have no buttons left. So Brian Rocha: Say. Otis Pifer: the joystick was not an option. Brian Rocha: Yeah that Otis Pifer: So Brian Rocha: is a bummer. Otis Pifer: so Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: you hav So you you have to double-click, I mean, for, I mean, uh Gerald Levy: To Otis Pifer: volume, Gerald Levy: get into menu. Otis Pifer: and three Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: double click for the menu, or something. Billy Koch: Oh no. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Or hold it ten Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: seconds. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Alright. Brian Rocha: We'll make it a Morse code. Otis Pifer: But but ease of use was not very important, may I remind Gerald Levy: No no Otis Pifer: you. Gerald Levy: no. Otis Pifer: So Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: that's Gerald Levy: it should be trendy. Otis Pifer: Yeah but that that's not a question. Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions. Well I think it's pretty much in the middle. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Four. Otis Pifer: You have to search for them in in the Gerald Levy: Yeah, im in the menu. Otis Pifer: in the s in the screen, in the menu. So Brian Rocha: Yeah. Billy Koch: Seven. Otis Pifer: So maybe it's more like a f a five. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Or Brian Rocha: Yeah Billy Koch: Five. Brian Rocha: I would go for five or six, yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Five or six? Gerald Levy: Five. Brian Rocha: Okay Billy Koch: Five. Brian Rocha: five. Billy Koch: Yep. Otis Pifer: Five? Alright. Brian Rocha: Let's not diss our remote. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: It's the weirdest Otis Pifer: Oh. Gerald Levy: remote control I've ever seen. So Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yep. Just one button. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Well Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: it's Otis Pifer: Uh Gerald Levy: different. Otis Pifer: the the Brian Rocha: But Otis Pifer: remote Brian Rocha: Uh Otis Pifer: control Brian Rocha: yep. Otis Pifer: makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: recognition. Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition. Gerald Levy: Yeah, Otis Pifer: But Gerald Levy: it's Otis Pifer: it Gerald Levy: still Otis Pifer: has at least one innovation. Gerald Levy: Yeah, I say two. Otis Pifer: I say two Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: then. Brian Rocha: We still have the fruit and vegetable print. Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: Oh, Otis Pifer: but Gerald Levy: that's Brian Rocha: Fr Gerald Levy: the Brian Rocha: Oh Gerald Levy: next. Brian Rocha: I Otis Pifer: that that's Brian Rocha: mean Otis Pifer: not Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: that's not this question. Brian Rocha: Oh Otis Pifer: Uh Brian Rocha: never Otis Pifer: thi Brian Rocha: mind. Otis Pifer: uh that's the other question. Brian Rocha: I'm a bit lost. Otis Pifer: This one. Billy Koch: I think a two. Gerald Levy: Two. Otis Pifer: Two Billy Koch: No. Otis Pifer: yeah. I think Billy Koch: Yep. Otis Pifer: L_C_D_'s more useful than speech Gerald Levy: Yeah Otis Pifer: What? Gerald Levy: definitely. Otis Pifer: Oh not the bold one. Brian Rocha: It's way more practical, yeah. Otis Pifer: Right. Okay, it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints, primary colours and sponge-like material. It should have Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: been two questions. I realise now, because sponge-like material is dropped. But the look and feel Gerald Levy: You Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: still have rubber d Brian Rocha: So we still Gerald Levy: Or no. Brian Rocha: uh Billy Koch: No Brian Rocha: we still Billy Koch: you got Brian Rocha: have the Billy Koch: a Brian Rocha: primary Billy Koch: plastic. Brian Rocha: colours. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: But only Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: on the on the outside, not on the button. Otis Pifer: The button has also colour. Brian Rocha: Yeah? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Okay. Gerald Levy: The one button we have. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: The Brian Rocha: still Otis Pifer: one. Brian Rocha: we we dropped also on the the double uh curve. Gerald Levy: Yeah you Otis Pifer: Mm Gerald Levy: could check Otis Pifer: mm. Gerald Levy: with the Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Excel sheet. Billy Koch: You Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: only Otis Pifer: we have Billy Koch: have Otis Pifer: single Billy Koch: one Otis Pifer: curve now, Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: And Otis Pifer: and no Brian Rocha: and colour. Otis Pifer: and no material. Brian Rocha: Yeah. S Otis Pifer: So maybe in the middle or Billy Koch: Four. Otis Pifer: something. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah, I mean it's Gerald Levy: Yeah or three. Otis Pifer: worth Brian Rocha: Uh Otis Pifer: the Yeah. Gerald Levy: We have Brian Rocha: Actually Gerald Levy: something. Brian Rocha: we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one, uh with little curve on the side, and in a different colour. Still, it's still Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: hard. I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape, that would give it something young and Gerald Levy: New. Brian Rocha: fresh. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. But then we would have to drop Billy Koch: Red. Otis Pifer: the screen. Oh red. Yeah. Gerald Levy: You like both. Otis Pifer: Yeah. I like bold. Uh the remote control displays the corporate logo. Gerald Levy: Um oh yeah. Billy Koch: Mm yeah Brian Rocha: Of course. Billy Koch: yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: I Otis Pifer: You just Gerald Levy: just Otis Pifer: have to draw Gerald Levy: couldn't Otis Pifer: it. Gerald Levy: Um, just one minute. Brian Rocha: Yeah but it Billy Koch: It's the white Brian Rocha: be Billy Koch: part Brian Rocha: because Billy Koch: uh Brian Rocha: uh we couldn't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen, we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: So Billy Koch: We have a we Brian Rocha: I Gerald Levy: So Brian Rocha: mean Billy Koch: have a Brian Rocha: I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But Otis Pifer: But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean, if Brian Rocha: Hell Otis Pifer: there's only Brian Rocha: yeah. Otis Pifer: one Brian Rocha: If we Otis Pifer: thing. Brian Rocha: have only one button. Otis Pifer: Yeah. So I will say that is very true. Billy Koch: Mm-hmm. Brian Rocha: And even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an R_ and the reversed R_, doesn't it? Otis Pifer: Yeah. The Brian Rocha: So Otis Pifer: remote control is easy to use. Well I would say Brian Rocha: No. Otis Pifer: Skill, uh I would say six, or something. I don't think it's easy to use, or not Brian Rocha: The only Otis Pifer: so. Billy Koch: Ah Brian Rocha: e the only Billy Koch: i Brian Rocha: thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: 'Cause it has only Billy Koch: And Brian Rocha: one Billy Koch: that Brian Rocha: button. Billy Koch: you only have to control one button. Brian Rocha: Yeah exactly. Otis Pifer: Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But Yeah. Billy Koch: It gives visual feedback. So Otis Pifer: Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six. Brian Rocha: I would Billy Koch: I think Brian Rocha: say six. Billy Koch: a five. Five. Otis Pifer: What do you say? Easy Brian Rocha: It's Otis Pifer: to use? Brian Rocha: really not Otis Pifer: Five Brian Rocha: easy Otis Pifer: or a Brian Rocha: to Otis Pifer: six? Brian Rocha: use. 'Cause Gerald Levy: No Brian Rocha: you're putting Gerald Levy: not Brian Rocha: everything Gerald Levy: anymore. Otis Pifer: So a six, more. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah, uh I would go for the six too. Billy Koch: Okay. Yeah. Otis Pifer: So Brian Rocha: Most votes count. Um Otis Pifer: Um Billy Koch: Yeah that Otis Pifer: well, Billy Koch: looks uh great. Otis Pifer: another question, uh the remote control is durable. I don't know if that's the correct Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: word. Brian Rocha: Definitely Otis Pifer: But Billy Koch: Nah Otis Pifer: uh Brian Rocha: in casing, Otis Pifer: In Brian Rocha: 'cause Otis Pifer: use, Brian Rocha: we have a hard Otis Pifer: both Brian Rocha: plastic Otis Pifer: battery as casing? Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah? Brian Rocha: Yeah because the the batteries, those thingies last forever. Otis Pifer: True, true. Brian Rocha: And the Otis Pifer: And the casing is plastic, Brian Rocha: the casing, hard plastic also lasts forever. Billy Koch: Yep. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: If you don't drop it too much, it's Brian Rocha: So Otis Pifer: uh should last pretty long. Brian Rocha: I would go for one. Otis Pifer: Yeah? But uh I think rubber compared Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: is better. Billy Koch: S Otis Pifer: So I think a two is more appropriate Billy Koch: Yep. Brian Rocha: Okay yeah. Otis Pifer: than Billy Koch: Wow. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Logo. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Okay I will go go for two. Uh the last one? The remote control's a good example for company's motto, we put Brian Rocha: Oh. Otis Pifer: the fashion in electronics. Brian Rocha: No m Billy Koch: No we put the electronics into the fashion. Otis Pifer: uh turn around. Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah Brian Rocha: I Otis Pifer: But Brian Rocha: would Otis Pifer: um Gerald Levy: well Brian Rocha: g Gerald Levy: yeah. Brian Rocha: I would go for four. Otis Pifer: Yeah? Gerald Levy: No Brian Rocha: Because we Otis Pifer: It's Brian Rocha: kind Otis Pifer: not Brian Rocha: of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have. Otis Pifer: Yeah, true. Gerald Levy: Yeah okay. Otis Pifer: So a four. It's it g it g goes, it's not the best we could do, Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: I guess. But it all has to do with the budget, because it's it's not the bad idea we had, so Brian Rocha: Yeah. Yeah yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah, four Otis Pifer: Alright, Billy Koch: is okay. Otis Pifer: yeah. Right. Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: So Brian Rocha: That's it. Otis Pifer: if I understood it right, we have to count these numbers. Gerald Levy: Ooh. And Otis Pifer: Uh Gerald Levy: Yeah? What? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Oh Alright. Word document, the Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah Gerald Levy: That Otis Pifer: we have to count them. Gerald Levy: Count them. Otis Pifer: Uh Gerald Levy: Add them? Or Otis Pifer: Yeah just add them and then uh Gerald Levy: Could Otis Pifer: divide Gerald Levy: somebody start Otis Pifer: them. Gerald Levy: calculator? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Mm. I Brian Rocha: Ah Otis Pifer: all made Brian Rocha: we can Otis Pifer: it Brian Rocha: do Otis Pifer: po Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: I Brian Rocha: math. Otis Pifer: I all made it I all made it Brian Rocha: Uh Otis Pifer: possible uh for a positive questions, Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: so we can count it. I mean if you have reversed Gerald Levy: Yeah, Otis Pifer: question, Gerald Levy: yeah. Otis Pifer: you have to Gerald Levy: You Otis Pifer: reverse Gerald Levy: have to Otis Pifer: the scale, uh Gerald Levy: 'Kay. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yes. Gerald Levy: So four and Brian Rocha: Did you make this questionnaire or what? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Thanks. Gerald Levy: Nice work. Billy Koch: Okay. Brian Rocha: Oh. Billy Koch: Three plus? Brian Rocha: I wouldn't be able to Gerald Levy: O Brian Rocha: do Gerald Levy: one. Brian Rocha: it that fast. Billy Koch: Plus one. Gerald Levy: Plus five. Billy Koch: Plus five? Gerald Levy: Bo Otis Pifer: Oh Easy. Question number four, yeah? Gerald Levy: Uh two. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: F Gerald Levy: Four. Billy Koch: Oh. Wait a second. Oh. It's it's gone wrong. Otis Pifer: How hard is it? Billy Koch: Okay. It's your Brian Rocha: Pretty Billy Koch: turn. Brian Rocha: difficult. Otis Pifer: Yeah just Gerald Levy: Start Otis Pifer: use Billy Koch: No it's Gerald Levy: over? Billy Koch: if you press Otis Pifer: Oh there tho Billy Koch: twice Otis Pifer: uh there's Billy Koch: on the Otis Pifer: no Billy Koch: plus Otis Pifer: n Billy Koch: button, then you Otis Pifer: There's Billy Koch: get Otis Pifer: no num Billy Koch: s s Otis Pifer: pads. Gerald Levy: You can Billy Koch: No. Gerald Levy: Oh yeah. Billy Koch: That's why it's uh Otis Pifer: It's a it's a bit uh Brian Rocha: Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right? And then you can count them together. Otis Pifer: Yeah. I think you can Billy Koch: Just Otis Pifer: just Billy Koch: count Otis Pifer: count Billy Koch: it Otis Pifer: them Billy Koch: to Otis Pifer: by a Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Um let's move Gerald Levy: Okay. Otis Pifer: over. Three, plus one, Gerald Levy: Three, four, Otis Pifer: four. Nine. Gerald Levy: nine. Uh Otis Pifer: Uh, yeah. Are you here? Eleven. Brian Rocha: Eleven. Gerald Levy: Eleven, Brian Rocha: Fifteen. Otis Pifer: Fifteen. Gerald Levy: fifteen. Billy Koch: Sixteen. Brian Rocha: Sixteen. Otis Pifer: Sixteen, yeah. Brian Rocha: Seventeen. Gerald Levy: Seventeen. Otis Pifer: No sixteen. Uh sixteen plus Brian Rocha: Oh Otis Pifer: six. Brian Rocha: what? Billy Koch: Twenty two. Gerald Levy: S Otis Pifer: Twenty Brian Rocha: How Otis Pifer: two. Brian Rocha: hard is this? Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: Twenty two, yeah? Brian Rocha: Never Billy Koch: Twenty four. Brian Rocha: mind. Otis Pifer: Tw Brian Rocha: Twenty four. Billy Koch: Twenty six. Brian Rocha: Twenty eight. Billy Koch: Oh, Otis Pifer: Twenty Billy Koch: sorry. Otis Pifer: Twenty eight. Billy Koch: Oh my. Gerald Levy: That was the last one. That was Brian Rocha: Twenty Gerald Levy: that. Brian Rocha: eight. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Okay. Twenty eight. Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: Twen Uh okay. Gerald Levy: divided by nine. Otis Pifer: By nine. Billy Koch: Hmm. Otis Pifer: That's uh three uh Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: Or Brian Rocha: Yeah the Otis Pifer: le Brian Rocha: lower Otis Pifer: less Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: than a three. Brian Rocha: The lower the score the better, right? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Twenty Brian Rocha: Yeah but Otis Pifer: eight Gerald Levy: Divided Otis Pifer: di Gerald Levy: by nine. Otis Pifer: divided by nine Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: makes Gerald Levy: thr t Otis Pifer: three Gerald Levy: two. Otis Pifer: point one one one one one Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: one Gerald Levy: we're Otis Pifer: one. Gerald Levy: better than average. Brian Rocha: But Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: I Are you sure we this number actually tells us somethings? Gerald Levy: No. Brian Rocha: I don't think so because some Billy Koch: Some Brian Rocha: questions Billy Koch: questions are Brian Rocha: are Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: related to positive issues and some to negative. So if you give a true to a positive, it actually means that the low the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question Otis Pifer: Yeah, but there are no negative questions I guess. Brian Rocha: No? Otis Pifer: Good example. Durable Brian Rocha: Durable, Otis Pifer: use. Brian Rocha: that's good. Otis Pifer: Easy to use. Brian Rocha: Easy to use. Otis Pifer: This is good. Fancy look and feel, that's good. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Technology innovation was Brian Rocha: Also Otis Pifer: good, because Brian Rocha: good. Otis Pifer: of a marketing uh requirement. Re Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: relevant Brian Rocha: okay. Otis Pifer: most used function. Brian Rocha: I guess you Otis Pifer: And Brian Rocha: did do it. Otis Pifer: hides these functions. That was also a good thing. Billy Koch: Oh yeah. Yeah. Brian Rocha: Oh yeah Otis Pifer: And Brian Rocha: yeah. Otis Pifer: then matches Brian Rocha: No Otis Pifer: the opera of the user was also Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: a good thing. Brian Rocha: Okay. Otis Pifer: So it Brian Rocha: Okay. Otis Pifer: were all positive questions, Brian Rocha: Yeah true. Otis Pifer: by uh by purpose. So Yes, so the It tells us something, yes. Becau But Billy Koch: Oh Otis Pifer: the Billy Koch: great. Otis Pifer: picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh Gerald Levy: Things, Otis Pifer: those Gerald Levy: yeah. Otis Pifer: things, Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: I guess. Brian Rocha: definitely definitely. Gerald Levy: Okay. Brian Rocha: Because now it's just an average Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: It's remote. Otis Pifer: Nah it it's it's better than average, but Brian Rocha: Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: uh Otis Pifer: So Brian Rocha: it Otis Pifer: th Brian Rocha: looks Gerald Levy: It's still Brian Rocha: and stuff, it still Gerald Levy: yeah. Brian Rocha: uh Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Has Brian Rocha: it's Gerald Levy: some Brian Rocha: not, Gerald Levy: shortcomings. Brian Rocha: it's not really eye-catching, except for Otis Pifer: No. Brian Rocha: the colour. Otis Pifer: The colour and the screen. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Okay so Um this we had, this we had. Brian Rocha: Product Gerald Levy: We have Brian Rocha: evaluation. Gerald Levy: to do a product evaluation. Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that, but Otis Pifer: Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this Billy Koch: Okay Brian Rocha: Shall Billy Koch: it's your Brian Rocha: we try? Billy Koch: turn now. Gerald Levy: So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen. Brian Rocha: Black. Otis Pifer: With some casing around it, yeah. Brian Rocha: Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours? Gerald Levy: Yeah Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: uh Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue? Billy Koch: Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh Gerald Levy: The the button has Billy Koch: uh Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: a special Billy Koch: the green Gerald Levy: colour, the Billy Koch: uh he only Gerald Levy: frame Billy Koch: needs Gerald Levy: has a special colour. Billy Koch: one button. Brian Rocha: One scroll Gerald Levy: It's Brian Rocha: button Gerald Levy: plastic. Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: and Billy Koch: Or we have to delete this one Gerald Levy: And Billy Koch: or Gerald Levy: single curved. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED. Otis Pifer: Oh yeah. Billy Koch: Oh oh no. Brian Rocha: For Gerald Levy: Otherwise Brian Rocha: what? Gerald Levy: it uh doesn't function uh Billy Koch: Okay. Gerald Levy: so well. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: So that's Otis Pifer: Do we have to do other things? Gerald Levy: Well Otis Pifer: Or just redesign? Gerald Levy: I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far. Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: So I Otis Pifer: So you made a start, right? Gerald Levy: Yeah I'm I'm somewhere, but maybe Brian Rocha: Should Gerald Levy: you Brian Rocha: give Gerald Levy: can Brian Rocha: it Gerald Levy: help Brian Rocha: some Gerald Levy: Otis Pifer. Brian Rocha: time? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yay. Gerald Levy: Uh Billy Koch: Okay, but how do we make the the scroll Gerald Levy: I was here. Billy Koch: uh button? Gerald Levy: So Billy Koch: It's just one Brian Rocha: Have to Otis Pifer: Alright. Brian Rocha: take this away also. Billy Koch: yeah. Gerald Levy: Ah Brian Rocha: And this um Billy Koch: Uh that's the infrared uh Brian Rocha: Oh Billy Koch: thing. Otis Pifer: The Brian Rocha: yeah, Otis Pifer: the Brian Rocha: of course. Otis Pifer: target group has a Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: weak Brian Rocha: Um Otis Pifer: spot for fruit Brian Rocha: pen Otis Pifer: and vegetables, Brian Rocha: yeah? Otis Pifer: like primary Brian Rocha: Format. Otis Pifer: colours, spongy shape. Brian Rocha: Current Otis Pifer: The Brian Rocha: colour Otis Pifer: playfulness, Brian Rocha: red. Otis Pifer: we decided to use kinetic Brian Rocha: Oh Otis Pifer: energy as a power Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: sour Brian Rocha: we did our special colour for Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: the Otis Pifer: Okay. Brian Rocha: Line Otis Pifer: That's Brian Rocha: widths, Otis Pifer: conceptual, Brian Rocha: now that's Otis Pifer: yes. Brian Rocha: a ten. Gerald Levy: That's enough to get started Billy Koch: Yeah. Um, Gerald Levy: with, Billy Koch: uh it's Otis Pifer: Mm. Billy Koch: just a Brian Rocha: It's gonna Billy Koch: scroll Brian Rocha: be one str Otis Pifer: How Gerald Levy: so Otis Pifer: many Brian Rocha: scroll. Billy Koch: Yeah, is Otis Pifer: pages? Billy Koch: it's horizontal or vertical? Gerald Levy: Uh, I just took one for every step Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: and then Billy Koch: I think Gerald Levy: a Otis Pifer: Y Gerald Levy: conclusion. Otis Pifer: you have Brian Rocha: Horizontal's Otis Pifer: you have done the Brian Rocha: easier Otis Pifer: first two. Brian Rocha: too, Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: 'cause you Otis Pifer: Okay, Brian Rocha: can Otis Pifer: and and the look Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: and feel is Brian Rocha: Is it more natural Gerald Levy: Well Brian Rocha: than this? Gerald Levy: I think I have to make a p Brian Rocha: So Gerald Levy: an Brian Rocha: let's Gerald Levy: issue Brian Rocha: say Gerald Levy: called finance. Brian Rocha: Whoops. 'Kay. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yes. Brian Rocha: Basically. Billy Koch: It doesn't Otis Pifer: The items Billy Koch: look like Otis Pifer: we had Billy Koch: uh Otis Pifer: to drop. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Billy Koch: Uh it it's it's not Yeah. It's not very fashionable anymore. But uh it's okay. Brian Rocha: It's really ugly. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Where did we start with price? Twenty Billy Koch: Maybe Otis Pifer: six Billy Koch: m make Otis Pifer: and a half. Billy Koch: it bigger? Or Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: Or not? Or twenty six? Something like that. Billy Koch: Yeah. That looks little bit more uh Maybe Brian Rocha: Oh Billy Koch: that's a s a special colour for it. Otis Pifer: This? Billy Koch: So we can make it uh special? Brian Rocha: What do you mean? Like a other colour than this one? Billy Koch: Or or speckles in it? I dunno. Uh Otis Pifer: Speckles? Brian Rocha: Yeah can we do it uh uh can we do a print? Billy Koch: I'm not sure. Brian Rocha: I think we Gerald Levy: ... I. Brian Rocha: have Gerald Levy: don't Brian Rocha: to choose, Gerald Levy: think so, Brian Rocha: yeah? Gerald Levy: if you see Otis Pifer: Uh Gerald Levy: the options. But Brian Rocha: Okay special colour. We do have special colour. Does it Billy Koch: Yeah Brian Rocha: mean uh Billy Koch: red Brian Rocha: that Billy Koch: is already a special colour, I think. So It's Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: not very special, but uh Brian Rocha: Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty? Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Purdy. Billy Koch: Just Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: uh Otis Pifer: Some Billy Koch: put the Otis Pifer: some Billy Koch: purple Otis Pifer: big dots. Billy Koch: uh purple on it. Brian Rocha: Purple? Billy Koch: That's trendy. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah yeah. Oh no Otis Pifer: ... We. have the Brian Rocha: my Otis Pifer: original Brian Rocha: remote Otis Pifer: balance Brian Rocha: has acne. Otis Pifer: sheet, or Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Woah. Brian Rocha: No. That's why we have that button. Billy Koch: Oh yeah. Brian Rocha: It's so cute. Billy Koch: Hmm. Oh what? Brian Rocha: Doh. Otis Pifer: Woah. Just cut. Control Z_. Billy Koch: Oh no. Brian Rocha: Is that that? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: No no. Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: How the Billy Koch: Oh it's Brian Rocha: We Billy Koch: it's just Brian Rocha: did we do Billy Koch: one Brian Rocha: that? Billy Koch: computer? Otis Pifer: Just Billy Koch: Or Otis Pifer: dual screen. Billy Koch: No. But can we delete it, just with delete? Or Brian Rocha: We can try. That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's Billy Koch: Crashed. Brian Rocha: No, Billy Koch: Oh, no. Otis Pifer: Very Billy Koch: Okay. Otis Pifer: nice. Brian Rocha: Where do you want some more dots? Billy Koch: Yeah, over here. Hmm? Gerald Levy: You can't even draw anymore. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Even Billy Koch: What's Otis Pifer: Y y Gerald Levy: children Billy Koch: this? Otis Pifer: you Gerald Levy: can draw. Otis Pifer: you you push the button or something. Or Gerald Levy: Can you just push Billy Koch: Oh Gerald Levy: pen Billy Koch: yeah. Gerald Levy: and then Billy Koch: Oh Gerald Levy: keep Billy Koch: that's Gerald Levy: on Billy Koch: the select button. It's Gerald Levy: Hmm. Billy Koch: uh Brian Rocha: Okay, it's not the prettiest, I know. Billy Koch: No, Brian Rocha: It's Billy Koch: it Otis Pifer: Lot Brian Rocha: not Billy Koch: looks Brian Rocha: so Otis Pifer: of options. Brian Rocha: random huh? Billy Koch: It's okay. Specially the the R_. Otis Pifer: Yeah, the R_ and another R_. Brian Rocha: Yeah okay. Otis Pifer: It's called the Real Remote, right? Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote. Gerald Levy: Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Welcome. Brian Rocha: We can make Gerald Levy: This Brian Rocha: a Gerald Levy: is Brian Rocha: l Gerald Levy: your Brian Rocha: a logo. Gerald Levy: Real Remote. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Yeah. Brian Rocha: Like uh Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: put it like the shape. Billy Koch: D designed by Brian Rocha: Something like that. Billy Koch: Okay. Brian Rocha: I mean it's not too uh That's not their logo, is it? Billy Koch: No. Do they have a lo Oh, the here. This i this is the logo. Brian Rocha: Yeah. It's Billy Koch: Two Brian Rocha: a Billy Koch: R_s and a one. Gerald Levy: Yeah. You can just reuse that, because the name is the same. Otis Pifer: You can copy Gerald Levy: Initials. Otis Pifer: and paste the picture if you want. Brian Rocha: How Shall we do the logo in black or not? Gerald Levy: Mm. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. What is that? Look more Looks more like a campfire. Brian Rocha: Are you dissing my drawing? This one? Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: It looks like a ribbon. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Okay. Brian Rocha: So who wants to draw? This is actually quite fun. Do we need to do anything? I hear you Billy Koch: Are Brian Rocha: people Billy Koch: we uh ready? Brian Rocha: are typing. Billy Koch: Uh Or Otis Pifer: Type in your report. Brian Rocha: Oh, okay. Otis Pifer: I don't see any new messages. So Gerald Levy: Luckily. Otis Pifer: Hmm? Luckily, yeah. Billy Koch: Is this uh the last assignment? Or Gerald Levy: Yeah, it's uh Billy Koch: Final Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: It's almost four. Otis Pifer: What time do we have to deliver the report? Four o'clock or Brian Rocha: At four, yeah, Otis Pifer: Or before that? Gerald Levy: Okay. Otis Pifer: Just Gerald Levy: And Otis Pifer: compare Gerald Levy: copy this. Otis Pifer: uh Gerald Levy: Just a minute. Brian Rocha: This is really bizarre. Gerald Levy: It's Brian Rocha: It looks like there's a It looks Billy Koch: Um Brian Rocha: like Billy Koch: bug. Brian Rocha: a butterfly. Billy Koch: Bug. Gerald Levy: It's somewhere I Billy Koch: No Gerald Levy: d Billy Koch: it's Gerald Levy: It Billy Koch: in inside Gerald Levy: isn't inside. Billy Koch: the Gerald Levy: Yeah, and don't know how it's Otis Pifer: No it's Gerald Levy: or Otis Pifer: on Gerald Levy: eject Otis Pifer: the on Gerald Levy: it. Otis Pifer: the beamer I guess. Billy Koch: No it Oh. Brian Rocha: No, but it Gerald Levy: From Brian Rocha: i Gerald Levy: up there? Brian Rocha: It's not a bu a beamer. Gerald Levy: No. Brian Rocha: B It's a normal T_V_ screen, kind of thing. Billy Koch: Hey, Gerald Levy: Yeah it's Billy Koch: you've Gerald Levy: somewhere Billy Koch: got it Gerald Levy: in Billy Koch: uh Gerald Levy: here. Billy Koch: read only. So you have to uh Gerald Levy: Save copy. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: from behind, I guess. Billy Koch: It's too uh Brian Rocha: Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think. Gerald Levy: Yes. Otis Pifer: Yeah it it's a beamer, but then with Brian Rocha: With Otis Pifer: a within Brian Rocha: a Otis Pifer: a Brian Rocha: with a mirror, huh? Otis Pifer: mirror, Brian Rocha: Or something. Otis Pifer: yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: So it looks like a big screen, but in fact it isn't. Brian Rocha: So are we gonna Billy Koch: It Brian Rocha: change Billy Koch: is Brian Rocha: anything to this? I mean is Otis Pifer: Well Brian Rocha: it gonna Otis Pifer: it's it's Gerald Levy: Well Otis Pifer: single single Billy Koch: It's Otis Pifer: curved. Billy Koch: now single curved. So Otis Pifer: Th this Brian Rocha: This Otis Pifer: is Brian Rocha: is Billy Koch: It's Otis Pifer: flat. Brian Rocha: gonna be Billy Koch: flat. Brian Rocha: flat. Yeah Billy Koch: Oh Brian Rocha: exactly. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: no. Okay. It doesn't matter. It's Otis Pifer: But it's Billy Koch: it's Otis Pifer: it's better to have in the front, this kind of shape, because it looks nice. I mean you see more of this than of that. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah, more like that. Brian Rocha: Yeah. And this is also gonna be Otis Pifer: It's not very uh ideal. Brian Rocha: Nope. Otis Pifer: Do like this. Brian Rocha: But sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work. Otis Pifer: Yeah. What's this? Billy Koch: That's the detector uh for the Otis Pifer: Ooh. Billy Koch: Okay. Otis Pifer: But Brian Rocha: Maybe Otis Pifer: I don't see a detector over there. Billy Koch: Yeah. I don't know. Brian Rocha: No it's I think you only need two points. Or not. No, Otis Pifer: I Brian Rocha: you sh Otis Pifer: thought it was a kind of thing to put it on, and then draw right Billy Koch: Maybe that's Otis Pifer: lines Billy Koch: why Otis Pifer: or something. Billy Koch: it's it's not working, because it's more Brian Rocha: Slanted yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Or just messed it up. Brian Rocha: Well maybe. Billy Koch: Oh. Oh yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: it it matters for the aim of this Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: thing. Otis Pifer: Yeah but it wasn't good. Billy Koch: You've to make it s uh ninety degrees. Otis Pifer: Yeah it it has to touch the corners, I guess. But th this one wasn't good, because if I was drawing here, I drew a line and then it came over here. Gerald Levy: Um now you probably have to recalibrate. Billy Koch: You have Gerald Levy: Oh, five minutes to the end of the meeting. Otis Pifer: Oh. Billy Koch: Oh we're always Gerald Levy: And Billy Koch: long. Gerald Levy: the recalibration is done using this icon here. Billy Koch: Yeah, Otis Pifer: Ooh. Billy Koch: can we t can we get to that i Oh it's not working anymore. Gerald Levy: Yeah well I just Billy Koch: Oh Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: yeah Otis Pifer: yeah, Billy Koch: yeah Otis Pifer: it's Billy Koch: yeah Otis Pifer: it's Billy Koch: yeah, it's Otis Pifer: okay. Billy Koch: it's working, it's working. Otis Pifer: It's working again. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: It's better than before. Billy Koch: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Okay. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: We're improving uh Yeah. Gerald Levy: You go ahead. Otis Pifer: Yeah Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: that's improved uh pretty much. Brian Rocha: Yeah it's only a bit like to Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: that side, but that is that one by the way. Otis Pifer: Yeah but Brian Rocha: 'Cause Otis Pifer: it's better, Billy Koch: No it Otis Pifer: it's Brian Rocha: this Otis Pifer: better Brian Rocha: one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this, it will go there, Otis Pifer: Mm. Brian Rocha: if I change that, will go there. Otis Pifer: No. It's better than it was I guess. Brian Rocha: Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy. Otis Pifer: Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: meeting's over. And Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: then? We have Gerald Levy: Then Otis Pifer: to present Gerald Levy: I have to uh uh write this, and I don't know if you have to present, because I didn't receive any information about that so far. Otis Pifer: Alright. Brian Rocha: Maybe we will. Gerald Levy: Maybe Otis Pifer: So Gerald Levy: we get Otis Pifer: it Gerald Levy: a Otis Pifer: after Gerald Levy: a final Otis Pifer: the after Gerald Levy: mail. Otis Pifer: after these five minutes, Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: you have to Gerald Levy: Yeah, I have still ten minutes Brian Rocha: What's Gerald Levy: to finish Brian Rocha: this anyway? Gerald Levy: the report. Billy Koch: So Otis Pifer: Alright. Billy Koch: cake. Otis Pifer: After after that five minutes, Brian Rocha: It Otis Pifer: you have Brian Rocha: looks Otis Pifer: ten Brian Rocha: like Otis Pifer: minutes Brian Rocha: candle Otis Pifer: to finish Brian Rocha: wax. Otis Pifer: it, or Gerald Levy: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Alright. And we uh Gerald Levy: And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee Otis Pifer: Right. Gerald Levy: or Otis Pifer: Chill. Gerald Levy: oh no, they don't have beer here so Otis Pifer: Huh. Gerald Levy: you can't celebrate. You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh Otis Pifer: Uh Gerald Levy: over there. Otis Pifer: Yeah? Gerald Levy: The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh Yeah next. Otis Pifer: Next slide. Gerald Levy: Oh yeah, we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly. Otis Pifer: Yeah? Gerald Levy: Uh Otis Pifer: How do you do it? Gerald Levy: Uh well basically what that says, we discuss it and um So Otis Pifer: Alright. Gerald Levy: how were did the project process uh go? Did you, were you all pleased with the process as it was? Or Brian Rocha: Uh Gerald Levy: are there Brian Rocha: th Gerald Levy: uh Brian Rocha: uh do you mean the the interaction between Gerald Levy: Yeah Brian Rocha: us? Gerald Levy: the interaction Brian Rocha: Or Gerald Levy: and the steps we followed, and and so forth. Brian Rocha: Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: it went a bit fast. But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on, the second time I think I did a bit better. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: And the third time yeah, I Otis Pifer: And Brian Rocha: mean Otis Pifer: we move Billy Koch: No. Otis Pifer: more to to working together as team, because Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: at first you you make your individual contribution, and then come here, and you have no idea what the Billy Koch: No. Otis Pifer: others have to make. Brian Rocha: Yeah, yeah yeah Otis Pifer: And then Brian Rocha: yeah. Otis Pifer: finally you have some idea, okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: you will arrange that, and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So The Brian Rocha: Yeah Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: process, Brian Rocha: we Otis Pifer: I mean, the interaction between us became better and better Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: I guess. Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Billy Koch: Especially Brian Rocha: Mm-hmm. Billy Koch: after the first meeting. Otis Pifer: Yeah, Billy Koch: And Otis Pifer: especially if f f if you see uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah. Otis Pifer: meeting Brian Rocha: Definitely. Otis Pifer: I guess. Gerald Levy: Okay and was that due to my leadership? Billy Koch: Yeah yeah yeah. Brian Rocha: Well you did become more assertive the the second time round, so that Gerald Levy: Yeah? Brian Rocha: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: That okay? Brian Rocha: You were more in charge kind of thing. Gerald Levy: Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity? Brian Rocha: I guess so. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Billy Koch: Yeah but Brian Rocha: I mean Billy Koch: only the the financial parts uh Otis Pifer: Li Limiteded Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: afterwards, but If if you don't take that into account, there's plenty Brian Rocha: I Otis Pifer: of room for creativ creativity. Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself, but also in explaining it to the other people, by means of uh Brian Rocha: We were pretty democratic. Otis Pifer: the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like Gerald Levy: So Otis Pifer: that. Gerald Levy: and the uh about the board digital pen? Uh was that Brian Rocha: Yeah. Gerald Levy: helpful or Otis Pifer: Mm Gerald Levy: Ooh. Otis Pifer: uh I think in in essence the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better. I Gerald Levy: Yeah Otis Pifer: mean uh uh Gerald Levy: it Otis Pifer: I've Gerald Levy: works. Otis Pifer: made yeah, uh I've made several notes just to test it, and and just put the pen in into it, and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly. Billy Koch: Yeah. Otis Pifer: So Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Otis Pifer: it it's better a better device than uh than the screen. Brian Rocha: Maybe Yeah. Otis Pifer: But the screen is useful, in essence, but it doesn't work that well. Brian Rocha: It's uh it's The the pen is more intuitive, 'cause we're all used to writing Gerald Levy: Use Brian Rocha: with Gerald Levy: the Brian Rocha: pen. Gerald Levy: pen. Brian Rocha: And uh as I said, uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works, so will take Otis Pifer half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: But once I get to know the program probably, I mean, it looks better, you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style, like we have i the the logo and everything. Gerald Levy: Yeah yeah. Brian Rocha: And Otis Pifer: Yep. Brian Rocha: I don't know. Gerald Levy: Blink. Oh. Otis Pifer: Warning. Finish Billy Koch: Finish Otis Pifer: meeting Billy Koch: meeting. Otis Pifer: now. Gerald Levy: Okay, are are there any new ideas about this? All I think I Otis Pifer: Well, Gerald Levy: didn't Otis Pifer: it Gerald Levy: really receive, Otis Pifer: It's use Gerald Levy: yeah. Otis Pifer: especially useful, I guess, to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff. Gerald Levy: Uh uh Otis Pifer: And and Gerald Levy: w uh S sorry uh Otis Pifer: the screen and stuff like that. Gerald Levy: Mm-hmm. Billy Koch: I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint, so that you can just easily Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for Otis Pifer is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as Billy Koch: Yeah. Brian Rocha: well. You Gerald Levy: Yeah. Brian Rocha: know, you can draw something on Otis Pifer: Yeah. Brian Rocha: the sketch-board and then take it there, or whatever. Otis Pifer: Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to Billy Koch: Yeah Otis Pifer: an Billy Koch: just Otis Pifer: a small Billy Koch: for text, Otis Pifer: audience, and Billy Koch: for Otis Pifer: then Billy Koch: text Otis Pifer: to Billy Koch: it's uh it's okay. But Otis Pifer: Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So Yes. Gerald Levy: Oh. Otis Pifer: Check your email. Gerald Levy: Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire. Otis Pifer: You also. Billy Koch: 'Kay. Gerald Levy: Ah. Woah. Brian Rocha: Alright. Otis Pifer: Right. Gerald Levy: Okay. Billy Koch: Okay. Gerald Levy: Uh okay. Brian Rocha: Alright. Otis Pifer: Yes boss. Brian Rocha: Well, Gerald Levy: That's Brian Rocha: s Gerald Levy: the management. Brian Rocha: see you in a second huh? Otis Pifer: Well see you soon. Billy Koch: Oh. Okay. Gerald Levy: Hope so. Otis Pifer: Yeah. Gerald Levy: Um Brian Rocha: Yeah we have to pull it this way, huh? Wait.	Gerald Levy decided to start by looking at costs instead of the prototype presentation because the original design was too expensive and had to be changed. The group discussed which features should be dropped. The group decided that the LCD screen was integral to their design, but dropped the speech recognition. They decided to drop all the buttons in favour of an integrated scroll push-button, and to use a hand dynamo instead of kinetic energy as a power source. Otis Pifer led the prototype evaluation, based on the new design. The group were satisfied with the overall score of 3.1. Brian Rocha and user interface designer worked on a drawing of the new design, while Gerald Levy and marketing manager worked on the final report. Gerald Levy led an evaluation of the project process. The group thought that they worked well together, especially after the first meeting. They were happy with the room for creativity, but thought they were limited by the budget. They preferred the digital pens to the SMARTboard. They had mixed feelings about using PowerPoint.	3	amisum	train
Chris Frances: Hi. John Daniell: Hi. David Brown: Hello. Chris Frances: Oh. David Brown: Good morning. Chris Frances: Good morning. John Daniell: Morning. Scott Satterfield: Good morning. David Brown: Uh before I start with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um Scott Satterfield: By Big Brother? David Brown: Yeah. Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: This uh These are cameras, so are these. Scott Satterfield: Mm-hmm. David Brown: This thing uh that looks like a pie, are Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: actually all microphones. Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. uh as I can you uh you have placed your laptops uh place where must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Scott Satterfield: Of our faces. David Brown: And Indeed. So they can see our faces. Okay. David Brown: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do, and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end. Okay uh, my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm David Brown. What's your name? Chris Frances: I'm Juergen Toffs I'm Chris Frances. David Brown: User interface, okay. John Daniell: Hi, my uh I'm John Daniell. David Brown: Industrial, yes. Scott Satterfield: I'm uh Tim. Um my function is Scott Satterfield. David Brown: Okay, thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh, yeah, very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original, uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh Yeah, that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote? And why are we going to do it? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it? And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design, how, part two, uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of If it's uh it's possible technical-wise. Uh each stage is uh uh is broken up in two uh two stages, individual work and a meeting. So it's uh it's very straightforward. Okay, the tool training. We have two smart boards. This one is for the presentations, the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had. Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing. So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme. This is called a smart board thing Scott Satterfield: Speaks for David Brown: uh Scott Satterfield: itself. David Brown: Yeah, it speaks for itself. Um and as you uh may have heard, the documents in the shared folder uh can be uh showed on this screen. Not in y the the My Documents. So if you wanna show something, put it in the shared folder. Uh This uh is very straightforward, with the save, the print, the undo, the blank, the select, the pen. Well, I don't uh gonna explain it all, because I think you know uh how it works. Um we must not forget uh everything we draw on here, uh all must be saved. We we may not delete anything. So uh if you have uh drawn something, save it. Never delete it. That's a very important uh thing. Okay. Uh little uh little kinda exercise to uh know each other. At uh the white board on the left. Every uh every one of us uh must draw our favourite animal, and uh tell uh tell us why we uh had uh chosen that animal. Uh important is that we use different colours, and uh different pen widths. Widths. Widths. Scott Satterfield: I have a question. David Brown: Yes? Scott Satterfield: Um this exercise, David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: um did the company board tell you to do it, or uh did you just make it up yourself? David Brown: No no no. It's uh it's uh I I Scott Satterfield: It's David Brown: I Scott Satterfield: part David Brown: must Scott Satterfield: of the David Brown: do Scott Satterfield: introduction, David Brown: it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scott Satterfield: okay. David Brown: 'Cause we uh really don't know each other, and uh it's kinda new. So getting used to each other, we can uh have a little fun then, before we Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: uh dig in really to the hard stuff. That kind of thing. Would you start with drawing your uh favourite Scott Satterfield: Um, David Brown: animal? Scott Satterfield: yeah. I don't know really how it works. But maybe David Brown: Okay, Scott Satterfield: you can David Brown: okay. Scott Satterfield: show us first? David Brown: Yeah, okay. Drawing goes with uh this thing. Do not touch your hand on uh this little uh thingy here. That's uh important. So hold it uh like Scott Satterfield: You David Brown: this. Scott Satterfield: g you get electrocuted or David Brown: Yeah, kinda. So, um You must p p uh push a little uh Good. Because And uh wait uh wait a few seconds. so uh Chris Frances: Ach. David Brown: watch it. Oh yeah. Well I'm gonna paint in the red. Chris Frances: Ooph. David Brown: Oh. That's the background colour. Well, undo. Um The pen? No. One minute please. David Brown: Yeah, that's the one. Well, five. Okay. My favourite animal huh? Scott Satterfield: It's like Pictionary? David Brown: Yeah, you can guess what Scott Satterfield: The David Brown: it is. Scott Satterfield: the one who says it first gets a raise. David Brown: May uh paint uh next. Scott Satterfield: It's a pork? David Brown: No, it's not an orc. You don't see it uh at the ears? Scott Satterfield: Mm yeah, I have it at home. David Brown: You have an orc at home? Chris Frances: Very artistic. David Brown: Thank you. So it's a cat. Scott Satterfield: What's it called? David Brown: Simba. Scott Satterfield: Ah. David Brown: 'Cause uh we have a cat at home and he's called Simba. 'Cause Chris Frances: Okay. David Brown: he looks like the uh the the lion from The Lion King. Scott Satterfield: Miniature David Brown: So we Scott Satterfield: size? David Brown: uh found it kinda cool to uh name it after a lion. Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: He's happy with us, so uh he's smiling. Chris Frances: Wow. He does have body uh David Brown: No, only the face. Because Chris Frances: Huh. David Brown: we have we have twen twenty five minutes. Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: So we uh Scott Satterfield: We have to speed up. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Remember you use uh different colours, and different pen widths. David Brown: Yeah. Okay, who wants to go next? Scott Satterfield: I Okay. David Brown: Yeah? So choose a colour, choose a pen width and draw a Chris Frances: You don't have to change the colour and the pen width during Scott Satterfield: Save it. Chris Frances: uh the drawing. Or David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: You have to save it. David Brown: Save it, okay. Scott Satterfield: I've done it. New? 'Kay. Chris Frances: You have to draw uh push hard on the pen or uh Scott Satterfield: Mm uh Not really. Um David Brown: Kind of firm touch. Scott Satterfield: That one. Chris Frances: Oh. Uh hmm. Scott Satterfield: Yeah? Okay. Open. Which one is it? Smart board? Okay. Chris Frances: Okay. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: And now? Scott Satterfield: Okay. Okay, thanks. 'Kay, I've speed up. 'Kay, that's fine. Line width. John Daniell: By the way, why was your cat uh red? David Brown: Because uh my cat is red uh John Daniell: Oh, David Brown: at Chris Frances: Oh. David Brown: home. John Daniell: okay. David Brown: And I have red hair, so uh Chris Frances: It's John Daniell: Oh, Chris Frances: a very John Daniell: yeah, Chris Frances: bloody John Daniell: sure. Chris Frances: cat. David Brown: must be red. Chris Frances: It's a frog. John Daniell: No, it's a turtle. Scott Satterfield: It's not an apple. John Daniell: Must be a dog. Chris Frances: A dog? John Daniell: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Hmm. Colour. Something like this. Smaller. Chris Frances: Huh? Oh, it is a turtle. David Brown: It is a turtle. Why a turtle? Why? Tim? Scott Satterfield: Um 'Cause I liked Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles. David Brown: You watched it a lot? Scott Satterfield: Uh? David Brown: You watched it a lot? Chris Frances: It's uh inside its shell. You'll be uh finished Scott Satterfield: No, Chris Frances: sooner. Scott Satterfield: it's uh David Brown: It's a scared turtle. Scott Satterfield: No no. It's coming up. Mm. Uh. Chris Frances: Wow. David Brown: Okay, Scott Satterfield: Something David Brown: Tim. Scott Satterfield: like this. David Brown: Thank you. Scott Satterfield: Okay, you know Very artistic. David Brown: Jurgen, you want to go next? Chris Frances: Yes. Okay. Scott Satterfield: Yeah? Chris Frances: Wha Thank you. Scott Satterfield: Here you go. Chris Frances: Yeah. Um How did it work? David Brown: Format? Chris Frances: Performance? David Brown: And then you have the the current colour, you can change. So no red or green. Chris Frances: And a pen? David Brown: And uh line uh width. I had five. Tim had Uh Chris Frances: Um David Brown: Tim, what kinda line width Scott Satterfield: Uh David Brown: did you Scott Satterfield: the David Brown: have? Scott Satterfield: big lines were like nine. David Brown: Okay. It's a dog. Chris Frances: Well, very good. I just John Daniell: Uh. Chris Frances: uh thought I'd pick David Brown: Okay. Chris Frances: the easiest one. David Brown: Why a dog? You have a dog at home? Chris Frances: Well, we had a dog, Scott Satterfield: Uh, David Brown: Had Scott Satterfield: it's Chris Frances: a David Brown: a Chris Frances: few Scott Satterfield: p David Brown: dog? Chris Frances: years ago. David Brown: Yeah? Chris Frances: And and it, yeah, when it died we didn't get a new one or something. David Brown: Ah. Scott Satterfield: It's Chris Frances: But Scott Satterfield: pretty good Chris Frances: uh Scott Satterfield: uh David Brown: You have an artistic uh inner middle. Scott Satterfield: An artist. Chris Frances: Uh a Graphical User Designer, so John Daniell: Hmm. Chris Frances: Hey. Scott Satterfield: Think you uh picked the wrong uh function. Wrong job. Chris Frances: Oh. No. Can work together. Ah colour. David Brown: So I think you can see it's real uh really a easy programme to use. Not difficult at all. Scott Satterfield: Wha Chris Frances: Well, it's David Brown: Okay, Chris Frances: okay. David Brown: thank you. Scott Satterfield: That's enough, thanks. David Brown: Janus? John Daniell: Yeah, sure. David Brown: The last one? Chris Frances: Yeah. John Daniell: Uh thanks. Scott Satterfield: I wonder. David Brown: Yeah. After a cat, a turtle and a dog. I think he's gonna draw an elephant. John Daniell: but I'm gonna do something much more difficult. David Brown: Uh-oh. Chris Frances: Uh-oh. Oh, he is the artistic design. Scott Satterfield: I'm gonna design a remote uh remote control Chris Frances: Remote Scott Satterfield: animal. Chris Frances: control animal. John Daniell: Exactly. Scott Satterfield: Oh. John Daniell: Uh Scott Satterfield: Sorry. Chris Frances: Well with the interface, it might be easier to ha to draw here and Scott Satterfield: Yeah. Chris Frances: display there uh. Scott Satterfield: That that might be easier. But at the other hand, uh a pen like that is easy to hold in your hand, and David Brown: No. Scott Satterfield: I think it's easier to David Brown: Better Scott Satterfield: draw. David Brown: to draw with a Scott Satterfield: Yeah. With David Brown: with Scott Satterfield: a pen Chris Frances: Than Scott Satterfield: than with Chris Frances: on Scott Satterfield: a Chris Frances: the, Scott Satterfield: mouse Chris Frances: with Scott Satterfield: mouse. Chris Frances: Yeah, I m I mean like uh like Scott Satterfield: Mouth. Chris Frances: on here, drawing drawing Scott Satterfield: Oh, Chris Frances: uh. Scott Satterfield: okay. Chris Frances: And then Scott Satterfield: Yeah. Chris Frances: displaying Scott Satterfield: W Chris Frances: on screen, Scott Satterfield: with Chris Frances: but Scott Satterfield: this paper David Brown: But what Scott Satterfield: it's too David Brown: is he Scott Satterfield: mu David Brown: uh? Scott Satterfield: too expensive. Chris Frances: Too expensive, David Brown: Is it a rabbit? Chris Frances: yeah. John Daniell: Yes. David Brown: Do you have a rabbit at home? John Daniell: No. Scott Satterfield: It's a rabbit Chris Frances: A Scott Satterfield: with Chris Frances: green Scott Satterfield: uh Chris Frances: rabbit. Scott Satterfield: broken legs? David Brown: Is John Daniell: No. David Brown: it a white rabbit f It's the white rabbit from The Matrix. John Daniell: Yeah, exactly. David Brown: Okay, then Chris Frances: There, David Brown: yeah. Chris Frances: the g white green rabbit. John Daniell: So. Chris Frances: He's a little bit stoned there. John Daniell: Uh I figured this is a pretty b good impression of a rabbit. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. It John Daniell: Uh Scott Satterfield: will John Daniell: uh Scott Satterfield: do. John Daniell: Uh well. David Brown: Okay. Finishing touch and then we're going further. Scott Satterfield: Project Manager? Uh David Brown: Yeah? John Daniell: Where does the pen go? Just Scott Satterfield: Have John Daniell: uh Scott Satterfield: you been uh counting the time? David Brown: Yeah, a little. Scott Satterfield: Okay. Let's go on then. David Brown: Well, I think the dog is the the most uh John Daniell: Uh I figured David Brown: artistic. John Daniell: the rabbit was actually the most uh impressive. David Brown: Don't choose for youself. John Daniell: Oh, David Brown: That's John Daniell: sorry. David Brown: selfish. Okay, Scott Satterfield: It's pretty David Brown: now we're Scott Satterfield: abstract. David Brown: gonna dig into the to the serious stuff. Uh the selling price for the remote will be uh twenty five Euro, and the production cost uh may not be more than uh twenty and a half Euro. So uh from my point of view, I don't think it's uh gonna be very uh very high tech, high definition, uh ultra modern uh kinda remote, for twelve uh fift uh twelve and a half Euro. Uh the profit we must make with uh the new remote is uh fifty million Euro. So that's a lot. We have to sell uh a lot of uh Chris Frances: Yeah, how much is it? Scott Satterfield: Like how much? Chris Frances: Hundred million uh remotes David Brown: Uh Chris Frances: or something? David Brown: I think uh w when the selling price is twenty five, Chris Frances: Oh David Brown: uh Chris Frances: yeah. John Daniell: Twenty million. David Brown: uh you got two million, John Daniell: Two million, oh yeah, two David Brown: two John Daniell: million. David Brown: million remotes. John Daniell: Yeah. David Brown: But our marketing range is uh, market range is international. So we have uh virtually the whole world we can sell uh we can sell our r remotes to. At least that uh countries which have uh Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: a television. Um So now it's time uh for us to uh going uh to discuss a little uh things. You can think about uh experience with a remote control uh yourself, at home. What you think might be uh a useful uh new feature. What uh what can distinguish our new trendy remote control from all the others. Um so uh let's uh let's uh discuss a little. I'm gonna join you at the table. Well what what's the most uh important thing at a remote control? Chris Frances: Um well I think the most important thing of a remote control is that you can switch channels. And my opinion is you should keep it as basic as possible. David Brown: Okay. Chris Frances: Uh David Brown: So not a not a remote control who uh uh which can uh can be used for television and a D_V_D_ and radio and Or Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: just only Scott Satterfield: I think so. Uh but I have some points. Can I show them on the on the big screen? David Brown: If you Scott Satterfield: Maybe? David Brown: have them on uh I Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: can uh Scott Satterfield: Yeah, I can find Uh. David Brown: Okay. David Brown: Oh, in case you want it This is a dead kind of fly. Between the the the, yeah, the the uh Scott Satterfield: Screen? David Brown: Yeah, be Scott Satterfield: Okay. David Brown: The screens. Chris Frances: Is it possible to open pen drawings in this uh on David Brown: No Chris Frances: this David Brown: no Chris Frances: screen? David Brown: no. Only All the drawings go there, at the left uh Chris Frances: Uh but um which The ones we made on the David Brown: Oh, that pen drawings. Uh no, I think uh when it is uh in Word and you have saved it in the Shared Documents folder, you can show it there. Chris Frances: Oh, only in Word, okay. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Okay, I have some uh points from marketing point of view. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Um just the standard thing li things like uh intuitive, uh small, fairly cheap. Uh it's pretty cheap, twenty five Euros. Uh brand independent. Um I think, it doesn't have to matter uh which brand your T_V_ or David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: other thing is. Um David Brown: Okay. Five minutes. Scott Satterfield: Five minutes? Okay, David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: I'll wrap it up quickly. Um I personally think it has to be multi-purpose. Uh most David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: of the remote c uh remote controls are uh just for one purpose. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: And uh by making it multi-purpose, it uh has a new feature, adds a new feature to the market, and distinguish from uh from current products. David Brown: Mm-hmm. Scott Satterfield: Um maybe some other technology than infrared. Uh I rather find it very annoying um, like when someone is standing in front of the T_V_ then you can't switch it. Um think about um sending it over radio waves or bluetooth. David Brown: Okay. Okay. Scott Satterfield: That might be a little bit uh expensive. Um And something like an L_C_D_ screen. Chris Frances: For what purpose? Scott Satterfield: Um uh like I said here um Maybe it's easy. It's nice as an added feature feature, that um, when you're on a certain channel, you can see on the L_C_D_ screen uh what programmes are David Brown: Okay. Scott Satterfield: coming up or David Brown: So it be uh a multi-purpose uh very technically uh high uh Scott Satterfield: From my point David Brown: remote? Scott Satterfield: of view, yeah. David Brown: Yeah, it must be really uh innovative, technical-wise? Scott Satterfield: Yeah, it has to be uh Yeah, our company is very uh good in making new David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: innovative uh things. David Brown: So yeah, Scott Satterfield: So David Brown: I Chris Frances: We Scott Satterfield: i David Brown: I agree Scott Satterfield: i David Brown: with you. Scott Satterfield: i David Brown: So Scott Satterfield: i David Brown: we must focus on things who are really uh really add something to uh to Scott Satterfield: To the current market. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Look, you got some cheap uh remote controls there. They just uh Yeah, you got a dozen of 'em. David Brown: No. Scott Satterfield: But when you enter a new market with a remote control David Brown: Mm-hmm. Scott Satterfield: and uh wanna gain market share David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: you have to do something special, David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: I think. David Brown: But we have to keep an eye that it's Uh at the beginning of such a project, it's it's it's very uh cool to talk about, well, this would be cool, that would be cool. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: Uh but we must not uh lose uh sight of the the user uh uh friendly uh Scott Satterfield: Yeah, of course. Chris Frances: And and Scott Satterfield: But Chris Frances: the Scott Satterfield: it's Chris Frances: price. Scott Satterfield: But but this is just from marketing uh David Brown: Yeah okay. Scott Satterfield: aspect. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: I don't David Brown: Okay. Scott Satterfield: know anything about user interface or Chris Frances: Okay. Scott Satterfield: design. David Brown: And that's because we have him. John Daniell: And and him. Chris Frances: And him. David Brown: Okay, uh next meeting will start in thirty minutes. So uh you uh will have uh individual actions where I presume uh will be some feedback, uh via the m the mail. Um the the the Industrial uh Designer has to uh look at the working design. Uh Chris Frances has to look at the technical functions. So Chris Frances: Yeah. David Brown: that's the Chris Frances: Um David Brown: thing we uh discussed. Chris Frances: one David Brown: Yeah? Chris Frances: thing uh, we must first agree on uh what we're going to m going to make. Do we Are we going to use um it it for multiple systems? Or uh We should have some agreement on that David Brown: Okay. Chris Frances: before we David Brown: Um Scott Satterfield: Mm David Brown: wha Scott Satterfield: uh I I don't think we have to be, we have to agree on that. Uh John Daniell: I figure Scott Satterfield: I think John Daniell: we could get Scott Satterfield: th that's John Daniell: back to Scott Satterfield: a John Daniell: it Scott Satterfield: pha John Daniell: on the next meeting actually. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. That's a phase Chris Frances: Okay. Scott Satterfield: further. John Daniell: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: Ju just uh make some mock-ups, some some general ideas. Chris Frances: Ah okay. Scott Satterfield: And and then we can plan Yeah. David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: We can plan further, David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: I think. David Brown: But maybe, because uh you are working on the user requirements, you are working on the technical functions, we uh must uh have a little or kinda uh uh uh How do you call it? Chris Frances: Consensus David Brown: Uh Chris Frances: on the, what David Brown: Uh Chris Frances: we're gonna David Brown: a little Chris Frances: do. David Brown: plan on on what we're going to do. So you don't uh uh come up with the user requirements who don't fit the the the the technical functions at all. Some basic things we co we want to going to do. Uh I think that's well uh Yeah. Will come in handy. Scott Satterfield: Mm yeah. I don't Chris Frances: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: know. You decide. David Brown: Okay. Scott Satterfield: You're David Brown. David Brown: W He says Chris Frances: Well yeah, if the technical functions have to be designed, I I've gotta know for what kind of machines David Brown: Yeah. Chris Frances: they will be. Or do we use it a text screen? Or uh will it be with uh with bluetooth David Brown: Well, Chris Frances: or David Brown: th that's that's really a step further. But Chris Frances: Okay. David Brown: if you say uh is it uh uh one way or multi-purpose, Chris Frances: Mm-hmm. David Brown: that's Scott Satterfield: Uh tha David Brown: a Scott Satterfield: that's a same step further. John Daniell: Yeah, David Brown: Why? John Daniell: actually it is. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: Why? John Daniell: Then looking at Scott Satterfield: Uh. John Daniell: individual components, so Scott Satterfield: Yeah. John Daniell: that's actually a f step David Brown: Yeah. John Daniell: further. Scott Satterfield: Like we all have a list of uh things that has to b that have to be in it, or how it has to be like. And then in the next meeting David Brown: Yeah. Scott Satterfield: we decide John Daniell: Yeah, we Scott Satterfield: w John Daniell: can Scott Satterfield: what John Daniell: take it from Scott Satterfield: it's John Daniell: there. Scott Satterfield: gonna be. John Daniell: Yeah, David Brown: Okay. John Daniell: I agree Scott Satterfield: A John Daniell: uh, we can take it from there. Scott Satterfield: And then you s then you can delete uh John Daniell: Or edit. Scott Satterfield: the o the obsolete uh David Brown: Okay. Scott Satterfield: details. David Brown: So Scott Satterfield: I think. David Brown: uh each individually i individually uh must think on what's uh at uh his point of view is the most important. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: And uh then we're going to fit uh all the pieces together the next meeting. Scott Satterfield: Yeah. David Brown: I must finish off now, so it's over. You uh will receive specific specific instructions uh by your personal coach. And I see you in uh thirty minutes. John Daniell: Okay, Chris Frances: Okay. David Brown: Thank you. John Daniell: cheers. Chris Frances: Sorry. Scott Satterfield: Damn. David Brown: Be careful. Chris Frances: Yes. Scott Satterfield: Success? Chris Frances: Yeah. Chris Frances: No. Come up.	The participants introduced themselves and their roles to each other. David Brown introduced the aim of the project and gave a brief agenda for the entire project. He then introduced and explained how to use the meeting-room materials. The group acquainted themselves with the materials by drawing on the smartboard. David Brown presented the project budget and explained that the device would not be made very high-tech due to the small budget. He explained that the device would be sold internationally. The group discussed their initial ideas of features to include in the design; Scott Satterfield discussed usability features, such as the ability to control multiple devices and an LCD screen, to make the product unique. David Brown instructed John Daniell to work on the working design and Chris Frances to research the technical functions. The group discussed the timing of when they would make decisions on the features discussed.	3	amisum	train
Joseph Pittman: Hello. Ruben Adamitis: Hey guys. Ryan Sunderland: Hi. Christopher Mcintyre: Hi. Joseph Pittman: Hi. Ryan Sunderland: I see my bunny is still standing Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: No. one drawing Joseph Pittman: It's Ryan Sunderland: it. Joseph Pittman: too beautiful. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: Uh Christopher Mcintyre: true. Ryan Sunderland: I figured uh that much. Ruben Adamitis: Too wicked. Christopher Mcintyre: Mm. Joseph Pittman: A minute please, my uh laptop is uh oh, there it is, thank you. Joseph Pittman: So welcome back. At the functional design meeting um the plan is uh that uh each one of you, so not Ruben Adamitis but only you uh will uh present uh the the things you worked on uh the last uh half hour. I will uh take minutes and will put uh the minutes that I have at the end of the session in the shared. Also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared folder now, so you can read that uh now or afterwards. Um uh I had an email from the from the management board uh, I don't know if you a al also uh received it, but there were four points uh which uh I think are very important. First one is uh they think that uh teletext teletext becomes outdated uh and internet will be the the main uh focus. Uh second one is also important uh, because it's one of the discussion points of the previous session. Uh the remote control shou should onl only be used for the television, so it uh not gonna it's not gonna be a multi-purpose remote control, so uh that's one thing to keep in mind. Uh second, and I think that's important for the Marketing uh Expert, uh the current uh customers uh are in the age group group of uh forty years and older, but with this uh new remote uh they uh will uh would like to reach uh a group uh younger than uh forty. Uh and uh I think to keep in mind, but not really uh for now is that they uh want the the the slogan and the and the logo uh to uh to be recognised more in the remote. So, we have uh forty minutes, so I think uh not more than ten minutes uh uh per presentation uh each, and please uh use uh all the the the facilities so that you have either SMARTboards, the the Word files, what you uh whatever you want. So uh Tim, can you start? Ruben Adamitis: Okay. Joseph Pittman: Yeah? Ruben Adamitis: 'Kay, welcome. I have some uh new findings on uh Marketing Expert Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm Ruben Adamitis: level, which I will show you. The method I used was um giving orders to our usability lab uh to do a questionnaire. Um one hundred respondents were involved and my marketing uh department generated a report with a lot of results. Um, these were a couple of findings, first page of three. Um, we have three audiences of two audiences, I'm sorry. Uh the first one, this scale, from sixteen to forty five age. Uh the second one is from sixty four uh forty six to sixty five. Um, as you can see here, the market share for the first audience is about sixty percent um sixty five. Uh second audience audience is uh thirty five percent. Mm and some interests from the from the age groups, uh it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy uh new technology stuff, like uh an L_C_D_ screen on the remote control, um speech recognition. I don't think that's uh really appropriate. Um, and when you see uh the audience, the age is going up uh Yeah, they don't really want it anymore, at least the new technologies. Second findings out of the questionnaire um are the opinion the opinions uh of the audience about current remote controls. First point is, seventy five percent of the users find the most repo remote controls very ugly, uh and eighty percent of the users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. So that's maybe something for the User Interface uh Designer. Okay, third findings. According to the frequency of use versus importance investigation, um following buttons are most important. Um, I will tell something about the way this uh this test was, yeah, done. Um, persons were asked uh what the buttons were uh they use most, Joseph Pittman: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: how much an hour, and uh in the second table the importance of those buttons. Um, when you multiply them, you get the these three points. Switching channels, um yeah, that's pretty uh pretty normal, that's what you do with a remote control. Um the second, teletext, uh and the third, uh volume controls. Um, I think it's good uh that we know what the user want wants, uh at least the these three points have to be uh very Joseph Pittman: But Ruben Adamitis: clear. Joseph Pittman: it's strange that the the manage board the management board said that the teletext will be uh outdated by the internet. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: So Ruben Adamitis: okay. Joseph Pittman: that that's strange. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, okay, but uh at the moment uh teletext is Yeah, th the best thing you can get uh on T_V_, Joseph Pittman: Yeah, okay. Ruben Adamitis: like getting information. So Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: uh, when you ask people, what do they use, they use teletext and not Joseph Pittman: Okay. Ruben Adamitis: the internet on a remote control. Joseph Pittman: Yeah, okay. Ruben Adamitis: That's ridiculous. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: That's a ne i it It's a new technology, but Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: it's not incorporated right now. Okay, my personal preferences. Um, I think we should aim at the uh audience from sixteen to forty five. Mm, first of all um it's the biggest share, the biggest audience, sixty five percent. Uh second, I think you will get the most revenue from i from it. Um, yeah, people from sixteen to forty five watch a lot of T_V_, more than uh people who are el uh elder. Um second point, we have to impro improve the most used functions, as I said here, switching channels, teletext and volume controls. Third point um that came out of the uh of the questionnaire, uh people used to uh get lost off the remote controller, so maybe it's an idea for us uh to design ex kind of placeholder Joseph Pittman: Yeah, that's Ruben Adamitis: uh Joseph Pittman: a cool idea. Ruben Adamitis: on side of the, yeah, of the T_V_ where you can put the the remote control in. Um, that's about it, I think. Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: When you mentioned uh improving functions, what uh what do you mean by that Ruben Adamitis: Uh Ryan Sunderland: what Ruben Adamitis: not not Ryan Sunderland: what are Ruben Adamitis: the Ryan Sunderland: you think Ruben Adamitis: r Ryan Sunderland: about? Ruben Adamitis: not the functions, but Ryan Sunderland: Uh, the Ruben Adamitis: uh Ryan Sunderland: funtionability. Ruben Adamitis: it came out that a lot of buttons weren't even used uh on a remote control. So you can have a remote control full of buttons, a hundreds hundreds of buttons, but if you don't use them, Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: yeah it's Ryan Sunderland: Ah okay, so focusing more on the used Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: buttons. Ruben Adamitis: they have to be on it Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: j just to t to get it done if necessary, but um the most used buttons uh have to be bigger or Ryan Sunderland: Could you use perhaps uh one button for multiple functions, like example pressing it in longer makes it switch to an different function for Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: example. Ruben Adamitis: perhaps. Just Ryan Sunderland: Thank you. Ruben Adamitis: for the minor functions perhaps. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, ma perhaps just, just an idea. Ruben Adamitis: Just to get less buttons on the remote control, to make it easier and quicker to learn. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah? 'Kay, that's it. Joseph Pittman: Thank you, Tim. Ryan Sunderland: Uh Joseph Pittman: Janus, can Ryan Sunderland: yeah Joseph Pittman: you Ryan Sunderland: yeah, Joseph Pittman: uh Ryan Sunderland: I'll go, sure. Ryan Sunderland: Right uh, I'll be uh explaining a bit about uh working design about uh the project. Well uh what I did was I dissected uh uh current remote controls and um I viewed how how they w looked, how they worked, uh what kind of components are involved, and how they are connected together. And uh after that I put up a scheme about how uh these things are organised and I'll show it to you in in a in a few seconds. And I'll explain a bit about uh how it works and how we could uh build one and why I think several possibilities uh that we discussed in the earlier meeting falls off. Um right. Uh well what I did was uh I I checked uh remote controls and the uh remote controls of today are all infrared, not like all probably know. And the thing about that is um the remote controls uh have to act as a T_V_ or uh a stereo or something, and those uh have a transmitter that's also focused on infrared, so if we want to uh build uh mm a remote control uh with Bluetooth for instance then uh the T_V_ should have Bluetooth too in order to communicate, so that would mean extra cost for the user and thus uh that's that wouldn't mean a a cheap uh remote control for us. So that's probably why most controls are still infrared. Furthermore they all have uh a a very simple structure, so that would probably uh mean lower costs and uh i that could mean for us a good thing uh 'cause uh well we we should be able to build a relatively cheap uh a cheap uh remote. Well uh as I mentioned ready, we have some Bluetooth Well it may be possible, but uh I figured it wouldn't be possible in within our budget, but that's not for Ruben Adamitis to decide, but that's maybe something for marketing to look into. F because uh well my personal opinion is uh is not to do uh Bluetooth or or radio waves, although Ruben Adamitis: What do you think about uh incorporating Bluetooth or a radio uh receiver uh in the place-holder next to the T_V_, connected to the T_V_? Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, actually Ruben Adamitis: So Ryan Sunderland: I have Ruben Adamitis: it's Ryan Sunderland: t Ruben Adamitis: in the wrong product. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Yeah, I actually I figured that would be that would be rather nice, but then you'd still have the uh the infrared function. So Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: in in theory you'd actually just move the problem, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: but uh what I did uh think about was when you mentioned about the uh the cup-holder, is why not uh introduce a speech function like where is the remote. If somebody says, where is the remote, then it goes uh beep uh beep beep beep or something, I dunno, maybe uh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: maybe something to look into, I dunno uh what the cost that something like that would be. But it may be uh may be something to explore. Uh I'll I'll just explain a bit of the components. Uh first you have the energy source. The energy source would be a battery, simple uh battery uh that you can find anywhere. I figured that would be best, 'cause when the battery uh stops functioning uh we could just uh use you could just go out and buy a new one. So we didn't and we don't have to do all uh to be too complicated about that. Uh the energy source is connected to the infrared button, but uh the infrared button uh works only via the chip and the subcomponent to uh the switch there is a switch uh between these. When the switch is pressed in a w on this this case it switches a button, when a button is prush pushed in, uh a electric current goes through here, and in uh immediately, a l a bulb lights up uh displaying to the user that something has happened. That's uh that's so the h user won't be um thinking, well uh did the button be pressed, w what happened uh. Or I press button but nothing's happening on the T_V_, so is is something wrong or something. So that's just to uh to to explain the of to to uh make it clearer to the user. Uh w well the signal goes via chip that's translated into uh electric sig uh electronic signals and then it's processed and then it's sent to the infrared bulb where it will be uh uh received on the receiving end. And those uh interpreted by the device, well in this case the television. Uh well my personal preferences here, well we have to keep it simple. Not too many uh gadgets and functions, just like you said uh well the most users n uh you have a lot of buttons and you u u use you don't use them, w spend more time on those. Uh I I think we should stick by with infrared transmitting and uh no receiving. So uh no input from the television. So I think we shouldn't be uh spending time on um teletext and st things like that, because when you uh want teletext on uh infrared you'd have to build in a receiver too, and so in order to receive the signals from uh what's on T_V_ and such. So I figure that would be uh spending too much money and time and Ruben Adamitis: Um, yeah, maybe another problem uh, I think current T_V_s can even send Ryan Sunderland: Yes, Ruben Adamitis: infrared. Ryan Sunderland: but what should we uh s I I I f I agree with you, but should Ruben Adamitis: Huh. Ryan Sunderland: we spend money or and time on building a receiver into the uh remote control? Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm. Ryan Sunderland: 'Cause that would be I mean extra components, extra Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: designs, um larger g uh remote control. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: These all uh all stuff that we have to take in account. So I I my personal opinion is no no no receiver at all. Um, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: well we should uh look into the design and the functionability. Like I said, uh use one button for instance for m multiple functions, or well uh just hide the few buttons o of switching it open or something, the usual uh stuff. And uh don't overbuild, we shouldn't make a big uh remote control for simple functions, but we we should stick to the basics. So that was my uh my personal opinion. And that was my uh my presentation uh Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Joseph Pittman: Okay, thank you Janus. Christopher Mcintyre: Yes, I can go Joseph Pittman: You do? Christopher Mcintyre: ahead. Joseph Pittman: The last presentation. Christopher Mcintyre: Last presentation. Joseph Pittman: You have plenty of time, Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Joseph Pittman: Tim and uh Janus don't uh talk to ten minutes, so uh take your time. If you take your time too long I will uh eventually uh warn you. Christopher Mcintyre: Well, I'm going to give a presentation abut some of the technical functions of these design and uh usability functions. Um what's my opinion about what's most important to combine the design, technical possibilities and the user friendliness in one, so if you um going to design a remote that looks good, that shouldn't weigh over the if it's possible to make, but also the user friendliness, so tha that's that's some of the main points. And another one is um the use um of many functions will will make it more difficult, so use as as little functions as possible or at least don't display them all at once on the same remote. If you have fifty functions Ruben Adamitis: Hmm. Christopher Mcintyre: you don't want fifty buttons uh t uh to be shown at the same time, 'cause when you visit an internet uh site you don't want fifty links uh to see, but maybe use a hierarch hierarchy uh structure. And uh well one of the ideas was maybe uh use touch screen, but s I don't know in how far Ruben Adamitis: Hmm. Christopher Mcintyre: that is possible, since we are sticking to uh um infrared and and the remote cannot receive anything, but uh we might uh consider that. Um well, of course I I hope this is all clear to you. If you you can use remote like this with all the functions, many functions, but Well, your thumb is a little bigger than th it than this. You have to be very careful what you push, and um if you're looking for teletext you'll be uh searching for half an hour from uh um yeah well, where is it? Where the hell he here I guess and, yeah, when you have to uh use something else. So just keep it simple, make clear buttons, easy to use. For example if you want to use a play and back and stop, that's very important. Um well this was because of our last discussion, if multiple machines are used, create easy switch between the machines, but um it's no longer uh applying. Well yeah, I prefer to use it only for T_V_ and um n uh not to give too many options and and if possible, uh the buttons should give a dr direct action, not first select Joseph Pittman: Uh you you just said um uh you wanted to to combine more functions in one, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: so Christopher Mcintyre: and Joseph Pittman: uh Christopher Mcintyre: so Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: you Christopher Mcintyre: that's Ryan Sunderland: but Christopher Mcintyre: where Joseph Pittman: you Christopher Mcintyre: the difficulties Joseph Pittman: want to keep it simple, Christopher Mcintyre: lie. Joseph Pittman: but I think that if you want to do that, then you can't escape the the fact that there will be buttons uh which give s uh more options than one. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: this so Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: that's Ryan Sunderland: but Christopher Mcintyre: the thing you have to weigh against each other. Do we want to use a few options and might not be so or original, Joseph Pittman: Mm-hmm. Christopher Mcintyre: or uh multi-purpose as we thought, Joseph Pittman: Okay. Christopher Mcintyre: or do we want to use um many buttons. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: So um weighing those factors. Ruben Adamitis: Hmm it's maybe an option uh if you use an L_C_D_ or a touch screen um, that in the middle are the the main keys, like displayed on the Uh yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: The doesn't. Ruben Adamitis: this? No? Yeah. Something like that. Okay, just uh in the middle the general functions, like play, uh channel switching, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: and then uh at the top or at the bottom, some menus like uh settings or that you can drop down. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, but when all the questions I had Do we want to use uh a menu display on the T_V_? Or um does have to f everything uh be in remotes? 'Cause if you use Ruben Adamitis: Mm. Christopher Mcintyre: a memory display on the T_V_, you can simply push uh a more menu and then select the options you want to have and press okay. Uh so that's my recommendation, Ruben Adamitis: Nah. Christopher Mcintyre: if you use many options in one buttle button, Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm. Christopher Mcintyre: um display the menu on the T_V_ and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: don't um use combination of t of two buttons at the same time or pressing buttons three times for five seconds, is Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: too complicated for most users. Ruben Adamitis: I Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Ruben Adamitis: think Ryan Sunderland: but Ruben Adamitis: so too, but and that's partly because um uh a lot of T_V_s have different menus, and when you have a particular menu uh at your device, uh it could be that don't correspond to the menu what's actually on T_V_. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, that will be a problem. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: Well you d you have to keep in mind that uh several T_V_s uh don't even have a menu structure, or they have a very simple menu structure, so you have to keep in mind that not all uh d not our remote won't be able to work on all televisions. Christopher Mcintyre: Yes. Ryan Sunderland: And that would be uh a Christopher Mcintyre: So Ryan Sunderland: considerable Christopher Mcintyre: if Ryan Sunderland: problem. Christopher Mcintyre: we have to stick with current technologies and uh um well yeah, the restrictions of what's uh is on the market today, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: um you should keep it s at this. Use big clear buttons. Not too many. So maybe we'll loose a few option uh options, but I think i this is more important. Um especially the important buttons, um if you want to switch channel, change your volume, uh use teletext, it uh it has to work at once and more advanced options may be Ryan Sunderland: Not embed Christopher Mcintyre: put it s somewhere away on the remote, behind uh Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: a Ryan Sunderland: but Christopher Mcintyre: little Ryan Sunderland: then with something Christopher Mcintyre: uh Ryan Sunderland: like a touch Christopher Mcintyre: little Ryan Sunderland: screen Christopher Mcintyre: thing Ryan Sunderland: could Christopher Mcintyre: or a touch Ryan Sunderland: could make Christopher Mcintyre: screen. Ryan Sunderland: more menu up pop up or Christopher Mcintyre: And Ryan Sunderland: something. Christopher Mcintyre: yeah, if you want to uh uh s put on stand-by or change the channel, that should always be possible to do. Not first change menu options or Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: switch something. Um, well yeah, as you already told, give some feedback. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: If the user is pushing a button he should know if the television or n at least remote is reacting and not just that the batteries may be low. And um, well, my conclusion is uh is uh less is more, keep it simple. So uh maybe we should just ease down on the functionality to uh to keep it accessible on t because you all know, if there are a lot of function on the the television, some you you'll never know uh and never use, and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: therefore it's uh important if you want to change the volume or channel that is always accessible and easy and other functions um that are not so important um well you we should consider just not using them Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Uh, I think the idea uh about uh touch screen um is very good. Um, because recently uh I saw news item on T_V_ um about uh new telephones uh for elder people. Um, they have like a touch screen with uh really big pictures on it like uh uh call uh hang-up, um and that's a big ad advantage I think, because one the one hand uh you make the remote control compatible for elder users just by uh scaling up the pictures or something. Joseph Pittman: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: It's uh very visual intended. What was I to say more? Christopher Mcintyre: Maybe that's an option. Um keep the primary buttons visible. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Uh make a remote that fits easily in the hands and for some design issues uh well, put a logo on it and maybe use it uh in some aesthetic uh aesthetic form. But uh th the important buttons m make them always accessible and pushable and clear and maybe use a touch screen, or if that's uh will become too difficult just uh like televi some o older telephones use a l uh maybe it's possible to to flip them open and uh just expand the number of options that are normally visible. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah okay, Christopher Mcintyre: Um Ruben Adamitis: but but if you pick the the idea, the left idea Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: then what's gonna be displayed on the touch screen? Ryan Sunderland: The extra functions. Christopher Mcintyre: The extra functions, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: you uh Ruben Adamitis: but Christopher Mcintyre: you Ruben Adamitis: l Christopher Mcintyre: just Ruben Adamitis: like Christopher Mcintyre: see Ruben Adamitis: menu Christopher Mcintyre: a menu Ruben Adamitis: functions Christopher Mcintyre: from Ruben Adamitis: or Christopher Mcintyre: system Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: functions or teletext functions, and you just choose one, and then Ruben Adamitis: Ah Christopher Mcintyre: all Ruben Adamitis: okay. Christopher Mcintyre: all the options will become available and you just c s yeah t scroll through them. Ryan Sunderland: Wouldn't it be better to make just one big touch screen, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, I Ryan Sunderland: uh one Ruben Adamitis: think Ryan Sunderland: one Ruben Adamitis: so. Ryan Sunderland: small uh touch screen uh applet and uh I'll just make um uh let's say fifteen buttons on it, and uh we have three of those, uh actually just uh menus with sub-menus, with or sub-items, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: sub-functions. Christopher Mcintyre: Well um then I'd like to make a proposal. If you make one big touch screen, Ryan Sunderland: Yes. Christopher Mcintyre: use the same concept as here, keep the buttons Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: always available Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: and use the lower part of the touch screen for the rest. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: yeah, like like the iPod idea that Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: that we just saw. You just have a f a few selected buttons and uh a few menus, and with this idea you could actually make uh several you can also improve uh later on. Christopher Mcintyre: Yes. Ryan Sunderland: Uh uh I think that will be great. Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Joseph Pittman: So you think it's will be better to have a t kinda total touch screen. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, I think so. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, I wou I would actually go for Joseph Pittman: Jirun? Ryan Sunderland: the Christopher Mcintyre: Okay, I agree, but I think it's very important that they always um make the same buttons accessible, so use just for special options a part of the touch screen. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, of Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: course. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: And so um an elder designer picks up th the of an elder parents or Joseph Pittman: Yeah Christopher Mcintyre: grandparent Joseph Pittman: yeah yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: picks up the remote from the little child and who's all in the systems functions, you'll have to have the possibility to turn off the T_V_ or to switch the channel without um well using all the menu structures to get back to the primary functions. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, I had another uh idea about maybe parental control. Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: Um, like building in uh some kind of PIN code uh which allows uh parents to switch to all channels, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: uh but children uh if children don't don't know the PIN code, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah Ruben Adamitis: they Christopher Mcintyre: wh Ruben Adamitis: can't switch to uh violent uh Christopher Mcintyre: Is that possible Ruben Adamitis: channels or Christopher Mcintyre: to use Ryan Sunderland: That Christopher Mcintyre: or no? 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Ryan Sunderland: aren't set in a preset order, so uh if you uh lock on a remote, uh let's say channel fifteen, Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm. Ryan Sunderland: well channel fifteen on this television is different than channel fifteen on the other Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: television, Ruben Adamitis: okay. Ryan Sunderland: so that would be uh that would be Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: actually the main concern. Christopher Mcintyre: Well, I Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: think that he means that um maybe by some option uh make sure that um remote control and the T_V_ match, and then after that you can um use some s insert some passwords as being apparent that the children cannot use this uh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: change the settings of the T_V_, like colour and then volume and uh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, th that kind of stuff, but maybe um if you log in first as Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: a parent um, you address the the channels Ryan Sunderland: Yes. Ruben Adamitis: and like uh oh, that's channel fifteen, that's uh vi violent channel, Christopher Mcintyre: Oh, Ryan Sunderland: Yes. Ruben Adamitis: uh Christopher Mcintyre: something Ruben Adamitis: m my Christopher Mcintyre: like Ruben Adamitis: ki Christopher Mcintyre: that. Ruben Adamitis: my kids uh I don't want my kids to watch that, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: then you set the priority to only parents, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Okay, yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Well Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: b Ruben Adamitis: for Ryan Sunderland: that Ruben Adamitis: example. Ryan Sunderland: would b Christopher Mcintyre: but make Ruben Adamitis: But Christopher Mcintyre: it a separate option in the menu, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: so Ryan Sunderland: that. 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I've one little question about um a total touch screen or uh um Ruben Adamitis: Partial. Joseph Pittman: a p yeah, a partial, uh because I think uh elderly people may be uh not used to uh a touch screen, so they want the the the normal functions like teletext, volume changing, um Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: uh to be uh, yeah, kinda traditionals uh and uh the the the the other functions, the more Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm. Joseph Pittman: difficult functions uh to be uh maybe on the touch screen, but to keep this as uh normal as possible, to keep it Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: accessible. Ruben Adamitis: but but if you display it on L_C_D_ screen with r r really big numbers Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, you can de display it on Ruben Adamitis: that's Christopher Mcintyre: the Ruben Adamitis: just Christopher Mcintyre: on the Ruben Adamitis: as Christopher Mcintyre: old Ruben Adamitis: e Christopher Mcintyre: style. Ryan Sunderland: Uh. I Christopher Mcintyre: You Ruben Adamitis: just Christopher Mcintyre: can Ryan Sunderland: I do Christopher Mcintyre: display Ruben Adamitis: as easy. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: actual buttons on the Joseph Pittman: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: touch screens. Joseph Pittman: that's Ryan Sunderland: Uh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: true, Ryan Sunderland: I Joseph Pittman: that's Ryan Sunderland: do agree, Joseph Pittman: true. Ryan Sunderland: because well, it's just not the same when you touch a touch screen or when Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: you touch Christopher Mcintyre: okay. Ryan Sunderland: a button, but Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, it's different. Ryan Sunderland: well we have to look at what's our target uh audience. W Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: we are aiming for younger people Joseph Pittman: Yeah, Ryan Sunderland: and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: that's Ryan Sunderland: they they Joseph Pittman: true, Ryan Sunderland: chose Joseph Pittman: yeah. Ruben Adamitis: age b below forty. Joseph Pittman: Yeah, yeah yeah, Ryan Sunderland: So Joseph Pittman: yeah, Ryan Sunderland: that's Joseph Pittman: that's Ryan Sunderland: that's Joseph Pittman: a good Ryan Sunderland: probably Joseph Pittman: point. Ryan Sunderland: uh a Joseph Pittman: Yep. Ruben Adamitis: And th those young people, yeah. Y you Joseph Pittman: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: saw it in my marketing report, they like the new fancy Joseph Pittman: They Ruben Adamitis: stuff, Joseph Pittman: like the Ruben Adamitis: so Joseph Pittman: fancy stuff, yeah. That's Ruben Adamitis: A touch Joseph Pittman: true. Ruben Adamitis: screen, like Microsoft al already developed something like that for Joseph Pittman: Mm-hmm. Ruben Adamitis: uh uh multi-media applications. Joseph Pittman: Mm Ruben Adamitis: I th I think we can do that too. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Okay, as you can see uh the minutes from the second meeting, this one, are uh are Ruben Adamitis: Done. Joseph Pittman: done. Uh I've uh added the this uh four things from the management board just to keep in mind. Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Joseph Pittman: Um each time I uh I had a sort of uh summary on what you told and uh what you personal think. Uh so that can be uh can be read out. Uh a f a few things I uh I noticed uh were um Moment. Ooh. Joseph Pittman: Uh th the the main points in uh this uh uh in this uh meeting is I think uh how uh it's going to look uh with uh we must keep it simple, but have the opportunity to uh have more options and have them uh hidden or something, so they don't uh you don't have a big uh thing full of uh buttons the point that uh you uh wanna use one uh controller uh for uh uh hypothetically each television, so you must uh the the the the functions, know, like the menus or the the parental control must be all uh by the done by the remote control and not by the television. I think that's the point what uh Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Yes. Joseph Pittman: we discussed. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, yeah, some of them. The menus uh are not identical for all th for all T_V_s, so you have to display it on Christopher Mcintyre: Well Ruben Adamitis: one uh T_V_. Christopher Mcintyre: you can use um when you uh how do you call it, s um synchronized, the um remote and the T_V_, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, but that's not Christopher Mcintyre: then Ruben Adamitis: possible. Christopher Mcintyre: there's always, there are always uh possibilities to change the colour and the brightness and the volume Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm, mm yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: and um well maybe we can look out if there's options that the remote um in its memory can see what kinda T_V_ it is, from ah, it's a Philips, this and this and that, and then give the options that are capable the capable Joseph Pittman: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: from Joseph Pittman: but you Christopher Mcintyre: the Joseph Pittman: have Christopher Mcintyre: t Ruben Adamitis: Add Joseph Pittman: uh Ruben Adamitis: th that Joseph Pittman: uh Ruben Adamitis: that's Joseph Pittman: an Ruben Adamitis: an opportunity. Joseph Pittman: yeah, but you have an international market range, so you have I think Christopher Mcintyre: Well Joseph Pittman: a Christopher Mcintyre: there Joseph Pittman: big Christopher Mcintyre: are Joseph Pittman: range Christopher Mcintyre: universal Joseph Pittman: of Christopher Mcintyre: d um um remotes Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: and they all have a functionality for all the T_V_s, uh so this Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: wouldn't Joseph Pittman: Okay. Christopher Mcintyre: be a Ryan Sunderland: But Christopher Mcintyre: extra Ryan Sunderland: they Christopher Mcintyre: feature to Ruben Adamitis: But Christopher Mcintyre: incorporate the men menus Joseph Pittman: And it's Christopher Mcintyre: of these. Joseph Pittman: not too complex to do it. Ryan Sunderland: Well Ruben Adamitis: No. Ryan Sunderland: they uh they all have to be programmed to fit your T_V_ Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: and that that is bit of a tricky job. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: I actually use one of those when They are they are kinda kinda troublesome, but but the thing is whe when you uh start uh building something like this you have to build a receiver into the uh t into the remotes, because uh in order for the remote to process something from the T_V_, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: like uh Christopher Mcintyre: Well Ryan Sunderland: to synchronise Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: and you have to send and receive, Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Ryan Sunderland: and Christopher Mcintyre: Oh Ryan Sunderland: that's well Christopher Mcintyre: um Ruben Adamitis: No no no. Christopher Mcintyre: mo no, you can just Joseph Pittman: Just Ruben Adamitis: He Christopher Mcintyre: say Ruben Adamitis: he Joseph Pittman: build Christopher Mcintyre: uh Joseph Pittman: it Ruben Adamitis: he Joseph Pittman: in. Ruben Adamitis: he Ruben Adamitis he Christopher Mcintyre: the Ruben Adamitis: means Christopher Mcintyre: c Ruben Adamitis: just just one other thing. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Uh, with the current remote controls, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: the universal ones, Ryan Sunderland: Yes. Ruben Adamitis: um you have to press Christopher Mcintyre: In codes, y Ruben Adamitis: yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: you you Ruben Adamitis: you have Christopher Mcintyre: get Ruben Adamitis: to press Christopher Mcintyre: a Ruben Adamitis: a code Christopher Mcintyre: b a book Ruben Adamitis: for Christopher Mcintyre: with Ruben Adamitis: T_V_. Christopher Mcintyre: codes. You look up, I have a Philips H_ fifty Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: five Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: and it says press code Ryan Sunderland: Oh, okay, Christopher Mcintyre: four five Ryan Sunderland: yeah, sure, Christopher Mcintyre: five and you press Ryan Sunderland: uh Christopher Mcintyre: code four five five on the Ryan Sunderland: Yeah yeah Christopher Mcintyre: uh Ryan Sunderland: yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: in the remote and it displays all your uh menu options. Ryan Sunderland: Oh, yeah yeah, sure, that would be possible, Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Now we uh just connect uh the T_V_ type uh to a set of Christopher Mcintyre: Memory Ruben Adamitis: options, Christopher Mcintyre: in Ruben Adamitis: in Christopher Mcintyre: the Joseph Pittman: Yep. Christopher Mcintyre: in Ruben Adamitis: just Christopher Mcintyre: the remote. Ruben Adamitis: just in the memory, Ryan Sunderland: Profiles. Ruben Adamitis: so that if you yeah, like profile, so that if you uh touch in like uh one four one zero Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: kind of T_V_ uh the memory uh pops up the options. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Yeah, Joseph Pittman: Okay. Ryan Sunderland: that would be possible. Yeah, sure. Ruben Adamitis: I th don't think that's uh that takes a lot of storage space or Ryan Sunderland: No, Ruben Adamitis: some Ryan Sunderland: that wouldn't Ruben Adamitis: just Ryan Sunderland: be Ruben Adamitis: varia Ryan Sunderland: uh Ruben Adamitis: variables. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, well Ryan Sunderland: a few Christopher Mcintyre: um Ryan Sunderland: variables. Christopher Mcintyre: if you look at the um manuals from universal uh remotes, there are Ruben Adamitis: Mm-hmm. Christopher Mcintyre: maybe um three four hundreds T_V_s Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: at maximum. If you have all of them, all the old and new T_V_s summed up, so uh I think uh it is possible. Ryan Sunderland: Ah it is. It Ruben Adamitis: But, Ryan Sunderland: is definitely Ruben Adamitis: on the other Ryan Sunderland: po Ruben Adamitis: hand Joseph Pittman: We have five minutes to go. Ruben Adamitis: on the other hand, uh if you have a remote Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: and buy a new T_V_ that isn't incorporated in the remote Christopher Mcintyre: Well then you have to buy a new one, it's very good for marketing Ruben Adamitis: New remote? Christopher Mcintyre: Maybe, or an update, software update. Ruben Adamitis: A firmware upgrade or Christopher Mcintyre: Firmware Ruben Adamitis: something, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: update, Ryan Sunderland: firmware Christopher Mcintyre: you say. Ryan Sunderland: upgrade. Ruben Adamitis: but from where? Ah. Maybe Ryan Sunderland: That's maybe the Ruben Adamitis: w Ryan Sunderland: cup holder. Ruben Adamitis: No m Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: may Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: no, maybe we can incorporate some kind of uh U_S_B_ or a firewire connection, so that you can uh connect it to the P_C_ and download the newest firmware from uh from the internet. Ryan Sunderland: Well, not everybody has uh has uh a P_C_ at home. Well the most most people have, Christopher Mcintyre: Well, Ryan Sunderland: but not not Christopher Mcintyre: at Ryan Sunderland: everybody Christopher Mcintyre: uh you can Ryan Sunderland: and Christopher Mcintyre: go back to the shop and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: uh Ruben Adamitis: like Christopher Mcintyre: they Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: a s kind of service centre. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, ser o Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, maybe something like service Christopher Mcintyre: and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: they can Ryan Sunderland: cen Christopher Mcintyre: download it for you. Ryan Sunderland: Or you could well you could s actually look at the place-holder you talked about earlier, and Christopher Mcintyre: Mm-hmm. Ryan Sunderland: you could probably uh make a connection to uh an telephone line or Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: a Christopher Mcintyre: Well already Ryan Sunderland: internet connection. Christopher Mcintyre: digital information is sent t to the the standards, T_V_ uh Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: connections, you can see what's uh programme is on on the new uh channels, so maybe j they we can send that information along with standard T_V_ uh Ryan Sunderland: Well then then it's be uh back to the Christopher Mcintyre: Receiving. Ryan Sunderland: building a receiving uh Christopher Mcintyre: Oh yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: well uh if it's actually worth it to build it in, we could actually look Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: at into it, but I dunno, it it would be uh Christopher Mcintyre: Difficult. Ryan Sunderland: bringing more costs uh with with it and Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: I I think it's uh most cheap or cheapest to just do the updates uh at the service centre Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah Ruben Adamitis: or Ryan Sunderland: that would be Christopher Mcintyre: yeah, Ruben Adamitis: at Ryan Sunderland: probably Ruben Adamitis: the shop. Christopher Mcintyre: uh Ryan Sunderland: best, Christopher Mcintyre: s Ryan Sunderland: yeah. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: I think some I think Ryan Sunderland: Like Christopher Mcintyre: it's Ryan Sunderland: when Christopher Mcintyre: good Ryan Sunderland: you when Christopher Mcintyre: idea, Ryan Sunderland: you buy Christopher Mcintyre: yeah. Ryan Sunderland: a T_V_ you just ask Ruben Adamitis: It's Ryan Sunderland: well Ruben Adamitis: it's Ryan Sunderland: I'll Ruben Adamitis: it's not a lot of work, just one uh docking station where you put it in, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: press start, bling bling, updated. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, that would be best, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ryan Sunderland: yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: You don't buy a T_V_ every week, Christopher Mcintyre: Okay, Ryan Sunderland: No Ruben Adamitis: new Christopher Mcintyre: let's Ryan Sunderland: no. Ruben Adamitis: teev Christopher Mcintyre: uh save Ryan Sunderland: Exactly, Christopher Mcintyre: this Ruben Adamitis: so. Christopher Mcintyre: in the meanwhile Ryan Sunderland: so Christopher Mcintyre: uh Christopher Mcintyre: Um m for which one are we going? My mistake. Ruben Adamitis: Let's vote. Christopher Mcintyre: That one or uh Ryan Sunderland: Yeah, my vote goes out to the right. Christopher Mcintyre: Your vote and Ruben Adamitis: My vote too. Christopher Mcintyre: your Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Ruben Adamitis: And your vote? Christopher Mcintyre: Well, I was uh doubting about which one to take, but uh you've convinced Ruben Adamitis that uh if you di display buttons Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: about the same as they would look on a normal um Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: remote all elderly people will know what to do. Ruben Adamitis: And also like a clapping uh li like device that uh Christopher Mcintyre: Opens Ruben Adamitis: pops Christopher Mcintyre: up Ryan Sunderland: Flips Christopher Mcintyre: is Ruben Adamitis: open. Ryan Sunderland: open. Christopher Mcintyre: too difficult or uh Ruben Adamitis: Uh too difficult, um maybe uh it's easier to break it. Joseph Pittman: N yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Break it, I don't Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: get Ruben Adamitis: th th th that i uh Joseph Pittman: It's very sensitive. Christopher Mcintyre: Oh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: so Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Like my telephone, it's uh it's sensitive too. Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Okay well uh it's almost at the end. So we have now a lunch break, finally, Ruben Adamitis: Ah. Joseph Pittman: yeah. Uh after the lunch break uh it's back to uh individual work, once again uh thirty minutes. Uh I will put my minutes uh I have updated them so uh s they're updated in the shared folder too. Ruben Adamitis: Thirty minutes? Joseph Pittman: Thirty minutes, the Ruben Adamitis: How minutes? Joseph Pittman: Failure. Uh uh the specifi uh specific instructions for the next uh meeting you will all will receive uh at the uh the the email. I don't think I can uh say much about it, so uh uh wait for your email and uh hopefully you get it done uh in the in the thirty minutes, and I w will see you after the lunch break and the thirty minutes. Ruben Adamitis: One question, Joseph Pittman: Yeah? Ruben Adamitis: uh how late do we have to get back be back here? Joseph Pittman: Uh well uh thirty minutes. Christopher Mcintyre: A quarter to one Joseph Pittman: Uh, Christopher Mcintyre: maybe? Joseph Pittman: yeah. Ruben Adamitis: Thirty minutes lunch break? Joseph Pittman: Thirty minutes lunch break, yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Ruben Adamitis: I thought Joseph Pittman: Oh. Ruben Adamitis: forty five. Joseph Pittman: Forty five? Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Uh then would it be uh one o'clock. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Or we Ruben Adamitis: Okay. Joseph Pittman: we ask our personal coach. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, uh that was a very uh good session I think, Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, Joseph Pittman: we Christopher Mcintyre: is Joseph Pittman: uh Christopher Mcintyre: it possible Joseph Pittman: we Christopher Mcintyre: to store this on Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: the share Ruben Adamitis: Ruben Adamitis too. Christopher Mcintyre: documents or Joseph Pittman: Uh Christopher Mcintyre: what Joseph Pittman: ye well Ruben Adamitis: Save as. Joseph Pittman: Yeah, because uh all uh things are uh stored in smart board dot uh Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, v Joseph Pittman: X_D_K_ and Ruben Adamitis: But Joseph Pittman: that's in Ruben Adamitis: but you can open a from your pr from Christopher Mcintyre: 'Kay, Ruben Adamitis: your Christopher Mcintyre: save Ruben Adamitis: laptop. Christopher Mcintyre: it as an image on Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: the Ruben Adamitis: maybe. Christopher Mcintyre: res Ruben Adamitis: Save as. Ryan Sunderland: Export. Ruben Adamitis: No. Joseph Pittman: No. Ryan Sunderland: Maybe not export function. Ruben Adamitis: Export. Joseph Pittman: Well I Ruben Adamitis: Export Joseph Pittman: can I can uh Ruben Adamitis: H_T_M_L_. Christopher Mcintyre: No, and use an image if possible. Ruben Adamitis: Huh, image? Christopher Mcintyre: J_ PEG. Ryan Sunderland: G_ yeah, J_ PEG. Christopher Mcintyre: J_ PEG. Yeah, it's better Ruben Adamitis: Paper size A_ four. Uh screen size. In this Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Ruben Adamitis: directory. Ryan Sunderland: N oh. Christopher Mcintyre: Oh yeah, it's not connected to the Joseph Pittman: You all uh have Christopher Mcintyre: to Joseph Pittman: the Christopher Mcintyre: our P_C_s. Joseph Pittman: the questionnaire Ruben Adamitis: No? Joseph Pittman: again about uh the after work. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, it is connected. Christopher Mcintyre: It's connected? Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, I think so. Ryan Sunderland: To Joseph Pittman: Deskt Ryan Sunderland: room. Joseph Pittman: Huh. No. Ryan Sunderland: I'll just uh saved in my documents. Ruben Adamitis: Oh. Ryan Sunderland: Yeah in my own uh in my own messenger. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: Project documents, Ryan Sunderland: Yeah. Joseph Pittman: yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: It gives the na Oh. Yes. Ryan Sunderland: Okay, Joseph Pittman: Okay, Ryan Sunderland: nice. Joseph Pittman: thank you. Christopher Mcintyre: The questionnaire, fill in uh we fill out d after lunch or uh Joseph Pittman: Uh well, it's it's simply filling oh no, it's uh it's also filling out no, I'd do it after lunch I think. Christopher Mcintyre: Okay. Joseph Pittman: I'm hungry, so do it after Ryan Sunderland: Aye, Joseph Pittman: lunch. Christopher Mcintyre: Yes. Joseph Pittman: Thank you all. Ryan Sunderland: cheers. Ruben Adamitis: Thank you. Joseph Pittman: You're welcome. Christopher Mcintyre: We can leave the P_C_ on I think, yeah and Ruben Adamitis: Yeah, Christopher Mcintyre: return Ruben Adamitis: of Christopher Mcintyre: to Joseph Pittman: Yeah. Christopher Mcintyre: the Ruben Adamitis: course. Joseph Pittman: Well I bring it to my uh personal room. Christopher Mcintyre: Yeah, bring Ruben Adamitis: To my Christopher Mcintyre: to Ruben Adamitis: exave Christopher Mcintyre: I gotta Ruben Adamitis: executive Christopher Mcintyre: bring it home. Joseph Pittman: My executive uh big room with the Christopher Mcintyre: A big office. Joseph Pittman: with the panting. Christopher Mcintyre: Yes. Ruben Adamitis: Aye. Ruben Adamitis: Yeah. Okay.	When this functional design meeting opens Joseph Pittman tells the group about the project restrictions he received from management by email. Ruben Adamitis is first to present, summarizing user requirements data from a questionaire given to 100 respondents. Ruben Adamitis explains various user preferences and complaints about remotes as well as different interests among age groups. He prefers that they aim users from ages 16-45, improve the most-used functions, and make a placeholder for the remote. Ryan Sunderland begins explaining the working design. He talks about existing products, most of which use infared since it is simple and cost-effective. He suggests adding a speech function, when someone asks where the remote is and it beeps. He also explains the various components, materials, and energy sources of a remote, giving preference to a remote with multifunctional buttons and without a receiver. The interface specialist presents, talking about the possible components of the remote and concluding that the remote should be simple and accessible without too much functionality. The group continues the meeting by having discussion about the possibility of a touch screen, LCD, and other functions. The group closes the meeting and goes to lunch.	3	amisum	train
Ernest Knodel: Hello again. Don Currier: Hi. Arthur Miller: Hello. Ralph Swift: Hey, Project Manager. Arthur Miller: Um, Project Manager, I Ernest Knodel: Mm yeah. Arthur Miller: have something tell you. I have a little problems with my laptop. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Arthur Miller: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Arthur Miller: No, a little problem, uh big problem. I just thought Ralph Swift: What was it, Arthur Miller: Um, Ralph Swift: problem? Arthur Miller: it didn't work anymore. Ralph Swift: The laptop? Arthur Miller: The entire Windows uh Ralph Swift: It hang hung. Arthur Miller: It it hung. Ralph Swift: Ha-ha. Oh. Project Manager. Ernest Knodel: Yes. Ralph Swift: You're Ernest Knodel: Yes. Ralph Swift: our Project Manager. Ernest Knodel: Your project manager. Welcome to the conceptual design meeting for Real Reaction. Uh, hello again. Uh it's uh the same as the last time. Uh uh, also this time there will be uh three presentations. And we um must uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts. Um uh, and the end, I uh, when I finish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh visited. information. Arthur Miller: During lunch, yeah. Ralph Swift: Master. Arthur Miller: He's the master, yeah. Ralph Swift: Master Ernest Knodel: The Ralph Swift: of Ernest Knodel: the the the the concepts on uh we uh where we uh must reach a decision on. Um uh, our from uh are of two sorts. Components concepts and user interface concepts. Uh, the first one is uh really about the the the the the total package uh with uh Well, we have decided to do a do the uh with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable. Uh how how about the energy? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you must exchange? Uh, the user interface concept. Uh, with the type and uh the the supplements. So uh where to put what button. And uh uh I would say uh Jans, can you begin? Don Currier: Yeah, sure. Ernest Knodel: Okay. At the end, uh I will take notes uh Don Currier: Okay. Ernest Knodel: and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the shared folder. Don Currier: Uh, let Ralph Swift see. I think it's this one. Ha. Arthur Miller: Wow. Don Currier: Right. Uh, well, I'll be talking about the components. Uh, what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two two uh different uh age groups. Ernest Knodel: Mm-hmm. Don Currier: Uh below forty five and above. And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh, well, what what d do we want, and how we uh d aim a at uh the target group. Well uh what I found was that a senior um senior citizens uh Ralph Swift: I'm sorry. Don Currier: Ye Ah, it's Ralph Swift: Okay. Don Currier: it's Ralph Swift: Go Don Currier: okay. Ralph Swift: on. Don Currier: Uh They, well, they like more the they like the traditional materials, like wood and and such more. Wood and chrome. And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes. Um, uh they they they they like luxurious uh styles, where whereas the young and dynamic, they like a more uh soft materials. Think of the Teletubbies, for instance. Uh uh, soft and fluffy and colourful and Well uh, shapes are curved and round. Y y you get the picture. And uh they like sports and gaming, and that gives them uh the vitality. Uh, so w well Ernest Knodel: One Don Currier: uh, firs Ernest Knodel: one little question. Um Don Currier: Yes. Ernest Knodel: about the the material. Don Currier: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Uh a soft material for a remote control? Don Currier: No, I'll I'll get to that. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Don Currier: You you'll see. Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Thank you. Don Currier: Uh, well f first off, let's start start with the energy. W I uh I had a choice between uh a few different uh sources. Ernest Knodel: Mm-hmm. Don Currier: But uh the two basic sources that I found were the best possible were the battery uh versus kinetic. Uh kinetic, that's when you move something, then uh it gets energy. I figured, well that's ki kinda high-tech, when when you have a remote control that well, when you pick it up, it has power. That would be actually very nice, uh Ernest Knodel: Oh. Don Currier: I figured. Well, we could also use a battery, that's a Ralph Swift: Yeah Don Currier: bit Ralph Swift: but when the power gets low, you have to shake it or something? Don Currier: Yeah. Yeah yeah, you c just you have to shake it around Ralph Swift: Uh, Don Currier: a little bit. Ralph Swift: and Don Currier: And Ralph Swift: uh Don Currier: then Ralph Swift: uh Don Currier: then it d then it has some more uh energy. Well, Ralph Swift: Hmm. Don Currier: y you could just go for a battery. Or you can go for both? Arthur Miller: Oh, have you the option of using a solar panel Don Currier: Yeah, I actually did. But uh the thing is about solar panel is you have to have l uh light. Well, sunlight preferably. Arthur Miller: W Don Currier: Uh, Arthur Miller: nah. Don Currier: and you you could you could use normal light, but uh Arthur Miller: Mm. Don Currier: you wouldn't get the same amount of energy that you would from a battery or something. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: Uh for uh ultimate b uh n uh use of uh solar panels, you could actually use uh you could use uh solar panels, but uh you ha you'd have to implement them into uh the remote control, leaving you uh a bit less space for Ralph Swift: Mm Don Currier: the Ralph Swift: yeah. Don Currier: interface. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: It's too Don Currier: So Ralph Swift: less Don Currier: uh Ralph Swift: space. Don Currier: so i i it it wo what's actually I I c just in f I've figured it out that well, uh seeing that you'll always be uh within the l uh distance of T_V_, and the from T_V_ there comes a a a whole bunch of light. So it would actually power itself uh from Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: a T_V_. But, well you just take up all the space, and you Arthur Miller: Okay. Don Currier: wouldn't uh have the full amount of power actually used. Ernest Knodel: But you Don Currier: So Ernest Knodel: prefer kinetic? Don Currier: I I prefer kinetic because Ernest Knodel: Okay. Don Currier: it's uh well, the costs aren't that much higher, and um, ju just a bit more high-tech than than a normal battery. I mean, Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Don Currier: if Ernest Knodel: but you don't move a a remote control Don Currier: No, Ernest Knodel: too Don Currier: but Ernest Knodel: much. Don Currier: uh d Well, you pick it up and you press buttons and y well, Ernest Knodel: And that's Don Currier: you Ernest Knodel: enough to to keep the energy level uh Don Currier: Yeah, well uh actually it is. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Don Currier: And it it if it isn't, you just shake it a bit and and add add with power up again. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: But, what l what Jarek said, you could you could use a battery that you'd just keep it on the recharging whenever it moves. And for rest, you'd just add juice on the battery. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: And when the battery doesn't work, I usually shake too. So Like slamming on Don Currier: Exactly. Ralph Swift: it. It's exactly the same. Don Currier: And Ernest Knodel: Thank Don Currier: so that Ernest Knodel: you, Tim. Don Currier: Uh Uh well, f furthermore, you you we uh checked uh the cases. We have uh different options uh concerning the cases. You ha I you sim uh you simply add a basic uh standard uh model uh it was kind of square and uh I figured that's a bit boring. So you you we could go for uh the single curved or the double curved. Um, single curve, it's just a well, uh, you know, it's just uh a nice curve. Or but but you could go in a in an double curves. And that's like several different dimensions. That gives Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: you an whole new uh Ernest Knodel: Dynamic Ralph Swift: Hmm. Don Currier: effec Ernest Knodel: dynamic look? Don Currier: Yeah, that gives you a younger and uh more high-tech look, I f I figured. But, that uh we'll discuss later. Ralph Swift: But, are you going to draw it? Don Currier: What? Ralph Swift: The Don Currier: You Arthur Miller: Th Don Currier: want Ralph Swift to draw Arthur Miller: th Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: in Arthur Miller: yeah. Don Currier: three-D_? Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Uh, I c I can't imagine. Don Currier: Uh, Ralph Swift: I can't imagine Don Currier: yeah, I ca Ralph Swift: how Don Currier: I Ralph Swift: how Don Currier: ca Ralph Swift: how Don Currier: I could Ralph Swift: it Don Currier: I Ralph Swift: looks Don Currier: could show Ralph Swift: like. Don Currier: you. I could show you. Well uh let's say y uh you uh Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: Let's say that's your standard uh Ralph Swift: Design. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: That's a bit your d standard design. Ralph Swift: Mm-hmm. Don Currier: could actually go like uh something like this. And then uh in three-D_ effect you could go Arthur Miller: Um Ralph Swift: Uh Don Currier: So y you you just Yeah, this is a this bit uh difficulty in I didn't take a major in art. So But but you could have uh uh a whole new uh the back Ralph Swift: Oh, Don Currier: back Ralph Swift: okay. Don Currier: the the the depth, you could you could uh just Ralph Swift: Okay. Don Currier: play around a bit with. You you don't have to use standard uh Ralph Swift: Oh, okay. Ernest Knodel: A little artistic. Don Currier: Yeah you could y It leaves more space for creativity. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: Okay. Don Currier: Uh that might be an idea, but just a Well, furthermore, uh well, uh plastic versus rubber? You We could choose uh what uh what's better, plastic um or rubber. I I ch prefer rubber because it feels uh Yeah. Ernest Knodel: It's soft. Don Currier: Yeah, it's soft and it's that Ernest Knodel: That's Don Currier: I like Ernest Knodel: the material Don Currier: soft. Ernest Knodel: the younger people want uh, Don Currier: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: ain't Don Currier: yeah Ernest Knodel: it? Don Currier: I mean uh plastic uh is Plastic also has that cheap feeling to it, like plastic uh Your your I usually associate plastic with uh something that's cheap. Uh that's maybe just Ralph Swift, but Uh, we could uh uh, oh, talk about it later. Uh furthermore, buttons. Uh traditional uh or a touch screen. Well, we discussed it in a previous meeting, so I figured I'll just leave it at the L_C_D_. And uh chip set, well uh if we are going to use traditional buttons, we could go uh with a simple chip set. But uh if we decide to go on a n uh um L_C_D_ screen, we would use an uh we have to use an a advanced chip set. And that would bring uh the necessary costs with with it. So that's something we th have to keep in mind. If it isn't uh manageable uh budget-wise, we'd have to go over to uh to sim to simple buttons. Ralph Swift: Well, I think uh we're going to sell tell ten millions of them. So uh I bet a big company in uh Korea or Taiwan, like uh Samsung, Don Currier: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: can give us uh a big discount on the chips, so Don Currier: Yeah, probably. Ralph Swift: U usually, chips are uh aren't more expensive than one dollar. Don Currier: Yeah, probably, but Ralph Swift: So Don Currier: But uh yeah, that's Ralph Swift: That that Don Currier: that's Ralph Swift: shouldn't be a real issue, Don Currier: That shouldn't Ralph Swift: I think. Don Currier: shouldn't be uh that big a issue. I'll I'll I'll just add, uh uh I put a big summary here, so we could discuss it a bit. Uh what i what are your ideas concerning battery versus kinetic? Arthur Miller: Um, I think you should use kinetic as a back-up. Don Currier: Yeah, you you you should we Ralph Swift: Yeah, a Don Currier: should Ralph Swift: combination. Arthur Miller: A combination, Don Currier: A combination. Arthur Miller: yeah. Don Currier: Uh, you use the battery and w charge it up with kinetic. When you pick it up, it Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: charges up. Ralph Swift: Like an uh aku uh Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Acu uh, Don Currier: Yeah Ralph Swift: yeah. Don Currier: yeah, I know. Arthur Miller: Okay. Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Just like the watch Ralph Swift: Well, Ernest Knodel: from Seiko. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Psycho-kinetic. Don Currier: Yeah, I con Exactly. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: What uh what do you think? You agree? Ernest Knodel: I I uh I would prefer uh both uh too. Don Currier: Yeah? Both? Ralph Swift: Combine Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: them. Ernest Knodel: Combine them. Don Currier: Okay. Uh, well that would bring the m m some more costs, but I mean the Who cares, Ralph Swift: Okay. Don Currier: right. That's Ernest Knodel's Arthur Miller: Buy Don Currier: problem. Arthur Miller: a fifty Ralph Swift: Of Arthur Miller: cents Ralph Swift: course. Arthur Miller: battery and uh Ralph Swift: Fifty Don Currier: Yeah, Ralph Swift: cent. Don Currier: well Fifty cent uh Uh, why doesn't And then we have single-curved versus double-curved. That Arthur Miller: Well maybe I have something in my presentation to uh to cope with that. Don Currier: Okay. No, we'll we'll just wait and uh Uh, plastic versus rubber. Ralph Swift: Rubber. Don Currier: Any ideas? Ernest Knodel: Rubber. Don Currier: Uh, Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: rubber? Arthur Miller: Um, Don Currier: You Arthur Miller: isn't possible to make combination with kind of rubber is or bendable remotes where you've got a. Or do Don Currier: Uh, Arthur Miller: you Don Currier: I Arthur Miller: think Don Currier: figured Arthur Miller: it Don Currier: it will be m rather than Arthur Miller: Rubber Don Currier: hard Arthur Miller: casing, Ralph Swift: Rather Arthur Miller: yeah. Ralph Swift: hard. Don Currier: Nah, rubber c uh this is a casing, yeah. Rubber casing, because well if you use an uh d a touch-screen, uh it's just a casing uh around it. So um, Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: you could go for plastic, but I figured Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Um, Don Currier: I Arthur Miller: well Don Currier: I I Arthur Miller: d Don Currier: would choose rubber. Arthur Miller: Maybe I can ask it right now the question that I have. Uh, is it possible uh of is it necessary to make a touch-screen square? It isn't, I think, yeah? Don Currier: Well, m I don't know. Ralph Swift: Well, Don Currier: No. Ralph Swift: I think that touch-screens are generally square. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: But it's the Arthur Miller: We're Ralph Swift: case you put around it Don Currier: That Ralph Swift: that Arthur Miller: We put Don Currier: isn't Ralph Swift: makes Arthur Miller: fashion Ralph Swift: the shape. Arthur Miller: in electronics, so Ralph Swift: Hmm? Arthur Miller: maybe we can uh Ralph Swift: Yeah okay, but if you have a square uh L_C_D_ screen, Arthur Miller: Mm Ralph Swift: and Arthur Miller: yeah. Ralph Swift: you put a case around it that has uh like bulbs or Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Ralph Swift: that that covers part of the L_C_D_ screen. Don Currier: Yeah, that would Ralph Swift: That Don Currier: cover it. That that would solve Ralph Swift: That's Don Currier: the problem. Ralph Swift: it's Arthur Miller: Oh, Ralph Swift: custom customisable Arthur Miller: yeah. Okay, Ralph Swift: and Arthur Miller: I Ernest Knodel: Mm yeah. Arthur Miller: I get it. Don Currier: So mm Uh uh so uh so what are the opinions? Uh rubber or plastic? I I I prefer rubber. Ralph Swift: Yeah, Ralph Swift too. Ernest Knodel: Ralph Swift too. Arthur Miller: Okay. Don Currier: Yeah, you Ernest Knodel: Yeah? Don Currier: too? You sure? You Arthur Miller: That's good. Don Currier: you Arthur Miller: Well, Don Currier: you seemed Arthur Miller: as Don Currier: to hesitate Arthur Miller: long a Don Currier: a bit. Arthur Miller: as long as it's it's uh it's firm, and you don't uh Ralph Swift: Mm yeah. Arthur Miller: it's not bendable or something, I th I think that goes too far. Don Currier: Yeah, it it shouldn't it shouldn't Ernest Knodel: Okay. Don Currier: flop over when you Arthur Miller: Oh. Don Currier: hold it in your hand uh No, that that that that's gonna The the chip set will hold it firm in place, and Arthur Miller: Okay. Don Currier: uh and and uh and a L_C_D_ screen also Arthur Miller: It might even bounce back when you drop it on the floor. Don Currier: Yeah it m might it might. Arthur Miller: Okay. Don Currier: Uh, tra uh traditional versus L_C_D_, well I figured we we all set on that. And uh, then also the simple versus advanced. Well I figure if we go for L_ L_C_D_, we we should have the advanced. Ernest Knodel: Mm Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: yeah. Don Currier: So that shouldn't be a problem. Okay, well that's my uh Ernest Knodel: Thank you. Don Currier: Uh, you're welcome. Ralph Swift: Can I uh do my thing? Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: It uh Ernest Knodel: Do your thing, Arthur Miller: Do Ernest Knodel: Tim. Arthur Miller: your thing. Ernest Knodel: Bring it on. Ralph Swift: Expert map. Okay uh Last week I went to uh Paris and Milan for some trend-watching. For marketing. Our research and development department and I went to Paris and Milan. In Paris and Milan, we uh asked different people, uh differing in age and in income, uh the amount of money to spend, um what they like in design uh and material nowadays. Findings. Our main audience, uh so that's people below forty, uh prefer the following. At first, the colours of fruit. Very basic colours, like Janus explained. Um, fresh colours, uh green, red, uh strawberry red, uh yellow, banana yellow. Um, considering material, um Yeah. They like spongy material, Arthur Miller: Spongeball. Ralph Swift: like yeah a sponge-ball. Like a s soft material. Janus Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: m uh mentioned it also. I think he did some uh some findings himself. Don Currier: Well, Ralph Swift: You Don Currier: the Teletubbies Ralph Swift: wer Don Currier: sh Ralph Swift: you weren't in Paris? Okay. Like this. Like big uh Ernest Knodel: Flashy. Ralph Swift: g flashy colours. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Fresh. It's nice, I think. Okay, our secondary audience, uh people above forty a forty years in age, they like the dark traditional colours. Uh Yeah, uh materials like wood Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Ralph Swift: that Ernest Knodel: but wood is not a not a material you which you build a a remote control of. Don Currier: Well, you could. Ralph Swift: No Don Currier: You Ralph Swift: n Don Currier: you Ralph Swift: j Don Currier: could. Ralph Swift: just Ernest Knodel: Yeah Ralph Swift: j Ernest Knodel: but Ralph Swift: just a w Ernest Knodel: never seen Don Currier: Well uh Ernest Knodel: one. Arthur Miller: It'll float. Ralph Swift: No, okay, but just just a wooden uh Ernest Knodel: Case. Ralph Swift: look. Ernest Knodel: Oh, a wooden Don Currier: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: look, yeah. Ralph Swift: Like uh you have those fake uh Arthur Miller: Tables. Ralph Swift: fake panels on the floor. The that isn't wood anyway, but Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: Okay? But, that's our secondary audience. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: So, uh we decided to take mm yeah the people below forty. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: So, that this doesn't apply. 'Kay, the third. Uh, there're some overall thoughts about new remote controls. They have to look fancy. Um, they should be technological in innovative. That means uh there have to be fancy things in. Uh, and easy to use. But that's common. My personal preferences. We have to aim at a mu at the main audience. And uh, therefore use fresh colours. Ernest Knodel: Would you prefer uh uh that you can choose the colour of your uh remote control Ralph Swift: Uh, Ernest Knodel: or Ralph Swift: I'll I'll come to that in a second Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: point. Here, think about removable covers, as seen Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: in mobile telephon telephone market. To customise your own remote control. Like the Nokia uh the Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: removable covers, uh just put a red Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: on it and go to the shop and buy a green one. Uh, a third, material being used uh could well be stuff like rubber. Um, two advantages. Uh, it fits within the current market trends. And uh it adds safety to your remote uh when you drop it. So Uh to come back to your question, I think uh and the people in Milan and Paris also think that uh the rubber should be pretty hard. Like uh seen on regular mobile phones. Actually, they have a lot in common. The phones and the Don Currier: Well, I actually saw a phone that you could use as a remote, so Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Ah. Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Maybe Ralph Swift: Okay. Ernest Knodel: you could use your remote as a phone. Don Currier: Hey. Arthur Miller: Hey. Don Currier: That Ernest Knodel: There Don Currier: might Ernest Knodel: are numbers Don Currier: be a next Ernest Knodel: on Don Currier: step. Ernest Knodel: it, so uh Ralph Swift: Yeah, exactly. Uh, in my second sheet of personal preferences, uh we have to reconsider the speech function uh recognition. Uh, it's very innovative. Innovative. Ernest Knodel: So that you say um S_P_S_S_, and it goes to Ralph Swift: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: uh Ralph Swift: like something. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: speech recognition and stuff. But, we have to keep the cost in uh in mind, but Arthur Miller: Twelve Ralph Swift: it Arthur Miller: fifty uh Ralph Swift: Yeah, it it can be uh very expensive. 'Kay, second. Uh, building games like Snake or Tetris to amuse the younger users. Uh, also the link with uh mobile phones. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, but Ralph Swift: Uh Ernest Knodel: you don't use that th games when you watching television, Ralph Swift: No, Ernest Knodel: I think. Ralph Swift: but Don Currier: Well, Ralph Swift: No, Don Currier: yeah. Ralph Swift: okay. But you don't use games when you're d when you're making a telephone call. It's just the same. Arthur Miller: When your parents are watching some boring program, you can take the remote and do something else. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, okay. Ralph Swift: When you're at college. Don Currier: You take Ralph Swift: Uh Ernest Knodel: You Don Currier: your Ernest Knodel: take Don Currier: uh Ernest Knodel: your remote Arthur Miller: Take Don Currier: remote Ernest Knodel: control Don Currier: with Ralph Swift: No. Don Currier: you to school. Ernest Knodel: with you. Ralph Swift: You al you also take Arthur Miller: it. Ralph Swift: uh t you take your IPac and go uh play games. Yeah. Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Well, I do that, but Okay, and um And third, I stick with it, the log-in functionality uh with the slogan, take parental control to a new dimension. Arthur Miller: Ooh. Don Currier: Very Ralph Swift: That's Arthur Miller: S Don Currier: nice. Ralph Swift: it. Ernest Knodel: Uh great. Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Arthur Miller: In Okay. Um the interface contents. Well that's a just simple PowerPoint mock-up I want to m make it more as dynamic for you so I'll draw there. But, the main concept is um take one big touch screen. Um, always display the primary buttons clear and visible. Maybe even li like this with uh u uses of a lot of space. And uh make the menu structure changeable. So if you press um system, that's Yeah, well m multiple system options can, maybe five or ten or or one, can fit in. Or maybe even a step further when you want to um t um have some other options that are not programmable with one horizontal button. And um other buttons can may be displayed here if that's necessary. And um well, how do uh do we want to look at uh uh f um Yeah Does a remote look Well, it's you've gotta hold it in one hand. So um the middle like all remotes have to be in a little bit small, so you can put it in inside your hands. And some remotes you can use with your thumb. But I think that's too difficult for this one. So you can make it s a little broader. Yeah. And here? And maybe use your thumb on the on the main buttons. And use your other hands on the menu structure. So here are gonna be the program buttons. One, two, three, four, et cetera. And the the volume control and program control maybe. And, down here, um, I added, this could be one uh big L_C_D_. Um, the menu structure. So you can use it in uh in this way. Um One thing you've gotta keep in mind, keep the remote clear of too much functions at the same time. Um, know that if you are changing the menu structure here, um And well, I still believe you should keep displaying the buttons. But if you're programming the colour of the T_V_, do not display twenty other options that are possible. Just keep it as simple as uh as possible. And do not use too many levels. Do not have to select a screen first and then brightness and then colour and un-plus, and um push plus twenty times. But just the um uh just in one button if possible. And um, well, you kn you all know the T_V_ levels. Um, channel one, two. And when you get to n to uh to ten, ye and want to go back, uh well you have a problem. Just m most most modern T_V_s, you you press one zero, and it goes to ten. And else, to one and through after that. So the s a button less. And um, things like teletext, put them in the menu. Things like um um Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Uh, what do you think about a back-and-forth come-up uh button? Arthur Miller: Yeah, yeah Ralph Swift: L Arthur Miller: w Ralph Swift: like in uh internet Arthur Miller: Yeah, Ralph Swift: explorer. Arthur Miller: I I find I must trying to uh tell it. And this is program uh plus and minus. Uh Ralph Swift: Yeah okay, but does it that is for uh going from four to five. Arthur Miller: Yes. Ralph Swift: But if you go from two to Arthur Miller: Or Ralph Swift: eight, Arthur Miller: if you're watching Ralph Swift: and you want Arthur Miller: Studio Sports on uh on seventeen, Ralph Swift: Yeah, Arthur Miller: and Ralph Swift: and on Arthur Miller: your Ralph Swift: two. Arthur Miller: wife is watching Ralph Swift: That you Arthur Miller: some Ralph Swift: can switch Arthur Miller: soap on Ralph Swift: switch Arthur Miller: two Ralph Swift: easy. Arthur Miller: Well yes, I think that's a good idea. But um, well m my preference Ralph Swift: Yeah it Arthur Miller: would Ralph Swift: is. Arthur Miller: to be put it in the menu structure. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: And if you're using that button a lot of times, well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels, you won't have time uh Ralph Swift: Mm Arthur Miller: to Ralph Swift: no. Arthur Miller: d use the other options. Um, yeah already already told that. Ralph Swift: That's Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: it. Arthur Miller: That's my conclusion. Ralph Swift: Okay. Ernest Knodel: Oh, okay. Uh I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control, the games, and the voice recognition. Uh There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: about it. Arthur Miller: Well, I agree, just put it in the menu structure somewhere. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Um, yeah um system Ralph Swift: Yeah but Arthur Miller: properties, um parental control. Ralph Swift: What I see uh How I see it is you put it on the the remote Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents, children. Arthur Miller: Mm. Ralph Swift: Something Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: like that. Arthur Miller: Um, Ralph Swift: And w Arthur Miller: w Ralph Swift: when you want Arthur Miller: well, Ralph Swift: to use Arthur Miller: yeah. Ralph Swift: the parents uh option, Arthur Miller: It it Ralph Swift: you Arthur Miller: has Ralph Swift: have to Arthur Miller: to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds Ralph Swift: Yeah, Arthur Miller: of settings. Ralph Swift: ok Ernest Knodel: No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Ernest Knodel: on the television, and uh wait Arthur Miller: Why Ernest Knodel: uh ten or fifteen seconds Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Ernest Knodel: longer, so they can uh finally watch it uh because Arthur Miller: You c Ernest Knodel: of Arthur Miller: may Ernest Knodel: that. Arthur Miller: use Ernest Knodel: Uh Arthur Miller: like when there's uh X_P_, uh a Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: simple log-on, d Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: you just Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: push uh one Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: or two Ralph Swift: Pu Arthur Miller: or Ralph Swift: push Arthur Miller: three. Ralph Swift: parents. Arthur Miller: And if Ralph Swift: That Arthur Miller: you push Ralph Swift: then Arthur Miller: parents, Ralph Swift: then Arthur Miller: then Ralph Swift: then Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: you have to uh Arthur Miller: To log in. Ralph Swift: go to three-digit Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: uh Arthur Miller: And if you Ralph Swift: log-in. Arthur Miller: puts a Ralph Swift: Like Arthur Miller: ye Ralph Swift: two one three. Arthur Miller: Uh-huh. Ralph Swift: And it's in. Arthur Miller: And Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: if you w you push p children, uh you don't have to uh Ralph Swift: It automatically Arthur Miller: log in, but Ralph Swift: goes Arthur Miller: you can only Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: watch uh children's channels or uh Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Okay. Well Don Currier: I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function, but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such. Ralph Swift: Mm-hmm. Don Currier: And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it. I don't Ernest Knodel: Well Don Currier: know Ernest Knodel: I Don Currier: what Ernest Knodel: think that's a b there's a big market for it, because uh you Ralph Swift: Mm yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff, and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah, Ralph Swift: V violent Ernest Knodel: they Ralph Swift: T_V_. Ernest Knodel: believe that children uh are influenced by the television, and uh Well, we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh Arthur Miller: Well, maybe um some idea on that. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Just make through a remote as it is, Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: but make an option to insert profiles, 'cause if my Ralph Swift: Yeah, of Arthur Miller: grandad Ralph Swift: course. Arthur Miller: would buy this remote, he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: uh things to do. Just make it an option in menu, ins install powerful profiles or something. Ernest Knodel: Yeah yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: That's a that's a better idea? Ralph Swift: Yeah, w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store, Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: it has to be just simple and plain. But Ernest Knodel: Yeah, okay. Ralph Swift: if you want to install it personally uh If I got kids, and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One Ernest Knodel: Yeah, with Ralph Swift: uh Ernest Knodel: and one without. Ralph Swift: w with parent control and one without, and I would would buy the one with. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Um, b Ralph Swift: I Arthur Miller: well, Ralph Swift: th Arthur Miller: still Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: some question I have about how to incorporate those ones. You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see, but well, I I when I think, oh yeah, for the f for all the standard channels, and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: instead of uh of channels, because if you're watching uh, I don't know, you're in the at day uh, cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night. I don't know. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, maybe it can work with show view. Uh, you you can control your video recorder with show view. Uh, when you tick in a number, it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent, and that they are blocked out. Arthur Miller: Yeah, the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that Ernest Knodel: That's Arthur Miller: they Ernest Knodel: true. Arthur Miller: remotes Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: and edit it all, will have Ralph Swift: Yeah Arthur Miller: to Ralph Swift: but Arthur Miller: decide Ralph Swift: yeah Arthur Miller: uh Ralph Swift: but that isn't possible. Arthur Miller: That isn't possible. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: But, well, if you want to I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control, uh let's say we do, and and well whatever, cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up for instance. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: Well uh, nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel. Ralph Swift: Hmm. Arthur Miller: Well, Don Currier: But that Arthur Miller: yeah you could say if parental control is only it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then, but Don Currier: Well, I'm not sure because um for that Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: to happen, you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control, so it would, yeah, have to be constant uh constant signalling. Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Don Currier: What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control, for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's there's uh besides uh the remote control, you'll have a separate uh Ernest Knodel: I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much, I think. Don Currier: Yeah? Ernest Knodel: If we do it, we Ralph Swift: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: we Ralph Swift: and Ernest Knodel: must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile, a parent profile, and a family Arthur Miller: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: profile, Arthur Miller: on a separate Ernest Knodel: and otherwise. Arthur Miller: menu uh option. Ralph Swift: And and you know w uh when you install another device, uh children can still go up to the T_V_, p pop open uh the thing Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: and and and g Don Currier: Yeah, Ralph Swift: go Don Currier: that's Ralph Swift: to a Don Currier: true. Ralph Swift: channel. Don Currier: That's true, but uh at same instant, same happens when uh you have remote control. Ralph Swift: Yeah, yeah of course. Don Currier: So Ralph Swift: But Don Currier: But, only difference is uh the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control, and those Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: people wouldn't uh necessary want it. Ralph Swift: Ah it's Yeah. Don Currier: So, you Ralph Swift: Yeah, okay. Don Currier: you'd Ralph Swift: But it's Don Currier: be Ralph Swift: just an an added feature Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: feature. Ernest Knodel: Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition? I personally think that that becomes too much. Arthur Miller: Yeah, well yeah, I Ernest Knodel: It's more like it gets you to the functionality, Arthur Miller: A mail Ernest Knodel: but Arthur Miller: too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh, hearing loud noises from Ralph Swift: Mm yeah. Arthur Miller: the T_V_, Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: someone screaming one, and you f the channel switches, uh Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah, like f voice recognition is too much, I think. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: But Ernest Knodel: Okay. And games? Ralph Swift: games. It doesn't Don Currier: Yeah. I can Arthur Miller: W Don Currier: see games Arthur Miller: you Don Currier: happening. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: can put it on chip anyway, so Don Currier: Yeah. Arthur Miller: uh Ralph Swift: That that Ernest Knodel: That Ralph Swift: doesn't Ernest Knodel: would Ralph Swift: c Arthur Miller: As Ralph Swift: that doesn't Arthur Miller: long as Ralph Swift: co Arthur Miller: it's isn't a primary feature of the remote, but Ralph Swift: Yeah, Arthur Miller: uh Ralph Swift: that that doesn't cost a lot of Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: extra resources, Ernest Knodel: So Ralph Swift: I Ernest Knodel: that Ralph Swift: think. Ernest Knodel: will uh that that that must be in it, you think? Don Currier: Yeah, that will be nice. Ernest Knodel: Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are Arthur Miller: Optional Ernest Knodel: optional? Ralph Swift: Yeah, it's Arthur Miller: in Ralph Swift: it's in it. But Arthur Miller: But Ralph Swift: too ma Arthur Miller: how we do it? Ralph Swift: I I think so, but Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Well, I think also it's a good idea, buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex. Is Ernest Knodel: Okay. Arthur Miller: t some menu uh function, you choose parental control, and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: it on. But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Arthur Miller: will f Ernest Knodel: okay. Arthur Miller: be a problem. Ernest Knodel: Uh, but uh will there uh uh Like the first idea uh from uh You can buy it without and uh with parental contr Arthur Miller: Mm-hmm. Ernest Knodel: control? Or are we Arthur Miller: Well Ernest Knodel: going to put it in and uh just Arthur Miller: Ye Ernest Knodel: uh Arthur Miller: I I think best would be uh to put it in and make Ralph Swift: To put Arthur Miller: it an menu option. Ralph Swift: Yeah, Arthur Miller: You can Ralph Swift: to Arthur Miller: put Ralph Swift: put Arthur Miller: on Ralph Swift: it in always. Ernest Knodel: Yeah? Arthur Miller: Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it, you can select um personal preference, parental control on, and the password or Ernest Knodel: Mm yeah. Arthur Miller: something. Don Currier: Well, I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes, you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So, a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh simple model and the deluxe model, uh for instance. Arthur Miller: Oh, it's a p Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah, but T_V_s aren't capable of sending. Don Currier: Yes they are. Ralph Swift: Yeah? Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: I thought they were just Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Don Currier: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: you yo Don Currier: you you Ralph Swift: a Don Currier: have Ralph Swift: able Don Currier: some Ralph Swift: to Don Currier: T_V_s Ralph Swift: receive. Don Currier: any Ralph Swift: Yeah, some. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Ralph Swift: But Ernest Knodel: but most often Don Currier: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: not. Don Currier: That is true, that is true. Arthur Miller: Well, maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs, where the parent says, you cannot watch channel seven, nine, and ten, Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock. And there's just some little uh clock in Don Currier: Well Arthur Miller: the Don Currier: yeah, Ralph Swift: Yeah, Arthur Miller: remote. Don Currier: you could Ralph Swift: j Don Currier: you could easily Ralph Swift: just some rules. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Don Currier: you could easily you could easily to the mote control. But you still have the problem about uh the television itself. Arthur Miller: No, no, it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of remotes who have a clock in it. Don Currier: Yeah, yeah yeah. Arthur Miller: So, the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after Ralph Swift: Yeah, okay. Arthur Miller: twelve Ralph Swift: But, Arthur Miller: clock. Ralph Swift: on the T_V_ Arthur Miller: Yeah? Ralph Swift: at least my T_V_, is a is a compartment which you can press. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: And Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: there are buttons uh behind Don Currier: Yeah. Ralph Swift: it Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: which you can use, if Arthur Miller: Well, Ralph Swift: you d if Arthur Miller: that's Ralph Swift: you don't if you don't have a Arthur Miller: To put it very blunt, that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: glue and uh Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: It's not not a part of the remote. Ralph Swift: Yeah, of course. Don Currier: Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that is true. Arthur Miller: You have to f Don Currier: Yeah, Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: you could you Arthur Miller: Uh, Don Currier: could you Arthur Miller: or Don Currier: could go Arthur Miller: make Don Currier: like Arthur Miller: it ourselves Don Currier: uh that Arthur Miller: very Don Currier: that would Arthur Miller: diffic Don Currier: actually make uh things a lot more easy. You Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: could just blame it on television and Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: uh make it their problem. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: Yeah, I figured I figure we could do that. Yeah, Arthur Miller: Okay. Don Currier: yeah, sure. Ralph Swift: Or Don Currier: Uh, Ralph Swift: j Don Currier: I'm Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: not sure what marketing thinks about it, but Ralph Swift: Ah I have to uh consult my legal advisor about it. Ernest Knodel: Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that Uh from Janus, the energy, the combination between battery and kinetic. The case will be double-curved and uh rubber, in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that with cover is removable. The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure, uh there must not to be uh Five minutes to go. Uh, too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated, but it must be not too complex. And the games are in it. So Arthur Miller: Okay. Ernest Knodel: I think we have uh we Ralph Swift: Consensus. Ernest Knodel: have decided uh, okay. Uh, little more. Ralph Swift: Oh. Oh. Arthur Miller: Oh. Ralph Swift: I I have one thing left. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Maybe for uh Jerome. Arthur Miller: Yeah? I'm listening. Ralph Swift: Um, the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view. Ernest Knodel: Like a like a moat or s or something. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: Um, Ralph Swift: Like at Don Currier: User Ralph Swift: In Arthur Miller: well Don Currier: profile. Ralph Swift: the experts view, you have Ernest Knodel: Yeah, Ralph Swift: a lot Ernest Knodel: but Ralph Swift: of Ernest Knodel: you Ralph Swift: more Ernest Knodel: have that Ralph Swift: buttons. Arthur Miller: What Ernest Knodel: in Arthur Miller: I Ernest Knodel: the Arthur Miller: was thinking about is just a menu structure, when you don't use it is simple. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Arthur Miller: And Ernest Knodel: You Arthur Miller: when Ernest Knodel: use Arthur Miller: you push Ernest Knodel: the Arthur Miller: uh system properties, uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Ralph Swift: Mm yeah, okay. Ernest Knodel: It's Ralph Swift: Fairly Ernest Knodel: already Ralph Swift: enough. Ernest Knodel: incorporated Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: a little in Don Currier: Well Ernest Knodel: that Don Currier: yeah, you Ernest Knodel: concept. Don Currier: you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself, for the more advanced users. Ralph Swift: Yeah, wh which buttons you Don Currier: Yeah, Ralph Swift: like Don Currier: which Ralph Swift: or not. Don Currier: buttons do you want to in it. Because you can Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: you can like build in a back-forward button, and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Don Currier: Yeah, you could you could m have people want uh Ernest Knodel: We Don Currier: want Ernest Knodel: take Don Currier: that. Ernest Knodel: it to the other meeting, okay? Ralph Swift: Okay. Ernest Knodel: I have a little Ralph Swift: Go on. Ernest Knodel: w uh little Don Currier: Ah, yeah, Ernest Knodel: chat Don Currier: sure. Ernest Knodel: to do and uh then we uh Ralph Swift: A Ernest Knodel: finish. Ralph Swift: little Ernest Knodel: I went Ralph Swift: chat. Ernest Knodel: to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh can come in handy uh for us. First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge, uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is uh like that. It's it's uh very hot at the moment, so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other Ralph Swift: Marketing. Ernest Knodel: uh marketing or did I said management? Ralph Swift: Management. Ernest Knodel: Oh. Just talking about Ralph Swift: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: myself. Ralph Swift: that's my function, Ernest Knodel: Uh Ralph Swift: to Ernest Knodel: W Ralph Swift: Okay. Go on. Ernest Knodel: What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote, just some uh Yeah. Import export. And uh Arthur Miller: Som Ernest Knodel: another Arthur Miller: some Ernest Knodel: one. Arthur Miller: bench-marker. Ernest Knodel: Uh, they're a ha they're at Yeah, benchmarking, that's the word I saw. I uh couldn't uh Okay, uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey, and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider, instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So, we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company, uh a trustful company, and uh Ralph Swift: How Ernest Knodel: it has m Ralph Swift: I know a marketing name for our product. Ernest Knodel: Okay. Ralph Swift: R_ th R_ to the third power. R_ three. Real Reaction remote. Ernest Knodel: I had a Arthur Miller: Oh. Ernest Knodel: I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh Ralph Swift: Mm-hmm? Ernest Knodel: a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing. When you uh put on remote, you see a kind of a just like when you telephone, you see a little Arthur Miller: Uh, Ernest Knodel: uh animation. Arthur Miller: logo. Ralph Swift: Bling. Arthur Miller: Yeah? Ernest Knodel: Real Reaction remote. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: And uh with the with the with the motto, we put fashion in electronics. And Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: then you go uh Ralph Swift: Yeah, okay, but it has to be like a split Ernest Knodel: The Ralph Swift: second, because Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ralph Swift: you have to put in a Arthur Miller: Well, Ralph Swift: code also and Arthur Miller: you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds, they'll still remember it. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: Yeah. Arthur Miller: And it it l Ernest Knodel: But Arthur Miller: linger Ernest Knodel: w Arthur Miller: on every time you see Ernest Knodel: th Arthur Miller: it. Ernest Knodel: the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own. Don Currier: Well, if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen, you can you can uh have a small logo i uh at the Ralph Swift: Yeah. Don Currier: bottom. And it could just stay Ralph Swift: That Don Currier: there. Ralph Swift: spins Ernest Knodel: Mm Ralph Swift: around Ernest Knodel: yep, Don Currier: Yeah, that Ernest Knodel: yeah. Don Currier: spins Ralph Swift: like Don Currier: around Ralph Swift: all Don Currier: or Ralph Swift: the Don Currier: something. Ralph Swift: time. Arthur Miller: Very annoying. Ernest Knodel: Also also. Don Currier: Hmm. Ernest Knodel: But we we are uh Ralph Swift: It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Ernest Knodel: Yeah Ralph Swift: Explorer. Ernest Knodel: yeah y yeah Don Currier: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: yeah. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Don Currier: Yeah, something Ernest Knodel: Okay, Don Currier: like that. Ernest Knodel: but Don Currier: A Ernest Knodel: uh Don Currier: small icon. Arthur Miller: Yeah, Ernest Knodel: think about Arthur Miller: I Ernest Knodel: that kind Arthur Miller: It's Ernest Knodel: of Arthur Miller: ok Ernest Knodel: things. Arthur Miller: For Ernest Knodel: That's Ralph Swift: Okay. Ernest Knodel: what they said Arthur Miller: f Ernest Knodel: in the master class. Arthur Miller: Oh, for the next meeting, right? Ernest Knodel: N Uh, Ralph Swift: Who uh Ernest Knodel: next meeting starts in thirty minutes. So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh Ralph Swift: Who Ernest Knodel: once again. Ralph Swift: who gave you the master class? Ernest Knodel: The master class? Ralph Swift: Ronald Betenberg? Ernest Knodel: Franz Mehler's. Ralph Swift: Okay, thanks. Ernest Knodel: Uh, very special, uh next uh session. Uh idea that you uh the the industrial uh development uh centre and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype. And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. Ralph Swift: Ah. Ernest Knodel: And um, Ralph Swift will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation. But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email. Arthur Miller: Um Don Currier: So we're going to work together Arthur Miller: Stay here Don Currier: right Arthur Miller: and Don Currier: now? Ernest Knodel: Yeah, the well, uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I Ralph Swift: In the master class. Ernest Knodel: Not in the master class. Ralph Swift: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh Arthur Miller: P_. Ernest Knodel: But I think it was a very uh very good uh session, uh gentlemen. Arthur Miller: Ah, Don Currier: Definitely. Arthur Miller: no new Ralph Swift: Ralph Swift Arthur Miller: email. Ralph Swift: too. Ernest Knodel: I will Arthur Miller: Okay. Ernest Knodel: thank you all. Don Currier: Well thank you too. Arthur Miller: Thank you. Thank Ernest Knodel: And Arthur Miller: you Ernest Knodel: uh Arthur Miller: very much. Ralph Swift: Thank you too, Ernest Knodel: Give Ralph Swift Ralph Swift: lord. Ernest Knodel: a good evaluation. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Uh-huh. Ralph Swift: 'Kay guys, Don Currier: You wish. Ralph Swift: lot of success. Don Currier: M Arthur Miller: See you. Don Currier: Aye? Cheers. Ernest Knodel: Cheers. See you in a half hour. Don Currier: Hey. Ernest Knodel: But keep an eye on your uh Don Currier: Yeah, uh Ernest Knodel: laptops Don Currier: I'm not sure Ernest Knodel: for Don Currier: if Ernest Knodel: a Don Currier: we Ernest Knodel: real Don Currier: uh we Ernest Knodel: uh Don Currier: Because I saw something about individual actions. Ernest Knodel: Yeah, but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together. Arthur Miller: Yeah. Here? Or uh Ernest Knodel: That's Arthur Miller: Yeah. Ernest Knodel: not my problem. Arthur Miller: If you got Ernest Knodel: Bye-bye. Arthur Miller: a No. So Stupid Don Currier: Well, Arthur Miller: manager. Don Currier: yeah. Ernest Knodel: Ernest Knodel always works alone. Don Currier: Right. Uh Do you have new email? Arthur Miller: No. Don't Don Currier: Hmm. Arthur Miller: get what's	Ernest Knodel went over the agenda. Don Currier gave a presentation about the options for power source, materials and components. He recommended using kinetic energy, and having a double-curved rubber case. The group decided to combine batteries and kinetic energy. Ralph Swift reported on current trends among young people for fresh fruity colours and spongy material. He explained that the remote should look fancy, and be technologically innovative and easy to use. He suggested using removable customisable covers, speech recognition, installing some games into the remote, and implementing a parental control feature. Arthur Miller talked about having a simple layout with not many buttons. Most features will be controlled through the menu. The group discussed the various options and decided to use games but not speech recognition. After a lot of discussion they decided to implement a simple parental control feature. Ernest Knodel talked about what he had learned at a masterclass on knowledge management. The group discussed how to incorporate the company logo and motto onto the remote, including having an animated logo on the touch screen. Ernest Knodel gave the group instructions about what to do before the next meeting.	3	amisum	train
Rick Dadson: Wouldn't wanna be Project Manager. Uh what, we going to do. Um, once again I'm uh gonna take minutes. So, um no presentation for Richard Davidson. Uh, first we have a prototype presentation by G_ and G_. David Williams: Yo. Richard Davidson: J_ Rick Dadson: Afterwards Richard Davidson: and J_. Rick Dadson: some uh eval eval evalu John Atkinson: Evaluation. Richard Davidson: Evaluation. David Williams: Evaluation Rick Dadson: evaluation David Williams: criteria. Rick Dadson: s sorry. Uh evaluation crit criteria. Uh, in combination with the finance I um uh I received uh a an uh an Excel uh file Richard Davidson: Hmm. Rick Dadson: which we have to fill in later on. Um, you see. Uh, and Richard Davidson: Hmm. Interesting. Rick Dadson: then we must see uh if we uh stay under the twelve Richard Davidson: Ah, Rick Dadson: and a Richard Davidson: okay. Rick Dadson: half Euro. So, that's uh David Williams: Oops. Richard Davidson: Cool. John Atkinson: Mm-hmm. Rick Dadson: that's a John Atkinson: That's Rick Dadson: big John Atkinson: gonna Rick Dadson: l so John Atkinson: be Rick Dadson: let's uh wait John Atkinson: problem. Rick Dadson: it uh um David Williams: Some creative Rick Dadson: we have we David Williams: uh Rick Dadson: have must uh, we must have uh some time for that uh because it will be uh yeah, quite a lot David Williams: Oh. Rick Dadson: of mathematics. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: And after that, uh uh an evaluation of uh the process how we uh how we have done it here with the SMARTboard, with the with our laptops, with the all uh all this. And uh afterwards, uh we closing. Once again, forty minutes, so uh David Williams: Ok Rick Dadson: let's start. David Williams: okay. Rick Dadson: I would g give the word to um G_ and G_ for the prototype David Williams: Shall I Rick Dadson: presentation. David Williams: give a short introduction and then uh John Atkinson: Yeah, well sure. Richard Davidson: J_ and J_. David Williams: Okay. Rick Dadson: J_ and J_. Richard Davidson: Jane and Jane. David Williams: J_ and J_, okay. Richard Davidson: 'Kay guys, take it away. John Atkinson: Hi. David Williams: Take it away. David Williams: Um, this was our first concept. We decided to use a single touch-screen. So, we've worked out this concepts, how to how to hold it, where to put the buttons and and stuff. And um, well, we began with uh a form of, that is uh is easy to hold w in one hand, left or right handed. So, we made i it a little bit less thick and uh it has some ar artistic meaning. No? This uh isn't nothing. Idea maybe uh is better. Um well, during the meeting I showed you the concept of uh placing the buttons on top, usable with your thumb, and uh the menu structure, uh if necessary, with your other hand, so it's just gonna hold it easily. And it has to be acce accessible with your uh other hand too, of course. So we began uh working out a concept. John Atkinson: Yeah, uh well, and as you saw, we would just have the basic remote with the panel L_C_D_ uh screen. Well, these would be the main buttons, h you could uh change them later on in your own profile if you want to. But, well it's standard they will be delivered with this kind of uh set-up. We have the more advanced menu uh setting right here. We the sub-menus and We made a top oh, or a front view. Just so like you wanna uh back view. As you can see, this uh there, there are uh two uh weird bumps in it. This is for uh the added uh effect of uh well uh y youth and dynamic. And uh this is for the artistic effect. Well, what we figured is uh we'll show you a picture later on you have more b a better idea after that. But, idea is for to stay in balance with these two uh with Richard Davidson: Hmm. John Atkinson: these two. And so when you put it on the table, it will just lay down. It won't uh roll around or stuff. But it will lie more in your hand like an old telephone maybe, or like these old Rick Dadson: Mm. John Atkinson: uh phones. Y you you may get the idea. So thi this is about uh how we figured it should be. The s panel we g you would hide with some more uh rubber layers, like we discussed early on. Uh, you would s you wouldn't see the uh straight panel, but more fluidly and David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: round. David Williams: the panel just uh of course goes like this. John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: But the overlaying layer is uh a little bit uh curved and stuff. Richard Davidson: Okay. Rick Dadson: No, okay. John Atkinson: And uh, in these bumps you could actually uh put some electronics uh that would you can make a more thinner uh Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: design, and that would actually David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: look very nice, yeah. And uh, about the colour, what have David Williams: Yeah. Oh, we added that this um can be held with your hands for this maximum is om yeah, one and a half centimetres. So, you have room here for your battery and maybe even other um electronic chips. S Richard Davidson: Okay. David Williams: and you can just be the the layer of the touchscreen and some have some wires underneath it to make Richard Davidson: Hmm. David Williams: it as uh thin as possible in the middle for good grip. John Atkinson: Yeah, f uh, as colours, do you do you have the picture in uh David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: Oh yeah. Now, well this is the idea about uh the bumps. Uh, you can see there's a v a very uh youthful uh dynamic uh exterior. It uh you just want to hold it you uh you are young and uh dynamic Richard Davidson: 'S l John Atkinson: like Richard Davidson: it's John Atkinson: us. Richard Davidson: like an uh Easter egg. John Atkinson: Yeah, it's David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: like an e but this is for children. We we want a more adult version. But, this is like a remote control for children. Rick Dadson: It's called a weemote Richard Davidson: Weemote. John Atkinson: A weemote. Yeah. Rick Dadson: Weemote. John Atkinson: Hey, that's actually a brilliant uh marketing stand. Uh, David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Wait John Atkinson: but Richard Davidson: what I w got in mind. John Atkinson: So this actually basic the idea. We we just want to build a more uh adult vers adult version of of this. Richard Davidson: Mm-hmm. Rick Dadson: Yeah, I can imagine that. John Atkinson: And and for colours, we we figured starting with basic colours like uh white or metallic grey. Those are the technological colours actually, David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: so David Williams: It John Atkinson: it David Williams: would John Atkinson: d David Williams: be best to to appeal to a broad public and make the covers exchangeable, so the young people will buy an orange and a red and John Atkinson: Or David Williams: blue John Atkinson: blue David Williams: and a purple, John Atkinson: or whatever. David Williams: but when the o older people uh go in the shop and they see uh an orange um remote control, it would be less appealing than a white one. And young Richard Davidson: Hmm. David Williams: people, we think, are a little bit more flexible, they think, ah I'll buy for a couple of Euros Richard Davidson: Hmm. David Williams: some noi nice hip Richard Davidson: Maybe David Williams: uh Richard Davidson: it's an idea to sell it without a cover, so David Williams: Well, Richard Davidson: that can a in the David Williams: um Richard Davidson: in the shop. David Williams: I think a cover is necessary, 'cause als otherwise Richard Davidson: Yeah, okay. David Williams: you'll just Richard Davidson: Yeah, okay. David Williams: have the L_C_D_ screen. So, there must be some cheap standard cover, Richard Davidson: Hmm. David Williams: um maybe Richard Davidson: Mm. David Williams: white or something, that's could comes with it and you can buy, so we can make extra Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: money. Rick Dadson: but uh you Richard Davidson: Oui okay. Rick Dadson: d you mustn't forget that uh our target aim is younger people. Uh, we had decided to uh put uh some flashy fruity colours in it, uh and uh in the survey from uh Milan and Paris uh it uh it came out that uh uh the d the older people are uh more willing to uh to spend money on extra features. David Williams: Okay. Rick Dadson: So I think uh it will be a better idea to have some uh flashy David Williams: The other way around, Rick Dadson: fruity colours David Williams: you mean. Rick Dadson: as as a standard, John Atkinson: Oh Rick Dadson: and John Atkinson: yeah. Rick Dadson: for the people who uh really want uh a more sophisticated, more traditional David Williams: Uh-huh. Rick Dadson: look, they're willing to pay uh that. John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: They want uh they want more luxury stuff, but they have the money to do it and David Williams: Mm-hmm. Rick Dadson: they want to b to buy that. David Williams: Okay. Rick Dadson: So, maybe Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: it's an idea to put that as an extra and John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: not as a standard. John Atkinson: Yeah, maybe yeah, perhaps you're right. Uh, I I would I would actually agree with this sounds logical. David Williams: Okay, Richard Davidson: An another David Williams: yeah. Richard Davidson: idea. Uh, maybe we could uh develop a cover uh with wood style. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: They'll please the elder users as well. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Well yeah, a colour of a wood style, a white c and uh a couple of h hip uh fruity colours. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yes. John Atkinson: Nah. David Williams: And lea John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: uh l delivered standard with a fruity colour, but not too Richard Davidson: Not not too David Williams: not too Richard Davidson: uh David Williams: much. This is Richard Davidson: yeah. David Williams: banana and mango, not not purple or p orange and Richard Davidson: Yeah, exactly. David Williams: yellow. Rick Dadson: Yeah. But, Richard Davidson: Yeah. Or Rick Dadson: the Richard Davidson: blue Rick Dadson: mai I Richard Davidson: or Rick Dadson: think th uh the standard must be some kind of uh uh attractive flashy colours. Not David Williams: Ah. Rick Dadson: too, but David Williams: Mm-hmm. Rick Dadson: w a little, John Atkinson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: because John Atkinson: li like Rick Dadson: that's David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: our John Atkinson: like Rick Dadson: aim. John Atkinson: this like this. This Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: isn't this isn't too David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: much, David Williams: okay. John Atkinson: is it? I David Williams: No. John Atkinson: f David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Well, the buttons Richard Davidson: Well John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: don't Richard Davidson: I Rick Dadson: have John Atkinson: The Rick Dadson: to Richard Davidson: I John Atkinson: buttons, Rick Dadson: be Richard Davidson: I think Rick Dadson: uh John Atkinson: I Rick Dadson: all Richard Davidson: so. Rick Dadson: uh Richard Davidson: Yeah, except Rick Dadson: all of Richard Davidson: for the buttons it's Rick Dadson: yeah. Richard Davidson: it could Rick Dadson: It Richard Davidson: be a standard model. David Williams: Okay. Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: Yeah, uh something like this would be nice. Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: Okay. John Atkinson: Okay, that's that's it from us. Rick Dadson: Thank you. Richard Davidson: 'Kay, it's my time now. David Williams: It's my turn. Rick Dadson: Richard Davidson. John Atkinson: Uh-oh. Richard Davidson: Okay. During the Oh. During the design uh design life-cycle Rick Dadson: Sorry. Richard Davidson: we uh we made lot of requirements and trend analysis and stuff. Um, now is the time to uh evaluate our prototype concept to uh to the past requirements. So we are going to evaluate the design according to the past user requirements and trends analysis. Um, we're going to do that with a seven point scale. Opening a Word document now. Richard Davidson: Okay. One oh, okay, uh I have to expla explain something. We have to uh be consensive about about things. So, it has to be a group uh group decision. Okay? Rick Dadson: Okay, so Richard Davidson: Uh Rick Dadson: we gon we gonna evaluate Richard Davidson: We're going to Rick Dadson: the Richard Davidson: vote. We yeah? The Rick Dadson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: prototype. Rick Dadson: the the thing we saw. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Okay, just saw. Richard Davidson: Okay, one. The remote control is designed for people with age below forty. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Seven? Richard Davidson: Seven is false. Rick Dadson: Uh, true. Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: Sorry. Richard Davidson: b one or Rick Dadson: Yeah, one I think. Richard Davidson: Most John Atkinson: Why? Richard Davidson: true? John Atkinson: Yeah, it's not David Williams: Mm. John Atkinson: just uh designed for people under the age of forty. It's also designed for people above Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: forty. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: so so John Atkinson: So Richard Davidson: a o one is appropriate? Or, David Williams: No no, a little Richard Davidson: more David Williams: more Richard Davidson: like a David Williams: in Richard Davidson: four. David Williams: the middle. No, John Atkinson: I have Richard Davidson: Three. David Williams: uh John Atkinson: I've David Williams: three or yeah. John Atkinson: Yeah, two or three, because it's not just uh the qu question Rick Dadson: Okay. John Atkinson: is aimed at is it designed for people with age below forty. But it's also designed for people Richard Davidson: Ah, John Atkinson: of Richard Davidson: exactly. John Atkinson: age above forty. So, Richard Davidson: Exactly. John Atkinson: I'll say it's about David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: three. David Williams: it will be primary Rick Dadson: Okay. Richard Davidson: Three. David Williams: appealing to to m minus forty, but Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: also appealing Richard Davidson: But also David Williams: to Richard Davidson: for yeah, okay. Uh, second. The remote control is beautiful. David Williams: Yeah. It's Wow. Richard Davidson: Yeah, acco according to us, it's one? Or John Atkinson: Yeah, David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: I I think David Williams: it's Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: the marketing uh John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: angle on television. Richard Davidson: Yeah, p s David Williams: We have a wonderful Richard Davidson: Of c of course you have to be uh very positive and uh enthusiastic about your David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: own product. David Williams: Well, it's also fancy Richard Davidson: Three. David Williams: then. Richard Davidson: Uh, the remote control looks fancy. John Atkinson: Yes. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: One? David Williams: Of John Atkinson: Yes. David Williams: course. Rick Dadson: Yep. David Williams: We have a perfect remote. Richard Davidson: Good. Four. The remote control has big, clear channel switching buttons. David Williams: Yes. Yeah yeah, oh they have to agree but John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yes. John Atkinson: Leads to user face, yeah. Richard Davidson: Daniel. David Williams: I'm the User Interface uh Expert. Richard Davidson: Uh, teletext buttons and volume buttons? David Williams: Um, Rick Dadson: No David Williams: uh Rick Dadson: teletext David Williams: no. Rick Dadson: buttons. Teletext David Williams: You you've Rick Dadson: is in the menu. David Williams: different Richard Davidson: False? David Williams: menu. John Atkinson: Yeah, false. David Williams: And volume Richard Davidson: And David Williams: is Richard Davidson: volume? David Williams: impo yeah. Rick Dadson: Volume is true. Richard Davidson: True. John Atkinson: Uh, hmm. Richard Davidson: Big and clear? John Atkinson: Yeah, the David Williams: Yeah John Atkinson: they are big David Williams: yeah, John Atkinson: and clear. David Williams: big Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: and clear. Rick Dadson: big and clear. David Williams: But you could make a teletext Richard Davidson: Hey. David Williams: button uh six. Otherwise, Richard Davidson: Hey. David Williams: the people who read Richard Davidson: Hide. David Williams: this uh are gonna think we have no teletext button. John Atkinson: Yeah, but but the teletext button. Yeah, you can ch Richard Davidson: It's John Atkinson: That's Richard Davidson: it's John Atkinson: in Richard Davidson: not John Atkinson: a menu. So, it's Richard Davidson: yeah, John Atkinson: w yeah, Richard Davidson: it John Atkinson: it it it it Richard Davidson: J John Atkinson: isn't entirely unclear, but So, I wouldn't give it a seven. I would David Williams: No. John Atkinson: give it a more a five or a six. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Five? Okay. John Atkinson: Uh, I don I don't know. What Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: do you think, Richard Davidson: it's it's John Atkinson: uh Rick Dadson: Oh, John Atkinson: Mister Richard Davidson: yeah. Rick Dadson: okay. John Atkinson: Project Rick Dadson: Well, John Atkinson: Manager? Rick Dadson: I agree. I was thinking John Atkinson: Hmm. Rick Dadson: very black and white. John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: Black and red. Rick Dadson: Thank you J_. Richard Davidson: Red. David Williams: Okay, Richard Davidson: Okay. David Williams: don't forget to save it. Richard Davidson: Volume. David Williams: Uh Richard Davidson: The remote control is easy to be found. David Williams: Uh well, when we put in fancy colours, yeah and John Atkinson: Yeah, it has these all these fruity colours and it David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: has a strange shape. Rick Dadson: Fruity. John Atkinson: So, if you so if you have David Williams: But, um John Atkinson: trouble finding it David Williams: it it's not making any sound uh, have Richard Davidson: Oh, David Williams: we Richard Davidson: okay, David Williams: deciding? Richard Davidson: but David Williams: So Richard Davidson: If you put uh your normal uh remote control under your bed, or you throw this remote control under your bed, is it better findable? David Williams: It'll make a difference. We have the better re I don't know. Yeah, I think so. My remote control's black. Richard Davidson: A li little bit maybe? David Williams: A little bit, Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: but yeah. Rick Dadson: Well, Richard Davidson: Four? Rick Dadson: we p David Williams: Uh Rick Dadson: we can Richard Davidson: Fi Rick Dadson: do it glow in the dark. So, Richard Davidson: I Rick Dadson: if David Williams: K yeah. Rick Dadson: it's in the dark David Williams: Fo Rick Dadson: place, David Williams: fo Rick Dadson: you still David Williams: yeah Rick Dadson: see Richard Davidson: Ah, Rick Dadson: it David Williams: fo Rick Dadson: glowing. Richard Davidson: I David Williams: five Richard Davidson: I I David Williams: is. Richard Davidson: think five. It's it's it doesn't really make a lot of John Atkinson: Well, then uh then I'll go for four. Richard Davidson: Four? John Atkinson: Because uh four is between three and uh uh also between between David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: true and false. David Williams: okay, John Atkinson: Uh, David Williams: you're right. Rick Dadson: I John Atkinson: so I'll Rick Dadson: think John Atkinson: I'll go for Richard Davidson: Yes, John Atkinson: four. Rick Dadson: Ah, Richard Davidson: but Rick Dadson: you must Richard Davidson: five Rick Dadson: see it as Richard Davidson: is between four and six. Rick Dadson: uh, John Atkinson: Wha Rick Dadson: w uh according to uh the the other uh remote controls, there may uh David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: uh Richard Davidson: B_. Rick Dadson: be there in your David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: uh T_V_ room, this one will stand out, I think. John Atkinson: Yeah, that David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: that's a better question Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: actually. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: it Rick Dadson: Exa Richard Davidson: it's Rick Dadson: I think David Williams: If your Rick Dadson: that David Williams: uh fifteen Rick Dadson: that's what David Williams: remotes Rick Dadson: it's about. David Williams: in a drawer, uh you find it, yeah? Rick Dadson: If it if this lying on your couch, you're you're you think what's that for kinda orange Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: uh thing. Richard Davidson: yeah. But Rick Dadson: So Richard Davidson: but the survey under Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: users was that they uh really lost it. David Williams: Yeah, that's stupid. Richard Davidson: Like, no not uh not seeing it, but lost it in the house or something. Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: Uh, but when Richard Davidson: But, David Williams: you Richard Davidson: okay. David Williams: lost it John Atkinson: Well, David Williams: you're just John Atkinson: if i if David Williams: not John Atkinson: you see a strange shape lying somewhere, uh then you'd uh recognise it as, whoa, that is strange. David Williams: Yeah, mostly Rick Dadson: That's David Williams: when Rick Dadson: our David Williams: you Rick Dadson: remote David Williams: lose Rick Dadson: control. David Williams: your Richard Davidson: Yeah, David Williams: remote John Atkinson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: okay. David Williams: control, John Atkinson: Yeah, David Williams: it it's John Atkinson: what David Williams: under Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: is Richard Davidson: I John Atkinson: that. David Williams: your John Atkinson: Uh, Richard Davidson: I agree, I agree. Okay. John Atkinson: so it's David Williams: Most of times Richard Davidson: Eight, David Williams: when you lose it you're sitting Richard Davidson: the remote David Williams: on it. Richard Davidson: control David Williams: Uh Richard Davidson: has fresh, fruity colours. Rick Dadson: True. David Williams: Um I would call uh choose two, 'cause we decided not to make Richard Davidson: Yeah, David Williams: two f Richard Davidson: yeah, David Williams: uh fresh colours, Richard Davidson: not John Atkinson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: too flashy. David Williams: as it would not. Richard Davidson: The remote control is made of soft material. David Williams: Um, John Atkinson: Yeah, rubber, is kind of soft. David Williams: kinda Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: soft, Rick Dadson: but David Williams: but Rick Dadson: not too David Williams: but Rick Dadson: soft David Williams: not Rick Dadson: we have David Williams: this. Rick Dadson: decided. Richard Davidson: Three? David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Three, yeah. David Williams: Yeah. Yeah yeah, easy to use, Rick Dadson: Easy to use. One. David Williams: very afford. Richard Davidson: Easy to use? Rick Dadson: Yeah, can it be zero? John Atkinson: Well, I don yeah, it is Richard Davidson: Top John Atkinson: kind Richard Davidson: easy John Atkinson: of Richard Davidson: to use? It's John Atkinson: It Richard Davidson: it's not the most easy to use David Williams: No, John Atkinson: No. Uh David Williams: you can do two, because um Richard Davidson: It can be easier. David Williams: it can be easier. John Atkinson: It could Richard Davidson: Jus John Atkinson: yeah. Richard Davidson: just with ten David Williams: l Richard Davidson: buttons, David Williams: yeah, Richard Davidson: that's the easiest. David Williams: but then you'll lose John Atkinson: Functional Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: function John Atkinson: ability. David Williams: f yeah, functionality and our fancy uh look, so. Richard Davidson: Yeah, but the most uh David Williams: But Richard Davidson: easy to use David Williams: It Richard Davidson: is just David Williams: is r Richard Davidson: with David Williams: it Richard Davidson: one David Williams: is rather Richard Davidson: button David Williams: easy to use, because you have Richard Davidson: on David Williams: the Richard Davidson: t David Williams: primary buttons always visible. Richard Davidson: Yeah, okay, but easy n not not the most easy to John Atkinson: No, Richard Davidson: use, John Atkinson: it's David Williams: No. Richard Davidson: I John Atkinson: it Richard Davidson: think. John Atkinson: I I'll go for two. My vote's Richard Davidson: Two? John Atkinson: on two. David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: m mine Rick Dadson: two. David Williams: too. Rick Dadson: Yeah, two. Richard Davidson: We also have to compare it to the uh to the remote controls on the market nowadays. So David Williams: Yeah, but waits just a minutes. Inspiration. Rick Dadson: What's the time? We also have uh to do the evaluation, David Williams: These are the Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: m Rick Dadson: the production David Williams: regular Rick Dadson: costs David Williams: remotes. Rick Dadson: and uh stuff. Richard Davidson: Yeah yeah, I'm uh hurrying. Okay, eleven. The remote control is innovative. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Yes, John Atkinson: Yes. David Williams: true, one. Richard Davidson: A very Rick Dadson: You're agree, Tim? Richard Davidson: of course. Rick Dadson: You haven't seen a more innovative uh thing in uh Richard Davidson: The remote Rick Dadson: Paris? Richard Davidson: control has m remova removable from David Williams: Yes, Richard Davidson: Multilux. David Williams: one. Very multifunctional. No. Richard Davidson: The remote control, i it has speech recognition. False. John Atkinson: Yes, Rick Dadson: False. John Atkinson: it David Williams: This is used with speech recognition, this. Richard Davidson: The remote control has built-in games? David Williams: Yes. But uh, maybe make it two, because the games are in a sub-menu and not uh it's not an entire Rick Dadson: Yeah, but David Williams: game. Rick Dadson: they are built in, so it's one. John Atkinson: Yeah, they are built in. Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: Yeah, okay. John Atkinson: Not down. Rick Dadson: Okay. Richard Davidson: And the last, paren parental advisory function. David Williams: Yes. John Atkinson: You really like the parental Rick Dadson: Freak. John Atkinson: advisory. Richard Davidson: Yes, David Williams: Th did Richard Davidson: I do. David Williams: you make this or John Atkinson: Bu David Williams: the Richard Davidson: Save as. John Atkinson: Yeah, he made it. David Williams: Yeah, It changes it maybe. Richard Davidson: Okay, I will uh David Williams: Oh yay. Richard Davidson: do the the math. David Williams: Oh dear. Richard Davidson: Now it's your turn. Rick Dadson: Okay, thank you. We'll see. David Williams: Hmm? Rick Dadson: Mm. Rick Dadson: Okay, we have now to c uh to calculate the production cost. If it's under uh twelve and half Euro, then it's uh ok uh okay. But i is it if it is b Huh? No, this isn't right. Okay so, Redesign. David Williams: If they're under Rick Dadson: Oh David Williams: twelve Rick Dadson: yeah, David Williams: fifty. Rick Dadson: if they under Yeah. No. Oh yeah. David Williams: Yeah? Cau 'cause so Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: it's okay. Rick Dadson: it's sorry. Yeah, if the costs are under twelve and a half Euro, uh then we uh can uh ra uh move on to the project evaluation, as we have uh experienced it. Otherwise, we have uh do uh have to do a little uh redesign uh thingy. So to fill in the numbers of the component uh components. We have to uh fil uh, want to uh do it in and uh see uh if we stay under the twelve and a half Euro. So, do we have uh a hand dynamo? John Atkinson: No. Rick Dadson: No. That's John Atkinson: Richard Davidson, too. Rick Dadson: zero. David Williams: Battery, John Atkinson: Yes. David Williams: yes. Rick Dadson: Battery, David Williams: One. Rick Dadson: one? John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: One, Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: yeah. Kinetic, one. Rick Dadson: Kinetic, John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: one? John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Okay, solar cells, zero. John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Okay, uh simple John Atkinson: Uh, Rick Dadson: chip on print? John Atkinson: n no. Richard Davidson: No. Rick Dadson: No? Richard Davidson: Advanced John Atkinson: No. Rick Dadson: No, Richard Davidson: chip. David Williams: No. Rick Dadson: advanced John Atkinson: Yes. Rick Dadson: chip. Sample sensor sample speaker? David Williams: No, John Atkinson: No. David Williams: the advanced Richard Davidson: Advanced David Williams: chip Richard Davidson: chip is David Williams: is Richard Davidson: three. David Williams: uh Rick Dadson: Three? Richard Davidson: Three Euros, yep. David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: Uh, Rick Dadson: Yeah John Atkinson: we have Rick Dadson: uh, but John Atkinson: one. Rick Dadson: it John Atkinson: We Rick Dadson: it's John Atkinson: have Rick Dadson: one John Atkinson: one. Rick Dadson: one Richard Davidson: Okay, Rick Dadson: thing, Richard Davidson: one piece, Rick Dadson: it's Richard Davidson: yeah. Rick Dadson: three Euro. John Atkinson: No, Rick Dadson: Uh, Richard Davidson: No. John Atkinson: sev Rick Dadson: what's John Atkinson: zero. Rick Dadson: the sample sensor? John Atkinson: Well, that's um Richard Davidson: Speech recognition, David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: yeah, David Williams: you John Atkinson: speech Richard Davidson: I David Williams: give Richard Davidson: think. John Atkinson: recognition David Williams: it a sample, Rick Dadson: Okay. John Atkinson: and s David Williams: uh one. Rick Dadson: Zero. Uh, uncurved flat. David Williams: No. Richard Davidson: No. John Atkinson: A zero. Rick Dadson: No. But is it s Richard Davidson: No. David Williams: You Rick Dadson: it's David Williams: no. Rick Dadson: not made from a single uncurved thingy John Atkinson: No. Rick Dadson: and John Atkinson: No. Rick Dadson: then uh Richard Davidson: Thingy. Rick Dadson: and then uh no? Okay. So it's only uh once double-curved. John Atkinson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yes, David Williams: Yeah, 'cause Richard Davidson: three. David Williams: um the Richard Davidson: Eight. David Williams: layer around it fits around the bubbles on the o on the uh Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: the back Rick Dadson: We're David Williams: of Rick Dadson: now in a David Williams: the Rick Dadson: problem, 'cause uh we have uh reached eleven Euro David Williams: Uh, Rick Dadson: yet. David Williams: we don't have anything else. So Richard Davidson: Okay, go on. Rick Dadson: Okay, Richard Davidson: Just Rick Dadson: but Richard Davidson: go on. Rick Dadson: uh John Atkinson: Just Rick Dadson: we John Atkinson: go Rick Dadson: have John Atkinson: on. Then we'll see uh we'll we'll see uh wha how much we are over budget. Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: Could you step a little to the Richard Davidson: Two. David Williams: right ma Yeah. Oh, sorry. Richard Davidson: Two. Rick Dadson: Uh, rubber. David Williams: Or Rick Dadson: You. John Atkinson: Zero. David Williams: And Rick Dadson: Titanium, David Williams: zero. Rick Dadson: no? David Williams: Special uh is the special Rick Dadson: Special David Williams: colour? Rick Dadson: colour? David Williams: Mm. John Atkinson: I don't think so. No, Richard Davidson: No. John Atkinson: this is a standard colour. David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: Yes, Richard Davidson: S John Atkinson: this is a special Rick Dadson: Yeah, John Atkinson: colour. Rick Dadson: but we want to make uh the wood colours, uh that uh David Williams: Yeah, if if you're honest, we'll uh type one, Richard Davidson: Yeah, but David Williams: special colour. John Atkinson: That's Richard Davidson: but John Atkinson: an add-on. Richard Davidson: D but Daniel, tha Rick Dadson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: that's Rick Dadson: one. Richard Davidson: that's another brand. That's another article to sell. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yeah, but we we going to yeah yeah, that's true. But yeah, it's it's David Williams: Uh, Richard Davidson: That doesn't Rick Dadson: it David Williams: j Richard Davidson: account for this. David Williams: maybe we'll finish Richard Davidson: Producing David Williams: uh the Richard Davidson: this. David Williams: the list first and then look back, Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: aye? Rick Dadson: the push-button, no. David Williams: No. Scroll wheel, no. Rick Dadson: Scroll-wheel, no. David Williams: No. Rick Dadson: No. Oh, no. Yes, one. David Williams: One, Rick Dadson: Uh, David Williams: yeah. Rick Dadson: button, no. John Atkinson: No. David Williams: No. Rick Dadson: No, the David Williams: Mm, Rick Dadson: the we David Williams: is John Atkinson: These David Williams: it John Atkinson: three. Rick Dadson: don't David Williams: No. Rick Dadson: have a s David Williams: No. John Atkinson: Well, Rick Dadson: no. John Atkinson: we're only four Rick Dadson: Okay. John Atkinson: Euro over budget. Rick Dadson: Oh, okay. David Williams: So John Atkinson: But Rick Dadson: So, um what's the thing we can change? David Williams: No. John Atkinson: Well, other David Williams: No. John Atkinson: case, we can make it single-curved or uncurved. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Uh, David Williams: Mm, Rick Dadson: can I uh I David Williams: single-curves. Rick Dadson: say something? Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: No, can Richard Davidson: of Rick Dadson: I Richard Davidson: course. Rick Dadson: say something David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: uh as Project Manager? David Williams: Just cut Rick Dadson: The David Williams: off Rick Dadson: kinetic David Williams: the kine Rick Dadson: thing, David Williams: yeah. Rick Dadson: can we just skip it, because John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: Or John Atkinson: Okay, Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: yeah. John Atkinson: sure. Rick Dadson: you have to shake it, but that's not really innovative. David Williams: Yeah, we just put a good Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: battery it it. Mobile phones Richard Davidson: Daniel. David Williams: nowadays. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Daniel, Rick Dadson: Yo. Richard Davidson: what do you Rick Dadson: Sorry, Richard Davidson: think about Rick Dadson: yeah, yes. Richard Davidson: Here. What do you think about uh putting a battery in it, Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: but also selling like uh the covers, a docking station just apart from the from the thing, Rick Dadson: Mm-hmm. Richard Davidson: so that you can uh put uh rechargeable batteries in it Rick Dadson: Okay. Richard Davidson: and just David Williams: But you can use rechargeable batteries anyway, just you s you have to recharge Rick Dadson: Yeah, and not David Williams: them Rick Dadson: really. Richard Davidson: Yeah, David Williams: manual. Richard Davidson: yeah, okay. Rick Dadson: But we if you forget Richard Davidson: Just Rick Dadson: about Richard Davidson: an idea. Rick Dadson: the kinetic, David Williams: Yeah, John Atkinson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: that's John Atkinson: sure. David Williams: a Rick Dadson: well David Williams: cost reduc Rick Dadson: if we do that, we shall. David Williams: Ah. John Atkinson: Okay, well you Rick Dadson: So John Atkinson: you can Rick Dadson: um John Atkinson: go from double-curved to single-curved. Richard Davidson: Yeah, of course. John Atkinson: And that would solve the budget problem. Rick Dadson: Uh, David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: b David Williams: so we have to bake Rick Dadson: but David Williams: the ba back Rick Dadson: i David Williams: flat, Rick Dadson: but David Williams: and then Rick Dadson: the single-curved John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: is just John Atkinson: It's Rick Dadson: oh John Atkinson: just David Williams: No, John Atkinson: yeah David Williams: it's John Atkinson: well, the single-curve David Williams: it's just John Atkinson: that David Williams: one curve and not a back uh curved I think. Rick Dadson: Oh, okay, David Williams: Or John Atkinson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: okay. John Atkinson: Exactly, yeah. Rick Dadson: So that's David Williams: Or Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: are Rick Dadson: wh tha David Williams: these two curves? Rick Dadson: that's David Williams: Uh Rick Dadson: one option. And then w yeah, and then we could have it, Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: but uh it's its' well it's it's r it is the main point of the the the David Williams: Yeah, but what Rick Dadson: the look. David Williams: else uh do we have to cut out? John Atkinson: We David Williams: No John Atkinson: going David Williams: advanced John Atkinson: to cut David Williams: chip, uh that's a little bit of problem. Rick Dadson: No, tho uh Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: that that can be done. So David Williams: Although, Rick Dadson: uh, David Williams: can we make it with a regular Rick Dadson: okay, David Williams: chip? Rick Dadson: a little less uh conversation. David Williams: Curvy. Richard Davidson: Hey, those ar arcs, why are there for? Rick Dadson: Sorry? Richard Davidson: The blue blue uh Rick Dadson: Fill in Just a Richard Davidson: Okay. David Williams: Explanation. Rick Dadson: explanation. David Williams: Twelve fifty. Rick Dadson: I David Williams: Well Rick Dadson: can delete it for you if you want. Richard Davidson: No, no no. Rick Dadson: So, if we do this, uh we're on uh twelve and a half Euro. And we're done. David Williams: Yeah, but does it fit with our design? Do we have to u adapt Rick Dadson: Uh David Williams: it? Rick Dadson: well, the only uh thing that don't David Williams: It's single-curves. Rick Dadson: Yeah, single-curved, Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: W Rick Dadson: but there's a curve in it. So David Williams: Could we just make the bubbles uh cut off the back, and then we're uh has John Atkinson: Yeah, we just make it flat. David Williams: Okay. Richard Davidson: But, John Atkinson: But, you Richard Davidson: wha John Atkinson: do l Richard Davidson: 'Kay, look, what is the uh If you make it double-curved, it costs one Euro David Williams: More. Richard Davidson: more. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: But David Williams: You make it optional. Richard Davidson: No, but does it have a lot of extra John Atkinson: Function. Richard Davidson: uh David Williams: Functional. Richard Davidson: fun function more John Atkinson: Worth, Richard Davidson: like John Atkinson: does David Williams: Uh, John Atkinson: it David Williams: there's John Atkinson: have David Williams: an John Atkinson: added David Williams: a John Atkinson: worth? David Williams: a athe Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: aesthetic John Atkinson: No, David Williams: value, John Atkinson: um David Williams: but not functionality. Rick Dadson: Yeah, it's really Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: a Richard Davidson: uh Rick Dadson: static Richard Davidson: aesthetic. Rick Dadson: value. Yeah. Richard Davidson: I mean, uh you make like eleven and a half Euros profit instead of twelve and a half. But I don't know if twelve and a half is uh a fixed uh fixed price. John Atkinson: Yeah, well Rick Dadson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: No, we John Atkinson: let's Rick Dadson: it Richard Davidson: can't Rick Dadson: is. John Atkinson: assume Richard Davidson: go above John Atkinson: it is. Richard Davidson: that. Yeah? Rick Dadson: Oh. John Atkinson: We we should assume it i that it is. Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: okay. John Atkinson: But Richard Davidson: okay. John Atkinson: I I figured Richard Davidson: Then it's John Atkinson: that Richard Davidson: okay. John Atkinson: the kinetic would be a marketing promotion. R if you uh promote a kinetic um I kinetic remote control, I mean, that would b sell better than an a normal remote control. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Do you think? Richard Davidson: Yeah, I Rick Dadson: Well, Richard Davidson: think Rick Dadson: now Richard Davidson: so. Rick Dadson: you can shake your remote control. John Atkinson: No, well, y I mean uh, y you can go into your neighbour and tell him, ha, my k uh remote control is kinetic. Rick Dadson: Kinetic. John Atkinson: You David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: have standard old Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: battery control uh remote Richard Davidson: What David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: con Richard Davidson: a what about all the m the environment freaks? Not freaks, David Williams: Yeah, but Richard Davidson: the David Williams: it Richard Davidson: envi David Williams: doesn't fit in our co cost profile. So Richard Davidson: No. John Atkinson: True. Richard Davidson: I I think it's it's It look like this one. David Williams: You ma can make an Rick Dadson: Yeah? David Williams: an especialised extra gold version. Rick Dadson: Who because if you want to go to kinetic, you're uh you're on thirteen and a half and you must go to flat, and I think now it's it's more of uh a compromise David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: thing. And if you make the single curve ha just a big curve, then it's uh then David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: it's uh David Williams: just one big Rick Dadson: yeah, David Williams: curve. Rick Dadson: one big good curve. I was going to uh say nasty words, but I don't. This is strange by the way. Wood is m is is is cheaper than rubber. We Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: thought that wood would be David Williams: Uh, Rick Dadson: more David Williams: this Rick Dadson: expensive. David Williams: uh American figures. You just cut down some trees. Rick Dadson: Yeah, maybe. But uh that this is this is it? Yeah. Richard Davidson: This is it. Rick Dadson: Okay, this David Williams: Whoever Rick Dadson: is it. David Williams: makes uh a remote Rick Dadson: I'm David Williams: control Rick Dadson: gonna save David Williams: out of Rick Dadson: it. David Williams: titanium. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Yes. John Atkinson: It is possible, but you can't use double uh curves for titanium. David Williams: No. John Atkinson: That's one of the functionability uh Rick Dadson: Okay, well, considering we have Richard Davidson: Ah no, we have to do all those hours again. Go back. One back? Costs on uh No redesign. Rick Dadson: Well, we were above, so Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: we David Williams: We sue. Rick Dadson: did a little Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: redesign David Williams: We Richard Davidson: okay, yeah. David Williams: Yeah, we'll start her all o Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: all over again. Rick Dadson: um now uh it's about time to uh talk about uh this project. Uh, some uh things. Were there uh room for uh was there room for creativity David Williams: Um Rick Dadson: in Richard Davidson: Hmm. Rick Dadson: our meetings or in your individual meetings? Richard Davidson: I I didn't think so. That there was a lot of room for it. But, that's mainly because uh of the information that was delivered to us. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: It was just fixed information and get your stuff from there, and I couldn't Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: go on on i on the internet and search Rick Dadson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: my own stuff. Rick Dadson: yeah, Richard Davidson: Bu Rick Dadson: yeah. That's true. I agree with that. John Atkinson: Well, I th I think you two, uh especially you and uh and uh Daniel, you d you you both had uh the less creative uh roles Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: in the Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: project. Rick Dadson: That's true. David Williams: For John Atkinson: 'Cause David Williams: us, John Atkinson: I David Williams: there was John Atkinson: think David Williams: a lot of John Atkinson: m David Williams: creativity. We could just sign up an uh remote if we liked. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yeah, that's true. John Atkinson: I think Jeroen and I, we had a more design we could have more we had more room for creativity than than Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: you two. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Rick Dadson: Okay. Uh how about the leadership? David Williams: Uh Richard Davidson: Leadership John Atkinson: Ha. Richard Davidson: was uh crappy. David Williams: Crappy. John Atkinson: Nah, David Williams: Cra John Atkinson: the leadership wasn't crappy, it was the leader that was crappy. David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: Nah. Richard Davidson: Okay. Rick Dadson: Okay, John Atkinson: No, Rick Dadson: thank you very John Atkinson: the Rick Dadson: much. John Atkinson: leadership was Rick Dadson: Now John Atkinson: okay. Rick Dadson: we're done. David Williams: Yeah, example of crappy leadershi Richard Davidson: No, leadership was uh David Williams: Okay, yeah. John Atkinson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: Okay, John Atkinson: it was good. Richard Davidson: I thought uh the first meeting was a little bit of unstructured meeting. Rick Dadson: Yeah, that's Richard Davidson: Uh, Rick Dadson: true. Richard Davidson: you could have but uh, it was your first, no uh no disrespect or something, but you could have uh structure it a l little bit more. So Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: like, I I was talking most of the time the first meeting David Williams: You could Richard Davidson: meeting, David Williams: of said, shut Richard Davidson: and David Williams: up you Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: fool. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: But Rick Dadson: I notice it too. I was a I was also very uh unhappy, uh very unsatisfied uh about the Richard Davidson: About Richard Davidson. Rick Dadson: about the first meeting. So, uh I hope uh uh the the Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: Try to Rick Dadson: the Richard Davidson: you John Atkinson: learn Richard Davidson: made Rick Dadson: other John Atkinson: from Rick Dadson: meetings Richard Davidson: up. John Atkinson: your mistake. Rick Dadson: uh John Atkinson: And we will never do it again. Rick Dadson: get better and uh I Richard Davidson: No, Rick Dadson: think the Richard Davidson: it Rick Dadson: the last Richard Davidson: you did Rick Dadson: two Richard Davidson: better. Rick Dadson: meetings uh also we we reached uh some good decisions David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: about David Williams: more Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: more Rick Dadson: talk David Williams: consensus. Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: Ev Rick Dadson: yeah. David Williams: everybody w was Richard Davidson: Much David Williams: agreeing Richard Davidson: more constructive. David Williams: every Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: so uh that's cool. Uh, teamwork? Well, maybe that's uh only Yeah well, it's for us, David Williams: Well, Rick Dadson: because David Williams: we work Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: together on a project, but Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: everybody has his own task. Rick Dadson: Yeah David Williams: So, it Rick Dadson: and David Williams: is Rick Dadson: it's wo David Williams: a little Rick Dadson: more David Williams: bit Rick Dadson: like presentation and some points were discussed. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: But, David Williams: No Rick Dadson: really teamwork were you two uh Richard Davidson: Two David Williams: Well, Richard Davidson: guys. David Williams: it went okay. Rick Dadson: The John Atkinson: Yeah, that went w it went well. It's Rick Dadson: Yeah? John Atkinson: it's just uh Rick Dadson: No David Williams: Stupid Rick Dadson: hard feelings. David Williams: stupid John Atkinson: Nah. David Williams: pen, but uh John Atkinson: Yeah, we we had some trouble with the pen, but Rick Dadson: Yeah. Now you you must push a little while. David Williams: Yeah, but John Atkinson: Yeah, David Williams: but John Atkinson: but us David Williams: draw something uh difficult. John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: D uh just write your name right now. Try to write your name, Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: in in writing letters, of course, yeah? Yeah, normally, uh this uh the w Block letter sign it, yeah? Rick Dadson: O Just David Williams: Just Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: just write your name in Rick Dadson: okay. David Williams: in one line. If it's a little bit too small bit quicker now. It Rick Dadson: You David Williams: didn't Rick Dadson: can be you can go quicker, 'cause then it it won't notice it. David Williams: Uh he he knows how it works, yeah. Rick Dadson: I John Atkinson: Oh. Rick Dadson: follow the Master class for the SMARTboard, so I think that's the that's the main issue. Richard Davidson: Okay. Rick Dadson: Um, so uh Richard Davidson: Means. Rick Dadson: about this one you were uh you're dealing with, David Williams: Y well, yeah. Rick Dadson: um David Williams: Th the Rick Dadson: the the David Williams: i Rick Dadson: the the digital pen. David Williams: The idea is great, but it Rick Dadson: Okay. David Williams: doesn't work properly. Richard Davidson: Digital Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Uh Richard Davidson: pen, I thought uh th the first time I did individual work, I used it. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: But, a and the first two meetings I brought it with Richard Davidson, but I didn't use it at all Rick Dadson: No. Richard Davidson: after the first David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: No, I Richard Davidson: the first John Atkinson: have it Richard Davidson: meeting. John Atkinson: working. But, uh yeah, Richard Davidson: It's John Atkinson: well Richard Davidson: it's not John Atkinson: uh Richard Davidson: real real use for John Atkinson: No, Richard Davidson: Richard Davidson. John Atkinson: it doesn't have Rick Dadson: Huh. John Atkinson: that much added value to David Williams: Nee. John Atkinson: the Rick Dadson: Well David Williams: As uh as I said a m a c few moments ago, it I would like, myself, to write with a normal pen, because must um Yeah, it's almost the same concept, but Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: you can just sim more simply put it on our scanner. I it's the same concept Rick Dadson: M yeah. David Williams: as the pen, where you f have to download the software or s uh very uh Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: slow. Rick Dadson: And it is still your own handwriting David Williams: Yes. Rick Dadson: uh popping David Williams: No, Rick Dadson: up David Williams: and Rick Dadson: in David Williams: it Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: doesn't Rick Dadson: Word. David Williams: give any added value. Rick Dadson: No, Richard Davidson: Not Rick Dadson: uh that's Richard Davidson: really, Rick Dadson: true. Richard Davidson: no. Rick Dadson: No. And uh the SMARTboard is uh useful, but the the pen is I uh not user-friendly, I David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: think. John Atkinson: Yeah. David Williams: not user-friendly. Rick Dadson: Be it it takes a lot of time to draw things David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: and to David Williams: and Rick Dadson: write David Williams: it's Rick Dadson: things, David Williams: it's not Rick Dadson: and that's David Williams: very precise. Rick Dadson: the David Williams: We're Richard Davidson: Yeah, David Williams: trying to m to Richard Davidson: like when you do this. David Williams: Yeah, it may um Yeah, and tr try to wri write your name uh in a in a normal uh size, yeah. Smaller. Richard Davidson: Smaller? David Williams: Yeah, smaller. Just like when you're writing on a letter. Rick Dadson: Yeah, but that's not th the the you when you at a foreign audience, you b don't gonna wr uh write David Williams: No, Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: a as you Rick Dadson: small. David Williams: saw on on this drawing, just open open this one or that one. It's uh th it it Yeah, uh we had more problems even here when we trying to draw these buttons, it's almost impossible to get Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: clear uh when you're uh Richard Davidson: Oh. Sorry. Rick Dadson: But maybe there's some function with no, it isn't. With uh David Williams: And the eraser was another problem. It w t is is this large. And when you try to erase this line, Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: y Rick Dadson: Well, I'm gonna erase my uh name. David Williams: I'm gonna erase my name there. Rick Dadson: Yeah, it's a big uh big Richard Davidson: Okay. Rick Dadson: eraser. Richard Davidson: New ideas? David Williams: M Rick Dadson: Um David Williams: Abo What kind of new ideas? Rick Dadson: Well, the the idea of the touch-screen is uh David Williams: Yeah, uh Richard Davidson: Do you? Go on. Rick Dadson: I'm just uh David Williams: New ideas about uh the working of this software, about about Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: the project, about Richard Davidson: Mm, yeah, David Williams: the Richard Davidson: I think David Williams: remote Richard Davidson: so. David Williams: controls or Rick Dadson: I don't know what what I mean. David Williams: Hello. Richard Davidson: Did you heard what he said? I don't Rick Dadson: No. John Atkinson: Know what Richard Davidson: I John Atkinson: I Richard Davidson: don't John Atkinson: mean. Richard Davidson: know what I mean. Oh, I have some figure. Here. The Rick Dadson: Oh. Richard Davidson: eva the evaluation, Rick Dadson: Oh yeah. Richard Davidson: the mm the mean uh number is uh one point eight one point eight six. Rick Dadson: That's interesting. Richard Davidson: So that's fairly uh fairly good, I think. Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: because what does it mean? David Williams: So true. Richard Davidson: Uh, that uh Rick Dadson: All Richard Davidson: all Rick Dadson: the Richard Davidson: the Rick Dadson: mo Richard Davidson: requirements Rick Dadson: yeah, are Richard Davidson: uh are Rick Dadson: between Richard Davidson: true Rick Dadson: one and two. Richard Davidson: or very Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: true, Rick Dadson: Oh, okay. Richard Davidson: right. Yep. Rick Dadson: Yeah, okay. Thank you, expert. But the new ideas found for uh wi with working with this uh software? David Williams: Not really, Rick Dadson: Not David Williams: just Rick Dadson: really, yeah? David Williams: they have to improve it. Uh, the concept is okay, Rick Dadson: Yeah, I think David Williams: but it has to be quicker. Uh, it is still opening my programme, n almo almost uh my entire computer is locked up during Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: the process and it, yeah, just takes too many time. People will still feel the need to to write it quickly on uh a page Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: and not download it and save it, and Rick Dadson: You had expected it to to be uh more more uh David Williams: More user-friendly. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: 'Cause when you use a pen, you can just Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: draw like you d Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: draw normally, and Richard Davidson: May maybe David Williams: you do Richard Davidson: the idea you proposed is uh a screen here. David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: And draw it, and Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: it's it's David Williams: Yeah, that l Richard Davidson: placed over there. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: Would be easier. Or at least when you you don't have to adapt to the technology, just you can write in the way you normally write. Richard Davidson: Hmm? No. David Williams: And now you have to um keep constantly in mind that you're drawing on this screen. And that's Rick Dadson: Yep, David Williams: a very bad concept. Rick Dadson: yep. Yeah, that's Richard Davidson: Ah, Rick Dadson: true. Richard Davidson: very bad. David Williams: Nah, Richard Davidson: But David Williams: okay, I I it's my Richard Davidson: I David Williams: opinion Richard Davidson: think David Williams: that Richard Davidson: this David Williams: I Richard Davidson: is better than regular flip-overs, but David Williams: Yeah, it's can be saved easier. Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: But if you're in normal flip-over you a lot of people write text. There's Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: no text option. And writing text uh, yeah, you've gotta really do your best to write Rick Dadson: Yeah, and David Williams: some Rick Dadson: and maybe some uh functions for uh uh uh circle or uh a square. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: You have to draw it yourself now. David Williams: Or maybe even Richard Davidson: Yeah. David Williams: insert picture. If you have uh some presentation, Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: Or David Williams: and you have John Atkinson: text David Williams: some John Atkinson: function. David Williams: f John Atkinson: Just t t type text, and that David Williams: Yeah. John Atkinson: that would be uh excellent. Mean Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Yeah, but insert image isn't available? David Williams: 'Cause then you Richard Davidson: Here. David Williams: could Richard Davidson: Picture from scanner, clip-art. Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: Oh, Rick Dadson: that David Williams: okay. Rick Dadson: that can be done already. But David Williams: So Rick Dadson: not David Williams: you can Rick Dadson: the the the Richard Davidson: Hyperlink? Rick Dadson: the predefined uh squares I think uh Richard Davidson: Hey, what if you do like hyperlink? David Williams: With uh Richard Davidson: Type David Williams: W_W_ Richard Davidson: type it? David Williams: dot Google dot com. Oh Richard Davidson: Re David Williams: yeah. Maybe. Richard Davidson: Real Reaction dot N_L_. Rick Dadson: Hmm? Richard Davidson: Yes, Rick Dadson: Sorry? Richard Davidson: is now is okay. Okay? David Williams: You'll just make a link in Richard Davidson: Huh. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Well, that's nice. David Williams: There's one way to uh Rick Dadson: Is it Richard Davidson: 'Kay, double-click it. David Williams: Maybe if if you're not using the eraser Rick Dadson: Here. oh. Richard Davidson: You're erasing. Rick Dadson: Oh, sorry. David Williams: Something else th Yeah, Rick Dadson: Select. David Williams: arrow. Richard Davidson: Double-click Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: it. Rick Dadson: Here, that. David Williams: Okay. Well, Rick Dadson: So David Williams: it's Rick Dadson: you have as you saw, you have a little uh Oh, you can Yeah, thank you. You can go uh David Williams: Yeah, okay. Rick Dadson: there. So there the the the functionality is there, but it's David Williams: But. Rick Dadson: not it's not ideal, and it's it's very it costs a lot of time to uh David Williams: To use, yeah. Rick Dadson: to use. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: And that's a pity, if you uh if you have uh thirty, forty minutes uh David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: for this kind of things, David Williams: And Rick Dadson: and we David Williams: that's Rick Dadson: are now David Williams: m Rick Dadson: with four people, but it well, imagine you are here you're with the ten people and everyone David Williams: That's mostly Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: the case, from the over here with the managements you get two minutes to make your case, and if you Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: have to do all Rick Dadson: Two minutes David Williams: this kind Rick Dadson: of drawing, yeah. Richard Davidson: Yep. David Williams: You'll rather use PowerPoint and work it out in advance. Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: And th the one or two things you have to draw when you're Rick Dadson: Yeah. David Williams: there, just use a flip-board. Richard Davidson: What I really miss also is uh is a d is a turtle is a decision uh decision system like um With the evaluation, you have to Polls like, what do you want, a one, a two, Rick Dadson: Yeah yeah. Richard Davidson: maybe a David Williams: Yeah. Richard Davidson: a l a little application like uh uh give your own number and click one two three four five six seven. Rick Dadson: Yeah, just like he said with the with the a screen which you can write, also uh a Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: kind of Richard Davidson: j Rick Dadson: voting Richard Davidson: ju Rick Dadson: uh Richard Davidson: ju Rick Dadson: mechanism. Richard Davidson: yeah, v voting John Atkinson: Oh. Richard Davidson: application. Just Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: a little group group decision application. Rick Dadson: Yeah. John Atkinson: But uh, problem is, well you can't discuss anything well you you ca uh you can, but you will discuss a lot less than l like we did now. Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: We I mean uh w w w one one person s maybe said three. But, well uh I we said uh, no I w th think two, because this and this, and then you can react uh on it. But Richard Davidson: Yeah, John Atkinson: if you Richard Davidson: okay. John Atkinson: you put a three on it, uh just figure well, everybody knows what I'm knowing, so they'll all just put a two on. Richard Davidson: Yeah, of course. But, uh you can still discuss about it, John Atkinson: Yeah, but Richard Davidson: but John Atkinson: it would yeah. Richard Davidson: but click it in an application, that's a lot easier to process. John Atkinson: Yeah okay, the for processing Richard Davidson: The digit. John Atkinson: part. Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: But then uh, I think the idea of one person entering it and the rest uh discussing it, that uh isn't that bad idea, actually. Richard Davidson: Yeah. John Atkinson: Not that your opinion isn't valued, but but still. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: Okay. David Williams: Okay. Rick Dadson: Okay, so David Williams: Yo, manager. Richard Davidson: That's it? Rick Dadson: Uh David Williams: When Rick Dadson: well, David Williams: are w Rick Dadson: just about, because uh David Williams: When are we going to produce it? Rick Dadson: Yeah, tomorrow? Richard Davidson: Celebration. Rick Dadson: Uh, the costs are within the budget. Uh, Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: the project is evaluated. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: But, before we going to celebrate, uh I have uh a little question which you can't answer, because uh there must be some kind of end report. I am busy with the end report right now. You might thinking what the hell was he doing Richard Davidson: What Rick Dadson: uh Richard Davidson: is an end report? Rick Dadson: Uh about all the meetings, what we have decided, Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: a r r a report of this day. Richard Davidson: Yeah, yeah. Rick Dadson: Uh, that must be made, but I don't know, here is uh standing uh whoa, we can celebrate now, but the Richard Davidson: Oh, Rick Dadson: end report Richard Davidson: you ha you Rick Dadson: is Richard Davidson: have ten minutes left, I uh read. David Williams: Oh. Richard Davidson: You have now ten minutes left to finish up the end Rick Dadson: Okay Richard Davidson: report. Rick Dadson: well, that uh that can be done. Maybe we can do it uh together. You can see what I've uh Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: yeah? So John Atkinson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: I John Atkinson: sure. Rick Dadson: I s I will uh put it on a story-board. You can see it. Richard Davidson: Um Rick Dadson: Because I think it will uh it must be uh Richard Davidson: You you already made a beta version, or Rick Dadson: Yeah, it's a three uh with seventy five uh Richard Davidson: Pages. John Atkinson: Y yikes. Rick Dadson: Yeah, John Atkinson: Seventy five pages. Rick Dadson: just about. Well, just a moment. End report. Richard Davidson: Okay, Daniel. Do you want a chair maybe? David Williams: A chairman. Richard Davidson: Hey? Rick Dadson: No no no, I'm just uh Richard Davidson: Oh, okay. Rick Dadson: you can s you can read it and uh here here it is. End John Atkinson: So you Rick Dadson: report. John Atkinson: you finished it actually, and so we just have to read it and say yes or no? David Williams: Yes. Rick Dadson: Well, this not nit it read-only. But it's not uh fully Richard Davidson: Five minutes Rick Dadson: finished yet. Richard Davidson: for finishing. Rick Dadson: Um, this is about the functional design, the Richard Davidson: Management Rick Dadson: things Richard Davidson: Expert, you have Rick Dadson: yeah yeah. Richard Davidson: to change that. Rick Dadson: Oh yeah. I'm uh Richard Davidson: Marketing. Rick Dadson: when I said it, I remember I David Williams: It's Rick Dadson: had David Williams: a Rick Dadson: it David Williams: read-only Rick Dadson: here. David Williams: version. Richard Davidson: Yeah, but you can save it u the under another name. David Williams: Oh, okay. Rick Dadson: Marketing Expert, okay. Um about the three functions where uh which are most used and uh which must uh immediately be visible on our uh remote control. Um, it must be uh simple to use, very clear what to do, and at the younger people. So, this is really about wh uh what kind things uh must be in it and uh yeah. Richard Davidson: Maybe um the David Williams: Uh Richard Davidson: The Rick Dadson: Yeah, I understand you, I Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: can talk a little bit Dutch. Richard Davidson: You Yeah. No, you have to put uh, switch channels uh at the top, because that's the most Rick Dadson: Oka Richard Davidson: used function Rick Dadson: okay, Richard Davidson: and Rick Dadson: okay, I Richard Davidson: teletext at the second Rick Dadson: I really didn't Richard Davidson: Oh Rick Dadson: knew Richard Davidson: nay, a Rick Dadson: that. Richard Davidson: volume changing, second. Rick Dadson: So, this one's Richard Davidson: S Rick Dadson: first. Richard Davidson: switch, yes. Rick Dadson: You go there and you go there. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: So, okay. Richard Davidson: Okay, go on. Rick Dadson: Well, maybe I can then do it one two three. Richard Davidson: Yes, David Williams: One Richard Davidson: very good. David Williams: two three. Rick Dadson: If the order is in uh is Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: is uh important, Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: that's the word for. Richard Davidson: The order. Rick Dadson: Uh, then the conceptual design. Uh, well all the things we have uh discussed, uh the energy, which uh turn out to be uh batteries, so that's David Williams: Yeah. Well, okay, maybe you can add it later Rick Dadson: Yeah, David Williams: that we decided Rick Dadson: because David Williams: in the end Rick Dadson: yeah. David Williams: because of the cost. Rick Dadson: Uh, he here it is still double-curve, Richard Davidson: Single-curves. Rick Dadson: the rubber, the flashy, the fruity, the removable. Uh, John Atkinson: It's Rick Dadson: the John Atkinson: not Rick Dadson: buttons John Atkinson: double. Uh, Rick Dadson: Hmm? John Atkinson: it's David Williams: A single-curved. John Atkinson: not double anymore, eh? Rick Dadson: Not Richard Davidson: No, okay. Rick Dadson: double anymore. Nay but that this is what um John Atkinson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: Was John Atkinson: okay. Richard Davidson: initial, the Rick Dadson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: plan. John Atkinson: Yeah. Richard Davidson: The initial plan. Rick Dadson: And the the added functions like Tetris snake, it's under the parental control, the touch-screen. John Atkinson: On Rick Dadson: So, John Atkinson: thing Rick Dadson: it's John Atkinson: uh Rick Dadson: uh just a summary of what uh we had discussed uh John Atkinson: One small thing uh, the added functions. Uh, was it included in the cost? I don't think so, eh? David Williams: Ah, it's very cheap. John Atkinson: It's Rick Dadson: Uh, John Atkinson: very Rick Dadson: it's John Atkinson: cheap. Rick Dadson: very cheap, you you maybe you you you you come at uh Richard Davidson: No, it's it's not very cheap, but Rick Dadson: It's very Richard Davidson: that Rick Dadson: necessary. Richard Davidson: no, but it's a development inside corporation. Like, uh w we don't have to buy parental control. Our own people can Rick Dadson: Yeah, Richard Davidson: make Rick Dadson: but Richard Davidson: that, Rick Dadson: it Richard Davidson: I Rick Dadson: still Richard Davidson: think. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: has Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: some Richard Davidson: it it has some Rick Dadson: yeah. Richard Davidson: cost, but Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: He'll Rick Dadson: but David Williams: do Rick Dadson: so David Williams: it Rick Dadson: we David Williams: in Rick Dadson: can David Williams: his free Rick Dadson: discuss David Williams: time. Rick Dadson: that David Williams: So Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: uh Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: we can discuss that kind of things I think with the with the the board of uh David Williams: Of directur or directors. Rick Dadson: What's it what's the company called? I just keep forgetting it. Richard Davidson: Real Rick Dadson: Real Richard Davidson: Reaction. Rick Dadson: Real Reaction. David Williams: Yeah. Rick Dadson: Real Reaction, yeah. David Williams: You can ask Rick Dadson: Okay, David Williams: your personal Rick Dadson: so uh anybody uh misses something here about David Williams: Yeah, Rick Dadson: uh David Williams: the end conclusion. But uh Rick Dadson: Yeah, okay, that's that's what Richard Davidson: Okay. Rick Dadson: I'm gonna write b Richard Davidson: Still the end Rick Dadson: between Richard Davidson: conclusion. Rick Dadson: now. Richard Davidson: That's Rick Dadson: But, Richard Davidson: all, I think. Rick Dadson: i in here nothing uh David Williams: Um, the decision to make um the buttons on the top, and the menu on the Rick Dadson: Mm-hmm. David Williams: on the bottom. And Rick Dadson: Yes. David Williams: clearly Yeah, touch-screen you've mentioned. Rick Dadson: Yeah, touch-screen I've Richard Davidson: Yeah, Rick Dadson: mentioned. Richard Davidson: but but the the decisions are put in the uh conclusion, I think. David Williams: Okay. Richard Davidson: Why we decided to David Williams: Okay, Richard Davidson: use David Williams: this Richard Davidson: a flat David Williams: n Richard Davidson: uh David Williams: yeah. Richard Davidson: L_C_D_. Rick Dadson: Yeah, okay, well I gonna redesign uh something now. Richard Davidson: Yeah. Rick Dadson: No. Richard Davidson: Um David Williams: Party party. Rick Dadson: Because I think it will Oh, five minutes from to David Williams: Oh, Rick Dadson: finish meeting. David Williams: before you change anything maybe you um save Richard Davidson: Save David Williams: it first. Richard Davidson: it. Richard Davidson: Hmm. David Williams: You can't you can select file and export and then those J_ PEG files. Richard Davidson: Yeah, but then you had the same thing. David Williams: Well, eight. And we have uh, another blank one. Richard Davidson: Example of children David Williams: Did we change Richard Davidson: remote. David Williams: anything? Richard Davidson: Oh wait. Wait. David Williams: Wow. Yeah. It's a new uh commercial logo. Richard Davidson: Hmm. That's a pity. David Williams: Don't save it, aye? Rick Dadson: Oh, that's cool, Tim. David Williams: Uh, Rick Dadson: Finish meeting now. Well, David Williams: why are Rick Dadson: I'm David Williams: only Rick Dadson: I'm David Williams: the first five SMARTboard files Rick Dadson: I'm going to finish my David Williams: saved? Rick Dadson: end report. John Atkinson: Okay, um hereby is the meeting is finished. Richard Davidson: You declare. Rick Dadson: I am the one who can say that. Yeah? Hereby the meeting is finished. Yeah.	Rick Dadson opened the meeting and went over the agenda. David Williams and John Atkinson presented their prototype design, describing the shape and layout of the remote. The group discussed colour options and decided to make the standard remote in fruity colours, but with the option of buying different exchangeable covers which might appeal more to older buyers. Richard Davidson led the prototype evaluation and the group were happy with their product. The group calculated the production costs. The group were 4 euros over budget, so they decided to make the case single-curved and not to use kinetic energy. Rick Dadson led the evaluation of the project process. The group felt that only John Atkinson and David Williams were able to be creative and work as a team. It was felt that the first meeting was disorganised because of poor leadership but the leadership improved in the later meetings. The group were also had problems with the digital pens. The group helped Rick Dadson fill in the final report before the close of the meeting.	3	amisum	train
Chad Clark: Hello. Chad Clark: Dang it. Percy Harms: And then you have to place your laptop on the marked spot. Chad Clark: Alright. Percy Harms: It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here. Xavier Addams: Okay. Xavier Addams: No, that's okay. Xavier Addams: your mouse. Chad Clark: What? Xavier Addams: No mouse needed? Chad Clark: I've got a touch-pad. Do you know Xavier Addams: Mm. Chad Clark: how how I can wake it up? Xavier Addams: A touch-pad? Chad Clark: No, my laptop. Xavier Addams: Slap it. Chad Clark: You with your brilliant ideas. I don't know if I can touch the power button. Do you know how how I can wake Xavier Addams: Is Chad Clark: it up? Percy Harms: No. Yeah. Try the power button. Chad Clark: Oh. Come on, move it. Xavier Addams: Um Chad Clark: Now, wake up, bitch. Percy Harms: Huh. Xavier Addams: F_ five. F_ five. Roger Sanchez: I've lost my screen. Uh Chad Clark: Yeah, so did I. I closed Xavier Addams: I don't. Chad Clark: it. That wasn that wasn't very smart, I guess. Get back to Chad Clark. Yes. Roger Sanchez: I closed the Chad Clark: I closed it. Xavier Addams: You've got your name. Percy Harms: Yeah, my name is name. Chad Clark: No, I didn't restart it, I just closed it. Yes. Xavier Addams: Hope it working. Chad Clark: Alright. Roger Sanchez: No. Xavier Addams: Never close your laptop. Percy Harms: Yeah? Everybody's ready? Chad Clark: Great. Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: Great. Chad Clark: Thanks. Percy Harms: Well, welcome to the kick-off meeting. I uh forgot to put my name over here, it's uh it's Martin. Uh, so you all know. Well, this is the agenda for today. Well, the opening I'm doing right now. Uh, we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things. Uh give some um examples of the tool training, project plan discussion and the closing. We have twenty five minutes. Okay, the project aim is to design a new remote control. Chad Clark: Mm-hmm. Percy Harms: Uh, some of the oje objectives are that is has to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. So Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: now we all know what our goal is. Um, I oh forget I forget the whole acquaintance part, but we we all know each other. We all know each other's names. Joost, Chad Clark: Yes. Xavier Addams: What Percy Harms: Guido, Xavier Addams: is your Roger Sanchez: Yes. Xavier Addams: name? Percy Harms: Antek. Roger Sanchez: Antek. Xavier Addams: Antek Ahmet. Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: And Percy Harms: I Xavier Addams: Joost. Percy Harms: think we uh al already uh Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: been through that part. Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: Okay, it consists of uh three levels of design. Uh we begin with the functional design, then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design. Every uh level of design consists of some individual work, and we uh close it with a meeting. You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions, and uh you p you probably read that already, Chad Clark: Yes. Xavier Addams: Yes. Percy Harms: so I don't have to tell you about that. Okay, first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here, so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards, uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards, wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um there's a document folder called um the sh shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here, so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh, we're gonna Xavier Addams: Can Percy Harms: skip Xavier Addams: we see the Percy Harms: through Xavier Addams: white-board Percy Harms: th Xavier Addams: on our laptops? Percy Harms: No, no. Just on the on the screen over there. Xavier Addams: that Percy Harms: Oh, no. Xavier Addams: X_B_K_ Percy Harms: Probably is, but I don't Xavier Addams: but Percy Harms: know if the software is on the laptop. Is is if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting, so I don't Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: think it's I don't know if it's important. This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function, eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh, we well, we use the same file during uh the whole day, and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh. If pen is selected, yes. Oh, no no. Xavier Addams: With that pen? Percy Harms: It's not But it is pen. It's not working like a pen yet. Xavier Addams: Mm. Percy Harms: Huh. Percy Harms: Huh. Xavier Addams: Mm. Percy Harms: It's doing some stuff now. Xavier Addams: Little bit Percy Harms: So Xavier Addams: slower. Percy Harms: you can use a pen. You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks, and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward, which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So, it's quite easy. Uh well, now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right, we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh, every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics, on blank sheets with different colours, with different pen widths. Uh, I'll start off then. I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh, let Chad Clark think. Different colours. Oh. Percy Harms: Well, I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh, a fish. Xavier Addams: piranha. Okay. Percy Harms: Uh. Percy Harms: Mm-hmm. Xavier Addams: Oh. Percy Harms: I'm gonna use some different colour now. Some a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh. Percy Harms: Oh. Uh, colour. This is black? I think so. Xavier Addams: Yellow Percy Harms: Oh. Oh, this is just uh useless uh drawings but Oh teeth. I need teeth. Well, they're not supposed to be green, or whatever colour this is. Xavier Addams: Hmm. Percy Harms: Okay. What was uh I have su to sum up Xavier Addams: Different. Percy Harms: its favourite characteris Well, I like its uh sharp razor sharp teeth. Plus, uh the the big uh forehead and uh a small uh, well a small actual face. And I like its overall uh aggressive look and Well, that's what I like about uh piranha. Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: I think that's kind of what uh the intention should be. Well, who wants to be next? Chad Clark: Nobody, I guess. Xavier Addams: I will Percy Harms: You Xavier Addams: try. Percy Harms: go, Guido? Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: I will try. Uh Percy Harms: Uh, make a new sheet. Uh, it's by pressing on blank. Xavier Addams: Blank? Percy Harms: Yep. Xavier Addams: Okay. Then pen again? Percy Harms: Yep. Xavier Addams: Okay. Okay, um Chad Clark: Format. Xavier Addams: control. Xavier Addams: Uh Ah, purple. Um, I don't know what my uh favourite uh animal is, but the easiest animal I can think is is a bird. Uh I will Chad Clark: You know, Xavier Addams: That's my bird. Chad Clark: I thought of that actually. Xavier Addams: Yeah? Chad Clark: Yeah. Xavier Addams: Isn't it quite it's a little bit light. Uh, another colour maybe. A red one. A small one. Uh, line width. Two? Three. Oh that's okay. That's another one. Percy Harms: Well, tell us something about Xavier Addams: Ano Percy Harms: uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular Xavier Addams: Uh Percy Harms: birds. Chad Clark: Its simplicity. Xavier Addams: uh it's a Yeah, it's uh the most simple uh animal I know, I think. Um, I don't know. Maybe because uh there's there's some s uh free uh maybe in the sky Percy Harms: Oh, okay. Xavier Addams: or something like that. Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: Maybe a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. Percy Harms: Okay. No, uh Xavier Addams: So Percy Harms: it's clear. Xavier Addams: more uh birds? Percy Harms: N no no. We get your point. Xavier Addams: Okay, Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: okay, Percy Harms: Who wants to be next? Xavier Addams: okay. Chad Clark: Yeah, whatever. I'll go next. Thanks. I haven't Xavier Addams: M Chad Clark: got a favourite animal too, so Xavier Addams: Pictionary. Chad Clark: Oh. What should I draw? Xavier Addams: A cow. Percy Harms: Oh. Chad Clark: Thank you, I'll draw a penguin. Xavier Addams: Okay. Chad Clark: Yeah. I'll draw a penguin. Whatever. I can't draw, so you can start to laugh already. Percy Harms: I'll do Chad Clark: Whatever. Percy Harms: so. Chad Clark: Something like that. Chad Clark: Come on. Xavier Addams: Yeah, it's little bit hard. Chad Clark: Mm hmm hmm, orange. Xavier Addams: Orange, of course. Chad Clark: Whatever. Chad Clark: Oh, it's better than your bird. Xavier Addams: Uh yeah. Chad Clark: Everything's better than your bird. Xavier Addams: Yeah. True. Chad Clark: Whatever. Hey, it's blue. No. Whatever. Um, I like its ugliness and uh Yeah, whatever. The way it walks or whatever. Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: Your turn. Roger Sanchez: 'Kay. Chad Clark: Drawing. Roger Sanchez: I'm going to draw a cat. I don't know why, but a cat is a very uh smart animal. And you can have them at home. Which is not as the case with uh with bingwings and Percy Harms: Well, you can have a piranha at home. Roger Sanchez: Ye yes, Percy Harms: Huh. Roger Sanchez: yeah. Chad Clark: Or a line. Xavier Addams: A little Chad Clark: I Xavier Addams: bit. Chad Clark: mean a bird. Xavier Addams: Yeah. Don't mess with my birds, yeah. Chad Clark: Hmm. It's a handicapped Roger Sanchez: from Chad Clark: cat. Roger Sanchez: it. Xavier Addams: cat. Percy Harms: I don't think uh I don't think uh Darwin would agree with that. Roger Sanchez: It's Ah, it's not scared. He's crying but Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: He's crying because it's ugl because of his ugliness. Percy Harms: What do you like about it then? Roger Sanchez: Uh it's i most cats are small. Percy Harms: Oh, okay. Roger Sanchez: You can handle them. Percy Harms: Okay. Okay. Okay, Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: and then we are uh through the tool training, I guess. Chad Clark: I wouldn't call it training, but Percy Harms: Okay, this is uh something about the project finance. The selling price of our remote control is gonna be twenty five Euros. And our profit aim is fifteen million Euros. We're very ambitious on this one. The market range is international, so it's gonna be sold world-wide, and the production cost should be a maximum of twelve Euro fifty per remote control. So that's clear. Yeah? Xavier Addams: Okay. Chad Clark: Alright. Percy Harms: Okay, we're now gonna discuss some stuff when well, we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be. Uh, well tell Chad Clark about your experiences with the remote controls. Do you have uh know what good experiences with remote controls? Or do they Roger Sanchez: Yes. Percy Harms: annoy you sometimes? Are they difficult to understand, or maybe they don't interact with different kind of uh Xavier Addams: Hmm. Percy Harms: equipment Chad Clark: I don't Percy Harms: very Chad Clark: th Percy Harms: well? Chad Clark: I don't think the four of us got problems with remote controls, but Percy Harms: Yeah, Chad Clark: if Percy Harms: okay. Chad Clark: you see elderly people, all these buttons, and then they buy new Xavier Addams: Different. Chad Clark: T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever. Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places, and half of the functions a are removed, or whatever. Uh, so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons, you know. All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh Percy Harms: Different functions Chad Clark: Well, Percy Harms: of Chad Clark: one Percy Harms: of Chad Clark: area or Percy Harms: uh Chad Clark: whatever, not like the button to enter text on top of the remote control and the button to um, yeah, to minimise it to this this or whatever o o Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: other functions totally somewhere else. I Percy Harms: Yeah. Chad Clark: think we should group them. And same Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: for the for the volume buttons and the Percy Harms: And uh, Chad Clark: the Percy Harms: is Chad Clark: t Percy Harms: it gonna be a remote control that's um what it can be used for different kind of equipment, like your T_V_ and your Chad Clark: Well Percy Harms: home Chad Clark: I was Percy Harms: stereo? Chad Clark: I was Xavier Addams: Yeah. Chad Clark: thinking Percy Harms: Uh Chad Clark: uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or Percy Harms: Mm-hmm. Chad Clark: recorder, and not with a stereo, Percy Harms: Mm-hmm. Chad Clark: I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players, Percy Harms: But uh, Chad Clark: recorders. Percy Harms: the D_V_D_ players and home cinema sets often Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: double as stereo hi-fi sets probably. It's what, from Xavier Addams: But Percy Harms: my Xavier Addams: isn't Percy Harms: experience. Chad Clark: I Xavier Addams: it Chad Clark: don't know. Hi-fi set is uh Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: not often used uh as I know of in combination with television. Percy Harms: But we gonna Xavier Addams: It's only for television, I thought. Chad Clark: Yes. Xavier Addams: Not Percy Harms: Oh, it is only for televis Xavier Addams: I thought it was only for television. So Chad Clark: Yes, it is only for television, Xavier Addams: so we Chad Clark: but Xavier Addams: probably Chad Clark: uh Xavier Addams: don't Percy Harms: So wha Xavier Addams: have Percy Harms: what Xavier Addams: to have to uh Chad Clark: Well Xavier Addams: have Percy Harms: What Xavier Addams: the functions Percy Harms: wha Xavier Addams: for D_V_D_ player Percy Harms: what Chad Clark: well Xavier Addams: or Percy Harms: uh Chad Clark: we we're Percy Harms: what Chad Clark: gonna Xavier Addams: V_C_R_. Chad Clark: brainstorm Percy Harms: document Chad Clark: about that. If we think it's useful, we do it. Percy Harms: But, where where did it uh Where did you find that? Xavier Addams: Uh, in the email. Percy Harms: Oh, okay. Chad Clark: That's Xavier Addams: I thought Chad Clark: right. It's a television Xavier Addams: it said Chad Clark: remote Xavier Addams: uh Chad Clark: control. But Xavier Addams: Yeah, Roger Sanchez: Yes, Xavier Addams: television Chad Clark: I Xavier Addams: remote Chad Clark: was thinking Xavier Addams: control. Chad Clark: since it Percy Harms: Yeah, Chad Clark: is Percy Harms: but Chad Clark: useful Percy Harms: most Chad Clark: with Percy Harms: television Chad Clark: D_V_D_ Percy Harms: remote controls support other functions as well. Roger Sanchez: Yes, that's Percy Harms: So we can Roger Sanchez: uh Percy Harms: No, Xavier Addams: True. Roger Sanchez: something Percy Harms: we Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: have to Roger Sanchez: extras. Percy Harms: think about that. Xavier Addams: True. Percy Harms: Okay, uh Chad Clark: Yep. Percy Harms: but uh we've gonna put some a uh is is it so user-friendliness, is a is a pri priority in this Chad Clark: Yeah, Roger Sanchez: Yeah. Percy Harms: case, Chad Clark: also Xavier Addams: Yeah, Chad Clark: no Percy Harms: or Chad Clark: one's gonna Xavier Addams: yeah. Chad Clark: buy it. Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: Yeah. Chad Clark: I guess. Roger Sanchez: Only the Xavier Addams: True. Roger Sanchez: experts. Percy Harms: Well, Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: this the maybe is uh some aspect of the uh, or or some point at at which we can excel by making it very useful. That w Well, then you're you're the usability uh man, so this uh gonna be a Xavier Addams: Oh Percy Harms: very Xavier Addams: my Percy Harms: important Xavier Addams: God. Percy Harms: task for you then. Chad Clark: Yeah. Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: Okay. Well, other ideas? How can we make it trendy or something? Do uh by Roger Sanchez: Uh, Percy Harms: just sh shape Roger Sanchez: to go Percy Harms: and the look Roger Sanchez: with Percy Harms: of it? Roger Sanchez: to go with fashion Percy Harms: Maybe Roger Sanchez: and Percy Harms: a can opener underneath it? I don't Xavier Addams: For the Percy Harms: know. Xavier Addams: bear. Percy Harms: Or someth something Xavier Addams: Uh Percy Harms: special, like uh M_P_ three player inside Xavier Addams: I Percy Harms: of it, Xavier Addams: I uh, no Percy Harms: or uh Xavier Addams: I Percy Harms: Oh, Xavier Addams: think Percy Harms: well Xavier Addams: it Percy Harms: then the production costs are gonna be too high probably. Chad Clark: Yeah, Xavier Addams: Uh, Chad Clark: way Xavier Addams: I Chad Clark: too Xavier Addams: th Chad Clark: high. Xavier Addams: I think yo we have to keep it simple, to Chad Clark: Yep. Xavier Addams: get a whole market. It's international, Percy Harms: Okay. Xavier Addams: so Percy Harms: Maybe with different Xavier Addams: we have Percy Harms: type Xavier Addams: to use Percy Harms: of fronts Xavier Addams: a standard. Percy Harms: or uh Well, m has to be something Chad Clark: Well that's an idea of course, yeah. Percy Harms: spectacular or uh one which makes it We gonna skip back to the goals probably. Uh, Chad Clark: Mm-hmm. Percy Harms: original, trendly, and user-friendly Well, we al also already talked about user-friendliness. Xavier Addams: Hmm. Percy Harms: No, well something trendy and original, well that that goes hand in hand I guess. Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: When something is original, it tends to be trendy, probably, or we should make it combination of that. 'Kay, so you the um technical part of the process is something you're gonna look after for, so you have to think about what kind of uh equipment you want to uh, you know, you want to manage with it. Well, and that's an important part for you then, Xavier Addams: Use Percy Harms: with Xavier Addams: friendly. Percy Harms: gogors regards to the user-friendly Xavier Addams: Yep. Percy Harms: part of it. Well, and you uh should look out for what makes it trendy. Well, you know, y like some special feature. Or some Does it does it gets Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: some gadgetness or something. Chad Clark: Yes, what the market wishes. Percy Harms: Okay. Well, the closing. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Individual, I think so. The Roger Sanchez will w or the working design, of course, we will uh Already s said that. Xavier Addams is it a User Inter Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: User Xavier Addams: Yeah, Chad Clark: Yeah. Xavier Addams: yeah. Percy Harms: Interface Xavier Addams: Interface Percy Harms: the technical Xavier Addams: d Percy Harms: functions design. And the Management Expert of uh Chad Clark. User requirements specifi Well, this one was already clear to us. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. I don't know how much time we have left. Oh, not many I guess. We started at twelve. Chad Clark: You just got a message. Percy Harms: Oh, and what does it said? Chad Clark: And it said Xavier Addams: Oh, I don't Chad Clark: uh five minutes, so we Percy Harms: W Chad Clark: got four and a half. Percy Harms: Okay, well um Xavier Addams: I didn't get a message. Chad Clark: No. He's the Xavier Addams: Oh, Chad Clark: whatever. Xavier Addams: the Project Roger Sanchez: Team Xavier Addams: Manager. Roger Sanchez: Leader. Percy Harms: No, Chad Clark: Team Percy Harms: we're Chad Clark: Leader. Percy Harms: uh ahead of schedule then. Chad Clark: He is the whatever. Percy Harms: Yeah, close it. I'm Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: gonna make some minutes or take some minutes. And Chad Clark: Yes. Percy Harms: uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations. Xavier Addams: Okay. Percy Harms: You can all Chad Clark: Project Percy Harms: Or we're Chad Clark: joc Percy Harms: all uh Chad Clark: project documents is for showing uh on the white-board. Percy Harms: Yeah. Yeah, Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: but we're all familiar with uh uh Microsoft PowerPoint, are Chad Clark: Yes. Percy Harms: we? Xavier Addams: Yeah. Percy Harms: Yeah, okay. I'm Chad Clark: Alright. Percy Harms: gonna wri uh write some stuff down and then we're ready. Chad Clark: Okay. Percy Harms: Or we can leave already I guess. or Chad Clark: Yeah. Percy Harms: uh or sh or should we uh or is important that we leave at exact uh Roger Sanchez: No. Chad Clark: No. Percy Harms: Okay. Chad Clark: I don't think so. Xavier Addams: I don't think Chad Clark: Yes? Xavier Addams: Oh Percy Harms: Yes. Chad Clark: Great. Roger Sanchez: Oh. Percy Harms: We'll see each other in uh thirty minutes. Chad Clark: Yeah. Good luck. Percy Harms: Yeah, good luck. Xavier Addams: I will need it. Chad Clark: I will need it.	Chad Clark and industrial designer had problems with their laptops. Percy Harms opened the meeting and introduced the project, to design a remote control. The remote should be trendy, original and user friendly. Percy Harms explained how to use the SMARTboard, and the group did a tool training exercise, using the SMARTboard to draw their favourite animals. Percy Harms talked about the budget and projected profit. The group discussed initial ideas for the remote, including that it should be a simple design with grouped buttons. They discussed whether the remote should include functions for controlling video and DVD players. Percy Harms went over the roles of the participants and closed the meeting.	3	amisum	train
Joe Jones: Here we go again. Levi Diaz: My mouse is not working anymore. Joe Jones: Oh. Richard May: Oh. Levi Diaz: uh Joe Jones: Okay. Levi Diaz: when I put it in, is is going to beep beep beep. Richard May: Oh, I got a nice little screen over here. I got like this big black border uh on every side. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: Mm, okay. Roland Davis: Everybody ready? Richard May: I'll I'll fix it. Joe Jones: Yeah, Richard May: Yeah, Roland Davis: Welcome Richard May: whatever. Roland Davis: at the Joe Jones: it's okay. Roland Davis: functional design, again presented by Maarten. Uh this is the agenda, the opening. Uh, we've got three presentations. And I'm gonna show you some of the new projects requirements that were sent to Richard May. And we're gonna make a decision on the remote control functions. We have uh forty minutes. Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: Oh, well this is the the closing already. So uh well we start off with the th the first presentation then. think Joe Jones: Okay. Roland Davis: um in we have to do it in uh in right order. Maybe the Richard May: I don't know what the right order is. So Roland Davis: Well, Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: it Levi Diaz: Huh. Roland Davis: Oh that. It won't doesn't Maybe we should start with the the technical functions. Levi Diaz: Okay, how Roland Davis: Yeah? Levi Diaz: can I get this on the Roland Davis: Well it's you Levi Diaz: whiteboard? Roland Davis: dumped the file in the Joe Jones: In project. Roland Davis: uh Levi Diaz: Okay, Roland Davis: in the sh in the project Levi Diaz: I've done Roland Davis: document Levi Diaz: that. Roland Davis: folder. You've already done that? Joe Jones: No Levi Diaz: Yes. Joe Jones: can that open. Roland Davis: Well let's close this one. We'll just uh open a new Joe Jones: Open Roland Davis: one. Joe Jones: it there. Roland Davis: Uh, well. Yes. Uh-oh. New thing. Oh yeah, uh I have to say something. Uh, due to some uh technical problems I haven't uh digitized the last uh the meeting minutes. But Richard May: Mm-hmm. Roland Davis: I'll uh make sure that uh happens next time. Joe Jones: Okay. About the Roland Davis: And Joe Jones: get Roland Davis: I'll get this one uh in digital uh form too. Levi Diaz: 'Kay, we're going to um uh talk about working design. Um, the method of the remote control is uh electrical energy, it activates a chip uh in the remote. Levi Diaz: the television. Mm, it's a nowadays very uh known, a known uh uh technology. Um, the known technology can make a cost very low. Uh, it's a wild uh a wide sale uh of uh remote controls in the world. And and the components are very uh very cheap. Um, Uh, diodes, uh bat batteries and uh uh LED lights, they're needed and they're uh everywhere available. Uh, again, it's a fair price. It's a common uh technology uh, like I told um Uh, the circuit board, it's the most um important uh um part of the remote control. Uh, we can use for that uh fibreglass with copper wires, it's it is uh can be made as fast as printing paper. It's uh it's Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: all very uh Yeah, they're making it uh all the time. Uh, Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: and it's not uh very specialised uh technology. I haven't come to here, but um I've got uh some uh images of uh remote controls. They were not uh very uh trendy or just uh just a remote control like everyone knows. So I don't know uh why I should put it here. Uh Roland Davis: Okay. But it's the technical side of the remote control. Levi Diaz: Yes, but uh I uh haven't made it Roland Davis: Oh. Levi Diaz: because uh of the time. Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: Well, we'll we'll have to skip that part then. Levi Diaz: What? Joe Jones: Okay. Roland Davis: But you don't think it's a problem um to design uh the technical part of the remote control? Levi Diaz: No. Roland Davis: It's gonna be easy? Levi Diaz: Yes. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: But nothing restricted for user interface? Roland Davis: Yeah. Joe Jones: With Levi Diaz: Um, Joe Jones: technical Roland Davis: M Levi Diaz: no, Joe Jones: I don't know. Levi Diaz: it's uh Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: it's just a part of uh a known technology, yeah. Joe Jones: 'Kay. Levi Diaz: Remote control is nothing special nowadays. Roland Davis: R Joe Jones: Okay. Roland Davis: regardless of what type of functions we want to implement. Doesn't really matter. Levi Diaz: Um Joe Jones: But I kind of Levi Diaz: I don't Joe Jones: uh Levi Diaz: think so, Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: because of Joe Jones: Yes. Levi Diaz: the all Roland Davis: Yeah, Levi Diaz: the Roland Davis: okay. Levi Diaz: televisions uh Joe Jones: Uh Levi Diaz: there are a few maybe a couple of televisions with the new functions, Roland Davis: Okay. Levi Diaz: but is it useful to put them on a on a standard uh remote? Roland Davis: Well, we'll see. We'll see later on. Joe Jones: Well, the technical functions. Um, well I don't know if you got the same uh pictures as I got, Roland Davis: No. Joe Jones: but Levi Diaz: No. Joe Jones: uh I got these two, and I think they're we have to focus uh on uh the uh one hand the expert view or the novice user. th I think it's it's very much uh depending on the user requirements, I don't s uh know who's doing Roland Davis: Well, uh will Joe Jones: t Roland Davis: there be some uh user requirements later on? Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: The ones Joe Jones: but it Roland Davis: I I've uh received Joe Jones: I think Roland Davis: from Joe Jones: that's Roland Davis: the account Joe Jones: very Roland Davis: manager. Joe Jones: important to watch Roland Davis: Yeah. Joe Jones: uh what kind of functions there we want to uh put in a remote control. Roland Davis: Well, we'll keep this in mind, and then discuss it later on. Joe Jones: Yeah, well y we can put functions in it when uh yeah, when we uh get the user requirements Roland Davis: Uh-huh. Joe Jones: uh and we can Roland Davis: Okay, Joe Jones: update Roland Davis: but this Joe Jones: it. Roland Davis: real this uh big d uh distinction between this type of remote. we should we should choose one uh we should not compromise but uh really choose for uh expert Richard May: Yes, Roland Davis: viewer or novice Richard May: I agree. Roland Davis: v Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah? Well, what that's what you want trying to say. Joe Jones: Well, yeah w if you want try a a a huge market, if you want to reach a huge market, uh like elderly people and we have to choose for Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: novice user. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: But I don't know. It's it's really um Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: depending Roland Davis: well Joe Jones: on how Roland Davis: some Joe Jones: how Roland Davis: of Joe Jones: how Roland Davis: these Joe Jones: far Roland Davis: Uh, yeah. Joe Jones: the the the remote controls are already in n um Roland Davis: Well, some Joe Jones: in Roland Davis: of Joe Jones: use. Roland Davis: that will Yeah, but i but it will be more clear when we come to the uh u uh some of the new requirements. Joe Jones: Yeah, Richard May: Yes. Joe Jones: probably, Roland Davis: So Joe Jones: yeah. Uh well, there are l at least uh basic functions, uh like just th the channels uh one till nine, uh on and off switch, which must be clear with a red button or something like that. Um, most standard uh have volume, of course, and a mute function, and, of course, the next and previous channel. I think that's just basic what we need. Roland Davis: Mm-hmm. Joe Jones: And from that on we can user requirements what we need more. Uh Yeah, I just um um I thought Joost was looking at the trendy the trends in the markets, Richard May: Yes. Joe Jones: and I don't know if there uh are any um uh if you put more functions, more buttons, maybe it's com becoming less trendy or something like that. M you can just Richard May: I haven't really found a Joe Jones: you Richard May: conclusion Joe Jones: can k Richard May: like that. Joe Jones: you can keep it in mind that. Richard May: Yeah. Joe Jones: I don't know. Uh, I th I thought the the with less buttons you can make a more trendier uh Richard May: Design. Joe Jones: yeah, more trendier design, I think. I think. Richard May: Sounds interesting. Joe Jones: Yeah? Uh, well, that's all I have to say, I think. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: Yeah, that Richard May: Alright. Joe Jones: was it. Roland Davis: Well, then Richard May can uh Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: tell us something about the current market. Richard May: Yeah. It's alright. Um Richard May: Alright, done some requirements. Um yes. The working method um there were hundred uh uh w h one hundred people, uh how do you say uh, f watched using remote controls in the usability lab and they also uh filled out a questionnaire uh with a few questions. Uh, I've lined them up here. Uh, ask whether um common remote control looks good or not, about willingness to spend money on remote control, about zapping behaviour, and uh and stuff like that. I uh have found some interesting things. We do we do got a market. Um, three out of four people claim m uh to find remote controls ugly. So if we make a trendy design, we sure have seventy fi seventy five percent of the market, which you can reach. Um, three out of four users uh zaps a lot, as I uh quoted here from the uh results. Zap buttons are used one hundred and sixty eight times per hour. That's quite a lot. Um, relevant options are, of course, power buttons. Although, only used once per hour. Uh, channel selection, volume and buttons for text, and the more um, yeah, other functions, like audio settings, video settings, sound settings are not said to be very important and uh very much used. Furthermore, fifty percent says uh they only use ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. That doesn't say we got we can leave ninety percent off. But it sure um says we shouldn't make it too uh complicated. Fifty percent also claims uh to have lost a remote control very often in the room. And um an important thing here, the most important customers uh, which is over seventy percent of our market, is in the age range of thirty six to sixty five years old. And uh elderly people, our market, are less interested in uh nice features, but more willingly to spend more money on remote controls. So, what I was thinking oh, wrong side. We shouldn't implement too much features on uh on our remote control, because elderly people will get th lost. Group features for a higher usability, uh what I was claiming in the previous meeting. Um, all the settings, about audio settings, video settings and channel settings, which are not very often used, we could group them uh on one button and make them accessible uh in one menu button or whatever, because they are used very rarely and well, it uh there are a lot of options there, so we can really make uh yeah, how do you say, we can spare at buttons over there. Roland Davis: Okay. Richard May: And um, if you want to implement V_C_R_ and D_V_D_ options, group them in the button, not too uh Yeah. Small buttons, so they won't be very um, how do you say Roland Davis: Visually presents. Richard May: Yes, won't be very present, thank you. And a trendy look, well uh, although seventy percent of the market is uh consists of elderly people uh who don't really care for trendy looks or whatever, I guess it can do no harm to make it trendy for the other thirty percent. That was kind of what I found. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: Okay. Richard May: Okay. Roland Davis: Well, then we I'm gonna show you some of the new project requirements and then we gonna discuss on uh Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: what features we find important. Uh, well some of the uh new requirements make some of your findings quite uh irrelevant, I think. Because um uh s decided to put They have decide to put two additional requirements forward. Well, now I see Richard May: Two? Roland Davis: four. That's kinda strange. Well, they say tele teletext becomes outdated since the popularity of the internet. Well, I think Joe Jones: Well Roland Davis: that may be so, but well, we can't just leave the teletext button off. Richard May: No Roland Davis: It's impossible, Joe Jones: No Richard May: uh, Joe Jones: way. Roland Davis: I Richard May: I Roland Davis: think. Richard May: agree, I agree. Roland Davis: So the compromise we could make is just to make one teletext button, you know, like on and off, and don't make a lot of special put a lot of special features on it to Richard May: Not too Roland Davis: make Richard May: much, Roland Davis: it transparent Richard May: no. Roland Davis: or You know, it's just you want you want to be able to make use of teletext, but not to play with it that much. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: So we have to think of that. The remote control should only be used for television. Otherwise, the project becomes more complex, which endangers the time t t ma uh the time to market. So maybe we should leave all D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ related features Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: off completely. Richard May: Okay. Roland Davis: I don't know. I think that uh that's what they're trying to say. Uh, our current customers are within the age group of forty plus. New products should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty. So you uh talked about the elderly who were willing Richard May: Mm-hmm. Roland Davis: to spend more on a remote control and who were interested. But, well, they're not relevant because we are aiming at a younger Richard May: I don't really agree actually, to be honest. It's a very small market which we will approach then if we uh want to reach customers younger than forty. It's only like thirty percent of the total market. Roland Davis: Yeah, but it is Richard May: Mayb Roland Davis: it's Richard May: yeah? Roland Davis: is a dif it's a fact that the th th that bigger market you're talking about, we already cover that. Our company already sells remote control to the older people, but we we also want, you know, a new customer group. That's the one we haven't covered yet. So I think that's what the problem is. We haven't Richard May: Okay. Roland Davis: got remote controls for uh Well Richard May: Maybe Roland Davis: I think, yeah. Richard May: maybe we can compromise a little Roland Davis: Yeah, Richard May: bit. Roland Davis: I think so. Maybe if Richard May: Not Roland Davis: it's Richard May: too much then, bu Roland Davis: no no, Richard May: alright. Roland Davis: but I think we have to just keep in mind what the older age group wants. So maybe we can make a remote control that's primarily interesting for the younger group, but isn't that bad for an older person either. Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: Uh, our corporate image sh should stay recognisable in our products. Okay, something else nice to Joe Jones: But Roland Davis: know. Joe Jones: what's our slogan? Roland Davis: Sorry? Yeah, Joe Jones: The slogan uh Roland Davis: you will have to look that up. Richard May: Yeah, I'll have a look. We Roland Davis: I Richard May: put Roland Davis: think it's Richard May: the Joe Jones: Puts Roland Davis: something Richard May: fashion Joe Jones: fashion Roland Davis: about Joe Jones: in Richard May: in Roland Davis: the Richard May: electronics. Joe Jones: electronics. Roland Davis: Oh, okay. I thought it w might be, let's make things better or something, but Richard May: Sense Joe Jones: Sense Richard May: and simplicity. Joe Jones: simplicity. Roland Davis: Okay well, let's go back to the the agenda. So we've now had to the three presentations. We know about the new project requirements. That means we can uh well d yeah, discuss on the remote control functions. Well, if I can uh make a start, I think it's becoming more clear what kind of remote control it's gonna be, and I already talked about the maybe you have a f familiar with the rem remote control that has the the can opener underneath it. I think we're we're looking for some Yeah, we we're looking for a really simple remote control with only basic T_V_ functions. Y Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: Well, Roland Davis: well, Richard May: to Roland Davis: that Richard May: be honest, if um our uh aim group is uh till forty, not Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: older than forty, maybe that's not very uh yeah, we don't really need Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: to have a simple remote control. I think we can implement more functions then, because um Joe Jones: Yeah, but Richard May: basically Joe Jones: wha Richard May: uh the younger people are more able to adapt to new technology and therefore Roland Davis: Yeah, yeah. M Richard May: will be a more Roland Davis: yeah, that's Joe Jones: But Roland Davis: why um well a lot of um the use the requirements the the account manager sent Richard May, I think they are are c are contradicting each other, because they want a simpler design, Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: and no uh other uh s functions than just T_V_, but they s do aim at a younger Joe Jones: Yeah, but you Roland Davis: Well, Richard May: Yeah. Joe Jones: sai Roland Davis: ma Joe Jones: you said that that a lot of functions aren't used. So why should j we put this function in? Richard May: Well, Joe Jones: I Richard May: I Joe Jones: think Richard May: think Joe Jones: more I think uh people younger people are more looking for just a trendy look than uh more functions. Roland Davis: But I think uh you we can make some discuss uh distinctions in uh what kin in the, know, th th in functions you have Y Well you have different kind of uh equipment in your room, like a t Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: T_V_ and a D_V_D_ player. You can uh, know, you you can make very d you can put very detailed functions regarding the T_V_ set on your remote control uh with the with uh the, you know, audio settings and uh v uh screen settings. We don't want that. I think that was that became clear. We don't want. But w maybe we should put some func uh, I know that the younger people will most likely have a D_V_D_ player they want to, you know, they want to Richard May: Yeah, Roland Davis: uh Joe Jones: Yeah, but Richard May: control. Joe Jones: uh you Roland Davis: control, Joe Jones: said Yeah, Roland Davis: remotely. Joe Jones: d yeah, but th the functions are not in the remote control we're making. Roland Davis: No, yeah, th Joe Jones: It's Roland Davis: th the Joe Jones: n Roland Davis: user requirements of the the The new project requirements told Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: us not to But maybe w Yeah. Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: I think we maybe should Yeah, well we should uh put some functions for other maybe for other equipment on it. But just the basic functions. Maybe like rewind and wind, or n what d what Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: do Richard May: Not Levi Diaz: you Roland Davis: you Levi Diaz: can Roland Davis: guys Richard May: much Levi Diaz: put Richard May: more Roland Davis: think? Levi Diaz: them Richard May: than Levi Diaz: under Richard May: that. Levi Diaz: the same button. Richard May: Yep. Roland Davis: Yeah, if as far as possible. Richard May: Or we can u u we could put 'em behind the flip-flap or whatever. So Roland Davis: But what Richard May: t Roland Davis: do you think? Do th should we implement features that uh uh or functions that to control other devices? Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: No, you don't think Joe Jones: No, Roland Davis: so? Joe Jones: new requirements say Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: no. Roland Davis: the new requirements say so. Joe Jones: So Levi Diaz: But you can put a play and stop and and Roland Davis: Well, maybe Levi Diaz: rewind. Roland Davis: it's maybe Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: there Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: there there is Joe Jones: but Roland Davis: something th m most of the time these functions don't support the particular device as well as their their own remote control. You know, a lot of D_V_D_ players have some tricky Levi Diaz: Yes, but Roland Davis: settings Levi Diaz: we Richard May: Y yes. Roland Davis: with Joe Jones: I i if it's too simple uh th they won't use the remote control, Roland Davis: Yep, Joe Jones: they Roland Davis: exactly. Joe Jones: use their own th th with Roland Davis: That's Joe Jones: lot Roland Davis: that's Joe Jones: more Richard May: But Roland Davis: wha Joe Jones: functions. Richard May: but for for example, V_C_R_, that's better example in this case. Roland Davis: No no, you Joe Jones: No, Roland Davis: don't Joe Jones: no. Levi Diaz: Huh. Roland Davis: No no, you Joe Jones: Exactly. Roland Davis: don't need it. No, no. Richard May: just play, stop, rewind and uh fast Roland Davis: Okay, Richard May: forward. Roland Davis: but we have to think uh w we have to think D_V_D_ I th Richard May: Yeah, Roland Davis: uh, Richard May: I know, but Roland Davis: I Richard May: uh Roland Davis: guess, so um but uh from my experience it's kinda a lot of D_V_D_ players, you know, like forwarding, goes differently. Uh, you get two speed or eight speed or sixteen speed. Joe Jones: Mm, yeah. Roland Davis: It's c sometimes a bit difficult. Maybe if we just leave the D_V_D_ functional m uh Well, I was thinking about putting it in, but concerning the project requirements and what you just Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: said, I Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: think we m Joe Jones: but just Roland Davis: should focus on the T_V_ then. Joe Jones: keep it simple and look more at Roland Davis: And Joe Jones: th Roland Davis: uh and it's just an uh a complimentary remote and not a universal one. If you want to Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: keep it simple, you can make a universal remote. Joe Jones: It's only for television. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: So Levi Diaz: Yes, Roland Davis: It's Levi Diaz: but Roland Davis: just Levi Diaz: there are Roland Davis: a s it Levi Diaz: there Roland Davis: it should Levi Diaz: are Roland Davis: be something that is like a gadget on your coffee table, and it's just for when you you you jump on the couch, you pick up the Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: the the nice remote, the simple one, just Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: to put on the television, Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: nothing more. Joe Jones: nothing more. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: Exactly. Richard May: Alright. Roland Davis: Um, but Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: what Levi Diaz: how wi how Roland Davis: televis Levi Diaz: will you be able to handle a whole market? There are uh a dozen of uh dozens of of remote controls Roland Davis: Yeah, we Levi Diaz: that Roland Davis: we'll Levi Diaz: have Roland Davis: make w this one trendy. Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: And Joe Jones: The Roland Davis: simple. Well, Joe Jones: user Roland Davis: we we Joe Jones: interface Roland Davis: will come to that, Joe Jones: is Roland Davis: but Joe Jones: easy. Roland Davis: ju first on the on the functions. So we should put uh zap buttons on it. Um, also Joe Jones: And the Roland Davis: numbers, Joe Jones: basic Roland Davis: to uh to Joe Jones: yeah, Roland Davis: go to Joe Jones: basic Roland Davis: the specific Joe Jones: functions, Richard May: Yes, Roland Davis: channels. Joe Jones: yeah. Richard May: definitely, yeah. Roland Davis: Uh, Joe Jones: It's too much integrated Roland Davis: Okay, Joe Jones: in Roland Davis: a Joe Jones: the Roland Davis: t a Joe Jones: other. Roland Davis: teletext button should be there. But Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: just one big teletext button, on and off. Probably. Richard May: Yeah, and maybe two or three other options, but not nothing more than that. I think stop function is very useful. If you have a uh a page which consists of more pages, and you are not a very quick reader, Roland Davis: Oh, Richard May: then Roland Davis: okay. Richard May: I think it's very irritating if Roland Davis: Yeah, Richard May: the next Roland Davis: but uh Richard May: page Roland Davis: I think Richard May: shows Roland Davis: that Richard May: up, Roland Davis: becomes Richard May: but Roland Davis: too difficult, it's not a very common function and people Richard May: Well, Roland Davis: will have Richard May: I use Roland Davis: to read Richard May: it Roland Davis: up Richard May: very Roland Davis: on Richard May: regularly, Roland Davis: their remote Richard May: the action. Roland Davis: then. Richard May: I re I use it Roland Davis: Yeah, yeah, but maybe Richard May: quite often. Roland Davis: you s yeah yeah, maybe y you do, but Joe Jones: Will Roland Davis: I've never Joe Jones: you look Roland Davis: heard of it in the first place. And we have to well Joe Jones: Look at the market. Roland Davis: t yeah, and t and teletext is becoming outdated. We just want to see what programmes are on and what time it is probably. Yeah. I don't know. I think that that's kin getting too complex for our remote. Joe Jones: Well Roland Davis: I don't Richard May: Might Roland Davis: know what Richard May: be. Roland Davis: you Richard May: Might Roland Davis: th guys think. Richard May: be. Joe Jones: Yeah, I uh, it's Sunday I always use it for the uh yeah, for the soccer uh Roland Davis: Yeah, but do you like to have a such a s stop button? Or do you think it uh I think it's a kind of uh uh Joe Jones: Well, Roland Davis: very Joe Jones: uh Roland Davis: rare and Joe Jones: when Roland Davis: special Joe Jones: you uh Roland Davis: function. Joe Jones: uh when you look uh for example um, a couple of weeks ago I looked at the for the flights, and Roland Davis: Yeah. Joe Jones: there are a lot of flights Roland Davis: Okay, Joe Jones: in Roland Davis: it Joe Jones: one Roland Davis: goes Joe Jones: page, Roland Davis: Yeah, but Joe Jones: so Roland Davis: that's Joe Jones: if Roland Davis: kind of Joe Jones: if Roland Davis: stuff Joe Jones: th Roland Davis: we should do on the internet right now. That's Levi Diaz: Yes, Roland Davis: why Levi Diaz: but you Roland Davis: it was Levi Diaz: could Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: uh Levi Diaz: put Roland Davis: said Joe Jones: but Roland Davis: in the in the use in the r Levi Diaz: on Roland Davis: new requirements. Levi Diaz: the z on the zap buttons you can put it to uh to uh access all the same pages. If you have Roland Davis: Well Levi Diaz: seven Roland Davis: yeah uh, Levi Diaz: pages, Roland Davis: lots of Levi Diaz: you Roland Davis: new Levi Diaz: can Roland Davis: televisions Levi Diaz: go up and down. Roland Davis: can store pages, you know, and Levi Diaz: Yes. Roland Davis: then you can just skip manually through them using Joe Jones: True. Roland Davis: I think we should just put one teletext button on it. Then we meet uh the new requirements. we also meet the other thin y you sh you just re we have to choose for the the simple design, I Joe Jones: A simple Roland Davis: guess. Joe Jones: yeah. Roland Davis: Okay. Um, well, what functions do we have to decide on? Or do we uh I dunno if we have t stif specifically name all the functions we n we want. We have the zap and uh the volume. Should we do m make them very big? The the the zap button. D Richard May: I Roland Davis: d Richard May: think Levi Diaz: Yes. Richard May: the plus and the minus button Roland Davis: Th that's Richard May: should Roland Davis: that's Richard May: be uh Roland Davis: that's considered to be Joe Jones: But Roland Davis: trendy Richard May: quite present, Roland Davis: also. Joe Jones: trendy, yeah. Richard May: yep. Joe Jones: I don't Roland Davis: Or Joe Jones: know. Roland Davis: maybe you should place them on a uh, Levi Diaz: Maybe Roland Davis: in a special Levi Diaz: we can make Roland Davis: way? Levi Diaz: uh a kind of a joystick. Roland Davis: Yeah, something or uh somethin special way to to zap through the it has to s it has to be yeah, Joe Jones: Original. Roland Davis: and quick. You have Joe Jones: It was uh Roland Davis: to use it very quickly. Richard May: Yep. Joe Jones: True. Richard May: If you grab the remote, your hands should be on top Roland Davis: Yeah, Richard May: of the plus. Roland Davis: and it the buttons should make it um possible to to zap through your channels in a rapid at a rapid pace. Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: Oh, what should we decide on then? I Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: think in a in a case Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: of this simple remote control, the technical aspects which uh weren't worked out already, but it w shouldn't be a problem then. Levi Diaz: No, it's o just signals uh Roland Davis: Yep. Joe Jones: Maybe Levi Diaz: and Joe Jones: uh Levi Diaz: the television d uh does the rest. Roland Davis: No, okay, but we don't have to uh, when we don't want to uh control other devices, I think Levi Diaz: No. Roland Davis: it makes it even more simple. Joe Jones: Uh maybe we uh uh the batteries maybe. If you use large batteries or small batter batteries. Levi Diaz: The most Roland Davis: I think Levi Diaz: standard batteries. Roland Davis: I think Richard May: I Roland Davis: that Richard May: think Roland Davis: we Joe Jones: Yeah? 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But that's that's Do you uh have you have you think about tha thought about that? How we can what the extra touch can be. Levi Diaz: Maybe Roland Davis: Do you suggest Levi Diaz: th m Roland Davis: design or the shape or some gadget f f kind of feature or Well, it was something about how we lose them. Maybe it should be a remote control when you you clap you hands it makes some noise or some gadget kind of thing. Richard May: I think Joe Jones: To Richard May: that's Joe Jones: find Richard May: n Joe Jones: him. Richard May: that's more Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: for Joe Jones: That's Richard May: a Joe Jones: maybe yeah. Richard May: for an age range or uh ten to twelve or whatever. Roland Davis: I don't know. I don't know. Nah, um a lot of people like to have such kind kind of kind of gay kind of things. It w it w should be like a birthday present or something that you give Richard May: Yeah, Roland Davis: someone, and it is Richard May: yeah, Roland Davis: i Richard May: that's Roland Davis: has Richard May: good Roland Davis: something Richard May: one, Roland Davis: nice. Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: yep. Roland Davis: Or maybe it w should have a big uh light that can flash or something on it, or maybe it should or an or the like the the can opener. Maybe it contains some feature that you don't normally link to a remote control. I think it's very impor because we're gonna make such a basic Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: remote control, we have to do something to make it special. It's gonna cost twenty five Euros. Richard May: Ye I think the can opener i is a brilliant idea actually, because Roland Davis: Yeah, but Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: the Joe Jones: but Roland Davis: well, Richard May: television Joe Jones: that's Roland Davis: it's already been Richard May: and Roland Davis: done. Richard May: beer Joe Jones: yeah. Richard May: is not a rare combination. Roland Davis: Nah. Yeah, that's true. But and I think it's gonna be uh very uh it has to be sturdy or something, so maybe with Richard May: Yes. Roland Davis: with bouncing pads so that you can just throw it on the floor or something. it Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: has to be used something special, Richard May: Yep. Roland Davis: and you really it has to, you know y not s people, when they buy it, they have to think, well this one lasts for a long time. We're really gonna use them. Not some thing you you throw away next week, you know. Richard May: No, that's true. Roland Davis: So maybe uh that's i I think that's when uh when we decide on these type of functions, know, basic functions, uh it's very important to find something like this. So there's a very important task for you. And maybe we can all think Joe Jones: Be Roland Davis: about Joe Jones: original, Roland Davis: it. Joe Jones: yeah. Roland Davis: Uh, also for you maybe, when t you it's very nice when you can be entra when you can be trendy, and and Joe Jones: Mm-hmm. Roland Davis: uh and al as in a Joe Jones: And Roland Davis: friend Joe Jones: use Roland Davis: use Joe Jones: friendly, Roland Davis: friendly as well, Joe Jones: yeah. Roland Davis: you know. So Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: big buttons, flashy design, Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: and maybe some kind of gadget kind of thing. Joe Jones: Must Roland Davis: Uh-huh. Richard May: Yeah, Joe Jones: brain-storm. Richard May: a swapable front or whatever. Roland Davis: Yeah, or just different colours would be uh I don't know if people also wanna spend more money on fronts for their uh Joe Jones: Well Levi Diaz: For Roland Davis: remote Levi Diaz: the remote Roland Davis: control. It Levi Diaz: control. Roland Davis: could be be Yeah, you never know, but Joe Jones: Why not? Richard May: Yeah. Joe Jones: More money for us. Roland Davis: But it and Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: I think we have to make it quite big. Joe Jones: Quite big. Richard May: Yes, Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: you Richard May: definitely, Joe Jones: think? Richard May: definitely. Levi Diaz: That's Roland Davis: people Levi Diaz: to be uh Roland Davis: So, Levi Diaz: a Roland Davis: and and Levi Diaz: formed Roland Davis: also Levi Diaz: for Roland Davis: because Levi Diaz: your hand. Roland Davis: uh it is expensive. If you want it to be something, you know, it's ha doesn't have much functions want to be Richard May: Yes, Roland Davis: you Richard May: it Roland Davis: don't want to Richard May: it Roland Davis: get Richard May: it Roland Davis: it l Richard May: should be Roland Davis: make Richard May: f Roland Davis: it Richard May: be visible nearly anywhere in the room. As I uh as I said during my Roland Davis: Mm-hmm. Richard May: presentation, fifty percent Roland Davis: And Richard May: uh Roland Davis: shou and should ni Richard May: o Roland Davis: look nice when you put it on a table. I I think you m might wanna put it Joe Jones: A Roland Davis: uh Joe Jones: standard or Roland Davis: yeah, Joe Jones: something. Roland Davis: that it it it it stands up. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah, you have to put it on its So it's like a vase or uh something you put on a table. Richard May: A face? Or uh yeah, Roland Davis: no Richard May: yeah. Roland Davis: no, Richard May: Yeah. Levi Diaz: More Roland Davis: put Levi Diaz: like Roland Davis: stuff Levi Diaz: a joystick Roland Davis: inside it. But, Levi Diaz: then. Roland Davis: it's like like a statue or something Richard May: Yeah, yeah, I see what you Joe Jones: It's Richard May: mean, Joe Jones: like you have Richard May: yep. Joe Jones: uh four phones. Roland Davis: Yeah yeah, but Joe Jones: Something Roland Davis: yeah, but you Joe Jones: like that. Roland Davis: also can put it somewhere Richard May: If you do that, but Roland Davis: near Richard May: I don't Roland Davis: the window Richard May: know Roland Davis: in Richard May: if that's possible Roland Davis: That it's Richard May: within Roland Davis: it's Richard May: the Roland Davis: fashionable. Richard May: production cost of twelve and a half Euros. Roland Davis: I I don't Richard May: I in in the base we could like make uh a button, and if you push it, the remote control itself s makes noise. Roland Davis: Oh, Richard May: That's Roland Davis: yeah. Richard May: probably stupid, but uh as I found here uh, fifty percent, was it fifty? Levi Diaz: But that's Richard May: Uh Levi Diaz: that's Richard May: fifty Levi Diaz: fun Richard May: percent Levi Diaz: for the first time, and then Richard May: fifty Levi Diaz: the second Richard May: percent often loses remote control. Roland Davis: Yeah, but but when you when it gets lost, how can you press the button to make Richard May: No Roland Davis: it Richard May: uh, of the base the the the Roland Davis: Oh, Richard May: the Roland Davis: okay. Richard May: the Joe Jones: On the television. Richard May: the the thing you put it in. Joe Jones: Oh, like Roland Davis: Uh, Joe Jones: this. Roland Davis: that's Richard May: If Roland Davis: kind Richard May: an Roland Davis: of nice. Richard May: a button in in that Levi Diaz: Or you Roland Davis: And Richard May: uh Levi Diaz: can Roland Davis: then also you don't even need batteries, because you can make it uh chargeable. Joe Jones: A char chargeable. Richard May: Yeah, you Levi Diaz: Yeah. Richard May: can Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: ma make rechargeable one, yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah, Richard May: Why Roland Davis: that Richard May: not. Roland Davis: w yeah, but yeah, the pro No, well I think that it might Joe Jones: Why Roland Davis: be Joe Jones: not. Roland Davis: t p Well, nee but we don't Yeah. Maybe you, but we don't know much about production cost, but when you you can imagine that when you spend twenty five Euros on a remote control and it's a basic Levi Diaz: With recharger. Roland Davis: remote control, then the then the money there must be money to spend on that kind of st you know, rechargeable Richard May: It should only Roland Davis: units. Richard May: cost twelve and a half Euros, of course. Aye? Roland Davis: Yeah, but we would d ma Joe Jones: Production. Roland Davis: we'd do it in Taiwan and So, it's not gonna be that expen Richard May: Yeah, okay. Joe Jones: It should be Roland Davis: Uh Joe Jones: possible. Roland Davis: I I think it's a great idea. Joe Jones: a good idea. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: S some kind of be Joe Jones: To make Roland Davis: I've Joe Jones: a Roland Davis: never Joe Jones: base Roland Davis: seen that Joe Jones: or Roland Davis: before, Joe Jones: something? Roland Davis: and you make it uh um be uh, you see it with uh the mo the mouses nowadays. Richard May: Yes. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Levi Diaz: Yes, but is that handy? Roland Davis: Well, I well it's really ch you can recharge it, so you ha never have the battery Joe Jones: It's Roland Davis: problem. Joe Jones: it's Roland Davis: That's Joe Jones: it's Roland Davis: one. Joe Jones: it's Roland Davis: And uh you can always Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: find Joe Jones: it's not Roland Davis: your Levi Diaz: but Joe Jones: the Roland Davis: remote Joe Jones: purpose Roland Davis: control Levi Diaz: remote Joe Jones: to Roland Davis: up Joe Jones: be handy, Levi Diaz: controls Joe Jones: it's Levi Diaz: remote controls nowadays can can last uh two years, three years, with with t two batteries. Roland Davis: Uh, okay. Well, maybe yeah, you could Levi Diaz: And Roland Davis: when Levi Diaz: then Roland Davis: that's Levi Diaz: you Roland Davis: when it's too costly, you could probably skip the recharger, but you will you do need uh also an uh, also you would need a battery in the the base unit as well, you know. Does Levi Diaz: Yes. Roland Davis: it makes Richard May: Well Roland Davis: it kinda Richard May: y Levi Diaz: Or Richard May: you you could connect that to two hundred to twenty volts, of course. Joe Jones: Mm. Roland Davis: Yeah, Richard May: I Roland Davis: yeah. Richard May: don't know. Roland Davis: Okay. Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: Yeah. Joe Jones: but that's not it's ugly, Roland Davis: Yeah, but Joe Jones: I think. Roland Davis: then it's very easy to make it also a rechargeab I don't think that is gonna cost much to make it also a recharge Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: function in it. Richard May: On the other hand, if you don't do it, we can also make a nice bay. I mean, it looks trendy and still still put a bleep function in it, but Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: um I think the bay is definitely uh Roland Davis: I think it's a good idea. And make it, you know, we we um Well, we uh it's it isn't a t a most uh costly uh remote control. We can save on the on the functions. We just put some simple button in, make it big and sturdy, nothing more, and just make s sure there's some noise that it can make, or probably some kind of cheap light thing around it or that it uh that it lights Richard May: Sure, Roland Davis: up, Richard May: why not. Roland Davis: it's also Richard May: Yep. Roland Davis: nice. And if you put it away, I think it's uh w Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: we have to we uh that's uh it's Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: not a easy market. We have to something special. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: And for twenty five Joe Jones: True. Roland Davis: Euros people want something remote c special from your mote control, Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: and we Richard May: Definitely. Roland Davis: can't deliver that in r with uh regards to the functions, because we aren't gonna Richard May: With eye Roland Davis: put Richard May: candy, ear candy, whatever. Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: Yeah, definitely. Roland Davis: And then uh when make it, you know, nice looking shape and this and then you also you got the stand-up thing. Yeah. I think Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: I think Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: it's a Joe Jones: it Roland Davis: good Joe Jones: must Roland Davis: idea. Joe Jones: be must be a gadget to have. Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: Definitely, yeah. Roland Davis: Oh, if it let's well, we will see what's possible concerning the the costs, and if it's possible we'll do that. Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: And we even try to save up on other stuff to make sure we can do such a thing. And the first thing we the most likeable thing to to n to skip is then probably the recharge function or something. If that's too expensive, Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: we won't Joe Jones: we Roland Davis: do Joe Jones: c Roland Davis: that. But it would be nice. Richard May: It would be nice, Roland Davis: It's Richard May: yes. Roland Davis: the idea. I know that batteries last long nowadays. And and what people just think about, well, I'll never have to buy any r batteries again, so y b because it's very annoying when your battery is empty. And you know then when you haven't batteries around, and probably for two weeks, your remo I've Richard May: Most televisions Roland Davis: experienced that Richard May: break Roland Davis: that Richard May: down before the battery pack is empty, so Roland Davis: Yeah, okay. Richard May: yes. Roland Davis: So, easy functions. Well, we will we will I think we'll work that out, zapping, numbers on it, Joe Jones: Or just Roland Davis: bi Joe Jones: give a beep when the battery's out or uh down. Richard May: Yeah, why Roland Davis: Yeah. Richard May: not. Roland Davis: But it's also annoying. 'cause as Richard May: Hmm. Roland Davis: long as it stays as it ke keeps working, you're not Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: very motivated to do something about it. Joe Jones: true. Roland Davis: Then Richard May: No, Roland Davis: it Richard May: that's Roland Davis: beeps Richard May: true. Roland Davis: all the time and. You don't want to have ever have those problems, and you won't have if if you have the rechargeable. And you don't have to use the unit, you can also put it on the side if people don't like it. Uh, Richard May: Why Roland Davis: i i in Richard May: not. Roland Davis: the in Levi Diaz: But Roland Davis: the ma Levi Diaz: you pay for it. Roland Davis: Yeah, but it w I mean, if if they pay for it because they think, oh, that's a great idea, I'm gonna use it. And when it, you know, when time goes by and they think, well, I'll never put him in the recharger, I think last long enough, then they put it on side and they can use it now and then. Then when they look get m I I I know for sure that everybody who buys this remote control, within a couple of months of they will be in the situation that they they're seeking for the remote control, they wanna see something Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: quick and uh just push the button and th uh, I think Richard May: Bleep Roland Davis: it's brilliant. Richard May: bleep bleep, oh there it is, yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: I've never Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: it's so simple, but I've never seen it. Richard May: No. Joe Jones: And you can leave Richard May: Nearly. Roland Davis: M Joe Jones: it just there. Roland Davis: maybe we should really do this. Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: Okay now, well, how much time have we got left? These clocks aren't uh synched. Joe Jones: Yes. Roland Davis: Oh, now I've put uh well, it is twenty p Joe Jones: Yeah, I'll Roland Davis: Okay, so we have ten minutes or something? Richard May: Something like that, yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah, but we're uh we're done. Joe Jones: Uh Roland Davis: I Joe Jones: fifteen Roland Davis: think. Joe Jones: minutes. Roland Davis: We've decided on the functions. Well, there is some oh. There is a closing sheet. We have lunch break, and then we have thirty minutes of individual work. Richard May: Oh. Roland Davis: Oh okay, I'll make sure I'll I had some problems with uh the digitising the the first minutes, the the s the next minutes won't be a problem, but I'll try to make sure the first one will be in the folder too, but maybe it won't work, but you'll see. I think these Richard May: We'll Roland Davis: are Richard May: see. Roland Davis: more important than the first ones, so Joe Jones: Can you make an uh uh a part of f folder for the minutes maybe? That not not Richard May: Maarten, Joe Jones: everything Richard May: five Joe Jones: in one Richard May: minutes. Joe Jones: one Roland Davis: Oh, Joe Jones: uh Roland Davis: five minutes. Joe Jones: folder. Roland Davis: Yeah, because uh I I d I did uh the first minutes I did were were were a bit scratchy, you know. Then I did a s second one with a nicer layout, which I could uh, know, use for the other ones well, but uh I d think uh I forgot to do put done under the first one, and when you go write Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: a second uh it's get it's not working when you try to write second Joe Jones: Maybe. Roland Davis: uh paper Richard May: No, that's Roland Davis: or Richard May: true Roland Davis: something. Richard May: uh, yeah. Roland Davis: And then you you had to overwrite it or someth I don't know. Becau I d uh, it was not my uh pen. Richard May: Should we by the way draw um Roland Davis: this kind of Richard May: on Roland Davis: looks Richard May: our nice Roland Davis: you like. Richard May: whiteboard, um a little uh idea of Roland Davis: Of the shape. Richard May: yeah. Joe Jones: Or the Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: sh Roland Davis: probably, Richard May: I Roland Davis: it Richard May: dunno. Roland Davis: would be nice. Richard May: Has anyone got um Joe Jones: Do you get Richard May: a Joe Jones: an idea Richard May: little Joe Jones: of Richard May: bit Joe Jones: the shape? Richard May: detailed ideas about the shape? I don't, Levi Diaz: Maybe like Richard May: for one. Levi Diaz: this pen. Richard May: A bit bigger I guess, Roland Davis: No, Richard May: but Roland Davis: bigger. Joe Jones: A little bit bigger, yeah but Richard May: The shape is nice, it's um something different, and Levi Diaz: It Richard May: we Levi Diaz: has Richard May: want Levi Diaz: to feel Richard May: we Levi Diaz: nice Richard May: want Roland Davis: Well, Richard May: that. Levi Diaz: in Roland Davis: I Levi Diaz: your hand. Roland Davis: I Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: I have to say, I have this uh can opening remote control in my head most of all, or I think some maybe we should no, that will be too Joe Jones: Oh, uh Roland Davis: costly. Joe Jones: look uh look Roland Davis: We shou Joe Jones: at Roland Davis: we Joe Jones: the Roland Davis: could Joe Jones: pictures. Roland Davis: also, that was a would also be an idea, but I don't think it I don't know if it exists already, you should like make Alessi or something design it. Richard May: Okay, yeah. Roland Davis: That would also be nice. But that's Richard May: Yeah, Roland Davis: gonna Richard May: but Roland Davis: then you c then you Richard May: twelve Roland Davis: don't Richard May: and a half Euros? Uh Roland Davis: Yeah, but then you don't have t yeah it that's not something i that's in the production cost a one it's a one time, you know s was it's a single cost. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: Yeah, m but but then you can nah, I don't thin I think that it would be more expensive, because I've bought the Alessi stuff more often and even small pencil holders or something are more expensive. Richard May: Yeah, that's true. Roland Davis: Would be a nice idea though. I don't know. I think it uh has to be a r it has to have round forms or something. Like something like that or so or so Richard May: Something like that is very ergonomic. Roland Davis: And on th and then uh Richard May: So Roland Davis: s a base unit underneath it. It's also round. Put it in there uh wire on it. Maybe Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: uh, I don't know, some some lights, a big but well. Joe Jones: Yeah, flash lights at the Roland Davis: Volume and Joe Jones: side. Roland Davis: programme, Joe Jones: At Roland Davis: yeah. Joe Jones: the side, Richard May: Yes, Joe Jones: or something Richard May: volume and Joe Jones: like Richard May: programme Joe Jones: that. Richard May: should be there I guess, because you Roland Davis: And Richard May: hands Roland Davis: some Richard May: wi Roland Davis: of the Richard May: uh y Roland Davis: extra Richard May: your Roland Davis: funct Richard May: hands will be in the smaller part. Roland Davis: Some of the Joe Jones: Yeah. Roland Davis: extra functions over here. Richard May: Yeah, and Roland Davis: Numbers. Richard May: the numbers on top, Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: I guess. Roland Davis: And and lights? How we're g well, maybe uh s a ring of no, no, you have to Maybe on the side Richard May: Maybe Roland Davis: of it. Richard May: ro roun rounds uh Joe Jones: Yeah, Richard May: uh Joe Jones: side Richard May: l Joe Jones: of Richard May: sorry. Joe Jones: it. Roland Davis: Along Joe Jones: Just Roland Davis: the side Joe Jones: two LEDs Roland Davis: uh strip Joe Jones: or something Roland Davis: of yeah. Joe Jones: on the side. Richard May: Maybe lights Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: also around the volume and the p the plus minus programme buttons. Roland Davis: Yeah, but I also meant the Richard May: Oh. Roland Davis: the blinking li w you know, the ones that also blink when you try to uh uh locate your remote. Richard May: Okay. Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: Well, Joe Jones: Well, uh Roland Davis: theys have Joe Jones: probably Roland Davis: to be Joe Jones: at the side. You know look Roland Davis: Yeah. Joe Jones: at the front, Roland Davis: Yeah, Joe Jones: but Roland Davis: yeah. Exactly. When you you see it from the side, then it would look just like that. Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: And Joe Jones: exactly, Roland Davis: then you have Joe Jones: and then there is yeah. Roland Davis: a strip of uh lights or Joe Jones: Yeah, Roland Davis: something. Richard May: Okay, yeah. Joe Jones: something like that, yeah. Roland Davis: Well, uh I think it's nice, for one thing. maybe put something on top of it or, you know, like that's Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: looks funny. I don't know. Joe Jones: No. Roland Davis: Or some Richard May: I Roland Davis: bump. Richard May: think I think Roland Davis: Maybe Richard May: that'll Roland Davis: some Richard May: be too big tha Roland Davis: Yeah? Richard May: too big then. Joe Jones: Bumper or something. Roland Davis: We'll have to think about it. I think we're Richard May: Yeah. Roland Davis: we're done. Joe Jones: Yeah. Richard May: Yes, we are. Roland Davis: We can Joe Jones: Lunch Roland Davis: save Joe Jones: break. Richard May: Alright. Roland Davis: this one. Richard May: Yes, I guess it's lunch time. Joe Jones: Okay then. Roland Davis: Mm mm. Richard May: I don't know. Half and hour? I thought Joe Jones: Okay, Richard May: our Joe Jones: five Richard May: next uh Joe Jones: uh Richard May: next individual round was half an hour. Roland Davis: Yeah, that was what Richard May: I don't Roland Davis: uh Richard May: know about the lunch break. Roland Davis: Mm, we'll hear about it. Richard May: Well Joe Jones: Oh.	Roland Davis opened the meeting. Levi Diaz reported on working design, explaining how a remote control works and describing its main components. Joe Jones talked about what functions should be included. He suggested they should focus on either expert or novice users. The basic functions should include an on/off switch, buttons for channels one to nine, volume, mute and buttons for next and previous channel. He suggested that a trendy design should not have many buttons. Richard May reported on user requirements, including how users rated the importance of different features. He stressed that a trendy design is important, that users zap a lot, and that remotes often get lost. Roland Davis informed the group of new requirements. The remote is only for TV, should not include a teletext feature, and should feature the company colour and slogan. The group discussed what functions and features the remote should have, and whether to include DVD/VCR controls, a teletext button, stop button, changeable covers, and a base/recharger with locator function. The group also discussed making the remote a rounded, ergonomic shape, and using flashing lights to help locate it when lost.	3	amisum	train
Paul Zanghi: Okay, all set? Welcome Steve Reilly: Uh, Philip Polito: Yes. Steve Reilly: okay. Paul Zanghi: to the conceptual design meeting. The agenda. The opening. I'll again be the secretary and make minutes, take minutes, uh and it will be three presentations, just like the last meeting. So um, who wants to start off? Technical uh designer again? Steve Reilly: Again. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: Hmm. Paul Zanghi: Uh, yeah. Uh, before we begin it, I want to say I've I've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder, but they're still not uh quite okay. It uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the Steve Reilly: Mm-hmm. Paul Zanghi: the first part of the minutes are very hard to read, because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other. Norman Royston: Okay. Paul Zanghi: So But uh, from now on I won't use my pen anymore, so will be p just ordinary Steve Reilly: Uh, Paul Zanghi: keyboard. Steve Reilly: may be better, yeah. Norman Royston: Keyboard work. Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: think it will will be more uh easy Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: for you to read the minutes. Norman Royston: Alright. Philip Polito: Okay, when we talk about uh design, um it's really about the material and the and uh uh really the we build uh the remote controls of. Um, a remote control consist of uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material. We have to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of in uh in buying uh the remote controls. Um, the components of a remote control are of course the case Uh the properties of the case, um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with soft rubber for uh falling and and uh uh yeah, it feels uh good in your hand. Mm the buttons has to be uh solid too, and the material is soft rubber. Uh I've got a uh email from the possibilities of Real Reaction. Um uh they're telling Norman Royston that um when we build uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber, the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too. Mm It's okay. Yeah. I when we use a rubbled a doubled curved case, we must use a rubber push-buttons to uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uh three-dimensional uh curve in the in the design, which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy. Uh Um Steve Reilly: Oh. Philip Polito: the energy source, uh I've got a lot of possibilities for that too. Um, uh the basic battery, which I thi prefer because of its uh its non uh non-depending of of of uh um Uh here you have to have a hand uh yeah, kinetic uh energy. Also in uh this one, like in the watches, but a remote control can lie on a table for a day, and then you push uh a button and so you don't have to uh walk with it all the all the time. Mm, solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls. Um uh also the case material, uh I think that plastic is the is the best with rubber, because uh wood or titanium would also be a bit weird. Steve Reilly: Oh titanium is probably trendy, I think. Norman Royston: That's true, I guess. Yeah. Steve Reilly: Well, maybe a little bit expensive. I don't know. Norman Royston: Huh. Philip Polito: Uh, they don't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium. Um the chip uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off the shelf. Also, the speaker in the remote control, when we want to retrieve it. Um, the base station is also off the shelf, all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory. Mm, I've told about uh the three first points. Mm, the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with the LED transmitter uh transmitter. Uh, it's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all uh available in our company. Um, another possibility. I uh yeah, I looked up on was uh the L_C_D_ displays. Could be uh something special to our uh remote control, and it's possible, but it only cost a bit more, but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five Euros. Paul Zanghi: Twelve and a half. Philip Polito: Ah yeah. Paul Zanghi: Actually Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: Yeah, production cost. Philip Polito: I th I got an email with uh some examples and it these were were the most trendiest one. You see uh a covers, which can be Paul Zanghi: What are those, t tooth uh brushes, Philip Polito: Um, Paul Zanghi: or so Philip Polito: I don't know. Um Paul Zanghi: But it's actually kind Steve Reilly: I Paul Zanghi: of uh well, it resembles the design I had Philip Polito: Yes. Paul Zanghi: in mind for this Norman Royston: Yep. Paul Zanghi: proj You know the the cartoonish Alessi kind of design. Philip Polito: Yes, maybe we can uh bri uh bring a couple of uh Paul Zanghi: And we can we can steal Philip Polito: couple Paul Zanghi: their Philip Polito: of Paul Zanghi: ideas. Philip Polito: types of uh maybe a kind of uh whole uh um a whole set of uh different uh remote controls. Maybe we can Paul Zanghi: Huh. Philip Polito: bring a whole line uh with uh with a huge variety of uh Paul Zanghi: Well, Philip Polito: uh house Paul Zanghi: it's Steve Reilly: Different Paul Zanghi: a possibility, Philip Polito: uh stuff. Steve Reilly: colours Paul Zanghi: too. Steve Reilly: also. Philip Polito: Like uh maybe radios and uh television Paul Zanghi: Uh-uh. Philip Polito: also uh in this in this in the same style, but Norman Royston: Yeah, that'll Paul Zanghi: Okay. Norman Royston: be for the future, I guess. Philip Polito: Yes, because we have to uh Paul Zanghi: Next time we're here. Philip Polito: we have Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Philip Polito: to we have to bring the logo and all the stuff Paul Zanghi: Oh, Philip Polito: uh Paul Zanghi: okay. Philip Polito: back into it. Norman Royston: Yeah. Definitely. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Philip Polito: Thank Norman Royston: Alright. Philip Polito: you. Steve Reilly: Okay. uh Norman Royston: Yeah. That's okay. Steve Reilly: Ah. Steve Reilly: Well, I shall go to the next slide. Um um, I still don't have any information about user requirements. I was about just uh the basic functions and I got Paul Zanghi: Oh, we Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: decided upon that in the last meeting. Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: Didn't Steve Reilly: but Paul Zanghi: we? Steve Reilly: but then wh I don't know when there are new user requirements. Paul Zanghi: Oh, okay. Steve Reilly: I ha I Paul Zanghi: Well, Steve Reilly: ha Paul Zanghi: tha Steve Reilly: I Paul Zanghi: I didn't Steve Reilly: have the Paul Zanghi: receive Steve Reilly: I Paul Zanghi: any Steve Reilly: have Paul Zanghi: new requirements or somethi Just Steve Reilly: nothing. Paul Zanghi: no, but we decided to use only b basic functions only. Steve Reilly: Well, I have here a couple of basic functions I could think of. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: I dunno if they're maybe a little bit more, but Paul Zanghi: Well we maybe we can think of that later. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: W just these are the ones you already summed up in the Steve Reilly: Yeah, I I uh well, I pointed them out here, Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: just to make it a little bit easier. Um Another function uh is of course we already discuss it on the side. Um, I don't know what costs of it. Uh, I've no idea about it. Uh, I was also looking for what you said, for I got an email uh uh about uh L_C_D_ in in in front of the remote control. I don't know if that's a good idea, or maybe it's a little bit too much for twelve and a half. Production. Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Philip Polito: Uh-huh. Steve Reilly: If we got already uh something like a Paul Zanghi: That Steve Reilly: base. Paul Zanghi: might get redundant also maybe. I don't know what kind of Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: information Steve Reilly: I don't know. Paul Zanghi: it Steve Reilly: I d Paul Zanghi: would Steve Reilly: I Norman Royston: Mm yeah. Steve Reilly: uh ju I was just thinking about it. Then Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Steve Reilly: I got a pop-ups Paul Zanghi: Yeah, it's Philip Polito: Maybe Paul Zanghi: okay. Steve Reilly: to go Philip Polito: we Steve Reilly: to Philip Polito: can Steve Reilly: the meeting. Philip Polito: bring t Steve Reilly: But Philip Polito: uh uh teletext to the t Steve Reilly: The remote control. Philip Polito: to the remote control. Steve Reilly: a Norman Royston: Then you Steve Reilly: little Norman Royston: and then you've got a flag Steve Reilly: uh too Norman Royston: s Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: A little bit Paul Zanghi: That's Norman Royston: Very Paul Zanghi: not Norman Royston: big R_C_. Yeah. Steve Reilly: A little bit Paul Zanghi: It was Steve Reilly: too Paul Zanghi: not Steve Reilly: big, Paul Zanghi: a good Steve Reilly: I think. Paul Zanghi: idea. Steve Reilly: Exactly. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: Um, yeah. Well, the functions are are not more to discuss, I Paul Zanghi: No. Steve Reilly: think. It's Paul Zanghi: No. Steve Reilly: it's Norman Royston: No. Steve Reilly: just the base things we already discussed that the no V_C_R_ or that kind of uh, so that's very easy. Um Paul Zanghi: But you do mention the next and previous uh button. Steve Reilly: Mm-hmm. Norman Royston: Next channel, Steve Reilly: Well, Norman Royston: previous Steve Reilly: that's next Norman Royston: channel. Steve Reilly: channel. Paul Zanghi: Oh, Steve Reilly: I Paul Zanghi: okay, Steve Reilly: mean Paul Zanghi: o Steve Reilly: next channel. Paul Zanghi: okay Steve Reilly: Uh Paul Zanghi: okay. Steve Reilly: Um oh, I I got an email with with an uh Paul Zanghi: Huh. Steve Reilly: a remote control with a base. So, it's uh just an idea. And I um uh thinked of the button sizes and I'm not sure uh if they have to be big or uh just small Philip Polito: But you're the expert. Norman Royston: I think it depends on the function. Steve Reilly: Well, I'm not a e I'm the expert for user-friendly, but not for trendiness. Paul Zanghi: Mm-hmm. Steve Reilly: Maybe Norman Royston: Well, Steve Reilly: it Norman Royston: if you save uh Perhaps uh s tiny buttons aren't user-friendly, then we wouldn't im implement that of course. Steve Reilly: Well uh okay, that's your point. Um, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I've nothing to s Paul Zanghi: Well, Norman Royston: Oh, that's Paul Zanghi: w Norman Royston: right. Paul Zanghi: when we only use basic functions, we have the possibility to make the buttons larger. Steve Reilly: Uh, with a little Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: bit larger, yeah. I thought so, but maybe with the Paul Zanghi: Well, I think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons, th th those two have Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: yeah, Steve Reilly: that Paul Zanghi: they have Steve Reilly: groups. Paul Zanghi: to be large. Uh, Steve Reilly: Large? Paul Zanghi: I mean th th the the two two basic buttons, you know, the to skip channels Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: and Norman Royston: Yep. Paul Zanghi: to uh I think yeah, I don't know why, but I think that is that's t Steve Reilly: Most Norman Royston: Those Paul Zanghi: trendy Norman Royston: are probably Paul Zanghi: too, Steve Reilly: the most Norman Royston: the Paul Zanghi: because Steve Reilly: used Norman Royston: the Paul Zanghi: that's Norman Royston: th Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: the mo it Steve Reilly: buttons. Paul Zanghi: it you know, it's uh acc acc um accentu uh, how do you say it? It puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of Norman Royston: Yes. Paul Zanghi: our remotes Steve Reilly: True. Paul Zanghi: to j to make Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: these two most basic functions extra big, like Norman Royston: Those are Paul Zanghi: t Norman Royston: probably the b four most most used buttons on the Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Norman Royston: th in the Philip Polito: You Norman Royston: remote Philip Polito: did Paul Zanghi: And Norman Royston: control. Philip Polito: the Paul Zanghi: you Philip Polito: research. Paul Zanghi: want Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: to acc accentuate that, you know. Norman Royston: Sorry? Philip Polito: It's from your research. Norman Royston: Yeah, sure. Steve Reilly: Okay. Paul Zanghi: So Steve Reilly: Uh, that was all y uh personal preference I didn't have. I Paul Zanghi: Okay. Steve Reilly: didn't had any time left. So Paul Zanghi: No uh, that's coo it's cool. Norman Royston: You don't care. No, sorry. Steve Reilly: Yeah, Norman Royston: Yeah. Oh. Go away. Norman Royston: Come Steve Reilly: It's Norman Royston: on. Steve Reilly: there. Yeah, click on it. Couple time. Norman Royston: Oh, great. Well, I've done some research again about trends on the internet. Um I've done some investigation, and uh well I uh got some information from fashion watchers from Paris and uh Milan. Some uh some findings the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control. Uh, well, we were going to imply that, so that's nice. The second important thing is uh innovative technology in the R_C_. Uh, our market really likes really likes that. And uh the third point there in this uh order if of importance, the third point, is a high ease of use. And uh, well, for the idea, I've put some trends uh for the market of elderly people. Dark colours, simple recognisable shapes. So we probably won't do that. The younger market likes uh Well, the themes of of this year are uh surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material. I found this image, which is uh Well, it symbolises the idea of fruits and vegetables. I don't see the spongy part in it. But with a little bit of fancy Paul Zanghi: Well maybe c then we have to do something with Sponge Bob then. Norman Royston: Exactly. I got some ideas Uh well, yeah, pictures isn't really good word, but um some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe. Uh, catchy colours. Fruit is uh yellow, green, red, whatever. So, Paul Zanghi: It doesn't Norman Royston: remote Paul Zanghi: stroke Norman Royston: controls Paul Zanghi: with the Norman Royston: in Paul Zanghi: with the Norman Royston: in Paul Zanghi: dark Norman Royston: catchy Paul Zanghi: colours. Norman Royston: colours. Uh, no, we don't want dark colours. Paul Zanghi: Not the dark colours? Okay. Norman Royston: No, I just put them there to uh, yeah, uh for general idea. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Norman Royston: And uh, the docking st uh I think the spongy material is is very irritating for the uh remote control itself. But to Yeah, the To implement some spongy thing, maybe we can do it in the in the docking station. At the bottom of the docking station or whatever. And uh, we could bring one line with a dark colour uh to um uh p uh yeah uh uh v how do you say? Paul Zanghi: For diversity or something. Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: Uh Norman Royston: also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want Steve Reilly: Well, how Norman Royston: maybe Steve Reilly: uh Norman Royston: want a little younger design but still the dark colour. I mean it it it reaches a different market uh, but it it it doesn't cost really much effort to b to uh bring uh like a black R_C_ on the market or whatever. Steve Reilly: But Norman Royston: Yes. Steve Reilly: how do we use uh fruits and vegetables in Christ's sake with remote Paul Zanghi: No, Steve Reilly: control? Paul Zanghi: but I Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: there's Paul Zanghi: I think Norman Royston: there's Steve Reilly: Uh, Paul Zanghi: that uh Norman Royston: always Paul Zanghi: our Steve Reilly: make Norman Royston: a Paul Zanghi: design Steve Reilly: it a banana? Paul Zanghi: already resembles so a piece of fruit. It's Norman Royston: Well Paul Zanghi: like a pear Norman Royston: there Paul Zanghi: or Norman Royston: there's Paul Zanghi: something. Norman Royston: always empty space of course on a remote control. I mean I think this part of the R_C_ uh well Paul Zanghi: No, I don't think you have to do it Norman Royston: the Paul Zanghi: like Norman Royston: upper the upper part or whatever is uh is not not used with buttons, I guess. So you you can put some fruity things Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but it that doesn't have to remind you, you know, like explicitly of s our f of a of Norman Royston: No, Paul Zanghi: a Norman Royston: of Paul Zanghi: specific Norman Royston: course not. Paul Zanghi: piece of fruit, but just, you know, like the the the the round curves. And so y I I think this Norman Royston: Especially Paul Zanghi: y it already Norman Royston: i Paul Zanghi: sem resembles uh something like a Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: pear Steve Reilly: but Paul Zanghi: to Norman Royston or something. Steve Reilly: th Norman Royston: Yeah, Steve Reilly: yeah, but Norman Royston: yeah. Steve Reilly: that Norman Royston: Yeah, exactly. Steve Reilly: Yeah, Norman Royston: If we Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Norman Royston: make it Steve Reilly: but Norman Royston: little Steve Reilly: that's Norman Royston: bit greenish. Paul Zanghi: You do get the idea, eh? The fruity Steve Reilly: Yeah Paul Zanghi: kind Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: of round Steve Reilly: uh Norman Royston: A Paul Zanghi: 'Kay. Norman Royston: and we could use one of these for the uh Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Norman Royston: w Paul Zanghi: uh Norman Royston: what is it? Paul Zanghi: yeah, I don't know. Philip Polito: Grapes. Norman Royston: Uh Isn't Paul Zanghi: Uh, this is a b yeah. Norman Royston: Wha whatever. Steve Reilly: But d don't we need a creative artist or something like that to m Paul Zanghi: Yeah, yeah. Steve Reilly: make Paul Zanghi: Of Steve Reilly: it Paul Zanghi: course Steve Reilly: to feel Paul Zanghi: we have Steve Reilly: like Paul Zanghi: uh Steve Reilly: a a Norman Royston: Yeah, Steve Reilly: a Norman Royston: sure. Steve Reilly: a vegetable or fruit? Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: we have a very big uh Norman Royston: Well, w we can Paul Zanghi: the s Norman Royston: uh w Philip Polito: For a big team Norman Royston: we can Philip Polito: of artists. Paul Zanghi: Of d Norman Royston: we Paul Zanghi: design Norman Royston: can produce Paul Zanghi: team, yeah. Norman Royston: multiple uh multiple things. This is then the uh pear. I don't know the English word, Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but Norman Royston: so forget it. Paul Zanghi: It's pear, I guess. Norman Royston: And um, Philip Polito: But Norman Royston: maybe, Philip Polito: uh but I think Norman Royston: yeah, a Philip Polito: we Norman Royston: b Philip Polito: don't Norman Royston: a banana Philip Polito: have to make Norman Royston: is uh is n not easy for a remote control, but m yeah. Philip Polito: we Paul Zanghi: No. Philip Polito: can't make all uh ten designs. We have to make one design I th I I think. Paul Zanghi: No, but I think it's it's Norman Royston: Mayb Paul Zanghi: already Norman Royston: maybe two or three. Paul Zanghi: what we were were up to. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: Uh, it's Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: it doesn't have to resemble uh what I already said, a specific piece of fruit, but just, Norman Royston: No Paul Zanghi: you Norman Royston: sure, Paul Zanghi: know, like Norman Royston: but Paul Zanghi: a fruity Norman Royston: but Paul Zanghi: thing going on. Norman Royston: B Paul Zanghi: And it's it looks Norman Royston: but Paul Zanghi: fruity Norman Royston: that's great, Paul Zanghi: to Norman Royston. Norman Royston: and and and what I was what Paul Zanghi: And Norman Royston: what Paul Zanghi: uh, but Norman Royston: I was Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: saying, Paul Zanghi: do like Norman Royston: the catchy Paul Zanghi: the Norman Royston: colours Paul Zanghi: yeah, I do like uh the f uh to the idea of making a a y uh, a catchy colour design and a d because I do I think a dark colour would be nice too. Norman Royston: Yeah. Philip Polito: But pictures of fruit, Paul Zanghi: Maybe it's too much, Philip Polito: vegetables Paul Zanghi: you Steve Reilly: But, Paul Zanghi: know. Norman Royston: Yeah, Steve Reilly: we we have Norman Royston: uh Steve Reilly: to um Norman Royston: not really. Philip Polito: vegetables Norman Royston: Pictures was a Steve Reilly: There have to Norman Royston: was Steve Reilly: be Norman Royston: a bad Steve Reilly: the Norman Royston: word, Steve Reilly: the Norman Royston: but Steve Reilly: the the firm colours, our own Paul Zanghi: Okay, Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: but Steve Reilly: colours Paul Zanghi: what Steve Reilly: has Paul Zanghi: are Steve Reilly: to Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: be Paul Zanghi: This Steve Reilly: in it. Paul Zanghi: is Norman Royston: Well Paul Zanghi: yellow. Norman Royston: we c yeah. Steve Reilly: Yellow, a Real Reaction. Philip Polito: Yes, you can put a logo on top of it. Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: But I don't Norman Royston: sure. Paul Zanghi: think our Steve Reilly: Uh, Paul Zanghi: our Steve Reilly: yeah. Paul Zanghi: company colours are this fashionable. Norman Royston: Maybe we can Philip Polito: Yes, Norman Royston: if Philip Polito: it's really Norman Royston: if Philip Polito: fruity. Norman Royston: we got Steve Reilly: We Norman Royston: our Steve Reilly: uh Norman Royston: docking Steve Reilly: f Norman Royston: station over here. I can't draw with this thing, but I'll try. Steve Reilly: A yellow Norman Royston: If this Steve Reilly: do Norman Royston: is our docking station, we can make Steve Reilly: Uh, yeah. Norman Royston: our logo over here. It doesn't work. And then Steve Reilly: Yeah, and the button then. Philip Polito: With a strawberry on top. Paul Zanghi: Yeah, on uh Norman Royston: Well, Paul Zanghi: n uh on the bottom of the remote Norman Royston: the button Paul Zanghi: you can Norman Royston: button Paul Zanghi: do Norman Royston: over here or whatever, I don't Steve Reilly: Okay, Norman Royston: know. Steve Reilly: yeah. Norman Royston: On the front, of course, because else you can't find it. Steve Reilly: Okay. Norman Royston: Well, that were my ideas a little bit. I'll close Paul Zanghi: Okay. Norman Royston: 'em down. Um, go away. Paul Zanghi: Okay, you can you open the conceptual design Norman Royston: Conceptual Paul Zanghi: presentation? Norman Royston: design, yes. Paul Zanghi: See what was on the agenda. Steve Reilly: Lazy. Norman Royston: The agenda. Paul Zanghi: This is his own remote Because. um, Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: maybe we can start with the technical uh functions, but I don't think it's there uh, yeah um, do we want to um use an L_C_D_ display, for example? Philip Polito: Only if we Norman Royston: I don't I don't know what to display on it. Philip Polito: Maybe Norman Royston: I mean Philip Polito: maybe we Paul Zanghi: Norman Royston Philip Polito: can Paul Zanghi: neither. Philip Polito: make a T_V_ guide on it, for the channel you're on. Norman Royston: Yeah, but Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but Norman Royston: it Paul Zanghi: it's Norman Royston: should Paul Zanghi: so Norman Royston: be li like this big, and I Philip Polito: No, Norman Royston: don't Philip Polito: no, Norman Royston: think Paul Zanghi: I Philip Polito: only Paul Zanghi: don't think Philip Polito: the Paul Zanghi: we Philip Polito: T_V_ Paul Zanghi: should do Philip Polito: channel Paul Zanghi: it. Philip Polito: with the with uh with uh four programmes. You can uh zap through them with the page up page down button. Norman Royston: Yes sure, but it it has to to show an entire title of a programme or at least a q a quite Philip Polito: Yes, it Norman Royston: quite Philip Polito: can Norman Royston: large part of it and then Philip Polito: On Norman Royston: you Philip Polito: your Norman Royston: get a very large L_C_D_ Philip Polito: No, Norman Royston: screen, Philip Polito: on Norman Royston: because Philip Polito: your mobile phone you can y you can read text also. So why not on your remote? Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but no. Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: I don't Paul Zanghi: do Norman Royston: know. Paul Zanghi: I think it's a bit redundant, actually. And it's also not I don't th even think it it looks s like sexy Steve Reilly: Well well Paul Zanghi: or Steve Reilly: what Paul Zanghi: something, Steve Reilly: would you Paul Zanghi: it's Steve Reilly: display on it then? Philip Polito: Uh, programme uh information Norman Royston: Programme information. Philip Polito: or Steve Reilly: But Philip Polito: or Steve Reilly: is Norman Royston: But Steve Reilly: it Philip Polito: or Steve Reilly: isn't Philip Polito: or Steve Reilly: that Philip Polito: g Steve Reilly: a already Philip Polito: or a guide Steve Reilly: on T_V_, a lot of new T_V_s? Norman Royston: Well a lot a lot of Philip Polito: But Norman Royston: T_V_s indeed show uh when you uh Paul Zanghi: But you're already Norman Royston: zap Paul Zanghi: watching Norman Royston: to Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: a Paul Zanghi: T_V_, you're not gonna watch your remote control. Philip Polito: Yes, but you also want to know what's next. Norman Royston: But then we also uh w need to bring out a line of T_V_s which we were planning Steve Reilly: Yeah, and Norman Royston: to, Steve Reilly: we Norman Royston: but Steve Reilly: also Norman Royston: whatever. Steve Reilly: have to Norman Royston: Because Steve Reilly: yeah. Norman Royston: the T_V_ has to send information back to the R_C_, and I don't know if that's Philip Polito: Yes, Norman Royston: possible. Philip Polito: that's uh really possible. Norman Royston: Yes, yes, o of course it's possible, but you gotta uh implement it in the T_V_s, and I don't think everyone's gonna buy a Real Reaction T_V_ within a month after the release of our uh remote Steve Reilly: And Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: control. Paul Zanghi: really Steve Reilly: I also Paul Zanghi: understand you want to make your job more exciting by putting an L_C_D_ in it, but I I really don't think it's a good n goo because it also doesn't stroke with we wanted uh c When we talk about the materials, uh it's a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it. It was our idea, you know, to give it a more sturdy look and that you Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: ca like you can throw with it. But I don't think a L_C_D_ display fits in that image. You know, it's like more vulnerable, and it adds Norman Royston: That's Paul Zanghi: nothing Norman Royston: true, Paul Zanghi: really, Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: you know. Norman Royston: true, it breaks f yeah, it it it's not very solid, it's uh frag Paul Zanghi: Yeah, yeah. Norman Royston: fragile. Paul Zanghi: You could make it, but it's just it it doesn't I don't think it it's coherent with the design we're after. Norman Royston: No. No. I don't think so ei either. Paul Zanghi: But that's my opinion. Well, you you y Okay, we can vote for it. You want the L_C_D_ display. Philip Polito: No. Paul Zanghi: I don't want to and he doesn't, so it's up to him. If Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: we wanna Steve Reilly: I Norman Royston: Ah. Steve Reilly: dunno. Paul Zanghi: And I've read somewhere that I've got some kind of veto veto uh rights. Steve Reilly: Oh, Norman Royston: Bastard. Steve Reilly: okay. Paul Zanghi: So I can also say Steve Reilly: We can you Paul Zanghi: But did Steve Reilly: away. Paul Zanghi: we skip the Yeah, you could do m but what what i so what i but do Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: you think Steve Reilly: I don't Paul Zanghi: we should Steve Reilly: know. Uh, uh I i if it's it's a simple Paul Zanghi: We're not even Steve Reilly: p Paul Zanghi: sure what what information we want to display Steve Reilly: No, Philip Polito: No Paul Zanghi: on Steve Reilly: that Paul Zanghi: it. So Steve Reilly: that's right, Philip Polito: uh Steve Reilly: and Philip Polito: um Steve Reilly: uh I also have to think about new functions, maybe buttons or something like that to control it. Kind of L_C_D_ or something or Philip Polito: Y yes, Norman Royston: Yeah, Philip Polito: you Norman Royston: I guess. Philip Polito: can use uh buttons uh uh w that are already uh on the remote control Steve Reilly: But how Philip Polito: for Steve Reilly: does Philip Polito: double Steve Reilly: it Philip Polito: functions. Steve Reilly: display then? W Philip Polito: Uh, then you Steve Reilly: when Philip Polito: push Steve Reilly: I go to Philip Polito: a Steve Reilly: the Philip Polito: button. Steve Reilly: second channel, what what does it show Norman Royston? Philip Polito: The title and the information about the programme. Steve Reilly: About Philip Polito: But Steve Reilly: that programme? Philip Polito: but uh yeah, what he said was right, about the televisions, they have to be uh customised Paul Zanghi: Nah, Philip Polito: to the Paul Zanghi: that's not gonna work. Philip Polito: But Norman Royston: No. Philip Polito: maybe in future it Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Philip Polito: will be a giant hit, and when you are the first you Paul Zanghi: Oh, Philip Polito: have Paul Zanghi: well Philip Polito: the Paul Zanghi: uh I've Philip Polito: biggest Paul Zanghi: seen it done Philip Polito: uh Paul Zanghi: before. Do Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: you know th like the the bigger rem uh universal remotes, they have d L_C_D_ displays, but then it's very functional to indicate which what uh uh device you are controlling. So it's that that's what I've seen. Norman Royston: Yeah, Philip Polito: Yes, Norman Royston: that's Philip Polito: you Norman Royston: true, Philip Polito: can put Norman Royston: if you Philip Polito: uh Norman Royston: uh Philip Polito: a little Norman Royston: Yeah. Philip Polito: L_C_D_ display on it with uh with lots of information. Paul Zanghi: But Philip Polito: But Paul Zanghi: it just Philip Polito: uh I Paul Zanghi: it j Philip Polito: haven't thought Paul Zanghi: it doesn't Philip Polito: about it. Paul Zanghi: doesn't match with the our whole basic concept. Philip Polito: But whe but when you put a a a transparent uh plastic uh uh screen on top of it, it i it isn't vulnerable. Paul Zanghi: Well Philip Polito: You can throw with Paul Zanghi: yeah, yeah, Philip Polito: it Paul Zanghi: okay. Philip Polito: and Paul Zanghi: That's maybe not the most important, but it's just Steve Reilly: Is it fashion? Philip Polito: When Paul Zanghi: I don't Philip Polito: when Paul Zanghi: think Philip Polito: you put Paul Zanghi: so. Philip Polito: uh maybe a colour L_C_D_ t uh screen on it, it's very special and very trendy to have Steve Reilly: I don't Philip Polito: uh Steve Reilly: know. Philip Polito: a remote Steve Reilly: That's Philip Polito: control Steve Reilly: not up to you. That's up to Philip Polito: from Steve Reilly: market if i if it's trendy. Paul Zanghi: Yeah, well do you ha do you have to You haven't Norman Royston: No. Paul Zanghi: looked after the trendiness of L_C_D_ displays, Steve Reilly: Because Norman Royston: Well, Steve Reilly: our Paul Zanghi: have Norman Royston: I Steve Reilly: our Norman Royston: think Steve Reilly: motto Paul Zanghi: you? Norman Royston: it's uh Steve Reilly: is Norman Royston: I think Steve Reilly: we put Norman Royston: it's pretty Steve Reilly: fashion Norman Royston: trendy, to be honest, uh but um I don't know if if if well, I'm coming back to the costs again, but I think uh we gotta build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits. And I think uh especially colour L_C_D_, which is indeed pretty trendy. But I don't think Uh, I think it will be too expensive. Philip Polito: But uh I've got a the email with uh with the possibilities. And L_C_D_ was a possibility for the remote Paul Zanghi: Yeah yeah Philip Polito: control. Paul Zanghi: yeah. Philip Polito: So why don't we use it. Norman Royston: Uh, Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Norman Royston: did Paul Zanghi: but Norman Royston: it Paul Zanghi: we're Norman Royston: say Paul Zanghi: gonna Norman Royston: a price Paul Zanghi: if it Norman Royston: also uh for for uh monogramme uh L_C_D_ or uh coloured L_C_D_? Steve Reilly: Yeah, if you want to be trendy you have to be coloured. Coloured Norman Royston: Yeah really, if y if you Steve Reilly: If you have black Norman Royston: c i Steve Reilly: and white or something, or grey, Norman Royston: I in Paul Zanghi: Then Steve Reilly: that's Paul Zanghi: uh then Norman Royston: in Paul Zanghi: you Norman Royston: two Paul Zanghi: better Norman Royston: thousand Paul Zanghi: don't Norman Royston: and four Paul Zanghi: yeah, Norman Royston: you Paul Zanghi: d Norman Royston: can't uh put something on the market which is a monogramme. Really. Philip Polito: No, but it doesn't sa say anything about a colour or But, mm, I alf I also got a possibility to put uh a scroll button on it. But Paul Zanghi: Uh Philip Polito: I didn't Paul Zanghi: uh I really Philip Polito: think Paul Zanghi: don't Philip Polito: that Paul Zanghi: feel the whole idea of an L_C_D_ display. I'm sorry. It can't co you cannot convince Norman Royston. I don't know how well how to with you guys, but I don't really feel it. We already we're Steve Reilly: It's too Paul Zanghi: uh Steve Reilly: much uh maybe uh with Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Steve Reilly: with Paul Zanghi: we Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: the Paul Zanghi: already Steve Reilly: L_C_D_ Paul Zanghi: have Steve Reilly: and Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: the Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: docking Paul Zanghi: th th th Steve Reilly: station Paul Zanghi: base station Steve Reilly: and Paul Zanghi: gadgets, and want and it uh uh, do it has to be a simple design, which Philip Polito: Yes, but o Paul Zanghi: sturdy, Philip Polito: on Norman Royston: W we've Philip Polito: the Norman Royston: we've gotta Paul Zanghi: which Norman Royston: find Steve Reilly: With one Norman Royston: a balance, Paul Zanghi: soft Steve Reilly: thing Norman Royston: of course. Steve Reilly: special. Norman Royston: And I think Steve Reilly: Not a whole Paul Zanghi: I don't Steve Reilly: package Paul Zanghi: think Steve Reilly: of specialty. Paul Zanghi: I j uh, and really, I don't see how the the L_C_D_ display is gonna add anything, you know, on a design level. Uh, I think it's Philip Polito: No, Paul Zanghi: slicker Philip Polito: when y Paul Zanghi: to have no L_ CEDs. Y we want to Philip Polito: But Paul Zanghi: it's Philip Polito: it look Paul Zanghi: simplicity, w you have two big buttons and you can do whatever you want Philip Polito: Yes, but Paul Zanghi: with these two buttons, so Philip Polito: that Paul Zanghi: you don't Philip Polito: remote Paul Zanghi: need Philip Polito: controls Paul Zanghi: an L_C_D_. Philip Polito: are already on the market. Paul Zanghi: It doesn't fit Philip Polito: The simple Paul Zanghi: in our philosophy uh behind the whole remote. Philip Polito: Yes, but but when you want to have something special Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but we already have the docking station, which is Philip Polito: Yes, Norman Royston: We have Philip Polito: but Norman Royston: a Steve Reilly: And Philip Polito: you Norman Royston: pear. Philip Polito: had Steve Reilly: uh Philip Polito: a Steve Reilly: the Philip Polito: picture of it from another company. Paul Zanghi: It has to be developed, Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: but no, but it that's that's Steve Reilly: It's Paul Zanghi: our Steve Reilly: just Paul Zanghi: that's Steve Reilly: an Paul Zanghi: our Steve Reilly: it's just Paul Zanghi: killer Steve Reilly: an idea. Paul Zanghi: feature. That's Steve Reilly: It's Paul Zanghi: our Philip Polito: Yes, Steve Reilly: a it's Philip Polito: it Paul Zanghi: what Philip Polito: was Paul Zanghi: makes Philip Polito: already Paul Zanghi: it special. Philip Polito: made. Tha the remote control Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Steve Reilly: True. Paul Zanghi: we're gonna Philip Polito: on the docking Paul Zanghi: develop Philip Polito: station. Paul Zanghi: our own r Norman Royston: Is Paul Zanghi: n Norman Royston: that Paul Zanghi: docking Norman Royston: so? Paul Zanghi: station. Norman Royston: Was it Philip Polito: Yes, he Steve Reilly: Well Philip Polito: have Norman Royston: it Steve Reilly: uh Philip Polito: a picture Norman Royston: wasn't just Steve Reilly: I Philip Polito: of Steve Reilly: uh Norman Royston: a Philip Polito: it. Norman Royston: prototype? Steve Reilly: Yeah, I dunno. Norman Royston: Exactly, I've never seen it Paul Zanghi: Uh, Norman Royston: in Paul Zanghi: but Norman Royston: a store. Paul Zanghi: re we really have to cut this off, I re I know you I I I I I get the idea you really like it, you know, the the L_C_D_ thing, but I I think it's it's not a good idea, and we have already mentioned all the arguments. I don't uh, do you guys agre How do you guys think? I d Steve Reilly: No, it's too much. Norman Royston: I think it's a little too much, yeah. Steve Reilly: It's overdone. Paul Zanghi: Okay, we s skip Philip Polito: Okay. Paul Zanghi: the L_C_D_ display. Norman Royston: Okay. Paul Zanghi: I'm sorry, maybe Steve Reilly: Democratically. Paul Zanghi: you can Norman Royston: No. Paul Zanghi: do something if we are at your own place, or make it make Philip Polito: Mayb Paul Zanghi: it make it happen in your basement or something. Philip Polito: I will Paul Zanghi: But Philip Polito: rule the world with Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: Probably Norman Royston: yeah, yeah, yeah. Paul Zanghi: so. Okay. Philip Polito: it. Paul Zanghi: But for the technical part. The m material, I think uh it was a good idea to use the plastic and uh the rubber. Philip Polito: Yes, Paul Zanghi: Uh Philip Polito: maybe a bit of a cushion is Paul Zanghi: Yeah yeah yeah, p Exactly. This Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: is what Norman Royston: for Paul Zanghi: it Norman Royston: the Paul Zanghi: w Norman Royston: spongy uh Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but Philip Polito: Yes. Norman Royston: feel. Paul Zanghi: it it was already Steve Reilly: With a spongy Paul Zanghi: what Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: we're Steve Reilly: Bob feel. Paul Zanghi: uh we're after, you know, to give it uh, you know, the soft touch in your hands Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: and also to, know, like Yeah, that is y the b airbag Philip Polito: Like a Paul Zanghi: kind of Philip Polito: b Paul Zanghi: thing. Philip Polito: yes. Paul Zanghi: You Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: can st Steve Reilly: you just Norman Royston: Yeah, Steve Reilly: can Norman Royston: airbag. Steve Reilly: drop it. Paul Zanghi: throw it at your Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: little brother's Norman Royston: If you drop Paul Zanghi: head. Norman Royston: it if you drop it the airbag comes out, Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: yeah. Paul Zanghi: Yeah. No no no, not that Philip Polito: Maybe Paul Zanghi: comfy. Philip Polito: it but then we have to look that it uh w uh will not um be too childish to see. Paul Zanghi: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's a that's a good point. And that's why I like the dark t col dark colour bit, you know, Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: because it may be the design uh, it's uh maybe it is a bit of Steve Reilly: But Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: not black I think. Paul Zanghi: it's a bit nineties Norman Royston: No. Paul Zanghi: maybe, what we're what we're up to rat fun to Steve Reilly: Well Paul Zanghi: this point. Steve Reilly: if if it's fruit and vegetables, it have to be colourful. Paul Zanghi: Yeah, that's Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: that's true, but Norman Royston: b Steve Reilly: But Norman Royston: yeah, Steve Reilly: can Norman Royston: that's Steve Reilly: we Norman Royston: what Steve Reilly: ge uh Norman Royston: w I I Paul Zanghi: but Norman Royston: was Paul Zanghi: it Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: has Norman Royston: pointing Paul Zanghi: to be Norman Royston: at. Paul Zanghi: a little big solid. It mustn't be too, n you know, th too overwhelming, then when you put it Steve Reilly: Can Paul Zanghi: on Steve Reilly: we Paul Zanghi: your Steve Reilly: combine Paul Zanghi: just Steve Reilly: it or something? Uh with Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Steve Reilly: uh yellow and black? Paul Zanghi: Yeah, maybe so. Steve Reilly: Make it a bee? Norman Royston: What? Steve Reilly: A bee. Norman Royston: Oh, a bee. Oh. Paul Zanghi: No, uh I don't like the yellow and black combination. But it is our company colours. Philip Polito: Yes, Paul Zanghi: Apparently. Steve Reilly: Yeah, Philip Polito: real real Steve Reilly: it's our Philip Polito: good colours. Steve Reilly: yeah. We we have to use yellow. Norman Royston: Yeah. Hmm. Philip Polito: Hmm. Paul Zanghi: I don't like yellow, and uh maybe Norman Royston: Well, Paul Zanghi: I Norman Royston: we Paul Zanghi: don't Norman Royston: can Paul Zanghi: know. Norman Royston: as as I Philip Polito: But that's not really fruity. Norman Royston: draw really nicely over there. We can put the logo on our uh on our base station. Uh, yeah. And maybe Paul Zanghi: But Norman Royston: very very tiny on the remote control itself. But, i Paul Zanghi: Okay, but what uh, what are other tef technical things we have to discuss? Philip Polito: Uh fronts of the We can have uh different uh uh fronts of the Paul Zanghi: Should we do that? Philip Polito: telephone. Paul Zanghi: I don't think you we should do that. Maybe just bring it Steve Reilly: Different Paul Zanghi: out in different Steve Reilly: fronts. Paul Zanghi: colours, but not Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: af that you can Norman Royston: I Paul Zanghi: switch Norman Royston: guess that's that's Paul Zanghi: fronts Norman Royston: enough. Paul Zanghi: afterwards, that's also too much. People Norman Royston: That's Paul Zanghi: don't Norman Royston: way too Paul Zanghi: wanna Norman Royston: Nokia. Paul Zanghi: spend more money Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: on their remote control, I guess. Steve Reilly: Uh, you can you can l uh Philip Polito: Are these designs? Steve Reilly: let choose the customer which colour he wants, Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Steve Reilly: yeah. Paul Zanghi: yeah. Norman Royston: Yeah, definitely. Steve Reilly: Yeah, Three Norman Royston: Just bring Steve Reilly: three Norman Royston: more Steve Reilly: or Norman Royston: designs Steve Reilly: four Norman Royston: on the market. Steve Reilly: uh four uh colours, Paul Zanghi: But Steve Reilly: or Paul Zanghi: uh, Steve Reilly: something Norman Royston: Why Paul Zanghi: without Norman Royston: not, Steve Reilly: like that. Paul Zanghi: gon Norman Royston: yeah. Paul Zanghi: uh okay. So, are we through the technical part then? Philip Polito: Yes. Paul Zanghi: Okay. So we uh agreed upon uh n uh well, not u Philip Polito: It Paul Zanghi: unanimously Steve Reilly: Well, yeah, the Philip Polito: this a real Paul Zanghi: or how you call Philip Polito: uh Paul Zanghi: it, Philip Polito: young Steve Reilly: Three Paul Zanghi: but Steve Reilly: to one. Philip Polito: young and dynamic Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Steve Reilly: That's Philip Polito: uh uh styles. Paul Zanghi: The materials you uh mentioned in your your personal Philip Polito: Yes. Paul Zanghi: preferences were all were quite okay. O Steve Reilly: And Philip Polito: Yes, Steve Reilly: tita Paul Zanghi: o only only Steve Reilly: uh Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: titanium, Paul Zanghi: last point your Steve Reilly: is uh is Paul Zanghi: no titanium's Steve Reilly: is it a no? Paul Zanghi: not not Steve Reilly: Is Paul Zanghi: out of question, I guess. Philip Polito: But Steve Reilly: It's Philip Polito: also Steve Reilly: just like that, Philip Polito: w Steve Reilly: th this titanium. Philip Polito: Yes, b bu but Paul Zanghi: But Philip Polito: when Paul Zanghi: is Philip Polito: we Paul Zanghi: it Philip Polito: use Paul Zanghi: possible Philip Polito: s Paul Zanghi: to use Philip Polito: soft Paul Zanghi: both the the Philip Polito: mm Paul Zanghi: plastic and so uh soft things and t p titanium, as well? Norman Royston: Sure. Paul Zanghi: Makes Philip Polito: Mm. Paul Zanghi: it in a homogeneous Steve Reilly: No, not all, Paul Zanghi: uh Steve Reilly: not all Paul Zanghi: design. Steve Reilly: of them. Philip Polito: But it it then it uh you can't throw it it. It will uh make a huge noise or break other stuff when you throw Paul Zanghi: It Philip Polito: with Paul Zanghi: will Philip Polito: uh Paul Zanghi: it Philip Polito: titanium Paul Zanghi: will break other stuff w Philip Polito: with Paul Zanghi: when Philip Polito: your remote Paul Zanghi: it's plastic, Philip Polito: control. Paul Zanghi: as well. Philip Polito: No uh, Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Philip Polito: titanium Norman Royston: Yeah, that's Philip Polito: is a Norman Royston: true. Philip Polito: bit uh Paul Zanghi: No, but uh uh, you Philip Polito: it's Paul Zanghi: should Philip Polito: a bit Paul Zanghi: ma Philip Polito: harder. Paul Zanghi: Yeah. Philip Polito: But also on the colours, the Paul Zanghi: Okay, Philip Polito: young Paul Zanghi: think of the possibilities and make it in completely titanium. Well would it be more trendy? More chic? Norman Royston: Yeah, I think it Steve Reilly: Uh, I think Norman Royston: I think Steve Reilly: titanium Norman Royston: it does. Steve Reilly: nowadays is way more often used than plastic. Philip Polito: Yes, but a titanium Steve Reilly: In trendy things. Philip Polito: remote control, when you're uh watching T_V_ uh or your hands Norman Royston: Yeah, Philip Polito: are Norman Royston: o Philip Polito: a little bit sweaty, and the Norman Royston: On the other hand, if you want Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: to make fruit fruity Steve Reilly: It's cold Norman Royston: stuff Steve Reilly: in the winter. Norman Royston: with Philip Polito: Yes. Norman Royston: uh Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but I I really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: thing. But the question is i then it's, you know, is is Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: it Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: fits Norman Royston: true, Paul Zanghi: in our Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: s philosophy Norman Royston: true. Paul Zanghi: to make it uh sturdy and simple and uh, know, like uh Philip Polito: Sports and gaming. Paul Zanghi: When Philip Polito: Define. Paul Zanghi: you make it titanium, it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually don't need. And when it's big and plastic, it's like some fun stuff you can always have around. It's always fun to have something big and plastic Norman Royston: Yes. Steve Reilly: You Paul Zanghi: around. Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: have that uh M_P_ three player of Nike, I saw. Isn't that titanium with a little bit of rubber? Philip Polito: Yes, it's w Steve Reilly: Isn't it Philip Polito: but it is uh plastic. Steve Reilly: Is plastic? Well, it's titanium looking. Philip Polito: Yes, Norman Royston: What? Philip Polito: w we can do that on Steve Reilly: Yeah, Philip Polito: the Steve Reilly: he is. Here Philip Polito: on the Steve Reilly: he is. Uh, the I don't know if you know the M_P_ three player of Nike. 'Kay, uh that Norman Royston: Oh, yeah. Steve Reilly: that's Norman Royston: Okay, Steve Reilly: very Norman Royston: yeah. Steve Reilly: uh with rubber, Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Norman Royston: Yeah, Steve Reilly: so Norman Royston: I Paul Zanghi: that's Steve Reilly: it's Norman Royston: see. Paul Zanghi: beautiful. Steve Reilly: very Philip Polito: We can Norman Royston: Yeah, but Philip Polito: make Norman Royston: but Philip Polito: this Norman Royston: but Philip Polito: as Steve Reilly: rough. Philip Polito: a style too. Uh, this is uh just Paul Zanghi: Oh, Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: maybe Philip Polito: a Norman Royston: I Paul Zanghi: th Norman Royston: th Paul Zanghi: maybe Norman Royston: I think Paul Zanghi: this is Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: an Norman Royston: difficult, because uh that's different material, and then you gotta have like uh uh uh two material lines Philip Polito: No, Norman Royston: of Philip Polito: we Norman Royston: of Philip Polito: c we can Norman Royston: of Philip Polito: make it from the same kind of plastic. Norman Royston: Yeah, if it's just a colour uh which you uh which you change then, I guess it's it's nice to have one of these. Uh Philip Polito: Uh Paul Zanghi: No, I do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind type of body w and then with s plastic colouration around it. You Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: know, like the the soft stuff, but I don't know if it's possible. Philip Polito: I don't have the information. Uh, I I didn't got it Paul Zanghi: But you can't make the plastic give uh the ti titanium look. Philip Polito: Yes. Steve Reilly: True. Paul Zanghi: But make Norman Royston: Mm-hmm. Paul Zanghi: it just like shiny. Steve Reilly: Yeah yeah, true. Paul Zanghi: Maybe Philip Polito: Like Paul Zanghi: we should Philip Polito: the Paul Zanghi: uh Philip Polito: M_P_ Paul Zanghi: shou Steve Reilly: Yeah, Philip Polito: three player. Steve Reilly: maybe that's good idea, yeah. But if you want to la uh yeah, last longer Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: than two weeks or something Paul Zanghi: And Steve Reilly: like Paul Zanghi: uh and Steve Reilly: that, you can maybe Paul Zanghi: maybe we sh should we t I don't know if we should talk about uh, how how much time Philip Polito: Uh, in Paul Zanghi: have Philip Polito: a Paul Zanghi: we Philip Polito: lot Paul Zanghi: got left? Philip Polito: of other uh Steve Reilly: I don't know. What time Paul Zanghi: Forty Steve Reilly: does Paul Zanghi: minutes. Philip Polito: in a lot of other product uh categories like uh even in b in bags industry. Uh, they began with uh t typical uh leather bags, but then they became stylish, with all all si all sort of colours, and Norman Royston: Yeah. Philip Polito: w kind of fon of uh of fronts, Paul Zanghi: Okay. Philip Polito: like we can use on the telephone and it Like Eastpack uh began a revolution with it with all this uh kind of bags and and colours and Paul Zanghi: You putting Philip Polito: and Paul Zanghi: in different colours. Philip Polito: Yes, and and styles. Paul Zanghi: Okay. Philip Polito: They have uh also uh a kind of uh um uh roses on it, a and Norman Royston: Uh Philip Polito: uh Norman Royston: yeah, Paul Zanghi: Okay. Norman Royston: yeah. Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but w yeah. Well, it is. It's a possibility. But, let's think Philip Polito: Then Paul Zanghi: about the Philip Polito: we Paul Zanghi: bas Philip Polito: can always uh use the same design for a greater resemblance, but with new uh Norman Royston: Yes. Philip Polito: with new colours, new Norman Royston: New prints Paul Zanghi: Mm-hmm, Philip Polito: yes. Norman Royston: on it. Yep. Paul Zanghi: mm-hmm. But wha th our basic idea y I mean, you gonna we're probably gonna have like two type of materials, like the d d b the plastic uh enclosure and then the the pads that surround it. And and pro and lights. We have to incorporate the lights too. But, uh do w gonna gonna are we going to give it a two-tone colour look, like the the plastic mould is in in one colour and the s the cushion pads around it are in another colour? Is that the idea? Is that a good idea? Norman Royston: How do you mean? Th th the uh Steve Reilly: The rubber. Norman Royston: base Paul Zanghi: How many Norman Royston: in a Paul Zanghi: colours Norman Royston: in another Paul Zanghi: are we how many colours are we gonna we're uh uh f uh f Only five minutes left, by the way. Norman Royston: Yes. Paul Zanghi: How many colours are we gonna give it? Like two-tone Philip Polito: There Paul Zanghi: colour? T Steve Reilly: Yeah. Philip Polito: there Steve Reilly: Uh Philip Polito: are three Steve Reilly: no, not Philip Polito: uh components Steve Reilly: too much I think. Philip Polito: three components type. You have the buttons, the the Norman Royston: How the buttons Philip Polito: case Norman Royston: yeah. Philip Polito: uh itself, Paul Zanghi: I think maybe the case Philip Polito: and the Paul Zanghi: itself Philip Polito: rubber Paul Zanghi: should Philip Polito: and th Paul Zanghi: be in one colour and then the rubber of the buttons, and the cushions Philip Polito: Yes. Paul Zanghi: as well should be in another Steve Reilly: Or Paul Zanghi: colour. Steve Reilly: you just Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: make uh one colour, uh maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like uh Paul Zanghi: Okay, but not Steve Reilly: In Paul Zanghi: more Steve Reilly: in Paul Zanghi: than Steve Reilly: another colour. Paul Zanghi: Well, yeah, Steve Reilly: Not Paul Zanghi: it's Steve Reilly: more than two colours Paul Zanghi: No. Steve Reilly: I think. Norman Royston: No, Steve Reilly: It's Norman Royston: definitely Steve Reilly: a g a Norman Royston: not. Steve Reilly: little Paul Zanghi: Maybe we should Steve Reilly: bit too Paul Zanghi: talk Steve Reilly: flashy. Paul Zanghi: about it on a l in Norman Royston: Yes, Paul Zanghi: a Philip Polito: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: later meeting. Philip Polito: or Norman Royston: definitely. Philip Polito: or when you use the buttons as black, it you can use two colours as well Paul Zanghi: Okay. Philip Polito: uh Paul Zanghi: But we have to uh think of some other uh important things. Uh oh yeah, the the functionalities Steve Reilly: The Paul Zanghi: of Steve Reilly: funct Paul Zanghi: the the Steve Reilly: yeah, Paul Zanghi: buttons. Steve Reilly: I was I was thinking about th the st do we still want a joystick idea. Paul Zanghi: No. Norman Royston: No, I think that's too vulnerable. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: I think this is okay, the so we have the basic. Then we have the numbers. We have the power button. We have Steve Reilly: The Paul Zanghi: we have a teletext button. Steve Reilly: volume, teletext and Paul Zanghi: And maybe want to access a a menu or something. Norman Royston: Yeah, but Paul Zanghi: Most Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: T_V_s Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: have a Norman Royston: I Paul Zanghi: menu. Norman Royston: was thinking that's gotta be on the television. Paul Zanghi: Yeah, but Steve Reilly: Yeah Paul Zanghi: I think Steve Reilly: yeah yeah Paul Zanghi: you ha Steve Reilly: yeah, Paul Zanghi: I really need Steve Reilly: b Paul Zanghi: a menu button. That's just i the Steve Reilly: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: only Steve Reilly: but Paul Zanghi: button Steve Reilly: wha what Paul Zanghi: only Steve Reilly: kind of menu? Paul Zanghi: You know, Steve Reilly: Is Paul Zanghi: I Steve Reilly: uh isn't that different from every television? Paul Zanghi: No, I think most T_V_s Norman Royston: Mm. Paul Zanghi: have an uh Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: a Norman Royston: if Paul Zanghi: menu Norman Royston: it's c Paul Zanghi: nowadays Norman Royston: if Paul Zanghi: to access the uh uh screen settings. And Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: so Norman Royston: I think it's okay to to add a menu button for uh Paul Zanghi: But that Norman Royston: and if Paul Zanghi: that Norman Royston: the Paul Zanghi: covers Norman Royston: T_V_ doesn't Paul Zanghi: all the Norman Royston: have a menu, Paul Zanghi: all the Norman Royston: then Paul Zanghi: other settings. It covers everything then. Philip Polito: But then Norman Royston: Yeah. Philip Polito: you have to put uh up and down and uh left Norman Royston: Yeah, Philip Polito: and right Norman Royston: you Paul Zanghi: No, Norman Royston: can Paul Zanghi: you can Norman Royston: put Paul Zanghi: use Norman Royston: that on Paul Zanghi: the Norman Royston: the two eight four and six Paul Zanghi: And you Norman Royston: or Paul Zanghi: al Norman Royston: whatever. Paul Zanghi: can also use the normal Philip Polito: Okay. Paul Zanghi: skip buttons for that. Th in that way Norman Royston: Mm, Paul Zanghi: we Norman Royston: yeah. Paul Zanghi: have like only the numbers, the power button, skip and volume, and then uh uh ten uh rem Norman Royston: A mute and Paul Zanghi: uh yeah, Norman Royston: a Steve Reilly: Mute. Norman Royston: teletext Paul Zanghi: mute. A teletext Norman Royston: and a menu. Paul Zanghi: and a menu, and then then i Norman Royston: That's Paul Zanghi: that's Norman Royston: all. Paul Zanghi: it. It's all we need. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: Hmm. Paul Zanghi: Okay, Norman Royston: Great. Paul Zanghi: uh Norman Royston: Yeah. Steve Reilly: Okay, that's not mu Paul Zanghi: another Steve Reilly: not Paul Zanghi: stuf Steve Reilly: much functions. Paul Zanghi: some stuff Steve Reilly: So Paul Zanghi: about the the the design of the docking station. Something important about a s uh, no, uh which sh uh should remind us of the remote itself, I guess. Norman Royston: Yeah, definitely. Paul Zanghi: Uh, in one colour. Norman Royston: Are we gonna Paul Zanghi: Just Norman Royston: do Paul Zanghi: use Norman Royston: something with the uh spongy thing there? Paul Zanghi: I think the Philip Polito: Uh Paul Zanghi: spongy thing already um comes forward in the in the in the cushions, pads and Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: things on the Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: s uh Norman Royston: true, Paul Zanghi: side. Norman Royston: that's Paul Zanghi: And we Norman Royston: true. Paul Zanghi: will make it spongy and and uh and uh well, the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did I think this is kind of fruity, you know. Just round shapes with uh Norman Royston: Yeah, it's kinda fruity, and with th with catchy colours uh Paul Zanghi: Yeah, Norman Royston: uh Paul Zanghi: but we're gonna have Norman Royston: w Paul Zanghi: to we really have to think I think colours is very important, because it has to be flashy, but and but it d it doesn't have to be annoying, that when you uh, know, some things is just over the top, and when you have Norman Royston: Yeah, Paul Zanghi: it on Norman Royston: definitely. Paul Zanghi: your table for more than two weeks, you it just gets annoying, because it's so big and flashy. Uh, it has to be some level of subtlety, but we have to still have to think of how we manage to uh to get Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: to that. Okay. Norman Royston: Okay. Paul Zanghi: Guess we're through then. Norman Royston: I Steve Reilly: Okay. Norman Royston: guess so. Paul Zanghi: But we I think also we just so we have to do something with colour but also, I I think we have to keep the dark colour thing in mind. I think Norman Royston: Yes. Paul Zanghi: that's Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: uh adds to the too much colour maybe m Steve Reilly: Too much Paul Zanghi: um Steve Reilly: colour, i it uh when you got it in a living room, it's Paul Zanghi: But Steve Reilly: too Paul Zanghi: our Steve Reilly: much Paul Zanghi: des Steve Reilly: maybe. Paul Zanghi: design Norman Royston: Yea yeah. Paul Zanghi: experts Steve Reilly: It Paul Zanghi: will Steve Reilly: has to Paul Zanghi: uh Steve Reilly: be Paul Zanghi: work that out. Okay, Norman Royston: Yep. Paul Zanghi: well Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: I think the meeting will be over within a minute. So Norman Royston: Something Paul Zanghi: we will Norman Royston: like Paul Zanghi: wrap Norman Royston: that. Paul Zanghi: up. Or is there anything we'd like to discuss? Norman Royston: I guess not. Paul Zanghi: That's right. Okay. Norman Royston: Do you, guys? Steve Reilly: No. Norman Royston: No? Paul Zanghi: Okay. Well, you will read the minutes uh in the you can find them Norman Royston: In Paul Zanghi: in Norman Royston: the shared Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: Oh, okay, Norman Royston: folder. Steve Reilly: yeah. Paul Zanghi: pro probably. Yeah uh no, for su for sure because I'm will now type them out. Philip Polito: What are we going to do now? Paul Zanghi: Uh, Norman Royston: You'll Paul Zanghi: y yeah. Norman Royston: see in you email, Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: I guess. Paul Zanghi: I think uh Norman Royston: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Steve Reilly: I hope so. And the other thing is that you don't have kind of prototype or something like that. You see a kinda prototype you can Philip Polito: I Steve Reilly: a Philip Polito: will Steve Reilly: little Philip Polito: make one Steve Reilly: bit more Philip Polito: in the Steve Reilly: uh Philip Polito: next uh twenty minutes. Steve Reilly: Yeah. Norman Royston: Construct one, yeah. Paul Zanghi: But Steve Reilly: With you laptop? Paul Zanghi: toilet paper roll Steve Reilly: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: and uh Okay. Steve Reilly: Oh my God. Norman Royston: Alright, shall we get back to work? Paul Zanghi: Yep. Norman Royston: Great. Paul Zanghi: I was waiting for Steve Reilly: Well Paul Zanghi: the Steve Reilly: you Paul Zanghi: l Steve Reilly: are. Paul Zanghi: last Norman Royston: Yeah. Paul Zanghi: message, Steve Reilly: We're not. Paul Zanghi: but Norman Royston: Bastard. Philip Polito: Back to the pen. Norman Royston: You lazy Paul Zanghi: Mm yeah.	Philip Polito talked about the options available for materials and components. He suggested that the case should be double-curved, and be made from plastic and rubber rather than wood or titanium. He also recommended using basic batteries rather than solar or kinetic power. He also mentioned the possibility of using an LCD screen to add something special. Steve Reilly went over the functions to be included in the remote. The group discussed using large buttons for the most frequently used functions. Norman Royston gave a presentation on trend watching. A fancy look and feel is most important to users, followed by technological innovation and ease of use. The younger market also likes the theme of fruit and vegetables and spongy material, which could be implemented through fruity colours and using a spongy material for the base. The group discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, as well as the company colours and logo. The group discussed whether to include an LCD screen, and eventually decided against it. Paul Zanghi closed the meeting and told the group they would receive emails about their tasks for the next meeting.	3	amisum	train
