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Valerie Erwin: Mm-hmm?
Valerie Erwin: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: Ooh.
Sherri Davila: So we're 'kay? On the or No. I dunno where to put it 'cause the Okay. Could you s take it off?
Michele Clark: Is that alright? or Okay.
Sherri Davila: Okay.
Michele Clark: Keeps coming off. 'S fiddly.
Valerie Erwin: Hmm.
Michele Clark: Right.
Valerie Erwin: How we sta wa how do we start Does anybody know?
Michele Clark: Oh, another one.
Valerie Erwin: So that's this Oh okay, right.
Sherri Davila: Are we free to take notes uh Okay.
Valerie Erwin: Uh.
Valerie Erwin: Hmm. Okay, just hang on a second everybody. I haven't actually looked at this yet.
Michele Clark: Ah.
Valerie Erwin: um
Michele Clark: Very nice.
Valerie Erwin: I haven't looked at it, but let's just start it off and we'll see what happens. If you're all ready.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: So is the agenda? Opening, acquaintance, tool training and project plan then closing. Project aim is a new remote control. It's original, uh trendy and it's user-friendly.
Michele Clark: 'Kay.
Valerie Erwin: Project method, functional design, individual work, another meeting, conceptual design, individual work, and a meeting of details design, individual work and a meeting. Tool training. Try out the whiteboard, every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum up their favourite characteristics of that animal.
Michele Clark: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: Um. Uh Miss Industrial Designer, would you like to
Sherri Davila: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: go first?
Sherri Davila: So are we supposed to bring the little things for the
Valerie Erwin: Yeah, why don't you just c, I think just clip on clip do you have a belt?
Michele Clark: Clip.
Sherri Davila: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: Or put 'em in your pocket,
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: yeah.
Sherri Davila: okay. So my favourite animal
Valerie Erwin: Yeah, what's your favourite animal?
Sherri Davila: 'Kay um
Michele Clark: Ah.
Valerie Erwin: Is it rude?
Michele Clark: It's an elephant.
Valerie Erwin: That's a very good elephant.
Rhonda Aubert: The back end of an elephant.
Michele Clark: Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna be able to draw that well.
Valerie Erwin: 'Kay, and you want to write up on there, it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal.
Sherri Davila: Um okay, it's big, it's got a great memory.
Michele Clark: Does it? Oh.
Sherri Davila: Supposed to have a great memory,
Valerie Erwin: Mm.
Michele Clark: Mm.
Sherri Davila: And uh dunno know why but looks like nice to Michele Clark.
Valerie Erwin: Okay.
Sherri Davila: Nice animal.
Valerie Erwin: Wonderful, well done. Do you want to use the wipe the m the
Sherri Davila: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: wiper and wipe it off? And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna
Rhonda Aubert: Aesthetic
Valerie Erwin: go next?
Rhonda Aubert: yep,
Michele Clark: I have no
Rhonda Aubert: sure.
Michele Clark: idea what my favourite animal is.
Rhonda Aubert: 'Kay, my favourite animal, uh let's see.
Michele Clark: Oh. It's
Rhonda Aubert: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before. It's a liger,
Valerie Erwin: No.
Michele Clark: A what?
Rhonda Aubert: a combination of a lion and tiger.
Michele Clark: Alright.
Rhonda Aubert: Have
Michele Clark: How.
Rhonda Aubert: you not seen Napoleon Dynamite?
Valerie Erwin: No.
Sherri Davila: No.
Michele Clark: No.
Rhonda Aubert: Oh it's a hilarious movie. You have to see it. And and it's best characteristic is it's pretty much the awesomest animal. But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it.
Valerie Erwin: Okay, well done.
Michele Clark: Great. Michele Clark?
Valerie Erwin: Yeah. Miss mar Miss Marketing?
Michele Clark: Okay. quite sure how this is gonna work. Cool. Uh well I'll try my best to draw.
Michele Clark: Can I just draw the face?
Valerie Erwin: Um yeah, I think you can just draw the face, but then you'll have to describe in writing how the rest of it looks.
Michele Clark: Ooh. It's a cat.
Valerie Erwin: That's a very pr pretty cat.
Michele Clark: Which also has what? A big fat body and big and a long tail.
Valerie Erwin: Okay, do y do you wanna do some write you wanna just write some words about it?
Michele Clark: Why? Because um cuddly. And usually cats are very friendly. Usually. And they're healing as well. They heal. And they can feel when a human's
Valerie Erwin: Wow,
Michele Clark: got problems so
Valerie Erwin: so they're kinda spiritual.
Michele Clark: So, that's why I like cats.
Valerie Erwin: Well done.
Michele Clark: There we are, that's Michele Clark.
Valerie Erwin: Okay.
Michele Clark: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: Um, I don't actually have a favourite animal, but for the for th for this meeting I'll s draw a little
Michele Clark: Mm-hmm.
Valerie Erwin: Uh. I honestly can't draw for toffee. Uh.
Sherri Davila: Really? Oh
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Sherri Davila: that's a
Valerie Erwin: no
Rhonda Aubert: A prairie dog?
Valerie Erwin: no uh
Rhonda Aubert: Oh a squirrel?
Valerie Erwin: That's exactly what it is. Uh not a very good one
Sherri Davila: Not bad I would say.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Valerie Erwin: Okay, well, you got it's a s It's a squirrel, and I like them, because they're cute and stupid.
Sherri Davila: Very good.
Michele Clark: Ah.
Rhonda Aubert: Alright.
Valerie Erwin: Right. Okay, so, I guess that was the test to see if this equipment is all working. Mm. Let's move on to the next page. Okay, project finance, selling price twenty five Euros, profit aim fifty million Euros.
Michele Clark: Market range internationally sold.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah. Production cost, ah right it's gotta be
Michele Clark: Ah right
Valerie Erwin: can't
Michele Clark: okay.
Valerie Erwin: cost any more than twelve fifty to make. experience with with remote control, so talk about who who's used what. Any ideas? Stuff like that. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. At quarter to twelve.
Rhonda Aubert: So I think before we close uh, we are expected I mean the last slide wanted us to maybe discuss longer what our what our ideas where. I mean if you wanna go back to the last slide. Uh
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Michele Clark: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: S Yeah, I think we're I mean before we close the meeting, we're supposed to come up with some ideas for
Valerie Erwin: Oh k so we're actually supposed to be doing this discussion like right now are we
Michele Clark: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: or
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Sherri Davila: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: oh okay.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: I thought this was just t giving us instructions for the re to do next,
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah,
Valerie Erwin: but
Rhonda Aubert: I think this is just the preliminary, get some rough ideas for what our experiences with remote controls have been and and what we would roughly what we would incorporate into a new one maybe.
Valerie Erwin: Okay. Right, who's got experiences with remote controls then? Pretty much everybody.
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, I think we've all got
Michele Clark: Uh.
Valerie Erwin: Um.
Sherri Davila: Is this a T_V_ one we are supposed to make?
Michele Clark: Yeah. Yeah it's a T_V_ remote control.
Sherri Davila: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: 'Kay
Michele Clark: Well.
Valerie Erwin: um.
Sherri Davila: T
Michele Clark: A new remote control for T_V_. What would I like?
Valerie Erwin: W what
Michele Clark: Um.
Valerie Erwin: You want it big do you want it small.
Michele Clark: Medium.
Valerie Erwin: Are we are we going for like like telephones are going little teeny tiny things or we are going for something that's
Rhonda Aubert: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: that's big and
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah it seems like there's like there's sort of a tension between two ideas, I mean, you want you want one remote that maybe can work uh all all of the functions of T_V_ and if you have whatever associated with T_V_ the D_V_D_ player, or
Valerie Erwin: Video
Rhonda Aubert: something like that,
Valerie Erwin: and ts hi-fi
Rhonda Aubert: but like at
Valerie Erwin: and
Rhonda Aubert: the
Valerie Erwin: stuff.
Rhonda Aubert: same time you don't wanna really busy remote with a thousand buttons on it or something.
Valerie Erwin: Maybe you
Rhonda Aubert: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: yeah now th that's the other thing is it's gotta be cheap.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: 'Cause I I I mean I was thinking something that's got different like maybe a a an L_C_D_ display on it that's got different pages for different devices,
Michele Clark: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: but that would p that would probably be quite expensive.
Sherri Davila: But how do we know how much uh, I mean, how much do we have per how
Michele Clark: Twelve
Sherri Davila: much?
Michele Clark: fifty.
Sherri Davila: Twelve
Rhonda Aubert: It
Sherri Davila: fifty.
Rhonda Aubert: g can't be more
Michele Clark: Each.
Rhonda Aubert: than twelve fifty per unit.
Valerie Erwin: Per unit, yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: Cost.
Sherri Davila: So do we have to be realistic within the budget or
Valerie Erwin: Well
Sherri Davila: Close
Valerie Erwin: at the
Michele Clark: Guess
Valerie Erwin: moment
Sherri Davila: pr I don't
Valerie Erwin: we could,
Sherri Davila: know
Valerie Erwin: wa
Sherri Davila: how
Valerie Erwin: I
Sherri Davila: much
Valerie Erwin: mean we
Sherri Davila: it
Valerie Erwin: 'cause
Sherri Davila: would
Valerie Erwin: we
Sherri Davila: cost.
Valerie Erwin: this
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: is what we th what we're doing at the moment is just saying what what we'd like, and then after we after we've found out what we can like, some different ideas, we can then go and do the research to find out if these any of these ideas are feasible
Sherri Davila: Right.
Valerie Erwin: or not. So would be nice to have something that that controls lots of different things.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: Um.
Michele Clark: Couldn't we have like one that comes out? Like so you have one in like
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Michele Clark: mm it doesn't have to be really thick. I mean remote controls can be thin bits. And then you have one for your D_V_D_ and you sort of slide it out, and then you have another one, you slide it out.
Valerie Erwin: 'Kay.
Michele Clark: have slides. And then it all comes compact
Valerie Erwin: Okay, that's.
Michele Clark: into one. So it's not you actually just putting three or four different remotes together but making them thinner, and um into one basically.
Valerie Erwin: Th that's an idea.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Michele Clark: So you just flip them out.
Valerie Erwin: Okay.
Sherri Davila: Um have uh one very complicated one on one side with all the D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ access and stuff, and then on the other side o one uh a remote control that would be very very simple with just the channel, program plus and minus, and the just the mute button, for example. I can real keep it really really simple on one side and the other side be very complicated.
Valerie Erwin: One side for kids, one side for adults.
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: I'm not sure
Sherri Davila: Or grandma
Rhonda Aubert: if that's like
Sherri Davila: as well, you know it's like what is
Rhonda Aubert: I'm
Sherri Davila: the
Rhonda Aubert: not
Sherri Davila: mute
Rhonda Aubert: sure if
Sherri Davila: button.
Rhonda Aubert: it's a good idea to have a two sided remote though, 'cause it would be very hard to use in the way that you
Sherri Davila: No, but you
Rhonda Aubert: mani
Sherri Davila: would slide
Rhonda Aubert: manipulate
Sherri Davila: it
Rhonda Aubert: it.
Sherri Davila: into uh someth like something on the back would hold like you wouldn't
Rhonda Aubert: Oh.
Sherri Davila: be able to press the buttons,
Rhonda Aubert: Oh okay.
Valerie Erwin: Like
Sherri Davila: but
Valerie Erwin: it or
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: something like a flip telephone, something like that maybe.
Rhonda Aubert: Okay.
Michele Clark: That would be cool. I was thinking
Valerie Erwin: F flip
Michele Clark: that
Valerie Erwin: it open
Michele Clark: like a
Valerie Erwin: and you've
Michele Clark: flip.
Valerie Erwin: got all the buttons, or you flip it closed and you've just got the basic buttons on the outside maybe.
Rhonda Aubert: Mm-hmm.
Valerie Erwin: Um, oh we've got five minutes left.
Sherri Davila: Start breaking up.
Michele Clark: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: But okay.
Michele Clark: Um.
Valerie Erwin: Well we've got a k we've got a few ideas there.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, we should uh I guess by the end of this meeting we should have at least a a rough conception you know stage one was technical functions design, what effect the apparatus should have. Okay. Um so I mean we still have time in our next meeting to come up with the actual concept for the user interface, but the the functions that we're sure that we want are that it can control the T_V_, but also devices connected to the to the T_V_, I mean,
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: be able to operate D_V_D_ players, things like that.
Valerie Erwin: I have got I think we should also have a back-up plan of I 'cause I I I just think that it might be expensive to make something that I mean we don't, we haven't been told it has to be something that will control everything.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: Okay. Right.
Valerie Erwin: What do you reckon?
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, I mean.
Valerie Erwin: See 'cause, I'm just thinking bearing in mind th we've gotta we have to have something that's cheap to make.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, that's true, maybe we should just concentrate on having a a good T_V_ remote, and have it be um
Valerie Erwin: I think we'll be able to come up with ideas and stuff a lot quicker.
Rhonda Aubert: have it be like ergonomic
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: so it's comfortable to use, uh simple to use, and looks decent
Valerie Erwin: May
Rhonda Aubert: and
Valerie Erwin: w you
Michele Clark: But what'll
Valerie Erwin: know, maybe
Michele Clark: make
Valerie Erwin: even
Michele Clark: it what'll make it interesting for people to buy though?
Valerie Erwin: Or
Michele Clark: I mean
Valerie Erwin: maybe
Michele Clark: if it's
Valerie Erwin: even
Michele Clark: if
Valerie Erwin: so
Michele Clark: it's
Valerie Erwin: something
Michele Clark: just like
Valerie Erwin: that's for disabled people or so people that uh b don't see very well or big buttons for touchy buttons for
Rhonda Aubert: Sorta find a niche for our remote, like market it to a certain
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: kind
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: of p kind of people, certain
Valerie Erwin: Or just
Rhonda Aubert: certain demographic
Valerie Erwin: one that looks really fucking cool.
Michele Clark: Mm-hmm.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, no
Sherri Davila: Could
Rhonda Aubert: I think
Sherri Davila: be
Rhonda Aubert: you're
Sherri Davila: really
Rhonda Aubert: right.
Sherri Davila: light or, I dunno, something special.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, rathe rather than focus on
Valerie Erwin: Otherwise
Rhonda Aubert: Y
Valerie Erwin: we'll be we'll be here all day talking about do this let's do
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: that n I think we sh I think
Sherri Davila: Yeah,
Valerie Erwin: we
Sherri Davila: 'cause
Valerie Erwin: should
Sherri Davila: at the end of the day if it says just T_V_ remote, doesn't say com combination
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Sherri Davila: with all all the r
Valerie Erwin: I mean obviously everyone we're uh you know uh sounds like we're all a bit sort of gadget heads and we like things that do everything at once, but you know, that's
Rhonda Aubert: Remotes spinning out from other remotes and
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Michele Clark: Mm.
Rhonda Aubert: having little nested remotes inside.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I mean I'd like one that makes tea as well, but that's not gonna happen.
Michele Clark: I think a flip up thing, 'cause you always have this problem of like if it's on this well I did anyway, like we had five or six remotes and they would be lying on the c on the coach, and you'd come and sit down and ooh, the telephone's the television switched on or something. So maybe something that like does have a lid or closes, so you don't accidentally press a button or
Valerie Erwin: Okay, like
Michele Clark: record
Valerie Erwin: a lock
Michele Clark: button
Valerie Erwin: f like
Michele Clark: for something.
Valerie Erwin: a lock functs function on it like you have on your telephones,
Michele Clark: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: yeah.
Michele Clark: But make it like really snazzy and cool people will want it. So make it Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah, it's gotta be sellable.
Michele Clark: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, that's true what you were saying, I mean it doesn't have to have a flip function, it can just have a lock function, so
Michele Clark: Mm.
Rhonda Aubert: that it's
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Sherri Davila: Mm.
Rhonda Aubert: not uh not usable when you don't want it to be usable.
Michele Clark: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: Okay.
Michele Clark: And even for kids as well. It's um it's safer for them, I guess. Like they don't flick onto channels and all that sl flick onto.
Valerie Erwin: No porn channel for children.
Sherri Davila: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: Okay. Um alright, so we've got some ideas, we've got um
Rhonda Aubert: I guess that's
Valerie Erwin: Let's move on.
Rhonda Aubert: good good for now.
Michele Clark: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: Oops, let's close that. Next meeting, uh
Michele Clark: W
Valerie Erwin: okay.
Michele Clark: What does I_D_V_I_D_N_M_E_ stand for?
Valerie Erwin: Industrial Designer
Michele Clark: Ah
Valerie Erwin: um
Michele Clark: ri okay.
Valerie Erwin: which is
Michele Clark: these are requirement specification.
Sherri Davila: That's
Valerie Erwin: Um.
Michele Clark: And I'm marketing.
Sherri Davila: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah, there you go. So User Interface Designer, that's
Rhonda Aubert: That's Michele Clark.
Valerie Erwin: that's
Rhonda Aubert: Okay.
Valerie Erwin: that's you, so you gotta you go, you're you're gonna be the one that's working out what what buttons
Rhonda Aubert: Right.
Valerie Erwin: we need.
Rhonda Aubert: Right.
Valerie Erwin: Um. Industrial Designer, you are the one, you know, you're gonna be working out kind of box it goes in, I guess so, um whether it's what goes into the box, somehow.
Sherri Davila: Mm. Har how it works an
Valerie Erwin: And in marketing
Michele Clark: These
Sherri Davila: Bu
Michele Clark: are requirement specification.
Valerie Erwin: User requirements specifications.
Michele Clark: So what the user requires
Valerie Erwin: Yeah,
Sherri Davila: Do you think
Michele Clark: in
Valerie Erwin: what
Michele Clark: a remote.
Sherri Davila: our two kind of overlap,
Valerie Erwin: Right, okay, yeah.
Sherri Davila: because
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah, it does
Michele Clark: I
Rhonda Aubert: seem
Michele Clark: guess
Rhonda Aubert: like our
Michele Clark: that's
Valerie Erwin: You
Rhonda Aubert: our
Valerie Erwin: two
Michele Clark: what
Rhonda Aubert: responsibilities
Michele Clark: it says.
Rhonda Aubert: have
Valerie Erwin: you two are gonna
Rhonda Aubert: some
Valerie Erwin: be
Rhonda Aubert: overlap.
Valerie Erwin: just, I think, you just double up, you know,
Sherri Davila: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: you working
Rhonda Aubert: Yeah.
Valerie Erwin: together. You're the one that's gotta go and find out do th do the research, see what people want in a remote, what buttons are used more often, and s
Michele Clark: Mm.
Valerie Erwin: stuff like that. Oh, we've been warned to finish the meeting now. Okay. Okay everyone, well done. Good meeting.
Rhonda Aubert: Alright, see you in thirty minutes.
Valerie Erwin: Yeah.
Michele Clark: So, do we take these off?
Sherri Davila: I don't | Valerie Erwin introduced the upcoming project to the team and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals and discussed why they liked those particular animals. Valerie Erwin discussed the project finances and the team engaged in a brainstorming session about various features to consider in designing a remote. Valerie Erwin then further discussed the roles of the team members. | 0 | amisum | test |
Margaret Burgos: Think we can first
Cynthia Gross: Right
Carol Carmichael: Mm.
Cynthia Gross: it was function F_ eight or something. This one right
Carol Carmichael: Tha
Cynthia Gross: there.
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Cynthia Gross: Okay.
Carol Carmichael: Who is gonna do a presentation
Cynthia Gross: Think we all Huh.
Carol Carmichael: You will as well?
Cynthia Gross: Oh I thought we all were. Yeah, I have
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Cynthia Gross: one too, okay. S
Carol Carmichael: Yep.
Cynthia Gross: Whoops I forgot to put the thing on
Margaret Burgos: Right. I just wanna 'cause basically I can't re I've really crap at remembering everyone's name so I just wanna rather than going uh Miss Marketing and Miss this and Miss that
Cynthia Gross: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: wanted to know your names again.
Carol Carmichael: Okay I'm
Margaret Burgos: just gonna leave this up here 'cause
Cynthia Gross: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: I'll
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: you know.
Cynthia Gross: Sure, that's a good idea.
Margaret Burgos: So
Carol Carmichael: I'm Catherine with a C_. C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_.
Margaret Burgos: Okay, and
Cynthia Gross: Uh Gabriel.
Margaret Burgos: Gabriel. E_L_ is
Cynthia Gross: E_L_.
Margaret Burgos: it? 'Kay. And you're
Angel Bryant: I
Margaret Burgos: s
Angel Bryant: am Reissa. R_E_I_S_S_A_.
Margaret Burgos: r
Angel Bryant: Double S_ yeah yeah. Sorry.
Margaret Burgos: R_E_I_S_S_ Okay. 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think
Carol Carmichael: Right. True.
Margaret Burgos: Uh. right.
Angel Bryant: Mm 'kay.
Margaret Burgos: Okay, right, welcome to meeting B_. Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting, basically, uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now. I am your Project Manager, and, uh yeah, I'm just here to sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going, get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically. Um right, this for the purposes of this meeting what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you, what you've been working on for the last wee while, when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and, you know, filling out silly questionnaires and things. But hopefully you've been actually been doing something productive. So we're gonna each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: Um. Then we're gonna work, you know, from each of your presentations. We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all. Um and then we'll, yeah, we'll sort of conclude anything else comes up at the end of it.
Carol Carmichael: How long is the meeting?
Margaret Burgos: This meeting it's not very long. It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now.
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: So I want each of your presentations to not be too long, five
Carol Carmichael: No problem.
Margaret Burgos: five minutes, something like that. Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy, it doesn't matter, it it just it just says that you it's that's just one particular medium. If you haven't had time to prepare one, you can draw stuff on the noteboard, you can talk to us, you can you know however you want to do your little presentation, basically, you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing. 'Cause I don't. Uh okay. So um. You okay over there? Reissa,
Angel Bryant: I'm fine. Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here
Angel Bryant: I uh yeah, yeah.
Cynthia Gross: Think she's
Margaret Burgos: or are y or
Cynthia Gross: finishing
Angel Bryant: D
Margaret Burgos: are
Angel Bryant: I mean,
Margaret Burgos: y or are
Angel Bryant: I
Cynthia Gross: up
Angel Bryant: I'm
Cynthia Gross: her
Margaret Burgos: you
Cynthia Gross: presentation.
Angel Bryant: finishing
Margaret Burgos: are you just
Angel Bryant: off my
Margaret Burgos: are you
Angel Bryant: presentation.
Margaret Burgos: just uh doing some Internet shopping there?
Angel Bryant: No no. Uh I'm done. Okay.
Margaret Burgos: Okay, jolly good. Alright, let's have um well, we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with. I
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: think the first thing we should look at is um probably the um what it is that it is actually supposed to be. So that's gonna be you Catherine,
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: if we wanna hear from you first.
Carol Carmichael: Okay. Um just connecting this.
Carol Carmichael: Are we
Margaret Burgos: You
Carol Carmichael: getting
Margaret Burgos: don't have to
Carol Carmichael: i
Margaret Burgos: worry about screwing it in just
Carol Carmichael: Really? Okay.
Margaret Burgos: there you go.
Carol Carmichael: Cool. Okay. So I've got a very quick uh Uh. Okay. so um I've oh no, you can't see a thing. Oh well, I'm gonna draw it on the board then. It's
Cynthia Gross: Oh.
Carol Carmichael: in blue uh, and I couldn't change it. We
Margaret Burgos: Ah.
Carol Carmichael: it's fine on my screen, but never mind. So um the idea is that we've got the energy source um, which in our case will pr, oh well okay, never mind. So um I think maybe uh two batteries, I dunno what they're called six, or something like
Margaret Burgos: Mm-hmm.
Carol Carmichael: that. Uh and then um then on the uh remote control itself will have um the sender for the signal, which could be uh an infra-red signal, um which will be sent by an electronic chip. And uh the chip will be controlled by the user interface. So we'll hear about that later from Gabriel.
Margaret Burgos: Mm-hmm.
Carol Carmichael: And uh the sender will send to the telly itself an infra-red signal to tell it to switch on or switch channels. Um and that's it really for the working design.
Margaret Burgos: Great. Okay.
Carol Carmichael: Sorry the presentation wasn't very uh clear
Margaret Burgos: I prefer
Carol Carmichael: but
Margaret Burgos: the pe I prefer the human
Carol Carmichael: Really?
Margaret Burgos: touch personally.
Carol Carmichael: Cool.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Carol Carmichael: Um, should I erase this
Margaret Burgos: Do you wanna
Carol Carmichael: or
Margaret Burgos: just give us a moment, I just
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: wanna copy this down. Um
Carol Carmichael: Fine.
Margaret Burgos: I dunno if you guys have got any questions for Catherine on any of this?
Carol Carmichael: Or suggestions?
Angel Bryant: Is a battery like the only way of
Carol Carmichael: Well, it's just, you don't want it plugged in really, s
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, alternate energy source, like win wind power or
Angel Bryant: No,
Carol Carmichael: In
Angel Bryant: no
Carol Carmichael: indoors.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah,
Angel Bryant: No
Margaret Burgos: you
Angel Bryant: I meant
Margaret Burgos: blow
Angel Bryant: like
Margaret Burgos: on it and i
Angel Bryant: No 'cause like cha
Cynthia Gross: Bicycle
Angel Bryant: 'cause
Cynthia Gross: power.
Angel Bryant: always changing um um batteries can get like annoying. The battery's down and maybe, I dunno,
Carol Carmichael: I dunno, swi
Angel Bryant: solar
Carol Carmichael: I
Angel Bryant: charged?
Carol Carmichael: th I th I think changing your batteries once every six months is not really a pain, but
Margaret Burgos: Yeah, it's
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: worked for the last fifty
Angel Bryant: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: years you know.
Cynthia Gross: One question I have, and I don't know how much control we have over this is um, as far as the infra-red signal, do we have control over, you know, how far away you can be from the receiving unit, the the T_V_, and still have it be operational? I mean, maybe we want one with a strong signal stream.
Margaret Burgos: How far away is your television?
Carol Carmichael: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: It's
Cynthia Gross: Uh
Margaret Burgos: never gonna be more than
Carol Carmichael: Well, the thing
Margaret Burgos: it's
Carol Carmichael: is
Margaret Burgos: never
Carol Carmichael: uh
Margaret Burgos: gonna be,
Carol Carmichael: you
Margaret Burgos: you
Carol Carmichael: you
Margaret Burgos: kno
Carol Carmichael: don't
Margaret Burgos: unless you've got a T_V_ the size of a football pitch, it's not doesn't have to go that far, does it? Doesn't have to go through a wall, because you're not gonna be looking through a wall.
Angel Bryant: Yeah,
Cynthia Gross: That's
Angel Bryant: but if
Cynthia Gross: true.
Angel Bryant: like you're on the phone in the other room and you need turn television off or something and you don't really want to go into the put the telephone down, and go into the other room.
Carol Carmichael: Well, we can make the the signal strong enough to go through walls if if you fancy it. I didn't think about that
Angel Bryant: How about
Carol Carmichael: but
Angel Bryant: Bluetooth? Instead of using infra-red, use Bluetooth.
Carol Carmichael: Why not?
Angel Bryant: Isn't
Carol Carmichael: I just
Angel Bryant: that a better
Carol Carmichael: think
Angel Bryant: signal?
Carol Carmichael: that it's it's gonna cost more and
Margaret Burgos: Yeah,
Carol Carmichael: I'm
Margaret Burgos: yeah
Carol Carmichael: I'm
Margaret Burgos: I
Carol Carmichael: not
Margaret Burgos: d it
Carol Carmichael: sure
Margaret Burgos: sounds
Carol Carmichael: it's
Margaret Burgos: like you
Carol Carmichael: you're gonna use
Margaret Burgos: you w
Carol Carmichael: it.
Margaret Burgos: don't wanna overcomplicate things.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: You know we don't need
Carol Carmichael: It's a
Margaret Burgos: it.
Carol Carmichael: fancy idea uh it's quite nice, but then I don't th I dunno, either you if you wanna watch the telly you're in the room, you are gonna
Margaret Burgos: Yeah, exactly. Basically,
Carol Carmichael: But
Margaret Burgos: we're we're desi we're designing and marketing a television remote control unit. We're not w w w w designing something that you can plug in a headset to and and you know connect to your laptop computer and stuff. It's uh
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Carol Carmichael: Oh, we can we can keep the idea if you i We can see
Angel Bryant: 'S just an
Carol Carmichael: at
Angel Bryant: idea.
Carol Carmichael: a later stage, maybe, I don't
Margaret Burgos: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: Right, well done, Catherine. Um Gab Gabriel let's
Cynthia Gross: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: uh let's hear from you on on on
Carol Carmichael: Do you need the border?
Margaret Burgos: such
Cynthia Gross: Uh
Margaret Burgos: things.
Cynthia Gross: I'm just gonna use the PowerPoint
Carol Carmichael: Okay.
Cynthia Gross: uh.
Carol Carmichael: Sorry.
Cynthia Gross: Technical. Okay.
Angel Bryant: Adjusting.
Cynthia Gross: Okay, so, while this is warming up, there it is
Angel Bryant: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: uh. So I'm doing the user interface design.
Margaret Burgos: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, and basically uh, as far as methods, I was I was looking looking at looking at uh already existing remotes, trying to find some inspiration from designs that are already out there. Thinking of what we can retain, what we can do away with, uh what we what we can perfect a little bit as far as design um. we don't want to do something that's too radical of a change, I guess, I mean people want a remote that's familiar, that has their favourite functionalities um and and does the basics,
Margaret Burgos: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Gross: but Um so we can improve what's out there and maintain that, the basic functionality that people want. Um so things that seem like absolute must-haves uh would be a volume control, um so up-down keys for that, uh channel keys up-down, but then also a numerical key pad so that they can just key directly to the channel that they want, rather than doing up-down, and uh a mute button. Uh one thing that I didn't include here, that I forgot that we talked about last time, was doing um some sort of lock uh function. Uh,
Margaret Burgos: Okay.
Cynthia Gross: I don't I dunno, uh that's one possibility. And so in the research that I was doing there's basically two types of remotes, ones that are engineering centred and ones that are more user centred, which I don't know if I can access the web page from here, but I can show you uh. Yeah. So this is a engineer centred one, so you see it's rather busy, but it also lets you play your movie, stop your movie, fast-forward, all this,
Margaret Burgos: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Gross: um freeze frame. Uh and this is a user centred one. Uh it's
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: it's easier to g just glance at this and see what's possible to do, you're not gonna be staring at it for five minutes.
Margaret Burgos: Great.
Cynthia Gross: And I judging from what what we all talked about during our last meeting I kind of gathered that that's what we were going after, uh or the direction we were going in at least. Um. So, the engineering centred ones uh provide a lot of functionality, but it can be a little bit overwhelming, so the user centred ones just focus on ease of use. Uh and this sort of overlaps with what the marketing person uh, Reissa, because
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Cynthia Gross: uh we we need to find out what what people want before we make firm decisions
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: on this. So uh, yeah, that's Angel Bryant.
Margaret Burgos: Great. Okay. Now that's I just have a q a q question for you. This w um research that you've been doing looki looking at other, you know, existing units stuff. Um have you found that anyone else has do has looked into the locking function
Cynthia Gross: No that
Margaret Burgos: or
Cynthia Gross: that that seemed like a novel idea as f as far as I know. I mean obviously another exists like you like you said in in mobile phones.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: That was sort of the inspiration for it. Um I've never seen that with in in all my years in in
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: the remote business. I've, haven't I've never seen a locking functionality. I dunno, what uh do you guys have a a yea or nay on that a feeling about whether that's really necessary?
Margaret Burgos: Um I would say it's If it's simple to do, which I think it probably should be,
Cynthia Gross: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: even if it's a physical, you know, a f a like a f a physical switch or a physical cover for the remote,
Cynthia Gross: Mm-hmm.
Margaret Burgos: even something like that,
Cynthia Gross: 'Kay.
Margaret Burgos: um then yes, it's like, you know, like s you said earlier on ab ab ab a flip thing,
Cynthia Gross: Right.
Margaret Burgos: something like that, being physical. Look into. Um I've had word down from head office that something that we should be centred well, something we should take into account is um we've gotta keep the corporate image within this remote control unit. It's gotta d look like it's in the R_ and R_.
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: You know, the the company it's it's, from what I can see from our other products, are yellow with blue writing on them.
Cynthia Gross: Right.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: Um.
Cynthia Gross: And our motto is is we put the fashion
Margaret Burgos: We put
Cynthia Gross: in
Margaret Burgos: the
Cynthia Gross: electronics.
Margaret Burgos: fashion in electronics.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Cynthia Gross: I
Margaret Burgos: There
Cynthia Gross: think
Margaret Burgos: you go.
Cynthia Gross: I think we have to carry that mental.
Margaret Burgos: So it's kinda gotta look it's gotta look new and s you know something fashionable. If
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: if remote control well, if telephones can be fashionable, then maybe remote control units can be.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Cynthia Gross: Well yeah these, I think, we can so we talked about the layout in my presentation and what I didn't mention yet really is is the sort of like the ergonomic
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: design.
Margaret Burgos: Because we
Cynthia Gross: I t
Margaret Burgos: need
Cynthia Gross: I think we can make big improvements over these two that you see here, I mean.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: Uh,
Margaret Burgos: Great.
Cynthia Gross: everything is going t ergonomic, you know, there's you know mice for your computers that are very ergonomic and keyboards and that could be one of our niches p sort of uh uh in the market, I guess.
Margaret Burgos: Okay,
Cynthia Gross: Um.
Margaret Burgos: fantastic. Right,
Angel Bryant: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: well done, Gabriel. Um Reissa.
Angel Bryant: Where does it go
Margaret Burgos: Let's
Angel Bryant: into?
Margaret Burgos: plug you in, baby.
Angel Bryant: Here?
Cynthia Gross: Yeah.
Angel Bryant: The blue thing.
Cynthia Gross: Uh, yeah, this is getting all. Mm. Yeah, then you just have to do function F_ eight and it should come up.
Angel Bryant: Well, function F_ eight. No
Margaret Burgos: Yeah,
Cynthia Gross: Yeah,
Margaret Burgos: w it
Cynthia Gross: it just takes
Margaret Burgos: it just
Cynthia Gross: a second
Angel Bryant: oh.
Margaret Burgos: takes a wee while.
Cynthia Gross: uh.
Angel Bryant: Come on. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, for our marketing report uh we observed remote control users in a usability lab, and also gave so this is research and we also gave participants um questionnaires to fill out. Um total number of people tested were a hundred just so you know, so that hundred people were tested and these were the findings. So seventy five per cent of users find the remote control ugly. Okay, so they don't like the look of the remote control. Um eighty f eighty per cent of them would spend more money if the rem remote control looked really cool and fancy. So I think we all agree with that. Um current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user. So, they don't like like the way they operate it doesn't like match how people behave. Um per cent of the users say that they only use ten per cent of the buttons on a remote, so probably if you have like one, two, three, four, five, the whole up to z ten, they probably don't use those, they only use the up and down channel.
Margaret Burgos: 'Cause we've only got five channels.
Angel Bryant: exactly. That's another thing. Um seventy five per cent of users say they zap. Not quite sure what they mean, zap, goes like.
Margaret Burgos: I think that's k flicking quickly between channels.
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, you
Angel Bryant: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: wanna navigate the channels quickly
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: I guess.
Angel Bryant: Mm. Um takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. I think especially for uh the older generation. I know my grandmother doesn't like mobile phones, takes ages to work how to use. Anyway um and they also remotes often get lost in the room, so nobody can find them.
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Angel Bryant: So maybe tracking devices is a good idea. Um personal preferences.
Margaret Burgos: Wow. You are a child of technology, aren't you?
Angel Bryant: Um so yeah um I was thinking something easy to use, especially for older people. Um has to look really cool, flashy groovy for people to buy it. And it's easy to find, so I don't know whether maybe and also we asked them whether they wanted whether they'd be interested in um voice activating. So voice activation. So and this was what we came up with. Then if you look fifteen to twenty five this is age, sorry, age groups. So fifteen to twenty five said like ninety two ninety one per cent of them
Margaret Burgos: So
Angel Bryant: said
Margaret Burgos: there
Angel Bryant: yes.
Margaret Burgos: you go, yeah.
Angel Bryant: Um so basically the majority except for the forty five to fifty five year olds for some reason didn't want a voice activated one. And neither did the older generation, but the younger generation who we are catering for, like who have most of the money nowadays, do want a voice act speech recognition
Margaret Burgos: Uh but do the younger
Angel Bryant: in a remote.
Margaret Burgos: generation have the money?
Cynthia Gross: No I would I
Margaret Burgos: They
Cynthia Gross: would
Margaret Burgos: they
Cynthia Gross: say the
Margaret Burgos: don't.
Cynthia Gross: older
Margaret Burgos: It's
Cynthia Gross: the older
Margaret Burgos: older
Cynthia Gross: people,
Margaret Burgos: generation, they're the ones
Angel Bryant: Well
Margaret Burgos: that have gone
Angel Bryant: the
Cynthia Gross: yeah.
Margaret Burgos: out
Angel Bryant: twenty
Margaret Burgos: and
Angel Bryant: five to thirty five year old, and thirty five, and the thirty five to forty five, forty five point seven per cent
Margaret Burgos: People
Angel Bryant: say no, so
Margaret Burgos: people from the age of thirty f there's a big drop off there. For people up to the age of thirty five, you're kinda saying, yeah, they want it. Um but no they're not sort of most people that have the money are people from the age of thirty five to fifty five,
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, that would be my guess as
Margaret Burgos: uh
Cynthia Gross: well.
Margaret Burgos: 'cause they're the ones
Angel Bryant: So
Margaret Burgos: that
Angel Bryant: they
Margaret Burgos: have
Angel Bryant: don't
Margaret Burgos: been working for twenty years. Um d
Angel Bryant: Well
Margaret Burgos: and tha and that's a that's quite a minority there, so yeah, it's not even like fifty fifty that's th thirty five per cent.
Angel Bryant: These guys are growing up.
Cynthia Gross: about just from the the prospective of our manufacturing cost? I mean if if it's twelve fifty per unit.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: I mean, okay, there's
Angel Bryant: Voice activation might not be the best.
Margaret Burgos: I would say scra
Cynthia Gross: Uh.
Margaret Burgos: I'd say scrap that straight off.
Angel Bryant: Um also with um with buttons, a thing called R_S_I_, so wrist sense
Cynthia Gross: Repetitive strain uh
Angel Bryant: Huh?
Cynthia Gross: rep repetitive strain injury
Angel Bryant: Yeah,
Cynthia Gross: or like
Angel Bryant: repetitive
Cynthia Gross: from doing
Angel Bryant: strains injury, so they don't I think people who watch T_V_ maybe too often, keep changing channel hurts their wrist. I
Carol Carmichael: Well
Angel Bryant: don't think
Carol Carmichael: maybe they shouldn't watch
Margaret Burgos: So
Angel Bryant: so.
Carol Carmichael: so
Margaret Burgos: y
Carol Carmichael: much
Margaret Burgos: so
Carol Carmichael: T_V_
Margaret Burgos: it's so
Carol Carmichael: then.
Margaret Burgos: it's so you got so that's something we should have a look into then
Angel Bryant: Yeah
Margaret Burgos: i when
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Angel Bryant: maybe
Margaret Burgos: desi
Angel Bryant: not
Margaret Burgos: when
Angel Bryant: so hard.
Margaret Burgos: designing the ergonomics of see
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: have a look if um there's any w any medical
Carol Carmichael: Maybe
Margaret Burgos: background
Carol Carmichael: it could
Margaret Burgos: we
Carol Carmichael: be,
Margaret Burgos: can
Carol Carmichael: instead
Margaret Burgos: find
Carol Carmichael: of
Margaret Burgos: out about
Carol Carmichael: pressing
Margaret Burgos: this.
Carol Carmichael: button it could be just touching a
Angel Bryant: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: Let's
Angel Bryant: Maybe
Margaret Burgos: jus we just want need to cover our arses so that people aren't gonna sue us in ten years' time, say your remote control gave Angel Bryant repetitive strain injury.
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, we
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Cynthia Gross: should probably consult with our legal department uh.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah. They're having a lunch break at the moment, but yeah.
Angel Bryant: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: I'll see if I
Cynthia Gross: Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: can get see if I can get hold of them for the next meeting.
Cynthia Gross: I think we can do some really in in that department, the the ergonomic department,
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: we can make some some really good improvements.
Angel Bryant: Mm. Maybe th the buttons not so high up so you don't have to press so much,
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Angel Bryant: or we just like flat buttons, something. Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: Okay.
Angel Bryant: So that is Angel Bryant.
Margaret Burgos: That's great, thank you very much for that, Reissa. Um okay, so we've basically we've decide we've d we've decided that it's gonna be, you know uh, we're going for a basic television remote. It's gotta be safe to use, it's gotta look cool.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: It's gotta be cheap. S um.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: Now going back to the uh industrial design of it, you know, we were looking at whether to use maybe infra-red or Bluetooth. I think, we should just go with the simplest option on everything, uh and that would be infra-red, energy source, that would be batteries. Uh mean we we can look into using the s, you know, the little tiny weeny batteries, all like special long-lasting batteries. Um. But a in there's no I don't think there's any point in making a remote control unit that's gonna last for fifty years, because technology will have changed and, you know, we won't have televisions in ten years' time. So
Carol Carmichael: Yep.
Margaret Burgos: I think we're all um pretty sussed on that. Um anyone have any questions?
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: Everybody happy in their work?
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, it seems like we're all on the pretty much on the same page.
Margaret Burgos: Now this is good, we've got a good structure going on. We all know where we're going to. Have you been ge has have any of you lot been getting loads of crap spam on your computers?
Cynthia Gross: Oh it's probably just you, 'cause you're Margaret Burgos.
Angel Bryant: Well, just questionnaires.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: Sell trying to sell your things.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah, stuff. Um okay. Do oh have you guys found out if we can if we can e-mail stuff to each other?
Angel Bryant: Yeah, you can.
Margaret Burgos: Right.
Cynthia Gross: Okay.
Margaret Burgos: Do all you all know my e-mail address?
Cynthia Gross: No I don't.
Angel Bryant: I
Carol Carmichael: Well,
Cynthia Gross: I
Angel Bryant: think he's participant
Carol Carmichael: in the project
Angel Bryant: one,
Carol Carmichael: announcement,
Angel Bryant: aren't you?
Carol Carmichael: you've got the addresses, I think.
Cynthia Gross: Uh
Carol Carmichael: So Project Manager, it's
Cynthia Gross: Oh, it's
Carol Carmichael: participant
Cynthia Gross: just participant
Carol Carmichael: one
Cynthia Gross: one
Carol Carmichael: at
Cynthia Gross: oh okay. Yeah.
Margaret Burgos: Can
Carol Carmichael: A_M_I_.
Margaret Burgos: you all d e-mail Angel Bryant your e-mail addresses?
Cynthia Gross: Well it's just
Carol Carmichael: You have
Cynthia Gross: w
Carol Carmichael: them
Cynthia Gross: it's
Carol Carmichael: i
Cynthia Gross: just it's just
Carol Carmichael: you have them,
Cynthia Gross: par participant
Carol Carmichael: but
Cynthia Gross: one,
Carol Carmichael: we'll
Cynthia Gross: participant
Carol Carmichael: send you
Cynthia Gross: two.
Carol Carmichael: an e-mail.
Margaret Burgos: Send
Carol Carmichael: You want
Margaret Burgos: Angel Bryant, yeah
Carol Carmichael: to have friends, don't you?
Margaret Burgos: yeah, okay.
Cynthia Gross: So are we headed towards like a b a big yellow and black remote as far as maybe that's our next meeting
Margaret Burgos: Is
Cynthia Gross: that
Margaret Burgos: it
Cynthia Gross: we
Margaret Burgos: yellow
Cynthia Gross: discuss
Margaret Burgos: and black
Cynthia Gross: that.
Margaret Burgos: or is it yellow and blue? I I kind of thought it was blue writing on a yellow background, but I might be just going
Cynthia Gross: Well,
Margaret Burgos: a bit
Cynthia Gross: it's like white on i white and blue on a black background with white with yellow borders.
Margaret Burgos: Okay.
Cynthia Gross: Maybe that's
Margaret Burgos: Well,
Cynthia Gross: like getting ahead of ourselves.
Carol Carmichael: It wouldn't
Margaret Burgos: maybe
Carol Carmichael: be
Margaret Burgos: you can come up with a few with a couple of different
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: ideas?
Angel Bryant: Can't we have different colours in the remotes, so somebody can choose different col like does
Margaret Burgos: Well,
Angel Bryant: it have
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: see the
Angel Bryant: to be
Margaret Burgos: thing
Angel Bryant: of a certain?
Margaret Burgos: is is we've gotta keep the company image. It's gotta say people have gotta look at this remote control and instantly recognise that it's a Real Reaction
Angel Bryant: But if
Margaret Burgos: i
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Angel Bryant: it's
Margaret Burgos: product.
Angel Bryant: a R_R_, it would be Real Reaction, like if it had
Margaret Burgos: There's
Angel Bryant: a symbol
Margaret Burgos: loads
Angel Bryant: on
Margaret Burgos: of
Angel Bryant: it.
Margaret Burgos: companies that
Cynthia Gross: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: called R_R_. This is slog but this is the slogan, this is the the the
Cynthia Gross: And
Margaret Burgos: the
Cynthia Gross: this
Margaret Burgos: type.
Cynthia Gross: is something that came on down from from the higher ups,
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Cynthia Gross: so, I mean, we are sort of beholden to them.
Angel Bryant: So we have to have it one colour.
Margaret Burgos: Well, not necessarily.
Cynthia Gross: Not one colour, but the
Margaret Burgos: But
Cynthia Gross: pattern
Margaret Burgos: we have to
Cynthia Gross: needs
Margaret Burgos: incorporate
Cynthia Gross: to be recognisable.
Margaret Burgos: it.
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: Not necessarily even if i it just has to ye but you have to look at the product and instantly know that it's one of
Carol Carmichael: Well
Margaret Burgos: our
Carol Carmichael: you
Margaret Burgos: products
Carol Carmichael: could
Margaret Burgos: as
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Margaret Burgos: opposed to a Sony product or a, you know, a Panasonic product. It's got to
Carol Carmichael: It could
Margaret Burgos: so
Carol Carmichael: come
Margaret Burgos: maybe, so you can have a look at our our other products and see if they all follow a s similar vein, perhaps.
Carol Carmichael: But it could come in different colours and have the R_R_ colours just
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Carol Carmichael: somewhere like just around the lock button could be the R_R_ logo
Margaret Burgos: Yeah.
Carol Carmichael: or colours and
Angel Bryant: Mm.
Carol Carmichael: If.
Margaret Burgos: Quite poss yeah. Well this is all your department. Mm okay. Well, well done everybody. And um, I think we uh stop for lunch now.
Cynthia Gross: Yeah, pretty soon I think, I guess that's now.
Angel Bryant: Are we are we finished ahead of schedule?
Margaret Burgos: We might possibly have done.
Carol Carmichael: Cool.
Cynthia Gross: Alright, see you all soon.
Margaret Burgos: If we've if we've finished at five minutes before the meeting's supposed to finish, then that means we get an extra five minutes for lunch.
Angel Bryant: 'Kay uh.
Margaret Burgos: Yeah, there you go.
Margaret Burgos: Right. I just have to there's a few little bits and pieces I have to write down, but Take your headsets off, kick back, smoke 'em if you got 'em. | Margaret Burgos had the team members re-introduce themselves and then briefed the team on his own duties and on the meeting agenda. Carol Carmichael discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed options for batteries and infra-red signals. Cynthia Gross discussed what features the remote was required to have and presented two existing products which were based on different concepts. Margaret Burgos then introduced some new requirements to bear in mind when designing the remote. Angel Bryant presented research on consumer preferences on remotes in general and on voice recognition and the team discussed the option to have an ergonomically designed remote. Margaret Burgos briefed the team on the decisions made so far and the team discussed color options for the remote. | 0 | amisum | test |
Tricia Howie: Okay um, welcome to our detailed design meeting I'm. pretty excited. Let's start it's approximately fifteen forty or something like that. Okay um the agenda we're gonna do an opening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting, what we d discussed um, then we'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria. We'll look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close. So, starting off with the um last the last one, oh I don't have it here um, but we talked about energy, we're gonna use a kinetic battery um, we want to use a simple chip, because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um, we're gonna need a scroll um, we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're using push buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu. And it sounded like we had set um like eight or nine buttons, including five pre-set channels. Okay? Let's do the look and feel design presentation first.
Annette Jones: Right, do you wanna start?
Patricia Adams: Right, well we made three different prototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one. Um we have our colours not are not fixed, but this is the general shape. Um it's you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand. You can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone, or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand, or even mean there's whole variety, you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger. Uh we have the on off button at the tip, very visible, very big. We have our up and down buttons, which are also gonna be our channel selectors, and we have our little menu button here. If you push if you're just pushing these normally, they're the menu buttons, if uh the volume buttons rather. If you press select once, they become channel changing buttons. If we press select three times, the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channel choices shows up, and you have your five presets down here. Um if people wanna grab hold of that, see how it feels in your hand. That's our number one prototype. Um do you wanna present the potato,
Tricia Howie: like a little
Patricia Adams: or
Tricia Howie: lightning
Patricia Adams: shall I
Annette Jones: Okay,
Patricia Adams: present
Tricia Howie: in it.
Patricia Adams: the Martian?
Annette Jones: um
Tricia Howie: The little lightning bolt in it,
Annette Jones: What
Tricia Howie: very cute.
Annette Jones: We call that one
Jaime Krier: I could
Annette Jones: the rhombus, uh
Tricia Howie: The v the rhombus
Annette Jones: the rhombus.
Patricia Adams: That's
Tricia Howie: rhombus?
Patricia Adams: the rhombus, yep.
Annette Jones: Um this one is known as the potato, uh it's it's a how can I present it? It's an ergonomic shape, so it it fits in your hand nicely. Um it's designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand. Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one. Um two here for adjusting. So you've got volume up and volume down on the other side here. Um the red ones are for uh changing channels, channel up and channel down and that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected. Uh this middle button here brings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other four buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it, that's the potato.
Tricia Howie: Um on, off?
Annette Jones: Uh that would be one of your channels, basically, so
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Annette Jones: like channel zero would be t to switch
Tricia Howie: Yeah we turn
Annette Jones: switch
Tricia Howie: it off.
Annette Jones: the machine off, yeah.
Jaime Krier: Could the middle button of the on-screen menu function as a power button?
Annette Jones: Um not really, it would make it hard to turn
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: the machine off, to turn your T_V_ off.
Patricia Adams: If you pressed and held it maybe.
Annette Jones: Yeah
Jaime Krier: If you like
Annette Jones: yeah,
Jaime Krier: held
Annette Jones: that
Jaime Krier: it down,
Annette Jones: that'd be one
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: way of doing it, yeah.
Jaime Krier: that would be
Annette Jones: That'd
Jaime Krier: on
Annette Jones: work,
Patricia Adams: On
Jaime Krier: off.
Patricia Adams: off, that's
Annette Jones: yeah.
Patricia Adams: a possibility, yeah.
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Patricia Adams: And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear, either way. Um it's a bit different, just a little bit more of a creative feel. Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top. We have the five preset seeds. And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional, you have your channel changing, volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle. So, that's for your consideration as well,
Annette Jones: Let's pass.
Patricia Adams: plus it's an interesting talking point to have standing up. We figured it could stand up like this on your table,
Tricia Howie: Uh-huh.
Patricia Adams: if you wanted it to, if I made the bot the bottom flat.
Jaime Krier: Sorry, what's the yellow one in the middle, I forgot.
Patricia Adams: Uh the menu select button.
Tricia Howie: Very interesting. I
Annette Jones: So that's
Tricia Howie: think that one's my favourite.
Annette Jones: So that's our three prototypes. Um basically, in terms of making decisions, what we'd need to do is first of all decide on a form uh which of the three different shapes we want, then decide what kind of button layout we want, how many buttons, and then to choose what colours we want to make the buttons and if we wanna put any text on the device, like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: a logo on it or whatever.
Patricia Adams: We were we were thinking that normally we'd go for fruity colours, but maybe we're also thinking that your sort of middle aged man, for an example customer, might not want a fruity coloured remote, so m maybe we'd have one version that's a bit toned down,
Tricia Howie: Mm 'kay.
Patricia Adams: maybe with with less contrasts on it. Yeah,
Annette Jones: Would
Patricia Adams: something still a little bright to make it
Annette Jones: Yeah,
Patricia Adams: hard to lose, but
Annette Jones: but we don't want it to look like a kids' toy.
Patricia Adams: yeah.
Tricia Howie: Now that was one thing that we brought up over email. I don't know if you picked up your email,
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: but um the f the um feature that we considered for it not getting lost.
Patricia Adams: Right. Well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive, that it it's not just like another piece of technology around your house. It's gonna be somewhere that it can be seen.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: So we're we're not thinking that it's gonna be as critical
Jaime Krier: But if it's like under
Patricia Adams: to have
Jaime Krier: covers
Patricia Adams: the loss
Jaime Krier: or like in a couch you still
Tricia Howie: It's
Jaime Krier: can't
Tricia Howie: really
Jaime Krier: see it.
Tricia Howie: Would it be very difficult to um just have an external device that like I dunno, you tape to your to your T_V_ um that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off? Do you think that would be conceptually possible?
Annette Jones: I
Patricia Adams: I think
Annette Jones: think it would be difficult technologically,
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: because if your if your remote's lost it's probably under the settee and in that case you can't you can't send an infrared sing signal to it to
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Annette Jones: find it, s so it's I'm not quite sure
Tricia Howie: That's true,
Annette Jones: how it
Tricia Howie: mm
Annette Jones: would work
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: and
Tricia Howie: 'kay.
Annette Jones: then I wonder if it's if it's more just a gimmick then anything else. Uh I mean ho how many times do you really, seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it?
Patricia Adams: There might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something, but it would take a lot more development
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: than we have this afternoon.
Tricia Howie: Okay, that's a fair evaluation. Getting lost. Um we so we do we've decided not to worry about that for now. Okay 'cause well, the designs are very bright, so you're right, they're gonna stick out, but um
Patricia Adams: So d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality? Um.
Jaime Krier: I feel like this is simil or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun, even though this what you're init I'm initially drawn to, just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one, like I I don't know why, it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking, I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one,
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: like I think that's kind of neat. But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable, sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on.
Tricia Howie: Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off? So then w we wouldn't
Patricia Adams: Mm
Jaime Krier: Ah,
Annette Jones: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: have to
Annette Jones: it's
Tricia Howie: have like
Annette Jones: possible,
Tricia Howie: a dual
Patricia Adams: yeah,
Tricia Howie: function?
Patricia Adams: that's
Jaime Krier: there we
Annette Jones: yeah,
Jaime Krier: go.
Patricia Adams: good, that's good.
Annette Jones: yeah.
Patricia Adams: Here, stick it on.
Annette Jones: Put an extra the
Tricia Howie: Sure.
Annette Jones: button on.
Tricia Howie: Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria, if you've
Jaime Krier: Well
Tricia Howie: developed
Jaime Krier: do we w
Tricia Howie: some?
Jaime Krier: like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for.
Tricia Howie: Oh okay. Okay.
Jaime Krier: That was
Patricia Adams: So where
Jaime Krier: I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do, but let Jaime Krier I have to like write something on
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Jaime Krier: the whiteboard, so.
Tricia Howie: Do you need this or just write on the white
Jaime Krier: No,
Tricia Howie: board?
Jaime Krier: I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing,
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Jaime Krier: 'cause
Patricia Adams: Right.
Jaime Krier: I think it would be redundant.
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: I dunno.
Tricia Howie: It's kind of like uh
Patricia Adams: Ooh.
Tricia Howie: like a joystick kind of thing, you know, kinda push it.
Annette Jones: Cool.
Patricia Adams: Hey.
Tricia Howie: 'Kay. Maybe a little smaller than that.
Patricia Adams: No, I kinda like it. That's hard to miss.
Annette Jones: It makes look more fruity as well.
Tricia Howie: Oh it does, it's kind of like
Annette Jones: It's like a deformed foot, I dunno.
Tricia Howie: There it could have a stem like that, 'cause I do l kind of like the stem.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: Like
Tricia Howie: Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too, 'cause it goes
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: in between
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: fingers.
Patricia Adams: Interesting.
Tricia Howie: I like this one.
Patricia Adams: Okay, is that
Tricia Howie: Variety
Patricia Adams: where people
Tricia Howie: of colours
Patricia Adams: are leaning
Tricia Howie: are
Patricia Adams: then,
Tricia Howie: nice.
Patricia Adams: the potato? I like the idea
Tricia Howie: I think
Patricia Adams: of the
Tricia Howie: I'm leaning towards the potato.
Patricia Adams: I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down, that one.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that like i withing menus there are submenus,
Patricia Adams: Hmm.
Tricia Howie: and so how do you
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: get back to the main menu?
Patricia Adams: Well that on the iPod, for example, you just every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level.
Tricia Howie: But that has a menu button separate from a select button, whereas if
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: this one's both the
Patricia Adams: Good
Tricia Howie: menu
Patricia Adams: point.
Tricia Howie: and the select button?
Annette Jones: This is, it's the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Annette Jones: You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.
Tricia Howie: Could these
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: be used for going to
Annette Jones: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: submenus
Annette Jones: so they're used
Tricia Howie: or
Annette Jones: for going into and
Patricia Adams: Maybe
Annette Jones: out of your submenus,
Patricia Adams: yeah,
Annette Jones: yeah.
Patricia Adams: maybe it can
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Patricia Adams: be one of those, if you press down and hold for two seconds, then it brings you back one level or something.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still, mm 'kay.
Jaime Krier: Okay, so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities, the yellowy one is that
Patricia Adams: The potato? Are we leaning
Annette Jones: Potato.
Patricia Adams: towards the potato?
Tricia Howie: I think so.
Jaime Krier: Okay, well we can obviously change it after we go through each different
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: one. So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: conform to the things that we said it was going to. So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: that it does meet that. So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell Jaime Krier on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all, or false, if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the for now at least, the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: What does each of you
Tricia Howie: I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two.
Jaime Krier: Okay, well give it a number,
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Jaime Krier: sorry.
Tricia Howie: I will give it a one.
Patricia Adams: Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in I'd say two, because
Jaime Krier: Okay.
Patricia Adams: c unique.
Jaime Krier: And
Annette Jones: I'll go for two.
Jaime Krier: two, awesome. Alright, and same sort of scale for functionality, is it functional? I think it's extremely functional, I'm gonna give it a one.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, one.
Jaime Krier: One?
Annette Jones: I think it's it's functional, it's also pretty basic, so I'll give it a two.
Jaime Krier: Okay.
Tricia Howie: Um functional. I think it'll get everything done, I think it might be a little confusing at first, um,
Jaime Krier: Okay. Well there's some
Tricia Howie: I
Jaime Krier: other
Tricia Howie: don't know if that's
Jaime Krier: ones,
Tricia Howie: gonna
Jaime Krier: I
Tricia Howie: be
Jaime Krier: will
Tricia Howie: a later
Jaime Krier: address
Tricia Howie: one.
Jaime Krier: that, yeah.
Tricia Howie: Okay, then I'm gonna give it a two.
Jaime Krier: Awesome, okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.
Tricia Howie: Did you give a functional?
Jaime Krier: Yeah, she said it was one.
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Jaime Krier: Um is it technologically innovative? Mm. Not really, I mean not so much, 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen, we don't have fancy chip. Other than what it looks like, I dunno if it's
Tricia Howie: Well, the kinetic
Jaime Krier: really
Tricia Howie: battery.
Patricia Adams: In the battery,
Jaime Krier: I
Patricia Adams: that's it.
Jaime Krier: kinetic battery is a big one, so.
Patricia Adams: How many people
Jaime Krier: Mm.
Patricia Adams: would notice that, though?
Jaime Krier: But it
Tricia Howie: But
Jaime Krier: but
Tricia Howie: they'll notice
Jaime Krier: we know
Tricia Howie: it after
Jaime Krier: it's there.
Tricia Howie: like a year, they'll be like hey, I have never changed the battery.
Jaime Krier: And if it's made of like latex, that whole
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: idea, that's pretty cool. I'll
Tricia Howie: Just
Jaime Krier: give it
Tricia Howie: the
Jaime Krier: a
Tricia Howie: material.
Jaime Krier: three. 'Cause it we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really
Patricia Adams: Yeah. I I would say that it's Yeah, like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative? I dunno. I'll give it a three.
Jaime Krier: Alright. Everyone else?
Annette Jones: I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique, I mean it's it's just it is just pushbuttons um, so I I'd give it a four.
Tricia Howie: Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.
Jaime Krier: Mm 'kay.
Tricia Howie: I really like that kinetic battery though.
Jaime Krier: Next, is it easy to use? Just so you know, easy to learn will be separate,
Tricia Howie: Mm
Jaime Krier: so don't
Tricia Howie: 'kay.
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: overlap them. I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two.
Patricia Adams: Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up.
Annette Jones: I'll say one.
Tricia Howie: Uh let's say two.
Jaime Krier: Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I it's spongy all the way.
Tricia Howie: Give it a one.
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: I wonder if it bounces when you drop it.
Patricia Adams: Ooh,
Jaime Krier: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: that you couldn't it'd be harder to break, harder to lose.
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: 'Cause there would be less impact maybe,
Jaime Krier: Iain, what
Patricia Adams: Mm.
Jaime Krier: do you give
Annette Jones: Yeah
Jaime Krier: it?
Annette Jones: I'd I'd give it a one.
Jaime Krier: Alright and the next is, does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables?
Annette Jones: Uh um.
Jaime Krier: Well, is it gonna be yellow?
Patricia Adams: It it might be, 'cause that's our corporate colour, isn't it?
Tricia Howie: That's right, yeah, corporate
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: colour, we didn't keep that in
Patricia Adams: We might
Tricia Howie: um
Patricia Adams: wanna keep it yellow.
Tricia Howie: well if we I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing, but if we had all the buttons in black, and a design in and the outside in yellow, that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours, one a more conservative one, one
Jaime Krier: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: that's
Jaime Krier: but if
Tricia Howie: more
Jaime Krier: you had
Tricia Howie: fruity.
Jaime Krier: like a silvery kind of white or something.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: Um and
Patricia Adams: If
Tricia Howie: can
Patricia Adams: we
Tricia Howie: we
Patricia Adams: had
Tricia Howie: have
Patricia Adams: a yellow
Tricia Howie: like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something?
Patricia Adams: Sure.
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Jaime Krier: Oh,
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: yeah. Alright, so
Tricia Howie: Fruity,
Patricia Adams: So,
Jaime Krier: I think it
Tricia Howie: so
Jaime Krier: it's
Tricia Howie: fruity.
Patricia Adams: so I think
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: it's pretty
Tricia Howie: I
Patricia Adams: fruity.
Tricia Howie: think i it's kind of mangoey too.
Patricia Adams: Oh,
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Annette Jones: Mangoey
Patricia Adams: mango
Jaime Krier: I
Annette Jones: is
Jaime Krier: okay,
Annette Jones: better,
Tricia Howie: Yes.
Annette Jones: yeah.
Patricia Adams: that
Jaime Krier: I'm giving
Annette Jones: I
Jaime Krier: it a one
Patricia Adams: that
Jaime Krier: the mango
Annette Jones: like mangoes.
Jaime Krier: put Jaime Krier over.
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Patricia Adams: That's a much more trendy than a potato
Jaime Krier: What are what's everyone's numbers?
Patricia Adams: one.
Annette Jones: Uh two.
Tricia Howie: One.
Jaime Krier: Alright um, and does the design match the appropriate behaviour? Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons, that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most. I think we really took that into account a lot, so I'm gonna give it a one.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, Jaime Krier too.
Annette Jones: Uh one.
Jaime Krier: Did you say one, Rose?
Tricia Howie: Yes.
Jaime Krier: Okay um, also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing. Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account? I think I'll give it a two, matter what you do, something
Tricia Howie: It's gonna
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: is
Tricia Howie: be
Jaime Krier: gonna
Tricia Howie: hard.
Jaime Krier: happen.
Annette Jones: Yeah, yeah.
Tricia Howie: And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing, but um
Jaime Krier: Um um worth the risk,
Tricia Howie: I
Jaime Krier: I
Tricia Howie: like
Jaime Krier: think.
Tricia Howie: how it fits in the hand though
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: I'd go with a two.
Patricia Adams: I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: 'Kay.
Patricia Adams: at first, but
Annette Jones: Yeah I'll I'll say two.
Jaime Krier: Alright, awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that, I dunno. It sort of reminds Jaime Krier of the iPod. I just got mine, I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay,
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: so and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.
Patricia Adams: The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing, but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out, but you'll have it afterwards.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.
Annette Jones: I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn, because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are and
Patricia Adams: Oh,
Annette Jones: that
Patricia Adams: good
Annette Jones: could
Patricia Adams: point.
Annette Jones: take a bit of learning at first,
Jaime Krier: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: but once you've, yeah once you'd learned how to use it, I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four.
Jaime Krier: Okay.
Tricia Howie: I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve, it'll be easy once you've done it, but
Jaime Krier: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: Alright, um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all, so
Tricia Howie: We we I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour,
Jaime Krier: Okay, so
Tricia Howie: but
Jaime Krier: in terms of not losing it, do you think that on a scale of one to seven, how easy or hard is it to lose? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four, 'cause I think that you can still if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it, you're kind of not gonna find it, but
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: anywhere
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: else it's gonna stand out.
Patricia Adams: Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three, I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally.
Tricia Howie: Mm I'd give it a four.
Annette Jones: Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like
Tricia Howie: Small
Annette Jones: that,
Tricia Howie: too.
Annette Jones: yeah.
Jaime Krier: Alright, we also said simplicity, how w how well does it address just being simple?
Patricia Adams: Simple to use or simple in design? Do you
Jaime Krier: I
Patricia Adams: know?
Jaime Krier: think overall, 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion, so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy, like
Patricia Adams: Right.
Jaime Krier: that sort of thing. Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple, so I'm gonna give it a two.
Patricia Adams: I'm give it a three I guess.
Annette Jones: I'll give it a two.
Tricia Howie: Three.
Jaime Krier: Alright, and fashionable?
Tricia Howie: It's totally fashionable.
Jaime Krier: It's
Tricia Howie: I'd
Jaime Krier: hot,
Tricia Howie: give it a one.
Jaime Krier: I mean it's a mango, come on.
Tricia Howie: Mango.
Jaime Krier: I mean how fashionable can you make a remote? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.
Patricia Adams: I dunno. I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote
Tricia Howie: I do like uh the little
Patricia Adams: or
Tricia Howie: Martian
Patricia Adams: alien
Tricia Howie: one.
Patricia Adams: or whatever he was.
Jaime Krier: Yeah, the toggle on off switch, it's really appealing. Number.
Patricia Adams: Um two.
Annette Jones: Three.
Tricia Howie: One.
Jaime Krier: And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal, that whole thing? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm. I think as long if we offer in a in at least three different colour arrangements. Um
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: yeah,
Jaime Krier: Mm-hmm.
Tricia Howie: that's good. So I'll give it a a two.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, I'll say two.
Jaime Krier: Alright, did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about?
Tricia Howie: Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo, so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is
Patricia Adams: Shall
Tricia Howie: corporate
Patricia Adams: we uh
Tricia Howie: and has an R_R_ on it.
Patricia Adams: Well I think all of them
Tricia Howie: All
Patricia Adams: should
Tricia Howie: of them
Patricia Adams: have
Tricia Howie: should
Patricia Adams: an
Tricia Howie: have
Patricia Adams: R_R_.
Tricia Howie: R_R_, yeah.
Jaime Krier: And so we're gonna do that, so it will address
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: it,
Tricia Howie: Mm
Jaime Krier: fine.
Tricia Howie: 'kay.
Jaime Krier: Okay. That's
Tricia Howie: Lovely.
Jaime Krier: Jaime Krier.
Tricia Howie: Okay, now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um, so let Jaime Krier exit out of this first. Okay um
Jaime Krier: Whoa.
Patricia Adams: Oh my.
Tricia Howie: I know. Let Jaime Krier one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick. Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using
Patricia Adams: Uh
Tricia Howie: kinetic
Patricia Adams: we're
Tricia Howie: battery,
Patricia Adams: n using
Tricia Howie: right?
Patricia Adams: kinetic, yeah.
Tricia Howie: Um and we're having one per
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: One, okay. Um electronics.
Patricia Adams: Single. Simple,
Tricia Howie: Simple.
Jaime Krier: Simple.
Patricia Adams: simple rather.
Tricia Howie: Mm 'kay. Um the case.
Patricia Adams: Uh uh uh
Annette Jones: Guess
Patricia Adams: double-curved.
Annette Jones: it's double-curved. It is pretty curvy.
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: It's very curvy, so okay.
Patricia Adams: Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements oops, we just skipped
Jaime Krier: Well
Patricia Adams: by
Jaime Krier: don't
Patricia Adams: them.
Jaime Krier: we need plastic, and
Patricia Adams: No, we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed.
Jaime Krier: Provided,
Patricia Adams: The
Jaime Krier: okay.
Patricia Adams: supplement is
Tricia Howie: The wood?
Patricia Adams: Oh, I guess it was rubber rather
Tricia Howie: I mean
Patricia Adams: than
Jaime Krier: It was
Tricia Howie: the
Jaime Krier: rubber
Patricia Adams: latex.
Tricia Howie: rubber.
Jaime Krier: and special colour, right?
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm, okay.
Jaime Krier: Do we have more than one special colour?
Tricia Howie: Yeah,
Patricia Adams: Uh
Tricia Howie: we're using
Patricia Adams: well
Tricia Howie: we're gonna
Annette Jones: Special colours,
Tricia Howie: need at least
Annette Jones: isn't
Tricia Howie: two
Annette Jones: it?
Tricia Howie: special colours. Um.
Patricia Adams: I don't know what
Jaime Krier: Per
Patricia Adams: the se the basic colour
Tricia Howie: I
Patricia Adams: is
Tricia Howie: dunno
Patricia Adams: though.
Tricia Howie: where it yeah.
Jaime Krier: Well, but we know that we're having at least three colours,
Tricia Howie: So
Jaime Krier: so
Tricia Howie: let's y say
Patricia Adams: Well,
Tricia Howie: three.
Patricia Adams: are we talking about on each colour combination or are we, you know, we'll like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours?
Tricia Howie: Yeah, I dunno.
Patricia Adams: Or
Tricia Howie: That
Patricia Adams: or
Tricia Howie: I thi
Patricia Adams: is
Tricia Howie: I
Patricia Adams: white and
Tricia Howie: thought
Patricia Adams: black,
Tricia Howie: that would be under
Patricia Adams: then
Tricia Howie: yours.
Patricia Adams: two more or Uh. I guess it's three,
Tricia Howie: We'll just say three.
Patricia Adams: three three.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: Right.
Patricia Adams: Alright.
Tricia Howie: Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well, so yeah. Interface, we're doing push buttons.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: And how many buttons do we
Jaime Krier: We
Tricia Howie: have?
Jaime Krier: have
Annette Jones: We've got
Jaime Krier: six.
Annette Jones: five.
Jaime Krier: Oh
Patricia Adams: Six,
Jaime Krier: no,
Annette Jones: Oh
Tricia Howie: Six.
Jaime Krier: five.
Annette Jones: six.
Patricia Adams: with the power. Yeah.
Tricia Howie: Anything else?
Patricia Adams: No. Oh, we'll do we wa Are the buttons in special colour, special f I didn't get information on
Jaime Krier: Oh wait.
Tricia Howie: Oh, buttons oh, so um. So the case material will just have one colour, right, but
Patricia Adams: Well,
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: then the buttons
Patricia Adams: does it
Tricia Howie: will be in special colours?
Patricia Adams: but if we're making multiple varieties of this is where I'm getting confused.
Tricia Howie: We're saying per unit.
Patricia Adams: per unit,
Jaime Krier: Yeah, per
Patricia Adams: okay,
Jaime Krier: unit.
Tricia Howie: Okay,
Patricia Adams: okay.
Tricia Howie: so each unit will only have one colour
Patricia Adams: Alright, and each
Tricia Howie: on their
Patricia Adams: button
Tricia Howie: but the case is
Patricia Adams: s
Tricia Howie: could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours, 'cause that
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: how it's designed there.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: I like
Patricia Adams: Yeah,
Jaime Krier: it like that.
Tricia Howie: So
Patricia Adams: okay.
Tricia Howie: Special form? They're all kind of just push button,
Patricia Adams: No, I think
Tricia Howie: right?
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: they're fine.
Tricia Howie: Special material?
Patricia Adams: Material, we want them rubber as well probably, yeah.
Tricia Howie: Uh. Oh do I have to do it per button, do I?
Patricia Adams: No, I don't think so. I think they're if they're all
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Patricia Adams: gonna be rubber then it that's what it matters.
Jaime Krier: Yeah, 'cause
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: it wouldn't make sense
Tricia Howie: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: otherwise, 'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: It's I mean it's two to make it rubber.
Patricia Adams: Okay.
Jaime Krier: Oh wait, so maybe.
Tricia Howie: Thirteen point seven.
Patricia Adams: Oh oh.
Tricia Howie: Yeah, what can we reduce?
Patricia Adams: Okay, let's have our buttons all be one colour.
Jaime Krier: Mm, I kind of like
Tricia Howie: Let's
Jaime Krier: the
Tricia Howie: see
Jaime Krier: buttons.
Tricia Howie: what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway.
Patricia Adams: Alright.
Tricia Howie: Okay um,
Patricia Adams: Uh.
Tricia Howie: are we sure this is double-curved? Maybe it's single-curved,
Patricia Adams: We have no idea.
Tricia Howie: we have no idea.
Patricia Adams: I dunno, I didn't get any pictures.
Jaime Krier: It's
Patricia Adams: It's single curved.
Jaime Krier: single curved.
Patricia Adams: Why not?
Tricia Howie: Well it's not the yeah. Okay, it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive, but we have a simple chip, single curve, case material is rubber and it's a special colour,
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: but that's important.
Patricia Adams: That is important.
Tricia Howie: Six buttons
Patricia Adams: How did
Tricia Howie: we
Patricia Adams: it get
Tricia Howie: have
Patricia Adams: more
Tricia Howie: to
Patricia Adams: expensive,
Tricia Howie: have six buttons.
Patricia Adams: what did you just change?
Tricia Howie: What?
Patricia Adams: It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.
Tricia Howie: No, okay, maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's
Jaime Krier: We
Tricia Howie: twelve.
Annette Jones: What was our target price again?
Patricia Adams: Twelve
Tricia Howie: Twelve
Patricia Adams: point five.
Tricia Howie: point five.
Patricia Adams: Hey
Annette Jones: Twelve
Patricia Adams: hey.
Annette Jones: point five. So we're just
Tricia Howie: So we're
Annette Jones: just
Tricia Howie: okay,
Annette Jones: about there.
Patricia Adams: We're all
Tricia Howie: I think.
Patricia Adams: set then.
Tricia Howie: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: Ish.
Tricia Howie: Okay,
Patricia Adams: Alright.
Tricia Howie: we're all set. Um save. I saved that to our um our big shared folder, so you know. Um okay, back to agenda. Um are the are the costs under twelve fifty Euro?
Patricia Adams: Yes.
Tricia Howie: Yes.
Jaime Krier: Yeah,
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: they are.
Tricia Howie: Let's move on to the project evaluation. Project process. Satisfaction with for example the room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, the means, any new ideas found. So I guess what we're gonna talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project, the information we got on the news, how we used it, if we were able to um, you know, use our creativity with the information, um how how well I guess I led it, um the how well we worked together as a team, um the digital pens, the whiteboard.
Patricia Adams: Well.
Tricia Howie: Okay.
Patricia Adams: I felt very creative. I enjoyed making the prototypes.
Annette Jones: I think we've been successful in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got cost.
Patricia Adams: I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information, like
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: what's a single-curved case, how many colours, what do colours count
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: things, but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: Yeah, I mean if I'd had more market research on the fruits
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: and vegetables, maybe we could've taken that into account.
Patricia Adams: But the fruits and vegetables, they really my creativity, so.
Jaime Krier: I know, I really did, the the whole mango idea was great. No, I mean
Patricia Adams: Do you think we
Jaime Krier: I
Patricia Adams: could
Jaime Krier: thought the pen was a little distracting for Jaime Krier personally, like its heaviness, and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages, I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: That was the last one, like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to, so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: that whole sort of thing.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: I think we all made um very significant contributions, I don't think anybody dominated it, which I thought was really good, like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over, um
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: I like our little finished products.
Jaime Krier: They're funny.
Tricia Howie: Really cute.
Jaime Krier: I kind of want one.
Patricia Adams: Can we market this as the mango remote? Should we have that somewhere on the packaging? I have a little
Jaime Krier: I'm
Patricia Adams: R_R_.
Jaime Krier: trying to think of a good pun that I could add there.
Tricia Howie: I know, let's think of it like a little jingle. Um.
Jaime Krier: I like the R_R_, that's gonna be etched in.
Patricia Adams: Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one.
Tricia Howie: Okay um
Patricia Adams: Mm. What did we
Tricia Howie: new
Patricia Adams: find
Tricia Howie: ideas
Patricia Adams: for new ideas?
Tricia Howie: found?
Patricia Adams: People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables.
Tricia Howie: Definitely.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm
Patricia Adams: I
Tricia Howie: etcetera.
Patricia Adams: I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now
Tricia Howie: Oh, I'm
Patricia Adams: after
Tricia Howie: so
Patricia Adams: reading
Tricia Howie: excited.
Patricia Adams: about them.
Jaime Krier: Yeah,
Patricia Adams: That
Jaime Krier: I didn't
Patricia Adams: was
Jaime Krier: even know they existed.
Patricia Adams: I I knew you can get watches that had them, like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery, 'cause you're always moving your wrist.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: But in other things, I think it'd be really good.
Tricia Howie: I thi yeah, that's awesome. Um okay, closing. Are the costs within the budget? Is the project
Patricia Adams: Yes.
Tricia Howie: evaluated? Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so, this is the great product kids, I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it, um
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: especially if we can produce it at twelve point three which we hope um yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and.
Jaime Krier: Yeah, Real Reaction.
Tricia Howie: I do like the Martian remote. If we could choose more than one, that would be my second choice.
Jaime Krier: Oh, that would definitely be my second choice.
Annette Jones: Mm.
Tricia Howie: Although the tog toggle I'm afraid
Annette Jones: That's
Tricia Howie: I
Annette Jones: cool.
Tricia Howie: would
Annette Jones: Let's
Jaime Krier: I
Annette Jones: all
Jaime Krier: would break
Annette Jones: let's all
Jaime Krier: it.
Annette Jones: go for
Tricia Howie: It's
Annette Jones: the
Tricia Howie: cool.
Annette Jones: yellow
Jaime Krier: I would break it.
Tricia Howie: I think I would break it.
Patricia Adams: It
Annette Jones: Break
Patricia Adams: started
Annette Jones: the stem
Patricia Adams: because
Annette Jones: off.
Patricia Adams: I wanted to have it as st as a stem and then alright, so
Jaime Krier: Oh that's funny.
Patricia Adams: Is it started as a pear, but then it started looking more and more like a Martian when I put
Jaime Krier: Kind
Patricia Adams: the
Jaime Krier: of looks like a penguin, like with no eye.
Tricia Howie: Oh
Patricia Adams: Take
Tricia Howie: yeah, it's
Patricia Adams: Jaime Krier
Tricia Howie: kind of a
Patricia Adams: to
Tricia Howie: penguin.
Patricia Adams: your leader.
Jaime Krier: I like that it stands up.
Tricia Howie: Mm-mm.
Patricia Adams: Wow, maybe I should market it to some remote control company now. So are are
Annette Jones: That was
Jaime Krier: Oh,
Annette Jones: bound to happen
Jaime Krier: sad.
Patricia Adams: poor little thing.
Tricia Howie: Mm 'kay, congratulations. Um. Anything else to say?
Jaime Krier: Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over,
Tricia Howie: Alright.
Jaime Krier: its all timed.
Patricia Adams: Oh.
Tricia Howie: Um anybody
Jaime Krier: Oh.
Tricia Howie: have I got more master classes, anybody else wanna like take a master's class?
Patricia Adams: It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.
Tricia Howie: Yeah, but check it out. So like there are all these like links, they don't go anywhere. But all that you need to keep in mind your knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.
Jaime Krier: No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this
Tricia Howie: Oh
Jaime Krier: to us? It's very it's very work relevant, 'cause people
Tricia Howie: It is.
Jaime Krier: send spam a lot.
Tricia Howie: Yes definitely I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website.
Jaime Krier: Oh here you can
Patricia Adams: Let's see,
Jaime Krier: you can
Patricia Adams: what
Jaime Krier: view.
Patricia Adams: did I get through the corporate website? It's
Jaime Krier: You can
Patricia Adams: just
Jaime Krier: just see what's
Patricia Adams: inspiration
Jaime Krier: up.
Patricia Adams: about circuit boards.
Tricia Howie: Wow.
Jaime Krier: Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That the Excel thing is pretty cool.
Tricia Howie: Yes.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, that
Jaime Krier: Here,
Tricia Howie: I
Patricia Adams: is
Tricia Howie: love
Jaime Krier: like,
Patricia Adams: pretty
Tricia Howie: Excel,
Patricia Adams: neat.
Tricia Howie: it's
Jaime Krier: basically
Tricia Howie: one of my favourite programs.
Jaime Krier: it's like inspiration, basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing, see. You didn't miss
Tricia Howie: I
Jaime Krier: out
Tricia Howie: see,
Jaime Krier: that much.
Tricia Howie: mm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, my inspiration from from last time
Tricia Howie: Spongy.
Patricia Adams: is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit, talking about circuit boards. I learned a lot actually.
Annette Jones: Mm.
Jaime Krier: Oh wow.
Patricia Adams: I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.
Jaime Krier: This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.
Patricia Adams: Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and I wrote it all down, because I thought it would be relevant, like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control, but then they're like, you don't actually need this you just
Jaime Krier: That's
Patricia Adams: need
Jaime Krier: like
Patricia Adams: to
Jaime Krier: mine
Patricia Adams: talk
Jaime Krier: it
Patricia Adams: about
Jaime Krier: was like,
Patricia Adams: the case.
Jaime Krier: would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control? And then it didn't have like any kind of table, like awesome, I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result.
Patricia Adams: It's really
Tricia Howie: I
Patricia Adams: interesting though.
Tricia Howie: I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: We had a lot of the um
Annette Jones: I
Tricia Howie: otherwise
Annette Jones: think.
Tricia Howie: the technology today was kinda cool.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: That was really neat how I got emails
Annette Jones: We didn't
Patricia Adams: and
Annette Jones: we didn't
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: use the whiteboard that much.
Tricia Howie: No.
Patricia Adams: No.
Tricia Howie: Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for Jaime Krier I
Patricia Adams: I yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case, the different looks of the case, I would have probably drawn them up, but
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: 'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually, like whiteboards are good, you know like crossing out ideas, or like if we had had like a brainstorming
Patricia Adams: Yeah, we could've
Jaime Krier: period.