Michael Stamps: Okay, welcome to the detailed design meeting. Again, I'm gonna take minutes. Oh, we're gonna have a prototype presentation first. Uh, who's gonna give the prototype presentation? You two guys? Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: Okay. Go ahead. Justin Thomas: coffee. Steven Miller: 'Kay, we've made a prototype Um, we've got uh uh our aspects from the last meeting. Uh, especially we looked at the form, material and the colour. Um, we've uh drawn here the p prototype. The logo is uh is uh is pretty uh obvious to see on the on the remote control, but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher. Um, our interface elements, there are shown in the drawing. Maybe you can uh point them uh The functions. Justin Thomas: Uh well, the uh all the functions are discussed uh I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious. Uh, it's a little bit. Uh, power button. Uh then the the the nine uh channels. Uh the volume uh uh at the side, and the other side is the programmes. And then we had uh just uh two buttons, we place them in the middle, uh the menu, and for the teletext Michael Stamps: Oh no, Justin Thomas: that Michael Stamps: the Scott Schofield: Alright, Justin Thomas: was th Michael Stamps: the Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: the mute button misses now. Justin Thomas: Oh, Michael Stamps: Do y do Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: you Justin Thomas: the mute Michael Stamps: did Justin Thomas: button. Steven Miller: But Michael Stamps: we want Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: to Steven Miller: that Michael Stamps: have a m Steven Miller: It's Michael Stamps: mute button? Steven Miller: uh here Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: then, in the middle. Scott Schofield: Alright, Michael Stamps: Huh. Scott Schofield: and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button Steven Miller: Yes, Scott Schofield: and Steven Miller: um Scott Schofield: which is the programme button. Steven Miller: we've Justin Thomas: Well, Steven Miller: disc Justin Thomas: yeah mo uh mo Yeah, well most of them are right-handed. Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: Most Scott Schofield: but Steven Miller: of Scott Schofield: you Steven Miller: the users Scott Schofield: you gotta make it clear on the on Steven Miller: Yes, y Justin Thomas: Yeah Steven Miller: there Justin Thomas: well, Steven Miller: there will be Justin Thomas: I Steven Miller: a p a Justin Thomas: don't Steven Miller: little Justin Thomas: have time in Steven Miller: a Justin Thomas: uh Steven Miller: little Justin Thomas: anymore Steven Miller: P_ on Justin Thomas: on the Steven Miller: that and Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: a little Scott Schofield: and a and Steven Miller: uh Scott Schofield: a triangle Justin Thomas: Oh yeah, just Scott Schofield: on that. Justin Thomas: progr Steven Miller: yeah. Justin Thomas: programme Scott Schofield: Yes. Justin Thomas: above, Scott Schofield: Next Justin Thomas: I think. Scott Schofield: to that I kinda miss a zero actually. Michael Stamps: Wait, there's was one thing I wanted to ask. Uh, there are different ways for remote to uh do like uh d I call it teens and twenties. Uh, y Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: th th th the two numbers. Scott Schofield: All n no, that's um Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: It's a television. Justin Thomas: true, Scott Schofield: kinda dependent Justin Thomas: yeah. Scott Schofield: on the television. Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Justin Thomas: Uh Michael Stamps: but do we have do we need extra buttons, for example Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: Uh Scott Schofield: think Michael Stamps: some uh some Justin Thomas: I Steven Miller: Yes, Justin Thomas: think Michael Stamps: have to Justin Thomas: so. Steven Miller: yes, you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it, uh Scott Schofield: Yeah, I think Steven Miller: th Scott Schofield: you Steven Miller: with Scott Schofield: should Steven Miller: the Scott Schofield: add Steven Miller: one and a double Justin Thomas: Zero? Steven Miller: uh uh Scott Schofield: A cross, or whatever. Justin Thomas: May Michael Stamps: Yeah, but you Scott Schofield: Yeah, Justin Thomas: maybe Steven Miller: yes. Michael Stamps: don't Scott Schofield: line. Justin Thomas: here? Michael Stamps: you don't actually need them, becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: one first, then Justin Thomas: And Michael Stamps: you Justin Thomas: then Michael Stamps: have Justin Thomas: a second. Scott Schofield: No, Michael Stamps: a Scott Schofield: that's Michael Stamps: couple Scott Schofield: dependent Michael Stamps: of seconds Scott Schofield: on the television. Michael Stamps: No, I don't think so. Steven Miller: Yes, you have Scott Schofield: I Steven Miller: televisions, Scott Schofield: do know so. Steven Miller: then you have to, Justin Thomas: Is Steven Miller: you Justin Thomas: it Steven Miller: know, you Justin Thomas: depending Steven Miller: have to Justin Thomas: on television? Steven Miller: uh press Michael Stamps: Nah, I Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: don't think so really, because you have a I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons, but you still can, know, obviously you can still Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: select the twenty uh Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: a number in the Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: twenty Steven Miller: a lot Michael Stamps: or Scott Schofield: Yes, Michael Stamps: in the Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: ten. Scott Schofield: but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um they come with the television. Or actually, the other way around. But Michael Stamps: No, I think uh I really think it's n because you can when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash, Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: it's the same thing as when you just push the one, because it i it first Steven Miller: Yes, but Michael Stamps: gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: uh Scott Schofield: well Michael Stamps: apply. Scott Schofield: but su Steven Miller: some Scott Schofield: If Steven Miller: televisions don't accept uh Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: that Michael Stamps: because Steven Miller: that Michael Stamps: that's i it's for television. It's exact the same thing. Steven Miller: No, no, but Scott Schofield: No no no. So some Steven Miller: s Scott Schofield: television respond differently. Look, if uh i Michael Stamps: No, Scott Schofield: i Michael Stamps: listen listen. When you push the button, the remote control gives a signal. I in th in the first place Scott Schofield: Yes. Michael Stamps: it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it. Scott Schofield: Yes, that's Michael Stamps: The one Scott Schofield: true. Michael Stamps: with dash, that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds, then the remote control Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: gives a signal for channel one. Justin Thomas: True. Scott Schofield: No Michael Stamps: I think it works that way, Scott Schofield: No, it Michael Stamps: really. Scott Schofield: it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it, uh if you push a one, then on your television there will appear a one and a a line, Michael Stamps: Yeah, but it's exact Scott Schofield: which is Michael Stamps: the same Scott Schofield: an empty space. Michael Stamps: that w would Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: appear Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: when Steven Miller: some Michael Stamps: you put a separate button Steven Miller: some Michael Stamps: push Steven Miller: old Michael Stamps: a separate Steven Miller: televisions Michael Stamps: button. Steven Miller: uh you have to uh click on uh a special button, uh then you go to a a next level, you can push two buttons. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but you don't Scott Schofield: Yep. Michael Stamps: underst uh you don't Scott Schofield: True. Michael Stamps: understand my point. I think Steven Miller: You want Michael Stamps: it's exact the same thing Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: when Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: y Steven Miller: some television don't support it. Michael Stamps: No, but Justin Thomas: But Michael Stamps: then Justin Thomas: the ex Michael Stamps: they would a would also support that button, because it's the same thing. Listen, with that that's that special but button you're talking about, eh? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in on your screen and a dash, which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it. When you don't have that separate button, and you push y one, it's exactly the same thing. Do y you the remote control gives that same signal Scott Schofield: No, s Michael Stamps: as Scott Schofield: some Steven Miller: No, Michael Stamps: it would Steven Miller: a remote Michael Stamps: give Steven Miller: can Michael Stamps: when Scott Schofield: some Michael Stamps: you only Scott Schofield: televisions Michael Stamps: had Scott Schofield: need the input first Michael Stamps: Yeah. Scott Schofield: uh Steven Miller: Yes, so Scott Schofield: and Steven Miller: they Michael Stamps: But Steven Miller: need Michael Stamps: you Scott Schofield: and Michael Stamps: give Scott Schofield: you c Michael Stamps: the input. Steven Miller: no, they Michael Stamps: You Steven Miller: need Michael Stamps: push the one. That's the same thing as the button Scott Schofield: No, that's Michael Stamps: with Scott Schofield: not Michael Stamps: the one Scott Schofield: true. Michael Stamps: and it Scott Schofield: It's Michael Stamps: yes it Scott Schofield: simply Michael Stamps: it is. Scott Schofield: not Michael Stamps: Think Scott Schofield: true. Michael Stamps: about it. Scott Schofield: It's simply Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: No, Scott Schofield: not Steven Miller: but Scott Schofield: true. Justin Thomas: You Scott Schofield: Uh Justin Thomas: uh you can Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash, Michael Stamps: And it's the same Justin Thomas: and then Michael Stamps: thing Justin Thomas: wait Michael Stamps: what happens Justin Thomas: uh Michael Stamps: and Justin Thomas: two Michael Stamps: a g remote Justin Thomas: uh seconds Michael Stamps: control Justin Thomas: or something Michael Stamps: gives another signal after five seconds that is just one. Scott Schofield: No, remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds. Remote control is a stupid thing. If you push a button, it sends Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: it Michael Stamps: that's Scott Schofield: immediately Michael Stamps: true. Scott Schofield: to to the television. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but I m uh but it's I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the Steven Miller: Yeah, Michael Stamps: remote Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: control supplied, only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash, but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons, it still works. But okay, Scott Schofield: No, Michael Stamps: we Scott Schofield: definitely Michael Stamps: we'll impl Scott Schofield: not. Justin Thomas: We'll discuss Scott Schofield: Definitely Justin Thomas: them Scott Schofield: not. Justin Thomas: in the usability lab. Michael Stamps: No, we'll apply Justin Thomas: Uh eva Michael Stamps: them then Justin Thomas: evaluation. Michael Stamps: for now. Justin Thomas: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's Michael Stamps: Yeah, app Justin Thomas: it's Michael Stamps: just apply Justin Thomas: necessary. Michael Stamps: them next to the zero, the one and the Justin Thomas: Yeah? Michael Stamps: two. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for now, if we don't know for sure whether Justin Thomas: Okay. Steven Miller: And Scott Schofield: Yes. Steven Miller: the button for the SCART uh Justin Thomas: Ach. Steven Miller: audio video uh external Michael Stamps: Yeah but Steven Miller: input. Scott Schofield: Uh, you can access Michael Stamps: okay. Scott Schofield: that uh via zero, and Michael Stamps: What Scott Schofield: then Michael Stamps: I said Scott Schofield: minus, Michael Stamps: about Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: uh Scott Schofield: guess. Michael Stamps: the remote control sending Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: another signal, that that might Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: not be true, but I still think i it it all T_V_s in some ways support it, I don't know. Steven Miller: No, no. Michael Stamps: I think it's more c is m maybe we don't uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works, but I think there's more to in than wha Steven Miller: Uh, Michael Stamps: than Steven Miller: remote Michael Stamps: what you Steven Miller: control Michael Stamps: just said. Steven Miller: sends one signal at one button uh press. Michael Stamps: I do think that uh m Steven Miller: Uh, Michael Stamps: T_V_s Steven Miller: some Michael Stamps: support mur multiple kind of remote Steven Miller: N Michael Stamps: controls. Steven Miller: some televisions Michael Stamps: M Steven Miller: when when you want to go further than uh ten Michael Stamps: Th won't work wi Steven Miller: No, Michael Stamps: with Steven Miller: you Michael Stamps: uh Steven Miller: have to you have to Michael Stamps: to Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: have that Steven Miller: give Michael Stamps: special Steven Miller: the television Michael Stamps: button. Steven Miller: uh two or more signals. When you uh press one button, you give one signal. And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher. But Scott Schofield: Yep. Michael Stamps: Okay, well we'll see. Steven Miller: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals, it could work, but Just a basic idea of of of the most uh most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the Scott Schofield: Okay. Steven Miller: remote. Scott Schofield: I kinda miss the docking station. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: Yes. It's here on the Justin Thomas: Well it yeah, uh there's nothing Steven Miller: We came Justin Thomas: I Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: think it's pretty basic, the the there's Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: no fu there's Scott Schofield: No Justin Thomas: one Scott Schofield: nothing Justin Thomas: there's one Scott Schofield: really Justin Thomas: button, Scott Schofield: trendy about it. Justin Thomas: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one Steven Miller: But Justin Thomas: button Steven Miller: maybe we can Scott Schofield: The Justin Thomas: when Scott Schofield: button. Justin Thomas: you want to find Steven Miller: maybe Justin Thomas: it. Steven Miller: we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell, because Real Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls. Scott Schofield: Yep. Steven Miller: So maybe we can uh use the docking station, for example, uh M_P_ three players or or uh uh hearing devices. Scott Schofield: I think that's very difficult, because of different shapes of uh Steven Miller: Yes, but Scott Schofield: uh Steven Miller: when Scott Schofield: devices. Steven Miller: you put that same volt voltages on it, you can put uh when Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: the Scott Schofield: of course. Steven Miller: when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it, when Scott Schofield: Mm-hmm. Steven Miller: it's o the same as the other products, you can put it all on the same uh Scott Schofield: Well it it got it it has got to fit into the shape, of course. Steven Miller: Yes, but we can make Scott Schofield: The technology and the voltage can be the same. That's uh that's true. But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this, Steven Miller: No, we Scott Schofield: then Steven Miller: can Scott Schofield: they Steven Miller: make Scott Schofield: all Steven Miller: uh make Scott Schofield: fit. Steven Miller: the most lowest part all the same. Scott Schofield: Yeah, that's true, but uh Steven Miller: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out, we can place all on top of it. Scott Schofield: Yes, but Steven Miller: Just Scott Schofield: uh Steven Miller: have Scott Schofield: I Steven Miller: to Scott Schofield: I Steven Miller: be Scott Schofield: g Steven Miller: big enough for the Scott Schofield: Shouldn't Steven Miller: biggest Scott Schofield: it fall then? It isn't going to fall down? That's a bit uh yeah, I Steven Miller: No, Scott Schofield: think Steven Miller: when you make it large enough no it it will not. But then it's Scott Schofield: No, but Steven Miller: a little Scott Schofield: if Steven Miller: bit Scott Schofield: if like this, I'll I'll point it out, if you got uh Steven Miller: But Scott Schofield: a Steven Miller: it's just Scott Schofield: a a Steven Miller: an Scott Schofield: base Steven Miller: idea. Scott Schofield: a base like this, I won't draw it really. If you got a base which is uh Steven Miller: But Scott Schofield: as Steven Miller: it's flat Scott Schofield: big as this Steven Miller: it's flat as as this, so we can p make all the products Justin Thomas: You can. Steven Miller: as flat as this. Scott Schofield: Yeah Justin Thomas: But Scott Schofield: sure, Justin Thomas: i Scott Schofield: but Justin Thomas: i Scott Schofield: if Justin Thomas: i Scott Schofield: you Justin Thomas: it's Scott Schofield: got if Justin Thomas: backwards. Scott Schofield: you got a tiny player, it can Steven Miller: Yes, but when you make uh uh Justin Thomas: But Steven Miller: a bit Justin Thomas: it's it's Steven Miller: of Justin Thomas: backwards. Steven Miller: big Justin Thomas: It's leaning. It's leaning backwards, I think, in Scott Schofield: Yeah. Justin Thomas: the in the Scott Schofield: Uh, wha Justin Thomas: docking Scott Schofield: what Justin Thomas: station. Scott Schofield: you could do if you uh from the bottom oh, right, Justin Thomas: That's text. Scott Schofield: help. Michael Stamps: But Scott Schofield: Uh, you could make like a hole in it, you know, Steven Miller: Yes, Scott Schofield: of uh in in Steven Miller: little Scott Schofield: the Steven Miller: holer littler Uh, little Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: products go deeper Scott Schofield: That Steven Miller: in Scott Schofield: i Steven Miller: it. Scott Schofield: that is possible, Michael Stamps: Well let's Scott Schofield: yep. Michael Stamps: ha let's talk about the docking station later, because uh maybe Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: we have Scott Schofield: sure, Michael Stamps: we Scott Schofield: you're right. Michael Stamps: have to uh consider the docking station anyway, because we have some uh Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: cost Steven Miller: And Michael Stamps: issues Steven Miller: uh uh Michael Stamps: still Scott Schofield: Oh. Michael Stamps: to come. But we Steven Miller: the Michael Stamps: have Steven Miller: f Michael Stamps: to look Steven Miller: the Michael Stamps: n I Steven Miller: look Michael Stamps: don't Steven Miller: and Michael Stamps: know. Steven Miller: feel would be great on this uh remote control, Scott Schofield: I don't Steven Miller: because Scott Schofield: like the colours. Steven Miller: uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in Scott Schofield: Mm-hmm. Steven Miller: the in the smallest uh area. Michael Stamps: Yeah. Steven Miller: Then your uh left thumb of uh your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button, which is the most common used uh function, and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb. So it's Michael Stamps: Okay. Steven Miller: it's it's really good design. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: Yes. Scott Schofield: Alright. Michael Stamps: That's it? Steven Miller: Yes, uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber, and in the middle uh there is uh a hard Scott Schofield: The light. Steven Miller: uh a hard material, a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it. Scott Schofield: Okay. And other lights? Michael Stamps: I think added lights Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: are gonna Steven Miller: we can Michael Stamps: be a problem Steven Miller: make also Michael Stamps: too. Steven Miller: n neon lights on it, or or the buttons Scott Schofield: No, o on Steven Miller: that Scott Schofield: the on Steven Miller: can Scott Schofield: the Steven Miller: make Scott Schofield: front. Steven Miller: uh light Scott Schofield: Yeah, okay. Steven Miller: on it. Scott Schofield: Maybe the uh the logo. Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: lights? Steven Miller: But, it will also Scott Schofield: Yeah, why not? Steven Miller: uh uh use batteries, and do we Scott Schofield: Of Steven Miller: want Scott Schofield: course. Steven Miller: to Michael Stamps: Okay. Justin Thomas: Mm. Michael Stamps: For now, uh this is uh is good enough. Scott Schofield: Okay. Michael Stamps: Yeah, what was uh on the Steven Miller: The all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh Michael Stamps: Okay, but in the oh yeah, the colour, one colour for the rubber, isn't Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: it? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons. And Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: they're be Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: a Scott Schofield: Uh, Michael Stamps: they'll Scott Schofield: in Michael Stamps: be Scott Schofield: the same Michael Stamps: in the same Scott Schofield: colour Michael Stamps: colour Scott Schofield: as the Michael Stamps: as Scott Schofield: side. Michael Stamps: the rubber on the side. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Scott Schofield: Yeah, I think Michael Stamps: Okay. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Scott Schofield: I think Michael Stamps: And Scott Schofield: that'll be Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: good. Michael Stamps: think we Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: should use a a darker colour for the um plastic, and maybe some more m brighter and flashy Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: stuff Steven Miller: maybe we can use Scott Schofield: Yes. Steven Miller: on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights, so it will uh Michael Stamps: Yeah, we'll talk about the lights later. Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: 'Cause Scott Schofield: Yep. Michael Stamps: I also don yeah, it's depends on the costs and such. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: But uh, and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours, but may I dunno if that's important, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, for now this Scott Schofield: We Michael Stamps: is Scott Schofield: will. Michael Stamps: this is okay. Um, the next p y you gonna give a presentation too? Uh, I have to see the agenda. Scott Schofield: Well, Steven Miller: No. Scott Schofield: uh yeah, I I'm gonna do something right there, yeah. Michael Stamps: Detail design. Scott Schofield: We gotta do that on the right the most right-most screen, because Michael Stamps: Evaluation Scott Schofield: the leftmost Michael Stamps: criteria. Scott Schofield: Yep, that's Scott Schofield. Michael Stamps: Okay. Justin Thomas: Okay. Scott Schofield: Alright. I will be needing that image, so leave it please. Um Go away. Right, we're gonna evaluate that design according to a few points. Um, we g the four of us are going to do that um together. I wanna have a colour over here, come on. Right, the remote is not ugly, a bit weird sentence, but the positive things has to be on the left, so I said not ugly instead of ugly. Uh, what would you say, we we gotta give points to uh to all of these to evaluate uh that design, and please forget the drawing skills of these guys. Michael Stamps: Okay. Scott Schofield: The remote control is not ugly. How do you feel? Michael Stamps: Yeah, I think four maybe would be appropriate, because it's Yeah, maybe it really depends on taste. Uh, I mean it's kind of, our design. It's Scott Schofield: Yes. Michael Stamps: so Steven Miller: Yeah. Michael Stamps: if maybe a lot of people find it really ugly, you know, o other people find it really cool. Scott Schofield: Background colour. Michael Stamps: I don't know or uh I don't know how you Scott Schofield: How Steven Miller: I Michael Stamps: Casting. Scott Schofield: do Steven Miller: think Scott Schofield: you guys feel? Michael Stamps: Yeah. Steven Miller: I think the the fronts will give it a more uh uh uh less uglier uh side, because you can uh make Scott Schofield: The different Steven Miller: it in your Scott Schofield: designs. Steven Miller: own yes, you can Scott Schofield: Yes. Steven Miller: make it in your own uh Justin Thomas: Yeah. Scott Schofield: Okay. Steven Miller: more to your own personality or or house Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: style. Michael Stamps: but we d we didn't we're we're not planning to use fronts, I believe. Scott Schofield: No, not not fronts, but Michael Stamps: With Justin Thomas: No, Michael Stamps: a Scott Schofield: different Justin Thomas: not Michael Stamps: colour Justin Thomas: fronts. Scott Schofield: designs. Michael Stamps: a co a Justin Thomas: Different Michael Stamps: colours. Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: designs. Michael Stamps: Oh, okay. Scott Schofield: And Justin Thomas: Different Scott Schofield: that's still Justin Thomas: colours Scott Schofield: uh Justin Thomas: maybe, yeah. Scott Schofield: uh, yeah, is is uh is a little Michael Stamps: Okay, but Scott Schofield: personal touch, I guess. Michael Stamps: Oh, maybe Scott Schofield: What? Michael Stamps: we should do three or something that w you know, our Scott Schofield: Yeah, wha wha what would you uh Steven Miller: Or Scott Schofield: guys Steven Miller: forty. Michael Stamps: Yeah. Scott Schofield: uh think? Personally. Personally. Justin Thomas: We can make it a one. Scott Schofield: Yes, but what is it? Steven Miller: I think two or three. Justin Thomas: Mm yeah. Scott Schofield: Guido? Justin Thomas: I agree. Scott Schofield: Two or three. Justin Thomas: Um, Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: I Scott Schofield: was Justin Thomas: uh I go for the positive. So I go for two. Scott Schofield: I was thinking about three, so I guess Michael Stamps: Uh, I was thinking about four, so I think three is uh Scott Schofield: three Justin Thomas: Okay, Scott Schofield: is Justin Thomas: three. Scott Schofield: uh a bit uh oh, what am I doing? I'll mark it. The remote control's uh uh that n makes uh zapping easy. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: Yeah well, let that Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: let's make that Justin Thomas: Two. Michael Stamps: a one. Scott Schofield: Yeah? Justin Thomas: One. One. Scott Schofield: Antek, Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: you agree? Justin Thomas: Okay yeah, I'll I'll Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: agree. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: That's one thing for Scott Schofield: You're Justin Thomas: I'm Michael Stamps: sure. Scott Schofield: not Justin Thomas: the I'm Scott Schofield: Antek. Justin Thomas: the usability, so Scott Schofield: totally agree. The remote control the remote control's relevant buttons are prominently visible. Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: Yeah, two or Justin Thomas: The Michael Stamps: a one, I guess. It's something we really put work into. Scott Schofield: Yeah, I yeah. I Steven Miller: It's Scott Schofield: would Steven Miller: all Scott Schofield: say Steven Miller: about Scott Schofield: a one Steven Miller: the buttons. Scott Schofield: because uh every button is uh uh relevant. And our oh yeah, it's a b yeah. Yeah? Alright. That's a one? You agree? Michael Stamps: Yeah. Scott Schofield: The remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons. I think we Michael Stamps: But Scott Schofield: totally Justin Thomas: Well Scott Schofield: succeeded there. Michael Stamps: Well Scott Schofield: Oh Michael Stamps: maybe a two, because of the menu button Justin Thomas: Yeah, well Michael Stamps: or Justin Thomas: menu Michael Stamps: something. Scott Schofield: Yeah, that's Justin Thomas: Yeah, Scott Schofield: true. Justin Thomas: maybe. Michael Stamps: And Scott Schofield: That's Steven Miller: Also, Michael Stamps: telete Scott Schofield: true. Steven Miller: the the the buttons of the one, the two, the Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: the digits, Michael Stamps: we don't know if the uh they're necessary. Steven Miller: o Scott Schofield: the the yeah, m Steven Miller: they're Scott Schofield: well, Steven Miller: used Scott Schofield: you Steven Miller: uh Scott Schofield: d Steven Miller: uh Scott Schofield: you've got a point. Michael Stamps: I think a two. Justin Thomas: Yeah, true. Steven Miller: Can yes, Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: three, Justin Thomas: I Steven Miller: two. Michael Stamps: Came Justin Thomas: agree. Michael Stamps: a long way, Scott Schofield: Two Michael Stamps: but Scott Schofield: or three? Michael Stamps: not we didn't not uh Justin Thomas: Mm two. Scott Schofield: Two? Steven Miller: But Scott Schofield: Antek. Steven Miller: you can't make a remote control without them, Justin Thomas: Because Steven Miller: because Justin Thomas: we got Scott Schofield: Nay that that that's true, that's true. They're definitely needed. Michael Stamps: No, w Scott Schofield: So Michael Stamps: w it can also always be more simplistic, Scott Schofield: we put Michael Stamps: but Scott Schofield: it on a Michael Stamps: two Scott Schofield: two? Michael Stamps: is yeah. Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: The remote control has got a really trendy look. Steven Miller: Yes. A one. Scott Schofield: Maarten. Michael Stamps: Yeah, uh Justin Thomas: Well. Michael Stamps: a t I think a two. Yeah yeah, y i it's hard to say from this picture. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: We we've tried to make it uh the the best trendy Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: look uh ever. Scott Schofield: Ever, yeah. Guido. Michael Stamps: But Justin Thomas: Uh, Michael Stamps: I do Justin Thomas: I will Michael Stamps: think Justin Thomas: I Michael Stamps: it's Justin Thomas: will Michael Stamps: more Justin Thomas: make it a three, because uh yeah. I Michael Stamps: But I Justin Thomas: I Michael Stamps: do Justin Thomas: th Michael Stamps: think that it's more trendy than beautiful. Scott Schofield: Yeah, uh Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: I agree. I agree. Michael Stamps: So so I think Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: maybe it has Justin Thomas: True, Michael Stamps: to score Justin Thomas: yeah. Michael Stamps: higher uh on this Scott Schofield: I was Michael Stamps: than Scott Schofield: planning Michael Stamps: on the Scott Schofield: to give it a two, uh where I give the not ugly uh Michael Stamps: A th a three. Scott Schofield: oh, yeah, that's true. You agree on the two? Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: I i uh when you compare to the Scott Schofield: Great. Remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded Michael Stamps: Uh uh Scott Schofield: buttons. Michael Stamps: what's the difference Scott Schofield: Uh, I Michael Stamps: with Scott Schofield: copied that one. Well, uh forget that. Michael Stamps: Okay. Scott Schofield: Um Go away. Remote control has got innovative technology implanted. Justin Thomas: No. Steven Miller: No. Michael Stamps: No. Justin Thomas: We're not Steven Miller: No, Justin Thomas: well, maybe the Steven Miller: not Justin Thomas: the Steven Miller: L_C_D_, Justin Thomas: the on the side. Steven Miller: so. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but we uh you mean the rubber stuff? Scott Schofield: Yeah, and the light. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Justin Thomas: And the Michael Stamps: but Justin Thomas: light Michael Stamps: we have Justin Thomas: maybe. Michael Stamps: t Steven Miller: But Michael Stamps: we Steven Miller: that Michael Stamps: have Steven Miller: that's Michael Stamps: to talk Steven Miller: not Michael Stamps: about Steven Miller: innovative. Michael Stamps: the lights Justin Thomas: But Michael Stamps: uh. And Scott Schofield: Well, Michael Stamps: I don't Steven Miller: Lights Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: u Scott Schofield: g Michael Stamps: also it's also really not innovative, Steven Miller: lights are Michael Stamps: it's more Scott Schofield: It's not seven? Michael Stamps: No, six. Justin Thomas: Well, six. Michael Stamps: Or seven maybe, yeah. Justin Thomas: No, six. Steven Miller: Six. Michael Stamps: Or Scott Schofield: Why Michael Stamps: six. Scott Schofield: uh why not Justin Thomas: Six. Scott Schofield: a seven? Michael Stamps: Yeah, mine is seven. Steven Miller: Because we've tried to make it a little bit innovative, Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: but it but Scott Schofield: How? Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: Uh it's uh depends on the on the Steven Miller: With Michael Stamps: maybe Steven Miller: the lights it it's it's kind of future Michael Stamps: No, Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: you Michael Stamps: think Scott Schofield: think Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: the lights Michael Stamps: think Scott Schofield: are Michael Stamps: actually Scott Schofield: innovative? Michael Stamps: it's a seven maybe, but there's nothing innovative about it. Scott Schofield: Well, it's n true. Uh, I agree, m but Steven Miller: But still you can retrieve it when it's when it's gone, with the Justin Thomas: Innovative in Steven Miller: with Justin Thomas: generally Scott Schofield: I'll Justin Thomas: or just Scott Schofield: Yeah, you Justin Thomas: f Scott Schofield: you didn't draw the Justin Thomas: original Scott Schofield: docking station. Justin Thomas: for Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: N no Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: The docking Michael Stamps: no, Scott Schofield: it Michael Stamps: t. Scott Schofield: it's Steven Miller: station Justin Thomas: A docking Steven Miller: is a Justin Thomas: station Steven Miller: is a little Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: think Steven Miller: bit Michael Stamps: I Justin Thomas: is Michael Stamps: mean Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: the Justin Thomas: innova Steven Miller: innovative. Scott Schofield: think Michael Stamps: dock station, Scott Schofield: with its Michael Stamps: but but uh, I think Steven Miller: It's Michael Stamps: the Steven Miller: a part of the remote. Scott Schofield: I think Michael Stamps: the docking Scott Schofield: more Michael Stamps: station, Scott Schofield: m Michael Stamps: it's gonna be a kind of a problem. Justin Thomas: Okay. Steven Miller: And with the speaker Michael Stamps: But Scott Schofield: Uh that Steven Miller: on the Scott Schofield: that's Steven Miller: there's Scott Schofield: n Steven Miller: also a Michael Stamps: Well, Steven Miller: speaker. Michael Stamps: let's leave it open for uh for us later to see what, because we have to reevaluate anyway. Well I i Steven Miller: Okay. Michael Stamps: yeah. No? Scott Schofield: No uh, well, the agenda says evaluate now, so I think we Michael Stamps: Okay, for now it's a six Scott Schofield: It's Michael Stamps: or a seven Scott Schofield: it's a six. Michael Stamps: uh, sev six Justin Thomas: Six. Michael Stamps: maybe, because Steven Miller: But the retrieval Scott Schofield: That m Steven Miller: or Scott Schofield: f Steven Miller: the Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: for the retrieval Michael Stamps: but I don't Scott Schofield: function. Michael Stamps: I don't know if it's very inno yeah. Scott Schofield: Yeah. I think that's very innovative for a Steven Miller: Yes, Scott Schofield: remote Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: control. Michael Stamps: v Steven Miller: how would you innovate a remote control more? Michael Stamps: Yeah, more through uh like function T_V_ functionalities Steven Miller: To put it on your Michael Stamps: and Steven Miller: head. Michael Stamps: no no, you know what I mean. You have must be innovative technology for remote controls, but more Scott Schofield: Yeah Michael Stamps: in Scott Schofield: sure, Michael Stamps: how Scott Schofield: but Michael Stamps: you control stuff, not in how you find your yeah. Yeah, Scott Schofield: But I Michael Stamps: it's Scott Schofield: d I definitely don't think Michael Stamps: that's Scott Schofield: it's Michael Stamps: that's Scott Schofield: a five, Michael Stamps: think Scott Schofield: but Michael Stamps: about it la later on and uh Scott Schofield: Remote control is easy to use. Michael Stamps: Yeah, as a a Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: one or a two ma Justin Thomas: Yeah, Michael Stamps: uh Justin Thomas: a Michael Stamps: at least. Justin Thomas: two. Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: I think a two. Yeah? Michael Stamps: Yeah, it's good. Justin Thomas: More Scott Schofield: Come Justin Thomas: two. Scott Schofield: on. The remote control hasn't got uh. Michael Stamps: No, I would have seen that one before. Oh, you skipped one uh Scott Schofield: I've just filled uh Michael Stamps: Uh, here. Scott Schofield: Go away. Steven Miller: You like the buttons. Scott Schofield: I found twelve questions so much, but it still is Michael Stamps: Remote Scott Schofield: ten. Michael Stamps: control will be bought by Scott Schofield: It will be bought by people under the age of forty. Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: Yeah. Justin Thomas: Yes. Michael Stamps: Definitely. Steven Miller: In Michael Stamps: Well Steven Miller: in and comparing with uh people of th of Scott Schofield: No Steven Miller: the age Scott Schofield: no no. Steven Miller: above? Michael Stamps: Uh, Scott Schofield: No, Michael Stamps: just Scott Schofield: just Michael Stamps: in general. Scott Schofield: if they if they buy it. Michael Stamps: Yeah, a two. Steven Miller: We don't know. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: But Michael Stamps: but Scott Schofield: Yeah, what Michael Stamps: I think Scott Schofield: do you think? Michael Stamps: I Justin Thomas: Yeah, Michael Stamps: think two. Justin Thomas: I think two, yeah. I agree. Scott Schofield: Antek? Justin Thomas: Two. Steven Miller: Yes, two, but only in c when you compare it with with elderly. Michael Stamps: Uh, that Scott Schofield: No, Michael Stamps: is Scott Schofield: that's Michael Stamps: not the Scott Schofield: no Michael Stamps: question. Scott Schofield: comparison. Michael Stamps: It's just w it will be bought by people under forty. Yeah, you can yeah, you can be very Scott Schofield: And I don't Michael Stamps: picky about Scott Schofield: mean Steven Miller: This Michael Stamps: it. Steven Miller: is Scott Schofield: two Steven Miller: just Scott Schofield: people. Steven Miller: guessing. Michael Stamps: Ah yeah, just make it we'll make Steven Miller: Make Scott Schofield: W Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: a Scott Schofield: w Steven Miller: a Michael Stamps: two. Steven Miller: two. When it succeeds, uh it can get a two, mu Scott Schofield: Right, the rem The remote control has Michael Stamps: Oh Scott Schofield: recognisable Michael Stamps: no. Scott Schofield: corporate image, colour, Michael Stamps: Yeah. Scott Schofield: logo or slogan. Michael Stamps: Yeah, you have Justin Thomas: We don't Michael Stamps: make Justin Thomas: have Michael Stamps: an Justin Thomas: the slogan though. Michael Stamps: slogan is quite obvious. Scott Schofield: Oh, the slogan. Michael Stamps: Oh the oh Scott Schofield: Can Michael Stamps: sorry, Scott Schofield: we see the slogan? Michael Stamps: no, not not the slogan. Justin Thomas: The logo. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: A logo. Michael Stamps: you can put that on the side if if we would like Justin Thomas: Underneath Michael Stamps: to. Steven Miller: Yes, Justin Thomas: it Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: or something. Steven Miller: encrypted uh with Michael Stamps: Yeah, and I will Scott Schofield: Are Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: we Michael Stamps: th Scott Schofield: gonna do that? Michael Stamps: still think it's gonna be a two Justin Thomas: A Michael Stamps: or Justin Thomas: three. Michael Stamps: a three. Maybe Justin Thomas: Three. Michael Stamps: a three this time. Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: a three. Scott Schofield: Three? I agree. Because of the slogan Michael Stamps: And Scott Schofield: Remote Michael Stamps: uh Scott Schofield: control's got a basic design intended uh for Michael Stamps: Uh, Scott Schofield: novice Michael Stamps: it's a one Scott Schofield: users. Michael Stamps: or a two. Justin Thomas: Yeah, two. Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: Two? Michael Stamps: Yeah, Justin Thomas: Two. Michael Stamps: make it a two. Scott Schofield: Two. Alright. We gotta add up the scores now to see our total average. Four, five, seven, nine. Forget that. Fifteen, seventeen, twenty one, twenty four, twenty six. Twenty six. It's a two point six. Michael Stamps: It's not that bad. Scott Schofield: Alright, we yeah. Michael Stamps: Yeah, and that's mostly the inno when we uh score higher on innovative technology, we would score two, Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: which is Scott Schofield: True. Michael Stamps: uh quite a great score. Okay. Uh, this is was uh the evaluation? Scott Schofield: This was my evaluation. Michael Stamps: Because I Scott Schofield: So Michael Stamps: I still think that the most important part Scott Schofield: We did Michael Stamps: of this Scott Schofield: a pretty Michael Stamps: meeting Scott Schofield: nice Michael Stamps: still has Scott Schofield: job until now. Michael Stamps: Yeah. Scott Schofield: Um, is this your Steven Miller: Is there something Scott Schofield: Whatever. Steven Miller: after this uh meeting? Scott Schofield: Well, I think Steven Miller: Or Scott Schofield: we gotta fill out Justin Thomas: No. Scott Schofield: another questionnaire. Steven Miller: Okay. Justin Thomas: Okay, yeah. Michael Stamps: Still opened or uh Yeah. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: Okay, finance. Because um Justin Thomas: Shoot. Michael Stamps: I received Scott Schofield: A five. Michael Stamps: uh a spreadsheet. Scott Schofield: A five. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but I uh actually don't need this presentation, I guess. Oh. Scott Schofield: Doesn't matter. Michael Stamps: I'm gonna open the spreadsheet and we're gonna work this out together, because I didn't really fin uh I have a. Didn't really finish it. Well, we uh We'll see. We'll stumble upon some problems. Scott Schofield: We probably will. Michael Stamps: I probably have already opened it here. try it again. First of all, the mm all the docking station and costs and such are not included in this list. But let's let's st start with beginning. We include one battery. I i uh I'll explain its Uh, the the components are listed over here. Uh, price is given. We um Scott Schofield: The amount, yeah. Michael Stamps: yeah, we we uh indicate the amount of components of the specif specific component, how much we need of them. And then uh, we'll uh calcula Don't watch the number yet. I don't know if it's filled in properly. Okay, we need one battery. One battery. I think Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: one battery is enough. We don't need kinetic, solar cells, hand dynamo. A s okay, this this is a p first problem. Uh, I think we should know how many simple chips, regular Steven Miller: Uh it's Michael Stamps: chips Steven Miller: it's one one chip, but but you have to choose one from it. Michael Stamps: Okay. But Steven Miller: The simple chip is e enough I I think, but with Scott Schofield: I Steven Miller: the Scott Schofield: don't Steven Miller: lights Scott Schofield: know Steven Miller: with the lights and the retrieval, Michael Stamps: Where Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: did Steven Miller: can Michael Stamps: we Steven Miller: be Michael Stamps: find Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: this information? Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: Was Scott Schofield: haven't Michael Stamps: it Scott Schofield: got an idea on on which we need to use, really. Steven Miller: No, uh Michael Stamps: I think Justin Thomas: No. Steven Miller: I Michael Stamps: it was uh your job in the first uh meet Uh, f your first presentation to make this clear, but Steven Miller: Yes, Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: then you Steven Miller: my Michael Stamps: had some Steven Miller: my Michael Stamps: t Steven Miller: my Michael Stamps: time problems. Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: But do you th you do you know what chip we need? Steven Miller: The the email I got said uh simple chip, but when we put in the speaker and the retriever uh device, Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: it will uh cost a a bit more, like I think the advanced chip maybe. Scott Schofield: And how do you know? I mean, you got that email. Steven Miller: Bec Scott Schofield: Did it point out Michael Stamps: Maybe you can Scott Schofield: what Steven Miller: No, Michael Stamps: uh look Scott Schofield: to Steven Miller: the Scott Schofield: use Michael Stamps: it up Scott Schofield: them Michael Stamps: right Scott Schofield: for? Michael Stamps: now. Steven Miller: they didn't know about a retriever or a Michael Stamps: Okay, but Steven Miller: speaker Michael Stamps: okay. Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: When we Steven Miller: in Michael Stamps: don't Steven Miller: it. Michael Stamps: when we leave the uh retriever and such aside, what Steven Miller: Then it's a simple chip. Michael Stamps: then it would be a simple chip. And with the retriever, it would be an advanced chip. Steven Miller: Yes, Scott Schofield: Alright, Steven Miller: I Scott Schofield: well, Steven Miller: I I s I Scott Schofield: point out the advanced chip for now, I guess. Michael Stamps: Okay. Steven Miller: That will be enough Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: for Michael Stamps: but Steven Miller: future Michael Stamps: it will Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: recommendations. Michael Stamps: will it will be cause a lot of problems. The sample sensor sample speaker. What is it m is that the speaker we were t I don't know what it is. Steven Miller: I don't know it uh either. Scott Schofield: I don't know. Michael Stamps: Okay, we went for the double-curved case Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: made out of plastic and rubber. And with a special colour. I guess that's what we were Justin Thomas: Well, special colour. Michael Stamps: Yeah, I don't know about the special colour, Steven Miller: Otherwise, Michael Stamps: but Scott Schofield: I Steven Miller: you Scott Schofield: don't Justin Thomas: I Steven Miller: get Justin Thomas: don't Scott Schofield: know Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: if Michael Stamps: think Scott Schofield: it's Steven Miller: uh Scott Schofield: very special. Michael Stamps: w Steven Miller: a Michael Stamps: uh Steven Miller: standard uh plastic colour. Michael Stamps: Yeah, I think we uh Justin Thomas: Mm Michael Stamps: we have Justin Thomas: okay. Michael Stamps: special Steven Miller: Standard Michael Stamps: colours. Steven Miller: rubber. Scott Schofield: Alright, that's okay. Michael Stamps: Okay, Steven Miller: St Michael Stamps: then the push-button, I was just counting them. Uh, I think you have to indicate the amount of push-buttons we want to use, isn't it? Justin Thomas: Whoa, it's Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: a little Michael Stamps: Well that's bit of a problem, because Justin Thomas: That's huge. Michael Stamps: I re but I really don't understand that, because I can imagine a remote control with far more push-buttons, and it wouldn't be possible according to this Justin Thomas: No. Michael Stamps: uh Justin Thomas: We have Michael Stamps: sheet. Justin Thomas: the simplest Scott Schofield: No. Justin Thomas: buttons. Steven Miller: No, it's only Michael Stamps: Yeah. Steven Miller: uh when you use push-buttons, it will cost that much. Scott Schofield: I don't think so, Steven Miller: If you Scott Schofield: because Steven Miller: use a Scott Schofield: it Steven Miller: scroll-wheel Michael Stamps: Ah. Scott Schofield: says amount. Michael Stamps: Yeah, it Scott Schofield: The Michael Stamps: wouldn't Scott Schofield: the the yellow row is the amount Michael Stamps: Fill Scott Schofield: of Michael Stamps: in the number of components you plan to use in the and the total cost I don't know. Steven Miller: Maybe Michael Stamps: I Steven Miller: it's the kind of push-buttons. You can have f four kind of push-buttons. Rubber. Justin Thomas: Uh, one til Steven Miller: You Justin Thomas: nine. Steven Miller: can have Justin Thomas: Is that Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: one or is that nine Michael Stamps: And I count them Justin Thomas: buttons? Michael Stamps: like this. One two three uh four five six seven eight nine ten Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: eleven twelve and thirteen. Because Oh, this is oh, this is one, okay. Twelve, okay, then it would be eighteen, because uh, I uh rated them as uh um Scott Schofield: To Michael Stamps: as Scott Schofield: n Michael Stamps: uh Scott Schofield: that's Steven Miller: Different, Scott Schofield: total Michael Stamps: uh uh separate Scott Schofield: of four Michael Stamps: buttons. Scott Schofield: buttons. Steven Miller: yes. Michael Stamps: Yes. And Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: plus Scott Schofield: think Michael Stamps: these Scott Schofield: that Michael Stamps: two, f uh plus the mute button, and it's will be uh eighteen. Scott Schofield: Eighteen. One two three four five, si Steven Miller: Why is that so uh expensive. Michael Stamps: Yeah, I don't understand. Y I do I don't get the point, because it's would be s relatively so expensive, just these m small buttons. Justin Thomas: Is it cents, the the the fifty cents Scott Schofield: Fifty cents Justin Thomas: a button? Scott Schofield: for one single stupid button. Steven Miller: So, whe Justin Thomas: No Steven Miller: when Justin Thomas: way. Steven Miller: you so Michael Stamps: Well, Steven Miller: then Michael Stamps: okay, well Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: well let's make it just one. Steven Miller: It's eighty percent of the price of the of Michael Stamps: Here, Steven Miller: the Michael Stamps: now Steven Miller: amount Michael Stamps: it's Steven Miller: of Michael Stamps: now it's already Scott Schofield: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Michael Stamps: s shall we just give our own interpretation to, because else we would really have a problem. It would be impossible to make Scott Schofield: I can't Michael Stamps: it Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: It's Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: way Scott Schofield: I couldn't understand it if it was fifty cents per uh uh per button. Steven Miller: When you have the Scott Schofield: Really. Steven Miller: same amount of button, you have to put in wi in your carton. Board. Michael Stamps: And and less Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: And then throw Michael Stamps: buttons Scott Schofield: yeah, Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: than this isn't possible. This is Justin Thomas: No, Michael Stamps: the most Justin Thomas: no Michael Stamps: simple Justin Thomas: no. Michael Stamps: yeah, it is possible, but Steven Miller: But Michael Stamps: I've Steven Miller: whe Michael Stamps: never seen one before. Steven Miller: I've seen Scott Schofield: No, Steven Miller: one Scott Schofield: really. Steven Miller: uh one remote control Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: with Michael Stamps: without Steven Miller: only the Michael Stamps: the numbers. Steven Miller: pu yeah, only Michael Stamps: That's Steven Miller: with Michael Stamps: possible. Steven Miller: uh page up, page down Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: and Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: volume, Michael Stamps: we could Justin Thomas: uh Michael Stamps: skip Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: the numbers. Scott Schofield: Yeah, but Steven Miller: but Scott Schofield: I d I wouldn't want to own that. Really. Justin Thomas: That's still Steven Miller: Uh, it's it's Justin Thomas: four. Steven Miller: still for little children. They can handle that remote Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: control, but Michael Stamps: Then uh, Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: teletext Steven Miller: it isn't fo Michael Stamps: would also be im impossible. Steven Miller: Yes, it's for it's li uh it's Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: just for Justin Thomas: that's Steven Miller: a Justin Thomas: no Steven Miller: little Michael Stamps: Okay, Justin Thomas: option, Michael Stamps: we'll Justin Thomas: that's Michael Stamps: we'll Justin Thomas: no Michael Stamps: just Justin Thomas: option. Michael Stamps: okay. But then still, when we there's no room for a docking station or something. Tha w Le let's see th we have uh oh yeah, button supplements. We'll give the buttons special colour. We'll give them a special form. Uh, I think we should mark the special form thing, because it this will be some special forms incorporated in these big buttons, I guess. Justin Thomas: A special colour, why a special colour? Michael Stamps: Because the buttons will be uh d will be matching colour Justin Thomas: But Michael Stamps: between Justin Thomas: wha what Michael Stamps: the buttons Justin Thomas: s what Michael Stamps: and the Justin Thomas: special? Michael Stamps: rubber surroundings. Steven Miller: Otherwise, Michael Stamps: I think that's Justin Thomas: Okay, Steven Miller: it Michael Stamps: the what Justin Thomas: yeah. Michael Stamps: they mean by a special colour. Steven Miller: Otherwise Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: Uh, Scott Schofield: don't think Justin Thomas: yeah. Steven Miller: it Scott Schofield: the special Michael Stamps: I Steven Miller: would Michael Stamps: think Steven Miller: be Scott Schofield: form Michael Stamps: all Steven Miller: the Michael Stamps: the Scott Schofield: is Michael Stamps: special Scott Schofield: really true. Michael Stamps: colour things have to be marked over here, because that's what we were planning to do, making it Steven Miller: Special form also, it says. Michael Stamps: Yeah, special Scott Schofield: Is it? Michael Stamps: material r also, because i has rubber. And the buttons have to be rubber. Steven Miller: What is the normal material? Scott Schofield: Yeah, Justin Thomas: Plastic. Scott Schofield: I dunno. Steven Miller: Sh Justin Thomas: Plastic, Steven Miller: yeah. Justin Thomas: I think. Steven Miller: Classic? Justin Thomas: Plastic. Scott Schofield: Plastic. Steven Miller: Oh, plastic. Michael Stamps: 'Kay, but the problem now is that the There's no such thing as a docking station in this list, but we can all imagine that it would be impossible to Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: make a docking station for thirty cents. Steven Miller: But we can uh sell the remote control and uh sell the docking station Michael Stamps: Separately. Justin Thomas: Se Steven Miller: yes. Justin Thomas: no no Steven Miller: And Justin Thomas: no. Steven Miller: and but we don't have to tell it, but what we can say of can um almost make it impossible to buy a remote control without the docking station. Michael Stamps: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I do like the idea, but we yeah. It uh but it then the docking station isn't relevant for this project anymore, but we can Scott Schofield: No. Steven Miller: No, but you Michael Stamps: but then Steven Miller: otherwise you can't Michael Stamps: you Steven Miller: retrieve Michael Stamps: still have to use Steven Miller: it. Michael Stamps: we have to find out what chip we u need. Scott Schofield: Yeah, I really don't get it. I mean if it's a simple chip, then Michael Stamps: I think Scott Schofield: we Michael Stamps: we Scott Schofield: suddenly Michael Stamps: can agree Scott Schofield: got Michael Stamps: on this. Scott Schofield: two Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: Euros and Michael Stamps: I Scott Schofield: thirty Michael Stamps: think Scott Schofield: cents. Michael Stamps: the special colour thing has to be uh marked. 'Cause I think we Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: uh Scott Schofield: yep. Michael Stamps: Yeah, I think that's what what what they uh Steven Miller: But for Michael Stamps: mean Steven Miller: two Euros Scott Schofield: I think so, Steven Miller: and Scott Schofield: too. Steven Miller: thirty cents, we uh we don't get a docking station. Scott Schofield: Oh, I don't know. Michael Stamps: But can we find out uh about uh this chips? Because when we don't need a d a docking station, then probably we also have only we also need a simple chip. Justin Thomas: And then we can get a docking Michael Stamps: And maybe Justin Thomas: station. Michael Stamps: then we can do something extra. Steven Miller: For Michael Stamps: Oh, n uh oh, still oh, it's gonna get more expensive with. Two. Then we have some money left. We can put then Steven Miller: For two Euros. Michael Stamps: We can put a scroll-wheel on it or something. Yeah, well who knows. Scott Schofield: Uh why? I Michael Stamps: Or Scott Schofield: mean Michael Stamps: a little Scott Schofield: i Michael Stamps: bit Scott Schofield: i if Michael Stamps: of tin Scott Schofield: you Michael Stamps: titanium. Scott Schofield: if it would cost two Euros, that had a total a total thing, it would be nice too, I mean uh we're not gonna add uh Justin Thomas: But what Scott Schofield: a trip Justin Thomas: what Scott Schofield: to Justin Thomas: can Scott Schofield: Hawaii Justin Thomas: we do Scott Schofield: to Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: it. Michael Stamps: or we can ki do the kinetic cells. That's also maybe an idea. Justin Thomas: But uh what can we do with the simple chip and what's difference Michael Stamps: Yeah that's Justin Thomas: with Michael Stamps: what Justin Thomas: a Michael Stamps: then Justin Thomas: regular Michael Stamps: what he has Justin Thomas: chip Michael Stamps: to find Justin Thomas: and a advanced Michael Stamps: out. Maybe you can Justin Thomas: chip? Michael Stamps: uh find it in your email right now, then we know Justin Thomas: If if Michael Stamps: then we Justin Thomas: i Michael Stamps: exactly know what it will cost us. Maybe is that that's nice to know. Justin Thomas: Regular chip and because we don't have uh special functions to use uh Michael Stamps: Yeah, bu bu but Justin Thomas: in advanced Michael Stamps: when we Justin Thomas: chip, for example. Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: yeah, Scott Schofield: like the hand dynamo part. Michael Stamps: but when we skip when we um when we don't use the do we're not gonna make the docking station, then we still yeah, we need something else maybe to make it kind of special, because that was our our special feature. Scott Schofield: We can make a plain Justin Thomas: Yeah. Scott Schofield: docking station for two Euros. Justin Thomas: We'll Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: go Scott Schofield: mean Justin Thomas: back uh Michael Stamps: Yeah, okay, Justin Thomas: tomorrow. Michael Stamps: you can also do that, but maybe Scott Schofield: Wi wi without recharge Michael Stamps: It still is a special remote control cons uh you know, wi its form is special Scott Schofield: Yeah, but but Michael Stamps: and Scott Schofield: we can make a docking Michael Stamps: material. Scott Schofield: station for two Euros uh if you don't put the recharge function in it. I mean, it has a shape. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but Scott Schofield: Of Michael Stamps: for Scott Schofield: course Michael Stamps: two Scott Schofield: it has Michael Stamps: Euros, Scott Schofield: a shape, but Michael Stamps: then Scott Schofield: i Michael Stamps: we have Scott Schofield: i Michael Stamps: still maybe we have to use the advanced chip, then two Euros isn't even possible. Scott Schofield: Why should that not be possible? Michael Stamps: Yeah, then because then we'd thirty cents left. Scott Schofield: No, for for the uh for the docking station if you do if you choose the simple chip. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, because maybe d uh yeah, we have to find Justin Thomas: That's Michael Stamps: out with Justin Thomas: the Michael Stamps: the Justin Thomas: question. Michael Stamps: simple chip. Justin Thomas: If we do i do we need an advanced chip, or Scott Schofield: Yes. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Justin Thomas: is Michael Stamps: and Justin Thomas: it Michael Stamps: w Justin Thomas: okay Michael Stamps: and and Justin Thomas: f Michael Stamps: we Steven Miller: It Michael Stamps: uh need Steven Miller: isn't Michael Stamps: f Steven Miller: in my Michael Stamps: and Steven Miller: information, Michael Stamps: what is this? Sample Steven Miller: so Michael Stamps: sensor Steven Miller: I don't know Michael Stamps: sample Steven Miller: it uh Michael Stamps: speaker. Steven Miller: either. It isn't in my information, I uh I I've got a schematic view of the remote control, but nothing about uh advanced chips or Michael Stamps: You can look at it for s presentation. S technical functions? Justin Thomas: No. Steven Miller: Uh I've got here Justin Thomas: No Steven Miller: in Justin Thomas: no, Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: they were uh mine, Steven Miller: I will Justin Thomas: yeah. Steven Miller: put Michael Stamps: Oh. Steven Miller: a I will put a page on it. When my mouse works again. Michael Stamps: Oh, oh oh. Hey. Oh. Steven Miller: My mouse is uh Scott Schofield: Dead. Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: Reanimate it. Steven Miller: Oh. Justin Thomas: Died. Steven Miller: Ah, I've got it. I will put uh my email on the the network. Scott Schofield: What the hell are these? Steven Miller: It's on it. Scott Schofield: Oh, whatever. Justin Thomas: Yeah, it's open. Michael Stamps: Mm. I don't think here Justin Thomas: It's circuit Michael Stamps: it's in Justin Thomas: board. Michael Stamps: here already. Justin Thomas: It's only just Michael Stamps: It's nothing about Justin Thomas: basics Michael Stamps: s yeah. Justin Thomas: for for Steven Miller: Yes. Justin Thomas: At the end circuit Scott Schofield: This isn't helpful. Justin Thomas: there is an infrared Michael Stamps: No. Justin Thomas: LED. Michael Stamps: But i in the presentation of yours, there was also something about different components. Which one was it? Justin Thomas: Components design. Michael Stamps: Functional requirements? Steven Miller: Um Scott Schofield: No, that was my presentation. Justin Thomas: Components design maybe. Steven Miller: Yes, Justin Thomas: N on Steven Miller: that Justin Thomas: top. Steven Miller: was mine. Michael Stamps: Ah. Ah yes, it was the second one. Steven Miller: But that was my second Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: It's Michael Stamps: it was Scott Schofield: already Michael Stamps: your second Scott Schofield: open. Michael Stamps: your first presentation. Scott Schofield: It's at the bottom. Justin Thomas: Working Michael Stamps: Sorry? Justin Thomas: design. Scott Schofield: It's uh at your task bar. Justin Thomas: Yeah, but it's the the other one. Scott Schofield: Oh. Steven Miller: Mm Michael Stamps: Uh, Justin Thomas: Was it Michael Stamps: this Justin Thomas: working Michael Stamps: is n this Scott Schofield: Sorry. Justin Thomas: design Michael Stamps: is not this Justin Thomas: or components design? Michael Stamps: n that's not the right one. I don't oh. Scott Schofield: Okay, sorry. Michael Stamps: No, this is the other one. Or maybe something is uh maybe there's something abo in in these Justin Thomas: Chip set. Steven Miller: But this is the same uh This is o only the possibilities. Michael Stamps: Here. Steven Miller: Yeah. We can use a simple, a regular, or advanced chip. Scott Schofield: Yeah, nice. Justin Thomas: The Scott Schofield: I it Justin Thomas: display Scott Schofield: doesn't say Justin Thomas: requires Scott Schofield: anything. Michael Stamps: You know Justin Thomas: an Michael Stamps: that Justin Thomas: advanced Michael Stamps: a push-button Justin Thomas: chip. Michael Stamps: requires a simple chip, but a scroll-wheel, it it Scott Schofield requires Steven Miller: Ah, okay. Michael Stamps: Okay, so we only Justin Thomas: Requires. Michael Stamps: need a simple chip. Steven Miller: With the light. Justin Thomas: Little lights. Yeah, but that that's just the same as the Michael Stamps: No no, that's Justin Thomas: the LED. Michael Stamps: just a simple chip. Scott Schofield: That's not needed. Michael Stamps: A scroll-wheel it s uh only states that a scroll-wheel requires a regular chip, and that a display requires an advanced chip. So, we don't Scott Schofield: A display Michael Stamps: need any of them. Scott Schofield: uh is, of course, uh for showing Steven Miller: L_C_D_. Scott Schofield: letters. For showing text. Justin Thomas: Yeah. Scott Schofield: I don't think that uh Justin Thomas: No. Scott Schofield: just a l a little light Justin Thomas: I think uh the uh normal uh simple chip will Scott Schofield: Yeah, Justin Thomas: be okay. Scott Schofield: I agree. Michael Stamps: And what's the sample sensor slash sample speaker? Steven Miller: Maybe you can say against the remote uh page uh Justin Thomas: Yeah. Steven Miller: f uh page up, page Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: down. Scott Schofield: I guess so too. Justin Thomas: Yeah, true. Scott Schofield: Next Justin Thomas: Well, that's not Scott Schofield: channel. Justin Thomas: too what we want. Scott Schofield: No. Well, we might want it, but Michael Stamps: Okay. Steven Miller: All in twelve Michael Stamps: Back Steven Miller: Euros. Michael Stamps: to the costs. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: Twelve Euros and fifty cents. Michael Stamps: So we're Justin Thomas: So, Michael Stamps: gonna Justin Thomas: simple Michael Stamps: use the simple Justin Thomas: chip is okay. Michael Stamps: chip. Scott Schofield: Great. Delete. Yeah. Steven Miller: And the lights. Where uh are the lights? Justin Thomas: lights, yeah, there's no Scott Schofield: Well, there're three, I guess. Justin Thomas: category. Michael Stamps: Nah, there is some money left to be spent. Justin Thomas: Can we do it wi within Scott Schofield: I think Justin Thomas: two Scott Schofield: we can make a docking Justin Thomas: two Euro? Scott Schofield: station. Michael Stamps: Okay, but what we have to think Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: about now is that is is it still a special remote control? But I mean it isn't it hasn't got any innovative technology, we aren't gonna apply any uh innovated innovative te technology anyway, I think. Justin Thomas: Mm-hmm. Michael Stamps: I don't I don't see any possibility to do so, because it would wouldn't fit our Justin Thomas: But it's Michael Stamps: defi Justin Thomas: original. Michael Stamps: design philosophy. But Scott Schofield: No, Michael Stamps: what Scott Schofield: that's Michael Stamps: w is there Scott Schofield: true. Michael Stamps: some extra maybe I think maybe the kinetic thing is something. Instead of the rechargeable the rechargeable thing was something to um know, so y so people wouldn't Scott Schofield: M Michael Stamps: have Scott Schofield: bu Michael Stamps: to worry about their batteries anymore. Maybe we if we put the kinetic Steven Miller: But Michael Stamps: thing Steven Miller: but Michael Stamps: in Steven Miller: sometimes Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: you put Michael Stamps: Yeah, Steven Miller: a Michael Stamps: you leave the p yeah, I know, but still I they will think about that. I mean if Steven Miller: Kinetics Michael Stamps: you u Steven Miller: aren't uh nowadays only used in watches and Michael Stamps: The Steven Miller: that's Michael Stamps: uh Steven Miller: because Michael Stamps: it's made Steven Miller: you're always Michael Stamps: for Steven Miller: walking. Michael Stamps: s people well, the they don't if it was uh uh r useless technology, they wouldn't put it uh as a possibility. Steven Miller: Uh solar cells Michael Stamps: And i Steven Miller: are Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: useless. Michael Stamps: it Scott Schofield: Or the hand Michael Stamps: th th Scott Schofield: dynamo Michael Stamps: the the target Scott Schofield: dynamo Michael Stamps: the target uh group are people who zap regularly and throw with their remote control as a matter of speaking. Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: Because I think it when when there w was a remote control where it was useful to have a kinetic uh uh power source, then it would be this one. Because it's one it gets thrown around thrown around a lot and it gets used a lot Hey that maybe that's Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: cool Scott Schofield: but but Michael Stamps: that's a cool thing Scott Schofield: if Michael Stamps: about Scott Schofield: we ca Michael Stamps: it, you know. You don't use batteries. I've never seen it before in a remote control. Scott Schofield: I don't Justin Thomas: But Scott Schofield: know Justin Thomas: then Scott Schofield: if Justin Thomas: we could make a docking station. Scott Schofield: Five minutes. Michael Stamps: No, we we we can't make a docking station anyway. Scott Schofield: That's not true. Michael Stamps: Yeah, we can als or uh also m we we can make Scott Schofield: We can Michael Stamps: one Scott Schofield: make Justin Thomas: Wow, Scott Schofield: a docking Justin Thomas: w Scott Schofield: station Justin Thomas: why Michael Stamps: we Scott Schofield: for Michael Stamps: can Justin Thomas: no Scott Schofield: two Michael Stamps: still Justin Thomas: li Scott Schofield: thirty. Michael Stamps: make Justin Thomas: Look at now, we got two Scott Schofield: Two Steven Miller: Fo Scott Schofield: thirty. Justin Thomas: two thirty left. Scott Schofield: We Steven Miller: for Scott Schofield: can Justin Thomas: Ca Scott Schofield: make Justin Thomas: can't Steven Miller: a docking Scott Schofield: a docking Justin Thomas: we Steven Miller: station. Justin Thomas: make Scott Schofield: station. Justin Thomas: a docking station Scott Schofield: Sure. Justin Thomas: of that? Steven Miller: With a cable, with uh buttons on it, Scott Schofield: Sure. Steven Miller: with retrieval uh device Justin Thomas: I don't Steven Miller: in Justin Thomas: know. Steven Miller: it. Scott Schofield: The power device is is i i is very cheap. That's just a regular uh power cable and Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: whatever. Michael Stamps: but be serious, then uh the Steven Miller: Wi Michael Stamps: docking station will be Justin Thomas: Well, we Michael Stamps: a Steven Miller: with Michael Stamps: fifth Justin Thomas: we Steven Miller: a Justin Thomas: uh Steven Miller: button Michael Stamps: of the price Steven Miller: to Michael Stamps: of the remote control. Scott Schofield: So. Steven Miller: wi with a button to retrieve it, so it will beep. Uh, Scott Schofield: Yeah. Steven Miller: so it's uh wireless Michael Stamps: Yeah, but we uh Steven Miller: technology. Michael Stamps: we don't inc we haven't looked at the these costs of the speaker and other stuff. I don't think it's realistic for you to do so. Scott Schofield: Well then it's a useless project. Steven Miller: Look at the case, Michael Stamps: Oh, because Steven Miller: the case Michael Stamps: we Steven Miller: the case of of uh of Justin Thomas: Yeah, Steven Miller: uh Justin Thomas: then we don't have Michael Stamps: We well Justin Thomas: any Michael Stamps: look Justin Thomas: innovation Michael Stamps: at all the special Justin Thomas: things. Michael Stamps: stuff we have. Colour a the colours are special, the form is special. It th this is whole concept. Uh Scott Schofield: Can't Michael Stamps: maybe Scott Schofield: we Michael Stamps: it Scott Schofield: uh Michael Stamps: with the kinetic thing, I think we could do uh do a compromise uh with the kim Scott Schofield: Can't Michael Stamps: kinetic Scott Schofield: we say fifteen Michael Stamps: thing. Scott Schofield: Euros? No, sta yeah Michael Stamps: Uh, no. Scott Schofield: I mean Steven Miller: No, then we have to sell it for thirty Euros. Scott Schofield: No. Justin Thomas: No, we Steven Miller: It's Justin Thomas: only Steven Miller: the Justin Thomas: make less profit of it. Scott Schofield: You can sell for twenty seven and a half. Then you make as much profit as Justin Thomas: No. Scott Schofield: you would with twelve and a half production costs. Michael Stamps: Yeah, I don my suggestion is to just forget about the whole docking station thing and make it uh like a Uh uh I I I I still fee I also feel this concept of making it kinetic, because of the you know, it g Scott Schofield: I Michael Stamps: it Scott Schofield: don't Michael Stamps: gives Scott Schofield: think Michael Stamps: something Steven Miller: Maybe we Michael Stamps: dynamic Steven Miller: can uh can Michael Stamps: to the Steven Miller: do Michael Stamps: remote Steven Miller: it both. Michael Stamps: control. Steven Miller: Maybe we can do it both uh in the in the in the remote. Battery and kinetic. Scott Schofield: No. Michael Stamps: No, that wouldn't n no. Scott Schofield: Thirteen twenty. Michael Stamps: Yeah, and it is also not a good it's not you Scott Schofield: And Michael Stamps: have Scott Schofield: I think Michael Stamps: to really Scott Schofield: only Michael Stamps: do it only kinetic, you don't want it to think about batteries anymore. Steven Miller: Yes, but Scott Schofield: Yeah, Steven Miller: when Scott Schofield: but only Steven Miller: it's then Scott Schofield: kinetic, Steven Miller: when it Scott Schofield: then you Michael Stamps: No Steven Miller: then you Scott Schofield: gotta Michael Stamps: no. Steven Miller: have to shake it uh and all when it's when it's empty. Michael Stamps: Yeah, Scott Schofield: You you gotta Michael Stamps: it's Scott Schofield: throw Michael Stamps: great. Scott Schofield: uh throw it through the room like twenty times an hour, Michael Stamps: No Scott Schofield: really. Michael Stamps: no no. No no, this is very sophisticated technology technology. When you Steven Miller: You Michael Stamps: use Steven Miller: asked Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: for Michael Stamps: your Steven Miller: three Michael Stamps: remote Steven Miller: d Michael Stamps: like once a day, or maybe even less i i Steven Miller: No, Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: that's n that's not true. Uh, Scott Schofield: No. Steven Miller: a watch is uh kinetic Michael Stamps: It Steven Miller: because you walk Michael Stamps: We Steven Miller: all Michael Stamps: can Steven Miller: the time. Michael Stamps: make it yeah no. Becau be but a remote control gets why do they state that this technology Steven Miller: Yes, Michael Stamps: can be Steven Miller: solar Michael Stamps: used if Steven Miller: cells Michael Stamps: it Steven Miller: are also stated. Michael Stamps: Yeah, m but a w uh uh n uh a calculator also works on r on Steven Miller: Why Michael Stamps: solar Steven Miller: don't Michael Stamps: cells. Steven Miller: we use solar cells then? Michael Stamps: Because I think the d whole dynamic part, do you know, appeals to Scott Schofield qui uh thinking of our design philosophy, you know, with the rubber parts and uh sturdiness of the thing, and y when you move it around a lot, then people find the idea funny that when I move my Steven Miller: That's Michael Stamps: remote Steven Miller: true. Michael Stamps: control around Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: and Scott Schofield: it's funny for a week. I guess something like that, where you have to move it around very frequently, is demotivating. Michael Stamps: Yeah, but you don't have to. Trust Scott Schofield. The idea of this technology is that you don't think about it, it just happens. Scott Schofield: No, I I don't move my uh my Michael Stamps: Okay, Steven Miller: Oui. Scott Schofield: remote Michael Stamps: then we Scott Schofield: control Michael Stamps: d Okay, Scott Schofield: very Michael Stamps: well Scott Schofield: much, Michael Stamps: y we don't Scott Schofield: seriously. Michael Stamps: have to do it, but what that would just have a lack of key features, you know. You m have to put something on your box. You have to make people buy it and uh We can really can do the docking thing, uh it's not yeah, uh we can do it, but it's would be a Steven Miller: You Michael Stamps: easy Steven Miller: can Michael Stamps: way Steven Miller: do Michael Stamps: out. Steven Miller: it for fifty cents. Scott Schofield: Well, we've got more than fifty Cents. Steven Miller: The c Michael Stamps: Okay, but Steven Miller: The Michael Stamps: we Steven Miller: case Michael Stamps: have to grou Steven Miller: the Michael Stamps: to Steven Miller: case Michael Stamps: agree upon Steven Miller: alone Michael Stamps: something, Steven Miller: is is Michael Stamps: because Steven Miller: is Michael Stamps: uh Steven Miller: uh Michael Stamps: we only have a minute left or so. Steven Miller: the case alone for uh remote control is at least one Euro. Then we have one Euro thirty for the whole Michael Stamps: No Steven Miller: docking Michael Stamps: no, Steven Miller: station. Michael Stamps: it's not possible. Okay, w b we can s we can leave it on be well then then th it's this is then then our concept is ready. Justin Thomas: Cheap remote control. Michael Stamps: Yeah, we make some extra profit of Scott Schofield: Yeah. Michael Stamps: it. Scott Schofield: No, we won't, but that's Steven Miller: But now Scott Schofield: um something else. No, this Justin Thomas: It Scott Schofield: not Justin Thomas: w it Scott Schofield: gonna Justin Thomas: won't Scott Schofield: sell. Justin Thomas: tell, but Michael Stamps: Huh, Scott Schofield: No. Michael Stamps: any ideas? Scott Schofield: Of course not. Justin Thomas: No, uh, n no Steven Miller: Great. It's great. Justin Thomas: Yeah, we Steven Miller: Our Justin Thomas: just Steven Miller: remote Justin Thomas: have Steven Miller: control. Justin Thomas: to go all what we did today again. You have to do it over. Scott Schofield: We come back tomorrow, okay? Justin Thomas: Yeah. Michael Stamps: No Steven Miller: Yes. Michael Stamps: no uh there's Justin Thomas: the Michael Stamps: still there's still Steven Miller: Seventy Michael Stamps: someth concept Steven Miller: Euros. Michael Stamps: and something special left. I mean we're gonna it's gonna excel in Justin Thomas: No, Michael Stamps: in Justin Thomas: but Michael Stamps: on in Justin Thomas: no. Michael Stamps: the the range in the field of design and and uh looks and feel. That's what it's makes it special. Yeah, and I would li I would have liked a kinetic part as well, to give it some just to give it some extra special feature, and uh I know it will work, but uh it's it's an They're they're not putting technologies on this, but if it if it was impossible to to make it happen. Steven Miller: Why not a hand dynamo then? Michael Stamps: Okay, well we leave it like this. Then it's c Justin Thomas: Yeah, Michael Stamps: then we're yeah. Justin Thomas: yeah. Scott Schofield: We can't do anything else. Warning, finish meeting now. Steven Miller: We're done. Michael Stamps: Okay, Steven Miller: Is this it? Michael Stamps: project e uh well, Scott Schofield: Yeah, Michael Stamps: we were gonna Scott Schofield: sure. Michael Stamps: what look take Steven Miller: Okay. Michael Stamps: a look at the last sheet. Scott Schofield: No, we can't. Michael Stamps: Yeah, we have to Yeah, it's Justin Thomas: No. Scott Schofield: Yes, yes. Steven Miller: Yes. Scott Schofield: Celebration. I don't see why, but Steven Miller: Where's the champagne? Scott Schofield: I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire, to be honest. Justin Thomas: Yeah? Steven Miller: I don't uh hear a bell. Scott Schofield: No, not yet. Alright, Justin Thomas: We Scott Schofield: I'll Justin Thomas: can Scott Schofield: see Justin Thomas: do Scott Schofield: you Justin Thomas: it Scott Schofield: guys Justin Thomas: here Scott Schofield: in Justin Thomas: then. Scott Schofield: a minute. Steven Miller: Bye. Scott Schofield: I Justin Thomas: Can Scott Schofield: don't Justin Thomas: we Scott Schofield: think Justin Thomas: can't Scott Schofield: so. Justin Thomas: we do it here? Scott Schofield: I don't know. I don't I don't think so. Steven Miller: Uh-huh. Just fill that one in. Justin Thomas: Yeah, we're doing now. But it's. Oh, okay. Michael Stamps: Uh, I Justin Thomas: Nice. Michael Stamps: don't know.	Michael Stamps opened the meeting. Justin Thomas and industrial designer presented the prototype design. The remote has buttons for power, mute, teletext, volume and channel up/down, and nine numbered channel buttons. The group discussed what buttons would be needed to enter channels 10 and above. They discussed adapting the docking station so it could be used with other products but did not make a decision. The remote is plastic with different coloured rubber strips on the sides and rubber buttons. Scott Schofield led the product evaluation. The group were generally satisfied with the design but did not think the remote was technologically innovative. The overall score was 2.6. The group worked out the manufacturing costs. The group had problems figuring out the cost of the docking station and buttons, and did not know which kind of chip to use. They discussed using kinetic energy to make the remote more technologically innovative but decided against it. They eventually decided that they could not afford a docking station. They did not have time to evaluate the project process before the end of the meeting.	3	amisum	train
Tyrone Shively: I dunno. Throwing away my toothpick. Tony Milton: Hi there. Ronald Crist: Yo. Ow. Tyrone Shively: 'Kay. Ronald Crist: Uh Tyrone Shively: Nice user interface. Ronald Crist: Yeah. What the Uh Yeah well, ja well let's just start. Tyrone Shively: 'Kay. Ronald Crist: I've uh made a presentation Tyrone Shively: Right let's Ronald Crist: uh Tyrone Shively: see it. Ronald Crist: but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard, so we can all see it. So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well. Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh I'm Ronald Crist, so I had to fill it in, Tyrone Shively: 'Kay. Ronald Crist: and uh hmm. Oh sorry. And an uh a nice agenda. Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other, what uh we already do, so, that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here, so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction. We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project, and then uh we'll close the meeting, and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So this the opening we'll uh We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think, so. Tyrone Shively: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: Um we want it to be original, so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy, it's also for young people, and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly, so size does matter. And uh Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place, that kin Stephen Smith: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: those kind of things. Other uh There happen to be uh three stages. functional, conceptual, and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work, get meeting, talk about it, uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it. Um We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed, there's a project management folder, a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh Words Excel, everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things, you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board. you have a these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen, and it's works just like a bal ball pen. This is just a. I want to uh Oh yeah. Of course w doesn't work any more. Stephen Smith: Maybe you should try write on the on the big uh Does it? Yeah. Ronald Crist: Yes I Stephen Smith: It Ronald Crist: will Stephen Smith: works. Ronald Crist: eraser so. It's Stephen Smith: Wonderful. Ronald Crist: fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away. Stephen Smith: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: Uh just we can start a new one, and we just go on, and don't throw anything away. Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete, but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen, you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it, but it does work sometimes. Well it's just like a normal uh paint. So it's gone. Stephen Smith: Alright, yep. Ronald Crist: Well we are designers, so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard. So that's fantastic. Um well this uh speaks for itself. We going to try it. So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board, not my idea. Tyrone Shively: Alright, your favourite animal? Ronald Crist: Yes our your favourite. So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo, but I'm going d I'm not going to. I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast w I dunno Tyrone Shively: Grizzly Ronald Crist: what I'm going Tyrone Shively: bear. Ronald Crist: to design. Oh um doesn't Stephen Smith: I hope Ronald Crist: oh. Stephen Smith: this was part of the Ronald Crist: Yeah, Stephen Smith: assignment Ronald Crist: 'kay. Stephen Smith: and not uh your uh Ronald Crist: Hmm? Stephen Smith: I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment. Ronald Crist: I just said it's Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Ronald Crist: not my idea but I am Ronald Crist, and officially this is my idea. Stephen Smith: I I Ronald Crist: So Stephen Smith: I I understand. Tyrone Shively: We're kinda Stephen Smith: Alright. Tyrone Shively: losing time, though. Ronald Crist: what? Tyrone Shively: We're losing time, Ronald Crist: Ah Tyrone Shively: but Stephen Smith: so start Ronald Crist: the first the first meeting is just a bit uh loose, Tyrone Shively: Alright. Ronald Crist: loosen up, a bit uh meeting each other well uh uh Stephen Smith: Yep Ronald Crist: nice yeah. Stephen Smith: yes. Ronald Crist: Sh I hope our Industrial Designer does this better because uh this is Stephen Smith: Don't Ronald Crist: uh Stephen Smith: count it Ronald Crist: No so a a few Tyrone Shively: Do Ronald Crist: legs. Tyrone Shively: we have to guess? A Ronald Crist: Yes yes guess. Tyrone Shively: hippo? Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: I Ronald Crist: I should make it an hippo now. Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: think it's a mouse or a rat. Ronald Crist: No I don't think so. Stephen Smith: Oh. Oh I know it. Ronald Crist: Well what is it, huh? Stephen Smith: It's Tyrone Shively: I Stephen Smith: a Tyrone Shively: don't Stephen Smith: hedgehog. Tyrone Shively: know how to call it. Ronald Crist: Yeah Tyrone Shively: A hedgehog? Ronald Crist: difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself. Stephen Smith: Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills. Ronald Crist: Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very uh painful those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh Stephen Smith: Yeah. Ronald Crist: We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can Tyrone Shively: Alright. Ronald Crist: uh draw its Stephen Smith: I Ronald Crist: uh Stephen Smith: am the Industrial Ronald Crist: most Stephen Smith: Designer. Ronald Crist: favourite animal. Huh. Stephen Smith: Chief, I am Stephen Smith. Ronald Crist: Oh uh but this uh marketing designer. Stephen Smith: Yeah. I think It's pr it resembles the animal drawn by. Tyrone Shively: It's. Ronald Crist: what kind of animal is that then? Stephen Smith: I think can I say it? Tyrone Shively: Yeah sure. It's a rabbit. Well Looks very nice, right? Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: It looks amazing. Ronald Crist: No no no. What are you going to do? Tony Milton: We want to erase it. Ronald Crist: No no. No no save it and start a new uh save it Tyrone Shively: Yes. Stephen Smith: These are very Ronald Crist: and start Stephen Smith: impor Ronald Crist: a new black uh doc a Stephen Smith: These Ronald Crist: blank Stephen Smith: are very Ronald Crist: document. Stephen Smith: important documents, of course, uh these drawings, Ronald Crist: Yeah well we have Stephen Smith: uh Tyrone Shively: Yes Ronald Crist: to save Tyrone Shively: uh Ronald Crist: everything so now Tyrone Shively: right. Ronald Crist: um the next one uh Tyrone Shively: You go man. Ronald Crist: and then save Tony Milton: Thanks. Ronald Crist: it and start an blank document. Yeah. There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness. So Tyrone Shively: Alright. Ronald Crist: um well you should uh try it but uh Tyrone Shively: I should have made mine a white rabbit. Ronald Crist: Well y y y you could have but uh. Stephen Smith: And he deliberately Ronald Crist: It Stephen Smith: draws Ronald Crist: speaks for Stephen Smith: a Ronald Crist: itself. Stephen Smith: animal we don't know the English word for. Ronald Crist: What the Stephen Smith: It looks like an uh Ronald Crist: uh just a duck. Stephen Smith: It looks like that beast from Sesame Street. Ronald Crist: Nice. Stephen Smith: Yeah. Tony Milton: Big bird. Ronald Crist: Is Tyrone Shively: You're Ronald Crist: it Tyrone Shively: standing Ronald Crist: a duck? Tyrone Shively: in front Stephen Smith: It's Tyrone Shively: of it, I Stephen Smith: it's Tyrone Shively: can't see Stephen Smith: uh Ronald Crist: Is it a plane? Tyrone Shively: it. Alright, thank you. Yeah it's a bird, but what kind of bird? Ronald Crist: It doesn't draw uh Stephen Smith: Do we have Ronald Crist: circles Stephen Smith: to uh Ronald Crist: uh that easy uh. Tyrone Shively: You have to push harder. Ronald Crist: Yeah Tony Milton: Mm. Ronald Crist: just a bit a bit childish, a bit. Stephen Smith: But we have uh Tyrone Shively: Release Stephen Smith: do Tyrone Shively: your anger. Stephen Smith: we have to name the specific species of the bird? Tony Milton: Uh Stephen Smith: No? Tony Milton: no I don't. It's just a bird. Stephen Smith: Well Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: wonderful. Ronald Crist: uh save the document and then uh And then a a new blank document for. uh will uh Tony Milton: Here Ronald Crist: choose Tony Milton: you go. Ronald Crist: a new colour and a new pen width so w Stephen Smith: Why Ronald Crist: we can Stephen Smith: do Ronald Crist: all Stephen Smith: I Ronald Crist: see Stephen Smith: have to Ronald Crist: it. Stephen Smith: do the difficult tasks? Uh Ronald Crist: No well first Stephen Smith: pen Ronald Crist: yeah. Stephen Smith: yeah that's. Ronald Crist: And then you go to format I think, Stephen Smith: Uh current Ronald Crist: and Stephen Smith: colour. Ronald Crist: current colour you choose a new colour. And Stephen Smith: I Ronald Crist: a Stephen Smith: like Ronald Crist: new Stephen Smith: uh Tony Milton: Mm. Stephen Smith: oh they don't have pink. Oh b oh think this Ronald Crist: pen Stephen Smith: is uh Ronald Crist: width uh also format. It's not like in paint. Stephen Smith: Uh? Uh Ronald Crist: Line width. And you can choose Stephen Smith: Line Ronald Crist: a nice Stephen Smith: width. Ronald Crist: one. Tony Milton: Width. Ronald Crist: Width width. Stephen Smith: Uh Ronald Crist: With each other. Stephen Smith: fifteen. And Tony Milton: Hmm. Stephen Smith: I can draw? Ronald Crist: Yeah. So. Just Stephen Smith: Uh Ronald Crist: a wa that's the way we do it's quite easy. Tyrone Shively: Hmm. Ronald Crist: Mm-hmm. Tony Milton: It's a pussy cat. Tyrone Shively: It's a cat. Ronald Crist: Oh Pussy. Stephen Smith: Oh the line width is too thick, but oh Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: well. Ronald Crist: then you change it. And erase things. Stephen Smith: Uh. Ronald Crist: What? Tyrone Shively: It's a pig. Stephen Smith: It smiles nicely. Ronald Crist: Super pig. Stephen Smith: Now I have to change the line width. Uh one. Ronald Crist: So Stephen Smith: These are whiskers, you know. Ronald Crist: Yeah yeah yeah Tyrone Shively: Right. Ronald Crist: we know. Stephen Smith: Uh well I think it's obvious right now. Ronald Crist: Yes alright. It's a cat. Tyrone Shively: No it looks great. Stephen Smith: Miaow. Well if this isn't obvious Ronald Crist: Well well um Tyrone Shively: Just save it. Ronald Crist: Yeah Stephen Smith: I'll Ronald Crist: save Stephen Smith: save Ronald Crist: it Stephen Smith: it alright uh save. Ronald Crist: and start a new blank document. Stephen Smith: Uh yeah uh blank. Ronald Crist: Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it. Stephen Smith: Well Tyrone Shively: Oh great. Stephen Smith: I feel comfortable Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: now. Thanks for Ronald Crist: it's Stephen Smith: this Ronald Crist: terrific, Stephen Smith: exercise. Ronald Crist: eh? Tyrone Shively: It's good Stephen Smith: I feel Tyrone Shively: for group spirit. Stephen Smith: totally at ease. Ronald Crist: Yeah Tony Milton: It Ronald Crist: that's it. Tony Milton: certainly is. Ronald Crist: We're one big happy family now. Stephen Smith: Yeah something like that. Ronald Crist: Well then uh the serious uh stuff. We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars, but uh twenty five Euros. Our profit aim is, worldwide, fifty million Euros. Stephen Smith: So Ronald Crist: So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell. we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so, keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff, Tyrone Shively: Right. Stephen Smith: Alright. Ronald Crist: and uh marketing uh research. Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls, first about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera? Tyrone Shively: Right. Ronald Crist: Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes and uh Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls? Stephen Smith: Well Ronald Crist: Please? Stephen Smith: I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh Ronald Crist: No uh Stephen Smith: it's Ronald Crist: I Stephen Smith: not, Ronald Crist: did. Stephen Smith: it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls, but uh Ronald Crist: Well uh just w we're uh four uh if Tyrone Shively: I think Ronald Crist: we if Tyrone Shively: it's Ronald Crist: we would Tyrone Shively: im Ronald Crist: just have one then Tyrone Shively: it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors. Ronald Crist: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control. Ronald Crist: Yeah yeah. Tyrone Shively: On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce. Ronald Crist: Yep. Tyrone Shively: Maybe it's important Ronald Crist: That's alright. Tyrone Shively: to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player Ronald Crist: That would be a nice idea, yes. Tyrone Shively: so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote Ronald Crist: Yep Tyrone Shively: control. Ronald Crist: yep yep. Tyrone Shively: Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world, for different cultures, maybe, because we want to we want to well fifty million? Ronald Crist: Yes fifty Stephen Smith: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: million is our aim to Tyrone Shively: Yeah Ronald Crist: a profit, Tyrone Shively: yeah Ronald Crist: so. Tyrone Shively: so a lot of people have to be able to use it. Stephen Smith: No but Tyrone Shively: So Stephen Smith: uh the Tony Milton: Easy Stephen Smith: b Tony Milton: to Stephen Smith: the Tony Milton: learn. Stephen Smith: buttons have to Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh Tyrone Shively: Yeah that's right. Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: Yes. Stephen Smith: and numbers and uh that every culture in uh, yeah, people in every Tony Milton: Yeah. Stephen Smith: country can recognise. Ronald Crist: I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh Tyrone Shively: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: just now. Stephen Smith: Alright. Tony Milton: I also Ronald Crist: Well Tony Milton: think Tyrone Shively: Right. Tony Milton: we should Ronald Crist: yeah? Tony Milton: not add too many buttons. Modern Ronald Crist: No Tony Milton: day uh remotes have Ronald Crist: that's right. Y Tony Milton: too Ronald Crist: y Tony Milton: much Ronald Crist: you Tony Milton: buttons Ronald Crist: don't use Tony Milton: I think. Ronald Crist: uh the half of them that's that's Tony Milton: Precisely. Ronald Crist: culture uh international. Tyrone Shively: Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_ Tony Milton: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something. Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: Yes. Stephen Smith: Yeah so Tony Milton: indeed. Stephen Smith: it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons Tyrone Shively: Yeah Stephen Smith: and Tyrone Shively: right. Stephen Smith: uh Ronald Crist: Yep, and maybe we do uh we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: ou Tony Milton: we should make it compatible Stephen Smith: And stereo Ronald Crist: Uh. Tony Milton: perhaps with everything Stephen Smith: uh s Tony Milton: we use, Stephen Smith: uh Ronald Crist: We also Stephen Smith: audio Tony Milton: we Ronald Crist: uh Tony Milton: uh Ronald Crist: just Stephen Smith: installations. Tony Milton: we make? Ronald Crist: uh released a T_F_T_ uh Tyrone Shively: Yeah so Ronald Crist: thing Tyrone Shively: but Ronald Crist: I saw. Tyrone Shively: th that's kind kind of standard T_ television Ronald Crist: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: so Tony Milton: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: it also works on that. Ronald Crist: Yep. Tony Milton: And I think the people who who will buy our uh remote already have some experience with remotes. So we can keep Stephen Smith: Most Tony Milton: that in Stephen Smith: people Tony Milton: mind. Stephen Smith: do, yeah. Ronald Crist: Well yeah. Stephen Smith: It doesn't it Ronald Crist: It doesn't Stephen Smith: doesn't Ronald Crist: have Stephen Smith: have to Ronald Crist: to Stephen Smith: be Ronald Crist: be, but Tony Milton: W Ronald Crist: we can. Tony Milton: well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh Ronald Crist: Well Tony Milton: to control with it. Ronald Crist: except Tyrone Shively: Yeah but Ronald Crist: if we deliver it together with Stephen Smith: Yeah. Ronald Crist: our D_V_D_. Tony Milton: Yeah alright, Tyrone Shively: We need to Tony Milton: but Tyrone Shively: to keep it consistent with other d uh Ronald Crist: Yeah Stephen Smith: Well. Ronald Crist: because we look at competitors and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design Stephen Smith: Hmm. Tyrone Shively: Yeah but it's Stephen Smith: It Tyrone Shively: it Stephen Smith: has to be Tyrone Shively: has Stephen Smith: different Tyrone Shively: to be Stephen Smith: and Tyrone Shively: useable. Stephen Smith: familiar at the same time. Ronald Crist: Yes. Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Tony Milton: Yeah. Yeah we could use Ronald Crist: Yep. Tony Milton: another form or shape or colour, Stephen Smith: yeah Tony Milton: that Stephen Smith: the shape Tony Milton: kind of Stephen Smith: will Tony Milton: things. Stephen Smith: will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: you can make it uh triangle shaped, but that's Tony Milton: Well Stephen Smith: not Tony Milton: we Stephen Smith: uh Tony Milton: we Stephen Smith: very Tony Milton: could Ronald Crist: Oo Tony Milton: make Stephen Smith: recognisable. Tony Milton: more Tyrone Shively: No. Tony Milton: more oval or something, and Stephen Smith: Oval? Tony Milton: and Ronald Crist: N we can Stephen Smith: I Ronald Crist: use Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: uh Tony Milton: or Ronald Crist: it Tony Milton: so Ronald Crist: as a as a game pad. So Stephen Smith: Mm. Tony Milton: Well yeah it's new. Tyrone Shively: Not with two hands. Ronald Crist: one hand has the beer, so Tyrone Shively: Yeah Ronald Crist: the other Tyrone Shively: yeah Ronald Crist: hand Tyrone Shively: yeah, right. Ronald Crist: uh Tyrone Shively: No Tony Milton: but young people want something different and it is Ronald Crist: Well i Tyrone Shively: Yeah but Ronald Crist: we already Tyrone Shively: it's Ronald Crist: uh Tyrone Shively: quite important Ronald Crist: one of Tyrone Shively: that Ronald Crist: our Tyrone Shively: it Ronald Crist: aims Tyrone Shively: fits. Ronald Crist: is that it has to be original Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: and Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: Oh Ronald Crist: trendy Stephen Smith: but it ha it has to be Ronald Crist: so Stephen Smith: m yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: Well Tony Milton: alright. Ronald Crist: there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to we can imagine uh because it's a long time uh on the market. So Stephen Smith: Yeah. Ronald Crist: the the form will have been uh tested out so Stephen Smith: Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh, yeah, useful Ronald Crist: Yes. Stephen Smith: or Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: else uh they would have been ano another Ronald Crist: for Tyrone Shively personally Stephen Smith: shape. Ronald Crist: I have a a lot of remotes uh at home but those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle I don't like to use them. I have uh have to it has to fit my hands. Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: When it falls over it and I just have and then the button Tyrone Shively: It shouldn't Stephen Smith: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: be Ronald Crist: that Tyrone Shively: boxy. Ronald Crist: I use most Stephen Smith: Yeah a lo Ronald Crist: has to be Stephen Smith: the Ronald Crist: here. Stephen Smith: long box shape yeah. You have to Ronald Crist: It f it fits Stephen Smith: use Tyrone Shively: Nah Ronald Crist: your hands Stephen Smith: one hand. Ronald Crist: and then you just push the button that you use most Tyrone Shively: I don't Ronald Crist: with Tyrone Shively: agree with the long box Ronald Crist: thumb. Tyrone Shively: uh shape it Stephen Smith: Why not? Tyrone Shively: it has to be custom made for the hand. Tony Milton: Yeah it doesn't fit. Ronald Crist: Tho Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Ronald Crist: tho those new D_V_D_ Stephen Smith: But Ronald Crist: players Stephen Smith: it Ronald Crist: on Stephen Smith: does Ronald Crist: the Stephen Smith: fit Ronald Crist: market Stephen Smith: in the hand if Ronald Crist: do Stephen Smith: you hold Ronald Crist: have Stephen Smith: it like Ronald Crist: those. Stephen Smith: this, and you Tyrone Shively: Yeah Stephen Smith: can Tyrone Shively: but Stephen Smith: make Tyrone Shively: if Stephen Smith: it another Tyrone Shively: you shape Stephen Smith: shape, but Tyrone Shively: it Stephen Smith: then you have Tony Milton: No if y Tyrone Shively: If Tony Milton: if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_ with their uh remotes Ronald Crist: D_V_D_ players. Yes. Tony Milton: pl players they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped. Stephen Smith: W Tony Milton: They're Stephen Smith: no Tony Milton: all Stephen Smith: w Tyrone Shively: No Tony Milton: um Stephen Smith: what else? I di Tyrone Shively: that's Tony Milton: Well Tyrone Shively: ol old fashioned. Tony Milton: Yeah. Stephen Smith: Yeah well Tyrone Shively: I Stephen Smith: but Tyrone Shively: can Stephen Smith: uh Tyrone Shively: imagine Stephen Smith: what Tony Milton: Yes uh Stephen Smith: what Tyrone Shively: that us Stephen Smith: what do you suggest then? Tony Milton: Well Tyrone Shively: Well Tony Milton: most of of them are are somewhat thicker at the end, and Tyrone Shively: Yeah right. Tony Milton: get um yeah thinner Tyrone Shively: It Tony Milton: towards Tyrone Shively: fits Tony Milton: the Tyrone Shively: in your Tony Milton: uh Tyrone Shively: palms. Tony Milton: the other end. Stephen Smith: Hmm. Tony Milton: Mm. Stephen Smith: Well but it's still then uh the the long box, uh but then with some Tony Milton: Yeah it Stephen Smith: uh round uh Tyrone Shively: Hmm? Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: round Ronald Crist: A Stephen Smith: forms Tyrone Shively: Um. Stephen Smith: in it to fit Ronald Crist: it Stephen Smith: your Ronald Crist: h Stephen Smith: hand, Ronald Crist: it has Stephen Smith: but it's Ronald Crist: it it Stephen Smith: it's Ronald Crist: has Stephen Smith: still Ronald Crist: a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand. Stephen Smith: Yeah yeah al alright but Ronald Crist: That's Stephen Smith: but it's still it's still sort of box, yeah. It it has Tony Milton: Yeah Stephen Smith: round forms Tony Milton: yea Stephen Smith: but it in the end it's Tyrone Shively: Well Stephen Smith: still the box, so that's what I mean. Tyrone Shively: Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand. Stephen Smith: Yeah yeah I Tyrone Shively: It Stephen Smith: understand, Tyrone Shively: shouldn't Stephen Smith: but Tyrone Shively: be too boxy, you know. Stephen Smith: no no Tyrone Shively: It's Tony Milton: Hmm. Stephen Smith: I don't mean an entire box like completely Tyrone Shively: No no no. Stephen Smith: square but a also with round edges of course, but Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: in in in at the end it's still this long Tyrone Shively: Yeah it should be Stephen Smith: box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh Tyrone Shively: Right maybe Stephen Smith: to Tyrone Shively: something Stephen Smith: fit. Tyrone Shively: like this or Stephen Smith: Yeah Tyrone Shively: and then Stephen Smith: yes Tyrone Shively: a Stephen Smith: I Tyrone Shively: button Stephen Smith: thought Tyrone Shively: here Stephen Smith: about Tyrone Shively: to Stephen Smith: something Tyrone Shively: switch Stephen Smith: like Tyrone Shively: between Stephen Smith: that. Tyrone Shively: different systems like D_V_D_ Stephen Smith: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: player and so you can Stephen Smith: A big Tyrone Shively: I've Stephen Smith: recognisable button on top or something. Tyrone Shively: Yeah right, and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea Tony Milton: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: with the with the numbers and Ronald Crist: We have five minutes left. So Stephen Smith: The Tyrone Shively: Right. Stephen Smith: buttons should uh also be not too small, not too big, of course, and Ronald Crist: Yes Stephen Smith: uh Ronald Crist: uh that's Stephen Smith: n uh uh not too Ronald Crist: yep. Stephen Smith: close Tyrone Shively: But it Stephen Smith: uh Tyrone Shively: should be Stephen Smith: together. Tyrone Shively: possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button. Ronald Crist: Yep. Tyrone Shively: So Stephen Smith: Uh-huh. Tyrone Shively: there has to be some space between the buttons. Stephen Smith: Yeah of course Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different Tyrone Shively: Yeah right Stephen Smith: functions. Tyrone Shively: right, Stephen Smith: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: and maybe we should use colours. Stephen Smith: Colours, Tony Milton: Yeah Stephen Smith: yeah. Tony Milton: maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Tony Milton: you can you can put on on them, Ronald Crist: Ha. Tony Milton: and Tyrone Shively: That's Tony Milton: so Tyrone Shively: kinda Tony Milton: you can Tyrone Shively: trendy. Tony Milton: customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special Tyrone Shively: Yeah right. Tony Milton: paint jobs I dunno Ronald Crist: Sound Tony Milton: but Ronald Crist: nice. Yes. Stephen Smith: I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um. Tony Milton: Well Ronald Crist: Well it's just uh about our first ideas now so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about Tyrone Shively: Right. Ronald Crist: these materials Tyrone Shively: But Ronald Crist: and markets etcetera. Stephen Smith: Already Ronald Crist: Yes? Tyrone Shively: I think Stephen Smith: thought Tyrone Shively: it's Stephen Smith: about Tyrone Shively: uh Stephen Smith: something tha Tyrone Shively: it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that Ronald Crist: Yes. Tyrone Shively: we make, so we Ronald Crist: Well thirty minutes we have. Stephen Smith: Mm-hmm. Ronald Crist: So um This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh. You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Ronald Crist: room so uh it's uh logical uh. I think. Tyrone Shively: No problem. Ronald Crist: Oh and uh that's uh that's all. So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over. Stephen Smith: Yeah now we Ronald Crist: Yeah Stephen Smith: can still talk about the material, Ronald Crist: yes Stephen Smith: we Ronald Crist: say. Tony Milton: Mm. Stephen Smith: have some some minutes left uh I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course, hard plastic, Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Yeah it shouldn't be too heavy. Stephen Smith: No n Ronald Crist: Well Stephen Smith: n Ronald Crist: I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons and when I've had use it much it was gone. Tony Milton: Yeah Tyrone Shively: Yeah Tony Milton: that's Tyrone Shively: yeah Ronald Crist: So Tony Milton: bad, Ronald Crist: it Tyrone Shively: yeah. Ronald Crist: has Tony Milton: yeah. Ronald Crist: to be made in the buttons I think. It has to uh not Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: be Tony Milton: that's Ronald Crist: loose. Tony Milton: important. Stephen Smith: Mm. Alright. And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: to connect things uh Ronald Crist: Is there an a Stephen Smith: to Ronald Crist: universal Stephen Smith: each other. Ronald Crist: uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh Tyrone Shively: Yeah Stephen Smith: I Tyrone Shively: it's Stephen Smith: think Tyrone Shively: univ Stephen Smith: so. Tyrone Shively: yeah Stephen Smith: It's Tyrone Shively: yeah Stephen Smith: a Tyrone Shively: yeah. Ronald Crist: It's not that Stephen Smith: a Ronald Crist: in Stephen Smith: common Ronald Crist: China Stephen Smith: stan Ronald Crist: it's Stephen Smith: standard Ronald Crist: different? Stephen Smith: way Tyrone Shively: Yep. Stephen Smith: infrared beams an infrared beam Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: I think. Ronald Crist: But y you can have uh of Tyrone Shively: And you can Ronald Crist: course Tyrone Shively: use Ronald Crist: different between D_V_D_s and televisions Stephen Smith: It it's Ronald Crist: and between Stephen Smith: a we we make an a universal remote Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: so it ha has to work with uh all Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: kinds of brands Tony Milton: Yeah. Stephen Smith: and Tony Milton: But Stephen Smith: things. Tony Milton: our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country, so Ronald Crist: Probably yes. China rules. Stephen Smith: And have well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works. The user presses a button and with an infrared beam Tyrone Shively: But Stephen Smith: it signals the television Tyrone Shively: are Stephen Smith: set accordingly, but that's pretty obvious, I think. Tyrone Shively: Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea? Ronald Crist: Well I think uh w we can Tyrone Shively: I Ronald Crist: look Tyrone Shively: think Ronald Crist: into that in the Tyrone Shively: we Ronald Crist: in Tyrone Shively: should Ronald Crist: the next Tyrone Shively: make Ronald Crist: uh Tyrone Shively: it universal Ronald Crist: thirty minutes. Yeah. Tyrone Shively: and you can always use a front front on it, you know? You can use it just plain Ronald Crist: Yes. Tyrone Shively: but you can Ronald Crist: Well j Tyrone Shively: To make it Ronald Crist: just Tyrone Shively: more trendy. Ronald Crist: y you get a n a normal front with it, but you Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: can change them Tyrone Shively: Right. Ronald Crist: uh when Tony Milton: Yes. Ronald Crist: you buy the Tyrone Shively: Right. Tony Milton: Yes. Ronald Crist: And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts Tony Milton: Mm. Ronald Crist: a a around the world so Tony Milton: Well you Ronald Crist: uh Tony Milton: can make Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Tony Milton: profit with them, and it's a way to make them trendy. Ronald Crist: Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts Stephen Smith: Well Ronald Crist: uh. Tyrone Shively: Yeah Tony Milton: Yeah Tyrone Shively: right. Stephen Smith: but Tony Milton: alright. Stephen Smith: th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something Tony Milton: Yeah Stephen Smith: uh b a simple Ronald Crist: Yes. Tony Milton: normal. Stephen Smith: colour not Ronald Crist: Yeah Stephen Smith: not very flashy. Tony Milton: No Ronald Crist: well it has Tony Milton: a colour Ronald Crist: to Tony Milton: everyone Ronald Crist: it h it Tony Milton: accepts. Ronald Crist: has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell, so if they are Tony Milton: Mm. Ronald Crist: uh black Stephen Smith: Pink television Ronald Crist: and black Stephen Smith: sets Ronald Crist: black Tony Milton: Mm. Ronald Crist: and silver Stephen Smith: pink Ronald Crist: we'll Stephen Smith: remote, Tyrone Shively: Yeah Ronald Crist: make them Tyrone Shively: yeah Ronald Crist: black Tyrone Shively: yeah. Ronald Crist: and silver Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: so. Tony Milton: standard. Tyrone Shively: But people of often don't like bright colours or something. We have to make it grey or s or black. Tony Milton: Well young people Tyrone Shively: Yeah but Tony Milton: s Tyrone Shively: then Tony Milton: li Tyrone Shively: you can use a a front. Tony Milton: Yeah yeah, yeah. Stephen Smith: Alright. Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: I must not forget my pen the next Ronald Crist: Well if Stephen Smith: time. Ronald Crist: if you yeah. If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it. Tony Milton: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: Yeah Ronald Crist: I Tyrone Shively: that's Ronald Crist: think. Tyrone Shively: right. Yeah Ronald Crist: But that's uh marketing Tyrone Shively: or a t Ronald Crist: uh research Tyrone Shively: Teletubby Ronald Crist: you Tyrone Shively: front. Ronald Crist: can uh you can ask Tyrone Shively: Yeah Ronald Crist: uh. Tyrone Shively: yeah yeah. I will investigate. Ronald Crist: Yes. Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh I don't know what your specific instructions will be, but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form, I think. Stephen Smith: Mm yeah Ronald Crist: Or something Stephen Smith: also the Ronald Crist: like Stephen Smith: the Ronald Crist: that. Stephen Smith: look and feel uh of the Ronald Crist: Yeah. Stephen Smith: the remote's also my task, yeah. Ronald Crist: Yeah. Tyrone Shively: Right. Tony Milton: What's the uh url or the website Stephen Smith: Yeah Tony Milton: 'cause Stephen Smith: I uh Tony Milton: I didn't Stephen Smith: w was wondering that too. Y Ronald Crist: Euro? Tony Milton: get Stephen Smith: you Tyrone Shively: It's Stephen Smith: went to the company website. Ronald Crist: Well Tyrone Shively: Yeah yeah Ronald Crist: it Tyrone Shively: yeah Ronald Crist: it Tony Milton: Yeah. Ronald Crist: it's Tyrone Shively: just if Ronald Crist: if Tyrone Shively: you start Ronald Crist: you uh Tyrone Shively: up your Internet Stephen Smith: It's Tyrone Shively: Explorer Stephen Smith: the the Tony Milton: Oh Stephen Smith: the start Tony Milton: oh right Stephen Smith: uh starting Tony Milton: oh Stephen Smith: page Tyrone Shively: Yeah. Stephen Smith: uh Tony Milton: well I didn't uh use it. Ronald Crist: Finish meeting now. Oh alright. Well uh we're going to back uh Tony Milton: Yes. Ronald Crist: back into our rooms so Tyrone Shively: Well that's great. Tony Milton: Next meeting is in Ronald Crist: In thirty Tyrone Shively: Thirty Ronald Crist: minutes, Tyrone Shively: minutes. Tony Milton: Thirty Ronald Crist: but uh Tony Milton: minutes. Ronald Crist: I think it will be you will be warned uh through Tony Milton: Yeah Ronald Crist: your laptop Tony Milton: alright it's Ronald Crist: uh Tony Milton: it's handy to Ronald Crist: to get Tony Milton: know Ronald Crist: over here. I'll have to restore Stephen Smith: Very handy Ronald Crist: my uh Stephen Smith: to know. Ronald Crist: my desktop uh because Tyrone Shively: It's Ronald Crist: uh Tyrone Shively: totally broken. Ronald Crist: it's it's the half of the normal size. Stephen Smith: Right see you in half Ronald Crist: Oh Tony Milton: Oh. Stephen Smith: an hour Ronald Crist: right, Stephen Smith: then. Ronald Crist: oh. Tony Milton: Goodbye. Stephen Smith: W Ronald Crist: Ma Tyrone Shively: Oh Tony Milton: S. Ronald Crist: W that was a nice meeting. Stephen Smith: Right uh see you in thirty Ronald Crist: Yeah, Stephen Smith: minutes then. Ronald Crist: see you.	After introducing the remote control objective, Ronald Crist demonstrated the SmartBoard technology they would be using. They tested it by drawing animals. Ronald Crist informed the group of the budget, before beginning the discussion of current remotes and initial ideas. They considered taking the best of their competitors designs and making a multifunction remote. It needs to be useable internationally, with few buttons. The considered options for the shape of the remote control, imagining how it would fit in the hand. The group ended the discussion by touching very briefly on some materials issues, and discussed remote covers.	3	amisum	train
Donald Medina: Great man. Who starts? Robert Fitzsimmons: Well I'll uh start just with another presentation, Donald Medina: Alright, Robert Fitzsimmons: then Donald Medina: great. Robert Fitzsimmons: we can uh look at th at the agenda uh for this meeting. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. I've put some uh new things in the in the map. Donald Medina: Mm-hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh oh. This is it. I don't know the shortcut, so Ah F_ five. Well our functional design meeting, that's the stage we're in. Robert Westphal: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: And you also ha all three of you have uh prepared something about it. Donald Medina: Yes. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well in uh just have a look at the notes from the previous meeting, what we uh thought we had dec decided. But uh Uh then we'll uh look at uh the three uh presentations uh from you. Donald Medina: 'Kay. Robert Fitzsimmons: I think you have prepared uh all Robert Westphal: Well, Robert Fitzsimmons: three Robert Westphal: yeah. Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh? Um we'll look at th the new project requirements we uh I dunno. Y you also have uh received that mail, the new project requirements from our bosses? Robert Westphal: No. Donald Medina: No. Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh I've received a mail Donald Medina: You're the Robert Fitzsimmons: with Donald Medina: only one. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh some additional requirements, Robert Westphal: Oh Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: and I'll have a look if Well I think we should show them before your presentations, because it's not really uh smart uh to uh to include some things uh we can't, because of the new requirements. Donald Medina: 'Kay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well um then we can make some decisions about our remote control functions. We have to deb we have to decide it in this meeting what our function will be. And then uh we can discuss uh some more closely. Robert Westphal: We have Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Robert Westphal: forty minutes for this uh discussion? Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh yeah, I think so. Robert Westphal: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well uh the closing uh we'll not uh look at it yet. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Um now I'll look at show this board. Um Well uh notes, first meeting. Now. I gave a disc a a presentation. Uh we familiarised ourself with the boards and then we discussed some first ideas. So we said that uh we have to merge the strong points from our uh competitors, Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: and uh look at their uh remote controls. We should make it uh compatible with our new D_V_D_ and other releases we have, our technical releases. Robert Westphal: Huh? Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh not too many one buttons. One recognisable button in the middle, where you do the most important functions with. And um well they can have two functions, because uh you have a D_V_D_ and a television. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Um the design has to fit the hand, be original, but also be familiar. It's uh one of our ideas. Yeah well that wa It's just thirty minutes ago, so it's not quite uh Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm, now it's right. Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: But well I have to do it. The materials uh well should be hard plastic with rubber from, and uh well the labelling of the buttons should be indestructible. It should Robert Westphal: It's Robert Fitzsimmons: be Robert Westphal: meant Robert Fitzsimmons: uh recognisable Robert Westphal: to be easily Robert Fitzsimmons: at Robert Westphal: wiped Robert Fitzsimmons: all Robert Westphal: out, Robert Fitzsimmons: times. Robert Westphal: yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: Okay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well fronts were to be just like mobile telephones. And uh the technical aspects um And also labelling of the buttons, the functions should be universal standards. Well that's just uh some ideas from the first meeting. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: It's quite logical al all of it. Um now the new project requirements, I'll just show them. I got this mail from uh our bosses. Well, teletext goes out. Jerry Schuchart: Oh. Robert Fitzsimmons: We will not use teletext. Donald Medina: Okay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Maybe Robert Westphal: I I Robert Fitzsimmons: a Robert Westphal: disagree, Robert Fitzsimmons: new sort Robert Westphal: but Robert Fitzsimmons: of thing, Robert Westphal: uh it's Robert Fitzsimmons: but Robert Westphal: not Robert Fitzsimmons: n Robert Westphal: uh t Robert Fitzsimmons: but not teletext. Robert Westphal: it's not my place to Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: disagree I guess. Robert Fitzsimmons: the second is a bit sh pity because we just said Jerry Schuchart: Oh. Robert Fitzsimmons: we wanted to d include the D_V_D_ and they don't want it, because Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: of our time we have for this project. Robert Westphal: Oh, alright. Jerry Schuchart: Oh that's a shame. Robert Fitzsimmons: So that's a shame, because uh especially for the third requirement we want to reach people under the thirty years. Because uh we don't have those customers a lot at th at this point. Um well it's a bit pity because it's just those people want to have uh one remote control for all those technical devices they Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: can uh Donald Medina: But let's Robert Fitzsimmons: reach Donald Medina: forget Robert Fitzsimmons: it. Donald Medina: about it. It's just time-consuming, Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: so we uh have to go Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: on. Robert Fitzsimmons: and uh our corporate image should stay rec recognisable in our products. So uh we have to uh use uh maybe a slogan, maybe a colour, and um Yeah well uh on our remote controls the design has to be uh, well as we already said a actually, uh familiar. Donald Medina: Yes. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh not only just uh the shape but also our company. Robert Westphal: Yeah, we are a real fashionable company. I read uh I read it Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Westphal: on the Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: Mm. Robert Westphal: I didn't know what company we were, but we uh especially trendy uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: trendy trendy stuff. So it Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Robert Westphal: has to be uh a modern design. That's important to know, uh when you design a thing of course. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. I I uh noted uh our uh slogan that we have, our company. It's uh we mm put the fashion in electronics. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: So maybe that's a slogan we can put uh somewhere on our remote control or something. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright then um we're going to uh have Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: three presentations. You want to start? Donald Medina: Yeah. I think I have to start. Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh you have to start? I didn't see anything about uh Donald Medina: Oh no, Robert Fitzsimmons: who had to Robert Westphal: The Donald Medina: no Robert Fitzsimmons: start. Robert Westphal: order? Donald Medina: problem. Robert Westphal: No. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: s Donald Medina: I Robert Fitzsimmons: then start. Donald Medina: just have to uh to think which file's mine, 'cause I was uh bit in a hurry. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Well uh Donald Medina: I think it's this one. But I'm not sure. Robert Fitzsimmons: You Donald Medina: Hmm? Robert Fitzsimmons: already uh opened uh Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: PowerPoint. Donald Medina: S Right. Yes. This is it. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: Well, I'm going to tell you something about functional requirements. Robert Fitzsimmons: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: Um to start with these points. Uh next sheet? Um at first I tell you something about what people dislike about the current uh controls, because it's uh a smart thing to exclude those things. Uh, furthermore it's very important what they do like and what they do use. Um then I tell something about um the most important issues. So we have to focus on those three thing three things. And in the end I'll um show you our target audience or our target product users, customers. Well, um the first findings are that people um think most controls are very kind of ug ugly. That's seventy five per cent of the current users. They don't like it, so we might think about fronts in that section. Um They also say, that's about uh I thought it was fifty per cent, uh that more money will be spent on uh better looking controls. So it's very important that you design a a nice looking control. Um the current user uses his machine just about well all of the time for a few functions. Uh, almost every user uses it d the the control for just ten per cent of its capacity. So it's really important to make the the buttons for the common uh tasks kind of big or kind of uh flashy. Furthermore, it's uh seventy five per cent of the users uh zaps a lot. Thus it might be uh might be smart to make a a big uh zapping button or something in the middle, so you can reach it with your thumb. Robert Westphal: You can Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: zap away. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: yeah right. Right. A lot of losers um users lose their controls in their in their living room. So it might be sensible to make some kind of a button on your television, that's your um your control beeps or something, that you can find Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: this very easily. I dunno, maybe that's Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: an idea. 'Cause it's Robert Westphal: Oh. Donald Medina: uh a big I think fifty per cent of the users loses his its control, Robert Westphal: Oh? Robert Fitzsimmons: It should Donald Medina: within the Robert Fitzsimmons: actually Donald Medina: same room. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh It Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: should actually be loose from the television, because it can also be used for other televisions. So if you deliver a small uh click-on device that you can put on your television, that bleeps to your remote control, Donald Medina: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: everyone Donald Medina: but what Robert Fitzsimmons: can Donald Medina: if Robert Fitzsimmons: use Donald Medina: you lose Robert Fitzsimmons: it. Donald Medina: your click-on device? Robert Fitzsimmons: No you can click it on your television. Donald Medina: Yeah but if someone d somebody else uses it in ano other room or something? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah in another room, yeah. Donald Medina: Nee Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: but it it specifically Robert Fitzsimmons: yes. Donald Medina: says it's uh the the control is lost in the same room. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: So Well a beeping Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: device would Robert Fitzsimmons: we'll Donald Medina: be Robert Fitzsimmons: have a look at it, yeah. Donald Medina: Uh furthermore the learning time is a problem. Uh thirty four thirty four per cent um thinks it's it's too uh too difficult to learn. So the the learning curve should be very short uh for the dumbest people should be able to use it. Robert Westphal: I think our uh user uh expert should also consider manual a manual for the remote, of course. Donald Medina: Yeah Robert Westphal: Uh Donald Medina: but people don't read manuals. Robert Westphal: I didn't read it? Oh, Donald Medina: No. Jerry Schuchart: No. Robert Westphal: alright. users to uh add one? Do you think? Jerry Schuchart: I don't think Donald Medina: I think you should put more time in the in the design of uh Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: pick up and use, Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Jerry Schuchart: Yes Donald Medina: than Jerry Schuchart: you should Donald Medina: a manual. Jerry Schuchart: You should Robert Westphal: Yeah alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Jerry Schuchart: could take Robert Westphal: Because Jerry Schuchart: a look at Robert Westphal: they don't Jerry Schuchart: it Robert Westphal: use Jerry Schuchart: and Robert Westphal: it? Jerry Schuchart: and Robert Westphal: Alright. Jerry Schuchart: and know how it how it's supposed to work. Donald Medina: Yeah. Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: but it c Donald Medina: And Robert Fitzsimmons: can Donald Medina: it should Robert Fitzsimmons: be very Donald Medina: be consistent Robert Fitzsimmons: short. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah but Donald Medina: with consistent Jerry Schuchart: nobody reads Donald Medina: with older Jerry Schuchart: a manual Donald Medina: remotes. Jerry Schuchart: about a remote control, I think. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes okay. Robert Westphal: Well maybe for Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Westphal: the If you don't recognise a button who d who d who do I call uh wh Jerry Schuchart: Yeah right. Robert Westphal: when I don't Jerry Schuchart: It sh it Robert Westphal: know Jerry Schuchart: should Robert Westphal: it? Jerry Schuchart: be there, the manual. But but not to how the remote. Only Donald Medina: And we don't have much time. So it's better to uh put our attention to the the design. So you can pick up and use it, than Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: I Robert Fitzsimmons: we Donald Medina: think. Robert Fitzsimmons: are a design Jerry Schuchart: Hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: team, we can say to some uh writer uh make a manual Donald Medina: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: point. Donald Medina: right, Robert Westphal: Isn't it Donald Medina: right. Robert Westphal: part of Robert Fitzsimmons: So Robert Westphal: the of the u No. No. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: Never mind. Robert Fitzsimmons: we'll have a look. Donald Medina: Next Robert Fitzsimmons: Um Donald Medina: point. Robert Fitzsimmons: yes? Donald Medina: Um R_S_I_. Well that's about twenty per cent I thought. But uh the designer should uh take it uh should uh Wie zeg Robert Westphal: Consider Donald Medina: ik dat? Robert Westphal: the m Donald Medina: Yeah, consider the consequences of using your remote. It Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: should be a good in your hand. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Donald Medina: Right, this is the most important part. Um, we're Like the requirements said, we're gonna specify of we're gonna target a younger audience. Um, that's about sixty per cent of the market, so it's uh quite important. Um research shows that they like to have a little L_C_D_ screen on their on their uh zapping uh device. Uh I Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: thought it was the age between sixteen and twenty, ninety nine per cent of uh the people like that. So it's very important we should definitely have that in our uh designs. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well with twelve Euro fifty as production cost, we can't Robert Westphal: It's Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Robert Westphal: going Robert Fitzsimmons: afford Robert Westphal: to be expensive. Robert Fitzsimmons: an Jerry Schuchart: No. Robert Fitzsimmons: L_C_D_ Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: Yeah but they think it's really important. So if Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: we want to s If we have a big If we make lots of uh of the stuff, maybe we can uh buy it very cheap, I dunno. We have to uh Robert Westphal: Well we'll Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: uh consider it uh. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah well uh it's Robert Westphal: We'll Robert Fitzsimmons: your Robert Westphal: think abo Robert Fitzsimmons: your task Robert Westphal: we'll think Robert Fitzsimmons: to uh look into the costs uh of Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: those uh Donald Medina: I don't know. I don't have any information on Robert Fitzsimmons: Nigh Donald Medina: that. So Robert Westphal: No, we'll Robert Fitzsimmons: I Robert Westphal: look Robert Fitzsimmons: know. Robert Westphal: we'll look into that later. Donald Medina: Right. Robert Westphal: Alright? Donald Medina: And uh another thing is uh speech uh recognition. They also like that, but research is very uh costly. Jerry Schuchart: I Donald Medina: So Jerry Schuchart: think that's uh difficult to realise also. Donald Medina: Yeah, but it it might be important for Robert Westphal: We Donald Medina: the sale. Robert Westphal: have very demanding clients. Robert Fitzsimmons: It's not yet a standard uh development uh those Jerry Schuchart: No and we have Robert Fitzsimmons: so Jerry Schuchart: customers in multiple Robert Fitzsimmons: We Donald Medina: think Robert Fitzsimmons: sh Jerry Schuchart: uh Donald Medina: L_C_D_ is Jerry Schuchart: countries Donald Medina: more Jerry Schuchart: I think. Donald Medina: reachable than the speech Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah Donald Medina: recognition. Robert Fitzsimmons: absolutely. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: So we might consider L_C_D_ screens. Robert Westphal: Yeah, yeah, alright. Well Jerry Schuchart: No. Robert Westphal: we'll consider both and and see what uh what what we can find, I think. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Robert Westphal: We don't rule them out uh yet. Robert Fitzsimmons: 'Kay. Donald Medina: Alright. Um, I think that's it. Um Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright. Donald Medina: I think it is sensible to u uh to take this take these points into the notes. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: So you can Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well you I c I can uh still see your presentation. Donald Medina: Yeah. Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: It's in the Well uh next um I dunno who is next. You uh got uh Robert Westphal: Shall I give Jerry Schuchart: Oh Robert Westphal: a Jerry Schuchart: you Robert Westphal: technical Jerry Schuchart: go. Robert Westphal: talk? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well go ahead. Robert Westphal: Well uh it is my task to uh explain uh or to point out a working design. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yip. Robert Westphal: We have that here. Okay, how do you enlarge it, so that Robert Fitzsimmons: F_ Robert Westphal: you can Robert Fitzsimmons: five. Robert Westphal: have the F_ F_ five. Robert Fitzsimmons: F_ five. Robert Westphal: Yep. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Westphal: Well, the working design, that's my uh Donald Medina: Next button. Robert Westphal: Well alright uh, you know who I am and what I do. So uh we have this. It's a bit uh unclear because I wanted to copy paste something. It Donald Medina: Oh Robert Westphal: was Donald Medina: right. Robert Westphal: originally in black and white but it became black and Donald Medina: Purple. Robert Westphal: purple. But I think you can read it. Donald Medina: Yeah, yeah, Robert Westphal: Um Donald Medina: yeah. A bit. Robert Westphal: well um I think it's important uh for you to realise the basic function of a remote control. Uh well you can see uh Donald Medina: Maybe you can select it. So it uh inverts. Robert Westphal: And I then can select I can select on the Donald Medina: the Robert Westphal: dings It Donald Medina: p the Robert Westphal: goes Donald Medina: whole Robert Westphal: to the next Donald Medina: picture. Robert Westphal: page. Donald Medina: Nah, uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Click. Donald Medina: never mind. Robert Westphal: Well, you can read it, it's not Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Robert Westphal: too difficult. Jerry Schuchart: go Robert Westphal: Meanwhile, Jerry Schuchart: ahead. Robert Westphal: this is a schematic uh um view of uh how a basic remote control works. You have uh basically uh the energy, the power of the of the remote control, uh and the sender, w which is the LED, the the the the the the the the the bulb that sends the the infrared Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Westphal: beam to the, no, to the set. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Westphal: And uh the source is of course the user. Uh the user interface is um uh the the the buttons of course. And the the user interface sends uh the the different signals of the different buttons to the chip, and the chip uh sends it to the LED, and the LED sends it to the receiver. That's the that's the basic Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Robert Westphal: idea. Very basic. Um well I have uh uh put it in a in in in a a couple of basic steps. Uh the remote uh is basically just waiting for a user to press a key. It does nothing until uh of course uh the key is pressed. The key a signal to a chip, uh the chip senses the connection. uh and recognise the key. So well you understand. The chip uh produces Morse code, um a specific code to indicate that specific button that is pressed, of course. And it uses transistors in the in the remote control to amplify and to send uh that signal again to the to the LED, which is the bulb, of course. Now the LED produces an infrared beam and signals the, well it's uh very simple, and signals the Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: uh signals to the sensor on the T_V_ set, and the T_V_ set uh also recognises the the the signal, and performs the assigned task. Robert Fitzsimmons: So it is also why we have to have a button that says uh I'm now busy with a D_V_D_ uh if we had done that. And a Robert Westphal: Ah Robert Fitzsimmons: button Robert Westphal: bu Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: for Robert Westphal: but we don't. Robert Fitzsimmons: T_V_. Robert Westphal: Uh we No Robert Fitzsimmons: So Robert Westphal: no, but Yeah. Exactly. Uh well this is uh the basic uh function of a remote. I've some couple of pictures here. It's a very basic one. And uh if we if we're going to add an uh an uh L_C_D_ screen to it, it uh won't look anything like this, but This is very basic uh basically the the shape of um of a remote control. It has uh very little buttons and But it it uh it's it's quite um Yeah, you can easily recognise the buttons. They're uh far enough apart and an anything. It's not very um Jerry Schuchart: High Robert Westphal: uh Jerry Schuchart: tech. Robert Westphal: not very high-tech uh indeed, and it's not very user-friendly. So we have to uh change a little bit uh to that, uh so that uh it becomes more user-friendly, and that uh problems like uh R_S_I_ and uh those kinds Donald Medina: Right. Robert Westphal: of thing don't don't Donald Medina: Can I say Robert Westphal: oc Donald Medina: something? Robert Westphal: don't occur. Yeah. Donald Medina: Um I have a table here about uh the l the relevance of the buttons. Uh the power button is used very much, channel selection, volume and teletext. Well teletext is not an option, Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: so that uh But I think it's very important to make um the power, channel and volume buttons uh near to the thumb, so you can't have R_S_I_ uh consequences. Robert Westphal: Yeah, because they are the the most important buttons Donald Medina: Right. Robert Westphal: and you can Donald Medina: Make Robert Westphal: immediately Donald Medina: them big, make them easy to uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: to press. Robert Westphal: You Jerry Schuchart: You Robert Westphal: don't Robert Fitzsimmons: but Jerry Schuchart: can Robert Westphal: have Jerry Schuchart: also Robert Westphal: to look and Robert Fitzsimmons: but Robert Westphal: and Jerry Schuchart: like Robert Westphal: search for them. Robert Fitzsimmons: if you have Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: um the most used buttons all in one place, and you keep making the same um well moves. Donald Medina: Yeah, Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Donald Medina: right. Jerry Schuchart: I was Robert Fitzsimmons: But Jerry Schuchart: thinking Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: if Jerry Schuchart: you Robert Fitzsimmons: y if Jerry Schuchart: can Robert Fitzsimmons: you would put it at a different place, then you have to move your hands, and that's Donald Medina: Yeah, Jerry Schuchart: Are Robert Fitzsimmons: on Donald Medina: that's Jerry Schuchart: some Robert Fitzsimmons: of Donald Medina: right. Robert Fitzsimmons: the things Jerry Schuchart: of the Robert Fitzsimmons: about R_S_I_. Donald Medina: That's right. Jerry Schuchart: the Donald Medina: That's right. Robert Westphal: Well Jerry Schuchart: the Robert Westphal: you Jerry Schuchart: um Donald Medina: We Robert Westphal: you can't have any uh every button under the thumb, of course. Robert Fitzsimmons: No but the most Donald Medina: But Robert Fitzsimmons: important buttons m maybe you can just put them a bit apart Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: so you would Donald Medina: That's very important. And Robert Fitzsimmons: reject R_ R_S_I_ R_S_I_. Jerry Schuchart: Maybe you can make, for for channel changing, two little buttons on the side of the remote, so you can just do like this. Like Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes Jerry Schuchart: some Robert Fitzsimmons: I've saw Jerry Schuchart: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: that on m on mi mobile telephones Jerry Schuchart: little Robert Fitzsimmons: they also Jerry Schuchart: uh Donald Medina: But Robert Fitzsimmons: have Donald Medina: is Jerry Schuchart: Gameboy Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: that Robert Fitzsimmons: those Donald Medina: is Jerry Schuchart: things Robert Fitzsimmons: buttons. Donald Medina: that useable? Jerry Schuchart: or some Hmm? Donald Medina: Do people, uh when they pick up a remote, know that they have to do that? It's Jerry Schuchart: Well Donald Medina: a f it's a new feature, Robert Fitzsimmons: Well it Donald Medina: you Robert Fitzsimmons: it's Donald Medina: can Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: make make Jerry Schuchart: Yeah alright, Donald Medina: a double Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: feature l like a button on the top and under Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Donald Medina: it. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Jerry Schuchart: but Robert Fitzsimmons: also i Jerry Schuchart: if Robert Fitzsimmons: if Jerry Schuchart: you s Robert Fitzsimmons: someone Jerry Schuchart: say Robert Fitzsimmons: puts Jerry Schuchart: them Robert Fitzsimmons: picks Jerry Schuchart: up Robert Fitzsimmons: up Jerry Schuchart: and down, Robert Fitzsimmons: his uh Jerry Schuchart: they they'll Robert Fitzsimmons: remote Jerry Schuchart: understand it, I think. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Eighty Robert Westphal: Well, Jerry Schuchart: per cent would. Robert Fitzsimmons: If someone puts up i uh picks up his remote, and he picks up it he he touches the side then Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: he's a already Donald Medina: he feels Robert Fitzsimmons: on the next Donald Medina: it immediately. Robert Fitzsimmons: channel. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: That's Jerry Schuchart: that's Robert Fitzsimmons: very Jerry Schuchart: true. Robert Fitzsimmons: irritating, Donald Medina: Yeah, that's right. Robert Fitzsimmons: I think. Donald Medina: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: Well. Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: Right, continue. Sorry. Robert Westphal: But in e in any case the Robert Fitzsimmons: No. Robert Westphal: the basic function should be uh indeed, and as you say at the thumb. I think that's a good idea, and uh and that the less important uh buttons, like the the the different channels, uh the numbers one two three four five as well, should be uh yeah well not in reach, because uh they don't use it uh all the time. Well it's uh pretty pretty Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Robert Westphal: basically uh as you said. And I have some pictures of the inside workings, but uh I don't want to get too technical, because Robert Fitzsimmons: Mm-hmm. Robert Westphal: uh that's not uh very uh Donald Medina: Yeah, that's Robert Westphal: useful Donald Medina: right. Robert Fitzsimmons: That's Robert Westphal: for Robert Fitzsimmons: your Robert Westphal: you. Robert Fitzsimmons: part of the job. Robert Westphal: So yeah exactly this is uh how it uh looks from the inside. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Robert Westphal: And uh well that's about it I think. Oh yeah, I still have this. Oh I had to delete this, but I had to make a schematic Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Westphal: uh of the of the new But I had too Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Robert Westphal: too little time, but uh don't uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: don't look at it please. Donald Medina: Alright. Robert Westphal: I I think Robert Fitzsimmons: we understand. Robert Westphal: it's it's clear uh Robert Fitzsimmons: We understand. Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: how Donald Medina: it's Robert Westphal: it Donald Medina: clear. Robert Westphal: works. Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh right, Robert Westphal: That's Robert Fitzsimmons: no. Robert Westphal: the most important thing. Robert Fitzsimmons: Nice. Robert Westphal: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Then Robert Westphal: Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Mike can uh give the third presentation. How Robert Westphal: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: late is did we start his presentation Donald Medina: I dunno. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh? Donald Medina: I think uh w About Robert Fitzsimmons: Wha Donald Medina: twenty minutes ago? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Well Donald Medina: Losing time losing Robert Fitzsimmons: then we Donald Medina: time. Robert Fitzsimmons: have still the time, so But we do have to come to a decision, Donald Medina: Yeah right. Robert Fitzsimmons: right Donald Medina: So Robert Fitzsimmons: later on. So Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Well I thought um everybody on the website uh would see the same thing, but Donald Medina: I don't think Jerry Schuchart: obviously Donald Medina: so. Jerry Schuchart: that's not the case. Robert Westphal: Yeah, uh there are different uh We have all have different home pages, Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh yeah? Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Westphal: with different links. Yeah. Donald Medina: Yeah right. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh? Jerry Schuchart: For instance you couldn't see this. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay, yeah well. Jerry Schuchart: Um Yeah. Well I'm Mike, User Interface Robert Fitzsimmons: Mm-hmm. Jerry Schuchart: Designer. The the method? Well I used my own experience with remotes, took a good l look uh at the remotes on the corporate website, which are these two. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Um Donald Medina: These are already in use? Jerry Schuchart: Yes, these are from from another uh manufacturer. Donald Medina: Alright, Jerry Schuchart: Um Donald Medina: okay. Jerry Schuchart: This one is engineering-centred, so this one has the most functions and um things. This one is user-centred. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Jerry Schuchart: Um Donald Medina: Well Robert Fitzsimmons: I like user-centred. Donald Medina: Yeah, Donald Medina too. Jerry Schuchart: I like user-centr centred Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: uh uh also the best. Robert Fitzsimmons: We also do that. Jerry Schuchart: Um Well, I thought uh that we uh reduce the the option to control the D_V_D_ also, and teletext and that kind of stuff. Donald Medina: Mm. Jerry Schuchart: Uh so I thought we we we would use more or need more buttons than this one. Donald Medina: But we have to reject Jerry Schuchart: But Donald Medina: that, because Jerry Schuchart: Yes. Donald Medina: of the requirements? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Th that's why this mm is not relevant any more I Donald Medina: Alright. Jerry Schuchart: feel. Um I think this is about the maximum number of buttons uh we'll need. Donald Medina: Yeah, right. Jerry Schuchart: I um I kinda like the shape. I think this is what we talked about. But Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Westphal: You can't really see uh the differ from different sides. But I think Jerry Schuchart: No Robert Westphal: uh Jerry Schuchart: I've Well I showed it somewhere. Um Robert Westphal: Uh you can draw it if you Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Oh yeah. I think we should go further with the idea of a removable front. So Robert Fitzsimmons: Mm-hmm. Jerry Schuchart: we can can uh yeah customise the Robert Fitzsimmons: Well absolutely, but i th they all have to have something about um the recognition from our company. So Jerry Schuchart: Mm? Robert Fitzsimmons: we cannot just uh Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: make someone Jerry Schuchart: It's a front. Robert Fitzsimmons: w Jerry Schuchart: It's not the the whole remote that changes, of Robert Fitzsimmons: No Jerry Schuchart: course. Robert Fitzsimmons: but Donald Medina: But Jerry Schuchart: You Robert Fitzsimmons: that's Donald Medina: it Jerry Schuchart: can Robert Fitzsimmons: th the side they look uh look at is the front. So if y if you make a a front with just a a tiger on it, then uh Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: our recognition is totally gone. Donald Medina: Yeah, that's right. Jerry Schuchart: Or you can you can can put the same symbol on on every Donald Medina: Yeah, Jerry Schuchart: remote. So Donald Medina: that's Jerry Schuchart: l Donald Medina: a must. Jerry Schuchart: like Donald Medina: We Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah, Donald Medina: must Jerry Schuchart: Ericsson Donald Medina: have Robert Westphal: We Donald Medina: that. Robert Westphal: can Robert Fitzsimmons: we Robert Westphal: put Robert Fitzsimmons: must. Jerry Schuchart: does Robert Westphal: it on the on the back side. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah Jerry Schuchart: every uh Robert Fitzsimmons: well and and Jerry Schuchart: S something like this. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Jerry Schuchart: It's recognisable. Robert Fitzsimmons: 'Kay. Donald Medina: We can Jerry Schuchart: Um Donald Medina: make a symbol of the company right here. And if you Jerry Schuchart: Yeah? Donald Medina: put a front on it, there's a hole on the front. So Robert Westphal: Yeah, Donald Medina: the symbol's Robert Westphal: so that Donald Medina: always Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Westphal: you Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah Jerry Schuchart: yeah. Robert Westphal: don't Robert Fitzsimmons: yeah Jerry Schuchart: Something Robert Westphal: replace Robert Fitzsimmons: yeah. Jerry Schuchart: like that, Robert Westphal: the symbol, Jerry Schuchart: in the Robert Westphal: yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Or Donald Medina: on Robert Fitzsimmons: the Donald Medina: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: th the the lowest part of the remote isn't changed Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: by the front. Donald Medina: yeah. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: But Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: let's Robert Fitzsimmons: Those Donald Medina: not Robert Fitzsimmons: kind Donald Medina: focus Robert Fitzsimmons: of things. Donald Medina: on the Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: front. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Jerry Schuchart: Um Well so uh uh like I said I thought we'd we'd use more function. If we we had to include more functions. But we don't. So um Robert Fitzsimmons: Mm-hmm. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: Alright. Jerry Schuchart: I think this is about the maximum number of buttons we need. Maybe some less. Like eject we don't need, and some other buttons we don't need. I think Robert Westphal: Mike, Jerry Schuchart: uh Robert Westphal: uh can you put uh that picture from Donald Medina on the in the Word documents file? Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Robert Westphal: In Map? Jerry Schuchart: I will. I think uh for the remote um uh less is more. The less buttons the better the design. Um Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: Yeah, Jerry Schuchart: We Donald Medina: I Jerry Schuchart: should Donald Medina: agree. Jerry Schuchart: go with that concept I think. I know. Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright. Donald Medina: I've I've got another point. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah? Donald Medina: Um there are two target audi audiences, and we've uh chose for the younger one. Um, Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Donald Medina: research has shown that um it's a high interested uh in features. They are high high interested in feature. But they are more critical. Fo Yeah, critical. Robert Westphal: The Donald Medina: So Robert Westphal: younger uh Donald Medina: The younger audience. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: So we must um must design uh a control that really speaks to the people. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well what if we um I at I at home have a remote that has um the most familiar uh buttons on the top, Donald Medina: Mm-hmm. Robert Fitzsimmons: and the bottom side of the front has a little clip, a f a little uh You can click away and then you have f much more functions that most people don't use but s some do do. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. I think uh the most functions uh underneath that uh Donald Medina: Clip aren't Robert Westphal: uh Donald Medina: used much. Robert Westphal: No um Robert Fitzsimmons: Well but Robert Westphal: mm Robert Fitzsimmons: because Robert Westphal: usually Robert Fitzsimmons: you say they their features are important, they want Donald Medina: Yeah right. Robert Fitzsimmons: m um Robert Westphal: But Robert Fitzsimmons: a lot, but not Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, but what kind of features? Robert Westphal: Yeah Jerry Schuchart: Like Robert Westphal: I think Jerry Schuchart: L_C_D_ screens Donald Medina: Yeah Jerry Schuchart: and Robert Westphal: m Donald Medina: but Robert Westphal: most Jerry Schuchart: voice recognition. Donald Medina: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: But I've Robert Westphal: Most Donald Medina: Here, look Robert Westphal: uh Donald Medina: at these numbers. The newest features are, like I said, are uh L_C_D_ and uh speech uh control. Our audience, these people, are very like these uh features. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: You see? So Robert Westphal: Uh. Donald Medina: we must build in something, or they will to uh go to the concurrent. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: The Robert Westphal: Our Robert Fitzsimmons: Competitors. Robert Westphal: competitor. Donald Medina: concurrent? Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: Competitors, right. So, I do think we have to uh have some features. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: Even though they Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: cost a little more. Robert Fitzsimmons: maybe w we could uh s On um some uh calculators you have lo those little little Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: L_C_D_ Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: th that you can click on or something, or that you can click uh out uh of the remote. And if if that's gives you a little bit of sta status Donald Medina: Like Robert Fitzsimmons: information. Donald Medina: a ticker-tape. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: Which programme you are l watching or something. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, that's nice. Robert Fitzsimmons: Those kind of things, uh because you also have those uh those program recognition for your V_ V_C_R_s. And uh Donald Medina: Yeah, right. Robert Fitzsimmons: well Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: if y Donald Medina: Yeah right. Robert Fitzsimmons: if your remote picks that up also, you they can display which programme you're currently watching. Robert Westphal: Yeah. So it it just signals the the different uh sig uh the different symbols on the screen Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: you have, uh because if you change to s channel two you have two on the screen and two on your on your um Robert Fitzsimmons: For example. Robert Westphal: on your L_C_D_ screen. Robert Fitzsimmons: It it could be such a little uh th that you can click in and out and you and you have it. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, we should keep that simple too. Robert Westphal: But should Jerry Schuchart: It Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: it uh really be Jerry Schuchart: will Robert Westphal: uh clickable, uh Donald Medina: No not Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: clickable. Robert Fitzsimmons: maybe. Jerry Schuchart: No, it Donald Medina: Nah, Robert Westphal: or Jerry Schuchart: should Donald Medina: no Jerry Schuchart: be Donald Medina: no no. Jerry Schuchart: uh integrated. I Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: or just Donald Medina: just Jerry Schuchart: think Robert Westphal: integrate Donald Medina: at Robert Westphal: inside to Donald Medina: at Robert Westphal: try to Donald Medina: the Robert Westphal: make Donald Medina: top. Robert Westphal: it d more trendy. Donald Medina: So when you s you sit like this you can can watch. I think Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: it Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Donald Medina: should be Jerry Schuchart: something Donald Medina: at the top. Jerry Schuchart: like on Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: um some radios in car. You Where it's, yeah, walking Donald Medina: Yeah right. Jerry Schuchart: to Donald Medina: It's Robert Fitzsimmons: R_D_S_s Donald Medina: a Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: or Donald Medina: ticker-tape Robert Fitzsimmons: something. Donald Medina: idea. Robert Westphal: But that's of course uh a bit more uh expensive than uh the basic uh calculator design, with the scrolling text and that kind of thing. Jerry Schuchart: Wa Donald Medina: Well it's just Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: one Robert Fitzsimmons: I Donald Medina: script. Robert Fitzsimmons: think it's you got Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: It just means it's a script that's uh keeps it uh rolling, and it's not uh That's five minutes off uh implementing Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: time Donald Medina: five Robert Fitzsimmons: I think Donald Medina: minutes Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: of ja ja for programming. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: So I don't think that's the issue. Robert Fitzsimmons: No. Robert Westphal: Alright. Donald Medina: Alright, we go with the L_C_D_ screen? Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh well I think so, yes. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Donald Medina: 'Kay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Um Jerry Schuchart: well we we we still need to know how much that will cost. Donald Medina: Right, I don't know if I can Robert Fitzsimmons: We're Donald Medina: find Robert Fitzsimmons: g Donald Medina: that, Robert Fitzsimmons: No but Donald Medina: but Robert Fitzsimmons: we're we'll Jerry Schuchart: Or Robert Fitzsimmons: have Jerry Schuchart: maybe Robert Fitzsimmons: to look into Jerry Schuchart: you will Robert Fitzsimmons: that. Jerry Schuchart: get that information uh Donald Medina: Next Robert Fitzsimmons: Um Donald Medina: time. Yeah right. Robert Fitzsimmons: we can use Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: this board again, I think. Uh we can put some um decisions about um the controls we want, th the issue. Where is my presentation? Uh Donald Medina: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Donald Medina: We should have a general idea of how it's gonna look. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well I mean we're all here now, I think. These I've already given you. So we have to decide on the different remote control functions. Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: So we want to have a small L_C_D_ screen Donald Medina: At the top. Robert Fitzsimmons: that's special. Robert Westphal: Shouldn't we start with the most important Jerry Schuchart: At Robert Westphal: parts? Jerry Schuchart: the top Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: The L_C_D_ Jerry Schuchart: or Robert Westphal: screen Jerry Schuchart: at the bottom? Robert Westphal: alright Donald Medina: I think Robert Westphal: but Donald Medina: the top Robert Westphal: we should Donald Medina: is more Robert Westphal: start Donald Medina: uh Robert Westphal: with the power button? Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: When Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Donald Medina: you s Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: How do you zap? You just sit in your chair? Robert Westphal: Huh? Donald Medina: With Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Donald Medina: the Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: remote? Jerry Schuchart: with with the L_C_D_ screen on the top it Robert Fitzsimmons: That Jerry Schuchart: gets Robert Fitzsimmons: thing is Jerry Schuchart: a bit Robert Fitzsimmons: terrible. Jerry Schuchart: unnatural. 'Cause most remotes have some space left at the bottom. Donald Medina: Yeah but that's where your hand ball might be. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Donald Medina: Yeah, Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Donald Medina: I dunno. Jerry Schuchart: no Mm. Robert Westphal: And then uh Donald Medina: We'll draw two, and then we'll see uh Robert Westphal: Maybe we should uh centralise the discussion here. I dunno what uh you were Donald Medina: No Robert Westphal: talking about but Donald Medina: Um he Robert Westphal: we Donald Medina: thinks Robert Westphal: are busy with something. Donald Medina: Yeah, right. He thinks it's better to put the L_C_D_ at the bottom, and I think it's better at the top. Robert Westphal: Uh-huh. Why Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: do you think it's better at the bottom? Jerry Schuchart: Uh well because most uh remotes have um some space left at the bottom, and that way you can keep the shape recognisable for Donald Medina: But Jerry Schuchart: everybody. Donald Medina: your Robert Westphal: But you Jerry Schuchart: I Robert Westphal: just Jerry Schuchart: c Robert Westphal: can put uh the the the the the whole interface a bit down, so that there's Donald Medina: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Well Robert Westphal: room Donald Medina: The Jerry Schuchart: I d Robert Westphal: for Jerry Schuchart: I think Robert Westphal: the for Jerry Schuchart: that's Donald Medina: the Robert Westphal: the interface. Donald Medina: ticker Jerry Schuchart: that's Donald Medina: The L_C_D_ Jerry Schuchart: ugly Donald Medina: is Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: like like small. It's it's wide. It's Robert Westphal: Uh-huh. Donald Medina: not not high. But Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: And and Robert Fitzsimmons: I th Robert Westphal: we Robert Fitzsimmons: I Robert Westphal: can Jerry Schuchart: I Robert Fitzsimmons: think Jerry Schuchart: th Robert Fitzsimmons: Mike Mike has a point, because Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: um Jerry Schuchart: Power Robert Fitzsimmons: when when Jerry Schuchart: button Robert Fitzsimmons: uh when I Jerry Schuchart: always Robert Fitzsimmons: use a remote Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: I l I hate the buttons but buttons at the at the Robert Westphal: Bottom. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: bottom. So and and Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: I Jerry Schuchart: y Robert Fitzsimmons: I like Jerry Schuchart: you Robert Fitzsimmons: to Jerry Schuchart: gotta Robert Fitzsimmons: use the Jerry Schuchart: zap Robert Fitzsimmons: ones Jerry Schuchart: like this or you want Robert Fitzsimmons: on the Jerry Schuchart: to Robert Fitzsimmons: top. So Donald Medina: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: when Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: right. Robert Fitzsimmons: I Donald Medina: But Robert Fitzsimmons: u when I have to have an L_C_D_ Robert Westphal: Well Robert Fitzsimmons: s scr Donald Medina: We're making Robert Fitzsimmons: window Robert Westphal: that's Donald Medina: a remote Robert Westphal: a Donald Medina: with Robert Westphal: bit exaggerated. Well, I agree with you. Donald Medina: with a few functions you know. Robert Westphal: It's Donald Medina: We Robert Westphal: it's also more recognisable. It looks more like a calculator to people, if you have the l the the Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes but we we we Robert Westphal: the Robert Fitzsimmons: we Robert Westphal: thing Robert Fitzsimmons: don't Robert Westphal: on top. Robert Fitzsimmons: want that. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah you don't want Robert Fitzsimmons: We don't Jerry Schuchart: You want Robert Fitzsimmons: want Jerry Schuchart: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: them to look Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: like a calculator. Jerry Schuchart: it Robert Fitzsimmons: We Jerry Schuchart: it Robert Fitzsimmons: want to Jerry Schuchart: it Robert Fitzsimmons: look Jerry Schuchart: must Robert Fitzsimmons: it Jerry Schuchart: be a remote. Robert Fitzsimmons: like our original Robert Westphal: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: but Robert Westphal: w Robert Fitzsimmons: familiar Robert Westphal: well, but uh you Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Westphal: don't have to throw uh um important aspe Donald Medina: High-tech. Robert Westphal: important aspect like familiarity Robert Fitzsimmons: Yea Robert Westphal: uh completely away, uh because Robert Fitzsimmons: Maybe Robert Westphal: I think Robert Fitzsimmons: a Robert Westphal: it's Robert Fitzsimmons: bic Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: uh better uh white uh We White? Robert Westphal: I think Donald Medina: Width. Robert Westphal: it's still important to Robert Fitzsimmons: Width. Robert Westphal: have it at the top, Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Robert Westphal: because it's Robert Fitzsimmons: format Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: yeah format? Line width? Width? Donald Medina: Th Robert Westphal: it's more familiar Donald Medina: that's not Robert Westphal: that Donald Medina: a problem. Robert Westphal: way. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah? Donald Medina: When I draw here it Oh. Huh? Robert Fitzsimmons: It's a bit off. Donald Medina: Yeah, it's off. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well. Robert Westphal: A little a little bit. Donald Medina: It it needs to be calibrated Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: again. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh let's Donald Medina: Well Robert Fitzsimmons: uh talk about that later uh Robert Westphal: Maybe you should another pen. Maybe that's uh better. Donald Medina: Where? Robert Westphal: You e you only have Robert Fitzsimmons: It's Robert Westphal: one pen Robert Fitzsimmons: special Robert Westphal: for that Robert Fitzsimmons: pen. Robert Westphal: screen. Yeah. Donald Medina: Alright, we have to make a decision now, because Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Donald Medina: we don't have much time. Robert Fitzsimmons: No. Donald Medina: Um I think we have uh a few functions, and we can put uh the L_C_D_ above it, and still have lots of room at the bottom, Robert Westphal: Yeah. I Donald Medina: where you can put Robert Westphal: I Donald Medina: your Robert Westphal: agree. Donald Medina: hand. Robert Fitzsimmons: I think it should be at the button, bottom. Robert Westphal: Well Jerry Schuchart: At the bottom? Robert Westphal: I'm Robert Fitzsimmons: Bottom. Robert Westphal: the I I'm the designer, Robert Fitzsimmons: The L_C_D_. Robert Westphal: so um Jerry Schuchart: In a Donald Medina: At Jerry Schuchart: few Donald Medina: the Jerry Schuchart: minutes Donald Medina: bot Jerry Schuchart: Oh yeah, oh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: yeah, I totally Donald Medina: So Jerry Schuchart: agree. Yeah. Donald Medina: We are two uh V_S_ two. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well but uh what what if we we Jerry Schuchart: He's Robert Fitzsimmons: first Jerry Schuchart: the boss. Robert Fitzsimmons: decide the different functions, Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: and then Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: look at the Donald Medina: Great. Robert Fitzsimmons: design. Robert Westphal: Uh we uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Because Robert Westphal: we Robert Fitzsimmons: we Robert Westphal: were Robert Fitzsimmons: have to Robert Westphal: busy Robert Fitzsimmons: decide Robert Westphal: with that. Robert Fitzsimmons: this. Robert Westphal: Uh yeah we should uh summon the Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: the different uh aspects of the thing. So, we have the power button. Donald Medina: And moreover I think that you two should be uh come to consensus about the L_C_D_ Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: s. It's uh your it's your job. Robert Westphal: Yeah of course. Uh it's uh. Jerry Schuchart: No Robert Westphal: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: it's Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: W Jerry Schuchart: our Robert Fitzsimmons: we have Jerry Schuchart: job. Robert Westphal: wh Robert Fitzsimmons: a power button. Guys? Robert Westphal: While you have to agree, I Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: can say Donald Medina: right. Robert Westphal: it's like this and Robert Fitzsimmons: Guys? Donald Medina: Alright, Robert Westphal: you must agree. Donald Medina: let's Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: keep Robert Fitzsimmons: We Donald Medina: it Robert Fitzsimmons: have Donald Medina: central. Robert Fitzsimmons: a power button, setting buttons, L_C_D_ window, Jerry Schuchart: The ten Robert Fitzsimmons: the number Jerry Schuchart: numbers? Robert Fitzsimmons: buttons Jerry Schuchart: Yeah? Robert Westphal: Channel, yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Jerry Schuchart: Volume? Robert Westphal: Volume control. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: Um Donald Medina: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh Robert Westphal: Well let's look at your uh design. Robert Fitzsimmons: the mute Robert Westphal: Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: button. I h love that one. Robert Westphal: Uh-huh. Jerry Schuchart: I think we we should use something like this um to um The the channel up and channel down button? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, in circle, you know? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Well Jerry Schuchart: And Robert Fitzsimmons: that's Jerry Schuchart: and Robert Fitzsimmons: that's Jerry Schuchart: a Robert Fitzsimmons: also Jerry Schuchart: volume Robert Fitzsimmons: design. Jerry Schuchart: control also Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Jerry Schuchart: in it. Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: Um Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: But Robert Fitzsimmons: h Robert Westphal: th Robert Fitzsimmons: ho Robert Westphal: th on this remote th these controls are for something else, a D_V_D_ Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: player or Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: something. Jerry Schuchart: Yes, Robert Fitzsimmons: They Robert Westphal: So Robert Fitzsimmons: are Jerry Schuchart: as Robert Fitzsimmons: for some Jerry Schuchart: I Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Jerry Schuchart: already Robert Fitzsimmons: video Jerry Schuchart: said, Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Jerry Schuchart: we could drop some of these buttons. Donald Medina: You should put that uh power button, channel and volume should have the most uh importance. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. I think these should be in one big circle in the middle. Donald Medina: Yeah, but what he said about R_S_I_ was t kinda true. When when you uh put them all in the same place, the most used buttons, you're doing the same thing all the time, and that's just what R_S_I_'s all about. So it might be smarter to put them a little more Robert Fitzsimmons: Apart. Donald Medina: away from each other. Robert Fitzsimmons: So people have to move their hand. And they get less uh complaints of R_S_I_. Robert Westphal: Yeah, it's it's also not good to completely stay in one position constantly with one hand. Y Robert Fitzsimmons: That's what I always do, because Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: all my i important buttons Robert Westphal: It's Robert Fitzsimmons: are the Robert Westphal: good Robert Fitzsimmons: same Robert Westphal: to move Robert Fitzsimmons: place. Robert Westphal: uh from time to time. Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Donald Medina: Um Jerry Schuchart: but Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes? Jerry Schuchart: people don't like it when their buttons are all over the place. They Robert Westphal: No Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: but Robert Fitzsimmons: not Jerry Schuchart: they need Robert Westphal: now Jerry Schuchart: to Robert Westphal: y Jerry Schuchart: be centred. Robert Westphal: W would we have to choose a Donald Medina: Frequency Robert Westphal: way Donald Medina: of Robert Westphal: in middle? Donald Medina: uh button use. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: Um channels are uh most uh is most used within the hour. Robert Fitzsimmons: Uh-huh. Jerry Schuchart: Volume Donald Medina: You Jerry Schuchart: hardly. Donald Medina: can see. So the the channel uh channel buttons should Robert Westphal: Mm-hmm. Donald Medina: be far far apart, I think, up and down. Jerry Schuchart: No I don't think. Robert Westphal: Oh. Robert Fitzsimmons: Up Robert Westphal: Far Robert Fitzsimmons: and Robert Westphal: apart? Robert Fitzsimmons: down far apart from each other? Donald Medina: You thinking uh about Jerry Schuchart: Yeah but Donald Medina: R_S_I_? Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Jerry Schuchart: but Donald Medina: Y Robert Fitzsimmons: not Donald Medina: look Robert Fitzsimmons: too Donald Medina: at Robert Fitzsimmons: much. Donald Medina: uh look Jerry Schuchart: No. Donald Medina: at the frequency. Nei not too much, but Jerry Schuchart: The other the other two uh frustrations are far more important. So Robert Westphal: I think you can have the two buttons of up and down close together, but you don't have uh have to have volume control Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: and Robert Fitzsimmons: for example Robert Westphal: and Robert Fitzsimmons: the power Robert Westphal: zapping button Robert Fitzsimmons: button, Robert Westphal: close together. Robert Fitzsimmons: you can Jerry Schuchart: Well they are used four times Robert Fitzsimmons: If someone Jerry Schuchart: an hour, Robert Fitzsimmons: is Jerry Schuchart: so Robert Fitzsimmons: constantly z zapping, it's not going to miss, that it that the power button is not right beside it. Because I Donald Medina: Nei Robert Fitzsimmons: have Donald Medina: nei nei Robert Fitzsimmons: someone Donald Medina: n I I Robert Fitzsimmons: But Donald Medina: totally Robert Fitzsimmons: the buttons Donald Medina: agree. Robert Fitzsimmons: is way. So Donald Medina: But Robert Fitzsimmons: that one Donald Medina: just Robert Fitzsimmons: can be put away. Donald Medina: Yeah. Right. Yeah. I Robert Fitzsimmons: The power Donald Medina: agree. Robert Fitzsimmons: button can uh be uh uh Jerry Schuchart: Power bu button should be left at the top. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: And should and should be red. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh man, five minutes. Yeah, well Donald Medina: Right, Robert Fitzsimmons: five minutes left. Donald Medina: just make some decisions. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yep. Donald Medina: The most important things we have to uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Um how are we going to do it Robert Westphal: C c Robert Fitzsimmons: with Robert Westphal: can you Robert Fitzsimmons: those Robert Westphal: make you Robert Fitzsimmons: numbers? Robert Westphal: make We can use uh the drawing board now, I think. Uh it it doesn't work well but But it it Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: would be Robert Fitzsimmons: I have Robert Westphal: pretty Robert Fitzsimmons: it here. Robert Westphal: pretty uh nice if we could just draw a simple Donald Medina: I do Robert Westphal: thing. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah Donald Medina: think you Robert Fitzsimmons: well Donald Medina: have Robert Fitzsimmons: that's Donald Medina: to Robert Fitzsimmons: going Donald Medina: keep Robert Fitzsimmons: to take Donald Medina: you Robert Fitzsimmons: too Donald Medina: have Robert Fitzsimmons: too Donald Medina: to Robert Fitzsimmons: much Donald Medina: keep Robert Fitzsimmons: time. Donald Medina: it central now. Just Jerry Schuchart: Mm. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: uh Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Donald Medina: you decide that, you decide that, Robert Westphal: Mm. Donald Medina: and Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: Alright. Donald Medina: ready. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well the L_C_D_. Um you are Industrial, you are User Interface. So I think it's going to go to Mike. Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: But you will have to make consensus with. Well Jerry Schuchart: Well consensus, Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Jerry Schuchart: um Robert Fitzsimmons: it's a bit Donald Medina: Nei. Robert Fitzsimmons: hard, Jerry Schuchart: We we Robert Fitzsimmons: because Jerry Schuchart: can Robert Fitzsimmons: we Donald Medina: We're Jerry Schuchart: put Robert Fitzsimmons: are going Jerry Schuchart: it in Robert Fitzsimmons: to Jerry Schuchart: the Robert Fitzsimmons: be Jerry Schuchart: middle, Donald Medina: No Robert Fitzsimmons: uh individually. Jerry Schuchart: so Robert Fitzsimmons: That's a bit Donald Medina: We're Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: deciding now, Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: so Top or bottom? Robert Westphal: Well uh yeah I I still think it's it's quite important though to uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes it Robert Westphal: to Robert Fitzsimmons: is. Robert Westphal: have it at the top, so Yeah. You say familiarity isn't important but Robert Fitzsimmons: Well what if we're going to now decide about the functions, and the design comes into the next round? Donald Medina: Okay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Plus the d th Robert Westphal: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: the design Robert Westphal: d Robert Fitzsimmons: round is still to come huh? Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: right. Okay. Jerry Schuchart: Alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright these functions. Robert Westphal: As we we we Robert Fitzsimmons: The number Robert Westphal: we agreed, Robert Fitzsimmons: f Robert Westphal: we do Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: have a L_C_D_. Robert Fitzsimmons: yes, Robert Westphal: So Robert Fitzsimmons: that's alright. Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Westphal: that's Donald Medina: okay. Robert Fitzsimmons: W the number function. Robert Westphal: that's enough. Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Are we going to uh do it like uh on Mike's screen with uh one button that says I'm going to do a t two number digital? Jerry Schuchart: No. Robert Fitzsimmons: How do you want it to do then? Robert Westphal: There's Jerry Schuchart: Well Robert Westphal: one two Jerry Schuchart: just Robert Westphal: three four five Jerry Schuchart: when Robert Westphal: six Jerry Schuchart: you Robert Fitzsimmons: It Robert Westphal: six Robert Fitzsimmons: it has Jerry Schuchart: push Robert Westphal: seven Robert Fitzsimmons: to Jerry Schuchart: a Robert Westphal: eight Robert Fitzsimmons: r Robert Westphal: nine Robert Fitzsimmons: recognise Jerry Schuchart: one one Robert Westphal: zero. Jerry Schuchart: and Robert Fitzsimmons: one as there could still come more. Jerry Schuchart: No, if you Robert Westphal: Oh, Jerry Schuchart: On Robert Westphal: like that. Jerry Schuchart: most Robert Westphal: Um Jerry Schuchart: T_V_s if you uh press two numbers shortly after each other, Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: They'd recognise Jerry Schuchart: d it Yeah. Robert Westphal: it. Th Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright Robert Westphal: that's Robert Fitzsimmons: so Robert Westphal: the Robert Fitzsimmons: no Robert Westphal: most Robert Fitzsimmons: button for Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: that. Robert Westphal: That that's Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Westphal: very easy. Donald Medina: No. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay uh anyone any uh oth other functionalities of our uh remote? Robert Westphal: I think these are the the most important Donald Medina: Do Robert Westphal: functions. Donald Medina: you still have the pictures over there? Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: So Donald Medina: Yeah, that's about it. You do need the uh multi Or did uh No, like this one. You do need them? Robert Fitzsimmons: No, we'd Donald Medina: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: uh just said we Donald Medina: I Robert Fitzsimmons: didn't Donald Medina: know. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: But are we Alright, alright Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Donald Medina: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: Now okay. Robert Fitzsimmons: Um well because we can't integrate it with any other uh remotes, all those buttons on those pictures are uh irrelevant. Donald Medina: Right. Robert Fitzsimmons: So just for a television is that all we need? Donald Medina: Yeah, it's most useable this way. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Westphal: basic function. Robert Fitzsimmons: Teletext is gone. So all those buttons that ar are to do with teletext Oh screen placing. We'll have uh those uh buttons about uh And uh the two important ones we're l f forgetting. Uh there's um screen. You can make it wider and Donald Medina: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: less wide. And the button that you can go to A_V_ for your video. Donald Medina: Right. I do Robert Westphal: Oh yeah. Donald Medina: think we have to put that underneath a clip. Robert Fitzsimmons: Those two? But it's just two, Robert Westphal: Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: and we make Robert Westphal: just Robert Fitzsimmons: a clip? Robert Westphal: two just two under uh under Robert Fitzsimmons: Th that's Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: a Jerry Schuchart: We Robert Fitzsimmons: bit Jerry Schuchart: we Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Jerry Schuchart: can make Robert Fitzsimmons: waste. Jerry Schuchart: make uh a little row of like four buttons down here. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: Yeah. Okay, right. Robert Westphal: I Robert Fitzsimmons: Or Robert Westphal: I think Robert Fitzsimmons: at Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: the top. Your L_C_D_ screen is Jerry Schuchart: Or Robert Fitzsimmons: going Jerry Schuchart: at Robert Fitzsimmons: to go. Robert Westphal: But you you can Jerry Schuchart: Yeah Robert Westphal: put Jerry Schuchart: alright Robert Westphal: uh Jerry Schuchart: then. Robert Westphal: two or three buttons under uh another section. Uh that's that's too complicated. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: You can just put it somewhere They Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah Robert Westphal: they aren't used much, not as much as those other, so you Jerry Schuchart: Oh, Robert Westphal: can Jerry Schuchart: they Robert Westphal: put Jerry Schuchart: can Robert Westphal: it somewhere Jerry Schuchart: be small or round Robert Westphal: Yeah s Jerry Schuchart: like Robert Westphal: bit Jerry Schuchart: buttons. Robert Westphal: smaller and s Well uh and and I think more at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah or at the top, yeah. What do you think uh those those buttons? Above Robert Fitzsimmons: Well I Robert Westphal: or Robert Fitzsimmons: think they Robert Westphal: down? Robert Fitzsimmons: should in an in an isolated part of the remote. Robert Westphal: And w where? Well we design it later. We have it, and we design Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes? Robert Westphal: later where everything Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Robert Westphal: goes. Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Well any other uh Donald Medina: Well if you you Jerry Schuchart: Why go Donald Medina: take Jerry Schuchart: to Donald Medina: those Jerry Schuchart: video? Donald Medina: th If you Robert Fitzsimmons: Go to video, that's always on your remote control. Donald Medina: Yeah, but Robert Fitzsimmons: To Donald Medina: you can z Robert Fitzsimmons: A_V_ Donald Medina: you Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Donald Medina: can Robert Fitzsimmons: to Donald Medina: zap Robert Fitzsimmons: A_V_ Donald Medina: t Robert Westphal: The Donald Medina: you Robert Westphal: the video Donald Medina: can Robert Fitzsimmons: A_V_ Robert Westphal: channel Donald Medina: you Robert Westphal: uh? Donald Medina: can zap Robert Fitzsimmons: A_V_. Donald Medina: to the video channel Jerry Schuchart: That's Donald Medina: from Jerry Schuchart: just Donald Medina: zero Jerry Schuchart: zero. Donald Medina: to uh Jerry Schuchart: Yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Robert Westphal: No no Robert Fitzsimmons: l Robert Westphal: not Robert Fitzsimmons: n no Robert Westphal: always. Robert Fitzsimmons: not at not at Robert Westphal: Ze Robert Fitzsimmons: my remote. Robert Westphal: yeah zero is a different channel than uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: the Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Robert Westphal: the Jerry Schuchart: but Robert Westphal: video Jerry Schuchart: you can Robert Westphal: channel. Jerry Schuchart: can zap Donald Medina: Yeah, but Jerry Schuchart: down Donald Medina: when you zap down zero Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes. Donald Medina: you get to A_V_. Jerry Schuchart: Yes, I Robert Fitzsimmons: I Jerry Schuchart: think Robert Fitzsimmons: don't. Jerry Schuchart: th Robert Fitzsimmons: I go to ninety-nine. Jerry Schuchart: No, Donald Medina: Ah uh Jerry Schuchart: then Donald Medina: well Jerry Schuchart: you press ninety Donald Medina: whatever, Jerry Schuchart: nine. I think go to video is an Robert Fitzsimmons: Th Jerry Schuchart: irrelevant Robert Fitzsimmons: that's the button Jerry Schuchart: button, Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Jerry Schuchart: but Robert Fitzsimmons: No. Robert Westphal: But it's easy to go If you are at uh at channel uh fifty five and you want to uh go immediately to the video channel, you do you have to push a to Robert Fitzsimmons: No Robert Westphal: to get Robert Fitzsimmons: you can Robert Westphal: below Robert Fitzsimmons: ch push Robert Westphal: zero. Robert Fitzsimmons: zero. Robert Westphal: It's more Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah. Robert Westphal: easy to get to uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah, I I Robert Westphal: where the Robert Fitzsimmons: think Robert Westphal: specific uh Robert Fitzsimmons: that Robert Westphal: video Robert Fitzsimmons: one Robert Westphal: channel Robert Fitzsimmons: button Robert Westphal: button. Robert Fitzsimmons: is uh I use it uh Donald Medina: Yeah, but if we're choosing to uh incorporate these buttons, you have to have uh channel setting, if you wa if you have a new T_V_. You have Robert Fitzsimmons: Yeah? Donald Medina: to set the channels. Right all th these uh different buttons you Robert Fitzsimmons: These Donald Medina: have Robert Fitzsimmons: buttons, Donald Medina: to Robert Fitzsimmons: I don't have buttons for channel setting uh especially on my remote. Donald Medina: Ah, Robert Westphal: Yeah well Donald Medina: I do. Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: It's Robert Westphal: d Robert Fitzsimmons: it's Jerry Schuchart: Yeah well Robert Westphal: different Robert Fitzsimmons: incorporated Robert Westphal: screen settings Robert Fitzsimmons: with Jerry Schuchart: y you must Robert Fitzsimmons: p Jerry Schuchart: have. Robert Westphal: a Robert Fitzsimmons: m Robert Westphal: Yeah, sk Robert Fitzsimmons: plus and down, uh Robert Westphal: Yeah y Robert Fitzsimmons: those Robert Westphal: you you you Jerry Schuchart: Yeah you yeah Robert Westphal: you Jerry Schuchart: you have Robert Westphal: have Jerry Schuchart: one Robert Westphal: screen width. Jerry Schuchart: one button from s set frequency o or something, and then with plus and min minus you can uh adjust Donald Medina: Right. Jerry Schuchart: the uh Donald Medina: That's the only one we put uh in there. Robert Fitzsimmons: So we still have one uh four? Donald Medina: For a screen uh fu uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Ch Donald Medina: channel setting. Robert Fitzsimmons: ch Robert Westphal: Yeah to uh oh yeah of course to configure Donald Medina: Programme, Robert Westphal: the Donald Medina: right. Robert Westphal: programme Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Robert Westphal: the Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh the Okay button? Robert Westphal: Yeah. Donald Medina: Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Oh you always have in the centre an Okay button, Robert Westphal: Yeah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, alright. Robert Fitzsimmons: for your menu. Menu button. Robert Westphal: You should Yeah. I think that's important. Uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Channel, setting, menu. We Robert Westphal: And and the settings Robert Fitzsimmons: have Robert Westphal: to change the brightness Robert Fitzsimmons: to go. Robert Westphal: the settings to change the brightness and the contrast. Robert Fitzsimmons: Okay. Robert Westphal: Channel, yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: So um Robert Westphal: Chief? Robert Fitzsimmons: Save. Robert Westphal: Chief? Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes see. Robert Westphal: Th the menu menu button is also important. Then Robert Fitzsimmons: Yes Robert Westphal: you can Robert Fitzsimmons: I have Robert Westphal: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: put it in. Robert Westphal: Where? I don't see it. Robert Fitzsimmons: Here. Robert Westphal: Oh Menu, alright. Jerry Schuchart: I think things like uh contrast and brightness should be um Robert Westphal: In the menu. Jerry Schuchart: in the menu, Robert Westphal: And Jerry Schuchart: yeah. Robert Westphal: you can uh then adjust it with the zapping buttons or something. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, the Robert Westphal: Because uh Robert Fitzsimmons: Alright. Robert Westphal: the zapping buttons aren't Jerry Schuchart: Or Robert Westphal: used Jerry Schuchart: the volume Robert Westphal: then if you Jerry Schuchart: or Robert Westphal: are in Jerry Schuchart: something Robert Westphal: the menu. Jerry Schuchart: like Robert Fitzsimmons: Guys? Jerry Schuchart: that. Robert Westphal: Yeah. Or Robert Fitzsimmons: We're Robert Westphal: the Robert Fitzsimmons: going Robert Westphal: volume, Robert Fitzsimmons: to Robert Westphal: yeah. Robert Fitzsimmons: uh go to our uh rooms, and uh we'll Jerry Schuchart: Your pen. Robert Fitzsimmons: have to decide s Donald Medina: Ah. Robert Fitzsimmons: things on our own I think. Donald Medina: Great. Robert Fitzsimmons: So Robert Westphal: Yes chief. Donald Medina: Alright. Jerry Schuchart: I thought Robert Fitzsimmons: Well Jerry Schuchart: we'd Robert Fitzsimmons: see Jerry Schuchart: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: you Jerry Schuchart: lunch Robert Westphal: Yeah Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Robert Westphal: this Robert Fitzsimmons: W w Robert Westphal: is Jerry Schuchart: uh Robert Fitzsimmons: we Jerry Schuchart: right Robert Fitzsimmons: have lunchtime, Jerry Schuchart: now, Robert Westphal: this Jerry Schuchart: or Robert Westphal: is your Jerry Schuchart: not? Robert Westphal: thing. Robert Fitzsimmons: by the way, now Donald Medina: Ah. Jerry Schuchart: Yeah, Robert Fitzsimmons: uh so Donald Medina: Okay. Jerry Schuchart: lunch Robert Fitzsimmons: uh Jerry Schuchart: break. Robert Westphal: I am hungry. Robert Fitzsimmons: Lunch. Donald Medina: Get into my belly. Robert Fitzsimmons: Ah. We didn't exactly do everything Robert Westphal: See you later mate. Robert Fitzsimmons: but So	There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 30. It transpires that customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes, especially if they include LCD screens and speech recognition. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being difficult to learn and easy to lose. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The team agreed to follow a user-centred approach and simplify the design by somehow minimising the number of buttons. They plan to include an LCD screen to display relevant information. Other functions are served by push buttons: OK, menu, screen sizing, AV, settings buttons, mute, digits 1-9, power, volume control, channel up/down with the last three types being prominent on the device. The exact design and placement of the components will be decided in the next meeting.	3	amisum	train
Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Uh door is closed. Well, begin. Because Benjamin Lefler: I'm listening. Edward Sensabaugh: if we have as much time as the last uh meeting, Benjamin Lefler: Right. Edward Sensabaugh: we'll have to hurry up. Um well I'll start with the presentation again, Benjamin Lefler: Great. Edward Sensabaugh: the agenda. Yo. So. Uh This one I think. Uh yeah. Well alright. Um well, I'll show you the notes. It's not as uh interesting as it should be because we just uh had the meeting, but I'll show them. We'll get your presentations on the conceptual design. Um Then we'll have to dec decide about the control, the remote control concepts. Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edward Sensabaugh: I've put a f uh a file in the project management folder, which says exactly uh what kind of decisions we should take. So this time we exactly know what to decide about. Benjamin Lefler: Alright, great. Edward Sensabaugh: And then we'll close again. Joseph Johnson: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh Well these are some examples, but we'll talk about them later. We'll first look at your uh presentations. Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edward Sensabaugh: Alright? Walter will uh start again Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, great. Edward Sensabaugh: this time? Yo. Benjamin Lefler: Alright, Trendwatch. Edward Sensabaugh: 'Kay. Benjamin Lefler: Right. I will speak about uh latest trends trends, latest fashion updates, and uh things we must not do. Edward Sensabaugh: 'Kay. Benjamin Lefler: Uh the trends. It's very important that uh the control is fancy looking and good uh feeling. Uh this because of our last model was very functional, but it uh people didn't like that, so our new mo model must be very good-looking. That's uh uh have to Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm Benjamin Lefler: take a look at. Joseph Johnson: Alright. Benjamin Lefler: And uh the feeling has to be very great. Also the menus and things like that they have to they have to feel great. Joseph Johnson: Alright. Benjamin Lefler: Um there's a minus uh two times here, because this is the most important point. This is uh two times as less Edward Sensabaugh: Less. Benjamin Lefler: important, and uh same for this one. Um, technological technological innovations, that's uh regarded very highly too. Uh such as an uh L_C_D_ screen, uh speech uh acknowledgement, as we uh Edward Sensabaugh: Well, yeah. Benjamin Lefler: talked about earlier. So we have to have uh something like that, like we uh Edward Sensabaugh: L_C_D_ and our uh our fronts. Benjamin Lefler: Right. Uh the last point is easy to use. Well I think that uh speaks for s for itself. I don't know who's uh who's going to look at that. Joseph Johnson: Easy to use? Edward Sensabaugh: Well, Benjamin Lefler: Yeah? Edward Sensabaugh: easy Joseph Johnson: I think Edward Sensabaugh: to use Joseph Johnson: that's your Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: ta Edward Sensabaugh: s is a bit uh contradictionary with the first uh Functional is not an issue, Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: and Benjamin Lefler: I know. Edward Sensabaugh: then easy to use. Well we have to choose one of them. Benjamin Lefler: I think we have to go for the first Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: one. It's the most Joseph Johnson: Mm. Benjamin Lefler: important one. So we have to uh take that one. Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Benjamin Lefler: So it it it isn't very important that that it works easy. Marc Richardson: Well Benjamin Lefler: But Marc Richardson: something Benjamin Lefler: it Marc Richardson: fancy Benjamin Lefler: has Marc Richardson: looking Benjamin Lefler: to look Marc Richardson: can Benjamin Lefler: great. Marc Richardson: be can be easy to use. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. We'll we'll look at uh. Benjamin Lefler: We'll see. Joseph Johnson: You Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you can make a very complicated uh uh remote anyway, so ease Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: of use Benjamin Lefler: right. Joseph Johnson: It's not Benjamin Lefler: But Joseph Johnson: a very Benjamin Lefler: the most Joseph Johnson: comp Benjamin Lefler: important Joseph Johnson: complicated Benjamin Lefler: thing Joseph Johnson: device. Benjamin Lefler: is that it looks great and people say wow, that's real great uh great concept. Joseph Johnson: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: 'Kay. Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Uh these are the new colours of this year. So it must be very bright, very colourful. People like this. So we we have to think uh in this direction. So Edward Sensabaugh: So Benjamin Lefler: i set your mind to it. Edward Sensabaugh: Well Benjamin Lefler: Findings? Fashion update? Fruit and vegetables are cool. I am told. Joseph Johnson: Uh you Benjamin Lefler: The group Joseph Johnson: think? Benjamin Lefler: we are targeting is uh very pleased with fruit and vegetables. So we we we might cons consider in front of uh in in that sort of uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah, Benjamin Lefler: way. Edward Sensabaugh: well Marc Richardson: Bananas. Benjamin Lefler: Uh furthermore uh material, that's your part, should be very strong. I was thinking of something like uh well uh iron plate over it, maybe in a Joseph Johnson: Mm. Benjamin Lefler: colour or something, that Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: looks so f really flashy but it it is also strong. And Edward Sensabaugh: B Benjamin Lefler: that's uh also for the younger public. Edward Sensabaugh: Well the the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends e ev every year. Th this year it's fruits but next year it's it's Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: something Benjamin Lefler: that's Edward Sensabaugh: totally Benjamin Lefler: great. Edward Sensabaugh: different. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: But I think we can all make the the fronts of titanium or something uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Benjamin Lefler: really thin. So it looks very heavy but you can still uh use it very easily. Joseph Johnson: Mm. Edward Sensabaugh: Yep, alright. Benjamin Lefler: Well, the don'ts. Older people like dark colours and simple shapes. Well we don't want uh older people, we want young people. So uh we're gonna turn that around. We're Joseph Johnson: Alright. Benjamin Lefler: gonna have real uh cool shapes and lots of colours. Right? Edward Sensabaugh: Wood Benjamin Lefler: Okay. Edward Sensabaugh: is popular. Aha. Benjamin Lefler: We don't want wood. Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah Joseph Johnson: among the old Edward Sensabaugh: yeah Joseph Johnson: people, Edward Sensabaugh: yeah. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Old people. So, that's it for Benjamin Lefler. Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Nice, uh well show us. Joseph Johnson: Right, I am going to you the design Uh again I have uh put up the specification properties. This uh so um uh the different uh components of the of of the device. And the materials? Um I have heard several things, so I uh I'll have to change that on the way. But uh the case? Uh I suggested uh in the previous meeting hard plastic. But uh as you Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: indicated Benjamin Lefler: we should change Joseph Johnson: uh Benjamin Lefler: that. Joseph Johnson: it should be strong. It should feel strong. So maybe plastic is not uh sufficient. We should Edward Sensabaugh: Well Joseph Johnson: move Edward Sensabaugh: maybe Joseph Johnson: to uh Edward Sensabaugh: it Joseph Johnson: something Edward Sensabaugh: it it is, but it doesn't look strong. So maybe Joseph Johnson: Well yeah. Y Hard plastic i is of course uh pretty pretty tough, but it doesn't have a really really tough Benjamin Lefler: No no no. Joseph Johnson: look. Edward Sensabaugh: But we still Joseph Johnson: So Edward Sensabaugh: have to look at our price of course. Because Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: Also Edward Sensabaugh: if we Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: want an L_C_D_ uh window etcetera uh Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. But we'll return to that. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah? Joseph Johnson: Uh the buttons of course rubber, I think everyone agrees. And electrical cables, copper is all pretty basic stuff. The chips made of silicon, I guess. I think that's the best uh way to do it. And infra infrared l LED is uh just a simple bulb. Then I've uh had a few findings, made a few findings. Uh the target audience product style. Um it's uh um generally the case that uh senior and wealthy people above uh forty five years old uh like, as you said, uh particularly the traditional materials as such as wood and materials such as that. They also like straightforward shapes and luxurious style. But of course that's not our uh things this. So this is things we must not do. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Joseph Johnson: And then we have uh young uh and dynamic uh people, which is of course our uh group, the people we aim at. Um under forty five years old. Uh they like soft materials uh with primary colours. Soft materials is of course uh agai again a bit a contradiction with uh our uh material choice of what you said, that uh it should be hard an and and and and strong looking. Benjamin Lefler: Mm. Yeah. Joseph Johnson: But they like soft Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: materials, uh so we might uh we have to consider that. And also they like curved round shapes. So not uh too formal like like uh the older people want. And if uh also a finding but not very ap applicable here, that sports and gaming devices such as uh discmans for jogging and that those kind of devices, gaming devices, should define the characteristics of the device. But uh since we don't have a really a sports or gaming device, so we don't really have to consider that. Edward Sensabaugh: Sports uh, they're uh that uh are Marc Richardson: Soccer Edward Sensabaugh: accessible Marc Richardson: fronts. Edward Sensabaugh: on on your L_C_D_ uh window uh Marc Richardson: Mm. Edward Sensabaugh: Huh? Joseph Johnson: Mm. Edward Sensabaugh: That's nice. Marc Richardson: Hmm. Joseph Johnson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: All Joseph Johnson: I also Edward Sensabaugh: the Joseph Johnson: have Edward Sensabaugh: results? Joseph Johnson: um Benjamin Lefler: We keep coming back to the fronts. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: several examples of uh styles, so you can get a clear picture of uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: what I mean. Uh these are the basic uh older older peoples' stuff. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: It was not very uh interesting uh, very classical looking, but that's Edward Sensabaugh: Mm-hmm. Joseph Johnson: n that's not what we want. We have Marc Richardson: Hmm. Joseph Johnson: these kind of things. I don't know what exactly they are. It Edward Sensabaugh: Nai. Joseph Johnson: looks Edward Sensabaugh: Uh Joseph Johnson: like Well Edward Sensabaugh: no. Joseph Johnson: you know uh you recognise the shapes, it's very primary colours, uh bright colours and uh round shapes. You also uh see uh this device, it's not very round and Benjamin Lefler: Fruity. Joseph Johnson: Fruity of course. Benjamin Lefler: Fruity. Joseph Johnson: Yeah, it uh Edward Sensabaugh: It's t terrible. Joseph Johnson: That's true. Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Joseph Johnson: And uh well round shapes, primary colours. You can see it all here. And of course Edward Sensabaugh: Hmm? Joseph Johnson: uh this famous device. I think as you know something uh some Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: devices Edward Sensabaugh: alright. Joseph Johnson: like this. So Benjamin Lefler: Well Joseph Johnson: to give Benjamin Lefler: it's Joseph Johnson: you an idea Benjamin Lefler: got Joseph Johnson: of uh Benjamin Lefler: a strong look, this. Joseph Johnson: This has a strong look. Although Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: it's plastic, it's Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: it's Benjamin Lefler: it still Joseph Johnson: grey Benjamin Lefler: has a strong Joseph Johnson: to Benjamin Lefler: look. Joseph Johnson: to Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: to give it iron look. Edward Sensabaugh: And it's round. Joseph Johnson: That's uh Benjamin Lefler: But then you are losing your fruity colours. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Well we have to make Edward Sensabaugh: Well Joseph Johnson: a Edward Sensabaugh: you can make th th th that middle ring can you you can make another colour. Benjamin Lefler: That's true. Edward Sensabaugh: So uh those Joseph Johnson: Well we Edward Sensabaugh: kind Joseph Johnson: can't Edward Sensabaugh: of Joseph Johnson: really Edward Sensabaugh: things Joseph Johnson: make Edward Sensabaugh: you can Joseph Johnson: a round Edward Sensabaugh: you can combine. Joseph Johnson: uh a round remote control. I don't think that's very practical, but Edward Sensabaugh: No, it isn't. Joseph Johnson: But uh it's important to to uh to think about Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Joseph Johnson: the colour. Because if we make it grey or or silvery looking, it it does make it a lot more uh does make it looking a lot more stronger. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Joseph Johnson: 'Cause Benjamin Lefler: but Joseph Johnson: if you look at Benjamin Lefler: the Joseph Johnson: this, it it doesn't look very very strong, becau But this is plastic, Benjamin Lefler: But Joseph Johnson: and Benjamin Lefler: it Joseph Johnson: and Benjamin Lefler: doesn't Joseph Johnson: this too, Benjamin Lefler: have to Joseph Johnson: but Benjamin Lefler: look strong. The the results are, the feel of the material is expected to be strongy. Joseph Johnson: The feel? Benjamin Lefler: The Joseph Johnson: Uh Benjamin Lefler: feel. Joseph Johnson: alright. Well Edward Sensabaugh: So, if Marc Richardson: And Edward Sensabaugh: you Marc Richardson: it Edward Sensabaugh: ti Marc Richardson: it doesn't have to be strong, also. Edward Sensabaugh: Well Benjamin Lefler: Nah yeah the feel Edward Sensabaugh: You you Marc Richardson: Only the feel. Edward Sensabaugh: Maybe you should have uh some some coloured titanium or something. So it it looks pretty but it feels strong. Benjamin Lefler: Right. Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marc Richardson: Oh. Benjamin Lefler: I Joseph Johnson: And Benjamin Lefler: agree. Joseph Johnson: I Then I have some more findings. Um uh about the energy energy source of the of the device, uh I uh suggest uh the basic battery. I uh got some other um uh uh energy sources of course. But solar energy is not very practical inside a house, because you don't have a have a lot of uh sun. And uh kinetic and and and dynamos are are not very practical, I think, for uh for a simple remote, that's a bit, oh, that's a bit uh Edward Sensabaugh: No titanium. Joseph Johnson: That's a bit uh much. Uh the disadvantage of that that you can use no titanium. That that's the information I received. If you use the curved case, uh a curved case, double curved then you Edward Sensabaugh: What do you exactly Joseph Johnson: can't use titanium. Edward Sensabaugh: mean with double curved? Joseph Johnson: Now uh this uh to give it a more modern look. And uh now the the shape, yeah, a curved case. Um yeah I think uh sort of triangle-shaped bottom or something. Uh a more modern look not plain, long box style, but Edward Sensabaugh: Double curved? Benjamin Lefler: I dunno. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: It Joseph Johnson: I'll draw Edward Sensabaugh: it mean Joseph Johnson: it, but Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah, well Joseph Johnson: maybe Edward Sensabaugh: okay. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: later. And it makes uh it gives it a more u user friendly shape, than if you have uh. Um anyway Um f as uh for the buttons, simple push buttons. No uh otherwi uh no um difficult scroll things or some uh things like that, because it makes more complex and expensive. And, uh as we agreed, we don't use a speaker or a sensor or um uh speak uh speech uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah right. Joseph Johnson: controlled device. Because it makes it also more complex and expensive. But we do use an L_C_D_ screen, so we uh we do have to consider uh of we have to use a more advanced chip, which is more complex and expensive. But Edward Sensabaugh: Well Joseph Johnson: It's worth the trouble I think, Marc Richardson: The buttons Joseph Johnson: because Marc Richardson: can be made of an uh a soft material. Because people like that. Edward Sensabaugh: This soft material thing Joseph Johnson: Uh rubber Edward Sensabaugh: from Joseph Johnson: is a Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: soft material, I guess. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Uh Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Right. Marc Richardson: Right. Joseph Johnson: soft Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: enough. So that's uh basically what I Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Joseph Johnson: want to talk about. Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. We will take that. And then uh Mike? Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Well um nah the method um we will um include the buttons as we discussed uh earlier. Um an L_C_D_ s screen will be implemented. Um we must decide where, this meeting. Um there are new developments in speech recognition um systems, um and they are already being uh used on uh coffee machines. And um well they're cheap, so we could use them Edward Sensabaugh: Oh Marc Richardson: now. Um Edward Sensabaugh: That's interesting. Marc Richardson: it's not really speech recognition, it's more um like you can um talk to the chip, uh record the message and record an answer, and then once you uh talk to the remote, then um he will a answer with the the prerecorded message that you left. So if Joseph Johnson: Oh, Benjamin Lefler: Oh Marc Richardson: I say Benjamin Lefler: okay. Joseph Johnson: yeah, I understand. Yeah. Marc Richardson: hi Mike, and you have recorded uh hi Mike back, then you Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Marc Richardson: will get that. Benjamin Lefler: Right. Edward Sensabaugh: But you can also say that, when you say something, it does some function. Marc Richardson: No it doesn't Benjamin Lefler: No. Marc Richardson: does not Edward Sensabaugh: Oh. Marc Richardson: do anything. But Edward Sensabaugh: That's Benjamin Lefler: But that Edward Sensabaugh: a bit Marc Richardson: i Benjamin Lefler: that Marc Richardson: it's Edward Sensabaugh: uh Benjamin Lefler: makes Marc Richardson: just Benjamin Lefler: it cheap. Marc Richardson: a Benjamin Lefler: It's Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: it's Marc Richardson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: just Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Marc Richardson: it's Benjamin Lefler: a an Marc Richardson: it's cheap. Benjamin Lefler: extra Edward Sensabaugh: I Benjamin Lefler: function, Edward Sensabaugh: understand. Benjamin Lefler: and it's cheap. Edward Sensabaugh: But it has no functionality Benjamin Lefler: No Edward Sensabaugh: for our remote Benjamin Lefler: but Marc Richardson: No but Edward Sensabaugh: at Marc Richardson: that's Edward Sensabaugh: all. Marc Richardson: the gadget they want, Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Marc Richardson: or the Benjamin Lefler: right. Marc Richardson: gimmicks. Joseph Johnson: But it Benjamin Lefler: Young Joseph Johnson: it's Benjamin Lefler: people Joseph Johnson: n Benjamin Lefler: love Joseph Johnson: nice Benjamin Lefler: them. Joseph Johnson: for young Marc Richardson: Yes, Joseph Johnson: people. They Marc Richardson: we Joseph Johnson: like Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: gadgets. Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: ple Marc Richardson: we should really uh include that one, I think. Benjamin Lefler: Right. Joseph Johnson: If Edward Sensabaugh: Hmm. Joseph Johnson: it's Marc Richardson: Um Joseph Johnson: cheap. Yeah. Marc Richardson: Well, as I said uh earlier I think the uh L_C_D_ screen should be uh positioned at the lower end of the remote. Um the buttons for screen width and general settings and uh and that kind of stuff um we can also do let that kind of functions um be shown in the L_C_D_ screen, Edward Sensabaugh: So you Marc Richardson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: put a menu Marc Richardson: instead Edward Sensabaugh: in the Marc Richardson: of Edward Sensabaugh: L_C_D_? Marc Richardson: uh extra buttons. I think young people and yeah w well every user would like that. Um the buttons um should be positioned uh positioned the same way as they are on a, well, conventional remote, I think. For the learnability and uh well to keep it recognisable. A voice recognition can be uh implemented. And uh I drew an example, but it did not work quite the well uh the Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Marc Richardson: way I Joseph Johnson: Can you Marc Richardson: wanted Joseph Johnson: draw Benjamin Lefler: How Joseph Johnson: it Marc Richardson: it Joseph Johnson: now Marc Richardson: to do. Joseph Johnson: of uh Marc Richardson: Hmm? Joseph Johnson: Can Edward Sensabaugh: Ah. Benjamin Lefler: How Joseph Johnson: you Marc Richardson: Well Joseph Johnson: draw it now? Marc Richardson: I have the I can draw it again, and I know what I did wrong. I didn't tick the note bo box in Joseph Johnson: Mm. Marc Richardson: the. Joseph Johnson: Alright. Marc Richardson: Um Benjamin Lefler: How do you uh uh give input to the menu on the L_C_D_ screen? Marc Richardson: Um with the uh the up and down and and well Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Marc Richardson: buttons Benjamin Lefler: So you have Marc Richardson: and Benjamin Lefler: a Marc Richardson: the Benjamin Lefler: menu button, and then you can go up Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: But Benjamin Lefler: and down. Marc Richardson: I will draw what Edward Sensabaugh: then Marc Richardson: I Edward Sensabaugh: we should Marc Richardson: had drawn Edward Sensabaugh: also have Marc Richardson: on Edward Sensabaugh: an Marc Richardson: the screen. Edward Sensabaugh: uh an Okay button. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah right. Marc Richardson: Yes. Um I shall draw this. Joseph Johnson: button, yeah. Marc Richardson: If it uh works. Edward Sensabaugh: Just uh There is already a blank. Yes? So Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Mm so have I. Nah. Benjamin Lefler: You have to push hard. Joseph Johnson: I suggest a banana shape. Because Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: of the fruity uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: fashion. Edward Sensabaugh: No m Joseph Johnson: Yellow Edward Sensabaugh: Next Joseph Johnson: and Edward Sensabaugh: year that's out. Joseph Johnson: Yeah alright, yeah. Just a hunch. Marc Richardson: Well these little buttons are a bit difficult to uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: draw uh Joseph Johnson: Those are the Marc Richardson: correct. Joseph Johnson: the cha the channel buttons of course? Marc Richardson: Yeah just uh the numbers. Joseph Johnson: And then below is the L_C_D_ screen? Marc Richardson: These these will be bigger in the the real Joseph Johnson: Alright, Marc Richardson: design. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Marc Richardson: This must be the Okay button used to uh interact with the L_C_D_ Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Marc Richardson: screen. And with this you can uh, Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: yes, go to through the menus and that can Um Benjamin Lefler: You've Marc Richardson: the video button should be uh an Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Marc Richardson: apart button, because you want it to uh t, yeah, Benjamin Lefler: Right. Marc Richardson: to use it fast within one uh click. Edward Sensabaugh: And Benjamin Lefler: And you Edward Sensabaugh: what's Marc Richardson: Um Edward Sensabaugh: the Benjamin Lefler: you Edward Sensabaugh: menu Benjamin Lefler: need Edward Sensabaugh: button? Benjamin Lefler: a you Marc Richardson: it's Benjamin Lefler: need a speaker. For Marc Richardson: Hmm? Benjamin Lefler: the Marc Richardson: This button can also be the Menu button, we use in the Edward Sensabaugh: But Marc Richardson: menus Edward Sensabaugh: how Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: did Marc Richardson: we we can Edward Sensabaugh: How do Marc Richardson: add Edward Sensabaugh: you get Marc Richardson: another Edward Sensabaugh: out Marc Richardson: button Edward Sensabaugh: of the menu Marc Richardson: here, Edward Sensabaugh: then? Marc Richardson: but Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Maybe I you could Joseph Johnson: Uh Edward Sensabaugh: j Joseph Johnson: by Edward Sensabaugh: just Joseph Johnson: pe Edward Sensabaugh: do Joseph Johnson: pressing Edward Sensabaugh: an an Joseph Johnson: the Edward Sensabaugh: exit Joseph Johnson: menu button Edward Sensabaugh: with Okay. Joseph Johnson: again. By pressing Edward Sensabaugh: Uh Joseph Johnson: the menu button again, you Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: go uh Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: out. It's usual the the the d kind Edward Sensabaugh: Yes, Joseph Johnson: of Edward Sensabaugh: well but Joseph Johnson: the way Edward Sensabaugh: bec because Joseph Johnson: it Edward Sensabaugh: when you Joseph Johnson: works. Edward Sensabaugh: push Menu Joseph Johnson: Yeah? Edward Sensabaugh: you get in, and Joseph Johnson: Yeah? Edward Sensabaugh: then you have to push Okay when you get to Marc Richardson: Ah Edward Sensabaugh: a choice. Marc Richardson: right. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: And Joseph Johnson: But Marc Richardson: you Joseph Johnson: you can Marc Richardson: you Joseph Johnson: men you can press menu again to get out. Edward Sensabaugh: Well that's also the Okay button. That's Marc Richardson: No no, Joseph Johnson: No. Edward Sensabaugh: you Marc Richardson: we Edward Sensabaugh: you Marc Richardson: we Edward Sensabaugh: should have Marc Richardson: we should Edward Sensabaugh: uh Marc Richardson: uh add uh a extra Menu button and this Edward Sensabaugh: Or you Marc Richardson: the Edward Sensabaugh: can Marc Richardson: Okay button. Edward Sensabaugh: put in the L_C_D_'s uh window an option Get Out. Benjamin Lefler: Exit. Edward Sensabaugh: Exit. Marc Richardson: Ah once you have an extra Menu button, you don't need that that extra option. Edward Sensabaugh: Well, Marc Richardson: You Benjamin Lefler: But Marc Richardson: have Edward Sensabaugh: it's Benjamin Lefler: we Edward Sensabaugh: just Marc Richardson: uh Benjamin Lefler: need Edward Sensabaugh: a Benjamin Lefler: a Marc Richardson: redundancy. Edward Sensabaugh: choice. Benjamin Lefler: we need a a recording recording button for the speech uh part. Or don't Marc Richardson: Yeah, if we decide to uh to implement that, Joseph Johnson: Why Marc Richardson: maybe Joseph Johnson: would Marc Richardson: we Joseph Johnson: you Marc Richardson: should. Joseph Johnson: put it uh then, and where is the recording uh the microphone? Where would Marc Richardson: Well Joseph Johnson: you put Marc Richardson: they Joseph Johnson: it? Marc Richardson: that could be anywhere. That's very small. It could be uh down here. Joseph Johnson: Uh-huh. Marc Richardson: Um. Well, not here. I yeah I suggest here. But that's just a little Benjamin Lefler: Right, and Joseph Johnson: Microphone, Benjamin Lefler: spea Marc Richardson: gap. Benjamin Lefler: speaker Joseph Johnson: yeah. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: at the back, or something. Marc Richardson: Well the speaker and the microphone, I think, are the same uh little hole thingy. Joseph Johnson: Yeah I understand. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Uh Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Joseph Johnson: but uh we could uh d do, but it's perhaps more expensive, uh the Marc Richardson: Well i Joseph Johnson: speaker on the back or something. Marc Richardson: Um there are a all already being implemented in in coffee machines, so they won't be uh very expensive. But Edward Sensabaugh: Huh? Joseph Johnson: Alright. Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah? Okay. Marc Richardson: This is my suggested Edward Sensabaugh: Well, Marc Richardson: design. Edward Sensabaugh: okay, alright. Marc Richardson: Um Edward Sensabaugh: Um then let's Marc Richardson: Yes. Edward Sensabaugh: have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make. Marc Richardson: And oh I think as you can see so, the L_C_D_ screen does look better uh at the lower end, or Edward Sensabaugh: I'd Marc Richardson: at the bottom. Edward Sensabaugh: I agree. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Marc Richardson: But Benjamin Lefler: fine. Edward Sensabaugh: Fine. Benjamin Lefler: Move on. Joseph Johnson: Well yeah yeah yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Oh, um I had some uh examples. Joseph Johnson: I can live with Marc Richardson: You Joseph Johnson: it. Marc Richardson: can Edward Sensabaugh: Yes? Marc Richardson: uh But I did not like it very much, but Well these are Edward Sensabaugh: Too big. Marc Richardson: quite obvious, very ugly remote. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: They do Marc Richardson: Um Joseph Johnson: they don't look fruity enough. Benjamin Lefler: Nei Marc Richardson: No, Benjamin Lefler: They're n they're not Edward Sensabaugh: They're Marc Richardson: well Benjamin Lefler: trendy. Edward Sensabaugh: all Marc Richardson: th Edward Sensabaugh: black. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Well not all. Edward Sensabaugh: Hey, that one I like. Marc Richardson: Uh Joseph Johnson: Tho Marc Richardson: this is Joseph Johnson: Yeah Marc Richardson: for children Joseph Johnson: those Marc Richardson: but Benjamin Lefler: It doesn't Marc Richardson: th Benjamin Lefler: look strong. Edward Sensabaugh: No. Marc Richardson: No. Joseph Johnson: But it doesn't uh the Marc Richardson: W but with the colours i it's a Edward Sensabaugh: The Marc Richardson: bit the way Edward Sensabaugh: remote. Marc Richardson: we're going to. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah right. Joseph Johnson: Yeah, ok Yeah. Marc Richardson: Well this is a Edward Sensabaugh: Terrible. Benjamin Lefler: This Marc Richardson: terrible Benjamin Lefler: is just crazy. Edward Sensabaugh: It's it's Marc Richardson: Um Edward Sensabaugh: all Marc Richardson: this Edward Sensabaugh: too Marc Richardson: looks Edward Sensabaugh: much Joseph Johnson: But it Edward Sensabaugh: buttons. Joseph Johnson: it must Edward Sensabaugh: Too many Joseph Johnson: not look Edward Sensabaugh: buttons. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: too childish Edward Sensabaugh: That's Joseph Johnson: of course huh? Marc Richardson: This uh these are the L_C_D_ screens. I think we should, if it's um possible, uh one with colours, but Benjamin Lefler: Nah th Marc Richardson: I don't know Benjamin Lefler: It's Edward Sensabaugh: Well, Marc Richardson: uh Benjamin Lefler: too expensive. Edward Sensabaugh: that's too expensive Marc Richardson: Too expensive? Edward Sensabaugh: I think. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Alright. Well Joseph Johnson: But Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Joseph Johnson: it Yeah. Marc Richardson: Nah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Okay. Marc Richardson: Ha, Edward Sensabaugh: Huh. Marc Richardson: even more. N Edward Sensabaugh: Mm no. Benjamin Lefler: But Edward Sensabaugh: 'Kay. Benjamin Lefler: are we going for a strange uh form? Edward Sensabaugh: No, Benjamin Lefler: 'Cause Edward Sensabaugh: not Benjamin Lefler: people Edward Sensabaugh: very Benjamin Lefler: like that. Edward Sensabaugh: strange. Joseph Johnson: Not not too strange. Benjamin Lefler: Not too strange. Joseph Johnson: No. Benjamin Lefler: You Edward Sensabaugh: It still Benjamin Lefler: can make Edward Sensabaugh: has Benjamin Lefler: the Edward Sensabaugh: t Benjamin Lefler: the underside, you can make it more round, Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Benjamin Lefler: where Edward Sensabaugh: Th Benjamin Lefler: the L_C_D_ is. Edward Sensabaugh: a a kind of bridge. So it Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: f falls over the hand. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: You know? Edward Sensabaugh: Well I have at home a remote with a bridge. It's just a half round half half circle at And then it falls exactly over the hand, and that's very nice. That's It feels comfortable. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, but people like something uh new Joseph Johnson: Exotic Benjamin Lefler: you know. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: We Benjamin Lefler: different. Joseph Johnson: have t Yeah, yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: I will Benjamin Lefler: Y Joseph Johnson: design Benjamin Lefler: yis Joseph Johnson: it, we design it later. So we'll get Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Joseph Johnson: to that later I guess. Benjamin Lefler: Great. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah, alright. Um where did I put it? Joseph Johnson: The specific shape. The Edward Sensabaugh: I got this from our friends. So Joseph Johnson: Our sources. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh yeah the conceptual design. These are a few examples which we have to decide about. All the the materials from the case, uh the electric cable that's all your uh your side of the story. Um Benjamin Lefler: Your bag. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Um now from the user interface, your uh package? Um where No well, that's more like the buttons where they have to come. And um B a bit of, yeah well, a bit of uh design. Marc Richardson: Yeah, this is what we've just done. Joseph Johnson: But Edward Sensabaugh: Yes, Joseph Johnson: uh we Marc Richardson: Right? Edward Sensabaugh: but Joseph Johnson: should Edward Sensabaugh: we have Joseph Johnson: decide Edward Sensabaugh: to decide Joseph Johnson: now. Edward Sensabaugh: about these now. Marc Richardson: Ah right. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Materials Edward Sensabaugh: And uh Benjamin Lefler: are the most, Edward Sensabaugh: the trend-watching. Benjamin Lefler: most impor Edward Sensabaugh: So as you said, fruity is in, well sells good. Wow. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh these things. Joseph Johnson: So we have to uh put it in one uh document. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh yes. Um so if we uh go through Joseph Johnson: Copy Edward Sensabaugh: them Joseph Johnson: paste uh this story into a into a Word document, and then uh put the answers after the subjects. Yeah. Well we have to decide all these things? Marc Richardson: Yeah but all these examples are uh of a coffee machine. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah well uh Joseph Johnson: W Edward Sensabaugh: Why Joseph Johnson: we can Edward Sensabaugh: should Joseph Johnson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: I uh Joseph Johnson: override them? Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. So Joseph Johnson: Well a case? Uh that's Benjamin Lefler. Uh I suggest Well what do I Edward Sensabaugh: What Joseph Johnson: suggest actually? Edward Sensabaugh: what kind of properties should it have? Well we just listened. Marc Richardson: I Joseph Johnson: Uh Marc Richardson: think Joseph Johnson: s solid, Marc Richardson: we Joseph Johnson: yeah. Yeah. Marc Richardson: Why don't we um use uh titanium or or a hard, yeah, some kind of metal for the uh the Benjamin Lefler: Do you know the Marc Richardson: the Benjamin Lefler: new Marc Richardson: whole Benjamin Lefler: uh Marc Richardson: remote except the front. That Just like um Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Marc Richardson: most Benjamin Lefler: No Joseph Johnson: I understand. Marc Richardson: cell Benjamin Lefler: no Marc Richardson: phones are. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. So we have titanium. Benjamin Lefler: The front is the most important. Joseph Johnson: Yeah but the non-removable elements of the of the remote, so not the front, could be titanium, to give Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: that uh strong look. Edward Sensabaugh: You know what? Joseph Johnson: And then the front is made of plastic. And you can put that on and off, and switch it. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: But the feel of plastic isn't strong. Joseph Johnson: No but you Marc Richardson: No but Joseph Johnson: have Marc Richardson: you you Joseph Johnson: titanium Marc Richardson: have this Joseph Johnson: of course. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Uh you have Benjamin Lefler: Yeah alright, Joseph Johnson: the best Benjamin Lefler: alright. Joseph Johnson: of both worlds. Benjamin Lefler: 'Kay. Marc Richardson: Yeah, you have the re remote in your hand like this. So you feel titanium. Joseph Johnson: And of course, yeah, you have the the the plastic front end. But Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: you also have the Benjamin Lefler: Fronts Joseph Johnson: titanium. Benjamin Lefler: are are cheaper than Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: when Joseph Johnson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: they're Joseph Johnson: of Benjamin Lefler: from Joseph Johnson: course, Benjamin Lefler: plas Joseph Johnson: but yeah you have to make a Marc Richardson: And I don't Joseph Johnson: decision. Marc Richardson: know if you can make steel just any way you want it to. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, but it it's expensive. Joseph Johnson: I guess so. Uh Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: titanium I sh I think Benjamin Lefler: Bendable. Joseph Johnson: uh Huh? Benjamin Lefler: Bendable. Joseph Johnson: Well, well the Marc Richardson: Well any colour Joseph Johnson: According to my sources, uh it's it's totally possible to make an entire uh uh uh Titanium is available, and uh we can uh make uh an entire remote out of it, if we Marc Richardson: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: want. Marc Richardson: then you you paint it in the colour you want Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: it. Joseph Johnson: Mm. Marc Richardson: The plastic is Benjamin Lefler: Paint spray. Marc Richardson: is the colour you want Joseph Johnson: Mm. Marc Richardson: it. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah alright. Marc Richardson: So Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: So, Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Benjamin Lefler: we're going for a titanium back and a Edward Sensabaugh: I've Benjamin Lefler: plastic Edward Sensabaugh: uh Benjamin Lefler: front? Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Marc Richardson: Mm. Joseph Johnson: I think Edward Sensabaugh: Titanium Joseph Johnson: that's a nice Edward Sensabaugh: back, plastic Joseph Johnson: trade-off. Edward Sensabaugh: front. Okay. Um well I am going to put it in here, uh because we can Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: uh Benjamin Lefler: great. Edward Sensabaugh: look. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: I Joseph Johnson: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Um solid feel and trendy look. So material, um hard plastic Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: for Joseph Johnson: for Edward Sensabaugh: the front? Joseph Johnson: the front and Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: then titanium for the back. For the non-removable uh part. Benjamin Lefler: But then you have the problem, when you have a titanium back, you can't switch it. When you want an other colour on the front, it doesn't match. Joseph Johnson: Well Benjamin Lefler: You know? Joseph Johnson: but Marc Richardson: Well titanium is neutral. Joseph Johnson: The titan titanium isn't isn't v very Yeah, i it doesn't uh curves. No uh I nei. Benjamin Lefler: I Joseph Johnson: Titanium is very Benjamin Lefler: understand. Joseph Johnson: No no no, but you Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: know Benjamin Lefler: yeah, Joseph Johnson: b Titanium Benjamin Lefler: yeah. Joseph Johnson: is very basic colour, and it doesn't Marc Richardson: Hmm. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: really matter if we have a purple front on it or Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: a orange Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Joseph Johnson: front. I dunno if if you disagree, Marc Richardson: Well Joseph Johnson: but I think Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: it's Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Marc Richardson: Our customers will Joseph Johnson: doesn't Marc Richardson: use Joseph Johnson: matter Marc Richardson: those Joseph Johnson: very Marc Richardson: uh Joseph Johnson: much. Marc Richardson: funky uh trendy colours, and they don't Joseph Johnson: And even Marc Richardson: use Joseph Johnson: if it Marc Richardson: uh Joseph Johnson: does uh doesn't Marc Richardson: wood. Joseph Johnson: match, it will uh People Benjamin Lefler: Funky Joseph Johnson: like Benjamin Lefler: customers. Marc Richardson: Mm. Joseph Johnson: mm Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. And Joseph Johnson: colours Edward Sensabaugh: well Joseph Johnson: that Edward Sensabaugh: the Joseph Johnson: don't match. Edward Sensabaugh: the electrical cable is just normal Joseph Johnson: Cop copper Edward Sensabaugh: uh. Joseph Johnson: uh material. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Excuse Benjamin Lefler? Marc Richardson: The electrical cable Edward Sensabaugh: It's Marc Richardson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: Yeah copper Edward Sensabaugh: from Joseph Johnson: i Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: just Marc Richardson: does Edward Sensabaugh: our Joseph Johnson: a Edward Sensabaugh: coffee Joseph Johnson: ba basic Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: No we don't use an electrical cable. Yeah inside, but this is for Joseph Johnson: Yeah Marc Richardson: the Joseph Johnson: in Marc Richardson: coffee uh machine. Joseph Johnson: Yeah well inside the remote control we use a Edward Sensabaugh: Of course. Marc Richardson: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: couple Marc Richardson: but Joseph Johnson: of uh Marc Richardson: that's not what's meant here, I think. Benjamin Lefler: Nei. So external. Joseph Johnson: Oh external? Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Well A coffee grind doesn't have Na ja. Never mind the coffee grind. Edward Sensabaugh: Well uh all the all the inside work of our remote is uh standard work. So Joseph Johnson: Right? Edward Sensabaugh: The chip is normal silicon. Uh the buttons are normal, etcetera. Okay? Joseph Johnson: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: So that's just easy. Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our earlier uh remotes. The conceptual specification of the user interface? Um well we have our beautiful drawing. Marc Richardson: Well I got a better one here and I will um Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Well you can put that in uh Marc Richardson: The shared Edward Sensabaugh: into Marc Richardson: folder. Edward Sensabaugh: the shared folder, and then I'll put it in our end report. Marc Richardson: I will work this out uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yes, Marc Richardson: for Edward Sensabaugh: you can Marc Richardson: the uh next meeting. Edward Sensabaugh: Mm yeah. You can uh put some uh which button is what. Marc Richardson: Yeah yeah yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Okay. Um the trend-watching included these days. And what do we? We thing that fruit and bright colours are Joseph Johnson: Yeah the the the front Benjamin Lefler: I think Joseph Johnson: w Benjamin Lefler: we can launch a couple of packages. You can buy Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: a different kind of of of machine, but it's the same thing, but with another front. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm. Benjamin Lefler: So Edward Sensabaugh: We can also uh Marc Richardson: Yeah Edward Sensabaugh: implement Marc Richardson: that's the Benjamin Lefler: And Marc Richardson: whole Benjamin Lefler: you Edward Sensabaugh: um Marc Richardson: idea Benjamin Lefler: can Marc Richardson: of the Benjamin Lefler: you Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Marc Richardson: front. Benjamin Lefler: can Edward Sensabaugh: we can also implement Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: fronts from um movies that are very hot. Uh Marc Richardson: Yes. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah right. Marc Richardson: But Edward Sensabaugh: those Marc Richardson: that's Edward Sensabaugh: kind Marc Richardson: for later Edward Sensabaugh: of things. Marc Richardson: on. The fronts y you can do anything with them. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah but if you if you launch uh five different packages like Marc Richardson: Yeah, Benjamin Lefler: iPod Marc Richardson: right Benjamin Lefler: mini Marc Richardson: For the uh initiative uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: launch. Joseph Johnson: For the for the launch, yeah. Benjamin Lefler: It's Marc Richardson: Mm. Benjamin Lefler: good marketing. Edward Sensabaugh: Launch Joseph Johnson: So e Edward Sensabaugh: different Joseph Johnson: th then Edward Sensabaugh: lines Joseph Johnson: a c Edward Sensabaugh: at once. Joseph Johnson: couple of basic colours. Not not very uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, n not too Joseph Johnson: sim Benjamin Lefler: heavy. Joseph Johnson: Not Benjamin Lefler: You can always take another pick. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: We should not give them the m the most lovely front Benjamin Lefler: They have Edward Sensabaugh: when Benjamin Lefler: to Edward Sensabaugh: they Benjamin Lefler: buy Edward Sensabaugh: buy Benjamin Lefler: it Edward Sensabaugh: it Benjamin Lefler: later Edward Sensabaugh: for the first Benjamin Lefler: on. Marc Richardson: Oh Edward Sensabaugh: time. Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah Marc Richardson: yeah. Benjamin Lefler: right. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Come on. Benjamin Lefler: More basic. Edward Sensabaugh: We still have to make those fifty Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: million, Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Very Edward Sensabaugh: yeah? Joseph Johnson: boring, yeah. Marc Richardson: Well Joseph Johnson: The most Marc Richardson: you can you Joseph Johnson: boring Marc Richardson: can give Joseph Johnson: fronts Marc Richardson: them uh s Joseph Johnson: possible. Marc Richardson: s three Edward Sensabaugh: The most Marc Richardson: or so, so that they Edward Sensabaugh: ugly. Marc Richardson: can uh experiment with it and Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Marc Richardson: that Benjamin Lefler: right. Marc Richardson: they want more. Edward Sensabaugh: Two. Joseph Johnson: Yeah but you you can have some basic colours, and Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: then we come with the special patterns on them, Marc Richardson: Red Joseph Johnson: and Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: red, Joseph Johnson: and Marc Richardson: blue Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: and Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: green you give them Joseph Johnson: And Marc Richardson: or something, Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: and then you can give them Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: Alright. Marc Richardson: other ones. Edward Sensabaugh: Um well the buttons etcetera, we get from Mike. Uh this fruit and bright colours, yeah well I think we'll have to in the next uh half an hour, we'll have to uh s s specify the different uh types we want to launch, when we uh well Joseph Johnson: Uh we Edward Sensabaugh: introduce Joseph Johnson: still have Edward Sensabaugh: our Joseph Johnson: to make Edward Sensabaugh: remote. Joseph Johnson: We have still have to make the es the the real basic design. Because Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: yeah we have the Benjamin Lefler: But we Joseph Johnson: sketch but Benjamin Lefler: we must remember that fancy look-and-feel is the most important thing. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Benjamin Lefler: Else it w won't sell. So Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Joseph Johnson: Alright, yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Well I'll have to, before I get another warning for five minutes, I'm going to get Where is my mouse? Uh where is my mouse? Benjamin Lefler: Lost my mouse. Edward Sensabaugh: Oh yeah. Um this is it. Benjamin Lefler: Unbelievable. Edward Sensabaugh: Well, um this we have. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Uh basic stuff. Interface we have. Supplements, L_C_D_. Maybe a a cheap voice recording. Well Marc Richardson: Yeah we should Joseph Johnson: The price? Marc Richardson: do that. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Alright. Individual actions. Joseph Johnson: We all agree on that. Yeah. Marc Richardson: Mm. Edward Sensabaugh: Industry designer, User Interface, Mike. You're going to work together on a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard. Marc Richardson: Yeah, we can do that. Joseph Johnson: Together or uh Yeah Benjamin Lefler: Yeah Joseph Johnson: together. Benjamin Lefler: togeth Joseph Johnson: How Yeah yeah, but Edward Sensabaugh: That's Joseph Johnson: how Marc Richardson: But Edward Sensabaugh: what Joseph Johnson: do I Marc Richardson: bu Edward Sensabaugh: I got Marc Richardson: we Edward Sensabaugh: uh Marc Richardson: stay Edward Sensabaugh: to Marc Richardson: we Edward Sensabaugh: hear. Marc Richardson: stay here or something? Edward Sensabaugh: Yes well we'll get it to hear that I think. But I think so. Th they're saying SMARTboard Benjamin Lefler: You can Edward Sensabaugh: and Benjamin Lefler: take Edward Sensabaugh: that's Benjamin Lefler: the Edward Sensabaugh: it Benjamin Lefler: SMARTboard. Marc Richardson: Ah Edward Sensabaugh: This Marc Richardson: right. Edward Sensabaugh: is the SMARTboard, so Marc Richardson: And take it to our rooms and uh Edward Sensabaugh: Um so you can uh you you are going to make a prototype, and y Well that's includes uh specifying the buttons Marc Richardson: Ah, specific Edward Sensabaugh: etcetera. Marc Richardson: instructions will be sent to you by your Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: personal coach. Edward Sensabaugh: So you'll get it on your em on your laptop. Um well you will go and do something else uh on the project Benjamin Lefler: Have fun. Joseph Johnson: Some Edward Sensabaugh: yeah project Joseph Johnson: Some Edward Sensabaugh: evaluation. Joseph Johnson: non functional tasks. Edward Sensabaugh: So um, Benjamin Lefler: 'Kay. Edward Sensabaugh: what are you going to do? Uh I don't know what product evaluation exactly means, but uh you'll get uh the specifications. Benjamin Lefler: We don't have produ product yet, so Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. That's why I uh Benjamin Lefler: kind of difficult. Edward Sensabaugh: But uh Joseph Johnson: You're fired. No but Edward Sensabaugh: How long do we still have? Joseph Johnson: Well, can we talk about something else? Uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Uh no I don't know anything, but maybe uh Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: anyone Benjamin Lefler: Ajax. Marc Richardson: Um Joseph Johnson: else uh Yeah? Benjamin Lefler: Nah. Marc Richardson: Will we use uh round buttons or square ones for the Benjamin Lefler: Um Joseph Johnson: Round I think. Marc Richardson: for Benjamin Lefler: round. Marc Richardson: the numbers? Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: Round. Marc Richardson: I I I also Joseph Johnson: To make it Marc Richardson: uh Joseph Johnson: as Marc Richardson: thought Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: as round as possible. Marc Richardson: And these uh these s these buttons Edward Sensabaugh: Why Marc Richardson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: does Marc Richardson: are more uh triangle-ish Benjamin Lefler: Curvy. Marc Richardson: shaped Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. So you can Marc Richardson: with Benjamin Lefler: see Marc Richardson: a square Benjamin Lefler: you have Marc Richardson: one in Benjamin Lefler: to Marc Richardson: the Edward Sensabaugh: Ah Marc Richardson: middle. Edward Sensabaugh: f fuck Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: up or down. Edward Sensabaugh: you. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: But now I see Benjamin Lefler: And Joseph Johnson: the Benjamin Lefler: this must be uh volume I think, Edward Sensabaugh: Heh? Benjamin Lefler: and this programme. Marc Richardson: Mm. Well Edward Sensabaugh: We Marc Richardson: most Edward Sensabaugh: can't Marc Richardson: of the time Edward Sensabaugh: get Marc Richardson: uh up and down is programme and left and right are volume, I think. Joseph Johnson: Well th th th th Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: th that Marc Richardson: Yeah, it depends, but Joseph Johnson: depends uh. Well we Marc Richardson: If Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: you turn up the volume, you always see this thingy Joseph Johnson: We Marc Richardson: go Joseph Johnson: we j Marc Richardson: up. Joseph Johnson: we'll just give Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: them Benjamin Lefler: that's Joseph Johnson: an Benjamin Lefler: right. Joseph Johnson: uh We'll design it, and then they Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: can give comments on it. Marc Richardson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: alright. Edward Sensabaugh: Ts Benjamin Lefler: Okay. Edward Sensabaugh: It doesn't work any more. We can't save them. So we'll just have them uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Edward Sensabaugh: standing Benjamin Lefler: I noticed. Edward Sensabaugh: there. Benjamin Lefler: You can't uh click the corners. Edward Sensabaugh: No. It's a bit uh Benjamin Lefler: It's a Edward Sensabaugh: bit Benjamin Lefler: real Edward Sensabaugh: a pity. Benjamin Lefler: real Edward Sensabaugh: Well Benjamin Lefler: great Edward Sensabaugh: we still Benjamin Lefler: thing. Edward Sensabaugh: have uh more than five minutes. Um So what are we going to do? I as Project Manager ha don't have a clue. Benjamin Lefler: Let's start the design. Edward Sensabaugh: Oh we can uh decide how we implement the feeling from our company into the remote. Joseph Johnson: Well Marc Richardson: Mm. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Um I think um a logo, our company logo, and the slogan should Edward Sensabaugh: Also Joseph Johnson: be or Edward Sensabaugh: the slogan? Joseph Johnson: could be Edward Sensabaugh: On the Joseph Johnson: Yeah, why not? If there's enough space, you can put Marc Richardson: Uh Joseph Johnson: uh Marc Richardson: I Joseph Johnson: We'll Benjamin Lefler: O Marc Richardson: I'd Joseph Johnson: we'll Marc Richardson: say only the logo. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler too. Marc Richardson: Too much text and it gets Joseph Johnson: Well, Marc Richardson: too Joseph Johnson: our Marc Richardson: too Joseph Johnson: slogan Marc Richardson: busy. Joseph Johnson: is not very long. It's just a simple What Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: We Joseph Johnson: is it? Edward Sensabaugh: put the Marc Richardson: it's Edward Sensabaugh: fashion Marc Richardson: quite Edward Sensabaugh: in electronics. Marc Richardson: a long phrase. Edward Sensabaugh: We put the Benjamin Lefler: But Edward Sensabaugh: fashion in electronics. Benjamin Lefler: we kree we Joseph Johnson: You Benjamin Lefler: keep Joseph Johnson: c Benjamin Lefler: adjusting to the fashion with our fronts. So Joseph Johnson: But you can put it on the back, on the titanium part. The logo and the Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Marc Richardson: Ah Benjamin Lefler: right. Marc Richardson: the Joseph Johnson: and Marc Richardson: logo Joseph Johnson: the Marc Richardson: should be on Benjamin Lefler: The Marc Richardson: the Benjamin Lefler: logo Marc Richardson: top I think. Edward Sensabaugh: On the top. Yeah. Well Joseph Johnson: Yeah they do. Edward Sensabaugh: in Joseph Johnson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: in Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: in Joseph Johnson: yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: the right top corner? Marc Richardson: Right corner, yes. Edward Sensabaugh: And well you Joseph Johnson: Right Edward Sensabaugh: c Joseph Johnson: corner, Edward Sensabaugh: On the back, Joseph Johnson: or Edward Sensabaugh: you can put Joseph Johnson: maybe Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: here Edward Sensabaugh: h Joseph Johnson: in the middle? Edward Sensabaugh: At the bottom, you can put the logo with the Marc Richardson: uh the text? Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: But Edward Sensabaugh: Just Benjamin Lefler: the Marc Richardson: Uh yeah, Benjamin Lefler: logo Edward Sensabaugh: just Marc Richardson: at Edward Sensabaugh: small. Marc Richardson: the back? Benjamin Lefler: the logo shouldn't be exchangeable, when you get Joseph Johnson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: off the Joseph Johnson: it Benjamin Lefler: front. Marc Richardson: Well Joseph Johnson: it Marc Richardson: you Joseph Johnson: should Marc Richardson: c Joseph Johnson: be Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah Joseph Johnson: hard Edward Sensabaugh: well Joseph Johnson: on Marc Richardson: uh Joseph Johnson: the Marc Richardson: Yes. Joseph Johnson: on the on Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: the board, and Marc Richardson: You Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: can Joseph Johnson: you can Marc Richardson: The logo Joseph Johnson: remove Marc Richardson: can Joseph Johnson: the front. Marc Richardson: be on on every uh Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Marc Richardson: front. Benjamin Lefler: but you can scratch it off or something. It's better if you have it uh Marc Richardson: Yeah, but then you must uh really Edward Sensabaugh: Carved Marc Richardson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: into the material. Marc Richardson: yeah push it in or something. Edward Sensabaugh: No, you you can carve it into the titanium at the back. Joseph Johnson: I l I like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing. But Marc Richardson: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: am Marc Richardson: on Joseph Johnson: I the Marc Richardson: the Joseph Johnson: only Marc Richardson: backside. Joseph Johnson: one, or uh Edward Sensabaugh: Well, management Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: would Marc Richardson: n Edward Sensabaugh: like Marc Richardson: n not Edward Sensabaugh: it. Marc Richardson: not on the front side, I think. Edward Sensabaugh: The front side, Joseph Johnson: No Edward Sensabaugh: no Joseph Johnson: not Edward Sensabaugh: no Joseph Johnson: on Edward Sensabaugh: l Joseph Johnson: the front, Edward Sensabaugh: no Joseph Johnson: but Edward Sensabaugh: slogan. Joseph Johnson: on the backside. Marc Richardson: On the back Joseph Johnson: Uh Marc Richardson: Yes, you you can, yeah, push that in, Edward Sensabaugh: Sorry. Marc Richardson: so that it is Joseph Johnson: I think Marc Richardson: always Joseph Johnson: it's a nice Marc Richardson: be Joseph Johnson: idea, Marc Richardson: there. Joseph Johnson: to make it more recognisable, Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: that the Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: next to the logo you have the slogan. Benjamin Lefler: I agree. Joseph Johnson: To make more uh Benjamin Lefler: But Joseph Johnson: of Benjamin Lefler: not Joseph Johnson: an impression. Benjamin Lefler: too big. Just Joseph Johnson: Not Benjamin Lefler: uh Joseph Johnson: too big. No, very small. Not Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: on the entire back, but uh just very small. But readable enough of course. Benjamin Lefler: Okay. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes, Joseph Johnson: But Edward Sensabaugh: slogan Joseph Johnson: we'll uh we'll Edward Sensabaugh: from Joseph Johnson: take that uh with us Edward Sensabaugh: company Marc Richardson: Yeah Joseph Johnson: into Marc Richardson: I Joseph Johnson: the Marc Richardson: think Joseph Johnson: design. Marc Richardson: over here the logo. Joseph Johnson: Lo Uh yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: on the Joseph Johnson: Or Edward Sensabaugh: back Joseph Johnson: maybe here in the middle, but we'll decide Edward Sensabaugh: with Joseph Johnson: later. Edward Sensabaugh: logo and logo also on the front but not exchange uh Uh? Hmm? Uh when changing fronts. Alright, Joseph Johnson: Do you do you see Edward Sensabaugh: that's Joseph Johnson: a Edward Sensabaugh: decided. Joseph Johnson: bit of the of the um Edward Sensabaugh: Five minutes left. Joseph Johnson: of the uh titanium? O on the front? Uh maybe if we Marc Richardson: Yes we Joseph Johnson: make this Marc Richardson: could Joseph Johnson: this this lower part titanium, the front is the the upper part, and the the bit with the with the L_C_D_ screen. So Edward Sensabaugh: So a bit of titanium between? Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: No no betwe of Edward Sensabaugh: That's Joseph Johnson: between Edward Sensabaugh: a bit Joseph Johnson: we Edward Sensabaugh: Oh Joseph Johnson: can Edward Sensabaugh: that Joseph Johnson: do Edward Sensabaugh: that's Joseph Johnson: but Edward Sensabaugh: that's pretty cool. Joseph Johnson: But then you have two parts Marc Richardson: No, they Joseph Johnson: of Marc Richardson: have Joseph Johnson: front, Benjamin Lefler: No Marc Richardson: two Benjamin Lefler: no Marc Richardson: fronts, Benjamin Lefler: no no. Marc Richardson: that. Joseph Johnson: two Benjamin Lefler: You Joseph Johnson: fronts Benjamin Lefler: have to Joseph Johnson: that Benjamin Lefler: make Marc Richardson: You Benjamin Lefler: this Edward Sensabaugh: No? Marc Richardson: you Benjamin Lefler: titanium Marc Richardson: can Benjamin Lefler: too. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Johnson: This enti Benjamin Lefler: Else Joseph Johnson: entire Benjamin Lefler: you you Joseph Johnson: bottom? Benjamin Lefler: get problems Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: with the L_C_D_. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes. Benjamin Lefler: Like dust in it and so things like Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: that. When you exchange all the fronts and it's open. Edward Sensabaugh: I already Marc Richardson: No, you Edward Sensabaugh: have Marc Richardson: can Edward Sensabaugh: uh Marc Richardson: you can Edward Sensabaugh: all Marc Richardson: just Edward Sensabaugh: kinds of uh Marc Richardson: And then not a Edward Sensabaugh: filth Marc Richardson: straight Edward Sensabaugh: between Marc Richardson: line Edward Sensabaugh: the Marc Richardson: but uh Edward Sensabaugh: mobile. Marc Richardson: some sort of wave Joseph Johnson: And then the lower part Marc Richardson: or Joseph Johnson: is titanium? Marc Richardson: something. This is titanium. Joseph Johnson: I think Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: And Joseph Johnson: that's Marc Richardson: this Joseph Johnson: nice, Marc Richardson: is uh Benjamin Lefler: Some Joseph Johnson: yeah. Benjamin Lefler: some kind of wei weight Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: in it. Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Round forms. Marc Richardson: F front. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. I like that bit of uh titanium also Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: on Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: the Marc Richardson: With the Joseph Johnson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yep. Marc Richardson: with the Joseph Johnson: A bit Marc Richardson: curved Joseph Johnson: like uh Marc Richardson: edge. Joseph Johnson: a bit like your mobile phone. Maybe you can show Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: it. It also has the Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: those two distinct uh Marc Richardson: Tada. Joseph Johnson: Mm bit like this. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah, Joseph Johnson: Uh it's uh Benjamin Lefler: you can make it go round this corner too where the logo is. Because it has to Edward Sensabaugh: What? Benjamin Lefler: be uh there all the time Joseph Johnson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: you know. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Marc Richardson: Ah. Joseph Johnson: That uh Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: So Benjamin Lefler: So Edward Sensabaugh: round Benjamin Lefler: uh Joseph Johnson: Maybe Benjamin Lefler: a Edward Sensabaugh: where? Joseph Johnson: a nice touch, yeah. Benjamin Lefler: little corner Marc Richardson: Yeah, Benjamin Lefler: of Marc Richardson: that's Benjamin Lefler: titanium. Edward Sensabaugh: Oh, Marc Richardson: nice finishing Edward Sensabaugh: yeah. Marc Richardson: touch you need. Edward Sensabaugh: Yes, that also sounds uh pretty uh Benjamin Lefler: So Edward Sensabaugh: neat. Benjamin Lefler: this Joseph Johnson: I think I'm Benjamin Lefler: this Joseph Johnson: going Benjamin Lefler: is Joseph Johnson: to buy Benjamin Lefler: the Joseph Johnson: it. Benjamin Lefler: exchangeable part. Edward Sensabaugh: We want Marc Richardson: Yeah, this Edward Sensabaugh: it. Marc Richardson: is the front. Edward Sensabaugh: And it's only f twenty five Euros. Come Marc Richardson: This Joseph Johnson: That's Edward Sensabaugh: on. Joseph Johnson: a bit too much, but No, Edward Sensabaugh: No that's nothing. Joseph Johnson: no no no, but Edward Sensabaugh: The Phillips Marc Richardson: is Joseph Johnson: I think Edward Sensabaugh: remote Joseph Johnson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: uh costs Joseph Johnson: this Marc Richardson: the Joseph Johnson: looks Edward Sensabaugh: more. Joseph Johnson: uh pretty nice actually. Of course, Benjamin Lefler: Right. Joseph Johnson: because it's my design but No Marc Richardson: My design. Joseph Johnson: our d our design, alright. Benjamin Lefler: Taking Edward Sensabaugh: Well Benjamin Lefler: all the Edward Sensabaugh: uh Benjamin Lefler: credit. Edward Sensabaugh: you two are going to work together. You'll get your uh specifications on your uh laptop, and then Marc Richardson: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: uh Marc Richardson: We'll stay here I guess? Benjamin Lefler: But Edward Sensabaugh: you Benjamin Lefler: there's Edward Sensabaugh: uh Benjamin Lefler: a problem. We can't uh take a blank one. Or can we? Edward Sensabaugh: Well I think we can, I just Marc Richardson: Well we Edward Sensabaugh: It's Marc Richardson: can uh erase an animal I guess. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Uh the Benjamin Lefler: Nah Marc Richardson: fourth Benjamin Lefler: that's Marc Richardson: one. Benjamin Lefler: alright, Joseph Johnson: But don't Benjamin Lefler: that's Joseph Johnson: erase Benjamin Lefler: alright. Joseph Johnson: my cat. Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah, Marc Richardson: Uh the Edward Sensabaugh: o Marc Richardson: fourth one is empty, isn't it? Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Oh Joseph Johnson: I want to preserve it. Benjamin Lefler: This one is empty. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: You have to empty one huh? Edward Sensabaugh: Oh, we have a one. Joseph Johnson: What are you doing chief? Edward Sensabaugh: So, you Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Edward Sensabaugh: can uh draw a Marc Richardson: Yeah Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: I think we have to wait? Edward Sensabaugh: Well Joseph Johnson: Yeah Benjamin Lefler: No Edward Sensabaugh: I'll Joseph Johnson: until Edward Sensabaugh: get a Joseph Johnson: the Edward Sensabaugh: I'll get the Joseph Johnson: until the beep Edward Sensabaugh: message. Joseph Johnson: goes. But I don't uh Do we have to stay here, or I think Edward Sensabaugh: No, Joseph Johnson: we have to return Edward Sensabaugh: I Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: think Joseph Johnson: first. Edward Sensabaugh: uh Well you'll Maybe you can uh keep your uh laptop here. Marc Richardson: Maybe. Edward Sensabaugh: Or get your mouse. Because it's little Joseph Johnson: The Edward Sensabaugh: bit Joseph Johnson: high powers Edward Sensabaugh: uh Joseph Johnson: from above Edward Sensabaugh: hard to work with these uh plates. Joseph Johnson: will have Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: to tell us, yeah. Benjamin Lefler: It's not relaxing. Edward Sensabaugh: I always have a mouse next to my laptop. I hate Benjamin Lefler: I Edward Sensabaugh: these Benjamin Lefler: I don't Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Benjamin Lefler: have Joseph Johnson: touch-pads, Benjamin Lefler: a laptop. Joseph Johnson: yeah. Edward Sensabaugh: Ugh. Joseph Johnson: We can uh do a touch-pad on our remote. Benjamin Lefler: Yeah right. Joseph Johnson: No Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: just kidding. Benjamin Lefler: Dream on. Joseph Johnson: Well we have uh b you have to have a bit of humour in the in the discussions too, because it becomes too Edward Sensabaugh: And in your remote control. Joseph Johnson: too too Edward Sensabaugh: So we put Joseph Johnson: too Edward Sensabaugh: a Joseph Johnson: stressy. Edward Sensabaugh: touch pad on it, and say ha ha. Marc Richardson: Aha. This has no function. Benjamin Lefler: Half Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. We know you'll you'll you'll hate it but Joseph Johnson: But uh th youth doesn't care about functio functionality, Benjamin Lefler: No. Joseph Johnson: so Edward Sensabaugh: But they do want some gadgets. Benjamin Lefler: It's Edward Sensabaugh: So Benjamin Lefler: all about cool things. Edward Sensabaugh: that's wha what we're doing. Joseph Johnson: Yeah. Benjamin Lefler: And it will sell. We will be rich. Joseph Johnson: Bless you. Edward Sensabaugh: Well we won't. Our bosses will be rich. Joseph Johnson: Mm. Marc Richardson: We've done too much in the previous meetings. Joseph Johnson: Too much? Marc Richardson: Yes, we've got nothing to do now. Joseph Johnson: Well they Edward Sensabaugh: Well, Joseph Johnson: uh Edward Sensabaugh: that's not bad, is it? Benjamin Lefler: No. Joseph Johnson: I think that's good. We all had uh our talk and we agree I guess on uh several thing, on most uh on things. Edward Sensabaugh: Mm. Marc Richardson: Its the best remote ever. Edward Sensabaugh: So Marc Richardson: Pinball. Edward Sensabaugh: Oh. Oh he's totally off again. Well Benjamin Lefler: No man. You just have to push harder. Joseph Johnson: Yeah you have to push harder. Edward Sensabaugh: But when I start here, Joseph Johnson: Mm. Edward Sensabaugh: it's here. So Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Marc Richardson: Yes, Edward Sensabaugh: is Marc Richardson: but Edward Sensabaugh: it Marc Richardson: you you get really close to the screen with your hand, and I don't think that's Benjamin Lefler: Mm. Marc Richardson: Hmm. Benjamin Lefler: Recalibrate Edward Sensabaugh: Nope. Benjamin Lefler: it. Joseph Johnson: Where's the good old chalk board with the Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: the green board with the, how do you call it, chalk, yeah. Marc Richardson: We can better uh draw a design on this. Joseph Johnson: Yeah, maybe. Marc Richardson: Yeah, but we can't. Joseph Johnson: Maybe if i if that thing is recalibrated, we can draw a thing quick, and then before it uh Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: goes Edward Sensabaugh: Let's Joseph Johnson: off Edward Sensabaugh: go. Joseph Johnson: again. Marc Richardson: Well Benjamin Lefler: Finish meeting now. Edward Sensabaugh: Finish the meeting now. Alright now we know what to do, so Marc Richardson: We'll stay here? Edward Sensabaugh: Um Benjamin Lefler: Yeah. Oh. Marc Richardson: Or we'll get the Joseph Johnson: Maybe Marc Richardson: email. Edward Sensabaugh: Message? Joseph Johnson: w maybe Edward Sensabaugh: No, Joseph Johnson: we Edward Sensabaugh: get Joseph Johnson: maybe Edward Sensabaugh: away. Joseph Johnson: w m Can we get email here? Huh? Yeah. Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: Guess so. Edward Sensabaugh: Um I I'm not sure. Maybe you Yeah. Well you'll have Marc Richardson: Well Edward Sensabaugh: to Marc Richardson: we'll Edward Sensabaugh: work on Marc Richardson: wait Edward Sensabaugh: this one. Marc Richardson: a few seconds Edward Sensabaugh: Yeah. Marc Richardson: and then we'll get an email. Edward Sensabaugh: That's a good idea. Benjamin Lefler: Alright. Have fun lads. Edward Sensabaugh: Well Marc Richardson: Yeah. Joseph Johnson: A happy Edward Sensabaugh: Good Joseph Johnson: hol Edward Sensabaugh: luck. Joseph Johnson: happy holidays.	For the conceptual design, Benjamin Lefler talked about the public's preference for looks and texture over technological innovation; however, they both seem to be more important than ease of use. The current fashion among younger people favours bright colours and fruit and vegetable themes: pertinent exchangeable fronts can express such trends on the remote. Materials also need to be strong: Benjamin Lefler suggested an iron-plate or titanium front. Joseph Johnson suggested they use rubber push buttons (and no scroll wheel), simple battery (instead of solar cells or kinetic dynamo), and advanced chip. Speech recognition can be implemented, but it does not link speech commands to remote control actions. He also advised that the users within the target group prefer primary colours, soft textures and curved shapes. The team drew a provisional prototype. They placed the LCD below the buttons. If it is implemented, a recording button, microphone and speaker need to be included in the design. Finally, they decided to have a titanium case with plastic front and the company logo and slogan engraved. Packages with a variety of changeable fronts will be launched.	3	amisum	train
James Gatson: Uh fourth meeting. Steven Christopher: We have to do what? James Gatson: Some extra deciding. Brian Dyer: W what? Alri Steven Christopher: Oh. Brian Dyer: alright. James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: We'll see. James Gatson: I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting. Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype. Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: Then um I guess that's your bit? Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: I I didn't s see anything about it, so I already uh thought you uh you were to do that. So the you're uh. I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this Steven Christopher: Mm. James Gatson: uh design. Brian Dyer: Yeah, that's important too. Yeah. James Gatson: And then we'll Steven Christopher: Bit late. James Gatson: evaluate, after after we have redesigned it. Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close. Brian Dyer: Alright. James Gatson: Well the finance uh we'll do later, so um firstly uh I'll show you the notes. I don't think it's very interesting. Steven Christopher: I think it is. James Gatson: Oh nei. Uh no. Alright. This is copy paste. So Brian Dyer: From Jeffrey Adorno of course, yeah. James Gatson: Of course. You had Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: some Brian Dyer: from us James Gatson: very Brian Dyer: all, yeah, James Gatson: strange Brian Dyer: from James Gatson: layout. Brian Dyer: all of us. Yeah. It's a nice chorus, yeah. James Gatson: Well um We ge we went through the agenda, and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again. Brian Dyer: Repeat it yeah. James Gatson: So uh Brian Dyer: Alright. James Gatson: This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So Jeffrey Adorno: Okay. James Gatson: we still know that. And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us. Brian Dyer: Alright, we both uh will? James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Or one of us will? Steven Christopher: Alright. Brian Dyer: Uh Steven Christopher: No you go and I'll uh Brian Dyer: Alright. If I Steven Christopher: supplement Brian Dyer: make mistakes Steven Christopher: you. Brian Dyer: uh you'll uh Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: Correct. Brian Dyer: Right. Uh well this is our design. Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um which is made of hard plastic, the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours, and James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns James Gatson: Mm-hmm. Brian Dyer: and pictures and everything. But basically, different colours, bright colours not black, too dark. Fancy colours. Um then we have uh the lower part of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually, because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view, that only this part is the front, and the rest of it, the under uh the under side uh of it, yeah, the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium, and has the titanium colour of course, the look. Um James Gatson: Mm. Brian Dyer: then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner, uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back, part of the titanium uh Steven Christopher: Yeah, it's a double R_, Brian Dyer: titanium Steven Christopher: but Brian Dyer: part. Yeah? Steven Christopher: It's a double R_. Brian Dyer: It's a double R_. Yeah the Steven Christopher: But Brian Dyer: logo Uh uh Steven Christopher: it's James Gatson: Yeah, Steven Christopher: very difficult James Gatson: alright. Brian Dyer: it's Steven Christopher: to to Brian Dyer: difficult Steven Christopher: draw Brian Dyer: to draw Steven Christopher: that in Brian Dyer: so small, but Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: it's our double R_ uh James Gatson: Okay. Brian Dyer: logo is in there. James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round I think oval will be better for Steven Christopher: Oval Brian Dyer: the Steven Christopher: yeah. Brian Dyer: for the d for the different James Gatson: Alright. Brian Dyer: uh channel buttons. So uh oval, n those are here. And then we have the m The m Steven Christopher: Channel up and volume? Brian Dyer: Yeah the the con the the the, yeah, the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes, which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: of James Gatson: Mm-hmm. Brian Dyer: the of the operators, of the channel and uh volume um changers. And then we've here the Menu button and the James Gatson: Alright. Steven Christopher: Menu for Brian Dyer: And Steven Christopher: the Brian Dyer: the video Steven Christopher: L_C_D_ Brian Dyer: button. Steven Christopher: screen. Brian Dyer: The Jeffrey Adorno: Mm right. James Gatson: So Brian Dyer: Yeah. And of course this low part, this is the L_C_D_ screen. James Gatson: 'Kay. Brian Dyer: Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: if you want. Steven Christopher: Well, at James Gatson: if Steven Christopher: the back James Gatson: I look at it, the side the side view Brian Dyer: Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: talk and then you can add James Gatson: Oh Brian Dyer: suggestions. James Gatson: yeah alright. Brian Dyer: Maybe I I don't want to James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick. Um okay I've had everything I guess on Steven Christopher: No Brian Dyer: the Steven Christopher: the Brian Dyer: front? Steven Christopher: back. the Brian Dyer: Yeah Steven Christopher: logo Brian Dyer: the back. Yeah. Steven Christopher: and our uh l uh Brian Dyer: We thought about Yeah, uh the back is of course totally titanium. And we thought about the logo big in the middle. James Gatson: Mm-hmm. Brian Dyer: Just so again the double R_. We have Jeffrey Adorno: Mm-hmm. Brian Dyer: then the logo on front and on the back. Maybe that's James Gatson: Okay. Brian Dyer: too much but Steven Christopher: No Brian Dyer: you Steven Christopher: I don't Brian Dyer: have to Steven Christopher: think Brian Dyer: say uh say that if you think that way. And Steven Christopher: And the Brian Dyer: the company slogan, we thought in a kind of arc James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: shape Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: uh above the logo. That's basically what we were thinking about, and James Gatson: Okay. Steven Christopher: And about James Gatson: W Steven Christopher: the side view um This the front won't be as thick, but James Gatson: Well I Steven Christopher: again James Gatson: see, but Steven Christopher: th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to Brian Dyer: Oh and uh Steven Christopher: to Brian Dyer: before Steven Christopher: really Brian Dyer: I forget. Steven Christopher: uh James Gatson: Well. Brian Dyer: Yeah the the voice, James Gatson: Yeah Brian Dyer: of course, James Gatson: I see Brian Dyer: the voice James Gatson: it. Brian Dyer: recorder is uh at the bottom. James Gatson: Yes. Brian Dyer: And you can record it uh using, yeah, the the James Gatson: When I Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: look Brian Dyer: back James Gatson: at Brian Dyer: of Steven Christopher: Well, Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: uh Steven Christopher: it Brian Dyer: f Steven Christopher: won't James Gatson: when Steven Christopher: be visible. James Gatson: I look at Brian Dyer: w James Gatson: this Brian Dyer: device. James Gatson: side view, Steven Christopher: Mm? James Gatson: I think w when I have that in my hand, it's terrible. If Brian Dyer: Why? James Gatson: if you look if if this this is thick, and this is thin, th th then Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: it that Brian Dyer: it fits James Gatson: it lies over your hands. Brian Dyer: uh it James Gatson: But Brian Dyer: it it it fits the hand, mean Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: uh the the Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: the Jeffrey Adorno: I Brian Dyer: the Jeffrey Adorno: agree. James Gatson: what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle, so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker, so Steven Christopher: If James Gatson: th then Steven Christopher: y James Gatson: it falls over your hands. Steven Christopher: If you handle a remote, you you usually don't have your hand straight Brian Dyer: In Steven Christopher: like Brian Dyer: the middle Steven Christopher: this. You Brian Dyer: in the Steven Christopher: you have it a bit Jeffrey Adorno: It depends Steven Christopher: uh Jeffrey Adorno: on the size. Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: If it's kinda small, this is is great. But if it's it's larger, then you want to grab it. James Gatson: And how Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: large is it? Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, that's the question. Brian Dyer: That's the question. Uh well Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do? This James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: was James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: Mike's prototype, and y you seemed to agreed on it. But now James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: you James Gatson: the Brian Dyer: have James Gatson: sides Brian Dyer: a totally James Gatson: I Brian Dyer: different. James Gatson: haven't seen yet, uh? Steven Christopher: Well, Brian Dyer: The size? Yeah Steven Christopher: they Brian Dyer: well Steven Christopher: lay there Brian Dyer: the size James Gatson: They the Steven Christopher: all Brian Dyer: doesn't James Gatson: the Steven Christopher: the time. James Gatson: the Brian Dyer: really James Gatson: the Brian Dyer: matter James Gatson: the side Brian Dyer: w I mean James Gatson: view, Brian Dyer: Side? Uh James Gatson: we Brian Dyer: oh James Gatson: didn't Brian Dyer: the side? James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: W we we he drew the s the Steven Christopher: Yeah Brian Dyer: side, Steven Christopher: yeah. Brian Dyer: but you d you weren't paying attention as usual. Well any case, we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this, and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle, James Gatson: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: your hand might be over it. Brian Dyer: But you you hold it like this. Steven Christopher: Yeah you Brian Dyer: You're not holding it like this Steven Christopher: you don't Brian Dyer: or something. Steven Christopher: you don't grab it, you you Brian Dyer: You, yeah, y How do you call it? Yeah. Well y y y you don't have it like this. You James Gatson: No Brian Dyer: have James Gatson: no Brian Dyer: it James Gatson: no. Brian Dyer: more like this. using buttons this way, or Jeffrey Adorno: Like Brian Dyer: if you're Jeffrey Adorno: you're Brian Dyer: right-handed, Jeffrey Adorno: holding your telephone. Brian Dyer: this James Gatson: Yep. Brian Dyer: way. Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: So you Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: Because Brian Dyer: So Jeffrey Adorno: if you have a screen on it, you wanna look at your screen. Steven Christopher: Hmm. Brian Dyer: Yeah Steven Christopher: That Brian Dyer: well Steven Christopher: way, it it falls into your hand. I think. James Gatson: Okay. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I Brian Dyer: And Jeffrey Adorno: agree Brian Dyer: maybe Jeffrey Adorno: on Brian Dyer: you Jeffrey Adorno: this. Brian Dyer: can you can grab it a bit higher, so Well Jeffrey Adorno: No, I don't think so. That's not uh Steven Christopher: No but but Brian Dyer: Well Jeffrey Adorno: the Brian Dyer: the Jeffrey Adorno: point Brian Dyer: the Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side, but Steven Christopher: Well f for as far as I can see, three of us agree and James Gatson: Yeah Steven Christopher: only James Gatson: well Steven Christopher: Nils James Gatson: uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it. Steven Christopher: But you're James Gatson, you can make the hard decisions. James Gatson: Yes. So Brian Dyer: If James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: necessary. James Gatson: I c Brian Dyer: But James Gatson: I c Brian Dyer: uh James Gatson: Well, Brian Dyer: are d James Gatson: we'll Brian Dyer: Can you James Gatson: we Brian Dyer: live James Gatson: we'll Brian Dyer: with James Gatson: do Brian Dyer: it? James Gatson: it Brian Dyer: Uh James Gatson: like this. Steven Christopher: Yeah? 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Jeffrey Adorno: be Brian Dyer: So Jeffrey Adorno: uh You might be target customer. Brian Dyer: Yeah. Well James Gatson: Yes Brian Dyer: uh who who Steven Christopher: Mm. James Gatson: but Brian Dyer: else thinks like you? We don't know. Maybe James Gatson: Yeah, we Brian Dyer: a James Gatson: don't Brian Dyer: thousand James Gatson: know, but Brian Dyer: people, James Gatson: that's Brian Dyer: or James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: a million people. James Gatson: that's that's that's more market research. So let it be like this at uh Brian Dyer: Let James Gatson: at this Brian Dyer: it James Gatson: moment. Brian Dyer: be. Alright. James Gatson: Okay? Brian Dyer: So that's that. Uh any other suggestions? James Gatson: No, I think it's great. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Steven Christopher: But what about the redesigning? James Gatson: Comes to that later. Steven Christopher: Okay. James Gatson: Um you. Uh c You can uh Walter. Brian Dyer: You're very personal James Gatson: You can do the Brian Dyer: again. James Gatson: evaluation uh criteria on this? Jeffrey Adorno: Alright. Great. James Gatson: That's more useful than just speaking. Jeffrey Adorno: Well, this is just a short intro. I'm James Gatson: Yes. Jeffrey Adorno: going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria. So I made a I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and James Gatson: Mm-hmm. Jeffrey Adorno: trends. And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well, I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm. James Gatson: 'Kay. Jeffrey Adorno: Well Steven Christopher: Hmm. Jeffrey Adorno: I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation, so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is, uh is the device good-looking? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think? Brian Dyer: Well d we designed it, so of course we are very Steven Christopher: Mm. James Gatson: Yeah, Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah James Gatson: we're we're not quite uh objective about Brian Dyer: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: No, James Gatson: this. Steven Christopher: Well Jeffrey Adorno: I know, but Steven Christopher: we designed it to be good-looking. Jeffrey Adorno: I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire. Brian Dyer: So and James Gatson: To Brian Dyer: we James Gatson: the customers? Brian Dyer: ha we have answer now? James Gatson: To Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah James Gatson: potential Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: customers who have to take this Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, James Gatson: questionnaire? Jeffrey Adorno: but I can't James Gatson: Nei. Jeffrey Adorno: can James Gatson: Oh no. Jeffrey Adorno: s Steven Christopher: Hmm. James Gatson: I know, I know, I know. But um Well we can go, uh because of the time, uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking? Well we think so. Brian Dyer: I James Gatson: Uh Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: Yeah, I Steven Christopher: We Brian Dyer: think Steven Christopher: designed Jeffrey Adorno: but Brian Dyer: it Steven Christopher: it Jeffrey Adorno: uh, Steven Christopher: to Jeffrey Adorno: you Steven Christopher: be Jeffrey Adorno: know Steven Christopher: good-looking, James Gatson: Yeah. Steven Christopher: so Jeffrey Adorno: We dis we di we designed it to be perfect. So But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we we James Gatson: Well, Jeffrey Adorno: know where we stand. James Gatson: one. Jeffrey Adorno: 'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten. James Gatson: Well so it's point four. 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Steven Christopher: The James Gatson: to use? Yes we have not many buttons. Brian Dyer: So well maybe two Jeffrey Adorno: Well, Brian Dyer: because Steven Christopher: Two James Gatson: Two, Brian Dyer: of the voice Jeffrey Adorno: with James Gatson: three. Brian Dyer: recorder. Steven Christopher: two. Jeffrey Adorno: the uh Three. Steven Christopher: T James Gatson: Are Brian Dyer: F James Gatson: the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented? Well in our covers, Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: in our fronts. So Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: yes, one. Brian Dyer: One or two. James Gatson: Is Steven Christopher: One Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: the material Steven Christopher: or two, another Jeffrey Adorno: Nah James Gatson: attractive? Steven Christopher: two. Jeffrey Adorno: f four I think. Brian Dyer: Four? Jeffrey Adorno: If you look at this Brian Dyer: Well, it doesn't really resemble any fruit, uh that's true. Jeffrey Adorno: No. Brian Dyer: But but we have the the the the the James Gatson: Oh okay. Brian Dyer: sparkly fruity Steven Christopher: Well Brian Dyer: colours Steven Christopher: three. Brian Dyer: of course. Jeffrey Adorno: Three, James Gatson: Okay. Jeffrey Adorno: alright. Brian Dyer: And you can also have front with uh with Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, that's true. James Gatson: Is Brian Dyer: fruit James Gatson: the material Jeffrey Adorno: But Brian Dyer: on Steven Christopher: Mm. James Gatson: attractive? Well Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: the titanium Brian Dyer: it. James Gatson: is strong, and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft. So I would say at least two. Jeffrey Adorno: Right. James Gatson: Okay. Well Yeah. Steven Christopher: This is the last meeting? James Gatson: Yes, but we Jeffrey Adorno: The Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: average James Gatson: we have to design Jeffrey Adorno: will uh James Gatson: much Jeffrey Adorno: come later. James Gatson: more, because there was some irritating account manager coming to Jeffrey Adorno. Brian Dyer: I James Gatson: Um Brian Dyer: knew things uh were going uh James Gatson: Oh. Brian Dyer: too smoothly. There had James Gatson: Uh Brian Dyer: to be some kind of trouble Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: along James Gatson: Yes. Brian Dyer: the way. James Gatson: Well, look at the costs at this point. Brian Dyer: My god. James Gatson: I had to fit it in. Jeffrey Adorno: It has to go to twelve, right? James Gatson: I twelve and a half. Jeffrey Adorno: Twelve and a half. James Gatson: So Well what costs a lot? The sample spea costs four. Brian Dyer: The what? The James Gatson: The sample speaker, Jeffrey Adorno: Out. James Gatson: the s sensor. Jeffrey Adorno: That's easy. Kick it out. James Gatson: Kick it out. Steven Christopher: The what? Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: We have to go to twelve and a Jeffrey Adorno: The James Gatson: half. Jeffrey Adorno: speaker. 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Y t come on, Steven Christopher: Um Jeffrey Adorno: Uh no, James Gatson: w Jeffrey Adorno: no James Gatson: a remote Jeffrey Adorno: no James Gatson: control Brian Dyer: N Jeffrey Adorno: no. James Gatson: has a battery. Brian Dyer: Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think. Because Steven Christopher: Well well Brian Dyer: uh Steven Christopher: why why why should we use a advanced chip? James Gatson: Well be for the Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: L_C_D_ Brian Dyer: L_C_D_ James Gatson: uh you Brian Dyer: screen. James Gatson: had said. Brian Dyer: Yeah. Steven Christopher: Yeah? Jeffrey Adorno: Hmm. Steven Christopher: Can't we do that with a regular chip? Brian Dyer: No. Steven Christopher: Why not? Brian Dyer: Because uh that uh y James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: because James Gatson: what what's the difference between Brian Dyer: my information James Gatson: simple Brian Dyer: says James Gatson: and regular? Brian Dyer: it. Huh? James Gatson: What's the difference between a simple Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: and Steven Christopher: Regular James Gatson: a regular chip? Steven Christopher: is normal. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: And simple? Brian Dyer: Uh Steven Christopher: Simple. Brian Dyer: well James Gatson: Nothing. Brian Dyer: yeah I I read something about it, but Steven Christopher: Elementary. James Gatson: Well? Brian Dyer: Yeah, I James Gatson: Your part. Brian Dyer: I read something about it, but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report. James Gatson: What happens if we do Brian Dyer: Single Well you have to use a chip. So Well you have James Gatson: How Brian Dyer: to James Gatson: much Brian Dyer: use James Gatson: do we Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: win? Brian Dyer: advanced Steven Christopher: We we Brian Dyer: chip, Steven Christopher: we James Gatson: One. Brian Dyer: if you have Steven Christopher: Why? Brian Dyer: the L_C_D_ screen. Steven Christopher: We have very little options furthermore, for the Brian Dyer: But James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: if you have a regular chip, you can't have the L_C_D_ screen. Steven Christopher: Uh well we have to put Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Steven Christopher: that in. Jeffrey Adorno: we need to have the the L_C_D_ Brian Dyer: That that's Jeffrey Adorno: screen. Brian Dyer: a fact. James Gatson: Well, Brian Dyer: Uh James Gatson: we could say, well this special colour, that Jeffrey Adorno: No James Gatson: isn't that that isn't there, because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: Yeah, but it's Jeffrey Adorno: but Brian Dyer: only Steven Christopher: Nah. Brian Dyer: one half. Jeffrey Adorno: No, Brian Dyer: Uh Jeffrey Adorno: that's Brian Dyer: it d Jeffrey Adorno: n Brian Dyer: it doesn't Jeffrey Adorno: It's not relevant. James Gatson: Yeah, Steven Christopher: Yeah, you must change James Gatson: then Steven Christopher: the James Gatson: you Steven Christopher: chip James Gatson: s then Steven Christopher: uh James Gatson: you only Steven Christopher: back. James Gatson: have one half left. Steven Christopher: You Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Steven Christopher: must change the chip back, Nils. James Gatson: Uh yeah. Brian Dyer: But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen. Jeffrey Adorno: No, Then the whole concept is uh Brian Dyer: Yeah, I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh Steven Christopher: Hmm. Brian Dyer: put Jeffrey Adorno: You Brian Dyer: uh the advanced chip Steven Christopher: No Brian Dyer: in there for fun. Jeffrey Adorno: You Steven Christopher: we Jeffrey Adorno: can make Steven Christopher: oh Jeffrey Adorno: you Brian Dyer: You Jeffrey Adorno: can Brian Dyer: have Jeffrey Adorno: make Brian Dyer: to use Jeffrey Adorno: it cheaper. Brian Dyer: it. Jeffrey Adorno: But if you don't sell Steven Christopher: You James Gatson: Yeah. Steven Christopher: you we have an advanced chip-on-print, and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's James Gatson: Yeah? Steven Christopher: a bit double. Y James Gatson: No, Steven Christopher: we don't need both. James Gatson: the advanced chip is needed to Brian Dyer: For James Gatson: have Brian Dyer: the L_C_D_ James Gatson: an L_C_D_ Brian Dyer: screen. James Gatson: display. Brian Dyer: Yeah. Yeah. Steven Christopher: Says. James Gatson: Says, his Uh that was in the second meeting, I think. Brian Dyer: Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again? Because we you James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: have James Gatson: I Brian Dyer: uncurved James Gatson: I did single curve to Well you said s double Steven Christopher: I? James Gatson: curved, uh he, Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already. We can Jeffrey Adorno: No James Gatson: also Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: make it flat. Jeffrey Adorno: no Brian Dyer: But Jeffrey Adorno: no Brian Dyer: what Jeffrey Adorno: no. Brian Dyer: what James Gatson: But Brian Dyer: did what do n Sorry, but What do they mean with the curves? Is th James Gatson: Curved? Yes, Brian Dyer: Is this James Gatson: that's Brian Dyer: a James Gatson: curved. Brian Dyer: curve? One curve? Yeah, this James Gatson: Yes. Brian Dyer: is actually two curves, yeah. It's James Gatson: No, Brian Dyer: how James Gatson: it's Brian Dyer: you James Gatson: one Brian Dyer: It's James Gatson: curve. Brian Dyer: how you look at Steven Christopher: One Brian Dyer: it. Steven Christopher: curve. James Gatson: One curve, simple. Brian Dyer: Well then we have a huge problem I think. W t we can never get uh below the James Gatson: We Brian Dyer: twelve James Gatson: have a big Brian Dyer: and a James Gatson: financial Brian Dyer: half. James Gatson: problem. Steven Christopher: Well we make it more expensive to buy. James Gatson: Well, then we have two dollars less profit. Come on, if we if we if we make this fifty million, they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us, so uh Jeffrey Adorno: If if you make people brand-aware, they are willing to pay more. But Brian Dyer: But uh I Jeffrey Adorno: Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy. Steven Christopher: Yeah or we could Jeffrey Adorno: If you if Steven Christopher: replace Jeffrey Adorno: you make it cool Steven Christopher: it Jeffrey Adorno: to have James Gatson: By the way, we also have this one. Jeffrey Adorno: Oh, that's just great. James Gatson: Oh, costs nothing. Jeffrey Adorno: Oh, James Gatson: That's nice. Jeffrey Adorno: alright. James Gatson: Plastic Brian Dyer: Hey but uh James Gatson: is Brian Dyer: I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen, it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing. James Gatson: Yes, but I just got it. Brian Dyer: Well Steven Christopher: Why Brian Dyer: that's pretty Steven Christopher: why Brian Dyer: uh Steven Christopher: don't we Brian Dyer: l Steven Christopher: replace Jeffrey Adorno: That is Steven Christopher: the titanium Jeffrey Adorno: pretty stupid. Brian Dyer: N Steven Christopher: with Brian Dyer: not Steven Christopher: uh Brian Dyer: very practical. Steven Christopher: plastic Brian Dyer: Well Steven Christopher: coloured titanium, uh James Gatson: Who? Steven Christopher: titanium-coloured plastic? James Gatson: You want to dump the titanium? Steven Christopher: Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper. James Gatson: And make all plastic, then we ha then we're there. Brian Dyer: But I'm n I don't agree. Steven Christopher: But Brian Dyer: I think Steven Christopher: then we we've got to uh James Gatson: Th then Steven Christopher: run James Gatson: you Steven Christopher: through James Gatson: have Steven Christopher: the James Gatson: a Steven Christopher: eval James Gatson: ugly, Steven Christopher: evaluation James Gatson: stupid, Steven Christopher: process again. James Gatson: l ugly looking, dumb remote Steven Christopher: Ah no James Gatson: that Steven Christopher: no. James Gatson: that no-one would buy. Steven Christopher: It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same. James Gatson: No, I don't think so. Jeffrey Adorno: Y Steven Christopher: Well, I Brian Dyer: I Steven Christopher: do Brian Dyer: think Steven Christopher: think so. Brian Dyer: the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and James Gatson: Yes. Brian Dyer: the and the James Gatson: And the feel, Steven Christopher: feel. James Gatson: and th that it is strong, and Brian Dyer: And also the the older people will like it because of that. And Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: because i Jeffrey Adorno: I Brian Dyer: Alright Jeffrey Adorno: agree. Brian Dyer: it's not our target audience, but it's it's useful James Gatson: We still Brian Dyer: if it's uh James Gatson: we had to focus Brian Dyer: important for old James Gatson: to Brian Dyer: people. James Gatson: get more people Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: from the younger group, but not lose the one Brian Dyer: I think the titanium is very important. Steven Christopher: Yeah alright but then we we Brian Dyer: Yeah Steven Christopher: won't Brian Dyer: we have a Steven Christopher: get Brian Dyer: problem, Steven Christopher: there. Brian Dyer: yeah. W But you can better, yeah, dump the L_C_D_ screen Steven Christopher: We Brian Dyer: then. Steven Christopher: can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think. Jeffrey Adorno: I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen. Brian Dyer: Well what else? W I Steven Christopher: No, Brian Dyer: mean Steven Christopher: nothing. Brian Dyer: uh Jeffrey Adorno: Or you shou Steven Christopher: Amen. Jeffrey Adorno: It's Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change Brian Dyer: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: than lose the L_C_D_ screen. Because you have lots of functions in it too. Brian Dyer: Yeah, Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: well yeah. Alright. James Gatson: Why can't Brian Dyer: I James Gatson: I Brian Dyer: agree Steven Christopher: But Brian Dyer: with that. So we u we use uh Unfortunately. Um. James Gatson: I'll put in the report Brian Dyer: Titanium-coloured James Gatson: we that we think that fourteen Brian Dyer: plastic. James Gatson: point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I James Gatson: days. Jeffrey Adorno: agree. Brian Dyer: So titanium-coloured plastic for the back. James Gatson: I I'll talk to the managers. Steven Christopher: No no no no. W Titanium stays there. James Gatson: Titanium, I thi I think this this is this is e really good re Brian Dyer: Yeah Jeffrey Adorno: Osl Brian Dyer: this is James Gatson: remote. Brian Dyer: good, but it it's not James Gatson: But Brian Dyer: good enough. So we have to use the ditch the titanium, I'm afraid. James Gatson: Ah those Steven Christopher: Well James Gatson: those account managers, what do th d what do they know? Come on. Brian Dyer: What James Gatson: Riot. Brian Dyer: do we Well what do we know? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really James Gatson: Yes, Brian Dyer: consider the costs. James Gatson: yes. Brian Dyer: So Steven Christopher: No because we did not know anything about Jeffrey Adorno: If Steven Christopher: it. Brian Dyer: Yeah Jeffrey Adorno: you James Gatson: One Jeffrey Adorno: don't Brian Dyer: al James Gatson: and Jeffrey Adorno: have Brian Dyer: alright, James Gatson: a Jeffrey Adorno: the James Gatson: half Jeffrey Adorno: money, James Gatson: Euros. Brian Dyer: yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: you can't Brian Dyer: But Jeffrey Adorno: make it. James Gatson: Hmm? Brian Dyer: we Jeffrey Adorno: So Brian Dyer: have Jeffrey Adorno: s Brian Dyer: to deal with it now. So Jeffrey Adorno: If you don't have the money, you can't make it. So this is too expensive. James Gatson: So? Brian Dyer: So Jeffrey Adorno: So we have to make it cheaper. Brian Dyer: Titanium gone and add plastic. Jeffrey Adorno: Right. Steven Christopher: Yeah, but then we've got money left. Brian Dyer: And on plastic times two and then we uh are there? James Gatson: Well, no it's just uh all plastic. Brian Dyer: No James Gatson: Well alright. Brian Dyer: No James Gatson: Huh. Brian Dyer: yeah well Oh six. A lot of plastic, Jeffrey Adorno: It's Brian Dyer: yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: just free, man. James Gatson: Four. So Brian Dyer: No two for the to make it clear. James Gatson: But then we can add the special colour? Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: As we have money over uh left. Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: And we still Steven Christopher: W James Gatson: have money left. What do we want, guys? Brian Dyer: I want gold plating. No no Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah right. Brian Dyer: um Jeffrey Adorno: I want chrome. Steven Christopher: Well I think uh the case is double curved then. James Gatson: Yes. Steven Christopher: Because Brian Dyer: We have Steven Christopher: you y have that Brian Dyer: we Steven Christopher: curve Brian Dyer: have to Steven Christopher: and Brian Dyer: uh Steven Christopher: you have Brian Dyer: fill James Gatson: Y Oh Steven Christopher: that James Gatson: no. Steven Christopher: curve. Brian Dyer: W Steven Christopher: Yeah Brian Dyer: we ha Jeffrey Adorno: Well, Steven Christopher: well Jeffrey Adorno: th that Steven Christopher: uh Jeffrey Adorno: that James Gatson: Alright. Jeffrey Adorno: is the problem. Brian Dyer: No no no, but th that's James Gatson: Safe. Brian Dyer: not f um Steven Christopher: Well y we have curves Brian Dyer: Well Steven Christopher: in all Brian Dyer: you Steven Christopher: directions. Brian Dyer: can you can double curve, if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped, so it James Gatson: So Brian Dyer: it can be done. James Gatson: alright. Brian Dyer: But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it James Gatson: Finance? Steven Christopher: I mean, Brian Dyer: isn't bad to to to stay Steven Christopher: this Brian Dyer: at eleven. Steven Christopher: this ain't titanium, but it looks like it. Brian Dyer: We James Gatson: Well, Brian Dyer: get more salary, James Gatson: guys? Brian Dyer: if we make Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: if cheaper James Gatson: Guys? Brian Dyer: than twelve uh James Gatson: We Brian Dyer: twelve James Gatson: have Brian Dyer: and James Gatson: to Brian Dyer: a Jeffrey Adorno: Shoot. Brian Dyer: half. James Gatson: dump our titanium, and we'll hate the managers for that, but now we're going to Brian Dyer: Objection. James Gatson: evaluate our project, of uh project, Steven Christopher: Pro project. James Gatson: project. Well, satisfaction on for example, are we satisfactory about our creativity? Brian Dyer: Well I can't get no satisfaction, but uh I think it's uh Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best, yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: I think it's terrible Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: that we got uh those costs at the last moment. Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Jeffrey Adorno too. James Gatson: That's really bad. Brian Dyer: Its it's James Gatson: But Brian Dyer: uh ridiculous actually, Steven Christopher: And James Gatson: that Steven Christopher: uh Brian Dyer: but James Gatson: that Steven Christopher: unrealistic. James Gatson: that's that, yeah that's a reason, but also for our creativity. We had um nice design, and then you get the cost, and you had to dump all your creativity. Steven Christopher: Well Jeffrey Adorno: Right. Steven Christopher: we we we used our creativity, but we just had to adapt it to the costs. Brian Dyer: Which isn't very practical, but James Gatson: Yeah. Steven Christopher: Nei. Brian Dyer: that's the way. Steven Christopher: Uh no. James Gatson: Well, Brian Dyer: Uh-huh. James Gatson: alright. Uh leadership next. Steven Christopher: Terrible. James Gatson: Uh teamwork? Jeffrey Adorno: Leadership. Steven Christopher: Leadership? Jeffrey Adorno: Well Steven Christopher: Well Jeffrey Adorno: it's It was very democratic. James Gatson: Uh yeah Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: well I think Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: so also. I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time, so Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah yeah. James Gatson: Well the managers were terrible. So, with their all their useless requirements. But o alright, Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: the teamwork? Brian Dyer: uh they they didn't think of the requirements. It's the requirements of the user, uh I guess. James Gatson: No they said, oh we won't d uh we won't uh use Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: teletext, uh we won't use the D_V_D_. Brian Dyer: Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications. James Gatson: Alright, teamwork? Jeffrey Adorno: Well James Gatson: Well great I think. Steven Christopher: Right Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Steven Christopher: yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: think so too. James Gatson: Uh well what do you, what did you think about the SMARTboard? Brian Dyer: It was a complete disaster. No Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I Brian Dyer: Uh James Gatson: Well Jeffrey Adorno: don't Brian Dyer: it it it Jeffrey Adorno: like Steven Christopher: No, Brian Dyer: uh Jeffrey Adorno: it. Steven Christopher: that's Brian Dyer: it is Steven Christopher: a SMARTboard, Brian Dyer: uh Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah? Steven Christopher: and that's a digital pen. James Gatson: It's Steven Christopher: Or James Gatson: also Steven Christopher: not? James Gatson: a It's both Brian Dyer: No James Gatson: the Brian Dyer: it's James Gatson: SMARTboards. Brian Dyer: other way around. That's the SMARTboard. That's James Gatson: I liked Brian Dyer: the digital James Gatson: this Brian Dyer: panel. James Gatson: SMARTboard, Jeffrey Adorno: This James Gatson: but I hated Jeffrey Adorno: this James Gatson: that one. Jeffrey Adorno: this isn't a SMARTboard, James Gatson: Well it's Jeffrey Adorno: right? James Gatson: both a SMARTboard. Brian Dyer: That's that's the smart Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah right. B but you This is Steven Christopher: Oh Jeffrey Adorno: just Steven Christopher: they're both Jeffrey Adorno: a large Steven Christopher: SMARTboards. Jeffrey Adorno: t large television. James Gatson: No. Jeffrey Adorno: You u you use the Brian Dyer: A televi James Gatson: It's both Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: a SMARTboard, but this one is used for a desktop, and that one is used to to Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, James Gatson: draw. Jeffrey Adorno: but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here, on this one, you can uh draw the pictures and things James Gatson: Well, Jeffrey Adorno: like that. James Gatson: wi w which Jeffrey Adorno: But James Gatson: one did you like? Brian Dyer: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: That one. Brian Dyer: Left or right? Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: That one. Jeffrey Adorno: That one isn't accurate. It just James Gatson: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: doesn't work. You can Steven Christopher: But I I think this is meant by the digital pen. James Gatson: Yes. Th that is so. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: Well Jeffrey Adorno: but Brian Dyer: I didn't Jeffrey Adorno: I Brian Dyer: use Jeffrey Adorno: think Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: We're now Jeffrey Adorno: there's Brian Dyer: uh James Gatson: talking Jeffrey Adorno: a big James Gatson: about Jeffrey Adorno: distinction James Gatson: the SMARTboards. Jeffrey Adorno: between the these th I don't need a SMARTboard. Brian Dyer: Nei It Steven Christopher: Well Brian Dyer: it's much m Steven Christopher: we we used that one, Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Steven Christopher: and Jeffrey Adorno: but Steven Christopher: we needed Jeffrey Adorno: give Steven Christopher: it. I Jeffrey Adorno: Jeffrey Adorno Steven Christopher: think. Jeffrey Adorno: a beamer. That's uh that's much Steven Christopher: Yeah Jeffrey Adorno: uh Steven Christopher: alright, Jeffrey Adorno: much Steven Christopher: but Jeffrey Adorno: cheaper. James Gatson: Or install a laptop to a beamer, or have this one standing here in an I I like it. Jeffrey Adorno: Right. Steven Christopher: Yeah I like James Gatson: Okay, Steven Christopher: that James Gatson: alright. Steven Christopher: one, but that one is terrible. Brian Dyer: But uh you can uh I I sent it about three times now. Uh a green uh board with uh chalk is much James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: more useful than that Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: thing. James Gatson: Yeah, it is. Brian Dyer: The simple uh James Gatson: So Brian Dyer: sch Jeffrey Adorno: I agree. Brian Dyer: school board. James Gatson: And uh the digi the digital pen? Did uh did you like that one? Jeffrey Adorno: No. Brian Dyer: I I didn't use it. I wrote things down but I didn't James Gatson: I used Brian Dyer: import James Gatson: it Brian Dyer: it James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: into my James Gatson: just Brian Dyer: laptop. James Gatson: to check it out, but uh Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: You you Brian Dyer: That's James Gatson: can't Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: send that to anyone, Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: because you Jeffrey Adorno: It James Gatson: you've Jeffrey Adorno: isn't James Gatson: scrabbled Jeffrey Adorno: practical. James Gatson: something on a page for yourself, Jeffrey Adorno: Right. James Gatson: and then you're going to send it, yeah. Well, no. Brian Dyer: W But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your Jeffrey Adorno: Your Brian Dyer: your Jeffrey Adorno: notepad. Brian Dyer: note block. So Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: what's the what's James Gatson: It's, Brian Dyer: the James Gatson: no, Brian Dyer: th James Gatson: it Brian Dyer: what's James Gatson: it's useless. Brian Dyer: the point of importing it Steven Christopher: Well Brian Dyer: into Steven Christopher: I I drew this. Mm. And I made a mistake. But it it would have been uh useful, if James Gatson: Yes. Steven Christopher: I I could show this on the screen. Brian Dyer: Yeah alright. James Gatson: For Brian Dyer: For James Gatson: drawings, Brian Dyer: drawings, but James Gatson: yes. Steven Christopher: Yeah Brian Dyer: not Steven Christopher: for drawings. Brian Dyer: for personal notes. I think that's not very Steven Christopher: N notes mm. Brian Dyer: Uh I mean you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course James Gatson: But Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: if Jeffrey Adorno: it Brian Dyer: you Jeffrey Adorno: might Brian Dyer: have Jeffrey Adorno: be Brian Dyer: a lot Jeffrey Adorno: useful Brian Dyer: of paper Jeffrey Adorno: for drawings. Brian Dyer: If Jeffrey Adorno: I Brian Dyer: you've Jeffrey Adorno: I agree Steven Christopher: Mm. Jeffrey Adorno: on that. Brian Dyer: If James Gatson: But Brian Dyer: you've James Gatson: for notes, it i you you have to put that in a strict Uh you have to put a name, standard date, and all those things. And notes uh for a meeting are very strict. So if you uh were to write them down for yourself, and then put that in your computer, you still have to type it over to Word. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, James Gatson: So it Jeffrey Adorno: right. James Gatson: doesn't d doesn't have any Jeffrey Adorno: That Stefan Brian Dyer: Yeah Jeffrey Adorno: use. Brian Dyer: I understand. But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork. You can't It's not very uh ni Jeffrey Adorno: No, Brian Dyer: Yeah Jeffrey Adorno: I Brian Dyer: well Jeffrey Adorno: don't think so. Brian Dyer: a lot of documents Jeffrey Adorno: It's Brian Dyer: are Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: it's only useful if you have to Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: draw something. Steven Christopher: it's really useful, I think. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: Yep. Alright. Brian Dyer: Mu James Gatson: Um Brian Dyer: Yeah right. James Gatson: etcetera? Well uh the laptops? Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, great. James Gatson: Of course Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: great. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Steven Christopher: Hmm. Brian Dyer: Can we keep them? James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Uh. James Gatson: You can. B by my Jeffrey Adorno: Wireless uh wireless Steven Christopher: Thanks Project Jeffrey Adorno: things. Steven Christopher: Manager. James Gatson: Yeah. Other uh things we used here? I hated the cameras, I hated the microphones. Jeffrey Adorno: Well James Gatson: But Jeffrey Adorno: these James Gatson: No Jeffrey Adorno: chairs, Brian Dyer: Well Jeffrey Adorno: man. Brian Dyer: did you really uh Jeffrey Adorno: Really great. Brian Dyer: Did you really take uh take those in account? I James Gatson: No. Brian Dyer: half of time I didn't James Gatson: No. Brian Dyer: notice they were there. James Gatson: I Brian Dyer: So James Gatson: haven't looked w one time directly at the camera. I don't care about it. Steven Christopher: Well Brian Dyer: But Steven Christopher: I Brian Dyer: we Steven Christopher: did. Brian Dyer: shouldn't talk about that. Because this James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: is James Gatson: w Brian Dyer: a James Gatson: why Brian Dyer: realistic James Gatson: not? Brian Dyer: environment. James Gatson: Uh etcetera We Brian Dyer: Right. James Gatson: N new Brian Dyer: Okay. James Gatson: ideas found? What kind of ideas for n a future schedule What? For future um Steven Christopher: Well James Gatson: meetings you have Steven Christopher: I missed James Gatson: got? Steven Christopher: uh the option to uh Jeffrey Adorno: Communicate Steven Christopher: to email, Jeffrey Adorno: in between. Steven Christopher: yeah. Email Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, right. James Gatson: Chatting Steven Christopher: or chat Brian Dyer: But James Gatson: and Brian Dyer: yeah. Steven Christopher: or James Gatson: emailing. Steven Christopher: something. Brian Dyer: W Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with. So Steven Christopher: Yeah alright, but that's one n new idea. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I agree. James Gatson: Well, new ideas found by this. Not. Nothing. Jeffrey Adorno: Well, James Gatson: We Jeffrey Adorno: more James Gatson: don't Jeffrey Adorno: more James Gatson: want this. Jeffrey Adorno: information in the beginning. James Gatson: We hate this. Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: That's James Gatson: Digital pen is useless. Steven Christopher: No James Gatson: So Steven Christopher: it isn't. James Gatson: Yeah, Brian Dyer: Well, James Gatson: for drawings. Brian Dyer: for drawing for drawings. Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Yeah. Steven Christopher: So it isn't useless. James Gatson: But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings, because Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things, I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive, I'm not going to uh Jeffrey Adorno: For Brian Dyer: No Jeffrey Adorno: people who uh sketch th the whole day, I can Steven Christopher: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: imagine that it's useful. James Gatson: Well th Brian Dyer: But it's James Gatson: then Brian Dyer: still James Gatson: still Brian Dyer: an expensive James Gatson: they they they Brian Dyer: uh expensive James Gatson: should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop. Because this is huge Jeffrey Adorno: Well James Gatson: uh Steven Christopher: Well James Gatson: this Steven Christopher: you James Gatson: v Steven Christopher: you James Gatson: very Steven Christopher: can't you James Gatson: very Steven Christopher: can't James Gatson: uh Steven Christopher: draw James Gatson: expensive Steven Christopher: on a laptop James Gatson: paper. Steven Christopher: like you like you paint of or draw with your hand. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, I agree. Steven Christopher: With Brian Dyer: But Steven Christopher: the mouse Brian Dyer: if w Steven Christopher: it is Brian Dyer: Yeah. Steven Christopher: No. James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Well and Jeffrey Adorno: Mouse Brian Dyer: if Jeffrey Adorno: is ju just isn't working if you're sketching. Steven Christopher: Uh indeed. Brian Dyer: And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly, what uh would it be useful then, if it wasn't off all the time? James Gatson: Well no. I Brian Dyer: A James Gatson: hated to draw like that. You you can't Brian Dyer: Really? James Gatson: draw anything uh neat. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, but he's saying if it is correct, and you can draw very, Brian Dyer: Anything you want. Any b b Jeffrey Adorno: yeah, Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: I Jeffrey Adorno: very Brian Dyer: L li James Gatson: if Jeffrey Adorno: precise James Gatson: it Brian Dyer: li James Gatson: if it would be perfect following. Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: Well Brian Dyer: Well James Gatson: th Brian Dyer: it James Gatson: th Brian Dyer: isn't, but James Gatson: then Brian Dyer: maybe James Gatson: still Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah, Brian Dyer: that thing Jeffrey Adorno: mu James Gatson: it's Brian Dyer: is uh is James Gatson: it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green Brian Dyer: Yeah, James Gatson: uh Brian Dyer: board, Steven Christopher: Yeah, Brian Dyer: a school Steven Christopher: but Brian Dyer: board, Steven Christopher: but Brian Dyer: yeah. Steven Christopher: then you can James Gatson: school board. Steven Christopher: uh save it in instantly, and Brian Dyer: Yeah. Steven Christopher: and and James Gatson: Yep. Brian Dyer: I it Steven Christopher: re-use Jeffrey Adorno: It Brian Dyer: has Jeffrey Adorno: saves Brian Dyer: It Steven Christopher: it, Jeffrey Adorno: time. Brian Dyer: is Steven Christopher: and Brian Dyer: useful. Steven Christopher: uh Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: Yeah yeah. Brian Dyer: This uh if it works correct, maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning. So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work, James Gatson: Yep. Brian Dyer: I think then it's pretty useful. James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room. And then you can save it immediately. James Gatson: Well, they are now. Steven Christopher: Hmm. Jeffrey Adorno: Celebration. James Gatson: It is. So, Brian Dyer: Did you type James Gatson: congratulations Brian Dyer: that? Steven Christopher: Hmm. James Gatson: crew. Steven Christopher: Celebration. James Gatson: Se Jeffrey Adorno: Well Steven Christopher: Yeah, we can go to the bar and uh with our James Gatson: Finally my beer. Steven Christopher: newly earned money. James Gatson: Well, that's it I think. Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: Um I don't know how long we still have. I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh Brian Dyer: Maybe till four o'clock or something? Well dunno. Yeah. James Gatson: Well yeah, it is a bit uh Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things. I have to do that. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. You better James Gatson: I Jeffrey Adorno: get started. James Gatson: Di did you um save Steven Christopher: Oh. James Gatson: this one in the folder? Steven Christopher: No. James Gatson: Can you Steven Christopher: No James Gatson: do that? Steven Christopher: no no no. Brian Dyer: No we must save this thing, yeah. In the shared map map. Steven Christopher: But Nils you've got some work left. James Gatson: I don't know what you have Brian Dyer: Map, James Gatson: to do. Brian Dyer: is it a good word? The Jeffrey Adorno: Huh. Brian Dyer: folder, yeah. Steven Christopher: I have to go to a James Gatson: Yeah. Steven Christopher: physiotherapy. James Gatson: Oh it worked. Two Steven Christopher: Wow. James Gatson: times quick. Jeffrey Adorno: Oh, alright. James Gatson: Cool. Brian Dyer: So it is useful, Steven Christopher: Yeah. Brian Dyer: yeah. Steven Christopher: It Jeffrey Adorno: Oh Steven Christopher: is Brian Dyer: No Steven Christopher: handy. Jeffrey Adorno: great, Brian Dyer: but uh Jeffrey Adorno: man. I'm gonna James Gatson: This Jeffrey Adorno: buy James Gatson: is nice. Jeffrey Adorno: one buy Brian Dyer: Radical. Jeffrey Adorno: one for my bedroom. James Gatson: Uh Brian Dyer: Yeah. James Gatson: D design. Brian Dyer: Do you believe it yourself? James Gatson: S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um Steven Christopher: Well they they wanted everything we produced, so Brian Dyer: They James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: also want to see my cat and his rabbit, and uh James Gatson: Well Steven Christopher: My big bird. Brian Dyer: Your big beautiful bird. James Gatson: Where is this? Brian Dyer: Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't. Of or the other way around uh Jeffrey Adorno: Maybe you are broken. Brian Dyer: Yeah I think so too. Jeffrey Adorno: You Steven Christopher: I think Jeffrey Adorno: know. Steven Christopher: you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready. Jeffrey Adorno: I think she's listening. James Gatson: I also think so. She Brian Dyer: Who James Gatson: already Brian Dyer: is James Gatson: knows. Brian Dyer: she you're talking about? Oh James Gatson: She? Brian Dyer: you mean our uh James Gatson: Big brother. Brian Dyer: coach, our f personal coach. James Gatson: Our manager. Brian Dyer: Is she also our accountant? Is she responsible for James Gatson: Yeah. Brian Dyer: sending that information so late? James Gatson: I don't think so. Brian Dyer: Oh. Steven Christopher: Close Brian Dyer: Because Steven Christopher: your laptop. Brian Dyer: then we have to confront her with our Steven Christopher: So she can see we're ready. Jeffrey Adorno: I feel watched. James Gatson: Alright. Steven Christopher: Yeah. James Gatson: We put the fashion in Steven Christopher: Let's James Gatson: electronics, Steven Christopher: take this remote into James Gatson: but Steven Christopher: uh James Gatson: we couldn't Steven Christopher: production. James Gatson: because of the costs. That that's Brian Dyer: Yeah. That James Gatson: the Brian Dyer: that's James Gatson: title Brian Dyer: our new James Gatson: of Brian Dyer: slogan. James Gatson: our uh Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. James Gatson: end document. Brian Dyer: Yeah, I James Gatson: We Brian Dyer: like James Gatson: couldn't Brian Dyer: that. James Gatson: put the fashion into the electronics. Brian Dyer: Blame our accountants. Jeffrey Adorno: Do that. James Gatson: Yeah, that's a nice title. Jeffrey Adorno: Yeah. Brian Dyer: But we couldn't, yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: Very catching. James Gatson: Oh. Brian Dyer: Well I th Jeffrey Adorno: I'm Brian Dyer: Yeah. Jeffrey Adorno: sure management would like that. James Gatson: Well Steven Christopher: She's on the move. James Gatson: I'm going to resign after this project anyway, so Jeffrey Adorno: Oh, that's just great.	Brian Dyer and Steven Christopher presented the drawing of a prototype. It is rounded, with the front made of hard plastic in different colours. The back, as well as the lower part of the front are made of titanium. The back has the logo and slogan of the company engraved in its middle. The buttons include oval digit buttons, arrow-shaped channel and volume controls in the middle; below those, is the menu (for the LCD) and the video button. The LCD can be found at the lower section of the device. After the presentation, the product was evaluated. This was done on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad) on fancifulness, ease of use, finding the device when it is lost, hi-tech features, incorporation of fashion trends, and ergonomic design. Because it was over budget, titanium was replaced by plastic and the speech recognition was discarded. They thought it would have been more sensible to have the component costs before the prototype design. Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (generally satisfied), leadership (the process was democratic, not happy with management), teamwork (happy with it), and means (SMARTboard was 'a disaster' and the digital pens only good for drawings).	3	amisum	train
Joshua Henderson: Okay. So welcome back. What do we have to? So first. I want to say I'm the secretary, so I make the minutes. You find them in your in the map in the From the group. There's the minutes from the first meeting. You'll find the next minutes also there. Then I wanna hear from you, what you've done. And after that I have some new product requirements. So And after that we have make decisions, what we do. And then we're ready. We have forty minutes for this meeting. After that we'll have lunch. So first I wanna ask Juan Graves to tell what he did. Juan Graves: That's my task. Joshua Henderson: So Juan Graves: Okay. Uh I've Where have I put it? My Documents or not? Juan Graves: Hmm. I've save it on my computer, my presentation. Joshua Henderson: Yeah on your computer, or the Juan Graves: But where? Joshua Henderson: What's the name? Juan Graves: Uh uh uh Joshua Henderson: What's the name of it? Juan Graves: It was about the working of the remote control. Joshua Henderson: It's the technical function or the functional requirements. Juan Graves: Nope. Not a of Wait. The working design. But I've Joshua Henderson: Working Juan Graves: saved Joshua Henderson: design. Juan Graves: it. But now I don't know where it is. Juan Graves: Hmm. Joshua Henderson: Working design. What is this? Product documents. Juan Graves: Yeah. And I import this until Joshua Henderson: On the desktop. Up. up. Juan Graves: One Joshua Henderson: Up. Juan Graves: more. Joshua Henderson: Up. Up. Yes. My Documents. Nope. Juan Graves: What the fuck Joshua Henderson: Gone. Juan Graves: is this? Joshua Henderson: Well you Um Nah. Nah, nah, nah. PowerPoint. Working design. Juan Graves: Yeah that's the empty one. Joshua Henderson: And Juan Graves: I had one. Joshua Henderson: Presentation of Juan Graves: Uh-huh. Joshua Henderson: working design. Juan Graves: Open it. Okay here it is. Joshua Henderson: Save as. Uh Brandon Garrett: Desktop. Joshua Henderson: it's Project. Juan Graves: Project. Brandon Garrett: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: Save. Juan Graves: Okay. Brandon Garrett: Okay Joshua Henderson: Very good. Brandon Garrett: Well. Juan Graves: A little later but here it is. Joshua Henderson: Okay. So Juan Graves: So okay. It's a little difficult what I'm gonna tell you. It's about the working of the remote control. I just had an half an hour j to study it and I don't Brandon Garrett: Make Juan Graves: get Brandon Garrett: it. Juan Graves: it. Joshua Henderson: Now have ten minutes to tell it. Juan Graves: Ten minutes to tell it. Okay. I think it will be a few minutes and Joshua Henderson: Okay. Juan Graves: First uh I will tell you something about the findings, what I discovered about the remote control. The working bout it uh of it. Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map, and it's the top of the remote control. With a little bit of science, uh you I will show that uh in in a few minutes. And then uh what I'll think about it. First, the findings. The remote control is a very difficult uh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside. Uh there's a lot of uh plastic on it, um because its uh not so expensive. And there are uh a lot of uh wires, uh which um connect the components in it, the battery, and there are um switches and things like that. There's a lot of small uh electronics. So it won't be um uh too expensive to build it. Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it. Now And here I have the top of the remote control. Uh here's some kind of chip. Uh on top of this, there are uh the numbers. Uh you have all on your remote control. And uh the teletext uh button. And uh here's the battery. And when you push the button, it will uh will be sent to the chip. And the chip will um send it to all kind of sub-components. That's what I said, it's very difficult. And after that it will be sent to the infrared. And that will send it to your television. That's a short h uh how it works. Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult, but we all we all don't get it. My preferences? It's uh it won't be uh We shouldn't make it too big. Uh also for the cost, uh we should only put one battery on it. A long-lasting battery. Uh also for the cost, uh use only plastic. Not other materials. Also because of the cost, uh not too much buttons on it. We can also make uh a button uh with a menu uh button. And then um that that you will see it on the T_V_. And on the T_V_ you can uh switch into the menu. That's I Norman Wall: Mm-hmm. Juan Graves: think it's easier. And the bleep signal, y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something, when the battery's empty, then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep, when what I told you about uh when you lost it, and you push a button, and then you hear bleep bleep, and we will find it. This is uh Joshua Henderson: Oh oh. Juan Graves: just uh Yeah. Joshua Henderson: Two questions. Juan Graves: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why? Juan Graves: If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light, then it will be cheaper than when we use Joshua Henderson: Yeah but Juan Graves: two. Joshua Henderson: when you use two, you can use it two times longer. Juan Graves: Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting. Joshua Henderson: Okay Juan Graves: Just Joshua Henderson: so it's the size of the remote control. Juan Graves: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television, you've you need the television, wh which can use it. Juan Graves: Yeah. But Joshua Henderson: S Juan Graves: uh I think this our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company? Joshua Henderson: Okay. Juan Graves: Or is it also for other company uh for other televisions? Joshua Henderson: I think we have to use it also on other televisions though. Juan Graves: Then this is an option. Joshua Henderson: So Juan Graves: Maybe just a menu button to use it on our televisions. And then we make it easier uh for our televisions. And on the other tele televisions, you can also use it, but then Joshua Henderson: Yeah but Juan Graves: we Joshua Henderson: I Juan Graves: won't Joshua Henderson: don't Juan Graves: use Joshua Henderson: I think Juan Graves: the Joshua Henderson: it They are two different things though. We have to choose one. It has to work on o uh all televisions. Norman Wall: Mm. Juan Graves: Yeah? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a Brandon Garrett: Hmm. Juan Graves: remote control which for the older televisions. Joshua Henderson: Okay. Juan Graves: And I just uh have one more idea. Uh maybe it's one of your tasks. But Uh, to have a trendy remote control, we can also um make something like the Nokia um mobile phones. To change covers. So if you have uh a trendy half with all red, uh yellow and something. And then you can put a Brandon Garrett: Hmm. Juan Graves: red cover on it. And also different things. Joshua Henderson: Yeah. Good idea. Brandon Garrett: Will Juan Graves: Yes. Brandon Garrett: this will this add to the cost? Juan Graves: Uh then it won't be uh will have just one cover on the uh original one. then you can buy the covers. Brandon Garrett: Yes but you have to m uh be able to change it. D does it make it more difficult to design? Juan Graves: I think it will be a little more difficult, but not Joshua Henderson: Mm-hmm. Juan Graves: too much. Brandon Garrett: Not much. 'Kay. Juan Graves: Just like with the Nokia uh mobile phones. Joshua Henderson: Yeah but there are much Juan Graves: Just one. Joshua Henderson: more Nokia telephones than um these ones. Juan Graves: Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it, and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it. Joshua Henderson: Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost? Juan Graves: Uh a p a a cover made in uh in China, it it won't be I guess so expensive I think. Joshua Henderson: Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think When you have a remote control, do you change the cover? Juan Graves: Maybe. Joshua Henderson: Would you change Juan Graves: I Joshua Henderson: the Juan Graves: wi Joshua Henderson: cover? Juan Graves: I won't. But maybe Joshua Henderson: No. Juan Graves: I think trendy people or like children where you can paint on it, and uh the the children Joshua Henderson: N Juan Graves: think, Joshua Henderson: yeah Juan Graves: oh Joshua Henderson: but Juan Graves: this is my remote control, uh I made a picture on it. Joshua Henderson: I think that Juan Graves: Uh Joshua Henderson: too less people would change it for good profit. Juan Graves: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: So Juan Graves: Okay. And the other people? Brandon Garrett: Um Juan Graves: What do you think about it? Norman Wall: Yeah a. But If if it Yeah, I don't I'm not sure if it will make profit enough Juan Graves: Okay. Norman Wall: to uh But it's uh yeah it's uh original idea. Joshua Henderson: Yes it is but I don't think we have to do it. Norman Wall: No. Juan Graves: Okay. Brandon Garrett: Mm. Juan Graves: You're Joshua Henderson. Joshua Henderson: Okay. Juan Graves: Yes. That's it. Joshua Henderson: That's clear. Okay thank you. So now Norman Wall. Norman Wall: Oh. That's Brandon Garrett. Uh Come on. Ah. Brandon Garrett: Yeah. Norman Wall: Yes well uh uh I shall give a short talk about the the technical function design. some influence on the T_V_ set. Uh both audio and vide video uh in a cordless way. No cords attached. And uh well, it all by pushing a button on the remote. That was from my own experience and uh and uh the previous meeting. Uh I find some uh some interesting quotes on the web. Uh well the same idea here. Uh message to the television. And uh and and and well basic uh operations like on and off, and uh switching channels, and uh and maybe uh teletext or something like that. Uh well these are two uh remotes, and that's our uh our dilemma I think. Uh We just heard from Juan Graves how uh difficult it is. But uh shall we make a basic remote control, uh just uh swapping channels and volume and uh power button and well nothing much more. Or uh uh more functions on the remote. Uh maybe more devices you can influence. Uh a radio or a v a video recorder, uh V_C_R_. Yeah well that's our dilemma. Um any ideas about that? Basic or multifunctional? Joshua Henderson: We'll got back on that later. Norman Wall: Okay yeah. Yeah well Brandon Garrett: Yes. Norman Wall: the that was just on my mind. So uh I didn't know what uh what way we would go. Mm yeah well that was my uh functional uh talk. Juan Graves: 'Kay. Joshua Henderson: 'Kay, thank you. Then it's your turn, Brandon Garrett. Brandon Garrett: Okay. Uh um m Brandon Garrett: Yeah. Um yeah okay. This bit too far. So So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um, about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design, uh d d how d did they like the use of it, uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users, they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not? And how much would they use them? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power, volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio, uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch, or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see, most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things, uh I don't think uh, I I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the we asked them, uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control, what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say. I will that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change I think. And they won't like it. And another thing, how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger, the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features, as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph, we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh Okay. What I thought, um even young people say it's hard to use, remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use, that's especially aimed at this group, even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it, uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition. Norman Wall: Mm-hmm. Brandon Garrett: Um well th uh that's my second point. Uh less important functions should be discarded from the remote control. It's about discussion we had earlier. Um You can find most functions on a T_V_ set. So uh you don't have to have a lot of audio options, or screen options to change the brightness. And such things. Um well the design is very important. Brandon Garrett: looking uh remote control if there will be one. But they found most remote controls very ugly. So the design of our remote control is very important. And uh yeah it should be very zap friendly, as most users use it for that. That were my findings. Joshua Henderson: Okay Juan Graves: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: thank Juan Graves: I have Joshua Henderson: you. Juan Graves: uh one question. If Joshua Henderson: Yes. Juan Graves: we aim for the younger people, um and there will be uh a lot of features like L_C_D_ or the the the speech uh f recognising, uh the cost will be a lot of h uh a lot higher. Brandon Garrett: Yes. Norman Wall: Mm-hmm. Juan Graves: Uh I think we don't have that in our budget. Norman Wall: No. Juan Graves: Do you think? Brandon Garrett: No. Norman Wall: And I don't Juan Graves: Like Norman Wall: uh I don't think twenty five Euros for a remote is really cheap or something. Juan Graves: No. No. Norman Wall: So it's Yeah, it's hard to uh get the younger Juan Graves: Uh-huh. Norman Wall: group. Joshua Henderson: I think uh the L_C_D_ is cheaper than speech recognition. So Norman Wall: Mm-hmm. Joshua Henderson: I think that can be an d good option. L_C_D_. Norman Wall: Just the L_C_D_? Joshua Henderson: Yes. Only Norman Wall: Mm-hmm. Joshua Henderson: the L_C_D_. So But we'll come back on that. Brandon Garrett: Okay. Joshua Henderson: Now Oh, go on. What d d d um Um Uh we go back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First, teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary. Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no, younger than forty. Is a g big group, and like you showed, n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point. Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site. Next. Um no. Joshua Henderson: We have to make our decisions, what we want to do. So like you said, we need the. Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us. Brandon Garrett: Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said. Joshua Henderson: Sorry? Brandon Garrett: The the requirements you just said, Joshua Henderson: Yes. Brandon Garrett: maybe we should first have a discussion about that. Joshua Henderson: Yes, it's Brandon Garrett: I uh Joshua Henderson: okay. Brandon Garrett: personally think uh teletext is a good option. Uh not everyone um who is looking T_V_ can go to internet when they want to see the latest news. Joshua Henderson: Yeah but we don't use it. It's a new requirement. So, it's not my requirement. Juan Graves: 'Kay, we'll just have to do that. Joshua Henderson: We have to do this. Juan Graves: Okay. Brandon Garrett: Okay. Juan Graves: No discussion Brandon Garrett: Okay sorry. Juan Graves: about it. Brandon Garrett: Then uh Joshua Henderson: No. Juan Graves: Okay. Unfortunately. Joshua Henderson: So what controls do we need? Who first? Norman Wall: Well a power button? Joshua Henderson: Okay. Uh power. Norman Wall: Uh the well um I think separate channels. So Joshua Henderson: Uh mm channel. Norman Wall: But then both the the separate channels. So so uh Joshua Henderson: Channel Norman Wall: zero to nine or something. Joshua Henderson: Zero to nine. Norman Wall: Uh volume. Joshua Henderson: Volume. Maybe it's easy to pick. What was w your one? Techno Brandon Garrett: Mine? It's the functional requirements. Joshua Henderson: Okay. Joshua Henderson: We had w uh no no no no. Where was that example of the Norman Wall: Oh mine. Joshua Henderson: Johan. That was the the the the the Norman Wall: Technical. Joshua Henderson: technical Hallo. Okay. What do we need? On-off. Zero to nine. Juan Graves: To change to the next channel, just one button. To move up, move down. Joshua Henderson: Yeah that's the Brandon Garrett: D Joshua Henderson: channel. Brandon Garrett: Yeah. Do we make a menu? Joshua Henderson: Menu? Uh yes the n newer televisions ha do have menus. Uh Brandon Garrett: Uh Joshua Henderson: M Menu. I think um the only one or two numbers. Norman Wall: Mm yes. Joshua Henderson: And Hello? That's ch Brandon Garrett: I think it will be um q quite easy to use, to have uh uh four arrows. Up-down for channel selection, and Joshua Henderson: Yes. Brandon Garrett: left-right uh for volume. And uh a menu uh button. And if you press the menu button you get into the menu, and you can use the same buttons. But the then to scroll through the menu and to change the options. Joshua Henderson: On the L_C_D_ screen, you mean? Brandon Garrett: Uh well yeah that depends on if you have uh the menu on the T_V_. Or you get the menu on the L_C_D_ screen on the remote control. Joshua Henderson: Think it's better to have it on the remote control, 'cause it it has to work on all televisions. So Brandon Garrett: Yes. Juan Graves: But Joshua Henderson: we Juan Graves: then Joshua Henderson: need Juan Graves: we come to the costs. Joshua Henderson: N Yes. But if we have this Brandon Garrett: 'Kay. But well if you aim at the younger market, um a as they as uh s uh as we seen in the usability uh lab, uh they will buy a nice looking um remote control. And also to find the easy to use uh part very important. So if we have a L_C_D_ sh uh screen, and uh not too many buttons, I think that will incre uh uh even when it's a bit more cost, it will still sell. Joshua Henderson: So now we don't have a lot of buttons. Is this enough? Norman Wall: Mute. Joshua Henderson: Maybe in the menu? Norman Wall: Um Brandon Garrett: Mm. Norman Wall: Yeah but then it's always uh more than one uh Joshua Henderson: Mute. Norman Wall: thing to do. Joshua Henderson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Garrett: Yeah. Joshua Henderson: Okay. Maybe more? No. Well. Then that's all. This will be the buttons. And I think that's enough for the next phase. So we can go on to Juan Graves: But now we have only the buttons. And Joshua Henderson: Yes. Juan Graves: uh we don't yet have to decide what the remote control would look like? Or Joshua Henderson: No that's for the next phase. Juan Graves: Okay. Joshua Henderson: Um Phase two is the conceptual design. So Juan Graves: Okay. Joshua Henderson: then we'll have the concepts. Juan Graves: Okay. Joshua Henderson: That's for the So uh next point. Now we have lunch-break. After that we have t thirty minutes for work. And you can find the minutes in the Project Documents folder inclusive the uh buttons. No. Your individual action, you can find them in the email. So now it's time for lunch. Juan Graves: Okay. Brandon Garrett: Okay. Good idea. Joshua Henderson: Thanks for coming.	Joshua Henderson opened the meeting by explaining how to locate his minutes from the previous meeting. Juan Graves briefly explained the internal workings of the remote, and mentioned his preferences for power source and case material. He also suggested mobile phone-like changeable covers, and the group discussed the profit in this. Norman Wall very briefly mentioned some features a remote should have and suggested it should be multifunctional. Brandon Garrett present the findings of the usability study. The group then discussed their target group ,and what features they might include to attract them. The manager introduced new requirements to the project, insisting they were to be followed. The group then discussed what buttons they might need, which included menu, numbers, channel and volume changing arrows and mute.	3	amisum	train
Steve Logan: Okay. Well, let's start. What are doing? Oops. Phillip Gulledge: Hmm. Dean Ruka: Ah, pinball. Steve Logan: Okay. Okay. Not doing. Ashley Miller: Mm. Steve Logan: Uh Ashley Miller: Ah. Phillip Gulledge: Oh. Ashley Miller: Hey. Ah. Now I have my screen back too. Steve Logan: Very good. Okay. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Steve Logan: we have presentations. So first, it's your turn. Phillip Gulledge: Mine. Oh Steve Logan: Yeah. Phillip Gulledge: great Dean Ruka: Huh. Steve Logan: Isn't it amazing. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Very interesting. Phillip Gulledge: Uh Steve Logan: Industrial Designer. Interface concept. Phillip Gulledge: Yes, well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept. Uh, first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose, uh show you some samples, uh uh discuss some colours and design maybe, already. And uh my personal preferences. Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off. The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off. and uh off uh uh zero to nine, and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine. Uh the volume and channel quadrants, uh left and right, up and down arrows, to uh do the volume and channel. And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display. Um, I found some uh interesting uh uh samples. Examples. Um, well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh Ashley Miller: Large. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Ashley Miller: A Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Ashley Miller: lot Phillip Gulledge: Large Ashley Miller: a lot of buttons Phillip Gulledge: and and and Ashley Miller: buttons. Phillip Gulledge: pretty thin and uh and long. Um, power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right. Um, well we see the the the same uh arrows. Like there. And uh Yeah, well arrow b buttons can be blue. And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons. Some buttons have icons like the play and stop, but we don't use that. But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons, or or letters. Uh this is the V_ for volume, but they're both uh a V_. So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Phillip Gulledge: Um Yeah. So, that's Steve Logan: Can you go back one page? For the uh menu, what do we use for that? Phillip Gulledge: Uh, Steve Logan: We don't Phillip Gulledge: well Steve Logan: have buttons for the menu. Or we may use channel of volume and Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. I thought that was our uh idea. Steve Logan: Okay. Phillip Gulledge: So, Steve Logan: But Phillip Gulledge: uh Steve Logan: uh Phillip Gulledge: how Steve Logan: You have to put it on the Phillip Gulledge: Like this. Steve Logan: Yeah. Phillip Gulledge: Or or this. And that the menu button is okay. Steve Logan: Yeah but, has to be clear that you can use the arrows. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah, okay. Ashley Miller: Yes. Phillip Gulledge: Uh, so the The icons on the arrows, as well, you Steve Logan: Mm-hmm. Phillip Gulledge: mean. Steve Logan: Yes. The second one. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Uh, well that's something to uh think about. Steve Logan: Okay. Dean Ruka: Uh, maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation. And Phillip Gulledge: Okay. Dean Ruka: you Ashley Miller: Okay. Dean Ruka: will see it. Phillip Gulledge: Um, well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already, or in the next uh meeting. But uh, as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo, I would uh recommend a yellow case. Uh, round edges. The logo at the bottom. And uh, well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognisable. K so, I think. Steve Logan: Not too much colours. Phillip Gulledge: Uh, no. Not too much. But uh Steve Logan: No, it's not flower power. Phillip Gulledge: No, no, no. But this has to be has to be trendy and uh Steve Logan: S okay. Phillip Gulledge: and Uh, yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons, and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion. Steve Logan: Okay. Phillip Gulledge: That was that. Steve Logan: Thank you. So, you're next. Dean Ruka: I'm next, okay. Dean Ruka: Yes. No. Here we go. Uh, at Ashley Miller: Okay. Dean Ruka: first we will uh I will f Ashley Miller: Mm-hmm. Dean Ruka: uh say something about what younger people want, our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to. And I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs, about uh what battery is in it, what kind of buttons also. First uh, the younger people, they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours. Like, totally yellow, totally red. Uh, so it's visible. Uh, the shapes are curved and round, like uh you also said. Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones, straight and uh flat and long. But to give him the shape of your hand, so you it's easier to use or something like that. But that's just an idea. And then, I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control. The battery, there are few options. Uh, I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery. So, everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket. Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch. When you uh shake it a few times, it it's loaded. Uh, the the form of the remote control, I think it's also nice have it curved. And maybe like it's hand-shaped. Uh, so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons. Uh material, you use plastic. Hard plastic uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time. And also rubber because the younger people like that, what we see in the research. Uh the push-buttons. We have one new thing uh discovered. It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse. Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels. When you want to go m move up, you just scroll up and click on the button, if you wanna see the next, uh if you wanna see that channel. And also for the mouse, uh for the volume, it's also uh easy to use. Just scroll a bit up, scroll a bit down. And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this, and you get it here. You can do it with your thumb. And with your Ashley Miller: Hmm. Dean Ruka: l left hand you can uh push the buttons uh if you push uh channel one, you can see channel one. The electrics um with a scroll push uh button, we must use regular uh chips. There are also uh simple chips. They are uh cheaper. Um, but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control, and I think there are a lot of those uh things, and people won't buy it any more. They have seen enough of it. And you have also advanced um chips. But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen. And the costs will increase a lot more. And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_, and the chip who is more expensive. And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control, that we then use the primary colours. Like, you get a yellow uh remote control, red one, blue one, et cetera. You have any more questions about this? I think the main Ashley Miller: Yep. Dean Ruka: thing is we look at the costs. Steve Logan: Hmm. Dean Ruka: And not too basic, not a Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: basic remote control, who Ashley Miller: But, Dean Ruka: everybody Ashley Miller: thi Dean Ruka: already Ashley Miller: i uh Dean Ruka: has. Ashley Miller: This is with an L_C_D_? No, Dean Ruka: Not Ashley Miller: not. Dean Ruka: with an L_C_D_. Steve Logan: No, isn't. Dean Ruka: No. Steve Logan: But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons. Then you can scroll, you see what number, Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: and then you push. Dean Ruka: But then, what I say, the costs will uh get a lot higher. Steve Logan: But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel. Dean Ruka: Th then Steve Logan: If Dean Ruka: you'll Steve Logan: you Dean Ruka: see Steve Logan: don't Dean Ruka: it on the television. Steve Logan: Hmm, yes. But then. Yeah, then you go one down one up. When Dean Ruka: Yeah Steve Logan: you scroll. Dean Ruka: but l when you see a menu uh on the television, it's like you see uh one to twenty, you go uh uh s scroll Steve Logan: Yeah but Dean Ruka: up, Steve Logan: like Dean Ruka: and Steve Logan: we said Dean Ruka: push Steve Logan: before, Dean Ruka: number tw Steve Logan: it Dean Ruka: twenty. Steve Logan: has to be used on every television. So you may not be uh No. The television must do that. Dean Ruka: Mm-hmm. Steve Logan: So Dean Ruka: Yeah, I think the younger people will have newer televisions, which can provide our uh Steve Logan: Yeah Dean Ruka: remote Steve Logan: but Dean Ruka: control. Steve Logan: young people have to have all their uh room. And mostly they are smaller. Dean Ruka: Yes. Steve Logan: So Dean Ruka: But that won't be a problem. I think. Steve Logan: Most the times that are not advanced televisions. Dean Ruka: No, but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls. And I think, what I said, everybody has them uh has them already. And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros. Uh, and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing. And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news. Steve Logan: Okay. Ashley Miller: Uh, can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without? Dean Ruka: I got it on my screen and it was uh higher. But I don't know uh how much higher. Ashley Miller: 'Cause it I think Steve Logan: That's Ashley Miller: if Steve Logan: important. Ashley Miller: we have an L_C_D_, it will also sell a lot better. Dean Ruka: That's true. Ashley Miller: And that might uh bring back the costs uh Dean Ruka: But then we'll I think we must discuss who uh what will be better. If we have a better shape of the um remote control, or better options on it. With a scroll menu, a w scroll thing, and a L_C_D_. And then a flat um remote control. remote control, with scroll, without L_C_D_. Steve Logan: Yeah. Maybe you can look how how much it is Dean Ruka: I can Steve Logan: for Dean Ruka: uh Steve Logan: the Dean Ruka: look on my Steve Logan: L_C_D_. It's Dean Ruka: uh Steve Logan: very important. Dean Ruka: Uh Note that the push-button requires a simple chip chip. A scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip, which is a higher price range. The display requires a advanced chip, which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip. Steve Logan: Yeah, more expensive. But how much? Dean Ruka: Doesn't say. Steve Logan: Oh. Ashley Miller: Huh. Phillip Gulledge: Hmm. Steve Logan: Okay. Dean Ruka: That's from my manufacturing division. Steve Logan: Okay. Ashley Miller: 'Kay. Steve Logan: Well, thank Ashley Miller: My Steve Logan: you. Ashley Miller: turn? Dean Ruka: Yes? Steve Logan: Next. Ashley Miller: Mm. So So Yeah. So, my uh presentation is about trend-watching. Uh, I did some trend-watching. It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends. 'Cause if you don't, you won't sell. So, well how we did do that? Uh, well we made an investigation of the market, by Trendwatchers. They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan. Of course, well known for their uh trend uh trends. And well, uh what did you find? Uh, we have two groups, young and trendy, and the old and rich. Well th and the young and trendy, they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes, shoes, and also uh products. And um, material? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling. And to get a feeling for what it is, uh here is an image of it. Then the old and rich. They like uh dark colours, and simple, recognisable shapes. And um, they also like uh familiar material, uh especially wood. Now, another picture. To get a feeling for this. Well, uh then already come to my personal preferences. We uh aim at the younger market. So, we should also be uh look at their uh trends. However, with trends it's always if there's it's now. It it it might last one year, and next year it be uh can be totally different. And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year. So, we m must not just only look at what the trend is now, as it might be totally different next year. So, that's uh one thing to keep in mind. Dean Ruka: Changing covers. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Any questions? Dean Ruka: Nope. Phillip Gulledge: No. Steve Logan: No. It's clear. So now, it's uh Ah, let's see. Steve Logan: Now, w we have to decide Steve Logan: Well, we have to decide on the concept. So, we have to look at 'S next. Components and user interface concept. So Now, we have to make some concept. Maybe one of you can paint it on the board. First, uh user interface. Dean Ruka: Uh, uh-uh. How w how we how we make it? Uh Steve Logan: Yes, a concept on uh Dean Ruka: Shouldn't Steve Logan: Just Dean Ruka: we first Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: discuss about like what w Steve Logan: Yeah, but Dean Ruka: we Steve Logan: maybe Dean Ruka: all Steve Logan: we can paint it. Uh, what do we want? Dean Ruka: Yeah, but if I paint with Steve Logan: I'll paint. Okay. Well Ashley Miller: Mm. Steve Logan: Something like this? Or Phillip Gulledge: Mm, Steve Logan: Shapes Phillip Gulledge: yes. Steve Logan: or What do we need? Ashley Miller: Can make Phillip Gulledge: What? Ashley Miller: several uh concepts. Steve Logan: Yes, okay. Ashley Miller: We have this, and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand. Steve Logan: Okay. Dean Ruka: More like something Ashley Miller: Yeah I I I uh yes. Dean Ruka: M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it. Uh Steve Logan: And you have to. Dean Ruka: I have to. Steve Logan: Yeah. Dean Ruka: I'm not a designer. It's more three D_. Like, um when you have a part here. This is the remote control. And then you have something like th this under it. So, it's easier Phillip Gulledge: Mm. Dean Ruka: to get it like this. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: It's like a gun. Ashley Miller: A Steve Logan: So, it has to be Ashley Miller: g Steve Logan: soft? Ashley Miller: Mm. Dean Ruka: And it has to be soft, yeah. Steve Logan: Okay. Dean Ruka: So, you can Steve Logan: And uh, Dean Ruka: squeeze Steve Logan: the Dean Ruka: in Steve Logan: buttons? Dean Ruka: it and Sorry? Steve Logan: Buttons. Dean Ruka: Buttons on top of it. And here. The scrolling. You can do it with your thumb. Phillip Gulledge: But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then? Dean Ruka: But Steve Logan: No, Dean Ruka: now Steve Logan: it Dean Ruka: we Steve Logan: won't. Dean Ruka: use one scroll button and the other one is here. One till uh uh zero till nine. Steve Logan: But, Phillip Gulledge: Yeah, okay. But Ashley Miller: Yeah. Steve Logan: well Dean Ruka: And Phillip Gulledge: but Steve Logan: there Dean Ruka: the Steve Logan: one Dean Ruka: b Phillip Gulledge: how Steve Logan: for the sound and one for the channels. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Dean Ruka: Yeah? Phillip Gulledge: How Dean Ruka: Or two buttons. Phillip Gulledge: Okay. Ashley Miller: And Steve Logan: Uh, Ashley Miller: i if Steve Logan: two Ashley Miller: we go Steve Logan: scroll Ashley Miller: to uh Steve Logan: uh Dean Ruka: If Steve Logan: wheels. Dean Ruka: uh 'Kay c If we do If we use one, then we'll have just a switch on it, and you'll just switch it, and now it's Phillip Gulledge: Mm. Dean Ruka: the sound to switch Steve Logan: That's th Dean Ruka: back Steve Logan: that's more difficult. Ashley Miller: But if we have Steve Logan: It's Ashley Miller: uh Steve Logan: better Ashley Miller: a Ashley Miller Steve Logan: in Ashley Miller: Yeah. If we have a menu, uh how do we uh choose other options? Dean Ruka: with the menu uh button. And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it. Just not like all Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: the other ones, with uh this thing, and uh here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow. Because uh, from h hundred uh remote controls, ninety nine have it. Steve Logan: But Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Steve Logan: if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu. Dean Ruka: Uh, Ashley Miller: Uh-uh. Dean Ruka: then we have it on the T_V_, the menu. Steve Logan: Yeah, but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it? You don't know. So, Dean Ruka: I Steve Logan: there's Dean Ruka: don't Steve Logan: no Dean Ruka: know. Steve Logan: menu. Dean Ruka: It's like some sort of uh teletext option, but we don't have teletext. Steve Logan: No. So you can't use it. Dean Ruka: And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it, then the costs will uh be much higher. Steve Logan: Okay, we make two concepts. One with L_C_D_. One without L_C_D_. Dean Ruka: 'Kay. But you all like this kind of thing. Uh Steve Logan: Good concept. But Dean Ruka: With the scroll button. Steve Logan: That's one. Dean Ruka: And and this one Ashley Miller: Uh-uh. Dean Ruka: has to be soft. And this has to be harder, because when it falls, it mu mu must not burst. Or some kind of rubber around it. Phillip Gulledge: Mm-hmm. Steve Logan: It's one. Two. Number two. Phillip Gulledge: And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger. Like Dean Ruka: Yeah. Phillip Gulledge: uh Dean Ruka: Yeah. Ah that's nice. Here. Trigger. Steve Logan: No. Phillip Gulledge: Just Steve Logan: But Phillip Gulledge: to Steve Logan: when you handle it, Phillip Gulledge: uh Steve Logan: you put it on and off. It's not good to use. Phillip Gulledge: Oh, like Steve Logan: Yeah, but Phillip Gulledge: a Steve Logan: I'll zap. Fuck. Out. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Steve Logan: No, it's not good. Ashley Miller: Yeah. Steve Logan: Now, second concept. One with L_C_D_, one without L_C_D_. Then uh Paint it. Dean Ruka: Paint it? With the scroll thing on, Steve Logan: One Dean Ruka: like this? Steve Logan: with two scroll buttons and one with without. Yeah. Uh, one Dean Ruka: So? Steve Logan: with a with a menu, and one without a menu. And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_. Dean Ruka: Draw it. Steve Logan: Unbelievable. Do I have to do everything. Blank. You have Steve Logan: Not so difficult. Phillip Gulledge: But Ashley Miller: Yeah. Phillip Gulledge: if you put push the the menu button Steve Logan: Uh, that's the menu. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah, wh Steve Logan: There Phillip Gulledge: what Steve Logan: for the L_C_D_ screen. Phillip Gulledge: Yes, but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose. Steve Logan: You have to For the menu. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Steve Logan: Mm-hmm. One that way. And one that way. So Then it depends on the cost. S On and off. Dean Ruka: But is it easy to use? When you have it on your left side, and Steve Logan: When it's not too big. Just like a a phone. Phillip Gulledge: Mm-hmm. Ashley Miller: M uh yeah, maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um Dean Ruka: Separate, more separate, Ashley Miller: more separate, Dean Ruka: h yeah. Ashley Miller: yeah. Steve Logan: Yes, Ashley Miller: Like, you have Steve Logan: okay. Ashley Miller: the menu button in between uh Dean Ruka: Yeah. On the left a scroll button, and on the right a scroll button. Dean Ruka: But would it be easy to use then? If it's like you have a big uh Steve Logan: Very good. Is it better? When you uh the menu, you have to go there there there there. Dean Ruka: I also think Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: this concept is not what the young people were looking for. They were like round curves, uh different uh Steve Logan: Yeah, okay. That's that's the outside. Dean Ruka: Okay, okay, Steve Logan: But now Dean Ruka: okay. Steve Logan: the First the buttons. Dean Ruka: Mm-hmm. Ashley Miller: Think we have we have now two buttons missing. The uh um The mute button. Steve Logan: Sorry? Ashley Miller: We have two buttons missing. The mute button. And um, the to to uh have to uh numbers Steve Logan: Mute. And the other. Yeah. Ashley Miller: Okay. Steve Logan: Not so difficult. Ashley Miller: But, uh Dean Ruka: Personally, I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle. Steve Logan: But how do you wanna solve it? Dean Ruka: With the switch button. Steve Logan: Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy. Then Dean Ruka: No Steve Logan: you Dean Ruka: like Steve Logan: go down, Dean Ruka: uh Steve Logan: you switch, you go into the right, you switch, you go down. Dean Ruka: Oh, you mean like that. Steve Logan: Yeah. Dean Ruka: Uh, then you can also have like uh th um Steve Logan: A joystick. Dean Ruka: Yeah, and joystick, I think. Steve Logan: Yeah. But is it uh Does that break, a joystick? Or a small one just like in a laptop. Dean Ruka: Yeah like in a laptop, s uh s some sort of thing. A little bit bigger, with Steve Logan: Mean, it's Dean Ruka: easier Steve Logan: better. Dean Ruka: thi Steve Logan: But how expensive it is? Dean Ruka: I don't know. Steve Logan: Oh. Why do I pay you for? Um, well um Better ideas. Ashley Miller: Okay. Dean Ruka: Or no scroll uh things. Just a shape. And No, no. Steve Logan: For the Dean Ruka: It won't Steve Logan: young Dean Ruka: work. Steve Logan: peoples I think scroll Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: button's good. Dean Ruka: Uh-huh. Steve Logan: So Think we have to keep them. Dean Ruka: Or a remote control more like joystick. Steve Logan: Yeah, but is it A small one. Dean Ruka: A small one like this, like a Nintendo uh k Steve Logan: No just like in a Dean Ruka: Playstation thing. Steve Logan: a laptop. Small, round. Then it's not so big. Dean Ruka: No, no, no. I mean the the shape of the Steve Logan: Oh the Dean Ruka: remote Steve Logan: sh Dean Ruka: control. Just Steve Logan: Yeah, Dean Ruka: like a Steve Logan: but Dean Ruka: Playstation Steve Logan: then Dean Ruka: thing. Steve Logan: you can to use t with one hand. Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: So Maybe, if it's possible, it's not too expensive, I think a joystick is better. A small one. So, please look at it. Dean Ruka: No, that's okay, I got Ashley Miller: And on the L_C_D_, how much it costs? Uh, it costs extra? Dean Ruka: Uh they're not uh in details. It's more expensive or Steve Logan: Yeah Dean Ruka: less Steve Logan: we Dean Ruka: expensive, Steve Logan: I think Dean Ruka: huh? Steve Logan: you get it. So, after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it. Dean Ruka: Then I have to come with it. Steve Logan: Yes. Dean Ruka: I got my personal costs. I I don't I don't know the costs. Steve Logan: Your problem. Not mine. Dean Ruka: Then I'll uh make something up. Steve Logan: Okay. So, do we have other concepts? Then for the components, we use a normal battery. Phillip Gulledge: Mm, Steve Logan: Then it's Phillip Gulledge: yeah. Steve Logan: Ch cheapest Dean Ruka: Yeah, or Steve Logan: way, Dean Ruka: the Steve Logan: I think. Dean Ruka: or the kinetic uh with normal Steve Logan: No, Dean Ruka: battery. Steve Logan: no kinetic. Dean Ruka: Yeah, I think it's Steve Logan: Kinetic Dean Ruka: uh, yeah, Steve Logan: is uh ch makes it more expensive. Dean Ruka: more expensive. Yeah. Steve Logan: So Ashley Miller: Yeah. Steve Logan: we use a normal battery. Phillip Gulledge: Yeah. Dean Ruka: Okay. Ashley Miller: Yes. Steve Logan: Chip. Depends on the L_C_D_. Dean Ruka: Depends on the scroll. Steve Logan: Scroll. Dean Ruka: If we use a scroll, then we have the uh regular chip. If we don't use a scroll, then we can use the simple chip. And Steve Logan: Yeah. Dean Ruka: that's Steve Logan: And uh, we If you use the L_C_D_, we have to Dean Ruka: Uh the most expensive. Steve Logan: Yes, Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: okay. So, depends on the L_C_D_ Dean Ruka: If we Steve Logan: and the scroll. Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: Okay. Dean Ruka: If we No okay scroll-wheel. So, I have this. So, it will be uh the advanced chip, or the uh regu uh or the regular chip. Steve Logan: Okay. So, uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But, it has to be small. I think. Dean Ruka: Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it? Steve Logan: If you have pistol, it L_C_D_'s not easy. Y y Dean Ruka: Just use your thumb. Steve Logan: Yeah but If you use a phone. Dean Ruka: If you Yeah. I use my thumb. Steve Logan: k Yeah, but but then you have it. Like, th if you have pistol, you have it so. Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: And the screen is Well, Dean Ruka: If Steve Logan: then Dean Ruka: you have Steve Logan: you Dean Ruka: a joystick Steve Logan: have Dean Ruka: on Steve Logan: to keep it this way to look at the screen. Dean Ruka: No, if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller. Steve Logan: Yeah. Dean Ruka: And you move up, f forward, down, left. Then you have uh just, yeah, a little bit curved. It's not just uh Steve Logan: No. Dean Ruka: straight. Steve Logan: No, no. Dean Ruka: That's how we use it. Ashley Miller: Uh Dean Ruka: That's why they make joysticks like that, I think. Steve Logan: Yeah, but then Ashley Miller: Uh, Steve Logan: you look Ashley Miller: yeah, but Steve Logan: forward. And then you can Ashley Miller: Yeah. Steve Logan: y Dean Ruka: Yeah? Steve Logan: N well, Ashley Miller: If you Steve Logan: if you have to look at it. Dean Ruka: 'Kay. Here's our designer. Ashley Miller: If we have uh then something standing here, with the L_C_D_. Dean Ruka: Yeah. Steve Logan: Then it goes like this. Dean Ruka: Yeah, why not. Steve Logan: If th n well Dean Ruka: It's for the younger people. Steve Logan: Yes, of course. Dean Ruka: It's something new. Phillip Gulledge: It's Steve Logan: That's Phillip Gulledge: uh Steve Logan: good good. But the um, it may not break. Dean Ruka: Now we put uh rubber around it. Steve Logan: Okay. If that's possible. Ashley Miller: Um, Dean Ruka: Hard Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: plastic, uh the shape, and around it hard uh around it rubber. And the uh the hand shape is also rubber. Steve Logan: Okay. Phillip Gulledge: Or you Ashley Miller: I Phillip Gulledge: can Ashley Miller: can't Phillip Gulledge: uh Ashley Miller: see the. Phillip Gulledge: turn it inside. Ashley Miller: But, uh the Phillip Gulledge: But Ashley Miller: easy Phillip Gulledge: that's Ashley Miller: of uh, th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it. Dean Ruka: Huh. Phillip Gulledge: No, that's true. Ashley Miller: Uh, for us it's about to sell it. Uh Steve Logan: Yeah of Dean Ruka: This Steve Logan: course. Dean Ruka: is something new. Steve Logan: Okay. Then this is the design. And the buttons are on the next page. So, depends on the cost. So, Dean Ruka: Costs are okay. Steve Logan: um we have one minute. Ashley Miller: One. Steve Logan: I think. Ashley Miller: No. Steve Logan: No. Ashley Miller: You have more. Steve Logan: More. Seven. Ashley Miller: You have still ten. Steve Logan: Next meeting. Thirty minutes. So hurry up. Dean Ruka: Oh, that's us together. Steve Logan: You two stay here. Paint it. Phillip Gulledge: Okay. Steve Logan: Now you have to. So I think it's clear. Check your mail. So Ashley Miller: Yeah. Dean Ruka: Yes. Steve Logan: It has to be ready in the next meeting. So Ashley Miller: What? Phillip Gulledge: Cookie. Ashley Miller: Okay. Steve Logan: Next meeting is called the detailed design. So Everyth everything has to be ready. Ashley Miller: Okay. Steve Logan: Thanks for your attention. Dean Ruka: 'Kay. Ashley Miller: See you at the next meeting. Dean Ruka: Bye bye.	Dean Ruka gave a presentation on the interface concept, discussing which buttons will be needed and then looking at some examples of existing remote controls. He suggested using a yellow case with rounded edges and the logo at the bottom, and large, clearly marked buttons. The interface expert informed the group that young people like curved shapes, soft materials and primary colours, and suggested making a hand-shaped remote in plastic and rubber. He talked about the possibility of using a scroll button, and the different chips which could be used. The group discussed using an LCD screen, but did not have enough information about costs to make a decision. Ashley Miller talked about new trends, including the trends for spongy materials and fruit and vegetable themed products. The group had a discussion and decided to create two designs, one with an LCD screen and one without, and the interface designer drew them on the board. They put off making a final decision about using an LCD screen, scroll buttons and a menu button until they could find out about costs.	3	amisum	train