Patricia Adams: put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it, but
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: But I thought we were good orally.
Patricia Adams: with only four people it doesn't really make sense.
Jaime Krier: Get
Patricia Adams: I think if you
Tricia Howie: And
Patricia Adams: had
Tricia Howie: with
Patricia Adams: a larger
Jaime Krier: crazy.
Tricia Howie: and
Patricia Adams: group
Tricia Howie: with the PowerPoint that we can all look at, like you
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: as that's
Jaime Krier: And
Tricia Howie: not
Jaime Krier: these
Tricia Howie: as necessary
Jaime Krier: might've
Tricia Howie: to have.
Jaime Krier: made us more willing to like take notes than to like
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: write up them here, 'cause we all needed them separately, kind of on the whiteboards in
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: this room.
Patricia Adams: Because we're all gonna be working in different places.
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: We if we were all gonna stay in here all the time, then
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright, but everyone needs their own, like specific notes, I guess.
Tricia Howie: Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here, did you work together or did you like do separate projects?
Annette Jones: Uh we we worked together,
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work,
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah. So it was a bit of both really, we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape and he came
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: up with the sort of potatoey, mangoey shape, and then just went from there really.
Tricia Howie: Cool.
Patricia Adams: It was fun.
Patricia Adams: So well done with the management, I felt well managed.
Tricia Howie: Oh thanks.
Annette Jones: I think we did well in
Tricia Howie: It's kinda fun.
Annette Jones: first of all giving our meetings the time, and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings.
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: Sorry.
Annette Jones: And I
Patricia Adams: That happened to Jaime Krier all the time though.
Annette Jones: I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Annette Jones: But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points at the end of the meetings, so that we we knew where to go on from there.
Patricia Adams: Yeah, I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions,
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: but we were able to do it regardless, so. I'm not usually a very decisive person, so it helped to have people say this needs
Tricia Howie: This
Patricia Adams: to
Tricia Howie: is
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: be
Tricia Howie: what
Patricia Adams: done
Tricia Howie: we'll do.
Patricia Adams: in five minutes.
Tricia Howie: I found that we did we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes
Annette Jones: Yeah, for
Patricia Adams: Especially
Annette Jones: some
Tricia Howie: in
Annette Jones: of
Tricia Howie: the
Annette Jones: the
Tricia Howie: meetings.
Annette Jones: meetings,
Patricia Adams: last
Annette Jones: yeah.
Patricia Adams: time,
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: yeah.
Tricia Howie: Yeah I think the last time we had a lot of information,
Patricia Adams: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: but at the same time not quite enough,
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: you know what I mean,
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: like we
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: we couldn't answer every single question.
Patricia Adams: Right.
Tricia Howie: Um but
Patricia Adams: And I I felt the first two meetings, that I was coming in with no information, and not sort
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Patricia Adams: of made Jaime Krier really like, ooh I don't know, throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.
Tricia Howie: It was interesting what came out like later, like as I was doing
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: the when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave Jaime Krier um, that more points came out from your
Patricia Adams: Mm.
Tricia Howie: presentation even. Um. I'm a little I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a um something for losing the remote, because
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: that was kind of a big point.
Patricia Adams: that was something like in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards
Tricia Howie: About
Patricia Adams: and
Tricia Howie: yeah.
Patricia Adams: things
Jaime Krier: Well the problem
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: like
Jaime Krier: was, even when we just were creating from the Excel file, there wasn't like a option to select to somehow
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: have it included, so there was no we could be like yeah, it
Patricia Adams: I
Jaime Krier: has
Patricia Adams: think
Jaime Krier: it
Patricia Adams: we
Jaime Krier: included.
Patricia Adams: were
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: There was no way for us to have
Tricia Howie: Considered
Jaime Krier: written
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: down
Tricia Howie: the re
Jaime Krier: that
Tricia Howie: yeah.
Jaime Krier: it was really there.
Patricia Adams: I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task.
Tricia Howie: Well it's interesting
Patricia Adams: I think we really
Tricia Howie: that
Patricia Adams: got
Tricia Howie: they
Patricia Adams: into it, I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like, ooh I'm designing a remote control, I dunno if that's just
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm,
Patricia Adams: Jaime Krier, but
Tricia Howie: yeah. It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: um
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: we weren't provided with information to discuss that. I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep,
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology that I just don't know what it is,
Patricia Adams: I think
Tricia Howie: but
Patricia Adams: there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Patricia Adams: I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least, there's only about two places that the remote is ever
Tricia Howie: Hmm.
Patricia Adams: 'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's
Jaime Krier: That's
Patricia Adams: only
Jaime Krier: like
Patricia Adams: like
Jaime Krier: saying
Patricia Adams: three
Jaime Krier: you're never
Patricia Adams: chairs.
Jaime Krier: gonna lose your keys, and I always do, anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket, like you
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Jaime Krier: just will forget that or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Jaime Krier: not remember, there's always ways to lose things.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: It d yeah, it depends on how organised you are personally, but
Patricia Adams: Yeah, or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.
Tricia Howie: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Adams: But, I mean I am notorious for losing my keys, I just I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night and couldn't find them. 'Cause I was putting groceries away.
Jaime Krier: That's funny.
Tricia Howie: Oh.
Patricia Adams: You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room.
Tricia Howie: Can't get in.
Patricia Adams: Can't get in, look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.
Jaime Krier: That's funny.
Patricia Adams: So.
Jaime Krier: I always do that, leaving it in my coat, and then like using a different coat.
Patricia Adams: Mm.
Tricia Howie: Yep.
Patricia Adams: But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.
Jaime Krier: Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.
Patricia Adams: Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a robot, alien, pear, whatever he is, have a little voice like, I am located Oh a G_P_S_ system, internal G_P_S_.
Jaime Krier: Oh man. Here you go.
Patricia Adams: Although if it's sitting still for
Tricia Howie: We
Patricia Adams: too
Tricia Howie: should
Patricia Adams: long.
Tricia Howie: make one that walks by itself.
Patricia Adams: Yes
Jaime Krier: That really
Patricia Adams: I
Jaime Krier: could get up and walk away.
Tricia Howie: Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet, that you push
Patricia Adams: Or
Tricia Howie: it and it'll
Patricia Adams: little
Tricia Howie: go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.
Patricia Adams: Or just just a wheel, you know. Just if you like you'd have a remote for your remote, that'll.
Annette Jones: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: Well, but if you could attach
Patricia Adams: zoom
Tricia Howie: them to the T_V_, then you can.
Patricia Adams: Yeah. Hmm. All
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Patricia Adams: kinds of possibilities.
Tricia Howie: Okay. Sorry, I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary,
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Tricia Howie: rather than like repeating them. Just gonna make I'm making full minutes, so that it'll
Patricia Adams: Oh.
Tricia Howie: include all of the agenda and all that.
Patricia Adams: Wow.
Tricia Howie: 'Cause that seems a little more useful.
Patricia Adams: 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.
Tricia Howie: But I didn't have like information to sloth
Patricia Adams: Yeah,
Tricia Howie: through either, so
Patricia Adams: I guess How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you, every meeting.
Tricia Howie: Most of it, mm-hmm. I added slides, um
Patricia Adams: Oh.
Tricia Howie: I added a couple slides each time, but that was about it.
Patricia Adams: Okay. Yeah, I didn't even think about adding slides, 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them and
Tricia Howie: Mm.
Patricia Adams: fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.
Tricia Howie: Well, the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points, but it wouldn't have a slide for each point.
Patricia Adams: Ah
Tricia Howie: And that's the only
Patricia Adams: yeah..
Tricia Howie: way I remember that I need to go other that point. I know personally when I do PowerPoint, that's what I do and so I had it once, even if it was just like the title of it, like the three presentations, and I would do your
Patricia Adams: Right.
Tricia Howie: three.
Jaime Krier: You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like
Tricia Howie: The slogan
Patricia Adams: No,
Tricia Howie: on it?
Patricia Adams: no,
Tricia Howie: No
Patricia Adams: definitely
Tricia Howie: no
Jaime Krier: Okay
Tricia Howie: no.
Jaime Krier: good.
Patricia Adams: not. We
Jaime Krier: 'Cause I was like, it could go around the outside.
Patricia Adams: No, I don't think we need to I
Tricia Howie: I think
Patricia Adams: think
Tricia Howie: we just
Patricia Adams: the
Tricia Howie: need
Patricia Adams: R_
Tricia Howie: the
Patricia Adams: and R_,
Tricia Howie: um
Patricia Adams: especially
Tricia Howie: the R_R_,
Patricia Adams: if
Tricia Howie: yeah.
Patricia Adams: the yellow and black one.
Jaime Krier: Is it yellow and blue?
Patricia Adams: Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.
Tricia Howie: Yeah, I was just kinda going by the web page, 'cause they didn't give Jaime Krier any clear, like yellow,
Jaime Krier: Oh
Tricia Howie: grey,
Jaime Krier: I guess it is black,
Tricia Howie: or.
Jaime Krier: grey. Grey is better than black, doesn't look so bumblebeeish.
Tricia Howie: I don't really like yellow in general.
Jaime Krier: Hey now I understand the
Tricia Howie: But
Jaime Krier: random
Tricia Howie: it
Jaime Krier: like newsclippings.
Patricia Adams: Finish meeting now.
Tricia Howie: Wasn't it interesting that um I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um the marketing choices, you know, like
Jaime Krier: Yes. I will I just feel
Tricia Howie: that
Jaime Krier: like
Tricia Howie: was
Jaime Krier: if you're
Tricia Howie: a bit
Jaime Krier: really
Tricia Howie: of a conflict.
Jaime Krier: doing like a a really big market evaluation, you wouldn't just have like one set of source, it's kind of an they were so not backed up, it would just be a sentence like we did a survey, this is what people said.
Patricia Adams: Yeah.
Jaime Krier: S mm, I dunno.
Tricia Howie: People are stupid.
Patricia Adams: I guess it i it sort of a grey, isn't it? Yellow and grey, but then the slogan's in blue.
Jaime Krier: Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons, we're good.
Patricia Adams: Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.
Tricia Howie: Maybe, like I don't know. That could always be.
Patricia Adams: Well we're not, sadly, going to actually be producing this, so.
Tricia Howie: Oh.
Jaime Krier: If they ever come out with potato
Patricia Adams: Potato mango shaped remotes.
Jaime Krier: I'm gonna
Tricia Howie: I'm
Jaime Krier: have
Tricia Howie: claiming
Jaime Krier: to
Tricia Howie: it intellectual property.
Jaime Krier: Yeah.
Patricia Adams: I can't believe a whole day is gone.
Jaime Krier: I know.
Patricia Adams: I don't feel like it's been that long. Get sucked in. Mm I haven't gotten questionnaire eight yet. | Tricia Howie recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented three prototypes which differed primarily in shape. The team felt it was not necessary to include a feature to prevent the remote from getting lost as the prototype designs were quite bright. The team conducted a product evaluation of the prototype the team liked the most. They rated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, functionality, technological innovativeness, sponginess, usability, learn-ability, its ability to be found when misplaced, simplicity, and its ability to meet the appropriate demographic. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. Tricia Howie then led the team in a project evaluation in which the team evaluated how they created the project, the information they found and used, their creativity, their teamwork, and the materials they had at their disposal. The team was generally quite satisfied. After Tricia Howie's closing, the team discussed their personal preferences in terms of the prototypes. They also further evaluated the project process and discussed what they had learned. | 0 | amisum | test |
Julia Pettis: Okay. Hi everybody and welcome to our kick-off meeting for our new product that we're gonna be designing. Um I'm Mandy and I'm Julia Pettis. And I know all your names again, Courtney,
Sonya Samuel: Yep.
Julia Pettis: Fenella and Amber.
Mildred Matheny: Yep.
Julia Pettis: Alright. Okay, so first let's go through this PowerPoint. I wonder what button I press?
Patricia Davis: Just do it on the arrow.
Julia Pettis: Yeah, or how about I just click? Okay, here is our agenda for this meeting. Um we're gonna start with our opening which was our introductions. We're gonna know other a bit better. Um tool training, we're going to, I guess, figure out what to do on this project with our individual roles. Um we're gonna make a project plan and then have some time for discussion and close up the meeting. Okay, here is our project. We're gonna make a new remote control that's um original, trendy and also user-friendly. And how we are going to do it is each of us is going to um We're gonna have discuss the functional design first, how is it gonna be used, what's the actual goal here, it has to operate T_V_, blah blah blah. And we're going to do individual work on that and then meet. Same thing with conceptual design. Just the basic overview of the project and then we're going to do individual work, meet. That's pretty much the the whole process for today. And then the detailed design, just more in-depth, get the actual schematics of the remote. Okay. Alright. First we're gonna start off by using our tools. And the whiteboard thing, do you guys wanna give that a try even though the ink wasn't working or do you wanna do it on here.
Mildred Matheny: I think we should forgo the
Sonya Samuel: We
Mildred Matheny: can't
Sonya Samuel: could
Mildred Matheny: actually see what we're.
Sonya Samuel: Yeah, we could on.
Julia Pettis: Alright, let's go forward then. Um right now so we're all gonna draw our favourite animal and then sum up our favourite characteristics of that animal. Even if you are not a good drawer like Sonya Samuel. Alright.
Mildred Matheny: Artistic skills, nil.
Patricia Davis: Fine.
Julia Pettis: Um.
Julia Pettis: Bless you.
Sonya Samuel: Oh, thanks.
Mildred Matheny: I draw like I'm in grade five.
Julia Pettis: Oh do I.
Julia Pettis: 'Kay, about one more minute.
Julia Pettis: Okay. Okay. And who would like to start us off?
Sonya Samuel: I'll go.
Julia Pettis: Alright.
Sonya Samuel: Um this is my picture. I drew fish I like fish, because uh, you know, their whole water-vascular system thing. It's pretty cool, and um they've got a pretty good habitat and they are pretty sometimes, sometimes vicious but that's okay. Yeah.
Julia Pettis: Only if they're piranhas.
Sonya Samuel: Yeah, they they're easy, you know. Yeah.
Julia Pettis: Alright. Who wants to go next?
Mildred Matheny: I'll go. I drew a kitty. It's pretty much impossible to tell that's a cat, but
Sonya Samuel: No I
Patricia Davis: No,
Mildred Matheny: I
Sonya Samuel: I
Patricia Davis: I kne
Sonya Samuel: see
Mildred Matheny: love
Patricia Davis: I
Sonya Samuel: it.
Julia Pettis: No,
Patricia Davis: knew.
Mildred Matheny: cats.
Julia Pettis: it looks like a cat.
Mildred Matheny: I love cats because they're independent, uh they pretty much know what they want, they get it, they move on.
Julia Pettis: I love cats, too.
Patricia Davis: Yeah.
Julia Pettis: I'm a cat person.
Sonya Samuel: I'm allergic to cats.
Patricia Davis: Ah.
Julia Pettis: Uh.
Mildred Matheny: I'm allergic to cats, too.
Sonya Samuel: Oh, okay.
Julia Pettis: If
Patricia Davis: In
Julia Pettis: you're
Patricia Davis: my next
Julia Pettis: around one
Patricia Davis: life.
Julia Pettis: I had a roommate who was um allergic, but if she was around my cat forever she became used to
Sonya Samuel: Yeah,
Julia Pettis: it, you
Sonya Samuel: yeah,
Julia Pettis: know,
Sonya Samuel: if you're
Julia Pettis: it's weird.
Sonya Samuel: around them for a long period of time
Mildred Matheny: I still
Julia Pettis: Okay.
Mildred Matheny: can't sleep with them in my room.
Sonya Samuel: Oh, yeah, this summer I, oh I had to live with cats. It was crazy. Yeah.
Julia Pettis: Okay, Fenella?
Patricia Davis: Um, I drew a badger.
Sonya Samuel: Cool.
Mildred Matheny: Yay.
Julia Pettis: Badger.
Patricia Davis: Well, yeah.
Julia Pettis: Good choice. Why a
Patricia Davis: Uh
Julia Pettis: badger?
Patricia Davis: I dunno, they're grumpy and nocturnal and
Mildred Matheny: Are you trying to suggest something?
Patricia Davis: Well, a little bit like the Yes. Um. And then, if you know Wind in the Willows badger.
Sonya Samuel: Oh, okay.
Patricia Davis: Yeah and then uh I don't know if you know Brian.
Julia Pettis: Alright.
Patricia Davis: Um, that kind of books. Badgers are cool in that one too.
Julia Pettis: Okay. And I'm last. 'Kay. Look at my sad sad
Sonya Samuel: No,
Julia Pettis: giraffe.
Sonya Samuel: that's good.
Julia Pettis: No, no, no, it ends up looking like some kind of a dinosaur, but whatever. I don't know even much about giraffes, but I just love the way they look. They're just such odd creatures, you know. I I like that they're so unique and individual, I guess. I don't know much about their behaviour or anything, though. Only seen a couple
Sonya Samuel: You
Julia Pettis: in
Sonya Samuel: don't
Julia Pettis: zoos.
Sonya Samuel: really have to, I
Julia Pettis: Yeah,
Sonya Samuel: mean,
Julia Pettis: but you can
Sonya Samuel: if you
Julia Pettis: appreciate
Sonya Samuel: like 'em
Julia Pettis: the way they look. Okay. Alright. Guess we're getting straight back into business here. Um the selling price for our remote is going to be twenty-five Euro, and our profit aim is fifty million Euro. We're going to make this an international product marketed in the States, in Europe, in Asia. And um our production cost to make that profit is gonna be a max of twelve fifty Euro per remote. Okay. So we're gonna talk for a little while. Um here are some topics that we might be able to discuss. Expe our experiences with remote controls um, our first ideas about this new remote, anything that you can bring to the table for this project. So.
Patricia Davis: Now?
Julia Pettis: Yeah. You wanna start us off? Anybody have anything to offer?
Mildred Matheny: Well, we wanna make a multifunctional remote, right?
Julia Pettis: Right.
Mildred Matheny: One remote for everything.
Patricia Davis: And
Sonya Samuel: Right.
Patricia Davis: everything being Wait,
Mildred Matheny: Um.
Patricia Davis: we have what, sound system, T_V_, D_V_D_, V_H_S_, uh
Mildred Matheny: I think they'll be phasing
Patricia Davis: TiVo?
Mildred Matheny: V_H_S_
Sonya Samuel: Yeah, TiVo.
Mildred Matheny: out shortly.
Julia Pettis: TiVo.
Patricia Davis: But it's still there, so
Mildred Matheny: Okay.
Patricia Davis: if po if we're gonna do it
Sonya Samuel: It needs to be compatible 'cause universal remote controls are never universal.
Julia Pettis: They're never universal. That's right. Esp e especially if you buy a a not big product, D_V_D_ player, say, usually it doesn't work
Patricia Davis: Or if
Julia Pettis: if
Patricia Davis: it's
Julia Pettis: it's
Patricia Davis: not
Julia Pettis: not
Patricia Davis: like a
Julia Pettis: one
Patricia Davis: Sony,
Julia Pettis: of the
Patricia Davis: if it's like
Julia Pettis: Yeah.
Patricia Davis: a I
Julia Pettis: Yeah.
Patricia Davis: don't know.
Julia Pettis: Something
Mildred Matheny: So
Julia Pettis: from
Mildred Matheny: we'll have
Julia Pettis: Sam's
Mildred Matheny: to figure
Julia Pettis: club.
Mildred Matheny: it how to cover all the different variances in signals.
Julia Pettis: Yeah.
Sonya Samuel: And what we need an insanely good instruction booklet, because you always have to reconfigure all your
Julia Pettis: Yeah.
Sonya Samuel: contraptions to go with the remote anyways.
Julia Pettis: 'Kay, and um another thing that I think is important is the d the design of the product, how it feels in your hand. If it's just flat and kind of boring th those don't Nobody wants to buy those any more. They want the ergonomic ones.
Sonya Samuel: They want like the flashy
Julia Pettis: Yeah.
Sonya Samuel: lights. Oh like this came
Julia Pettis: Ones
Sonya Samuel: from Las
Julia Pettis: that
Sonya Samuel: Vegas.
Julia Pettis: ones that look high-tech, too.
Patricia Davis: But at the same time are simple.
Sonya Samuel: Mm
Julia Pettis: Right.
Sonya Samuel: yeah.
Julia Pettis: So that
Mildred Matheny: What
Julia Pettis: people
Mildred Matheny: about something
Julia Pettis: like my mother
Mildred Matheny: with the curvature
Julia Pettis: can use it.
Mildred Matheny: like that matches the curvature of a hand?
Julia Pettis: Yeah. 'Kay. Anybody have any experiences with remote controls that they can remember that
Patricia Davis: Just bad ones.
Julia Pettis: Yeah. That's true.
Patricia Davis: Um.
Mildred Matheny: What kinda battery would we want to use? Because battery
Patricia Davis: D
Mildred Matheny: changing is
Patricia Davis: Double
Mildred Matheny: usually
Patricia Davis: A_.
Sonya Samuel: Double A_.
Mildred Matheny: Okay.
Julia Pettis: Do some of them use triple A_s though?
Sonya Samuel: Yeah some use triple A_s.
Patricia Davis: Some
Sonya Samuel: So
Julia Pettis: Okay.
Patricia Davis: but
Sonya Samuel: double or triple?
Patricia Davis: Yeah, I guess then it's If we need to do triple A_ we can, but most people usually have double A_s around.
Julia Pettis: Okay. Yeah. But that has to do with the size of it too.
Patricia Davis: Right.
Mildred Matheny: Yeah.
Julia Pettis: Well, w as long as we know that issue is
Sonya Samuel: Yeah, if we
Julia Pettis: Here
Sonya Samuel: want it
Julia Pettis: we
Sonya Samuel: to
Julia Pettis: can
Sonya Samuel: be more thin, then we'd probably wanna go with a triple
Julia Pettis: Triple
Sonya Samuel: A_.
Julia Pettis: A.
Mildred Matheny: Can
Julia Pettis: But
Mildred Matheny: you with a small lithium battery?
Julia Pettis: it's okay, we don't have to decide about it now, just as long as we remember battery type and size is important. Hey. Anything else? Alright. Moving along. Oh, we're closing the meeting. Next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes. Um the I_D_, which is who? Okay, you're going to think about the working design. What do you think that means? Okay. And U_I_D_,
Patricia Davis: Mm-hmm.
Julia Pettis: the technical fun functions design, making sure it does everything that we need the remote to do, the functionality of it, operating all those different things. Okay. And the marketing person, that's Courtney, is going to do the user requirements specification. I guess that means specifying um what exactly the user is going to be looking for. Right?
Sonya Samuel: Right.
Julia Pettis: I would think so. Okay. And you're gonna get more specific instructions emailed to you in just a little while. Okay, so does anybody have anything they wanna say before we close the meeting? Okay. This meeting is officially over. | Julia Pettis introduced the project to the group and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. She then introduced a tool training exercise to acquaint the group with the meeting-room tools and to help them get to know each other. Julia Pettis then presented the project budget to the group and presented the projected profit aim, the production cost, and the price point of the device. The group then began a discussion about features of remote controls and their own experiences with them. They discussed making the remote universally compatible and ergonomically-designed, and types of batteries to use. Julia Pettis instructed Mildred Matheny to work on the internal working design of the device. Patricia Davis was told to work on the technical function design, and Sonya Samuel was instructed to research the needs of users. | 0 | amisum | test |
Connie Almonte: Okay. Hi Team. Hope you had a good. Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting. Um let's get started. 'Kay, here is the agenda for today's meeting. Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager. We're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you again. And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up. And we have forty minutes again. 'Kay, just to reiterate after meeting team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control. Okay. Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations. Who would like to go first?
Jean Paille: Just trying to move mine right now.
Connie Almonte: Okay. Um Courtney would you mind starting us
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: off? Okay. Trend watching?
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Joyce Odom: Okay, so trend watching. Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics, it is kind of important how our product looks. So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next. So what they want. Right now customers want fancy versus functional. Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they like of the product that they want, describing like the in order of how much they want, fifty per of the decision of what it should look like, fancy versus functional, and then it has to also be technologically innovative, and yet easy to use. So the customer basically is confused. They don't know exactly what they want. They want us to tell them.
Jean Paille: They want everything, but
Joyce Odom: Yes.
Jean Paille: simply.
Joyce Odom: Exactly.
Jean Paille: Okay.
Joyce Odom: So we can go to next.
Connie Almonte: Mm 'kay.
Joyce Odom: Okay. So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing, shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns. So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year. I don't know really, I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: if we want to rather
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff, you'd want like a softer touch. I mean do you guys know what I mean.
Connie Almonte: Right.
Jean Paille: Yeah
Connie Almonte: Yes.
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: th
Joyce Odom: Um. But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns, I don't know if we really want to go with that, because it is just a trend, and
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months,
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: because
Connie Almonte: People
Jean Paille: I
Connie Almonte: don't
Jean Paille: I
Connie Almonte: buy
Jean Paille: can
Connie Almonte: a new remote
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: every
Joyce Odom: I mean
Connie Almonte: so
Joyce Odom: that could
Connie Almonte: often.
Joyce Odom: just be a Spring thing right now.
Jean Paille: I can address some of that issue, I think, with uh my presentation.
Joyce Odom: Okay. Awesome.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Joyce Odom: Um so design preferences, um we need easy to read like large buttons, clearly labelled so that, I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem. Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch, you said that in your design, with the bulb. Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme. Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously. That's one of our key goals, we wanna promote our product. And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something. Actually right here. So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this, where we put the buttons around, like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down, and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape. 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool. So it's classically retro.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Joyce Odom: So I mean that's just an idea if
Connie Almonte: Very
Joyce Odom: you guys
Connie Almonte: good. I like
Joyce Odom: like
Connie Almonte: it.
Joyce Odom: it.
Connie Almonte: Okay,
Joyce Odom: And,
Connie Almonte: ready for the next slide?
Joyce Odom: yep. And that's it.
Connie Almonte: Op mm 'kay.
Jean Paille: Okay.
Connie Almonte: Great. Great presentation. Ready?
Margaret Raines: Okay hang on.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Margaret Raines: See if it's there.
Connie Almonte: Which one is it?
Margaret Raines: I don't know. Hang on. Interface concepts, no?
Connie Almonte: Interface concepts new.
Margaret Raines: Either refresh it, or it sh Oh
Connie Almonte: Y
Margaret Raines: wait, maybe I didn't put it there. Hang on.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Jean Paille: Mine will always read copy of something or other.
Connie Almonte: Sorry?
Jean Paille: I I copied mine before I sent it over.
Connie Almonte: Oh okay.
Margaret Raines: Sorry, hang on. Don't know.
Connie Almonte: Oh there we go.
Margaret Raines: Okay.
Margaret Raines: Okay, um looking at the interface concept, it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this. Uh if you wanna start the next slide.
Connie Almonte: Sure.
Margaret Raines: uh can't really see there's two possible, on the r left, if you see on th on the sides of of the remote, you have the sort of scroll down, so you have that option right there. And then also there's the idea of the base. That's sort of like an idea there. And then on the right, we have what's really big trend right now, it's the iPod. It's becoming really and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons, and it's sort of like you have the both kind of trendy and hip, but also very sleek and um and very simple, but technologically advanced. So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it, but Anyway,
Connie Almonte: Mm 'kay.
Margaret Raines: next. Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight. You'd you know you're in the dark, you don't wanna be looking at the remote control. And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_, and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up. What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down, because the down arrow.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up. Um but then you have you could either do it by raised type, which could be you know, iffy, um sort of old-fashioned in a way.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: Either that or just have it by shape, for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow. And then the round ones you sort of feel by, you know, that's the second one down, that sort of thing. So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Margaret Raines: Okay. Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic. Um this is particularly geared towards children.
Joyce Odom: That's cute.
Margaret Raines: Um it's very cute, and we could probably change it to yellow, bright yellow for like a the for the company logo. Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking. Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain channels that only these children would watch, so it's like they ch watch, you know, the C_ Beebies or something like that, uh keep them away from other channels. So that's like another ar
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Margaret Raines: Um, I mean, these are three examples sort of looking at it. You have the wider section for the main controls there. Uh you could see how many buttons there are. And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons, and a simpler design. On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that, because it's more for like a D_V_D_ function which we are not gonna be using. Um. So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_, Real Reaction.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Margaret Raines: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples, but also some more, just possibilities that we could go with. None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way.
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: Hmm.
Connie Almonte: No.
Margaret Raines: But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying, well out of this one we like, you know the round section of um, b or we'd like the
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: the button size on this.
Connie Almonte: Or I like, you know, the black finish or the silver finish or whatever.
Margaret Raines: Right.
Joyce Odom: I have four of those remotes.
Connie Almonte: Good lord. Okay. Ready?
Margaret Raines: That's it.
Connie Almonte: Oh, yeah. Okay. Great job.
Jean Paille: Okay, my turn.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Joyce Odom: Okay.
Jean Paille: Whoo.
Connie Almonte: What's the title?
Jean Paille: It'll be copy of component design.
Connie Almonte: Got it.
Jean Paille: Yeah. Th that looks like it. 'Kay. So basic remote runs as follows, press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit, chip senses the connection, chip produces a morse code infra-red signal, specific to that button. So you press the button, it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button. Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre, which interprets the signal response accordingly, changes channel etcetera. So that being said Next slide, please. Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction, so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed, we need rubber for buttons, aluminium for battery y contacts, integrated circuit which consists of a diode, transistor, resonator, resistors, and a capacitator, all those basic things that make a circuit function. Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself. An L_E_D_, which is a light emitting diode, um contact discs for the buttons, plastic for the casing, and a power-source, whatever power-source we've actually determined we want. Next slide, please. Thank you. Uh personal preferences, uh to save money for the components, the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse. Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips, casing, L_E_D_, any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing, we should go for it. Next slide, please. Um just talking to the um manufacturing division. They suggested power options, solar cells, hand dynamo, and kinetic power, so you shake it and it increases the power. Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works, they have yet to get back to Joyce Odom on that. So
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Jean Paille: next slide, please.
Connie Almonte: Interesting.
Jean Paille: Suggested casing options. Okay. We can offer options for casing such as straight, curved, double-curved, you know, very specific to the customer. Options for materials, plastic, rubber, titanium, wood. I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one, because splinters
Joyce Odom: That would be amazing, though, yeah. No,
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: splinters would
Jean Paille: Um certain restrictions do apply here though. Uh latex, you can't do solar power with a latex one. So, if they want some a soft squishy rubber, they can't have the solar powered option. Double-curved, you can't
Joyce Odom: What
Jean Paille: do titanium.
Joyce Odom: is that?
Jean Paille: Um that would be two curvatures, so it would actually, if you the shape of your hand, you curve here and you curve here,
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Jean Paille: so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold.
Joyce Odom: Mm.
Jean Paille: Now if you wanted that, you can't do titanium. And uh so you functions what for the buttons, scrolling
Margaret Raines: Right.
Jean Paille: function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves. I think
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Jean Paille: I have one more slide. No, I
Connie Almonte: No,
Jean Paille: didn't.
Connie Almonte: okay.
Jean Paille: Um the manufacturing division also has said that um they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip, which we could utilise. Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip. So depends on what we decide we wanna do. In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote, we're going to have to have multiples of each type, like a double-curved in rubber, um you know, each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options. So we'll have to mix it up, make sure we produce enough of everyone. But that could also drive up the price of the
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Jean Paille: actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand, you know, double-curved
Joyce Odom: Right.
Jean Paille: wooden remotes.
Joyce Odom: Okay.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Jean Paille: And
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Jean Paille: that's all I got.
Connie Almonte: Alright, well thank you for those informative presentations. Let's go back to um Now we have to make some decisions. Where were we?
Margaret Raines: Let Joyce Odom just add one more thing that I couldn't say before,
Connie Almonte: Sure.
Margaret Raines: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition. Um.
Joyce Odom: Oh this the thing we were talking about earlier.
Margaret Raines: Right except that it's sort of odd, and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are, um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for So, you would say like, good morning, coffeemaker, and it would respond, good morning, Jill, but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work, 'cause do you programme do we program the responses and the questions. So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question, and can't change it
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: in order for it to be recognised, or can it be altered in a certain way, or does the actually user program it, to
Connie Almonte: Right.
Margaret Raines: say a channel means this.
Joyce Odom: Yeah, like
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: using the menu to be like, enter your name into the screen like on the menu options. So
Margaret Raines: Right,
Joyce Odom: that way the
Margaret Raines: so it's got
Joyce Odom: remote
Margaret Raines: like a limited
Joyce Odom: reads it.
Margaret Raines: memory and programme it. So it's sort of iffy,
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: I feel like voice recognition would be, I don't know,
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Joyce Odom: w it would be too hard to really
Connie Almonte: Programme.
Joyce Odom: I mean we could do it, but
Connie Almonte: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that
Joyce Odom: Technology.
Connie Almonte: would, you know, technology
Jean Paille: Well, we are making the chip.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Jean Paille: So, I mean But, I guess, we have to look at w what our production cost is for the chip itself
Joyce Odom: And
Jean Paille: anyway.
Joyce Odom: it is a growing trend,
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: the
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: higher technological, like the, I mean just like the more advanced it is,
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: the better it'll
Jean Paille: I
Joyce Odom: sell.
Jean Paille: I thought offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different, you know I think we'd have to decide on the power options, maybe.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Jean Paille: So
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Jean Paille: that
Joyce Odom: 'cause
Jean Paille: we
Joyce Odom: we
Jean Paille: could
Joyce Odom: need to
Jean Paille: reduce
Joyce Odom: know how big
Jean Paille: cost.
Joyce Odom: it's gonna be
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: and how heavy.
Connie Almonte: Okay, that kind of brings us to this, let's let's see
Jean Paille: Okay.
Connie Almonte: if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost. Um. Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier?
Joyce Odom: Oh the base, yeah.
Connie Almonte: The base, the charging base
Jean Paille: I
Margaret Raines: I
Jean Paille: think
Margaret Raines: always
Jean Paille: the
Connie Almonte: with
Margaret Raines: feel
Jean Paille: p
Connie Almonte: rechargeable
Margaret Raines: like first
Connie Almonte: batteries?
Margaret Raines: I wanna know what it looks like, before 'Cause
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Margaret Raines: if it's something really really small, then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it, that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up
Connie Almonte: Yeah,
Joyce Odom: W
Connie Almonte: and we don't have multiple things that it has to control, it just has to control the T_V_. It's not gonna be a huge universal remote.
Joyce Odom: We
Margaret Raines: Right.
Joyce Odom: need to decide, well so we can figure how big it's gonna be, like
Connie Almonte: What
Joyce Odom: exactly
Connie Almonte: size battery
Joyce Odom: what
Connie Almonte: and
Joyce Odom: buttons we want and exactly
Margaret Raines: Well, the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons, so we want
Joyce Odom: It could
Margaret Raines: it to
Joyce Odom: be
Margaret Raines: be
Joyce Odom: like
Margaret Raines: bigger
Joyce Odom: this.
Margaret Raines: than this,
Joyce Odom: Yes. I'd, well
Margaret Raines: 'cause
Joyce Odom: uh
Margaret Raines: it still fits in your hand, so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial, but not necessarily full of buttons.
Joyce Odom: This one is really comfortable, like I like the sides whatever,
Margaret Raines: Are you gonna
Joyce Odom: because
Margaret Raines: lose it easier?
Joyce Odom: But if we have the um, the locator, then we don't have to worry about that.
Jean Paille: That's true.
Joyce Odom: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device.
Jean Paille: If
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: we do a voice-activated locator, though, we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip. So
Joyce Odom: Hmm.
Margaret Raines: So i That's the other thing, it's like You know Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size period?
Joyce Odom: Two double A_s, for this size.
Margaret Raines: But like, you know, if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be
Joyce Odom: Right.
Margaret Raines: have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size.
Jean Paille: Honestly, I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small, compact
Connie Almonte: Right. I agree,
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: it's
Margaret Raines: So
Connie Almonte: either gonna
Margaret Raines: we
Connie Almonte: be
Margaret Raines: sh
Connie Almonte: bigger with a base or smaller
Joyce Odom: Smaller,
Connie Almonte: with
Joyce Odom: without
Connie Almonte: just
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: A battery like
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: Mm
Connie Almonte: this
Jean Paille: yeah.
Connie Almonte: guy. Alright, so what direction do you want to go in? You wanna vote?
Joyce Odom: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one, I think that seems way more advanced.
Connie Almonte: I'm kind of
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: I'm kind of
Margaret Raines: I'm
Connie Almonte: leaning in the
Margaret Raines: a
Connie Almonte: direction
Margaret Raines: away
Connie Almonte: of this
Margaret Raines: from
Connie Almonte: kind of
Margaret Raines: the base.
Connie Almonte: bigger and
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: the
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: base.
Jean Paille: 'Kay
Connie Almonte: That just
Jean Paille: so
Connie Almonte: seems so clunky and
Joyce Odom: Yeah, because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now, those trends the smaller
Margaret Raines: Smaller
Joyce Odom: the
Margaret Raines: and smaller, yeah,
Joyce Odom: hotter
Margaret Raines: yeah, yeah.
Joyce Odom: it is, yeah
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Jean Paille: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash.
Joyce Odom: Oh.
Margaret Raines: You're kidding.
Jean Paille: You know it happens.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: I've had three watches go that way too.
Margaret Raines: Oh watches
Joyce Odom: Ouch.
Margaret Raines: I've but I've never washed a cell
Joyce Odom: A phone,
Margaret Raines: phone.
Joyce Odom: whoa, that would wow, that would hurt.
Connie Almonte: Okay,
Jean Paille: Pieces
Connie Almonte: so
Jean Paille: everywhere.
Connie Almonte: what kind of material do we want to be made out of?
Jean Paille: Well, we have lots of options. I don't think wood is a viable
Joyce Odom: Yeah
Jean Paille: option.
Joyce Odom: wood.
Connie Almonte: No.
Margaret Raines: Well, titanium
Connie Almonte: Oh what did you Oh sorry,
Margaret Raines: s
Connie Almonte: go ahead.
Margaret Raines: I was saying that titanium, if we're being restricted then I would probably lean away from that.
Joyce Odom: Yeah, 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip, titanium will be more expensive.
Connie Almonte: Right.
Jean Paille: However,
Connie Almonte: What would you recommend?
Jean Paille: well,
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro right?
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market
Margaret Raines: That'll
Jean Paille: then
Margaret Raines: Yeah,
Jean Paille: you could
Margaret Raines: exactly.
Jean Paille: produce a few in titanium,
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Jean Paille: make them a rarity
Margaret Raines: The selling
Jean Paille: so to
Margaret Raines: point,
Joyce Odom: We
Jean Paille: speak.
Joyce Odom: could
Margaret Raines: yeah.
Joyce Odom: do that, because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more
Margaret Raines: Are we
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Margaret Raines: restricted
Joyce Odom: if
Margaret Raines: by this?
Jean Paille: Well the
Connie Almonte: I
Jean Paille: original
Margaret Raines: Twenty five
Connie Almonte: I think
Margaret Raines: Euros
Connie Almonte: we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm
Jean Paille: Okay.
Connie Almonte: not sure that we'll have the time and money to produce a whole array of remotes. If this was a successful remote, we might then produce a higher end version of it, I think.
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: Good plan.
Jean Paille: Good plan.
Connie Almonte: Okay, so we wanna go for plastic, or what would you recommend for materials?
Jean Paille: Honestly I'd
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Jean Paille: recommend like um uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power, I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex, because we could produce, you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour. We could
Joyce Odom: Oh.
Connie Almonte: Mm-hmm.
Jean Paille: do uh one that fits
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Jean Paille: in with the trends of the year so, because this year is all fruit, God only
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Jean Paille: knows why,
Joyce Odom: who knows.
Jean Paille: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids, you know
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Margaret Raines: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come
Joyce Odom: O
Margaret Raines: back
Joyce Odom: or we
Margaret Raines: and
Joyce Odom: could
Margaret Raines: swap
Joyce Odom: like take
Connie Almonte: They could
Margaret Raines: it?
Joyce Odom: off
Jean Paille: They could
Connie Almonte: buy
Jean Paille: come
Joyce Odom: this.
Jean Paille: back.
Connie Almonte: cases, maybe,
Jean Paille: And buy the extra case.
Margaret Raines: Okay.
Connie Almonte: if they wanted. I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell
Jean Paille: So we could do like
Connie Almonte: options.
Jean Paille: a b a hard base plastic, and
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: then we could give
Margaret Raines: The
Jean Paille: two
Margaret Raines: what the
Jean Paille: latex
Margaret Raines: top face,
Jean Paille: covers
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Margaret Raines: right?
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Jean Paille: to start.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Joyce Odom: Yeah, because the soft latex definitely is squishy. That's in. Well I mean squishier than like,
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: yeah,
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: just a hard plastic.
Connie Almonte: Okay, and what kind of chip would we need for this guy?
Jean Paille: How complicated Are we gonna go with the
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: voice activated
Connie Almonte: I don't think we should do voice, I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost, you know.
Margaret Raines: A
Connie Almonte: could we
Margaret Raines: tracker, yeah.
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: 'Cause that uh what it type of, yeah, like a certain term what we would say like,
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Joyce Odom: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time.
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: So uh
Jean Paille: Well, we could give it a specific code, you know, remote missing.
Joyce Odom: Ooh. Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it, because I know that's it's definitely gonna be big, because it's, I don't know, it's
Margaret Raines: Well,
Joyce Odom: just so high-tech.
Margaret Raines: my little sister got for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring, and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work.
Jean Paille: Yeah, see that
Margaret Raines: And
Jean Paille: would
Margaret Raines: then
Jean Paille: just
Margaret Raines: she
Jean Paille: irritate
Margaret Raines: would laugh
Jean Paille: Joyce Odom.
Margaret Raines: and it would start going off in her purse, and you couldn't turn it off.
Connie Almonte: Oh dear.
Joyce Odom: Oh,
Margaret Raines: So
Joyce Odom: then
Margaret Raines: it became
Joyce Odom: maybe voice
Margaret Raines: highly irritating.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Joyce Odom: maybe voice
Jean Paille: So
Joyce Odom: activation
Jean Paille: I think
Joyce Odom: won't
Jean Paille: having
Joyce Odom: be good.
Jean Paille: a key-phrase is much better.
Connie Almonte: Okay. Alright. But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say, channel up, and it would work, right?
Joyce Odom: Yeah, n n no, we
Margaret Raines: But
Joyce Odom: just
Margaret Raines: then
Connie Almonte: Just
Jean Paille: No.
Margaret Raines: it
Joyce Odom: want it to
Connie Almonte: a
Joyce Odom: be a finder.
Connie Almonte: Okay, alright.
Margaret Raines: Hmm. Okay.
Joyce Odom: But do can your can the department make
Jean Paille: That would be like a mid-class um
Joyce Odom: Oh,
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: brilliant then.
Jean Paille: So we don't actually have to go for Well, if they've just developed the sample sensor, sample speaker, it's a brand new chip. Why not introduce
Connie Almonte: No.
Jean Paille: it in this way?
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Connie Almonte: Mm 'kay.
Joyce Odom: good point.
Connie Almonte: Uh and what size batteries, double A_, triple A_?
Joyce Odom: I think triple A_, it'll be lighter.
Connie Almonte: Two? Could
Joyce Odom: I
Connie Almonte: it
Joyce Odom: mean
Connie Almonte: run
Joyce Odom: more
Connie Almonte: off of two
Joyce Odom: more
Margaret Raines: Well,
Joyce Odom: come
Margaret Raines: that
Joyce Odom: in
Margaret Raines: depends
Joyce Odom: a package.
Margaret Raines: on what the energy is needed.
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Jean Paille: I think, well, we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium, 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products, right? So they're more widely available now. And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries.
Connie Almonte: They're more expensive though, too.
Jean Paille: But if you only have to replace it every five years.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: That's a good
Connie Almonte: Thoughts
Joyce Odom: point.
Margaret Raines: As
Connie Almonte: anybody?
Margaret Raines: long as we sell it with it.
Jean Paille: Well, how about a initial, you get one battery when you buy it, 'cause
Margaret Raines: Right,
Jean Paille: I'm pretty
Margaret Raines: that's
Jean Paille: sure
Margaret Raines: what
Jean Paille: we can
Margaret Raines: I meant.
Jean Paille: get them
Joyce Odom: We
Jean Paille: pretty
Joyce Odom: could think
Jean Paille: cheap
Joyce Odom: about
Jean Paille: on bulk.
Joyce Odom: it and
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Joyce Odom: come back to it next meeting.
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: We still have one more meeting.
Connie Almonte: Alright.
Connie Almonte: Okay. So we've covered that first category, User Interface Concept, meaning design.
Margaret Raines: What's it gonna Yeah, what's it gonna look like.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Margaret Raines: Um.
Connie Almonte: I ki I kind of like your idea about the retro phone dial, and that the central button could have, maybe our logo on it? It might be the four way scroll, too.
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Connie Almonte: I mean
Joyce Odom: it could
Connie Almonte: if
Joyce Odom: be whatever,
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: as long as there's something big in the middle, because like the old phones,
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: there's like that just like piece of metal
Connie Almonte: Mm-hmm.
Joyce Odom: or like
Margaret Raines: Well,
Joyce Odom: a picture or something in the
Margaret Raines: my
Joyce Odom: middle.
Margaret Raines: issue with that is if it got too big though, 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle, then is it gonna get wider
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: than
Joyce Odom: Oh, that's
Margaret Raines: your
Joyce Odom: true.
Margaret Raines: your hands are, because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it?
Joyce Odom: Good point.
Jean Paille: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side,
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side,
Connie Almonte: Oh, I see what
Jean Paille: that
Connie Almonte: you mean.
Jean Paille: could be particularly useful.
Connie Almonte: I think so.
Joyce Odom: So scroll buttons on the side and
Connie Almonte: Yeah,
Joyce Odom: then buttons
Connie Almonte: I like
Joyce Odom: on
Connie Almonte: that.
Joyce Odom: top?
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Joyce Odom: But we definitely If we have scroll things on the side, we definitely have to have 'em labelled.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: Yeah, like
Jean Paille: Well,
Joyce Odom: on
Jean Paille: if it's
Joyce Odom: the side
Jean Paille: just up
Joyce Odom: of
Jean Paille: and
Joyce Odom: it.
Jean Paille: down
Joyce Odom: Oh if it's just up and down.
Margaret Raines: But is that for
Jean Paille: Volume or channel.
Margaret Raines: Which?
Jean Paille: I don't know.
Joyce Odom: Well, you could do
Margaret Raines: Do we
Joyce Odom: some
Margaret Raines: have both
Joyce Odom: on both
Margaret Raines: sides?
Joyce Odom: sides.
Connie Almonte: Can
Jean Paille: Mm
Connie Almonte: we?
Jean Paille: yeah. We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then,
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: So that you're
Jean Paille: 'cause
Connie Almonte: just
Jean Paille: oth
Connie Almonte: not holding
Jean Paille: otherwise
Joyce Odom: That's
Connie Almonte: it and
Joyce Odom: squishy.
Jean Paille: you're
Connie Almonte: it
Jean Paille: not
Connie Almonte: changes
Jean Paille: just
Connie Almonte: the chan
Jean Paille: holding
Joyce Odom: That's
Jean Paille: it
Joyce Odom: squishy.
Jean Paille: and going like this,
Margaret Raines: Well,
Jean Paille: you
Margaret Raines: the
Jean Paille: know.
Margaret Raines: other option is in instead of a scroll you just have
Joyce Odom: have
Margaret Raines: the buttons
Joyce Odom: buttons.
Margaret Raines: up on the side which
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: are on the side.
Jean Paille: Okay.
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: Yeah, that.
Connie Almonte: Hmm.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay any other ideas?
Margaret Raines: Um what colour?
Connie Almonte: Oh, yeah. Latex covers.
Jean Paille: We
Connie Almonte: W
Jean Paille: have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on, so we'll have to like have a little square or something, so that the
Margaret Raines: Well
Jean Paille: our logo's
Margaret Raines: I sort
Jean Paille: available.
Margaret Raines: of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that.
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Margaret Raines: And that's at the bottom of it.
Connie Almonte: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though, because if people are able
Margaret Raines: Which
Connie Almonte: to
Margaret Raines: button?
Connie Almonte: change the covers, maybe the on-off button, something, some the menu button, I don't know, but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one. Are they all gonna have our company logo on them? Every cover?
Jean Paille: Yeah, I don't think we should do that, because that would just be icky.
Connie Almonte: Yeah.
Jean Paille: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea.
Connie Almonte: If we want it to be visible and Um are all those those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking?
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: But those are plastic, right?
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: They're not titanium. I kind of like that look. Uh but, or if
Jean Paille: For
Connie Almonte: it was
Jean Paille: our base
Connie Almonte: really
Jean Paille: one?
Connie Almonte: Yeah, for the base or if we're going for the retro look, I think, like a really shiny black would be cool.
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Connie Almonte: What
Joyce Odom: or like
Connie Almonte: are your
Joyce Odom: a
Connie Almonte: thoughts?
Joyce Odom: gun-metal grey,
Connie Almonte: Gun-metal
Joyce Odom: 'cause then
Connie Almonte: gray.
Joyce Odom: it combines the silver and the black.
Connie Almonte: There you go, gun-metal gray.
Margaret Raines: I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button.
Connie Almonte: Why?
Jean Paille: It'll wear off.
Margaret Raines: What's the
Joyce Odom: Yeah,
Margaret Raines: button
Joyce Odom: buttons wear
Margaret Raines: Well,
Joyce Odom: off.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: w w then what's the button do, and how do you know that that is what the button does? I guess. Just looking at examples, y you just don't ever see the logo on a button, it's always on the actual casing.
Connie Almonte: Right.
Joyce Odom: Hmm.
Jean Paille: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front
Joyce Odom: But
Connie Almonte: On
Jean Paille: of
Margaret Raines: But
Joyce Odom: we
Jean Paille: the
Connie Almonte: the
Joyce Odom: want
Margaret Raines: you
Jean Paille: actual
Margaret Raines: don't
Connie Almonte: back?
Joyce Odom: it to be seen.
Connie Almonte: It d visible
Margaret Raines: But uh,
Joyce Odom: We
Margaret Raines: yeah,
Joyce Odom: need it
Margaret Raines: you
Connie Almonte: Visibility
Joyce Odom: to
Margaret Raines: don't
Joyce Odom: be seen.
Margaret Raines: see it.
Connie Almonte: though 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is
Margaret Raines: Well,
Connie Almonte: when you drop it or
Margaret Raines: hang
Connie Almonte: when
Margaret Raines: on.
Connie Almonte: you're changing the battery.
Margaret Raines: The other option is, I don't know if you can see it but it's like if
Connie Almonte: I can find it again.
Margaret Raines: Yeah, it's like the second to last slide.
Connie Almonte: Okay. And yours was called Interface
Margaret Raines: Interface,
Connie Almonte: Concept?
Margaret Raines: yeah.
Connie Almonte: This one?
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: Well,
Margaret Raines: Um.
Connie Almonte: for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly.
Margaret Raines: Okay, it's the very right one. You see at the bottom, it's kind of difficult to see, but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like, where the logo is, and if we have the replaceable section, it's like the top. It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Margaret Raines: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in.
Connie Almonte: Okay,
Margaret Raines: If
Connie Almonte: yes
Margaret Raines: c you envisioning it? And so
Connie Almonte: yes.
Margaret Raines: that stays the same when you have the logo, and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes.
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Jean Paille: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so it actually would go over top of everything and have
Margaret Raines: Hmm.
Jean Paille: holes for the buttons, so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Jean Paille: the logo should
Margaret Raines: Yeah, yeah.
Jean Paille: be.
Connie Almonte: Like a little cut-out kind
Jean Paille: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: of
Margaret Raines: Right. That's
Connie Almonte: Okay.
Margaret Raines: like, you know, a a cellphone it's like the the screen
Joyce Odom: Right.
Margaret Raines: is always just left opened. And so, what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_?
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Joyce Odom: Some
Connie Almonte: Anybody
Joyce Odom: of tho
Connie Almonte: see anything that they liked in
Joyce Odom: Well,
Connie Almonte: these
Joyce Odom: some
Connie Almonte: ones?
Joyce Odom: of those buttons though are blue-based. Um
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: well, a lot of those buttons are blue-based. Well, kind
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: of. Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact,
Margaret Raines: Yellow.
Joyce Odom: they could illuminate yellow.
Connie Almonte: Yellow,
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: I like that idea.
Joyce Odom: Like if we like the one all the way on the left, uh you ca you can see it on your computer better.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: Um where the button is actually blue, but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow.
Connie Almonte: Mm.
Joyce Odom: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch
Margaret Raines: Oh,
Joyce Odom: buttons.
Margaret Raines: that one.
Connie Almonte: I like
Joyce Odom: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: the yellow illumination idea, very good. Okay. Any other ideas or thoughts? We
Margaret Raines: Um.
Connie Almonte: all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna
Margaret Raines: Ha hang on
Connie Almonte: do with this project so
Margaret Raines: Let
Joyce Odom: Mm
Margaret Raines: Joyce Odom
Joyce Odom: yeah.
Margaret Raines: catch up.
Connie Almonte: 'Kay.
Margaret Raines: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we just everything that we said before?
Connie Almonte: I think there will be time for that later. I'm guessing. 'Kay, well we're gonna wrap this up. Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes, and here's what we're each of us going to do. The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design, the U_I_D_ the user interface design. I think you're going to get a lot of, I mean, the final say on what buttons get put We'll all talk about it, but I think, that's pretty much what you're gonna do, right?
Margaret Raines: Yeah.
Connie Almonte: I guess. 'Kay. And you're gonna do some product evaluation. Okay, and right now, the I_D_ and U_I_D_, you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay.
Jean Paille: Great.
Margaret Raines: Fun.
Jean Paille: Play Doh.
Connie Almonte: Yeah. Okay, and you should all be getting an email pretty soon. Alright. Well,
Jean Paille: Wonderful
Connie Almonte: thank you for a very productive meeting.
Jean Paille: Ooh. | Joyce Odom presented more information on user requirements which showed that users wanted the look of a high-tech device that was still simple to use. She presented the fruit and vegetable fashion trend that the group will integrate into their design. Margaret Raines presented several ideas for the interface design taken from existing product designs. Jean Paille discussed the necessary internal components and presented options for energy sources and materials. Margaret Raines also presented the sample speaker technology recently developed by the company. The group had a discussion to finalize the prototype features. It was decided that the device will be small with a locator function instead of having a charging stand. Voice recognition will not be included outside of the locator function. It will be covered by interchangeable latex casings. To incorporate the company logo and color, the buttons will be illuminated yellow when pressed and the logo will be displayed through the latex casings. Connie Almonte instructed Margaret Raines and Jean Paille to build the prototype, with Margaret Raines deciding which buttons will be included. Joyce Odom will prepare a prototype evaluation. | 0 | amisum | test |
Jill Bradley: I wanna find our if our remote works.
Ada Grimes: Jill Bradley too.
Jill Bradley: Oh.
Ada Grimes: Okay.
Jill Bradley: Whoohoo.
Ada Grimes: Um here's the agenda for our last meeting. Um after the opening we're going to have a prototype presentation, then we're going to discuss the evaluation criteria and the financing of our remote. Then we're going to evaluate the product and I think the whole production process, and then we're gonna close it up, and we have forty minutes, so let's get started. Oh, no, let's have the prototype presentation.
Linda Hall: Mm 'kay, you ready?
Kayla Jimenez: Um sure. You or Jill Bradley?
Linda Hall: Y you read that stuff, since
Kayla Jimenez: Okay
Linda Hall: you wrote it.
Kayla Jimenez: Well. since
Linda Hall: I'll
Kayla Jimenez: our
Linda Hall: be the Vanna.
Kayla Jimenez: materials aren't exactly what we were going for, I'm just gonna translate what this all means for you. The base is gonna be gunmetal gray, which is what we had decided, and it's gonna be plastic. Um then there's the latex cover, which is what you see as red. Um because it can be replaceable, we just kinda went with the colour.
Ada Grimes: Right.
Kayla Jimenez: Um and then the top. Um and the buttons will be a l much lighter blue, almost see-through.
Ada Grimes: Hmm.
Kayla Jimenez: It's just sort of a very pale blue and a
Jill Bradley: That's
Kayla Jimenez: light-up
Jill Bradley: nice.
Kayla Jimenez: yellow.
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: The whole thing lights up if you press any button, rather than it just that one button will light up.
Jill Bradley: Good.
Kayla Jimenez: Um and then at the bottom we have our logo. Um bright yellow sort of design with the R_R_ which will actually look like our logo.
Ada Grimes: Great.
Kayla Jimenez: And then on the side you have the buttons. They're one button, but they kind of push up and down.
Ada Grimes: Okay.
Kayla Jimenez: I don't think they're scrolling.
Linda Hall: No. They're just buttons.
Kayla Jimenez: Right, yeah. And then yeah, the buttons.
Linda Hall: On off switch will be here and as you've noticed on our prototype um they've ended up with a curvature kind of, by concave sort of thing, except for, you know, can't see underneath.
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Linda Hall: So I'm hoping that when we get to production we can actually make them like that, because they're very nice to stock you know, stick your finger in
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Linda Hall: Um.
Kayla Jimenez: Thumb-shaped.
Linda Hall: the two squared buttons are are two probably least used, menu, mute, and then these are the numbers, so our channel and our volume will be on either side.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah. And then the last thing is just that it'll be black labelling on top, just which we didn't do.
Ada Grimes: Okay. And did you determine um the curvature of the bottom part of it for the hand, is it gonna be a single or a double?
Linda Hall: I'd say a single.
Ada Grimes: Single.
Kayla Jimenez: Single.
Ada Grimes: Single sounds good, 'cause it's not
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: big enough to really constitute a double.
Kayla Jimenez: Right.
Linda Hall: Yeah, it's only actually the size of my hand.
Ada Grimes: Great. Great. I think you did an awesome job.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, I think it's a beautiful
Ada Grimes: It is beautiful, and it's everything that we discussed.
Jill Bradley: Yeah. Good job, you guys.
Ada Grimes: Good job.
Kayla Jimenez: Oh thank
Linda Hall: Whoohoo.
Kayla Jimenez: you.
Jill Bradley: Those are really good.
Ada Grimes: Alright what's next in our agenda? Um we're gonna discuss the evaluation criteria, and that's with Courtney.
Jill Bradley: Okay, it's a PowerPoint presentation. I don't really know exactly what we should uh talk about. It's under evaluation.
Ada Grimes: Right.
Jill Bradley: Alright. Um so these are the criteria we're gonna ask, is it easy to use, is it fashionable uh I guess we should down so we can
Ada Grimes: Mm.
Jill Bradley: reference them.
Kayla Jimenez: Feel good meaning what?
Jill Bradley: Like does it feel good,
Kayla Jimenez: Physically,
Jill Bradley: like yeah, physically.
Ada Grimes: Right.
Kayla Jimenez: okay.
Ada Grimes: Sqi
Jill Bradley: That's just for current trend.
Ada Grimes: Right.
Jill Bradley: It doesn't really count, you guys.
Linda Hall: Yeah, it was a little difficult to incorporate the cover with the cherry fruit on it.
Jill Bradley: Yeah. But it's so we do have removable covers, right?
Ada Grimes: Right.
Linda Hall: Yes.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, well then that's covered. And so
Ada Grimes: 'Kay.
Jill Bradley: we n k everybody have that?
Ada Grimes: I'll wait.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, she's got it. It's
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: good. Yeah. Okay so, we're using the criteria uh for a seven point scale, and so we need to discuss how we feel. It falls within this range, so for easy to use, do we feel it's very easy to use?
Ada Grimes: Are we
Kayla Jimenez: True
Ada Grimes: going
Kayla Jimenez: or false,
Ada Grimes: to indi
Kayla Jimenez: easy
Ada Grimes: I say
Kayla Jimenez: to use.
Ada Grimes: we individually rate what
Jill Bradley: You
Ada Grimes: do you
Jill Bradley: guys
Ada Grimes: say? Just
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: orally. Why not? We have okay.
Jill Bradley: Okay.
Ada Grimes: Um easy to use. I vote six.
Jill Bradley: Oh wait, that's false.
Ada Grimes: Oh, two.
Jill Bradley: Okay.
Linda Hall: I'd say two as well.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah, two.
Jill Bradley: Two.
Ada Grimes: Uh
Jill Bradley: That's what I say.
Ada Grimes: hello, we're great.
Jill Bradley: Okay, fashionable?
Ada Grimes: Um
Linda Hall: At the
Ada Grimes: one.
Linda Hall: moment, no.
Jill Bradley: No.
Ada Grimes: No.
Jill Bradley: I mean like no, I think it's very
Ada Grimes: Jill Bradley
Jill Bradley: fashionable.
Ada Grimes: too, very chic.
Jill Bradley: I thi I would give it a one.
Linda Hall: Okay.
Ada Grimes: One, I give it
Linda Hall: I'll
Ada Grimes: a one.
Linda Hall: give it a two, because at the moment it's not looking that way.
Jill Bradley: Well,
Ada Grimes: Oh,
Jill Bradley: that's
Ada Grimes: and
Jill Bradley: that's
Ada Grimes: ma it's
Jill Bradley: just
Ada Grimes: a
Jill Bradley: like
Ada Grimes: prototype,
Jill Bradley: that's a clay, it's
Ada Grimes: right.
Jill Bradley: a prototype. What do you
Kayla Jimenez: Mm
Jill Bradley: think?
Kayla Jimenez: I don't think it's that fashionable. I'd give it like three or four.
Ada Grimes: Well,
Jill Bradley: Okay.
Ada Grimes: now I'm. So, the average is about a two.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, it's a two.
Kayla Jimenez: But then I'm not
Ada Grimes: Two
Kayla Jimenez: fashionable,
Ada Grimes: or three.
Kayla Jimenez: so don't
Ada Grimes: Two
Kayla Jimenez: use
Ada Grimes: point
Kayla Jimenez: my opinion.
Ada Grimes: five.
Jill Bradley: That's okay. Yeah.
Linda Hall: Neither
Jill Bradley: Um
Linda Hall: are all o all the customers we have, either.
Jill Bradley: does it feel good?
Ada Grimes: Imagine, since we obviously don't
Jill Bradley: I
Kayla Jimenez: Does
Ada Grimes: have
Kayla Jimenez: it
Jill Bradley: feel
Kayla Jimenez: feel
Ada Grimes: that.
Jill Bradley: like
Kayla Jimenez: good?
Linda Hall: Uh the shape of it actually does uh.
Ada Grimes: And it's i it is very ergonomically designed. It's gonna be curved.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah, it's gonna be thicker.
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: Depth.
Jill Bradley: I think it feels good.
Ada Grimes: I think so too.
Jill Bradley: I'll give it a two.
Ada Grimes: 'Kay. Two.
Kayla Jimenez: I'll give it a one.
Jill Bradley: What do you say?
Linda Hall: I'd say a two.
Ada Grimes: Alright,
Jill Bradley: Okay.
Ada Grimes: average is two. Is it technologically innovative? Oh sorry I'm taking over your job
Jill Bradley: Oh
Ada Grimes: here.
Jill Bradley: no, it's fine, you're
Ada Grimes: Go right
Jill Bradley: I mean
Ada Grimes: ahead.
Jill Bradley: you're Project Manager. Um yeah, I mean and it does it have voice I mean the phrase recognition on it?
Ada Grimes: Yes. Right? We were able to do it with that kind of
Kayla Jimenez: Oh right, the
Ada Grimes: chip.
Linda Hall: We could do it with the chip, yes. It wasn't we have no
Jill Bradley: And
Linda Hall: reflection
Jill Bradley: there's no way you can
Linda Hall: of
Jill Bradley: represent
Linda Hall: it on the
Jill Bradley: it on
Linda Hall: prototype,
Jill Bradley: here.
Ada Grimes: Yeah,
Linda Hall: but that's
Ada Grimes: right.
Linda Hall: because
Jill Bradley: Y
Linda Hall: it's
Ada Grimes: That
Linda Hall: only
Ada Grimes: was
Linda Hall: two dimensions,
Ada Grimes: 'kay.
Linda Hall: really.
Ada Grimes: And we discussed that
Jill Bradley: Yeah,
Kayla Jimenez: Right.
Ada Grimes: being
Jill Bradley: so.
Ada Grimes: included.
Jill Bradley: Then yes, then I would well it isn't what else would it need
Linda Hall: It
Jill Bradley: for it to be technologically innovative?
Ada Grimes: Well we don' have the you know, we can't say channel, and it changes the channel,
Jill Bradley: And
Ada Grimes: channel
Jill Bradley: it doesn't
Ada Grimes: eight.
Jill Bradley: cover anything other then T_V_, so
Ada Grimes: Right.
Jill Bradley: I'd probably give it a three.
Linda Hall: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: Okay.
Jill Bradley: Even though it is for just a T_V_ remote it's uh very advanced. But it is just a T_V_ remote.
Ada Grimes: Yeah. I'd go for a three or four on that one, so
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah I go four.
Ada Grimes: okay, let's go for a three point five.
Linda Hall: Three and an half.
Ada Grimes: Alright, and the last criteria is it is it um
Kayla Jimenez: Squishy and fruity.
Ada Grimes: Well,
Jill Bradley: Well
Ada Grimes: we've covered that with
Kayla Jimenez: It's
Ada Grimes: the
Kayla Jimenez: just trendy, basically.
Ada Grimes: trendy.
Jill Bradley: yeah, so I'd give it a two.
Linda Hall: It's
Ada Grimes: Sure.
Linda Hall: capable of being
Ada Grimes: Capable.
Linda Hall: squishy
Jill Bradley: Oh, it's very
Linda Hall: and
Jill Bradley: capable
Ada Grimes: Very
Linda Hall: fruity.
Ada Grimes: capable.
Jill Bradley: of being squishy and fruity.
Kayla Jimenez: Okay.
Ada Grimes: And it's very important.
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: 'Kay, there we go.
Jill Bradley: Okay,
Ada Grimes: So.
Jill Bradley: next.
Ada Grimes: Next.
Jill Bradley: So um our re model slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie appears to be a winner, and uh hopefully we'll sell millions. Good job, team.
Linda Hall: How did you get that in there?
Jill Bradley: What?
Linda Hall: The slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie.
Jill Bradley: It it does.
Ada Grimes: It does.
Linda Hall: That was good.
Jill Bradley: Thanks.
Ada Grimes: Very good. Alright, let's go back to this No, that's it. Hmm. Oops. Okay, so now uh we're moving on to finance, okay. I'm gonna show you an Excel spreadsheet and we're going to fill it in together based on what components we're including in our remote and see if it's under twelve fifty Euro. If so, we can proceed, if not, we need to go back to the drawing board a little bit. 'Kay? So let Jill Bradley bring that up. Here we go. Alright. Um it's not hand dynamo, it's powered by battery,
Linda Hall: Yep.
Ada Grimes: so we give it a
Jill Bradley: Two.
Ada Grimes: Number of components you plan to use. Do I just put quantity being one battery, or
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Linda Hall: Mm 'kay.
Ada Grimes: But if it's a do you wanna go for this is where we need to make a final call on if it's a lithium or do we wanna go triple A_s, 'cause triple A_s we're gonna have t do more than one battery. Oh, let's just go for a lithium. What do you say?
Jill Bradley: Yeah, let's
Linda Hall: Yeah,
Jill Bradley: let's do a lithium.
Ada Grimes: I think
Linda Hall: it's.
Ada Grimes: uh I think
Jill Bradley: We're gon
Ada Grimes: the people
Jill Bradley: that's gon
Ada Grimes: who purchase this are gonna be technologically
Jill Bradley: Nologically advanced,
Ada Grimes: right.
Jill Bradley: yeah.
Ada Grimes: Okay, down to the electronics um section. We're gonna need this kind, correct,
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: if we do
Linda Hall: Yep.
Ada Grimes: the voice sensor, so one of those. It is a single-curved, so one of those.
Jill Bradley: Uh.
Ada Grimes: Oh. What's that? Yeah, that's
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: correct. 'Kay, down here,
Kayla Jimenez: It's
Ada Grimes: case
Jill Bradley: We
Kayla Jimenez: plastic.
Ada Grimes: material.
Jill Bradley: plastic.
Ada Grimes: Plastic.
Jill Bradley: And
Kayla Jimenez: And
Jill Bradley: special
Kayla Jimenez: special
Jill Bradley: colour.
Kayla Jimenez: colour.
Ada Grimes: 'Kay. Down here, interface type. We're gonna have the integrated scroll scroll
Kayla Jimenez: No, we
Ada Grimes: wheel.
Kayla Jimenez: don't have the scroll.
Ada Grimes: Isn't oh those are just regular
Jill Bradley: But
Ada Grimes: buttons.
Jill Bradley: it's
Linda Hall: Well,
Kayla Jimenez: Buttons.
Linda Hall: that's the push-button too, right there.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, but i
Ada Grimes: This?
Jill Bradley: so
Linda Hall: Integrated
Jill Bradley: i
Linda Hall: scroll-wheel or push-button. We're really having just push-button interface.
Ada Grimes: Okay, so we can just go um.
Jill Bradley: But will we w actually we'll need two, won't we? One for the top and then one for the s one e for each side.
Linda Hall: But it that just covers the type of button we're having. Because we're not doing a scroll on the side, it's still push-button.
Kayla Jimenez: Oh like the twenty nine means like you have both scrolls and
Linda Hall: Push-button.
Kayla Jimenez: push-buttons.
Jill Bradley: Okay.
Ada Grimes: Right
Linda Hall: But we just
Ada Grimes: I
Kayla Jimenez: But
Ada Grimes: think
Kayla Jimenez: we
Linda Hall: have
Kayla Jimenez: don't
Ada Grimes: she's
Kayla Jimenez: have
Linda Hall: push
Kayla Jimenez: any scrolls.
Ada Grimes: I think what Courtney's talking about is do we need to put two
Jill Bradley: Like
Ada Grimes: here?
Jill Bradley: because there's like one interface right here and then because it's not gonna be on the same plane when you press the button. There's
Ada Grimes: Right.
Jill Bradley: gonna have to be
Linda Hall: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: additional signals on the sides. So
Linda Hall: Okay.
Jill Bradley: is that gonna be an extra one on each side?
Ada Grimes: I don't know, they might put us well, let's
Kayla Jimenez: Two interfaces,
Ada Grimes: just.
Kayla Jimenez: is that what w should we
Linda Hall: Let's
Ada Grimes: Two
Kayla Jimenez: s
Linda Hall: call
Kayla Jimenez: say?
Ada Grimes: or
Linda Hall: it th
Ada Grimes: would
Jill Bradley: Or
Ada Grimes: it
Jill Bradley: three,
Ada Grimes: be three?
Jill Bradley: because of one on each side and
Kayla Jimenez: Okay,
Jill Bradley: one on
Kayla Jimenez: fine.
Jill Bradley: top.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: I mean it's fine 'cause it comes out the same as twenty nine. Well less than twenty nine even.
Linda Hall: Okay.
Ada Grimes: Okay and we're gonna button supplements the buttons are no
Jill Bradley: They're
Ada Grimes: uh
Jill Bradley: a special colour.
Ada Grimes: okay.
Jill Bradley: Um they're uh they're a special form, 'cause
Ada Grimes: Are
Jill Bradley: they're
Ada Grimes: they?
Jill Bradley: indented.
Ada Grimes: Oh, right.
Kayla Jimenez: And
Jill Bradley: And,
Kayla Jimenez: then
Jill Bradley: they're
Kayla Jimenez: s
Jill Bradley: a special material.
Kayla Jimenez: yeah.
Ada Grimes: Mm. Well, we're under cost then. Alright.
Kayla Jimenez: We're over?
Ada Grimes: No,
Linda Hall: Grand.
Jill Bradley: We're
Ada Grimes: we're
Jill Bradley: under.
Ada Grimes: under. Twelve
Kayla Jimenez: Okay.
Ada Grimes: point five is our limit.
Kayla Jimenez: Oh,
Ada Grimes: We've
Kayla Jimenez: I see.
Ada Grimes: got eleven point two.
Linda Hall: So
Ada Grimes: Alright.
Linda Hall: we can go to production.
Ada Grimes: We can go to
Ada Grimes: I dunno what I just did. Okay. Now we're gonna talk about the project process um and whether or not we're satisfied with the whole process and the result. Um did we have a lot of room for creativity? Did we have a lot of room for individual leadership, um teamwork, and the means, meaning the technology that we used to produce our little guy there, we found any new ideas. Now, question is, how do we do this?
Linda Hall: Go back.
Jill Bradley: I think we just discuss it.
Ada Grimes: Discuss,
Linda Hall: Previous.
Ada Grimes: sure. Alright. Who want who would like to go first?
Linda Hall: We think
Kayla Jimenez: We didn't
Linda Hall: we got
Kayla Jimenez: have
Linda Hall: stifled
Kayla Jimenez: a whiteboard.
Linda Hall: for cri creativity by the company itself, in restricting us only to using a T_V_ remote,
Ada Grimes: Hmm.
Linda Hall: initially.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: Oh
Ada Grimes: Hmm.
Jill Bradley: that's true.
Kayla Jimenez: And no internet.
Jill Bradley: Yeah. No, yeah, that's a good point. 'Cause I'd forgotten that that wasn't our decision, yeah.
Ada Grimes: And how did you feel about the whole the whole process though?
Jill Bradley: Oh, overall I mean I thought we did a good job like We got to choose basically we had control over minus it being just merely a T_V_ remote we got to choose what we wanted to do with it.
Ada Grimes: Right, and we got say over what how technologically advanced it should be and also how fashionable, which I kind of
Jill Bradley: And we're a fashion forward
Ada Grimes: like
Jill Bradley: technology
Ada Grimes: we
Jill Bradley: company.
Ada Grimes: yep. You
Linda Hall: right.
Ada Grimes: know it. Um what about um the teamwork aspect? How did you guys enjoy making the model, the prototype?
Kayla Jimenez: I think we did well.
Linda Hall: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: I think ya' did. Did you work well together in there, and
Kayla Jimenez: Yep.
Linda Hall: Well,
Ada Grimes: 'kay.
Linda Hall: no, there
Jill Bradley: Minus
Linda Hall: was
Jill Bradley: that one
Linda Hall: there
Jill Bradley: fight.
Linda Hall: was scratching and fighting,
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Linda Hall: but
Ada Grimes: Oh my
Linda Hall: no.
Ada Grimes: God,
Kayla Jimenez: Gouges.
Ada Grimes: and we've all been a pretty congenial team here, I think.
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: We hadn't
Jill Bradley: I
Ada Grimes: had any ma
Jill Bradley: mean
Ada Grimes: fallings
Jill Bradley: minus you
Ada Grimes: out.
Jill Bradley: guys being wha what is it, the survey, annoying or
Linda Hall: Irritating.
Jill Bradley: what is it?
Ada Grimes: Irritating.
Jill Bradley: Irritating,
Kayla Jimenez: Irritating.
Jill Bradley: yeah. Wow that's a it's definitely a strong one.
Ada Grimes: Okay.
Linda Hall: The means, the whiteboard didn't work.
Kayla Jimenez: And
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: no internet.
Ada Grimes: I have to knock that one down a couple
Jill Bradley: Yeah,
Ada Grimes: notches.
Jill Bradley: and no internet.
Linda Hall: A and our friend here really feels
Kayla Jimenez: Misses.
Linda Hall: strongly about the internet.
Kayla Jimenez: I do.
Jill Bradley: And the digital
Kayla Jimenez: There's so much available.
Jill Bradley: the
Kayla Jimenez: Like
Jill Bradley: digital
Kayla Jimenez: it's information
Jill Bradley: pens
Ada Grimes: Yeah, digital pens.
Jill Bradley: were they
Linda Hall: I
Jill Bradley: were pretty
Linda Hall: really
Jill Bradley: cool.
Linda Hall: appreciated
Ada Grimes: They were fine.
Linda Hall: those, yeah.
Jill Bradley: Yeah they were fun, even though I'm not really sure what I could do with them, but they are awesome.
Linda Hall: The use of the laptops for receiving everything. It
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: Right,
Linda Hall: was
Ada Grimes: laptops are
Linda Hall: wireless
Ada Grimes: extremely handy,
Linda Hall: too, so.
Ada Grimes: wireless.
Jill Bradley: And these things
Ada Grimes: And
Jill Bradley: whoa.
Ada Grimes: that we have a shared network where we can put all of the
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Linda Hall: And let's not forget the sexy dual microphones everyone gets
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Linda Hall: to wear.
Jill Bradley: And Big Brother.
Ada Grimes: Big brother.
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: 'Kay, have we found any new ideas through this process?
Jill Bradley: Um we are really gonna sell this. Ta-da.
Ada Grimes: For something that looks cool and also has what I want it to b do technologically.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: And that's your right brain taking over, w wanting the artistic, the fashionable, the hip,
Jill Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Ada Grimes: you know. If we all just went out and bought useful things, I don't think I mean that's not
Kayla Jimenez: Well,
Ada Grimes: what
Kayla Jimenez: that's
Ada Grimes: technology.
Kayla Jimenez: why I don't like uh Macs or Apples, just 'cause I look at it, and I know it's probably a very good computer, but I look at it, and I'm taken back to elementary school, 'cause they look the same.
Ada Grimes: Mm.
Kayla Jimenez: They
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: look like they did when I was in elementary school,
Jill Bradley: Yeah,
Kayla Jimenez: and
Jill Bradley: 'cause
Kayla Jimenez: that's
Jill Bradley: they're
Kayla Jimenez: so old-fashioned
Jill Bradley: pretty and
Kayla Jimenez: to
Jill Bradley: just
Kayla Jimenez: Jill Bradley.
Jill Bradley: like
Linda Hall: The Toronto
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Linda Hall: district school would only use his Macs with their kids.
Kayla Jimenez: Exactly, so I associate them with like really low-tech,
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: really cheap,
Ada Grimes: Just the Mac
Kayla Jimenez: bad
Ada Grimes: font bothers
Jill Bradley: Uh yeah.
Ada Grimes: Jill Bradley
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: even. But I do like iPods, go figure.
Jill Bradley: Yeah, no, iPods They want all those words for
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: presentation,
Linda Hall: Well,
Jill Bradley: even
Linda Hall: i
Jill Bradley: the
Linda Hall: iPods
Jill Bradley: plugs.
Linda Hall: are now quite trendy, and
Ada Grimes: Mm-hmm.
Linda Hall: they come in different colours.
Ada Grimes: Colours. Exactly.
Linda Hall: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: I mean how many people went out and bough a Nokia phone, back when we were like in high school, just so they could get the changeable face
Jill Bradley: Oh
Ada Grimes: plates.
Jill Bradley: yeah, everybody.
Ada Grimes: Okay. Anyway,
Linda Hall: Not Jill Bradley.
Ada Grimes: so
Jill Bradley: Mine
Ada Grimes: that
Jill Bradley: is
Kayla Jimenez: But the
Ada Grimes: is
Linda Hall: I
Kayla Jimenez: my
Linda Hall: didn't
Ada Grimes: definitely
Jill Bradley: amber.
Linda Hall: have a phone
Ada Grimes: at work.
Linda Hall: 'til university.
Kayla Jimenez: but my
Jill Bradley: Oh.
Kayla Jimenez: one issue is just like the whole it's for T_V_ only. I was like who's gonna buy a remote just for the T_V_ unless they've lost theirs.
Jill Bradley: Look at
Ada Grimes: Yeah.
Jill Bradley: it. That is a piece
Ada Grimes: Fashionable
Kayla Jimenez: You're kidding.
Jill Bradley: of
Ada Grimes: chic
Jill Bradley: work.
Ada Grimes: people
Jill Bradley: Wow.
Ada Grimes: will.
Kayla Jimenez: No,
Jill Bradley: Marketing Director says yeah. Fashionable
Kayla Jimenez: no.
Jill Bradley: people
Kayla Jimenez: No, marketing
Jill Bradley: will buy
Kayla Jimenez: has
Jill Bradley: it.
Kayla Jimenez: to actually create the desire for it.
Jill Bradley: Oh, I will create
Linda Hall: That's okay.
Jill Bradley: desire.
Linda Hall: We can create a commercial where they think that all their needs will be met. This
Kayla Jimenez: Ri
Linda Hall: will help them find
Ada Grimes: Hmm.
Linda Hall: the one.
Kayla Jimenez: They'll be sexy with it.
Linda Hall: That's right.
Jill Bradley: that's the fig-leaf.
Kayla Jimenez: Oh right.
Jill Bradley: Mm. That'll sell.
Ada Grimes: There you
Kayla Jimenez: Let
Ada Grimes: go,
Kayla Jimenez: you
Linda Hall: And
Ada Grimes: marketing.
Kayla Jimenez: loose.
Linda Hall: so the serpent says, use our remote.
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Ada Grimes: Alright.
Kayla Jimenez: Yeah,
Jill Bradley: Yeah.
Kayla Jimenez: no.
Ada Grimes: Okay, we're gonna wrap this up now. Um the costs are within the budget, we evaluated the project, and now we're gonna complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary, and then we're going to have a big giant party, apparently, according to this, so.
Linda Hall: Whoohoo.
Ada Grimes: Alright, thank you team,
Linda Hall: Margaritas
Ada Grimes: you did a great
Linda Hall: for everyone.
Ada Grimes: job, it was lovely working with you.
Kayla Jimenez: Good.
Jill Bradley: You too.
Linda Hall: Yay. Thanks to the Project Leader. Now we know w | Kayla Jimenez and Linda Hall presented the prototype and displayed its gunmetal color, removable casing, buttons, logo, and ergonomic design. Jill Bradley gave an evaluation of the prototype using the group's initial criteria for the remote. The group decided that enough of their initial ideas and criteria for the remote were satisfied to be able to continue with the project. Ada Grimes analyzed the final production cost; the cost was lower than initially projected, at 11.2 Euros. The group decided to use one lithium battery instead of several triple A alkaline batteries. Ada Grimes then led a discussion on the project process. The group felt that they worked well together and were pleased with the prototype. They complained, though, that they felt constrained by the management's directives, that they had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment, and that they did not have internet access during the project. All participants were instructed to fill out a final questionnaire. | 0 | amisum | test |
Heather Cain: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um development meetings for our our new television remote control. Uh this follows our very successful entry into the the consumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on, taking advantage of the uh the the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh uh feelings in in consumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that's possible for everybody, uh one that everybody wants, uh at a good price for the consumer and at a good price for the company. Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that. Um and uh b in no particular order because ev everybody is uh just
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Heather Cain: as vital to this project um I'll just go round th the table, Andrew, marketing, um m Kendra with the uh um designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrial design. Um. What's uh the the th th project is is here to do, is is to to get this this project up and moving, ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want, uh everybody has a contribution to make and uh everybody feel free to interrupt Rhonda Pearson at any time to to say what you want to say. Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um everybody knows everybody else, everybody's worked for the the company for a while, if if an anybody feels that they need to say more about themselves please do, if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their their background so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh uh everybody's experience is please do so. Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves, in fact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you you're looking to make. So we'll start with Andrew.
Rhonda Pearson: Oh my name's Andrew I'm a I'm Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and uh project for this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what people want to want to uh get from this new design, what people want to like and from a fashion point of view and the practicality point of view.