Paul Wilson: Okay. So, now, last time Can you uh push the button? One time please. So I'm still the secretary. Now uh, I ask you to presentate the prototype. One of your you two. Henry Pouliot: I don't care. Sergio Wagner: Oh this, you mean? Henry Pouliot: Huh? Paul Wilson: Yes. The prototype. Sergio Wagner: Yes, uh this is it. James Salas: This Paul Wilson: Well, James Salas: is it. Paul Wilson: thank you. Uh, Sergio Wagner: It's Paul Wilson: now Sergio Wagner: uh it's uh it's yellow. And uh, this is rubber. And and and this too. The the sides. Paul Wilson: Yes. Sergio Wagner: And the rest is hard plastic. And uh We uh we had some uh We had a new idea that that this can uh can be uh uh turned inside. And then it covers the these buttons Paul Wilson: Okay. Sergio Wagner: until James Salas: Yes. Sergio Wagner: here or something. the mute and the the joystick. Paul Wilson: Mm-hmm. Sergio Wagner: So, you can still operate uh all the things. Because you don't always use the menu. And then it can break. Paul Wilson: Okay. And the buttons? Sergio Wagner: Uh, well uh Big buttons. And everything is blue, except the power button. And the mute. Of uh yeah, and the mute and the the other button. Yeah. Channel higher channel button. James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: And the joystick is for the volume and the channels. Sergio Wagner: Uh, yes. Henry Pouliot: Yes. Sergio Wagner: Yes, that's uh Very obvious. Henry Pouliot: Up is channel up. Down is channel down. To the right is volume up. To the left is volume down. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Okay, so if joystick and L_C_D_. What's the R_R_ d Henry Pouliot: The R_R_? Sergio Wagner: R_R_'s the l the the the the company uh Paul Wilson: Okay. Sergio Wagner: logo. Paul Wilson: Very good. So, James Salas: That's Paul Wilson: we James Salas: on the Paul Wilson: have James Salas: rub rubber part. Sergio Wagner: Uh, yes. Yes. That's about here. Paul Wilson: So, what they say on the side is put fashion there. Yes. It's good. Sergio Wagner: Oh. Paul Wilson: So, James Salas: Yeah? Paul Wilson: that's it. That's prototype. Now, the finance. We don't know if it's th James Salas: Alright. Paul Wilson: it if it's okay. So, I'm James Salas: Do we Paul Wilson: gonna look. James Salas: Do Paul Wilson: We James Salas: we change Paul Wilson: have James Salas: the Paul Wilson: Sorry? James Salas: Do we change the the order? Or are we going to uh Paul Wilson: Finance is um James Salas: ev evaluate Paul Wilson: Yeah it's James Salas: it first? Paul Wilson: No, first uh Yes. We have to evaluate the product James Salas: Okay. Paul Wilson: yet. Sorry. James Salas: That's uh um That can be none. James Salas: Um, we gonna do the evaluation now, together. But I have uh a introduction how it works. So, it will come up. Uh-oh. Okay. Um, yeah. Well, we uh uh, I have um thinked a few evaluation uh criterias, uh based on um our marketing strategy, on uh the latest trends, on user preferences. Uh, we have a seven point scale from uh true, as well. To false, seven? And on base of each c uh criteria, we need to um give a rating. We can uh Well, it look like this. But we gonna uh do it here, they said. So, you hope found out how to do it with a Word document. James Salas: Yeah. James Salas: Okay, yeah. Yeah. Um, well uh we have the Word document Paul Wilson: Criteria. James Salas: You So we open up that blank here. Um Think I can Uh, what this just an example. So, this not very important. But um, if I can get a number in here. Hmm. Paul Wilson: No, it's James Salas: Well, Paul Wilson: okay. James Salas: uh we can't Henry Pouliot: I'll James Salas: do that. Henry Pouliot: get it. Paul Wilson: Oh, it's okay. James Salas: Um, so uh you have to think of it as uh the remote control is techno technologically innovative. Uh, and then we have to uh agree on the rating together. And in the end, we will c uh count an average of all rating. The first uh on each item. Paul Wilson: What do you think? James Salas: Yeah, I think it's uh Uh, well technologically using, it's not uh it doesn't contain many new features. Only the L_C_D_. So, it Um, I think I will give it a yeah, yeah, yeah, a four. Hmm. Henry Pouliot: I think the scroll-button is something also uh new. What uh not anoth uh, not a lot of uh a lot of uh remote controls have. I think technologically I'll give it an seven. Si six six. Sorry, James Salas: So now Henry Pouliot: six. James Salas: i Paul Wilson: Yeah. James Salas: I think you uh see it um its statement. And you true Henry Pouliot: true James Salas: or Henry Pouliot: or James Salas: false. Henry Pouliot: false. Oh, uh James Salas: And true Henry Pouliot: I'll James Salas: is one. Henry Pouliot: I'll give it James Salas: So, Henry Pouliot: uh a t James Salas: yeah. Henry Pouliot: a two. James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Two. Henry Pouliot: Sorry. Paul Wilson: You? Sergio Wagner: Three. Paul Wilson: James Salas too. So it's a three. James Salas: 'Kay. Um, well It's a one. The first item. So, okay the second item. Um, this product is for all sorts of customers. Sergio Wagner: Mm James Salas: Well, it's a statement which uh I disagree with, because we uh really aim uh at at young market and I think the way it looked uh c uh totally in yellow, it's not uh really aimed for all customers. It doesn't look like that. Paul Wilson: So it's a James Salas: That's uh a six. Henry Pouliot: Five. Sergio Wagner: Mm, four. Paul Wilson: Yes, it's for the younger g group. Sergio Wagner: Yeah, Paul Wilson: So it's Sergio Wagner: but Paul Wilson: uh Sergio Wagner: it's Paul Wilson: half Sergio Wagner: it's Paul Wilson: half of the people. So I think it's four. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. I mean it still has l large buttons and not m many buttons. So Henry Pouliot: Mm-hmm. Paul Wilson: No. Sergio Wagner: I mean, the colours are for young people, but Paul Wilson: Yes. So, I Sergio Wagner: older Paul Wilson: think it's four. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Henry Pouliot: Maybe version uh three point O_ uh has other colours. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Maybe. Paul Wilson: Okay. Give it a four. Henry Pouliot: Four. James Salas: Four. Paul Wilson: Yep. James Salas: Uh, okay. Mm. Paul Wilson: We put the fashion in electronics. James Salas: That's uh the motto of our company. Yeah, well do we do this with uh this product? I um Yeah. I think if we do this, as it's uh uh c uh it's really orientates on the design. Um, so I would give it a two. Henry Pouliot: James Salas too a two, because only the battery is not uh techin uh technologically high standard. But the rest of it is. So, I think a two. Sergio Wagner: Yes. Two. James Salas: Two. Paul Wilson: Uh, I say uh a five. It's not fashion, it's new. It must be a fashion. But Henry Pouliot: It Paul Wilson: it isn't. Henry Pouliot: it will be fashion. Paul Wilson: Yes. It w If it's not a fashion we can put it in it. So, it must be a fashion. I think it's a five. James Salas: Uh Okay. Sergio Wagner: Then make it th James Salas: Okay. Sergio Wagner: three. James Salas: Yes, I'll think of Paul Wilson: No. James Salas: that too. Henry Pouliot: 'Kay. Paul Wilson: Oh. Henry Pouliot: Three James Salas: Yeah, Henry Pouliot: is James Salas: agree? Henry Pouliot: okay. Paul Wilson: I use my feet though. Henry Pouliot: Oh, we'll wait outside. James Salas: A three. Paul Wilson: Okay. James Salas: Yeah okay. The next element um is the product looks good. Well personally, I do not prefer a um remote control that's fully in yellow. So, I would give this a five. Henry Pouliot: I give it a one. Sergio Wagner: Yes, a one. I like it. Paul Wilson: Well, I say three. So, counting then is two and a half. James Salas: We have to do our uh Henry Pouliot: Say two. James Salas: Two or three? Paul Wilson: Okay, two. Henry Pouliot: Two. James Salas: Two. Okay. So, well we gonna do the next part. Uh, yep. Uh uh, the next statement. It has not too much buttons. Um, yeah, I I have uh said is not because uh a low number is better. And in the end we calculate an average. So, um that's why it's a negative in it. Um, well this one of our aims not have too much buttons. So, um uh did we uh do that? Well, uh if we go to uh this fashion, I We still have caused uh a lot of uh buttons for the numbers. But you can you can go for that. And um that way, you don't have a lot of buttons over. So, I would give this a two. Henry Pouliot: One. Paul Wilson: You? Sergio Wagner: One. Paul Wilson: James Salas too. One. James Salas: One. Um, but where where is the? Paul Wilson: Next, six. It James Salas: So Paul Wilson: does not get lost easily. James Salas: Yeah, did we implement uh the sound? Henry Pouliot: Uh Sergio Wagner: Yes. Henry Pouliot: Just a small thing. Paul Wilson: No, we did not. Sergio Wagner: Yeah, but Paul Wilson: So, Sergio Wagner: uh Paul Wilson: but can it get lost if it's such Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Paul Wilson: a thing? Henry Pouliot: Ah. Paul Wilson: I don't think so. Henry Pouliot: Yellow. Looks like Paul Wilson: Yes. Henry Pouliot: a pistol. Paul Wilson: Not Henry Pouliot: Uh Paul Wilson: a not a normal shapes. So Henry Pouliot: It won't get between uh the Paul Wilson: No. Henry Pouliot: pillows uh on the couch. Paul Wilson: It James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: won't get lost. So Henry Pouliot: Uh James Salas: It won't. Paul Wilson: A one? Henry Pouliot: Yeah, Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Henry Pouliot: o one. Paul Wilson: Okay, a one. James Salas: One. Paul Wilson: Next. James Salas: Okay, um well we aimed for the younger market. Uh yeah, did we achieve that. I think with the way it looks and um it is designed, I will give it a two. Paul Wilson: Yeah James Salas Henry Pouliot: Yeah. James Salas too. Paul Wilson: That was our target. Two. Henry Pouliot: Two. James Salas: Yeah. Henry Pouliot: Yeah? Paul Wilson: Yep. Henry Pouliot: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Right. There's a fancy look-and-feel. James Salas: Uh, yes. That that was uh, yeah, one of the most important things that uh Trendwatch said. I didn't uh say it in my presentation. But um, well does it have that? I would say yes. So um Well, let's also give this a two. T Henry Pouliot: I gave this a one because of the rubber. It feels soft. Uh, it looks like a l uh uh b uh, a bit like a joystick. It's Yeah. Yeah, f very fancy trendy. Paul Wilson: Okay. Sergio Wagner: Yes, a one. Paul Wilson: I say a two. It's a a bit personal. James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: If it's fancy. So I think s two is better. Sergio Wagner: Yeah, okay. James Salas: Okay. Henry Pouliot: Two is James Salas: Two. Henry Pouliot: okay. James Salas: And um, then the last one I could think of, uh it goes with the latest trends. Paul Wilson: No, it's new. Innovation. James Salas: If we looked at the latest trends for the uh younger people, and they ate uh fruit and vegetables, well it has a um a nice colour, uh well compared to food but we didn't uh We did not paint any uh fruit and vegetable on it for something like that. Henry Pouliot: Oh. James Salas: So, I would did not give this uh a one or two. I We'll go for a three. Henry Pouliot: I go for two because uh the the shapes are still round. Uh, the latest trends are soft things, you know, like uh I said in my presentation. James Salas: Yes. Henry Pouliot: Uh But the the colours are um basic, like yellow, red, um blue. Something what also younger people want. It's also a trend, so I'll give it a two. Paul Wilson: Okay. Sergio Wagner: Mm, three. Paul Wilson: James Salas too. Three. James Salas: A three. Paul Wilson: Yeah. James Salas: Okay. So um, come back to the presentation now. So, we find yourself there, and now we have to calculate an average rating. So, we Paul Wilson: Effort James Salas: will do Paul Wilson: is James Salas: that. Paul Wilson: three, ten James Salas: Yes. Paul Wilson: and twelve. Thirty, forty, fifty, Twenty one. So, it's James Salas: By nine. Paul Wilson: uh two and three nine two and one third. Henry Pouliot: Two. James Salas: Yeah. Um, uh okay. Two. Paul Wilson: Yep. James Salas: Come on. Paul Wilson: Uh, nah. Okay. James Salas: So uh, that's a pretty low rating, I think. Sergio Wagner: Yes. Paul Wilson: So, it's good. James Salas: So, according to our uh own evaluation uh we did a good job. Paul Wilson: Okay. Thank you. Henry Pouliot: Yeah, I think. James Salas: Oh. Nah. How am I doing? Yes. And Paul Wilson: Okay. James Salas: I closed Paul Wilson: Back James Salas: your Paul Wilson: to James Salas: slide-show. Paul Wilson: my uh James Salas: Which one was the last for you? Uh, dreaming. Paul Wilson: Yep. Paul Wilson: Next please. James Salas: Next. Paul Wilson: So, now James Salas: Finance. Paul Wilson: uh we have a product. Very happy. But uh, is it cheap enough? Um, so if uh I'll have a look. We have a battery. One battery. Sergio Wagner: Mm-hmm. Henry Pouliot: Cheapest there is. Paul Wilson: Okay, one battery. Electronics. Advanced chip. Henry Pouliot: Expensive. Paul Wilson: Yeah it's the most advanced. Chip-on-print. We have that one. Henry Pouliot: Well, it's the most Paul Wilson: We have Henry Pouliot: advanced. Paul Wilson: the simple, regular and advanced. Henry Pouliot: Advanced. Paul Wilson: We have the adva advanced. 'Kay, so uncurved or flat. Nope. Single curved or double curved? We have double curved. Paul Wilson: So Then we have plastic, wood, rubber. we have half rubber, half plastic. Sergio Wagner: Mm, yes. Paul Wilson: No titanium. Special colour. Yes, James Salas: Yeah. Henry Pouliot: Uh, Paul Wilson: yellow. Henry Pouliot: yellow. Sergio Wagner: Mm, yeah. Paul Wilson: Interface, push-button. Scroll-wheel, integrated scroll-wheel push push-button, or L_C_D_ display. So, we have the L_C_D_ We have two scroll-wheels? Or one? Henry Pouliot: One. James Salas: One. Paul Wilson: And it's not really Henry Pouliot: Joystick Paul Wilson: a s Henry Pouliot: uh thing. Paul Wilson: Yeah, it's this one. Now, uh button supplement. Special colour. We already Uh, that's the from the for the buttons. The buttons are regular colour. Sergio Wagner: Mm, yeah. Paul Wilson: So, then uh then then then then then then Then Henry Pouliot: We're not gonna make it. Paul Wilson: Uh, no. It's too expensive. Henry Pouliot: Yeah. Wh Paul Wilson: So, we Henry Pouliot: What Paul Wilson: have to change Henry Pouliot: what Paul Wilson: something. Henry Pouliot: are the costs? Paul Wilson: Fifteen Euros. Henry Pouliot: Fifteen. Paul Wilson: Yeah, well uh when we lose one scroll-wheel, it's okay. 'Cause we can't lose the battery. We can't lose the advanced chip. We can't lose the double curve. We have rubber, James Salas: We would have Paul Wilson: special James Salas: uh Paul Wilson: colour. James Salas: n Henry Pouliot: A special colour. Uh, Paul Wilson: Oh, Henry Pouliot: I don't Paul Wilson: no, Henry Pouliot: think Paul Wilson: we Henry Pouliot: it's a very Paul Wilson: No, it's Henry Pouliot: special Paul Wilson: uh Henry Pouliot: colour. Paul Wilson: Sorry? Henry Pouliot: Yellow? Uh, is it a special colour? James Salas: For a remote control. I've Henry Pouliot: What? James Salas: For a remote control, I think it is. Henry Pouliot: Yeah. James Salas: If we would have uh uh normal buttons instead of uh the joystick. For up Paul Wilson: Um, James Salas: down left right. Paul Wilson: then we uh lose two Euros. Then we have thirteen Euros. Half a Euro too much. Exactly the special colours. Henry Pouliot: And Paul Wilson: So Henry Pouliot: what if we use only one sort of um Um just only plastic or only rubber? Paul Wilson: That's one Euro. Henry Pouliot: One Euro discount. Paul Wilson: So, I don't think that's good. Mm Paul Wilson: I think we have to keep the L_C_D_. If Henry Pouliot: If we change the joyst uh the joystick thing into a button up, button down, button right, button left. Paul Wilson: Yes. Then it's only thirteen Euros. Henry Pouliot: And then we'll lose fifty cent in what? Paul Wilson: So uh yeah. Yeah. Then you have Or Henry Pouliot: Uh Paul Wilson: you have to cut this Henry Pouliot: uh-uh. Paul Wilson: off. Then it's not good anymore. Henry Pouliot: No. Paul Wilson: So, wait. Okay. I'll have a look. We Henry Pouliot: And if you say it's just a r uh normal colour it's a normal colour, wh No one Paul Wilson: Yellow Henry Pouliot: will see it. Paul Wilson: rubber. Yeah, normal. Henry Pouliot: Normal colour, and the the joystick away, and put the button up, button down, right, left. Paul Wilson: Uh Henry Pouliot: And it's twelve Euros, I think. Paul Wilson: One minute, please. Uh Is it maximum. Um Paul Wilson: Yeah, it's normal colour. Paul Wilson: still uh an advanced chip? Henry Pouliot: No. Uh, Paul Wilson: Or Henry Pouliot: no, Paul Wilson: it's then Henry Pouliot: no, Paul Wilson: a Henry Pouliot: no. Paul Wilson: regular? Henry Pouliot: Uh Oh, wait wait wait. James Salas: The advanced chip was for the L_C_D_ wasn't it? Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Henry Pouliot: Oh yeah. Paul Wilson: So, the advanced Henry Pouliot: Oh Paul Wilson: is for Henry Pouliot: yeah. Paul Wilson: the L_C_D_ and the regular for the Henry Pouliot: Yeah. Paul Wilson: joystick. Henry Pouliot: Yeah, yeah. Paul Wilson: And what if we lose the L_C_D_? Henry Pouliot: If we lose the L_C_D_, then we have an uh Paul Wilson: Yeah, regular chip. Henry Pouliot: regular chip and Paul Wilson: But Henry Pouliot: no L_C_D_. Paul Wilson: Is it a good design? Henry Pouliot: Uh, yeah. Then you'll have to m uh see the menu on the television. And you don't have the L_C_D_. James Salas: If uh Henry Pouliot: So, the T_V_s has to uh have to be up-to-date. James Salas: If we have the n no buttons If we have we have uh not a joystick but buttons, we would have uh, we have thirteen Euros? Henry Pouliot: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Mm, yes. James Salas: And then uh we move the the colour. What Henry Pouliot: Yeah. James Salas: will that be? Paul Wilson: Then it's okay. Henry Pouliot: Huh. No knew that. James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Okay, so no joystick. Oh no, but we then we get push-buttons from half a Euro. Henry Pouliot: Yeah, then it's twelve Euro fifty, then it's okay. Paul Wilson: Uh, yes, yes, yes, yes. No joystick. Push-buttons. No special colour. Twelve and a half Euros. Then it's okay. So, we have to change that a little bit. And you cannot use the red and green button. Because if you Sergio Wagner: Okay. All the same Paul Wilson: give them Sergio Wagner: uh Paul Wilson: a s uh colour, you have to pay point two Euros. Henry Pouliot: So, all the buttons has to have to be the same colour. Paul Wilson: Yes. Henry Pouliot: But then the print on it will g um change it. Make it uh for everybody to see what button it is. Uh l How Sergio Wagner: Mm, yeah. Henry Pouliot: you call it? Sergio Wagner: Recognisable. Henry Pouliot: Recognisable, Sergio Wagner: Like Henry Pouliot: yeah. Sergio Wagner: what Paul Wilson: Yes. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. Mm, yeah. Paul Wilson: So Henry Pouliot: Yeah? Sergio Wagner: Okay. Henry Pouliot: Okay. Paul Wilson: So Well Now we have to change that, but that's okay. Rubber. What's the normal colour? Henry Pouliot: Oh, well that's clear. Paul Wilson: So And Paul Wilson: Where's? Yeah. Paul Wilson: So, now Henry Pouliot: And Paul Wilson: it's Henry Pouliot: the joystick away. And its buttons. Paul Wilson: Yeah. It is. But then it will be just that ones. Henry Pouliot: Yeah. Paul Wilson: Now it's James Salas: still, he waited at the Paul Wilson: Very good. James Salas: No. Paul Wilson: Now, uh project eva evaluation. Well What do you think of it? Uh Henry Pouliot: About the James Salas: Project. Paul Wilson: About the project. Henry Pouliot: process. Went good. Uh I think uh the creativity uh was good enough. We have a gun instead of a remote control. Um Uh leadership. Yeah, you were the project project manager, and uh had the final vote. So yeah that was clear. Team-work okay. Everybody uh has something uh to say about it. And uh no, uh o only the the drawing uh was very difficult. But, nah. New ideas found. Nope. Paul Wilson: Okay. And you. Sergio Wagner: Yeah, well the same. I I espe I especially uh liked the the means, the the SMARTboard and uh Yeah, it uh It brings up new ideas when you work with uh with it. Paul Wilson: Okay. Sergio Wagner: Yeah. James Salas: Yeah, I think you have to compare it to if you would have a normal um normal project without laptops uh and without these devices. I think um Well, the laptops if you have them out front of you, you sometimes looking at that instead of the presentation. Um, well uh the draw-board, well you can draw things. But it not really going very convenient. Sergio Wagner: Mm-hmm. James Salas: Uh, maybe it will be easier if you have a smaller monitor and uh you would also see there. And with a normal mouse. Um, and uh the project. Yeah, I agree on what was said uh mainly. Uh, yeah but you always have that some people are talking more than others. And maybe is then um the task of the Paul Wilson to also uh ask more to the people uh less talking. To tell their opinion. Paul Wilson: Okay. Well, what do I have to say. I think it was good. Not too many discussions. Henry Pouliot: No. Paul Wilson: So, Sergio Wagner: No. Paul Wilson: it's good for the speed. Henry Pouliot: Yep. Paul Wilson: So, James Salas: Yeah. Paul Wilson: I think we're ready. Good price. Evaluation ready. Ready. Henry Pouliot: Beer. Paul Wilson: That's it. Henry Pouliot: Yeah? James Salas: Okay. Henry Pouliot: Okay then.	Henry Pouliot and user interface designer presented their prototype design, made of yellow rubber and hard plastic, with large, mostly blue buttons, a joystick and LCD screen. Led by James Salas, the group evaluated the prototype on a scale of one to seven, based on a set of evaluation criteria. The overall rating was two. Paul Wilson calculated the production costs, which were too high at fifteen Euros. The group discussed how to make the design cheaper, and decided to keep the LCD screen, but to remove the special colour and replace the joystick with regular push-buttons. Finally Paul Wilson led an evaluation of the project process before closing the meeting. Overall, the group were satisfied with the creativity, teamwork and available equipment, although James Salas thought the SMARTboard and laptops were sometimes distracting and not that helpful.	3	amisum	train
Frank Wilhoite: Good Andrew Langley: G Frank Wilhoite: morning, Flores. Andrew Langley: good morning. Frank Wilhoite: Marketing Expert. Andrew Langley: Oh yeah. Frank Wilhoite: Right. Andrew Langley: Are you ready? You should put the laptop uh right into the square. Frank Wilhoite: For the cameras Andrew Langley: For i for the cameras, yes. Frank Wilhoite: Alright. Andrew Langley: Good morning, Sebastian. Ronald Burton: Good morning, Mister P_M_. How are you today? Andrew Langley: I'm fine. Ronald Burton: How was your business trip to Boston? Andrew Langley: Um well, actually I didn't go, Frank Wilhoite: Geez. Andrew Langley: didn't feel like it. So Do you want to open it as read-only. Um I guess I should close it here. Frank Wilhoite: You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um sen oh stand-by. Close the the Robert Tagliente: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: window. Andrew Langley: Okay, the waiting Frank Wilhoite: So Andrew Langley: is for our Marketing Expert, Frank Wilhoite: That's Andrew Langley: Ruud. Frank Wilhoite: right. Ruud. Andrew Langley: Um project kick-off. Ronald Burton: Is there a schedule for this meeting? Andrew Langley: Yes, there is actually. Um I will li list the agenda for today. For this meeting. Good morning, Ruud. Robert Tagliente: Good morning. Andrew Langley: Uh it's important um Ronald Burton: I shall close the door. Andrew Langley: yeah, great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square, um for the cameras. Okay. Andrew Langley: Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product. Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager Frank Wilhoite: Mm-hmm. Andrew Langley: about it. Um and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as Robert Tagliente, Roo is here as Frank Wilhoite and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct? Ronald Burton: That's correct. Frank Wilhoite: Mm-hmm. Andrew Langley: Okay. Um we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan, uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes, so Frank Wilhoite: Alright. Andrew Langley: we Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: should keep that in mind. Ronald Burton: Um is there any room for a little presentation? Uh maybe during the discussion uh Andrew Langley: There is? Ronald Burton: section? Andrew Langley: Yeah, there is. Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: No problem. Um okay, this new product we are are g are going to develop, um it's a remote control, a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original, it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals, um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop. Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and Frank Wilhoite: Okay. Andrew Langley: all those kind of things. The market, we should have a look at the market. Um we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development, um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design, the conceptual design and the detailed design, um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work, prepare, and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the the Frank Wilhoite: Progressions. Andrew Langley: the progressions, yes. Um the first stage, the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements, and we will um make a specific uh specification of that. Um the second is the technical functional design, um what effect should the remote have? Well in this case control t the the television Frank Wilhoite: It's for the Andrew Langley: I Frank Wilhoite: vision. Andrew Langley: think. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Andrew Langley: Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages, uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it keep it with the functional design. Okay, um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation. Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um to um presentate, to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder, which is on your desktop, at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system. Um yeah, I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh Frank Wilhoite: Sensors. Andrew Langley: sensors, so do not grab it here, but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well, it it's on the um eraser now, so we click the pen button. Andrew Langley: Okay, so not too fast writing. Um you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day. Um you can use the eraser to make something go away. Frank Wilhoite: But we all use the same white-board file Andrew Langley: Yes. Frank Wilhoite: So we can work together on it while we're or Andrew Langley: Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: should we only use it in? Andrew Langley: Yeah, in the meetings, only in the Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Andrew Langley: meetings. Frank Wilhoite: okay. Andrew Langley: It's really like like a regu Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, alright. Andrew Langley: regular whiteboard. Frank Wilhoite: Yep. Andrew Langley: Um you can choose the format, um sorry. Uh Let Robert Tagliente see. Um Well I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour, you can choose another colour. And um for example black, and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy, do have any questions, just c ask Robert Tagliente. Um to um oh well, I'm I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected. Robert Tagliente: Okay. Robert Tagliente: Um green. Robert Tagliente: An animal. Okay. Um Robert Tagliente: Uh Frank Wilhoite: It's a bunny. Robert Tagliente: a wee rabbit. Andrew Langley: A rabbit. Ronald Burton: Alright. Andrew Langley: Okay, well great. Um Roo, could you do the same please? Frank Wilhoite: But of course, Andrew Langley: But Frank Wilhoite: Flores. Andrew Langley: a different animal with a different colour and a different line width. Frank Wilhoite: Blank. Andrew Langley: Sebastian is thinking about the animal. Ronald Burton: I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal. Andrew Langley: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, I'm think about it too. Format. Frank Wilhoite: Well, it looked more than a bunny than a cat, but it works, right? Andrew Langley: It it should be a cat. Robert Tagliente: Yeah. Andrew Langley: Okay? Ronald Burton: Well, I'll give it a try. Ronald Burton: Mm. Andrew Langley: I'm guessing a horse. Ronald Burton: Very good. Frank Wilhoite: With a very small legs. Ronald Burton: I very good in drawing. Frank Wilhoite: You should feed that uh that animal. Ronald Burton: Well, I guess you uh get the idea. Andrew Langley: Yes, okay. Ronald Burton: Beautiful. Andrew Langley: Beautiful. Okay, so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions well, just just let Robert Tagliente know. Um okay, back to our project. Um the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros, which is quite a number. Um we uh we will focus this internationally, so the product will be sold um, if there is market uh interest, uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty, so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development, um because uh, well, those are important numbers. Um then the discussion, maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation. Ronald Burton: Yes, um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion, because uh there might be some uh Andrew Langley: Limitations. Ronald Burton: influations influences. Andrew Langley: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: Okay. Ronald Burton: Okay? Andrew Langley: Okay, great. Ronald Burton: Okay. Um first about my role, role of Ronald Burton. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things, and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas, uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions, but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one. Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that, but well, these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product. Frank Wilhoite: Okay. Ronald Burton: I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance, uh D_V_D_ players, cell phones, video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment. Frank Wilhoite: And for a cell phone? Ronald Burton: Well, there should be some interoperabi Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Ronald Burton: interoperability Frank Wilhoite: okay. Ronald Burton: between them. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore, so infrared is not uh is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things Frank Wilhoite: But Ronald Burton: like uh Bluetooth. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, but the infrared, it's uh, well, a little bit old-fashioned, if you would Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: call it like that. Ronald Burton: But it's Frank Wilhoite: But Ronald Burton: cost-effective. Frank Wilhoite: all the T_V_s are Ronald Burton: Yes. Frank Wilhoite: uh equipped with infrared, so Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: y Ronald Burton: Well, Frank Wilhoite: you you can Ronald Burton: not all, not all. So that's the point. Frank Wilhoite: Most of them. Ronald Burton: So Frank Wilhoite: Or you shou sh use a you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together Ronald Burton: Maybe, Frank Wilhoite: in one Ronald Burton: but Frank Wilhoite: remote. Ronald Burton: that's uh something we should discuss Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role, I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input, and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look, Andrew Langley: Yeah. Ronald Burton: but take these things into account when you start the discussion. Andrew Langley: Okay, so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability, Ronald Burton: Yes, so Andrew Langley: and Ronald Burton: one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment, Andrew Langley: Okay, and Ronald Burton: and Andrew Langley: and Ronald Burton: the Andrew Langley: uh Ronald Burton: way of communicating with these equipments. Andrew Langley: Okay. Okay, good. Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: Um that was your presentation? Ronald Burton: That's it. Andrew Langley: Okay, okay. Um okay. Great. Um I'll go back to my own presentation. Um Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things. Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um how to make it trendy, which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user, which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Frank Wilhoite: Mm-hmm. Andrew Langley: Um so let's start with you. H how do you think the remote should um function for the user? Frank Wilhoite: Well, I had a few uh things in mind. Um well, the interoperability, just like uh Sebastian said, um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um Yeah uh, what is it, devices? Andrew Langley: Yep. Frank Wilhoite: Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store. Ronald Burton: Yes, I think it should Frank Wilhoite: It's not Ronald Burton: be Frank Wilhoite: for Ronald Burton: something Frank Wilhoite: uh Ronald Burton: like Frank Wilhoite: for Ronald Burton: that. Frank Wilhoite: uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product, right? Andrew Langley: Okay, so we're we're going business to consumer, not we're we're it's Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Andrew Langley: not a Frank Wilhoite: I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh Ronald Burton: We're Frank Wilhoite: don't Ronald Burton: not Frank Wilhoite: have Ronald Burton: developing Frank Wilhoite: the information Ronald Burton: this Frank Wilhoite: for Ronald Burton: product Frank Wilhoite: it. Ronald Burton: for a specific vendor, are Andrew Langley: No. Ronald Burton: we? No, Andrew Langley: No. Ronald Burton: we're Frank Wilhoite: No, Ronald Burton: just Frank Wilhoite: okay. Ronald Burton: developing this product, and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public, so Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Andrew Langley: Yeah. Ronald Burton: it should fit to every device. Andrew Langley: Uh Ruud, y Robert Tagliente: Yeah, Andrew Langley: do Robert Tagliente: I Andrew Langley: you Robert Tagliente: think Andrew Langley: agree? Robert Tagliente: I think they're right, yeah. Andrew Langley: Okay. Okay. Frank Wilhoite: Um Well, the techni fu technical function uh what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function. Andrew Langley: Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: So that was my really my part for uh this session. Um Andrew Langley: So is that Ronald Burton: Yeah. Andrew Langley: ease of use or uh is that more like um Frank Wilhoite: Well, that's just the fu the technical function is pure what should the remote control do, wh what is his task uh Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: as an uh as an uh device. It just should change the T_V_'s Andrew Langley: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: state. So that's it. Um but Ronald Burton: And Frank Wilhoite: furthermore Ronald Burton: you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this? Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: Or are there any o other Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Ronald Burton: controls? Frank Wilhoite: with buttons. Ronald Burton: Are there Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Ronald Burton: only Frank Wilhoite: or Ronald Burton: any other Frank Wilhoite: maybe Ronald Burton: cont Frank Wilhoite: you want a touch-screen or Ronald Burton: Well, Frank Wilhoite: But Ronald Burton: I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward, Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: sidewords. Andrew Langley: Uh-huh. Ronald Burton: You know these things. And um it's Frank Wilhoite: They're Ronald Burton: very Frank Wilhoite: very vu Ronald Burton: easy Frank Wilhoite: vulnerable. Ronald Burton: for a user to to switch w yes, Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_, on on a chapters, you know, on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea, I don't know. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. And for other user interface I had um, well, it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_, I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: point directly to the T_V_, so you must point everywhere, so Ronald Burton: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: maybe infrared Andrew Langley: Maybe Frank Wilhoite: is Andrew Langley: not even pointed. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Andrew Langley: Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: just don't even point it, so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: that. Andrew Langley: Okay Ronald Burton: Uh Andrew Langley: Uh Ronald Burton: is that uh are there restriction for the range, the operating range too? So when you're not able to point at the device um Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, if you Ronald Burton: the Frank Wilhoite: g Ronald Burton: range Frank Wilhoite: if you Ronald Burton: is Frank Wilhoite: go to Ronald Burton: very Frank Wilhoite: radio Ronald Burton: limited. Frank Wilhoite: or or yeah. For T_V_, you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_, so I don't think think the range should Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: be a problem to Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: that, but if you want to uh get it working with a radio, and you're in outside your garden with just one uh speaker, Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: then maybe the range should be uh Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: Okay, Frank Wilhoite: But Andrew Langley: gentlemen, um uh just a reminder, we d we have five minutes left for Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: this meeting Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Andrew Langley: um Frank Wilhoite: Two more things. Andrew Langley: okay. Frank Wilhoite: Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons, so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand. You Andrew Langley: Okay, Frank Wilhoite: must feel Andrew Langley: s Frank Wilhoite: the buttons for Andrew Langley: yeah. Frank Wilhoite: volume or whatever, I think. Andrew Langley: Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: And of course you don't always know where all buttons are, so it should be visible al um in dark too. So Andrew Langley: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: when it's dark Those are two really uh user interface Andrew Langley: Uh I'll write down glow in the dark. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. That's Andrew Langley: Is tha Frank Wilhoite: perfect. Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: Okay. Okay, Ronald Burton: Do Andrew Langley: um Ronald Burton: do you Andrew Langley: uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting. Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the such a product? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product? Robert Tagliente: Uh I think most most things have already been said, like uh control multiple devices. Andrew Langley: Mm-hmm. Robert Tagliente: And uh, yeah, infrared might be an issue. Andrew Langley: Because? Robert Tagliente: Uh well, he said about n abo what he said about pointing. Andrew Langley: Mm-hmm. Robert Tagliente: But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So implement that. Andrew Langley: Okay. Okay. Andrew Langley: Okay, Sebastian, did you have any other Ronald Burton: Um Andrew Langley: ideas? Ronald Burton: well yes, I had, uh about three minutes ago, but I've seem to forget them forgot them. Um oh yes, I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark. Um Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control, on which you can see functions? Which makes it easier to operate Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: it. Frank Wilhoite: Well, maybe I um but Ronald Burton: I Frank Wilhoite: it Ronald Burton: I don't Frank Wilhoite: it Ronald Burton: know. Frank Wilhoite: can be quite simple, you can just have white buttons Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: with a black mark Ronald Burton: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: on it. The uh the the digits in Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Frank Wilhoite: black. Uh then it's already visible in dark. Ronald Burton: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy well, Ronald Burton: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: it can Andrew Langley: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: be for Andrew Langley: Yeah, Frank Wilhoite: design, Andrew Langley: yeah, Frank Wilhoite: of course. Andrew Langley: okay, because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product. Ronald Burton: Yes, but Andrew Langley: So Ronald Burton: there's a cost limitation too. Well, that's Andrew Langley: Yeah, Robert Tagliente: Yeah. Ronald Burton: more Andrew Langley: twelve Euro fifty, Ronald Burton: So Andrew Langley: yeah. Ronald Burton: that's a big problem, I think. I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product. The Andrew Langley: Okay. Ronald Burton: cost price is very low. Um Frank Wilhoite: Just remind something. The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade. Andrew Langley: Okay, Ronald Burton: Okay. Frank Wilhoite: You have a m Ronald Burton: Very Andrew Langley: okay. Frank Wilhoite: uh Ronald Burton: good point. Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: Always have s the soft buttons, always uh clear the the the paint on it. The marks. Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: Okay, um I ha I have one point f um which which comes in mind now. Um uh d I think the device should either be rechargeable very Ronald Burton: Mm-hmm. Andrew Langley: easily Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: um or it should not consume too much um power. Because it's very annoying if you need to change the batteries every s uh uh every other week. Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: So um maybe we could um for example uh only Frank Wilhoite: But um Andrew Langley: light the buttons that are um Frank Wilhoite: Necessary, Andrew Langley: uh applicable at that Frank Wilhoite: yeah. Andrew Langley: moment or yeah. I dunno, it's uh that's more Sebastian's Frank Wilhoite: Yeah. Andrew Langley: uh um Ronald Burton: Hmm. Frank Wilhoite: But then Bluetooth uh might be problem. 'Cause I think Bluetooth uh Ronald Burton: It's use uh a lot of uh Frank Wilhoite: Yeah, Andrew Langley: Well Ronald Burton: well Andrew Langley: does Frank Wilhoite: I know Andrew Langley: it? Frank Wilhoite: it from the cell Andrew Langley: I'm Frank Wilhoite: phone. Andrew Langley: not sure. Ronald Burton: Well, Andrew Langley: Uh Ronald Burton: cell phones have uh integrated Bluetooth also and, well, it's it seems to work uh quite okay. Andrew Langley: Yeah. Frank Wilhoite: But Ronald Burton: technically Frank Wilhoite: you can't Ronald Burton: it will Frank Wilhoite: you Ronald Burton: be Frank Wilhoite: can't Ronald Burton: possible. Frank Wilhoite: use Bluetooth all the time, twenty four hours a day. Ronald Burton: No, Andrew Langley: Okay. Ronald Burton: you cannot. Frank Wilhoite: Does it Andrew Langley: Gentlemen, Frank Wilhoite: It's over? Andrew Langley: I'm Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: afraid we do not have any more time. Um Ronald Burton: Okay. Andrew Langley: so we will go back to our own uh work. Um next meeting starts in thirty minutes and um, well, you know your o your individual actions or your personal coach will probably email you about th it. Um so this was it. Frank Wilhoite: Okay. Andrew Langley: See you in thirty minutes. Frank Wilhoite: Great.	Andrew Langley opened the meeting and introduced the project, describing what the project would involve, the role of each participant and the agenda for the first meeting. He the demonstrated the equipment the group would be using, and the group practiced using the SMARTboard by drawing their favourite animals. Andrew Langley then went over the project budget. Ronald Burton gave a brief presentation about his role and his initial ideas for the project, suggesting that the remote should be used for multiple devices and that the group should consider using bluetooth rather than infrared. Andrew Langley then asked the others about their initial ideas. Frank Wilhoite agreed that the remote should control multiple devices. They also discussed having glow in the dark buttons, using bluetooth instead of infrared and using a display and/or a joystick instead of conventional buttons. However, they were unsure about what the budget would allow. Andrew Langley suggested that the remote should be rechargeable or not use much power, but this might be difficult if using bluetooth. Andrew Langley closed the meeting.	3	amisum	train
Gerald Gordon: Welcome back. Jacob Rodriguez: Hello. Terry Cockerham: Hello. Gerald Gordon: Uh let Terry Cockerham see. Jacob Rodriguez: There's one of mine. Gerald Gordon: Okay Roo. welcome back. Jacob Rodriguez: Hello, Flores. Gerald Gordon: The waiting is for Sebastian. There he is. Jacob Rodriguez: We Steve Lugo: Is Jacob Rodriguez: have Steve Lugo: there Jacob Rodriguez: a slight Steve Lugo: any time Jacob Rodriguez: problem. Steve Lugo: for a cup of coffee? Jacob Rodriguez: I opened uh the Gerald Gordon: Sorry? Jacob Rodriguez: C_D_ ROM box Steve Lugo: Can I get Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: a Jacob Rodriguez: guys. Steve Lugo: cup of coffee? Gerald Gordon: Uh no. Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: You can't, sorry. Jacob Rodriguez: So just cancel it. Steve Lugo: Well, during my work I have no time either. So Gerald Gordon: Well, this is life. Sorry uh, Roo. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, I opened the C_D_ ROM box. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: Accidentally. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: But it's alright. Gerald Gordon: People, welcome back with the second meeting. Um for now on the schedule are a few points. Uh first of all the opening, which we are doing now. Um second, I received um some new project requirements. I'm not sure if you received them as well, um but I will tell you about it. Jacob Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: Um then um the three of you uh prepared a presentation, I think? Sebastian? Steve Lugo: I think so too. Gerald Gordon: Roo? Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Ruud? Terry Cockerham: Almost. Gerald Gordon: Almost, okay. Then we'll do your one uh uh as la uh the last. Um the top Jacob Rodriguez: But you can't Gerald Gordon: goal of Jacob Rodriguez: upload Gerald Gordon: this m Jacob Rodriguez: your presentation from here, I believe. Gerald Gordon: Um we will figure that out. Jacob Rodriguez: Okay. Gerald Gordon: Ca Terry Cockerham: Uh Gerald Gordon: can Terry Cockerham: if Gerald Gordon: you try Terry Cockerham: it Gerald Gordon: to Terry Cockerham: if it wireless I could just uh Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Terry Cockerham: it in the. Gerald Gordon: w we will see. Jacob Rodriguez: I don't think it's wireless Gerald Gordon: Um Jacob Rodriguez: here. Steve Lugo: It is. Jacob Rodriguez: Or it is. Gerald Gordon: it Steve Lugo: It Gerald Gordon: is, Steve Lugo: is. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah? Gerald Gordon: yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: Okay, Terry Cockerham: Uh okay. Jacob Rodriguez: great. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Um the top goal of this meeting is to reach a decision on the product, on the target group um and and the functions of the remote control, so keep that in mind. Um we have forty minutes. So it's now Yep. Okay. Um the new project requirements, first of all, um we didn't speak about it, but we should not um support teletext in the remote, um because our b um board uh feels that uh teletext is out of date and internet is replacing teletext. So um we are not even going to try to um implement it in our product. It's a board decision. Um the remote control should only be used for television, because it's not uh f uh feasible, it's not uh Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: w uh uh we we cannot make it because of the time to market um that we have to deal Jacob Rodriguez: Time, Gerald Gordon: with. Jacob Rodriguez: yeah. Gerald Gordon: Uh the third requirement is that we should focus on customers that are younger than uh forty, which is important for you, uh Ruud, and as well for uh Roo. Because the product should um be uh interesting and and uh should be bought by people younger than forty. Um then for Roo, as well uh important, the corporate image should be recognisable in our product. So the colour colours and the slogan um do have to be uh in the product. Jacob Rodriguez: Yes. Gerald Gordon: Is that clear? Any questions on these requirements? No? Okay. Um the individual presentations, I th um Roo or Sebastian, who of you would like to start? Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, I'll start Gerald Gordon: Uh uh Steve Lugo: Yes. Gerald Gordon: yeah. Okay, great. Jacob Rodriguez: Um Oh, how can I uh Geez, and sli and show. Um Just uh press it. Uh yes. Alright. Um well w we uh we had discussed this already in the fin in the previous uh discussion. Uh the method of the remote control is just the function of remote control is basically to send messages to the television set. So that was the main uh important thing Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: what a remote control should do. Then I found uh two different kind of remote controls, the multi-function uh remote control with many possibilities, but um the lack of the feeling I already mentioned uh in the previous uh discussion. Gerald Gordon: Mm-hmm. Jacob Rodriguez: And the ease-of-use remote control with uh the less p possibilities but a great feeling in in touching the buttons. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: Um but um yeah. My personal preferences were ease of uh the easy to use remote control, because uh the user-friendliness and uh it can be more trendy in in user design. But um your new goal f was for uh people than less than forty years old. Gerald Gordon: Uh-huh. Jacob Rodriguez: So maybe um the multi-function can be implemented in uh in our design. But it should b I think it should be a combination, but teletext buttons are not uh in our design. So it should uh take out, well, eight buttons or so. But my in my opinion, the the easy to use R_C_ is uh the best uh possi possibility for us. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Uh Ruud, did you get that? Terry Cockerham: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Terry Cockerham: uh b uh most. Gerald Gordon: Okay, so the important thing here is Jacob Rodriguez: And it's also Terry Cockerham: Oh, Jacob Rodriguez: i Terry Cockerham: user-friendly. Jacob Rodriguez: indeed uh uh Ruud's uh insight in the in the topic. Gerald Gordon: In the market, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Gerald Gordon: yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: what what does the market want? I I don't know. Gerald Gordon: Yeah, okay, w we Jacob Rodriguez: Just Gerald Gordon: will s Jacob Rodriguez: for uh Gerald Gordon: we all Jacob Rodriguez: for Gerald Gordon: uh Jacob Rodriguez: user desi uh user uh friendliness I uh should choose for the the ease of use remote control. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Okay. Sebastian. Steve Lugo: Okay. Steve Lugo: Excuse Terry Cockerham. Jacob Rodriguez: Scusi. Steve Lugo: Um Okay, it's still the right thing. Okay. Um well, there are some changes in the design requirements, so there are some changes in the method also. Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set. And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set. Well, I th I tried to uh implement a picture here, but it's Jacob Rodriguez: Energies Steve Lugo: hardly readable. Jacob Rodriguez: and uh Steve Lugo: Can you see it? Gerald Gordon: No, it's Steve Lugo: No? Gerald Gordon: not visible. Steve Lugo: Well Um, there's a energy source here. And um basically there it's connected to three things. The user interface connected to a chip, which is connected to the sender, which generates messages using uh infrared light, which are sent to the receiver. That's basically the idea. And there's a little picture, just for your imagination, how a device like this should look or can look. Okay. Um what have I found. Usually these kind of things consist of a battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board. That's all. It's cased together, nothing more than that. It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: is controlled infrared. There are some exceptions, but most of all have uh infrared controls. And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons. And I think that's Jacob Rodriguez: The glow Steve Lugo: what Jacob Rodriguez: in Steve Lugo: we Jacob Rodriguez: the dark Steve Lugo: w Jacob Rodriguez: uh concept Steve Lugo: yes. Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: In the and it's Jacob Rodriguez: we discussed. Steve Lugo: a little more a little bit more fancy also. So maybe we should Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: consider that. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: Okay. I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented. Um basically this is all there is. There's just one chip. There are a few buttons connected. Uh the buttons are lit. And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode, and there is not a power source here. So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment. There's nothing Gerald Gordon: So it's Steve Lugo: more Gerald Gordon: fairly Steve Lugo: to it. Gerald Gordon: easy. Steve Lugo: It's fairly easy. It's been done many times before, and Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: I think we should uh Jacob Rodriguez: Succeed Steve Lugo: we should Jacob Rodriguez: in it Steve Lugo: c s Jacob Rodriguez: also. Steve Lugo: succeed in in our plan to do this. Gerald Gordon: Okay, Steve Lugo: So Gerald Gordon: good. Steve Lugo: Okay, so uh personally I think we should infra use infrared, because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set. So I think that uh should be clear. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse, friendly components. Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components. And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design, we should really implement them. Um for cost-effectiveness, we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board, um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques, blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff. I think our uh users will really uh will really like that. Jacob Rodriguez: And what's the um if we use the LEDs, i does it use much more energy or Steve Lugo: No, they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also. Jacob Rodriguez: Okay. Steve Lugo: So we can use them. So that's no problem. Jacob Rodriguez: For the same costs, Steve Lugo: Uh Jacob Rodriguez: it's can Steve Lugo: no, Jacob Rodriguez: be Steve Lugo: they're Jacob Rodriguez: uh in Steve Lugo: uh Jacob Rodriguez: our Steve Lugo: they're a little bit more expensive, but by uh um um Jacob Rodriguez: Combined Steve Lugo: making Jacob Rodriguez: with the low-cost circuit board so it's Steve Lugo: We can Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: we can make its I think. Terry Cockerham: Well you could only lit uh the buttons the buttons that are used most. So, the channel switching. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Terry Cockerham: Or Gerald Gordon: Yeah, but Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes Jacob Rodriguez: But I Gerald Gordon: such Jacob Rodriguez: think Gerald Gordon: a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques, Steve Lugo: Hmm. Gerald Gordon: I guess. Terry Cockerham: Hmm, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, I Terry Cockerham: true. Jacob Rodriguez: think it's the same as in the cell phone, just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons, and Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: not for Steve Lugo: Well, it's not one light, it there are more lights in a in a in a Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, but Steve Lugo: mobile Jacob Rodriguez: not for Steve Lugo: device. Jacob Rodriguez: each button Steve Lugo: No Jacob Rodriguez: one Steve Lugo: no no, Jacob Rodriguez: LED, I think. Steve Lugo: no. That's right, that's right. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: So well, this uh should be it. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: Um have a think about it. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Okay, Terry Cockerham: Oh, Gerald Gordon: Ruud. Terry Cockerham: mine is already outdated. Gerald Gordon: Okay well, we ar we Terry Cockerham: Since Gerald Gordon: are Terry Cockerham: uh Gerald Gordon: very curio curious to what the market um will feel about such a product. So any income is welcome. Input. Terry Cockerham: Okay, make Well Uh then I'm sure the target market is uh ten million units. Jacob Rodriguez: Could Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: you step a little bit more to the right? Yeah, Terry Cockerham: But um Jacob Rodriguez: thank you. Terry Cockerham: since uh the other part is uh forty percent of the market, I uh thought earlier we might want to constrain that portion of the market. But uh since uh the requirements changed, that's uh not a good idea. Uh well, skip this. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Terry Cockerham: Well, it's this till true, of course. That they only use ten percent the buttons. The buttons to zap are used the about uh fifteen hundred times, when uh the power button is only used one time. And the volume button's only four times. So they're obv obviously uh the most important buttons. And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control. Steve Lugo: Mm. Terry Cockerham: So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them. Some uh audio signal. Like Gerald Gordon: Okay. Terry Cockerham: uh home phones. Or Gerald Gordon: Well, that's Steve Lugo: Or Gerald Gordon: interesting. Steve Lugo: a find a finding Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: function, Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Steve Lugo: you know. That's Gerald Gordon: that's Steve Lugo: quite Gerald Gordon: definitely Steve Lugo: a Gerald Gordon: interesting. Steve Lugo: yes. Gerald Gordon: It uh Jacob Rodriguez: Sound Gerald Gordon: it separates Jacob Rodriguez: signal. Gerald Gordon: our product from others uh Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: as well. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Okay, Steve Lugo: Yes. Gerald Gordon: go on. Terry Cockerham: Well, I just said that. And uh well, this obvious, and he also said it. Gerald Gordon: Okay. So that's what the market tells us. Terry Cockerham: Uh that's about it, Gerald Gordon: Yep. Terry Cockerham: yes. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: The volume and uh the zap buttons are the mostly used. Terry Cockerham: Uh mo uh zap Jacob Rodriguez: So Terry Cockerham: buttons most. Volume, they are uh use a lot. But Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Terry Cockerham: more than Jacob Rodriguez: well Terry Cockerham: all Jacob Rodriguez: it Terry Cockerham: the Jacob Rodriguez: should Terry Cockerham: other buttons. Jacob Rodriguez: just Terry Cockerham: So Jacob Rodriguez: have a design The perfect design for those only those buttons. Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: And first um Steve Lugo: Yes, we should focus on that, I guess. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: Well, the technical uh there I think there are no technical difficulties. There's no um elaborate technique uh used in this uh kind of equipment. So um I don't think we have any hiccups there. So we can fully concentrate on developing a product that is really um what the market needs. So maybe it's a good idea to think about these buttons and and Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Steve Lugo: uh Jacob Rodriguez: the sound signal. Steve Lugo: and a sound Jacob Rodriguez: Just one Steve Lugo: signal. Jacob Rodriguez: thing I'm just wondering, the sound signal, from where do you Terry Cockerham: Yeah, that's Jacob Rodriguez: execute Steve Lugo: Well Terry Cockerham: uh Jacob Rodriguez: th the s sound? Steve Lugo: Yes. Th Terry Cockerham: a problem. Steve Lugo: that's Jacob Rodriguez: Another Steve Lugo: a bit of Jacob Rodriguez: device Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: is not a Steve Lugo: that's Jacob Rodriguez: solution. Steve Lugo: a problem. Gerald Gordon: Well maybe Steve Lugo: Usually Jacob Rodriguez: It should be Gerald Gordon: maybe Jacob Rodriguez: uh uh Gerald Gordon: like clapping in your hands, like um Steve Lugo: Oh Gerald Gordon: turning Steve Lugo: yes. Gerald Gordon: on and off the the the Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Gerald Gordon: lights. Jacob Rodriguez: but maybe Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: you'll uh get Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: some Steve Lugo: there Jacob Rodriguez: new Steve Lugo: there Jacob Rodriguez: technologies Steve Lugo: are some devices Jacob Rodriguez: for it. Steve Lugo: who uh incorporate this technique already. Um there are video sets and um they have a special button, the find the remote control button. You press it and your T_V_ set starts to make a uh kind of weird sound, and your uh remote controls then start Gerald Gordon: Reports Steve Lugo: to beep. Gerald Gordon: rep Steve Lugo: And Gerald Gordon: respend Steve Lugo: um Gerald Gordon: response Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, just Gerald Gordon: to it. Jacob Rodriguez: like uh Steve Lugo: Yes. Yes, that's it. Jacob Rodriguez: the phones the Steve Lugo: Yes, Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Steve Lugo: same thing. Gerald Gordon: But Jacob Rodriguez: But but Gerald Gordon: uh Jacob Rodriguez: T_V_s Gerald Gordon: th Jacob Rodriguez: don't have all uh Steve Lugo: No, so we Jacob Rodriguez: uh buttons. Steve Lugo: we Terry Cockerham: And Steve Lugo: should Terry Cockerham: you Steve Lugo: use Jacob Rodriguez: Uh Steve Lugo: something else. Terry Cockerham: Yeah, Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Terry Cockerham: and usually Gerald Gordon: because Jacob Rodriguez: But I believe Gerald Gordon: we do not Jacob Rodriguez: you will Gerald Gordon: have a Jacob Rodriguez: have Gerald Gordon: a Jacob Rodriguez: an Gerald Gordon: a a a home um Steve Lugo: We do not control the T_V_ set so Terry Cockerham: And Steve Lugo: well. Terry Cockerham: even if the T_V_ set would have such a button, uh you would have to walk Steve Lugo: Yes, Terry Cockerham: to your T_V_, Steve Lugo: m yes. S Terry Cockerham: and it's Steve Lugo: so it's is easy as possible for our customers, Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: so Gerald Gordon: So Steve Lugo: we should Gerald Gordon: what Steve Lugo: think Gerald Gordon: about the Steve Lugo: about Gerald Gordon: clapping technique? Um because Jacob Rodriguez: I'm Gerald Gordon: you se Jacob Rodriguez: convinced uh Sebastian will uh find Steve Lugo: It's quite Jacob Rodriguez: uh one Steve Lugo: complicated. Jacob Rodriguez: solution for Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: us. Steve Lugo: it's quite complicated. Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds. Terry Cockerham: And Gerald Gordon: Well, you Terry Cockerham: b Gerald Gordon: see it a lot in in light uh lightning Steve Lugo: Yes, yes. Gerald Gordon: uh uh Steve Lugo: Well, basically the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume, Gerald Gordon: Yeah, a Steve Lugo: the amplitude Gerald Gordon: peak. Yeah. Steve Lugo: of the sound, which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from Terry Cockerham: So Steve Lugo: the Terry Cockerham: if Steve Lugo: point of Terry Cockerham: if Steve Lugo: view Terry Cockerham: you'd Steve Lugo: from Terry Cockerham: be Steve Lugo: a remote Terry Cockerham: watching Steve Lugo: control. Terry Cockerham: a movie, it would constantly beep. Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Steve Lugo: Yes, Gerald Gordon: that's true. Steve Lugo: so we don't Jacob Rodriguez: But we Steve Lugo: want Jacob Rodriguez: can Steve Lugo: that. Jacob Rodriguez: have just uh uh Steve Lugo: Maybe we Jacob Rodriguez: a Steve Lugo: can Jacob Rodriguez: home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_. Just a little antenna or uh something. Steve Lugo: Something like that. Jacob Rodriguez: Well Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: if you lost Steve Lugo: is there Gerald Gordon: Well Steve Lugo: not Gerald Gordon: uh Jacob Rodriguez: th Steve Lugo: something f Jacob Rodriguez: I Steve Lugo: something Jacob Rodriguez: don't think Steve Lugo: more Jacob Rodriguez: people Steve Lugo: easily Jacob Rodriguez: would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button Steve Lugo: Well, I don't think uh. Jacob Rodriguez: because they lost the their remote. Uh that's Steve Lugo: No, and Jacob Rodriguez: just Steve Lugo: y Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: the the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh. And then uh the remote control uh reports itself, so w we should use have uh we should use something like that. You do not want another device, which can be uh everywhere in the house, which you have to find first before you can find your remote control. Jacob Rodriguez: just a base station next to the T_V_ Steve Lugo: Yes, Jacob Rodriguez: is Steve Lugo: something like that. Jacob Rodriguez: the best Steve Lugo: But that will be very Jacob Rodriguez: possibility. Steve Lugo: costly, I think. So Gerald Gordon: Yeah, m Steve Lugo: that's Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: maybe Steve Lugo: not a good idea. Gerald Gordon: um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function, if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things. Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later Steve Lugo: I will. Gerald Gordon: on and um come up with a solution, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Yes. Gerald Gordon: because that's his his field of expertise. Steve Lugo: Yes. But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated Gerald Gordon: Mm-hmm. Steve Lugo: um and it will become more costly also. Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used. And there are some Jacob Rodriguez: And Steve Lugo: implepe Jacob Rodriguez: do we even Steve Lugo: imp Jacob Rodriguez: uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs, the lightning Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: I I think Jacob Rodriguez: function? Steve Lugo: so, because um when you have a p newspaper Jacob Rodriguez: It's Steve Lugo: over Jacob Rodriguez: a unique Steve Lugo: your remote control, Jacob Rodriguez: item uh Steve Lugo: you cannot see it. So Gerald Gordon: Yeah, it's a distinction Jacob Rodriguez: It will be an Gerald Gordon: in Jacob Rodriguez: a Gerald Gordon: the market. Jacob Rodriguez: unique feature Gerald Gordon: It's a different Jacob Rodriguez: of Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: our Gerald Gordon: exactly. Jacob Rodriguez: remote control. Gerald Gordon: It's an uni an unique feature, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights. Jacob Rodriguez: And just about uh the user interface, I came up with um an easy remote control and an advanced remote control. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: What should we choose in in design? Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Well, um according to Ruud, um people do not use um Jacob Rodriguez: Well, the extra functions. Gerald Gordon: all the extra features very very often. So Terry Cockerham: I have the numbers r I have the numbers right here. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Terry Cockerham: Well, t uh we won't support teletext which which was the third-most Jacob Rodriguez: Used Terry Cockerham: the second-most Jacob Rodriguez: option. Terry Cockerham: used function. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Well, Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: we we do have a wise board, so I'm not questioning that. Terry Cockerham: Uh well yeah, channel selection is obviously the most important. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Okay, so on Terry Cockerham: So Gerald Gordon: the relevance scale uh the channel selection, the volume selection and the teletext. Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Well, we skip Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: that. Terry Cockerham: So Jacob Rodriguez: Well, Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: so it just th the basic functions. And we don't have to use it for D_V_D_ players uh and all kind Steve Lugo: No, Jacob Rodriguez: of stuff. Gerald Gordon: No. Jacob Rodriguez: So Steve Lugo: no. Terry Cockerham: Nope. Steve Lugo: So that's out of the question. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: So Jacob Rodriguez: Just through uh the easy uh design. Gerald Gordon: go Jacob Rodriguez: We Gerald Gordon: for Jacob Rodriguez: can Gerald Gordon: the Jacob Rodriguez: make Gerald Gordon: easier Jacob Rodriguez: uh Gerald Gordon: one. Jacob Rodriguez: a nice design Steve Lugo: I Jacob Rodriguez: when Steve Lugo: think also. Jacob Rodriguez: when there's not mu uh much Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: buttons in it. So Steve Lugo: Well, we Gerald Gordon: No. Steve Lugo: should save costs uh by not implementing a lot of functions and uh the money that we can save from that we should use for uh having a nice design and Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: uh thinking about the user interface and Gerald Gordon: Okay, Ruud, how do you feel about that? Uh do you agree, do you think the market would would respond to uh a simple Terry Cockerham: Uh well if we um include other uh innovative functions Gerald Gordon: Mm-hmm. Terry Cockerham: uh then they uh might, 'cause young people uh like new features. Gerald Gordon: Mm Terry Cockerham: So Gerald Gordon: yeah. Steve Lugo: Yeah, that's right. Gerald Gordon: Okay, Steve Lugo: Mm. Gerald Gordon: so this is is kind of uh Jacob Rodriguez: Uh just a few buttons, trendy design, nice lightning effects Steve Lugo: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: wh and Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: the Steve Lugo: is Jacob Rodriguez: sound. Steve Lugo: it maybe there's another possibility. You can make it look like an easy s piece of equipment, but it's quite elaborated, uh because it has many functions. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Maybe it's more important to make the make it look like a very uh friendly, easy to catch piece of equipment, but um Gerald Gordon: But but Steve Lugo: nevertheless Gerald Gordon: are we not in in the in the manual uh I mean if you have few buttons, no Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: display, Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: um I mean uh I guess it's l it's working with with a shift functions and um one button can Steve Lugo: Ok Gerald Gordon: uh Steve Lugo: like that. Well, I was more thinking about a more elaborate way of controlling, by by these kinds of sticks or something like that. I don't know if if it's user-friendly. That's your field of expertise. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Gerald Gordon: But Jacob Rodriguez: I don't Gerald Gordon: but how Jacob Rodriguez: know Gerald Gordon: does Jacob Rodriguez: yet. Gerald Gordon: how does the remote uh report uh r uh give back to the user w in what state it is? Because we do not implement Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: uh a Steve Lugo: There's Gerald Gordon: user Steve Lugo: no, Gerald Gordon: history. Steve Lugo: but there's no way to do that, because we cannot implement that kind of the system. Gerald Gordon: I know, Steve Lugo: W Gerald Gordon: but but if we use uh like a stick, for example, Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: um Steve Lugo: Well, maybe we can use a light for that. When you move the stick to a to a position, maybe uh a light next to it can lit up. So you know I've just uh pushed the button, or I changed the channel or t uh turned up the volume. Something like that. Terry Cockerham: And if you use that stick for volume control and channel uh selection, you have the m two most important functions Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Yes. Gerald Gordon: Uh Terry Cockerham: in one uh Gerald Gordon: and Terry Cockerham: button. Gerald Gordon: we could Jacob Rodriguez: But Gerald Gordon: have Jacob Rodriguez: does Gerald Gordon: other Jacob Rodriguez: it Gerald Gordon: buttons Jacob Rodriguez: uh Gerald Gordon: for Jacob Rodriguez: I Gerald Gordon: the Jacob Rodriguez: then Gerald Gordon: for the Jacob Rodriguez: should Gerald Gordon: advanced Jacob Rodriguez: n just Gerald Gordon: uh Jacob Rodriguez: use Gerald Gordon: functions. Jacob Rodriguez: uh i instead of the stick, uh like many cell phones, just a round m well, should we Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: just Gerald Gordon: draw Jacob Rodriguez: use Gerald Gordon: draw it Jacob Rodriguez: a Gerald Gordon: on the board. Jacob Rodriguez: oh, we have a blank. Oh. Steve Lugo: Oh yeah, something like that. It's Jacob Rodriguez: It's Steve Lugo: not Jacob Rodriguez: just Steve Lugo: really a Jacob Rodriguez: an Steve Lugo: stick, Jacob Rodriguez: easy Steve Lugo: but Jacob Rodriguez: uh way of of a round button what which can be pushed in Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: four directions. Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: Instead of a stick. A stick is v vulnerab vulnerable Steve Lugo: Hmm. Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: when Gerald Gordon: it Jacob Rodriguez: it's Gerald Gordon: can Jacob Rodriguez: falling Gerald Gordon: break down. Jacob Rodriguez: down or uh Steve Lugo: Yes, Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Steve Lugo: yes. Jacob Rodriguez: just a round uh button Steve Lugo: And Jacob Rodriguez: should be the trick, I think. Steve Lugo: Yes, and this also looks more fancy, I think. I think Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: it it will attract uh more Terry Cockerham: A Steve Lugo: uh uh Terry Cockerham: younger Steve Lugo: public, Terry Cockerham: uh Steve Lugo: I think. Terry Cockerham: Huh. Steve Lugo: But you're the marketing man. Terry Cockerham: And it's also quite easy to use, so it'll it uh attract younger people because well new, and it might attract older people because it's easy to use. Jacob Rodriguez: Geez. Well, volume and something uh like that. Gerald Gordon: Uh-huh. Jacob Rodriguez: The programme up and down. Gerald Gordon: Okay, yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: And the vol yeah, the pen doesn't uh really does what I want. Steve Lugo: Okay, that's good. Gerald Gordon: Okay, but w we still we're still in the question of uh um uh putting in advanced options. Um Ruud just told us um the market is interested in some advanced uh new techniques. Um however, uh keeping it simple is is important for the costs and all all those kind of things. We need to find a balance between Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: uh the advanced techniques and and the user-friendliness. Jacob Rodriguez: But I think our our next step to look at is just that. So I don't think it's um we have something to do. Uh we can't discuss it right now, because n no one of us have has the information to discuss about that, Gerald Gordon: Um well, Jacob Rodriguez: I think. Gerald Gordon: for we do have to uh decide this this meeting. Jacob Rodriguez: Yes? Gerald Gordon: Yeah. We need to um have the uh the user function uh the functions Jacob Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: decided and um Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: uh our target audience. Jacob Rodriguez: 'Kay, Steve Lugo: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: but teletext is so uh is just Steve Lugo: Do Jacob Rodriguez: scrapped. Steve Lugo: do you want a list of functions? Do you want an explicit list? Uh which uh incorporates all function available on the device? Gerald Gordon: Um well, I do not want a full uh it's not necessary to to have a full list, but I want um the kind of functions, for Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: example Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: uh th the most important are volume and uh programme selecting. Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Jacob Rodriguez: The ten digits. Gerald Gordon: Well, for example, that that's what we should think about. l how is the remote going to look? Jacob Rodriguez: Oh, Gerald Gordon: Not not in the user Jacob Rodriguez: and just Gerald Gordon: interface, Jacob Rodriguez: one function. Gerald Gordon: but Jacob Rodriguez: The the the the programme to programme button, the switch to uh two channels, Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Jacob Rodriguez: when you have uh something on channel Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: four and something on channel six, Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: just one button which which can uh Gerald Gordon: A Steve Lugo: Change. Gerald Gordon: bit of a split Jacob Rodriguez: change Gerald Gordon: mode. Uh l like Jacob Rodriguez: yeah. Steve Lugo: Yes, yes. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Dual channel watch. Steve Lugo: Yes. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Okay, well um m maybe I should write that down. Steve Lugo: Well you're the secretary. Gerald Gordon: Uh Ruud, um what's your last name? Terry Cockerham: Mielsen. Gerald Gordon: Mielsen, because I I was writing it down in the last uh Mielsen. Right. Um I put all the minutes I make into the shared folder. So if you want to have a look at it, you know where to find Steve Lugo: Mm Gerald Gordon: it. Steve Lugo: okay, Jacob Rodriguez: Alright. Steve Lugo: but Gerald Gordon: Um Steve Lugo: make a s make a sub-folder for it, because it's starting to fill up already. Gerald Gordon: Yeah, that's Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: that's if you want to do it, Sebastian. Steve Lugo: Sure. Jacob Rodriguez: Our B_S_C_ uh W_ uh Gerald Gordon: Okay, um Okay, so so um uh Volume. Programme. Uh dual channel. Uh Steve Lugo: Yes, that's important. Gerald Gordon: And and do we want um Jacob Rodriguez: The Gerald Gordon: the Jacob Rodriguez: ten Gerald Gordon: ten Jacob Rodriguez: digits? Gerald Gordon: digits? Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: I believe so. Steve Lugo: are are you sure? Terry Cockerham: Well, if you want to go Steve Lugo: I'm Terry Cockerham: to Steve Lugo: not so Terry Cockerham: channel Steve Lugo: sure. Terry Cockerham: ninety and you have th that button. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Well, that's complicated, Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: but is that so relevant? Because I don't think but you should uh shou Jacob Rodriguez: I wouldn't Steve Lugo: you should know Jacob Rodriguez: buy Steve Lugo: that. Jacob Rodriguez: it personally. Steve Lugo: If it Jacob Rodriguez: A remote Steve Lugo: were so. Jacob Rodriguez: control without the ten digits. Steve Lugo: Okay, I can Jacob Rodriguez: Uh Steve Lugo: imagine Jacob Rodriguez: and I think Steve Lugo: when Jacob Rodriguez: the Gerald Gordon: I Jacob Rodriguez: most Gerald Gordon: agree actually. Steve Lugo: I can Jacob Rodriguez: Just Steve Lugo: imagine Jacob Rodriguez: elder Steve Lugo: when Jacob Rodriguez: elder Steve Lugo: you're when Jacob Rodriguez: people Steve Lugo: you Terry Cockerham: Well Steve Lugo: have a Jacob Rodriguez: would Steve Lugo: satellite Jacob Rodriguez: would buy Steve Lugo: decoder Jacob Rodriguez: it, but Steve Lugo: and and you have, well, about six hundred channels, I can imagine you want this. But if you're uh a regular T_V_ user, and you just want uh to watch the the Dutch television networks, well, you can uh you can use uh about ten buttons. Gerald Gordon: But Steve Lugo: That's enough. Gerald Gordon: we do Terry Cockerham: But Gerald Gordon: have Jacob Rodriguez: Yep. Gerald Gordon: thirteen different Dutch channels. Terry Cockerham: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: The older Terry Cockerham: and Steve Lugo: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: people Terry Cockerham: if Steve Lugo: but Jacob Rodriguez: only Steve Lugo: how Terry Cockerham: if Jacob Rodriguez: use Terry Cockerham: we Steve Lugo: how Jacob Rodriguez: five Steve Lugo: often Jacob Rodriguez: of them. Steve Lugo: do you watch Terry Cockerham: And if Steve Lugo: all Terry Cockerham: we are Steve Lugo: these channels? Terry Cockerham: targeting Gerald Gordon: Often. Terry Cockerham: at the younger audience, they will probably watch more channels than the older people. So Steve Lugo: No, you're probably right. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Okay. But I think these uh ten uh buttons look a bit dull. Don't you think? Gerald Gordon: Well, it depends on the on the on the Steve Lugo: The Gerald Gordon: looks, Steve Lugo: design. Gerald Gordon: on the Jacob Rodriguez: On Gerald Gordon: on Jacob Rodriguez: the design. Gerald Gordon: the Steve Lugo: Okay. Well, y then there should be Terry Cockerham: Well Steve Lugo: should done be done Gerald Gordon: You Steve Lugo: something specific Gerald Gordon: c Terry Cockerham: And Steve Lugo: with Gerald Gordon: you Steve Lugo: it. Gerald Gordon: can d make them very fancy by um I mean Nokia, they have ten digits on their phones Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: and it still looks very fancy. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: So I'm I'm I do not agree Uh Steve Lugo: Okay, so you can experiment by uh with with shape or with size or with colour, that Gerald Gordon: Exactly, Steve Lugo: kind of thing. Gerald Gordon: exactly. Steve Lugo: Okay. Terry Cockerham: And um there are some numbers about uh speech recognition here that uh younger people would like it. Uh it might be expensive and uh hard to implement, but it would be a solution uh Gerald Gordon: Okay, Terry Cockerham: for Gerald Gordon: speech. Steve Lugo: Well, maybe it can be combined with the find the remote control. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: So um when you add uh speech recognition to your remote control, uh it's very easy to change uh the channel. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: That's one thing. And it's very easy uh Gerald Gordon: To Steve Lugo: to Gerald Gordon: find Steve Lugo: find your remote control. Gerald Gordon: yeah. Steve Lugo: So maybe that's a possibility, but I'm afraid it will be a bit costly. Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Steve Lugo: But Gerald Gordon: Uh Steve Lugo: maybe when we uh Gerald Gordon: If if we would um drop the ten digits Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Gerald Gordon: but keep the programme and the volume, because maybe Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: people do not always want to use their voice, Steve Lugo: Okay, okay. Gerald Gordon: um Terry Cockerham: Especially elder people uh don't like voice recognition. So then we should implement such a but Gerald Gordon: Yeah. But we do focus on younger people. We d Steve Lugo: Okay. Terry Cockerham: Yes. Gerald Gordon: it it's a board Steve Lugo: Well. Gerald Gordon: uh decision. Steve Lugo: I I think it should uh should work, it sh we should manage that. Jacob Rodriguez: So we have to i Gerald Gordon: Okay. Jacob Rodriguez: to make um a decision between the ten digits or the voice recognition. Steve Lugo: Yes. Well, the voice recognition has the main adva has another advantage. It's mas it makes it very easy for us to implement the find uh find the remote control button uh remote control Jacob Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Steve Lugo: function. So Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: that's that's a big advantage, I think. Gerald Gordon: Okay, g good. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: There's only one disadvantage uh by implementing this. Um the power saving power saving will be a bit more difficult. So we can expect that there will be a less longer life to the batteries. Gerald Gordon: Mm. Steve Lugo: But maybe can we we can think something smart about it. Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries. Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: So when you just Gerald Gordon: But Steve Lugo: leave the device in a in a light room, it charges itself. You have Gerald Gordon: But Steve Lugo: to do nothing Gerald Gordon: but can Steve Lugo: for Gerald Gordon: we Steve Lugo: it. Gerald Gordon: manage it Terry Cockerham: M Gerald Gordon: bu uh for the costs? Because it seems Jacob Rodriguez: Twelve Gerald Gordon: like Jacob Rodriguez: dollar Gerald Gordon: a very Jacob Rodriguez: fifty. Terry Cockerham: And uh if Steve Lugo: Maybe, Terry Cockerham: we Steve Lugo: maybe not. Terry Cockerham: if Steve Lugo: I'll Terry Cockerham: we Steve Lugo: have to Terry Cockerham: could Steve Lugo: find that Terry Cockerham: inc Steve Lugo: out. Terry Cockerham: uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge, Steve Lugo: Yes. Terry Cockerham: then Steve Lugo: So Terry Cockerham: there wouldn't be uh a big problem. Steve Lugo: No, that's Terry Cockerham: 'Cause Steve Lugo: very Terry Cockerham: when Steve Lugo: cheap. Gerald Gordon: Is Steve Lugo: It's Gerald Gordon: a cradle very cheap? Steve Lugo: Oh, it's very cheap. That's no problem. It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts. Gerald Gordon: I know, Steve Lugo: It's Gerald Gordon: b uh but there should be an adapter as well. Steve Lugo: Yes, but they're they're Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Steve Lugo: mass production. They're very cheap. So Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: it will cost us p practically nothing. Gerald Gordon: Okay. We we have uh about ten minutes left this meeting. Um I would like to hear um maybe maybe you all have th uh things not um spoken about, yeah, but that are important. Uh Ruud, you you came up with the voice recognition uh data. Uh are there other things about the market we should know? Terry Cockerham: Um I think we dealt with the most important information. Just that the younger part of uh the market isn't the forty percent we uh want to sell to. So we we should uh for least a bit uh look at the uh older people. But with Gerald Gordon: Okay. Terry Cockerham: uh buttons like that, which are easy to use, we uh might attract them too. So Gerald Gordon: Okay. Terry Cockerham: I don't think that's a big problem Steve Lugo: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Okay, so although we are focussing on younger people uh to make it uh profitable uh Terry Cockerham: Yes. Steve Lugo: Profitable. Terry Cockerham: Yeah, profitable. Gerald Gordon: Profitable. We we yeah, we still need to take in account the the bit older people. Terry Cockerham: Yes. Gerald Gordon: Okay. O okay. Um Roo. Jacob Rodriguez: I have nothing uh nothing to add, Gerald Gordon: Nothing to Jacob Rodriguez: I think. Gerald Gordon: add. Sebastian? Steve Lugo: Um I just want to make a summary of all all things Gerald Gordon: Yeah? Steve Lugo: uh spoken and uh Gerald Gordon: Great. Steve Lugo: the different possibilities. Um so uh basically we've decided to implement a seemingly uh easy design. So on the outside it looks easy, but uh we can make it easy on the inside or elaborate on the inside. So that's one the those are the choices we have to make. But I think there's a big advantage in making it more elaborate by uh implementing uh speech techniques, uh Gerald Gordon: Mm-hmm. Steve Lugo: voice recognition, that these kinds of things. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: Um it makes it also more uh attractable, I think, to our uh audience. Um there are some advantages and some disadvantages, and the main advantage is that we can implement uh fancy techniques, which uh I think our customers will like. The disadvantage is that there are some concerns about uh the the costs and um the things like uh battery lifetime, energy saving. Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: Uh another advantage is that the circuit board will become much more easier if we do not do not implement these buttons. If we just add uh uh a chip which does the voice recognition, uh our circuit board will become even more cheap. So Gerald Gordon: Yeah, and that was Steve Lugo: that's another Gerald Gordon: the main issue, right? The Steve Lugo: well, it Gerald Gordon: the Steve Lugo: wa Gerald Gordon: board Steve Lugo: it w it was an issue, but we also thought that we already thought we should do it as cheaply as possible. Gerald Gordon: Yeah. Steve Lugo: And this even uh makes it more cheapy. So Jacob Rodriguez: But the cheaper the ch uh the the chip or th Steve Lugo: Mm-hmm. Jacob Rodriguez: what was Gerald Gordon: The Jacob Rodriguez: it? Gerald Gordon: board. Jacob Rodriguez: The Steve Lugo: The Jacob Rodriguez: circuit Steve Lugo: circuit Jacob Rodriguez: board. Steve Lugo: board. Jacob Rodriguez: The fewer buttons you can use Steve Lugo: The Gerald Gordon: No, Steve Lugo: fewer Jacob Rodriguez: on Gerald Gordon: it's Jacob Rodriguez: it. Gerald Gordon: th Steve Lugo: buttons you have, Gerald Gordon: yeah. Steve Lugo: the ch ch the cheaper Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah, Steve Lugo: the circuit Jacob Rodriguez: okay. Steve Lugo: board, Gerald Gordon: It's the other way around, Steve Lugo: yes. Gerald Gordon: yeah. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Steve Lugo: And it's very cheap uh to incorporate uh uh an integrated circuit, a chip. So that's that's another Gerald Gordon: It shouldn't be Steve Lugo: advantage. Gerald Gordon: a big issue. Jacob Rodriguez: Well it then Steve Lugo: So Jacob Rodriguez: we should just uh take a look at the costs and Steve Lugo: Yes, Jacob Rodriguez: uh Steve Lugo: because I don't Jacob Rodriguez: especially Steve Lugo: know Jacob Rodriguez: for the voice recognition. Steve Lugo: Yes. I d I really don't know. So Jacob Rodriguez: No. Steve Lugo: It Gerald Gordon: Okay. Steve Lugo: can be costly. Maybe not. Gerald Gordon: I'm not sure how how we'll f uh determine the costs, I will have a look at it. Maybe you will Steve Lugo: Yes. Gerald Gordon: get some information on that. Um Steve Lugo: Yes, Gerald Gordon: I'm Steve Lugo: I Gerald Gordon: not Steve Lugo: al Gerald Gordon: sure how how Steve Lugo: I Gerald Gordon: that Steve Lugo: I hope my personal coach will uh Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: have a lo uh look at it. Gerald Gordon: Okay, great. Um well, I Jacob Rodriguez: We're Gerald Gordon: think Jacob Rodriguez: done, Gerald Gordon: we're Jacob Rodriguez: I think. Gerald Gordon: qui quite done. Um for now we will have the lunch break. Steve Lugo: How nice. Gerald Gordon: Um I'm don't know how long the break will be, but we'll find Jacob Rodriguez: Terry Cockerham Gerald Gordon: out. Jacob Rodriguez: neither. Gerald Gordon: Um then we will have thirty minutes of time to perform our individual work, uh and I'm sure your personal coaches will uh assist you with it. Um I will put the minutes I just made in the project documents folder. If you want to look at it um well, just do. Um the Interface Designer, um I would like to the next meeting I would like to receive the uh components concept. Uh Roo, um from you I would Jacob Rodriguez: Interface Gerald Gordon: like to Jacob Rodriguez: industrial. Gerald Gordon: see Uh I'm sorry, yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: I'm sorry. User Steve Lugo: Well, Gerald Gordon: Interface Steve Lugo: we understand. Gerald Gordon: Designer, uh Roo, I would like to see the user interface c uh concept. And um Jacob Rodriguez: Uh the only problem is it that it depends on the divisions the decis uh decisions Sebastian makes. Steve Lugo: Well Jacob Rodriguez: About the voice Gerald Gordon: Well, Jacob Rodriguez: recognition. Gerald Gordon: i it should Jacob Rodriguez: Well Gerald Gordon: be easy, that's w w what we concluded. It should Steve Lugo: Mm yes. Gerald Gordon: be an easy interface with not so much buttons. Jacob Rodriguez: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: S just a a p a p a volume and a programme one. And um um yeah, some some fancy lights. I think that's what we decided. Steve Lugo: So we drop the voice recognition? Gerald Gordon: No Steve Lugo: Or Gerald Gordon: no no, Steve Lugo: Oh. Gerald Gordon: we didn't but it shouldn't be integrated yeah, it's of course it's user interface, but um i I was talking about really the Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: design of the Steve Lugo: Well um do we really have to decide now or Gerald Gordon: No. Steve Lugo: can we decide next meeting? Gerald Gordon: We can decide the next meeting. Steve Lugo: Okay. Gerald Gordon: Yep. Steve Lugo: Because I'll have some updated info on that uh Gerald Gordon: Yeah. I guess all of you have i updated info. I'm sure Jacob Rodriguez: Yep. Gerald Gordon: Terry Cockerham will receive uh t uh you will do some trend watching. And I'm sure Terry Cockerham: Hmm. Gerald Gordon: the market will um uh uh will change, Jacob Rodriguez: Adapt. Steve Lugo: Adapt. Terry Cockerham: Left. Gerald Gordon: adapt Terry Cockerham: Hmm. Gerald Gordon: and um so we will see that. Um yeah, that's Jacob Rodriguez: That's Gerald Gordon: it for Jacob Rodriguez: it. Gerald Gordon: now. Jacob Rodriguez: 'Kay. Gerald Gordon: Any other questions or can we have the lunch? Steve Lugo: We can have the lunch. Terry Cockerham: Yeah. Gerald Gordon: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez: I'll Gerald Gordon: okay. Jacob Rodriguez: take the lunch. Gerald Gordon: Good.	There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 40. Jacob Rodriguez preferred an easy-to-use remote to a multi-function one. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The use of infrared, energy-efficient power source and cheap circuit was suggested. The remote could light up via LED's placed inside. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being easy to lose. It also transpires that customers like innovative technology like speech recognition. The design can focus on such customer needs, like finding a mechanism to locate a lost remote. The functions of the remote will include a back button to switch between two channels, volume, program selection, and speech recognition, with a focus on simplicity of design.	3	amisum	train
John Ford: That's the same as uh on the top of it uh with the the round uh Quincy Schradle: Like John Ford: button. Quincy Schradle: this one. John Ford: But uh we don't uh we don't uh we do think it's um well Quincy Schradle: It's John Ford: what Quincy Schradle: important. John Ford: if with ease of use, w which prefers the which the the customer of Quincy Schradle: Uh John Ford: the Quincy Schradle: I John Ford: user Quincy Schradle: think John Ford: prefers. Quincy Schradle: th this is device which which has a learning curve. Um novice users u use this device as uh normal users use uh a c a remote control. And after a while they start to develop uh some skills in the the voice recognition functions, and then they will not use this dial as often. But other Antonio Woodard: Okay. Quincy Schradle: users who are new to this device need something like that. They n they need understand what uh channels and uh change the volume, so it's easier for them Antonio Woodard: Could could I see the scroll bar as as as a sort of shortcut? Quincy Schradle: Yeah, maybe Antonio Woodard: A Quincy Schradle: so. Antonio Woodard: a and Quincy Schradle: Yes, Antonio Woodard: the voice Quincy Schradle: it's Antonio Woodard: recognition as well, th maybe you could uh Quincy Schradle: Well, Antonio Woodard: could Quincy Schradle: it's Antonio Woodard: uh Quincy Schradle: it's it's another approach, it's more that our um. There are there are many ways of doing uh things uh on such a device. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: It's Antonio Woodard: Okay. Quincy Schradle: it's quite easy. Antonio Woodard: Okay, good. And and the case is is rubber? Quincy Schradle: Yes, rubber? Antonio Woodard: And the buttons? John Ford: Plastic Quincy Schradle: There are John Ford: or rubber. Quincy Schradle: plastic John Ford: Well, Quincy Schradle: or rubber. John Ford: yeah. Antonio Woodard: Okay, and uh the colouring? Quincy Schradle: Uh yellow with uh Antonio Woodard: with with grey or black. Quincy Schradle: grey or black or something like that. Whatever cost uh cost uh the least. Antonio Woodard: Okay, we'll we'll come to that later. Um okay. Anything else to add or Quincy Schradle: No. Uh maybe we should uh think about these buttons. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Michael Ladd: Well, you Quincy Schradle: But Michael Ladd: could use two of them to um channels on the channel button, 'cause Quincy Schradle: Yes, Michael Ladd: you have Quincy Schradle: but Michael Ladd: to Quincy Schradle: it but these Michael Ladd: assign Quincy Schradle: are tasks Michael Ladd: two channel Quincy Schradle: that are only Michael Ladd: new channels. Quincy Schradle: executed once, I think. Antonio Woodard: M uh Quincy Schradle: Or Antonio Woodard: yeah. Quincy Schradle: not? Antonio Woodard: M m but maybe you Michael Ladd: You Antonio Woodard: want a button to uh for example the voice recognition, or Quincy Schradle: Well Antonio Woodard: train Quincy Schradle: okay. Antonio Woodard: the voice. Quincy Schradle: Okay, yeah, that's right. Or something John Ford: And Quincy Schradle: li John Ford: a button Quincy Schradle: like that. John Ford: for disabling the voice recognition. Antonio Woodard: Yeah al although by pressing the button for I n don't know two, three seconds, you could also say it you'd disable it Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: with a little beep and John Ford: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: and but o okay, that that's not really really important. John Ford: That's the basic idea, yeah. Antonio Woodard: The basic okay. John Ford: Of our prototype. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Um you thought of some evaluation crit criteria? Michael Ladd: Yes. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Michael Ladd: Uh my name is not name but Antonio Woodard: You are nameless. Michael Ladd: Uh well, I used the the uh documents. And these uh were the most important criteria. It should be. yeah, Quincy Schradle: Is it spongy? Michael Ladd: that's uh how the fashion guys uh state it. Fancy look and feel. So John Ford: So just walk through it step by step. mean, is it fancy, everything I believe uh Michael Ladd: Uh well John Ford: I Michael Ladd: appar John Ford: believe it's fancy. Quincy Schradle: I believe it's fancy too. Michael Ladd: Yeah, Antonio Woodard: No. John Ford: Oh, Michael Ladd: So John Ford: sorry. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: Okay, so this these are the cr uh the criteria. Michael Ladd: Yeah, I think these are the most important Antonio Woodard: Okay, Michael Ladd: criteria. Antonio Woodard: well Michael Ladd: So uh that's about Antonio Woodard: the Michael Ladd: it. Antonio Woodard: then we'll switch to my presentation. Um Antonio Woodard: The production costs. The costs are not under Can I Antonio Woodard: Um this is the John Ford: Twenty two. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, it's it's John Ford: Yikes. Antonio Woodard: w way above um uh above the the the twelve Euro fifty. And what makes it very expensive is uh for example the solar cell. Quincy Schradle: Well it's Antonio Woodard: So Quincy Schradle: very expensive. Antonio Woodard: I guess we should skip that, because it's not that important. Quincy Schradle: Okay. John Ford: Why does the price and and the s oh, one uh exa Antonio Woodard: Yeah, the John Ford: yeah. Antonio Woodard: the price, the the number John Ford: The number Antonio Woodard: of items John Ford: of uh Antonio Woodard: and John Ford: yeah. Antonio Woodard: the the sum. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: Um well, this is what I would call our luxury model. Um John Ford: And and Antonio Woodard: if you John Ford: does Antonio Woodard: would John Ford: it Antonio Woodard: if you look at the uh w w w what we could do to make it more um to make it just between the twelve Euro fifty, um then I did the following changes. Twelve Euro forty cents I came up with by leaving out the solar cells, Quincy Schradle: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: um by not using the voice recognition feature, Quincy Schradle: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: because it's uh it's a four Euro uh addition to the price. Um Yeah, I believe Uh, push-button, well It makes it the thirteen yeah. Push-buttons are buttons are are not the most expensive, but do add extra cost. Quincy Schradle: Hmm. Antonio Woodard: So um yeah, th this design is not um within our price model. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: Um Quincy Schradle: But I'm afraid it's not complete. Because we use spec uh specic uh special materials, the last item. And you have not added one item there. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So it's c way too expensive. Antonio Woodard: It's still too expensive, yeah. John Ford: But Antonio Woodard: Um John Ford: that's that's only for the buttons. So Antonio Woodard: I I guess John Ford: the button Antonio Woodard: if we John Ford: we Antonio Woodard: leave John Ford: can use Antonio Woodard: the John Ford: plastic. Antonio Woodard: if we leave this one out, um oh. And uh maybe not John Ford: And Antonio Woodard: use John Ford: the pla Antonio Woodard: the John Ford: uh Antonio Woodard: special form. John Ford: And a plastic b just plastic buttons, Quincy Schradle: But John Ford: a plas Quincy Schradle: it John Ford: uh instead of rubber. Antonio Woodard: It becomes a very dull remote Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: control, I know. But it's the board decision. Um And um yeah. Quincy Schradle: Well, b basically it when when this is our only option, we should even consider changing the casing, because I think there's very little added value in Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: uh an enhanced case with these dull functions. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, I Quincy Schradle: So Antonio Woodard: know. Maybe we should look at an uh focus on another uh Quincy Schradle: Type of m maybe Antonio Woodard: Yeah, Quincy Schradle: another Antonio Woodard: m Quincy Schradle: market Antonio Woodard: uh maybe Quincy Schradle: segment. Antonio Woodard: not not all that fancy, but just way way more easy uh uh Quincy Schradle: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: um basic Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: and uh m maximise the profits and um Quincy Schradle: That's maybe that's better. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: Maybe we could uh we should go for straight and simple, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: but that's not what uh has been asked. Antonio Woodard: I know, I know. Quincy Schradle: So we should kick the board's uh Well Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Although I think we yeah, but we could still make uh a remote control that ap uh um applies um more to young people uh by giving it another colour already. Quincy Schradle: Hmm. Antonio Woodard: Um so it is possible to make uh uh a device that attracts a little bit more to young people. Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: Um but uh I agree it's it's not a fancy high-tech uh device. Definitely not, no. It's not that innovative. Or however you s pronounce that. Um John Ford: Yeah, too bad. Antonio Woodard: so, okay. Um Oh, this is the wrong one. So uh that means redesign. We do not have the time o uh now to to redesign the product. John Ford: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: Um but we can evaluate the process and um uh uh the satisfaction on how things went. Um I'm not sure if we need to evaluate uh the device first. I guess Michael Ladd: Um well, since we're not gonna manufacture it anyway Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Quincy Schradle: Well, maybe it's good to do it anyway, because if we Antonio Woodard: We Quincy Schradle: evaluate Antonio Woodard: l we can learn. Quincy Schradle: it, we we can also determine if our Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: objectives are good. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So Antonio Woodard: I agree. Well Quincy Schradle: Is it fancy? Antonio Woodard: I d it Michael Ladd: Uh Antonio Woodard: is it is Michael Ladd: Yay. Is it? Is it fancy? Antonio Woodard: Yeah, John Ford: Um Antonio Woodard: I think John Ford: the yellow Antonio Woodard: so. John Ford: rubber, Quincy Schradle: I think so. John Ford: I think so. Antonio Woodard: You like the rubber, uh Roo. John Ford: I'm into it. Michael Ladd: So uh one? Quincy Schradle: But Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: it's not that fancy. Antonio Woodard: No, Quincy Schradle: I Antonio Woodard: I'll Quincy Schradle: mean Antonio Woodard: I'll I'll give it a two. Quincy Schradle: I think uh I think it would have been more fancy if we used the titanium housing the casing. It would be Antonio Woodard: You Quincy Schradle: even Antonio Woodard: like Quincy Schradle: more Antonio Woodard: tita Quincy Schradle: oh, you really like titanium. I'm I'm into it. Antonio Woodard: That's a flavour as well. Quincy Schradle: It has flavour. Yes, that's right. You should taste it. Antonio Woodard: Right. Um Michael Ladd: Is it uh Antonio Woodard: Yeah, I know, but but it but that's fancy in the way um I mean fancy has has a lot of Quincy Schradle: It has to do with fashion, I guess. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So do John Ford: It's trendy Michael Ladd: And John Ford: trendy, Michael Ladd: w John Ford: fun Michael Ladd: yeah, John Ford: yeah. Michael Ladd: w what they want wanted was uh colours and soft materials. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Michael Ladd: in that way Antonio Woodard: It applies. It Michael Ladd: It Antonio Woodard: yeah. Michael Ladd: it's fancy. John Ford: Well, just Quincy Schradle: Okay. John Ford: give it a two. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: Yes. I John Ford: It's Quincy Schradle: think John Ford: not the Quincy Schradle: I John Ford: ultimate Quincy Schradle: th I think John Ford: uh fancy Quincy Schradle: it would have John Ford: two, Quincy Schradle: been John Ford: but Quincy Schradle: I would have think uh it could have been more fancy by using the double-curved case. It would have been even more fancy, but we decided not to, because if we use a double-curved John Ford: Yeah, but that's sti that's Quincy Schradle: case, John Ford: uh Quincy Schradle: we could not use solar. So John Ford: Looking at the user uh needs, we only uh don't we don't have the double-curved case. We w we do have uh the rubber, we do have the colours. That's two out of three. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: So I believe uh we are close uh to Antonio Woodard: Yeah, John Ford: two. Antonio Woodard: I I agree. Quincy Schradle: Yes, I agree too. It's okay. We did yes, we did good. Michael Ladd: Okay, and uh was it innovative? Antonio Woodard: Well, with the voice recognition feature and uh John Ford: But that's not in it. Michael Ladd: Yep. John Ford: Ov or can we Antonio Woodard: No, Quincy Schradle: Well, Antonio Woodard: we Quincy Schradle: let's Antonio Woodard: are Quincy Schradle: let's Antonio Woodard: evaluating Quincy Schradle: this Antonio Woodard: this Quincy Schradle: product. Antonio Woodard: this uh design John Ford: Okay. Antonio Woodard: now. Quincy Schradle: So Antonio Woodard: This Quincy Schradle: I Antonio Woodard: prototype. Quincy Schradle: I I think it is. I think it's innovative. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. John Ford: And the scroll uh wheel. The solar not many remotes have the solar, I think. Quincy Schradle: No. It could have been a little bit more innovative u by using the kinetic uh energy source, Michael Ladd: Yeah, Quincy Schradle: but Michael Ladd: and Quincy Schradle: it's Michael Ladd: uh Quincy Schradle: it's Antonio Woodard: That Quincy Schradle: way Antonio Woodard: would Quincy Schradle: too Antonio Woodard: have been a thrill. Quincy Schradle: yes, but Michael Ladd: So uh also a Quincy Schradle: I Michael Ladd: uh Quincy Schradle: think Michael Ladd: two? Quincy Schradle: uh Antonio Woodard: Yep. Quincy Schradle: it's a two. Michael Ladd: Is it easy to use? Antonio Woodard: I'm John Ford: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: not sure. I'm not sure. John Ford: Well yeah, the voice recognition of course is hard to learn, I think. Well, hard it's not for the for the e for the elderly. Quincy Schradle: Well, John Ford: They won't use it. Quincy Schradle: but there are two parts in this remote control. What you see here is is the basic part. Everybody can use it, so that's easy to use. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: That's for a novice user. When you have a more advanced, elaborate user, well, such a user really would like to explore all these additional functions. So in that in that way it is advanced, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: and I think it's easy to use for for both uh types of users. So John Ford: I think Quincy Schradle: uh It's maybe it's not very uh John Ford: I Quincy Schradle: easy John Ford: think a three. Quincy Schradle: for John Ford: Wouldn't give it more. Antonio Woodard: Uh I'm doubting doubting as well. Um Michael Ladd: Well the p the most important function is easy to use. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Michael Ladd: The the zapping, channel switching, volume. But the more advanced functions are probably a bit harder. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Uh two or three? Three? Wha wh what would be your guess? I mean Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: ease of use um does not only apply to the most basic functions. It's the uh it's it's overall. Is the device easy to use? Quincy Schradle: Yeah, that's right. You're right in that, but I I guess uh an advanced user will will find the voice recognition function easy to use, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: because he is already he or she is already an advanced user. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So After Antonio Woodard: Um Quincy Schradle: all, I think personally I would give a two. But Antonio Woodard: Okay. Uh Roo, a three? John Ford: Yep. Antonio Woodard: Ruud? Michael Ladd: Good question. Uh I'll go uh for the two. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Quincy Schradle: So, it's two, two and three. Two threes. So that's Antonio Woodard: So I could Quincy Schradle: ten. Antonio Woodard: make it John Ford: If Antonio Woodard: e easy? John Ford: you make it a four Quincy Schradle: So that's John Ford: it will be three Quincy Schradle: w John Ford: in general. Quincy Schradle: No, two and a half. John Ford: If he makes it a four. Quincy Schradle: Six John Ford: Not a three. Quincy Schradle: and four. Six and four is ten. Divided by four is two and a half. So John Ford: Darn. Nee. Michael Ladd: Hmm? Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: Roo. Michael Ladd: Huh? John Ford: A seven, a three No. Michael Ladd: Yeah. John Ford: A four Michael Ladd: I John Ford: and Michael Ladd: yeah. John Ford: a three together. Quincy Schradle: Four? John Ford: Yeah, you Michael Ladd: Yeah, John Ford: have a two, Michael Ladd: two, John Ford: he Michael Ladd: two, John Ford: has Quincy Schradle: Two? John Ford: a two. Michael Ladd: three John Ford: Three? And Antonio Woodard: No, John Ford: a three? Michael Ladd: No. John Ford: Nee. I know. Antonio Woodard: Okay, but if I would say a three, then it's six, and four is ten. Quincy Schradle: Divided by four. Antonio Woodard: Divided by four is two point John Ford: Yes. Antonio Woodard: five. John Ford: So if you want to have the conclusion as a three three. Then you would make a four. If you fill out a four Quincy Schradle: That's Antonio Woodard: But Quincy Schradle: not Antonio Woodard: I'm Quincy Schradle: even Antonio Woodard: filling in a three. Does it will so it will be a two point five. Quincy Schradle: But that's not possible to fill in, Antonio Woodard: Yes, Quincy Schradle: so Antonio Woodard: it Quincy Schradle: we have Antonio Woodard: is. Quincy Schradle: to round it. Antonio Woodard: I have a veto. Exactly. It's not about the content, it's about okay, um Michael Ladd: Is Antonio Woodard: is Michael Ladd: it Antonio Woodard: it Michael Ladd: easy Antonio Woodard: easy Michael Ladd: to Antonio Woodard: to Michael Ladd: find? Antonio Woodard: f Yeah, definitely. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: Yeah, we haven't re uh re uh really worked it out, but you Quincy Schradle: It John Ford: c you Quincy Schradle: it most John Ford: can Quincy Schradle: definitely John Ford: you Quincy Schradle: is John Ford: can Quincy Schradle: it's John Ford: just Quincy Schradle: very John Ford: say find Quincy Schradle: easy. John Ford: and he repeats find. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, or beeps or yeah. John Ford: Yeah, but Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: that's the that's the the Quincy Schradle: Maybe John Ford: basic idea Quincy Schradle: Uh John Ford: of the the Quincy Schradle: I John Ford: speaker Quincy Schradle: I think John Ford: uh Quincy Schradle: I Antonio Woodard: I'm Quincy Schradle: think Antonio Woodard: here, I'm here. Quincy Schradle: something like that. Maybe you have to uh programme it once, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: so to that l respond to uh a certain word or a Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: certain sentence, something John Ford: But even Quincy Schradle: like John Ford: without Quincy Schradle: where John Ford: it Quincy Schradle: are you, and then it will sing I'm here. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So something like that. So Antonio Woodard: Well, I Quincy Schradle: I, th Antonio Woodard: uh we should not uh stay too long on this subject uh because of the time, but John Ford: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: I personally give it a one. Um Sebastian? Quincy Schradle: Yeah, Michael Ladd too. John Ford: Michael Ladd too. Michael Ladd: Yeah, I agree. Antonio Woodard: Right, well. The feel of the remote control is spongy. Well, uh it can't be more spongy. So Quincy Schradle: Well, it can be. There are cases um in which the outside casing is um can be uh how d how do you prono is John Ford: Was Quincy Schradle: is John Ford: it one of our options? Quincy Schradle: moldable. No, it's not Michael Ladd: No. Quincy Schradle: one of our option, Michael Ladd: Uh Antonio Woodard: No Michael Ladd: this Antonio Woodard: okay, Quincy Schradle: but John Ford: So, Antonio Woodard: but John Ford: in Michael Ladd: this John Ford: the Antonio Woodard: but Quincy Schradle: when Michael Ladd: was John Ford: in Quincy Schradle: you look Michael Ladd: a most Quincy Schradle: in the market, Michael Ladd: spongy option. Quincy Schradle: when Antonio Woodard: for the Quincy Schradle: you Antonio Woodard: options Quincy Schradle: look Antonio Woodard: given, it's the most Quincy Schradle: Uh Antonio Woodard: spongy Quincy Schradle: yes, Antonio Woodard: one. Quincy Schradle: but John Ford: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: that's not that's not uh what they are talking about, I think. Because we compare all these uh characteristics characteristics with uh market uh with Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: with the real market. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: there are uh remote controls out there which are a lot more spongy. They're Antonio Woodard: They're Quincy Schradle: out Antonio Woodard: out Quincy Schradle: there. John Ford: But Antonio Woodard: there. John Ford: I think in this case in this case we've done the best we could. Quincy Schradle: Yes, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: but it's not good enough, so it's a two. Antonio Woodard: I'll give it a one. John Ford: I wan I'll take one. Quincy Schradle: You take one? What do you give it? Michael Ladd: Well yeah, it depends, 'cause it's the most spongy we could Antonio Woodard: Yeah, I know, but you have Michael Ladd: but Antonio Woodard: to name a fig uh a Michael Ladd: yeah. Antonio Woodard: number. Because we need to go on in for the time. Michael Ladd: Well, if I give it a one John Ford: It will be a Michael Ladd: there'll John Ford: one. Michael Ladd: be one hell of a calculation. So I'll just give it a two and make this a one point five. Quincy Schradle: No no no. Uh I'll I'll change it, I'll make it m my my mark will be a four. Antonio Woodard: You are okay. The remote control offers enough features. Well, Ruud, what what do you think about it? Michael Ladd: Well, the basic layout doesn't offem offer much, but the voice recognition could add a lot. So Quincy Schradle: Basically Michael Ladd: Yeah, depends. Quincy Schradle: it's it's completely programmable. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: You can add very m much functionality by uh using the voice recognition mode. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, I Quincy Schradle: So Antonio Woodard: know. Quincy Schradle: it's quite advanced. Antonio Woodard: What what we didn't talk John Ford: Yeah, Antonio Woodard: about John Ford: but Antonio Woodard: is John Ford: it Antonio Woodard: um John Ford: ha Antonio Woodard: uh John Ford: doesn't has the digits. I believe it's If you uh ask yourself it offers enough features, I don't I don't think it is it has all the features um a normal remote has. Antonio Woodard: I think it has. Michael Ladd: Uh depends on what you Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Michael Ladd: uh implement Antonio Woodard: Bec Michael Ladd: in the speech Antonio Woodard: because Michael Ladd: feat Antonio Woodard: you can um we didn't talk about it, but you do have uh remote controls that are able to adapt another signal. Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: So, you place a a regular uh remote control in front of the other one, hit the one or the two or the three, whatever, and it r records the uh the um the Quincy Schradle: Has Antonio Woodard: the Quincy Schradle: uh the signals Michael Ladd: Signal. Quincy Schradle: sent John Ford: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: to Antonio Woodard: signals. Quincy Schradle: it. Antonio Woodard: So you could uh uh uh enter any comment you like, as long it's able to as long as our device is able to reproduce the infrared signal. So I think th this uh this is uh a a remote control with a very high level of features. Quincy Schradle: Absolutely. Antonio Woodard: Although there are i a few buttons, but Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: the inside is is quite Quincy Schradle: But Antonio Woodard: uh Quincy Schradle: that that's its Antonio Woodard: advanced. Quincy Schradle: power, I guess, because uh a regular programmable uh remote control contains, well, uh really a lot of buttons. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: At at least uh forty buttons. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So it's it's quite s complicated to get uh to get used to. And this is quite s simple. You can Antonio Woodard: Yep. Quincy Schradle: use your voice to to programme it. It's Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Okay, um let's give it a number. I'll give it uh a one. For for the for this t uh type of market, I think it's a one. John Ford: I'll give a two. Quincy Schradle: Yeah, I'll give it a one. Michael Ladd: Um I think think a one, 'cause v with a voice recognition you could add anything you want, so that's like um Quincy Schradle: Yes. I I've I think we've uh succe succeed in in developing a product that's actually quite good, but not for this kind of market, and not for this kind of price. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. So high quality, low Quincy Schradle: Hmm. Antonio Woodard: acceptance. The product is is is uh b high qua uh has a high quality and and is uh advanced. Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: But whether or not our clients are are um willing to pay twenty five Euros Quincy Schradle: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: for this kind of device is doub is well, is not sure. Quincy Schradle: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: D do you agree? Quincy Schradle: Yes, I agree. Michael Ladd: Maybe Quincy Schradle: I Michael Ladd: even because it doesn't look advanced. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: Yeah, okay. Antonio Woodard: Maybe Quincy Schradle: But Antonio Woodard: we should have a radar uh function. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: But we could couldn't uh what what's the selling price? Fifty? Antonio Woodard: Twenty John Ford: Uh Antonio Woodard: five Euros. John Ford: twenty five. And costs were twelve fifty. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. John Ford: But even now, if only our production costs w uh were exceeded the double, Think. Production cost was were t uh was twenty two? Antonio Woodard: Mm-hmm. John Ford: So uh selling price uh would be uh Quincy Schradle: M about fifty Euros. John Ford: yeah. Quincy Schradle: That's quite ex John Ford: That's Quincy Schradle: well, John Ford: price, Quincy Schradle: it's John Ford: but Quincy Schradle: not John Ford: w w Quincy Schradle: it's not very expensive for a remote control that John Ford: No. Quincy Schradle: that has this functionality. John Ford: An original remote control of any T_V_ kind, uh a Phillips remote control, Quincy Schradle: Yes, John Ford: y you Quincy Schradle: it's John Ford: pay uh Quincy Schradle: more than fifty Euros. It's quite expensive, John Ford: Yeah, I kn Quincy Schradle: yes. John Ford: I know uh from a few years ago, it it Antonio Woodard: Bu John Ford: it Antonio Woodard: but John Ford: costed hundred Antonio Woodard: well John Ford: Gilders. Antonio Woodard: yeah, I know, but you're paying for th for the brand, because there are uh remote controls which control your stereo, television, D_V_D_, C_D_ Quincy Schradle: Yes. Antonio Woodard: player, Quincy Schradle: Yes, Antonio Woodard: for Quincy Schradle: but you can Antonio Woodard: under Quincy Schradle: you Antonio Woodard: twenty Quincy Schradle: c Antonio Woodard: five Euros. Quincy Schradle: Yes, but you can learn this thing, all these functions. And it's Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: easier to use because those uh remote controls don't offer voice recognition and this one does. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So I think it's worth its price. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Um you had an overall rating. Um Michael Ladd: Yeah, but uh Antonio Woodard: That's counting. Michael Ladd: with these ratings uh Quincy Schradle: Well, it's it's about Michael Ladd: should be about Quincy Schradle: one John Ford: Four Quincy Schradle: point Michael Ladd: one point John Ford: six Quincy Schradle: five. John Ford: seven Michael Ladd: s seven, John Ford: eight. Quincy Schradle: Something like Michael Ladd: yeah. Quincy Schradle: that. Antonio Woodard: Okay. John Ford: Nine divided by six. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Um we'll go further on with the the rest of the evaluation. Antonio Woodard: About the project itself, not about the product. Um What did you think about uh the process, the project process? Ruud? Antonio Woodard: Try Quincy Schradle: Well Antonio Woodard: to translate that. John Ford: Hmm. Antonio Woodard: Any any other Uh, Quincy Schradle: Well, John Ford: Yeah, Antonio Woodard: Roo? John Ford: I think Quincy Schradle: I think Michael Ladd: Ye John Ford: uh Antonio Woodard: Roo. John Ford: The process was good. But w um we weren't aware of the prices of the costs. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. John Ford: And and that was the the big deal. Quincy Schradle: Mm. John Ford: I if we knew that before, Quincy Schradle: Actually, John Ford: we c we Quincy Schradle: we had John Ford: could have made the the choice Antonio Woodard: Better John Ford: between Antonio Woodard: decision. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: what yeah. Quincy Schradle: We had we had too little information actually. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: So And uh um the the the well, looking at room for creativity, there was w way too the the choice Antonio Woodard: Less. Quincy Schradle: of components was way too narrow. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: there was not really a process of uh Antonio Woodard: So we could we we could be we could've been creative. But um Quincy Schradle: Well Antonio Woodard: it was tempered by the choice of components and the Quincy Schradle: Yes. Michael Ladd: The prices. Antonio Woodard: the price. Quincy Schradle: Well, in the first meeting we we already were very creative. We we Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: thought of possibilities who are not possible uh with the the current uh offer of uh manufacturing components. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: We're tempered by that, yes. Antonio Woodard: Okay, Roo? Any other thoughts on that? John Ford: No, no. Antonio Woodard: Ruud? Michael Ladd: I agree. Antonio Woodard: You agree, okay. Uh leadership. John Ford: Fantastic. Antonio Woodard: Okay, Roo's on for his promotion. Quincy Schradle: Yeah, okay. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Quincy Schradle: I think we're a good team. Antonio Woodard: I think so too, it's it's it's uh of course a laboratory environment. I missed it um to be able to contact you in between Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: and uh say uh, hey Roo uh. Um Quincy Schradle: Well, I tried once, but that was not allowed. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. So um Yeah, but but si uh w w w when taken in account the the situation, uh I think we performed pretty well. Quincy Schradle: I think so too. John Ford: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Um the means, the SMARTboard, the digital pen. Did you like Quincy Schradle: Uh. Antonio Woodard: 'em? Quincy Schradle: The digital pen was okay, but SMARTboard was really bad. John Ford: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: It Antonio Woodard: Because Quincy Schradle: it's Antonio Woodard: of the response or Quincy Schradle: The response John Ford: Response Quincy Schradle: is John Ford: and Quincy Schradle: very slow and the possibilities are very limited. It's not accurate. Antonio Woodard: Okay. John Ford: Uh it it Antonio Woodard: Uh John Ford: has yeah. Yeah, it's not accurate. The p the pointing of the pen is not um the place where it it writes its um uh where it uh Michael Ladd: Draws. John Ford: Yeah, where it draws. It's uh the drawing on on the b on the board is r right from the pen. Antonio Woodard: Okay, so it John Ford: So Antonio Woodard: it John Ford: uh Antonio Woodard: had to be um John Ford: You to take Antonio Woodard: better John Ford: in account Antonio Woodard: aligned, John Ford: that Antonio Woodard: or John Ford: your Antonio Woodard: what's John Ford: you Antonio Woodard: the John Ford: m Antonio Woodard: word? Uh John Ford: yeah uh Antonio Woodard: yeah. Quincy Schradle: Maybe it's it needs to be calibrateds. John Ford: It's too slow Antonio Woodard: It it was calibrated just before this meeting. Uh Quincy Schradle: It Antonio Woodard: the Quincy Schradle: is? Antonio Woodard: one before, the third meeting. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: So uh it's not the calibration, it's the thing itself, John Ford: Hmm. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: I think. Uh Ruud, w uh did you use the pen a lot? Or Michael Ladd: No. Antonio Woodard: not at all? Not Michael Ladd: Not Antonio Woodard: at all. Michael Ladd: really. Antonio Woodard: Okay. I thought it was quite a handy Quincy Schradle: I Antonio Woodard: uh Quincy Schradle: I think Antonio Woodard: thing, Quincy Schradle: so too. Antonio Woodard: although I would like to see um O_C_R_. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: Yep. Quincy Schradle: Yes. John Ford: If it has O_C_R_, uh I think uh I would use, but uh I I just uh took notes Antonio Woodard: Yeah. John Ford: for myself and and and that's it. It w it w yeah. It was necessary for Michael Ladd to uh Antonio Woodard: To digitise them. John Ford: Yeah, type it. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: Mm-hmm. John Ford: I type faster than I write. So Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: But I think it's a great solution for uh for uh a known problem, uh writing down some notes, some some inf uh information, and then um forgetting your notebook somewhere Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: and losing all that information. Because you have everything in one place and it's quite easy quite easy it's it's possible to make this information digital and share it with others in Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: a quite easy way. I think it's a good product. I only think it's th the the shape of the pen is too big. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: It's not quite uh ergonomic. John Ford: Economic. Quincy Schradle: Eco ergonomic. Antonio Woodard: I know. Yeah. Okay. Um What w Uh Ruud, what did you think about the SMARTboards? Michael Ladd: Oh, I only use it to draw a rabbit, Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Michael Ladd: so Antonio Woodard: Okay, you can't really Michael Ladd: can't say Antonio Woodard: decide. Michael Ladd: much about it. Antonio Woodard: No. I missed a feature to easily select uh a slide and uh distribute it to the laptops. I think that would be very easy if you could say okay, I want to use this for my own work or my own presentation further on or Quincy Schradle: Yes. Michael Ladd: No, or the other John Ford: Yeah. Michael Ladd: way around. Antonio Woodard: Or the other way around, that you Quincy Schradle: Yes, Antonio Woodard: could Quincy Schradle: yes. Antonio Woodard: show but m Quincy Schradle: That's John Ford: But Quincy Schradle: quite what Michael Ladd: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: PowerPoint John Ford: y you Quincy Schradle: does. John Ford: can if Antonio Woodard: I John Ford: you Antonio Woodard: know. John Ford: save this image, you can open it in your shared work folder. Antonio Woodard: I know, but John Ford: So it's almost yeah. Antonio Woodard: I know, but we couldn't use that feature, so I missed it. John Ford: Yep. Antonio Woodard: We weren't able to do that. At least the um I wasn't explained how to John Ford: Mm-hmm. Antonio Woodard: do such John Ford: A Antonio Woodard: a th John Ford: and the function of of filling an an uh Quincy Schradle: An object, John Ford: an oval or Quincy Schradle: yes. John Ford: an an object. Quincy Schradle: Yes. The drawing John Ford: I Quincy Schradle: cap John Ford: it's not Quincy Schradle: capabilities John Ford: possible Quincy Schradle: are very limited. John Ford: yeah. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Quincy Schradle: And and uh w you were when you're using uh Windows, you're used to a certain interface and certain buttons, uh which you can use for drawing. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: And a lot of these buttons don't appear here. So John Ford: Oh Quincy Schradle: it's John Ford: it looks Antonio Woodard: Okay, John Ford: like Antonio Woodard: so John Ford: paint Antonio Woodard: y it it's John Ford: actually. Antonio Woodard: not even as advanced as paint. Quincy Schradle: Not not uh n not way. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: It's quite uh limited. Antonio Woodard: Okay. Uh no. Yeah, the project is evaluated. Um but, well, we need to redesign uh Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: the product. Quincy Schradle: Oh, very good, celebration. Antonio Woodard: Celebrate. Quincy Schradle: Pop John Ford: Great. Quincy Schradle: uh pop up the champagne. John Ford: It Antonio Woodard: Okay. John Ford: was a privilege working with you. Antonio Woodard: Um you're dismissed. No, I think we are uh ready. Quincy Schradle: Okay. John Ford: To private rooms? Quincy Schradle: I see some action over there. Antonio Woodard: Private room, Roo. That sounds quite scary. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: No, let's find uh the way to. Quincy Schradle: uh we're done, we're finished, I believe. So, are there any more cycles in this process? I think not. Antonio Woodard: I don't believe so. Well, maybe we'd get an email. Thank you for your Quincy Schradle: But um how much time did we get for this meeting? Antonio Woodard: Forty minutes. Quincy Schradle: And how much time is left? Antonio Woodard: A minute or or ten maybe. M Quincy Schradle: Ten minutes. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, ten or five. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Okay. Antonio Woodard: So, we can uh redesign our uh Uh I would like to Quincy Schradle: Well, I think we we we all know what the redesign should be. A simple, dull, uh one-coloured box. Michael Ladd: And no added value. Quincy Schradle: No, it's Michael Ladd: At Quincy Schradle: it's Michael Ladd: all. Quincy Schradle: just the Michael Ladd: So Quincy Schradle: same product that is already on the market. Antonio Woodard: Oh. John Ford: But you see the problem, y Antonio Woodard: Yeah. John Ford: you can't continue your uh your line. Well, it's fluffy alright. Spongy. Quincy Schradle: What is that? John Ford: A giraffe? Antonio Woodard: Yeah. Quincy Schradle: It's a giraffe eating a eating leaves from a tree. Antonio Woodard: It's blue Michael Ladd: In Antonio Woodard: tongue. Michael Ladd: interesting design. Antonio Woodard: Yeah. This is a new model. But Quincy Schradle: So you're actually promoting Bluetooth. Or blue tongue. Antonio Woodard: Blue tongue. Michael Ladd: Oh uh it it does uh have a natural uh feeling. So Antonio Woodard: It's spongy. Michael Ladd: Yeah. Antonio Woodard: That Quincy Schradle: Blue Antonio Woodard: is Quincy Schradle: tongue. Antonio Woodard: uh it's a new feature next to Bluetooth to um disable all Bluetooth devices. Quincy Schradle: Okay. Antonio Woodard: Um John Ford: Right. Quincy Schradle: Let's wrap it up. Antonio Woodard: Yeah, we're done here. Gentlemen, thank you for your cooperation. Quincy Schradle: Thank you Mister manager. Now, let's have uh a bottle of champagne. John Ford: Leave it here. Antonio Woodard: Yes. John Ford: That's alright.	John Ford and Quincy Schradle presented a prototype drawing of the remote control design. It can be used as a normal remote, but the speech recognition also provides a more advanced alternative interface. The speech recognition works as a finding mechanism as well. The rubber case is yellow with grey or black, with buttons either made of plastic or rubber. An extra button could activate/deactivate the voice recognition. The prototype proved extremely over budget. The main contributing factors were the solar cell and speech recognition. One way to compensate for the loss of features, but still attract their target group, would be to add more colour to the design. After the costing, the original prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad). The criteria used were fancifulness (2), technological innovation (2), ease of use (2.5), whether it is easy to find (1), sponginess (1.5), number of features (1). Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (choices too narrow), leadership and teamwork (happy with it, but they missed communicating in between meetings), and means (SMARTboard was not satisfactory, but the digital pens were alright, but not too useful). The delay in providing costs of components was criticised.	3	amisum	train
Ronald Moser: Okay, good morning. This is our first Charles Peterson: Good Ronald Moser: team. Charles Peterson: day. Norman Carlton: Morning. Wilbur Coe: Morning. Ronald Moser: I'll be your Project Manager for today, for this project. My name is Mark will be giving this presentation for you to kick the project off. That's my uh that's the agenda for today. Well, of course we're new to each other, so I'd like to get acquainted first. So let's do that first, I mean Let's start with you, can you introduce yourself? You're our Marketing Expert. Norman Carlton: Yes. Um my name is Dirk Meinfeld. Um I will be uh Pr Project Norman Carlton. And I will see what the user wants and uh what we can do uh with the new produ project product. Ronald Moser: Okay, excellent. And Charles Peterson: Nick Ronald Moser: User Charles Peterson: Broer, Ronald Moser: Interface Charles Peterson: User Ronald Moser: Yeah. Charles Peterson: Interface Designer I'm. going to uh look at the technical design from the uh user point of view. Ronald Moser: Excellent. Okay. Wilbur Coe: My name is Xavier Juergens, I'm the Designer, and there are three main questions that I have to find an answer to today. First one is uh what happens inside the apparatus, second Norman Carlton: Hmm. Wilbur Coe: is what is uh the apparatus made of, and the third is what should it look like. Ronald Moser: What should it look like? Okay. Norman Carlton: Hmm. Ronald Moser: Oh, let's kick it off. Oh, there we go. So, our new project is about we need design a remote control for television set, so, which has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I took this off our corporate website. It's I think well it sums up what we need to do. We're inspired by latest fashion, not only electronics, but also the latest trends in clothes and interior design. That's why our product will always fit in your home. So apparently we need to um be very at um very open to what's currently hot in the market. So that's what you need Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: to do to bring us the latest info and Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: what people want. So So we put the fashion in electronics. So that's what we need to go for. Anyway, we'll take this project in three steps, three pha uh three phase of design. First step will be the functional design. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: And that's basically what we're gonna do. Everybody has uh a piece of individual work and a meeting afterwards, so we can share information about So I'm gonna keep this short, since we had a technical problem. So skip through this. Uh. Okay. Every meeting we everybody can present their uh their views and everything, so to help with these, you have we have the SMARTboards here. We can use a regular PowerPoint presentation. I'm supposed to give you an introduction on this doodling board, so it's actually it's very easy. Like it says, very simple, you just take out the pen. Like you see here, I'll just take the take here. That's it, you just put it on the board. You see a pen here. You go here, just like using a pen. You can just draw whatever you want. It's like the eraser, can erase whatever you want. And so it will be easy just to illustrate your views, if you wanna change the format, you just either take out jus just like the pen, and whatever you want, your current colour, your line width, just to make the line bigger. So it should be really easy. Norman Carlton: Okay. Ronald Moser: This is to take the just take a new slide and back again. We're just gonna keep using this board all the time, so I think it will be it's very clear for everyone, I suppose. So I'll take this out. Okay. We'll use that later. Anyway. Yeah, just just just stuff that you wanna share, just put it in the in the project folder, like I put my presentation now. I'll put the the minutes of every meeting, I'll put them there too, so everybody can read up if they have to leave early or whatever. So next, been here. Well, gonna give the electronic white-board uh a shot. So basic idea is we have a blank sheet. Just try whatever you want, and like it says, draw your favourite animal. I think the creative genius should go first. Charles Peterson: The creative genius? Thank you very much. Ronald Moser: So, draw us your favourite animal. Charles Peterson: Well, I'm more into the technical aspects of drawing, so I'm not really good Ronald Moser: Draw Charles Peterson: at Ronald Moser: us Charles Peterson: drawing Ronald Moser: a technical Charles Peterson: animals, Ronald Moser: animal. Charles Peterson: but uh the animal which I Oh. Ronald Moser: Yeah, it's still erasing. Charles Peterson: Pen. Uh format. Else my animal will be like king-size. I pretty much like a dolphin, because of its uh its freedom basically. A head. actually worked with this. It's like uh it's a very Uh high-tech. Bit low-responsive though. Prefer pen and paper. Ronald Moser: So that's what we don't want. We want a high-responsive product. So It looks more Norman Carlton: Very Ronald Moser: like nuclear Norman Carlton: nice Ronald Moser: bomb. Norman Carlton: dolphin. Charles Peterson: It doesn't look like a nuclear bomb. This thing isn't doing what I'm What I want. So Ronald Moser: Let's go easy on it. Charles Peterson: Yeah, well it does look like a nuclear bomb. I'll just finish up real soon, because I'm Charles Peterson: So it doesn't really look like a dolphin, but then Ronald Moser: Anyway, Charles Peterson: again, Ronald Moser: it should Charles Peterson: this Ronald Moser: It Charles Peterson: is all new Ronald Moser: It's Charles Peterson: for Ronald Moser: supposed Charles Peterson: Norman Carlton. Ronald Moser: to be a dolphin, you like the freedom that Wilbur Coe: Uh-huh. Ronald Moser: it that it represents. Charles Peterson: Like the ocean, like swimming. Do that in my spare time, so that's basically an Ronald Moser: What do you like? Okay. Well, Charles Peterson: Now we can forget Ronald Moser: our Charles Peterson: this Ronald Moser: Marketing Charles Peterson: ever Ronald Moser: Expert. Charles Peterson: happened. Ronald Moser: Show us an animal. Norman Carlton: Um an animal. I like Ronald Moser: Pick Norman Carlton: the elephant. Ronald Moser: a pick a pick a clean sheet. Oh. Norman Carlton: What? Ronald Moser: Take a clean sheet Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: first. Norman Carlton: Um Ronald Moser: Just press next. That's Norman Carlton: Oh Ronald Moser: it. Norman Carlton: yeah. Oh, a blank. Okay next, Free, I like the elephant. It's big, it's strong, so uh uh Oh, it's a little bit Charles Peterson: It's not Norman Carlton: You Charles Peterson: really Norman Carlton: have to Charles Peterson: that Norman Carlton: hold Charles Peterson: responsive, Norman Carlton: it, right? Charles Peterson: no. Wilbur Coe: Mm. Norman Carlton: Hmm. It's a beautiful animal. Norman Carlton: Oh, you have to p press it pretty hard. With a smile on it, it's very important. Ronald Moser: It's a cute elephant. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Norman Carlton: And uh not to forget its tail. Oh. Ronald Moser: It's a nice beard. Norman Carlton: Yeah, it's okay. Charles Peterson: And you Norman Carlton: Yes. Charles Peterson: was making comments on my dolphin. Norman Carlton: I will beat the dolphin. No. Ronald Moser: Okay, so it's just a bee. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: So I suggest you make us the elephant in the market. The big and strong player in the market. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: This would be good. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: Okay, excellent. On to the next one. Wilbur Coe: Okay. Norman Carlton: Uh yeah. Wilbur Coe: Okay, you should press Norman Carlton: Yeah. Wilbur Coe: next. Ronald Moser: Press next. Yeah, it's up there. Wilbur Coe: Okay. Ronald Moser: That's it. Wilbur Coe: Okay, well the animal I'd like to draw is a tiger. Charles Peterson: You picked a hard one, didn't you? Norman Carlton: Experience with the tiger. What? They are Wilbur Coe: They are really bad, my drawing Norman Carlton: Okay Wilbur Coe: skills. Norman Carlton: uh-huh. Ronald Moser: Sure looks smooth. Norman Carlton: Oh. Wilbur Coe: I'm not sure how the legs should go, but Wilbur Coe: Uh these are stripes. Charles Peterson: Got it. Wilbur Coe: I've picked this animal because it's very fast. It is uh it knows exactly what it wants. Uh it hardly ever wastes any resources. Ronald Moser: What does it want? Wilbur Coe: Uh well, basically uh it hunts for prey, but it does it always in a very well-thought way. Uh it knows exactly what it wants. It never kills an animal uh just for the killing, so it's very efficient. And it tries to do everything as fast as possible. Ronald Moser: Okay. Wilbur Coe: And it always goes for uh security, in seeking uh uh Norman Carlton: Mm. Wilbur Coe: a hide spot and uh and doing everything, security, speed and efficiency is important. And I think uh those Ronald Moser: I agree. Wilbur Coe: things we can use. Norman Carlton: Okay. Ronald Moser: Yay, I'm supposed to draw the animal next. I introduce to the world the amazing Ronald Moser: ant. Norman Carlton: Uh hard worker. Ronald Moser: Great team-workers. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Wilbur Coe: Yeah. Ronald Moser: Do everything to Uh really small, but together they're really strong. So I'm Norman Carlton: Yeah, yeah. Wilbur Coe: Oh. Ronald Moser: gonna give it a smiley face. Not sure where the p. Just put 'em here. Whatever. Think it need shoes. So Ronald Moser: That's the coolest ant ever. Charles Peterson: You've done this before, haven't you? Ronald Moser: I love to draw ants. It's my hobby. Anyway Nah. Just I think it's very representative what we drew, I guess. Like you take Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: just take your freedom and use a a trendy interface that you design for us. Just Yeah. You're supposed to make i make it different from uh from what other people have, and just make it a little distinct. Anyway. another beep to stop the meeting. See. Warning. Finish meeting now. Uh put this down. Examples. Well I guess we have a little little time extra, but Just a little quick discussion to to open open our work. So what do you guys think about The first idea is just very short. I'll start with you. What are y What are your first ideas for the new product? Charles Peterson: Well, I basically Ronald Moser: What Charles Peterson: had a question. Do uh Are we going to introduce a multi remote control? Is it just the T_V_ or do we want to Norman Carlton: Uh Ronald Moser: The project Charles Peterson: in Ronald Moser: I got was just for a T_V_ remote control. Charles Peterson: Just for T_V_ Norman Carlton: Yeah. Charles Peterson: remote Ronald Moser: Yeah, Charles Peterson: control. Ronald Moser: I guess so. Charles Peterson: Okay. Well, I was Norman Carlton: But Charles Peterson: thinking about design remote control, with our uh motto and all. Uh thing to keep in mind is that we need to stick to what people are familiar with. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Charles Peterson: No rational changes or whatever, 'cause Ronald Moser: Okay, Charles Peterson: it Ronald Moser: so very Charles Peterson: revolutionary Ronald Moser: intuitive design, Charles Peterson: changes, Ronald Moser: I guess. Charles Peterson: yes. Uh we might have to consider other design aspects of our product. So that was something I wanted to add, and perhaps some usability aspect. T_V_ is becoming central in most homes. Do we want people who are disabled in any way to uh, yeah, Ronald Moser: Yeah, Charles Peterson: to be able Ronald Moser: we Charles Peterson: to Ronald Moser: want Charles Peterson: use it as well? Ronald Moser: I suppose we want almost everyone to be using it. So I think I mean, really disabled people, yeah, might be a problem, but I think it's a little take it into consideration. Um yeah. I think we really need to cut the meeting short. You have Wilbur Coe: Hmm. Ronald Moser: anything you Norman Carlton: Uh. Ronald Moser: wanna share quickly? Wilbur Coe: Only one thing uh that has to be added according to Norman Carlton is uh the the material it is made of, it should be something light. That's Charles Peterson: Yeah. Wilbur Coe: it speaks for itself, but Ronald Moser: It Wilbur Coe: some Ronald Moser: should be Wilbur Coe: uh Ronald Moser: light, okay. Wilbur Coe: Yeah. Norman Carlton: Yeah. Ronald Moser: Um, let's see, where did I Let's skip that. Oh, this is it. Sorry, I skipped Norman Carlton: Selling Ronald Moser: this sheet. Norman Carlton: price. Ronald Moser: What do we This Quick What we're going to Selling price, twenty five Euros. That's for you. The production price, twelve and a Wilbur Coe: Okay. Ronald Moser: half Euros, approximately. Just go go for that. We'll Wilbur Coe: Okay. Ronald Moser: reach the uh reach that profit. Charles Peterson: Okay, well that's not that much Norman Carlton: international. Charles Peterson: to work with. Ronald Moser: No, it's not much to work on. I'm sorry, I skipped it. Anyways, that's Yeah, this is it. Do you have anything you you came up with yet? About uh marketing transfer, whatever? Norman Carlton: Um about what? Marketing? Ronald Moser: Marketing I'm not sure what you what you came up with yet. You have anything to share? Or else we'll cut the meeting just cut the Norman Carlton: Um Ronald Moser: meeting short since we're supposed Norman Carlton: no, Ronald Moser: to stop. Norman Carlton: not really yet, but Ronald Moser: Okay. Norman Carlton: I've some ideas and I will uh Ronald Moser: Anyways, Norman Carlton: say Ronald Moser: the Norman Carlton: it Ronald Moser: the Norman Carlton: uh Ronald Moser: personal coach will give you the your p your personal assignments and everything. So we'll just meet back in here thirty minutes. Wilbur Coe: Okay. Norman Carlton: Okay. Ronald Moser: I'm sure we have that. Wilbur Coe: Good luck everyone. Ronald Moser: Yeah, thanks for attending. Charles Peterson: Mm, good luck. Ronald Moser: I'll see you back here in thirty minutes. Norman Carlton: Okay. Norman Carlton: Yes.	The goal of the project is to design an original, trendy and user-friendly remote control for TV. The team comprises Ronald Moser, Norman Carlton, who is looking at user needs, Charles Peterson, looking at usability, and Wilbur Coe, working on the engineering and materials. The project will be completed with three further meetings: the following meeting concerns the functional design. Ronald Moser gave a quick overview of the equipment available. The remote needs to be produced for 12.50 euros in order to be sold for double that amount. The whole team tried out the SMARTboard, by drawing their favourite animals. Afterwards, they discussed briefly their first ideas, including the use of light materials and usability concerns.	3	amisum	train
Mark Kreidel: Wait for the marketing director actually, so. Anyways. Uh. Mark Kreidel: See, shall we wait? I'm not sure if he's late or delayed or whatever, so I'm gonna start soon, we have now don't have much time anyway. Robert Barker: Oh, there he Marcel Jessup: Yes. Ray Harju: Okay, Robert Barker: is. Mark Kreidel: There Ray Harju: we Marcel Jessup: Sorry, Mark Kreidel: you are, okay. Marcel Jessup: a little bit of pl Mark Kreidel: Uh no Marcel Jessup: little Mark Kreidel: problem. We're Marcel Jessup: with Mark Kreidel: about Marcel Jessup: computer. Mark Kreidel: to start, so have a seat. Okay, welcome again. Today, functional design phase. I'll take you over the minutes of last last meeting. Okay, that was just to Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: get to know each other have, a little thoughts on what your vision is and on this project, so I put the minutes on the I made on the on the p the the project share, so if you wanna review them, they're there. I will do so after every meeting, so if you have some information you wanna take back you can find it there. Anyways, um today three presentations, from every one of you. Um after that I got some new project requirements from project board, so we're gonna go af go after over this later. But I wanna start with uh stuff you did first, so we can see what everybody came up with. And after that we can have the new requirements and share some thoughts, so. Who would like wanna go first? Marcel Jessup: Yeah, sure, no problem. Robert Barker: Go ahead. Mark Kreidel: Take it. Marcel Jessup: Um there was a little problem with my computer so not uh the whole uh presentation uh Mark Kreidel: Anyway, let's see what you have. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Um Marcel Jessup: Okay, and Mark Kreidel: Uh it's still a bit open. Marcel Jessup: I want to open the my s oh no. Mark Kreidel: You should close it on your own notebook, I guess. Yeah. Marcel Jessup: Oh no, Mark Kreidel: So Marcel Jessup: that's Mark Kreidel: there? Okay. Marcel Jessup: okay. Uh slide show. Yes. The functional requirements, it's uh uh very important for uh the user, he he wants to yeah. The the method used not m a slide because it went wrong, but the method we use uh, um we tested it w uh with uh a hundred uh men, and we asked them to w uh what the remote uh f feel uh like and uh what what's uh important. Mark Kreidel: If I Marcel Jessup: Uh Mark Kreidel: can cut in, is it people or men? Marcel Jessup: People, sorry. Mark Kreidel: Is it people, okay. Marcel Jessup: Both Mark Kreidel: 'Cause I Marcel Jessup: women Mark Kreidel: thought it was Marcel Jessup: and Mark Kreidel: only Marcel Jessup: men, Mark Kreidel: men, so Marcel Jessup: yeah. Okay. Mark Kreidel: 'Kay. Marcel Jessup: Uh the findings um uh seventy five percent of the users find most remote controls ugly. Um Robert Barker: That's shocking Mark Kreidel: So we Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: have Robert Barker: uh. Mark Kreidel: to s we have to do something Marcel Jessup: and Mark Kreidel: about that. Marcel Jessup: yeah, most th th they want to spend money for a better system, for better remote control, so we can do uh a l a little uh nice things with it, and um they use yeah, they use zap a lot, um uh fifty percent say they only So that's the most important things. Mark Kreidel: Okay. Marcel Jessup: Um oh yeah, not all of it is it on mine on my PowerPoint presentation, Mark Kreidel: Okay, Marcel Jessup: but Mark Kreidel: just talk Marcel Jessup: um Mark Kreidel: ahead. Marcel Jessup: uh the relevant buttons are the power, the channel selection and the volume selection. It's Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Marcel Jessup: uh the most basic buttons that a user wants uh to use. Uh less important is tel teletext, Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Marcel Jessup: uh um they use it, but it's not uh very uh important uh on the scale of zero to ten they six and a half uh Mark Kreidel: Okay, that's okay. Marcel Jessup: and but not important is the channel selection, the the hmm? Mark Kreidel: That's a little weird. Marcel Jessup: Oh, the Robert Barker: Which channel Marcel Jessup: the Robert Barker: selection? Marcel Jessup: no no no no no, that's very important, but uh w and not important in the audio settings, display settings and Mark Kreidel: Okay, Marcel Jessup: uh Mark Kreidel: we can we Robert Barker: Oh, Mark Kreidel: can Robert Barker: okay. Mark Kreidel: hide those under Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: a menu or something, okay. Marcel Jessup: Um new preferences preferences. Uh um um beep to find your control, was that Mark Kreidel: That's Marcel Jessup: was Mark Kreidel: like Marcel Jessup: in Mark Kreidel: a Marcel Jessup: the Mark Kreidel: button Marcel Jessup: test, Mark Kreidel: on your T_V_? Marcel Jessup: the the most people uh f find it uh irritating uh when they cannot find a rem Ray Harju: Mm. Marcel Jessup: their remote Mark Kreidel: Remote, Marcel Jessup: control, Mark Kreidel: okay. Marcel Jessup: so uh I think it's a bee beep to sound it and uh you can find it. And another thing uh they want was uh speech recognition um so they can say uh what they want to let's go to channel one and uh Mark Kreidel: Okay. Marcel Jessup: that's uh kind of things. And they want maybe an uh L_C_D_ screen um to to look it um wh what's on every channel uh and uh what Mark Kreidel: We wanna Marcel Jessup: do Mark Kreidel: have Marcel Jessup: I want Mark Kreidel: a little preview Marcel Jessup: with it? Mark Kreidel: on the remote control. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Preview what's on the channel. Okay. Robert Barker: Is that manageable? 'Cause it sounds pretty expensive too. Mark Kreidel: That sounds Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: too It's possible, but uh I think it's expensive, but do continue. Robert Barker: Okay. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Um Uh my personal preferences is uh a button for my favourite channel, so I can uh I dunno, so I can zap to my uh f uh quick uh to my favourite channel wh what I uh so, the remote mu must see or um must um see wha what mine preferences are for which Mark Kreidel: Okay, Marcel Jessup: channel, Mark Kreidel: you don't Marcel Jessup: so Mark Kreidel: set it yourself, Marcel Jessup: I can Mark Kreidel: it just Marcel Jessup: zap t Mark Kreidel: remembers Marcel Jessup: to Mark Kreidel: the channel that you are on most, for example. Marcel Jessup: What? Mark Kreidel: You want the you want it to be programmed, for example Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: y programmed f or Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: you want it to recognise your favourite channel? Marcel Jessup: Recognise Mark Kreidel: Let's see, you you spend twenty minutes each day on that channel, Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: so it recognises your favourite channel. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, that's uh what my personal preference Mark Kreidel: Okay, Marcel Jessup: like. Mark Kreidel: so it's it it does it recognise itself, you don't have to set Marcel Jessup: No, Mark Kreidel: it Okay. Marcel Jessup: itself. Maybe it's easier to to sell it, but Mark Kreidel: Okay. Marcel Jessup: I don't know it's manageable, but we Mark Kreidel: I see. Marcel Jessup: will uh we will see. Yeah, it's a little bit uh it's the end of it. It's Mark Kreidel: Okay. Marcel Jessup: a little bit Robert Barker: Okay. Marcel Jessup: uh I lost it, the computer uh crashed, so. Mark Kreidel: No problem, it's it's okay, that's Robert Barker: Shall I go? Mark Kreidel: Yeah, go Robert Barker: Okay. Mark Kreidel: ahead. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: So, some technical Marcel Jessup: Darn Robert Barker: functions. Marcel Jessup: computer. Robert Barker: Basically I have some issues which you discussed earlier. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: Uh let's just start with the method. It sounds really easy, what does the user do, what does the th remote control do, but there are quite some issues. So the things I'm going to concentrate on are the user aspect, because the technical aspect, that's pretty much covered. We can do that. What goes wrong at the user. Gets the remote control. Where is the remote control? We've all had it once, I want Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: to watch some television, where's the remote control? That was one of your ideas which you posted Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: in the network folder, Mark Kreidel: That seems Robert Barker: a Mark Kreidel: very Robert Barker: really Mark Kreidel: good. Robert Barker: good idea. Uh these are just the issues. I come to some uh personal experience, findings, possible solutions later. Searches for the button. There are many buttons on a remote control which are not clear. Uh so either we lose those or we try to make it a little bit more clear. Marcel Jessup: Mm uh. Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Robert Barker: Uh also symbols tend to fade after a while. There's nothing more annoying than faded symbols, because you don't know which channel is this button, so possibly we could find Mark Kreidel: Okay, Robert Barker: uh Mark Kreidel: so have it more make it more Robert Barker: something Mark Kreidel: durable Robert Barker: for that, Mark Kreidel: actually. Robert Barker: yes. Mark Kreidel: Okay. Robert Barker: Uh covered that. Oh yes, user presses the button. Um usually when you have a lot of buttons, buttons are small. So you press more once remote control goes Mark Kreidel: Okay, so Robert Barker: kablouey Mark Kreidel: the buttons should Robert Barker: or something Mark Kreidel: be Robert Barker: like that, so we have to pay attention not to put too mun too many buttons on Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Robert Barker: uh the remote control. Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: And possibly also the size, so Mark Kreidel: Wow. Robert Barker: more important buttons, Mark Kreidel: The s Yeah. Robert Barker: bigger Mark Kreidel: Make it Robert Barker: si Mark Kreidel: make them bigger. Even Robert Barker: So Mark Kreidel: more Robert Barker: this Mark Kreidel: durable Robert Barker: is basically Mark Kreidel: uh. Robert Barker: what I h had in mind in the fade-proof symbols, locator, a sound, uh so clear we should stick to existing symbols, but maybe we could do a little uh investigation to see whether some symbols are uh need to be replaced by others. Mark Kreidel: Okay. Robert Barker: Uh This I pretty much covered. So what we want to go to is not this one, but more Mark Kreidel: Yeah, it's true. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: less buttons, easy, some bigger buttons. So that's basically uh Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Robert Barker: what Mark Kreidel: that's Robert Barker: I had Mark Kreidel: clear. Robert Barker: in mind. This is not the final design, this Mark Kreidel: No, Robert Barker: is just Mark Kreidel: of course Robert Barker: a general Mark Kreidel: uh Robert Barker: idea of Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: how I'd like to see uh Mark Kreidel: I must Robert Barker: basically Mark Kreidel: say that Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: it Robert Barker: general idea. Mark Kreidel: Hmm. Robert Barker: So that was it. Mark Kreidel: That was it. Okay, that was good. So we agree on the the part that we need to get something on the on the remote to find it somewhere Robert Barker: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: and Robert Barker: I think Mark Kreidel: increase Robert Barker: it's a Mark Kreidel: it Robert Barker: really good idea. Mark Kreidel: the durability of of the thing, so Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: The other aspects, we'll just see how what you came up with and what's possible for that budget. Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Okay. Ray Harju: Okay, that's fine Um. Okay, now work a little with Marcel Jessup. Okay. Well, let's start it as it is. Okay, uh the method. There are a few questions that need to be answered, uh you already uh talked about it a little bit. Which buttons are wanted, uh is our remote control universal or should it be programmable. Uh if it should be programmeab grammeale then we need um something like a mode that you can switch it. buttons have to send out a different signal then they would normally do. Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Ray Harju: And uh how big is the remote control uh going to be? I'll tell you why that's important to Marcel Jessup. Um there are a lot of technical parts in the remote control, so uh uh that's why I also would like to say uh go a little bit easy on the designs, uh I heard ab uh you talking about beeps and about uh video screens, but uh the material inside and the technical aspects are quite complex already. Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Ray Harju: So keep in mind that everything that you keep uh think of, it has to b to be built. So it's Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Ray Harju: that's Mark Kreidel: Of course, Ray Harju: not as easy as Mark Kreidel: hmm. Ray Harju: it s Robert Barker: Okay. Ray Harju: might look like. Uh material study, I'm working on that um for the the costs. I have to check out how far I can go with that. Normally, a circuit board is made of fibreglass uh and the wires are made of copper. Uh that is how it is done and all the remote controls work that way, I think we can just go on with that. Um then I've read more integration of materials means less cost for the production. The more we can make uh at once uh in one piece, uh that is cheaper. Mark Kreidel: You mean integrate them all into the circuit board. Ray Harju: Exactly, Mark Kreidel: Okay. Ray Harju: so if we make a circuit board with the the connections already on it, then that's cheaper. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: So we Mark Kreidel: okay. Ray Harju: have to Mark Kreidel: So you have Ray Harju: make something that's not too difficult in design again. This is what look like uh looks like if you press one button, so this is not the entire thing. You have the the power coming in, then you have like a switch. The switch uh uh uh if you p press it then some electrical charge goes into the processor, that thinks over a Morse code, that's how you should see it. The Morse code goes to the amplifier, then uh the signal is sent to two uh light bulbs. You have infrared and an interv um uh how to say it? Uh a light in indication, light that you know Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Ray Harju: that it's functioning. Uh here again, that's my story about the different modes, if you do want to make remote uh universal, then the processor has to uh make up a different Morse code when some button is pressed. That makes it much more complex, so we really need to have a look, do we want that or not. Uh I don't have any personal p uh preferences uh so far, except for uh Mark Kreidel: Okay. Ray Harju: the materials to be used uh light, that they are light. Mark Kreidel: Okay. That was it? Ray Harju: That was Mark Kreidel: I'll get Ray Harju: it. Mark Kreidel: back to my thing then. Uh Mark Kreidel: Okay, back this up to the screen. So I got some new information on the project specifications are changing a little. Like you said uh teletext is not not very popular anymore because the uh the internet, nowadays people don't use the teletext anymore or hardly, so it can either Well, I don't think we should remove the button, because there are always people who are using it. Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: But I don't think it should be very it should be one of the big buttons for example. Just put it somewhere or under second option or whatever. It's not important anymore. Um we're targeting young people now, because our um This is a new product and with this new product we want to appeal to Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: younger people, which are um the younger Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: people were defined under forty. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: I so I think it's Marcel Jessup: B Mark Kreidel: that's also good with the fashion and everything, so Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: yeah. Marcel Jessup: and they want to pay for it and uh Mark Kreidel: They want to pay for it, people are willing to spend money actually to buy a um remote that they like. Marcel Jessup: With Mark Kreidel: If they like Marcel Jessup: more Mark Kreidel: the way it looks, the way it functions, so they're actually gonna spend uh spend money on it. Marcel Jessup: Where with more technical specifications Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Marcel Jessup: in the Mark Kreidel: see how far we can go with it anyway, so Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: And one thing that should be important is that the corporate l colour and slogan are recognisable, and yellow, but I'm not sure if we I think we should keep the the logo in mind, because with colours you can uh have a lot of uh fashionable colours and everything on it, which suits everybody's taste. So With that concept I started thinking, so why not just steal Nokia's idea and just make changeable Robert Barker: Oh. Mark Kreidel: covers for your I mean those cost hardly anything I think, Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: and people could even spend extra money on buying a cover and so have an entire new remote control that they like to see. Or we can sh for example we can make a different a basic design. And sell the covers separately, for example. That's just a little marketing idea that could be applied, so you can p it appeals to really everyone. So you don't have to I think you don't have to make entire remote controls. We make a basic one and manufacture this cover separately. Ray Harju: Mm-hmm. Mark Kreidel: So that was that was my idea on what we could do to appeal this product to everyone. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: So just I'm not sure if you came up with anything in the meantime, after making a presentation. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Would you like to share? Ray Harju: No, I think this is a good idea. Mark Kreidel: Okay. Ray Harju: But Marcel Jessup: But Robert Barker: Is Marcel Jessup: oh? Robert Barker: it manageable? Ray Harju: Go ahead. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Robert Barker: Is it easy? Marcel Jessup: with with an L_C_D_ screen you can Mark Kreidel: Oh yeah. I think Ray Harju: Y Mark Kreidel: we should lose the L_C_D_ screen, like you Ray Harju: Yes, Mark Kreidel: said. Marcel Jessup: Why? Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: think Ray Harju: think so too. Marcel Jessup: Nokia Mark Kreidel: for example it's Marcel Jessup: w Mark Kreidel: it's huge I think the L_C_D_ is huge, it consumes batteries like hell. Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: I think it takes up a lot of Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: a lot of power. Robert Barker: And it costs too much Mark Kreidel: It costs Robert Barker: to fabricate, Mark Kreidel: a lot, Robert Barker: so Mark Kreidel: I think. Ray Harju: Okay, Marcel Jessup: Okay. Ray Harju: uh Robert Barker: we're Mark Kreidel: What Robert Barker: on a Mark Kreidel: we Robert Barker: tight Mark Kreidel: could do, Robert Barker: budget here. Mark Kreidel: what could be possible, is maybe not an L_C_D_ screen but with a preview, but y I'm not sure if it's even possible. Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: For example, a little T_V_ guide. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Like you have a little just just a text only, not Ray Harju: Mm-hmm. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: colour, just a little text thing so you can use your remote as a T_V_ guide. I'm not sure Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: it's even Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: possible, but Ray Harju: have to check that Mark Kreidel: maybe Ray Harju: out, I'm Mark Kreidel: okay, Ray Harju: not sure. Mark Kreidel: make it Yeah, find a little compromise in that, but Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: What did I write down? I think the p yeah, the beep is a very simple thing to imple implement, just Ray Harju: That must Mark Kreidel: make Ray Harju: be Mark Kreidel: a Ray Harju: possible. Mark Kreidel: button on your T_V_ and just hit the button, it beeps somewhere. I Ray Harju: Ja. Mark Kreidel: think it's easy to implement, we should Ray Harju: I'm Mark Kreidel: go for Ray Harju: sorry, Mark Kreidel: that. Ray Harju: whe Robert Barker: And Mark Kreidel: Uh speech Robert Barker: it's Ray Harju: where do Mark Kreidel: recognition. Ray Harju: you wanna hit the T_ you wanna we want a button on the television. Mark Kreidel: I thin Yeah, I mean where Ray Harju: In Mark Kreidel: else should you Ray Harju: th Mark Kreidel: put it? Ray Harju: okay, but that rules out a universal remote control. Because that's Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: not possible Mark Kreidel: but Ray Harju: uh. Mark Kreidel: how are you gonna use that if your I mean if your remote control is Ray Harju: Uh. Mark Kreidel: lost, how Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: are you gonna press where are you gonna press the button? Ray Harju: Exactly. Robert Barker: Maybe just a slap-on sticker with a button which sends out a small Mark Kreidel: A slap-on Robert Barker: signal. Mark Kreidel: sticker. Oh, you mean as like a separate thing you can attach Marcel Jessup: Mm uh. Mark Kreidel: to your T_V_. Robert Barker: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: Yeah, that could Robert Barker: exactly. Mark Kreidel: be possible. A little little box you can attach Ray Harju: Okay, Mark Kreidel: to your T_V_ is fine Ray Harju: then Mark Kreidel: then, okay. Ray Harju: uh I'd I'd like to know now if we want the uh universal remote control or not, because that's uh Mark Kreidel: I think it's Ray Harju: determines Mark Kreidel: universal. Ray Harju: everything I'm gonna do. Mark Kreidel: I think we should Ray Harju: If not Mark Kreidel: go for universal, because Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: apparently we're a separate company making separate c remote controls to sell to a lot of diverse Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: people. I think universal remote control Marcel Jessup: Um Mark Kreidel: should be possible. Ray Harju: Okay, Marcel Jessup: Everyone Ray Harju: then I go for that. Marcel Jessup: uh wants to buy it, so Mark Kreidel: Yeah, I think Ray Harju: Yeah. Marcel Jessup: we Mark Kreidel: we're targeting Marcel Jessup: w Mark Kreidel: everyone, Marcel Jessup: yeah. Mark Kreidel: so Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: remote Ray Harju: No, it's fine with Marcel Jessup, but then I know what to look Mark Kreidel: Okay, Ray Harju: for. Mark Kreidel: universal is good. Speech recognition, I think it's very hard, because we're selling across multiple countries. So I think Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: implementing speech recognition is such a small um Marcel Jessup: Or one. Mark Kreidel: apparatus, it's very hard to do. Marcel Jessup: Or Robert Barker: And it's Marcel Jessup: when you say one two uh i it uh it's Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Marcel Jessup: enough, Mark Kreidel: but I Marcel Jessup: right? Mark Kreidel: don't see Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: Arabian people speaking Marcel Jessup: Oh Mark Kreidel: one, Marcel Jessup: yeah. Mark Kreidel: two uh whatever. Robert Barker: Besides that, the technology isn't really super yet, so that Mark Kreidel: It's Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: is a problem in Mark Kreidel: It's Robert Barker: implementing Mark Kreidel: not a mature technology, Robert Barker: this. Marcel Jessup: Okay. Mark Kreidel: I think it takes a lot of memory and everything in in a remote control, Robert Barker: It's a good Mark Kreidel: so Robert Barker: idea, but it's just not I don't think the market's ripe for that yet. Mark Kreidel: I don't think it should be implemented in a remote control yet uh. Ray Harju: Uh-huh. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: What else do we have? Um well you should you should look into the in into the materials that are real durable. Ray Harju: Mm-hmm. Mark Kreidel: So the the the symbols won't fade, maybe a little Ray Harju: Exactly. Mark Kreidel: harder plastic Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: or especially Ray Harju: already noted Mark Kreidel: li Ray Harju: that. Mark Kreidel: we don't maybe we don't have have to do all the buttons, but especially the ones that are um the popular buttons, Ray Harju: Mm, Mark Kreidel: so Ray Harju: okay. Mark Kreidel: those always fade first. Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: Mm the thing is the most important things that we have now. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Let's see. Ray Harju: If we uh make a remote control with changeable covers, then we can also make uh a cover for every language area. That's Mark Kreidel: For Ray Harju: fo Mark Kreidel: example? Ray Harju: is uh especially for older people, that they can read it read Mark Kreidel: Well, Ray Harju: it in their Mark Kreidel: we're Ray Harju: own Mark Kreidel: not Ray Harju: language. Mark Kreidel: we're not Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: targeting older people, we should remember that. Everything Ray Harju: That's Mark Kreidel: we target is under Ray Harju: okay, Mark Kreidel: forty, so. Ray Harju: okay. Mark Kreidel: You assume that that they read correctly and Ray Harju: Huh. Mark Kreidel: I think they're The most Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: important Marcel Jessup: b Mark Kreidel: thing about young people is that they're really sensitive to to trends that are passing through the world, Ray Harju: Uh Mark Kreidel: so Ray Harju: okay. Robert Barker: But should the exchangeable covers include the buttons themselves or just Mark Kreidel: No, of Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: course. No, I think it's just something you you put over them, because Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Yeah we c Yeah, you ca Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: Well, Marcel Jessup: every Robert Barker: C Mark Kreidel: tha that's Robert Barker: that's Mark Kreidel: not Robert Barker: a Mark Kreidel: a that's Robert Barker: problem Mark Kreidel: not a Robert Barker: with Mark Kreidel: bad Robert Barker: the with Mark Kreidel: that's Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: not Robert Barker: text Mark Kreidel: even Robert Barker: then. Mark Kreidel: it's not even a bad idea. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: I mean, for example, if you're if you're into the durability issue you could For example, if your buttons are faded, after Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: I mean if you make a durable remote, they are faded, you can just buy a new cover. Uh Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: I'm not sure it's it's hard to make. Ray Harju: Uh Mark Kreidel: So it's Ray Harju: but Mark Kreidel: a good Ray Harju: I know Mark Kreidel: and a Ray Harju: that Mark Kreidel: bad idea. Ray Harju: the buttons are like a Nokia telephone on uh one sleeve, so you Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Ray Harju: don't have to change your whole cover. Uh we can make something that you can only remove the sleeve. Know Marcel Jessup: Oh. Ray Harju: what Robert Barker: Oh Ray Harju: I mean? Robert Barker: yeah, I know what you Ray Harju: It Robert Barker: mean. Ray Harju: works the same as a Nokia telephone, it's it's in my Mark Kreidel: Yeah, I Ray Harju: uh Mark Kreidel: know, it's just Ray Harju: 'kay. Mark Kreidel: just Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: a one one piece of rubber for example, Ray Harju: Exactly. Mark Kreidel: okay. Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, that's what I something I have to look into. Either either change both the buttons and and the cover or just the cover, I'm not sure which Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: which is easier, so Um anyway, yeah, this is what we're gonna do afterwards, just lunch break and have more individual work after that, so let's see what we let's see we So you have to come up with a components concept, yeah. I want some you should do some trend-watching, because Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: even if we're if we're gonna do those covers and everything, what people really want, that's what we need Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: to know in this phase, because that's gonna be the essential final design that we're gonna come up with. Marcel Jessup: Okay. Mark Kreidel: Um Yeah, I think user interface is fairly obvious. I mean it Robert Barker: Pretty Mark Kreidel: should Robert Barker: straightforward. Mark Kreidel: be very intuitive, s Yeah, it should speak for itself. Uh for example I bought a remote control last week with a new T_V_, it was it l it's like all buttons and you have no idea what it does at first, and I'm total T_V_ new, anyway. So I think it should be have less or l very little buttons and maybe a second second level menu for the advanced things. Or maybe just stick 'em under a menu, like you said the um the sound options and the surround and whatever, they're more complicated, just stick 'em under one menu and uh give it a just put it in in s in a software piece, you can menu and you can uh select Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: everything you want to to set on your T_V_. Robert Barker: Is it techni technically possible to uh send a signal to a television and then Ray Harju: Yeah. Robert Barker: pops up a menu, because we're working with different types of television, so we're going to work Mark Kreidel: That Robert Barker: with that? Mark Kreidel: is true. Ray Harju: I don't think so. Mark Kreidel: No, that's true. Ray Harju: No, I don't think so. Because the television needs to respond to Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: the signal, Mark Kreidel: that's true. Robert Barker: It's Ray Harju: and if Robert Barker: an Ray Harju: it doesn't Robert Barker: in-built Ray Harju: know how, Robert Barker: menu, Ray Harju: it's Robert Barker: isn't it? Yes. Ray Harju: Exactly, that's not possible. Robert Barker: So basically we Mark Kreidel: I'm not sure if it's impossible, but uh there's a chance it's not, so. Robert Barker: Or we could use a double-sided for less used functions you Mark Kreidel: A double-sided remote control? Robert Barker: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: I don't think that's useful. Robert Barker: with the cover. I it's basically an idea to overcome these issues, because Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but then you're gonna have a lot of wasted buttons. For example you have a Sony T_V_ and the half of the buttons won't function if you have Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: a for a Sony Robert Barker: No, Mark Kreidel: that Robert Barker: but Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: won't Robert Barker: basic Mark Kreidel: for Robert Barker: functions Mark Kreidel: a Philips T_V_. Robert Barker: but functions which are not frequently used. Because Mark Kreidel: I don't Robert Barker: if Mark Kreidel: think Robert Barker: we Mark Kreidel: we Robert Barker: use Mark Kreidel: should Robert Barker: a Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Robert Barker: universal Mark Kreidel: for exam Robert Barker: remote control, we're going to have to have most buttons on it, so Marcel Jessup: Mm Mark Kreidel: I'm not s Marcel Jessup: yeah. Mark Kreidel: yeah, for ex you have to make it a little decision between the part if you want a universal remote control that it should do what people usually do with their T_V_s, not Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: not the very complicated settings that you Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: can usually do that with uh either a old old remote control if they really hate that thing, but Ray Harju: But that Mark Kreidel: you Ray Harju: might Mark Kreidel: can't Ray Harju: be broken. Mark Kreidel: you cannot take into consideration all the different brands of T_V_s. I think there's I think there is a standard for Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: example between uh because usually the the menu is the menu button is is usable Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: between different brands. Especially the big ones, the Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: big brands, so. 'Cause everybody I have a universal remote control and it can use the menu button, Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: so I think I'm not sure, if you can put some research into that, if it's possible. Uh Ray Harju: Mm okay. Mark Kreidel: I think just a b and the navigation is very basic, it's usually the same thing. Ray Harju: For instance, if your old remote control is broken and you buy ours, then uh you Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Ray Harju: should be able to get everything out of the television that's in it. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, that's Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: true. Ray Harju: Because Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: otherwise Mark Kreidel: think Ray Harju: you'll Mark Kreidel: so Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: lose Mark Kreidel: uh Ray Harju: functions Mark Kreidel: we need Ray Harju: by Mark Kreidel: to put Ray Harju: buying Mark Kreidel: some research Ray Harju: our Mark Kreidel: into that if if we can open the menu, I think it's possible, Ray Harju: Okay, Mark Kreidel: just the way how to. Ray Harju: I thi I think so too. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, yeah. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, then then you could do everything I suppose, because usually the T_V_s have tha that inside in this other little piece of software, so it's okay. Ray Harju: And I think that our r remote control should not look like uh any other. For instance uh Sony makes all their remote controls exactly the same Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Ray Harju: for all their devices, and you always grab the wrong one because formatting of the buttons is exactly Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Ray Harju: the same, only the labels are different. Mark Kreidel: Yeah I think Ray Harju: We should Mark Kreidel: it Ray Harju: not Mark Kreidel: should Ray Harju: do Mark Kreidel: be Ray Harju: that. Mark Kreidel: a little distinct from everything else, Ray Harju: Exactly. Mark Kreidel: because it's Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: either it's both Robert Barker: Yeah, I have Mark Kreidel: mayb Robert Barker: some ideas. Mark Kreidel: maybe the shape can be a little different. Robert Barker: I Mark Kreidel: Maybe Robert Barker: have Mark Kreidel: it's Robert Barker: some Mark Kreidel: a little Robert Barker: ideas. Marcel Jessup: Um Mark Kreidel: more Ray Harju: Mm Mark Kreidel: curves Ray Harju: that's your Mark Kreidel: or whatever. Ray Harju: uh Marcel Jessup: yeah. Ray Harju: division. Marcel Jessup: And uh with Mark Kreidel: So um Marcel Jessup: different colours uh. Robert Barker: I'll put some on paper and present them next time uh Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Robert Barker: the ideas Mark Kreidel: this. Robert Barker: that I have. Mark Kreidel: Not Marcel Jessup: Okay. Mark Kreidel: sure what because we have forty minutes, I'm not sure how much time we have left for the meeting anyway, so. Robert Barker: I heard a beep Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but Robert Barker: go. Mark Kreidel: it wasn't Marcel Jessup, it was him closing Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: something. So anyway, yeah, we could do some i do some work now on on the design for example. I mean what do you want, do you want, but Robert Barker: Yeah, but we like some some curves or Mark Kreidel: Yeah, may maybe something like this. But though smooth inside. So you have the transmitter here for example. Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Let's see that you what would be Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: handy. I think that the the buttons should be the channel buttons should Marcel Jessup: And a Mark Kreidel: be Marcel Jessup: light uh Mark Kreidel: uh on their own. Let's see one, two God damn it. Robert Barker: Oh, we get the general ideas, yes. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, okay. Another one here. Let's see what I think this should these are always on top of the of the control, Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: so they should be here. Robert Barker: Yeah, and since you're holding it like this, I suggest you put Mark Kreidel: Think it's Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: like this. Robert Barker: channel Marcel Jessup: Volume. Robert Barker: up channel down and volume Mark Kreidel: Withi within Robert Barker: yeah Mark Kreidel: the Yeah, Robert Barker: yeah. Mark Kreidel: just take it. Robert Barker: So you have the up channel the down channel the volume, do we want that horizontal or vertical? Mark Kreidel: Do you take triangles or Marcel Jessup: Uh it's it's fine, Mark Kreidel: Um Marcel Jessup: I think. Mark Kreidel: I think Robert Barker: This Mark Kreidel: it Robert Barker: is Mark Kreidel: should Robert Barker: basically Mark Kreidel: be Robert Barker: what people are accustomed Mark Kreidel: I think Robert Barker: to, Mark Kreidel: it Ray Harju: Yeah. Robert Barker: so Mark Kreidel: Maybe we should make 'em bigger or whatever. Robert Barker: Yeah, but Marcel Jessup: Oh Robert Barker: this Marcel Jessup: d Robert Barker: is just a g Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: general idea. Uh maybe the menu button can go i Mark Kreidel: Yeah, in the middle. It's Robert Barker: in the Mark Kreidel: it's Robert Barker: middle. Mark Kreidel: usually uh there, but Robert Barker: Whoa. Mark Kreidel: Mm. Ray Harju: Perhaps we should also make uh something like a flash on it, if you if it's lost, for people that are deaf. They they won't Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: hear the the beep. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but for example if it's lost in your armchair, we'll Robert Barker: You Mark Kreidel: not Ray Harju: Yeah. Robert Barker: won't Mark Kreidel: see Robert Barker: be able Mark Kreidel: the flash. Robert Barker: to find it. Mark Kreidel: And flash Ray Harju: Uh. Mark Kreidel: takes up a lot of batteries again. Ray Harju: Yeah, it's true, but it's it's only has to do so when you press the button that Marcel Jessup: Just Ray Harju: it's lost. Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: We could make Ray Harju: So. Robert Barker: a combination that it goes beep and that you that some Marcel Jessup: And Robert Barker: light Marcel Jessup: L_E_D_ Robert Barker: lights Marcel Jessup: uh Ray Harju: deaf Robert Barker: up. Ray Harju: people? Marcel Jessup: on Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Marcel Jessup: it. Mark Kreidel: I thought about for deaf people for example, so. We could do that. Marcel Jessup: Just Mark Kreidel: Uh Marcel Jessup: a light Mark Kreidel: let's see. Marcel Jessup: on it or Robert Barker: So we have the basic channels we've got here, uh the power button Mark Kreidel: Oh yeah, it's Robert Barker: somewhere Mark Kreidel: true. Robert Barker: over here? Mark Kreidel: Um that Marcel Jessup: Very Mark Kreidel: thing Marcel Jessup: important. Mark Kreidel: should be central. You shouldn't be you uh shouldn't press it by accident, but it shouldn't be stacked Marcel Jessup: Oh, Mark Kreidel: away somewhere. Robert Barker: I usually Marcel Jessup: that's Robert Barker: press Marcel Jessup: It's Robert Barker: it on top. At least Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Robert Barker: that's what I'm accustomed to. Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: have another idea, Mark Kreidel: like that's Ray Harju: I'm Mark Kreidel: gonna work. Marcel Jessup: And Ray Harju: not sure if it's possible. Robert Barker: What would you like to? Mark Kreidel: Yeah, I thought maybe we should Marcel Jessup: But you Mark Kreidel: move Marcel Jessup: r Mark Kreidel: the buttons down and Marcel Jessup: And you are Mark Kreidel: put Marcel Jessup: reading Mark Kreidel: it here Marcel Jessup: from Mark Kreidel: for Marcel Jessup: the Mark Kreidel: example Marcel Jessup: t Mark Kreidel: to Marcel Jessup: you always read from the top to the the bottom Mark Kreidel: From Marcel Jessup: of Mark Kreidel: top Marcel Jessup: it. Mark Kreidel: to bottom. Yeah, Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: that's Marcel Jessup: so Mark Kreidel: true, you should Ray Harju: Mm. Marcel Jessup: it's Mark Kreidel: I think the bu the power button should be on top, 'cause Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: it's the first thing you do, turn it on. So power button on top. Um Robert Barker: Okay, mute button. Mark Kreidel: Mute. Robert Barker: Is that Mark Kreidel: Do we Robert Barker: somewhere Mark Kreidel: hardly Robert Barker: here? Mark Kreidel: I think it should be at the bottom Robert Barker: Is Marcel Jessup: So Mark Kreidel: somewhere. Robert Barker: that Marcel Jessup: i Robert Barker: used Marcel Jessup: it's Robert Barker: often? Marcel Jessup: sorry? Robert Barker: The mute button? Mark Kreidel: Mute. Robert Barker: Do people Mark Kreidel: Turn the Robert Barker: use Mark Kreidel: sound Robert Barker: that Mark Kreidel: off. Marcel Jessup: No, Robert Barker: often? Marcel Jessup: it's no. Robert Barker: here, Marcel Jessup: Uh. Robert Barker: at least Marcel Jessup: Hmm. Robert Barker: in general, but Mark Kreidel: I don't think it's important, Robert Barker: It's Mark Kreidel: but Robert Barker: not Mark Kreidel: I Robert Barker: that Mark Kreidel: think Robert Barker: important, Mark Kreidel: it Robert Barker: no. Mark Kreidel: I think it should be you c you could put Marcel Jessup: Or Mark Kreidel: it somewhere here. Marcel Jessup: or with the volume selection. Mark Kreidel: No, because it Yeah, people are accustomed Marcel Jessup: Around Mark Kreidel: to that, it's Marcel Jessup: uh not uh not at top at the around the volume selection. Mark Kreidel: Can I have that? Marcel Jessup: I don't Robert Barker: Sure. Marcel Jessup: know where Mark Kreidel: That's j Marcel Jessup: exactly, but Mark Kreidel: Take this out and here see Uh are we gonna take triangles anyway? I'm drawing triangles, but Robert Barker: That's pretty much what people are accustomed to, aren't they? Mark Kreidel: Yeah, it's maybe a bigger lesser than thing. So anyway, I think this is should be the channels and Marcel Jessup: Wha Mark Kreidel: or Robert Barker: Well, Mark Kreidel: sh Robert Barker: I'm accustomed to Marcel Jessup: No. Robert Barker: the channels Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: being Ray Harju: Yeah, Robert Barker: on Ray Harju: Marcel Jessup Mark Kreidel: Here, Ray Harju: too. Robert Barker: top. Mark Kreidel: okay. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, that's better. Mark Kreidel: Okay, Marcel Jessup: On Mark Kreidel: should we Marcel Jessup: the Mark Kreidel: chan Marcel Jessup: right. Mark Kreidel: okay, this two, channel up and Ray Harju: Shall Mark Kreidel: down. Ray Harju: we uh also look if it's possible to make a rechargeable remote? That you don't have to Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: buy Mark Kreidel: Well, Ray Harju: new batteries Mark Kreidel: for Ray Harju: if Mark Kreidel: that Ray Harju: every Mark Kreidel: is it's on one part it's um it's Marcel Jessup: Maybe Mark Kreidel: a good Marcel Jessup: it's Mark Kreidel: thing Marcel Jessup: more Mark Kreidel: to recharge Marcel Jessup: ex Ray Harju: Mm, Marcel Jessup: expensive. Mark Kreidel: it Ray Harju: yeah. Mark Kreidel: Maybe we should what what could be possible is Ray Harju: Uh. Mark Kreidel: one with rechargeable batteries for example. You have just put Penlite batteries that are rechargeable, Ray Harju: But that's Mark Kreidel: because Ray Harju: already Robert Barker: But Mark Kreidel: it's Ray Harju: possible. Mark Kreidel: an it's Robert Barker: isn't Mark Kreidel: it's Robert Barker: that expensive in the Mark Kreidel: it's Robert Barker: entire Mark Kreidel: very annoying. Robert Barker: package? Mark Kreidel: I'm not sure y I'm not sure it's if it's expensive, but just take a look at it, because it might be a very good idea. Because if it's it's uh useful to have it rechargeable, Ray Harju: Yes. Mark Kreidel: but at the same time, if you don't want recha if you forgot to recharge it and you wanna watch T_V_ now, Ray Harju: Yes. Mark Kreidel: you wanna be able to put different batteries in it, use it now and not in half an hour. Ray Harju: Okay. Uh you could make a device, but I'm not sure how that uh is possible with the costs, that you can put in normal Mark Kreidel: How about Ray Harju: batteries, rechargeable, but Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: it Mark Kreidel: think I have a nice idea. Ray Harju: you're the remote also can act as a recharger. So then you can choose, you have every decision. Know what I mean? Mark Kreidel: Not exactly Ray Harju: You can Mark Kreidel: uh. Ray Harju: uh put in normal Penlites, rechargeable Penlites, Marcel Jessup: Hmm. Ray Harju: but they can also be recharged with the remote, Marcel Jessup: Yeah Ray Harju: with Marcel Jessup: yeah. Ray Harju: a wire. Mark Kreidel: I think it's uh it's a pretty good Ray Harju: So Mark Kreidel: idea to have Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: uh like Ray Harju: but Mark Kreidel: sort of a Marcel Jessup: that's Mark Kreidel: maybe Marcel Jessup: g Mark Kreidel: a base station that you put on the T_V_. Could be flat, you could insert your uh remote into it. Ray Harju: But I think that will cost a lot. Uh Mark Kreidel: I'm Ray Harju: a normal Mark Kreidel: not sure. Ray Harju: wire would be better. Like a Mark Kreidel: A what? Ray Harju: like a P_D_A_, a hand-held. You can uh just put it in the electricity and it charges itself, you Mark Kreidel: Well, Ray Harju: don't need Mark Kreidel: we Ray Harju: basic Mark Kreidel: were Ray Harju: station. Mark Kreidel: talking about the fact that we wanted to insert either a beep or a flash into Ray Harju: Yes. Mark Kreidel: the thing with a little separate signal or So you Ray Harju: That Mark Kreidel: could Ray Harju: is Mark Kreidel: put that Ray Harju: possible, Mark Kreidel: on a T_V_ Ray Harju: that's true. Mark Kreidel: for example. It could be very flat, Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: could be very small. It's a very Marcel Jessup: Which Mark Kreidel: small Yeah, I'm drawing it big now, but So you can put Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: your remote on flat for example. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: And at the backside of remote just just just a little hole Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: for example um you just put it down, it Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: recharges for example. I don't think it's very Robert Barker: But again, Mark Kreidel: expensive. Robert Barker: isn't Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: that too expensive? 'Cause that means Mark Kreidel: I'm not Robert Barker: that Mark Kreidel: sure Robert Barker: we Mark Kreidel: if it Robert Barker: have Mark Kreidel: costs Robert Barker: to implement Mark Kreidel: a lot, that Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: that's Robert Barker: rechargeable Mark Kreidel: what he r Robert Barker: batteries, a docking Mark Kreidel: That's that Robert Barker: station Mark Kreidel: you that's what you buy yourself. Ray Harju: Yes. I'm going to try to find that out. I'm not sure if there's information Mark Kreidel: It's just Ray Harju: available Mark Kreidel: an Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: idea, Ray Harju: on this, Mark Kreidel: we Ray Harju: but Mark Kreidel: have to find out if it's Robert Barker: And Mark Kreidel: possible. Robert Barker: do people actually want that? Marcel Jessup: Yeah, they Robert Barker: To Marcel Jessup: want Robert Barker: pay extra Marcel Jessup: to pay for it. Mark Kreidel: Do they want Robert Barker: they want Mark Kreidel: but Robert Barker: to Mark Kreidel: they Robert Barker: pay Mark Kreidel: want Robert Barker: for Mark Kreidel: a Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: rechargeable Robert Barker: rechargeable? Mark Kreidel: one? I'm not sure, you should find out if Marcel Jessup: Th uh Mark Kreidel: it's if rechargeable is important. Marcel Jessup: there was not a el ask esque Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Ray Harju: These are uh comfort issues. Marcel Jessup: But Ray Harju: So I think people will pay they wanted to pay for comfort. Well, this Mark Kreidel: They want Ray Harju: is Mark Kreidel: to Ray Harju: comfort. Mark Kreidel: pay for comfort, we just assu we we could either make a separate Marcel Jessup: But f Mark Kreidel: station which Marcel Jessup: hmm. Mark Kreidel: just sends a signal to the remote control to either beep or flash Ray Harju: Yes. Mark Kreidel: to find it, um and Yeah, we have to either that Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: or make it integrated with a with a docking Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: station. Ray Harju: Exactly. I think this is a brilliant product. I would buy Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: it myself. Mark Kreidel: think it would be good actually. I like the beep Ray Harju: Uh. Mark Kreidel: part anyway. So um let's go Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: through Ray Harju: like Mark Kreidel: the Ray Harju: the covers. That's a brilliant idea. Robert Barker: Can can we Ray Harju: I never Robert Barker: save Ray Harju: thought Mark Kreidel: Covers Robert Barker: this Mark Kreidel: is Robert Barker: or Mark Kreidel: covers is good. Yeah, it's Oh we can save this. Up and saved. We even saved the ant. Um Okay. So what we have is you have I think you have to do a lot of work on if it's possible for the cost. Ray Harju: I hope if I have information about Mark Kreidel: Maybe Ray Harju: that, I'm gonna Mark Kreidel: yeah, or Robert Barker: Yeah. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: maybe you can find out i what people are willing to pay. We are going for twenty five Euros Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: sales Marcel Jessup: okay. Mark Kreidel: price, but just try to find out what they're willing to pay for Marcel Jessup: Yeah Mark Kreidel: it, because Marcel Jessup: yeah yeah. Mark Kreidel: if they're willing to pay more, we could lose a little profit and maybe attract Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: more customers, uh we Ray Harju: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: just have to Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: see what it looks like. Ray Harju: I would like to make a decision. What it costs and what kind of materials that we can uh choose what we want Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: in Mark Kreidel: if Ray Harju: it Mark Kreidel: you have Ray Harju: and Mark Kreidel: some financial information that Ray Harju: exactly, I need it. Mark Kreidel: that'd be nice, so. Hmm. Robert Barker: Could you post some other essentials of what people want, so that I can work with some buttons, where to put it Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: You seem to have information on that, I'd like to uh see some of it. Ray Harju: Was it not possible to uh send emails around the office? Mark Kreidel: No, it wasn't Robert Barker: No, Mark Kreidel: wasn't Robert Barker: it's not. Mark Kreidel: allo Ray Harju: Not. Mark Kreidel: it was possible, not Robert Barker: No. Mark Kreidel: allowed, so. So that's Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: um why I'm not sure that you're allowed to share Marcel Jessup: My computer Mark Kreidel: documents Marcel Jessup: crashed, Mark Kreidel: on the on the draft. Marcel Jessup: so Ray Harju: Yeah, Marcel Jessup: uh Ray Harju: okay. Mark Kreidel: I don't care. Marcel Jessup: I Mark Kreidel: I Marcel Jessup: lost Robert Barker: Oh, your computer. Mark Kreidel: haven't Marcel Jessup: my Mark Kreidel: heard Marcel Jessup: uh Mark Kreidel: any Marcel Jessup: presentation, Mark Kreidel: complaints Robert Barker: Okay. Mark Kreidel: yet, so. Marcel Jessup: but Mark Kreidel: Um Marcel Jessup: I have the uh Robert Barker: Well, I have your PowerPoint presentation, I can get some Marcel Jessup: Yeah, but Robert Barker: inf Marcel Jessup: I Robert Barker: information out of that. Marcel Jessup: Here I have the Robert Barker: Let's see. Marcel Jessup: the s the homepage of uh our internet, Mark Kreidel: Yeah, the Marcel Jessup: and Mark Kreidel: oh, Marcel Jessup: here Mark Kreidel: they Marcel Jessup: is Mark Kreidel: inc Marcel Jessup: my Mark Kreidel: uh they include the new one. Or Robert Barker: Oh, Mark Kreidel: just Robert Barker: where Mark Kreidel: for you. Robert Barker: would we Marcel Jessup: here is my marketing report, maybe you ca Mark Kreidel: Oh Marcel Jessup: you Mark Kreidel: no, Marcel Jessup: can Mark Kreidel: I didn't Marcel Jessup: look Mark Kreidel: have Marcel Jessup: at Mark Kreidel: that. Marcel Jessup: uh that and Robert Barker: Where would we want the uh teletext Marcel Jessup: Ah yeah. Robert Barker: button? Because we Marcel Jessup: And Robert Barker: decided Mark Kreidel: All Marcel Jessup: one Mark Kreidel: it tells Robert Barker: that Mark Kreidel: just Robert Barker: it's n not that important. Mark Kreidel: let's Robert Barker: Do we Mark Kreidel: make Robert Barker: put Mark Kreidel: make Robert Barker: it Mark Kreidel: a new Robert Barker: somewhere Mark Kreidel: tick Robert Barker: over Mark Kreidel: the new Robert Barker: here? Mark Kreidel: one. Um other side. Yeah, let's increase it a little because Marcel Jessup: And uh wha what people Robert Barker: Or Marcel Jessup: want, Robert Barker: maybe this is something for the next meeting, Marcel Jessup: I've Robert Barker: I can Marcel Jessup: uh Robert Barker: draw out some Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Robert Barker: ideas. Mark Kreidel: draw us up some some designs of of Marcel Jessup: I Mark Kreidel: possible Marcel Jessup: have another thing Mark Kreidel: just Marcel Jessup: uh Mark Kreidel: keep in mind that the important buttons should be on top Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: and either big, so the Robert Barker: Well, Mark Kreidel: more Robert Barker: we have Mark Kreidel: less important Robert Barker: decided more or less the Mark Kreidel: More Robert Barker: basic Mark Kreidel: or less. Robert Barker: structure. I can put the other buttons Mark Kreidel: Just Robert Barker: in Mark Kreidel: play a little with this, put l shift a little up Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: or down and we'll see what looks best. Ray Harju: What uh what did you wanna say? Mark Kreidel: Or Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: just po post your Marcel Jessup: Um Mark Kreidel: designs from time to time on the Robert Barker: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: product share. Marcel Jessup: Uh what I al already said is the Robert Barker: Maybe Marcel Jessup: the uh Robert Barker: another idea Marcel Jessup: the remote controls Robert Barker: uh. Marcel Jessup: are always lost, but it it's also for people, they want to learn it fast, not uh Ray Harju: Mm. Marcel Jessup: they Ray Harju: Mm. Marcel Jessup: want to Mark Kreidel: Yeah, so we don't want we want very Marcel Jessup: No Mark Kreidel: little buttons, just the buttons Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: you use a lot. Marcel Jessup: It's yeah, it's easy to learn Robert Barker: Yes, but Marcel Jessup: wi Robert Barker: it Marcel Jessup: and Robert Barker: should Marcel Jessup: uh Robert Barker: cover all the functions, so possibly, Mark Kreidel: Well what Robert Barker: just an Marcel Jessup: Um Robert Barker: idea that Mark Kreidel: we had Robert Barker: popped Mark Kreidel: function Robert Barker: in Mark Kreidel: that what people do, so. People change channels, people they change the volume and they they change channel, they turn T_V_ off and on, for example. That's the basic fu that's what you do I'm not sure who present that again, but those are the basic function that people use it for, so those should be very well represented. Robert Barker: Yeah, Marcel Jessup: And Robert Barker: but we could go a step further, because some T_V_s have the uh possibility Marcel Jessup: The Robert Barker: to adjust brightness, Marcel Jessup: If Robert Barker: that kind of menus. Mark Kreidel: That's true, but that's what we stick under the menu button. Everything is you Robert Barker: Yes, Mark Kreidel: say in Robert Barker: but Mark Kreidel: every Robert Barker: it Mark Kreidel: T_V_ that's configured under the menu. Ray Harju: But Robert Barker: Because Ray Harju: that's the question, Robert Barker: we're making Ray Harju: is Marcel Jessup: Um Ray Harju: it? Because it needs to be configured in the television under the menu. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but Ray Harju: If it isn't, then we cannot reach it. Robert Barker: We need to adjust Mark Kreidel: But Robert Barker: to Mark Kreidel: I think Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: most modern T_V_s Robert Barker: technology. Mark Kreidel: have it Ray Harju: I think Mark Kreidel: in Ray Harju: so Mark Kreidel: their Ray Harju: too. Mark Kreidel: menu. Ray Harju: I think Robert Barker: True. Ray Harju: so too. Uh isn't there a possibility to do research on that, so we know that for sure? If you rule out functions, then uh and that gets known, then people are not gonna buy it. Then the Robert Barker: No, Ray Harju: consumer Robert Barker: I thi Ray Harju: bond or something says uh you cannot do this and that with it. Marcel Jessup: If um Ray Harju: That's a bad bad com commercial Mark Kreidel: Uh we'll Ray Harju: for Mark Kreidel: we'll see what we can come up with. Marcel Jessup: Another Ray Harju: okay. Marcel Jessup: thing I want to say is that uh we are looking at the market for the age uh Mark Kreidel: Under Marcel Jessup: younger Mark Kreidel: forty. Marcel Jessup: than forty. Mark Kreidel: Yeah? Ray Harju: That's true. Marcel Jessup: Um on my report, I didn't uh ish I didn't show it in my uh presentation, Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Marcel Jessup: because my computer crashed. Mark Kreidel: Yeah yeah. Marcel Jessup: Um they want to pay for an L_C_D_ screen Ray Harju: Hmm. Marcel Jessup: and speech recognition. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: The want to Marcel Jessup: So Mark Kreidel: pay for Oh. Ray Harju: Did they really said Marcel Jessup: i Ray Harju: it like that? Marcel Jessup: yeah. Ray Harju: Those two things. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, and Ray Harju: Do they realise Mark Kreidel: Uh Ray Harju: how Mark Kreidel: shall Ray Harju: much Mark Kreidel: we? Ray Harju: that costs? That's Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: almost undoable. Robert Barker: Oh, Mark Kreidel: Younger, Robert Barker: we're not going Mark Kreidel: age Robert Barker: to be able Marcel Jessup: Uh Mark Kreidel: sixteen Robert Barker: to sell it Mark Kreidel: and Robert Barker: for Mark Kreidel: forty Robert Barker: twenty-five Marcel Jessup: but Mark Kreidel: five. Robert Barker: then, with Mark Kreidel: That's Robert Barker: an L_C_D_ Mark Kreidel: all here, here Robert Barker: screen. Mark Kreidel: it says Ray Harju: No, that's that's. Even if i if Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Ray Harju: we have Mark Kreidel: age Ray Harju: this Marcel Jessup: If Mark Kreidel: sixteen Marcel Jessup: if Ray Harju: lost Mark Kreidel: forty Marcel Jessup: they Ray Harju: unit, Mark Kreidel: fi interest Ray Harju: then Mark Kreidel: in main features Ray Harju: we Mark Kreidel: more Ray Harju: cannot Mark Kreidel: critical. Ray Harju: do it for that price. Mark Kreidel: Okay, so we're not focusing on this. Um All the interest in features, not really the L_C_ oh here. Would you pay for uh speech recognition in a remote control. Hmm, okay? Ray Harju: Yeah, that's true. Marcel Jessup: So uh we can Mark Kreidel: Speech recognition is Marcel Jessup: We Mark Kreidel: quite Marcel Jessup: can look at the possibilities for an uh L_C_D_ and uh Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, just look Marcel Jessup: I Mark Kreidel: at Marcel Jessup: dunno. Mark Kreidel: the possibilities Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: then, because if apparently Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: it's what people want, Marcel Jessup: How Mark Kreidel: it's Marcel Jessup: much it Mark Kreidel: supposed Marcel Jessup: will cost Mark Kreidel: to be a luxurious Ray Harju: Uh. Marcel Jessup: and Mark Kreidel: remote, maybe it's not even that expensive. Or find a compromise, maybe just a black and white Ray Harju: Uh Mark Kreidel: or Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: for some extra Marcel Jessup: Um Mark Kreidel: information Robert Barker: Well Mark Kreidel: on it, Robert Barker: I doubt it, but Ray Harju: But Mark Kreidel: on your Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: programmes. Ray Harju: really need finance information. Mark Kreidel: Marcel Jessup too. I mean we all do. Ray Harju: We all do. Marcel Jessup: It Mark Kreidel: Right. Marcel Jessup: will come uh Mark Kreidel: I think it's something we should put into consideration. Apparently it's what people want, so. Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: We should see if what it costs, if it's possible. Ray Harju: Uh. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Yeah, we should do a little thing about design, because it looks boring really to Marcel Jessup. Even if you put it even if you put a different cover on it, it looks still Marcel Jessup: Different Mark Kreidel: looks boring, Marcel Jessup: colours Mark Kreidel: so. Ray Harju: Hmm. Marcel Jessup: maybe. Ray Harju: And the design, Marcel Jessup: But Ray Harju: it should differ. This Marcel Jessup: all Ray Harju: is Philips, huh? Philips has Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: this. Mark Kreidel: have no clue. Robert Barker: Well, Mark Kreidel: I just Robert Barker: I had basically Mark Kreidel: drew something what Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: which would fit into your hand easily. Ray Harju: Hmm. Uh. Robert Barker: Something like this. To make it kind of futuristic. Ray Harju: Mm. Oh, I realise if we make it small, then it needs to be a little thicker, Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: because Mark Kreidel: think Ray Harju: I Mark Kreidel: it's Ray Harju: need Mark Kreidel: a Ray Harju: to Mark Kreidel: very Ray Harju: put all the electronics in it. Mark Kreidel: Sorry? Ray Harju: If we make it s uh smaller, uh less wide, Mark Kreidel: Yeah? Ray Harju: then we need to m make it a little thicker, because I have to put all the electronics Mark Kreidel: Okay. Ray Harju: in it. Mark Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Yeah, but you have Marcel Jessup: Okay. Mark Kreidel: to j just keep in mind it shouldn't be too heavy. I mean we can stick it in in there, I think. Ray Harju: No. Mark Kreidel: Huh Robert Barker: So what Mark Kreidel: even Robert Barker: kind Mark Kreidel: if Robert Barker: of Mark Kreidel: in the worst case we can even Could you give Marcel Jessup the pen back? Robert Barker: Yeah, sure. Mark Kreidel: So let's say that people would want an L_C_D_ thing. Let's take take the basic design again, what we oh, crap uh came up with. I'll just make it a little bigger now. So a transmitter here. Anyway. We could let's say we have an L_C_D_ screen, people want an L_C_D_ screen. So then we should probably put it here. It doesn't have to be really big, but Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: just just have to be has to be there. Think it's a good place, people don't Marcel Jessup: If you're reading from top to bottom, I think it's better to put it uh at Mark Kreidel: No? Marcel Jessup: the top. Mark Kreidel: It's not that Ray Harju: Marcel Jessup Mark Kreidel: uh it's Marcel Jessup: It's Ray Harju: too. Mark Kreidel: not Marcel Jessup: j Mark Kreidel: the most important function, it's just Ray Harju: Ah Mark Kreidel: an extra thing, it just Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: you press the buttons Ray Harju: but. Mark Kreidel: on top, because Marcel Jessup: But Mark Kreidel: your Marcel Jessup: i Mark Kreidel: finger is Marcel Jessup: if Mark Kreidel: on top. Marcel Jessup: you if you are going to uh put the L_C_D_ on it, I think it's very important to use it, uh because it's use it uh Mark Kreidel: How can you use an L_C_D_ screen? Marcel Jessup: But nee the function of it. So you can use it maximum, because uh it's a lot it costs a lot. So Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but why I I'm Robert Barker: Now Mark Kreidel: not sure. Robert Barker: it's pretty much tucked away in your hand. Mark Kreidel: Uh if you t Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: if you press a button, you can see it, ri I'm not sure wha I'm trying to imagine myself Ray Harju: No. Mark Kreidel: what it would look like. Ray Harju: M I Robert Barker: I'm Ray Harju: personally would prefer it on the top. Mark Kreidel: You would prefer Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: it n Okay. Ray Harju: Huh. Mark Kreidel: So we have three people saying it should be on top. Okay, Ray Harju: But Mark Kreidel: but then Ray Harju: it Mark Kreidel: you would would s have to stack away your buttons somewhere else. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Anyways. Marcel Jessup: It's expensive to build it, so Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: Uh this Marcel Jessup: you Robert Barker: I'm Mark Kreidel: looks Marcel Jessup: must Robert Barker: still Mark Kreidel: a little Robert Barker: not Marcel Jessup: use Robert Barker: convinced Marcel Jessup: the maximum Robert Barker: of Marcel Jessup: of it. Robert Barker: the Mark Kreidel: About the L_C_D_s thing. Robert Barker: Yeah. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: Well if it if it's if it's possible wi Ray Harju: They Mark Kreidel: if Ray Harju: want Mark Kreidel: it's Ray Harju: it uh. Mark Kreidel: not too expensive, we should include it, because it's it's cool. Ray Harju: We should just try to make that if it's possible. If it is possible we should really do it, but we need that information. Marcel Jessup: Huh. Uh. Ray Harju: Also Marcel Jessup: But Ray Harju: keep in mind Marcel Jessup: uh Ray Harju: again, the L_C_D_ screen is very flat, but it needs transistors, resistors, I don't know what more and that needs space. So I have to look if that's possible. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, I know uh. Ray Harju: But if Robert Barker: So basically Ray Harju: we Robert Barker: can I Mark Kreidel: Uh we have Robert Barker: what Mark Kreidel: green Robert Barker: we have Mark Kreidel: now Robert Barker: to decide Mark Kreidel: uh Robert Barker: now is uh what goes on top. Do we put the volume control and the channel control here, or do we put it on he Would we like Marcel Jessup: In Robert Barker: to press Marcel Jessup: middle Mark Kreidel: Or Marcel Jessup: of Mark Kreidel: maybe Robert Barker: it Marcel Jessup: it. Mark Kreidel: we should m Robert Barker: in the Mark Kreidel: we Robert Barker: middle? Mark Kreidel: could uh draw Marcel Jessup: In the middle. Mark Kreidel: draw something a bit that has it on on on the bottom. Maybe in a circle for example, like we like in this example. I think this is not good, but for we could make circular buttons for example. Ray Harju: Hmm. Mark Kreidel: For up Robert Barker: Yes, Mark Kreidel: and Robert Barker: but Mark Kreidel: down, Robert Barker: we Mark Kreidel: ma Robert Barker: do agree Mark Kreidel: make Robert Barker: that Mark Kreidel: it a circle Robert Barker: we Mark Kreidel: on it, because it Robert Barker: keep this at the centre, because it's basically Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Robert Barker: the most important Mark Kreidel: I think the channel Marcel Jessup: It's the Mark Kreidel: button Marcel Jessup: most Robert Barker: function. Mark Kreidel: should Marcel Jessup: import Mark Kreidel: be in the centre. Marcel Jessup: yeah. Mark Kreidel: Channel button should be st stick together, for example here in this section. Because it's Robert Barker: Well, that Mark Kreidel: uh Robert Barker: would make them quite small. Mark Kreidel: We're not sure Robert Barker: So maybe Mark Kreidel: about the size Robert Barker: you'd put Mark Kreidel: anyway, Robert Barker: them here. Mark Kreidel: just a general design. You can make it as big as you want. For example if Robert Barker: Yes, Mark Kreidel: you take Robert Barker: but a big remote Mark Kreidel: uh Robert Barker: control probably not something which Ray Harju: Hmm. Robert Barker: people Mark Kreidel: No, Robert Barker: would like. Mark Kreidel: let's see. For example Ray Harju: If Mark Kreidel: just Ray Harju: we have a a space issue, we can also lose one battery. It is rechargeable, so we can stick with one instead Mark Kreidel: Yeah. Ray Harju: of two. That Mark Kreidel: I Ray Harju: might Mark Kreidel: don't Ray Harju: be Mark Kreidel: think Ray Harju: an option. Mark Kreidel: if we if we even use an L_C_D_ screen, we need to, definitely. Ray Harju: Yeah, but if we need two batteries and an L_C_D_ screen, that means a lot of space that we need. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, but Ray Harju: But it Mark Kreidel: we Ray Harju: has Mark Kreidel: have Ray Harju: to be a little Mark Kreidel: to Ray Harju: bit Mark Kreidel: see what Ray Harju: heavier. Mark Kreidel: the si what the size is. Ray Harju: Okay. Mark Kreidel: The L_C_D_ doesn't have to nee doesn't need to be very big. Ray Harju: No, but the things behind it. space. Mark Kreidel: Mm let's see. Ray Harju: Like Marcel Jessup: Finish Ray Harju: a process uh. Marcel Jessup: meeting now. It's Mark Kreidel: Finish Marcel Jessup: on Mark Kreidel: meeting Marcel Jessup: your computer. Mark Kreidel: now. Okay, we will. Robert Barker: So would Mark Kreidel: So Robert Barker: we Mark Kreidel: either Robert Barker: like this or would we like the Mark Kreidel: We either we have to decide what Ray Harju: I like Mark Kreidel: what Ray Harju: this Mark Kreidel: people Ray Harju: one Mark Kreidel: want. Ray Harju: more. Mark Kreidel: Either this one, this this could be the luxurious one. So we have channel buttons here. I'm just drawing something uh. Uh I think this would this would look cool. You could have it for example small Marcel Jessup: Uh. Mark Kreidel: buttons here for some extra functions, so if your basic function's here, we should like we decided before, programmes up and down, Ray Harju: Mm. Mark Kreidel: and Robert Barker: Let's Marcel Jessup: Or Mark Kreidel: volume Robert Barker: see Mark Kreidel: here. Robert Barker: what we have here. Marcel Jessup: And uh what about speech recognition uh Mark Kreidel: Well you can just no, I'm not Marcel Jessup: Yeah, Mark Kreidel: sure if we can do that, but Marcel Jessup: yeah, Mark Kreidel: we could Marcel Jessup: but Mark Kreidel: put a microphone Marcel Jessup: or Mark Kreidel: in Marcel Jessup: or Mark Kreidel: here Marcel Jessup: an Mark Kreidel: for Marcel Jessup: L_C_D_ Mark Kreidel: example. Marcel Jessup: or an uh speech. Ray Harju: Mm. Marcel Jessup: I think it's L_C_D_ is better now. Mark Kreidel: Just to do research into both, w what it costs and what it Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Mark Kreidel: takes for space. Ray Harju: I'll try Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: to. Mark Kreidel: But let's cut the meeting for now Ray Harju: One more Mark Kreidel: yes. Ray Harju: uh thing I'd like to say, uh let's give this uh a name, and not like some vague serial number that no one understands, like Robert Barker: Okay. Ray Harju: with cars. Marcel Jessup: Yeah, okay, Ray Harju: Shall we Marcel Jessup: yeah, Ray Harju: all try uh to think about a name? Robert Barker: So I think Marcel Jessup: that's Robert Barker: of a name. Marcel Jessup: yeah, that's Mark Kreidel: Yeah, Marcel Jessup: okay. Mark Kreidel: let's think of a name, okay. Uh okay. Marcel Jessup: Oh, good. Mark Kreidel: Okay, at anyways, Robert Barker: So Mark Kreidel: the the minutes will be on the on the web shortly, so there we go Robert Barker: Yes, Mark Kreidel: uh. Robert Barker: go and finish up and I'll see you at lunch. Marcel Jessup: Yeah. Ray Harju: Good luck. Mark Kreidel: Yeah, to all. Marcel Jessup: Same. Robert Barker: Yeah. Ray Harju: Yeah, I've Do we uh save the?	Customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes. They like innovative technology like speech recognition and LCD screens. It also transpires that remotes are easy to lose. Everyone agreed that they need to incorporate a locating mechanism in their design, and that changeable covers could make appealing-looking remotes. The need for clarity of button functions was mentioned. On the other hand, materials should be more durable. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. There are some new requirements: the target group will be people below 40, the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. They drew some of their ideas, and discussed the positioning of the buttons and the LCD. The most used buttons are going to be placed on top. It might be possible to use a charger for the remote. The concept of the design will be finalised in the next meeting.	3	amisum	train
Joseph Greene: Can Derek Robson: Uh Joseph Greene: I close this? Derek Robson: we don't have any changes, do we So? Joseph Greene: Oh, Derek Robson: no. Joseph Greene: okay. Joseph Greene: There we go. Okay, here we are again. Detailed design oh, come on. Well Ah s Forgot to insert the minutes, but it's about the same thing we discussed before. Uh Could open that anyway, think. Joseph Greene: Other design anyway, we took as we took w we took rubber as as the material last time. We also that you're just busy with it. Took the advanced chip to t implement the advanced features. Well, we discussed the design, no sharp corners, we rounded it off, like you see on the other screen, which is fine. Um we agreed that the colour should be b uh yellow and black. Yellow in the back because it's m trendy, more trendy than black anyway. So then we ca yeah. We agreed that we would implement both the L_C_D_ and speech recognition, but I'll get to that in a moment. 'Cause some changes in the finances have left us implications anyway. So so, Robert Smith: Hmm. Joseph Greene: like I said, we had no insight in finances, no prices, but we have 'em now, and it's bad. Anyway. We are Oh. Prototype presentation, well first you guys built the prototype. So you could could present that. But um let's see what be handy to do. Nee no, you just go ahead and present the w we'll scrap it later because Adolph Lyons: I think it's more or less the as we had. Joseph Greene: What? Derek Robson: It's basically Robert Smith: Hmm? Derek Robson: what we agreed upon, Joseph Greene: Oh Derek Robson: but just Joseph Greene: that's Derek Robson: a little bit Adolph Lyons: No much Derek Robson: more specified. Adolph Lyons: s Joseph Greene: hasn't changed that much, huh? Adolph Lyons: No no no, not at Joseph Greene: I Adolph Lyons: all. Joseph Greene: didn't expect anyway. You just coloured it. Derek Robson: Uh s Final design. Derek Robson: Basically in what we discussed, cover and buttons will be made of rubber, yellow colour, black components, as you can see right over here. Joseph Greene: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: We Joseph Greene: I like the menu. Derek Robson: chose a different type of colour for the menu. A bit darker yellow so that it com really shows in this keypad. Joseph Greene: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: If you black, it's really that good a contrast. So Joseph Greene: And I suppose the the the yellow is not printed on the on the rubber. It's it's part of the rubber, I suppose. Derek Robson: Probab Yeah. Joseph Greene: I think that's more Derek Robson: That's Joseph Greene: I think Derek Robson: the be Joseph Greene: that's more durable anyway than Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: printed on to Derek Robson: And it I guess it's more easier to just paint Adolph Lyons: Yeah, of course. Derek Robson: it on the rubber than to uh Robert Smith: Mm Adolph Lyons: That's Robert Smith: yeah. Adolph Lyons: uh the integration story again. Robert Smith: Okay. Derek Robson: So we Joseph Greene: Oh Derek Robson: have Joseph Greene: yeah. Derek Robson: it's a bit round shaped, that's what we had uh We chose the buttons to be uh teletext, okay button, favourite channel and the mute. Joseph Greene: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: So that's basically what we chose there. Joseph Greene: Okay. Derek Robson: If you have anything to add, please interrupt Adolph Lyons: No, Derek Robson: Robert Smith. Adolph Lyons: uh this is just a description of what we see there. So Joseph Greene: Yeah. Robert Smith: Yeah Derek Robson: Oh. Adolph Lyons: Speaks for itself. Derek Robson: That's pretty much it. Joseph Greene: Okay. Now it's my time to ruin everything. Well, not ruin everything, but Derek Robson: Oh Joseph Greene: no, Derek Robson: sorry. Joseph Greene: nah. Finances, that's what we have here, what you drew. We have battery power, we have advanced chips and the sam the sensor. The sample sensor and uh for speak recognition anyway. So which you see the which is de o one of the most expensive parts. So well, we have sin one curve, a design. Rubber design. And we had a special colour. Suppose yellow is a special colour. So just half a Euro for You have pushbuttons and an L_C_D_ display. You have the total of seventeen Euros in Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: production cost, which is higher than the twelve and a half that we are permitted to use. So, Robert Smith: Hmm. Joseph Greene: easy. What do we scrap. Well Adolph Lyons: I Joseph Greene: think Adolph Lyons: d Joseph Greene: I had the best solution that I came up with is just to s take out the speech recognition. Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Derek Robson: I'd say that Joseph Greene: Because Derek Robson: too. Joseph Greene: the L_C_D_ has more support on customer Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: side. There are ninety one percent of uh the people, or something like that. But ninety percent who favour an L_C_D_ display, and only sixty percent that favour speech recognition. I think it's Derek Robson: Uh we don't Joseph Greene: also Derek Robson: really Joseph Greene: harder Derek Robson: have Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: to. Derek Robson: a extra function with the speech sample, which you can't do with a normal Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Derek Robson: remote control, which people already do. So Joseph Greene: So I ju I took that out. So and so it's still stuck with thirteen, so I had to take out the special colour I suppose. And, yeah, I didn't see anything else I could take out. Yeah, Robert Smith: Pushbut Joseph Greene: I could take out the push-buttons, but we need those. Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: So, Robert Smith: Special colour, Joseph Greene: generally Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: what I came up with, in order to be cou to to have production cost of twelve and a half Euros, spe scrap speech recognition and the separate covers can account for the if people want it, we'll just then we'll do it in black. We'll just deliver it in black, have the it has all the function that it's supposed to have, and if you want it if you want the custom design, then you can buy the separate covers. You Derek Robson: Well, Joseph Greene: make it Derek Robson: I'd Joseph Greene: d orange Derek Robson: I tend Joseph Greene: or whatever Derek Robson: to Joseph Greene: you want. Derek Robson: disagree with you on that, because the trend issue was a big issue when Joseph Greene: It Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: was Derek Robson: started Joseph Greene: a big Derek Robson: designing Joseph Greene: issue, but Derek Robson: this. So can't we just Joseph Greene: I'll Derek Robson: basically Joseph Greene: just go back. Uh let's Derek Robson: extend Joseph Greene: just let's Derek Robson: it Joseph Greene: see Derek Robson: to Joseph Greene: what Derek Robson: thirteen? Joseph Greene: okay, let's just see what we no, we we have to be Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: under Robert Smith: it Joseph Greene: twelve and a half. It Robert Smith: The Joseph Greene: it's Robert Smith: p Joseph Greene: not uh Adolph Lyons: Okay, Joseph Greene: the project Adolph Lyons: but there's Joseph Greene: is a Adolph Lyons: another Joseph Greene: no-go Robert Smith: And Adolph Lyons: problem. Joseph Greene: if Robert Smith: the Joseph Greene: we Robert Smith: p Joseph Greene: go over twelve and a half, Derek Robson: Okay. Joseph Greene: so. Adolph Lyons: But there's another Robert Smith: What Adolph Lyons: problem. we take cover, for instance black, then we need button, 'cause black and black doesn't work obviously. Joseph Greene: I think you that's what you were ass assigned to do really, to Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: to see how b th both those work together. Adolph Lyons: Huh. Yeah. Joseph Greene: So I think yeah, it's I think it's y one of the it's a good way to um to help people Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: uh to make to keep the product trendy too. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: Just keep you just make new covers for the for Adolph Lyons: Right. Joseph Greene: it, like we agreed before. Adolph Lyons: I agree. Joseph Greene: And everything that's left is is the basic function that uh that we want our product to have. Because the expensive parts are in either the advanced chip. But we need that for the L_C_D_ Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: display. Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: We do. Joseph Greene: Then again, we have the L_C_D_ display, which is also expensive. B yeah, but those go together. And yeah, we could take out the curve. Adolph Lyons: Or say let's Derek Robson: We Adolph Lyons: lose Derek Robson: could take Adolph Lyons: rubber, Derek Robson: out Adolph Lyons: take Derek Robson: a Adolph Lyons: plastic. Derek Robson: curve indeed. Joseph Greene: Could we could take out the curve. Is that an option? Adolph Lyons: Yes. Joseph Greene: you? Adolph Lyons: Although Robert Smith: But uh Adolph Lyons: we are Derek Robson: I Adolph Lyons: demolishing Derek Robson: think the colour Adolph Lyons: a Robert Smith: the Adolph Lyons: little Derek Robson: is Adolph Lyons: bit Derek Robson: more Adolph Lyons: the style. Derek Robson: important than Adolph Lyons: But Derek Robson: the Robert Smith: and Joseph Greene: Yeah. Derek Robson: really the curve, because if you just end up with an entirely black remote Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: I think Derek Robson: control Joseph Greene: it's it it Robert Smith: The Joseph Greene: does Robert Smith: people Joseph Greene: ruin it, but Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: the fact that I t took that decision or t Took this example actually, not really decision, but the example is because we do offer the um the possibility of adding your own custom covers. So you can change any colour you want. So it's just you deliver a basic remote control with a possibility to change you into whatever you want. Adolph Lyons: Can we then not also uh change the material? We take plastic for the basic cover Joseph Greene: You can take Adolph Lyons: and Joseph Greene: plastic, but I d it's something that's stuck into my mind is that something that really came forward from the marketing research is that people like the the the the squishy Robert Smith: Spongy, Joseph Greene: feeling of Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: the spongy feeling of the Adolph Lyons: We can put Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: and Adolph Lyons: those Joseph Greene: it really Adolph Lyons: to the Joseph Greene: makes it Adolph Lyons: to the other covers. Joseph Greene: also makes it different from the existing remote controls, Robert Smith: And Joseph Greene: because they're all plastic. Adolph Lyons: That's Joseph Greene: So Adolph Lyons: true. Joseph Greene: which in in turn Rubber would increase Adolph Lyons: But Joseph Greene: durability Adolph Lyons: okay. Joseph Greene: because it doesn't break. Adolph Lyons: But what do you then suggest we'd lose? Because we have to lose two things and I Joseph Greene: I Adolph Lyons: guess. Joseph Greene: al like I said, Robert Smith: But Joseph Greene: I lost the speech recognition Adolph Lyons: Yes. Joseph Greene: and I lost the special colour, which would make this Adolph Lyons: Okay, and that's enough? Joseph Greene: black a black and grey. Yeah, that's that that that's enough, Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: because Derek Robson: black and grey is okay. Joseph Greene: I guess those are the Robert Smith: But Joseph Greene: basic colours. So Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Derek Robson: Which we can Joseph Greene: Oh. Derek Robson: fabricate, okay. Robert Smith: The Joseph Greene: I think those Robert Smith: people Joseph Greene: are basic col Robert Smith: want to pay for for it, so Joseph Greene: They want Robert Smith: why Joseph Greene: to Robert Smith: why uh do we have to keep us uh uh um Joseph Greene: To Robert Smith: on Joseph Greene: ensure Robert Smith: the twelve Joseph Greene: the profit. Robert Smith: and a half? Joseph Greene: That that's th that's the order. We're just uh we're the project team and we got our our orders from the pro from Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: the boss of our company which say we don't Robert Smith: But Joseph Greene: wanna Robert Smith: we Joseph Greene: spend Robert Smith: can Joseph Greene: more Robert Smith: take Joseph Greene: than Robert Smith: a risk. Joseph Greene: twelve fifty for this. But that's not for our that's not our decision to take. Derek Robson: No, we Joseph Greene: We have Derek Robson: basically Joseph Greene: a budget Robert Smith: yeah Joseph Greene: of twelve fifty Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: per product. Derek Robson: We Joseph Greene: So Derek Robson: need to stick to that. Joseph Greene: Stick that. I don't think it's really bad either. I mean if we we have the the backup of or the backup design thing Robert Smith: I hope the people will like it, but Joseph Greene: to have I think they would do. Th I think they do like because yo we you we agree upon that the that the the the cover thing was a nice idea, because p you could have all sort of designs while at the same time just manufacturing one product, Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: one basic product which you could turn into any any taste you want. So I think it's the best solution Adolph Lyons: Perhaps Joseph Greene: to Adolph Lyons: we should Joseph Greene: make Adolph Lyons: make Joseph Greene: those Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: cu custom Adolph Lyons: m Joseph Greene: covers for the design aspect Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: and keep the functionality between of within the th the boundaries of the your f uh your Robert Smith: The first sheet. Joseph Greene: budget. So Adolph Lyons: Perhaps we should make clear to our customer that we had to do this to stay under the cost. And that's uh they know that this is an option and that we had to drop the option to stay under the cost, that they know that. Joseph Greene: Well I don't think Yeah. Adolph Lyons: Perhaps they Joseph Greene: Is it Adolph Lyons: decide Joseph Greene: worth Derek Robson: But they Joseph Greene: is Adolph Lyons: tha Derek Robson: don't Joseph Greene: it is it does it mean anything to the customer? Like, it like, Adolph Lyons: Of course. Joseph Greene: we don't Adolph Lyons: Perhaps Joseph Greene: care Adolph Lyons: they Joseph Greene: we don't Adolph Lyons: uh Joseph Greene: care that you had to Adolph Lyons: no, but perhaps they think uh okay, the cover is such a nice idea, uh let's that that then they uh that allow us to make some more costs. We ca we uh we Joseph Greene: True, Adolph Lyons: can at least Joseph Greene: but Adolph Lyons: tell Joseph Greene: we did Adolph Lyons: them Joseph Greene: we Adolph Lyons: that Joseph Greene: didn't get that. So Adolph Lyons: You don't know Joseph Greene: I Adolph Lyons: that. Joseph Greene: think it's it should either be a pack, Derek Robson: Well Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: maybe we sh that should be sold in in the s in stores with with a standard cover or something. Adolph Lyons: No, I'm not Joseph Greene: But Adolph Lyons: uh talking about that cost but the one that g has given us the order to design this. We could at least m uh make it like Joseph Greene: They could, Adolph Lyons: this, Joseph Greene: but Adolph Lyons: like Joseph Greene: uh Adolph Lyons: you said, and then tell them okay, we had to drop this and that, just that you know. It is an still an option, but Joseph Greene: It's Adolph Lyons: not Joseph Greene: an option, Adolph Lyons: for this Joseph Greene: but Adolph Lyons: price. Joseph Greene: yeah, it's true. So actually uh it's not that much of an increase, but yeah. Derek Robson: And Joseph Greene: We Derek Robson: if Joseph Greene: cannot Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: contact them. It's just Adolph Lyons: Exactly, Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: the order that Adolph Lyons: but Joseph Greene: we got. So that's what we gotta go with. So it's either one fi just just to get it f just to get it through final, it's either turned into plastic, drop the squishy feel, make it make it more Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: breakable, Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: um or turn it yellow. So It's uh something we have to decide on. Adolph Lyons: I'd say lose the curve Joseph Greene: I say Adolph Lyons: and Joseph Greene: lose Adolph Lyons: the colour Joseph Greene: the curve. Adolph Lyons: and Joseph Greene: Oh that's true, we could lose the c yeah, I forgot that, sorry. Uh the curve. So Derek Robson: So which curve is that ba that's basically Joseph Greene: That's just Derek Robson: that Joseph Greene: this Derek Robson: curve. Joseph Greene: one just d this is the banana curve. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: So Robert Smith: that's Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: this Robert Smith: better. Derek Robson: we could Joseph Greene: would Derek Robson: u Joseph Greene: this Derek Robson: still Joseph Greene: would Derek Robson: have Joseph Greene: be straight. Derek Robson: the comfort. Joseph Greene: No, uh no, that would be a curve inside the thing, I guess. No, would ju then it would just be a straight remote. Just like like that. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: Which would, yeah, turn it into something far more ordinary. we could make Derek Robson: I Joseph Greene: it yellow then, but Derek Robson: second that. Joseph Greene: You second that, you second that we lose the curve. Derek Robson: No, that it would turn out to be a pretty straight-forward remote control. Joseph Greene: Okay, Derek Robson: So that's Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: yeah. Derek Robson: not really Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: So I think it Derek Robson: that Joseph Greene: would be a good idea to keep the curve to separate it from the rest of the remote control Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: world, so to speak. So we keep the curve. So Derek Robson: I would Joseph Greene: the only only solution is either to use the l y lose the yellow or lose the rubber. And I'm in favour of keeping the rubber, because it has more Adolph Lyons: Oh. Joseph Greene: more advantages Adolph Lyons: I agree. Joseph Greene: than the colour yellow Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: has. Derek Robson: I would Adolph Lyons: No. Derek Robson: say Robert Smith: Yep. Derek Robson: I would agree with you on the colour, because that's an extra option, an extra service we can deliver for Joseph Greene: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: a little bit of more money. So Joseph Greene: Yeah, um I guess Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: people Derek Robson: can always Joseph Greene: are Derek Robson: do Joseph Greene: willing Derek Robson: that. Joseph Greene: to pay for that. So I think we can Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: take that Adolph Lyons: Hmm? Joseph Greene: option and just with uh with the idea in the back of our head that you can customise your remote control. So Adolph Lyons: Yes. Joseph Greene: I think that would still make it a nice product. Okay, we're final on that. So it's too bad we can't make the whole super thing. But anyways we're here. Um Derek Robson: Which Joseph Greene: yeah. Derek Robson: is basically what we discussed. Joseph Greene: This we discussed just now. That's just now just we could just discuss how the project went. I mean, was kind of Robert Smith: And I want to Joseph Greene: I Robert Smith: do Joseph Greene: sort Robert Smith: that. Joseph Greene: of expected that everything would turn out this way, but because you yeah, everything cannot be for free. We didn't I think it was too bad we didn't have the financial info the last time. Because Derek Robson: Yes, Joseph Greene: that Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: was I th Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: it was Derek Robson: could Joseph Greene: really Derek Robson: have Joseph Greene: essential really to ma because we spent uh uh entire stage designing a product of which we had no idea what Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: it would cost. So we just Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: put something I think it's really nor not in stroke with reality actually. So Adolph Lyons: Robert Smith too, I felt a bit blind throughout the project, because Joseph Greene: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: in the beginning I had no list of Joseph Greene: Yeah, I Adolph Lyons: available Joseph Greene: think Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: would Adolph Lyons: materials, Joseph Greene: have been. Adolph Lyons: and then I d Robert Smith: But Joseph Greene: Materials Adolph Lyons: had not list Joseph Greene: would Adolph Lyons: of Joseph Greene: be Adolph Lyons: available Joseph Greene: ok Adolph Lyons: c finances. Joseph Greene: at least Adolph Lyons: So Joseph Greene: the last meeting I would have expected had to have that. So I suppose Robert Smith: Let's um see um Joseph Greene: Yeah, let's see if it sells. I mean I suppose this sells, Robert Smith: Um Joseph Greene: because it's very very extended. But Derek Robson: Well I hope it Robert Smith: Let's Derek Robson: sells. Robert Smith: Uh Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: I suppose it sells, because it's good. Robert Smith: Oh. Joseph Greene: I mean it's got everything for the for the reasonable price, because we didn't Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: know what it's gonna cost anyway. Robert Smith: Hmm. Okay, let's eval evaluate uh the product of us, our design. Um I have some uh a method, a requirements and scale of. I uh will pre present uh some statements and we will decided together wha what if it's true or false and Joseph Greene: Okay. Robert Smith: uh then we see uh if the requirements of the user Joseph Greene: Have Robert Smith: are Joseph Greene: been Robert Smith: fulfilled Joseph Greene: met, Robert Smith: or not. Joseph Greene: okay. Robert Smith: And I will uh make a new blank sheet. Joseph Greene: Yeah. Robert Smith: So so the buttons, the look and feel. I thought it was okay, but the advanced uh settings, um screen, audio and channel Derek Robson: Which are basically Joseph Greene: They're stuck under menu. Derek Robson: accessible Robert Smith: We are not Derek Robson: through the menu Joseph Greene: For Derek Robson: button. Joseph Greene: the menu. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: I think those are totally met, because Robert Smith: Oh Joseph Greene: we Robert Smith: the menu button Joseph Greene: we really Robert Smith: is Joseph Greene: took Derek Robson: Yeah. Robert Smith: it. Joseph Greene: them for the Robert Smith: Hi Joseph Greene: they Robert Smith: Oh, okay. Joseph Greene: have the feel they want, they have the simplicity they want. Robert Smith: Then it's all uh Joseph Greene: I think it's very uh very well met. Either two Robert Smith: S Joseph Greene: or Adolph Lyons: One. Joseph Greene: one Robert Smith: it's Joseph Greene: maybe. Robert Smith: true. Joseph Greene: I think we took that everything they wanted into consideration. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: So it could either be a two or a one. Robert Smith: So d Oh wait. Joseph Greene: One and a half. Robert Smith: Uh pen. Derek Robson: Which Robert Smith: The Derek Robson: is not Robert Smith: p Derek Robson: an option. Robert Smith: Oh yeah, it's red, Joseph Greene: Just Robert Smith: okay, Joseph Greene: create our Robert Smith: but Joseph Greene: own option. Robert Smith: Look and feel is everybo it's true. Joseph Greene: Yeah. Robert Smith: So Anyone? And the next one uh yeah, when it's Joseph Greene: It's Robert Smith: lost Joseph Greene: perfect. Robert Smith: uh you can find Joseph Greene: Even Robert Smith: it. Joseph Greene: for deaf people, Robert Smith: It's Joseph Greene: yeah. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: It's I don't think it's perfect, but we did everything possible to to Derek Robson: To Joseph Greene: get Derek Robson: make Joseph Greene: it back. Derek Robson: it that Joseph Greene: Because Derek Robson: way, Joseph Greene: if Derek Robson: yeah. Joseph Greene: it's stuck in you couch, you can see the light. Maybe you can hear it. But Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: I mean we tried, so Robert Smith: And it's Joseph Greene: I think it that's that deserves a one. Robert Smith: and it's yeah. Joseph Greene: Definitely. Robert Smith: To. That's okay then. And the next one. How is that? Uh w we had we don't have an uh Adolph Lyons: Manual. Robert Smith: manual, yeah. But Adolph Lyons: I Robert Smith: I think Adolph Lyons: think Robert Smith: that's Adolph Lyons: the Robert Smith: a Adolph Lyons: L_C_D_ display Robert Smith: part of it. But Adolph Lyons: could be a little Joseph Greene: I'd Adolph Lyons: bit more Joseph Greene: use an Adolph Lyons: difficult Joseph Greene: remote control. Adolph Lyons: then a normal remote control, Derek Robson: Mm yeah. Adolph Lyons: but then again, it's for young people. So Robert Smith: Yeah, an L_C_D_, it tells a lot about uh Adolph Lyons: Yeah, I Derek Robson: And Adolph Lyons: th Derek Robson: it's pretty straight-forward, you have Adolph Lyons: Exactly. Joseph Greene: It's Derek Robson: a Joseph Greene: pretty straight-forward, Derek Robson: navigation Joseph Greene: uh-huh. Adolph Lyons: No, Derek Robson: no Adolph Lyons: that's Derek Robson: keys Adolph Lyons: true. Derek Robson: to navigate through the L_C_D_ Adolph Lyons: I think it won't Derek Robson: menus. Adolph Lyons: be Robert Smith: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: a big problem. Derek Robson: So Robert Smith: So it's a one or Derek Robson: One Robert Smith: a Derek Robson: I Robert Smith: I Derek Robson: d no, Robert Smith: don't know. Derek Robson: actu Joseph Greene: I think but we didn't Robert Smith: For Joseph Greene: even Robert Smith: the advanced Joseph Greene: there was Robert Smith: uh Joseph Greene: no Robert Smith: settings. Joseph Greene: issue on making a manual actually. We didn't Robert Smith: No okay, Joseph Greene: really Robert Smith: that Joseph Greene: discuss Robert Smith: uh that's Joseph Greene: it, Robert Smith: true. Joseph Greene: but I don't think it takes no, it really does doesn't take time to learn, I think. We took Derek Robson: No, Joseph Greene: it Robert Smith: Oh, Joseph Greene: s Derek Robson: it Joseph Greene: it's Robert Smith: so Derek Robson: it Joseph Greene: so Robert Smith: it Derek Robson: is Joseph Greene: easy, we Derek Robson: pretty Joseph Greene: have so Derek Robson: straight-forward. Joseph Greene: little button, everything speaks for itself really. So Adolph Lyons: Ah. Joseph Greene: I think Adolph Lyons: Um Joseph Greene: that's yeah, we didn't it's Robert Smith: Takes Joseph Greene: either Robert Smith: no Joseph Greene: two Robert Smith: ti Joseph Greene: or one, I guess. Maybe it's a two, because d uh the L_C_D_ is a little is a little new and Adolph Lyons: With Joseph Greene: there Adolph Lyons: the Joseph Greene: is Adolph Lyons: more Joseph Greene: there are some Adolph Lyons: important Joseph Greene: option Adolph Lyons: functions Joseph Greene: hidden under Robert Smith: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: on. Joseph Greene: the menu button. So I might Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: make this a two instead of a one, I Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: guess. Robert Smith: And the L_C_D_, you have to see it. Joseph Greene: So just make that a two. Robert Smith: Um mm Oh, it's a little bit learning. Okay. Uh yeah it's uh a little bit same. But Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Robert Smith: it tells you Joseph Greene: You Robert Smith: or Joseph Greene: can use the Robert Smith: not? Joseph Greene: L_C_D_ in a good way. I think so. I think it's perfect, the w where it is, what it can do, if it useful. I think Robert Smith: But wha Joseph Greene: so. Robert Smith: w Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Robert Smith: oh, yeah. What are we uh displaying on the L_C_D_ screen? Just uh only the channels and or Adolph Lyons: the menus uh Robert Smith: What Adolph Lyons: Things Robert Smith: uh? Adolph Lyons: like brightness and uh those kind of things we've put in the menu, because we have no buttons for Derek Robson: Well, Adolph Lyons: those. Derek Robson: basically the menu options indeed. But Robert Smith: Oh, in the L_C_D_ Joseph Greene: No, y Robert Smith: screen. Joseph Greene: I mean Adolph Lyons: Yes. Joseph Greene: in the L_C_D_ screen, the small screen. What Robert Smith: And Joseph Greene: does it Robert Smith: for Joseph Greene: display? Robert Smith: a channel selection, uh or Joseph Greene: Well I Robert Smith: that's Joseph Greene: thought it was Robert Smith: not Joseph Greene: I thought it was I thought that people wanted previews on their I'm Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: not sure Robert Smith: I Joseph Greene: if Robert Smith: thought Joseph Greene: that even possible, Robert Smith: I thought Joseph Greene: but Robert Smith: too but yeah. Joseph Greene: 'cause it's this requires a quite quite a bit of band-width. I don't think it's possible really. But the Robert Smith: But Joseph Greene: they didn't really define in what should be used for. Robert Smith: Maybe Derek Robson: No. Robert Smith: a T_V_ guide or something Joseph Greene: But I think in Robert Smith: in Joseph Greene: for Robert Smith: your Joseph Greene: example Robert Smith: L_C_D_ Joseph Greene: like Adolph Lyons: Mm. Robert Smith: uh Joseph Greene: T_V_ guides, I think that's Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: that th that you can transmit through it and everything. Just for extra information on your programmes. Robert Smith: Yeah, it must be clear Joseph Greene: But Robert Smith: then Joseph Greene: also Robert Smith: what Joseph Greene: things like Robert Smith: what Joseph Greene: like Robert Smith: what for Joseph Greene: like Robert Smith: we Joseph Greene: menus Robert Smith: use it. Joseph Greene: or p how about preferences of your uh with configuring your remote control for Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: favourite your favourite channel for example, Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: how do you configure that. So that could be done by L_C_D_ display. I think it's good. No, maybe it's not a one because it's we're not using it perfectly. We didn't give it I don't thing over-discussing. Now we gave it enough thought though. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: I think we d should just lower this. Maybe maybe it's a three though. We could've used it more effectively probably. Robert Smith: Yeah, indeed. So everybody's agree with an uh three on it, it's Adolph Lyons: Yes. Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: Yeah, we Derek Robson: Two Joseph Greene: are using Derek Robson: or Robert Smith: W Joseph Greene: it, but Derek Robson: three. Joseph Greene: it's not Robert Smith: Yeah. Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: it's not poorly used, but it's not efficiently used, I think. We could have ev even lost the selection button and uh done everything via L_C_D_ selection. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: It's now it's just extra to illustrate im Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: uh Robert Smith: I Joseph Greene: extra features, but okay. Robert Smith: A three. Adolph Lyons: Nah, it's not really only an extra. Derek Robson: You Robert Smith: Ah, Adolph Lyons: No Derek Robson: can Adolph Lyons: menus. Robert Smith: nothing, Adolph Lyons: Think about Robert Smith: that's Derek Robson: seven. Robert Smith: A seven. Uh that's uh Joseph Greene: Can you talk Derek Robson: Or Joseph Greene: to Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: remote Derek Robson: could Joseph Greene: control? Derek Robson: say Joseph Greene: Well, Derek Robson: it Joseph Greene: it can't talk anymore. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: So we scrap that. Derek Robson: Or we could say neutral, we Joseph Greene: Oh yeah Derek Robson: 'cause we scratched the Joseph Greene: Just Derek Robson: C Joseph Greene: to be a prick, but of course you can talk Robert Smith: Yeah Joseph Greene: to your remote control, it doesn't do Robert Smith: yeah Joseph Greene: anything. But Robert Smith: yeah Joseph Greene: you Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: c you can talk to Robert Smith: Not Joseph Greene: it. Robert Smith: with the speech recognition. Uh yeah, all the trends and no colours uh anymore. So Joseph Greene: Well, we did take everything into consideration of course. Uh the Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: shape i shape Robert Smith: uh Joseph Greene: is i Robert Smith: um Joseph Greene: I think Robert Smith: only Joseph Greene: we Robert Smith: in the Joseph Greene: yeah, Robert Smith: curves. Joseph Greene: I think that's okay. Robert Smith: But the colours, we don't have special Derek Robson: No, Robert Smith: colours Derek Robson: we Robert Smith: on Derek Robson: don't Robert Smith: it. Derek Robson: have the colour. Joseph Greene: Yeah, Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: special Derek Robson: I Joseph Greene: co but we took into consideration the fact that it's customisable Robert Smith: Yeah, but Joseph Greene: to the Robert Smith: we Joseph Greene: fashi Derek Robson: Yes, but Robert Smith: yeah, Derek Robson: the Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: we don't have Derek Robson: end Robert Smith: it, Derek Robson: product Robert Smith: so d Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: We don't have it we Robert Smith: In Joseph Greene: do have Robert Smith: the end Joseph Greene: it, Robert Smith: product. Joseph Greene: it's Adolph Lyons: But Joseph Greene: just sold as a package. It does it's not Adolph Lyons: M Joseph Greene: part of the basic product. Adolph Lyons: Changing covers is also trend that Joseph Greene: It Adolph Lyons: we followed. Joseph Greene: that that's what I call trendy. I mean the shape is trendy. The the sh the the functions are trendy. It's just the colours that are not supporting the basic model. Robert Smith: Now Joseph Greene: Because you ha it's just not affordable Robert Smith: But it's Derek Robson: Maybe Robert Smith: not a Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: at Robert Smith: one. Derek Robson: should Joseph Greene: the moment. Derek Robson: go with a two then, because it's not perfect, Robert Smith: Yeah. Derek Robson: because we can't do it initially, but Robert Smith: Oh. Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: It's possible, Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: but you have to pay extra for the for the possibility of having it in a f a different colour. Robert Smith: Oh well Oops. Robert Smith: Oh it's a two, right? Derek Robson: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Robert Smith: On the last one. Uh that n that's Derek Robson: Overall Joseph Greene: Overall Robert Smith: all. Joseph Greene: score. Derek Robson: score. Robert Smith: Overall. It's um Joseph Greene: One two Robert Smith: ten, Joseph Greene: three. sixteen. Robert Smith: sixteen three uh Joseph Greene: Two two point Robert Smith: two Joseph Greene: some Robert Smith: two Joseph Greene: two Robert Smith: point Joseph Greene: point something. Robert Smith: seven Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: or something like that. I don't know why. Derek Robson: Ten, sixteen, divided by Adolph Lyons: Six. Robert Smith: Six. Derek Robson: Is two two third. Joseph Greene: Two and two thirds. Robert Smith: Um So we can say it's it's the product is it's okay. Joseph Greene: It's okay, Robert Smith: Y Joseph Greene: but Robert Smith: not Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: that's yo m mostly Derek Robson: There's Joseph Greene: it's it's influenced by the fact that we didn't have enough resources to implement speech recognition. Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: 'Cause yeah, that gives you a seven, which ruins your your average. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: Without that it would be like under it wouldn't yeah, it would be under two. So I think we have Robert Smith: Woah. Joseph Greene: even with this it's reasonable. Derek Robson: Yeah, if we make it into a four, as in neutral, because we didn't implement it, so we can't say that we Robert Smith: Yeah. Derek Robson: that it's really not well implemented. We come out on a average of two one eighth. Joseph Greene: Well I think it's two is okay. Derek Robson: So which is pretty w Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: good. Joseph Greene: Yeah, two is Derek Robson: It's Joseph Greene: pretty Derek Robson: at Joseph Greene: good. Derek Robson: least on the positive side. So Adolph Lyons: Hmm, Joseph Greene: Definitely. Derek Robson: We Robert Smith: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: of Derek Robson: could Adolph Lyons: course. Derek Robson: definitely have done better if we've had more resources, but Joseph Greene: Yeah, I think it's Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: probably Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: I I do admit that we d did miss a little or didn't sp didn't talk talk enough about the possibility of the L_C_D_ display. We could Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: have used it more efficiently, we just didn't think of it that Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: way. Robert Smith: Yeah, with. Derek Robson: True. Joseph Greene: So like I said, changing Robert Smith: The scale. Joseph Greene: channels, everything hidden in your L_C_D_ display, so you just need the navigation buttons to do everything. Adolph Lyons: But I think for this price, this is it's really a reasonable product. Joseph Greene: I Adolph Lyons: It's Joseph Greene: think Adolph Lyons: a good Joseph Greene: we Adolph Lyons: product. Joseph Greene: div I think we did very well, uh ev even Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: if you look at this score, we did quite well. Robert Smith: With Adolph Lyons: Oh. Robert Smith: an L_C_D_ screen. Joseph Greene: It just looking for improvements what what Adolph Lyons: Oh. Joseph Greene: you could have improved. Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: So. Adolph Lyons: But if pep people really want speech recognition, then they must be prepared to pu to pay more, because it's Robert Smith: Yeah, Adolph Lyons: cannot Joseph Greene: They sh Adolph Lyons: be Robert Smith: you Adolph Lyons: done Robert Smith: can Adolph Lyons: for Robert Smith: make Joseph Greene: they should Adolph Lyons: this. Robert Smith: 'em another Joseph Greene: get kids, Robert Smith: one. Joseph Greene: and just stick 'em in T_V_ and say change Adolph Lyons: Hmm Joseph Greene: the channel. Adolph Lyons: yeah. Ah but for this price uh you cannot ask that. Joseph Greene: I don' think Adolph Lyons: You Joseph Greene: so. Adolph Lyons: cannot Joseph Greene: Uh Adolph Lyons: th Joseph Greene: it's just Adolph Lyons: think Joseph Greene: not Adolph Lyons: of Joseph Greene: it Adolph Lyons: that Joseph Greene: it's not affordable. Adolph Lyons: No, Joseph Greene: Or your Adolph Lyons: it's Joseph Greene: sh Adolph Lyons: not. Joseph Greene: you should lose the L_C_D_ screen probably, but I think Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: that's I think the L_C_D_ screen is more worth than speech Adolph Lyons: Oh Joseph Greene: recognition. Adolph Lyons: It's also more attractive. Joseph Greene: Definitely. Okay, that was that. Robert Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Greene: So that's the final Derek Robson: So Joseph Greene: product Derek Robson: did you Joseph Greene: without the speakers, I guess. Let's see, what was left in the the Another one. Joseph Greene: Hmm. Yeah, we evaluate the product. General project, what's i in For example, I thou I thought we were pretty creative in what we created. We took the whole new approach of making exchangeable cover for example, which I thought was pretty creative, because it was never never ever listed somewhere. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: Favourite channel. Joseph Greene: Well Anyways. Yeah, leadership is up to you. I mean perhaps I screwed up because I d put a put a speech recognition into it. But that's not for Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: Robert Smith to decide. Robert Smith: I know. Joseph Greene: I think Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: we did pretty well as team-work though. Because, yeah Adolph Lyons: Yes. Joseph Greene: was very hard to work with one another if you cannot Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: communicate in the meantime, because Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: when Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: I got Robert Smith: you're Joseph Greene: the when Robert Smith: working Joseph Greene: I got the Robert Smith: separate. Joseph Greene: input for the financial results, Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: initially of course I wanted to contact you. Say, look, Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: this is Adolph Lyons: Huh. Joseph Greene: you're doing the wrong thing, you're s you're wasting your time now, because we're implementing Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: stuff that Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: we cannot Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: yeah Joseph Greene: afford. Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: So Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: it would be better if y if there was more communication between Robert Smith: Yeah yeah Joseph Greene: uh Robert Smith: yeah. Direct Derek Robson: And we Joseph Greene: because Derek Robson: could Joseph Greene: that's Derek Robson: share Robert Smith: uh communication Joseph Greene: that's Derek Robson: information Joseph Greene: what would w you what Robert Smith: with Derek Robson: which Joseph Greene: you would Derek Robson: we Joseph Greene: normally Derek Robson: received. Joseph Greene: do, Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: either call or email someone. So Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: that was too bad con was impossible here anyways. Adolph Lyons: That's the same thing that I had in the beginning. Everybody was using materials that s I didn't have. So Joseph Greene: It didn't Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: have or didn't knew what they costs Adolph Lyons: Oh. Joseph Greene: or whatever. There was just Derek Robson: Yeah. Joseph Greene: too little information about what things actually cost and Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: if you could use them. So that was a little unclear I suppose. I think a SMARTboard SMARTboard is pretty cool. I think uh s especially for design issues, Robert Smith: My handwriting Joseph Greene: it's very Robert Smith: is Joseph Greene: easy Robert Smith: little Joseph Greene: just Robert Smith: bit Joseph Greene: to Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: give your give your thoughts a little Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: it's easier to share them. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Derek Robson: Although for actual design I'd say Joseph Greene: It's Derek Robson: the Joseph Greene: a little Derek Robson: response Joseph Greene: less Derek Robson: time Joseph Greene: it the Derek Robson: should Joseph Greene: response time Derek Robson: be Joseph Greene: is Derek Robson: a Joseph Greene: le Derek Robson: little bit Joseph Greene: it's Derek Robson: higher, Joseph Greene: very bad. Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Derek Robson: because Joseph Greene: It's good to visualise everything, but I think the response time should could be a lot better. Derek Robson: The digital Robert Smith: But Derek Robson: pen Robert Smith: th Derek Robson: was Robert Smith: that's Derek Robson: definitely better to draw my Joseph Greene: Definitely. Derek Robson: ideas Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: and to Joseph Greene: Yeah, Robert Smith: Yeah, okay. Derek Robson: further Joseph Greene: it's Derek Robson: elaborate Joseph Greene: true. Derek Robson: on that. So Adolph Lyons: But there's uh also one problem with this I noticed. Uh you have to finish a page before Joseph Greene: No, you don't Adolph Lyons: going Joseph Greene: have Adolph Lyons: to a Joseph Greene: to. Adolph Lyons: n Robert Smith: No. Joseph Greene: No, you don't. I jin Robert Smith: You Adolph Lyons: Oh. Joseph Greene: I Robert Smith: can Joseph Greene: didn't check the finish button. I just you just ditch Robert Smith: Done Joseph Greene: it and Robert Smith: and Joseph Greene: you Robert Smith: then Joseph Greene: can Robert Smith: it's Joseph Greene: copy Robert Smith: okay. Joseph Greene: it or whatever. Adolph Lyons: Okay, I saw that uh Joseph Greene: Uh only if you uh check the notes or press done. Then it um then you can then it exports to Word Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: automatically. But it's not necessary to check either one of those two. You Adolph Lyons: Yeah, Joseph Greene: can Adolph Lyons: but Joseph Greene: just Adolph Lyons: I made Joseph Greene: preview Robert Smith: Oh, Joseph Greene: your p you Robert Smith: okay. Joseph Greene: can just preview your page in the in the programme. Adolph Lyons: Okay, Robert Smith: Okay, Adolph Lyons: but I made three pages Robert Smith: yeah. Adolph Lyons: and they were not finished. And when the third one was finished, I wanted to download it and then it was not possible anymore, because you have to close all the pinnits uh the pages before going further. Joseph Greene: Okay, before starting Robert Smith: Okay. Joseph Greene: a ne a new page. Okay, Adolph Lyons: Exactly. Joseph Greene: that could Adolph Lyons: So Joseph Greene: be Adolph Lyons: we cannot Joseph Greene: b. Adolph Lyons: work on more Robert Smith: Oh. Adolph Lyons: than one page at same time. That's not possible. Robert Smith: Hmm. Adolph Lyons: You Joseph Greene: Okay. Adolph Lyons: have to finish Derek Robson: Oh can Adolph Lyons: it completely, Derek Robson: you? Adolph Lyons: then Derek Robson: Okay. Adolph Lyons: download it, it's then start a new one. Joseph Greene: Yeah, okay. Adolph Lyons: That's not very uh handy, but Joseph Greene: That's Adolph Lyons: if you know that, then Joseph Greene: Yeah, Adolph Lyons: it's not a Joseph Greene: it's Adolph Lyons: problem. Joseph Greene: understandable, okay. Any new ideas? Yeah, more communication between between uh that's the thing I noticed, that communication is very um Robert Smith: Important Joseph Greene: very Robert Smith: to mm Joseph Greene: important, because if you get new information, it's essential f for the other team-mates to know that as soon as possible, because you would avoid making doing extra work, because you were doing extra work now uh m working on the on the speech recognition, Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: you have limitation both on the technical on the d on the design side. So I think that could have been better. But that's I think it's more of a a setting here that you cannot communicate Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: than uh than somewhere else. So Derek Robson: Yeah, well it could also possibly be well, is it a more real-time information base, so we can all see Joseph Greene: Yeah, I think so. And l less Derek Robson: which Joseph Greene: p Derek Robson: information Joseph Greene: less spam Derek Robson: is available Joseph Greene: probably. I'm Derek Robson: to Joseph Greene: not Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Derek Robson: one Joseph Greene: sure Derek Robson: another. Joseph Greene: i I'm not sure you got spammed as well, but I get spammed like every t every two minutes there Adolph Lyons: Ah. Joseph Greene: was a there Adolph Lyons: Well Joseph Greene: was another email about master classes or something. So Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: which were totally useless actually. I thought I should probably look into them, but they were all useless. So I just Derek Robson: Well, I personally Robert Smith: Mm Derek Robson: did not have that, but Joseph Greene: Oh okay. Derek Robson: That's probably your l description. But I also didn't not really. But still, you had that as well. Adolph Lyons: Huh. Derek Robson: Is that we finished up the design and then we checked the website, and Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Derek Robson: then there Robert Smith: Yeah, Derek Robson: was Robert Smith: after Derek Robson: just extra information. Robert Smith: After five minutes, uh Adolph Lyons: Yeah, Derek Robson: There was a little delay in the Robert Smith: Yeah. Derek Robson: bit Joseph Greene: I didn't have Derek Robson: of a Joseph Greene: any Derek Robson: c Joseph Greene: uh more information, it's just Derek Robson: crucial Joseph Greene: always Derek Robson: delay. Joseph Greene: the same here. Adolph Lyons: Mm. Joseph Greene: So that's that's kind of a Robert Smith: Email uh Joseph Greene: It would change, but not for Robert Smith. So I'd I had no extra information to go Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: on that one than what you give Robert Smith Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: actually. I couldn't do any research myself or Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: I see, that's yeah, w I could have done a little extra work probably, then Robert Smith: it's Joseph Greene: But I was busy enough anyway. So Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: Any new ideas found? Or is that a 'cause Adolph Lyons: No. Joseph Greene: uh yeah, it's well, probably Derek Robson: How much Joseph Greene: is. Derek Robson: time do we have for this anyway? Joseph Greene: I have no clue. That's like oh,but it Should i if the project is evaluated and it was it was in b within budget, we should celebrate. So Adolph Lyons: Okay, bring out the beer. Derek Robson: Yeah. Champagne. Joseph Greene: Uh okay, Robert Smith: I want one Joseph Greene: think that's Robert Smith: for Joseph Greene: about Robert Smith: my own. Joseph Greene: it. Uh I'm not sure what we should still do though uh t let's see what all your tasks were finished, right? Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: What you ha Adolph Lyons: I have Joseph Greene: from Adolph Lyons: no Joseph Greene: your Adolph Lyons: more email. Joseph Greene: assistant. So Adolph Lyons: My Joseph Greene: let's Adolph Lyons: coach is uh being very silent now. Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: Okay, Robert Smith: my Joseph Greene: I Robert Smith: personal Joseph Greene: should Robert Smith: coach Joseph Greene: I think Robert Smith: i Joseph Greene: I sh I still have the the total report to finish up. I think we took very little time now, because Yeah, we're in agreement, everything the design is okay. The one thing we missed though, we don't Robert Smith: What Joseph Greene: have a product name. How about you Adolph Lyons: we Derek Robson: Product Joseph Greene: cook a how Adolph Lyons: haven't Derek Robson: name. Adolph Lyons: think Joseph Greene: about Adolph Lyons: above Robert Smith: Yeah, Joseph Greene: you Adolph Lyons: about Joseph Greene: cook Adolph Lyons: that. Joseph Greene: up a product Robert Smith: name. Joseph Greene: name? Adolph Lyons: Huh. It's better than thi I think than a serial number. Sony uh T_R_ something uh Robert Smith: Or Adolph Lyons: f Joseph Greene: Just Robert Smith: fruit Adolph Lyons: means nothing Robert Smith: name. Adolph Lyons: to Robert Smith. Joseph Greene: oh, think of a catchy name. Adolph Lyons: Uh Joseph Greene: I'll be working on this until the beep until it beeps. So Adolph Lyons: Like fruit names. Robert Smith: Fruit name or something like that. The Joseph Greene: What? Robert Smith: banana Joseph Greene: Fruit? Robert Smith: remote or something. Joseph Greene: You don't want Robert Smith: I Joseph Greene: it to Robert Smith: don't Joseph Greene: resemble Robert Smith: know. Joseph Greene: a banana. Robert Smith: Yeah, it's the form Derek Robson: The Robert Smith: of Joseph Greene: It's Derek Robson: bana Robert Smith: it. Joseph Greene: not yellow anyway. Derek Robson: 'cause it's not yellow Robert Smith: Yeah Derek Robson: anymore. Joseph Greene: It's not Robert Smith: oh, Joseph Greene: yellow anymore. Robert Smith: yeah. Joseph Greene: It is curved, but Robert Smith: Uh yeah. Derek Robson: Well, Robert Smith: Uh Derek Robson: uh I was going for the R_C_ deluxe, but it's not really a catchy name or anything, it's more Joseph Greene: No, it's Adolph Lyons: Uh Joseph Greene: Hmm. Adolph Lyons: at least it's not something with numbers. Numbers are so meaningless to the Robert Smith: Yeah. Adolph Lyons: people. I mean. Derek Robson: Something Robert Smith: That's true. Derek Robson: with our company name, can we do anything with that? Robert Smith: Reaction, Derek Robson: Maybe there's something Robert Smith: Real Derek Robson: on Robert Smith: Reaction. Derek Robson: the website which will help us out. Adolph Lyons: Real Reaction. Derek Robson: The reaction Joseph Greene: Real Reaction Derek Robson: deluxe. Joseph Greene: future R_C_. Step into the future of of remote controlling your T_V_. Derek Robson: Is that a name or a c Joseph Greene: No Derek Robson: campaign? Joseph Greene: that's a that's a catchy slogan. Derek Robson: Yeah. Or Joseph Greene: Control Derek Robson: the Joseph Greene: your remote control. Derek Robson: The real reactor. Adolph Lyons: Real react. Joseph Greene: I go for future R_C_ probably. Something like It's Adolph Lyons: The Joseph Greene: short Adolph Lyons: Real Reactor, Joseph Greene: f Adolph Lyons: I don't find that uh that bad at all. Joseph Greene: Real reactor? Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Because Joseph Greene: Uh Adolph Lyons: our Joseph Greene: that Adolph Lyons: name Joseph Greene: that's Adolph Lyons: is Real Reaction. Derek Robson: a an option. Joseph Greene: That makes Robert Smith think of different products than a remote control really. I'm not sure. Real reaction in a real Robert Smith: Zapping. The Derek Robson: So that's one option. Joseph Greene: Real reactor. Joseph Greene: Didn't notice. Adolph Lyons: I'm looking for things in the name. Joseph Greene: Mm. Adolph Lyons: So that the first three letters are s Derek Robson: Should I Adolph Lyons: the Derek Robson: write Adolph Lyons: same. Derek Robson: the banana Adolph Lyons: R_E_A_ Derek Robson: down Adolph Lyons: R_E_A_. Derek Robson: or Robert Smith: Yeah, sure. Joseph Greene: I take f yeah, Derek Robson: Sure? Joseph Greene: take a banana. Robert Smith: The banana. Joseph Greene: Hmm. Robert Smith: Remote. Banana recei Adolph Lyons: The triple Robert Smith: R_C_. Adolph Lyons: R_. Real Reaction remotes Robert Smith: Remote. Adolph Lyons: control. Derek Robson: Well I Adolph Lyons: Triple R_. Robert Smith: R_ three C_. Derek Robson: Uh do you mean it like Robert Smith: R_ three C_. Adolph Lyons: yeah. Derek Robson: You mean it like this? Adolph Lyons: Yeah, that. Robert Smith: Real Reaction Remote Control. R_ three C_. Oh yeah. Joseph Greene: No, not like that. It should be it should be longer, because it's not a product name that you f Adolph Lyons: I Joseph Greene: print Adolph Lyons: think Joseph Greene: on a box. Adolph Lyons: triple R_. Doesn't Joseph Greene: Just Adolph Lyons: sound? Joseph Greene: write out triple, Robert Smith: Yeah, triple Joseph Greene: like a word Robert Smith: R_. Joseph Greene: triple R_C_, triple Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: stripe Oh. Triple Robert Smith: Triple Adolph Lyons: Ah. Joseph Greene: dash Robert Smith: R_C_. Joseph Greene: R_ dash s s C_. Robert Smith: The triple R_C_, yeah. Joseph Greene: Yeah. Robert Smith: R_ s R_ three C_. Joseph Greene: R_ dash C_. Derek Robson: Dash Adolph Lyons: I Derek Robson: C_? Adolph Lyons: think I like it Joseph Greene: Dash. Adolph Lyons: like this more. Joseph Greene: Triple R_ or triple R_C_? Derek Robson: Like a Robert Smith: Triple Derek Robson: C_ right Robert Smith: R_ dash. Derek Robson: now or a dash in a C_? Joseph Greene: How about do both? Sure if it looks stupid. Uh I think that the the R_C_ together takes away the the the image of it's a triple Adolph Lyons: Hmm. Joseph Greene: Uh the first the Adolph Lyons: Mm. Joseph Greene: first one looks like it's a triple Robert Smith: That Joseph Greene: remote control, but it's only a single remote control. And it's especially on the triple R_ that's important. Robert Smith: Yeah, Adolph Lyons: I Joseph Greene: The Real Adolph Lyons: would Joseph Greene: Reaction Robert Smith: this Joseph Greene: Remote. Adolph Lyons: huh. Robert Smith: yeah. Adolph Lyons: I would lose the C_ and just name it triple Derek Robson: Is it triple Adolph Lyons: R_. Derek Robson: R_C_s? No. Adolph Lyons: It sounds like uh thinking about two Robert Smith: Triple Adolph Lyons: different Robert Smith: remote. Adolph Lyons: things and combining it. I would just say triple R_s triple R_ Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: Yeah, Derek Robson: Well, Joseph Greene: triple Derek Robson: that's another Joseph Greene: R_ Derek Robson: option. Joseph Greene: yeah, you can Adolph Lyons: That's also short, Robert Smith: It's okay. Adolph Lyons: catchy. Derek Robson: Okay, Joseph Greene: Yeah, triple Derek Robson: so which Joseph Greene: R_. Derek Robson: ones are we going to scratch definitely? Robert Smith: The banana. Adolph Lyons: Banana. Joseph Greene: Banana Robert Smith: Banana. Joseph Greene: remote. Derek Robson: I say this one as well. Robert Smith: Yeah, the deluxe. Joseph Greene: I think we're all in agreement about the triple R_. I think Adolph Lyons: Yes. Robert Smith: The Joseph Greene: triple R_ Robert Smith: r Derek Robson: Triple Joseph Greene: is cool. Derek Robson: R_? Robert Smith: triple R_. Derek Robson: Triple Joseph Greene: And it Robert Smith: Yeah. Joseph Greene: looks Derek Robson: R_ Joseph Greene: cool Derek Robson: it is. Joseph Greene: when you print it in font, looks pretty cool. Adolph Lyons: did you do now? Joseph Greene: Just like this just and you just print triple R_, Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: it looks doesn't look bad, it's short, it's okay. Adolph Lyons: Yeah. Joseph Greene: So have to write my report now, I guess. Um Um Yeah, so we have everything. We have the product, we have the costs, Adolph Lyons: Yep. Joseph Greene: we have Robert Smith: It can't Joseph Greene: the Robert Smith: work. Joseph Greene: possibility Robert Smith: That will not Joseph Greene: of everything. Okay. I think it's adjourned. Retire to my lair and finish the report. That was a short meeting. Adolph Lyons: Mm-hmm. Joseph Greene: But efficient though. Adolph Lyons: The boss is always the last one to go home. So Joseph Greene: Probably. See. Okay, Robert Smith: Okay. Joseph Greene: goodbye. Adolph Lyons: See you in a minute. Robert Smith: Damn. I will write that one in a Word uh document. Adolph Lyons: Okay. Joseph Greene: Could you guys draw Robert Smith a picture of the final design to put on the cover of the Derek Robson: Yeah, Joseph Greene: report? Derek Robson: sure. Adolph Lyons: Can't we take this one? Robert Smith: Oh sh Adolph Lyons: Otherwise we have to Robert Smith: Um Adolph Lyons: do it all over again. Derek Robson: I don't really know whether we can save it as a picture or no. Adolph Lyons: Is it okay if I try? Is that okay with Derek Robson: Sure. Robert Smith: Yeah, Adolph Lyons: you? Robert Smith: okay, I will ask you when uh Adolph Lyons: I'll put it Robert Smith: I Adolph Lyons: back Robert Smith: need Adolph Lyons: in Robert Smith: the Adolph Lyons: a minute. Robert Smith: information. So it's oh. Adolph Lyons: Okay, it has been saving something, but Robert Smith: Uh Adolph Lyons: where to I don't know. Robert Smith: Oh. Merge. Adolph Lyons: Oh, can I say exp yes, I can. Robert Smith: Sucks. Adolph Lyons: Export as J_ PEG. Adolph Lyons: Okay, can I not put this wherever I wants. My document is the wrong one, huh. Robert Smith: Yeah, but Adolph Lyons: I cannot. Derek Robson: Network Robert Smith: I don't know. Derek Robson: places. Robert Smith: Smart no. Ma it's maybe it's not on the network of uh the rest. Adolph Lyons: I don't think so. Robert Smith: That one is. Adolph Lyons: Document and settings. Derek Robson: I wouldn't pick that one, no. Adolph Lyons: That's a pity. That means that we have to gonna draw it again. Are you gonna do that? Derek Robson: Sure. Adolph Lyons: Okay. Derek Robson: Oh. Adolph Lyons: That Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes, that's correct. Robert Smith: Yeah. Okay. Adolph Lyons: Okay. No. Oh, it's export. Robert Smith: Oh yeah, Adolph Lyons: Okay. Robert Smith: Can I see scores? Uh, Adolph Lyons: Oh, of course. Sorry. Robert Smith: one one, two threes, two Okay, then we'll overall, two points. Yes. Derek Robson: I see you later. Robert Smith: Yeah. Robert Smith: Mm.	Derek Robson and Adolph Lyons presented a prototype drawing of the remote control design. The rubber case is yellow with black buttons and dark yellow for the menus. There are buttons for teletext, favourite channel, mute and OK. It incorporates both LCD screen and speech recognition. The prototype proved over budget (17 euros). The main contributing factors were the LCD and speech recognition. The latter was taken out, along with the special colour. Everyone agreed that the financial information should not have been given to them at the last moment. After the costing, the original prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad). The criteria used were look and feel (1), whether it is easy to find (1), whether it is easy to learn (2), use of LCD (3), speech recognition (7), trendiness (2). Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (satisfactory), leadership and teamwork (happy with it, but they missed communicating in between meetings), and means (SMARTboard could be improved in terms of response time, the digital pens could not be used on more than one page at the same time). Finally, the decided to call their design Triple-R.	3	amisum	train
Pearl Bagley: Okay Right. Um well this is the meeting for our our project. Um and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes. Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Um so first of all, just to kind of make sure that we all know each other, I'm Laura and I'm Pearl Bagley. Do Louise Diaz: Great. Pearl Bagley: you want to introduce yourself again? Shirley Schoonmaker: Hi, I'm David and be an industrial designer. Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: And Andrew and I'm uh marketing Teresa Recalde: Um Louise Diaz: expert. Teresa Recalde: I'm Craig and I'm User Interface. Pearl Bagley: Great. Okay. Um so we're designing a new remote control and um Oh I have to record who's here actually. So David, Andrew and Craig, it? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh design a new remote control. Um, as you can see it's supposed to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief, as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get? Shirley Schoonmaker: Um, I just got the project announcement about Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schoonmaker: what the project is. Designing Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schoonmaker: a remote control. That's about it, Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schoonmaker: didn't Louise Diaz: Yeah, Shirley Schoonmaker: get Louise Diaz: that's Shirley Schoonmaker: anything Louise Diaz: that's Shirley Schoonmaker: else. Pearl Bagley: Is that what Louise Diaz: it. Pearl Bagley: everybody Teresa Recalde: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: Did Pearl Bagley: got? Shirley Schoonmaker: you get the same thing? Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: Yeah. Pearl Bagley: Um. So we're gonna have like individual work and then a meeting about it. And repeat that process three times. Um and at this point we get try out the whiteboard over there. Um. So uh you get to draw your favourite animal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it. So who would like to go Louise Diaz: I Pearl Bagley: first? Louise Diaz: will go. That's fine. Pearl Bagley: Very good. Louise Diaz: Alright. So This one here, right? Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like Louise Diaz: A beagle. Louise Diaz: Um charac favourite characteristics of it? Is that right? Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: Uh, Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: right, well basically um high priority for any animal for is that they be willing take a lot of physical their family. And, yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health. So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle. Pearl Bagley: Right. Lovely. Teresa Recalde: Well, my favourite animal would be a monkey. Teresa Recalde: Then they're small cute and furry, and uh when planet of the apes becomes real, I'm gonna be up there with them. Pearl Bagley: Right. Shirley Schoonmaker: Cool. There's too much gear. Pearl Bagley: You can take as long over this as you like, because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss. Ok oh we do we do. Don't feel like you're in a rush, anyway. Shirley Schoonmaker: Okay. Louise Diaz: I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles. Pearl Bagley: Ach Louise Diaz: Boy, let Louise Diaz tell Pearl Bagley: why not Louise Diaz: you. Pearl Bagley: We might have to get you up again then. I don't know what mine is. I'm gonna have to think on the spot now. Louise Diaz: Impressionist. Shirley Schoonmaker: Can't draw. Pearl Bagley: Is Shirley Schoonmaker: Um. Pearl Bagley: that a whale? Shirley Schoonmaker: Yeah. Um, well anyway, I don't know, it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic Pearl Bagley: Ah. Shirley Schoonmaker: to animal fur, so um fish was a natural choice. Um, yeah, and I kind of like whales. They come in and go eat everything in sight. And they're quite Louise Diaz: Alright. Shirley Schoonmaker: harmless and mild and interesting. Louise Diaz: Mm. Pearl Bagley: Okay. God, I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um. Louise Diaz: Superb sketch, by the way. Shirley Schoonmaker: Tail's a bit big, I think. Pearl Bagley: I was gonna choose a dog as well. But I'll just draw a different kind of dog. Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: M my favourite animal is my own dog at home. Um That doesn't really look like him, actually. He looks more like a pig, actually. Ah well. Louise Diaz: I see a dog in there. Pearl Bagley: Do you? Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: Oh that's very good of you. Louise Diaz: Now I see a rooster. Pearl Bagley: Uh. Louise Diaz: What kind is it? Pearl Bagley: Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him, um That's just to suggest that his tail wags. Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you, and very kind of affectionate and um uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can doesn't take up too much space. Um and uh And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well, which is quite amusing, Louise Diaz: Is Pearl Bagley: so Louise Diaz: he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing? Pearl Bagley: It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail Louise Diaz: Hmm. Pearl Bagley: 'round the living room. Shirley Schoonmaker: It's an after dinner dog then. Pearl Bagley: Yeah, so Louise Diaz: Probably when Pearl Bagley: uh Louise Diaz: he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and Pearl Bagley: Yeah, Louise Diaz: has Pearl Bagley: maybe. Louise Diaz: forever been conditioned. Pearl Bagley: Maybe. Right, um where did you find this? Just down here? Yeah. Okay. Um what are we doing next? Uh um. Okay, uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro, um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't Louise Diaz: 'Kay. Pearl Bagley: want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros, so fifty percent of the selling price. Louise Diaz: Um, can we just go over that again? Pearl Bagley: Sure. Louise Diaz: Uh, so bas at twel Alright, yeah. Okay. So cost like production cost is Pearl Bagley: All together. Louise Diaz: twelve fifty, but selling price is is that wholesale or retail? Like on the shelf. Pearl Bagley: Um I dunno. I imagine That's a good Louise Diaz: Our Pearl Bagley: question. Louise Diaz: sale our sale anyway. Pearl Bagley: I imagine it probably is our Louise Diaz: Yeah, Pearl Bagley: sale Louise Diaz: okay Pearl Bagley: actually because it's probably Louise Diaz: okay. Pearl Bagley: up to the the um the retailer to uh Louise Diaz: Okay. Pearl Bagley: sell it for whatever price they want. Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Um. Louise Diaz: Alright. Pearl Bagley: But I I don't know, I mean do you think the fact that it's going to be sold internationally will have a bearing on how we design it at all? Louise Diaz: Yes. Pearl Bagley: Think it will? Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Um. Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Hmm. Louise Diaz: Well right away I'm wondering if there's um th th uh, like with D_V_D_ players, if there are zones. Pearl Bagley: Oh yeah, Louise Diaz: Um Pearl Bagley: regions and Louise Diaz: f Pearl Bagley: stuff, yeah. Louise Diaz: frequencies or something Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: um Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: as well as uh characters, um different uh keypad styles and s symbols. Shirley Schoonmaker: Hmm. Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Well for Louise Diaz: Um. Pearl Bagley: a remote control, do you think that will be I suppose Louise Diaz: I don't Pearl Bagley: it's Louise Diaz: know. Pearl Bagley: depends on how complicated our remote control is. Louise Diaz: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages, then you need more buttons. Pearl Bagley: Yeah, Louise Diaz: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: So, Pearl Bagley: yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: possibly. Louise Diaz: Yeah. Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region, whereas in another it'll be different, so Pearl Bagley: What, just like Louise Diaz: Just Pearl Bagley: in Louise Diaz: a Pearl Bagley: terms Louise Diaz: chara just Pearl Bagley: of like Louise Diaz: a characteristic Pearl Bagley: the wealth of the Louise Diaz: of Pearl Bagley: country? Louise Diaz: the Pearl Bagley: Like how Louise Diaz: Just Pearl Bagley: much money people have to spend on things Louise Diaz: Or just Pearl Bagley: like? Louise Diaz: like, basic product podi positioning, the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London, might not be such a big hit in Greece, who knows, Pearl Bagley: Aye, I Louise Diaz: something Pearl Bagley: see what Louise Diaz: like Pearl Bagley: you Louise Diaz: that, Pearl Bagley: mean, Louise Diaz: yeah. Pearl Bagley: yeah. Marketing. Good marketing Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: thoughts. Oh gosh, I should be writing all this down. Um. Louise Diaz: Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here, Pearl Bagley: Mm. Louise Diaz: thinking, 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic, Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away, is selling twenty five Euros, is that sort of the thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda Pearl Bagley: Yeah, Louise Diaz: thing Pearl Bagley: yeah. Louise Diaz: or Pearl Bagley: Like how much does, you know, a remote control cost. Louise Diaz: Uh-huh. Pearl Bagley: Well twenty five Euro, I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something, isn't it? Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Or no, is it as much as that? Sixteen Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: seventeen eighteen pounds. Louise Diaz: Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. Pearl Bagley: Um, I dunno, I've never bought a remote control, so I don't Louise Diaz: No. Pearl Bagley: know how how good a remote Louise Diaz: Yeah, Pearl Bagley: control that would get you. Louise Diaz: yeah. Pearl Bagley: Um. But yeah, I suppose it has to look kind of cool Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: and gimmicky. Um right, okay. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all? Louise Diaz: Do Pearl Bagley: Thin Louise Diaz: we have any other background information on like how that compares to other Pearl Bagley: No, actually. That Louise Diaz: other Pearl Bagley: would be useful, though, wouldn't it, if you knew like Louise Diaz: Yeah. Pearl Bagley: what your money would get you Shirley Schoonmaker: Hmm. Pearl Bagley: now. Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: Yeah, interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for Louise Diaz is that l as you point out, I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits. Pearl Bagley: Yeah, Louise Diaz: It's just Pearl Bagley: yeah. Louise Diaz: like getting shoelaces with shoes or something. Pearl Bagley: Oh. Louise Diaz: It just Pearl Bagley: Five Louise Diaz: comes Pearl Bagley: minutes Louise Diaz: along. Pearl Bagley: to end of meeting. Oh, okay. We're a bit behind. Louise Diaz: Do you know what I mean? Teresa Recalde: Yeah. Louise Diaz: Like Shirley Schoonmaker: Yeah. Louise Diaz: so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be, well the people producing television sets, maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want Teresa Recalde: I Louise Diaz: a Teresa Recalde: know Louise Diaz: better Teresa Recalde: um Louise Diaz: one or something. Teresa Recalde: My Louise Diaz: But Teresa Recalde: parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things Louise Diaz: Right. Teresa Recalde: the house. Louise Diaz: Right. Okay so Teresa Recalde: how many devices control. Louise Diaz: Right, so in function one of the priorities might be Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: to combine as many uses Pearl Bagley: Right, so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know, Louise Diaz: I think so. Pearl Bagley: do your Louise Diaz: Yeah, Pearl Bagley: your satellite and Louise Diaz: yeah. Pearl Bagley: your regular telly and Louise Diaz: Yeah. Pearl Bagley: your V_C_R_ and everything? Louise Diaz: Well like um, maybe what we could use is a sort of like a example of a successful other piece technology is palm palm pilots. They're gone from being just like little sort of scribble boards to cameras, M_P_ three players, Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: telephones, everything, agenda. So, like, I wonder if we might add something new to the to the remote control Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: market, such as the lighting in your house, or um Pearl Bagley: Or even like, you know, notes about um what you wanna watch. Like you might put in there oh I want Louise Diaz: Yeah, Pearl Bagley: to watch such and such Louise Diaz: yeah. Pearl Bagley: and look a Oh that's a good idea. Louise Diaz: An Pearl Bagley: So extra functionalities. Louise Diaz: Yeah. Like, p personally for Louise Diaz, at home I've I've combined the um the audio video of my television set and my D_V_D_ player and my C_D_ player. So they w all work actually function together but I have different remote controls for each of them. Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: So it's sort of ironic that that then they're in there um you know, the sound and everything it's just one system. But each one's Pearl Bagley: Hmm. Louise Diaz: got its own little part. Pearl Bagley: Um okay, uh I'd wel we're gonna have to wrap up pretty quickly in the next couple of minutes. Um I'll just check we've nothing else. Okay. Um so anything else anybody wants to add about what they don't like about remote controls they've used, what they would really like to be part of this new one at all? Shirley Schoonmaker: And you keep losing them. Pearl Bagley: You keep Louise Diaz: Mm. Pearl Bagley: losing them. Okay. Shirley Schoonmaker: Finding them is really Louise Diaz: Mm. Shirley Schoonmaker: a pain, you know. I Louise Diaz: Mm. Shirley Schoonmaker: mean it's usually quite small, or when you want Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schoonmaker: it right, it slipped Louise Diaz: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schoonmaker: behind the couch or it's Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: kicked under the table. Pearl Bagley: W Louise Diaz: Yeah. Pearl Bagley: You get Shirley Schoonmaker: You Pearl Bagley: those Shirley Schoonmaker: know. Pearl Bagley: ones where you can, Louise Diaz: That's just really Pearl Bagley: if Louise Diaz: good Pearl Bagley: you Louise Diaz: Shirley Schoonmaker Pearl Bagley: like, whistle or make a really high pitched noise they beep. Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: There I mean is that something we'd want to include, do you think? Louise Diaz: Uh, Pearl Bagley: Dunno. Louise Diaz: sure. Pearl Bagley: Okay maybe. Louise Diaz: I remember when the first remote control my my family had was on a cable. Actually had a cable between it and the T_V_ and big like buttons that sort of like, like on a blender or something. Pearl Bagley: My goodness. Louise Diaz: And um, you know, when I think about what they are now, it's better, Pearl Bagley: Still Louise Diaz: Maybe Pearl Bagley: feels Louise Diaz: we could Pearl Bagley: quite Louise Diaz: think Pearl Bagley: primitive. Louise Diaz: about how, could be more, you know, streamlined. Pearl Bagley: Maybe Louise Diaz: S Pearl Bagley: like a touch screen or something? Louise Diaz: Something like that, yeah. Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: Or whatever would be technologically reasonable. Pearl Bagley: Uh-huh, okay. Well Louise Diaz: 'Cause Pearl Bagley: I guess Louise Diaz: it could Pearl Bagley: that's Louise Diaz: b Pearl Bagley: up Louise Diaz: it Pearl Bagley: to Louise Diaz: could Pearl Bagley: our industrial Louise Diaz: it could be Pearl Bagley: designer. Louise Diaz: that f it could be that functionally that doesn't make it any better, but that just the appeal Pearl Bagley: It looks Louise Diaz: of Pearl Bagley: better. Louise Diaz: of not having You know, these days there's a r pe things in people's homes are becoming more and more like chic, you know. Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Louise Diaz: Um, nicer materials and Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: might be Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: be worth exploring anyway. Teresa Recalde: Uh. Pearl Bagley: Right, well um so just to wrap up, the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes. So that's about um about ten to twelve by my watch. Um so inbetween now and then, um as Shirley Schoonmaker, you're gonna be working on you know the actual working Shirley Schoonmaker: Yep. Pearl Bagley: design of it so y you know what you're doing there. Um for user interface, technical functions, I guess that's you know like what we've been talking about, what it'll actually do. Um and uh marketing executive, you'll be just thinking about what it actually what, you know, what requirements it has to has to fulfil and you'll all get instructions emailed to you, I guess. Louise Diaz: Okay. Pearl Bagley: Um. Yeah, so it's th the functional design stage is next, I guess. And uh and that's the end of the meeting. So I got Louise Diaz: Um. Pearl Bagley: that little message a lot sooner than I thought I would, so Louise Diaz: Before we wrap up, just to make sure we're all on the same page here, Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: um, do we We were given sort of an example of a coffee machine or something, Pearl Bagley: Uh-huh, Louise Diaz: right? Pearl Bagley: yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: Well, um are we at ma right now on the assumption that our television remote control may have features which go beyond the television? Or are we keeping Pearl Bagley: Th Louise Diaz: sort of like a a design commitment to television features? Pearl Bagley: Okay, Louise Diaz: I Pearl Bagley: well Louise Diaz: I don't know. Pearl Bagley: just very quickly 'cause this we're supposed to finish now. Louise Diaz: Yep. Pearl Bagley: Um I guess Louise Diaz: Yeah, sure. Pearl Bagley: that's up to us, I mean you probably want some kind of unique selling point of it, Louise Diaz: Okay. Pearl Bagley: so um, Shirley Schoonmaker: I Pearl Bagley: you Shirley Schoonmaker: think Pearl Bagley: know Shirley Schoonmaker: one factor would be production cost. Louise Diaz: Okay, yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: Because Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: there's a cap there, so um Louise Diaz: Okay. Shirley Schoonmaker: depends on how much you can cram into that price. Pearl Bagley: Mm-hmm. Louise Diaz: Okay. Shirley Schoonmaker: Um. Pearl Bagley: Yeah. Shirley Schoonmaker: I think that that's the main factor. Pearl Bagley: Okay. Louise Diaz: Okay. Pearl Bagley: Right, okay, we'll that's that's the end of the meeting, then. Louise Diaz: Alright. Pearl Bagley: Um. So, uh thank you all for coming. Shirley Schoonmaker: Cool.	Pearl Bagley introduced the upcoming project to the team members and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed what they liked about the animal. Pearl Bagley talked about the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in making the remote.	4	amisum	train
Marlene Dilley: Just put it on the deskt desktop. Joan Colson: No on the desktop you'll find you should that there's a project documents link. A well actually just there. Marlene Dilley: Project documents, yeah. Joan Colson: Yeah. That's it. If you dump it in there. Marlene Dilley: What's your username? Joan Colson: Your username. Marlene Dilley: What's your username and password? Mm-hmm. Sorry. Okay. Joan Colson: Okay. Marlene Dilley: There we go. Joan Colson: Excellent. Right. Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go. So. Functional design meeting. We'll have to flesh out some of the uh stuff. Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting. Not a lot thankfully to say. We introduced ourselves, the of a macro facility, interacting the T_V_ a bit more, um mentioning of bar-code, joystick for user manipulation, um and ergonomics of the remote control as well. Um it's come to my attention the following. Teletext has become outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet. Remote control should only be used for the T_V_. Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues. Um also key is the corporate image should stay recognisable, um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there. Um. Now. Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macro facility may now not be required. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: Um or at l its functionality would have been of limited use. So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing. Um if anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so. Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll get everything going. Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first, Marlene Dilley: 'Kay. Joan Colson: to help us gain an idea of where we're going to go. So um I'll just load up your presentation from here if you want. Marlene Dilley: Sure. Um, sh would you like to I'll just do it from here. Joan Colson: Yep. Sorry. Uh. Is yours the Marlene Dilley: Um, try second one maybe. Try it, yeah maybe. Joan Colson: Oh sorry. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Okay. Joan Colson: Okay, right. Marlene Dilley: Oh, I thought I put in my last name, I guess not, but. Joan Colson: Uh if you that's all right. Marlene Dilley: Okay. Joan Colson: If you do you want Marlene Dilley to just cycle through it for you or? Marlene Dilley: Oh yeah, that'd be, that'd Joan Colson: Yeah? Marlene Dilley: great. Okay. Functional requirement by Marlene Dilley Ebenezer. Joan Colson: Okay. Marlene Dilley: Okay, so um we did some research, we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls. We asked some uh open ended questions, just, what are your opinions on the remote control, got a lot of re responses, and we asked some very specific questions, and we got a lot of good feedback. Please bear in mind this is only a hundred people, so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, there's only maybe ten people fifteen people in each group. Okay. Joan Colson: Okay. Marlene Dilley: So we got some the bad stuff we got, remotes are often lost. I often lose my remote control, the back of the couch, some place, and even if it's not lost permanently, it takes Marlene Dilley a few minutes to find it. Most buttons are not used any more, like you said, teletext is outdated now. I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently, and there were so many buttons, it took Marlene Dilley I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button, 'cause you have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons, you know there's just a lot of stuff that no one really uses. And if they do, not very often. Takes too long to master the remote control. I've seen some remote controls that are big, they have a lot of buttons, you have to hold down more than one key at one time to do something, they're just not great to use. We just got a lot of bad complaints about remote controls, people do not like remote controls. Some of the good stuff we got. Between the age of uh fifteen and twenty five, most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognition software. Now don't get excited yet, I've got more to say on that. Most people'd be willing to pay for that um most people want remote controls to be pretty, they want it to be fancy, th they they want it to be different, everybody has a white remote control with black buttons, and a red button and a green button, not everybody wants that. Finally, my opinion. Joan Colson: Yep. Marlene Dilley: The voice recognition thing is cool. And uh voice recognition, the software, open source software exist already. It's a bit sketchy at some times, uh, you're not gonna get good always accurate results, but for a very fixed number of words, you know you have, how many different words can you have for a remote control, up, down, left, right, channel five, channel seven, you know, how many, you can't have that many words. For a fixed vocabulary it works quite well. I'm pretty sure people would buy it. But after a while people may wanna return it, because if you have to to say som I mean most people use a remote control for switching to channels, and they say they do that about ninety eight percent of the time. Using the remote control, ninety eight percent of the time for changing channels, and that's for flickering through channels. So if you have to say up, up, up, up, if you have to do that all the time, then people might get a bit fed up with that and they may return it. However, oh, because the voice recognition software exists already, there's no need to spend money on research and development, but this does mean the need for microphones in the in the remote control, which is an unusual feature in my opinion. But if we do have the voice recognition thing, there's a lot of stuff that you can uh get rid of. See, you could there're two options. Either you have voice recognition by itself, which I think is a bit impractical for like night time if you wanna be watching television and you wanna be quiet, or I don't know you have a visitor coming round and the remote's only trained for you, it's a bit impractical to have just voice recognition by itself. So you can have voice recognition and a regular remote. But imagine you got rid of the regular remote part, then you can design the remote to look any way you want it to look, because there are no restrictions on physical size, or shape, it it could be as fancy as you want it to be, you know, it could be like a lollipop or something like that, something weird like that. As long as the voice recognition stuff works, that's that's fine. Joan Colson: Okay, yep. Marlene Dilley: So we have the three birds, that we have the the fancy bit, right, the voice recognition's fancy, it's cool, it's different, it's radical, so, and then we have an extra bit I don't remember so I'm pretty sure people will buy the remote, but is it practical to have a voice recognition system in a remote control, I think is a big question. Um, will people will people be willing to wait for the the period that it'll take to train the remote, 'cause I think it will the remote will uh get better over time with the same user user, but for the first week or for the first two weeks are you willing to wait, are you willing to have a bad remote control. And uh what if you have visitors come round, they stay the night, they wanna use the T_V_, they can't use the remote because they speak differently to you. Um, how do you account for regional accents and stuff like that. Uh, will people return the remote control, I think a lot of young people will buy the remote control, if they have the money, you know, so, Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Marlene Dilley: do our audience have the money, but would they return it after a while because it's not as fast as pressing a button, it's not a practical. So. Joan Colson: If Marlene Dilley: These Joan Colson: you could Marlene Dilley: are things Joan Colson: uh Marlene Dilley: I think we should consider. I Joan Colson: sor Marlene Dilley: think it's cool, Joan Colson: if you could speed it up a bit, yeah. Marlene Dilley: I'm sorry? Joan Colson: If you could uh speed it up a bit please, Marlene Dilley: Sure. Joan Colson: yeah. Marlene Dilley: I'm about Joan Colson: Sorry. Marlene Dilley: to end, yeah. Joan Colson: Cool. Marlene Dilley: I think it's cool but there are definitely some considerations. Joan Colson: Okay. Marlene Dilley: So, yeah. Joan Colson: Excellent. Right. Um. Hear from Barbara Dejesus now I think might be an idea. Barbara Dejesus: Okay. Joan Colson: Um, Reba Nix: How did where Joan Colson: you've Reba Nix: did Joan Colson: got your presentation now, Barbara Dejesus: Yeah, Joan Colson: is it Barbara Dejesus: it's Joan Colson: on Barbara Dejesus: in Joan Colson: the Barbara Dejesus: the it's the folder Reba Nix: did you Barbara Dejesus: yeah. Reba Nix: get Joan Colson: is Reba Nix: all your Joan Colson: it? Reba Nix: in Joan Colson: Okay. Reba Nix: information? Marlene Dilley: There was uh a website, Reba Nix: Oh. Marlene Dilley: uh, right here. Reba Nix: Ah, okay. Joan Colson: Technical functions? Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: No. Yeah. Marlene Dilley: G I started making stuff up, then I got an email saying Joan Colson: Okay. Barbara Dejesus: Okay, this is a brief run through of the um of the technical functions of the remote. As um is uh the the the presentation is uh already slightly obsolete because I had in mind something that would uh be i be aimed at controlling multiple devices but uh there's still stuff of relevance, so Joan Colson: Okay. Barbara Dejesus: press on. I've looked at looked at a num uh couple other uh remote control models just an basic design principles. Um and wasn't really satisfied by what I saw I have to say so this is more sort of springboard for uh how these could be improved on. Um um basically the job of the device is to send commands to an appliance, in this case the television set. Um to save you getting off your backside. Um and there's two main trends in th in the sort of design practice. On the one hand and this uh this particularly relates to its sort of earliest models where with you know i so so many buttons on it so about the size of the television set. Um giving you every possible function that the that the device has, the remote control controls. And most of these functions are not going to be used, it creates a rather user unfriendly interface. And on the other hand there's a user focused approach that pares things down to just what what is most likely to get used. Um With uh a and a and of course there is a certain amount of sort of loss of function here obviously, but mostly that's relatively peripheral functions. And so you go for something that's fairly intuitive to use, and um well f the for the most part for T_V_ remote it's uh tha that would be channel control and volume. Um and if you if you if you are wanting to incorporate uh control of a D_V_ D_V_D_ or uh V_C_R_ presumably into that then there's a play, pause, stop, rewind, fast-forward, record, so forth. Um. My own view is that we should definitely be going for a user focused design. Um but uh the pro I think the problem with a lot of the sort of user focused designs that are about is that they sort of make assumptions in advance about what uh what a given user's going to uh want mo want to do from want it to do most. So, something that's uh something that is more programmable, that uh perh perhaps has the full range of functions available to it but you can then specify yourself what you're most likely to want. Um so that those are then immediately accessible through fairly minimal number of controls, um I liked Ebenezer's idea of including a joystick in that and uh possibly a sort of fairly minimal number of sort of function buttons, and have a disp you then have some sort of basic display on it so that if you're um sort of cha changing from different modes for the device it'll tell you just exactly what uh you know each direction of the uh of the um joystick's going to do or wha or what each function button's going to do. Um, this is actually a again slightly taking inspiration off of uh games controllers, Marlene Dilley: Mm. Barbara Dejesus: you know the Playstation control where you have four basic function buttons that are just marked with um distinctive uh geometrical shapes but the and then dependent on what you're doing with it what game and so on um those uh those functions are then sort of further specified. And so it's taking taking the lead from that. Um. Joan Colson: Okay. Yeah. Right. Barbara Dejesus: That's it. Joan Colson: Um, if we could hear from our Industrial engineer, or Reba Nix: Yeah. Joan Colson: Designer. Reba Nix: Uh, I was still working on stuff, I hadn't got it finished. Um, alright. Click to save in where do I have to save it? Joan Colson: If you look on the desktop you'll find that there's a link to the project folder, or project documents. If you save it in there we can open it up from here. Reba Nix: Um, what I've done with it, I'm sorry. Reba Nix: Shit. Um Joan Colson: Are you finding it okay or? Reba Nix: I'm just closing it now. where I've saved it. Marlene Dilley: Well like if you go to one, uh whichever one you were Reba Nix: that's Marlene Dilley: working Reba Nix: it there, yeah. Marlene Dilley: yeah, and you just click file save as. Reba Nix: Oh right. Joan Colson: Okay. Reba Nix: right I'm responsible for working design, uh, this is basically the inside going on of the the uh remote control. So we have the energy source, we have the user interface, this this is what I've seen. Uh the sender will push the button, the chip will respond, uh and then the dig digital signal is sent to the T_V_. So uh uh, if you go to next slide, you'll see you'll see uh what do we need on the user interface. Do we need uh many buttons, or do we need l many light bulbs that could be easier to uh to realise which appliances are on or not. Um, or would that take too much power, would we need more um components in there to supply the power? Um, the joystick is another thing, if we were gonna add that, um, there'd be more components to deal with that. Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Reba Nix: Um, so uh we need to I dunno exactly what That's the design of the the the layout of the uh electronic design, but um obviously there'll be more details once we've decided what we're putting on the user interface. Joan Colson: Okay. Reba Nix: So, that'll be decided, I guess. Uh, and the next slide. Oh, yeah Um, if you go to the next slide then. Joan Colson: Oh. Yeah. Reba Nix: I just used the it was a mess, uh I was just putting adding it together at the end there. Joan Colson: Ah, don't Reba Nix: Uh Joan Colson: worry about it at all mate. Reba Nix: Uh so you have the energy source obviously connected to the chip, and the user interface obviously contains everything. You have the switch turn it on, infrared bulb, uh will contact the T_V_ and will have whatever device or D_V_D_ player, the bulb will turn on to say it's on. Uh, so do we need on the control uh different buttons to decide, or different light bulbs, would it be easier? Um, I dunno what we should decide on that. Joan Colson: Okay. Well. Oh sorry, I'm I'm interrupting you. Are Reba Nix: No, Joan Colson: you Reba Nix: it's finished, Joan Colson: is it Reba Nix: yeah. Joan Colson: yeah? Okay. Right. Um, right we can probably skip that for now. So, we've had some stuff put forward, um along with the new user requirements, um we've had a lot of kind of input I'd say so far. Um I hear what Marlene Dilley's saying about um voice activated control. However I've got a couple of worries about that. The power required, um and the ability Reba Nix: Cost. Joan Colson: to Reba Nix: Mm. Joan Colson: the cost, it seems like for uh an embedded system, this could cause us issues. Um for example you see that there's fairly robust services on uh computers via uh via voice, I_B_M_ do um drag and dictate, Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: but these require a lot of memory and usually um state quite advanced processor requirements. Um voice activation could be an interesting idea but I think that our Ind Industrial Designer would probably upon some research say that it's maybe not feasible. Marlene Dilley: 'Kay. Joan Colson: Um that's just my view Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: right now, however the idea of a joystick and then maybe an L_C_D_ which has been kind of put forward so far, it's almost like having a small T_ not T_V_ to say, but if you can control almost all of the functionality from the display, I don't know how much power an L_C_D_ would take, Marlene Dilley: Mm. Joan Colson: but it might be quite low? Reba Nix: L_C_D_ Marlene Dilley: I uh Reba Nix: on the remote just telling you what's on, or uh, Joan Colson: Well literally Reba Nix: interactive Joan Colson: um Reba Nix: L_C_D_ or Joan Colson: if you can imagine the display maybe slightly larger than um those on a a mobile phone, something Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: where you can read an an um fair amount of information, traverse maybe quite a few menus, if we maybe used mobile phones as a good example, they usually incorporate they have the keypad, and then evr all the other functionality is usually associated inside by traversing around. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: That could be one possibility. Um and then we could have like say the common buttons as you say, Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: volume control, changing channels Barbara Dejesus: I I was thinking that the remote the um sort of default functions for the joystick would be up and down for uh volume, left and right for channels. Joan Colson: We Reba Nix: Do you think that people will get mixed up, like, they'll be looking at this screen and that screen and then, you know, trying to get everything working, would it be a bit confusing? Barbara Dejesus: Um I think probably for the first couple of hours of using it Reba Nix: Yeah. Barbara Dejesus: um but you know muscle memory's a wonderful thing, um. Marlene Dilley: Mm. Barbara Dejesus: And I think and I think that size of uh display was about what I had in mind. Um though I mean I w I would say that uh we could probably probably be required to um mo most of the mobile phone displays you see these days are colour but we should probably try to stick to black and white. Joan Colson: I Barbara Dejesus: Si Joan Colson: would agree with Barbara Dejesus: si Joan Colson: you. Barbara Dejesus: simply to keep m keep the unit cost down. Um I mean colour could be a sort of subsequent development but uh you know cost a bit of extra money f w w w w w once everyone's got the first, you know, oh colour's out, we'll have to replace Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: it won't we. It does nothing extra. Joan Colson: That would be my feeling as well, I think we could possibly create quite a useful user interface. Um Marlene Dilley: Sure Joan Colson: now I mean Marlene Dilley: but Joan Colson: I don't sorry, go for it. Marlene Dilley: the idea of a remote with a menu or and a joystick I think like I h if I was in the habit of buying remote controls then I would want one, but I think we don't have a specific audience, you know, like what is our target audience, what niche are niche are we trying to market and corner. You know, you know what I'm saying, like, for whom is this intended? Everybody? Joan Colson: I think it could probably be aimed at most people who've used a mobile. And that might be just another way of saying try to target most people. Marlene Dilley: Most people, yeah. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: might be s you know um we're kind of almost relying on their experience with a mobile phone I suppose. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: But that does cover a very large section of the people out there. Marlene Dilley: Sure. I think that's fair Joan Colson: Um, Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Marlene Dilley: yeah. Joan Colson: I mean I imagine as well that the actual L_C_D_ and maybe to a certain extent the joystick as well would be for the additional functionality. Which maybe doesn't get used as often, maybe it makes it easy for them to figure out how to um change the channels as in the frequencies and such for reprogramming it. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: Um and you can still have the main buttons that allow the people to turn the machine on and off, d up and down, it depends, I mean maybe we have the fol um the joystick as a separate one for the other functions then, that there's just a a small number of as you were saying uh buttons that have already been defined. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: So like we go for the nice standard um up and down for and volume control. So that literally anybody can come along, pick up the remote and still know what do do. And Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: they can completely ignore most of the functionality which would be for say the o actual owner of the the T_V_ and who would normally use the unit. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: I dunno. Barbara Dejesus: I th the thing I like about the uh the uh joystick is that uh you you you then basically you can then basically put it I mean for for T_ T_ for T_V_ remote alone, you could put um I mean there are like I say the the the main things people do with a T_V_ remote control is the volume and the channel. You can pack all that onto was onto a single control. Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: Um. But uh but the but then o uh obviously if uh you know I mean with things like ch with things like tuning and channels um you know adjusting brightn uh brightness and fiddly things that no one really bothers with, most T_V_s these days actually have menus anyway so Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: this would be a fairly rational way of integra integrating the uh the remote with the device it's controlling. Um concern about our market. Um, if we are I mean most of the uh of the replacement remote market is sort of remote control rationalisation. Um, you've got twenty different devices Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Barbara Dejesus: in your living room, Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: you want one wo y you want one that'll do the job of all of them. Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: Um, if all you're replacing is one of the you know however many remotes you have in your living room, um you know you still need separate remotes for everything else. I just think that uh Joan Colson: Well this Barbara Dejesus: possibly Joan Colson: is a requirement that we have Barbara Dejesus: mm. Joan Colson: to stick to I'm afraid, this isn't one that I've just arbitrarily decided on. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: So um this is this is one of the solid ones that has to be obeyed, for now. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: So I can understand your point, and I would agree with you, but this is our design spec for now. 'Fraid to say. Um Barbara Dejesus: Does that um would that include um access to say interactive functions on digital or cable? Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: I would say so, yes, because then we have to be able to control the remote boxes, and that is a separate unit. Um I think that it I would say that the design spec we've been with is for the television only for now. Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: And until we Marlene Dilley: Hmm. Joan Colson: hear otherwise we should go with just that. Marlene Dilley: Okay, specifically Barbara Dejesus: Okay. Marlene Dilley: television. Joan Colson: Okay. Maybe we'll hear differently, but Marlene Dilley: So Joan Colson: for Marlene Dilley: the Joan Colson: now Marlene Dilley: joystick is just for differentness. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: It would be ease of manipulation of certain functions, Marlene Dilley: Okay. Joan Colson: yes. Barbara Dejesus: Just Joan Colson: Um Barbara Dejesus: a thought. Um maybe then our market should be T_V_ manufacturers, rather than the public. Try and sell it t sell it to them to supply with um Joan Colson: There is that possibility, yes. B However I don't know exactly where we'll be going with that, but Marlene Dilley: Mm. Joan Colson: it might not even be the avenue of Marlene Dilley, that might be sales, Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: who are not in this meeting. Marlene Dilley: It's just, the way I figure it, twelve point five Euros per unit, Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Marlene Dilley: we have to sell at least like three million or something like that, not to account for all the the money we waste on remotes that no one buys, you know, like if we made a perf if we made a ks Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Marlene Dilley: for every remote we made someone bought it, then we have to sell a lot of remote controls. We just Is this gonna be enough to to sell? Joan Colson: Well, something else that you brought up was uh the ability to lose a remote, which as you said you've done, in fact we've probably all done. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: Um, I don't know if it's a gimmick or not, but have any of you ever seen those odd little key rings where if you whistle, it will beep and you tell you where it is. Marlene Dilley: I had Barbara Dejesus: Mm, Marlene Dilley: one of those, Barbara Dejesus: yeah, Marlene Dilley: and my Barbara Dejesus: I've Marlene Dilley: brother, Barbara Dejesus: seen them. Marlene Dilley: and my Joan Colson: Um. Marlene Dilley: dad, could have beat Marlene Dilley up because it it went off all the time accidentally. Joan Colson: Well the other option of course is that um Marlene Dilley: The clapping one. Joan Colson: the well I was going to say clapping, um Um digital telephones, uh for example, one unit has of course you have to have that base unit, somewhere where there's a button, but maybe it's a button that you attach to the T_V_. Marlene Dilley: To a television. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: Something which you when you press that, it would beep to give its location away, on the remote unit. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: And Barbara Dejesus: Yeah, I think that's Joan Colson: that Barbara Dejesus: a good Joan Colson: could Barbara Dejesus: idea. Joan Colson: be something could um Marlene Dilley: Yeah, Joan Colson: separate Marlene Dilley: that's a good idea. Joan Colson: us a bit. And that way, because we're attaching what would be a small button to the T_V_, again say what, it would be a small transmitter, um watch battery type scenario I would say, or something that if it was problems enough you could actually even just um I don't power that might be something that we could look into. Reba Nix: Yeah Joan Colson: Yep. Yeah, it's uh putting a lot on your shoulders there, so I mean that could be something that separates us a bit from the market Marlene Dilley: I Joan Colson: as Marlene Dilley: think Joan Colson: well. Marlene Dilley: so, yeah. Joan Colson: So. To go on from here. Um we have to decide exactly what we're going to do with the remote. Before we leave this meeting, it would be best to say this is what we're going this is the design we're gonna try and get, this is how we're gonna make ourselves look unique. Do we go for Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: maybe a remote contro uh sorry, we're gonna go for a remote control obviously, do we go for a small joystick that would operate say changing channels, up and down, and then, what, another button that would say that it's now being used to manoeuvre round the L_C_D_. Barbara Dejesus: Mm yeah. Reba Nix: We're Barbara Dejesus: Yeah, Reba Nix: just saying volume. Barbara Dejesus: I think that's Reba Nix: Should volume be important in the joystick, do you think? Joan Colson: We could use Barbara Dejesus: Yeah. Joan Colson: say the left and right for changing channels and the up and down Barbara Dejesus: For Joan Colson: for Barbara Dejesus: volume. Joan Colson: volume, Reba Nix: Yep. Marlene Dilley: But Joan Colson: and Marlene Dilley: we have a frequency of how what people use a remote control for most. Joan Colson: Okay. Marlene Dilley: Um, power Reba Nix: I Marlene Dilley: is used like once per hour, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight Joan Colson: Mm-hmm. Marlene Dilley: per hour, that's by far the biggest one, and then teletext, is still here, that's like fourteen, Joan Colson: Vol Marlene Dilley: and volume selection. Joan Colson: Volume selection okay, yep, the teletext we're gambling with, and we're gonna say Marlene Dilley: No, Joan Colson: it's Marlene Dilley: yeah, Joan Colson: dead, Marlene Dilley: okay okay. Joan Colson: the way of the dodo Marlene Dilley: Yeah, um Joan Colson: So we well, sorry, we could maybe even go as far as saying power button, small joystick, L_C_D_, and then what maybe is it one more button to say that you're using the menu system, and with the possibility of pushing down on the joystick to say okay? So we're having very very few buttons involved, Barbara Dejesus: Actually Joan Colson: but Barbara Dejesus: how Joan Colson: navigation around a menu for most things. Barbara Dejesus: Actually I would say maybe two two function buttons, the y we're now using the menus button and um and an og and an okay button. I Joan Colson: Okay. Barbara Dejesus: mean certainly something I've found with the joystick on mo the joysticks on mobile phones is that a lot of the time th the device mistakes you trying to move it in one direction or the other for pushing down for okay. Joan Colson: Okay. Barbara Dejesus: Or vice versa. And that's really irritating. Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: Um Barbara Dejesus: The o the o the other dis design constraint I think we should bear in mind is that people are you know very much used to using a remote control one handedly, um, so we need to make sure that e even with the joystick, you know something that can just sit comfortably in the palm of the hand and have the joystick just controlled by the thumb. Joan Colson: Okay. So um we're actually that sounds like a rough idea. Do we incorporate the idea of trying to f locate the remote control again via a beeping noise? Reba Nix: Yeah, think so. Joan Colson: Do Marlene Dilley: Um, I think Joan Colson: you Marlene Dilley: because Joan Colson: mind looking? Marlene Dilley: it's so small it might be an uh I mean if we only have like two three buttons it might be essential to have to have Joan Colson: The ability Marlene Dilley: that Joan Colson: to locate it again. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: So that would require a um transmitter maybe attached to the T_V_, just so that it says find Marlene Dilley, and what, a basically a small microphone um on the actual unit, can maybe hide it in Reba Nix: Light Joan Colson: the base. Reba Nix: bulb as Barbara Dejesus: Oh. Reba Nix: well, no? Joan Colson: Sorry? Barbara Dejesus: So so a small speaker you mean. Marlene Dilley: Speaker Joan Colson: Some speaker, sorry, yeah. Marlene Dilley: yeah. Reba Nix: And a light bulb? No. To flash. No. Joan Colson: Um Reba Nix: Nah, you'd see it anyway, if you hear Joan Colson: E Reba Nix: it. Joan Colson: us we might be better with the sound possibly Marlene Dilley: W Reba Nix: Yeah. Joan Colson: we could maybe Marlene Dilley: those Joan Colson: incorporate Marlene Dilley: little key-rings have both, so Joan Colson: th e the true fact, considering the cost of an L_E_D_, Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: we could just incorporate it anyway. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: The L_E_D_s can be surprisingly bright now. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Reba Nix: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: Um. Barbara Dejesus: Blue ones particularly. Plus that's a nice wee design touch. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Joan Colson: So by the sounds of it, with what we're suggesting so far, your design um the user interface is still quite open, you could go for quite an interesting design. Because Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: we're only going to have a very few key and you've got you know a small L_C_D_, joystick, e I think it leaves you open to a a potential wide range of shapes, something that can make it stand out slightly. Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: Um if you could look into what we've suggested so far, the feasibility of um small transmitter, um and such, maybe if an L_C_D_ screen requires too much power, or such. Ebenezer, um, Marketing Expert Marlene Dilley: Well I can give you the frequency, what people what options people use most often, I guess that's gonna be important in the ts defining the the software side of the interface, right. You Joan Colson: If, Marlene Dilley: want the stuff. Joan Colson: yeah if you could maybe as well see what people think about the idea of this minimalist approach that we've taken, where of a joystick to control the very basic functions, Marlene Dilley: Okay. Joan Colson: and then the idea of manipulating it like you would a mobile. Marlene Dilley: Okay. Joan Colson: I don't know how easy that will be within the time frame, but could Marlene Dilley: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: be something we could maybe look into. Marlene Dilley: Sure. Sure. Joan Colson: Okay. Um any last comments that anybody would like to put forward? Anything that they think has been missed out. Bit of a wide open question there of course. Marlene Dilley: Mm. Joan Colson: Feel free to email Marlene Dilley if you think that uh we've screwed something up and wanna get it rectified as soon as possible. Marlene Dilley: Sure. 'Kay. Joan Colson: Right. Marlene Dilley: Yeah. Reba Nix: So I should just look at um the speaker, the speaker and an L_E_D_. And Joan Colson: Speaker and L_E_D_ for locating, um, Reba Nix: Yeah, Marlene Dilley: Transmitter. Reba Nix: and a transmitter. Joan Colson: transmitter Barbara Dejesus: Actually one one wee thought about that. Um, if we do end up trying to market this to television manufacturers then the um then the transmitter could actually be built into the television. Joan Colson: getting the external power source, yep, that's quite true. Um, and something that we can can easily be adopted at the last minute as well I'd say. Barbara Dejesus: Yeah. Joan Colson: The electronics could be s either placed externally or internally, makes no difference Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: to the final product of the actual remote control, so that's good. Uses maybe gives us a new potential market. Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: 'Kay. Barbara Dejesus: You know Reba Nix: P Barbara Dejesus: I think I mean if it w if we get a major television manufacturer to say y oh yeah we'll have that, save us the bother, then that's you know vast amounts of sales. Quite quickly. Joan Colson: Oh, one thing that we've almost not talked about at all, my apologies for that, um, user interface, we also need to maybe get the slogan in here, um it's, Reba Nix: Fashion. Joan Colson: I'm pointing at my laptop, what in God Real reaction, and such. So um Reba Nix: The slogan is yeah, Joan Colson: Oh, sorry. Reba Nix: the slogan's we put the fashion in electronics, isn't it? Joan Colson: My apologies. No it could well be, I've probably missed that. Um, Reba Nix: 'S also Joan Colson: I Reba Nix: look Joan Colson: think Reba Nix: cool. Joan Colson: that's l almost the last minute thing we can just incorporate into the actual plastic on top. So Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Joan Colson: I'm not too concerned a that we haven't gone into depth about that. But it might be something you could consider when you're thinking about shapes? In fact we might Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: like to put a slogan on, and um Barbara Dejesus: Mm-hmm. Joan Colson: possibly the two R_s to signify the company. Rather than real reaction. Barbara Dejesus: Mm. Yeah. I thought the uh the d the double arc could perhaps uh be the uh the enter button. Joan Colson: Sounds good. And I'd say that that's us for now. Okay.	Joan Colson recapped the events of the previous meeting and briefed the team on some new requirements the team must follow when designing the remote. Marlene Dilley presented research on consumer preferences and user requirements for remotes. Marlene Dilley also presented information regarding voice recognition and what demographic finds the feature appealing. Barbara Dejesus described the technical functions of a remote and stressed the need for a user focused design. Reba Nix discussed the interior workings of a remote. The team then discussed the option to include voice recognition, LCD, and a feature to locate a misplaced remote. The team briefly discussed who they were aiming their product to along with the idea of marketing their product to television manufacturers. The team also decided on some features to include in their product.	4	amisum	train
Kathline Siegrist: Alright, yeah. crack on Okay. so we'll start off with a quick overview of the minutes. I think to sum up the last meeting, would be to say um the requirements that we've um set out. Those are we were going to go for what seemed to be a fairly minimal design based on uh a small joystick, L_C_D_ and a couple of other buttons for navigation um with power being I suppose one of the main single purpose buttons. Um we were also going to use novelty of being able to locate the remote control again via a small transmitter with any luck, the idea to try and separate us and also because of the minimal design um looks like we'll be able to be fairly adventurous in the actual physical shape of our remote control with any luck. Um that pretty much sums up the last one. So we'll just crack on, um like to maybe start with Estelle Collins if it's possible. Estelle Collins: Uh Kathline Siegrist: Um Estelle Collins: uh okay. Kathline Siegrist: uh Estelle Collins: I'll just Kathline Siegrist: the con today is the concep today. This uh meeting is the conceptual design phase and is um Sorry about this. And is to cover things like um what the parts might be made of, um, can we uh outsource these from elsewhere, um will we have to construct any items ourselves? Estelle Collins: Uh I have a presentation I just saved it in the uh Kathline Siegrist: Yeah, okay Estelle Collins: the Kathline Siegrist: well I'll just uh Estelle Collins: folder. Kathline Siegrist: I'll load it up then. Um. Which one Estelle Collins: Uh. Kathline Siegrist: do y Oh, interface concept? Mary Batista: Yeah, that's Kim Spina. Kathline Siegrist: That's you. We've got trend watching, that's Estelle Collins: It's Kathline Siegrist: you. Estelle Collins: uh Components design. Kathline Siegrist: Components design. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Estelle Collins: Alright. So Uh. The case uh le that's what I wrote first of all, could be plastic our plastic. Uh but later on we found out that um it can be rubber as well, or titanium or even wood. So uh we decide what it's gonna be. Probably plastic. Uh we need infra-red transmitter. Get that off the shelf. Uh joystick we'll probably if we're gonna use it, um could be plastic w or rubber even as well. Um if you go on to the next slide. Uh If you go on to f uh findings, it's like two or three slides down. Right. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Estelle Collins: So, this is what I found we can use. Uh three different types of batteries. Um can either use a hand dynamo, or the kinetic type ones, you know that they use in watches, or Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Estelle Collins: else uh a solar powered one. Um. Kathline Siegrist: Now, the kinetic one, Kim Spina: Cost Kathline Siegrist: we've Kim Spina: is Kathline Siegrist: 'cause that's the ones where like you the movement causes Kim Spina: Yeah. Estelle Collins: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: it. Um the bat uh the battery for a a watch wouldn't require a lot of power, would be my one query. Is Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: a kinetic one going to be able to supply enough power? Mary Batista: There's Kathline Siegrist: Do Mary Batista: also Kathline Siegrist: you Estelle Collins: Uh. Kathline Siegrist: think? Mary Batista: a watch moves around a great deal more. Kathline Siegrist: W Estelle Collins: Yeah, Kim Spina: Yeah. Estelle Collins: I don't think it would. Um. And solar cells, I dunno about that. Kim Spina: yeah. Estelle Collins: Uh. We should probably just use conventional batteries. Um, just like in usual remote controls. Kathline Siegrist: Which I suppose Estelle Collins: Um. Kathline Siegrist: as well would allow us to go off the shelf again, you'd say? Estelle Collins: Yeah. Um. And these are three different types of or two different types three different types of shapes you can have. Uh one is a flat one, and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved. Um the materials are tha there as you can see, but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved, uh which would Kim Spina: Titanium, Estelle Collins: be Kim Spina: the really strong metal, titanium? Estelle Collins: Yeah, Kim Spina: Is it not Estelle Collins: and Kim Spina: also Estelle Collins: light. Kim Spina: it's expensive? Estelle Collins: Uh, i think so as well, yeah. They make Kathline Siegrist: Um. Estelle Collins: mountain bikes out of that, don't they. Kathline Siegrist: Um. Estelle Collins: So it's really light as well. Kathline Siegrist: Curious. Um, I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not, the single curved and double curved, would you be able to give an example? Estelle Collins: Um. Kathline Siegrist: Um could you maybe Estelle Collins: T Kathline Siegrist: draw Estelle Collins: yeah. Kathline Siegrist: something? I you don't doesn't have to be perfect, it's just 'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two. Estelle Collins: Uh. Well for a curved, well I was thinking to f for to sit in your the palm of your hand. Uh maybe like this, with the uh joy pad here. Joystick here. And maybe um an okay button around here, so that the thumb can uh use it quite easily. Um I don't exactly Double curved. It probably means this is probably double curved. Uh whereas a single curved would be like that. I guess. Or not necessarily. Kathline Siegrist: So it might literally just be Kim Spina: Two curves. Kathline Siegrist: okay. Estelle Collins: Yeah like that. Whereas this is two curves. Um so I guess that's what they mean Kathline Siegrist: Alright. Estelle Collins: by uh double curve. Um which obviously it looks better than the single curve, but uh you can't have it in titanium, which is uh a nice material. Kathline Siegrist: Mm. Estelle Collins: Uh and for the buttons, um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s. Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use, and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive. So you have to decide, there's trade-offs there. Um if you want the buttons to be oh yeah, if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber, then you have these rubber buttons as well. But you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days. You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want. You wanna enter just the number of it, if you know it. So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway. Do you think? Kathline Siegrist: Okay, that was definitely something we can talk about. Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well? Estelle Collins: Yeah. So, depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display. Kathline Siegrist: Um, do you have any idea so far, like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_, does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount? Or? Kim Spina: Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_. Is that did I Kathline Siegrist: Well I think compared Estelle Collins: Yep. Kathline Siegrist: to say just pressing buttons. Kim Spina: Advanced, like Kathline Siegrist: if you press Kim Spina: three eight Kathline Siegrist: a Kim Spina: six Kathline Siegrist: button Kim Spina: advance. Kathline Siegrist: that sends a certain transmission through the infra-red, whereas I think if we're controlling the L_C_D_ we definitely require a much more powerful chip. Kim Spina: Okay. Kathline Siegrist: Just compared to the chip you would use for pushing buttons I think is the Kim Spina: Okay, Kathline Siegrist: the Kim Spina: sure. Kathline Siegrist: point being made. Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: If I've not over-stepped. Yeah? Estelle Collins: Yeah i Kathline Siegrist: Okay, um should I go on, or go back? Estelle Collins: Um Kim Spina: Mm, if we only have twelve Pounds fifty, twelve Euros, not even twelve Pounds. Twelve Euros, what's that, like eight pounds or something like that, nine Pounds? Kathline Siegrist: Well we'd also be relying on the um the bulk buying in producement and such. Kim Spina: Okay, that's Kathline Siegrist: I Kim Spina: good Kathline Siegrist: assume. Kim Spina: point. Kathline Siegrist: We have to look into the costs of those. So, sorry. Estelle Collins: Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control. If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does, translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_. Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Estelle Collins: And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons, the rubber buttons, uh to uh get sent to the chip. So that's just how the control works inside. Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Um. So in the information that you've been supplied, how feasible would you say that the idea of using an L_C_D_ looks? Estelle Collins: Um I think we can do it if uh we use conventional batteries and not have solar cells or kinetic. Um and then maybe use single curved uh case. Because we might need it to be curved for the uh thumb to use the joyst joystick easily. Um and then you'll need the advanced chip obviously for the L_C_D_. Kathline Siegrist: Um I mean that sounds like quite a good requirement to Kim Spina. Um conventional battery would seem to make sense. Um Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: I'm not sure if there's any cost differences between single and double curved and I'm I don't know about anybody else, but plastic or rubber as a traditional form of casing would seem to be Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: a good way forward? Mary Batista: Um I'm actually gonna be bold and go oo go straight for rubber um for reasons I'll go into Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Mary Batista: uh Kim Spina: I also Mary Batista: in more Kim Spina: have Mary Batista: detail. Kim Spina: a preference for rubber. Kathline Siegrist: Okay, well um Kim Spina: Based on my research. Kathline Siegrist: Yeah, well will we move on to user interface, and yeah? Um Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: sorry, as long as were you? Estelle Collins: Yep I'm finished. Kathline Siegrist: Yeah. Okay. Um and d d d interface concept. Mary Batista: Yep. Now I'm gonna have to work between the uh the slides and the uh Kathline Siegrist: Yeah. Mary Batista: and the white board 'cause I actually I have some fairly concrete things this time. Uh um I was given a H_T_M_L_ file giving um various ideas from uh from other previous remote control designs, and pretty much decided to just dump them all. I wasn't very impressed by them and they didn't seem to re uh nothing I saw seemed to meet the sorts of design specifications that we're going for today. Um so what I ra rather than looking at other remotes, uh ra oomp be better to simply look at the human hand. Um and try and f um and try and figure out a way of laying out the elements we've already decided on, um so that if r a if so that the finger is e each finger or thumb is wherever it needs to be already. Um so uh next slide, if you please. Um and what we've basically decided on was the the um the joy uh the joystick, two function buttons and the L_C_D_, just keep it paired down to the absolute minimum. I don't actually think we need the um the numeric keypad because if you m because one of the menus that we could have available um v via via the L_C_D_ is one where you scroll through channels, so if there's something f and be bear in mind since this isn't meant to work for um Kim Spina: digital. Estelle Collins: Ah, okay. Mary Batista: f f f for di for digital or um or for or for cable, whatever, you're basically looking at four or five terrestrial channels, and then um your V_C_ uh and then the channel through your V_C_R_ and or D_V_D_ player. And or um box. So it's not I'm not really excessively concerned about that. You must have two two modes, basic mode, where um the joystick's uh left right left right for channels, up down for volume, um and the uh uh and the menu mode for uh further functions. Um now the reason I was particularly interested in using rubber for this is that if we're going to have a highly ergonomic design, um it needs to be ergonomic for left or right handed people. Um, Kathline Siegrist: Can I Mary Batista: so you Kathline Siegrist: just jump in slightly there? Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: That would suggest the double curved design's probably going to be most appropriate, then. Mary Batista: Yes, absolutely. Kathline Siegrist: okay. Mary Batista: Um, basi basically what I basically what the what be having um, I would say, the the whole thing articulated at two points, so that if you if you're handing it from a lef uh left or right handed user you can adjust it so that the um the L_C_ the L_C_D_ and the uh The joystick would be in the right place. And Kathline Siegrist: Mm. Mary Batista: also this is a rather nicer de uh design gimmick that the the um you know the whole thing you know it should have sort of organic feel to it that it should be, you know, soft to touch and can be moved around all nice. Um Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Mary Batista: okay Kathline Siegrist: Um, Mary Batista: on to Kathline Siegrist: yeah. Mary Batista: on to the next uh to the next slide. Kathline Siegrist: Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well, Mary Batista: Okay. Kathline Siegrist: because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say, I guess. Mary Batista: Yeah, 'kay basically um I can add pretty pictures to this. The um Assuming the hand the hand to be in about sort of this position, um hol uh holding the remote, the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb. Um and it would need t there would need to be a it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users. So. You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness. You just have big two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can in the upper part, one for the four finger, one for the middle finger. Um, Kim Spina: Is this the Mary Batista: and Kim Spina: joystick? Mary Batista: that Th this part here is the joystick. This would be the actual grip. Probably where you'd want to have the battery as well. Kim Spina: Okay. Mary Batista: That would be probably the bulkiest part. And you then have, at the uh at the bottom, the L_C_D_, and this would need to be articulated as well. And basically I'd want this to rest here, right at the base of the wrist. So it would fit just nicely in the hand. And again, this part could be rotated, so it can So so so that it can be adjusted to either left or right handed user. Um So the t uh the top function button in basic mode would be the on off switch and menu mode would be the enter button. And then the bottom function buttons switches between between modes. Um now programming it actually thi this is one thing I've found with um the replacement remote control. Programming them can be a right pain. So I thought th the simplest way around that would be to have um a cable to connect it to the computer some fair iv fairly fairly simple software on the computer just so that you on your computer just so that you could um pr program it at a rather in a rather more comfortable interface. And you could download programs for it from uh for uh T_V_s from all sort of main manufacturers. Um though you i it would be necessary to have uh have a m uh have a ha have a mode for programming it without the computer, uh just in case there are there are still people left out there who don't have them yet. Kim Spina: Mm. Mary Batista: Um. But uh. Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Mary Batista: That's that's my idea. Kathline Siegrist: Excellent, right. Kim Spina: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: Um uh. Kim Spina: 'Kay. Kathline Siegrist: File open. Kim Spina: We go. Kathline Siegrist: Trend watching. Kim Spina: Okay. So uh to gather my research, two basic methods. We compared uh whether people want the remote control to do a lot of stuff or they want it to look cool. And then we we research uh fashion trends in Europe, what's what's the new black, you know, as it goes. Next slide please. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Kim Spina: Uh we found, in order of importance, people want the remote control to look cool more than they want it to to be cool. As in they want it to do a lot of good s they want it to look like it does a lot, and if it does do a lot that's a bonus, but they don't care so much, you know. They want it to be that's sounds a bit like a contradiction. Technology technical technologically innovative. People want it to be that, but s still they care more about the way it looks than what it does. So like the interface is really important. And easy to use, it it just so happens that uh from the second point to the third point is twice as important I mean the second point is twice as important as the third point. People want it I is it has to be cooler than easy to use, you know, if it has the newest features, even if it's difficult to use, prefer it to have the newest features. And if it's easy to use that's a bonus. The fashion, now this is seems a bit odd to Kim Spina, but fruit and veg is the new is the new black for furniture, for clothes, for shoes. How that relates to a remote control I don't know. But I I see I come on to that in the next in the next slide. Spongy. I've als I've been saying everything's the new black. Well spongy's the new black as well. So we have the choice between rubber and plastic. If it's the type of rubber that you can squeeze, you know, it's spongy, then Estelle Collins: Oh Kim Spina: can Estelle Collins: yeah, Kim Spina: I Estelle Collins: I Kim Spina: skip Estelle Collins: forgot to Kim Spina: the Estelle Collins: mention Kim Spina: rest? Estelle Collins: that. The uh rubber material is the type of stress ball material, Kim Spina: Okay. Estelle Collins: not just normal rubber. Kim Spina: Okay, Estelle Collins: Forgot Kim Spina: so Estelle Collins: to say that. Kim Spina: kinda spongy material. So Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Kim Spina: um so my personal opinion? Um we want something fancy and techni technologically innovative, obviously. But what we what we need is something that looks like it's from the future that looks cool, that's that's different, you know, that's everyone has a white remote control, black remote control, you need something cool. Like, titanium is cool but it's expensive. And maybe it's a bit of overkill for a remote control. Um now the fruit and veg options, either we we go in that direction or we stay totally away from it. Um I mean the research did come up with fruit and veg, so maybe it is important for it's the up to the interface guy. So if we stay away from it, s you know stay away from it, but if we're gonna go along with it then it doesn't necessarily have to be like an apple or something like that, or a kiwi fruit. It could be something like, I say potato peeler but I'm sure you guys have a have a much cooler idea than I do. So I think cool is the key. Few questions about a spongy remote control. I've never seen one before. I've seen plastic remote controls. I think maybe they were I don't know, back in the day when they first came up with remote controls, they had a reason for it being Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: sturdy, you know. For being strong and sturdy. So um if we want something strong and sturdy, I say stay with plastic or titanium, but if we go with spongy, we can stress that you can drop this as many times as you want, it doesn't matter, it's spongy material, it's not gonna break, you know. I just don't know how the L_E_D_ and the lights are gonna fit into a spongy material because it's not gonna be completely squeezable. So how do things fit it? And if we are gonna use spongy, we can say it's long lasting, you know it's damage resistant and stuff like that, so. So just to summarise, people want stuff that's cool, that's that looks like it's cool, and if it is cool then that's a bonus doesn't have to be um people like fruit and veg. We can either go down that alley or stay totally away from it. People like spongy material. we have to think of how practical it is, and how we can further promote that idea. And also, this was this year. So, things change all the time, every year you know they they always talk about this year, this is the new black. Well next year something else is gonna be the Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: new black and we're stuck with last year's fruit and veg type stuff. 'Kay. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Kim Spina: That's Kim Spina. Kathline Siegrist: Well, um I would say that the most you could probably hope for is gaining a year's lead on most people anyway. You always have to bring out new designs, so if we can get next year then that's possibly a good place to start anyway. Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: Um. Seems like a a lot of the components could be off the shelf, so I don't exactly what cost would be incurred. Um I can see your point about the number keypad, but I've I would say that we can probably incorporate it into the menu system Estelle Collins: Yeah. Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: if you need to do traversal of a large number of channels. would be that even if at a later date this was to be taking control of um boxes as well um having the use of the L_C_D_ and the joystick would probably allow you to manipulate enough channel numbers for you to be Mary Batista: Yeah, actually if you've got a lot of channels, the number keypad can be quite annoying as well, becau it's you know if you're trying to remember what uh, you know, what number's the discovery channel or whatever. It's just Kim Spina: That's Mary Batista: irritating. Kim Spina: a good point. You can Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: incorporate Mary Batista: But if you Kim Spina: names Mary Batista: h but but Kim Spina: into Mary Batista: but Kim Spina: the Mary Batista: if Kim Spina: menu. Mary Batista: you have a Kim Spina but if you have a menu structure, then you can sub-group them. Kim Spina: Okay. Mary Batista: So Kim Spina: Even Kathline Siegrist: Okay. Mary Batista: you Kim Spina: news, music. Like they do on uh sky digital kinda. Mary Batista: Yeah. Kim Spina: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: So what it looks like to Kim Spina is we'll use a large number of standard components, um, say something like um lithium ion battery, the kind that you find in most um small hand held devices now. Um Looks like we going for a double curved design. Um I don't know what cost implications there are in that. Um, looks like we're pretty much decided on some kind of flexible rubber. Though I'd have to say depending on how flexible it is, we might need to have some kind of inner frame. Mary Batista: Yeah, I I would say definitely, I mean I mean I mean the the idea of having it sort of articulated i th there would be basically two points of articulation. W um one below and one above the m the uh the main sort of grip. Kathline Siegrist: Do you Mary Batista: So Kathline Siegrist: think there's any way we could maybe remove the articulation? I can see why it looks appealing, but it could be a weak point in um the structure, do you think? That would Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: be a worry of mine. Estelle Collins: If you're going with the fruit and veg thing, looks like a banana. F if you wanna design it that way. Mary Batista: I d I don't thi I don't think that it would be a a structural weakness, I mean if you have a firm s sub-structure, you can then incorporate articulation into that. If you then have a sort of outer skin of mm flexible, spongy rubber then you have something that is you know very much you know organic, and I think would look rather co I mean mi rather cool. I mean my drawing there doesn't doesn't do it justice, it makes it makes it look more a little bit more like a vibrator than a than a uh than a remote control, but uh. Kathline Siegrist: Yeah, we won't add that functionality. Kim Spina: Okay. Course not. Kathline Siegrist: However, one interesting point is, I don't know how serious you were there, but we if we take some of the ideas why don't we make the damn thing yellow to incorporate Estelle Collins: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: the des the colour of the logo? Kim Spina: Sure, Estelle Collins: Okay. Kim Spina: yeah. Kathline Siegrist: I dunno. It's an Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: certainly a different colour from your average um Mary Batista: Make it harder to lose, as well. Estelle Collins: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: That's Kim Spina: Sure. Kathline Siegrist: true. Was there anything in your research Kim Spina: The noise for when you lose the banana, um f yeah, for when you lose the remote control, it could be like a a monkey noise or something like that, rather than a standard beep beep. Y you know, you lose the monkey the banana, y Estelle Collins: monkey. Kim Spina: you lose the banana, you press a button, and you hear like monkey screams or something like that to direct you towards the banana. Mary Batista: I th uh I mean if it I think that's something that could perhaps be programmable, though maybe have monkey as default. Kim Spina: S Mary Batista: Um. Kim Spina: oh, I was gonna talk about the programmable remote control. Now I think it'd be cool if you had one remote control that could work with all T_V_s, you know you s you click a button and it finds the frequency that works with your particular television. Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: But why you'd need to program it like as as a standard feature, I I don't know. Mary Batista: Well basi basically the um for f for uh I mean e each manufacturer will have a partic will have a particular command set that uh Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm. Mary Batista: the T_V_ responds to. It's Kim Spina: Yeah. Mary Batista: not simply a matter of frequency. So um usually what's done is you have this big booklet full of different possi you'll have all of them sort of programmed in to the uh remote, and you'll have this little booklet of codes Kim Spina: Mm-hmm. Mary Batista: you then find your um ma uh find your manufacturer and try the different codes that Kim Spina: Mm-hmm. Mary Batista: come under that manufacturer's name 'til you find the right one. Kim Spina: That's Mary Batista: It's Kim Spina: because televisions, they don't give the remote control any type of feedback when you send it. Mary Batista: Yeah, that's right. Kim Spina: Okay. Mary Batista: So that's that's quite annoying and we probably would still have to do that. But if we had um some sort of hook-up to your computer as an option, then if you've got a computer you can avoid that rather irritating thing. Kathline Siegrist: An interesting point is that if the person doesn't have the computer, we can still make the process easier because instead of having to look up codes, maybe we can have it that one of the options they have is that they look up the name of the company on the L_C_D_ and then Mary Batista: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: they maybe look up different names Mary Batista: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: of um different actual units that have been produced. Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function, and such. Kim Spina: Is it is it actually a book of names to digits, or is it like a few pages? Mary Batista: Um booklet. Some pages. Kim Spina: I was just thinking, if we were to store this information, some type of mapping. This person probably need to use this feature like once, you know, when you first buy the remote control, or whenever they buy a new television, so once Mary Batista: Yeah. Kim Spina: every Kathline Siegrist: Doesn't have Kim Spina: s Kathline Siegrist: to be used very often that's right, yeah. Kim Spina: Yeah, Mary Batista: Yeah. Kim Spina: and it's Mary Batista: But it's a but it's a nuisance. And it's a nuisance very close to the to um to actually purchasing it, Kim Spina: Mm. Mary Batista: so it's something that you're likely to be thinking about. If you if there's w i if there's one in the shop that's that says it can avoid much of that nuisance, you might be Kim Spina: Mm. Mary Batista: favourably inclined towards it. Um mm. Kathline Siegrist: Okay, this just to give us a Kim Spina: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: rough idea of what we're meant to be doing for the next stage. I'm pretty sure that you got that anyway. This is the conceptual one. Um. I think we've come up I think we've covered everything we need to here. Um I think we've decided on what, you know, decided on standard items for most of um rubber and such, so we're now looking at the detailed design and what we need to be doing for the next meeting. Um So for example, um I'll just start at the top, you've got yourself and Estelle Collins gonna be working quite closely at this stage 'cause it'll be hard not to, obviously. Um looking from prototyping of some des description using clay. Um I suppose you'll be told a lot more about that as uh progress. Um The user interface design, They're kind of it looks they're the idea I've pushed forward so far is maybe more of a physical one there, whereas possibly be more interested in maybe how the L_C_D_'s going to incorporate, do you think? Or Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout? Mary Batista: Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it, um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are are made, I would say. Um but then again, the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television, and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate. So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it. Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm, that's very true. Um. Okay. Um got product evaluation as well. Kim Spina: Yeah, Kathline Siegrist: Um. Kim Spina: you see I don't some of these things kinda logically follow the others. How can t product evaluation, doesn't that come after actually seen a product Kathline Siegrist: I Kim Spina: prototype. Kathline Siegrist: I think we'd be yeah, no, it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with. Kim Spina: Oh, that's the okay, sure sure sure. Kathline Siegrist: Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out, uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places Kim Spina: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: which I suppose is quite similar. Or just kind of hitting the streets and you know saying this is a new remote control, what do you think of the look of it? Kim Spina: Okay, sure. Kathline Siegrist: Um Kim Spina: At this stage we still have no no target audience or Kathline Siegrist: I think the target audience is pretty much anybody under the age of say maybe sixty or something ludicrous. Kim Spina: 'Kay. Kathline Siegrist: Um the reason I'm saying that is we're just looking at a a replacement remote control, something that's stylish, so maybe you're even just maybe you're narrowing down your target audience simply by saying Kim Spina: And it's stylish. Kathline Siegrist: if they're buying it that often or they're maybe looking to replace something then, they've got a bit of free cash, so that puts them potentially in the younger age bracket. Kim Spina: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: Maybe even single, just for the reasons of um uh excess cash flow. Kim Spina: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: Although of course I mean at twenty five Euros, I don't think we're looking at charging the earth for the uh device. Kim Spina: Yep. Mary Batista: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: Think that's Kim Spina: Okay. Kathline Siegrist: well within the normal bracket. Um your idea of the U_S_B_ would I think would largely depend on the cost. U_S_B_'s definitely one of the cheapest interfaces out there, but it might push the cost of the overall unit up 'cause it would require not just the connection but the chip for communicating with the rest of the system. That one Kim Spina: Programmable Kathline Siegrist: might have to be based Kim Spina: memory Kathline Siegrist: on Kim Spina: as well. Estelle Collins: The U_S_B_ for which? Kim Spina: For the remote control. Kathline Siegrist: The the idea was that maybe it could connect up for um allowing a software interface on the P_C_ Estelle Collins: Oh Kathline Siegrist: for Estelle Collins: right, Kathline Siegrist: a Estelle Collins: okay. Kathline Siegrist: larger programming due to the fact that we've gone for such a nice, easy minimal design, normally. Kim Spina: We've w Kathline Siegrist: Um. Kim Spina: definitely talking some type of Estelle Collins: But didn't they just say it's just for T_V_, or are we gonna Kathline Siegrist: It's just for T_V_, but for Kim Spina: Different. Kathline Siegrist: programming it to use your T_V_, you Estelle Collins: Okay, Kathline Siegrist: might hook Estelle Collins: yeah. Kathline Siegrist: it up to the P_C_. I I'm not sure, but I'm thinking maybe that the additional cost of the U_S_B_ might be prohibitive. Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: We don't know unless it would make sense to. Kim Spina: But Mary Batista: Yeah, Kim Spina: you're Mary Batista: I mean Kim Spina: gonna Mary Batista: it's Kim Spina: need some type of flash memory or something. Well something that doesn't you Mary Batista: Yeah. Kim Spina: wouldn't have to redo the whole thing once the batteries are changed, you know, once Mary Batista: Yeah. Kim Spina: you turn off the power. Mary Batista: The other thing I mean it I mean it would need to ha it would need to have um some sort of on board memory Kim Spina: Yeah. Mary Batista: anyway. Um f for one for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know, it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device, the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and Kim Spina: Different Mary Batista: uh Kim Spina: languages, uh different skins Kathline Siegrist: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: and stuff like Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kim Spina: that. Kathline Siegrist: W Mary Batista: How uh how uh how you want say the um the the menu structure for flicking through channels if you've got lots of channels. Kim Spina: Sure. I Mary Batista: That sort Kim Spina: if Mary Batista: of Kim Spina: it Mary Batista: thing. Kim Spina: was customisable as in different languages and stuff, that does open it is supposed to be international, right? So. Kathline Siegrist: It would make sense to. Kim Spina: It would make sense Kathline Siegrist: I would Kim Spina: if Kathline Siegrist: say Kim Spina: you could Kathline Siegrist: to. Um and we'd better be careful about the time as well. Kim Spina: Okay. Kathline Siegrist: We've already had the five minute warning, so. Um. I would say yeah. International would make sense. Um you're gonna look at product evaluation. I'm I'd better start writing up a hell of a lot of crap. Um you're gonna look a bit more at the kind of the physical make up you say. Um looks Mary Batista: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: like we're gonna need a maybe a kind of prototype in clay. Uh we'll see how that goes. Um. Mary Batista: Are we going to be supplied with the clay is what I want to know. Where is the clay? Kathline Siegrist: So um do I think we've got an idea of where we need to go for the next meeting, would you say? Kim Spina: Yeah. Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Estelle Collins: they're going with the fashion thing, like Kim Spina: The fruit and Estelle Collins: the Kim Spina: veg. Estelle Collins: design, spongy Kim Spina: This one. Estelle Collins: rubber. Yeah. Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: Yeah, I would s that would be my Mary Batista: I Kathline Siegrist: my Mary Batista: th Kathline Siegrist: feeling. Mary Batista: I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing. Bu but um but the spongy idea I like. I like it a lot. Kathline Siegrist: We Kim Spina: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: seem to have quite a general consensus that the idea of the the r rubber could be quite Kim Spina: Yeah. Mary Batista: I having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea, though maybe we could have options for colours as well. Kim Spina: Yeah. Mary Batista: and again this has the advantage of being harder to lose. Kim Spina: Sure. I mean we are trying to promote a remote control, but we wanna keep the company brand as well, so. Mary Batista: Mm-hmm. Kathline Siegrist: Yeah. So we always need to remember that somewhere we're meant to be getting the slogan on. Possibly I'm think I'm not sure but I'm seeing a little bit of space around maybe the joystick area which could Mary Batista: Mm. Kathline Siegrist: be used. Mary Batista: Yeah. Kathline Siegrist: Um. Mary Batista: I was like like I said before I I think we should have the R_R_ on the uh on the top function button. Kathline Siegrist: Okay. And I think that says it all really. Kim Spina: I think so too. Kathline Siegrist: Right. See Kim Spina: Sa Kathline Siegrist: everybody in a half hour.	Kathline Siegrist recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Estelle Collins presented options for batteries, materials and shapes to use for the case, buttons, and chips. Mary Batista discussed how to create an interface for an ergonomic remote which conforms to the shape and movements of the human hand, as well as an option in which users could connect their remotes to computers in order to download program settings. Kim Spina discussed findings from trendwatching reports, which indicated a need for products which look fancy, are technologically innovative, are easy to use, have a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy. The team then discussed what materials and components to use, the color of the remote, and programming options for the remote.	4	amisum	train