Heather Cain: Right Kendra.
Michelle Murphy: I'm Kendra and I'm Us User Interface and um I haven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be working on the design.
Heather Cain: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so.
Michelle Murphy: Right. Yep, I'm just open to being creative.
Heather Cain: Yep, good.
Robin Hines: Uh I'm Katie, I'm Robin Hines I'll just be I guess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh yeah.
Heather Cain: Okay, very very quickly, um this I don't want to make this meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank. Everybody says what they what they want to say, uh and we don't want to be constrained by uh kind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is what we want to do. The the remote control needs to be original, there has to be something about it that uh other remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different, uh I want one, um and that goes along with being trendy, uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario. User-friendly as as we all know, remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to make ours one that people can pick up and think oh yes that's it's obvious how that works, uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeah that's something that I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'm gonna have one. And last but not least, or indeed first of all, it it must make the company money, and we make the company money by producing what the consumer wants. The uh the further work to be done is i the um the functional design, uh what it uh what it must actually do, the uh conceptual design, uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get that into production. Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is the white board and uh uh let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the prompt slide here, um In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the the wires, that we don't do that, um So I I everybody knows what whiteboard is so we'll um uh we'll do a virtual drawing on the on on the whiteboard of of your your own uh uh favourite animal, but le let's go round the table, your favourite animal.
Rhonda Pearson: Um, badger.
Heather Cain: Mm and why?
Rhonda Pearson: Uh it's it's got nice contrast with
Heather Cain: Uh-huh.
Rhonda Pearson: black and white and uh and
Heather Cain: Oh
Rhonda Pearson: they're,
Heather Cain: right uh my
Rhonda Pearson: the
Heather Cain: my wife says my beard looks like a badger's arse 'cause of the the white streaks in it. Kendra.
Michelle Murphy: Um probably a duck I just I li I like the way they look and they're just nice animals and I like how they can fly or swim or walk around
Heather Cain: Uh-huh.
Michelle Murphy: or whatever.
Heather Cain: Right, okay.
Robin Hines: Uh 's horses, no particular reason why.
Heather Cain: Uh-huh, fair enough yeah. I'm not sure that I've got any favourite animal to be quite honest, I think homo sapien because of their their uh overall ability to uh uh
Rhonda Pearson: Make mobile phones and T_V_ remotes
Heather Cain: Sorry?
Rhonda Pearson: to make T_V_ remotes.
Heather Cain: Indeed absolutely yes, tha that's um Okay and uh w we need to keep in mind here that the uh we want to sell this for for twenty five Euro um, we want to m make an overall profit for the the company of fifty million Euros so we're we're looking at selling a lot of these um ag across the the entire planet and and we're looking at a gross profit of fifty percent. It needs to cost twelve Euros fifty to make Um. so we're not only looking at a a very trendy original product, we're looking at making it at a very good price. Um, okay, um would anybody like t like to to start by giving their o um sort of quick views of of current remote controls.
Michelle Murphy: Well to use with all the different buttons and uh it's handiest when you have one that works both the D_V_D_ player or whatever and the T_V_ as well. Um, but that it's easy to if you can switch back and forth instead of
Heather Cain: No.
Michelle Murphy: having to press a bunch of different buttons and so I think it's is best when they're clearly labelled and you can see which buttons you're supposed to use, you know.
Heather Cain: Any any thoughts about buttons or any oth other way of approaching the p the uh the problem? Or anybody else, strong feelings about remote controls? Are there you know, bad ones they've used or good ones they've used or ones
Robin Hines: Um
Heather Cain: that they've lost and never found again?
Robin Hines: I think it's important that you should be able to when you when you press the buttons it'll actually pick up the signals from kind of anywhere and you shouldn't have to like contort yourself
Rhonda Pearson: Yeah.
Robin Hines: the signal.
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Rhonda Pearson: Think a lot of the time, remotes that come with T_V_ players and T_V_s and D_V_
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: players, like they aren't like an area that's put a lot of effort into, they're very boring, very plain. Like it's
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: very a very like um making a a stylish remote control would be a very like Easily put us one step ahead of the current competition.
Heather Cain: Um what so wh what's in in what particular style features are you thinking about?
Rhonda Pearson: Um. Something that looks looks doesn't look like remote control. So if you want, something that looks like uh something that makes you think oh what's this? Like this pen doesn't really look like a pen, but it makes
Heather Cain: Uh-huh.
Rhonda Pearson: you think oh. So, sorry that's a bit vague.
Heather Cain: Yeah d no I mean do you think there's a risk if it doesn't look like remote control, people won't see it as a remote control um and uh
Rhonda Pearson: Uh I suppose suppose that's up to the marketing to to make make people aware of the product.
Heather Cain: Uh-huh. Any other thoughts about um th the physical appearance of a of remote controls?
Michelle Murphy: I think something that's comfortable to hold because sometimes you get the remote controls that are just those
Robin Hines: Mm.
Michelle Murphy: big, rectangular
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Michelle Murphy: things and uh they're kind of awkward to hold onto, so something that's more comfortable that fits in a person's hand better.
Heather Cain: I mean th the thing that i immediately comes to mind is computer mouses which
Robin Hines: Mm.
Heather Cain: um
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Rhonda Pearson: Yeah.
Heather Cain: I mean y you get all sorts of shapes
Robin Hines: Mm.
Heather Cain: in the shops and s you know some quite fancy ones
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Heather Cain: um than the some from personal experience which look nice but aren't particularly comfortable.
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Heather Cain: Um any thoughts about buttons or flat screens or uh uh
Rhonda Pearson: Well from the mouse idea you could, remote is a piece of plastic with the big rubber buttons sticking out of it which you press, whereas if you want could all be flat and the buttons are very kind of almost subtle that instead of being raised out of the device uh you push into device you see, like a mouse button.
Heather Cain: Yes, I mean the only thing is if if you're watching television in a in a a darkened room
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: I suppose.
Heather Cain: um you need to be able to uh fi
Rhonda Pearson: Easily, yeah
Heather Cain: find
Rhonda Pearson: yeah.
Heather Cain: the button buttons easily.
Michelle Murphy: But maybe they could be concave instead of sticking up to have them be kind of down so you could feel them
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Robin Hines: Mm.
Michelle Murphy: better.
Heather Cain: Yeah, that's uh must admit I don't think I've ever seen one with concave buttons, that's uh certainly be different. Um do we need it to uh I can't think of any re remote controls that I know of that actually light up at all. Do we
Michelle Murphy: Oh yeah.
Robin Hines: Mm that
Heather Cain: do
Robin Hines: would
Heather Cain: we
Robin Hines: be
Heather Cain: want
Robin Hines: good.
Heather Cain: uh
Michelle Murphy: Like a like a mobile phone?
Heather Cain: Yeah.
Robin Hines: Mm.
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Rhonda Pearson: Mm,
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: yeah that would be good.
Heather Cain: Okay. So, Andrew have you had any thoughts yet about how we might market something which there are already millions out there and that we want to uh uh uh t take over the entire um the planet with?
Rhonda Pearson: Mm-hmm, um especially if we try to sell, what two million of them. Oh sorry, four million of 'em, but uh I think if w if we market it as as not as not well this you c you could either market it as the point of view we could have the two we could have parallel marketing s schemes where you've got one where it appeals to people that want to have the new device that looks cool,
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: is fashionable and like you just it's it's like uh it's one that rather than ra I wan I want rather than a kind of a need relationship
Heather Cain: Mm-hmm.
Rhonda Pearson: with the device, but that might considering the act what the device is for and the nature of some people might not like respond to having a device that they just looks nice, therefore they want it so make it practical at the same time. I think it's this is gonna have to appeal to people that want device that can enhance their living room uh
Heather Cain: Mm-hmm.
Rhonda Pearson: but also a device that uh is practically sound.
Heather Cain: Mm-hmm.
Rhonda Pearson: So um, I dunno we'll have to decide which which angle we're gonna go to or both.
Heather Cain: Okay,
Rhonda Pearson: If you.
Heather Cain: yeah, yeah, well I d I think an any uh any facets that we identify w we aim need to aim for for all of.
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Heather Cain: Um okay well first thoughts on um the the industrial design side.
Robin Hines: Oh I think it's it's remote controls are kind of a unique object 'cause it's you depend on them so much, but you don't i i it's you sort of just assume they're always gonna work, you don't think of them as a comp like a computer can break down and you're kinda like oh well fair enough there's all these complex things going on, it's gonna something's gonna get messed up eventually. They they just need to be very very dependable because people sort of take them for granted and then if your remote control breaks it's God forbid you actually get up and manually change the channel
Heather Cain: Indeed.
Robin Hines: it just it needs to be very effective, very always dependable. Uh I don't think we should make it too small I 'cause I think it needs to it can't be too big like you were saying big an and huge and um awkward, but also if you make it too small kinda like you know how mobile phones are getting smaller and smaller um, it's just gonna end up under a couch cushion somewhere
Heather Cain: Yeah.
Robin Hines: and um yeah. But so yes dependable, and have a good medium range size.
Heather Cain: Okay, and um colours, materials? Kendra, anyone?
Michelle Murphy: Well, most I think most of the remote controls now are either just black or grey, so maybe we should go with something different or be able to I was just thinking of um what they're doing with mobile phones now how you can get the different um what are they called? Like the face-plates
Heather Cain: Yeah.
Robin Hines: Mm,
Michelle Murphy: that you change
Robin Hines: mm-hmm.
Michelle Murphy: so we could have maybe I don't know if it would be feasible to do something with that, where you can change the face-plates or have kind of a
Heather Cain: Uh-huh.
Michelle Murphy: variety so people can get different different things. Have it kind of look how they want to, different colours, things like that,
Heather Cain: Right.
Michelle Murphy: probably just plastic because that's always the lightest.
Heather Cain: Yeah. Okay that's uh Again I don't think that's ever been done before, it's uh
Robin Hines: Mm-hmm.
Heather Cain: the sort of the sort of thing that would get people uh thinking yes that's something that I haven't got and uh might need so. Uh Andrew, any thoughts about uh how we might market interchangeable fronts on on the remote control?
Rhonda Pearson: Um, well we could either market it together by getting control in a set colour or with like you buy it with several uh like you ge you get the f uh the face-plates with it when you buy or as a separate thing, but uh maybe thinking of that, it's considering the nature of the device, maybe a second thing like a second campaign to market
Robin Hines: Mm.
Rhonda Pearson: new facials for your to your might go a bit astray since
Heather Cain: Yeah.
Rhonda Pearson: it is the kind of thing where y you generally get one and then forget about it. Unless
Heather Cain: Yeah.
Rhonda Pearson: you were trying to
Robin Hines: Well you could come
Heather Cain: I
Robin Hines: up
Heather Cain: think
Robin Hines: with like novelty ones, like they've done with the the mobile phones, you can get like different you know scenes from different movies and stuff
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Robin Hines: on
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Robin Hines: the remote control
Rhonda Pearson: Oh it's
Robin Hines: and
Rhonda Pearson: that's
Robin Hines: sorta
Rhonda Pearson: a that's a good idea.
Robin Hines: stagger the release of them and get people like oh I want that cover on it now and
Michelle Murphy: Yeah.
Robin Hines: that'll keep them
Heather Cain: Mm-mm.
Rhonda Pearson: Mm.
Robin Hines: spending money.
Heather Cain: Right,
Rhonda Pearson: Yeah true.
Heather Cain: okay I think we've got um a good idea now. We uh meeting is uh Needs to be k uh wrapped up fairly quickly. So uh um we've got thirty minutes to start looking at the um at the design in more detail. Um then we'll we will reconvene in in thirty minutes and try to get some of these ideas uh uh more formalised. Uh thank you very much indeed.
Michelle Murphy: Okay.
Robin Hines: Thank you. | Heather Cain opens the meeting by welcoming everybody and saying they will be developing a new television remote control. Then each group member states his/her name and role in the group. Heather Cain states that the remote needs to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The further work will be on the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Since they all know what a whiteboard is, they do a virtual drawing by each stating their favorite animal. Heather Cain tells them the project budget. They proceed to discuss problems with current remotes as well as preferable styles and looks, such as using face-plates so the look is changable. Heather Cain closes the meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay uh Agnes, you
Beverly Whitley: Yep.
Felicia Mcguinness: can help Luz Skrine for the
Beverly Whitley: Sure.
Felicia Mcguinness: when okay. Okay, welcome back. I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time. How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting. Okay, and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you. And it's in the, I think uh, in the sharing folder. And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects. So can you go to the next slide? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening. Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management, what I'm going to do, and uh, of course, I'm doing the project management and secretary both, okay, to take the minutes of the meeting. And there are three presentations. One is uh new project requirements. And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions. And uh finally we are closing. Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes, so you have to be very quick. And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal, okay, and I have to discuss a few points on this. Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project. Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded, okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology. So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design. And the second one is about uh the remote control. Should be used only for the T_V_. That's what our uh management says. And the third point, it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image, okay, with this new project or new product. Okay. So I will invite uh Agnes, can you go to the third slide?
Beverly Whitley: No, this is the third.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, So, I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design.
Tammy Finlay: 'Kay, do you wanna
Beverly Whitley: Sure.
Tammy Finlay: open the
Beverly Whitley: Um. You're participant s
Tammy Finlay: I'm number.
Beverly Whitley: Two?
Tammy Finlay: That's it.
Beverly Whitley: Do you want the mouse, or do you want Luz Skrine to
Tammy Finlay: I'll do the notes. Yeah, thanks. So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements, and from my experience, I wanna uh, and from research I did, uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button, you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point, you know. Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it. Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them. So uh, I also, since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product, thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those, and, as I said in the first meeting, um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction, especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance, and it is reliable, and so forth. I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth, so, I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic, which I kinda like the idea, 'cause it made Luz Skrine think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off, that might be interesting. And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off, and the sound on and off, and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today, uh
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Finlay: fifty years later. And uh it was really a pioneering innovation, but it was uh sensitive to the sun, so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems. So, uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r
Luz Skrine: Fantastic.
Tammy Finlay: um really uh something to keep in mind. It'd be easy to find. And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off, you could use it for something else. And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer, I didn't really know what to do with this slide. But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this, and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board. I don't know why um we were asked to do this. So, uh personal preferences, um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here, and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference. So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it. I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme, be very colourful, or you could make it clear, and um kind of blend in with things, so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home. Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof, because uh sometimes they fall into cups and, you know, it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that. Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not, because half the time, I keep pushing on the remote control, and I don't know if it's actually understood my message, so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue. And uh, course I never wanna replace the battery. So, that's those are my f preferences, and that's my presentation.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah, let Luz Skrine uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility, other feature, like uh unbreakable.
Tammy Finlay: Yes.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, because uh especially today, you know, you have the family and the kids, okay, and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes
Tammy Finlay: Run over
Felicia Mcguinness: and.
Tammy Finlay: it with a car.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes. Okay, so if you can add the feature, okay, for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay, with unbreakable, okay, I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product,
Tammy Finlay: Good
Felicia Mcguinness: if I'm
Tammy Finlay: idea.
Felicia Mcguinness: not wrong.
Tammy Finlay: Good idea, I'll I'll uh um
Felicia Mcguinness: Maybe you can uh add it in that.
Tammy Finlay: Yes, very good.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, uh thank you Christine, and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications, or any discussion on the functional design?
Beverly Whitley: Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials? 'Cause, for example, in the unbreakable thing, doing something plastic would be harder, whereas
Tammy Finlay: Hmm.
Beverly Whitley: having something like, I dunno, steel or titanium
Tammy Finlay: Titanium.
Beverly Whitley: isn't really
Tammy Finlay: Titanium
Luz Skrine: Titanium.
Tammy Finlay: would be
Beverly Whitley: economically viable.
Tammy Finlay: be heavy, too, wouldn't
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: it? No, I haven't really um I wanted feedback, I think we need to rate rank these,
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: but we'll see what your uh personal
Beverly Whitley: Sure,
Tammy Finlay: preferences
Beverly Whitley: yeah.
Tammy Finlay: are and your
Beverly Whitley: No, I
Tammy Finlay: thoughts.
Beverly Whitley: just that you had any sort of
Tammy Finlay: I like titanium. It's light.
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Luz Skrine: Expensive.
Tammy Finlay: Uh yeah
Beverly Whitley: The
Tammy Finlay: but
Beverly Whitley: marketing comes
Tammy Finlay: uh who
Beverly Whitley: out.
Tammy Finlay: who said who said
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes.
Tammy Finlay: we were, you know, nobody told Luz Skrine how mu what our financial objective is, so um
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah
Tammy Finlay: It'd
Felicia Mcguinness: so
Tammy Finlay: be hard to inflate something ou made out
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah
Tammy Finlay: of titanium
Felicia Mcguinness: the the
Tammy Finlay: though.
Felicia Mcguinness: I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing. Uh let Luz Skrine go quickly, maybe if I can go back. I know the project plan and the budget. So I can close this, not sure. Was in uh
Felicia Mcguinness: S This.
Felicia Mcguinness: So let Luz Skrine see where is this file.
Beverly Whitley: That's Christine's.
Felicia Mcguinness: This is Christine.
Beverly Whitley: And that's mine,
Felicia Mcguinness: That's
Beverly Whitley: I think.
Felicia Mcguinness: yours, okay. Saving.
Beverly Whitley: In modified.
Luz Skrine: I don't know, I think verbally
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay,
Luz Skrine: we
Felicia Mcguinness: uh
Luz Skrine: can
Felicia Mcguinness: I will I
Luz Skrine: we
Felicia Mcguinness: will
Luz Skrine: can
Felicia Mcguinness: send
Luz Skrine: pretty
Felicia Mcguinness: you
Luz Skrine: much
Felicia Mcguinness: a mail,
Luz Skrine: sell.
Felicia Mcguinness: okay? The project may be the the project aim, okay. At the end of the day, the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro. Okay, and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side. Okay, that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market. Okay. Then uh you can come back with your feedback. And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion. This remote control, okay, it can be for like universal, to use for any T_V_. Okay, and it will be slim, okay, and uh
Tammy Finlay: Not fat?
Felicia Mcguinness: Not fat.
Tammy Finlay: Not fat, huh.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay.
Tammy Finlay: Might be hard to find, though.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: Hmm.
Felicia Mcguinness: But let's try it, okay,
Tammy Finlay: Oh,
Felicia Mcguinness: with
Tammy Finlay: okay.
Felicia Mcguinness: the different uh the designs, okay, the functional designs. Okay? So any other questions?
Luz Skrine: Uh from her side, I don't think uh there's too many more questions.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay.
Luz Skrine: If you can
Felicia Mcguinness: Thank
Luz Skrine: come
Felicia Mcguinness: you
Luz Skrine: to
Felicia Mcguinness: Christine
Luz Skrine: the
Felicia Mcguinness: for uh time being, so then uh Ed, so
Luz Skrine: Okay,
Felicia Mcguinness: can you
Luz Skrine: from
Felicia Mcguinness: tell
Luz Skrine: the
Felicia Mcguinness: about
Luz Skrine: marketing yeah, from the marketing side, just to to give an idea what the management is looking for, I was looking for a a remote control to
Beverly Whitley: S
Luz Skrine: have a
Beverly Whitley: 'scuse
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Beverly Whitley: Luz Skrine for one sec.
Luz Skrine: I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro with, a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro. For what uh I think from what we're trying to find, we're tr we're looking for, I don't think that price is exactly in the market. Okay?
Felicia Mcguinness: Mm-hmm.
Luz Skrine: I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys, uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five, eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy. Twenty-five Euros, uh that's that's a preson reasonable price. That's a market price right now. Now if we're gonna take a risk,
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: and push this up a bit, make it more expensive, but give them added things that they don't have now,
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: then it w it could possibly sell. Obviously the risk is there. Too expensive, they're not gonna buy. But, I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group, which always spends more money on trendy new things, speech recognition is requested. And we're talking between
Tammy Finlay: Speech recognition?.
Luz Skrine: seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote.
Felicia Mcguinness: Mm-hmm.
Luz Skrine: Obviously, we can't make a remote into a computer, but maybe simple commands. I dunno, louder, softer, on, off. That might be a possibility, even though it costs more, to be the first on the market to produce this. Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use. So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly. Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time. So maybe one word speech recognition commands, say remote, and there's a beep beep beep, and they can find it through, you know, ten tons of newspapers, magazines, whatever you have at home. But, in the cost that uh the management is looking for, that's not gonna be possible. But if it's trendy, if it's fancy, it's got some colour to it, if it's very easy easy to use, if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control, like I said, louder, softer, change channel, on, off, remote, it goes beep beep, I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on. So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea, with the ideas of the industrial uh design. But, price obviously we have to talk about.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep. So what do you think about uh the design? Do you think you can make it or uh
Tammy Finlay: D uh I'm sorry?
Felicia Mcguinness: What do you think about uh the design, uh what he was talking about
Luz Skrine: Speech recognition.
Felicia Mcguinness: of the speech recognition?
Tammy Finlay: Well, uh training is always an issue with uh commands.
Felicia Mcguinness: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Finlay: So um might uh we can to spend some time in the training process, uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost. Not sure how. But um anyway, um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life. And um so, maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it. So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh, you know, gets
Beverly Whitley: Hmm.
Tammy Finlay: uh, from the light, um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things.
Beverly Whitley: It seems also like with the speech recognition, yeah, it's a great feature, but if you're watching T_V_, there's a lot of ambient sound, and it's words. It's not just, you know, noises like something hitting. It's actual speech, so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech, and the the user's speech. Otherwise, you can say remote.
Tammy Finlay: Off.
Beverly Whitley: But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing, all of a sudden, you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies, because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_. So, I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems, then yeah, it'd be a really good
Luz Skrine: Mm.
Beverly Whitley: marketing gimmick. But, I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation.
Tammy Finlay: Very good point.
Luz Skrine: Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Luz Skrine: if it's a one-word recognition, 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Luz Skrine: seen in the States, a friend of mine says call Mom, and it calls up Mom.
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Luz Skrine: 'Kay the radio can be on and everything.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: Because I think s with speech recognition, if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Luz Skrine: it has to hear. I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television. If somebody's speaking on the se the television, they're not gonna stop and say remote, okay.
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Luz Skrine: So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word
Beverly Whitley: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Luz Skrine: Like
Beverly Whitley: No, I think
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Luz Skrine: in the United States where we're driving down and he said call home, and the telephone called immediately
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Luz Skrine: so well, that's kinda cute.
Felicia Mcguinness: Well, what I can uh suggest to you, Christine, okay, uh if you need some uh the technical feedback, or some training, okay, about uh this facility, especially for the speech recognition, I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_, okay, because they're already in this uh speech recognition part, okay. And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them, some kind of a technical tie-up. Okay, and uh if okay, and uh you can uh let Luz Skrine know, okay, so what kind of uh the details you require okay, to add this feature in this project. I don't think it's uh the difficult. And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop, apart from uh what today.
Tammy Finlay: Okay, we'll find that out.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: From from your side uh, you're gonna have to go back the management and s
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes.
Luz Skrine: be more s precise. What do they
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes.
Luz Skrine: want? Uh, a risk, take a risk on the market? Something that's gonna cost more, but could very easily s
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes.
Luz Skrine: make a boom in the market?
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Luz Skrine: Because it has to be something totally different, has to be total totally new. Something that nobody has right now.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah
Luz Skrine: And it's
Felicia Mcguinness: but
Luz Skrine: gonna cost.
Felicia Mcguinness: but end of the day, you're the sales guy, so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection, okay. It's
Luz Skrine: Mm-hmm.
Felicia Mcguinness: uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to
Luz Skrine: Sure.
Felicia Mcguinness: benefit,
Luz Skrine: Sure.
Felicia Mcguinness: okay. And uh, so I don't mind to convince, okay, the management to spend some more money on the project, okay, if you can make out of
Luz Skrine: Obviously.
Felicia Mcguinness: the money from this
Luz Skrine: If the
Felicia Mcguinness: project.
Luz Skrine: bottom line is positive.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yes, okay I don't mind to convince the the management,
Luz Skrine: Mm.
Felicia Mcguinness: okay. The management says, okay, so they they don't want certain facilities, which it's already worked, okay, they want something uh new, okay. I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree, I don't think they'll say no for that, okay. And uh I hope I can convince the management on that, okay. So if you have any uh new ideas, okay, for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell Luz Skrine if you need any uh s special, okay, coordination, okay, between any uh technical companies, which you can uh hide their technology backup, okay, for your uh functional design or technical design, okay, then I am ready to do that. And uh what's your comments about uh
Beverly Whitley: Um well, I mean, maybe if I go through my presentation, you can sort of see
Luz Skrine: Mm.
Beverly Whitley: what the user perspective is, and how it ties into the other two comments.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah, so you are finish, Ed, uh
Luz Skrine: Yes.
Felicia Mcguinness: so I can
Luz Skrine: Mm.
Felicia Mcguinness: uh Okay, I'll uh hand over to Agnes. Just gonna close this. T Uh where are you, here?
Beverly Whitley: Mm participant three.
Felicia Mcguinness: Participant three.
Beverly Whitley: Nope, here
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, so I'll yep.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay.
Beverly Whitley: Good. Thanks.
Felicia Mcguinness: Is it okay? Alri
Beverly Whitley: Yeah, and that's fine. Okay. So, basically, the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products. So, in our case, existing remote controls. And then, what the good ideas are, and what the bad ideas are, and why they're bad and good, which isn't always as obvious. We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad, but when you look, technically, at how it works, sometimes that's not the case. Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep, 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work. Um and then what the remote control should look like, obviously, once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are. So, in terms of the functionalities that we need, you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off. You need to change channels, both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing. You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever. So, the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls, in general. The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do. Um often, you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done, um which you don't necessarily always remember, especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often. And that the buttons are too small. So, here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side, you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons. The buttons, in a lot of cases, are tiny. Um they're hard to see, and okay, they're labelled, but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much. Whereas, on the other side, you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed. And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it. So, I would be inclined to go sort of towards this, in terms of design, rather than this. And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons, then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons. So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit, or to a minimum, sorry, make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed, so like the on button being really obvious one, the channel changing and the volume, and to keep the design basically sleek
Felicia Mcguinness: Click
Beverly Whitley: and simple.
Felicia Mcguinness: mm.
Beverly Whitley: Which, I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably. Um so, that's pretty much it, an I don't know if you guys have any questions or
Tammy Finlay: Oh, it's um, seems very understandable. Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction,
Beverly Whitley: Yep.
Tammy Finlay: and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it.
Beverly Whitley: Yes, that's true.
Tammy Finlay: So uh,
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: you know, but that's okay. That's why we're all here at the table, so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: w we it's complementary. I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh, when you hold it, is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Finlay: and
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about, th
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: th the look and the feel, and uh,
Beverly Whitley: Oh,
Tammy Finlay: you're First. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I don't have any questions. Sounds good.
Felicia Mcguinness: So for anybody need uh any help, for time being, on this
Beverly Whitley: Oh
Felicia Mcguinness: uh subjects, okay, so please come back to Luz Skrine, and uh Christine, maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim, okay, and to add some features, like we are talking about, the speech recognition and all.
Beverly Whitley: Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah.
Beverly Whitley: include, 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table, but do we actually want to incorporate all of them, or have we missed
Luz Skrine: Hmm.
Beverly Whitley: anything?
Tammy Finlay: Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide, maybe that would provide some guidance?
Beverly Whitley: Sure.
Tammy Finlay: Doesn't really tell us.
Felicia Mcguinness: So not really this
Luz Skrine: Individual
Felicia Mcguinness: one
Luz Skrine: actions.
Felicia Mcguinness: we are talk
Tammy Finlay: Well it
Felicia Mcguinness: ab
Tammy Finlay: says individual actions, it says
Felicia Mcguinness: Yep.
Tammy Finlay: user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept, supposed to work on the
Beverly Whitley: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Finlay: user interface concept, and you're supposed to keep watching the trends. Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach. I
Beverly Whitley: I thought
Tammy Finlay: think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process, that's my suggestion.
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, that will be great. And uh I'll send you the the minutes
Tammy Finlay: You can
Felicia Mcguinness: of
Tammy Finlay: object
Felicia Mcguinness: meet
Tammy Finlay: if you want to
Beverly Whitley: No, I I'm just thinking in terms of time, like
Luz Skrine: She's
Beverly Whitley: if
Luz Skrine: objecting.
Felicia Mcguinness: Yeah.
Beverly Whitley: Yes, now I'm objecting. No, I mean, I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away? I mean, it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features, um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use, maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want, but
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Tammy Finlay: I think we
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Luz Skrine: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: our meeting time has run
Luz Skrine: Right.
Tammy Finlay: out. Somebody
Beverly Whitley: Sure.
Tammy Finlay: else has go to use this room, and,
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: you know, we can't hang out here and
Beverly Whitley: Yeah.
Tammy Finlay: talk
Beverly Whitley: Sure.
Tammy Finlay: about this, so
Felicia Mcguinness: Okay, what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break, okay, then uh we can discuss furthermore, okay, with our areas, and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting. So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting, and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information. Okay?
Beverly Whitley: Okay.
Felicia Mcguinness: So let's go for lunch then.
Tammy Finlay: Thank
Luz Skrine: Agreed.
Tammy Finlay: you very
Felicia Mcguinness: Thank
Tammy Finlay: much.
Felicia Mcguinness: you. | Felicia Mcguinness gave new requirements for the product: the remote will not include a teletext function, will only be used for television, and must show the corporate image. Tammy Finlay presented possible components to consider. The group then discussed hard materials to include in the design. Luz Skrine presented an initial sales plan and showed that there is a demand for remotes featuring voice recognition and other capabilities; the group discussed how it could be integrated into the functional design. Felicia Mcguinness offered to help Tammy Finlay find companies to provide help in integrating this component. The designers expressed that they needed more information from the board on their expectations for the product. Beverly Whitley gave a presentation on product design from the user's perspective and emphasized simplicity in design. She also suggested that the group make a decision on which features to include in the final product design, but the group decided to postpone it. The designers were given their assignments: Luz Skrine will present the marketing concept; Beverly Whitley, the user interface concept; Tammy Finlay, the components concept. | 0 | amisum | test |
Olga Couch: Alright, that did nothing. Okay. Welcome to the meeting everyone. Just gonna attempt to make this into a slide show.
Olga Couch: Sorry guys.
Irene Gonzales: You may have to do the function F_ thing.
Olga Couch: I did.
Irene Gonzales: Oh, okay.
Olga Couch: Twice. This'll just take a
Leona Krul: Okay okay
Olga Couch: moment. Or it won't.
Olga Couch: Okay we'll have to deal with it like
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: this then. Alright. Um. This is the first meeting uh for developing our, our new product. I'm Heather, I'm your Project Manager.
Leona Krul: Hello.
Olga Couch: Okay. So um. So that was the opening. The first thing we'll do is get acquainted with one another. If everyone could go around and explain their role and um, and their name.
Leona Krul: My name's Poppy. I'm Leona Krul for this project. Um, I'm going to be responsible for the functional design phase. Also the conceptual design and the detailed design for the final product.
Olga Couch: Nice to meet you Poppy.
Leona Krul: Okay.
Jolene Chapman: My name's Tara and the Interface Designer. I will also be responsible for the functional design phase, the conceptual design phase and the detailed design phase of the user interface design.
Olga Couch: Alright.
Irene Gonzales: Hi, I'm Genevieve. I'm Irene Gonzales. I'm an expert at marketing. Um, I'll be telling you guys about the user requirement specifications for our new product. Um, I'll be doing some trend-watching in the conceptual design, and product evaluation for the design phase.
Olga Couch: Alright I'm Heather and I've I said I'm your Project Manager, um Well you can pretty much read what it is that I'm doing. But um um Yeah. And uh tool training is one thing that we're going to be doing today, um um as well as planning the project, how we're going to, uh, create this product, and, um, discuss, um, our aims and objects of this, uh Which brings us to our next subject, is, um, um, as a team we're going to be designing and creating a new kind of remote control. Um, we want this to be a marketable product that can be trendy, um, a completely new style, so that, um, can really appeal to a, to a generation that doesn't want a simple plain kind of, uh, channel-changer. And, um, it needs to be user-friendly for, um, maybe, for an example, for people that, um, can't see the numbers as well, or, um, perhaps an ergonomic design.
Leona Krul: Okay. So this is a television remote control?
Olga Couch: Yes,
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: it's a television remote control. Right. I believe I should be taking minutes on this right now. So, alright.
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: Um, yeah. Um, the way that we're going to go about this is, um, we'll have a time where we can, um come up with new ideas alone, and, and work on the project and then, um, after we've brainstormed and, and thought about, we can come together in a meeting and, and discuss what, what um, what kind of functional design we want to use. Same with conceptual design and detailed design. So, um, making sure that it, it's usable, that as a, um and that it's, it's feasible to create, and uh, to come up with a concept of it want, what we want it to look like. Um, tool training. Is, is everyone, um
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: Okay.
Leona Krul: Got
Irene Gonzales: Yeah.
Leona Krul: those notes.
Irene Gonzales: Thank you.
Olga Couch: Great. Great. Um One thing that, uh, we're going to do is become more acquainted with the, the tools that we have access to for our project. Um, one of them is our whiteboard. And, um, as a sort of team-building moment, um, I, I'd like us to, um, try out the whiteboard by expressing our favourite animal and the charac characteristics of that animal. Um, why that, why that should be your favourite animal. So, um, I, I'm assuming that we should do that now.
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: 'Kay. With our microphones still attached to our bodies.
Leona Krul: Okay.
Jolene Chapman: Gosh.
Olga Couch: Okay.
Olga Couch: 'Kay, what's my favourite animal? Do come up.
Leona Krul: Oh, to go first. Oh, are we all doing
Olga Couch: This is
Leona Krul: it
Olga Couch: a
Leona Krul: individually?
Olga Couch: team-building time where,
Leona Krul: Okay,
Olga Couch: um,
Leona Krul: stand up and support you
Olga Couch: okay cool, um
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Olga Couch: My favourite animal, which changes all the time, okay, right now it is an elk.
Jolene Chapman: An
Leona Krul: Okay.
Jolene Chapman: elk?
Olga Couch: alright,
Jolene Chapman: A vicious
Olga Couch: so And it goes like Yeah it's got like big antlers, yeah. Looks kinda like, like it has holly growing out of its head.
Leona Krul: Do you have elk where you come from?
Olga Couch: Yes.
Leona Krul: You do.
Olga Couch: Yeah
Irene Gonzales: We have moose too.
Olga Couch: we have moose
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: and we have deer. Do you have
Jolene Chapman: We have sheep.
Leona Krul: Sheep. Yeah, cows.
Olga Couch: 'Kay, um.
Leona Krul: That's a great elk.
Jolene Chapman: That is really good.
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Jolene Chapman: I'm quite
Olga Couch: Thanks. This is my
Irene Gonzales: Oh, very shapely.
Olga Couch: Okay.
Leona Krul: Brilliant.
Olga Couch: That's a sketching of my my elk, and it, it is my favourite animal right now, 'cause it is a large beautiful majestic creature, that um, that um In a way it looks kind of awkward, because it's on spindly legs and it uh But it can really overcome harsh terrain, and although it's gorgeous it's also very dangerous, because it has um strong antlers, and uh it can really combat its enemies, even like it it's a it's an herbivore but, uh, it can really defend itself.
Leona Krul: Mm. Very
Olga Couch: Yeah.
Leona Krul: nice. Okay.
Olga Couch: Right.
Olga Couch: Right, I'm gonna take minutes while, um, you guys
Leona Krul: Okay,
Olga Couch: express
Leona Krul: I'll
Olga Couch: your
Leona Krul: go
Olga Couch: favourite
Leona Krul: next.
Olga Couch: animals.
Leona Krul: I am a big animal lover. I like all sorts of animals, but for the moment I'm gonna draw a cat, in memory of my poor cat that died recently.
Irene Gonzales: Oh.
Olga Couch: Oh.
Leona Krul: It's gonna be a bit of a strange drawing, but never mind.
Leona Krul: Not as artistic as Heather's drawing. Bit more cartoon style. But I like cats because they're so independent, and they always seem to be doing what they want to be doing. Um, but that doesn't mean they're completely not sociable, 'cause they enjoy interacting with humans as well, and they seem to enjoy the good things like sunshine and, um, running around outside as well as being inside, and enjoying their food, and generally just, they just seemed so cool and they just know what they're doing. Uh I reckon they're sort of, they got it sorted. They know what they want. Basically, that's why I like cats.
Jolene Chapman: Very
Olga Couch: Great.
Jolene Chapman: good.
Leona Krul: I'll rub that out. There you go.
Jolene Chapman: Okay. but I'm not really sure how to draw one.
Leona Krul: Ooh.
Jolene Chapman: I, I've never drawn a dog, I don't think. I'm tempted to draw a snail 'cause I draw them sometimes and they're really easy to draw. Um,
Olga Couch: I forget her name.
Jolene Chapman: right it's
Irene Gonzales: Tara
Jolene Chapman: gonna be a really funny dog,
Irene Gonzales: or Tara.
Jolene Chapman: 'cause I'm not sure how to draw a dog.
Leona Krul: Well there are loads of different types of dogs, so I'm sure it'll represent one kind of dog.
Jolene Chapman: It's a cartoon dog I think. A s I don't ev Oh, oh well. It's a scary cartoon dog. That This, that does not look like a dog.
Olga Couch: It
Jolene Chapman: I'm
Leona Krul: We
Olga Couch: looks
Leona Krul: can pretend.
Olga Couch: kinda like a person.
Jolene Chapman: sorry.
Irene Gonzales: That's Pinocchio.
Jolene Chapman: How do you draw a dog? I suppose it has a lon Oh my god. Right. Yous know what it's supposed to be. It's a dog.
Leona Krul: Okay.
Jolene Chapman: Um, I like dogs because, um, they're so good to humans, like they can be trained to be police dogs and seeing-eye dogs, and they're just such friendly animals. And, like they're more of a companion than cats. I've
Leona Krul: Yeah,
Jolene Chapman: nothing
Leona Krul: that's
Jolene Chapman: against
Leona Krul: true.
Jolene Chapman: cats. Cats don't really like Irene Gonzales, so I can't like them. But they're just so friendly and warm and nice animals, that don't look like that.
Irene Gonzales: Alrighty. I feel like a robot. Okay. Um, well I guess I had the most time to think about it. I'm going to draw a butterfly, because I saw a butterfly yesterday, that seemed to be like the symbol of Spring arriving. And it was actually the prettiest butterfly I've ever seen out in the wild, and I though that was pretty cool in Scotland. It was like, well it was a little pointier than that. At first I thought it was a dead leaf. And then it landed on the wall next to Irene Gonzales. But this part was all brown and then it has these big blue dots like this. And then it kinda there was a green, I think it was a green ring, and there was like red going out like this.
Olga Couch: It's kinda like a peacock.
Irene Gonzales: Yeah, it kinda was actually, 'cause it was This part of the body was really dull, and then it was the most colourful exotic butterfly ever, and I'm like, wow this is the middle of Scotland in like March. So I thought that was pretty cool. And it landed by a wall and let Irene Gonzales look at it for about two minutes. I wish I'd had my camera. So that's gonna be my favourite animal because after all the snow it seemed to say that like Spring is finally here. Yeah. There you
Leona Krul: Very
Irene Gonzales: go.
Leona Krul: nice.
Olga Couch: Great.
Irene Gonzales: Uh, what do we Oh.
Olga Couch: Do you hear the eraser buzzing while you do that?
Irene Gonzales: Yes I do.
Olga Couch: Yea Right. So, now that we know how to use the whiteboard,
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: um, the next, um, thing we need to address is our financial department, to meet our our budget, um or not meet our budget but more, um, like what kind of, uh, selling range we'll be looking at, um, wanna make this um selling price of twenty five Euros. have to, um, come up with a way to, to create a, a uh remote control, where um we can like the price to create it will be significantly less. Um, we'd like to, um to, uh, make fifty million Euro. I'm assuming that's what the M_ means. Um, and make it for an international market. Um, one thing we'd have to think about internationally is in the design of, um, like different kinds of, uh, V_C_R_s. Things like that, depending on which country you are. Another thing for the design team to think about. Um, we want it to cost, uh, absolute maximum of twelve Euro and fifty cents.
Irene Gonzales: Okay, so we'll have a hundred percent profit then? Twelve fifty.
Olga Couch: I'm bad at math.
Irene Gonzales: Okay.
Olga Couch: 'Kay. Um, so now that, um, that is underway, um it is discussion time. So this is time for us to bring our initial ideas, any um suggestions that you may have so far, a um your personal experiences with remote controls, and um, um, areas you see that, uh, could be improved in your experience with them. Does anyone have any initial thoughts?
Irene Gonzales: I find that in the dark it's often hard to know what button you're pushing.
Olga Couch: Mm-hmm. So what's something we could, uh, do to remedy that?
Leona Krul: Okay.
Irene Gonzales: Um
Leona Krul: I always find that in our house the remote control always goes missing. It's always, where
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Leona Krul: is the remote control? So maybe if you could have some kind of tracking device for the remote control or some signal that you could find out where it was. I dunno, some kind of alarm. You can press a button on your wall,
Olga Couch: Yeah. It's a great
Leona Krul: signal,
Olga Couch: idea. It's a great
Leona Krul: 'cause
Olga Couch: idea.
Leona Krul: it always gets lost.
Jolene Chapman: Do yous not find that, um, like, there's a lot of, um, buttons on your remote control,
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Jolene Chapman: and
Irene Gonzales: Mm-hmm.