Casey Kitchens: That should hopefully do the trick, um. Casey Kitchens: 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. Ashley Jones: Okay, it's a Casey Kitchens: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Ashley Jones: I Casey Kitchens: but Ashley Jones: think if we step up and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well the point of view operating the function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the base of the joystick just a little bit for Casey Kitchens: Okay. Ashley Jones: uh ju just a thought. You could simply have a slightly ovoid shaped joystick that could then just be turn uh twisted round, so that the uh sticky uh so that the bit that sticks out a bit more is on one side or the other. But as you as you see with the uh with holding it in the left hand, the L_ uh the L_C_D_ is nowhere useful, so that would need to be articulated uh if we're going to retain ergonomic design. Um now I I got your note about uh keeping the cost down. Casey Kitchens: I'm afraid yeah. Ashley Jones: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: We'll go into that a bit more, but please go on. Ashley Jones: this design could be done with um with uh plastic casing. Though I would recommend around the grip part here in the middle, having maybe just a rubber grip over that which would allow for a slightly more sort of bio-morphic form, and a bit more ergonomic as well. As for the um as for the single curve, um well this edge and this edge, like I say it would be nice to have some curvature to it, but it's not absolutely necessary. Really the curve that's most needed is the underside so that the jo so that the joystick rests over the the edge of the hand like this. Um and you have the uh transmitter here and a wee speaker for the uh for the uh for the uh fi uh for the remote control finder. So. Any further comments? Jessie Gowdy: Um obviously it's gonna be bulkier looks, because it's gonna be flat on one side, so the L_C_D_ will be s sticking down like this, won't it? Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: 'Cause it you can't get it curved. Uh Ashley Jones: Yeah, I mean the Jessie Gowdy: because of costs. Ashley Jones: uh Jessie Gowdy: And it's Ashley Jones: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: plastic as well, so it won't be as comfortable on the hand. Casey Kitchens: Mm. Ashley Jones: Yeah. I mean with the with the rubber design it could i you know it could pretty much mould very much to the to the user's hand. One nice wee feature if we could if we could still do the rubber, I though of was to have the uh rubber extend beyond the end of the uh of the rigid substructure. So it has a wee sort of tail that you just drape over your wrist so it stays in position nicely. Mm. Lovely. Um. Jessie Gowdy: Yeah, Casey Kitchens: Okay, yeah. Great. Cynthia Pettis: Right. Casey Kitchens: Um. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah I've got a if load up my evaluation Casey Kitchens: Yeah, okay. Cynthia Pettis: document. Ashley Jones: Okay. Casey Kitchens: Excellent work. Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Casey Kitchens: Um. Cynthia Pettis: Uh evaluation. Cynthia Pettis: Basic point uh have a list of criteria that we need to rate the prototype by. Um then we will it's a seven s um seven seven step kinda evaluation process. So um not seven steps, seven scale. So after we've finished doing all the ratings for each criteria, we average that and that will give us some type of uh confidence in our prototype. And uh the on Real Reactions' kinda and policies, marketing strategies also those I put together from the user requirements. 'Kay. Um if you flip the So, those are the criteria. And uh perhaps I could have put 'em a bit better, but you notice a few things that we've totally abandoned, which means that uh the product will score very badly on some of those points. Put it mildly. So we have um true? One, t Seven, eight, oh. Fourth. Okay, so we have to go through each point. If we imagine it's actually straight, and just give it a a score. So um how well would you say the prototype is uh how well have we realised the dream of being able to stop remotes from from being lost, or to be able to find them once they are lost. I mean, uh is the homing thing still the locator, is that still Ashley Jones: Yeah, that's still part of the design. Cynthia Pettis: Sure. And Adam, we can keep that in? Casey Kitchens: Yeah, I believe so. So Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Casey Kitchens: I mean I don't think anybody could actually stop a remote being lost, 'cause that would mean doing something about the human Cynthia Pettis: Sure. Casey Kitchens: element, but I'd like Cynthia Pettis: T Casey Kitchens: to think that we've done something about finding Ashley Jones: Mm. Casey Kitchens: the damn thing once we have. Cynthia Pettis: Sure. Ashley Jones: Mm. And making it a bright colour helps with the personally I would have gone for purple. Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Bright colour. So we still have that noise thing, yeah? Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Cynthia Pettis: Os on a scale of one to seven, how would you guys rate it for finding finding it once it's lost? Ashley Jones: I'd say number one. Cynthia Pettis: Number Jessie Gowdy: One. Cynthia Pettis: one? Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Number number one for the first criteria. Ashley Jones: I think w if it was just the sounder then th I mean something I've found with uh w w with say tr trying to find uh a cordless phone or a m mobile, you can hear it, but you can't quite pin it dow pin down where it is. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah you can tell what room the mobile is Ashley Jones: Bu Jessie Gowdy: find remote. Suppose you have to go to the T_V_ and Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: do it manually. Ashley Jones: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: Mm. Casey Kitchens: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: Like Casey Kitchens: Um Jessie Gowdy: y you wouldn't hear the speaker. Cynthia Pettis: Mm-hmm. Casey Kitchens: just before we go through all of the steps Cynthia Pettis: You wanna say something? Casey Kitchens: here, um well what we'll do is um if we can look at the criteria you're gonna evaluate, and then we'll come back to the product evaluation if that's alright. Cynthia Pettis: That's fine. Casey Kitchens: Yeah, is that Cynthia Pettis: Oh that's that's fine. Casey Kitchens: Um so is there anything here that you that you wanted to cover as in the criteria that you've covered? And then we'll come back pretty much promptly to this. Cynthia Pettis: What do you mean cr is there anything I Casey Kitchens: I Cynthia Pettis: wanna Casey Kitchens: is there any of these criteria that need any explaining? Or is there anything that yous thought tha really would stand out compared to the others? Cynthia Pettis: Um, a few. Something I neglected from my initial research is that Real Reactions has a a goal strategy that all of the products be inspired by material fashion, and clothing fashion. That is why fruit and veg being popular in the home and in clothing was important and they want all their products to be somehow inspired by current trends in fashion. So they say we put the fashion in electronics, well they really mean it they they're very big on fashion, so. Casey Kitchens: Okay. Cynthia Pettis: That's this bit right here. And uh this bit is this one easy to use for visitors or for anybody? I guess it's just the same as saying easy to use interface, so it's kinda condensed into one. And we can come back to it, you said. So. Casey Kitchens: Okay. No and which we will do very very shortly. Um. Okay. Slight problem we had was that we have an amazing four Euros over budget for what we were hoping to do. Um most of it stems from the use of the L_C_D_ which I think in the end accounted for about half of our expenditure because of course we required a chip as well. Um the only way to get this down was either to ditch the a L_C_D_, at which point we've removed a large part of how we were gonna interface, require more buttons, etcetera. Or what we did was that we um we as in I as I was quickly going over it was altering the actual structure. Um changing it to plastic and a solid unit with a single curve design would allow us to come back into the um proposed costs and we're just scraping it in, we've got point two of a Euro left over there. So we're just managing it really. Even then as well, um there was no criteria technically defined for a joystick so I've used what I think's appropriate. With any luck that won't mean that we've incurred more cost than we can actually afford to. It blows a lot of our really good ideas kind of slightly to one side, for example the possibility of having a U_S_B_ connection is definitely not viable now. Um. Cynthia Pettis: Different languages? Casey Kitchens: That should still be viable. We've got an advanced chip, we've got the use of the L_C_D_. So being able Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: to communicate in multiple languages is still very much a possibility. Um but what's something we need to decide on is how we're gonna go from here. We do need to try and come up with an idea which could be continued with other people if need be. Um. We can I can bring the excel up sheet up and uh show you if you wish um. I really think as m much as it pains Cynthia Pettis is that we might have to go with plastic and some kind of solid design, possibly meaning that the L_C_D_ wouldn't be in this perfect place. It might be s stuck like slightly between what would be good for left handed and what would be good for a right handed person. Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm I suppose o one thing that could be done is h is have it um circular and have it s so that the uh the pink actually goes a bit over the pinkie finger. Casey Kitchens: Okay. Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Ashley Jones: So that uh th Casey Kitchens: It very much is about making concessions, unfortunately. Um. Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: Do you have any data on how much um different prints cost? I mean can you get the entire thing printed with a design um? Casey Kitchens: Um b b b da is you mean on the plastic, or? Let's have a look. You now have as much information as I do. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah, yeah. Casey Kitchens: Um. So as you can see here, for example, the battery really not very little choice in that one. We've gone for one of the cheaper options as well. Unfortunately we require the advanced chip if we're gonna do what we're needing to. I've said single curved. We really do need it to be that way for the ergonomics of it. Um plastic for some reason incurs no cost, which I've had to very much make advantage of, despite the fact that rubber's only got a value of two Euros per unit. Problem comes here as you can see in the interface. Um save point five of a Euro here in that it's not per push button. That might make sense, because then a numeric keypad would come in at um what, four point five Euros, which is an awful lot, so that could well be wrong. Even if we save point five there, it would just mean that we're most likely placing it in actually just gaining a colour for the unit, which has had to be put to one side. As you can see, the use of an L_C_ display um advanced chip and what would determine the scroll wheel here as well because it's an integrated scroll scroll wheel push button that wasn't quite what I think they had in mind with a joystick. Cynthia Pettis: Why would why would that be more expensive than an individual push button and scroll wheel together? That's quite significantly expensive. Casey Kitchens: I that's something you'll have to take up with the bean counters. Um Ashley Jones: Mm. yeah. Casey Kitchens: as you can see I mean that's taken up well over half of the price. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: So um I'm very much open to suggestions of where we go, but because we need to shed what was four Euros off of the um the price of for what we really desired, this one comes in under price as you can see, but this was the one that sacrificed the material for the case and for the actual case design. Cynthia Pettis: We don't even have uh speakers here. The like uh we uh what about speakers and transmitters and stuff like that? Have we factored that in? Jessie Gowdy: Mm. Casey Kitchens: Uh no, we haven't, Cynthia Pettis: Transmitter, Casey Kitchens: not Cynthia Pettis: receiver, speakers. Plus the extra device itself that's gonna be on a T_V_. Is that gonna be a button, or Casey Kitchens: That'll it literally would just be a button. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: That's Casey Kitchens: We might have to Jessie Gowdy: too expensive isn't it? Casey Kitchens: It looks like almost nothing Mm. Oh good call, I missed that. Cynthia Pettis: I I mean it's not on here, but um. Casey Kitchens: that's a very valid point. Cynthia Pettis: Did they s do we have to use an advanced chip for the L_C_D_? Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Well that's Casey Kitchens: So Cynthia Pettis: yeah. Casey Kitchens: if we're gonna go with the L_C_ display, then that's Cynthia Pettis: What's a hand dyna dynamo? You have to wind it up? Casey Kitchens: I believe so, yeah. That would probably not be in keeping with the um Cynthia Pettis: Technology. Casey Kitchens: the fashion Jessie Gowdy: Fashion. Casey Kitchens: statement Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: and such, yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Jessie Gowdy: So basically the only new thing is the L_C_D_ on the Casey Kitchens: Being Jessie Gowdy: remote Casey Kitchens: manipulated Jessie Gowdy: now. Casey Kitchens: by the joystick, yeah. Jessie Gowdy: Oh, and joystick, yeah. Casey Kitchens: Which I'm defining as scroll wheel. Um. Cynthia Pettis: And we couldn't replace the joystick, right? Because we would need four extra buttons to replace it, up down left and right, and that would be more expensive than a but is a scroll wheel Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: not just back and forward? Casey Kitchens: Yeah it's just because there was no actual definition for what a joystick might be, that that's what I've labelled it for Jessie Gowdy: So Casey Kitchens: the purposes of this evaluation. Jessie Gowdy: The L_C_D_ basically is the big selling point of Casey Kitchens: If we remove the L_C_ display, Jessie Gowdy: the remote. Casey Kitchens: we could save ourselves a fair amount. Which you could Jessie Gowdy: But that's what makes it uh original though, isn't Ashley Jones: Mm. Jessie Gowdy: it? Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: I think if we remove the the L_C_ display then there was absolutely no point to any of these meetings and we just we could just put our branding on any other remote control. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Yeah. Um. Uh k Casey Kitchens: It's a shame. We should possibly have If we could've increased the price we could've manufactured that and we could've got something far closer to what we were Cynthia Pettis: Does this Casey Kitchens: hoping to. Cynthia Pettis: does this bear in mind that I mean it's a bit ridiculous that they're gonna charge us what is it, like this much money for three million if we're gonna buy three million components, you know. Casey Kitchens: Again, you'll have to argue with the accountants on that Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Casey Kitchens: one. Um but for the purposes of this meeting, I'm we're gonna have to stick with these figures. Cynthia Pettis: 'Kay. Casey Kitchens: So, I would say that it would seem like the general opinion is we're gonna keep the L_C_ display 'cause it's about what really separates us, Cynthia Pettis: I Casey Kitchens: despite Cynthia Pettis: think so. Casey Kitchens: the cost it's gonna incur. Um are people maybe not happy with, but are willing to go ahead with this in going for a plastic solid case, to keep the L_C_D_? Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Um yeah I mean one thing, I mean ho uh how much extra would it be to to keep I mean keep the um the articulation? Casey Kitchens: It's hard to tell. Um I would say Ashley Jones: This is Casey Kitchens: that Ashley Jones: what I'm wondering. Casey Kitchens: you're at least gonna take double curved, and even then I'm not quite sure if that's incorporating the idea of articulation. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: Oh no, I think I I it d that it needn't require it to be double Jessie Gowdy: It can Ashley Jones: curved. Jessie Gowdy: be s yeah, it can still be single curved, but Ashley Jones: It's uh it's Jessie Gowdy: You just. Casey Kitchens: Single Ashley Jones: just it's Casey Kitchens: curved with Ashley Jones: just Casey Kitchens: articulation? Ashley Jones: it's just that the case would come in t would be made in two parts and then joined together with an articulation. Cynthia Pettis: Could we could we not get rid of the curvy the curvous the curvaceousness and focus on the menu being the best interface? 'Cause like we do we have re restrictions on software? Jessie Gowdy: That's what we need for the joystick I think though. Cynthia Pettis: Oh but Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: there has to Ashley Jones: Yeah, Cynthia Pettis: be Ashley Jones: I mean and I mean the uh I mean if you look uh if you look closer at the uh at the prototype here, the lines here along the grip are actually quite straight. Um I mean yeah, Casey Kitchens: But Ashley Jones: on the Casey Kitchens: the curves all o over Ashley Jones: on Casey Kitchens: hand, is it? Ashley Jones: the L_C_D_ I mean although we've done it with a curve it could just as easily be done um without curves. The curve that's really needed is up here, Cynthia Pettis: joystick. Ashley Jones: to put uh to keep the joystick in a good ergonomic position for it to have it rest on the top of the hand. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Sure. Okay, my bad. Casey Kitchens: We wouldn't actually save a lot by reducing it anyway, so I mean for the purposes of this meeting maybe we can state that single curve still allows articulation. Ashley Jones: Mm. Casey Kitchens: Um unless we hear otherwise we could go ahead with that proposal. Cynthia Pettis: So I think the product is not gonna perform so well for my criteria. Casey Kitchens: Which is what we can get onto now. As long as so are we gonna say w we have to keep an eye on the time as well, but we're gonna say um Cynthia Pettis: Oh, wait Casey Kitchens: single Cynthia Pettis: a minute. Casey Kitchens: curved design Cynthia Pettis: Sample speaker? What is a sample speaker? Is that somewhat similar to what we want? Casey Kitchens: It could well be, Ashley Jones: Mm Casey Kitchens: but Ashley Jones: no Casey Kitchens: at a cost Ashley Jones: that's Casey Kitchens: of Ashley Jones: that voice response Jessie Gowdy: Costs Ashley Jones: thing Jessie Gowdy: four. Ashley Jones: that we got the email about. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: But I thought it was just completely pointless. Cynthia Pettis: You got a email about voice response? Ashley Jones: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: I did not, so. Ashley Jones: Alright. B i basically it was saying that our labs had come up with a chip that you could, you know, say hello to, and it would say hello back in a friendly female voice. Casey Kitchens: Okay, yeah we'll definitely won't go with that one. Cynthia Pettis: We won't go with that one, did you say? I mean Casey Kitchens: Yeah, Cynthia Pettis: I Casey Kitchens: that's Cynthia Pettis: we Casey Kitchens: voice recognition, so. Cynthia Pettis: Okay, okay. Casey Kitchens: Um. So, okay yeah, battery definitely, Cynthia Pettis: So it looks like we're gonna get rid of the whole loca locator thing. Casey Kitchens: It Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: looks like it unless we can manage to put it in under point two Euros, Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Casey Kitchens: um. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Casey Kitchens: Maybe even Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Casey Kitchens: slight well oh yeah, pretty much point two Euros, I'd say. So we'll leave that one for now. we'll Jessie Gowdy: Are we Casey Kitchens: just Jessie Gowdy: going Casey Kitchens: have Jessie Gowdy: for a special colour at all? Casey Kitchens: It's uh a case of um I'm uh slightly unsure. One point five of a Euro for one push button doesn't sound quite right. So maybe it's a case of a push button is maybe one or more. Um. Ashley Jones: Mm. Jessie Gowdy: Well I was Casey Kitchens: At which point Jessie Gowdy: for Casey Kitchens: if Jessie Gowdy: a case. Or had you already incorporated that? Cynthia Pettis: Oh, special colour for the case. Casey Kitchens: Well you got point five there. It's literally a case of whether or not this is correct. I'm not quite sure if they're I don't think they mean point five Euros per button. Cynthia Pettis: Mm-hmm. Ashley Jones: Okay, well l let's Casey Kitchens: So Ashley Jones: say that and then we can have our special coloured case and then we at least have make it a little harder to lose. Casey Kitchens: There we go. Ashley Jones: that gets camouflaged under any pile of crap in a Cynthia Pettis: W Ashley Jones: living Cynthia Pettis: what's Ashley Jones: room. Cynthia Pettis: the default colour? White or black? Casey Kitchens: Black's probably the normal colour you'd say, Ashley Jones: Or Casey Kitchens: yeah. Ashley Jones: grey. Cynthia Pettis: Right. Casey Kitchens: I quite like that Ashley Jones: Yellow. Casey Kitchens: colour that you're fetching there, it's uh definitely for make it glow in the dark even better. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: So will we go with that then? Ashley Jones: Okay. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: It's not and we can see we'll come back to Cynthia Pettis: Sure. Casey Kitchens: uh your evaluation which you're probably now going to pan us but Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Casey Kitchens: there we go. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. So uh Casey Kitchens: Just to give you an idea, um you want to go maybe a bit quickly as well, I'm not sure how much time. We've not hit the five minute mark Cynthia Pettis: Right Casey Kitchens: warning Cynthia Pettis: okay. Casey Kitchens: yet, but. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Jessie Gowdy: Think it's ten minutes left. Casey Kitchens: Ten. Cynthia Pettis: 'Kay. Ability to stop remotes from being lost or to find them once they are lost. Um. Okay. Jessie Gowdy: Special colour. Cynthia Pettis: Special colour. Casey Kitchens: Mm Cynthia Pettis: Uh Casey Kitchens: mm four? Cynthia Pettis: uh four. Casey Kitchens: Three? Mm. Cynthia Pettis: Three if Ashley Jones: Three. Cynthia Pettis: we're being generous, Ashley Jones: I Cynthia Pettis: I Ashley Jones: think Cynthia Pettis: feel. Ashley Jones: we can do three. Jessie Gowdy: Three. Cynthia Pettis: Think we're being generous Ashley Jones: Th Cynthia Pettis: here with three. Ashley Jones: the special colour doesn't would I think make a difference. It makes it stand out from you know it's Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Ashley Jones: lost in a big pile of crap, it stands out from the rest of the crap. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: Okay. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Reduce the number of unused buttons. We're down to t two buttons, is it? Casey Kitchens: Two Ashley Jones: Two Casey Kitchens: buttons. Ashley Jones: buttons and a joystick. Cynthia Pettis: Okay, so that's a one. You know, where Ashley Jones: Totally. Cynthia Pettis: that's Casey Kitchens: Yeah. I'd say we're doing well there. Cynthia Pettis: Okay, that was good. Easy to use interface, buttons menu, menus that's yeah that's good. 'Kay that's we're not doing so badly. Um easy to use oh okay, let's forget that one. Casey Kitchens: Mm-hmm. Cynthia Pettis: Fancy looking. Casey Kitchens: As he Ashley Jones: It Casey Kitchens: models Ashley Jones: doesn't Casey Kitchens: the Ashley Jones: get much fancier. Cynthia Pettis: Sure. And we could do whatever we like with the L_ L_C_D_. Yeah let's just assume it's a good L_C_D_ display. Maybe I was panicking for no Jessie Gowdy: Are Cynthia Pettis: reason. Jessie Gowdy: we going one on? I'd say we go two, 'cause like f the fanciest would be the double curved. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah, Jessie Gowdy: Wouldn't Casey Kitchens: I'd Jessie Gowdy: it? Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: w maybe you'd be a bit Casey Kitchens: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: too yeah. Jessie Gowdy: With the articulators. Cynthia Pettis: There we go. Yeah, Jessie Gowdy: With Cynthia Pettis: that's Jessie Gowdy: bells Cynthia Pettis: m Jessie Gowdy: on it. Cynthia Pettis: that's that's better too. More accurate numbers. Technologically innovative. Well, we're getting rid of the locator thing which Casey Kitchens: Which is a shame. Cynthia Pettis: which yeah. Ashley Jones: Mm. I'd give Jessie Gowdy: No need Ashley Jones: it a three Jessie Gowdy: for teletext. Ashley Jones: for this for that. Yeah. I mean Cynthia Pettis: 'Kay. Ashley Jones: the menus thing is something you don't normally see on um on a remote, but you see it in a lot of other places. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah, mobile phones. Casey Kitchens: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: And y what you're doing is moving the menu from the television to the remote control, so it's Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Cynthia Pettis: You say three? I might go as far as two on that. Three. Ashley Jones: I'd give Casey Kitchens: I'd Ashley Jones: it Casey Kitchens: be Ashley Jones: a three. Casey Kitchens: tempted with three, Cynthia Pettis: Three. Casey Kitchens: yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Okay. Casey Kitchens: We'll get panned on the next one, anyway. Cynthia Pettis: Materials that people find pleasing. Sponginess Casey Kitchens: Yeah, w Cynthia Pettis: is what they really would have wanted, apparently. Casey Kitchens: It is, yeah. Don't blame them. Um because of the way that we've minimalised the number of buttons and such. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: Plastic, it sucks. But it's no worse than any of the other pl remote controls we have. Cynthia Pettis: That's true. It's not a step backwards. Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. Jessie Gowdy: five? Six? Ashley Jones: I'd s I I'd give it a six, Jessie Gowdy: Six, Ashley Jones: to be honest. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah, okay let's give it a six. Okay, that's totally thrown everything off balance. Inspired by the latest interior and clothing fashion. W we could. What colour were we gonna Jessie Gowdy: Put Cynthia Pettis: make Jessie Gowdy: a leopard Cynthia Pettis: it? Jessie Gowdy: print on Ashley Jones: Well I Jessie Gowdy: it. Ashley Jones: I I would sa I would say give a s give a selection of colours. Um we Cynthia Pettis: I Ashley Jones: went Cynthia Pettis: know, Ashley Jones: with Cynthia Pettis: but Ashley Jones: yellow we went with yellow for the prototype 'cause we had yellow. If I were buying one, I'd go for purple. Leopard print would be cool. Cynthia Pettis: But um by this I think it's more a case of Jessie Gowdy: Yeah Cynthia Pettis: fruit Jessie Gowdy: we gotta. Cynthia Pettis: and veg, Jessie Gowdy: I'd Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: say the colour of the border there world you'd find that, that's that'd stand out. Casey Kitchens: Like yellow, yeah. It would also help keep the the product placement Jessie Gowdy: Logo, Casey Kitchens: s yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Mm. Jessie Gowdy: brand. Mm Cynthia Pettis: But Casey Kitchens: Is it inspired Jessie Gowdy: 'kay. Casey Kitchens: by clothing fashion? Cynthia Pettis: Th th they're referring to the fruit and veg thing. Is this like a banana type colour? Could we stretch no Casey Kitchens: Yes. Cynthia Pettis: still, it's not shaped like a banana is Casey Kitchens: It's Ashley Jones: That's Casey Kitchens: kind Ashley Jones: kinda Casey Kitchens: o it probably Ashley Jones: i it won't be when it's been Cynthia Pettis: Oh is that 'cause it's flat? Ashley Jones: budgeted. Cynthia Pettis: What is what fruit or veg is flat? Ashley Jones: I I think s I I think this isn't not particularly fruit and veggie. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: Um. Cynthia Pettis: Or we might have to suffer badly Jessie Gowdy: Yellow Cynthia Pettis: for this one as Jessie Gowdy: courgette. Cynthia Pettis: well. Casey Kitchens: Well I mean it's probably more fruit and veg than most other things out there bar fruit and veg, so, what, four? Cynthia Pettis: Four? Oh that's Casey Kitchens: Is that being Cynthia Pettis: it's Casey Kitchens: too generous? Cynthia Pettis: very ambitious, Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: yeah, um. Ashley Jones: I'd I'd I don't think fruit and veg is the sole criterion. Casey Kitchens: Oh dear, Cynthia Pettis: Sure. Ashley Jones: Is the sole criterion for being um Cynthia Pettis: Inspired Ashley Jones: fashion Cynthia Pettis: by. Ashley Jones: fashionable or inspired by current fashions. Um I'd g I'd rate I'd rate this fairly highly from that point of view actually. Jessie Gowdy: Well this this what we're gonna t this is their motto, like. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Jessie Gowdy: And we're we're not doing well on it. Cynthia Pettis: This is their strategy. I m imagine we actually had some money invested in this and the amount that we invest is gonna be proportional to the marks. Might we might wanna be a bit more skepible sceptical about this one. Casey Kitchens: What would you think yourself? Cynthia Pettis: I would say I mean it's it's not at all, right? In any way or shape or form. We Casey Kitchens: Well, Cynthia Pettis: didn't Casey Kitchens: it's Cynthia Pettis: m Casey Kitchens: kind of curved and we can make it yellow, and that's pretty much banana like. Cynthia Pettis: Okay, the the yellow banana like thing is I think is okay. Casey Kitchens: Si it's got a curve to it. Cynthia Pettis: Right five. Is that sound reasonable? Casey Kitchens: Am I Jessie Gowdy: Yeah, Casey Kitchens: do you think Jessie Gowdy: I'll go Casey Kitchens: I'm Jessie Gowdy: with Casey Kitchens: stretching Jessie Gowdy: five. Casey Kitchens: the Cynthia Pettis: Five. Casey Kitchens: uh the use of the banana? Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. 'Kay, so we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So five, seven, ten, sixteen, twenty one. Which gives us an average of three. It's well this would be in the middle. So we it's it's not bad. It's in the good section. Casey Kitchens: It's not bad and considering the don't pick the pen. Cynthia Pettis: Oops. Sorry. Casey Kitchens: Um. Cynthia Pettis: I'm I'm sorry. Casey Kitchens: Y oh and you've knocked batteries out. Um right Jessie Gowdy: 'S Casey Kitchens: okay Jessie Gowdy: bad Casey Kitchens: it's Jessie Gowdy: design, that thing. Casey Kitchens: considering the price we had to get this in, Cynthia Pettis: Mm-hmm. Casey Kitchens: to have a positive you know, even based on the four of us being heavily biased, um Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: it was gonna be quite hard to get anything standing out I'd say possibly, based on um the the cost features. Jessie Gowdy: Mm, Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: Even Jessie Gowdy: yeah. Cynthia Pettis: if we were to increase this entire thing by by seven, we were to go down a grade to to four, we would have to do I mean we didn't we weren't that kinda optimistic too optim overly optimistic. You know like we didn't we didn't add we didn't subtract a whole seven points from these things, so I think we're definitely on the good bit. Even if we gave this one seven and this one seven, that's still only three extra points over seven. You know, it's Ashley Jones: Mm. Cynthia Pettis: yeah, we did it w it was okay. It was good. Ashley Jones: Personally, I think given that the product um only replaces a single remote control that you've already got, are people really gonna shell out twenty five Euros for something that's only marginally good? Jessie Gowdy: Well, it depends who your who's what the target people are, like you'd say maybe the fashion conscious Casey Kitchens: Maybe it's Jessie Gowdy: women Casey Kitchens: been targeted Jessie Gowdy: would be going, oh look at that, 's cool, it looks like a Cynthia Pettis: Mm-hmm. Jessie Gowdy: it's yellow, looks like a banana, it's cool it's gotta look good in the sitting room. Casey Kitchens: Hide it in the Jessie Gowdy: Rather Casey Kitchens: fruit Jessie Gowdy: than Casey Kitchens: basket. Jessie Gowdy: the L_C_D_ whereas uh more technical like like more uh people in with the latest technology it's good, it's got an L_C_D_ screen 's only got two buttons and a joystick. So, which which kind of people would be more likely to buy it? Casey Kitchens: Probably the people technologically. They're usually the ones that buy pointless stuff. Cynthia Pettis: I think so. I mean my mum still has not learnt how to use text messaging on her phone, and she's had it for a long time, you know. She uses it to make phone calls and that's it. Yeah. So I think if sh if my mum saw a remote control like this with only two buttons and a joystick, I mean that'll probably be the first one she decides not to buy, you know. Casey Kitchens: Mm-hmm. Cynthia Pettis: She'd be like is this a remote control, I don't how do you use it, and stuff like that. So even if it is really user friendly to us, but we're used to using menus all the time. Ashley Jones: Mm-hmm. I s I suppose one thing is that b because it's technically innovative, um for someone who's sort of technophobic, the fact that it simply looks unfamiliar Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: would be daunting. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. I Ashley Jones: Um. Cynthia Pettis: think it's totally uh radical to have a remote control with no no Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: numbered buttons, yeah. Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Cynthia Pettis: But like radical good, maybe. Casey Kitchens: Okay. Um don't know how lo much longer we've got. At least five minutes I think. Um quickly we'll pop onto project evaluation. Um. So, we've got these uh four criteria here for uh satisfaction. Does anybody want to um um do you have any opinions on any of them? For example um we'll work backwards I suppose. The ability to work on this project using the technology we've been presented with. Um people made good use of the uh pen and paper? I would Ashley Jones: Yeah, Casey Kitchens: say Ashley Jones: got notes Jessie Gowdy: Yeah. Ashley Jones: and doodles. Cynthia Pettis: Wrote nearly a page, but not. Casey Kitchens: I'm not quite sure what the advantage for us using a digital pen might be. Cynthia Pettis: I think Ashley Jones: Well I think this Cynthia Pettis: tracking. Ashley Jones: is a I think the digital pen's mostly for the benefit Casey Kitchens: Mm. Ashley Jones: of the uh of the researchers studying this. It's all p goes into their corpus. Though Casey Kitchens: It Ashley Jones: it Casey Kitchens: must Ashley Jones: would have been nice to be able to transfer the um transfer our n our paper notes onto the uh computer ourselves. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah, that woulda been pretty good. Casey Kitchens: It does seem like the paper's still a heavy consideration for taking notes. So maybe this is literally just a way around it. Um I dunno. How are people satisfied with the teamwork we've managed to display today? Jessie Gowdy: Good. Cynthia Pettis: I'd yeah I liked it, yeah. Casey Kitchens: Leadership. As much as can be leadered in this uh Jessie Gowdy: Very good. Casey Kitchens: thing. Cynthia Pettis: I li yeah, top marks. Casey Kitchens: Um last one we've got is room for creativity. Cynthia Pettis: Well Casey Kitchens: Now, Ashley Jones: Unti uh uh Casey Kitchens: I Ashley Jones: until Casey Kitchens: think we Ashley Jones: uh Casey Kitchens: got Ashley Jones: until accounts came along, squish. Jessie Gowdy: We're burs Cynthia Pettis: yeah. Jessie Gowdy: bursting with creativity. Cynthia Pettis: We we're not lacking in ideas, you know it's that was not the problem. Casey Kitchens: Yeah I think of in the end, ideas that can be used sadly. Not so much that we weren't full of ideas, but of ones that are gonna allow us to actually build the thing. Cynthia Pettis: Mm-hmm. Casey Kitchens: It's a bit of a pity. Um I would have to agree on that. I think we needed a larger budget. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: If you're going to aim your a um product maybe at the technological kind of sector, then you can afford to maybe jack the price up slightly from what it is. Because Ashley Jones: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: they will pay outrageous cash to Ashley Jones: Mm. I Casey Kitchens: first Ashley Jones: mean I Casey Kitchens: on Ashley Jones: th Casey Kitchens: the Ashley Jones: I Casey Kitchens: market. Ashley Jones: mean I think to r retaining the s the more sort of bio-morphic form in the articulation would gain more in s uh would gain more profit in sales than it would lose in uh in added expense. Casey Kitchens: Mm. Jessie Gowdy: And the price was like it was twice the w assembly cost. And would it have to be twice that? It could be like coulda had the assembly like maybe fifteen Euro. Casey Kitchens: It Jessie Gowdy: We'll Casey Kitchens: could Jessie Gowdy: still Casey Kitchens: even Jessie Gowdy: settle for twenty five. Casey Kitchens: That's Jessie Gowdy: Maybe. Casey Kitchens: true, yeah. Um I suppose these are all that will have to be taken up with a at a different group at I guess. As to a the costs involved. But I mean we've got a a prototype. Ashley Jones: Such as it is. Casey Kitchens: So I dunno, I I think it's gone okay today, considering the information that we've had at our disposal, and um Cynthia Pettis: Maybe Casey Kitchens: such. Cynthia Pettis: the counts wou woulda been better if we had a list or more Yeah, to begin with. Jessie Gowdy: In the beginning, yeah. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: Probably would have mean we could have come up with a lot more solid Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: design in the end, I would have to agree. It is very much a pity to um get so far into the stage and then find out that maybe some of your ideas are just a bit too expensive. Always hard to tell until you know the costs. Um. Okay. Are the costs within budget? Well, they are now that we have our slightly less than capable product. Cynthia Pettis: Okay. Casey Kitchens: We've evaluated it, and we can say that we came out with a value of three. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: Actually I want th one thing I would say I mean something that could perhaps be part of the product mm the um m product testing market research process would be to uh produce mock-ups of both versions and see just how much of a difference the over going over-budget um m would make to sales. Casey Kitchens: It's yeah? Cynthia Pettis: And like response from consumers. Ashley Jones: And we could even you know, market two versions. Wee cheapie version with the nice bio-morphic rubber. Casey Kitchens: And then the final one where you get to call it Hal. But we'll Ashley Jones: Yes. Casey Kitchens: go into that later. Cynthia Pettis: Sure. Casey Kitchens: Right um is there anything else that anybody would like to to add, um anything they think that's not been covered, before I quickly write up a final report. Um I dunno, I mean we've got a product. We maybe aren't as happy with it as we'd like to be, but we've got something we think we can maybe stick onto the the market and sell. And of course something we have been avoiding talking about 'cause of we've no information is selling them directly to the manufacturers. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Casey Kitchens: There is a huge market. I mean we've briefly touched on it but we've no more knowledge then there's little we can say on that. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Ashley Jones: Mm. Casey Kitchens: Yeah. So um unless anybody's got anything they'd like to add, we can maybe round this up slightly earlier than we'd need to and then we can Ashley Jones: And Casey Kitchens: finish Ashley Jones: I can get Casey Kitchens: up the Ashley Jones: my bus. Casey Kitchens: writing and such. Yeah? Ashley Jones: Okay. Cynthia Pettis: Yeah. Okay, let's Casey Kitchens: Uh thank you for your participation. Cynthia Pettis: Thank you. Ashley Jones: Thank you. Cynthia Pettis: I was actually kind of upset you know at the budget, and that we had to cut a lot of stuff. It's like man, we we can't have the locator thing. And s yeah that's just bad. Do you think maybe the prices were were made? Casey Kitchens: That a question we can ask.	Casey Kitchens recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented a prototype for the remote the team is designing and discussed its ergonomic appearance and its features. Cynthia Pettis began to lead the team in conducting an evaluation of the prototype but was interrupted when Casey Kitchens shifted the discussion to examining the production costs of the team's product. The original specifications of the team's product proved to be too expensive and so the team had to discuss which features to lose and which to maintain in order to meet the target cost. After discussing costs, the team returned to conducting their product evaluation. The prototype was evaluated on the basis of its ability to be located when misplaced, ease of use, appearance, technological innovativeness, and sponginess. Overall, the prototype received average marks. The team then evaluated the project process, finding that they were happy overall but quite displeased with the small budget.	4	amisum	train
Valda Nelson: Okay. Mindy Caro: Okay, almost there. Lisa Harris: Okay. We'll sta I'll use the PowerPoint I. How was that, was that fun? Valda Nelson: Mm. Mindy Caro: Yeah, yeah. Valda Nelson: Very fun. Lisa Harris: Okay. Uh oh I've forgotten to mail you the minutes, but I will do. Mindy Caro: Okay. Lisa Harris: Upsidaisy. Kristy Tonn: Hmm. Lisa Harris: Um Um Kristy Tonn: E Lisa Harris: we Kristy Tonn: excuse Kristy Tonn I forgot Lisa Harris: Yeah. Kristy Tonn: my Lisa Harris: Alright, Kristy Tonn: copy. Lisa Harris: okay, yeah. He's gonna get his pen. Valda Nelson: Oh right. Lisa Harris: Um Will you guys first with your prototype um before we get to the good news? Mindy Caro: Yeah, there's good news? Lisa Harris: Uh Mindy Caro: Oh. Valda Nelson: Mm. Lisa Harris: we have budget problems. Mindy Caro: Oh. Cutbacks. Lisa Harris: I'm afraid you're all sacked. Oops. I don't even have on. Mindy Caro: Hmm. Lisa Harris: Okay, have you Mindy Caro: Okay. Lisa Harris: got a presentation to make? Kristy Tonn: No, not Lisa Harris: No. Kristy Tonn: mine Lisa Harris: Okay Kristy Tonn: yet. Lisa Harris: so it's Mindy Caro: Oh. Lisa Harris: just your your show. Mindy Caro: Um maybe we should bring so that the camera can see. Yeah. Valda Nelson: Okay. Sure. Mindy Caro: Okay. Valda Nelson: We made three Lisa Harris: Three? Valda Nelson: for you. Lisa Harris: Oh. Valda Nelson: Um one's based on the banana, one's based on the tomato and Lisa Harris: Tomato? Valda Nelson: the other one Lisa Harris: What tomato? Valda Nelson: is st Lisa Harris: I don't recall a tomato. Valda Nelson: Look. Oh yeah, well yeah, we had v some red left over. So. Lisa Harris: Ah I see, okay. Valda Nelson: Okay, so this is the um non to non uh no buttons one, or as mm few buttons as possible, Lisa Harris: Mm-hmm. Valda Nelson: mainly speak recognition. The yellow there is the um Lisa Harris: Logo. Valda Nelson: the slogan, yeah, Lisa Harris: Okay, Valda Nelson: incorporate, Lisa Harris: brilliant. Valda Nelson: it's very simple. If you do need buttons, you can flip it over, and there's some there, Lisa Harris: Okay. Valda Nelson: um but mainly it's speech recognition. Lisa Harris: Okay, so the buttons would be like, you know individual users, or Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: Yeah. Valda Nelson: Yeah and yeah they might project things onto the screen which you can do on there. Lisa Harris: Alright, okay. Valda Nelson: Mm I'm not sure about that. Um and this one is the one w more like the one w that we looked at earlier. Lisa Harris: Right. Valda Nelson: Yeah, you guys can Lisa Harris: That's Valda Nelson: have Lisa Harris: groovy. Valda Nelson: a look at that Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Valda Nelson: if you want. Kristy Tonn: Uh can Lisa Harris: Well I like the Kristy Tonn: I Lisa Harris: feel of it, Kristy Tonn: have Valda Nelson: Yeah, Lisa Harris: I like the feel Valda Nelson: sure. Lisa Harris: of it. Valda Nelson: Um that one is Kristy Tonn: Oh sorry Valda Nelson: Oh Kristy Tonn: s Lisa Harris: At Oh Valda Nelson: no, it's delicate. Lisa Harris: dear. Valda Nelson: That's that's already got its stand that one. That's it stand. Lisa Harris: Alright, Valda Nelson: It does Lisa Harris: okay. Valda Nelson: also lie flat, but that's the that yellow stand there represents the the charging stand. Lisa Harris: Okay, Valda Nelson: Um Lisa Harris: brilliant mm. Valda Nelson: the black on the back is the slogan. Lisa Harris: Okay, nice and obvious Valda Nelson: Uh Lisa Harris: there, Valda Nelson: yeah, that Well, we Lisa Harris: if it's Valda Nelson: did think Lisa Harris: standing Valda Nelson: of Lisa Harris: up, Valda Nelson: that. Lisa Harris: I guess, yeah. Valda Nelson: Yeah, if it's standing up it's it's on there, but also we're gonna have the company name on the front, which is the little black kind of line in Lisa Harris: Oh Valda Nelson: the Lisa Harris: right, Valda Nelson: middle. Lisa Harris: okay, brilliant. Like Valda Nelson: So Lisa Harris: that Valda Nelson: um Lisa Harris: from its centre. Valda Nelson: and that's the um transmit the L_E_D_ thing. These are the s two scroll ones which we thought could be channel up and down and volume up and down. We n were weren't sure about putting them there, because um i it's it kind of could get bashed. Lisa Harris: Where you're, yeah, uh were you're holding it kind of Valda Nelson: Yeah. Well, if you hold it, you can you all can hold it, is it does actually feel quite ergonomic, Lisa Harris: Mm-hmm. Valda Nelson: if you've got small hands. Lisa Harris: Yeah. Mindy Caro: Mm. Valda Nelson: Um, Lisa Harris: Okay. Valda Nelson: obviously I don't think that's real sized. It would Lisa Harris: Yeah, Valda Nelson: have Lisa Harris: okay. Valda Nelson: to be a bit Lisa Harris: Yeah, Valda Nelson: bigger. Lisa Harris: scale model, yeah. Valda Nelson: Okay. Um that's a speaker at the top, so you can speak into it like a little walkie-talkie as well for speak recognition. Lisa Harris: Mm-hmm. Valda Nelson: Um and um then the buttons. Yeah kind of self-explanatory, just buttons whenever you need them. Tried to keep it simple. Oh that's the charging base prongs at the bottom. We used those. And um then the Lisa Harris: Alright, excellent. Valda Nelson: big red button in the middle is the on and off one. It's Lisa Harris: Okay. Valda Nelson: not in the traditional place, Lisa Harris: No. Valda Nelson: but um Lisa Harris: It's out of Valda Nelson: it's Lisa Harris: the way Valda Nelson: quite an Lisa Harris: as Valda Nelson: obvious Lisa Harris: well, I Valda Nelson: place. Lisa Harris: suppose, so. Excellent. Valda Nelson: So there we go and and um we have the banana-based Mindy Caro: Oh yeah, yeah. Valda Nelson: one too. Lisa Harris: Yep. Mindy Caro: This one is uh, I suppose for the younger audiences. Lisa Harris: Okay, Mindy Caro: A a more friendly Lisa Harris: so Mindy Caro: type Lisa Harris: so Mindy Caro: of Lisa Harris: Barney the banana. Mindy Caro: Right, right. It's to uh induce more television watching I suppose Lisa Harris: Ah Mindy Caro: or Lisa Harris: excellent, just what we need. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Mindy Caro: Yeah. Kristy Tonn: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: Lo Sort of Loch Ness banana. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Mindy Caro: Right, right. Lisa Harris: Cool yeah. Well, nice to have uh options at least. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Mindy Caro: Yep. Lisa Harris: 'Kay Valda Nelson: So Lisa Harris: and Valda Nelson: are there any um improvements or issues Mindy Caro: It won't Valda Nelson: or Mindy Caro: stand. Lisa Harris: Oh there are issues, oh there are issues. Mindy Caro: Just let it lie down, it wont stand. Lisa Harris: Um main problem that we have unfortunately being finance. Valda Nelson: Oh. Lisa Harris: Uh, let's just enter in the um evaluation criteria. Um unfortunately the unit we are currently going to produce minus the extra scroll buttons, uh it's gonna cost Kristy Tonn: Mm. Lisa Harris: us fourteen point six Euros. Valda Nelson: Oh. Lisa Harris: So Mindy Caro: What's Lisa Harris: we have Mindy Caro: on the Lisa Harris: to Mindy Caro: uh Lisa Harris: rea Mindy Caro: on the left? Lisa Harris: Sorry, I've accidentally highlighted somehow Um. There we go. Mindy Caro: Okay. Lisa Harris: Oh god, Valda Nelson: Ooh. Lisa Harris: why is it doing that? There we go. So basically, um in order to save our two Euros um I was thinking that we could have essentially the same shape, but just have it flattened. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. More like Lisa Harris: Um. Valda Nelson: a traditional remote control. Lisa Harris: Yeah, I mean it's already got a kind of cool shape, Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: so but it wouldn't have to be curved sort Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: of in and out. And by doing so Oh no, hold on. Doesn't save us quite as much. I don't know what's going on with this again. Mindy Caro: W why is the uh double curved two of them? Lisa Harris: Oh, good point. Kristy Tonn: And Lisa Harris: Um. Kristy Tonn: double curve on both sides? Curve. Yeah, this Lisa Harris: That's Kristy Tonn: is double-curve, Lisa Harris: sort Kristy Tonn: no? Lisa Harris: of curve Kristy Tonn: This Mindy Caro: Is Kristy Tonn: is Mindy Caro: i Kristy Tonn: double-curve. Lisa Harris: in and Kristy Tonn: It Lisa Harris: out. Kristy Tonn: This one is single curve. Mindy Caro: Mm. Kristy Tonn: 'Cause this is single curve, this is curved on both sides. So double-curve. Lisa Harris: No, I think it means double curved as in um Valda Nelson: Like an S_ shape. Lisa Harris: like uh a single curve on that bottom half, and the double curved would be if it was that similar curve Valda Nelson: Okay. Lisa Harris: upward. Okay, I might be wrong though. Kristy Tonn: Like this, one curve on this side, one curve on that side. Lisa Harris: I don't think that counts as a curve, I think Kristy Tonn: Hmm. Lisa Harris: that's just a shape. Valda Nelson: Okay. Lisa Harris: A curvature is like the this Kristy Tonn: Maybe. Lisa Harris: case. Valda Nelson: Okay. Mindy Caro: 'Cause that's the uh the biggest expense there, right. Lisa Harris: Yeah, Mindy Caro: got Lisa Harris: and why Mindy Caro: two Lisa Harris: why Mindy Caro: of them Lisa Harris: I've got it two, I don't know, I can't seem to select any more however. Mindy Caro: Okay. Well we can work around that um Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: Right. No. Mindy Caro: Cut things out. But you think it should be one. Lisa Harris: It's meant to be one, yeah, I don't know why I put two in there, Mindy Caro: Okay. Lisa Harris: but um Hold on till I find it, I think this shift button might be stuck again. No maybe the shift button's stuck in. Mindy Caro: Yeah. Lisa Harris: Um Kristy Tonn: Mm. Lisa Harris: okay, so Kristy Tonn: Should Lisa Harris: that would take away three, which would give us Oh that's fine. Mindy Caro: Yeah, so Lisa Harris: Eleven Mindy Caro: we're Valda Nelson: Cool. Lisa Harris: uh eleven Euros sixty. Valda Nelson: Cool. Lisa Harris: Um Valda Nelson: So we could even add something. Lisa Harris: We cou Oh not quite, Mindy Caro: We should fire Lisa Harris: have the scroll-wheel, Mindy Caro: the accountants. Lisa Harris: unfortunately. What? Mindy Caro: Fire the accountants. Ah yeah, we could add things. Maybe if you click back in that bottom right cell, where you're starting from, Lisa Harris: Yeah. Mindy Caro: and then use the arrow keys. Does that work? Lisa Harris: Yeah, I know, that Mindy Caro: No Lisa Harris: just extends Mindy Caro: mm. Lisa Harris: it as well. Kristy Tonn: Uh you Lisa Harris: I Kristy Tonn: can Lisa Harris: don't Kristy Tonn: do Lisa Harris: know. Kristy Tonn: one thing. You just select one box outsi yeah, this box. Then move it with the help of this Okay. Lisa Harris: It One of the buttons Kristy Tonn: Just Lisa Harris: is sticking, Kristy Tonn: uh just Lisa Harris: I don't know. Kristy Tonn: uh Okay, just a minute. Okay. No input, like this. Shift. No Lisa Harris: No, it's Kristy Tonn: it's Lisa Harris: 'cause Kristy Tonn: not. Lisa Harris: the uh the shift button's stuck, Kristy Tonn: Yeah, Lisa Harris: or something. Kristy Tonn: it's not working. Mindy Caro: Is Kristy Tonn: Should Mindy Caro: it the Kristy Tonn: we Mindy Caro: other Kristy Tonn: ask Mindy Caro: shift Kristy Tonn: Meli Mindy Caro: button maybe? Kristy Tonn: Should we ask our technical expert Melissa? Lisa Harris: No that's fine. Um we've worked out what it would be anyway. Mindy Caro: Did you try both shift buttons? It could be Lisa Harris: Yeah. Mindy Caro: the other side. Lisa Harris: Cancel. Piss off. Mindy Caro: That's too bad. Lisa Harris: Oh well, never mind. Um. Right, so that's finances and I dunno what we what could we reckon we could add? Um Valda Nelson: Well maybe we could add something, but maybe if What Lisa Harris: Well I suppose Valda Nelson: do you Lisa Harris: that's Valda Nelson: th Lisa Harris: our that's Valda Nelson: We're Lisa Harris: that's Valda Nelson: trying Lisa Harris: our Valda Nelson: to Lisa Harris: design Valda Nelson: save Lisa Harris: that Valda Nelson: money, Lisa Harris: we've got. Valda Nelson: so. Yeah, Lisa Harris: So Valda Nelson: if we're happy with the design there's no point in spending money, if we don't have to. Lisa Harris: Yeah. Valda Nelson: But if there is anything you think we've missed out there, then, you know, feel free to add it. Maybe I mean obviously it would be bigger so there might be more space for the the slogan on the front, because it's Lisa Harris: Yeah Valda Nelson: not in an Lisa Harris: yeah. Valda Nelson: ideal place right now. Lisa Harris: Well that's that's uh Okay, so project evaluation. We have under twelve Euros fifty. Project process, how do we think that went? Are we happy? Mindy Caro: Oh. Valda Nelson: Mm. Mindy Caro: Yeah I think we have a a winning product. Lisa Harris: Okay. Evaluation. Oh we've been writing this up for m Valda Nelson: I think Lisa Harris: months. Valda Nelson: it went quite smoothly. Lisa Harris: Uh room for creativity, were we happy with that? Valda Nelson: W I think we were very creative. Lisa Harris: No, I mea I think it means sort of individually. Valda Nelson: Oh right, okay. Lisa Harris: Yes, no, maybe? Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: Okay. Groovy. So uh we're just gonna. Uh yeah, okay. Teamwork? Leadership, sorry. Mindy Caro: Great Valda Nelson: Excellent Mindy Caro: leadership. Valda Nelson: leadership. Lisa Harris: Thank you very much. You're all get you're all getting a raise. Uh teamwork. I thought went well. Mindy Caro: Yeah, Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Mindy Caro: yeah. Valda Nelson: Yeah, Lisa Harris: Yeah. Valda Nelson: everyone got enough input, I think. Lisa Harris: Uh and well means, yeah. Kristy Tonn: Yeah, Lisa Harris: The Kristy Tonn: we Lisa Harris: technical stuff was brilliant. Let's Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: buy more. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Mindy Caro: These Lisa Harris: I don't Mindy Caro: pens Lisa Harris: know what, new Mindy Caro: are Lisa Harris: ideas Mindy Caro: are neat Lisa Harris: found, Mindy Caro: though. Lisa Harris: means, to be honest. Kristy Tonn: Yeah, these are new ideas, like glow-in-the-dark or something like that. We discussed all the new ideas, but of course we couldn't reach any proper goals, we couldn't use these, but we h we are using these scroll buttons like this. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Lisa Harris: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: These are new ideas we And new shapes, everything. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: Mm 'kay. Kristy Tonn: At le Lisa Harris: Groovy. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Lisa Harris: So just general thumbs up for all of us then. Kristy Tonn: Hmm. Lisa Harris: That kind of unfortunately is too quick. Valda Nelson: Okay. Kristy Tonn: Hmm. Mindy Caro: Okay. Valda Nelson: Well um. Lisa Harris: Uh. I suppose yeah. Mindy Caro: Uh Lisa Harris: Um. Mindy Caro: so let's talk about our bonuses and the raises we're getting Lisa Harris: That's Mindy Caro: for this, Lisa Harris: it, Mindy Caro: right. Lisa Harris: um I think another couple of days holiday pay might be Valda Nelson: Mm. Lisa Harris: well in order for all of you. Mindy Caro: Right, right. Lisa Harris: Uh Let's see if I can get this bloody thing to work. Mindy Caro: Uh Lisa Harris: Whoops. Mindy Caro: maybe we should start cleaning up the clay. Valda Nelson: Yeah, maybe. Kristy Tonn: So Lisa Harris: Does it go back in, does it? Reusable. Mindy Caro: Something we Lisa Harris: I Mindy Caro: should Lisa Harris: don't know Mindy Caro: get. Lisa Harris: what this is Kristy Tonn: So Lisa Harris: but it's really really annoying. Kristy Tonn: Uh Brian, have Lisa Harris: Uh-huh. Kristy Tonn: you have you finished? Lisa Harris: Um Kristy Tonn: Uh Lisa Harris: I have, yes. Kristy Tonn: mine needs also this. Lisa Harris: Huh? Kristy Tonn: At last mine is also the presentation. Lisa Harris: Oh right, okay, you've got more, Valda Nelson: Oh, Lisa Harris: okay. Valda Nelson: you got Kristy Tonn: Yeah, Valda Nelson: a presentation, Lisa Harris: Sorry Valda Nelson: sorry. Lisa Harris: uh. Kristy Tonn: yeah. Mindy Caro: Oh ok Lisa Harris: It didn't bother to tell Kristy Tonn: S Lisa Harris: Kristy Tonn that on this thing. Is it? Okay. Kristy Tonn: Uh Lisa Harris: Doesn't tell Kristy Tonn. Kristy Tonn: is the project evaluated, that is mine. Lisa Harris: Oh you're doing that. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Lisa Harris: We evaluated ourselves, we thought we were great. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Mindy Caro: Uh. Valda Nelson: Mm, love to eat that Mindy Caro: Anybody Valda Nelson: now. Kind of a green Lisa Harris: Mm. Valda Nelson: banana now. Mindy Caro: Clay covered banana. Valda Nelson: It's this as well, sorry, we forgot to mention it'll be made out of kind of a rubbery latex, new material that we've got. Lisa Harris: O okay, Valda Nelson: I've got. Lisa Harris: hold on. Mindy Caro: blue. Lisa Harris: I wonder w which cell do I want. Mindy Caro: It's fun to touch. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Kristy Tonn: So. Lisa Harris: Okay, Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Lisa Harris: I didn't realise you had that bit. Valda Nelson: Oh could you pass the tomato Kristy Tonn: So. Valda Nelson: please. Sorry. Thank you. Kristy Tonn: So now is the final evaluation, final evaluation of the uh uh of our product. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: How we are going to means uh at what standard what standard whether it meets our standards or not. How mu What rating we will give to these products. So of course this is will be a team work, w we together have to decide wha what rating we will give to this product and everything. Lisa Harris: Okay. Kristy Tonn: So what methodology I will tell you on what basis we are going to discuss all this. We will give the rating to this product based on the user requirements, whether it meets the user requirements or not, this product. Then trends, whether it is as fashion trends or not? Means because we have already stated that people do prefer fashionable things nowadays. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: So this is also an important factor for our evaluation also. Then marketing strategy of the company. As we have already discussed that our company is quite in the market, not only in terms of providing quality products, not only in pro providing latest technologies, but also in terms of providing environmental s Valda Nelson: Sorry. Sorry, carry on. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. So but also in terms of providing environmental safe products, uh yeah like uh keeping uh keeping in mind all the safety issues. So Now comes the criteria rating with seven point scale. Lisa Harris: Okay. Kristy Tonn: I'm having this scale this scale, Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: so we have to do it on a board. Valda Nelson: Okay. Lisa Harris: Alright, okay. The board working again, is Kristy Tonn: the Lisa Harris: it? Kristy Tonn: user requirem I think. Mindy Caro: Do we have the uh the marker for the board? Valda Nelson: Um. Lisa Harris: Uh. Mindy Caro: There it is. Kristy Tonn: Thank you. So. Kristy Tonn: So these are the three crite criterias for our evaluation of our product. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: First of all uh comes user requirement. So we will see whether this product meets all user requirements or not. I I will first I would like to have your views, what do you think whether it meets all user requirements or not? Valda Nelson: Um I think Yeah, it did. It Kristy Tonn: S Valda Nelson: had all the basic buttons that they needed as well as the uh new technology that people said they wanted. Lisa Harris: Yeah. Valda Nelson: Um Lisa Harris: When Valda Nelson: so. Lisa Harris: the user requirement is essentially just to operate Valda Nelson: Does it Lisa Harris: the Valda Nelson: work? Lisa Harris: T_V_, so Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: yeah, of Valda Nelson: So. Lisa Harris: course we haven't Kristy Tonn: So Lisa Harris: actually got a working Kristy Tonn: what do Lisa Harris: model Kristy Tonn: you think Lisa Harris: yet. Kristy Tonn: you will personally give. Valda Nelson: I would say seven. Kristy Tonn: Seven. Uh. Valda Nelson: Seven is good, yeah, isn't it? I can't True or false? No sorry tr one Lisa Harris: One, yeah. Valda Nelson: is true. Kristy Tonn: Uh one is means highest ranking, Valda Nelson: Yeah. Kristy Tonn: okay. But I think highest ranking is seven, Lisa Harris: No Kristy Tonn: or one? Lisa Harris: it's Mindy Caro: No Lisa Harris: it's Mindy Caro: that's Lisa Harris: like Mindy Caro: false. Lisa Harris: true is one end, Kristy Tonn: Okay, Lisa Harris: and false Kristy Tonn: right Lisa Harris: is the oth Kristy Tonn: right. Valda Nelson: Okay, so Kristy Tonn: So Valda Nelson: one. Kristy Tonn: it's one for from your point of view. Valda Nelson: Yep. Kristy Tonn: And what do you say our Industrial Mindy Caro: Uh. Kristy Tonn: Expert? Mindy Caro: It's hard to know. I I give it a two. Kristy Tonn: Uh d you can you can tell on on the like I think she has given her views on the basis of design, because she was our i Interface Expert. Mindy Caro: Okay. Kristy Tonn: But you can give your views based on technology, whether the technology meets the requirements of the customers or not? Mindy Caro: Um yeah, I think i it might even exceed it um. But I guess there is a kind of a shortage of buttons. Um I'm gonna give it a two. Kristy Tonn: Two. Mindy Caro: Two. Kristy Tonn: And what about uh you, Brian? Lisa Harris: Oh, I'll go for a one. Kristy Tonn: You will go for one. Lisa Harris: Basic requirements Kristy Tonn: Okay. Lisa Harris: but of the pro of the project. Kristy Tonn: Uh for Kristy Tonn personally it is everything fine, it may be having good design, it may be uh meeting all the requirements of the customers like technology-wise, price-wise, but there is one thing which limits the customers, like we are having only two, three designs, like we are having one banana design and the other one is orange, Valda Nelson: Mm Kristy Tonn: and Valda Nelson: yellow. Kristy Tonn: Uh yeah, lower Lisa Harris: Yeah Kristy Tonn: end. And the third Lisa Harris: th Kristy Tonn: one is what you ge uh that is not a f fruit look. Valda Nelson: Uh-huh. Kristy Tonn: But if Lisa Harris: Come Kristy Tonn: a Lisa Harris: on Kristy Tonn: person Lisa Harris: that was the tha Kristy Tonn: doesn't like banana, or orange, you are limiting him. Valda Nelson: Uh-huh. Kristy Tonn: No, don't Lisa Harris: 'Kay. Kristy Tonn: buy our product, because we are l we like this only. Valda Nelson: Okay. Kristy Tonn: So we are showing our preference for particular fruits, two or three kinds rather, and Lisa Harris: Being fruitist. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Valda Nelson: Is that Kristy Tonn: So. Valda Nelson: no is that not trends? Kristy Tonn: Uh no, uh personally as a Marketing Expert I don't believe that, because whatever companies they launch their products in the shape of fruits, they give a range of products, a range of shapes, Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: Some children like to buy banana shape, some apple shape, some even pineapple shape, some orange shape. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: So you can what shape a person will like. So in this case giving only one or two choices we are lim limiting our customers. And by Valda Nelson: Uh-huh. Kristy Tonn: limiting them, we are limiting our sales, limiting our profit also. Valda Nelson: But in electronics, I think, it's not q always quite so um you don't always have so many choices as with chocolates. Valda Nelson: We were coming up with one product. Kristy Tonn: Uh maybe. Okay but Valda Nelson: No, Kristy Tonn: I Valda Nelson: I mean Kristy Tonn: will Valda Nelson: uh obviously Kristy Tonn: I will Valda Nelson: your Kristy Tonn: personally Valda Nelson: opinion, I'm just trying to Kristy Tonn: won't give it beyond three. Valda Nelson: Okay. Kristy Tonn: So we can Lisa Harris: He's a tough cookie. Kristy Tonn: Yeah, on an average we can think three, four sevenths, maybe. Three or four? Uh, no sorry, it should Lisa Harris: Six. Kristy Tonn: be Lisa Harris: Five or six. Valda Nelson: What are we doing? Kristy Tonn: No Mindy Caro: What are Kristy Tonn: sorry, Mindy Caro: we doing? Kristy Tonn: sorry, sorry, Valda Nelson: Adding Kristy Tonn: sorry, Valda Nelson: them Kristy Tonn: we Valda Nelson: up? Kristy Tonn: are doing a very Mindy Caro: We're gonna Kristy Tonn: wrong Mindy Caro: average Kristy Tonn: thing. Mindy Caro: them? Kristy Tonn: Yeah, yeah, we are taking everything, Mindy Caro: Okay. Kristy Tonn: and that's Valda Nelson: Oh. Kristy Tonn: I have taken Mindy Caro: So Kristy Tonn: it very Mindy Caro: seven Kristy Tonn: wrongly. Mindy Caro: fourths. Kristy Tonn: Yeah uh Mindy Caro: About one Kristy Tonn: three Mindy Caro: point Kristy Tonn: four four Mindy Caro: f Kristy Tonn: two six Mindy Caro: one point Kristy Tonn: seven Mindy Caro: eight. Kristy Tonn: seven sev Yeah one pe exactly. So we can say one or two. Mindy Caro: Okay. Valda Nelson: Okay. Kristy Tonn: because it is one point eight Lisa Harris: Oh I see. Kristy Tonn: uh two, so we will do Mindy Caro: Yeah Kristy Tonn: two. Mindy Caro: round it up to two. Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Valda Nelson: Okay, yeah. Kristy Tonn: So Mindy Caro: So trends. Kristy Tonn: where were the trends. Mindy Caro: Can you explain what you want us to write there? Kristy Tonn: Sorry? Mindy Caro: How it how conforms to the current trends? Kristy Tonn: Yeah, again the the fashion trends, this also like whether it it will be fashionable to have these products in the Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: uh as a fruit shape or something. Valda Nelson: Okay. Kristy Tonn: Uh. Valda Nelson: Well um going on uh the specifications that we had, that fruit and vegetables are quite popular, and that people like something that is good to look at and not many buttons, I would give it um, well, because it's hard to make a fruit good to look at, that that looks cool, you know, so I would actually give it a three. Tha three or four, I'm not sure. Three. Kristy Tonn: Okay. Valda Nelson: Go Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Valda Nelson: for three. That's fine. Kristy Tonn: Uh Mindy Caro: 'Kay. As far as the uh technology it its' got the latest trends in speech technology, but it's missing the screen, as we said, um but it does have the push-buttons, or the scroll-buttons, um but it doesn't have that fancy solar power or the the vibrating energy mechanism. So I give it a a four. I'd give it a kinda middle of the road for Valda Nelson: Mm. Mindy Caro: for technology. Lisa Harris: Yeah, I am sort of pret uh Just the fruit does Kristy Tonn in, I mean uh it might it might be trendy to some, but I'm just not swallowing the fruit, so Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: um Uh also uh I would have liked to have seen the L_C_D_ screen in it. Um so yeah I'd say about four as well. Kristy Tonn: Okay. Uh personally I wi uh I think that in terms of trends, these products are quite good, like, these products are in fruit shape, because that wha people now our fashion trend shows that people like everything all f everything that is being advertised, like clothes, shoes, and everything is being Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: advertised in the form of fruits and vegetables, or getting them or showing some association with them. So and in this way our product is good. And the second thing, now people don't want any complicated or bulky products and ours is quite simple and quite handy. Valda Nelson: Mm-hmm. Kristy Tonn: So that is also ef that also Our product meets the f the fashion uh trends of the market. And yes. It is cus spongy also. So they can play with it, it's quite good. So then I think, maybe I can give it two. So four five ten thirteen thirteen. So we can Is it fine? So what Mindy Caro: Yeah. Kristy Tonn: about company strategy? Mindy Caro: Well Valda Nelson: Um. Mindy Caro: it was yellow. Valda Nelson: Yeah, the company strategy, okay. Um there was lot of discussing, that was good. Um I feel I got my say. Um so I'd give the company strategy a two. Kristy Tonn: Okay. Mindy Caro: Well, I think it's the the remote control conforms to the the company strategy. Valda Nelson: Okay. Lisa Harris: Yeah, Mindy Caro: Is that the question? Lisa Harris: yeah. Valda Nelson: Is it? Okay. Mindy Caro: Um. Valda Nelson: Okay, so one or two. Mindy Caro: Yeah. Valda Nelson: One. Okay, just leave it, it's fine. Mindy Caro: I'll go with two. Kristy Tonn: So what about you, Brian? Lisa Harris: Um yeah, a three. Pretty much kept to the company strategy, so I would go for a a one, as we not only kept it, but we were limited by Valda Nelson: Mm. Kristy Tonn: Yeah, and Kristy Tonn also, like, this product Kristy Tonn uh Kristy Tonn uh Kristy Tonn uh this meets all company strategy like our product should be as per customers' requirement, as per latest technology, and it should be environmental safe. So since our product meets all these requirements, so I would also prefer to give it rank one. So four six Mindy Caro: So one Kristy Tonn: six Mindy Caro: and a half. Valda Nelson: Yeah, Kristy Tonn: half. Valda Nelson: one. Kristy Tonn: So we can say two or one Mindy Caro: A two. Kristy Tonn: Okay. So th seven seven. Uh overall we are getting two something, but we can round it as two. Mindy Caro: Yep. Valda Nelson: Okay. Lisa Harris: Cool, Kristy Tonn: Yeah. Lisa Harris: groovy. Kristy Tonn: So I Mindy Caro: S Kristy Tonn: think overall uh evaluation of our product is quite good. Lisa Harris: Cool. Kristy Tonn: So we can launch it. Yeah. Lisa Harris: Brilliant. Valda Nelson: Woo-hoo. Lisa Harris: In which case we are done. 'Cause we've evaluated and we are within budget. Valda Nelson: Cool. Mindy Caro: Okay. Kristy Tonn: So Lisa Harris: Champagne lunch Kristy Tonn: yeah. Valda Nelson: Yeah. Lisa Harris: anyone? Mindy Caro: Uh. Kristy Tonn: Great.	Valda Nelson and Mindy Caro presented their prototypes to the group. Two prototypes featured different fruit shapes, with one including speech recognition instead of a large number of buttons. It also featured scroll wheels for channel control. The other prototype was designed like a banana with children users in mind. Lisa Harris announced to the group that with all of their desired features, the project would go over the alotted budget; after a reanalysis of the features of the prototype, the project came in under the budget instead. It was decided that another feature could possibly be added. The group evaluated their effectiveness as a team and felt that all members worked well together and could be creative, and that the project had very good leadership. Kristy Tonn led an evaluation of the prototype according to the initial project goals; the evaluation showed that most of the goals had been sufficiently satisfied in order to launch the product.	4	amisum	train
Denice Lee: ... Luanne Washington: Okay. So, this is uh first meeting of design project. Um and I um like to show you the agenda for the meeting, I don't know if it was sent round to all of you. Denice Lee: Mm, yeah. Luanne Washington: Maybe Denice Lee: I Luanne Washington: not. Denice Lee: receive Luanne Washington: Anyway, Denice Lee: it. Luanne Washington: this is the the plan for today's meeting is um firstly just to introduce the project briefly, um although I'm sure you've actually got some of the information already. Then the main purpose is to so that we get to know each other a little bit more. Julie Murphy: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: Um then we practice using some of the tools that we'll be using during the the course of the design project and the meetings um specifically the whiteboard over there. Um then we need to go through the specifics of our project plan um and discuss come up with some preliminary ideas about it. And then that's it. So we've got twenty five minutes to do that, that's until eleven twenty five. S so any Julie Murphy: so sh. Luanne Washington: any questions? Is i Denice Lee: Not at this point. Luanne Washington: not at this point. So this is our project. What we're aiming to do is to create a new remote control for a television. Um we want it to be something original, something trendy and also something user friendly, so it has to be quite intuitive that people are able to use this product. Luanne Washington: The method that we're going to use to complete the project, that has three components as such. There's the functional design of the the remote control. We're going the way we'll do that I think is to to work individually initially and then come together for meetings to to work on that. Um similarly with the conceptual design, we'll start off by working individually with our own expertise on our own laptops and then we'll bring what we've done together. Um and then the detailed design will come after that. We'll pull it all together. Julie Murphy: I'm a bit confused about uh what's the difference between the functional design and conceptual design? Uh i is it just uh more detail, uh as I understand it? Luanne Washington: I think it th w we're talking the the functional design is more your um area of things where you'll be we want to look at what functions we need in the remote control and Julie Murphy: Right. Luanne Washington: what what specific things it it has to do but the conceptual design is um perhaps bigger than that and includes the Julie Murphy: How Luanne Washington: how people Julie Murphy: how Luanne Washington: are going Julie Murphy: it Luanne Washington: to Julie Murphy: will Luanne Washington: use Julie Murphy: be done. Luanne Washington: it and and that kind of thing. Julie Murphy: So whe where do we identify the components of our uh product? Uh I think it's it's in the conceptual design phase that we identify the it's in the conceptual design phase that we identify the components of our product? Luanne Washington: Um I think we'll we'll start that initially with the functional design Julie Murphy: Okay. Luanne Washington: already but then yeah. Okay, so that's just a brief overview of the p the the project itself. Um what I'd like us to do now is simultaneously introduce ourselves and start using some of the tools that we're using for for the project, specifically the whiteboard. Julie Murphy: Hmm. Luanne Washington: So each person in turn, I'd like us to go up to the whiteboard, the pen's just underneath it there and draw your favourite animal and then tell everyone what the f your favourite characteristics of that animal are and while you're doing that tell us your name, what your role is and perhaps how your animal relates to the role that you're taking in this project. Brittany Juarez: Why are you looking at Brittany Juarez? Luanne Washington: Would you like to go first? Brittany Juarez: Do I have a choice? Okay. Ooh ooh, Luanne Washington: Oh, Brittany Juarez: things falling everywhere. Luanne Washington: yeah, Brittany Juarez: Right, okay. Luanne Washington: p put them in pockets. Brittany Juarez: Cool. Luanne Washington: You Brittany Juarez: Okay. Luanne Washington: don't have to hurry, we've got plenty of time. Brittany Juarez: So, my name's Cat and I'm really not very good at this whole drawing malarkey so um Brittany Juarez: Okay. Luanne Washington: It's got no eyes. Brittany Juarez: Oh, good point. Ah, the eyes always ruin it. Right. Okay, what do it's eyes like? Brittany Juarez: Okay, cool. Um this is a rabbit. Luanne Washington: I thought it might be a cat. Denice Lee: Yeah well origi uh at first I thought it was going to be cat. Brittany Juarez: Yeah, I don't think it's furry enough, Denice Lee: Yeah Brittany Juarez: make Denice Lee: now Brittany Juarez: it a Denice Lee: I Brittany Juarez: fluffy Denice Lee: now Brittany Juarez: rabbit. Denice Lee: I understand now, yeah. Luanne Washington: Yeah I can see by the ears. Denice Lee: Yeah. Brittany Juarez: Okay, right, it's a fluffy rabbit, blue. Rabbits don't come in blue but you know. Um okay and I like it because it's small Luanne Washington: Mm. Brittany Juarez: and it's fluffy. And one day you'll be able to getical genetically modify them and they will come in pink. Denice Lee: Ah. Brittany Juarez: Okay? Luanne Washington: Excellent, Julie Murphy: Mm. Luanne Washington: and what's your what's your role within the team? Brittany Juarez: I am the um I need my notebook, mm ooh top banana. Thank you. Okay, cool, I am Brittany Juarez um so like I'm gonna be doing the apparently according to the little guy in the computer that knows everything the user g requirements specification of the functional design, um Julie Murphy: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: trend watching in the conceptual design and product evad-valuation in the detailed design Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Julie Murphy: Okay. Brittany Juarez: um so yeah. Luanne Washington: And more Julie Murphy: 'Kay. Luanne Washington: about yourself, you're from? Brittany Juarez: Um I'm from Leicester, Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: um second year. Um what else do you want to know? I like sports um yeah, aerobics, kickboxing, spinning um and uh Luanne Washington: But not with rabbits. Brittany Juarez: not with rabbits, no Julie Murphy: Mm. Brittany Juarez: no. And vets, I like vets as well. And yeah um and I like cocktails, especially pink ones. Okay? Julie Murphy: Cool. Luanne Washington: Excellent, Brittany Juarez: Cool. Luanne Washington: to match the rabbit. Denice Lee: Okay. Um so my name is Maarika. Where's the pen? Okay. Luanne Washington: There's a an if you have not enough room there's an eraser there and you can rub Denice Lee: Yeah, Luanne Washington: it off. Denice Lee: well, or I can make it smaller. Uh so um um I'm the Interface Designer in this project and my favourite animal I, m I mean I'm not so sure because I'm not so so very um familiar with all kinds of animals, but I do like dogs. Oh, sorry, maybe I should have shouldn't have said it beforehand but Julie Murphy: Mm. Denice Lee: mm hmm. Um well, there are different kinds of dogs, but okay um. Julie Murphy: That's not bad at Luanne Washington: Ah Julie Murphy: all. Luanne Washington: it looks like a dog. Julie Murphy: Yep. Denice Lee: Okay. Brittany Juarez: Is a bit more impressive than my rabbit. I think it needs four legs if it's gonna walk though. Denice Lee: Yeah, maybe it has some colourful patches, yeah. Um Luanne Washington: the other Denice Lee: yeah Luanne Washington: legs Denice Lee: and Luanne Washington: are on the other Denice Lee: I Luanne Washington: side. Denice Lee: do like dogs because they are good friends to people and they are loyal. Mm, well that's compared to some other animals like cats. Um they're really much more fun because they are not so independent. Um yeah maybe maybe the fact that they protect their home as well, yeah. Um what it has to do with with my role in the project is hard to say. Uh I hope to be loyal to the project and not to n not to um let people doing similar projects know the details of our project or something, yeah. Luanne Washington: And where where are you from? Denice Lee: I'm from Estonia uh, Luanne Washington: Estonia. Denice Lee: yep. Um so is there anything else you'd like to know? Oh, right, my roles, um so um in the different um stages of the design, so at first I will be responsible for um for yeah, designing the technical functions of the um um of the remote control uh then in the in the conceptual design stage I need to um come up with uh interface concept and then in the last um stage I will be responsible for the int infa for the user interface design. Okay, Julie Murphy: Thank you. Denice Lee: that's it. Julie Murphy: Okay um I'll do some I'll rub the features and let the drawing stay. 'Kay um my name is Gaurav. Um my favourite animal one of my favourite animals is a cow. I've got no idea how to draw a cow. Luanne Washington: Good luck. Julie Murphy: Uh this is going to be Brittany Juarez: They're not just like a big round body and then some really skinny legs and then just Julie Murphy: Yeah, Brittany Juarez: some Julie Murphy: that'll Brittany Juarez: horns. Julie Murphy: do. Okay, so let let Brittany Juarez draw the body first. Luanne Washington: Mm. Julie Murphy: Big, round body, really skinny legs and they've got a long tail and a long face. Luanne Washington: It's eating. Brittany Juarez: It looks like Eeyore. Julie Murphy: And there is some grass there. Luanne Washington: Yeah. Julie Murphy: So this is what I like about cows that Brittany Juarez: Horns, Julie Murphy: they just keeps Brittany Juarez: draw some Julie Murphy: sitting Brittany Juarez: horns. Julie Murphy: there eating grass, they do not disturb anybody um they're kind of Buddhist in a way. So yeah, I like cows. Um my my role in the project is um uh Julie Murphy, so I'm supposed to design all the details of of the product um ho how it works and whatever it'll mm take during the functional role, what are the various functions that have to be performed by it uh during the um conceptual design, what are the various components of it and um finally, I'm not too sure what was the last part. Um the detailed design, I I guess it will again be the identification of the components and how they integrate with each other. Um I'm from India. Uh I'm doing my P_H_D_ in Psycholinguistics, I sit at the Department of Psychology. Yeah. Luanne Washington: Excellent. Julie Murphy: Thank you. Denice Lee: Thanks. Luanne Washington: Right, now now it's my turn obviously. Luanne Washington: Okay, Julie Murphy: That doesn't Luanne Washington: here's Julie Murphy: look Luanne Washington: a space. Julie Murphy: like a cow, does Denice Lee: It Julie Murphy: it? Denice Lee: looks very very cute. Luanne Washington: Yeah, I like the cow. I'm Denice Lee: Yeah. Luanne Washington: Jen. Denice Lee: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: Um I like dogs too, but I can't do that already because I can't draw a dog as well as you can. I like Mm. Brittany Juarez: Is that a lizard? Julie Murphy: No way. Luanne Washington: Hmm. Denice Lee: Wow. Luanne Washington: It's a gecko. Denice Lee: Ah, Julie Murphy: Ah Denice Lee: a gecko, Julie Murphy: okay. Denice Lee: okay. Luanne Washington: Yeah. Brittany Juarez: Is there a difference? Denice Lee: Is a ar Luanne Washington: They're Denice Lee: are they also like lizards or are they Luanne Washington: Yeah, Denice Lee: yeah, Luanne Washington: they're l Denice Lee: they Luanne Washington: it's Denice Lee: are Luanne Washington: a kind of lizard. Denice Lee: mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: And I I like geckos because they remind Brittany Juarez of warm places Denice Lee: Ah. Luanne Washington: and, Julie Murphy: Uh-huh. Luanne Washington: and where I was living in Cambodia they used to live in my house and they were on the ceiling and they would make little gecko noises Denice Lee: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: in Denice Lee: I hope Luanne Washington: the Denice Lee: you Luanne Washington: evening. Denice Lee: don't like snakes, do you? Luanne Washington: I don't like snakes. I come Denice Lee: Okay. Luanne Washington: from Australia and we have nasty snakes. Denice Lee: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: That's where I'm from, Australia. I'm from Melbourne and I'm your Project Manager for today and Julie Murphy: Mm. Luanne Washington: my role is basically to keep things going and make sure that you all work together in a productive way, so that by the end of the day we come up with a great product. Denice Lee: Wonderful. Luanne Washington: Okay. Julie Murphy: Thank you. Luanne Washington: So, let's see what's next in the PowerPoint presentation. So, Brittany Juarez: If Luanne Washington: I've Brittany Juarez: you Luanne Washington: just Brittany Juarez: right Luanne Washington: thought Brittany Juarez: click Luanne Washington: yeah Brittany Juarez: on it Luanne Washington: I've Brittany Juarez: you Luanne Washington: just Brittany Juarez: can Luanne Washington: thought about this that we could even put it much more professionally Julie Murphy: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: as there we go. Okay, so this is the um overall budget for our project. We've got um we're planning to sell these remote controls for that means we've got five minutes. Um we're planning to sell the remote controls for twenty five Euros each. Um and with that we're aiming for a profit of fifty million Euros. And that's selling them on the international market, not just in the U_K_. Um so to do that our finance people estimate that we need production costs of maximum twelve and a half Euro so that we can reach that profit target. Luanne Washington: So that's something to keep in mind while you're designing. Okay. Hmm. This is let Brittany Juarez just skip ahead to see that's the last thing, okay. We've only got a couple of minutes. Does anyone have any first ideas to bounce around about um what we're thinking of this Denice Lee: Yep. Luanne Washington: remote control? Denice Lee: I'm just wondering whether whether there is like any special feature that we want to have w want this remote control have as opposed to the already existing ones. Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. I think that's probably something that w it's best if we take away with us, but if Julie Murphy: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: we all have a think, when we go away from the meeting, what specific things could be um included in this remote control that that Julie Murphy: I think uh Luanne Washington: are out Julie Murphy: i Luanne Washington: of Julie Murphy: in Luanne Washington: the ordinary. Julie Murphy: the beginning uh one thing was that was mentioned was that it should be mm trendy, user friendly and original so um I think your point is relevant as far as the originality is concerned, that we should provide some features that are quite unique Luanne Washington: Something Julie Murphy: to this. Luanne Washington: something new. Brittany Juarez: Yeah, I was looking Julie Murphy: Mm. Brittany Juarez: at the website, and the other things that they've made and I like put down some like inspirational words like that I got from looking at the pictures. Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: So the motto is um we put the fashion in electronics and um so it's something that is sleek and stylish but it's still functional, Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: you know? So I'm kind of thinking, you know like those phones that they have, the new generation ones, where they don't actually have any buttons on them and stuff like that. Luanne Washington: Uh-huh. Julie Murphy: Alright. Brittany Juarez: You know, so something heading towards that, so it's not overly I mean I don't know what h most of the buttons do on my remote controls, so I figure how many do you need, you know? Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Julie Murphy: Mm. Brittany Juarez: Okay. Luanne Washington: So perhaps some sort of menu-based thing, or Brittany Juarez: Something that's a little less crowded than this, like Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: I mean you know, theoretically you can do all kinds of things with your T_V_, right? Luanne Washington: Yeah. Brittany Juarez: But what do most people do? They turn it on, they watch Julie Murphy: Yeah. Brittany Juarez: certain specified channels, Luanne Washington: Yeah. Brittany Juarez: you know, and then they turn it off again. Julie Murphy: There is a Brittany Juarez: Sometimes Julie Murphy: lot of functionality Brittany Juarez: they play a movie. Julie Murphy: in there that is not used ninety percent of the time, Brittany Juarez: Yeah, Luanne Washington: Yeah. Julie Murphy: but Brittany Juarez: so Julie Murphy: will be used ten percent of the time, Brittany Juarez: there's no Luanne Washington: So, Julie Murphy: yeah. Brittany Juarez: need to have buttons on it to Luanne Washington: no. Brittany Juarez: do that, maybe to Julie Murphy: Yep. Brittany Juarez: do Luanne Washington: It could be one button for a menu or something, if Brittany Juarez: Yeah. Luanne Washington: you Denice Lee: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: really Julie Murphy: And Luanne Washington: need Julie Murphy: then Luanne Washington: to go Julie Murphy: use Luanne Washington: and do Brittany Juarez: So, Julie Murphy: the Luanne Washington: that. Brittany Juarez: if you're the kind of sad case that knows how your remote control works, then you know Julie Murphy: Mm. Brittany Juarez: that's fine and you can do it on the screen rather than everybody else having to have those buttons, which just confuse them. Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Brittany Juarez: Hmm. Luanne Washington: Excellent. Brittany Juarez: 'Cause like if you look at the train, it's just very like, there's no extra bits on it, the train on the website and I dunno if Luanne Washington: Oh I Brittany Juarez: you Luanne Washington: haven't Brittany Juarez: can put Luanne Washington: had Brittany Juarez: it Luanne Washington: a look Brittany Juarez: up on Luanne Washington: yet, Brittany Juarez: the thing Luanne Washington: yep. Brittany Juarez: um but it is just like a long like thing used for mu moving people, but it looks really pretty too. Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Great. Any other immediate thoughts Julie Murphy: Mm. Luanne Washington: before we move along? Julie Murphy: Uh we can aim for I mean we can think about all these little things, but we can aim for something wi that gives a high battery life, although Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Julie Murphy: I don't think that um it's a huge problem for remote controls anyway, battery life, uh every now and then you need to replace the batteries. Luanne Washington: Yeah. Julie Murphy: Um Denice Lee: Yeah but Julie Murphy: Hmm. Denice Lee: uh I mean e even though it has to be re original we shouldn't uh go like too far away from from the usual ones, because otherwise Julie Murphy: Yeah. Denice Lee: the new users will just have a Julie Murphy: A Denice Lee: lot Julie Murphy: big learning Denice Lee: of problems Julie Murphy: curve, Denice Lee: with l Julie Murphy: yeah. Luanne Washington: Mm-hmm. Denice Lee: learning, yeah, yeah. Julie Murphy: Yeah. So, i it should kind of fit in as well, and Luanne Washington: It's like Julie Murphy: the Luanne Washington: those fancy websites Julie Murphy: stereotype of a Denice Lee: Hm-hmm. Julie Murphy: yeah. Luanne Washington: that you can't access because you have no idea how to get in, but the designers thought they were great. Okay, so we need to wrap it up now, so that we can go away and get on with some of this. Um we've got another meeting in thirty minutes, so you're you'll be getting specific instructions once you go back to your workspace, but im basically you're looking at the working design, Julie Murphy: Alright. Luanne Washington: you're looking at the technical functions design, and for you it's the user requirements specification, Brittany Juarez: Mm-hmm. Luanne Washington: like you said at the start. Okay? Denice Lee: Okay. Luanne Washington: Thanks for that. Denice Lee: Thank you. Luanne Washington: Uh I'll see you in half an hour. Denice Lee: See you. Luanne Washington: Carry the laptops back again. Julie Murphy: Hmm. Luanne Washington: Do we need to unplug things? Probably.	Luanne Washington opens the meeting by going over the agenda. She explains the project, which is to create a new remote control for television that should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The three components of completing the project will be functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They introduce themselves by going up to the white board and stating their name, role, drawing their favorite animal, and sharing their favorite characteristic about the animal. After they talk about their overall budget, they discuss what special features they want to include in this remote control that existing ones do not have. They discuss making a menu-based remote which would be less crowded with buttons and therefore stylish and sleek but functional. They end the meeting with Luanne Washington going over the task each member is to complete before the next meeting.	4	amisum	train
Jessie Davis: All hooked up. Okay, so now we are here at the functional design meeting. Um hopefully this meeting I'll be doing a little bit less talking than I did last time 'cause this is when you get to show us what you've been doing individually. The agenda for the meeting, I put it in the sh shared documents folder. I don't know if that meant that you could see it or not. Did anyone? Cassandra Ortiz: No. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: No. Oh well. Um I'll try and the meeting as well so if you check in there, there's a shared project documents folder. Um and it should be in there. Cassandra Ortiz: Mm. Um um wi on on a what? Oh project project documents, yeah, Jessie Davis: Project Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: documents, Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, okay. Jessie Davis: yeah. So I'll put it in Cassandra Ortiz: Oh okay, Jessie Davis: there. Is Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Jessie Davis: it best if I send you an email maybe, to let you know it's there? Cassandra Ortiz: Yes, Jessie Davis: Yep. Cassandra Ortiz: I think so. Jessie Davis: I'll do that next time. Um I'll act as secretary for this meeting and just take minutes as we go through, and then I'll send them to you after the meeting. The main the main focus of this meeting is your presentations that you've been preparing during the time, so we'll go through each of you one by one. Um then we need to briefly discuss the new project requirements that were sent to us. I Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Jessie Davis: just Cassandra Ortiz: the Jessie Davis: sent Cassandra Ortiz: last minute, yeah, Jessie Davis: at the last minute, Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Jessie Davis: I'm sorry about that, but we can see how that affects what Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: you were you were doing. Um and then we need to, by the end of the meeting come to some kind of decision on who our target group's going to be and what the functions of the remote control that's the the main goal is to come up with those two things, target group and functions of the remote control. And we've got forty minutes to do that in. So I would Mary Cohoon: You said Jessie Davis: say Mary Cohoon: uh targ Jessie Davis: yeah? Mary Cohoon: target groups, what mean? Jessie Davis: As Cassandra Ortiz: Um Jessie Davis: uh who it is that we're going to be trying to sell this thing to, Mary Cohoon: Uh okay, 'kay. Jessie Davis: yeah. Mary Cohoon: So are Jessie Davis: So we need to yeah, we need to have a fairly defined group Mary Cohoon: Okay. Jessie Davis: that that we want to focus on and then look at the functions um of the dem remote control itself. So with that I think it's best if I hand over to you. Does anyone have Mary Cohoon: Alright. Jessie Davis: a preference for going first? Mary Cohoon: I can go first, Jessie Davis: You wanna go Cassandra Ortiz: Okay. Jessie Davis: first? Mary Cohoon: yeah. Jessie Davis: Okay, Cassandra Ortiz: Hmm. Jessie Davis: so we need to unplug my laptop and plug in yours. I assume we just pull it out? Cassandra Ortiz: Mm. Mary Cohoon: Right. Um so f from the Jessie Davis: Just before you start, to make it easier, would you three mind emailing Darnell Harris your presentations? Once we you don't have Cassandra Ortiz: Okay, Jessie Davis: to do it now Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: but when Cassandra Ortiz: afterwards, yeah, Jessie Davis: once Cassandra Ortiz: okay. Jessie Davis: you go back, Mary Cohoon: Right sure. Jessie Davis: just so that I don't have to scribble everything down. Mary Cohoon: Uh okay. So n uh with uh with regard to the uh working design of this uh uh remote control uh I've identified um a few basic uh components of the remote and uh se uh from the design, functional design perspective um c we can now uh know wha what exactly components are and how how they work together with each other. So this is the method that uh I'll mostly be following in my um in my uh role. Um the identification of the components, uh and uh since since I'm dealing only with the technical aspects, I would need feedback from the marketing person uh and uh from the user interface person. Jessie Davis: Hmm. Mary Cohoon: Uh we'll then integrate this into the product design at a technical level and uh basically update and come up with a new design, so it's a cyclical process. Okay, so these were the basic findings from today. The last three bullets have been integrated from uh the last minute uh email. Uh I just quickly jotted them down. Um so basically uh the as I told you the identification of how the remote control works and what are the various parts to it uh and what are the different processes um and how the parts uh communicate with each other. Um okay, so e the mee email said that teletext is now outdated, so we need to do away with that functionality of the remote control. Um also uh the remote control should be used only for television, because incorporating other features um makes it more comp complex. And the reason why teletext is outdated because uh of internet and uh the availability of internet over television. How however, our our remote control would only be dealing uh with the the use for television, in order to keep things simple. Um also the management wants that um our design should be unique uh it so it should incorporate um colour and the slogan uh that our company um has it as its standard. Okay, so he he here is a functional overview of the remote control. Um there's basically an energy source at the heart uh which feeds into the chip and the user interface. The user interf interface communicates with the chip, so I'll basic go over to the Mary Cohoon: Okay. So if uh if this is our energy source and this is a cell, uh it communicates uh it feeds energy into the into the chip, which basically finds out h uh how how to do everything. There is a user interface here. So whe when the user presses a button, it feeds into the chip and the chip then generates a response and takes the response to an infrared terminal, um which then so the output of the chip is an infrared bit code, which is then communicated to the remote site, which h has an infrared receiver. Um the there can be uh a bulb here or something to indicate whether the remote is on or communicating. Um so these are the essent so a all the functionality of the remote control, whatever new functions that we need to do, um make the chip more complicated uh Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: and bigger, basically. Mary Cohoon: Okay. Um so i in my personal preferences um I'm hoping that we can ke keep the design as simple and clear as possible. This would uh help us uh to upgrade our technology at a future point of time. And uh also if we can incorporate uh the latest features in our chip design, so that our um uh remote control does not become outdated soon and it's compatible with mot most uh televisions. That's about it. So Jessie Davis: Okay. Cassandra Ortiz: Thanks. Mary Cohoon: anything that you would like to know or Jessie Davis: Do you have any um i idea about costs at this point? Mary Cohoon: No, Jessie Davis: Br Mary Cohoon: I don't have any idea about what each component costs. Um Jessie Davis: Okay. Mary Cohoon: yeah. Jessie Davis: 'Cause that's something Mary Cohoon: Anything else? Jessie Davis: to consider, I guess, if we're Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Jessie Davis: if we're using more advanced technology, it might Mary Cohoon: Certainly, yeah. So Jessie Davis: increase Mary Cohoon: so tha yeah, Jessie Davis: the Mary Cohoon: we Jessie Davis: price. Mary Cohoon: definitely need to operate within our constraints, Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: but um unfortunately I I do not have any data, so uh I just identified the functional components for Jessie Davis: That's Mary Cohoon: that. Jessie Davis: fine. Are there any more questions, or shall we just skip straight to the next one and then we can discuss all of them together Cassandra Ortiz: I Jessie Davis: at Cassandra Ortiz: think Jessie Davis: the end? Cassandra Ortiz: we need like some general discussion at the end Jessie Davis: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: probably. Mary Cohoon: Yeah, Jessie Davis: I think that will do. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: okay. Jessie Davis: Okay, so do you want to Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, I think since since we were discussing some um issues then Jessie Davis: Yes, Cassandra Ortiz: I I Jessie Davis: shall Cassandra Ortiz: I would like to continue Jessie Davis: shall Cassandra Ortiz: okay, Jessie Davis: we pull this Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Jessie Davis: up? I think that has to come out of Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Jessie Davis: there. Mary Cohoon: Mm Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: 'kay. Cassandra Ortiz: Thanks. Jessie Davis: Yeah, I thought Cassandra Ortiz: Oh i Jessie Davis: those last minute things, they're gonna hit you the worst. Cassandra Ortiz: Okay, I hope wait. Should it just Mary Cohoon: I it'll take some time. Jessie Davis: It ta takes a little Cassandra Ortiz: There's just Jessie Davis: Oh, Cassandra Ortiz: nothing. Jessie Davis: and have you you need to then also press on yours, Cassandra Ortiz: Oh right, right, right, Jessie Davis: function Cassandra Ortiz: um Jessie Davis: F_ eight, so the blue function key at the bottom Cassandra Ortiz: Okay. Jessie Davis: and F_ eight. Cassandra Ortiz: Nothin okay, Mary Cohoon: Oh, Cassandra Ortiz: something Mary Cohoon: there it is, yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: is coming Jessie Davis: Now Cassandra Ortiz: up. Jessie Davis: it's coming, Mary Cohoon: It'll come up, it Jessie Davis: computer Mary Cohoon: um uh Cassandra Ortiz: No signal? Jessie Davis: no Mary Cohoon: no signal. Jessie Davis: signal. Cassandra Ortiz: Why? Jessie Davis: Maybe again? Mary Cohoon: Yeah yeah, it says something now, Cassandra Ortiz: Oh. Mary Cohoon: adjusting Cassandra Ortiz: My my computer went blank now. Jessie Davis: Okay, Cassandra Ortiz: Adjusting. Jessie Davis: adjusting. Cassandra Ortiz: But I don't see Jessie Davis: There Cassandra Ortiz: anything Jessie Davis: we go, Mary Cohoon: Okay. Jessie Davis: there we go. Cassandra Ortiz: I don't see anything on my computer now. This Mary Cohoon: Oh, that's Cassandra Ortiz: is the Jessie Davis: Oh, Cassandra Ortiz: problem, Jessie Davis: if Mary Cohoon: strange. Jessie Davis: you Cassandra Ortiz: but Jessie Davis: press if you press function and that again there's there's usually three modes, one where it's only here, one where Mary Cohoon: Okay. Jessie Davis: it's only there, and one where it's both. Cassandra Ortiz: Um. Mary Cohoon: And Jessie Davis: Okay, so one Mary Cohoon: one Jessie Davis: more Mary Cohoon: more time. Jessie Davis: time. Cassandra Ortiz: Uh now it's okay. No? No. Jessie Davis: Should Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: yeah just wait for a moment, adjusting. Cassandra Ortiz: Oh okay. Okay, Jessie Davis: Okay. Cassandra Ortiz: that's fine, that's good. Okay, let's start from the beginning. So I'm going to speak about technical functions design uh just like some some first issues that came up. Um 'kay, so the method I was um adopting at this point, it's not um for the for the whole um period of the um all the project but it's just at th at this very moment. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: Um uh my method was um to look at um other um remote controls, uh so mostly just by searching on the web and to see what um functionality they used. And then um after having got this inspiration and having compared what I found on the web um just to think about what the de what the user really needs and what um what the user might desire as additional uh functionalities. And yeah, and then just to um put the main function of the remote control in in words. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: Um so the findings uh were um that the main function of the remote control is is just sending messages to the television set, so this quite straightforward. And uh w some of the main functions would be switching on, switching off, uh then the user would like to switch the channel um for example just m changing to the next channel to to flip through all all of the possible channels, or then mm uh the other possibility would be that um she might just want to choose one particular channel, so we would need the numbers. And and also the volume is very important. Um um Mary Cohoon: Sorry, Cassandra Ortiz: I Mary Cohoon: cou Cassandra Ortiz: als Mary Cohoon: could you go back for Cassandra Ortiz: okay. Mary Cohoon: a second? Uh switching on off channel, uh volume, okay, that's great. Cassandra Ortiz: 'Kay. Um um among the findings I found that m m most of the curr mm presently available remote controls also include other mm functionalities um in their design, like operating a V_C_R_, but they don't seem to be able to deal with D_V_D_ players, but then there are surely there are many other functionali functions that could possibly be added to them, but according to the last minute update um Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: actually um we do not want to have all this complicated functions added to our design. So my personal preferences would be uh to keep the mm the whole remote control small um just like the physical size. And then it must be easy to use, so it must follow some conventions um like whereabouts you find the on off button and maybe the colour tends to be red or something. Um then yeah, the must-have buttons would be on off and then the channel numbers and then um the one that allows us to go to the next or the previous channel, and then volume has to be there. But then um other functionalities um could be just uh there could be a menu button and you could change things on the screen then, um for example brightness and mm similar functions could be just um done through the menu. And yeah, the last question I had about whether we wanted to incorporate n uh more functionalities, the answer was already no because of the last minute update. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: So at the for the time being that's uh that's all. If you Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: have questions Jessie Davis: If I mean that was the the directive that came through from management, but if we had a a decent case for that we really think it's important to include video and D_V_D_, I could get back to them and see. It's w it's just whether it's worth arguing about. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, and also it's it's um other question is uh because there are so many different And there are so many different things that could possibly be included because Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: besides video and D_V_D_ there are the mm um video C_D_s and whatever, so Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: it might be problematic to to choose between Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: all these possible things. Jessie Davis: Okay. Are there any questions for clarification of Maarika before we go on to the next one? Mary Cohoon: So in the u user interface requirements uh uh uh we we have been able to identify what are the basic buttons that we do want. Um but um so so at this stage, uh how we go about implementing those button we will not identify or I mean in we can completely do away with buttons But uh is is there any uh uh any thoughts on that? Cassandra Ortiz: Um well, I think the buttons are still mm kind of the most um easy for the user to use, I mean Mary Cohoon: Right. Cassandra Ortiz: um what other options would you have? A little screen or something, but this would be really Mary Cohoon: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: kind of Mary Cohoon: and Cassandra Ortiz: I Mary Cohoon: it'll Cassandra Ortiz: think a lot Mary Cohoon: make Cassandra Ortiz: of Mary Cohoon: the Cassandra Ortiz: learning Mary Cohoon: costs Cassandra Ortiz: for the user Mary Cohoon: yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: and and I mean the user just wants to get um get a result um quickly, not to spend time in like um giving several orders um Mary Cohoon: Right. Cassandra Ortiz: I dunno. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ortiz: I think I th I would I would think the put the buttons, but if if you have other mm proposals Mary Cohoon: Uh I Cassandra Ortiz: um. Mary Cohoon: think the Jessie Davis: Mm. Mary Cohoon: co costs will also play a big role when we come to know about them. So Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: Mm. Mary Cohoon: well we can probably wait until t we have more knowledge on that. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: Uh i if the if the costs allow, we can have like an L_C_D_ display and uh with um because we do want something fancy and fashionable as well. Cassandra Ortiz: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: So Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: yeah? Cassandra Ortiz: Yep. Mary Cohoon: Cool. Jessie Davis: Sure, we can discuss that maybe after the next one. Darnell Harris: Cool. Jessie Davis: Do Darnell Harris: Do Jessie Davis: you want Darnell Harris: wanna Jessie Davis: to Darnell Harris: give Darnell Harris the little cable thing? Jessie Davis: yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: Uh am I going in the right direction? No. Wait. Darnell Harris: Yeah. Jessie Davis: Oh, I'm Cassandra Ortiz: comes. Jessie Davis: getting hungry. Cassandra Ortiz: Okay, here you are. Darnell Harris: Cool. Darnell Harris: Ah, that's why it won't meet. Okay, cool. Jessie Davis: You set? Darnell Harris: Yep, cool. Okay, functional requirements. Jessie Davis: Uh we need to do the function key thing so that it comes up on Darnell Harris: Alright, Jessie Davis: here. Darnell Harris: yeah. Jessie Davis: Hello. Mary Cohoon: try Jessie Davis: Is Mary Cohoon: to Jessie Davis: it Mary Cohoon: press Jessie Davis: plugged Darnell Harris: It's working. Jessie Davis: in Mary Cohoon: oh, Jessie Davis: prop Mary Cohoon: okay, Jessie Davis: it's working? Okay. Mary Cohoon: yep. Jessie Davis: Excellent. Darnell Harris: Cool, okay. So what I have, wh where I've got my information from is a survey where the usability lab um observed remote control use with um a hundred subjects and then they gave them a questionnaire. Um so it was all about, you, how people feel about the look and feel of the remote control, you know. What's the most annoying things about remote controls and um the possibility of speech recognition and L_C_D_ screens in remote control. Not that they actually gave Darnell Harris any answers on the L_C_D_ screens, so I should have taken that bit out, but anyway. Um okay, so. What they found is that people don't like how current remote controls are, so you know, definitely you should be looking at something quite different. Um seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Uh the other twenty five percent have no fashion sense. Uh eighty percent of users would spend more to get um you know, a nice looking remote control. Um current remote controls, they don't match the user behaviour well, as you'll see on the next slide. Um I dunno what zapping is, but Jessie Davis: It's um switching between channels, sort of randomly going through. Darnell Harris: Oh, right. But you have that little thing that comes up at the bottom and tells you what's on. Um okay, Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons, so that's going back to what, you know, we were saying earlier about, you Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: know, do you need all the buttons on the remote control, Jessie Davis: Mm. Darnell Harris: they just make it look ugly. Okay? Cool. Um so this is my little Jessie Davis: Ooh, Darnell Harris: graph Jessie Davis: that's Darnell Harris: thing. Jessie Davis: a bit difficult to see. Darnell Harris: Mm Jessie Davis: If Darnell Harris: k Jessie Davis: you explain it to us it'll be fine. Darnell Harris: Okay, well, I can send it to all of you. Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: What it is is um it's cones, 'cause I thought they'd be more exciting. Um Jessie Davis: I Darnell Harris: but Jessie Davis: liked the, I liked Darnell Harris: ooh Jessie Davis: the litt ooh Darnell Harris: where's it go? Jessie Davis: come back. Darnell Harris: Back. Oh. Jessie Davis: No. Darnell Harris: Oh yes, cool. Okay, I'm gonna stop playing with the little pointy thing. Mary Cohoon: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: Um okay, so like what it shows is how much things are used relatively and what Jessie Davis: Okay. Darnell Harris: you can clearly see from that is the thing that's used most is the channel selection. What you can't see is volume selection, it's a little bit higher than all the others. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm, that's the next one along, yeah? Darnell Harris: Yeah, so what the graph shows is that, you know, power, channel selection and volume selection are important, and the rest of them, you know, nobody really uses Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: and so that's the the numbers along the top represent their like um their importance, you Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: know, so on a scale of one to ten, how important is that and, you know, channel selection and volume selection are absolutely essential, and the power, well it's not quite so essential, apparently, although I don't understand how it couldn't be, um and everything else, I think, you know, you can forget about having those buttons on the remote control, 'cause they're just not needed, and they're not used. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: Okay. This is the bit that the email messed up for Darnell Harris and that's what I was fiddling about with at the beginning of the thing. Okay, cool. So um okay, so this is what people find annoying about remote controls. Uh that they get lost, that the uh you know, they're not intuitive and that they're bad for repetitive strain injury. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: I think if you're watching enough T_V_ to get repetitive strain injury from um you Jessie Davis: The remote Darnell Harris: know, watching Jessie Davis: control. Darnell Harris: T_V_, then that's the least of your problems, but you know, Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: it's up there. Um that yeah. Okay, so um I mean the the R_S_I_ thing would be that, like when you have the computer keyboards and you keep your wrists up would be Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: something that encourages you want something with an ergonomic t design that encourages good use of the remote control and Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: you know, not straining your wrists watching T_V_. Mary Cohoon: Hmm. Darnell Harris: Yes. Okay, cool. Right, um sorry this is pink because I was copying and pasting the table, and I didn't have time to white it out again. Jessie Davis: That's alright. Darnell Harris: Um okay, but that shows how people whether they would pay more for voice recognition software. So you can see from that that, you know, younger people to the age of thirty five are quite likely to pay quite a lot more f well quite are quite likely to pay more for voice recognition software, whereas as people get older, they're a bit more sceptical about it and they're less willing to to try it. Um so clearly voice recognition is something to think about, but um you know I d I do wonder how well that would work given that a T_V_, you know, tends to be people talking Jessie Davis: Mm. Darnell Harris: and um, you know, how are you going to stop it from just flipping channels whilst watching T_V_. Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: Um okay? Cool. Um okay, so these are my personal preferences. So you have sleek, stylish, sophisticated, you know, so something that's, you know, a bit cool. you know, functional, so it's useful, but minimalist. Um there's a there's an important thing that, you know, people use when, you know, when you're filling up your home, you know, a lot of people fill up their home with bits of crap, basically, you know, and you've got all this stuff, and you're just like, what the hell is that, who is ever gonna use it? You know, so things should either be functional or beautiful or preferably both, so I think we need to aim Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: for both. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: Um okay, then a long battery life, like you were talking about earlier and um, you know, I was thinking that solar power would be quite cool because, you know, your remote control just sits there, and you could just sit it in the sunshine and save the environment a bit. Um and then like a locator, so you know, kind of like you have for a mobile phone or not Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: a mobile phone Mary Cohoon: Some kind Jessie Davis: Keys Mary Cohoon: of a ring, Jessie Davis: and things Mary Cohoon: some Jessie Davis: like Darnell Harris: Yeah, Jessie Davis: that, Darnell Harris: that's it, you know. Jessie Davis: Whistle and it Darnell Harris: I know, it's Jessie Davis: screams Darnell Harris: weird. Jessie Davis: at you, Darnell Harris: My flatmate Jessie Davis: yeah. Darnell Harris: and I were talking about this on the way into uni this morning and I was like I need to get one for everything. So yeah, so maybe something where you clap and then it beeps, something a kind of sound that you don't often hear on the T_V_, Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: you know, 'cause you don't want your remote control beeping every five minutes, 'cause you you'd then deliberately lose it by throwing it out the window or something. So okay? Mary Cohoon: Hmm. Darnell Harris: Cool. That's Darnell Harris. Jessie Davis: That's you, Mary Cohoon: Okay, Jessie Davis: excellent. Cassandra Ortiz: Um that's Mary Cohoon: that's great, Cassandra Ortiz: very good, Mary Cohoon: thanks. Cassandra Ortiz: very interesting. Jessie Davis: Um. I'm just gonna tick yes. So, we've got about ten, fifteen minutes to Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: discuss Mary Cohoon: I think one of the very interesting things that came up in um uh Ka Kate Darnell Harris: Cat's. Mary Cohoon: Cat Cat's Darnell Harris: Ca. Mary Cohoon: uh presentation was um uh this this issue of uh uh like voice recognition being more popular with uh younger people. So if we need to have a target group um then uh I think as far as the m motto of our company is concerned, if we want to have something sleek and uh you know, good looking uh we are better off targeting a younger audience then um you know, people who are comparatively elderly. Um. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: Yeah, I mean that's the thing is that it didn't say in the survey, you know, Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: whether, you know, these are the people that will pay more for a more stylish remote control, but I'm assuming, you know, yes. Mary Cohoon: Right. Bu Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: but Cassandra Ortiz: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: but the survey did say that f things like voice recognition are more popular with them, so if you want to put in something stylish, then uh Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: th it'll certainly be more popular with this i ye with the younger people as compared to older Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: people, yeah. Jessie Davis: Then again I guess the th where it was most popular was the fifteen to twenty five bracket Mary Cohoon: Right, Jessie Davis: and Mary Cohoon: and Jessie Davis: the I don't know how often they're buying televisions. Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: Well, Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: that's when you go to uni, isn't it? So, Jessie Davis: Yeah, Darnell Harris: you Jessie Davis: but you don't Darnell Harris: know Jessie Davis: have much money, Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: generally. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Jessie Davis: I would've Cassandra Ortiz: you share Jessie Davis: thought it's Cassandra Ortiz: a television or something that yeah. Jessie Davis: it's more that twenty five to thirty five, when people are really moving out and they've got their first job and they want their nice toys and Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: But uh still, if if you can go back to that slide and Jessie Davis: O Mary Cohoon: uh, Jessie Davis: oh Mary Cohoon: how Jessie Davis: it's Darnell Harris: Oh, I've Jessie Davis: on Mary Cohoon: popular Jessie Davis: sorry, Darnell Harris: unplugged Mary Cohoon: was Jessie Davis: we unplugged Mary Cohoon: it? Darnell Harris: it. Do you want Mary Cohoon: Oh, Jessie Davis: it. Mary Cohoon: oh, Darnell Harris: Darnell Harris to Mary Cohoon: okay. Jessie Davis: Here, let Darnell Harris Mary Cohoon: That's alright, if you can just look it up on your computer, Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: wh uh um people between twenty five to thirty five, uh how popular Darnell Harris: Seventy Mary Cohoon: was Darnell Harris: six Cassandra Ortiz: It was Darnell Harris: point Cassandra Ortiz: seventy Mary Cohoon: so it was Darnell Harris: three Mary Cohoon: sti Cassandra Ortiz: something, Darnell Harris: percent. Mary Cohoon: still Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Mary Cohoon: still quite popular Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Mary Cohoon: amongst them. Darnell Harris: Yeah. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: So even they are seventy six percent, is that high Darnell Harris: Yeah, Mary Cohoon: amount? Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: I kn I mean I know what you're saying about the fifteen to twenty five year olds, but I mean it has been proven that that people of that age group have a higher disposable income because they don't have like I mean, you know, Jessie Davis: Yeah, Darnell Harris: if Jessie Davis: they've Darnell Harris: you're at Jessie Davis: got Darnell Harris: university, Jessie Davis: no commitments Darnell Harris: you're paying Jessie Davis: and Darnell Harris: your rent, but you don't have a mortgage, you don't have a life insurance policy, Mary Cohoon: Alright. Jessie Davis: usually Darnell Harris: you don't Jessie Davis: not a car and all Darnell Harris: normally Jessie Davis: of those Darnell Harris: have Jessie Davis: things. Darnell Harris: a car, yeah, so. Jessie Davis: Kids. Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Darnell Harris: You're Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: still Mary Cohoon: So you're Darnell Harris: learning Mary Cohoon: more Darnell Harris: to drive Mary Cohoon: likely to Darnell Harris: actually, Mary Cohoon: b Darnell Harris: so that just costs more than a car, Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Darnell Harris: but yeah. Um so I mean like it is an age group to target, really, Jessie Davis: Yeah, Darnell Harris: I think. Jessie Davis: and if we're if we're talking twenty five Euros as a price, that's not unaffordable, even for Darnell Harris: No, I mean that's Jessie Davis: young Darnell Harris: what, Jessie Davis: people. Darnell Harris: that's like fifteen Pounds? Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: You know, I Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah this this Darnell Harris: think Cassandra Ortiz: is not unaffordable, but the problem is whether people need it, whether they do have a T_V_ to Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: use its full Darnell Harris: Yeah, Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Darnell Harris: I d I don't know many people without a T_V_. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: But Darnell Harris: We Jessie Davis: do Darnell Harris: didn't Jessie Davis: they Darnell Harris: have a T_V_ last year, and everyone thought we were off our heads, you Jessie Davis: But Darnell Harris: know. Jessie Davis: the T_V_s are often kind of Cassandra Ortiz: Common, Jessie Davis: someone's Cassandra Ortiz: the students Jessie Davis: old Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: T_V_ Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Jessie Davis: that's Cassandra Ortiz: The s Jessie Davis: blah Cassandra Ortiz: the Jessie Davis: blah Cassandra Ortiz: stu Jessie Davis: and Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, and Jessie Davis: be a bit Cassandra Ortiz: the Jessie Davis: strange Cassandra Ortiz: remote control Jessie Davis: to have a Cassandra Ortiz: might Jessie Davis: fancy Cassandra Ortiz: not yeah, Jessie Davis: rome remote. Cassandra Ortiz: it might Mary Cohoon: Mm. Cassandra Ortiz: not even function with the old T_V_. Darnell Harris: Yeah, I d Jessie Davis: Mm. Darnell Harris: well we've we've Mary Cohoon: Bu Darnell Harris: got quite Mary Cohoon: but even Darnell Harris: a d decent Mary Cohoon: even in Darnell Harris: T_V_. Mary Cohoon: the case of twenty five to thirty five it's Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Mary Cohoon: quite Cassandra Ortiz: we're still Mary Cohoon: popular, Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Mary Cohoon: right? So mm uh are Cassandra Ortiz: Or Darnell Harris: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: w maybe Mary Cohoon: are Cassandra Ortiz: we can Mary Cohoon: are Cassandra Ortiz: just kind of uh uh Darnell Harris: I think I think the fact that, you know, ninety one point two percent of fifteen to twenty five year olds are saying yes, I would pay more for a voice recognition Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: remote control, does say quite a lot really. You know, so I Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: mean that and the disposable income and I don't think it's something to ignore, you know. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, but at the same time I think maybe we can we can just decide to to have both of these groups as our Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: target, because actually I mean they're all still Darnell Harris: Is Cassandra Ortiz: re young Darnell Harris: not a massive Cassandra Ortiz: people. Darnell Harris: difference, Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Darnell Harris: you know. Jessie Davis: Yeah, Darnell Harris: No, Jessie Davis: if we Darnell Harris: do Jessie Davis: ta if Darnell Harris: totally. Jessie Davis: we take Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: fifteen to thirty five, but that Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: then does imply that we should try and incorporate voice recognition. Is that gonna Mary Cohoon: Um Jessie Davis: have a an implication Mary Cohoon: I Jessie Davis: for the Mary Cohoon: was having a a Jessie Davis: technical Mary Cohoon: general Jessie Davis: specs? Mary Cohoon: outlook on um m most like sophisticated features, but voice recognition itself I'm not very sure about, because one of the p uh things that Cat pointed out was uh uh how do we go about implementing it? Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: Uh and Darnell Harris: You do Mary Cohoon: uh Darnell Harris: have it in your mobile phone though, don't you? Because you have like I mean every Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: mobile phone now has like call this person and Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Darnell Harris: it calls them. Mary Cohoon: But how frequently Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: do we use it anyway and um Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: uh h ho how good is it, you know uh voice recognition softwares are still Darnell Harris: I don't know. Mary Cohoon: quite Jessie Davis: Yeah. With Mary Cohoon: uh Jessie Davis: um Cassandra Ortiz: An Jessie Davis: but with a T_V_ remote it's gonna be quite limited if we're t saying the main things people want to do is on Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Jessie Davis: off channel Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: five, Darnell Harris: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: louder, Darnell Harris: S Jessie Davis: tha Darnell Harris: so Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: that should be relatively simple. Mary Cohoon: Okay. Darnell Harris: y you'd Mary Cohoon: O Darnell Harris: maybe need a code word. Do you know what I mean? Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: Mm. Darnell Harris: So like when you say change, except that's being said quite a lot on T_V_, so maybe like, you know, remote. I mean how often do people say remote on T_V_? Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Darnell Harris: Although I only watch Charmed, so really I wouldn't know but like so you'd just say remote five, you Mary Cohoon: Right. Darnell Harris: know, remote ten, Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: remote one two nine. Mary Cohoon: Okay, so it seems Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: like a feasible thing to implement Jessie Davis: Yeah, but Mary Cohoon: uh Jessie Davis: maybe if you Mary Cohoon: for Jessie Davis: wanna look Mary Cohoon: for Jessie Davis: into Mary Cohoon: a limited Jessie Davis: that just to just Mary Cohoon: yeah. Jessie Davis: to check. Um, so if we go for the the fifteen to thirty five age group Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah but Jessie Davis: and Cassandra Ortiz: uh Jessie Davis: then of course Cassandra Ortiz: um Jessie Davis: we're going to get th anyone who's older than thirty five who wants to look young and hip and trendy Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Jessie Davis: and Cassandra Ortiz: yeah Jessie Davis: has Cassandra Ortiz: sure, Jessie Davis: the money, then they'll Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, yeah. Jessie Davis: they'll still go for the same Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: advertising. Darnell Harris: I don't think there's a lot of uh voice recognition remote Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Darnell Harris: controls. Cassandra Ortiz: w well now the v the voice recognition if if it works wonderfully w we could possibly do away with all buttons, but I think this is not really the right moment yet, because people are just so used to buttons and Jessie Davis: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: um, yeah it's it's kind Jessie Davis: I think Cassandra Ortiz: of Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: we need Cassandra Ortiz: safer, Jessie Davis: both. Cassandra Ortiz: so Mary Cohoon: W Cassandra Ortiz: we we need both, Mary Cohoon: What Cassandra Ortiz: so the voice Mary Cohoon: uh Cassandra Ortiz: recognition would be just an extra, it wouldn't really Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: reduce the size of the remote. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: Mm. Mary Cohoon: What wh uh what I was thinking is that there is this uh separation between what the channels are on T_V_ and how they are numbered on the remote control. If we can do with away with that, our product can be really popular uh in the sense that uh a person can say, I want to watch uh I_T_V_ one instead of saying that I want to go onto Jessie Davis: Uh-huh. Mary Cohoon: channel number forty five. Darnell Harris: Yeah, Jessie Davis: Uh-huh. Mary Cohoon: Yeah, Darnell Harris: that Mary Cohoon: so Darnell Harris: would be another Mary Cohoon: if Darnell Harris: way Mary Cohoon: uh if Darnell Harris: to do it. Mary Cohoon: something like that can be incorporated, Jessie Davis: So that if that was in the the Mary Cohoon: some Jessie Davis: voice Mary Cohoon: kind of Jessie Davis: recognition, that Darnell Harris: Yeah, Jessie Davis: would be Darnell Harris: but Jessie Davis: great. Darnell Harris: then the code word would be even more important, because I mean Sky Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: advertise on every channel, don't Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: Mm-hmm. Darnell Harris: they, you know, so then it would be you'd be watching Charmed, and then the Sky advert would come on and it would change to Sky. Jessie Davis: Watch Sky and Darnell Harris: Yeah, Mary Cohoon: Alright. Jessie Davis: yeah. Darnell Harris: yeah, and Mary Cohoon: Yeah, Darnell Harris: that Mary Cohoon: that's Darnell Harris: would be really annoying. Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. But that's Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah Jessie Davis: definitely Cassandra Ortiz: but Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: a Cassandra Ortiz: m but on the other Jessie Davis: possibility. Cassandra Ortiz: hand, remote control isn't as close to you you probably might just just uh speak into it and Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: and the T_V_ would be already further away, so it might not Darnell Harris: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: pick up the other things coming Darnell Harris: Do Cassandra Ortiz: from Darnell Harris: you not Cassandra Ortiz: there. Darnell Harris: think that defeats the object of having voice recognition on a remote control though? Jessie Davis: So that you can yell at it, Darnell Harris: Yeah, you know, so Jessie Davis: yeah. Darnell Harris: you have to have the remote control. It's more like if you lost it and it's down the sofa sometime, you can yell at it and it'll just change it, you can look for it later, Jessie Davis: Yeah. Darnell Harris: yeah. Jessie Davis: Alright. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, but then the remote control I think I mean um the idea is kind of it's it's not that it's sitting there on on top of the television, because then you could already yell at the television and you wouldn't you you wouldn't need the remote control, so the remote control is still something you keep n Darnell Harris: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: near yourself. Darnell Harris: yeah, I suppose nearer to you but a b like if you have surround sound then Mary Cohoon: Mm Jessie Davis: Mm. Mary Cohoon: yeah and it might become very difficult from a distance for the television to understand what you're saying because of the noise Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah, Mary Cohoon: factor Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Mary Cohoon: for the remote control being cl Cassandra Ortiz: No, but Mary Cohoon: I Cassandra Ortiz: I I Mary Cohoon: mean Cassandra Ortiz: I Mary Cohoon: it'll Cassandra Ortiz: was Mary Cohoon: it'll Cassandra Ortiz: just defending the Mary Cohoon: mm. Cassandra Ortiz: the Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: fact why why we want to keep the remote control close to us, a Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: and Jessie Davis: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: uh not to yell at it from the distance. Mary Cohoon: Mm. Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: So uh wh another thing uh that can be used is that uh there can be a beeper button on the T_V_, so you can go and press that button and Jessie Davis: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: um and the remote control, wherever it is, it'll beep, so Jessie Davis: That's Mary Cohoon: we we can probably Cassandra Ortiz: Okay. Mary Cohoon: come to Jessie Davis: but Mary Cohoon: know Darnell Harris: Yeah. Jessie Davis: then Mary Cohoon: where Jessie Davis: if Mary Cohoon: it Jessie Davis: you're Mary Cohoon: is. Jessie Davis: buying the remote separately, but y you could have Cassandra Ortiz: Oh Jessie Davis: something, Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, yeah. Jessie Davis: but i if it was something that you could like stick onto the T_V_ or something, Mary Cohoon: Right, yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: Okay, Jessie Davis: some Mary Cohoon: yeah, Jessie Davis: like a Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: two p Mary Cohoon: yeah. Jessie Davis: if you bought Cassandra Ortiz: mm-hmm. Jessie Davis: it in a two part pack, so one part attaches Darnell Harris: Yeah, Jessie Davis: to Darnell Harris: 'cause Jessie Davis: the T_V_. Darnell Harris: it's it's quite important that you don't lose the the bit Jessie Davis: The Darnell Harris: to Jessie Davis: l Darnell Harris: locate the remote control. Jessie Davis: Well Mary Cohoon: Alright, Jessie Davis: that's right, Mary Cohoon: yeah. Jessie Davis: but it solves the problem of having different noises. Darnell Harris: Yeah, definitely, yeah. Jessie Davis: Yeah. Okay, I think we're gonna have to wrap this up um. But if we go away with that that kind of general um specification in mind that we're looking at fifteen to thirty five year olds, we want it to look simple, but still have the buttons so it's easy to use, but only those key Cassandra Ortiz: The Jessie Davis: buttons, Cassandra Ortiz: major ones, Jessie Davis: the major Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Jessie Davis: buttons and then one sort of menu one, and then voice recognition included as an option Cassandra Ortiz: Mm-hmm. Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: um but that obviously needs a little bit more working out as to whether it's really feasible Mary Cohoon: Okay. Jessie Davis: and some of those problems we were mentioning um. What we have to do now is to go back to our little places, complete our questionnaire and some sort of summarisation, which y you'll get immediately by email. Send Darnell Harris your presentations so that I can use them to make the minutes, and then we've got a lunch break Cassandra Ortiz: Mm-hmm. Jessie Davis: and after lunch we go back to our own little stations and have thirty minutes more work. Um I'll put the minutes in that project documents folder, but I'll send you an email when I do it, so Mary Cohoon: So Jessie Davis: that you know. Mary Cohoon: where Jessie Davis: It should Mary Cohoon: exactly Jessie Davis: be on your desktop, Mary Cohoon: is this i Jessie Davis: so on the Mary Cohoon: Ah, okay. Jessie Davis: yeah. Mary Cohoon: Yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: So I'll put it I'll put them there as soon as I've written Cassandra Ortiz: Did you Jessie Davis: them. Cassandra Ortiz: find it? It's Mary Cohoon: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: just Mary Cohoon: yeah Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Mary Cohoon: in that Cassandra Ortiz: yeah. Mary Cohoon: one, right yeah. Jessie Davis: Yeah, and email them round. Darnell Harris: Oh, so y you want our um PowerPoint presentations in there, Jessie Davis: Yeah, Darnell Harris: hey? Jessie Davis: that would be great. Darnell Harris: Okay. Cassandra Ortiz: Oh so so we'll just put Jessie Davis: Oh Cassandra Ortiz: them Jessie Davis: yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: i there, Jessie Davis: put them Cassandra Ortiz: we Jessie Davis: in Cassandra Ortiz: we Jessie Davis: there. Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, Jessie Davis: Yeah, Cassandra Ortiz: w Darnell Harris: There Cassandra Ortiz: we Darnell Harris: you go. Cassandra Ortiz: won't Jessie Davis: then you don't Cassandra Ortiz: even Jessie Davis: have to Cassandra Ortiz: okay. Jessie Davis: email them. Darnell Harris: But is everyone's called functional requirements? Jessie Davis: No, Mary Cohoon: No. Jessie Davis: they're all called something slightly different. Technical requirements Darnell Harris: Okay, Jessie Davis: and something something, Darnell Harris: so that's good. Jessie Davis: yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Darnell Harris: That's Jessie Davis: So, Darnell Harris: Darnell Harris done. Jessie Davis: if you put them in there, we'll all be able to see them and refer to them if we need to. Darnell Harris: Okay, cool. Jessie Davis: Um as to where we're going from here, you're going to look at the components concept. Mary Cohoon: Right. Jessie Davis: Yeah? Whatever that means. Cassandra Ortiz: Yeah. Jessie Davis: Yeah. Mary Cohoon: I guess I'll find out. Jessie Davis: You'll be looking you'll be looking at the user interface Cassandra Ortiz: Uh something Jessie Davis: concept, Cassandra Ortiz: conceptual, yeah. Jessie Davis: on something conceptual and you're watching trends to see how we go and surely voice recognition'll fall off the map or something that um we'll Mary Cohoon: Wha Jessie Davis: keep keep Mary Cohoon: what Jessie Davis: our Mary Cohoon: was Jessie Davis: options Mary Cohoon: it again Jessie Davis: op hmm? Mary Cohoon: that I was supposed to look into? Con Jessie Davis: Components, Mary Cohoon: components, oh. Cassandra Ortiz: Hmm. Sorry, but Jessie Davis: yeah. Cassandra Ortiz: um the next meeting um are we going to have it um right after lunch or shall Jessie Davis: No, Cassandra Ortiz: we prepare Jessie Davis: we have Cassandra Ortiz: our Jessie Davis: we have after lunch we have thirty minutes Cassandra Ortiz: To Jessie Davis: to Cassandra Ortiz: prepare, Jessie Davis: ourselves Cassandra Ortiz: okay, Jessie Davis: to prepare, Cassandra Ortiz: yeah, that's Jessie Davis: so Cassandra Ortiz: good. Jessie Davis: that's fine, w before lunch we just have to complete the questionnaire and some sort of summary. Cassandra Ortiz: Okay. Jessie Davis: Okay? Right Cassandra Ortiz: Cool. Jessie Davis: on time. Okay, so you can I guess we'll see you for lunch in Cassandra Ortiz: Okay, Jessie Davis: a sec? Cassandra Ortiz: see you.	Jessie Davis opens the meeting by stating that they will address functional design and then going over the agenda. Mary Cohoon gives his presentation, explaining how remote controls function and giving personal preference to a clear, simple design that upgrades the technology as well as incorporates the latest features in chip design. The interface specialist gives her presentation next, addressing the main purpose of a remote control. She pinpoints the main functions of on/off, channel-switching, numbers for choosing particular channels, and volume; and also suggests adding a menu button to change settings such as brightness on the screen. She gives preference to a remote that is small, easy to use, and follows some conventions. The group briefly discusses the possibility of using an LCD screen if cost allows it, since it is fancy and fashionable. Darnell Harris presents, giving statistical information from a survey of 100 subjects. She prefers a remote that is sleek, stylish, sophisticated, cool, beautiful, functional, solar-powered, has long battery life, and has a locator. They discuss the target group, deciding it should be 15-35 year olds. After they talk about features they might include, Jessie Davis closes the meeting by allocating tasks.	4	amisum	train
Kimberly Sieja: Mm-hmm? Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: Ooh. Jessica Goble: So we're 'kay? On the or No. I dunno where to put it 'cause the Okay. Could you s take it off? Vicki Mckenney: Is that alright? or Okay. Jessica Goble: Okay. Vicki Mckenney: Keeps coming off. 'S fiddly. Kimberly Sieja: Hmm. Vicki Mckenney: Right. Kimberly Sieja: How we sta wa how do we start Does anybody know? Vicki Mckenney: Oh, another one. Kimberly Sieja: So that's this Oh okay, right. Jessica Goble: Are we free to take notes uh Okay. Kimberly Sieja: Uh. Kimberly Sieja: Hmm. Okay, just hang on a second everybody. I haven't actually looked at this yet. Vicki Mckenney: Ah. Kimberly Sieja: um Vicki Mckenney: Very nice. Kimberly Sieja: I haven't looked at it, but let's just start it off and we'll see what happens. If you're all ready. Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: So is the agenda? Opening, acquaintance, tool training and project plan then closing. Project aim is a new remote control. It's original, uh trendy and it's user-friendly. Vicki Mckenney: 'Kay. Kimberly Sieja: Project method, functional design, individual work, another meeting, conceptual design, individual work, and a meeting of details design, individual work and a meeting. Tool training. Try out the whiteboard, every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum up their favourite characteristics of that animal. Vicki Mckenney: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: Um. Uh Miss Industrial Designer, would you like to Jessica Goble: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: go first? Jessica Goble: So are we supposed to bring the little things for the Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, why don't you just c, I think just clip on clip do you have a belt? Vicki Mckenney: Clip. Jessica Goble: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: Or put 'em in your pocket, Jessica Goble: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: yeah. Jessica Goble: okay. So my favourite animal Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, what's your favourite animal? Jessica Goble: 'Kay um Vicki Mckenney: Ah. Kimberly Sieja: Is it rude? Vicki Mckenney: It's an elephant. Kimberly Sieja: That's a very good elephant. Doris Houston: The back end of an elephant. Vicki Mckenney: Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna be able to draw that well. Kimberly Sieja: 'Kay, and you want to write up on there, it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal. Jessica Goble: Um okay, it's big, it's got a great memory. Vicki Mckenney: Does it? Oh. Jessica Goble: Supposed to have a great memory, Kimberly Sieja: Mm. Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Jessica Goble: And uh dunno know why but looks like nice to Vicki Mckenney. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Jessica Goble: Nice animal. Kimberly Sieja: Wonderful, well done. Do you want to use the wipe the m the Jessica Goble: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: wiper and wipe it off? And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna Doris Houston: Aesthetic Kimberly Sieja: go next? Doris Houston: yep, Vicki Mckenney: I have no Doris Houston: sure. Vicki Mckenney: idea what my favourite animal is. Doris Houston: 'Kay, my favourite animal, uh let's see. Vicki Mckenney: Oh. It's Doris Houston: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before. It's a liger, Kimberly Sieja: No. Vicki Mckenney: A what? Doris Houston: a combination of a lion and tiger. Vicki Mckenney: Alright. Doris Houston: Have Vicki Mckenney: How. Doris Houston: you not seen Napoleon Dynamite? Kimberly Sieja: No. Jessica Goble: No. Vicki Mckenney: No. Doris Houston: Oh it's a hilarious movie. You have to see it. And and it's best characteristic is it's pretty much the awesomest animal. But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it. Kimberly Sieja: Okay, well done. Vicki Mckenney: Great. Vicki Mckenney? Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Miss mar Miss Marketing? Vicki Mckenney: Okay. quite sure how this is gonna work. Cool. Uh well I'll try my best to draw. Vicki Mckenney: Can I just draw the face? Kimberly Sieja: Um yeah, I think you can just draw the face, but then you'll have to describe in writing how the rest of it looks. Vicki Mckenney: Ooh. It's a cat. Kimberly Sieja: That's a very pr pretty cat. Vicki Mckenney: Which also has what? A big fat body and big and a long tail. Kimberly Sieja: Okay, do y do you wanna do some write you wanna just write some words about it? Vicki Mckenney: Why? Because um cuddly. And usually cats are very friendly. Usually. And they're healing as well. They heal. And they can feel when a human's Kimberly Sieja: Wow, Vicki Mckenney: got problems so Kimberly Sieja: so they're kinda spiritual. Vicki Mckenney: So, that's why I like cats. Kimberly Sieja: Well done. Vicki Mckenney: There we are, that's Vicki Mckenney. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: Um, I don't actually have a favourite animal, but for the for th for this meeting I'll s draw a little Vicki Mckenney: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Sieja: Uh. I honestly can't draw for toffee. Uh. Jessica Goble: Really? Oh Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Jessica Goble: that's a Kimberly Sieja: no Doris Houston: A prairie dog? Kimberly Sieja: no uh Doris Houston: Oh a squirrel? Kimberly Sieja: That's exactly what it is. Uh not a very good one Jessica Goble: Not bad I would say. Doris Houston: Yeah, that's pretty good. Kimberly Sieja: Okay, well, you got it's a s It's a squirrel, and I like them, because they're cute and stupid. Jessica Goble: Very good. Vicki Mckenney: Ah. Doris Houston: Alright. Kimberly Sieja: Right. Okay, so, I guess that was the test to see if this equipment is all working. Mm. Let's move on to the next page. Okay, project finance, selling price twenty five Euros, profit aim fifty million Euros. Vicki Mckenney: Market range internationally sold. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Production cost, ah right it's gotta be Vicki Mckenney: Ah right Kimberly Sieja: can't Vicki Mckenney: okay. Kimberly Sieja: cost any more than twelve fifty to make. experience with with remote control, so talk about who who's used what. Any ideas? Stuff like that. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. At quarter to twelve. Doris Houston: So I think before we close uh, we are expected I mean the last slide wanted us to maybe discuss longer what our what our ideas where. I mean if you wanna go back to the last slide. Uh Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Doris Houston: S Yeah, I think we're I mean before we close the meeting, we're supposed to come up with some ideas for Kimberly Sieja: Oh k so we're actually supposed to be doing this discussion like right now are we Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: or Doris Houston: Yeah. Jessica Goble: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: oh okay. Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: I thought this was just t giving us instructions for the re to do next, Doris Houston: Yeah, Kimberly Sieja: but Doris Houston: I think this is just the preliminary, get some rough ideas for what our experiences with remote controls have been and and what we would roughly what we would incorporate into a new one maybe. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Right, who's got experiences with remote controls then? Pretty much everybody. Jessica Goble: Yeah. Doris Houston: Yeah, I think we've all got Vicki Mckenney: Uh. Kimberly Sieja: Um. Jessica Goble: Is this a T_V_ one we are supposed to make? Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Yeah it's a T_V_ remote control. Jessica Goble: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: 'Kay Vicki Mckenney: Well. Kimberly Sieja: um. Jessica Goble: T Vicki Mckenney: A new remote control for T_V_. What would I like? Kimberly Sieja: W what Vicki Mckenney: Um. Kimberly Sieja: You want it big do you want it small. Vicki Mckenney: Medium. Kimberly Sieja: Are we are we going for like like telephones are going little teeny tiny things or we are going for something that's Doris Houston: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: that's big and Doris Houston: Yeah it seems like there's like there's sort of a tension between two ideas, I mean, you want you want one remote that maybe can work uh all all of the functions of T_V_ and if you have whatever associated with T_V_ the D_V_D_ player, or Kimberly Sieja: Video Doris Houston: something like that, Kimberly Sieja: and ts hi-fi Doris Houston: but like at Kimberly Sieja: and Doris Houston: the Kimberly Sieja: stuff. Doris Houston: same time you don't wanna really busy remote with a thousand buttons on it or something. Kimberly Sieja: Maybe you Doris Houston: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: yeah now th that's the other thing is it's gotta be cheap. Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: 'Cause I I I mean I was thinking something that's got different like maybe a a an L_C_D_ display on it that's got different pages for different devices, Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: but that would p that would probably be quite expensive. Jessica Goble: But how do we know how much uh, I mean, how much do we have per how Vicki Mckenney: Twelve Jessica Goble: much? Vicki Mckenney: fifty. Jessica Goble: Twelve Doris Houston: It Jessica Goble: fifty. Doris Houston: g can't be more Vicki Mckenney: Each. Doris Houston: than twelve fifty per unit. Kimberly Sieja: Per unit, yeah. Doris Houston: Cost. Jessica Goble: So do we have to be realistic within the budget or Kimberly Sieja: Well Jessica Goble: Close Kimberly Sieja: at the Vicki Mckenney: Guess Kimberly Sieja: moment Jessica Goble: pr I don't Kimberly Sieja: we could, Jessica Goble: know Kimberly Sieja: wa Jessica Goble: how Kimberly Sieja: I Jessica Goble: much Kimberly Sieja: mean we Jessica Goble: it Kimberly Sieja: 'cause Jessica Goble: would Kimberly Sieja: we Jessica Goble: cost. Kimberly Sieja: this Jessica Goble: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: is what we th what we're doing at the moment is just saying what what we'd like, and then after we after we've found out what we can like, some different ideas, we can then go and do the research to find out if these any of these ideas are feasible Jessica Goble: Right. Kimberly Sieja: or not. So would be nice to have something that that controls lots of different things. Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: Um. Vicki Mckenney: Couldn't we have like one that comes out? Like so you have one in like Jessica Goble: Yeah. Vicki Mckenney: mm it doesn't have to be really thick. I mean remote controls can be thin bits. And then you have one for your D_V_D_ and you sort of slide it out, and then you have another one, you slide it out. Kimberly Sieja: 'Kay. Vicki Mckenney: have slides. And then it all comes compact Kimberly Sieja: Okay, that's. Vicki Mckenney: into one. So it's not you actually just putting three or four different remotes together but making them thinner, and um into one basically. Kimberly Sieja: Th that's an idea. Doris Houston: Yeah. Vicki Mckenney: So you just flip them out. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Jessica Goble: Um have uh one very complicated one on one side with all the D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ access and stuff, and then on the other side o one uh a remote control that would be very very simple with just the channel, program plus and minus, and the just the mute button, for example. I can real keep it really really simple on one side and the other side be very complicated. Kimberly Sieja: One side for kids, one side for adults. Jessica Goble: Yeah. Doris Houston: I'm not sure Jessica Goble: Or grandma Doris Houston: if that's like Jessica Goble: as well, you know it's like what is Doris Houston: I'm Jessica Goble: the Doris Houston: not Jessica Goble: mute Doris Houston: sure if Jessica Goble: button. Doris Houston: it's a good idea to have a two sided remote though, 'cause it would be very hard to use in the way that you Jessica Goble: No, but you Doris Houston: mani Jessica Goble: would slide Doris Houston: manipulate Jessica Goble: it Doris Houston: it. Jessica Goble: into uh someth like something on the back would hold like you wouldn't Doris Houston: Oh. Jessica Goble: be able to press the buttons, Doris Houston: Oh okay. Kimberly Sieja: Like Jessica Goble: but Kimberly Sieja: it or Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: something like a flip telephone, something like that maybe. Doris Houston: Okay. Vicki Mckenney: That would be cool. I was thinking Kimberly Sieja: F flip Vicki Mckenney: that Kimberly Sieja: it open Vicki Mckenney: like a Kimberly Sieja: and you've Vicki Mckenney: flip. Kimberly Sieja: got all the buttons, or you flip it closed and you've just got the basic buttons on the outside maybe. Doris Houston: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Sieja: Um, oh we've got five minutes left. Jessica Goble: Start breaking up. Vicki Mckenney: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: But okay. Vicki Mckenney: Um. Kimberly Sieja: Well we've got a k we've got a few ideas there. Doris Houston: Yeah, we should uh I guess by the end of this meeting we should have at least a a rough conception you know stage one was technical functions design, what effect the apparatus should have. Okay. Um so I mean we still have time in our next meeting to come up with the actual concept for the user interface, but the the functions that we're sure that we want are that it can control the T_V_, but also devices connected to the to the T_V_, I mean, Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Doris Houston: be able to operate D_V_D_ players, things like that. Kimberly Sieja: I have got I think we should also have a back-up plan of I 'cause I I I just think that it might be expensive to make something that I mean we don't, we haven't been told it has to be something that will control everything. Doris Houston: Yeah. Jessica Goble: Yeah. Doris Houston: Okay. Right. Kimberly Sieja: What do you reckon? Doris Houston: Yeah, I mean. Kimberly Sieja: See 'cause, I'm just thinking bearing in mind th we've gotta we have to have something that's cheap to make. Doris Houston: Yeah, that's true, maybe we should just concentrate on having a a good T_V_ remote, and have it be um Kimberly Sieja: I think we'll be able to come up with ideas and stuff a lot quicker. Doris Houston: have it be like ergonomic Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Doris Houston: so it's comfortable to use, uh simple to use, and looks decent Kimberly Sieja: May Doris Houston: and Kimberly Sieja: w you Vicki Mckenney: But what'll Kimberly Sieja: know, maybe Vicki Mckenney: make Kimberly Sieja: even Vicki Mckenney: it what'll make it interesting for people to buy though? Kimberly Sieja: Or Vicki Mckenney: I mean Kimberly Sieja: maybe Vicki Mckenney: if it's Kimberly Sieja: even Vicki Mckenney: if Kimberly Sieja: so Vicki Mckenney: it's Kimberly Sieja: something Vicki Mckenney: just like Kimberly Sieja: that's for disabled people or so people that uh b don't see very well or big buttons for touchy buttons for Doris Houston: Sorta find a niche for our remote, like market it to a certain Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Doris Houston: kind Jessica Goble: Yeah. Doris Houston: of p kind of people, certain Kimberly Sieja: Or just Doris Houston: certain demographic Kimberly Sieja: one that looks really fucking cool. Vicki Mckenney: Mm-hmm. Doris Houston: Yeah, no Jessica Goble: Could Doris Houston: I think Jessica Goble: be Doris Houston: you're Jessica Goble: really Doris Houston: right. Jessica Goble: light or, I dunno, something special. Doris Houston: Yeah, rathe rather than focus on Kimberly Sieja: Otherwise Doris Houston: Y Kimberly Sieja: we'll be we'll be here all day talking about do this let's do Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: that n I think we sh I think Jessica Goble: Yeah, Kimberly Sieja: we Jessica Goble: 'cause Kimberly Sieja: should Jessica Goble: at the end of the day if it says just T_V_ remote, doesn't say com combination Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Jessica Goble: with all all the r Kimberly Sieja: I mean obviously everyone we're uh you know uh sounds like we're all a bit sort of gadget heads and we like things that do everything at once, but you know, that's Doris Houston: Remotes spinning out from other remotes and Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Doris Houston: having little nested remotes inside. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I mean I'd like one that makes tea as well, but that's not gonna happen. Vicki Mckenney: I think a flip up thing, 'cause you always have this problem of like if it's on this well I did anyway, like we had five or six remotes and they would be lying on the c on the coach, and you'd come and sit down and ooh, the telephone's the television switched on or something. So maybe something that like does have a lid or closes, so you don't accidentally press a button or Kimberly Sieja: Okay, like Vicki Mckenney: record Kimberly Sieja: a lock Vicki Mckenney: button Kimberly Sieja: f like Vicki Mckenney: for something. Kimberly Sieja: a lock functs function on it like you have on your telephones, Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: yeah. Vicki Mckenney: But make it like really snazzy and cool people will want it. So make it Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, it's gotta be sellable. Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Doris Houston: Yeah, that's true what you were saying, I mean it doesn't have to have a flip function, it can just have a lock function, so Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Doris Houston: that it's Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Jessica Goble: Mm. Doris Houston: not uh not usable when you don't want it to be usable. Vicki Mckenney: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Vicki Mckenney: And even for kids as well. It's um it's safer for them, I guess. Like they don't flick onto channels and all that sl flick onto. Kimberly Sieja: No porn channel for children. Jessica Goble: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: Okay. Um alright, so we've got some ideas, we've got um Doris Houston: I guess that's Kimberly Sieja: Let's move on. Doris Houston: good good for now. Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: Oops, let's close that. Next meeting, uh Vicki Mckenney: W Kimberly Sieja: okay. Vicki Mckenney: What does I_D_V_I_D_N_M_E_ stand for? Kimberly Sieja: Industrial Designer Vicki Mckenney: Ah Kimberly Sieja: um Vicki Mckenney: ri okay. Kimberly Sieja: which is Vicki Mckenney: these are requirement specification. Jessica Goble: That's Kimberly Sieja: Um. Vicki Mckenney: And I'm marketing. Jessica Goble: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, there you go. So User Interface Designer, that's Doris Houston: That's Vicki Mckenney. Kimberly Sieja: that's Doris Houston: Okay. Kimberly Sieja: that's you, so you gotta you go, you're you're gonna be the one that's working out what what buttons Doris Houston: Right. Kimberly Sieja: we need. Doris Houston: Right. Kimberly Sieja: Um. Industrial Designer, you are the one, you know, you're gonna be working out kind of box it goes in, I guess so, um whether it's what goes into the box, somehow. Jessica Goble: Mm. Har how it works an Kimberly Sieja: And in marketing Vicki Mckenney: These Jessica Goble: Bu Vicki Mckenney: are requirement specification. Kimberly Sieja: User requirements specifications. Vicki Mckenney: So what the user requires Kimberly Sieja: Yeah, Jessica Goble: Do you think Vicki Mckenney: in Kimberly Sieja: what Vicki Mckenney: a remote. Jessica Goble: our two kind of overlap, Kimberly Sieja: Right, okay, yeah. Jessica Goble: because Doris Houston: Yeah, it does Vicki Mckenney: I Doris Houston: seem Vicki Mckenney: guess Doris Houston: like our Vicki Mckenney: that's Kimberly Sieja: You Doris Houston: our Kimberly Sieja: two Vicki Mckenney: what Doris Houston: responsibilities Vicki Mckenney: it says. Doris Houston: have Kimberly Sieja: you two are gonna Doris Houston: some Kimberly Sieja: be Doris Houston: overlap. Kimberly Sieja: just, I think, you just double up, you know, Jessica Goble: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: you working Doris Houston: Yeah. Kimberly Sieja: together. You're the one that's gotta go and find out do th do the research, see what people want in a remote, what buttons are used more often, and s Vicki Mckenney: Mm. Kimberly Sieja: stuff like that. Oh, we've been warned to finish the meeting now. Okay. Okay everyone, well done. Good meeting. Doris Houston: Alright, see you in thirty minutes. Kimberly Sieja: Yeah. Vicki Mckenney: So, do we take these off? Jessica Goble: I don't	Kimberly Sieja introduced the upcoming project to the team and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals and discussed why they liked those particular animals. Kimberly Sieja discussed the project finances and the team engaged in a brainstorming session about various features to consider in designing a remote. Kimberly Sieja then further discussed the roles of the team members.	4	amisum	train
Dollie Riley: Hmm. Marilyn Stinson: Okay. Good morning everybody. Um I'm glad you could all come. I'm really excited to start this team. Um I'm just gonna have a little PowerPoint presentation for us, for our kick-off meeting. My name is Rose Lindgren. I I'll be Marilyn Stinson. Um our agenda today is we are gonna do a little opening and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about the project, then we'll move into acquaintance such as getting to know each other a little bit, including a tool training exercise. And then we'll move into the project plan, do a little discussion and close, since we only have twenty five minutes. First of all our project aim. Um we are creating a new remote control which we have three goals about, it needs to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I'm hoping that we can all work together to achieve all three of those. Um so we're gonna divide us up into three compa three parts. First the functional design which will be uh first we'll do individual work, come into a meeting, the conceptional design, individual work and a meeting, and then the detailed design, individual work and a meeting. So that we'll each be doing our own ideas and then coming together and um collaborating. Okay, we're gonna get to know each other a little bit. So um, what we're gonna do is start off with um let's start off with Amina. Um Lillian Mendoza: Alima. Marilyn Stinson: Alima, sorry, Alima. Um we're gonna do a little tool training, so we are gonna work with that whiteboard behind you. Um introduce yourself, um say one thing about yourself and then draw your favourite animal and tell us about it. Lillian Mendoza: Okay. Um I don't know which one of these I have to bring with Dollie Riley. Marilyn Stinson: Probably both. Lillian Mendoza: Right, so, I'm supposed to draw my favourite animal. I have no drawing skills whatsoever. But uh let's see, introduce myself. My name is Alima Bucciantini. Um I'm from the state of Maine in the US. I'm doing nationalism studies, blah, blah, blah, and I have no artistic talents. Marilyn Stinson: How do you spell your name? Lillian Mendoza: A_ L_ I_ M_ A_. Marilyn Stinson: Thanks. Lillian Mendoza: Oh, on this project. So let's see if I can get um here. I will draw a little turtle for you all. Not necessarily 'cause it's my absolute favourite animal, but just that I think they're drawable. And you have the pretty little shell going on. Some little eyes. Happy. There you go. That's a turtle. Dollie Riley: Yes. Marilyn Stinson: So what are your favourite characteristics? Lillian Mendoza: Um. I I like the whole having a shell thing. Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Lillian Mendoza: It's quite cool carry your home around where you go, um quite decorative little animals, they can swim, they can, they're very adaptable, they carry everything they need with them, um and they're easy to draw. Marilyn Stinson: Excellent. Shall we just go around the table? Shirley Mcwilliams: Uh Okay. Well, my Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Shirley Mcwilliams: uh and I'm Shirley Mcwilliams for the project. Um. And I'll try and draw my favourite animal. I'll I should leave that one on there Lillian Mendoza: No, Shirley Mcwilliams: shouldn't Lillian Mendoza: you Shirley Mcwilliams: I Lillian Mendoza: can erase Shirley Mcwilliams: before Lillian Mendoza: the Shirley Mcwilliams: I Lillian Mendoza: turtle, it's alright. Shirley Mcwilliams: callously rub it off. Marilyn Stinson: Might be nice to have them all up there at same time. Shirley Mcwilliams: Um I'm not gonna draw it quite to scale um. Shirley Mcwilliams: Is that at least identifiable? Lillian Mendoza: Snake. Dollie Riley: Well. Shirley Mcwilliams: It's Marilyn Stinson: Em Shirley Mcwilliams: a whale, Lillian Mendoza: Well, snake? It's Shirley Mcwilliams: yes. Thanks. Dollie Riley: Oh my god, it's better than what I'm gonna Lillian Mendoza: w Dollie Riley: be able to do. Shirley Mcwilliams: Um and, yeah, all they're quite intelligent um and also they're they're kind of mysterious, like we don't really know much about them or or understand how they work, how they form groups. And I just find them interesting animals. Dollie Riley: Take my contraptions with Dollie Riley. Alright, I'm Jessy. I'm from around D_C_ ish sort of in the U_S_. And we're gonna keep the deep sea sort of theme going on, animal. Don't really know how to draw this. Just where can I Mm. Mm. Maybe if I do the water, but how? Sort of give an idea. idea how one would explain this. Mm maybe with some whiskers. Briefly, it's supposed to be a seal. You can imagine it in the water. I like them, because they are like playful and silly sort of have a good time. Not gonna try and pretend like I can get any better than that. Marilyn Stinson: Mm 'kay. Mm 'kay? I'm Rose and I'm Project Manager, from California. Um. Hmm. Marilyn Stinson: S Dollie Riley: It's definitely significantly Lillian Mendoza: Oh, a cat. Dollie Riley: harder once you are doing it. Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Marilyn Stinson: Um it's actually a coyote. Let's see. Lillian Mendoza: Right. Marilyn Stinson: Let's see, Dollie Riley: That's impressive. Marilyn Stinson: let's give it a little bit of a snout, I don't know, Lillian Mendoza: That's Marilyn Stinson: some teeth. Yeah. Lillian Mendoza: That's pretty Shirley Mcwilliams: Cool. Lillian Mendoza: impressive. Marilyn Stinson: Oh dear. Yes. I live um I live right across the street from an open space in California. We have coyotes howl all the time. So I really enjoy their their singing, you they're really beautiful animals. Mm. Okay um, moving on to slightly more serious stuff. We're gonna talk about project finances. Um we have a couple we'd like to sell it for about twenty five Euro with the profit aim of um fifteen million Euro um from our sales and because this is such this is for television it's a we have a market range of Internet, like it's an international market range, we don't have to worry about specifics. Um in order to make a profit of this magnitude, we need to um be able to produce each one at a maximum of twelve fifty Euro. So we're selling it for twice what we'd like to produce it for. Okay um, just to generate a little bit of discussion about the project um, I could I'd like to hear about your experiences using ro remote controls, um your first ideas about um creating a new r remote control, what would be the best um like you what are the features that you really like what are the features that you don't like, etcetera, so Dollie Riley: Um I hate when there's like four different buttons and you have to press to actually turn on the T_V_ like you have to do one for the power of the T_V_ and then like another one to get the actual screen on and something else to get it all going, I don't know. Now they keep combining all different remotes together, and I don't know if I necessarily like that 'cause I feel like you end up with multimedia overload. I just wanna watch the T_V_ Marilyn Stinson: Hmm. Dollie Riley: um. Always gets lost. Some sort of like device to help you find it. Shirley Mcwilliams: I've used, I've used remote controls, for things like T_V_ and the C_D_ player and video recorder and I I guess they're they're pretty neat neat little tools uh. You don't have to get up and walk across the room to change Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Shirley Mcwilliams: a channel. So especially if you're someone really lazy like Dollie Riley they they're pretty nice. Um. I find them they can be a bit annoying, especially, like you know if I'm watching T_V_ I have have to have three separate remote controls of in front of Dollie Riley, you know, one for the T_V_, one for the digital box, one for m the video recorder as well. Um. And also they tend to they tend to be a bit confusing, they've got too many buttons on them uh too too sort of too sort of complicated when all I really wanna do is switch on and off, change the channel, change the volume. Lillian Mendoza: Yeah um. I agree with having too many remotes around. My dad has a whole drawer at home of remotes for various things, and I don't know how to work half of them um. What's important for Dollie Riley, I guess, is that it's easy to use and that there's not too many buttons, they are not too small, you know you know you need to n to know what you're doing. And one thing I particularly like is if you are not um sort of moving it around to get it to work with the infra-red. Dollie Riley: Yeah. Shirley Mcwilliams: Yeah. Lillian Mendoza: Um, I think there is a way around that, but I know in my residence right now the the television you sort of have to walk all around the room to Marilyn Stinson: Mm-hmm. Lillian Mendoza: get it to turn on, so i it's just simpler just to just turn around the T_V_ itself, and I think that's if we're gonna make a remote control, it should actually work for what it's doing. So Dollie Riley: What about like batteries and things like that, like are there some remotes that don don't require like batteries or do all remotes require batteries? Marilyn Stinson: Um I would imagine Lillian Mendoza: I know. Marilyn Stinson: all of them, but we could but it's possible we could use like a lithium battery um Lillian Mendoza: Yeah, something Marilyn Stinson: that Lillian Mendoza: that Marilyn Stinson: would Lillian Mendoza: doesn't Marilyn Stinson: last a lot longer than like Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm. Marilyn Stinson: double A_s. Um like tho those are the batteries that are used in a lot of um M_P_ three players now and that kind of thing. Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm. Marilyn Stinson: Um. Lillian Mendoza: Mm. Marilyn Stinson: Um. Okay, it seems we have a little bit of a conflict over um to uh combining all the remotes cont together versus having f five different remotes. So um like you said you don't like having all the buttons on one on one remote, and yet you don't wanna have five remotes. So how Shirley Mcwilliams: Mm. Marilyn Stinson: do we work Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Marilyn Stinson: with that? Lillian Mendoza: Could we get something that just has No doesn't have all the buttons that you need to program the video recorder or program s other things that I'm not very coherent about, but that just has your major buttons for that work for everything, you know volume control, Marilyn Stinson: Mm-hmm. Lillian Mendoza: on, off, channel changing. Dollie Riley: And maybe that spatially divides it, so it's like if you're looki if you're trying to get the T_V_ on that's, you know, like the top thing on the remote, I dunno if d be vertical or horizontal in terms Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Dollie Riley: of how we're gonna make it, but if it's like all the T_V_ stuff was here, then all the V_C_R_ stuff was here, all the whatever else we Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Dollie Riley: have programmed Lillian Mendoza: N that way Dollie Riley: into it it's all just in its Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Dollie Riley: separate place and not like all the on buttons together, 'cause then you like, I don't even know what I'm turning on. Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Lillian Mendoza: Yeah, and if um if you'd save the more complicated functions maybe for separate remotes that you wouldn't need to use every day. Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm. Marilyn Stinson: Okay, so Lillian Mendoza: Um. Marilyn Stinson: maybe have like one remote that has the main functions on, off, channel changing, volume, and another rote remote with all the special things. Because Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Marilyn Stinson: that is one thing that um remotes tend to have buttons that the T_V_s no longer have as well. Lillian Mendoza: Mm. Marilyn Stinson: So Shirley Mcwilliams: Yeah. Marilyn Stinson: like you have to have them somewhere, 'cause you're gonna m need those special functions occasionally. Lillian Mendoza: Right. Marilyn Stinson: Um but not necessarily on the m the normal remote. Shirley Mcwilliams: Can I ask, are we designing a remote control for a television only um, Marilyn Stinson: Good question. Shirley Mcwilliams: and if if this device is just to be used for the television would we even technically be possible to include video recorder functions on it? Marilyn Stinson: I don't know Shirley Mcwilliams: Um Marilyn Stinson: that yet. Shirley Mcwilliams: or should we just stick to just stick to having television television related buttons on Lillian Mendoza: Mm. Shirley Mcwilliams: it? Marilyn Stinson: It's a good question. Um. Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm Marilyn Stinson: I'll look into Dollie Riley: hmm. Marilyn Stinson: that. If I can. Dollie Riley: I think it's just T_V_, I mean, if it if we're taking it just new product a new television remote control that's not like doesn't say. Lillian Mendoza: Mm yeah. Dollie Riley: You know, things might be more advanced than that. Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Shirley Mcwilliams: So we should maybe we should assume that i t it's just a television that we're wanting to control. Well, I mean I suppose it would be nice to have playing and record and stop buttons on it for the video recorder as well I I don't know if that works technologically or not. Lillian Mendoza: Yes. I guess we have to define what what we're aiming for. If it's just a television then that it's a bit simpler, 'cause there's less buttons that would even need to be on it. Shirley Mcwilliams: Yeah. Dollie Riley: It's an idea with the buttons being really. Lillian Mendoza: Large. Dollie Riley: Yeah. Lillian Mendoza: If you have older people or people like Dollie Riley that aren't very co-ordinated hand-eye, it's really quite important that you are Marilyn Stinson: Mm. Lillian Mendoza: not pressing a small like teeny mobiles phone size buttons, Shirley Mcwilliams: Yeah. Lillian Mendoza: if we can help it. Marilyn Stinson: Okay. 'Kay sounds like we've had a good little discussion for our first ideas. Mind if we move on? Ps Shirley Mcwilliams: 'Kay. Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm. Marilyn Stinson: mm okay. Um now our next meeting starts in thirty minutes. I believe we've actually been only working on this this one for about twenty, so we can Lillian Mendoza: Hmm. Marilyn Stinson: continue discussing more new ideas if you'd like um, breakdown of what we'll be doing individually. Um the industrial design, Alima will Lillian Mendoza: Yeah. Marilyn Stinson: be doing um the working design. Um Shirley Mcwilliams, that's for. Technical functions, I guess like keeping in mind the buttons thing, the size of the buttons. Um user requirements um, so you'll be hearing about different trends, uh about different things that people need, um I guess kind of the same uh discussion that we've been having, we'll Dollie Riley: Mm-hmm. Marilyn Stinson: get from the actual consum s consumers. Mm 'kay um. And you will get specific instructions sent by your personal coach. I realised in this past one we we didn't have much, we just wanted to get a little brain-storming done. Um so very exited to see all your animals and how what wonderful um artists we all are um. Any questions? Shirley Mcwilliams: What we're gonna be discussing at the next meeting? Do we know that? Marilyn Stinson: I haven't gotten an agenda yet, um I'll put that together. I'm sure Shirley Mcwilliams: Right. Marilyn Stinson: as we'll each get our own instruction and then um because what we gonna do is first our individual actions and then we'll come back together. Shirley Mcwilliams: Yep. Marilyn Stinson: So I'm Lillian Mendoza: 'Kay. Marilyn Stinson: sure we'll all have more concrete things to contribute next time Shirley Mcwilliams: Yep. Lillian Mendoza: I'm sure we'll be busy. Marilyn Stinson: Mm 'kay um I'll type up mi minutes and probably email those out to all of you. Shirley Mcwilliams: Okay. Marilyn Stinson: Um just including all the things that we talked about. Shirley Mcwilliams: Can Marilyn Stinson: Um. Shirley Mcwilliams: you e-mail your slides as well? Is that possible? Marilyn Stinson: Yes, I yes, I think I can. Mm-hmm. Shirley Mcwilliams: Cool. Marilyn Stinson: I'll just attach it to an email. And you're you're number two, Lillian Mendoza: I'm two. Marilyn Stinson: three, four? Dollie Riley: I'm four. Marilyn Stinson: Is that correct? Okay. Lillian Mendoza: Alright. Marilyn Stinson: Excellent. It was lovely meeting you all. Shirley Mcwilliams: 'Kay Marilyn Stinson: Just make sure you keep checking the company web site and the emails. Lillian Mendoza: 'Kay. Marilyn Stinson: Let Dollie Riley see if I can do that right now.	Marilyn Stinson opened the meeting and introduced herself to the team. Marilyn Stinson introduced the upcoming project in which the team is to create a remote control. The team members participated in a tool training exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal on the white-board and discussed why they liked the animal. Marilyn Stinson then talked about the project finances and discussed selling prices, profit aim, market range, and production costs. Marilyn Stinson then led the team in a discussion on their experiences with remotes and what features they would like to include in the remote they are producing. The team members discussed the option of combining remotes and how to produce a remote which is capable of controlling multiple devices.	4	amisum	train
Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: Mm yeah. Selena Carder: Okay. I g yeah. Time it? Esther Hansen: Fourteen twenty six. Selena Carder: Okay. Lovely to see you all again. Um it's our conceptual design meeting and it's starting at approximately fourteen twenty five and so we have forty minutes for this one again and so we'll go just after three o'clock. Um okay our agenda, we're gonna do an opening, I'm gonna review the minutes of the last meeting, then we'll have your three presentations um and then we'll have to make a decision on the remote control concepts, and we'll close. Patricia Bruner: Okay. Selena Carder: So opening. Um these are our minutes from r the functional design. We decided our target group is the focus on who can afford it, because we have international appeal and we said it's for all age groups, different um functions of it. Our main objectives were simplicity and fashion. And s um in specific functions are something to keep the remote from getting lost, large buttons for the essential functions, a possibility for extra functions, like a sliding a sliding piece and a long-life battery or a charging station. Okay, now three presentations. I'd like to do it in this order, first do the conceptual specification of components, properties and materials um Patricia Bruner: That would be Esther Hansen. Selena Carder: and then the conceptual specification of user interface Mildred Reinoso: Yep. Selena Carder: and finally trend watching. Patricia Bruner: Alright. Well. Selena Carder: Mm. 'kay. Selena Carder: Function F_ eight it. There we go. Patricia Bruner: Alright. Um I'm very excited by this one actually guys I uh had a lot of fun doing it. Components design. This is where you look at what does it take to make a remote control and what should we make our specific remote control out of. Um. So, we need to examine each element separately, but we're designing a full thing, so you wanna keep it integrated as a whole. The main elements of remote controls in general, and therefore ours as well, are the case, the buttons, the circuit board with the chip and the battery. These are all things that we had sort of addressed before, but I'm gonna take each one a little bit separately here as we figure out what they should be made of and what they should look like. The case, uh the options that I've gotten from headquarters about what we can do, um there's there's the shape of a case, we could do a flat sh a flat case, a curved case or maybe even a double double-curved case. I haven't seen any pictures of what this exactly looks like yet, just keep that in mind, but these are the options that we have from manufacturing and we can make our case out of plastic, the m the main base will be plastic, but we have all these sort of fashion and technological elements we can add in, wood, latex, titanium, rubber or other coloured types of plastic. That would be our case. Um buttons, for buttons we have um pushbuttons, which is what Real Reaction uses the most often, but we also have scror scroll wheels, which can Selena Carder: Mm. Patricia Bruner: have integrated pushbuttons, or we could go all high-tech and have an L_ L_C_D_ screen. Um circuit board and chip we can have a simple one, a regular one or an advanced one, depending on what our other needs are. And then battery I think is where things get most exciting. We're talking about long-life batteries here. Um we can we can have your sort of basic double A_ batteries, but we also have these options of um using a kinetic battery, like are used in high-tech watches, where you just have to move it a little bit to get it to power up. Um so simple movements like pushing buttons would recharge the battery. Or a solar battery, although there are slight um complications with solar batteries as in we can't use a latex case if we have a solar battery. Selena Carder: Hmm. Patricia Bruner: Or um something they only described as the type of battery you find in torches from about fifty years ago, flashlights. Not quite sure what that is, but that's the description that I received, so that's what I'm passing on to you. So those are our options. Um personal preferences that I was thinking through here's what we've been talking about all through, fashion and simplicity. So if we're going for fashion in our cases, I think that what we're gonna wanna look at is a curved or a double-curved case, probably with a variety of design elements. Maybe titanium, maybe some wood. We're gonna have to investigate that better when I get specifics of the actual materials, but that's sort of what I have in mind. And we wanna go for simplicity. Probably pushbuttons, but I'm sort of intrigued by the idea of a scroll scroll Selena Carder: Mm. Patricia Bruner: wheel, if anyone has anything any ideas on that? I mean I know the iPods and things right now have touch scroll um buttons which are exactly like what they're describing, so that might be something we wanna look into. And I'm really intrigued by the idea of a kinetic battery. Solar I don't think would be such a good idea, because how often are you sure that your remote control will get a certain amount of light. But this idea of the kinetic, that you don't have to replace, and that a simple just shaking it around will make it work, I think that that m would be a very interesting thing. But I think we'd also wanna go for e a simple chip or regular chip to keep our costs down. Uh we really only need a regular or advanced chip t if we're gonna start using an L_C_D_. So I think we want to be aware of not making things overly t technological if they don't need to be, 'cause that'll keep our manufacturing price way down. That's what I have for options. Um I'd appreciate anyone's input, but that's what I'm seeing for the future of the the look of this thing. Esther Hansen: Is double-curved like would be like two hands kind of thing? Patricia Bruner: I'm not sure. I haven't received any specific Esther Hansen: Okay. Patricia Bruner: visuals Esther Hansen: 'Cause I'm Patricia Bruner: of Esther Hansen: imagining Patricia Bruner: this yet. Esther Hansen: like double-curved is like, you know, like two sides that curve Patricia Bruner: This is Esther Hansen: and Patricia Bruner: what Esther Hansen: then like Patricia Bruner: I'm sort Esther Hansen: one Patricia Bruner: of Esther Hansen: curve would just be like a single vertical-ish kind of looking Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: thing, but I've Patricia Bruner: I'm Esther Hansen: no idea. Patricia Bruner: not sure, but I'll let you know as soon as I get any pictures. Esther Hansen: Sounds good. Selena Carder: Yeah, I wonder Patricia Bruner: I know if we do have a double-curved case, it can't have any titanium in it. But the titanium, they were quite they're marketing quite hard to us as being used in the space programme, so that could be quite interesting. Space-age remote. Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: Just all things Selena Carder: Just Patricia Bruner: to Selena Carder: an interesting Patricia Bruner: keep in mind. Selena Carder: marketing kind of Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: element. Patricia Bruner: That's about all I have to do, guys. quickly. Selena Carder: Uh just a real quick question um the weight of these different elements, Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Selena Carder: have Patricia Bruner: n Selena Carder: you Patricia Bruner: no Selena Carder: no Patricia Bruner: idea, Selena Carder: idea, okay. Patricia Bruner: no idea. Um I'm assuming that a kinetic battery isn't gonna take up that much weight, Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: and that a tita titanium is very light, I know, Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: um but other than that's really basic, I mean, that's all I have gotten so far. Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: Alright? Any other questions? Mildred Reinoso: Uh-huh. Don't think so. Patricia Bruner: No? Okay. Selena Carder: Mm 'kay. Patricia Bruner: I have save this in the uh shared projects, if anyone wants to look Selena Carder: Thank you, perfect. Patricia Bruner: and Esther Hansen: Thanks. Patricia Bruner: I have c considerable notes on the topic as well, if anyone needs any more information. Uh Selena Carder: Um if you made notes yourself you can put those on our um underneath our Patricia Bruner: Just in Selena Carder: oh, Patricia Bruner: my notebook, Selena Carder: uh in your book, then don't worry about Patricia Bruner: but if Selena Carder: that. Patricia Bruner: anyone has any specific questions, don't hesitate to email Esther Hansen or something. Alright? Uh I guess I can Selena Carder: 'Kay now we're um concepts concepts of user interface. Yeah, um. This one's so much tighter than the other one. Patricia Bruner: I know. Selena Carder: Okay. Nope. There we go. Here you are. Mildred Reinoso: Jess. Patricia Bruner: G oh, geez. Mildred Reinoso: Alright, so I'm gonna describe the the concept of the user interface of this des device. Um we've talked about uh the two essential properties of the user interface. We want it to be simple and we want it to be fashionable. Um other we've also got to remember that this is a device that serves as a useful purpose. Uh we want people to be able to use it s as a remote control, so we need determine what the essential functions of the d of the device are and make sure that we include that we've included all of those and that we actually end up with a device that is going to be useful to people. We have a number of different choices for a design concept um and s that's that's something that that I'll show you some examples of um, but essentially we need to choose how how is this device going to work, how how what kind of model is there going to be for user interaction with this device. Uh once we've chosen a a concept for it, we can then design the features around the concept, making sure that we get all the essential functions in the device and uh the extra functions and the more advanced features. And of course we also have to make it look cool. So basically, that's what we don't want. M we don't want lots of buttons, uh complicated features. We want something that looks nice and simple. Here's a Patricia Bruner: Hmm. Mildred Reinoso: a fairly simple device. This is an an iPod from Apple. Um I think the main thing to notice about it is it just has four buttons. It's very minimalistic in its design. Uh you use these four buttons to m to move around a range of settings on the small L_C_D_ screen. Um the thing I like about this is that it's very very quick to access the main features. Uh you can just about make out uh that the button three buttons are uh previous track, next track and play pause. They're the main the main features of the iPod, the things you will use a all the time. Um then if you want to do anything more advanced, you go into the little menu on the L_C_D_ screen and you use the buttons just to scroll around and and find the more advanced features that you want. So I think that's that's a good a good kind of model that we could have. Um here's a another example. This is uh it's an interesting idea and I think i it looks pretty cool. Um it's certainly got novelty value. Uh Selena Carder: Mm. Mildred Reinoso: it's nice and colourful, it's nice and bright. Uh it's also something that you can kind of feel your way around. The buttons are are different shapes and and you can sort of yeah if you're watching T_V_ in the dark or whatever, you can work out which button's which and basically, yeah it's ith it's fun. So I I like I like this idea of just having buttons for the features that you use most often. So you'd need a few buttons to select your favourite channels. I mean most people, when they watch T_V_, they have two hundred and fifty channels on their T_V_ and they watch of 'bout four of them at the most. So, you have buttons for your favourite channel, changing the volume, which is something you do all the time when you're watching T_V_, and the button to switch it off, in case you get bored. Um other features, things like adjusting the brightness, tuning the T_V_, uh I don't know what else you do with a T_V_. Um but these are these are all necessary functions. Uh you can't have a t there's no point having a television that you can't tune or that you can't set the contrast, so we need to find a way of including these somehow. Um and one other suggestions I'd make is to in is to include in a menu system, a bit like on the iPod. So we'd either have a small L_C_D_ display on the device itself, or uh have a dis a menu display that comes up on your television and can b be controlled through the device. Patricia Bruner: Hmm. Mildred Reinoso: And that would allow you to access access the advanced features uh whilst keeping a very small and simple set of buttons for the features that you use most often. Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: So you'd be advocating an L_C_D_ then? Mildred Reinoso: I think that's that's one way to go, yes. Patricia Bruner: Okay. Mildred Reinoso: Um I mean there are there are advantages and disadvantages if you if you have an L_C_D_ display, it's it's nice, because it's it it lets you just sort of sit there and st and control your television from your armchair. Patricia Bruner: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: There are disadvantages, an an L_C_D_ display would have to be quite small, 'cause we're Patricia Bruner: Right. Mildred Reinoso: we're I well we're I assume we're gonna be making quite a small device. Um it would also have to have uh a kind of backlighting in it, 'cause you ten you tend to watch Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: T_V_ in the dark, Patricia Bruner: Right. Mildred Reinoso: but you need to be able to see your L_D_D_ L_C_D_ display. The alternative is to have a an on-screen display on your television that you control through your remote control. Uh have these um digital boxes where you you press the buttons and it comes up with your this thing of watch lo what's Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: on each channel. I mean Patricia Bruner: Okay. Mildred Reinoso: that that's also a good idea. It's it can it does have it's problems as well, if you've got a small T_V_ and you're sitting on the other Selena Carder: Mm. Mildred Reinoso: side of a room, it's hard to read the little text that comes up. Patricia Bruner: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: Uh but that's a that's a design decision that we can make. Patricia Bruner: 'Kay. Selena Carder: I do think that um one of the important features for a remote is seeing a menu and seeing what's on. Um Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: and so like favourite channels is is applicable, but I think th that you do need to have some kind of function where it's um you have t you can see Patricia Bruner: Well Selena Carder: the title of the show or possibly a description of it. Patricia Bruner: Are you Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: Like Patricia Bruner: are you Selena Carder: I Patricia Bruner: tak Selena Carder: I know I use Esther Hansen: Wait, Selena Carder: that Esther Hansen: but is Selena Carder: often Esther Hansen: that separate Selena Carder: enough. Esther Hansen: from what he was saying? Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: Well if it if it was a L_ L_C_D_ on th on the remote, I don't know that you could f that you'd Patricia Bruner: No, Selena Carder: be able to Patricia Bruner: I Selena Carder: see Patricia Bruner: think Selena Carder: a Patricia Bruner: I think we're talking menu like contrast and Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: tuning the V_C_R_ or something if I've understood you correctly, Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, that Patricia Bruner: rather than Mildred Reinoso: that Patricia Bruner: menu Mildred Reinoso: would be one Patricia Bruner: as Mildred Reinoso: of the Patricia Bruner: what's Mildred Reinoso: features, Patricia Bruner: on. Mildred Reinoso: yes. Selena Carder: Okay. Mildred Reinoso: But it's Selena Carder: 'Cause that would Mildred Reinoso: it's Selena Carder: be more specifically Mildred Reinoso: it's Selena Carder: a Mildred Reinoso: something Selena Carder: digital Mildred Reinoso: to bear Selena Carder: box, Mildred Reinoso: in mind is that Selena Carder: mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: if we put a display on the remote control the c uh communication is one way, so you can't have the televisions and information back to the remote control, Patricia Bruner: Oh, Mildred Reinoso: at Patricia Bruner: good Mildred Reinoso: least Patricia Bruner: point. Mildred Reinoso: I Selena Carder: Mm. Mildred Reinoso: don't think you can. Um I'm not sure. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: Okay, now Esther Hansen: Should Selena Carder: we're Esther Hansen: I plug Selena Carder: moving Esther Hansen: that Selena Carder: on Esther Hansen: in? Selena Carder: to market. Marketing. Mildred Reinoso: Is that going on? Okay. Esther Hansen: Maybe it's just not Mildred Reinoso: Uh that should Esther Hansen: Is it Mildred Reinoso: be Esther Hansen: on? Mildred Reinoso: alright, actually. Esther Hansen: Ri What F_ do you have to press, five? Selena Carder: Eight. Esther Hansen: I just keep pressing lots of 'em. Well, I don't know how relevant all of this gonna be. If anything, the that they gave Esther Hansen. Patricia Bruner: No Selena Carder: Oops, Patricia Bruner: signal. Selena Carder: it's not plugged in, quite Esther Hansen: Alright. Selena Carder: in well enough. There we are. Patricia Bruner: Oop, there we go. Selena Carder: Mm 'kay. Esther Hansen: Oh yeah. Okay, so we're gonna look a little bit at trend watching. Basically, I was given um an executive summary that was a market investigation on remote controls that was recently conducted, and then also some fashion watchers in Paris and Milan commented on some things that are gonna be going on this year. So first um they had people they ranked um the important aspects of r remote controls, and right now i d they're saying that currently there's a functional look and feel preference, but that really, over the next year it it that's gonna be switching to fancy look and feel remotes, so that just goes back to the whole desire of our c Real Reaction company wanting to focus on fashion and so, even though we're stressing, when we're talking, we've all been talking about this like simplicity and easy to use idea, they're sort of wanting us to remember that the number one thing for everyone is that it's fancy look and feel. And as these are ranked, the top one is doubly important to the second one, which is doubly important to the third one, so Patricia Bruner: Okay. Esther Hansen: just to take that weight into account. The second thing that was mentioned as important was the technological innovations. That would be like if we use something like the space material or the L_C_D_ screen, things like that. And then ease of use was the third most important, whi so really, no matter what, we need to focus the most on fancy look and feel, according to this. I don't know how much we agree with that. And then the fashion watch talks about that this year's top trend for clothes, shoes and furniture is fruits and vegetables and tha that there's a preference Selena Carder: S sweet. Esther Hansen: for spongy, tight material. And so that brings us to my personal preferences. Who wants a spongy remote or one with fruit and vegetable padding. Personally, I don't really think that I want one that's gonna go out of style or go stale, excuse the pun, um in a year, so even though this is coming from us as, you know, trend watch, market research, I don't know how much of it we necessarily wanna take away. Also, considering that the d research b has been carried out by Real Reaction, I'm a little hesitant as to like, how these questions may have been worded, and if necessarily this whole fashion to technology y edas ease of use is necessarily the right ranking. Personally, like I might reverse it, but if we're working for this company then I guess no matter what, we have to stress fashion the most. But it Patricia Bruner: Mm. Esther Hansen: doesn't necessarily need to be a spongy material. Patricia Bruner: That there's all kinds of scope for imagination in that one though. Esther Hansen: Yeah. I don't have a lot of notes to share if you want them, that pretty much sums it up. So yeah. Selena Carder: Okay, do we have any s some questions for this, let's Esther Hansen: Yeah, Selena Carder: see um. Esther Hansen: what can I possibly enlighten on? Selena Carder: Um do you have any ideas how to possibly use these? Um how to how to use a fruit or vegetable or um or the spongy material at all? Like could we make a s like could we make a spongy remote? It would be easier Patricia Bruner: If Selena Carder: on Patricia Bruner: it's Selena Carder: the hands. Patricia Bruner: latex if it's latexy Selena Carder: It's kind of Patricia Bruner: Um, Selena Carder: and then it Patricia Bruner: mean Mildred Reinoso: A kind of Selena Carder: we Mildred Reinoso: thing Selena Carder: would have to Mildred Reinoso: that Selena Carder: find a way to protect like the chip and all that, I dunno. Patricia Bruner: An Selena Carder: But Patricia Bruner: uh I if th my understanding of a latex case is that it's in fact hard to protect stuff inside, but that Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: it's covered with the latex, which is spongier and softer on your hands. It's there's something to be said, I mean we we got that thing earlier from you about um not wanting it to R_ R_ repetitive stress injuries Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: and Esther Hansen: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: things Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: and and Yeah, Esther Hansen: Yeah, so something, m Patricia Bruner: something Esther Hansen: m instead of Patricia Bruner: grippable, Esther Hansen: a necess Patricia Bruner: I mean Esther Hansen: yeah, Patricia Bruner: we don't Esther Hansen: grip, Patricia Bruner: we don't Esther Hansen: I'm thinking Patricia Bruner: we don't wanna go Esther Hansen: grip Patricia Bruner: spongy, Esther Hansen: more than Patricia Bruner: maybe. Esther Hansen: like sinking into your hands, Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Esther Hansen: you know, i and I Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Esther Hansen: think I'm envisioning more like, Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: you know, the material that you have when you sit on like a bicycle, so Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Esther Hansen: that it doesn't hurt when Patricia Bruner: Mm-hmm. Esther Hansen: you're sitting down for a long time, like I'm imagining that sort of thing, I don't know what th that Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Esther Hansen: material's Patricia Bruner: I think Esther Hansen: called. Patricia Bruner: that given the list of materials I w I was forwarded it's that seems doable. could we go in fruit and vegetable colours? We could colour-co-ordinate Selena Carder: F for Patricia Bruner: them, Selena Carder: sure, or maybe Patricia Bruner: li Selena Carder: like um couple main ones being like, I dunno, lemons or strawberries or something. Patricia Bruner: The buttons could be fruit-shaped. Selena Carder: Could they be smelly? Mildred Reinoso: I Patricia Bruner: Oh Esther Hansen: Oh God. Mildred Reinoso: Is it supposed to be shaped like a vegetable? Uh Selena Carder: I Mildred Reinoso: like Selena Carder: don't Mildred Reinoso: uh Selena Carder: know. Mildred Reinoso: I dunno, like uh carrots or something. Patricia Bruner: well it's Selena Carder: Or Patricia Bruner: quite easy Selena Carder: carrot Patricia Bruner: to s Selena Carder: shaped, Patricia Bruner: shape thing Selena Carder: mm. Patricia Bruner: like carrot isn't it? Mildred Reinoso: Maybe, Patricia Bruner: Or maybe the Mildred Reinoso: or Patricia Bruner: buttons could be shaped Selena Carder: Like large Patricia Bruner: like different Selena Carder: button, Patricia Bruner: fruits. Selena Carder: that's what I was thinking of, yeah. Esther Hansen: What about the idea of like a round remote? Instead of like a vertical up and down one. Like Mildred Reinoso: Kind Esther Hansen: in Mildred Reinoso: of Esther Hansen: terms Mildred Reinoso: like a Esther Hansen: of Mildred Reinoso: potato. Esther Hansen: holding it. Like that's a f shape Patricia Bruner: be yeah. Esther Hansen: of a fruit. Patricia Bruner: It'd Esther Hansen: Just Selena Carder: Might Esther Hansen: to Selena Carder: would you Esther Hansen: tie Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: think you Esther Hansen: it Selena Carder: you Esther Hansen: in a little. Selena Carder: do you think you'd be able to hold it? 'Cause I think the reason they're long Patricia Bruner: be harder Selena Carder: is Patricia Bruner: to f bu uh buttons Selena Carder: yeah. Patricia Bruner: I think. It'd be harder to press Mildred Reinoso: Depends. Patricia Bruner: button. Selena Carder: Harder to push. Mildred Reinoso: When you when you use a remote, do you press the buttons with your thumb, usually? Esther Hansen: Yeah. Mildred Reinoso: Or your fingers? Patricia Bruner: Um Selena Carder: I usually hold it in one hand. Maybe Mildred Reinoso: Or maybe Patricia Bruner: I Mildred Reinoso: you want something that's shaped like a mobile phone, so you you hold it in one hand, and you press the buttons Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Selena Carder: But then Mildred Reinoso: with Selena Carder: the buttons Mildred Reinoso: your thumb. Selena Carder: would Patricia Bruner: that's Selena Carder: have to be very small. Patricia Bruner: ts how I tend to do it. Esther Hansen: Yeah, Selena Carder: Don't Esther Hansen: 'cause Selena Carder: you think? Patricia Bruner: No Esther Hansen: otherwise Patricia Bruner: just Esther Hansen: your Patricia Bruner: thumb-sized. Esther Hansen: fingers can't move around. Patricia Bruner: Jus Esther Hansen: But Selena Carder: But Esther Hansen: I like Selena Carder: I mean Esther Hansen: i Selena Carder: in order to get to all of them, Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: you know. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: They would have to be within Mildred Reinoso: Maybe. Selena Carder: a certain amount Patricia Bruner: That's Selena Carder: of Mildred Reinoso: But Patricia Bruner: true. Selena Carder: space Mildred Reinoso: if you've only Selena Carder: with Mildred Reinoso: got Selena Carder: each other. Mildred Reinoso: like four or five buttons anyway, then it's it's not Patricia Bruner: Right. Mildred Reinoso: so much a problem, perhaps. Patricia Bruner: I When I'm when I'm pressing buttons on my iPod, that's how I do it, hold it and press Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: the Mildred Reinoso: So Patricia Bruner: four. Mildred Reinoso: you hold it in one hand Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Mildred Reinoso: and you press you press the buttons Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: with Patricia Bruner: or Mildred Reinoso: your thumb Patricia Bruner: in and use Mildred Reinoso: and Patricia Bruner: my thumb or my pointer finger on the touch scroll wheel. Mildred Reinoso: And Esther Hansen: I Mildred Reinoso: you find Esther Hansen: love Mildred Reinoso: that works Esther Hansen: the idea Mildred Reinoso: quite well? Esther Hansen: of the Patricia Bruner: Yeah Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Esther Hansen: wheel like the iPod. Mildred Reinoso: Is Esther Hansen: 'Cause Mildred Reinoso: that Esther Hansen: th Mildred Reinoso: The button on an iPod, is it what is it, is it just four buttons or is it Esther Hansen: It's Mildred Reinoso: li Esther Hansen: like Mildred Reinoso: more Esther Hansen: five, Mildred Reinoso: like Selena Carder: It's a Mildred Reinoso: a Selena Carder: scroll, Mildred Reinoso: scroll Esther Hansen: 'cause Mildred Reinoso: thing? Esther Hansen: there's Patricia Bruner: It Selena Carder: yeah, Esther Hansen: one Patricia Bruner: wel Selena Carder: it's Esther Hansen: in the Selena Carder: a Esther Hansen: middle. Selena Carder: wheel. Patricia Bruner: well yeah, it would I mean each version of it has been a little bit different, Selena Carder: The one I have Patricia Bruner: but Selena Carder: doesn't have the four on i like Patricia Bruner: Oh yeah, Selena Carder: around Patricia Bruner: you had Selena Carder: it, Patricia Bruner: one Selena Carder: I don't Patricia Bruner: of the Selena Carder: think. Patricia Bruner: in-between ones, when they weren't doing that anymore. Patricia Bruner: Ts Mildred Reinoso: Right. Patricia Bruner: and you press the centre button, that's that's Mildred Reinoso: Oh, Patricia Bruner: your all-purpose Mildred Reinoso: I see, Patricia Bruner: select Mildred Reinoso: right, yeah. Patricia Bruner: button right there. Mildred Reinoso: Oh, okay. Patricia Bruner: Since it's the Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, Patricia Bruner: one Mildred Reinoso: that's Patricia Bruner: in the Mildred Reinoso: quite Patricia Bruner: centre Mildred Reinoso: a good Patricia Bruner: that's Mildred Reinoso: design. Patricia Bruner: not marked, yeah. Esther Hansen: I think why it would be good for us is 'cause like you could have the same wheel sort of effect for like channel flipping and then the other Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: one could be like for volume. Like just the idea of like those so few buttons Patricia Bruner: Uh Esther Hansen: for main Patricia Bruner: uh t Esther Hansen: things, but then how you could go back to the menu and like, I dunno if we would want it on the screen there or on the actual T_V_. I kind of am wanting Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: to say on the T_V_, 'cause if you're changing Patricia Bruner: Hmm. Esther Hansen: the brightness, don't you wanna see it happening, kind Selena Carder: Mm. Esther Hansen: of? Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: And then Patricia Bruner: Yeah, I Esther Hansen: you Patricia Bruner: think Esther Hansen: could still Patricia Bruner: an Esther Hansen: have Patricia Bruner: L_C_D_ Esther Hansen: that available. Patricia Bruner: screen might be good in theory, but not as useful Mildred Reinoso: I think Patricia Bruner: in Mildred Reinoso: it Patricia Bruner: practice. Mildred Reinoso: could be difficult in practice, yeah. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Mildred Reinoso: Also z yeah, 'cause you would be z looking down at the L_C_D_ screen, than Patricia Bruner: Right. Mildred Reinoso: back up at your T_V_ and Esther Hansen: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: people Patricia Bruner: Um Mildred Reinoso: don't wanna do that. Selena Carder: Okay um Patricia Bruner: Oh we Selena Carder: we Patricia Bruner: probably have Selena Carder: have Patricia Bruner: to get going, don't Selena Carder: we've Patricia Bruner: we? Selena Carder: about fifteen minutes left, so I'm I'm gonna Esther Hansen: Uh-huh. Selena Carder: continue with my pres presentation. Um I've one more slide before we close, but in that slide is when we need to make decisions about this these kinds of things, so I'll just Patricia Bruner: 'Kay. Selena Carder: bring that up and show you all before we move on. Um Esther Hansen: If I get Patricia Bruner: Could Esther Hansen: any more information of fruits and vegetables, Patricia Bruner: Could we Esther Hansen: I'll let Patricia Bruner: uh Esther Hansen: you know. Patricia Bruner: could we have changeable covers like for your mobile? Mildred Reinoso: Like, Patricia Bruner: In different Mildred Reinoso: to Patricia Bruner: fruit Mildred Reinoso: make Patricia Bruner: and Mildred Reinoso: it Patricia Bruner: vegetable Mildred Reinoso: different fruits. Patricia Bruner: colours, yeah. Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, it's possible. Selena Carder: Yeah, and then like the the covers could be spongy latex Patricia Bruner: Exactly. Selena Carder: wherea but the actual model could be titanium. Patricia Bruner: And you could co-ordinate with your house or whatever. Mildred Reinoso: I Patricia Bruner: All Mildred Reinoso: think Patricia Bruner: these Mildred Reinoso: maybe Patricia Bruner: options. Mildred Reinoso: th the packaging, it should be like a lemon and the the packaging is like the peel. So Patricia Bruner: Ooh. Mildred Reinoso: instead of opening the box you just kind of peel it, and the remote control's inside. Esther Hansen: Well, there we Patricia Bruner: Oh. Esther Hansen: go. Mildred Reinoso: Don't know. Selena Carder: Ah hmm Esther Hansen: The Selena Carder: hmm Esther Hansen: iPod packaging Selena Carder: hmm. Esther Hansen: is Esther Hansen like was so that was like half the fun. It's Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: like the way it all comes all cute. Patricia Bruner: Mm. Esther Hansen: Lemons? Patricia Bruner: Options. Selena Carder: Okay, um components concept. Energy, chip Patricia Bruner: Uh-hu oh, Selena Carder: on print. Patricia Bruner: oh yes. Right, Selena Carder: G Patricia Bruner: I had sort of skipped over that hoping it wouldn't get be necessary but um Selena Carder: That's th th this is the agenda they gave Esther Hansen. So Patricia Bruner: Alright, Selena Carder: can you just explain Patricia Bruner: so Selena Carder: what that Patricia Bruner: um Selena Carder: is real quick? Patricia Bruner: decisions, what the okay deci decisions on energy I'm thinking is based on the battery. Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: Um I dunno, what do people think about this kinetic battery idea? Selena Carder: I think it's awesome. I Patricia Bruner: Am Selena Carder: think Patricia Bruner: I Selena Carder: it's really cool. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: Yeah, I mean, it would t totally take care of our problem of not wanting to change batteries. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, um I think it's good, as as long as we consider the the cost and the uh how reliable it is, but Patricia Bruner: Right, Mildred Reinoso: as far Patricia Bruner: I haven't Mildred Reinoso: as I know, Patricia Bruner: gotten Mildred Reinoso: the technology Patricia Bruner: any Mildred Reinoso: is good. Esther Hansen: Costs. Patricia Bruner: yeah, any more information on cost other than it's more expensive than a regular battery, but um Esther Hansen: But over time Patricia Bruner: but if we're using a an i a cheaper chip, then it'll even out, I think. Um circuit boards. Um yeah, I got a whole bunch of information on how circuit boards are produced. They're they're thin fibreglass with copper wires etched on to them, and di I think they're quite easily printed on by machine, which is chip on print is where the machine prints on the wires and solders it all together for us. I don't really know what to tell you as far as decisions. I wasn't really given any options, I was just given that this is how they're done. Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: Um yeah, I can't can't really tell you. I can I can tell you a whole lot about how it works. But I don't know any decisions on Selena Carder: If they're if they're really options. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. I'm sorry, I did Selena Carder: Okay. Mildred Reinoso: Al Patricia Bruner: f Mildred Reinoso: all circuit boards are pretty much the same, I think. Uh it's fairly fairly standard. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: then we'll move on to the case. Um oh bu I guess maybe if we decided on like a simple, a regular, or an advanced Patricia Bruner: Right. Selena Carder: chip, Patricia Bruner: Well Selena Carder: maybe. Patricia Bruner: okay, here's the here's the thing on the chips that I that I got. Um simple, regular, advanced chip on print. The chip on print includes an infrared sensor, so we don't have to worry about that. Um, 'kay, the pushbutton if we're gonna have pushbuttons, they require a simple chip, but a scroll wheel requires a regular chip, and an L_C_D_ requires advanced. Do we want a scroll wheel, or do we just want pushbuttons? Mildred Reinoso: Um I don't think we ne really need the scroll whe wheel. I mean it might be nice for changing the volume. Patricia Bruner: Oh. Selena Carder: It would Mildred Reinoso: Uh Selena Carder: be nice for changing Mildred Reinoso: but Selena Carder: the volume, but I don't know how useful it'd be for changing the channel. Mildred Reinoso: I don't Selena Carder: 'Cause Mildred Reinoso: think Selena Carder: you Mildred Reinoso: it Selena Carder: don't Mildred Reinoso: would Esther Hansen: Yeah, Selena Carder: have Esther Hansen: it's Mildred Reinoso: really Selena Carder: control Mildred Reinoso: work. Esther Hansen: a Selena Carder: over numbers or Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, you Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Mildred Reinoso: really need buttons Patricia Bruner: th Mildred Reinoso: for Patricia Bruner: it'd Mildred Reinoso: changing Patricia Bruner: be Mildred Reinoso: a channel. Patricia Bruner: it'd be handy for going through if there was an on-screen menu of your channel choices, Esther Hansen: But Patricia Bruner: than Esther Hansen: if Patricia Bruner: you Esther Hansen: you Patricia Bruner: can Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: scroll Esther Hansen: c if you Patricia Bruner: down Esther Hansen: could scroll Patricia Bruner: on the scroll. Esther Hansen: through the channels, and then Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: the volume would just Selena Carder: We have Esther Hansen: be Selena Carder: five minutes left for the meeting, so. Esther Hansen: and the volume would just be like the same way, Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: forward and backward as I'm just thinking like it would make it much like sleeker sort of looking. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Esther Hansen: And Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Esther Hansen: otherwise, no matter how may buttons we have, we're gonna have like, you know, black with red sticking out and th no it's gonna inevitably sort of start looking like Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Esther Hansen: those group of sort of ugly ones that we saw stacked up. Patricia Bruner: Hmm. Selena Carder: So, have a scroll for volume? Patricia Bruner: F or for all those secret Selena Carder: F Patricia Bruner: functions? When you get on the on-screen menu of all your functions that your remote could do for you without the buttons and you could have a scroll wheel to go through those menus. Mildred Reinoso: I think yeah, I think a scroll wheel would be nice, but it's not necessary. Patricia Bruner: Right. Mildred Reinoso: Um Patricia Bruner: So we could either go with a simple or a regular chip, depending and maybe we could table that decision for later. Selena Carder: Um. Patricia Bruner: I don't know. Selena Carder: I think w well I think when we go on to the une userface, we're gonna have to decide the interface we're gonna have to decide Patricia Bruner: Okay. Selena Carder: um whether we're gonna have a scroll or not. Patricia Bruner: Well, let's think about that while we talk about the case. Selena Carder: Okay, let's do case. Patricia Bruner: Uh I'm kinda liking the idea of latex, if if spongy Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: is the in thing. Selena Carder: I'm a little um I'm a little hesitant about it, because I'm worried about protecting the stuff on the inside. Patricia Bruner: Okay. Selena Carder: Um Esther Hansen: Oh could it be hard, and then Patricia Bruner: Uh yeah, Esther Hansen: something around Patricia Bruner: everything Esther Hansen: it? Patricia Bruner: I've Selena Carder: Yeah, I would be more okay with like a titanium actual thing and then maybe Patricia Bruner: N oh Selena Carder: like Patricia Bruner: wha Selena Carder: a mobile phone Patricia Bruner: what I've Selena Carder: kind of thing. Patricia Bruner: what I've seen, just not related to this, Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: but of latex cases before, is that there's uh like a hard plastic inside, and it's just covered with the latex. Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: Not too thick a layer Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Patricia Bruner: of latex, just enough to be grippable, Selena Carder: Okay. Patricia Bruner: like bike handles or or anything that you've seen like that. The inside is hard. I don't think we need to worry about protecting Selena Carder: Ge o Patricia Bruner: the circuit board, I think that that's done for us. Selena Carder: Okay. Mildred Reinoso: 'Kay. Yeah. Selena Carder: So we uh we do want latex. Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: Okay. Latex. Um and probably in colours, maybe fruity, vegetable colours. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: Fruity colours. Okay um let's go to the ufe user interface then we'll come back to the chip I suppose. Patricia Bruner: Oh and we want a curved case, yeah? Or a double-curved? Selena Carder: Well, we don't really know what the difference is, right? Esther Hansen: I'm thinking curved of some sort. Selena Carder: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: okay. We don't really know what the difference Selena Carder: Um okay, interface, the type and the supplements. So Mildred Reinoso: Um Selena Carder: push or scroll, right? Mildred Reinoso: Yep. Selena Carder: Or both? Mildred Reinoso: Um And I think if we wanna keep our costs down, we should just go for pushbuttons, 'cause then we can have a a simple chip and it's simpler, it's it's cheaper to make pushbuttons than it is a scroll button. Patricia Bruner: Good point. Mildred Reinoso: So in terms Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: of uh in terms of uh economics it's probably better to have pushbuttons. Selena Carder: And if we had a sc an on-screen um kind of thing that you could scroll through, like you can use your buttons to scroll through things. Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, yeah, it's uh Selena Carder: I think Mildred Reinoso: it's Selena Carder: that Mildred Reinoso: it's fairly simple. Selena Carder: yeah. For channel surfing I think a scroll an actual like an iPod's kind of scroll thing would be too fast, Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: I dunno. Patricia Bruner: I say pushbuttons at least unless we get any information but I have no idea how much more expensive a scroll wheel is than than a pushbutton, but it's gotta be some more expensive, so Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: I think it might be better to put our money into the stuff like the kinetic battery and the cool case Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Patricia Bruner: because Selena Carder: Is that okay Mildred Reinoso: Interesting. Selena Carder: with you? How you feeling? Esther Hansen: Yeah. And let's like see if we get anything else. I mean I'm not like hard-sold on the scroll wheel, it's more just to give it a different kind of look, Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Esther Hansen: but if it's gonna be in a latex type thing Selena Carder: It might Esther Hansen: and that's Selena Carder: be cool Esther Hansen: gonna look Selena Carder: enough. Esther Hansen: cool, then that's probably gonna have a bigger impact than the scroll wheel. Patricia Bruner: Yeah. Selena Carder: Okay, so we're gonna go with um type pushbuttons, Mildred Reinoso: Yep. Selena Carder: and then supplements, how are we gonna do that? Mildred Reinoso: Uh what do you mean by supplements, exactly? Selena Carder: Um I assume that's what else we're gonna like h ha the um the additional buttons we can use. Mildred Reinoso: Um Patricia Bruner: Oh. Selena Carder: So we're gonna have like a menu button, Mildred Reinoso: Yep. Selena Carder: so that we can access on-screen things Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: then? Okay, um Patricia Bruner: Alright. Selena Carder: so Mildred Reinoso: Um Selena Carder: we're Mildred Reinoso: in Selena Carder: doing an on-screen menu Patricia Bruner: So what Selena Carder: that Patricia Bruner: are Selena Carder: we Mildred Reinoso: Yeah. Selena Carder: can Patricia Bruner: what Selena Carder: scroll Patricia Bruner: are our Selena Carder: through. Patricia Bruner: buttons gonna be? On off Mildred Reinoso: On off, uh volume, favourite channels, uh Patricia Bruner: So like one Mildred Reinoso: and Patricia Bruner: through Mildred Reinoso: menu. Patricia Bruner: five, or Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, Esther Hansen: Like a Mildred Reinoso: yeah Esther Hansen: radio Mildred Reinoso: about Esther Hansen: type sorta situation? Mildred Reinoso: yeah like yeah, a bit like radio presets. Um Selena Carder: Pre-set channels and then we're gonna need um numbers one through zero, right? Mildred Reinoso: Uh we wouldn't even need Patricia Bruner: No. Mildred Reinoso: the numbers. I think maybe numbers seems is kind of Selena Carder: Well, Mildred Reinoso: old-fashioned. Selena Carder: but in order to pre-set a cha oh I guess you can just hold it down Mildred Reinoso: Yeah, Selena Carder: when you get Mildred Reinoso: yeah, Selena Carder: to one Mildred Reinoso: you can just Patricia Bruner: Mm. Selena Carder: when you're scrolling through. Mildred Reinoso: and you need some kind of, I dunno, sort of up down kind of button, Patricia Bruner: Yeah, Mildred Reinoso: but Patricia Bruner: up Mildred Reinoso: the volume Patricia Bruner: down. Mildred Reinoso: control could double for that, for example. Selena Carder: Mm-hmm. Okay, um finishing the meeting now. Um our next meeting starts in thirty minutes, um you each have things to do, look and feel design, user interface design, product evaluation, and you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. You'll get specific Patricia Bruner: Ooh. Selena Carder: instructions Mildred Reinoso: Cool. Selena Carder: from your personal coach. Esther Hansen: Wow. Selena Carder: Um did we decide on a chip? Let's go with a simple chip? Patricia Bruner: Simple chip. Mildred Reinoso: Yep. Selena Carder: Okay. We are done. Thank you everyone. Oh I di these are already in our shared folder, Patricia Bruner: Okay, cool. Selena Carder: so. Patricia Bruner: Clay. Mildred Reinoso: Clay. I wasn't expecting that.	Selena Carder recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Patricia Bruner discussed possible materials to use in making the case for the remote, options for buttons, and options for batteries. The interface specialist presented two existing products which incorporate features the team is seeking to embed in their remote. The interface specialist also discussed other features to possibly incorporate into the design of the remote, such as an LCD screen. Esther Hansen discussed recent findings from trend watching reports and how to incorporate these findings into the remote design with respect to what materials to use and the overall appearance of the product. The team then discussed other options for how they could incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the appearance of their product. The team then discussed other options for batteries, chips, buttons, and materials for the case, as well as the option to have a menu function.	4	amisum	train
Kristi Carter: That went well, thank you. Felicia Creech: That's great. Kristi Carter: Perfect. Cindy Lane: 'Kay. Felicia Creech: Alright, let Kristi Carter just PowerPoint this up. Felicia Creech: Right so um this meeting will be about the conceptual design, don't ask Kristi Carter s precisely what conceptual design is, it's just something important that we need to do. Um, think of it 's kind of uh turning the abstract into slightly more concrete. In this meeting ideally we'll come to some final decisions on what we're gonna do for the prototype. Um. Right so um, apologies for the last meeting, it was brought my attention that I did not make the roles clear enough, um, so I will attempt to do so more accurately in this particular meeting. Um, fair enough, thanks for the input, 's always good. Um. So, basically all we're gonna do is have some presentations again much like last time, um, and gonna go through you, uh whoever wants to go first is f fine by Kristi Carter um and we'll collate what we know about um what we discussed in the last meeting, possible directions. And then we'll make some more decisions on um basic uh firm up our idea on how we want this remote control to look and work. So, perfect. So, without th further ado, whoever wants to go first is free to. Cindy Lane: I'll go first. Kristi Carter: Go ahead. Felicia Creech: Alright Nathan, take it away. Felicia Creech: It is Nathan right? I'm not calling you the wrong name over Cindy Lane: No Felicia Creech: and over Cindy Lane: Nathan's Felicia Creech: again? Cindy Lane: fine. Felicia Creech: Good. Cindy Lane: It's either Nathan or participant two. Dorothy Pope: Mister Cindy Lane: Uh. Dorothy Pope: participant two that is. Kristi Carter: Nice. Cindy Lane: Okay. Felicia Creech: Nice. Cindy Lane: Um, basically what I'm gonna have to talk to you about today is um component design and it's been brought to my attention that we may be somewhat limited as to what we can do because of what our manufacturer offers, so Felicia Creech: Mm. Cindy Lane: Basically what I'm gonna be doing is talking to you about that. Um, components of a remote control, okay. We've already kind of gone over this but we're gonna have to get into more detail and probably have to reach some conclusions some time soon. Energy source, um, our manufacturer offers a variety of energy sources, your standard battery, solar cells. Our manufacturer didn't say anything about lithium so we might have to look if we do go that route, we might have to look elsewhere. Um, and also there's a kinetic energy possibility. Basically, it's like a um the idea of moving the remote would create enough energy to keep it running. So that's one possibility but I don't know whether that would be powerful enough to illuminate a touch screen. Felicia Creech: Hmm. Kristi Carter: Mm. Cindy Lane: So we'll have to look into that. Um, the case, we have a few options, plastic, rubber or wood. Um and then as far as the way it's shaped, we can do standard boring flat, which we probably don't wanna do, curved or very sexy double curved. Felicia Creech: What kind of th thickness are we looking at? Cindy Lane: Um, I imagine that we could specify. Um, I don't see any reason to go outside of the convention of three or four millimetres. Felicia Creech: Okay, Cindy Lane: Yeah. Felicia Creech: brilliant. Cindy Lane: Um, the buttons, there are multiple scroll buttons available from our manufacturer, but to use those we'd have to use more chips, um and that would cost us more. And if we do go with the rubber doubled curved case um we'll have to use rubber push buttons because the other buttons aren't compatible Felicia Creech: Hmm. Cindy Lane: with that. Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: Um and just a little note there, touch screen equals many chips which equals many Euro. Kristi Carter: Right. Nice. Cindy Lane: Um, one thing that I noticed was that most remotes operate on a infrare on the infrared part of the spectrum. So you notice when you push a button on a remote you can't see anything coming out of it but in fact there is light coming out of the remote and you know the television can detect that. And if you were to record if you were to make a video recording you could actually see the light. Uh one thing that I thought might be interesting was to use part use visible light coming out of the remote, just kind of as a fun gimmick. Felicia Creech: Hmm. Cindy Lane: So you Kristi Carter: Interesting. Cindy Lane: could actually see something coming out of the remote when you pushed it. Course it'd have to be a part of the spectrum that wouldn't damage the human eye or anything Kristi Carter: Mm. Cindy Lane: like that. Kristi Carter: Good call. Felicia Creech: M Maybe is there an option that we can have that off or on so a person can select like Kristi Carter: Choose Cindy Lane: Yeah. Kristi Carter: it. Cindy Lane: I am sure that we could do that. Um, of Felicia Creech: Yeah Cindy Lane: course Felicia Creech: I like the idea, it's a good idea. Cindy Lane: Yeah, just as a fun gimmick. Felicia Creech: Yeah. Cindy Lane: Just to set us apart a little bit. Um, and then on to the circuit board that we're gonna use, also known as the chip. Uh, we really don't have any way around the T_A_ one one eight three five. Um findings, okay, we're very limited by what our current manufacturers can offer, um and my question to all of you is, should we look to other manufacturies or should we just make do with what we have available? Dorothy Pope: Interesting question. Cindy Lane: 'S a bit of a challenge question. Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: Well Dorothy Pope: Yes. Kristi Carter: I'd say shop around but with our time constraints, is that really a feasible option? Felicia Creech: Mm. Cindy Lane: Right, that's my concern too. Um, if we do go the lithium battery route then we'll have to go outside our current manufacturer. My personal preference is I'll just throw my cards on the table, uh I think we should probably go the solar battery route, just to kinda keep with the environmentally friendly theme that we have going on. Uh, I like the idea of the visible light signalling, that's something to set us apart and uh I was thinking about I was thinking of ways that we could produce the remote in a variety of different case materials to suit different tastes. So we're not so confined by one style and say some Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: you know, say our the one if we just go with one and it doesn't go over well then we're in a bad situation. Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: Can we do marketing piloting too? Try to see what kind before we launch can we see Kristi Carter: Um Felicia Creech: how they're received? Kristi Carter: It's an option, uh but actually there's I've got some research already on like what we're looking at and trends Felicia Creech: Okay. Kristi Carter: in casing right now Felicia Creech: Okay. Kristi Carter: which actually might even come into play beforehand, Felicia Creech: Okay, Kristi Carter: it Felicia Creech: perfect. Kristi Carter: may help us decide for now. Felicia Creech: Great, thank Kristi Carter: Temporarily Felicia Creech: you very much Kristi Carter: anyway. Cindy Lane: Oh yeah, Felicia Creech: Nathan. That's Cindy Lane: you're Felicia Creech: perfect, Cindy Lane: welcome. Felicia Creech: so I guess that makes sense for you to take it from here. Kristi Carter: I guess so, 'cause I found some interesting things. You Felicia Creech: Fascinating, Kristi Carter: waiting Dorothy Pope: Did Felicia Creech: compelling Dorothy Pope: you? Kristi Carter: for Kristi Carter? Felicia Creech: even. Kristi Carter: I know, what a teaser ain't it. Um. Right. So current market trends. Screen. Um, basically I was looking at what's going on in the remote control market right now and what's going on in other design fields, to see sort of what's what's trendy, what's new, what's happening. Um, remote control right now basically everybody says they want newer, fancier, more exciting they're sick of this boring, normal, functional, um that we need innovative design options and there needs to be an easy user interface. Um the challenge is that current trends right now, across the board in fashion, in furniture, in technology, is a very organic fruit and vegetable kind of thing. Now I'm not saying we should have, you know, tomato shaped remote controls or anything, but I think it is possible maybe to use um natural colours, like if wood is an option, Cindy Lane: Mm. Kristi Carter: that whole organic, sleek, clean, v line thing may be something we can look into. Different skin options, or if we can't afford this touch plate thing, or touch face screen interface um, maybe having the b images be specific, like you could choose your menu bullets to be Felicia Creech: Tomatoes. Kristi Carter: a different shape or okay, not the example I would choose, but you know what I mean to t sort of and th apparently the feel of the next couple of years is spongy, Cindy Lane: Mm. Kristi Carter: uh not Dorothy Pope: I Kristi Carter: something Dorothy Pope: like Kristi Carter: I Dorothy Pope: it, Kristi Carter: I've Dorothy Pope: I like Kristi Carter: come Dorothy Pope: it. Kristi Carter: up with a though if we can get around to getting piloting, I thought maybe a casing option like uh not like a skin, but like a holder almost Cindy Lane: Hmm. Kristi Carter: if you could do like um, leather options or wood options or something Cindy Lane: I should have mentioned this um. As far as the rubber that we can use Kristi Carter: Mm-hmm. Cindy Lane: we can use a rubber as part of the case, it has a consistency of those stress balls. Dorothy Pope: Yes. Kristi Carter: Mm. Might be an Dorothy Pope: Fabulous. Kristi Carter: interesting Felicia Creech: Slick, Kristi Carter: way to go. Felicia Creech: slick. Kristi Carter: Um, yeah so something to sit on for now. So overall I think we should stick with what we're finding, everyone's looking for easy to use, technologically innovative and this fancy new I think perhaps the double curve thing and maybe this rubber Cindy Lane: Mm. Kristi Carter: option is our best way to go for right now. Um. Felicia Creech: Interface, oh the interface graphics for Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: the um Kristi Carter: Um. Well I d but then if the touch screen thing isn't Felicia Creech: Yeah. Kristi Carter: gonna work out for us that's really a non-issue. Cindy Lane: I like the idea of of rubber too because it's tends to be associated with being durable, something that you can drop and it doesn't Felicia Creech: Mm. Cindy Lane: matter. Kristi Carter: True. Cindy Lane: 'Cause so many you go to so many houses these days and you see broken remote controls. Kristi Carter: Very true. Felicia Creech: Yeah, Kristi Carter: Very Cindy Lane: Taped Felicia Creech: it's Kristi Carter: true. Felicia Creech: like, Cindy Lane: with duck tape Felicia Creech: yep Cindy Lane: and Kristi Carter: Very Cindy Lane: what have Kristi Carter: much Cindy Lane: you, Kristi Carter: so. Cindy Lane: you wouldn't have that problem Kristi Carter: Um Felicia Creech: it's Cindy Lane: if Felicia Creech: ubiquitous Cindy Lane: you used rubber. Dorothy Pope: We can Felicia Creech: isn't Dorothy Pope: have a Felicia Creech: it? Dorothy Pope: duck tape casing. Kristi Carter: We could. I think that goes against the whole fancy something, a new line, but worth a shot. Dorothy Pope: It could go with the granola crowd. Kristi Carter: Ah, it could be, it could be, um. Yeah that's what I know. Felicia Creech: Great, thanks for that Sarah. Kristi Carter: No problem. Felicia Creech: Ron? Dorothy Pope: Phew. Dorothy Pope: Computer's adjusting. One moment please. So interme interface concept by your faithful user interface designer. So yur user interface, guys, is basically aspects of a computer system that can see or hear otherwise uh perceive. Uh, commands and mechanisms, that basically user uses to control the operator operating system. Here's a d series of different remote controls that are out on the market today. I think we're definitely trying to get away from this kind of a look. Felicia Creech: Yeah Dorothy Pope: Um, so the following are a bunch of different uh interface uh concepts. Uh voice recognition, we we um actually have some new uh information from our research design team but uh I'll get to that in a moment. Um, so current voice recognition starts up to about eighty speech samples, um and basically you record your own verbal labels c and connect them to the remote control. Now our design team, research team, has been able to uh set up a system in which uh you can teach the remote control voice c recognition system to respond to um with standard responses. Like you could say good morning uh remote control and it'll say in a sexy female voice, Good morning Joe. Um. In fact we already have Kristi Carter: Mm. Dorothy Pope: this for a coffee maker line Felicia Creech: Lot of single people on the um on the re on the remote control Dorothy Pope: On the remote Felicia Creech: research Dorothy Pope: control Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: team at the Dorothy Pope: right. Kristi Carter: Very true, very true. Dorothy Pope: Um, another concept is what uh Apple has come up with, the spinning Felicia Creech: Mm. Dorothy Pope: wheel with uh L_C_ display like on the uh iPod which I am sure most of you know about. Kristi Carter: Mm. Dorothy Pope: Um and then we have the scroll button with integrated push-button, kind Felicia Creech: Mm. Dorothy Pope: of like a modern a bit Cindy Lane: Mm. Dorothy Pope: bulky, a bit crazy, I don't think that's we're necessarily going for. Cindy Lane: No. Dorothy Pope: And uh some special components, uh ideas like uh blocking, having the ability to block channels from your for your children um and uh dedicated buttons for for commonly used uh channels and even uh ideas like secured or hidden programming but uh I again if we go with touch screen I don't think that's a big issue. Um and uh this is kind of the uh the big daddy Kristi Carter: Hmm. Dorothy Pope: of remote controls here. Uh the jumbo universal remote control is almost impossible to misplace or Felicia Creech: Yeah, Dorothy Pope: lose. Felicia Creech: I can see. Dorothy Pope: Um, again probably not what we're going for so I I mean my ideas here and kind of where I think we're heading is something slightly larger than a regular iPod uh with a hard cla Kristi Carter: Okay. Dorothy Pope: c uh plastic casing although I think some of the suggestions we've come up with are definitely uh very good ideas. Uh changeable casings uh our design team was possibly talking about including one extra face plate with the package to kind of set the idea that you can Kristi Carter: Mm, Dorothy Pope: change Kristi Carter: right. Dorothy Pope: it and you can try changing it and kind of get used to thinking about maybe buying another one which can add value to our uh bottom line. Uh touch screen interface, um possibly having go-to buttons being uh stuck into the system so those don't move away from the screen, uh, the important ones like power, volume and jump between channels. Um, and of course our voice command system which I've talked a little bit about already Felicia Creech: Mm. Dorothy Pope: and uh the use of recognisable colours and shapes to aid recognition of the features um that are around so red for power, um Kristi Carter: Mm. Dorothy Pope: arrows for different volume ups and downs and channels ups and downs and what not. And uh perhaps even adding in some stupid little jokes with the voice recognition idea like perh mm for instance my toastie maker that I got from my bank has jokes when it's ready. Kristi Carter: Nice. Felicia Creech: Great. Dorothy Pope: And uh that is about it. Felicia Creech: Great, wonderful Ron, cool. Lot of good ideas, good facts to have. Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: That's what they need, it's like a little dongle it just sticks up this further so you don't have to stand up every time, just Cindy Lane: Yeah. Felicia Creech: connect Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: it, my kingdom. Right so, good to know all that stuff, thanks guys, um. Now we kind of have to come to some decisions, um, I figure we can just go down the line and all three of us can have a chat about it. Um. Based on what Nathan presented as far as the um various costs and benefits um I think, I dunno, what do you guys think about the touch screen at this point? Kristi Carter: I think it's our most marketable feature just because it's so new and it's something that is showing up in other places. Felicia Creech: 'Kay. 'Kay. Kristi Carter: But can we really afford it 'cause it looks like they would be, that would be a really main cost source then Felicia Creech: Mm-hmm. Kristi Carter: right? Cindy Lane: My estimate is that in order to incorporate touch screen technology it's gonna cost us upwards of seventeen fifty Euro Felicia Creech: To produce Kristi Carter: Per? Cindy Lane: per remote, Felicia Creech: each one. Cindy Lane: yeah that's just an estimate Kristi Carter: Piece. Cindy Lane: though. Dorothy Pope: Oh you guys are always the dampers on these projects. Kristi Carter: I know Felicia Creech: Mm. Dorothy Pope: You industrial designers. Cindy Lane: I know. It's Felicia Creech: Hmm. Cindy Lane: fun. Kristi Carter: And our goal was to be under twelve fifty or we have to be under twelve fifty? Felicia Creech: Well. Kristi Carter: Do we remember? Cindy Lane: I thought there was some flexibility with that. Kristi Carter: Okay. Felicia Creech: There is, it's just, it is a question Kristi Carter: Can Felicia Creech: of Kristi Carter: we justify it? Felicia Creech: and how much ca o does that mean we're gonna have to increase the price to make money. Um, from twelve fifty if we d wanna get our fift uh hundred per cent profit margin um that would mean selling it from twenty five. If you multiply seventeen fifty by two that's thirty five. Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: So Dorothy Pope: Where do you guys come up with these numbers? Cindy Lane: That's just off the top of my head, it is pending further emails. Felicia Creech: From the board, Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: um, well Kristi Carter: Though I think that's what people would pay for, I mean if you're gonna pay for an expensive high class remote, you're gonna expect it to do something Felicia Creech: That's true, I mean Cindy Lane: It is the new it would be in a class of its own. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: And that's to be fair the um the per cent of the market we're not going for mass any you know, mass sales anyway, we're gonna make I mean we we're not talking about selling eight zillion of these things, we just couldn't, Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: not for twenty-five Euros, so we could probably maybe shrink the profit margins rather than selling for twenty five, sell 'em for thirty, but that's something that we can have finance deal with. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: Um, I say that we provisionally go with the touch screen or wh y wh what was your thought on the matter Ron? Dorothy Pope: I'm thinking that's uh definitely a good idea and I also think that we could probably come up with some sort of a cheaper uh means to to go about this kind of production, Kristi Carter: See if we can cut Dorothy Pope: my Kristi Carter: some corners. Dorothy Pope: my team in the uh on the third floor suggested that uh Kristi Carter: Right. Well and we can look into this other manufacturing option, and maybe we can get 'em somewhere else cheaper. Felicia Creech: Mm. Dorothy Pope: Yeah. Cindy Lane: It's true. We could initially go with what we have and Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: if we can find them Kristi Carter: It's Cindy Lane: cheaper Kristi Carter: a starting Cindy Lane: later Kristi Carter: point Cindy Lane: on Kristi Carter: anyway, so. Felicia Creech: No we could have a s very simple touch screen, you know, there's always the opportunity, if it's gonna be about the size of the iPod or whatever, you know, w we yeah, I guess we can play around with it a bit. Alright, let's Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: let's say that okay so the touch screen will be our um our main selling point here. Dorothy Pope: I Felicia Creech: So Dorothy Pope: mean I think that we really have two main selling points, Kristi Carter: Yeah 'cause Dorothy Pope: I think Kristi Carter: with voice Dorothy Pope: that our casing Kristi Carter: recognition Dorothy Pope: and the voice recognition Kristi Carter: I mean really this is pretty bells and whistles kinda remote. Cindy Lane: Yeah. Felicia Creech: The voice rec thing, I mean, if if we're looking at bottom line, now we're looking at upping the cost to seventeen to get the touch screen on, I think we might have to drop the voice rec. Kristi Carter: I think we'd have to decide between 'em definitely. Felicia Creech: Yeah. Dorothy Pope: To be honest, we Kristi Carter: Price-wise. Dorothy Pope: have the capa we have the design in-house, I mean we've we've come up with this, with Kristi Carter: True. Dorothy Pope: this new voice we're Kristi Carter: We've Dorothy Pope: using Kristi Carter: already got Dorothy Pope: it for Kristi Carter: it. Dorothy Pope: our coffee machines already. I can pass you on that email from my uh guy in uh guy down the hall. Sounds good. Felicia Creech: Hmm. voice rec? Cindy Lane: I think if we we do both the obviously production costs are going to go way up um but it does put it into it'd become the Rolls Royce of remote controls basically. Kristi Carter: Pretty much. Cindy Lane: It would be very nice. Dorothy Pope: I mean we we have to r reflect back on what our market research did say. Kristi Carter: Right and they said they wanted voice recognition. Course, maybe they hadn't thought of this whole touch screen option, but definitely we know the market is there for voice recognition so to say we have the technology and we're not gonna use it even though we know it'll sell is a call I don't think I can give the highs ups. Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: Like really I can't go in and say no we're gonna just ignore everything we know. Felicia Creech: Yeah. Dorothy Pope: Does having both really up our costs? Felicia Creech: I can't see how it wouldn't, I mean, there's you know the old aphorism, you can have it fast, you can have it cheap or you can have it quality, pick two of three. You know, you can't Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: you can't have all three. Cindy Lane: Yeah, 'cause you Felicia Creech: It's Cindy Lane: you Felicia Creech: just Cindy Lane: just Felicia Creech: impossible. Cindy Lane: upping the number of chips that you need to deal with each different Kristi Carter: Yeah. Cindy Lane: function. Felicia Creech: Well if we're gonna pick betwe e alright so we have to pick between one of the two. Um. Otherwise, yeah, we just it just becomes cost prohibitive. What which, which do we suspect we should hold o we should hold on to? Kristi Carter: Well, we already have research backing voice recognition as you know fiscally solvent. But uh I I I personally would tend to another direction but if that's what's gonna sell I think that's what we need to go with and maybe we can table this touch screen for our next model. Cindy Lane: I would have to side with that, I think Felicia Creech: 'Kay. Cindy Lane: the voice recognition is simpler, we already have the all the technology in-house, it's ready to go, it's packaged, it's Felicia Creech: What does the cost look like Ron? Is it cheaper to do the V_R_ or to do the uh touch screen? Nathan? Dorothy Pope: Well my p Kristi Carter: Mm. Dorothy Pope: is Cindy Lane: Um, this is just off the top of my head keep in mind, but I think the voice recognition would they're both mm they're both gonna push the costs up, but um, since we already have the technology Felicia Creech: Mm. Cindy Lane: in-house for the voice recognition we're not gonna have to do as much Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: design work and sometimes the design work is what push the costs up, Felicia Creech: Right. Cindy Lane: if you know what I mean. Kristi Carter: Right. Dorothy Pope: Um, I definitely have to agree with that last Kristi Carter: And Dorothy Pope: comment. Kristi Carter: we're still not then we don't have to deal with this battery issue nearly as much either, Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: we can stick with what we've already got. In a lot other ways too. Felicia Creech: Okay. So I'm getting alright so more or less you guys think that o o of the two of 'em, the voice recognition will be better. Okay. Kristi Carter: I think it's our lower risk option which Felicia Creech: Yeah. Kristi Carter: for right now we can have it on the market sooner which is all in all our best option. Felicia Creech: Okay. Sorted. We will omit the touch screen in favour of voice recognition. Dorothy Pope: It's you and Kristi Carter outside a little here. Kristi Carter: So and when are we gonna have basic prototypes coming up next that's you guys's next step right? Felicia Creech: Yeah, well we'll we'll sic we'll sort out what it what f what else we're gonna talk about Cindy Lane: Yeah. Felicia Creech: for Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: the prototype but yeah that's our next step, it'll Kristi Carter: Okay. Felicia Creech: be a developing Cindy Lane: Are Felicia Creech: of Cindy Lane: we Felicia Creech: prototype. Cindy Lane: going to talk now about um the materials that we're gonna use for Felicia Creech: Yes. Cindy Lane: the case and Kristi Carter: Mm-hmm. Felicia Creech: We'll Cindy Lane: all Felicia Creech: just Cindy Lane: those Felicia Creech: run Cindy Lane: things? Felicia Creech: through it yeah, Cindy Lane: Okay. Felicia Creech: yeah, um. You discussed either a lithium or a solar power. Would the solar power be enough to fuel a voice recognition? Or this kinesthetic one, would that be enough to fuel a voice recognition remote Cindy Lane: Um, Felicia Creech: control? Cindy Lane: the solar power definitely would be but I think just to keep people from getting annoyed, 'cause sometimes solar power fails and there's no way round that, we should install a small backup battery. Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Cindy Lane: Just to cover those moments when for whatever reason, the remote hasn't Kristi Carter: Well what Cindy Lane: been Kristi Carter: of Cindy Lane: exposed Kristi Carter: people with like Cindy Lane: to Kristi Carter: the T_V_ in their basement, Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: like what if Felicia Creech: Yep. Kristi Carter: wha we can't guarantee sunlight everywhere so having a Cindy Lane: It's Kristi Carter: secondary Cindy Lane: true. Kristi Carter: source is probably Cindy Lane: Yeah, it works about the same as a solar powered calculator, Dorothy Pope: Calculator. Cindy Lane: and you know Kristi Carter: Yeah. Cindy Lane: how those those don't really Kristi Carter: True. Cindy Lane: require that much light, Kristi Carter: True. Cindy Lane: um, but obviously a little more light than a calculator, but we're not talking about a lot of light. Doesn't have to be out taking a sunbath for Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: a few Felicia Creech: Right. Cindy Lane: hours a day or anything. Kristi Carter: Okay. Felicia Creech: Okay. What do you think Ron? Dorothy Pope: I'm willing to agree with everything that's been said. Felicia Creech: Okay. Dorothy Pope: Uh I have to say though that um another idea's come up in my head. idea of having a hand-held remote control and maybe kind of have a round remote control that kind of looks like a paperweight or something like that, kind of Kristi Carter: Uh Dorothy Pope: a sleek little uh Felicia Creech: Hmm. Dorothy Pope: neat Cindy Lane: Hmm. Dorothy Pope: thing that sits on your table or something. Kristi Carter: Interesting. Cindy Lane: Why, Dorothy Pope: Just a thought. Cindy Lane: why Felicia Creech: Yeah. Cindy Lane: moving away from hand-held, why? What's the uh Dorothy Pope: Well Cindy Lane: idea? Dorothy Pope: if you don't need to pick it up it could kind Kristi Carter: I Dorothy Pope: of Kristi Carter: if Dorothy Pope: be Kristi Carter: it's Dorothy Pope: a selling Kristi Carter: got voice Dorothy Pope: point. Kristi Carter: recognition it can be technically anywhere in your room and Cindy Lane: Hmm. Kristi Carter: still do its job. Cindy Lane: Do you think people that are people that buy a remote, are they always gonna wanna use the voice recognition or is it just something that they do sometimes. Kristi Carter: True, and i probabl I think we're banking on selling it to more than just voice recognition people, like we want it to work fundamentally Felicia Creech: Well Kristi Carter: as Felicia Creech: we have Kristi Carter: a basic Felicia Creech: to have buttons Kristi Carter: manual Felicia Creech: on it too Kristi Carter: too, Felicia Creech: as well. Kristi Carter: right. Felicia Creech: But that's done, that's no bother I mean if you look at the catalogue from places like with sharper image or whatever you know they might have or like um who is it, Apple makes these really pretentious speakers with the th sub-woofers you know like clear and glass Kristi Carter: Mm-hmm. Felicia Creech: and you know and Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: then they got these little Kristi Carter: Yep. Felicia Creech: pyramidal type of um speakers. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: I mean, why not have a little rounded kind of thing, it could still have the basic buttons on it. Um, 'cause we're going for basic functionality primarily as well. Kristi Carter: With the bu yeah. Felicia Creech: And maybe a menu button and so forth, you know um use a channel button to scroll through the menu d if they want to record programmes or whatever you know I mean we Cindy Lane: I Felicia Creech: can Cindy Lane: think, Felicia Creech: sort Kristi Carter: Mm-hmm. Felicia Creech: that Cindy Lane: I think Felicia Creech: out. Cindy Lane: you're on to something because Felicia Creech: Yeah. Cindy Lane: we need to escape the traditional shape of a remote. Maybe something Kristi Carter: True. Cindy Lane: that looks nice on a table is would be good, Kristi Carter: Way Cindy Lane: even Kristi Carter: to go. Cindy Lane: though and hand-held the same time. Dorothy Pope: I think it's all about following Apple's lead on a lot of these Kristi Carter: Yeah Dorothy Pope: things. Kristi Carter: I'm thinking of the airport Dorothy Pope: Mm-hmm. Kristi Carter: portal, you know Felicia Creech: Mm. Kristi Carter: like that little pod looking thing? Cindy Lane: Yeah, Dorothy Pope: Exactly. Cindy Lane: those are nice. Felicia Creech: Yeah, I mean a nice although we do um wh uh is I'm recalling that she mentioned that we n need to get away from the surgical white kind of brushed Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: aluminium thing Cindy Lane: Mm. Felicia Creech: and get back to it but you could have a very tasteful um wood coloured or earth Kristi Carter: That would Felicia Creech: tone Kristi Carter: be kinda Felicia Creech: kind Kristi Carter: neat. Felicia Creech: of um Kristi Carter: Terracotta bowl or something. Felicia Creech: Still, I mean, yeah, along those lines. Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: Yeah I like that, I like that idea a lot. Um, let's see what we can do as far as that goes. Cindy Lane: Okay. Felicia Creech: And the uh the material like the plastics and so forth, we were discussing that being uh using like a rubber kind of softer feel, Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: um you know li lik if you feel the the tip on this pen it's a bit gives just a bit. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: You know something where it's uh a a more advanced f form of plastic that has some kind of a tactile response to it. Cindy Lane: Right. Just kind of the squishy feel. Kristi Carter: Yeah, which is the next big thing, so that's not gonna hurt us either. Felicia Creech: Mm 'kay. Yeah let's see if we can do a squishy non-remote control-looking remote control. But to be fair, yeah, I mean, you just c you could just put it literally put it on the the ni the coffee table next to the telly and say Kristi Carter: Right. Felicia Creech: volume up. Yeah Kristi Carter: Handy. Felicia Creech: I like it, I like the idea, that's good. Um and we've sorted of discussed costs, um. I guess we'll a that's gonna be uh a thing, if we run a bit over-budget, that might be okay, um. Cindy Lane: Sorry about the uh lack of information on cost, I just haven't been provided that information by our manufacturers Kristi Carter: Okay. Cindy Lane: and Felicia Creech: We'll have more Cindy Lane: I'm just Felicia Creech: of an Cindy Lane: having Felicia Creech: idea when Cindy Lane: to Felicia Creech: the Cindy Lane: guess. Felicia Creech: prototype have more of a we'll have more of an idea later on. Um. And we just yeah go from there. Um, so we've revisited the touch screen and more or less ruled that out, um, I think so we're more or less con we wh wh we're more or less in agreement that we want to have a um a simple kind of function, you Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: know, not too complex. Kristi Carter: Right. Well when the majority of people are only using the most primary functions on a daily basis, although I'm not saying we should completely rule out major functions, they should be secondary, at least if not functionally then visually, like those shouldn't be Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: Like maybe have menu Kristi Carter: Take precedence, Felicia Creech: things. Cindy Lane: If, Kristi Carter: yeah. Cindy Lane: if we're not going the touch-screen route then we can um just incorporate maybe something that folds out like what Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: you often see Felicia Creech: Mm. Cindy Lane: on these kinds of remotes is the most basic functions up here and Kristi Carter: And Cindy Lane: something Kristi Carter: they slide. Cindy Lane: that slides down to reveal the you know more complicated things. Felicia Creech: Yes. Kristi Carter: Well and do we wanna consider like an iPod screen which isn't a touch screen but you're still scrolling through menu options, in p Dorothy Pope: Think then we're hitting our cost issue again. Kristi Carter: True, we're Felicia Creech: Yeah Kristi Carter: still Felicia Creech: we've Cindy Lane: Yeah. Felicia Creech: also Kristi Carter: not making Felicia Creech: got the Kristi Carter: it easier Felicia Creech: Kristi Carter Kristi Carter: then. Felicia Creech: the thing of, if we're gonna have a non-remote-looking remote, Kristi Carter: True. Felicia Creech: how do we yeah. Kristi Carter: Fair enough. Felicia Creech: B But no I mean we could do a slide or a compartment, you know, like if it say it's Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: a lit little vaguely ovoidal type of thing, it'd be easy to have a compartment in there. Or you know, a b a b a a series of you know three or four buttons with a menu button and then a side an s up and down type of thing, like on um like on a D_V_D_ player. You Kristi Carter: Mm-hmm. Felicia Creech: know you see the modern D_V_D_ players'll just have um a menu button on the side and then Kristi Carter: Yeah it's Felicia Creech: four Kristi Carter: just a Felicia Creech: buttons Kristi Carter: scroll. Felicia Creech: around them and you Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: can just kind of manoeuvre Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: through the menu like that. Cindy Lane: So are we gonna are we talking we need to figure out what kind of buttons we're going to use, are we going to use scroll buttons? Rubber buttons? Um Felicia Creech: Well it seems like I dunno it seems to Kristi Carter that we could just do the um stick with the rubber 'cause since we're probably gonna be using Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: some kind of um rubber for the outside case we Kristi Carter: Probably. Felicia Creech: might as well stick with that um. Cindy Lane: Right. Dorothy Pope: I think to a certain extent we have to stick with uh kind of uh a little bit traditional in terms of the buttons and then Kristi Carter: Right. Dorothy Pope: and then make our unique feature our casing and what not Kristi Carter: Mm. Dorothy Pope: and our voice command. Kristi Carter: Well no it's basic just like four directions that are that can use as menu or channel and volume or however you wanna do it, are really versatile and everybody's already got them to some extent on the remotes they already own so it's not like we're dealing with everybody relearning things 'cause that's not something anybody's gonna wanna buy a new for. Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: Mm 'kay, um. We've already kind of covered this as well. That seems to be selling um and we we've more or less agreed that we want to kar target this youth market, Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: um. Especially now with eighteen to thirty five year olds being such a large quantity of the population. Kristi Carter: Right, particularly in technological fields, so Felicia Creech: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Kristi Carter: that's exactly where we're headed. Felicia Creech: Okay. Um. Yeah alright, well, more or less covered what we need to cover I think fi an an any final thoughts before we think about doing the protot moving on to the prototype. Dorothy Pope: Well what are we actually doing? What Felicia Creech: Right. Dorothy Pope: were Felicia Creech: I was just gonna step on to um Kristi Carter: Uh. Oh it wasn't in the way but Felicia Creech: I wasn't? Kristi Carter: yeah, Felicia Creech: Oh, my Kristi Carter: whatever. Felicia Creech: bad um sorry. Kristi Carter: No, don't worry about it. Felicia Creech: The um, yeah okay I was just gonna assign tasks in the next Dorothy Pope: Sure. Felicia Creech: b anyth any oth any other Kristi Carter: Okay. Felicia Creech: final thoughts before we go ahead and cool? Cindy Lane: So Kristi Carter: Yeah. Cindy Lane: have we decided that we are gonna go with different style cases for different people? Or are we just Felicia Creech: Um. Cindy Lane: going to go with one? ..It's very, it's very hard thing to predict because Kristi Carter: Yeah. Cindy Lane: you have different cases and that might open up your market a little bit obviously, but if you have just one case and it doesn't go very well mm. Felicia Creech: Yeah. Kristi Carter: Right. Cindy Lane: It's a tough situation, but obviously having more cases also costs more so Felicia Creech: Well then again colours wouldn't be so hard to do, you could have uh Cindy Lane: There's an idea. Felicia Creech: a, you know, a um uh kind of a natural wood colour, like a stained wood and Kristi Carter: Mm. Felicia Creech: um, I don't know, olive green or something. Kristi Carter: Yeah. Felicia Creech: That wouldn't be so much of a problem to incorporate into the colour of the thing. Dorothy Pope: And again copying iMac's kind of for iPod Mac Kristi Carter: Yeah, Dorothy Pope: Apple's Kristi Carter: get Dorothy Pope: uh Kristi Carter: in there. Dorothy Pope: colour scheme. Kristi Carter: Yeah, totally. Felicia Creech: Yeah, I think that's probably a good Cindy Lane okay so let's work on uh multiple case colours. But yeah, stick with the same kind of kinda yeah, the same basic non-remote kind of remote design. Cool. Alright, so we'll have the next meeting about half an hour, um. I want the uh I'd like Nathan, I'd like you to work on just the basic look and feel, what can we accomplish, um, given these parameters that we're just gonna sort of have this kind of uh non-remote remote. Um, Cindy Lane: Right. Felicia Creech: what are our broad constraints before we deve design a prototype. And um Ron if you can figure out how probably best to lay out this idea of this simple design with the voice recognition built in and also this kind of drop down or s on the side kind of menu options simple. Somehow work out how we can get this all s in the same place. Um, and if you can check product evaluation with m some pilots and stuff. Um I need you guys to work together on making a prototype, um using um prototype building materials um. And also um specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches as Cindy Lane: Oh Felicia Creech: well. Cindy Lane: excellent yeah. Felicia Creech: So that's what to start with for now, is that alright, Kristi Carter: Cool. Felicia Creech: you guys feel Cindy Lane: That Felicia Creech: clear Cindy Lane: sounds Felicia Creech: about this? Cindy Lane: good. Dorothy Pope: Fabulous. Felicia Creech: Alright. I guess we'll just hit the bricks. Thanks guys. Kristi Carter: Cool.	Cindy Lane presented an analysis of cost and the manufacturing options that were available to the group. Kristi Carter presented market trends and the organic trend that this project would adopt. She discussed materials that could be used to follow this trend. Dorothy Pope presented several interface concepts including voice recognition, a spinning wheel design, and a touch screen interface. The group then discussed the features of the device. They discussed the costs and benefits of using either voice recognition or the touch screen interface, and decided on voice recognition based on their marketing data that favored it. They decided to use solar power to power the device. The group discussed the non-traditional look the device could have since the voice recognition would allow it to be stationary. They discussed using rubber for the case. The group talked about hiding the complicated functions from the main interface, using rubber for the buttons, and having different cases to suit different tastes. Felicia Creech reiterated that the product was being marketed towards the youth market, and then gave out assignments and instructed the group to work together to build the prototype.	4	amisum	train
Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Oh I totally Yeah 'cause I moved it. 'S put it over here. Then we don't have to worry about it. Carlene Mccain: Ready for this? Catherine Slaughter: All set? Cool. Alright, it is PowerPoint time. I've done more PowerPoints in this particular experiment than I've ever done in my life before this experiment Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: which is kind of fun. Carlene Mccain: Oh man. Catherine Slaughter: So uh here we have our detailed design meeting where we will um look at the prototype and um right so um, I finally figured out what this whole second bullet point is about in my that my coach was sending to Valerie Chevalier. It means I'm supposed to read the minutes from the previous meeting. Gina Vanegas: Oh really? Okay. Catherine Slaughter: I think. Valerie Chevalier: Huh. Catherine Slaughter: I don't know. Otherwise it's just saying I'm the secretary and I'm therefore I'm taking the minutes, s so just to go um just real briefly to go over minutes from last meeting, uh, I will open them slowly, no? Wait for it, wait for it. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah that's not you. Catherine Slaughter: No. That's how the Wait. This is, this is very high-powered stuff here, double-clicking, there we go. So um basically the moral of the story from our last minute uh last meeting was that um we that we had meetings from uh we had presentations done by Gina Vanegas, uh or from Nathan, and Ron and from Sarah about what we can do here um and what sort of limitations we're operating with um uh excuse Valerie Chevalier what limitations we're operating under, what kind of risk we'd be looking at with some of the various approaches we were discussing and we essentially came to the conclusion that we should develop a remote with uh voice recognition, I_E_ that had a vaguely non-remote like shape um because you didn't really need to use it as a remote since you could just use your voice. That would include some mostly just the simple design features for a television operation but with a slide or a fold-out bay for more advanced functions for users. Um, and uh the uh uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ were asked to go ahead and start developing a prototype for us to look at. So. That's sorted, back to the main meet here, um, go ahead and take it away guys. Gina Vanegas: Well. Uh, we have assembled our prototype, um. What's to be said about it? Um, we took into account a lot of the things that we went over in the last meeting, um. Some of the most important things to consider are that we decided not to go for the touch screen which you can see Catherine Slaughter: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: and opted for some very large buttons for the primary functions, um. This is going to be the on off button and have these buttons to go through the channels um and then two volume buttons down here, d uh we decided those were the most important uh buttons. And then, for the more advanced uh functions there is a slide out panel here um and you can see that there are lots of other things going on. But this actually can slide back in and provides a very nice aesthetic when it's all put away, um. As far as the uh whole visible light thing, we decided to go with the Valerie Chevalier: Ah. Gina Vanegas: multiple colours coming out, Catherine Slaughter: Nice. Gina Vanegas: why not? Valerie Chevalier: Fair enough. Gina Vanegas: Of course, if that's annoying for some people that function can be turned off. Catherine Slaughter: Perfect. Gina Vanegas: Um. Carlene Mccain: No Gina Vanegas: Go ahead. Carlene Mccain: it's important to we talked a quite a bit about uh you know the the interchangeable uh faces Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Carlene Mccain: and what we've done here is come up with a bit of a natural look here um f Valerie Chevalier: Right. Carlene Mccain: we call it fruity if you will. Valerie Chevalier: Appropriate, Carlene Mccain: Um. Valerie Chevalier: okay. Carlene Mccain: Right, um, of course that's uh interchangeable and uh I think it would be desirable for the uh for the regular product in the in the in the Valerie Chevalier: Mm 'kay. Carlene Mccain: in first to be something a little bit more subdued but this is kind of something that can be done Valerie Chevalier: It is an option. Carlene Mccain: um and as you can see on the television there uh we have the uh voice detector device Catherine Slaughter: Oh, right. Carlene Mccain: um on Gina Vanegas: That's Carlene Mccain: the Gina Vanegas: this Carlene Mccain: top Gina Vanegas: here. Carlene Mccain: there. Valerie Chevalier: Ah. Carlene Mccain: Um. Valerie Chevalier: I see. Carlene Mccain: So that that will work quite well with with regard to finding this uh contraption. Um, what other things do we see here, well, um if you give it a touch it does have actually a bit of a spongy feel, um, so I think that will work well with regards to our market. Um and uh let's see, well clearly there's gonna be some more colours and what not available. Um uh do you have anything else to add to that? Gina Vanegas: Um I worried about the materials, it is uh the entire thing is covered in a rubber coating so it's very durable uh, it's not gonna break like some types of plastic that's dropped. Um, and of course as you can see and if you touch it it does have that nice squishy feel. Carlene Mccain: It's actually important to note that the television, uh you know if there's an earthquake or anything like that, that i it actually is edible inside. Gina Vanegas: Fact, I dunno if you noticed, but I wrote the uh the company's name Catherine Slaughter: Oh Gina Vanegas: on the telephone Catherine Slaughter: well Gina Vanegas: screen, Catherine Slaughter: done Valerie Chevalier: Nice. Gina Vanegas: I thought Catherine Slaughter: yeah, Gina Vanegas: that was kinda Catherine Slaughter: yeah Gina Vanegas: nice. Catherine Slaughter: oh Gina Vanegas: This Catherine Slaughter: ok Gina Vanegas: was actually an apple on the inside. Valerie Chevalier: Do we need Gina Vanegas: This Valerie Chevalier: to worry about um rot factors? Carlene Mccain: Um it's encased in a new uh type of uh Valerie Chevalier: Oh okay, there's preservatives Carlene Mccain: polymer Valerie Chevalier: involved, Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: we don't Carlene Mccain: yeah. Valerie Chevalier: need to worry, Carlene Mccain: It's Gina Vanegas: We Carlene Mccain: fine. Valerie Chevalier: okay. Gina Vanegas: got a bit ahead of ourselves, I know we're not Carlene Mccain: Hmm. Valerie Chevalier: Fair Gina Vanegas: talking Valerie Chevalier: enough. Gina Vanegas: about making televisions at this point Catherine Slaughter: Edible Gina Vanegas: or anything Catherine Slaughter: televisions, Gina Vanegas: like Valerie Chevalier: No Gina Vanegas: that, but Catherine Slaughter: it's a Valerie Chevalier: but Catherine Slaughter: wave of the future. Valerie Chevalier: It's a Carlene Mccain: It's Valerie Chevalier: couple Carlene Mccain: pos Valerie Chevalier: years off at least. Carlene Mccain: a possible new Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Carlene Mccain: product. Um, but I think that's I think that sums up the main features of our of the remote, um Catherine Slaughter: Brilliant. Gina Vanegas: Right. Carlene Mccain: I dunno if you guys have any questions or f whether that uh whether we need to worry about any uh other marketing areas or anything of that nature. Um, did we come in under budget? Gina Vanegas: Uh we did, yeah. This cost well to put this into um production, we're looking at about what was our goal? It was twelve fifty Euro um and this actually came in at about eleven ninety nine. Um, so I was quite pleased with that. Carlene Mccain: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: One thing that we didn't do um obviously we had a choice with the buttons whether to use scroll buttons or standard rubber buttons, but we just went for a classic rubber button Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: and um since we did that we didn't have to use as many microchips which was quite nice and that's what helped keep the cost down. Catherine Slaughter: Brilliant. Gina Vanegas: So even though it has Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: a lot of modern technology, um for example the voice recognition, in a lot of ways it's just a simple remote Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Gina Vanegas: and um Carlene Mccain: Mm. Gina Vanegas: I think if we shopped around for other manufacturers um we might be able to get even cheaper. Carlene Mccain: Did Gina Vanegas: And Carlene Mccain: we talk about the voice recognition uh option? Gina Vanegas: Oh no, we haven't talked Carlene Mccain: So Gina Vanegas: about that yet Carlene Mccain: uh Gina Vanegas: have we? Carlene Mccain: so uh yeah on the back here you all noticed this area here which is actually the voice recognition uh Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Carlene Mccain: uh console and uh I think it's nicely designed into the into the overall Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: look. Um, but basically the voice recognition uh incorporates um the latest designs that our research team has been able to cufw uh come up with. Basically uh quite similar to the coffee maker Valerie Chevalier: Mm Carlene Mccain: um Valerie Chevalier: 'kay. Carlene Mccain: design that we were talking about earlier and um, I think that uh has given a proven um ease of use and Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Carlene Mccain: what not. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: And uh allows features like the remote actually talking back to the user Valerie Chevalier: Right. Carlene Mccain: um, so. Catherine Slaughter: Cool. Gina Vanegas: Any questions? Catherine Slaughter: No, no I think that's Valerie Chevalier: Do we have um other, for lack of a better word, skins? Covers? In play now or are those ones gonna be developed later once we see how the couple we have g go or? Gina Vanegas: Um, do you Valerie Chevalier: Do Gina Vanegas: wanna Valerie Chevalier: we Gina Vanegas: answer Valerie Chevalier: know Gina Vanegas: this Valerie Chevalier: where we Gina Vanegas: one Valerie Chevalier: stand Gina Vanegas: or do you want Valerie Chevalier: on Gina Vanegas: Valerie Chevalier to Valerie Chevalier: that Gina Vanegas: answer Valerie Chevalier: yet? Gina Vanegas: it? Carlene Mccain: Well we didn't quite have enough material uh. Valerie Chevalier: Oh I wasn't expecting a prototype Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Valerie Chevalier: I just Carlene Mccain: Oh Valerie Chevalier: didn't Carlene Mccain: I see, Valerie Chevalier: know if you Gina Vanegas: yeah. Valerie Chevalier: guys had any in mind Carlene Mccain: right, Valerie Chevalier: yet. Gina Vanegas: Um, Carlene Mccain: um. Gina Vanegas: well as you can see this is just a most superficial layer and um it'd be very easy to Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Gina Vanegas: put another layer Valerie Chevalier: Just Gina Vanegas: of Valerie Chevalier: veneer Gina Vanegas: something else Valerie Chevalier: really, yeah. Gina Vanegas: like Carlene Mccain: Right. Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Carlene Mccain: Actually this bottom red ring here just unclips Valerie Chevalier: Mm-hmm. Carlene Mccain: and then you put Valerie Chevalier: And the Carlene Mccain: a Valerie Chevalier: whole Carlene Mccain: a new Valerie Chevalier: thing Carlene Mccain: a new uh Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Carlene Mccain: a new plate on top of that. Valerie Chevalier: Right. Carlene Mccain: So I mean there are I we definitely Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: priced out Valerie Chevalier: There's Carlene Mccain: a spongy even spongier non-natural look Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Carlene Mccain: um materials which I think worked out fine. We also continued Valerie Chevalier: Mm 'kay. Carlene Mccain: on with the ideas that f following uh Apple's colour schemes Valerie Chevalier: Okay, Carlene Mccain: with the kind of the Valerie Chevalier: very Carlene Mccain: uh Valerie Chevalier: cool. Carlene Mccain: light orange and Gina Vanegas: It's Carlene Mccain: the Gina Vanegas: not Carlene Mccain: green. Gina Vanegas: it's not quite a a face plate, it's more like a pseudo-face plate Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Gina Vanegas: because it's simple enough that in the factory it could we could very easily put a different one on it, it locks into place such that, you know, it's pretty permanent but at the same time, if we wanna go the other way it's just a matter of a couple of adjustments and we could go Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Gina Vanegas: the face plate way if you know what I mean. Valerie Chevalier: Yep. It's still an option if we Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: need it. Very cool, nice job. Catherine Slaughter: Right, yeah thanks guys that's very, very good work. I like it, brilliant. Um, what we need to discuss now is the finance of it, um I got Valerie Chevalier you've got you provided a number that actually sounds quite nice. Um the trouble is I was just given this by finance. Gina Vanegas: Oh. Catherine Slaughter: Um, it's a spreadsheet of the parts and I've just tentatively put in what it's going to Gina Vanegas: Ooh. Catherine Slaughter: look like um. I'm just gonna clear this out real quickly, but it looks like So we'll just if we can just itemize what's in here, we've got this it's a solar cell thing right? Gina Vanegas: Right uh Catherine Slaughter: With Gina Vanegas: we Catherine Slaughter: a Gina Vanegas: didn't Catherine Slaughter: back-up Gina Vanegas: really touch Catherine Slaughter: battery? Gina Vanegas: on that but it it's in there, yep. Catherine Slaughter: With the ba okay. Um and Carlene Mccain: The voice recognition area actually doubles as uh as the solar cell area. Catherine Slaughter: Clever, Carlene Mccain: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: clever, well done. Um so I guess that would mean we've got a bit of a um It's a s a speaker and a sensor at the same time isn't it? Gina Vanegas: Yeah, yeah. It's just making use of the same space and Valerie Chevalier: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: the same materials, Catherine Slaughter: Okay. Gina Vanegas: but Catherine Slaughter: Um and the case, it's more of a single-curved case, I guess would be that be the general Gina Vanegas: Yeah, one big Valerie Chevalier: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: curve I guess you could say. Catherine Slaughter: Um and we've got a rubber skin material basically throughout. Um. Push button interface um with this other drop-down so maybe we've got two push button interfaces don't Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Catherine Slaughter: we? Gina Vanegas: mm-hmm. Catherine Slaughter: Um. And um a special I guess it's uh we've got a sort of a wood materi a rubbery type material Gina Vanegas: Yeah, special. Catherine Slaughter: that throughout, yeah. Gina Vanegas: And s I guess you have to mark special colour and special form as well, don't you? 'Cause it i it is very unconventional, Catherine Slaughter: Yeah, it's it's Gina Vanegas: I like Catherine Slaughter: quite Gina Vanegas: to think Catherine Slaughter: unique. Gina Vanegas: of it as Catherine Slaughter: I Gina Vanegas: unconventional. Catherine Slaughter: like it, yeah it's So it looks like Valerie Chevalier: M come in at sixteen? Catherine Slaughter: a bit over Gina Vanegas: Oh. Catherine Slaughter: budget, Gina Vanegas: Huh, Catherine Slaughter: um. Gina Vanegas: doesn't match up does it? Catherine Slaughter: So what we could do perhaps, a simple fix would maybe to switch away from the solar cells um or take out the back-up battery. Gina Vanegas: How do Catherine Slaughter: Uh Gina Vanegas: you feel about that? Carlene Mccain: I mean I think that uh if we're talking about it being one of our main selling features, being environmental and without the batteries and what not, although it does still have a battery so I'm not sure that Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: you know what the sell is on that. Gina Vanegas: I mean we could take we could take the battery out of it you see and it'd probably work ninety nine per cent of the time but you're gonna have to set up a call centre for that one per cent of the time when people are calling and saying oh look my remote isn't working what Catherine Slaughter: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: am I Valerie Chevalier: Mm Gina Vanegas: gonna do? Valerie Chevalier: k. Catherine Slaughter: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: People'd be real upset. I Valerie Chevalier: True. Gina Vanegas: think in the long-run it's better to keep the battery, it's hard to scrap the whole cell battery idea 'cause that's so integral to the theme that we have. Catherine Slaughter: Hmm. Catherine Slaughter: What's difficult, we have all these things integral to the um to the design Valerie Chevalier: Nah. Catherine Slaughter: of it that we just can't back out of now, it would have to be seems like we'd have to go back to square one in a way. Um if we were gonna try to undo one bit we'd probably have to undo most of it, Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: um Valerie Chevalier: Although we don't wanna get rid of the whole environmental I mean obviously the solar cell is a big piece of the way we're marketing this as like a natural, new thing, but honestly if we cut that one piece out we're actually coming in under budget if I've done my math correctly. Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Carlene Mccain: I mean you might Valerie Chevalier: I mean Carlene Mccain: be able to sway Valerie Chevalier on the idea that we our main selling point could be already this voice recognition thing I mean that's Valerie Chevalier: Which, Carlene Mccain: what sets Valerie Chevalier: it's Carlene Mccain: us apart right? Valerie Chevalier: yeah that's what setting us into this young market, I mean that's where we started from, so I don't know, and I mean you know perhaps when the cell technology comes down in price we can bring that back into the game but it looks like at this point that may be out of our league. Carlene Mccain: And the reality Gina Vanegas: Right. Carlene Mccain: is you know, for Valerie Chevalier from an ideological stand point, I'd like to stick with the uh the solar cell, but I h kind of have to throw myself Valerie Chevalier: Right. Carlene Mccain: in the in the business structure model Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: here and Gina Vanegas: Right. Carlene Mccain: uh you know I think Catherine Slaughter: It's either or. Carlene Mccain: I think that Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: I think that we need to come to a compromise here and maybe move ahead with the project, without the solar cell. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: I think Gina Vanegas: I guess Valerie Chevalier: unfortunately Gina Vanegas: we might have to Valerie Chevalier: that's Gina Vanegas: do Valerie Chevalier: our best Gina Vanegas: that. Valerie Chevalier: option. Gina Vanegas: It's the only way we're gonna get below our uh goal isn't it? Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: Of twelve fifty. Catherine Slaughter: 'Cause we can't remove the push buttons 'cause they're Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Valerie Chevalier: It kind Catherine Slaughter: um Valerie Chevalier: of yeah. Catherine Slaughter: and we can't get rid of the uh I mean removing the changing the case wouldn't be so much of a Carlene Mccain: Savings. Catherine Slaughter: mm-mm, um, Valerie Chevalier: Mm-mm. Catherine Slaughter: nor would changing the case materials. Um. So yeah that looks like to be the only thing. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: So that would be the it's a major change but Yeah. Gina Vanegas: Gotta Catherine Slaughter: Alright, Gina Vanegas: do what you gotta do. Catherine Slaughter: so we're in agreement on that. Valerie Chevalier: Unfortunately I think we are. Carlene Mccain: No, I think that was a good compromise you brought forward Sarah. Catherine Slaughter: Right. Moving along swiftly. Um, so I guess now we just go to the project evaluation which I will allow Sarah to take Valerie Chevalier: That Catherine Slaughter: over. Valerie Chevalier: would be Valerie Chevalier. Um cord? Catherine Slaughter: Ah of course, sorry. Valerie Chevalier: No problem. Catherine Slaughter: Whoosh. Valerie Chevalier: Can you reach, that Carlene Mccain: Yep. Valerie Chevalier: would be great, thank you. Catherine Slaughter: That'd be great Valerie Chevalier: I didn't even do that one on purpose either, damn. Okay, um, basically I was just evaluating um from what we know of how our product's working right now with the criteria that we set at the beginning of these are the things we needed to do, these are the things that look like we feel they're important. Um so I was looking at basic design things, does it fulfil its functions as a remote? Is the design what we wanted it to do? I are technologies up to where we hoped they would be and does it fulfil the aesthetic qualities that our original market research was looking for? Um. Basic questions like, you know, does it turn on? Does it respond to voice recognition? And overall, in general, it looks like it's coming up to par. Gina Vanegas: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Um, the only thing is with with the pull-out panel, that is, can it take some adjusting because it's a new sort of interface, um that looked like it was coming up rough, but then, once you get used to it, it does make a lot of sense. So I think overall we're headed in the right direction. Gina Vanegas: Really good. Valerie Chevalier: So. Carlene Mccain: They like that spongy feel. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. It looks like it's going over well, Carlene Mccain: And Valerie Chevalier: so Carlene Mccain: the paging Gina Vanegas: Six? Carlene Mccain: function works well, that's Valerie Chevalier: we're Carlene Mccain: good to hear, Valerie Chevalier: we're good Carlene Mccain: we Valerie Chevalier: yeah. Carlene Mccain: worked hard on that one. Gina Vanegas: We Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: did. Valerie Chevalier: It's I think eventually if we do um branch out with this product maybe we do have a higher budget options and if it goes over with this model we can look into um wider range voice recognition like from other rooms of the house and stuff, but for now, what we've got is working in the range we need it for, so it's all good. Catherine Slaughter: Brilliant. Gina Vanegas: I am bit Valerie Chevalier: That's Gina Vanegas: disappointed Valerie Chevalier: everything from Gina Vanegas: about Valerie Chevalier: Valerie Chevalier. Gina Vanegas: losing the solar panel Catherine Slaughter: Hmm. Gina Vanegas: but Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: it's okay. Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah, it is a set-back, but Okay, do you need the cord back? Carlene Mccain: W we might Catherine Slaughter: Um Carlene Mccain: have Catherine Slaughter: yeah, Carlene Mccain: uh Catherine Slaughter: I was just Carlene Mccain: we Catherine Slaughter: go on. Carlene Mccain: might have lost that granola market again that Gina Vanegas: I Carlene Mccain: we're Gina Vanegas: know. Catherine Slaughter: Well they don't own tellys anyway do they? Carlene Mccain: I guess Gina Vanegas: True. Carlene Mccain: that's true. Catherine Slaughter: Right. So, um, this one's a bit unclear to Valerie Chevalier to be perfectly fair, um. I got this slide from the coach and I'm not sure what it's connected to. Um so I guess we are going to discuss um our project process um and that is gonna go into my report. So I guess this is the point where we go um uh out of role it looks like and talk about our satisfaction for room for creativity and so forth and Gina Vanegas: Okay. Catherine Slaughter: how that all worked, I guess, um. Valerie Chevalier: As in within the team Catherine Slaughter: I think Valerie Chevalier: or? Catherine Slaughter: so yeah. Gina Vanegas: Right so it's Valerie Chevalier: Okay. Gina Vanegas: just kind of a Catherine Slaughter: I think Gina Vanegas: open Catherine Slaughter: it's Gina Vanegas: mic kind of thing or Catherine Slaughter: I mm-hmm, I think so. Gina Vanegas: 'Kay. Catherine Slaughter: I think Valerie Chevalier: It is now, you're in charge Catherine Slaughter: hope Valerie Chevalier: so there you go. Catherine Slaughter: I'm not screwing up an experiment. But I trust that she would jump in if I was so okay fair enough. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: Whatever. Catherine Slaughter: Um right, um so any thoughts? Gina Vanegas: Are we considering Valerie Chevalier: Um. Gina Vanegas: these points here? Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: Okay. Valerie Chevalier: I think they're starting blocks yeah. Catherine Slaughter: What do you guys feel about the process? Valerie Chevalier: Um, you know I think in general, for a day's worth of work we actually were relatively productive, considering the little amount of input we had going in. Catherine Slaughter: Mm-hmm. Valerie Chevalier: Um, and the technology has definitely been a help, it's really been interesting to try out all this new stuff. Carlene Mccain: We didn't use the whiteboard at all. Gina Vanegas: No. Catherine Slaughter: No, Valerie Chevalier: No, Catherine Slaughter: no Valerie Chevalier: we Catherine Slaughter: whiteboard. Valerie Chevalier: didn't. We could now if that'd make up for it but really Carlene Mccain: And Valerie Chevalier: and I feel like if you guys had been designing in here perhaps that would have changed but because of room constraints, doesn't really matter. Carlene Mccain: Um, also had I not been intrigued about the pen, I don't think I woulda used it at all, I didn't write barely anything. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah I think I was taking notes more often than usual just 'cause Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Valerie Chevalier: I liked the pen, Gina Vanegas: it's true. Valerie Chevalier: yeah. Carlene Mccain: Uh. Gina Vanegas: Mm. Catherine Slaughter: Was pretty cool tack though. Carlene Mccain: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: Definitely. Valerie Chevalier: I am disappointed I didn't get a note back from my personal coach. Gina Vanegas: As you write your personal coach. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah, but I didn't get a response so we'll see. Gina Vanegas: What if you get a response two or three months from now? Valerie Chevalier: Okay Gina Vanegas: That'd Valerie Chevalier: that Gina Vanegas: be Valerie Chevalier: would Gina Vanegas: weird. Valerie Chevalier: be kinda creepy. Catherine Slaughter: Attempts to contact coach ineffective. Valerie Chevalier: Well what kind of coaching is that really? What if I really needed something. Carlene Mccain: I so I don't n I think there was a lot of room for creativity, we could do whatever basically Valerie Chevalier: I think so. Carlene Mccain: what we wanted until the budget came down on us, um. Valerie Chevalier: And even then we did get a decent product turned out although it's not everything we wanted it to be. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: With the natural look. Gina Vanegas: That's very natural. Catherine Slaughter: Very natural look. Valerie Chevalier: Organic, really. Catherine Slaughter: That's the brilliance of they had a p they had a peeler in here. Valerie Chevalier: And highly resourceful team mates might I add Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: which is always a plus. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah, I think, yeah re I thought it was like really creative actually, I mean. Valerie Chevalier: Mm yeah, Carlene Mccain: I Valerie Chevalier: I'm impressed. Carlene Mccain: think the teamwork was good Gina Vanegas: And to Carlene Mccain: as Gina Vanegas: prove Carlene Mccain: well. Gina Vanegas: that we weren't wasteful we didn't waste a single bit of Play-Doh, we used every bit. Valerie Chevalier: Nice. All four of those little containers. Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Catherine Slaughter: Including Gina Vanegas: I guess Catherine Slaughter: the s the multi-coloured wave pattern. Gina Vanegas: My one my one criticism is that we didn't have enough colours to work with, we only had four, Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: wasn't enough. Valerie Chevalier: You could have developed multiple skins really had Gina Vanegas: I know Valerie Chevalier: you had Gina Vanegas: it Valerie Chevalier: more colours. Gina Vanegas: could have been amazing. Valerie Chevalier: Oh well. Catherine Slaughter: What did you guys think about the the the roles? Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Valerie Chevalier: They were good. Gina Vanegas: Yeah it's f kind of fun, Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: it was I think it was pretty clever 'cause we were never able to get too far off track because the information came in at the right time and Valerie Chevalier: True. Gina Vanegas: kind of filled in the gaps enough. At the same time you had enough room to kind of just make things up, Valerie Chevalier: Do your own. Gina Vanegas: which was kind of fun. Valerie Chevalier: Though I did feel like th the level of information dropped off severely over the course of the day. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: I mean maybe it's just Valerie Chevalier but I didn't actually get any information for the last presentation at all. Catherine Slaughter: That's true, Valerie Chevalier: Nothing, Catherine Slaughter: I I got this spreadsheet. Valerie Chevalier: I didn't even get an email, like that was it. So, yeah, I feel like that was slightly lacking but then you know, fill in the blanks on your own, level of creativity upped. Carlene Mccain: Well Valerie Chevalier: Whatever. Carlene Mccain: I think that was I think that was an issue I kept finding with regard to Catherine Slaughter: Of what to do. Carlene Mccain: well no but also yeah when I was reporting about what each of us was doing I was often Gina Vanegas: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Mm-hmm. Carlene Mccain: confused as to what you were doing Valerie Chevalier: Uh-huh, that wasn't very much. Gina Vanegas: You know Carlene Mccain: felt Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Carlene Mccain: like you know a lot of our discussion would centre around n specifically what my task was because that was kind of the interface Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: portion which was what Valerie Chevalier: Yes. Carlene Mccain: the whole project was about Catherine Slaughter: Mm, mm. Carlene Mccain: uh Valerie Chevalier: Hmm, very much so. Carlene Mccain: but and then in the end I think our jobs kind of melded together a Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: little bit more, Gina Vanegas: That was fun. Carlene Mccain: which Gina Vanegas: I think Carlene Mccain: was fine. Gina Vanegas: the most helpful thing out of everything was getting the the PowerPoint slides already put together Carlene Mccain: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: for you Valerie Chevalier: Yeah, Gina Vanegas: 'cause if Valerie Chevalier: already Gina Vanegas: we didn't Valerie Chevalier: having Gina Vanegas: have Valerie Chevalier: the Gina Vanegas: that Valerie Chevalier: formatted stuff Gina Vanegas: there's Valerie Chevalier: helped Gina Vanegas: no way Valerie Chevalier: a Gina Vanegas: we Valerie Chevalier: lot. Gina Vanegas: could have got all that done in time. Valerie Chevalier: Very much so. Catherine Slaughter: Cool. Carlene Mccain: And I think your leadership was quite good. Gina Vanegas: It was Valerie Chevalier: Hmm. Gina Vanegas: really good yeah. Catherine Slaughter: She said I I I she actually made a comment off boy you're getting into this and I really I think it's true I did get I I Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: felt like I got way too into it. Valerie Chevalier: That's kind of a good thing though, Catherine Slaughter: I felt like I Gina Vanegas: It's Catherine Slaughter: slipped Gina Vanegas: kinda fun. Valerie Chevalier: you Catherine Slaughter: into Valerie Chevalier: know, Catherine Slaughter: it a lot. Valerie Chevalier: give the rest of us some structure to work with so hey. Catherine Slaughter: I dunno. Carlene Mccain: An so is that the first time you've taken on that kind of role? Catherine Slaughter: The first time I've ever done anything like yeah project project management. I usually Valerie Chevalier: Hmm. Catherine Slaughter: organise crap, it's one thing to do, you know set up a party with your friends, Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: you know? Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: Little different. Catherine Slaughter: But you guys felt that you could keep the, yeah, suspension of disbelief kind of like like the role Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: and the okay? Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: I except for a couple moments where it just got out of hand and I knew we were Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: all lying through our teeth, other than that Carlene Mccain: I had to admit, as soon as w we started I mean as soon as we got the Play-Doh, Valerie Chevalier: I could only imagine. Carlene Mccain: th you know the whole concept of really trying to stick with reality went out the window. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah, yeah. Maybe in in Legos you know? Carlene Mccain: Possibly. Catherine Slaughter: Be fun with Legos too, like make a remote control or spaceship, we used to have spaceship Legos did you guys ever used to build spaceships Carlene Mccain: Oh yeah, Catherine Slaughter: with Legos Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: still Catherine Slaughter: everybody Carlene Mccain: have 'em. Catherine Slaughter: knows Valerie Chevalier: Totally. Catherine Slaughter: best spaceships ever. Um you guys felt like there was enough teamwork in all? Gina Vanegas: Yeah? Valerie Chevalier: I think so. Carlene Mccain: Yep. Catherine Slaughter: Hmm. Gina Vanegas: You Catherine Slaughter: No Gina Vanegas: don't. Catherine Slaughter: I, no I dunno, I d I I dunno, I don't I I was just Valerie Chevalier: Though Catherine Slaughter: I Valerie Chevalier: we didn't actually I mean other than minor discussion at meetings there wasn't except for the actual building, Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: but Catherine Slaughter: It's true Valerie Chevalier: I feel Catherine Slaughter: huh? Valerie Chevalier: like if this was a team project there actually would have been much more of the collaborative like brainstorming, use the board well and this would have been six months' worth of work, not like Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: three hours' worth of meetings. Carlene Mccain: I mean I think had the issue been more serious we probably woulda brainstormed more during our meetings as Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: That's Carlene Mccain: a Valerie Chevalier: true. Carlene Mccain: team. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Course I'm I'm conscious of the idea of Catherine Slaughter asking if you guys feel like there's a team you know it's like, kind of like, like hmm. It Valerie Chevalier: Yeah Catherine Slaughter: d Valerie Chevalier: that is kind of Catherine Slaughter: But yeah. Interesting. It's kind of fascinating wasn't it? I mean the whole process of Gina Vanegas: Wonder why is there anything about the way that we got so much inform what was it that kept us from going to the the board? Catherine Slaughter: I don't know. I I don't know if there was a ri I th Valerie Chevalier: Mine was the mics. I didn't feel like getting up and down and dealing with all these wires, Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Valerie Chevalier: I was afraid Gina Vanegas: that's Valerie Chevalier: I was gonna Gina Vanegas: it Valerie Chevalier: break Gina Vanegas: 'cause Valerie Chevalier: something Gina Vanegas: the Valerie Chevalier: actually. Gina Vanegas: mics are loose and each Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: time you get up it's s a possibility Catherine Slaughter: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: of tripping over something or getting tangled or. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: Well I dunno what I woulda shown on that board. Valerie Chevalier: True, but it didn't even occur to Valerie Chevalier as an option, I mean I don't Catherine Slaughter: Nor Valerie Chevalier: know that Catherine Slaughter: I. Valerie Chevalier: I would have but I know that I consciously didn't. Carlene Mccain: I mean it's just like the paper I don't know what I really needed the paper for. Valerie Chevalier: True. Carlene Mccain: Um, because I've got this laptop. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: Standard, I just used it 'cause it's literally right in front of Valerie Chevalier. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: I wanna see the output files Valerie Chevalier: Well Catherine Slaughter: from Valerie Chevalier: it looks Catherine Slaughter: these Valerie Chevalier: really professional. Catherine Slaughter: um, from the digital paper. I wanna see wh Valerie Chevalier: I know. Catherine Slaughter: wh what my my handwriting looks like digitized because my handwriting is crap. Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Catherine Slaughter: I mean, Gina Vanegas: that's Catherine Slaughter: just Gina Vanegas: it. Catherine Slaughter: to see what it looks like in P_D_F_ format or something. Gina Vanegas: Usually I would do a lot more doodling too but I didn't because Valerie Chevalier: I know, I felt like I needed to be professional so I didn't like draw all over my paper and stuff. Okay, well not entirely, but still, I doodled less than I usually do. Catherine Slaughter: T I I'm curious about what the de-briefing is gonna be like. You know, like what is the uh what exactly we're looking for here. Carlene Mccain: So is this all we need to get through? Catherine Slaughter: I dunno, I'm not sure Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: what the Valerie Chevalier: guess. Catherine Slaughter: new ideas found i is about. Valerie Chevalier: Um. Gina Vanegas: New ideas. Valerie Chevalier: It Carlene Mccain: Is it Valerie Chevalier: did it just say in an email that we need to discuss that? Catherine Slaughter: Well, that's the thing I got i in the email I got this PowerPoint file but this slide was just Valerie Chevalier: That slide Catherine Slaughter: there, Valerie Chevalier: was like that? Catherine Slaughter: mm-hmm. I didn't change this one at all. Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Valerie Chevalier: Well. Catherine Slaughter: Um Gina Vanegas: I guess Catherine Slaughter: ch Gina Vanegas: we're on the right track. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah well. Carlene Mccain: Any new ideas with regard to Catherine Slaughter: W Carlene Mccain: remote control concepts? Gina Vanegas: No, Catherine Slaughter: I kinda Gina Vanegas: none. Catherine Slaughter: like Valerie Chevalier: Uh Catherine Slaughter: th Valerie Chevalier: I think they still do their job. Gina Vanegas: I Catherine Slaughter: Yeah Gina Vanegas: think Catherine Slaughter: you Gina Vanegas: they're Catherine Slaughter: can't Gina Vanegas: fine actually. Valerie Chevalier: I am thinking outside the little square box though, with literally Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: in like form I don't Gina Vanegas: Yeah, maybe a s a circle would be alright, Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: different. Catherine Slaughter: Does kinda make you wonder, I mean, how much can you do with a remote control? It's like inventing a new car. Yeah Valerie Chevalier: It's still Catherine Slaughter: yeah, you Valerie Chevalier: gotta Catherine Slaughter: can Valerie Chevalier: be technically car shaped or it won't fit on the road, you know? Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: Don't know. Catherine Slaughter: Hmm. Um. Carlene Mccain: What is Catherine Slaughter: 'Kay. Carlene Mccain: that? Our limited Valerie Chevalier: Kind Carlene Mccain: ability Catherine Slaughter: So Valerie Chevalier: of. Catherine Slaughter: this Carlene Mccain: to Catherine Slaughter: was Carlene Mccain: think outside Catherine Slaughter: other Gina Vanegas: Are we back Catherine Slaughter: costs. Carlene Mccain: the box? Gina Vanegas: into Catherine Slaughter: I dunno. Gina Vanegas: project Catherine Slaughter: I think this Gina Vanegas: mood? Catherine Slaughter: is Valerie Chevalier: Oh, how long was our meeting supposed to be? How much time Catherine Slaughter: forty Valerie Chevalier: do we have left? Catherine Slaughter: ish I I I mm we should go on a bit yeah about the project eval, um. I dunno about you guys but I felt like a bit under-stimulated on the whole thing. Like, Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Catherine Slaughter: what like you know what am I really doing, you know what is Valerie Chevalier: Yeah, at the beginning it started out and I felt actually like under pressure like the first couple Catherine Slaughter: Yep. Valerie Chevalier: were taking a lot of work and I was like had like all Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: this brainstorming I was doing and then suddenly I was like well it's just another two minute presentation that you guys don't really care about Carlene Mccain: Why? Valerie Chevalier: anyway so Catherine Slaughter: Hey. Valerie Chevalier: type away. Carlene Mccain: Huh Valerie Chevalier: You Carlene Mccain: I think it was the real. Valerie Chevalier: know, you know what I mean like we all sort Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: of knew where we were headed with it so it didn't feel Carlene Mccain: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: Definitely when Valerie Chevalier: like it mattered anymore. Gina Vanegas: when I first filled out the questionnaire I was marking it probably higher in terms of how much I had to Valerie Chevalier: Mm-hmm. Gina Vanegas: how much I stressed over it and then by the time I got to the last one I was like, you know, not Valerie Chevalier: Whatever. Gina Vanegas: very much. Catherine Slaughter: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: Think it was also realisation of you basically just copy and paste what's given to Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Carlene Mccain: you into Valerie Chevalier: Very Carlene Mccain: your presentation Valerie Chevalier: much, yeah. Carlene Mccain: which uh wasn't so clear to Valerie Chevalier at the beginning. Catherine Slaughter: I actually Gina Vanegas: Mm-hmm. Catherine Slaughter: didn't do that at all though, every single one I a all the presentations I either added slides or edited 'em. I Carlene Mccain: Oh Catherine Slaughter: di Carlene Mccain: I added like five slides Catherine Slaughter: Oh. Carlene Mccain: too, Valerie Chevalier: See I only got Gina Vanegas: Did Carlene Mccain: but Gina Vanegas: you Valerie Chevalier: blank Carlene Mccain: I Gina Vanegas: really? Valerie Chevalier: ones. Gina Vanegas: I just got blank ones and Catherine Slaughter: What? Really? Valerie Chevalier: My slides were all blank, they'd have a title maybe Carlene Mccain: Yeah, mine Valerie Chevalier: and Carlene Mccain: too. Valerie Chevalier: they were just empty. Gina Vanegas: Valerie Chevalier too. Catherine Slaughter: Did they not have they didn't like uh mine yeah they didn't come like this? Like with this was what it looks like. Valerie Chevalier: Like Catherine Slaughter: This is Valerie Chevalier: with Catherine Slaughter: what Valerie Chevalier: those Catherine Slaughter: that Valerie Chevalier: words Catherine Slaughter: looked Valerie Chevalier: already Catherine Slaughter: like, Valerie Chevalier: on it? Catherine Slaughter: literally, just Valerie Chevalier: No. Catherine Slaughter: like Carlene Mccain: No. Catherine Slaughter: that. Interesting. Valerie Chevalier: I wondered why yours always looked so more complicated. Catherine Slaughter: Uh-huh huh huh. Gina Vanegas: I deleted slides. Valerie Chevalier: I think I added a slide one time. Carlene Mccain: I added many slides every time Valerie Chevalier: Hey with the whole new background Carlene Mccain: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: being innovative, Gina Vanegas: That Valerie Chevalier: yeah Gina Vanegas: was pretty cool, Valerie Chevalier: that was Gina Vanegas: it Valerie Chevalier: class. Gina Vanegas: was a high moment of Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: the whole experiment. Carlene Mccain: Um. Catherine Slaughter: Interesting. Any other thoughts come to mind? Valerie Chevalier: I wanna know how our product would fare. I Gina Vanegas: I Valerie Chevalier: can't Gina Vanegas: think Valerie Chevalier: just Gina Vanegas: it Valerie Chevalier: leave Gina Vanegas: would fail, Valerie Chevalier: it there. Gina Vanegas: I think it'd be a Valerie Chevalier: I Gina Vanegas: huge Valerie Chevalier: think Gina Vanegas: disaster, Valerie Chevalier: it would take extensive Gina Vanegas: especially Valerie Chevalier: marketing, Gina Vanegas: if it looks like that. Valerie Chevalier: okay, an apple with a red button on top, even I am sceptical. But you know the whole Carlene Mccain: Even you. Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Gina Vanegas: I don't we kind of designed it to look little bit like a face. Valerie Chevalier: I know it Catherine Slaughter: Yeah but Valerie Chevalier: is. Gina Vanegas: It's a happy face. Carlene Mccain: Actually that looked a lot Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Carlene Mccain: more like a tongue from previous to uh fr Catherine Slaughter: Builds. Carlene Mccain: some other design uh modifications. Catherine Slaughter: Mm. Carlene Mccain: I hope you appreciate the uh incorporation of some tin foil from a uh Valerie Chevalier: I Carlene Mccain: random Kit-Kat Valerie Chevalier: I noticed Carlene Mccain: bar that Valerie Chevalier: that. Carlene Mccain: happened to be consumed. Valerie Chevalier: By accident. Catherine Slaughter: Interesting. Valerie Chevalier: Well huh. An interesting day all in all Catherine Slaughter: Uh, Gina Vanegas: Yeah, Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: yeah, Valerie Chevalier: would Gina Vanegas: it's Valerie Chevalier: say. Catherine Slaughter: I'd Gina Vanegas: uh Catherine Slaughter: say so. Carlene Mccain: So again I reiterate my question of how different we are comp compared to the other groups, especially between culture groups and Valerie Chevalier: I Carlene Mccain: what not. Catherine Slaughter: Mm, Valerie Chevalier: know. Catherine Slaughter: I know. Carlene Mccain: Mm. Catherine Slaughter: It Gina Vanegas: I Catherine Slaughter: seemed Gina Vanegas: wanna Catherine Slaughter: like Gina Vanegas: see Catherine Slaughter: everything Gina Vanegas: a Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: flowed pretty logically. You know from the the the basics Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: to the conce although the whole concepts thing, the whole concepts phase, I don't think I really understood like the concept. Well Gina Vanegas okay Valerie Chevalier: 'Cause Catherine Slaughter: the notion Valerie Chevalier: it's such a Catherine Slaughter: of Valerie Chevalier: functional item. Catherine Slaughter: yeah I mean i it's not like I have a concept of a mug's material, it's just it is what it is. Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: You know, maybe i rather than concepts i it should be th thought of we sh I I thought of I thought of rather than in terms of concepts I thought of it in terms of um like proposed idea. And Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Catherine Slaughter: then the final would be like th the actual specified prototype or whatever, I dunno. But. Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Catherine Slaughter: All in all it's kinda interesting. Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Gina Vanegas: So we have more slides or? Catherine Slaughter: No just this closing one. No we've established that the costs weren't really within budget, but we could s you know Valerie Chevalier: We Catherine Slaughter: do Valerie Chevalier: got Catherine Slaughter: it Valerie Chevalier: it to be. Catherine Slaughter: We Valerie Chevalier: Like Catherine Slaughter: did Valerie Chevalier: cutting corners. Catherine Slaughter: the project evaluation based on um Sarah's evaluation of on Valerie Chevalier: Kind Catherine Slaughter: off switches Valerie Chevalier: of, though it was Catherine Slaughter: and Valerie Chevalier: really technically an evaluation of the product, not the project in general. Catherine Slaughter: Mm. Gina Vanegas: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: Which Catherine Slaughter: True. Valerie Chevalier: I'm not sure is the same thing, at the time that just i made more sense, but I could see if they were really asking about us. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. 'Cause we di we had a thu think about it. Um. Yeah. And it's all recorded, woo-hoo. Yeah Valerie Chevalier: Yay. Catherine Slaughter: what Gina Vanegas: Hmm. Catherine Slaughter: I'm gonna I'm gonna put um I'm supposed to do this final report thing at the end so I'll put all that into the final report as well, or as much as seems like maybe not like the articles and stuff, like Gina Vanegas: I Catherine Slaughter: because and if and so forth, but I'll put most of it in the reports. Gina Vanegas: It'd be so cool Valerie Chevalier: Make Gina Vanegas: if Valerie Chevalier: it Gina Vanegas: we Valerie Chevalier: sound Gina Vanegas: get Valerie Chevalier: eloquent. Gina Vanegas: a copy of the recording. Valerie Chevalier: Oh, I have to done I've I've done Catherine Slaughter: Nice. Valerie Chevalier: transcription before and it's really ridiculous how many words people say like Catherine Slaughter: Oh Valerie Chevalier: just Catherine Slaughter: yeah. Valerie Chevalier: in the middle of their sentences like that that mean nothing. Catherine Slaughter: There's a whole branch of psychology that looks into that, psycholinguistics. Carlene Mccain: What Gina Vanegas: Really. Carlene Mccain: the uhs Valerie Chevalier: There's a guy Carlene Mccain: and Valerie Chevalier: studying Carlene Mccain: the Valerie Chevalier: it here, yeah, he's studying ums Gina Vanegas: Filler Valerie Chevalier: and Gina Vanegas: words Valerie Chevalier: ahs Gina Vanegas: or? Valerie Chevalier: or something. Catherine Slaughter: Yep, they're called Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: um disfluencies. Gina Vanegas: Disfluencies. Valerie Chevalier: That's a good word for it. Catherine Slaughter: Yeah we like our fancy phrases and terminologies for things. Valerie Chevalier: Just add some prefixes, sounds classier. Catherine Slaughter: Exactly uh I will save this into the project Gina Vanegas: I find Catherine Slaughter: documents. Gina Vanegas: myself hitting the send and receive button on the email a lot, Valerie Chevalier: I, Carlene Mccain: Mm. Gina Vanegas: just Catherine Slaughter: Yeah. Valerie Chevalier: yeah, Gina Vanegas: out Catherine Slaughter: Oh Gina Vanegas: of boredom, Catherine Slaughter: yeah. Valerie Chevalier: pretty compulsively Gina Vanegas: like c come on Valerie Chevalier: during Catherine Slaughter: Yeah Valerie Chevalier: meetings, Catherine Slaughter: I know. Valerie Chevalier: like, Gina Vanegas: gimme something. Valerie Chevalier: yeah. Catherine Slaughter: Come on give Valerie Chevalier some information. Well to be fair we're we're hooked we're all hooked on the internet, Valerie Chevalier: Yeah, Catherine Slaughter: so I mean I Valerie Chevalier: we Catherine Slaughter: do the Valerie Chevalier: are addicts. Carlene Mccain: That's scary yeah? Gina Vanegas: It is scary. Valerie Chevalier: Mm. Carlene Mccain: Well just around that eight or or Catherine Slaughter: I Carlene Mccain: nine Catherine Slaughter: know, imagine Carlene Mccain: people Catherine Slaughter: we went Carlene Mccain: that Catherine Slaughter: the Carlene Mccain: are Catherine Slaughter: first ten y fifteen years of our lives without the internet. It's only in the last ten that we're like where's Valerie Chevalier: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: the internet? I mean, you know, it just in the past five we've gone Valerie Chevalier: I yeah. Catherine Slaughter: from twenty eight eight modems to broadband all the time. Carlene Mccain: Dude, Valerie Chevalier: True. Carlene Mccain: I think we've had internet for like eighteen years. Catherine Slaughter: No we have Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: but I not in the sense Valerie Chevalier: yeah. Catherine Slaughter: that it's so un you know Gina Vanegas: Yeah. Catherine Slaughter: uh ubiquitous Valerie Chevalier: But it's not regular I mean my grandparents had it in the eighties and I got it in ninety four, but still. Gina Vanegas: It's crazy. Valerie Chevalier: Uh-huh. Gina Vanegas: So Carlene Mccain: In the eighties? Valerie Chevalier: My um grammy does computer science back in the States and so they had um an E_D_U_ and gov network. Catherine Slaughter: Mm. Valerie Chevalier: There's basically the fundamental structures, but it wasn't uh household to household yet Carlene Mccain: Right. Valerie Chevalier: because it hadn't been Carlene Mccain: Yeah, it was to the like seven Valerie Chevalier: partitioned Carlene Mccain: universities Valerie Chevalier: off and stuff, Carlene Mccain: or something. Valerie Chevalier: yeah that was him. Carlene Mccain: You guys ready to celebrate? Catherine Slaughter: Yeah that's Valerie Chevalier: Apparently, Catherine Slaughter: our last step. Valerie Chevalier: does that include Catherine Slaughter: Celebration. Valerie Chevalier: like champagne or something exciting? Gina Vanegas: Should. Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: 'Kay Valerie Chevalier: think Catherine Slaughter: I guess Valerie Chevalier: so. Catherine Slaughter: we can probably call that meeting to an end Valerie Chevalier: I Catherine Slaughter: for Valerie Chevalier: think Catherine Slaughter: the most Valerie Chevalier: that's Catherine Slaughter: part. Valerie Chevalier: a closer. Catherine Slaughter: Cool. Gina Vanegas: Has it been forty minutes or whatever? this has been long enough. Carlene Mccain: Celebrate. Catherine Slaughter: Where do you find that? Valerie Chevalier: I have no idea. Gina Vanegas: Is that the only song you have? Carlene Mccain: There is another one. Catherine Slaughter: Is this one of those media player? Carlene Mccain: Huh? Yep. Catherine Slaughter: W oh. Gina Vanegas: That's awesome. Catherine Slaughter: The default track. Gina Vanegas: Maybe I have Catherine Slaughter: I Gina Vanegas: a Catherine Slaughter: thought Gina Vanegas: different Catherine Slaughter: it was Gina Vanegas: one. Catherine Slaughter: David Burns, look into the eyeball. That's one that seems to be shipping with it uh shipped with for a while, maybe this is the new version. Valerie Chevalier: So is that a close? Catherine Slaughter: Yeah, I guess we'll call that Valerie Chevalier: Okay, Catherine Slaughter: a a Valerie Chevalier: that's Catherine Slaughter: doner. Valerie Chevalier: the end of the meeting. Catherine Slaughter: Fab. Valerie Chevalier: Thank you gentlemen. I feel like I'm signing off.	Catherine Slaughter opened the meeting by reviewing the decisions from the previous meeting (to use voice recognition instead of the touch screen, to hide the complicated features, and to start building the prototype). Carlene Mccain and Gina Vanegas then presented the prototype that featured voice recognition, interchangeable cases, visible light, and a soft casing material. Catherine Slaughter presented what each component cost, which showed that the project was going over the alotted budget; the group decided to remove the solar panel. Valerie Chevalier presented an evaluation of the prototype and showed that the prototype had met many of the initial goals. The group then evaluated the project process and discussed their effectiveness as a group. Catherine Slaughter summarized the proceedings of the meeting which will go into a final report, along with comments made during the project evaluation.	4	amisum	train
Viola Lowry: Okay. Hi everybody and welcome to our kick-off meeting for our new product that we're gonna be designing. Um I'm Mandy and I'm Viola Lowry. And I know all your names again, Courtney, Pamela Viveiros: Yep. Viola Lowry: Fenella and Amber. Josie Diaz: Yep. Viola Lowry: Alright. Okay, so first let's go through this PowerPoint. I wonder what button I press? Susanne Prost: Just do it on the arrow. Viola Lowry: Yeah, or how about I just click? Okay, here is our agenda for this meeting. Um we're gonna start with our opening which was our introductions. We're gonna know other a bit better. Um tool training, we're going to, I guess, figure out what to do on this project with our individual roles. Um we're gonna make a project plan and then have some time for discussion and close up the meeting. Okay, here is our project. We're gonna make a new remote control that's um original, trendy and also user-friendly. And how we are going to do it is each of us is going to um We're gonna have discuss the functional design first, how is it gonna be used, what's the actual goal here, it has to operate T_V_, blah blah blah. And we're going to do individual work on that and then meet. Same thing with conceptual design. Just the basic overview of the project and then we're going to do individual work, meet. That's pretty much the the whole process for today. And then the detailed design, just more in-depth, get the actual schematics of the remote. Okay. Alright. First we're gonna start off by using our tools. And the whiteboard thing, do you guys wanna give that a try even though the ink wasn't working or do you wanna do it on here. Josie Diaz: I think we should forgo the Pamela Viveiros: We Josie Diaz: can't Pamela Viveiros: could Josie Diaz: actually see what we're. Pamela Viveiros: Yeah, we could on. Viola Lowry: Alright, let's go forward then. Um right now so we're all gonna draw our favourite animal and then sum up our favourite characteristics of that animal. Even if you are not a good drawer like Pamela Viveiros. Alright. Josie Diaz: Artistic skills, nil. Susanne Prost: Fine. Viola Lowry: Um. Viola Lowry: Bless you. Pamela Viveiros: Oh, thanks. Josie Diaz: I draw like I'm in grade five. Viola Lowry: Oh do I. Viola Lowry: 'Kay, about one more minute. Viola Lowry: Okay. Okay. And who would like to start us off? Pamela Viveiros: I'll go. Viola Lowry: Alright. Pamela Viveiros: Um this is my picture. I drew fish I like fish, because uh, you know, their whole water-vascular system thing. It's pretty cool, and um they've got a pretty good habitat and they are pretty sometimes, sometimes vicious but that's okay. Yeah. Viola Lowry: Only if they're piranhas. Pamela Viveiros: Yeah, they they're easy, you know. Yeah. Viola Lowry: Alright. Who wants to go next? Josie Diaz: I'll go. I drew a kitty. It's pretty much impossible to tell that's a cat, but Pamela Viveiros: No I Susanne Prost: No, Josie Diaz: I Pamela Viveiros: I Susanne Prost: I kne Pamela Viveiros: see Josie Diaz: love Susanne Prost: I Pamela Viveiros: it. Viola Lowry: No, Susanne Prost: knew. Josie Diaz: cats. Viola Lowry: it looks like a cat. Josie Diaz: I love cats because they're independent, uh they pretty much know what they want, they get it, they move on. Viola Lowry: I love cats, too. Susanne Prost: Yeah. Viola Lowry: I'm a cat person. Pamela Viveiros: I'm allergic to cats. Susanne Prost: Ah. Viola Lowry: Uh. Josie Diaz: I'm allergic to cats, too. Pamela Viveiros: Oh, okay. Viola Lowry: If Susanne Prost: In Viola Lowry: you're Susanne Prost: my next Viola Lowry: around one Susanne Prost: life. Viola Lowry: I had a roommate who was um allergic, but if she was around my cat forever she became used to Pamela Viveiros: Yeah, Viola Lowry: it, you Pamela Viveiros: yeah, Viola Lowry: know, Pamela Viveiros: if you're Viola Lowry: it's weird. Pamela Viveiros: around them for a long period of time Josie Diaz: I still Viola Lowry: Okay. Josie Diaz: can't sleep with them in my room. Pamela Viveiros: Oh, yeah, this summer I, oh I had to live with cats. It was crazy. Yeah. Viola Lowry: Okay, Fenella? Susanne Prost: Um, I drew a badger. Pamela Viveiros: Cool. Josie Diaz: Yay. Viola Lowry: Badger. Susanne Prost: Well, yeah. Viola Lowry: Good choice. Why a Susanne Prost: Uh Viola Lowry: badger? Susanne Prost: I dunno, they're grumpy and nocturnal and Josie Diaz: Are you trying to suggest something? Susanne Prost: Well, a little bit like the Yes. Um. And then, if you know Wind in the Willows badger. Pamela Viveiros: Oh, okay. Susanne Prost: Yeah and then uh I don't know if you know Brian. Viola Lowry: Alright. Susanne Prost: Um, that kind of books. Badgers are cool in that one too. Viola Lowry: Okay. And I'm last. 'Kay. Look at my sad sad Pamela Viveiros: No, Viola Lowry: giraffe. Pamela Viveiros: that's good. Viola Lowry: No, no, no, it ends up looking like some kind of a dinosaur, but whatever. I don't know even much about giraffes, but I just love the way they look. They're just such odd creatures, you know. I I like that they're so unique and individual, I guess. I don't know much about their behaviour or anything, though. Only seen a couple Pamela Viveiros: You Viola Lowry: in Pamela Viveiros: don't Viola Lowry: zoos. Pamela Viveiros: really have to, I Viola Lowry: Yeah, Pamela Viveiros: mean, Viola Lowry: but you can Pamela Viveiros: if you Viola Lowry: appreciate Pamela Viveiros: like 'em Viola Lowry: the way they look. Okay. Alright. Guess we're getting straight back into business here. Um the selling price for our remote is going to be twenty-five Euro, and our profit aim is fifty million Euro. We're going to make this an international product marketed in the States, in Europe, in Asia. And um our production cost to make that profit is gonna be a max of twelve fifty Euro per remote. Okay. So we're gonna talk for a little while. Um here are some topics that we might be able to discuss. Expe our experiences with remote controls um, our first ideas about this new remote, anything that you can bring to the table for this project. So. Susanne Prost: Now? Viola Lowry: Yeah. You wanna start us off? Anybody have anything to offer? Josie Diaz: Well, we wanna make a multifunctional remote, right? Viola Lowry: Right. Josie Diaz: One remote for everything. Susanne Prost: And Pamela Viveiros: Right. Susanne Prost: everything being Wait, Josie Diaz: Um. Susanne Prost: we have what, sound system, T_V_, D_V_D_, V_H_S_, uh Josie Diaz: I think they'll be phasing Susanne Prost: TiVo? Josie Diaz: V_H_S_ Pamela Viveiros: Yeah, TiVo. Josie Diaz: out shortly. Viola Lowry: TiVo. Susanne Prost: But it's still there, so Josie Diaz: Okay. Susanne Prost: if po if we're gonna do it Pamela Viveiros: It needs to be compatible 'cause universal remote controls are never universal. Viola Lowry: They're never universal. That's right. Esp e especially if you buy a a not big product, D_V_D_ player, say, usually it doesn't work Susanne Prost: Or if Viola Lowry: if Susanne Prost: it's Viola Lowry: it's Susanne Prost: not Viola Lowry: not Susanne Prost: like a Viola Lowry: one Susanne Prost: Sony, Viola Lowry: of the Susanne Prost: if it's like Viola Lowry: Yeah. Susanne Prost: a I Viola Lowry: Yeah. Susanne Prost: don't know. Viola Lowry: Something Josie Diaz: So Viola Lowry: from Josie Diaz: we'll have Viola Lowry: Sam's Josie Diaz: to figure Viola Lowry: club. Josie Diaz: it how to cover all the different variances in signals. Viola Lowry: Yeah. Pamela Viveiros: And what we need an insanely good instruction booklet, because you always have to reconfigure all your Viola Lowry: Yeah. Pamela Viveiros: contraptions to go with the remote anyways. Viola Lowry: 'Kay, and um another thing that I think is important is the d the design of the product, how it feels in your hand. If it's just flat and kind of boring th those don't Nobody wants to buy those any more. They want the ergonomic ones. Pamela Viveiros: They want like the flashy Viola Lowry: Yeah. Pamela Viveiros: lights. Oh like this came Viola Lowry: Ones Pamela Viveiros: from Las Viola Lowry: that Pamela Viveiros: Vegas. Viola Lowry: ones that look high-tech, too. Susanne Prost: But at the same time are simple. Pamela Viveiros: Mm Viola Lowry: Right. Pamela Viveiros: yeah. Viola Lowry: So that Josie Diaz: What Viola Lowry: people Josie Diaz: about something Viola Lowry: like my mother Josie Diaz: with the curvature Viola Lowry: can use it. Josie Diaz: like that matches the curvature of a hand? Viola Lowry: Yeah. 'Kay. Anybody have any experiences with remote controls that they can remember that Susanne Prost: Just bad ones. Viola Lowry: Yeah. That's true. Susanne Prost: Um. Josie Diaz: What kinda battery would we want to use? Because battery Susanne Prost: D Josie Diaz: changing is Susanne Prost: Double Josie Diaz: usually Susanne Prost: A_. Pamela Viveiros: Double A_. Josie Diaz: Okay. Viola Lowry: Do some of them use triple A_s though? Pamela Viveiros: Yeah some use triple A_s. Susanne Prost: Some Pamela Viveiros: So Viola Lowry: Okay. Susanne Prost: but Pamela Viveiros: double or triple? Susanne Prost: Yeah, I guess then it's If we need to do triple A_ we can, but most people usually have double A_s around. Viola Lowry: Okay. Yeah. But that has to do with the size of it too. Susanne Prost: Right. Josie Diaz: Yeah. Viola Lowry: Well, w as long as we know that issue is Pamela Viveiros: Yeah, if we Viola Lowry: Here Pamela Viveiros: want it Viola Lowry: we Pamela Viveiros: to Viola Lowry: can Pamela Viveiros: be more thin, then we'd probably wanna go with a triple Viola Lowry: Triple Pamela Viveiros: A_. Viola Lowry: A. Josie Diaz: Can Viola Lowry: But Josie Diaz: you with a small lithium battery? Viola Lowry: it's okay, we don't have to decide about it now, just as long as we remember battery type and size is important. Hey. Anything else? Alright. Moving along. Oh, we're closing the meeting. Next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes. Um the I_D_, which is who? Okay, you're going to think about the working design. What do you think that means? Okay. And U_I_D_, Susanne Prost: Mm-hmm. Viola Lowry: the technical fun functions design, making sure it does everything that we need the remote to do, the functionality of it, operating all those different things. Okay. And the marketing person, that's Courtney, is going to do the user requirements specification. I guess that means specifying um what exactly the user is going to be looking for. Right? Pamela Viveiros: Right. Viola Lowry: I would think so. Okay. And you're gonna get more specific instructions emailed to you in just a little while. Okay, so does anybody have anything they wanna say before we close the meeting? Okay. This meeting is officially over.	Viola Lowry introduced the project to the group and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. She then introduced a tool training exercise to acquaint the group with the meeting-room tools and to help them get to know each other. Viola Lowry then presented the project budget to the group and presented the projected profit aim, the production cost, and the price point of the device. The group then began a discussion about features of remote controls and their own experiences with them. They discussed making the remote universally compatible and ergonomically-designed, and types of batteries to use. Viola Lowry instructed Josie Diaz to work on the internal working design of the device. Susanne Prost was told to work on the technical function design, and Pamela Viveiros was instructed to research the needs of users.	4	amisum	train
Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This the functional design. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, back, previous. So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? Porsha Williams: I don't Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. Porsha Williams: mind going first. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? Porsha Williams: Yeah, it's in the should be in the m Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: Project. Barbara Halter: Do you want us to do our PowerPoints now Porsha Williams: You Barbara Halter: or Porsha Williams: know you could you could do it yourself actually. Antonietta Duncan: Oh. Lucy Pierce: Did you send it? Antonietta Duncan: Save Porsha Williams: Put it Antonietta Duncan: it Porsha Williams: in Antonietta Duncan: in the Porsha Williams: Project Antonietta Duncan: project documents. Porsha Williams: Documents, yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Antonietta Duncan: Mm-mm-mm. This one? Porsha Williams: Sure. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: Yeah. Lucy Pierce: Okay. Porsha Williams: Okay. Lucy Pierce: Great. Porsha Williams: Um well, the function of a remote control, as what uh we've been informed, is basically to send messages to the television set, for example, switch it on, switch it off, go to this channel, go to channel nine, turn volume up, etcetera. Um some of the considerations is just um for example the what it needs to include it's the numbers, you know, zero to nine, so you can move to a channel, the power button on slash off, the channel going up and down, volume going up and down, and then mute, a mute function. And then functions for V_H_S_, D_V_D_, for example, play, rewind, fast-forward, stop, pause, enter. And enter would be for like, you know, the menus. And then other menus for D_V_ as well as T_V_, whether that means like um we can go and decide the brightness of the screen, things like that, all the more complicated functions of menus. And we can decide if that's what we want, um if we Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: want to include that on the remote, if that's something that would stay on the T_V_ itself, for example. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: These are two examples. Um and you can see on the left, it's got a lot more buttons, and I don't know if you can read it, but it says, step, go to, freeze, um slow, repeat, program, mute, and so those are some of the buttons and so it gives you an idea of s one example. And then on the right, it's a lot more simpler, it's got volume, it's got the play the like circle set, which is play, rewind, but it's also what is fast-forward is also like next on a menu. So you have functions that are d uh duplicating. Antonietta Duncan: Right. Porsha Williams: And you have a mute button and then the numbers and the eject, and the power button. So that gives you two different kinds, a more complex and more simple version. Okay. Antonietta Duncan: Ready. Porsha Williams: And then lastly, it's just the questions that we want to consider like what functions do we want it to include, and how simple, complex it should be? And what functions it needs to complete. Uh, what are needed to complete insulation process, 'cause, you know, that's something that also has to be considered and it's gonna be hopefully a one-time thing, when you set it up it should be set to go, but we have to include the functions that can allow it to set up i in the first place. So that's it. Antonietta Duncan: Alright. Very good presentation. Thank you. You speak with such authority on the matter. Porsha Williams: Mm. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: Left. Antonietta Duncan: Who would like to um follow that one up? Now, that we've Barbara Halter: I Antonietta Duncan: discussed Barbara Halter: can go. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Do you want Barbara Halter to run it or you Barbara Halter: Yeah, Antonietta Duncan: wanna Barbara Halter: you should run it. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Functional requirements. Barbara Halter: Mm yes. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. Antonietta Duncan: Alright. Now we have Courtney with the functional requirements. Barbara Halter: Yes, okay so we tested a hundred subjects in our lab, and we just we watched them and we also made them fill out a questionnaire, and we found that the users are not typically happy with current remote controls. Seventy five percent think they're ugly. want are willing to more, which is good news for us um if we make look fancier, and basically w we just need something that really I mean there's some other points up there, but they it needs to be snazzy and it but yet simple. So that's really what we need to do. Porsha Williams: Wait. Barbara Halter: And we need we need it to be simple, yet it needs to be high-tech looking. So Porsha Williams: And that meaning what? Barbara Halter: Like They like I guess use the buttons a lot. Porsha Williams: Okay. Barbara Halter: Yeah. I don't know. It's from my uh research. Porsha Williams: Right. Antonietta Duncan: Okay, what Barbara Halter: My Antonietta Duncan: do you Barbara Halter: team Antonietta Duncan: m Barbara Halter: wasn't very Porsha Williams: Only Barbara Halter: clear. Porsha Williams: use Antonietta Duncan: Oh, Porsha Williams: ten Antonietta Duncan: I'm Porsha Williams: percent Antonietta Duncan: sorry. Porsha Williams: of the Barbara Halter: That's Porsha Williams: buttons. Barbara Halter: okay. Antonietta Duncan: What do you mean by um the current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user, like they Barbara Halter: I Antonietta Duncan: have to press Barbara Halter: I Antonietta Duncan: the buttons. Barbara Halter: think it's like the engineering versus user, Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Barbara Halter: whereas like the engineering she showed that the engineering ones are more complex Antonietta Duncan: Oh, right. Barbara Halter: and users don't really need all of the Antonietta Duncan: The Barbara Halter: buttons Antonietta Duncan: buttons. Barbara Halter: that are contained on there, Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Barbara Halter: because they only use ten percent of the buttons really. Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Okay. Lucy Pierce: We only use ten per cent of our brains. Barbara Halter: Good point. Antonietta Duncan: It works. Barbara Halter: It's a necessary evil. Lucy Pierce: yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Ready for the next slide? Barbara Halter: Mm-hmm. And so people say that they typically lose it, as you yourself know, because you probably lose your remote control all the time, Antonietta Duncan: Hmm. Barbara Halter: much like any small appliance Porsha Williams: Lost. Barbara Halter: like a cellphone, and they we need something simple, because most people, well thirty four percent say that it's just too much time to learn how to use a new one, and we don't want to go we don't want to vary too far from the normal standard Porsha Williams: S Barbara Halter: remote, but I mean they do need to be able to identify it, and R_S_I_, I'm not very sure what that is. Antonietta Duncan: It's okay. It's Barbara Halter: Yes, Antonietta Duncan: very important. Barbara Halter: it is important for the remote control world. Porsha Williams: Wait, is that like your ergonomics Barbara Halter: Sh Porsha Williams: like your hand movements or something? Antonietta Duncan: Could be, Barbara Halter: Uh Antonietta Duncan: yeah. Barbara Halter: possibly. Lucy Pierce: Do we really need t to provide more information on Porsha Williams: Like Lucy Pierce: what R_S_I_ is? Antonietta Duncan: Oh. Barbara Halter: Uh yeah, that's what my web site said, I Porsha Williams: Channel, volume, power. Barbara Halter: don't Antonietta Duncan: I think that's Barbara Halter: know. Antonietta Duncan: a pretty good guess though. Barbara Halter: Yeah, I would assume so. I Porsha Williams: It's Barbara Halter: think Porsha Williams: like Barbara Halter: we're Porsha Williams: if you're Barbara Halter: supposed Porsha Williams: holding Barbara Halter: to know it Porsha Williams: it Barbara Halter: as remote control experts. Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Barbara Halter: But Antonietta Duncan: It's Barbara Halter: also Antonietta Duncan: okay. Barbara Halter: s so the channel, the volume and the power buttons are the most important on our company website you can find like the specific statistics concerning to how much each button is used, but those are the definitely the top ones. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Next slide? Barbara Halter: Yes. And so personally I think that we need a modern eye-catching design, but it it really needs to be simple. So saying from y your slide, your presentation, the engineering versus the user-specified remotes, I think that we should go with something that's more user-friendly. Antonietta Duncan: User-friendly. Barbara Halter: Where the engineering ones, the boxes, tend to make it look more complicated than it really is. Um the functionality of the product really needs to be considered as to like what type of buttons do we really need on it. And it needs to be open to a wide range of consumers, so even though we need a small number of buttons, we also need to take in like are most people going to be using it for a D_V_D_ player, a TiVo, what what exactly are we using it for, as well as the age range. So we need a hip, but not a corny marketing scheme for promoting our product. And also we found our team found that speech recognition is it's like an up-and-coming thing they really consumers are really interested in it, and since our findings found that people are willing to pay more money for a remote for it to be more high-class Antonietta Duncan: And so just Barbara Halter: we could Antonietta Duncan: to Barbara Halter: consider it. Antonietta Duncan: just to clarify by speech recognition you mean they would say, channel five, and the thing would Barbara Halter: I Antonietta Duncan: go Barbara Halter: guess Antonietta Duncan: to channel Barbara Halter: so, Antonietta Duncan: five? Barbara Halter: yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: to just say, where are you, and thing beeps, you know. Barbara Halter: Yeah, I guess Antonietta Duncan: Oh, Barbara Halter: we can interpret Antonietta Duncan: that'd Barbara Halter: it Antonietta Duncan: be Barbara Halter: like, Antonietta Duncan: lovely. Barbara Halter: we can just try out different types of speech Porsha Williams: Yeah. Barbara Halter: recognition within our Antonietta Duncan: Didn't Barbara Halter: remote Antonietta Duncan: they Barbara Halter: programme. Antonietta Duncan: um didn't our rival companies manufacture a remote that you would press the button on the T_V_ and it would the remote would beep so if you Porsha Williams: It's Antonietta Duncan: have Porsha Williams: kinda Antonietta Duncan: lost Porsha Williams: like what Antonietta Duncan: it Porsha Williams: the remote phone used to do. Antonietta Duncan: Mm. Oh, yeah, that's Porsha Williams: You Antonietta Duncan: true. Porsha Williams: know like Antonietta Duncan: We could Porsha Williams: go Antonietta Duncan: definitely Porsha Williams: to the Antonietta Duncan: include Porsha Williams: base. Antonietta Duncan: that if we wanted to. Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: If it's within our price. Okay. Are we ready for our last presentation, Amber? Lucy Pierce: Yeah, I'm just trying to move it. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Lucy Pierce: 'Kay. I think it should be there, Porsha Williams: Working Lucy Pierce: working Porsha Williams: design. Lucy Pierce: design. Antonietta Duncan: There we go. 'Kay. Lucy Pierce: 'Kay. Uh I didn't get a chance Antonietta Duncan: Oh Lucy Pierce: to complete Antonietta Duncan: my Lucy Pierce: this Antonietta Duncan: bad. Lucy Pierce: one, 'cause some of the tools that I was given were frustrating. Barbara Halter: Oh that's fine. Porsha Williams: Help Lucy Pierce: okay Porsha Williams: Barbara Halter. Lucy Pierce: th some of the things that we actually need to put into this. We need a power source, we're gonna need a smart chip if we're gonna make it multi-functional. Um extra functions will probably need an additional chip. Either that or the smart chip will have to be extremely smart. Barbara Halter: What exactly is a smart chip? Lucy Pierce: Usually a smart chip is just a chip that's been programmed and designed so that it can complete a fair range of functions. Porsha Williams: Well, how much extra would the additional chip be? Is that gonna push us over our production costs? Lucy Pierce: I wouldn't think so, 'cause we could probably get it from like, in bulk, from a a newer company. Porsha Williams: Mm-hmm. Lucy Pierce: And they tend to sell their chips pretty cheap. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Ready? Lucy Pierce: Um yep, nothing here. Antonietta Duncan: That's okay. Lucy Pierce: Um power source, I figured, batteries, 'cause they're easily available. Typically a remote has either two double A_s or four triple A_s, sometimes three. Uh it really kinda depends on the size of the actual remote itself. Um a large on-off button, demographically we're moving towards an older generation of people, so a large on-off button would probably be good. Antonietta Duncan: Hmm. Lucy Pierce: Selection button for various entertainment devices, so you want something that will permit you to select the D_V_D_ player or the T_V_ or the stereo system. Um smart chip that perverts uh that permits, sorry, universal application again, something that'll allow us to skip over between devices, and that's kinda it. Uh this is my fifty second design. Power source over here. We're gonna have a switch obviously between the power source and the rest of it, and you're gonna need the switch. Um extra bulb could just be for flashiness, um subcomponent which would be like a way of diverting the power to different parts of the the device. Um the chip and of course the infra-red bulb, so it can communicate with the various devices that it needs to talk to. Barbara Halter: So what exactly we are looking at, is this like the front of the Lucy Pierce: This is just like Barbara Halter: remote? Lucy Pierce: a rough schematic. Antonietta Duncan: So Lucy Pierce: So this Antonietta Duncan: this Lucy Pierce: is Antonietta Duncan: would Lucy Pierce: the Antonietta Duncan: be Lucy Pierce: internal Antonietta Duncan: the front? Lucy Pierce: workings. Antonietta Duncan: So Barbara Halter: Oh Antonietta Duncan: the Barbara Halter: okay. Antonietta Duncan: red would be the front of the remote though, Lucy Pierce: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: right? Porsha Williams: Yeah, Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: that's gonna be what's communicating with the T_V_, but the other bulb, I think, is good to just to indicate, I'm doing something, it's sort of like a Antonietta Duncan: The l Barbara Halter: Like Porsha Williams: reassurance. Barbara Halter: that we Antonietta Duncan: the Barbara Halter: know Lucy Pierce: Yeah, Barbara Halter: the battery's Lucy Pierce: so Antonietta Duncan: light Lucy Pierce: you don't Antonietta Duncan: up Barbara Halter: working. Lucy Pierce: have to stare Antonietta Duncan: kind of Lucy Pierce: at that infra-red, 'cause Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Lucy Pierce: you know when the battery starts dying in your remote currently, you have to actually stare at that bulb and go, okay, Antonietta Duncan: Hmm. Lucy Pierce: when I push this button, is it working? Barbara Halter: Okay. Antonietta Duncan: It'd probably be Lucy Pierce: We Antonietta Duncan: lighting Lucy Pierce: can skip Antonietta Duncan: up the key Lucy Pierce: that whole thing. Antonietta Duncan: too, right? Lucy Pierce: Yep. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. Lucy Pierce: So you can Antonietta Duncan: The buttons. Lucy Pierce: put it in the dark. Barbara Halter: Yeah, and that's good. We Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Barbara Halter: should make it glow in the dark. Antonietta Duncan: Yeah, definitely. 'Kay nex R Ready? Lucy Pierce: Yeah, that's it. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay, any p Barbara Halter: Mm 'kay. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay? Anything you wanna add for personal preferences though, you f you said already that we needed a large on-off button, you think. Lucy Pierce: I Antonietta Duncan: Anything Lucy Pierce: think Antonietta Duncan: else? Lucy Pierce: that that's a good idea, because you know that's one of the most Porsha Williams: Just Lucy Pierce: important buttons. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: Well, should it be larger buttons in general, you know like uh the examples that I had, they were swi quite small. So should we try and go for something that has l larger buttons? Barbara Halter: I think we should. Like I think that would be in a as in like in for the design, sorry, um. I think we should definitely go with buttons that don't look like a normal remote, 'cause most remotes have small square buttons, Antonietta Duncan: Mm. Barbara Halter: I think we should do something like Porsha Williams: Ovals. Barbara Halter: maybe bigger and round like Porsha Williams: Yeah, Barbara Halter: bubbles. Porsha Williams: yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Okay, let's talk about all of our We'll come to decision later about all the components that we need to include, let's um wrap up this one, and I'm gonna go back to my PowerPoint, 'cause we need to discuss the new project requirements which you might've already seen flashed up on the screen a bit earlier. Wait, come back. Alright. Sorry, let's go through this. Alright. Here we go. New product requirements. First it's only going to be a T_V_ remote. We're trying not to over-complicate things. So no D_V_D_, no TiVo, no stereo. Lucy Pierce: Okay. Antonietta Duncan: It's not gonna be multi-functional. Hey. And we th need to promote our company more, so we need to somehow include our colour and our company slogan on the remote. We're trying to get our name out there in the world. Okay. And you know what teletext is? Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: in States we don't have it, but Porsha Williams: I Barbara Halter: What Antonietta Duncan: um Porsha Williams: know. Barbara Halter: is it? Antonietta Duncan: it's like they just have this channel where just has news and weather, kind of sports, it's very um bland looking, it's just text on the screen, Porsha Williams: Yeah, it's like Antonietta Duncan: not Porsha Williams: black, Antonietta Duncan: even Yeah, Porsha Williams: black and Antonietta Duncan: just Porsha Williams: white kind Antonietta Duncan: black Porsha Williams: of Antonietta Duncan: with just Barbara Halter: Like running Antonietta Duncan: text. Barbara Halter: along the bottom? Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Lucy Pierce: You can Porsha Williams: It'll Lucy Pierce: also Porsha Williams: give Lucy Pierce: get Porsha Williams: you Lucy Pierce: the kind of the Porsha Williams: the Lucy Pierce: T_V_ guide Porsha Williams: sports. Lucy Pierce: so Barbara Halter: Wait, is it like the Weather Channel where it's got like the ticker running on the bottom Antonietta Duncan: Kind Porsha Williams: Except Barbara Halter: or Antonietta Duncan: of. Barbara Halter: something? Porsha Williams: the entire screen. Lucy Pierce: It's the entire Antonietta Duncan: Yeah it's Lucy Pierce: screen Antonietta Duncan: the whole screen. Lucy Pierce: is just running information at random. Porsha Williams: You can Antonietta Duncan: So Porsha Williams: pick Antonietta Duncan: anyway Porsha Williams: sports, Lucy Pierce: Seemingly. Porsha Williams: you can pick the news, you entertainment, you know it's like Barbara Halter: So it's like Antonietta Duncan: Right. Barbara Halter: a separate channel from like what Antonietta Duncan: Right. Barbara Halter: you're watching? Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: But it's becoming out-dated now, because of the Internet. and we have twenty four hour news channels now too, so Those are our new product requirements. Barbara Halter: Okay. Lucy Pierce: Okay. So, Antonietta Duncan: Alright. Lucy Pierce: do we have to Antonietta Duncan: Mm-hmm. Lucy Pierce: include the company colour within that? Antonietta Duncan: Yes. It's part of the logo. Okay. Porsha Williams: Company colour being yellow. Antonietta Duncan: What we're going to do right now is come to some decisions, definitive that we can all agree on, about um the target group and the functions and just definite things that we need to do and then we'll close up the meeting. So. Alright. Whatever. Okay. Antonietta Duncan: So our target group is You mentioned um older people? Porsha Williams: Mm-hmm. Antonietta Duncan: Would it just be universal for everyone, you think? Because I think even if something has large buttons, Porsha Williams: It's gonna Antonietta Duncan: as Porsha Williams: make Antonietta Duncan: long Porsha Williams: it Antonietta Duncan: as they are not Porsha Williams: nicer. Antonietta Duncan: childishly large, like even Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: technically non-technically challenged people are gonna use it. I mean they want something user-friendly, so Lucy Pierce: Mm well, even if we kept the regular standard size of remote, if we reduced the buttons down to the ones that people are saying that they use the most often and a couple extra, 'cause Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Lucy Pierce: they're saying they only use ten per cent of them, Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. Lucy Pierce: then we should be able to accommodate fairly decent sized buttons. Antonietta Duncan: Okay, so we want um for our target group would we say, I mean, young and old, all age ranges, all um, not kids obviously, right? Or kids? Barbara Halter: No, kids need to know how to use a remote, Lucy Pierce: Most Barbara Halter: I would Lucy Pierce: of them Barbara Halter: think. Lucy Pierce: will intuitively Barbara Halter: They gotta Lucy Pierce: pick Barbara Halter: change Lucy Pierce: it up Barbara Halter: between Lucy Pierce: though. Barbara Halter: Disney Channel, Cartoon Network. Antonietta Duncan: Okay, so we're going to go anywhere from Barbara Halter: Yeah, Antonietta Duncan: kids Barbara Halter: I think we need it Antonietta Duncan: to Barbara Halter: all. Antonietta Duncan: adult in the age range Um what about technic technical um specifications, like how how technically literate are these people who are going to be using our remote? Barbara Halter: Um I would say we should say dumber than the average person. Porsha Williams: We Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Porsha Williams: should go for the lowest denominator. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Right, okay. Porsha Williams: High Antonietta Duncan: So Porsha Williams: school educated. Antonietta Duncan: so they need no technical experience to operate Lucy Pierce: how 'bout little to no, because there is no way that you are gonna be able to make it no. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. And we also need to determine the specific functions of this, just to get it all out on paper. So we said it needs to send messages to the T_V_, needs to change the channel, turn on and off, just basic simple stuff like this. So if you have something just say it and we'll add it to my meeting minutes. Porsha Williams: Well it's channel, on-off button, Antonietta Duncan: Mm-hmm, Porsha Williams: volume, Antonietta Duncan: volume. Porsha Williams: mute. Barbara Halter: And channel. Yeah. Those are the most important ones. Antonietta Duncan: Right. And we wanna keep um I'll make a note here that we wanna keep the number of buttons down. Correct, because people only use ten percent. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. Hey, what Porsha Williams: Um. Antonietta Duncan: else? Antonietta Duncan: Um. Lucy Pierce: Do we want this thing to be able to be found easily? Antonietta Duncan: I think so. What do you Barbara Halter: Sure, yeah. Antonietta Duncan: A finding Lucy Pierce: And Barbara Halter: I need Antonietta Duncan: kind Barbara Halter: we Antonietta Duncan: of Barbara Halter: we need a Antonietta Duncan: device Lucy Pierce: like Barbara Halter: like Antonietta Duncan: or Lucy Pierce: if Barbara Halter: homing Antonietta Duncan: Yeah, Lucy Pierce: this is Porsha Williams: Oh Barbara Halter: device. Lucy Pierce: gonna Antonietta Duncan: ho Porsha Williams: right Lucy Pierce: get Porsha Williams: yeah Lucy Pierce: lost Antonietta Duncan: homing Porsha Williams: okay. Lucy Pierce: underneath Antonietta Duncan: device. Lucy Pierce: the coach, how are we going to accommodate the quick Antonietta Duncan: Mm Lucy Pierce: ability Antonietta Duncan: 'kay. Lucy Pierce: to find Porsha Williams: Tracking. Lucy Pierce: it? Barbara Halter: Because Antonietta Duncan: Okay. Barbara Halter: people really are looking for a remote that's more high-tech. Antonietta Duncan: Right. Lucy Pierce: What if we gave it a charger? And on the charger, just like a phone, like you get a portable phone and it's got a charger, Porsha Williams: But Lucy Pierce: and Porsha Williams: you Lucy Pierce: if Porsha Williams: got Lucy Pierce: you d Porsha Williams: a base. Lucy Pierce: leave your phone somewhere, you push the button to find it, and it finds th the phone beeps for you. Barbara Halter: Because Lucy Pierce: It's useful for the remote phone. Antonietta Duncan: Hmm. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Would that add to our costs at all, I wonder? Barbara Halter: I would think so, because you'd have to develop a base. Antonietta Duncan: Right. Porsha Williams: Well, if you have the base, you could start putting in a charger and then you have a different kind of battery. Lucy Pierce: Yeah. Barbara Halter: Hmm. Lucy Pierce: Rechargeable batteries are cheaper usually. Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. I I think we can make a decision about that later. Uh we'll still put that as a point that we need to discuss. So that would include battery source Power source rather. Is it going to have a charger, or is it going to be run strictly off batteries? And we also need to deal with the issue you mentioned of speech recognition, if we want Barbara Halter: Right. Antonietta Duncan: that. Barbara Halter: Do w Porsha Williams: Well, then we could If we have the speech recognition then we can start aiming at a like another kind of more handicapped disabled uh Antonietta Duncan: Mm. Porsha Williams: demo demographic. Barbara Halter: Well, th there's the people who desire speech recognition, there's the different demog demographics have different desires, I don't know if you guys ge Antonietta Duncan: You could um Barbara Halter: It Antonietta Duncan: we Barbara Halter: wouldn't Antonietta Duncan: could Barbara Halter: copy Antonietta Duncan: hook it up. Barbara Halter: onto the Antonietta Duncan: Oh. Barbara Halter: the thing 'cause it's black, but all the different age groups have different desires for speech recognition. So basically older people don't really care. It's really the people twenty five to thirty five. I feel those are the people that really watch a lot of T_V_ though. Antonietta Duncan: Mm-hmm. Barbara Halter: They're the ones that get addicted to soap operas and Porsha Williams: Well Antonietta Duncan: And Barbara Halter: just Antonietta Duncan: if Barbara Halter: sitcoms and stuff. Antonietta Duncan: and if we introduced it when they're this age, they're going to probably always buy a remote Barbara Halter: Right. Antonietta Duncan: that has Barbara Halter: So Porsha Williams: Well, then then do you put the voice recognition do you put the r like receiver on the actual television, in the base, or in the actual remote, Antonietta Duncan: Right. Porsha Williams: whereas if you just speak in general and you don't have to have the remote in your hand and like talk at it. Antonietta Duncan: Yeah. and the speech recognition could be part of the lost and found device, too. If we said, Barbara Halter: Right. Antonietta Duncan: find remote, locate remote, or something. A certain phrase then it could beep. I dunno. Just throwing it out there. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Well Porsha Williams: Still fifteen minutes. Um. Antonietta Duncan: Okay, anything else we wanna discuss? Porsha Williams: Well, do we wanna include the numbers like zero through nine? Can we conceive of leaving them out? Antonietta Duncan: Um. Barbara Halter: Wait, on the remote itself? Porsha Williams: Yeah, like you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, zero. Barbara Halter: Well, Antonietta Duncan: How Barbara Halter: we definitely need those. Antonietta Duncan: how, yeah, how Lucy Pierce: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: would you leave those out? Porsha Williams: Well, I don't know, I mean, if you can like well I don't Antonietta Duncan: Unless Porsha Williams: know, Antonietta Duncan: you Porsha Williams: if Antonietta Duncan: could Porsha Williams: there's Antonietta Duncan: say Porsha Williams: just a Antonietta Duncan: the Porsha Williams: way Antonietta Duncan: channel. Porsha Williams: of leaving them out? Lucy Pierce: I think people would find that too foreign. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Yeah, that's true. Barbara Halter: You Antonietta Duncan: And Barbara Halter: definitely need Antonietta Duncan: also remember that in this day in age we need, you know, like a hundred button, too. I used to have a remote that did not even go up past like fifty. So I couldn't whenever I got cable, I had to get a new T_V_. Lucy Pierce: It's when we get satellite. Antonietta Duncan: Mm. get your own remote, or digital cable. Lucy Pierce: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. Um. I guess, we're gonna discuss the project financing later, making sure that we can fit all of the stuff that we want to on our budget. Um. Lucy Pierce: Yeah, 'cause I don't have any material pricing information available to Barbara Halter at the moment, so Antonietta Duncan: 'Kay. And don't forget we need to include the colour of our company and the logo. Porsha Williams: The colour Barbara Halter: Wait. Porsha Williams: being yellow? Antonietta Duncan: I'm guessing. Porsha Williams: And how Barbara Halter: I feel Porsha Williams: do Antonietta Duncan: And Porsha Williams: we Barbara Halter: like Antonietta Duncan: the R_R_. Barbara Halter: a ye I feel Lucy Pierce: R_ Barbara Halter: like a Lucy Pierce: the Barbara Halter: yellow Lucy Pierce: double Barbara Halter: one Lucy Pierce: R_. Barbara Halter: would be too garish. Antonietta Duncan: We could just Porsha Williams: Can't Antonietta Duncan: have the Porsha Williams: make Antonietta Duncan: logo Porsha Williams: it entirely Antonietta Duncan: in yellow, or maybe a Lucy Pierce: Or Antonietta Duncan: yellow Lucy Pierce: is the Antonietta Duncan: light Lucy Pierce: l Antonietta Duncan: for the keys. Barbara Halter: Or put like stripes, oh yeah, yellow Lucy Pierce: Yeah, Barbara Halter: lights. Lucy Pierce: yellow could be and it could doesn't have to be huge. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Porsha Williams: Well if you have like a Hang on. If you have this sort of strip kind of down at the bottom the base of it, just like yellow with the R_R_. Antonietta Duncan: Right. So we've simplified, we don't need all those um play, fast-forward, rewind, Porsha Williams: Right, yeah. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: or no menu buttons. So we've pretty much pared it down to on-off, volume, mute, channel up and down, um the numbers Yeah. Barbara Halter: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: Um can we go back to I'm gonna look really quickly back at those Porsha Williams: Two examples. Antonietta Duncan: examples Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: and see if there is anything. Which one is yours, technical functions Porsha Williams: Oh, it's Antonietta Duncan: or Porsha Williams: a Antonietta Duncan: functional Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: requirement? Okay. Barbara Halter: Yeah, audi audio settings and screen settings, we need those like audio settings mono, stereo, pitch, screen settings like brightness, colour, or do we just want that accessed accessed from the television Antonietta Duncan: The T_V_. Barbara Halter: itself? Antonietta Duncan: I think that that's fine just for the T_V_. I mean how often does the average user need to do that kind of stuff? Porsha Williams: Well, the other option is sort of like down at the bottom, like farther away, you just have this sort of box inset where it's like the buttons that you don't use as much, but Antonietta Duncan: Hmm. Porsha Williams: occasionally you will use. Barbara Halter: Yeah, 'cause Porsha Williams: and Barbara Halter: we need Porsha Williams: so Barbara Halter: to Porsha Williams: it's like Barbara Halter: we definitely need to have buttons for like sub-titles and things like that. It's 'cause the foreign film market is expanding and stuff, and like on television like I know f k living in Los Angeles it's tons of Spanish network television if it has English sub-titles it's definitely helpful. Antonietta Duncan: Couldn't we do that all through one button, something, Porsha Williams: I don't well, Antonietta Duncan: a menu Porsha Williams: I don't know. Antonietta Duncan: button, that pops up with a menu on the T_V_ that says, you know, audio, video, whatever, language, you know? Porsha Williams: Right. Barbara Halter: So we need up, down, and side-to-side buttons. Porsha Williams: Well, that Antonietta Duncan: For Porsha Williams: could be Antonietta Duncan: the menus. Porsha Williams: No you could just double up with like the channel or the volume buttons. Lucy Pierce: Mm-hmm. Antonietta Duncan: That's true. Barbara Halter: Yeah, Porsha Williams: Channel Barbara Halter: okay. Porsha Williams: is just up and down. Barbara Halter: Okay, yeah. Porsha Williams: And then add a Antonietta Duncan: Something that Barbara Halter: Such as, yeah, the Antonietta Duncan: looks Barbara Halter: one Antonietta Duncan: mayb you know. Barbara Halter: the one over there on the left the engineering Antonietta Duncan: Y Barbara Halter: centred Antonietta Duncan: right, Barbara Halter: one. Antonietta Duncan: right Porsha Williams: Yeah. Antonietta Duncan: right right. That one? Porsha Williams: So we just have it like add a menu button then for the various things needed, Antonietta Duncan: Right. Porsha Williams: including v Antonietta Duncan: In Porsha Williams: voice Antonietta Duncan: the middle Porsha Williams: recognition if we have Antonietta Duncan: perhaps. Porsha Williams: any like settings for voice recognition now included in the menu. Antonietta Duncan: Yep. Barbara Halter: Ooh, I just got an idea for a design. Antonietta Duncan: good. Antonietta Duncan: Anybody have anything else they'd like to bring up in this meeting? Lucy Pierce: I had something, but I forgot. Antonietta Duncan: Okay. get out of here. Let's go back to the meeting closure then and see what we need to do next. Mm. Alright. After this meeting we're gonna be sent a questionnaire and summary again which we need to reply to that e-mail. And then we're gonna have lunch break. And after lunch thirty minutes of individual work time. Um I'm gonna put the minutes I put the minutes for the first meeting already in the project documents folder, if you'd like to review them. And I'm gonna type up the minutes for this one as well. Um here's what we're each going to do. The I_D_ is going to work on the components concept, um U_I_D_ the user interface concept, and you're going to do some trend watching. 'Kay. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. And if anybody has anything they would like to add? No? Okay, well, this meeting is officially over. Thank you all.	Porsha Williams presented the basic functions of the device and discussed the designs of two existing products, showing an example of the simple design that the group wants to implement. Barbara Halter presented feedback from users, showing that users want a simple but fancy-looking remote control and that young users want speech recognition. She discussed including only the most basic functions in the interface. Lucy Pierce presented her internal design of the device and discussed the processor chip and the energy sources that will be integrated. She suggested integrating an extra lightbulb that lit up when the remote was communicating with the television. Antonietta Duncan gave the group new requirements for the product design. The group discussed marketing the product to a wide range of customers. They had a discussion about possibly including a locator function and speech recognition. They discussed integrating the company's yellow color and logo into the design, and decreasing the number of buttons in the main interface. Antonietta Duncan instructed Lucy Pierce to prepare the components concept, Porsha Williams to prepare the interface concept, and Barbara Halter to prepare a trendwatching report.	4	amisum	train
Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Hi Team. Hope you had a good. Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting. Um let's get started. 'Kay, here is the agenda for today's meeting. Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager. We're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you again. And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up. And we have forty minutes again. 'Kay, just to reiterate after meeting team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control. Okay. Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations. Who would like to go first? Stephanie Littlefield: Just trying to move mine right now. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Um Courtney would you mind starting us Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: off? Okay. Trend watching? Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Elizabeth Sider: Okay, so trend watching. Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics, it is kind of important how our product looks. So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next. So what they want. Right now customers want fancy versus functional. Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they like of the product that they want, describing like the in order of how much they want, fifty per of the decision of what it should look like, fancy versus functional, and then it has to also be technologically innovative, and yet easy to use. So the customer basically is confused. They don't know exactly what they want. They want us to tell them. Stephanie Littlefield: They want everything, but Elizabeth Sider: Yes. Stephanie Littlefield: simply. Elizabeth Sider: Exactly. Stephanie Littlefield: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: So we can go to next. Cassandra Wanda: Mm 'kay. Elizabeth Sider: Okay. So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing, shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns. So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year. I don't know really, I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: if we want to rather Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff, you'd want like a softer touch. I mean do you guys know what I mean. Cassandra Wanda: Right. Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah Cassandra Wanda: Yes. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: th Elizabeth Sider: Um. But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns, I don't know if we really want to go with that, because it is just a trend, and Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months, Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: because Cassandra Wanda: People Stephanie Littlefield: I Cassandra Wanda: don't Stephanie Littlefield: I Cassandra Wanda: buy Stephanie Littlefield: can Cassandra Wanda: a new remote Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: every Elizabeth Sider: I mean Cassandra Wanda: so Elizabeth Sider: that could Cassandra Wanda: often. Elizabeth Sider: just be a Spring thing right now. Stephanie Littlefield: I can address some of that issue, I think, with uh my presentation. Elizabeth Sider: Okay. Awesome. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: Um so design preferences, um we need easy to read like large buttons, clearly labelled so that, I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem. Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch, you said that in your design, with the bulb. Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme. Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously. That's one of our key goals, we wanna promote our product. And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something. Actually right here. So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this, where we put the buttons around, like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down, and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape. 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool. So it's classically retro. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Elizabeth Sider: So I mean that's just an idea if Cassandra Wanda: Very Elizabeth Sider: you guys Cassandra Wanda: good. I like Elizabeth Sider: like Cassandra Wanda: it. Elizabeth Sider: it. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, Elizabeth Sider: And, Cassandra Wanda: ready for the next slide? Elizabeth Sider: yep. And that's it. Cassandra Wanda: Op mm 'kay. Stephanie Littlefield: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: Great. Great presentation. Ready? Emilia Yarbrough: Okay hang on. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Emilia Yarbrough: See if it's there. Cassandra Wanda: Which one is it? Emilia Yarbrough: I don't know. Hang on. Interface concepts, no? Cassandra Wanda: Interface concepts new. Emilia Yarbrough: Either refresh it, or it sh Oh Cassandra Wanda: Y Emilia Yarbrough: wait, maybe I didn't put it there. Hang on. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Stephanie Littlefield: Mine will always read copy of something or other. Cassandra Wanda: Sorry? Stephanie Littlefield: I I copied mine before I sent it over. Cassandra Wanda: Oh okay. Emilia Yarbrough: Sorry, hang on. Don't know. Cassandra Wanda: Oh there we go. Emilia Yarbrough: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: Okay, um looking at the interface concept, it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this. Uh if you wanna start the next slide. Cassandra Wanda: Sure. Emilia Yarbrough: uh can't really see there's two possible, on the r left, if you see on th on the sides of of the remote, you have the sort of scroll down, so you have that option right there. And then also there's the idea of the base. That's sort of like an idea there. And then on the right, we have what's really big trend right now, it's the iPod. It's becoming really and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons, and it's sort of like you have the both kind of trendy and hip, but also very sleek and um and very simple, but technologically advanced. So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it, but Anyway, Cassandra Wanda: Mm 'kay. Emilia Yarbrough: next. Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight. You'd you know you're in the dark, you don't wanna be looking at the remote control. And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_, and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up. What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down, because the down arrow. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up. Um but then you have you could either do it by raised type, which could be you know, iffy, um sort of old-fashioned in a way. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: Either that or just have it by shape, for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow. And then the round ones you sort of feel by, you know, that's the second one down, that sort of thing. So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: Okay. Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic. Um this is particularly geared towards children. Elizabeth Sider: That's cute. Emilia Yarbrough: Um it's very cute, and we could probably change it to yellow, bright yellow for like a the for the company logo. Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking. Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain channels that only these children would watch, so it's like they ch watch, you know, the C_ Beebies or something like that, uh keep them away from other channels. So that's like another ar Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: Um, I mean, these are three examples sort of looking at it. You have the wider section for the main controls there. Uh you could see how many buttons there are. And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons, and a simpler design. On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that, because it's more for like a D_V_D_ function which we are not gonna be using. Um. So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_, Real Reaction. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Emilia Yarbrough: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples, but also some more, just possibilities that we could go with. None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: Hmm. Cassandra Wanda: No. Emilia Yarbrough: But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying, well out of this one we like, you know the round section of um, b or we'd like the Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: the button size on this. Cassandra Wanda: Or I like, you know, the black finish or the silver finish or whatever. Emilia Yarbrough: Right. Elizabeth Sider: I have four of those remotes. Cassandra Wanda: Good lord. Okay. Ready? Emilia Yarbrough: That's it. Cassandra Wanda: Oh, yeah. Okay. Great job. Stephanie Littlefield: Okay, my turn. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: Okay. Stephanie Littlefield: Whoo. Cassandra Wanda: What's the title? Stephanie Littlefield: It'll be copy of component design. Cassandra Wanda: Got it. Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Th that looks like it. 'Kay. So basic remote runs as follows, press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit, chip senses the connection, chip produces a morse code infra-red signal, specific to that button. So you press the button, it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button. Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre, which interprets the signal response accordingly, changes channel etcetera. So that being said Next slide, please. Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction, so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed, we need rubber for buttons, aluminium for battery y contacts, integrated circuit which consists of a diode, transistor, resonator, resistors, and a capacitator, all those basic things that make a circuit function. Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself. An L_E_D_, which is a light emitting diode, um contact discs for the buttons, plastic for the casing, and a power-source, whatever power-source we've actually determined we want. Next slide, please. Thank you. Uh personal preferences, uh to save money for the components, the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse. Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips, casing, L_E_D_, any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing, we should go for it. Next slide, please. Um just talking to the um manufacturing division. They suggested power options, solar cells, hand dynamo, and kinetic power, so you shake it and it increases the power. Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works, they have yet to get back to Elizabeth Sider on that. So Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: next slide, please. Cassandra Wanda: Interesting. Stephanie Littlefield: Suggested casing options. Okay. We can offer options for casing such as straight, curved, double-curved, you know, very specific to the customer. Options for materials, plastic, rubber, titanium, wood. I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one, because splinters Elizabeth Sider: That would be amazing, though, yeah. No, Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: splinters would Stephanie Littlefield: Um certain restrictions do apply here though. Uh latex, you can't do solar power with a latex one. So, if they want some a soft squishy rubber, they can't have the solar powered option. Double-curved, you can't Elizabeth Sider: What Stephanie Littlefield: do titanium. Elizabeth Sider: is that? Stephanie Littlefield: Um that would be two curvatures, so it would actually, if you the shape of your hand, you curve here and you curve here, Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Stephanie Littlefield: so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold. Elizabeth Sider: Mm. Stephanie Littlefield: Now if you wanted that, you can't do titanium. And uh so you functions what for the buttons, scrolling Emilia Yarbrough: Right. Stephanie Littlefield: function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves. I think Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Stephanie Littlefield: I have one more slide. No, I Cassandra Wanda: No, Stephanie Littlefield: didn't. Cassandra Wanda: okay. Stephanie Littlefield: Um the manufacturing division also has said that um they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip, which we could utilise. Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip. So depends on what we decide we wanna do. In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote, we're going to have to have multiples of each type, like a double-curved in rubber, um you know, each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options. So we'll have to mix it up, make sure we produce enough of everyone. But that could also drive up the price of the Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Stephanie Littlefield: actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand, you know, double-curved Elizabeth Sider: Right. Stephanie Littlefield: wooden remotes. Elizabeth Sider: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: And Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Stephanie Littlefield: that's all I got. Cassandra Wanda: Alright, well thank you for those informative presentations. Let's go back to um Now we have to make some decisions. Where were we? Emilia Yarbrough: Let Elizabeth Sider just add one more thing that I couldn't say before, Cassandra Wanda: Sure. Emilia Yarbrough: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition. Um. Elizabeth Sider: Oh this the thing we were talking about earlier. Emilia Yarbrough: Right except that it's sort of odd, and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are, um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for So, you would say like, good morning, coffeemaker, and it would respond, good morning, Jill, but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work, 'cause do you programme do we program the responses and the questions. So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question, and can't change it Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: in order for it to be recognised, or can it be altered in a certain way, or does the actually user program it, to Cassandra Wanda: Right. Emilia Yarbrough: say a channel means this. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, like Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: using the menu to be like, enter your name into the screen like on the menu options. So Emilia Yarbrough: Right, Elizabeth Sider: that way the Emilia Yarbrough: so it's got Elizabeth Sider: remote Emilia Yarbrough: like a limited Elizabeth Sider: reads it. Emilia Yarbrough: memory and programme it. So it's sort of iffy, Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: I feel like voice recognition would be, I don't know, Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Elizabeth Sider: w it would be too hard to really Cassandra Wanda: Programme. Elizabeth Sider: I mean we could do it, but Cassandra Wanda: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that Elizabeth Sider: Technology. Cassandra Wanda: would, you know, technology Stephanie Littlefield: Well, we are making the chip. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: So, I mean But, I guess, we have to look at w what our production cost is for the chip itself Elizabeth Sider: And Stephanie Littlefield: anyway. Elizabeth Sider: it is a growing trend, Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: the Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: higher technological, like the, I mean just like the more advanced it is, Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: the better it'll Stephanie Littlefield: I Elizabeth Sider: sell. Stephanie Littlefield: I thought offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different, you know I think we'd have to decide on the power options, maybe. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: So Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Stephanie Littlefield: that Elizabeth Sider: 'cause Stephanie Littlefield: we Elizabeth Sider: we Stephanie Littlefield: could Elizabeth Sider: need to Stephanie Littlefield: reduce Elizabeth Sider: know how big Stephanie Littlefield: cost. Elizabeth Sider: it's gonna be Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: and how heavy. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, that kind of brings us to this, let's let's see Stephanie Littlefield: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost. Um. Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier? Elizabeth Sider: Oh the base, yeah. Cassandra Wanda: The base, the charging base Stephanie Littlefield: I Emilia Yarbrough: I Stephanie Littlefield: think Emilia Yarbrough: always Stephanie Littlefield: the Cassandra Wanda: with Emilia Yarbrough: feel Stephanie Littlefield: p Cassandra Wanda: rechargeable Emilia Yarbrough: like first Cassandra Wanda: batteries? Emilia Yarbrough: I wanna know what it looks like, before 'Cause Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Emilia Yarbrough: if it's something really really small, then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it, that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up Cassandra Wanda: Yeah, Elizabeth Sider: W Cassandra Wanda: and we don't have multiple things that it has to control, it just has to control the T_V_. It's not gonna be a huge universal remote. Elizabeth Sider: We Emilia Yarbrough: Right. Elizabeth Sider: need to decide, well so we can figure how big it's gonna be, like Cassandra Wanda: What Elizabeth Sider: exactly Cassandra Wanda: size battery Elizabeth Sider: what Cassandra Wanda: and Elizabeth Sider: buttons we want and exactly Emilia Yarbrough: Well, the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons, so we want Elizabeth Sider: It could Emilia Yarbrough: it to Elizabeth Sider: be Emilia Yarbrough: be Elizabeth Sider: like Emilia Yarbrough: bigger Elizabeth Sider: this. Emilia Yarbrough: than this, Elizabeth Sider: Yes. I'd, well Emilia Yarbrough: 'cause Elizabeth Sider: uh Emilia Yarbrough: it still fits in your hand, so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial, but not necessarily full of buttons. Elizabeth Sider: This one is really comfortable, like I like the sides whatever, Emilia Yarbrough: Are you gonna Elizabeth Sider: because Emilia Yarbrough: lose it easier? Elizabeth Sider: But if we have the um, the locator, then we don't have to worry about that. Stephanie Littlefield: That's true. Elizabeth Sider: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device. Stephanie Littlefield: If Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: we do a voice-activated locator, though, we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip. So Elizabeth Sider: Hmm. Emilia Yarbrough: So i That's the other thing, it's like You know Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size period? Elizabeth Sider: Two double A_s, for this size. Emilia Yarbrough: But like, you know, if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be Elizabeth Sider: Right. Emilia Yarbrough: have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size. Stephanie Littlefield: Honestly, I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small, compact Cassandra Wanda: Right. I agree, Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: it's Emilia Yarbrough: So Cassandra Wanda: either gonna Emilia Yarbrough: we Cassandra Wanda: be Emilia Yarbrough: sh Cassandra Wanda: bigger with a base or smaller Elizabeth Sider: Smaller, Cassandra Wanda: with Elizabeth Sider: without Cassandra Wanda: just Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: A battery like Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: Mm Cassandra Wanda: this Stephanie Littlefield: yeah. Cassandra Wanda: guy. Alright, so what direction do you want to go in? You wanna vote? Elizabeth Sider: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one, I think that seems way more advanced. Cassandra Wanda: I'm kind of Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: I'm kind of Emilia Yarbrough: I'm Cassandra Wanda: leaning in the Emilia Yarbrough: a Cassandra Wanda: direction Emilia Yarbrough: away Cassandra Wanda: of this Emilia Yarbrough: from Cassandra Wanda: kind of Emilia Yarbrough: the base. Cassandra Wanda: bigger and Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: the Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: base. Stephanie Littlefield: 'Kay Cassandra Wanda: That just Stephanie Littlefield: so Cassandra Wanda: seems so clunky and Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now, those trends the smaller Emilia Yarbrough: Smaller Elizabeth Sider: the Emilia Yarbrough: and smaller, yeah, Elizabeth Sider: hotter Emilia Yarbrough: yeah, yeah. Elizabeth Sider: it is, yeah Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Stephanie Littlefield: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash. Elizabeth Sider: Oh. Emilia Yarbrough: You're kidding. Stephanie Littlefield: You know it happens. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: I've had three watches go that way too. Emilia Yarbrough: Oh watches Elizabeth Sider: Ouch. Emilia Yarbrough: I've but I've never washed a cell Elizabeth Sider: A phone, Emilia Yarbrough: phone. Elizabeth Sider: whoa, that would wow, that would hurt. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, Stephanie Littlefield: Pieces Cassandra Wanda: so Stephanie Littlefield: everywhere. Cassandra Wanda: what kind of material do we want to be made out of? Stephanie Littlefield: Well, we have lots of options. I don't think wood is a viable Elizabeth Sider: Yeah Stephanie Littlefield: option. Elizabeth Sider: wood. Cassandra Wanda: No. Emilia Yarbrough: Well, titanium Cassandra Wanda: Oh what did you Oh sorry, Emilia Yarbrough: s Cassandra Wanda: go ahead. Emilia Yarbrough: I was saying that titanium, if we're being restricted then I would probably lean away from that. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip, titanium will be more expensive. Cassandra Wanda: Right. Stephanie Littlefield: However, Cassandra Wanda: What would you recommend? Stephanie Littlefield: well, Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro right? Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market Emilia Yarbrough: That'll Stephanie Littlefield: then Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah, Stephanie Littlefield: you could Emilia Yarbrough: exactly. Stephanie Littlefield: produce a few in titanium, Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Stephanie Littlefield: make them a rarity Emilia Yarbrough: The selling Stephanie Littlefield: so to Emilia Yarbrough: point, Elizabeth Sider: We Stephanie Littlefield: speak. Elizabeth Sider: could Emilia Yarbrough: yeah. Elizabeth Sider: do that, because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more Emilia Yarbrough: Are we Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Emilia Yarbrough: restricted Elizabeth Sider: if Emilia Yarbrough: by this? Stephanie Littlefield: Well the Cassandra Wanda: I Stephanie Littlefield: original Emilia Yarbrough: Twenty five Cassandra Wanda: I think Emilia Yarbrough: Euros Cassandra Wanda: we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm Stephanie Littlefield: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: not sure that we'll have the time and money to produce a whole array of remotes. If this was a successful remote, we might then produce a higher end version of it, I think. Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: Good plan. Stephanie Littlefield: Good plan. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, so we wanna go for plastic, or what would you recommend for materials? Stephanie Littlefield: Honestly I'd Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: recommend like um uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power, I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex, because we could produce, you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour. We could Elizabeth Sider: Oh. Cassandra Wanda: Mm-hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: do uh one that fits Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Stephanie Littlefield: in with the trends of the year so, because this year is all fruit, God only Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Stephanie Littlefield: knows why, Elizabeth Sider: who knows. Stephanie Littlefield: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids, you know Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come Elizabeth Sider: O Emilia Yarbrough: back Elizabeth Sider: or we Emilia Yarbrough: and Elizabeth Sider: could Emilia Yarbrough: swap Elizabeth Sider: like take Cassandra Wanda: They could Emilia Yarbrough: it? Elizabeth Sider: off Stephanie Littlefield: They could Cassandra Wanda: buy Stephanie Littlefield: come Elizabeth Sider: this. Stephanie Littlefield: back. Cassandra Wanda: cases, maybe, Stephanie Littlefield: And buy the extra case. Emilia Yarbrough: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: if they wanted. I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell Stephanie Littlefield: So we could do like Cassandra Wanda: options. Stephanie Littlefield: a b a hard base plastic, and Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: then we could give Emilia Yarbrough: The Stephanie Littlefield: two Emilia Yarbrough: what the Stephanie Littlefield: latex Emilia Yarbrough: top face, Stephanie Littlefield: covers Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Emilia Yarbrough: right? Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Stephanie Littlefield: to start. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, because the soft latex definitely is squishy. That's in. Well I mean squishier than like, Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: yeah, Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: just a hard plastic. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, and what kind of chip would we need for this guy? Stephanie Littlefield: How complicated Are we gonna go with the Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: voice activated Cassandra Wanda: I don't think we should do voice, I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost, you know. Emilia Yarbrough: A Cassandra Wanda: could we Emilia Yarbrough: tracker, yeah. Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: 'Cause that uh what it type of, yeah, like a certain term what we would say like, Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Elizabeth Sider: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time. Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: So uh Stephanie Littlefield: Well, we could give it a specific code, you know, remote missing. Elizabeth Sider: Ooh. Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it, because I know that's it's definitely gonna be big, because it's, I don't know, it's Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Elizabeth Sider: just so high-tech. Emilia Yarbrough: my little sister got for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring, and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work. Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah, see that Emilia Yarbrough: And Stephanie Littlefield: would Emilia Yarbrough: then Stephanie Littlefield: just Emilia Yarbrough: she Stephanie Littlefield: irritate Emilia Yarbrough: would laugh Stephanie Littlefield: Elizabeth Sider. Emilia Yarbrough: and it would start going off in her purse, and you couldn't turn it off. Cassandra Wanda: Oh dear. Elizabeth Sider: Oh, Emilia Yarbrough: So Elizabeth Sider: then Emilia Yarbrough: it became Elizabeth Sider: maybe voice Emilia Yarbrough: highly irritating. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: maybe voice Stephanie Littlefield: So Elizabeth Sider: activation Stephanie Littlefield: I think Elizabeth Sider: won't Stephanie Littlefield: having Elizabeth Sider: be good. Stephanie Littlefield: a key-phrase is much better. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Alright. But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say, channel up, and it would work, right? Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, n n no, we Emilia Yarbrough: But Elizabeth Sider: just Emilia Yarbrough: then Cassandra Wanda: Just Stephanie Littlefield: No. Emilia Yarbrough: it Elizabeth Sider: want it to Cassandra Wanda: a Elizabeth Sider: be a finder. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, alright. Emilia Yarbrough: Hmm. Okay. Elizabeth Sider: But do can your can the department make Stephanie Littlefield: That would be like a mid-class um Elizabeth Sider: Oh, Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: brilliant then. Stephanie Littlefield: So we don't actually have to go for Well, if they've just developed the sample sensor, sample speaker, it's a brand new chip. Why not introduce Cassandra Wanda: No. Stephanie Littlefield: it in this way? Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Cassandra Wanda: Mm 'kay. Elizabeth Sider: good point. Cassandra Wanda: Uh and what size batteries, double A_, triple A_? Elizabeth Sider: I think triple A_, it'll be lighter. Cassandra Wanda: Two? Could Elizabeth Sider: I Cassandra Wanda: it Elizabeth Sider: mean Cassandra Wanda: run Elizabeth Sider: more Cassandra Wanda: off of two Elizabeth Sider: more Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Elizabeth Sider: come Emilia Yarbrough: that Elizabeth Sider: in Emilia Yarbrough: depends Elizabeth Sider: a package. Emilia Yarbrough: on what the energy is needed. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: I think, well, we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium, 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products, right? So they're more widely available now. And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries. Cassandra Wanda: They're more expensive though, too. Stephanie Littlefield: But if you only have to replace it every five years. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: That's a good Cassandra Wanda: Thoughts Elizabeth Sider: point. Emilia Yarbrough: As Cassandra Wanda: anybody? Emilia Yarbrough: long as we sell it with it. Stephanie Littlefield: Well, how about a initial, you get one battery when you buy it, 'cause Emilia Yarbrough: Right, Stephanie Littlefield: I'm pretty Emilia Yarbrough: that's Stephanie Littlefield: sure Emilia Yarbrough: what Stephanie Littlefield: we can Emilia Yarbrough: I meant. Stephanie Littlefield: get them Elizabeth Sider: We Stephanie Littlefield: pretty Elizabeth Sider: could think Stephanie Littlefield: cheap Elizabeth Sider: about Stephanie Littlefield: on bulk. Elizabeth Sider: it and Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Elizabeth Sider: come back to it next meeting. Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: We still have one more meeting. Cassandra Wanda: Alright. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. So we've covered that first category, User Interface Concept, meaning design. Emilia Yarbrough: What's it gonna Yeah, what's it gonna look like. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: Um. Cassandra Wanda: I ki I kind of like your idea about the retro phone dial, and that the central button could have, maybe our logo on it? It might be the four way scroll, too. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Cassandra Wanda: I mean Elizabeth Sider: it could Cassandra Wanda: if Elizabeth Sider: be whatever, Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: as long as there's something big in the middle, because like the old phones, Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: there's like that just like piece of metal Cassandra Wanda: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Sider: or like Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Elizabeth Sider: a picture or something in the Emilia Yarbrough: my Elizabeth Sider: middle. Emilia Yarbrough: issue with that is if it got too big though, 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle, then is it gonna get wider Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: than Elizabeth Sider: Oh, that's Emilia Yarbrough: your Elizabeth Sider: true. Emilia Yarbrough: your hands are, because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it? Elizabeth Sider: Good point. Stephanie Littlefield: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side, Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side, Cassandra Wanda: Oh, I see what Stephanie Littlefield: that Cassandra Wanda: you mean. Stephanie Littlefield: could be particularly useful. Cassandra Wanda: I think so. Elizabeth Sider: So scroll buttons on the side and Cassandra Wanda: Yeah, Elizabeth Sider: then buttons Cassandra Wanda: I like Elizabeth Sider: on Cassandra Wanda: that. Elizabeth Sider: top? Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Elizabeth Sider: But we definitely If we have scroll things on the side, we definitely have to have 'em labelled. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, like Stephanie Littlefield: Well, Elizabeth Sider: on Stephanie Littlefield: if it's Elizabeth Sider: the side Stephanie Littlefield: just up Elizabeth Sider: of Stephanie Littlefield: and Elizabeth Sider: it. Stephanie Littlefield: down Elizabeth Sider: Oh if it's just up and down. Emilia Yarbrough: But is that for Stephanie Littlefield: Volume or channel. Emilia Yarbrough: Which? Stephanie Littlefield: I don't know. Elizabeth Sider: Well, you could do Emilia Yarbrough: Do we Elizabeth Sider: some Emilia Yarbrough: have both Elizabeth Sider: on both Emilia Yarbrough: sides? Elizabeth Sider: sides. Cassandra Wanda: Can Stephanie Littlefield: Mm Cassandra Wanda: we? Stephanie Littlefield: yeah. We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then, Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: So that you're Stephanie Littlefield: 'cause Cassandra Wanda: just Stephanie Littlefield: oth Cassandra Wanda: not holding Stephanie Littlefield: otherwise Elizabeth Sider: That's Cassandra Wanda: it and Elizabeth Sider: squishy. Stephanie Littlefield: you're Cassandra Wanda: it Stephanie Littlefield: not Cassandra Wanda: changes Stephanie Littlefield: just Cassandra Wanda: the chan Stephanie Littlefield: holding Elizabeth Sider: That's Stephanie Littlefield: it Elizabeth Sider: squishy. Stephanie Littlefield: and going like this, Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Stephanie Littlefield: you Emilia Yarbrough: the Stephanie Littlefield: know. Emilia Yarbrough: other option is in instead of a scroll you just have Elizabeth Sider: have Emilia Yarbrough: the buttons Elizabeth Sider: buttons. Emilia Yarbrough: up on the side which Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: are on the side. Stephanie Littlefield: Okay. Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, that. Cassandra Wanda: Hmm. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay any other ideas? Emilia Yarbrough: Um what colour? Cassandra Wanda: Oh, yeah. Latex covers. Stephanie Littlefield: We Cassandra Wanda: W Stephanie Littlefield: have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on, so we'll have to like have a little square or something, so that the Emilia Yarbrough: Well Stephanie Littlefield: our logo's Emilia Yarbrough: I sort Stephanie Littlefield: available. Emilia Yarbrough: of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Emilia Yarbrough: And that's at the bottom of it. Cassandra Wanda: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though, because if people are able Emilia Yarbrough: Which Cassandra Wanda: to Emilia Yarbrough: button? Cassandra Wanda: change the covers, maybe the on-off button, something, some the menu button, I don't know, but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one. Are they all gonna have our company logo on them? Every cover? Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah, I don't think we should do that, because that would just be icky. Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea. Cassandra Wanda: If we want it to be visible and Um are all those those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking? Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: But those are plastic, right? Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: They're not titanium. I kind of like that look. Uh but, or if Stephanie Littlefield: For Cassandra Wanda: it was Stephanie Littlefield: our base Cassandra Wanda: really Stephanie Littlefield: one? Cassandra Wanda: Yeah, for the base or if we're going for the retro look, I think, like a really shiny black would be cool. Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Cassandra Wanda: What Elizabeth Sider: or like Cassandra Wanda: are your Elizabeth Sider: a Cassandra Wanda: thoughts? Elizabeth Sider: gun-metal grey, Cassandra Wanda: Gun-metal Elizabeth Sider: 'cause then Cassandra Wanda: gray. Elizabeth Sider: it combines the silver and the black. Cassandra Wanda: There you go, gun-metal gray. Emilia Yarbrough: I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button. Cassandra Wanda: Why? Stephanie Littlefield: It'll wear off. Emilia Yarbrough: What's the Elizabeth Sider: Yeah, Emilia Yarbrough: button Elizabeth Sider: buttons wear Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Elizabeth Sider: off. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: w w then what's the button do, and how do you know that that is what the button does? I guess. Just looking at examples, y you just don't ever see the logo on a button, it's always on the actual casing. Cassandra Wanda: Right. Elizabeth Sider: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front Elizabeth Sider: But Cassandra Wanda: On Stephanie Littlefield: of Emilia Yarbrough: But Elizabeth Sider: we Stephanie Littlefield: the Cassandra Wanda: the Elizabeth Sider: want Emilia Yarbrough: you Stephanie Littlefield: actual Emilia Yarbrough: don't Cassandra Wanda: back? Elizabeth Sider: it to be seen. Cassandra Wanda: It d visible Emilia Yarbrough: But uh, Elizabeth Sider: We Emilia Yarbrough: yeah, Elizabeth Sider: need it Emilia Yarbrough: you Cassandra Wanda: Visibility Elizabeth Sider: to Emilia Yarbrough: don't Elizabeth Sider: be seen. Emilia Yarbrough: see it. Cassandra Wanda: though 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is Emilia Yarbrough: Well, Cassandra Wanda: when you drop it or Emilia Yarbrough: hang Cassandra Wanda: when Emilia Yarbrough: on. Cassandra Wanda: you're changing the battery. Emilia Yarbrough: The other option is, I don't know if you can see it but it's like if Cassandra Wanda: I can find it again. Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah, it's like the second to last slide. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. And yours was called Interface Emilia Yarbrough: Interface, Cassandra Wanda: Concept? Emilia Yarbrough: yeah. Cassandra Wanda: This one? Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: Well, Emilia Yarbrough: Um. Cassandra Wanda: for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly. Emilia Yarbrough: Okay, it's the very right one. You see at the bottom, it's kind of difficult to see, but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like, where the logo is, and if we have the replaceable section, it's like the top. It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Emilia Yarbrough: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in. Cassandra Wanda: Okay, Emilia Yarbrough: If Cassandra Wanda: yes Emilia Yarbrough: c you envisioning it? And so Cassandra Wanda: yes. Emilia Yarbrough: that stays the same when you have the logo, and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes. Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Stephanie Littlefield: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so it actually would go over top of everything and have Emilia Yarbrough: Hmm. Stephanie Littlefield: holes for the buttons, so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: the logo should Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah, yeah. Stephanie Littlefield: be. Cassandra Wanda: Like a little cut-out kind Stephanie Littlefield: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: of Emilia Yarbrough: Right. That's Cassandra Wanda: Okay. Emilia Yarbrough: like, you know, a a cellphone it's like the the screen Elizabeth Sider: Right. Emilia Yarbrough: is always just left opened. And so, what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_? Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Elizabeth Sider: Some Cassandra Wanda: Anybody Elizabeth Sider: of tho Cassandra Wanda: see anything that they liked in Elizabeth Sider: Well, Cassandra Wanda: these Elizabeth Sider: some Cassandra Wanda: ones? Elizabeth Sider: of those buttons though are blue-based. Um Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: well, a lot of those buttons are blue-based. Well, kind Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: of. Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact, Emilia Yarbrough: Yellow. Elizabeth Sider: they could illuminate yellow. Cassandra Wanda: Yellow, Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: I like that idea. Elizabeth Sider: Like if we like the one all the way on the left, uh you ca you can see it on your computer better. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: Um where the button is actually blue, but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow. Cassandra Wanda: Mm. Elizabeth Sider: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch Emilia Yarbrough: Oh, Elizabeth Sider: buttons. Emilia Yarbrough: that one. Cassandra Wanda: I like Elizabeth Sider: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: the yellow illumination idea, very good. Okay. Any other ideas or thoughts? We Emilia Yarbrough: Um. Cassandra Wanda: all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna Emilia Yarbrough: Ha hang on Cassandra Wanda: do with this project so Emilia Yarbrough: Let Elizabeth Sider: Mm Emilia Yarbrough: Elizabeth Sider Elizabeth Sider: yeah. Emilia Yarbrough: catch up. Cassandra Wanda: 'Kay. Emilia Yarbrough: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we just everything that we said before? Cassandra Wanda: I think there will be time for that later. I'm guessing. 'Kay, well we're gonna wrap this up. Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes, and here's what we're each of us going to do. The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design, the U_I_D_ the user interface design. I think you're going to get a lot of, I mean, the final say on what buttons get put We'll all talk about it, but I think, that's pretty much what you're gonna do, right? Emilia Yarbrough: Yeah. Cassandra Wanda: I guess. 'Kay. And you're gonna do some product evaluation. Okay, and right now, the I_D_ and U_I_D_, you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. Stephanie Littlefield: Great. Emilia Yarbrough: Fun. Stephanie Littlefield: Play Doh. Cassandra Wanda: Yeah. Okay, and you should all be getting an email pretty soon. Alright. Well, Stephanie Littlefield: Wonderful Cassandra Wanda: thank you for a very productive meeting. Stephanie Littlefield: Ooh.	Elizabeth Sider presented more information on user requirements which showed that users wanted the look of a high-tech device that was still simple to use. She presented the fruit and vegetable fashion trend that the group will integrate into their design. Emilia Yarbrough presented several ideas for the interface design taken from existing product designs. Stephanie Littlefield discussed the necessary internal components and presented options for energy sources and materials. Emilia Yarbrough also presented the sample speaker technology recently developed by the company. The group had a discussion to finalize the prototype features. It was decided that the device will be small with a locator function instead of having a charging stand. Voice recognition will not be included outside of the locator function. It will be covered by interchangeable latex casings. To incorporate the company logo and color, the buttons will be illuminated yellow when pressed and the logo will be displayed through the latex casings. Cassandra Wanda instructed Emilia Yarbrough and Stephanie Littlefield to build the prototype, with Emilia Yarbrough deciding which buttons will be included. Elizabeth Sider will prepare a prototype evaluation.	4	amisum	train
Qiana Hinkle: I wanna find our if our remote works. Ann Way: Qiana Hinkle too. Qiana Hinkle: Oh. Ann Way: Okay. Qiana Hinkle: Whoohoo. Ann Way: Um here's the agenda for our last meeting. Um after the opening we're going to have a prototype presentation, then we're going to discuss the evaluation criteria and the financing of our remote. Then we're going to evaluate the product and I think the whole production process, and then we're gonna close it up, and we have forty minutes, so let's get started. Oh, no, let's have the prototype presentation. Caitlin Simpson: Mm 'kay, you ready? Kristin Jones: Um sure. You or Qiana Hinkle? Caitlin Simpson: Y you read that stuff, since Kristin Jones: Okay Caitlin Simpson: you wrote it. Kristin Jones: Well. since Caitlin Simpson: I'll Kristin Jones: our Caitlin Simpson: be the Vanna. Kristin Jones: materials aren't exactly what we were going for, I'm just gonna translate what this all means for you. The base is gonna be gunmetal gray, which is what we had decided, and it's gonna be plastic. Um then there's the latex cover, which is what you see as red. Um because it can be replaceable, we just kinda went with the colour. Ann Way: Right. Kristin Jones: Um and then the top. Um and the buttons will be a l much lighter blue, almost see-through. Ann Way: Hmm. Kristin Jones: It's just sort of a very pale blue and a Qiana Hinkle: That's Kristin Jones: light-up Qiana Hinkle: nice. Kristin Jones: yellow. Ann Way: Yeah. Kristin Jones: The whole thing lights up if you press any button, rather than it just that one button will light up. Qiana Hinkle: Good. Kristin Jones: Um and then at the bottom we have our logo. Um bright yellow sort of design with the R_R_ which will actually look like our logo. Ann Way: Great. Kristin Jones: And then on the side you have the buttons. They're one button, but they kind of push up and down. Ann Way: Okay. Kristin Jones: I don't think they're scrolling. Caitlin Simpson: No. They're just buttons. Kristin Jones: Right, yeah. And then yeah, the buttons. Caitlin Simpson: On off switch will be here and as you've noticed on our prototype um they've ended up with a curvature kind of, by concave sort of thing, except for, you know, can't see underneath. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: So I'm hoping that when we get to production we can actually make them like that, because they're very nice to stock you know, stick your finger in Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: Um. Kristin Jones: Thumb-shaped. Caitlin Simpson: the two squared buttons are are two probably least used, menu, mute, and then these are the numbers, so our channel and our volume will be on either side. Kristin Jones: Yeah. And then the last thing is just that it'll be black labelling on top, just which we didn't do. Ann Way: Okay. And did you determine um the curvature of the bottom part of it for the hand, is it gonna be a single or a double? Caitlin Simpson: I'd say a single. Ann Way: Single. Kristin Jones: Single. Ann Way: Single sounds good, 'cause it's not Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: big enough to really constitute a double. Kristin Jones: Right. Caitlin Simpson: Yeah, it's only actually the size of my hand. Ann Way: Great. Great. I think you did an awesome job. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, I think it's a beautiful Ann Way: It is beautiful, and it's everything that we discussed. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Good job, you guys. Ann Way: Good job. Kristin Jones: Oh thank Caitlin Simpson: Whoohoo. Kristin Jones: you. Qiana Hinkle: Those are really good. Ann Way: Alright what's next in our agenda? Um we're gonna discuss the evaluation criteria, and that's with Courtney. Qiana Hinkle: Okay, it's a PowerPoint presentation. I don't really know exactly what we should uh talk about. It's under evaluation. Ann Way: Right. Qiana Hinkle: Alright. Um so these are the criteria we're gonna ask, is it easy to use, is it fashionable uh I guess we should down so we can Ann Way: Mm. Qiana Hinkle: reference them. Kristin Jones: Feel good meaning what? Qiana Hinkle: Like does it feel good, Kristin Jones: Physically, Qiana Hinkle: like yeah, physically. Ann Way: Right. Kristin Jones: okay. Ann Way: Sqi Qiana Hinkle: That's just for current trend. Ann Way: Right. Qiana Hinkle: It doesn't really count, you guys. Caitlin Simpson: Yeah, it was a little difficult to incorporate the cover with the cherry fruit on it. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. But it's so we do have removable covers, right? Ann Way: Right. Caitlin Simpson: Yes. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, well then that's covered. And so Ann Way: 'Kay. Qiana Hinkle: we n k everybody have that? Ann Way: I'll wait. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, she's got it. It's Kristin Jones: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: good. Yeah. Okay so, we're using the criteria uh for a seven point scale, and so we need to discuss how we feel. It falls within this range, so for easy to use, do we feel it's very easy to use? Ann Way: Are we Kristin Jones: True Ann Way: going Kristin Jones: or false, Ann Way: to indi Kristin Jones: easy Ann Way: I say Kristin Jones: to use. Ann Way: we individually rate what Qiana Hinkle: You Ann Way: do you Qiana Hinkle: guys Ann Way: say? Just Kristin Jones: Yeah. Ann Way: orally. Why not? We have okay. Qiana Hinkle: Okay. Ann Way: Um easy to use. I vote six. Qiana Hinkle: Oh wait, that's false. Ann Way: Oh, two. Qiana Hinkle: Okay. Caitlin Simpson: I'd say two as well. Kristin Jones: Yeah, two. Qiana Hinkle: Two. Ann Way: Uh Qiana Hinkle: That's what I say. Ann Way: hello, we're great. Qiana Hinkle: Okay, fashionable? Ann Way: Um Caitlin Simpson: At the Ann Way: one. Caitlin Simpson: moment, no. Qiana Hinkle: No. Ann Way: No. Qiana Hinkle: I mean like no, I think it's very Ann Way: Qiana Hinkle Qiana Hinkle: fashionable. Ann Way: too, very chic. Qiana Hinkle: I thi I would give it a one. Caitlin Simpson: Okay. Ann Way: One, I give it Caitlin Simpson: I'll Ann Way: a one. Caitlin Simpson: give it a two, because at the moment it's not looking that way. Qiana Hinkle: Well, Ann Way: Oh, Qiana Hinkle: that's Ann Way: and Qiana Hinkle: that's Ann Way: ma it's Qiana Hinkle: just Ann Way: a Qiana Hinkle: like Ann Way: prototype, Qiana Hinkle: that's a clay, it's Ann Way: right. Qiana Hinkle: a prototype. What do you Kristin Jones: Mm Qiana Hinkle: think? Kristin Jones: I don't think it's that fashionable. I'd give it like three or four. Ann Way: Well, Qiana Hinkle: Okay. Ann Way: now I'm. So, the average is about a two. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, it's a two. Kristin Jones: But then I'm not Ann Way: Two Kristin Jones: fashionable, Ann Way: or three. Kristin Jones: so don't Ann Way: Two Kristin Jones: use Ann Way: point Kristin Jones: my opinion. Ann Way: five. Qiana Hinkle: That's okay. Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: Neither Qiana Hinkle: Um Caitlin Simpson: are all o all the customers we have, either. Qiana Hinkle: does it feel good? Ann Way: Imagine, since we obviously don't Qiana Hinkle: I Kristin Jones: Does Ann Way: have Kristin Jones: it Qiana Hinkle: feel Kristin Jones: feel Ann Way: that. Qiana Hinkle: like Kristin Jones: good? Caitlin Simpson: Uh the shape of it actually does uh. Ann Way: And it's i it is very ergonomically designed. It's gonna be curved. Kristin Jones: Yeah, it's gonna be thicker. Ann Way: Yeah. Kristin Jones: Depth. Qiana Hinkle: I think it feels good. Ann Way: I think so too. Qiana Hinkle: I'll give it a two. Ann Way: 'Kay. Two. Kristin Jones: I'll give it a one. Qiana Hinkle: What do you say? Caitlin Simpson: I'd say a two. Ann Way: Alright, Qiana Hinkle: Okay. Ann Way: average is two. Is it technologically innovative? Oh sorry I'm taking over your job Qiana Hinkle: Oh Ann Way: here. Qiana Hinkle: no, it's fine, you're Ann Way: Go right Qiana Hinkle: I mean Ann Way: ahead. Qiana Hinkle: you're Project Manager. Um yeah, I mean and it does it have voice I mean the phrase recognition on it? Ann Way: Yes. Right? We were able to do it with that kind of Kristin Jones: Oh right, the Ann Way: chip. Caitlin Simpson: We could do it with the chip, yes. It wasn't we have no Qiana Hinkle: And Caitlin Simpson: reflection Qiana Hinkle: there's no way you can Caitlin Simpson: of Qiana Hinkle: represent Caitlin Simpson: it on the Qiana Hinkle: it on Caitlin Simpson: prototype, Qiana Hinkle: here. Ann Way: Yeah, Caitlin Simpson: but that's Ann Way: right. Caitlin Simpson: because Qiana Hinkle: Y Caitlin Simpson: it's Ann Way: That Caitlin Simpson: only Ann Way: was Caitlin Simpson: two dimensions, Ann Way: 'kay. Caitlin Simpson: really. Ann Way: And we discussed that Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, Kristin Jones: Right. Ann Way: being Qiana Hinkle: so. Ann Way: included. Qiana Hinkle: Then yes, then I would well it isn't what else would it need Caitlin Simpson: It Qiana Hinkle: for it to be technologically innovative? Ann Way: Well we don' have the you know, we can't say channel, and it changes the channel, Qiana Hinkle: And Ann Way: channel Qiana Hinkle: it doesn't Ann Way: eight. Qiana Hinkle: cover anything other then T_V_, so Ann Way: Right. Qiana Hinkle: I'd probably give it a three. Caitlin Simpson: Yeah. Ann Way: Okay. Qiana Hinkle: Even though it is for just a T_V_ remote it's uh very advanced. But it is just a T_V_ remote. Ann Way: Yeah. I'd go for a three or four on that one, so Kristin Jones: Yeah I go four. Ann Way: okay, let's go for a three point five. Caitlin Simpson: Three and an half. Ann Way: Alright, and the last criteria is it is it um Kristin Jones: Squishy and fruity. Ann Way: Well, Qiana Hinkle: Well Ann Way: we've covered that with Kristin Jones: It's Ann Way: the Kristin Jones: just trendy, basically. Ann Way: trendy. Qiana Hinkle: yeah, so I'd give it a two. Caitlin Simpson: It's Ann Way: Sure. Caitlin Simpson: capable of being Ann Way: Capable. Caitlin Simpson: squishy Qiana Hinkle: Oh, it's very Caitlin Simpson: and Qiana Hinkle: capable Ann Way: Very Caitlin Simpson: fruity. Ann Way: capable. Qiana Hinkle: of being squishy and fruity. Kristin Jones: Okay. Ann Way: And it's very important. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: 'Kay, there we go. Qiana Hinkle: Okay, Ann Way: So. Qiana Hinkle: next. Ann Way: Next. Qiana Hinkle: So um our re model slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie appears to be a winner, and uh hopefully we'll sell millions. Good job, team. Caitlin Simpson: How did you get that in there? Qiana Hinkle: What? Caitlin Simpson: The slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie. Qiana Hinkle: It it does. Ann Way: It does. Caitlin Simpson: That was good. Qiana Hinkle: Thanks. Ann Way: Very good. Alright, let's go back to this No, that's it. Hmm. Oops. Okay, so now uh we're moving on to finance, okay. I'm gonna show you an Excel spreadsheet and we're going to fill it in together based on what components we're including in our remote and see if it's under twelve fifty Euro. If so, we can proceed, if not, we need to go back to the drawing board a little bit. 'Kay? So let Qiana Hinkle bring that up. Here we go. Alright. Um it's not hand dynamo, it's powered by battery, Caitlin Simpson: Yep. Ann Way: so we give it a Qiana Hinkle: Two. Ann Way: Number of components you plan to use. Do I just put quantity being one battery, or Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: Mm 'kay. Ann Way: But if it's a do you wanna go for this is where we need to make a final call on if it's a lithium or do we wanna go triple A_s, 'cause triple A_s we're gonna have t do more than one battery. Oh, let's just go for a lithium. What do you say? Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, let's Caitlin Simpson: Yeah, Qiana Hinkle: let's do a lithium. Ann Way: I think Caitlin Simpson: it's. Ann Way: uh I think Qiana Hinkle: We're gon Ann Way: the people Qiana Hinkle: that's gon Ann Way: who purchase this are gonna be technologically Qiana Hinkle: Nologically advanced, Ann Way: right. Qiana Hinkle: yeah. Ann Way: Okay, down to the electronics um section. We're gonna need this kind, correct, Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: if we do Caitlin Simpson: Yep. Ann Way: the voice sensor, so one of those. It is a single-curved, so one of those. Qiana Hinkle: Uh. Ann Way: Oh. What's that? Yeah, that's Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: correct. 'Kay, down here, Kristin Jones: It's Ann Way: case Qiana Hinkle: We Kristin Jones: plastic. Ann Way: material. Qiana Hinkle: plastic. Ann Way: Plastic. Qiana Hinkle: And Kristin Jones: And Qiana Hinkle: special Kristin Jones: special Qiana Hinkle: colour. Kristin Jones: colour. Ann Way: 'Kay. Down here, interface type. We're gonna have the integrated scroll scroll Kristin Jones: No, we Ann Way: wheel. Kristin Jones: don't have the scroll. Ann Way: Isn't oh those are just regular Qiana Hinkle: But Ann Way: buttons. Qiana Hinkle: it's Caitlin Simpson: Well, Kristin Jones: Buttons. Caitlin Simpson: that's the push-button too, right there. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, but i Ann Way: This? Qiana Hinkle: so Caitlin Simpson: Integrated Qiana Hinkle: i Caitlin Simpson: scroll-wheel or push-button. We're really having just push-button interface. Ann Way: Okay, so we can just go um. Qiana Hinkle: But will we w actually we'll need two, won't we? One for the top and then one for the s one e for each side. Caitlin Simpson: But it that just covers the type of button we're having. Because we're not doing a scroll on the side, it's still push-button. Kristin Jones: Oh like the twenty nine means like you have both scrolls and Caitlin Simpson: Push-button. Kristin Jones: push-buttons. Qiana Hinkle: Okay. Ann Way: Right Caitlin Simpson: But we just Ann Way: I Kristin Jones: But Ann Way: think Kristin Jones: we Caitlin Simpson: have Kristin Jones: don't Ann Way: she's Kristin Jones: have Caitlin Simpson: push Kristin Jones: any scrolls. Ann Way: I think what Courtney's talking about is do we need to put two Qiana Hinkle: Like Ann Way: here? Qiana Hinkle: because there's like one interface right here and then because it's not gonna be on the same plane when you press the button. There's Ann Way: Right. Qiana Hinkle: gonna have to be Caitlin Simpson: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: additional signals on the sides. So Caitlin Simpson: Okay. Qiana Hinkle: is that gonna be an extra one on each side? Ann Way: I don't know, they might put us well, let's Kristin Jones: Two interfaces, Ann Way: just. Kristin Jones: is that what w should we Caitlin Simpson: Let's Ann Way: Two Kristin Jones: s Caitlin Simpson: call Kristin Jones: say? Ann Way: or Caitlin Simpson: it th Ann Way: would Qiana Hinkle: Or Ann Way: it Qiana Hinkle: three, Ann Way: be three? Qiana Hinkle: because of one on each side and Kristin Jones: Okay, Qiana Hinkle: one on Kristin Jones: fine. Qiana Hinkle: top. Kristin Jones: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: I mean it's fine 'cause it comes out the same as twenty nine. Well less than twenty nine even. Caitlin Simpson: Okay. Ann Way: Okay and we're gonna button supplements the buttons are no Qiana Hinkle: They're Ann Way: uh Qiana Hinkle: a special colour. Ann Way: okay. Qiana Hinkle: Um they're uh they're a special form, 'cause Ann Way: Are Qiana Hinkle: they're Ann Way: they? Qiana Hinkle: indented. Ann Way: Oh, right. Kristin Jones: And Qiana Hinkle: And, Kristin Jones: then Qiana Hinkle: they're Kristin Jones: s Qiana Hinkle: a special material. Kristin Jones: yeah. Ann Way: Mm. Well, we're under cost then. Alright. Kristin Jones: We're over? Ann Way: No, Caitlin Simpson: Grand. Qiana Hinkle: We're Ann Way: we're Qiana Hinkle: under. Ann Way: under. Twelve Kristin Jones: Okay. Ann Way: point five is our limit. Kristin Jones: Oh, Ann Way: We've Kristin Jones: I see. Ann Way: got eleven point two. Caitlin Simpson: So Ann Way: Alright. Caitlin Simpson: we can go to production. Ann Way: We can go to Ann Way: I dunno what I just did. Okay. Now we're gonna talk about the project process um and whether or not we're satisfied with the whole process and the result. Um did we have a lot of room for creativity? Did we have a lot of room for individual leadership, um teamwork, and the means, meaning the technology that we used to produce our little guy there, we found any new ideas. Now, question is, how do we do this? Caitlin Simpson: Go back. Qiana Hinkle: I think we just discuss it. Ann Way: Discuss, Caitlin Simpson: Previous. Ann Way: sure. Alright. Who want who would like to go first? Caitlin Simpson: We think Kristin Jones: We didn't Caitlin Simpson: we got Kristin Jones: have Caitlin Simpson: stifled Kristin Jones: a whiteboard. Caitlin Simpson: for cri creativity by the company itself, in restricting us only to using a T_V_ remote, Ann Way: Hmm. Caitlin Simpson: initially. Kristin Jones: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: Oh Ann Way: Hmm. Qiana Hinkle: that's true. Kristin Jones: And no internet. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. No, yeah, that's a good point. 'Cause I'd forgotten that that wasn't our decision, yeah. Ann Way: And how did you feel about the whole the whole process though? Qiana Hinkle: Oh, overall I mean I thought we did a good job like We got to choose basically we had control over minus it being just merely a T_V_ remote we got to choose what we wanted to do with it. Ann Way: Right, and we got say over what how technologically advanced it should be and also how fashionable, which I kind of Qiana Hinkle: And we're a fashion forward Ann Way: like Qiana Hinkle: technology Ann Way: we Qiana Hinkle: company. Ann Way: yep. You Caitlin Simpson: right. Ann Way: know it. Um what about um the teamwork aspect? How did you guys enjoy making the model, the prototype? Kristin Jones: I think we did well. Caitlin Simpson: Yeah. Ann Way: I think ya' did. Did you work well together in there, and Kristin Jones: Yep. Caitlin Simpson: Well, Ann Way: 'kay. Caitlin Simpson: no, there Qiana Hinkle: Minus Caitlin Simpson: was Qiana Hinkle: that one Caitlin Simpson: there Qiana Hinkle: fight. Caitlin Simpson: was scratching and fighting, Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: but Ann Way: Oh my Caitlin Simpson: no. Ann Way: God, Kristin Jones: Gouges. Ann Way: and we've all been a pretty congenial team here, I think. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: We hadn't Qiana Hinkle: I Ann Way: had any ma Qiana Hinkle: mean Ann Way: fallings Qiana Hinkle: minus you Ann Way: out. Qiana Hinkle: guys being wha what is it, the survey, annoying or Caitlin Simpson: Irritating. Qiana Hinkle: what is it? Ann Way: Irritating. Qiana Hinkle: Irritating, Kristin Jones: Irritating. Qiana Hinkle: yeah. Wow that's a it's definitely a strong one. Ann Way: Okay. Caitlin Simpson: The means, the whiteboard didn't work. Kristin Jones: And Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: Yeah. Kristin Jones: no internet. Ann Way: I have to knock that one down a couple Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, Ann Way: notches. Qiana Hinkle: and no internet. Caitlin Simpson: A and our friend here really feels Kristin Jones: Misses. Caitlin Simpson: strongly about the internet. Kristin Jones: I do. Qiana Hinkle: And the digital Kristin Jones: There's so much available. Qiana Hinkle: the Kristin Jones: Like Qiana Hinkle: digital Kristin Jones: it's information Qiana Hinkle: pens Ann Way: Yeah, digital pens. Qiana Hinkle: were they Caitlin Simpson: I Qiana Hinkle: were pretty Caitlin Simpson: really Qiana Hinkle: cool. Caitlin Simpson: appreciated Ann Way: They were fine. Caitlin Simpson: those, yeah. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah they were fun, even though I'm not really sure what I could do with them, but they are awesome. Caitlin Simpson: The use of the laptops for receiving everything. It Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: Right, Caitlin Simpson: was Ann Way: laptops are Caitlin Simpson: wireless Ann Way: extremely handy, Caitlin Simpson: too, so. Ann Way: wireless. Qiana Hinkle: And these things Ann Way: And Qiana Hinkle: whoa. Ann Way: that we have a shared network where we can put all of the Kristin Jones: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: And let's not forget the sexy dual microphones everyone gets Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: to wear. Qiana Hinkle: And Big Brother. Ann Way: Big brother. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: 'Kay, have we found any new ideas through this process? Qiana Hinkle: Um we are really gonna sell this. Ta-da. Ann Way: For something that looks cool and also has what I want it to b do technologically. Kristin Jones: Yeah. Ann Way: And that's your right brain taking over, w wanting the artistic, the fashionable, the hip, Qiana Hinkle: Mm-hmm. Ann Way: you know. If we all just went out and bought useful things, I don't think I mean that's not Kristin Jones: Well, Ann Way: what Kristin Jones: that's Ann Way: technology. Kristin Jones: why I don't like uh Macs or Apples, just 'cause I look at it, and I know it's probably a very good computer, but I look at it, and I'm taken back to elementary school, 'cause they look the same. Ann Way: Mm. Kristin Jones: They Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Kristin Jones: look like they did when I was in elementary school, Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, Kristin Jones: and Qiana Hinkle: 'cause Kristin Jones: that's Qiana Hinkle: they're Kristin Jones: so old-fashioned Qiana Hinkle: pretty and Kristin Jones: to Qiana Hinkle: just Kristin Jones: Qiana Hinkle. Qiana Hinkle: like Caitlin Simpson: The Toronto Ann Way: Yeah. Caitlin Simpson: district school would only use his Macs with their kids. Kristin Jones: Exactly, so I associate them with like really low-tech, Ann Way: Yeah. Kristin Jones: really cheap, Ann Way: Just the Mac Kristin Jones: bad Ann Way: font bothers Qiana Hinkle: Uh yeah. Ann Way: Qiana Hinkle Kristin Jones: Yeah. Ann Way: even. But I do like iPods, go figure. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah, no, iPods They want all those words for Ann Way: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: presentation, Caitlin Simpson: Well, Qiana Hinkle: even Caitlin Simpson: i Qiana Hinkle: the Caitlin Simpson: iPods Qiana Hinkle: plugs. Caitlin Simpson: are now quite trendy, and Ann Way: Mm-hmm. Caitlin Simpson: they come in different colours. Ann Way: Colours. Exactly. Caitlin Simpson: Yeah. Ann Way: I mean how many people went out and bough a Nokia phone, back when we were like in high school, just so they could get the changeable face Qiana Hinkle: Oh Ann Way: plates. Qiana Hinkle: yeah, everybody. Ann Way: Okay. Anyway, Caitlin Simpson: Not Qiana Hinkle. Ann Way: so Qiana Hinkle: Mine Ann Way: that Qiana Hinkle: is Kristin Jones: But the Ann Way: is Caitlin Simpson: I Kristin Jones: my Caitlin Simpson: didn't Ann Way: definitely Qiana Hinkle: amber. Caitlin Simpson: have a phone Ann Way: at work. Caitlin Simpson: 'til university. Kristin Jones: but my Qiana Hinkle: Oh. Kristin Jones: one issue is just like the whole it's for T_V_ only. I was like who's gonna buy a remote just for the T_V_ unless they've lost theirs. Qiana Hinkle: Look at Ann Way: Yeah. Qiana Hinkle: it. That is a piece Ann Way: Fashionable Kristin Jones: You're kidding. Qiana Hinkle: of Ann Way: chic Qiana Hinkle: work. Ann Way: people Qiana Hinkle: Wow. Ann Way: will. Kristin Jones: No, Qiana Hinkle: Marketing Director says yeah. Fashionable Kristin Jones: no. Qiana Hinkle: people Kristin Jones: No, marketing Qiana Hinkle: will buy Kristin Jones: has Qiana Hinkle: it. Kristin Jones: to actually create the desire for it. Qiana Hinkle: Oh, I will create Caitlin Simpson: That's okay. Qiana Hinkle: desire. Caitlin Simpson: We can create a commercial where they think that all their needs will be met. This Kristin Jones: Ri Caitlin Simpson: will help them find Ann Way: Hmm. Caitlin Simpson: the one. Kristin Jones: They'll be sexy with it. Caitlin Simpson: That's right. Qiana Hinkle: that's the fig-leaf. Kristin Jones: Oh right. Qiana Hinkle: Mm. That'll sell. Ann Way: There you Kristin Jones: Let Ann Way: go, Kristin Jones: you Caitlin Simpson: And Ann Way: marketing. Kristin Jones: loose. Caitlin Simpson: so the serpent says, use our remote. Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Ann Way: Alright. Kristin Jones: Yeah, Qiana Hinkle: Yeah. Kristin Jones: no. Ann Way: Okay, we're gonna wrap this up now. Um the costs are within the budget, we evaluated the project, and now we're gonna complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary, and then we're going to have a big giant party, apparently, according to this, so. Caitlin Simpson: Whoohoo. Ann Way: Alright, thank you team, Caitlin Simpson: Margaritas Ann Way: you did a great Caitlin Simpson: for everyone. Ann Way: job, it was lovely working with you. Kristin Jones: Good. Qiana Hinkle: You too. Caitlin Simpson: Yay. Thanks to the Project Leader. Now we know w	Kristin Jones and Caitlin Simpson presented the prototype and displayed its gunmetal color, removable casing, buttons, logo, and ergonomic design. Qiana Hinkle gave an evaluation of the prototype using the group's initial criteria for the remote. The group decided that enough of their initial ideas and criteria for the remote were satisfied to be able to continue with the project. Ann Way analyzed the final production cost; the cost was lower than initially projected, at 11.2 Euros. The group decided to use one lithium battery instead of several triple A alkaline batteries. Ann Way then led a discussion on the project process. The group felt that they worked well together and were pleased with the prototype. They complained, though, that they felt constrained by the management's directives, that they had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment, and that they did not have internet access during the project. All participants were instructed to fill out a final questionnaire.	4	amisum	train
Laurel Parker: Here we go. Welcome everybody. Um, I'm Abigail Claflin. You can call Diana Eller Abbie. 'S see. PowerPoint, that's not it. There we go. So this is our kick off meeting. Um and I guess we should all get acquainted. Let's shall we all introduce ourselves? Diana Eller: Hi I'm Chiara, I'm the um Marketing Expert Um. would you like Diana Eller to talk about my aims at the moment, or would you like Diana Eller to just say my name and then we can talk about business Laurel Parker: I think Diana Eller: later? Laurel Parker: we'll get around to that, yeah. Diana Eller: We'll Laurel Parker: So Diana Eller: get Laurel Parker: this Diana Eller: round Laurel Parker: is Diana Eller: to Laurel Parker: just Diana Eller: that later. Laurel Parker: introductions Diana Eller: My Laurel Parker: yeah. Diana Eller: name is Chiara and I'm Diana Eller. Laurel Parker: Okay. I forgot to s say I'm Laurel Parker but I figured you all knew that already, um so. Carrie Cooper: I'm Stephanie I am Carrie Cooper. Sharon Albright: I'm Krista and I'm Sharon Albright. Laurel Parker: Okay. Um so f here's our agenda for today. Um we're gonna do some tool training, project plan and discuss then close. Um so. So our aim is to produce a remote control that is original, trendy and user friendly. And to do this, we have to um there's certain things we have to consider about functional aspects and conceptual design of the thing. So. We'll get to that. Oh there it is. Right. Functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. So throughout our next couple of meetings we'll we'll be covering these things. Um so we're gonna try out our white board. If we'll all draw our favourite animal, to sum up the characteristics of that animal. Carrie Cooper: So Laurel Parker: Okay. Carrie Cooper: you want us to draw it and then talk about it? Or just draw it? Diana Eller: I think both. Laurel Parker: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: Okay. Why don't Laurel Parker: Both. Carrie Cooper: we do both. Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: Who starts? Carrie Cooper: Right. Diana Eller: We ought to decide who starts and all that. No? Laurel Parker: Any Diana Eller: Uh-huh. Laurel Parker: volunteers? Does anyone know what they wanna draw? Carrie Cooper: Mm, I gotta think about it for a second like. Uh Does it have to be functional, trendy and user friendly? Laurel Parker: I don't think so. Carrie Cooper: Um. Okay, I'll draw. I'll draw one. Make sure my things here. Carrie Cooper: Uh-oh. Carrie Cooper: Right. Carrie Cooper: Okay, my favourite animal is see. Carrie Cooper: Oops. Laurel Parker: A dolphin. Carrie Cooper: Yeah, it's Laurel Parker: 'S like playing Pictionary. Carrie Cooper: Yeah, I guess it has a fin on top too, yeah. Carrie Cooper: It's my dolphin. Laurel Parker: So what characteristics do you like about your animal? Carrie Cooper: I like its tail. Um, no, I think dolphins are really uh I dunno, they're smart and they they're cute and they like swimming and that's cool, like Laurel Parker: They're graceful. Carrie Cooper: they're graceful yeah, and they're so Laurel Parker: Sleek. Carrie Cooper: Yeah they're sleek and they look intelligent and I don't know, they're I guess it's the whole like binocular Laurel Parker: I don't know how Carrie Cooper: vision Laurel Parker: intelligent Carrie Cooper: thing. Laurel Parker: that one looks. Carrie Cooper: Yeah he he doesn't look that smart. He's a I dunno um they're I think it's cool the the um the interaction that or the th things that the reasons people seem to like you know you get ex you know people are sitting on the beach and p they're like oh look there's dolphins and it's kinda like but they're you know they jump around in the water and they're happy and they're mammals, but they Laurel Parker: Yes. Does Carrie Cooper: swim. Laurel Parker: anybody else wanna draw their animal? Sharon Albright: Suppose I can draw an animal, yeah. Laurel Parker: Uh-oh there goes the ten. It's a cat. Sharon Albright: Yeah. I don't know. They sleep all day, they're easy to draw. Laurel Parker: Do you wanna Diana Eller: Uh yeah. Laurel Parker: anything? I dunno Diana Eller: Well Laurel Parker: if Diana Eller: I Laurel Parker: the Diana Eller: had Sharon Albright: I think the pen is Laurel Parker: the Sharon Albright: running out of Laurel Parker: ah. Diana Eller: spare one. So I'll use the spare one. Um but it's harder to draw Carrie Cooper: And Diana Eller: um. Carrie Cooper: the pen's dying. Diana Eller: Um. Laurel Parker: A Diana Eller: Uh. Laurel Parker: horse. Carrie Cooper: Horse. Diana Eller: Um I don't really know Laurel Parker: That's Diana Eller: how Laurel Parker: very Diana Eller: the legs Laurel Parker: good. Diana Eller: go, but anyway I will do that. Um, and the main reason is they're pretty. I think they're very pretty and they go well with the environment, and I like the way they run and I used to do horse riding and they're just very sort of sturdy and nice animals. And I like the way um they feel, sort of under under the hand, I think that's pretty much it. Um Laurel Parker: Yeah. Laurel Parker: This cord's Laurel Parker: Uh. Right. Actually I haven't thought of anything yet. Uh Laurel Parker: It's a pig. So I'm thinking we should design a remote control that's water resistant, strong and furry. What do you think, yeah? Carrie Cooper: And furry. Laurel Parker: This is yeah, well like a cat, you know, Carrie Cooper: Textile Laurel Parker: soft yeah. Carrie Cooper: tactile, tactile remote Laurel Parker: Although Carrie Cooper: control. Laurel Parker: uh I'll just put there. Right. Carrie Cooper: You're dragging a you have a tail. Laurel Parker: Oh my gosh, this is disastrous. Sorry about that. Okay. So moving on. Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro. So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland, we're in some European country. Um, and we will hope to sell this internationally. Carrie Cooper: Sorry can you just say that what's the what are our price goals again? Laurel Parker: Um selling price is twenty five Euro. Carrie Cooper: Okay. Laurel Parker: Profit aim fifty million Euro. Diana Eller: How many should we sell then? Um, a lot, Laurel Parker: Anyone Diana Eller: two Laurel Parker: a mathematician? Diana Eller: two two million, two mi no, more f four million. Sharon Albright: Two million. Diana Eller: Four million. And it well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve Sharon Albright: Oh, Diana Eller: fifty, Sharon Albright: yeah. Diana Eller: that'll do four million. Diana Eller: It is a lot. Uh. Laurel Parker: So f that's a fifty percent um uh. Um, I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show. Experience with remote control. So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient, practical, nice remote control. Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons Diana Eller: Um, Laurel Parker: it should have. Diana Eller: I think one thing is that it should be easy to find Carrie Cooper: I was Diana Eller: bec Carrie Cooper: thinking that too. Diana Eller: yeah Laurel Parker: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: I Diana Eller: bec Carrie Cooper: think we should design something that has like a so you can like somehow like you I mean you always know where your T_V_ is, so just have a call button, I've always wanted that, Diana Eller: Yeah, Carrie Cooper: so Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: yeah Carrie Cooper: like Diana Eller: yeah Carrie Cooper: you Diana Eller: yeah Carrie Cooper: can push Diana Eller: yeah. Carrie Cooper: a button Laurel Parker: I mean Carrie Cooper: on your Laurel Parker: you have Carrie Cooper: T_V_ Laurel Parker: it for the portable Carrie Cooper: Yeah, Laurel Parker: phone, so Carrie Cooper: yeah Laurel Parker: why not Carrie Cooper: yeah Laurel Parker: yeah. Carrie Cooper: yeah, so you should have a call button on your television to Diana Eller: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: be able to find your remote control. Diana Eller: And even I think a little light. Um or even a maybe a vib a vibrating thing. I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: In which case Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound I don't know Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: if it's expensive maybe to Carrie Cooper: I don't yeah I mean it Diana Eller: Maybe call is enough. But yeah. Carrie Cooper: but like I mean just I mean like your phone even just has so Diana Eller: Yeah Carrie Cooper: like Diana Eller: yeah Carrie Cooper: it Diana Eller: yeah. Carrie Cooper: can vibrate, it can light up and make Diana Eller: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: noise and I dunno. Laurel Parker: What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Laurel Parker: You know like a portable Carrie Cooper: Yeah, Laurel Parker: phone Carrie Cooper: or if it Laurel Parker: has Carrie Cooper: had a Laurel Parker: a base, Carrie Cooper: yeah. Laurel Parker: like just to have a home for it. Diana Eller: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Carrie Cooper: Yeah, I mean Laurel Parker: 'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_, but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_, Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Laurel Parker: so Sharon Albright: Well that's why it's always in the couch. Laurel Parker: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: Yeah, in in the couch. I dunno, it seems like though that that would be hard, 'cause Laurel Parker: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: you not you're not gonna be lazy Laurel Parker: Maybe Carrie Cooper: anyway Laurel Parker: we should Carrie Cooper: and Laurel Parker: design couches that have the remote control Carrie Cooper: Yeah Laurel Parker: in Carrie Cooper: so we Laurel Parker: the side Carrie Cooper: the project Laurel Parker: arm. Carrie Cooper: is now couches and Diana Eller: But Carrie Cooper: remote Diana Eller: even Carrie Cooper: controls. Diana Eller: just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing, a pretty object attached to the wall. But that would really Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: make it more expensive. But it's only a plastic thing, r Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: really, Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: the thing on the wall. Something like that. And the other Laurel Parker: Do you Diana Eller: thing Laurel Parker: think it Diana Eller: is Laurel Parker: needs to be bigger to not lose, or does that Carrie Cooper: Bigger. Laurel Parker: not factor Diana Eller: Not Laurel Parker: in? Diana Eller: well it needs Laurel Parker: Like Diana Eller: to be sort of Laurel Parker: Hand Carrie Cooper: Hand-sized. Laurel Parker: hand held Diana Eller: Yeah. Laurel Parker: size, yeah. Diana Eller: I don't think you need a Laurel Parker: Not not huge, but Diana Eller: But definitely not well I don't know. Carrie Cooper: It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it. Diana Eller: No, it can't be, Sharon Albright: No it really Carrie Cooper: Or Diana Eller: uh-uh. Carrie Cooper: like Sharon Albright: wouldn't Laurel Parker: Huh. Sharon Albright: be. Carrie Cooper: or like a light thing. You know. I dunno. Diana Eller: Like spaceship. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: Right. Um Carrie Cooper: Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah. That would be really I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Laurel Parker: Little Carrie Cooper: Euros Laurel Parker: homing Carrie Cooper: a pop. Laurel Parker: device. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Uh. Laurel Parker: Um. Okay. So what do we think this remote control should Five minutes. Diana Eller: Oh dear. Laurel Parker: Till the meeting oh right. This is what we have left. Carrie Cooper: I also Laurel Parker: Um, Carrie Cooper: think though that Laurel Parker: oh Carrie Cooper: it shouldn't Laurel Parker: we just Carrie Cooper: have too many buttons, 'cause I hate Sharon Albright: Yeah, Carrie Cooper: that Sharon Albright: I Carrie Cooper: when Sharon Albright: agree. Carrie Cooper: they have too many buttons and Diana Eller: Yeah, Laurel Parker: Yeah. Sharon Albright: button Diana Eller: yeah yeah. Sharon Albright: and the Carrie Cooper: I Sharon Albright: F_ Carrie Cooper: mean I know Sharon Albright: button, Carrie Cooper: it has Sharon Albright: they Carrie Cooper: to Sharon Albright: don't Carrie Cooper: have Sharon Albright: do Carrie Cooper: enough Sharon Albright: anything. Carrie Cooper: functions but like, I don't know you, just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like, no, you never use half of them. Laurel Parker: You Carrie Cooper: So. Laurel Parker: what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen, so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions. Carrie Cooper: That would be cool. Laurel Parker: Like the Diana Eller: Yeah. Laurel Parker: way a mobile phone does. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. I mean it just seems like Laurel Parker: So you could like Carrie Cooper: yeah. Laurel Parker: um like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels, you can the way you do it on your radio is that you uh what do you call Diana Eller: Select. Laurel Parker: it s y yeah but you Diana Eller: Uh. Laurel Parker: can programme, so you can programme like your favourite channels, so like if you had a s Diana Eller: But, would you have the screen on the thing, or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen. Laurel Parker: That's something we could decide. Carrie Cooper: I Diana Eller: Because Carrie Cooper: guess Laurel Parker: Mm. Carrie Cooper: they would go together somehow? I dunno. Diana Eller: Because, I don't know if it's I think it's e expensive, if you have if you use the telly screen, 'cause the telly's Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: already a screen, then you can pro sort of have a programming function, really easy sort of arrow up and down, on Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: the remote, and then use the telly as a screen. Laurel Parker: Right. Diana Eller: But um Carrie Cooper: I'm thinking Diana Eller: But Carrie Cooper: kind Diana Eller: yeah for Carrie Cooper: of Diana Eller: sure. Something like not it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do, Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: is that what you mean? Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: Right. Mm. Carrie Cooper: Or like you h you see those you know people I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those these things that at their house you know their their entire house is so electronic, and they have like this one master control that and it's like a hand held like turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen, I don't know Diana Eller: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: if it must be it would probably must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno. Diana Eller: But like Laurel Parker: Mm. Diana Eller: mobile phones have screens Carrie Cooper: Yeah, Diana Eller: and they're cheap. Carrie Cooper: yeah. Yeah Laurel Parker: Yeah. Carrie Cooper: that's true. Laurel Parker: I mean, we have to remember our budget is twelve point Diana Eller: Yeah. Laurel Parker: twelve fifty for to actually make the device. Carrie Cooper: Mm. Laurel Parker: Um Carrie Cooper: Well, I guess Laurel Parker: but it's Carrie Cooper: we have Laurel Parker: something Carrie Cooper: to get to Laurel Parker: to Carrie Cooper: that Laurel Parker: think Carrie Cooper: later, Laurel Parker: about, yeah. Carrie Cooper: yeah. Laurel Parker: I mean we'll have to see how much that would be. Diana Eller: Or some it i we can find out probably on the Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: internet how much it's Um. Yeah, and the other thing you said that thing about robust and water um What was the word? Carrie Cooper: Furry. Diana Eller: Water resistant. No but it's I thought, ah, Laurel Parker: was Diana Eller: spot on. Laurel Parker: just Diana Eller: Good feel, tact tactile, Laurel Parker: Yeah. Diana Eller: good tactile feel, maybe something didn doesn't make your hands sweat lot. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Mm, mm. Diana Eller: That's quite annoying. Laurel Parker: Maybe um just like a simple thing to have a clip on it, like so you can clip it to your Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Laurel Parker: like that's another Diana Eller: Yeah, clip. Ooh. Um. Laurel Parker: Um. We should probably start wrapping up, um we've got some initial ideas that we can all look into. Um, and come up with some new ones for the next meeting, which will be in another thirty minutes. Um. So. Yeah. Sharon Albright, what does that stand Sharon Albright: Yeah Laurel Parker: for, Sharon Albright: I think Laurel Parker: I_D_, Sharon Albright: so. Laurel Parker: yeah um is going to be looking more into the working design. So I guess you'd be looking at lots of the things we discussed about screen and um that sort of thing. The something, what is the U_I_? Sharon Albright: User. Carrie Cooper: That's Diana Eller. Laurel Parker: Yeah, what does it stand for again? Carrie Cooper: Uh, User Interface Laurel Parker: User Carrie Cooper: design. Laurel Parker: Interface Designer. So that's gonna be more technical. I guess that maybe the working design has also to do with like the physical feat like just Carrie Cooper: So Laurel Parker: the way Carrie Cooper: technical Laurel Parker: it looks Sharon Albright: The Carrie Cooper: function. Sharon Albright: working Laurel Parker: and Sharon Albright: design Laurel Parker: the way Sharon Albright: is Laurel Parker: it w Sharon Albright: the structure. Laurel Parker: Yeah, yeah. Carrie Cooper: What is technical functions exactl I I don't really know what Laurel Parker: Um, I guess you'd have to find out. Diana Eller: It says Sharon Albright: Um. Diana Eller: on that email Sharon Albright: It Diana Eller: but Sharon Albright: was Carrie Cooper: It Sharon Albright: in Carrie Cooper: does Diana Eller: it Sharon Albright: the email. Carrie Cooper: but it I just don't really Sharon Albright: I wrote down what Diana Eller: It Sharon Albright: mine Diana Eller: said Sharon Albright: were. Carrie Cooper: Yeah. Diana Eller: um It said Carrie Cooper: What effect should the thing ha should it have, okay. Alright. Diana Eller: Yeah like Carrie Cooper: And working design. Okay. Diana Eller: Be a medium between you and the telly Carrie Cooper: Yeah, Diana Eller: I think, Carrie Cooper: yeah. Laurel Parker: Mm. Diana Eller: that's uh Carrie Cooper: Alright. And how it works, okay. Right. I'm I'm on task. Laurel Parker: And the M_E_, what does that stand for? M Sharon Albright: Marketing. Laurel Parker: Marketing, Diana Eller: Marketing. Laurel Parker: right. Diana Eller: Oh it's written Laurel Parker: Um. Diana Eller: here, but um. Laurel Parker: So we'll be working on the user requirements, um Yeah. Diana Eller: Okay. Laurel Parker: So I guess that wraps it up. I'll see you all in thirty minutes. I just did.	The group introduced themselves to each other. Laurel Parker discussed the goals for the project and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. The group practiced using the meeting-room equipment by drawing on the whiteboard. Laurel Parker presented the projected profit and price point. The group discussed their experiences with remote controls. They complained that remotes got lost too easily, and suggested using a locator function. They also complained that remotes had too many buttons, and suggested incorporating a screen to simplify the interface but retain all of the functions. They also suggested making the remote water-resistant and including a clip. Laurel Parker instructed Sharon Albright to research the working design and components, Carrie Cooper to research the technical functions, and Diana Eller to research user requirements.	4	amisum	train
Megan Ruiz: Okay. Cheri Brackett: 'Kay so we'll try to zip through this, since we're short on time. Welcome everybody. Um hope your sessions went well. Um so this is our functional design meeting, we're going to consider um user needs, technical effects, and the working design of our remote control. Um I've been taking meetings on the minute minutes on the meetings, and I'll be putting them in the shared documents folder so if there's anything you need to refer to you can find them in there. Um I'll get the ones up for next time, um they're not finished yet. Right. Um so can we have updates from everyone from what you've worked on just kind of a quick summary of anything interesting that you'd like to share Megan Ruiz: And I can Cheri Brackett: or discuss Megan Ruiz: start if Cheri Brackett: in Megan Ruiz: you Cheri Brackett: this Megan Ruiz: want. Cheri Brackett: sure. Megan Ruiz: Is there an order? No. We haven't Cheri Brackett: Hm? Megan Ruiz: decided on an order. Cheri Brackett: No, Megan Ruiz: First. Cheri Brackett: any any order's fine. Megan Ruiz: Okay. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: Um, how do I put this Savannah Marchese: Just Megan Ruiz: I'll just Savannah Marchese: uh Megan Ruiz: put the cable in. Cheri Brackett: Oh yeah, sorry. Megan Ruiz: Is that it? Can you see? Oh, here. Okay. So what happens it doesn't work? Cheri Brackett: It sh it takes a few seconds I think. Savannah Marchese: You may need to Mary Vandenbosch: Who's that? Megan Ruiz: No. Is it in the Savannah Marchese: But Megan Ruiz: right Savannah Marchese: sometimes Megan Ruiz: thing? Savannah Marchese: you have to do it it's like a three set setting cycle, so press it a couple times, hold down function and then press Megan Ruiz: Oh wait, Savannah Marchese: F_ eight. Megan Ruiz: um. Uh. You need to help Megan Ruiz. Cheri Brackett: Uh-huh, and then press function. Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: and F_ eight. Mary Vandenbosch: Could you just plug it back into hers because Megan Ruiz: Oh, Mary Vandenbosch: she had Megan Ruiz: wait. Mary Vandenbosch: oh. Megan Ruiz: is that it? Savannah Marchese: Adjusting. Cheri Brackett: Here we are. Savannah Marchese: The cable might be a little loose or something. Megan Ruiz: Right Savannah Marchese: Oh, Megan Ruiz: here we Savannah Marchese: you got Megan Ruiz: are. Savannah Marchese: it. Cheri Brackett: Oh. Is it on? Megan Ruiz: We're here. Cheri Brackett: Okay. Megan Ruiz: Okay, um. In order to see what the functional requirements were to be found, um a hundred people were tested in a usability laboratory through just their habits to n know their habits were observed and questionnaires were given out. Um, the findings in in some cases matched what we were talking about. Custome Customers and users don't like the way remote controls look, they don't like the way they feel, they don't think they match their operating behaviour, and an example is what we were talking about, the buttons, they only use ten per cent of the buttons, so later on there's a study of the buttons that they use most and I think we should design according to these buttons. Easy to lose, and R_S_I_. I don't know what R_S_I_ means. Um the person that did the questionnaire obviously did, I don't have a Cheri Brackett: Hm. Megan Ruiz: clue. Um, according to the frequency of use and the relevance of each buttons, I have made a list of the buttons that we should focus on in order of importance. So the most important buttons are those to do with channel selection. They're used about a hundred and sixty times per hour. And um yeah so and and people like to zap a lot apparently, so this is the order. Channel selection, teletext, volume, and power. The other ones are the settings, and they're used less than you know zero point eight to zero point five times per hour, and this means that I think we can we could have like a a button for all the settings, and then, just one, and then from there go on to the audio on the screen, either on the remote or on the television. Um, about the screen, and speech recognition, some people are more willing than others to actually pay for that. And if we look at the market, f people from well from fifteen to thirty five year old year olds, I don't really know how to describe this, um ninety one to seventy six percent of people in that age range are willing to pay more for this sort of product, while people that are above thirty five years ol um years old go from thirty five percent to eight percent, so people that are sixty five for example wouldn't actually pay for this sort of thing. Um I don't I don't know um what the decision to be made is, but I think that the people that actually do buy remotes m more are those like teenagers and young professionals and um, most likely, but we should discuss this together. And that's all I have to say about the matter, Cheri Brackett: 'Kay. Megan Ruiz: um. Shall I what do I do? Do I give this to someone else? Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Just move right on. Mary Vandenbosch: Right. So get this. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay so now I need to press F_ eight, what is it? Cheri Brackett: Uh function Megan Ruiz: Function Cheri Brackett: F_ Megan Ruiz: F_ Cheri Brackett: eight. Megan Ruiz: eight. Mary Vandenbosch: 'Kay. What's function? Cheri Brackett: It's the little blue w it's Mary Vandenbosch: Oh Cheri Brackett: the Mary Vandenbosch: function, Cheri Brackett: one Mary Vandenbosch: I Cheri Brackett: th Mary Vandenbosch: see Cheri Brackett: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: it. There we go. Cheri Brackett: Yeah should be It should be yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Um. This my presentation about the uh technical functions design and I basically just tried to focus on um just what what functions we need and how to make that the best function for the user. So uh and I just sort of like thought about it myself and looked on the internet. And okay so basically um I think i uh like it is really important that we sort of get this done in a user friendly and fashionable way. Um so I think things like uh you know keeping buttons together that like close together that um are used in the same way, uh or um maybe that making 'em the same colour, keeping the number of buttons the uh leas you know to a minimum, and also things like is it is it um is it uh can you c y small enough large enough I'm not sure we c I guess we would need to do some research about, I would, about what size is appropriate and that sort of thing, um but basically we need to make sure that it turns on and off the T_V_. Does it have like capacity to change the channels? Um does it do or do we need to have like functions for cable or V_C_R_? And then, is it findable, and uh how do we wanna do that? And um I just thought that these two remotes were pretty boring, um I dunno if this will work but And I think we can find something that's more fun to look at and use than either of those. Just I mean I like the one on the right better, just because it does have fewer buttons, uh but I mean I think we sh can sort of think about things like um like colour and you know size, shapes, that sort of thing, to best fit the user. That concludes my presentation. Okay. You need the little thingy. Mary Vandenbosch: Ooh. Savannah Marchese: How do I um Megan Ruiz: S Megan Ruiz: That's on view. Oh. Savannah Marchese: Right. Okay so this is on the working design, which is sort of the uh mechanical functions of the remote, um and the method I used was to basically look at and incorporate ideas from our last meeting. Um so I think we need two basic functions which is just the basic remote functions, the user can input a channel or volume setting and it will be output to the T_V_. And also we talked about um a location function where maybe you could press a button on the T_V_ and it would send sort of signal to the remote where it would beep or flash or vibrate or whatever to tell you where the remote is. So the components we need are an energy source to power the remote, um input which would probably be buttons, although um we just talked about voice recognition, processor to take the information, um something to transmit it to the T_V_, and we also need something on the remote that would receive the location signal and have an output, like possibly a beep or a vibration. And also you need a sender for location signal, which would probably be a separate um thing that we'd have to sell with the remote and people could stick it on their T_V_ or stick it on their wall. And this is just sort of an overview of how the remote works. Power comes from the battery, goes to the chip, um and then it is sent from there to an infrared bulb which is probably the easiest way to send to the T_V_. And then for the location function, you would have a sender on the T_V_ which would output some sort of signal, um we could use I_R_ but we'd probably wanna use radio instead. That signal would go to a receiver which it would process it, and it would be output in the form of a buzzer or a light lighting up. Um so my personal preferences for how to build the remote would probably be uh, battery for the energy source, that way you wouldn't have to plug it in, um a button pad for input, um we can purchase a pre-made chip which will handle all the processing stuff, I_R_ transmitter to communicate to the T_V_, that's just sort of standard, um so most T_V_s have an I_R_ receiver. Probably a radio receiver to send out location function and to receive it and I'd probably say a buzzer for the location function on the remote itself. So that concludes my presentation. Cheri Brackett: 'Kay. Mary Vandenbosch: Do you know about like I dunno, Savannah Marchese: Mm? Mary Vandenbosch: you seem like you know about Savannah Marchese: Yeah, uh I d I was an engineer Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Savannah Marchese: before I came here. Mary Vandenbosch: Cool. Cheri Brackett: Okay. Well thank you everybody. Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in. Um, teletext is apparently outdated, so due to internet popularity, so that's off the list. Um, also our remote should be used only for television, um, no extra internet kinda fancy things, just the remote and the television. Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this, so um the phrase is, we put fashion in electronics, so let's be fashionable I guess. Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours, so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw, and yellow writing, something like that. Okay. Um. So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions. Um, yeah. Do Let's I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming, Mary Vandenbosch: Like Cheri Brackett: see Mary Vandenbosch: in terms Cheri Brackett: what we can Mary Vandenbosch: of Megan Ruiz: How it looks Mary Vandenbosch: how Megan Ruiz: or Mary Vandenbosch: it looks, or like what Cheri Brackett: wha Mary Vandenbosch: it does? Cheri Brackett: what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: and I dunno the the s the buttons and what it does and Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: that sort of thing. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: So. Mary Vandenbosch: So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button? So Cheri Brackett: I think that Savannah Marchese: It's Cheri Brackett: seems Savannah Marchese: easy to Cheri Brackett: to Savannah Marchese: implement. Cheri Brackett: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: Mm. Mary Vandenbosch: So Megan Ruiz: the the Mary Vandenbosch: the Megan Ruiz: buzzer you Mary Vandenbosch: yeah, Megan Ruiz: mean, Mary Vandenbosch: yeah, Megan Ruiz: yeah, Mary Vandenbosch: yeah. Savannah Marchese: Locator. Megan Ruiz: for sure, Mary Vandenbosch: So Megan Ruiz: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range, Cheri Brackett: Yeah, Mary Vandenbosch: what Cheri Brackett: teenagers Mary Vandenbosch: was it? Cheri Brackett: and young professionals. Megan Ruiz: Well that's for speech recognition. Mary Vandenbosch: Oh. Savannah Marchese: Well Cheri Brackett: Oh, Megan Ruiz: And screen. Cheri Brackett: uh. Megan Ruiz: That's only for Savannah Marchese: I Megan Ruiz: speech Savannah Marchese: was thinking Megan Ruiz: recognition Savannah Marchese: about Megan Ruiz: and Savannah Marchese: that Megan Ruiz: screen. Savannah Marchese: but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme, and also, Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking, and if somebody says like one, then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one, Megan Ruiz: Yeah yeah Savannah Marchese: or Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: Mm. Megan Ruiz: yeah. Savannah Marchese: it Megan Ruiz: I Savannah Marchese: seems Megan Ruiz: mean Savannah Marchese: like a silly, Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: I'm not sure how you would implement it. Megan Ruiz: I just put the values in. Cheri Brackett: And Megan Ruiz: But Cheri Brackett: if Megan Ruiz: um Cheri Brackett: if you Megan Ruiz: the Cheri Brackett: consider Megan Ruiz: screen Cheri Brackett: our Megan Ruiz: is Cheri Brackett: budget, Megan Ruiz: the same as Cheri Brackett: it Megan Ruiz: what, Cheri Brackett: probably Savannah Marchese: It's a cool idea Cheri Brackett: if you consider Savannah Marchese: but Cheri Brackett: our budget, to Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little Megan Ruiz: Yeah, I'm Cheri Brackett: pricey. Megan Ruiz: happy with Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: that. Completely. Mary Vandenbosch: Hu yeah. Cheri Brackett: Right so um Mary Vandenbosch: Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer Cheri Brackett: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: on the som like on the T_V_ itself. Savannah Marchese: Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_ Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: or on your wall or some place Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: since the T_V_ already has power. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: Yeah you click the button, it's gonna send out a signal, and I was thinking, I_R_ is line of sight, so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work, um so probably like a radio signal like on a Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Savannah Marchese: on a Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: cell phone. Megan Ruiz: Okay. Mary Vandenbosch: Alright. Cheri Brackett: Okay. Savannah Marchese: Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something Savannah Marchese: It would have Cheri Brackett: you Savannah Marchese: to Cheri Brackett: can Savannah Marchese: be sold separately because Cheri Brackett: right. Savannah Marchese: if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to Cheri Brackett: Yeah, Savannah Marchese: find the remote. Cheri Brackett: yeah. Megan Ruiz: So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_, this Savannah Marchese: Yeah, it'd Megan Ruiz: thing? Savannah Marchese: probably just stick it on your T_V_ so Megan Ruiz: Okay. Savannah Marchese: if you need to find the remote, click Megan Ruiz: Okay. Savannah Marchese: the button. Mary Vandenbosch: So it's now like a two-part Savannah Marchese: Yeah, Mary Vandenbosch: thing. Savannah Marchese: so it would be Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Savannah Marchese: a two part package. Mary Vandenbosch: Alright. Megan Ruiz: Okay. Mary Vandenbosch: So we get to design that too. Make it fashionable. Um, okay. Cheri Brackett: So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals. Savannah Marchese: Yeah I think Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: so. Cheri Brackett: Huh. Megan Ruiz: Just there. Cheri Brackett: Okay. Megan Ruiz: Mm. Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it. Do you Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now? Cheri Brackett: We probably leave that. I mean I guess one takes care of the other, Megan Ruiz: Okay. Cheri Brackett: like Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's Mary Vandenbosch: Then it can live anywhere. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: Okay. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: For the so you have that button, that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio? Savannah Marchese: Um Megan Ruiz: Are we just Savannah Marchese: on the Megan Ruiz: having Savannah Marchese: T_V_ Megan Ruiz: a radio? Savannah Marchese: or on the phone? Megan Ruiz: On the phone. Savannah Marchese: Um Mary Vandenbosch: T Savannah Marchese: it seemed Megan Ruiz: You don't Savannah Marchese: like a Megan Ruiz: need a light. Savannah Marchese: a beep seemed the most Megan Ruiz: Yeah Savannah Marchese: reasonable Megan Ruiz: yeah Savannah Marchese: to Megan Ruiz, Megan Ruiz: yeah. Savannah Marchese: I think Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: that's what the phone Megan Ruiz: Yeah Savannah Marchese: has, Megan Ruiz: yeah. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: I mean when you need to find your phone, you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out Cheri Brackett: And Savannah Marchese: that it's Cheri Brackett: like Savannah Marchese: in the Cheri Brackett: if Savannah Marchese: couch Cheri Brackett: the Savannah Marchese: or Cheri Brackett: if Savannah Marchese: wherever. Cheri Brackett: the phone's under the couch, you Megan Ruiz: You Cheri Brackett: might Megan Ruiz: can Cheri Brackett: not Megan Ruiz: hear Cheri Brackett: see the Megan Ruiz: it's Cheri Brackett: light, Megan Ruiz: under the Cheri Brackett: so Megan Ruiz: couch yeah. Cheri Brackett: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: So Megan Ruiz: Um, Mary Vandenbosch: i Yeah. Megan Ruiz: So need the other buttons. So we have this Cheri Brackett: So Megan Ruiz: mm. Cheri Brackett: I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember Megan Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Cheri Brackett: who Mary Vandenbosch: That Cheri Brackett: showed Mary Vandenbosch: was Cheri Brackett: them, Mary Vandenbosch: that Cheri Brackett: yeah Mary Vandenbosch: was Megan Ruiz. Cheri Brackett: you you did um, they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing, and the other looked like just Mary Vandenbosch: I Cheri Brackett: television. Mary Vandenbosch: think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general Cheri Brackett: Oh really. Mary Vandenbosch: remotes. And Cheri Brackett: 'Cause that Mary Vandenbosch: uh Cheri Brackett: that is something we have to decide, is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international? Cheri Brackett: They're not Megan Ruiz: They're not, Cheri Brackett: no. Megan Ruiz: no. Savannah Marchese: Okay, so you'd Mary Vandenbosch: S Savannah Marchese: need like a whole different Cheri Brackett: Yeah, Savannah Marchese: set of buttons Cheri Brackett: that's Megan Ruiz: It Savannah Marchese: for Cheri Brackett: right, Savannah Marchese: everybody's Megan Ruiz: not Cheri Brackett: yeah. Megan Ruiz: V_H_S_ Savannah Marchese: V_C_R_s. Cheri Brackett: But Megan Ruiz: here? Cheri Brackett: D_V_D_ probably is. Savannah Marchese: Yeah, other than that region and coding thing. Mary Vandenbosch: Um Megan Ruiz: But V_C_R_s Cheri Brackett: And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers, I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type, Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: that's Megan Ruiz: Yeah, Cheri Brackett: the Megan Ruiz: for Cheri Brackett: the Megan Ruiz: sure. Cheri Brackett: technology Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: Mm-hmm. Cheri Brackett: these days. Mary Vandenbosch: So. Okay, let's see if I can I think still though, it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know, Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: like 'cause if you just have like one menu button, that works like with a you know, or you can just kind of scroll through the Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: options u Megan Ruiz: Well Mary Vandenbosch: that Megan Ruiz: for Mary Vandenbosch: come Megan Ruiz: sure Mary Vandenbosch: up Megan Ruiz: we Mary Vandenbosch: on the Megan Ruiz: need Mary Vandenbosch: T_V_. Megan Ruiz: the um I think we can just design the channels? I mean power's Cheri Brackett: S Megan Ruiz: just a button, Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: Mm-hmm. Cheri Brackett: Huh. Megan Ruiz: and it's not used that much, s and Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: it's usually that red Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: and I think it's quite nice to keep it like Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: red. Cheri Brackett: You know, I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one, like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on. So you don't actually have a separate power button, Megan Ruiz: Oh Cheri Brackett: it's Megan Ruiz: okay, Cheri Brackett: just Megan Ruiz: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: It seems like that would be Cheri Brackett: But Mary Vandenbosch: hard though. I mean, like because unless you Cheri Brackett: It might Mary Vandenbosch: know Cheri Brackett: be confusing. Mary Vandenbosch: yeah. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: be like uh why is there no on Cheri Brackett: Besides Mary Vandenbosch: button. Cheri Brackett: you like to be able Savannah Marchese: Yeah, Cheri Brackett: to go Savannah Marchese: I never Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: power. Savannah Marchese: think to hold something Cheri Brackett: I Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: down. Mary Vandenbosch: B Cheri Brackett: have the power Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: I guess. So we definitely want a power button and numbers. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: Right. Megan Ruiz: Well even um iPod thing, like um, I don't know if people like this Mary Vandenbosch: That Megan Ruiz: scrolling Mary Vandenbosch: sort of like Megan Ruiz: I Mary Vandenbosch: joystick Megan Ruiz: don't know. Mary Vandenbosch: flat Cheri Brackett: Mm. Mary Vandenbosch: touch Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: thing, yeah. Megan Ruiz: Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah, Megan Ruiz: four Mary Vandenbosch: yeah. Megan Ruiz: five Mary Vandenbosch: I think that's an interesting idea, 'cause Cheri Brackett: Mm. Mary Vandenbosch: it's cool, it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I, you know, I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day, and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily, like it's not that hard, Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: you know. Megan Ruiz: Yeah yeah, it's just and it's one thing Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah, Megan Ruiz: which has Mary Vandenbosch: and Megan Ruiz: everything. Mary Vandenbosch: it is yeah. It is really but do you need a screen then, do you have to have a screen then? Megan Ruiz: Well can't it tell the like can't you Savannah Marchese: Yeah, you Megan Ruiz: if Savannah Marchese: can Megan Ruiz: you Savannah Marchese: have the number going Megan Ruiz: you Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: can Savannah Marchese: around Megan Ruiz: have the number Savannah Marchese: in the corner. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Megan Ruiz: on the telly going Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: like one two three four five Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: once you scroll Mary Vandenbosch: Okay Megan Ruiz: and then Mary Vandenbosch: so we Cheri Brackett: Oh Mary Vandenbosch: have Cheri Brackett: that's Mary Vandenbosch: this Cheri Brackett: gonna Mary Vandenbosch: like scrolling sort of button. Cheri Brackett: Is that like on Mary Vandenbosch: Like a Cheri Brackett: on Mary Vandenbosch: disc. Cheri Brackett: a mouse pad where Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: like kind Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: of Mary Vandenbosch: It's Cheri Brackett: okay. Mary Vandenbosch: like it's just like the same Cheri Brackett: I've Megan Ruiz: It's Cheri Brackett: never Megan Ruiz: like Mary Vandenbosch: technology Cheri Brackett: used Megan Ruiz: l Cheri Brackett: one. Mary Vandenbosch: as a mouse Megan Ruiz: this Cheri Brackett: No. Mary Vandenbosch: pad. Megan Ruiz: like that, and Cheri Brackett: Okay. Megan Ruiz: then you do that. Cheri Brackett: Okay. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Yeah Megan Ruiz: And Mary Vandenbosch: and Megan Ruiz: then Mary Vandenbosch: then. Megan Ruiz: you can have um if you actually just want to zap, you can have like a thing like that, and that, and then it can just be plus and minus. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it Megan Ruiz: Yeah, Mary Vandenbosch: oh Megan Ruiz: you can Mary Vandenbosch: so it's just Cheri Brackett: Well Mary Vandenbosch: a region Cheri Brackett: i Mary Vandenbosch: of the circle that you can Megan Ruiz: Yeah, click Mary Vandenbosch: zap. Megan Ruiz: o actually Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Megan Ruiz: click Cheri Brackett: We could Megan Ruiz: on to Cheri Brackett: we could Megan Ruiz: have Cheri Brackett: even have four buttons, like, if that's the if that's the mouse, you could have the volume Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: and the channel changers Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: just like on that as well. Mary Vandenbosch: be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to Savannah Marchese: Doesn't Mary Vandenbosch: okay. Savannah Marchese: it rotate though, so it'll be Mary Vandenbosch: Well Savannah Marchese: moving Mary Vandenbosch: y you Savannah Marchese: around. Mary Vandenbosch: have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like Megan Ruiz: What do you mean the function? Mary Vandenbosch: I mean like okay, 'cause so I dunno, I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it, it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise. That that means you're gonna go up the channels, and then you Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: scroll the other way and it'll go down. Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: Mm-hmm. Mary Vandenbosch: But then so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way, that's that way and volume is up and down. Megan Ruiz: Yeah but it knows for some Mary Vandenbosch: It Megan Ruiz: reason. Mary Vandenbosch: just Megan Ruiz: The iPod knows. Mary Vandenbosch: It just kno the iPod knows. S Savannah Marchese: If it works on an iPod then it works. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: Huh. Mary Vandenbosch: So you just you just Savannah Marchese: I don't Mary Vandenbosch: can Savannah Marchese: have Mary Vandenbosch: either Savannah Marchese: one. Mary Vandenbosch: do this or like you can just touch it if you want. Megan Ruiz: Well for the volume you have to press the middle, Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. That's Megan Ruiz: and Mary Vandenbosch: what Megan Ruiz: then Mary Vandenbosch: I mean. Okay. Megan Ruiz: go up. Mary Vandenbosch: Okay so you have to like Savannah Marchese: Oh. Mary Vandenbosch: press this middle region and then you can scroll up, go up Megan Ruiz: And Mary Vandenbosch: and down. Megan Ruiz: then Cheri Brackett: So Megan Ruiz: well Cheri Brackett: it's like Megan Ruiz: if you Cheri Brackett: holding Megan Ruiz: do that it goes, but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down Cheri Brackett: You can Megan Ruiz: here, Cheri Brackett: o Megan Ruiz: that I've seen. Cheri Brackett: And you you is there an extra actual button? Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down. Megan Ruiz: Well what you Cheri Brackett: Like Megan Ruiz: for the Mary Vandenbosch: It's Megan Ruiz: iPod Mary Vandenbosch: like a b Megan Ruiz: you press an w right if you're on the channel let's Cheri Brackett: Mm-hmm. Megan Ruiz: say, then you press on the middle Cheri Brackett: Mm-hmm. Megan Ruiz: and then if you do that again the volume goes up, and Cheri Brackett: Right. Megan Ruiz: if you do that it goes down. Cheri Brackett: Mm-hmm. Megan Ruiz: But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here, I'm pretty sure Cheri Brackett: this for channels, right, Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow? Like you could just have Megan Ruiz: I don't know, you Cheri Brackett: Oh, Megan Ruiz: could click Cheri Brackett: like Megan Ruiz: and then have it up and Mary Vandenbosch: Like Megan Ruiz: down, Cheri Brackett: Oh Megan Ruiz: but Cheri Brackett: you Megan Ruiz: I think Cheri Brackett: could actually Mary Vandenbosch: I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the Megan Ruiz: Yeah Mary Vandenbosch: iPod. Megan Ruiz: yeah Savannah Marchese: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: But Megan Ruiz: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: the only thing is like, iPods are so expensive, like, it has to be is that part of Cheri Brackett: Is that what makes them Mary Vandenbosch: yeah, Cheri Brackett: expensi I think Mary Vandenbosch: I Cheri Brackett: it's Mary Vandenbosch: dunno, Cheri Brackett: all of they Mary Vandenbosch: I dunno. Cheri Brackett: have Savannah Marchese: I don't Cheri Brackett: so Savannah Marchese: think Cheri Brackett: much Savannah Marchese: so. Cheri Brackett: memory though, Mary Vandenbosch: You don't Cheri Brackett: that's Mary Vandenbosch: think so? Cheri Brackett: it's Savannah Marchese: I Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Savannah Marchese: don't think it's the Megan Ruiz: I think Savannah Marchese: wheel Megan Ruiz: it Savannah Marchese: dealy. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: I think Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand Savannah Marchese: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: songs Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: or something. Mary Vandenbosch: I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod Savannah Marchese: re-programmable Mary Vandenbosch: just has that Savannah Marchese: aren't Mary Vandenbosch: circle Savannah Marchese: they? You Mary Vandenbosch: thing Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: can put Mary Vandenbosch: you Savannah Marchese: on Mary Vandenbosch: know. Savannah Marchese: your songs and then put on a Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: different set, that's Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: probably why they're expensive, Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: they're like little Cheri Brackett: S Savannah Marchese: computers. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Well like since it just has the circle thing, you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape, like it could be a cool Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: sort of Savannah Marchese: Mm-hmm. Mary Vandenbosch: you know, because it could be circular, Megan Ruiz: Yeah Mary Vandenbosch: you Megan Ruiz: yeah Mary Vandenbosch: know, Megan Ruiz: yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: or something weird like Megan Ruiz: Well Mary Vandenbosch: that, Megan Ruiz: it could Mary Vandenbosch: just Megan Ruiz: just be simple instead of being a l mass. Because, the other thing, I didn't tell you all my presentation, is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: and that's Cheri Brackett: Mm. Megan Ruiz: another thing they complained about. Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Megan Ruiz: Um, what other buttons were there? Volume oh we've ts just said that. Mary Vandenbosch: So okay. Megan Ruiz: Channel selection. Mary Vandenbosch: This is just for T_V_, it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with Savannah Marchese: I Cheri Brackett: Um Savannah Marchese: A D_V_D_ is simple, you just have play, Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: pause, Mary Vandenbosch: So Megan Ruiz: Menu. Mary Vandenbosch: how do Cheri Brackett: You Savannah Marchese: eject, Mary Vandenbosch: you Cheri Brackett: know Mary Vandenbosch: switch Cheri Brackett: actually our our new project requirements, Savannah Marchese: and Cheri Brackett: I'm Savannah Marchese: menu Cheri Brackett: not sure Savannah Marchese: maybe. Cheri Brackett: if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not Savannah Marchese: Oh yeah. Cheri Brackett: internet type things. So I'll I'll Mary Vandenbosch: Okay. Cheri Brackett: check that and update you on the next Mary Vandenbosch: So like if we had Cheri Brackett: But Mary Vandenbosch: that Cheri Brackett: we'll hold off on that 'cause Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah. Cheri Brackett: But s yeah Megan Ruiz: But Cheri Brackett: uh. Megan Ruiz: D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote. Mary Vandenbosch: That's true, yeah. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: So, I know I'm not c really Savannah Marchese: But it's Mary Vandenbosch: clear Savannah Marchese: cool Mary Vandenbosch: on Savannah Marchese: to have Mary Vandenbosch: what Savannah Marchese: it all on one, because Megan Ruiz: Yeah, Savannah Marchese: you Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah, Savannah Marchese: wanna turn Megan Ruiz: yeah, Savannah Marchese: it Mary Vandenbosch: yeah. Megan Ruiz: yeah. Savannah Marchese: on then you wanna turn up the volume, and then you wanna go to Cheri Brackett: Mm. Savannah Marchese: the menu, Megan Ruiz: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: So Savannah Marchese: so Mary Vandenbosch: you'd have Cheri Brackett: Mm. Mary Vandenbosch: to have like Savannah Marchese: you don't Mary Vandenbosch: I Savannah Marchese: wanna Mary Vandenbosch: think Savannah Marchese: switch. Mary Vandenbosch: you would have to have like a function switch button, you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_, you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_, Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Mary Vandenbosch: or you're like. Savannah Marchese: Well Mary Vandenbosch: So Savannah Marchese: but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons. Megan Ruiz: Yeah, it Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah, Megan Ruiz: is Mary Vandenbosch: but Megan Ruiz: only Mary Vandenbosch: I mean Megan Ruiz: fun Mary Vandenbosch: like to switch Cheri Brackett: But Mary Vandenbosch: the fun Cheri Brackett: i Mary Vandenbosch: so like to switch the function of the little circle disc, the touch Savannah Marchese: Oh. Mary Vandenbosch: pad. Cheri Brackett: Yeah. Savannah Marchese: But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna Mary Vandenbosch: Yeah but it it Savannah Marchese: but Mary Vandenbosch: would Savannah Marchese: volume Mary Vandenbosch: be Savannah Marchese: is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch. Mary Vandenbosch: So but I'm saying like, does it make sense to have like some kind of a button, so like you're if you're on T_V_, like you can switch channels, but then if uh if you're on D_V_D_ then like the channel bu like the the region of the disc that was for channels is for like switching to different tracks or s you know, to different I mean do we need to think about that, that like Cheri Brackett: Um, Savannah Marchese: Yes we Cheri Brackett: yeah, Savannah Marchese: can try Cheri Brackett: let's Savannah Marchese: that. Cheri Brackett: think about it 'cause we need to wrap up. Um Megan Ruiz: Okay. Cheri Brackett: let's see. Um so everyone's gonna go finish their questionnaire, uh then when we come back after lunch we'll have thirty minutes of individual work, um yeah, so think about the things we've discussed and bring some new ideas to our next meeting. See you soon.	Megan Ruiz gave a presentation about user requirements as shown through a usability study and demonstrated that only a small number of functions on a remote were used with frequency. She suggested focusing the interface design on the most frequently used functions. Mary Vandenbosch presented some questions that should be considered in making the device user-friendly and displayed two existing remote controls for comparison. Savannah Marchese discussed the necessary internal components and how they operated together, and presented her preferences for the type of each component to be used. Cheri Brackett gave the group several new requirements for the project. The group discussed several product features and decided that the remote will feature a locator function and will not feature speech recognition. The group discussed whether or not the remote should control multiple devices. They discussed important button functions to include and increasing usability by incorporating a scroll wheel in the design. Cheri Brackett instructed the other participants to fill out a questionnaire and to work on their individual presentations for the next meeting.	4	amisum	train
Melina Mezzatesta: Hi everyone, hope you had a nice lunch Um. Alright we're moving on to conceptual design. Carleen Denton: 'Scuse Annie Bryant. Annie Bryant: Bless you. Melina Mezzatesta: Um, I'll just review what we did in our last meeting. Um, under marketing we targeted our audience, and Um, yeah. That was generally how helpful that was. Um, then we considered some design options with how it should look, um, we discussed an iPod-like button system which, uh, we haven't concluded but we're Right, um So if, you all have presentations to do, we can see what where you've come from our last time. Does everyone have Esther Snyder: Hmm. Melina Mezzatesta: presentations? Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yes. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Esther Snyder: Yes. Melina Mezzatesta: Would anybody like to go first? Esther Snyder: Sure. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Esther Snyder: So I've been looking at the components design. Um. Mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting. Um, so we need some custom design parts, and other parts we'll just use standard. Um, I assume we'll be custom designing our case, probably a hard plastic or some other material case, to protect the remote and the locator. And we'll need to custom desi design a circuit board, because the board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time. But once we come up with a design we'll send it to the circuit people and they'll just print it out. Um, standard parts include the buttons and the wheels, um the iPod-style wheel. The infrared L_E_D_ is actually gonna be included in the circuit board that comes with it. Um, we need a radio sender and receiver, those are standard. And al we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote. So we have some material options. Um, we can use rubber, plastic, wood or titanium. Um, I'd recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it's really heavy. Um, and the rubber case requires rubber buttons, so if we definitely want plastic buttons, we shouldn't have a rubber case. Melina Mezzatesta: And Esther Snyder: And, Melina Mezzatesta: why not wood? Esther Snyder: hmm? Melina Mezzatesta: And why not wood? Esther Snyder: Uh, well we can use wood. I don't know why we'd want to. Um and also we should note that if we want an iPod-style wheel button, it's gonna require a m qu slightly more expensive chip. We can't use the minimal chip, we need the next higher grade, which is called regular. I don't think it's much more expensive, but it is more expensive. So that's what I've got on design. Melina Mezzatesta: 'S good. Annie Bryant: Um, can I do next? 'Cause I have to say something about the Melina Mezzatesta: Hmm. Annie Bryant: material Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: which is quite shocking. Annie Bryant: Ha. Mm. Annie Bryant: Right, um, I have been searching the current trends, um, both on the web and via fashion-watchers, and the findings are that the first thing to aim for is a fashion uh, fancy look and feel. Um. Next comes technologic technology and the innovations to do with that. And th last thing is the easy to use um factor Um. fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing, but I suppose that is included in in the ease of use. Um, our fashion-watchers in Milan and Paris have decided, well noticed, that f the fruit and vegetable theme is the is the current trend and and therefore um we need to go for that if we want, you know, wh whatever our motto is. Um. For fashion, Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Annie Bryant: we go for fashion. The fashion in electronics. So we want to put the fashion electronics, we need to go fruit and vegetables. And also go for a spongy feel, so the the question of our technology whate is Industrial Designer. As to the material should be limited to I don't know how spongy it can be, should discuss this together, I don't know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that's the way to go. Um. I I have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and I prefer fruits to vegetables, but that's just a personal opinion. I think I think people like to have a fruit instead of a vegetables in their sitting room. Uh those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed, so that still has to do with the material discuss should we print the fruit stuff, or should the actual remote look like a fruit? Um, and finally again with the spongy. It has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our Industrial Designer should look into that or find come up with a solution that's better than mine. Um, yeah, to summarise these are the points that need to be um, touched in order to get a good decision, and hopefully our User Interface has more to say about the matter. Carleen Denton: Mm-hmm. Annie Bryant: Thank you for your attention. Carleen Denton: So. Melina Mezzatesta: I think it's the next Carleen Denton: Oh, Melina Mezzatesta: it's Carleen Denton: uh, Melina Mezzatesta: the blue one, Carleen Denton: there Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Carleen Denton: we go. Uh. Okay. Um. Well so that fruit and vegetables thing huh. I actually wasn't aware of the new trends in electronics and Annie Bryant: Neither was I. Well Carleen Denton: and Annie Bryant: it's Carleen Denton: uh Annie Bryant: a trend in fashion, in clothing and um Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah but Annie Bryant: fabrics. Melina Mezzatesta: you're not gonna wear your remote control. Carleen Denton: So so okay, let Annie Bryant get this right. Okay, uh Okay, alright anyway. Um here we go. Conceptual User Interface. Trying we're gonna to about, um what kind of uh how people are actually going to be using this iPod-ish remote control, based on fruit vegetable design. And, um, basically, so, this is a touched ba a touch-based graphical interface system. Uh, so people are going to be looking at this little screen. Um, kind of I mean I assume, are we still on the screen idea? Melina Mezzatesta: Oh we s hadn't discussed it last Carleen Denton: 'Cause if Melina Mezzatesta: time. Carleen Denton: we're gonna have to ha if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the um the wheel Melina Mezzatesta: You need a screen Carleen Denton: you Melina Mezzatesta: for Carleen Denton: it seems Melina Mezzatesta: it? Carleen Denton: like you would need a screen. Esther Snyder: You need a screen with music because you're looking for a specific song, like you know that band or whatever. Carleen Denton: But like if you Esther Snyder: With Carleen Denton: think Esther Snyder: T_V_ Carleen Denton: about Esther Snyder: channels Carleen Denton: it Esther Snyder: it's, you know, one two three. Carleen Denton: yeah Esther Snyder: So Carleen Denton: but if so is it just okay. So, b you you're gonna have to switch to like D_V_D_ and like other things like that, aren't Melina Mezzatesta: We're, Carleen Denton: you? Melina Mezzatesta: um, we're Carleen Denton: Are Melina Mezzatesta: actually Carleen Denton: we Melina Mezzatesta: not having D_V_D_, that was Esther Snyder: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: one of th I Carleen Denton: Okay. Melina Mezzatesta: I was sorry, I I Carleen Denton: Alright. Melina Mezzatesta: meant to update you on that. Carleen Denton: Okay. Melina Mezzatesta: Um. Annie Bryant: But the screen can come up on the telly, the Carleen Denton: Okay. Annie Bryant: she said. That Carleen Denton: Okay. Esther Snyder: Yeah. Annie Bryant: correct? Carleen Denton: So anyway if well we just we need to Okay so if we're not gonna have a screen I think I was thinking okay. So basically it's just gonna be a wheel then? And you're just gonna I mean I think you're gonna have to have some kind of a Annie Bryant: Graphical Carleen Denton: right. Annie Bryant: interface? Carleen Denton: Yeah Annie Bryant: Uh Carleen Denton: like you're Annie Bryant: on Carleen Denton: g Annie Bryant: the you can have it on the telly though. Carleen Denton: yeah Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: like you're gonna have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay we're not choosing that, I guess. But like choose channel control, like if you wa Because people aren't gonna be able to have like, um, you know, channels one two three four five six seven eight nine. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: So that people seems to be Melina Mezzatesta: You've Yeah, Carleen Denton: well Melina Mezzatesta: I know what you're saying, Carleen Denton: You know. Melina Mezzatesta: you have Carleen Denton: But Melina Mezzatesta: to Carleen Denton: you're gonna have to scroll to get channels. So um I guess that's wh why I was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because So that people can go arou go back and forth and choose if or or then again if you just I guess I c I can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the T_V_ Annie Bryant: Yeah, Carleen Denton: like what channel you're on. Annie Bryant: yeah, Carleen Denton: You can Esther Snyder: Yeah. Carleen Denton: just Annie Bryant: yeah. Carleen Denton: scroll and Annie Bryant: Yeah, Carleen Denton: you can just get Annie Bryant: yeah. Carleen Denton: to like five or like twelve or Melina Mezzatesta: But Esther Snyder: My flatmates Melina Mezzatesta: but imagine Esther Snyder: actually Melina Mezzatesta: someone Esther Snyder: had Melina Mezzatesta: with Esther Snyder: one with Melina Mezzatesta: s Esther Snyder: a wheel, and it it did show up Carleen Denton: I Esther Snyder: on the T_V_. Carleen Denton: oh yeah? Melina Mezzatesta: But i what if you have satellite and you have like two hundred channels. Then to Carleen Denton: 'Cause Melina Mezzatesta: get to channel Carleen Denton: you'll Melina Mezzatesta: one Carleen Denton: have Melina Mezzatesta: eighty Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: to Melina Mezzatesta: nine Carleen Denton: like Melina Mezzatesta: you have to Esther Snyder: They have to Carleen Denton: but Esther Snyder: r Carleen Denton: you can Esther Snyder: wheel Carleen Denton: quickly Esther Snyder: really fast. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: s you can Esther Snyder: But I think the wheel goes through like a hundred Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Yeah, Esther Snyder: channels, Annie Bryant: yeah, yeah. Esther Snyder: at least on theirs. Carleen Denton: Yeah if you do, it w so it would have to be you I mean so you basically just kinda need to figure out like what kind of, you know, range we need to have on the wheel, and um So you're either you're you know, th you're either doing this motion to like control the channels or like once once you stop that, you know, you can like tap for, um, Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: different uh, whatchamacallits, different um, you know, functions like volume or, like you can tap just to get to different channels. Like if you just wanted to go to like from five to six you could tap or someth Melina Mezzatesta: Right. Carleen Denton: And then there's also the concern about you know um how do you get to the menu if you wanna change the brightness of your television, or if you want to um you know switch around, I don't know, like, these different modes like turn on the timer or like Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah Carleen Denton: something something like that, like Melina Mezzatesta: I mean with that many options, you'd uh I'd think that the screen would be better, because Carleen Denton: I would think Melina Mezzatesta: you Carleen Denton: so Melina Mezzatesta: could have Carleen Denton: too, Melina Mezzatesta: that Carleen Denton: like Melina Mezzatesta: menu option, sort of Carleen Denton: So I mean and it seems it w it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it, you know, because Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: but then again it would it does make kind of if the screen's sort of just like an option that, like, is just there and you're not really using it, that's kind of Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Esther Snyder: It's Carleen Denton: m Esther Snyder: more expensive Carleen Denton: yeah. Esther Snyder: according to the design Melina Mezzatesta: Uh. Esther Snyder: people. Carleen Denton: Yeah, that's the only Esther Snyder: You have Carleen Denton: thing Esther Snyder: to Carleen Denton: though. Esther Snyder: get a an advanced chip if you wanna have a screen in, which is more expensive than the regular chip, which is more expensive than the Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: minimal. Carleen Denton: So then basically Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Carleen Denton: it has to have some way to get to get to a mode on the television where you're doing, um You can get to you know, you can Like maybe it'll be that central button Annie Bryant: Yeah, Carleen Denton: that, Annie Bryant: yeah, Carleen Denton: like, Annie Bryant: yeah. Esther Snyder: Mm-hmm. Carleen Denton: then Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Carleen Denton: you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the T_V_ Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: and you can just Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: scroll around, Melina Mezzatesta: So Carleen Denton: like, Melina Mezzatesta: the T_V_ Carleen Denton: to do Melina Mezzatesta: is Carleen Denton: the timer, Melina Mezzatesta: the screen, Carleen Denton: to do the Melina Mezzatesta: that Carleen Denton: yeah, Melina Mezzatesta: yeah Carleen Denton: yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: So it would have all these different options Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: of changing Carleen Denton: But the remote Melina Mezzatesta: to Carleen Denton: itself isn't really Annie Bryant: Look Carleen Denton: cluttered Annie Bryant: it even Carleen Denton: up. Annie Bryant: has settings. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Carleen Denton: Hmm? Annie Bryant: On the Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: you can just Carleen Denton: Yeah, Annie Bryant: take theirs Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: well we Annie Bryant: and Carleen Denton: don't want the Annie Bryant: just Carleen Denton: screen I guess, but um 'cause that just it does seem like, it that would be, like, incredibly expensive, but I dunno, and then so, it just im really all you need is, like, this little wheel then, and you can control everything. So Melina Mezzatesta: Um, right. What if I mean, if you're thinking of the design of it now, like the a you know, physical attributes, Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: um, and you just have this, it's like just a long silver thing, or whatever we're thinking. I mean are you you gonna have any buttons on that besides power and this thing? Or Carleen Denton: It doesn't seem that you would need anything besides pow I mean and the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: longer than one second and it turns on the T_V_. Melina Mezzatesta: So can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before. I Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: mean Carleen Denton: Yeah definitely. Like, Melina Mezzatesta: okay. Carleen Denton: I think we're looking at something that could be, like like even maybe like a cir I'm f I'm seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing. Annie Bryant: Yeah Carleen Denton: I mean Annie Bryant: but Carleen Denton: it Annie Bryant: should Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: be Carleen Denton: it Esther Snyder: Yeah. Annie Bryant: comfortable. Carleen Denton: needs to be easy Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: I mean how do how do I'm not really Like when I use an iPod, I end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, I've Carleen Denton: So Melina Mezzatesta: seen some people just going like that Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: with their Annie Bryant: Yeah Melina Mezzatesta: thumb, Carleen Denton: Or your thumb Annie Bryant: I use Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Carleen Denton: or something. Annie Bryant: it like that. Esther Snyder: W Carleen Denton: So Esther Snyder: when we had the wheely remote control, we it was on the top I think, if you held it like that. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah, Melina Mezzatesta: But, Carleen Denton: so Melina Mezzatesta: were there buttons on there as well? Esther Snyder: Yeah well it had the wheely thing and then it had those eighteen different buttons Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Esther Snyder: that I don't know what they do. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Mm Esther Snyder: So Carleen Denton: yeah. Esther Snyder: we just used the top part. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah, Annie Bryant: Uh. Carleen Denton: so but I mean I think it could be pretty small. Like, I d I mean, you you want it to be large enough that you can Melina Mezzatesta: What if, um, you had like a b a cover that went over buttons that you don't use very much? Like you so you could slide it up if you needed to like change the contrast or something like that? So the options are there but they're not in interfering with the design and the practicality of it. Carleen Denton: But can't you just Melina Mezzatesta: Do do Carleen Denton: get Melina Mezzatesta: you know what I'm talking Esther Snyder: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: about though? Like, uh, yeah just Esther Snyder: Yeah Melina Mezzatesta: something Esther Snyder: like Carleen Denton: K Esther Snyder: maybe something on the side Annie Bryant: Well you Esther Snyder: where Annie Bryant: can Esther Snyder: you Annie Bryant: have it on Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, Annie Bryant: the settings, Esther Snyder: slip a Melina Mezzatesta: that Esther Snyder: panel Melina Mezzatesta: you can flip Esther Snyder: down Annie Bryant: no? Esther Snyder: and it's Melina Mezzatesta: over, Esther Snyder: got a Melina Mezzatesta: yeah, Esther Snyder: whole Carleen Denton: Yeah, Esther Snyder: bunch of Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Carleen Denton: But, I mean, do you need that? If if you can get to, you know if so long as you're able to bring up the menu on the T_V_ screen. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah I mean I guess Esther Snyder: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: that's the Carleen Denton: That Melina Mezzatesta: thing Carleen Denton: keeps Melina Mezzatesta: is Carleen Denton: it Melina Mezzatesta: is if w I Carleen Denton: really Melina Mezzatesta: if we can do this, that'd probably Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: be Carleen Denton: Uh you wouldn't I don't I just don't think you would even need it. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, yeah. Carleen Denton: So Melina Mezzatesta: So I Carleen Denton: Mean Melina Mezzatesta: guess we have to look into the, um, like, the programming, how this how they actually programme these things, Esther Snyder: Oh Melina Mezzatesta: and if Esther Snyder: how they Melina Mezzatesta: that's Esther Snyder: make the menu show up on Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Esther Snyder: the T_V_? Carleen Denton: I mean Esther Snyder: I Carleen Denton: you can Esther Snyder: don't Carleen Denton: do Melina Mezzatesta: I Esther Snyder: know. Carleen Denton: it, Melina Mezzatesta: mean Annie Bryant: They already Melina Mezzatesta: it would Annie Bryant: do Melina Mezzatesta: y Annie Bryant: it. Melina Mezzatesta: would Carleen Denton: you it's Esther Snyder: I Carleen Denton: it Esther Snyder: believe Carleen Denton: doesn't Melina Mezzatesta: that Esther Snyder: it's Carleen Denton: seem Melina Mezzatesta: would Esther Snyder: ins Carleen Denton: that Melina Mezzatesta: be Carleen Denton: hard. Esther Snyder: it's gotta be inside the T_V_, not inside the remote. Carleen Denton: I mean I've never bought Esther Snyder: I'm Carleen Denton: a Esther Snyder: not Carleen Denton: remote. Esther Snyder: sure. Carleen Denton: It sounds like this remote's going to be purchased separately from the television, which Esther Snyder: Well Carleen Denton: is a little Esther Snyder: they usually are. Well Carleen Denton: My I've never bought just a remote, like, so Annie Bryant: No. Carleen Denton: I don't I don't really Melina Mezzatesta: Huh. Carleen Denton: know. But um Esther Snyder: I guess that's right. It always comes with the T_V_. Carleen Denton: So, um but I mean it's I've never had a hard time with like my remotes, like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever, you know. And I don't think that should uh that should be too hard. Esther Snyder: Yeah, it most of the ones we've had have had the menu button, 'cause it's not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: 'Cause it just doesn't come up every day or something. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Well so So, do we need I dunno. Well I guess we have to you know think about But I mean you just basically need the output signal Esther Snyder: Mm-hmm. Carleen Denton: you know to Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: be able to bring it up. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Carleen Denton: That's what it does anyway. Annie Bryant: But also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out, because the problem with buttons is you like, they have these sort of abbreviations and Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: Yeah. Annie Bryant: codes Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, Annie Bryant: that you're supposed Melina Mezzatesta: you Annie Bryant: to understand, Melina Mezzatesta: don't know they mean, Annie Bryant: and Melina Mezzatesta: yeah, Annie Bryant: I never Melina Mezzatesta: it's Annie Bryant: get Melina Mezzatesta: like Annie Bryant: it. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Never Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Annie Bryant: ever. So Carleen Denton: So, but oh, you mean if we have this screen like the iPod screen? Annie Bryant: Well on the telly. Esther Snyder: Or on the T_V_ Carleen Denton: On the Esther Snyder: too. Carleen Denton: telly, okay, yeah. So yeah I think, I mean, I think I think the touch-based graphical interface is a really uh cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now I hit this you know, you have your little guide out and you're like, hit this button twice, like Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Carleen Denton: to Annie Bryant: Mm. Melina Mezzatesta: And it is technologically Carleen Denton: activate the date. Melina Mezzatesta: innovative in a way, so Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: that Carleen Denton: I guess. Melina Mezzatesta: fits with the Carleen Denton: And it is trendy, Melina Mezzatesta: B Carleen Denton: the iPods are Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: really hot right now, Annie Bryant: Did you Carleen Denton: so Annie Bryant: did you get that pc picture on did they provide you with that picture Carleen Denton: Um, Annie Bryant: on the web? Carleen Denton: yeah, by web research, yeah, so Annie Bryant: That's quite interesting. What are we going to do about this vegetable thing that I'm dreading? Melina Mezzatesta: Oh Carleen Denton: Oh. Melina Mezzatesta: god. Esther Snyder: Oh, I was gonna say. You said uh people want spongy. Um, Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: one of your one of the material options is a sort of rubber that's in like those stress ball things. So, Carleen Denton: Oh, okay, that Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: would Melina Mezzatesta: Ah. Carleen Denton: be cool. Esther Snyder: that would be spongy. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Mm. Annie Bryant: Just nice feel, but I hate spongy. Carleen Denton: Yeah, c Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: that's e that would be kind of oh, you know, usually like the touch pad things are kind of a hard plastic typ mouse type, Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: you know, thing. But what if Melina Mezzatesta: I Carleen Denton: we Melina Mezzatesta: mean Carleen Denton: ha Melina Mezzatesta: definitely the area Carleen Denton: what if Melina Mezzatesta: round Carleen Denton: we had like Melina Mezzatesta: it. Carleen Denton: a spongy sort of like stress balley kinda so you're like Esther Snyder: Yeah I think it could work. Carleen Denton: Or what Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: if we integrated the the uh the f what if the whole thing about the fruit and vegetables we somehow made it tactilely fash you know, we c tapped into that, so like it feels like Annie Bryant: Well Carleen Denton: a vegetable. Annie Bryant: it could be Melina Mezzatesta: An Annie Bryant: like Melina Mezzatesta: orange. Esther Snyder: Don't think Annie Bryant: mobiles Esther Snyder: I'd want it to feel Annie Bryant: that just Esther Snyder: like a banana. Annie Bryant: you just put a cover. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: If it's a small thing, you c instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana, which frankly I'm not particularly fond of, um you could just have covers and then your mobile f it's like a mobile phone thing. You know you Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: had Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: there was a time when they had all these different covers Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: You Annie Bryant: for Esther Snyder: could Annie Bryant: mobiles. Esther Snyder: do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit, apple machine and they have like the blueberry, Annie Bryant: Yeah, Esther Snyder: like all Annie Bryant: yeah, Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Esther Snyder: the colours Annie Bryant: yeah. Esther Snyder: are named after fruits. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: You could name it after fruits and vegetables, Annie Bryant: And Carleen Denton: or Annie Bryant: it could the colour can fit your sitting room, so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry, and then if you have a green one you can have well I don't know. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Um. Melina Mezzatesta: So Carleen Denton: So Melina Mezzatesta: what Carleen Denton: I think Melina Mezzatesta: if what Carleen Denton: yeah, colours. Melina Mezzatesta: this is I'm just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking. If you have like that stress ball material kind of as what you're actually holding in your hand, so like what you're feeling is comfortable, and then there's more of a hard plastic thing Annie Bryant: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: where that thing is. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: And on that hard plastic thing you can change either the colour or the fruit or vegetable that's on there. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Is that kind of I 'cause I I'm thinking of silver because those are our company colours. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Um Carleen Denton: Unfortunately they don't have silver fruits and vegetables. I do I dunno. Um Melina Mezzatesta: I mean how are you how are you all envisioning by what we've just the feedback we've just got about the Annie Bryant: Maybe a ball. Melina Mezzatesta: A ball? Annie Bryant: Know, a squashy ball. A relaxing squashy ball. Carleen Denton: That's in the shape of a fruit, like a Annie Bryant: That you can p well I see you're thinking, it's weird, you're thinking the opposite of Annie Bryant 'cause you're thinking you change the the hard bit Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: and I'm thinking how do you change the hard would you put a um sticker sort of? Because I was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit, like a Melina Mezzatesta: This is just Okay. Annie Bryant: Oh, Melina Mezzatesta: Say Annie Bryant: okay, Melina Mezzatesta: that's the s say that's Annie Bryant: yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: the squashy bit. Squashy. Annie Bryant: Yeah I was thinking of getting a cover for Melina Mezzatesta: That see I was thinking Annie Bryant: Which is Melina Mezzatesta: this Annie Bryant: cheaper. Melina Mezzatesta: s sorry Annie Bryant: Well I don't know if it's cheaper Melina Mezzatesta: I was Esther Snyder: Oh. Melina Mezzatesta: thinking Annie Bryant: actually. Esther Snyder: Mm. Melina Mezzatesta: this bit here would be the cover and like that's your actual Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: thing. And like this Carleen Denton: Oh I like Melina Mezzatesta: you Carleen Denton: that Melina Mezzatesta: could have Carleen Denton: shape. Melina Mezzatesta: like you could have like cherries and Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: things around there. Um Esther Snyder: I was thinking Melina Mezzatesta: but Esther Snyder: sort of a single ball shape. Melina Mezzatesta: I Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: was thinking if Esther Snyder: So Melina Mezzatesta: it Esther Snyder: you're Melina Mezzatesta: was Esther Snyder: holding Melina Mezzatesta: like this Esther Snyder: a Melina Mezzatesta: 'cause Esther Snyder: squishy Melina Mezzatesta: the way Esther Snyder: ball Melina Mezzatesta: you were Esther Snyder: and Melina Mezzatesta: describing Esther Snyder: then it has a Melina Mezzatesta: the the iPod and the thi the roll thingy Carleen Denton: It's like it Esther Snyder: Mm-hmm. Carleen Denton: has to be s yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: It's almost like your thumb is farther up, Esther Snyder: Yeah I guess so. Melina Mezzatesta: it lower Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: then Annie Bryant: Yeah. So it wouldn't be very big in either like how big? This big, and then you just do that, Carleen Denton: What Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, Carleen Denton: if, yeah, Melina Mezzatesta: I Annie Bryant: I Melina Mezzatesta: know Annie Bryant: suppose. Melina Mezzatesta: what Carleen Denton: what Melina Mezzatesta: you Carleen Denton: if Melina Mezzatesta: meant, Carleen Denton: the squishy, Melina Mezzatesta: yeah. Carleen Denton: oh so so you're saying the squishy part's like detachable, and you can so so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing, and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice, you know? Annie Bryant: Well just a li I can't des like condom thingy, like a a cover. But well the question is, which one's easiest to change can just Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: contact our relevant department for that, and Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: just see what the cost is for covering that or covering Carleen Denton: Yeah, Annie Bryant: that, Carleen Denton: yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Annie Bryant: and for now we can do two prototypes maybe and then Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: hi try and ask users Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Annie Bryant: what the best is, and Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: No. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Carleen Denton: Oh. Annie Bryant: Um. That's nicer. I think it's Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: nicer to have a drawing 'cause it's neater. Melina Mezzatesta: Hmm. Annie Bryant: Um. Melina Mezzatesta: Well that's not very neat, but Carleen Denton: Yeah. I mean I think uh and I think the handhe I think the handheld part is definitely So you could make that into the fruit and vegetable part. Annie Bryant: If it's a bit like those juggling balls, you can change shape according to your to the way you hold Esther Snyder: Yeah Annie Bryant: it. Melina Mezzatesta: Mm-hmm. Annie Bryant: If Esther Snyder: you could Annie Bryant: it's Esther Snyder: squish Annie Bryant: got sand Esther Snyder: it. Annie Bryant: in it maybe, or something, Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: you it it just moulds to your hand. Carleen Denton: Yeah. So where are the fruit and vegetables now? Annie Bryant: We Carleen Denton: Fruits Annie Bryant: we don't Carleen Denton: and veg. Esther Snyder: I Annie Bryant: know. Esther Snyder: guess they would be either in the colour of that plastic Carleen Denton: Yeah. Esther Snyder: face on Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Esther Snyder: the front, or in the colour of the squishy thing underneath. Annie Bryant: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: And the rest is the company the company colour's silver? Melina Mezzatesta: It was, yeah, silver and yellow. It l it looks like I don't Carleen Denton: We could Annie Bryant: Okay. Carleen Denton: promote the banana one. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: Like mm. Melina Mezzatesta: I mean that's another question, where are we gonna we we should have the logo somewhere on it. Carleen Denton: Mm. Annie Bryant: Mm-hmm. Should also fit the batteries, which we haven't Carleen Denton: Oh Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Carleen Denton: yeah. Esther Snyder: I think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah, Esther Snyder: case. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: th and that would Annie Bryant: Okay. Esther Snyder: Especially if Melina Mezzatesta: that Esther Snyder: you're switching out the squishy part. Then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off. Annie Bryant: Mm-hmm. Melina Mezzatesta: Mm-hmm. Carleen Denton: Yeah, I think, um it'd be interesting to have the b the squishy bit. The part that you, yeah, can change into the different, you know, trendy vegetables and fruits. But uh Esther Snyder: Well I dunno. Carleen Denton: it Esther Snyder: You'd spend so much time like squishing it to your own personal hand. Then you'd get a new one and you'd have to do it all over again. Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: No but it does it automatically. Does it automatically? Carleen Denton: Yeah. Annie Bryant: I don't know. Melina Mezzatesta: I don't know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for Annie Bryant. Annie Bryant: Okay. Melina Mezzatesta: But if someone components concept. Question mark. Energy. Question Esther Snyder: That was Annie Bryant. Melina Mezzatesta: mark. Was that you? Esther Snyder: Yes. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Oh right right. Yeah. Um, so what d but what do we know about energy? I mean we're gonna use batteries right? And Esther Snyder: which is something I don't know what it is. Something Annie Bryant: Oh, Esther Snyder: to Annie Bryant: a dynamo Esther Snyder: do with torches. Annie Bryant: is ah, it's a bicycle. It's a bicycle mechanism. It's the en it's like if if something moves, Esther Snyder: Oh Annie Bryant: when Esther Snyder: okay. Annie Bryant: it moves, Esther Snyder: Yeah, Annie Bryant: it Esther Snyder: the other Annie Bryant: stores Esther Snyder: one was Annie Bryant: energy. Esther Snyder: the other one was a kinetic thing where you'd basically have to wind it yourself. So Annie Bryant: It's quite sweet. Esther Snyder: I sort of picked battery. We could have talked about doing a wind-up or a dynamo or a solar power. Um but I think solar power's not available with the rubber case anyways. Melina Mezzatesta: I think batteries Esther Snyder: It Melina Mezzatesta: sound good. What does Esther Snyder: it Annie Bryant: No. Melina Mezzatesta: everyone Esther Snyder: seems Melina Mezzatesta: else Esther Snyder: a little Melina Mezzatesta: think? Esther Snyder: weird for Carleen Denton: The dynamo Esther Snyder: a living room Carleen Denton: would Esther Snyder: anyways. Carleen Denton: be interesting. Annie Bryant: But dynamo the the fact with dynamo is, the moment you move it, it c it creates energy on its own. Carleen Denton: Oh. Melina Mezzatesta: What about Kryptonite? Annie Bryant: Which is quite cool. So if you throw it, it's gonna store loads of energy, and you don't need to buy a battery 'cause they're quite f I find them annoying. But we need to find cost. Melina Mezzatesta: Yeah. Annie Bryant: Don't know the cost. Esther Snyder: Didn't have Annie Bryant: Does Esther Snyder: enough Annie Bryant: anyone Esther Snyder: data Annie Bryant: have Esther Snyder: to actually Annie Bryant: costs on the on the Esther Snyder: All Annie Bryant: web? Esther Snyder: it said was it gave sort of relative, some chips are more expensive than others, sort of things. It didn't give Annie Bryant any actual Annie Bryant: Okay. Esther Snyder: cost. Annie Bryant: Right. Carleen Denton: Hmm. Annie Bryant: Mm. Esther Snyder: Most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk. So I don't think it's that much of a problem. Like the chip is probably the most expensive part. Melina Mezzatesta: What does chip on print mean? Esther Snyder: Um, for things like remote controls, um, they stamp out a chip, Melina Mezzatesta: Uh-huh. Esther Snyder: calculators too I think. Um, so you can mass produce 'em pretty cheap. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. Esther Snyder: But it's not like a computer, you can't like reprogramme your remo remote controls, it's like Melina Mezzatesta: Right. Esther Snyder: stamped onto the chip. Melina Mezzatesta: So, chip on print is just means like that they're mass-produced. Esther Snyder: Yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Okay. And case? Uh I guess Esther Snyder: Case Melina Mezzatesta: that's Esther Snyder: is Melina Mezzatesta: what Esther Snyder: what Melina Mezzatesta: we've Esther Snyder: we Melina Mezzatesta: been Esther Snyder: were Melina Mezzatesta: talking Esther Snyder: discussing Melina Mezzatesta: about, yeah. Esther Snyder: yeah. Melina Mezzatesta: Casing. Yeah. thinking of like syntactic case and thi um let's see. Is there anything else we need to Carleen Denton: Hmm. Melina Mezzatesta: talk about? Oh when we move on, you two are going to be playing with play-dough. Um, and working on the look and feel of the design and user interface design. And you're gonna be doing protu product evaluation. So you'll get mm m more instructions from your personal coach. Annie Bryant: Oh, thank Melina Mezzatesta: Mm. Carleen Denton: Cool. Annie Bryant: you. Melina Mezzatesta: See you soon. Does it matter that I end early? Annie Bryant: I it's strange because Melina Mezzatesta: How how early is it? I didn't get a pop-up thing that said	Melina Mezzatesta reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Esther Snyder gave her presentation on components and discussed which would have to be custom-made and which were standard. She also discussed the various materials and chips available. Annie Bryant presented current trends in the market and in fashion. She discussed the current fruits and vegetables trend and the trend toward softer, spongier materials. Carleen Denton discussed the look of the remote with the group. They discussed including a touch-based graphical user interface but noted that it was unnecessary and costly. They discussed using the menu function on the television instead. The group discussed how the menu function would be programmed. The group then talked about the casing of the device, and decided that there would be a changeable outer casing. They discussed including fruit colors in addition to the company colors. Some part of the casing will be made of a spongy material. The group also discussed energy source options and chips. Melina Mezzatesta instructed Carleen Denton and Esther Snyder to construct the prototype and Annie Bryant to work on the prototype evaluation.	4	amisum	train
Deanna Kreidel: Okay, welcome to the second meeting of this group. Um I'll briefly go through the uh notes of the of the last meeting uh just done in in note form and I haven't attributed anything to individuals, because we're working strictly as a team here and uh n nobody's working Janine Lumley: Sorry. Deanna Kreidel: equally, so uh. Um we we s we saw that the the problems with existing remote controls were the uh b a boring shape and boring colour. Um and and we we saw that the what we needed to to to make sure the device um controls several items, that switching was easy, that you shouldn't need to point the thing at uh anything in particular, um that it need to be contoured to make it interesting, that the keys might be concave, simply because that hasn't been done before that we know of. Um should have interchangeable fascias so people can personalise it, um illuminated so that people can see it in dark rooms. Um and that people might want it as as in addition to their existing remote controls. Um and that it sh it should just always work, whenever you uh um mm uh use it. And that it shouldn't be too small, mm that it it gets lost. Um. Deanna Kreidel: Now uh uh I'll shortly ask for for three three presentations. Uh before I do that, however, I will go through some new project requirements that um the the management have placed on us and uh will be challenging in terms of what we discussed at the first meeting. Um the uh the ma the management has had it's own thoughts on this and uh the they don't necessarily agree with with what we uh we thought. Um and and then we'll as a result of that we will then talk through the the functions that we see the the device um actually b carrying out, and we have uh forty minutes to do this in and I uh Deanna Kreidel: Anyway. Okay. Now, the n the new requirements are um the the management team see that um teletext is no longer of any importance given the uh the rise of the internet. Um and and they want it only to cover televisions. Um now, what is not q quite clear from their directive is whether they mean th they don't want it to cover teletext or whether they don't want it to cover, you know, videos, D_V_D_s, um satellite boxes, which uh I mean we saw as being fundamental to the uh to the exercise. The um the actual wording of the directive is that it should cover television only. Um and on that basis um I I think we we need to bear that in mind, um but possibly uh keep at the backs of our minds that the reality that people even when they uh no longer they don't look at teletext anymore, they certainly do look at other things. Um the device has to incorporate the company logo and colours. Um the the logo uh being at b the bottom of the screen there, the the the two R_s in grey against uh a yellow background. Um now this doesn't necessarily mean that we have to give up some of our ideas about making it attractive to the t to the market. But uh do do introduce some some constraints as to how we might do that. Um it also has to be simple, which to some extent goes along w with the first one, and that we've already said that it must be simple 'cause that's what people want anyway. Um but they also want it to be simple to get it to the market quickly, which um mm uh is is is their choice, but uh um we we need to talk that through. Um okay, so uh after the meeting it'll be summarised and uh um notes sent out and uh etcetera. Okay, so we'll first of all mm have individual reports from everybody. Um again I there is no order of precedence here um so I I I'll leave it up to you to who who who thinks they would like to go go first? Bonnie Stockton: Uh I don't mind. Deanna Kreidel: P fine. Bonnie Stockton: Uh can I the cable? Deanna Kreidel: Oh sorry, you can indeed. Bonnie Stockton: Cheers. Bonnie Stockton: I got a how do I start there? Deanna Kreidel: Oh, if you click on the um uh the one that that looks like a projection screen, no the one to the right of that. Bonnie Stockton: That one. Deanna Kreidel: That one. Bonnie Stockton: Cool. Well these are functionality requirements from the our our guys down in the the research lab. Took hundred people and covered all the aspects of what um is needed by people and what they want to see. Um everything kinda and how individual functions are how how how often they're used how much their and stuff. And general opinions about current current remotes. See that, as we kinda noticed, seventy five percent of people find their remote controls ugly. So some kind of a new style should be incorporated that's less ugly. Uh along with um looking less ugly, if it looks better, eighty percent of people said they'd spend more money on it. Which is a a plus for us, if we can make it look better, it'd be uh more cost effective and we can put the price up. Current remote controls do not match the operating behaviour of the user. I can empl I kinda take that to mean as um they they don't uh they, yeah, they only use they only work for the television or yeah like as in in my flat I've got six remote controls for a stereo system, a digital box, a D_V_D_ player, a video player and T_V_. If it was uh I mean th my behaviour is to use multiple things at the same time and multiple remotes aren't really matched well to my behaviour. Uh again, seventy five percent is seventy five percent of users say they zap a lot. I took to mean that they just they use it a lot, they use it regularly rather than standing up and manually change channels or volume. And uh yeah, uh I think the big issue is fifty percent users only use ten percent of the buttons, 'cause uh wh if we got a remote that like well we'll have some buttons taken off by the lack of teletext, but uh oh and we're going to see uh on the uh that some of the functions like audio settings aren't h hardly ever used and used very aren't considered relevant by the user. So I think maybe fewer buttons, which also make the design look sleeker, I dunno. Uh um yeah and uh frustrations of like people losing remote control. I dunno Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: maybe some kind of system of you press a button on the T_V_ or maybe that's b it would have to incorporate, but like some kind of system where you can f use something else to find the remote control. Maybe like it'll beep or something. And um, yep, the uh time taken to learn new remote controls is Uh don't want to make it too complicated, easy to use for uh new like first time users and stuff. And uh repetitive strain injury, I suppose we should make it more comfortable and make ma possibly even use have to make it, yeah, fewer buttons, like I was saying about the whole mice the mouse idea of it feels more comfortable. Maybe don't even Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: have to hold it as such. Deanna Kreidel: Gosh, must be some telly addicts out there if they get R_S_I_ from their television remote, is all I can say. Bonnie Stockton: But uh yeah. It also asked um if we would if people would pay more for speech recognition and younger people say they would. And uh there was another section on our on the report for uh L_C_D_ displays, but the data wasn't there, so. I Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Right. Bonnie Stockton: don't actually know what the results for that were, Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: so. May be incrementally emitting, but yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, I must say that um the uh I c can't remember what um f you know phone service I was using the other day, but that had sorta speech recognition which worked uh remarkably well, so that is indeed a uh um Bonnie Stockton: And Deanna Kreidel: a thought Bonnie Stockton: uh Deanna Kreidel: and it it cuts out uh Bonnie Stockton: it would cut out the R_S_I_ Deanna Kreidel: I was was Bonnie Stockton: as Deanna Kreidel: gonna Bonnie Stockton: well Deanna Kreidel: say, you Bonnie Stockton: if Deanna Kreidel: can't Bonnie Stockton: you Deanna Kreidel: get a lot of R_S_I_, j just get jaw ache. Okay, sorry. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah, um oh yeah, so possibly the speech recognition is possibly something could add into the design. Oh, I've got some other things I couldn't fit onto this presentation. Um. You see this okay? Almost no? It's sorry it's a bit. I'll read out to you. Uh functionality, uh like people's opinions on functionality, the relevance to the remote and how often they're used. So um like the power. Using the using the d swi the power switch to switch on T_V_ is a high relevance of nine, but it's not frequently used. You see what I mean? Whereas Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: channel selection, which is very high relevance Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Bonnie Stockton: is used the most. So m we can maybe even start to cut down on or I was possibly even thinking of a design that maybe some of the buttons are hidden from everyday use. Maybe like uh a folding ledge or something. So that we can maybe Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: go into the channel settings and the audio settings, which are low relevance and rarely used. And keep the v volume selection and channel selection very easily Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Janine Lumley: It could Deanna Kreidel: I mean Janine Lumley: be oh uh was gonna say uh like the phones that they use? Have you seen Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Janine Lumley: the new mo mobile phones that Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Janine Lumley: flip out and they have the Bonnie Stockton: Oh yeah. Janine Lumley: like texting, and then the numbers on one side, so you could have Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Janine Lumley: the most used buttons on top and Deanna Kreidel: Hmm, Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: hmm. Janine Lumley: flip Bonnie Stockton: Yeah, Janine Lumley: it out Bonnie Stockton: like the one Janine Lumley: or Bonnie Stockton: that Janine Lumley: something. Bonnie Stockton: like slides back Deanna Kreidel: Uh. Bonnie Stockton: and the buttons are concealed Janine Lumley: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Should Bonnie Stockton: underneath. Deanna Kreidel: we Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: actually bite the bullet here? If people really don't use those buttons to any extent at all um Bonnie Stockton: Just remove them completely? Deanna Kreidel: remove them altogether. Janine Lumley: That might be the Deanna Kreidel: I wonder whether we could get the remote control with no buttons at all if we went for voice recognition, given that um the Um now the the age structure we were looking at um I mean w we had usage by age structure, what we didn't have was what proportion of people using remotes were in those particular age groups. Now Bonnie Stockton: Uh yeah. Deanna Kreidel: do we know whether they Forty no sorry for forty five to fifty five age group, uh to put myself right in the middle of it, um u use remote controls to a great extent. Yes we Bonnie Stockton: Um no this is for Deanna Kreidel: That would 've Bonnie Stockton: pay Deanna Kreidel: speech Bonnie Stockton: more for Deanna Kreidel: recogn Bonnie Stockton: speech recognition. Deanna Kreidel: right. So, we're looking at um well again, we don't know the relative proportion the relative numbers in the age groups. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah, that's true. Deanna Kreidel: If we wanted something different, truly different, then the buttonless Georgia Mazzola: P Deanna Kreidel: remote control Georgia Mazzola: Well the only Deanna Kreidel: w would Georgia Mazzola: problem Deanna Kreidel: be it. Georgia Mazzola: I can think of with that is if you've got a lot of people that don't wanna be bothered learning how to use new rem remote controls. If you just kind of take away everything that they're used to knowing, that's gonna be quite a change. Deanna Kreidel: But if you just Georgia Mazzola: It Deanna Kreidel: lift Georgia Mazzola: might Deanna Kreidel: it up and say, channel one or Bonnie Stockton: Or even Deanna Kreidel: B_B_C_ Bonnie Stockton: I mean you could even just have it left on. You Janine Lumley: Maybe Bonnie Stockton: could just Janine Lumley: i Bonnie Stockton: put it down once on top your T_V_ and never have to Janine Lumley: Yeah, have a big kind of like the satellite box or the cable box and then it doesn't matter where in the room you are, you won't Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Janine Lumley: lose Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Janine Lumley: it. Deanna Kreidel: It c well it I can I can see technical problems Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: with that in terms Janine Lumley: No. Deanna Kreidel: of the, you know, the sound from the television, because if somebody actually on the television says Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: uh Bonnie Stockton: B_B_C_ Janine Lumley: Oh. Bonnie Stockton: one. Deanna Kreidel: uh, you know, I_T_V_ and you're watching B_B_C_ then Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: then it might um change itself, so it probably needs to be um Janine Lumley: Yeah, that's true. Deanna Kreidel: possibly actually need a button on it just Bonnie Stockton: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: to activate it. Or or something just to identify that you've lifted it up and it's use. And and then Janine Lumley: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: just say, oh I don't know, a thought and and then uh I mean that that would certainly be uh truly different. Um 'cause uh you know audio settings, nought point eight percent. I mean if they weren't there, Bonnie Stockton: Mm-mm. Deanna Kreidel: would people miss them? Georgia Mazzola: But look at the importance of them. The volume settings. Bonnie Stockton: Relevance of two out of ten, yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Vol volume, Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: yes um Georgia Mazzola: They're not used often Deanna Kreidel: th Georgia Mazzola: but they quite important when they're Deanna Kreidel: w Georgia Mazzola: used. Deanna Kreidel: we need to s identify Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: things that people actually need and and it's a function of frequency and relevance. And um I would say ignoring ig ignoring power for the moment, um the channel and volume Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: and th w w given given that we've been told to ignore teletext. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Uh channel and volume are the only ones that Bonnie Stockton: Stand Deanna Kreidel: uh Bonnie Stockton: out. Deanna Kreidel: would appear to be essential. Um. So we if we can design something that that looks interesting, know, or looks different, um incorporates the the logo and and the colours and um we can still have our interchangeable fascias even if it's the yellow and grey, um and uh I dunno, buttons or or buttons as an option. Bonnie Stockton: Uh I just had a thought actually, sorry to interrupt. Deanna Kreidel: Do, Bonnie Stockton: Uh Deanna Kreidel: please. Bonnie Stockton: you were saying about um it could technical problems of like uh someone on the television saying a channel Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Bonnie Stockton: number and it changed we could maybe have like an activation word. 'Cause I've seen Deanna Kreidel: You Bonnie Stockton: I've Deanna Kreidel: cer Bonnie Stockton: seen this used Deanna Kreidel: certainly Bonnie Stockton: on computers Deanna Kreidel: could. Bonnie Stockton: before, where you just you address the Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: remote, you address the computer, and then Deanna Kreidel: Depe Bonnie Stockton: give it Deanna Kreidel: uh Bonnie Stockton: a command. Deanna Kreidel: i depends whether um if we want to make this so simple that anybody can walk into the room and lift it up and say Bonnie Stockton: Oh I see. Oh yeah, I see. Deanna Kreidel: B_B_C_ one. Um okay, I mean you could print actually print it on the uh Bonnie Stockton: Mm-hmm, Deanna Kreidel: device Bonnie Stockton: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: itself. Um. Bonnie Stockton: I mean I'm just thinking of the point of view of peop you could still like lose this remote. Deanna Kreidel: S th this I th that's always gonna be a problem Bonnie Stockton: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: I think. Um and I I I s so I suppose one um could make it so desirable that if people lose it they immediately go out and buy another one. Anyway, sorry, carry on. Do you want to just carry on with Bonnie Stockton: Oh no I I interrupted Deanna Kreidel: or no Bonnie Stockton: you, sorry. Deanna Kreidel: no, no uh b I was in the middle of Bonnie Stockton: Oh okay. Deanna Kreidel: in the middle of your report there. Bonnie Stockton: Um well, I was just kinda wrapping up there. Yeah, I was thinking Deanna Kreidel: Mm okay. Bonnie Stockton: um, yeah, maybe such things are relevant. We could make things much more f I think the the eighty percent of people would spend more on uh a remote uh that looks better, combined with uh decrease the or take out the limited functio functions that we don't really use much. alright take out teletext, but as for channel settings and stuff it might it might um turn people somewhe peop some people that want the whole functionality away. But, since if we're marketing a more kind of fashionable approach Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Bonnie Stockton: then it'd it would be fashion and fashion over practicality. Deanna Kreidel: S s we could we could make it dual function voice recognition and still Bonnie Stockton: Oh, we Deanna Kreidel: have Bonnie Stockton: could, yeah. Deanna Kreidel: buttons on it Bonnie Stockton: We c Deanna Kreidel: um Bonnie Stockton: yeah, we could even Deanna Kreidel: 'cause we're Bonnie Stockton: have it as like a yeah the buttons control this and the voice functions control the f things that you would do all the time, so. Deanna Kreidel: Certainly could. Bonnie Stockton: So uh Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, Bonnie Stockton: yeah, if we could Deanna Kreidel: yeah. Bonnie Stockton: uh power on and channel selection and and volume selection, wouldn't have to really Deanna Kreidel: The I mean the the advantage of doing away the buttons altogether is it makes the thing cheaper. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah and probably it would look better as well. Deanna Kreidel: No, it cou certainly opens up the possibility for making it uh, you know, visually very distinctive. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Um Bonnie Stockton: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: 'cause you know, it does not have to be a oblong box. Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Bonnie Stockton: Lined with numbered buttons Deanna Kreidel: Mm, yeah. Bonnie Stockton: and Deanna Kreidel: Okay, who sorry, have you have you finished Bonnie Stockton: Uh yeah, Deanna Kreidel: there Andy? Bonnie Stockton: yeah, Deanna Kreidel: Yep, Bonnie Stockton: that's Deanna Kreidel: yep. Bonnie Stockton: everything. Deanna Kreidel: Um given that we've already had a extensive discussion uh. Janine Lumley: Okay well, I can Georgia Mazzola: Hmm. Janine Lumley: do mine. Bonnie Stockton: Do you want the cable? Janine Lumley: Yeah, let's see if I can make this work. Um. Georgia Mazzola: Oh, you have to hit like function and F_ something. Janine Lumley: Oh. Bonnie Stockton: F_ eight. Georgia Mazzola: F_ eight. Janine Lumley: Is it doing Georgia Mazzola: Dunno. Bonnie Stockton: Uh, give it about twenty seconds, or so. Janine Lumley: Okay. Deanna Kreidel: Ah, Georgia Mazzola: Oh yeah, Janine Lumley: Oh Deanna Kreidel: there Janine Lumley: okay. Deanna Kreidel: we Georgia Mazzola: it's going. Deanna Kreidel: go. Janine Lumley: Okay, so this is just about the technical functions. Deanna Kreidel: Alright. Janine Lumley: So the method, I looked online for examples of other similar products and then just kind of was trying to brainstorm some possible design ideas and um identify what the necessary things are, what people are what you really wanna have a remote control do. Um and then there are two different kinds that I found. There's a user centred one and an engineering centred one which I will have pictures of and Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Janine Lumley: then we kinda have to decide which one this should be. So these are the two different ones. This one um this is the user centred, it has uh quite a few mm uh um fewer buttons and then this is the engineering centred, which has a lot more buttons, Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Janine Lumley: and probably this is one that people complain about, about having too many buttons that you don't use. So basically, what a remote control is is you it's to send messages to the television set, you know, turn on, off, switch the channels and the volume and things such as that. And so for this product it's gonna be television only, and then it has to have the uh logos for the company and the colours. And so, for my personal preferences, I think this one is easier to use and has quite a you know, fewer buttons. Um we want something that sends messages easily to the television and I was kind of wondering about this example that they have. It looks kind of narrow at the top, and I was thinking maybe if it were wider Deanna Kreidel: Mm, Janine Lumley: at the top, Deanna Kreidel: yeah. Janine Lumley: then that would be easier. Um and so we have to decide what's gonna make our product different. E the unique style, maybe have it light up so it's visible in the dark, um the changeable face-plates, and the lighting up and visible I was when we were talking about havi losing it, maybe to have a button on the television that you press and it maybe if it makes a noise or lights up or something like that, so it's easier to find if someone has hidden under the couch or something like that. So that's my presentation. Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Okay, can I um I'm actually gonna use the um it's gonna cause great technical problems over here. I'm actually gonna use the Janine Lumley: F they probably clip Georgia Mazzola: Oh yeah, they might be Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Georgia Mazzola: movable. Janine Lumley: to Georgia Mazzola: Oh Janine Lumley: you. Georgia Mazzola: yeah, they're all they're not connected to anything on the table, you just leave 'em on and walk around with 'em. Deanna Kreidel: Yes, rather than the uh the the traditional in fact, um I won't even go that far. Um something like this shape, you know, sort of something that you can that's sort of a more vertical shape, um that you you sort of hold in your hand, um, well I'm trying to think uh uh uh l uh l such as I mean um something you hold up like that, possibly with a couple of buttons like that, but with the Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: the entire top with the, you know, the uh the infrared or whatever source. Uh so that you know, it's flying Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: off in all directions, so that uh um uh again the n need to look at the the the technicalities of um actually achieving that in terms of whether the, you know, the power requirements of the uh such a source, um you know, compromise the our our need for uh you know, it it being um mm permanently uh you know, available. Uh whether whether different technology um I mean th all all these remotes are presumably infrared, and like they have been for a long time. Uh we we possibly need to be looking at at at something different, um you know, short range, not like the old uh radio remote controls where you'd change next door's telly when you change yours. Um but uh uh I think basically i if we're going for i if minimum number of buttons is our priority, then we should, as I say, r know, really bite the bullets and and reduce the buttons to absolute minimum, you know, possibly with backup channel and volume buttons and on off. Um and nothing else. Um so that it can al it could uh almost end up like that, but again, except that um you know the risk of losing it. Um anyway okay um so Kate, Georgia Mazzola: Yes, Deanna Kreidel: wh what Georgia Mazzola: mm. Deanna Kreidel: are your uh your Janine Lumley: Oh. Deanna Kreidel: thoughts on this? Georgia Mazzola: Which one does this plug into? Janine Lumley: Hmm I think it's all there. Georgia Mazzola: That one. Janine Lumley: H Georgia Mazzola: I can't did you could you see it on you screen when it Janine Lumley: Oh yeah. That's kind of strange. Georgia Mazzola: That's not cool. Oh well. Anyways. Um alright, yeah, so um I'll just do my presentation on the working design uh. Oh there we go. Okay um just at the m yeah the whole sort of method of how the remote control works. Uh the basic function of the remote control is to send messages to another sh system, the the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ player or whatever. Um and it does this uh by well, you need to start off you need an energy source and this energy source will feed into an integrated circuit chip and the circuit chip is the part that actually composes the different messages uh within the remote um which will then be sent to the uh the television, the D_V_D_ to tell that what to do. Um and you need a user interface, which controls the chip and thus the messages and uh the user interface is that's basically just you kn the s sorta design of the actual remote which you hold in your hands and what buttons will be on it. Um Oh shoot. Okay. Uh just general findings. Uh what we need uh technically speaking for the remote control is some sort of energy source, uh some sort of user interface, which I think we've mostly been talking about the user interface and the design of that. Um a circuit chip within that to uh control and send the messages and um a sender and receiver. And um oops. Uh-huh. This is just sort of a little schematic diagram of what we're looking for. Uh this Bonnie Stockton: Hmm. Georgia Mazzola: just kinda represents the energy source which feeds into the circuit chip uh which maybe then we could have that feed into a switch which would send signals f to um a subcomponent and on to a light bulb between so it'll light up once we start once you start pressing buttons. Um also send signals to the um infrared bulb, which will be the part that actually what? Sends signals to the the television. And then you've got your happy little T_V_ watcher there. And so my personal preferences I I just think we need sorta big uh energy source that won't die out, uh perhaps some sort of rechargeable battery or a battery dock you could place it in, so it'd constantly be charged, so you wouldn't have to uh be worrying about it running out of batteries and not changing channels for you. Uh a wide range uh sender-receiver, so that you can hit the buttons from basically anywhere in the room, and the channel'll still be changed. Uh also definitely a user-friendly interface um and I think we've all sort of mentioned adding a a locating device on it, so when it does get stuck under the couch cushions, as they inevitably do, you can find them easily. And that's pretty much it. Deanna Kreidel: Okay. Uh it seems seems to Bonnie Stockton there are a number of fundamental decisions to make Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: before we um I think your point about the the big energy source is uh Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: a very valid one. Um I don't suppose we've got any statistics on the the life expectancy of uh remote controls, particularly sort of independent ones. Um given you know, the number of things you buy these days, which you know, have a a a lithium whatever battery in, that's uh, you know never needs replacing. Um perhaps we should have the the disposable remote control, uh um you know, one some sort of typical usage. You know, the the the battery will last know, five, ten years. By which time I mean when all's said and done, the digital television will be taking over Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: in that time scale. Bonnie Stockton: Mm-hmm. Deanna Kreidel: Um uh uh p perhaps we should, know, reduce the uh, you know, the sort of moving parts even more by not even having a battery compartment and uh Georgia Mazzola: Just having one that's guaranteed to last five to ten years? Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, and Georgia Mazzola: Oh, Deanna Kreidel: if if anybody Georgia Mazzola: cool. Deanna Kreidel: manages to run it down, we'll we'll give 'em a new one. Georgia Mazzola: Yeah, fair enough. Deanna Kreidel: Um it's, you know, it's what it saves in cost and you know there there's a well, it's actually a marketing gimmick. I mean it's hardly a gimmick, it's uh it's totally practical. Uh so I th think you know the idea of a rechargeable one is um uh unless you're really high tech and it sort of just recharges itself if it's n by, you know, magnetic waves or whatever, if Bonnie Stockton: It could Deanna Kreidel: if Bonnie Stockton: have Deanna Kreidel: it Bonnie Stockton: like uh know like a cordless phone in your house it s got like a base that Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: sits Georgia Mazzola: Mm, Bonnie Stockton: there all Georgia Mazzola: mm. Bonnie Stockton: the time. Deanna Kreidel: Are are people really gonna use it though? Bonnie Stockton: I Janine Lumley: Yeah, people Deanna Kreidel: Um. Bonnie Stockton: suppose, Janine Lumley: are pro Georgia Mazzola: Mm Bonnie Stockton: yeah. Janine Lumley: I Georgia Mazzola: yeah. Janine Lumley: would think that people might forget I mean Deanna Kreidel: I Janine Lumley: people Deanna Kreidel: I th Janine Lumley: forget Deanna Kreidel: I think Janine Lumley: to put their cordless phones back on there, Georgia Mazzola: Mm-mm. Janine Lumley: so. Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, it's Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: um I mean I know that somei times my my wife goes out in the morning and says oh I should have put the phone on Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: to charge and then then she's had those for so long that if she hasn't worked that out by now. Um. Georgia Mazzola: 'Cause I only remember to charge my cell phone uh when battery dies. And that's pretty Janine Lumley: Yeah. Georgia Mazzola: much Deanna Kreidel: When it yeah, wh Georgia Mazzola: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: when it's died is a problem. Georgia Mazzola: Yeah, when it turns itself Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, Georgia Mazzola: off, that's Deanna Kreidel: yeah, Georgia Mazzola: when I plug it in, Deanna Kreidel: yeah, Georgia Mazzola: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: so uh um what so wh what what do we think about the um the the permanent mm battery? Georgia Mazzola: Yeah, think that's Bonnie Stockton: Uh. That Georgia Mazzola: a good Janine Lumley: No. Georgia Mazzola: idea. Bonnie Stockton: sounds pretty good, yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Is the uh you know, we we Janine Lumley: Um. Deanna Kreidel: we are really going for the ultimate in ex uh external simplicity Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: here. Um you know, cut cost within the manufacturing and uh you know, if we have a high tech interior, then then that that sh may well be cost effective. Janine Lumley: Do they make batteries that last that long? Deanna Kreidel: I mean th th certainly. Um I can't think of anything off the s top of my head, but there are certainly things that you buy. I mean calculators for example. Georgia Mazzola: They usually have the little light uh source, I dunno Janine Lumley: Yeah, they Georgia Mazzola: what Janine Lumley: have Georgia Mazzola: the Janine Lumley: that Georgia Mazzola: heck Janine Lumley: little Georgia Mazzola: they're called, Janine Lumley: solar Georgia Mazzola: the but yeah, the little cells that Deanna Kreidel: Som well some do, I mean th th but Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: there are battery ones that um Bonnie Stockton: Mm-hmm. Deanna Kreidel: are Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: you know, sort of permanently sealed. Janine Lumley: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: In in fact I'd Georgia Mazzola: Most of them, don't they have sort of a combination of the two, like when there is light, they'll work off the light, and if Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, Georgia Mazzola: there isn't, they'll Deanna Kreidel: uh uh Georgia Mazzola: kick into this battery, so we can maybe do something like that whereas there is a battery, but if there's enough light, then it's using the light, so that it's not actually draining the battery all the time, Janine Lumley: Mm. Georgia Mazzola: but you will have the battery there for Deanna Kreidel: Yeah, Georgia Mazzola: when Deanna Kreidel: I Georgia Mazzola: you need Deanna Kreidel: I mean Georgia Mazzola: it. Deanna Kreidel: th th this needs going t into the technology Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: a bit. I mean the the actual time that a remote control is actually operating Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: I would think is i is is probably, you know, no more than minutes in its entire life. Georgia Mazzola: Oh, Deanna Kreidel: Um. Janine Lumley: Yeah, some people are Deanna Kreidel: If, but I say Georgia Mazzola: clicking, Deanna Kreidel: if if people are getting Georgia Mazzola: yeah. Deanna Kreidel: R_S_I_ from it then Georgia Mazzola: Yeah, Deanna Kreidel: uh then Janine Lumley: Yeah. Georgia Mazzola: then they're Deanna Kreidel: uh Georgia Mazzola: clicking Deanna Kreidel: then Georgia Mazzola: a lot, Deanna Kreidel: then Georgia Mazzola: yeah. Janine Lumley: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: perhaps we're looking Bonnie Stockton: W Deanna Kreidel: at the wrong market Bonnie Stockton: like Deanna Kreidel: n Bonnie Stockton: like this um this uh market research thing says number of times per hour that it's used, channel selection a hundred and sixty eight times per Deanna Kreidel: Right. Bonnie Stockton: hour. Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Janine Lumley: Per hour? Wow. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Janine Lumley: That's a lot. Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: Oh, I must admit I hadn't um I'd I'd missed that. That does sound excessive. Bonnie Stockton: But then again, if you think it of the amount of, you know amount of use it's like Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: That's it's less Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: than a second, Janine Lumley: Yeah. Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: um. Deanna Kreidel: Well that's right, and and I I don't I don't even know whether the I don't even know whether the s the signal lasts as long as Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: you actually keep the button pressed, or whether it's just a Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: sorta tenth of a second, no matter how long you press it for, I don't know I don't actually know. Janine Lumley: Though Deanna Kreidel: Um. Janine Lumley: I think with digital T_V_, like I know on my cable box, you're not supposed to do that because the channel can't keep up with it if Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Janine Lumley: you just Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Janine Lumley: press it like that, so you're supposed to use the menu and go through the Deanna Kreidel: Mm-hmm. Bonnie Stockton: Mm-hmm. Janine Lumley: different channels that way instead of Deanna Kreidel: Mm. Right, so I've got a message to say five minutes, I dunno how long ago that appeared. Um Janine Lumley: Uh-oh. Deanna Kreidel: 'cause we're we're getting um right, so I'd I need to sum up very quickly here um. We're looking at extreme simplicity. We're looking at a radically different shape. Possibly no buttons at all um, but if you can incorporate um channel change and volume buttons um in into the design, then then that's fine. Um in the I mean the the role of the of the um the user interface des designer becomes b you know more important here, because, you know, shape is no longer an a uh um a serious constraint. But we clearly only need th the main buttons, although, uh if clearly only need the main functions. Um I don't see why we shouldn't go for voice recognition um and the the only buttons that I think we need are channel control, volume control and on off. Um it needs to incorporate the corporate logo, uh the the grey and yellow colour scheme and there's no reason why we can't introduce um interchangeable uh covers. Um uh d so does that accurately summarise what we've discussed? Bonnie Stockton: Yeah. Janine Lumley: Yeah. Georgia Mazzola: Yep. Hmm. Deanna Kreidel: Right. Janine Lumley: Um Deanna Kreidel: So uh Janine Lumley: Oh I just have one question. Deanna Kreidel: Yeah. Janine Lumley: So are we doing just the television or are we doing Deanna Kreidel: We are doing just the television. Janine Lumley: so not D_V_D_ Deanna Kreidel: No. Janine Lumley: players, we okay, okay. Deanna Kreidel: I think that's quite clear from the the information Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: that we've been given, no? Janine Lumley: Okay. Bonnie Stockton: Yeah, like in the email of television only. In fact they're in the constraints email that I got. Deanna Kreidel: Right. Bonnie Stockton: Didn't you mention the teletext, just television Deanna Kreidel: Oh yeah Bonnie Stockton: only? Deanna Kreidel: well Georgia Mazzola: Mm. Deanna Kreidel: th that's Janine Lumley: Yeah. Deanna Kreidel: one I s that's one I sent you, which which was my interpretation Bonnie Stockton: Oh okay. Deanna Kreidel: of uh Georgia Mazzola: Yeah. Bonnie Stockton: Oh yeah. Deanna Kreidel: of the Janine Lumley: Oh Deanna Kreidel: uh Janine Lumley: okay. Deanna Kreidel: what came down Georgia Mazzola: Okay. Deanna Kreidel: from from head office. Um That's that that that that's their uh their view. Okay, so uh we can all give some thought to that uh for for the next meeting, thank you Janine Lumley: Okay. Deanna Kreidel: very much indeed. Georgia Mazzola: Cool.	Deanna Kreidel opens the meeting by going through notes from the last meeting, recapping the topics covered. He tells them some new project requirements given by management. Bonnie Stockton presents, talking about user functionality requirements taken from research of 100 people. They discuss the possibility of making a remote that hides less frequently used buttons, one that uses voices recognition to eliminate buttons altogether, or one that combines the two functions. The interface specialist presents, showing examples of two different products- one that is user-centered and another that is engineering-centered and giving personal preference to the simpler one because it is easier to use and has fewer buttons. Next Georgia Mazzola presents, explaining how a remote control works and giving personal preference to a remote which has a large energy source such as a rechargable battery or battery dock. The group discusses using a battery that will last 5-10 years or a solar combined with a battery. They briefly review their discussions and close the meeting.	4	amisum	train
Kathleen Motte: Alright? Alright. Thank you for coming to this meeting of the uh uh design group. Um I think we uh made some definite progress at the last one um and come up with some interesting uh uh w suggestions for our our new remote control. Um I'll again very quickly uh just present some notes of that meeting. Um the the the problem with existing remote controls, we felt, was that they're ugly um and that people are prepared to pay a premium for something better. Um they've got lots buttons on them that uh people don't use and find difficult to learn. Um and people lose them. And We we thought that f for our our new uh uh remote control that everybody will want to rush out and buy, um that we're we should look at speech recognition rather than r rather than buttons, and that if we have any buttons they should be very few of them and only for those functions that are actually identified that that people use. That um we want to go for uh a long lasting battery that we gua we guarantee for the life of the uh uh the product and a shape that will be instantly recognisable, A_ um as uh a trendy remote control, and and B_ as uh a Real Reaction product. So that w uh when people are uh happy with that, they will they will want to buy uh everything else from us. Uh Okay. So again um, I'll we'll have the three three presentations from the the the three of you and then uh we'll we'll make a a final a final uh decision. Um and the the decisions that we need to to make today, finally, are um what energy source we want to use, whether i it is practical to use uh um a a a long lasting one. And uh I I think our discussion was around the fact that uh if we're gonna go for uh a long lasting power supply, then basically it's uh sealed for life and uh if anybody does manage to run one down, we'll we'll give them another one. And uh it it'll be uh, you know, prominently displayed as part of the th the advertising literature that it's um um, you know, for life, guaranteed for life. Um now the the the internal chip um and uh this is where I need uh uh Kate's expert advice and given that th this has to to go to market as quickly as possible um d d do we go for a custom designed chip? Or or do we buy one off the shelf and and programme it ourselves? Uh I mean I'm I'm I'm n not an expert on these things, but presumably, there must be loads of 'em already on the market that we can modify. But uh that that's uh that's your area of expertise. And then the uh, you know, the the overall design of the case uh is is is Kendra's field and uh we we had some discussions last time as as to uh how we might go forward and we'll we'll finalise those uh da today. Um and thi this is all linked in with the the the user interface, whether we p um go for voice, buttons, or or a bit of both. Uh and then uh, you know, f for the next meeting Kate will be looking at the the the s the look, feel and design, Kendra the uh ho how the the user actually uses it and and Andrew of course the the product evaluation. And uh Kate and Kendra will be producing a a model for us to uh to look at. Uh so, if if we can have the the three presentations again please, and uh um p perhaps you'd like to start Maryanne Ambrose: Okay. Kathleen Motte: uh k. Kate. Maryanne Ambrose: Um Kathleen Motte: Oh I'm sorry, Maryanne Ambrose: Um Kathleen Motte: oh sorry. Maryanne Ambrose: there we go. Maryanne Ambrose: 'Kay, I'll just be talking about the components design. And Okay, basically I just uh looked at what exactly do remotes do. Uh basically they wait for you to press a key or give a voice command and then this is translated uh into uh light signals which are then seen by the T_V_. Uh the materials we're gonna need to look at uh the two big ones are the integrated circuit chip and the battery and the in integrated circuit chip uh works in conjunction with a a diode transistor or resonator, uh two more resistors and a capacitor and the battery works in conjunction with a resistor and a capacitor. Um. Uh basically what happens is you'll press a number or give a voice command and this creates a a connection within the the remote that allows the chip the chip then senses this connection and produces a signal in a Morse code format. This signal's sent to the transistor which amplifies it and then sends it on to the light emitting diode and uh which is then trai changed into a infrared light which is sent to the T_V_ and sort of seen by the T_V_ and which uh changes the channels. Um. Oh. Uh cool. Maryanne Ambrose: Uh so as for how we should end up uh using this in our remote uh t couple of main questions are the buttons. Uh y the fewer buttons you have, I guess the fewer internal connections and internal codes you're gonna need. Um however uh to n not have buttons or to use a voice commands instead of buttons might make these connections more difficult and uh raise the production cost. That's something we should think about. Also we have to work within the company constraints, and the company has informed Margaret Justen via email that uh they're experts at pushbuttons and that seems to be the most uh cost-effective way of producing it. Um also with battery connections the company has some limits on the batteries we can use, so I was thinking perhaps a combination of solar cells with a back-up basic battery and somehow between the combination of that two we might be able to come up with something that uh will last the the lifetime or the five to ten years and we could still keep that original idea. Um we also need to look at the chips, uh v custom-designed versus off the shelf, and the custom-designed will give us much more flexibility and enable us to incorporate the voice function that we all uh seem to have agreed upon. Um, however that's gonna cost more, but uh the off the shelf is gonna be uh cheaper and it's gonna be allow us to produce it quicker and get out there faster, but it's going to be less flexible with the features, especially things like uh voice activation, which haven't really been used much on remotes, so there's not really chips out there that would be easy to uh to convert, so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip. And that pretty much sums it up. Kathleen Motte: Okay, so how um sorry, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: can you uh Maryanne Ambrose: Oh Kathleen Motte: just Maryanne Ambrose: yep, Kathleen Motte: put Maryanne Ambrose: sorry. Kathleen Motte: that one back up again, please? Maryanne Ambrose: Yep. Kathleen Motte: Um. Uh d d d okay, I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Do we do we know uh by how Maryanne Ambrose: Um Kathleen Motte: much? Maryanne Ambrose: I don't actually have any price information, no. Kathleen Motte: And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip. Maryanne Ambrose: Um it a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah, we did the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly Kathleen Motte: Right, Maryanne Ambrose: developed, it's sort of still Kathleen Motte: okay. Maryanne Ambrose: still in an ex experimental form, uh so it would uh it's hard to predict the time. Kathleen Motte: Right, I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: that would appear to uh effectively constrain us to an existing chip and thus therefore conventional button technology. Um uh now before we go round everybody else, does anybody um Amy Valdez: I Kathleen Motte: h have any have anyti ha anything to say about that? Amy Valdez: I just have a question about. Um does it make a difference if there are just a few commands, for example if you um can pre-programme in like numbers one through ten and pre-programme say, you know, nine channels and then just use the voice recognition to say channel one and then you've programmed in say B_B_C_ four as your channel one, as your favourite, it's like to have a certain number of favourites um Maryanne Ambrose: W Amy Valdez: and that Maryanne Ambrose: just Amy Valdez: w Maryanne Ambrose: to to incorporate the voice activation in it is is sorta the trick. Once Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: you've got the whole voice chip Amy Valdez: Then Maryanne Ambrose: in there, Amy Valdez: it doesn't Maryanne Ambrose: then Amy Valdez: matter. Maryanne Ambrose: it's pretty much Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: the the world the the sky is your limit, but to actually the the big step is to actually get the voice Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: activation chips in there and working. Kathleen Motte: Cause uh I must say I find it slightly surprising given that, you know, mobile phones incorporate voice activated dialling. So uh Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: um I mean I d d for slightly different well no, I mean, it's if you you speak somebody's name and it'll dial the number for you, so uh bu I mean the this this information is from is this is the internal company Maryanne Ambrose: Uh Kathleen Motte: information, Maryanne Ambrose: bits Kathleen Motte: is it? Maryanne Ambrose: of it, yeah. Kathleen Motte: So Amy Valdez: Of course Kathleen Motte: uh Amy Valdez: mobile phones do tend to be more expensive, Maryanne Ambrose: Yes, as well. Amy Valdez: you know, hundred and fifty pounds or something. As opposed to Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Amy Valdez: the Kathleen Motte: mm true, Amy Valdez: twenty Kathleen Motte: again but Amy Valdez: Euros, Kathleen Motte: if it's without Amy Valdez: twenty Kathleen Motte: any Amy Valdez: five Euros. Kathleen Motte: without any uh p price informations that's uh difficult to uh uh decide. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Margaret Justen: Also lots of mobile phones have got a lot of technology in them, not just Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Margaret Justen: that, Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Margaret Justen: so. Kathleen Motte: that's that's right It's. like it's it's you can't 'cause mobile phones are expensive, you can't say it's the voice recognition Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: bit that is. But we don't know. Um. I mean uh I su i I mean if given that the um the technology is not well developed and and given that it's it's never been done before, um th th the double risk, uh perhaps we ought to uh stick to uh to buttons, since the last thing we want to do is present a product that doesn't work. Um. Thoughts? Amy Valdez: Well, another Margaret Justen: Would Amy Valdez: thought I oh, sorry, go ahead. Margaret Justen: Oh I was just gonna say mayb maybe it sh like um maybe we can like cut corners somewhere else to bring in over cost. Kathleen Motte: I mean do w do we think that the voice technology is fundamental to the project? Maryanne Ambrose: Uh it's fundament well I mean I guess it it's something we've discussed uh since the the sort of the beginning, so I th I think in in our in our minds it's it's fundamental, but I don't know that the uh the upper echelons of the company would necessarily agree with that, so I think Kathleen Motte: I mean I think Maryanne Ambrose: you have Kathleen Motte: we Maryanne Ambrose: to Amy Valdez: Oh yeah. Kathleen Motte: Mm. Maryanne Ambrose: Hm. Amy Valdez: Okay. Well, I kinda think if we're gonna have the voice recognition for part of it, then maybe we should have it for the whole thing. Kathleen Motte: Yeah, I I Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: I I I think that's uh Amy Valdez: And we've been talking about it the whole Maryanne Ambrose: Mm, Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Amy Valdez: time. Anyway, Maryanne Ambrose: mm. Amy Valdez: I'm Kathleen Motte: yeah. Amy Valdez: I'm incli kinda inclined to say that we should just Kathleen Motte: Mm, Amy Valdez: go for Kathleen Motte: right, Amy Valdez: it. Kathleen Motte: okay. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Margaret Justen: Uh yeah, it's the second most important aspect to users that the device should be technologically innovative. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Margaret Justen: From uh my presentation Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Margaret Justen: show, so. Kathleen Motte: it should be Margaret Justen: Uh technologically innovative. Kathleen Motte: Right, okay, so. Maryanne Ambrose: No, that Kathleen Motte: Fine. Maryanne Ambrose: sounds good. Kathleen Motte: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: I it will have voice recognition Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: um Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: Cool. Kathleen Motte: uh if if that means uh if that means we can't afford buttons but I mean b b second question, do we need the five buttons for channel change, up down, volume up down and on off, just as a a backup or Maryanne Ambrose: Um Kathleen Motte: just so that people can Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: uh j j just sit Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: there pressing Maryanne Ambrose: I I Kathleen Motte: buttons? Maryanne Ambrose: would say we do, yeah. Amy Valdez: I think so. Kathleen Motte: Right. Okay. Sorry, d did you want to say anything? Maryanne Ambrose: Uh nope, Kathleen Motte: No? Maryanne Ambrose: that was it, Kathleen Motte: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: that was it. Kathleen Motte: Shall we move rapidly Maryanne Ambrose: Okay. Kathleen Motte: on to uh Amy Valdez: Okay. Kathleen Motte: Kendra? Uh um ra rapidly move the cable over. Amy Valdez: Let's see. Kathleen Motte: Mm. Oh good. Amy Valdez: Oh. Yes. Is it gonna work? Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: Mm Maryanne Ambrose: it's thinking Kathleen Motte: yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: about Kathleen Motte: it'll Maryanne Ambrose: it. Kathleen Motte: get there. Yep. Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: Okay, so I did some research on the internet and um what you know, the interf user interface are just aspects that are seen by users, um commands and mechanisms for the operation, and there're just kind of a variety of choices. Um findings, so a lot of times they tend to look cluttered and Kathleen Motte: Mm-hmm. Amy Valdez: these were just a couple examples of um different kinds that are a little bit more unusual. There're some Kathleen Motte: Mm, Amy Valdez: special Kathleen Motte: yeah. Amy Valdez: ones available, like this one right here, which is Kathleen Motte: Uh-huh. Amy Valdez: marketed towards children, um Kathleen Motte: Alright. Amy Valdez: different designs, and one of the things that n we need to watch out for is a V_ in volume because people some Amy Valdez: Bring a little picture of what I thought ours could look like. So just kind of minimise the Kathleen Motte: Mm-hmm. Amy Valdez: clutter, avoid too many buttons and also um one of the things that people have used is a slide button, like you have on a mouse, that possibly we could use that on the sides Margaret Justen: Mm. Amy Valdez: for volume, for example, have the slide button on the side, and then you can pre-programme the channels, Kathleen Motte: Mm Amy Valdez: the Kathleen Motte: yeah. Amy Valdez: voice recognition and then the Kathleen Motte: Sorry Amy Valdez: voice Kathleen Motte: y Amy Valdez: response Kathleen Motte: y Amy Valdez: sample Kathleen Motte: yeah, Amy Valdez: locator. Kathleen Motte: if I can interrupt you. Well d p 'kay, do you wanna say anything Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: about um slide controls? I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're Maryanne Ambrose: Uh Kathleen Motte: they're si simple, cheap and Maryanne Ambrose: Uh I think they're Kathleen Motte: reliable. Maryanne Ambrose: they're about the same cost really. I I mean, I think it's just sort of the the there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Kathleen Motte: Okay, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm Kathleen Motte: fair enough, Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: fine. Amy Valdez: Just because I n for example if I'm using a mouse I like to be able to slide it up and Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: down so I thought it might Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Amy Valdez: be good for volume to just be able to Kathleen Motte: Good, Amy Valdez: kind of roll it Kathleen Motte: good. Amy Valdez: and then have the up and down and then the Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Amy Valdez: this is my Kathleen Motte: So Amy Valdez: great Kathleen Motte: three Amy Valdez: little Kathleen Motte: three Amy Valdez: drawing. Kathleen Motte: there's three buttons on a slider. Three buttons, Amy Valdez: Y Kathleen Motte: channel Amy Valdez: yes, Margaret Justen: Well, Kathleen Motte: up channel Amy Valdez: yes. Kathleen Motte: up Margaret Justen: if Kathleen Motte: down Margaret Justen: you g if Kathleen Motte: and Margaret Justen: you you got channel down, can have a slider in that as well. Because if it if you no if you notice on the thing it it kind of like has got kind of if you you know it s kind of like sticks, if you know what I mean, up like one unit, if you see what Amy Valdez: Yeah. Margaret Justen: I mean. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Margaret Justen: So it kinda goes up one, then y like you can keep rolling it up, but it's like like like like a cog or something. Kathleen Motte: Uh-huh. Margaret Justen: So you kinda take it up one at a time. Kathleen Motte: Okay. Amy Valdez: The only advantage Margaret Justen: D Kathleen Motte: Um Amy Valdez: I was thinking of to having the buttons, like the buttons on one side for the channel, Kathleen Motte: Mm-hmm. Amy Valdez: and then the slider is that if you're just holding in your hand, and you pick it up, it's easy to n s Margaret Justen: Oh. Amy Valdez: know, okay, this is just the volume and this is Kathleen Motte: This Amy Valdez: the channel. Kathleen Motte: one Margaret Justen: Uh Kathleen Motte: on the one Margaret Justen: you could Kathleen Motte: side and one Margaret Justen: you Kathleen Motte: yeah. Margaret Justen: could Maryanne Ambrose: Ye yeah, 'cause Margaret Justen: as Maryanne Ambrose: I've Margaret Justen: l Maryanne Ambrose: definitely Margaret Justen: as Kathleen Motte: Okay. Margaret Justen: like Maryanne Ambrose: picked Margaret Justen: a mouse Maryanne Ambrose: up remotes Margaret Justen: you could Maryanne Ambrose: and like meant to Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: change the channel and turn the volume, or Amy Valdez: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: vice versa, so it'd be Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: kinda good to have them be feel completely different. You'd know what you were fiddling with. Yeah. Margaret Justen: Yeah, like Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Margaret Justen: the shape Amy Valdez: That Kathleen Motte: or Margaret Justen: of Amy Valdez: was Margaret Justen: it almost Kathleen Motte: yeah Margaret Justen: like a Kathleen Motte: uh Margaret Justen: mouse, Kathleen Motte: th th Margaret Justen: with Kathleen Motte: the Margaret Justen: a Kathleen Motte: I mean thi this is what the we have to come up with is the the actual shape that people can ins instantly pick it up and and know Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: know uh know what it's going to do. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: Okay, so we we're looking at sliders for both a uh volume and channel change Amy Valdez: Um well I was Kathleen Motte: of Amy Valdez: thinking Kathleen Motte: one sort. Amy Valdez: kind of just for the volume, Kathleen Motte: Just Amy Valdez: but Kathleen Motte: for the volume, Amy Valdez: what Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: uh. Amy Valdez: what Margaret Justen: Dep Amy Valdez: do you guys think? Margaret Justen: I dunno if it Amy Valdez: We Margaret Justen: depending Amy Valdez: could Margaret Justen: on the final shape of it, 'cause you could have like, I dunno, it looks like you can c control the volume with your thumb, and then you could control Amy Valdez: Yeah, Margaret Justen: the buttons Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Margaret Justen: with your fingers. Kathleen Motte: Fingers, yeah. Amy Valdez: yeah. Kathleen Motte: I Maryanne Ambrose: if Kathleen Motte: mean it's Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Kathleen Motte: it's Maryanne Ambrose: in that kinda position the fingers would be better for pressing and Kathleen Motte: It Maryanne Ambrose: the Kathleen Motte: yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: that Kathleen Motte: I mean Maryanne Ambrose: for Kathleen Motte: it Amy Valdez: B Maryanne Ambrose: rolling, Kathleen Motte: it Maryanne Ambrose: just Kathleen Motte: it seems Maryanne Ambrose: the way it Kathleen Motte: to Margaret Justen Maryanne Ambrose: would Kathleen Motte: that Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: uh it uh it al also has the advantage that it it the two are clearly different, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm Amy Valdez: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, yeah, Kathleen Motte: um Margaret Justen: Oh yeah, yeah. Kathleen Motte: that Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: there's no no possibility of uh confusing the two. So Amy Valdez: I'm just Kathleen Motte: okay. Amy Valdez: gonna pass this along. Kathleen Motte: Right so uh that's sorry is that that all you Amy Valdez: Yes. Kathleen Motte: want to say at the mo okay, fine. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: Mm right. Margaret Justen: Here we go. Kathleen Motte: Right. Margaret Justen: Uh yeah, this is my report on trend watching. Kathleen Motte: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris, Milan on new fashions. And uh the most important aspect is the l the look it has to look fancy, look and feel Kathleen Motte: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the Kathleen Motte: Mm. Margaret Justen: second aspect, which is the technologically innov innovative um side of it. So uh and the third being easy to use is probably a given, we have to try and incorporate, so uh Kathleen Motte: Well I I mean I th I think that what we're suggesting ought to address all three of those. Margaret Justen: Uh Amy Valdez: Yeah. Margaret Justen: exactly, yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Okay. Margaret Justen: I s that out of sequence? Uh yeah, sorry. Uh yeah, and uh from the fashion watchers from Milan and Paris have said fruit and vegetables are an important theme for clothes and furniture and shoes, et cetera. Amy Valdez: Oh. Margaret Justen: Uh sorry, clothes, shoes and Kathleen Motte: Uh-huh. Margaret Justen: furniture and uh a spongy material to be used on the on the outside. Kathleen Motte: Mm I hadn't thought of that, that's different, certainly. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Margaret Justen: Yeah. But uh I was gonna say um yeah, fruit Kathleen Motte: What? Margaret Justen: and vegetables, uh important to this year um important to furniture, I'm just gonna say uh f like it's in if if fashion if we're going for the it looks fancy, then fashion is obviously the line we gotta be going through. Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: But fashions do don't last very long. Maryanne Ambrose: Well that can kinda tie into our changing uh face things, like we could have Margaret Justen: Mm. Maryanne Ambrose: the fruit and vegetable theme this year Margaret Justen: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: and uh Amy Valdez: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: whatever happens next year, we can have the Margaret Justen: Yeah, we can Maryanne Ambrose: face Margaret Justen: have a Maryanne Ambrose: plates, Margaret Justen: sp Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Margaret Justen: like a spongy skin on it and then we Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Margaret Justen: can just Kathleen Motte: Uh. Margaret Justen: whip that off and Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Amy Valdez: Yeah like the kind you get on like hand weights. You know, that Maryanne Ambrose: Mm, Amy Valdez: kind of spongy Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, that weird I dunno what that is, Kathleen Motte: Uh. Maryanne Ambrose: but Amy Valdez: yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Margaret Justen: A kind of yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Also Margaret Justen: Oh Kathleen Motte: means you can drop it without damaging it. Margaret Justen: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Uh, Margaret Justen: That's Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Margaret Justen: c Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: it's good Margaret Justen: cool. Maryanne Ambrose: as well. Amy Valdez: that's true. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: Um you have we could if we could save depending on the cost of the product itself, you know, could we have uh a cheaper b cheaper power source and then just have it annually renewed? Instead of having a ten year guarantee? With interchangeable covers, could just buy a new one every year, a new Amy Valdez: Yeah. Margaret Justen: one when new fashions come out. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: I I mean it its uh I that's an interesting idea, it's like the old Swatch watch where uh um on only batteries ever got changed in those, 'cause people just bought a new one when it went out of fashion, but Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: it's just never been seen as a a fashion item before. Margaret Justen: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: Um that's Amy Valdez: Wh Kathleen Motte: yes Maryanne Ambrose: I Kathleen Motte: if if if they're made in sufficient quantity Maryanne Ambrose: I think it's easier sometimes to have them buy changeable covers for it than to buy a whole new one, because you don't feel like you're investing in a whole new product. Kathleen Motte: W I mean we we can uh uh b but I mean my feeling is that Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: current power sources are such that Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: for relatively little cost you can make it last, you know, a long time. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: Um but if we also make it cheap enough that people either change the cover every year or Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: even buy a new one every year then it it's it's even better. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: What if we Margaret Justen: Mm-hmm. Amy Valdez: included the batteries in the cover? Maryanne Ambrose: Oh yeah. Amy Valdez: So Maryanne Ambrose: I like Amy Valdez: um Maryanne Ambrose: that. That Amy Valdez: like Maryanne Ambrose: all c also kind of encourages 'em to buy new covers and yeah. Amy Valdez: Yeah, so can I see that Maryanne Ambrose: Um. Amy Valdez: thing? Kathleen Motte: S Amy Valdez: Just this Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Amy Valdez: as examples. Kathleen Motte: yeah, I n I know the only p Amy Valdez: So Kathleen Motte: I mean Amy Valdez: f Kathleen Motte: the the the the immediate thing that comes to mind with that is that it it it y you've then got the connection and you've immediately got a sort of unreliability, whereas Maryanne Ambrose: Uh yeah. Kathleen Motte: the advantage of having it plumbed in is that that the whole thing is all, you know, completely soldered together Amy Valdez: Yeah, I Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: guess that's Kathleen Motte: and it it it you know, total Amy Valdez: true. Kathleen Motte: reliability, but I mean I d I I uh I know what you're saying and uh understand Margaret Justen: Or Kathleen Motte: where you're coming from. Margaret Justen: well, but like uh like more than just the battery, like a complete different like you've only got like, you know like th uh this bit's the bit you keep, and this is the expensive bit, this is like the chip and this is Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then Kathleen Motte: I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route, then we're talking about uh even if it costs slightly more than that, um just building the whole thing in one, then having Margaret Justen: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: getting Margaret Justen: you probably Kathleen Motte: cheaper Margaret Justen: are right. Kathleen Motte: production costs um and, you know giving people the option of buying a new uh a a complete new thing, the advantage of a replaceable cover is that even if they don't it doesn't have a cover on at all, it will still work Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: um Amy Valdez: that's true. Kathleen Motte: totally. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Um Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: then if, Amy Valdez: yeah. Kathleen Motte: you know, if people lose the cover, I mean they they might be well inclined to go out and spend however many Euros on a on a new one Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: um rather than a a complete new Maryanne Ambrose: Well Kathleen Motte: re Maryanne Ambrose: that that's Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: remote. Maryanne Ambrose: just it with the covers, you're sort of tricking 'em into continuing to spend their money on our products without making 'em feel like they're being ripped off having to buy a new product. Kathleen Motte: Yeah, I Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: mean it Maryanne Ambrose: So, Kathleen Motte: is Amy Valdez: just Kathleen Motte: it's Amy Valdez: another Kathleen Motte: up to it's Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Amy Valdez: five Kathleen Motte: up to Amy Valdez: Euro to get Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: Yeah, it's it's up to our marketing people Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: to Amy Valdez: Right. Kathleen Motte: to ma to ma turn it into a a fashion item. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm, yeah. Kathleen Motte: Um and, you know, as as external fashions change, then we get new new covers Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: on the market and, you know, readily available. And Maryanne Ambrose: And that's the Kathleen Motte: um Maryanne Ambrose: sort of thing, once you get the mould set, you can just whip out different colours, different Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: pictures Amy Valdez: like they have Maryanne Ambrose: very Amy Valdez: for Maryanne Ambrose: very Amy Valdez: mobile Maryanne Ambrose: quickly. Amy Valdez: phones Kathleen Motte: that's Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: that's Amy Valdez: that Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Kathleen Motte: right, Amy Valdez: are just Maryanne Ambrose: exactly, Kathleen Motte: yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: exactly. Kathleen Motte: yeah. Amy Valdez: fruits and animal prints Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: and colours. Yeah, Kathleen Motte: So Amy Valdez: okay. Kathleen Motte: uh i so uh okay. Um right, sorry. Um we hadn't finished your Margaret Justen: Um oh, don't worry it's all said, I was just gonna say uh yeah, are we gonna make this as part of like like uh a part of the f like it it the fashions apply to furniture, so are we gonna make this part of the furniture? Kathleen Motte: It's the sort of thing that we want people to have prominent dis displayed Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: on their Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: um coffee table to say this says something about Margaret Justen. Um Margaret Justen: Yeah. This is fashionable Kathleen Motte: this Margaret Justen: with Kathleen Motte: is fashionable. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: I, you know, I'm I'm I'm with it, I'm up to date. And you know, th the the design that I've got, and and it could be a a home-made design, um you know this says this is not just a a television remote control, this is, you know, a fashion accessory. Um, so I mean the the the basic shape i is is what we uh I mean given that we've got you know one one on off button presumably, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: two buttons for uh channel change and one slider and basically nothing else, um w we need to decide on the just the basic shape of the thing. And, know whether we go down the fruit and veg route, and I don't suggest we make it look like a banana, but um know sort of the the organic, you know, curved look, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: you Margaret Justen: Oh Kathleen Motte: know, Margaret Justen: yeah. Kathleen Motte: t to deliberately get away from the uh um uh you know, the the the the square look of most um current uh remotes and, you know, whether whether the you know, the the fixed part of it is the corporate yellow. Um mm or uh 'cause there's certainly you know, the the corporate logo needs to be prominently uh displayed so that people s th looked at it and say right, that's a Real Reaction remote control, I want one of those. Maryanne Ambrose: I dunno that we should make the whole thing yellow I kinda thought with a you'd have like a yellow circle with the R_R_ in it somewhere Kathleen Motte: Yeah uh Maryanne Ambrose: on Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: the Maryanne Ambrose: it, Amy Valdez: like Kathleen Motte: the Maryanne Ambrose: but I'd Amy Valdez: an. Kathleen Motte: uh Maryanne Ambrose: yellow Kathleen Motte: or or b Maryanne Ambrose: seems a bit of a strong colour Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: to Kathleen Motte: I'd Maryanne Ambrose: make Kathleen Motte: I'd Maryanne Ambrose: the ent like Kathleen Motte: um Maryanne Ambrose: the thing no, Kathleen Motte: yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: but I mean just Amy Valdez: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: like Kathleen Motte: Uh Maryanne Ambrose: white Kathleen Motte: no I Maryanne Ambrose: or Kathleen Motte: d Maryanne Ambrose: grey Kathleen Motte: I I Maryanne Ambrose: or Kathleen Motte: agree, Maryanne Ambrose: black Kathleen Motte: I mean Maryanne Ambrose: or some sort Kathleen Motte: we're Maryanne Ambrose: of Kathleen Motte: we're we're Maryanne Ambrose: blah Kathleen Motte: simply Maryanne Ambrose: colour. Kathleen Motte: it's simply required Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: to Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: incorporate the Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: the the the corporate Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: logo prominently Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: um. Margaret Justen: And make that a fashion Amy Valdez: Well Margaret Justen: symbol Amy Valdez: n Margaret Justen: as well. Kathleen Motte: Well, th this is this is the whole point, yes, you know, I'm I've got a a Real Reaction uh remote control to go with my Real Reaction coffee maker or or whatever. And uh then people, you know, people demand more Real Reaction Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: stuff. Amy Valdez: Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um a shape that's almost like a mouse. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Amy Valdez: So Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: that, you know, when they hold it it's because a mouse is pretty comfortable to hold in your hand um maybe we could make it a slightly different shape so they could hold on to it, but that way they can have the volume on the side and then the channel buttons and Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Amy Valdez: have the power, wherever, somewhere. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: I mean Kathleen Motte: I mean Amy Valdez: that was Kathleen Motte: I've Amy Valdez: just Kathleen Motte: uh Amy Valdez: an Kathleen Motte: yeah. Amy Valdez: idea that I had. Kathleen Motte: Oh no that well there's the sim my my idea was something a b probably you know a bit fatter than this but sort of Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: tha that sorta shape so Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: that you can Amy Valdez: maybe. Kathleen Motte: just sort of Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: ho Maryanne Ambrose: you'd want Kathleen Motte: hold Maryanne Ambrose: it Kathleen Motte: it. Maryanne Ambrose: narrower Amy Valdez: Kind Maryanne Ambrose: than Amy Valdez: of a Maryanne Ambrose: a Amy Valdez: c Maryanne Ambrose: mouse though 'cause it a mouse you're kinda just resting on it, you want something you can definitely grip. Kathleen Motte: W it Maryanne Ambrose: So Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: I mean Maryanne Ambrose: maybe Kathleen Motte: well Maryanne Ambrose: it'd Kathleen Motte: it's Maryanne Ambrose: be Kathleen Motte: sort of it's it's sort Amy Valdez: Sort Kathleen Motte: of Amy Valdez: of a combination. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: uh a Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: a mouse, but held, Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: you know, so it's you sorta hold Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: it in your hand like that, i Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: with, Maryanne Ambrose: and Kathleen Motte: you know, Maryanne Ambrose: fiddle Kathleen Motte: and Maryanne Ambrose: around Kathleen Motte: fiddling Maryanne Ambrose: with it and press Kathleen Motte: with the buttons. Maryanne Ambrose: it. Amy Valdez: Yeah so yeah, kind of maybe maybe a little wider than this, 'cause this is pretty comfortable to hold, and then if you had Maryanne Ambrose: Maybe almost like a hairbrush, like you could get the about the width of that end of the Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: pen and then it widens up top Amy Valdez: then wider Maryanne Ambrose: and you Amy Valdez: up Maryanne Ambrose: can Amy Valdez: here. Maryanne Ambrose: fiddle an Amy Valdez: And then Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Amy Valdez: it would have a l uh wider thing Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Amy Valdez: to uh have Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Amy Valdez: the light, the Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: infrared light at the T_V_ and just kinda change channels and adjust Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Amy Valdez: the volume and the power could be wherever, up up the top or something. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, cool. Amy Valdez: What do you guys think about that? Margaret Justen: Yeah, that sounds Kathleen Motte: Okay, yeah, yeah. Margaret Justen: Um I'm just I'm suddenly realising that yeah we're discussing how much how good it's gonna be to change channels t we still can just tell it to. I mean are we are we starting to get away from the the voice functionality of it? Amy Valdez: Oh yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: It's a very good point. Amy Valdez: It is Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: a very good point. Kathleen Motte: I think we d I think we decided that w we're actually going down both routes. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: That Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: um the we n we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form, Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: but that uh Maryanne Ambrose: But Kathleen Motte: yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: do you know, this shape also kind of les lend itself to to voice 'cause if you're you're holding it and you're fiddling, but you can also Kathleen Motte: Then you just Maryanne Ambrose: bring it up Kathleen Motte: bring Maryanne Ambrose: like Kathleen Motte: it up Maryanne Ambrose: that Kathleen Motte: to your mouth Maryanne Ambrose: and it's Kathleen Motte: and just Maryanne Ambrose: microphone-esque, Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: speak Amy Valdez: say Kathleen Motte: to it, yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Kathleen Motte: yeah. Margaret Justen: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Margaret Justen: maybe we cou like w like we're leaving out the buttons for the the f less frequently used stuff, but maybe we could Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Margaret Justen: incorporate that into the voice. Kathleen Motte: I th I th honest uh my personal view is that if it's not there, people wouldn't use it anyway Margaret Justen: Mm I suppose, but Kathleen Motte: um. Margaret Justen: t there is the off chance that, you know, th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing. Kathleen Motte: It's cer it's certainly possible I mean, but they Maryanne Ambrose: Bu Kathleen Motte: we we're going beyond Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: w w given the state of the technology we want something that we kno we know will will work Margaret Justen: Hmm yeah. Kathleen Motte: um. Maryanne Ambrose: Well you can still i incorporate the voice with with less buttons. I mean uh if the power button was also somehow like a menu button you could press that and or do voice commands, and either volume thing could Kathleen Motte: Uh Maryanne Ambrose: also be to scroll through other options like y and you could scroll Margaret Justen: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: through brightness Margaret Justen: that's a good idea. Maryanne Ambrose: and Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: and Amy Valdez: I suppose Maryanne Ambrose: sc and then you Amy Valdez: I sup Maryanne Ambrose: can you can minimise the buttons and still have Kathleen Motte: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: those, you know, brightness Margaret Justen: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: and tint and stuff. Kathleen Motte: If we we're I mean I'm getting a clear message that we think that we should have those facilities available. Amy Valdez: So I guess we could have a Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah Amy Valdez: menu button as well. We could have the channels and the power and then a menu button Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Amy Valdez: and then the volume. So have four buttons and the volume instead of three buttons and the volume. Kathleen Motte: Uh uh uh Okay, if we if we're going down that route, then we need some sort of display. Do we Maryanne Ambrose: But Kathleen Motte: need Maryanne Ambrose: the Kathleen Motte: some Maryanne Ambrose: television Kathleen Motte: sort of display? Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: would be Amy Valdez: that's Kathleen Motte: We Maryanne Ambrose: the display Kathleen Motte: actually Amy Valdez: on the Maryanne Ambrose: that Kathleen Motte: use Amy Valdez: T_V_, Kathleen Motte: the television, Maryanne Ambrose: things Amy Valdez: yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: like that usually c pop Kathleen Motte: okay. Maryanne Ambrose: up on a televi Amy Valdez: Yeah, and Maryanne Ambrose: like Amy Valdez: then Maryanne Ambrose: you hit Amy Valdez: y Maryanne Ambrose: menu Kathleen Motte: Okay, Maryanne Ambrose: and menu will come up on television Kathleen Motte: okay, Maryanne Ambrose: and have like tint brightness, Kathleen Motte: okay. Maryanne Ambrose: and you'd use the scroll, Margaret Justen: Well Maryanne Ambrose: scroll through it Margaret Justen: I Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Margaret Justen: mean on a Kathleen Motte: Yep. Margaret Justen: as well, you could press it, Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Margaret Justen: you could press that Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Margaret Justen: and have Maryanne Ambrose: that's Margaret Justen: it as Maryanne Ambrose: true. Margaret Justen: a menu Amy Valdez: press Margaret Justen: button. Amy Valdez: that is t yeah, that Maryanne Ambrose: I Amy Valdez: might Maryanne Ambrose: never Amy Valdez: work. Maryanne Ambrose: understood how that worked though, but yeah. Amy Valdez: Yeah, it's like um yeah, it's like the mouse Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, Amy Valdez: where you just kinda click it. Maryanne Ambrose: mm. Amy Valdez: You just press it. Yeah, and you could just click that to so if you had like the menu then you could scroll through and then Maryanne Ambrose: Mm, Amy Valdez: click it Maryanne Ambrose: oka Amy Valdez: to select. Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Yeah. Margaret Justen: Uh yeah. Amy Valdez: You know what I mean? Kathleen Motte: Mm yeah. Okay, we got five minutes to go in this Amy Valdez: Okay. Kathleen Motte: meeting, so um I d I think we've actually very conveniently just uh come to uh a good point to s to Maryanne Ambrose: Cool. Kathleen Motte: sum up um. So um b b Kate and Kendra now go away and uh Maryanne Ambrose: Play with Kathleen Motte: pa play Maryanne Ambrose: play-dough. Kathleen Motte: play with a bit of Plasticine or play-dough, whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic. Margaret Justen: Hmm. Kathleen Motte: Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh I was gonna say concrete, but that's a slightly inappropriate word um to something that we can we can see and um Andrew n can go away and th th think about how we can uh actually market this as a concept and not j not just a uh um a a simple remote control. Margaret Justen: Uh can I just get some things clear just for Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Margaret Justen: my Kathleen Motte: certainly, Margaret Justen: sake. Kathleen Motte: of course. Margaret Justen: Our energy source is gonna be Kathleen Motte: I Margaret Justen: long Kathleen Motte: think Margaret Justen: term. Kathleen Motte: I think we decided that we're gonna for for simplicity of, you know, manufacturing and uh maintenance that we will go for a a long term Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: battery source Margaret Justen: Cool. Kathleen Motte: um, Margaret Justen: Uh Kathleen Motte: I you know, on the basis that um that, you know, if we're going for making it a fashion statement, then uh people are more likely to change it anyway uh before i it runs out and um make an assumption that we we can aim for a battery that will last most people for uh we'll say at least five five ten years Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: and that we'll w we will guarantee it for for five years um. Margaret Justen: And we're having a custom chip? Kathleen Motte: We're having a a custom chip, but given the the we've cut the functions down, um that will hopefully not be too problematic, but given that um technol technological innovation is important, then we need to, I'll say it again, technologically innovate. Um and uh we we, know, we must resist any efforts to uh to try and water that down um. Margaret Justen: And interchangeable case? Kathleen Motte: I i interchangeable case seems to be um Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: um important to the concept. Um it it should be cheap, you know, if if Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: we avoid any, Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: you know, electrical connections. And uh i you know, i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it Margaret Justen: Mm, mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: uh to whatever they want, then uh I mean uh uh this is totally new. We d we don't know whether that to what extent people do it or not, but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway, and uh and if if we can keep them, you know, rolling, then uh you know, so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets, I won't mention any mention any names, um it's uh it's good for the supermarket and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better. Margaret Justen: And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or Kathleen Motte: Um the that I mean that's no, because we've got so few buttons that it that actually makes that redundant. Amy Valdez: Yeah, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm, does actually, Margaret Justen: Cool. Amy Valdez: I think Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, Amy Valdez: so too. Yeah, and Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Amy Valdez: especially for making them so like Maryanne Ambrose: Mm Amy Valdez: different Maryanne Ambrose: different Kathleen Motte: Yeah, Amy Valdez: and Maryanne Ambrose: to feel, Kathleen Motte: yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: yeah, yeah. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: And the you know, that that solves one of the problems of b of battery life, Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: 'cause that Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: would Maryanne Ambrose: Yep, Kathleen Motte: well that would clobber Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: the battery life, so Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: no, I mean Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: given the nature of the buttons we're having, it's actually uh uh unnecessary I think. Amy Valdez: Yeah. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Margaret Justen: Are we having it that it's any angle, or is it just Kathleen Motte: As uh as wide Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah. Margaret Justen: As wide Kathleen Motte: cer Margaret Justen: as possible. Kathleen Motte: certainly wider angle than than current, so that if you're holding it, you know, anyway Amy Valdez: Like Maryanne Ambrose: Mm Kathleen Motte: like Amy Valdez: this Kathleen Motte: you're likely Amy Valdez: or like Kathleen Motte: to Amy Valdez: this. Maryanne Ambrose: yeah. Kathleen Motte: and uh it's uh you know, i i it will work most of the time um. Not like my my mum who points it at the ceiling and wonders why the th th the television doesn't work. Um yeah, I mean I d I th I sorta envisaged that if if this was the the thing, then sort of the the whole of the top would be Amy Valdez: Yeah, Kathleen Motte: the Maryanne Ambrose: Mm-hmm. Amy Valdez: kinda Kathleen Motte: uh Amy Valdez: like this Kathleen Motte: the Amy Valdez: whole Kathleen Motte: infrared uh. Maryanne Ambrose: Yeah, mm. Amy Valdez: So Kathleen Motte: Um Amy Valdez: you could use Kathleen Motte: so Amy Valdez: like this and it would go. Maryanne Ambrose: Mm. Kathleen Motte: Yeah, 'cause I mean the r reality is people are they're gonna be looking at the television whilst they're using it, the chances are, so if if Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: they're holding it anyway, the they're reasonably likely to be holding it to use it, then uh Amy Valdez: Yeah. Kathleen Motte: then that that's the sort of coverage that we want. Um okay, d we're all clear Maryanne Ambrose: Yep, Amy Valdez: Yep. Maryanne Ambrose: sounds good. Kathleen Motte: where we go from here. Margaret Justen: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Motte: Okay, so thank you very much indeed Maryanne Ambrose: 'Kay. Kathleen Motte: and I'll s see you all again in thirty minutes. Amy Valdez: Okay. Maryanne Ambrose: 'Kay.	Kathleen Motte opens the meeting by recapping the discussions of the previous meeting, telling the group this meeting's agenda, and stating what each person will do for the next meeting. Then Maryanne Ambrose talks about the components design and explains exactly what remotes do and how they operate. He also talks about batteries and chips. The interface specialist present research from the internet about user interface. He talks about minimizing the clutter on the remote, and suggests using a slide button like on a mouse. Margaret Justen presents, talking about trend-watching and how fruits and vegetables are currently an important theme. They talk about making changable colors available and possibly including batteries with them. They discuss what the remote should look like in terms of shape color, and then talk about components, materials, and energy sources. Then they close the meeting.	4	amisum	train
Carol Edge: Right well. Welcome to the what should be the last of these meetings and uh it looks like we've uh done a good job here and uh we'll just go through the the final uh the final details. Um okay, oh the um th the the minutes of the last meeting uh I think we'll take those as read, um Okay the um th the the next uh thing we we we'll have a look at the uh th have a look at the prototypes and uh look at the uh evaluation and finance and then uh uh just tidy up with production and um and then we can close. Um So f if if you'd like to uh present your your proposals. Miriam Rodriquez: Uh okay we basically have the same kinda here it's just um you hold it like this and it gets kinda moulded to the to the shape of your hand, basically. Um on the left we've got the scroll for the volume, on the right we have buttons for the channels up and down and that kinda so you can hold it and scroll, or you can hold it and and push. Uh this is the power key, um it's kinda like the biggest Carol Edge: Uh-huh. Miriam Rodriquez: Uh that's the little menu key. This is the infra-red section so you g it'll be sending rays and if you're you know pointing it like that it can send it, Carol Edge: Yep, Miriam Rodriquez: or if you hold it up Carol Edge: yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: like that it'll send Carol Edge: good, Miriam Rodriquez: it. Carol Edge: good. Miriam Rodriquez: Uh we got a microphone there which for all the voice commands so you can Carol Edge: Uh-huh. Miriam Rodriquez: you know talk to it like that and it'll still Carol Edge: Yep, Miriam Rodriquez: understand. Carol Edge: right. Miriam Rodriquez: Um the logo is down down there Carol Edge: Uh-huh. Carol Frazier: Mm. Miriam Rodriquez: um Carol Frazier: S Miriam Rodriquez: and has the cover on it and you can see like it just kinda goes the red bit's the cover and it kinda goes over everything Carol Edge: Yep, Miriam Rodriquez: and then there's holes Carol Edge: yep, Miriam Rodriquez: for the buttons to Carol Edge: mm-hmm. Miriam Rodriquez: come through. Um. Carol Frazier: And so we figured it be of you know light, just Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Frazier: kind Carol Edge: Uh-huh. Carol Frazier: of a light Carol Edge: Yep yep. Carol Frazier: non-descript grey so that people'll wanna buy the covers Carol Edge: Yep. Carol Frazier: and then the covers will be that sort of rubbery material like they make iPod covers, so they kinda just stretch over. Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: showing Hilary Meyn age, I don't know what i c iPod covers are like. Carol Frazier: Yeah, well I Carol Edge: Yeah Carol Frazier: I didn't know that but Carol Edge: yeah. Carol Frazier: yeah they're kind of it's just kind of a rubbery Carol Edge: Uh-huh. Carol Frazier: and that way Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Frazier: you know spongy Carol Edge: Okay, Carol Frazier: like is something that people Carol Edge: yep, Carol Frazier: wanted Carol Edge: right. Carol Frazier: and it just sort of stretches over and Miriam Rodriquez: Mm-hmm. Carol Frazier: that way I think probably helps protect it a little bit too as well Miriam Rodriquez: But Carol Frazier: and Miriam Rodriquez: it's also Carol Edge: Okay. Miriam Rodriquez: e e easier to put on versus like mobile covers you actually have to screw them on and stuff and you kinda sometimes have to get someone to do that for you. This is very much you should be Carol Edge: Yep. Miriam Rodriquez: able Carol Frazier: just Miriam Rodriquez: to stretch Carol Frazier: kinda Miriam Rodriquez: it over Carol Frazier: stretch it Miriam Rodriquez: yourself Carol Frazier: over Miriam Rodriquez: and it'll be fine. Carol Edge: Okay, Carol Frazier: and Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Edge: good Carol Frazier: it'll just stay Carol Edge: yeah. Carol Frazier: on and then the Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Frazier: buttons come through and so and then the each one of 'em on the very end will have the logo with the yellow Carol Edge: Yep, Carol Frazier: circle Carol Edge: right. Carol Frazier: and the R_R_. Miriam Rodriquez: Li that'll be the covers as well, Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: Yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: yeah Carol Edge: yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: I mean tha it's it's a detailed point, I just wondered I mean h how will people put these down I wonder? Carol Frazier: Like that. Carol Edge: Right. Okay for some strange re reason I had it in my mind that they'd put them Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah Carol Edge: down Miriam Rodriquez: it could Carol Edge: vertically Miriam Rodriquez: stand, Carol Edge: but Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: uh Carol Frazier: Oh. Carol Edge: uh Miriam Rodriquez: Well we could broaden the broaden it out a bit so it would stand Carol Edge: Yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: like Carol Edge: uh no Miriam Rodriquez: that. Carol Edge: because particularly if they've dif if they're gonna have it as a you know as a fashion item Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Edge: uh Miriam Rodriquez: standing. Carol Edge: I mean it it's uh it it's just I mean it's just a minor detailed point, but um as you say you can just make the base a little bit bigger Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Edge: and Miriam Rodriquez: we could Carol Edge: uh Miriam Rodriquez: just widen it out uh Carol Edge: Yeah and uh it just needs another uh another logo somewhere is is is is all it gives gives people the option Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: and if if say if they've got them Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: um because actually have several upon the uh Hilary Meyn: Could have one for your Miriam Rodriquez: Mm, Hilary Meyn: stereo, one Carol Edge: Yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: yeah, Carol Frazier: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: well. Hilary Meyn: your D_V_ Miriam Rodriquez: Have Hilary Meyn: player. Miriam Rodriquez: to if we just lengthen Carol Frazier: Yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: it I guess so it comes Carol Edge: Yeah Carol Frazier: just Miriam Rodriquez: down Carol Frazier: kind Miriam Rodriquez: to the Carol Edge: but Miriam Rodriquez: base Carol Edge: that Carol Frazier: of Miriam Rodriquez: of Carol Edge: that's Miriam Rodriquez: the hand and then Carol Edge: uh Miriam Rodriquez: flatten Carol Edge: but Miriam Rodriquez: it out Carol Edge: uh Miriam Rodriquez: and Carol Edge: no Miriam Rodriquez: could Carol Edge: the Miriam Rodriquez: sit there. Carol Edge: the the overall Carol Frazier: Or Carol Edge: uh Carol Frazier: just make Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Frazier: it little. Carol Edge: the Miriam Rodriquez: mm. Carol Edge: overall concept is uh Carol Frazier: Somewhere Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Frazier: like that Carol Edge: yeah yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Edge: no no, I mean that's Carol Frazier: so it just Carol Edge: these Carol Frazier: sort Carol Edge: uh Carol Frazier: of Miriam Rodriquez: We might Hilary Meyn: Yeah I kinda Miriam Rodriquez: have to Hilary Meyn: had Miriam Rodriquez: lengthen Hilary Meyn: a Miriam Rodriquez: it so it kinda your Hilary Meyn: a kinda Miriam Rodriquez: hand still Hilary Meyn: a natural Miriam Rodriquez: holds it and have Hilary Meyn: kind Carol Frazier: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: it Hilary Meyn: of Miriam Rodriquez: there, Hilary Meyn: a idea where Miriam Rodriquez: yeah, Hilary Meyn: it's like Miriam Rodriquez: yeah, yeah Hilary Meyn: more Miriam Rodriquez: like Hilary Meyn: of Miriam Rodriquez: that, Hilary Meyn: a kind Miriam Rodriquez: like Hilary Meyn: of Miriam Rodriquez: that. Hilary Meyn: like Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Frazier: Bu Hilary Meyn: a kinda maybe slightly like thinner, yeah, kinda Carol Edge: Yeah. Hilary Meyn: like that kinda like a flower Carol Edge: But uh Hilary Meyn: or a plant Carol Edge: yeah Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Hilary Meyn: for Carol Edge: but Hilary Meyn: the more Carol Edge: no Hilary Meyn: natural Carol Edge: th but Hilary Meyn: kinda Carol Edge: the yeah the the the Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it it's uh Carol Frazier: fall Carol Edge: wouldn't Miriam Rodriquez: The final Carol Frazier: over. Miriam Rodriquez: product Carol Edge: wouldn't do Miriam Rodriquez: would Carol Edge: that, Miriam Rodriquez: actually Carol Edge: indeed Miriam Rodriquez: stand Carol Edge: yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: up, yeah. Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: But th th but th yeah th b the these were all minor minor Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: uh minor Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: details, I think the uh the basic Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Edge: concept Carol Frazier: 'S a little Carol Edge: i i Carol Frazier: longer. Carol Edge: is is absolutely bang on Miriam Rodriquez: Wee Carol Edge: and the i it certainly meets our criteria of being uh Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: of you know looking different. Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: Um, so good that's that that's excellent. Um right let us um What's on the next one? Oh right yes, let's have a look at the um f finance. Um, now we're given a a clear design brief, uh if I get the uh spreadsheet up. Oh. Hilary Meyn: Uh yeah, just click there. Uh the the maximise button. Carol Edge: Oh right. Ah. Good, this is why we need to make these things simple so that the uh the the the boss can understand. Now I've um this is the company's uh uh costing for for various uh uh aspects of design and I I I've treated some of these slightly uh liberally given the constraints placed on us, um I wouldn't know for in for instance if if they require us to have it in the corporate colours, then that is not a special colour, that's a that's a standard colour. Uh, so we're just simply on batteries, the the one th the one decision I've had to make is that um we're we will have to find a s a regular standard chip to to do this with and I I um I'm I'm I'm certain that they they are around so, um that I don't think is a a serious problem. The uh the the voice sensor is is expensive but we we made a a basic decision that that was absolutely fundamental to the to the design so that that has to stay. Um then again the the the the shape of the case means that it's it's expensive to uh um l to make 'cause of the the th the double curves but on the other hand because of our overall fashion concept um we we should exceed the the sales targets. Um it's simply made of plastic so th that's uh that's no problem and uh um just because the whole the colour of the the whole thing that's uh uh there's some cost there. Um and uh we haven't actually got a scroll wheel we we we got push buttons and and a simple uh um slider so um and the and the the buttons are uh uh well I do don't know that they're special colour. Anyway the the costings uh come in at exactly on target at twelve point five uh but I thi I think we have a a very strong case to argue that uh what what we've got is is so in innovative and uh and different that um any any slight compromise we have to make on on cost is is offset by the uh you know the uh you know the the Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: the the concept of it being a a fashion accessory and and having the the interchangeable covers so uh um you know the if if Carol Edge: they have to accept that we we can't operate absolutely Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: within uh the constraints that they give, so uh we we we present this as the uh the company's uh the the company's way forward and uh uh I I think we can argue that we we have uh come in on on budget. Um. Okay, uh. So um. Does anybody want to uh uh Andrew do you want what do you want to say about um the uh Hilary Meyn: Evaluation. Carol Edge: yeah the evaluation where where you know well where where we're where where we're at? Hilary Meyn: The the product or the project? Carol Edge: The the the well the I meant the product. Hilary Meyn: Um, well well my presentation just now Carol Edge: Yeah. Hilary Meyn: Sure? uh can I get the Carol Edge: Oh sorry yeah um, mm. Hilary Meyn: Cheers. Carol Edge: Mm. More loud clicks in the microphone. Hilary Meyn: There we go, oh. Method of evaluation testing the product was to just if it met all the criteria all the conditions that we set out to set out to solve, from the point of view of the the consumer and the management. So what I've been asked to do is, on the whiteboard um gauge our team response to these questions. So, on a scale of one to seven, one being true and seven being being false. Carol Edge: Seven being a nice round number to work to. Hilary Meyn: Yeah. And then at the end just take an average Carol Edge: Tr On for true and seven for flase. Hilary Meyn: Yes. Carol Edge: Yes. Hilary Meyn: So uh. Hilary Meyn: So, look at these questions. Is the device f flashy and fashionable? Carol Edge: Well I think most Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah Carol Frazier: I Carol Edge: definitely. Carol Frazier: think Miriam Rodriquez: I'd Carol Frazier: it Miriam Rodriquez: say Carol Frazier: is yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: definitely a one yeah. Hilary Meyn: So uh and also uh technologically innovative? Carol Edge: Yes Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Edge: the Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: voice technology Miriam Rodriquez: defi yeah, Carol Edge: indeed. Miriam Rodriquez: yeah Hilary Meyn: Easy to use? Carol Edge: I don't see Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: we could've Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Edge: made it any easier. Hilary Meyn: Uh suitable for the consumer? That was um Carol Edge: Totally. Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah definitely. Carol Frazier: Yeah I think it made we met all of the consumer Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Hilary Meyn: Yeah. Carol Frazier: wants. Hilary Meyn: Uh is it complicated? Carol Edge: No. Carol Frazier: No. Hilary Meyn: Doing pretty well so far aren't we? Uh functional? Carol Edge: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah Carol Frazier: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: definitely. Hilary Meyn: Um. Where are we? Carol Edge: found easily. Hilary Meyn: We've b Carol Edge: yeah I mean Hilary Meyn: built in the Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Hilary Meyn: the speech, Carol Edge: that's Hilary Meyn: where Carol Edge: that's Hilary Meyn: are Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Hilary Meyn: you, Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Hilary Meyn: function. Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: mm-hmm. Hilary Meyn: Uh-huh. Carol Edge: Does it take long to learn to use? Shouldn't. Miriam Rodriquez: No, not at Hilary Meyn: Mm-hmm. Miriam Rodriquez: all. Hilary Meyn: And uh, what else? The R_S_I_ compares to the current standards, well. Carol Edge: Less buttons Miriam Rodriquez: Uh Carol Edge: so it must be. Hilary Meyn: We we uh yeah it Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah Hilary Meyn: was our it was a we made Miriam Rodriquez: it Hilary Meyn: an Miriam Rodriquez: is Hilary Meyn: actual effort Miriam Rodriquez: sorta Hilary Meyn: to Miriam Rodriquez: the the handle more ergonomically correct as well. Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: So yeah, Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: um um. Hilary Meyn: Um will device appeal to all age groups? Carol Edge: I think it will Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: because Carol Frazier: I think so. Carol Edge: I mean uh old older people who can't manage the buttons anyway will actually probably Hilary Meyn: Yeah, Carol Edge: like the like Hilary Meyn: uh Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Hilary Meyn: that's a good call, yeah. Carol Edge: like the voice bit Hilary Meyn: Well Carol Edge: so Hilary Meyn: we had the we had the data saying that old people will be less likely to pay extra money but the funct the increased functionality, the e ease of use of the device might make up for that. Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: And it's it's it's well I don't think we're actually charging a particular premium anyway, in Miriam Rodriquez: I Carol Edge: the Hilary Meyn: Mm. Carol Edge: end, Miriam Rodriquez: I I think Carol Edge: so Miriam Rodriquez: it Carol Frazier: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: will tend to appeal more to younger aged groups just 'cause we have gone with the fashion Carol Edge: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: focus and the younger Carol Edge: Yeah. Miriam Rodriquez: people tend to would be more conscious of that aspect of it, but um I think it should still appeal on a certain level Carol Edge: It will appeal Miriam Rodriquez: to everybody, Carol Edge: f for dif for Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Edge: different reasons Carol Frazier: Yeah Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Frazier: I Carol Edge: but Carol Frazier: think Carol Edge: it's Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Frazier: just Carol Edge: it's Carol Frazier: the Carol Edge: uh Carol Frazier: simplicity of Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Frazier: it Carol Edge: yeah Miriam Rodriquez: yeah. Carol Frazier: and Carol Edge: yeah so I I yeah I Carol Frazier: not having to learn to programme and not having you Carol Edge: Yeah, Carol Frazier: know a Carol Edge: so Carol Frazier: million buttons. Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah. Carol Edge: I think we can reasonably say it's another Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: another one, why not? Hilary Meyn: Uh can you just click the my mouse to move onto next page? Uh, yeah and what h did we make the management's Carol Edge: in in in in my interpretation of management's instructions uh is that yes it it meets the requirement is t it's television Miriam Rodriquez: Yep. Carol Edge: only, it's Miriam Rodriquez: Mm-hmm. Carol Edge: it's simple to use, um it's Carol Frazier: Under Carol Edge: it's Carol Frazier: the cost. Carol Edge: it's within Miriam Rodriquez: Mm-hmm. Carol Edge: budget, Miriam Rodriquez: Yep. Carol Edge: um I it's uh yes an an any minor points we we we argue. Hilary Meyn: Um. Carol Edge: So uh I I think we've Miriam Rodriquez: Yep. Carol Edge: done an amazing job in uh Hilary Meyn: Okay. Miriam Rodriquez: Well done us. Carol Edge: coming up with what Hilary Meyn: So uh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven. Eleven divided by eleven's one so Carol Frazier: Yeah, Hilary Meyn: equals average of one. Carol Edge: Need a need a calculator for that. Hilary Meyn: And that roughly concludes my evaluation of the Miriam Rodriquez: Excellent. Carol Edge: Okay, Hilary Meyn: of the product. Carol Edge: nick Carol Frazier: I Carol Edge: the Carol Frazier: mixed Carol Edge: cable Carol Frazier: up the colours Carol Edge: back Miriam Rodriquez: Oh Carol Edge: then. Miriam Rodriquez: no Carol Frazier: a little bit. Miriam Rodriquez: that's Carol Frazier: I think I all Carol Edge: Ooh. Carol Frazier: wrong. Carol Edge: Right do um either of you want to uh say anything? Miriam Rodriquez: Uh. Carol Edge: Mm. Carol Frazier: Mm. Carol Edge: Before I uh Carol Frazier: Ps I don't think so, I mean Carol Edge: No. Carol Frazier: I think we worked well together and Carol Edge: Yeah. Carol Frazier: looked really at what the consumers wanted and what we Carol Edge: Yeah. Carol Frazier: were trying to make and you know, seemed to discuss things pretty well and Miriam Rodriquez: Mm-hmm. Carol Frazier: come to group consensus and Carol Edge: Well that's right, I mean th this this slide here I mean the satisfaction with uh room for creativity, Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: I mean I think Miriam Rodriquez: Yeah, Carol Edge: we've allowed Miriam Rodriquez: definitely. Carol Edge: ourselves uh as much creativity as the uh the the the product Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: uh allows. Um I won't comment on leadership, uh teamwork I think we've uh I think everybody's uh Miriam Rodriquez: Mm-hmm. Carol Edge: worked pretty well together. Um we've just about coped with the whiteboard and digital pens, uh I think the results speak Miriam Rodriquez: Mm. Carol Edge: for itself and new ideas found, um, again gi no given relatively everyday product, Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: I think Miriam Rodriquez: Yep. Carol Edge: we've v very uh very effectively come up with a a new uh uh a new approach. Um are the costs within budget? Yes. Is the project evaluated? We're Miriam Rodriquez: Yep. Carol Edge: we're all happy that it it meets all the criteria, um Thank you very much indeed, Miriam Rodriquez: Cool, Carol Edge: I think Miriam Rodriquez: thank Carol Frazier: Alright. Miriam Rodriquez: you, Carol Edge: that I think that's uh Carol Frazier: Yeah. Carol Edge: I think we can go f for an early bath. So I call the meeting closed. Carol Frazier: Okay. Carol Edge: Not sure how far ahead of schedule we were there.	Carol Edge opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Then Miriam Rodriquez and interface specialist present the prototype, showing where they placed each button, function, and the company logo. Then they talk about the material they chose, which is light gray colored and light weight plastic so that people will want to buy covers. Next they take a brief look at the finance by examining the materials used, chip required, shape, and color. They are exactly on target at twelve point five. Next Hilary Meyn administers the product evaluation, and the group talks about whether the device is flashy and fashionable, technologically innovative, easy to use, suitable for the consumer, complicated, how long it would take to learn to use it, and its appeal to all age groups. They come up with an average of 1 for the evaluation. They briefly discuss the project process and agree that they worked well together, had excellent teamwork, and created an effective product that meets the budget cost. They close the meeting by thanking one another.	4	amisum	train
Martha Lopez: Is this okay? Wilma Tolliver: Uh yeah. Fine now. Wilma Tolliver: Oh, it's not liking us, it went that-a-way. Computer adjusting. Oh. Uh. Wilma Tolliver: Okay. So. Right. Wilma Tolliver: You ready back there? Uh okay. Welcome everyone. Um this is the kick-off meeting for the day. Um we're the new group uh to create a new remote control for Real Reaction. As you can see our agenda is to open up the meeting, um become acquainted with each other, um have a little training on tools, uh create a plan, discuss things and and we only have twenty minut twenty five minutes total. Okay. The new remote control is to be original, trendy and user-friendly. That, Steph, is your part, is the user-friendliness. The originality um is gonna take all of us. Um the trendiness we'll probably go look at for some marketing research information from you, Sarah. Um and we'll get on with it. Okay, so we'll have a functional design individual work um with meeting and then conceptual design t and then detailed design. Okay? Right. Everybody's supposed to try out the whiteboard. Kate, why don't you try it first, if you can either Ann Gray: Uh yeah, if Wilma Tolliver: bring Ann Gray: I Wilma Tolliver: your things with Ann Gray: pick with Wilma Tolliver: you, I Ann Gray: all Wilma Tolliver: guess Ann Gray: these bits and pieces, hang on. Wilma Tolliver: And while you're doing that we'll try and figure out how to hook these things on as well, 'cause we're all gonna have to be able to walk around. Ann Gray: Uh right, so you want an animal and the characteristics of that animal. Do you have to be able to recognise what animal it is? Wilma Tolliver: Uh I do not think so, I think it's just to try out the whiteboard. Ann Gray: Um Gladys Tipton: Are we all gonna draw a cat? Martha Lopez: I know. Ann Gray: Only animal I could thin I could draw. Wilma Tolliver: Ah. Ann Gray: Its a sort of bunny rabbit cat. You can tell it's not a bunny rabbit by the ears. Wilma Tolliver: Uh-huh. Ann Gray: Um I suppose it should have a mouth as well, sort of Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Ann Gray: Right, yeah. Wilma Tolliver: Great. And the characteristics? Ann Gray: Um the favourite characteristics of the cat um the whiskers I think, um because they're the easiest to draw. Wilma Tolliver: Uh-huh. Ann Gray: In fact, I'll give it some more Oh, Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Ann Gray: and the tail Wilma Tolliver: Fantastic. Since you're handy as well, why don't you do yours next, Steph. Wilma Tolliver: I think it's to get us used to using the pen. Ann Gray: Yes. Um sure it's not to test our artistic Wilma Tolliver: Uh no. Ann Gray: It's a mouse. Wilma Tolliver: A mouse-y? Gladys Tipton: That's not a mouse-y, no. Ann Gray: No it's not a mouse. It's a wombat. Wilma Tolliver: Oh. Gladys Tipton: It's a ratty. Wilma Tolliver: Argh. Ann Gray: A what? Gladys Tipton: A Wilma Tolliver: Rat. Gladys Tipton: ratty. Wilma Tolliver: Not a mouse, Ann Gray: A Wilma Tolliver: a Ann Gray: webbed Wilma Tolliver: rat. Ann Gray: foot. Webbed f Gladys Tipton: It's clothes. That's Ann Gray: Oh Gladys Tipton: it's clothes. Ann Gray: right. Gladys Tipton: It's a ratty with a with a with a very long tail. Wilma Tolliver: And your Gladys Tipton: I love Wilma Tolliver: favourite Gladys Tipton: whiskers. Wilma Tolliver: characteristics of that animal. Gladys Tipton: Uh they're intelligent and they're cheeky and uh fantastic pets and very Wilma Tolliver: Oh. Gladys Tipton: friendly. Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Gladys Tipton: And Wilma Tolliver: Kate? Gladys Tipton: they sit on your shoulder and whisper the answers to your homework in your ear when you're doing your homework. Martha Lopez: Thanks. Wilma Tolliver: Oh, a fish. Gladys Tipton: A shark? Ann Gray: Gosh, why didn't I think of fish? That's even easier to draw than cat. Martha Lopez: Mm this is very representational fish. Wilma Tolliver: Oh, okay. Fine. Martha Lopez: Um I like Wilma Tolliver: Favourite Martha Lopez: them Wilma Tolliver: characteristics? Martha Lopez: because they're sleek and they have a lot of freedom but they also do n uh swim in groups, so. Wilma Tolliver: 'Kay. So Martha Lopez: Do Wilma Tolliver: they Martha Lopez: you Wilma Tolliver: have Martha Lopez: have a favourite Wilma Tolliver: team Martha Lopez: one? Wilma Tolliver: elements. I'm afraid I'm with Steph. And I think your pen's running out of whatever. But I'm afraid I take the coward's way out, and the cat's looking the other way. He's hiding. Um cats are sometimes very independent. My parents had cats. Uh and they can mm decide for themselves what is best. Okay. Now um we have to get down to the nitty-gritty of how to make this and this remote control has to be sold um we're to sell it for twenty five Euros, with a profit aim ultimately of fifty million Euros. That tells you something about how many um we have to sell on an international scale. Um would be an awful lot of these, would be like what, a hundred million of them um to make twenty five Euros on each one and to make a total profit of fifty million. Um the production is to only cost twelve and a half Euros per item. Now if they cost twelve and a half, you're selling it for twenty five, you're making twelve and a half Euros each. Um and we're to make a profit of fifty million, that's t uh can you do the maths and how many are we selling? Martha Lopez: Uh yeah. I was just wondering if that's the um If fifty percent is normal Wilma Tolliver: Mark-up? Martha Lopez: B yeah. Um I would think would be more like sixty percent. But um Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Martha Lopez: let Martha Lopez I have two thoughts. fifty percent. And and your question is how many do we have to sell? Wilma Tolliver: Yes, 'cause our market um is international and your problem is has to do with marketing of you know, you gotta know how many we're going Martha Lopez: At twenty Wilma Tolliver: to be selling Martha Lopez: five. Wilma Tolliver: to know how big a market you have to target Martha Lopez: Mm-hmm. Wilma Tolliver: and who is that. Martha Lopez: Yeah, that's um Wilma Tolliver: To give you a pretty good idea of where you're looking. Martha Lopez: So that's four million of them? Wilma Tolliver: Something like that? Okay. Martha Lopez: Yeah. Wilma Tolliver: That's fifty million Euros. In order Martha Lopez: And if Wilma Tolliver: to make Martha Lopez: we make Wilma Tolliver: fifty million Euros, and you're only getting twelve and a half each Martha Lopez: Mm-hmm. Wilma Tolliver: That's a lot of selling. Martha Lopez: Yeah. Wilma Tolliver: Two four Martha Lopez: Four million. Wilma Tolliver: To be fifty, be four million. You'd have to sell four million. Martha Lopez: Hmm. Wilma Tolliver: Okay? Right. Experience with a remote control. Any of you use of remote control for a television or D_V_D_ or something? Ann Gray: That Wilma Tolliver: You're Martha Lopez: Yeah. Wilma Tolliver: both Ann Gray: that that's Wilma Tolliver: nodding, Ann Gray: the sorta Wilma Tolliver: all Ann Gray: product Wilma Tolliver: three. Ann Gray: we're talking about, one that will work for a in a home environment, for a Wilma Tolliver: Well Ann Gray: T_V_s and Wilma Tolliver: I've seen some remote controls that are for more than one device at a time, but I also have heard about them not working well or not well co-ordinated and you wind up working with this one for thi this three and then this Gladys Tipton: It Wilma Tolliver: one Gladys Tipton: is Wilma Tolliver: over here Gladys Tipton: true Wilma Tolliver: for another. Gladys Tipton: you know, you're sitting on your sofa and you wanna change something, there's five different remotes, and one for the D_V_D_ and one for the video and one Martha Lopez: Mm-hmm. Gladys Tipton: for cable and one for Martha Lopez: Y yeah. Gladys Tipton: whatever Wilma Tolliver: And they don't Gladys Tipton: else. Wilma Tolliver: always Gladys Tipton: But I presume Wilma Tolliver: talk to Gladys Tipton: this Wilma Tolliver: each Gladys Tipton: is Wilma Tolliver: other. Gladys Tipton: t I presume this is just for television. Wilma Tolliver: Don't know. Okay. Are there any um ideas for the remote? What would it be for and what group would be be for? We have to think about that one. Martha Lopez: We could make a Hello Kitty themed remote. Gladys Tipton: I think one in b bright colours would be good. Martha Lopez: Yeah. We Ann Gray: I Martha Lopez: could Ann Gray: think Martha Lopez: totally Ann Gray: one that works Martha Lopez: go for Ann Gray: would Martha Lopez: the Ann Gray: be good. Martha Lopez: Japan-a-mation. Well I mean there's also the cachet that um uh the Japanese make great products. Electrical their industrial design is very good. Gladys Tipton: I think one that doesn't have lots of superfluous functions. Like I've got one at home that has well, apart from the obvious, channels, channel up, channel down, volume, Martha Lopez: Yeah. Gladys Tipton: you know, subtitles, mute, there's a lotta buttons that I've got no idea what they do, like. Martha Lopez: Well, that's a really good point, because I think Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Martha Lopez: one of the things that being somewhat computer literate, we tend to um go to menus and then make choices, you know, so if it's like an uh volume button, you know, you can go in and say mute or or volume. We don't need to have like the l the numbers if we also have uh Gladys Tipton: Mm. Martha Lopez: uh channel up channel down. Wilma Tolliver: Mm. Martha Lopez: Mm. Wilma Tolliver: Okay. Martha Lopez: We can make it smart like an iPod, you know, make everything menus. Gladys Tipton: Ooh, closing the meeting. Wilma Tolliver: Yeah. Um Gladys Tipton: That was quick. Wilma Tolliver: I know this sounds like it was very quick, but the I think that's the industrial design Ann Gray: Mm. Wilma Tolliver: is the first one, that's Kate, Ann Gray: Mm-hmm. Wilma Tolliver: for the working design. And user, that's you S Steph, for the technical functions design, and for marketing the user requirements specification. I think there's going to be a lot of we have to help each other and work through this as a group, and I think we all, you know, we like our kitty-cat and our rat and our fish, but I think we all have to like each other um to get this done. says, we're gonna get individual instructions, but uh I don't think they allowed a lot of extra time, so I think a little bit of less of this and more at do will set us in good stead. Do you all agree? Gladys Tipton: Mm-hmm. Ann Gray: Mm-hmm. Wilma Tolliver: Alright. Um then I don't see any reason to prolong it and f we should finish this meeting at ni right now and go into other things. Alright, so this is the end of the first meeting. Martha Lopez: Okay. Ann Gray: 'Kay. Wilma Tolliver: Thank you all.	Wilma Tolliver opened the meeting by stating the agenda and then introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the particular animal. Wilma Tolliver briefed the team on the production and selling costs of the remote they are to create. Wilma Tolliver also briefed the team on the profit aim and discussed how many remotes must be sold in order to reach the profit aim of 50 million Euro. The team then discussed their experiences using remote controls and what features in terms of functionality and appearance to consider in making the remote.	4	amisum	train
Evelyn Botello: Uh it fell off. One, two, three, four, yeah, we're ready. Okay. Welcome to this second meeting. Um it's now quarter after twelve and we're given forty minutes um for this meeting. This is a meeting on functional design. Um and I wanna welcome you all and thank you all for doing some research in between. Um I did took the minutes from the first meeting and I'll show them to you in a moment. Um I know each of you have a presentation and in thinking about the forty minutes, I thought it would take only like three minutes for the previous minutes, um each of you having about seven minutes or maybe a little more, maybe a little less for your pre presentations and a little discussion, because there's I happen to have been told there were some new project requirements and we have to make some uh decision on what functions it will have. Okay? Is this Shannon Miller: Yes. Evelyn Botello: ap Evelyn Macias: Oops. Evelyn Botello: everybody agree with this? Laura Bellas: Yes. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Um and after the meeting there'll be things to be done and as you can see it says we get to get lunch, um and then some more individual work and then putting minutes away and individual actions. Um but uh now for the minutes of the first meeting. And go to that one. Um as you can see it was this earlier today. Um Kate, Steph, Sarah and myself in our four capacities were present. I opened the meeting, the product was developed uh and reviewed, and we talked about the financial end of it. Um and it had some implications, um the four million sales target and new ideas of not too many buttons, bright colours and some of the influence of the Japanese. And we closed early so you could then proceed with your research and getting your reports together for tod this meeting Anybody have any questions on those minutes? Are they complete, did they discuss everything that we covered last time? 'Kay. Evelyn Macias: Uh I think Evelyn Botello: Did I miss Evelyn Macias: so, Evelyn Botello: something? Evelyn Macias: we we we about the the individual roles that we each had as well. Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. I'm afraid I incorporated that when I said who was present, but Evelyn Macias: Okay. Evelyn Botello: yes, we did, and we did a little bit of uh team building of uh of making the pictures, but I didn't think those were appropriate to the minutes necessarily. So um as a group I think we've are they're accepting the minutes. Laura Bellas: Okay, Evelyn Botello: And Laura Bellas: I Evelyn Botello: uh Laura Bellas: the. Evelyn Botello: okay. Laura Bellas: Is that what we're supposed to say? Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Shannon Miller: Yeah, I do. Evelyn Botello: Good. Um, then we'll move to the three presentations. Okay? Laura Bellas: Okay. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Mm we need to move this. Who wants to go f first? That's as far as it goes. Shannon Miller: Uh not really to touch those. Oh it doesn't have any on, does it? That's fine. Laura Bellas: Excellent, thank Evelyn Macias: Oy, Laura Bellas: you. Evelyn Macias: big loop under the table. Evelyn Botello: She said we didn't need to screw it in. Laura Bellas: Okay. Okay, that looks good. Evelyn Botello: It's doing its thing. There we are. Laura Bellas: Alright. Thank you very much. Um. One of the the biggest issues I found about um from last meeting was the fact that we need to sell four million of these um remote controls and I think that this is an opportunity really take Real Reaction in the direction of of similar of handheld tools that have been by of us and to kind of bring the control into the si realm as an accessible um useful electronic device, as opposed to something that is lost in the couch and what have you. So um my main goal here is to re-envision the remote control in in this context and to think about menu functionality and current technology and the fact that it could be interactive with other tools. Um some of the research uh in the market has shown that people really are not happy with remote controls as they are now, and um that means we do need to make some decisions about what what keys or or buttons on the on the remote control to perhaps keep and and what ones to discard. And if we devote some energy into this, I think the um recent productions of Real Reaction, the I go everywhere power and the high definition D_V_D_ players although it makes immediate sense to have our remote control interact with these, I think we can also use this as a platform to make it interact with other tools. And um in fact I think the high definition D_V_D_ players and all of this will come along in the uh will only benefit from the positive feedback from our well designed tool. So again, most uh users really dislike the current look and feel of remote controls. Um fifty percent I think of all these uh numbers the most important is fifty percent of user say they only use ten percent of the buttons. And eighty percent of users, and if we think about this there are a lot of uh television, D_V_D_, stereo remote control users out there, eighty percent would spend more money on a remote control that looks fancy. Evelyn Macias: Could can I ask where these figures come from, is this market Laura Bellas: Um Evelyn Macias: research Laura Bellas: it Evelyn Macias: we've Laura Bellas: was market research and there were a hundred people in the room, so eighty out of a hundred said they would spend more money. Evelyn Botello: Now Evelyn Macias: Mm-hmm. Evelyn Botello: in between, as Evelyn Botello, they sent Laura Bellas an email from the powers that be Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Evelyn Botello: um that teletext is outdated um and the internet is coming in as important, but that they want this remote control to only be for T_V_ um with incorporating the corporate image, colour and slogan. Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Well I think we can I I think we can really focus on this remote and and again bring the Real Reaction um brand in in and and get some positive marketing for our other tools, even if we directly don't um advertise for the I go everywhere line. Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: So an interesting um element was the would you pay more for speech recognition question. So these market research uh Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Laura Bellas: uh questionnaires looked into your your uh concern about technology and s specifically wanted to find out information about speech recognition. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: Now the early adopters, those of us who grew up with technology and uh luck lucky for us have the uh cash to to pay for it, the young age group without the mortgages and responsibilities, ninety one percent of them would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Very interesting, I I leave this up to the group to decide if we wanna use this uh if and you know, the Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: the designers, but ninety one percent, fifteen Evelyn Botello: Is that a Laura Bellas: to Evelyn Botello: large Laura Bellas: twenty Evelyn Botello: enough Laura Bellas: five Evelyn Botello: target market to target it? Laura Bellas: Well, I I I think especially in terms of growth, I think this would be a very smart group to target. I mean s three quarters of the next age group, twenty five to thirty five are interested, and uh with the technologies improving, if we can get these uh Evelyn Botello: In real numbers, does Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Botello: the ninety one percent and the seventy six percent translate to ex Laura Bellas: To Evelyn Botello: in excess of the four million? Laura Bellas: Um yes. Evelyn Botello: Or eight million. Laura Bellas: Yes. But would you pay more and does it work and is it approachable and and did I know that it was Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Laura Bellas: it was an that's a that's a very good question. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Laura Bellas: I Evelyn Macias: Um Laura Bellas: don't know if speech recognition should be um should be included, but Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: I think it's an interesting I think that maybe shows more about uh being open to technology. Shannon Miller: Uh it definitely Evelyn Botello: Mm. Shannon Miller: needs uh Laura Bellas: Shall Shannon Miller: a Laura Bellas: I go Shannon Miller: lot Laura Bellas: back? Shannon Miller: more research on like how much more it would be and Laura Bellas: Yeah, yeah. Shannon Miller: any, you know, existing examples, and what reactions to them have been, Laura Bellas: Yeah. Shannon Miller: and Evelyn Macias: How d I'm Shannon Miller: that sort Evelyn Macias: wondering Shannon Miller: of thing. Evelyn Macias: how how ou how our target price compares with the the typical price of these things. I expect an Industrial Designer should know that, but if we're aiming to to build this thing for twelve Euros fifty that a lot or a little Laura Bellas: Exactly. I mean I I I uh did not receive any information on that, but I think the competition, sussing out what other people are doing and what's in the pipeline is very very important, because um there is a question about do you want an L_C_D_ screen and and that wasn't responded to, but uh some of the larger remotes do have screens where you can navigate, you know, so it turns into something uh perhaps you all have seen uh the Osbournes where Ozzy Osbourne is is attempting to manage his super entertainment system with something that looks like a uh a small tray. You know, it's I a and I Evelyn Macias: Sh Laura Bellas: think, Evelyn Macias: surely Laura Bellas: you know Evelyn Macias: he's in the wrong age group. He must be w one of a s small population. Laura Bellas: No, no, you Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: Kate, you're exactly right there. But I think the key is to get the early adopters, people who are familiar with technology and and uh they'll be Evelyn Botello: But we're not looking at whether they're early adopters Laura Bellas: Uh, Evelyn Botello: on that Laura Bellas: mm. Evelyn Botello: screen, that's looking Laura Bellas: Exactly. Evelyn Botello: at age groups. Laura Bellas: I yes, Evelyn Botello: Leap. Hmm. Laura Bellas: you know, um Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: so Evelyn Botello: Okay, you had the other power channel. Laura Bellas: I think the most important thing is an attractive streamlined remote control and to be extraordinarily reductionist, power, channel, volume and everything else is is uh up to the designers. And this is this is also supported by the market research. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: Thank you. That's my contribution. Evelyn Botello: Alright. And we'll turn to the next presentation. Evelyn Botello: I think she said we don't need to screw it in, just stick it in. And then press, what? F F_N_ and F_ eight. Next to the control button on the bottom, and then F_ eight at the top. Shannon Miller: Yeah, press Evelyn Botello: And Shannon Miller: them. Evelyn Botello: then w be patient. Shannon Miller: Yeah, here we go. Evelyn Botello: Tada. Evelyn Macias: And if you want it to go into slide show mode, it's that little button there. Shannon Miller: Can I not just uh do each one in order? Evelyn Macias: I you can if you like, it it that that just sets it up to do a p a p Evelyn Botello: There Shannon Miller: That? Evelyn Botello: we are. Evelyn Macias: no that one, that one there. Evelyn Botello: Yay. Shannon Miller: That? Evelyn Macias: Left, left a bit, left a bit, Shannon Miller: That? Evelyn Macias: that one, yep. click when you wanna go on. Shannon Miller: Right, technical design. Uh well I think first off, basically I do agree with what Sarah has defined as as uh your personal preferences,yeah. I think we need uh a more streamlined volume with no extraneous functions. So my method was to look at the existing remotes and what functions they have. And what we all need to discuss is whether we want these functions uh pretty much the same as what existing remotes have. If we can build on this with the speech recognition, that's not something I'd thought about at all, but it's also something we can discuss. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Shannon Miller: Um and and I presume we can miss out the functions really to to a video or D_V_D_ remote control, if this is only gonna be a, you Evelyn Botello: T_V_ Shannon Miller: know, satellite, Evelyn Botello: only. Shannon Miller: cable, T_V_ remote control. So these are two models of existing remote controls. Uh the one on the left Evelyn Botello: Ugh. Shannon Miller: seems to be a fairly uh standard universal remote control. It has fast-forward, stop, play, all relating to movies. It also has seems to have channel up and channel down, which is which is more what you'd expect from a, you know, like a Sky or cable remote control Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Shannon Miller: where you've got hundreds of channels instead of a merely terrestrial one. Uh but I think we should be looking more along the lines of the one on the right, which has it also has play, stop and pause and everything, I don't think we need them at all. I think we just need channel selection, volume up, volume down and I think an an enter function where you can access it's not like teletext, but along the same lines, access things on the screen. Uh not related to the internet one that you mentioned, because that'd be far outside our budget and what we want this to do. Evelyn Botello: Mm. And Shannon Miller: So Evelyn Botello: exceed Shannon Miller: it Evelyn Botello: the requirements they're expecting Shannon Miller: really exceed Evelyn Botello: of Shannon Miller: the Evelyn Botello: us. Shannon Miller: requirements, 'cause the requirements really are just want to be able to change channels and functions, which is more a text on the screen thing than uh Evelyn Botello: Okay. Shannon Miller: than actual buttons o I was thinking something some smooth, sleek, little remote control with Evelyn Botello: Alright. Shannon Miller: big user-friendly buttons and uh a menu that you can access. Uh but then I do think we need to discuss the speech um recognition possibility. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Any uh thing else you wanna Shannon Miller: No. Evelyn Botello: add? Okay. Shannon Miller: But we could go back to the pictures of the uh, what're they called? The pictures of the remote controls and possibly discuss what we think about them, Laura Bellas: Or if Shannon Miller: but maybe should hear what Kate has to say Laura Bellas: Yeah. Shannon Miller: first. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Let's hear what Kate has to say. Shannon Miller: Okay Laura Bellas: Maybe Shannon Miller: then. Laura Bellas: afterwards we could do a uh whiteboard with that your the one on the right as a as a basis. Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Laura Bellas: Whiteboard session. Evelyn Botello: I think the white that one on the right is, as well as less cluttered, Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: Definitely less cluttered and I mean but still it's Sorry Evelyn Botello: It's Shannon Miller: I Evelyn Botello: there Shannon Miller: was just Evelyn Botello: but Shannon Miller: I'll Evelyn Botello: it's Shannon Miller: just uh resume something else I was gonna say. The the style of these is terrible. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Shannon Miller: I I I really think we need to uh not only possibly even materials, like the type of plastic used, but everything including size and shape of buttons, positioning of buttons, the actual shape of the hand-held device, colours, Laura Bellas: The ergonomics, Shannon Miller: just Laura Bellas: the way it fits Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Shannon Miller: every Laura Bellas: in your Shannon Miller: e yeah, everything to do with this has to be Laura Bellas: Yeah. Shannon Miller: revolutionised. But So that's that for now. Evelyn Macias: Cheers. Evelyn Macias: Mm, I haven't actually got a display on Evelyn Botello: Okay. Evelyn Macias: my screen. Still, I'll do without that. Okay um, now I wanna bring us down to earth again I'm afraid and talk about the actual practicalities of how the thing needs to work. Um oh and this is the methodology I used in preparing for this meeting. Um basically I've been doing a little bit of web-based research, and if I had a design team, I would've been discussing my ideas with 'em. But the the net result is that I've come up with a first cut for the working design that I'd like to discuss with you. So, let's go back to what the basic function of a remote control is. It's for sending a message, um typically um via infrared. And the the basic components we've got to build in for our twelve Euros fifty are um an energy source, the user interface and which will um in incorporate um an integrated circuit that actually composes the message um based on what the which buttons the user presses, we turn that into a message, um and then we need a sending mechanism to send it to the receiver. Now I would have hoped I think that's my only slide actually, yeah. I would have have hoped to um do you a pretty PowerPoint slide of um my first cut design, but unfortunately the technology defeated Laura Bellas, so if you'll bear with Laura Bellas I'll do it on the whiteboard. So we want an energy source which is there. And we've got to think about what that might be. Uh Evelyn Botello: Hmm-mm. Evelyn Macias: we obviously don't want wires on this thing. Uh typically it would be a battery, but I'm open to suggestions. Um and then we have the the user interface. Oops. And the main components in there are the Evelyn Macias: the th the chip that actually has the intelligence of the machine that translates button presses into a message, which it then transfers to some sending mechanism, which encodes it Evelyn Macias: and sends the message to the receiver. So those are the basic things that we've got to get in for our twelve Euros fifty. Thank you. Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Okay. Right. But those things as long as we can get those components, the block, that that rectangle for the user interface, is where the user comes in of what what does it look like? What do the buttons look like? Uh what does it feel like? That's where the user interface is really coming into its own. Evelyn Macias: Mm-hmm. Evelyn Botello: The technical end is what's actually gonna be in there, but also it has to be easy enough to change or repair if something goes wrong. For example the battery energy source or um what if the chip, for whatever reason, breaks down after a certain amount of time, do you just replace it? Um is there any um because it may be in the same area with several other user interfaces, like for D_V_D_s, movies, whatever. Evelyn Botello: frequency or something? Evelyn Macias: Well I may be wrong here, but I'd been thinking of this device as being a a cheap mass-produced device. We're trying to sell four million of 'em, Evelyn Botello: Mm. Evelyn Macias: um that's that's, you know, that's almost one in every tenth household or whatever it is. Um and I hadn't thought of it as being a reparable thing, you just if it goes Evelyn Botello: Okay. Evelyn Macias: wrong you chuck it out, and that's why I'm a bit concerned. I like the idea of speech recognition, that's a great idea, but I'm not convinced we can put it into this box for the price that we need gonna need to hit. Laura Bellas: Do Shannon Miller: Whoop. Laura Bellas: we have Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: um ki some idea of how much it would cost to create a device that has these basic elements? Because then Shannon Miller: Isn't that your job? Laura Bellas: No, Evelyn Botello: Oh. Laura Bellas: the chip composer Shannon Miller: Oh right. Laura Bellas: marketing. Oh no, the chip composer sender. Evelyn Botello: Mm. Evelyn Macias: Um, Laura Bellas: I I don't believe I know, um. Evelyn Macias: I'm I'm Evelyn Botello: What Evelyn Macias: I'm Evelyn Botello: they cost. Evelyn Macias: hoping that my personal coach is gonna give Laura Bellas some advice on that, if you're Laura Bellas: Okay. Evelyn Macias: asking Laura Bellas, but Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: Be because then we would ha ha figure out how much we had to play with Shannon Miller: Yeah. Laura Bellas: in terms Evelyn Macias: Yeah. Laura Bellas: of Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: user interface and this look and feel idea. Shannon Miller: It does it does seem as if we're just to do something really simple and mass-produced, Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: the which is pretty much the same as these existing models, just maybe Laura Bellas: Inspired? Shannon Miller: a little bit more inspired, Laura Bellas: Mm. Shannon Miller: but basically just the same. Although what what uh suddenly came into my head is, you know how they always take two A_A_ batteries which which is really not very efficient at all. Could it be possible to have uh, you know, like a rechargeable internal battery, like, Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: well, like an M_P_ three player does? With that you could jus or a mobile phone or whatever. Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: You could you know, you just plug into a power source for a couple of hours, and then it's recharged for ages and ages and ages, and you don't have to worry with replacing A_A_ batteries, Laura Bellas: Well that has Shannon Miller: which Laura Bellas: another Shannon Miller: are Laura Bellas: element, which is if every time you're done using the remote you put it on a charger, then Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: you then it has Shannon Miller: You'd Laura Bellas: a place. Shannon Miller: never need uh batteries would y uh yeah. Laura Bellas: Yeah, but it also has a place, so Shannon Miller: And it's not stuck down the back of Laura Bellas: exactly. Shannon Miller: the sofa. Evelyn Botello: Mm. Shannon Miller: But then again I d I don't know if this is within our price range or not. Laura Bellas: That's a really good idea. Evelyn Macias: Well I uh think that's a very interesting idea, but um I'm not a very good industrial designer and I don't know much about what these things cost. I'll do some research for the next meeting. Laura Bellas: Well Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: it's better than my idea about solar, probably. Evelyn Botello: Uh yeah. Evelyn Macias: Well solar may not be so good when you're watching T_V_ Laura Bellas: Yeah, Evelyn Macias: in the night, Laura Bellas: yeah. Evelyn Macias: but Evelyn Botello: Mm. Shannon Miller: Well Laura Bellas: Depen Shannon Miller: it is just so Evelyn Botello: It Shannon Miller: annoying Evelyn Botello: would have to sor Shannon Miller: how Evelyn Botello: store up the energy Laura Bellas: Mm. Yeah. Evelyn Macias: Yeah, I guess. Evelyn Botello: and then use it. Solar can do Evelyn Macias: We may Evelyn Botello: that. Evelyn Macias: be talking quite heavy then. Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Botello: M yeah, that would be too heavy and it'd cost too much. Evelyn Macias: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: No, but just a rechargeable internal battery would probably I mean it might cost more to at first to develop and to Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm Shannon Miller: install, but for long-term use it'll be so much more convenient and economic than fiddling around trying to replace chunky A_A_ batteries and Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Shannon Miller: not having any in your kitchen drawer and Evelyn Macias: So Shannon Miller: you Evelyn Macias: do you Shannon Miller: know Evelyn Macias: think Shannon Miller: f Evelyn Macias: we might make that a selling point if it was something that we found we could afford to develop? Laura Bellas: Definitely, 'cause I'm thinking Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: in terms of um uh the loss and breakage of um remotes, how much of that is is to do with it not really having a uh a home, a um Shannon Miller: Mm. Laura Bellas: a nest, Evelyn Botello: Mm. Shannon Miller: Sort Laura Bellas: a Shannon Miller: of have Laura Bellas: place Shannon Miller: its little Laura Bellas: to live, Shannon Miller: dock that you Laura Bellas: exactly. Shannon Miller: could put Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Shannon Miller: it Laura Bellas: So Shannon Miller: in. Laura Bellas: if you can dock it, um you know, you could s argue Evelyn Botello: And Laura Bellas: that Evelyn Botello: the dock Laura Bellas: this Evelyn Botello: could Laura Bellas: is Evelyn Botello: look very fancy Laura Bellas: Exactly. Evelyn Botello: and that could be your inspiration Shannon Miller: Still Evelyn Botello: of having Shannon Miller: I Evelyn Botello: it Shannon Miller: don't Evelyn Botello: looking Shannon Miller: know if Evelyn Botello: decent. Shannon Miller: it's quite within our price range. Laura Bellas: Mm. Evelyn Botello: Hmm. Laura Bellas: 'Cause you are talking about another component, like another piece of Shannon Miller: Yeah. Laura Bellas: hardware. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Laura Bellas: Mm. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Are we agreed as to what our target group is though? Pretty much, so Laura Bellas: Well Evelyn Botello: that Laura Bellas: I Evelyn Botello: we'd be Laura Bellas: I Evelyn Botello: looking Laura Bellas: brought up Evelyn Botello: for the Laura Bellas: some Evelyn Botello: younger end. Laura Bellas: exactly, but I think you raised some good questions about are there enough of these people out there, or are they Evelyn Macias: Mm. Laura Bellas: making purchasing decisions? You know, Evelyn Macias: Yeah, Laura Bellas: these Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: are Evelyn Macias: I was Laura Bellas: the Evelyn Macias: wondering that, because I ag I agree that there there're people with uh how can I put it, more money than sense and who Laura Bellas: Yeah, Evelyn Macias: are liable Evelyn Botello: I Evelyn Macias: to Laura Bellas: exactly. Evelyn Macias: buy something Evelyn Botello: I Evelyn Macias: new, Evelyn Botello: s usually Evelyn Macias: but Evelyn Botello: put more money than brains. Laura Bellas: Oh oh oh I'll make a note of that, Kate. Good, good Evelyn Macias: Bu Laura Bellas: comment. Evelyn Macias: but what I was gonna say was, although they they may be buying um, you know, personal music devices and all that, are they necessarily buying T_V_ remote controls? Because they probably live in a household that has a T_V_ if they're Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Macias: at the lower end of the age range, I don't Shannon Miller: Yeah. Evelyn Macias: know. Laura Bellas: It might be good to know um uh who, you know, who's actually buying televisions and are we in a uh uh s region where people have more than one television in Evelyn Macias: Mm. Laura Bellas: a home? Evelyn Macias: I think we've got a big hill to climb here, haven't we? Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Botello: Yeah. Or do we s make sure that it goes to the man through the manufacturer? We sell to the manufacturer Evelyn Macias: Right, Evelyn Botello: as Evelyn Macias: good point. Evelyn Botello: the Evelyn Macias: Yeah, yeah Evelyn Botello: remote Evelyn Macias: okay, Laura Bellas: Yeah. Shannon Miller: Yeah. Evelyn Macias: yeah. Evelyn Botello: that goes with it. Evelyn Macias: Yeah. Laura Bellas: Yeah. Evelyn Macias: Yeah, good point. Evelyn Botello: What would be a more efficient way of doing it? Laura Bellas: Yeah, and and some of our D_V_D_ players incidentally have them, because we have the relationship with our own department, but moreover we need to Evelyn Botello: Mm-hmm. Laura Bellas: to go for the the manufacturers. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Right. Shannon Miller: We're not gonna get any resolutions by the end of the day, are we? Evelyn Botello: Probably Laura Bellas: Mm. Evelyn Botello: not. Um the other thing that we're supposed to do is make decision on our functions. Our functions, we've so far decided, I think, that power, channel, volume make it attractive. Um it has to have an enter key and of course the number keys. It has to have big user-friendly buttons and sh n definitely we wanna be inspired that the current styles are just plain awful. Shannon Miller: Yeah. Laura Bellas: Do we need um let Laura Bellas Evelyn Botello: Is that agreeable Laura Bellas: Br Evelyn Botello: to everyone? Laura Bellas: actually, Evelyn Macias: Mm-hmm. Laura Bellas: um the enter key I have a chart here that I didn't include. Evelyn Botello: Mm-hmm. Laura Bellas: Um Evelyn Macias: Do you want the gizmo? Laura Bellas: yeah, which might Evelyn Botello: Throw some light on Laura Bellas: Th Evelyn Botello: that. Laura Bellas: yeah, th those are felt like had a lot of charts. Evelyn Botello: Um actually we're, you know, we are almost a half hour out of the forty minutes, so we have to get close to Laura Bellas: Okay, Evelyn Botello: finishing. Laura Bellas: I I my only comment is I think maybe um we could somehow include an enter key in like a power key if power Evelyn Botello: Ah. Laura Bellas: power was enter Evelyn Botello: Mm-hmm. Laura Bellas: and pow that was my only just Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: really in terms of streamlining. Um Evelyn Botello: Enter, power as a s oh um a sum simultaneous key. Laura Bellas: Exactly. Again, you know, Evelyn Botello: Is Laura Bellas: thinking Evelyn Botello: that okay Laura Bellas: of menus Evelyn Botello: with you? Laura Bellas: or Shannon Miller: Sorry, I was miles Evelyn Botello: Would that Evelyn Macias: H Shannon Miller: away. Evelyn Macias: how does Shannon Miller: I Evelyn Macias: that Shannon Miller: was Evelyn Macias: work? Shannon Miller: re I was Evelyn Macias: How Shannon Miller: reading the chart to be honest. Evelyn Botello: uh-huh. Evelyn Macias: so so how does that work, how do you avoid switching the thing off when you actually wanna press enter? Laura Bellas: Um well if you're pressing enter, the the thing would already be on, and so maybe um when you press power, initially it turns it on, press power again and use that as an enter um so you Evelyn Botello: Then Laura Bellas: press Evelyn Botello: you'd have to Laura Bellas: power Evelyn Botello: have an off te Laura Bellas: after Evelyn Botello: off key. Laura Bellas: you've um well I was thinking maybe you to turn it off you'd have to press power twice Evelyn Macias: Okay, Laura Bellas: in succession, Evelyn Macias: yep, mm-hmm. Laura Bellas: and maybe Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: power follows something like a channel up channel down power, and then that would make that choice. Evelyn Macias: It's not getting a bit complicated? Could Laura Bellas: Well Evelyn Macias: granny do this, or are we just not aiming at granny? Laura Bellas: Or y yeah. Or something that has a a turning dial, where at the far end is Shannon Miller: Who's got Laura Bellas: on Shannon Miller: an iPod Laura Bellas: or off. Shannon Miller: then? Laura Bellas: Yeah, I don't Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: um I wish. Anyway, uh that was the only comment about um Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: some of the the decisions people have made, what's most important. It's definitely Evelyn Botello: Mm. Laura Bellas: channel, volume, power. Shannon Miller: Yeah, things like screen settings and audio settings, I would generally do them on the actual television Laura Bellas: Exactly. Shannon Miller: itself, like here you have a you know, a little flap th with a little control panel on Laura Bellas: Exactly. Shannon Miller: the actual box itself. I I wouldn't know how to do it using a remote control, Laura Bellas: Yeah. Shannon Miller: so um I would say that they are definitely less relevant. Laura Bellas: Okay, Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: well. Thanks for looking at that. Evelyn Botello: So I guess easy to use is the other thing Laura Bellas: Mm-hmm. Evelyn Botello: that we want 'em to be able to do. Laura Bellas: We don't wanna Evelyn Botello: As Laura Bellas: outsmart Evelyn Botello: you said, you know, don't make it too hard for the granny. I just joined that set last Laura Bellas: Hmm. Evelyn Botello: week. Um Laura Bellas: Congratulations. Evelyn Macias: Mm. Evelyn Botello: first grandchild arrived. Evelyn Macias: Uh. Evelyn Botello: Um so are we agreed then of those things? And Laura Bellas: D Evelyn Botello: let's go back to agenda and hook Laura Bellas up. Mm. This oughta be fun. It probably won't go the first time, it'll probably be like a g mess. Come on. Uh it lost it off here. Laura Bellas: Oh you're fine. Evelyn Botello: Uh Laura Bellas: It's fine. Evelyn Botello: No, it was up there, but I couldn't see it down here. Evelyn Botello: Mm. This time it should be both. There we go. Evelyn Macias: How do you do that? How do you make it do both? Evelyn Botello: Um you have to keep doing the financi the the F_N_ and F_ eight to Evelyn Macias: Ah okay, Evelyn Botello: five Evelyn Macias: it Evelyn Botello: minutes Evelyn Macias: toggles Evelyn Botello: to Evelyn Macias: through, Evelyn Botello: finish, thank Evelyn Macias: yeah. Evelyn Botello: you a lot for telling Laura Bellas. Laura Bellas: I think Evelyn Botello: Um Laura Bellas: you have to cycle through. Evelyn Botello: right, Evelyn Macias: Yeah. Evelyn Botello: we're ready to close. Um will be completed q questionnaire, um then we'll have some time for individual work to continue our research um and I'll put some minutes of this meeting together. Um your individual assignments are for um Kate to do the components, for you, Steph, to do the user interface and for you the trend-watching. Um and each of us will get help from our coach. Are we agreed to get ourselves together and then have lunch? Shannon Miller: Yes. Evelyn Botello: Okay. Evelyn Macias: Sounds good. Evelyn Botello: Then that's the end of this meeting. And I hope that's good enough for her to tell her that's the end. Okay? Evelyn Macias: Okay. Shannon Miller: We didn't come to any sort of decision on the functions though. Evelyn Botello: Well I think I went over the functions and wrote them down Shannon Miller: Alright, Evelyn Botello: and Shannon Miller: well Evelyn Botello: marked Shannon Miller: that's fine Evelyn Botello: them. Shannon Miller: then. Evelyn Botello: Um that's what I went over Laura Bellas: Okay. Evelyn Botello: and nobody was objecting to them. Laura Bellas: Um and you'd mentioned I I was just gonna say, could you reiterate the new project requirements, because Evelyn Botello: Okay. Laura Bellas: it they were it has to be for a T_V_, just to keep myself Evelyn Botello: Um the teletext is outdated, Evelyn Macias: So we're still in meeting, aren't we? Laura Bellas: Yeah, Evelyn Botello: the Laura Bellas: I think Evelyn Botello: internet Laura Bellas: I've Evelyn Botello: is important, it's only to be for a T_V_ and it must include the corporate image, colour and slogan Laura Bellas: Okay. Evelyn Botello: um which I think is more in the user Shannon Miller: Mm. Evelyn Botello: uh range, with Steph. Shannon Miller: Sorry, what what actually are these is that the yellow and black? Evelyn Botello: It doesn't tell Laura Bellas. Laura Bellas: Mm. Shannon Miller: From their I'll just use it from their website. Evelyn Botello: Mm-hmm. Okay? Shannon Miller: Okay. Evelyn Macias: Okay. Laura Bellas: Right. Thank you.	Evelyn Botello opened the meeting and went over the minutes of the previous meeting. Laura Bellas discussed user preferences in terms of remote controls and the increasing interest among younger consumers in speech recognition. Laura Bellas also discussed a user target group for the remote and addressed the issue of whether the target group would result in sufficient sales of the remote. Shannon Miller presented two existing remote controls on the market, which the team later evaluated, and discussed what features in terms of appearance and functionality the remote the team is creating should include. Evelyn Macias discussed the interior workings of a remote and addressed the issue of what happens when remotes no longer operate. The team also discussed options for energy sources, such as solar power and rechargeable internal batteries. Th team then discussed their user target group, marketing ideas such as selling the remote to television manufacturers, and what functions the remote would feature.	4	amisum	train
Isabel Dawson: Okay uh Agnes, you Clara Lajoie: Yep. Isabel Dawson: can help Lois Mcalpine for the Clara Lajoie: Sure. Isabel Dawson: when okay. Okay, welcome back. I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time. How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting. Okay, and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you. And it's in the, I think uh, in the sharing folder. And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects. So can you go to the next slide? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening. Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management, what I'm going to do, and uh, of course, I'm doing the project management and secretary both, okay, to take the minutes of the meeting. And there are three presentations. One is uh new project requirements. And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions. And uh finally we are closing. Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes, so you have to be very quick. And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal, okay, and I have to discuss a few points on this. Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project. Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded, okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology. So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design. And the second one is about uh the remote control. Should be used only for the T_V_. That's what our uh management says. And the third point, it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image, okay, with this new project or new product. Okay. So I will invite uh Agnes, can you go to the third slide? Clara Lajoie: No, this is the third. Isabel Dawson: Okay, So, I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design. Cindy Smith: 'Kay, do you wanna Clara Lajoie: Sure. Cindy Smith: open the Clara Lajoie: Um. You're participant s Cindy Smith: I'm number. Clara Lajoie: Two? Cindy Smith: That's it. Clara Lajoie: Do you want the mouse, or do you want Lois Mcalpine to Cindy Smith: I'll do the notes. Yeah, thanks. So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements, and from my experience, I wanna uh, and from research I did, uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button, you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point, you know. Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it. Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them. So uh, I also, since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product, thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those, and, as I said in the first meeting, um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction, especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance, and it is reliable, and so forth. I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth, so, I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic, which I kinda like the idea, 'cause it made Lois Mcalpine think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off, that might be interesting. And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off, and the sound on and off, and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today, uh Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Cindy Smith: fifty years later. And uh it was really a pioneering innovation, but it was uh sensitive to the sun, so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems. So, uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r Lois Mcalpine: Fantastic. Cindy Smith: um really uh something to keep in mind. It'd be easy to find. And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off, you could use it for something else. And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer, I didn't really know what to do with this slide. But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this, and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board. I don't know why um we were asked to do this. So, uh personal preferences, um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here, and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference. So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it. I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme, be very colourful, or you could make it clear, and um kind of blend in with things, so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home. Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof, because uh sometimes they fall into cups and, you know, it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that. Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not, because half the time, I keep pushing on the remote control, and I don't know if it's actually understood my message, so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue. And uh, course I never wanna replace the battery. So, that's those are my f preferences, and that's my presentation. Isabel Dawson: Yeah, let Lois Mcalpine uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility, other feature, like uh unbreakable. Cindy Smith: Yes. Isabel Dawson: Okay, because uh especially today, you know, you have the family and the kids, okay, and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes Cindy Smith: Run over Isabel Dawson: and. Cindy Smith: it with a car. Isabel Dawson: Yes. Okay, so if you can add the feature, okay, for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay, with unbreakable, okay, I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product, Cindy Smith: Good Isabel Dawson: if I'm Cindy Smith: idea. Isabel Dawson: not wrong. Cindy Smith: Good idea, I'll I'll uh um Isabel Dawson: Maybe you can uh add it in that. Cindy Smith: Yes, very good. Isabel Dawson: Okay, uh thank you Christine, and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications, or any discussion on the functional design? Clara Lajoie: Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials? 'Cause, for example, in the unbreakable thing, doing something plastic would be harder, whereas Cindy Smith: Hmm. Clara Lajoie: having something like, I dunno, steel or titanium Cindy Smith: Titanium. Clara Lajoie: isn't really Cindy Smith: Titanium Lois Mcalpine: Titanium. Cindy Smith: would be Clara Lajoie: economically viable. Cindy Smith: be heavy, too, wouldn't Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: it? No, I haven't really um I wanted feedback, I think we need to rate rank these, Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: but we'll see what your uh personal Clara Lajoie: Sure, Cindy Smith: preferences Clara Lajoie: yeah. Cindy Smith: are and your Clara Lajoie: No, I Cindy Smith: thoughts. Clara Lajoie: just that you had any sort of Cindy Smith: I like titanium. It's light. Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Lois Mcalpine: Expensive. Cindy Smith: Uh yeah Clara Lajoie: The Cindy Smith: but Clara Lajoie: marketing comes Cindy Smith: uh who Clara Lajoie: out. Cindy Smith: who said who said Isabel Dawson: Yes. Cindy Smith: we were, you know, nobody told Lois Mcalpine how mu what our financial objective is, so um Isabel Dawson: Yeah Cindy Smith: It'd Isabel Dawson: so Cindy Smith: be hard to inflate something ou made out Isabel Dawson: Yeah Cindy Smith: of titanium Isabel Dawson: the the Cindy Smith: though. Isabel Dawson: I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing. Uh let Lois Mcalpine go quickly, maybe if I can go back. I know the project plan and the budget. So I can close this, not sure. Was in uh Isabel Dawson: S This. Isabel Dawson: So let Lois Mcalpine see where is this file. Clara Lajoie: That's Christine's. Isabel Dawson: This is Christine. Clara Lajoie: And that's mine, Isabel Dawson: That's Clara Lajoie: I think. Isabel Dawson: yours, okay. Saving. Clara Lajoie: In modified. Lois Mcalpine: I don't know, I think verbally Isabel Dawson: Okay, Lois Mcalpine: we Isabel Dawson: uh Lois Mcalpine: can Isabel Dawson: I will I Lois Mcalpine: we Isabel Dawson: will Lois Mcalpine: can Isabel Dawson: send Lois Mcalpine: pretty Isabel Dawson: you Lois Mcalpine: much Isabel Dawson: a mail, Lois Mcalpine: sell. Isabel Dawson: okay? The project may be the the project aim, okay. At the end of the day, the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro. Okay, and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side. Okay, that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market. Okay. Then uh you can come back with your feedback. And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion. This remote control, okay, it can be for like universal, to use for any T_V_. Okay, and it will be slim, okay, and uh Cindy Smith: Not fat? Isabel Dawson: Not fat. Cindy Smith: Not fat, huh. Isabel Dawson: Okay. Cindy Smith: Might be hard to find, though. Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: Hmm. Isabel Dawson: But let's try it, okay, Cindy Smith: Oh, Isabel Dawson: with Cindy Smith: okay. Isabel Dawson: the different uh the designs, okay, the functional designs. Okay? So any other questions? Lois Mcalpine: Uh from her side, I don't think uh there's too many more questions. Isabel Dawson: Okay. Lois Mcalpine: If you can Isabel Dawson: Thank Lois Mcalpine: come Isabel Dawson: you Lois Mcalpine: to Isabel Dawson: Christine Lois Mcalpine: the Isabel Dawson: for uh time being, so then uh Ed, so Lois Mcalpine: Okay, Isabel Dawson: can you Lois Mcalpine: from Isabel Dawson: tell Lois Mcalpine: the Isabel Dawson: about Lois Mcalpine: marketing yeah, from the marketing side, just to to give an idea what the management is looking for, I was looking for a a remote control to Clara Lajoie: S Lois Mcalpine: have a Clara Lajoie: 'scuse Lois Mcalpine: s Clara Lajoie: Lois Mcalpine for one sec. Lois Mcalpine: I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro with, a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro. For what uh I think from what we're trying to find, we're tr we're looking for, I don't think that price is exactly in the market. Okay? Isabel Dawson: Mm-hmm. Lois Mcalpine: I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys, uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five, eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy. Twenty-five Euros, uh that's that's a preson reasonable price. That's a market price right now. Now if we're gonna take a risk, Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: and push this up a bit, make it more expensive, but give them added things that they don't have now, Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: then it w it could possibly sell. Obviously the risk is there. Too expensive, they're not gonna buy. But, I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group, which always spends more money on trendy new things, speech recognition is requested. And we're talking between Cindy Smith: Speech recognition?. Lois Mcalpine: seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote. Isabel Dawson: Mm-hmm. Lois Mcalpine: Obviously, we can't make a remote into a computer, but maybe simple commands. I dunno, louder, softer, on, off. That might be a possibility, even though it costs more, to be the first on the market to produce this. Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use. So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly. Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time. So maybe one word speech recognition commands, say remote, and there's a beep beep beep, and they can find it through, you know, ten tons of newspapers, magazines, whatever you have at home. But, in the cost that uh the management is looking for, that's not gonna be possible. But if it's trendy, if it's fancy, it's got some colour to it, if it's very easy easy to use, if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control, like I said, louder, softer, change channel, on, off, remote, it goes beep beep, I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on. So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea, with the ideas of the industrial uh design. But, price obviously we have to talk about. Isabel Dawson: Yep. So what do you think about uh the design? Do you think you can make it or uh Cindy Smith: D uh I'm sorry? Isabel Dawson: What do you think about uh the design, uh what he was talking about Lois Mcalpine: Speech recognition. Isabel Dawson: of the speech recognition? Cindy Smith: Well, uh training is always an issue with uh commands. Isabel Dawson: Mm-hmm. Cindy Smith: So um might uh we can to spend some time in the training process, uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost. Not sure how. But um anyway, um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life. And um so, maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it. So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh, you know, gets Clara Lajoie: Hmm. Cindy Smith: uh, from the light, um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things. Clara Lajoie: It seems also like with the speech recognition, yeah, it's a great feature, but if you're watching T_V_, there's a lot of ambient sound, and it's words. It's not just, you know, noises like something hitting. It's actual speech, so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech, and the the user's speech. Otherwise, you can say remote. Cindy Smith: Off. Clara Lajoie: But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing, all of a sudden, you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies, because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_. So, I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems, then yeah, it'd be a really good Lois Mcalpine: Mm. Clara Lajoie: marketing gimmick. But, I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation. Cindy Smith: Very good point. Lois Mcalpine: Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Lois Mcalpine: if it's a one-word recognition, 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Lois Mcalpine: seen in the States, a friend of mine says call Mom, and it calls up Mom. Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Lois Mcalpine: 'Kay the radio can be on and everything. Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: Because I think s with speech recognition, if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Lois Mcalpine: it has to hear. I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television. If somebody's speaking on the se the television, they're not gonna stop and say remote, okay. Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Lois Mcalpine: So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word Clara Lajoie: Oh yeah. Yeah. Lois Mcalpine: Like Clara Lajoie: No, I think Lois Mcalpine: the t Clara Lajoie: it's Lois Mcalpine: like Clara Lajoie: a great Lois Mcalpine: the telephone. Clara Lajoie: idea if we can Lois Mcalpine: No because Clara Lajoie: design Lois Mcalpine: I Clara Lajoie: it Lois Mcalpine: this Clara Lajoie: to Lois Mcalpine: is this Clara Lajoie: to Lois Mcalpine: is Clara Lajoie: suit Lois Mcalpine: years Clara Lajoie: those Lois Mcalpine: ago Clara Lajoie: requirements. Lois Mcalpine: in the United States where we're driving down and he said call home, and the telephone called immediately Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Lois Mcalpine: so well, that's kinda cute. Isabel Dawson: Well, what I can uh suggest to you, Christine, okay, uh if you need some uh the technical feedback, or some training, okay, about uh this facility, especially for the speech recognition, I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_, okay, because they're already in this uh speech recognition part, okay. And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them, some kind of a technical tie-up. Okay, and uh if okay, and uh you can uh let Lois Mcalpine know, okay, so what kind of uh the details you require okay, to add this feature in this project. I don't think it's uh the difficult. And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop, apart from uh what today. Cindy Smith: Okay, we'll find that out. Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: From from your side uh, you're gonna have to go back the management and s Isabel Dawson: Yes. Lois Mcalpine: be more s precise. What do they Isabel Dawson: Yes. Lois Mcalpine: want? Uh, a risk, take a risk on the market? Something that's gonna cost more, but could very easily s Isabel Dawson: Yes. Lois Mcalpine: make a boom in the market? Isabel Dawson: Yep. Lois Mcalpine: Because it has to be something totally different, has to be total totally new. Something that nobody has right now. Isabel Dawson: Yeah Lois Mcalpine: And it's Isabel Dawson: but Lois Mcalpine: gonna cost. Isabel Dawson: but end of the day, you're the sales guy, so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection, okay. It's Lois Mcalpine: Mm-hmm. Isabel Dawson: uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to Lois Mcalpine: Sure. Isabel Dawson: benefit, Lois Mcalpine: Sure. Isabel Dawson: okay. And uh, so I don't mind to convince, okay, the management to spend some more money on the project, okay, if you can make out of Lois Mcalpine: Obviously. Isabel Dawson: the money from this Lois Mcalpine: If the Isabel Dawson: project. Lois Mcalpine: bottom line is positive. Isabel Dawson: Yes, okay I don't mind to convince the the management, Lois Mcalpine: Mm. Isabel Dawson: okay. The management says, okay, so they they don't want certain facilities, which it's already worked, okay, they want something uh new, okay. I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree, I don't think they'll say no for that, okay. And uh I hope I can convince the management on that, okay. So if you have any uh new ideas, okay, for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell Lois Mcalpine if you need any uh s special, okay, coordination, okay, between any uh technical companies, which you can uh hide their technology backup, okay, for your uh functional design or technical design, okay, then I am ready to do that. And uh what's your comments about uh Clara Lajoie: Um well, I mean, maybe if I go through my presentation, you can sort of see Lois Mcalpine: Mm. Clara Lajoie: what the user perspective is, and how it ties into the other two comments. Isabel Dawson: Yeah, so you are finish, Ed, uh Lois Mcalpine: Yes. Isabel Dawson: so I can Lois Mcalpine: Mm. Isabel Dawson: uh Okay, I'll uh hand over to Agnes. Just gonna close this. T Uh where are you, here? Clara Lajoie: Mm participant three. Isabel Dawson: Participant three. Clara Lajoie: Nope, here Isabel Dawson: Okay, so I'll yep. Isabel Dawson: Okay. Clara Lajoie: Good. Thanks. Isabel Dawson: Is it okay? Alri Clara Lajoie: Yeah, and that's fine. Okay. So, basically, the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products. So, in our case, existing remote controls. And then, what the good ideas are, and what the bad ideas are, and why they're bad and good, which isn't always as obvious. We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad, but when you look, technically, at how it works, sometimes that's not the case. Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep, 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work. Um and then what the remote control should look like, obviously, once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are. So, in terms of the functionalities that we need, you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off. You need to change channels, both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing. You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever. So, the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls, in general. The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do. Um often, you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done, um which you don't necessarily always remember, especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often. And that the buttons are too small. So, here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side, you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons. The buttons, in a lot of cases, are tiny. Um they're hard to see, and okay, they're labelled, but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much. Whereas, on the other side, you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed. And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it. So, I would be inclined to go sort of towards this, in terms of design, rather than this. And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons, then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons. So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit, or to a minimum, sorry, make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed, so like the on button being really obvious one, the channel changing and the volume, and to keep the design basically sleek Isabel Dawson: Click Clara Lajoie: and simple. Isabel Dawson: mm. Clara Lajoie: Which, I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably. Um so, that's pretty much it, an I don't know if you guys have any questions or Cindy Smith: Oh, it's um, seems very understandable. Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction, Clara Lajoie: Yep. Cindy Smith: and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it. Clara Lajoie: Yes, that's true. Cindy Smith: So uh, Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: you know, but that's okay. That's why we're all here at the table, so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: w we it's complementary. I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh, when you hold it, is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Cindy Smith: and Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about, th Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: th the look and the feel, and uh, Clara Lajoie: Oh, Cindy Smith: you're First. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I don't have any questions. Sounds good. Isabel Dawson: So for anybody need uh any help, for time being, on this Clara Lajoie: Oh Isabel Dawson: uh subjects, okay, so please come back to Lois Mcalpine, and uh Christine, maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim, okay, and to add some features, like we are talking about, the speech recognition and all. Clara Lajoie: Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to Isabel Dawson: Yeah. Clara Lajoie: include, 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table, but do we actually want to incorporate all of them, or have we missed Lois Mcalpine: Hmm. Clara Lajoie: anything? Cindy Smith: Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide, maybe that would provide some guidance? Clara Lajoie: Sure. Cindy Smith: Doesn't really tell us. Isabel Dawson: So not really this Lois Mcalpine: Individual Isabel Dawson: one Lois Mcalpine: actions. Isabel Dawson: we are talk Cindy Smith: Well it Isabel Dawson: ab Cindy Smith: says individual actions, it says Isabel Dawson: Yep. Cindy Smith: user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept, supposed to work on the Clara Lajoie: Mm-hmm. Cindy Smith: user interface concept, and you're supposed to keep watching the trends. Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach. I Clara Lajoie: I thought Cindy Smith: think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process, that's my suggestion. Isabel Dawson: Okay, that will be great. And uh I'll send you the the minutes Cindy Smith: You can Isabel Dawson: of Cindy Smith: object Isabel Dawson: meet Cindy Smith: if you want to Clara Lajoie: No, I I'm just thinking in terms of time, like Lois Mcalpine: She's Clara Lajoie: if Lois Mcalpine: objecting. Isabel Dawson: Yeah. Clara Lajoie: Yes, now I'm objecting. No, I mean, I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away? I mean, it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features, um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use, maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want, but Lois Mcalpine: Oh th Cindy Smith: I think we Clara Lajoie: guess Cindy Smith: should take Lois Mcalpine: we s Cindy Smith: that as Lois Mcalpine: we Cindy Smith: an Lois Mcalpine: still Cindy Smith: action Lois Mcalpine: have Cindy Smith: item for after the meeting, 'cause w Lois Mcalpine: Yeah. Cindy Smith: our meeting time has run Lois Mcalpine: Right. Cindy Smith: out. Somebody Clara Lajoie: Sure. Cindy Smith: else has go to use this room, and, Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: you know, we can't hang out here and Clara Lajoie: Yeah. Cindy Smith: talk Clara Lajoie: Sure. Cindy Smith: about this, so Isabel Dawson: Okay, what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break, okay, then uh we can discuss furthermore, okay, with our areas, and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting. So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting, and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information. Okay? Clara Lajoie: Okay. Isabel Dawson: So let's go for lunch then. Cindy Smith: Thank Lois Mcalpine: Agreed. Cindy Smith: you very Isabel Dawson: Thank Cindy Smith: much. Isabel Dawson: you.	Isabel Dawson gave new requirements for the product: the remote will not include a teletext function, will only be used for television, and must show the corporate image. Cindy Smith presented possible components to consider. The group then discussed hard materials to include in the design. Lois Mcalpine presented an initial sales plan and showed that there is a demand for remotes featuring voice recognition and other capabilities; the group discussed how it could be integrated into the functional design. Isabel Dawson offered to help Cindy Smith find companies to provide help in integrating this component. The designers expressed that they needed more information from the board on their expectations for the product. Clara Lajoie gave a presentation on product design from the user's perspective and emphasized simplicity in design. She also suggested that the group make a decision on which features to include in the final product design, but the group decided to postpone it. The designers were given their assignments: Lois Mcalpine will present the marketing concept; Clara Lajoie, the user interface concept; Cindy Smith, the components concept.	4	amisum	train