Jolene Chapman: you don't know what
Leona Krul: Yeah,
Jolene Chapman: half
Leona Krul: that
Jolene Chapman: of
Leona Krul: you don't
Jolene Chapman: them
Leona Krul: use
Jolene Chapman: do.
Leona Krul: half
Jolene Chapman: Yeah,
Leona Krul: of them.
Jolene Chapman: I don't know what they
Irene Gonzales: Mm-hmm.
Jolene Chapman: do.
Irene Gonzales: There's some remote controls where there's kind of a hidden panel, so all those buttons that you don't really use
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Irene Gonzales: unless you're
Leona Krul: Yeah,
Irene Gonzales: programming
Leona Krul: that's,
Irene Gonzales: or something.
Leona Krul: that's
Irene Gonzales: That's useful.
Leona Krul: Yeah, it is.
Irene Gonzales: So
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Irene Gonzales: you just have like the number buttons, power button, T_V_
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Irene Gonzales: video button.
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: Alright. Anything about, um, the look of the, uh, remote control that you might have ideas about. Maybe it could be, instead of like a standard rectangular shape, it could be, um, something more interesting like Any ideas will do that you have at this point.
Irene Gonzales: Could
Leona Krul: Mm.
Irene Gonzales: be shaped like a conch, you know. Be like a shell-shaped remote.
Olga Couch: Can
Leona Krul: A
Olga Couch: hold
Leona Krul: novelty.
Olga Couch: it.
Leona Krul: Are we going
Olga Couch: Yeah.
Leona Krul: into kind of novelty factors here. Like, I've seen
Olga Couch: Well if it's
Leona Krul: phones
Olga Couch: a trendy
Leona Krul: like a
Olga Couch: original,
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: um, aspect we're going for. I mean, you're the designers, you c,
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: you can um decide what kind of,
Leona Krul: Mm-hmm.
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Olga Couch: um, direction you wanna go in, but at this point in the, in the first meeting it can
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: be any ideas that we just throw out there.
Leona Krul: I suppose, if we're he heading to have it, like make a huge profit out of this, it needs to be quite a universally accepted thing. Like, a novelty
Jolene Chapman: Yeah.
Leona Krul: thing might only sell a few things rather than, like, a general kind of more acceptable But
Olga Couch: Mm-hmm.
Leona Krul: we don't wanna go towards boring, 'cause that wouldn't sell either. So,
Olga Couch: Yeah.
Leona Krul: hmm.
Olga Couch: And the key issue here is, is being trendy and original.
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: Um, that does not necessarily mean it needs to be outrageous.
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: Right. Okay we have five minutes left. So, just to cover We have one more thing. Um, like you can go over your ideas, of course, in your own personal times.
Leona Krul: Yeah.
Olga Couch: Um, our next meeting will be in half an hour. So you have half an hour to, uh, think about what you want to present. Or not present but bring to the meeting. Um, I_D_, whatever that stands for.
Irene Gonzales: Interface?
Leona Krul: Industrial Designer.
Olga Couch: Industrial
Irene Gonzales: Oh,
Leona Krul: That's
Irene Gonzales: industrial.
Leona Krul: Irene Gonzales.
Olga Couch: Designer. I have to remember these things. Um. You'll be beginning your, your working design.
Leona Krul: Mm-hmm.
Olga Couch: Um, U_I_D_ the technical functions design will, will be worked on the next thirty minutes. Um, maybe how this can be achieved, and, um, we need the user requirements from the manag
Irene Gonzales: Marketing
Olga Couch: Marketing
Irene Gonzales: Expert.
Olga Couch: Expert. Um, you will get specific instructions, um, of what to do in the next half an hour. And I'll see you in half an hour, okay?
Leona Krul: Okay.
Olga Couch: 'Kay.
Leona Krul: Thank you. | Olga Couch opens the meeting by introducing herself and asking everyone to say their name and role in the group. She then states the agenda of the meeting and tells them that they will be designing and creating a new remote control that should be trendy and user-friendly. The meetings will focus on functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Next, each group member draws their favorite animal on the whiteboard and explains the characteristics of that animal. After that Olga Couch covers the project budget, and then they begin discussing their personal experiences with remote controls and how they want their remote to look. Then Olga Couch closes the meeting by telling each group member what to do in preparation for the next meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Heather Steele: Okay.
Heather Steele: Right. Okay.
Heather Steele: Alright. everyone?
Debra Jones: Yep.
Darby Lacy: Yep.
Heather Steele: Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation, um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um, we just refreshed our our goal making the finest remote control available. Um we decided that, or we know that we need to use company colours, company logo. Um and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly, um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons. Um and that they often lose the it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would wanna make it simple. Um And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um And that it should look different than what's out there. Um Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it, older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it, and that it was probably a gimmick, that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um Then Darby Lacy um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user, the complex better for an engineer. Um Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote, something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote, because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source, um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip, which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand. And with a, just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that, leave it at that. So Marketing?
Debra Jones: Okay.
Heather Steele: We're watching trends.
Debra Jones: Can I have your
Heather Steele: I suppose
Debra Jones: cable
Heather Steele: that you can
Debra Jones: please?
Heather Steele: have this.
Debra Jones: Thanks.
Debra Jones: Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary, and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the
Debra Jones: functional look-and-feel design, which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update, we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote, but we can try. Um and also, as opposed to last year, this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel. Okay so from that um, as we've already said, we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that, even if it's very subtle, we need to kind of trick our consumers, so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative, we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces, which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface, discussing some of those, um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple, have limited buttons, which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for. Um we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know, I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable.
Darby Lacy: Oh it was sort of banana shaped.
Debra Jones: Yeah.
Heather Steele: A banana shape?
Debra Jones: Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is, I mean the stereotypically speaking, you kind of picture males with their remote controls, and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside. So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable, or I don't know, different options for female, male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that.
Heather Steele: So possibly
Linda Thompson: Alright.
Heather Steele: like a uh, sorry, just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones?
Debra Jones: That's what I was thinking
Darby Lacy: Those like,
Debra Jones: yeah.
Darby Lacy: yeah, sort of spongy
Heather Steele: You have one
Darby Lacy: ones.
Heather Steele: with a flag, and one with a banana and one that's a spongy
Debra Jones: Yeah. So
Heather Steele: feel to it.
Debra Jones: when you buy your remote you can buy
Heather Steele: You can
Debra Jones: various coverings.
Heather Steele: Mm various
Darby Lacy: What's it called?
Heather Steele: covers.
Darby Lacy: Cust you
Debra Jones: Personalise
Darby Lacy: personalised,
Debra Jones: your remote.
Darby Lacy: yeah.
Heather Steele: We could leave that to the cover department.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Debra Jones: Mm-hmm.
Heather Steele: We all know they've got nothing to do all day.
Darby Lacy: Okay. Why can't I see the crazy. Um yeah I talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to, will use the, consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent, um, try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they, the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology, where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question, you program the answer, and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use, where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in, and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well, but there's various different remotes, once again with lots of different buttons on, making it more complicated. So, then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice, there is a voice recognition remote control, which can control mus multiple devices. I have a there is a picture. You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples, controls four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, V_C_R_, D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels, that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting, where there has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod, which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there, and really is, and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this, which is a a a kid's remote, where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components, maybe it can have more components you know, different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your um devices, as to what, you know, things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down, which may suggest volume down, could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that, which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think, d carrying on from what I've already said, a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing, where if it was to have a speech recognition thing, you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier, as the actual remote. Um I don't it could be a graphical display, the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I Oh yeah. Just. Where are we? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M they've even got things like that. Huge things. Which is just for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah?
Linda Thompson: That's industrial design
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: for cranes, stuff like
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: that.
Debra Jones: Dunno.
Darby Lacy: And
Linda Thompson: Makes
Darby Lacy: that
Linda Thompson: sense,
Darby Lacy: yeah.
Heather Steele: Notice
Linda Thompson: makes
Heather Steele: the
Linda Thompson: sense.
Heather Steele: giant dog bone shape? Also
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: good for
Darby Lacy: See.
Heather Steele: animals.
Darby Lacy: things.
Darby Lacy: Why's my screen
Linda Thompson: Uh
Darby Lacy: crazy?
Linda Thompson: Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior. Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there, and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design, as you can see there, what we have is the board, main board of the remote control. The underside, that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip, which is the, what we were talking about, this was is the device to recognise the signals the input, and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal, which later on is being, is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself. Its job is to wait for you to press a key, then to translate that key press into infrared light signals, um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it, I don't know if you can see that properly, with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have, don't have cables, but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it. Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side, which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version. Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course, it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell, or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic, rubber, as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would
Debra Jones: Spongy?
Linda Thompson: that would serve that purpose. Um we could also use wood, or titanium.
Heather Steele: What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium?
Linda Thompson: Oh fya I don't have an information on that. However our company obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium, so I assume, I'm, I was given an okay to use it. It certainly is an expensive material, I'm aware of that, but I was given an okay. But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic, rubber, wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source, um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is, or what I was offered, or what we could use, is a basic bateer battery. Right? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough. Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is
Darby Lacy: Mm.
Linda Thompson: out of the question really. You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right? Um solar cell is interesting. May fail though, every here and there.
Darby Lacy: Would you have to leave it by the window?
Linda Thompson: Mm.
Darby Lacy: yeah.
Linda Thompson: Yeah couch
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: for a week and yeah mm. Always
Heather Steele: Works
Linda Thompson: the
Heather Steele: well in Arizona
Linda Thompson: you
Heather Steele: but in
Linda Thompson: But
Heather Steele: Edinburgh
Debra Jones: Y probably
Linda Thompson: exactly.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Debra Jones: not
Heather Steele: not
Debra Jones: yeah.
Heather Steele: so
Linda Thompson: Um the kinetic energy thing um might work, um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work. So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control, then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um There's also restrictions to, when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented, um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to, when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip, but that's not up to Debra Jones to decide really. So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip, so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells, I assume right?
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: Or is
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: anybody still
Heather Steele: No
Linda Thompson: alright.
Heather Steele: I think
Debra Jones: No.
Heather Steele: I
Debra Jones: Hmm.
Heather Steele: think batteries are probably the way to go.
Linda Thompson: Alright.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um Um With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions.
Darby Lacy: Would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of
Debra Jones: Mm.
Darby Lacy: a a
Debra Jones: Like
Darby Lacy: s
Debra Jones: a covering.
Darby Lacy: a cover on it
Debra Jones: Yeah.
Darby Lacy: which is just sort of soft and stuff. So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic. But then where do people hold it? Just
Heather Steele: Yeah.
Darby Lacy: all be sort of spongy.
Debra Jones: The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts, so they can remove it.
Darby Lacy: So you Like the
Linda Thompson: You
Darby Lacy: iPod?
Linda Thompson: can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used.
Darby Lacy: Right.
Linda Thompson: Alright? So plastic yes, titanium yes, but this will of course influence the form. With plastic, as I understand it, you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular, uh add an L_C_D_ screen, and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: Or wood even. Um if you wanna make it a particular shape, use plastic. Add
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: an L_C_D_ screen, add a scroll wheel, that'll be fine. Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much
Heather Steele: So
Linda Thompson: originality
Heather Steele: the ru
Linda Thompson: really.
Heather Steele: wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want? Or the rubbery we cannot?
Linda Thompson: With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted
Heather Steele: 'Kay.
Linda Thompson: it, but we cannot add scroll wheels, and we cannot
Heather Steele: Mm.
Linda Thompson: add an L_C_D_ screen.
Debra Jones: Mm.
Heather Steele: Mm.
Linda Thompson: That's the tricky thing.
Darby Lacy: Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen, and then j just sort of that initial shape we had, just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's thing if we did it yellow.
Heather Steele: Yeah.
Darby Lacy: And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing.
Heather Steele: Is that an option, a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at
Linda Thompson: S
Heather Steele: certain spots?
Linda Thompson: Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: the functional side of it all. Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah.
Linda Thompson: So The fruit design um How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: obviously, but uh give it like the surface of an orange, banana, whatever. You name it.
Darby Lacy: Mm.
Heather Steele: What
Linda Thompson: Just
Heather Steele: about a
Linda Thompson: design-wise.
Heather Steele: smell? T to the remote?
Linda Thompson: Mm. Nice one.
Darby Lacy: You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different
Debra Jones: Bright
Darby Lacy: ye
Debra Jones: citrus
Darby Lacy: yellows.
Debra Jones: colours yeah.
Linda Thompson: Mm.
Darby Lacy: I don't suppose we have to stick to
Linda Thompson: Well
Darby Lacy: co
Linda Thompson: we we're supposed to stick
Darby Lacy: Stick
Linda Thompson: to
Darby Lacy: to the colours yeah.
Linda Thompson: the
Debra Jones: Oh yeah.
Linda Thompson: company colours
Debra Jones: Yellow
Linda Thompson: though,
Debra Jones: and
Linda Thompson: that's
Debra Jones: grey.
Linda Thompson: yellow and grey.
Heather Steele: Yellow and grey.
Linda Thompson: So what have we, lemon, banana, is
Darby Lacy: Mm grapefruit.
Heather Steele: Grapefruit.
Linda Thompson: Grapefruit is what we'd go for, when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But mm.
Heather Steele: I would say, if I were to make a decision, I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: lower end of the spectrum of of importance. Um
Debra Jones: I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous, like
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: Well we have it banana-shaped
Debra Jones: Well we kinda
Linda Thompson: already,
Debra Jones: do yeah.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: kind of. So
Heather Steele: Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: fruit-minded remote
Debra Jones: And if it's yellow?
Heather Steele: buyer.
Linda Thompson: Right.
Darby Lacy: and if it if it was done yellow, which
Heather Steele: It's
Darby Lacy: is a company
Heather Steele: it's yellow.
Darby Lacy: colour.
Linda Thompson: I it's yellow.
Heather Steele: It's
Debra Jones: Grey buttons
Heather Steele: curved.
Debra Jones: yeah.
Linda Thompson: Well so why
Heather Steele: It's
Linda Thompson: not add
Heather Steele: sort
Linda Thompson: a couple
Heather Steele: of
Linda Thompson: of grey stripes and make
Heather Steele: couple
Linda Thompson: it look
Heather Steele: of
Linda Thompson: like a banana?
Heather Steele: couple
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: of grey stripes. We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person
Darby Lacy: On the
Heather Steele: could turn
Darby Lacy: the gr
Heather Steele: it
Darby Lacy: the
Heather Steele: over.
Darby Lacy: rubbery grips could be
Heather Steele: It would look like
Darby Lacy: grey.
Heather Steele: a banana
Debra Jones: Mm.
Heather Steele: just sitting on their table.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: There you go.
Heather Steele: Rather than rather th
Darby Lacy: It could and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl,
Debra Jones: Oh.
Darby Lacy: on the coffee table, and then people would always know where it was.
Heather Steele: Maybe the holder,
Debra Jones: Nice.
Heather Steele: if we were
Debra Jones: Could
Heather Steele: to have
Debra Jones: look
Heather Steele: a
Debra Jones: like
Heather Steele: holder,
Debra Jones: a fruit
Heather Steele: it could
Debra Jones: bowl.
Heather Steele: be shaped
Linda Thompson: It could
Heather Steele: like
Linda Thompson: be
Heather Steele: a fruit.
Linda Thompson: an ape.
Heather Steele: Could
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: be, it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: could have a variety of options here.
Debra Jones: 'Kay.
Linda Thompson: Yeah.
Heather Steele: Do you have more to your presentation?
Linda Thompson: That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials,
Heather Steele: Oh.
Linda Thompson: what the interior has to look like, and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go.
Heather Steele: Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick.
Linda Thompson: Sure.
Heather Steele: If
Linda Thompson: Hang on.
Heather Steele: I could.
Linda Thompson: There you go.
Heather Steele: Um ow. Ow.
Debra Jones: So is the two piece idea out? Or have we not decided?
Darby Lacy: Well we sort of rid of that because gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary.
Debra Jones: Oh right okay.
Linda Thompson: Well we can still design a two-piece
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: uh remote um without having a base, having one of them be a base station,
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions, or you take
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: out the smaller piece. We can still do that. However of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much.
Heather Steele: Mm-hmm.
Linda Thompson: So um which then, as I understand it, would probably limit the, limit again the the the use of certain materials, because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them, or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on.
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there.
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: But could be done, of course.
Heather Steele: Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source, um the chip-on-print, and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape, what, what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um Energy source I think we've, I think we've decided batteries, although not exciting, are probably our best bet.
Linda Thompson: Right.
Heather Steele: And we have five minutes.
Linda Thompson: Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print, as I said, the the more advanced features you want, um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version, the chip-on-print
Debra Jones: Mm.
Linda Thompson: is gonna be a cheap one. Right?
Heather Steele: 'Kay. So Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case, or the the plastic case, um then the chip-on-print is still kind of, we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex.
Linda Thompson: Yeah.
Heather Steele: But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us?
Debra Jones: Well what about what you said, like putting
Darby Lacy: Just
Debra Jones: the
Darby Lacy: just
Debra Jones: finger
Darby Lacy: maybe
Debra Jones: grips
Darby Lacy: yeah.
Debra Jones: just on
Darby Lacy: Just
Debra Jones: top
Darby Lacy: a little
Debra Jones: of the plastic?
Darby Lacy: bit of.
Heather Steele: Okay. So we would, we would have the L_C_D_ screen?
Linda Thompson: as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls, yes.
Heather Steele: 'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic, with Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Heather Steele: more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe.
Debra Jones: Yeah.
Linda Thompson: M more of a l lamination perhaps.
Darby Lacy: Yeah.
Debra Jones: So then for the scroll, are we going for the iPod type?
Darby Lacy: Yeah I think so.
Debra Jones: Yeah?
Darby Lacy: I think.
Debra Jones: Okay.
Heather Steele: Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right?
Linda Thompson: Yes. It does.
Heather Steele: 'Kay. So
Heather Steele: I guess that, is that, is that about it? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this?
Linda Thompson: Right.
Heather Steele: Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um Here's what's gonna be going on. Um Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design.
Linda Thompson: Right.
Heather Steele: Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface. So that basically just be working on the prototype, uh we'll accomplish your other two actions.
Heather Steele: Alright. Okay. Let's do it. | Heather Steele reviewed the minutes of the previous meeting. Debra Jones discussed the results of trend watching reports which indicated a need for products which have a fancy look and feel, are technologically innovative, easy to use, include a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy in feel. Debra Jones stressed the need to incorporate these findings into the team's design and suggested that the team should create a remote that has limited buttons , can be personalized, and is not rectangular. Darby Lacy briefly described how speech recognition technology works and what ways a user can use a remote. Darby Lacy presented three existing products on the market - a voice recognition remote, an iPod, and a children's remote - and discussed a few features to include in the team's design. Linda Thompson discussed the interior workings of a remote and the restrictions involved in combining various components, energy sources, and materials. Linda Thompson also discussed with the how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into their design. The team then discussed and decided what components, materials, and energy sources to use. | 0 | amisum | test |
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: So I see all everybody's here, 'kay.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: Yep.
Eloisa Epley: And we can start meeting.
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Kathleen Powell: What's the agenda for this meeting?
Eloisa Epley: The I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides
Kathleen Powell: Okay
Eloisa Epley: to you. Um as you can see here.
April Harvey: Perfect.
Eloisa Epley: So first uh just to mention I will take notes
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: uh of this meeting and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you. I've also made notes of the previous meeting and um I was about to send them you but then uh I had to go to this uh meeting so you will get them too uh
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: Next.
Eloisa Epley: Um.
April Harvey: So y you the also.
Eloisa Epley: Yes.
April Harvey: Right? Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Indeed. Um. Then I hope you all have uh worked out some
April Harvey: Perfectly
Eloisa Epley: some
April Harvey: yeah yeah
Eloisa Epley: uh
April Harvey: of course uh-huh.
Eloisa Epley: some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting. Um. W We will uh in a minute we will uh start with them. Um, we will see in which order we will handle them of. Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I got uh from the uh account manager, I try to work them out, they were quite abstract, and we
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: can have maybe have com some discussion about it. Uh Um about the functions and Well in this meeting we should really try to reach a decision about the target group
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: and the functionality of the
April Harvey: You mean the social target group
Eloisa Epley: Yes
April Harvey: who we
Eloisa Epley: I mean
April Harvey: wants
Eloisa Epley: well
April Harvey: to target?
Eloisa Epley: yes w who are we going to uh to
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: well
April Harvey: Oh the
Eloisa Epley: to sell
April Harvey: customers,
Eloisa Epley: this,
April Harvey: okay.
Eloisa Epley: the customers,
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: indeed yes. Think that's that's important
Kathleen Powell: That's the big question
Eloisa Epley: matter.
Kathleen Powell: yeah.
Eloisa Epley: Uh. So And then uh we will close this meeting uh and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch. Good. Um. Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations?
Kathleen Powell: No, I don't.
Eloisa Epley: You don't have presentation?
Kathleen Powell: I wasn't. No.
Eloisa Epley: Uh you want a table to to uh
Kathleen Powell: I c I can talk about it but I have no
Eloisa Epley: Yes
Kathleen Powell: slides
Eloisa Epley: yes
Kathleen Powell: or anything.
Eloisa Epley: maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm. Well I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group so, a hundred people, just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control. Um. It's probably can't email this to you, I've just got a web page with some data on it. Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls. Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: Um. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Um. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot, so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television. Uh. Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons, so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: Um.
Eloisa Epley: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page
Kathleen Powell: I have
Eloisa Epley: you
Kathleen Powell: an
Eloisa Epley: said?
Kathleen Powell: a web page yes.
Eloisa Epley: Yes, mayb maybe you can can send an email to Kathleen Powell later uh.
Kathleen Powell: Yep. Yep, sure.
Eloisa Epley: Uh about this.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm. So basically um there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control. Um, power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour. Um, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um and then there's things like channel settings, audio settings, which are only used very infrequently.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: Um. Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour, so it is used but not nearly as much as
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: the channel selection is used. Um. An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room,
Eloisa Epley: Yes
Kathleen Powell: so
Eloisa Epley: yes,
Kathleen Powell: some
Eloisa Epley: I
Kathleen Powell: way of
Eloisa Epley: have that too.
Kathleen Powell: some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users. Um. Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control, they want something that's easier to use straight away, more intuitive perhaps.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: Um.
April Harvey: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's
Kathleen Powell: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to
April Harvey: Okay
Kathleen Powell: use a
April Harvey: too
Kathleen Powell: new
April Harvey: much
Kathleen Powell: one.
April Harvey: time to learn.
Kathleen Powell: Yep.
April Harvey: Okay.
Kathleen Powell: Um.
April Harvey: Not enough
Kathleen Powell: And thirty twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. I don't know how we'd go about combating that.
Rosa Benefield: What do you mean there?
Kathleen Powell: For R_S_I_? Respet Repetitive strain injury.
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: So. But
Eloisa Epley: They think that or do their doctor the doctor says?
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: users huh?
Kathleen Powell: That's what the report
Eloisa Epley: So
Kathleen Powell: says yeah.
Eloisa Epley: mm.
Kathleen Powell: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown
April Harvey: Maybe
Kathleen Powell: on
April Harvey: y y you cannot put this webpage online on the
Kathleen Powell: Uh I should be able to actually, if I email it to you now.
Rosa Benefield: You can disconnect it there no?
Eloisa Epley: You can maybe just just
April Harvey: Ah it's
Kathleen Powell: Oh no, yeah.
April Harvey: it okay it's a webpage on the C_
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
April Harvey: it's a file okay. O
Kathleen Powell: Um,
April Harvey: otherwise
Kathleen Powell: s hang
April Harvey: you.
Kathleen Powell: on.
Rosa Benefield: Then you can connect this one
April Harvey: can
Rosa Benefield: or
April Harvey: this
Rosa Benefield: this
April Harvey: one.
Rosa Benefield: one yeah. All to your computer.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Well.
April Harvey: So these are important numbers that Matthew and I need to take
Rosa Benefield: Oh
April Harvey: into account for
Rosa Benefield: yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Oh
April Harvey: our
Kathleen Powell: I need to muck around
April Harvey: functional
Kathleen Powell: with this. It's probably
April Harvey: um
Kathleen Powell: easier if you put it on yours and then I'll just email it to you.
Eloisa Epley: Hmm.
Kathleen Powell: It's just
April Harvey: Yeah
Kathleen Powell: a web link.
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
April Harvey: Yeah these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account
Rosa Benefield: Hmm.
April Harvey: for the uh both yeah user interface and
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
April Harvey: functional design.
Kathleen Powell: One thing it goes on to talk about, which is interesting, is the hang on a minute.
April Harvey: Because if there are many numbers and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: is more important.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: Yep. Um, one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control.
April Harvey: Speech recognition in
Kathleen Powell: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful.
Eloisa Epley: D do you have
April Harvey: Ah
Eloisa Epley: numbers
April Harvey: okay.
Eloisa Epley: o o on that?
Kathleen Powell: Yes, I'll just get this up.
April Harvey: So that we don't Do we not need any button on
Kathleen Powell: Well
April Harvey: the remote
Kathleen Powell: potentially
April Harvey: control
Kathleen Powell: yeah,
April Harvey: it would be
Kathleen Powell: um
April Harvey: all based on speech. Okay.
Kathleen Powell: I think even for
April Harvey: Interesting idea.
Kathleen Powell: interesti yeah I think that would not work so well. You wanna have both options.
April Harvey: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Well it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost, I mean when it
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: has speech recognition then uh
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: i then it doesn't matter where it is, my well it's we should be in range,
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: or maybe it can respond and produce sound, so say where it is.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: But the these are all quite fancy features I'm not sure whether
Rosa Benefield: Well it would
Eloisa Epley: we
Rosa Benefield: be
Eloisa Epley: will
Rosa Benefield: f
Eloisa Epley: we can make this for for twelve Euro fi
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: and fifty
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: cents.
Rosa Benefield: No you can't.
April Harvey: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is, maybe you know?
Rosa Benefield: Oh. Well, it depends you know like there is uh a very small vocabulary you want to do the operations like you want say on, off,
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: one,
April Harvey: But it's quite noisy if there
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: is the
Rosa Benefield: twenty
April Harvey: T_V_
Rosa Benefield: three, yeah.
April Harvey: uh
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: It's it's
Eloisa Epley: Yes,
Rosa Benefield: going
April Harvey: shouting.
Rosa Benefield: to be
Eloisa Epley: that
Rosa Benefield: li
Eloisa Epley: that
Rosa Benefield: it's
Eloisa Epley: that
Rosa Benefield: not going to be
Eloisa Epley: that's
Rosa Benefield: s
Eloisa Epley: mm.
Rosa Benefield: so easy but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated
Eloisa Epley: Do you have some more
Rosa Benefield: case
Eloisa Epley: important
Rosa Benefield: but it's
Eloisa Epley: facts
April Harvey: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: or
Kathleen Powell: Um
Rosa Benefield: but I don't
Eloisa Epley: can we
Rosa Benefield: know
Eloisa Epley: go
Rosa Benefield: with twenty
April Harvey: So
Eloisa Epley: to
Rosa Benefield: fi
Eloisa Epley: the next
April Harvey: you had
Kathleen Powell: Well
Eloisa Epley: presentation?
April Harvey: to to to summarise maybe the
Kathleen Powell: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control, who would pay more for it, um. Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more, it goes down from there, seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five, thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five, um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five and then
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: eight percent
Rosa Benefield: Okay
Kathleen Powell: for fifty
Rosa Benefield: it's
Kathleen Powell: five to
Rosa Benefield: uh
Kathleen Powell: sixty five.
Rosa Benefield: decline. Okay.
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: But
Eloisa Epley: Decline
Kathleen Powell: we sh
Eloisa Epley: with age,
Kathleen Powell: Yeah,
Eloisa Epley: mm.
Kathleen Powell: it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product,
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: um, which we'll be talking about later I think.
Eloisa Epley: Yes. We will talk about it later.
Kathleen Powell: Did
Eloisa Epley: Okay.
Kathleen Powell: you get the email? Yep,
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: that one. Just follow that link.
April Harvey: I thi You us
Kathleen Powell: It'll be in a different
April Harvey: yeah
Kathleen Powell: window,
April Harvey: yeah.
Kathleen Powell: yep. That's left that one. Yep.
April Harvey: Okay perfect. ...
Kathleen Powell: Mm. So that's the figure that I was just talking about there, with the different
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Kathleen Powell: demographics. Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen but there's no figures apparently on that.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: Mm 'kay.
Eloisa Epley: Okay. um Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: your presentation uh?
April Harvey: Mm I okay I stay
Eloisa Epley: Oh, this is
Rosa Benefield: Now you can move I think yeah.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm, y y you can move, uh.
April Harvey: I can move as far as Maybe I take your chair? I
Eloisa Epley: Yes.
April Harvey: okay.
Eloisa Epley: You can you can sa take my chair.
Rosa Benefield: It's a channel selection, a module, this and this
Kathleen Powell: Sorry?
Rosa Benefield: function, go to the.
Kathleen Powell: Oh.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
April Harvey: So I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer. And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control. Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction, how does it work, so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: uh what is it because I think in the product it is important. So basically um the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: And so an energy source feeds an integrated circuit, the chip, that can compose messages, usually uh through a um infrared bit
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages, alright. So my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first the the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product. I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: So for that yeah as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: and um w to to we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control and I show you the the working design. So um basically uh here is a really large view of what we want. Uh we want an on off button, it can be uh it's simple but it's it's important,
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: and also uh the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after, right. So the components I quickly draw here, is that in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver so that's my method is um will be to well my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control right.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: So of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver. This is very quick uh design, uh you stop Kathleen Powell or interrupt Kathleen Powell if uh you don't agree on it on that.
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: And um so what I have found and after a lot of work actually I I draw
Kathleen Powell: Well.
April Harvey: this I draw for you this uh schema
Eloisa Epley: Uh-huh.
April Harvey: that can be maybe too technical for you but is very important for Kathleen Powell you know.
Kathleen Powell: You drew it a long time ago?
Eloisa Epley: Is huh
April Harvey: And
Kathleen Powell: Ninety one.
Eloisa Epley: overwhelming.
April Harvey: uh that's it so I won't go into details about that but
Eloisa Epley: No.
April Harvey: uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components.
Eloisa Epley: And and why do
April Harvey: So.
Eloisa Epley: you want these kind of component? I mean, are they cheap, or are they uh reliable? What were your
April Harvey: So components you see here are the cheapest I have found and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: if it's expensive, but uh this one was not this one also really uh reliable um so yeah that's it for the working design, uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical
Eloisa Epley: Yes.
April Harvey: components but maybe yeah
Eloisa Epley: It it it's more clear now I think. So
Rosa Benefield: But is it uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in or you want to ma
April Harvey: No no no no we we will uh This is a preference but we can always change
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: uh
Eloisa Epley: What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver, I mean can you can
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: you get back to it? Yeah uh, the receiver is of course already in the television and we are not uh able to change it.
April Harvey: Of
Eloisa Epley: So
April Harvey: course yeah.
Eloisa Epley: we we must adapt to the to the receiver. I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh.
April Harvey: Yeah. We will use uh infrared protocol uh using yeah infrared and uh and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: exists and but we what we can do is uh uh adapting the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: and
Eloisa Epley: Mm. Mm.
April Harvey: uh
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: infrared bubbles.
Eloisa Epley: Yes. Okay.
April Harvey: Um. Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Thank you.
Rosa Benefield: Well it to du it's just you had to change the frequencies.
April Harvey: The frequencies? Yeah
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
April Harvey: yeah. Of course yeah in the chip you have it yeah.
Rosa Benefield: But you should be careful, people are sometime becoming problem, like a guy has recently designed a remote uh
April Harvey: That can control
Rosa Benefield: uh uh
April Harvey: o
Rosa Benefield: which
April Harvey: other
Rosa Benefield: could
April Harvey: things.
Rosa Benefield: switch off any other T_V_s,
April Harvey: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: so basically through
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: Ah.
Rosa Benefield: all the things. So maybe we should think of
April Harvey: Of course yeah we should take that
Eloisa Epley: Yeah
April Harvey: into
Kathleen Powell: That's
April Harvey: account
Kathleen Powell: handy.
Eloisa Epley: yes
Rosa Benefield: yeah.
Eloisa Epley: I I
Kathleen Powell: So if the
Eloisa Epley: I
Kathleen Powell: b T_V_ in the next apartment's
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Kathleen Powell: really loud,
Rosa Benefield: so
Kathleen Powell: you
Rosa Benefield: you can
Kathleen Powell: can
Rosa Benefield: just
Kathleen Powell: just turn
Rosa Benefield: go on
Kathleen Powell: it off.
Rosa Benefield: the street and then switch off everyone's T_V_ and you can just walk away You don't have to be near the
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: T_V_ at all.
Eloisa Epley: I
Kathleen Powell: I like
Eloisa Epley: I
Kathleen Powell: that
Eloisa Epley: feel
Kathleen Powell: idea.
Eloisa Epley: I I I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things. Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Eloisa Epley: uh
Rosa Benefield: so.
Eloisa Epley: Matthew. I I I assume you were finished here.
April Harvey: Yes.
Eloisa Epley: Uh okay.
Rosa Benefield: Okay. So I can take I think mine now
April Harvey: Okay.
Rosa Benefield: there. Okay so voila. Hmm I can take mine it's okay, voila, mm so mm. Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Oh. I Uh, sorry? I know where it is.
Rosa Benefield: It's on the desktop.
Eloisa Epley: It's uh
Rosa Benefield: Technical function.
Eloisa Epley: Yes.
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: It's uh
Rosa Benefield: Like so. Well. So um I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do, I think my last
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: presented what is going inside,
Kathleen Powell: Yep.
Rosa Benefield: so what's the user is going to see from the outside and how he is going to use it. So well the approach is that uh basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set, as Mael has pointed, and it will be decoded by the T_V_ and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons with which people can uh press and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: and uh um a and basically it sends an internal signal and decoded by the receiver. So p as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys, people are can have a speech recognition but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later. But
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: in the present scenario is that you have certain keys and you press it like your mobile phone, and it sends a message to the T_V_.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
April Harvey: Yep.
Rosa Benefield: And um so generally mm I don't have some figures sorry but um so there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household, actually so you have a standard T_V_ remote where you have just a on, off button and play, uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option. And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine, but tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows, but uh uh. Then there is uh this is the standard one with without any fancy thing you know like i it doesn't have teletext option, it can without any, it's a very simple thing, um which which you can vouch. And then you have uh what's the v video remote file which is like usually it has almost all the keys over there and, but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: something like that so i it has those so these are the standard uh commonly found remote controls in the uh market. And then whi which is generally used by the people. And then well personal preferences I would uh basically think of having a kind of aim for the next generation thing where the we could have both the uh the f a T_V_ and the remote video remote control because uh some of the keys in the video's remote control and the T_V_ they could be integrated together so that uh we could um aim for the like in the f coming future um that type of uh applications
Kathleen Powell: Okay.
Rosa Benefield: with
Kathleen Powell: How would that work? So you've got say maybe a V_C_R_ and a T_V_ which are separate, so you at home I've got a V_C_R_ remote which then changes the channel on the V_C_R_
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: and doesn't do anything on the T_V_,
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: so is it gonna be like a switch on the remote that says t use the T_V_ or use the V_C_R_? or does it know which one you want to use?
Rosa Benefield: Um actually um you could you could think of um having s a y you can have a key which could tell y it could go to the video
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: thing but um uh yo you you you still can't um in that case when it you use that the function should be able to take up the
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: V_C_R_ option and you could play it or You can also think about having like um in in few ye coming years you might even have a system where you have a separate uh sitting setup box and
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: uh you have uh um something like uh uh you do you do you suppose you are not able to watch some programme and
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: actually it downloading all the time for you
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: and uh you can just you know uh when you come back you could just switch on that thing and uh watch
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: a program. In that case you want to browse faster, browse slow, you
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: want to have
Eloisa Epley: Mm
Rosa Benefield: those
Eloisa Epley: mm
Rosa Benefield: kind of functionalities.
Eloisa Epley: mm mm mm.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: These are kind of next generation
Rosa Benefield: It's the next generation thing,
April Harvey: functionalities.
Rosa Benefield: but it
Eloisa Epley: Mm
Rosa Benefield: is going to come
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: in couple
Eloisa Epley: yes,
Rosa Benefield: of years.
Eloisa Epley: but
Rosa Benefield: It's
Eloisa Epley: I
Rosa Benefield: goi
Eloisa Epley: think it's i i it's already there, I mean the
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Eloisa Epley: hard
Rosa Benefield: it's
Eloisa Epley: disk uh recorders
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: uh I I've seen them in the shop.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
April Harvey: Mm 'kay.
Rosa Benefield: So it's going to record your things and you and
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: you you need basically the functionalities what you need in
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: both uh uh video
Kathleen Powell: That's fair enough.
Rosa Benefield: as well as in the standard
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: T_V_ thing.
Kathleen Powell: But I don't think we're trying to make a universal remote here.
Rosa Benefield: No no we are
Kathleen Powell: That's,
Rosa Benefield: not making
Kathleen Powell: yeah.
Rosa Benefield: a universal remote, we are just looking at uh giving a scenario, I have a T_V_ and tomorrow I am going to have set up box
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: which is going to sit there and
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: uh it's going to do
Kathleen Powell: Because
Rosa Benefield: that job
Kathleen Powell: y
Eloisa Epley: W
Rosa Benefield: for
Eloisa Epley: w
Rosa Benefield: Kathleen Powell.
Eloisa Epley: w w we need to decide on on on on in how far we go to in this.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: Mean,
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: you can go pretty far I f I think with with with functions and
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: possible uh future p uh
Kathleen Powell: Yep.
Eloisa Epley: prospects yes.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah. So
Eloisa Epley: But it's good to keep in mind.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: Okay so that p ends my presentation.
Eloisa Epley: Mm. Very
Rosa Benefield: Well.
Eloisa Epley: well.
Rosa Benefield: So we can always discuss about it for example uh the presently the video market actually uh this demand, video over-demand or what we call it as,
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: it's
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: presently booming up actually
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: so it i like people are providing like uh things like uh uh movies, you can select actually so you want to watch a movie and uh your p your provider gives a list of movies, and then you select those list.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: And it basically you go off, it downloads the movie, it gives for you
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: and then when you come you want to loo watch it on your T_V_. And
Eloisa Epley: Good.
Rosa Benefield: thi this is going to come.
April Harvey: Or even you don't need to download it, it's streamed uh online uh
Rosa Benefield: Yeah it can
April Harvey: yeah.
Rosa Benefield: be streamed
April Harvey: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: online for you and you can say what time I want to watch the movie
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: and Yeah so.
Eloisa Epley: Um,
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: so u um have uh received some some some some well points of of thinking over of my account manager and uh I would like to share them with you.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: Um
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: first thing is uh teletext is a well known feature of televisions but it's
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: it's getting used less and less.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: That's that's especially because of the internet of course.
Kathleen Powell: Hmm.
Eloisa Epley: So we should think about it um. Do we include it, and do we give it a prominent uh prominent uh place on on on the on well huh on the remote
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: mot control itself. Uh as uh a in any case it's it's not used, well very much, but it's it is still used.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: Um.
Eloisa Epley: Um further yes we must think, uh do we stay uh to to television only, the television as we as we all know it with with broadcasting signals and you can't go back uh huh, or do we uh uh go further as Matthew indicated by supporting uh uh recording uh devices? Uh
Kathleen Powell: So D_V_D_s and V_C_R_s?
Eloisa Epley: indeed indeed.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: And and and the hard disk recorders. Um, furthermore, uh, w we need really need to interest uh y younger customers and then with younger customers I mean people uh below the age of forty,
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: and our our current customers are mainly forty plus uh
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: which well
April Harvey: Fourteen
Eloisa Epley: Forty.
April Harvey: or for O okay. So
Eloisa Epley: So that's to that's I mean there's a market but uh they will grow older older and you'll al always need to have the the future with younger people.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: Um therefore, younger people like trendy trendy designs, so that's w we should make our our our R_C_ as trendy as possible but it should also be uh have a reliable image, so when it looks too too spacey or too fancy people will think well does it work at all. Hmm.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah it's uh well you you can follow the ideas how you want to keep the keys, you know right now if you take it you have like zero, one, two, three like a keys separately,
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: but suppose if you take the the present trend of mobile phones
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: there are like big thick keys you press on the top, it takes one number, you press on the bottom it takes another number, and uh basically uh uh so the space covered so that you don't see two separate keys there actually
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: so it it is
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: like uh um i i it is like uh
Eloisa Epley: Ma Maybe Maybe you can draw it on the
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: on the board
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Eloisa Epley: uh
Rosa Benefield: so.
Kathleen Powell: But I think taking the idea of getting inspiration from mobile phones is interesting,
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: especially if we're
Eloisa Epley: Hmm.
Kathleen Powell: going after a younger market,
Eloisa Epley: Yes yes
April Harvey: Because
Eloisa Epley: mo
Kathleen Powell: that's
April Harvey: they are
Kathleen Powell: the
April Harvey: already
Kathleen Powell: the the
April Harvey: used to that,
Kathleen Powell: mm
April Harvey: you know,
Kathleen Powell: the new
April Harvey: product.
Kathleen Powell: and the funky things,
Eloisa Epley: Yes
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: that's,
Eloisa Epley: it's recognisable
Kathleen Powell: yeah, there's lot there's lots of pretty mobile phones, not too many
Eloisa Epley: Mm mm.
Kathleen Powell: pretty remote controls. That's
Eloisa Epley: And and they are skilled uh by using it.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: So for example uh Well
April Harvey: Mm-hmm. ...
Rosa Benefield: uh Okay, it works. Fine. So, for example you
Eloisa Epley: Mael
Rosa Benefield: have uh
Eloisa Epley: can
April Harvey: Yes.