Pamela Quintana: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Maxie Lopez: We have a I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah, I've got Pamela Quintana: I Andrea Hallmark: one Pamela Quintana: see, Andrea Hallmark: too. Pamela Quintana: right. That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um W I I got um or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Maxie Lopez: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: and in Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. So in Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm Pamela Quintana: fact it actually f we won't be forestalled in a sense. Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Maxie Lopez: Uh we didn't, no. Maris Garcia: No. Pamela Quintana: Right Maxie Lopez: I d I didn't Pamela Quintana: and Maxie Lopez: personally. Pamela Quintana: the corporate Andrea Hallmark: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: image was the uh final thing. So I I got that in email form. Um. Right okay. So I guess if we go ahead with the uh with the three presentations. So we'll start with yourself Maxie Lopez: Okay Pamela Quintana: on Maxie Lopez: that's Pamela Quintana: the Maxie Lopez: fine. Pamela Quintana: basis that uh Maxie Lopez: I'll just um I'll grab the wire out the back of this one. Pamela Quintana: Sorry, yep. Pamela Quintana: Oh. Maris Garcia: What is it Maxie Lopez: I'm not quite Maris Garcia: I think Maxie Lopez: sure Maris Garcia: you've got Maxie Lopez: how Maris Garcia: to do Maxie Lopez: it Maris Garcia: um control F_ eight. Maxie Lopez: Control Doesn't seem to be quite working at the moment. Maris Garcia: Shift F_ eight. Maxie Lopez: Alt function F_ eight. Again not doing anything. Andrea Hallmark: There's usually a little thing in the top right for the Oh Maxie Lopez: Oh. Maris Garcia: Ah Andrea Hallmark: hang Maris Garcia: there, Andrea Hallmark: on, it's just Maris Garcia: it's doing Andrea Hallmark: coming Maris Garcia: something. Andrea Hallmark: on. Maxie Lopez: pressed about five times now. Maxie Lopez: Okay, that's Andrea Hallmark. Maxie Lopez: Okay, um I have to go again. Pamela Quintana: it going? Maxie Lopez: Hopefully that should be it this time. Maxie Lopez: Okay, I think we're there. That's good. Okay, um Okay I'm gonna be looking at the working design. Um of the of the remote control. Um I've just got three sections, first is the research I made on the on the remote control itself um. And then that involves the components required in it and the systems uh design of the actual the actual remote. Um so having researched the existing models within the market, um I found my research off the internet. Um I've established what the components required for the remote control to function, actually are. And then also the methods in which these components interact together for the remote to actually do what you want it to do and how it connects with the television. Um the basic components are an energy source which I guess um in most existing models would be a battery supply. Whether that'll be sort of two batteries, four batteries, um it may vary. We then have Pamela Quintana: Okay. Maxie Lopez: the user interface, which is basically the like the the buttons on the actual remote. Um the various functions used for changing channel, uh channel up and down, volume, things like that. Um there's also a chip inside the remote which does all the computer type things. And then the sender, which um is usually, I've found, an infra-red device which sends a signal to the actual television. Um and the last part is receiver which is important in the system but is not actually part of the remote itself, because that's obviously found in the television. Um I'm gonna have to actually draw on the board because uh it was a little tricky on PowerPoint to get this working, so. I'll just go through there. S um um do we have a cloth to wipe this down with, or? Oh Maris Garcia: I Maxie Lopez: I'll Maris Garcia: think Pamela Quintana: Uh Maris Garcia: it's Maxie Lopez: j Maris Garcia: that Pamela Quintana: there's Maris Garcia: little Pamela Quintana: the rubber on the right, Maxie Lopez: Oh I see. Pamela Quintana: I think. Maxie Lopez: Oh okay. I'll get rid Pamela Quintana: it's Maxie Lopez: of Pamela Quintana: magic. Maxie Lopez: the bear Okay that's great. Okay, so we start off with a um battery suppl Uh no, a power supply which we'd probably get it's probably gonna be the battery. Um we then have a particular button, which may be that's obviously there's lots and lots of different buttons. Um but this is how the basic system works. Um that sends after you press that that sends the message to the chip, which um then sends It sort of interprets which button you've pressed and then sends the appropriate message to the sender. Maxie Lopez: Um. So that's. That's the remote in itself, that's the components of the remote and how they work together. So this is the uh user interface. Um this is the chip itself, which then, and that's the that's the infra-red sender. And then on the separate thing we have on the on the television we have a a receiver. And the sender sends a message to the receiver. 'Kay. Pamela Quintana: So the the top bit's the power source, yes? Maxie Lopez: Ah yes, that's the power source. Um. going on to personal preferences, I've said that battery seems the best option for the actual remote, just because of the size. You don't want a a cable attached to the remote otherwise it's not it's not really a remote. Um and then the sender, and infra-red um has been used quite successfully. If the battery's on reasonable power, they always seem to work fairly well. You don't have to be point directly at the television itself. Pamela Quintana: So the Maxie Lopez: Um Pamela Quintana: battery is the in the sender. Maxie Lopez: Yes. 'Kay and that's it for the moment. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Pamela Quintana: Okay. So, now more design. Maris Garcia: Right. Thank you. Mine's not quite as complicated as all that. Pamela Quintana: That's what we like to hear. Maris Garcia: Did I press function? Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Is it control function Maris Garcia: Oh. Pamela Quintana: ei Oh, th Maris Garcia: Um. Pamela Quintana: there you Maris Garcia: Okay Pamela Quintana: go. Maris Garcia: so I'm gonna talk a bit about the technical functions design. I'm Louisa, Maris Garcia, as you know. Um so the m is to send signal the to the television set, so that a desired function is performed. Um an example of the function could be to change the volume up or down, uh so obviously you need two different buttons for that. Um to change the channel, either by pressing the number that you want or by channel up or down. Um to switch the television on or off, maybe a standby button. Um here are two example remotes. Um by the look of it they both have um kind of play and fast forward, rewind functions, so I think they incorporate a kind of video function which we won't have to worry about. Uh but as you can see, the left remote is quite um quite busy looking, quite complicated. Um whereas the right remote is much simpler, it looks much more user friendly. Um so my personal preference would be the right remote. So, it's got nice big buttons, it's got a very limited number of buttons. Um they're nice, kinda clearly labelled. Um I like the use of the kind of um symbols like the triangles and the squares and the arrows as well as the words on the um kind of play functions and all that. So it's very very user friendly, and it's got a little splash of colour. Could maybe do with some more colour. Um. Pamela Quintana: Well there's a couple of things there. Um we have to remember that we have our own um logo and colour scheme. So basically we'd have to uh we'd have to be putting that on um the the product. Maris Garcia: Hmm. Do we get to see that? Will you be presenting Pamela Quintana: I haven't Maris Garcia: that in a bit? Pamela Quintana: as yet, no. But uh I got uh I got an email that basically said to uh make sure that uh whatever device we come up with at the end of the day had to incorporate um the corporate colour and slogan. So uh I'm guessing that uh uh I notice on the bottom there it's got uh what's that? A_P_O_G_E_E_ that might be the corporate colour scheme, although the only the only colour I can see in that is the red. Maris Garcia: Hmm. Maxie Lopez: Would you be able to get rid of the the extra buttons here, the the sort of circular section, because that seems to be for a video as well. So we could dispense with that little bit as well and just get it down to just the numbers and the volume. Maris Garcia: What Maxie Lopez: Possibly? Maris Garcia: do you mean by the circular section? Like Maxie Lopez: J Maris Garcia: all Maxie Lopez: yeah Maris Garcia: of Maxie Lopez: yeah Maris Garcia: that Maxie Lopez: yeah Maris Garcia: bottom Maxie Lopez: j Maris Garcia: bit? Maxie Lopez: yeah just this little bit is that I think that's still um a video Maris Garcia: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: remote part, so maybe we could get rid of that as well. Maris Garcia: Yeah. And I don't really Pamela Quintana: Well Maris Garcia: think that Pamela Quintana: b uh Maris Garcia: you need Pamela Quintana: w Maris Garcia: nine numbers. I mean how often do you use seven, eight and nine? I think just one to six and then channel up and down should be enough. Pamela Quintana: Well Maris Garcia: Like Pamela Quintana: th Maris Garcia: how Pamela Quintana: the Maris Garcia: often do Pamela Quintana: on Maris Garcia: you hit Pamela Quintana: the Maris Garcia: nine? Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: Well uh for for general television purposes obviously you have channels one to five at this point in time, and we'd have to have some room for uh future such channels. Maxie Lopez: It's Pamela Quintana: But Maxie Lopez: just people are used to seeing Pamela Quintana: but Maxie Lopez: that, so if we didn't have them then Pamela Quintana: But, Maxie Lopez: they might think it's Pamela Quintana: well possibly but the the other thing is that with um the current expansion of uh channels uh in the process of taking place, certainly the button up and down, but uh I mean how many channels do we have to um actual television channels do we have to uh prepare for? I would have thought that uh it's forever expanding and at the moment we've got although you've onl you've got the five standard, you've got the B_B_C_ have come up with a further six and uh there's uh Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: I don't know exactly how many channels there are on uh when you take into account uh Sky and various Maxie Lopez: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: other um various others. So Maris Garcia: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: I would've thought that we wouldn't, you know, rather Okay, if the time of flicking from one to other, but presumably it'll take a second 'cause you have to be able to stop it. Maybe you could have a fast forward on the on the channels that w and then you could dispense with more otherwise. Y you'd want you'd want to get fairly quickly to the channel that you wanted. Maris Garcia: Um some remotes have kind of favourite options where if you always flick from channel one to channel six, um if that's a favourite you just like by-pass Pamela Quintana: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: two to five. Pamela Quintana: Yeah, I s I suppose in a sense you could have um if you've got a hundred channels then if you had sort of an easy way of getting rather than having to go one to a hundred, you could go one to one to ten, ten Maris Garcia: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: to twenty and then have a second button to get Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: you to the actual channel you want and that would cut down your time. Maris Garcia: Mm. Um. Pamela Quintana: Anyway. Maris Garcia: But I think a lot of um like Cable and Sky and stuff, that would be tuned to one channel, and then you'd have another remote for all of those channels. Like Maxie Lopez: Okay, Maris Garcia: to get to Maxie Lopez: yeah. Maris Garcia: fifty five and the higher numbers Pamela Quintana: Whatever. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Okay. Limit the number of buttons, user friendly. Maris Garcia: But I suppose nine's not really excessive. Maxie Lopez: I suppose Maris Garcia: I Maxie Lopez: with Maris Garcia: suppose Maxie Lopez: nine Maris Garcia: it does Maxie Lopez: you've Maris Garcia: make Maxie Lopez: got Maris Garcia: a Maxie Lopez: the Maris Garcia: good Maxie Lopez: the Maris Garcia: pattern. Maxie Lopez: like the last one which makes the tenth means you uh it's like uh multiples you can put them together so you can make any number. So with that we'd kind of by-pass Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: any problems with Pamela Quintana: Well that's true, yeah, you Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: could get fifty by five and a zero or whatever, Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: that that makes sense. Maxie Lopez: 'Cause that facilitates having all the numbers you could ever need. Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: Um. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: Does. Maris Garcia: Okay. Pamela Quintana: So w so what was the circular thing that you were Maris Garcia: Um I think that's just for a video, so we wouldn't need any of that at all. Maxie Lopez: So we could get it Pamela Quintana: If Maxie Lopez: down Pamela Quintana: it's Maxie Lopez: to Pamela Quintana: just Maxie Lopez: what? Pamela Quintana: for T_V_, which is what it is at the moment. Maris Garcia: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: So we get to How many buttons have we got? We've just got ten, eleven twelve th I guess. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: Um which isn't really too many. That'll be quite easy to make a user guide for a fourteen Pamela Quintana: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: button remote. Pamela Quintana: Well we've we've got um that it's remote for T_V_ only otherwise project would become too complex with uh which would endanger the time to market Maxie Lopez: 'Kay. Pamela Quintana: was one of the considerations. I'm I don't know Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: d did you have that information behind the marketing, or was Andrea Hallmark: Um Pamela Quintana: I meant to give you that information? Andrea Hallmark: I'm not sure. I had I've had some market information, but Pamela Quintana: Right. Andrea Hallmark: not from the company, no. Pamela Quintana: Right, okay, so basically time to market seems to be important, therefore Maxie Lopez: 'Kay. Pamela Quintana: speed of delivery. We've only got about another four hours left. Maris Garcia: Okay, so is everyone happy with that? Maxie Lopez: Ah yes yes, Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Maxie Lopez: that seems good. Maris Garcia: Right well that's the end of my presentation. Andrea Hallmark: 'Kay. I'm gonna pull this off. Maxie Lopez: I think if you just give it a second to Pamela Quintana: Yeah, Maxie Lopez: maybe Pamela Quintana: I think Maxie Lopez: catch Pamela Quintana: she said twenty Maxie Lopez: up. Pamela Quintana: seconds to um Andrea Hallmark: Uh-huh. Okay. Maxie Lopez: I'm sure we'll have by the end of today. Andrea Hallmark: I'll give it another go. Andrea Hallmark: there. Right, we've done some research into the functional requirements that people want out of their remote control. And first off we should state that th the remote control's for controlling the T_V_ and um how do people use it? We asked them sort of which buttons were useful for them. Um how d how does a remote control look and feel for them, and what improvements would would they like to remote control. And we did that by sort of giving them a questionnaire that we'd prepared and asking them to fill in the answers. And three quarters of them found that remote controls are ugly and that a sort of even higher proportion would spend more for a sort of s uh a fancier remote control And that of all the buttons on the remote control, the sort of setting buttons for sort of the picture picture and brightness and the audio settings, um they weren't used very often at all. People concentrated on the channel buttons and the volume buttons and the power buttons. Uh we also asked them about speech recognition uh for remote control. And young people were quite receptive to this, but as soon as we got sort of over about into a thirty five to forty age forty five age group and older, people people weren't quite so keen on speech recognition. There's a lot more th there's a lot lot more older people who didn't know whether they wanted it or not as well. Um we also asked what frustrated people about remote controls and the number one frustration was that the remote was lost somewhere else in the room and that they couldn't find it. And the second second biggest frustration what that if they got a new remote control, it was difficult to learn um all the buttons and all the functions, and to find your way around it. Okay, so My personal preferences from the marketing is that we need to come up with some sort of sleek sort of good looking high high-tech A design which looks high-tech, basically. Um and that we should come up with fewer buttons than most of the controls on the market, and we should sort of concentrate on the channels and sort of power, and also volume and that sort of thing, as as Louisa said. Um we could maybe come up with a menu, a sort of a an L_C_D_ menu for other functions on the remote control. That's worth thinking about. Um and maybe we could think about speech recognition as well, because um sort of young people are perhaps the ones that are gonna buy buy our new product if we aim it at sort of you know sort of a high-tech design. That that might be the market that we're we're looking for. And we could maybe think about using speech recogniti recognition as a way to find the remote control if it's lost in a room, rather than sort of um having it to speech recognition to change the channels. 'Cause there's a problem with that in that the television makes noise, so it could end up talking to itself and changing its channel. Maxie Lopez: Mm. Andrea Hallmark: Okay um, and that's the end of the slide show. That's it. Cool. Maris Garcia: Do Pamela Quintana: What was Maris Garcia: a Pamela Quintana: that Maris Garcia: lot Pamela Quintana: last Maris Garcia: of um Pamela Quintana: wee bit there? Andrea Hallmark: Um about Pamela Quintana: Speech Andrea Hallmark: speech Pamela Quintana: recognition, Andrea Hallmark: recognition? Yeah. Pamela Quintana: But that was only for young people that preferred it, older people didn't. Andrea Hallmark: Youn young people pref Yeah, they s they said that they'd be interested in a remote control which offered that possibility and as you go up through the age groups, people got less and less interested in sort of a a remote control that you could talk to, so. Maxie Lopez: No what I maybe think is um it seems the technology would be quite advanced for that and they might end up costing more than our twelve fifty budget for Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Well that's Maxie Lopez: for Pamela Quintana: right. Maxie Lopez: the speech Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: recognition. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: Um. And possibly the thing about the about the remote being lost we could have You know with your mobile phone, you lose that and you can ring it. Maybe we can have some kind of sensor which is kept somewhere where you can some kind of buzzer system between the two. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So you can press a button which is always kept in one place and then it Andrea Hallmark: Uh-huh. Maxie Lopez: maybe buzzes to Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: somewhere else, wherever the remote actually is. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah, we'd have t that would mean we'd have to put two products together as well, which Maxie Lopez: That is true, yes. Andrea Hallmark: which again would probably be a bit expensive, Maxie Lopez: Hmm. Andrea Hallmark: but Maris Garcia: There's key rings um that you kind of whistle at or clap at, I can't remember, Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maris Garcia: and then they whistle back, or something like that. Pamela Quintana: Sounds Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maris Garcia: That'd Pamela Quintana: reasonable. Maris Garcia: probably be really simple, they're cheap. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So I guess it'd be something we could Pamela Quintana: So Maxie Lopez: like attach to the or like the same technology could be put inside the Pamela Quintana: Well Maxie Lopez: inside Pamela Quintana: if Maxie Lopez: the remote. Pamela Quintana: you're trying to avoid having a second product 'cause obviously you could have a second product that gave you the right pitch which would set the remote off to say here I am sort of thing, you know without sound recognition. But if you I know. Um I was gonna say a sharp noise, you know a clapping of hand or whatever. You'd want to try and av just have the one product that Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: if Maxie Lopez: Yeah if we if we Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: could have it in the actual remote like everything in one Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: one device. Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Um I dunno um talking about vo I mean obviously if you've got voice recognition then you can do it in that way because it'll recognise the voice and you can give it a command, a set command whatever that happened to be. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: But you've then got the point if if you're not going with uh voice recognition then Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: you could have an option to turn it off. Or Perhaps, um. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So that would solve the problems with the T_V_ kind of speaking to the remote and changing its own channels. Pamela Quintana: Mm. So uh Any sugges Well, any conclusions? Andrea Hallmark: Um would it take quite a while to sort of develop the speech recognition software in the remote control? Maxie Lopez: Mm. Andrea Hallmark: Considering Pamela Quintana: Well if it does then we can't. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: It's that simple, because we've got uh th th three um primary um uh requisites from uh from and email uh that was sent to Andrea Hallmark whereby we had The design logo was one, which we've already mentioned. We've got um the remote was only for the television and not for because that would make it too complex and we have to get it market quickly. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: And the uh third thing was that um teletext uh as far as uh the management is concerned, um is becoming dated uh due to the popularity of the internet. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Pamela Quintana: So Maxie Lopez: 'Kay. Pamela Quintana: that means that uh so these are the sort of three um extra parameters that have been put on this uh project. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: So we're being focused effectively directly at a television and Maxie Lopez: Yes. Pamela Quintana: it seems to Andrea Hallmark that the management is uh wanting us to go down a narrow path and not opening out. So anything that uh is to be added, such as voice recognition et cetera Maxie Lopez: Has to be simple Pamela Quintana: has Maxie Lopez: enough to Pamela Quintana: to be very simple and has to be very quick because time to market is is critical. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: S Maxie Lopez: I suppose if we could get something in which was quite quick and simple that would give us an advantage over the other remotes. Pamela Quintana: It would. Maxie Lopez: Um. Pamela Quintana: But probably quick and simple is primary rather than Maxie Lopez: 'Kay. Pamela Quintana: added extras. Added extras would be nice, but the primary consideration is to get the project finished within uh this short time window, Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: which effectively now is sort of four hours. So and if and we've gotta get to the end. Uh d d I think I think first and foremost we've gotta get to the end and then get to the end with um added extras if possible. Maxie Lopez: Mm-hmm. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Andrea Hallmark: So Pamela Quintana: Right okay, uh so I need to Right. So I don't know how long we have left of our uh time. But we have to Andrea Hallmark: About Pamela Quintana: make Andrea Hallmark: five Pamela Quintana: the decisions Andrea Hallmark: minutes. Pamela Quintana: on uh the remote control functions and how we were planning to proceed so that at the next uh meeting each person that's got a a a task to do is clear Maxie Lopez: Yes. Pamela Quintana: from this meeting what that task is. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: Um. Pamela Quintana: We'll also know w when the next meeting is I um so we'll know how long we've got to complete that task. And then we can report back at the next meeting and say right okay yes, we've achieved this or we haven't achieved this, this is how far we've progressed. Does Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: that make reasonable sense? Maxie Lopez: Yes that Maris Garcia: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: seems Andrea Hallmark: Okay, Maxie Lopez: right. Andrea Hallmark: yeah. Pamela Quintana: So we have to come effectively to the decision on the remote functions so that you can decide what you're gonna be doing. And if dur between the time of this meeting finishing and the next meeting starting, if you get any additional information that uh only you have at Maxie Lopez: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: that point in time you'd think would be relevant to other people in terms of their des decision making um process, then we should communicate that as quickly as possible Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: and not wait until the next meeting. Do it via Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Pamela Quintana: the email Andrea Hallmark: Yep. Pamela Quintana: so that rather than coming you know If you get the information just before the next meeting that's fine. Come along with it in the next meeting, we can discuss it then and Maxie Lopez: Okay. Pamela Quintana: take whatever action is appropriate. But if you get it well before the next meeting, let everybody else know 'cause that might have an impact on their uh Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: on what they come up with effectively at the next meeting. Okay. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: Right, is there Andrea Hallmark: So do we need to decide on the functions now? S Pamela Quintana: I would guess so. Maris Garcia: Well I think it'd be really easy and it'd be a big advantage if we did have some sort of um kind of whistle back Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: kind of function. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah and Maris Garcia: 'Cause that'll solve kind of the frustration of losing it. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah and that was that was the number one sort of frustration Pamela Quintana: Yep. Andrea Hallmark: that people said, so. I don't think there's anything else on the market that does that, so. Maris Garcia: Yeah. I don't really know about the voice recognition thing. Pamela Quintana: I w well uh i Maxie Lopez: Maybe we should concentrate just on the whistle back function Pamela Quintana: Something Maxie Lopez: at the moment, Pamela Quintana: simple. Maxie Lopez: and if something Pamela Quintana: Uh if Maxie Lopez: comes Pamela Quintana: if Maxie Lopez: back Pamela Quintana: our primary consideration is to get it there in time, time's short, you want something to meet the major concerns of the consumer Maris Garcia: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: so that we can have Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: that as a selling point for the product, something that's quick and simple. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: So, Maris Garcia: And that Pamela Quintana: sounds Maris Garcia: wouldn't put Pamela Quintana: good. Maris Garcia: off the kind of older generation either, 'cause everyone can whistle or clap, and they wouldn't have to be kind of scared of this new technology. Pamela Quintana: Well, so maybe Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: a clap rather than a whistle would be On the basis that if we've got if we're catering to the whole age range, you want something that's easy to do, now something that doesn't Andrea Hallmark: No Pamela Quintana: like Andrea Hallmark: not Pamela Quintana: whis Andrea Hallmark: everyone Pamela Quintana: uh Andrea Hallmark: can whistle, can Pamela Quintana: Well Andrea Hallmark: they, though? Pamela Quintana: I I I don't know. Well If you think that more people can whistle than clap then that's fine, then go for that option, but if I would Andrea Hallmark: No, Pamela Quintana: have Andrea Hallmark: clapping, Maxie Lopez: I'd Pamela Quintana: thought Maxie Lopez: go Pamela Quintana: that Maxie Lopez: more Pamela Quintana: more people Andrea Hallmark: I Maxie Lopez: Yeah, Andrea Hallmark: think clapping, Maxie Lopez: f more Pamela Quintana: could Maxie Lopez: for Andrea Hallmark: yeah. Maxie Lopez: clap. Pamela Quintana: clap rather than whistle, Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: so uh so clap option. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Maris Garcia: 'Kay we've already decided that we don't need a teletext button, haven't we? Pamela Quintana: Uh. Maris Garcia: Is that one Pamela Quintana: Ef Maris Garcia: of Pamela Quintana: effectively Maris Garcia: the Pamela Quintana: that's what the that's what they're saying, that uh Maris Garcia: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: if uh if people are now using the internet then you don't need teletext, so Andrea Hallmark: Taking out teletext, Pamela Quintana: so Andrea Hallmark: okay. Pamela Quintana: take out teletext. Maxie Lopez: Did we decide Maris Garcia: Right. Maxie Lopez: on having the ten um the ten numbers and then the Maris Garcia: Yeah, I think so, Maxie Lopez: the Maris Garcia: so Maxie Lopez: little Maris Garcia: zero Maxie Lopez: digit Maris Garcia: to Maxie Lopez: next Maris Garcia: nine. Maxie Lopez: to it which kind of Andrea Hallmark: Mm. Maxie Lopez: enabled you to put them together. Andrea Hallmark: I think nowadays you can just get ones where it gives you a sort of a second or two to press another number, Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Andrea Hallmark: so you can press any two and it'll sort of put them together. Maxie Lopez: Okay, ten numbers and then some kind of device to allow uh Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: I'll put delay to allow um Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: multiple numbers. Or multiple digits. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: Did we decide anything about um the other functions? As in setting the audio and tuning it and stuff like that? You had an had an idea about the menu? Andrea Hallmark: Uh we could possibly put an L_ a sort of a L_C_D_ menu in, but that again is probably an expense that Maxie Lopez: But just thinking um people probably I mean you don't have you only have to probably tune in the T_V_ once, but you have to be able to tune it that once. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So and if finally the T_V_ breaks, you get a new one, you're gonna have to be able to tune it. You can't really avoid Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: that. Maris Garcia: Hmm. Pamela Quintana: No. Maxie Lopez: Except the new digital markets which do it by themselves. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So that'll Pamela Quintana: But Maxie Lopez: be in Pamela Quintana: the but that's relying on the television market changing Maxie Lopez: Yes. Pamela Quintana: to an automatic and if it is at the moment, that's fine. But at the moment it's not, so it seems to Andrea Hallmark that you have to have a device that caters, 'cause Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: otherwise it would make it uh your device would become inoperable, Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: or only operable in certain circumstances Maxie Lopez: Yeah Pamela Quintana: and Maxie Lopez: yeah. Maris Garcia: Mm. Pamela Quintana: the idea is to have an international market which is Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: And it's also m it's the the product we've got is something that's at the I would have said the lower end of the s of the cost scale, so Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: we're not really going for something that's uh Andrea Hallmark: I s I suppose Pamela Quintana: terribly Andrea Hallmark: um Pamela Quintana: high-tech. Andrea Hallmark: if people are buying remotes, then they're probably buying it to replace another remote Pamela Quintana: Possibly. Andrea Hallmark: 'cause all most tellies come with remotes, so. I Pamela Quintana: That's right. Andrea Hallmark: mean we're maybe talking about replacing remotes for slightly older televisions, so we maybe need to keep the the tuning function in. Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So how would this menu function work? Would you maybe have like one menu button, then you'd use the other buttons, maybe the number buttons to actually do the separate functions. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah, Maris Garcia: Yeah, Andrea Hallmark: that would be Maris Garcia: like Andrea Hallmark: a good Maris Garcia: the volume Andrea Hallmark: idea, Maris Garcia: or something. Andrea Hallmark: yeah. Maxie Lopez: Okay. Maris Garcia: Yeah, 'cause you do need um kind of brightness and contrast and everything as well. My dad Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: was watching a film the other week and it was too dark, so I had to go through it and turn the brightness up. Maxie Lopez: we're Andrea Hallmark: Hmm. Maxie Lopez: gonna have the the individual numbers and then a menu function and maybe sort of a slightly more advanced um instruction booklet to come with it, to guide Presu uh I think it'd be quite hard just for people to grasp um just off like the menu use different buttons you maybe have to have like some better instructions of how Andrea Hallmark: Uh Maxie Lopez: that would actually work. Andrea Hallmark: I'm not sure whether the sort of having people have a booklet 'cause one the second most annoying thing that people found was having to learn the new one. Maxie Lopez: Right, okay Andrea Hallmark: So Maxie Lopez: um. Andrea Hallmark: maybe next to each of the buttons, you know each of them could have a number and then also a function written next to it, so you're basically pressing Maxie Lopez: that also goes back to the original design when we saw those two, and there was the one on the left hand side which had all like the double functions and stuff which kind of looked too busy and had Andrea Hallmark: Right. Maxie Lopez: too much on it, so. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Maris Garcia: Well, Pamela Quintana: Okay, Maris Garcia: if we're Pamela Quintana: well. Maris Garcia: trying to keep it slee sleek and sexy as well, have you seen those Pamela Quintana: Mm. Maris Garcia: remotes where kind of um the bottom bit slides down, so there's Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maris Garcia: kind of um everything Pamela Quintana: So y Maris Garcia: else revealed? So you don't Pamela Quintana: Ah Maris Garcia: use it that much, you don't have to see it all the time. Pamela Quintana: That's a very Maris Garcia: But Pamela Quintana: good Maris Garcia: it's Pamela Quintana: idea. Maris Garcia: all there Maxie Lopez: That Maris Garcia: if you Maxie Lopez: is Maris Garcia: need Andrea Hallmark: Yeah, Maxie Lopez: that is Maris Garcia: it. Maxie Lopez: a good idea actually. Andrea Hallmark: yeah. Maxie Lopez: Sor sort of a second. Pamela Quintana: So you keep um Maris Garcia: Like a hidden panel. Pamela Quintana: Right we've got five minutes before we wind up this meeting, so I've been told. Maxie Lopez: Okay. Pamela Quintana: I don't know if you've got the same. Maxie Lopez: Uh not quite, but Pamela Quintana: Okay. Maxie Lopez: I guess. Pamela Quintana: So so keep um Maxie Lopez: Keep the other buttons but hide them away. Pamela Quintana: keep detailed functions um hidden at the back. Maris Garcia: Hmm. And that'll be better for the older generation as well 'cause, well my dad doesn't like Pamela Quintana: Ah. Maris Garcia: anything that you've got to kinda flick through a menu, Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: but he can pretty much read a button Pamela Quintana: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: So Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maris Garcia: if it's displayed properly. Maxie Lopez: So um we're gonna have to have to work out what's gonna be on these other functions as as well. So we're Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: gonna have like two separate Pamela Quintana: That's right. Maxie Lopez: two separate lists, I guess. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: data functions hidden at back. Andrea Hallmark: So th the Pamela Quintana: Can bring out when needed. Andrea Hallmark: The detailed ones would be sort of brightness, Maris Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Hallmark: uh sorta Pamela Quintana: That's right so we're dis So you've got which ones are gonna be on the front and which ones are gonna be on the back. Maxie Lopez: So Pamela Quintana: We Maxie Lopez: sh Pamela Quintana: have to decide. Maxie Lopez: Should we decide Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maxie Lopez: in the next couple of minutes, and then Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: I guess so. Maxie Lopez: So on the Pamela Quintana: So on front, Maxie Lopez: about the number. Pamela Quintana: numbers, Maxie Lopez: Um Maris Garcia: And the volume? Maxie Lopez: the volume up and down. Pamela Quintana: volume. Maxie Lopez: Shall Maris Garcia: Um. Maxie Lopez: we have a mute button as well? Pamela Quintana: Sorry? Maxie Lopez: A mute button as well. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Mm. Maxie Lopez: Yeah. Maris Garcia: Yeah Maxie Lopez: Or Maris Garcia: I think they're handy. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. And probably a power one as well. Dunno. Maris Garcia: Have you seen the adverts? Like if you Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: boil the kettle that's full that's a waste. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: If you leave your telly on standby it powers Blackpool for a certain amount of time. Like we should maybe try to discourage people from standby. Maxie Lopez: But then they might not buy it if they haven't got one. 'Cause Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: people might Maris Garcia: Yeah, Maxie Lopez: just Maris Garcia: it's Maxie Lopez: be too Maris Garcia: maybe Maxie Lopez: fickle Maris Garcia: too much Maxie Lopez: and Maris Garcia: of Maxie Lopez: not Maris Garcia: a big Maxie Lopez: want to Maris Garcia: issue Maxie Lopez: change. Maris Garcia: for here. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: We can send out a flier with the device Pamela Quintana: So Maxie Lopez: saying that you shouldn't Pamela Quintana: so are Maxie Lopez: leave Maris Garcia: Uh-oh Pamela Quintana: you having Maxie Lopez: it on Maris Garcia: danger Maxie Lopez: stand-by. Pamela Quintana: the stand-by Maris Garcia: sign. Pamela Quintana: on the front, then? Maxie Lopez: I think you probably should. Maris Garcia: Yeah, but a little bit smaller. Compromise. Pamela Quintana: Well. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Maxie Lopez: Um are we gonna have the channel up and down as well as the number buttons? Andrea Hallmark: Um 'cause yeah the market research said there is quite a lot of people do just zap around Maxie Lopez: Okay, Andrea Hallmark: and flick, Maxie Lopez: so we'll Andrea Hallmark: so. Maxie Lopez: have um Maris Garcia: Right. Maxie Lopez: So we've got ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen there? Andrea Hallmark: Um. Pamela Quintana: Channel up and down. What else have we got? What was that, sixteen? Andrea Hallmark: Numbers is ten, volume is twelve, th Pamela Quintana: Volume button. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah Pamela Quintana: How many Andrea Hallmark: si Pamela Quintana: volumes? Andrea Hallmark: One up, one down. Pamela Quintana: Right okay. Maris Garcia: On mute. Andrea Hallmark: And a mute, yeah. That's sixteen isn't it, yeah. Maxie Lopez: Is there anything else? Um. Andrea Hallmark: I don't think so, no. Pamela Quintana: Power button, stand-by, channel, up and down. So is that it? Maris Garcia: so. Pamela Quintana: Okay. That's sixteen buttons, you reckon. And then at the back? Andrea Hallmark: You've got brightness and contrast. Maxie Lopez: Maybe Maris Garcia: And then Maxie Lopez: if we're gonna run out of time, one of us should come up with a list of these and then get back at the next meeting just at the start and say what they're gonna be. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: So Maris Garcia: Mm-hmm. Pamela Quintana: on the back it'll have brightness, contrast, anything else? Maris Garcia: Uh Pamela Quintana: You're Maris Garcia: there's Pamela Quintana: also Maris Garcia: audio Pamela Quintana: gonna have Maris Garcia: functions. Pamela Quintana: the channel tuner, as it were. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: So tuner up and down, I guess. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Tuner, would that have up and down? Maxie Lopez: Um up Maris Garcia: I think they normally Maxie Lopez: Tune one Maris Garcia: do. Maxie Lopez: way, tune Pamela Quintana: okay. Maxie Lopez: the o I I dunno I Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: dunno possibly. Maris Garcia: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Andrea Hallmark: And then maybe sort of an enter button for sort of s you know, saying that you want that particular thing tuned in. So you go up and down and then it pick Maxie Lopez: Oh yeah Andrea Hallmark: it Maxie Lopez: and Andrea Hallmark: finds Maxie Lopez: th and a Andrea Hallmark: something Maxie Lopez: enter Andrea Hallmark: and Maxie Lopez: button Andrea Hallmark: then you Maxie Lopez: just Andrea Hallmark: wanna Maxie Lopez: to Andrea Hallmark: press Maxie Lopez: select. Yeah, Andrea Hallmark: enter Maxie Lopez: okay. Andrea Hallmark: to select it, yeah. Maxie Lopez: Um I guess we're keeping s it simple. We don't really need any other audio funct uh functions because it's just volume up, volume Pamela Quintana: Um Maxie Lopez: down. Pamela Quintana: up volume, yeah, I would have thought so. Maxie Lopez: Um. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Maris Garcia: So I think um there's quite a lot of like Dolby surround studio, surround sort of things. Andrea Hallmark: Yeah. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Maxie Lopez: Do Maris Garcia: Um Maxie Lopez: they have their Maris Garcia: maybe Maxie Lopez: own Maris Garcia: for the younger market. Maxie Lopez: do they have their own controls on their actual products, then, or do you have to do it via the remote? Maris Garcia: Um I think they've got their own controls in this kind of like hidden panel. Maxie Lopez: Yeah I suppose if we've got their if they've got their own controls then we can avoid it for ours Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Maxie Lopez: just to keep it simple. Pamela Quintana: Yeah. Maris Garcia: Oh no, I mean um like there's kind of individual buttons for them, Maxie Lopez: Oh, okay. Maris Garcia: like on the T_V_ remote. Maxie Lopez: Right. Andrea Hallmark: Mm-hmm. Maris Garcia: But I don't really know what they're for, I've never used them. Maxie Lopez: Um. Maris Garcia: I just know they're something to do with Maxie Lopez: Maybe unless something Maris Garcia: Dolby. Maxie Lopez: comes up then we should I Pamela Quintana: Well Maxie Lopez: think Pamela Quintana: you might get some research. Maxie Lopez: Well shall we look into that and just get back together. Pamela Quintana: Okay. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Maris Garcia: Right. Pamela Quintana: Right Andrea Hallmark: Right. Pamela Quintana: so I'll do the minutes of uh this meeting. And we'll meet back at I'm not sure. Um forty minutes, I believe is the time. Maxie Lopez: 'Kay. Andrea Hallmark: Okay. Pamela Quintana: Come on.	Pamela Quintana gave the group new requirements on product features. Maxie Lopez gave a presentation on the working design of the device. He presented all the necessary internal components and how they operate together. He gave his preferences on energy sources and senders. Maris Garcia presented the necessary functions of the remote, then compared the interfaces of two existing remotes. The group discussed making their remote more user-friendly; they proposed eliminating rarely-used buttons and making it easier to skip through channels. Andrea Hallmark discussed user requirements with the group and showed that users wanted a fancier, less complicated remote that would not be easily lost. He suggested incorporating a menu and an LCD screen to satisfy these requirements. The group discussed how to incorporate a locator function. Pamela Quintana reminded the group to limit the number of complicated features due to the project's time constraints. The group had a discussion to decide on product features. They decided to include a clapping locator function and a device that allows the user to enter two numbers separately to get a two-digit number. Complicated functions will be hidden in a back panel.	4	amisum	train
Kimberly Peters: Okay. Kimberly Peters: Right. Conceptual design meeting. Right. so Right well um from the last meeting I was trying to send you the minutes, but uh it didn't work out too well, so maybe in sort of um quick summary of the last uh meeting, I can quickly give you what we what we had. Uh right, so Wishing I hadn't closed the damn Right so we had the fact we're gonna have the the logo uh the company its uh colour incorporated the device the remote device We had uh made our decisions about uh made our decisions about uh the device itself, that it was gonna be simple to make it uh enable us to complete the project in time. We're gonna have uh effectively two pages, a front page which had the uh features that the uh the customers most wanted, and then the uh the backup features on the second page so that it could uh meet the technical requirements. And the customers wouldn't have to look at them too often, only as and when required. So. So basically what decisions uh have we uh made? Uh have there been any uh changes? Corinne Garcia: I think we all have a presentation again, so Kimberly Peters: Right. Corinne Garcia: if we go through Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: those and then um. Kimberly Peters: Three presentation, Corinne Garcia: Shall Kimberly Peters: yeah. Corinne Garcia: I Kimberly Peters: So Corinne Garcia: go first again? Kimberly Peters: Yeah, fine. Freeda Shuey: Okay. Corinne Garcia: I see this a little more smoothly than the last one. Corinne Garcia: Okay right, let's get started. Um basically the uh for the Um I'll back actually. For the components design, um next step is basically the the way the remote's gonna work is still the same idea as before. still have the user interface is all the buttons we're gonna incorporate. Then there is a chip and still the sender. So um yes including the power s supply as well. Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas. Uh first in the power supply, we have the option of just the standard battery, um. There's a dynamo. Any of you think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up um. There's a kinetic option, which if any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around, um it just requires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced. Um that's Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: one option, but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells. Um as a final option. For the buttons, we have um an integrated push button, which is Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction. So I guess for the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options. Um Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: so for the buttons there's an integrated push button, which I guess is just the same as the standard ones. This says it's uh similar to uh the button on the mouse for a normal for like uh like modern computer. Um there's a scroll wheel which is you know the new mouse has just got like the centre section which you can scroll up and down, which may be for the volume. You could Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: do do that. Um one issue for the buttons is, depending on which material we use, if we use rubber buttons then it requires a rubber case, so we have to take that into consideration. Um moving on to the printed Kimberly Peters: What would Corinne Garcia: s Kimberly Peters: be the cost do do we know? Corinne Garcia: Um that's on the next I th I think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost, that that related to the actual buttons, but it does affect the printed circuit board. Um which is the next section. Basically for the circuit board which is the middle, it's just see it down there the chips like the Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: like the workings of the actual um of the remote. The firm supplies a simple, a regular and an advanced um circuit board. And there's different prices according to each. So if we've got the scroll wheel for one of the buttons, that would require a slightly more advanced circuit board Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: than if we just had a standard um push button. Um one final thing we came up with was some information on the speech recognition. There's a small unit available through the company um which obviously would be an extra cost, but it wouldn't affect the size of the remote too much. Um and I guess that would require a more advanced circuit board, so there is an extra price in that sense. There is th sorry an extra cost in that sense. Um going to my personal preferences, um I thought possibly for power we could use kinetic um which is the idea of the watches um that you move you move the remote around to power it up. And this would avoid batteries running out, having to replace batteries and such like. Um for the buttons, I thought we'd probably get away with just having the standard um push buttons rather than the scroll wheel. Um and for the circuit board, again depends on which features we want in the actual in the remote. So if we wanted the scroll wheel and wanted the voice recognition, um then we'd have to get a a more costly circuit board. And that's it. Freeda Shuey: 'Kay. Willie Wegner: Thanks. Kimberly Peters: with the printed circuit boards you were going for the Corinne Garcia: Um i it kind of depends um if we're gonna have the speech recognition, we'd have to probably get an advanced one. I'm guessing. Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: Uh but I don't know, so that is something I'll have Kimberly Peters: But Corinne Garcia: to look Kimberly Peters: are we Corinne Garcia: into. Kimberly Peters: going f R right. Corinne Garcia: Um that's a that's a decision for all of us. Um. Kimberly Peters: So are we able to make that decision Corinne Garcia: Yeah Kimberly Peters: now Corinne Garcia: yeah. Kimberly Peters: in a sense that this is the point at which Corinne Garcia: We Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: decide. Kimberly Peters: we're discussing that issue, so Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: would it not be best to rather than I mean one way is to do each of the presentations and then make decisions going back to the various presentations as they were. The other way would be to do the presentation Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: and then make the decision at that point in time. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: Yeah, Corinne Garcia: Maybe Willie Wegner: that's probably Corinne Garcia: w Willie Wegner: a better one, to discuss it straight away. Kimberly Peters: 'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there, so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular and what required advance. Then if we were Corinne Garcia: Um. Kimberly Peters: able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time and then that would be the end of that issue. Does that Corinne Garcia: Yes. Kimberly Peters: make sense? Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Um I have a lot of the information there. It might not be very clear. Corinne Garcia: Is there Willie Wegner: Unless you want to plug it back in to yours. Corinne Garcia: Um. We could do, yeah. Um yeah we should. Corinne Garcia: As I say it only specified that we need a more advanced circuit board for the scroll wheel, it didn't Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: The voice recognition came as a separate piece of information. Um. Kimberly Peters: No the scroll wheel required the regular, so the Corinne Garcia: Yeah if if you down um. Kimberly Peters: Hmm. Corinne Garcia: It's just this bit at the bottom which I've highlighted, but the scroll wheel requires a mini m minimally a regular chip, which is in the higher price range. Kimberly Peters: Okay. Willie Wegner: I think Kimberly Peters: The display Willie Wegner: the scroll Kimberly Peters: requires Willie Wegner: wheel Kimberly Peters: an Willie Wegner: um Kimberly Peters: advanced chip the display requires an advanced chip which Corinne Garcia: Also the Kimberly Peters: in Corinne Garcia: display's Kimberly Peters: turn Corinne Garcia: for something Kimberly Peters: is more Corinne Garcia: else which Kimberly Peters: expense. Corinne Garcia: we decided against. Um but that bit Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: And note that the push button just requires a simple chip, so that would keep the price Kimberly Peters: Down. Corinne Garcia: down. Willie Wegner: Yeah, and if we're Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: going for sleek and sexy, I think a scroll wheel is maybe a bit kinda bulky? I I've got um pictures well I've seen pictures with it kind of sticking off the side of it, and Kimberly Peters: Right. Willie Wegner: they don't really look great. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: So maybe just a simple push button, and that would Kimberly Peters: So. Corinne Garcia: cut costs on Kimberly Peters: So Corinne Garcia: the Kimberly Peters: we're going for p Okay. So is um Freeda Shuey: So are we going for the w are we going for the simple one, are we? Willie Wegner: Yeah, a simple Freeda Shuey: Okay. Kimberly Peters: Simple Willie Wegner: pushbuttons. Kimberly Peters: push button. Corinne Garcia: on the speech recognition? The um it was basically what we said before, the idea that you record in a set message, and then it picks up that message um Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: and replies to you. So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board. I'm guessing it would, but got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than Kimberly Peters: So if we go for the simple push button, so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we? Or are we going for the regular? Corinne Garcia: Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board. Kimberly Peters: Mm-mm. But is there any other I mean okay, that's true for the for for that element, but we have to take all el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one, or say the regular one, or Freeda Shuey: Mm. Kimberly Peters: the more advanced, then that would have to be the same for all of them. Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: S Freeda Shuey: I suppose Willie Wegner: But Freeda Shuey: we need we need to find out what circuit board that requires, maybe before we m make a decision. Willie Wegner: But Kimberly Peters: Right. Willie Wegner: the way that I interpret that um it doesn't seem to send out a signal to the telly, it just it's like a parrot just rep reply Freeda Shuey: Oh yeah, Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: replying Freeda Shuey: I suppose Willie Wegner: to your message. Freeda Shuey: so, yeah. Corinne Garcia: So maybe that would be something Willie Wegner: So Corinne Garcia: separate, Willie Wegner: I don't think it Corinne Garcia: yeah. Willie Wegner: would effect our Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: circuit Kimberly Peters: No. Willie Wegner: board. Corinne Garcia: Okay, so we'd have a simple circuit board and that would be an extra that would be in addition Willie Wegner: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: to it. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: And Corinne Garcia: Oh Willie Wegner: I don't Corinne Garcia: that makes Willie Wegner: think Corinne Garcia: sense. Willie Wegner: you could really perform any of the remote functions with it. 'Cause the example that they've given there is good morning coffee machine, good morning Jo. Kimberly Peters: Mm-mm. Willie Wegner: It might be useful to say like where are you remote. Corinne Garcia: Okay. Willie Wegner: Here I am, Jo. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: But I think that's maybe as far as that one could go? Kimberly Peters: Okay. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: Yeah that makes sense, so we'd stick with the simple circuit board and then think of the speech recognition as an extra an extra Willie Wegner: Yeah, just Corinne Garcia: possibility. Willie Wegner: as a fun way to find it. Corinne Garcia: Okay. Um. Kimberly Peters: Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W Willie Wegner: And it says that Kimberly Peters: w kinetic. Willie Wegner: I think it said Kimberly Peters: You Willie Wegner: the cost Kimberly Peters: were you Willie Wegner: of that Kimberly Peters: were Willie Wegner: isn't Kimberly Peters: wanting Willie Wegner: too Kimberly Peters: to Willie Wegner: much. Kimberly Peters: go for the kinetic power supply. Corinne Garcia: Um yeah I I thought so just for just for ease of not having to replace the batteries. Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: Um. Kimberly Peters: And how does it get uh charged up? Corinne Garcia: It's um I think it works on the basis they have some kind of ball bearings inside. It's um it's some on watches which you you kind of you shake to power it up. Somehow Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: the mechanism inside powers up through movement. Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: So you'd you'd move the remote around a little bit and then that powers it up to use it. Kimberly Peters: Okay. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: So the speech recognition was Are we going for speech recognition? No? 'Cause that required the advanced Willie Wegner: Um I think it would be helpful to find it, but Freeda Shuey: Just Willie Wegner: I don't think it'd Corinne Garcia: Uh yeah I Willie Wegner: um Corinne Garcia: think did we decide it didn't affect the circuit board, it just affected Willie Wegner: Yeah, Freeda Shuey: Just Willie Wegner: I think so. Freeda Shuey: just Corinne Garcia: It was just Freeda Shuey: for the call and Kimberly Peters: I had Freeda Shuey: find Kimberly Peters: speech Freeda Shuey: thing. Kimberly Peters: recognition requires advanced req Corinne Garcia: Oh Kimberly Peters: require Corinne Garcia: no th that's what that's what I thought, but maybe maybe it doesn't. Um Kimberly Peters: Oh. Corinne Garcia: I think I might have got that wrong. Freeda Shuey: 'Cause Kimberly Peters: So Freeda Shuey: it's s it's Kimberly Peters: okay. Freeda Shuey: separate isn't it, it's not part Kimberly Peters: Speech Freeda Shuey: of the Kimberly Peters: recognition you reckon then is Corinne Garcia: It's it's Kimberly Peters: s Corinne Garcia: just an addition thing it's Kimberly Peters: simple. Corinne Garcia: um yeah. Kimberly Peters: And so we would want it in as an extra because it doesn't appear to cost too much. Would Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Willie Wegner: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: that be Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay shall I pass Willie Wegner: I Corinne Garcia: on Willie Wegner: think Corinne Garcia: to you now? Kimberly Peters: In fact, it wouldn't really cost anymore, would it? Willie Wegner: I'll just just check what it said. Actually I don't think it really says anything about the cost, but it says that it's already in the coffee machines, so Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: like it's already kind Corinne Garcia: I assume Willie Wegner: of Corinne Garcia: it would cost extra, but Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly Kimberly Peters: And Corinne Garcia: later. Kimberly Peters: then have to change all change everything at the last minute. Okay. Willie Wegner: Um. Kimberly Peters: S Willie Wegner: Oh, that was quick. Um okay, so very brief presentation, um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute, none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there, um but there's some curved cases that you can see, uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it? Kimberly Peters: Sorry? Willie Wegner: It just seems to be skipping on without Kimberly Peters: Yeah, Willie Wegner: us doing Kimberly Peters: I've Willie Wegner: anything. Kimberly Peters: found that try and get it back. Corinne Garcia: If you right click and then go onto a previous slide. Willie Wegner: Ah it's alright. Um. Corinne Garcia: Okay, Willie Wegner: There wasn't much more to say about that, Corinne Garcia: right. Willie Wegner: just rambling. Um some of the uh remotes that I looked at, one of the models da did actually have voice recognition where you could um where it was connected to the remote control functions. And uh it was quite uh a swish model, where it can control uh four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, video, D_V_D_, audio. Um so that's a bit of competition there. So I mean maybe it's better not to try and compete with that sort of thing and just to market it as a completely different um like different viewpoint as Corinne Garcia: Yeah, Willie Wegner: a kind of Corinne Garcia: yeah. Willie Wegner: finding your lost control rather than trying to compete with the functions. Um the scroll buttons, as you've already mentioned, um there's examples of those, but they don't look as sleek as other models. And there's no real advantage and because it impacts on other Corinne Garcia: On the price, Willie Wegner: on the materials Corinne Garcia: yeah. Willie Wegner: and the price it's not great. Kimberly Peters: So Willie Wegner: Um Kimberly Peters: you were saying the scroll buttons Willie Wegner: Yeah. Th there was a specialist type of remote that we could think about, um. There was children's remote, where um they just had a very limited range of buttons and they were b uh bright and colourful and um you you could program them so that they could only look at certain channels. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Um but I don't know if that's really in our field? But Corinne Garcia: I Willie Wegner: that's Corinne Garcia: guess Willie Wegner: something Corinne Garcia: I guess Willie Wegner: that's Corinne Garcia: we're going Willie Wegner: out there. Corinne Garcia: for the biggest market, maybe not, but Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest? Kimberly Peters: Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: that wouldn't necessarily preclude The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever, and then you could have additional features in you know like a You'd have model one, model two and model three, and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: So maybe the children's remote should be like a a next step, but maybe I dunno for ours, maybe Kimberly Peters: Anyway Corinne Garcia: we should Kimberly Peters: you could add on for an extra package, but on this basic one I'm reckoning that we're going for the basic model to be discussed here and that uh you would have for future reference the possibility of adding in extra features at extra cost Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: to take Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: care of specialist market segments. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Okay. Right Kimberly Peters: Is that Willie Wegner: well that's something that we can Kimberly Peters: So so Willie Wegner: be Kimberly Peters: what Willie Wegner: aware Kimberly Peters: are we deciding Willie Wegner: of. Kimberly Peters: to do Willie Wegner: Um. Kimberly Peters: here? Willie Wegner: I think because there's already um very good voice recognition technology out there, Kimberly Peters: Right. Willie Wegner: and because ours might not cover the same functions that the leading brands do, it might Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: be a good idea to market it as a um finder function. Kimberly Peters: Uh the fi Yeah, the finder function rather than as a speech function to find Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: your remote. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: So Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: you also said for going for the international market um that some some maybe older people might not like the speech recognition. Willie Wegner: Oh Corinne Garcia: S Willie Wegner: yeah. Corinne Garcia: s so um Willie Wegner: Different languages Corinne Garcia: Yeah, Willie Wegner: might not Corinne Garcia: yeah. Willie Wegner: be compatible. Corinne Garcia: It w it would make it quite complicated, Kimberly Peters: Hmm. Corinne Garcia: where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the Willie Wegner: Hmm. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Yeah, 'cause I think you program um this one yourself, like to say Corinne Garcia: Yeah, Willie Wegner: like Corinne Garcia: yeah. Willie Wegner: whatever you want to your question. Freeda Shuey: Yeah and ours is quite a cheap device, so I don't know how much we'll be able to put into it. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: So you'd have a finder feature rather than a voice recognition feature. Willie Wegner: Hmm. Maybe Kimberly Peters: And you Willie Wegner: unless Kimberly Peters: were talking Willie Wegner: something else comes up. Kimberly Peters: Mm. And you were talking about scroll buttons? Willie Wegner: Um yeah I think um I think we've decided that it's gonna increase the cost and give Kimberly Peters: Okay. Willie Wegner: no real kinda extra Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Willie Wegner: benefit Kimberly Peters: b Willie Wegner: and it's gonna decrease from the sleekness of it. Kimberly Peters: was that Corinne Garcia: Yes Kimberly Peters: right? Corinne Garcia: yes. Willie Wegner: Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's Kimberly Peters: Okay. Willie Wegner: remote. Kimberly Peters: So not to be focused on. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down, they might both have a V_ on for volume, Um let's think how they did this. Kimberly Peters: Good in in Willie Wegner: I'm just Kimberly Peters: Flip Willie Wegner: gonna check Kimberly Peters: it round Willie Wegner: so I do Kimberly Peters: in ninety Willie Wegner: this right. Kimberly Peters: degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down. An upside-down V_. Willie Wegner: Um. Kimberly Peters: So that would show Willie Wegner: What Kimberly Peters: that Willie Wegner: did they Kimberly Peters: volume Willie Wegner: say? Kimberly Peters: was going up, whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down. Willie Wegner: Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this, to have triangular buttons, um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up, and that's the first thing that they see Kimberly Peters: Right. Willie Wegner: right, can it? Oh well, no, they might see yeah, they might see this pointing down Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: and think right that's gonna turn the volume down, whereas the actual button's pointing up, Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: so the function is to turn the button up. So, Corinne Garcia: So maybe we could have Willie Wegner: be Corinne Garcia: like Willie Wegner: careful what you put on the buttons and be careful of the shape that you make them, Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Willie Wegner: because they might be kind of two um contradicting Corinne Garcia: Yeah Willie Wegner: kind Corinne Garcia: I I Willie Wegner: of Corinne Garcia: know Willie Wegner: shapes. Corinne Garcia: what you mean. So maybe we could have volume written on the side and then up and down on the on the buttons themselves. Kimberly Peters: Yeah. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: You could have volume Corinne Garcia: Possible. Kimberly Peters: up and volume Volume up, down and Corinne Garcia: Mm. Kimberly Peters: Like that. And 'cause the idea was to have limited um it was to have sizable amount of information on it. Corinne Garcia: Yeah Kimberly Peters: Limited Corinne Garcia: yeah. Kimberly Peters: number of buttons. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: 'Cause it was sixteen buttons, wasn't it that Corinne Garcia: Yeah Kimberly Peters: were Corinne Garcia: we got it down Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: to not too many. Willie Wegner: Um and I think that's all I had to say for that. Freeda Shuey: Okay. Willie Wegner: Um so what was the decision on the um design of the volume button? Corinne Garcia: Um Are we are we gonna go through the design of all the buttons at the moment, or are we gonna Freeda Shuey: I've I've got Corinne Garcia: t Freeda Shuey: some things to say about possible design things Corinne Garcia: Yeah, Freeda Shuey: from Corinne Garcia: maybe we Willie Wegner: Oh Kimberly Peters: Okay. Corinne Garcia: should Willie Wegner: okay. Corinne Garcia: see yours Freeda Shuey: trend Corinne Garcia: first. Freeda Shuey: watching. Cool. Freeda Shuey: Right, um I've been looking at some trends in in sort of basically fashion on top of doing the um research into the remote control market the the one that's the one I talked about last time, that we'd sort of asked people about remote controls and what what was good about them, what was bad, what they used. And we've also been looking at sort of fa sort of fashions and what people are wanting out of consumer goods at the moment. So we've had people in Paris and Milan watching the uh fashion trends. Kimberly Peters: You know Freeda Shuey: So Kimberly Peters: yourself. Freeda Shuey: So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Freeda Shuey: And second, there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two, there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently, the fashion trends are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme. Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy, which is contrary to last year, apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year. So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority, so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed. And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg, or the the buttons could be spongy, uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that, we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote, say in the shape of a banana or something like that. Right, so that'll be it. Maybe a banana or courgette or something. How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends, do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget, or or you know, do they not matter that much? Willie Wegner: I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped, it might make it more complicated to use. Kimberly Peters: Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons, 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: thought Willie Wegner: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: the functionality 'cause the people get cheesed off by things by having to read instructions et cetera, so. ... Willie Wegner: Maybe just one button, say the standby button is quite kinda separate from all the other functions. Maybe that could be a little apple. And Kimberly Peters: Okay. Willie Wegner: then that Freeda Shuey: Maybe Willie Wegner: wouldn't Freeda Shuey: yeah. Willie Wegner: get in the way of like kinda one Kimberly Peters: Now? Willie Wegner: to nine, and it wouldn't confuse Kimberly Peters: Yeah. Willie Wegner: the numbers. Kimberly Peters: Stand-by button. No th that that incorporates the trend whilst at the same time not confusing people, Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: if you're looking for functionality. Corinne Garcia: Well I dunno I I guess maybe fruit and vegetables may be popular at the moment, but as we know Kimberly Peters: But Corinne Garcia: how Kimberly Peters: what Corinne Garcia: fickle Kimberly Peters: are they gonna be Corinne Garcia: the Kimberly Peters: next Corinne Garcia: fashion Kimberly Peters: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: markets Kimberly Peters: What are they Corinne Garcia: are, Kimberly Peters: gonna be Corinne Garcia: maybe Freeda Shuey: Yeah Kimberly Peters: next year. Freeda Shuey: yeah. Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: But Willie Wegner: S Kimberly Peters: but th but okay but you you can incorporate the tr If y if you change all the buttons Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: then you've got the problem that this year's fruit and veg, next year's uh I was gonna say animals or elephants Freeda Shuey: Yeah, Kimberly Peters: or w whatever. Freeda Shuey: I'm Kimberly Peters: That Freeda Shuey: not Kimberly Peters: means you're constantly changing your production schedule, and you've gotta make different Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: moulds and everything else, so that's not a good idea Freeda Shuey: I'm Kimberly Peters: I would Freeda Shuey: not I'm not Kimberly Peters: I would Freeda Shuey: sure Kimberly Peters: suggest. Freeda Shuey: what what what the sort of timescale we're thinking of selling the product over is. I don't know. Corinne Garcia: I mean it just seems realistic that the remote control market isn't the kind of thing which takes in those kinds of fashion Freeda Shuey: Yeah, Corinne Garcia: trends. Freeda Shuey: yeah. Corinne Garcia: to something which is maybe more universal. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: Well Willie Wegner: But I suppose as long as it's quite a subtle design, Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: um Corinne Garcia: We c Willie Wegner: even Corinne Garcia: maybe Willie Wegner: if Corinne Garcia: can Willie Wegner: the design Corinne Garcia: imply Willie Wegner: kind Corinne Garcia: a Willie Wegner: of Corinne Garcia: fruit Willie Wegner: changes, Corinne Garcia: shape possibly. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: Ah d d But Corinne Garcia: Maybe Kimberly Peters: if Corinne Garcia: the spongy feel is something we could think Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: about, um. Kimberly Peters: Well. Yep. Corinne Garcia: Maybe still with a rubber design we could Kimberly Peters: Was that in the sort of fashion sense that this Or was the spongy feel was that uh sort of fashion? It was, wasn't it? Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: It Kimberly Peters: So Willie Wegner: seems like you're Kimberly Peters: the Willie Wegner: gonna have rubber cases, as well as buttons. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Yeah. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: And that you can make them curved or double-curved and that would be the kind of Corinne Garcia: Oh Willie Wegner: sleek Corinne Garcia: yeah Willie Wegner: and sexy Corinne Garcia: yeah one of Willie Wegner: look. Corinne Garcia: the things were if you had rubber buttons then you had to have a rubber case. Kimberly Peters: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Oh Corinne Garcia: Um Willie Wegner: right, that Corinne Garcia: oh Willie Wegner: fits, Corinne Garcia: no no Willie Wegner: doesn't Corinne Garcia: no sorry Willie Wegner: it? Corinne Garcia: it's if you use the uh rubber double curved case then you must use rubber buttons. That's the way round. If you have the rubber case then you have to have the rubber buttons to go with it. Which makes sense. Willie Wegner: Right. Corinne Garcia: Um. Kimberly Peters: Rubber buttons require rubber case. Willie Wegner: And that would fit in with what we want, wouldn't it, for the Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: spongy feel, to have everything rubber. Kimberly Peters: Uh so, yeah. The m the main problem is how f how frequently do the fashions change? 'Cause in essence in the production you want things to stay you want Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: to basically mint them out 'cause if you've got fashion changes and that you're incorporating, then it means that your stock is um is Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: last year's stock and therefore you're selling it or having to sell it at a discounted rate which you wouldn't want Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: to do. Whereas if you kept the product the same but you could have a difference from year to year, uh it seems to Freeda Shuey that you could Freeda Shuey: Okay. Kimberly Peters: incorporate a fashion statement if you like, rather than changing the whole kit and caboodle. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: You're just changing one aspect like like the standby button or something like that, and especially 'cause then you could make it something that Corinne Garcia: I suppose we maybe Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: are limited in the fact that we still have to put the logo on the actual Kimberly Peters: Well, Corinne Garcia: would Kimberly Peters: you might Corinne Garcia: or Kimberly Peters: be limited Corinne Garcia: not. Kimberly Peters: in space, that yes. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: Well Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: you two are obviously gonna find that out fairly quickly when you move over to your kit modelling stage as Corinne Garcia: Yes Kimberly Peters: to uh Corinne Garcia: yes. Kimberly Peters: how much pl how much how much how pliable is Plasticine. Corinne Garcia: Maybe we could think of the the cases like changing with the fashions like the Nokia phones where you could take the casing off the outside. But Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: whether that would be too much to incorporate in production, whether that would just increase Kimberly Peters: Hmm. Corinne Garcia: the costs, make it more complicated. Freeda Shuey: That's Kimberly Peters: So Freeda Shuey: possibly Kimberly Peters: you're talking Freeda Shuey: it. Kimberly Peters: there about uh changing changing the casing. Corinne Garcia: Yeah the a the actual the sort of the look from the outside, so where the buttons would stay the same, and Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: the general function of the remote would stay the same, but you could change the the way it looked. Willie Wegner: Yeah and then you could have Oh but you still would have to have the logo on every new case, Corinne Garcia: Yeah, that's Willie Wegner: but you could have Corinne Garcia: true. Willie Wegner: like pink cases for girls and Kimberly Peters: Yeah Willie Wegner: red Kimberly Peters: you Willie Wegner: ones Kimberly Peters: you could Willie Wegner: and Kimberly Peters: do a Willie Wegner: things Kimberly Peters: colour Willie Wegner: like Kimberly Peters: change, so therefore Willie Wegner: that. Kimberly Peters: you would yeah yeah I mean that's effectively what they did with the with the mobile phones, was Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: to have some in blue, some in red, some in rather Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: than all in black or, you know, which Willie Wegner: Hmm. Kimberly Peters: four do you want, as long as it's black? But uh so Corinne Garcia: So it is a possibility, um. Willie Wegner: But we are supposed to use the um company colour scheme, aren't we? We haven't Kimberly Peters: Yes Corinne Garcia: Oh Willie Wegner: really Corinne Garcia: okay Willie Wegner: seen Kimberly Peters: oh that's Willie Wegner: that yet Kimberly Peters: true Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: yes Kimberly Peters: uh Corinne Garcia: that Kimberly Peters: that Corinne Garcia: is Willie Wegner: It Kimberly Peters: might Willie Wegner: might Kimberly Peters: no Willie Wegner: and we might be able to do both but it might clash with certain things. Kimberly Peters: Well not necessarily, because you could have your company uh We're we're meant to be finishing up. You could have your company badge and logo. I mean a lot of um computers for instance like like on the one you've got Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: there, it actually has a sort of um stick on badge so what you would al all you would really need, whether it, you know, whether the casing be w any colour, could be any colour, but that badge would then have to stick out on top of it so that uh in a Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: sense, with a with a logo like that, because it's on a white background, the only colour that it might not stick out so well on would be a white casing. 'Cause you Corinne Garcia: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: you know you're sort of you're badging it. And in fact a lot of companies get somebody else to make them and literally just badge them themselves with Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: their own uh badge over the top. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: And in fact the way they've got that there even if you had that on a white, which is the predominant colour of the uh the Windows badge, you'd still be able to see it clearly from Corinne Garcia: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: you know a white casing Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: uh product. So. Willie Wegner: Hmm. Corinne Garcia: And whether we'd have a big enough market to have this kind of like secondary market of selling the cases might be something to consider. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Well if it's for young people, um Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: like the phone generation, that sort of Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Willie Wegner: thing'd probably go down well, and the market research has been on that side of things, hasn't it? Freeda Shuey: Yeah, I mean it's people say that it's the look, they want the fancy looking thing but I'm Yeah. I'm not convinced on whether having changeable covers would be something that people would buy into. I think with the mobiles, it's the, you know it's a communication device, people see you with it all about and Corinne Garcia: Yeah I suppose, Freeda Shuey: i if Corinne Garcia: where you Freeda Shuey: it Corinne Garcia: you keep the remote hidden Kimberly Peters: It's Corinne Garcia: under Kimberly Peters: uh in Corinne Garcia: the sofa Kimberly Peters: in the Corinne Garcia: most Kimberly Peters: house, Corinne Garcia: of the time. Kimberly Peters: isn't it, Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: I suppose. Freeda Shuey: I Willie Wegner: Okay, Freeda Shuey: think Willie Wegner: so if we just went for one colour of a rubber case Kimberly Peters: So Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: don't change case. Change case colour. And we're sort of saying no to that. Willie Wegner: Did we decide on the rubber case? The spongy feel, or did we think that that might go as a trend? Freeda Shuey: Well, it was different last year. The trend was different last year apparently. It was not not spongy feel. But I don't know whether the trend will change. I don't know whether it's one of those things that like sort of having all fruit shaped keys, that that probably would go out of fashion very quickly, whereas Kimberly Peters: Yeah. Freeda Shuey: just the fact that it was a rubber case is probably less less of Corinne Garcia: Yeah, Freeda Shuey: something Corinne Garcia: less likely Freeda Shuey: that Corinne Garcia: to Kimberly Peters: Sounds Freeda Shuey: y Kimberly Peters: reasonable. Freeda Shuey: you're gonna end up hating in a year, you know. Corinne Garcia: So then Kimberly Peters: If Corinne Garcia: th th that Kimberly Peters: you're going Corinne Garcia: would Kimberly Peters: for fashion trends like that they'll need t you'd have to have interchangeable cases so that you could or Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: 'cause otherwise someone's Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: gonna have to buy a complete new remote rather than just a case. Freeda Shuey: Mm. Corinne Garcia: it seems to make sense that we we'd just maybe stick with the standard rubber case, and then have the standard rubber buttons as well. Kimberly Peters: Okay. Freeda Shuey: Okay. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: Uh we haven't really talked about uh the curvature of the case. There's flat, there's single-curved and there's double-curved. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: I'm Corinne Garcia: Mayb Willie Wegner: not exactly sure Corinne Garcia: Maybe Willie Wegner: what Corinne Garcia: curves Willie Wegner: these things look Corinne Garcia: give Willie Wegner: like. Corinne Garcia: it like the slightly more aesthetic feel? But the double curve wouldn't require us to perform miracles with the Plasticine. Willie Wegner: Well it says that Freeda Shuey: When you say d when you say double-curved, what what exactly does that mean? Willie Wegner: I'm not exactly sure. Freeda Shuey: Okay. Willie Wegner: Um I'll show you the remotes that I've got. See how uh Let's just get that bigger. See how uh the one Oh I'm not plugged Freeda Shuey: No you're Willie Wegner: in, am Freeda Shuey: not Willie Wegner: I? Freeda Shuey: connected Willie Wegner: That doesn't Freeda Shuey: to Freeda Shuey Willie Wegner: help. Freeda Shuey: anymore. Kimberly Peters: One one thing to Willie Wegner: Shall Kimberly Peters: cons Willie Wegner: I just turn it round for time? Kimberly Peters: one thing to consider is that in some ways you want um Freeda Shuey: That should come up. Kimberly Peters: by having a fairly standard case it means they can all fit together on top of each other therefore for storage purposes in shops and the like and it makes it easier that you can if you can Freeda Shuey: Mm. Kimberly Peters: store them up on top Corinne Garcia: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Peters: of each other. Whereas if you do um fancy things with it, you then gotta put it in a ca a a packaging box that that does that. And the cost of packaging could be quite important vis-a-vis the total cost of the product. Corinne Garcia: Yeah yeah. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Willie Wegner: Hmm. Corinne Garcia: So shall we go through quickly and just work out what we've decide on, if we have to kind Kimberly Peters: So Corinne Garcia: of Kimberly Peters: but Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Willie Wegner: Um it's not very clear up there, but you Kimberly Peters: No. Willie Wegner: can see some of them have got kind of bulges, like Kimberly Peters: Mm Willie Wegner: the second Kimberly Peters: yep. Willie Wegner: one and the end one Freeda Shuey: Right. Willie Wegner: uh where there's a curve there. I'm not exactl I don't know if a double curve is maybe it comes up slightly, Freeda Shuey: That's Willie Wegner: or? Freeda Shuey: what I was trying to work out. Willie Wegner: But um Kimberly Peters: Oh right. Willie Wegner: it is a kinda sleeker look if you've got curves in there. Freeda Shuey: Shall we Kimberly Peters: S so do you wanna go for curves, more curves? We're meant Willie Wegner: Definitely Kimberly Peters: to be f Willie Wegner: a single, Kimberly Peters: we're meant to Willie Wegner: maybe Kimberly Peters: be finishing Willie Wegner: a double. Kimberly Peters: this meeting in about a minute or so. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay, so Willie Wegner: Shall Corinne Garcia: shall Willie Wegner: we Corinne Garcia: we Willie Wegner: go for Corinne Garcia: quickly Willie Wegner: single curve, just to compromise? Corinne Garcia: We'll go for single curve, yeah. Freeda Shuey: Okay. Kimberly Peters: Okay, Corinne Garcia: Single curve. Kimberly Peters: curved or double curved? So it's single curved. Corinne Garcia: So did we did we decide on the kinetic power supply? The Freeda Shuey: Yeah I think Corinne Garcia: one Willie Wegner: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: you move Freeda Shuey: that Corinne Garcia: around? Freeda Shuey: think that's a Kimberly Peters: Yep. Freeda Shuey: good Corinne Garcia: Okay. Freeda Shuey: idea. Corinne Garcia: Um Willie Wegner: And the rubber push buttons, Freeda Shuey: Rubber Willie Wegner: rubber case. Freeda Shuey: Rubber buttons and case. Willie Wegner: Um and we don't really know much about the colour scheme or logo yet do we, but Corinne Garcia: Oh we Willie Wegner: possibly Corinne Garcia: ca Willie Wegner: a sticker. Corinne Garcia: Yeah yeah, we'll still have the Are we gonna go for the simple circuit board just to keep the cost down? I th I think we can by Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: by not having anything too complicated. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: Yeah and and the voice recognition, we can use that can't we, just to find it. Freeda Shuey: Yeah Willie Wegner: Without Kimberly Peters: Yes. Corinne Garcia: Um. Freeda Shuey: yeah. Willie Wegner: affecting the circuit board. Kimberly Peters: Yep. Corinne Garcia: And see we could always decide against it if something comes up that's just something to that we seemed to leave out. Freeda Shuey: And then are we going for sort of one button shaped like a fruit. Willie Wegner: Yeah that Freeda Shuey: Or Willie Wegner: sounds Freeda Shuey: veg. Willie Wegner: like it wouldn't do too much harm in a couple of years. Uh what sort of shape do we want? Freeda Shuey: Don't know, maybe Kimberly Peters: So Freeda Shuey: just Kimberly Peters: we've got spongy feel buttons as well, have we? As well as or Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: w or was that Freeda Shuey: That's ru rubber buttons, yeah. Corinne Garcia: Yeah, it was Kimberly Peters: So Corinne Garcia: just Kimberly Peters: it's rubber buttons, so it's not really spongy feel buttons, it's just rubber buttons. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: With a rubber Willie Wegner: Yeah, Freeda Shuey: Reasonably Kimberly Peters: case Willie Wegner: so it's Freeda Shuey: spongy Willie Wegner: not Kimberly Peters: right? Willie Wegner: too wacky. Freeda Shuey: I guess, yeah. Kimberly Peters: And the standby button is gonna be different. Freeda Shuey: Yeah okay. Willie Wegner: Um I think an apple would be a good recognisable shape. If you start getting into kinda aubergines and things, it gets a bit weird. Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: Okay so what what shape are we making the standby button? Freeda Shuey: Apple? Willie Wegner: Vote? Kimberly Peters: A apple. Oh oh Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Kimberly Peters: Sorry? Willie Wegner: Shall we vote on it? Freeda Shuey: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: We will go Willie Wegner: Anyone Corinne Garcia: for the a Willie Wegner: got Corinne Garcia: a Willie Wegner: any Freeda Shuey: Apple Corinne Garcia: a Willie Wegner: suggestions? Corinne Garcia: apples Freeda Shuey: apple Corinne Garcia: apples. Freeda Shuey: a Willie Wegner: Right. Freeda Shuey: a qu Quite a big one, as well. Willie Wegner: Okay. Ah. Freeda Shuey: A big apple. Uh Willie Wegner: Well it could be red. Freeda Shuey: Could be a red apple, yeah. Either, don't mind. Kimberly Peters: A red apple? Willie Wegner: Yeah Kimberly Peters: Is it? Willie Wegner: 'cause we wanna incorporate a bit of colour if we can, once we find out Corinne Garcia: Okay. Willie Wegner: um Corinne Garcia: And then we're gonna are you gonna work on keeping the button design quite simple? Just like the Just working out what we're gonna do for the next time. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Corinne Garcia: Um. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Yeah that seems pretty straight forward. Corinne Garcia: Yeah. Willie Wegner: 'Cause most of them will just be kind of mainly circular or like very plain. Corinne Garcia: 'Kay. Freeda Shuey: Mm-hmm. Okay. Kimberly Peters: Sorry what was that last thing again there? Willie Wegner: Uh just to keep the shape of the buttons simple. Kimberly Peters: Right much option on that. I thought you were going for a single curve and Willie Wegner: Ah just the uh shape of the buttons. Kimberly Peters: Alright. Corinne Garcia: And j yeah, just keeping the sort of the labelling them labelling of them fairly simple as well. Willie Wegner: Yeah. Corinne Garcia: Fairly sort of self explanatory. Kimberly Peters: Right, so shape of buttons simple. Kimberly Peters: Okay. So that's that, I guess. We should now go away and get these things sorted out. I guess you two are on plasticine duty or whatever. Corinne Garcia: Okay. Kimberly Peters: Okay, so um. Corinne Garcia: Is that the end? Okay. Freeda Shuey: Looks like it. Kimberly Peters: Okay.	Kimberly Peters reviewed the minutes from the last meeting. Corinne Garcia discussed options for each of the internal components. He showed that the size of the chip was dependent on the type and number of additional features used. The group discussed incorporating speech recognition and other functions to be able to decide on chip size. They decided that using speech recognition for the locator function only would allow them to use a simple chip. Willie Wegner presented several existing products. She presented a specialized children's remote; the group decided to focus on a basic remote that would appeal to a wide market. She expressed that buttons are often ambiguously shaped and that their remote must have an easy-to-use interface. Freeda Shuey presented trends in the remote control market and the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. The group discussed ways to incorporate these trends. They decided to make the standby button shaped like an apple, to use a rubber case and buttons, and to use a single-curved shape. Kimberly Peters instructed Willie Wegner and Corinne Garcia to construct the prototype.	4	amisum	train
Gladys Chavez: So is Why not save that. Rita Leeman: No, you'll ha have to open it up from elsewhere. Gladys Chavez: Do you want to replace existing file, no. I actually tried to transfer it to My Documents, but Rita Leeman: Yeah, you have to you have to close that window. 'Cause that's the save one isn't it, so And then find it. Gladys Chavez: spreadsheet. Gladys Chavez: Yeah, but I've ta uh right, I'll just re-do it. That's the easiest way. Gladys Chavez: Right. Cathy Crigger: Well we've made our prototype anyway. We can have a good look at that. Rita Leeman: You pass it round to have a look. Cathy Crigger: Mm-hmm. Y no, it's a slightly curved around the sides. Rita Leeman: Mm very nice. Cathy Crigger: Um, it's almost curved like up to the main display as well. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: And the little line at the bottom indicates the bit the panel that you pull down. And the extra function buttons are below that panel Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: on the little line. And we've got the stick on the button with the company logo on. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: We also have a apple slash cherry design at the top. Rita Leeman: So it is, yeah. Cherry would be alright actually. Yeah. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, it's bit more fun, isn't it? And it's kinda not really at a kind of you think apple, you think computers, like Apple Anna Pratt: Yeah, Cathy Crigger: Mac. Anna Pratt: yeah, we might get a Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Copyright, yeah. What's this Cathy Crigger: Yeah, Rita Leeman: this Cathy Crigger: and cherries Rita Leeman: one? Cathy Crigger: are fun, summery. Rita Leeman: What's that one there? Cathy Crigger: Ah, that's the mute. Rita Leeman: Oh, okay. Anna Pratt: For the M_. Rita Leeman: Right. Cathy Crigger: It it'd probably have to be labelled mute. But Anna Pratt: They're Cathy Crigger: um, Anna Pratt: thinking Cathy Crigger: we didn't have anything small enough to write. Rita Leeman: Okay. Anna Pratt: For the first time, well it was hard to get the h um the actual labelling on the individual buttons. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Uh, we just chose simple shapes for all them. Um, the important ones are the volume ones. So we made them a bit bigger. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: The mute could possibly be a bit smaller. Anna Pratt: Hum, you separate off in colour the volume related buttons from the channel related buttons, so you've got the volume in orange on Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: design there, and the the channel is in blue. Cathy Crigger: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: R right. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, and we chose Gladys Chavez: Um, Cathy Crigger: a V_ Gladys Chavez: all Cathy Crigger: plus Gladys Chavez: these things Cathy Crigger: and V_ minus. Gladys Chavez: have cost implications. And when I done my cost a I had assumed the only uh button that would be a different colour would be the uh the red apple button. So However, I've now. But um, yeah so uh but there Rita Leeman: I'll see if I can find them. Gladys Chavez: would be a cost implication on that, and uh as I suppose that so whether wanted to put in all these colours, would be uh Anna Pratt: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: open Anna Pratt: sis Gladys Chavez: to debate, I suppose. Cathy Crigger: Well Rita Leeman: Have Cathy Crigger: the colours wouldn't like that's they wouldn't be too important, but we didn't have any white Play-Doh. So that's Gladys Chavez: An Cathy Crigger: where the colour buttons came from. Gladys Chavez: important consideration. Right, okay so um And the second one underneath would be the idea for the Anna Pratt: Yes, we'll have the slide-away. Gladys Chavez: Right, okay. Anna Pratt: Bottom. Gladys Chavez: So we've got um detail design meeting. Right. So So, we've got prototype presentation, which we've just done, evaluation criteria, um and finance, so I guess w we have to evaluate if that meets the various uh aspects that we're looking for uh from Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: um our previous meeting. So Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: other than the fact that it doesn't have the second layer, Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: but um obviously obviously it would. But other than that, we got the red apple. We got the buttons and the only thing that has really changed is the is the colouration of the buttons, Anna Pratt: Yes, yes. Gladys Chavez: and the bit after the evaluation criteria is uh is the finance. Rita Leeman: Right. Anna Pratt: Okay. Gladys Chavez: And the and the cost implication. The only snag about this is that uh the cost is probably kind of important. So um, and then the production evaluation, as to how easy that would be to uh to manufacture. Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: Um, and whether it would uh Rita Leeman: So if you had to do a presentation or will you just work it on the prototype? Cathy Crigger: Uh, Anna Pratt: This this is Cathy Crigger: that's Anna Pratt: a yes, this Rita Leeman: That's Anna Pratt: is our presentation Rita Leeman: the pr Cathy Crigger: it. Anna Pratt: of the prototype. Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: Right, so uh as far as the the finance of it would be concern would be to make sure that the cost aye the production cost 'cause you may remember that was one of the first uh considerations was to be in d under um uh twelve fifty or two and a half Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: uh twelve and a half Euros. So, there's no redesign. So that should uh Right, so, seems to Rita Leeman that the thing that I have to do is is quickly find that uh Anna Pratt: Could we get this on the board just so we can see or do you mean do you have the figures there? Rita Leeman: we should plug it in. Gladys Chavez: Right. Rita Leeman: Do you wanna plu do you wanna plug it in into the the Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: back of that one. Anna Pratt: 'Kay, Alice. So, Rita Leeman: We could do it as Anna Pratt: sh Rita Leeman: we d go along, the production costs, looking at the prototype. Gladys Chavez: Right. Anna Pratt: 'Kay this should be then. Gladys Chavez: Okay, so, by the fact that we've got uh the simple chip and the uh kinetic energy source, we've got a single curved case. We've got a rubber uh case materials supplements. So, Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: we had decided that we're having rubber buttons and Anna Pratt: Have a push button interface. Gladys Chavez: Okay. W Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: the button supplements. Well, originally, I thought there would just be uh one in there because it was the one red apple. Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: But So the so the real w the real question then would come in. Do you make all the buttons Rita Leeman: Well do we'll do it Gladys Chavez: O Rita Leeman: on the prototype, so do two, see how much it is. Gladys Chavez: Well, so we've got one special button form, which was the apple. Everything Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: else Anna Pratt: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: is gonna be a standard. Anna Pratt: And then we'd Gladys Chavez: We've Anna Pratt: have Gladys Chavez: got special material, rubber, wood, titanium, et cetera and that, so, Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: I was originally, I was thinking rubber wasn't special, but according to this, maybe it is. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: So And the r I mean effectively we've got sixteen buttons that we're gonna have on there. Rita Leeman: Yeah. I think you just do one, don't you, for the Gladys Chavez: W I don't know is is is the sort of answer, is that meant to be all sixteen buttons, and therefore I mean, what's the op The option was maybe not to have rubber buttons, but just to have the one that was soft and spongy, and therefore Rita Leeman: I think I think it's just it's just a one. Else Gladys Chavez: Whereas it would be the special colour would be for the So you would only have the one special button that was rubber, whereas the rest would be hard plastic. Rita Leeman: I thi I think I think the button supplement i is just a supplement for all the buttons made in a different material, rather than per button. Gladys Chavez: Mm. Rita Leeman: I don't know though. Gladys Chavez: I would Every design change is uh Rita Leeman: Hmm. Gladys Chavez: I dunno, um Okay, um, if we just had all the buttons as standard, except for the one red apple, then that would take care of that, I guess. We'd have one special colour and one special button form. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: And when I plugged that in last time remember it has to be under twelve and a half. As far as I know, that um that took care of the uh of the various supplements. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: And if What happened? Rita Leeman: You've just gone off the window into another one. It's on the bottom row. Cathy Crigger: Maybe if you just minimise that one in the top right-hand corner of the little box. Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Now, right. Okay, so, but the point would be that if we uh if we just did special Sorry, you were saying that it would be that one, that you would put in one there. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Okay. Anna Pratt: So that's nine point one there so we've got some Gladys Chavez: So it Well, is it s is no, it's nine point seven I've got. Anna Pratt: 'Kay. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: Okay. Anna Pratt: Just give us a bit of Gladys Chavez: So, that would that would work out fine if uh Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: uh as assuming your correction are are assuming that that one change covers all the buttons, then that would be fine. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: And there's Cathy Crigger: S Gladys Chavez: nothing else as far as I can see that we we had uh planned to put Anna Pratt: I switching Gladys Chavez: on. Anna Pratt: around those th um on the electronics we got the sample sensor. At the moment we've just got the simple chip, which costs one. Um, I Gladys Chavez: Uh-huh. Anna Pratt: guess the sample sens sample speaker would be the voice recognition thing, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: which puts up to four? We should be slightly over our budget but if we gather something else down to slightly lower standard, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: and maybe go with the one the special form buttons, then we could have Gladys Chavez: Well, Anna Pratt: the Gladys Chavez: hold Anna Pratt: speech Gladys Chavez: on. if we Okay, that gives us twelve point seven Anna Pratt: So uh maybe if we got rid of like the maybe one of the special colours, kept them all the same colour, then we could have the voice recognition Gladys Chavez: But remember Anna Pratt: without Gladys Chavez: that the idea was to keep it the colour of the Oh, I see, so just take out the special colour for the apple and Anna Pratt: Yeah, yeah. Cathy Crigger: Um, D Anna Pratt: Um Cathy Crigger: wouldn't you have to keep the simple chip there as well? You know how you turn that one to a zero, wouldn't the chip and the Rita Leeman: Yeah, we have to have Cathy Crigger: sample Rita Leeman: it Cathy Crigger: speaker be separate things, Anna Pratt: Oh Cathy Crigger: so you Anna Pratt: possibly, Cathy Crigger: need both Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: of them? Anna Pratt: yeah, yeah maybe. Maybe um we'd be giving up on the kinetic. Um Gladys Chavez: And go Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: for battery instead. That would give Anna Pratt: We should Gladys Chavez: you one less. Anna Pratt: Yeah, that would save us one, though we'd still be slightly Gladys Chavez: But you Anna Pratt: ov Gladys Chavez: reckon that i I mean the thing is that you wanted to a appeal to people and not have to replace batteries. Anna Pratt: Yeah, yeah. Well, since it's the through the whole technology type thing, um, you were saying in the market research that people like kind of interesting gadgets in them. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: Um, whether they would figure the the s uh sample senor and the sample speaker, voice recognition be sort of a worthwhile thing to have. And then still Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: have the batteries, or whatever they would prefer not uh You know what I mean? The the problem was the battery's Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: running out and losing the um Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: losing the remote. So you gotta decide which of those is more important to them. Gladys Chavez: But which do you think or which do we think is the more important of the options? Cathy Crigger: I think the Gladys Chavez: In Cathy Crigger: voice Gladys Chavez: a sense, Cathy Crigger: recognition. Gladys Chavez: at the moment, we've got a total which we need to reduce down by one point two. At least. Remember that was a minimum requirement. The other option if we're planning on just going for something cheap and cheerful, would be to um make it originally, we're gonna make it a simple Rita Leeman: Shall Anna Pratt: Yeah. Rita Leeman: we Gladys Chavez: product. Rita Leeman: shall we evaluate the prototype as we've got it now first, and then sort of make decisions about what needs to be changed after? Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Makes Rita Leeman: Okay. Anna Pratt: Okay. Gladys Chavez: sense. Rita Leeman: Right um, I have a little thing. So, we've all got a note of it's thirteen point seven, isn't it, with everything we want on. Gladys Chavez: Sorry, do you want that Rita Leeman: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: back Rita Leeman: I Gladys Chavez: up? Rita Leeman: just had a presentation to Gladys Chavez: Right. Rita Leeman: do. Cathy Crigger: But I do think uh the v uh voice recognition thing would be more impressive than the fact that it's got no battery. Gladys Chavez: Okay, but remember the main the only reason we were planning on having the voice recognition was so that they could find the remote if it got lost. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Mm. Right okay um, This is about the evaluation criteria that we use for the the prototype we've got here. And so the method is that the design team makes a prototype, and we evaluate the prototype against some criteria that we've formulated. And those ones are gonna be in response to sort of market research, and also finance, I guess. And do that on a scale from say true being one and false being seven, so if it's neither true nor false, then that's four. Rita Leeman: So, I got a set of criteria just based on the marketing that we need to add in a financial one as well, at the end. Um so, We have to say whether it's true or false that the product looks and feels fancy. Um The whether the product demonstrates technical innovation. Whether it's easy to use. Whether it's incorporating sort of the fashion element to attract the buyer. And whether it's a sort of recognisable Real Reaction product. And I have to go up onto the whiteboard and do this apparently, Anna Pratt: Okay. Rita Leeman: so I'll go over here. Rita Leeman: Right. So the first one is um, does the product look and feel fancy. So if we do a sort of a one So Anna Pratt: Okay, well we have a single curve, which was maybe like the Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: feel of the product's quite good. So Rita Leeman: Okay. Anna Pratt: uh Um, then we have the rubber kinda spongy feel, which was Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: in at the time. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Um, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: sorry that'd be considered fancy. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, I'd maybe give it a a two. Rita Leeman: Of but I think What Is one false, or is t one true? I forgot. Cathy Crigger: One's true. Rita Leeman: One's true, and okay. Seven's Cathy Crigger: And a Rita Leeman: fal Cathy Crigger: four is neutral. Rita Leeman: Four is neutral, okay. So Anna Pratt: So maybe maybe a two. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, 'cause we haven't got the double curve, so we can't like Gladys Chavez: Go Cathy Crigger: say it's Gladys Chavez: for Rita Leeman: Right. Cathy Crigger: completely Gladys Chavez: one. Cathy Crigger: true. But Gladys Chavez: Yep. Cathy Crigger: it's pretty close. We've got almost everything we can. Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: Right. I gonna put underneath so I've got some more space. So, false is seven, true is one, and So uh say about a two for fancy, Anna Pratt: Yeah. Rita Leeman: you Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Rita Leeman: think? Okay. Gladys Chavez: Yeah, why not not, m m maybe nearer three. Rita Leeman: Okay, well d you do Gladys Chavez: Two Rita Leeman: an average Gladys Chavez: three. Rita Leeman: at the end, I don't know. Um Gladys Chavez: Well, it's just that uh saying something remember that when you look down, we've got solar power, we've got uh various other things you could have, Rita Leeman: Uh-huh. Gladys Chavez: and we're not going for Rita Leeman: This Gladys Chavez: these Rita Leeman: this Gladys Chavez: options. Rita Leeman: is just this is just for like the look. Does it sort of look Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Rita Leeman: fancy rather than functional. So Cathy Crigger: Yeah, I suppose that might be in the technical innovation bit. Rita Leeman: Yeah, so that so sh should we go for a a two on that? Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: 'Kay. And I mean, how much does the product demonstrate technical innovation do Anna Pratt: Um, Rita Leeman: you reckon? Anna Pratt: deciding between the kinetic power or um the speech recognition, and if we had either of those for our budget, they both show a reasonable Rita Leeman: D Anna Pratt: amount Rita Leeman: yeah. Anna Pratt: of speech recognition. Rita Leeman: Okay. So, what about the pr The prototype as it is, Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: we've got we've got the speech recognition on it, haven't we. Anna Pratt: But not the kinetic. Rita Leeman: But not the kinetic. Anna Pratt: Like the power. Gladys Chavez: No. 'Cause you can't afford that w we Anna Pratt: No, Gladys Chavez: took Anna Pratt: we c Gladys Chavez: that out Anna Pratt: ca Gladys Chavez: too. Anna Pratt: yeah, we can't afford both. Rita Leeman: Alright, Gladys Chavez: Didn't Rita Leeman: so Gladys Chavez: you? Or Rita Leeman: So it doesn't It's pretty The prototype as it is isn't sort of um fulfilling the Anna Pratt: No may is maybe about Cathy Crigger: Maybe Anna Pratt: neutral Cathy Crigger: a three. Anna Pratt: plus it it it's got something, but it hasn't got Rita Leeman: Okay. Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Well, wait a minute. In Cathy Crigger: I Gladys Chavez: thirteen Cathy Crigger: would give Gladys Chavez: point Cathy Crigger: it Gladys Chavez: seven Cathy Crigger: more than Gladys Chavez: we Cathy Crigger: a four. Gladys Chavez: do have kinetic. The problem is we have to reduce down from there to Anna Pratt: Right. Gladys Chavez: get it down to twelve point five. Anna Pratt: Okay. Gladys Chavez: And one way of doing that would be to take out the kinetic. So, it's very much dependant on what you do with your options. Rita Leeman: Right, Gladys Chavez: And Rita Leeman: okay. Gladys Chavez: if Anna Pratt: 'Kay. Gladys Chavez: you're definitely going for the sample sensor and sample speaker, then because that the other functions we've got in are are more at the The special material, the rubber, wood, titanium, et cetera, if you go for that, th that's at the high end 'cause that's point six, whereas down at uh just special colours uh is point two. Now you're trying to lose one point two, so it seems to Rita Leeman that if you're going for the sample sensors speaker, you're basically then having to go for the cheaper options on everything else. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: Okay. Gladys Chavez: And Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: and the simple way to do it would be to have a battery, to have your uh sample sensor speaker, and then you're looking to uh take out Rita Leeman: S Gladys Chavez: uh point two, Rita Leeman: I'm just gonna check my email. Gladys Chavez: which would be come from the button supplements category. Rita Leeman: I'm just gonna check exactly what it said in the email for um the product. Cathy Crigger: How much of a difference would it make if we made the case in plastic? Because we did say that we don't wanna follow the fashion too much. If the buttons are rubber that might be spongy enough. And then it Gladys Chavez: Um, Cathy Crigger: stand the Gladys Chavez: interface Cathy Crigger: test of time better. Gladys Chavez: type um, well plastic rather than rubber. Rita Leeman: Okay. But I Gladys Chavez: That that that would make the significant difference. You could either you could have it If you have a in plastic rather than rubber, then that would uh enable you to get you could keep kinetic then, you could keep your sample sensor, and you'd be looking to take out point two. So you could uh fiddle that down your special form at the bottom, or your special colour at the bottom. Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: And that would enable you to to do it. Rita Leeman: Okay. Anna Pratt: So it says if we make a slightly more fancy, then we lose points innovation, and if we make it more innovative innovative, Gladys Chavez: Yeah. Anna Pratt: then we lose Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: points on Gladys Chavez: Ye Anna Pratt: it being fancy, so Rita Leeman: I just read the email again and it sort of says it's evaluate the design sort of as it is, I think, so I think we need to think about finance after we've sort of evaluated that design. I don't know whether we're doing it in the wrong order or something or. Gladys Chavez: Well, okay, but Cathy Crigger: Well, I suppose it's rubber as it is, isn't it. Gladys Chavez: It's rubber as it is, yes. Rita Leeman: bit or something, 'cause we've got both the both the um Gladys Chavez: We Rita Leeman: the Gladys Chavez: got we've Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Rita Leeman: speech Gladys Chavez: we've got thirteen point seven and we've got it in at the moment and if Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: and basically, we're going to reduce down from that. But the current one, you'd say would be fancy, would be too Anna Pratt: Yeah, yeah. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Um, for for innovation, so we've got the speech the speech thing, and Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. I would've said about a two as well. Rita Leeman: Do you reckon a two? Cathy Crigger: Yeah, two or three. I'd be happy with a two. Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: Oh. Rita Leeman: Two. And the next one is I'll have to get it back up now. Gladys Chavez: The next on Well, I can just sing about. Easy to use. I would've said yes. I would go for a one on that at this point in time. Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Rita Leeman: Okay. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, I would say so as well. Gladys Chavez: Um, incorporates elements of fashion to attract buyer. Well, Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: yeah it certainly has some. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, it's got the cherry Anna Pratt: It does, yeah. Cathy Crigger: and the Rita Leeman: Um Cathy Crigger: sponginess. Gladys Chavez: Yep. Rita Leeman: Say about a three maybe? Gladys Chavez: I don't know. Anna Pratt: Yeah, Cathy Crigger: Maybe Anna Pratt: m um Cathy Crigger: two? Anna Pratt: Yeah, it was just doing it quite well. Um, I Gladys Chavez: Yep. Anna Pratt: think we're gonna have to lose some of these, but the moment, as it stands, it's um Gladys Chavez: Yeah, I Rita Leeman: It's Gladys Chavez: woulda Rita Leeman: a Gladys Chavez: said Rita Leeman: two. Gladys Chavez: two would seem reasonable. The product is a recognisable real r uh Rita Leeman: Yeah, this Gladys Chavez: reaction Rita Leeman: is Gladys Chavez: product? Anna Pratt: Uh Rita Leeman: This Anna Pratt: the sensor using all of its all of its products, all of its buttons, and it's got a fairly big label on the bottom saying Cathy Crigger: Yeah, that's Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: where Cathy Crigger: a bit Anna Pratt: it Cathy Crigger: rough Anna Pratt: comes Cathy Crigger: at the minute. Anna Pratt: from. Rita Leeman: So this is about sort of the corporate Gladys Chavez: Oh. Rita Leeman: image of like new sort of sleek technology and all that sort of thing, as well Anna Pratt: Okay. Rita Leeman: as having the logo on and all that. So sort of Is it sort of a recognisable product. Does it fit in with our other other products, which uh are sort of coffee makers and spacecraft. Cathy Crigger: Uh, Rita Leeman: What Cathy Crigger: well Gladys Chavez: S Rita Leeman: do Cathy Crigger: it's Rita Leeman: y Cathy Crigger: got the same um speech feature as the coffee machine. Anna Pratt: Also it's kind of spongy rubberiness is maybe bit more kinda comfortable than kinda sleek and new Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: age. Um, Rita Leeman: Uh-huh. Anna Pratt: it depends which way you look at it. Gladys Chavez: Okay. So Rita Leeman: So Gladys Chavez: we're going for a Anna Pratt: Maybe a kind of Gladys Chavez: two, Anna Pratt: three? Uh d Rita Leeman: Two Gladys Chavez: three? Cathy Crigger: Yeah, Rita Leeman: or three? Cathy Crigger: two or three. Well, the logo would be more um recognisable on the actual thing. It's just that the pen wouldn't really write on that paper. Gladys Chavez: Sure. Cathy Crigger: But um, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: I think the logo would definitely be recognisable. And it does have attributes that other products do. Two? Aye. Go for it. Gladys Chavez: Right, Rita Leeman: Two Gladys Chavez: okay. Rita Leeman: or three. Gladys Chavez: Two. Rita Leeman: How Gladys Chavez: Right, come on. Rita Leeman: Two. Gladys Chavez: That's Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: that decided. Right. So Rita Leeman: Right. Gladys Chavez: So we're now on to changing it to get it to fit in with the budget requirements, and then Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: What does what do all them numbers mean then? Do we add them up and rate or anything? Rita Leeman: Yeah we s yeah, I think we sort of add them up so sort of at an average is gonna be I'm just gonna do this Gladys Chavez: About Rita Leeman: in my Gladys Chavez: a two. Rita Leeman: head. Gladys Chavez: Two. Rita Leeman: One point eight isn't it or something. I think, anyway. So yeah, pretty close to a two. Anna Pratt: Yeah, Rita Leeman: So Anna Pratt: so it's Rita Leeman: So it's I mean it's pretty good at the moment, but it's gonna get worse, isn't it. But we've gotta Gladys Chavez: Yep. Rita Leeman: try and make sure it doesn't get Anna Pratt: So should Gladys Chavez: Two Rita Leeman: too Gladys Chavez: b Rita Leeman: bad. Gladys Chavez: two b two, yeah. Anna Pratt: we get So are definite Was it thirteen point seven was the definite price rule if has. Gladys Chavez: Yes. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Okay, so we need to Gladys Chavez: Well, you can lose one point two and still meet Rita Leeman: Do you wanna Gladys Chavez: the requirements. Rita Leeman: plug it into yours so we can get up the Gladys Chavez: Okay, well I put it back Rita Leeman: the Gladys Chavez: on. Rita Leeman: finances Anna Pratt: So I guess this Is this the last stage once we sort out the finances part of it? Rita Leeman: I'm not sure. Cathy Crigger: we'll probably have to re-rate it. Gladys Chavez: Yes, I would've thought so. Anna Pratt: Yeah, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: yeah we'll make the adjustments and then see how are rates are going. Gladys Chavez: Okay, so what was it, control uh F_ eight, wasn't Cathy Crigger: Ah Gladys Chavez: it? Cathy Crigger: it's on. Rita Leeman: it's come on already. Gladys Chavez: Oh. Oh. How kind. Right, okay. So, you can see there that the If you want to keep kinetic, right, you've got a choice there of going down to battery, which would save you one. You've got the sample sensor and and sample speaker, which is your big item. Anna Pratt: Oh actually we just have a plastic case, then we lose two Gladys Chavez: That's Anna Pratt: points, Gladys Chavez: right. Anna Pratt: which gets us um Rita Leeman: Mm. Gladys Chavez: Which gets you Anna Pratt: In right within the budget range. Gladys Chavez: Yes. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, I think that'd be fine. Because that was just a trend, and we do have rubber buttons anyway. Anna Pratt: So that's eleven point Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: seven, and then we could make sure we definitely had all the button supplements. Rita Leeman: Different Gladys Chavez: Alright. Rita Leeman: different colours, yeah. Yeah, I was I was thinking that because maybe maybe the sort of rubber case is a bit less in sort of the corporate identity than the Anna Pratt: Possibly, Rita Leeman: sort of you Anna Pratt: yeah. Rita Leeman: know sleeker plastic case. Anna Pratt: Um Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Okay, Anna Pratt: And that would Gladys Chavez: so Anna Pratt: allow us to have all the technical innovations. So we'd lose a little bit on the maybe kind of Gladys Chavez: So we're going for plastic, yes? Rita Leeman: Lose a little bit on the fashion, yeah, but Gladys Chavez: Yep. Anna Pratt: Oh Rita Leeman: And Anna Pratt: yeah, Rita Leeman: then Anna Pratt: and that would now be Yeah, that's that's within the budget. Um Do we actually have Do we just have one special uh special forms down here? Gladys Chavez: Well, uh w uh there was debate as to how you would count them. Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: You got special colour. Well originally I was assuming we had the red apple, and therefore, that was the special colour. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, I think we should just imagine white buttons. Anna Pratt: And we we've we've got we've got enough for another Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: we've got nought point eight left, so we've got enough for Gladys Chavez: Well, Anna Pratt: another Gladys Chavez: we've got special form. Now that would be one button, and the question was was that all buttons or is that just one button. 'Cause our plan really was to have one button only with a special Anna Pratt: Yeah, um Gladys Chavez: So so no matter Anna Pratt: But the Gladys Chavez: how you Anna Pratt: but Gladys Chavez: look at that, that would be the same. The other Anna Pratt: but Gladys Chavez: thing would Anna Pratt: but Gladys Chavez: then Anna Pratt: the Gladys Chavez: be special material, rubber, wood, titanium. Anna Pratt: I think maybe the special colour, we've got three now just because the Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: volume buttons are different, I guess we'd have the ones which are blue at the moment Gladys Chavez: Alright. Anna Pratt: would would just be Gladys Chavez: So, Anna Pratt: the standard Gladys Chavez: special Anna Pratt: colour. Gladys Chavez: colour, you want three in there. Anna Pratt: Yeah, which I think we should Yeah, they'll still be fine for the for the price. Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: Well I thin I think you you you just need two for the special colour 'cause it's just two supplements, you know. One original colour and then sort of two supplements, I think maybe. Gladys Chavez: That makes sense. Anna Pratt: Okay, Rita Leeman: Okay. Anna Pratt: uh Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Anna Pratt: that's probably it. Rita Leeman: So we only ne we only need two for that. Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: 'Cause I mean these these are moulded. The one colour's gonna be moulded out of a piece of plas uh of rubber, isn't Gladys Chavez: Okay. Rita Leeman: it. Gladys Chavez: Yeah, I would agree with that, I think. So special colours, two. Rita Leeman: Right. Gladys Chavez: And we've got special form is the one apple. The rest are all standard, although you could argue that should maybe be You were making these buttons down the bottom, I was presuming, bigger than the other ones, or were you? Anna Pratt: Ne Gladys Chavez: Was that the Anna Pratt: uh Gladys Chavez: idea? Cathy Crigger: Yeah, the volume ones should Anna Pratt: Maybe Cathy Crigger: stand Anna Pratt: that'll be Cathy Crigger: out Anna Pratt: a Cathy Crigger: a bit. Anna Pratt: second supplement. Rita Leeman: Yeah, Anna Pratt: Then there's Rita Leeman: that Anna Pratt: a spe a second special form. Gladys Chavez: Uh-huh. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: I Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: would have thought that's probably about r Anna Pratt: Well you got you got twelve. Gladys Chavez: well. Rita Leeman: Okay, so tha Anna Pratt: So I think that should still be okay. Yeah, Gladys Chavez: Right. Anna Pratt: that's twelve point three, so we're still within budget on that. Gladys Chavez: Yep, that Anna Pratt: Um Gladys Chavez: makes sense. Anna Pratt: So decide we've lost a little bit on the fashion and lost a bit on the fancy kinda Gladys Chavez: Yep. Anna Pratt: side of it, but generally speaking, we've kept the other attributes to the Gladys Chavez: I woulda said so. Yeah. So you'd maybe put fash fan uh Anna Pratt: That's Gladys Chavez: fashion Anna Pratt: without Gladys Chavez: at three rather than Rita Leeman: So shall we do Anna Pratt: Yeah. Rita Leeman: a Gladys Chavez: two. Rita Leeman: Well, um Anna Pratt: And specially it definitely could fits the the real product What was the what's the company name? Cathy Crigger: Real Reactions? Gladys Chavez: Real Anna Pratt: R yeah. Gladys Chavez: Reaction produ Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: I'm not quite sure, what Anna Pratt: yeah. Gladys Chavez: does that mean? Anna Pratt: I mean it still seems definitely fit that p so that's like if that's the new age kind of um inno innovative Rita Leeman: Yeah, so Anna Pratt: c type company, then um having the kinetic feature and the voice recognition Rita Leeman: Uh Anna Pratt: is Gladys Chavez: Yep Anna Pratt: p quite high up Rita Leeman: So Anna Pratt: on Rita Leeman: it's Gladys Chavez: I Rita Leeman: w if we've Gladys Chavez: would Rita Leeman: if Gladys Chavez: s Rita Leeman: we've put in for another special form on a button, then maybe they could be a different shape. Like we got a cherry one. Maybe other ones could be something else shaped. I don't know. That Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: would be poss Gladys Chavez: You mean of Rita Leeman: seeing as seeing as it's cheaper to make them a different seeing as we've got, you know, we've made it a a special form, so And that would sort of maybe keep us close on the sort of the fashion type one. And it would sort of, you know, keep it quite fancy as well, I don't Anna Pratt: Mm-hmm. Rita Leeman: know. Gladys Chavez: Well you could argue you might do it once a year, you would change, because at the moment you're making a red apple. Anna Pratt: Yeah Rita Leeman: Well you Anna Pratt: so Rita Leeman: could Anna Pratt: it's Gladys Chavez: So Anna Pratt: a Gladys Chavez: next year you could make next year's model the same, but have it as a Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Whatever fruit Gladys Chavez: a Anna Pratt: was in Gladys Chavez: yeah Anna Pratt: fashion Gladys Chavez: whate Anna Pratt: next Gladys Chavez: whatever, Anna Pratt: year. Gladys Chavez: a lemon. Yeah, l a lemon lemon or something. Rita Leeman: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: And Rita Leeman: I mean Gladys Chavez: that Rita Leeman: the volume buttons could be lemons or something, maybe. Gladys Chavez: amount Rita Leeman: Okay. So, we've what have we what have we rid of. We got rid of the plastic. Gladys Chavez: Yeah, we've the Rita Leeman: Is Gladys Chavez: main Rita Leeman: it Gladys Chavez: thing we've Anna Pratt: That Gladys Chavez: changed Rita Leeman: The Anna Pratt: yeah, Rita Leeman: rubber. Anna Pratt: that was Gladys Chavez: really Anna Pratt: uh Gladys Chavez: is Anna Pratt: that Gladys Chavez: the casing isn't it? Anna Pratt: was Gladys Chavez: We've Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: just about all. I think we've saved quite a bit because we've just got the push-button interface, which is by far the cheapest. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: But uh Anna Pratt: So maybe in a sense not having that, maybe we've lost some maybe lost something on the innovation side? I dunno. And that is like the most standard type of button. Rita Leeman: So I mean, we've got we got rid of the rubber case, but we've now s we now sort of got an extra form, and an extra colour for the buttons. So maybe in terms of sort of fanciness and fashionability, we're pretty much the same, Anna Pratt: Yeah. Rita Leeman: maybe. So, I mean we could maybe put two again on them. Anna Pratt: And everything else has stayed pretty much the same, Gladys Chavez: Well, Anna Pratt: so Gladys Chavez: ease has certainly stayed. Anna Pratt: Yeah, plus if anything Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: that is special forms makes it slightly easier to Gladys Chavez: Yeah. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: to use. Rita Leeman: And what about the sort of innovation? Anna Pratt: Um, Rita Leeman: Do you think Anna Pratt: well we've still got the kinetic energy. Um Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: And the speech feature. Anna Pratt: Yeah, the speech feature. Rita Leeman: And then, the corporate identity. Anna Pratt: I think we've cut just about the same. We've maybe lost Hasn't it It's hard to tell how the rubber the rubber Gladys Chavez: How Anna Pratt: casing Gladys Chavez: it would play Anna Pratt: would really Gladys Chavez: out, Anna Pratt: affect Gladys Chavez: yeah. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Oh. Rita Leeman: Whether whether that's considered to be sort of part of the corporate identity, I don't know. I mean, Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: it's maybe not. I mean Anna Pratt: But I think more the the features of the actual control will be more important than maybe than the Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: the actual aesthetics, but Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: But either way, I think we've made it fairly close to what Rita Leeman: Yeah. Okay, Cathy Crigger: Yeah, Rita Leeman: well I Cathy Crigger: I Rita Leeman: mean Cathy Crigger: don't see how we could make it any more. Um, Rita Leeman: We cou Cathy Crigger: apart from maybe doing the whole thing in the kinda light shade of blue, like the casing. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Cathy Crigger: But then what colour would you make the R_s? Anna Pratt: just the the company logo. So maybe there's like a set design which we get Gladys Chavez: Well, Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: but Anna Pratt: printed Gladys Chavez: you've got Anna Pratt: off. Gladys Chavez: the company logo on there, which would effectively be a stick-on badge. Anna Pratt: Okay. Gladys Chavez: So you're in a sense, you're comparing the product without the company logo. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: And then y but you've got the space for it Anna Pratt: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: to stick Anna Pratt: yeah. Gladys Chavez: it on. Rita Leeman: Hey, what what what's the company colour? Did you get told what the company colour is or Anna Pratt: I'm still not quite sure we've established that. Cathy Crigger: No, I just Gladys Chavez: Don't think Cathy Crigger: We Gladys Chavez: so. Cathy Crigger: got Gladys Chavez: But Cathy Crigger: the logo Gladys Chavez: but Cathy Crigger: off the Gladys Chavez: i Cathy Crigger: web Gladys Chavez: but Cathy Crigger: browser. Gladys Chavez: in the sense that, as you saw Rita Leeman: Oh Gladys Chavez: with Rita Leeman: right. Gladys Chavez: um the Windows logo badge, it doesn't really matter. There's virtually n The way that you frame, you know, the Windows badge on there, it really doesn't matter what Rita Leeman: Hmm. Gladys Chavez: colour it is, so long as our company's logo is framed w in the same way as that with a Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: like a black outline. Fact, they've got black and white or black and silver. So Rita Leeman: Mm. Gladys Chavez: basically, even if you had a silver the same colour of silver on your display, because you've got effectively a double edging on the uh on the logo, it means that it splits off what your logo is from the from the product. And Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: that's actually quite a sneaky way of doing it. Rita Leeman: Uh-huh. 'Cause you've got sort of we've got point two to play with if you really wanted to. Gladys Chavez: You could put in another Rita Leeman: Another colour. Or Gladys Chavez: Well, Rita Leeman: would that Gladys Chavez: in Rita Leeman: be Gladys Chavez: this Rita Leeman: t Gladys Chavez: one, you've actually got three colours of buttons. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Well, we decided that the blue ones were the um the standard colour. Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: So you were talking about uh um We're assuming that all the buttons on the second panel, the hidden away panel, would all be standard. Anna Pratt: Yeah. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: Which m may or may not be the case. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Shall Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: we save the point two for profitability then? Gladys Chavez: Well, yeah. Bu but but uh was the was there not a button that you were thinking of on the um on the other opt you know, on the second page, as it were, that uh you were thinking of maybe having as a different colour? Cathy Crigger: Um, I don't think they would really need to be. I think if they were just all small round blue buttons, it'd be fine. Anna Pratt: Yeah, maybe Cathy Crigger: Needs Anna Pratt: we've Cathy Crigger: to be Anna Pratt: m Cathy Crigger: an enter button, but could just be the same as well. Anna Pratt: Maybe for the the one they're gonna see all the time, we make it look good, and um, Rita Leeman: Hmm. Anna Pratt: fit the kind of idea of what they want. And then for the more functional buttons, we don't worry too much about that and just have that as like a plus it's hidden away anyway, you're not gonna see it at the start. Rita Leeman: Yeah. I mean it's the sort of thing that, I mean, you wanna pick up the controller and just hit a button quickly Gladys Chavez: Yeah, Rita Leeman: to Gladys Chavez: well Rita Leeman: change the channel or volume. So, if it's dead obvious, then that's fine. But if you're opening the panel and you're looking and you're tuning, then you're paying a bit more attention. So it may be sort of different colour buttons isn't so important. Gladys Chavez: Alright. Okay. Rita Leeman: 'Cause you Yeah. Anna Pratt: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: So Rita Leeman: So Gladys Chavez: we just add that to profitability in effect. Rita Leeman: Yeah, I mean so Cathy Crigger: Mm-hmm. Rita Leeman: we've dropped the cost, but Gladys Chavez: Right, so we're meant to finish up in five minutes. Rita Leeman: Same sort of function? The criteria? It's alright. Anna Pratt: 'Kay. Rita Leeman: Just made a load of money. Cathy Crigger: Shouldn't we maybe lose a point on fashion, go to a three? 'Cause we've lost the overall spongy feel. 'Cause it doesn't seem right that it just hasn't changed at all. Rita Leeman: Well, but I think we said that w Because you got rid of the rubber, we put an extra an extra sort of fruit um shape on one of the buttons. Cathy Crigger: Alright. Rita Leeman: le lemon Cathy Crigger: Did we Rita Leeman: sh Cathy Crigger: decide what that was, which button it was? Rita Leeman: I think well, Cathy Crigger: On the volume ones? Rita Leeman: we could have lemon shaped ones with the volume ones or something. Cathy Crigger: Right. Anna Pratt: Uh, Rita Leeman: Or something like Anna Pratt: That's Rita Leeman: that. Anna Pratt: good. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Definitely lemon shaped. Rita Leeman: Did did you have to have a rubber case, though, for rubber buttons? Or was it the other way around? Anna Pratt: You had to have rubber buttons if you had the rubber case. Rita Leeman: Right, Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Rita Leeman: okay. Anna Pratt: So I think we can we're Gladys Chavez: So Anna Pratt: okay. Gladys Chavez: we're okay this way around. Rita Leeman: Yeah. So that so we've Gladys Chavez: Until Rita Leeman: saved Gladys Chavez: the design team comes in and says, get off. But you are the design team. Anna Pratt: Then we say it's fine, so it's all good. Rita Leeman: Saved two Euros on that. Gladys Chavez: So what bit are we on to? Cathy Crigger: Um, can I just check if that's a cherry or an apple? Did we decide against the apple because of Apple Mac? And did we make it Gladys Chavez: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: a cherry officially? Gladys Chavez: I th Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: I th Oh. Right, okay. Anna Pratt: Just in case we need that point two for lawsuits and such like. Gladys Chavez: Oh drats, I've botched that, haven't I. Cathy Crigger: So were we aiming for a certain target on that scale? Rita Leeman: Well, we're aiming for um one for all of them. M but Cathy Crigger: Right. Rita Leeman: it really has to fit into the budget, so I guess we just have to adjust things to get it i in the Which is fair enough. Anna Pratt: And we seem to have least something in each criteria. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: We haven't completely left anything out, so Rita Leeman: Yeah, I think most Anna Pratt: As an overall product which has to be quite cheap, we've just about achieved Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: everything. Rita Leeman: Yep. Cathy Crigger: So do we have anything else to discuss? Rita Leeman: I don't know. What's on the agenda? Gladys Chavez: Right, okay um What's happened here? Gladys Chavez: Right, okay um Gladys Chavez: Mm. Right, okay um, Right. So we got Anna Pratt: We've got the Gladys Chavez: So Anna Pratt: closing. Gladys Chavez: we've done the the finance bit and the Excel project and the We've done the redesign. So we're now on to project process. Now satisfaction with, for example, room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, means, et cetera, whiteboard, digital pens, et cetera. So, we're actually now uh, in a sense, on to the evaluation of the course rather than the evaluation of the project is Rita Leeman: Uh-huh. Gladys Chavez: m my understanding of it. So what did you and remembering that nobody's just over the curtain. So, um Rita Leeman: Finish your meeting now. Anna Pratt: We should just go through Cathy Crigger: Huh. Anna Pratt: this quickly and then Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: So I suppose the easiest way of doing it is to put some notes down, which I will do. Rita Leeman: Okay. Gladys Chavez: So, uh I think I have to finish that page. Rita Leeman: Oh. Gladys Chavez: Right, okay, so Gladys Chavez: Project evaluation. So, um Creativity. Did you feel you got a chance to express yourselves well enough? Anna Pratt: Um, yeah. Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Well Anna Pratt: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: um Rita Leeman: I thought some of the divisions though between sort of the individual meetings were a bit arbitrary. Gladys Chavez: Individual meetings. How do you mean? Rita Leeman: Yeah. Well, we were finding out various things in Gladys Chavez: In you on your own. Rita Leeman: in be in-between the meetings, and they didn't the one meeting didn't always follow on for the other one, you know, sort of we had things thrown in at the second meeting where, Gladys Chavez: Um Rita Leeman: you know, you'd looked at the remote controls and seen the curviness, but in the first one you'd also looked at some remote controls and looked at the buttons, and I don't understand why it would be in separate meetings that you'd do that. You know, you'd sort of you'd probably present it at one or something like that. Gladys Chavez: Mm, The only thing you find is in a manufacturing process, you would normally, you go to a meeting, you decide, right, you do this, you do that, you do that. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Then you go away. You find out information. You then come back. You then discuss it. You then Rita Leeman: Uh-huh. Gladys Chavez: go and change things around, and then go back. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: So Anna Pratt: Yeah, I suppose and then be going out and finding more information each time and Gladys Chavez: Whereas, Anna Pratt: then diff Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: things will Gladys Chavez: this Anna Pratt: be relevant. Gladys Chavez: time, you're really getting it from a database source, so it's not Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: uh well uh Anyway, so, what do you want to put down? I've put, seemed okay. Creativity, seemed okay. Um um flow of information on on any given subject given subject um sometimes disjointed. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: I think it maybe could have been a slightly more creative project. I mean a remote control isn't the most um Rita Leeman: Yeah, the thing Cathy Crigger: kind Rita Leeman: itself. Cathy Crigger: of fancy thing Gladys Chavez: Um Cathy Crigger: that you could imagine designing. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: at the minute. Gladys Chavez: Have could have used a different example pel to increase Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: Is this go Gladys Chavez: create Anna Pratt: It kinda kis fits the purpose that it was something everyone knows about and then Gladys Chavez: Creativity. Anna Pratt: something we can at least look at and think Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: how we Gladys Chavez: You Anna Pratt: can improve Gladys Chavez: have to do it Anna Pratt: on. Gladys Chavez: within a set time frame is the other thing, so Rita Leeman: Yeah. But think like it was a bit restrictive just to say that you have to design a television remote control, in a way. I mean it depends what sort of business you're in, I guess. I mean this one seems. From the website it looks it's quite innovative, but we're coming up with some bucket shop product aren't we that's, you know, Anna Pratt: one of those things. Rita Leeman: fifteen Anna Pratt: Like uh, Rita Leeman: quid. Anna Pratt: companies can have like a range of products and Gladys Chavez: I th Anna Pratt: I don't know how it works Gladys Chavez: I uh Anna Pratt: but Gladys Chavez: d Anna Pratt: I guess that something got sent out and have like a brief to kind of Gladys Chavez: But the other thing is that uh they're I'm guessing that they're trying to use this um software to to demonstrate how you could uh do a project. I Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: mean, m my wife at the moment, for instance, is uh acting as a computer um for um you normally, you got a problem, so you go to your tutor and find out information to see how Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Gladys Chavez: to get it fixed. So what she's doing is she's having to spend a day at the computer terminal at one end so that any student that comes along can uh ask whatever question. And then you or the idea is that the whichever uh person's at the other end can point them in the right direction, show them where to either give them directly give them help, or secondly, point them in the right direction, either at the library, or uh or or come back, or go and see Joe Bloggs, or whatever. So uh, and that was a project I suspect similar to this, because they they were actually trying to debug the uh computer software to enable um to enable it to work. And Rita Leeman: Hmm. Gladys Chavez: of course, you had the Anna Pratt: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: machine crashing and various things going wrong. Anna Pratt: Well, Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: sh we look at Gladys Chavez: So Anna Pratt: the last slide, see if it's got anything else. I think Gladys Chavez: Alright, Anna Pratt: there's one Gladys Chavez: so we've got Anna Pratt: one more Gladys Chavez: uh Anna Pratt: to go. Rita Leeman: Yeah. I mean if you look at their products on their website here, Real Reaction, I mean it's all pretty high-tech and cutting edge. Gladys Chavez: New Rita Leeman: And Gladys Chavez: ideas found, did we find any, no. Anna Pratt: It was quite good with this um the white board, having that and the digital pens. Like, that's something Gladys Chavez: Alright. Anna Pratt: that made Rita Leeman: Yeah. Anna Pratt: it a little easier. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Leadership, teamwork. Rita Leeman: we did find a new idea, I mean sort of a kinetic remote control. I've never seen one of them before. batteries, I think. So Gladys Chavez: Does Anna Pratt: voice recognition, especially not could Rita Leeman: Mm yeah. Gladys Chavez: You've got voice recognition computers, that's Anna Pratt: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: not remote controls. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: Well it's a different application of it. Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Anna Pratt: Yeah, Gladys Chavez: Okay, Anna Pratt: so it's just like the same products, but just put together in a different way. Rita Leeman: Mm. Gladys Chavez: so how do you reckon teamwork went? Anna Pratt: Um Rita Leeman: That went okay, yeah. Anna Pratt: Yeah, I guess we all had separate ideas and then discussed them. Rita Leeman: Mm-hmm, Cathy Crigger: Yeah. Rita Leeman: yeah. Gladys Chavez: To uh go uh reasonably well. Okay. Rita Leeman: I don't think sort of the budget um allowed Gladys Chavez: Bit Rita Leeman: us to do anything Gladys Chavez: bit arbitrary. Rita Leeman: Well, I mean I don't think it I just don't think it fitted in with the rest of their products. I mean, they've got all these sort of, you know, Gladys Chavez: Mm-hmm. Rita Leeman: high definition D_V_D_ and portable seven inch d um lightweight computer screens, and uh I'm thinking, do you know, one cheap remote control doesn't really fit in. Surely Gladys Chavez: So, Rita Leeman: they they should produ Gladys Chavez: we're m we're meant to comment on leadership and the means, E_ G_ whiteboard, digital pens, et cetera. Cathy Crigger: Well leadership's Gladys Chavez: And Cathy Crigger: a bit Gladys Chavez: and Cathy Crigger: of a funny Gladys Chavez: new Cathy Crigger: one, Gladys Chavez: i new Cathy Crigger: isn't Gladys Chavez: ideas Cathy Crigger: it. Gladys Chavez: found was the the other thing. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: But we can't really all fairly comment on leadership because you are Gladys Chavez. You were the leader. So our experience of leadership wasn't really as Rita Leeman: Yeah. Cathy Crigger: much as yours. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Gladys Chavez: Now, I'd much rather be in marketing but I certainly didn't get this uh computer to work as well as I would have liked. However, um Alright uh means, so whiteboard um so really, it's uh equipment. Oh. Rita Leeman: Yeah. It worked. Cathy Crigger: Yeah, Rita Leeman: Comput Cathy Crigger: very nice. Rita Leeman: computers could be a bit difficult at times but Cathy Crigger: But I mean, I d I don't I'm not sure I see the value in these. I mean, they record what you're writing, and then what do you do with it? Where do you get the recording? Do you plug Rita Leeman: I Cathy Crigger: the Rita Leeman: think Cathy Crigger: computer or something? Rita Leeman: there's a little there's a little um Anna Pratt: So Rita Leeman: chi Anna Pratt: it's not just for us, it's for the experiment as a whole, so Rita Leeman: There's a little there's a little chip, I think you must plug Anna Pratt: Should Rita Leeman: it into Anna Pratt: we quickly Rita Leeman: something Anna Pratt: look at Rita Leeman: and Anna Pratt: the last Rita Leeman: it Anna Pratt: slide? Rita Leeman: produces Anna Pratt: Sh Cathy Crigger: Right. Rita Leeman: a Cathy Crigger: I think you watch a video of it kind of. Rita Leeman: I don't know. Whether it just produces a big image of sort of everything you've written or something, and Page Gladys Chavez: Right. Rita Leeman: after page. Gladys Chavez: New ideas found, so one or two. Rita Leeman: Yeah. Kinetic powered remote control. Um, what was the other one? Cathy Crigger: Voice um Rita Leeman: Vo yeah. Cathy Crigger: recognition thing. Gladys Chavez: um and uh voice uh, was it voice activated um Rita Leeman: Voice recognition, yeah. Gladys Chavez: recognition. Rita Leeman: S Rita Leeman: Almost. To Cathy Crigger: Pretty much. Rita Leeman: fill in these fill in these Gladys Chavez: Right, Rita Leeman: questionnaires Gladys Chavez: so, Rita Leeman: Oh Gladys Chavez: uh Rita Leeman: no. Gladys Chavez: are the costs within budget, yes. Is the project evaluated, yes. Uh, don't forget to complete final questionnaire and meeting summary. Then celebration. Anna Pratt: Is that Rita Leeman: Hmm? Anna Pratt: everything? Rita Leeman: I think that we've got two questionnaires and a Gladys Chavez: Yeah. Rita Leeman: report on the last meeting. Gladys Chavez: Uh, so we don't re So really I tried to save this the last time at twelve point three, and it didn't seem to have saved anywhere. Mind you, the the figure last was was different, but it should be poss	The first prototype for the remote control was made of single-curved rubber with a total of 16 rubber buttons (some of them in a slide-out panel) with a cherry design on top. It uses kinetic energy and has a sample sensor for the speech recognition. The initial cost was calculated at 13.70 Euros. Although over budget, the team decided to evaluate this prototype before making any changes. On a scale from 1 (true) to 7 (false) they rated it on the basis of the following criteria: fancy design (2), technological innovation (2), ease of use (1), incorporation of fashion elements (2), and brand recognition (2). Changing the rubber case to plastic reduced the cost and allowed for an extra button-form and colour. The team were reasonably satisfied with the project in terms of teamwork and creativity, although they thought that the flow of information was sometimes disjointed. However, the idea of designing a remote control seemed unexciting, especially since the requirements restricted it to TV only, and the budget was too small. Finally, some new ideas were also found in the form of kinetic energy source and use of speech recognition.	4	amisum	train
Karla Fassett: Alright, that did nothing. Okay. Welcome to the meeting everyone. Just gonna attempt to make this into a slide show. Karla Fassett: Sorry guys. Misty Magera: You may have to do the function F_ thing. Karla Fassett: I did. Misty Magera: Oh, okay. Karla Fassett: Twice. This'll just take a Margot Marshall: Okay okay Karla Fassett: moment. Or it won't. Karla Fassett: Okay we'll have to deal with it like Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: this then. Alright. Um. This is the first meeting uh for developing our, our new product. I'm Heather, I'm your Project Manager. Margot Marshall: Hello. Karla Fassett: Okay. So um. So that was the opening. The first thing we'll do is get acquainted with one another. If everyone could go around and explain their role and um, and their name. Margot Marshall: My name's Poppy. I'm Margot Marshall for this project. Um, I'm going to be responsible for the functional design phase. Also the conceptual design and the detailed design for the final product. Karla Fassett: Nice to meet you Poppy. Margot Marshall: Okay. Daisy Skelton: My name's Tara and the Interface Designer. I will also be responsible for the functional design phase, the conceptual design phase and the detailed design phase of the user interface design. Karla Fassett: Alright. Misty Magera: Hi, I'm Genevieve. I'm Misty Magera. I'm an expert at marketing. Um, I'll be telling you guys about the user requirement specifications for our new product. Um, I'll be doing some trend-watching in the conceptual design, and product evaluation for the design phase. Karla Fassett: Alright I'm Heather and I've I said I'm your Project Manager, um Well you can pretty much read what it is that I'm doing. But um um Yeah. And uh tool training is one thing that we're going to be doing today, um um as well as planning the project, how we're going to, uh, create this product, and, um, discuss, um, our aims and objects of this, uh Which brings us to our next subject, is, um, um, as a team we're going to be designing and creating a new kind of remote control. Um, we want this to be a marketable product that can be trendy, um, a completely new style, so that, um, can really appeal to a, to a generation that doesn't want a simple plain kind of, uh, channel-changer. And, um, it needs to be user-friendly for, um, maybe, for an example, for people that, um, can't see the numbers as well, or, um, perhaps an ergonomic design. Margot Marshall: Okay. So this is a television remote control? Karla Fassett: Yes, Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: it's a television remote control. Right. I believe I should be taking minutes on this right now. So, alright. Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: Um, yeah. Um, the way that we're going to go about this is, um, we'll have a time where we can, um come up with new ideas alone, and, and work on the project and then, um, after we've brainstormed and, and thought about, we can come together in a meeting and, and discuss what, what um, what kind of functional design we want to use. Same with conceptual design and detailed design. So, um, making sure that it, it's usable, that as a, um and that it's, it's feasible to create, and uh, to come up with a concept of it want, what we want it to look like. Um, tool training. Is, is everyone, um Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: Okay. Margot Marshall: Got Misty Magera: Yeah. Margot Marshall: those notes. Misty Magera: Thank you. Karla Fassett: Great. Great. Um One thing that, uh, we're going to do is become more acquainted with the, the tools that we have access to for our project. Um, one of them is our whiteboard. And, um, as a sort of team-building moment, um, I, I'd like us to, um, try out the whiteboard by expressing our favourite animal and the charac characteristics of that animal. Um, why that, why that should be your favourite animal. So, um, I, I'm assuming that we should do that now. Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: 'Kay. With our microphones still attached to our bodies. Margot Marshall: Okay. Daisy Skelton: Gosh. Karla Fassett: Okay. Karla Fassett: 'Kay, what's my favourite animal? Do come up. Margot Marshall: Oh, to go first. Oh, are we all doing Karla Fassett: This is Margot Marshall: it Karla Fassett: a Margot Marshall: individually? Karla Fassett: team-building time where, Margot Marshall: Okay, Karla Fassett: um, Margot Marshall: stand up and support you Karla Fassett: okay cool, um Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Karla Fassett: My favourite animal, which changes all the time, okay, right now it is an elk. Daisy Skelton: An Margot Marshall: Okay. Daisy Skelton: elk? Karla Fassett: alright, Daisy Skelton: A vicious Karla Fassett: so And it goes like Yeah it's got like big antlers, yeah. Looks kinda like, like it has holly growing out of its head. Margot Marshall: Do you have elk where you come from? Karla Fassett: Yes. Margot Marshall: You do. Karla Fassett: Yeah Misty Magera: We have moose too. Karla Fassett: we have moose Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: and we have deer. Do you have Daisy Skelton: We have sheep. Margot Marshall: Sheep. Yeah, cows. Karla Fassett: 'Kay, um. Margot Marshall: That's a great elk. Daisy Skelton: That is really good. Margot Marshall: Yeah. Daisy Skelton: I'm quite Karla Fassett: Thanks. This is my Misty Magera: Oh, very shapely. Karla Fassett: Okay. Margot Marshall: Brilliant. Karla Fassett: That's a sketching of my my elk, and it, it is my favourite animal right now, 'cause it is a large beautiful majestic creature, that um, that um In a way it looks kind of awkward, because it's on spindly legs and it uh But it can really overcome harsh terrain, and although it's gorgeous it's also very dangerous, because it has um strong antlers, and uh it can really combat its enemies, even like it it's a it's an herbivore but, uh, it can really defend itself. Margot Marshall: Mm. Very Karla Fassett: Yeah. Margot Marshall: nice. Okay. Karla Fassett: Right. Karla Fassett: Right, I'm gonna take minutes while, um, you guys Margot Marshall: Okay, Karla Fassett: express Margot Marshall: I'll Karla Fassett: your Margot Marshall: go Karla Fassett: favourite Margot Marshall: next. Karla Fassett: animals. Margot Marshall: I am a big animal lover. I like all sorts of animals, but for the moment I'm gonna draw a cat, in memory of my poor cat that died recently. Misty Magera: Oh. Karla Fassett: Oh. Margot Marshall: It's gonna be a bit of a strange drawing, but never mind. Margot Marshall: Not as artistic as Heather's drawing. Bit more cartoon style. But I like cats because they're so independent, and they always seem to be doing what they want to be doing. Um, but that doesn't mean they're completely not sociable, 'cause they enjoy interacting with humans as well, and they seem to enjoy the good things like sunshine and, um, running around outside as well as being inside, and enjoying their food, and generally just, they just seemed so cool and they just know what they're doing. Uh I reckon they're sort of, they got it sorted. They know what they want. Basically, that's why I like cats. Daisy Skelton: Very Karla Fassett: Great. Daisy Skelton: good. Margot Marshall: I'll rub that out. There you go. Daisy Skelton: Okay. but I'm not really sure how to draw one. Margot Marshall: Ooh. Daisy Skelton: I, I've never drawn a dog, I don't think. I'm tempted to draw a snail 'cause I draw them sometimes and they're really easy to draw. Um, Karla Fassett: I forget her name. Daisy Skelton: right it's Misty Magera: Tara Daisy Skelton: gonna be a really funny dog, Misty Magera: or Tara. Daisy Skelton: 'cause I'm not sure how to draw a dog. Margot Marshall: Well there are loads of different types of dogs, so I'm sure it'll represent one kind of dog. Daisy Skelton: It's a cartoon dog I think. A s I don't ev Oh, oh well. It's a scary cartoon dog. That This, that does not look like a dog. Karla Fassett: It Daisy Skelton: I'm Margot Marshall: We Karla Fassett: looks Margot Marshall: can pretend. Karla Fassett: kinda like a person. Daisy Skelton: sorry. Misty Magera: That's Pinocchio. Daisy Skelton: How do you draw a dog? I suppose it has a lon Oh my god. Right. Yous know what it's supposed to be. It's a dog. Margot Marshall: Okay. Daisy Skelton: Um, I like dogs because, um, they're so good to humans, like they can be trained to be police dogs and seeing-eye dogs, and they're just such friendly animals. And, like they're more of a companion than cats. I've Margot Marshall: Yeah, Daisy Skelton: nothing Margot Marshall: that's Daisy Skelton: against Margot Marshall: true. Daisy Skelton: cats. Cats don't really like Misty Magera, so I can't like them. But they're just so friendly and warm and nice animals, that don't look like that. Misty Magera: Alrighty. I feel like a robot. Okay. Um, well I guess I had the most time to think about it. I'm going to draw a butterfly, because I saw a butterfly yesterday, that seemed to be like the symbol of Spring arriving. And it was actually the prettiest butterfly I've ever seen out in the wild, and I though that was pretty cool in Scotland. It was like, well it was a little pointier than that. At first I thought it was a dead leaf. And then it landed on the wall next to Misty Magera. But this part was all brown and then it has these big blue dots like this. And then it kinda there was a green, I think it was a green ring, and there was like red going out like this. Karla Fassett: It's kinda like a peacock. Misty Magera: Yeah, it kinda was actually, 'cause it was This part of the body was really dull, and then it was the most colourful exotic butterfly ever, and I'm like, wow this is the middle of Scotland in like March. So I thought that was pretty cool. And it landed by a wall and let Misty Magera look at it for about two minutes. I wish I'd had my camera. So that's gonna be my favourite animal because after all the snow it seemed to say that like Spring is finally here. Yeah. There you Margot Marshall: Very Misty Magera: go. Margot Marshall: nice. Karla Fassett: Great. Misty Magera: Uh, what do we Oh. Karla Fassett: Do you hear the eraser buzzing while you do that? Misty Magera: Yes I do. Karla Fassett: Yea Right. So, now that we know how to use the whiteboard, Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: um, the next, um, thing we need to address is our financial department, to meet our our budget, um or not meet our budget but more, um, like what kind of, uh, selling range we'll be looking at, um, wanna make this um selling price of twenty five Euros. have to, um, come up with a way to, to create a, a uh remote control, where um we can like the price to create it will be significantly less. Um, we'd like to, um to, uh, make fifty million Euro. I'm assuming that's what the M_ means. Um, and make it for an international market. Um, one thing we'd have to think about internationally is in the design of, um, like different kinds of, uh, V_C_R_s. Things like that, depending on which country you are. Another thing for the design team to think about. Um, we want it to cost, uh, absolute maximum of twelve Euro and fifty cents. Misty Magera: Okay, so we'll have a hundred percent profit then? Twelve fifty. Karla Fassett: I'm bad at math. Misty Magera: Okay. Karla Fassett: 'Kay. Um, so now that, um, that is underway, um it is discussion time. So this is time for us to bring our initial ideas, any um suggestions that you may have so far, a um your personal experiences with remote controls, and um, um, areas you see that, uh, could be improved in your experience with them. Does anyone have any initial thoughts? Misty Magera: I find that in the dark it's often hard to know what button you're pushing. Karla Fassett: Mm-hmm. So what's something we could, uh, do to remedy that? Margot Marshall: Okay. Misty Magera: Um Margot Marshall: I always find that in our house the remote control always goes missing. It's always, where Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Margot Marshall: is the remote control? So maybe if you could have some kind of tracking device for the remote control or some signal that you could find out where it was. I dunno, some kind of alarm. You can press a button on your wall, Karla Fassett: Yeah. It's a great Margot Marshall: signal, Karla Fassett: idea. It's a great Margot Marshall: 'cause Karla Fassett: idea. Margot Marshall: it always gets lost. Daisy Skelton: Do yous not find that, um, like, there's a lot of, um, buttons on your remote control, Margot Marshall: Yeah. Daisy Skelton: and Misty Magera: Mm-hmm. Daisy Skelton: you don't know what Margot Marshall: Yeah, Daisy Skelton: half Margot Marshall: that Daisy Skelton: of Margot Marshall: you don't Daisy Skelton: them Margot Marshall: use Daisy Skelton: do. Margot Marshall: half Daisy Skelton: Yeah, Margot Marshall: of them. Daisy Skelton: I don't know what they Misty Magera: Mm-hmm. Daisy Skelton: do. Misty Magera: There's some remote controls where there's kind of a hidden panel, so all those buttons that you don't really use Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Misty Magera: unless you're Margot Marshall: Yeah, Misty Magera: programming Margot Marshall: that's, Misty Magera: or something. Margot Marshall: that's Misty Magera: That's useful. Margot Marshall: Yeah, it is. Misty Magera: So Margot Marshall: Yeah. Misty Magera: you just have like the number buttons, power button, T_V_ Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Misty Magera: video button. Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: Alright. Anything about, um, the look of the, uh, remote control that you might have ideas about. Maybe it could be, instead of like a standard rectangular shape, it could be, um, something more interesting like Any ideas will do that you have at this point. Misty Magera: Could Margot Marshall: Mm. Misty Magera: be shaped like a conch, you know. Be like a shell-shaped remote. Karla Fassett: Can Margot Marshall: A Karla Fassett: hold Margot Marshall: novelty. Karla Fassett: it. Margot Marshall: Are we going Karla Fassett: Yeah. Margot Marshall: into kind of novelty factors here. Like, I've seen Karla Fassett: Well if it's Margot Marshall: phones Karla Fassett: a trendy Margot Marshall: like a Karla Fassett: original, Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: um, aspect we're going for. I mean, you're the designers, you c, Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: you can um decide what kind of, Margot Marshall: Mm-hmm. Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Karla Fassett: um, direction you wanna go in, but at this point in the, in the first meeting it can Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: be any ideas that we just throw out there. Margot Marshall: I suppose, if we're he heading to have it, like make a huge profit out of this, it needs to be quite a universally accepted thing. Like, a novelty Daisy Skelton: Yeah. Margot Marshall: thing might only sell a few things rather than, like, a general kind of more acceptable But Karla Fassett: Mm-hmm. Margot Marshall: we don't wanna go towards boring, 'cause that wouldn't sell either. So, Karla Fassett: Yeah. Margot Marshall: hmm. Karla Fassett: And the key issue here is, is being trendy and original. Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: Um, that does not necessarily mean it needs to be outrageous. Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: Right. Okay we have five minutes left. So, just to cover We have one more thing. Um, like you can go over your ideas, of course, in your own personal times. Margot Marshall: Yeah. Karla Fassett: Um, our next meeting will be in half an hour. So you have half an hour to, uh, think about what you want to present. Or not present but bring to the meeting. Um, I_D_, whatever that stands for. Misty Magera: Interface? Margot Marshall: Industrial Designer. Karla Fassett: Industrial Misty Magera: Oh, Margot Marshall: That's Misty Magera: industrial. Margot Marshall: Misty Magera. Karla Fassett: Designer. I have to remember these things. Um. You'll be beginning your, your working design. Margot Marshall: Mm-hmm. Karla Fassett: Um, U_I_D_ the technical functions design will, will be worked on the next thirty minutes. Um, maybe how this can be achieved, and, um, we need the user requirements from the manag Misty Magera: Marketing Karla Fassett: Marketing Misty Magera: Expert. Karla Fassett: Expert. Um, you will get specific instructions, um, of what to do in the next half an hour. And I'll see you in half an hour, okay? Margot Marshall: Okay. Karla Fassett: 'Kay. Margot Marshall: Thank you.	Karla Fassett opens the meeting by introducing herself and asking everyone to say their name and role in the group. She then states the agenda of the meeting and tells them that they will be designing and creating a new remote control that should be trendy and user-friendly. The meetings will focus on functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Next, each group member draws their favorite animal on the whiteboard and explains the characteristics of that animal. After that Karla Fassett covers the project budget, and then they begin discussing their personal experiences with remote controls and how they want their remote to look. Then Karla Fassett closes the meeting by telling each group member what to do in preparation for the next meeting.	4	amisum	train
Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: Am I starting now? Anytime? Oh sorry 'Kay. um. Alright, welcome back fro to the second meeting. And um I hope you had a productive last thirty minutes. Um, and um, I'll be taking minutes on this one, and um Being hooked up to the PowerPoint for this meeting isn't very necessary for uh myself, because it'll be more about uh, what you guys are bringing to the meeting today. Um, so, the first presentation we'll be looking at is Poppy's presentation And. um So, sorry? So, um, take it away Poppy. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Um, do I need to Loni Jones: It's, it's plugged in. So, Lorraine Vonsoosten: plugged Loni Jones: um Lorraine Vonsoosten: in. Ryan Branch: F_ eight, w. Function F_ Lorraine Vonsoosten: F_ Ryan Branch: eight Lorraine Vonsoosten: okay. Function F_ eight. Sorry about this guys. Loni Jones: No problem. Lorraine Vonsoosten: 'Kay. is on. Right. Okay. I will take this time just to apologise. I, I only, uh, received my emails later on. 'Cause I was too busy carried away doing my own thing, which is not obviously not a very good part of a team-working thing. But there we go. Loni Jones: I'm sure it's fine. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, so I was looking at how we're going to go about the working design, and what we actually need to do, and what the remote control needs to do. And it needs to um allow a person to have a portable desi device, so they can control the television from wherever they are. They don't need to actually manually touch the television set. So, it gives them much more flexibility, and allows them to be where they want to be. Um, from Uh, on a functional side of things, we found out that wh from our previous meeting, we decided that there're certain points that will make our product unique. Um, one is the visibility in the dark, which was um Genevieve's idea. So we need to think about how we could bring this in um technically. And we could use illuminated buttons, which we are all familiar with when we're using a mobile phone, or um something fam familiar. A automatically, um lights up at first touch. Or we could use fluorescent materials which would just um take in the light during the day, and then as soon as they go off they would glow in the dark. Um, also we could use um an alarm. So if we lost the um remote control, perhaps there could be a button on the television set itself, which you could press, and then an alarm from the handset would sound where it was, hopefully in the room. Maybe behind a cushion or somewhere. Um, so that would work. Um, oop. Go back there. Um, another thing I think we d missed out on on the last meeting was the fact that we should consider the environmental impact of our design. Um, from previous researches I've carried out on other projects, um we've learnt about smart materials where um um specific alloys of metals have a shape memory. So they can be heated and um and cooled, and they change the shape of um the metal. So, for example, a screw that's holding something together could expand and it would force all the components apart. So um, the benefits of this for our product would be that when it came to the end of its product life, if it was heated, um everything would spring apart. So, all the um individual components could be easily separated, and then some could be reused, some could be recycled, and I think that would be very important for products now. Especially 'cause there's much uh responsibility for all the um companies who are coming up with like new designs. 'Cause all, we all know that our resources are being limited, and we have to be very environmentally conscious. Loni Jones: Right, um, one question. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: This, um, self-destructible uh metal, it allows for recycling materials? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um Loni Jones: So that, um, someone could have this product for as long as they felt that they wanted it, and then once Lorraine Vonsoosten: And then Loni Jones: they contribute it, then that company can break Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: down the part, the parts better? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah they would, um you would make the, the product as you normally would, apart from the, the bits that hold it all together would be made out of this shape-memory alloy. And that's the part that would um allow all the other parts to be separated at the end. I mean, the user would return the p product to the company, 'cause it's the product's responsibility to get rid of what they've made. Um, and then the company could then just use, make use of this shape-memory alloys to split up the components, Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: and then either reuse some bits, and other bits which are obviously gonna wear out with time, or not usable, they might be like be able to put into scrap metal. Something like the case, if it's scratched or something, you would want to reuse it, but you might be able to melt it down and Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: reuse it again somewhere else. Loni Jones: Would we be the company that would break down these, or uh metals? Or would Lorraine Vonsoosten: You Loni Jones: we Lorraine Vonsoosten: could we could probably Loni Jones: contribute Lorraine Vonsoosten: empl Loni Jones: to another Lorraine Vonsoosten: em Loni Jones: group? Lorraine Vonsoosten: employ a, a side company or something to do that for us. But it would be our responsibility to get that done and to dispose of the products that we made. For a certain percentage at least. Loni Jones: Alright. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Not every, not a hundred percent of everything we produce, Loni Jones: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: but Loni Jones: This sounds like a really great idea. One thing we have to consider is our uh one hundred percent um turnover goal that we have Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: for our financial Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: sector. Um, so we'll have to investigate how much that will cost Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: us, cost the company, um 'cause it sounds very labour-intensive. You would have to hire a number of people, and it might be more expensive. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Well I the fact of the shape-memory alloys is that they, they don't need to be manually de um deconstructed. Like, you don't have to individually um unscrew all the screws. Because of this, their properties are smart material. All Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: you need is just the heat, so they self-destruct themselves. Loni Jones: Alright. Lorraine Vonsoosten: So Loni Jones: We'll still Lorraine Vonsoosten: I Loni Jones: have Lorraine Vonsoosten: suppose Loni Jones: to investigate Lorraine Vonsoosten: it does need Loni Jones: the Lorraine Vonsoosten: like Loni Jones: financial Lorraine Vonsoosten: high Loni Jones: implications. Lorraine Vonsoosten: contact, yeah, you know high uh quality machinery, and very specific machinery, but Loni Jones: Alright. I like the environmental approach. Um, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: we'll have to see if that can meet our financial Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: goals as well. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um also there is um components. This'll be how it uh will actually work. But I haven't put this plan together yet. Loni Jones: I'm Lorraine Vonsoosten: There Loni Jones: sorry, Lorraine Vonsoosten: we Loni Jones: could Lorraine Vonsoosten: go. Loni Jones: you Lorraine Vonsoosten: Sorry, should I go Loni Jones: Those Lorraine Vonsoosten: back. Loni Jones: were um Lorraine Vonsoosten: show the circuit diagram. Although I haven't come up with the final circuit yet. Loni Jones: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: So I just put all those components in. Loni Jones: So those are what, um, we'll c construct the remote. Those Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: are all the Lorraine Vonsoosten: I it just shows what sort of energy source. It could be a battery, like rechargeable probably. Um, an' yeah, well how the infrared will actually be sent through the chip to be received by the chip on the television set itself. Loni Jones: Alright. Great. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay? So, now is it F_ eight again to escape? Or escape? There we go. Okay. Loni Jones: Alright. Thank you very much. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Thank you. Loni Jones: And, um, the next presenter will be Tara. Lorraine Vonsoosten: There you go Tara. Ryan Branch: Thanks. Can you see? Lori Shaffer: Oh, Ryan Branch: Do you think Is it uh, function eight yeah? Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Function Lori Shaffer: Function F_ Lorraine Vonsoosten: F_ Loni Jones: Function Lori Shaffer: eight Lorraine Vonsoosten: eight. Loni Jones: F_ eight. Sorry. Lorraine Vonsoosten: The one at the top. Ryan Branch: Oh right. Okay. Lori Shaffer: That looks right. Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Okay. I'm the User um User Interface Designer. Uh, the technical functions design of the apparatus is the effect the apparatus should have. Um, in this case it's the function of the remote control, which is to send messages to the television, television set. By inspiration from other similar designs we'll try and come up with an original There're two functional design options. A multifunctional remote control, which can be used for several entertainment devices. And a single function remote control, used specifically for the television. Lori Shaffer: I'm sorry, what was that last one. Multifunctional and Ryan Branch: Sorry. Um, a single function just for the television itself. Lori Shaffer: Ch Oh, I see. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Um, multifunctional controls can be difficult to use, as the multitude of buttons can be confusing. A single function remote control is simpler to use, but it means you have to have other remote controls for your other entertainment devices. Lori Shaffer: 'Kay. Ryan Branch: Um, I think that a single function remote control would be preferable, because it's easier to use. It'd be more compatible with a range of television sets, making it more internationally sellable. Um, it will make an original design more obtainable, as we have less functional necessities to include in the design. And it would be more profitable as it would be more simplistic. And less functions would have to be included. So it would be cheaper to make. And probably more sellable just because it's more compatible with a r a wider range of devices. Does anyone have any questions? Lori Shaffer: So as far as we know, um, a single function television remote control is us usable internationally? Ryan Branch: Well, it's just that, when we're creating it, we're, we have to make it um compatible with different brands of devices. Lori Shaffer: Right. Ryan Branch: And it would be easier to make it compatible with just different brands of television devices rather than other Lori Shaffer: D_V_D_s Ryan Branch: ent, Lori Shaffer: and V_C_R_? Ryan Branch: yeah, Lori Shaffer: Okay. Loni Jones: Right. Ryan Branch: other entertainment devices. Loni Jones: Does everyone agree with this? Does anyone object and, and find the multifunctional might be a better way to go? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, I was just wondering about the, what, what Genevieve said before, about having like some hidden controls like having the outer casing. And that would probably, um, I d, well well what you said before about it being a more profitable simplistic design. I suppose Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: having that would complicate it a lot more. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: And limit the design. Do you think? Lori Shaffer: Yeah, I think I agree with the single design thing for now, because we're trying to do so much, that if we're trying a unique user-friendly, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: dadada, also multi also multifunctional, um, we're gonna go over budget for one thing. So Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. That's true. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: And with this we'll have more room in the budget probably to make a more original design. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: We'll have more money to Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: go into the design side of it. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Yeah. Loni Jones: Alright. Sounds great. Lori Shaffer: Mm, 'kay. Loni Jones: Alright, well, um, are you ready for your presentation Genevieve? Lori Shaffer: Yes I am. Loni Jones: Fabulous. Except you're not Lori Shaffer: Oh, Loni Jones: hooked Lori Shaffer: I'm Loni Jones: up to the Lori Shaffer: not hooked up, but other than that, completely ready. Loni Jones: Great. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Oh. I just lost my microphone. Loni Jones: No Lori Shaffer: Just Loni Jones: problem, Lori Shaffer: a moment. Loni Jones: we can Lori Shaffer: Okay. So I'll be discussing the functional requirements of this remote control. Um, and I'll give you a little briefing on what that means exactly. Um, if you all remember from the email we got before our very first uh kick-off meeting, with the coffee machine? The functional requirements of that was to produce hot coffee quickly. Um, so what I'll be talking about now is the equivalent for a remote control. Um, so basically what needs and desires are to be fulfilled. Um, I've done some marketing research, a lot of interviews with remote control users, um, and some internet research. And I'll show you my findings. Oh, and firstly I wanted to remind you about our company motto and purpose. So we believe in providing international market with fashionable products. Um, hence our motto, we put the fashion in electronics. So I think that should be our priority here. Um, and we should also be looking to trends in clothing and interior design. Not just in electronic fashion. So that it's something that fits in the household. Loni Jones: I'm sorry, what was that last thing that you just said? Lori Shaffer: Um, we should be looking towards trends in both clothing and interior design. Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lori Shaffer: Any trends that are going on in, in Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Lori Shaffer: the public, even media, you know who's famous, what T_V_ shows are being Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: watched, um, to influence our remote control. Okay, so the findings. Um, seventy five percent of users of remote controls find them ugly. Which is a, quite a significant number. Um, the other twenty five percent didn't specify if they love them or found them, you know, neutral. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Loni Jones: I'm sorry, that eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. You mean that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking Lori Shaffer: Yeah, they're willing, Loni Jones: remote control? Lori Shaffer: they're willing to spend money on a remote control with personality. As Loni Jones: Okay. Lori Shaffer: opposed to your basic, you know, oval Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Lori Shaffer: black, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: all same size button remote control. Um, so it is something that people care about. It's not, it's not ignored in the household. Um, seventy five percent of remote control users said that they zap a lot. Zapping meaning they go through channels a lot. They're Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Lori Shaffer: you know thumb-masters. Um, and fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. That A very small amount. Thought that was interesting. Loni Jones: Alright, so Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Loni Jones: it might be very appealing if, um, Lorraine Vonsoosten: the single Loni Jones: we Lorraine Vonsoosten: function. Loni Jones: have very concise buttons. And Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: another thing with um lots of surfing, we'd probably have to work on something that could be um a lot more durable, because I find with um channel-changers that, um, Lori Shaffer: Yes. Loni Jones: a lot of the numbers get rubbed down if they're Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: printed on Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah Loni Jones: the button. Lorraine Vonsoosten: that's Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: a good point. Lori Shaffer: And actually to go with that, I'm gonna give you some statistics on the uh relevancy of the buttons, how much they're used. And uh how important the uh users find them. So the power button, obviously, in an hour is only used once. Hopefully the person's not turning on and off the T_V_. Um, but the relevance of that button is nine out of ten. So people wanna be able to turn on the T_V_ with the remote control. Um, as opposed to standing up and turning on the television set. Channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times on average per hour. That's a huge amount. This is the most important button. Um, so obviously when commercials come on they're changing it, so as you said we want a durable button that's not gonna run down. Relevance of that button, our users found was uh ten, ten out of ten. Uh, ditto for volume selection, so ten out of ten. And it's used on average four times an hour. Not as much as channel selection, but still significant. Um, audio settings is used on average zero point eight times an hour. Relevance is two. Screen settings, which means brightness, colour etcetera, zero point five times an hour. Um, and relevance of one point five. We're getting to specific statistics here. Teletext, um, now I'm not too clear on what that is. I don't know if you can help Lori Shaffer. Flipping pages. Is Ryan Branch: It's Lori Shaffer: that Ryan Branch: um Lorraine Vonsoosten: It's like the news. Or like Ryan Branch: It has Lorraine Vonsoosten: information. Ryan Branch: T_V_ has like information, it has information on holidays, the news, Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: entertainment. Lorraine Vonsoosten: The and Lori Shaffer: So Lorraine Vonsoosten: what's Lori Shaffer: like Loni Jones: It's Lori Shaffer: a Lorraine Vonsoosten: on. Lori Shaffer: running Loni Jones: um Lori Shaffer: banner, underneath Loni Jones: No it's Ryan Branch: No, Loni Jones: a button Ryan Branch: li Loni Jones: that you Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: press, and then you, uh, like a menu pops up. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: I haven't used it before Lori Shaffer: Oh. Loni Jones: but Lorraine Vonsoosten: It's Ryan Branch: And you Lorraine Vonsoosten: like Ryan Branch: have page numbers like for the menu, and you press the page numbers with your remote, and Lori Shaffer: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: It's like Ryan Branch: it, Lorraine Vonsoosten: very Ryan Branch: it'll come up. Lorraine Vonsoosten: basic internet. Ryan Branch: Very Lorraine Vonsoosten: Sort Ryan Branch: basic Lorraine Vonsoosten: of, Ryan Branch: internet, Lorraine Vonsoosten: um Ryan Branch: yeah. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Ryan Branch: But you Lori Shaffer: Like Ryan Branch: have Lori Shaffer: tells you the weather, and Ryan Branch: Yeah. But Lori Shaffer: Okay. Ryan Branch: you have no interaction back with it, you know. Like the internet you can send emails Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, Ryan Branch: and Lori Shaffer: Right. Lorraine Vonsoosten: it's Ryan Branch: You've Lorraine Vonsoosten: just Ryan Branch: no interaction. Lorraine Vonsoosten: information that um, like television timetables, what's on, what's on now, what's on next, on every Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: channel, and Lori Shaffer: Alright. Well I guess I'm not with it, because I wasn't But it's, it's being used fourteen times an hour. Um, and has a r a high relevance of six point five. So it looks like something that we're gonna want to do some research on and Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: include Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: on our remote control. Channel settings. Ryan Branch: Uh, probably just tuning in the channels, would Lori Shaffer: P Ryan Branch: it be? Lori Shaffer: Sorry. Changing the channels? Ryan Branch: Tuning them in at the very start. You know if you get a new T_V_ set, you tune in all the channels, Lori Shaffer: Oh, okay. Ryan Branch: do you th Lorraine Vonsoosten: To get Ryan Branch: do you Lorraine Vonsoosten: the Ryan Branch: think? Lorraine Vonsoosten: right reception Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: and Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: picture, Lori Shaffer: Okay. Loni Jones: Mm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: I suppose. Lori Shaffer: Um, so it's not used very often, but people still find it relevant. Okay. Um, biggest frustrations of uh the people that we interviewed. Remote controls are often lost somewhere. So that was already discussed by Poppy. How we could have a, an alarm system so that people can find it. Um, takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. So it should be very user-friendly, you know. People know what to do very quickly. Um, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Repetitive Ryan Branch: Repeti Lorraine Vonsoosten: strain Ryan Branch: Uh. Lorraine Vonsoosten: injury. Lori Shaffer: Ah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: I Lori Shaffer: Is Lorraine Vonsoosten: think. Lori Shaffer: that what it is? People with arthritis and such? Loni Jones: That's rather sad. Lori Shaffer: Um, maybe Lorraine Vonsoosten: Oh, Lori Shaffer: our Lorraine Vonsoosten: I'm guessing that's what it is. Ryan Branch: Yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: I'm not Ryan Branch: yeah. I think Lori Shaffer: designers Ryan Branch: it is. Lori Shaffer: can look into that. Um, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Lori Shaffer: buttons that don't require, you know, very firm Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: pushing, if they respond. But we'll have to also avoid, you know, buttons responding to the slightest touch as well. That's a problem. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. It is. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Did you guys uh get that one down? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Yep. Lori Shaffer: Um okay, here's some ideas for you. A large percentage of the public would pay for voice recognition on the remote controls. So I'll show you some numbers here. Um, so the youngest age group, fifteen to twenty five. Ninety one point two percent said that they would pay extra money to have voice recogni voice recognition included on their remote control. Um, and you can see that number decreases a bit with ol s Interestingly enough, twenty five to thirty five is the lowest amount. Um, that would, are willing to pay extra. So I guess we're gonna have to figure out what age group we're, we're targeting, and if and if voice recognition is something we wanna look into. And if we have the budget for it. Um, if we are targeting young adults, it looks like something that would pay off. Seeing as ninety percent, over ninety percent would pay for it. Loni Jones: I agree with um if we're targeting young adults then it would be something we should look into. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Um, financially and and functionally. Um, and especially if we are um trying to be trendy, go with fashions, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Loni Jones: things like that. Um, ages like from thirty five to sixty five which show lower numbers probably won't be as concerned. Lori Shaffer: So that, that's a whole other field of research. I don't know if it'd be, if we'd still have a remote, or if you're talking to your television and saying change channel. Um and depending Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lori Shaffer: on how many members Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: you have in households. So it m it may be too complicated for us, but it's something Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: to keep in mind anyway. Loni Jones: And something that might further complicate it is that the T_V_ makes noise itself. Lori Shaffer: Right. Loni Jones: Wonder Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: if it would have Lorraine Vonsoosten: And if there was conversation in the room at the same time, Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: although in theory it doesn't tend to be when you're watching television, but could be very difficult to get the specific uh Loni Jones: Yeah. If we're looking for a Lorraine Vonsoosten: design. Loni Jones: simplistic design, if Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: We need to decide if that is our um intention is, is a simplistic Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Loni Jones: design. Um, because if, if it is then I think voice, um voice-activated Lori Shaffer: It looks like Loni Jones: Yeah, and that would sort of negate the whole remote control thing, because Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: if people can activate the television with their voice Lori Shaffer: It'd Loni Jones: then they Lori Shaffer: be Loni Jones: won't Lori Shaffer: like Loni Jones: be Lori Shaffer: the Loni Jones: using Lori Shaffer: ultimate Loni Jones: a, Lori Shaffer: remote. Loni Jones: they won't be talking into a remote, I'm sure. Lori Shaffer: Um okay. And th the last thing here was a, an L_C_D_ screen. So, I mean voice recognition might be a little too extreme for us. Not practical. Um an L_C_D_ screen though might be something that, you know, you can shift through pages kind of li the way this PowerPoint is working. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: So that you don't have so many buttons to deal with. Loni Jones: Um, I don't know what an L_C_D_ screen is. Lori Shaffer: Oh sorry, just, just a screen, like a computer screen. S Or like um Ryan Branch: Mobile phone. Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Or Like an alarm clock. You'd have an L_C_D_ versus just a, Lorraine Vonsoosten: What, Lori Shaffer: a Lorraine Vonsoosten: what Lori Shaffer: normal Lorraine Vonsoosten: would Lori Shaffer: clock. Lorraine Vonsoosten: appear on the screen? Loni Jones: I have no idea still. I'm sorry. Lori Shaffer: Oh just like an electronic screen. As opposed to just buttons. There would be like a little, Loni Jones: Oh, on Lori Shaffer: like Loni Jones: the remote. Lori Shaffer: on Yeah. Loni Jones: Okay. Lori Shaffer: Like on the top of a cellphone, the the little Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: L_C_D_ screen. Um, now that's, I, I dunno exactly what exactly we'd put on there. I guess the channel that you're on, Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: the v the volume setting. Ryan Branch: Could it it It would be good if it had the actual programme that was on, and what was next. But that would probably be Lorraine Vonsoosten: Like linked in with the teletext, Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: or sort Ryan Branch: That Lorraine Vonsoosten: of like Ryan Branch: would be Lorraine Vonsoosten: an Ryan Branch: good, yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: teletext at your fingers, without having Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: to access that through the television. Ryan Branch: Might be quite expensive to do that though. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm, Yeah. Could be. Lori Shaffer: Well Loni Jones: Right. Lori Shaffer: I guess that's something we can all take back to our respective research. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Lori Shaffer: Um, and finally, whoops, my personal preferences and thoughts. Um, I think our priority really should be unique design. Um, we want something that people want in their home. Every remote control looks the same, so uh in my opinion it should be, um, user-friendly and unique. So the other stuff might be a little too, a little too gadgety for some people. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Um, I th myself, voice recognition kind of scares Lori Shaffer off. So if we're, if we're Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Lori Shaffer: aiming to make this an international university, universally accepted product Um, and for all, the other thing is like age market. I mean if we wanted to concentrate on fifteen to twenty five years olds, we could go for the fancy stuff. But if we wanna make fifty million, and and have everyone want this remote control, we should maybe stick to the basics. Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: And we should keep in mind that fifteen to twenty five year olds might not have twenty five Euros to spend on a remote control. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: Like their priorities might not be a fancy remote control, when they're just starting out and, Lori Shaffer: Right. And we have to Ryan Branch: yeah. Lori Shaffer: keep in mind the, the reliability of our research. I mean, you know, a sixteen year old boy would say, yeah I'd pay extra for voice recognition, until they realise that's three months allowance. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Um, Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: so I I think, I think the older generations we should be catering to a bit more. Ryan Branch: Early twenties, Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: that's the kind of age group. Loni Jones: And if one of the largest, Ryan Branch: Twenties. Loni Jones: uh, or most complained about thing is that it takes so long to get to know how Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Loni Jones: to use a Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: remote control, I'm sure that something like an L_C_D_ screen or remote control would be just furthering that problem. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Yep. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Complicated Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: jus complicating things even fo Loni Jones: Alright. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Lori Shaffer: That's it for the market research. Loni Jones: Okay. Before we go into uh more discussion on we want this design to look like, I've received some information from the management that will affect some of our decisions. Um, for one thing, because Having controls with D_V_D_, V_C_R_, that sort of thing, would really complicate the design of the remote control. Um, we've decided not to include them and make it a specific, just a specific television um function. decided that we would like to go with that anyway. Um, for many reasons. So um we have that decision sort of made for us. Another thing that might um affect other decisions is that um the management feels that teletext is outdated, because more people are using the internet now. And so uh we won't concern ourselves with um navigating the teletext option. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Can I just interrupt? Loni Jones: Yep. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Would you like to plug in Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Maybe we Lorraine Vonsoosten: your Lori Shaffer: can do the Lorraine Vonsoosten: Have Loni Jones: Okay, Lorraine Vonsoosten: you Loni Jones: sure. Lorraine Vonsoosten: got a PowerPoint or not? Loni Jones: Yeah I do. I'm Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: looking at Lorraine Vonsoosten: Thanks. Loni Jones: looking at it right now. Lori Shaffer: There you go. Loni Jones: thank you. Lori Shaffer: Oh, come back screen. Hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Were they, was the management suggesting use of the internet rather than teletext, or just avoiding both altogether? Loni Jones: Um, well, I mean we don't have the resources or Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: or possibility Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: of using the internet with the remote control, but um they were just pretty much saying that Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: the teletext would not Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: be used. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: Alright, and another thing. This is for the design, the design of the product is that um we wanna create, um more of a sense that people know that this is from our company. So, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Right. Loni Jones: um, all the remote controls must have our um We'll incorporate our logo and colour in in Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: some way. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: So, um, perhaps um our logo on the bottom, or wherever you feel like it would look good. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: Um, it doesn't have to be the colour of our um Lorraine Vonsoosten: Just Loni Jones: of our company but, another thing is that, um we need to, we probably would have to have that colour and, and logo decided upon. Um, I'm assuming that we already have one, but for the purposes of this meeting I, I wasn't offered a, like a type of logo or colour, so Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: if that Lorraine Vonsoosten: Work Loni Jones: could be Lorraine Vonsoosten: on that. Loni Jones: um somewhere on the design so that we can be recognisable. Lori Shaffer: It's probably R_ R_R_ in yellow. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: The little R_ R_ yellow thing? Okay. Lori Shaffer: Yeah, Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Lori Shaffer: I think. Loni Jones: Real Reaction? Okay. Um, yes, those are the changes. Um, so, now we need to discuss, um and come to a decision on our remote control functions, of, of how this is going to be. I'm just going to look at my notes for a second. Um, we have to decide on a target group and the functions of the remote control. So, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: um, we already know that it'll just be for the television. It'll It won't have teletext. But um, you know, we could discuss um those other options that you brought up, Genevieve. Lori Shaffer: Okay, so I Are we going to write off the L_C_D_ option? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: Is Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: that Lori Shaffer: Yeah? Loni Jones: how most people feel about that? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Okay. Loni Jones: Okay. Lori Shaffer: So no L_C_D_, no teletext, and no voice recognition. Ryan Branch: I think it would be annoying though if I don't use teletext that much, but if it was on your T_V_, you'd want to be able to use it, if Loni Jones: Yeah, but another Ryan Branch: You'd Loni Jones: thing Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: is that if we're reaching an international crowd, um, I know for one that in North America there Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Loni Jones: is no such thing Ryan Branch: So Loni Jones: as teletext, Ryan Branch: is it just Loni Jones: so Lori Shaffer: Never Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: it'd be Lori Shaffer: heard Loni Jones: really Lori Shaffer: of it. Loni Jones: superfluous. Ryan Branch: Okay. Alright. Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Right. Loni Jones: I don't know about other countries besides the U_K_. Do you know if anywhere else Ryan Branch: I don't Lorraine Vonsoosten: I Ryan Branch: know. Lorraine Vonsoosten: don't know. Loni Jones: has it? Ryan Branch: I don't Lorraine Vonsoosten: More Ryan Branch: know. Lorraine Vonsoosten: research required, I think. Loni Jones: Alright. Lorraine Vonsoosten: But if Was it a management decision that we're Loni Jones: It was Lorraine Vonsoosten: having Loni Jones: a management Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: decision, Lorraine Vonsoosten: So Loni Jones: so it's, it's pretty much out of our hands at this point. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Ryan Branch: Okay then. Loni Jones: 'Kay. So, I guess we're looking at something rather simple. Lori Shaffer: Um, well I guess, just from my findings it looks like we wanna minimise buttons. Lorraine Vonsoosten: 'Kay. Lori Shaffer: Um. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Minimal Lori Shaffer: And the What was the word they used? F findability is important. Loni Jones: Yeah. I think we should definitely go ahead with the alarm system idea Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah Loni Jones: that you Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: had. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: 'Cause Lorraine Vonsoosten: okay. Loni Jones: I'm sure that could be inex inexpensive because we could use the same kind of infrared Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. The same signalling. Loni Jones: the same Lorraine Vonsoosten: I mean Loni Jones: signal through that and it could just like make a little beeping noise. It's not Lorraine Vonsoosten: Or Loni Jones: that expensive Lorraine Vonsoosten: vibrate Loni Jones: to do. Lorraine Vonsoosten: just the same as a mobile phone. Like you just a, Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: a buzz or something. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: Okay. I like that idea. Ryan Branch: Would you be able to, um, put the little device anywhere? 'Cause uh isn't our remote control for all T_V_s, so Lorraine Vonsoosten: If Ryan Branch: you'd ha Lorraine Vonsoosten: Do you mean the the link between the Ryan Branch: Yeah, with the button Lorraine Vonsoosten: Well, Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: that you pressed. Loni Jones: The button Lorraine Vonsoosten: if the button Loni Jones: Oh. Lorraine Vonsoosten: was actually on Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Oh, Ryan Branch: C 'cause Lorraine Vonsoosten: yeah. Ryan Branch: then it would only be a Loni Jones: Minor detail Ryan Branch: applicable Loni Jones: there. Ryan Branch: to one T_V_ set, so it would need to be something that Lorraine Vonsoosten: Maybe Ryan Branch: you could stick somewhere, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, yeah. Ryan Branch: or something. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Maybe Loni Jones: Yeah, it Lorraine Vonsoosten: something Loni Jones: would have t Lorraine Vonsoosten: adhesive that you could like stick onto the back of Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: any set that would be Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: um yeah not very obtrusive. Obviously something small that's Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, that's a good point. Loni Jones: Yeah. Then it wouldn't, it probably wouldn't be able to use It would be able to use the same reception on the remote c control I guess, but the actual device would have to have its own Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: infrared Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: signaller. Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, okay. Ryan Branch: Would it need a battery then? Loni Jones: Maybe, um Lorraine Vonsoosten: Pr probably. Loni Jones: Probably, I mean. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Unless it could Loni Jones: That's your Lorraine Vonsoosten: be Loni Jones: department you'll have to Lori Shaffer: Mm. Loni Jones: sort that out. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Um, unless some way, it could have some universal connection to like the socket, the same socket that the T_V_'s supplied from. I mean the power for the T_V_. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: So, Loni Jones: Yeah, you'll Lorraine Vonsoosten: mm, Loni Jones: have to Yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: more Loni Jones: you'll Lorraine Vonsoosten: research Loni Jones: have to Lorraine Vonsoosten: into Loni Jones: investi Lorraine Vonsoosten: that one. Lori Shaffer: Mm. Loni Jones: Do Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: some research on that, alright? Great. Um, alright, and I'm sure that, um um, the glow-in-the-dark, fluorescent, whatever, system, um is a go ahead. Is Lorraine Vonsoosten: Y Loni Jones: everyone interested Lori Shaffer: On Loni Jones: in Lori Shaffer: the buttons? Loni Jones: that? Ryan Branch: I I like the light up suggestion. I think that would Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: be better. 'Cause you know Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: the way fluorescent lights lose their brightness Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: after Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: certain time, so Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: I would Lori Shaffer: it Ryan Branch: go Lori Shaffer: doesn't Ryan Branch: for Lori Shaffer: It could it could be a tactile thing as well. Um right, if w if we're minimising buttons, we might be able to make them actually larger. And there's something on it. S you know like Lorraine Vonsoosten: Like a raised Lori Shaffer: up arrow down arrow for, for volume. Um, and I don't know what we could do for, for channels. S Ryan Branch: Well just the numbers could be embossed, couldn't it? Like raised. Lori Shaffer: The numbers themselves. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: But then Ryan Branch: Could Lori Shaffer: the Ryan Branch: be Lori Shaffer: like Ryan Branch: raised. Lori Shaffer: up button and down button for the channel, channel changing. Ryan Branch: Just little arrows, that Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Ryan Branch: you could feel, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah Ryan Branch: maybe? Loni Jones: Hmm. Lori Shaffer: I just thought that it, it might be sucking more battery power, if there, if it is a light up. I'm not sure. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: That's Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: true. And Loni Jones: But Lorraine Vonsoosten: also Loni Jones: I mean Lorraine Vonsoosten: y, uh Heather you mentioned before, um like how it should be accessible to everybody. Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, so like big b um buttons, for people you are visually impaired. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: The glow-in-the-dark Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: or light up won't make any difference anyway. So like you Ryan Branch: That, Lorraine Vonsoosten: say tactile Ryan Branch: I think that's Lorraine Vonsoosten: might be Ryan Branch: good, Lorraine Vonsoosten: better, Ryan Branch: yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: because it'd be more available to Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: everybody. Loni Jones: Could we somehow We could, may, possibly, sorry, incorporate them both so that Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: the Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: buttons could maybe be in the shape of the numbers themselves and Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: be made out of some glow-in-the-dark Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: material. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: 'Cause Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: I d I don't think that glow-in-the-dark material, um, like the actual soft plastic, um, costs that much more Ryan Branch: No, Lorraine Vonsoosten: No, Ryan Branch: I Loni Jones: than other Ryan Branch: wouldn't Loni Jones: colours. Lorraine Vonsoosten: it's Ryan Branch: say so. Lorraine Vonsoosten: not these days. I mean, it's quite easily Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: accessible. Lori Shaffer: I guess the other option, referring to the battery thing is, you know how cellphones will t light up for fifteen seconds Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: or something, when Ryan Branch: That's Lori Shaffer: you're s Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: good Yeah Lori Shaffer: and then Ryan Branch: that Lori Shaffer: it goes, Ryan Branch: a good Lori Shaffer: so Ryan Branch: idea. Lori Shaffer: if, if you're like changing the volume during a movie. I know, I'm thinking of mostly when Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: you're watching a movie you turn all the lights off right. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: And Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: you don't want to turn on the lights, to turn it down, because there's suddenly an explosion, and it's gonna wake up the baby. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Um, so if you touch the button, it kind of reactivates it. It lights Ryan Branch: That, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: up for Ryan Branch: yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: that's a good idea. Lori Shaffer: On self timer. Lorraine Vonsoosten: So self-timed lighting. Lori Shaffer: Yeah. Loni Jones: Alright we have five minutes left Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, Loni Jones: um, Lorraine Vonsoosten: I Loni Jones: for the meeting, but I think we should discuss this light subject a little bit more before we close. Um, what was I missed the last moment, reading that. What were you talking about with the lighting up buttons? Lori Shaffer: Oh, just if it was kinda the same way that a cell You know how a cellphone will light up for about ten, fifteen seconds when you touch a button, after Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: having not touched it for a while. Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Um, if instead of a constant light up on the, on the remote control, if it lights up for ten seconds when it's touched again. Loni Jones: Mm. So it could be any button that would be pressed. Lori Shaffer: Yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: and you, you touch it and it just kind of lights up a bit, and it gives Lorraine Vonsoosten: So, Lori Shaffer: a faint Lorraine Vonsoosten: self-timed Lori Shaffer: glow. So if you have all the lights off in your living room, you'll, Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: you'll temporarily see it. Because usually you're not fooling around for it for more than what ten seconds. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: Okay, so Lori Shaffer: So Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: That's probably feasible. So, do you think that we should do the lighting up thing, and the glow-in-the-dark thing, and the shape of the numbers? Do we have to kind of decide what we're gonna do with this. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: I think the shape of the numbers is a really good idea. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: Yeah, okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: And I think Ryan Branch: For Lorraine Vonsoosten: that's Ryan Branch: visually Lorraine Vonsoosten: un unique Ryan Branch: impaired, Lorraine Vonsoosten: as well. I Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: mean, I haven't Ryan Branch: yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: seen that. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: And as you're saying like numbers can wear off if they're just sort of like Loni Jones: Yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: painted on, Loni Jones: yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: you Loni Jones: And it Lorraine Vonsoosten: know Loni Jones: could, Lorraine Vonsoosten: printed. Loni Jones: if it's that softer rubber material it'll be, maybe, um, uh, better for people with um Lorraine Vonsoosten: durable. Loni Jones: els no what's it called, R_S_I_, what was it that Lorraine Vonsoosten: Oh Loni Jones: we were Lorraine Vonsoosten: yeah. Loni Jones: talking about? Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Oh right, Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: the Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Repetitive Loni Jones: Yeah instead of Lorraine Vonsoosten: strain Loni Jones: like hard Lorraine Vonsoosten: injury. Loni Jones: buttons. Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Um, did we want to go for the glow-in-the-dark look? Or Ryan Branch: If Loni Jones: did we want to go for the lighting up instantly? Like should we do both? Or we can have one or the other? Because it might, for, for our design purposes, I mean, the lighting up thing might be better because Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: glow-in-the-dark material has a funny kinda colour. Lori Shaffer: I Loni Jones: And Lori Shaffer: was Loni Jones: it might Lori Shaffer: gonna Loni Jones: not Lori Shaffer: say, Loni Jones: go with different like face plates that we might come up with. Lori Shaffer: Exactly. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: It the it might be perceived as tacky, glow-in-the-dark. It's kind Loni Jones: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: of like Eighties neon-style. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, Lori Shaffer: Um, whereas Lorraine Vonsoosten: and Lori Shaffer: we're Lorraine Vonsoosten: we Lori Shaffer: trying Lorraine Vonsoosten: could Lori Shaffer: to be trendy and fashionable. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah Lori Shaffer: So Lorraine Vonsoosten: there are now like loads, or a huge range of different colours that it could light up in as well, which could like link in with the company colours. Like it could be blue or green or yellow, Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Loni Jones: Right. Lorraine Vonsoosten: or like Loni Jones: Right. Lorraine Vonsoosten: we've just limited t with the, just ordinary phosphorescent so Loni Jones: Alright. So we've decided on lighting up Ryan Branch: I was thinking Loni Jones: things. Ryan Branch: though, if it was glow-in-the-dark, you could put the um Real Reaction symbol as glow-in-the-dark, and then it would be constantly advertised. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Mm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Every time the, that it lit Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: up, you c that could light up as Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: well. Or, Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: or Loni Jones: Yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: the, whate Loni Jones: But with the same thing, I Lori Shaffer: That's Loni Jones: mean. Lori Shaffer: true. Loni Jones: If you touch the button Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: and then it Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: could be, Ryan Branch: Okay. Loni Jones: it could be lit up as well. Is Are you okay with that? Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: Okay. Cool. Um Alright. So I think that um Lorraine Vonsoosten: Is Loni Jones: that completes most of our um our more uh practical decisions. And now it's up to designing. And um making sure that this can be feasible. Lori Shaffer: What um Loni Jones: And do you have anything Lori Shaffer: Oh Loni Jones: Do Lori Shaffer: sorry. Loni Jones: you have anything to say? Lori Shaffer: Yeah well, I was just gonna throw out there the thought about um personalising the remote control. Um, it, you, 'cause you mentioned face plates. So I I dunno if there's something that diff, you know like five different face plates. I dunno if this will start making it more complicated, but it could increase the popularity of the, of the remote. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Ryan Branch: Oh yeah. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Like Lori Shaffer: Um Lorraine Vonsoosten: you can have changeable Ryan Branch: Interchangeable thing? Lorraine Vonsoosten: um Lori Shaffer: Yeah, Lorraine Vonsoosten: mobile covers Loni Jones: Like an iPod Lorraine Vonsoosten: or something. Ryan Branch: That would Loni Jones: or something? Ryan Branch: be good. Lori Shaffer: Exactly, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah, Lori Shaffer: like Loni Jones: Okay. Lori Shaffer: an Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: iPod. Exactly. Lorraine Vonsoosten: or Okay. Lori Shaffer: Or, or like mobile Loni Jones: Like a Lori Shaffer: ph. Loni Jones: cellphone? Yeah. Lori Shaffer: And I dunno if we'd want to go with like T_V_ show themes or something. Like a Bart Simpson faceplate. Ryan Branch: Yeah, and then that Lori Shaffer: But Ryan Branch: would be uh more profitable like as a sideline to the remote Loni Jones: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: as well. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Y Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Branch: Could buy Loni Jones: Accessories. Lori Shaffer: Exactly. Ryan Branch: extra Lori Shaffer: You could start out with Lorraine Vonsoosten: Person Lori Shaffer: three, and if, if we hit it big then we can add Ryan Branch: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: some on. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Well, Ryan Branch: That's Lorraine Vonsoosten: that's Ryan Branch: a good idea. Lorraine Vonsoosten: great. Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: Yeah. Loni Jones: I think that we should incorporate that. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Interchangeable. Um, Loni Jones: 'Cause Lorraine Vonsoosten: als Loni Jones: that wouldn't be very expensive at all. You'd Ryan Branch: No. Loni Jones: just get one mould, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Lori Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Interchan Loni Jones: throw some plastic in it, you know. Lorraine Vonsoosten: And also possible I mean, uh, we could gain out of that by advertising certain T_V_ shows, or Ryan Branch: Oh Loni Jones: Yeah. Ryan Branch: yeah. Loni Jones: Well, that might be com Lori Shaffer: Right. Loni Jones: problematic with um copyright issues. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: So, Lorraine Vonsoosten: But if we, there Loni Jones: if Ryan Branch: If Lorraine Vonsoosten: is Loni Jones: it Ryan Branch: w Loni Jones: takes off then we'll, Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: we'll, Lorraine Vonsoosten: We could Loni Jones: we'll try that out. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, the environmental factor, we didn't bring that up again. Lori Shaffer: Right. Loni Jones: Right. We'll have to do more research. Like as of yet, that has nothing to do with, um, the way it'll look. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Yeah. Loni Jones: Um, does it need to be reached a de Do we need to reach a decision on that right now? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Um, Loni Jones: Because Lorraine Vonsoosten: I've Loni Jones: we need to investigate the financial implications. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Let's Loni Jones: Is it Does it need to be uh decided on now? Or Lorraine Vonsoosten: I Loni Jones: should we Lorraine Vonsoosten: think we could probably leave that 'til later on, Loni Jones: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: then. Loni Jones: Good. Alright then. Anyone else have anything more to say before we close? Ryan Branch: No. Lorraine Vonsoosten: No. Loni Jones: Alright, well. Let's have lunch and we'll discuss this later. Ryan Branch: Okay. Lorraine Vonsoosten: Okay. Loni Jones: Alright? Lorraine Vonsoosten: Thank you.	Loni Jones opens the meeting, asking Lorraine Vonsoosten to present first. Lorraine Vonsoosten begins talking about the functional aspect of the working design and features to make the product unique, such as visibility in the dark, locator alarm, and environmentally-friendly materials. To make an environmental impact, they could use smart materials that can be heated and cooled so that the individual components easily separate to be reused or recycled. The group asks some questions about this idea and then the interface designer presents about technical functions, explaining the difference between a multifunctional and single function remote. The group discusses the two types and decides that a single function design is more suitable for the budget. Lori Shaffer presents on user requirements by using research done on remote control users. She summarizes these findings andexplains her personal preference for a user-friendly, unique design since certain features could be too complex. Loni Jones receives some decision-affecting information from management, which she shares with the group. They have a discussion about the remote control functions and close the meeting.	4	amisum	train
Tammy Witty: Okay. Oh, that's not gonna work. Tammy Witty: Oh, alright. Okay. Tammy Witty: Okay. Um Dreama Faunce: Uh, uh, um. Tammy Witty: alright. I'll just put that there. Uh as you all know we're here to create a brand new fantastic remote. Uh I'm Nick Debusk, I'm Tammy Witty. Uh we'll just get started with everyone kind of letting each other know who they are and what you're doing, what your what your role is um. Go ahead. Dreama Faunce: Okay. I am Corinne Whiting and I will be Dreama Faunce and in each of the three phases I will have a different role. In the function design phase I will be talking about user requirement specification, and this means what needs and desires are to be fulfilled, and I'll be doing research to figure this out. In the conceptual design phase I will be dealing with trend watching and I'll be doing marketing research on the web. phase I will be doing product evaluation and so I will be collecting the requirements and ranking all the requirements to see how we did. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. April Montanez: Hiya, I'm Ryan. Um I'm April Montanez. Um likewise I've three different roles for each stage of design. Um the functional design is looking at the tex technical functions of a remote control. Um in the concept design, the user interface, how the user reacts with the the product. And the detailed design um sort of like the user interface design, what they might be looking for, uh things like fashions, what makes wha how we're gonna make it special. That's about it. Krystal Parker: Right. I'm Manuel and I'm the Designer in in this project um. In the functional design phase I'm I'll be dealing mostly with the requirements, um we'll discuss what the prog what functions the the product has to fulfil and so and so on. Um I suppose we'll work pretty much together on that one. Um um in the conceptual design um I'll be pro mostly dealing with properties and materials um of our product. And look and feel of the product itself, um so we're pretty much working together obviously on the design front here. Okay. Tammy Witty: Okay. Um so we've got our opening, our our agenda the opening, uh acquaintance which we've kinda done. Uh tool training, project plan discussion and then closing. Uh grand total of twenty five minutes we have here. Um so we are putting together a new remote control. Um we want it to be something original. Um of course we're a not only a electronics company but a fashion um conscious electronics company, so we want it to be trendy um and we want it to be easy to use. Um we've got the functional design, conceptual design and detailed design um which basically is is the three of you um. And w uh well um functional design um. Um do we have um any ideas of of maybe d let's just throw out some ideas of what kind of remote control we want to have, and then we can go into how we're gonna design it and and how we're gonna do the detailing on it. April Montanez: Yeah. Well uh s function of remote control is just just you know, change channels is its main function. Tammy Witty: So we want it to be um a T_V_ remote or I I mean do we want it to to do other things besides just be a a television remote? April Montanez: Oh right. I suppose you c try make it a universal remote Tammy Witty: 'Kay. April Montanez: for could work on all sort of electrical products in in one person's house. Dreama Faunce: Mm. April Montanez: But, you know, they all sorta have the same role changing channels, volumes and then programming. Tammy Witty: Mm-hmm. 'Kay. April Montanez: I think Krystal Parker: Mm. April Montanez: they all work on the same prin principle as well sorta like I don't actually know. But is it just infra-red? Is that standard? Tammy Witty: I April Montanez: Ye Tammy Witty: I think yeah, April Montanez: yeah. Tammy Witty: yeah, r universal remote. Um this is my first uh go-round Dreama Faunce: Huh. Tammy Witty: with creating a remote control, so Dreama Faunce: Ours too. Tammy Witty: I think we're all in the same boat here. Um April Montanez: Um one thing I thought of with the remote control is you always lose 'em. Tammy Witty: Okay. Dreama Faunce: Mm. April Montanez: So if there's a g a way Dreama Faunce: Ch April Montanez: of finding it quite easily, Tammy Witty: So April Montanez: I thought that'd Tammy Witty: we April Montanez: be Tammy Witty: should April Montanez: quite good Tammy Witty: we April Montanez: quite Tammy Witty: should April Montanez: a good feature. Tammy Witty: set our remote control up to where it has a uh Dreama Faunce: Like a tracking device? Tammy Witty: like a tracking device April Montanez: Oh Tammy Witty: or April Montanez: you can get those key Tammy Witty: or like a a April Montanez: well you could whistle or make a noise Tammy Witty: It April Montanez: and Tammy Witty: makes April Montanez: it'd Tammy Witty: a noise, April Montanez: beep. Tammy Witty: there's a button Krystal Parker: Mm, mm. Tammy Witty: on the T_V_ that you press Dreama Faunce: Mm. April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: and Krystal Parker: Right. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Dreama Faunce: Be good. Krystal Parker: So April Montanez: Generally, all remotes are sort of quite similar in their appearance. Tammy Witty: Yeah. April Montanez: Just long. Tammy Witty: Do we want so they're kinda like long and rectangular. April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: Do April Montanez: Black Tammy Witty: we want April Montanez: usually. Tammy Witty: something crazy? You know, April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: we want something new that's gonna Dreama Faunce: Lot more Tammy Witty: stand Dreama Faunce: modern. Tammy Witty: out. April Montanez: I Tammy Witty: A April Montanez: think Tammy Witty: m a April Montanez: so. Tammy Witty: modern so our remote should April Montanez: Maybe Tammy Witty: be April Montanez: sorta spherical or something. A ball. Dreama Faunce: Maybe like user-friendly, like a little April Montanez: Yeah. Dreama Faunce: you know, where you can use both hands, like a little keyboard type April Montanez: People Dreama Faunce: thing. Krystal Parker: Mm. April Montanez: I thought maybe, because people always tend to throw a remote control about the place to one another if it was in a ball, and Tammy Witty: 'Kay. April Montanez: maybe the actual controls are inside or something. Dreama Faunce: Mm. Tammy Witty: Um. Krystal Parker: Well there are of course certain restrictions, you can't have it be any form and fulfil all functions at the April Montanez: Yeah. Krystal Parker: same time, so there are always the some restrictions we have to apply here. Um however um one question is how stable is that thing supposed to be, that refers to the material, pretty much um. Dreama Faunce: Mm. Krystal Parker: What are we gonna build that thing out of? How sturdy is it gonna be? Do we want it to last longer or rather have people whatever, Tammy Witty: Okay Krystal Parker: have Tammy Witty: so Krystal Parker: to buy one Tammy Witty: yeah, Krystal Parker: every Tammy Witty: so April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: we Krystal Parker: half Tammy Witty: want Krystal Parker: a Tammy Witty: it Krystal Parker: year? Tammy Witty: to be sturdy, we want it to to hold up to somebody's child, you know, throwing it across the room or, as you said, people kinda throw it, so April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: ball-shaped, uh you know, if it were ball-shaped maybe, April Montanez: It could Tammy Witty: then April Montanez: be Tammy Witty: it April Montanez: cased on the outside and t everything could be inside. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Um so we want it to be modern, fun, sturdy, um So our form and our function. Um we want it to be um easy to find. Tammy Witty: Um What else it what else do we want it to to do? So we want it to be universal. It's something that we're supposed to sell for about twenty five Euros um and you know, goals for profits are I think somewhere around uh fifty million Euros, what they wanna make on it, so. Dreama Faunce: Mm. Also since we're partners of the International Remote Control Association, maybe we wanna make it something that would globally appeal. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Dreama Faunce: That's more on the research end, but the marketing. Tammy Witty: So marketing, you know, how maybe uh marketing, you could s find out what is the most universally um appealing remote control out there. Dreama Faunce: Yeah. And maybe as far as design goes, maybe we could have different ones for different target audiences, Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Dreama Faunce: 'cause maybe April Montanez: Ye Dreama Faunce: one won't apply to April Montanez: Small. Dreama Faunce: all of the countries we're targeting. Krystal Parker: Right. Tammy Witty: Um Tammy Witty: Do you guys have any ideas for what it should look like? Maybe we could draw it up on the on the board over there. Some ideas? We want it to be a b a ball, April Montanez: I'd I could draw Tammy Witty: you know, April Montanez: sorta Tammy Witty: we'll April Montanez: the Tammy Witty: draw April Montanez: ball Tammy Witty: up April Montanez: idea. Tammy Witty: we'll draw up the ball and maybe th um where the buttons are located. April Montanez: My original idea was just simply sort of a sphere, where maybe you this is where it's connected together, and then when you open it out, it could fol it could be maybe flip, like a flip phone, and then when you fold it out the middle Maybe a hinge that'll have to be the strongest part of it. If that if we did use a hinge, or if it was just two parts, and then you'd have just sorta you you you know, your buttons. Thing is inside I think, sometimes remotes have too many buttons, so maybe as simple as possible, um as few buttons inside as possible. Um, I dunno, what's the idea for. Just something maybe if you ha if it had like if some kind of like light or something or lights around it. It's looking a bit like something out of Star Wars at the moment though, to be fair. But yeah. Dreama Faunce: Futuristic. April Montanez: That was that was a sorta simple idea I had Tammy Witty: Uh-huh. April Montanez: and then you know you could about Right, it would almost be like a ball. So that was just just an idea I had. I don't know whether anybody else has other ideas? Krystal Parker: Right. One problem you'd get with this design is um the ball is a nice idea because of it's stability April Montanez: Yeah. Krystal Parker: really, but of course, since it's a ball, it'll roll, so April Montanez: Yeah. Krystal Parker: we'd have to have it flat on one April Montanez: Maybe Krystal Parker: side April Montanez: f yeah. Krystal Parker: at least, down here somewhere, take away that part. That's one of the big issues. April Montanez: Yeah, Krystal Parker: Also April Montanez: that's g that's a good idea. Krystal Parker: also you risk the hinges here. April Montanez: Yeah. Krystal Parker: That's that's um April Montanez: The Krystal Parker: a April Montanez: idea Krystal Parker: problem. April Montanez: it didn't have to necessarily be f a hinge, that Krystal Parker: That's April Montanez: was just one idea though. Krystal Parker: that's interesting of course, but that's of course a weak point, yeah. April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: How would we go about um making you know getting rid of our weak points? What I mean would we just have a flat spot on the bottom of the ball? Not to put you on the spot, Krystal Parker: E No Tammy Witty: but Krystal Parker: no, uh uh. Tammy Witty: What did you say your Krystal Parker: N Tammy Witty: title Krystal Parker: n Tammy Witty: was again? Krystal Parker: Uh, I'm your Tammy Witty: You're the Krystal Parker: Industrial Designer, Tammy Witty: Krystal Parker. Krystal Parker: so i b well, the point is that well maybe I dunno. The shape is perhaps not the most ideal. Tammy Witty: Okay. Krystal Parker: As as stable as it is, there must be a compromise between um April Montanez: Well I I suppose that things become Krystal Parker: stability April Montanez: design. Krystal Parker: and design Dreama Faunce: Mm-hmm. Krystal Parker: here, April Montanez: But I Krystal Parker: so. April Montanez: mean i I was trying to think of like the design of others. I can't think of anything other than a long rectangle for remote, maybe small, sort of fatter ones, but Tammy Witty: Yeah. April Montanez: there's nothing being done sort of out of left Tammy Witty: It's April Montanez: field, Tammy Witty: not new, it's not April Montanez: yeah. Tammy Witty: innovative, it's you know, everybody does long remote because it's April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: easy, it's it's stable um. Dreama Faunce: 'Kay, I'll draw something. Tammy Witty: So if Dreama Faunce: What? Tammy Witty: no, go ahead. Dreama Faunce: My idea was just to have it be kind of like a keyboard type shape, you know, like video April Montanez: Yeah. Dreama Faunce: games l so. But maybe I mean that would be kinda big and bulky. We could also try to do the hinge thing, so it could like flip out that way. I don't know. That's my idea. April Montanez: I think definitely doing something different Dreama Faunce: Yeah. April Montanez: is a good idea. Krystal Parker: Mm. April Montanez: I mean maybe design something, that's sort of like uh I suppose not everybody's everybody's hand's the same, but something that would maybe fit in the hand easier. Tammy Witty: Something Dreama Faunce: Mm. Tammy Witty: with a grip. April Montanez: Yeah, Dreama Faunce: Yeah. April Montanez: with a grip. Tammy Witty: Yeah. Because even I suppose even with the ball April Montanez: It still might be hard to Tammy Witty: it's April Montanez: it still not Tammy Witty: it might April Montanez: the ho Tammy Witty: not be the easiest April Montanez: easiest Tammy Witty: to hold April Montanez: thing Tammy Witty: onto April Montanez: to hold, yeah. Tammy Witty: um. Krystal Parker: Mm. Tammy Witty: So perhaps the the joystick April Montanez: Like Tammy Witty: the April Montanez: yeah. Tammy Witty: the keyboard idea might work better. But then again, people like to use one hand to flip and one hand to hold their soda, April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: so maybe Dreama Faunce: True. Tammy Witty: maybe April Montanez: It's Tammy Witty: we April Montanez: d yeah. I think it's definitely got to be a a one-handed Dreama Faunce: Mm. April Montanez: a one-handed job. Tammy Witty: I feel like I'm just shooting everything down here. Uh Dreama Faunce: That's fine. Tammy Witty: um Dreama Faunce: You're the boss, you're allowed to. Krystal Parker: Well with the one-handed design you also have the the problem of the size w 'cause you know from cell phones, they can be too small. So Dreama Faunce: Yeah. Krystal Parker: if the Tammy Witty: Yeah. Krystal Parker: remote is too small it if it's small it probably looks better, but may not be th as functional. So for that there's Tammy Witty: Okay, so Krystal Parker: So Tammy Witty: unfortunately we've got about five minutes here to come up with our um remote control idea and start rolling with it. Um we've talked about our experiences with remote control and um we've got a couple ideas um. Let's see here. Tammy Witty: What if we had what if we had not only um say we went with the ball the ball function um, but maybe we give it sort of grips along the side s um to make it easier to hold on to. So you know um s so April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: onto that way. Course that'll then remove some of our our ball. Unless this unless this part were raised, so say the cover flips over and covers that part. So the grip is No, that wouldn't work either um. But if we're gonna make it flat on the bottom, then that eliminates our ball anyways. So if it were flat on the bottom and then had the sorta grips on the side here I guess, um and then flat uh And then we have the problem with the hinge. So if we're flat on the bottom, it's not gonna roll away, it'll stay where we want. Krystal Parker: The question is also, I dunno, d do you really always want to open that thing when you have to use it? Tammy Witty: Mm, that's true. Krystal Parker: It's probably going to lie around opened all the time anyway, so I don't know if a lid is a good idea. From stabil stability point of view uh it certainly is, but also you have to face it and take into account the more of these things break by accident, uh the more we sell. So it's don't make it too Tammy Witty: So Krystal Parker: stable Tammy Witty: we don't have it flip open. Krystal Parker: uh. Tammy Witty: We just have a ball April Montanez: But then maybe to go back to the to th s Krystal Parker: To April Montanez: something Krystal Parker: the other April Montanez: along Krystal Parker: design. April Montanez: those things then. Tammy Witty: Okay, so then we forget the ball. Krystal Parker: It Dreama Faunce: Looks cool though. Tammy Witty: It looks cool, Krystal Parker: looks Dreama Faunce: Yeah. Krystal Parker: cool. Tammy Witty: but it's really not it's not Krystal Parker: Uh Tammy Witty: functional Krystal Parker: functional. Tammy Witty: um. So we've got our sort of keyboard kind. What if we flipped it around here, so that it were um Sorry, that doesn't look anything like what you had there. Um so it's up and down, you hold it this way. Course April Montanez: Yeah. Tammy Witty: then it's it's like the rectangular again, only with a couple of jutting out points. Krystal Parker: Right. Right. Tammy Witty: But it's one-handed um. Krystal Parker: Question is what makes those game pads functional? W I think that's pretty much the form for full hand. So it's a round shape underneath that makes it comfy, Dreama Faunce: Mm. Tammy Witty: Yeah. Krystal Parker: right, makes it nice, so that's the essential part. Except for that I think Tammy Witty: Yeah. Krystal Parker: we'll not probably not get a get away from some longer design. Dreama Faunce: Right. Krystal Parker: 'Cause you also have to know which way around to point this thing. Tammy Witty: Yeah, Krystal Parker: You know, all that dif Tammy Witty: because Krystal Parker: batteries Tammy Witty: it doesn't have a cord, Krystal Parker: right, Tammy Witty: like Krystal Parker: and Tammy Witty: joysticks do. Krystal Parker: Batteries go weak as well, so um after a while you have to point it towards the uh towards the equipment you wanna control with it, right? So, have to m show which is the front, which is the back. Tammy Witty: Is it possible to have it to where it would work with a like a sensor on either side? So that Krystal Parker: I suppose Tammy Witty: either Krystal Parker: you could Tammy Witty: way Krystal Parker: do Tammy Witty: you're Krystal Parker: that. Tammy Witty: pointing it it would Krystal Parker: O Tammy Witty: work. Krystal Parker: of course the more technology you stick in that, the more Tammy Witty: More Krystal Parker: it'll Tammy Witty: expensive Krystal Parker: cost, Tammy Witty: and Krystal Parker: so. Tammy Witty: yeah. Krystal Parker: Course you can do that. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Um Krystal Parker: I mean of course it'll be evident after a while or if you look at it, it'll it'll be evident which way around to point it, since you have the the numbers and the and the Tammy Witty: True. Krystal Parker: the buttons and stuff, but um it's rather about April Montanez: Put Krystal Parker: an April Montanez: it Krystal Parker: instinctual thing, like you just grab it, you don't have to s look at it, you know, which way around to point it. Otherwise the design of or the the point of putting two sensors on both sides um would probably work. April Montanez: Even if you designed it in some in a way that you know, isn't a rectangle, but still pointed in a direction that had definite points. So if that's your thing and you Dreama Faunce: Yeah. April Montanez: got something like that instead, and there's your s you kn you know which way you're gonna pointing it. Tammy Witty: 'Kay. Dreama Faunce: Sorry April Montanez: Um Dreama Faunce: to interrupt, but we have a warning Tammy Witty: Are we Dreama Faunce: to Tammy Witty: out Dreama Faunce: finish. Tammy Witty: of time? Dreama Faunce: Yeah. Krystal Parker: Mm. Tammy Witty: Okay, well, just to finish up, should we s go with this plan, start making some Tammy Witty: Are good ideas, what are not. Krystal Parker: Let's. April Montanez: Does it say what does Krystal Parker: Obviously April Montanez: it say for n it says on there what we need to do for the next meeting, I think. Tammy Witty: Uh. Must April Montanez: T Tammy Witty: finish now, so. And then marketing will look and see what uh what people want. Dreama Faunce: Mm. Krystal Parker: Alright. Dreama Faunce: Great. Tammy Witty: Okay. And Project Manager will design a better meeting for next time around, be a little bit more prepared. And uh alright, good meeting.	Tammy Witty opened the meeting and had the team members introduce themselves and describe their roles in the upcoming project. Tammy Witty then described the upcoming project. The team then discussed their experiences with remote controls. They also discussed the project budget and which features they would like to see in the remote control they are to create. The team discussed universal usage, how to find remotes when misplaced, shapes and colors, ball shaped remotes, marketing strategies, keyboards on remotes, and remote sizes.	4	amisum	train
Mona Stonis: Okay. Mona Stonis: Right. Okay. Mona Stonis: Alright. everyone? Lenora Kelly: Yep. Maria Dawson: Yep. Mona Stonis: Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation, um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um, we just refreshed our our goal making the finest remote control available. Um we decided that, or we know that we need to use company colours, company logo. Um and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly, um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons. Um and that they often lose the it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would wanna make it simple. Um And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um And that it should look different than what's out there. Um Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it, older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it, and that it was probably a gimmick, that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um Then Maria Dawson um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user, the complex better for an engineer. Um Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote, something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote, because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source, um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip, which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand. And with a, just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that, leave it at that. So Marketing? Lenora Kelly: Okay. Mona Stonis: We're watching trends. Lenora Kelly: Can I have your Mona Stonis: I suppose Lenora Kelly: cable Mona Stonis: that you can Lenora Kelly: please? Mona Stonis: have this. Lenora Kelly: Thanks. Lenora Kelly: Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary, and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the Lenora Kelly: functional look-and-feel design, which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update, we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote, but we can try. Um and also, as opposed to last year, this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel. Okay so from that um, as we've already said, we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that, even if it's very subtle, we need to kind of trick our consumers, so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative, we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces, which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface, discussing some of those, um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple, have limited buttons, which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for. Um we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know, I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable. Maria Dawson: Oh it was sort of banana shaped. Lenora Kelly: Yeah. Mona Stonis: A banana shape? Lenora Kelly: Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is, I mean the stereotypically speaking, you kind of picture males with their remote controls, and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside. So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable, or I don't know, different options for female, male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that. Mona Stonis: So possibly Elizabeth Bradley: Alright. Mona Stonis: like a uh, sorry, just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones? Lenora Kelly: That's what I was thinking Maria Dawson: Those like, Lenora Kelly: yeah. Maria Dawson: yeah, sort of spongy Mona Stonis: You have one Maria Dawson: ones. Mona Stonis: with a flag, and one with a banana and one that's a spongy Lenora Kelly: Yeah. So Mona Stonis: feel to it. Lenora Kelly: when you buy your remote you can buy Mona Stonis: You can Lenora Kelly: various coverings. Mona Stonis: Mm various Maria Dawson: What's it called? Mona Stonis: covers. Maria Dawson: Cust you Lenora Kelly: Personalise Maria Dawson: personalised, Lenora Kelly: your remote. Maria Dawson: yeah. Mona Stonis: We could leave that to the cover department. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Lenora Kelly: Mm-hmm. Mona Stonis: We all know they've got nothing to do all day. Maria Dawson: Okay. Why can't I see the crazy. Um yeah I talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to, will use the, consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent, um, try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they, the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology, where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question, you program the answer, and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use, where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in, and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well, but there's various different remotes, once again with lots of different buttons on, making it more complicated. So, then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice, there is a voice recognition remote control, which can control mus multiple devices. I have a there is a picture. You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples, controls four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, V_C_R_, D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels, that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting, where there has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod, which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there, and really is, and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this, which is a a a kid's remote, where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components, maybe it can have more components you know, different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your um devices, as to what, you know, things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down, which may suggest volume down, could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that, which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think, d carrying on from what I've already said, a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing, where if it was to have a speech recognition thing, you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier, as the actual remote. Um I don't it could be a graphical display, the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I Oh yeah. Just. Where are we? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M they've even got things like that. Huge things. Which is just for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah? Elizabeth Bradley: That's industrial design Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: for cranes, stuff like Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: that. Lenora Kelly: Dunno. Maria Dawson: And Elizabeth Bradley: Makes Maria Dawson: that Elizabeth Bradley: sense, Maria Dawson: yeah. Mona Stonis: Notice Elizabeth Bradley: makes Mona Stonis: the Elizabeth Bradley: sense. Mona Stonis: giant dog bone shape? Also Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: good for Maria Dawson: See. Mona Stonis: animals. Maria Dawson: things. Maria Dawson: Why's my screen Elizabeth Bradley: Uh Maria Dawson: crazy? Elizabeth Bradley: Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior. Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there, and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design, as you can see there, what we have is the board, main board of the remote control. The underside, that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip, which is the, what we were talking about, this was is the device to recognise the signals the input, and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal, which later on is being, is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself. Its job is to wait for you to press a key, then to translate that key press into infrared light signals, um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it, I don't know if you can see that properly, with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have, don't have cables, but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it. Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side, which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version. Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course, it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell, or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic, rubber, as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would Lenora Kelly: Spongy? Elizabeth Bradley: that would serve that purpose. Um we could also use wood, or titanium. Mona Stonis: What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium? Elizabeth Bradley: Oh fya I don't have an information on that. However our company obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium, so I assume, I'm, I was given an okay to use it. It certainly is an expensive material, I'm aware of that, but I was given an okay. But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic, rubber, wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source, um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is, or what I was offered, or what we could use, is a basic bateer battery. Right? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough. Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is Maria Dawson: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: out of the question really. You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right? Um solar cell is interesting. May fail though, every here and there. Maria Dawson: Would you have to leave it by the window? Elizabeth Bradley: Mm. Maria Dawson: yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Yeah couch Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: for a week and yeah mm. Always Mona Stonis: Works Elizabeth Bradley: the Mona Stonis: well in Arizona Elizabeth Bradley: you Mona Stonis: but in Elizabeth Bradley: But Mona Stonis: Edinburgh Lenora Kelly: Y probably Elizabeth Bradley: exactly. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Lenora Kelly: not Mona Stonis: not Lenora Kelly: yeah. Mona Stonis: so Elizabeth Bradley: Um the kinetic energy thing um might work, um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work. So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control, then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um There's also restrictions to, when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented, um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to, when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip, but that's not up to Lenora Kelly to decide really. So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip, so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells, I assume right? Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: Or is Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: anybody still Mona Stonis: No Elizabeth Bradley: alright. Mona Stonis: I think Lenora Kelly: No. Mona Stonis: I Lenora Kelly: Hmm. Mona Stonis: think batteries are probably the way to go. Elizabeth Bradley: Alright. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um Um With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions. Maria Dawson: Would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of Lenora Kelly: Mm. Maria Dawson: a a Lenora Kelly: Like Maria Dawson: s Lenora Kelly: a covering. Maria Dawson: a cover on it Lenora Kelly: Yeah. Maria Dawson: which is just sort of soft and stuff. So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic. But then where do people hold it? Just Mona Stonis: Yeah. Maria Dawson: all be sort of spongy. Lenora Kelly: The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts, so they can remove it. Maria Dawson: So you Like the Elizabeth Bradley: You Maria Dawson: iPod? Elizabeth Bradley: can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used. Maria Dawson: Right. Elizabeth Bradley: Alright? So plastic yes, titanium yes, but this will of course influence the form. With plastic, as I understand it, you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular, uh add an L_C_D_ screen, and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Or wood even. Um if you wanna make it a particular shape, use plastic. Add Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: an L_C_D_ screen, add a scroll wheel, that'll be fine. Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much Mona Stonis: So Elizabeth Bradley: originality Mona Stonis: the ru Elizabeth Bradley: really. Mona Stonis: wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want? Or the rubbery we cannot? Elizabeth Bradley: With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted Mona Stonis: 'Kay. Elizabeth Bradley: it, but we cannot add scroll wheels, and we cannot Mona Stonis: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: add an L_C_D_ screen. Lenora Kelly: Mm. Mona Stonis: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: That's the tricky thing. Maria Dawson: Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen, and then j just sort of that initial shape we had, just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's thing if we did it yellow. Mona Stonis: Yeah. Maria Dawson: And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing. Mona Stonis: Is that an option, a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at Elizabeth Bradley: S Mona Stonis: certain spots? Elizabeth Bradley: Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: the functional side of it all. Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: So The fruit design um How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: obviously, but uh give it like the surface of an orange, banana, whatever. You name it. Maria Dawson: Mm. Mona Stonis: What Elizabeth Bradley: Just Mona Stonis: about a Elizabeth Bradley: design-wise. Mona Stonis: smell? T to the remote? Elizabeth Bradley: Mm. Nice one. Maria Dawson: You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different Lenora Kelly: Bright Maria Dawson: ye Lenora Kelly: citrus Maria Dawson: yellows. Lenora Kelly: colours yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Mm. Maria Dawson: I don't suppose we have to stick to Elizabeth Bradley: Well Maria Dawson: co Elizabeth Bradley: we we're supposed to stick Maria Dawson: Stick Elizabeth Bradley: to Maria Dawson: to the colours yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: the Lenora Kelly: Oh yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: company colours Lenora Kelly: Yellow Elizabeth Bradley: though, Lenora Kelly: and Elizabeth Bradley: that's Lenora Kelly: grey. Elizabeth Bradley: yellow and grey. Mona Stonis: Yellow and grey. Elizabeth Bradley: So what have we, lemon, banana, is Maria Dawson: Mm grapefruit. Mona Stonis: Grapefruit. Elizabeth Bradley: Grapefruit is what we'd go for, when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But mm. Mona Stonis: I would say, if I were to make a decision, I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: lower end of the spectrum of of importance. Um Lenora Kelly: I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous, like Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Well we have it banana-shaped Lenora Kelly: Well we kinda Elizabeth Bradley: already, Lenora Kelly: do yeah. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: kind of. So Mona Stonis: Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: fruit-minded remote Lenora Kelly: And if it's yellow? Mona Stonis: buyer. Elizabeth Bradley: Right. Maria Dawson: and if it if it was done yellow, which Mona Stonis: It's Maria Dawson: is a company Mona Stonis: it's yellow. Maria Dawson: colour. Elizabeth Bradley: I it's yellow. Mona Stonis: It's Lenora Kelly: Grey buttons Mona Stonis: curved. Lenora Kelly: yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: Well so why Mona Stonis: It's Elizabeth Bradley: not add Mona Stonis: sort Elizabeth Bradley: a couple Mona Stonis: of Elizabeth Bradley: of grey stripes and make Mona Stonis: couple Elizabeth Bradley: it look Mona Stonis: of Elizabeth Bradley: like a banana? Mona Stonis: couple Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: of grey stripes. We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person Maria Dawson: On the Mona Stonis: could turn Maria Dawson: the gr Mona Stonis: it Maria Dawson: the Mona Stonis: over. Maria Dawson: rubbery grips could be Mona Stonis: It would look like Maria Dawson: grey. Mona Stonis: a banana Lenora Kelly: Mm. Mona Stonis: just sitting on their table. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: There you go. Mona Stonis: Rather than rather th Maria Dawson: It could and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl, Lenora Kelly: Oh. Maria Dawson: on the coffee table, and then people would always know where it was. Mona Stonis: Maybe the holder, Lenora Kelly: Nice. Mona Stonis: if we were Lenora Kelly: Could Mona Stonis: to have Lenora Kelly: look Mona Stonis: a Lenora Kelly: like Mona Stonis: holder, Lenora Kelly: a fruit Mona Stonis: it could Lenora Kelly: bowl. Mona Stonis: be shaped Elizabeth Bradley: It could Mona Stonis: like Elizabeth Bradley: be Mona Stonis: a fruit. Elizabeth Bradley: an ape. Mona Stonis: Could Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: be, it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: could have a variety of options here. Lenora Kelly: 'Kay. Elizabeth Bradley: Yeah. Mona Stonis: Do you have more to your presentation? Elizabeth Bradley: That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials, Mona Stonis: Oh. Elizabeth Bradley: what the interior has to look like, and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go. Mona Stonis: Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. Elizabeth Bradley: Sure. Mona Stonis: If Elizabeth Bradley: Hang on. Mona Stonis: I could. Elizabeth Bradley: There you go. Mona Stonis: Um ow. Ow. Lenora Kelly: So is the two piece idea out? Or have we not decided? Maria Dawson: Well we sort of rid of that because gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary. Lenora Kelly: Oh right okay. Elizabeth Bradley: Well we can still design a two-piece Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: uh remote um without having a base, having one of them be a base station, Maria Dawson: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions, or you take Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: out the smaller piece. We can still do that. However of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much. Mona Stonis: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Bradley: So um which then, as I understand it, would probably limit the, limit again the the the use of certain materials, because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them, or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on. Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there. Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: But could be done, of course. Mona Stonis: Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source, um the chip-on-print, and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape, what, what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um Energy source I think we've, I think we've decided batteries, although not exciting, are probably our best bet. Elizabeth Bradley: Right. Mona Stonis: And we have five minutes. Elizabeth Bradley: Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print, as I said, the the more advanced features you want, um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version, the chip-on-print Lenora Kelly: Mm. Elizabeth Bradley: is gonna be a cheap one. Right? Mona Stonis: 'Kay. So Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case, or the the plastic case, um then the chip-on-print is still kind of, we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex. Elizabeth Bradley: Yeah. Mona Stonis: But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us? Lenora Kelly: Well what about what you said, like putting Maria Dawson: Just Lenora Kelly: the Maria Dawson: just Lenora Kelly: finger Maria Dawson: maybe Lenora Kelly: grips Maria Dawson: yeah. Lenora Kelly: just on Maria Dawson: Just Lenora Kelly: top Maria Dawson: a little Lenora Kelly: of the plastic? Maria Dawson: bit of. Mona Stonis: Okay. So we would, we would have the L_C_D_ screen? Elizabeth Bradley: as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls, yes. Mona Stonis: 'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic, with Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's Maria Dawson: Yeah. Mona Stonis: more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe. Lenora Kelly: Yeah. Elizabeth Bradley: M more of a l lamination perhaps. Maria Dawson: Yeah. Lenora Kelly: So then for the scroll, are we going for the iPod type? Maria Dawson: Yeah I think so. Lenora Kelly: Yeah? Maria Dawson: I think. Lenora Kelly: Okay. Mona Stonis: Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right? Elizabeth Bradley: Yes. It does. Mona Stonis: 'Kay. So Mona Stonis: I guess that, is that, is that about it? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this? Elizabeth Bradley: Right. Mona Stonis: Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um Here's what's gonna be going on. Um Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design. Elizabeth Bradley: Right. Mona Stonis: Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface. So that basically just be working on the prototype, uh we'll accomplish your other two actions. Mona Stonis: Alright. Okay. Let's do it.	Mona Stonis reviewed the minutes of the previous meeting. Lenora Kelly discussed the results of trend watching reports which indicated a need for products which have a fancy look and feel, are technologically innovative, easy to use, include a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy in feel. Lenora Kelly stressed the need to incorporate these findings into the team's design and suggested that the team should create a remote that has limited buttons , can be personalized, and is not rectangular. Maria Dawson briefly described how speech recognition technology works and what ways a user can use a remote. Maria Dawson presented three existing products on the market - a voice recognition remote, an iPod, and a children's remote - and discussed a few features to include in the team's design. Elizabeth Bradley discussed the interior workings of a remote and the restrictions involved in combining various components, energy sources, and materials. Elizabeth Bradley also discussed with the how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into their design. The team then discussed and decided what components, materials, and energy sources to use.	4	amisum	train
Lisa Love: Okay. Beth Foster: Or you get it. Okay. Lisa Love: No I don't think so it has to like yeah and you have to adjust the length. Lisa Love: Okay, and then. Ignacia Manzanares: So we uh we will wait for Anna Lisa Love: Yeah, Ignacia Manzanares: a few minutes. Lisa Love: s yeah, um. Beth Foster: Mm. Yours is well Lisa Love: I think you can put anywhere you want, actually. Beth Foster: Yeah Lisa Love: I Beth Foster: but Lisa Love: thin Beth Foster: the the mic should not Lisa Love: It's not a directional mic, anyway. Ignacia Manzanares: I think it should work like this. Lisa Love: Uh. Ignacia Manzanares: So I will try to get my presentation running. Beth Foster: Yeah. Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Mm. Beth Foster: Mm. Can't help you with that. Lisa Love: Last. Ignacia Manzanares: It's Beth Foster: Okay, Ignacia Manzanares: no Beth Foster: it's Ignacia Manzanares: matter. Beth Foster: y yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: No problem. Ah yes. Beth Foster: Right. Lisa Love: Okay. Beth Foster: Then press uh al Lisa Love: Okay. Beth Foster: This. Ignacia Manzanares: I don't Beth Foster: You Ignacia Manzanares: know. Beth Foster: know? Ignacia Manzanares: Just try. Lisa Love: 'Kay. Ignacia Manzanares: On Beth Foster: Oh oh. Ignacia Manzanares: this normal Lisa Love: Alt F_ five. Ignacia Manzanares: Good. Doesn't appear on the screen here. Beth Foster: Right well Ignacia Manzanares: Oh. Beth Foster: Wow. Amazing. It's working. Ignacia Manzanares: Okay. Thank you. Uh. Dorothy Harris: Hold that. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes and you Dorothy Harris: Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: can put can clip it uh on your Somewhere. Dorothy Harris: Okay. Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: So, good morning, everyone. Um Welcome uh at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project. I hope you all have been uh updated about it. Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Good. Lisa Love: So. Yes. Ignacia Manzanares: So w we will try to structure this uh meeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here. Um after the opening we will tr get acquainted to each other. See what our roles are in this project. So, um We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh to communicate and to well, learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh to get acquainted to this tools so they are also new to Dorothy Harris I don't know whether you worked with them before. Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan. You all know I hope how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going Lisa Love: Total. Ignacia Manzanares: to design. Uh then we will uh discuss uh, well, how it should be and uh wh what uh what our new product should look lite like. And uh well then uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting. So. Um basically this is about a uh a new c remote control. Um We When you design a new product you of uh you of course want it to be original. Be uh we want to be distinguished, mm? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think, well that's the product I I need. So it needs to be trendy. I mean trendy is what people want, so then I w they will buy our product. But then, uh, it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it will not be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that. So, the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through a functional design phase. Um You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase and uh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design. And the same holds for the uh ph two phases uh after this, the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the final project should get its definite shape. Alright, but first we will do some uh tool training. In all in front of you uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a a a white-board. Lisa Love: Whitebo Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: And um well it should work uh I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work with some kind of toolbar. I didn't find out yet how it work, but maybe one of you did, so Um Beth Foster: Under documents in the shared folder. Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Do Do we have to say something about that? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared folder uh. Beth Foster: Yeah, I guess we'll have a shared folder uh with documents that we can share. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes Beth Foster: yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: well we will then find out ho how it works. Beth Foster: Yes. Ignacia Manzanares: Um. Well, this seems to Dorothy Harris, yes, some computer program but I didn't find it yet. So, we'll come to that later. So, uh now we will try out the white-board we have here. So, I would suggest uh Beth Foster: Each of us is going. Ignacia Manzanares: Well, yes, um we uh we should try to t to draw on it and then well it should be smart some way. I I'm not really sure how this works, but Beth Foster: Okay, shall I start? Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: Yeah, Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Lisa Love: you Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, Lisa Love: can start Ignacia Manzanares: a good Lisa Love: it Ignacia Manzanares: idea Lisa Love: you know. Dorothy Harris: I think for us Ignacia Manzanares: Mael. Dorothy Harris: it's just like a normal whiteboard, but they'll be recording Beth Foster: So, Dorothy Harris: what we Beth Foster: i Dorothy Harris: write down. Lisa Love: No they will record through that. There's a sensor over Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: there which is going to record Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: the strokes Dorothy Harris: But Lisa Love: that Dorothy Harris: for Lisa Love: you Dorothy Harris: us Ignacia Manzanares: Okay. Lisa Love: make. Dorothy Harris: it's just like a normal whiteboard. Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: 'Kay. Beth Foster: But it's Actually, I think I cannot go with uh Ignacia Manzanares: You you D doesn't it work? Maybe someo Maybe maybe Anna, maybe Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: you can start. Then he can maybe find out to get his cord right. Dorothy Harris: I have Ignacia Manzanares: So Dorothy Harris: to draw. Ignacia Manzanares: um L Why don't you draw uh your favourite animal on on th on Dorothy Harris: M Ignacia Manzanares: the white-board. Dorothy Harris: my my favourite animal. Sorry this is all tangled up here. Ignacia Manzanares: Oh, I see uh Dorothy Harris: That's better. Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Yeah. Yes. Mm. So draw it. We will try to Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: guess what it is. Dorothy Harris: I'm a very bad drawer. Weird. my drawing. I'm a bad drawer. Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: Mm. Dorothy Harris: They're Lisa Love: 's a Dorothy Harris: ears, Lisa Love: cat. Dorothy Harris: by the way. No. Um close though. Okay so like a pet animal. Beth Foster: Okay. Dorothy Harris: Like a cat. Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: It's like a cat, so I guess it's a cat. Dorothy Harris: No, not a cat though. Ignacia Manzanares: What is this now? Lisa Love: Ah you forget about it. Beth Foster: You're on the knife. Lisa Love: Yeah, uh I think it's fine. I just don't want to carry it off. Man, this wires, eh? We need a wireless microphone. You know? Pro specially we should next project we should take l like that. Ignacia Manzanares: So, Dorothy Harris: Okay. So. Ignacia Manzanares: that's Dorothy Harris: It's Ignacia Manzanares: the cat. Dorothy Harris: not a Ignacia Manzanares: Oh. Dorothy Harris: cat, it's Lisa Love: So. Dorothy Harris: a dog. Beth Foster: Mael. Ignacia Manzanares: It's a dog. Dorothy Harris: Yes. Ignacia Manzanares: So but that's also kind of Lisa Love: Oh Ignacia Manzanares: cat, Lisa Love: the dog Ignacia Manzanares: isn't Lisa Love: doesn't Ignacia Manzanares: it? Lisa Love: have a tail? Dorothy Harris: It's Ignacia Manzanares: B Dorothy Harris: got a tail then. Ignacia Manzanares: bo Lisa Love: Yeah, Ignacia Manzanares: both predators. Lisa Love: sure, yeah. Dorothy Harris: Yeah yeah. Lisa Love: I thought so. The dogs have a tail. Ignacia Manzanares: So, thank Dorothy Harris: So do Ignacia Manzanares: you. Dorothy Harris: cats. Ignacia Manzanares: Uh d did you uh Dorothy Harris: And you guessed cats Ignacia Manzanares: work Dorothy Harris: without Ignacia Manzanares: out Dorothy Harris: a Ignacia Manzanares: cord? Dorothy Harris: tail. Lisa Love: Yeah. Beth Foster: Yeah, I think I will go without Dorothy Harris: Okay. Beth Foster: without it, right? Ignacia Manzanares: Okay. Lisa Love: It'll still not extend, right? It's not up to that. Dorothy Harris: Okay, there you go. So what favourite characteristics. Uh. Dogs are always friendly and loyal and fun. Dorothy Harris: A horse? Lisa Love: It's a horse. Dorothy Harris: This is why you're the designer. And I'm marketing. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Yes, yes this is Yes definitely a horse. Yes. Oh very good. So Dorothy Harris: Ah Ignacia Manzanares: I suppose Lisa Love: Ah Ignacia Manzanares: it Lisa Love: I think you can put that. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. That's it. A blue and black zebra. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Can you can meet them in Africa, I think. Yes. Very good. So Dorothy Harris: The very rare blue zebras. Yes. Lisa Love: I'll Ignacia Manzanares: Ma Matthew? Lisa Love: tell to get it off my Uh? Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: So Dorothy Harris: You got a lot Ignacia Manzanares: Maybe Dorothy Harris: of room here. You can probably reach. Lisa Love: Oh y it's not for that. Dorothy Harris: No? Lisa Love: No. Ignacia Manzanares: I hope you have some space in your uh the Lisa Love: Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: horse Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: of uh Mael. Lisa Love: So what should I draw? Mm. He has already to do cat. Dorothy Harris: I took a dog. Dorothy Harris: Um. A mouse? Ignacia Manzanares: This looks likes a cat who has been driven over. Dorothy Harris: Okay. Beth Foster: Yeah. And we should sum up its favourite charas characteristics, right? Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: So Ignacia Manzanares: That's that's definitely a cat. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: Uh yeah. And i Th They like to sleep, that's why you said you they are like this. Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: It's quite, you know relaxed situation. Yes. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, okay. Beth Foster: She has the small legs. Ignacia Manzanares: Th thank you, Matthew. Beth Foster: Yeah. Thank you, Matthew. Dorothy Harris: It's Beth Foster: Perfect. Dorothy Harris: a very big rat. Or a very small Beth Foster: Oh Dorothy Harris: cat. Beth Foster: a rat, okay. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, this is certain uh some contribution to our Beth Foster: And Ignacia Manzanares: project. Beth Foster: you, Dorothy Harris: Mm 'kay. Your turn. Ignacia Manzanares: So. Let's see. Which animal has not been drawn yet. Ignacia Manzanares: So you've all drawn land animals, so why not draw an animal from Beth Foster: A bird. Ignacia Manzanares: the water. Beth Foster: Okay, in the water. Dorothy Harris: Ah I don't know what that is. It's Beth Foster: Mm. Dorothy Harris: a bit It's a bit hard to guess. Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Mm. Lisa Love: So Beth Foster: Put it colours. Maybe it would help Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Beth Foster: us. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Lisa Love: The cat is going to eat the fish or Beth Foster: With Lisa Love: the Beth Foster: different Lisa Love: rat? Beth Foster: pen widths. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm Ignacia Manzanares: So Dorothy Harris: Oh, it's a shark now. Beth Foster: Ah it's a shark, yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Oh, yes, why not? Good idea. Lisa Love: Ah it's a baby shark, it looks to Dorothy Harris, you Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: know it's going to eat the cat rather than the cat eating the fish, Beth Foster: Oh. Lisa Love: no? Dorothy Harris: Now it's a swordfish. Ignacia Manzanares: Why not. Beth Foster: You Ignacia Manzanares: A swordfish. Beth Foster: have some in in Australia, right? Dorothy Harris: Swordfish. Beth Foster: Yeah. Dorothy Harris: Um, Beth Foster: I dunno. Dorothy Harris: maybe. I've never Beth Foster: Oh Dorothy Harris: seen Beth Foster: well. Dorothy Harris: one, no. Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: I hope it still works. Beth Foster: Perfect. Ignacia Manzanares: So Beth Foster: So I dunno if we need to spend time on that, actually But uh Lisa Love: You should go for the Ignacia Manzanares: W Lisa Love: next Ignacia Manzanares: Well, Lisa Love: one Ignacia Manzanares: this Lisa Love: it seems to Ignacia Manzanares: uh Lisa Love: Dorothy Harris. Ignacia Manzanares: this tool seemed to work. Beth Foster: Yeah, Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: exactly, Ignacia Manzanares: Let's continue Beth Foster: yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: to uh to Beth Foster: Wow. Ignacia Manzanares: the real stuff. Um our project uh finance uh thing. Uh when we are and when w you are uh going to design w uh we must keep in mind that the selling price of the product uh will be about twenty five Euros, so when designing Lisa Love: Twenty four. Ignacia Manzanares: a project uh I also look at you uh Mael, Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: keep in mind uh uh uh People uh want to get the feeling this is a twenty five Euro project uh pr um Beth Foster: Per remote control, Ignacia Manzanares: product. Beth Foster: yeah? Dorothy Harris: Mm. Beth Foster: Per project. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Okay. Um more interesting for our company of course, p uh profit aim, about fifty million Euro. So we have to sell uh quite a lot of this uh um things. Uh we will try to uh to get at a international market uh so um it will be I think mainly Europe and uh Northern America, Lisa Love: Ah yeah, the sale man, Ignacia Manzanares: maybe Lisa Love: four Ignacia Manzanares: some uh Lisa Love: million. Ignacia Manzanares: Asian countries. Um also important for you all is um the the product uh production cost must be maximal uh twelve uh twelve Euro Beth Foster: So it's Ignacia Manzanares: and fifty cents. Beth Foster: half of the selling price, if I am good in Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, Beth Foster: mathematics. Ignacia Manzanares: of course. Uh um I mean we still have to uh to make a profit, huh? Beth Foster: Of Lisa Love: They Beth Foster: course. Lisa Love: have to sell Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: at least Ignacia Manzanares: You Lisa Love: four Ignacia Manzanares: all Lisa Love: million Ignacia Manzanares: have to be paid. Lisa Love: to make a profit Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: Ah Ignacia Manzanares: Excuse Lisa Love: we have Ignacia Manzanares: Dorothy Harris? Lisa Love: to make we have to sell at least four million to make our own profit. Beth Foster: Oh Lisa Love: Fifty Beth Foster: you're g very Lisa Love: mill Beth Foster: good in mathematics. Dorothy Harris: Yes. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, Beth Foster: Four Ignacia Manzanares: indeed. Beth Foster: million. Ignacia Manzanares: So uh Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: well I think w when we are working on the international market, uh in principle it has enough customers uh so when we have a good product we uh we could uh meet this this aim, I think. So, that about finance. And uh now just let have some discussion about what is a good remote control and uh well keep in mind this this first point, it has to be original, it has to be trendy, it has to be user friendly. Um, maybe someone can mention some additional uh prerequisites for Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: a good remote control. Lisa Love: Of course it should have a on off button. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, well i it should have the the the the expected functionality Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: uh of a remote control. Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Lisa Love: Yeah, s and it depends what application you are using it for. Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: You might need uh Ignacia Manzanares: We wer we were thinking television. Uh. Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: We are targ targeting the television set. So, Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: you need to record the channels. Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Mm-hmm. Lisa Love: You need to browse the browse the channels in upward Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, Lisa Love: downward Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: way, Ignacia Manzanares: yes. Th th that's very handy I I always miss it and on Lisa Love: Uh Ignacia Manzanares: some remote controls that Lisa Love: And Ignacia Manzanares: you can go channel up or down ins instead of Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: retyping the number, especially Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: when you have a lot Lisa Love: Uh, Ignacia Manzanares: of channels. Lisa Love: and Beth Foster: And uh just before starting the detailed discussion, maybe we You are the marketing guy? Or Dorothy Harris: I'm marketing. Beth Foster: th Lisa Love: Marketing. Beth Foster: So you are the marketing. Dorothy Harris: Yep. Beth Foster: And you are in the u use user interface Lisa Love: Yeah. Beth Foster: uh Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Beth Foster: design. So Lisa Love: Yeah. Beth Foster: just yeah I wanted to to be sure. Lisa Love: Sure. Beth Foster: And I I'm the Beth Foster Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: okay. Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Beth Foster: Because I Lisa Love: Oh. Beth Foster: I don't know you very well, actually, Lisa Love: I'm Beth Foster: but Lisa Love: Matthew. Beth Foster: yeah. Okay. Lisa Love: You know. Beth Foster: Mael. Lisa Love: Matth Beth Foster: Happy to meet you. Lisa Love: s uh Dorothy Harris: Anna. Beth Foster: Okay. Lisa Love: Anna. Beth Foster: It's very Lisa Love: And Ignacia Manzanares: A and Beth Foster: uh Ignacia Manzanares: I'm Nanne. Lisa Love: um uh Matthew, yeah. I Ignacia Manzanares: So Lisa Love: thi Beth Foster: Uh Lisa Love: think you know Beth Foster: so Lisa Love: Dorothy Harris, yeah? Beth Foster: yeah Lisa Love: right Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Lisa Love: yeah. Beth Foster: uh Just uh on your web page but uh yeah not uh Ignacia Manzanares: So. Um Beth Foster: not face to face. Ignacia Manzanares: S Lisa Love: So. Beth Foster: So Ignacia Manzanares: S Beth Foster: mm Ignacia Manzanares: s Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: Are Lisa Love: So Beth Foster: So Ignacia Manzanares: there Beth Foster: I Ignacia Manzanares: some other very important things to to do well, to specify in this first phase of of the project. So the browse function, Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: as you m Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: mentioned. Lisa Love: And Dorothy Harris: Oth Lisa Love: uh, Dorothy Harris: yeah. Lisa Love: you'd need the usual ones, like the changing the volume, changing the the channel and then Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Lisa Love: you Ignacia Manzanares: Yeah. Lisa Love: uh Today we have uh um teletext and all those things. Tomorrow you might have a some more functions which might come through that, Ignacia Manzanares: Yes. Dorothy Harris: Mm. Beth Foster: Like Lisa Love: so Beth Foster: what? Like internet on Lisa Love: Yeah Beth Foster: the Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: I_P_O_ Beth Foster: on Lisa Love: or. Beth Foster: T_V_? Lisa Love: Now we are looking for television things or I_P_. For Beth Foster: Yeah. Lisa Love: example personal video recorder Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: and all those stuffs are coming up. Dorothy Harris: But we can't really design Lisa Love: Yeah. Dorothy Harris: for something that hasn't been invented yet. Lisa Love: Ah it's it's it's it's coming up, actually. The personal video recorder and all those Ignacia Manzanares: Mm, Lisa Love: things it is coming Ignacia Manzanares: well Lisa Love: up. Ignacia Manzanares: uh I I think Uh Beth Foster: Actually, Ignacia Manzanares: w Beth Foster: yeah Lisa Love: Let's Ignacia Manzanares: y Beth Foster: w Lisa Love: Let's take Ignacia Manzanares: you two should should, I think, think this over uh w espec what, what functionality. Beth Foster: Of course, and first before um designing the func well thinking about the functionalities, we need to know what are the user requirements. Dorothy Harris: Mm. Yeah. Beth Foster: Um Ignacia Manzanares: Mm-hmm. Beth Foster: then Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Beth Foster: if they need internet, then we Dorothy Harris: Mm. Beth Foster: would be able to to p to propose something Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Beth Foster: with uh uh T_V_ over I_P_. But Dorothy Harris: But Beth Foster: before Dorothy Harris: Ninety percent of the time, ninety nine percent of the time, people will be using the main functions, the volume, the different channels, so we can have all the fancy things as well but the main controls need to be very obvious and very easy Ignacia Manzanares: Mm Dorothy Harris: to use. Ignacia Manzanares: mm mm. Keep k keep in mind i it's a it's a twenty five Euro unit, so uh uh the the very fancy stuff uh w we can leave that out, I think. So Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: twenty five Euro you expect a quite, well normal but Dorothy Harris: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: good functioning user friendly remote control. Lisa Love: Oh in that case you can you always hook up with uh someone who is providing that and you know, you you sell their product as well as your product with them, Dorothy Harris: Mm. Lisa Love: you know. Beth Foster: Yeah, Dorothy Harris: So Beth Foster: but Dorothy Harris: try Beth Foster: w Dorothy Harris: and Beth Foster: w Dorothy Harris: get T_V_ Beth Foster: we Dorothy Harris: manufacturers Beth Foster: want to design Dorothy Harris: to Beth Foster: a new one. Lisa Love: Yeah. No, it's okay, yeah I understand. Beth Foster: Mm. Lisa Love: So we need Beth Foster: Yeah. Lisa Love: some numbering buttons, some teletext things and then um Beth Foster: The Yeah, the main is Ignacia Manzanares: Yes, but Beth Foster: browsing. Ignacia Manzanares: but but ab Beth Foster: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: about the spec the buttons, the Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: buttons uh that will be on it. I I think we can discuss that in the in the next meeting. Lisa Love: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: Uh I would like to get this wrapped up and go to an end of this meeting. Lisa Love: Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: So Lisa Love: Okay, we are alread mm. Beth Foster: Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: So Lisa Love: Mm. Ignacia Manzanares: you know now the basic the basic things. Lisa Love: Yeah. Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: And well just Lisa Love: L Ignacia Manzanares: just for the next meeting, um well, uh, you wor yes, work on a design, keep it general, I mean so w we will be still fle flexible with maybe adding some functions. Beth Foster: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: So Um you will be working on on technical function design, so Lisa Love: Yeah, sure. Ignacia Manzanares: And uh you and you and uh uh uh well, think about requirements, eh? Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: Does it need internet, or or do do we stay at Lisa Love: Stam. Ignacia Manzanares: basic Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Ignacia Manzanares: basic television uh interface. So, uh I think we should now all go work uh uh at this and uh Dorothy Harris: Mm-hmm. Ignacia Manzanares: you will be informed via email and other kind of communication. Dorothy Harris: Yeah. Lisa Love: Okay. Ignacia Manzanares: So Beth Foster: Perfect. Ignacia Manzanares: next meeting will be in uh in thirty minutes uh. K keep it in mind.	The meeting begins with the group trying to resolve some equipment issues and waiting for Anna's arrival. Then Ignacia Manzanares introduces the meeting by saying they have some technical tools with which to communicate so they will try to get acquainted with them first. He starts talking about the product they are to design, a remote control which should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The general outline of the project will be the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They do some tool training by trying out the whiteboard, and each person draws his/her favorite animal on it. Ignacia Manzanares proceeds to talk about the project finance, which is followed by a group discussion about what functions a good remote control has. This includes the basics such as on/off, channel up/down browsing, volume and record button(s). At this point they clarify their names and roles in the group and then resume talking about remote control functions. They discuss some functions such as a personal video recorder, but say it is probable that they cannot produce a fancy device given their budget. Ignacia Manzanares closes the meeting by telling each group member what he/she will be working on.	4	amisum	train
June Thomas: Right first time this time. Nu There we go. It's not that complicated, but I get it wrong every time. Linda Schultz: Okay so we are just waiting for June Thomas: For Linda Schultz: Matthew. June Thomas: Matthew, yep. Ruth Wagner: Mm. Ruth Wagner: Uh Ruth Wagner: So I suggest we start the uh without June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: Matthew uh Linda Schultz: Mm 'kay. Ruth Wagner: he's uh obviously late for some reason. Good. Um. Today uh we will uh talk about uh conceptual design. I hope uh you both did some uh some June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: work uh concerning a uh conceptual design. Um this will be the uh agenda for the meeting uh. Uh I will take some minutes uh again. June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: Um we will have the presentations of y of you different June Thomas: Yep. Ruth Wagner: team members, Linda Schultz: Yep. Ruth Wagner: and then to come decisions concepts uh have. So and Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: that uh will uh we have some uh forty minutes uh to complete this June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: uh. So um who has the fir do you ha Anna June Thomas: I have Ruth Wagner: do you June Thomas: a Ruth Wagner: have June Thomas: presentation, Ruth Wagner: your presentation June Thomas: I'm just Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: ready? June Thomas: making Linda Schultz: I June Thomas: this Linda Schultz: think yeah Ruth Wagner: Okay. Linda Schultz: the Matthew it is it's important that Matthew yeah is here because Ruth Wagner: Ah there is Matthew. Linda Schultz: it's really a a team uh project with a team and if someone is not April Harris: Sorry. Linda Schultz: here then we cannot but it's okay it's good. June Thomas: Okay I'll just email you this file, my presentation. Ruth Wagner: So. Good. Do presentation ready? June Thomas: Mm-hmm I'm just emailing it to you. Ruth Wagner: Oh okay. April Harris: So Ruth Wagner: So did you manage uh April Harris: Yeah I sent you the slides you didn't see them? Ruth Wagner: Oh yes I see him, April Harris: Okay. Ruth Wagner: good yes. No. April Harris: So 'Kay. June Thomas: Okay it should've gone through to you. Ruth Wagner: Okay mm yes I have it. June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Okay so this just a presentation on uh the trends that we're gonna use to make the product stand out from the rest of the products out there at the moment. Um can I just put this on? So we have to work out a way what we can do with our product to make it stand out and make it so people wanna buy it. Um. This is to do this I will not remove my microphone. We basically used um some focus group surveys which I went through with you last time, the main results of that, and um some research on the current design um and fashion trends that are out there at the moment um, and as part of this The important aspects that came out were things that we've already discussed really. The most important by far was the look and feel of it. It needs to be something that's very different from everything else out there. It needs to stand out. It needs to be not functional like the rest of the things out there at the moment. Most people find remote controls boring at the moment, we need to have something that looks interesting, that looks exciting, that will stand out. People will wanna buy it. Um That was twice as i important as the next item on here which is that it has to be technologically innovative has to have something else, apart from just the look of it. People have to then think about it and say got something there that I want. That's a really cool feature, and it has to make them wanna buy it again. Third on the list, and again innovative was twice as important as this last um aspect, it has to be easy to use. So they have to be able to be able to look at it and have some intuitive idea of how to use it um. Drawing on the fashion trends at the moment, uh fruit and vegetables um. This is basically talking about just the the feel of it, so probably not the smell of it, but the bright colours, um Ruth Wagner: Mm. June Thomas: eye-catching, really bold designs, Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: Mm. June Thomas: and a spongy feel. Um I had a talk to the design people about this, but having a remote that's tactile, that feels different, that would be really cool. That would make it stand out. Ruth Wagner: Hmm. June Thomas: Um. Linda Schultz: So can you repeat and be more precise about what you just said? Ruth Wagner: Spongy Linda Schultz: Uh Ruth Wagner: feel? Linda Schultz: about the feeling yeah uh June Thomas: Well Linda Schultz: yo June Thomas: ma April Harris: You June Thomas: make April Harris: can June Thomas: it not necessar sp spongy is the current thing. Spongy is the current texture, but basically there are no reports no remotes at the moment which are spongy or tactile at all, so if we make it like maybe furry or Linda Schultz: Okay. June Thomas: soft or something, that'll be something that sets it apart, Ruth Wagner: Mm. June Thomas: rather than just bare plastic which they all are at the moment. Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: Okay. June Thomas: So as far as the design goes, the very most important aspect was the design, to the customers. So going with the fruit and vegetable idea, we've got the bright colours, so makes it stand out, the oranges and the the bright yellows and the florescent colours, part of the fruit and vegetables um. Going back to the idea of taking inspiration from mobile phones, they've all got those a lot of them have the changeable covers, so they can choose what colour the outside is. That's one way of looking at it um. Textured feel we just talked about. Maybe it's Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. June Thomas: another way of doing that. So if it's part of the the changeable covers then may maybe they can choose a different texture, a spongy one or a soft one or something like that. So they can choose it li as they want to Linda Schultz: Yeah June Thomas: to maybe Linda Schultz: that's a very good yeah. June Thomas: to fit in with their decor in their living room, or just what they like, Linda Schultz: Yeah. June Thomas: their sports team or whatever. Um and yeah, still taking the inspiration from the mobile phone design so functionality, the way the mobile phones work, the way the keypad looks. Also just the way that a lot of industrial design is going into mobile phones at the moment. They're big selling items. People put a lot of thought into that so we can leverage off that, and we can start using some of their ideas. Um back to technological in in innovation, not quite as important, but still a big issue. Um we talked about having a way of finding a remote control if it's been lost, uh that's one thing we could look at. There are other aspects like L_C_D_ screens and speech recognition which weren't I don't think, in my personal opinion, gonna be worth the extra expense and the extra effort that will go into them. Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. June Thomas: I think we're better doing something basic like this which is very important and very will be a really cool feature to put in. And use. I had no real specific ideas for this, having your core functions big and at the top Ruth Wagner: Mm. June Thomas: maybe, by themselves, Ruth Wagner: Yes well maybe June Thomas: and Ruth Wagner: Matthew June Thomas: then Ruth Wagner: can can June Thomas: yeah April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: give June Thomas: and Ruth Wagner: some June Thomas: then Ruth Wagner: more June Thomas: th Ruth Wagner: information June Thomas: th the Ruth Wagner: on June Thomas: finer Ruth Wagner: the June Thomas: details of buttons you don't use as much either hidden away or completely separate. Ruth Wagner: Mm. April Harris: Voila. June Thomas: Yep and that's the presentation. Ruth Wagner: Okay good, that's very clear. Linda Schultz: Yeah April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: very clear. Ruth Wagner: 'Kay. Um. June Thomas: So does anyone have any comments Ruth Wagner: Uh June Thomas: or ideas on that? I think you Ruth Wagner: Maybe we yes well we maybe can decide later on um the l the the look and feel of uh I've it was a good idea maybe to to Linda Schultz: To let the people choose, Ruth Wagner: Yes Linda Schultz: you mean? Ruth Wagner: the the Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: the there are changeable covers, but on the other hand I I don't know whether my superiors would be so glad with it because you have to introduce a complete uh uh new l line of uh of supplies uh June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: it would be uh very complicated uh organisational June Thomas: Well we're selling so many units of this. This is gonna be a mass marketed product, Ruth Wagner: Hmm. June Thomas: we can afford to have two Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. June Thomas: or three different designs Linda Schultz: Yeah June Thomas: at least. Linda Schultz: a range of uh yeah, Ruth Wagner: Yes. Linda Schultz: a set June Thomas: Mm Linda Schultz: of three, four different June Thomas: mm. Linda Schultz: aspects. Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: Sure Ruth Wagner: Yes Linda Schultz: that fits the Ruth Wagner: and of course it will be a we we get a if it works we can get uh after-sales June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: I mean that would would be very good I mean Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: those covers could go for for three, five Euro. June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: That's a very good idea um And then uh maybe uh we can go a th Matthew's presentation because April Harris: Yeah s June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: the April Harris: then we could discuss later like we can put all ideas together. Ruth Wagner: Together indeed June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: uh, Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: because April Harris: It should Ruth Wagner: you Linda Schultz: yeah April Harris: be Ruth Wagner: ma April Harris: easier Ruth Wagner: might Linda Schultz: I Ruth Wagner: have April Harris: with Linda Schultz: agree. Ruth Wagner: some April Harris: that. Ruth Wagner: some information on the the easy to use, what April Harris: Yeah. June Thomas: Mm-hmm, Ruth Wagner: you were Linda Schultz: Yeah. June Thomas: yeah. Ruth Wagner: already mentioning. Linda Schultz: And April Harris: So Linda Schultz: your part is very related to mine because April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: when you suggest something then it April Harris: Yeah Linda Schultz: has to April Harris: so Linda Schultz: be integrated inside. April Harris: I'll I'll go with that actually June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: so um April Harris: Okay so m so then the the idea of uh having remote is generally you have uh keys and uh different, different forms, and uh they could be like buttons or like and um they could be of uh a varying sizes if you want to to uh basically emphasize a particular key more than the other, and uh maybe like you can have different colours for example having the r red for the on off switching on and off the button. So this this is the general trend to Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: ha June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: the method they do. So what I have found was that uh currently uh the they are mostly that the T_V_, V_C_R_, music system operated ones actually, and they are very specific to each other, but there are some common keys for example if you want to follow the V_C_R_ and if you want to follow the uh g uh s some uh soundtrack on the w w see they have the common thing actually June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: you can have and uh There is also um a speech recognition to store channel information, names, like You can basically if you have a multiple functionality, say T_V_, V_C_R_ or something I say it June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: to the T_V_ and the T_V_, and you can programme the keys if you want to, certain keys are even the channel information. June Thomas: Mm. I like the idea though of having speech recognition for like the n the name of a channel like B_B_C_, rather than having to remember the the number of it on the keypad. April Harris: Yeah June Thomas: That's a good idea. April Harris: yeah so you you you can just uh because uh as more and more channels come then you have more and more problems to remember the v v June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: exact channel numbers ex Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: exactly, even if you arrange it by however you arrange it, June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: you still have the problem to June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: remember exactly June Thomas: Yeah I really April Harris: which June Thomas: like that idea. April Harris: channel Linda Schultz: So April Harris: you Linda Schultz: what April Harris: want Linda Schultz: functionalities April Harris: to Linda Schultz: do you suggest for that? For April Harris: So Linda Schultz: facing April Harris: it Linda Schultz: this April Harris: it Linda Schultz: problem? April Harris: it's like it limited one. In the present market I saw it that says something like they are looking for eighty word thing, eighty word, June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: which shouldn't be th that difficult to implement, like eighty to hundred word. Basically you want you don't want to store all the channels in the June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: remote control, you want to st store your favourite channel. June Thomas: Maybe ten channels, April Harris: Yeah June Thomas: yeah April Harris: some June Thomas: at the most. April Harris: ten twelve channel information. You Linda Schultz: Okay. April Harris: know you don't want to st store all the hundred June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: channel information into that. And uh basically uh it depends like the remote with L_C_D_ display for browsing because you have multiple functionalities for example you are watching a movie, and uh uh you are having a universal remote control and you want to uh you don't know really which functionality is now, so I am using the T_V_ so every time I use it, it could be like, for example I can use a simple toggle switch, and a display, so I press it so the display says, okay, I'm in T_V_ or D_V_D_ or whatever June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. April Harris: it is, instead of having three keys separately Linda Schultz: Oh yeah yeah yeah April Harris: for four Linda Schultz: mm. April Harris: keys, to model the functionalities June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: will increase actually, Linda Schultz: Mm. April Harris: and for you and you might want June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: you don't want separate keys for all of them. You can't. And uh well there can be children friendly where you can programme your remote so that they they are not allowed uh to browse certain channels which you can block them, and you can operate them. Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. April Harris: So these are the things presently which are seen in the market scenarios at present. I personally would look at things like having a u universal remote, is uh um is a good idea, like instead of having unusual ones for all of them you can June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: think of having, um with multiple functionality possibly with speech recognition. I got a mail from the the coffee machine interface unit that uh they have uh integrated the s speech recognition into a into the coffee machine, and so June Thomas: Mm April Harris: if you June Thomas: b April Harris: say hello coffee machine, it say hi Joe, or something like that, you know, and June Thomas: But a coffee April Harris: uh June Thomas: machine, there's not too many words they'd be using with that it's a April Harris: Yeah June Thomas: it's April Harris: you you June Thomas: a April Harris: won't June Thomas: small April Harris: be June Thomas: vocabulary. April Harris: using it, so it's a limited vocabulary June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: mm thing, and very isolated word and June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: it's uh it is interesting, and basically storing the channel through voice or other ways of programming your keys, June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: on the display for the browsing which is again and maybe having something like a blinking thing, like uh it could indicate you're uh it it could indicate what is cal like the uh whether uh June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: you you have enough battery in your in your uh remote, Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: the blinking. At the same time, if it's a dark room, it can be used to locate the remote also or Linda Schultz: And you want okay for coming back to one June Thomas: Two thirty Linda Schultz: point June Thomas: five supposed Linda Schultz: y June Thomas: to Linda Schultz: you June Thomas: finish. Linda Schultz: want to let the user to programming the keys? Some of them? April Harris: Yeah you can let them to do Linda Schultz: And April Harris: that. Linda Schultz: uh isn't that too difficult for the we want w I don't know if we still want the um R_C_ to be easy to use, June Thomas: Hmm. Linda Schultz: that's the April Harris: N no but the Linda Schultz: compromise. April Harris: if you give it d depends on the easiness like Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: the user how much effort he can put. June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: Like for example uh I would like to store in certain way, so if you want to give the full freedom to the user June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: or Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: you want to keep some constraints June Thomas: Yeah. April Harris: and let the user use June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: it with that constraint. Linda Schultz: Yeah. June Thomas: I think April Harris: So June Thomas: you can April Harris: it June Thomas: do April Harris: de June Thomas: it both ways. You can have it so it's easy they can pick it up and use it straight away without Linda Schultz: A standard. June Thomas: doing anythi without customizing it, Linda Schultz: Yeah. June Thomas: or if they want to they have the option of using these extra features. Ruth Wagner: Um yes April Harris: So Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: but but I do maybe you can give a hand to us because I I'm not sure whether that that we can implement that for twelve Euro and fifty cents. I'm sorry June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: to have April Harris: So Ruth Wagner: Every time I have to come down on this price June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: again to so this might be a little limiting for your creativity, but June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: it's it's it's the real We have to consider it. S so Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: do we think these ideas an and my uh sp speech recognition, I mean maybe it's possible for for twelve Euro but then then it will be at cost of other functionality we might implement June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: like the uh uh the the the furry uh uh case of June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: the Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm yeah like I would say that for programming uh keys, you April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: said, uh it could be uh easily uh done within the the package of twel twelve Euros, Ruth Wagner: Mm. April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: but for the A_S_R_ system, uh I'm not sure if it's feasible to have April Harris: We Linda Schultz: this or April Harris: well we can still look Linda Schultz: We April Harris: at we can talk with the coffee unit and you can uh check Linda Schultz: Exactly April Harris: how much Linda Schultz: yeah April Harris: how Linda Schultz: i April Harris: much Linda Schultz: if if April Harris: they Linda Schultz: it's a low vocabulary April Harris: yeah Linda Schultz: it's already April Harris: yeah Linda Schultz: implemented, June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: yeah. Linda Schultz: and w how much it's cost, maybe with April Harris: Maybe Linda Schultz: a f April Harris: we can come Linda Schultz: cheap chip. Ruth Wagner: Mm April Harris: we we can Ruth Wagner: mm. April Harris: talk to them, and we can come with that, you know. Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: And also well you can think of having uh since you have a you know something maybe if you added little bit of display, you might need the to che keep checking the battery, so you really need a some kind of indicator, so it June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: could be a blinking option of L_E_D_ Ruth Wagner: Hmm. April Harris: it could actually Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: be used to detect also. If it's in a dark room you can basically June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: detect it also. June Thomas: Hmm. Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: Hmm. April Harris: So Ruth Wagner: Mm. June Thomas: I like the idea too of being able to use the remote in the dark, so either having the buttons so you can feel the difference between them or if they April Harris: No actually June Thomas: if they light up or April Harris: i June Thomas: something. April Harris: if i it is like you know it tells you um, it can be for two purposes, June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: like if you have an L_C_D_ display and all those things June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: it's not going to be the standard remote, June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: which is having uh which need just uh six six volt uh June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: th sorry three volts um of D_C_. It may need more actually, so y you you may need to check your battery usage it and then Linda Schultz: Mm. April Harris: you need that, some functionality to indicate the battery June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: limit. Linda Schultz: It's true. April Harris: And then if the battery limit is indicated, if it could be ind indicated through a blinking something June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: and it can change the colour depending on your uh how much is the battery, well that is good enough to even locate even if you want to. Linda Schultz: Mm-hmm. April Harris: You know. Ruth Wagner: 'Kay good. April Harris: Yeah so Linda Schultz: I don't know how if if I have time to talk about the Ruth Wagner: Mm yes um April Harris: You you have Ruth Wagner: I would April Harris: time some more? Yep. Ruth Wagner: Yes yes you can you can still. We have time. April Harris: Sure you can you know. Linda Schultz: Okay. So what I'm gonna present here is very uh um yeah basic knowledge about the all the the components that are inside a a R_C_ a remote control, June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: and how is it manufactured h what is the process, just to explain you. So the method is ther there is a a set of components in a in a remote control like, and uh what cost the the components in themself do not cost a lot but the the way to assemble everything costs obviously, and I will uh show you my preferences uh uh at the end. So there are two uh different types of uh um Ruth Wagner: Nice. Linda Schultz: Two different ways April Harris: Hmm. Linda Schultz: of using the the components for making a a remote control. Uh the basic way is to use a an integrated circuit and some uh transistors with an that aims at communicating uh uh the message and to to send the message to the um to the led that will uh transmit to the receiver. And uh yeah the other components and the circuit board buttons, infrared, led, etcetera, for the components um. So you finding, just to say that the chip can detect uh when a key is pressed, and then it translate to the key, to a sequence, something like morse code, as you know, April Harris: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: uh with a different sequence for each key, and uh uh that's, with the components we will use, we will have different uh messages, different sequences, and the chips sends that signal signal to the transistor that amplify to make it stronger um. So electronic parts are assembled onto uh printed boards uh because it's easier to mass produce and assemble. And uh so I think for our design we want some b uh programmable uh you know V_ V_L_S_I_ or April Harris: Yeah Linda Schultz: F_P_G_A_ April Harris: mm mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: uh high technology, and this is important, and also we'll use uh yeah like in any uh high-tech uh devices a chip of fi April Harris: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: fibreglass to them and connect them. So my personal design we need to find a solution what um what is the material of the cover we want to use. If it's plastic or June Thomas: Mm. Linda Schultz: you said that yeah you had some ideas uh like fruit, veg or I Ruth Wagner: Well Linda Schultz: dunno. Ruth Wagner: well m m maybe Linda Schultz: Yes. Ruth Wagner: m maybe we can give the uh the uh the case a very uh uh normal a v very normal case but, Linda Schultz: Yes. Ruth Wagner: with the changeable covers to fancy it up. June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Ruth Wagner: So like a normal cheap plastic case June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: which can Linda Schultz: Yes. Ruth Wagner: be covered up in, for instance, a wooden case. I June Thomas: Mm Ruth Wagner: mean just Linda Schultz: Yeah like Ruth Wagner: what June Thomas: just Linda Schultz: they June Thomas: have Linda Schultz: do June Thomas: a Linda Schultz: in June Thomas: yeah Linda Schultz: with cars I think. Yeah June Thomas: Just Linda Schultz: inside June Thomas: the veneer Linda Schultz: the car June Thomas: on it, Linda Schultz: yeah. June Thomas: yeah. Linda Schultz: So they also emailed June Thomas that uh they have available a bunch of different buttons, a scroll wheels, integrated push buttons s such as a computer mouse. April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: And uh very cheap L_C_D_s, so liquid crystal displays, so I'm wondering, I think we might be able to integrate L_C_D_ into our R_C_. And the final point okay is um we have yeah there are some uh compromise to to do. June Thomas: Hmm. Linda Schultz: So we have to know that the push button requires a simple chip, but the scroll wheel uh and that kind of higher high-tech stuff needs more money um which is a higher price range alright. And the display requires an advanced chip, which in turns is more expensive than the regular chip, Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: w we could be able to handle that. So to to sum up um we need yeah so I I just said that the components uh the list of components uh has to be uh yeah listed and um and um assembly is a an important process that has to be taken into account. And uh for the designing of the cove uh uh cover layout April Harris: Sorry. June Thomas: Mm. Linda Schultz: then it's better to to to maybe see that with uh the the U_R_ exp U_R_I_ Expert so that we can it's really a team-working uh. Ruth Wagner: Mm. Linda Schultz: So I I cannot design something without your agreement, April Harris: Yeah Linda Schultz: right? Ruth Wagner: No April Harris: so of course Ruth Wagner: of April Harris: for Ruth Wagner: course. April Harris: example uh I wanted to know like if you want to have a a fo if you want to have the L_C_D_ display Linda Schultz: Yes. April Harris: over there, or if you want to store a programmes with a keys What kind of things you'll need inside your thin inside W wh what Linda Schultz: Yeah it's kind of um April Harris: W what Linda Schultz: simple pro progra programmable device, April Harris: Okay. Linda Schultz: and we have to insert. I April Harris: Okay. Linda Schultz: think we could insert one that could underlie several functions of April Harris: Okay so in that case you can even look at the technology what the mobile phone is trying to use with the card. Linda Schultz: Exactly yeah, April Harris: Yeah where Linda Schultz: for April Harris: they do Linda Schultz: customizing April Harris: all the wi Linda Schultz: and April Harris: with Linda Schultz: yeah. April Harris: with them actually. Linda Schultz: Okay. April Harris: How f cost effective it would be to put that car chip into it and do the Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: programmable Ruth Wagner: So April Harris: things. Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: So Linda Schultz: good Ruth Wagner: I Linda Schultz: idea. Ruth Wagner: f I think we we should come to some decisions now Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: uh a about this. Um so I understand uh when we want a display we need a expensive chip, but when we want a scrolling wheel w we also need the expensive chip, so can we use same chip, so with one expensive chip we can uh implement several complicated uh or advanced features. Linda Schultz: Exactly yeah that's Ruth Wagner: Yes. Linda Schultz: a very good idea, we could have uh one main chip uh that Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: could handle, uh it's called F_P_G_A_ chip, Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: that could handle both uh like scrolling wheels as well as uh L_C_D_ and yeah. Ruth Wagner: So when the more expensive chip you mentioned there is is possible in the in the given budget, uh maybe we should go for for the more expensive chip, so all features uh which you mentioned can be implemented based on the same chip. Linda Schultz: Yes. April Harris: D well Ruth Wagner: Do you think that's feasible? April Harris: Well I don't know if it'll fit into our cost of twelve point five Euro Ruth Wagner: Uh April Harris: you know. Ruth Wagner: You th you think it's possible. April Harris: Is it possible to fit in Linda Schultz: Yeah April Harris: to Linda Schultz: also April Harris: that? Linda Schultz: thinking, I think both uh if we had a budget of twenty twenty April Harris: Sorry. Linda Schultz: uh Euros, it will be okay, Ruth Wagner: Hmm. Linda Schultz: but uh. June Thomas: Well maybe we need specific costings then. Actually do maybe two designs and then cost them out and see which one is gonna fit in our budget better. Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: Mm Linda Schultz: that's an excellent idea. Ruth Wagner: yes wh when you make a a design ca you can next meeting you can give an quite Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: an exact cost price. Linda Schultz: yeah. Ruth Wagner: That w that June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: would be Linda Schultz: Yeah Ruth Wagner: a very Linda Schultz: because right Ruth Wagner: good idea. Linda Schultz: now I don't have price in in head but Ruth Wagner: Mm. Linda Schultz: for next meeting I'm sure yeah be able Ruth Wagner: Good Linda Schultz: to Ruth Wagner: good. April Harris: Yeah that's uh Linda Schultz: do that. April Harris: that's something which I wanted to ask you also, like what will be the each individually the cost of it. Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: For example if f if you want to put wood I wouldn't suggest for wood Linda Schultz: Okay. April Harris: uh 'cause it's I think it's m much easier to use a plastic or Linda Schultz: I April Harris: a Linda Schultz: agree April Harris: rubber Linda Schultz: on that. June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: rather Linda Schultz: Yeah. April Harris: than wood. It will be much ch much expensive th though it's the most natural thing, but Ruth Wagner: Yes but I can I think uh I think we can just use more cheap plastic for a kind of basic edition, and April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: then June Thomas: Hmm. Ruth Wagner: people can fancy it up with with more expensive materials April Harris: Yeah it's Ruth Wagner: which April Harris: uh Ruth Wagner: which come with a with April Harris: Yeah Ruth Wagner: another price. April Harris: we we can give a preference to them, but it is but with plastic or the rubber or whatever it is it's much better with that rather than going for Ruth Wagner: Do do you agree? Linda Schultz: Yeah but i June Thomas: Mm Linda Schultz: it's June Thomas: yeah Linda Schultz: a detailed June Thomas: sure. Linda Schultz: uh yeah yeah uh plastic versus uh April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: wood, and we need maybe to centre our description on uh the the really the what buttons what uh functionality we want to offer to the user, April Harris: Yeah. Linda Schultz: and maybe with uh graphs or I don't know uh User Interface Designer you could maybe uh help us on that. Ruth Wagner: Ma I I think uh for next meeting we c you Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: two can present a real April Harris: Yea Ruth Wagner: design. June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: Okay. Ruth Wagner: Uh so drawing it on the board. Linda Schultz: Perfect yeah. Ruth Wagner: And then we now sh only have to t to decide the general function uh. So um Let let's say next meeting w you produce two designs, April Harris: Yeah sure. Ruth Wagner: one one April Harris: Yeah we will Ruth Wagner: one April Harris: uh Ruth Wagner: less advanced and one more advanced and Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: with the April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: cost price. June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: Uh April Harris: Uh. Ruth Wagner: furthermore we go for the for the uh basic plastic case June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: But that that that that can be done later. Linda Schultz: Yeah customized. Ruth Wagner: We now can concentrate on the on the basic June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: remote control. Um. April Harris: Okay. We can give them smooth keys, you know. Smooth keys with bigger s uh So that you know The the problem most of the time we've seen, the keys is that it's small, Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: Mm. April Harris: and every time we have to be very but if i the if we if we go to a different ways of designing those keys, then you can merge them together June Thomas: So is there any April Harris: to June Thomas: of these that you're looking at particularly or is this April Harris: Oh June Thomas: just April Harris: you June Thomas: ideas? April Harris: can actually, for example, if you see, they are they are they are quite small over here, June Thomas: Mm-hmm. April Harris: and uh now you can, for example, as I was if June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: you make them big, it may change the look of the thing June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: also to the people. At the June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: same Ruth Wagner: Mm-hmm. April Harris: time, it is m more uh like it would be more interesting for people who are having this R_S_I_ and all June Thomas: Mm April Harris: problem. Ruth Wagner: Yes yes yes bi June Thomas: yeah. Ruth Wagner: big keys is April Harris: Uh big keys Ruth Wagner: is April Harris: may Ruth Wagner: good April Harris: better Ruth Wagner: thing June Thomas: You see? Ruth Wagner: I think. April Harris: for them actually and uh Linda Schultz: I agree yeah, and June Thomas: Yeah. Linda Schultz: not too m too many keys of course yeah. Ruth Wagner: No June Thomas: Mm Ruth Wagner: no. April Harris: Yeah. June Thomas: well one I've had before, a r r remote control we have at home is one that's actually got a cover on the bottom so the bottom bit is just, covers half the keys most of the time, Ruth Wagner: Mm June Thomas: and Ruth Wagner: mm mm. June Thomas: then you can slide the cover back to get to the the more advanced keys. Ruth Wagner: Mm April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: w but then you have still have uh when you don't use it you have such a a an extent of your remote control which you June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: don't use. So maybe it's possible uh, I don't know whether you can can indicate this, that you can Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: elsewhere open your remote June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: control and on the inside June Thomas: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: are uh buttons you June Thomas: Um Ruth Wagner: don't June Thomas: yeah Ruth Wagner: use that much. June Thomas: I've seen that before April Harris: Yeah. June Thomas: too. Anoth another like b it flips up and then you've got Ruth Wagner: Yes. June Thomas: another April Harris: Yes. June Thomas: layer of buttons underneath. April Harris: Yeah so it's something like this, the model here s June Thomas: Mm. Linda Schultz: Mm. April Harris: you can put the June Thomas: But April Harris: keys Linda Schultz: That's what you June Thomas: I've Linda Schultz: mean? June Thomas: seen also with keys and buttons on the top Ruth Wagner: Yes June Thomas: of here as well. April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: I I April Harris: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: th that's what I mean so I mean something like like June Thomas: I Ruth Wagner: a June Thomas: like Ruth Wagner: book. June Thomas: this one. I like the shape of this one. April Harris: Yeah. June Thomas: Can we have can we think Linda Schultz: Yeah June Thomas: about maybe Linda Schultz: I like June Thomas: having Linda Schultz: also June Thomas: a Linda Schultz: this June Thomas: a Linda Schultz: one. June Thomas: non-recta non non-rectangular one, so with not just the straight little box that's a Linda Schultz: Yeah, June Thomas: maybe curved April Harris: Yeah, Linda Schultz: the point June Thomas: or April Harris: mm. Linda Schultz: is June Thomas: something. Linda Schultz: w maybe we need to also to make a decision on how how how big we want to be and how many buttons June Thomas: Mm Linda Schultz: like June Thomas: mm Linda Schultz: n we June Thomas: 'kay. Linda Schultz: should dec April Harris: We June Thomas: Is this April Harris: should June Thomas: for the April Harris: make June Thomas: next Linda Schultz: decide April Harris: a June Thomas: meeting though? I think we might be out of time Linda Schultz: numbers Ruth Wagner: Mm. Linda Schultz: or June Thomas: out of time for this meeting. April Harris: Yeah that yeah next meeting we should be Linda Schultz: Okay. Ruth Wagner: Ju just make two designs, April Harris: Yeah that Linda Schultz: Yeah April Harris: would Linda Schultz: yeah April Harris: depend Linda Schultz: yeah. April Harris: upon us actually. Ruth Wagner: and the we we can decide decide between th those designs. June Thomas: Yep. April Harris: Yeah Ruth Wagner: I April Harris: okay. Ruth Wagner: think that would be Linda Schultz: Perfect. Ruth Wagner: a good idea. So anyone uh any questions April Harris: No Ruth Wagner: for now? April Harris: no. June Thomas: No. April Harris: I don't have. June Thomas: So is this is there anything else I need to do from a marketing point of view for the next meeting? Ruth Wagner: Um yes I come to that uh uh April Harris: Maybe it would be interesting if you could look um for the cost inventories of other devices, if you're using speech recognition or something like that. Ruth Wagner: Yes well m maybe uh, I don't know whether that's possible, maybe you June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: can start evaluating uh their work somehow. June Thomas: Okay well is this June Thomas designing a way to evaluate it so Thinking about how to set up test groups and things? Ruth Wagner: I don't know whether that's possible uh June Thomas: Mm. Ruth Wagner: in the given time but a as far as possible. June Thomas: Okay. Ruth Wagner: So June Thomas: Yep. Ruth Wagner: uh you two will be together Linda Schultz: Exactly. Ruth Wagner: w working on April Harris: Mm. Ruth Wagner: a o on two prototypes Linda Schultz: Yeah. Ruth Wagner: and further instructions will be uh will be sent to you by uh by Linda Schultz: Two Ruth Wagner: email. Linda Schultz: or three April Harris: Two. Linda Schultz: prototypes? Ruth Wagner: Two. Linda Schultz: Two? April Harris: One for like cost Ruth Wagner: I April Harris: and the one with like higher-end Linda Schultz: Okay. Ruth Wagner: Mm June Thomas: Mm. April Harris: so that Ruth Wagner: and then April Harris: then we can be easily comparing them Linda Schultz: Yeah April Harris: or Ruth Wagner: Hmm. Linda Schultz: and find April Harris: you Linda Schultz: maybe April Harris: know Linda Schultz: a compromise. April Harris: find a compromise June Thomas: Hmm. April Harris: between both of them, Ruth Wagner: Yes April Harris: yeah Ruth Wagner: okay. April Harris: that's how it is. Linda Schultz: Perfect June Thomas: Mm-hmm. Linda Schultz: yeah. April Harris: Yep. Ruth Wagner: Okay let's call this to an end. June Thomas: Mm April Harris: Okay. June Thomas: 'kay. Thanks guys. Linda Schultz: Thanks. April Harris: So we are done for now.	Then Ruth Wagner opens the meeting announcing that they will address conceptual design and then giving the agenda. Matthew arrives late and June Thomas begins her presentation about trends. She emphasizes that the remote needs to be exciting, contain a cool feature, and be somewhat intuitive. She reports that currently fruits and vegetables are fashionable- thus bright eye-catching colors, bold designs, and a spongy feel is appropriate. She lists ideas such as changable covers, a locator, speech recognition, and LCD screens. The industrial specialist presents, talking about how a remote typically has different keys, structures and forms. He likes the idea of implenting speech recognition into a universal remote. They discuss without certainity about the cost of such functions. Linda Schultz presents about remote control components and the manufacturing process, listing options such as various buttons, scroll wheels, integrated push buttons like those in a computer mouse, and LCDs. They discuss the project budget and the possibility of using an expensive chip. They decide to make two designs, one more advanced than the other. Ruth Wagner closes the meeting by telling each group member what his/her tasks will be until the next meeting.	4	amisum	train
Shelby Ferdig: Did you get my email with the slides? Shelby Ferdig: Ah. Tricky. Sylvia Jessee: I guess I have to change the pen otherwise Will. be completely Shelby Ferdig: Dunno. Sylvia Jessee: different. Shelby Ferdig: Maybe they're supposed the pen's supposed to go over the seats. Might be seat floor rather than person. Yeah, put it back. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. And do you think it's. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Yeah. Jo's making faces at Shelby Ferdig. Arlene Kennedy: Okay. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: So. Matthew is uh late again. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: Probably an important man. Um. So well it is important for him to be here uh. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. So what can Arlene Kennedy: He Sylvia Jessee: you? Arlene Kennedy: he he You Sylvia Jessee: Yeah we Arlene Kennedy: did Sylvia Jessee: will Arlene Kennedy: work together didn't Sylvia Jessee: yeah, Arlene Kennedy: you? Sylvia Jessee: so I will be able to to summarize uh our meeting, but Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: still I think uh it would be in very important if the uh as um main designer. I think we can put on the here. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Yes. Sylvia Jessee: Uh basically w yeah we we designed the two uh items. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Um Sylvia Jessee: Um, Arlene Kennedy: yes but w we Sylvia Jessee: have a phone, can someone Arlene Kennedy: Yes, maybe we should phone him. Sylvia Jessee: it's really Arlene Kennedy: Um Sylvia Jessee: w well Arlene Kennedy: well Sylvia Jessee: designed. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: Um, Shelby Ferdig: Mm, Arlene Kennedy: when he is not here Shelby Ferdig: object Arlene Kennedy: we will Shelby Ferdig: tracking. Arlene Kennedy: just we just have to continue. Um so Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: just for record I I will take uh notes again. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: And um well first thing uh I was uh uh I got an email from uh from my superior again that we really should stay within the budget of the Sylvia Jessee: 'Kay. Arlene Kennedy: uh twelve Euro and fifty cents. It's uh well he said to Shelby Ferdig well uh when you stay in it's good, when you don't stay in you have to redesign. There is no uh no negotiation uh possible in this matter. So we have to consider that. Sylvia Jessee: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Good. Um so maybe Anna, you can have your Shelby Ferdig: Well Arlene Kennedy: presentation. Shelby Ferdig: we can't no we can't do evaluation 'til we have a design. Arlene Kennedy: Okay Matthew. Nice uh you are here. Sylvia Jessee: Great. Arlene Kennedy: Great. Great. Oh ma maybe then you can start now with mm presenting your uh your designs. Sylvia Jessee: Yep. So I will start by the the basic one that uh fits into uh eight Euros actually, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: right, seven eight Euros, and uh well first for both they have um a special shape, maybe the designer can uh explain better than Shelby Ferdig, but uh it's like a surf board. And Shelby Ferdig: Mm 'kay. Sylvia Jessee: you you are supposed to surf to browse to surf T_V_, maybe the web, and uh it's kind of interesting shape because um unconsciously people want to s to surf when Carol Vicars: Or Sylvia Jessee: they see Carol Vicars: browse. Sylvia Jessee: this stuff. And also it's not too far from um a mobile. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: So Carol Vicars: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: people are used to that kind of shape, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: right. Don't take care too much about the colour because w yeah Carol Vicars: Now we are Sylvia Jessee: we don't Carol Vicars: to give Sylvia Jessee: take Carol Vicars: some oper Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Carol Vicars: offers right now. Sylvia Jessee: So here would be basically the the the infrared uh Arlene Kennedy: Eye. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: uh Carol Vicars: I yeah. Sylvia Jessee: led yeah L_A_ L_A_ L_E_D_, Carol Vicars: L_E_D_. Sylvia Jessee: the on-off button, in Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: red. Here would be the volume. Shelby Ferdig: Oh yeah. Sylvia Jessee: On the on the Arlene Kennedy: Uh-huh. Sylvia Jessee: left, Carol Vicars: Mm-hmm, Sylvia Jessee: okay, Carol Vicars: hmm. Sylvia Jessee: so easy Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: to turn on t and off. And um so this is a very cheap version so there are maybe you can carry on uh Matthew. Carol Vicars: Also so you have uh uh browsing the channels, actually so you Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: can go up and down Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Carol Vicars: the channels, uh, if you have a video or something you can forward, Sylvia Jessee: How can Carol Vicars: back. Sylvia Jessee: you change from V_C_R_ to uh T_V_, by the way? Carol Vicars: Oh no no no, this is a single this this is a model with just the T_V_ one. Sylvia Jessee: Okay yeah. Carol Vicars: No Sylvia Jessee: Yeah Carol Vicars: no Arlene Kennedy: Ah, Carol Vicars: just sorry, Arlene Kennedy: okay. Carol Vicars: this Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Carol Vicars: is a standard T_V_ one we, are not talking about that. So and then we have usually there twelve keys but we know that we rel that we have only ten digits. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: The extra two are for uh having or giving an option for uh having more than one channel. And the other one is for the teletext or something you want to Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: browse through from that. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: Okay Carol Vicars: Actually. Shelby Ferdig: so it's it's t a very basic remote then, it's Carol Vicars: It's Shelby Ferdig: only Carol Vicars: a very basic minimal Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: thing which you Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: can Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: which Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: is which is also available in the market, actually that's what it that it i and would cost us Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: to build it Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Seven, Carol Vicars: about eight Sylvia Jessee: eight, ei Carol Vicars: Euros. Sylvia Jessee: eight Euros. Arlene Kennedy: Exce except for the for the special shape, the surfing board, it has a quite Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: a a conventional layout of buttons Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: uh. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: So this one model and uh Shelby Ferdig: Can I see? Carol Vicars: yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Thanks. Carol Vicars: Sure. Shelby Ferdig: Okay I like the volume control, that's good. Carol Vicars: Th this is a magic one but I know we don't want to talk about that, you know like uh i i i it is a very futuristic, it's like uh it's like a brain machine interface and all this Shelby Ferdig: Uh-huh. Carol Vicars: stuff we are Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: thinking about in the future, it can come. Shelby Ferdig: So it doesn't actually have buttons. Carol Vicars: So that uh then what we look Shelby Ferdig: Did you wanna see? Carol Vicars: t yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Yeah no you Carol Vicars: This Arlene Kennedy: can Carol Vicars: is a Arlene Kennedy: carry Carol Vicars: model, Arlene Kennedy: on, Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: I just look how it feels all. Yes it really feels like like like a mobile phone. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Just I'm Sylvia Jessee: Yeah actually, yeah. Arlene Kennedy: I really want to talk to it. But. Shelby Ferdig: It won't talk back. Arlene Kennedy: So but but continue with your Carol Vicars: Uh so Arlene Kennedy: uh mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: well then the this is the a more a little uh smooth and it gives a lot of functionality, uh in this way, so all we have uh th you see there are only six keys, but don't worry they are ma they are doing the job of twelve keys actually Shelby Ferdig: Right. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: here. And so they have more space actually Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: and uh it's easy to uh use this and uh you have um so this is a standard uh uh infrared eye, and then you have a power button, which l volume, what you have, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: and then other than that you have uh channel up and down and uh f slow pause or s slow Sylvia Jessee: Play, Carol Vicars: lo Sylvia Jessee: pause. Carol Vicars: yeah s pause or stop, and uh then uh you can uh you have a L_C_D_ display, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: here and uh y this is a functional thing which can change like it's a toggle switch which could change the function say, y you Arlene Kennedy: From Carol Vicars: press Arlene Kennedy: D_V_D_ Carol Vicars: it Arlene Kennedy: player to television Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: or Sylvia Jessee: Exactly Arlene Kennedy: something. Carol Vicars: I Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Carol Vicars: really can change Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: To Carol Vicars: it, Sylvia Jessee: audio Carol Vicars: so Sylvia Jessee: and to Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: Instead Sylvia Jessee: video Carol Vicars: of having Sylvia Jessee: on Carol Vicars: many Sylvia Jessee: demand. Carol Vicars: switches, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: Yes Carol Vicars: y Arlene Kennedy: and and and then you get feedback via the L_C_D_ yeah. Carol Vicars: The L_C_D_ can display Sylvia Jessee: Yes. Carol Vicars: what is Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: that on that, and uh well you can have a integrated microphone over here, Sylvia Jessee: This is the orange Carol Vicars: or Sylvia Jessee: button, the Carol Vicars: in the button Sylvia Jessee: microphone. Carol Vicars: th here, so Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: which can uh basically you want to do a speech recognition and uh that channel a lot of information can be di displayed here directly on the um on Sylvia Jessee: An Carol Vicars: your on Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Carol Vicars: your display. And here is a small L_E_D_ which is like blinking one, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: which tells you like uh are you running out of the battery, and which is can be useful for the locating as I was talking earlier Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: okay. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: And uh well then we have a cover basically, basically you don't need much of the time this, Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: when you need you can use it, and this gives additional functionality that tomorrow you want you can add a tactile thing to Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: this cover Sylvia Jessee: Crazy Carol Vicars: you know. Sylvia Jessee: dis designer, okay. Carol Vicars: Design enter. Arlene Kennedy: Yeah but but but but uh i in there uh when this is closed, Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: will it also uh cover up the L_C_D_ Sylvia Jessee: Yeah Arlene Kennedy: screen? Sylvia Jessee: yeah yeah yeah. Carol Vicars: Yeah. It's basically to Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: do Arlene Kennedy: But Carol Vicars: that. Arlene Kennedy: but the L_C_D_ screen I mean is a very uh well an eye-attracting feature which shouldn't Carol Vicars: Actually Arlene Kennedy: be shouldn't Carol Vicars: when you Arlene Kennedy: be Carol Vicars: are watching the T_V_, Sylvia Jessee: Oh actually well. Carol Vicars: when you are watching anything or listening to them, you hardly care about what is getting displayed here, you know, uh Arlene Kennedy: That th Carol Vicars: you Arlene Kennedy: that's Carol Vicars: want Arlene Kennedy: true. Carol Vicars: to uh and this gives a protection to the L_C_D_ actually, giving a cover to that actually. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: Gives a protection because when it falls down or something it it is Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: it Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: is Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Carol Vicars: is is it Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Carol Vicars: gives Arlene Kennedy: more Carol Vicars: a Arlene Kennedy: robust. Carol Vicars: protec it's more robust that way. Arlene Kennedy: Yes okay. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Uh yeah. And you have very good chances Sylvia Jessee: It's low weight. You have to Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: see yeah yeah the the components we put inside is very low weight. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: So the the cost is actually a bit more, it's uh Carol Vicars: It Sylvia Jessee: it's it's sixteen Francs. Carol Vicars: Sixteen Euros. Sylvia Jessee: Sixteen Euros sorry. Arlene Kennedy: Okay. Shelby Ferdig: So it's well outside the budget then. Sylvia Jessee: Then it's out of budget. But Arlene Kennedy: But Sylvia Jessee: the Arlene Kennedy: w Sylvia Jessee: the main point we we talk about that with our uh manufacturer. And Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: they say basically that the S_R_ system would be uh something like three Francs per item Carol Vicars: Three Euros. Sylvia Jessee: so three Euros sorry. And um Shelby Ferdig: That's on top of the sixteen, or is it part of that? Sylvia Jessee: No no no, part of that, yeah. Carol Vicars: Part of that. Shelby Ferdig: So that takes it down to thirteen Euros without the Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Shelby Ferdig: speech recognition. Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm 'kay. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Hmm. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Well uh if you we can have if you have new more ideas we can add new more uh some more keys if you want to you know Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: Well I think th th yeah we should stick with uh a number of Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: keys because if we add too much then Carol Vicars: Yeah it it should Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: it's Carol Vicars: not Sylvia Jessee: too Carol Vicars: be cluttering up everything. Shelby Ferdig: What's this one on the side? Carol Vicars: Ah that's for the it's kind of a L_E_D_ Sylvia Jessee: Locati. Carol Vicars: for Sylvia Jessee: Location. Carol Vicars: indicating your battery Shelby Ferdig: Ah okay. Carol Vicars: and as well as it's like a blinking one you Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: know you can Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: keep it aside. Shelby Ferdig: Mm 'kay. I like the shape of them, I do like the Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: the size Arlene Kennedy: Well well Shelby Ferdig: and the the shape. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Be before ta talking about the money and what's possible Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: and what is not possible, maybe Anna you can uh give our uh give us your Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: um Shelby Ferdig: And maybe we run the evaluation on both of the products, both of these two. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Evalua evaluation and also the evaluation criteria, so what Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: what is important to look at. Shelby Ferdig: Basically this is what we've talked about already, um, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: from the marketing point of view. We just wanna make sure that we've taken into account Arlene Kennedy: Well just Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: do it quickly if if we al already. Shelby Ferdig: So it's just a shortlist of criteria on Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: um the things that we've identified as being important to selling the product. Um we just go through these and rate them as a group and then at the end we'll make an evaluation based on that, so just average the score of those items, so These are the things we identified as being important. Um the three things were look and feel, innovation and ease of use, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: were the three important components um appealing to the correct demographic so using those things in the right way to appeal to our demographic. And then goin following the company motto, following the fashion trends and putting that into the product as well. So well do you wanna go through and put through those on the the two products now or do we wanna discuss them further and then evaluate them? Arlene Kennedy: Um, n no why not why not discuss uh discuss it now, Shelby Ferdig: Okay. So f just go through onto the whiteboard I guess. Not sure how this is gonna come out. Shelby Ferdig: So the first one was really very far below budget, would you want to take the price down of the end product according to that or just have the high profit on it? 'Cause if we're only going to make it for eight Euros then we have a Arlene Kennedy: Mm, well my my personal view is uh w when when this one is eight Euros we must think how can we improve it. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: And then I mean w w w you must just see it we can still spend this four Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: and a half Euro and Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: to r because th th th the the selling price is already prite fik uh uh quite fixed on twenty five Euros Sylvia Jessee: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: so we just have to offer as much as as Sylvia Jessee: Functionality. Arlene Kennedy: well value for the for the customer uh he can have for twenty five Euro. Shelby Ferdig: Okay so look and feel, innovation Carol Vicars: And now it easy to use. Sylvia Jessee: Easy to use. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: target. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: And trends. Oh, you following the idea of using the um removable covers on these? Is that Arlene Kennedy: Um Shelby Ferdig: part of both of them Arlene Kennedy: well Shelby Ferdig: or? Arlene Kennedy: w w we can still discuss that. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: So um, and together with evaluating this uh we we might come with new ideas I mean Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: adding things or uh removing uh of options because they are too expensive, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: but um I've received uh a framework which we can do this. I mean did Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: you have this this Excel sheet? Sylvia Jessee: No. Carol Vicars: No. Arlene Kennedy: No okay, Shelby Ferdig: No. Arlene Kennedy: this is these are the the the latest prices of our production uh uh production unit for several components, so we can uh see whether the the price is is within the twelve Euro Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: uh fifty cents Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: uh. So maybe we can start with this, uh, calling this one. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Yep. So it's the pink. Arlene Kennedy: Th th this is the first design. Shelby Ferdig: And the other one's green. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Shelby Ferdig: Okay, so look and feel? Where um one is I've broken the pen again. Arlene Kennedy: Uh there is another Shelby Ferdig: S Arlene Kennedy: pen. Shelby Ferdig: yeah. Get that one. Um w one's bad and seven's the best. Sorry, one's true and seven's false. One's the best. Arlene Kennedy: Okay. Shelby Ferdig: So on a scale of Arlene Kennedy: 'Kay. Shelby Ferdig: one to seven? Arlene Kennedy: Okay. So. Look and feel. Well you already feel that uh pretty much I think. Arlene Kennedy: In i in my opinion Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: purely feel is Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm, Arlene Kennedy: is is very good, Shelby Ferdig: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: is very good in your hand, so Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: I I I would consider two or or may maybe even one Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: for feel. But that's just half, we should also consider look, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: and then i it looks quite conventional. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: Don't you agree? Carol Vicars: Mm yeah. Shelby Ferdig: On the scale u it's between Arlene Kennedy: So maybe Shelby Ferdig: functional Arlene Kennedy: two. Shelby Ferdig: and Arlene Kennedy: Hmm. Shelby Ferdig: fancy Arlene Kennedy: Hmm. Shelby Ferdig: basically Arlene Kennedy: Ma ma ma Shelby Ferdig: we're looking Arlene Kennedy: ma Shelby Ferdig: at, Arlene Kennedy: maybe Shelby Ferdig: so Arlene Kennedy: say say five I It's my opinion, but I don't know what Carol Vicars: Well Arlene Kennedy: what Carol Vicars: I will give it maybe we have anyways the way we have designed it's like the surf Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: as you say Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: you know. It though the look is fine but uh still I will give four in that case Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: you know. Sylvia Jessee: Four maybe. Shelby Ferdig: Four? Carol Vicars: Four Arlene Kennedy: Four, Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: yeah Arlene Kennedy: four. Now Carol Vicars: that Arlene Kennedy: we th th then we settle Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: on four. Carol Vicars: Yeah. I will gi yeah. Sylvia Jessee: Uh. Arlene Kennedy: 'Kay. Can you maybe fix the other Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: If you press like this not like this then you Shelby Ferdig: No that's the Carol Vicars: No. C Shelby Ferdig: ink's Carol Vicars: can you Shelby Ferdig: dried. Carol Vicars: get the batteries? No no the battery has fallen down, Shelby Ferdig: Battery's Carol Vicars: that's i Shelby Ferdig: low, isn't it the ink? The b that's the that that one? Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: battery there. Sylvia Jessee: But Carol Vicars: No no it's not that, it's how to close a battery. Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Carol Vicars: Okay? Now it should be. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. No I think it's lost a battery. Arlene Kennedy: Mm, try it, just try it. Shelby Ferdig: No it's Arlene Kennedy: Oh it will Shelby Ferdig: It Arlene Kennedy: not Shelby Ferdig: would Arlene Kennedy: ri Shelby Ferdig: still write but it wouldn't Arlene Kennedy: mm, Shelby Ferdig: pick it up with the sensors. Arlene Kennedy: mm. Carol Vicars: Is there another battery there? Oh yeah. Shelby Ferdig: You got a second? Sylvia Jessee: Try a Shelby Ferdig: Well we won't be able to tell. Arlene Kennedy: Yes, it it has a mm. Sylvia Jessee: Perfect. Shelby Ferdig: Is that working? Did it come out? Good. Okay. Arlene Kennedy: Good. Good. Shelby Ferdig: Because we'll be able to see it still even if it wasn't working, it's just a normal whiteboard Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Shelby Ferdig: marker Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Shelby Ferdig: but it wouldn't be picked up on the the actual whiteboard. Sylvia Jessee: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Okay. So then then Shelby Ferdig: And the other one? Sylvia Jessee: Wow. Arlene Kennedy: Ah. Shelby Ferdig: I think it's slightly better, Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: um, it's hard to tell from just Arlene Kennedy: I Shelby Ferdig: the Arlene Kennedy: I Shelby Ferdig: plasticine, but Arlene Kennedy: I When we want to include I I I'm doubting about this this component. It Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: it it it breaks in your Sylvia Jessee: 'Kay maybe Carol Vicars: No Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: actually this is this is not going to protrude actually, Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: it Sylvia Jessee: It's Carol Vicars: is Sylvia Jessee: not Carol Vicars: jus Sylvia Jessee: a button it's a led, it's Carol Vicars: It's a led Sylvia Jessee: a Carol Vicars: actually which which 'll be covering in a curve Sylvia Jessee: Ac actually yeah Arlene Kennedy: Mm, Sylvia Jessee: it should be embedded. Carol Vicars: It's will Arlene Kennedy: yes Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: be embedded Arlene Kennedy: I see, Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: there Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Carol Vicars: so Arlene Kennedy: mm Carol Vicars: it Arlene Kennedy: okay. Carol Vicars: won't be really you know Sylvia Jessee: Oh you can Carol Vicars: protruding Sylvia Jessee: push Carol Vicars: or Sylvia Jessee: push Carol Vicars: something. Sylvia Jessee: it again, you can push it. Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. The Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: other thing is, is the left hand one protruding? 'Cause if Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: people are left handed they want to use the other hand, maybe Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: it won't work so well. Carol Vicars: No you it it not protruding actually, it will go in better Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: into that Arlene Kennedy: Well r r Shelby Ferdig: I'd say two or three for that one, personally. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: Probably more towards three than two. Arlene Kennedy: I think the look is better but the feel is is is worse. So so I would also say this is four. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: But w w do you what do you think? Carol Vicars: Uh it's fine I think. My just that um the feel is that um you right now you you don't see the feel because right uh for example if you press it quite inside now like this, now it's embedded Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: one. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Mm. Yes. Carol Vicars: This is how embedded one Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Carol Vicars: will Arlene Kennedy: it basically is the same shape. Carol Vicars: Yeah. It's a bas basically the same thing actually. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: You Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: will be Except that Sylvia Jessee: And Carol Vicars: in this Sylvia Jessee: the Carol Vicars: c Sylvia Jessee: L_C_D_ makes it better. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: And Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: you Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: might Shelby Ferdig: Mm, Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: have a slight Shelby Ferdig: okay. Carol Vicars: thing for to forward Sylvia Jessee: So I will Shelby Ferdig: Yeah Carol Vicars: and Sylvia Jessee: say Shelby Ferdig: it's d it's Sylvia Jessee: two. Shelby Ferdig: definitely more fancier than that one. Carol Vicars: Yeah, Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: okay. Sylvia Jessee: I would say two, Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Sylvia Jessee: three. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: So, consensus? Two or three? Arlene Kennedy: Two? Mm. Shelby Ferdig: Two? Sylvia Jessee: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Two's good yes. Carol Vicars: looking Shelby Ferdig: Um, Carol Vicars: like Shelby Ferdig: 'kay. Innovation. The first one, not Sylvia Jessee: Basically Shelby Ferdig: really muc Sylvia Jessee: there is no innovation in the first one Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: compared to what exists in the market, Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: right? Carol Vicars: No but Shelby Ferdig: Do we Carol Vicars: except for the design of the surf. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. The Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: surf uh design. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: What Carol Vicars: You should be Shelby Ferdig: What Carol Vicars: rea Shelby Ferdig: features are we actually including? Are we including like a location kind of thing like trying to find it? Carol Vicars: Uh no I think it's Shelby Ferdig: There's Carol Vicars: more Shelby Ferdig: nothing Carol Vicars: of the Shelby Ferdig: like Carol Vicars: feel. Shelby Ferdig: that? But th all, it's just Carol Vicars: Yeah, Shelby Ferdig: a straight-out Carol Vicars: yeah. Shelby Ferdig: remote control. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: The only innova innovation is the shape. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: Say about that. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: S so that Shelby Ferdig: So there's no this uh look and feel thing, though that's not a technological Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: innovation. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: You're right. Shelby Ferdig: So I'd be up for seven for Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: innovation. Sylvia Jessee: And the And the second one is really uh state of the art, Carol Vicars: Yep. Sylvia Jessee: uh in terms of innovation. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: And um with many more functionalities, and can open and close the Carol Vicars: Yeah, it Sylvia Jessee: the bottom Carol Vicars: gives Sylvia Jessee: part. Carol Vicars: it Arlene Kennedy: Yes. A and the L_C_D_ screen is Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: That's that's that's well it's quite Sylvia Jessee: And all Arlene Kennedy: innovative. Sylvia Jessee: the scrolling uh buttons and menu and pro programmable device behind this. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Uh could put it at one or two I would say. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: Personally. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Mm. Mm. Shelby Ferdig: So what is it, what are the innovations with this? Got the L_C_D_ Sylvia Jessee: Uh Shelby Ferdig: screen. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah automatic speech recognition. Shelby Ferdig: Is that in this one though? Is this 'cause this is the Carol Vicars: No, Shelby Ferdig: Th th there Carol Vicars: we Shelby Ferdig: were Carol Vicars: ha Shelby Ferdig: different options we discussed then, we discussed the one that was in budget and the one that was out of budget. Arlene Kennedy: We just diske discuss it as you designed it and then we Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: will will Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: try Shelby Ferdig: So Arlene Kennedy: to Shelby Ferdig: the cost Sylvia Jessee: So Shelby Ferdig: for these Arlene Kennedy: get Shelby Ferdig: were Arlene Kennedy: it in the budget. Shelby Ferdig: what was the cost for the first one? Eight Euros? Arlene Kennedy: Eight. Sylvia Jessee: Eight. Well actually we have yeah to check again yeah. Carol Vicars: Yeah, eight Euros yeah. Shelby Ferdig: And this one was Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: Sixteen. Shelby Ferdig: sixteen Carol Vicars: Sixteen Shelby Ferdig: Euros. Carol Vicars: Euros. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. So. Innovation for this one is two? One? Carol Vicars: It's a two, I would say two. Shelby Ferdig: Two? Sylvia Jessee: W Arlene Kennedy: Two. Sylvia Jessee: W un to be one what would do we nee actually, yeah, I don't see Arlene Kennedy: Why Sylvia Jessee: okay, Arlene Kennedy: it is Sylvia Jessee: one Arlene Kennedy: one. Sylvia Jessee: would would be without buttons, Arlene Kennedy: A man w w Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Well Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Shelby Ferdig: the Sylvia Jessee: Bu Shelby Ferdig: speech recognition is a very good innovation I believe Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: it, so Sylvia Jessee: So maybe we can put Arlene Kennedy: This Sylvia Jessee: one. Arlene Kennedy: this is it w with the speech recognition? Sylvia Jessee: It's using speech recognition, Carol Vicars: Okay yeah. Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Well. Gi given that Shelby Ferdig: Give Arlene Kennedy: that Shelby Ferdig: it Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Arlene Kennedy: it Shelby Ferdig: a one? Arlene Kennedy: works, Sylvia Jessee: one, yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: then it's I think one. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Ease of use? Carol Vicars: Uh Sylvia Jessee: So the first one is really standard, so Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: everybody i including Carol Vicars: He is used Sylvia Jessee: our Carol Vicars: to Sylvia Jessee: grandmothers Carol Vicars: it act Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: can use it, right? Carol Vicars: They are used to it Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Carol Vicars: actually. Shelby Ferdig: So that's maybe a a two for ease of use. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: Here there may Sylvia Jessee: Um, the other one is quite easy, tho though. Carol Vicars: Uh, though it has more functionality I think it shouldn't be for the user Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: to learn it actually. Arlene Kennedy: Hmm. Carol Vicars: It shouldn't Shelby Ferdig: So maybe Carol Vicars: be diffi Shelby Ferdig: a three or a four. Carol Vicars: Uh yeah, actually in fact I think it will be Sylvia Jessee: One Carol Vicars: Yeah Sylvia Jessee: Shelby Ferdig um we hope maybe sometimes people get uh scared with the number of buttons. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Yeah but Sylvia Jessee: And Carol Vicars: y Sylvia Jessee: there is a like I would say three. Or maybe four. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: Well Shelby Ferdig: Consensus? Carol Vicars: we have reduced the keys Shelby Ferdig: Three or Carol Vicars: actually Shelby Ferdig: four? Carol Vicars: you see. Arlene Kennedy: Three, I would. Carol Vicars: Three Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Carol Vicars: is fine Shelby Ferdig: Three? Arlene Kennedy: Three. Sylvia Jessee: yeah Carol Vicars: with Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: Shelby Ferdig. Sylvia Jessee: because it's n uh it's not like a big one with uh one hundred buttons or Carol Vicars: Yeah it's Sylvia Jessee: so, Carol Vicars: a actually Arlene Kennedy: No. Carol Vicars: the user has to put some effort to do use that actually, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: it's not so easy, Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Carol Vicars: like this one the normal. Arlene Kennedy: Yes but then when when he is used to it, i i it is quite easy. Carol Vicars: Is quite easy yeah. Arlene Kennedy: So Carol Vicars: Initially Arlene Kennedy: so I think Carol Vicars: there Arlene Kennedy: th Carol Vicars: there Arlene Kennedy: three Carol Vicars: is Arlene Kennedy: is Carol Vicars: a lot of Arlene Kennedy: good. Carol Vicars: effort, Arlene Kennedy: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Good. What's the Shelby Ferdig: So Arlene Kennedy: next? Shelby Ferdig: three's uh how well it goes to the target demographic. Carol Vicars: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: So Arlene Kennedy: So Shelby Ferdig: we're d we're still thinking twenty to forty year olds? Arlene Kennedy: Twe twenty to forty, Shelby Ferdig: That's Arlene Kennedy: yes that's Sylvia Jessee: This one would be uh for grandmothers. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Oh no, this would I I would I Sylvia Jessee: No. Carol Vicars: would give this model to the old people actually. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, grandmothers, yeah. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: So sh Carol Vicars: And Shelby Ferdig: completely changed our demographic there, it's not part of the the funky young thing. Arlene Kennedy: Well exce except Sylvia Jessee: Yeah that's Arlene Kennedy: for Sylvia Jessee: true. Arlene Kennedy: the surfing shape. I mean that's Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: that's something Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: which which has an appeal on this group I think, but Shelby Ferdig: If it was the Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: very bottom price range or it was like between this and another one we did the same thing then I can imagine it being applying to the the demographic yeah. That's Arlene Kennedy: Mm w Shelby Ferdig: it's Arlene Kennedy: w w Shelby Ferdig: still Arlene Kennedy: we after Shelby Ferdig: Ye Arlene Kennedy: this we can can consider uh for instance, making this more attractive to Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: to the demographic Shelby Ferdig: 'Cause we have got room, we've got some budget there to Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: add a few things to it, that's right. Arlene Kennedy: But as it is now, I w would say mm, six, something. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Oh yeah, Arlene Kennedy: Do you Shelby Ferdig: And Arlene Kennedy: agree? Carol Vicars: I Well I Sylvia Jessee: Yeah Carol Vicars: think Sylvia Jessee: it was written that it really so important, the um the the look and uh taking care of its it targets, the right range of people, right? Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Uh yeah but but if you sell it in the market it's going to be cheap, actually. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. But Shelby Ferdig: But it's Sylvia Jessee: w Carol Vicars: So Shelby Ferdig: going to be cheap whatever though, it was set with i we've Carol Vicars: And Shelby Ferdig: got Carol Vicars: people Shelby Ferdig: a set price. Carol Vicars: can still decide to use the cheaper one Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: instead of a Sylvia Jessee: But for us it's yeah we have a constraint that we need to sell at twenty five Arlene Kennedy: Mm, Sylvia Jessee: Euros. Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: yeah, Shelby Ferdig: There's Arlene Kennedy: indeed. Shelby Ferdig: nothing that Arlene Kennedy: Th Shelby Ferdig: would Arlene Kennedy: t Shelby Ferdig: make Shelby Ferdig Arlene Kennedy: t Shelby Ferdig: spend an extra k few Euros on that Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: one rather Arlene Kennedy: Ju Shelby Ferdig: than another Arlene Kennedy: just Shelby Ferdig: one. Arlene Kennedy: think, twenty five Euros, I mean Carol Vicars: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: it's not going to be cheaper. Carol Vicars: Okay. So Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: in that case well it's fine then. We can Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Okay. Shelby Ferdig: Um and the demokraphi demographic of the second one? Carol Vicars: And the demographics Shelby Ferdig: It's got Carol Vicars: of Shelby Ferdig: the got the the toys in it, it's got the L_C_D_ Arlene Kennedy: Yeah tha tha Shelby Ferdig: screen Arlene Kennedy: tha tha tha Shelby Ferdig: and Arlene Kennedy: that's I think it's better, because of Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: the L_C_D_ screen which is really an appeal on the on the on the Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: on the and on the Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. And if you want to target yeah if we we wish to to sell four millions of this, I think for this audience we need absolutely the L_C_D_ screen. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. So, the L_C_D_ screen uh attracts, Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: yes. Because Shelby Ferdig: I think especially Arlene Kennedy: it Shelby Ferdig: if we're gonna n have an L_C_D_ screen on a low range product then that's good. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Mm, ma maybe that's something Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: to consider, yes, Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: so. Wh what what Shelby Ferdig: I'd probably go with three again for that one. Carol Vicars: Yeah I think it's uh Sylvia Jessee: Or Carol Vicars: it Sylvia Jessee: even Carol Vicars: has more market actually. Sylvia Jessee: Even one and two. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Y yeah, Arlene Kennedy: No s Carol Vicars: you know Sylvia Jessee: Or two. Arlene Kennedy: say Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: t Carol Vicars: two. Arlene Kennedy: two. Shelby Ferdig: So, two, Arlene Kennedy: Two? Shelby Ferdig: yeah? Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Two yeah. Carol Vicars: Yeah two yeah. Because tomorrow this will be more appealing because you can add lot of sophistication on that. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Because then you you have it uh d you Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Carol Vicars: have lot of things which you can include Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Carol Vicars: for the people to Shelby Ferdig: And especially I guess 'cause this has the speech recognition as well, and that makes it more appealing, it's more of a a new fun toy. Carol Vicars: We have to practically test it. The field Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: test will tell you Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Carol Vicars: how Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Carol Vicars: good. Arlene Kennedy: Okay, the final point, Shelby Ferdig: And Carol Vicars: The trends. Arlene Kennedy: trends. Shelby Ferdig: following the trends. So the trends were the fruit and vegetables and the spongy feel. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Mm. Shelby Ferdig: So as it is, not really doing either of them. Arlene Kennedy: I think Sylvia Jessee: Spongy, uh, that means that it goes in in the water. Carol Vicars: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: Well, the spongy could be part of the the feel of the buttons as well, I know some have you tried the mobile phones that have got the kinda spongy buttons and not not exactly spongy but Sylvia Jessee: Uh Shelby Ferdig: I'm thinking Sylvia Jessee: okay. Shelby Ferdig: one of the Nokias that's got like you ca it hasn't got individual buttons it's got Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: just a Carol Vicars: Yeah Shelby Ferdig: one Carol Vicars: I Shelby Ferdig: bit Carol Vicars: know. Shelby Ferdig: on it and so you can that feels kinda spongy. Sylvia Jessee: But this one includes this feature, right? Spongy buttons. Carol Vicars: Yeah. We Shelby Ferdig: So Carol Vicars: we Shelby Ferdig: it's sort Carol Vicars: we Shelby Ferdig: of, Carol Vicars: we Shelby Ferdig: yeah. Carol Vicars: we yeah, it's the way they are going Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: to be, Sylvia Jessee: So Carol Vicars: actually. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Uh the maybe in the colour we can make it uh fruit and and veggie. Shelby Ferdig: But that's if you're using the covers. Arlene Kennedy: And the then Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: we can Shelby Ferdig: Or Arlene Kennedy: al Shelby Ferdig: is it just Arlene Kennedy: yes. Shelby Ferdig: one Arlene Kennedy: We can we can consider uh uh is it possible do you think, to to make a cover for s such a phone? I mean Shelby Ferdig: Well they make it for mobiles, it can't be that much Carol Vicars: But why Shelby Ferdig: more Carol Vicars: do Shelby Ferdig: complicated. Carol Vicars: you want to cover that actually? In that uh w in Arlene Kennedy: Well Carol Vicars: the mod Arlene Kennedy: just with the with the flexible plastic uh Shelby Ferdig: So you got the option of having different colours or different Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: textures. Sylvia Jessee: This is possible. Arlene Kennedy: I Carol Vicars: Uh Arlene Kennedy: th I th I think Carol Vicars: uh y are you sure? Yeah I think yeah it should be possible like what we do with the mobile Arlene Kennedy: O o Carol Vicars: phone, Arlene Kennedy: or Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: just two things which can be put on each other. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah exactly like Nokia phones. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Carol Vicars: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: exactly like it. Uh, so Maybe we can but we have to decide it, we can put the the the fancy f look of vegetables for instance, Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: to to these covers and s now try to invest in the in in the features. Shelby Ferdig: I think the if we do the cover that's really going with the company's philosophy of having the fashion in in electronics, it Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: lets people have the latest fashion even next year when fruit and vegetables might be out, you'll still be able to put a new cover on Arlene Kennedy: Mm Shelby Ferdig: it and then Arlene Kennedy: mm Shelby Ferdig: it'll Arlene Kennedy: mm Shelby Ferdig: still Arlene Kennedy: mm Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: mm. Shelby Ferdig: be in fashion. Sylvia Jessee: 'Cause sometimes look at this computer, th this laptop, it's all black, Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: and uh it's quite conventional, and sometimes people don't like too much flashy colours like Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: this one presented here. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: So maybe we could do like in the range the set of Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: what we propose a black one, Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: very Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: standard one, Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Sylvia Jessee: that meets the the requirements of th such people that want really standard Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: uh things. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Mm. Shelby Ferdig: And then you have the option of having the different colours, Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Shelby Ferdig: different Arlene Kennedy: So Shelby Ferdig: covers. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: so so that that would make the trends equal, so we we we really have Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: don't Shelby Ferdig: There's Arlene Kennedy: have, Shelby Ferdig: n yeah. 'Cause Arlene Kennedy: I Shelby Ferdig: that's Arlene Kennedy: mean Shelby Ferdig: the that's the feature that could be included in either of them. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: Although it is more with the spongy buttons on the um Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Shelby Ferdig: on Sylvia Jessee: so Shelby Ferdig: the other Arlene Kennedy: indeed. Sylvia Jessee: a Shelby Ferdig: one. Sylvia Jessee: a point better for the Shelby Ferdig: Okay. So. Sylvia Jessee: for the number two. Shelby Ferdig: Two and three, or one and two? Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Carol Vicars: Yeah, it's Arlene Kennedy: Say, say one and two. One Carol Vicars: one. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: and two. Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: So le le let's see. So d this Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: one has spongy but buttons? Carol Vicars: Yeah, it Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Carol Vicars: says Sylvia Jessee: the blue Carol Vicars: a Sylvia Jessee: one uh spongy. Arlene Kennedy: Mm, I see, yes okay. Shelby Ferdig: Okay so the average Arlene Kennedy: Good. Shelby Ferdig: of that is three six nine divided by five, so Arlene Kennedy: Just add Shelby Ferdig: five Arlene Kennedy: it. Sylvia Jessee: Nine. Arlene Kennedy: You know. Carol Vicars: One Shelby Ferdig: mm Carol Vicars: point Arlene Kennedy: Three, Carol Vicars: six, Arlene Kennedy: six, Carol Vicars: one Shelby Ferdig: nine Carol Vicars: point Shelby Ferdig: by five, Arlene Kennedy: seven. Shelby Ferdig: one point s eight? Carol Vicars: One point eight yeah. Shelby Ferdig: This one, eleven thirteen nineteen twenty one, Carol Vicars: Four point Shelby Ferdig: divided by five is four point two yep. Carol Vicars: Uh four point two. Sylvia Jessee: Very good. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. But we still got a very different price for those two so they're Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: not really comparable yet anyway. Arlene Kennedy: We we must Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, it's right, Arlene Kennedy: try to Sylvia Jessee: yeah Arlene Kennedy: get them Sylvia Jessee: that's Arlene Kennedy: closer. Sylvia Jessee: right. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Both Carol Vicars: Wow. Arlene Kennedy: in i i or we just have to choose. And adapt. Because, Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: when we choose for this one we have to we have to make it more attractive Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: and w when we to d for this one we have to make it more cheap. Shelby Ferdig: Well it's easier to just make that one cheaper by just taking the speech recognition out. That'll basically take us down Arlene Kennedy: Yes, Shelby Ferdig: to Arlene Kennedy: well Shelby Ferdig: the budget. Arlene Kennedy: But I'm now did y did you work with the same prices that I have here? Sylvia Jessee: So I I give yeah I just give a call with the manufacturer uh and uh I explained them and they told Shelby Ferdig Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: this could be possible for sixteen Fr Euros. Uh unfortunately we didn't see this chip, Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: uh Carol Vicars: Yep. Sylvia Jessee: Matthew, Arlene Kennedy: Mm, Sylvia Jessee: so maybe Arlene Kennedy: tha Sylvia Jessee: we have to recap with this one. Carol Vicars: Maybe we ought to reconsider everything with this, yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Well yes, well uh re reconsider it. So let's let's try to to model this this Carol Vicars: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: phone in this sheet, uh what kind of energy source uh I I we didn't speak about that. It's a it's a normal battery, or Carol Vicars: Yeah, it migh It it'll need uh more than a conventional one, it won't be uh just maybe you might use a A_A_ battery actually. What do you say, Mael? Sylvia Jessee: For this one it's a normal battery. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Just so one battery. 'Kay. Electronics. given speech recognition I think w you should go for the less fancy chip. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: Uh sample speaker, Arlene Kennedy: Yeah, Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: yes, or sample sensor, yes. Sylvia Jessee: Sample, yeah, this one. Arlene Kennedy: Yes, this one. Okay. Case? Um, Sylvia Jessee: So Carol Vicars: Curved. Double curved yeah right. It's uh Arlene Kennedy: I see I Double Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: curve. Shelby Ferdig: Yeah, it's gonna be more than just the biggest case, definitely. Sylvia Jessee: So Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: which one are we talking to? Carol Vicars: Are you talking about this or Sylvia Jessee: Well Carol Vicars: that? Shelby Ferdig: Either Arlene Kennedy: Oh Shelby Ferdig: of them. Arlene Kennedy: yes, we are talking about, Carol Vicars: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: but they have the same shape, but, Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: actually Shelby Ferdig: They're both Arlene Kennedy: bu Shelby Ferdig: going to be not basic cases. Arlene Kennedy: So th th this would be double curves? Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: 'Kay. Uh, plastic would Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: be the Shelby Ferdig: The basic one, Arlene Kennedy: material. Shelby Ferdig: yep. Sylvia Jessee: Is it zero Franc? Carol Vicars: A special colour? Arlene Kennedy: Uh special colour, now we leave it to the covers. Carol Vicars: Uh Shelby Ferdig: So now we're either going Arlene Kennedy: Push. Shelby Ferdig: button or L_C_D_s, L_C_D_ display. Arlene Kennedy: Mm, yes, but Sylvia Jessee: L_C_D_ is. It's okay. Just say L_C_D_. Shelby Ferdig: Is that price per unit, or for the whole Arlene Kennedy: Yeah Carol Vicars: Ah Arlene Kennedy: th Shelby Ferdig: thing? Carol Vicars: good. Arlene Kennedy: now this is per per unit, Shelby Ferdig: So Arlene Kennedy: this Shelby Ferdig: it Arlene Kennedy: number Shelby Ferdig: would Arlene Kennedy: of Shelby Ferdig: need Arlene Kennedy: components. Shelby Ferdig: twelve Carol Vicars: Yeah, Shelby Ferdig: buttons. Carol Vicars: we might need a scroll wheel, right, for that? Sylvia Jessee: No but for this one it's twelve Carol Vicars: No, Sylvia Jessee: Euro. Carol Vicars: for that one also. Sylvia Jessee: There are twelve? Arlene Kennedy: So, Carol Vicars: Yeah that's a scroll. Arlene Kennedy: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, t Yes. Twelve I believe. So this comes to eighteen. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. And that's without any special button supplements. Carol Vicars: Yeah, one scroll wheel you might need. Arlene Kennedy: So Shelby Ferdig: So we'd have a special colour, special form and special material on all of them. They're not just Carol Vicars: Uh Shelby Ferdig: standard buttons. Arlene Kennedy: So I think but th do you agree Sylvia Jessee: Wait a Arlene Kennedy: th Sylvia Jessee: minute, Arlene Kennedy: that Sylvia Jessee: it's Arlene Kennedy: thi Sylvia Jessee: not it's not double curved, it's single curved, right? Because it's there is no like. Arlene Kennedy: Yes Shelby Ferdig: But Arlene Kennedy: I Shelby Ferdig: I thought it would be curved on two it's like it's curved on the sides and curved on the top and bottom Arlene Kennedy: Yes Shelby Ferdig: as Arlene Kennedy: I'm Shelby Ferdig: well, Arlene Kennedy: I'm Shelby Ferdig: that's Arlene Kennedy: no Shelby Ferdig: what Arlene Kennedy: I'm Shelby Ferdig: I thought. Arlene Kennedy: no I'm not sh sure. Sylvia Jessee: Well it's Arlene Kennedy: Yes I kno undes I understand Sylvia Jessee: you know Arlene Kennedy: what you mean, Sylvia Jessee: this Arlene Kennedy: yes. Sylvia Jessee: curve like this so, it's w there is only is is is there is nothing like y you know in the other stuff Shelby Ferdig: You talking about Sylvia Jessee: there Shelby Ferdig: concave Sylvia Jessee: are Arlene Kennedy: Uh-huh. Sylvia Jessee: yeah concave. Shelby Ferdig: curves? Sylvia Jessee: So I Arlene Kennedy: Both. Sylvia Jessee: think we can put um Shelby Ferdig: You think a single curved? Sylvia Jessee: the single curved in the sixteen. That makes uh seventeen. And what are just The bt buttons, we have twelve buttons, are you sure? Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Uh Shelby Ferdig: We have more, we've got those the scroll Sylvia Jessee: So Shelby Ferdig: wheel on the side Sylvia Jessee: I had a Shelby Ferdig: and Sylvia Jessee: bad uh Shelby Ferdig: yeah Carol Vicars: Bad estimate, Arlene Kennedy: W d Carol Vicars: right? Shelby Ferdig: The sc Sylvia Jessee: bad estimation. Arlene Kennedy: we have we haven't talk about a, but that's no a is very exp inexpensive Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: I believe but it is not in the list. Shelby Ferdig: We've got a scroll wheel for the volume don't we, or is it some other thing that's not on there. Arlene Kennedy: W ho h is this a scroll wheel or is this a a a sort Sylvia Jessee: No no Arlene Kennedy: of Sylvia Jessee: no. Arlene Kennedy: button which can be pressed on two sides uh so for higher and lower? Shelby Ferdig: 'Kay we've only got five minutes left guys so we need to wrap it up pretty fast. Sylvia Jessee: Yes, a kind of scroll wheel. Shelby Ferdig: So this is even more than the um Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: than the cost you gave, the sixteen Euros. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: Okay, so based on that, yeah, um where is the es okay sample speaker Carol Vicars: That is the sample sensor and sample speaker. Arlene Kennedy: So um Sylvia Jessee: But still, yeah Carol Vicars: We just Sylvia Jessee: it Carol Vicars: need that actually. Arlene Kennedy: We're Carol Vicars: We need one. Arlene Kennedy: We We could go for the for the for the for the for a simple chip, but then we can't have the the speech recognition, yes? Yes? Sylvia Jessee: No we cannot, yeah. Arlene Kennedy: So so Sylvia Jessee: So Carol Vicars: S Arlene Kennedy: w when we w a Sylvia Jessee: But the Arlene Kennedy: this Sylvia Jessee: um Arlene Kennedy: would this would be cutting the speech recognition. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah but if you have the near the L_C_D_ you can um choose select between um you know like uni universal between audio, T_V_ and V_C_R_, and this needs a needs a advanced chip. Arlene Kennedy: Transti Sylvia Jessee: Right, Matthew? Carol Vicars: Oh I i Sylvia Jessee: Or Carol Vicars: it Sylvia Jessee: regular chip? Carol Vicars: I think it's going Sylvia Jessee: I think Carol Vicars: to be y Sylvia Jessee: yeah regular, Carol Vicars: y yeah Sylvia Jessee: today Carol Vicars: it's th Sylvia Jessee: we you can do that Arlene Kennedy: Say Sylvia Jessee: with Carol Vicars: with Sylvia Jessee: regular Carol Vicars: the regular Sylvia Jessee: chip. Carol Vicars: chip, Arlene Kennedy: say Carol Vicars: yeah. Arlene Kennedy: it's regular, Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Okay. Arlene Kennedy: regular chip, Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: and we still Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: on fifteen, so Sylvia Jessee: So. And what about the number of buttons buttons uh Arlene Kennedy: Yes but that maybe Sylvia Jessee: my Arlene Kennedy: Well we can just say Sylvia Jessee: Matthew? Carol Vicars: Uh Arlene Kennedy: one. Sylvia Jessee: When you look at this w, this u uh item, Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Ca l we are just Sylvia Jessee: But Arlene Kennedy: when we just want to uh to cut the number of buttons we have to make seven to to fit in in twelve twelve fifty. So is it possible? Shelby Ferdig: But that's seven basic buttons right, seven buttons without any adds-on, without special colours or form or material. Carol Vicars: That'll Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: be then we have uh have to ask the user to press it several Sylvia Jessee: You Carol Vicars: times. Sylvia Jessee: cannot make a phone to your boss saying twelve fifty is really Arlene Kennedy: No no, he Sylvia Jessee: really Arlene Kennedy: he Sylvia Jessee: low, Shelby Ferdig: Well Arlene Kennedy: he Sylvia Jessee: no? Arlene Kennedy: I I Shelby Ferdig: So the L_C_D_ display is is three Francs, sorry three Euros, Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: by itself. Sylvia Jessee: And uh we don't want to to change that right? We Carol Vicars: Uh Sylvia Jessee: we really want a L_C_D_ other Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm. Sylvia Jessee: otherwise we w wouldn not get the market. Arlene Kennedy: Otherwise y Sylvia Jessee: It's evident. Arlene Kennedy: you ha you have a s ve very normal uh thing like this. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Mm. So Sylvia Jessee: And I Shelby Ferdig: twelve Sylvia Jessee: dunno Shelby Ferdig: Euro fifty, we got two off of the battery, we can't do anything about that, so ten fifty, if we want an L_C_D_ dispra display, that's seven fifty um, so we've got seven fifty to use for the case and for the buttons. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: And the chip. Sorry the chip's up there already. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Shelby Ferdig: So we're gonna have to scale this down to get within budget, there's no doubt about that. Arlene Kennedy: A Sylvia Jessee: So wha what what each of us think about the because it's measure point the L_C_D_, um Do you think it's important? Carol Vicars: Or we could even replace them by buttons actually. Sylvia Jessee: Because sometimes whe when you watch the T_V_ in fact, you have a big display and maybe you don't need one more in your hands? I dunno, I'm just Carol Vicars: A actually Arlene Kennedy: Mm Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: it depends, Sylvia Jessee: asking. Carol Vicars: it depends what kind of functionalities you want to add into it, Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Carol Vicars: for example if you add two more functionalities then better you add two more buttons, or Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: and you'll have L_C_D_ display Shelby Ferdig: Yeah. Carol Vicars: which is that is going to bring the cost by Shelby Ferdig: I Carol Vicars: two Shelby Ferdig: think, Carol Vicars: two Euros at least. Shelby Ferdig: unless we can really drive these prices down we need to get rid of the L_C_D_ display. Carol Vicars: Okay so we can Sylvia Jessee: Yeah, Carol Vicars: get Sylvia Jessee: it's Carol Vicars: rid Sylvia Jessee: true Carol Vicars: of it Sylvia Jessee: yeah. Carol Vicars: and then add Sylvia Jessee: But uh, Carol Vicars: a couple of buttons. Sylvia Jessee: do we want that? On the market point of view, yeah. What do you think uh, L_C_D_ is a major feature, Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: or? Arlene Kennedy: I Shelby Ferdig: For the price, it's gonna be what we can afford, and it's looking like we can't afford the L_C_D_ display, there's no way we can get it in there. Arlene Kennedy: I think we have to come to a decision Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: now, just I I think we we what we just do i is vote about the uh the L_C_D_ Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Arlene Kennedy: uh display so Sylvia Jessee: You assume, you want a democratic voyt vote, right? Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Yes. Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: One man one vote. S so who thinks the the L_C_D_ disply display should be i should be in it? Shelby Ferdig: I th I'd like t it to be in but I can't see it happening. I can't Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Shelby Ferdig: see it fitting in. Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: I think but Sylvia Jessee: We Shelby Ferdig: Bu y Sylvia Jessee: need to Shelby Ferdig: you're Sylvia Jessee: be. Shelby Ferdig: a power voter uh veto anyway as Project Arlene Kennedy: Mm-hmm, Shelby Ferdig: Manager. Arlene Kennedy: I know, Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: but Carol Vicars: Yeah but the only thing is that what is the multiple functionalities you want to include with that. Shelby Ferdig: well we have to make a decision now, that's Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: it. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. So uh uh having an L_C_D_ s display is just uh uh have very very limited amount of buttons. Is that acceptable? Ca can I have can the functions be implement in an Sylvia Jessee: Yes. Arlene Kennedy: You've you you agree. Carol Vicars: W I I Arlene Kennedy: So hav Carol Vicars: I just Arlene Kennedy: hav having seven buttons, instead of twelve. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: So that wou would be cutting cutting suh say about these buttons. Sylvia Jessee: Because one yeah th show Shelby Ferdig that uh actually we could in fact we move these three buttons and have three uh possibilities for each of the three here. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: Here one, at the middle, and at the Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Sylvia Jessee: bottom. Shelby Ferdig: I think then we we're really losing ease of use. Sylvia Jessee: Okay, Carol Vicars: That will create another problem. For the people to use it. It's not going to be easy. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Sylvia Jessee: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: Mm. Carol Vicars: Doing that. Arlene Kennedy: So um I I think we should we should cut the L_C_D_ screen. That that's that's my opinion. Carol Vicars: No, it's okay, you uh cut Arlene Kennedy: Just Carol Vicars: the L_C_D_ screen and introduce two more buttons. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. So L_C_D_'s out, is speech rec out now? We've Sylvia Jessee: The speech recognition is out. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Uh where, L_C_ Sylvia Jessee: Because of the budget, yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Okay w we now we can just uh Shelby Ferdig: So are we basically back to the original one now, back to the first version? Which turns out to be on budget exactly, pretty much. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Shelby Ferdig: With these new costings. Sylvia Jessee: Yes. Shelby Ferdig: So just look at forget that one and look at that one now. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. Sylvia Jessee: Yeah. Arlene Kennedy: Yes. I th I th I think w we just go for this one and that Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Arlene Kennedy: that now twelve Euros is the Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: is is the price, okay. Shelby Ferdig: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: My m my Shelby Ferdig: Well that's Arlene Kennedy: supervisor Shelby Ferdig: that's Arlene Kennedy: will be glad that it's fifty cents Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: cheaper than Sylvia Jessee: Actually Arlene Kennedy: he Sylvia Jessee: yeah, Arlene Kennedy: expected. Sylvia Jessee: we we Shelby Ferdig: So. Sylvia Jessee: we will not need the really uh expert designers Shelby Ferdig: Mm. Carol Vicars: Yeah. Sylvia Jessee: um because the amount, yeah. Shelby Ferdig: Yep. Arlene Kennedy: Okay. Shelby Ferdig: So w we can go back and l talk to the suppliers maybe and see if we can drive the prices down to add a few more things in but that's all we can do with the restrictions we have at the moment. Arlene Kennedy: Okay, good. Then we the same. Thank you. Carol Vicars: Okay. Arlene Kennedy: That was it. Shelby Ferdig: Mm-hmm. Carol Vicars: That's it. Sylvia Jessee: Thanks. Carol Vicars: Cool. Shelby Ferdig: Okay.	As the meeting opens Arlene Kennedy tells the group that they must stay within the budget of twelve Euro and fifty cents or will have to redesign. After Matthew arrives the designers begin presenting the two prototypes, beginning with the basic conventional one which is shaped like a surfboard and costs 7 or 8 Euros to produce. It contains an on-off button, volume switch, up/down channel function, 10 digits, and two extra buttons for teletext and an additional function. The next control is futuristic because feels like a mobile phone, has 6 keys, and is smooth. It also has a power button, channel up/down, slow pause/slow stop, LCD screen, toggle switch that changes it from audio to video, and microphone. It would cost 16 Euros to produce, which is out of the budget. Shelby Ferdig gives the product evaluation and they rate them on look and feel, innovation, ease of use, appeal to the correct demographic, and adherence to the company motto and fashion trends. They discuss the energy source, shape, chip type, LCD and speech recognition, and additional buttons. After choosing features their remote costs 12 Euros to produce. They close the meeting by thanking one another.	4	amisum	train
Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: Okay everyone's ready. Alice Rieger: Hello. Jo Caputo: So we are here uh for uh functional design. Okay? So we are here for the functional design meeting mm so first I will show the agenda so we will uh I will take notes during this meeting so I will try to summarise it and put that summary in the shared folder if you want to look at it afterwards so then uh each of you will uh lead a presentation on the task that has been required last time so user requirement specification, technical design and Then I will uh present you some new project requirements I received from uh the management board. Then we will take uh the decision on on the remote control uh needed functions and then I will assign you the task for the next part of the meeting. Of the of the process. So uh who want to start the the presentation of what they did? Carol Lynn: F do you want to start Alice Rieger: Make a start yeah. Jo Caputo: You can start. Alice Rieger: So Cable, camera. Jo Caputo: You have uh PowerPoint? Alice Rieger: Should be in my in their folder no? Jo Caputo: Ah yeah maybe there. Alice Rieger: Up. Jo Caputo: Okay. Who are you? Alice Rieger: Um at three I think. No? Mm. Jo Caputo: Ouch. And Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: We have a technical problem uh. Alice Rieger: Do we think w s in the in the wrong folder maybe? It is possible. Jo Caputo: You put Carol Lynn: No. Jo Caputo: it on Alice Rieger: It was somewhere in something like this. I don't remember the name actually must be something like messenger AMI or something. Carol Lynn: What do you have in short cut? Alice Rieger: Go up. Carol Lynn: Participant two. Alice Rieger: Yeah go up. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Again. No. Go back. Jo Caputo: You have no Alice Rieger: Uh maybe messenger Messenger. Jo Caputo: Over. Okay. Alice Rieger: No. There is nothing. Jo Caputo: There's no We have a Alice Rieger: Let's Jo Caputo: technical Alice Rieger: go and check. Jo Caputo: problem. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: I'll Carol Lynn: Otherwise, Alice Rieger: go and check. Carol Lynn: could you just describe by hand? Alice Rieger: Okay. Carol Lynn: With the the whiteboard? Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: If you remember yeah Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: but Alice Rieger: So Jo Caputo: that's Alice Rieger: uh. Basically what we want here is a remote control right. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: So um the question well first of all what to control. So most people want to have a a remote for their hi-fi and T_V_ and stuff like that. Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: And but other people want th also remotes for controlling uh and toys like robotic pets and Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: little robots and stuff and other people also want to have remotes for controlling um whole house. Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Yeah, so there's a project I think called X_ house or something like that that does that, uh you can integrate your remote with uh computers stuff. Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: So there is one that is one thing. The other is the the finder feature yeah by whistling or whatever. Uh Carol Lynn: Okay. Alice Rieger: if you have the finder feature then you can also have uh at the same time as and general voice commands if you want yeah. Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: So I think it should be a package in that case. Uh so the user interface will consist of two parts. One is the voice command part and on one is the actual buttons part. Uh and th the buttons part would be uh a set of buttons for choosing devices, Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: a set of buttons for special navigation in space, Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: a set of buttons for linear access of medium and a set of buttons for random access. Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: Yeah? Carol Lynn: What do you mean by linear access then? Alice Rieger: Like a video tape goes forward, backwards, Carol Lynn: Ah. Alice Rieger: uh fast and stuff yeah. Um. Jo Caputo: Okay so special navigation, linear access, random access and there's a fourth one no? Alice Rieger: Mm? Jo Caputo: So the better now for special navigation? Alice Rieger: Yeah. For special navigation for example you might have a T_V_ in the menu and you going to Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: change yeah? Jo Caputo: Then linear Alice Rieger: Uh. Jo Caputo: access then Alice Rieger: Mm. Jo Caputo: random access. Alice Rieger: Yeah and also parameter Jo Caputo: Ah yeah Alice Rieger: changing. Jo Caputo: parameter okay. Alice Rieger: So if there are common parameters maybe we should put special buttons for that Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: um or maybe we could have everything uh generic but uh there are a lot of uh remotes on the market right now Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: and basically this is most of the almost everybody has this stuff. Jo Caputo: Okay and and voice command did you uh Alice Rieger: Voice command w we could specify anything. We could assign Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: any button a command to any button, Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: if we have enough processing power, I guess so. Yeah. Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: So that's uh that close your investigations? Alice Rieger: Yeah. Uh Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: yeah I think so. Not so far. Jo Caputo: Okay. Maybe we can have a look at the user requirements with Gay Cusick: Yeah. Um I dunno if you open Jo Caputo: I dunno if Gay Cusick: the Jo Caputo: I can open Gay Cusick: uh Jo Caputo: it. Maybe you Gay Cusick: m Jo Caputo: can Gay Cusick: is Jo Caputo: s Gay Cusick: not here. Jo Caputo: It's Gay Cusick: Uh in yeah okay. Jo Caputo: Messenger Gay Cusick: No. Jo Caputo: no? Gay Cusick: In document. Mm computer yeah. Jo Caputo: In which folder? Alice Rieger: Where did you put it? Gay Cusick: Here. Here. Jo Caputo: Short-cut to Alice Rieger: mm. Jo Caputo: AMI Gay Cusick: But it's Jo Caputo: shared Gay Cusick: not Jo Caputo: folder? Gay Cusick: Um. Jo Caputo: Maybe you can send it to Gay Cusick by email. Just to participant one. At AMI. Gay Cusick: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can do that. Jo Caputo: I will try to show it to everyone, that would be more comfortable. Gay Cusick: Okay. Um. Jo Caputo: You send it? Gay Cusick: It's participant one? Jo Caputo: Yeah. Uh this is this email. Alice Rieger: I'm designing the user interface. Gay Cusick: Okay. You can uh. Jo Caputo: Okay. So maybe I can switch slides when you Gay Cusick: Yeah. Jo Caputo: whenever you ask, that will be more convenient. So okay, Gay Cusick: Okay Jo Caputo: functional Gay Cusick: so Jo Caputo: requirements. Gay Cusick: you can you can go. Okay so in our usability lab we observed the remote control use among one hundred subjects Jo Caputo: Mm. Yeah. Gay Cusick: okay? And here I have the results so you can see that um seventy five per cent of users find most remote controls ugly so we have to find something to make them more more nice, more kind. Eighty per cents of users would spend more money when the remote control would look fancy. Eighty hundred per cent of users would spend more money when the remote control would look oh to it's not good. So okay. So Jo Caputo: We Gay Cusick: it's Jo Caputo: can Gay Cusick: not Jo Caputo: just Gay Cusick: in Jo Caputo: keep Gay Cusick: theory Jo Caputo: doing Gay Cusick: but Jo Caputo: that? Gay Cusick: I I can I can say yeah. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: Fifty f uh seventy five per cent of users say they s zap a lot. So mm we have to have a remote control uh very um out for that. Uh the buttons have are to be um uh uh like you say resist resisting to to shocks. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: Um and fifty per cents of users say they only use uh ten per cents of but of the buttons in the Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: in the remote control. So all the buttons we we have to put are have to to have um a use a real use and not Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: only or Jo Caputo: Okay, so fewer buttons maybe Gay Cusick: Yeah. Jo Caputo: would be Gay Cusick: F Jo Caputo: good? Gay Cusick: not many buttons, and uh and uh uh u useable buttons. Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: But what kind of remote controls did you look at? Gay Cusick: Sorry? Alice Rieger: What kind of task was it? It was a T_V_? Gay Cusick: Yeah. Uh Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: most for most is T_V_. Jo Caputo: Yeah but in fact we it it seems that we are going to make a T_V_ remote control according Alice Rieger: Huh. Jo Caputo: to new requirements I received from the management Alice Rieger: Uh-huh. Jo Caputo: bo I will present them in the following. Alice Rieger: Ah! Good. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: 'Kay you can go so. So there are other frustrations expressed by users, so they said uh they lost uh often the remote control in in the Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: room so they want to have a way to to Jo Caputo: To find Gay Cusick: to Jo Caputo: it. Gay Cusick: find it. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: Um and um lot of the time they it takes too much time to learn how to use Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: a new remote control. So they want something s Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: really very simple and uh Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: easy to use. And uh remote controls are bad for Jo Caputo: What Gay Cusick: R_S_I_ Jo Caputo: is her other side? Gay Cusick: um I Alice Rieger: Other Gay Cusick: dunno. Alice Rieger: side yeah, yo wa your wrist. It i can become painful you can have tendonditis. Jo Caputo: Oh yeah? Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: I did not knew that. Alice Rieger: If you also up on a computer in a strange position. Jo Caputo: Okay so you we have to make it uh more Alice Rieger: Ergonomic. Jo Caputo: ergonomic yeah. Alice Rieger: But uh. Have Gay Cusick: Yeah. Alice Rieger: to say ha ha. Jo Caputo: It's your job Oh. Gay Cusick: Uh. Jo Caputo: Uh sorry got a message from Microsoft. Gay Cusick: Okay um before that I I have some some some thing Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: uh to say before Jo Caputo: Yeah yeah. Gay Cusick: um We know that uh the user use uh a lot their um remote control um to to change channel. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: Um and um to to change uh volume selection of Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: the and uh and not uh a lot for setting for Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: setting the the channels and uh Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: thing things like that. Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: So it's better to put uh uh uh something very easy to set and uh Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: and Jo Caputo: This function should be very Gay Cusick: Very Jo Caputo: uh accessible. Gay Cusick: accessible yes. Jo Caputo: Yeah, okay. Gay Cusick: That's right. Jo Caputo: This is the main function okay. Gay Cusick: So then we asked some questions to them and Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: um we asked this question if Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: they prefer an L_C_D_ screen or on their remultific function remotes control and if they mm pay more for speech recognition in remote control Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: and you can go we have here the results of Alice Rieger: The first question. Gay Cusick: of the questions. So you know that um for the younger it's very important Jo Caputo: To have L_C_D_ Gay Cusick: to have Jo Caputo: and Gay Cusick: the Jo Caputo: voice. Gay Cusick: s yes and speech recognition. And uh and the others is not so important but uh we know that uh uh people between fifteen and twenty five are people who watch a lot T_V_ and uh who who wh can use a lot this uh. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: So maybe we we can have a speech Jo Caputo: Yeah maybe Gay Cusick: recognition Jo Caputo: this this Gay Cusick: in. Jo Caputo: is important. Gay Cusick: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Moreover th maybe those uh like those teenager customer could advice their parents to buy this equipment and Alice Rieger: Mm. Jo Caputo: so we can we have to take care of that point of view I think or so. Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: Okay and if there is th the conclusion now. So as we say before, I think uh um a remote control lightening in the dark it's it's a good thing. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: Uh not to many mud buttons like we we said before, e Jo Caputo: Yeah. Gay Cusick: easy to use uh a way to find it easily in the room and uh uh resistant to to shock and to Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: to Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: An I s no, Jo Caputo: Okay Gay Cusick: yeah. Jo Caputo: these are the user Gay Cusick: I dunno Jo Caputo: requi Gay Cusick: if you see something else important or Carol Lynn: I'm just thinking of some thing. Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Carol Lynn: Um We want to have a no, I know if a idea. We want to have a a general remote control for everything. Jo Caputo: No no no. We w it seems that we no want to have a T_V_ remote control. Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: From Alice Rieger: Mm. Jo Caputo: the management board I receive Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: an email. Cos it would be costly uh and and also it it would take more time to develop to Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: have Carol Lynn: Yeah Jo Caputo: a Carol Lynn: yeah. Jo Caputo: a general generic remote Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: control. Alice Rieger: Mm I it's not true I think. The Carol Lynn: No no. Alice Rieger: the second claim that you put. Jo Caputo: That it would be too long to Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: develop. Alice Rieger: I think that should be the same. Jo Caputo: Oh yeah. Because I received that email from management board and they seems to tell that that if we want to be on the market as early as possible we should uh focus on T_V_ more where it seems that the market is more important. So maybe it's a good decision. I dunno. What's your Alice Rieger: I have Jo Caputo: opinion? Alice Rieger: uh I've no idea I mean I should know a bit more about how fast we can uh design it. I don't think Uh yeah. Carol Lynn: Finish tonight. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Okay. Carol Lynn: But basically yeah Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: maybe I can continue with my presentation, it would be Jo Caputo: Okay. Carol Lynn: al Gay Cusick: Yeah. Carol Lynn: you Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: you but I think we have some technical problem or so. So I'm just going to describe briefly what we do in the remote control. Jo Caputo: Maybe Carol Lynn: If Jo Caputo: you can Carol Lynn: fact Jo Caputo: go to the whiteboard if you have some drawings to do I Carol Lynn: Yeah Jo Caputo: don't Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: know. Carol Lynn: but Do I have oh yeah. Now I have enough cables. Alice Rieger: Like a you feel a bit like a dog with this stuff. Carol Lynn: Okay so I'm just going to describe in fact for for a remote control this is quite easy. We just have sorry, I'm going Jo Caputo: Okay. Are you okay? Carol Lynn: Like that. I'm just going to describe. Basically we have a a battery a power supply here. After that we just have um user interface. Let's say that um something like that, which could be um a L_C_D_ let's say or um an array of push button, something like that. Push button or a L_C_D_. After that we we feed that into um uh an electronic chip. So I say U_C_ and I feed that to uh L_E_D_ which is uh infrared um which is a an infrared um component. And so what we for for myself this for for us this is quite easy. Jo Caputo: U_C_ is the central unit? Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Okay Carol Lynn: Y Jo Caputo: yeah. Carol Lynn: it's a it's this just a chip which does all the um numerical Jo Caputo: Computation. Carol Lynn: numerical computation Jo Caputo: Okay. Carol Lynn: according to your display. And so for us uh this is quite easy. We just need to take to define what we want to do when the user interface um wants something and after that we just do the coding to s and send that to to to the not the to the television. Jo Caputo: Okay. Carol Lynn: So for us this is quite easy. Jo Caputo: Okay so this is quite easy. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Um Jo Caputo: There is not that much Carol Lynn: we just Jo Caputo: constraints. Carol Lynn: have to define the processing power that we need uh especially if we want to do some uh speech recognition, in that case that mean that we are going to use more Alice Rieger: This Carol Lynn: for simple Alice Rieger: will think this will take more time to develop Carol Lynn: Yeah Alice Rieger: also. Carol Lynn: of course of Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: course. And um but for a standard one this is really easy. It's a question of one Alice Rieger: Soon. Carol Lynn: month and so Jo Caputo: To Carol Lynn: on Jo Caputo: have a Carol Lynn: s Jo Caputo: you s you speak about with voi voice control? Carol Lynn: No no no no, I say Jo Caputo: Standard button one. Carol Lynn: yeah standard uh standard remote control takes maybe uh one month to to do that. Alice Rieger: Yeah. So the only time problem is the sp voice recognition. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: Definitely. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: So do you have any idea of how long it would take to have voice recognition now? Carol Lynn: I would say. Alice Rieger: Ten years. Carol Lynn: I would say uh about eight months to have the first results. Jo Caputo: Okay so i it's a bit long yeah. Carol Lynn: Yeah. I can Um. Jo Caputo: One month for the standard one with button. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Even if we have a L_C_D_ display? Carol Lynn: Yeah even. I mean that this is really standard devices now. Um eight. For uh speech recognition. Jo Caputo: Okay yeah. Okay so we can take this into account. So who think it would be good to go for uh like speech recognition? Alice Rieger: But we don't have time to market. Carol Lynn: And also Jo Caputo: Yeah it Carol Lynn: how Jo Caputo: will. Carol Lynn: much uh I think Alice Rieger: I think we should contact Carol Lynn: during Alice Rieger: management. Carol Lynn: the kickoff meeting you say that we we shouldn't we shouldn't go up to twelve point five Euro Jo Caputo: Euros. Carol Lynn: per Jo Caputo: Yeah, Carol Lynn: unit Jo Caputo: yeah. Carol Lynn: so how many units should we sell to have a Alice Rieger: Well. Jo Caputo: Well Alice Rieger: Uh Jo Caputo: each unit is is sell uh twenty five Euros. Carol Lynn: Yeah but how many yeah. Alice Rieger: How muc how much do you get how much do you if you buy one million units h no, one hundred thousand units. Eh chips. We're gonna need chips right. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Yeah. How much will it cost for one hundred thousand? Carol Lynn: Usually this is less tha at two dollars per chip. Alice Rieger: Okay. Jo Caputo: Because Alice Rieger: So Jo Caputo: we Alice Rieger: you Jo Caputo: are Alice Rieger: have any idea for a powerful one that has uh good enough for do speech recognition. Carol Lynn: Yeah, Alice Rieger: Yeah? Okay. Carol Lynn: we can Alice Rieger: So. No Jo Caputo: It Alice Rieger: it Jo Caputo: seems Alice Rieger: doesn't. Jo Caputo: that that we want to sell like four million units from the Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: first meeting. Alice Rieger: Okay. Four million. Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: Mm. Carol Lynn: Um I just had a question uh do you want to continue with your presenta? Jo Caputo: Yeah Carol Lynn: Is Jo Caputo: I Carol Lynn: it Jo Caputo: I will continue. Well ask your question if you want. Carol Lynn: Um you say that I don't remember by heart but thirty per cent Gay Cusick: Mm? Carol Lynn: of the tested people say that's it's quite difficult to to to use the remote control. Gay Cusick: Yeah. Carol Lynn: Do they say that this is difficult but for the same reason or do they have other reason? Gay Cusick: Oh. Carol Lynn: To to Gay Cusick: Would j Carol Lynn: maybe to keep in mind maybe to access to that menu you should do something like Gay Cusick: Uh Carol Lynn: that. Gay Cusick: yeah w I I think they they say that it's uh difficult to learn how to use it Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: but i when you know how to use it, Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: it's it's Jo Caputo: Okay. Gay Cusick: okay. Carol Lynn: And Gay Cusick: But Jo Caputo: It's not intuitive first. Gay Cusick: Yeah. Carol Lynn: But yeah maybe and what about if we design a remote control which can be configure as you want? You say that I want, I have six Alice Rieger: Mh-hmm. Carol Lynn: button Alice Rieger: A a lot of people are uh if you have the L_C_D_ screen Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: if you can Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: do it completely the way you want because the buttons also look Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: the way Jo Caputo: But, Alice Rieger: you want them Jo Caputo: but also Alice Rieger: but Jo Caputo: it seems Alice Rieger: it will be Jo Caputo: that Alice Rieger: hard to configure I mean imagine Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: i uh so it's really something for the expert user. Carol Lynn: Okay. Alice Rieger: So I mean there are markets and markets. I think the young people are th uh are uh Christine here said uh Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: you have a Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: uh it is yeah. So for our young people uh it will be cool, they can be able to use it. Th maybe their parents will not but they will configure it. I guess. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: Maybe it would be more complex to Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: configure it Carol Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. Jo Caputo: to be simple Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Mm. Jo Caputo: than Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: creating a simple product. Alice Rieger: And there Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: are another thing is that if we make something that's simple and easy to use that's bas to use immediately that means that it will be exactly the same as everything else. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: All right? Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Otherwise, if it's different then of course everybody has somebody has to learn to use it first. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Yeah. But also we we see that that most people find it find remote controls too complex because they have too many buttons and they mainly use only channels Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: and Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: volume buttons. So we may just uh make a very easy to use remote control with mainly those buttons Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: and maybe also um some lightning stuff too because most people find also hard to to find the remote control. Losed Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: lose it etcetera. These these are these two points are the main frustrations so maybe if we design something very simple and easy to uh find when lost it will uh add uh a serious competitive advantage without Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: making something too complex and too long to develop. Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: So but le let us see first the new requirement. So we don't have to so this this uh is uh is um in the this is in the same direction as we were speaking so we don't have to make a very complex remote controls to access teletext and stuff like that Alice Rieger: But teletext is just one button. Jo Caputo: Yeah but then you have to you have to define the buttons to surf Alice Rieger: You Jo Caputo: amongst Alice Rieger: you Jo Caputo: pages Alice Rieger: just write Jo Caputo: and stuff. Alice Rieger: the write the numbers. Jo Caputo: Yeah. So Alice Rieger: So will Jo Caputo: well Alice Rieger: you add with the channel keys, right? Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: So. Jo Caputo: So anyway we don't have to include this feature because it's it's not used any more by users, they prefer to s Alice Rieger: I am. I'm sure that uh it don't like but uh I don't see just one button. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: So. Jo Caputo: I dunno. If i one button is still one more button. If if if we want to make it very simple we have to reduce number of buttons compared to th to our competitors. Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: Well anyway I have this point. We can discuss. Also um so as as I told before uh it would be better if it's only for the T_V_ um because we want to be quick on on the market. And then also we have to make very uh uh clear that this uh this remote control is is part of of our products and show our corporate uh logo and and colours on the on the design as well so that uh they identify it as one of our product. So this is the the key point. So before uh finishing we can uh define uh what would be the characteristic of the o th of the control of the remote control and which button do we need which function do we want etcetera. Alice Rieger: Capital. Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: So do you um so so from from the Gay Cusick I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect, it should be Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: very simple and most button are never used only ten per cent of the button are are used often so I think we have to do something very simple and I think we all agree on that point, Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: no? Gay Cusick: Mm. Alice Rieger: Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple. Jo Caputo: Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe. So few buttons, channel, volume control and what el what function do you see Alice Rieger: Well if it's Jo Caputo: in addition Alice Rieger: going to Jo Caputo: to Alice Rieger: be Jo Caputo: that? Alice Rieger: as simple as possible then just have the remote control, there is no other function that I can see really. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Maybe switch T_V_ on and off Alice Rieger: Uh no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can revenue can come back to us. Or Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: something. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Volume, maybe a mute button, and then Carol Lynn: Mm. Jo Caputo: on off button. And that's all? Carol Lynn: Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of a lot of zapping. Gay Cusick: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: Mm. Carol Lynn: I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look, uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now, Alice Rieger: It's Carol Lynn: you have a Alice Rieger: a Carol Lynn: button, Alice Rieger: memory, Carol Lynn: you Alice Rieger: yeah. Carol Lynn: you press it, and this is uh the previous channel which Jo Caputo: Okay. Carol Lynn: has come back. Jo Caputo: Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button, the previous channel button, the Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: volume button, plus a mute button, Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: and uh just the the traditional on off Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: button. Alice Rieger: And uh and of course the channel changing buttons. Jo Caputo: Yeah. I I talk Alice Rieger: How Jo Caputo: about that, Alice Rieger: should they Jo Caputo: yeah? Alice Rieger: how should we implement that? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: them. Carol Lynn: Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental, but once you press it for a long time, you go five by five. Jo Caputo: We go Carol Lynn: To Jo Caputo: faster? Carol Lynn: go fa to go faster. Jo Caputo: Mm. Alice Rieger: Mm. It's an interesting idea, that if you press it for a long time it does something else, in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have instead of having just one memory Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: you have if you press them for a long time No. Doesn't work does it. Jo Caputo: Maybe we should have also a digit Alice Rieger: Maybe Jo Caputo: button Alice Rieger: we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Change channel to eight. No. Jo Caputo: Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental. I dunno bec because Alice Rieger: Well Jo Caputo: if Alice Rieger: if Jo Caputo: you Alice Rieger: it's Jo Caputo: have the Alice Rieger: useful like if if you want to change between three channels for example then you h Jo Caputo: Uh. Alice Rieger: you cannot you cannot cannot work with just memory being incremental. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Because you have your previous channel button if you have incremental only it's Carol Lynn: Yeah. Jo Caputo: not uh it isn't worth it because the previous channel is eith either minus one or plus one. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Yeah. Jo Caputo: So I think we need also digits. Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: Maybe we we can make very obvious the channel and volume button button and smaller button down there with the the digits. Alice Rieger: Yeah when you zap usually you will have to press the same button all the time Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: and Carol Lynn: Or we can do something like that. We can Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: design the remote control to have access. You know some remote control have uh protection Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Carol Lynn: and so you you y Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Hey Carol Lynn: You Alice Rieger: I just thought this thing there is a I mean you know there is are some with a wheel like this. Instead of having the up down buttons for Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: uh Carol Lynn: Yeah, Alice Rieger: you can have Carol Lynn: a kind Alice Rieger: the wheel. Carol Lynn: of joystick. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Maybe we can have a wheel for incremental. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: Okay. So have a wheel for incremental, have the digits uh on the lower side that can be closed so as Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: you say protected, Alice Rieger: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: and uh yeah I think this is Alice Rieger: On Jo Caputo: the Alice Rieger: the lower Jo Caputo: basi Alice Rieger: side I think it you have to turn it. No? Jo Caputo: And do Alice Rieger: If Jo Caputo: we Alice Rieger: we do Jo Caputo: do Alice Rieger: that. Jo Caputo: we have a Carol Lynn: Or a or a ball, yeah, not a a wheel but a ball, and you say uh Jo Caputo: No, a wheel is Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: to Jo Caputo: better. I would say the wheel is better. Alice Rieger: Because Jo Caputo: What Alice Rieger: of Jo Caputo: is Alice Rieger: that Jo Caputo: the expert of uh Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Because it's uh it's it's not like a volume which is smooth yeah? The channels change one by one. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: So you have to the user has to like to should feel the the Carol Lynn: Yeah, Alice Rieger: the discrete Carol Lynn: the yeah. Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: sense a bit. Jo Caputo: Yeah. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: That's a good idea. Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote Carol Lynn: 'S quite Jo Caputo: control. Carol Lynn: it's quite easy we do Jo Caputo: Okay. Carol Lynn: that w with back light on Alice Rieger: Yeah. Carol Lynn: the Alice Rieger: Even Carol Lynn: on Alice Rieger: if Carol Lynn: the Alice Rieger: i Carol Lynn: wheel. Alice Rieger: L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ Carol Lynn: A blue Alice Rieger: feature uh Carol Lynn: a blue L_E_D_ Alice Rieger: whatever, Carol Lynn: and Alice Rieger: yeah. Jo Caputo: Yeah, Carol Lynn: we sell that Jo Caputo: and Carol Lynn: um. Jo Caputo: do we put Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: an L_C_D_ display? Because it was important for young customers if you remember. Alice Rieger: I think it's only put on if cou have multi function. Carol Lynn: Yeah. Alice Rieger: If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_. Just increase the cost. Jo Caputo: Okay. Alice Rieger: The user does not have an advantage really. Jo Caputo: So no L_C_D_? Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Gay Cusick: Hmm. Jo Caputo: And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: development Alice Rieger: Well if it's going Jo Caputo: process. Alice Rieger: to delay yeah but uh it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go Gay Cusick: Mm-hmm. Alice Rieger: C_N_N_. Mm. Jo Caputo: Yeah. That would be cool. But Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: eight months is really long and Maybe we can just uh Carol Lynn: Ten years Jo Caputo: Okay. So um I I will uh I will so I we will move to next meeting so in after the lunch break Carol Lynn: Mm-hmm. Jo Caputo: uh here are the individual uh action uh you are required to do but you will be uh recalled to the actions by uh email I think but you can take notes if you if you want but well the instruction will be sent. So thank you for uh your Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: suggestion and I I will make a summary of that meeting that I will put in the shared folder you Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: can't see Carol Lynn: Okay. Jo Caputo: and uh and then you will um you will be able to to see what has been uh has been said on on this meeting and and what has been decided. Uh maybe for next meeting uh send Gay Cusick your presentation before by email so that we can see them uh altogether. Alice Rieger: Yeah. Jo Caputo: That Gay Cusick: Mm. Jo Caputo: would be easier. Alice Rieger: What is the folder that you put yours in? And did it it did work? Gay Cusick: No. Jo Caputo: No it did Gay Cusick: No Jo Caputo: not Gay Cusick: no. Jo Caputo: work. She send Alice Rieger: Ah Jo Caputo: it Alice Rieger: yeah. Gay Cusick: I dunno, Jo Caputo: to Gay Cusick by Alice Rieger: Mm. Jo Caputo: email. Gay Cusick: I dunno it. Alice Rieger: Okay. Jo Caputo: So maybe this is better, to send it by email. Alice Rieger: Okay what Jo Caputo: Okay? Alice Rieger: is your email? Jo Caputo: So yeah I I'm it's in the first uh email so I'm participant one Alice Rieger: At participant Jo Caputo: at AMI Alice Rieger: one. Okay. Jo Caputo: uh where is that, it's here. Participant one at AMI. Okay. So see you after lunch break. Gay Cusick: 'Kay Alice Rieger: Well Gay Cusick: thank Alice Rieger: during Gay Cusick: you. Alice Rieger: lunch break actually. Alice Rieger: So next time we should have a fight. How about uh management or something. Who happens to be your friend.	Alice Rieger presented the major components of the interface design, dividing the interface into two parts: voice commands and buttons. Gay Cusick went over users' requirements as seen in a company study and showed that the major complaint was that remotes were too difficult to use. She also showed that users want fancier and more ergonomic designs, shock protection, voice recognition, and LCD screens. Jo Caputo announced a new requirement to the group, that the remote is only to control televisions. Carol Lynn gave a layout of the internal functions of the device and showed that a standard chip, instead of a larger one that would accomodate voice recognition, would be the most feasible. Jo Caputo announced also that the group was not to include a teletext function and that they should integrate the company logo into the external design. The group decided on what button functions should be included and decided to eliminate the LCD screen and voice recognition from the design due to time and cost restraints.	4	amisum	train
Bertha Thompson: So we are here to talk about functional design Now. hopefully we've all got a better idea from than we did f leaving the last meeting as to what it is we are up to now. So here's an agenda. Uh I'll open. Um you should know that I'll be taking minutes during all the meetings, as I was struggling to our last time uh and that'll be easier for Mary Smith now because I'm not actually giving the whole presentation. Uh the additional points just stuff that we sent that I forwarded on from upper management having a few bright ideas to make our lives painful. Um now you can all give your presentations. We can talk about the requirements and hopefully come to some decisions. Right, forty minutes for this meeting, so a bit more time than the last one. Here's the additional points I just wanted to put those in there to see if you guys had any comments on them. Uh did you all receive that email? Wilma Wyatt: Yep. Mary Smith: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: So does anyone have any overall Mary Smith: Well uh what comes up for Mary Smith that if we're gonna if we're gonna be marketing a product that Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: is going to be uh having no teletext, people Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: are very comfortable with the idea of having teletext and using teletext, Bertha Thompson: Yep. Mary Smith: and so we're not we're gonna be a new product without something that people are very comfortable having right now. So that's, from a marketing perspective Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: I I see I see a lack. And so we have to go, I think, in the other What are we gonna have that makes this thing better Bertha Thompson: Well tha Mary Smith: than Bertha Thompson: that first point could uh also be an op opportunity because in seeing that teletext is becoming outdated, some sort remote control that can work with the Internet there is the opportunity Mary Smith: Right. Bertha Thompson: that's presented, I Mary Smith: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: guess. Mary Smith: No, I I agree with you. So what Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: I'm talking about is I see that one side we're eliminating something so we have to come up with another side which is, what are we gonna be targeting our market uh that identifies our product as better than because it doesn't have teletext it has ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. So Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: that's that's that was my reactions. Bertha Thompson: Yeah. but but we are sort of being dictated that this should only be Mary Smith: Yeah yeah. Bertha Thompson: for the television. So we're quite fixed. Mary Smith: Yep. Bertha Thompson: So we're really probably, in terms of marketing, are looking for that's uh that's a cost winner rather than a fantastic new feature product. Mary Smith: Okay. Andrea Parris: Yeah Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Andrea Parris: bu but we we're remote, we not design the T_V_. Bertha Thompson: Hmm. Andrea Parris: So uh we're gonna be removing the teletext out of any T_V_ Mary Smith: Yeah. Andrea Parris: that we Mary Smith: 'Kay. Andrea Parris: people use our remote with. Mary Smith: That's right. Bertha Thompson: Hmm. Mary Smith: I think Andrea Parris: So Mary Smith: we Andrea Parris: it's Mary Smith: take with you. Andrea Parris: kind of a stupid Bertha Thompson: But Andrea Parris: decision. Bertha Thompson: there's also Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: the potential for mark there's a market here for our lost teletext. For example someone that just goes to the shop that wants a replacement wants it as cheap as possible. Twenty-five Euros is the selling price, we really have to innovate here I guess. Mary Smith: That's what I'm that's what I'm talking about is is that we have to find something that is gonna be very attractive about this product 'cause somebody, some people are gonna be hap unhappy 'cause it took they can't ac access their teletext. Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: Okay. 'Cause we're talking about eighty percent or ninety percent or ninety-five percent of the televisions out there are are teletext. Bertha Thompson: K yeah. Mary Smith: So so it's it's not that I'm criticizing the product at all. It's just when we eliminate that then what do we bring? What are we bringing in to take the place of this, and we have to Bertha Thompson: Mm Mary Smith: d Bertha Thompson: 'kay. Mary Smith: in my opinion we have to double up. If we lose one we need to bring two or Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: three. Bertha Thompson: Okay I think that the last point is probably quite uh straightforward. Obviously the the w it has to be branded. Andrea Parris: So then the Bertha Thompson: 'Kay. Andrea Parris: double R_ will be our our Bertha Thompson: On the product yeah. Wilma Wyatt: I think Bertha Thompson: Can Wilma Wyatt: one Andrea Parris: I tho Bertha Thompson: you handle Andrea Parris: I Wilma Wyatt: of Andrea Parris: tho I thou Bertha Thompson: that black and yellow? Andrea Parris: I think Rol Ro Rolls-Royce might mind, but don't worry. Wilma Wyatt: I w, yeah, one of the things that we should also keep in mind um when we're doing this I mean our company's slogan is we put the fashion in electronics, right. So I think our kind of our target here is to have some kind of very like sleek nice look remote and we want it to be functional as well, but I think one of the main selling points is that we don't want it to be clunky like. You Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: know we don't wanna a big clunker. We want something that looks nice and it's fashionable and so Mary Smith: So you have this? Bertha Thompson: Nah. So we have three presentations, and I think we'll go in order of participant number here. So we can have a look at the working design first from participant two. That's Andrea Parris: Yes. Wilma Wyatt: That's fine. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: Okay so Bertha Thompson: Mm it's enough. But uh click it on off? Wilma Wyatt: so you all know Mary Smith, I'm Andrea Parris. And we've some basic components that um our remote is gonna need, just basically every remote'll need 'em. We need some kinda of power d power source. Um we have to decide on our our user interface, which is his department, but the in user interface is also a major component. Um we need a programmable digital signal processor to um to take the input from the user and translate that into uh into electronic signal, which we pass to the infra-red L_E_D_, which you aim at the television uh which and it receives that signal. You need a on-off switch um I don't know how that got in there. And uh we also need to um have the if we want a universal remote we need to have encryption codes for the different makes of T_V_s. So we need to know all the different you know all the different signals and so that'll require some memory as well. Um so here's just a basic layout of how how the remote would work. You ha the v the power source is in the upper right-hand corner there, and you can see that uh we have the user interface here which is connected to the chip which does all our signal processing, and then passes that signal on to the infra-red L_E_D_ and that signal is then emitted and received by the television at the photo-transistor. So those are the basic components that need to go into this and everything else is pretty much uh open to move around. Mary Smith: Now is would this be considered just a standard uh um Wilma Wyatt: I think any Mary Smith: This Wilma Wyatt: des Mary Smith: is not this is not cutting edge technology we're talking here. We're talking Wilma Wyatt: No. Mary Smith: about existing technology. Wilma Wyatt: Right I think Mary Smith: Nothing is being modified or upgraded or Wilma Wyatt: Yeah this is Mary Smith: new discoveries. Wilma Wyatt: just this is just a basic layout of ev of all the components that w w are gonna be absolutely necessary f to have a working remote. We can add things in like if we wanted some voice recognition, I mean that I mean that you can kinda say would would fall under the user interface and the digital signal processing Mary Smith: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: chip. Mary Smith: Okay. Bertha Thompson: Do Wilma Wyatt: But Bertha Thompson: we have an idea of costs of different components? Wilma Wyatt: Um well the most the most costly components are gonna be the chip and the uh th it could als basically the user interface and the casing are gonna be expensive as well. Um Bertha Thompson: 'Kay. Wilma Wyatt: the L_E_D_ and the the transistors and everything else are you know they're they're pretty cheap. So depending on what we want our functionality to be, um the chip could be expensive or it could be cheap. Um Bertha Thompson: Mm 'kay. Wilma Wyatt: depending on the n amount of memory we need in there and stuff like that and h and h you know how Bertha Thompson: Do we Wilma Wyatt: much Bertha Thompson: have any Wilma Wyatt: power. Bertha Thompson: ballpark figures for that yet? No. Wilma Wyatt: Uh I don't have any figures right now. Bertha Thompson: 'Kay. Wilma Wyatt: We uh we have to wait until we get to a more specific design phase for that. Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Mary Smith: N okay. Wilma Wyatt: Um but and I think a significant part of the cost could be the actual the actual casing itself and and you know the the b the buttons and things Mary Smith: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: like that, Mary Smith: Mm the Wilma Wyatt: I Mary Smith: shell? Wilma Wyatt: think. Yeah. Basically yeah. Mary Smith: Okay. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: So yeah. That's all I have really. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Thanks. And we have participant three, which I believe is Pedro. Andrea Parris: I Bertha Thompson: I can give you that to Andrea Parris: Hey Bertha Thompson: click Andrea Parris: mouse. Bertha Thompson: on. Andrea Parris: Open. Bertha Thompson: And you wanna get View a slide show, that's what you wanna do, yeah? Just go up to view. Andrea Parris: Uh. Wilma Wyatt: Click, don't Yeah. Bertha Thompson: Mm 'kay Andrea Parris: This doesn't work. So yeah function design. Um you guys know Mary Smith, Pedro, and um what I found is we want to do fashion and I think, honestly, we should keep technology low and just simple basically and try to aim for design. If basically a case will will cost the same if it looks good or bad so we ma we have to make it look good. Um something cute and small. The big chunky remotes are died in the eighties. So we should just go for something that people will like to actually look at. And um although mo most people will buy s televisions and everything for uh that have loads of loads of little functions and everything and they mostly end up using simple functions and little things and most the people won't won't get too mad of actually having to go the to the s to the television to, for instance, tune in their the stations. There's no need to have that in the remote. So um um as for what I would recommend for uh the the interface design, and uh I will change the colours on the on the logo, but um we should go for the user-oriented device, so simple controls and good ergonomics. Um and uh although I th I th I'm still here recommending the teletext so I'll remove that, I guess, but um we should go for Bertha Thompson: But Andrea Parris: the Bertha Thompson: I t I think what the the management recommendation was less that there's a worry that teletext will become outdated rather than we shouldn't have it. So I I still think if it's cheap enough functionality-wise to include, it really should be in there. Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: Because otherwise we're just going to I mean even if it's necessary or not, if you if you're given the choice between a t a remote with teletext or without uh when it really if it i if it isn't more expensive for us to k make because as far as I understand it, it can be operated with the same set of buttons, yeah? Wilma Wyatt: Right Bertha Thompson: So Wilma Wyatt: as Andrea Parris: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: far Bertha Thompson: it Wilma Wyatt: as Bertha Thompson: should Wilma Wyatt: i Bertha Thompson: be in there. Wilma Wyatt: it's just uh the cost of an extra button. I mean software-wise Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: there's really no difference. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: I think. Bertha Thompson: Isn't Mary Smith: I have maybe a silly question. I in the very beginning it said with the with the advent of computers there's gonna be the it's gonna be out-moded teletext. I I don't understand how those two things are connected. How does how does computers and teletext h how why is one eliminating the need of the other? I don't understand that. Bertha Thompson: Well maybe what we're getting into here is the the idea of uh Internet through the T_V_ for example. So that might play on what Andrea Parris: Yeah Bertha Thompson: we can Andrea Parris: the they're Bertha Thompson: do. Andrea Parris: basically aiming at saying that you would use you know a couple of years ago teletext to be the easiest way to check like for uh Wilma Wyatt: Scheduling. Andrea Parris: uh the scheduling and the next programme and stuff like Wilma Wyatt: Um Andrea Parris: that Wilma Wyatt: to find Andrea Parris: and now Wilma Wyatt: out what what you're watching even if there's commercials you know. Andrea Parris: Yeah Mary Smith: Okay. Andrea Parris: and now you can c look it over Internet. But I still think teletext is Wilma Wyatt: I Andrea Parris: way Wilma Wyatt: think Andrea Parris: more convenient Wilma Wyatt: I Andrea Parris: until Wilma Wyatt: ha Andrea Parris: until we have the same commodities. Mary Smith: Yeah 'cause, yeah, Wilma Wyatt: I Mary Smith: I Wilma Wyatt: agree. Mary Smith: just I don't see the cross-over between computers and television. I mean I do see the cross-over in some sense, but Andrea Parris: Yeah, but it's not happen yet. Wilma Wyatt: Well for Mary Smith: but Wilma Wyatt: Mary Smith Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: but Bertha Thompson: Well Mary Smith: but Bertha Thompson: you have Mary Smith: with Bertha Thompson: digital Mary Smith: the the Bertha Thompson: T_V_ Mary Smith: remote Bertha Thompson: still Mary Smith: is is Bertha Thompson: already. Mary Smith: used for television, okay. So Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: so if we make the cross-over and we're gonna view television on computers Wilma Wyatt: Unless you Mary Smith: then Wilma Wyatt: have Mary Smith: we're Wilma Wyatt: a Mary Smith: then we're losing the the necessity of the remote. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: Well there Mary Smith: S Bertha Thompson: there is a for example on digital T_V_ systems you have you can press a button and you can buy things in adverts, and you can uh Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: you can view through a catalogue for example. A a family member of mine has got a system where you just um you can Yeah, and there's other features for example on other systems where you can pause live T_V_ and things like that. They're just features from the Internet uh from computers are are coming into the T_V_ sort of under the covers, Mary Smith: Okay. Bertha Thompson: but you still use it through a teletext. So Mary Smith: Okay. Bertha Thompson: now the things to think here are that that there's gonna be more functionality, Andrea Parris: Yeah but Bertha Thompson: potentially Andrea Parris: we we don't we're not Bertha Thompson: that Andrea Parris: aiming Bertha Thompson: we can handle. Andrea Parris: a command for that. That's the thing. And all of those require the other commands with more complexity and more software Wilma Wyatt: I Andrea Parris: and Wilma Wyatt: think a lot of that's proprietary anyways. You're not gonna be able Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: to, you, like command a TiVo with our remote. I don't think. Bertha Thompson: But still there there's an opportunity. If if it's, for example, a trainable one then we're just simply having like an up, down, left, right, an okay button or something like that might might do as well in future proofing it. Andrea Parris: Yeah but we would increase the price to try to make Bertha Thompson: Mm. Andrea Parris: it a trainable one, so Bertha Thompson: Okay. Andrea Parris: Well I dunno. One way the other teletext was there but I guess we can remove it or, you know, make two separate Wilma Wyatt: I think Andrea Parris: interface Wilma Wyatt: if it's possible Andrea Parris: designs. Wilma Wyatt: you should try to you know have a talk with management about that. Just you know Mary Smith: Yeah I Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: don't I don't see the logic. I Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: I don't see the logic in elimination of teletext, I just I I Bertha Thompson: Yeah, and neither Mary Smith: but I'm Bertha Thompson: do I Mary Smith: not a tech-mind Bertha Thompson: in fact. Mary Smith: either. I just don't see the cross-over between computers and and and Bertha Thompson: Bu Mary Smith: 'Cause Bertha Thompson: uh. Mary Smith: we are designing something for a television, okay. Bertha Thompson: I'll communicate that back to those guys there a a and th the message really we wanna be sending to them is that, although teletext may become outdated w there's no l logic in not having it in there anyway Andrea Parris: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: i if Wilma Wyatt: Right Bertha Thompson: it Wilma Wyatt: it's Bertha Thompson: doesn't Wilma Wyatt: just not Bertha Thompson: affect the price. Mary Smith: We are selling Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: it to an existing market. Bertha Thompson: future-proof our system for future systems that have something else other than teletext maybe. Andrea Parris: Yeah Bertha Thompson: I Andrea Parris: but Bertha Thompson: dunno Andrea Parris: we're not Bertha Thompson: I'm Andrea Parris: putting Mary Smith: That's Andrea Parris: some there's no no putting anything in in the place of teletext. Mary Smith: Yeah, and Bertha Thompson: Mm Mary Smith: and, Bertha Thompson: 'kay. Mary Smith: yeah, Andrea Parris: That's the Mary Smith: and Andrea Parris: problem. Mary Smith: and we're also marketing a product. It's what I'm seeing is a is a mid-range cost product. So so Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: w we can't go and pump a whole bunch of technology Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Mary Smith: into this thing because all of a sudden we are gonna have cost overruns. So if we drop if we are gonna choose to drop teletext, again what are we adding to the product that makes it marketable? Bertha Thompson: Hmm. So if we're keeping it basic we're loo loo what we're looking to sell it basically is it's uh just being very easy to use, looking exceptionally good, that sort of thing. 'Cause we really don't have anything else there, do we? Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: I don't I don't see it, and to Mary Smith if I'm gonna market a product for b for beauty for for design I'm gonna I'm gonna try to market it at a much higher price. I need to make it special with a high price tag. I don't want to make it economically Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: uh g uh competitive. I want I want to market it as exclusive. So I would market this product it at eighty-nine Euros and come up with some really beautiful exterior design or something th but but I Bertha Thompson: But Mary Smith: don't Bertha Thompson: i if Mary Smith: think Bertha Thompson: design Mary Smith: we have that Bertha Thompson: if Mary Smith: flexibility. Bertha Thompson: design is cheap and functionality is basic, then twenty-five Euros is probably a high price for a commoner garden stan standard T_V_ so the place uh remote the then the place we're going to justify that cost is through through design through making it a a sleek elegant high-priced basic remote. Does that make sense, Mary Smith: No I Bertha Thompson: huh? Mary Smith: no I I understand Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: what you say, but what I'm what I'm, okay we probably need to move along, Bertha Thompson: Yeah Mary Smith: but Bertha Thompson: we probably Mary Smith: my Bertha Thompson: should. Mary Smith: my concern Bertha Thompson: We we're doing Mary Smith: is trying Bertha Thompson: alright for Mary Smith: to find Bertha Thompson: time. Mary Smith: a marketing niche for this product, and if I'm coming in with a with with twenty-five Euros, which is mid-market price, um then what am I going to give these people for this? Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Mary Smith: So that's just my question, but we can keep talking. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Sorry that kinda cut into you there. Andrea Parris: No just I I would I would advocate for continuing teletext and those would be the basic commands. Um as for, you know, the the case design uh maybe I'll come up with more concrete ideas. Right now it's just the idea of simplicity and slickness, cute Wilma Wyatt: Right. Andrea Parris: and small Wilma Wyatt: I'm Andrea Parris: um Wilma Wyatt: just thinking you know with all these universal remotes that are out there, how many people how many people actually use every feature that ar you know i like these trainable remotes and things like that, where, you know, it's just so confusing to do to use all these functions. Where I think the largest portion of the market is just gonna you know they lost their T_V_ remote, they need another one that'll work with their T_V_. They want something that looks nice, that that that isn't gonna break when they drop it, that you know that maybe it's it's ergonomic, it feels good in your hand, Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: something like that. I think that's gonna be where you're gonna find the biggest, you know, market share. Bertha Thompson: So we are looking for something that looks good and just works, rather than looking for any special features. Is that Wilma Wyatt: I think Andrea Parris: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: the more bells and whistles we add, it's just gonna cut into our into our profits. Wilma Wyatt: Maybe Andrea Parris: Yeah mm. Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: five percent, Bertha Thompson: But Wilma Wyatt: you know, Bertha Thompson: we can talk a Wilma Wyatt: and Bertha Thompson: little Wilma Wyatt: how much Bertha Thompson: bit more potentially in the marketing marketing Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: presentation about this. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah okay. Bertha Thompson: Be Wilma Wyatt: I'm Bertha Thompson: a Wilma Wyatt: sorry. Bertha Thompson: good idea. Uh sorry, I didn't mean to cut Mary Smith: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: Sorry boss. Bertha Thompson: in. I'm not the boss. Okay. Mary Smith: Oh P Pedro, I just want to say quickly I I would really like it when you can come up with some more bells and whistles, eh. You know sell uh things come to my mind is uh uh something that's uh um voice-activated. I know we're getting into some, I hope, some big money on this thing, Bertha Thompson: I think Mary Smith: but Bertha Thompson: that's probably a question more for Mary Smith: Is that for over Bertha Thompson: for Mary Smith: here? Bertha Thompson: this Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: guy here, yeah. Mary Smith: Okay, alright. Wilma Wyatt: Well it's kinda both of us. Us Bertha Thompson: Is Wilma Wyatt: us Bertha Thompson: it? Wilma Wyatt: user Mary Smith: That's Wilma Wyatt: interface. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: 'Cause uh Andrea Parris: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: and I think of voice-activated So some way Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: that I can I can find my remote by Wilma Wyatt: I was thinking about Mary Smith: clapping Wilma Wyatt: that. Mary Smith: my hands or something Wilma Wyatt: Then your lights Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: would go off, Mary Smith: uh Wilma Wyatt: though. Mary Smith: and and so so um But this 's just something. I'm trying to find some bells and whistles 'cause when they talk about tel taking out teletext, it's like, what are we gonna put in? What makes this thing attractive? And it's only for televisions. So we everyth our our competition out there has got these these multiple adaptors where they can use 'em for their V_C_R_s, their D_V_D_s, their their televisions and we're coming out with one remote for television only. And so to Mary Smith we have to Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: make this a really special product I I I don't s I really have to say I don't see the market niche for this product. At this price I don't see it yet. I'm I I go along with this, because this is what we're given to try to market, but I I don't see the market niche for this product Bertha Thompson: Hmm. Mary Smith: without without some really sort of something really special to identify it as as unique in the market. Andrea Parris: But we th that should be design. Mary Smith: Yeah. Andrea Parris: That should be the design basically. Wilma Wyatt: Right. Andrea Parris: I think technology we'd we we're not in the price range to do it. We don't have the money to do it towards t f technology so Mary Smith: Okay. Andrea Parris: we should we should aim Mary Smith: Have to Andrea Parris: at Mary Smith: do Andrea Parris: design. Mary Smith: you have to do it in the box? Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: Okay well, Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: so so that's up to you then to to make this box in something that's absolutely extraordinary. Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: Maybe make it in the form of a gun. We can sell it in United States. Bertha Thompson: I have a question uh for you. Does any of the um the features that Pedro's spoken about here have any implications we might not have thought about on in terms of just pure functionality? In terms of making Wilma Wyatt: I don't Bertha Thompson: it work or the cost of that or Wilma Wyatt: I think all these things are pretty standard. I think we'll be okay. Bertha Thompson: Okay. 'Kay. Cheers. Onto participant four. Mary Smith: Well you know for marketing f marketing for Mary Smith is uh and uh how do I go here? Okay. Wilma Wyatt: Mm you can just click. Mary Smith: Go go. Is Wilma Wyatt: No Mary Smith: that Wilma Wyatt: no Mary Smith: right? Wilma Wyatt: no you just get off that. You just click anywhere. Mary Smith: Ah-ha. Yeah, what for Mary Smith is it um I d I don't know what I'm marketing right now, okay, 'til you spoke and when I wrote this, I don't know what I'm marketing. I just know that I I was identified as a a we identified ourselves as a as a developer, as a manufacturer, and as a as a um distributor t to other wholesalers. And so the th the twenty-five Euros that we've identified as the sale price is a wholesale price Andrea Parris: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: rather than a retail price. That's what we decided here. Um so what I did is I I decided that that this this needs to be a product in a in a sense can market itself. So what we've identified here as our main marketing stratagem is is in design. We're making the most beautiful attractive uh whatever we decide it is. So that means we have about seven more minutes or ten minutes left. Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: Um so I would like to have a product that that we can sell easily. So I say inspiration, so having something beauty, something attractive, uh something that in a sense will sell itself. Andrea Parris: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: Uh innovation I think fits into what we're talking about here with design. Uh cutting edge technology, I don't think we're gonna have that, these were ideas I was putting together, um unless we come up with some New Age product a as far as the casing is concerned. I I wanna make this thing something that I can identify as special in some way, so maybe we can have some I I talked about environmentally sensitive, uh maybe we have a product that can be identified in some way as advantageous in a home. I don't know. These are just thoughts. Uh I wanted to talk about uh who we are as a as a corporation, that we're new, we're aggressive, we're competitive, we're we're trying to provide a product from a new perspective rather than from an old corporate line. So to Mary Smith it's about selling d uh our identity our corporate identity along with the product. Um what I found is that the projected costs are competitive. Andrea Parris: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: Uh we're kind of in the middle of the market, but what I'm seeing is that the market is ready for I I identified new technology, but again, because what I see is budget restrictions and limitations, I don't know that we can bring any new technology into this thing. If if we could have a technological something Wilma Wyatt: I have an Mary Smith: Mm Wilma Wyatt: idea. Mary Smith: p please. Wilma Wyatt: And it's kind of along the s lines of environmentally sensitive, and it may even fit into ergonomics, and even kind of address the issue of losing losing the remote, what we were saying it's a common Bertha Thompson: Mm. Wilma Wyatt: issue. Um what we can do is, well you know that batteries throwing a aw remotes run through batteries like crazy. Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: Right? And Mary Smith: Solar. Wilma Wyatt: s for some people Yeah. Well maybe not a solar remote Mary Smith: But solar Wilma Wyatt: but instead what about if we had like a power cradle? Like a a cradle that is is there to hold the remote when you're not using it, so you'll always know where the remote is 'cause you have to put it back there to charge the remote, and we can, instead of having instead of having, you know, replaceable batteries we'll just have a power cell that stays there for the life of the remote. You never have to get go through the go through uh all these different batteries. And also you can I I think it's a good opportunity for the user design or for not just for the user design, but also for the just for the look and feel of the remote as as a whole. You know you could have some kind of neat little, you know, a sexy design for d a cradle and the remote itself. Mary Smith: Blah, I like it. I like the idea, but we're talking about in cost is gonna probably double. Wilma Wyatt: It w it would increase the cost. Mary Smith: But boy, we can sell this thing, because there's no batteries, it's environmentally sensitive, i we can identify it as a safer product in some form. Wilma Wyatt: And you could page the remote if you lose it. Maybe there's a button on the cradle. Mary Smith: Yep, that's right. I really see Bertha Thompson: Now the Mary Smith: But the Bertha Thompson: the question Mary Smith: cost Bertha Thompson: is Mary Smith: i Bertha Thompson: can we make this for less than twelve-fifty per? Mary Smith: No no. No no, we have t we have to change the end cost. There's uh Bertha Thompson: We Mary Smith: I mean Bertha Thompson: we Mary Smith: I don't Bertha Thompson: well do Mary Smith: see Bertha Thompson: we Mary Smith: it Bertha Thompson: necessarily Mary Smith: anyway. Bertha Thompson: have to change the end cost because uh Can we dl can we do that without uh changing it twelve-fifty per product, if we basically can sell more based on this? Mary Smith: Yeah, that's gonna be up to these guys. I Wilma Wyatt: Well Mary Smith: my reaction is Wilma Wyatt: what Mary Smith: no, but Wilma Wyatt: I can do is I can d look into ho well Pedro and I can look into how much this might increase our our costs Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Wilma Wyatt: and you can look into what kind of effect an increased cost is gonna have on our on our final numbers. Bertha Thompson: Yeah we we can certainly push for a more expensive product Mary Smith: Well, see Bertha Thompson: if Mary Smith: I Bertha Thompson: that's Mary Smith: I Bertha Thompson: gonna Mary Smith: see Bertha Thompson: be Mary Smith: I I'm an advocate to make this an exclusive product. You know, let's let's sell this wholesale for for fifty Euros, sixty Euros. Let's make this thing really exclusive, environmentally sensitive, uh high-tech design, uh ergonomics, all of this. Just make this thing uh, yeah, the the the Rolls Royce of of remote controls. Wilma Wyatt: I I Mary Smith: Every home's got to have it. If you don't have one, hey what kind of remote do you have? Oh you've got one of those, oh fantastic, I want one of those too. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: I just don't have enough money right now. Wilma Wyatt: I just don't know about that, because in order to do that in order to price it at that kind of level I think we'd need to have every functionality that all the other competitors are offering like being able to operate, you know, the D_V_D_ player and, you know, the stereo system and all that. Which is a pretty basic function that w we've opted out of. And additionally we're m maybe not supporting teletext um Bertha Thompson: Nah, I think we can say with certainty now that we are supporting teletext. Wilma Wyatt: But I do think there are some basic features that we don't have that a lot of other remotes are going to have. Mary Smith: Yep, one one thing I don't understand is h they've they've given us this package, okay. Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: Now uh in my opinion we need to give them a package back, okay. They say they say okay here you go. They gave us a fundament a foundation of of what they want, Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: and Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: and w it's our place to kinda analyse and evaluate. I don't think it's our place to create their product for them, maybe it is. I don't know what kind of role we have in this in the corporate ladder uh, but to Mary Smith it's like, okay, you have got your here's our ideas, okay. Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: And then let them look at those ideas and they say, yeah well, we can we can raise the price twenty percent, you know we like this idea, this idea no, but to Mary Smith it's it's about a choice, do we follow their directives or do we make uh presentations back and and then and then discuss? beca I I do not I do not see the market niche for the product that they're handing f handing us Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: right now. I don't Wilma Wyatt: I don Mary Smith: see it. Wilma Wyatt: I I d I have to disagree though. I think our market niche is basically people who need who have lost their remote or uh who've broken their remote and don't wanna send back to the manufacturer, they just wanna run out to the store and get a remote, and then they're gonna look on the shelf and they're gonna see ours is the nicest looking remote. It does what they need. These aren't I I think that Bertha Thompson: And Wilma Wyatt: it Bertha Thompson: and th to get to back to another point, sorry uh uh for cutting in but, I th I think it's important to remember that that this remote has to work with multiple T_V_s, yeah, 'cause it's Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: selling on its own. It's not going to be specifically Mary Smith: Right. Bertha Thompson: for Hitachi Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: T_V_s or or Mary Smith: No I Bertha Thompson: whatever. Mary Smith: understand that. Bertha Thompson: So technologically, if I understand it, uh T_V_s T_V_ remote's working exactly the same way as video remotes and D_V_D_ remotes. All you need to do is train them to the individual one, all you need to do is is know the the f like some four-digit code. So Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: saying that it works with all T_V_s is equivalent to saying that it'll work with D_V_D_s Mary Smith: Nope, Bertha Thompson: and Mary Smith: they've identified Bertha Thompson: other things. Mary Smith: the product as not working for anything but televisions. Andrea Parris: Yeah Mary Smith: They've Andrea Parris: y Bertha Thompson: Oh okay Mary Smith: identified Andrea Parris: y Bertha Thompson: okay. Andrea Parris: you Bertha Thompson: We Andrea Parris: you Mary Smith: this Bertha Thompson: have Andrea Parris: wouldn't Mary Smith: product Bertha Thompson: done this. Mary Smith: limita That's why I say I Andrea Parris: The Mary Smith: don't Andrea Parris: interface Mary Smith: I Andrea Parris: will Mary Smith: don't Andrea Parris: be different. Mary Smith: see the market niche for this. If Bertha Thompson: I see. Mary Smith: we if w if we were going to have a product that worked for D_V_D_s, V_C_R_s and everything, then Bertha Thompson: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: I can see the market niche, but we we're only identified as going for televisions without teletext. And it's Wilma Wyatt: Right. Mary Smith: like whoa we ha in my opinion we have to go with something that's extremely exclusive Wilma Wyatt: Well here's Mary Smith: to make this thing marketable, Bertha Thompson: And I Mary Smith: because Bertha Thompson: I'd Mary Smith: who wants just Bertha Thompson: Mm sorry. Mary Smith: a television Wilma Wyatt: Right. Mary Smith: remote? I Wilma Wyatt: We Mary Smith: don't. Wilma Wyatt: he well here's my thing about that. If you're in the market for this ultimate remote, you're not gonna go for just a television remote. If it can't Mary Smith: That's right. Wilma Wyatt: control if it can't control your your D_V_D_ player and a al if y if you can't get that all-in-one ultimate remote, that just you can throw all your other remotes away. I'm not gonna buy a d seventy-five Euro remote. Mary Smith: I I I have a tendency to agree with you. I really do. Bertha Thompson: So Mary Smith: That's Bertha Thompson: we Mary Smith: why Bertha Thompson: really Mary Smith: I say Bertha Thompson: can't Mary Smith: I quest Bertha Thompson: chase Mary Smith: I q Bertha Thompson: that. Mary Smith: I question the marketability of the product. I really question Wilma Wyatt: So I think Mary Smith: where Wilma Wyatt: what we Mary Smith: we create the demand. Wilma Wyatt: So Bertha Thompson: We're Wilma Wyatt: that's Bertha Thompson: really Wilma Wyatt: what Bertha Thompson: looking Wilma Wyatt: I'm saying Bertha Thompson: for something basic. The the one thing that that that you said really struck a chord with Mary Smith here in that we're we're carrying the corporate identity with the product, but we're actually looking for a large profit at the same time where I'd be inclined to go back to upper-level management and say like let's just cut down our profit expected on this product because we are actually branding our company here. We're selling more than just the product. We're trying to get mind-share about uh Real Reaction to to the people who are gonna buy consumer electronics. We want people to eventually say, oh that's that's Real Reaction that's a good m make. It's reliable. And and we're gonna make it we're gonna win mind-share by uh either being a fantastic product or for it working, it just being good, reasonable-priced, and solid. So if we can make if we can put an emphasis here on it not breaking I Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: think that's in itself an Wilma Wyatt: I Bertha Thompson: extremely Wilma Wyatt: think that's big. Mary Smith: W okay if Bertha Thompson: big Mary Smith: you Bertha Thompson: thing. Mary Smith: if you drop the cost, now if you make if you make go to the other side of the cost scale, and you make it less expensive, then all of a sudden now we're going into an a a new market area. So we can say low-cost uh uh um Andrea Parris: Good Mary Smith: uh Andrea Parris: design. Mary Smith: good design, beautiful, Bertha Thompson: We only have a few minutes Mary Smith: wa-da-da-da-da-da. Bertha Thompson: left. Mary Smith: But what I'm saying is right now we're middle market. Bertha Thompson: Is twenty-five Euros a mid-market price for a remote? Mary Smith: Yeah for Bertha Thompson: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: I think Mary Smith: for Wilma Wyatt: so, Mary Smith: multi Wilma Wyatt: yeah. Mary Smith: for a multi-function remote, that's a mid-market price. In a discount right now you can buy 'em on sale sometimes for about about uh eighteen, nineteen Euro, and that's for Bertha Thompson: Okay. Mary Smith: the multi-functions, uh D_V_D_, V_C_R_, uh catch-alls. And and they have 'em in a little box in the middle, and and this is the consciousness that most people have about replacement remote controls. So to Mary Smith, to market this a t only a television remote control we have to change consciousness. We have to have something that will change people's thinking to identify this as advantageous, and I don't know what that is. It's gotta be low-cost or high-cost with with special design features. Bertha Thompson: Well I'd be inclined to say, if we can make the design better than any comparable remote while reducing the cost, then that's the way we really should play it. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: If we can take it down to you know fifteen rather than twenty-five and make a low profit-margin on it, but we're really doing that to sell the brand. Yep we have five minutes left. Uh rather Mary Smith: Or my d Bertha Thompson: th uh to to to sell for Real Reactions. And I can communicate this to to the more senior uh mm people within the company here to to get a reaction. Wilma Wyatt: What about um the idea that I had with the cradle? How do you feel about that? Or how does Bertha Thompson: Well Wilma Wyatt: everybody Bertha Thompson: how does Wilma Wyatt: feel? Bertha Thompson: everybody feel? I Mary Smith: I mean I Bertha Thompson: I think Mary Smith: I well we g we're talking about the other end now. I like it. I like Wilma Wyatt: No, Mary Smith: the Wilma Wyatt: but Mary Smith: idea, Wilma Wyatt: I that's the Mary Smith: but Wilma Wyatt: thing Mary Smith: we have Wilma Wyatt: I Mary Smith: t Wilma Wyatt: I Mary Smith: we Wilma Wyatt: don't Mary Smith: have Wilma Wyatt: think Mary Smith: to find Wilma Wyatt: it's necessarily Mary Smith: out Wilma Wyatt: the other end. Bertha Thompson: The other the o the problem with that in my mind I just think off-hand as a as a consumer, would I wanna buy that? And I think maybe not because I've got a remote and I'll take it to different chairs, I'll take Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: it to different I w I don't wanna go over somewhere and put it down. It Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: i if it is gonna be somewhere that you put it down then it needs to be at the side of your armchair, and that implies that there's only one T_V_ user. So it's very good for some people but Wilma Wyatt: Well Bertha Thompson: it's Wilma Wyatt: it lasts Bertha Thompson: not a like Wilma Wyatt: it would last for several hours on its own power, but when you're done with it you put it back in the cradle. Bertha Thompson: But it it takes away the ease of use of the remote to a Wilma Wyatt: Yeah Bertha Thompson: certain extent. Wilma Wyatt: well it Bertha Thompson: You have to l sort of remember. You Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: have to d shift down the side of the couch to find it and put it back and Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: Yeah. I d Mary Smith: Well. Bertha Thompson: I d I d I think it it in my mind it doesn't seem like something that oh I'd really want uh because Mary Smith: Mm. Bertha Thompson: of that fact. But I I don't know, that's just my opinion. Mary Smith: Well, I think again it's it we have a cost issue here. You know if we're gonna go in this direction, to Mary Smith we're going to the other side of the cost range. Are we Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: gonna make this selling selling the cost as a high high-tech uh um environmentally sensitive whatever, or are we gonna go to the lower side of the range? Again I don't see our market niche in the middle for our product yet. I don't Bertha Thompson: 'Kay. Mary Smith: see it yet. Bertha Thompson: So what do we think maybe we should Pedro, do you have any opinion on it? Andrea Parris: Uh we should keep it simple, mm medium-low cost mar um cost area and uh make it look good. Mary Smith: W a question I have in in a 'cause I I I think I agree with you on, we gotta make it a box. The box is gonna sell it I think, Bertha Thompson: Really Mary Smith: the outside, Bertha Thompson: need to wrap Mary Smith: the casing. Bertha Thompson: up now. Mary Smith: Can can can we have multiple designs? Have a modern, have a traditional, have a you know, and so so instead of them all looking the same, people can have maybe four or five different designs they can choose from. I don't know what that creates cost, or Wilma Wyatt: Well the the problem with that is we may end up with a whole bunch of inventory of a Mary Smith: Yep one Wilma Wyatt: of Mary Smith: over Wilma Wyatt: a poor Mary Smith: another. Wilma Wyatt: design Mary Smith: Yeah, okay, Wilma Wyatt: you know. Mary Smith: I hear Wilma Wyatt: So Mary Smith: that. Andrea Parris: Yeah, complicated but Wilma Wyatt: Um but what we could do is some kind of well I mean Yeah we we need to, I mean, have a few designs to look at and then come up with something that I think we all agree is, you know, the best fit. I think w what's really important is it has to look good, it has to feel it has to feel good in your hand, Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: it has to be durable, it has to a and I think it's really important that it doesn't look cheap. I Andrea Parris: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: think I think we have to make sure people look at it an and feel like it its like a quality remote. Even Mary Smith: What ab Wilma Wyatt: though the cost Mary Smith: what ab Wilma Wyatt: may be low. Mary Smith: what about a a remote that's that doesn't maybe look like a remote? Just an idea. Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: Just just okay 'cause I mean we all know what a remote looks like on the outside. They're selling these things everywhere. Maybe that could be part of our design exclusivity, is we make a remote that doesn't even look like a remote it it opens like a telephone. Wilma Wyatt: Or what if it looks like a pen? Mary Smith: Doesn't matter, yeah. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: I'm just jus I talking about some Wilma Wyatt: A pointer? Mary Smith: something to make this thing unique. It That's the thing, I'm gonna keep thumping on. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: I'll sell whatever Bertha Thompson: Mm. Mary Smith: you guys design. Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Mary Smith: I don't have a problem selling a product, that's not the issue. I give you ideas, you guys create the product. Once you have the finished product I'll find a way to sell it. Don't worry about it. I just give you these things now, because these are my thoughts and feelings. Andrea Parris: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: So just to touch on m my point one last time that I had brought up. Um I really un unless you guys are die-hard against the fact that um it's possible like it reduces the usability of the remote b and the fact that you can't lose it on your own, I think it still might be a good idea to investigate having like Bertha Thompson: Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: a power cradle. Andrea Parris: Okay. Yeah. Wilma Wyatt: Because I really think i in a certain sense it almost like for Mary Smith I would want to have that just, because I know at the end of when I'm done watching T_V_ that when I'm done, oh I better go find the remote and put it back where it belongs. Maybe th th th that's just some people that like that. Bertha Thompson: I mean Wilma Wyatt: A lot Mary Smith: No Bertha Thompson: there's Wilma Wyatt: of Bertha Thompson: al Wilma Wyatt: people Mary Smith: no. Bertha Thompson: there's also remote controls I remember that that worked uh, this hasn't been done in a while I think, but th as a as a watch. Wilma Wyatt: As a watch? Bertha Thompson: Yeah, there Wilma Wyatt: Mm Bertha Thompson: is remote Wilma Wyatt: 'kay. Bertha Thompson: control watches um, but I think they're a sorta eighties thing, so it might not be easy to market in it Andrea Parris: Yeah Bertha Thompson: uh but the the technologies Andrea Parris: they are not simple. Bertha Thompson: came along and it might be cheaper to make now. Those things may have been inexpensive for all I know. Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: One thing I just thought about when you were saying that, is that the p our target market is gonna be someone who has lost or broken Wilma Wyatt: That's Mary Smith: We Wilma Wyatt: what Mary Smith: gotta stop? Wilma Wyatt: I was saying. Mary Smith: Who's lost Bertha Thompson: Gotta cut Mary Smith: or broken Bertha Thompson: up. Mary Smith: their their remote. So how many remotes do they wanna buy? Can we p can we sell them a remote that can maybe guarantee they will not Wilma Wyatt: Exactly. Mary Smith: need to buy another one? Bertha Thompson: Mm. Andrea Parris: Yeah. Mary Smith: And so with with with this kind of system Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: or locator or something, to to think about, how have people been been losing or breaking Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Mary Smith: their remote? How does this happen? Bertha Thompson: The Wilma Wyatt: And Bertha Thompson: last Wilma Wyatt: also Bertha Thompson: remote Wilma Wyatt: presumably Bertha Thompson: you'll ever buy. Wilma Wyatt: they've Mary Smith: And and then and then design the product, maybe some component of the product that can identify this as the last one you'll ever need to Bertha Thompson: Well Mary Smith: buy. Wilma Wyatt: Exactly. Bertha Thompson: if if we're going down that then we can we don't need to go the it it strikes Mary Smith that the locator feature might actually be Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: uh quite expensive to make. Whereas actually just putting it in a power cradle might not be too expensive at Wilma Wyatt: True. Bertha Thompson: all because that's just done with mobile Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: phones you can just n we Wilma Wyatt: Yeah. Bertha Thompson: we have Wilma Wyatt: The locator'll Bertha Thompson: said we have Wilma Wyatt: definitely Bertha Thompson: actually similar Wilma Wyatt: be more Bertha Thompson: products Wilma Wyatt: expensive. Bertha Thompson: that we can take from and potentially cut costs there. Wilma Wyatt: Mm-hmm. Bertha Thompson: Um need to look into whether we can do that but uh I think we we have some m mobile phone-based products uh checking quickly our Internet. We really need to finish up here. Mary Smith: uh Bertha Thompson: But uh Mary Smith: we can make it in the shape of a coffee pot. Bertha Thompson: Yeah we have the the power-adaptor products. We sell power-adaptor products. So for example Mary Smith: It's Bertha Thompson: there's Mary Smith: uh just Bertha Thompson: nothing Mary Smith: it's Bertha Thompson: stopping Mary Smith: that Bertha Thompson: us Mary Smith: I think it's telling us to stop Bertha Thompson: using Mary Smith: our Bertha Thompson: that Mary Smith: meeting. Bertha Thompson: technology. Yeah. Mary Smith: So we have the c we probably have have on-line in our in our system, we have the ability to create this, we're talking about. Bertha Thompson: Yeah I Mary Smith: A charging Bertha Thompson: think so, Mary Smith: system. Bertha Thompson: without it being too In fact we can cut costs through using the manufacturing that's already gonna be in place Wilma Wyatt: Right. Bertha Thompson: here. Mary Smith: If if we can create this we have probably five or six or seven really strong marketing characteristics. Wilma Wyatt: Right. I think one Bertha Thompson: Okay. Wilma Wyatt: of the things that we can put right on the box is, never buy another battery. Bertha Thompson: Yep. Wilma Wyatt: You know, something like that. Bertha Thompson: 'Kay. Thanks guys. Andrea Parris: Yep. Mary Smith: No that's not what I want, I want Oh look it here.	Bertha Thompson reviewed new requirements for the project with the group and discussed their implementation. Andrea Parris presented the basic components of a remote control device and how they work together. He showed that the size of the chip they will use is dependent on how many complicated functions are included. Wilma Wyatt stressed that the project should focus on a simple design for the device. The group discussed not being able to include a teletext component, and that the product design would have to be the main selling point of the device. Mary Smith discussed his marketing strategy for the project, again stressing the attractiveness of the product design. Andrea Parris proposed including a battery charging stand with the device but it was decided that it was not a useful feature. The group continued to discuss the marketing strategy for the device as it would not include many advanced technological functions; they discussed including a guarantee for the remote and using a unique form factor.	4	amisum	train
Kimberly Cardenas: Afternoon guys. It's gonna be. Jill Mcginnis: Rock and roll. Kimberly Cardenas: Oh. 'Kay. Jill Mcginnis: So do we need to re-train Mike on how to put his mic on? Sara Le: Think Kimberly Cardenas: We may Jill Mcginnis: Okay, Sara Le: s Kimberly Cardenas: do. Jill Mcginnis: can he get it all by himself this time? Kimberly Cardenas: I dunno, Sara Le: Mm. Kimberly Cardenas: I'm feeling like a Sara Le: Pro Kimberly Cardenas: big boy. Sara Le: Probably not, been Jill Mcginnis: So Sara Le: listening too much. He's Jill Mcginnis: I believe Sara Le: getting Jill Mcginnis: I Sara Le: retarded. Jill Mcginnis: can fly. Judie Hoffman: Alright Sara Le: Yay. Judie Hoffman: well we got some exciting stuff for you guys. Sara Le: Or not. Judie Hoffman: Or not. Sara Le: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: Just what I needed was something exciting. Remember, I'm an old man. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay, ready to go? Judie Hoffman: All ready. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay so Sara Le: Apparently Kimberly Cardenas: we've Sara Le: I'm Kimberly Cardenas: got Sara Le: old as Kimberly Cardenas: our Sara Le: well. Kimberly Cardenas: conceptual design meeting. Hopefully we've Jill Mcginnis: Thirty's Kimberly Cardenas: all got exciting Jill Mcginnis: really young, Kimberly Cardenas: ideas Jill Mcginnis: eh? Kimberly Cardenas: now. Judie Hoffman: We do. Kimberly Cardenas: Uh k exciting ideas. 'Kay so here's our agenda our agenda. Um I'm gonna open. I'm gonna talk for a bit about what we're gonna do. I'm gonna take some notes. We're gonna all do a presentation, then we're gonna make some decisions now. Yep. Judie Hoffman: Alright. Kimberly Cardenas: Well when I say hopefully, we have to. So I'm gonna let you guys talk before we make decisions. And does anyone really want to go first? Judie Hoffman: I guess I'll go first. Kimberly Cardenas: You p two? Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: What's Judie Hoffman: Component, I think. Kimberly Cardenas: Components Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: design. Judie Hoffman: Yep that's it. Sara Le: Presented by name. Judie Hoffman: My name is. Jill Mcginnis: Jose he Kimberly Cardenas: Your Jill Mcginnis: man Kimberly Cardenas: name Jill Mcginnis: is. Kimberly Cardenas: is name? Judie Hoffman: My name is name. Kimberly Cardenas: Huh hi Sara Le: My Kimberly Cardenas: name. Sara Le: name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Judie Hoffman: Sorry Sara Le: Prepare Judie Hoffman: I did this Sara Le: to Judie Hoffman: in a bit of a rush. Jill Mcginnis: N name. Judie Hoffman: So Kimberly Cardenas: Right. Sara Le: die. Judie Hoffman: so here's a look inside your really old-looking remote control. Um you've got a printed a printed uh circuit board here, and you've got all these buttons which kinda press little rubber nubbies little holes that Kimberly Cardenas: We've all Judie Hoffman: activate Kimberly Cardenas: broke a remote control ri um s Judie Hoffman: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: yeah. Jill Mcginnis: I've Judie Hoffman: we've all broken a remote control. So you've also got um you've got your chip here, your batteries here, and some sorta electronics. Um Jill Mcginnis: I just love you tech guys, huh. They just Sara Le: Yeah there's a thingy and Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Sara Le: a dingy Judie Hoffman: Well Jill Mcginnis: y Sara Le: and Jill Mcginnis: do jabber. Kimberly Cardenas: You press Judie Hoffman: so Kimberly Cardenas: this and Judie Hoffman: you've Kimberly Cardenas: it does Judie Hoffman: got Kimberly Cardenas: th Judie Hoffman: here's here's a transistor, and this amplifies your signal, um you've got the L_E_D_ here on the end of the uh uh on the end of the printed circuit board. Um you've got a couple diodes here for I don't know who and whatnot. Kimberly Cardenas: I dunno Judie Hoffman: So Kimberly Cardenas: who and whatnot. Judie Hoffman: exactly. Sara Le: Nah. Judie Hoffman: So um we've got a i in this in this uh drawing Jill Mcginnis: P Judie Hoffman: he uh in this example here, this is a eighteen pin um uh chip Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Judie Hoffman: I dunno. Uh it's two double A_ batteries. This is pretty standard remote. So here are options for our power sources. You can use a basic battery, which we've already discussed, um th our tech department also said we have the option of doing some kind of hand dynamo where maybe you crank it or something like that. I Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. Judie Hoffman: don't know if that's really Sara Le: I wanna change that. Judie Hoffman: I don't know we got some qu crazy guys down there in that department so Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Jill Mcginnis: I gotta gotta flashlight, and uh Judie Hoffman: You shake it. Jill Mcginnis: yeah but it's interesting 'cause you shake it like this. Like this. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. So that's the next bullet is the Jill Mcginnis: And Judie Hoffman: um Jill Mcginnis: that's on the camera. Judie Hoffman: the kinetic provision of energy, so it's like that flashlight where you have to shake it. Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. Judie Hoffman: Uh we've got solar cells, which I don't think is a very good idea because um you could not use your remote at night which doesn't make a lot of sense. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm 'kay. Judie Hoffman: And finally we've got our cradle o our power cradle idea. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay so we basically have battery versus cradle Judie Hoffman: M Kimberly Cardenas: here? Judie Hoffman: battery versus cradle I think Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: is yeah. Sara Le: I like the kinetic. Kimberly Cardenas: So Jill Mcginnis: I Kimberly Cardenas: we have Jill Mcginnis: g I Kimberly Cardenas: battery Jill Mcginnis: I figured Kimberly Cardenas: versus Judie Hoffman: It Jill Mcginnis: you Judie Hoffman: could Kimberly Cardenas: cradle Judie Hoffman: be Jill Mcginnis: would. Judie Hoffman: fun. Jill Mcginnis: Yes. Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: It's actually a novel thing because you could sell it a as a novelty, just to be actually serious Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: for a minute here, you Judie Hoffman: Well Kimberly Cardenas: could Judie Hoffman: it is it is more uh I mean it is more eco-friendly than the than the cradle 'cause you're still using Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Judie Hoffman: power off the grid with the cradle. So Kimberly Cardenas: Hmm. Judie Hoffman: um our case design. We have uh choices in materials and choices in the general shapes that we can do. Our material choices are a plastic latex um ty or plastic, a rubber latex type thing, uh wood, or titanium. If we go with titanium we're gonna be uh limited in the amount of shapes we can do because it's tough to shape the titanium, and uh Yeah pers Kimberly Cardenas: Wood wood would ge would give us a little bit of a marketing niche, wouldn't it. Judie Hoffman: I think wood i Kimberly Cardenas: Nah. Judie Hoffman: I I can't see anybody Jill Mcginnis: It it Judie Hoffman: wanting Jill Mcginnis: it Judie Hoffman: to use a wooden remote, it's Jill Mcginnis: Uh. Judie Hoffman: just Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: anti-technology really, you know. Kimberly Cardenas: Hmm. Jill Mcginnis: Uh uh to Jill Mcginnis in a marketing sense it's not it's not relative. We can we can o we can uh accentuate whatever whatever product you put in there we can find Judie Hoffman: Right. Jill Mcginnis: a way to accentuate Judie Hoffman: And what Jill Mcginnis: it. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: we may be able to do, and I think this might be the best option is to combine some a couple of these. Um my recommendation personally would be to do some kind of a plastic inner shell with a like a rubber outer shell, to make it um to mak uh like a thick plastic inner shell and a t um kind of a to have that rubber outer shell to make it more durable, and also maybe i I think it feels a little better than the plastic. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. Do you get a good grip on the rubber? Judie Hoffman: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah okay. Jill Mcginnis: And Judie Hoffman: um Jill Mcginnis: if you make it from that super rubber, when you drop it on the floor it can bounce right back up in your hand. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: You don't even need to lean down to get it. Judie Hoffman: The advantages of working with plastic and rubber is w we we'll have a lot more um options just in terms of shape because you can extrude plastic in basically any shape you want. So um and then we can cover you know the breakable bits with rubber yeah so um Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: But basically these are curved and double-curved I I believe that the tech department, in their um in their message to Jill Mcginnis, that they were referring to the number of th curves in the bottom. I have no idea exactly what they're talking about, but that's Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: what they told Jill Mcginnis, uncurved, flat, curved, or double-curved. I would guess this like this pen would be kinda like a double-curved, where it's curved on m m multiple axes, right? I think curved means just curved in one axis and double-curved is curved in two axes Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: or surfaces. I Kimberly Cardenas: I Judie Hoffman: have Kimberly Cardenas: think Judie Hoffman: no Kimberly Cardenas: it Judie Hoffman: idea. Kimberly Cardenas: might mean something like that sorta shape because a double curve rather Jill Mcginnis: Mm-hmm Kimberly Cardenas: than Jill Mcginnis: yeah Kimberly Cardenas: a Judie Hoffman: Oh Jill Mcginnis: that's Judie Hoffman: okay Kimberly Cardenas: yeah that's Jill Mcginnis: yeah Judie Hoffman: oh Jill Mcginnis: that's Judie Hoffman: like Jill Mcginnis: what Judie Hoffman: a Jill Mcginnis: I Judie Hoffman: wave, Jill Mcginnis: see. Kimberly Cardenas: what. Judie Hoffman: okay. Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Judie Hoffman: Alright Jill Mcginnis: that's what I see Judie Hoffman: that Jill Mcginnis: also. Judie Hoffman: makes sense okay. Um okay, with the interface we have the following options, we can u we can use push buttons, we can use a scroll wheel with an integrated push button, and Jill Mcginnis: Ooh. Judie Hoffman: L_C_D_ display, or multiple scrolling wheels. Um so these are all options that the user interface guy can uh has at his disposal to put together a user interface. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: For electronics, we have these very technical um descriptions here. A simple chip, which is the least expensive, but I have no numbers to give you, a regular chip, which is like the medium porridge the medium Kimberly Cardenas: D do we have actually Judie Hoffman: expense Kimberly Cardenas: any Judie Hoffman: uh Kimberly Cardenas: concept of what the difference is between a simple chip and an advanced chip? Judie Hoffman: Yes the difference is, with a simple chip a simple chip will operate oh why doesn't this scroll up? Previous previous, okay. Um Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: an advanced chip is required to to operate um the L_C_D_ display, and it didn't say specifically, but I I have a hunch that a regular chip is gonna be the scroll wheel and the multiple scroll wheels. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: So but yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah that makes sense. Judie Hoffman: That's the Kimberly Cardenas: So Judie Hoffman: end of my presentation. Kimberly Cardenas: presentation from I guess design would go best. Next. Kimberly Cardenas: Technical functions or interface concept? Judie Hoffman: I think Sara Le: Oh interface concept. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah that's it. Yes, but it has your name on it. Sara Le: Well that doesn't bo bode well for it for it tats as well. Um so, somehow that thing's too big, but um okay um our uh manufacturing division wanted the speech recognition. They say they could put it to work but um we don't think so. Judie Hoffman: No. Sara Le: No. It it it you'll be you know be affected by Judie Hoffman: If Sara Le: the by Judie Hoffman: the Sara Le: the other Judie Hoffman: T_V_ Sara Le: speech Judie Hoffman: is working, Sara Le: and Judie Hoffman: yeah. That's just I mean it'll if somebody says up in the middle of a television show, it's gonna change the channel. Sara Le: Yeah and and fighting Judie Hoffman: So Sara Le: for the remote would not be fun anymore, and I think that's one of the things we Kimberly Cardenas: But Sara Le: wanna Kimberly Cardenas: what if Sara Le: keep. Kimberly Cardenas: you actually had to press a button to make it recognize? So if you pressed it and went, up? Sara Le: That kinda would Judie Hoffman: Well then why don't Sara Le: r Judie Hoffman: you just press the up Sara Le: d Judie Hoffman: button? Sara Le: yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: Man yeah. Sara Le: That would kind of lose Kimberly Cardenas: But if it's just Sara Le: it. Kimberly Cardenas: one thing with a button that you can just go Jill Mcginnis: That's right. Judie Hoffman: Even Kimberly Cardenas: Up. Judie Hoffman: still there's gonna be interf th there's there still will be interference from the T_V_. It Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah, okay. Judie Hoffman: might not be it might not be completely confusing, but I think you'll still y it's still I don't think it's practical at all. I think it's a bad idea frankly. Sara Le: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Sara Le: so um taking that away, our uh Kimberly Cardenas: You guys know your stuff. Sara Le: the the the rubber but rubber buttons are the more reliable it's the the ones that would al would allow us to to market our product as being you know less prone to damage and more resistant to things like spillage of liquids over it or you know mistreat misuses as it happens to remote controls. Um as for the point that we making about losing it. Well, we wanna small r remote control one side because uh we want it to be cool and uh designed, but um apparently um market shows that bigger s bigger um remotes get less lost, Judie Hoffman: That I Sara Le: about Judie Hoffman: would believe. Jill Mcginnis: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Sara Le: But um yeah I think we we need to compromise between those two and somehow we'll do that. Somehow. Um so the the what I would propose is something more or less in the uh direction of what is to yo the right of that slide uh but without with a l a less complicated um design, so the numbers, the volume control, and channel control, and teletext access. Uh the volume and channel control can just become those the the four button array as in if it was a round dial. Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Sara Le: And um if you just think about it as the one to the right but with the numbers and the four buttons plus maybe a centre one with teletext. Kimberly Cardenas: So we're suggesting doing a sorta scroll wheel thing for the volume? Sara Le: Ye no it's Judie Hoffman: That's Sara Le: not Judie Hoffman: not Sara Le: i Judie Hoffman: a Sara Le: i Judie Hoffman: scroll wheel. Sara Le: it's just Kimberly Cardenas: Nah. Sara Le: four buttons that are on a cross, Kimberly Cardenas: Oh okay Sara Le: so Kimberly Cardenas: okay. Sara Le: that you Kimberly Cardenas: I Sara Le: ba Kimberly Cardenas: see. Sara Le: basically can control all of the Judie Hoffman: Right. Sara Le: important tasks from that alone. Judie Hoffman: Instead of Kimberly Cardenas: Uh, Judie Hoffman: play, Kimberly Cardenas: okay. Judie Hoffman: stop, rewind, and fast forward there, that's up, down, louder, and quieter. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Sara Le: Yeah um yeah so I think we w we go for something mid-sized, so something looks good and uh is not too prone to get lost. That be it. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. So on to Kimberly Cardenas: Y functional requirements or trend watching? Jill Mcginnis: I dunno. Judie Hoffman: Trend watching Jill Mcginnis: Trend Judie Hoffman: has Jill Mcginnis: watching Judie Hoffman: a later Jill Mcginnis: I guess. Judie Hoffman: date there. Jill Mcginnis: Trend watching I believe. Kimberly Cardenas: forty six nineteen fifty seven. Jill Mcginnis: See Kimberly Cardenas: Yep. Jill Mcginnis: what it looks like. It's been so long. Well I don't know what to say. When I s when I see the when I see the product I I I I don't wanna buy it. I see so many of 'em out there. There's nothing about that product that makes Jill Mcginnis wanna choose that product over other products that are out there. Judie Hoffman: Are you talking about the picture? Jill Mcginnis: Yeah yeah. Judie Hoffman: That's not our that's not our b design, that's just Jill Mcginnis: Okay. Judie Hoffman: a that's just something he a a graphic he used to show you the layout Jill Mcginnis: Okay. Judie Hoffman: of what the layout of the buttons might be like. Jill Mcginnis: Okay 'cause 'cause right now I don't have too much to say about how to market this product because we don't have a product to market yet. And Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Jill Mcginnis: uh from from talking to Mike is that we have we have uh we can market a more expensive product now. That's what I understand Kimberly Cardenas: Upper Jill Mcginnis: so, Kimberly Cardenas: management said yes. Jill Mcginnis: hello. Kimberly Cardenas: Uh e excuse that, that's a bit of spam. Jill Mcginnis: And and so yeah I'm a I'm a little bit stuck right now in that what uh w what is it that I'm gonna market? Uh without special or increased marketable features I don't believe the product has a consumer demand. Uh I like the idea of of the scroll makin there are so many people making these products at this price right now. What are we gonna do to make this one special and unique? Judie Hoffman: What's special and unique about a scroll? Jill Mcginnis: Uh well I don't Kimberly Cardenas: It's cool. Jill Mcginnis: yeah it's I I just see it as different. I don't say it's specially mm I don't say it's special. Uh I say that it's different I what I'm looking for as marketing is m give Jill Mcginnis something different. I give Jill Mcginnis a lower price, give Jill Mcginnis a higher price, give Jill Mcginnis some new technology, don't give Jill Mcginnis the same thing that everybody else is putting out there on the shelf it's f at the same price. I need something to market about this thing. We're we're a new Kimberly Cardenas: I'd Jill Mcginnis: firm. Kimberly Cardenas: I'd say though that we if we did make the decision to go with the cradle though, Jill Mcginnis: What Kimberly Cardenas: the then we Jill Mcginnis: i Kimberly Cardenas: have that Jill Mcginnis: if Kimberly Cardenas: as Jill Mcginnis: when Kimberly Cardenas: well, but Jill Mcginnis: when we Kimberly Cardenas: wi with Jill Mcginnis: have Kimberly Cardenas: a similar Jill Mcginnis: yeah when we when we have something like the cradle or or something give that's as as a marketing standard I need something to market, to make Judie Hoffman: Well Jill Mcginnis: this product unique. Judie Hoffman: right I think the two big th points that we have so far are the having the cradle and also having uh the um the actual design of the uh case itself having like this like rubber shell maybe with a plastic Jill Mcginnis: Yep. Judie Hoffman: interior, having it look really nice um and also be really durable. Jill Mcginnis: Mm 'kay. Just remember when I made up this report I didn't have the information that we're discussing here. Judie Hoffman: Right Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Judie Hoffman: yeah. Jill Mcginnis: And Kimberly Cardenas: Course. Jill Mcginnis: and Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: so so uh yeah when we have a cradle, when we have some kind of design, so what I'm saying is, from my perspective, I don't have a product to market right now. Um uh my personal preference is that we make some adjustment in the cost, either lower or develop an integrated new technol technology. That's that is the next step, there's technology and then there is technology, Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah Jill Mcginnis: which Kimberly Cardenas: 'cause Jill Mcginnis: we're Kimberly Cardenas: that's. Jill Mcginnis: moving into the next phase. And so uh we're gonna have some new technology to enhance the marketability. Yeah uh again I'm not sold on the product because we don't have a product in my opinion Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Jill Mcginnis: yet. So Kimberly Cardenas: Mm 'kay. Jill Mcginnis: I Judie Hoffman: Well Jill Mcginnis: need Judie Hoffman: let's Jill Mcginnis: a product. Judie Hoffman: get a product then. Jill Mcginnis: I need a product to market. And I just whatever product you guys put together, we'll find a way to market it. Tha that I'm not concerned with. Kimberly Cardenas: So now Jill Mcginnis: If you if you give Jill Mcginnis if you give Jill Mcginnis a cut-out of what everybody else has then I need to I need to find a lower cost. Kimberly Cardenas: So our big questions here really are cradle or not cradle? Do we go basic or do we go for features? Uh d does anyone really wanna do anything with the scroll wheel or should we ditch that Judie Hoffman: Well my question Kimberly Cardenas: off-hand Judie Hoffman: is what Kimberly Cardenas: first? Judie Hoffman: would the scroll wheel do? Function-wise, what does that do that Kimberly Cardenas: Oh but that was in your presentation so wh what would you imagine Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: it doing? Jill Mcginnis: wh wh what's the wh Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Well it's it's just another way to do the exact same thing that the buttons do. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm 'kay. Jill Mcginnis: Okay now Sara Le: But Jill Mcginnis: what Sara Le: would Jill Mcginnis: I see Sara Le: we Jill Mcginnis: with the scroll wheel is everybody has buttons. So from a marketing standpoint I have I have another door to walk through when we have something that's unique. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: If it creates something more complex or more expensive, then I don't know if that makes it uh a marketing necessity. But again, from a marketing perspective I want as much new and different about this thing as possible because we're we're co it's a very competitive market. Kimberly Cardenas: What I understand about scroll wheels is they're they're quite expensive to Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: to make. Judie Hoffman: Th Kimberly Cardenas: So I d Judie Hoffman: they are gonna be more expensive, but on the other hand, I mean, it I mean it is an alternative if if you think that's gonna sell some some uh you know if if we're gonna make up the extra cost by extra sales I think maybe it's worth it to do it, but I mean I would just use if I was gonna do this I would just use the scroll wheel for s channels up and channels down. I don't think volume or do you think volume would be Sara Le: I dunno. I'll bet first in volume maybe. I dunno. Judie Hoffman: No we can we can do multiple scroll wheels but Kimberly Cardenas: Well I d I like the idea of basically focusing the my personal preference is focusing the p the product on the idea of the uh the case the the uh dock to put it in to to charge it. We can target like environmentally friendly ideas, that Jill Mcginnis: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: sorta things. It s i m makes it easy Jill Mcginnis: Yeah yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: to market, it's Jill Mcginnis: I Kimberly Cardenas: easy Jill Mcginnis: think Kimberly Cardenas: to differentiate Jill Mcginnis: it's Kimberly Cardenas: the product, Jill Mcginnis: that's right. Kimberly Cardenas: yeah so. Jill Mcginnis: I think so. Kimberly Cardenas: And if we we keep the rest in a format that is durable because th th the whole product's gonna need to be more durable th thus Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: because you're not going to be ditching it as often. It's gonna need to be more expensive because of the cradle. Jill Mcginnis: Mm. Kimberly Cardenas: So if we can market it in terms of Jill Mcginnis: Yep. Kimberly Cardenas: that and yeah Jill Mcginnis: I Kimberly Cardenas: well Jill Mcginnis: think we got some exclusivity in that, you know, we got something that nobody Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: else has right now, adjustments in the retail or wholesale price if we need to and it also can create it's own demand from it's uniqueness. Kimberly Cardenas: So our big decision then is like how do we do um like we have to decide on the details and we have to decide on well n not exactly the details, but d do we have uh What type of casing? I personally like what you were saying about the plastic with the rubber. Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. I'm thinking yeah something like kinda almost like these pens, you know, where there's you have plastic bits and then it's not really rubber but just kinda like a fused the plastic with rubber on the outside. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Just a very thin sorta sheet for a a grip, sorta Judie Hoffman: Well no Kimberly Cardenas: thing Judie Hoffman: ma Kimberly Cardenas: or Judie Hoffman: yeah Kimberly Cardenas: for Judie Hoffman: maybe a bit more then th is on here but ju just as a kind of an inspiration, these pens I think are are kind of Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. So then if we d d do we want to do anything more basic with the uh more advanced with the user interface in terms of do we want to go for um buttons, or do we want if we're ditching the scroll wheels do we want to go L_C_D_? Do we want to give do we want to have anything else on it? Sara Le: It's only a T_V_. Judie Hoffman: Or from from my perspective I think L_C_D_ is a mistake because this is a universal remote and all you're doing I mean it's you're not gonna get any information back from the television, so the only information you can display on this remote is what channel you just sent it at last and there's just not a lot of information, you know, there. Sara Le: Hmm. Judie Hoffman: It Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Judie Hoffman: receives no information. So I I don't see any reason for having an L_C_D_ 'cause it's an increased cost. Unless Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Judie Hoffman: you can think of something interesting to do with it. Jill Mcginnis: Yeah right now there's right now there's nothing coming out of the T_V_ to receive, so Judie Hoffman: Right. Jill Mcginnis: you know unless technology changes and information starts coming out of the a cable box or something there's no s I don't see the, I don't see the necessity of an L_C_D_ either. Don't see it. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay so the question is now I guess we need t to decide on well y you guys basically have to now go and figure out the details of this thing. of marketing and uh project management are are there any other questions that we need to answer now before you guys can go and build this? What what overall things have we not decided on? Judie Hoffman: Well we have to I think for Jill Mcginnis it's still not exactly clear exactly what the inter user interface is gonna be. There's the scroll wheel, in or out? What do you guys like in the user interface? Kimberly Cardenas: I think maybe in terms of marketing, is that gonna make enough of a Jill Mcginnis: Again. Kimberly Cardenas: difference to justify the cost? Jill Mcginnis: Well I think it's it's the more uniqueness you can bring to the product, the easier it is, I believe, for Jill Mcginnis to market. Uh again the push-buttons I I see are are everywhere. And so we can go with the same thing, but we're gonna be com competing in a in a broader market than if we go with something unique. You know the other thing I thought about was you know, do we go to something like this? Make a remote that doesn't look like a remote. It's just another it's just a an idea, and I don't know Judie Hoffman: Well I dunno about like the flip-phone idea, because I think, as far as durability th it's not a big well Jill Mcginnis: I Judie Hoffman: maybe Jill Mcginnis: mean what Judie Hoffman: when Jill Mcginnis: I Judie Hoffman: it's Jill Mcginnis: see Judie Hoffman: closed. Jill Mcginnis: one of the things one of the things you brought up in Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: an earlier presentation is, when you got children, their their stuff gets inside the circuitry, they get dirty, they get messy with drinks and stuff. This Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: And what I keep throwing out there I just keep throwing out ideas to try to make this thing look or act or in some way identify itself as unique or different. Sara Le: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: But you guys are the ones that have to c ultimately create the product within cost. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah and I guess th th the question th th that you're being asked right now is whether is the dock enough of a unique feature to be able to go out and sell that a a as a a very different product, or do we really need the scroll wheel as well? Because Jill Mcginnis: Oh Kimberly Cardenas: the scroll Jill Mcginnis: okay Kimberly Cardenas: wheel comes at quite Jill Mcginnis: phew. Kimberly Cardenas: a cost. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: I think you gotta g get into cost effectiveness. I think if you can have the base station with a with a locator, I think those are two very strong features, if Judie Hoffman: Well Jill Mcginnis: that's something that can be integrated Judie Hoffman: The Jill Mcginnis: without a bunch of extra cost. Judie Hoffman: The locator's gonna require a radio transmitter, which Jill Mcginnis: Mm-hmm. Judie Hoffman: will Kimberly Cardenas: That's gonna n is that gonna need a better chip as well? Judie Hoffman: Um Sara Le: No Judie Hoffman: we're Sara Le: it's Judie Hoffman: probably Sara Le: just Judie Hoffman: gonna Sara Le: different. Judie Hoffman: have to go with a like a medium chip, s I would imagine. But we I we will need a receiver, an antenna. Jill Mcginnis: Integrated, yeah. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: So it's just uh I I think that's Judie Hoffman: It should be a really simple signal though so Jill Mcginnis: I know personally that would be a very attractive feature, is to have a uh have a button I can push to find my remote control. Kimberly Cardenas: And it's presumably gonna need a little speaker in it or something like that as well to beep. Judie Hoffman: That's true yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: But I guess a little tiny speaker is gonna be quite cheap, it's not gonna need q quality, Judie Hoffman: Oh yeah Kimberly Cardenas: is it? It's Judie Hoffman: yeah. It'll be really cheap. Jill Mcginnis: Or maybe you can like have a a smell-o-rama, you know you push a button and it s puts out a stink. You can Sara Le: Maybe not. Kimberly Cardenas: Makes your living room more fresh as Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: you watch. Jill Mcginnis: yeah yeah yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay we're Sara Le: S Kimberly Cardenas: doing well for time here. Um we've got about another ten minutes. I think that uh Judie Hoffman: So the scroll wheel, in or out? Kimberly Cardenas: Mm pr my personal preference is out. I don't think the cost is justified for a little bit more uniqueness when we already have that, and I don't s think Sara Le: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: it's obvious and natural how it would be used. Sara Le: Yeah I think we have like and it's not very usable and it will bring down the robustness of the whole thing, 'cause Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Sara Le: it's Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Sara Le: it it breaks down easier. Judie Hoffman: For Jill Mcginnis I think the scroll wheel actually might not be so bad. I don't know exactly what the increased cost is gonna be, but I think he does have a point, i it might push somebody over the edge when they're looking at our at our remote versus something else, when they see this one has a scroll wheel to go up and down on the channels. I think it might be kinda neat to be able to do it like that. Kimberly Cardenas: But Jill Mcginnis: W Kimberly Cardenas: then that that surely d depends a little on the T_V_ because some T_V_s are quite slow at changing channels from Judie Hoffman: Sure. Kimberly Cardenas: like so if you've got a scroll wheel and you s you have to scroll scroll it really really slowly just so that you're actually keeping in pace with the T_V_'s ability to to change channels. Or Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: do you have to go through and you wait for it? You scroll it a bunch of times and you wait Judie Hoffman: Well Kimberly Cardenas: for Judie Hoffman: I Kimberly Cardenas: it Judie Hoffman: think Kimberly Cardenas: to Judie Hoffman: wh what it would be is like like the m like this, where it's maybe you know a digital wheel, Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Judie Hoffman: right, where it's where it's quantized into you know certain Jill Mcginnis: Oh Kimberly Cardenas: Uh Jill Mcginnis: yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: I see I see. That's where you Jill Mcginnis: Yeah. Judie Hoffman: That was that was my my intuition Kimberly Cardenas: Ah I see Judie Hoffman: of what the Kimberly Cardenas: I see Judie Hoffman: scroll Kimberly Cardenas: what you're Judie Hoffman: wheel Kimberly Cardenas: talking Judie Hoffman: would be. Kimberly Cardenas: about now. Okay. Judie Hoffman: It's just it's basically it it's just a f look and feel thing. It has the same exact functionality as two buttons. Jill Mcginnis: I I think there's you know that uh there are so many people today that are that are surfing are television surfers, and I see the scroll as a as a great mechanism for surfing. Instead Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah Jill Mcginnis: of going Kimberly Cardenas: if you're Jill Mcginnis: button-to-bu Kimberly Cardenas: just sitting there going Jill Mcginnis: you just j you'd j j j j j j. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: I Kimberly Cardenas: That's Jill Mcginnis: really Kimberly Cardenas: kinda cool actually. Jill Mcginnis: I really think Kimberly Cardenas: I like Jill Mcginnis: that's Kimberly Cardenas: that. Jill Mcginnis: a really cool thing for surfing. Judie Hoffman: Now just just so you know though uh you did bring up a point which is very valid, is a lot of T_V_s won't re the T_V_s won't respond exactly the same. Some of them are gonna be kinda slow switching, so you may like queue up like fifteen channel changes, and it'll be like flip, flip, flip. Jill Mcginnis: Well there's Judie Hoffman: But Jill Mcginnis: ano Kimberly Cardenas: Well not n necessarily. You could basically make it so that it'll I mean it's just gonna be sending a signal to the T_V_ yeah Judie Hoffman: Right. Kimberly Cardenas: the T_V_'s Jill Mcginnis: That's right. Kimberly Cardenas: ge so if you send about five flip channels, if you did that it's gonna flip once. If Judie Hoffman: Yeah Kimberly Cardenas: you Judie Hoffman: it Kimberly Cardenas: do Judie Hoffman: just Kimberly Cardenas: that. Judie Hoffman: might be frustrating where you Kimberly Cardenas: Other Judie Hoffman: can't Kimberly Cardenas: than Judie Hoffman: make Kimberly Cardenas: click Judie Hoffman: it go Kimberly Cardenas: click Judie Hoffman: as fast Kimberly Cardenas: click. Judie Hoffman: as you want, but I think Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah. Judie Hoffman: once people get used to it I I do like the idea of the scroll wheel though. Kimberly Cardenas: And if we're marketing it as a high niche product, then we're gonna be selling it to people who are buying good T_V_s as well, yeah, presumably. Sara Le: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: Yeah I think Kimberly Cardenas: Primarily. Jill Mcginnis: so. I I Sara Le: Yep. Jill Mcginnis: think so. Now the the only thing I I on the interface side of it, is that I I I see the dilemma. But if we have the option of of scrolling at any particular speed, or the option of jumping direct, okay. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: So I can go uh presuming I have, on my television, something that tells Jill Mcginnis what channel I'm on, I can scroll direct from channel five to channel thirty two. I know what because it's on the television. The television tells Jill Mcginnis what channel it's on when I change it. So I don't know that really that's that's gonna be a a d problem, 'cause the television can go automatically from channel five to channel thirty two with the push of a button. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm-hmm. Jill Mcginnis: Okay? So ca can we can we create that kind of interface within a scroll system? You understand what I'm saying? Judie Hoffman: I think I know what you might be getting at, or Kimberly Cardenas: Oh Judie Hoffman: or Kimberly Cardenas: I see so if maybe if we had an L_C_D_ up the top that just did a number on it, right? Jill Mcginnis: Oh Kimberly Cardenas: And Jill Mcginnis: no Kimberly Cardenas: then Jill Mcginnis: we Kimberly Cardenas: it Jill Mcginnis: could read Kimberly Cardenas: that Jill Mcginnis: it Kimberly Cardenas: basically Jill Mcginnis: from Judie Hoffman: Well, Jill Mcginnis: the television. Judie Hoffman: what about this what Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Judie Hoffman: about if you can programme in your favourite channels into this scroll wheel and you can just like roll through your favourite channels, Kimberly Cardenas: Well that's Judie Hoffman: and Kimberly Cardenas: quite Judie Hoffman: it c Kimberly Cardenas: cool. You'd Judie Hoffman: it Kimberly Cardenas: need a display on the th Judie Hoffman: Why? Kimberly Cardenas: the thing. Judie Hoffman: It'll tell you when you flip the Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Judie Hoffman: channel Jill Mcginnis: the Judie Hoffman: on the Jill Mcginnis: the television Judie Hoffman: T_V_. Jill Mcginnis: can tell you. Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: Can. Kimberly Cardenas: Oh yeah yeah no I see what you're talking about. Yeah that's kinda cool. How would you program it though? Judie Hoffman: Well you just it's one extra button. You Jill Mcginnis: Put Judie Hoffman: say programme start, and then type in 'cause you still have the typing you know you'll still have the keypad where you Kimberly Cardenas: Okay Judie Hoffman: can type Kimberly Cardenas: okay. Judie Hoffman: 'em in manually. So programme start, zero, one, enter, zero, five, enter, thirty eight, enter, programme end. Jill Mcginnis: And then. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay and yeah and that just basically flips between it and it'll go Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: it sends out zero, five, and then thirty six, and then Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: zero, one again. Yeah that's kinda cool. I like that. Jill Mcginnis: And again we have another another great marketing tool. We have about three we have three or four Kimberly Cardenas: That's Jill Mcginnis: things Kimberly Cardenas: not Jill Mcginnis: here. Kimberly Cardenas: gonna be too expensive because that's gonna be you're gonna be able to nab that off of computer mouse manufacturers really. Judie Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: You could basically come up with a partnership to be able to produce that quite cheaply. Jill Mcginnis: I dunno and Sara Le: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: an maybe we maybe even have this as in-house technology. This may be something that's available through our own uh through our own services. Kimberly Cardenas: Might be, but tha that's not gonna be such a costly feature. The problem we're gonna have is making it robust. Judie Hoffman: Oh well Kimberly Cardenas: Making Judie Hoffman: we also Kimberly Cardenas: it last. Judie Hoffman: have to determine in some manner how to switch between modes, between going through your favourites list and just hitting up one, up Jill Mcginnis: Or Judie Hoffman: two. Jill Mcginnis: we go directional up Kimberly Cardenas: So if there's Jill Mcginnis: we Kimberly Cardenas: a button Jill Mcginnis: go we go Kimberly Cardenas: for Jill Mcginnis: this Kimberly Cardenas: each Jill Mcginnis: we Kimberly Cardenas: type. Jill Mcginnis: go this we go this way for one, we go this way for the other. Judie Hoffman: No because you wanna be able to go up and down through the channels. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah people are gonna Jill Mcginnis: Ah-ha Kimberly Cardenas: have their favourite Jill Mcginnis: okay. Kimberly Cardenas: sorta, whether Jill Mcginnis: Okay, Kimberly Cardenas: they do that Jill Mcginnis: okay, Kimberly Cardenas: or whether they Jill Mcginnis: well then you Judie Hoffman: Right. Jill Mcginnis: just have, you have a diff you have a mode Judie Hoffman: I think Jill Mcginnis: switch. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah Judie Hoffman: we'll need Kimberly Cardenas: yeah Judie Hoffman: a Kimberly Cardenas: the mode switch. Judie Hoffman: we'll need a mode switch, but then if we have a mode switch we're gonna need some kinda indicator Kimberly Cardenas: Just Judie Hoffman: to Kimberly Cardenas: the Judie Hoffman: which, Kimberly Cardenas: lights behind Judie Hoffman: an Kimberly Cardenas: the Judie Hoffman: L_E_ Kimberly Cardenas: buttons. You Judie Hoffman: an Kimberly Cardenas: could have Judie Hoffman: L_E_D_ Kimberly Cardenas: back-lit buttons maybe. Judie Hoffman: okay. Kimberly Cardenas: Would Sara Le: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: that work? Is Judie Hoffman: Okay. Kimberly Cardenas: that okay we have five minutes. So right details th that we've talked about here are that we want a scroll wheel. We want a mode indicator. We want back-lit buttons. And if we're making back-lit buttons period, do we want that just for the mode indicator or maybe to indicate what button you're pressing at the time, so that you know if it's actually pressed or not. I've seen some remotes do that. Judie Hoffman: Okay. Just so you know I think I mean it was my understanding that before we were gonna stay in the mid-market range. It seems we're kind of approaching a higher-end Jill Mcginnis: Yeah Judie Hoffman: range. Jill Mcginnis: yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: I think Judie Hoffman: I wanna make Kimberly Cardenas: we Judie Hoffman: sure Kimberly Cardenas: are Judie Hoffman: everybody's Kimberly Cardenas: yeah. Judie Hoffman: okay Jill Mcginnis: Well you Judie Hoffman: with Jill Mcginnis: had acknowledged Judie Hoffman: that. Jill Mcginnis: that we have more money for this. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah Jill Mcginnis: Didn't you Kimberly Cardenas: well Jill Mcginnis: say Kimberly Cardenas: we don't Jill Mcginnis: so? Kimberly Cardenas: have it's not that we have more money, we can push up the the price. Jill Mcginnis: That's what I mean. We can Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah. Jill Mcginnis: increase the cost. Judie Hoffman: Okay. Jill Mcginnis: So Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. Jill Mcginnis: I don't know I don't Judie Hoffman: I just Jill Mcginnis: know Judie Hoffman: wanna Jill Mcginnis: whether Judie Hoffman: make Jill Mcginnis: having Judie Hoffman: sure everybody's on board with it. So Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah. So we really need to be sure as to what we can push the cost up to, though we haven't got to a stage where we're ready to pin down the price of components. But I'd say what sorta price are we looking to be able to sell something like that, and what sorta price can we make it for? Jill Mcginnis: Well I think th I think the design and technology has to come back and say, okay to create this product we see it's gonna cost us this much for this volume, because we do have a volume target of of fifty million profit. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah no I I think that's where we really should be more flexible than anything else because as we said in the last meeting, our management is really looking for us to push our brand. Judie Hoffman: Right. Kimberly Cardenas: We're entering a new market here, so I think the the profit expectation for this one product is maybe not as important as being able to Jill Mcginnis: Okay I'm I'm okay with that. I guess what I just want to Jill Mcginnis the next step is for these guys to come come in with the design proposal w with the cost estimate attached, and then we have to take this to the next Kimberly Cardenas: But Jill Mcginnis: level. Kimberly Cardenas: th what's our ballpark as to what we'd be able to sell something Judie Hoffman: Well Kimberly Cardenas: like this Judie Hoffman: y yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: for? Judie Hoffman: Let's let's try Jill Mcginnis: We have Judie Hoffman: and think Jill Mcginnis: to find Judie Hoffman: now, Jill Mcginnis: cost. Judie Hoffman: how much would you pay for with all these features how much would you pay if you went to the store, and you were in the market f to replace your T_V_ remote, how much would you pay for that? Kimberly Cardenas: But you've gotta think who our target market is because Judie Hoffman: I'm just asking Kimberly Cardenas: I I'm Judie Hoffman: you. Kimberly Cardenas: not our target market. I'm a student, but Judie Hoffman: If Kimberly Cardenas: on the other hand I would think, mm with my Project Manager salary, I Judie Hoffman: Then Kimberly Cardenas: would Judie Hoffman: you could probably Kimberly Cardenas: think Judie Hoffman: afford Kimberly Cardenas: yeah Judie Hoffman: this. Kimberly Cardenas: I could probably afford this uh would I buy it? Maybe. If I had a cool new T_V_ and this was r looking really slick and it had the dock and it had the scroll wheel, which I think's a really cool idea, that would sell Jill Mcginnis on it a little. Then maybe you know. I do I don't think I'd go over a hundred Euro certainly, Judie Hoffman: Oh Kimberly Cardenas: that would Judie Hoffman: no Kimberly Cardenas: be way Judie Hoffman: no. Kimberly Cardenas: too much, but the I would be happy paying over forty for it, I guess, Judie Hoffman: I would say thirty Kimberly Cardenas: but not Judie Hoffman: five Kimberly Cardenas: much Judie Hoffman: to forty. Jill Mcginnis: Yeah, I was gonna say thirty five to fifty. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay. Thirty five to fifty Euros is our sales bracket okay. Judie Hoffman: Okay. Kimberly Cardenas: So Jill Mcginnis: Because Kimberly Cardenas: the question Jill Mcginnis: one of Kimberly Cardenas: is Jill Mcginnis: th Kimberly Cardenas: what Jill Mcginnis: one Kimberly Cardenas: we ca Jill Mcginnis: of Kimberly Cardenas: we Jill Mcginnis: the Kimberly Cardenas: make Jill Mcginnis: things Kimberly Cardenas: it Jill Mcginnis: we're Kimberly Cardenas: for. Jill Mcginnis: marketing about this product is that this is the last one you will ever need to buy for Judie Hoffman: Right. Jill Mcginnis: your television. Kimberly Cardenas: Mm. Jill Mcginnis: It's one of the marketing features in this. Kimberly Cardenas: That's why the scroll needs to be really robust. Sara Le: Okay so we'll come up with something between thirty five and fifty that is rug rubber, robust, with scroll wheel, with the new facilities of the scroll wheel like favourite stuff, favourite channels, Jill Mcginnis: Mm-hmm. Judie Hoffman: With Sara Le: and Judie Hoffman: a cradle, radio Sara Le: and Judie Hoffman: transmitters, Sara Le: with a cradle, and yeah and the locator. Judie Hoffman: and back-lit buttons. And it's gonna look sexy. Sara Le: Or not. Judie Hoffman: Or not. It might look like clay. Sara Le: Okay so you can market Jill Mcginnis: Yeah yeah. Sara Le: pe depending Jill Mcginnis: Bas th that's Sara Le: on that? Jill Mcginnis: that's easy. That's that's not a, it's a. 'Cause we have about six, six, seven features in that alone. Kimberly Cardenas: Yep. Jill Mcginnis: Under Sara Le: Cool. Jill Mcginnis: the title of uniquenesses. Sara Le: Hmm. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. The next meeting starts in thirty minutes, although does it? It starts at three twenty one, the next meeting. So we've got more than a thirty minutes. Um we've got Jill Mcginnis: Well Kimberly Cardenas: more Jill Mcginnis: I have Kimberly Cardenas: like fifty. Jill Mcginnis: Is my three twenty one is the next meeting? Kimberly Cardenas: The the ne next meeting is three twenty one yeah. Jill Mcginnis: That's that's almost uh fifty minutes. Kimberly Cardenas: Yeah that is. Uh Jill Mcginnis: You guys Kimberly Cardenas: they've Jill Mcginnis: can Kimberly Cardenas: they've changed the times from the presentations. Jill Mcginnis: You guys you guys can uh create a All Judie Hoffman: Probably. Jill Mcginnis: kinds of things. Judie Hoffman: We'll let you know when we're done, if we can go earlier. Jill Mcginnis: Thanks, yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay so you guys will be getting your modelling done now Judie Hoffman: Yeah. Kimberly Cardenas: and uh Okay are there any other questions with regards to what this thing's gonna do, look like, how it's gonna work that need to be addressed before we really look at this in a lot of detail? Judie Hoffman: I don't think so. If we have any questions we'll just email you I guess. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. Sara Le: Yeah I think it pretty much everything's covered. Kimberly Cardenas: Okay. This one was quite easy. Sara Le: Coulda been worse. Jill Mcginnis: Still. Kimberly Cardenas: Always the optimist. Sara Le: Yes I am. Kimberly Cardenas: 'Kay thanks guys. Jill Mcginnis: Thank you. I don't have any emails. This means I can go home. Oh, we all leave.	Sara Le presented an overview of the internal components of a remote control device. He discussed energy source and material options, and suggested that using rubber and plastic would be the most versatile option. He displayed the three options for chips. Judie Hoffman discussed voice recognition with the group, and the group decided to not use it in their design. He suggested using rubber buttons because of their durability. He discussed the size of the device and the layout of the interface, and suggested that the remote be moderately sized to prevent its getting lost. Jill Mcginnis expressed concern that the remote lacked enough features to be distinctive. The group had a discussion to decide on the product features. They decided to include a charging stand, to use a thin rubber casing material, to include a locator function and a scroll wheel with two channel-changing options to increase its usability. The group discussed the cost of the various components and decided to sell the device at a point between thirty-five and fifty Euros. Judie Hoffman and Sara Le were instructed to construct the prototype.	4	amisum	train
Gayla Mendez: Uh 'kay. So Madeline Ellis: So so so. Barbara Dunstan: Put on your mic. Karissa Perez: So you forgot how this works again? Barbara Dunstan: Boss. Gayla Mendez: Yep. Karissa Perez: Boss. Madeline Ellis: Maybe. Maybe maybe maybe. Gayla Mendez: Okay so we're here to talk about the detailed design of the product 'kay? Barbara Dunstan: Yep. Gayla Mendez: And here's the agenda for this meeting. Uh I'm just gonna open, say a few boring words to start with again, and start taking minutes afterwards. You guys are gonna give us a presentation of our wonder product that I can see some demonstrations of over there. Looks cool. And then we're gonna evaluate it. Then Madeline Ellis: Bra Gayla Mendez: we're gonna talk about finance, and I've got a lovely Excel spreadsheet I knocked up in the last five minutes for this. And Karissa Perez: Hmm you knocked it up? Gayla Mendez: uh yep. And we're gonna evaluate the product and close. Got forty minutes to do this in. We should be fine. Let's try and keep this one on schedule. Barbara Dunstan: Alright. Gayla Mendez: So Your thing is in where Karissa Perez: Thi Gayla Mendez: is it? Is Karissa Perez: third Barbara Dunstan: Three, Gayla Mendez: it in Karissa Perez: third third. Barbara Dunstan: three. Karissa Perez: The end product thingy. Yeah. Gayla Mendez: Who wants it? Barbara Dunstan: Pedro can have it. I like I'll help talk. Karissa Perez: Um yeah so what we ended up with. Production costs estimated by our manufacturing department and um the research department, which is us, is uh fifteen point eight Euros, someone forgot the units Barbara Dunstan: Unit price. Karissa Perez: there yeah, uh unit price unit production price cost thing. Um we implemented the basic functions, plus the locator, which was one of the marketing things, cradle, scroll wheel for uh the the channels, and uh we implemented the f the the way of putting the new and revolutionary zapping, your favourite channels functionality, in the scroll. Gayla Mendez: Zapping your favourite channels, eh? Karissa Perez: Yeah. Barbara Dunstan: Scrolling through your favourites list. Gayla Mendez: Oh okay okay. Karissa Perez: Zapping you know zapping. Gayla Mendez: Ah 'kay okay, that's Karissa Perez: Maybe Gayla Mendez: favourites. Karissa Perez: it's just a Portuguese thing. And um yeah that was the result. Gayla Mendez: Ah 'kay. I like the the the the logo on there as well. Barbara Dunstan: It's very prominent. Gayla Mendez: It is very prominent. So this is the Barbara Dunstan: So here I'll give you the so this is the cradle unit, and this is the actual remote itself. Um so the scroll bar is or the scroll wheel is this this green little scrolly guy here, um and then the volume controls are here and here. Gayla Mendez: Okay. Barbara Dunstan: got the keypad which is the numbers uh f from zero to nine and then ten. This is the power button. Uh we have our um we have the enter button and uh what was the other button here? This is the Karissa Perez: Start Barbara Dunstan: teletext. Karissa Perez: s the the start uh to to Barbara Dunstan: The Karissa Perez: to Barbara Dunstan: programme button, Karissa Perez: programme yeah. Barbara Dunstan: yeah the Gayla Mendez: Ah, Barbara Dunstan: programme Gayla Mendez: okay Barbara Dunstan: button. Gayla Mendez: I see. Barbara Dunstan: So this bl this button will be used both for the favourites and for programming your uh the um the type of television you wanna use. So um the plastic is the white area of this of the model here, and the red area is like a rubber covering. So Gayla Mendez: It's pretty Barbara Dunstan: you Gayla Mendez: cool. Barbara Dunstan: can see that when it lays like this or like this and the buttons are all gonna be rubber, so it's pretty hard to actually damage it um Gayla Mendez: Is that could that be easy to for the scroll wheel to be rotated if it lands on it? Barbara Dunstan: Yeah that might be a possible a mi uh possible problem, but Karissa Perez: Not Barbara Dunstan: if Karissa Perez: helping. Barbara Dunstan: you drop it yeah. Gayla Mendez: Oh well I guess it depends on the stiffness a little of it. Barbara Dunstan: Yeah and it depends on if it's sliding, but I think it's pretty ergonomic. You can feel it. Gayla Mendez: Mm. Feels good. I take it that this is gonna be slightly lighter in the Barbara Dunstan: Yeah Gayla Mendez: final Barbara Dunstan: of course. Gayla Mendez: design as well. Barbara Dunstan: Well this is clay. Gayla Mendez: Yeah it's kinda cool. You have to reach a little Barbara Dunstan: Yeah the Gayla Mendez: bit don't Barbara Dunstan: the power Gayla Mendez: you. Barbara Dunstan: button is a bit of a reach, but I think we might scale down the final model a bit. Gayla Mendez: Ah yeah Barbara Dunstan: These Gayla Mendez: that wouldn't make sense. Barbara Dunstan: this is a bit larger than it would be, but Gayla Mendez: It's cool. I'm impressed. Karissa Perez: Don't have no one to handle that. Madeline Ellis: Mm Gayla Mendez: And hold it Madeline Ellis: that's Gayla Mendez: so wh what's Madeline Ellis: oh Gayla Mendez: the Madeline Ellis: that's Gayla Mendez: marketing perspective? Madeline Ellis: oh I like it. I mean you guys gave Madeline Ellis more than I was asking for, so I'm happy because we've got some really marketable features in this. Yeah I think it's good. Good good good job. Barbara Dunstan: Mm Pedro can demonstrate the Karissa Perez: Yeah. Barbara Dunstan: the paging ability. Karissa Perez: So you ha you have like the the base station with um the little button for the where's my remote. Barbara Dunstan: Beep beep beep. Madeline Ellis: Uh pla Karissa Perez: The locator Madeline Ellis: I'm ha Karissa Perez: function. Madeline Ellis: It's Gayla Mendez: Okay. Madeline Ellis: great. That's great. It's Barbara Dunstan: Um Madeline Ellis: a great feature. Gayla Mendez: Mm it's impressing. Barbara Dunstan: beep beep beep Gayla Mendez: So Barbara Dunstan: so Gayla Mendez: let Madeline Ellis get it, if I press this button Barbara Dunstan: beep beep beep Gayla Mendez: I see. That's pretty Karissa Perez: Wicked Gayla Mendez: cool. Karissa Perez: isn't Gayla Mendez: Hang on. Barbara Dunstan: beep Karissa Perez: it? Barbara Dunstan: beep beep be shut up. Madeline Ellis: So you can take this ho take this home with you Barbara Dunstan: Beep Madeline Ellis: tonight and you can push that and he'll be across town Barbara Dunstan: beep beep okay. Gayla Mendez: I plan to do that as well. Barbara Dunstan: Um no no no tha Gayla Mendez: So Barbara Dunstan: that's Gayla Mendez: the Barbara Dunstan: alri Gayla Mendez: the two blue are are those for the the it to charge off of Barbara Dunstan: Exactly Gayla Mendez: in? Barbara Dunstan: that's exactly Gayla Mendez: Ah okay Barbara Dunstan: what those are Gayla Mendez: okay. Barbara Dunstan: for. And um there's one other feature that we were debating, but we decided to go against it, is um you could beep beep beep we were thinking that it might be interesting to have a trigger button here because you have this Gayla Mendez: Yeah Barbara Dunstan: finger it Gayla Mendez: it's Barbara Dunstan: it's it kinda Gayla Mendez: the Barbara Dunstan: feels Gayla Mendez: right shape Barbara Dunstan: like Gayla Mendez: isn't Barbara Dunstan: there Gayla Mendez: it? Barbara Dunstan: should be something there, but we couldn't figure out what button is important enough to put there. And we we don't wanna accidentally be hitting the power button like that Gayla Mendez: But maybe Barbara Dunstan: so Gayla Mendez: if you had a trigger plus the scroll then Barbara Dunstan: Mm. Gayla Mendez: that would get past the the problem of it landing and scrolling, Barbara Dunstan: Right. Gayla Mendez: 'cause then it would need to be hit on both sides. Barbara Dunstan: So maybe in a final design phase we might tweak that a little bit, but Gayla Mendez: Okay. Madeline Ellis: Uh, I Gayla Mendez: But it's Madeline Ellis: can Gayla Mendez: definitely Madeline Ellis: see that. Gayla Mendez: got options for like different types of models and things as well based Barbara Dunstan: Mm-hmm. Gayla Mendez: on that, hasn't it? Madeline Ellis: Yep I like. Good job. Gayla Mendez: So is that the the final colour scheme as well or? Barbara Dunstan: Oh no this is Madeline Ellis: No no. Barbara Dunstan: just what we had to work with at the time. Gayla Mendez: Okay. Barbara Dunstan: So we'll leave the colour scheme up to the marketing people. Gayla Mendez: The hmm. Barbara Dunstan: Careful. Gayla Mendez: It came off. The scroll wheels, a problem with them not being sort of Madeline Ellis: Well I mean Gayla Mendez: I don't Madeline Ellis: of Gayla Mendez: think Madeline Ellis: course, Gayla Mendez: the user interface Madeline Ellis: I mean Gayla Mendez: guy wants to touch it Madeline Ellis: My Gayla Mendez: anymore. Madeline Ellis: my s my suggestion is we're gonna go go to the silvers and blacks like most of the televisions. Gayla Mendez: Mm. Madeline Ellis: You know some blend of silvers and blacks. Barbara Dunstan: Beep beep beep. Gayla Mendez: Okay enough of that. Well i it's cool guys. 'Kay so are we done with the this presentation? Barbara Dunstan: Yeah. Karissa Perez: Ja. Gayla Mendez: Okay. Now now. Madeline Ellis: So you're not gonna find my uh my folder up there I gotta do mine up at the board. Gayla Mendez: Have you? Okay. Madeline Ellis: Yeah yeah. So Gayla Mendez: Can I not get your get at stuff from your shared folder now? Madeline Ellis: No it's not in there because I had the computer problem and I Gayla Mendez: Oh I Madeline Ellis: I Gayla Mendez: see Madeline Ellis: I Gayla Mendez: I see. Madeline Ellis: cou I couldn't create it. I couldn't create it in the PowerPoint, and I think I've got this really strange cable. So what I had, basically going from the PowerPoint format, is that uh yeah yeah I like this a lot. Is this one of the tests is to see how we can adapt to s changing situations in the in the meeting room? Karissa Perez: Nah. Madeline Ellis: So what we had is we had the method. That's not how you spell method, is it? Barbara Dunstan: No way. Madeline Ellis: No A_. So this doesn't go so fast this way. And when I speak about method I speak about the marketing of the product huh. Madeline Ellis: And uh to Madeline Ellis with this product we got uh we got basically three things to market. We've got the features, we have the uh characteristics, and we have the I I don't know what we would call the other part what we call you know the the the corp corporate Help Madeline Ellis. The the corporation stands behind the product, okay. So the features I think we got the scroll, we've got the uh the locator, we've Karissa Perez: It Madeline Ellis: got Karissa Perez: fell Madeline Ellis: the durability, Karissa Perez: off. Madeline Ellis: we've got the dependability, we've got you know the Barbara Dunstan: Beep Madeline Ellis: features Barbara Dunstan: beep beep. Madeline Ellis: that make this a unique product. Um the characteristics I talk about, we have reliability, we have comfort, we have ergonomics, we have environmentally s sensitive. Uh and the corporation, we're talking about we're we're a new we're a new company. We're wanting to make a name for ourself. We're wanting you to uh find our product so we're gonna give you a good product at a fair price. One thing I would want to to see is uh is can we can we get a lifetime uh guarantee on this product, a normal use guarantee, which means that this product, for the for the life of of the life use, if it should have a technical problem, that we could re replace it at no cost? That was something I would be interested in. Um so yeah without uh going into great details, we have a we have a product, it has the features and the characteristics, and the background, I believe, to make it marketable I believe at a cost of of of thirty thirty five to to fifty Euros. We're gonna be competitive, and we're gonna we're gonna have a market niche. Um Gayla Mendez: Do you Madeline Ellis: w Gayla Mendez: would you a argue that that we're better going for the higher cost than bringing it down into twenty f five as we probably could, but lowering our profit margins? Madeline Ellis: That that would be uh that would be I think a decision best made by corporate um I I m for my evaluation, based on what our competition is, I th I think that that we can go after this and and and go after more of the uh exclusivity sense than the mass market sense. Gayla Mendez: Mm-hmm. Mm 'kay. Madeline Ellis: But I'm sh I'm sure open to to market this in either direction. But you guys came up with a great product, and at that cost I think it uh there's nobody else that's putting this this combination of of ingredients together. The only limitations I see to this is that we're focused on television only. Uh that's the only that's the only drawback I see to this. But with all of these other features I think people c one thing I'm I'm hoping for is people are not gonna even notice. There's gonna be somebody going home and say oh sh this thing doesn't work for my D_V_D_ and my but I like these other things, so they keep it, they don't take it Gayla Mendez: And Madeline Ellis: back. Gayla Mendez: we're actually quite open to be able to expand the product for a later version with those features quite simply anyway, aren't we? Th there's no fundamentally different technology Madeline Ellis: Well one of Gayla Mendez: to do Madeline Ellis: one Gayla Mendez: that. Madeline Ellis: of the thoughts that I had is can can this unit be be produced in a way that makes it upgradable? You know Gayla Mendez: Hmm. Madeline Ellis: uh like like a um a sim card in a in a um in a telephone. You know is there a card in th can we make a card and so after Karissa Perez: W we need we need we need s some more buttons if it would to work on some other stuff, Barbara Dunstan: Mm-hmm. Karissa Perez: but Madeline Ellis: Mm-hmm, but you follow what Karissa Perez: We Madeline Ellis: I'm s I'm Karissa Perez: we Madeline Ellis: s Karissa Perez: w yeah we could get another version of it that actually works. Madeline Ellis: Yeah 'cause Karissa Perez: But Madeline Ellis: if Karissa Perez: uh Madeline Ellis: if we can make this unit upgradable then we're yeah but then we talk about changing the warranty concept and everything, but that's that was just an idea I had. Uh to Madeline Ellis Gayla Mendez: Yeah, Madeline Ellis: the only Gayla Mendez: the Madeline Ellis: additions Gayla Mendez: plus there's the the risk of making it unusable as well, or making it less b because at the moment it's actually very straightforward to look at all the buttons, you know what they do, it's very Madeline Ellis: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: simple, and it just works. Madeline Ellis: Yep. Gayla Mendez: Mm there's a risk of that. Madeline Ellis: But anyway that's uh Gayla Mendez: Okay so we can talk about finance now. So I have a little spreadsheet for us where I I was wondering, you when you talked about the fifteen point eight Euros, I was wondering how you came up with that figure? Barbara Dunstan: Well, that was just just our technical team added up the um production costs of the individual units. Gayla Mendez: Okay so I have bit of a spreadsheet here for this. Karissa Perez: Very Barbara Dunstan: Oh. Karissa Perez: co Gayla Mendez: Now Karissa Perez: very colf Gayla Mendez: I've Karissa Perez: colourful. Gayla Mendez: made a f few assumptions here in that I'm assuming that our power adaptor Barbara Dunstan: Uh-huh. Gayla Mendez: we can make for a cost of four Euros, equivalent to solar cells, which I think is probably fair considering that we have in-house manufacturing of power adaptors already. Barbara Dunstan: Uh-huh. Gayla Mendez: Uh and I'm assuming that the locator beacon, the you know the Madeline Ellis: Mm-hmm. Barbara Dunstan: Yeah. Karissa Perez: beep beep beep. Gayla Mendez: Can be made for it sounded different that time uh can be made Barbara Dunstan: Oh, Gayla Mendez: for Barbara Dunstan: sorry. Gayla Mendez: a similar price to uh an L_C_ display, uh an uh Uh do you think that's fair coming from a m the manufacturing? Barbara Dunstan: Yeah um I do think we that we we uh don't need the events chip on print, we only need the uh the regular chip on print, so Gayla Mendez: Okay. Barbara Dunstan: there may have been a m miscalculation Gayla Mendez: Yep. Barbara Dunstan: in there. Gayla Mendez: Okay. So we're down to sixteen point Barbara Dunstan: And Gayla Mendez: four, Barbara Dunstan: we Gayla Mendez: yeah. Barbara Dunstan: and we have a single-curved uh Gayla Mendez: Is that a single-curved rather than a double-curved? Barbara Dunstan: Uh I think that Gayla Mendez: We're not entirely sure what single-curve Madeline Ellis: We've got a we've Gayla Mendez: versus Madeline Ellis: got a curve Gayla Mendez: double-cur Madeline Ellis: and a droop. I don't know whether that. Barbara Dunstan: It's single-curved, Gayla Mendez: You think? Okay Barbara Dunstan: yeah. Gayla Mendez: I'm convinced. But we save one Euro that way, yeah? So we come bring it down to Fifteen Barbara Dunstan: See it's a little Gayla Mendez: point Barbara Dunstan: bit Gayla Mendez: four. Barbara Dunstan: more than f single-curved. So yeah it's fifteen point eight, that's where we came up with it. Gayla Mendez: Well hang on. Do don't speak so Barbara Dunstan: Okay. Gayla Mendez: it's in here, in that w do we have any we have special form don't we? Karissa Perez: Yeah. Barbara Dunstan: Yeah we do. Gayla Mendez: So that's yeah. Barbara Dunstan: Ah. Gayla Mendez: But Barbara Dunstan: What do Gayla Mendez: the Barbara Dunstan: you know. Gayla Mendez: the the we haven't talked about any special colour though uh I don't th Barbara Dunstan: Oh it's a that's Gayla Mendez: think Barbara Dunstan: not Gayla Mendez: we're Barbara Dunstan: very special, it's pretty Gayla Mendez: O okay so we're Push-button, Barbara Dunstan: If Karissa Perez: We don't Gayla Mendez: scroll wheel, we're basically Barbara Dunstan: th. Gayla Mendez: we have uh th is this intended to be a button as well or just a scroll? Karissa Perez: It's a scroll. Barbara Dunstan: That's a scroll. Gayla Mendez: Just a scroll? It's not one of the scrolls where, for example, with this one you could push it down to be a button? Barbara Dunstan: Uh no we just Madeline Ellis: Ooh. Barbara Dunstan: use it as a scroll. Gayla Mendez: Okay then we have fifteen point eight Euros. Barbara Dunstan: It was a pretty accurate estimate I Gayla Mendez: It Barbara Dunstan: would Karissa Perez: Yes. Gayla Mendez: wasn't Barbara Dunstan: say. Gayla Mendez: bad. Karissa Perez: We're wicked. Barbara Dunstan: Yeah. Karissa Perez: Awesome. Gayla Mendez: Okay so we're on Barbara Dunstan: S Gayla Mendez: to Barbara Dunstan: 's Gayla Mendez: the Barbara Dunstan: kind of s frighteningly accurate. Karissa Perez: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: We're on to the pat-on-the-back part of the presentation, where we have a look at the criterias th that Paul the criterion criteria that Paul has has given us, and we can use that to tell How's it going? Anyone got any Barbara Dunstan: What? Gayla Mendez: thoughts? How how have we done today? Barbara Dunstan: I think we did pretty well. Karissa Perez: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: I think we did pretty well too. That looks pretty spectacular. Madeline Ellis: No, I think we come up with a with a attractive marketable um product and and concept. Gayla Mendez: Any other chang uh thoughts? Gayla Mendez: Okay so th th what about um room for creativity? Karissa Perez: That Gayla Mendez: Is Karissa Perez: was Gayla Mendez: it Karissa Perez: mm-hmm Barbara Dunstan: Sh Gayla Mendez: the. Barbara Dunstan: I think there was plenty of room. Karissa Perez: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: I I think we we Barbara Dunstan: We got Gayla Mendez: ended Barbara Dunstan: a couple Gayla Mendez: up being Barbara Dunstan: innovative Gayla Mendez: quite creative Barbara Dunstan: i Gayla Mendez: there. Madeline Ellis: Yeah well Barbara Dunstan: Couple Madeline Ellis: we Barbara Dunstan: innovative ideas. Madeline Ellis: we we kinda broke we kinda at least adjusted every every criteria they gave us because we Gayla Mendez: Mm. Madeline Ellis: d we still have the the teletext capability in this thing right, Karissa Perez: No. Barbara Dunstan: Mm-hmm. Madeline Ellis: we raised the price of it, Karissa Perez: Yeah. Madeline Ellis: we've added two t new technology to it. So you know you know if this thing flies then we've we've adjusted or broken every every idea they gave us. Gayla Mendez: Not Karissa Perez: Basically. Gayla Mendez: every idea necessarily, it's still a remote control. Madeline Ellis: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Gayla Mendez: Uh no yeah but we did we did break with the specs a little bit I guess, but the uh Madeline Ellis: But I like I mean when I say we have we had I believe we have room for creativity 'cause w this is we did it. Gayla Mendez: 'Kay leadership, what do we report back to the bosses? No th th I think they were r reasonably flexible with us over the whole changing the specs thing. Karissa Perez: It Barbara Dunstan: Yep. Karissa Perez: was more of a teamwork thing then really leadership based Gayla Mendez: I agree. Karissa Perez: project was Teamwork. Madeline Ellis: Cohesive yeah. Gayla Mendez: Synergy. Madeline Ellis: Yes synergistic yeah. Barbara Dunstan: There was a lot of synergy. Gayla Mendez: Teamwork, yeah he is uh. Madeline Ellis: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: What did we think of the meeting room, I guess is an important thing here. Barbara Dunstan: These Gayla Mendez: Mm. Barbara Dunstan: cables suck. Gayla Mendez: Yeah, Karissa Perez: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: this falls off and Barbara Dunstan: Yep. Gayla Mendez: uh Karissa Perez: And Gayla Mendez: the Karissa Perez: that's Gayla Mendez: white board worked really well without Barbara Dunstan: Yeah. Gayla Mendez: any Karissa Perez: D you must Gayla Mendez: pro Karissa Perez: have very long shirts. That's way far down lapel mic. Gayla Mendez: Mm-mm, lapel. Wha Karissa Perez: Lapel lapel Barbara Dunstan: Lapel. Gayla Mendez: okay, Karissa Perez: lapel. Gayla Mendez: oh, alright. Karissa Perez: That's almost a crotch mi cr Gayla Mendez: That's it's down, it's quite close. Madeline Ellis: You know you know what they're gonna Gayla Mendez: Keep Madeline Ellis: have Gayla Mendez: it, Madeline Ellis: on the recording Gayla Mendez: keep it Madeline Ellis: in Gayla Mendez: calm. Madeline Ellis: there from that microphone is your lunch digesting you know th Karissa Perez: Oh dear Gayla Mendez: Oh dear. Karissa Perez: oh dear. Gayla Mendez: No more pizza for Madeline Ellis. So yeah the the pen came in alright and it's a little uncomfortable to use but I guess it works. Karissa Perez: 'Cause this is you were using it o upside down. Still that Barbara Dunstan: That's our boss. Gayla Mendez: Nah, I'm I'm not convinced of that at all. I've been wor I've been wondering about that all day, but see these look like they're that looks the oth Karissa Perez: Use them Gayla Mendez: that Karissa Perez: like Gayla Mendez: looks Karissa Perez: that. Gayla Mendez: like it would be that way around, Barbara Dunstan: Pedro's right. Gayla Mendez: but it feels more comfortable, wh what Barbara Dunstan: Pedro's Gayla Mendez: you call upside-down. Barbara Dunstan: right. Gayla Mendez: I don't care. Uh okay so that data might be slightly invalid. What new ideas have we found? Barbara Dunstan: Oh Madeline Ellis: New ideas Barbara Dunstan: wel Madeline Ellis: f uh for the product or for the the the the environment or what Gayla Mendez: Well Madeline Ellis: are we Gayla Mendez: let's Madeline Ellis: ta Gayla Mendez: do both then. Uh for the product? Barbara Dunstan: Well we had the favourites list, and the scroll bar, and we have the cradle, and the r uh remote Madeline Ellis: Oh. Barbara Dunstan: call feature. Gayla Mendez: Yeah we came up with quite a bit. Karissa Perez: Bunch of new ideas. Gayla Mendez: And for the meeting room, Has anyone got any more Karissa Perez: Yeah comfortable headsets would be nice. Gayla Mendez: Yeah Madeline Ellis: Well Gayla Mendez: less Madeline Ellis: I Gayla Mendez: sore Madeline Ellis: I mean Gayla Mendez: on Karissa Perez: Mm. Gayla Mendez: the ears. Madeline Ellis: clearly remote control microphones would be the would be a nice solution to all these cables, but I'm sure that there's there's some justification for these things that I don't know about. And of course I did not have so much fun with my computer this afternoon. It's not been uh it's not been cooperating so well, but I don't think that's the that's avoidable. Karissa Perez: Coulda been worse. Gayla Mendez: Okay so Are the costs within the budget? Karissa Perez: Mm Madeline Ellis: No. Karissa Perez: n Gayla Mendez: Nope. Karissa Perez: no. Gayla Mendez: Oh hang on it really that's something we that the costs were under twelve fifty Euros. No requirements are changed. We're still under twenty Euros to build, so we're good. And the costs within the budget? Not the original budget, but they are now. Is the project evaluated? Mm I think so yeah, then celebration Karissa Perez: Hooray. Gayla Mendez: as it says. Madeline Ellis: Okay. Karissa Perez: Free coke provided at the cafeteria. Barbara Dunstan: All right. Gayla Mendez: Oh I don't know how that got there. Uh anyway. Karissa Perez: Who wrote Gayla Mendez: Thank Karissa Perez: that one? Madeline Ellis: So we need to Gayla Mendez: Thanks Madeline Ellis: close Gayla Mendez: guys. Madeline Ellis: this meeting, yeah bravo. Congratulations. Karissa Perez: Cool. Barbara Dunstan: Good job guys. Madeline Ellis: S I've got a lot of paperwork to catch up on so let's close this and come back Gayla Mendez: Yeah, I've got a lot of paperwork Madeline Ellis: and 'kay. Gayla Mendez: to catch up on too. Oh.	Barbara Dunstan and Karissa Perez presented the prototype to the group and displayed all of its components. They demonstrated how the locator function operates. They suggested that a trigger button should be included in a later designing phase to improve the feel of the product. Madeline Ellis gave an evaluation of the product and felt that it satisfied his criteria. He suggested including a lifetime guarantee and expressed concern that the remote would only be used for televisions. Gayla Mendez discussed the final production cost with the group; after an analysis of all of the components the final cost was 15.8 Euros. Gayla Mendez then led a discussion about the group's experience on the project. The group felt that they worked well together and that they had room to be creative, but only after they changed many of the initial specifications. They also had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment. They were satisfied with the increased final cost and budget.	4	amisum	train
Diane White: So let's start our second Ashley Bowman meeting on design. Ashley Bowman: Mm-hmm. Diane White: So, as the previous meeting I will be the secretary Wanda Dulle: Mm-hmm. Diane White: and we will have three presentations and we'll have to decide on the remote control concept and finally we'll close the decision. So I will first uh Ashley Bowman: No y you do the minutes first or, Diane White: What? Ashley Bowman: No? Diane White: I I think I will let uh Ashley Bowman: Okay. Diane White: our User Interface Designer speak first, Mister David Jordan. Vera Solomon: Yep. Diane White: So, we'll Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: S technical accessoire? Vera Solomon: No no no. Diane White: Interface? Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: This. Vera Solomon: Mm. So uh first I will present the concept of user interface. Um there's three concepts in the user interface. So first one it's a Google controller. The second is a fancy controller. The last one is uh intelligent controller. So there are three concepts in our controller. Um n next I will explain one by one, the first is Google controller. Um, so I want the controller to be easy to use, but with sophisticated functions. So it's a combination of easy to use and um sophisticated functions. Uh this is a first concept of our controller. The second concept is a fancy controller, um so we want give the customers the impression that our controller is very attractive, um they can easy recognise our controller among a lot of products, so so the u the user f the the u user interface should be very very cute, very Ashley Bowman: Mm. Wanda Dulle: Mm. Vera Solomon: very g um Wanda Dulle: A nice Vera Solomon: attractive. Wanda Dulle: one. Vera Solomon: Such like this, there are several uh examples in the slides. Diane White: I'm not sure the one in the middle is very attractive. Vera Solomon: Yeah, it's very, you know if you're Diane White: very big yeah. Vera Solomon: Yeah. It's hard f i it's easy for you to remember it. Or to recognise it, yeah. Diane White: Okay. Yeah, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: why not. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: We'll have big discussion Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: I suppose after that, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: so. Ashley Bowman: Mm. Vera Solomon: So the last uh concept is intelligent. We want uh we want our controller to be smart, Wanda Dulle: Mm-hmm. Ashley Bowman: Mm. Vera Solomon: so maybe we should uh use um uh technology, such as speech recognition technology and gesture recognition technology, so we need to have coop some cooperation with some research institute on speech recognition and um gesture recognition. Um With this advanced features we I think we can attract a lot of user. Diane White: Okay. Vera Solomon: Okay. Diane White: Something else? Vera Solomon: No. There this is the three concepts of Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Vera Solomon: our Diane White: I just have Vera Solomon: controller. Diane White: one question, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: because for the intelligent controller, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: you said that we can use the voice recognition or the gesture recognition, but as the um expert told us, most of the people want to use the remote control to zap t to zap between channels. Vera Solomon: Yeah, Diane White: Do you Vera Solomon: so Diane White: think they will be able to use gestures? Because, Vera Solomon: Y Diane White: if they do all the time the same gesture, as you said previously in the last meeting, maybe they will get injuries because of that? Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: or Wanda Dulle: Maybe. Diane White: if you say channel three channel three two three four six five, I think they will be bored after a while. You don't think so? Vera Solomon: Uh I think some time it's very uh convenient to use voice interface and gesture interface Diane White: Yeah, sure. Vera Solomon: than use button. For example, if you cannot find your Diane White: I Vera Solomon: uh Wanda Dulle: Oh Vera Solomon: controller, Wanda Dulle: yeah, that's a good Vera Solomon: you Diane White: That's Vera Solomon: can Wanda Dulle: that's Vera Solomon: just Wanda Dulle: a Diane White: true. Wanda Dulle: good Vera Solomon: uh Wanda Dulle: point, so. Vera Solomon: just just uh speak something such as, Wanda Dulle: One and Diane White: Yeah, Vera Solomon: yeah, Diane White: but suppose Vera Solomon: one Diane White: you Vera Solomon: two. Diane White: got a cold. You Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: have a mute Ashley Bowman: Mm. Diane White: remote controller. Vera Solomon: So you can use your gesture. That's no problem. Ashley Bowman: Yeah but how how is how Diane White: Broken Ashley Bowman: risky Diane White: arm? Ashley Bowman: is it to trust like speech recognition or gesture recognition? Vera Solomon: For limited vocabulary speech recognition is Ashley Bowman: Okay. Vera Solomon: very reliable Ashley Bowman: Okay. Vera Solomon: and for s limited vocabulary gesture recognition is also Diane White: Yeah, Vera Solomon: very Diane White: but suppose you have a family watching T_V_, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: and if they want to use Wanda Dulle: Yep. Diane White: their private remote control in the same time, do you think it will work? Everybody wanting to change channel Ashley Bowman: But this Diane White: in the same Ashley Bowman: this Diane White: time? Ashley Bowman: but this would never happen anyway. Vera Solomon: Yeah, they cannot Diane White: Why? Vera Solomon: speak at the same time. Ashley Bowman: Yeah Diane White: If you have one brother and one sister and they want to Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Diane White: watch Ashley Bowman: but the Diane White: their favourite uh T_V_ programme, so they say oh channel four channel three channel four channel Wanda Dulle: Yeah Diane White: three Vera Solomon: Yeah, Wanda Dulle: but Vera Solomon: it's Ashley Bowman: Yeah Vera Solomon: very Ashley Bowman: but Diane White: all Ashley Bowman: this Vera Solomon: interesting. Diane White: the time, Wanda Dulle: Yeah Diane White: so. Wanda Dulle: but the same can happen even with it you know this Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: kind of remote control because Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: I don't think Wanda Dulle: the Diane White: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: it Diane White: but you have the remote control, so maybe you Wanda Dulle: That's Diane White: can keep Wanda Dulle: right. Diane White: it f with you. You're not you're not obliged Ashley Bowman: Oh, Diane White: to Ashley Bowman: okay, Diane White: share Ashley Bowman: okay, Diane White: it. Ashley Bowman: you mean it could be a problem for Diane White: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: this Diane White: we can Ashley Bowman: kind Vera Solomon: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: of Vera Solomon: that's Ashley Bowman: stuff. Diane White: yeah. Vera Solomon: that's the advantage of intelligent controller. Even you h Ashley Bowman: No. Vera Solomon: you have the controller, I can Wanda Dulle: It's Vera Solomon: I can say Wanda Dulle: it's Vera Solomon: channel three, so it's c come Ashley Bowman: No, but Vera Solomon: to Ashley Bowman: this Vera Solomon: channel Ashley Bowman: is disadvant Vera Solomon: three, I don't have Ashley Bowman: disadvantage. Vera Solomon: to Diane White: Yeah, I think it's a disadvantage. Vera Solomon: It's Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Vera Solomon: advantage. Wanda Dulle: And mayb maybe we can have the switching mode to pass from you know voice controller to Diane White: Yeah, but one Wanda Dulle: manual Diane White: other question. Wanda Dulle: controllers, Diane White: How Wanda Dulle: eh. Diane White: how much will it cost? Wanda Dulle: No, more Vera Solomon: How Wanda Dulle: expensive Vera Solomon: much? Wanda Dulle: maybe. Diane White: Yeah. Because I suppose we need to do research to have something working. Vera Solomon: No no we we d we we just Ashley Bowman: Uh if Vera Solomon: are Ashley Bowman: you if Vera Solomon: use Diane White: Some Vera Solomon: um Ashley Bowman: if Diane White: some Ashley Bowman: you Diane White: efficient. Ashley Bowman: use the basic Vera Solomon: No no we just um have some cooperation with some research institute, we don't have to do some basic research on this Diane White: So Vera Solomon: field. Diane White: you think it won't cost an Not a lot for us? Or? Vera Solomon: Yeah, I think it's uh because uh this technology is uh um for limited wor or limited wor uh lexical recognition, it's very Diane White: Yeah, but uh uh Vera Solomon: it's uh yeah. Ashley Bowman: But it's Vera Solomon: It's Ashley Bowman: it's changing how the remote control is gonna be built. Because then you need uh I mean this doesn't have uh the power to do recognition, for example. Wanda Dulle: Well y y Vera Solomon: No it's Wanda Dulle: you have Vera Solomon: uh Wanda Dulle: also the language Vera Solomon: Even Wanda Dulle: problem, Vera Solomon: for Wanda Dulle: you Vera Solomon: the Wanda Dulle: know when Vera Solomon: f Wanda Dulle: you Vera Solomon: um Diane White: Mm-mm. Vera Solomon: because Wanda Dulle: 'Cause Vera Solomon: the Wanda Dulle: it Vera Solomon: the vocabulary Wanda Dulle: it have to be universal, Vera Solomon: the Wanda Dulle: so. Diane White: Yeah. I Vera Solomon: The Diane White: agree Vera Solomon: vocabulary Diane White: with uh Vera Solomon: is very small, so Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Vera Solomon: that's Diane White: Yeah, Vera Solomon: not a problem. Diane White: but there is one problem that uh Baba Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: talked about is the international remote control. We need something that is international. Suppose we're we want to sell it in France. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: The recognition system will be able to understand French. If you want to go to England, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: it will be able to understand English, so. Vera Solomon: Yeah, the key, the key Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Vera Solomon: um Ashley Bowman: this could be downloaded by the web Vera Solomon: the Ashley Bowman: maybe, Vera Solomon: key of Ashley Bowman: or Vera Solomon: our the key feature of our controller is that it's it has some some um adaptation Wanda Dulle: Yeah Vera Solomon: mechanism. Wanda Dulle: but you know. The Vera Solomon: It's Wanda Dulle: product Vera Solomon: It's Wanda Dulle: The pro Vera Solomon: it means when you when you sell this controller in China it's can recognise Chinese. It's r if you sell this controller in France Wanda Dulle: It's Vera Solomon: it Wanda Dulle: a very Vera Solomon: can Wanda Dulle: smart, Vera Solomon: recognise French. Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: it's a Diane White: Mm, Wanda Dulle: very smart Diane White: okay. Wanda Dulle: controller maybe Vera Solomon: Yeah, it's Diane White: And with no increase in the pri production price Wanda Dulle: Oh yeah Diane White: of the Wanda Dulle: yeah Diane White: remote Wanda Dulle: yeah yeah. Diane White: control? Vera Solomon: Because Wanda Dulle: But Vera Solomon: of this product uh this technology has already been developed. Diane White: Yeah, Vera Solomon: So Diane White: but how will Wanda Dulle: Yeah Diane White: you Wanda Dulle: but the problem is how to s you know if this is a push button controller, you Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: can send this con this remote control everywhere in the world, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: the same one. Ashley Bowman: Mm. Wanda Dulle: If you have the language, you have to Vera Solomon: Oh n Wanda Dulle: develop Vera Solomon: Yeah, yeah tha Wanda Dulle: for Vera Solomon: that's Wanda Dulle: each Vera Solomon: why Wanda Dulle: country. Vera Solomon: we have to do language adaptation. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, but for each country you have to do one, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: because uh the for example Vera Solomon: Even Wanda Dulle: for Se Vera Solomon: for each f for even for different family we have to do d Wanda Dulle: Oh really? Vera Solomon: yeah we would we Wanda Dulle: That's Vera Solomon: have to do adaptation to Diane White: Oh. Ashley Bowman: Yeah, but then Diane White: Seems Ashley Bowman: w Diane White: to be quite complex. Ashley Bowman: Yeah, we have to Wanda Dulle: Comple Vera Solomon: No, Ashley Bowman: take Vera Solomon: it's not Ashley Bowman: care Vera Solomon: so Ashley Bowman: of the Vera Solomon: complex. Ashley Bowman: twelve Euros problem. Diane White: And what about voice recognition, do we have microphones? And where will be they? Do you think Vera Solomon: No no Diane White: if Vera Solomon: no Diane White: we're Vera Solomon: it's Diane White: far Vera Solomon: not Diane White: from television it will work? Vera Solomon: I think that's n that's not a problem because you you don't have to wear a microphone. It it just the microphone is embedded in the controller. Diane White: Yeah, but where is the controller? Ashley Bowman: Okay. Vera Solomon: Where is the controller? Diane White: Yeah. Vera Solomon: It's in your family, in your home. Ashley Bowman: No, but Diane White: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: then it's Diane White: but Ashley Bowman: it's Diane White: we're Ashley Bowman: like this Diane White: here it's uh Ashley Bowman: uh Diane White: an object. But Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: here you say you want to use i uh Vera Solomon: Yeah you can Diane White: s Vera Solomon: you Diane White: technology. Vera Solomon: can embed it uh Wanda Dulle: A microphone Vera Solomon: microphone Wanda Dulle: maybe. Vera Solomon: here. Diane White: Yeah, but wha what is the use of voice or gesture recognition if you have a remote control li like this, if you have an object. If you want to use voice or gesture you need to be Wanda Dulle: To talk Diane White: free, Wanda Dulle: to the to the T_V_ Diane White: without any Wanda Dulle: maybe. Diane White: object. You just want to interact Vera Solomon: Yeah yeah just Diane White: with Vera Solomon: you Diane White: television. Vera Solomon: just put the controller here, then you Wanda Dulle: I if you say Vera Solomon: you Wanda Dulle: one, Vera Solomon: use Wanda Dulle: he switch Vera Solomon: your command Wanda Dulle: to channel, yeah. Vera Solomon: and you do s your gesture. Diane White: Yeah, but you can lose it. Vera Solomon: No no it's n y if you lose it Wanda Dulle: So well for example if it is somewhere in the room if i maybe if it is in the table there you can always say s channel one and the t the remote control gives the order to the T_V_ Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: to switch to channel Diane White: Okay Wanda Dulle: one. Diane White: you so you can build a kind of Wanda Dulle: Devic Diane White: black box and put it Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Diane White: on T_V_ and Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: just to recognize Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: gestures and voice. Wanda Dulle: Yeah but so you need a camera and you know a microphone Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: Ah. Wanda Dulle: inside your remote control. Ashley Bowman: But you would still have the buttons. Or is it do you think it should be only voice recognition and gesture recognition? Or you you still have the possibility to use buttons? Vera Solomon: I think it we should give the uh flexibility to the user Ashley Bowman: Okay, Vera Solomon: and Ashley Bowman: so Vera Solomon: we Ashley Bowman: you Vera Solomon: think yeah. Ashley Bowman: yeah. Diane White: Yeah, Vera Solomon: You can see they can switch form one modality to another. Diane White: Mm. Ashley Bowman: Yeah, I dunno. It's a bit risky risky. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: I Vera Solomon: No, Diane White: think so. Vera Solomon: that's Diane White: And Vera Solomon: quite Diane White: maybe Vera Solomon: inter Diane White: it will be quite Vera Solomon: quite attractive. Wanda Dulle: But I think that, you know, switching from one country to to another will be a problem, so although y y Vera Solomon: Well, if you do language adaptation, there should be no problem. Wanda Dulle: Yeah but Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Wanda Dulle: i i Ashley Bowman: I dunno. Diane White: Okay. Vera Solomon: We should have confidence in technology. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, we should. Uh. Diane White: Hmm. So, what do you think? We'll try the controllers you'd prefer. Wanda Dulle: Mm. Ashley Bowman: What? Diane White: Which kind of controller would you prefer to use, you as a Ashley Bowman: If Diane White: remote Ashley Bowman: if Diane White: control user? Ashley Bowman: I mean, uh I'm sure if the user pays the same price, he's happy to have recognition. Vera Solomon: More features, yeah. Ashley Bowman: But Wanda Dulle: Yeah, but Ashley Bowman: if if if it like doubles uh Wanda Dulle: I think he Ashley Bowman: no Wanda Dulle: need Ashley Bowman: one would Wanda Dulle: a control Ashley Bowman: would be interested. Wanda Dulle: that is very reliable, so. Diane White: So I think it would be better not to do any intelligent controller and to stay with the Google controller or a fancy controller. Maybe try to mix the Google controller and the fancy controller? Hmm? Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Yeah. Diane White: Just want to have something controller which is in a kind of intelligent controller, easy to use, sophisticated and fancy. Vera Solomon: Yeah Diane White: You Vera Solomon: but Diane White: think Vera Solomon: if Diane White: it's possible? Vera Solomon: if you stick to um stick to the first two parts. So what's the difference between our controller with other products in the market? There's no k features of our controller, so is there is there any necessary to design new controller without Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Vera Solomon: any breakthrough features? Ashley Bowman: No, I mean Vera Solomon: Would y would you replace your controller with a controller with similar function if you Wanda Dulle: It's Vera Solomon: do not Ashley Bowman: Y Wanda Dulle: not really Vera Solomon: have some Wanda Dulle: the we Vera Solomon: some function Wanda Dulle: we can Vera Solomon: inside Wanda Dulle: add for Vera Solomon: it Wanda Dulle: example Vera Solomon: that Wanda Dulle: some function like for browsing in internet, so or something like that. But uh I think a user need Vera Solomon: Yeah, you y that's a fun that's not the function of the controller, that's a function of T_V_. can replace your T_V_ with a new T_V_ with internet browsing Ashley Bowman: No, Vera Solomon: function, Ashley Bowman: but you need Vera Solomon: but Ashley Bowman: you need new remote controller then. Because if you wanna browse internet or, Wanda Dulle: Don't have Ashley Bowman: I don't know, Wanda Dulle: a the Ashley Bowman: if you Wanda Dulle: the Ashley Bowman: wanna type something, or Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: Yeah if we can send email from Vera Solomon: But Wanda Dulle: it. Vera Solomon: it's not the only the problem only the Ashley Bowman: No. Vera Solomon: issue of controller, it's Ashley Bowman: No. Vera Solomon: it's also the issue of the T_V_. Wanda Dulle: Because the p the problem I can see with with the voice or the gesture itself wh Ashley Bowman: Cause Wanda Dulle: what Ashley Bowman: for example Wanda Dulle: can happen in a Ashley Bowman: yeah. Wanda Dulle: family i i for example Vera Solomon: Yeah, Wanda Dulle: if Vera Solomon: but we do we do we we we cannot rely one hundred percent on these features Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Vera Solomon: to u to use the controller, Diane White: Yeah, but Vera Solomon: but Diane White: uh we want Vera Solomon: with the Diane White: so Vera Solomon: features of our controller such as you have the feature of voice recognition in your mobile but you seldom use it, your mobile, but you when you choose a new mobile, Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Vera Solomon: you Ashley Bowman: you wou Vera Solomon: choose Ashley Bowman: you would Vera Solomon: the one with voice recognition. Ashley Bowman: True. Vera Solomon: That's the feature is not one hundred percent reliable, but it's a feature to distinguish our product from our from other products. Diane White: Yeah, but Wanda Dulle: Yeah Diane White: w we we want something th that works all the time, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: every day, every hour, Vera Solomon: Yeah, Diane White: for Vera Solomon: uh Wanda Dulle: And for Diane White: everyone. Wanda Dulle: all the person of the family maybe, Vera Solomon: Yeah, if Diane White: You Wanda Dulle: so, Vera Solomon: if Diane White: don't Wanda Dulle: yeah. Diane White: need Vera Solomon: if Diane White: to Vera Solomon: if Diane White: tune Vera Solomon: you're if you Diane White: it. Vera Solomon: ar if you already have a product it works one hundred percent reliable, would you replace it with another one? Diane White: Yeah, why not? Ashley Bowman: I Diane White: If Ashley Bowman: mean, Diane White: it's Ashley Bowman: for example the goo y Wanda Dulle: Because Ashley Bowman: you Wanda Dulle: you have Ashley Bowman: say Wanda Dulle: new Ashley Bowman: we would we would to have a Google-like Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: controller. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: I don't see how adding speech or gesture recognition would make the remote control look more like Google. Google is is simple, works fine, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: so I I guess if can have a remote control that is really basic, simple and works fine, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: it's already a lot. Vera Solomon: Oh yes, but Ashley Bowman: Uh Vera Solomon: there's Ashley Bowman: thi Vera Solomon: no Ashley Bowman: this Vera Solomon: big difference between the traditional controller. Ashley Bowman: I mean, the user is not only interested in having speech or gesture recognition or Vera Solomon: The then Ashley Bowman: if he has Vera Solomon: nn no. Ashley Bowman: something Vera Solomon: Tha Ashley Bowman: that works fine and is really fancy, looks nice and Diane White: Not Vera Solomon: But Diane White: too Vera Solomon: the Ashley Bowman: it's Diane White: expensive Vera Solomon: there's Ashley Bowman: easy easy Vera Solomon: there's Diane White: too. Ashley Bowman: to Vera Solomon: n Ashley Bowman: use, Vera Solomon: there's n Ashley Bowman: easy Vera Solomon: not Ashley Bowman: to use. Vera Solomon: enough motivation for them to replace their old controller with a new one Ashley Bowman: See Vera Solomon: if there's no key feature in the new controller. Ashley Bowman: That's the Vera Solomon: That's Ashley Bowman: problem, Vera Solomon: the same yeah. Ashley Bowman: yeah. I mean, I I know it's more interesting to develop a remote controller with speech and gesture and whatever. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: But you have to think, Wanda Dulle: Ye Ashley Bowman: the user is the one who gonna buy the product and Vera Solomon: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: so. Diane White: Okay. Ashley Bowman: I mean, that's Diane White: So Ashley Bowman: the point. Diane White: let's go to Wanda Dulle. Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: Maybe we'll be able to take a decision after that, Wanda Dulle: Okay. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: so. Two? Wanda Dulle: Yeah, participant two um Diane White: Working? Wanda Dulle: Yeah, working design, so. So I think Diane White: I can Wanda Dulle: Can you go to the next one? I uh it's not this one. It's uh Diane White: Okay. Wanda Dulle: oth the oth so I It's the working design. Sorry. Component Diane White: It's Wanda Dulle: design. Diane White: okay Wanda Dulle: So this yeah so this is the described use What? Are you inst Diane White: Uh I think there's something wrong with your Vera Solomon: It did didn't r receive it. Didn't Diane White: Maybe you Vera Solomon: receive it. Diane White: you record it somewhere else. Wanda Dulle: I don't think so. Vera Solomon: Participant one. Participant one. Diane White: Interface concept. No. Ashley Bowman: Hmm. Diane White: Mm mm. Wanda Dulle: Oh. Maybe I record recorded directly on the Computer. Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Diane White: Uh. Ashley Bowman: Dunno. Diane White: Nope. Wanda Dulle: Okay, okay. Yes. Diane White: It seems that we have a problem with the Ashley Bowman: I dunno if you remember what you had to say or Wanda Dulle: I can say it to you without. Diane White: Yeah, so Vera Solomon: Yeah, maybe we can first come to Diane White: No, I think it will be more interesting Vera Solomon: uh Diane White: to Vera Solomon: to Frahan. Diane White: start with uh Vera Solomon: With Frahan, Ashley Bowman: I think it's Vera Solomon: then Ashley Bowman: more Vera Solomon: you Ashley Bowman: interesting Vera Solomon: can prepare Ashley Bowman: what Vera Solomon: your slides, Ashley Bowman: he says, okay. Vera Solomon: then present Diane White: Yeah. Vera Solomon: it later. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, exac Okay. Diane White: I think it will be interesting after your Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: presentation Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Diane White: to have Ashley Bowman: true. Diane White: um Baba's presentation. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: In fact, I don't Diane White: So. Wanda Dulle: know, I s Diane White: Okay. Wanda Dulle: because i in my presentation I don't have here with so Diane White: Okay, never Wanda Dulle: It Diane White: mind. Wanda Dulle: was in fact the design use to show you the design of what is inside Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: a what is inside and what are the different component of the r of the remote control. Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: So it will be interesting so I could show you some some picture Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: of what is inside and so. So I in fact the the f something I want to discuss is which kind of material are we going to use, so Diane White: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: will it will be wooden wooden di wooden remote control or a a plastic remote control like this one. So and in which which which kind will be the the different bu button, Diane White: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: so it can be some, you know, classic pushbutton like this one, or you have also some button like L_C_D_ where you know, Vera Solomon: Mm-hmm. Diane White: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: the button the buttons are unlighted during the night, or, you know, you can Diane White: Okay. Wanda Dulle: see them in the darkness. Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: And the other thing I want to discuss also is which kind of alimentation, electric alimentation do you want to have, so will it be for example uh d uh solar energy alimentation Vera Solomon: Uh-huh. Wanda Dulle: or will it be a battery like the classical battery so. And I think that for example for the alimentation it would be good to have uh both of them, so so for example in some country where you are in the the countryside and you are far from, you know, the cities uh Vera Solomon: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: for example in some place in in S Senegal, so if you have electric if you have solar Vera Solomon: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: alimentation, you just, when you want to have recharger or remote control power you just put it on the sun and after one hour you can come and so it can be interesting for people to have this kind of remote con It can be something interesting to make people buy it, for example. Diane White: Yeah, I think it's an Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: added value to the remote control Wanda Dulle: Yeah, yeah Diane White: and maybe Wanda Dulle: mm. Diane White: it can attract all the ecological Wanda Dulle: yeah, Diane White: k Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: yeah, Diane White: yeah Wanda Dulle: yeah, Diane White: consumers Wanda Dulle: yeah, Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: yeah. Diane White: and but about the the price of adding this solar battery, would it be something really that will increase the price of production more, no? Wanda Dulle: Alrigh In fact, having them both will if we want to have battery, regular battery and and the solar energy battery it could be it'll it will add a little bit of the price, Diane White: So. Wanda Dulle: but it will be an added value also that will be Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: compensated, Diane White: Okay. Wanda Dulle: so hmm. Diane White: And what tha what about the uh materials? Wanda Dulle: And the materials, it depends for example you if you have a wooden material it can be more the plastic material is more common it's Diane White: Impersonal, Wanda Dulle: very resistant but, Diane White: mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: you know, something wooden will be like, I don't know Diane White: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: Special Wanda Dulle: high Ashley Bowman: for Wanda Dulle: cl so a special high class, or you know, Ashley Bowman: Mm-hmm. Diane White: Yeah, and Wanda Dulle: you Diane White: i Wanda Dulle: can have some Diane White: if you we want to put fashion in electronics maybe we can try to do something with wood. Vera Solomon: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, even Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: if it is not completely wood, but just a part of the, you Diane White: Mm-hmm. Wanda Dulle: know, will be wooden, in wood Diane White: Mm. Wanda Dulle: and it can be interesting. Diane White: Mm okay, seems Wanda Dulle: And Diane White: to be interesting, Wanda Dulle: so Diane White: mm. Wanda Dulle: the last point is y also would do you want to have some very cheap integrated cir circuits, chips, or do you have low level or or very very expensive, it depends, but I think that low level will be, you know, it is an interim module. Diane White: Yeah, we want something easy to use and Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: so I think maybe something very low level wou Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Yeah, Diane White: would be enough. Wanda Dulle: yeah. Diane White: And you think that we will be Wanda Dulle: Yeah, I think it will fit on the price we want, twel Diane White: Okay. Wanda Dulle: twelve Euros, so. Diane White: So wood. And what about the buttons? Wanda Dulle: I think the buttons I pr I prefer, you know, the L_C_D_ you know lighted buttons because, you know, it's I don't know Diane White: No it's fashion, Wanda Dulle: um yeah, in the Diane White: yeah. Wanda Dulle: dark, it's fashion and it's related to how beautiful it is or uh if you want to watch T_V_ in the darkness or if you want to lo find your find your your remote control that is lost, you know in the darkness it's very easy so, right. Ashley Bowman: What about the touch scr touch screen? For example. It's it's expensive I I guess. Wanda Dulle: I think a touch screen will be t as expensive as the L_C_D_ buttons so. Ashley Bowman: Mm. Wanda Dulle: But And it is a kind of other design, I mean. It can Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: also be interesting to have this kind of Vera Solomon: So you got email? Diane White: I dunno. I think we have only uh five minutes left. Ashley Bowman: Okay. Diane White: Participant four? Functional requirements? Ashley Bowman: Uh no, trend watching. The other one. Diane White: This one? Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Uh, I think so, just Yeah, so just to meet the user requirements I would just do a s short anal analysis of the remote control market and to kind of um have a better overview of what's the fashion in general I've checked more than only the remote control market, so next. So again, it's pretty much similar to what I've said in the previous meeting. Um user really really want a fancy look and feel. They're not so so interested in uh functional look and feel, okay. Like the one you've shown, David, Vera Solomon: Mm. Ashley Bowman: with all the buttons and I Wanda Dulle: Mm. Ashley Bowman: mean i i it sounds good technically but it's it's not what they want and uh So, second point is they still want it it to be technologically innovative, so maybe it's sort of related to what you've said with the speech recognition and so on. Diane White: Okay. Ashley Bowman: At the same time, it's important that it's easy to use. So that were the three first points from the remote control uh analysis. Now i if we look at fashion in general um Okay. Wha what we really see this year is that uh everything from clothes to shoes and furniture is is inspired by fruits and vegetables, okay, Wanda Dulle: Ah yes. Ashley Bowman: so I think we really have to take this into account for the design of the Wanda Dulle: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: the thing. Wanda Dulle: yeah. Okay, yeah. Ashley Bowman: 'Cause it's it's really what people want. Even if it's in general fashion, we want it to be in the remote control. And then uh if if we take the ordering or the ranking of all the points, fancy look and feel has, on a score of seven would have six as importance. Uh the remote control has to be technologically innovative, it's three. Then easy to use uh it's not so important actually with respect to other y other ones. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Ashley Bowman: So we see fancy look an look and feel is the most important one, uh from Milan and Paris Wanda Dulle: And fruit and vegetables yeah. Ashley Bowman: we go to the fruits and vede vegetables. And the other point I haven't mention is people wan want to have a spongy Wanda Dulle: Spongy Ashley Bowman: touch, okay Wanda Dulle: 'Kay. Ashley Bowman: so this is this maybe doesn't really fit with the wooden design. Wanda Dulle: Okay, yeah, yeah. Ashley Bowman: I dunno. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, but the problem is which kind of material do you need to to be spongy? Ashley Bowman: Yeah thi this is this would be like um Wanda Dulle: Pla Ashley Bowman: plastic-like, Wanda Dulle: S Ashley Bowman: but Wanda Dulle: Very stuff Ashley Bowman: rubber, mayb Wanda Dulle: Okay, Ashley Bowman: maybe, Wanda Dulle: rubber Ashley Bowman: you Wanda Dulle: rubber Ashley Bowman: know, rubber-like Wanda Dulle: desi okay, yeah. Ashley Bowman: uh Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: device, so um Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: Okay, tha tha that was the main point, I think, from the trend in fashion. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: So we have to take decisions about the component concepts, about the energy. So, as you say you want something technologically innovative, Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: maybe using Wanda Dulle: Solar. Diane White: solar energy and Ashley Bowman: Yeah, so when I think it's Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: with battery would be something interesting, maybe will attract Ashley Bowman: Mm-hmm Wanda Dulle: Yeah. It will be a Diane White: pro-ecology consumers. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: Uh cheap imprint so you s you propose low level Wanda Dulle: Yeah, I Diane White: chips Wanda Dulle: think Diane White: would be uh enough to have something Wanda Dulle: Yeah, yeah. Diane White: working well. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: Case. Vera Solomon: Later? Diane White: So you think case. Something spongy. Someth no wood. Wanda Dulle: No wood but Ashley Bowman: Maybe not no Wanda Dulle: Plastic? Ashley Bowman: wood, but I mean Wanda Dulle: Would some Ashley Bowman: ma maybe not the part you Vera Solomon: Pla Ashley Bowman: touching you Diane White: Maybe Ashley Bowman: know. Wanda Dulle: I think Diane White: you Wanda Dulle: we can have wood for example in the bottom and, you Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Wanda Dulle: know. Ashley Bowman: maybe Wanda Dulle: It depends Ashley Bowman: the base. Wanda Dulle: on the design we want, so. Diane White: It's Ashley Bowman: But still y Diane White: it's natural. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Diane White: Th Wanda Dulle: it's natural Diane White: The feeling Wanda Dulle: and i Diane White: is natural, so maybe we can stay with wood. Wanda Dulle: And it can be correlated to energy, solar energy, so for the marketing aspect, you know, saying Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Wanda Dulle: that Ashley Bowman: I mean Wanda Dulle: it's Ashley Bowman: it's not Wanda Dulle: ecol Ashley Bowman: exactly right for the spongy Wanda Dulle: Mm, Ashley Bowman: point Wanda Dulle: yeah, Ashley Bowman: of view. Wanda Dulle: it's not right, so. Diane White: But it's still fashion. Ashley Bowman: But we could maybe have both like part of wood and some rubber for the buttons, or Wanda Dulle: Okay. Ashley Bowman: I Diane White: Yeah, Ashley Bowman: dunno. Diane White: something that you can Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Diane White: into it. Uh and what about the user interface concept? Wanda Dulle: Google and Diane White: Google and fancy? Wanda Dulle: and fancy, f how about the the voice? Diane White: Because Wanda Dulle: And Diane White: I think that with the voice and gesture recognition there are still some disadvantages with this. Vera Solomon: Uh Wanda Dulle: Uh Vera Solomon: yes. Wanda Dulle: maybe we can do some marketing studies asking people if they're interested and how It It is an an interesting concept to see to have Ashley Bowman: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: uh Vera Solomon: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: voice control. Vera Solomon: Yeah. The smart Wanda Dulle: Mm. Vera Solomon: controller. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. But and the problem is I I'm we can infer i if you have v voice control why not to put it directly on the the T_V_, so speak directly to the T_V_ and you don't need a remote control actually, so. Diane White: Yeah, but you need a receiver to recognize the gestures and the voice. Wanda Dulle: But it will be embedded on the T_V_ and not on the remote control, so. Diane White: That's Ashley Bowman: Yeah Diane White: true. Ashley Bowman: d Vera Solomon: Okay. Ashley Bowman: I dunno. Diane White: So maybe we'll just focus on the Google controller plus the Vera Solomon: Mm. Diane White: fancy controller, maybe try to mix them these two concepts together, just in one and do a remote control with solar energy Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: and batteries and with lev low level chips and wood. Vera Solomon: It's good. Diane White: And L_C_D_ buttons. Wanda Dulle: Yeah, L_C_D_. Diane White: Yeah, I think for these supplements the solar energy would be something quite interesting and not maybe too difficult Wanda Dulle: Yeah, Diane White: to add. Wanda Dulle: yeah, yeah. And pf what can we think a supplement to Ashley Bowman: What interface? Diane White: Yeah, for the interface something added value. Wanda Dulle: I think the supplement can be the voice. It is just, you know, it is not the most important, but it can be a part of Diane White: With a module? You mean the remote control with a mur module if you want you can Wanda Dulle: Yeah, Diane White: just use Wanda Dulle: yeah. Diane White: commands, words Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: and Wanda Dulle: Mm. Diane White: use them Vera Solomon: Mm-hmm. Diane White: when you don't want to use Wanda Dulle: To Diane White: your Wanda Dulle: push Diane White: fingers. Wanda Dulle: button, yeah, yeah. Even it is for s just some kids, you know, switching channels one two three four. Diane White: Turning the T_V_ Wanda Dulle: Yeah, Diane White: o Wanda Dulle: turning Diane White: on o Wanda Dulle: yeah, Diane White: or off. Wanda Dulle: yeah. Not very complex commands, but easy commands, so. Diane White: So, adding some vocal commands. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: Simple ones? Wanda Dulle: Yeah, simple ones for Diane White: Okay. So the next meeting will start in thirty meeti minutes so we'll you will all have to work in in your direction. So you will have to work on the look and feel design, Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: to have the easy to use, powerful and fancy remote control Vera Solomon: Yep. Diane White: with some added value such as the uh simple vocal commands recognition. Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: Uh you will have to work more, Baba, on the um spongy way to to add spongy um Wanda Dulle: expensive Diane White: touch Wanda Dulle: buttons Diane White: to the buttons Wanda Dulle: Yeah, to make some Diane White: and Wanda Dulle: new Diane White: try to find maybe a nice shape for the wooden remote control. Wanda Dulle: Yeah. Diane White: And I sup I think we'll have to evaluate th the product Ashley Bowman: Yeah, Diane White: too. Ashley Bowman: no not forgetting about the fruits and vegetables Diane White: Yeah. Wanda Dulle: Okay, fruits. Ashley Bowman: trends. Diane White: Yeah. Ashley Bowman: If possible. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: And remember as as I said last meeting, we really have to build a fashion remote control and uh the colour of the um the society will be really Wanda Dulle: Need it to be, okay. Diane White: it will be seen in the remote control. So you will have Baba and David Jordan you will have to work together on the prototype Vera Solomon: Yeah. Diane White: and you will have next time to show us um modelling a cl a clay remote control, so Vera Solomon: Okay. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: you will have to model model something. Vera Solomon: Yep Diane White: And I think that some specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. Wanda Dulle: Okay. Diane White: So, Vera Solomon: Okay. Diane White: no more questions, we can close the session. Ashley Bowman: Hmm. Wanda Dulle: Sounds good, mm-hmm. Ashley Bowman: Okay. Diane White: Yeah. Vera Solomon: Okay. Diane White: Okay, cool.	Vera Solomon presented three different concepts to consider for the user interface and introduced the idea of using speech recognition in the design of the remote. The team discussed the issue of using speech recognition at length. Wanda Dulle presented possible materials to use in making the case for the remote, introduced the option of using a solar battery, and discussed options for buttons. The Marketing Specialist discussed recent findings from trend watching reports. The team discussed what materials to use and their interface concept.	4	amisum	train
Elaine Gonzales: Okay everybody is ready? Good morning again So. today we are going to have a f second meeting. Oh Michael, Joyce Hernandez: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: hi. You're late. You have a good reason for that? Joyce Hernandez: Yes. Elaine Gonzales: Very good. Okay, let's have a look to the agenda today. So, we are going to have a meeting about the functional design. Um so first before starting I w just going to uh to go quickly to through the minutes of previous meeting. So uh we we are not decided if w we should go for a universal or specific uh uh remote control, but I have new um new i inputs for about that topics. I goin I'm going to share with you. And uh basically we decided to um to uh go to individual actions for each of you uh so um Industrial Designer should wor was supposed to work on th on th on the working design. Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: You showed us you ar you you prepare Crystal Putnam: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: something for us? Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: The U_I_ guy also uh work on that, yeah, and for the mar Joyce Hernandez: Mm. Elaine Gonzales: our Marketing Expert should deliver some specs. Alright so so we are going to go through three of your individual presentations. But first I would like quickly to uh to decide of to give a name to the project. So, I just put d quickly Remo, but if you have any o other names that we co could decide for just to to keep something fun for our project we we should we could discuss quickly. Any ideas? Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: Uh the Powerstick Elaine Gonzales: Powerstick, yeah. What else? What else? Jessica Thomas: Uh. Joyce Hernandez: Maybe a Spanish name Jessica Thomas: Mm Joyce Hernandez: would Jessica Thomas: I Joyce Hernandez: work Jessica Thomas: was Joyce Hernandez: well. Jessica Thomas: thinking Joyce Hernandez: Especially Jessica Thomas: of Joyce Hernandez: if we're selling Jessica Thomas: the Joyce Hernandez: into the U_S_ market becasue there's a lot of Spanish speakers there. Maybe something that sounds cool in English but sounds funny in Spanish. Jessica Thomas: Mando. Joyce Hernandez: Mando. What Elaine Gonzales: Mango? Joyce Hernandez: is that? Elaine Gonzales: Mango? Jessica Thomas: Mando. Elaine Gonzales: Mando. M_A_? M_A_? Jessica Thomas: A_N_ yeah D_O. Elaine Gonzales: M_ D_O_. Mm, okay. Jessica Thomas: It doesn't it doesn't sound Elaine Gonzales: What does it mean? Jessica Thomas: cool for Jessica Thomas, but Elaine Gonzales: Oh. Jessica Thomas: maybe for a Spanish for I for Joyce Hernandez: What does it mean in Spanish? Jessica Thomas: Control. Joyce Hernandez: Control. Elaine Gonzales: Hmm. Joyce Hernandez: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: Nice. Joyce Hernandez: 'Cause it also like in English it sounds like you know the man's tool you know because you know Jessica Thomas: But Joyce Hernandez: men Jessica Thomas: mm, Joyce Hernandez: like to have control Jessica Thomas: yeah. Joyce Hernandez: of the remote so it Jessica Thomas: Mando Joyce Hernandez: might Jessica Thomas: sounds Latino. Joyce Hernandez: The Mando. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. So, let's go for Mando? Yeah? Crystal Putnam: Yeah, Elaine Gonzales: No objection? Crystal Putnam: yeah. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah that's. Elaine Gonzales: Great. Joyce Hernandez: And Elaine Gonzales: So Joyce Hernandez: we could have some like you d you could have the fonts you know special, so you have man in like in in uh in one o in one font and then the O_ as like Elaine Gonzales: Okay, I think Joyce Hernandez: Although Elaine Gonzales: this Joyce Hernandez: you don't Elaine Gonzales: is Joyce Hernandez: wanna cut uh cut women out of Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Joyce Hernandez: the uh potential buyers though, do you? So Crystal Putnam: Yeah they are the most T_V_ watcher. So we should be careful. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: Okay, I think this is more a question of Jessica Thomas: But yeah Joyce Hernandez: Marketing. Elaine Gonzales: of Jessica Thomas: it Elaine Gonzales: I Jessica Thomas: uh Elaine Gonzales: I think this is more a question of of look and feel. Something that should be addressed later. We should Jessica Thomas: Yeah Elaine Gonzales: we should go to Jessica Thomas: because Elaine Gonzales: other Jessica Thomas: if the product Elaine Gonzales: for the other topics. Jessica Thomas: will be international Joyce Hernandez: Well that's the thing. We need to know who we're selling it to before we can really decide on a Elaine Gonzales: Yeah okay, so Joyce Hernandez: Um. Elaine Gonzales: let's stick f to Man Mando for the name and we'll see for the for the look and feel later. So let's go for the three presentations right now. So, who want to start? Jessica Thomas: Maybe Elaine Gonzales: So Jessica Thomas: maybe Elaine Gonzales: maybe Jessica Thomas: I Elaine Gonzales: we Jessica Thomas: should Elaine Gonzales: could Jessica Thomas: uh start. Elaine Gonzales: start with the market, yeah. Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Mm. Okay. Elaine Gonzales: Okay so I have your slides somewhere? Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Should be in participant four. Elaine Gonzales: Participant four. Jessica Thomas: Yeah, Elaine Gonzales: This one? Jessica Thomas: yeah. Jessica Thomas: Uh. Elaine Gonzales: S that's coming. Uh Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: okay. Great. Jessica Thomas: Okay so yeah will I will give a brief outline about what I what I prepared for this meeting. Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Jessica Thomas: For the functional requirements and especially for the for the user requirements. I prepare a marketing report and we have to find the weaknesses and and the the improvements we could do to the current remote controls. And also I di I did a study with for the incorporation of new technologies it seems that the remote controls have been have remained the same for the last five, ten years. There is no no significant difference between the the b the first new controls and Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: Sh next slide? Okay. Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Well more most of the people think that remote controls are ugly, thoroughly. So and they they admit that the the they should uh s they would uh spend more money in a fancier remote control, which is which is good and it's interesting point. Also the people are worried about about the R_S_I_ disease, which is if you repeat the sa the same movement, which is not a with a not very appropriate device, you you will have problems whe when you will get old. So s people are uh are worried about the the shape of the of the remote control. They are also they get angry very often because they lost the remote control very often, so I think it would be a good point to to l to to find a a solution to any beep any alarm or something incorporated to with the remote control every time it it get lost. Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Jessica Thomas: And also I found that young people the the younger people are the more interested they are in incorporating new technologies in the in the remote control. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Jessica Thomas: So in my opinion the Mando this Mando shouldn't be very small because the smaller it is, the more like the the liklier it is to get lost. Liklier or more likely? Joyce Hernandez: More likely. Jessica Thomas: likely. Okay. Uh people also complain because they they they all have the same size of the buttons for buttons who w which are not very use like f uh memorising channels or or this kind of actions which are not very often but they they shouldn't they shouldn't have the same importance in the in the uh in the remote cont in the remote control. Also the z the design should fit the hand shape. So it may be interesting to to think in a in both prototypes, for right and left handed people. Joyce Hernandez: Well th the on the thing is though, most remote controls are used by more than one person. So unless you're kind of targeting single people you know you're gonna maybe Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: cut out some a lot of your market. Jessica Thomas: I dunno I th Anyway I think it could be int interesting to to release some a a small fraction of Crystal Putnam: Well Jessica Thomas: of Crystal Putnam: maybe Jessica Thomas: this Crystal Putnam: it could be a Jessica Thomas: remote Crystal Putnam: universal Jessica Thomas: controls. Crystal Putnam: design. Jessica Thomas: Sorry? Crystal Putnam: A universal design, which is which is good for both the hands. Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: Still Crystal Putnam: Yeah? Joyce Hernandez: shaped for yeah for your hand but not for a particular Crystal Putnam: That's right, Joyce Hernandez: hand, Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: right? Crystal Putnam: whether it's left hand or right hand, but but don't you think that the two points are clashing, one thing you are saying design should fit the hand shape and it should not be very small? Jessica Thomas: Sorry? Crystal Putnam: The first and the third point, they are clashing. Joyce Hernandez: Well it can still be a, you can still extend past Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: the hand. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: Okay. Jessica Thomas: Like Joyce Hernandez: Uh. Jessica Thomas: uh Crystal Putnam: So fitting the hand doesn't mean much then. Joyce Hernandez: Well it means like, this remote here is kind of is very thin and long so instead Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm Joyce Hernandez: of having Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: you know you might have it kind of Jessica Thomas: Yeah, Joyce Hernandez: a Jessica Thomas: like Joyce Hernandez: bit bigger or, you know, with maybe some some Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm Joyce Hernandez: finger Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm Joyce Hernandez: molds Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: or something. Crystal Putnam: So it means design should be similar to the traditional ones? Little sleek, longer? Jessica Thomas: No no Crystal Putnam: And Jessica Thomas: I was Crystal Putnam: it should Jessica Thomas: thinking Crystal Putnam: fit Jessica Thomas: of Crystal Putnam: the Jessica Thomas: so Crystal Putnam: hand. Jessica Thomas: like Elaine Gonzales: Something Jessica Thomas: something Elaine Gonzales: with the shape of the palm? Jessica Thomas: yeah. Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: Some Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: finger grips maybe. You could even have some buttons like you know Elaine Gonzales: On Jessica Thomas: Yeah Elaine Gonzales: the sides. Jessica Thomas: yeah. Joyce Hernandez: on Jessica Thomas: It Joyce Hernandez: the sides Jessica Thomas: sh it shouldn't Joyce Hernandez: and everything, Jessica Thomas: it shouldn't Joyce Hernandez: but Jessica Thomas: be symmetric symmetrical. Crystal Putnam: Mm-hm Jessica Thomas: Not Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm Jessica Thomas: anymore. Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm. Jessica Thomas: That's what yeah. Elaine Gonzales: And then finally Jessica Thomas: And finally, the incorporation of a L_C_D_ or a speech recognition system in the remote control could also be interesting, but I don't know if the budget would Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Jessica Thomas: be large Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Jessica Thomas: enough. Elaine Gonzales: First I'm just wondering about the L_C_D_ stuff Jessica Thomas: But Elaine Gonzales: because Jessica Thomas: most of Elaine Gonzales: uh Jessica Thomas: yeah Elaine Gonzales: because Jessica Thomas: most of the young people to thirty to thirty years old were really interested in this kind of technology. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah, so maybe it's a good time for Jessica Thomas to uh to bring you to some new uh new informations. We had the new requirements from the so uh from the head offices of the company, and so they wanted so they want to um they would like to be restricted to T_V_. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: Okay, I dunno if you had this information already. Joyce Hernandez: No. Elaine Gonzales: No, so they want us to restrict the remote control to T_V_ only because of time limitations. Um they want also Jessica Thomas: Actually Elaine Gonzales: uh Jessica Thomas: this marketing report is restricted to T_V_ remote controls. Elaine Gonzales: Excellent. So we have also to focus more on the internet aspects because well well te teletext is outdated now and uh finally, it should be clear that the corporate image, that means colours and logos of the co our company should be clearly inde identified in the product. So Joyce Hernandez: I was still uh I was still working on this uh twenty five Euro price point because I think actually having looked at some of the remotes out there, this is quite a low uh price if if we're maybe I can get to this in my presentation though, but um Elaine Gonzales: Yeah yeah. Joyce Hernandez: yeah. Elaine Gonzales: Sure sure. So maybe we can jump to your presentations, Joyce Hernandez: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: right Joyce Hernandez: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: now. Okay so let's keep in mind about tha that that this last point about L_C_D_ and speech uh Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. I Elaine Gonzales: reco Joyce Hernandez: think even even if it was within budget do a speech reco rec system it might be a bit difficult because if you think if you're watching T_V_ you're gonna have a lot of this uh background noise from the T_V_ which might interfere with the Elaine Gonzales: Sorry, what is your? Joyce Hernandez: Uh participant three. You might have some background noise from the T_V_ which will make the speech recognition much uh Jessica Thomas: Yeah but you should Joyce Hernandez: harder, Jessica Thomas: be able to Joyce Hernandez: so. Jessica Thomas: activate or disactivate, so yeah Joyce Hernandez: Oh you press Jessica Thomas: yeah. Joyce Hernandez: a press a button to talk, and the Jessica Thomas: Yeah Joyce Hernandez: the T_V_ Jessica Thomas: uh channel Joyce Hernandez: the T_V_ Jessica Thomas: fifty. Joyce Hernandez: sound turns off. Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: No it could be command control kind of thing. It requir recognises particular sequence and then it gets activated. Means you say you should say like does that, remote control being on or be on kind of thing, and then remote control comes in the picture for the speech recognition. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: Because this kind of thing means speech is there from the T_V_ also. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: So there should be something command controlled, you start Joyce Hernandez: Mm. Crystal Putnam: and then you stop. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: It's like V_I_ editor, you are having two modes similarly. Otherwise it's just lying idle. Elaine Gonzales: Okay Michael. Joyce Hernandez: Okay, so, could I describe the mouse maybe be Elaine Gonzales: Sorry? Joyce Hernandez: easier to could I use the mouse, or Elaine Gonzales: Um yeah. Joyce Hernandez: Mm. Thanks. Okay. Elaine Gonzales: The wheel doesn't work. Joyce Hernandez: Great. Okay so um while uh researching this this topic I first of all just thought of a couple of things that I would like to see in a remote, and just uh looked to see if they're actually available in any current remotes, and then also searched for which are the top-rated uh remote controls on Epinions dot com, which is a a you know a a customer um written basically review site. So um there's a pretty wide range of uh remote controls these days and and uh this remote control on the right here is is one of the more extravagant, but it's not really it's by no means uh mm you know on it's own in being so expensive. There are a lot of expensive remote controls out there. Elaine Gonzales: Looks like a P_D_A_? Joyce Hernandez: So yeah it doe it's well basically all the functions uh are controlled through through the L_C_D_ screen except for the really really kind of main functions, which have a couple of of their own buttons. Um and if you look at a lot of the universal remotes out um on the market, I know we're working on television remote, but a lot of the universal remotes out there have uh have these L_C_D_ screens which kind of helps when you're using multiple uh devices I suppose because you can have multiple kind of functions d different functions on the screen at different times. But um the thing that I find most interesting about this remote control, and it's kind of difficult to uh to see in the slide, but it has a scroll wheel on it, which is kind of like uh a mouse scroll wheel, which I think is it's a really kind of important design aspect um is it's 'Cause the thing is what a what we the presen this presentation we had is what we want the remote control to actually do. And obviously the the simplest thing that a remote control does is it just change Crystal Putnam: Change Joyce Hernandez: the Crystal Putnam: the channels. Joyce Hernandez: change the channel. Crystal Putnam: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: Now um uh the I think that a scroll wheel is actually pretty a pretty handy way of of changing the channel. 'Cause I know when I um when I use the remote to change the channel I very rarely use the numbers on the on the Crystal Putnam: Mmm-hmm Joyce Hernandez: pad. I usually Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: use the up and down Crystal Putnam: Yeah yeah. Joyce Hernandez: a special button to enter a two-digit number, and then two numbers, so that's just uh it's annoying. So I think a scroll wheel is is quite handy. Now um the the scroll wheel is is much more useful if you have an L_C_D_ screen, and this brings us to the the point you were mentioning before about the internet uh capability. Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: One possibility, if we now we need to still talk about the price point because obviously a lot of this stuff can't be done for twenty five Eu uh Euro, but one possibility is to download program information into the L_C_D_ screen so that instead of actually saying I want to I want to go to channel thirty seven because I know this programme's on, you know, often you don't know what ch what channel it's on, or you don't know what's on. If you have a list of of programs on your L_C_D_ screen you just scroll to that program rather than to a channel. So if you think about it's kind of like a you know in mobile phones now you don't use you don't remember people's phone number, you remember their name and you go find that name and ring it. So this would be pretty kind of a handy thing to have, but um we we really need t to discuss the price. So, I mean there are there are uh cheaper this is another multi kinda purpose remote control where it's it's it's very simple, there's only a few buttons, but al each of those buttons does something different in a different context. So this is something else we might wanna consider, is really kind of limiting the number of buttons, because this is the top rating uh universal remote control on on Epinions. It it's really uh maybe worth thinking about limiting the number of buttons as much as as possible um because really I think people want to be able to find the button they're looking for without even looking at the remote control. And was saying before about having different size buttons for different you know frequently used uh tasks, but I think also you know the location and and shape of the buttons is important, but also the number of buttons. So if you have too many buttons it it it increases the the difficulty of finding Crystal Putnam: But Joyce Hernandez: the one Crystal Putnam: there Joyce Hernandez: you Crystal Putnam: is Joyce Hernandez: want. Crystal Putnam: one Joyce Hernandez: So Crystal Putnam: problem then the user has to understand each of that functionality. Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah well Crystal Putnam: Because Joyce Hernandez: we w Crystal Putnam: the same button is doing too many things. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah well we will have a bit of a simpler uh task in that we're only doing uh a television remote control. Um I think maybe one option is to have you know a little flip-open um door that uh that you have hidden most of the time, but contains the extra buttons like, say, the number buttons for instance. Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: Um I I would if I had my perfect remote control, I'd probably just have no numbers at all on it because Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: they're just in the way. They don't really do anything. Maybe you know I although I do also find flip-open doors a bit of a pain because sometimes they can break off or or whatever, but maybe a door that you can you can permanantly remove or permanantly Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: have on would be good. Um but I think definitely you need to to keep the buttons down to a minimum, but not not let that kind of interfere with the functionality of of the device. Um Jessica Thomas: H I think I think that the tr the transition to this to this new remote control shouldn't be very very abrupt very hard because w if people see a remo see the see a remote control without numbers mm they will think it's very difficult to learn very difficult to Crystal Putnam: It does Jessica Thomas: very Crystal Putnam: sampling Jessica Thomas: different Crystal Putnam: out of Jessica Thomas: build very Crystal Putnam: the. Jessica Thomas: different to Joyce Hernandez: Well I guess Jessica Thomas: the traditional Joyce Hernandez: that depends on how you market it. If you if you have the right advertisement showing how how Jessica Thomas: If Joyce Hernandez: how easy Jessica Thomas: y Joyce Hernandez: it is and how you can, you know, navigate to a program without the numbers, then people might say that looks pretty easy. Elaine Gonzales: Okay, Joyce Hernandez: So, Elaine Gonzales: can Joyce Hernandez: but Elaine Gonzales: you continue, Joyce Hernandez: yep. Elaine Gonzales: please Mi? Joyce Hernandez: Um okay, so, I think um one of the really kind of useful things you can do with with internet connectivity would be to have this a programme driven interface rather than the channel number. So if we can have a higher priced uh remote control I think that would really be worth uh something that would be worth implementing. Um mm there's the L_C_D_ screen, um which maybe maybe is too expensive, um but I think also at the scroll wheel, I haven't mentioned it here, the scroll wheel could be used without an L_C_D_ screen, just for changing channel numbers easily. I think even that, I mean, that would be a fairly cheap thing, compared to an L_C_D_ screen, Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: to implement, um but I think that would be quite useful as well. And the other thing, you say we need to we need to keep it just television, but I think one maybe one option, since this is supposed to be a kind of a fashionable device, is you know there's a certain kind of cool or wow factor that you can kind of you can have with technology, and maybe we wanna make it something that's extensible to do other tasks. Say you have like um a little another little kind of base unit that can also receive signals as well as the television where you can, say uh, change the lighting in the room. You know that would be something maybe you could sell as an extra, so that it doesn't have to be part of the initial development, but, you know, later on you could you can you know you also, selling the potential of the device. Then you say potentially you can then do other cool stuff like change the lights, I dunno, close the windows, whatever, turn the heating on, and um, I think that's something we may need to have as as at least as an optional extra to to kinda make our product Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Joyce Hernandez: cool, since we say we're putting the fashion in electronics. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Okay, thanks. Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: you Crystal Putnam: So Elaine Gonzales: want to go? Crystal Putnam: yeah. So most of the things which we are discussing about is speech recognition uh, that means Elaine Gonzales: This Crystal Putnam: on Elaine Gonzales: one? Crystal Putnam: my own I yeah, it should be. Elaine Gonzales: Great. No, not that one. you are two. Crystal Putnam: Two. Elaine Gonzales: Alright. Crystal Putnam: Okay so the working design is uh user i interface could be of two types, one is the usual press buttons which are there so that the user feels that he is knoing doing some he is knowing about that technology. So he is pretty comfortable if he wants to get this, and on top of that there there could be a speech recognition technology also being sitting on the on the remote. So the old kind of users who don't want to have any changes, it can it can be useful for them, and the new users, as uh our Marketing Expert was saying, they can use the new gizmo which is speech recognition kind of thing. Elaine Gonzales: Okay, sorry to interrupt you, but we have seen before that there is a new way of interacting that use wheel. Crystal Putnam: That's right. So anyway, that didn't come into my mind, Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Crystal Putnam: so th that is a possibility. These could be other kind of interfaces. Means we can have, depending on the cost, how much we can afford, we can have different kind of interfaces. So spe buttons are something which is very everybody is familiar with. So if you go to the market and you say that buttons are there the people know what it is, Elaine Gonzales: Mm-hmm. Crystal Putnam: and on top of that if we are having extra functionality people are willing to shell that twenty-five Euros money which we are thinking. Otherwise we are just like others in the market. So anyway that is the first, user interface could be of more than one type, and uh yeah that means we can do the on-line changes which which cannot be done now actually. So apart from the speech, we can have the scroll kind of thing with the buttons. Now for buttons, normal requirements like bit coding and all those things are required. And for voice, limited vocabulary automatic speech recognition system is required and we require a microphone also to be sitting there on the remote. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. That increases the the cost also. Crystal Putnam: Uh that's right. But uh means we have to see how much what kind of microphones and stuff like that. Elaine Gonzales: Do you think that performance of such systems are enough to to target well of such technologies is enough? Crystal Putnam: Uh yes, if it is limited vocabulary usually it's enough. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Crystal Putnam: Yeah we we can uh target, means we can target ninety five percent accuracy or somewhere ninety Elaine Gonzales: Well Crystal Putnam: seven Elaine Gonzales: wh Crystal Putnam: perc Elaine Gonzales: uh I imagine Joyce Hernandez: Hmm. Elaine Gonzales: also that the microphone will be an ambiance um a um an ambience microphones Crystal Putnam: That's Elaine Gonzales: because Crystal Putnam: right. Elaine Gonzales: you are not going to speak into Crystal Putnam: No Elaine Gonzales: into Crystal Putnam: it Elaine Gonzales: th Crystal Putnam: it could Elaine Gonzales: into Crystal Putnam: be Elaine Gonzales: the remote Crystal Putnam: little Elaine Gonzales: control. Crystal Putnam: d yeah Elaine Gonzales: So Crystal Putnam: it Elaine Gonzales: it Crystal Putnam: could Elaine Gonzales: could Crystal Putnam: be Elaine Gonzales: be s a few centimetres. Crystal Putnam: That's right. Joyce Hernandez: Well Crystal Putnam: That's Joyce Hernandez: one Crystal Putnam: right. Joyce Hernandez: one other thing that that speech recognition could really blow out the price for is uh when you want to sell into other markets, though, because, I'm not sure exactly where we're gonna sell this, but I presume it's not gonna just be English speaking countries. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: So Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm Joyce Hernandez: then you have Crystal Putnam: mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: to s you know, you have to train models for Crystal Putnam: Uh it's more like, means there are different speech technologies which are existing so D_T_W_ could be kind of which is the easiest. So you have to store some templates on the on the on the chip itself, and it's just dynamic time warping where you try to find out what it is, instead of having Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: a model which has to Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Crystal Putnam: be trained and being a micro-controller. Elaine Gonzales: Okay we shou we should discuss this Crystal Putnam: Yeah, Elaine Gonzales: la later Crystal Putnam: that's right. Elaine Gonzales: after after after this Crystal Putnam: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: this uh slide. Crystal Putnam: So Elaine Gonzales: This Crystal Putnam: we Elaine Gonzales: is Crystal Putnam: can Elaine Gonzales: a this is a this is a a very important uh issue Crystal Putnam: That's Elaine Gonzales: in Crystal Putnam: right. Elaine Gonzales: discussion. Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: Okay, next. Crystal Putnam: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: Uh that finished? Crystal Putnam: No no. Components. Elaine Gonzales: No? Components? Crystal Putnam: Yeah. So, will you go to the next slide? Elaine Gonzales: Yes sure. Crystal Putnam: Yeah so this is the design which we are thinking so. We are having a power button and the switch, which is not much, and then we are having the which is to indicate whether the power is on or not. And then there are two kind of things which can be so one is the button interface which has not been shown because because of lack of time. So we could not put that. So now where the A_S_R_ decoder is sitting, similarly there are different kind of interfaces which could be there. there, and then there could be another scroll button scroll scroller, and then there could be buttons, and all of them they will just do the decoding and put it in the math put it in the proper message format. And then there is there is the chip which is sitting, the green one, and it converts it into bit codes, and that bit codes are sent by the infrared device to the receiver. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Crystal Putnam: So this is the easiest design the there could be. So th an A_S_R_ decoder we can have things in. To have different technologies. So this was the my personal preference was that we can have A_S_R_ sitting there on the remote control. Joyce Hernandez: You Crystal Putnam: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: know I guess you could actually train the remote control as you're using it by saying you know turn volume up, and you press the uh press the button like uh s people teach sign language to kids f well, Crystal Putnam: Yeah but Joyce Hernandez: by Crystal Putnam: uh Joyce Hernandez: speaking and Crystal Putnam: as soon Joyce Hernandez: doing Crystal Putnam: as you try to put the microchip kind of thing or something the price will go up. Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: So these Elaine Gonzales: Okay. Crystal Putnam: are the slight problems. Elaine Gonzales: So your your opinion is that we should go for special Crystal Putnam: Because Elaine Gonzales: condition technologies? Crystal Putnam: yeah the reason is that if we go into the market means though I don't have much idea, but as he the uh Marketing Expert presentation Jessica Thomas: I'm sure Crystal Putnam: was Jessica Thomas: if you can sell a a speech recognition remote control for twenty five Euros everyo everyone will s will buy it. Crystal Putnam: So if Joyce Hernandez: Actually Crystal Putnam: we go Joyce Hernandez: I'm Crystal Putnam: with Joyce Hernandez: not Crystal Putnam: just Joyce Hernandez: so sure Crystal Putnam: the Jessica Thomas: I'm Joyce Hernandez: because Jessica Thomas: sure. Joyce Hernandez: I'm the you know if I was using a remote control to, say, turn the volume up because I can't hear it very well, I don't really want to you know drown out what people are saying by talking you know when I'm when I'm instead of pressing up on on a remote control. You know if there's some there's some dialogue all of a sudden that I can't hear, Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: I'm trying to actually find out what's being said, so maybe speech recognition gets in the way more than it helps. Elaine Gonzales: Okay so Jessica Thomas: Yeah but you know the the average frequency of pushing buttons, it's about Joyce Hernandez: Well it depends if it's a remote control Jessica Thomas: it's about Joyce Hernandez: th Jessica Thomas: eighty eighty eighty pushes per hour, or something like that. Joyce Hernandez: Maybe if the remote control is something that y you don't actually have to pick up anymore, that would be a a useful feature of the speech recogntion. If you can Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: leave it sitting Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: on the table and Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: you don't actually have Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: to find Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: it, then Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Joyce Hernandez: that could be. Elaine Gonzales: have to take some deci decisions right now. Crystal Putnam: Alright. Elaine Gonzales: Um so if I if I kind of summarise everything we've de we we said. We are targeting T_V_. We need we need to have um um remote control which is fanc fancy, which is uh which is easy to to hand not too small, not too big. Um we have Jessica Thomas: With a good shape for Elaine Gonzales: or Jessica Thomas: the Elaine Gonzales: good shape, yes. We should bring new technologies for young peoples, and uh as we have uh also requirements to to use uh to to push thr toward the internet. Maybe this is something we can stick to it. And um also, a very interesting things I I I've seen on on on the one of the comp o our competitor is this wheel that we can use to navigate. So so my feeling is that re regarding costs budget we have an an an target price, it's not possible to go s to go to L_C_D_ and also to go to automatic speech recognition technologies. Uh first m m why not to go to L_C_D_. Because um in fact as we are targeting uh T_V_ in fact we can use T_V_ screen as a screen to feedback to to give some feedback informations about what Joyce Hernandez: Well it depends Elaine Gonzales: we could Joyce Hernandez: though Elaine Gonzales: have. Joyce Hernandez: well it depends. If we we don't unless we have some input some video input to the T_V_ or we have control over the T_V_ then we can't actually display that. Like if we if we produce the T_V_s then then yeah we can put you know menus up up there, but otherwise we need to actually have some kind of something sitting in between the video signal and the and the T_V_ to superimpose those those menus. So that's an extra Elaine Gonzales: Yeah that's right. Don Joyce Hernandez: cost. Elaine Gonzales: don't you ha don't we have contacts with uh people on T_V_ or or well systems that exist that we Joyce Hernandez: Well this is Elaine Gonzales: can use? Joyce Hernandez: this is another que we still haven't really defined the remote. Are we still you say we're focusing on T_V_, but is it still a kind of like a universal remote in that it's a replacement remote control, or Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: is this something for our own line of of televisions? 'Cause that really makes a big difference. 'Cause even if we have contacts we can't really produce a remote control that can bring up menus on other other companies' T_V_s. It's just there are too many T_V_s out there. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: It's it's not really Elaine Gonzales: That's Joyce Hernandez: gonna Elaine Gonzales: good point. What's what cou what could be the cost of uh well, could we fit the the targets uh in terms of cost uh if we go s to L_C_D_ on the remote control? Joyce Hernandez: For twenty five Euro? Elaine Gonzales: Yeah. Crystal Putnam: It's Joyce Hernandez: I think Crystal Putnam: not Joyce Hernandez: it's Crystal Putnam: possible. Joyce Hernandez: impossible. Crystal Putnam: It's impossible. Joyce Hernandez: But Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Joyce Hernandez: but I dunno, I think um it would be good to know if there is any leverage in that any leeway in that um that twenty five Euro because for twenty five Euro I think all we can really do is provide a very basic remote control, and that seems to be kind of against the philosophy of our company which is you know putting the fashion into electronics. So I would I would like to know if there's any chance of of increasing the uh Jessica Thomas: Uh Joyce Hernandez: of increasing the unit price. Jessica Thomas: What would Elaine Gonzales: So Jessica Thomas: be Elaine Gonzales: you mean yo you mean we we should target something maybe which is which would be more expensive Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: but re really fancy in Joyce Hernandez: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: terms to um in terms to had to have really an added value? Joyce Hernandez: Yeah because Elaine Gonzales: Okay, Joyce Hernandez: yeah. Elaine Gonzales: so regarding the automatic Jessica Thomas: Wha Elaine Gonzales: speech recognition, I think Jessica Thomas: but Elaine Gonzales: this is Jessica Thomas: what would be one question, what would be the goal of putting an L_C_D_ in a remote control? Joyce Hernandez: Well Jessica Thomas: What Joyce Hernandez: th Jessica Thomas: what kind of information? Joyce Hernandez: 'Cause you can have things like the programme name instead of the channel numbers, like Jessica Thomas: Yeah Joyce Hernandez: an interactive Jessica Thomas: but mo Joyce Hernandez: programme Jessica Thomas: most of the Joyce Hernandez: guide. Jessica Thomas: T_V_s nowadays Elaine Gonzales: They Jessica Thomas: show Elaine Gonzales: have tele Jessica Thomas: the Elaine Gonzales: teletext. Jessica Thomas: show the Elaine Gonzales: Well, because they have teletext Jessica Thomas: the n Elaine Gonzales: on it. Th th you have a teletext sin signal that you can that you can uh Jessica Thomas: Yeah Elaine Gonzales: that you Jessica Thomas: but Elaine Gonzales: can get thr Jessica Thomas: yeah Elaine Gonzales: through Jessica Thomas: most Elaine Gonzales: the channel. Jessica Thomas: of the T_V_s have teletext nowadays. Elaine Gonzales: They have t most of them have Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: teletext, but we want to get rid well one of our requirements is to uh to move to teletext to uh to the use of internet. So to to uh Joyce Hernandez: You can get a lot more information Elaine Gonzales: to browse more easily Joyce Hernandez: on Elaine Gonzales: the teletext. Joyce Hernandez: it. Elaine Gonzales: For instance through uh through your remote control. Jessica Thomas: So what would what would appear in the in the L_C_D_? Joyce Hernandez: So you could have the name of the programme, you could have um Elaine Gonzales: The ti Joyce Hernandez: the start time Elaine Gonzales: the start Joyce Hernandez: you know Elaine Gonzales: time, Joyce Hernandez: where it's Elaine Gonzales: all Joyce Hernandez: up Elaine Gonzales: the Joyce Hernandez: to. Elaine Gonzales: p all the programmes you could have uh Joyce Hernandez: You could have a l even Elaine Gonzales: o Joyce Hernandez: a little image of you know the c Jessica Thomas: Okay. Joyce Hernandez: you know the the m the main actors or something so you can quickly just kind of even without Elaine Gonzales: Well Joyce Hernandez: reading Elaine Gonzales: I don't know if this information is available from teletext, also. Joyce Hernandez: Well no, but there are the electronic programme guides out Crystal Putnam: Are Joyce Hernandez: there. They may not have pictures, but maybe they do. There's dependi it also Elaine Gonzales: Well because Joyce Hernandez: depends on the country. Elaine Gonzales: for the same reason that we cannot uh informations on the T_V_. We c we couldn't grab information information which is not there. Joyce Hernandez: No but I mean with the internet you have flexibility of where you get your information from. So it may be possible that there are Elaine Gonzales: So Joyce Hernandez: people out there providing that. Elaine Gonzales: so that mean Jessica Thomas: But Elaine Gonzales: w Joyce Hernandez: Uh. Elaine Gonzales: w we need an in an extra internet connection to use the remote control, if you want to browse, Jessica Thomas: Yeah. Elaine Gonzales: in addition to the T_V_, or uh or it should be a special T_V_ connected Joyce Hernandez: Well Elaine Gonzales: to Joyce Hernandez: I I think if we're gonna I think we would definitely need the internet connection because even with y I don't think you could even get teletext information from the T_V_ onto the remote control, especially if we don't control the T_V_. I dunno. We need to find that out. Elaine Gonzales: Okay. We need to close the meeting. Um so Crystal Putnam: But just a small thing, what Elaine Gonzales: Very Crystal Putnam: kind Elaine Gonzales: quickly. Crystal Putnam: of market we are targeting? Is it that we are targeting the replacement remote market, or what? So the remote has gone bad and the person wants to buy a new remote or because the cost of L_C_D_ thing could be as high as the T_V_ itself. That is very Elaine Gonzales: No. Crystal Putnam: important. Joyce Hernandez: Mm. If Elaine Gonzales: Yeah, Joyce Hernandez: it's a really small T_V_ Elaine Gonzales: well Joyce Hernandez: maybe. Elaine Gonzales: people go to buy another remote control when they broke Crystal Putnam: Broke. Elaine Gonzales: n Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: broke Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: their, and they want to go t for universal Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: one, and Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: they take the fanciest they can Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: have. Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: So this is that we z that that we should target. So the com the um the uh the committment is the following, we don't go for speech recognition technology. Crystal Putnam: Mm-hmm. Elaine Gonzales: The L_C_D_ is still on disc is still open to discussion. It is up to you to go through this um uh this way and to to report report Jessica Thomas back next meeting. So Jessica Thomas: I think that the speech recognition technology would Crystal Putnam: It's Jessica Thomas: be cheaper Crystal Putnam: it's cheaper Jessica Thomas: the Crystal Putnam: as compared Jessica Thomas: than Crystal Putnam: to Jessica Thomas: the Crystal Putnam: the L_C_D_. Jessica Thomas: L_C_D_. Elaine Gonzales: Yeah, but not sure. Maybe it's cheaper, but we have no Jessica Thomas: Because with the L_C_D_ you need more requirements. You need a internet connection. You need m more things. But for the speech Joyce Hernandez: Well Jessica Thomas: recognition Joyce Hernandez: the thing Jessica Thomas: you Joyce Hernandez: is Jessica Thomas: you Joyce Hernandez: I think Jessica Thomas: don't need Joyce Hernandez: I Jessica Thomas: anything. Joyce Hernandez: think the type of peop Jessica Thomas: channel fifty, and that's it. Joyce Hernandez: I think the type of people that are gonna want to buy a very stylish rem r remote control with lots of new technologies are the kinda people that are gonna have you know a wireless internet connection maybe, or a Jessica Thomas: But then Joyce Hernandez: you know. Jessica Thomas: we should move to another target b because Crystal Putnam: Means Jessica Thomas: at twenty Crystal Putnam: th Jessica Thomas: five Crystal Putnam: yeah Jessica Thomas: Dollars, Joyce Hernandez: Well this Jessica Thomas: it's Joyce Hernandez: is what Crystal Putnam: twenty Joyce Hernandez: we need Crystal Putnam: five Joyce Hernandez: to find Crystal Putnam: Euros Joyce Hernandez: out. Can Crystal Putnam: is Joyce Hernandez: we Crystal Putnam: yeah, Joyce Hernandez: can Crystal Putnam: that's Joyce Hernandez: we Crystal Putnam: right. Joyce Hernandez: increase the the price point of this remote control? 'Cause otherwise we need Elaine Gonzales: Okay this is this is an open question for you. Yeah. This is uh up to you to tell us. But I'm definitely not keen on Jessica Thomas: To move to another target? Elaine Gonzales: to to no no no, I'm no I'm definit definitely not keen on going to speech recognition technologies. I'm not confident enough. I'm not sure that that we'll have a product really that work. I uh that work Joyce Hernandez: It's kind of hard to guarantee Elaine Gonzales: It's Joyce Hernandez: that Elaine Gonzales: real Joyce Hernandez: you're gonna Elaine Gonzales: yeah. How to guarantee such performances is really hard. Jessica Thomas: the expert uh said ninety five percent. Joyce Hernandez: Ninety Elaine Gonzales: Well this Joyce Hernandez: five Elaine Gonzales: is still Joyce Hernandez: percent is not good enough Elaine Gonzales: is Joyce Hernandez: though. Elaine Gonzales: is very bad. So, this is the end of this discussion. Next meeting uh here are the task you have to work on. Um so you have to work on the component uh concept. Crystal Putnam: Okay. Elaine Gonzales: Uh you have to work on user interface, and you have to go through a trend watching. Okay. So the question is still open about the L_C_D_ thing. Um uh we I hope that next meeting we will uh we'll take some um decision that direction. Thanks. Joyce Hernandez: Yep. Elaine Gonzales: Bye.	Elaine Gonzales opens the meeting stating that they will address the functional design of the remote and saying they are still undecided about whether it should be universal or specific. He suggests they name the project and they come up with "mando", meaning "control" in Spanish. Jessica Thomas presents some research done on user opinions of remotes. He suggests the use of using voice recognition or an LCD, which they discuss despite concerns about budget limitation. Crystal Putnam presents, showing examples of existing products and suggesting they add a scroll wheel for channel-changing. He says Internet capability might be necessary for an LCD and then brings up button size, suggesting having a flip-open door with extra buttons under it. They discuss voice recognition again, and then the interface specialist presents. He suggests they have two types of user interfaces and brings up that voice recognition would increase production price. They talk about the budget limitations on features and then Elaine Gonzales summarizes decisios made and closes the meeting by teeling each group member what he should work on.	4	amisum	train
Christi Blanco: Okay. Good afternoon again. So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of detail design of the of the remote Um So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two, sounds interesting. And we'll have um presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. we'll to finance evaluation the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro. Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting. So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_, no speech recognition technology, okay, we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons. And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let this uh wonderful thing. Mary Nardella: Okay so we can go to the slides. Christi Blanco: Oh yeah. Sorry. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Um. Mary Nardella: Number three. Oh number two sorry. Christi Blanco: Which is Mary Nardella: So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead. Margert Todd: Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow well to make a banana Christi Blanco: Yeah can you show it to the the Margert Todd: remote Christi Blanco: camera maybe. Margert Todd: okay so we actually have a Mary Nardella: You can pull it out first, Margert Todd: We've Mary Nardella: maybe. Margert Todd: well first first of all we made a an attractive base station uh with a banana leaf uh Christi Blanco: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: look and feel um and uh bana sit the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself, it's kind of it's it's ergonomic, it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've the two uh uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally. Christi Blanco: What's the use uh of the t turbo button already? Margert Todd: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you Christi Blanco: Ah yeah yeah Margert Todd: quickly Christi Blanco: an then you Margert Todd: rather Christi Blanco: stop Margert Todd: th Christi Blanco: when you stop it stops. Margert Todd: Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But Mary Nardella: Uh Margert Todd: normally with uh it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see Christi Blanco: Uh-huh. Margert Todd: the Mary Nardella: And Margert Todd: the Mary Nardella: we Margert Todd: picture. Mary Nardella: we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button, so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_. Margert Todd: The T_V_ yeah. Christi Blanco: Which one? Margert Todd: The s the Mary Nardella: The Margert Todd: turbo Mary Nardella: turbo button. Margert Todd: button. So Christi Blanco: Okay. Margert Todd: rather than having uh Mary Nardella: Additional Margert Todd: an extra Mary Nardella: button. Margert Todd: button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button. Emily Credeur: What this button for? Margert Todd: This is a teletext button. Emily Credeur: Okay. Margert Todd: So once you press that then you get teletext and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh Christi Blanco: To navigate Emily Credeur: But if Margert Todd: To navigate Christi Blanco: it through Mary Nardella: That's right, Margert Todd: yeah. Christi Blanco: th through Emily Credeur: you Mary Nardella: that's Christi Blanco: teletext. Mary Nardella: right. Emily Credeur: want to go to page seven hundred? Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: with Emily Credeur: How man Christi Blanco: the wheel it's easy. Margert Todd: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing, you press the the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh Emily Credeur: I don't understand it. Can you repeat it? Margert Todd: Well you can you can press press the teletext button Emily Credeur: Yeah. Margert Todd: and then Mary Nardella: then Margert Todd: you then you Mary Nardella: then Margert Todd: can Mary Nardella: both Margert Todd: you can Mary Nardella: scroll Margert Todd: f Mary Nardella: buttons they are for teletext browsing. And you can tele Emily Credeur: Ah okay okay. Mary Nardella: yeah, once Emily Credeur: Okay. Mary Nardella: you Margert Todd: Mm Mary Nardella: press Emily Credeur: Okay Mary Nardella: the teletext Emily Credeur: okay. Margert Todd: uh Mary Nardella: button then the scroll buttons Emily Credeur: Okay. Mary Nardella: they are more for teletext, they are no more for channel or vol volume. Emily Credeur: I see. I see. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Emily Credeur: Okay. Okay. Margert Todd: And this is the uh the infrared uh port. Mary Nardella: That's right. Margert Todd: Also the top of the banana. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Excellent. Margert Todd: So. And then we have in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh Christi Blanco: Calling. Margert Todd: for calling the uh the banana. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Excellent. And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas? Margert Todd: Actually they do. That's Christi Blanco: Oh. Margert Todd: that's yeah that's uh that's Mary Nardella: Yeah. Margert Todd: form and function in the one in the one Mary Nardella: So it Margert Todd: uh Mary Nardella: always Margert Todd: object. Mary Nardella: means, whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage. It's like antennas. Margert Todd: Yeah. So. But yeah that's um that's just like that's an attractive um base station. Christi Blanco: Great. Margert Todd: So. Okay. Christi Blanco: So, what else? Mary Nardella: And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries. Emily Credeur: Is it really weight? Is it light or Mary Nardella: It is very light. Christi Blanco: Yeah, Emily Credeur: Okay. Christi Blanco: they're Margert Todd: It's Christi Blanco: light. Margert Todd: it's uh it's about the weight of a banana. Emily Credeur: Okay. Margert Todd: You know, to give you the correct look and feel. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Emily Credeur: Ok Mary Nardella: And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana. Emily Credeur: Okay. Mary Nardella: Otherwise it's you know Emily Credeur: Yeah yeah yeah, I Mary Nardella: a Emily Credeur: see. Mary Nardella: child comes Emily Credeur: I under Mary Nardella: and Emily Credeur: I understand. Mary Nardella: so Margert Todd: I think a child would try to eat it anyway, so maybe Mary Nardella: Yeah. Margert Todd: we should consider that. maybe health and safety aspects. Christi Blanco: Ah yeah. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Oh we didn't think of that yet. Margert Todd: Yeah. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So for the power source, apparently you still you you want to use both solar cells and Mary Nardella: Oh Christi Blanco: batteries. Mary Nardella: yeah that's right. Christi Blanco: Uh you mean okay. So Margert Todd: I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary Christi Blanco: Yeah, Margert Todd: any more Christi Blanco: where Margert Todd: if you have Christi Blanco: are Margert Todd: a Christi Blanco: going Margert Todd: recharging Christi Blanco: to Margert Todd: base station. Christi Blanco: where are Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm Christi Blanco: you are Mary Nardella: mm-hmm. Christi Blanco: you going to place them? Mary Nardella: It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there. Margert Todd: If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like Christi Blanco: You have enough Margert Todd: uh the Christi Blanco: surface? Margert Todd: black bit Christi Blanco: You Margert Todd: but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells Mary Nardella: Yeah because Margert Todd: anymore. Mary Nardella: now we are having rechargeable batteries Christi Blanco: Okay. Mary Nardella: so Margert Todd: Mm. Mary Nardella: that that Christi Blanco: What Mary Nardella: is. Christi Blanco: will be the autonomy? Roughly? Margert Todd: The what sorry? Christi Blanco: The autonomy. Autonomy. Margert Todd: What do you mean? Christi Blanco: Uh Emily Credeur: How long Christi Blanco: I Emily Credeur: the Christi Blanco: mean how Emily Credeur: how long Christi Blanco: long does i Emily Credeur: the Christi Blanco: how Emily Credeur: bit Christi Blanco: how Emily Credeur: the Margert Todd: Ah. Emily Credeur: batteries Christi Blanco: how long can Emily Credeur: long. Christi Blanco: it be held off Margert Todd: Ah. Christi Blanco: a station? Margert Todd: A long time. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: Eight Christi Blanco: A long Mary Nardella: to ten eight to ten hours. Margert Todd: No no no, it can it should Mary Nardella: N Margert Todd: be Mary Nardella: most Margert Todd: weeks. Mary Nardella: no most of the time it's not being used. Christi Blanco: Yeah, so it's Margert Todd: Yeah Mary Nardella: So when Margert Todd: but y Mary Nardella: when Margert Todd: people Mary Nardella: you are Margert Todd: don't Mary Nardella: making Margert Todd: like Mary Nardella: it Margert Todd: to put Mary Nardella: on Margert Todd: it Christi Blanco: It's Margert Todd: back in Christi Blanco: used Margert Todd: the base Christi Blanco: only Margert Todd: station Christi Blanco: when you Margert Todd: all the time people Mary Nardella: Mm. Margert Todd: leave wanna leave it on the couch so Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working. If Margert Todd: Ah, Mary Nardella: you are just Margert Todd: okay. Mary Nardella: leaving like that it'll Margert Todd: Okay. Mary Nardella: be much longer. Christi Blanco: Yeah. F weeks. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Margert Todd: Yeah. Mary Nardella: That's right. Christi Blanco: Right. Next slide? Mary Nardella: Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it. Christi Blanco: Okay. Okay. Those really Mary Nardella: That's right. Christi Blanco: sounds very good. Nothing else to add? Margert Todd: It seems to be falling Emily Credeur: l Margert Todd: over. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Emily Credeur: yeah. I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince Emily Credeur the less is the the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit Mary Nardella: You want to have more functional buttons? Emily Credeur: Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say that. You the Mary Nardella: You are Emily Credeur: the Mary Nardella: not Emily Credeur: b Mary Nardella: convinced. Emily Credeur: the buttons change h h their function depending if Mary Nardella: Not Emily Credeur: y it's Mary Nardella: not Emily Credeur: teletext Mary Nardella: many, we Emily Credeur: or not Mary Nardella: we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case, that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that, the channel buttons, they baco become the scrolling buttons. Emily Credeur: And the volume button will will become Mary Nardella: It's up to you, means. Now that Christi Blanco: Well in fact b both will be could be useful, navigating Mary Nardella: Means Christi Blanco: through Mary Nardella: let's Christi Blanco: teletext. Mary Nardella: say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits. Margert Todd: Or can move between positions Mary Nardella: That's Margert Todd: in Mary Nardella: right. Margert Todd: the in the number. Emily Credeur: And Christi Blanco: Yeah. Emily Credeur: what about people who want to use digits? Butto real buttons? Christi Blanco: Wow. Mary Nardella: Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape. So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing, they they don't care about the buttons any more. Emily Credeur: Okay. Mary Nardella: And anyway Emily Credeur: Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff? Margert Todd: It's all automatic. Emily Credeur: It's all automatic. Margert Todd: Yep. Emily Credeur: Okay. Okay yeah Christi Blanco: Very Emily Credeur: it's fine. Christi Blanco: good Emily Credeur: W Christi Blanco: uh yeah Emily Credeur: we are living in a Christi Blanco: you Emily Credeur: wonderful Christi Blanco: th Emily Credeur: world. Christi Blanco: yeah. Margert Todd: Uh. Christi Blanco: Bananas everywhere. Okay, so Emily Credeur: Automatically configure. Christi Blanco: So we have to go through now Mary Nardella: Evalua Christi Blanco: evaluations. Mary Nardella: yeah. Emily Credeur: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So Emily Credeur: S Christi Blanco: your slides are ready? Uh you're four Emily Credeur: Yeah. Christi Blanco: I think. So this is one, which one is this one? Emily Credeur: Yeah. Okay. I I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven. Mary Nardella: Why this strange factor of seven? Emily Credeur: Because i I'm sorry. Sorry. Mary Nardella: Usually I Emily Credeur: Ah Mary Nardella: have Emily Credeur: yeah. Mary Nardella: seen Emily Credeur: It's Mary Nardella: that Emily Credeur: from Mary Nardella: scales Emily Credeur: sorry, Mary Nardella: are from Emily Credeur: it's Mary Nardella: one Emily Credeur: from Mary Nardella: to ten. Emily Credeur: one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: should be an even Christi Blanco: Num Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: uh Christi Blanco: number Emily Credeur: scale, Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Emily Credeur: and five is too short and nine is too long. Mary Nardella: Okay. Okay fine, got Emily Credeur: I'm Mary Nardella: the idea. Emily Credeur: a I Christi Blanco: So to Emily Credeur: I'm Christi Blanco: have in order to have enough granularity Emily Credeur: Sorry? Christi Blanco: it's in order to have enough granularity Emily Credeur: Yeah yeah. Christi Blanco: in the evaluation. Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: The variance is mi it's Christi Blanco: Okay. Mary Nardella: Okay, Emily Credeur: is minimal. Mary Nardella: okay, great. Emily Credeur: I'm um answering your question. Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: Okay. Mary Nardella: Yeah yeah. Go ahead. Emily Credeur: And that's the criteria I I found more useful. I think I sh I I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard? Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Sure. Emily Credeur: And we all four could range Mary Nardella: Okay. Yeah Emily Credeur: could evaluate the Mary Nardella: yeah. Yeah. Christi Blanco: Okay. Mary Nardella: So you can say fancy, handy. Mary Nardella: Handy. Emily Credeur: Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or Mary Nardella: Yeah, it's fancy, according to Emily Credeur. Emily Credeur: Seven but Christi Blanco: Yeah, six. Mary Nardella: Seven. Christi Blanco: S seven. Mary Nardella: Seven by Emily Credeur. Christi Blanco: Six. Emily Credeur: I would say seven. Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: It's quite fancy. Mary Nardella: So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus Christi Blanco: No, wait. Margert Todd: Yeah uh five. Christi Blanco: What do you say seven? Mary Nardella: Five. Christi Blanco: Five? Margert Todd: Five, maybe maybe maybe six it's it's I guess Christi Blanco: Okay, six Margert Todd: it's Christi Blanco: point five. Margert Todd: yeah. Christi Blanco: Handy? Mary Nardella: Again I'll give seven. Christi Blanco: Seven. Margert Todd: I'd give it a six like Emily Credeur: Six. Margert Todd: I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote, Mary Nardella: Yep. Margert Todd: 'cause of the scroll wheels but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote. Christi Blanco: So seven, Mary Nardella: Seven Christi Blanco: seven, Mary Nardella: for Emily Credeur. Christi Blanco: six, Margert Todd: Yeah. Emily Credeur: Six. Christi Blanco: six point five. Functional. Mary Nardella: I'll give five. Christi Blanco: Four. Emily Credeur: I would say Margert Todd: Well it depends when you say functional, do you mean it does what we want it to do, or d does what it does, you know, Emily Credeur: Everything Margert Todd: can it make Emily Credeur: ar Margert Todd: you coffee? You know. Emily Credeur: Mm everything Christi Blanco: Uh for a remote control, does he have all the Margert Todd: Yeah. Yeah. Christi Blanco: you Emily Credeur: It's Christi Blanco: could Emily Credeur: compared Christi Blanco: expect. Emily Credeur: to the all Mary Nardella: That's right. Emily Credeur: remote controls. Mary Nardella: That's Margert Todd: That's before Mary Nardella: right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf. Margert Todd: Yeah. I have to say four. Emily Credeur: Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal Margert Todd: Well it's not a Emily Credeur: remote Margert Todd: universal Emily Credeur: contro Margert Todd: remote. Remember Mary Nardella: We Emily Credeur: Ah it's Margert Todd: we're focus Emily Credeur: not an univer Margert Todd: we're supposed Emily Credeur: but it's Margert Todd: to focus Emily Credeur: for all Margert Todd: just Emily Credeur: kind Margert Todd: on T_V_s. Emily Credeur: of T_V_s? Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: Well all T_V_s but only T_ only T_V_s I guess. Christi Blanco: So it's universal but for T_V_s. Emily Credeur: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So s uh four? Mary Nardella: Five. Christi Blanco: Five? Margert Todd: Four. Christi Blanco: Four. Emily Credeur: Four. Four. Mary Nardella: So four point two? Margert Todd: Just four. Christi Blanco: Four. Mary Nardella: four. Emily Credeur: So Margert Todd: Obviously Emily Credeur: four? Margert Todd: there are some outliers so Christi Blanco: Okay cool? Cool device. Mary Nardella: There I'll give it seven. Emily Credeur: It means cool features, like new features actually. Mary Nardella: That's right. Margert Todd: Which Mary Nardella: For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Seven. Emily Credeur: I would say five. Margert Todd: I'll say five. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Christi Blanco: Six. Mary Nardella: Seven. Christi Blanco: Plus six, Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: I say I said seven. So it's Margert Todd: S Emily Credeur: You Christi Blanco: six. Emily Credeur: said seven? Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: yeah. 'Cause it's five five seven seven so Mary Nardella: Okay. Margert Todd: Uh, okay, definitely easy Mary Nardella: Definitely Margert Todd: to use. Mary Nardella: seven. Margert Todd: Seven. Christi Blanco: Seven. Seven. And you? Emily Credeur: Five. Christi Blanco: Outl you are not lik outlier. Seven Emily Credeur: Sorry, Mary Nardella: Okay. Emily Credeur: I have Christi Blanco: Okay Emily Credeur: them Christi Blanco: okay okay okay. Margert Todd: Alright, now here's the sixty million Dollar question, well, twenty five twenty five Euro question. Christi Blanco: Of course I'll buy the banana. Margert Todd: What do you what do you guys reckon? Mary Nardella: I'll Emily Credeur: Of Mary Nardella: say Christi Blanco: Well Emily Credeur: cour Mary Nardella: five. Emily Credeur: Of course the most difficult question for the end. Mary Nardella: I'll Margert Todd: Hmm. Mary Nardella: say five. Christi Blanco: Twenty five Euros. Emily Credeur: I find it quite cheap actually. I dunno. If i i it depends, Christi Blanco: Cheap. Emily Credeur: if you live in in Switzerland or you live in Christi Blanco: Yeah, so the target price is for all Europe, or only for rich countries? It's more targeting U_K_ or Emily Credeur: I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or Christi Blanco: So this is Margert Todd: Uh Christi Blanco: selling costs, not production costs. Emily Credeur: Yeah this Margert Todd: Yeah. Emily Credeur: is the the Margert Todd: Yeah. Emily Credeur: initial specifications. Christi Blanco: Yeah yeah sure. Um Five. Emily Credeur: I would say six. It's quite cheap actually. Margert Todd: I'd say two. Mary Nardella: Why? Margert Todd: I don't want a banana on my living room table, a Christi Blanco: Aw, Margert Todd: banana remote. Christi Blanco: should Mary Nardella: No Christi Blanco: be nice Mary Nardella: but it's Christi Blanco: in Mary Nardella: really Christi Blanco: your Mary Nardella: handy actually if you see. Margert Todd: It Mary Nardella: It's Margert Todd: is handy, Mary Nardella: it's so handy. Margert Todd: it's Mary Nardella: And Margert Todd: handy, Mary Nardella: then Margert Todd: but it it's terrible. Mary Nardella: Anyb anybody Christi Blanco: It's Mary Nardella: who Christi Blanco: kitsch. Mary Nardella: comes Margert Todd: Yeah. Mary Nardella: here anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this. Margert Todd: Yeah, but it's not a positive thing. Mary Nardella: It's a very positive thing Margert Todd: Well, Mary Nardella: if Margert Todd: you Mary Nardella: you see Margert Todd: know, Mary Nardella: like that. Margert Todd: it's it's handy, Christi Blanco: Well, Margert Todd: it's ergonomic, Christi Blanco: don't forget Margert Todd: but Christi Blanco: well, Margert Todd: it's a banana. Christi Blanco: don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are Mary Nardella: Youngsters. Emily Credeur: Actually Christi Blanco: wh yeah, Emily Credeur: maybe Christi Blanco: youngst youngst Margert Todd: so. Christi Blanco: No well yeah I if Emily Credeur: Yeah Christi Blanco: you would be young. Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance. Margert Todd: No, it's I. Christi Blanco: Okay Margert Todd: I would buy Christi Blanco: you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun Mary Nardella: You want Christi Blanco: things. Mary Nardella: to flaunt. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: You with your girlfriend or something. Christi Blanco: Yeah, you want to show the beautiful banana Margert Todd: S Christi Blanco: you have. Mary Nardella: Or might Margert Todd: s Mary Nardella: be it does some other kind of thing but Margert Todd: Still I I'd say two. I don't think I at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control, really. Mary Nardella: Uh yeah, crazy. Christi Blanco: Okay so Margert Todd: I can Christi Blanco: you Margert Todd: say, Christi Blanco: s you Margert Todd: maybe Christi Blanco: give Margert Todd: there is a market Christi Blanco: oh Margert Todd: for it, Christi Blanco: yeah Margert Todd: I dunno. Christi Blanco: yeah I know I know. So you say two. Margert Todd: Yeah. Mary Nardella: I say five. Christi Blanco: F I d I say five. You say? Emily Credeur: I change the question. Christi Blanco: So what's Mary Nardella: And Christi Blanco: the Mary Nardella: you Christi Blanco: new Mary Nardella: have saved Christi Blanco: question? Mary Nardella: it? Emily Credeur: So yeah upload the Mary Nardella: You'll have to reload. Christi Blanco: Uh yeah, I think so. Margert Todd: Okay, so, it depends if uh Emily Credeur: Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one. Christi Blanco: Yeah that's two Margert Todd: If Christi Blanco: different Margert Todd: I had Christi Blanco: question. Margert Todd: t if I had to spend twenty five Euro, if that was like my limit, maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look Mary Nardella: They're not Christi Blanco: Ugly. Margert Todd: worse Mary Nardella: going to be Margert Todd: than Mary Nardella: as Margert Todd: a banana. Mary Nardella: And they they might not be a as easy as Margert Todd: And Mary Nardella: this Margert Todd: it yeah Mary Nardella: yeah. Margert Todd: this is gonna f you know handy to use. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Emily Credeur: So? What Mary Nardella: S Emily Credeur: now? Christi Blanco: I stick Emily Credeur: What Christi Blanco: to five. Emily Credeur: range? Mary Nardella: I go Margert Todd: Although Mary Nardella: slightly Margert Todd: it still Mary Nardella: up. Margert Todd: has Mary Nardella: Six. Margert Todd: it still Emily Credeur: Six. Margert Todd: has the word of course at the beginning so I dunno. Um. Christi Blanco: W we have six, Margert Todd: I'd Christi Blanco: five Margert Todd: give it I'd give it a Christi Blanco: Three Margert Todd: I give it a four now. Christi Blanco: So we are Emily Credeur: Six? Six? Mary Nardella: Six, Christi Blanco: six, Mary Nardella: five, Christi Blanco: five, Mary Nardella: four. Christi Blanco: four Emily Credeur: Six, so it's uh five point five, or less. Christi Blanco: Yeah. So Mary Nardella: Okay. Christi Blanco: So and last question, will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um, zero. No uh we can't. So one. Emily Credeur: Actually yeah, I we Christi Blanco: Well if. Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: let's say I'll put two. Margert Todd: I'd say three, I mean my remote control is kinda at home is pretty terrible. If it was change my remote control of my D_V_D_ player for a Mando banana then I would be more inclined to Christi Blanco: It's for the T_V_. Margert Todd: but uh 'cause it's really bad but uh I'd say a three. Mary Nardella: I'll still give it five. Emily Credeur: Five? Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Two three Emily Credeur: You Christi Blanco: five Emily Credeur: are romantic, really. I Christi Blanco: two Emily Credeur: would Christi Blanco: three Emily Credeur: say two. Christi Blanco: fi and two. Mary Nardella: So Christi Blanco: So Mary Nardella: it's Christi Blanco: it's Mary Nardella: somewhere Christi Blanco: r Mary Nardella: three point five I Christi Blanco: Yeah, Mary Nardella: think. Christi Blanco: three point five. Emily Credeur: Who is the outlier? Wh wh you said five? Mary Nardella: No Christi Blanco: No Mary Nardella: I said Christi Blanco: no Mary Nardella: five. Christi Blanco: you say five, he is the outlier. Okay just just do a sum. Emily Credeur: I don't know if it's a Margert Todd: It's not very promising but you know we're Emily Credeur: No Margert Todd: not young trendsetters. Emily Credeur: because there are more yeah, we shouldn't sum like that. Christi Blanco: Well maybe we should we should uh have Emily Credeur: Because Christi Blanco: a look globally Emily Credeur: the the Christi Blanco: glob Emily Credeur: last two questions is much more important than the rest actually. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Emily Credeur: Otherwise we wouldn't Margert Todd: Is Emily Credeur: we will Margert Todd: there some Emily Credeur: not sell. Margert Todd: some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up? Emily Credeur: Uh no I didn't anything. Margert Todd: Well just leave it at that then. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: Oops. Emily Credeur: Yeah, the Christi Blanco: So maybe Emily Credeur: uh Christi Blanco: maybe w we can we should stick to general feeling. Emily Credeur: Yeah. Christi Blanco: We can had uh have a out of these numbers, which which is that well we should go for it. Emily Credeur: Do Christi Blanco: Problem Emily Credeur: you want Emily Credeur Christi Blanco: with Emily Credeur: to sum Christi Blanco: connectors? Emily Credeur: o I think Margert Todd: No. Emily Credeur: it's not Margert Todd: I think it it Mary Nardella: Yeah Margert Todd: kind Mary Nardella: it's Margert Todd: of Mary Nardella: it's Margert Todd: you just Mary Nardella: funny. Margert Todd: lose information if you sum it, Christi Blanco: Okay. Margert Todd: so. Christi Blanco: So let's move uh let's move on. Mary Nardella: Yeah, sure. Christi Blanco: Okay, now now we have to mm to estimate uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here, okay. We are going to go through so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: Well we decided against the solar cells so Christi Blanco: Oh Mary Nardella: Solar cells, Christi Blanco: yeah finally Mary Nardella: yeah yeah Christi Blanco: we say Mary Nardella: yeah Christi Blanco: no. Mary Nardella: yeah yeah, Christi Blanco: Okay Mary Nardella: we said no to Christi Blanco: so Mary Nardella: that. Christi Blanco: let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But Margert Todd: You mean, charging it by shaking the banana. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: Yeah. bring Christi Blanco: Okay Mary Nardella: the cost Christi Blanco: so we we stick to battery, one. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo. Margert Todd: Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually Christi Blanco: Ah you have to ah okay I see so kinetic is Emily Credeur: S Christi Blanco: really uh shaking the banana. Margert Todd: Yeah. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So Mary Nardella: Okay. Christi Blanco: we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the. Mary Nardella: So we have the regular chip on the print, Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: which is one. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: And that's it. Christi Blanco: Okay. No so we hin Mary Nardella: And we have sample speaker. Christi Blanco: Yeah so Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: one. Mary Nardella: Yeah. the cost of that is very high. Christi Blanco: Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. Margert Todd: Well Christi Blanco: So we Margert Todd: actually Christi Blanco: are Margert Todd: that that no that sample speaker is not we we're not using that, we're just using the Christi Blanco: The beep. Margert Todd: the very beep simple beep, that Mary Nardella: Uh-huh. Margert Todd: s that sample thing is Christi Blanco: That's Margert Todd: like Christi Blanco: what Margert Todd: the voice recording and Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: everything. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Christi Blanco: Okay so Margert Todd: So Christi Blanco: I'll remove it. Margert Todd: Yeah. I Christi Blanco: S Margert Todd: say that Yeah. Mary Nardella: And we have Christi Blanco: So Mary Nardella: sev Christi Blanco: don't we need a Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So Mary Nardella: So we we'll put some extras, if there is Christi Blanco: Yeah Mary Nardella: something. Christi Blanco: maybe. We'll see Margert Todd: Mm. Christi Blanco: later. Okay so in for the case um I put single curved. Mary Nardella: Okay. To reduce the cost, it's okay. Margert Todd: Well, wait a second, Christi Blanco: Because we Margert Todd: no, Christi Blanco: have two Margert Todd: it's Christi Blanco: things. Margert Todd: it's double curved, it's got a c, Mary Nardella: Oh Margert Todd: it's Mary Nardella: it's Margert Todd: uh Christi Blanco: No. Mary Nardella: got all the directions so don't worry. Margert Todd: Well d yeah it's monotonic but Mary Nardella: It's got a direction. Margert Todd: it's got but if you hold it if you hold it that way that's two curved, one on this side, one on that side, but they're opposite Christi Blanco: Well. Margert Todd: sides. Emily Credeur: Actually Christi Blanco: What a Emily Credeur: what's Christi Blanco: what Margert Todd: This Emily Credeur: the differen Margert Todd: is actually Christi Blanco: i Margert Todd: I mean Christi Blanco: if Margert Todd: this probably Christi Blanco: I put one here. Margert Todd: this probably actually costs more than three Christi Blanco: Yeah Margert Todd: if Christi Blanco: so Margert Todd: you Christi Blanco: let's put one here in the then Mary Nardella: Okay. Christi Blanco: instead of Mary Nardella: Okay. Christi Blanco: single oka all right. Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So we stick to plastic, it cost Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: nothing. Mary Nardella: That's right. Margert Todd: Well no didn't we say we wanted to do a rubber Christi Blanco: No, it's too no. Margert Todd: if you drop it? Emily Credeur: Too Christi Blanco: It's Emily Credeur: expensive. Christi Blanco: too expensive. Margert Todd: Well when Christi Blanco: We're Margert Todd: okay. Christi Blanco: already at Margert Todd: Well Christi Blanco: eleven. Margert Todd: we we'll come back we'll come back and see if we can fit it in. Christi Blanco: Okay so I put rubber one. Okay so special colour, yellow. Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Uh for the interface we have Mary Nardella: We don't have any push buttons. Margert Todd: No, we have two push buttons. Christi Blanco: We have three. Mary Nardella: No that is a scroll wheel itself, Margert Todd: Huh. Mary Nardella: it'll be put in that. Christi Blanco: No no. We have Mary Nardella: Ah Christi Blanco: two scroll, Mary Nardella: okay, okay. Christi Blanco: and Margert Todd: Uh. Christi Blanco: we have three push buttons. Mary Nardella: Okay, okay. Emily Credeur: Actually Margert Todd: Okay Christi Blanco: And Emily Credeur: whe Margert Todd: it's gonna Emily Credeur: whe Margert Todd: have to be plastic. Emily Credeur: when you wrote regular chip you should put two, because there is another chip here. Christi Blanco: No it's no chip. This is just radio frequency. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Th This Emily Credeur: Yeah Christi Blanco: is Emily Credeur: but Christi Blanco: no chip. Mary Nardella: No. Emily Credeur: you Mary Nardella: There's Emily Credeur: need Mary Nardella: no chip there. It just emits the signal. Christi Blanco: It's just Mary Nardella: And the receiver accepts it and Christi Blanco: Yeah. Emily Credeur: Fo Mary Nardella: that's Emily Credeur: i Mary Nardella: it. Emily Credeur: it does nothing actually? Christi Blanco: No. Mary Nardella: Just Christi Blanco: Just Mary Nardella: se sends the signal, Christi Blanco: only. Mary Nardella: that's it. Margert Todd: It's a recharger thing and uh Christi Blanco: Okay w we didn't think a thought about uh integrated scroll wheel push buttons. Margert Todd: Well I actually did um think about it myself but I thought you know because you could potentially you know you could be pushing it down as you scroll it for a instead of a turbo Christi Blanco: Yeah, Margert Todd: button but you know the turbo Christi Blanco: so Margert Todd: button does add that extra class. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: You know. So I mean if we're if we're over budget then maybe we could we could rethink that. Christi Blanco: Okay. So no L_C_D_, so for we have no button supplements, Mary Nardella: Yep. Christi Blanco: right? Mary Nardella: No. Christi Blanco: Uh well in fact could we could not we consider this button as a button supplement because oh no, these are these are for colours, co and special forms, special Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: colours and special materials. Margert Todd: No we're not we Christi Blanco: So Margert Todd: don't need anything special for Christi Blanco: Okay Margert Todd: the buttons. Christi Blanco: so we are over budget. Mary Nardella: Yeah. So first thing which we should take care of is, Margert Todd: Make it Mary Nardella: instead Margert Todd: plastic Mary Nardella: of Margert Todd: instead Mary Nardella: rubber, Margert Todd: of rubber. Mary Nardella: let Christi Blanco: Yeah. Mary Nardella: it be plastic. Margert Todd: And then we're basically o on budget except for you know ten cents. Mary Nardella: And uh that much money will be required for the base station, which is not there. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: So mayb in fact n we have to put two here because it cost nothing. Margert Todd: Yeah well Mary Nardella: Yeah. Margert Todd: pl the base station is made Mary Nardella: That's Margert Todd: out Mary Nardella: right. Margert Todd: of m many Mary Nardella: So Margert Todd: units of plastic. Mary Nardella: might be ninety centimes for the the remaining things which the cord and everything Christi Blanco: Exactly Mary Nardella: which'll go Christi Blanco: exactly so we have margin for that stuff. Mary Nardella: That's right. Margert Todd: Does that include charging circuitry and everything? Christi Blanco: Yeah maybe. Okay good. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Wha Excellent. Margert Todd: So what do we do with the extra profits? Christi Blanco: Um we'll invest in R_ and D_. Margert Todd: Okay. The next fruit. Christi Blanco: Yeah. So well we're under the the the cost. So we can go to through to project evaluation. Emily Credeur: Okay so now we have a product which nobody would would buy. Would yeah, would buy. Christi Blanco: Sorry? Margert Todd: No we have Emily Credeur: Yeah Margert Todd: a product Emily Credeur: because Margert Todd: which none of us would Emily Credeur: th Margert Todd: buy. Emily Credeur: th the evaluation Christi Blanco: Which is Emily Credeur: project Christi Blanco: different. Which is different. None of us will buy it. Margert Todd: No it's people in in in Milan and uh in Paris Emily Credeur: Ah would buy, Margert Todd: that Emily Credeur: yeah. Margert Todd: are gonna buy it. Emily Credeur: Massively, Margert Todd: We're n Emily Credeur: yeah. Margert Todd: yeah. We're not in Milan or Paris. Emily Credeur: Yeah. Okay. Uh you have been in Milan a couple of times, so. Margert Todd: Actually Christi Blanco: This Margert Todd: there Christi Blanco: is Margert Todd: were a lot Christi Blanco: a Margert Todd: of Christi Blanco: battery. Emily Credeur: And you said the lowest. Christi Blanco: This is Mary Nardella: S Christi Blanco: what we which you can mm Mary Nardella: Detachable battery. Margert Todd: That's 'cause I'm Christi Blanco: It Margert Todd: sick Christi Blanco: did Margert Todd: of Christi Blanco: yeah. Emily Credeur: Yeah, for Margert Todd: Milan. Emily Credeur: the batteries Christi Blanco: Extra battery, yeah. Exac Margert Todd: Okay so um project process. Christi Blanco: Well in fact I I did not know I didn't know really what to say here. If uh if you have any ideas of what we can we can say. So I don't I don't I don't understand what what they mean by satisfaction um and for and for example. Should it be more like um like a status of of the these meetings in fact. Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: Yeah well in fact uh we we use a little bit the white board and the digital pen, not that much. Margert Todd: I dunno I think we had a fair bit of creativity. Christi Blanco: Oh yeah it's really creative. Margert Todd: And uh but I think one thing we m missed out of this whole process was a um like a focus group with the actual people we're targeting. We needed some of these kind of young trendsetters Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: to come in and play with the banana and you know see if they Mary Nardella: They like that. Margert Todd: see if they like it. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Christi Blanco: Yeah maybe we should go through, yeah an uh evaluation. Margert Todd: Because yeah the evaluation for us is is kind of Mary Nardella: Biased. Margert Todd: pointless. Christi Blanco: So maybe you should we should do a kinda evaluation in the streets like asking to young peoples well, do you like Margert Todd: Yeah. Christi Blanco: to have a banana as a remote control. Margert Todd: Because Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: it it would also be interesting to uh you to know find out if we have a market in really young children as well, to see you know how to how to market this thing. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Margert Todd: 'Cause you know if well I mean maybe you don't wanna give all your kids their own remote because they'll be changing the channel all the time but you know maybe in some households where there is you know a T_V_ for each kid, then you know, banana remote control could be fun for them as well. Might Christi Blanco: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: have to draw a face on it. So but I think that's something we need to to work on next time is really finding out more about the target market. Christi Blanco: Yep. Any any new ideas we could uh we could investigate next time? Dunno, oranges? Mary Nardella: Yeah. The cost of the thing can be made more than might be. Because I think it's just the optimal, what we have done for the cost which we are looking forward to. Margert Todd: Yeah. I think there are ways we could maybe simplify the Mary Nardella: Interface. Margert Todd: Well Emily Credeur: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: just the the the circuit board that we're using inside, I'm Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: not sure really how complicated our um our needs are. I mean all we have is two push buttons and two scrollers, do we really need an integrated circuit to Christi Blanco: Hmm. Margert Todd: you Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: know to process Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: that. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Emily Credeur: So more general remote control instead of just focusing on uh on T_V_. Mary Nardella: That's Emily Credeur: The complexity Mary Nardella: right. Emily Credeur: shouldn't be much higher. Mary Nardella: Yeah. Emily Credeur: For you said if it good for D_V_D_ then I Margert Todd: And Emily Credeur: would Margert Todd: also fo you know for mood lighting and and stuff, that would be rather cool. I think that's actually something that should be in version two, is the ability to you know to control Mary Nardella: Integrate. Margert Todd: things other than the T_V_ and not just electronic equipment but you Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: know the whole environment of the room. Christi Blanco: Okay. Very good. Mary Nardella: So Christi Blanco: So Mary Nardella: What else? Christi Blanco: Well done. I Mary Nardella: Okay. Christi Blanco: think we we can go Mary Nardella: Home? Christi Blanco: home. Mary Nardella: Happily satisfied. Christi Blanco: Yeah. Maybe maybe we can hassle the the production department to to make a a real prototype that we can use at home to to evaluate. Mary Nardella: Mm-hmm. Margert Todd: Yep. Christi Blanco: Okay so thanks very much. Mary Nardella: Thank Margert Todd: Okay. Mary Nardella: you. Christi Blanco: Bye. Margert Todd: Thank you. Emily Credeur: Bye.	Christi Blanco goes through the minutes of the last meeting. They have the prototype presentation and talk about the final design, features, and power source, type of chip and weight of the remote. They go through the evaulations, using the a list of criteria made by Emily Credeur. They rate each criteria on a scale of 0 (true) to 7 (false): how fancy it is, how handy it is, how functional, how cool it is, whether they would spend twenty five euro for it, and whether they would change their current remote for this one. Next they do a cost estimate for production. In doing this, they decide against solar cells and go with the rechargable batteries. They keep the regular chip, stick with plastic, put two scroll wheels and three push buttons, and make it a special shade of yellow. They eliminate the turbo button and give the remote a single curve because of budget restrictions. They briefly evaulate the project process and close the meeting.	4	amisum	train
Michelle Young: Hello, uh Margaret Scott: Hello. Michelle Young: this Leah Dalton: Mm-hmm. Michelle Young: meeting Olivia Joyce: Hello. Michelle Young: we are it's fo should on the conceptual design of the remote. Um the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept and I think the last time we talked about an a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be, but uh in th at the end of this meeting we have to to reach a decision. So, uh we will have again three presentation, from all of you, and uh I hope will be fast because I would like to have to for long discussion and and decisions. So, who wants to start? Olivia Joyce: I s Michelle Young: Okay. Margaret Scott: Okay. Olivia Joyce: No, no, you you start. Margaret Scott: Okay, Michelle Young: So Margaret Scott: I'll Michelle Young: start, Margaret Scott: start. Michelle Young: uh Margaret Scott: Can open my presentation please. Michelle Young: Uh. Margaret Scott: I'm number four. Trend. Michelle Young: This one? Margaret Scott: Yep. Can you pass the mouse, please. Oh Michelle Young: Turn. Margaret Scott: okay, that's fine. Okay. Um so basically I just want to presented to you present to you some recent results we've had from um looking at uh um some remote control market research and some fashion trends around the world. Um fashion trends we got from talking our our contacts Um so f from our market research basically we've come to the conclusion that a fancy look and feel, um as opposed to a functional look and feel, is our number one priority. Um fancy is is Michelle Young: Hmm. Margaret Scott: is is Leah Dalton: Hmm. Margaret Scott: the, you know, highest priority. Secondly um that our remote control needs to be techn technologically innovative. Um so this is t number two priority but it's two times less important as the fancy criteria. Um and third thirdly the easiness of use is is the um is is important as well, but again two times less important as the technologically innovativeness of the remote control. From our f fashion people in Paris and Milan, um we've discovered that this year um fruit the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important thing in in clothes, shoes and furniture. So, I'm pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniture category. And also um the feel of material this year um is expected to be spongy. Michelle Young: Okay. Margaret Scott: Um so hopefully our remote control reflects that s in some way. Leah Dalton: What does it mean, spongy Margaret Scott: Uh sort of um squishy. Um. Leah Dalton: Like soft, or something? Margaret Scott: Yeah soft, like a uh Michelle Young: Like Margaret Scott: like a Michelle Young: a Margaret Scott: sponge. Michelle Young: sponge. Margaret Scott: I Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: don't Leah Dalton: Okay. Margaret Scott: know. Yeah. Leah Dalton: I will see. Margaret Scott: Um so in conclusion, we need a our remote control needs to be something that's really fancy, um has lots of technolog tech technology in it. Um somehow Leah Dalton: Okay. Margaret Scott: would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with a spongy feel. And that it's easy to use and from our last meeting our you know Fabian told us that w you know one of the requirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of our of th the Real Reaction company. Um. Michelle Young: Yeah, uh Margaret Scott: That's it. Michelle Young: yeah. Easy to use, is it uh a as much as important than technology or fancy thing. It's less important, right? Margaret Scott: Less important. So Michelle Young: Yeah yeah. Margaret Scott: um fanciness first and Michelle Young: Okay. Margaret Scott: then two ti you know, half as important as that is technology technology, and half important as technology is easy to use. So. Michelle Young: So, Hamed, can you. Olivia Joyce: Yeah. The second one. Could you please Michelle Young: Mm-hmm. Olivia Joyce: show the presentation number three. Leah Dalton: I think the biggest struggle will be the easy to use feature. We'll see. Olivia Joyce: Yeah. Michelle Young: Um. Number? Olivia Joyce: Three. Michelle Young: Three. This one? Olivia Joyce: Yes. Just Could you please check if it is the first one or the second. Uh, n n no, it's the first one. The second one. Michelle Young: So it's not this one. Olivia Joyce: Uh yeah. Okay. Okay So am going to talk about a little bit about how this remote control should be to be more easy to use I think uh I think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy, but okay, we can discuss about it uh later. Um generally, generally uh this remote control uh uh should be should be something, in my opinion, uh the first feature is just to be easy to use. So, the more frequent buttons should be larger, they should be placed in a good position uh uh inside the remote control. And uh s uh I can conclude like this, that we shouldn't need to learn how to use it. It should be we shouldn't need to es open a a t book and uh start reading and uh learning how to use this uh this uh remote control. Okay. So what I found out that uh as I said uh I think it's better to put uh more frequent uh uh uh ke uh buttons which are used more in the middle of the remote control, and they should be bigger in size. Uh the shape of remote control should be in a way which can which should be taken easily in hand. It should not be completely like uh a cube. It should be it should have round edge, so Leah Dalton: Exactly. Olivia Joyce: uh then it's easier. And maybe uh just like some toys, some joystick which is easier to take inside the hand. And uh also f uh uh m because because customers doesn't like to buy lots of battery, it should not uh consume lots of energy. Okay. And my personal p uh preference is uh, as I said, uh just putting this buttons in a special places and covered some buttons which are not used uh that much like settings button, like mobile phone. Usually some mobile phone cover the dialling number part, so we can cover these buttons which are not used or uh number buttons for the for the for the can channels, and just put uh volume change or s ch can uh channel change buttons uh uh in the remote control. And if the user needed to do some more complex task uh he he can open the cover and then change settings or something like this. Uh. And also uh I think if we put some some some some some buttons inside of the remote control it can be used easier. Not on remote control. I dunno if I can explain well. But uh just inside. For example, a sliding or rolling uh uh d uh stuff, if we put it inside then we can easily manipulate with uh thumb. So it can be another uh preference. And uh I dunno but uh I think usage of a speech recogn uh r recogniser can be good. I know that it consumes lots of energy, but if we do it in some way that it asleeps when there is no sound and when it detects some sound it may consume less energy. And I think it's good because it's something new and usually young people like something new. So it may not be very useful but because it's new, people may buy it. Uh I personally think there should be a big difference between uh between something. Otherwise they prefer to buy something which is coming from a famous company, or. Okay. That's mine. Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: Uh okay, so good news from Margaret Scott uh uh for Margaret Scott from Hamed, but bad news from Bob obviously, because spongy design, I don't like it as Okay, so could you please, Fabien, open it. Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: I'm person two. And which one, uh first one. I'm not sure but check the first one. I Most of the things I have to write myself on the Michelle Young: This Leah Dalton: board, Michelle Young: one, yeah. Leah Dalton: but Yeah, that's it. Just It's only this slide? Yeah. This this is just uh one thing I wanted to mention and show you that I just uh I just found this, that our company uh developed a s a seven f seven fingers or I'll just Margaret Scott: Inch. Leah Dalton: Yeah, seven seven inch T_ T_F_T_ screen, which is good news for us, since we wanted to include a display there. Uh so I I probably Michelle Young: Oh, Leah Dalton: draw it down raw scheme. This is this is the stuff that I Michelle Young: Oops. Leah Dalton: can use to Okay, so the this will be like the overall scheme or overall requirements from the engineering point of view. Uh first thing is uh this will be the overall shape, no uh I'm not speaking about the real shape of the device, but the shape of the inside of the device. So there will be some circuit uh for the power. So, say power circuit here. Uh the main energy will be taken from batteries that we can uh uh And if we decide to use the speech recognition stuff there, we must use additional source of energy, which I found the best is to use the solar cells which can which can uh supply everything. I was computing all the all the things related to the speech recognition, and it's okay to use just uh two batteries and solar cells, so. So no problem. There can be also solar cell. Uh the main board with all the circuits will take at least seven to seven centimetres, so this is my like hard requirement for the guys from the design. So Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Leah Dalton: at least seven to seven. It depends where you put your screen, because the screen is uh seven inch, so it depends on you where where you put it. It doesn't matter. Um it's just one cord from from the main board to the screen which can be elsewhere. So this will be T_F_T_. And on the main board we have the um interface to the microphone, which is somewhere, say here. Interface to the microphone. Then the graphical card uh for the T_F_T_ and the third unit is the I_R_. The good news is that we can uh we decided to use the infra-red unit because our company has also developed the chip for communication by the infra-red, including all the stuff inside, so it will be very cheap for us. So infra-red here. So the once again the overall requirements, seven to seven centimetres for the board, which has to be which can be spongy but has to be this size, and the T_F_T_ which is seven inches. Um I have to check what I wanted to Uh from my point of view I don't care about the about the material used for the overall des uh ov all the device. Michelle Young: Can you fit any uh for example a T_F_T_ or any electronic device in a spongy thing, or is there any problem for that? For example, put electronic card on a spongy thing, I can I can imagine it could be a problem. Leah Dalton: A all these things in in uh in this box are okay to put in in any shape, basically. But we Michelle Young: Yep. Leah Dalton: have to take care of the T_F_T_. Well, sponginess. Maybe it a good feature, since it takes if it's around the T_F_T_ Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: then it's Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: good, because it's just keeps it safe, I dunno. Olivia Joyce: Well maybe it Margaret Scott: So Olivia Joyce: can have two shells, a hard shell inside and a spongy Michelle Young: Okay. Olivia Joyce: shell Michelle Young: Maybe Olivia Joyce: outside. Michelle Young: put electronic in a box and a spongy thing around. Leah Dalton: Well, Michelle Young: maybe after. Margaret Scott: So Leah Dalton: it's maybe Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: Ca Leah Dalton: related to the U_I_. Margaret Scott: Can I ask a question. Leah Dalton: A Yeah, that's all from Margaret Scott. Margaret Scott: This seven inch T_F_T_ screen, Leah Dalton: Yeah? Margaret Scott: how big is it in reality? Leah Dalton: Well, seven to seven inches. Margaret Scott: So like that. Leah Dalton: Yes. Margaret Scott: That's quite big. Uh uh have we decided that we're gonna use this T_F_T_ screen? Leah Dalton: Yeah Michelle Young: No, Leah Dalton: but Michelle Young: I don't think it's seven by seven, I think it's Leah Dalton: To Michelle Young: seven Leah Dalton: be honest, Michelle Young: the diagonal Leah Dalton: I was Michelle Young: is seven. Usually when they say Margaret Scott: But Michelle Young: seven Margaret Scott: I mean even Olivia Joyce: Yeah Michelle Young: inch Margaret Scott: even Michelle Young: I Olivia Joyce: yes. Margaret Scott: that Michelle Young: think Margaret Scott: is Michelle Young: it's Margaret Scott: like Michelle Young: the Margaret Scott: this Michelle Young: diagonal. Margaret Scott: big. Michelle Young: Yeah. I dunno I dun I dun One each. But, yeah, Leah Dalton: Yeah, honestly speaking I was thinking that it was seven centimetres initially, Margaret Scott: Yeah. Leah Dalton: but it's seven inches. But I I think we can we can cut it. Margaret Scott: You can cut the T_F_T_ screen. Leah Dalton: Yeah, no no problem, Michelle Young: Let's Leah Dalton: because Michelle Young: go. Leah Dalton: because because then the size of the graphic card will be one fourth. So Yeah, but no Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: problem Michelle Young: let's cut Leah Dalton: to Michelle Young: the Leah Dalton: to Michelle Young: T_F_T_. Leah Dalton: Margaret Scott to cut the screen. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Margaret Scott: Okay, so Leah Dalton: So so for the same price we have four Michelle Young: Mm. Leah Dalton: screens now. Margaret Scott: Okay. Michelle Young: These technical engineers, huh. Margaret Scott: So, what's the size of the device? Leah Dalton: Ah well this is like this is almost nothing. Seven to seven to at least well some three millimetres or something. Margaret Scott: Even from my perspective seven t seven centimetres by seven centimetres is still Leah Dalton: Yeah, but we wanted the big Margaret Scott: Is it Leah Dalton: buttons Margaret Scott: Can you hold Leah Dalton: and Margaret Scott: that, Leah Dalton: stuff Margaret Scott: or? Leah Dalton: like that, you know. Because if it's t too small we can we can lose it, at home, you know. Michelle Young: What user wants. He wants a small remote control, Olivia Joyce: Uh. Margaret Scott: Yeah, Michelle Young: or? Uh Margaret Scott: a small Michelle Young: uh Leah Dalton: I thought Margaret Scott: c Leah Dalton: that Margaret Scott: control Leah Dalton: it it Margaret Scott: that they Leah Dalton: should Margaret Scott: can Michelle Young: with Leah Dalton: fit Margaret Scott: hold Michelle Young: big Margaret Scott: in Leah Dalton: in Margaret Scott: hand. Leah Dalton: the Michelle Young: buttons. Leah Dalton: hand or Olivia Joyce: Yes. Leah Dalton: something. Michelle Young: It's difficult. A Margaret Scott: But Michelle Young: sm Margaret Scott: is something that's seven centimetres square e easy to hold? Leah Dalton: W I I think so. I if the roller buttons are on the side you don't have to catch it like that, but just like this, and you know follow follow Well, that's that's no task for Margaret Scott, but well Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: seven Michelle Young: maybe you Leah Dalton: to Michelle Young: can Leah Dalton: seven Michelle Young: finish Leah Dalton: at least Michelle Young: your presentation, Leah Dalton: yeah, but Michelle Young: and afterwards we will discuss Olivia Joyce: Maybe this. Leah Dalton: Oh, Michelle Young: about Margaret Scott: Okay. Leah Dalton: okay. Michelle Young: all this. Leah Dalton: Okay thanks. Michelle Young: That's it. Okay. So. No. Uh, so I think we have a lot We have to take decision today, so I think we have to do some work to finalise our idea and take decisions. Uh first I think energy it's a key problem because uh it depend what can we have as feature if we use only batteries, for example, or something like that. Because can we have L_C_D_ and speech recognition with battery, and it's Leah Dalton: Not Michelle Young: also r related to the size of the of the devi of the Leah Dalton: J Michelle Young: device? Leah Dalton: uh just a point to the energy th things. Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: so no problem in energy, Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: I think. Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: But Olivia Joyce: So but Leah Dalton: we have to use the solar cell. Otherwise Michelle Young: Uh Leah Dalton: not. Michelle Young: like but using how many batteries, for example? Are are what Maybe what is the size of the battery Leah Dalton: Yeah I was thinking just common A_A_ cells. Michelle Young: Okay. Uh Leah Dalton: So like Michelle Young: one Leah Dalton: three Michelle Young: two Leah Dalton: to five centimetres, I dunno exactly, Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: but. Margaret Scott: So if we use s solar cells, um Leah Dalton: S Margaret Scott: where is the sun if someone's watching Leah Dalton: Uh Margaret Scott: T_V_ Leah Dalton: d Margaret Scott: inside? Leah Dalton: doesn't need to be sun. It it's just the daylight, you know. Michelle Young: The Margaret Scott: Okay. Michelle Young: television Leah Dalton: Yeah well I I Michelle Young: lights. Leah Dalton: suppose that I suppose that uh that this remote control won't be in the in the room like this, where there is light only when Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Leah Dalton: when there are people, but. Michelle Young: At least when there is T_V_ you can get light Leah Dalton: Yeah Michelle Young: from Leah Dalton: from the Michelle Young: the Leah Dalton: T_ Michelle Young: T_V_. Olivia Joyce: Yeah. Leah Dalton: I don't think it's enough, uh. Michelle Young: I dunno. Margaret Scott: Okay. Michelle Young: Okay. Mm. Leah Dalton: Ah it's a it's a compromise, no? Michelle Young: At least it's new and maybe technology Leah Dalton: Yeah, Michelle Young: New Leah Dalton: that's Margaret Scott: It's Michelle Young: technology. Leah Dalton: why I Margaret Scott: it's Leah Dalton: wanted Margaret Scott: quite innovative, Leah Dalton: to to include Margaret Scott: yes. Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: the speech recognition, Olivia Joyce: Hmm. Leah Dalton: because you wanted Michelle Young: Um. Leah Dalton: all the new Margaret Scott: And if you Leah Dalton: things. Margaret Scott: watch T_V_ outside it's very Michelle Young: So Margaret Scott: useful. Michelle Young: I think before talking about the other thing, it's important thing it's the case. Uh what what are gonna be the size, because its weight drives the other what we are going to use as features and so on. For example for the for the L_C_D_, if we choose to have a small device, we cannot use this um a such a a a screen. Leah Dalton: Uh the s the screen is okay, but the board, uh that's the problem. Well what what would you guess as a shape? Or what Olivia Joyce: Mm. Leah Dalton: what would be the shape? Olivia Joyce: I think I think their being uh large or small is not important. The only important thing is to be able to take it in uh inside hand easily. So let's say Leah Dalton: Mm. Olivia Joyce: an average size, okay, and it should not be very heavy also. And I prefer to is it shouldn't have a uniform shape, so in the middle it should be a little bit thinner, maybe maybe. So we c it's like like some joysticks. You can take uh some some joystick you can take inside hand easier because it's it's designed for your f uh taking into account your finger shape and your palm shape. So the general shape should be like this. I think uh seven centimetre by seven centimetre is a little bit large. So uh Leah Dalton: Okay. Olivia Joyce: seven not seven but let's say five by ten it's I think it's that's my opinion. Margaret Scott: Which Olivia Joyce: It's Margaret Scott: is the same Olivia Joyce: easier. Margaret Scott: area. Olivia Joyce: Yeah. Margaret Scott: Could Leah Dalton: Okay. Margaret Scott: you re could you redesign your board? Leah Dalton: Five to ten. Margaret Scott: Oh, five Leah Dalton: Well that Margaret Scott: five centimetres by ten centimetres. Leah Dalton: Yeah, right. Margaret Scott: Yeah. Leah Dalton: Yeah, I think it's feasib Well one um um How could we do it? We could put the board next to, well, under the L_C_D_ and for Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Leah Dalton: example make the L_C_D_ be totally unrelated to the thing that you hold in your hand. Like holding something, and the L_C_D_ to be just on top of it, you know somehow. Well But maybe Michelle Young: Oh. Leah Dalton: let's stick to the s spongy thing, like one unit. Michelle Young: I've Leah Dalton: Well Michelle Young: I Leah Dalton: fi Michelle Young: s Leah Dalton: five Michelle Young: I Leah Dalton: to Michelle Young: think Leah Dalton: ten it would be feasible. Michelle Young: the easiest thing would be to to have a smaller L_C_D_, if it's possible. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Leah Dalton: Okay, so five to ten, I I think it's it's Michelle Young: Okay. Leah Dalton: feasible. Michelle Young: So we Leah Dalton: I'll make Michelle Young: are agree Leah Dalton: it. Michelle Young: with a small Olivia Joyce: Or Leah Dalton: Fo Michelle Young: L_C_D_. Olivia Joyce: uh Leah Dalton: Five by ten. Olivia Joyce: or I don't know but I don't want to now invent something new, because we didn't discuss about it. So using some L_C_D_s we can touch, so we can remove uh keys and just uh having uh, I dunno the name, L_C_D_ responding to fingers. Michelle Young: Yeah. Olivia Joyce: Touching the screen. Something Michelle Young: Tactile Olivia Joyce: like Margaret Scott: Mm, Michelle Young: or something, Margaret Scott: touch screen. Michelle Young: yeah. Touch screen, yeah. Olivia Joyce: So But for now if we don't want to use such kind of screens Michelle Young: Yeah. Olivia Joyce: I I think we using a a smaller screen is better, because Michelle Young: The problem is we have a limit in a month of time, so we cannot do Leah Dalton: Mm-hmm. Michelle Young: something very new. So Margaret Scott: So Michelle Young: let's go Leah Dalton: Okay, Michelle Young: for Leah Dalton: so Michelle Young: a small L_C_D_. Leah Dalton: Yeah, so Olivia Joyce: A smaller Leah Dalton: so just Olivia Joyce: s Leah Dalton: just give Margaret Scott the the the five by ten numbers that Michelle Young: Yeah Leah Dalton: you find Michelle Young: okay. Leah Dalton: the best and send Olivia Joyce: Okay. Leah Dalton: it Margaret Scott and Michelle Young: So, Leah Dalton: I will Michelle Young: five Leah Dalton: work Michelle Young: by Leah Dalton: it Michelle Young: s Leah Dalton: out. Michelle Young: ten. Leah Dalton: Hmm. Michelle Young: Um so what about, so the case we talked about. Um something easy to use, you said something easy to use but how does that fit in a fashion way, like with fruit and vegetable, and about the colour and logo of the of the company and so on, now, can we do that? My first idea is because our colour is more yellow, and the it should be easy to take in a hand, I thought about banana, or something like that, which is fruits, and Leah Dalton: Seven to ten banana. Michelle Young: A big Leah Dalton: Okay. Michelle Young: banana. Leah Dalton: Rather mango or something or. Michelle Young: Um. Margaret Scott: Well it's it's definitely the obvious choice, with the colour of Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: our company. I mean what Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: other Michelle Young: But Margaret Scott: what other fruit Michelle Young: it's just Margaret Scott: and vegetables Michelle Young: an idea. I dunno what you think Margaret Scott: Do you Michelle Young: about, Margaret Scott: know of any any other fruit Michelle Young: but Margaret Scott: and vegetables that are yellow? Michelle Young: Yeah. I dunno if it can fit with the technology. You are the specialists of that. Leah Dalton: You mean banana. Well, but If it's If it If the banana is big enough. Then, yes. Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: But if you want to look at the screen, no. Well Michelle Young: Yeah, and Olivia Joyce: I think this Michelle Young: The Olivia Joyce: is Michelle Young: screen has Olivia Joyce: not good. Michelle Young: to be square? Or it can be like a a shape, quite, Leah Dalton: Well, Michelle Young: uh Leah Dalton: it can Michelle Young: with Leah Dalton: be Michelle Young: curves. Leah Dalton: whatever you want. But Michelle Young: It could. Leah Dalton: if it's square then we get four screens out of one by cutting just. But if you want some shape then we Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: can only get like two screens out of seven to seven inches, Olivia Joyce: Mm. Leah Dalton: so. It's like more more expensive to have shape like that. But I don't care. You know, if we fit Margaret Scott: Well Leah Dalton: this requirement. Margaret Scott: I'd like a shaped screen. I think that's more important than saving Leah Dalton: Okay Michelle Young: Okay Margaret Scott: a bit Michelle Young: okay. Margaret Scott: of money on Olivia Joyce: Mm. Margaret Scott: on the T_F_T_ screen. Leah Dalton: Yeah, m maybe the banana could be like a bit uh fatter than than the c Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: c common Michelle Young: Yeah, Leah Dalton: one. Michelle Young: it should Leah Dalton: But Michelle Young: remember banana, but it's not doesn't have to b Leah Dalton: Like modified Michelle Young: to be uh uh Leah Dalton: banana, okay. Michelle Young: really the size and exactly the shape of a banana. Leah Dalton: Well it we'll stick to banana, or? Olivia Joyce: Okay. Margaret Scott: Yeah, banana's Michelle Young: Okay. Margaret Scott: good. Leah Dalton: Okay. Margaret Scott: Okay. Leah Dalton: Mm-mm. Michelle Young: So, the last point we decided it's infra-red, I guess. Olivia Joyce: Yeah, I Leah Dalton: Yeah, Michelle Young: Everybody's Olivia Joyce: think infra-red. Leah Dalton: yeah. Michelle Young: agreed. Leah Dalton: Sure. Michelle Young: Uh, so that's it I think about the concepts. You have other thing to add to this point, or uh no? So, uh about the user interface, so we are going to use L_C_D_. In the last meeting we talked about uh hidden buttons. I don't know what we are going to do with that. You Leah Dalton: Like Michelle Young: talked Leah Dalton: like Michelle Young: about Leah Dalton: peeling Michelle Young: the Leah Dalton: of Michelle Young: buttons Leah Dalton: the banana Michelle Young: on the Olivia Joyce: Yeah, Michelle Young: side Leah Dalton: you s Olivia Joyce: peeling of the banana. Leah Dalton: It Michelle Young: Mm Leah Dalton: would be cool, yeah. Michelle Young: what? Leah Dalton: Peeling of the banana, you know, Olivia Joyce: Yeah. Leah Dalton: should should discover the other buttons, Olivia Joyce: Mm. Leah Dalton: which are hidden. Michelle Young: Yeah. Okay. And you mean the first layer would be spongy. Olivia Joyce: Yeah. Leah Dalton: First layer obviously spo Yeah, w Michelle Young: So Leah Dalton: It's it's like Michelle Young: Is Leah Dalton: silly, but the people Michelle Young: it Leah Dalton: will really appreciate Michelle Young: is Leah Dalton: it, yeah Michelle Young: it Leah Dalton: I think. Michelle Young: possible to do that? It would be a great idea, but is it possible technically? Olivia Joyce: Uh Michelle Young: Like doing a spongy layer of Margaret Scott: I think Michelle Young: the banana, Margaret Scott: if we Michelle Young: and Margaret Scott: if Michelle Young: you Margaret Scott: we Michelle Young: open Margaret Scott: have a Michelle Young: it. Margaret Scott: spongy layer on the outside of the banana then Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: it's easy to make that, you know, to Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Margaret Scott: manipulate that Michelle Young: Yeah. Margaret Scott: to Olivia Joyce: Yeah, Michelle Young: Yeah. Olivia Joyce: some Margaret Scott: hav be a cover that you can pull off and Olivia Joyce: Something like a plastic cover covering uh some interface, U_S_B_ interface as in the in uh digital camera. If you see it's like peeling. You open a plastic cover and you see some U_S_B_ interfaces, some some interfaces for adaptor. So keys can be uh buttons can be covered like this, with a plastic cover and uh when uh and when you open this cover it's like peeling a banana. So, something like this. Michelle Young: Yeah, but do you see that as a rigid thing, or like like a banana, something very soft, you can open like banana, or. Leah Dalton: Well is it possible to make it soft? Olivia Joyce: Yeah, yeah, Michelle Young: Yeah. Olivia Joyce: yeah it's a lic like a plastic cover, so. Leah Dalton: So I think Michelle Young: So, Leah Dalton: if it's so then it's Michelle Young: I dunno Leah Dalton: cool? Michelle Young: what you think, Bob, but it would be great for users I think, and very Margaret Scott: I think for Michelle Young: good Margaret Scott: sure. Michelle Young: for marketing. Margaret Scott: Definitely. The softer the better. Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: Cool. Margaret Scott: Yeah. Leah Dalton: Honestly speaking, I cannot imagine it, so far, but Michelle Young: Yeah. Leah Dalton: it will be terrible. Michelle Young: Um. Leah Dalton: Mm. Michelle Young: And setting buttons hidden in. Michelle Young: Mm, other remarks, or something, or. Something we didn't talk about yes yet, or. I think we are almost there. Uh maybe, how can we, if we have a soft thing, like this, and to open it we have to attach it somewhere, I dunno how to do that technically, or. Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Michelle Young: And how Leah Dalton: Pof. Margaret Scott: We could use Velcro. Michelle Young: Yeah, maybe. Margaret Scott: Or uh ma maybe a magnetic Olivia Joyce: Yes, yeah it's a good idea. Margaret Scott: thing. Olivia Joyce: Magnetic. Michelle Young: Ma magnetic oh. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Yeah or a Yeah it can is it can be a plastic cover uh sticking to the to the all the stuff like uh with magnetic p uh magnetic uh magnetic uh materials in the border, so it's it sticks like refrigerator door, completely. Michelle Young: Okay. Olivia Joyce: And when you try to open it, it will be opened easily. So you you can be sure that it will not be open while you're uh while while uh you are commonly using uh buttons on Michelle Young: Okay. Olivia Joyce: the banana. Michelle Young: And what would be the matter here of the first layer I mean? Mm. Likes. Soft plastic, or Margaret Scott: Yeah, I imagine some sort of vinyl Michelle Young: Yeah, Margaret Scott: thing. Michelle Young: yeah, yeah. Margaret Scott: In a in a sort of a with a suede sort of feel. Maybe. Leah Dalton: Well since since the since the things like the like the screen and um how to say that, solar cell has to be has to be like kept kept in the shape, we cannot b uh So we need that the that the peeling uh I dunno but we should we should take care of these two two things. So, if if uh the solar cell won't be visible while the banana is closed, then the material must be able to put the light inside, you know. So that we can reach the energy out of it out of that. Margaret Scott: Mm. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Margaret Scott: So you're saying is it possible to have a solar cell and this removable cover Leah Dalton: It is Margaret Scott: and Leah Dalton: possible, but, well if Margaret Scott: And Leah Dalton: it Margaret Scott: a and a banana. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Leah Dalton: I dunno. I dunno how to how to do it if if t if to if it's better to put the solar cell to the t to the peeling or outside it, Michelle Young: Hmm. Margaret Scott: Yeah. Leah Dalton: or or inside. But then it must be some window there, Margaret Scott: Okay. Leah Dalton: you know. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Michelle Young: And something we forgot, maybe, uh about the speech recognition system, are we going to use it, or not? Olivia Joyce: Yes, I think. Margaret Scott: I think Olivia Joyce: I Margaret Scott: it's Olivia Joyce: think Margaret Scott: important. Olivia Joyce: so. Michelle Young: It Margaret Scott: I think Michelle Young: i Yeah, Margaret Scott: One Michelle Young: it seems Margaret Scott: of our Michelle Young: feasible, Margaret Scott: p Michelle Young: and it Margaret Scott: priorities Michelle Young: would be Margaret Scott: is Michelle Young: something Margaret Scott: tech Michelle Young: very Margaret Scott: technology. Michelle Young: great. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Margaret Scott: And Michelle Young: So we have the de design, the a good shape, Olivia Joyce: Mm-hmm. Michelle Young: new and so on, and we have also the technology thing w will be. Margaret Scott: Mm-hmm. Michelle Young: And Olivia Joyce: Mm. Michelle Young: even the easy to use thing, so it will be perfect. Olivia Joyce: Mm. Michelle Young: So Margaret Scott: Yeah. Michelle Young: we add also Leah Dalton: Yeah. Michelle Young: the speech recognition device. Leah Dalton: I agree. Michelle Young: So, that great. We have decided everything. And think we are on a good way. So, um uh the next meeting will start in thirty minutes. Um, so uh the the Industrial Manager uh will uh will work on the look and feel design. The User Interface uh uh Mana uh Manager will work on the user interface device. And the Margaret Scott will do the first project evaluation. Margaret Scott: Okay. Michelle Young: So, I hope you can do that in thirty minutes. And uh, yeah, I uh I think you should work together, s you uh Hamed and Peter, to work uh in a in a first prototype, and uh more about the shape and so on and how you can manage to put everything together. And um as usual you will receive some specific instructions on. So Leah Dalton: Okay. Michelle Young: thank you all everybody, and see you in thirty minutes. Margaret Scott: Okay. Thank Leah Dalton: Okay. Margaret Scott: you. Olivia Joyce: Thank you.	Michelle Young stated that the goal for the current meeting was to decide upon a concept for the remote the team is creating. Margaret Scott discussed his findings from trend watching reports. He found that current trends are such that a product must have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif, and must be spongy. Olivia Joyce discussed how to create an interface for a remote that is easy to use. Olivia Joyce discussed the placement of commonly used buttons, the overall shape of a remote, and how to hide less commonly used buttons. Leah Dalton discussed various components and energy sources the remote could include. Leah Dalton focused on the use of a TFT screen and the use of solar cells to supplement the energy from two regular batteries. The team then discussed and made decisions regarding the option to use solar cells, the specifications of an LCD screen, how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif into their design, and how to hide lesser used buttons.	4	amisum	train
Jacquelyn Horton: Oops. Constance Bowen: So, hello everyone. We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a f for the beginning of new project um uh remote control for the design for a new remote control. I'm Constance Bowen Christa Pavlov and okay let's begin. So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan, some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design, it's conceptual design, and desail detailed design. and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um, so let's try the whiteboard. Rebecca Truett: Wow. Constance Bowen: Um so any of you who want to go. Jacquelyn Horton: Yeah, for favourite animals. It's not favourite one but the I can draw. And it's gonna be you'll try to guess. Rebecca Truett: Wow. Constance Bowen: Wow. Rebecca Truett: Complex. Huh? A cat. Helen Guerra: No. Jacquelyn Horton: No. Rebecca Truett: No. Darn. Uh. Constance Bowen: A rabbit. Jacquelyn Horton: Yes, that's a rabbit. Rebecca Truett: A Jacquelyn Horton: That's Rebecca Truett: what? Jacquelyn Horton: my favourite Constance Bowen: A Jacquelyn Horton: one. Constance Bowen: rabbit. Rebecca Truett: A r Helen Guerra: Rabbit. Rebecca Truett: a rabbit, oh oh yeah, where is the carrot? Okay Jacquelyn Horton: That's Rebecca Truett: mm-hmm. Jacquelyn Horton: it. Constance Bowen: You want to go? Rebecca Truett: I am not very good at Jacquelyn Horton: Hmm. Rebecca Truett: uh this kind of stuff. My favourite animal is Jacquelyn Horton: Wow. Helen Guerra: You wa Constance Bowen: A human Rebecca Truett: Guess. Constance Bowen: ah. Rebecca Truett: A human, yay. It's a very complex animal Jacquelyn Horton: No. Rebecca Truett: and um yeah. Characteristics of this this animal is dangerous. Constance Bowen: Mm I think Helen Guerra: Is Constance Bowen: you're Helen Guerra: the white Constance Bowen: supposed to, yeah. Helen Guerra: okay. Constance Bowen: Hmm. Helen Guerra: I guess you can. Jacquelyn Horton: Wow. That's cobra. Rebecca Truett: of uh snake? Cobra? Exactly. Helen Guerra: Yeah uh not really. Small cobra. Jacquelyn Horton: No, it just small cobra, yeah. Rebecca Truett: Uh-huh. Constance Bowen: Is that Jacquelyn Horton: It's Constance Bowen: a worm? Jacquelyn Horton: co c Constance Bowen: Or Jacquelyn Horton: quite recognisable. Rebecca Truett: What about you Constance Bowen: Uh yeah Christa Pavlov Rebecca Truett: uh Christa? Helen Guerra: Chris. Jacquelyn Horton: Christa Christa. Constance Bowen: Mm. Rebecca Truett: A fish. Helen Guerra: Mm. Jacquelyn Horton: Hmm. Constance Bowen: Smiling fish. Helen Guerra: Smile fish. Rebecca Truett: A smiling fish. Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Jacquelyn Horton: Okay. Rebecca Truett: So, w whiteboard is working? Helen Guerra: Yeah. Constance Bowen: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: Good. Next. Constance Bowen: Next. Let's talk about money. Rebecca Truett: Yeah, well. Jacquelyn Horton: According to the drawings. Rebecca Truett: Not Rebecca Truett. Helen Guerra: Yeah, Jacquelyn Horton: Okay. Helen Guerra: you're Rebecca Truett: So. Constance Bowen: So. Rebecca Truett: Twenty five Euro for a Constance Bowen: Yeah, Rebecca Truett: remote control. Constance Bowen: mm that's the price Helen Guerra: Hmm. Constance Bowen: we want to that's Rebecca Truett: Okay. Constance Bowen: the aim for the price for the remote control. We aim to do this profit. Rebecca Truett: 'tis big number. Jacquelyn Horton: On the Constance Bowen: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: international market. Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Helen Guerra: Yeah, we're to sell two million then. Jacquelyn Horton: Wow. Rebecca Truett: Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum. 'Kay. So any of you have experience in remote controls? Rebecca Truett: Uh Helen Guerra: Mm Rebecca Truett: yes, Helen Guerra: yeah. Rebecca Truett: we have plenty at home. In fact, my daughter likes l remote Constance Bowen: That Jacquelyn Horton: Mm. Rebecca Truett: controls. Jacquelyn Horton: To eat? Rebecca Truett: To eat? Yeah, mainly, and to break. Constance Bowen: So that could be a great um application. Remote controls children proof. Rebecca Truett: Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm Rebecca Truett: Yeah. Constance Bowen: mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: Ye Jacquelyn Horton: Children Rebecca Truett: ye Jacquelyn Horton: proof. Rebecca Truett: yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: Hmm. Rebecca Truett: So she likes uh buttons Helen Guerra: Yeah, Constance Bowen: Okay. Helen Guerra: pret Rebecca Truett: which make click, so it has to click. Constance Bowen: So they have to be waterproof Rebecca Truett: It has Constance Bowen: maybe? Rebecca Truett: to be uh Constance Bowen: 'Cause Rebecca Truett: wha Constance Bowen: they Rebecca Truett: baby Constance Bowen: eat Rebecca Truett: proof Constance Bowen: she ate Rebecca Truett: yeah Constance Bowen: it. Rebecca Truett: but mainly it has to be very robust because Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: even if Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: she's not very tall she's uh high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh Helen Guerra: Ah. Rebecca Truett: So it has to be very robust. Jacquelyn Horton: Okay, unbreakable. Rebecca Truett: Unbreakable, Jacquelyn Horton: Uh-huh. Rebecca Truett: yeah. Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: And uh it has to be nice looking, Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: colourful, Constance Bowen: Colourful, Rebecca Truett: maybe Jacquelyn Horton: Colourful? Constance Bowen: yeah mm. Jacquelyn Horton: That's not Rebecca Truett: colourful, Jacquelyn Horton: practical. Rebecca Truett: because Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: uh nobody has colourful Constance Bowen: No, that's Helen Guerra: Yeah, it's Constance Bowen: a Rebecca Truett: remote Constance Bowen: good Helen Guerra: always Rebecca Truett: control, Constance Bowen: idea. Rebecca Truett: they're Helen Guerra: black Rebecca Truett: always black, Helen Guerra: or Rebecca Truett: yeah, Constance Bowen: Mm Jacquelyn Horton: No. Helen Guerra: yeah. Constance Bowen: mm-mm. Rebecca Truett: but this one could be I dunno, purple Jacquelyn Horton: But how Constance Bowen: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: gonna Rebecca Truett: or b Jacquelyn Horton: okay, just uh but it's uh monochrome it's Helen Guerra: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: n it's not like Rebecca Truett: Yeah, yeah. Constance Bowen: No, Helen Guerra: Yeah. Constance Bowen: because you think, Rebecca Truett: One colour. Constance Bowen: why Jacquelyn Horton: Otherwise Constance Bowen: not. Jacquelyn Horton: you will never find Helen Guerra: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: it. Rebecca Truett: Yeah, Helen Guerra: Yeah Rebecca Truett: yeah. Helen Guerra: even we can change colours, no? Like the uh Rebecca Truett: Oh like the phones, Helen Guerra: like the phones Rebecca Truett: yeah, Helen Guerra: and these Rebecca Truett: it Helen Guerra: things Jacquelyn Horton: Cool. Rebecca Truett: could change Helen Guerra: we c Rebecca Truett: colours, Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: yeah. Helen Guerra: yeah. At least for children like Jacquelyn Horton: Ch Helen Guerra: one colour and. Rebecca Truett: Yeah. Good. Constance Bowen: Good idea. Helen Guerra: And it should be really small and. Constance Bowen: Small also? Don't Helen Guerra: Huh Constance Bowen: you think Helen Guerra: not so big like Constance Bowen: No Helen Guerra: yeah. Constance Bowen: uh, not too much buttons or Helen Guerra: Yeah, not Constance Bowen: mm. Helen Guerra: too much buttons and Rebecca Truett: Should it be, y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television, then it's the remote control for the Helen Guerra: Uh. Rebecca Truett: the sound system, or Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: for your refrigerator whatever Constance Bowen: Yeah, Rebecca Truett: I dunno Constance Bowen: that's Rebecca Truett: if it's Or if we should have a targeted re remote control. Constance Bowen: Okay. So, Rebecca Truett: So Constance Bowen: I Rebecca Truett: colour, Constance Bowen: think Rebecca Truett: robustness, Constance Bowen: there's Rebecca Truett: easy to use, size, yeah, size matters, Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: yeah. Helen Guerra: Colour, size, Constance Bowen: So Helen Guerra: sh Constance Bowen: you you think it's better if small than bigger. Helen Guerra: Yeah, Rebecca Truett: Mm. Helen Guerra: maybe at least n not bigger than this I Jacquelyn Horton: Yeah, Helen Guerra: guess. Jacquelyn Horton: but without any extremes like n not of this size, Constance Bowen: No, Jacquelyn Horton: not Helen Guerra: Yeah Constance Bowen: not Jacquelyn Horton: too Constance Bowen: too Jacquelyn Horton: large. Helen Guerra: yeah, Constance Bowen: small, Jacquelyn Horton: Okay. Constance Bowen: yeah. Rebecca Truett: Yeah. Helen Guerra: at least it should hold in your hand n properly, like. Constance Bowen: Hmm. Jacquelyn Horton: Yeah, like a palm sized. Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: Mm. Jacquelyn Horton: Just to hold it. Constance Bowen: Okay. Rebecca Truett: But uh what would be different from this, from the others? I dunno if Helen Guerra: Uh maybe we can change the colours that at least the frame. Rebecca Truett: Yeah, at Helen Guerra: Mm. Rebecca Truett: least the colour Helen Guerra: S Rebecca Truett: would Helen Guerra: so Rebecca Truett: be different. Helen Guerra: then it depends you are to Constance Bowen: Mm. Helen Guerra: Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame. Rebecca Truett: I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're they never find a good button in the right Helen Guerra: Yeah, Rebecca Truett: place. Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Helen Guerra: yeah. Rebecca Truett: For some reason they they Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: they click the off button when they want to use the Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow, Constance Bowen: Mm. Rebecca Truett: I Constance Bowen: So, Rebecca Truett: dunno. Constance Bowen: some kind of idea uh with um um cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what Jacquelyn Horton: No, no Constance Bowen: no. Jacquelyn Horton: screens, it's too complex. Constance Bowen: Okay. Helen Guerra: Mm. Rebecca Truett: Too expensive for twelve Euro? Helen Guerra: Too expensive, Jacquelyn Horton: And n Helen Guerra: yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: maybe Constance Bowen: And Jacquelyn Horton: not Constance Bowen: too expensive. Jacquelyn Horton: too expensive, well it's not my problem, but well Rebecca Truett: Ah. Jacquelyn Horton: okay. But no screens on remote controls. Rebecca Truett: Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm. Rebecca Truett: I thought it could be only a screen which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user. So ma Jacquelyn Horton: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: I prefer to have the off button at the top right, Helen Guerra: Ye yeah. Rebecca Truett: so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch Helen Guerra: Hmm. Rebecca Truett: screen remote control, if you if you like. Helen Guerra: I mean it Rebecca Truett: I don't Helen Guerra: it's Rebecca Truett: know if Helen Guerra: like Rebecca Truett: it makes sense, but Constance Bowen: Mm-mm. Helen Guerra: it's like two types no? people are right handed or left handed so y because Rebecca Truett: Yeah, Helen Guerra: I am left Rebecca Truett: for Helen Guerra: handed Rebecca Truett: instance, Helen Guerra: I use like Rebecca Truett: mm. Helen Guerra: this, say if you're right handed you use Jacquelyn Horton: Mm-hmm, Helen Guerra: like this or Jacquelyn Horton: mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: Mm. Helen Guerra: so Constance Bowen: Mm Helen Guerra: tha Constance Bowen: mm mm. Helen Guerra: your switch on and off should be Constance Bowen: So adaptable Helen Guerra: on yeah. Constance Bowen: yeah Jacquelyn Horton: Adaptable. Rebecca Truett: Maybe, Constance Bowen: something Rebecca Truett: if if Jacquelyn Horton: Alright, Helen Guerra: Mm Rebecca Truett: it's Constance Bowen: yeah. Rebecca Truett: possible, Jacquelyn Horton: good, Rebecca Truett: yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: so Helen Guerra: huh. Jacquelyn Horton: how many actions do we need to implement in it? Helen Guerra: Maybe Jacquelyn Horton: On Helen Guerra: I think Jacquelyn Horton: off? Helen Guerra: even we can keep two switches and then Rebecca Truett: Yeah. Helen Guerra: we can uh only make one working. We can adapt only one switch, suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations. Jacquelyn Horton: I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a Helen Guerra: Two. Rebecca Truett: Three buttons you mean? Jacquelyn Horton: like three Constance Bowen: Three Jacquelyn Horton: mental Constance Bowen: option. Jacquelyn Horton: states, Rebecca Truett: Ah. Jacquelyn Horton: yeah you know what I mean, we can just make it uh Helen Guerra: Yeah. Yeah. Constance Bowen: Um. Jacquelyn Horton: controlled by a brain, huh? Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: Mm-hmm, yeah, Constance Bowen: Maybe Rebecca Truett: sure. Constance Bowen: if it's more, if there is a software inside that ask you three Jacquelyn Horton: Mm-hmm. Constance Bowen: Hmm. If it if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button, three mm possibilities, Jacquelyn Horton: Sh Rebecca Truett: Yeah, more than Jacquelyn Horton: sure, Rebecca Truett: three Constance Bowen: ye Rebecca Truett: actions Jacquelyn Horton: sure. Helen Guerra: Mm Rebecca Truett: that Helen Guerra: yeah. Rebecca Truett: you may Constance Bowen: yeah. Rebecca Truett: want to do at a given time. Helen Guerra: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: But for standard actions you usually what do you do, you change channels, you adjust volume, and nothing else. Rebecca Truett: Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have you can just go to the next one or go to Helen Guerra: Mm. Rebecca Truett: channel twenty five. Helen Guerra: Yeah. Constance Bowen: Mm. Rebecca Truett: And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty Jacquelyn Horton: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: five. Jacquelyn Horton: You do this? Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: Uh no. Jacquelyn Horton: I usually just change channels. Rebecca Truett: Because I'm only using three or four channels but Helen Guerra: Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put Constance Bowen: Yeah. Helen Guerra: yeah, Constance Bowen: I Helen Guerra: you can only Constance Bowen: change Helen Guerra: have one Constance Bowen: channel Helen Guerra: bit. Constance Bowen: like this, m Helen Guerra: Dash. Constance Bowen: uh I want to go to twenty five, and then to Rebecca Truett: And Constance Bowen: ten, Rebecca Truett: then back Constance Bowen: uh-huh Rebecca Truett: to the Constance Bowen: mm Rebecca Truett: one Constance Bowen: yeah. Rebecca Truett: I was before, Constance Bowen: Also Rebecca Truett: so there's Constance Bowen: we can be Jacquelyn Horton: Uh-huh. Rebecca Truett: whichever Helen Guerra: Yeah Constance Bowen: here Helen Guerra: you Rebecca Truett: it Helen Guerra: can Rebecca Truett: was. Helen Guerra: yeah. Constance Bowen: yeah, that would Jacquelyn Horton: Go Constance Bowen: be Jacquelyn Horton: back Constance Bowen: cool. Helen Guerra: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: button Rebecca Truett: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: is Rebecca Truett: Uh Jacquelyn Horton: good. Rebecca Truett: uh we had that Jacquelyn Horton: I once Rebecca Truett: in Jacquelyn Horton: had Helen Guerra: Yeah Rebecca Truett: in Helen Guerra: yeah, the Jacquelyn Horton: it. Helen Guerra: previous Rebecca Truett: other countries. Helen Guerra: button is. Constance Bowen: Mm Rebecca Truett: Yeah Constance Bowen: yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: e even the history Helen Guerra: Uh, okay. Rebecca Truett: so you could like uh undo Jacquelyn Horton: History. Helen Guerra: Oh uh. Rebecca Truett: previous of the previous. Then you can watch Helen Guerra: Uh. Rebecca Truett: what your ah you could also record your Helen Guerra: Yeah. Rebecca Truett: record your sequence of actions, that becomes more complex, but you could look at what uh the other people have used Helen Guerra: Yeah yeah, Rebecca Truett: there Helen Guerra: what the Rebecca Truett: or Constance Bowen: Mm-mm. Helen Guerra: which channels Rebecca Truett: remote controls. Helen Guerra: the viewer Rebecca Truett: Yeah maybe Constance Bowen: Okay. Rebecca Truett: it's a Constance Bowen: So I think we have full Rebecca Truett: Okay. Constance Bowen: of idea. Um we're going to meet again in thirty minutes and uh I want you to mm work on these ideas and try to make a uh the ones, make um to decide what what are the ones important and what are the one that we don't want. And um m maybe more in the technical parts what uh do we want to do. Um. So um your personal coach will send you some instruction for for this thirty minutes. Rebecca Truett: So what does M_E_ means? M_E_ the user requirements? Or that's uh that's for us? Jacquelyn Horton: Market Expert. Helen Guerra: Marketing Constance Bowen: Mm. Rebecca Truett: Uh that's Rebecca Truett. Helen Guerra: yeah. Rebecca Truett: Oh, of course yeah, the user requirement specifications, uh-huh, Constance Bowen: Mm-hmm. Rebecca Truett: yeah. Okay. Constance Bowen: Mm Rebecca Truett: I'll Constance Bowen: okay. Rebecca Truett: think of that. Constance Bowen: So. Rebecca Truett: So? Constance Bowen: I think that's all. Rebecca Truett: Meeting's over? Great. Constance Bowen: Yeah. Jacquelyn Horton: Okay. Helen Guerra: Thank you. Rebecca Truett: Thank you. Jacquelyn Horton: Thank Constance Bowen: See Jacquelyn Horton: you everybody. Constance Bowen: you in thirty minutes.	Constance Bowen opened the meeting and introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which each team member drew his favorite animal and discussed why he liked the particular animal. After the drawing exercise, Constance Bowen discussed selling prices and production costs for the remote the team will design. Constance Bowen also indicated that the remote will be sold internationally and that two million remotes are expected to be sold. The team then discussed their experiences using remotes in the past and what features to consider implementing in the remote they will produce. The team members discussed child proof capabilities, color options, how to adapt a remote for left-handed users, a "go back" function, the size of a remote, buttons, and LCD screens. Constance Bowen closed the meeting and gave the team members their assignments and then one of the team members briefly went over his role on the team.	4	amisum	train