Eloisa Epley: you
Rosa Benefield: presently
Eloisa Epley: hand Kathleen Powell over this
Rosa Benefield: uh keys
Eloisa Epley: uh?
Rosa Benefield: like one, two,
Eloisa Epley: Uh thank you.
Rosa Benefield: three like this,
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: actually, and uh uh four five six like that and uh you can have keys like this in form like uh
Kathleen Powell: Okay.
Rosa Benefield: keys like that
Kathleen Powell: How much longer have we got for the meeting by the way?
Eloisa Epley: Mm well I think
Kathleen Powell: 'Cause
Rosa Benefield: Forty
Kathleen Powell: we haven't
Rosa Benefield: minutes?
Kathleen Powell: talked about demographic at all and it's
Eloisa Epley: fi
Kathleen Powell: a very
Eloisa Epley: five
Kathleen Powell: important
Eloisa Epley: min
Kathleen Powell: issue.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: so you you you can have uh keys like uh which are which are like so. too sorry, so we basically don't change the uh original order of them but then the keys are more spacious,
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: they don't look uh so there there is a very sligh thing, so if you press on the top it
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: takes the one, it takes the three, uh four, sorry four here uh five and six,
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: so the keys can be it looks you know not very much cluttered
April Harvey: Mm-hmm.
Rosa Benefield: but it looks nice for you
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: don't have too many keys but you can have a lot
Eloisa Epley: Okay.
Rosa Benefield: of options t if you
Eloisa Epley: 'Kay
Rosa Benefield: press
Eloisa Epley: I
Rosa Benefield: on
Eloisa Epley: I
Rosa Benefield: the to
Eloisa Epley: think now that the idea's
April Harvey: Yep.
Eloisa Epley: clear.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: Uh we should now uh try to decide um on our target group.
Kathleen Powell: Yeah. Which I think is quite tricky.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Um, basically we're trying to get people to buy a remote control wouldn't they already have a remote control with their television when they buy one?
Eloisa Epley: Of course they have already one. So our our our remote control has to be better.
Kathleen Powell: But
Rosa Benefield: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: it's not going to have more functionality, 'cause it's only a low market, it's a cheap-end remote control, we can't beat modern functionality, we might we'll be able to beat them on th the look of it, th the design of it but that's not a big seller, if they're not just going to buy a new remote control just 'cause it looks pretty,
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: they have to actually need it as well. So I'm not sure how we can get people to buy this thing.
Eloisa Epley: Mm. I well I think many people said uh in your in in your research uh
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: uh uh the appearance of the uh R_C_ is is important when they are buying one
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: but
Kathleen Powell: But why are they buying one in the first place?
Eloisa Epley: Indeed. So that will be about functionality
Kathleen Powell: Mm. But if people are buying a new remote control for functionality they'll buy a universal remote. I've got friends who've got so many things they need a universal remote, otherwise they're using five different remotes
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: for their all their
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
Kathleen Powell: things.
Eloisa Epley: Mm.
Kathleen Powell: In that case they wouldn't buy our product, because it doesn't give them what they need in terms of functionality.
Eloisa Epley: So your you think we should go for a more u universal high-performance
Kathleen Powell: Well, we can't, with the price range. We We're not building a universal remote,
Eloisa Epley: What
Kathleen Powell: we're
Eloisa Epley: do
Kathleen Powell: not building a high end product.
Eloisa Epley: What do you think about
April Harvey: Yeah
Eloisa Epley: What
April Harvey: we
Eloisa Epley: componen
April Harvey: have yeah twelve point five Euros
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: uh per uh per R_ s R_C_ and I think uh with this now you know that chips are very uh cheaps
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: and uh we can include it in our control some new new features.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
April Harvey: Yeah. And
Kathleen Powell: But
April Harvey: um
Kathleen Powell: yeah.
April Harvey: But yeah
Kathleen Powell: If
April Harvey: that's
Kathleen Powell: we're getting into universal remote territory, we're getting to L_C_D_ screens and things like that which would drive the cost up a lot.
Eloisa Epley: I
April Harvey: Ye
Eloisa Epley: don't know. I don't know whether that's necessary. Is the L_C_D_
April Harvey: I don't
Kathleen Powell: For
April Harvey: think
Eloisa Epley: screen
Kathleen Powell: universal
April Harvey: L_C_D_
Kathleen Powell: remotes
April Harvey: is not necessary well,
Kathleen Powell: If you mm.
Eloisa Epley: I think
April Harvey: th
Eloisa Epley: thi
April Harvey: for long
Eloisa Epley: this
April Harvey: term.
Eloisa Epley: could be this could be a market because uh universal remote controls uh tend to be uh quite expensive.
Kathleen Powell: And quite complicated
Eloisa Epley: S
Kathleen Powell: to use, yes.
Eloisa Epley: so we can try to go in between, and offer a product which is not as expensive and not as
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: complicated
Kathleen Powell: Not as flexible maybe,
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: yeah, but s
Eloisa Epley: but but
Kathleen Powell: yeah.
Eloisa Epley: still but still people have the idea this is more functional than a normal uh uh
April Harvey: Universal.
Eloisa Epley: R_C_ because
April Harvey: Yeah.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: it has more uh it it is in some kind universal.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm. But if we're going for the say fifteen to twenty five age group then not many of them would actually own T_V_s to use a remote control on.
Eloisa Epley: Mm yes but w we're targeting I think on more on the on the twenty to forty group.
Kathleen Powell: Okay. So they're
Eloisa Epley: People
Kathleen Powell: yeah.
Eloisa Epley: yes. Who just have or already have a job and have the money
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: but may not want to spend that much money on a
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: on a universal
Kathleen Powell: Yep.
Eloisa Epley: universal control.
Kathleen Powell: I don't know really what the the price range for remote controls is. Are we gonna be at the very bottom of the price range, or are we kind of middle to bottom? I don't know.
Eloisa Epley: Uh
April Harvey: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: well I think uh when we think it over I thi I think
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: we are trying to offer the a kind of universal control for for less money.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: So d
Rosa Benefield: Well
Eloisa Epley: Do you agree?
Rosa Benefield: Well I it's fine with Kathleen Powell like the price as long as it is uh not too expensive.
April Harvey: Yeah because
Rosa Benefield: Uh and
April Harvey: we have
Rosa Benefield: it d
April Harvey: to
Rosa Benefield: uh
April Harvey: take into account that
Rosa Benefield: Our
April Harvey: we are gonna
Rosa Benefield: provin
April Harvey: b we are gonna sell uh four aro around four million so when we speak about these numbers uh the price of a chip is uh price of a chip is very cheap.
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: Mm.
April Harvey: So I'm okay for designing um a ne uh less yeah a a kind of universal uh R_C_
Eloisa Epley: Mm-hmm.
April Harvey: yeah.
Eloisa Epley: You think it's possible for the twelve Euro fifty?
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: Okay. Um so then we we decide on on on going to this more universal kind of control.
Rosa Benefield: Uh yeah, that's that's what we needed basically.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: Mm. Mm. Okay.
Rosa Benefield: Uh that's needed right now. And
April Harvey: Yeah that's
Rosa Benefield: uh basically
April Harvey: needed, yeah.
Rosa Benefield: you can look
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Rosa Benefield: to the standards
April Harvey: And if
Rosa Benefield: of
April Harvey: we
Rosa Benefield: other
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
April Harvey: want to get the market, we really
Kathleen Powell: Yeah.
April Harvey: need that.
Kathleen Powell: So I
Rosa Benefield: Actu
Kathleen Powell: guess what I'd like from a universal remote is maybe choosing between three devices, being
April Harvey: Yes.
Kathleen Powell: able to switch between them, there may be stereo, V_C_R_ and T_V_.
Rosa Benefield: Yeah.
April Harvey: Exactly.
Kathleen Powell: And just be
Eloisa Epley: Yes.
Kathleen Powell: able to s use them all from the same remote, but not at the same
Rosa Benefield: Yeah
Kathleen Powell: time.
Rosa Benefield: you can
April Harvey: Is that
Rosa Benefield: also
April Harvey: okay for
Rosa Benefield: browse
April Harvey: you? Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: through all the standards
Eloisa Epley: Mm mm
Rosa Benefield: you know,
Eloisa Epley: mm mm.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Rosa Benefield: where are the limit of standards for all of them and you can just browse through them.
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: So given we are going for this uh uh universal type uh m maybe it is good when you try to find out which components you therefore need and
April Harvey: Yes.
Eloisa Epley: y you will
Kathleen Powell: Mm.
Eloisa Epley: try to get more specific uh user interface
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: content
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: and uh maybe you can look on on what trends are in
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm
Eloisa Epley: this uh
Kathleen Powell: yep.
Eloisa Epley: in this type of market.
Rosa Benefield: Voila. Hmm.
Eloisa Epley: So
Rosa Benefield: So.
Eloisa Epley: anyone uh has
Rosa Benefield: Well.
Eloisa Epley: a point to bring in or shall
Rosa Benefield: Oh
Eloisa Epley: we
Rosa Benefield: I don't
Eloisa Epley: no.
Rosa Benefield: have anything right now. We can
April Harvey: Oh that's that's
Eloisa Epley: Okay.
April Harvey: fine
Rosa Benefield: we'll
April Harvey: then.
Rosa Benefield: we'll go and we'll I'm sure we'll up something
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: W
Rosa Benefield: good for
Eloisa Epley: yes,
Rosa Benefield: the
April Harvey: Yeah.
Eloisa Epley: we uh we can have lunch now.
Kathleen Powell: Mm-hmm.
Eloisa Epley: So um
Rosa Benefield: Yeah so we
Eloisa Epley: Then
Rosa Benefield: meet in
Eloisa Epley: th
Rosa Benefield: well what
Eloisa Epley: th
Rosa Benefield: are our
Eloisa Epley: the next meeting will uh after lunch you have uh we have uh thirty minutes of work and then we have the next meeting. But you will be informed via the computer.
Rosa Benefield: Okay.
Eloisa Epley: Okay.
Rosa Benefield: Cool.
April Harvey: Okay
Rosa Benefield: So
April Harvey: perfect.
Rosa Benefield: see you later. | Eloisa Epley opens the meeting and presents the agenda using slides. Kathleen Powell explains the research she read about, which is a study done on 100 people asking their remote usage habits and preferences. April Harvey presents, explaining the basic function of a remote control and how it works. He says they should first agree on the technical functions before he creates working design and chooses the chips and infrared components to build it. The Interface Designer gives his presentation, talking about the remote's technical function of sending a message to the TV set that is decoded by the TV. Standard TV remotes have an on/off button, play, volume change, number keypad, and a 1 or 2 digit option. He suggests that in aiming for the next generation they should have a remote for the TV and video integrated together. Eloisa Epley recieves a message from account manager, which he shares with the group. They discuss and determine the target group as well as the possibility of making a universal remote for stereo, VCR, and TV. They close the meeting with Eloisa Epley telling each group member what they will do before the next meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Magdalene Warbritton: Did you get my email with the slides?
Magdalene Warbritton: Ah. Tricky.
Debra Sutton: I guess I have to change the pen otherwise Will. be completely
Magdalene Warbritton: Dunno.
Debra Sutton: different.
Magdalene Warbritton: Maybe they're supposed the pen's supposed to go over the seats. Might be seat floor rather than person. Yeah, put it back.
Debra Sutton: Yeah. And do you think it's.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep. Yeah. Jo's making faces at Magdalene Warbritton.
Lee Allen: Okay.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: So. Matthew is uh late again.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: Probably an important man. Um. So well it is important for him to be here uh.
Debra Sutton: Yeah. So what can
Lee Allen: He
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Debra Sutton: Yeah we
Lee Allen: did
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Lee Allen: work together didn't
Debra Sutton: yeah,
Lee Allen: you?
Debra Sutton: so I will be able to to summarize uh our meeting, but
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: still I think uh it would be in very important if the uh as um main designer. I think we can put on the here.
Lee Allen: Yes. Yes.
Debra Sutton: Uh basically w yeah we we designed the two uh items.
Lee Allen: Mm. Um
Debra Sutton: Um,
Lee Allen: yes but w we
Debra Sutton: have a phone, can someone
Lee Allen: Yes, maybe we should phone him.
Debra Sutton: it's really
Lee Allen: Um
Debra Sutton: w well
Lee Allen: well
Debra Sutton: designed.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: Um,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm,
Lee Allen: when he is not here
Magdalene Warbritton: object
Lee Allen: we will
Magdalene Warbritton: tracking.
Lee Allen: just we just have to continue. Um so
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: just for record I I will take uh notes again.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: And um well first thing uh I was uh uh I got an email from uh from my superior again that we really should stay within the budget of the
Debra Sutton: 'Kay.
Lee Allen: uh twelve Euro and fifty cents. It's uh well he said to Magdalene Warbritton well uh when you stay in it's good, when you don't stay in you have to redesign. There is no uh no negotiation uh possible in this matter. So we have to consider that.
Debra Sutton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Good. Um so maybe Anna, you can have your
Magdalene Warbritton: Well
Lee Allen: presentation.
Magdalene Warbritton: we can't no we can't do evaluation 'til we have a design.
Lee Allen: Okay Matthew. Nice uh you are here.
Debra Sutton: Great.
Lee Allen: Great. Great. Oh ma maybe then you can start now with mm presenting your uh your designs.
Debra Sutton: Yep. So I will start by the the basic one that uh fits into uh eight Euros actually,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: right, seven eight Euros, and uh well first for both they have um a special shape, maybe the designer can uh explain better than Magdalene Warbritton, but uh it's like a surf board. And
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm 'kay.
Debra Sutton: you you are supposed to surf to browse to surf T_V_, maybe the web, and uh it's kind of interesting shape because um unconsciously people want to s to surf when
Melissa Long: Or
Debra Sutton: they see
Melissa Long: browse.
Debra Sutton: this stuff. And also it's not too far from um a mobile.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: So
Melissa Long: Mm.
Debra Sutton: people are used to that kind of shape,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: right. Don't take care too much about the colour because w yeah
Melissa Long: Now we are
Debra Sutton: we don't
Melissa Long: to give
Debra Sutton: take
Melissa Long: some oper
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Melissa Long: offers right now.
Debra Sutton: So here would be basically the the the infrared uh
Lee Allen: Eye.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: uh
Melissa Long: I yeah.
Debra Sutton: led yeah L_A_ L_A_ L_E_D_,
Melissa Long: L_E_D_.
Debra Sutton: the on-off button, in
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: red. Here would be the volume.
Magdalene Warbritton: Oh yeah.
Debra Sutton: On the on the
Lee Allen: Uh-huh.
Debra Sutton: left,
Melissa Long: Mm-hmm,
Debra Sutton: okay,
Melissa Long: hmm.
Debra Sutton: so easy
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: to turn on t and off. And um so this is a very cheap version so there are maybe you can carry on uh Matthew.
Melissa Long: Also so you have uh uh browsing the channels, actually so you
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: can go up and down
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: the channels, uh, if you have a video or something you can forward,
Debra Sutton: How can
Melissa Long: back.
Debra Sutton: you change from V_C_R_ to uh T_V_, by the way?
Melissa Long: Oh no no no, this is a single this this is a model with just the T_V_ one.
Debra Sutton: Okay yeah.
Melissa Long: No
Debra Sutton: Yeah
Melissa Long: no
Lee Allen: Ah,
Melissa Long: just sorry,
Lee Allen: okay.
Melissa Long: this
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Melissa Long: is a standard T_V_ one we, are not talking about that. So and then we have usually there twelve keys but we know that we rel that we have only ten digits.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: The extra two are for uh having or giving an option for uh having more than one channel. And the other one is for the teletext or something you want to
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: browse through from that.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay
Melissa Long: Actually.
Magdalene Warbritton: so it's it's t a very basic remote then, it's
Melissa Long: It's
Magdalene Warbritton: only
Melissa Long: a very basic minimal
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: thing which you
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: can
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: which
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: is which is also available in the market, actually that's what it that it i and would cost us
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: to build it
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Seven,
Melissa Long: about eight
Debra Sutton: eight, ei
Melissa Long: Euros.
Debra Sutton: eight Euros.
Lee Allen: Exce except for the for the special shape, the surfing board, it has a quite
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: a a conventional layout of buttons
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: uh.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: So this one model and uh
Magdalene Warbritton: Can I see?
Melissa Long: yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Thanks.
Melissa Long: Sure.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay I like the volume control, that's good.
Melissa Long: Th this is a magic one but I know we don't want to talk about that, you know like uh i i i it is a very futuristic, it's like uh it's like a brain machine interface and all this
Magdalene Warbritton: Uh-huh.
Melissa Long: stuff we are
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: thinking about in the future, it can come.
Magdalene Warbritton: So it doesn't actually have buttons.
Melissa Long: So that uh then what we look
Magdalene Warbritton: Did you wanna see?
Melissa Long: t yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm. Yeah no you
Melissa Long: This
Lee Allen: can
Melissa Long: is a
Lee Allen: carry
Melissa Long: model,
Lee Allen: on,
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: I just look how it feels all. Yes it really feels like like like a mobile phone.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: Yep.
Lee Allen: Just I'm
Debra Sutton: Yeah actually, yeah.
Lee Allen: I really want to talk to it. But.
Magdalene Warbritton: It won't talk back.
Lee Allen: So but but continue with your
Melissa Long: Uh so
Lee Allen: uh mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: well then the this is the a more a little uh smooth and it gives a lot of functionality, uh in this way, so all we have uh th you see there are only six keys, but don't worry they are ma they are doing the job of twelve keys actually
Magdalene Warbritton: Right.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: here. And so they have more space actually
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: and uh it's easy to uh use this and uh you have um so this is a standard uh uh infrared eye, and then you have a power button, which l volume, what you have,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: and then other than that you have uh channel up and down and uh f slow pause or s slow
Debra Sutton: Play,
Melissa Long: lo
Debra Sutton: pause.
Melissa Long: yeah s pause or stop, and uh then uh you can uh you have a L_C_D_ display,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: here and uh y this is a functional thing which can change like it's a toggle switch which could change the function say, y you
Lee Allen: From
Melissa Long: press
Lee Allen: D_V_D_
Melissa Long: it
Lee Allen: player to television
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: or
Debra Sutton: Exactly
Lee Allen: something.
Melissa Long: I
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Melissa Long: really can change
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: To
Melissa Long: it,
Debra Sutton: audio
Melissa Long: so
Debra Sutton: and to
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: Instead
Debra Sutton: video
Melissa Long: of having
Debra Sutton: on
Melissa Long: many
Debra Sutton: demand.
Melissa Long: switches,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: Yes
Melissa Long: y
Lee Allen: and and and then you get feedback via the L_C_D_ yeah.
Melissa Long: The L_C_D_ can display
Debra Sutton: Yes.
Melissa Long: what is
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: that on that, and uh well you can have a integrated microphone over here,
Debra Sutton: This is the orange
Melissa Long: or
Debra Sutton: button, the
Melissa Long: in the button
Debra Sutton: microphone.
Melissa Long: th here, so
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: which can uh basically you want to do a speech recognition and uh that channel a lot of information can be di displayed here directly on the um on
Debra Sutton: An
Melissa Long: your on
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Melissa Long: your display. And here is a small L_E_D_ which is like blinking one,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: which tells you like uh are you running out of the battery, and which is can be useful for the locating as I was talking earlier
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: okay.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: And uh well then we have a cover basically, basically you don't need much of the time this,
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: when you need you can use it, and this gives additional functionality that tomorrow you want you can add a tactile thing to
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: this cover
Debra Sutton: Crazy
Melissa Long: you know.
Debra Sutton: dis designer, okay.
Melissa Long: Design enter.
Lee Allen: Yeah but but but but uh i in there uh when this is closed,
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: will it also uh cover up the L_C_D_
Debra Sutton: Yeah
Lee Allen: screen?
Debra Sutton: yeah yeah yeah.
Melissa Long: Yeah. It's basically to
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: do
Lee Allen: But
Melissa Long: that.
Lee Allen: but the L_C_D_ screen I mean is a very uh well an eye-attracting feature which shouldn't
Melissa Long: Actually
Lee Allen: be shouldn't
Melissa Long: when you
Lee Allen: be
Melissa Long: are watching the T_V_,
Debra Sutton: Oh actually well.
Melissa Long: when you are watching anything or listening to them, you hardly care about what is getting displayed here, you know, uh
Lee Allen: That th
Melissa Long: you
Lee Allen: that's
Melissa Long: want
Lee Allen: true.
Melissa Long: to uh and this gives a protection to the L_C_D_ actually, giving a cover to that actually.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: Gives a protection because when it falls down or something it it is
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: it
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: is
Lee Allen: Yes.
Melissa Long: is is it
Lee Allen: Yes,
Melissa Long: gives
Lee Allen: more
Melissa Long: a
Lee Allen: robust.
Melissa Long: protec it's more robust that way.
Lee Allen: Yes okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Uh yeah. And you have very good chances
Debra Sutton: It's low weight. You have to
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: see yeah yeah the the components we put inside is very low weight.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: So the the cost is actually a bit more, it's uh
Melissa Long: It
Debra Sutton: it's it's sixteen Francs.
Melissa Long: Sixteen Euros.
Debra Sutton: Sixteen Euros sorry.
Lee Allen: Okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: So it's well outside the budget then.
Debra Sutton: Then it's out of budget. But
Lee Allen: But
Debra Sutton: the
Lee Allen: w
Debra Sutton: the main point we we talk about that with our uh manufacturer. And
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: they say basically that the S_R_ system would be uh something like three Francs per item
Melissa Long: Three Euros.
Debra Sutton: so three Euros sorry. And um
Magdalene Warbritton: That's on top of the sixteen, or is it part of that?
Debra Sutton: No no no, part of that, yeah.
Melissa Long: Part of that.
Magdalene Warbritton: So that takes it down to thirteen Euros without the
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Magdalene Warbritton: speech recognition.
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm 'kay.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Well uh if you we can have if you have new more ideas we can add new more uh some more keys if you want to you know
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: Well I think th th yeah we should stick with uh a number of
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: keys because if we add too much then
Melissa Long: Yeah it it should
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: it's
Melissa Long: not
Debra Sutton: too
Melissa Long: be cluttering up everything.
Magdalene Warbritton: What's this one on the side?
Melissa Long: Ah that's for the it's kind of a L_E_D_
Debra Sutton: Locati.
Melissa Long: for
Debra Sutton: Location.
Melissa Long: indicating your battery
Magdalene Warbritton: Ah okay.
Melissa Long: and as well as it's like a blinking one you
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: know you can
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: keep it aside.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm 'kay. I like the shape of them, I do like the
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: the size
Lee Allen: Well well
Magdalene Warbritton: and the the shape.
Lee Allen: Mm. Be before ta talking about the money and what's possible
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: and what is not possible, maybe Anna you can uh give our uh give us your
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: um
Magdalene Warbritton: And maybe we run the evaluation on both of the products, both of these two.
Lee Allen: Yes. Evalua evaluation and also the evaluation criteria, so what
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: what is important to look at.
Magdalene Warbritton: Basically this is what we've talked about already, um,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: from the marketing point of view. We just wanna make sure that we've taken into account
Lee Allen: Well just
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: do it quickly if if we al already.
Magdalene Warbritton: So it's just a shortlist of criteria on
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: um the things that we've identified as being important to selling the product. Um we just go through these and rate them as a group and then at the end we'll make an evaluation based on that, so just average the score of those items, so These are the things we identified as being important. Um the three things were look and feel, innovation and ease of use,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: were the three important components um appealing to the correct demographic so using those things in the right way to appeal to our demographic. And then goin following the company motto, following the fashion trends and putting that into the product as well. So well do you wanna go through and put through those on the the two products now or do we wanna discuss them further and then evaluate them?
Lee Allen: Um, n no why not why not discuss uh discuss it now,
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. So f just go through onto the whiteboard I guess. Not sure how this is gonna come out.
Magdalene Warbritton: So the first one was really very far below budget, would you want to take the price down of the end product according to that or just have the high profit on it? 'Cause if we're only going to make it for eight Euros then we have a
Lee Allen: Mm, well my my personal view is uh w when when this one is eight Euros we must think how can we improve it.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: And then I mean w w w you must just see it we can still spend this four
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: and a half Euro and
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: to r because th th th the the selling price is already prite fik uh uh quite fixed on twenty five Euros
Debra Sutton: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: so we just have to offer as much as as
Debra Sutton: Functionality.
Lee Allen: well value for the for the customer uh he can have for twenty five Euro.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay so look and feel, innovation
Melissa Long: And now it easy to use.
Debra Sutton: Easy to use.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: target.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: And trends. Oh, you following the idea of using the um removable covers on these? Is that
Lee Allen: Um
Magdalene Warbritton: part of both of them
Lee Allen: well
Magdalene Warbritton: or?
Lee Allen: w w we can still discuss that.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: So um, and together with evaluating this uh we we might come with new ideas I mean
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: adding things or uh removing uh of options because they are too expensive,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: but um I've received uh a framework which we can do this. I mean did
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: you have this this Excel sheet?
Debra Sutton: No.
Melissa Long: No.
Lee Allen: No okay,
Magdalene Warbritton: No.
Lee Allen: this is these are the the the latest prices of our production uh uh production unit for several components, so we can uh see whether the the price is is within the twelve Euro
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: uh fifty cents
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: uh. So maybe we can start with this, uh, calling this one.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. Yep. So it's the pink.
Lee Allen: Th th this is the first design.
Magdalene Warbritton: And the other one's green.
Lee Allen: Yes.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay, so look and feel? Where um one is I've broken the pen again.
Lee Allen: Uh there is another
Magdalene Warbritton: S
Lee Allen: pen.
Magdalene Warbritton: yeah. Get that one. Um w one's bad and seven's the best. Sorry, one's true and seven's false. One's the best.
Lee Allen: Okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: So on a scale of
Lee Allen: 'Kay.
Magdalene Warbritton: one to seven?
Lee Allen: Okay. So. Look and feel. Well you already feel that uh pretty much I think.
Lee Allen: In i in my opinion
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: purely feel is
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm,
Lee Allen: is is very good,
Magdalene Warbritton: yeah.
Lee Allen: is very good in your hand, so
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: I I I would consider two or or may maybe even one
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: for feel. But that's just half, we should also consider look,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: and then i it looks quite conventional.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: Don't you agree?
Melissa Long: Mm yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: On the scale u it's between
Lee Allen: So maybe
Magdalene Warbritton: functional
Lee Allen: two.
Magdalene Warbritton: and
Lee Allen: Hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: fancy
Lee Allen: Hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: basically
Lee Allen: Ma ma ma
Magdalene Warbritton: we're looking
Lee Allen: ma
Magdalene Warbritton: at,
Lee Allen: maybe
Magdalene Warbritton: so
Lee Allen: say say five I It's my opinion, but I don't know what
Melissa Long: Well
Lee Allen: what
Melissa Long: I will give it maybe we have anyways the way we have designed it's like the surf
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: as you say
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: you know. It though the look is fine but uh still I will give four in that case
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: you know.
Debra Sutton: Four maybe.
Magdalene Warbritton: Four?
Melissa Long: Four
Lee Allen: Four,
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: yeah
Lee Allen: four. Now
Melissa Long: that
Lee Allen: we th th then we settle
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: on four.
Melissa Long: Yeah. I will gi yeah.
Debra Sutton: Uh.
Lee Allen: 'Kay. Can you maybe fix the other
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: If you press like this not like this then you
Magdalene Warbritton: No that's the
Melissa Long: No. C
Magdalene Warbritton: ink's
Melissa Long: can you
Magdalene Warbritton: dried.
Melissa Long: get the batteries? No no the battery has fallen down,
Magdalene Warbritton: Battery's
Melissa Long: that's i
Magdalene Warbritton: low, isn't it the ink? The b that's the that that one?
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: battery there.
Debra Sutton: But
Melissa Long: No no it's not that, it's how to close a battery.
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Melissa Long: Okay? Now it should be.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm. No I think it's lost a battery.
Lee Allen: Mm, try it, just try it.
Magdalene Warbritton: No it's
Lee Allen: Oh it will
Magdalene Warbritton: It
Lee Allen: not
Magdalene Warbritton: would
Lee Allen: ri
Magdalene Warbritton: still write but it wouldn't
Lee Allen: mm,
Magdalene Warbritton: pick it up with the sensors.
Lee Allen: mm.
Melissa Long: Is there another battery there? Oh yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: You got a second?
Debra Sutton: Try a
Magdalene Warbritton: Well we won't be able to tell.
Lee Allen: Yes, it it has a mm.
Debra Sutton: Perfect.
Magdalene Warbritton: Is that working? Did it come out? Good. Okay.
Lee Allen: Good. Good.
Magdalene Warbritton: Because we'll be able to see it still even if it wasn't working, it's just a normal whiteboard
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Magdalene Warbritton: marker
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: but it wouldn't be picked up on the the actual whiteboard.
Debra Sutton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Okay. So then then
Magdalene Warbritton: And the other one?
Debra Sutton: Wow.
Lee Allen: Ah.
Magdalene Warbritton: I think it's slightly better,
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: um, it's hard to tell from just
Lee Allen: I
Magdalene Warbritton: the
Lee Allen: I
Magdalene Warbritton: plasticine, but
Lee Allen: I When we want to include I I I'm doubting about this this component. It
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: it it it breaks in your
Debra Sutton: 'Kay maybe
Melissa Long: No
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: actually this is this is not going to protrude actually,
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: it
Debra Sutton: It's
Melissa Long: is
Debra Sutton: not
Melissa Long: jus
Debra Sutton: a button it's a led, it's
Melissa Long: It's a led
Debra Sutton: a
Melissa Long: actually which which 'll be covering in a curve
Debra Sutton: Ac actually yeah
Lee Allen: Mm,
Debra Sutton: it should be embedded.
Melissa Long: It's will
Lee Allen: yes
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: be embedded
Lee Allen: I see,
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: there
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: so
Lee Allen: mm
Melissa Long: it
Lee Allen: okay.
Melissa Long: won't be really you know
Debra Sutton: Oh you can
Melissa Long: protruding
Debra Sutton: push
Melissa Long: or
Debra Sutton: push
Melissa Long: something.
Debra Sutton: it again, you can push it.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah. The
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: other thing is, is the left hand one protruding? 'Cause if
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: people are left handed they want to use the other hand, maybe
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: it won't work so well.
Melissa Long: No you it it not protruding actually, it will go in better
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: into that
Lee Allen: Well r r
Magdalene Warbritton: I'd say two or three for that one, personally.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Probably more towards three than two.
Lee Allen: I think the look is better but the feel is is is worse. So so I would also say this is four.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: But w w do you what do you think?
Melissa Long: Uh it's fine I think. My just that um the feel is that um you right now you you don't see the feel because right uh for example if you press it quite inside now like this, now it's embedded
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: one.
Lee Allen: Mm. Mm. Yes.
Melissa Long: This is how embedded one
Lee Allen: Yes,
Melissa Long: will
Lee Allen: it basically is the same shape.
Melissa Long: Yeah. It's a bas basically the same thing actually.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: You
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: will be Except that
Debra Sutton: And
Melissa Long: in this
Debra Sutton: the
Melissa Long: c
Debra Sutton: L_C_D_ makes it better.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: And
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: you
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: might
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm,
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: have a slight
Magdalene Warbritton: okay.
Melissa Long: thing for to forward
Debra Sutton: So I will
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah
Melissa Long: and
Debra Sutton: say
Magdalene Warbritton: it's d it's
Debra Sutton: two.
Magdalene Warbritton: definitely more fancier than that one.
Melissa Long: Yeah,
Lee Allen: Yes,
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: okay.
Debra Sutton: I would say two,
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Debra Sutton: three.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: So, consensus? Two or three?
Lee Allen: Two? Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Two?
Debra Sutton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Two's good yes.
Melissa Long: looking
Magdalene Warbritton: Um,
Melissa Long: like
Magdalene Warbritton: 'kay. Innovation. The first one, not
Debra Sutton: Basically
Magdalene Warbritton: really muc
Debra Sutton: there is no innovation in the first one
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: compared to what exists in the market,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: right?
Melissa Long: No but
Magdalene Warbritton: Do we
Melissa Long: except for the design of the surf.
Debra Sutton: Yeah. The
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: surf uh design.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: What
Melissa Long: You should be
Magdalene Warbritton: What
Melissa Long: rea
Magdalene Warbritton: features are we actually including? Are we including like a location kind of thing like trying to find it?
Melissa Long: Uh no I think it's
Magdalene Warbritton: There's
Melissa Long: more
Magdalene Warbritton: nothing
Melissa Long: of the
Magdalene Warbritton: like
Melissa Long: feel.
Magdalene Warbritton: that? But th all, it's just
Melissa Long: Yeah,
Magdalene Warbritton: a straight-out
Melissa Long: yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: remote control.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: The only innova innovation is the shape.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: Say about that.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: S so that
Magdalene Warbritton: So there's no this uh look and feel thing, though that's not a technological
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: innovation.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: You're right.
Magdalene Warbritton: So I'd be up for seven for
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: innovation.
Debra Sutton: And the And the second one is really uh state of the art,
Melissa Long: Yep.
Debra Sutton: uh in terms of innovation.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: And um with many more functionalities, and can open and close the
Melissa Long: Yeah, it
Debra Sutton: the bottom
Melissa Long: gives
Debra Sutton: part.
Melissa Long: it
Lee Allen: Yes. A and the L_C_D_ screen is
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: That's that's that's well it's quite
Debra Sutton: And all
Lee Allen: innovative.
Debra Sutton: the scrolling uh buttons and menu and pro programmable device behind this.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Uh could put it at one or two I would say.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: Personally.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: Yep.
Lee Allen: Mm. Mm. Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: So what is it, what are the innovations with this? Got the L_C_D_
Debra Sutton: Uh
Magdalene Warbritton: screen.
Debra Sutton: Yeah automatic speech recognition.
Magdalene Warbritton: Is that in this one though? Is this 'cause this is the
Melissa Long: No,
Magdalene Warbritton: Th th there
Melissa Long: we
Magdalene Warbritton: were
Melissa Long: ha
Magdalene Warbritton: different options we discussed then, we discussed the one that was in budget and the one that was out of budget.
Lee Allen: We just diske discuss it as you designed it and then we
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: will will
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: try
Magdalene Warbritton: So
Lee Allen: to
Magdalene Warbritton: the cost
Debra Sutton: So
Magdalene Warbritton: for these
Lee Allen: get
Magdalene Warbritton: were
Lee Allen: it in the budget.
Magdalene Warbritton: what was the cost for the first one? Eight Euros?
Lee Allen: Eight.
Debra Sutton: Eight. Well actually we have yeah to check again yeah.
Melissa Long: Yeah, eight Euros yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: And this one was
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: Sixteen.
Magdalene Warbritton: sixteen
Melissa Long: Sixteen
Magdalene Warbritton: Euros.
Melissa Long: Euros.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. So. Innovation for this one is two? One?
Melissa Long: It's a two, I would say two.
Magdalene Warbritton: Two?
Debra Sutton: W
Lee Allen: Two.
Debra Sutton: W un to be one what would do we nee actually, yeah, I don't see
Lee Allen: Why
Debra Sutton: okay,
Lee Allen: it is
Debra Sutton: one
Lee Allen: one.
Debra Sutton: would would be without buttons,
Lee Allen: A man w w
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Well
Lee Allen: Yes.
Magdalene Warbritton: the
Debra Sutton: Bu
Magdalene Warbritton: speech recognition is a very good innovation I believe
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: it, so
Debra Sutton: So maybe we can put
Lee Allen: This
Debra Sutton: one.
Lee Allen: this is it w with the speech recognition?
Debra Sutton: It's using speech recognition,
Melissa Long: Okay yeah.
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Lee Allen: Well. Gi given that
Magdalene Warbritton: Give
Lee Allen: that
Magdalene Warbritton: it
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Lee Allen: it
Magdalene Warbritton: a one?
Lee Allen: works,
Debra Sutton: one, yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: then it's I think one.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. Ease of use?
Melissa Long: Uh
Debra Sutton: So the first one is really standard, so
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: everybody i including
Melissa Long: He is used
Debra Sutton: our
Melissa Long: to
Debra Sutton: grandmothers
Melissa Long: it act
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: can use it, right?
Melissa Long: They are used to it
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Melissa Long: actually.
Magdalene Warbritton: So that's maybe a a two for ease of use.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: Here there may
Debra Sutton: Um, the other one is quite easy, tho though.
Melissa Long: Uh, though it has more functionality I think it shouldn't be for the user
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: to learn it actually.
Lee Allen: Hmm.
Melissa Long: It shouldn't
Magdalene Warbritton: So maybe
Melissa Long: be diffi
Magdalene Warbritton: a three or a four.
Melissa Long: Uh yeah, actually in fact I think it will be
Debra Sutton: One
Melissa Long: Yeah
Debra Sutton: Magdalene Warbritton um we hope maybe sometimes people get uh scared with the number of buttons.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Yeah but
Debra Sutton: And
Melissa Long: y
Debra Sutton: there is a like I would say three. Or maybe four.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: Well
Magdalene Warbritton: Consensus?
Melissa Long: we have reduced the keys
Magdalene Warbritton: Three or
Melissa Long: actually
Magdalene Warbritton: four?
Melissa Long: you see.
Lee Allen: Three, I would.
Melissa Long: Three
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Melissa Long: is fine
Magdalene Warbritton: Three?
Lee Allen: Three.
Debra Sutton: yeah
Melissa Long: with
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: Magdalene Warbritton.
Debra Sutton: because it's n uh it's not like a big one with uh one hundred buttons or
Melissa Long: Yeah it's
Debra Sutton: so,
Melissa Long: a actually
Lee Allen: No.
Melissa Long: the user has to put some effort to do use that actually,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: it's not so easy,
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Melissa Long: like this one the normal.
Lee Allen: Yes but then when when he is used to it, i i it is quite easy.
Melissa Long: Is quite easy yeah.
Lee Allen: So
Melissa Long: Initially
Lee Allen: so I think
Melissa Long: there
Lee Allen: th
Melissa Long: there
Lee Allen: three
Melissa Long: is
Lee Allen: is
Melissa Long: a lot of
Lee Allen: good.
Melissa Long: effort,
Lee Allen: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: Good. What's the
Magdalene Warbritton: So
Lee Allen: next?
Magdalene Warbritton: three's uh how well it goes to the target demographic.
Melissa Long: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: So
Lee Allen: So
Magdalene Warbritton: we're d we're still thinking twenty to forty year olds?
Lee Allen: Twe twenty to forty,
Magdalene Warbritton: That's
Lee Allen: yes that's
Debra Sutton: This one would be uh for grandmothers.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Oh no, this would I I would I
Debra Sutton: No.
Melissa Long: would give this model to the old people actually.
Debra Sutton: Yeah, grandmothers, yeah.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: So sh
Melissa Long: And
Magdalene Warbritton: completely changed our demographic there, it's not part of the the funky young thing.
Lee Allen: Well exce except
Debra Sutton: Yeah that's
Lee Allen: for
Debra Sutton: true.
Lee Allen: the surfing shape. I mean that's
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: that's something
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: which which has an appeal on this group I think, but
Magdalene Warbritton: If it was the
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: very bottom price range or it was like between this and another one we did the same thing then I can imagine it being applying to the the demographic yeah. That's
Lee Allen: Mm w
Magdalene Warbritton: it's
Lee Allen: w w
Magdalene Warbritton: still
Lee Allen: we after
Magdalene Warbritton: Ye
Lee Allen: this we can can consider uh for instance, making this more attractive to
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: to the demographic
Magdalene Warbritton: 'Cause we have got room, we've got some budget there to
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: add a few things to it, that's right.
Lee Allen: But as it is now, I w would say mm, six, something.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Oh yeah,
Lee Allen: Do you
Magdalene Warbritton: And
Lee Allen: agree?
Melissa Long: I Well I
Debra Sutton: Yeah
Melissa Long: think
Debra Sutton: it was written that it really so important, the um the the look and uh taking care of its it targets, the right range of people, right?
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Uh yeah but but if you sell it in the market it's going to be cheap, actually.
Debra Sutton: Yeah. But
Magdalene Warbritton: But it's
Debra Sutton: w
Melissa Long: So
Magdalene Warbritton: going to be cheap whatever though, it was set with i we've
Melissa Long: And
Magdalene Warbritton: got
Melissa Long: people
Magdalene Warbritton: a set price.
Melissa Long: can still decide to use the cheaper one
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: instead of a
Debra Sutton: But for us it's yeah we have a constraint that we need to sell at twenty five
Lee Allen: Mm,
Debra Sutton: Euros.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: yeah,
Magdalene Warbritton: There's
Lee Allen: indeed.
Magdalene Warbritton: nothing that
Lee Allen: Th
Magdalene Warbritton: would
Lee Allen: t
Magdalene Warbritton: make Magdalene Warbritton
Lee Allen: t
Magdalene Warbritton: spend an extra k few Euros on that
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: one rather
Lee Allen: Ju
Magdalene Warbritton: than another
Lee Allen: just
Magdalene Warbritton: one.
Lee Allen: think, twenty five Euros, I mean
Melissa Long: Okay.
Lee Allen: it's not going to be cheaper.
Melissa Long: Okay. So
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: in that case well it's fine then. We can
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm. Okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: Um and the demokraphi demographic of the second one?