Sandra Stallcup: So Alexandra Stafford: So Sandra Stallcup: I hope you're ready for this uh functional design meeting. Alexandra Stafford: Of course. Sandra Stallcup: Um so I will take the minutes you mm you three are going to do presentation. Um uh we want to know to at the end to know the new project's requirement so we need uh to know the the user uh needs that we want to fulfil to fulfil the from the technical part we want to know how it going to work and um third part uh I don't remember which is not very good. Ah of course how, to to design this uh this Alexandra Stafford: Nice stuff Sandra Stallcup: yeah. So um let's go for the three presentations, so first Alexandra Stafford: Who starts? Sandra Stallcup: um Marketing Alexandra Stafford: Oh. Ha. Sandra Stallcup: Expert. Alexandra Stafford: okay. Sandra Stallcup: So wait a minute. Alexandra Stafford: So Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Alexandra Stafford: I dunno if I can do that like this? Yeah? So it's being modified. Do you want yeah, open. Read only. I hope I saved it. So, Carolyn Vaughan: Sammy Alexandra Stafford: um Carolyn Vaughan: Benjo. Alexandra Stafford: yeah, Carolyn Vaughan: I know this Alexandra Stafford: this Carolyn Vaughan: name Alexandra Stafford: is Carolyn Vaughan: uh Alexandra Stafford: my name. Sandra Stallcup: Sounds uh Carolyn Vaughan: We. met Alexandra Stafford: So Carolyn Vaughan: before. Alexandra Stafford: as you know, you I think you already know Alexandra Stafford, Sammy Benjo. I am the expert in marketing I want to tell you uh s want and uh like and dislike in remote controls, and I hope this is going to help you to to design it correctly. So next please. Uh-oh. Sandra Stallcup: Mm Melissa Lopez: Yeah, it Sandra Stallcup: uh. Melissa Lopez: is put F_ five. Sandra Stallcup: Hmm. Alexandra Stafford: Hmm. Melissa Lopez: The full page presentation, Alexandra Stafford: Yeah maybe Melissa Lopez: yep. Alexandra Stafford: in the full page because Carolyn Vaughan: F_ Alexandra Stafford: i Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: F_ five. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: I spent Melissa Lopez: Yep. Alexandra Stafford: lots of time doing this presentation, Sandra Stallcup: F_ five. Alexandra Stafford: so. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: Uh-huh hmm okay. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Mm. Alexandra Stafford: So basically uh what I suggest is that uh instead of deciding ourself what what could be and what should be a good uh remote control, let's ask people who are users of remote controls how they feel about w the current remote controls, what they like, what they don't like and um and what they do with them by the way because they are supposed to be useful. Don't forget about that. So we've we've conducted a a survey on on the use of uh remote controls and I'd like to show you some of the results we found on this survey. And next please. Yeah, so basically what we found was that uh there are several things that the user don't like in remote controls. First of all, they find it very ugly. Current remote controls as you know they're the same as this one uh they're not nice colour, not nice shape, I mean they're all the same, and they're not l good looking. Um what is interesting is that in fact it seems that they were people are ready to pay for nice and look and fancy looking uh remote control, so I think we should probably spend lots of time in and effort in that um. And the other thing is that uh the the current remote controls are not so easy to use and it it the the current uh facilities that they offer do not match what people really want to use their remote controls. For instance uh we see that uh they zap very often so I think this is a very uh important uh functionality that it should be easy for them to to zap uh in one way or another. And most of the buttons uh on uh current remote controls are not used, so I think we should design something where some of the buttons which are those that are used should be easier to see and use than others that only a couple of people are using. Um next please. Now people are very frustrated w with their remote controls and they for instance uh they don't even find it it's it's often lost somewhere in the in the in your home and nobody knows where it Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: is. Maybe Carolyn Vaughan: Agree. Alexandra Stafford: if we have something where we Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: could ask the remote control please, where are you? Like Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: uh something to to like t I think phones. Some of the phones have some of this kind of s functionality. Uh of course phone you can always phone your phone but you can't phone Melissa Lopez: You can Alexandra Stafford: your your Melissa Lopez: you Alexandra Stafford: remote Sandra Stallcup: Why Alexandra Stafford: control. Sandra Stallcup: not? Melissa Lopez: are. Alexandra Stafford: But why not? Yeah. And because of the fact that there are so many buttons in these remote controls that nobody use, in fact Melissa Lopez: Hmm. Alexandra Stafford: they don't even know how to use them, so most of the the people say they they don't know how to they to use properly their r remote controls. And uh they are bad for R_S_I_ but uh I don't remember what is R_S_I_. So I think they are bad. Sandra Stallcup: Okay uh tha that's look Carolyn Vaughan: R_S_I_ Sandra Stallcup: great. Carolyn Vaughan: mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Mm nobody has any idea about that? Well I'll Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Alexandra Stafford: check uh Melissa Lopez: it's Alexandra Stafford: with my Melissa Lopez: electromagnetic waves or something Alexandra Stafford: Oh, Melissa Lopez: kind of maybe Carolyn Vaughan: No, Alexandra Stafford: okay, Melissa Lopez: uh effect. Alexandra Stafford: I think Carolyn Vaughan: I Alexandra Stafford: it's Carolyn Vaughan: don't Alexandra Stafford: a technical Carolyn Vaughan: think so. Alexandra Stafford: thing which Melissa Lopez: Yeah, because infrared Alexandra Stafford: our Melissa Lopez: uses some Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: electromagnetic Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: technology, Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Melissa Lopez: and those Alexandra Stafford: So, Melissa Lopez: waves Alexandra Stafford: it Melissa Lopez: have high Alexandra Stafford: seems Carolyn Vaughan: But twenty Alexandra Stafford: that Carolyn Vaughan: six percent, do you know Alexandra Stafford: it's a Melissa Lopez: Uh. Alexandra Stafford: lot of people for a Carolyn Vaughan: Twenty Alexandra Stafford: concept Sandra Stallcup: Or something Alexandra Stafford: that we Sandra Stallcup: we Alexandra Stafford: don't Sandra Stallcup: don't Alexandra Stafford: know Sandra Stallcup: know. Carolyn Vaughan: five. Alexandra Stafford: but Melissa Lopez: Uh. Alexandra Stafford: we have to take this into account. Carolyn Vaughan: Every fourth, you Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: know. Melissa Lopez: Yeah it's Carolyn Vaughan: Every four Melissa Lopez: People really Carolyn Vaughan: some of us knows. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: So anyway Carolyn Vaughan: One Alexandra Stafford: that's Carolyn Vaughan: of Alexandra Stafford: for Carolyn Vaughan: us Alexandra Stafford: what the biggest frustration uh of the user and um Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: what else do I have? Next slide? Ah yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: So we've listed a couple of uh Carolyn Vaughan: Functions. Alexandra Stafford: s uh functions that may be uh used by u the user in the current uh available uh remote controls and uh well the tables look very nice to read but what is important is to understand that the power button is not used often because in general you use it only once per session, but it is very relevant. People want to have a power button. Channel selection is uh o often used very often used and indeed uh very relevant. Alexandra Stafford: Ah now I remember what is R_S_I_ it's repetitivity stress injury. We have to be careful with that word but Melissa Lopez: Uh. Alexandra Stafford: uh anyway I continue my presentation so yeah, channel selection is um very important, very often used. Volume is not often used but people uh want to have control on volume and that makes sense of course. Alexandra Stafford: All of them. they're not often used and they are s more or less relevant. It seems that people find teletext teletext uh relevant, even if I personally never use it but seems that it's average relevant at least, so. Sandra Stallcup: I have been told that we uh don't consider teletext, that it's out of date now because of internet. Alexandra Stafford: I can tell you that uh in a l in a scale between one and ten relevant uh not relevant to relevant people scored a six on this, which is not as uh these these two one were had I think ten I think. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: But but if you compare with these ones, uh I think they scored a one or two. Not very Melissa Lopez: Hmm. Alexandra Stafford: relevant, so if if there are good reason not to put teletext it's okay but just know that people find it somehow relevant. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: That's for the main functions I think and uh then we can ask uh ourself uh what people don't have that may be useful. For instance I think net next slide. One of the thing the trend uh that uh you are probably aware of is the possibility the eventual possibility of having speech recognition in your remote control, so you wouldn't have to tap tap in your buttons but just tell your remote control or whatever you need you have what you want. So we've conducted a survey about uh whether people would like or not to have uh this kind of uh functionality in their remote control and as we can see it really depends on the age. Young people, probably because it's a buzz word, find it very relevant. And uh as the age goes up the the relevance goes down. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: So now it really depends on the kind of uh targeting uh wha who are we targeting with this remote control? I think if we Melissa Lopez: 'Cause Alexandra Stafford: are targeting young people then uh it's probably something we have to consider. If we are targeting you very old people this is something they really don't know why they this should be so Sandra Stallcup: Mm-mm. Alexandra Stafford: now this Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: is of course, depends on that. And um I don't have any conclusion, I didn't have time the meeting was very tight, so that's basically my findings. And uh, if you have any question? Sandra Stallcup: Mm I think it's good, okay. You done a good Carolyn Vaughan: I Alexandra Stafford: I can Carolyn Vaughan: got Sandra Stallcup: review. Alexandra Stafford: go back. Carolyn Vaughan: one question, Melissa Lopez: you. Alexandra Stafford: Yeah one question, yeah? Carolyn Vaughan: uh you are a Market Expert so Alexandra Stafford: I am. Carolyn Vaughan: should we aim at the young people or not? Alexandra Stafford: I think we should aim at the young people. But uh I think they are they are those uh who might be more interested in a in a new device. Melissa Lopez: Mm. Alexandra Stafford: In general the the early adopters of a new device are young people, less than Carolyn Vaughan: Okay, Alexandra Stafford: more Melissa Lopez: Mm. Alexandra Stafford: than Carolyn Vaughan: then teletext is used less. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: Then teletext is useless for them I think, Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: yeah. Because they they have other means of finding Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: their Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm Alexandra Stafford: information. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Sandra Stallcup: mm Alexandra Stafford: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: mm. Okay. Alexandra Stafford: But Sandra Stallcup: That's good Alexandra Stafford: yeah. Melissa Lopez: Mm, Sandra Stallcup: point. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm. Melissa Lopez: yep. Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: Nope. 'Kay? Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: Thank you. Sandra Stallcup: So um now I think it's the turn of the the I'm not sure um Sandra Stallcup: Of the technical function, so Alexandra Stafford: So Sandra Stallcup: uh Alexandra Stafford: I think it's you, Melissa Lopez: Uh it's Alexandra Stafford: huh? No? Carolyn Vaughan: That's Melissa Lopez: techni Carolyn Vaughan: Alexandra Stafford. Melissa Lopez: function Sandra Stallcup: what effect Alexandra Stafford: No, Melissa Lopez: of Alexandra Stafford: user requiremen Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Wait a Melissa Lopez: I Sandra Stallcup: second. Melissa Lopez: have to do Sandra Stallcup: Argh. Melissa Lopez: working design so uh. Sandra Stallcup: So Carolyn Vaughan: That's Sandra Stallcup: you're Carolyn Vaughan: but this but number three, yes. Mm-hmm. So, my name is Mark Dwight, and um I am responsible for User Interface Design. However, uh mm Project Manager asked Alexandra Stafford to give you some presentation about technical functions design. Uh, as I'm a more an artist that's gonna be less technical functions but more User Interface and current intentions and everything which is linked with this. So next Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: slide please. Sandra Stallcup: Let's go. Carolyn Vaughan: And uh a general method which is seems Melissa Lopez: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: to be very useful for our task is not to forget about uh Occam razor. We should never complicate things too much. We should only make a remote control, nothing more. Nothing more than this, just a remote control. 'Cause current remote Alexandra Stafford: Makes sense. Carolyn Vaughan: controls they are never easy enough to use. So, make a click, please. So here is this remote control. It's quite a standard one, but it's not from a T_V_, it's from a much easier device like air conditioning or something. But you know, we can use it for a T_V_ easily. Only buttons we need is on off, volume, channels and maybe some options or something else, and please make a click, compared to this one which Melissa Lopez: It's Carolyn Vaughan: one would you prefer? I guess Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Carolyn Vaughan: this. Alexandra Stafford: I would say Melissa Lopez: yeah. Alexandra Stafford: the simplest one as long as there are the uh I find the buttons that I need every time I need a button. Carolyn Vaughan: Sure, Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: sure. Melissa Lopez: Maybe it can be yeah middle of like, Carolyn Vaughan: Yeah, Melissa Lopez: between those two li Carolyn Vaughan: and our method is going to be, provide simple Sandra Stallcup: Oh sorry. Carolyn Vaughan: simple desires into simple actions. Alexandra Stafford: Nice. Nice sentence. Carolyn Vaughan: Findings. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Oh sorry. Carolyn Vaughan: Our question of the style, we should remember that our company puts fashion into electronics and we should never forget about it. Concept. Melissa Lopez: S you Carolyn Vaughan: Be Melissa Lopez: should Carolyn Vaughan: simple. Melissa Lopez: yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: Be simple and you'll lean on this market. Market is a of remote controls you know it better, Alexandra Stafford: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: it's very well, it's it's not an easy field to to play, you know? So be simple. For personal preferences I think that to make a baby-proof remote control it got to be a titanium. It's a really good style, it going to be look like like this. It is unbreakable and it is very universal. W we'll have a screen with a back light which can change colours, Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: and we can put all the options into this screen. We'll need only few buttons. All the other things can be controlled through the screen. And all these buttons should be easy to find and to click, 'cause when you watch a movie and you want to change something, you always try to find a good button and click it, but you should do it by touching it and finding it easily just by touch. So Press I would propose this concept for design, just few buttons, Melissa Lopez: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: a screen with a back light which can change colours, titanium I think, and uh what else? I got just very few and good ideas. We need power and volume. And let us include two nice features into this device, first, power on and off can be made fully automatic. When you go to the sofa, take your control and point it to the T_V_, Sandra Stallcup: It's Alexandra Stafford: Hmm. Sandra Stallcup: off. It's on. Carolyn Vaughan: the T_V_ turns on. Alexandra Stafford: And when does it turn off? Carolyn Vaughan: When you don't touch the control but you go out of the Alexandra Stafford: Oh Carolyn Vaughan: For Alexandra Stafford: so you have a Carolyn Vaughan: for enough time like uh you Alexandra Stafford: sensing sensor machine that uh Carolyn Vaughan: It's Alexandra Stafford: knows Carolyn Vaughan: a question to our technical Alexandra Stafford: Tech Carolyn Vaughan: design, our two engineers. And another nice feature that I would like to implement is uh volume control. Suppose you set u you set up some volume and then you move out or you move to the other corner of the room and take your control with you. Like, you want to to change the chair or you want to move to the armchair from the sofa or Sandra Stallcup: Or you want to go to Carolyn Vaughan: something, Sandra Stallcup: the kitchen. Carolyn Vaughan: and then the volume changes. Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: It's easy to do, you just control the Alexandra Stafford: According to your distance Melissa Lopez: Distance. Alexandra Stafford: to Carolyn Vaughan: According to the distance. Alexandra Stafford: and the angle maybe, if you have a Carolyn Vaughan: Yeah Alexandra Stafford: stereo system. Carolyn Vaughan: yeah yeah. Alexandra Stafford: Uh I'm Carolyn Vaughan: So Alexandra Stafford: not sure about the screen, wha what is the use usefulness of the screen? Uh is it a touch screen by the way? Carolyn Vaughan: I think it can be just a menu which can be controlled with a left, right, up, down and enter. Alexandra Stafford: So it gives Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: instructions but uh it has to be with an back light somehow. Carolyn Vaughan: So, its main purpose in fact is a back light, Melissa Lopez: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: which change colours, which makes it easier to find, and each can it can respond for your voice, like it can turn on the light for you just to f find it easily, yeah? Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: So basically that's it. Sandra Stallcup: Um I see that you target uh several s application not only T_V_ but i like we talk about um universal uh remote control. Carolyn Vaughan: Can be easily done, Sandra Stallcup: Yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: 'cause you got simple designs, y we should put it to simple actions. Sandra Stallcup: Hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: Let it be universal, so you want to use it for your hi-fi system. You want to change tracks and you want to adjust volume. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: Just Melissa Lopez: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: few actions, a few actions for everything. Sandra Stallcup: Hmm. S Carolyn Vaughan: All the rest, we sh we'll put it into this menu on the screen. Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Since we were targeting a really soon uh uh date for the the the um i issuing of this uh remote control I think we will only concentrate on T_V_ for the moment Melissa Lopez: Mm. Sandra Stallcup: and Carolyn Vaughan: Okay, okay. Melissa Lopez: Yeah Sandra Stallcup: then Melissa Lopez: and it Sandra Stallcup: maybe Melissa Lopez: mm. Sandra Stallcup: m Carolyn Vaughan: Okay, Sandra Stallcup: make Carolyn Vaughan: but it's quite Sandra Stallcup: it Carolyn Vaughan: universal Sandra Stallcup: more generalised Melissa Lopez: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: you know. Sandra Stallcup: yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: We can just extend it to any Melissa Lopez: Mm. Carolyn Vaughan: device. Alexandra Stafford: So for instance if I want to go to directly to channel twenty five, how would I do can I do that with this? Yeah mm let's say I am uh on channel eight now. You know these days we have hundreds of channels, that's not so Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: easy to go just next next next when you have hundreds of channels. Carolyn Vaughan: In fact Alexandra Stafford: Or is Carolyn Vaughan: I would Alexandra Stafford: it? Carolyn Vaughan: propose another solution. Basically you use just four or five channels, Alexandra Stafford: Most Carolyn Vaughan: right? Alexandra Stafford: people yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: Yeah. So uh set up your T_V_ set like channels that you use they're one, two, three and five, and you will never have to go to a twenty fives channel. Alexandra Stafford: In fact in in one uh remote control that I've seen, instead of doing that d you could just say these are the cha ch channel three, twenty eight, forty eight and uh sixty four are those that I want to by cycled with my next button. Sandra Stallcup: Yeah it's Alexandra Stafford: I uh Sandra Stallcup: it's the same Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: solution, I think. Alexandra Stafford: B yeah. Sandra Stallcup: Hmm. Melissa Lopez: But even we can have some uh L_C_D_ display, like you can uh Alexandra Stafford: Go Melissa Lopez: de Alexandra Stafford: to Melissa Lopez: you Alexandra Stafford: channel Melissa Lopez: can just Alexandra Stafford: twenty five. Melissa Lopez: button the number and Alexandra Stafford: One Melissa Lopez: then Alexandra Stafford: thing Melissa Lopez: it Alexandra Stafford: is Melissa Lopez: go Alexandra Stafford: that Melissa Lopez: t Alexandra Stafford: as I said Melissa Lopez: because Alexandra Stafford: in my presentation people really do like to z zap. So Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: even if they are only watching four or five channels, Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: I think Melissa Lopez: But Alexandra Stafford: they Melissa Lopez: still Alexandra Stafford: want to zap out of the one hundred channels, Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: just because this is one kind of thing they do, Sandra Stallcup: Yeah Alexandra Stafford: zapping. Sandra Stallcup: uh on zap Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: it's only next next Alexandra Stafford: And it's Sandra Stallcup: next Alexandra Stafford: only Sandra Stallcup: next Alexandra Stafford: next. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: next, Alexandra Stafford: Yeah Sandra Stallcup: yeah. Alexandra Stafford: so but Carolyn Vaughan: Mm. Alexandra Stafford: you have to Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: We got these buttons here. Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: Next next. Melissa Lopez: Yeah.. Carolyn Vaughan: Or say this can be back. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. But otherwise like we can put some display on numbers and then they can just press Alexandra Stafford: So Melissa Lopez: suppose Alexandra Stafford: it would be Melissa Lopez: two five they just press two and five and then Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: Maybe we can make uh different modes for each button and you Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: can change mode zapping Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Sandra Stallcup: mode Melissa Lopez: yeah. Sandra Stallcup: or Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Alright. Sandra Stallcup: uh current Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Sandra Stallcup: chan Melissa Lopez: yeah. Yeah Alexandra Stafford: Listening Melissa Lopez: but since we are focusing Alexandra Stafford: more. Melissa Lopez: only on T_V_ remote controls Sandra Stallcup: Yeah. Melissa Lopez: so Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: we can have more functions for T_V_ uh if you want to go for a universal then we ought to limit for functions for each of our devices. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: Could we carry out some research if we w really need this, like how many people really need to go to channel number twenty five and then to sixty four? Alexandra Stafford: Well I could could uh have a look at that Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: maybe. Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: I'll check in my department if there's someone specialist in that. Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: Although I don't know. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: Alright? Thanks for your attention. Sandra Stallcup: Uh you're finish? Okay. So now the technical aspects of this new device. Mm. Melissa Lopez: Two. Yeah, if Sorry. Sandra Stallcup: You prefer it. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Uh as you know, I am mister Ramaro. I am an expert in uh industrial design of all electronic devices and I previously devised many uh like digital calculators and electronic calculators. So now I'll briefly describe the working design of our remote control. Well, as you know the basic function of remote control is sending some message to the the device, like T_V_ or V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player etcetera. So we will have a p portable device which will send message to the the main device like T_V_. So we need to have some energy source to do what to do the functions, what we want on this portable device. And usually this so to do these functions we need an interface, which basically some kind of pressing buttons or keys or like moving jack or something like that. And then these messages these key buttons can be transferred into some kind of message and then it will process by the chip and then it will generate some information to the main device. It's generally in the form of infrared or some kind of s sensor information. Then we will have the main control in the main device to do the particular action what we want. So, basically we need uh since we are focusing on our interface device remote control we need few components, mainly the energy source like the battery and then we have user interface like uh the keypad and you know buttons we want, and then we have some chip, it's mainly digital signal processing chip because since we are I am one doing mostly digital uh devices we ought to have some kind of processor which take care of all these functions and put it in some digital format. And then we'll have the infrared L_E_D_ source which sends the information to the main device. Then we'll have switch in our main uh um device to do particular operations, and we ought to do different codes for different T_V_s, so Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: some T_V_s will have different encryption codes for doing s s uh channel changing Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: and these things. Sandra Stallcup: To make it quite uh an universal uh device Melissa Lopez: Yeah yeah, Sandra Stallcup: uh. Melissa Lopez: because the people don't use one particular brand so Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Melissa Lopez: or at least we have more more than five brands, which Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: are really good. So we need to check their specifications and do their uh encryption that's passing information to the T_V_ device. So we need to have particular encryption codes. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: Then, components, so we have the main uh energy source and then we will have some buttons and then we will have infrared uh source and then we have some inside some chip in in the device. Uh since I don't have much time so I'll input the connections to all this components. And since I also want to know feedback from our Marketing Expert and User Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: Interface, so if you want to add some more components we Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: can Sandra Stallcup: And Melissa Lopez: incorporate Sandra Stallcup: from from Melissa Lopez: them. Sandra Stallcup: the discussion we had do you Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: can you make it on the whiteboard, or Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Sandra Stallcup: mm. Melissa Lopez: I'm sure, because since our User Interface speech recognition and also Marketing Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: Expert for the speech recognition is really handy, Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: so we can have another, like uh s simple speech recogniser on our D_S_B_ Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Melissa Lopez: chip. Since we have some kind of uh energy this is our this normal battery, so this battery, once you s switch on it will take power and we can have some speech recognition and in our g generally small digital signal processing chip so that and we will put uh the small uh simple speech recogniser and Sandra Stallcup: On Melissa Lopez: we can also train the speech recogniser for particular user so you just Sandra Stallcup: Uh train it, okay. Melissa Lopez: yeah, Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: so that we just use simple Carolyn Vaughan: Too complex. Melissa Lopez: recog no Alexandra Stafford: But Melissa Lopez: but Alexandra Stafford: uh very Melissa Lopez: but Alexandra Stafford: very good to sell. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. No, even in even simple mobile device like any mobile brand you can have these voice dialers or Alexandra Stafford: Think Melissa Lopez: these Alexandra Stafford: of Melissa Lopez: things, Alexandra Stafford: a all Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: these young Melissa Lopez: yeah. Alexandra Stafford: people who would love to say that this remote control only works for them, Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: and ha ha you cannot use my remote control, because Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Alexandra Stafford: it's targeted Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: to Alexandra Stafford. Whatever. Sandra Stallcup: And what Melissa Lopez: So Sandra Stallcup: about the price of this component? Melissa Lopez: Uh maybe we can make uh Sandra Stallcup: It Melissa Lopez: it Sandra Stallcup: mm Melissa Lopez: in five Euros and Sandra Stallcup: okay. Melissa Lopez: even Alexandra Stafford: Hmm. Melissa Lopez: less Alexandra Stafford: Cheap. Melissa Lopez: than that, because we want to have Alexandra Stafford: Millions. Melissa Lopez: uh millions and Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Melissa Lopez: in bulk, so we can make really simp Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: and Alexandra Stafford: Cheap. Melissa Lopez: we want to make really simple device because we have only very few words like like power, switch on Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: or some like then we'll have something like this um we'll have volume and then we will have s particular channel, so users can Alexandra Stafford: The Melissa Lopez: listen. Alexandra Stafford: user uh Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Alexandra Stafford: will just be able to say uh please can you uh pump up the vo pump up the volume or or it Melissa Lopez: Ye Alexandra Stafford: will be something like volume, Melissa Lopez: No, yeah, Alexandra Stafford: up, Melissa Lopez: a Alexandra Stafford: down. Melissa Lopez: user can use any kind of sender but they should have this prompt volume and Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Melissa Lopez: then Sandra Stallcup: With a keywords and Melissa Lopez: yeah Sandra Stallcup: yeah. Melissa Lopez: volume and decrease or increase, so Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Melissa Lopez: we try to only recognise those Alexandra Stafford: Couple Melissa Lopez: words Alexandra Stafford: of words. Melissa Lopez: and Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm mm. Melissa Lopez: and because we can't really say user to say same wording then it become Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: more mechanical and Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Melissa Lopez: yeah. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: Um. Melissa Lopez: And then we can have channel they can say, okay I want eight, because we don't know like users have different programmes, I mean they don't really follow same channels strict uh so we just want channel number, we don't want like B_B_C_ or C_N_N_ or something Alexandra Stafford: Of course Melissa Lopez: else Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: uh Melissa Lopez: because Alexandra Stafford: it has to Melissa Lopez: it Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Melissa Lopez: will Alexandra Stafford: be Melissa Lopez: be complicated so we'll have only these three uh main basic uh Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Melissa Lopez: anyway volume is not really speech recognition problem, it's it it will be take care of our main Carolyn Vaughan: No you know it's a conceptual Melissa Lopez: mm. Carolyn Vaughan: question, 'cause now I see th this the picture in front of my eyes like a user taking his remote control and shouting into it, volume up, volume Alexandra Stafford: But Carolyn Vaughan: up, Alexandra Stafford: then I Carolyn Vaughan: and Alexandra Stafford: think you Carolyn Vaughan: and he's coming you know, he's really annoyed with this, Alexandra Stafford: you Carolyn Vaughan: down, up, down. Alexandra Stafford: First of all I I think this is not uh functionality that it is going to be instead of using Sandra Stallcup: No, Alexandra Stafford: the buttons. Sandra Stallcup: in no not Alexandra Stafford: It's Sandra Stallcup: only Alexandra Stafford: on Sandra Stallcup: speech, Alexandra Stafford: top Sandra Stallcup: yeah. Alexandra Stafford: of using the button. Carolyn Vaughan: Okay, for Sandra Stallcup: I Carolyn Vaughan: this Sandra Stallcup: it's Carolyn Vaughan: budget Sandra Stallcup: an option. Carolyn Vaughan: like twelve Euros. Alexandra Stafford: Well, I dunno. Melissa Lopez: Yeah actually we we can have one switch to like uh switch on, on and off, this processor and This really, suppose like here we have our main chip which controls power, volume and this part and this D_S_P_s. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: Again, this to have some interaction like suppose people use D_S_P_ then it particularly sends some information to the chip like in some form, like volume and like this key. So Carolyn Vaughan: Okay.. Melissa Lopez: it may not be like very expensive, because since we are only focusing on Alexandra Stafford: T_V_. Melissa Lopez: T_V_ remote control so Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm-hmm, Melissa Lopez: and we have Carolyn Vaughan: mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: only few Sandra Stallcup: Sho Melissa Lopez: things here Sandra Stallcup: to to train, okay. Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: Did you consider the r gest uh gesture recognition? Like, if I want to put volume up I like do mm I take my remote control do like something like Melissa Lopez: Um Carolyn Vaughan: roll 'em up Melissa Lopez: uh Carolyn Vaughan: or roll 'em down. Sandra Stallcup: Mm. Melissa Lopez: uh this point we didn't consider because it's Alexandra Stafford: Very expensive, Melissa Lopez: it's Alexandra Stafford: no? Melissa Lopez: very expensive because v our target is only like Sandra Stallcup: And Melissa Lopez: twelve Sandra Stallcup: well, Melissa Lopez: point five Euros Sandra Stallcup: what Carolyn Vaughan: Mm Sandra Stallcup: about Melissa Lopez: and Carolyn Vaughan: why? Sandra Stallcup: the idea of Carolyn Vaughan: That's Sandra Stallcup: automatic Carolyn Vaughan: just Sandra Stallcup: on off on Alexandra Stafford: And Sandra Stallcup: the Alexandra Stafford: volume Melissa Lopez: Yeah, Alexandra Stafford: control. Melissa Lopez: even automatic Sandra Stallcup: button, yeah. Melissa Lopez: on off is also a bit problematic, because it different criteria for different people like so suppose people are really uh they just uh they don't touch the remote and mm y Alexandra Stafford: So but Melissa Lopez: you don't Alexandra Stafford: uh Melissa Lopez: know how much time you need to switch on or switch off and Alexandra Stafford: Sh should we target a a user personalised uh uh remote control? So in in a given room there might be more than one remote control. We would uh have each one Melissa Lopez: Yay yeah. Alexandra Stafford: and uh with our own personal uh settings. Melissa Lopez: Yeah that can be possible, especially for power settings, so user can say okay, suppose they're watching a tennis match or something then they can say okay Alexandra Stafford: Hmm. Melissa Lopez: uh after one hour I Sandra Stallcup: Wouldn't that make Melissa Lopez: They can Sandra Stallcup: uh Melissa Lopez: make Sandra Stallcup: arguments? Alexandra Stafford: Yeah, of Sandra Stallcup: I Alexandra Stafford: course. Sandra Stallcup: want uh Alexandra Stafford: That's no problem, we will sell more. Melissa Lopez: Yeah we can have Sandra Stallcup: And we Carolyn Vaughan: We Sandra Stallcup: can Carolyn Vaughan: got Sandra Stallcup: increase this Carolyn Vaughan: a Sandra Stallcup: the strength Alexandra Stafford: Yeah exactly. Sandra Stallcup: y you can Carolyn Vaughan: really Sandra Stallcup: buy Carolyn Vaughan: good Market Sandra Stallcup: one Carolyn Vaughan: Expert. Sandra Stallcup: with Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: Let's send more, let's sell more. Okay. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Okay. You have mm something else to say? Melissa Lopez: Uh, Sandra Stallcup: Uh. Melissa Lopez: not very much, like Sandra Stallcup: No. Melissa Lopez: yeah. Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Thanks. Sandra Stallcup: Okay, Melissa Lopez: Thank you. Sandra Stallcup: thanks. Melissa Lopez: Yep. Thank you. Sandra Stallcup: So Melissa Lopez: Can you just yeah. Sandra Stallcup: mm mm I think, okay, we're just on time. Um mm mm. So, we're now going to l have the lunch break. Alexandra Stafford: Mm great. Sandra Stallcup: Then we will work again for thirty minutes individual work, and um we will uh meet again for the next meeting, and uh in this one want to to be more focused on the individual actions the um on the components so uh you will focus on the component Melissa Lopez: Yeah Sandra Stallcup: concept Melissa Lopez: yeah. Sandra Stallcup: um uh of course the Melissa Lopez: Mark Sandra Stallcup: U_I_D_ Melissa Lopez: will Sandra Stallcup: Mark will be uh focused on the user interface concept and uh our m Market Expert Sammy Benjo uh on the trend watching. So um of course like before specific instruction will be sent to you by your personal personal coach. Well I think that's all. And we have um maybe we have to we say, only for T_V_, not teletext? Uh I think automatic on off control uh it's not possible. Melissa Lopez: Uh it's Alexandra Stafford: Difficult. Melissa Lopez: in current price, Sandra Stallcup: Yeah, Melissa Lopez: yeah. Sandra Stallcup: maybe in the next Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: uh step if we make it work um. Melissa Lopez: But speech recogniser can be Sandra Stallcup: Yeah, Melissa Lopez: possible. Sandra Stallcup: implemented. O okay, we Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Sandra Stallcup: can think about that. And um do you see something else? Alexandra Stafford: No. Carolyn Vaughan: Uh, should it be equipped with the uh, with uh speakers? Alexandra Stafford: Speakers Carolyn Vaughan: Like, Alexandra Stafford: in the remote Carolyn Vaughan: you want Alexandra Stafford: cont Carolyn Vaughan: to find it, you shout Alexandra Stafford: Oh yeah. Carolyn Vaughan: control, Sandra Stallcup: Uh yeah that's Carolyn Vaughan: and it answers is I'm here? Or Alexandra Stafford: It just beeps. That would be enough. Carolyn Vaughan: Just beeps? Sandra Stallcup: Or maybe Alexandra Stafford: Something Sandra Stallcup: you Alexandra Stafford: very Sandra Stallcup: want Alexandra Stafford: cheap. Sandra Stallcup: to phone him. Alexandra Stafford: But that's Melissa Lopez: Yeah Sandra Stallcup: Since Melissa Lopez: yeah Alexandra Stafford: ex Sandra Stallcup: now Melissa Lopez: yeah. Sandra Stallcup: all Alexandra Stafford: that's expensive. Sandra Stallcup: yeah? Alexandra Stafford: Uh. Melissa Lopez: Yeah, especially Sandra Stallcup: Think Melissa Lopez: the power, it really consumes because Sandra Stallcup: Uh-huh. Melissa Lopez: it should be all the time on and Alexandra Stafford: Well I Sandra Stallcup: And uh Alexandra Stafford: I heard of devices where you just uh whistle them and Sandra Stallcup: And Alexandra Stafford: and they Sandra Stallcup: it's answered. Alexandra Stafford: because Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: of the the frequency they Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: they just Carolyn Vaughan: I can't whistle. Alexandra Stafford: answer to that. Carolyn Vaughan: No, Alexandra Stafford: You can't whistle. Carolyn Vaughan: no, Alexandra Stafford: Uh-huh. Carolyn Vaughan: I can't. Alexandra Stafford: Or a clap. Carolyn Vaughan: Mm. Sandra Stallcup: Clap Alexandra Stafford: You can clap. Sandra Stallcup: clap Alexandra Stafford: Can you? Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: clap it's a good Alexandra Stafford: Clap is good. Sandra Stallcup: I Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: I think Alexandra Stafford: Tak Sandra Stallcup: it's universal. Alexandra Stafford: Just a Sandra Stallcup: What about Alexandra Stafford: suggestion. Carolyn Vaughan: Okay. Sandra Stallcup: people without hand? Yeah. Alexandra Stafford: With only one hand? Melissa Lopez: Yeah I think it's good. Alexandra Stafford: These are not our target Sandra Stallcup: Mm Alexandra Stafford: people. Sandra Stallcup: uh okay. Melissa Lopez: But it's a good feature I guess yeah we need to Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Melissa Lopez: think about more Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Melissa Lopez: how to incorporate it. Carolyn Vaughan: Just don't interfere with other devices like 'cause Alexandra Stafford: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: like all these people do that their lights are turning on with clapping. Alexandra Stafford: Oh Melissa Lopez: Oh. Alexandra Stafford: that's e that already exists Carolyn Vaughan: Yeah, Alexandra Stafford: okay Carolyn Vaughan: I got it Alexandra Stafford: okay. Carolyn Vaughan: at my home, Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm. Carolyn Vaughan: like. Alexandra Stafford: Oh yeah, you do Carolyn Vaughan: Oops. Alexandra Stafford: have. Wow. Melissa Lopez: Ah Alexandra Stafford: You're Melissa Lopez: it's Alexandra Stafford: trendy. Sandra Stallcup: Mm-hmm, so let's to think s Alexandra Stafford: Think about Sandra Stallcup: so Alexandra Stafford: it. Sandra Stallcup: that Alexandra Stafford: Yeah, Sandra Stallcup: yeah. I Alexandra Stafford: okay. Sandra Stallcup: think that could be in the component uh concept Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: uh. It yes. Alexandra Stafford: Okay. Sandra Stallcup: Okay. Alexandra Stafford: Good we're done? Sandra Stallcup: So, yeah Melissa Lopez: Yeah. Sandra Stallcup: let's, Alexandra Stafford: Right, Sandra Stallcup: go Alexandra Stafford: thanks. Sandra Stallcup: to lunch. Melissa Lopez: Thank you, thank you very much.	Sandra Stallcup opened the meeting and stated the agenda to the team members. Alexandra Stafford discussed the findings of a survey which indicated that current remotes are ugly, difficult to use, have a number of unused buttons, frustrate users when misplaced, and contribute to RSI. Alexandra Stafford also stated that young users like speech recognition and that users in general want buttons for power, channel selection, volume control, and a few lesser used settings. Carolyn Vaughan presented existing remotes to exemplify the need for simpler designs, discussed the use of components such as titanium and a back-lit LCD screen, and discussed other features to consider such as color options. Melissa Lopez discussed the interior workings of a remote and how to handle universal capability and speech recognition. After Sandra Stallcup's closing, Sandra Stallcup recapped some decisions and the team discussed how to handle the issue of locating a remote when misplaced.	4	amisum	train
Staci Mcneil: So we come again for the the second meeting. Toni Vrbka: Mm-hmm. Staci Mcneil: Uh for the aim of this meeting now is to to make presentation about uh the work for each one. And take the the decision Toni Vrbka: Okay. Staci Mcneil: about the the design and the functionality of the the remote control. Doris Fuller: Okay. Staci Mcneil: And we have think I got a new project requirement. So I think uh teletext becomes outdated. So Doris Fuller: Okay. Staci Mcneil: the popularity of the since the popularity of the internet, and I think we don't need lighting adaptive, for the the television. And of course we should have our image in the in the design. So, let's start with the Doris Fuller. Doris Fuller: Yeah, alright. So Staci Mcneil: Or Doris Fuller: uh Staci Mcneil: y you can use the whiteboard Doris Fuller: Well I have Staci Mcneil: if you Doris Fuller: a Staci Mcneil: want. Doris Fuller: PowerPoint pr presentation stored Staci Mcneil: Here. Doris Fuller: in my in my personal folder so I I I think you can reach it from here. Linda Etheridge: Just go to explorer. Or open. Staci Mcneil: Oh okay. Linda Etheridge: Participant. Doris Fuller: Participant two. Staci Mcneil: This one. Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: Open uh. Doris Fuller: Uh open. Staci Mcneil: Do you want to open Toni Vrbka: Because it's you mean. Doris Fuller: Right, so um I will talk about the the w Toni Vrbka: F_ five. Doris Fuller: working design and Linda Etheridge: Slide show, view slide show, Staci Mcneil: Ah. Doris Fuller: And um well I I will present my my first idea on how to build the our new remote control for television. So uh can you go one page down, please. So I things do is to define the hardware components neededs to achieve uh what we want to do. So uh mm I'm thin uh I think uh I I'll do a survey about what is uh what is available on the market and what what is the the cheapest possible things we hav we can use. Then uh I will try with the technical team to to build a prototype and to see uh with uh h how this little box would uh look look like. And how an and we can uh start troubleshooting first uh com communication problems or things like that. And when we are ready with this first prototype I I think we can add some software functionalities on a programmable chip like browsing by content or um things like that. Okay so can you go down uh So, wha what I think for now is we don't want to have a remote control w which is wired so uh I think we u we can use a battery for the. Then two programmable chips for both software functionalities and communication. And the communication with the T_V_ set is uh made through uh infrared communication So uh this is the the schema of Toni Vrbka: Did you draw it? Doris Fuller: the Staci Mcneil: Wow. Doris Fuller: o of the future uh remote controls so uh you can you can see the components, uh battery and uh the two chips goes to the infrared uh connection to Toni Vrbka: This. Doris Fuller: the T_V_ set. Staci Mcneil: This Toni Vrbka: What is the other chip for? The one on top. Doris Fuller: The one on top is for the um well Linda Etheridge: One is Doris Fuller: the Linda Etheridge: a communication. Doris Fuller: functionali the functionalities and the the th red um sorry the green one is is to well, putting things together, um f transform the data into uh Toni Vrbka: For Doris Fuller: qu Toni Vrbka: men. Doris Fuller: into the format to Toni Vrbka: To the Doris Fuller: to Toni Vrbka: in Doris Fuller: uh to communicate with the T_V_ set. Toni Vrbka: Okay. Doris Fuller: And, that's it. I think we should use a F_P_G_A_ for Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: for the functionalities which is easy to Toni Vrbka: What Doris Fuller: to Toni Vrbka: is F_P_G_A_? Doris Fuller: t It's field programmable uh something Linda Etheridge: Gateway Doris Fuller: array. Linda Etheridge: arrays. Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: It's a field programmable gateway arrays. Toni Vrbka: So why's it how is it different from the Bluetooth? Doris Fuller: Well, uh a F_P_G_A_ is just a chip you Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: can uh you can Toni Vrbka: Programme it. Doris Fuller: pr Linda Etheridge: Yeah. Doris Fuller: programme it uh wi with wh whatever you want. Toni Vrbka: Okay. Doris Fuller: And uh well the Bluetooth chip is just responsible to uh make Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: the communication uh between Toni Vrbka: Uh Doris Fuller: uh the two devices. Toni Vrbka: So this are the they have to work together? Or? they have to work Doris Fuller: No. Toni Vrbka: or two Doris Fuller: Well, th the F_P_G_A_ will produce the the data to send. Toni Vrbka: Okay. Linda Etheridge: Or it's something like isn't hardware the first one? And the second one is Toni Vrbka: Is the Linda Etheridge: for the software. Toni Vrbka: is the software par Linda Etheridge: Yeah to Toni Vrbka: alri Linda Etheridge: run Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: th Toni Vrbka: okay. Linda Etheridge: to make it run. That's Toni Vrbka: Okay, Linda Etheridge: it. Toni Vrbka: okay. So you can control if you want, right? Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: No. Doris Fuller: Alright and that's it for the working design. So if you have any questions? Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: Okay, and how about the battery power? power to the battery comes through infrared? Doris Fuller: Uh no no no no, I think uh we have uh to to uh have uh embedded uh b batteries in in the Linda Etheridge: Into the Doris Fuller: yeah into the t. Linda Etheridge: more compact and Doris Fuller: Yeah, Linda Etheridge: uh Doris Fuller: yeah. Linda Etheridge: okay, Doris Fuller: And uh I I don't think it will need um very uh Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: much power to Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: make it run, so Linda Etheridge: Yeah, yeah. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: Okay. Toni Vrbka: You can put it on the charger when uh you when you don't Doris Fuller: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: need to use it. Doris Fuller: It's a good idea. Linda Etheridge: Yeah, that's right. Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: Having a charger rather than putting the battery cells Toni Vrbka: Yeah, Linda Etheridge: always. Doris Fuller: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: yeah. Linda Etheridge: People don't like it to have to Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: buy the batteries when they run out. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: We Toni Vrbka: Uh Linda Etheridge: just make a small Toni Vrbka: mm. Y Linda Etheridge: charger Toni Vrbka: yeah, Linda Etheridge: and put Toni Vrbka: yeah. Linda Etheridge: it Toni Vrbka: Because Doris Fuller: That's Toni Vrbka: you Doris Fuller: a Toni Vrbka: are Doris Fuller: good Toni Vrbka: using Staci Mcneil: You Doris Fuller: idea. Staci Mcneil: can i yeah. Toni Vrbka: because you are using Staci Mcneil: Ma Toni Vrbka: Bluetooth, if some people have P_D_A_ they can use their P_D_A_ to control the T_V_ if they want to, right? Doris Fuller: Also, but Linda Etheridge: Bu Doris Fuller: but I Toni Vrbka: I dunno. Staci Mcneil: Yeah we can Doris Fuller: I Staci Mcneil: change Doris Fuller: I think Staci Mcneil: the Doris Fuller: uh the the Staci Mcneil: b. Doris Fuller: goal is to sell our Linda Etheridge: Our Doris Fuller: remote Linda Etheridge: remote, Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: we do not Doris Fuller: control. Linda Etheridge: want to make it P_D_A_. Doris Fuller: S okay, so charger for is the. Staci Mcneil: Um. Toni Vrbka: So is mine. Staci Mcneil: It's mine. Toni Vrbka: Oh. Staci Mcneil: Participant one, no? Toni Vrbka: Yeah, this your Staci Mcneil: Mm. Oh we have so let's move to to user interface design. Toni Vrbka: Yeah. So you can open uh Staci Mcneil: Participant Toni Vrbka: three. Yeah. So So I'm working on the technical functions design. can you show the next slide. So the the purpose is to to find uh the important questions to ask is what effect should the apparatus have. So so I found on a webs on the internet Staci Mcneil: During the weekend. Toni Vrbka: yeah. I spent a lot of time searching Staci Mcneil: That's Toni Vrbka: and Staci Mcneil: good. Toni Vrbka: uh and I found that uh the function of remote control is to send messages to television set. Staci Mcneil: Mm-hmm. Linda Etheridge: G Toni Vrbka: For example switch on, switch off, switch the next channel and so on and so on. So I found two very good prototypes for for this interface from our competitors so can you Staci Mcneil: This are usual functionality. Toni Vrbka: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ours is a bit uh different. So these are two example. One is from the other one is from, Staci Mcneil: Tasks. Toni Vrbka: yeah, uh engineering centr yeah. This is the most competing prototypes I've found. But then uh loo but then I found if you look at you see on the left one there are too many buttons Staci Mcneil: And they are small. Toni Vrbka: Yeah. O on the right I tried to play with the problem is that uh if I have hundred channels I have uh I have to choo press the other button to choose the Doris Fuller: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: hundred channels and I have to compose the number so it's very lousy. Doris Fuller: Of Staci Mcneil: Mm-hmm. Toni Vrbka: So you Doris Fuller: course. Toni Vrbka: so you move to the next the next one. Yeah, so I talk about the problem. And then I I look at the user manual they are a hundred pages thick, so we don't want that. Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: So I propose the easy to use uh prototype. You can navigate on T_V_ screen and we can the user's preference and we need to have the T_V_ connected to internet so we end in order to access the T_V_ programmes by X_M_L_ and we need some to do some preprocessing. From the technical aspect, the processing should be done on the T_V_ set than on the on the remote controller, right? And then we the speech recognition as uh Harry says we may just put in we may K_I_V_. Staci Mcneil: What do you mean by the pa pa processing will be done on the T_V_ Toni Vrbka: Yeah, all the processing Staci Mcneil: than the Toni Vrbka: is done the T_V_ is a compu has some processing power the Doris Fuller: So we Staci Mcneil: So Doris Fuller: have Staci Mcneil: we Doris Fuller: to Staci Mcneil: should Doris Fuller: t Staci Mcneil: have specific T_V_? Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Staci Mcneil: Or? Doris Fuller: We have to Staci Mcneil: We Doris Fuller: sell Staci Mcneil: can Doris Fuller: a Staci Mcneil: use this. Doris Fuller: T_V_ with the remote Staci Mcneil: Yeah, Doris Fuller: control too. Staci Mcneil: we don't Toni Vrbka: Yeah because are you just wondering what controller Staci Mcneil: Yeah, I think Toni Vrbka: okay. Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Staci Mcneil: so. Linda Etheridge: not Staci Mcneil: J Doris Fuller: I think Staci Mcneil: j Linda Etheridge: the T_V_s. Staci Mcneil: just the Doris Fuller: there Staci Mcneil: remote Doris Fuller: there is Staci Mcneil: control. Doris Fuller: there is al there there is a a technology like show view Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: who is already available on most of the T_V_ set on recorders or thing like that and we can try t to get this information Toni Vrbka: Okay. Doris Fuller: on to the remote control to Linda Etheridge: Yeah. Doris Fuller: to do Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: the processing on the remote control Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Doris Fuller: because Linda Etheridge: that's right. Toni Vrbka: Okay. So i the Staci Mcneil: Mm. Toni Vrbka: processing on on the remote controller Staci Mcneil: Yeah, Toni Vrbka: so it can Staci Mcneil: we. Toni Vrbka: u be used in any T_V_, any conventional T_V_ sets? Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Okay. Staci Mcneil: Speech recognition. Toni Vrbka: N yeah, that's all. The next one? So I come up with a simple design, just keep the v navigation buttons. Doris Fuller: Yes, that's a good idea, I think. Staci Mcneil: Keep the Doris Fuller: We Staci Mcneil: navigation Doris Fuller: d we don't we we Staci Mcneil: but Doris Fuller: don't need really much buttons to i if we have a screen to navigate on Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: on the T_V_ so uh Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: Well, f four five buttons, it's Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: sufficient. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: It's easy to build, Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Doris Fuller: it Linda Etheridge: that's Doris Fuller: does Linda Etheridge: right. Doris Fuller: not consume much power. Toni Vrbka: Okay, that's Linda Etheridge: Oh, Toni Vrbka: all. Linda Etheridge: but you have a catch there, um assume that um if you want to go to if you are watching channel two and if you want to go to channel ninety nine, then. Doris Fuller: Well, then y you you go to the main menu and uh you have uh go to channel and Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: then Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: uh you Toni Vrbka: No, Doris Fuller: can Toni Vrbka: because you choose by channel, so Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: Uh-huh huh Toni Vrbka: you choose Doris Fuller: Maybe Linda Etheridge: huh huh. Toni Vrbka: by T_V_ Doris Fuller: you. Toni Vrbka: program so you don't have hundred channels to choose from. Linda Etheridge: Mm-hmm hmm Toni Vrbka: If you Linda Etheridge: hmm. Toni Vrbka: go by channel, you don't have to do that. Doris Fuller: but uh Linda Etheridge: But Doris Fuller: I I think i Staci Mcneil: So you are Doris Fuller: i if you if you want to to make uh Toni Vrbka: Ah. Doris Fuller: well a a big jump Toni Vrbka: Ah, Linda Etheridge: Yeah Toni Vrbka: a big Linda Etheridge: then Toni Vrbka: jump. Doris Fuller: but Linda Etheridge: yeah that's right. Doris Fuller: uh well you you have to to have a a a device when you could you could Toni Vrbka: A mouse or Doris Fuller: Well, not a mouse but uh something that that says more clearly that uh right, left, up, down, Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: Mm hmm Doris Fuller: well, Linda Etheridge: hmm. Okay. Staci Mcneil: Mm. Doris Fuller: the to have the ability to to to write something to the navigator, maybe directly, or Linda Etheridge: Okay. Doris Fuller: So, Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: we can think of buttons like in the telephone to send messages or things like that. Toni Vrbka: Mm-hmm. Doris Fuller: But Staci Mcneil: How Doris Fuller: we'll Staci Mcneil: the Doris Fuller: see. Staci Mcneil: this remote? Toni Vrbka: Uh it's gonna be small. Staci Mcneil: Yeah, of course Toni Vrbka: Yeah. So it'll beep Staci Mcneil: small. Linda Etheridge: too small that it goes Toni Vrbka: if Linda Etheridge: under Toni Vrbka: you Linda Etheridge: the sofa Toni Vrbka: wanna Linda Etheridge: and we can't find Toni Vrbka: find it you just Linda Etheridge: it. Toni Vrbka: uh shout y h just it just has to re respond to you when you look for the device. Linda Etheridge: Yeah, that's. Toni Vrbka: I dunno how Linda Etheridge: just give it a name Toni Vrbka: bu Linda Etheridge: and we call him. Toni Vrbka: And responds to you, Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Toni Vrbka: and Linda Etheridge: that's right. Yeah, that's right. Doris Fuller: Okay, so uh next presentation Staci Mcneil: Participant four. Staci Mcneil: So Harry. Linda Etheridge: Okay, after having the inputs from industrial design and user Doris Fuller: Mm. Linda Etheridge: interface, I think most of the points which I want to are already covered here. And to find the most interesting features what the users would be interested, then what we have done is we have put a feedback forms in all the magazines, and the users send the feedbacks, and based on that These are the findings which we got and yeah adding of a speech interface is always good for a T_V_ remote but the technology We already know that as Doris Fuller: Well Linda Etheridge: discussed Doris Fuller: I I Linda Etheridge: earlier Doris Fuller: think it will be a, yes, a bit complicated to um make a speech recognisers runs on the small uh ts Linda Etheridge: An it Toni Vrbka: I- Linda Etheridge: does how Toni Vrbka: mm. Linda Etheridge: feasible it is. Toni Vrbka: But I think if you to recognise numbers it's a well-studied problem. I if you just recognise uh numbers is a limited you have limited Linda Etheridge: Oh Toni Vrbka: vocabulary Linda Etheridge: we can put an limited vocabulary as in the mobile phones. Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: We just have the Toni Vrbka: Mm. Yeah. Doris Fuller: so it's a good idea. Linda Etheridge: it's not going to take much space also. It's going to be very slim. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: And Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: next one was the size of the remote control. It has to be of course a very slim and small one. And of course most of the people are interested in if it's less expensive, Toni Vrbka: Mm. Staci Mcneil: Mm-hmm. Linda Etheridge: so this is an important criteria here Toni Vrbka: But Linda Etheridge: is Staci Mcneil: But do you think what they sug suggested s possibility. Linda Etheridge: I mean Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: we have to look for a trade-off. The Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: features and the cost. Toni Vrbka: I Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: no I I think that uh i if we go for quality people may tolerate for high quality and of course comes with uh reasonable cost. Maybe not less, but they may be willing to pay Linda Etheridge: Little bit more Toni Vrbka: little Doris Fuller: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: if Staci Mcneil: It Toni Vrbka: bit Linda Etheridge: it's Toni Vrbka: more for Linda Etheridge: with extra Toni Vrbka: comfort, Linda Etheridge: features. Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: yeah, extra features. Doris Fuller: Yeah, s Linda Etheridge: Okay. Doris Fuller: s speech is a important extra feature I Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Doris Fuller: think Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: yeah. That's right. Staci Mcneil: But is Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Staci Mcneil: it useful or not u Doris Fuller: Well, Staci Mcneil: I don't Doris Fuller: uh Staci Mcneil: know. There is in Linda Etheridge: I mean, for Staci Mcneil: the Linda Etheridge: a lazy guys they could say nine and the nine channel comes. Or they say movie name or I don't go for movie names but only for the numbers on the channel, or volume up, volume Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: down, brightness, contrast. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Staci Mcneil: Mm. Linda Etheridge: So, I think this should be a good idea, to put this features. And the fourth one was the teletext in various languages. Doris Fuller: we we just have to find a mean how to Linda Etheridge: Mm, Doris Fuller: to Linda Etheridge: I Doris Fuller: add Linda Etheridge: think Doris Fuller: a m a a a microphone or uh well yes a microphone into the the remote control, so I well Staci Mcneil: I think Doris Fuller: it Staci Mcneil: i Doris Fuller: will be alright. Toni Vrbka: What is the teletext? Staci Mcneil: If it's necessary can you can Toni Vrbka: Mm. Staci Mcneil: do that. We can integrate small microphone in the Doris Fuller: Yeah. Staci Mcneil: remote so it's not really a problem. Doris Fuller: Okay. Staci Mcneil: What about lighting adaptive options? Linda Etheridge: Yeah as discussed Staci Mcneil: According Linda Etheridge: in the earlier Staci Mcneil: to the Linda Etheridge: meeting, Staci Mcneil: re to the new Linda Etheridge: but Staci Mcneil: requirements I think we Linda Etheridge: I Staci Mcneil: don't Linda Etheridge: think Staci Mcneil: need Linda Etheridge: uh Staci Mcneil: that. Linda Etheridge: not much people are really Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: interested in this point if it's not really Toni Vrbka: It Linda Etheridge: required. Toni Vrbka: is interesting but we are only concerned with the remote controller. Staci Mcneil: Mm. Toni Vrbka: So you need s special T_V_ sets to do that? Or it's it's done via this remote controller? It's Linda Etheridge: I Toni Vrbka: very Linda Etheridge: mean Toni Vrbka: complex. Doris Fuller: Yeah, I think it's a bit complex too Linda Etheridge: I mean yeah, it's for the um industrial design and users interface designers to decide Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: if it's going to be working or not. Doris Fuller: For our next product, our Linda Etheridge: I Doris Fuller: new Linda Etheridge: think Doris Fuller: T_V_ set with Toni Vrbka: Yeah, Doris Fuller: uh Toni Vrbka: then we can conclude Doris Fuller: automatical Toni Vrbka: that. Doris Fuller: uh sound Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Doris Fuller: adjustment Toni Vrbka: Yeah, Doris Fuller: light Toni Vrbka: but it's quite possible but maybe not in this project. Staci Mcneil: So we have I think we have s still we have couple of minutes. Mm-mm. Staci Mcneil: So any things to to discuss? Linda Etheridge: I Staci Mcneil: Or Linda Etheridge: think Staci Mcneil: any Linda Etheridge: as I Staci Mcneil: suggestions? Linda Etheridge: discussed th that four points would be good for um marketing. The speech interface and uh less uh Staci Mcneil: Expensive. Linda Etheridge: reasonable Staci Mcneil: Price. Linda Etheridge: uh cost. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: And the lighting adaptation and the teletext. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: And regarding the teletext uh these are the subtitl these are the text information which you got on the televisions. Toni Vrbka: Okay. Linda Etheridge: If you are watching an foreign movie, Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Linda Etheridge: you get subtitles sometimes. Toni Vrbka: Okay. Linda Etheridge: And uh if Toni Vrbka: Mm. Linda Etheridge: you are a French guy watching an English movie you would like to have it in French. And if I am a German then I would like to have the my options in German. So, the remote it should have some Doris Fuller: Function. Linda Etheridge: it should give Linda Etheridge some flexibility of choosing the ch languages. That should be a good uh point. Doris Fuller: Yeah, but well what about the the new project's requirement? I I I think we should Staci Mcneil: I think we Doris Fuller: give Staci Mcneil: we Doris Fuller: up Staci Mcneil: can Doris Fuller: with teletext, Staci Mcneil: we Doris Fuller: no? Staci Mcneil: is Doris Fuller: Yes. Staci Mcneil: the. Doris Fuller: Well, so maybe we we can j we can already think uh about a way to to access the internet via the television. Toni Vrbka: Mm. Doris Fuller: Because if Toni Vrbka: Using the T_V_ to access the internet? Or what? I didn't quite understand Doris Fuller: Yeah, but Staci Mcneil: Yeah. Doris Fuller: uh we can think that in a few years there will be T_V_ set that can access the internet. Toni Vrbka: Yeah, okay. Doris Fuller: So Linda Etheridge: We already Doris Fuller: it's Linda Etheridge: have Doris Fuller: a good Linda Etheridge: some. Doris Fuller: idea if i i if we i if if we uh think about how to to to build up our remote uh control w with this functionality in a w which will c which will come in a few years. So if we already have it in our Staci Mcneil: So you have to Doris Fuller: remote Staci Mcneil: anticipate Doris Fuller: control Staci Mcneil: the the future? Doris Fuller: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: Yeah. The future Doris Fuller: Yeah. Toni Vrbka: demand, market demand. Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Doris Fuller: Yeah, to desi Linda Etheridge: that's right. Doris Fuller: well, not not to implement it, but to well, to find a way to to add Toni Vrbka: The Doris Fuller: to Toni Vrbka: functionality Doris Fuller: add this functionality in a Toni Vrbka: in the future. Staci Mcneil: In future. Doris Fuller: yeah, Toni Vrbka: Alright. Doris Fuller: in an in an easy manner, if is possible. Toni Vrbka: Yeah. Because all the T_V_ sets will be digital, right. All the programmes, everything will be in digital than analog. Th the system will change and Doris Fuller: Yeah, yeah. Toni Vrbka: we have to anticipate for those change. Linda Etheridge: Yeah, Doris Fuller: Okay. Staci Mcneil: Okay. Doris Fuller: So Staci Mcneil: So let's go for the the lunch break, and Doris Fuller: Okay, Staci Mcneil: we will Doris Fuller: thank Staci Mcneil: meet Doris Fuller: you. Linda Etheridge: Okay, Toni Vrbka: Okay. Linda Etheridge: thank you. Staci Mcneil: after. Toni Vrbka: Thank you.	Staci Mcneil presented the goals of the meeting and new product requirements. Doris Fuller presented the internal components of a remote control and showed a diagram of how they operate together. He suggested that field programmable gateway arrays be used for the chip controlling software functionalities, and it was suggested that the remote be used with a recharging stand. Toni Vrbka gave a presentation on the technical functions of the remote, and displayed the interfaces of two existing products for comparison. He showed that the competitors' remotes were too complicated. He suggested that the televisions that the remotes are used with connect to the internet to access downloadable programs. He suggested a simple design with few buttons, small size, and a locator function. Linda Etheridge presented several characteristics important to users. He discussed using speech recognition and ways to make it feasible for the project, small size, low price point, and incorporating teletext in different languages. The group discussed the new requirement that required them to omit teletext from their design, and discussed the possibility of using the remote to access the internet through the television.	4	amisum	train
Kiana Dagel: Oops That's as far as it goes. Doris Shehee: Hi guys uh good morning everybody here. And uh want to introduce myself, uh my name is uh Shrida Daseri and uh I'm a project manager for this new project which we are going to discuss now. So I want to introduce first of all uh the names and the colleagues here. And what you're uh drawing? Ola Chavez: Uh sure my name is Agnes and user usability user interface designer. Leslie Richardson: My name is Ed and I do accounting. Doris Shehee: Uh how you spell your name uh? Leslie Richardson: E_D_. Doris Shehee: E_D_ okay. Leslie Richardson: Mm. Doris Shehee: And? Kiana Dagel: Do you also do marketing? Leslie Richardson: No. Doris Shehee: So only accounting? Leslie Richardson: Accounting, Doris Shehee: Okay. Leslie Richardson: yes. Doris Shehee: And? Kiana Dagel: And I'm Christine, Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Kiana Dagel: and my role in this uh scenario is to be Kiana Dagel. Doris Shehee: Industrial designer. Kiana Dagel: But I'm not really one. Doris Shehee: So who is uh marketing, nobody Leslie Richardson: Marketing Doris Shehee: in the market Leslie Richardson: is uh, is Leslie Richardson. Doris Shehee: okay. So thanks for coming for the meeting first of all, and uh we have a long time, just twenty-five minutes to discuss about uh this project and the the project initiation. First of all I want to ask uh Mister Ed about your uh marketing plan and your product plan and uh Leslie Richardson: Well I think that we'll see that throughout the day in how we're going to put this together as a marketing to to market the product. We'll have to see on a through discussion on where we're gonna go from here and from with this. Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm but uh do you already have like a functional design or a technical design Leslie Richardson: Uh Doris Shehee: or Leslie Richardson: for the moment not yet. Doris Shehee: Oh for the moment not yet, okay, but uh what's what's your uh do you have some project plan, something with you or Leslie Richardson: Good question. No, we have to be discussed between all of us and we'll go from there. We'll have to Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: simply we'll have to work on it together. Doris Shehee: Okay, so uh by when you think you can uh give Leslie Richardson some kind of uh project plan, okay, a discussion with Leslie Richardson: Certainly Doris Shehee: uh Leslie Richardson: by the next meeting. Doris Shehee: By next meeting, okay that will be great. Uh Okay, so there's any questions or uh first of all about uh this project? Kiana Dagel: What is the goal of the project? Doris Shehee: Uh the goal of the project I think maybe I'll uh hand out to the Ed, okay, so to explain uh what is the project because he's in the sales and the accounting. Leslie Richardson: I'm in the sales I'm supposed to explain them what to do. We have to define exactly what our product is, from uh Doris Shehee: Yes, so can you explain uh what exactly the product is? Leslie Richardson: From what I had in mind we're supposed to be marketing coffee, is that right? Doris Shehee: Oh I think Ola Chavez: Um I Doris Shehee: uh, Ola Chavez: was wondering Doris Shehee: if I'm not wrong, we're making the remote control. Leslie Richardson: Remote controls, 'cause I had two different things. I had a first part of mine was to make a remote control for a new f remote control for television, and afterward I had a discussion about coffee so Doris Shehee: Yes. Leslie Richardson: we'll start with the remote control for television then. So we're have to design something that is very user friendly. Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Ola Chavez: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: Something uh visual that has something that will will draw people to buy the product, Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: because I think everybody's experienced with uh remote controls, and some remote controls are are worth uh throwing out the window. Uh th most of them ar I don't know we're have to come up with a new idea on how to make it a lot easier to use, Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: 'cause a lot of times uh spend uh half a day through the instruction book trying to figure out how to use it. Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Ola Chavez: Mm. Doris Shehee: And uh what abo uh Christine, what about your uh the industrial design plan? Are you have a design already on this product or uh you're still working on the design? Kiana Dagel: Um no, I I have not begun working on the design, Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Kiana Dagel: and um I uh I actually didn't know we were designing a remote control, I thought we were designing a new monitor. Um the website I of a um uh some sort of a seven inch um monitor, and um I understood that that was the project goal. So um I'm glad I didn't d do any work um ahead of time because uh I clearly didn't understand the project goal. Doris Shehee: Okay. Kiana Dagel: Um I just did s see that we were starting a new project together and there was going to be a four member team composed of these people, and um that's about uh that's Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Kiana Dagel: and I I read through the different steps, and what my responsibilities were relative to the steps. Doris Shehee: So uh you'll be leading the team for your design team or how many members is working in the team, for the design? Kiana Dagel: Uh for the industrial design? Doris Shehee: Yes. Kiana Dagel: Um well, I would th think that depends on how much money you give us. Doris Shehee: Okay. That's Kiana Dagel: Um because uh, you know, you can uh you can make it uh you have different choices with different financial models. Doris Shehee: Yeah, but uh before we talk about uh the finance, okay, uh do you have some idea how we can uh sell this product or project in the market and how much is going to benefit to the company and uh of course it's to the individual also. Kiana Dagel: Well, you know um, I kind of think that in general you have to do uh um y you have to have something that's very fashionable, that's uh very attractive that um people see and recognize uh its goal, and uh they immediately wanna have it uh have one of their own. So it would really would need to um something like the iPod would be good, seems to have caught on fairly well, so Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Kiana Dagel: um d uh you know, I don't care what it does, just so it looks cool. Doris Shehee: Okay, but uh uh when you think you can give Leslie Richardson like a kind of design on the functional design or the technical design? Kiana Dagel: Well, uh I've got a lot of other projects I'm doing right now um and so I'll have to wait and see how those uh how those go. If they uh go quickly then uh it could be a month. If um if I run into any problems in my other projects it might be six months. Doris Shehee: Yeah, but uh I need something in the writing, so like uh what's your functional design, what's your technical design, and uh how many people you need for this project, Kiana Dagel: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: and what's the time frame you're looking, okay, Kiana Dagel: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: and what is the budget, maybe uh initial budget you're looking, okay, and uh how is going to the market, okay, so you've you've had to meet with the marketing team and how they're going to market and what are the marketing strategic plan, okay, when are you going to introduce, okay, and by the time you introduce the product and uh you know there there would be a competition, okay, so I need some kind of uh uh the plan in the writing from you. Okay, and Kiana Dagel: And Doris Shehee: it's po Kiana Dagel: when would you like that? Doris Shehee: B as soon as possible. Kiana Dagel: Uh well if uh if we have enough time uh then d do you think um two weeks is a is close enough? Doris Shehee: Yes I think uh that would be good, because I need to go to the management and uh tell them what we are going to do, and uh what cost is, okay, and what's the time frame and what's the project plan, because uh without any uh documentations, I cannot go to the management and say, so we are going to do this and we need this much money, okay, so then it's it's difficult for Leslie Richardson to say, okay, that's the reason I need uh some kind of plan from you, initially, okay, then we can have the further discussion again. Kiana Dagel: Uh are there other people who will be contributing to the plan? Doris Shehee: Yes, of course, if you need some help, uh so let Leslie Richardson know. So, who are the people you need uh from the marketing or uh the technical side or uh the administration point of view, okay, to add in any documentation, or some technical point of view, so just let Leslie Richardson know so I can uh coordinate all the teams. Kiana Dagel: Okay, I'll get back to you on that. Doris Shehee: Yes. Thank you. Okay. And uh Ed uh so what's what do you think about uh this uh project for the remote control and d do you have some already planned something for your marketing strategy or uh the sales strategy? Leslie Richardson: Well not yet other than uh doing research and taking remote controls and looking what other companies have to do Doris Shehee: Hmm. Leslie Richardson: uh, what they're building, their designs, their ideas, uh also have to pinpoint which market we're gonna go into. Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: It should be a fairly large market because uh the number of people that uh the competition, Doris Shehee: Mm-hmm. Leslie Richardson: uh th I agree it has to be something it has to be something new, it has to be something that that draws people saying eh, I like this. Whether it works or not, they have to first say I like this, I like the design, and then it's gotta be simple to use. Doris Shehee: Yes, so what I uh prefer maybe uh you need to interact uh more with the Christine, okay, because you know what she is going to do it, okay, and you know how to sell it. Okay, because uh she is doing the design, but Leslie Richardson: Yeah. Doris Shehee: you are the core because you are in the marketing, okay, so because you need to sell and you're the responsible for the all the money, the finance, okay, Leslie Richardson: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: tomorrow. So, what I prefer, Leslie Richardson: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: and uh you need to come up with some kind of plan, okay, how we are going to do the your sales plan, okay, Leslie Richardson: Do we Doris Shehee: th Leslie Richardson: already have a cost limit on this, th an idea of how much uh we Doris Shehee: Th Leslie Richardson: want to market this for, Doris Shehee: That Leslie Richardson: how much it's Doris Shehee: that's Leslie Richardson: gonna sell for, that's up that's up to us to decide, Doris Shehee: Yes, that's Leslie Richardson: eh? Doris Shehee: you have to decide, okay, so the best thing is you uh both of uh the Christine and you discuss with yourself, okay, and come up with the cost, and how we are going to compete in the market, okay, in the the technically, or in the sales wise, okay, the commercial wise, okay. Then uh we have to design, okay, how long it will take the whole project, okay, how much is going to cost us, and how much we are going to benefit for the company. Okay, of course it's it's uh of benefit for everybody individually. Okay, so I think it's uh maybe if we can uh give Leslie Richardson some kind of your uh the sales plan, okay, including the technical what uh she's going to talk to you within the team, okay, then it will help Leslie Richardson to discuss with the management for further, okay, and put it in the the proper project plan. Okay, Leslie Richardson: Very good. Doris Shehee: and if you need uh any coordination in between uh compared to the maybe the some technical vendors or commercial vendors, okay, depends if you want to have some uh uh marketing plan or technical plan, okay, so you let Leslie Richardson know. Okay, I can Leslie Richardson: Very Doris Shehee: coordinate, Leslie Richardson: good. Doris Shehee: or maybe uh, you are my coordinator, am I right? Ola Chavez: Mm. Doris Shehee: Between uh all Ola Chavez: Well, Doris Shehee: the coor Ola Chavez: no, not exactly. I mean my job from what I understood was to look at the usability requirements and make sure that the product is usable, it's acceptable to the people who are gonna use it and look at the best ways to do that. Doris Shehee: Yeah. Th Christine, yeah. Ola Chavez: my Doris Shehee: Which is Ola Chavez: studies will show right off the bat that it's not going to work, and so it's sort of it's a loop that feeds in, but I don't think necessarily that I'm Doris Shehee: Yes. Ola Chavez: in a coordinating position Doris Shehee: Yeah, Ola Chavez: for Doris Shehee: so Ola Chavez: it. Doris Shehee: basically you need to interact with Christine more, okay, for the user acceptability, Ola Chavez: Yeah. Doris Shehee: okay, and the testing, okay, Ola Chavez: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: then you Ola Chavez: Which will Doris Shehee: will Ola Chavez: also feed into the marketing, Doris Shehee: Yes. Ola Chavez: because depending on what users want, depends on how you sell it, Doris Shehee: Yes. Ola Chavez: what tag lines you attach Doris Shehee: Yeah. Ola Chavez: to it, how you try Doris Shehee: Yeah. Ola Chavez: to make it more attractive Doris Shehee: Yeah. Ola Chavez: to users. So I think all three groups will need to interact quite a bit. Um, and then I guess build the plan based on all of that, because I think you need to take all the factors into account. Doris Shehee: Yep. But what I request, okay, keep Ed in the loop, okay, Ola Chavez: Yeah, of Doris Shehee: in Ola Chavez: course. Doris Shehee: between your uh meeting and Christine meeting, because uh he should know what's happening. Ola Chavez: Yeah, we can C_C_ Doris Shehee: Yes. Ola Chavez: him on any Doris Shehee: Okay Ola Chavez: discussions Doris Shehee: and Ola Chavez: or Doris Shehee: please Ola Chavez: documents Doris Shehee: please Ola Chavez: that Doris Shehee: copy Ola Chavez: are passed Doris Shehee: all Ola Chavez: around. Doris Shehee: the mails, okay, all the discussions to Leslie Richardson, okay, Ola Chavez: Sure. Doris Shehee: so I need to submit to the management. Ola Chavez: No problem. Doris Shehee: So any questions for uh time being? Leslie Richardson: No. Ola Chavez: So, the immediate next step is to start determining the functional design, Doris Shehee: Yes. Ola Chavez: or okay. Doris Shehee: Okay. To come up with the functional design and uh to discuss with Ed, okay, and how it's going to be work, and uh first of all with your user acceptance, Ola Chavez: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: okay, how it looks like and how it's going to be work in the market, okay, so then we can discuss about uh further things. Ola Chavez: Okay. Doris Shehee: So, we'll meet when the we'll discuss on the further meeting. It's okay? Ola Chavez: Mm-hmm. Doris Shehee: Thanks for coming. Kiana Dagel: Would you mind um at the conclusion of our meeting could could you send us a copy of your slides? Doris Shehee: Yes, Ola Chavez: Mm-hmm, Doris Shehee: I Ola Chavez: yeah, Doris Shehee: will. Ola Chavez: that would be useful. Doris Shehee: Yes. I'll copy, uh le let us keep all the emails and all the copies, okay, share each other, okay, so you know everybody what's happening, Ola Chavez: Sure. Doris Shehee: okay? And if anything you need anytime so please either you can call Leslie Richardson, or just send Leslie Richardson email, or uh just come and uh knock my door, okay, so I'm available here. It's good? Ola Chavez: Okay. Doris Shehee: Okay, Kiana Dagel: Thank you. Doris Shehee: thanks Ola Chavez: Thanks. Doris Shehee: for coming and uh I wish you a nice time then. Ola Chavez: Thank you. Doris Shehee: Okay, see you later. Bye.	The group introduced themselves to each other and discussed their roles in the project. Doris Shehee opened a discussion about the project plan and asked Leslie Richardson to prepare an overall plan for the project. Leslie Richardson presented the initial aim of the project: the creation of a fresh, user-friendly remote control device. Doris Shehee asked Kiana Dagel to create a functional design plan for the device, then asked Leslie Richardson about ideas for the sales strategy. Leslie Richardson presented an initial sales plan: to analyze the competition and to pinpoint the target marketing group. Doris Shehee instructed all participants to work together on their respective design plans. Doris Shehee decided that the design plans will be discussed at the next meeting, and that the next step will be to come up with a functional design of the device.	4	amisum	train
Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Hello everyone. Karen Plemons: Hi. Nancy Marquez: Hi. Jennifer Slater: Hi. Elizabeth Cole: Um how uh we doing Karen Plemons: Yeah, good. Elizabeth Cole: Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting, more or less. Jennifer Slater: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presented uh her method of working, meaning gathering i suggestions from everyone to see how she best could market uh this this product at the within the budget uh that was given. Uh in general the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use. Um it's also an item people lose So we should address that. And, of course, it should be something s s that is very simple to use. In addition to that to make it sell, of course, uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive, or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another so that the people are buying it now because, in particular with smaller items, that's a very important fact, 'cause um if they say, well, I go home and think about it, that won't work. Um also mentioned was it should be uh it should have a very short learning curve. And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan. Karen Plemons: Hmm. Elizabeth Cole: Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. Therefore, messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. There should be extra features like lid buttons, maybe a beep. If too many buttons are pressed, mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um you could see the time, you know, what show they want to watch. Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. So the components of the thing should be button, bulbs, infra infra-red bulbs, battery, chips, wires, and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item. Francino who is our um Jennifer Slater: Interface designer. Elizabeth Cole: interface designer um uh has mentioned that the that it, of course, should have an on-off button, and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature. And even possibly a timer to so that people can program their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote. Jennifer Slater: Yes. Elizabeth Cole: Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time? Karen Plemons: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: Yes Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Nancy Marquez: Yeah I think pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm Elizabeth Cole: Okay, then we I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh, I don't I don't think so, so whoever Jennifer Slater: Okay, Elizabeth Cole: w wants Jennifer Slater: I can start first. Elizabeth Cole: Yeah, okay. Jennifer Slater: Okay. Now my slide, Elizabeth Cole: Okay, Jennifer Slater: please. Elizabeth Cole: your slides. Okay. Oh, come on, close already. And that's number two, right? Jennifer Slater: Three. Elizabeth Cole: Three. Jennifer Slater: Participant three. Yes. Jennifer Slater: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Jennifer Slater: Now as an interface designer, I would give more emphasis on the interface, how the remote looks like so that it is sellable, it is attractive to customers. Next, please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch message or to next message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel, like you can have the numbers one, two, three, four, up to nine. Elizabeth Cole: Nine what? Nine channel uh switches? Jennifer Slater: Pardon Nancy Marquez? Elizabeth Cole: Nine channel switches? Is Jennifer Slater: Yes, Elizabeth Cole: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: nine Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: numbers. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: And then you have swapping of uh button Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: by which using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button, and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh Karen Plemons: Going Jennifer Slater: mm Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: to the nex Jennifer Slater: eh Karen Plemons: next. Jennifer Slater: scrolling the channels one Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: by one. Next slide, please. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: Then, there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example, if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English, Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the the subtitles on the screen. Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour, colour of the picture, the contrast, sharpness, brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call, and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_, but he he can reduce the sound, he can bring the volume down and he can watch he can uh while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers, you can record your own voice Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television, for example, if you want to see we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel, uh th now the the uh yeah, the remote Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: will automatically it will switch to the ninth channel. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features. Then, please, Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: next slide. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: Then, these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour, but they have many buttons. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple, and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah, so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: And this has multi-purpose use, it can be used for T_V_, it can be used for cable-satellite, it can be used for V_C_R_, D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser. Can you go on to the next slide? Yeah, now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: Uh this is user-friendly, it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours, different shapes. Karen Plemons: Mm. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons and all the important uh buttons are there in this small, compact, attractive child interface. Next slide, please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace. Nancy Marquez: You don't know Jennifer Slater: this. Nancy Marquez: Nancy Marquez. I could Jennifer Slater: So this Nancy Marquez: lose Jennifer Slater: is Nancy Marquez: that Jennifer Slater: No Nancy Marquez: in a minute. Jennifer Slater: this is a very big, you cannot misplace it anywhere. So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: This i this is one such interface which can be created. And the personal preference uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: uh function. Elizabeth Cole: Right. Jennifer Slater: Thank you, that's Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: Okay, thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation? Nancy Marquez: Well, um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there. Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Nancy Marquez: Um what uh I'm No suggestion's bad. Jennifer Slater: Mm yes. Nancy Marquez: But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh the too big to misplace, I think it's just funny. Um I Jennifer Slater: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: Yeah, I I th I think Nancy Marquez: don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter. Jennifer Slater: Okay. Nancy Marquez: It's it's gonna be a little bit Elizabeth Cole: No, Nancy Marquez: too Elizabeth Cole: I Nancy Marquez: unwieldy. Elizabeth Cole: think the these are her presentations, Nancy Marquez: Yeah Elizabeth Cole: but Nancy Marquez: mm. Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: uh as far as the decision making we getting Nancy Marquez: Have Elizabeth Cole: to Nancy Marquez: to Elizabeth Cole: that Nancy Marquez: come back Elizabeth Cole: after Nancy Marquez: to that Jennifer Slater: We Nancy Marquez: later. Jennifer Slater: can. Elizabeth Cole: after Nancy Marquez: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: but if I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her Nancy Marquez: No, Elizabeth Cole: presentation. Nancy Marquez: I think her presentation was good, and Elizabeth Cole: Mm right. Nancy Marquez: she really explored all the options. Yeah. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um? Karen Plemons: Yeah, maybe. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Okay, and you Karen Plemons: Participant two. Elizabeth Cole: Uh okay. Karen Plemons: Uh the next one, sorry. Elizabeth Cole: Oops. Karen Plemons: It's it was the old one. Components. Elizabeth Cole: The components design. Mm-hmm. Okay. Karen Plemons: Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: and the technical side of the remote controller design. Uh, can you go on to the Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: next slide, please. I have just brief uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction. Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit, battery, etcetera, etcetera, it's like Uh it can be a plastic one, hard plastic, so that it can be strong, even if you just uh uh, you know, if you if it falls down, then it doesn't break. So it should be strong. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: Uh and Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: uh, Nancy Marquez: Good point. Karen Plemons: yeah, and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours, blue, red, green, so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit. Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it you should we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside, it should it should uh be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh um equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery, capacitor. Can you Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: go on to the next slide, please? Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: Uh a diode, a transistor, a resonator, these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh, I would like to suggest one thing uh if we uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery, Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much. It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can If it is a rechargeable one, then uh people can use it for a long time, so in that way we can cut cut the cost, but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide, please. And how it works, how the remote controller works. When you press a button Elizabeth Cole: Go away. Karen Plemons: Thank you. Uh when you press a button, when you do that, you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button, and it will send some signals through the wires, and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button, number one you have pressed, then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed. It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button, every individual button, has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one, then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b that that button, and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now, that signal, that morse code, has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately, that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal, then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works. Jennifer Slater: It works. Karen Plemons: Can you go to the next slide, please. Yeah, I have few pictures. remote controller uh it's it's it this is a normal remote controller. Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: And to the next slide, please. And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: and few electronic components, like you can see a chip there Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: which is having eighteen pins, and also a capac uh a capacitor, three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm yeah, and di and a diode transistor. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: The electronic components uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d diode transistors an Yeah, di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: labelled Jennifer Slater: Mm Karen Plemons: uh Jennifer Slater: yes. Karen Plemons: chip Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Nancy Marquez: Yes. Karen Plemons: um. Uh you can also see the uh uh the green two green things are uh these are they are they are resistors, Jennifer Slater: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: and uh just beside that you can see a transistor, and a uh uh cylinder shape, uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh um resistors uh sorry, ther there is a diode. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: Can you go Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: go on to the next slide. So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually, uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper, because uh uh when you when you are building uh some circuits some um uh circuits and also wires, it's it's better to go for printing, because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing, nothing Jennifer Slater: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: like uh, you know, you don't need to use wires and all. It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board. Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board, and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons, like when you press a button, the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it Jennifer Slater: Transmit. Karen Plemons: will ch its ch se send a signal signals to the, yeah, um integrated circuit. Can you go to the next slide, please. Uh so this is these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh, round marks? Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: They Nancy Marquez: Yes. Karen Plemons: they are the circuits. Next, please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it, but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. Nancy Marquez: Okay. Karen Plemons: Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and Jennifer Slater: Okay. Karen Plemons: k uh uh uh full a complete chip. Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery, a more ingenious uh hard dynamo, um a kinetic provision of energy, more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery, uh or we can use solar sells. Nancy Marquez: Hmm, Karen Plemons: Uh. Nancy Marquez: that's interesting. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually, the cases and card flat that w we Jennifer Slater: Okay. Karen Plemons: see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller. Um. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Elizabeth Cole: And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end Karen Plemons: Yeah, Elizabeth Cole: of the meeting. Karen Plemons: maybe d uh I have just one more slide, I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic, rubber, wood, titanium, but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re or an advanced chip on the print, um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah, that's it. It's all for Nancy Marquez now, thank Elizabeth Cole: Okay, Karen Plemons: you. Elizabeth Cole: well thank you. Any particular comments by anybody? Nancy Marquez: Uh yeah, on the scroll and the push-button, um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button? Karen Plemons: No, no, no, th the the the scrolling wheels are different, like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls, Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: uh which which we used to do before ten ten years before, I think. Now, nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all. So I think Nancy Marquez: Um. Karen Plemons: it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons. Nancy Marquez: We'll just go for push Karen Plemons: Yeah Nancy Marquez: buttons Karen Plemons: uh yeah, Nancy Marquez: for Jennifer Slater: Push-buttons. Nancy Marquez: in Karen Plemons: push-buttons. Nancy Marquez: the interest Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: of cost. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision, and Nancy Marquez has to present her Nancy Marquez: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: her Nancy Marquez: Go right Elizabeth Cole: thing. Nancy Marquez: to my first my next slide. Elizabeth Cole: Uh okay. Nancy Marquez: Um alright, my method is uh I'm interested in what the competition is doing, and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition, so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that, I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have, and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that, you know, small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand. Jennifer Slater: 'Kay. Nancy Marquez: Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um, they want buttons whose functions are obvious, and they want um as few buttons as possible, and they don't care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute, it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead, I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um and our preference is, as far as I'm concerned, are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be look really great and it has to come out before the others, so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features, um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to li two things, I think, that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel, spongy feeling things, things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item. Jennifer Slater: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote. Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: And uh so what do we think on the concept of the remote? Nancy Marquez: You wanna try to come back to yours, and Jennifer Slater: Uh yes, Elizabeth Cole: Y Nancy Marquez: limit Jennifer Slater: I would Nancy Marquez: yours Jennifer Slater: like Nancy Marquez: a Jennifer Slater: to Nancy Marquez: bit? Jennifer Slater: include this feature which is called as voice recogniser. Nancy Marquez: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Nancy Marquez: So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned? Karen Plemons: Yeah, but w Nancy Marquez: Yeah h that could that Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: could Elizabeth Cole: I Nancy Marquez: that Elizabeth Cole: think Nancy Marquez: could Elizabeth Cole: that's Nancy Marquez: be our star feature. That that be really good, yeah, Karen Plemons: Yeah, Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Nancy Marquez: I agree Karen Plemons: but Nancy Marquez: with Karen Plemons: but Nancy Marquez: that. Karen Plemons: I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how how uh far it will work, because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems, Nancy Marquez: Distance Karen Plemons: issues. Nancy Marquez: problem? Karen Plemons: Yeah, it's not distance problem it it's Jennifer Slater: Mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: recognising a person's voice, like maybe different people will be having different voices, so Nancy Marquez: Uh. Karen Plemons: it like it's uh everything Elizabeth Cole: Well, Karen Plemons: so Elizabeth Cole: you you Karen Plemons: i Elizabeth Cole: teach You have to teach Karen Plemons: So Elizabeth Cole: uh Karen Plemons: to get a good recogni recognising Jennifer Slater: No, Karen Plemons: system, Jennifer Slater: it's Karen Plemons: it's Jennifer Slater: it's, Karen Plemons: a Jennifer Slater: uh yeah, Karen Plemons: costly Jennifer Slater: it Karen Plemons: thing, Jennifer Slater: it's Karen Plemons: I think. Jennifer Slater: like your recording of uh all uh um a question already, and then you're expecting an answer from th For example, you have a T_V_ system, I'm the user Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: and my family members are the user, I will already record Karen Plemons: Yeah, but Jennifer Slater: uh Karen Plemons: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: a question Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: like, uh good morning, like around eight o'clock I want to see the news Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: in the television. So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on. Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: It will recognise my voice Karen Plemons: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: and will switch Elizabeth Cole: Okay, Jennifer Slater: on. Elizabeth Cole: before we get too far off here um, the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee? Nancy Marquez: I Elizabeth Cole: Battery. Nancy Marquez: think I think battery, Elizabeth Cole: Battery. Jennifer Slater: Battery. Nancy Marquez: and I think we all agreed on that. That Jennifer Slater: Yes. Nancy Marquez: that's that's gonna Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: be most cost-effective Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: and the best thing. Elizabeth Cole: Okay then chip on print. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: Yep. Jennifer Slater: Yes. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. And the case. And I think we all agree on the case, we wanna have something uh maybe bright, colourful. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Nancy Marquez: Bright, colourful, Jennifer Slater: And compact. Karen Plemons: And also strong. Nancy Marquez: trendy trendy design, Karen Plemons: Trendy, Jennifer Slater: Trendy design Nancy Marquez: and strong. Karen Plemons: yeah. Jennifer Slater: and compact. Elizabeth Cole: Mm-hmm. Trendy design, compact and strong. Nancy Marquez: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Slater: Yes. Elizabeth Cole: User interface concept, uh interface type, supplements That will be your Karen Plemons: Uh. Elizabeth Cole: area I think, right, Jana. Karen Plemons: Um like the switches, like we use buttons for user interface. Jennifer Slater: Push-buttons. Elizabeth Cole: Put uh k Karen Plemons: Push-buttons. Elizabeth Cole: I guess uh for yeah. And Not sure what they mean Jennifer Slater: And Elizabeth Cole: by supplements. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: Supplements Nancy Marquez: Well, I think Jennifer Slater: like Nancy Marquez: that Jennifer Slater: different types of features buttons, Nancy Marquez: Yeah, Jennifer Slater: like can Nancy Marquez: or Jennifer Slater: have Elizabeth Cole: Oh, Jennifer Slater: a Elizabeth Cole: like Jennifer Slater: f mute button Nancy Marquez: or Jennifer Slater: or Nancy Marquez: like her speech Jennifer Slater: a Nancy Marquez: recognition Elizabeth Cole: Oh. Jennifer Slater: swapping Nancy Marquez: would also Jennifer Slater: button. Nancy Marquez: be a supplement. Her Elizabeth Cole: A what? Nancy Marquez: speech recognition Elizabeth Cole: Right, Nancy Marquez: feature Elizabeth Cole: right, Jennifer Slater: Recogniser. Nancy Marquez: would Elizabeth Cole: right, Nancy Marquez: be a supplement. Elizabeth Cole: mm-hmm. Karen Plemons: Mm yeah. Jennifer Slater: Yes. Nancy Marquez: Okay, so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible Karen Plemons: Hmm. Nancy Marquez: pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Nancy Marquez: that is. Karen Plemons: Yeah. Elizabeth Cole: Right. Jennifer Slater: Yes. Elizabeth Cole: Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes, and the uh I_D_ is to this is the individual actions to be taken until then, to have the look and feel design, and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to uh come up with the user interface design, Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: and Nancy Marquez with the product evaluation. Nancy Marquez: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: In this phase, the two of you, Jana and Francine, have to work together on a prototype Jennifer Slater: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: using modelling clay, it says here. You will receive Karen Plemons: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Cole: specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches. Jennifer Slater: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: Um if you have any questions, you know, you you can always uh contact Nancy Marquez um or uh or your coach, I suppose. Nancy Marquez: Wherever they're hiding? Elizabeth Cole: Um so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes, Karen Plemons: Yeah. Jennifer Slater: Okay. Elizabeth Cole: according to our timetable here. Thank you very much. Karen Plemons: Thank Jennifer Slater: Thank Karen Plemons: you. Jennifer Slater: you.	Elizabeth Cole opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting. The interface specialist begins her presentation by highlighting important remote functions and showing examples of remote interfaces. The group comments on her presentation, and then Karen Plemons begins presenting. She talks about the technical electronic components of the remote, explains how a remote works, and shows a few pictures revealing the insides of a normal remote control. She suggests giving the remote a strong shell so it is durable, using a rechargable battery, and not adding a scroll wheel because it requires a sophisticated chip. Nancy Marquez presents, talking about user preferences for a small, simple, eye-catching, cute, appealing, and functional remote. Fruit and vegetable shapes are popular this year, so a soft, spongy remote perhaps covered with cloth could make the item marketable. The group discusses the issues surrounding speech recognition, noting that if it is good quality it could be costly. They about the power source and review the objectives of the product. Elizabeth Cole closes the meeting by telling each member what task she is to complete.	4	amisum	train
Karen Ruiz: Well hi everyone again. Donna Halpin: Hello. Tatyana Chavez: Hello. Marie Namisnak: Hello Karen Ruiz: Um like before uh I have to redo the meetings from n th the minutes from the last meeting Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: and so here we go. Uh it was discussed in the last meeting uh which was opened by the presentation from the interface um Donna Halpin: Designer. Karen Ruiz: designer that uh looks would be very important on this new remote and um it is to send messages of course to the T_V_. It should have nine channel buttons, a button volume buttons buttons, switch to control features, colour contrast, sharpness etcetera. It should have a memory switch, a mute button in case the telephone rings or something. Uh speech recognition is one of her very f favourite personal uh features she would like see d d to be integrated in this um in this new remote. Um. Should be child friendly design with few buttons, colourful maybe with s star shaped or other shaped buttons. Um she uh presented also an oversized remote which she guarantees nobody will ever be able to lose. Um Marie Namisnak: And she was challenged on that point Karen Ruiz: that's right. Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: But uh her very f personal favourite really she, she would very much like to see a speech recogniser integrated in this remote. Tatyana Chavez um presented her uh thoughts on the issue. She would like a special case made out of plastic that is very strong, not using any harmful materials, should be recyclable and should be colourful. Should have an integrated circuit board that's highly sophisticated and temperature resistant. She would like to see a timer and or alarm facility integrated. Uh technically this thing would also have a resistor and a capacitor, diode transistor, resonator, and if possible a rechargeable battery. Uh and of course a circuit board. And how it would works, you press the button, the chip is morse morse code related relays the uh to the generat to the generator amplification and uh the circuit board is very inexpensive to build Marie Namisnak: Okay. Karen Ruiz: and so she thinks this is a great feature uh to to to consider. She would like uh this whole thing should be push buttons with a simple chip uh scrolling method is more expensive and not that practical anymore. Should be battery operated and of course she would have the special cases. Marie Namisnak uh who has to finally come up with to to to market this product has been watching the competition, has done some research on the internet and also has used h her personal observations to come up with the fact that such a remote sh should be small, easy to use and it should be eye catching. From her point of view of course one of the most important facts is that we should get to market before our competition does. To do that uh maybe one or two features should be developed on which we could dwell on or in other words on which our campaign could be built on. Too many new features or too many points would only confuse matter. So we prefer to have one or two features that can be really uh driven home. Um it should have a fruit and vegetable design and should have a soft feel. She feels that's really what people want today. And the decision that we took last time was that uh the special feature we would like to see is a speech recogniser, the energy should be battery uh should be on a chip, should be trendy design, compact and strong, and should have buttons. And that concludes the presentation from the last minutes from the last meeting. Now uh we are ready for the presentation of the prototype. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Donna Halpin: Yeah. Just the look like, the button part I'll explain. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. so this what uh we have made This is a model of the remote control which we are going to build. Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Uh this is us in a snail shape Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: so uh it it is attractive um and it's it's blue in colour Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: uh bright and uh it has yellow buttons and all the different colour buttons Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: so it is a uh uh a looks-wise it is beautiful. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Uh and also compact in shape. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Good. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, oops, sorry. Marie Namisnak: You used to have all the buttons Tatyana Chavez: Um yeah and um uh the material which we are going to use for the case is uh plastic and uh w which which is s strong um uh and also uh for the Um the material is plastic and uh for the buttons it is uh s soft rubber um and Marie Namisnak: Oh Tatyana Chavez: als Marie Namisnak: that's good, Tatyana Chavez: yeah. Marie Namisnak: no, that's nice and friendly. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah because uh uh you'll be touching the buttons Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: more so Marie Namisnak: Mm. Tatyana Chavez: it is soft when you Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm, Tatyana Chavez: touch Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: it. Karen Ruiz: mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: And then um uh for the for the led, for the light emitting diode it Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: is a fluorescent green and Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: it's a a it is a bulb like an ordinary infrared. And and the button button's part uh will be explained by F Francina. Donna Halpin: Okay. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Donna Halpin: Now the um we decided upon including certain features on our remote. Now these features includes the s um signal emitting uh signal it's the led Marie Namisnak: Yeah, Donna Halpin: or Marie Namisnak: okay, Donna Halpin: L_E_D_ Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm, Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: the infrared. Now uh we have included the switch on and off button. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Now we have included another feature that is the mute button Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: on the side of the model. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Then we have included one to nine buttons the programmes the different channels. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: We have also included two buttons for increasing or decreasing the volume. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: And we have also included two buttons for scrolling up and scrolling down the programme channels. Marie Namisnak: Mm. Donna Halpin: Now our our model also contains a button which is called as the menu button. Karen Ruiz: What kind of button? Donna Halpin: Menu button. Karen Ruiz: Menu? Uh menu Donna Halpin: Yes, Marie Namisnak: Menu Karen Ruiz: th menu, Donna Halpin: menu Marie Namisnak: button. Karen Ruiz: uh one one. Donna Halpin: At the centre Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: we have included a button which is fluorescent green colour and this is the menu button which will control the colour, sharpness, brightness Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Of the screen. Donna Halpin: of Marie Namisnak: Mm, Donna Halpin: this Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: uh picture. We have also included a button which is called as the swapping button. Now this is uh a special, special feature which we have included. Now this button is an elongated shaped button and this is slightly flexible so if it is turned towards the right it will take to the previous channel, if it is turned towards the right it will take to the next channel. It will take the user to the previous and the next channel so this is a swapping button. Marie Namisnak: The next channel in the numeric pattern, or Donna Halpin: No, swapping is if if example you're you're watching the second channel Marie Namisnak: Yeah, mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: and then you go to the tenth channel and if Marie Namisnak: Mm. Donna Halpin: you want to go back to the second channel you can swap, this button. Marie Namisnak: Okay, Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: okay. Donna Halpin: And at the end, it this remote has inbuilt voice recogniser which Karen Ruiz: Okay. Donna Halpin: c which will recognise the user's voice Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: and then it'll act accordingly. Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: So Marie Namisnak: Okay. Donna Halpin: this is our proposed model. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Now Marie Namisnak has to Tatyana Chavez: Tell, yeah. Donna Halpin: give her suggestion whether it'll be sellable or it'll be cost effective. Marie Namisnak: Okay, well um what what I really like a lot about it is that you can reach the whole thing with one thumb, Donna Halpin: Yes, Marie Namisnak: that Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: you can really hold it in Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: one h you don't need two hands and it's easily reachable even for somebody with a small hand, yeah? Karen Ruiz: Yes the buttons are all raised, right? Marie Namisnak: The buttons Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: are all raised Karen Ruiz: Are raised, Marie Namisnak: and Karen Ruiz: mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: if you hold it in the centre of your hand you can even reach it over here Karen Ruiz: Right. Marie Namisnak: so you don't have to turn it around, turn it upside down, Karen Ruiz: Or have two hands Marie Namisnak: move Karen Ruiz: to operate Marie Namisnak: it up, Karen Ruiz: it, Marie Namisnak: up Karen Ruiz: yeah. Marie Namisnak: and down, I really like that. You really Donna Halpin: Mm. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: did a good job on that, my little designers. Um and um I like the idea that the on-off button is in a really prominent place. That's that's a really good good Karen Ruiz: Yes, Marie Namisnak: thing. Karen Ruiz: and it sort of sticks up so Marie Namisnak: Yeah, Karen Ruiz: that Marie Namisnak: that's great. Karen Ruiz: you really you don't have to g Tatyana Chavez: Hmm. Karen Ruiz: first go like oh yeah Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: here Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: it's on Donna Halpin: Abs Karen Ruiz: and Donna Halpin: okay. Karen Ruiz: yeah, mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: The colour's very attractive. Um the um these buttons uh around here are the mute Donna Halpin: No, Marie Namisnak: and Donna Halpin: these the front buttons Marie Namisnak: these Donna Halpin: which are here, Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm Donna Halpin: are the mute buttons. Marie Namisnak: On both sides they're Donna Halpin: Yes, Marie Namisnak: mute? Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: So you can push either one? Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Karen Ruiz: So if you're left-handed or right-handed Marie Namisnak: And Karen Ruiz: it Marie Namisnak: this Karen Ruiz: doesn't Marie Namisnak: brings Karen Ruiz: matter. Marie Namisnak: the menu up on the screen? Donna Halpin: Pardon Marie Namisnak? Marie Namisnak: This brings Donna Halpin: This Marie Namisnak: the menu Donna Halpin: is the Marie Namisnak: up Donna Halpin: menu Marie Namisnak: on the Donna Halpin: yes, Marie Namisnak: screen Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: and the orange ones are Donna Halpin: A the the these these two are th to increase or decrease the volumes, Marie Namisnak: Okay. Donna Halpin: and these two are to uh scroll the programme channels. Marie Namisnak: F f okay. Right, Donna Halpin: Scroll Marie Namisnak: very good. Donna Halpin: up or scroll down the channels. Marie Namisnak: Uh it looks mm looks like something I can sell. Okay and now I'm supposed Karen Ruiz: Well, Marie Namisnak: to Karen Ruiz: I have one question Marie Namisnak: yeah. Karen Ruiz: uh will there be anything written on the buttons, like that people know, or they have to learn that from a piece of paper which button does what? Donna Halpin: Yes, Tatyana Chavez: Ah. Donna Halpin: it will have uh these Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Donna Halpin: buttons Tatyana Chavez: definitely. Donna Halpin: will have the numbers and all the rest of the buttons will have symbols. Karen Ruiz: Will have symbols Donna Halpin: Yes, Karen Ruiz: so that Marie Namisnak: Yeah. Donna Halpin: which Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: that Donna Halpin: can be easily Karen Ruiz: that Donna Halpin: recognised. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: the user really knows Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: you know Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: and doesn't have Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: to first Marie Namisnak: Good point Karen Ruiz: learn Marie Namisnak: because Karen Ruiz: it Marie Namisnak: we need Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: the symbols 'cause we're going Tatyana Chavez: Yeah Marie Namisnak: into Tatyana Chavez: of Marie Namisnak: an Tatyana Chavez: course, Marie Namisnak: international Tatyana Chavez: and Marie Namisnak: market Tatyana Chavez: also Marie Namisnak: we can't Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: have anything Tatyana Chavez: Hmm. Marie Namisnak: that's language Karen Ruiz: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: dependent. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: But Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: anyway it would ha i i i it Tatyana Chavez: Yeah Karen Ruiz: has Tatyana Chavez: we Karen Ruiz: to have some Tatyana Chavez: can Karen Ruiz: kind of of Marie Namisnak: Symbols Tatyana Chavez: Text. Marie Namisnak: on Karen Ruiz: symbols, Marie Namisnak: it. Mm-hmm, Karen Ruiz: text Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: or something Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Text Karen Ruiz: so that Tatyana Chavez: that Karen Ruiz: people Tatyana Chavez: we can Karen Ruiz: kn Tatyana Chavez: have on the case itself, we can Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: That's Tatyana Chavez: it Karen Ruiz: right. Tatyana Chavez: will Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: be printed on the case and Karen Ruiz: Okay, Tatyana Chavez: symbols Karen Ruiz: yeah Tatyana Chavez: as Karen Ruiz: just Tatyana Chavez: well Donna Halpin: And Karen Ruiz: wanted Tatyana Chavez: as Karen Ruiz: make Tatyana Chavez: the Karen Ruiz: sure Tatyana Chavez: buttons. Karen Ruiz: of Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: that mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: and one Marie Namisnak: Mm, Donna Halpin: more Marie Namisnak: 'kay, mm. Donna Halpin: feature is we we have a holder for this remote Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: which is an oyster shape. A shell shape. Marie Namisnak: For the snail, Karen Ruiz: Right, Marie Namisnak: yeah, Donna Halpin: Yes, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm, Karen Ruiz: mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: we have Tatyana Chavez: So Marie Namisnak: the snail Tatyana Chavez: it is Marie Namisnak: shell. Donna Halpin: Yes, Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: yeah, Donna Halpin: snail Marie Namisnak: He Donna Halpin: shell. Marie Namisnak: goes right back Tatyana Chavez: yeah Marie Namisnak: into his Tatyana Chavez: shell. Marie Namisnak: shell. Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: Right. Marie Namisnak: Well you know I think we could do something really funny with this too because the snail is known to be slow Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: and we could have some sort of little comic effect on our marketing Donna Halpin: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Marie Namisnak: about how this is a rapid snail Donna Halpin: Y Yes Marie Namisnak: or something Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: like that Tatyana Chavez: of Marie Namisnak: you know that Tatyana Chavez: course, Marie Namisnak: would, that would Tatyana Chavez: yeah. Marie Namisnak: really work. Karen Ruiz: Now what, Marie Namisnak: So Karen Ruiz: what are our special features for the marketing? That's really the voice recognition that's really unusual Marie Namisnak: I think voice recognition is our big selling point Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Marie Namisnak: 'cause Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: nobody else seems to have that Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Marie Namisnak: in in this price range. Karen Ruiz: And then, and then the other thing would basically be sh shape or practicality of use. Marie Namisnak: Yep uh Karen Ruiz: You Marie Namisnak: well Karen Ruiz: know. Marie Namisnak: I think that everybody's gonna say their remote control is practical. I think we have Karen Ruiz: Colours. Marie Namisnak: to, we have to dwell on on on the appearance. Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: We're really gonna have the be the Karen Ruiz: Cutest. Marie Namisnak: cutest remote control on the block. Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Karen Ruiz: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: So I think we have to play with the image, play with the snail image um play with the visual and then the voice recognition. I Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: think those are the two things to push. The look and the voice recognition. They're gonna be our two selling points. Karen Ruiz: Okay, now uh having said that Marie Namisnak: I'm supposed to make a little presentation, aren't I? Karen Ruiz: No, now this was our evaluation criteria which Marie Namisnak: Okay. Karen Ruiz: we uh just have done. Now we're gonna talk about financing. Marie Namisnak: Ah, but in my instructions I think it said I was supposed to go to the board and do something. No? Karen Ruiz: Well, there is a production evaluation. Is that you? Marie Namisnak: Yeah, that's Marie Namisnak. Karen Ruiz: But that's after the financing. Marie Namisnak: Oh, okay. Karen Ruiz: See? Marie Namisnak: Sorry, Karen Ruiz: Fi see? Marie Namisnak: sorry. Mm-mm. Karen Ruiz: Um. had looks and voice recognition. Okay now on the financing we bring up the mm there it is. Okay uh energy source we say that's battery, right? Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Marie Namisnak: That's right. Karen Ruiz: Okay, now. So we I guess we use one. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: What? T cell or chart you are trying to change is protected. Well, that's nice. She told Marie Namisnak I could just ch change it here and then it would It doesn't work. Hmm. Marie Namisnak: Can you just fill it in in the yellow boxes? Or Karen Ruiz: Oh, okay Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: yeah, okay, let's see. Okay, Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: one, okay. Oh go away. Um kinetic source so that's in the energy source that's all we need. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Uh electronics, simple chip on print? Is Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Karen Ruiz: that's Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: what we're using? Tatyana Chavez: yeah. Karen Ruiz: One of those? Come on. Okay, one. Uh regular chip on print. No. Tatyana Chavez: No. Karen Ruiz: That's all we need, the Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: one case, uncurved flat, single curved, double curved. Marie Namisnak: Well. Tatyana Chavez: This is a Donna Halpin: Single curve? Mm. Marie Namisnak: I guess it's double curved. Karen Ruiz: Double curved? One of those? Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Case materi s supplements. Plastic we said, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: right? Donna Halpin: Plastic. Karen Ruiz: Uh wood, rubber? Marie Namisnak: Rubber, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: because we're gonna have the soft buttons. Karen Ruiz: Uh but, yes but Tatyana Chavez: I think uh that is uh f for rubbers Karen Ruiz: That's Tatyana Chavez: that is Karen Ruiz: just Tatyana Chavez: uh yeah Karen Ruiz: for the case Tatyana Chavez: case Karen Ruiz: material, Tatyana Chavez: material. Donna Halpin: Is this for the Karen Ruiz: so Marie Namisnak: Oh Donna Halpin: case? Marie Namisnak: okay, Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: the mm-hmm, Karen Ruiz: special Marie Namisnak: mm' kay. Karen Ruiz: colours though, we having that, right? Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: And then we have to interface push buttons. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Scroll wheel, no. Integrated scroll wheel, L_C_ display? Marie Namisnak: No, Donna Halpin: No. Marie Namisnak: 'cause Karen Ruiz: Button. Marie Namisnak: we didn't put the clock in it after all, right? Karen Ruiz: No. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Uh, Donna Halpin: Speci Karen Ruiz: button supplement special colour? Donna Halpin: Yes Karen Ruiz: Special form? Donna Halpin: Yes Marie Namisnak: Yes. Donna Halpin: d we do have special form. Karen Ruiz: And special material, rubber, wood, yes. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Okay. Total seven point six whatever that means. Tatyana Chavez: Uh, I think that's the Karen Ruiz: That's Donna Halpin: One two Karen Ruiz: the Donna Halpin: three Karen Ruiz: price. Tatyana Chavez: price. Donna Halpin: four five six seven eight nine Tatyana Chavez: Maybe Karen Ruiz: Mm? Tatyana Chavez: it is it just n Karen Ruiz: Eight, eight point two. Donna Halpin: Nine Karen Ruiz: That's Donna Halpin: points, Karen Ruiz: hmm? Donna Halpin: okay, yes. Karen Ruiz: Eight point two, right? So, we looks like we are well within budget. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Okay. Karen Ruiz: Okay. I guess I should save this I suppose, huh? Marie Namisnak: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Oops. Karen Ruiz: Uh-huh huh huh. Donna Halpin: On the desktop. Karen Ruiz: I just tried that. My Tatyana Chavez: AMI. Karen Ruiz: documents, computer. My Tatyana Chavez: AMI Karen Ruiz: compu Tatyana Chavez: should for Karen Ruiz: Ah oh here it is, yes. Okay, fine. Save. Okay good, so that's the good news. We gonna be popular. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Um. So that uh I think financing was pretty simple. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Now we would like to have a presentation by Marie Namisnak on production evaluation. Marie Namisnak: Okay, I'll take my file down so you can bring it up. Marie Namisnak: 'Kay should be able to get it now. 'Kay, why don't you move just to the next slide right away. Karen Ruiz: You wanna go to the next slide? Marie Namisnak: Yeah right away. Karen Ruiz: Okay. Marie Namisnak: Okay, well uh obviously my method for uh s m the marketing of this thing is first to ask the big question, will it sell? And I think we should show this prototype to people from various age and socio-economic groups and see about any fine tuning Donna Halpin: Okay. Marie Namisnak: that maybe little things we Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: haven't thought of. We can't accept every suggestion of course, but maybe we just Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: need to get a few. And show the the prototype to consumer research groups, we don't s want somebody to suddenly come to us and tell us that this button is toxic and Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: you know some child will swallow it and then we won't sell any. Tatyana Chavez: Mm. Marie Namisnak: So we have to get some input from those people. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: And then after that we just have to go with our best intuition and you know we like it, we think it's good, we're gonna get behind it and sell it. Um, next slide please. Okay, now the things that I was thinking and th my wish list has really been realised in this prototype. I wanted the shape to be biomorphic, I didn't want anything with angles and all square, I wanted it to be comfy and roundy. The size is small, the colour's bright and warm which is what we wanted. We wanted the feel to be as soft as possible, we'll have the soft buttons Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: and the way this is shaped, even though it's gonna be hard plastic, it feels good in your hand so that's nice. And functionality I put last on my list because people aren't going to use it before they buy it. So paradoxically the other features, in other words, the look, the feel um and the shape, Donna Halpin: Fee Marie Namisnak: that's what people are Donna Halpin: selling. Marie Namisnak: gonna get in the store. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: They don't have a television in the store, they can't play with it. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Um so they'll be our main selling points. So um th those have been fulfilled by your prototype and go ahead to the next slide please. Okay, so um the shape um I think is a a one. That's really, really excellent shape. The size is small um and th these points are in the importance for the, for the marketing, these aren't i in how I feel. I think that it's I think that it's plenty small enough to sell but I think we're sort of right the scale is one to seven. I think we're sort of right in the middle as far Donna Halpin: Okay. Marie Namisnak: as c other competitors. And our colour I think is great. The colours are bright and warm and we really do great job there. And given um the constraints that we had I think we got it as soft as possible. And then functionality um I think you did a really good job on functionality, obviously we could have ad added different functions but then we'd disturb something else so I would say that we got to a five out of seven on on functionality. So Donna Halpin: Okay. Marie Namisnak: I think Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: that basically we've got a great product and we can get off and running with it. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Um I just realised one thing. Marie Namisnak: Yes. Karen Ruiz: In the financing there was no room for our voice recogniser. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Ah. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: And uh I don't know how we can evaluate that or how we can include that, too. Marie Namisnak: Well, um we had what, eight eight euros twenty as our cost? Karen Ruiz: Eight, eight twenty, yes. Tatyana Chavez: Eight twenty Marie Namisnak: And Tatyana Chavez: so Marie Namisnak: so we've got Tatyana Chavez: We Marie Namisnak: we've Tatyana Chavez: have Marie Namisnak: still Tatyana Chavez: um Marie Namisnak: got four euros Tatyana Chavez: four Marie Namisnak: to go Tatyana Chavez: euros, yeah Marie Namisnak: to spend. Karen Ruiz: I mean maximum we have another four point three euros Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: I mean four thirty. Marie Namisnak: Well um that's Karen Ruiz: But I mean we have no way of presenting that to management as you know as a f finished, as a finished product and saying okay with the voice recogniser that costs so much. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: So um we just have to beware of that. I mean Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: and know whether the four thirty will really cover that. Marie Namisnak: Well Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: as we know in today's technic technological world you can do just about anything at any price, the the the problem is quality. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: So we're just gonna have to settle for whatever quality Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: that will buy Donna Halpin: Yes, Marie Namisnak: us. Tatyana Chavez: yeah. Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: And um it may not be the greatest quality but it may sell anyway. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Karen Ruiz: Yeah. Tatyana Chavez: still. Marie Namisnak: As we've seen with so Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: many of these kinds of products. Karen Ruiz: I'm sorry to interrupt then but I just uh recog I just remembered that there was no that that was not um included Tatyana Chavez: Included, yeah. Karen Ruiz: uh that there was no room for any Tatyana Chavez: Hmm, Karen Ruiz: special features, Tatyana Chavez: hmm Donna Halpin: Yeah mm. Karen Ruiz: okay? So to beware of that. You wanna go to this next slide, marketing Marie Namisnak: Uh, Karen Ruiz: expert? Marie Namisnak: well I isn't this my last slide? Maybe. Karen Ruiz: I dunno. Marie Namisnak: Go ahead. Karen Ruiz: Yes Marie Namisnak: I think Karen Ruiz: it Marie Namisnak: that Karen Ruiz: is. Marie Namisnak: was my last slide, yeah. Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: Um. Mm okay. And I'm supposed to present this scale on the whiteboard. Um and we're supposed to talk about those things as a team now, so if you put my last slide back up there. Karen Ruiz: Oh. Marie Namisnak: I'm sorry I've um forgot to do that, um. Karen Ruiz: Why? Wh why you need that up? Marie Namisnak: Hmm? Well because I can't remember what I put on there. Okay. Now I'm supposed to see how long my leash is here. Karen Ruiz: I think you can make it there. Marie Namisnak: Mm 'kay. You ready. So now we're all supposed to say what we think. Um okay so on shape I gave it a one. Wait what would you ra uh one being good and seven being the worst. Donna Halpin: Worse, okay. Marie Namisnak: Um what do you think the shape is? Donna Halpin: One. Marie Namisnak: One, okay, and Be Betsy? Karen Ruiz: Yes I think uh shape is one. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: Okay, uh-huh Tatyana Chavez: even my yeah, shape Marie Namisnak: one, Tatyana Chavez: is one. Marie Namisnak: okay. And how about on size? On size Karen Ruiz: You you gave it a four. Marie Namisnak: I gave it a four, yeah, I feel it's just average. Karen Ruiz: Um, I dunno. I think I would give it at least a two. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Donna Halpin: One. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, even I think it is one. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Tatyana Chavez: It's quite small. Marie Namisnak: Okay you're the designer, of course you wanna give it a one. Um and then how about how we doing on colour? Karen Ruiz: Colour uh I Marie Namisnak: Colour, I gave it a one. Karen Ruiz: One. Marie Namisnak: I really like all those nice bright, warm Karen Ruiz: I Marie Namisnak: colours. Karen Ruiz: I like the colours. Donna Halpin: One. Karen Ruiz: One. Marie Namisnak: One. Donna Halpin: Yes. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, one. Marie Namisnak: One, one, one, okay. And how about the feel? Taking into um consideration texture and comfort in the hand. Karen Ruiz: Uh, I think I would give it a two. Marie Namisnak: Okay, I gave it a three, two, Donna Halpin: I'll Marie Namisnak: yeah? Donna Halpin: give three. Marie Namisnak: Three. Tatyana Chavez: Uh maybe two, Marie Namisnak: Two, okay. Tatyana Chavez: yeah. Marie Namisnak: And the next is functionality where I I admit I was a little hard on our team here, but Karen Ruiz: Well it's also you can't really try it out uh Marie Namisnak: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: the other things you have have more is are more tangible so Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: from that point of view but um I'll give it a three. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Donna Halpin: Two. Marie Namisnak: Two, okay. Tatyana Chavez: Uh three, Marie Namisnak: Three? Tatyana Chavez: mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Well, um. It looks like we've got got ourselves a pretty good product. Um the functionality's the only place where maybe we have to think about m m maybe, heaven forbid, having another meeting. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: But um otherwise I think we're we're ready to go to go with this product. Anybody else have any other comments or any other things that we feel we should evaluate? Karen Ruiz: Uh. Here is what we looking at uh satisfaction on for example room for creativity. Um. Is there more room for creativity or are we absolutely happy? Tatyana Chavez: Maybe Donna Halpin: We can Tatyana Chavez: we can Donna Halpin: always improve, yes. Tatyana Chavez: yeah, include some more buttons and Donna Halpin: Yes, Tatyana Chavez: uh Donna Halpin: features. Tatyana Chavez: um yeah features. We can make the buttons few buttons smaller. Uh I think they are quite big, so I think I I mean we can just have small buttons and more buttons in that case. If we want to have more features than that. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Well then again if we're gonna um do the speech recognition thing Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: we're gon there gonna be some buttons that are gonna have to be added Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: for that Tatyana Chavez: definitely. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: for the recording of the the speech. Donna Halpin: Voices. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: So that that's where we're gonna have to do maybe we can eliminate one of the mute buttons, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, definitely, Marie Namisnak: instead Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: of having two mute Tatyana Chavez: yeah, Marie Namisnak: buttons. Tatyana Chavez: two mu mute Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: And Tatyana Chavez: buttons. Marie Namisnak: um then maybe we can do something with the um the volume control. Maybe we can put that all on one button. Tatyana Chavez: Hmm. Marie Namisnak: Um and a couple of other th maybe comp uh consolidate some of the usage an and see what we can do with that. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Y um al Donna Halpin: And Karen Ruiz: always Donna Halpin: maybe Karen Ruiz: bearing in mind that right now we are of course well within the budget Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: and that we still you know we probably can't, with this particular item, we probably can't just uh add a whole lot of more things. Marie Namisnak: No. Karen Ruiz: Uh Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: um we need uh you know we need to leave space money-wise Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: for the voice recogniser. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Donna Halpin: Yes. Karen Ruiz: Um. Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: So th the question really is how do we feel with the project process? Uh, um are we happy with the creativity that has passed here or we're not happy with the new product we created or that was created? Uh I think personally I think uh I'm pretty happy. Marie Namisnak: I'm pretty happy with Tatyana Chavez: Even Marie Namisnak: it Karen Ruiz: Um Marie Namisnak: too, Tatyana Chavez: I'm Marie Namisnak: yeah Tatyana Chavez: happy. Marie Namisnak: um, it's Karen Ruiz: an Marie Namisnak: something I think I can market. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Marie Namisnak: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: and then the next question is are we happy with the leadership of this project? Uh Marie Namisnak: I think you've done a good job, Miss Donna Halpin: Yes, Marie Namisnak: leader. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Donna Halpin: yes you've Tatyana Chavez: yeah, Donna Halpin: done Tatyana Chavez: definitely. Karen Ruiz: And Donna Halpin: a good job. Karen Ruiz: I think team work I think was very very good, Marie Namisnak: Yeah Karen Ruiz: I Marie Namisnak: I Karen Ruiz: think Marie Namisnak: d Tatyana Chavez: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: I Karen Ruiz: we Marie Namisnak: do Karen Ruiz: really Marie Namisnak: too I think we Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: yeah. Marie Namisnak: worked well together as a team, yeah. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: And uh I think we are we happy with the means we used? We used whiteboard, we didn't use digital p well digital pens I guess are these things. Marie Namisnak: Yeah maybe we could've used the whiteboard Donna Halpin: Whiteboard Marie Namisnak: a little Donna Halpin: more, Marie Namisnak: bit more, Donna Halpin: yes, Marie Namisnak: yeah, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: we Tatyana Chavez: probably. Marie Namisnak: didn't use Karen Ruiz: Yes, Marie Namisnak: that Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: enough. Karen Ruiz: we could. Uh, it's maybe not in the best position in the room um you know like sometimes it's positioned so that it's much better visible for everybody Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: and I think from that point of view we sort of ignored it a little bit. Marie Namisnak: And we Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: used the slide because it was better positioned. Karen Ruiz: Yes, Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: I think so, Donna Halpin: No. Karen Ruiz: I think Marie Namisnak: Mm Karen Ruiz: absolutely, Marie Namisnak: I think that's true Karen Ruiz: and Marie Namisnak: mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: fortunately we all had slides presentation which made it a little easier. Tatyana Chavez: Hmm. Donna Halpin: Yes. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Um did we new did we find new ideas? I think we did. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah, Marie Namisnak: I think we were Tatyana Chavez: many. Marie Namisnak: we were very good, Karen Ruiz: I Marie Namisnak: yeah, Karen Ruiz: think Marie Namisnak: mm. Karen Ruiz: we we did, uh in more than one respect Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: and uh so I think we did very well here. Marie Namisnak: Okay. Karen Ruiz: Are the costs within budget? Yes, yes. Uh is the project evaluated? Marie Namisnak: Yes, yes. Karen Ruiz: Yes. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: Um Marie Namisnak: Celebration. Karen Ruiz: then celebration. Donna Halpin: Cel celebration yes, Tatyana Chavez: Ah. Donna Halpin: yes. Marie Namisnak: Today we have apple juice and after we sell m million of 'em we have champagne. Karen Ruiz: So I I thank you all very much. Um, I think this was very good Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: and Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: um I think we did come up with a new product that's uh feasible. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: Feasible from the production point of view and feasible from a marketing point of view. Marie Namisnak: Mm-hmm. Karen Ruiz: So, Marie Namisnak: Okay. Tatyana Chavez: Yeah. Karen Ruiz: thank you. Donna Halpin: Thank Tatyana Chavez: Thank you Donna Halpin: you. Tatyana Chavez: very Marie Namisnak: Okay. Tatyana Chavez: much. Marie Namisnak: Watch I I have my cord behind you Donna Halpin: Okay. Marie Namisnak: here. Okay. Karen Ruiz: I always get it on here, but getting it off is Tatyana Chavez: Do we do we have some time left? Uh you have Donna Halpin: They say it's forty minutes. Karen Ruiz: Ah yes Marie Namisnak: But Karen Ruiz: we have time later but we don't Marie Namisnak: we we were told we could end the final meeting at any time, Donna Halpin: Okay. Tatyana Chavez: Oh, alright. Marie Namisnak: whenever we felt we were finished. It'll take Marie Namisnak the rest of the time to get my microphone out from my necklace. Oh, there we go.	Karen Ruiz opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting, detailing the main points of each person's presentation. They do the prototype presentation which includes a model of the remote control. The group discusses this proposed model, approving of the small size and look of it. They goes over finances and are pleased to find that they are well within budget. However, while Marie Namisnak is doing the product evaulation the group realizes that they neglected to calculate voice recognition into the financing. Their cost had been 8.20 Euros and they have 4.30 left to cover it, so they decide to settle for whatever quality it will buy. They rate their product on its shape, size, color, feel, and functionality. They discuss the project process, talk briefly about adding more features, and one member suggests eliminating a mute buttons and include a diffferent feature. They are happy with the creativity, leadership, and teamwork within the group, and close the meeting by thanking one another.	4	amisum	train
Charlotte Mcdonald: So uh good morning. Catherine Nelson: Morning. Mary Matsumoto: Morning. Erica Deleon: Morning. Charlotte Mcdonald: I see you all find places. Is everybody Mary Matsumoto: Yep. Charlotte Mcdonald: sitting on the right place? Yeah? I guess so. So Let's see. First I will introduce myself. I don't know if uh if everybody knows Mary Matsumoto, so I'm Mary Matsumoto: My Charlotte Mcdonald: Bart, Mary Matsumoto: name's Frank. Charlotte Mcdonald: hello. Hello. Catherine Nelson: I'm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Bart. Hello. Hello. Bart. Welcome. Mary Matsumoto: Thank you Charlotte Mcdonald: Uh let's see. Uh let's start off um with a little presentation. Uh Now first I'll tell you a little bit about the setting. You can see are cameras here. They'll record uh our actions and you'll have wires and microphones that will record your voice. Uh there are also some microphones there but th um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those, because it will uh disappear when you don't attend to it. So is there a project documents folder? There are some notes in it already I see, some documents. Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off. Is being modified by the administrator. Uh okay. Mary Matsumoto: Hmm, Charlotte Mcdonald: Let's do it read Mary Matsumoto: that's Charlotte Mcdonald: only. Mary Matsumoto: interesting. Charlotte Mcdonald: Well I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're working for Real Reaction. Uh it's a company in uh electronics. We put fashion in electronics, uh we make it work, uh we put a lot of effort in design and in the product itself. I'm Bart Charlotte Mcdonald so I'll direct you through the project. This is our agenda. Uh we have our opening acquaintance, tool training, project plan description closing. Uh maybe I can sit down, then I can take some notes or Let's see. Maybe you can take the minutes once in a while. Mary Matsumoto: Sure. Charlotte Mcdonald: I dunno it's not a lot of work, but just uh if you hear something uh you can write down, just write it down. Uh as you can see uh it's the opening, aquaintance tool training. Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit. Um have you all seen the corporate website already? Mary Matsumoto: Yep. Catherine Nelson: Yep. Mary Matsumoto: Visit Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah. Mary Matsumoto: it. Charlotte Mcdonald: Have you seen any flaws in it? I think I found one. No? Catherine Nelson: Hmm? Mary Matsumoto: Can't say I paid much attention to it, Charlotte Mcdonald: I can see if it works this way. No, it doesn't work here. Okay no problem. But um on the corporate information side there's a th uh there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction. Mary Matsumoto: Oh yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: Real Remote is not really the company we're we are, but Catherine Nelson: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: it's just a little Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: fault. Um okay, what are we going to do? Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy, and user friendly. So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you. We've Mary Matsumoto: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: got Mary Matsumoto for uh the trendy and user friendly look. And Industrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original. And we've got our User Interface Designer. Catherine Nelson: Yep. Charlotte Mcdonald: He's also uh That's about the new remote control. Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through. First is functional des uh design, individual work, meetings. After the functional design, then the conceptual design and the detailed design. I had some role indications on here. But I think you know it already by yourself. Erica Deleon is going to work on the working design, uh components design and a bit of the look and feel design. Uh Catherine Nelson is going to do the technical function design, user interface concept and user interface design. And Mary Matsumoto is doing a little bit of user requirement specification, trend watching and project uh product ev evaluation. So that's a bit what you're going to do. But that will be all worked out in uh other meetings. Then we've got our first tool training. We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here, so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit of training first. As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board. Um in the white board here there's a little tool bar on this side. Here are some functions. You can save. N uh these functions we don't have anything to do with, only undo, you can undo a little uh piece of drawing. A blank new document for each person. Uh select a pen, eraser. Capture we don't have to do anything with. Uh then we've got our pen. This pen. It's really Mary Matsumoto: 'Kay. Charlotte Mcdonald: funny because you can draw with it on this page um in the think it is form of. You can also select the current colour and the line width. Catherine Nelson: Hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: But then first you have to select the pen function. But we're going to work with it in a minute. So okay. Uh that's very simple and it's easy to uh draw your findings and drawings on there. Uh then a short thing about documents. We've got our shared folder, project project what was it? Project documents I think. But all you will found that already because there are a lot of documents in it already, so it will be okay. And these are available on the smart boards as well, Catherine Nelson: Okay. Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: Here is a simple tool bar. It's what I just said, it's save, print, move back or forward one page. You can switch between the different drawings. And then we're going to try out the white board. So as you can see we g all going to draw a animal. Just to uh uh just to get a bit familiar with it. Mouse wasn't running away. Mary Matsumoto: That was interesting. Charlotte Mcdonald: Is everybody is anybody playing with the mouse? No. Okay. Mary Matsumoto: Innocent. Charlotte Mcdonald: We're going to uh draw animal. And uh just sum up a few of its favourite characteristics. Um the only thing we have to uh look after is that we use different colours, and different line width. Uh there's I can start from now. I will. You can use this pen by holding it like a like a little child. Because if you hold it like this, the sensors will get blocked and then the Catherine Nelson: Okay. Mary Matsumoto: 'Kay. Charlotte Mcdonald: drawing won't get good. Another thing is you have to be uh a bit slow. 'Cause if you're going to draw like really fast then um the pen won't hold up. So we choose form of current colour uh I think grey is appropriate. Then the line width. I think seven will be nice. Now you'll see my drawing capabilities. These are not very much, but uh Uh, see you have to do it real slow. Charlotte Mcdonald: Oh Catherine Nelson: Sure. Charlotte Mcdonald: Ah I was trying to draw a dolphin, but I think his nose has to be a little bit But it's close. Mary Matsumoto: I'm thinking about a swordfish. Charlotte Mcdonald: So what Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: yeah it's Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: this is bit of the swordfish. Yeah, he hasn't got an eye. Erica Deleon: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Woah. Now we've got another function. We've got the eraser. And then you can undo this easily. Mary Matsumoto: Meat. Charlotte Mcdonald: Ah it's okay. And I've got to write down a few of its characteristics. Uh is They've got no text tool, no. Uh. Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay. This is typically a undo action, I think. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: Pen. Maybe you have to hold it a bit upside-down. I think that's it because if you wan ar are going to do it like this then it will be a stripe. But I don't know, I'm just trying. This is not my work, okay. Mary Matsumoto: Hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Maybe you have to use Charlotte Mcdonald: Oh. Charlotte Mcdonald: Uh. I think it's a it wants to draw a another animal? I don't know. It lives for the fun. So It's my characteristic uh characteristic about the dolphin. It lives for the fun. Mary Matsumoto: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: So Catherine Nelson: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: now I'm gonna hand over the pen on the new blank sheet to you. Go Mary Matsumoto: Thank Charlotte Mcdonald: ahead. Mary Matsumoto: you. Okay. Gonna use a different line width. Mary Matsumoto: There. 'Kay, I'm not much of an artist, but here we go. Charlotte Mcdonald: Maybe it's easier to draw the smaller line width, I think. Catherine Nelson: Hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Because this is going a lot better than uh I did. Catherine Nelson: A sheep. Mary Matsumoto: Mm. Mary Matsumoto: Okay. This is my um Hmm. Sheep. Charlotte Mcdonald: It's nice. Mary Matsumoto: With of course Mary Matsumoto: little Charlotte Mcdonald: Uh. Mary Matsumoto: blue dot they always get sprayed on their butts. Charlotte Mcdonald: It's Mary Matsumoto: There. Charlotte Mcdonald: a real dead sheep, yeah. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: For recognition, yeah, I see. Um maybe you can Mary Matsumoto: 'Kay. Charlotte Mcdonald: also write your name somewhere. On just a Mary Matsumoto: They are Come on. Mary Matsumoto: You have to go really slow when you're writing. Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah. Mary Matsumoto: They're brilliant animal animals. And that's just a little Mary Matsumoto thingy. So. Guess I'll pass the pen to our Catherine Nelson: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: Nice. Mary Matsumoto: User Interface Designer. Catherine Nelson: Um I'm just gonna draw its uh head, but mm Let's see. Mm. Catherine Nelson: Uh. Catherine Nelson: Okay. Mary Matsumoto: Interesting. Charlotte Mcdonald: Sweet. Catherine Nelson: Yeah. You know what that is? Or who? Mary Matsumoto: A rabbit? Erica Deleon: Garfield. Catherine Nelson: Ah okay, Mary Matsumoto: Garfield. Catherine Nelson: yeah. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Catherine Nelson: Just a Catherine Nelson: So uh Yeah. That's enough. Um, you say a blank, or Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah, just a blank Catherine Nelson: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: sheet. Erica Deleon: Well I was gonna draw a cat too, so. I'll just try something else. Charlotte Mcdonald: No. Erica Deleon: Something different than Garfield. Erica Deleon: Mine is a bit more skinny. Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah, it's Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: pretty skinny cat. Erica Deleon: But uh Mary Matsumoto: And the most interesting tail. Charlotte Mcdonald: Is your cat, or did you find him on the street? Erica Deleon: Well, it's supposed to be a cat. I like cats because uh they are uh independent. Charlotte Mcdonald: Ah. Erica Deleon: The pen. So. Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay. That's pretty clear. So everybody knows how to work with the white board now? So Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: if you have any ideas or if you wanna Erica Deleon: The Charlotte Mcdonald: draw Erica Deleon: pen. Charlotte Mcdonald: anything on the white board, just ask and go ahead. It's pretty uh easy. 'Kay. S Mary Matsumoto: We're being haunted. Charlotte Mcdonald: haunted white board. So we've got the tool uh introduction. We move along to the project finance. Um as you can see, we um for our remote control, a selling price is uh twenty five Euros. Our selling price. Uh our profit aim is fifty million Euros. Uh that's the least we have to get from our remote controls, so we have to work together to reach our aims. Uh we can do it international, so we have to focus on different kind of users, different kind of cultures, and different kind of trends as well. Um but that's all in the later stadium. Our production cost um can be maximal twelve and a half Euros, so that's also a point we have to keep in mind, that we won't make remote controls with small televisions inside, and stuff like that. It won't work. So just try to remember these points. Selling price twenty five, profit aims fifty million um, but more important is the int international market we're trying to focus on. And production cost uh maximal twelve and a half Euros. So that's leads us to our little discussion. We've got about five or ten minutes left for discussion. So I'm gonna sit down, I think. It's easier. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah, you got a message. Charlotte Mcdonald: I've got a message. Five minutes. Catherine Nelson: Five Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay, Catherine Nelson: minutes, okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: that's uh good timing. Mary Matsumoto: So just on a side note, why is it my laptop is only giving Mary Matsumoto a black screen? Catherine Nelson: Mm? Charlotte Mcdonald: Uh maybe you have to say the magic word. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Right. Charlotte Mcdonald: Does it do anything? Mary Matsumoto: No. Charlotte Mcdonald: Maybe you have to just clap it down? Mm back up again. No slide show. Hmm. Mary Matsumoto: It's off now. Charlotte Mcdonald: It's off. Now you have to put it back o Oh yeah. You'll be okay, I think. Mary Matsumoto: Well, it was on, but Charlotte Mcdonald: Well it's those laptops. Mary Matsumoto: Ah, there we are. Charlotte Mcdonald: Nice. Okay. But so mm does everybody has um experiences with uh remote controls, and I mean not the ordinary mote controls, but also a little bit different ones? Catherine Nelson: Mm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Like you can use for other? Catherine Nelson: Oh really? Charlotte Mcdonald: No? Catherine Nelson: Huh. Charlotte Mcdonald: You? Mary Matsumoto: Well, we Erica Deleon: No, Catherine Nelson: It's Mary Matsumoto: have Erica Deleon: Mary Matsumoto Mary Matsumoto: a Erica Deleon: neither. Catherine Nelson: a Mary Matsumoto: kind of broad T_V_ at home, and a D_V_D_ player, so we got like a lot of remote controls, one for the T_V_, one for the video recorder, one for the D_V_D_ player. Charlotte Mcdonald: Ah yeah. Mary Matsumoto: And I think it's it would be best to just make one remote control that can operate them all. Charlotte Mcdonald: Yep. Catherine Nelson: Sure. Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah I've Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: I've got one at home. And you can uh program I think eight different devices in it, and you can use it for your television, Catherine Nelson: Okay, yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: anything else. Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: And it also operates on infra-red, so you have to got the little device inside your room, and then you can operate it from the third or th or Catherine Nelson: Okay, Charlotte Mcdonald: second Catherine Nelson: yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: floor. Mary Matsumoto: Oh really. Charlotte Mcdonald: So Catherine Nelson: Hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: that's pretty handy when you have a video recorder or D_V_D_ player downstairs and Catherine Nelson: Oh. Charlotte Mcdonald: you've got a link to your T_V_ on the second floor. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Catherine Nelson: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: So that's a pretty handy um thing. Um but only the I think that if you can put different kind of devices in one remote control, it makes it a lot easier as well. It's Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: uh Catherine Nelson: Oh. Charlotte Mcdonald: That's good to remember. Mary Matsumoto: So I think you can take minutes again. Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah, that's nice, I think. Mary Matsumoto: Since it's your job. Charlotte Mcdonald: So we've we want different functions Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: uh and we can maybe see if we can do something with the infra-red. But I don't know if that will exceed the production costs. So that Catherine Nelson: Mm. Charlotte Mcdonald: uh that's something we have to find out, I think. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah. But that would be really good if we could do that. Charlotte Mcdonald: And other functions for a remote control? Maybe we can make Mary Matsumoto: Um. Charlotte Mcdonald: it Catherine Nelson: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Mcdonald: uh uh Mary Matsumoto: Think it has to be shock proof Catherine Nelson: Sure, yeah. Mary Matsumoto: 'cause Charlotte Mcdonald: Shock proof. Mary Matsumoto: my remote control tends to Catherine Nelson: Waterproof, Mary Matsumoto: fall a lot. Catherine Nelson: or uh Mary Matsumoto: So Catherine Nelson: Uh, Charlotte Mcdonald: Sure. Catherine Nelson: you never no know uh, I w I mean uh Charlotte Mcdonald: Waterproof. Okay. So these are our um a few things we can think of. Um I will put the minutes from this meeting uh in our project folder. Catherine Nelson: 'Kay. Mary Matsumoto: Yeah, one other little thing. Thought it might be handy to put a battery status display on it. So Charlotte Mcdonald: That's Mary Matsumoto: you can Charlotte Mcdonald: a Mary Matsumoto: see Charlotte Mcdonald: battery stays. Catherine Nelson: Okay, yeah. Mary Matsumoto: how much is left in the battery. But they'll also really drag up the production costs, so Charlotte Mcdonald: Yeah. Mary Matsumoto: think we'll have to see about that too. Catherine Nelson: Mm. Charlotte Mcdonald: Uh. Mary Matsumoto: But maybe just a little LED, I don't know. Charlotte Mcdonald: That's an idea as well. Other ideas? Quick ideas. Erica Deleon: Nope. They were all Catherine Nelson: Mm. Erica Deleon: mentioned, so Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay. Catherine Nelson: Yeah. Charlotte Mcdonald: Any questions about this uh presentation? Kick off presentation. Mary Matsumoto: Um. Nope, don't think so. Charlotte Mcdonald: No? Okay, then I'll put the minutes from this meeting in the project folder, and then we can all work. Finish meeting now. Mary Matsumoto: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay. And Mary Matsumoto: Aye Charlotte Mcdonald: we Mary Matsumoto: sir. Charlotte Mcdonald: can all work uh on our own projects. Charlotte Mcdonald: Okay then I'll meet you in about a Mary Matsumoto: Half an Charlotte Mcdonald: half Mary Matsumoto: hour. Charlotte Mcdonald: an hour, I think. Erica Deleon: Okay. Catherine Nelson: Okay. Mary Matsumoto: Okay. Charlotte Mcdonald: So good luck. Catherine Nelson: Yep.	Charlotte Mcdonald introduced himself to the team and then acquainted the team with the audio and video equipment in the meeting room. Charlotte Mcdonald briefly described the company the team works for and discussed the corporate website. Charlotte Mcdonald then described the upcoming project and the roles of each team member. Charlotte Mcdonald introduced the smart boards to the team and led the team members in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and described why they liked the animal. Charlotte Mcdonald briefed the team on the project budget and selling prices for the remote they are to create and led them in a discussion on their experiences with remote controls and what features they would like to include in their product.	4	amisum	train
Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Everybody found his place again? Yeah Philomena Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: That's? nice. Okay so this is our second meeting. And uh still failing? Philomena Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh now we're going um into the functional design. Um important thing of this phase is that we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements, technical function design, and the working design. So that we can move onto the second uh phase. But first this phase. Um first an announcement. There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system. There's our ghost mouse again. That that means that you can have a little trouble with, little trouble with the air conditioning, that's because of this uh Erin Long: Okay. Philomena Smith: Okay. Catherine Zuchowski: It's in wing C_ and E_. So it should be over in a in a while, couple of days. But it's going to be cold anyway, so I don't think you're gonna need it. Philomena Smith: No. Catherine Zuchowski: Then our agenda. Now first the opening. Uh this time I will take the minutes. Uh you're going to have a presentation. All of you. Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the whole uh presentations. So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation, and then we can have a little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to Philomena Smith. And then the decision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include. So we've got forty minutes for all of it. So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation. Philomena Smith: Yes Catherine Zuchowski: Um who wants to be first? Philomena Smith: Think I'll go first. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. So Just maybe it's easier if you um Yeah I think you will tell your presentation as well. Just which function you have and what you're gonna talk about. Philomena Smith: 'Kay. My name is Freek Van Ponnen. I'm the Market Expert. But you already knew that. Um I've done some research. We have we uh have been doing research in a usability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls. Uh we let them fill out a questionnaire. We had one hundred of these uh test subjects. Uh in we did research. Uh see what market consists of ages are involved. Well these are three quite astonishing results, I thought. Um remotes are being considered ugly. F uh seventy five percent of the um people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly. Um and an additional eighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control. So Um in addition remotes were not very functional. Fifty percent of the people indicated they only loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. And fifty percent of the people indicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room. So Erin Long: Mm. Philomena Smith: some things. Then we did some research to the most relevant functions. Channel selection and volume selection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy. The power button got a nine. And teletext got a six and a half. So these are the most most uh important functions on a remote control. Then there are some one-time use function. That's what I like to call them. That uh audio settings, video settings, and channel settings buttons. Which are not really used very frequently, but are still considered to be of some importance. Um channel selection was also indicated to be used very frequently. One hundred and sixty eight times per hour. Then these are the This is the market. Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six. Um Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control. Um they like to use new f new functions. But they also are very critical. They won't spend their money very easily. So Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of the market. They are not really very interested in features. But they do tend to spend their money a lot easier. Um What I think this indicates for our um design. I think we should make a remote for the future. And this means we would um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five. Uh this also makes up most the biggest part of the market, so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable. Um this would mean we would have to make a fancy design. Um The results also indicated that um about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R_S_ R_S_I_. Um this is certainly something to take into account. And thirty four percent thought that it was hard to learn a n how to operate a new control, remote control. So these are two factors that I think should be included in the design. Besides of course that the remote must look very nice. And the functionality As a lot of people indicated, they only use about ten percent of the buttons, I think we should make very few buttons. Uh this will also be uh beneficial to the design of the remote. Uh I think the most frequently used buttons should be emphasised. Especially the channel selection and audio uh selection buttons. 'Cause they're used most and so they should be robust. They shouldn't break down easily. Um Then as mo as a lot of people indicated that their um remote got lost in the room, it might be and I say might be because it would um certainly boost the uh production costs a lot. But it might be a good idea to make a docking station. And this would, could get a button in it which would send a signal to the remote which would then beep. So you'd know where it is in the room. And in addition to this it could um recharge the batteries in the remote if you put it in. Then um a surprisingly great deal of people w indicated that um an L_C_D_ screen in the remote control would be preferred. This was um mostly people in the age of sixteen to twenty five. But up till forty five it remains feasible. This would also greatly increase the production costs but I think these are just some small factors we could consider. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Philomena Smith: That would be all. Catherine Zuchowski: Thank you. So anybody have um any questions Philomena Smith: Any questions? Catherine Zuchowski: until now? Erin Long: Mm-hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: About functional requirements? Grace Smith: No. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay that's clear. Philomena Smith: 'Kay. Catherine Zuchowski: Now to the second. Erin Long: Uh okay. I've been looking at uh the user interface of it. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it. Um Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah you can Erin Long: Okay. Catherine Zuchowski: take your time. We've got uh Erin Long: Mm? Catherine Zuchowski: plenty Philomena Smith: Yeah Catherine Zuchowski: of Philomena Smith: you should Catherine Zuchowski: time, Philomena Smith: go to Catherine Zuchowski: so Philomena Smith: the Erin Long: Oh. Philomena Smith: top thingy. Erin Long: Uh. Philomena Smith: Slide show. Oh Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: yeah. Erin Long: Okay. Catherine Zuchowski: There it is. Yeah. Erin Long: Um yeah. I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control. Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and not much information about it, Um about uh interface but uh Uh Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control. Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D_V_D_ uh uh television, uh stereo. So um But uh it must be uh user-friendly. So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh Yeah. Uh uh uh Yeah. In one um remote Catherine Zuchowski: One Erin Long: control. Catherine Zuchowski: remote. Erin Long: But um Yeah. Um yeah. Got uh many functions in one uh remote control, um but um yeah you can see, this is uh quite simple uh remote control. Um few uh buttons but uh This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons. Um uh people uh don't like it, uh so um Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are. So uh like uh the on-off uh button. Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button. Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that. Um My personal uh preferences um. Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device. So um Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um Erin Long: Uh this the remote control uh and uh you got here the general functions, uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh I dunno um And um here you've got a s kind of a display. It's a touchscreen. So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D_V_D_ player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh. And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device. So um this button is for a D_V_D_ or So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons. So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device. So Catherine Zuchowski: Hmm. Erin Long: uh that's uh my uh idea about it. Catherine Zuchowski: 'Kay. Erin Long: Um yeah and Uh let's see. Uh yeah. So a touchscreen. Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um. We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah. Everybody uh have to use it so Uh ol even even old people um young people. So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large. So uh Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: Um Yeah. Uh yeah. That was uh my uh Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Erin Long: part of it. So Catherine Zuchowski: Anybody has questions about the technical functions? Grace Smith: Well I think if we are gonna a uh we're gonna above the twelve and a half Euros. Erin Long: N Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: I I don't think so. Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen. Catherine Zuchowski: Touchscreen. Erin Long: S um it's uh not uh in colour or something. Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah. Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago. Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh for uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh. Catherine Zuchowski: Huh. Erin Long: So Philomena Smith: Hmm. Erin Long: it's possible. Catherine Zuchowski: 'Kay. That's nice. Philomena Smith: Well it would Catherine Zuchowski: Uh Philomena Smith: certainly make a fancy design. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: But Philomena Smith: So Grace Smith: the It wouldn't be very robust. It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it. Philomena Smith: That is true. Catherine Zuchowski: That's Erin Long: Yeah that's true. Philomena Smith: We Catherine Zuchowski: right. Philomena Smith: would have Catherine Zuchowski: Uh Philomena Smith: to look into that. Catherine Zuchowski: maybe we can first um listen to your presentation? Uh Erin Long: Uh. Philomena Smith: Yeah. Grace Smith: That's. Catherine Zuchowski: And then we have a little discussion about the requirements and uh Grace Smith: Okay. Catherine Zuchowski: design. Catherine Zuchowski: I think it's going to Uh it's not too much. Okay. Grace Smith: Okay I've got a presentation about the working design. Um first about how it works. It's really simple of course. Everybody knows how a remote works. The user presses a button. The remote determines what button it is, The T_V_ switches to the frequency, or what function it is. So we've got um the the plate. It gots conductive disks for every button. When the user presses a button, a signal got sent, goes to the LED and transmits tranmi transmits its to the T_V_. It's a very simple device, technically speaking. So this is a schematic overview. You've got the buttons. The power source. And uh when a button gets pressed, its goes to the chip. The chip uh controls the infrared bulb and perf perhaps a normal bulb. When you press a button you can actually see your pressed button. Well um I think we should use default materials, simple plastics. Keep the inner workings simple, so it's robust. Uh I think we should focus on aesthetics, the design and the user interface, because if you're going to use high-tech materials the price is going to go sky-high. And uh you only have to design a remote once, and if you use high-tech materials it come back in every product. So it's, in my idea, it's uh it's gonna be smart to invest in di in design and not in uh in the product itself. That's it. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Thank you. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Uh Okay now I hope everybody has a little bit more insight in the functions we all have and what we are doing right now. Um I'm Catherine Zuchowski so I'm here to mess things up and uh tell you some new uh requirements. Um that's, we've uh got to design a um remote which is only suitable for T_V_. Um that's because Erin Long: Okay. Catherine Zuchowski: uh it will be too complex and the time to market will be too big, if we wanna have it uh for more functions. Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: So it has to be simple. Uh another point is we have to skip the teletext, because in the world of uh upcoming internet uh we think teletext is going to be uh a thing of the past. And uh it's a function we don't need in our remote control. Um internet is also mentioned in a function we can use. Uh maybe also on televisions it will be available as well. Another one is uh the customer is uh forty plus. Uh that's the the market we have to to to target, because we are going to develop a new product which is specially designed for the younger customers. Um this is uh a bit pity for the Marketing uh Expert. Because he was uh aiming on the the younger persons. So we have to find a market which is above forty plus uh but which will suit our uh remote control, and the other way round. And we have to be very uh attent in uh putting the corporate image uh in our product. So it has to be visible in our design, in the way our device works. And uh we have to be uh very clear on this point as well. So I suggest let's have a discussion on the control functions. Yeah. Philomena Smith: So is there any discussion possible about the new product requirement? Catherine Zuchowski: Uh we can see if we can find a way uh between the functions we wanna use and the market we wanna reach with our product. Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: Um Philomena Smith: Yeah 'cause you're you're saying that teletext is gonna be an old feature and it's not gonna be used anymore anyway pretty soon. And new T_V_s will have internet access on them. Philomena Smith: within the next like twenty years is very slim. In Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: addition people indicated that teletext simply was an important feature for the remote control. So I think it's pretty dumb to put no teletext feature on it. I'm pretty much against it. Catherine Zuchowski: Against the no Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: teletext? Philomena Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: Um Philomena Smith: Besides that, I think the market for forty plus is like pretty small. But Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah Philomena Smith: I mean if Catherine Zuchowski: it's Philomena Smith: I Catherine Zuchowski: it Philomena Smith: s if Catherine Zuchowski: is Philomena Smith: I see Erin Long: forty Philomena Smith: this, it's I think we're just gonna go for another Catherine Zuchowski: Standard remote. Philomena Smith: pretty Catherine Zuchowski: No I think Philomena Smith: and Catherine Zuchowski: we can Philomena Smith: not innovative Catherine Zuchowski: I think Philomena Smith: remote Catherine Zuchowski: we Philomena Smith: control. Catherine Zuchowski: can do a lot with the design and the simple buttons which were also mentioned. Uh if we put a lot of effort in those, we can make a remote control with uh just two or three buttons. Or just a remote which is suitable for the market we wanna reach because Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: it is forty percent of the market. And um if you look in Holland at the whole generation of forty plus, fifty plus, it it's the the biggest share of the of the whole population now. Philomena Smith: Yes but it's not the biggest part of the market. Catherine Zuchowski: No. Philomena Smith: And besides that, they're not very critical so I mean they don't really care what the remote control is like. They'll just pretty much take the first thing they see and which looks acceptable. Catherine Zuchowski: But don't you think that Catherine Zuchowski: people think that's the the device I've looked for although I didn't realise it. So let's try it. Philomena Smith: No. I think that would be the case in the sixteen to forty five age category. because they are critical and they they want to have a fancy remote control. Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: People of forty plus, I mean they want it to work, but as soo as soon as it works it's okay with them. Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: I think that if Philomena Smith: So Grace Smith: we're If we put our marketing right um we can sell this just like um I don't know if you've heard about it in the news, the the elderly mobile phone? Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. It's a big success. Grace Smith: Yeah if we Philomena Smith: I haven't Grace Smith: if we Philomena Smith: heard Grace Smith: make Catherine Zuchowski: Very Philomena Smith: of Grace Smith: a Catherine Zuchowski: big Grace Smith: remote Philomena Smith: it. Catherine Zuchowski: success. Grace Smith: control just Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: l with that idea in mind, we could make tons of money, I think. Philomena Smith: Hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh. Erin Long: Mm. Grace Smith: We Catherine Zuchowski: I Grace Smith: don't have Catherine Zuchowski: think Grace Smith: to focus Catherine Zuchowski: so as well. Grace Smith: on on on the on the design then but on functionality. We just change our focus on the project, and I think we can uh we can sell this. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh I simply think um uh that the new products we are gonna make, uh spef specifically design, are designed for uh younger people, uh so maybe we can focus ourself on the elderly people. And I think we have to um see what requirements we need for those um remote controls. 'Cause what you told is the channel selection is important. Philomena Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: Volume selection, Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: power and teletext. Philomena Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Um Philomena Smith: But obviously the board tends to disagree. Catherine Zuchowski: No we we haven't voted yet, so Uh I think teletext can be uh um can be a function as well. But only if uh if it won't higher the the cost, because I don't know if it will be a lot more money to implement teletext as well, but I don't think it will be a problem. Or is teletext Erin Long: But Catherine Zuchowski: a Erin Long: um deaf people need uh teletext for uh for Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: subtitles. Philomena Smith: Yeah, also. Erin Long: So it's Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. So I suggest Philomena Smith: I think Catherine Zuchowski: uh Philomena Smith: it'd definitely Erin Long: It's Philomena Smith: be a bad idea not to include Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: teletext. Catherine Zuchowski: Is anybody um really against teletext? Grace Smith: No. Catherine Zuchowski: No? Just that, that we just keep the teletext. I think that's a good idea as well, especially for the subtitles. Maybe we can make that um another point of advantage in our remote control, if we uh make a k a button ex for example for big subtitles, which is instantly on the remote control. Erin Long: Yeah Catherine Zuchowski: For elderly Erin Long: yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: people they can think, oh I wanna have subtitles, and they push the button and they get the big subtitles. Grace Smith: Uh that's Erin Long: Yeah. Grace Smith: a good idea. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Um so I think teletext can v can be very useful in our advantage. Um Functionality should be few buttons, you said. Philomena Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: I think Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: uh that's very important we have a few buttons. Philomena Smith: Mm-hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: So to keep it Philomena Smith: But Catherine Zuchowski: simple. Philomena Smith: I don't think that's really an issue any more 'cause Well might be. Erin Long: If it's Philomena Smith: But I mean Erin Long: only Philomena Smith: it, Erin Long: for Philomena Smith: if Erin Long: televi Philomena Smith: it's only for T_V_ Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: you're not gonna need a lot of buttons Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: anyway. You Catherine Zuchowski: No. Philomena Smith: need a one to zero button, Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: next channel, previous channel, volume up, volume down, and some teletext buttons but Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. But Philomena Smith: I Catherine Zuchowski: do Philomena Smith: think Catherine Zuchowski: you Philomena Smith: if Catherine Zuchowski: need Erin Long: So Philomena Smith: you Erin Long: we Philomena Smith: if you only Erin Long: can s Philomena Smith: l Erin Long: we can skip the display, so uh we Catherine Zuchowski: But Erin Long: don't need it. Philomena Smith: Nah. Catherine Zuchowski: do you need the buttons for one to zero. Maybe Erin Long: Uh Catherine Zuchowski: c Philomena Smith: Think Catherine Zuchowski: we can Philomena Smith: if you're gonna include teletext you do. I think many people like to use that. Catherine Zuchowski: Maybe we Philomena Smith: 'Cause Catherine Zuchowski: can Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: if Catherine Zuchowski: use Philomena Smith: you should, Catherine Zuchowski: uh Philomena Smith: if you want to switch from channel one to like thirty five, you don't wanna push the next channel button thirty Erin Long: Yeah. Philomena Smith: five times. Catherine Zuchowski: No, maybe we can implement the scroll button? Or a joystick Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: like? There are other ways too. Just look if you look at telephones. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: The Sony telephone has a scroll Erin Long: Mm-hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: button which is very useful in Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: searching names or Philomena Smith: That's true but um I don't think there are many T_V_s that can switch channels that fast. And so you would need like the T_V_ would need an a function where you can actually view all channels and scroll through it. And I dunno if many channels would do have that. If many T_V_s have that. Grace Smith: Yeah. Erin Long: Mm. Grace Smith: And besides that it's um If we're gonna focus on elderly people they'll have to adapt. They're not used to using scroll buttons. Catherine Zuchowski: That's Grace Smith: So Catherine Zuchowski: right. Philomena Smith: Mm-hmm. Erin Long: Mm. Grace Smith: perhaps we should s stick to the basic layout. Catherine Zuchowski: the numbers yeah. Yeah they can see how much buttons there are going to be on on the display, and if it's too much we can uh reconsider it. But I think Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: there won't be very much buttons. Or there don't Philomena Smith: But Catherine Zuchowski: have to be Philomena Smith: I don't Catherine Zuchowski: a lot. Philomena Smith: think I think if you're gonna make a remote control only to operate a T_V_, you there's not much you can gain on um having as few buttons as possible. 'Cause I think there are pretty many remote controls that can only operate a T_V_, which already only have the minimum number of buttons. I don't think there's much to be gained in that area. Catherine Zuchowski: The Erin Long: Hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: number of buttons? Philomena Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: I think it's very important in the in the design. You can make a very fancy design uh with putting the buttons on the right places. And if you have less buttons you can do a lot more with Philomena Smith: That is true but I think there's simply not much to gain on the competition when you when you're making a remote control only for to operate only the T_V_. Catherine Zuchowski: To operate only Philomena Smith: 'Cause Catherine Zuchowski: the T_V_ Philomena Smith: if you have Catherine Zuchowski: yeah. Philomena Smith: a a remote control only to operate a T_V_ there's simply not a lot of buttons required. There's not a lot of functions required so most existing remote controls simply don't have a lot of buttons either. Catherine Zuchowski: No. Erin Long: No. Catherine Zuchowski: So. Philomena Smith: So I think it would be very hard to actually gain on the competition here. Catherine Zuchowski: 'Kay. So we Philomena Smith: That would Catherine Zuchowski: can Philomena Smith: that would cost a a big marketing expedition Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. That's right. Philomena Smith: which was one of the arguments to make it only for the T_V_ because we didn't have the time to market a lot. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. So you suggest we could better um focus on for example the docking station. Uh uh like other functions. Instead Philomena Smith: Maybe. Catherine Zuchowski: of f of less buttons. Philomena Smith: Well yeah I think, mean we obviously need a good way to position all the buttons and But I don't think we should spend very much time in that. Catherine Zuchowski: Mm. No. Do you think the docking station will uh is allowed in the budget we have? Grace Smith: It should be possible yes. Catherine Zuchowski: 'Cause it Grace Smith: If it's Erin Long: No. Catherine Zuchowski: can Grace Smith: not Catherine Zuchowski: be Grace Smith: too fancy. And Catherine Zuchowski: No. Grace Smith: if the remote stays rather small, it should be possible yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: No. Catherine Zuchowski: Because I think that's uh That's a good advantage point as well. If we have a fancy-looking Grace Smith: Yes. Catherine Zuchowski: docking station or very Erin Long: Hmm. Catherine Zuchowski: That's a nice requirement. Docking station. Grace Smith: So we're just gonna focus on the extras? Catherine Zuchowski: I think so. Grace Smith: Yeah. Erin Long: Mm. Philomena Smith: Yeah I think maybe we should do some research into what elderly people like to have in a Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: like to have extra in a new remote control. Catherine Zuchowski: That's a good point. Um You said they easily get lost as well. Philomena Smith: Yes well fifty percent of the people indicated that remote Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: control tended to get lost. Catherine Zuchowski: So maybe we should implement the audio sign, or something. Philomena Smith: Yeah that was what I suggested. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: Like with Philomena Smith: You Grace Smith: your Philomena Smith: have it Grace Smith: key-chain, Philomena Smith: on Grace Smith: if you Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: whistle it goes Philomena Smith: Yeah Grace Smith: uh it makes Erin Long: Hm. Grace Smith: a sound. Philomena Smith: you have it's on some phones too, which have a docking station. Grace Smith: Yeah. Philomena Smith: And you just press a button and the phone goes ringing. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. So Philomena Smith: So you know where it is. Catherine Zuchowski: audio signal should be possible as well. I think it's not too expensive. Erin Long: No. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh another point is the L_C_D_ screen. Um I don't know if that will rise the cost too much, Grace Smith: Y Catherine Zuchowski: because Grace Smith: i um I think we'll have to choose between the docking station or the screen, 'cause Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Grace Smith: it's uh Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: It will be too much as well. Philomena Smith: I think since a lot of people indicated that a new remote control is hard to learn, and we're focusing on elderly people here which tend to have a hard time understanding new devices, it might be a good idea to have just a little screen on it, which would explain a button if you press it. Which would tell you what it does. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: And it wouldn't have to be touchscreen or Catherine Zuchowski: Based. Philomena Smith: a very expensive Erin Long: Okay. Philomena Smith: screen, but Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Just the L_C_D_. Oh just the normal screen. Philomena Smith: Just a small Catherine Zuchowski: That's a good Philomena Smith: screen Catherine Zuchowski: idea. Philomena Smith: with two Catherine Zuchowski: So Some extra info. Feedback. Philomena Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: I think that's a good idea as well. Philomena Smith: But I dunno if that would Catherine Zuchowski: As the small Philomena Smith: that would Catherine Zuchowski: screen. Philomena Smith: fit into the costs. Catherine Zuchowski: Extra button info. I think that should be possible as well. Um let's see what did we say. Mm. More. Should be fancy to, fancy design, easy to learn. Few buttons, we talked about that. Docking station, L_C_D_. Um general functions Yeah. 'Kay. And default materials. I think that's a good idea as well, because um elderly people don't mind if it's a titanium cover or just a plastic one. So Philomena Smith: No. Catherine Zuchowski: that Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: doesn't really matter. So I think Philomena Smith: I think Catherine Zuchowski: we Philomena Smith: probably Catherine Zuchowski: nee Philomena Smith: elderly people would be a little bit more careful with their remote controls than youngsters. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh let's um specify the target group. Because are we talking about elderly elderly people or people from forty to eighty. Because I think what we're going to design now is for people above sixty, maybe. Erin Long: Mm. Philomena Smith: Yeah. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Uh what do we want? Philomena Smith: I think Catherine Zuchowski: If we want um a with uh for example the the telephone for elderly people, we can target the real elderly people. Philomena Smith: I think that would be a If we should do something like that it would be a, I think it would be really good for uh for the image of the company. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Philomena Smith: And I think, I think there would be a good market for it. Catherine Zuchowski: So that's Philomena Smith: If Catherine Zuchowski: the Philomena Smith: we're able to really bring an innovative product. Catherine Zuchowski: Now you're talking about sixty to eighty for example. Philomena Smith: Yeah the really Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: Mm. Philomena Smith: But Catherine Zuchowski: Sixty. Philomena Smith: I'd have to look into that a little more. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. And different cultures. Are we Grace Smith: Well I don't think they have different television sets uh Erin Long: Mm. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. Grace Smith: in uh every country. Catherine Zuchowski: No. Erin Long: No. Grace Smith: 'Cause Catherine Zuchowski: We've got five minutes Erin Long: So Catherine Zuchowski: left just Erin Long: 'Kay. Catherine Zuchowski: now. Philomena Smith: 'Kay. Catherine Zuchowski: Small warning. Philomena Smith: And with uh the little screen in it, which explains the buttons. Catherine Zuchowski: Should Philomena Smith: You could I think we n it would be a lot easier to adapt it to different cultures. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. In different languages, you Philomena Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: know. Grace Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Yeah. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: or you have to put a Erin Long: Right. Catherine Zuchowski: language button in it, but that will be Erin Long: No. Catherine Zuchowski: a bit unnecessary Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: I think. Philomena Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: It's better to put it on different markets with it all. Erin Long: Yeah. Grace Smith: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: Okay. So that's the the target. Uh then a few small things. Uh okay. I will put the minutes in the project uh project document folder. Um what we're going to do for the next meeting is Grace Smith will do the components concept, User Interface Designer the user interface concept, and the trend-watching. So just keep in mind the things we've said about the target group, uh requirements, and the trends which are uh going on. And uh specific instructions will be sent to you by uh the personal coach. Philomena Smith: 'Kay. Catherine Zuchowski: So um I thank you for this meeting. And I think we have a lunch-break now. Philomena Smith: That's good. Erin Long: Yeah. Catherine Zuchowski: So that's a good thing.	Catherine Zuchowski stated the agenda and Philomena Smith discussed what functions are most relevant on a remote, what the target demographic is, and what his vision for the appearance of the remote is. Philomena Smith also brought up the idea to include a docking station to prevent the remote from getting lost and the idea to include an LCD screen. Erin Long pushed for a user-friendly interface with large buttons, a display function, a touchscreen, and the capability of controlling different devices. Grace Smith discussed the interior workings of a remote and Catherine Zuchowski briefed the team on some new requirements they are to abide by. The team then discussed teletext, the target demographic, the buttons the remote should have, the idea of marketing a remote designed for the elderly, an audio signal which can sound if the remote is lost, LCD screens, and language options.	4	amisum	train
Rosalia Conrad: So Rosalia Conrad: Hello. Christine Miller: Good afternoon. Sorry I'm a little late. Rosalia Conrad: No problem Christine Miller: Got stuck in the traffic. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. That's possible on uh this time of day. Starts at three o'clock. Uh Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Uh, let Christine Miller see. Our fourth and last meeting. There he is. Yes. Okay this our last meeting. In this meeting we will discuss our final design. And we will do some evaluation about the, not only the product, but also the project. And then we're going to close the project today as well. So after this you be free to go and uh spend all your money. And this uh design, detailed design meeting uh we will discuss uh the look-and-feel of the design, the usability interface design, and we will do the product evaluation. Um, in order to do that we have this agenda. We'll have the prototype presentation first. Then we will set up some evaluation cri um criteria. Then we will look at the finance. Uh we will have to see if everything we wanna do is also possible within our budget. Because everything costs money, and the more functions you wanna have the more money it will cost. So we have to see if it fits within the twelve and a half Euro per remote. But we will see that later. Then we will do the project uh evaluation, and the closing after that. We've got forty minutes. So we will be finished at half past three. But first um we will do the this is prototype presentation. So, if some Tracy Hampton: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: yeah if somebody wants step forward. Tracy Hampton: Well this what Christine Miller Richard came up with. The default spot for the on-off button. The mute button just below that. Then there's the volume and channel selectors. Simple plus-minus button. Uh we thought of a help button. If you hold it and you press another button, uh the help goes to the L_C_D_ screen. Then there's the zero to one to zero buttons. A button for teletext. A button for the subtitles. And the company logo. And uh we'll have to see from testing uh how the users take it. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Christine Miller: Um, is this the moment where we Alice Mckay: So Christine Miller: ask or can ask questions about the functionality? Tracy Hampton: Sure Alice Mckay: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: uh Alice Mckay: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: just pop in at any time. Christine Miller: Um, when you're in teletext there usually are buttons where you just you just press it and you g go to the next teletext page. Alice Mckay: Uh, uh the uh as th as the normal uh remote controls uh So um You put it uh you um came in uh page uh one hundred. Now Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Alice Mckay: you can use the normal uh one to zero buttons. And you But you can also uh use the um button th for uh changing the S so shifting. Christine Miller: Okay. Alice Mckay: yeah shifting up in on t on t down. So Christine Miller: Okay. Um Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Uh but um I thought in a few meetings earlier we uh uh tried to keep it uh simple. Alice Mckay: Oh yeah? Rosalia Conrad: Uh just a few buttons and large buttons. But uh I think these are altogether quite a quite a few buttons. So I'm wondering if we if we neely really need all of those buttons. Tracy Hampton: I think if you look at most controls, they've got more buttons than this. Rosalia Conrad: That's right. Tracy Hampton: And Alice Mckay: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: well the on-off button, it's it's a necessity. You Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: can't drop that one. The volume and channel buttons, you need you obviously need those those. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: The mute button could be replaced uh by pressing the volume-down button twice. So we could cancel that one. I think the help button really is necessary Alice Mckay: Yeah Tracy Hampton: because Alice Mckay: yeah. Tracy Hampton: there's no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does. Rosalia Conrad: Mm. Alice Mckay: Uh, or you can build in uh when you press uh one button uh Rosalia Conrad: Long Alice Mckay: uh Rosalia Conrad: time. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. If Alice Mckay: But Rosalia Conrad: you put Alice Mckay: m Yeah. We disc discuss that already. But uh we think uh old people uh don't know that uh option. So uh they just put in uh put press uh the button and uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Okay. Tracy Hampton: Well, you can't leave out the number buttons I guess. Alice Mckay: And uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: And Rosalia Conrad: Uh teletext and subtitles are Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: yeah Alice Mckay: Oh. Rosalia Conrad: necessary. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Tracy Hampton: So it's rather basic already. Christine Miller: Yeah. Think so. That's what I pointed out earlier. If you just make a for just the T_V_ there's just not much to gain here. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yep. Okay. So we had somebody about th interfa Something about the design of the buttons there? Tracy Hampton: Yeah, they're It's Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Just n normal Tracy Hampton: rather Rosalia Conrad: plain Tracy Hampton: hard Alice Mckay: Yeah, Tracy Hampton: to Alice Mckay: it Tracy Hampton: draw Rosalia Conrad: buttons. Tracy Hampton: on the white-board. But they're supposed to be equal sized, round, with a with a little logo on it for the for the volume, the Alice Mckay: Yeah Tracy Hampton: the triangle Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: yeah. Tracy Hampton: and Alice Mckay: Just Tracy Hampton: stuff. Alice Mckay: to recognise Rosalia Conrad: 'Kay. Alice Mckay: it, so Tracy Hampton: Just for Alice Mckay: uh Tracy Hampton: recognition. Alice Mckay: Uh yeah and now we don't need uh LEDs or um Rosalia Conrad: No. Alice Mckay: Y uh s some uh remote controls uh do it also, Rosalia Conrad: No. Alice Mckay: but um uh because we use the little display we don't uh have to use it. Uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: so Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Tracy Hampton: So and for the materials we've just chosen for rubber buttons. Alice Mckay: Nay. Tracy Hampton: With Rosalia Conrad: Yep. Tracy Hampton: a a different colour than the case. So they jump out. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Tracy Hampton: And uh that's about it. Rosalia Conrad: That's nice. Then because we only have thirty minutes left, I will move on to the finance part, which is pretty exciting, to see if it's all possible what we wanna do. And I can tell you that we're going to have a pretty hard time producing this for twelve and a half Euros. Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: If we see I don't know if I've filled in correctly, so just correct Christine Miller if you see uh something wrong. I counted two batteries. But maybe we can also use one. I don't know if it's Christine Miller: Since Rosalia Conrad: possible. Christine Miller: it rechargeable. Rosalia Conrad: It's rechargeable. That's Alice Mckay: Yeah Rosalia Conrad: right. Alice Mckay: we can u just uh Rosalia Conrad: Okay. That's two Euros off. Alice Mckay: 'Kay. Rosalia Conrad: We need the advanced chip. So there's Tracy Hampton: Yep. Rosalia Conrad: not much to uh to save there. Here we have the single curves. Uh we can see that the difference between uncurved and the single curved is one Euro. Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: Um, I don't know, but I think the single curved is good for design, Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: and also for the display to have a prominent place on the remote control. Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: I think we have to keep that. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Then we have the case material supplements. It's plastic. It's the cheapest one we need. So that's uh not much to save either. But then the biggest costs are the buttons. So maybe we really should try to Alice Mckay: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: discard some buttons to uh keep our costs low. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Because you have to we will have to get the twelve and a half Euros at the end. Um, so if we Let's fir first count Alice Mckay: Uh Rosalia Conrad: the buttons we have now. Because Alice Mckay: Sixteen, Rosalia Conrad: I Alice Mckay: I believe so. Rosalia Conrad: Sixteen. Nah, that will be even more then. Eighteen Euros. So, Alice Mckay: Uh seventeen. Rosalia Conrad: seventeen. Christine Miller: Um Alice Mckay: Uh with the help button. Rosalia Conrad: Okay, Tracy Hampton: Yep. Rosalia Conrad: including the Christine Miller: Damn. Rosalia Conrad: help? Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Uh seventeen. I think we can uh discard the help and the mute button uh by pressing down volume long, or pressing down a a number Tracy Hampton: Yep. Rosalia Conrad: long. That saves us uh one Euro already. 'Cause then we have got fifteen I think? Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Christine Miller: Wouldn't Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Fifteen Christine Miller: No. Rosalia Conrad: buttons. Christine Miller: That wouldn't be an option. Rosalia Conrad: And Christine Miller: Uh, Rosalia Conrad: this Christine Miller: d Rosalia Conrad: is Christine Miller: I assume you'd count the volume and channel thingies for two buttons each, right? Rosalia Conrad: No those are one, Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: I think. Christine Miller: Well, think Alice Mckay: Where Christine Miller: actually Alice Mckay: did Christine Miller: there're two Alice Mckay: uh Christine Miller: buttons, Alice Mckay: Uh, Christine Miller: aren't they? Alice Mckay: it's just one button. But, um Yeah. There were uh two uh for one big button. But they are uh more expensive than the small ones. Uh, yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah Alice Mckay: So Rosalia Conrad: but th it's not stated in this Alice Mckay: It's just a. Rosalia Conrad: files. So maybe we can we can even make one button with the volume and the channel in one, by Christine Miller: Well Rosalia Conrad: pressing Christine Miller: I was thinking, maybe you could just integrate three of those numbers to one button. Rosalia Conrad: That's possibility as well. Christine Miller: That would cut the cost. Rosalia Conrad: So And it's good for the design as well. So you can make Uh let's see. If you make this Rosalia Conrad: Looks a bit like uh a cross. Plus. Min. Alice Mckay: But I don't don't know if if it's Rosalia Conrad: Uh s yeah Alice Mckay: cheaper. Rosalia Conrad: channel. Alice Mckay: So uh, Rosalia Conrad: Yeah Alice Mckay: we've Rosalia Conrad: w Alice Mckay: still got four buttons, but just um So Rosalia Conrad: Yeah th I think they count uh the materials. Alice Mckay: You got uh not not a butt button itself, but uh on the um Rosalia Conrad: Yeah on the chip there. Alice Mckay: Yeah. On Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: the chip Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: you've got still Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Alice Mckay: uh four Rosalia Conrad: That's Alice Mckay: uh Rosalia Conrad: right. That's right. Alice Mckay: four buttons. So Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: But I think because we have the advanced chip Alice Mckay: Yeah, but Rosalia Conrad: we can just count this as one button. But No but I Christine Miller: But, Rosalia Conrad: think Christine Miller: I think this really is four buttons anyhow. Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Maybe it is, but then it seems to Christine Miller that it's impossible to get the twelve and a half Euros. Also the Christine Miller: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: L_C_ display, Tracy Hampton: Uh that's Rosalia Conrad: I Tracy Hampton: that's Rosalia Conrad: think Tracy Hampton: a big Rosalia Conrad: it's, Tracy Hampton: cost. Rosalia Conrad: I think it's too expensive for the display we use. Tracy Hampton: If we leave out the display we can also save money on the chip. Rosalia Conrad: That's right, but what's the big advantage of our remote then? Christine Miller: Only the docking station, I guess. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: Which isn't the the docking station isn't even in this c s schematic. Rosalia Conrad: No. Tracy Hampton: So it's not even Rosalia Conrad: That's Tracy Hampton: taken Rosalia Conrad: extra. Tracy Hampton: into the price. Rosalia Conrad: That's extra. That's right. Christine Miller: Maybe we should to a different supplier. Rosalia Conrad: That's an option. Poland. Something. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Polish supplier. Don't you think we can, if we can count this as v as one button, and integrate th uh these buttons in three, then we save a lot of money as well. Tracy Hampton: We we could save money on it. But would it make the remote more usable for elderly people? Christine Miller: Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Tracy Hampton: My mother can't even send send an S_M_S_ message. So Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. That's a point. Christine Miller: Um Alice Mckay: Are we gonna buy a um a remote control uh when you can uh use it? So um Yeah. We m uh we must um stay below the um below um twelve uh fifty or Rosalia Conrad: Yep. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Can't uh go um Rosalia Conrad: No. Christine Miller: Well, since the market research indicated that older people spend their money easier, more easy, maybe it's feasible to just put the price of the remote up a little. Especially since we have those Alice Mckay: Nay. Christine Miller: nice features. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah but uh we have to stick to the twelve and a half Euros. We don't have any more budget to Tracy Hampton: The margin Rosalia Conrad: develop Alice Mckay: Is it Tracy Hampton: will Alice Mckay: impossible Tracy Hampton: get Rosalia Conrad: it. Tracy Hampton: too small. Alice Mckay: to Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: But it Rosalia Conrad: So Alice Mckay: is possible to make one uh for uh twelve fifty. I don't think Rosalia Conrad: It Alice Mckay: so. Rosalia Conrad: is. If Christine Miller: It Rosalia Conrad: you Christine Miller: would Rosalia Conrad: leave Christine Miller: be a be Rosalia Conrad: out Christine Miller: a Rosalia Conrad: the L_C_ Christine Miller: pretty Alice Mckay: S Christine Miller: rigid Rosalia Conrad: display. Christine Miller: one. Rosalia Conrad: And if you use Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: less buttons. Say Tracy Hampton: Ten. Alice Mckay: But, Rosalia Conrad: Or you can Alice Mckay: you can't use Rosalia Conrad: take Alice Mckay: uh Rosalia Conrad: the single chip. There it is. Alice Mckay: Yeah. But we want to make a Rosalia Conrad: But then Alice Mckay: uh Rosalia Conrad: w Alice Mckay: so uh uh fancy and a good uh Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Good looking. Alice Mckay: Uh, wi with n Oh, with uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: attractive uh o options. So uh, you can stay uh below uh twelve fifty. So Rosalia Conrad: I think Christine Miller: Or Rosalia Conrad: it's Christine Miller: b Rosalia Conrad: uh difficult as well, but Christine Miller: Basically becoming a choice between like either a good remote and a higher production cost, or just Tracy Hampton: No remote. Christine Miller: any other remote control. Rosalia Conrad: Or we can leave out the ten buttons and take one scroll wheel for the programme numbers. Alice Mckay: Scroll-wheel's Rosalia Conrad: Then w Alice Mckay: one. Rosalia Conrad: Because Tracy Hampton: That's Rosalia Conrad: then Alice Mckay: No, it Rosalia Conrad: we save ten buttons. Then Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: we have five and one. And and see. If we have this one and we've got the advanced W uh, Tracy Hampton: We're getting closer. Rosalia Conrad: we're getting Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: close. Christine Miller: But how does scroll-wheel work here? Rosalia Conrad: Then you will Or maybe you can um scroll. If you scroll you will see the numbers on the L_C_D_ display. Until you've Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: got the right number, then you push it. Christine Miller: That would bring up the price of the scroll-wheel also. Rosalia Conrad: Alright. Christine Miller: Integrated Rosalia Conrad: It's gotta Christine Miller: scroll-wheel Rosalia Conrad: scroll and Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: push. Christine Miller: push-button. Rosalia Conrad: Okay but Christine Miller: But Rosalia Conrad: then you Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: you can push uh some other button as well. Tracy Hampton: You could just not scroll for a half a second. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: So Rosalia Conrad: That's right. So Tracy Hampton: you Rosalia Conrad: if Tracy Hampton: won't Rosalia Conrad: you scroll Tracy Hampton: need a button. Rosalia Conrad: to a number and then you wait a half second, then it g turns to that channel. Christine Miller: I think that would be like the end of our usability. Alice Mckay: D yeah. Rosalia Conrad: But it would definitely crop cost, a lot. Christine Miller: Yeah, but Rosalia Conrad: And we need the battery. And the regular chip is not possible? It has to be advanced? Tracy Hampton: If you want to use an L_C_D_ screen you Rosalia Conrad: It has Tracy Hampton: you need Rosalia Conrad: to be Tracy Hampton: an advanced Rosalia Conrad: advanced. Tracy Hampton: chip, yes. Alice Mckay: Hmm. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Okay. And we can save a Euro by a flat design. That's an option we can Tracy Hampton: Yep. Alice Mckay: Ja ja. Rosalia Conrad: Then we're almost there. Tracy Hampton: Yeah if you v could just leave out one more button. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. So if we Alice Mckay: Yeah, or we have to uh skip the subtitle uh button. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah but I think Alice Mckay: So Rosalia Conrad: that's Alice Mckay: Yeah Rosalia Conrad: That is a big advantage, if we're Alice Mckay: Yeah it's a big advantage. But Rosalia Conrad: But Alice Mckay: um, Rosalia Conrad: Can we use Alice Mckay: it's Rosalia Conrad: can't we integrate the teletext and the subtitles in one button? Tracy Hampton: I Alice Mckay: Uh, Tracy Hampton: think Alice Mckay: yeah. Tracy Hampton: so. Yeah. Christine Miller: Well, Rosalia Conrad: If you push Christine Miller: think it's Rosalia Conrad: it Christine Miller: pretty much Rosalia Conrad: three Christine Miller: the Rosalia Conrad: times? Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: teletext subtitles are right now you just push the teletext button, go to page eight eight eight, Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: and Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: teletext disappears. But the subtitles stay there. Alice Mckay: But if you push Christine Miller: I Alice Mckay: the Christine Miller: think that's Alice Mckay: teletext Christine Miller: the case on Alice Mckay: button Christine Miller: most Alice Mckay: twice Tracy Hampton: What if you have to scroll Alice Mckay: It's Tracy Hampton: to page Alice Mckay: uh Tracy Hampton: eighty eight? Eight hundred eighty eight. Alice Mckay: One Rosalia Conrad: Ah that's Alice Mckay: m uh Rosalia Conrad: not Christine Miller: Well, Rosalia Conrad: really Christine Miller: that could Rosalia Conrad: that Christine Miller: be Alice Mckay: one Christine Miller: just Alice Mckay: b uh, a Christine Miller: uh Alice Mckay: few Christine Miller: like the Alice Mckay: buttons. Christine Miller: scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Okay. Christine Miller: But then again that would be d j just pretty much not an option for older people, who don't Tracy Hampton: No. Christine Miller: even know what a scroll-wheel is. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: Holding a Rosalia Conrad: No. Christine Miller: remote with which they expect to have like ten buttons for the numbers one to zero. With only five buttons on it. And a scroll-wheel. Rosalia Conrad: I think if you make a good advertisement uh on television and in the in the guide, you can explain to the people how to use the scroll wheel. If you just make it real simple. Because it saves it saves a lot of money. And we can keep our L_C_D_ screen, which can provide extra information. How to use the scroll wheel. How to use the other Christine Miller: True. Rosalia Conrad: bu buttons Christine Miller: True. Rosalia Conrad: as subtitles. Alice Mckay: Hmm. Rosalia Conrad: And it's good for the innovative design as well. If you would erase these. Mm eraser? Rosalia Conrad: And we put uh Rosalia Conrad: Looks a bit odd maybe. Christine Miller: That's a pretty big scroll wheel. Rosalia Conrad: That is Rosalia Conrad: Something like that. Then, yeah. We've got the scroll-wheel. One, two, three, four, five buttons, if we erase this one. Rosalia Conrad: And these are two buttons then. Tracy Hampton: We could make two buttons out of that. And just um If you press the volume button you Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: can control the volume with the scroll-wheel. So that would save two buttons. If you do Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: the same for the channel. Rosalia Conrad: That's really a good good idea, I think. And it will make the use of the scroll wheel Tracy Hampton: More Rosalia Conrad: uh Tracy Hampton: obvious. Rosalia Conrad: more obvious indeed. So we make one for the volume, one for the channel. Rosalia Conrad: Plus scroll. Tracy Hampton: So if we Rosalia Conrad: That's right. So we've got one, two, three. Yeah, we can leave the teletext in if we want. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: That's m Tracy Hampton: So Rosalia Conrad: that's better. Christine Miller: So this is five Tracy Hampton: If Christine Miller: buttons. Tracy Hampton: we leave out all those buttons, perhaps you can go with the flat flat case. And make it smaller overall. So Rosalia Conrad: Y Tracy Hampton: if Rosalia Conrad: yeah. Tracy Hampton: you put the the volume and channel buttons on the same height as the on-off button, the Rosalia Conrad: Mm yeah. Tracy Hampton: screen right behi under that, than the scroll button Rosalia Conrad: Uh yeah, Tracy Hampton: you Rosalia Conrad: and then Tracy Hampton: get Rosalia Conrad: you can Tracy Hampton: a a much smaller remote. Alice Mckay: Uh yeah. Rosalia Conrad: That's right. Tracy Hampton: And it Rosalia Conrad: So Tracy Hampton: sh Rosalia Conrad: we can decrease this one to four buttons. Tracy Hampton: Yeah? Christine Miller: Right now we have five. Alice Mckay: But uh, you can make a f quite a big uh remote remote control for uh just the same price as a small one. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Just uh Rosalia Conrad: That's Alice Mckay: you Rosalia Conrad: no problem. Alice Mckay: only have to pay for the double curved or single curved. It uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: it's a bit uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. It's uh it's more the moulds in which they are being made, I think. Single Christine Miller: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: curved is really easy to just fill in. And cases come right out of the machine. And single curved you have to have a different uh different machine, than a flat one. I think this is a really easy one. Um, what does everybody think about a flat or a single curved design? Freek, what do you think? Christine Miller: Well, I still think we should go for the single curve design. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Christine Miller: But then again, Tracy Hampton: Richard's argument was Christine Miller: all Tracy Hampton: very Christine Miller: these Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: changes Tracy Hampton: good. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: are not Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Christine Miller: really okay Rosalia Conrad: Yep. Christine Miller: with Christine Miller. But since Rosalia Conrad: We have to cut costs. Christine Miller: we just have to. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Yeah Christine Miller: I'd Rosalia Conrad: I'm Christine Miller: rather Rosalia Conrad: ag Christine Miller: just go to the board and Rosalia Conrad: Ask for more Christine Miller: get Rosalia Conrad: money. Christine Miller: us to spend eighteen dollars a a Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: remote. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. I am agreeing Christine Miller: Or do Rosalia Conrad: with Christine Miller: some Rosalia Conrad: the Christine Miller: market Rosalia Conrad: usability. Christine Miller: research and Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: see what the options are. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. But th um I think we can then keep the single curved one. Just to express our L_C_D_ screen a bit more. Tracy Hampton: Yep. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: So Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: people will use it more, and especially for the help functions, it will be good if we have scroll bar, scroll button. It will be necessary to have good help function, as well. Rosalia Conrad: So this is scroll. Rosalia Conrad: I think it was better to have this price list a bit earlier. Before Christine Miller: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: we went on to Christine Miller: Definitely. Rosalia Conrad: the Alice Mckay: The th Rosalia Conrad: to the whole design. But I'm glad we could make a bit. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: It's pretty different, if you Christine Miller: It's Rosalia Conrad: saw Christine Miller: pretty Rosalia Conrad: the Christine Miller: different. Rosalia Conrad: last one Christine Miller: But Rosalia Conrad: than this one. Christine Miller: this is not really like for the group we were making our remote. Alice Mckay: No. Christine Miller: This will really require a lot of marketing Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. It will. Christine Miller: to get this to sell. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: 'Cause Alice Mckay: But um Christine Miller: if older people like familiar forms and familiar stuff. This is not familiar for them. Rosalia Conrad: No, but Christine Miller: So Rosalia Conrad: I Christine Miller: we're Rosalia Conrad: think Christine Miller: gonna have to do a lotta convincing them. Rosalia Conrad: I think the most Alice Mckay: But they know the scroll-buttons from uh old radios. Uh they cal also uh buttons like that for uh Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: That's right. Alice Mckay: changing uh channels. So Rosalia Conrad: We can let Alice Mckay: maybe it's Rosalia Conrad: l Alice Mckay: uh Rosalia Conrad: We can stick it out, a bit. Like a old old Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: buttons. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Maybe that's recognisable for them as well. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. That's a good one. So, I'm afraid we have to move on. And it's uh it's b uh less frightening, I think. If they see this design they think oh, there are only five buttons, and uh Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: But Christine Miller: That's Rosalia Conrad: we Christine Miller: true. Rosalia Conrad: will see. Christine Miller: Might uh might be confusing too. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. That's Christine Miller: They'd Alice Mckay: Mm-hmm. Rosalia Conrad: definitely Christine Miller: be like, what? Rosalia Conrad: right. Christine Miller: Only five buttons? Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: But very special, so uh Rosalia Conrad: I would buy Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: it. Christine Miller: But you're not sixty. Rosalia Conrad: That's right. I would buy it if I was six. No I don't know. What it costs under twelve and a half Euros? No? Uh, yes they are. Alice Mckay: No. Rosalia Conrad: No. But we can go on with the project evaluation. Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Rosalia Conrad: Let's see. I can sit down I think. We still have fifteen minutes left, so we're nice on schedule. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Um, the project process. Christine Miller: So um, I like set up all these criteria. And Rosalia Conrad: Evaluation Christine Miller: evaluation Rosalia Conrad: criteria. Christine Miller: of the Rosalia Conrad: That's right. That was the Christine Miller: thingy. Rosalia Conrad: the point I forgot. I should There we are. Evaluation criteria. Christine Miller: Thank you. Rosalia Conrad: Go ahead. We've got five minutes I think for those criteria. Christine Miller: Five more minutes? Rosalia Conrad: No we've got fifteen minutes but Christine Miller: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: Uh yes. What? Christine Miller: 'Kay so I did some literature study study, and analysis of the requirements we set up earlier. Rosalia Conrad: Uh yeah. Christine Miller: Translated it into criteria, which would be these. Um, is the remote fancy? The shape, look and feel. Innovative? What new functions are there? Uh, easy to use? Uh, learnability is a very important factor here. Uh, is it functional? Are there not too many functions uh among the functions? And are the those functions that are there, are they useful? And the cost. The target group. Is the remote really for the group we're making it for? And recognability. If our company is If it is easily recognisable that our company made it? And So we're supposed to evaluate it right now. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Christine Miller: Let's see. Oh I have to say this was a little hard, because the minutes of our last meeting were not here. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah, that's Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: because my pen failed to upload his data. Christine Miller: Okay. Alice Mckay: Yeah? Rosalia Conrad: I Christine Miller: Interesting. Rosalia Conrad: tried to but it's uh it's giving errors by downloading Christine Miller: So Rosalia Conrad: the software. Alice Mckay: Mm. 'Kay. Christine Miller: Is the design fancy, on a scale of one to seven? Rosalia Conrad: I think it's fancy. Tracy Hampton: Six. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Uh six. Christine Miller: We all go for six? Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Six. Christine Miller: Good. Um, is the design innovative? Rosalia Conrad: Very. Alice Mckay: Mm. Christine Miller: I think so, with Alice Mckay: Sh Christine Miller: our L_C_D_ Rosalia Conrad: Subtitles, Christine Miller: screen, docking station, Rosalia Conrad: buttons. Christine Miller: scroll-buttons. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Seven. Christine Miller: Seven? Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. So we've got twenty cents for our docking station, huh? Christine Miller: Should be do-able. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. That's right. Christine Miller: Is the design easy to use? Alice Mckay: Mm. Not Rosalia Conrad: That's Alice Mckay: really. Rosalia Conrad: a bit dodgy. Christine Miller: Well Would be for us. But Alice Mckay: For old people Rosalia Conrad: I would Alice Mckay: I Rosalia Conrad: say Alice Mckay: I Rosalia Conrad: four. Tracy Hampton: Four Alice Mckay: W Tracy Hampton: or five. Rosalia Conrad: Four Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: or Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: five between. Alice Mckay: Four. Rosalia Conrad: Between four or five. Christine Miller: I'd go for four, too. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Is it functional? Christine Miller: Is the design functional? Um, do we have all functions that we want to include? Rosalia Conrad: Yes. Alice Mckay: N Yeah. Christine Miller: I think we do. Do we have too many functions? Tracy Hampton: No. Rosalia Conrad: No. Alice Mckay: No. Christine Miller: I don't think so. It's pretty slim. Rosalia Conrad: Think it's uh seven. Christine Miller: Seven. and do we um take care of the biggest frustrations of the remote control? Like it getting lost and Alice Mckay: Mm Christine Miller: R_S_I_ Tracy Hampton: Mm, we haven't Alice Mckay: m Tracy Hampton: thought of that one. Christine Miller: influences? Rosalia Conrad: It was. Christine Miller: Think we do. Rosalia Conrad: I had them worked out. Mm. They are ugly, not very functional, and getting lost. Christine Miller: Are the Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: production costs within the preset limits? Well they are now. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: Does the design fit the group of focus? Tracy Hampton: I think Alice Mckay: Mm, Tracy Hampton: that's a three. Alice Mckay: th yeah. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: No I think Christine Miller: I think Rosalia Conrad: with our Christine Miller: it doesn't. Rosalia Conrad: new Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: radio button, I think it's uh Alice Mckay: Uh Rosalia Conrad: I think it's better. Alice Mckay: We have to test Christine Miller: I don't Alice Mckay: it s Christine Miller: know. Alice Mckay: But Tracy Hampton: I still I think it's Christine Miller: I think Rosalia Conrad: I think Tracy Hampton: too Rosalia Conrad: it Tracy Hampton: m too fancy. Too too Christine Miller: I think Tracy Hampton: flashy. Christine Miller: a radio button is not exactly what older people expect to have a remote control. Alice Mckay: Uh, yeah, true. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. I would give it a four. Christine Miller: I'm not sure. I think I'd go for two. Alice Mckay: I go for three. So Rosalia Conrad: Then we have to do the three. It's the Christine Miller: 'Kay. Christine Miller: Is the company company recognisable? Rosalia Conrad: Yes Alice Mckay: Yeah Rosalia Conrad: it Alice Mckay: yeah. Christine Miller: Well, Rosalia Conrad: is. Christine Miller: we have the logo there. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: So Rosalia Conrad: And they wanna put fashion in their products. Uh in the slogan of the company. And we have the removable front cases. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: So, Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: I think it's very recognisable. Yep. Christine Miller: So that will be this. I was also supposed to calculate the score, but thought we would have another private Rosalia Conrad: We've got a calculate Christine Miller: thingy after Rosalia Conrad: it. Christine Miller: this. Rosalia Conrad: Mm? Tracy Hampton: Twendag Christine Miller: Is this Tracy Hampton: sieven Christine Miller: Like after Tracy Hampton: an Christine Miller: this, Tracy Hampton: twendag. Christine Miller: are we done? Or Rosalia Conrad: N We've gonna Christine Miller: We're gonna Rosalia Conrad: We're Christine Miller: go Rosalia Conrad: going Christine Miller: to our Rosalia Conrad: to Christine Miller: other Rosalia Conrad: evaluate Christine Miller: room again. Rosalia Conrad: it. Christine Miller: Well, anyhow. These are seven factors times seven is forty something. Two? No. Nine? Rosalia Conrad: Forty nine. Christine Miller: Uh, minus one. Minus three, minus four. Minus four. So that would be minus eight. Forty one Rosalia Conrad: Forty one. Christine Miller: out of forty nine. Rosalia Conrad: That's Around Christine Miller: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: eighty percent. What is it? Christine Miller: Guess I'll just type that in on the bottom here. Rosalia Conrad: That's eighty four percent. I Alice Mckay: Hmm. Rosalia Conrad: think that's a pretty nice score. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: Hmm. 'Kay. So that will be the evaluation. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Thank you. So, that brings us to the project evaluation. Yep. Thank you. Project process. Did we move through the right phases, you think? Along the process? Tracy Hampton: Yes. Alice Mckay: Yeah. But it Christine Miller: Think we should have a should have had the finance thingy a lot earlier. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: That's right. Christine Miller: In the design phase. Rosalia Conrad: So lack of information about prices. Christine Miller: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: That's Christine Miller: Definitely. Tracy Hampton: true. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Uh Okay. Satisfaction. Was there room for creativity? Christine Miller: No. Rosalia Conrad: No? Christine Miller: Not too much. No. Rosalia Conrad: It's because of the finance sheet. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: Yeah, there w there was enough Christine Miller: Yeah, Tracy Hampton: room, Christine Miller: true. Tracy Hampton: but the finance Christine Miller: But Rosalia Conrad: The Tracy Hampton: uh Rosalia Conrad: room Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: was Yeah. Christine Miller: And I would've liked to go for the younger users also. And just to be able to access internet and get something of your own. Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: Restrictions. Internet access. 'Kay. Leadership. Was it clear what everybody had to do uh according to their roles and functions? Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah? Christine Miller: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Teamwork? Did Alice Mckay: So Rosalia Conrad: it work out? Working together? Also, you two of you with the uh Tracy Hampton: Yes, was okay. Rosalia Conrad: last Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: phase? Nice. Tracy Hampton: The tasks are very structured, so you can just do step by step and Alice Mckay: Mm-hmm. Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Tracy Hampton: it's very easy. Rosalia Conrad: tasks. Okay. Were the means sufficient for the tasks uh we had to do? Or were they too much? Tracy Hampton: Well, Alice Mckay: Mm. Tracy Hampton: the smart-board, the d d drawing is just a pain in the ass, but Rosalia Conrad: Smart-board. Tracy Hampton: The digital the digital pen is very nice. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: If it wants Christine Miller: Yeah. Alice Mckay: But Rosalia Conrad: to download its uh Tracy Hampton: Yes. Christine Miller: Yeah. Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Uh Rosalia Conrad: data. Failed download. Smart-board was irritating. So you rather wanted to have a flip-over? Or something Tracy Hampton: A flip-over Rosalia Conrad: else? Alice Mckay: Yeah. A flipper's Tracy Hampton: or a more Alice Mckay: uh easier, Tracy Hampton: precise Alice Mckay: so Tracy Hampton: uh Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Faster Tracy Hampton: digit Rosalia Conrad: as well, Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: I think. Yeah. Flip-over. Alice Mckay: But if you want to share uh of uh when you make um a picture like this uh on the presentation, it's easier to uh share it with uh other people. Uh so uh you can sh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: save it uh and uh put it on the internet, or uh uh in shared f uh folder or uh sh uh shared Christine Miller: Yeah, Alice Mckay: directory. Christine Miller: I tried to Alice Mckay: So Christine Miller: open the file Alice Mckay: So Christine Miller: on my laptop, Alice Mckay: Yeah? Christine Miller: but Tracy Hampton: No. Alice Mckay: No? Tracy Hampton: Didn't work. Christine Miller: not possible. Rosalia Conrad: Uh you need a smart board uh Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: application I think. Alice Mckay: T can uh Rosalia Conrad: But Alice Mckay: can you Rosalia Conrad: I think Alice Mckay: export Rosalia Conrad: you can Alice Mckay: it uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: like a Rosalia Conrad: Should be possible. Christine Miller: no. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah you can export it as image. Must Yeah must be Christine Miller: Should've done that then. Rosalia Conrad: So the sharing of the information was uh was okay? Christine Miller: Pen is here. Tracy Hampton: Yes. Rosalia Conrad: Uh, network. Alice Mckay: Uh. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah, pen is here on the table. Alice Mckay: Uh, yeah. So you Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: can Uh Christine Miller: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: It's Alice Mckay: It's Rosalia Conrad: possible. Alice Mckay: possible. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Alice Mckay: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: That's nice. Have we found new ideas for having this kind of meetings? Or Alice Mckay: Um, yeah Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Um it's uh easier to uh to do the th things that are like that on a computer. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Uh, so uh just l uh Rosalia Conrad: So Alice Mckay: like uh at u university uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: So Rosalia Conrad: So everybody Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Rosalia Conrad: puts his own score. And Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: then Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: it mediates the score, and Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: you can get one Tracy Hampton: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. That's better. So that's uh How do we call? Rosalia Conrad: Evaluation criteria. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Mm, any more ideas? Or questions about the project? Or about the product? Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: Because I think then that we get to our last sheet. Are the costs within the budget? Alice Mckay: Mm yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: They are. Tracy Hampton: Considering Rosalia Conrad: Do we Tracy Hampton: we are not going to make a docking station. Rosalia Conrad: Docking station. That's a good point. But maybe because of the docking station the price of the remote can also be a little bit higher? Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Uh Tracy Hampton: Perhaps. Rosalia Conrad: and I think you can compensate that as well. Alice Mckay: Mm. Rosalia Conrad: So I think that shouldn't be the biggest problem, because it's very cheap to make as well. Tracy Hampton: Mm-hmm. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Do we think we gonna get the twelve and a half million? Or what was it? Christine Miller: Fifty grand. Rosalia Conrad: Fifteen fifteen million. I think we will. If we gonna export this product. It's Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: innovative. Especially in America. People are pretty decadent. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Mm. Rosalia Conrad: Sometimes. Christine Miller: Yeah, still I Alice Mckay: Yeah. Christine Miller: think I mean if we're n gonna make a scroll-button anyway Rosalia Conrad: You Christine Miller: it'd Rosalia Conrad: can Christine Miller: be Rosalia Conrad: do Christine Miller: more Rosalia Conrad: more. Christine Miller: for the younger people than for the older people. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Ah. Christine Miller: So maybe we should just re-focus. Rosalia Conrad: Just put it on the market for everybody. You Alice Mckay: Ah. Christine Miller: Or Rosalia Conrad: can Christine Miller: specifically for Rosalia Conrad: you Christine Miller: younger Rosalia Conrad: can change Christine Miller: people. Rosalia Conrad: markets where by changing the front covers. Alice Mckay: Ah. Rosalia Conrad: That's one thing you can Christine Miller: That's true. Rosalia Conrad: change it with. So you can also try to uh reach the younger people by uh putting fancy covers on on the market. Just as a test. See how it works. That's I think a good advantage. Christine Miller: Yeah, I think then it would be way more uh popular with younger people than it is, than would be with older people. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Christine Miller: Even if it were their covers. Alice Mckay: Hmm. Rosalia Conrad: Uh, uh Christine Miller: But Rosalia Conrad: then I think we can have our little celebration, right now. That's it. Christine Miller: Party party. Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. I think we still have to fit in one more questionnaire. Alice Mckay: Where's the champagne? Christine Miller: 'Kay. Rosalia Conrad: I think. I don't know. I didn't get a message from the from ending of the Alice Mckay: Uh, I believe y uh Rosalia Conrad: Oh Christine Miller: Oh Rosalia Conrad: I Christine Miller: you Rosalia Conrad: think Christine Miller: did. Rosalia Conrad: I have one now. Five more minutes? Oh that's Alice Mckay: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: nice. Then we still have some questions. If somebody has some questions they can ask them now. Or we can put these in the project folder as well. Christine Miller: Mm-hmm. Rosalia Conrad: Maybe that's Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Export as picture, I think. Christine Miller: Yeah. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Hmm. This is another network, I guess. Rosalia Conrad: Does somebody see the project folder? I don't. Hmm. My Documents. Alice Mckay: Uh maybe uh they will save it. So uh Rosalia Conrad: Yeah, I'll just Christine Miller: Yeah, Rosalia Conrad: put it Christine Miller: it Rosalia Conrad: in Christine Miller: probably Rosalia Conrad: My Documents Christine Miller: will. Rosalia Conrad: and uh That's okay. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. I think I'm going to make our final presentation now. Christine Miller: Oh yeah, you're supposed to make Rosalia Conrad: And then Christine Miller: a final Rosalia Conrad: I will be back in about ten minutes to show you the final presentation. Alice Mckay: Okay. Tracy Hampton: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: Summary of the project. Christine Miller: Are we supposed to go into our own rooms again? Alice Mckay: Uh maybe we have to fill uh another Rosalia Conrad: Yeah. Alice Mckay: questionnaire. Rosalia Conrad: Questionnaire. Alice Mckay: So uh Rosalia Conrad: I think you Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: all get a questionnaire in Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: in your room. Alice Mckay: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: And then I'll meet you in I think about ten minutes, Tracy Hampton: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: or something. Alice Mckay: Okay. Rosalia Conrad: Okay. Thank you. Hopefully my pen will download its software. Christine Miller: Yeah. Rosalia Conrad: Oh. Or data. Christine Miller: That'd be nice.	In the detailed design meeting the team created a prototype. Along with buttons for numbers, channel selector, volume, mute, on-off, teletext, and subtitles, the prototype included an LCD screen and a help button for functional information. One rechargable battery, single-curve form and plastic case, brought the total cost to 17 Euros. To reduce this cost, it was decided to replace most buttons with a scrollwheel. The remaining buttons were one for channel selection, one for volume (both assisted by the scrollwheel), teletext, on-off and the help button. A suggestion to target the product to a younger or perhaps more general group was met with approval. All these components were re-arranged in a revised prototype. It was evaluated on a scale from 1 to 7 on the basis of the following criteria: fancy design (6), technological innovation (4), functionality (7), consideration of the target group (3). The remote was also recognisable as a fashionable Real Reaction product. The project process was deemed well-structured, although everyone thought it would have been better had they known the component prices at an earlier stage. Teamword and leadership were good, but room for creativity impeded by budget constraints.	4	amisum	train
Vicki Balderama: Bonjour. Lina Campbell: It's It won't wake up. Yeah. I a bit early. Like Vicki Balderama: Why? Lina Campbell: What? No, I just came in. Uh normally I was one of them. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Lina Campbell: Come on. Vicki Balderama: Check check Frances Boice: Hello. Vicki Balderama: check Lina Campbell: Why Frances Boice: Oop. Lina Campbell: won't it wake up? Lina Campbell: Is it on? Vicki Balderama: The power light doesn't work. You turned it off. Lina Campbell: But how? Ah, there it is. Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: Uh. Alice Hoy: I received an email with uh a few on uh the. So I'll discuss them Frances Boice: Okay, we're Vicki Balderama: Okay. Frances Boice: just Alice Hoy: with you. Yeah. Frances Boice: to the later. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I received Frances Boice: So Lina Campbell: an Frances Boice: we're Lina Campbell: email Frances Boice: going to Lina Campbell: as Frances Boice: talk Lina Campbell: well. Frances Boice: about the conceptual model. Vicki Balderama: Oh. Vicki Balderama: Hmm. Lina Campbell: Which one was mine? Frances Boice: So that's Vicki Balderama. Uh okay. So Uh okay. Okay, so I just show you the m the no mm mm the the the the the the minutes, minute. What's it called, I dunno. Whatever. Lina Campbell: The minutes. Frances Boice: Okay, so we just talked about uh Oh you want Vicki Balderama to show that there or Vicki Balderama: Uh Lina Campbell: No, Alice Hoy: Mm Lina Campbell: just Alice Hoy: no. Lina Campbell: tell Frances Boice: Okay, Lina Campbell: us. Frances Boice: we just talked about it looks Has. to look nice. Usability is very important. People don't want to spend money on something that's similar to cheaper ones. Um It has to be very basic, not too many buttons. Light switches on if you use a button. Uh text T_V_ still has to be a possibility. And it has to be easy to learn. That were the things I uh make minutes of. And the functions are volume, channel to choose channels, an on-off, a mute uh button, and a text T_V_ button. That are the functions. That right? Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: Okay. So I just want to give you uh Mike again, the first uh presentation of your Vicki Balderama: Shall I start? Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: No. Okay well I received an email Okay. Vicki Balderama: I searched the web, uh and uh I searched uh on this d document, recent investigation of the remote control market. It has been done in Italy uh Italy and in uh another country in Europe, I forget it. but uh found out most important aspect for remote controls happens to be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look and feel. So it's very important for us to create something new. So what Michael just said, it must be uh some very different from ordinary uh remote controls. Fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and interface. Uh this uh aspect is the most important one. Uh it came out of the research. It uh is twice important as the following. The second uh most important aspect is that a remote control should it uh technological innovative. Uh that stands for uh uh new technical uh features. And then uh that uh This is a point of discussion, because we just decided that we don't make use of uh L_C_D_ or uh speech recognition. Lina Campbell: Hmm. Vicki Balderama: But um this is the second uh important uh aspect, and I think uh we must use some of the new technology, to be uh innovative. Frances Boice: But we already have the flashing flashing light on the Vicki Balderama: Uh maybe maybe something Lina Campbell: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: new. Lina Campbell: more. Vicki Balderama: We have Alice Hoy: Hmm. Vicki Balderama: to discuss about it s uh Lina Campbell: Well, Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: I'll I'll get back Vicki Balderama: Okay, Lina Campbell: on it. Vicki Balderama: uh features not uh do not exist in current remote controls. And that's very hard I think. Uh the third one is the aspect of the remote control should be easy to use. But uh that was an overall uh point. We already discussed that. Um I've got one picture. Uh d our our target group uh we thought about was young and trendy. Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: So I took uh that part of the webpage. And it says uh fashion-watchers of uh uh Pari uh France and uh Italy, yeah, uh have detected the following trends. This trends I th uh trend I think it's not um that meaningful for us, maybe. But it's about uh clothes and shoes. But the Frances Boice: Hmm. Vicki Balderama: uh the next uh aspect also in contrast to last year, the feel of material is expe uh uh is expected to be spongy. Lina Campbell: Spongy. Vicki Balderama: But spongy, what what does spongy Alice Hoy: Spongy. Vicki Balderama: says? Lina Campbell: Spongy, Vicki Balderama: Spongy. Lina Campbell: like sponge. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Alice Hoy: So rubber, kind of. Lina Campbell: Uh soft materials. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Frances Boice: But maybe th that's al definitely a good idea, because you've you're you drop y your remote control very often on the ground. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: So it has Lina Campbell: but Frances Boice: to be Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: flexible. Vicki Balderama: Yeah, it's something that uh it stand there. But I didn't knew uh knew what it means. So spongy means y Alice Hoy: It's like Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Alice Hoy: a sponge. Lina Campbell: Soft, sponge. Vicki Balderama: So it's also a stress-ball. Frances Boice: That's a good Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: That's a good Alice Hoy: somewhat Frances Boice: idea. If it's Alice Hoy: like Frances Boice: de like that. That's Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: good, a Lina Campbell: but Frances Boice: good idea. Lina Campbell: Yeah. How are Frances Boice: Is it Lina Campbell: you Frances Boice: a Lina Campbell: gonna Frances Boice: bit Lina Campbell: make Frances Boice: like Lina Campbell: it? Frances Boice: like the the the the remote control? R_ soft. Vicki Balderama: Uh Alice Hoy: Yeah, I've some uh material uh information, but I'll give you it later Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: in my presentation. Vicki Balderama: Okay? What do I think? Uh because a fancy look is the most important thing uh for remote control uh control, I think about changeable fronts. Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: Uh maybe a see-through one in a a fruit front. Because it's uh it's hot. And uh some basic uh colour fronts. Uh so we can make uh five different fronts to start with or something. Uh maybe an extraordinary shape, like a sponge. Uh or uh, yeah, just another shape than a normal uh remote control ha uh has. Just Lina Campbell: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: uh something round in it, or uh maybe not uh not uh Yeah, I dun dunno. We have to discuss about that. Uh y yeah. Main point uh still uh is the technolo technological innovative. Yeah, how do we do that? Maybe speech? We ma must have some kind of gadget. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I'll get back on that. Vicki Balderama: So Alice Hoy: Hmm. Frances Boice: It's very uh difficult to to Vicki Balderama: Intro Frances Boice: to Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Frances Boice: do it. Because it's only twelve and a half Euros you have to spend Vicki Balderama: Yeah, Frances Boice: on every Lina Campbell: Well, Vicki Balderama: that's Frances Boice: remote Vicki Balderama: the problem. Frances Boice: control. Vicki Balderama: That's Lina Campbell: I Vicki Balderama: the main Lina Campbell: got Vicki Balderama: problem. Lina Campbell: f also an email from Vicki Balderama: So Lina Campbell: the the technology department. Vicki Balderama: Maybe we watch the first Lina Campbell: They Vicki Balderama: uh Lina Campbell: have done Vicki Balderama: the next Lina Campbell: uh Vicki Balderama: two Lina Campbell: research Vicki Balderama: presentations. Lina Campbell: about it, and uh even more possibilities now with speech. So they recommended using it. Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: Well Alice Hoy: Hmm. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Uh let's Lina Campbell: I'll check what they exact Vicki Balderama: first Lina Campbell: mean. Vicki Balderama: watch Paul's presentation Lina Campbell: So Vicki Balderama: first then. Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: Yeah, well actually we have don't have an idea how much it's gonna cost. But maybe it's cheap Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: it's Lina Campbell: th that's Alice Hoy: to Lina Campbell: the Alice Hoy: implement. Lina Campbell: only problem. I d They don't say how much it will cost, so Um but uh if Vicki Balderama: Oh. Lina Campbell: we implement Vicki Balderama: It's mass production. Lina Campbell: uh speech Vicki Balderama: So you can Lina Campbell: recognition, Vicki Balderama: say, you can Lina Campbell: I think it would be better to implement L_C_D_ as well. Since you have to uh configure speech Frances Boice: But Lina Campbell: thing. Frances Boice: that's definitely more expensive than Lina Campbell: Yeah, that's that's something I dunno. Vicki Balderama: Yeah. But how uh we we're gonna make many of those. So we can start a mass production, and then Frances Boice: Yeah, but a Vicki Balderama: the Frances Boice: telephone Vicki Balderama: cost will still Frances Boice: Okay, Vicki Balderama: will be. Frances Boice: yeah. But a telephone also have a L_C_D_ and Lina Campbell: Yeah, so uh we Frances Boice: and Lina Campbell: gotta Frances Boice: it's about Lina Campbell: de Frances Boice: t two hundred Euros. So uh Lina Campbell: We have to decide Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: on that. Vicki Balderama: Okay. That was this? Lina Campbell: Mm uh Alice Hoy: Oh I got an email uh And it says uh the chip can be uh simple, regular or advanced. And Um They say uh a display requires an advanced chip. And this is more expensive than all the other chips. So it's m Lina Campbell: L_D_C_ Alice Hoy: the most Lina Campbell: doesn't Alice Hoy: expensive. Lina Campbell: require Alice Hoy: Yeah, it says in the email. The display requires an advanced chip. Lina Campbell: Okay. And speech recognition? Alice Hoy: Yeah, probably too. Lina Campbell: Advanced. Alice Hoy: I I haven't Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: got anything about speech recognition, but Lina Campbell: I'll I'll give Alice Hoy: Well Lina Campbell: you my Alice Hoy: it d Lina Campbell: design. Alice Hoy: That's that's the most expensive chip, we need. If we're doing uh Lina Campbell: Yeah Alice Hoy: if Lina Campbell: okay. Alice Hoy: we're doing Lina Campbell: So Alice Hoy: a Lina Campbell: we Alice Hoy: display. Lina Campbell: Well we can Lina Campbell: I had uh to make a sort of a design. So I did some searching on the internet. I watched the old remote controls and news com remote como uh remote controls. I think we should um This is one of the modern remote controls of the moment. I think we should go more to the iPod and M_P_ three players. Frances Boice: Yeah, just Lina Campbell: Mobile phones. Frances Boice: modern modern but still Lina Campbell: More modern. Frances Boice: uh basic. Lina Campbell: Y yes. Um you probably have to make it a bit bigger and a bit smaller. 'Cause remote con control, you can see it here, you have to bo reach both out both sides. And here you just have one, few buttons. So that's that's the main difference. But looks uh I definitely think we should go like this. And then changeable fonts, so Alice Hoy: Hmm. Lina Campbell: It's the most important part, I think. But And the home base is something like that, something simple. Well and then I just ordered the the buttons a bit. Uh basic buttons. On-off, mute. And th maybe two others, I dunno. Frances Boice: Yeah, Lina Campbell: Text Frances Boice: maybe Lina Campbell: buttons. Frances Boice: the teletext Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: tel Lina Campbell: text button, maybe there and there. And then the colour buttons, if we want it on. I don't find it very usable, but Vicki Balderama: No, Frances Boice: No. Vicki Balderama: I don't Lina Campbell: it's Uh I don't think it's Vicki Balderama: uh I don't like Lina Campbell: fits in Vicki Balderama: it. Lina Campbell: the the modern theme as well. Alice Hoy: Hmm. Lina Campbell: So and then yeah we saw the the pla display, in the the iPod. They can put the basic buttons, one, two, three, four. And uh f above ten. And Alice Hoy: But it Lina Campbell: I think Alice Hoy: That's on on the display. Lina Campbell: No no. That th there is no display there. But it's on the place of the display. And I think we should uh light this up much more than that part. So Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: the focus is on these two parts. Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: So you don't see all the buttons you else Frances Boice: But Lina Campbell: need. Frances Boice: it sounds very difficult to use. Because um the volume and channel is on the on Lina Campbell: Uh Frances Boice: the Lina Campbell: well Frances Boice: the bottom Lina Campbell: um Frances Boice: of it. So you can't use your thumb for it. Lina Campbell: This is how it is now. Um Here uh Well we have volume. Alice Hoy: I think Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: it is Frances Boice: down Alice Hoy: on Frances Boice: there. Alice Hoy: uh on the bottom too. Frances Boice: But it's not not the Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: best best. Lina Campbell: Well here we have also side scrolls. I dunno Alice Hoy: Yeah, Lina Campbell: if we can Alice Hoy: okay. Lina Campbell: use that. Frances Boice: Yeah, Lina Campbell: Do Alice Hoy: Yeah, Lina Campbell: we Frances Boice: for Lina Campbell: want Frances Boice: volume. Alice Hoy: I've Lina Campbell: to use Alice Hoy: I've got something of Frances Boice: For volume, Alice Hoy: that uh too. Frances Boice: or a channel. Yeah, Lina Campbell: For Frances Boice: why Lina Campbell: volume? Frances Boice: not. Lina Campbell: Well then Alice Hoy: Scroll. Lina Campbell: we can even simplify it more. By just putting the volume on the side. And Frances Boice: And the channels Lina Campbell: and Frances Boice: as well. Lina Campbell: just channel buttons here. Frances Boice: Oh yeah. Alice Hoy: Yeah, Lina Campbell: But Alice Hoy: or Lina Campbell: I think Alice Hoy: uh Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: maybe uh The channel buttons are often used. And you can't use them now with your thumb, because the thing is not, it's Lina Campbell: Well. Alice Hoy: not easy to Lina Campbell: Yeah, well it's Alice Hoy: control. Lina Campbell: Basically it's it's here. Alice Hoy: Yeah okay, m maybe we cho should put that on top, and Frances Boice: Yeah, that's Alice Hoy: buttons Frances Boice: better. Alice Hoy: we Lina Campbell: They're Alice Hoy: we Lina Campbell: on Alice Hoy: don't Lina Campbell: top? Alice Hoy: use on, in Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: the bottom. Frances Boice: just th th th other buttons like text T_V_. Put that on the button bottom. Alice Hoy: Because uh Lina Campbell: You mean Alice Hoy: you Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: can't hold it. Lina Campbell: these Alice Hoy: You can't Frances Boice: Mm-hmm. Alice Hoy: hold Lina Campbell: to the Alice Hoy: it Lina Campbell: low? Alice Hoy: th the Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: control and push the buttons. Frances Boice: Except from the on-off button. Lina Campbell: Oh okay. Well, yeah. Alice Hoy: But I I think w you'll use uh the switch channels buttons uh more often than the normal uh channel buttons, like one two three. So maybe we can Lina Campbell: Mm Alice Hoy: put that on the bottom. Lina Campbell: Maybe. I dunno, but yeah we'll Alice Hoy: Like zapping is just switching Lina Campbell: Yeah, maybe Alice Hoy: one channel Lina Campbell: it's not Alice Hoy: at a time. Lina Campbell: easy if it's below. It's harder to zap. So I think uh it should be should be easy to. I think it's pretty standard, these rubber buttons on the top. Alice Hoy: Yeah okay. That's Lina Campbell: And Alice Hoy: that's good, Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: but Lina Campbell: if you don't light 'em up, they don't uh you don't see 'em very good. I think it's modern to light this area up, and to light this area up. So the focus gets on these parts and not on there. Alice Hoy: Yeah okay. Lina Campbell: But uh the position of course can be different. It's s We have to look uh what's easy to use, and how it's easier to use. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: So we can uh switch these to Alice Hoy: Hmm. Lina Campbell: I dunno if it l will look good, if you put those on t on the bottom half. Alice Hoy: No, I think th the the top buttons are okay. Lina Campbell: Okay. Alice Hoy: They sh Those should be on top. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: But Lina Campbell: maybe Alice Hoy: uh we we can switch those two, Lina Campbell: Those Alice Hoy: yeah. Lina Campbell: two, yeah. And uh, yeah, you have to make sure it's easy to uh Yes, it has to be big enough so you can hold it, Vicki Balderama: Okay. Lina Campbell: right. Well that's that's my findings. So uh my personal opinion is that we should go more modern look. M_P_ three player. And uh well um if, we I don't think we should put it on top then. I think that, if we're gonna put in more technology, that you need to be able to uh switch it open. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: To Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: use Frances Boice: Yeah, that's cool. Lina Campbell: So if you put in uh speech recognition, you need so more uh many more buttons. Which won't look good on the front side I think. Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: No. Lina Campbell: So that's something we have to decide on. Alice Hoy: Yeah, we have to keep it simple. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: We have to decide this this lecture, or this this this uh Lina Campbell: What we're gonna do. Frances Boice: fifty minutes, yeah, Lina Campbell: Okay. Frances Boice: how it is gonna look. Alice Hoy: Okay, the component design. I looked at uh some similar devices, and uh my own common knowledge. So uh this was on the web site. If you aim at a young public, you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green, blue, red. So flashy kinda colours. Uh shapes should be curved, so round shapes. Not Nothing square-like. Frances Boice: Okay, so Hmm, okay. Lina Campbell: Yeah well uh iPod is trendy. And Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: it is well curved Vicki Balderama: Square. Lina Campbell: square. Vicki Balderama: Like. Alice Hoy: Yeah, but mm is uh has round corners I Lina Campbell: Okay. Alice Hoy: think. Lina Campbell: So Alice Hoy: So Lina Campbell: not Alice Hoy: we shouldn't have too square corners Lina Campbell: Yeah Alice Hoy: and Lina Campbell: okay. Alice Hoy: that Lina Campbell: Not Alice Hoy: kind of Lina Campbell: uh the Alice Hoy: thing. Lina Campbell: old uh Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: box look. Alice Hoy: And um sports and gaming device style characteristics. I don't know exactly what that means, but it should be, well yeah, popular kind of Vicki Balderama: Mm. Alice Hoy: looking, Frances Boice: Yeah, we have to Alice Hoy: I think. Frances Boice: put our Real Reaction logo as well on the Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: on the remote control. Lina Campbell: Mm Yeah, Frances Boice: So the Lina Campbell: it's Frances Boice: colours also. So we have ha to ma make it in black, black, yellow. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Black yellow control. Frances Boice: Maybe the sides Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: in Alice Hoy: mm Frances Boice: yellow Alice Hoy: n Frances Boice: and the the the top in Alice Hoy: Not Frances Boice: black. Alice Hoy: that weird, because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy, to attract a young public. Lina Campbell: Yeah, but uh I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together. But Alice Hoy: No, Frances Boice: We Alice Hoy: okay. Frances Boice: make i Maybe Alice Hoy: That's Frances Boice: you can Alice Hoy: a Frances Boice: put Alice Hoy: that's Frances Boice: yellow Alice Hoy: a sen Frances Boice: on the side and black on the on the front. Alice Hoy: That's just a matter of tastes, but Lina Campbell: Yeah, okay. Alice Hoy: We have to use uh kind of flashy colours, Lina Campbell: Uh can't Alice Hoy: I think. Lina Campbell: we use um different uh fron uh fronts, with all with the the logo on it? Alice Hoy: Yeah. Frances Boice: Yeah, Lina Campbell: Can Frances Boice: it's Lina Campbell: we Frances Boice: cool. Lina Campbell: do that? Frances Boice: Yep. Alice Hoy: Like Lina Campbell: So Alice Hoy: fronts Frances Boice: And Alice Hoy: in in Frances Boice: still Alice Hoy: red Frances Boice: trans Alice Hoy: and yellow Lina Campbell: Yes. Alice Hoy: and blue and Vicki Balderama: Oh yeah. Lina Campbell: So Frances Boice: Still still transparent. Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: Yeah. But with all with logo on it. Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: Well this is a remote control, a very old one. Um Then the components. The case has just a Here's black. But Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: we Frances Boice: we Alice Hoy: are Frances Boice: make Alice Hoy: making Frances Boice: it som Alice Hoy: it uh Frances Boice: Maybe we have to make it from soft material. Uh I'm not sure. Alice Hoy: Yeah, I dunno. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Maybe. But anyways uh it should be transparent. We decided that, huh? Lina Campbell: Well Alice Hoy: S Lina Campbell: one of the options. You can Just like a mobile phone, you can make um Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: different fronts on it. So you can just replace them I think. Alice Hoy: Yeah, we could Lina Campbell: That Alice Hoy: do Lina Campbell: was Alice Hoy: that. Lina Campbell: the idea, or just uh Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: release one. Frances Boice: Just give five with them, just in a box. Five Lina Campbell: Yeah, uh Frances Boice: different Lina Campbell: Or just Alice Hoy: Yeah, but Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: y you Lina Campbell: sell Alice Hoy: could Lina Campbell: different ones. Alice Hoy: you could make 'em uh uh like blue and transparent. So you Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: can still Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: Cool. Alice Hoy: th look Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: through it. Um the buttons. Normal rubber I think. Like normal ordinary buttons. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: Soft. Lina Campbell: I uh I dunno. Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: A more Frances Boice: It it could be like a Nokia, like Lina Campbell: Yeah, just Frances Boice: plastic. Vicki Balderama: Uh uh Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: With the Frances Boice: That's Alice Hoy: hard Frances Boice: better Alice Hoy: hard Frances Boice: prob Alice Hoy: buttons. Lina Campbell: I think Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: uh rubber really has an odd look. Alice Hoy: Okay. Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls, uh the buttons are part of the uh the style, I think is part of the remote control itself. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape. Uh it's n doesn't Is uh a button uh um How do you say it? Alice Hoy: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: It Alice Hoy: it's Vicki Balderama: it Alice Hoy: it's Vicki Balderama: didn't Alice Hoy: all Vicki Balderama: it Alice Hoy: on Vicki Balderama: i Alice Hoy: one Vicki Balderama: it Alice Hoy: level. Vicki Balderama: don't come out of the Alice Hoy: Yeah, on Vicki Balderama: on Alice Hoy: one Vicki Balderama: the background. Alice Hoy: level. Vicki Balderama: It is in uh the c a remote Lina Campbell: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: control uh Alice Hoy: Yeah, I know what you mean. So we have to keep it on the one level. Like Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah, like mobile Alice Hoy: th the Lina Campbell: phones. Alice Hoy: top it's Lina Campbell: Like Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: uh the iPod. Uh just Alice Hoy: Yeah, okay. Okay, Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: it's chos Frances Boice: that's cool. Alice Hoy: So that should be hard plastic. Then the buttons? I think. Or Lina Campbell: I Alice Hoy: maybe Lina Campbell: dunno what uh kind of material it is. But Frances Boice: But Alice Hoy: Yeah. Frances Boice: maybe you can m make a uh round fluff or soft material. Just only the Lina Campbell: Oops. Frances Boice: basic uh basic remote control from normal plastic, and Alice Hoy: Yeah. Frances Boice: the rounds of it from softer s Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: And um Frances Boice: I dunno. Alice Hoy: Then the L_E_D_. The normal infrared L_E_D_ I think s sufficient. And back light L_E_D_s. Frances Boice: Y Alice Hoy: So Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: Cool. Alice Hoy: But I think we have to make the case transparent, otherwise the back light won't work. So if you put Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Uh you Frances Boice: Y i Lina Campbell: can Frances Boice: if you Lina Campbell: just Frances Boice: The numbers Lina Campbell: make them around Frances Boice: could be Lina Campbell: the buttons Frances Boice: can be Yeah, Lina Campbell: uh Frances Boice: that's Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: right. Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: Or it runs the whole Alice Hoy: Yeah, but we can still make it transparent. So Frances Boice: They can Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: choose. Lina Campbell: you Alice Hoy: Or Lina Campbell: can Alice Hoy: no Lina Campbell: halfs transparent, or just that it's comes out a bit. Alice Hoy: Yeah okay. Good. And in green colour, the back lights or Lina Campbell: Different, I think, also. Alice Hoy: Yeah? Frances Boice: Blue. Lina Campbell: Blue or red. Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Whatever you want it, I think. Uh depends on the colour Frances Boice: Yeah, but Lina Campbell: of Frances Boice: you Lina Campbell: the Frances Boice: can't choo You Vicki Balderama: Uh Frances Boice: can't choose Vicki Balderama: i Frances Boice: it when you buy it. You Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: have Lina Campbell: that's Frances Boice: to Lina Campbell: true. Frances Boice: choose Lina Campbell: But Alice Hoy: No, but I think there are multiple colour LEDs. So Frances Boice: Is it Vicki Balderama: Yeah, Frances Boice: Okay. Vicki Balderama: but can you change Alice Hoy: I I Vicki Balderama: it Alice Hoy: know Vicki Balderama: if you already Alice Hoy: I dunno. Is Vicki Balderama: bought the the Lina Campbell: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: remote Lina Campbell: it Vicki Balderama: control? Lina Campbell: can. Vicki Balderama: You Lina Campbell: 'Cause this Frances Boice: Yeah, okay. Lina Campbell: a mo mib uh mobile Alice Hoy: Maybe Lina Campbell: phone Alice Hoy: it's Lina Campbell: as Alice Hoy: it's Lina Campbell: well. Alice Hoy: more impor Frances Boice: Maybe Alice Hoy: more Frances Boice: put some different Alice Hoy: expensive. Frances Boice: ones in it. Doesn't Alice Hoy: I Frances Boice: matter. Alice Hoy: think Frances Boice: It's Alice Hoy: it's Frances Boice: just Lina Campbell: I have Frances Boice: No, Lina Campbell: the mo Frances Boice: just Lina Campbell: mi Frances Boice: some Lina Campbell: I Frances Boice: LED. Lina Campbell: have a blinking light on my phone. And I can change the colour of it. Frances Boice: Okay, cool. Just make it some different colours. Blue, red and green, or something. Alice Hoy: Yeah, I dunno. Maybe it's too expensive, but it Lina Campbell: Well, Alice Hoy: I th Lina Campbell: we don't Alice Hoy: I don't Lina Campbell: put Alice Hoy: think so. Lina Campbell: put in any fancier technology yet. Vicki Balderama: Hmm. Lina Campbell: So Alice Hoy: Then uh some more technical things. I don't know what it is, Um this is the normal circuit board, like a chip board in in a lot of uh things. Frances Boice: Yeah, we have to hurry Alice Hoy: W Frances Boice: up a bit, Alice Hoy: So Frances Boice: so Alice Hoy: we d we just need this and this transistors and resonators. There's all these kind of things. Um Lina Campbell: I'm Alice Hoy: they Lina Campbell: sure Alice Hoy: they basically Lina Campbell: we can fit Alice Hoy: said Lina Campbell: in. Alice Hoy: that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls. So I guess we j we just need that. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: I don't know what they do or Vicki Balderama: Okay Lina Campbell: Yeah okay. Vicki Balderama: yeah, Lina Campbell: We just Vicki Balderama: you can you can change Yeah. No. Alice Hoy: Nah, but they just said we need it. Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: Uh the battery contacts, like normal batteries ca you can put Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: in. Frances Boice: a recharger maybe. Lina Campbell: Yeah, we Alice Hoy: Yeah Lina Campbell: have to Alice Hoy: okay. Lina Campbell: make sure Alice Hoy: Yeah Frances Boice: We Lina Campbell: to Frances Boice: still Lina Campbell: uh Alice Hoy: but Frances Boice: want to have a recharger, don't we? Is Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: that still Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: the Alice Hoy: Yeah, but it i We don't wanna have a ar an How do you call it? Accu. Frances Boice: A recha Oh no. Lina Campbell: Re recharger. Alice Hoy: Y Frances Boice: Uh Lina Campbell: Base Alice Hoy: uh Frances Boice: Battery. Alice Hoy: just Lina Campbell: station. Frances Boice: It's Alice Hoy: just Frances Boice: just a Alice Hoy: batteries, Frances Boice: battery. Alice Hoy: rechargeable Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: batteries. Lina Campbell: batteries. Yes, rechargeable Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: batteries, I think's best. Alice Hoy: Not a separate Frances Boice: No, just Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: rechargeable batteries. Alice Hoy: And uh a chip, that's this one. Then uh I received some possibilities. Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh Like with the pulse watch. So it operates Vicki Balderama: Ah Alice Hoy: on Vicki Balderama: cool. Alice Hoy: your wrist kinda. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Lina Campbell: So if you Alice Hoy: If Lina Campbell: hold Alice Hoy: you Frances Boice: But Alice Hoy: hold Lina Campbell: it, Frances Boice: normally Alice Hoy: it. Lina Campbell: it gets Frances Boice: you Lina Campbell: powered. Frances Boice: put a remote control on the table Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: or Alice Hoy: I don't Frances Boice: on the Alice Hoy: think it will work, Frances Boice: couch. Alice Hoy: and Or we can also use solar cells. But you mostly Frances Boice: It's dark Alice Hoy: use Frances Boice: in Alice Hoy: it Frances Boice: the room. Alice Hoy: indoors, Frances Boice: No. It's Alice Hoy: so Frances Boice: just batteries, that's cheaper. Alice Hoy: Yeah, and and we can use the home station kind of thing. Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Um cases, flat, so uncurved. Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back. And three D_ curved is also in depth. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Alice Hoy: So that's possible. Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls, we must use rubber buttons. So we can't Lina Campbell: Mm. Alice Hoy: use the flat Lina Campbell: So Alice Hoy: buttons. Lina Campbell: we need uh two D_. Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: I think. Frances Boice: Definitely. Alice Hoy: Um these kinda materials can be used. Frances Boice: But it doesn't really matter, we just make it plastic. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Yeah, I think so too. Frances Boice: The scroll wheels, that's cool. That's for the volume. Alice Hoy: Yeah, scroll wheels um Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Yeah, that's good. We can use multiple scroll wheels, w if we want to. But I Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: think just the volume is enough. Lina Campbell: Uh For channels it's not Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: handy, because you scroll too fast. Alice Hoy: And uh the L_C_D_. So we need Vicki Balderama: Mm Alice Hoy: uh the expensive, most expensive chip, if we use an L_C_D_. Frances Boice: I don't think that's an opportunity. Just skip it. that to Alice Hoy: Okay, then we Frances Boice: to put it Alice Hoy: we Frances Boice: in. Alice Hoy: use m must use the second most expensive chip. So th so the regular chip. Because we use scroll wheels. Frances Boice: Yeah, okay. Lina Campbell: Okay. Alice Hoy: And um Yeah, that was it I Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: guess. Uh are are we using a a rubber case, or Frances Boice: Oh Alice Hoy: We haven't Frances Boice: just Alice Hoy: decided Frances Boice: sk Maybe Alice Hoy: yet. Frances Boice: you have to skip that one as well. It's Lina Campbell: Uh I don't think Vicki Balderama: Uh Lina Campbell: a rubber Alice Hoy: L Lina Campbell: case Alice Hoy: Yeah, i Lina Campbell: looks Vicki Balderama: but we Alice Hoy: it Vicki Balderama: have Alice Hoy: it should Vicki Balderama: to Alice Hoy: be Vicki Balderama: do Alice Hoy: soft. Vicki Balderama: something about the trend. Alice Hoy: You said so? Vicki Balderama: The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh. Lina Campbell: Yeah, okay. That Vicki Balderama: And Lina Campbell: Uh fruit Vicki Balderama: uh now Lina Campbell: and Vicki Balderama: we Lina Campbell: veg, Vicki Balderama: have nothing Lina Campbell: or Vicki Balderama: about uh about those those two. Lina Campbell: Yeah, fruit and veg can be just the covers. Vicki Balderama: Uh yeah i Just Lina Campbell: So you can Vicki Balderama: Just on front. Lina Campbell: the the spongy yeah, I dunno. I can't imagine Frances Boice: No. Lina Campbell: a soft remote control. Frances Boice: No. Lina Campbell: I just can't imagine it. Alice Hoy: So just hard plastic? Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Okay. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I think. Titanium. It's mentioned here uh. Alice Hoy: Titanium, uh I think it's too expensive. Frances Boice: But maybe the form has to be a bit different. Not the sh the square form. Just a bit Alice Hoy: Yeah, you can make Frances Boice: more Alice Hoy: it curved Frances Boice: rounded. Alice Hoy: or Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: mm round. But just in two D_, not Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: in depth. Frances Boice: Yeah, that's Lina Campbell: Okay. Frances Boice: right. Frances Boice: So We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these. What exactly. Because we have to know it. So the energy uh is the recharger. We already know that. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: Just Lina Campbell: We Frances Boice: a Lina Campbell: have Frances Boice: normal Lina Campbell: batteries. Frances Boice: battery. Okay. The chip-on-print is a normal one. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Regular. Frances Boice: Okay, the case is just a plastic Alice Hoy: Yeah Frances Boice: one. Alice Hoy: th yeah, the chip is the the regular Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: one. You Frances Boice: re Alice Hoy: have Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: the simple Frances Boice: regular. Alice Hoy: one, regular Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: and Frances Boice: okay. Alice Hoy: advanced. So it's Frances Boice: Yeah, Alice Hoy: b should Frances Boice: regular. Alice Hoy: be regular uh the second. Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: I think I'll just Frances Boice: And Alice Hoy: check Frances Boice: we Alice Hoy: it. Frances Boice: need a plastic case, with a scroll wheel. Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: That's pretty much it. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: User Frances Boice: And Lina Campbell: interface Frances Boice: a flashy Lina Campbell: concept. Frances Boice: light. So uh I'm not sure. But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment. But Lina Campbell: I dunno either. Alice Hoy: Mm. Or should we Lina Campbell: Uh Alice Hoy: do it in the next meeting? Lina Campbell: I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board. Frances Boice: Yeah. Alice Hoy: So Frances Boice: That's Alice Hoy: we Frances Boice: for Alice Hoy: should Frances Boice: the next Alice Hoy: did it Frances Boice: one. Alice Hoy: here? Lina Campbell: So Frances Boice: That's for Lina Campbell: we're Frances Boice: th Lina Campbell: staying here? Alice Hoy: Or should we Frances Boice: Uh Alice Hoy: do it in the Frances Boice: that Alice Hoy: next Frances Boice: I Alice Hoy: meeting? Frances Boice: think that's the next next meeting. Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: But you definitely get a specific instruction. Lina Campbell: Okay, so Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: now we're ka thirty minutes alone again? Frances Boice: But th think about something that's more rounded. Just And more Lina Campbell: Yeah, uh Frances Boice: It has Lina Campbell: I dunno. Frances Boice: to be Lina Campbell: But the iPod and etcetera, M_P_ three players, mobile phones. Frances Boice: Uh a bit. Just just on the top Lina Campbell: Just Frances Boice: or on the Lina Campbell: a bit Frances Boice: bottom. Lina Campbell: cur Okay, I'll see if I can see any of those. Frances Boice: Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this. O um if you draw it like this, you get a What the fuck is it? Okay. Mm Doesn't work. You see what I mean? If I draw here Alice Hoy: What? Frances Boice: It draws about four centimetres Alice Hoy: Oh. Frances Boice: lower than Nah okay. Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: Just. Maybe you can make it like this. And this is all the wheel for volume. So that you just um It's all rounded, so you can do Alice Hoy: Like a Frances Boice: uh Alice Hoy: very Frances Boice: turn Alice Hoy: big Frances Boice: this one. Alice Hoy: scroll-wheel. Frances Boice: Yeah, but just not on the top, but uh on the side of it. Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: Maybe, I dunno. Alice Hoy: Hmm. Frances Boice: Okay, so we have this at the moment. Alice Hoy: I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when Lina Campbell: Yeah, you Alice Hoy: it's not wanted. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: Okay, so we'd have this. Is that okay? Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: I Lina Campbell: that's Alice Hoy: think Lina Campbell: a little Alice Hoy: it's Lina Campbell: problem, Alice Hoy: probably Lina Campbell: of course, Alice Hoy: better. Lina Campbell: as well. Frances Boice: And Alice Hoy: Yeah, but maybe we can make a a plastic, so that you i if you like drop it, it won't change the volume. Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: Only Lina Campbell: maybe Alice Hoy: if you Lina Campbell: you just Alice Hoy: use your Lina Campbell: have to Alice Hoy: finger. Lina Campbell: make it uh That's not scrollable too easy. Frances Boice: Like this. And uh what's the channel choose? Where do we uh put that? Alice Hoy: I think in Frances Boice: Still Alice Hoy: middle. Frances Boice: on the bottom or Lina Campbell: Uh wh what is the middle part? Frances Boice: That's the numbers. Alice Hoy: Uh I Lina Campbell: Numbers, Alice Hoy: think th the Lina Campbell: okay. Alice Hoy: numbers should be in the bottom, and and the switch channel in the middle. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I agree as well. Use the Frances Boice: It Lina Campbell: dz Frances Boice: doesn't make a difference, if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other. Because you already have the volume here, so You can also put it here one butt and the other one there. Next to each other. Lina Campbell: Yeah, that's Frances Boice: back Lina Campbell: right. Frances Boice: and forth. So you can also can put it all on the top, and this, you keep this empty. Because you have to hold it as well. Alice Hoy: Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button Frances Boice: But that's Alice Hoy: below. Frances Boice: not want to zap very quick, so Lina Campbell: Yeah, Alice Hoy: Yeah, Lina Campbell: I Alice Hoy: okay. Lina Campbell: think uh zapping Frances Boice: Yeah? Lina Campbell: is the highest priority. And then you use those Frances Boice: Is Lina Campbell: uh Frances Boice: this a opportunity, or you don't want Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: a different Lina Campbell: of course uh. Alice Hoy: Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other, so Frances Boice: Why? Alice Hoy: Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the Frances Boice: But still Alice Hoy: the Frances Boice: the Alice Hoy: up Frances Boice: next It's still the next one. Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: Doesn't Alice Hoy: but the top Frances Boice: make Alice Hoy: the top button is is like you switch channel up, and down button is Frances Boice: Yeah, but fo Alice Hoy: If you put Frances Boice: from Alice Hoy: them Frances Boice: left to right is exactly the same. Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: It ma it doesn't make Lina Campbell: I Frances Boice: a big Lina Campbell: I Frances Boice: difference. Lina Campbell: think it's Alice Hoy: But Lina Campbell: It's Alice Hoy: uh but Lina Campbell: it's obvious, Alice Hoy: I I think Lina Campbell: I think. Alice Hoy: uh left to right is more often associated with volume, and top down is more with uh Vicki Balderama: Yeah, Alice Hoy: channel changing. Vicki Balderama: that's not not Frances Boice: But it's Alice Hoy: In Vicki Balderama: It's Frances Boice: exactly Alice Hoy: uh Vicki Balderama: not Alice Hoy: On Vicki Balderama: al Alice Hoy: most Vicki Balderama: uh always Frances Boice: th Alice Hoy: on most Vicki Balderama: the same. Alice Hoy: remote Vicki Balderama: Every Alice Hoy: controls. Vicki Balderama: remote control's Lina Campbell: Yeah, I think Vicki Balderama: uh Alice Hoy: So so if we Vicki Balderama: different. Alice Hoy: use that, they will probably have a long learning uh time. Frances Boice: I dunno. Lina Campbell: No, Frances Boice: I You Lina Campbell: uh Frances Boice: already Lina Campbell: I Frances Boice: have Lina Campbell: think Frances Boice: the volume on the side, so you can't make it you can't ma make a Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: mistake. So it's Lina Campbell: I think Frances Boice: uh Lina Campbell: it's s so Alice Hoy: I Lina Campbell: simple Alice Hoy: dunno. Lina Campbell: you just Alice Hoy: Okay. Frances Boice: So but that's for that's for you, 'cause Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: it's Lina Campbell: okay I'll d I'll take a look at it. Frances Boice: Okay, so hmm. What did What else we have to discuss about? I dunno. Lina Campbell: Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again? Vicki Balderama: Yeah, we have to care that it r uh looks really new. Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: remote control. 'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside. Frances Boice: And the Lina Campbell: No, Frances Boice: LED. Lina Campbell: you have uh Alice Hoy: Yeah, but i Lina Campbell: It Alice Hoy: i it Lina Campbell: is Alice Hoy: should be round in Lina Campbell: Uh Alice Hoy: in shape. Lina Campbell: the current Alice Hoy: So Lina Campbell: uh controllers are all black and plastic. You have to look at that image of the iPod. Vicki Balderama: Yes. Lina Campbell: More Vicki Balderama: Okay. Lina Campbell: that uh kind of style. Vicki Balderama: And a bit uh Lina Campbell: Not not the old grey Frances Boice: Uh Lina Campbell: black Vicki Balderama: Some some Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: kind of bling bling uh Lina Campbell: Where Vicki Balderama: mm Lina Campbell: you can put a ve Vicki Balderama: can we have Lina Campbell: Uh we have If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo. Frances Boice: Yeah. Uh the logo was has to be on there. Yeah, that's right. Vicki Balderama: Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then? Uh five or something? Frances Boice: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: Or more Frances Boice: five. Vicki Balderama: or Frances Boice: Let's give five. Lina Campbell: Maybe you can buy separate ones Vicki Balderama: And Lina Campbell: and uh Vicki Balderama: um uh uh buy the product. You buy, you get one. And uh basic. Or you Lina Campbell: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: can Lina Campbell: Um Vicki Balderama: choose one uh Lina Campbell: I think Vicki Balderama: if you buy Lina Campbell: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: the project. Alice Hoy: No, Lina Campbell: That's Alice Hoy: tha Lina Campbell: your Alice Hoy: that Lina Campbell: choice, Alice Hoy: will be Lina Campbell: I think huh. Frances Boice: So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger? Is that is that a good good opportunity? Lina Campbell: Yes. Alice Hoy: Yeah, Frances Boice: So you Alice Hoy: so Frances Boice: could put it like Alice Hoy: top Frances Boice: that, Alice Hoy: down. Frances Boice: okay. Alice Hoy: Hmm? Vicki Balderama: Yeah, you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station. Alice Hoy: Do we have to design that w as well? Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Frances Boice: Uh I'm Alice Hoy: The Frances Boice: not Alice Hoy: docking Frances Boice: sure. Alice Hoy: station? Lina Campbell: Yeah, I think so. Alice Hoy: Hmm. Vicki Balderama: Yeah, we Lina Campbell: But Vicki Balderama: can b Lina Campbell: th Yeah, that can be very simple. Least. Vicki Balderama: It c it could be Alice Hoy: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: just just Alice Hoy: just a recharger. Vicki Balderama: a square, just Lina Campbell: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: a Lina Campbell: just Vicki Balderama: packet. Lina Campbell: where you're around something. Li Yeah, we had one example. Alice Hoy: But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well. Lina Campbell: Mm. Mm. Vicki Balderama: Yeah, but that's a round Lina Campbell: Which w Vicki Balderama: one. Maybe we can choose then. Lina Campbell: Here you see one that's very round. Alice Hoy: Oh yeah, okay. Lina Campbell: So I think that can be all kind of shapes. Frances Boice: But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit. Alice Hoy: Of Frances Boice: That's Alice Hoy: the remote Frances Boice: all. Alice Hoy: control? Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Alice Hoy: Yeah Yeah. Frances Boice: Just Lina Campbell: Yeah, Frances Boice: round it Lina Campbell: so Frances Boice: up. Lina Campbell: y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod. But Frances Boice: No. Lina Campbell: More rounded. Frances Boice: Yeah. Yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I think it will just look like more like this one. Since it's This is also rounded. Frances Boice: No, Lina Campbell: I think Frances Boice: just Lina Campbell: i Frances Boice: just the corners. Lina Campbell: Yeah okay, tho those are al already a bit cornered. Mm Frances Boice: Okay. Alice Hoy: Yeah, but we can we can do all kinds of uh As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of Frances Boice: Shapes. Alice Hoy: round shapes. Lina Campbell: Yeah okay, but then Alice Hoy: Not Lina Campbell: we Alice Hoy: in Lina Campbell: have Alice Hoy: depth. Lina Campbell: to think of something totally new. Alice Hoy: Yeah, but Yeah, if if we want to make it kind of, yeah, new. Lina Campbell: I've uh I had a lot of picture of old ones. And all curves have already been done. Frances Boice: It's a bit annoying, isn't it? Vicki Balderama: Yeah. What do we do wrong? Hmm. Just just more like this and not uh a square. Lina Campbell: Yeah okay, Vicki Balderama: Okay. Lina Campbell: yeah well Alice Hoy: Yeah, but we could do a lot of, lot more curving. I would do it Lina Campbell: Yeah. I know we can do a lot more, but Vicki Balderama: Yeah, it Alice Hoy: Like in this kind of shape or Vicki Balderama: Uh it's very annoying. Okay. Alice Hoy: I dunno. I dunno if it's handy. Lina Campbell: I think it will only Vicki Balderama: Uh Lina Campbell: look more like the old remote controls. Alice Hoy: This? Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square Lina Campbell: Yeah Alice Hoy: thing. Lina Campbell: okay. But uh I had a lot of pictures Oh I can show you here what the old ones look like. Alice Hoy: Mm. Lina Campbell: Curves, curves. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: You've more there as well. Alice Hoy: Yeah, okay. Lina Campbell: It wasn't very small one. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: very simple. That is for elderly. Frances Boice: So we have to make a decision, what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have. Alice Hoy: Yeah, I don't know. Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: I think if w My opinion. If we just uh take the iPod, and Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: the same look. So uh light or just whatever colour, but the same light colours. Alice Hoy: Mm-hmm. Lina Campbell: And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new. No rubber buttons or something. Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look. More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player. Alice Hoy: Yeah. Frances Boice: And you have the scroll button inside. Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: Just Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: a simple Frances Boice: But why Lina Campbell: scrollb Frances Boice: do we have to round it on the t bottom then? Of Skip that one as well. Lina Campbell: Doesn't have to be. Frances Boice: Okay. Yeah, it's cool. Alice Hoy: Yeah, though that's a trend. If we want to make it. But yeah, I'm not a Trendwatcher, you are. So Vicki Balderama: Uh the t the trend is Frances Boice: Rubber spongy. Vicki Balderama: spongy and fruity. But yeah. Lina Campbell: Yeah. No. Alice Hoy: Spongeball Lina Campbell: Spongy Alice Hoy: kinda. Lina Campbell: and Vicki Balderama: It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh Frances Boice: Okay, so we have s still one minute left. So Vicki Balderama: Uh Frances Boice: just I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square. Lina Campbell: Mm. Alice Hoy: Okay. Vicki Balderama: It The Alice Hoy: Yeah, I d Vicki Balderama: th Alice Hoy: I Vicki Balderama: th Alice Hoy: don't know n something about ergonomic kind Frances Boice: No. Alice Hoy: of fits-in-the-hand Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Alice Hoy: uh Frances Boice: But Alice Hoy: stuff. Frances Boice: I I think it's still for older people. You j still have older people. It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that, like f Whatever. Just Vicki Balderama: There is Alice Hoy: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: one Frances Boice: you have Alice Hoy: but Frances Boice: a normal Alice Hoy: we're we're aiming at a young Vicki Balderama: There's Alice Hoy: public. Vicki Balderama: just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original, and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself. It must have uh uh uh Lina Campbell: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: a very Lina Campbell: idea. Vicki Balderama: different Lina Campbell: But you're If you look at the way remote controls are now Vicki Balderama: Yeah, they're all Lina Campbell: And Vicki Balderama: the same. Lina Campbell: if you Frances Boice: But Lina Campbell: make Frances Boice: i it Lina Campbell: it Frances Boice: is Lina Campbell: look Frances Boice: it Lina Campbell: like Frances Boice: is Lina Campbell: the iPod Frances Boice: it is already fancy. Because of the lights on the bottom Lina Campbell: Yeah Frances Boice: of it. That's Lina Campbell: okay. Frances Boice: already Lina Campbell: So Frances Boice: fancy. Lina Campbell: that's already Frances Boice: Uh Lina Campbell: a very big Frances Boice: maybe Lina Campbell: change Frances Boice: maybe Lina Campbell: compared Frances Boice: make Lina Campbell: to Frances Boice: the the mm the wha what's it called uh scroll wheel. Make it in in yellow or something. Just like the colours of Real Alice Hoy: Hmm. Frances Boice: Reaction. Lina Campbell: Ye yeah. Well uh Alice Hoy: Yeah, we could do that. Lina Campbell: Could. Vicki Balderama: Uh yeah, but uh if you the f uh front, the scroll wheel will still uh Frances Boice: Yeah. Vicki Balderama: be yellow. Lina Campbell: No, I think Oh. Frances Boice: It's right. Lina Campbell: Think the scroll wheel won't be very big. Since if you put it uh somewhere, the chances that it will scroll are too big. Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: So it will just be a small small scroll wheel. So it won't uh stick out much. Frances Boice: Yeah. Maybe the ones we are going to draw there. Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has if it can work better than this. Because it doesn't work properly. Vicki Balderama: No. Frances Boice: So maybe you Lina Campbell: Yeah Frances Boice: have Lina Campbell: okay. Frances Boice: to ask Lina Campbell: Well, Frances Boice: her. Lina Campbell: maybe we can just open images there, and I'll paint and paint. Frances Boice: Okay. Lina Campbell: I'll Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: be able to do Frances Boice: That's Lina Campbell: a better Frances Boice: probably Lina Campbell: job. Vicki Balderama: If you set the pen yeah, he will draw here. Doesn't work. Frances Boice: Okay, so just finish it. So we make it a bit like m that one probably. Vicki Balderama: Yeah, Frances Boice: Yeah. Is that okay? Lina Campbell: Bu Vicki Balderama: I'll see it. Lina Campbell: Yeah, I Alice Hoy: Yeah. Lina Campbell: agree more Frances Boice: Okay, Lina Campbell: like iPod. Frances Boice: only the colour and the flashy light and Lina Campbell: Yes. Frances Boice: the Lina Campbell: Just Frances Boice: We just Lina Campbell: a Frances Boice: we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech Lina Campbell: Speech. Frances Boice: recognition. Lina Campbell: Yeah, do we s keep that? Yeah, I think Frances Boice: Or keep that? It's okay. But you'd definitely Alice Hoy: S Frances Boice: need a Lina Campbell: Well Alice Hoy: Uh Lina Campbell: uh then Alice Hoy: yeah, Frances Boice: advanced Lina Campbell: it Alice Hoy: I Lina Campbell: w Frances Boice: chip. Alice Hoy: don't Vicki Balderama: Uh Alice Hoy: know. Yeah, I think so. And we we have to build in a microphone and Lina Campbell: Well that's very easy. We already have uh the beeping of the Alice Hoy: Yeah, and I do I Lina Campbell: home Alice Hoy: don't Lina Campbell: station, Alice Hoy: know anything Lina Campbell: so Alice Hoy: about that. I d Vicki Balderama: No. Alice Hoy: I didn't receive any information Lina Campbell: Uh strange Alice Hoy: on speech Lina Campbell: that Alice Hoy: recognition, Lina Campbell: I received Alice Hoy: so Lina Campbell: the Vicki Balderama: Oh that's hard. Lina Campbell: information Vicki Balderama: But Lina Campbell: about Frances Boice: So Lina Campbell: that. Vicki Balderama: Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said. We have to be original and uh technological innovative. Becau Yeah. Frances Boice: Can we just Vicki Balderama: But Frances Boice: put it speech recognition in it as well, okay? Lina Campbell: So shall we Vicki Balderama: Ma Lina Campbell: it open then? Frances Boice: Yeah. Lina Campbell: So we can put all the Frances Boice: The function of that in there. Yeah. Lina Campbell: Okay. Frances Boice: And we need Alice Hoy: Fine. Frances Boice: a Probably we need a uh advanced chip then. Alice Hoy: Yeah, we Frances Boice: But Alice Hoy: probably Frances Boice: it doesn't say Alice Hoy: do. Frances Boice: anything Lina Campbell: Yeah. Frances Boice: about it, does it? Alice Hoy: No. Lina Campbell: Oh yeah, Vicki Balderama: But we don't Lina Campbell: I Vicki Balderama: have any f information about the cost. Lina Campbell: No. Vicki Balderama: We started with information about Lina Campbell: I just Vicki Balderama: the cost Alice Hoy: Yeah, Vicki Balderama: was Alice Hoy: uh Vicki Balderama: now Lina Campbell: I Alice Hoy: I Lina Campbell: just Vicki Balderama: th Lina Campbell: received Alice Hoy: have I Lina Campbell: the Alice Hoy: have some some information about the cost. But just a about Lina Campbell: Yeah. Alice Hoy: the chip. Vicki Balderama: And how much is the chip? The the the Alice Hoy: I don't know how much, but Lina Campbell: Yeah, our division has Alice Hoy: Just Lina Campbell: developed Alice Hoy: in inexpensive Lina Campbell: a new speech recognition Alice Hoy: or Lina Campbell: feature, the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit. This is a very small electronic unit, will give a standard answer after it recognise a question. Vicki Balderama: And how how does it work? Is it Lina Campbell: Doesn't say. Just You say record, followed by your question sample, and after a few seconds the answer uh sample. Because uh So it works like uh good morning remote control, and then the remote control says good morning. Frances Boice: It doesn't has to say anything. Vicki Balderama: No. Frances Boice: Just You have to just talk Vicki Balderama: Does Frances Boice: to Lina Campbell: Yeah Vicki Balderama: it say Lina Campbell: uh th that's Vicki Balderama: does it say Lina Campbell: just Vicki Balderama: something Frances Boice: Okay, Vicki Balderama: back? Frances Boice: we have to stop Lina Campbell: It's Frances Boice: it now. Lina Campbell: a Frances Boice: So Lina Campbell: No. Frances Boice: just Lina Campbell: Yeah, it Well that's integrated in the chip, so if you use the speech recognition, Frances Boice: Okay, that's a r Lina Campbell: that's Frances Boice: That's that's Lina Campbell: in it. Frances Boice: a Alice Hoy: But i it's Frances Boice: advanced Alice Hoy: a separate chip. Lina Campbell: I dunno, but if we use speech recognition, that will be in it as well. Vicki Balderama: Okay. Alice Hoy: Yeah, I don't know anything about Vicki Balderama: Um Alice Hoy: this, but Frances Boice: Yeah, we Alice Hoy: Nah. Frances Boice: just decide not to put it in, because it's too difficult. Alice Hoy: I dunno. Lina Campbell: Well it it would be would be a good feature Vicki Balderama: Yeah. Lina Campbell: feature. Frances Boice: Okay, we just put it in, because Lina Campbell: Okay. Frances Boice: it's a good feature. Lina Campbell: No Frances Boice: We Lina Campbell: no worries about Frances Boice: have to Lina Campbell: the cost, Frances Boice: stop now. Lina Campbell: etcetera. Frances Boice: Okay, Lina Campbell: And there's Frances Boice: just Lina Campbell: a chip Frances Boice: We Lina Campbell: in Frances Boice: have Lina Campbell: it Frances Boice: to stop Lina Campbell: that Frances Boice: it Lina Campbell: will Frances Boice: now. Lina Campbell: Okay. Vicki Balderama: Fine.	Frances Boice reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Vicki Balderama gave a trendwatching report. He found that a fancy look and feel was most important for users. He also discussed the trend towards spongy materials. The group discussed the cost of adding speech recognition, the LCD screen, and the advanced chip. Lina Campbell discussed the look of the interface with the group. They discussed the placement and design of the buttons and decided to use scroll wheels for volume. Alice Hoy advised that flashy colors and rounded shapes be used. The group discussed how to incorporate the logo and including changeable faces. They discussed materials for the buttons and the backlight. The group decided to use rechargeable batteries and a stand, to use plastic for the casing and buttons, and to not include an LCD screen. Lina Campbell and Alice Hoy were instructed to draw the prototype at the next meeting, and Lina Campbell was instructed to finalize the button placement. The group finalized the look of the product, and eventually decided to incorporate speech recognition and an advanced chip.	4	amisum	train
Nicole Scott: Oh. Ruby Price: It's not saved yet. Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: So Nicole Scott: Okay. Ruby Price: Our beautiful. Nicole Scott: So just f um Nicole Scott: So is our agenda. You're F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after Palma Barrows. Palma Barrows: Oops. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: Uh I didn't Oh yeah. So these are the Candace Dang: Oh, okay. Yeah. Nicole Scott: So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right, just say it to Palma Barrows then. I don't have to put it in the report. Ruby Price: Are we doing the the speech recognition? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well. Nicole Scott: Okay, but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to, it's okay. Ruby Price: Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in. Nicole Scott: Okay, just Ruby Price: Yeah, just uh we have to design the inside then, but it should Candace Dang: Yeah, Ruby Price: be Candace Dang: and Ruby Price: uh Candace Dang: Or are we making a slide open, like underneath? Or fold open? I don't know. Nicole Scott: Slide open is Candace Dang: It's Nicole Scott: uh Candace Dang: probably Nicole Scott: quite Candace Dang: better. Nicole Scott: usable for remote controls. Candace Dang: Yeah, s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and Ruby Price: It's Candace Dang: you Ruby Price: may Candace Dang: other Ruby Price: maybe Candace Dang: functions. Nicole Scott: Maybe Ruby Price: uh a Nicole Scott: that's Ruby Price: bit stronger Nicole Scott: better. Ruby Price: as well. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Yeah, that's that's a very good point. Ruby Price: Okay, Candace Dang: Think Ruby Price: so Candace Dang: that's better. Ruby Price: when you have a lot of room inside. So you make it very easy to use. 'Cause Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: can write a lot of comments besides it. Nicole Scott: Okay. So this is okay? Ruby Price: No. Yeah, we're gonna use the advanced chip then. Nicole Scott: Okay, so that's Uh I'll just Candace Dang: The Nicole Scott: have a look how much that is. But um Ruby Price: Advanced chip Nicole Scott: Okay, Ruby Price: was for Nicole Scott: for the Ruby Price: uh spee Yeah. Candace Dang: Yeah, I Nicole Scott: Okay. Candace Dang: I think so. I don't know. Nicole Scott: No, you have a different chip for speech recognition. So Ruby Price: Okay. Candace Dang: Ah okay. Nicole Scott: So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay. Ruby Price: Good. Nicole Scott: So you can show your prototype if you want to. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: Together? Candace Dang: Yeah, it's Let's do it together. Ruby Price: I'll give comments. Candace Dang: Okay. Yeah we just made a Word file the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form, the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it. Uh the material should be hard plastic. Palma Barrows: Mm-hmm. Candace Dang: Uh colour changeable, and also transparent. And colour and transparent, or just transparent, I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function, on-off function, text functions. This uh switch channel. Nicole Scott: Okay, cool. Candace Dang: And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here, and the mic. Nicole Scott: Okay. Candace Dang: And the scrollwheel, no? You Palma Barrows: Means Candace Dang: operate that with your pointing finger. So you hold it like this in your right hand and Nicole Scott: Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone? Ruby Price: Speech recognition. Nicole Scott: Yeah, speech recognition. Just Ruby Price: Um Nicole Scott: Only one button to say Ruby Price: I Nicole Scott: it's Ruby Price: didn't Nicole Scott: on Ruby Price: have Nicole Scott: or off. Ruby Price: a specification of that. But um Candace Dang: Uh Ruby Price: I Candace Dang: I dunno. Ruby Price: can imagine that you have to input your voice or something. Um Candace Dang: Yeah, maybe maybe Ruby Price: so I've Candace Dang: uh you have to configure it. Ruby Price: Yes, you need options to configure it, and after that you don't need 'em anymore. Nicole Scott: So you can put it on the back as well if you Ruby Price: Yeah, Nicole Scott: want to. Ruby Price: you can Candace Dang: Yeah, Ruby Price: put Candace Dang: or Ruby Price: 'em all on Candace Dang: or Ruby Price: the back. Candace Dang: on the slide Ruby Price: That's for sure. Candace Dang: function, I don't know. Nicole Scott: Okay. Ruby Price: That's Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: uh Candace Dang: Well we haven't had time to design that, the slide Ruby Price: We also Candace Dang: pad. Ruby Price: don't know how many buttons are required, or what kind of buttons. But You have a lot of room if you can slide it open. Nicole Scott: Yeah, you can Ruby Price: You Nicole Scott: put Ruby Price: Yeah Nicole Scott: it Ruby Price: I know. Nicole Scott: separate. Ruby Price: I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So But Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: it's enough room. Candace Dang: Um the position? Yeah, you write uh Ruby Price: Uh Candace Dang: You wrote Ruby Price: well Candace Dang: this, so. Ruby Price: Well the main, the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing. So uh the best place, the best reach place Um on-off buttons, text buttons, mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are, easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger, uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red, 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's basically the be standard place for scrollwheel, as Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: far as I know. Candace Dang: But it's not uh impossible to use it, if you're left handed. So y Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: Because you can use your thumb then. Palma Barrows: Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight Ruby Price: Okay Palma Barrows: nine. Ruby Price: yeah, they Palma Barrows: But you missed the no uh the zero Candace Dang: Mm Palma Barrows: and Candace Dang: yeah. Palma Barrows: uh Ruby Price: Yeah Palma Barrows: the two Ruby Price: okay. Palma Barrows: stripes. Ruby Price: That's that's Candace Dang: Yeah, Ruby Price: below Candace Dang: okay. Ruby Price: that then. It's uh twelve Candace Dang: just Ruby Price: buttons. Candace Dang: so you get that. Palma Barrows: Okay, but It's rather important. Ruby Price: Yeah okay, Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: just we just missed that. But um I'll just uh I'll get back to later. F the form well, we've taken that from the iPod, other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um The f uh the buttons creating? Uh if you That or all round shapes, not uh rounded corners. Nicole Scott: Okay. Ruby Price: So that, you know, you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons, uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing, the thing that lights up. We have decided uh in the the channel buttons, there's a little uh colour around it. Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: And also in the num-pads, there's also colour light behind it. Nicole Scott: And Ruby Price: So Nicole Scott: do Ruby Price: when Nicole Scott: you Ruby Price: you Nicole Scott: still Ruby Price: pre Nicole Scott: can, do you still can choose what colour, kind of colour you want? Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: How do you want to implement that? Just Ruby Price: We're Nicole Scott: on the Ruby Price: going Nicole Scott: Maybe Ruby Price: to Nicole Scott: on Ruby Price: implement. Nicole Scott: the second level as well? Ruby Price: Yeah. Mm just a little Palma Barrows: Ah. Candace Dang: Yeah, these are just basic functions, so All the non-basic Nicole Scott: Okay, just Candace Dang: are Nicole Scott: draw Candace Dang: in Nicole Scott: draw the second level, because we need that as well. Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: Um Palma Barrows: Okay, there is one uh function I use uh daily, and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player. That Candace Dang: Okay, Palma Barrows: function Candace Dang: maybe Palma Barrows: must be Candace Dang: we use this button for Palma Barrows: Yeah, Candace Dang: the Palma Barrows: maybe Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other Ruby Price: Yeah, Palma Barrows: uh Ruby Price: I um Nicole Scott: Yeah, as well. Palma Barrows: functions. Nicole Scott: Just make Ruby Price: To Nicole Scott: make Ruby Price: your video Nicole Scott: a Ruby Price: device. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something. Candace Dang: A second Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: level? Nicole Scott: Yeah. Candace Dang: Like a a new blank Nicole Scott: No no, Candace Dang: one Nicole Scott: just Candace Dang: or Nicole Scott: on Candace Dang: Or just Nicole Scott: Down Candace Dang: here? Nicole Scott: there. Ruby Price: Is i Ah okay. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: So uh Candace Dang: Yeah. Palma Barrows: And h how does Nicole Scott: Just Palma Barrows: the Nicole Scott: uh Palma Barrows: second Nicole Scott: if you Palma Barrows: level Nicole Scott: s Palma Barrows: come out? Uh it slides uh Ruby Price: Um slides Palma Barrows: along? Ruby Price: I think. Nicole Scott: Yeah, y Ruby Price: It's Nicole Scott: Maybe, yeah. Palma Barrows: From from the uh Nicole Scott: For the Ruby Price: You can Nicole Scott: bottom. Ruby Price: do Palma Barrows: beneath? Ruby Price: it that it claps open, but I think that's not solid enough. Nicole Scott: No, Ruby Price: If that Nicole Scott: you Ruby Price: breaks Nicole Scott: gotta Ruby Price: then Nicole Scott: slide Ruby Price: you're screwed. Nicole Scott: it. Yeah, it's right. Ruby Price: So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open. Um Candace Dang: So what do we need? Ruby Price: Uh i the the speech functions buttons. Candace Dang: Yeah, just Palma Barrows: Menu? Ruby Price: Menu button. With uh maybe uh arrows. So you can uh scroll in the, navigate the menu. Um Candace Dang: God Palma Barrows: Scart? Candace Dang: damn it. Ruby Price: I think we can even put a We have one for the zero and one for the Palma Barrows: Uh yeah. Ruby Price: for the more digit uh Palma Barrows: And so y you Ruby Price: channels. Palma Barrows: keep Ruby Price: So Palma Barrows: you keep Ruby Price: you have Palma Barrows: one, Ruby Price: one Palma Barrows: you have Ruby Price: left for Palma Barrows: one Ruby Price: the Palma Barrows: left. Yes. Candace Dang: So this is Ruby Price: Right, Candace Dang: the Ruby Price: the video channel, Play Station, etcetera. That's used pretty often. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Ruby Price: If you have a Play Palma Barrows: It's Ruby Price: Station, Palma Barrows: a f Ruby Price: mm Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: you use it every day. Palma Barrows: basic uh Candace Dang: Extern or something. Nicole Scott: You want to save that file as well? The drawing? Ruby Price: That was Candace Dang: So Ruby Price: it. Candace Dang: here are multiple speech buttons, I don't know how many. Ruby Price: Uh Nicole Scott: Doesn't really matter. Candace Dang: I don't Nicole Scott: Just Candace Dang: know the Ruby Price: It Candace Dang: functions. Ruby Price: doesn't Nicole Scott: just uh Ruby Price: really matter. That's Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: Yeah well we don't Candace Dang: What Ruby Price: have Candace Dang: else? Ruby Price: any uh Hmm? Candace Dang: What else? Ruby Price: What else? Uh menu buttons with Candace Dang: Uh menu. Ruby Price: arrows. Palma Barrows: Yeah, to navigate. Candace Dang: Uh Ruby Price: S Just uh Candace Dang: With arrows. Ruby Price: like Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have Or there. Candace Dang: Like a normal um Ruby Price: Like on the normal uh Like this. Candace Dang: Yeah, with in the middle um a menu Ruby Price: The menu Candace Dang: button. Ruby Price: button, yes. Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: Well we don't have any, anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it. Palma Barrows: Mm okay. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs? Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: Yep. Palma Barrows: Uh and and you can hold it, you can hold it, and then the colours switch or Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: mm multiple Ruby Price: Just press it once, Palma Barrows: multiple Ruby Price: the Palma Barrows: buttons. Ruby Price: colour should uh switch. Press again, the colour switch again maybe? Palma Barrows: okay. Nicole Scott: Or we just make it three buttons, all the colours on it. Just red, yel Palma Barrows: Okay, Nicole Scott: uh red, Palma Barrows: yeah. Nicole Scott: green Palma Barrows: Th Nicole Scott: and Palma Barrows: Yeah. If Candace Dang: Yeah, Palma Barrows: we have Candace Dang: okay. Palma Barrows: enough place, uh Nicole Scott: That's Palma Barrows: then we Nicole Scott: that's Palma Barrows: can do Nicole Scott: very Palma Barrows: that. Nicole Scott: easy, yeah. Candace Dang: We can put those here. Palma Barrows: Colour buttons. And then we choose green, uh blue and red or Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: Yep. Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: Okay. That's uh Um Candace Dang: So did we miss anything? Ruby Price: Yeah, Palma Barrows: It Ruby Price: maybe some uh some text Palma Barrows: Some text Ruby Price: next to Palma Barrows: uh Ruby Price: the Palma Barrows: buttons. Ruby Price: scroll wheel, that it is volume. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Yeah, but Ruby Price: I Nicole Scott: No, Ruby Price: just Nicole Scott: ma Ruby Price: uh The Nicole Scott: on Ruby Price: volume Nicole Scott: on Ruby Price: logo. Palma Barrows: there's Nicole Scott: o Palma Barrows: one Nicole Scott: on the Palma Barrows: there's Nicole Scott: on Palma Barrows: one Nicole Scott: the Palma Barrows: text Candace Dang: Oh Palma Barrows: button Candace Dang: wh Palma Barrows: I Candace Dang: Here? Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: Just make it Palma Barrows: There's Candace Dang: Yeah, Palma Barrows: one Candace Dang: or Palma Barrows: text Candace Dang: th or Palma Barrows: button Candace Dang: the Palma Barrows: I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page, uh like seven hundred, uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred, you will switch to your television and back to Ruby Price: Yeah, Palma Barrows: text. Ruby Price: we Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: have that on the Palma Barrows: Do you do you Ruby Price: the Palma Barrows: Did Ruby Price: text Candace Dang: Yep. Palma Barrows: you Ruby Price: button. Palma Barrows: think of that? Candace Dang: Yeah, but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just Ruby Price: Uh Candace Dang: switch it off and then Ruby Price: why Nicole Scott: Yeah, Ruby Price: not? Nicole Scott: just put it on those extra f extra function Palma Barrows: Ex Nicole Scott: as Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: well. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Ruby Price: No Candace Dang: Well w Ruby Price: Whoa Candace Dang: we thought of a text button. And if you press it again, you get the the the Ruby Price: I Palma Barrows: The Ruby Price: think Palma Barrows: sta the state Nicole Scott: Oh Ruby Price: um Nicole Scott: just Palma Barrows: you Nicole Scott: three stages, Candace Dang: through view. Nicole Scott: you Palma Barrows: Yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah, Nicole Scott: Yeah, Candace Dang: Yeah, Nicole Scott: that's Candace Dang: b Ruby Price: the three Candace Dang: but Nicole Scott: okay. Ruby Price: stages. Candace Dang: but Ruby Price: Yes. Candace Dang: if you're in the second stage, the third stage is switch teletext off. So you can switch back Ruby Price: No, Candace Dang: from Ruby Price: it doesn't Candace Dang: second Ruby Price: have Candace Dang: to Ruby Price: to Candace Dang: w Ruby Price: turn Candace Dang: first. Ruby Price: it off. Palma Barrows: No. Ruby Price: Just don't Palma Barrows: Just remember where it was. It Ruby Price: Yeah. Palma Barrows: it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext Nicole Scott: Yes, Palma Barrows: on, Nicole Scott: that's to remember. Palma Barrows: you you set the seven hundred, and you turn it off, then the next time you turn it on, it still stays on Candace Dang: Okay, Palma Barrows: seven hundred? Candace Dang: okay. Nicole Scott: Yeah, but that's Palma Barrows: But Nicole Scott: that's Palma Barrows: maybe Nicole Scott: uh Palma Barrows: it's not the way Ruby Price: I dunno if Nicole Scott: That's a functionality for the television. Ruby Price: Yeah, I think as well, but Uh yeah. Palma Barrows: Mm. That's maybe one Candace Dang: Yeah mm nee Palma Barrows: thing we can Candace Dang: uh Palma Barrows: discuss about. Candace Dang: No, if i uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred, page seven hundred to the television. Ruby Price: Yeah, Candace Dang: Th th Ruby Price: in thi the Candace Dang: th if Ruby Price: the Nicole Scott: Okay. Candace Dang: you switch it Ruby Price: remote Candace Dang: on. Ruby Price: control in the Nicole Scott: Yeah, but Candace Dang: Th Nicole Scott: you have Candace Dang: i Nicole Scott: to Ruby Price: the Nicole Scott: search Ruby Price: chip. Nicole Scott: every time again. That's what what happening if you do it like that. Ruby Price: Yeah, Nicole Scott: But Ruby Price: that's true. Nicole Scott: it's still Candace Dang: Yeah, Nicole Scott: the Candace Dang: I dunno. Nicole Scott: television that has Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: to do that. Ruby Price: So yeah. Um do we need to fix that or Palma Barrows: Mm Nicole Scott: No, that's what the television Palma Barrows: most new Nicole Scott: does. Palma Barrows: T_V_s do uh collect all the pages. Candace Dang: Yeah, those memory Palma Barrows: But Candace Dang: functions. Palma Barrows: uh not not every every television, so Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Okay, Candace Dang: Was Nicole Scott: it's Candace Dang: uh Nicole Scott: cool. Candace Dang: this logo for uh volume? Nicole Scott: Yeah, that's fine. Candace Dang: Okay. So that's it? Nicole Scott: Is this prich pretty much it, yeah? Palma Barrows: Yeah, I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons? Uh from which material are they now? Candace Dang: Mm. Ruby Price: Just Candace Dang: No no Ruby Price: like your telephone, hard plastic. Candace Dang: Yeah. Just hard plastic. Palma Barrows: Okay. Candace Dang: So Palma Barrows: Because Nicole Scott: It's too expensive Palma Barrows: um Nicole Scott: to make it from a different material Palma Barrows: if you Nicole Scott: anyway. Palma Barrows: use it a couple of years, some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away, are uh And maybe we can write the numbers below or above? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons? Ruby Price: I think Candace Dang: Uh Ruby Price: just Candace Dang: I Ruby Price: on Candace Dang: think Ruby Price: the buttons. Candace Dang: just um Palma Barrows: Well yeah. That's too much place. Candace Dang: Yeah, Palma Barrows: Okay, Ruby Price: I Candace Dang: but Ruby Price: don't Palma Barrows: just leave Ruby Price: think Palma Barrows: it. Just Ruby Price: the space Palma Barrows: leave it. Ruby Price: is worth it. Palma Barrows: Yeah, Candace Dang: I think Palma Barrows: and Candace Dang: uh Palma Barrows: i Candace Dang: you have Palma Barrows: The most Candace Dang: that problem Palma Barrows: time Candace Dang: more often with rubber buttons. Palma Barrows: Yeah, with rubber buttons. Yeah, okay. Okay. Fine. Nicole Scott: Yeah? Okay, cool. Nicole Scott: Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah, I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one. Palma Barrows: Yeah, I made some criteria uh, Nicole Scott: Oh okay, you Palma Barrows: so Nicole Scott: made some Palma Barrows: we Nicole Scott: criteria. Palma Barrows: can uh Nicole Scott: Okay, Palma Barrows: ev Nicole Scott: cool. Palma Barrows: evaluate our model. Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: I d d d I don't think if it's right. That shall show it. Nicole Scott: You have some usability criteria or Palma Barrows: Mm-hmm. Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: Uh no, uh all criterias we just argue about. Uh Oh. Candace Dang: In the bottom. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Look-and-feel? Palma Barrows: Evaluation Candace Dang: No, Palma Barrows: crit Candace Dang: evaluation is Palma Barrows: Yeah, evaluation presentation. It's not in. Uh d it doesn't matter um It only had two pages or something. Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy, or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market. The Italians uh, how they think about it. And The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff. I made some criteria, and we have to test the criteria from one to zero. We sh we we we can give it uh a number, and then we can give ourself an average for our Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: um model. And Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: this These are all I I I found, or I wrote down. And um we have to discuss about, if we give it a one or a seven. Uh Nicole Scott: Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful. It's Palma Barrows: Yes. Ruby Price: Mm. Nicole Scott: We are Palma Barrows: Yeah, Nicole Scott: actu Palma Barrows: the the Nicole Scott: We Palma Barrows: the difference Nicole Scott: are the Palma Barrows: be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something. And fancy's more like the Nicole Scott: Flashy. Palma Barrows: mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and and that kind of stuff. Ruby Price: Okay. Well Palma Barrows: The LEDs. Ruby Price: I think we do If it's really uh, if you can if you can get the iPod look, then it's beautiful, I think. Palma Barrows: Yes. And Nicole Scott: But Candace Dang: Yeah Nicole Scott: uh Palma Barrows: and what Candace Dang: beautiful's Palma Barrows: ki what kind of Candace Dang: is Palma Barrows: what Candace Dang: also Palma Barrows: kind of basic Candace Dang: a matter of Palma Barrows: colours Candace Dang: taste. Palma Barrows: uh were you thought uh of? Ruby Price: Hmm? Palma Barrows: The basic colours are black or green or yellow? Or you Ruby Price: Um Palma Barrows: haven't Ruby Price: basic Palma Barrows: thought about Ruby Price: colours, um yeah. Well you didn't Palma Barrows: Ho Ruby Price: say. Palma Barrows: how do we make uh Ruby Price: Maybe um company colours? Nicole Scott: It's black. Palma Barrows: Black Ruby Price: Black. Palma Barrows: and yellow. Nicole Scott: Yeah, Ruby Price: A bit Palma Barrows: Can Nicole Scott: yellow Ruby Price: a bit Nicole Scott: light. Ruby Price: of yellow. Nicole Scott: Do we have yellow light? No, not really, but Ruby Price: Not Nicole Scott: it's possible. Ruby Price: not not yellow, Nicole Scott: It's Ruby Price: but just a bit of light yellow. Palma Barrows: Black white, maybe? Ruby Price: Like white, also ni or uh always Candace Dang: And Ruby Price: nice. Candace Dang: what colours Palma Barrows: Uh Candace Dang: should the buttons be? Palma Barrows: Because um Nicole Scott: Yeah, different colours. This is Ruby Price: Just um Nicole Scott: Oh, the same as th th the cover. But also th the Candace Dang: But Nicole Scott: light behind Candace Dang: can Ruby Price: Yes. Candace Dang: you change Nicole Scott: it. Candace Dang: those too, with uh Nicole Scott: No, Candace Dang: the switch? Nicole Scott: no. Make them No, just make them black or grey or something. Ruby Price: Yeah, grey. Just dark grey I think. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Okay, so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful? Beautiful is uh really subjective, uh because it has to do lots with the colours. Ruby Price: Well we have changeable fronts, so Palma Barrows: Changeable fronts, so ev for everyone for Ruby Price: So Palma Barrows: everyone it's something beautiful. Nicole Scott: Yeah, just Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: give it a one. It's okay. It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not? Ruby Price: It's hard to decide for us, but Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: yeah. Candace Dang: It's ju Ruby Price: It Candace Dang: so Ruby Price: it's Candace Dang: subjective. Ruby Price: At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Okay, just give it a two. Palma Barrows: A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons. Ruby Price: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Okay. uh really fancy I think. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Candace Dang: One Palma Barrows: So Candace Dang: more thing. Are w are we changing uh Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too? Or n no back light? Palma Barrows: Slide panel? Candace Dang: Yeah? Ruby Price: Mm. Nicole Scott: No. Ruby Price: Not Nicole Scott: No, Ruby Price: needed. Nicole Scott: it's only on the number, behind the numbers Ruby Price: Yeah, not Nicole Scott: and Ruby Price: needed Nicole Scott: uh Ruby Price: I Candace Dang: And Ruby Price: think. Candace Dang: and the switch channel is uh Palma Barrows: Oh, Candace Dang: There is Nicole Scott: That Candace Dang: a back Nicole Scott: as Candace Dang: light Nicole Scott: well, Candace Dang: too? Palma Barrows: you mean th Nicole Scott: yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah. Palma Barrows: this here? Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Yeah, but that's unnecessary. Ruby Price: What do I think is necessary necessary Palma Barrows: It's Ruby Price: item? Palma Barrows: pretty cool. If you slide it open, it lights up. That's that's really Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: fancy, but I don't know if it's reachable. Ruby Price: Of course it's reachable. Nicole Scott: It doesn't Palma Barrows: Then Nicole Scott: make Palma Barrows: we do it. Candace Dang: Hmm. Ruby Price: Okay, maybe just some light uh to to light it all up. So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons Nicole Scott: No. Ruby Price: or something. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: Just a green light or some blue light. To Palma Barrows: Yeah, Ruby Price: light it all up. Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: but Nicole Scott: Yeah. Mayb Candace Dang: Yeah, Nicole Scott: Okay. Candace Dang: just backlight. Not not the buttons. And Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons, but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey. Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: Well yeah. Uh semi-transparent. Nicole Scott: Yeah, just Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: only Yeah, that's right. Palma Barrows: Okay, fine. Nicole Scott: So Palma Barrows: So I I think it's very fancy. Nicole Scott: Yeah, that's Palma Barrows: So I'll Nicole Scott: how Ruby Price: Yeah, Nicole Scott: I Palma Barrows: give Nicole Scott: think. Palma Barrows: it a Ruby Price: w we've done a a lot of detail in light, so Palma Barrows: Yeah, and you can Nicole Scott: Ye Palma Barrows: uh also choose your light, so Nicole Scott: Yeah, this Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: It is a one. It's okay. Palma Barrows: I think Nicole Scott: It's cool. Palma Barrows: it's one. Okay, next. Nicole Scott: This is a difficult one, because Palma Barrows: Learnable? Nicole Scott: we we Palma Barrows: Easy Nicole Scott: don't Palma Barrows: to use? Nicole Scott: Yeah, we don't know it about the Palma Barrows: Yeah, we shall test it But uh Nicole Scott: Uh it's it's very easy to use, but Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: uh the second layer is not easy to use. It's That's Candace Dang: No, but you Palma Barrows: Yeah. Candace Dang: don't have to use that. And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer. That's Nicole Scott: No. Candace Dang: th that's the main thing that's so good Ruby Price: So Candace Dang: about Ruby Price: I think Candace Dang: it. Ruby Price: it's easy to use, but And learnable Palma Barrows: Learnable? Ruby Price: is a bit Palma Barrows: It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control. Candace Dang: Well, Palma Barrows: Because Candace Dang: I think it Ruby Price: Well Candace Dang: is. Palma Barrows: because I Ruby Price: y Palma Barrows: think Ruby Price: just Palma Barrows: I think Ruby Price: uh Palma Barrows: the scroll Ruby Price: f Palma Barrows: wheel, uh it's very handy, but the first time you get this thing in your hands, it's not to use the scroll wheel. I think uh you must uh seek for it, and up or down or Uh Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: then Nicole Scott: the rest of it is very Palma Barrows: the Nicole Scott: easy, Palma Barrows: re Nicole Scott: because there are so so Ruby Price: Yeah, Nicole Scott: n Ruby Price: I think it's very clear Candace Dang: So Ruby Price: what it Candace Dang: so Ruby Price: all does. Candace Dang: few information that you can Ruby Price: Yes. Candace Dang: easily decide Palma Barrows: Yeah. Candace Dang: what buttons w for what function. Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: But the second parts, uh like speech, etcetera, that will be harder to learn. Nicole Scott: So Palma Barrows: Okay. Nicole Scott: it is learnable um f i Palma Barrows: But Nicole Scott: i In the first place Ruby Price: It's Nicole Scott: it's very easy to use. And Ruby Price: Yeah Nicole Scott: I think Ruby Price: it's Nicole Scott: its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well, if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: of Palma Barrows: But Ruby Price: Device. Nicole Scott: uh Palma Barrows: we we've got the Nicole Scott: device. Palma Barrows: two so two uh two or three uh new things, huh? And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech, uh the scroll wheel, and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls. 'Cause Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: I Nicole Scott: yeah. Palma Barrows: think learnable is a l a less than um easy to use. Because Ruby Price: Okay. Palma Barrows: easy to use comes after Nicole Scott: Okay, Palma Barrows: learnable. Nicole Scott: just Easy Palma Barrows: I I Nicole Scott: to use Palma Barrows: think Nicole Scott: is Palma Barrows: it Nicole Scott: very Palma Barrows: a three Nicole Scott: cool Palma Barrows: or Nicole Scott: so, Palma Barrows: something. Nicole Scott: just give it a two. Ruby Price: Maybe three then. Learnable's Nicole Scott: No, Candace Dang: Mm Nicole Scott: but definitely Candace Dang: uh. Nicole Scott: better, much better than uh than uh Candace Dang: The normal. Nicole Scott: than avera Ruby Price: Yeah okay. Nicole Scott: average, yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know Ruby Price: Yep, true. Then a two. Palma Barrows: Oh. Candace Dang: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Okay. Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: New features. Techno technological innovative? Candace Dang: The speech function and Palma Barrows: The Candace Dang: the colour. Palma Barrows: speech function Ruby Price: And Palma Barrows: is Ruby Price: the Candace Dang: Colour. Ruby Price: scrollwheel, Palma Barrows: new. The scrollwheel Ruby Price: backlights, Palma Barrows: and the slide. Uh Ruby Price: slide. Palma Barrows: I think the slide Nicole Scott: Slide Palma Barrows: is Nicole Scott: is Palma Barrows: pretty Nicole Scott: not n Palma Barrows: new. Nicole Scott: is is not new. No. I Palma Barrows: Uh Nicole Scott: already Palma Barrows: I only Nicole Scott: have Palma Barrows: saw Nicole Scott: a Palma Barrows: it in a telephone, not in an Nicole Scott: Uh I Palma Barrows: remote Nicole Scott: already Palma Barrows: control. Nicole Scott: have a V_C_R_ and it's about from Palma Barrows: Okay. Nicole Scott: nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it. So Ruby Price: But also slide Nicole Scott: that's not Ruby Price: that Nicole Scott: new. Ruby Price: buttons come out, as Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: well? Okay. Palma Barrows: Okay, and the the the lightning? Nicole Scott: That's cool. Palma Barrows: Is that new? Nicole Scott: Yeah for a Palma Barrows: The lighting's Nicole Scott: Uh for Palma Barrows: new. Nicole Scott: a Candace Dang: Mm Nicole Scott: f Ruby Price: Yes. Candace Dang: it's Palma Barrows: Scrollwheel. Candace Dang: pretty new, I think. Palma Barrows: Speech? Candace Dang: Speech is new. Ruby Price: Different colours, so Palma Barrows: Yeah, different fronts for a remote control, I think that's new too. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah. Palma Barrows: So we have a pretty new uh Nicole Scott: There are no Ruby Price: That Nicole Scott: games Ruby Price: would And Nicole Scott: on Ruby Price: we Nicole Scott: it, Ruby Price: didn't Nicole Scott: that's that's Ruby Price: uh Nicole Scott: It's not a one, it's a two Palma Barrows: It's Nicole Scott: again. Palma Barrows: it's Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: it's not not L_C_D_ Ruby Price: But Palma Barrows: or Ruby Price: then Palma Barrows: something. Ruby Price: we also have Nicole Scott: If Ruby Price: the Nicole Scott: you have Ruby Price: the home station. We are forgetting about that now, but Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Uh-oh. Nicole Scott: Oh yeah, that's right. Palma Barrows: Home-station. Nicole Scott: Rechargeable. Ruby Price: We don't Candace Dang: Yeah, Ruby Price: recharge. Candace Dang: we didn't draw that too, but Ruby Price: But that's more like uh now. Nicole Scott: Yeah, just draw it afterwards. Candace Dang: Yeah, that's just a normal th s simple Ruby Price: I don't Candace Dang: thing. Ruby Price: know. Nicole Scott: If you Can you save it on the same, in the same map as the other ones? In the the Ruby Price: Uh Nicole Scott: project uh map? Ruby Price: Just save, save Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: as? Nicole Scott: Mm-hmm. Uh save as? No, that's not in the project. Candace Dang: Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven. Nicole Scott: Oh yeah, okay. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Smart Ruby Price: Okay. Nicole Scott: board. Yeah, but this one. This one is not yet in the Oh oh. Candace Dang: I think it is. Ruby Price: Yeah, it Candace Dang: No, Ruby Price: is. Candace Dang: I think it is. Ruby Price: Uh untitled? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Save. Candace Dang: Okay. Palma Barrows: Uh Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: all Nicole Scott: you still have to draw the resi Palma Barrows: the Nicole Scott: the Palma Barrows: the seven, Nicole Scott: recharger. Palma Barrows: uh all the Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: seven. Nicole Scott: And new features, so we give it a two or also again a one? No, I think i if you have games on it, then then you give you have a one. Palma Barrows: No, we Nicole Scott: But Palma Barrows: are Nicole Scott: not Palma Barrows: not extraordinary new or something. Nicole Scott: No, Palma Barrows: Tha Nicole Scott: just Palma Barrows: tha Candace Dang: Mm Nicole Scott: so Ruby Price: N Nicole Scott: it's still Palma Barrows: that Nicole Scott: a two. Candace Dang: two, I think. Nicole Scott: Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience? Do we like Palma Barrows: No, Nicole Scott: it? Palma Barrows: we we we searched for uh um a young group, audience, Nicole Scott: Yeah, but Palma Barrows: beneath Nicole Scott: l younger Palma Barrows: f forty. Nicole Scott: than forty. Palma Barrows: Yes. Nicole Scott: So we we are exactly the targeted group. Palma Barrows: Yeah, but did we reach, um with our uh style, the targeted audience? Th that's Nicole Scott: I Palma Barrows: my Nicole Scott: think Palma Barrows: question. Nicole Scott: so, yeah. You get the fancy things for younger people. And Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: you get the the aesthetic things for older people. So you want Candace Dang: and that's what attracts the Palma Barrows: Yeah. Candace Dang: young audience. So Palma Barrows: Yeah. Um Candace Dang: think that's Palma Barrows: the Candace Dang: a Palma Barrows: only Candace Dang: two Palma Barrows: point Candace Dang: or Palma Barrows: is Candace Dang: a Palma Barrows: that Candace Dang: one. Palma Barrows: we don't uh have uh uh That's that's That's this question. Candace Dang: Yeah, but s it That's basically not not handy. And I don't thi I don't see Palma Barrows: Yeah, this. So Candace Dang: Yeah. Palma Barrows: we targeted it? But we Candace Dang: Yeah. Palma Barrows: didn't follow the latest trends. Candace Dang: No. Yeah, you could Ruby Price: Mm. Candace Dang: make a Ruby Price: I Candace Dang: a Ruby Price: think Candace Dang: front Ruby Price: we followed the latest trends. Candace Dang: a front Palma Barrows: Tha these Candace Dang: that's Palma Barrows: are Candace Dang: that's Palma Barrows: the only Candace Dang: like Palma Barrows: latest Candace Dang: uh Palma Barrows: uh Candace Dang: like Palma Barrows: trends Candace Dang: a banana, Palma Barrows: I uh Candace Dang: or something. Ruby Price: Oh right. Palma Barrows: get on my computer. Ruby Price: Well uh fruit and vegetables, yeah. Nicole Scott: Yeah, you get different Ruby Price: You Nicole Scott: colours. Ruby Price: can different front uh Palma Barrows: Uh yeah, th So we had Nicole Scott: So Palma Barrows: we uh have Candace Dang: Like Palma Barrows: uh Candace Dang: a a Palma Barrows: a fruit Candace Dang: f Palma Barrows: uh Candace Dang: banana kind of Palma Barrows: Oh yeah. Candace Dang: front. Palma Barrows: But spongy will never be. Candace Dang: No. Palma Barrows: So we give ourself a three or something. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Oh. Palma Barrows: Okay. Nicole Scott: So that's eleven. Palma Barrows: That's uh What's the average? Candace Dang: Eleven divided Nicole Scott: It's Candace Dang: by six. Nicole Scott: Yeah, it is one point eight three. Palma Barrows: A perfect score. No, I don't know. Candace Dang: We're not too hard on ourselves. Ruby Price: This is a a power indicator. Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: So you can see how far it's charged up. Palma Barrows: And and Candace Dang: Okay. Palma Barrows: you need n uh a button to call it, to let it beep. Ruby Price: To call. Um Nicole Scott: Oh Palma Barrows: Call Nicole Scott: yeah, that's still Candace Dang: Yeah, but uh we have to make a speaker then too. If you want to make it beep. Nicole Scott: Yeah, maybe Ruby Price: Okay. Nicole Scott: we have to skip that one. Palma Barrows: That's Ruby Price: No Palma Barrows: Yeah, Ruby Price: no, Palma Barrows: but Ruby Price: I Palma Barrows: it Ruby Price: want that in. Candace Dang: But we can we can do it uh underneath Palma Barrows: No, we Candace Dang: the logo. Palma Barrows: need that. That's usable. Candace Dang: If you do uh Palma Barrows: That's really Nicole Scott: Okay. Palma Barrows: usable. Ruby Price: Yeah, th the speaker is very small as well, right? Candace Dang: Yeah, okay. Palma Barrows: It's uh Nicole Scott: So Ruby Price: Yes uh. Nicole Scott: I just got a financial um You s saved it Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: or Palma Barrows: I did save it. Nicole Scott: No. Okay, let's have a look at this one here, the production cost of it. If I forgot anything, just say it to Palma Barrows. It just is a battery. Yeah, there are some that they didn't mention, because recharge is not on the list. But okay. So I think we are pretty much in the right direction, because it's twelve point three Euros. Candace Dang: Mm okay. But uh Palma Barrows: That's Candace Dang: is uh Palma Barrows: fine. Candace Dang: uh Nicole Scott: So this is a regular chip incl and and a sample speaker. Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: So that's both. Palma Barrows: Come on, it's perfect. Uh twelve point three point Nicole Scott: Yeah, Palma Barrows: three. Nicole Scott: and single curved Candace Dang: But Nicole Scott: curved. Candace Dang: but is it inc Does it include a a homestation or Nicole Scott: No, that's not on the list. But that shouldn't Candace Dang: Can we Nicole Scott: be. Candace Dang: make that for uh h twenty cents? Ruby Price: Yeah, we can uh Nicole Scott: Probably. I just The b the button supplements, I didn't I d I was wondering if this special colour maybe was Ruby Price: Um Nicole Scott: I'm not sure. Ruby Price: different fronts, but standard front won't be, yeah. Nicole Scott: See it's I think Palma Barrows: Special Nicole Scott: it's okay Palma Barrows: form, Nicole Scott: like this. Palma Barrows: yeah. Nicole Scott: It's hard to say. But maybe we have to um Yeah, okay. Special colour, you can skip this one, because it's all quite normal. Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: We get different ones, that's all. So you can put a recharger in it as well. But this is expensive, the sample speaker. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: This? Nicole Scott: Yeah. Candace Dang: Yeah, it's four. Palma Barrows: Four. It's four Euros. Ruby Price: Oh, them. Is that uh included? Palma Barrows: Yeah. Ruby Price: In the twelve Euro Palma Barrows: So Ruby Price: or Palma Barrows: we Nicole Scott: Yeah, Palma Barrows: are Nicole Scott: that's included. Candace Dang: It's kind of Ruby Price: Okay, Candace Dang: weird Ruby Price: then Candace Dang: that we Ruby Price: we then we need to use Candace Dang: we Ruby Price: it. Candace Dang: get this information now, afterwards. Because Nicole Scott: Yeah, no. Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Okay, so this is uh pretty much it this. Ruby Price: Damn, solar cells are uh expensive. Nicole Scott: So I just want you Yeah, we just made it. So we can do the project evalu evaluation now for uh for everything together. Palma Barrows: Okay. Nicole Scott: Okay. We can do some discussion about this. Was there room for creativity? Candace Dang: Sure. Palma Barrows: Yes. Ruby Price: Okay. Nicole Scott: Paul, Candace Dang: Beautiful. Nicole Scott: was there room for crea creativity? Ruby Price: Mm uh i Yeah, I think so. I think uh everyone uh already. So Candace Dang: Yeah m If we got a high mark for um uh innovativeness or innovativity Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Or a different Candace Dang: then Palma Barrows: style. Candace Dang: there Ruby Price: I think Candace Dang: we Ruby Price: we Candace Dang: probably Ruby Price: uh discussed Candace Dang: have been Ruby Price: a lot Candace Dang: creative. Ruby Price: of things about it. So Candace Dang: Yeah. Palma Barrows: Yeah. We could make a lot of different uh remote controls. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Palma Barrows: So it's creativity. Candace Dang: Huh. Nicole Scott: Okay, so the leadership Was there a leadership and Ruby Price: Of course there was. Nicole Scott: Okay. What do you have to say about that? Candace Dang: No, Palma Barrows: Who was the leader? Candace Dang: I think Yeah. Nicole Scott: I dunno. Candace Dang: Just normal discussion, I think. Not Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: one leader or something. Ruby Price: One leader to check the time, etcetera. Candace Dang: Yeah. And make notes. Nicole Scott: Yeah, I know. Ruby Price: So more like a secretary. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Okay, next one. Uh team work um The the third meeting I think that one was pretty hard. We were not all We were not um Palma Barrows: Yeah Nicole Scott: agree with every Palma Barrows: yeah. Nicole Scott: not Palma Barrows: We Nicole Scott: agree Palma Barrows: were not Nicole Scott: with. Candace Dang: Yeah, Palma Barrows: finished. Candace Dang: w we Nicole Scott: We're Candace Dang: had Nicole Scott: not finished. Candace Dang: so much information, Palma Barrows: Uh. Candace Dang: that we get through email and just Ruby Price: Uh I think we we got wrong information at the wrong time. I think that was the m biggest problem. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: Like uh the prices. If we knew that before, we could have uh Candace Dang: Yeah, th Ruby Price: had Candace Dang: that's Ruby Price: discussion Candace Dang: weird. Ruby Price: really uh s really quicker. Palma Barrows: Yeah, because the prices uh could be twenty Euros or something Ruby Price: Yeah, Palma Barrows: now. Ruby Price: and if Palma Barrows: And Ruby Price: you Palma Barrows: then Ruby Price: had uh fifteen Euros, then we would it. We had Candace Dang: Hmm Ruby Price: to Candace Dang: hmm yeah. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Yeah, finance. Candace Dang: So we're bacal basically just lucky to uh Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: get the price right. Nicole Scott: But the teamwork was okay. Palma Barrows: Yeah, uh everybody could speak their uh opinion. And uh Ruby Price: I think uh everyone listen to each other. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: Like marketing said things and then we had to i include them in the design. Nicole Scott: Yeah. 'Kay. Yeah, what I have to say about uh means. The smart board is okay. Digital pen is horrible. I dunno if you use it. But if you want to download it to your computer, it's Palma Barrows: Yeah. Ruby Price: It Nicole Scott: doesn't Ruby Price: was Nicole Scott: work. Ruby Price: Just doesn't work. Nicole Scott: No. Ruby Price: Well uh Palma Barrows: Digital pen or Ruby Price: smart board would be very uh Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: nice to work with, if it worked really well. Candace Dang: Yeah, i Ruby Price: Just Candace Dang: if Ruby Price: not Candace Dang: if Palma Barrows: Yeah, Ruby Price: work Candace Dang: it would Ruby Price: too slow. Candace Dang: be faster, Palma Barrows: the drawings Ruby Price: Yeah, Candace Dang: it would be Palma Barrows: are Ruby Price: more accurate. Candace Dang: great. Palma Barrows: are hard to make, I think. Ruby Price: Yeah, it's i It should be more accurate. Palma Barrows: Precise. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: And uh I think it would be great if you could edit it from, just with a mouse, from where you're sitting. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Ruby Price: Not just pointing Nicole Scott: It's Ruby Price: out Nicole Scott: the same Ruby Price: on it. Nicole Scott: for the presenta for the presentations. You can do it from here. That's much easier than standing there. Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: And so you've Candace Dang: Yeah, and p just point with a mouse. Ruby Price: No use to draw on the board itself. It's just slows down. Nicole Scott: Yeah. Candace Dang: Yeah. Just old fashioned kinda Ruby Price: Yeah. Candace Dang: blackboard style. But Nicole Scott: Yeah, Candace Dang: you Nicole Scott: like. Candace Dang: might as well do it in normal computer style. Ruby Price: Yeah, even harder to draw like Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: this than Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: black board style. Candace Dang: And it's far too slow this way. Ruby Price: Yeah. Nicole Scott: Okay. Ruby Price: You cou You could draw on it, but not as main function. Candace Dang: No. Nicole Scott: I think Yeah, okay. Palma Barrows: Digital pen. Nicole Scott: So we made it in time. And we made a remote control. Ruby Price: We did it. Nicole Scott: In the budget, yeah. Ruby Price: New ideas found. Palma Barrows: New ideas. Candace Dang: What's that? Ruby Price: Oh Palma Barrows: For for for Nicole Scott: I don't know what it mean. Just Ruby Price: I just think if we uh Palma Barrows: To gather, or to uh work together, uh or new ideas for Ruby Price: I dunno. Nicole Scott: For remote control probably. No, for the project. Ruby Price: For remote control, a favourite for your text. Candace Dang: Hmm. Palma Barrows: No, for the prototype. New ideas. Candace Dang: Yeah, but still, you couldn't make a fancy a f you couldn't make a a prototype out of this. Because we don't have any sizes and Nicole Scott: Yeah. But it's for the next team. Candace Dang: Yeah, Nicole Scott: We don't Ruby Price: That's Candace Dang: but Nicole Scott: have to Candace Dang: it Ruby Price: for. Nicole Scott: do Candace Dang: You Nicole Scott: that. Candace Dang: can't possibly do that in such a short time, I think. Ruby Price: Yeah, this this is just the idea phase, the Candace Dang: Yeah, just brainstorming basically. Ruby Price: Yeah. Details uh Candace Dang: So are we finished? Palma Barrows: Hmm. Nicole Scott: Yes, I think just I just write a final report. Candace Dang: Okay. Ruby Price: Quite early. Candace Dang: Yeah. Nicole Scott: No, we have only four minutes left. Uh it's okay. Candace Dang: Oh okay. Ruby Price: Oh, what do we have to do now. Do we uh I thought we were done at four o'clock? Candace Dang: It's now quarter past three. So Ruby Price: Yep. Palma Barrows: I should take some pictures uh. Nicole Scott: Okay. Ruby Price: Mm we can do it afterwards, Palma Barrows: Yes. Ruby Price: so Palma Barrows: Let's play minesweeper. Ruby Price: Yeah. I found it as well. Palma Barrows: Ti-din ti-din. Ruby Price: One two three four five six seven cameras. Mm not bad. Ruby Price: So that was it. Candace Dang: Yeah. Now we can look at this. Ruby Price: This is Candace Dang: We're probably not supposed to look at this, but Ruby Price: The old versions. Candace Dang: Yeah, from the previous group. Ruby Price: They went for uh for a universal Candace Dang: The touchscreen, Ruby Price: device. Candace Dang: yeah. Ruby Price: Yeah, but also a different device. Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: Then an L_C_D_ uh would be handy. Candace Dang: Hmm. Here are the basic functions in here, the selecting dev devices. Ruby Price: Yeah, and touch screens for all our stuff, yeah. Candace Dang: Hmm. Ruby Price: I do agree with that. Ruby Price: Yeah, tu-dum. English is not so hard by the way. Candace Dang: No. Palma Barrows: I'm breaking a world record here. Ruby Price: Well, leader? Palma Barrows: Oh Ruby Price: Project Palma Barrows: shit. Ruby Price: Manager? Palma Barrows: We've got a problem, Paul. Ruby Price: You do? Yeah, Palma Barrows: Yes. Ruby Price: you have to make a choice. Palma Barrows: No it's your choice. Ruby Price: Wow, that's pretty quick. Palma Barrows: Tu-dum. Ruby Price: Uh uh um Palma Barrows: Just pick one. Ruby Price: You have to decide. It's the lower one. Palma Barrows: What's this? A bomb or Ruby Price: No no, Palma Barrows: not Ruby Price: the upper one Palma Barrows: a Ruby Price: is the bomb. Palma Barrows: bo This the bomb? Ruby Price: Yes. Palma Barrows: Wrong. Shit. Ruby Price: I knew it. Palma Barrows: I knew it. Palma Barrows: Four in a row. Ruby Price: No. Palma Barrows: Uh. Ruby Price: That's too much work. Come on. Palma Barrows: Is that previous work? Candace Dang: Yeah, this one. Ruby Price: I challenge you. Palma Barrows: Oh, that's so stupid. No, that doesn't work. Ruby Price: No, you gotta use the magic pen. Hmm. What if I put one there? Palma Barrows: That's stupid. Ruby Price: We'll see. Palma Barrows: Okay. Ruby Price: I don't agree. Palma Barrows: Mm. Palma Barrows: Sorry. Ruby Price: Yeah, you had two choices. That's gonna be draw. Or not. Candace Dang: Hmm. Palma Barrows: Too bad. Ruby Price: I'll put it here. Palma Barrows: Yeah, then Ruby Price: You Palma Barrows: I Ruby Price: are Palma Barrows: put Ruby Price: going Palma Barrows: it Ruby Price: to Palma Barrows: there. Ruby Price: put it there. Then Palma Barrows: No one wins. Ruby Price: It's a difficult choice, either here or there. Candace Dang: This is a very interesting design. Ruby Price: Ugly. Palma Barrows: It's just the same as normal. Ruby Price: Oh a pen. Candace Dang: Well it has a L_C_D_, Ruby Price: Yeah, Candace Dang: I Palma Barrows: Okay. Candace Dang: think. Ruby Price: but Then do it correctly. Palma Barrows: Stupid Candace Dang: And Palma Barrows: design. Candace Dang: what Palma Barrows: Stupid. Candace Dang: else do Ruby Price: Stupid, Candace Dang: we have? Ruby Price: the L_C_D_ screen. Palma Barrows: 'Kay wait, I'm going to draw something and you must y Ruby Price: What? Okay, I'm going to guess what you're drawing. Palma Barrows: Okay, blank. Ruby Price: No no, the new one. Palma Barrows: Oh. Ruby Price: Uh they just don't save it. Palma Barrows: Um I know uh. Ruby Price: A house? Yeah, you have to use the pen s stupid. Nicole Scott: You have to save everything, you know that, huh? Ruby Price: No, not everything. Palma Barrows: Oh. Candace Dang: Yeah, everything. Ruby Price: Pen, select Palma Barrows: Pen. Ruby Price: select pen. Candace Dang: It wants to know what we do in our spare time. Ruby Price: Okay. It's a house. A plant? Palma Barrows: No, it's Only you can know it. Ruby Price: Oh yeah, I can know it. It's a Palma Barrows: It's uh very hard to draw. Ruby Price: Okay, that makes it easier. I think I know. No, wrong. Palma Barrows: Mm. Ruby Price: I think I know what you're trying to draw, but it's wrong already. Palma Barrows: It's very Ruby Price: Yeah, you missed the right side. Palma Barrows: Fuck. F Ruby Price: No, you're wrong, you're wrong Palma Barrows: A little bit maybe, but Ruby Price: See where you're wrong now? The entrance. Palma Barrows: Yeah. Candace Dang: Warning. Finish meeting now. Ruby Price: Alright. Palma Barrows: Okay, the entrance is uh more to the left. Candace Dang: Warning. Warning. Ruby Price: You're correct. Palma Barrows: Okay. But but but I think this part Ruby Price: Yeah, but I think Oh no you made another mistake. Palma Barrows: Oh. Yeah, there are a lot of mistakes, because the walls are thick like this. Ruby Price: No I w Okay, I'm not that whiny. But uh there was a big hole here as well, and Palma Barrows: Oh, Ruby Price: there Palma Barrows: that's Ruby Price: as well. Palma Barrows: true. Uh here. Ruby Price: That's a kinda big mistake. Palma Barrows: Yeah, they're walking behind the walls. Ruby Price: Warning, finish meeting now. Guys, I think we have to finish the meeting. Candace Dang: Okay. Palma Barrows: 'Kay this is a hard one. Ruby Price: Uh? Candace Dang: Boom-boa-ring-bing. Ruby Price: What does it say? Candace Dang: Fill in the questionnaire. What now? Ruby Price: Come on. Nicole Scott: Okay, Candace Dang: Okay. Nicole Scott: yeah. Ruby Price: Yep. Palma Barrows: Okay. Candace Dang: No more chit-chat. Ruby Price: Oh you gotta finish Palma Barrows: Che-che-che-che. Ruby Price: over there? Candace Dang: Yeah. Ruby Price: In your own room? Palma Barrows: Tu-dumm. Ruby Price: I'm gonna be so lonely. Palma Barrows: Uh. Ruby Price: Mm I'll clean that up later. Palma Barrows: This is That's my new interface. Ruby Price: What's that? Palma Barrows: That's a uh edited smiley. Palma Barrows: Tom-ti-dom. Uh. Candace Dang: Okay.	Nicole Scott presented the agenda and the minutes from the previous meeting. The group discussed speech recognition , whether the remote should slide open or fold open, and what type of chip they should use. The designers presented the prototype, which resembles an ipod in appearance, and is made of transparent coloured plastic. The colours will be changeable. The remote has both buttons and a scroll wheel. The number buttons have a back-light. The group discussed adding extra buttons/functions. The prototype was evaluated and received an average overall score of 1.8. Nicole Scott went through the finances, and the total cost came to 12.3 euros, although this did not include the cost of the recharger, which was not on the price list. The group evaluated the project process, and were generally pleased with their creativity and teamwork, but were unsatisfied with the equipment.	4	amisum	train

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