Melissa Long: And the demographics
Magdalene Warbritton: It's got
Melissa Long: of
Magdalene Warbritton: the got the the toys in it, it's got the L_C_D_
Lee Allen: Yeah tha tha
Magdalene Warbritton: screen
Lee Allen: tha tha tha
Magdalene Warbritton: and
Lee Allen: that's I think it's better, because of
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: the L_C_D_ screen which is really an appeal on the on the on the
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: on the and on the
Debra Sutton: Yeah. And if you want to target yeah if we we wish to to sell four millions of this, I think for this audience we need absolutely the L_C_D_ screen.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: Mm. So, the L_C_D_ screen uh attracts,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: yes. Because
Magdalene Warbritton: I think especially
Lee Allen: it
Magdalene Warbritton: if we're gonna n have an L_C_D_ screen on a low range product then that's good.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Mm, ma maybe that's something
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: to consider, yes,
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: so. Wh what what
Magdalene Warbritton: I'd probably go with three again for that one.
Melissa Long: Yeah I think it's uh
Debra Sutton: Or
Melissa Long: it
Debra Sutton: even
Melissa Long: has more market actually.
Debra Sutton: Even one and two.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Y yeah,
Lee Allen: No s
Melissa Long: you know
Debra Sutton: Or two.
Lee Allen: say
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: t
Melissa Long: two.
Lee Allen: two.
Magdalene Warbritton: So, two,
Lee Allen: Two?
Magdalene Warbritton: yeah?
Debra Sutton: Yeah. Two yeah.
Melissa Long: Yeah two yeah. Because tomorrow this will be more appealing because you can add lot of sophistication on that.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Because then you you have it uh d you
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: have lot of things which you can include
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Melissa Long: for the people to
Magdalene Warbritton: And especially I guess 'cause this has the speech recognition as well, and that makes it more appealing, it's more of a a new fun toy.
Melissa Long: We have to practically test it. The field
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: test will tell you
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: how
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Melissa Long: good.
Lee Allen: Okay, the final point,
Magdalene Warbritton: And
Melissa Long: The trends.
Lee Allen: trends.
Magdalene Warbritton: following the trends. So the trends were the fruit and vegetables and the spongy feel.
Lee Allen: Mm. Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: So as it is, not really doing either of them.
Lee Allen: I think
Debra Sutton: Spongy, uh, that means that it goes in in the water.
Melissa Long: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Well, the spongy could be part of the the feel of the buttons as well, I know some have you tried the mobile phones that have got the kinda spongy buttons and not not exactly spongy but
Debra Sutton: Uh
Magdalene Warbritton: I'm thinking
Debra Sutton: okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: one of the Nokias that's got like you ca it hasn't got individual buttons it's got
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: just a
Melissa Long: Yeah
Magdalene Warbritton: one
Melissa Long: I
Magdalene Warbritton: bit
Melissa Long: know.
Magdalene Warbritton: on it and so you can that feels kinda spongy.
Debra Sutton: But this one includes this feature, right? Spongy buttons.
Melissa Long: Yeah. We
Magdalene Warbritton: So
Melissa Long: we
Magdalene Warbritton: it's sort
Melissa Long: we
Magdalene Warbritton: of,
Melissa Long: we
Magdalene Warbritton: yeah.
Melissa Long: we yeah, it's the way they are going
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: to be,
Debra Sutton: So
Melissa Long: actually.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Uh the maybe in the colour we can make it uh fruit and and veggie.
Magdalene Warbritton: But that's if you're using the covers.
Lee Allen: And the then
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: we can
Magdalene Warbritton: Or
Lee Allen: al
Magdalene Warbritton: is it just
Lee Allen: yes.
Magdalene Warbritton: one
Lee Allen: We can we can consider uh uh is it possible do you think, to to make a cover for s such a phone? I mean
Magdalene Warbritton: Well they make it for mobiles, it can't be that much
Melissa Long: But why
Magdalene Warbritton: more
Melissa Long: do
Magdalene Warbritton: complicated.
Melissa Long: you want to cover that actually? In that uh w in
Lee Allen: Well
Melissa Long: the mod
Lee Allen: just with the with the flexible plastic uh
Magdalene Warbritton: So you got the option of having different colours or different
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: textures.
Debra Sutton: This is possible.
Lee Allen: I
Melissa Long: Uh
Lee Allen: th I th I think
Melissa Long: uh y are you sure? Yeah I think yeah it should be possible like what we do with the mobile
Lee Allen: O o
Melissa Long: phone,
Lee Allen: or
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: just two things which can be put on each other.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Yeah exactly like Nokia phones.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: Yes,
Melissa Long: Yep.
Lee Allen: exactly like it. Uh, so Maybe we can but we have to decide it, we can put the the the fancy f look of vegetables for instance,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: to to these covers and s now try to invest in the in in the features.
Magdalene Warbritton: I think the if we do the cover that's really going with the company's philosophy of having the fashion in in electronics, it
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: lets people have the latest fashion even next year when fruit and vegetables might be out, you'll still be able to put a new cover on
Lee Allen: Mm
Magdalene Warbritton: it and then
Lee Allen: mm
Magdalene Warbritton: it'll
Lee Allen: mm
Magdalene Warbritton: still
Lee Allen: mm
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: be in fashion.
Debra Sutton: 'Cause sometimes look at this computer, th this laptop, it's all black,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: and uh it's quite conventional, and sometimes people don't like too much flashy colours like
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: this one presented here.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: So maybe we could do like in the range the set of
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: what we propose a black one,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: very
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: standard one,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Debra Sutton: that meets the the requirements of th such people that want really standard
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: uh things.
Lee Allen: Mm. Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: And then you have the option of having the different colours,
Lee Allen: Yes.
Magdalene Warbritton: different
Lee Allen: So
Magdalene Warbritton: covers.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: so so that that would make the trends equal, so we we we really have
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: don't
Magdalene Warbritton: There's
Lee Allen: have,
Magdalene Warbritton: n yeah. 'Cause
Lee Allen: I
Magdalene Warbritton: that's
Lee Allen: mean
Magdalene Warbritton: the that's the feature that could be included in either of them.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: Although it is more with the spongy buttons on the um
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Lee Allen: Yes,
Magdalene Warbritton: on
Debra Sutton: so
Magdalene Warbritton: the other
Lee Allen: indeed.
Debra Sutton: a
Magdalene Warbritton: one.
Debra Sutton: a point better for the
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. So.
Debra Sutton: for the number two.
Magdalene Warbritton: Two and three, or one and two?
Lee Allen: Yes.
Melissa Long: Yeah, it's
Lee Allen: Say, say one and two. One
Melissa Long: one.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: and two.
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Lee Allen: So le le let's see. So d this
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: one has spongy but buttons?
Melissa Long: Yeah, it
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Melissa Long: says
Debra Sutton: the blue
Melissa Long: a
Debra Sutton: one uh spongy.
Lee Allen: Mm, I see, yes okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay so the average
Lee Allen: Good.
Magdalene Warbritton: of that is three six nine divided by five, so
Lee Allen: Just add
Magdalene Warbritton: five
Lee Allen: it.
Debra Sutton: Nine.
Lee Allen: You know.
Melissa Long: One
Magdalene Warbritton: mm
Melissa Long: point
Lee Allen: Three,
Melissa Long: six,
Lee Allen: six,
Melissa Long: one
Magdalene Warbritton: nine
Melissa Long: point
Magdalene Warbritton: by five,
Lee Allen: seven.
Magdalene Warbritton: one point s eight?
Melissa Long: One point eight yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: This one, eleven thirteen nineteen twenty one,
Melissa Long: Four point
Magdalene Warbritton: divided by five is four point two yep.
Melissa Long: Uh four point two.
Debra Sutton: Very good.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. But we still got a very different price for those two so they're
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: not really comparable yet anyway.
Lee Allen: We we must
Debra Sutton: Yeah, it's right,
Lee Allen: try to
Debra Sutton: yeah
Lee Allen: get them
Debra Sutton: that's
Lee Allen: closer.
Debra Sutton: right.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Both
Melissa Long: Wow.
Lee Allen: in i i or we just have to choose. And adapt. Because,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: when we choose for this one we have to we have to make it more attractive
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: and w when we to d for this one we have to make it more cheap.
Magdalene Warbritton: Well it's easier to just make that one cheaper by just taking the speech recognition out. That'll basically take us down
Lee Allen: Yes,
Magdalene Warbritton: to
Lee Allen: well
Magdalene Warbritton: the budget.
Lee Allen: But I'm now did y did you work with the same prices that I have here?
Debra Sutton: So I I give yeah I just give a call with the manufacturer uh and uh I explained them and they told Magdalene Warbritton
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: this could be possible for sixteen Fr Euros. Uh unfortunately we didn't see this chip,
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: uh
Melissa Long: Yep.
Debra Sutton: Matthew,
Lee Allen: Mm,
Debra Sutton: so maybe
Lee Allen: tha
Debra Sutton: we have to recap with this one.
Melissa Long: Maybe we ought to reconsider everything with this, yeah.
Lee Allen: Well yes, well uh re reconsider it. So let's let's try to to model this this
Melissa Long: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: phone in this sheet, uh what kind of energy source uh I I we didn't speak about that. It's a it's a normal battery, or
Melissa Long: Yeah, it migh It it'll need uh more than a conventional one, it won't be uh just maybe you might use a A_A_ battery actually. What do you say, Mael?
Debra Sutton: For this one it's a normal battery.
Lee Allen: Yes. Just so one battery. 'Kay. Electronics. given speech recognition I think w you should go for the less fancy chip.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: Uh sample speaker,
Lee Allen: Yeah,
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Lee Allen: yes, or sample sensor, yes.
Debra Sutton: Sample, yeah, this one.
Lee Allen: Yes, this one. Okay. Case? Um,
Debra Sutton: So
Melissa Long: Curved. Double curved yeah right. It's uh
Lee Allen: I see I Double
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: curve.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah, it's gonna be more than just the biggest case, definitely.
Debra Sutton: So
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: which one are we talking to?
Melissa Long: Are you talking about this or
Debra Sutton: Well
Melissa Long: that?
Magdalene Warbritton: Either
Lee Allen: Oh
Magdalene Warbritton: of them.
Lee Allen: yes, we are talking about,
Melissa Long: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: but they have the same shape, but,
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: actually
Magdalene Warbritton: They're both
Lee Allen: bu
Magdalene Warbritton: going to be not basic cases.
Lee Allen: So th th this would be double curves?
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: 'Kay. Uh, plastic would
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: be the
Magdalene Warbritton: The basic one,
Lee Allen: material.
Magdalene Warbritton: yep.
Debra Sutton: Is it zero Franc?
Melissa Long: A special colour?
Lee Allen: Uh special colour, now we leave it to the covers.
Melissa Long: Uh
Magdalene Warbritton: So now we're either going
Lee Allen: Push.
Magdalene Warbritton: button or L_C_D_s, L_C_D_ display.
Lee Allen: Mm, yes, but
Debra Sutton: L_C_D_ is. It's okay. Just say L_C_D_.
Magdalene Warbritton: Is that price per unit, or for the whole
Lee Allen: Yeah
Melissa Long: Ah
Lee Allen: th
Magdalene Warbritton: thing?
Melissa Long: good.
Lee Allen: now this is per per unit,
Magdalene Warbritton: So
Lee Allen: this
Magdalene Warbritton: it
Lee Allen: number
Magdalene Warbritton: would
Lee Allen: of
Magdalene Warbritton: need
Lee Allen: components.
Magdalene Warbritton: twelve
Melissa Long: Yeah,
Magdalene Warbritton: buttons.
Melissa Long: we might need a scroll wheel, right, for that?
Debra Sutton: No but for this one it's twelve
Melissa Long: No,
Debra Sutton: Euro.
Melissa Long: for that one also.
Debra Sutton: There are twelve?
Lee Allen: So,
Melissa Long: Yeah that's a scroll.
Lee Allen: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, t Yes. Twelve I believe. So this comes to eighteen.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm. And that's without any special button supplements.
Melissa Long: Yeah, one scroll wheel you might need.
Lee Allen: So
Magdalene Warbritton: So we'd have a special colour, special form and special material on all of them. They're not just
Melissa Long: Uh
Magdalene Warbritton: standard buttons.
Lee Allen: So I think but th do you agree
Debra Sutton: Wait a
Lee Allen: th
Debra Sutton: minute,
Lee Allen: that
Debra Sutton: it's
Lee Allen: thi
Debra Sutton: not it's not double curved, it's single curved, right? Because it's there is no like.
Lee Allen: Yes
Magdalene Warbritton: But
Lee Allen: I
Magdalene Warbritton: I thought it would be curved on two it's like it's curved on the sides and curved on the top and bottom
Lee Allen: Yes
Magdalene Warbritton: as
Lee Allen: I'm
Magdalene Warbritton: well,
Lee Allen: I'm
Magdalene Warbritton: that's
Lee Allen: no
Magdalene Warbritton: what
Lee Allen: I'm
Magdalene Warbritton: I thought.
Lee Allen: no I'm not sh sure.
Debra Sutton: Well it's
Lee Allen: Yes I kno undes I understand
Debra Sutton: you know
Lee Allen: what you mean,
Debra Sutton: this
Lee Allen: yes.
Debra Sutton: curve like this so, it's w there is only is is is there is nothing like y you know in the other stuff
Magdalene Warbritton: You talking about
Debra Sutton: there
Magdalene Warbritton: concave
Debra Sutton: are
Lee Allen: Uh-huh.
Debra Sutton: yeah concave.
Magdalene Warbritton: curves?
Debra Sutton: So I
Lee Allen: Both.
Debra Sutton: think we can put um
Magdalene Warbritton: You think a single curved?
Debra Sutton: the single curved in the sixteen. That makes uh seventeen. And what are just The bt buttons, we have twelve buttons, are you sure? Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: Yes. Uh
Magdalene Warbritton: We have more, we've got those the scroll
Debra Sutton: So
Magdalene Warbritton: wheel on the side
Debra Sutton: I had a
Magdalene Warbritton: and
Debra Sutton: bad uh
Magdalene Warbritton: yeah
Melissa Long: Bad estimate,
Lee Allen: W d
Melissa Long: right?
Magdalene Warbritton: The sc
Debra Sutton: bad estimation.
Lee Allen: we have we haven't talk about a, but that's no a is very exp inexpensive
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: I believe but it is not in the list.
Magdalene Warbritton: We've got a scroll wheel for the volume don't we, or is it some other thing that's not on there.
Lee Allen: W ho h is this a scroll wheel or is this a a a sort
Debra Sutton: No no
Lee Allen: of
Debra Sutton: no.
Lee Allen: button which can be pressed on two sides uh so for higher and lower?
Magdalene Warbritton: 'Kay we've only got five minutes left guys so we need to wrap it up pretty fast.
Debra Sutton: Yes, a kind of scroll wheel.
Magdalene Warbritton: So this is even more than the um
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: than the cost you gave, the sixteen Euros.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: Okay, so based on that, yeah, um where is the es okay sample speaker
Melissa Long: That is the sample sensor and sample speaker.
Lee Allen: So um
Debra Sutton: But still, yeah
Melissa Long: We just
Debra Sutton: it
Melissa Long: need that actually.
Lee Allen: We're
Melissa Long: We need one.
Lee Allen: We We could go for the for the for the for the for a simple chip, but then we can't have the the speech recognition, yes? Yes?
Debra Sutton: No we cannot, yeah.
Lee Allen: So so
Debra Sutton: So
Melissa Long: S
Lee Allen: w when we w a
Debra Sutton: But the
Lee Allen: this
Debra Sutton: um
Lee Allen: would this would be cutting the speech recognition.
Debra Sutton: Yeah but if you have the near the L_C_D_ you can um choose select between um you know like uni universal between audio, T_V_ and V_C_R_, and this needs a needs a advanced chip.
Lee Allen: Transti
Debra Sutton: Right, Matthew?
Melissa Long: Oh I i
Debra Sutton: Or
Melissa Long: it
Debra Sutton: regular chip?
Melissa Long: I think it's going
Debra Sutton: I think
Melissa Long: to be y
Debra Sutton: yeah regular,
Melissa Long: y yeah
Debra Sutton: today
Melissa Long: it's th
Debra Sutton: we you can do that
Lee Allen: Say
Debra Sutton: with
Melissa Long: with
Debra Sutton: regular
Melissa Long: the regular
Debra Sutton: chip.
Melissa Long: chip,
Lee Allen: say
Melissa Long: yeah.
Lee Allen: it's regular,
Debra Sutton: Yeah. Okay.
Lee Allen: regular chip,
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Lee Allen: and we still
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: on fifteen, so
Debra Sutton: So. And what about the number of buttons buttons uh
Lee Allen: Yes but that maybe
Debra Sutton: my
Lee Allen: Well we can just say
Debra Sutton: Matthew?
Melissa Long: Uh
Lee Allen: one.
Debra Sutton: When you look at this w, this u uh item,
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Ca l we are just
Debra Sutton: But
Lee Allen: when we just want to uh to cut the number of buttons we have to make seven to to fit in in twelve twelve fifty. So is it possible?
Magdalene Warbritton: But that's seven basic buttons right, seven buttons without any adds-on, without special colours or form or material.
Melissa Long: That'll
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: be then we have uh have to ask the user to press it several
Debra Sutton: You
Melissa Long: times.
Debra Sutton: cannot make a phone to your boss saying twelve fifty is really
Lee Allen: No no, he
Debra Sutton: really
Lee Allen: he
Debra Sutton: low,
Magdalene Warbritton: Well
Lee Allen: he
Debra Sutton: no?
Lee Allen: I I
Magdalene Warbritton: So the L_C_D_ display is is three Francs, sorry three Euros,
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: by itself.
Debra Sutton: And uh we don't want to to change that right? We
Melissa Long: Uh
Debra Sutton: we really want a L_C_D_ other
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm.
Debra Sutton: otherwise we w wouldn not get the market.
Lee Allen: Otherwise y
Debra Sutton: It's evident.
Lee Allen: you ha you have a s ve very normal uh thing like this.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm. So
Debra Sutton: And I
Magdalene Warbritton: twelve
Debra Sutton: dunno
Magdalene Warbritton: Euro fifty, we got two off of the battery, we can't do anything about that, so ten fifty, if we want an L_C_D_ dispra display, that's seven fifty um, so we've got seven fifty to use for the case and for the buttons.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: And the chip. Sorry the chip's up there already.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Magdalene Warbritton: So we're gonna have to scale this down to get within budget, there's no doubt about that.
Lee Allen: A
Debra Sutton: So wha what what each of us think about the because it's measure point the L_C_D_, um Do you think it's important?
Melissa Long: Or we could even replace them by buttons actually.
Debra Sutton: Because sometimes whe when you watch the T_V_ in fact, you have a big display and maybe you don't need one more in your hands? I dunno, I'm just
Melissa Long: A actually
Lee Allen: Mm
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: it depends,
Debra Sutton: asking.
Melissa Long: it depends what kind of functionalities you want to add into it,
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Melissa Long: for example if you add two more functionalities then better you add two more buttons, or
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: and you'll have L_C_D_ display
Magdalene Warbritton: Yeah.
Melissa Long: which is that is going to bring the cost by
Magdalene Warbritton: I
Melissa Long: two
Magdalene Warbritton: think,
Melissa Long: two Euros at least.
Magdalene Warbritton: unless we can really drive these prices down we need to get rid of the L_C_D_ display.
Melissa Long: Okay so we can
Debra Sutton: Yeah,
Melissa Long: get
Debra Sutton: it's
Melissa Long: rid
Debra Sutton: true
Melissa Long: of it
Debra Sutton: yeah.
Melissa Long: and then add
Debra Sutton: But uh,
Melissa Long: a couple of buttons.
Debra Sutton: do we want that? On the market point of view, yeah. What do you think uh, L_C_D_ is a major feature,
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: or?
Lee Allen: I
Magdalene Warbritton: For the price, it's gonna be what we can afford, and it's looking like we can't afford the L_C_D_ display, there's no way we can get it in there.
Lee Allen: I think we have to come to a decision
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: now, just I I think we we what we just do i is vote about the uh the L_C_D_
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Lee Allen: uh display so
Debra Sutton: You assume, you want a democratic voyt vote, right?
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Lee Allen: Yes. Yes.
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Lee Allen: One man one vote. S so who thinks the the L_C_D_ disply display should be i should be in it?
Magdalene Warbritton: I th I'd like t it to be in but I can't see it happening. I can't
Lee Allen: Mm.
Magdalene Warbritton: see it fitting in.
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: I think but
Debra Sutton: We
Magdalene Warbritton: Bu y
Debra Sutton: need to
Magdalene Warbritton: you're
Debra Sutton: be.
Magdalene Warbritton: a power voter uh veto anyway as Project
Lee Allen: Mm-hmm,
Magdalene Warbritton: Manager.
Lee Allen: I know,
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: but
Melissa Long: Yeah but the only thing is that what is the multiple functionalities you want to include with that.
Magdalene Warbritton: well we have to make a decision now, that's
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: it.
Lee Allen: Yes. So uh uh having an L_C_D_ s display is just uh uh have very very limited amount of buttons. Is that acceptable? Ca can I have can the functions be implement in an
Debra Sutton: Yes.
Lee Allen: You've you you agree.
Melissa Long: W I I
Lee Allen: So hav
Melissa Long: I just
Lee Allen: hav having seven buttons, instead of twelve.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Lee Allen: So that wou would be cutting cutting suh say about these buttons.
Debra Sutton: Because one yeah th show Magdalene Warbritton that uh actually we could in fact we move these three buttons and have three uh possibilities for each of the three here.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Debra Sutton: Here one, at the middle, and at the
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Debra Sutton: bottom.
Magdalene Warbritton: I think then we we're really losing ease of use.
Debra Sutton: Okay,
Melissa Long: That will create another problem. For the people to use it. It's not going to be easy.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Debra Sutton: Okay.
Lee Allen: Mm.
Melissa Long: Doing that.
Lee Allen: So um I I think we should we should cut the L_C_D_ screen. That that's that's my opinion.
Melissa Long: No, it's okay, you uh cut
Lee Allen: Just
Melissa Long: the L_C_D_ screen and introduce two more buttons.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. So L_C_D_'s out, is speech rec out now? We've
Debra Sutton: The speech recognition is out.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Uh where, L_C_
Debra Sutton: Because of the budget, yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Okay w we now we can just uh
Magdalene Warbritton: So are we basically back to the original one now, back to the first version? Which turns out to be on budget exactly, pretty much.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: With these new costings.
Debra Sutton: Yes.
Magdalene Warbritton: So just look at forget that one and look at that one now.
Lee Allen: Yes.
Debra Sutton: Yeah.
Lee Allen: Yes. I th I th I think w we just go for this one and that
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Lee Allen: that now twelve Euros is the
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: is is the price, okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay.
Lee Allen: My m my
Magdalene Warbritton: Well that's
Lee Allen: supervisor
Magdalene Warbritton: that's
Lee Allen: will be glad that it's fifty cents
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: cheaper than
Debra Sutton: Actually
Lee Allen: he
Debra Sutton: yeah,
Lee Allen: expected.
Debra Sutton: we we
Magdalene Warbritton: So.
Debra Sutton: we will not need the really uh expert designers
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm.
Melissa Long: Yeah.
Debra Sutton: um because the amount, yeah.
Magdalene Warbritton: Yep.
Lee Allen: Okay.
Magdalene Warbritton: So w we can go back and l talk to the suppliers maybe and see if we can drive the prices down to add a few more things in but that's all we can do with the restrictions we have at the moment.
Lee Allen: Okay, good. Then we the same. Thank you.
Melissa Long: Okay.
Lee Allen: That was it.
Magdalene Warbritton: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Long: That's it.
Debra Sutton: Thanks.
Melissa Long: Cool.
Magdalene Warbritton: Okay. | As the meeting opens Lee Allen tells the group that they must stay within the budget of twelve Euro and fifty cents or will have to redesign. After Matthew arrives the designers begin presenting the two prototypes, beginning with the basic conventional one which is shaped like a surfboard and costs 7 or 8 Euros to produce. It contains an on-off button, volume switch, up/down channel function, 10 digits, and two extra buttons for teletext and an additional function. The next control is futuristic because feels like a mobile phone, has 6 keys, and is smooth. It also has a power button, channel up/down, slow pause/slow stop, LCD screen, toggle switch that changes it from audio to video, and microphone. It would cost 16 Euros to produce, which is out of the budget. Magdalene Warbritton gives the product evaluation and they rate them on look and feel, innovation, ease of use, appeal to the correct demographic, and adherence to the company motto and fashion trends. They discuss the energy source, shape, chip type, LCD and speech recognition, and additional buttons. After choosing features their remote costs 12 Euros to produce. They close the meeting by thanking one another. | 0 | amisum | test |
Elissa Lopez: Uh 'kay. So
Val Lindeland: So so so.
George Walton: Put on your mic.
Jeanne Medina: So you forgot how this works again?
George Walton: Boss.
Elissa Lopez: Yep.
Jeanne Medina: Boss.
Val Lindeland: Maybe. Maybe maybe maybe.
Elissa Lopez: Okay so we're here to talk about the detailed design of the product 'kay?
George Walton: Yep.
Elissa Lopez: And here's the agenda for this meeting. Uh I'm just gonna open, say a few boring words to start with again, and start taking minutes afterwards. You guys are gonna give us a presentation of our wonder product that I can see some demonstrations of over there. Looks cool. And then we're gonna evaluate it. Then
Val Lindeland: Bra
Elissa Lopez: we're gonna talk about finance, and I've got a lovely Excel spreadsheet I knocked up in the last five minutes for this. And
Jeanne Medina: Hmm you knocked it up?
Elissa Lopez: uh yep. And we're gonna evaluate the product and close. Got forty minutes to do this in. We should be fine. Let's try and keep this one on schedule.
George Walton: Alright.
Elissa Lopez: So Your thing is in where
Jeanne Medina: Thi
Elissa Lopez: is it? Is
Jeanne Medina: third
George Walton: Three,
Elissa Lopez: it in
Jeanne Medina: third third.
George Walton: three.
Jeanne Medina: The end product thingy. Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: Who wants it?
George Walton: Pedro can have it. I like I'll help talk.
Jeanne Medina: Um yeah so what we ended up with. Production costs estimated by our manufacturing department and um the research department, which is us, is uh fifteen point eight Euros, someone forgot the units
George Walton: Unit price.
Jeanne Medina: there yeah, uh unit price unit production price cost thing. Um we implemented the basic functions, plus the locator, which was one of the marketing things, cradle, scroll wheel for uh the the channels, and uh we implemented the f the the way of putting the new and revolutionary zapping, your favourite channels functionality, in the scroll.
Elissa Lopez: Zapping your favourite channels, eh?
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
George Walton: Scrolling through your favourites list.
Elissa Lopez: Oh okay okay.
Jeanne Medina: Zapping you know zapping.
Elissa Lopez: Ah 'kay okay, that's
Jeanne Medina: Maybe
Elissa Lopez: favourites.
Jeanne Medina: it's just a Portuguese thing. And um yeah that was the result.
Elissa Lopez: Ah 'kay. I like the the the the logo on there as well.
George Walton: It's very prominent.
Elissa Lopez: It is very prominent. So this is the
George Walton: So here I'll give you the so this is the cradle unit, and this is the actual remote itself. Um so the scroll bar is or the scroll wheel is this this green little scrolly guy here, um and then the volume controls are here and here.
Elissa Lopez: Okay.
George Walton: got the keypad which is the numbers uh f from zero to nine and then ten. This is the power button. Uh we have our um we have the enter button and uh what was the other button here? This is the
Jeanne Medina: Start
George Walton: teletext.
Jeanne Medina: s the the start uh to to
George Walton: The
Jeanne Medina: to
George Walton: programme button,
Jeanne Medina: programme yeah.
George Walton: yeah the
Elissa Lopez: Ah,
George Walton: programme
Elissa Lopez: okay
George Walton: button.
Elissa Lopez: I see.
George Walton: So this bl this button will be used both for the favourites and for programming your uh the um the type of television you wanna use. So um the plastic is the white area of this of the model here, and the red area is like a rubber covering. So
Elissa Lopez: It's pretty
George Walton: you
Elissa Lopez: cool.
George Walton: can see that when it lays like this or like this and the buttons are all gonna be rubber, so it's pretty hard to actually damage it um
Elissa Lopez: Is that could that be easy to for the scroll wheel to be rotated if it lands on it?
George Walton: Yeah that might be a possible a mi uh possible problem, but
Jeanne Medina: Not
George Walton: if
Jeanne Medina: helping.
George Walton: you drop it yeah.
Elissa Lopez: Oh well I guess it depends on the stiffness a little of it.
George Walton: Yeah and it depends on if it's sliding, but I think it's pretty ergonomic. You can feel it.
Elissa Lopez: Mm. Feels good. I take it that this is gonna be slightly lighter in the
George Walton: Yeah
Elissa Lopez: final
George Walton: of course.
Elissa Lopez: design as well.
George Walton: Well this is clay.
Elissa Lopez: Yeah it's kinda cool. You have to reach a little
George Walton: Yeah the
Elissa Lopez: bit don't
George Walton: the power
Elissa Lopez: you.
George Walton: button is a bit of a reach, but I think we might scale down the final model a bit.
Elissa Lopez: Ah yeah
George Walton: These
Elissa Lopez: that wouldn't make sense.
George Walton: this is a bit larger than it would be, but
Elissa Lopez: It's cool. I'm impressed.
Jeanne Medina: Don't have no one to handle that.
Val Lindeland: Mm
Elissa Lopez: And hold it
Val Lindeland: that's
Elissa Lopez: so wh what's
Val Lindeland: oh
Elissa Lopez: the
Val Lindeland: that's
Elissa Lopez: marketing perspective?
Val Lindeland: oh I like it. I mean you guys gave Val Lindeland more than I was asking for, so I'm happy because we've got some really marketable features in this. Yeah I think it's good. Good good good job.
George Walton: Mm Pedro can demonstrate the
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
George Walton: the paging ability.
Jeanne Medina: So you ha you have like the the base station with um the little button for the where's my remote.
George Walton: Beep beep beep.
Val Lindeland: Uh pla
Jeanne Medina: The locator
Val Lindeland: I'm ha
Jeanne Medina: function.
Val Lindeland: It's
Elissa Lopez: Okay.
Val Lindeland: great. That's great. It's
George Walton: Um
Val Lindeland: a great feature.
Elissa Lopez: Mm it's impressing.
George Walton: beep beep beep
Elissa Lopez: So
George Walton: so
Elissa Lopez: let Val Lindeland get it, if I press this button
George Walton: beep beep beep
Elissa Lopez: I see. That's pretty
Jeanne Medina: Wicked
Elissa Lopez: cool.
Jeanne Medina: isn't
Elissa Lopez: Hang on.
George Walton: beep
Jeanne Medina: it?
George Walton: beep beep be shut up.
Val Lindeland: So you can take this ho take this home with you
George Walton: Beep
Val Lindeland: tonight and you can push that and he'll be across town
George Walton: beep beep okay.
Elissa Lopez: I plan to do that as well.
George Walton: Um no no no tha
Elissa Lopez: So
George Walton: that's
Elissa Lopez: the
George Walton: alri
Elissa Lopez: the two blue are are those for the the it to charge off of
George Walton: Exactly
Elissa Lopez: in?
George Walton: that's exactly
Elissa Lopez: Ah okay
George Walton: what those are
Elissa Lopez: okay.
George Walton: for. And um there's one other feature that we were debating, but we decided to go against it, is um you could beep beep beep we were thinking that it might be interesting to have a trigger button here because you have this
Elissa Lopez: Yeah
George Walton: finger it
Elissa Lopez: it's
George Walton: it's it kinda
Elissa Lopez: the
George Walton: feels
Elissa Lopez: right shape
George Walton: like
Elissa Lopez: isn't
George Walton: there
Elissa Lopez: it?
George Walton: should be something there, but we couldn't figure out what button is important enough to put there. And we we don't wanna accidentally be hitting the power button like that
Elissa Lopez: But maybe
George Walton: so
Elissa Lopez: if you had a trigger plus the scroll then
George Walton: Mm.
Elissa Lopez: that would get past the the problem of it landing and scrolling,
George Walton: Right.
Elissa Lopez: 'cause then it would need to be hit on both sides.
George Walton: So maybe in a final design phase we might tweak that a little bit, but
Elissa Lopez: Okay.
Val Lindeland: Uh, I
Elissa Lopez: But it's
Val Lindeland: can
Elissa Lopez: definitely
Val Lindeland: see that.
Elissa Lopez: got options for like different types of models and things as well based
George Walton: Mm-hmm.
Elissa Lopez: on that, hasn't it?
Val Lindeland: Yep I like. Good job.
Elissa Lopez: So is that the the final colour scheme as well or?
George Walton: Oh no this is
Val Lindeland: No no.
George Walton: just what we had to work with at the time.
Elissa Lopez: Okay.
George Walton: So we'll leave the colour scheme up to the marketing people.
Elissa Lopez: The hmm.
George Walton: Careful.
Elissa Lopez: It came off. The scroll wheels, a problem with them not being sort of
Val Lindeland: Well I mean
Elissa Lopez: I don't
Val Lindeland: of
Elissa Lopez: think
Val Lindeland: course,
Elissa Lopez: the user interface
Val Lindeland: I mean
Elissa Lopez: guy wants to touch it
Val Lindeland: My
Elissa Lopez: anymore.
Val Lindeland: my s my suggestion is we're gonna go go to the silvers and blacks like most of the televisions.
Elissa Lopez: Mm.
Val Lindeland: You know some blend of silvers and blacks.
George Walton: Beep beep beep.
Elissa Lopez: Okay enough of that. Well i it's cool guys. 'Kay so are we done with the this presentation?
George Walton: Yeah.
Jeanne Medina: Ja.
Elissa Lopez: Okay. Now now.
Val Lindeland: So you're not gonna find my uh my folder up there I gotta do mine up at the board.
Elissa Lopez: Have you? Okay.
Val Lindeland: Yeah yeah. So
Elissa Lopez: Can I not get your get at stuff from your shared folder now?
Val Lindeland: No it's not in there because I had the computer problem and I
Elissa Lopez: Oh I
Val Lindeland: I
Elissa Lopez: see
Val Lindeland: I
Elissa Lopez: I see.
Val Lindeland: cou I couldn't create it. I couldn't create it in the PowerPoint, and I think I've got this really strange cable. So what I had, basically going from the PowerPoint format, is that uh yeah yeah I like this a lot. Is this one of the tests is to see how we can adapt to s changing situations in the in the meeting room?
Jeanne Medina: Nah.
Val Lindeland: So what we had is we had the method. That's not how you spell method, is it?
George Walton: No way.
Val Lindeland: No A_. So this doesn't go so fast this way. And when I speak about method I speak about the marketing of the product huh.
Val Lindeland: And uh to Val Lindeland with this product we got uh we got basically three things to market. We've got the features, we have the uh characteristics, and we have the I I don't know what we would call the other part what we call you know the the the corp corporate Help Val Lindeland. The the corporation stands behind the product, okay. So the features I think we got the scroll, we've got the uh the locator, we've
Jeanne Medina: It
Val Lindeland: got
Jeanne Medina: fell
Val Lindeland: the durability,
Jeanne Medina: off.
Val Lindeland: we've got the dependability, we've got you know the
George Walton: Beep
Val Lindeland: features
George Walton: beep beep.
Val Lindeland: that make this a unique product. Um the characteristics I talk about, we have reliability, we have comfort, we have ergonomics, we have environmentally s sensitive. Uh and the corporation, we're talking about we're we're a new we're a new company. We're wanting to make a name for ourself. We're wanting you to uh find our product so we're gonna give you a good product at a fair price. One thing I would want to to see is uh is can we can we get a lifetime uh guarantee on this product, a normal use guarantee, which means that this product, for the for the life of of the life use, if it should have a technical problem, that we could re replace it at no cost? That was something I would be interested in. Um so yeah without uh going into great details, we have a we have a product, it has the features and the characteristics, and the background, I believe, to make it marketable I believe at a cost of of of thirty thirty five to to fifty Euros. We're gonna be competitive, and we're gonna we're gonna have a market niche. Um
Elissa Lopez: Do you
Val Lindeland: w
Elissa Lopez: would you a argue that that we're better going for the higher cost than bringing it down into twenty f five as we probably could, but lowering our profit margins?
Val Lindeland: That that would be uh that would be I think a decision best made by corporate um I I m for my evaluation, based on what our competition is, I th I think that that we can go after this and and and go after more of the uh exclusivity sense than the mass market sense.
Elissa Lopez: Mm-hmm. Mm 'kay.
Val Lindeland: But I'm sh I'm sure open to to market this in either direction. But you guys came up with a great product, and at that cost I think it uh there's nobody else that's putting this this combination of of ingredients together. The only limitations I see to this is that we're focused on television only. Uh that's the only that's the only drawback I see to this. But with all of these other features I think people c one thing I'm I'm hoping for is people are not gonna even notice. There's gonna be somebody going home and say oh sh this thing doesn't work for my D_V_D_ and my but I like these other things, so they keep it, they don't take it
Elissa Lopez: And
Val Lindeland: back.
Elissa Lopez: we're actually quite open to be able to expand the product for a later version with those features quite simply anyway, aren't we? Th there's no fundamentally different technology
Val Lindeland: Well one of
Elissa Lopez: to do
Val Lindeland: one
Elissa Lopez: that.
Val Lindeland: of the thoughts that I had is can can this unit be be produced in a way that makes it upgradable? You know
Elissa Lopez: Hmm.
Val Lindeland: uh like like a um a sim card in a in a um in a telephone. You know is there a card in th can we make a card and so after
Jeanne Medina: W we need we need we need s some more buttons if it would to work on some other stuff,
George Walton: Mm-hmm.
Jeanne Medina: but
Val Lindeland: Mm-hmm, but you follow what
Jeanne Medina: We
Val Lindeland: I'm s I'm
Jeanne Medina: we
Val Lindeland: s
Jeanne Medina: w yeah we could get another version of it that actually works.
Val Lindeland: Yeah 'cause
Jeanne Medina: But
Val Lindeland: if
Jeanne Medina: uh
Val Lindeland: if we can make this unit upgradable then we're yeah but then we talk about changing the warranty concept and everything, but that's that was just an idea I had. Uh to Val Lindeland
Elissa Lopez: Yeah,
Val Lindeland: the only
Elissa Lopez: the
Val Lindeland: additions
Elissa Lopez: plus there's the the risk of making it unusable as well, or making it less b because at the moment it's actually very straightforward to look at all the buttons, you know what they do, it's very
Val Lindeland: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: simple, and it just works.
Val Lindeland: Yep.
Elissa Lopez: Mm there's a risk of that.
Val Lindeland: But anyway that's uh
Elissa Lopez: Okay so we can talk about finance now. So I have a little spreadsheet for us where I I was wondering, you when you talked about the fifteen point eight Euros, I was wondering how you came up with that figure?
George Walton: Well, that was just just our technical team added up the um production costs of the individual units.
Elissa Lopez: Okay so I have bit of a spreadsheet here for this.
Jeanne Medina: Very
George Walton: Oh.
Jeanne Medina: co
Elissa Lopez: Now
Jeanne Medina: very colf
Elissa Lopez: I've
Jeanne Medina: colourful.
Elissa Lopez: made a f few assumptions here in that I'm assuming that our power adaptor
George Walton: Uh-huh.
Elissa Lopez: we can make for a cost of four Euros, equivalent to solar cells, which I think is probably fair considering that we have in-house manufacturing of power adaptors already.
George Walton: Uh-huh.
Elissa Lopez: Uh and I'm assuming that the locator beacon, the you know the
Val Lindeland: Mm-hmm.
George Walton: Yeah.
Jeanne Medina: beep beep beep.
Elissa Lopez: Can be made for it sounded different that time uh can be made
George Walton: Oh,
Elissa Lopez: for
George Walton: sorry.
Elissa Lopez: a similar price to uh an L_C_ display, uh an uh Uh do you think that's fair coming from a m the manufacturing?
George Walton: Yeah um I do think we that we we uh don't need the events chip on print, we only need the uh the regular chip on print, so
Elissa Lopez: Okay.
George Walton: there may have been a m miscalculation
Elissa Lopez: Yep.
George Walton: in there.
Elissa Lopez: Okay. So we're down to sixteen point
George Walton: And
Elissa Lopez: four,
George Walton: we
Elissa Lopez: yeah.
George Walton: and we have a single-curved uh
Elissa Lopez: Is that a single-curved rather than a double-curved?
George Walton: Uh I think that
Elissa Lopez: We're not entirely sure what single-curve
Val Lindeland: We've got a we've
Elissa Lopez: versus
Val Lindeland: got a curve
Elissa Lopez: double-cur
Val Lindeland: and a droop. I don't know whether that.
George Walton: It's single-curved,
Elissa Lopez: You think? Okay
George Walton: yeah.
Elissa Lopez: I'm convinced. But we save one Euro that way, yeah? So we come bring it down to Fifteen
George Walton: See it's a little
Elissa Lopez: point
George Walton: bit
Elissa Lopez: four.
George Walton: more than f single-curved. So yeah it's fifteen point eight, that's where we came up with it.
Elissa Lopez: Well hang on. Do don't speak so
George Walton: Okay.
Elissa Lopez: it's in here, in that w do we have any we have special form don't we?
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
George Walton: Yeah we do.
Elissa Lopez: So that's yeah.
George Walton: Ah.
Elissa Lopez: But
George Walton: What do
Elissa Lopez: the
George Walton: you know.
Elissa Lopez: the the we haven't talked about any special colour though uh I don't th
George Walton: Oh it's a that's
Elissa Lopez: think
George Walton: not
Elissa Lopez: we're
George Walton: very special, it's pretty
Elissa Lopez: O okay so we're Push-button,
George Walton: If
Jeanne Medina: We don't
Elissa Lopez: scroll wheel, we're basically
George Walton: th.
Elissa Lopez: we have uh th is this intended to be a button as well or just a scroll?
Jeanne Medina: It's a scroll.
George Walton: That's a scroll.
Elissa Lopez: Just a scroll? It's not one of the scrolls where, for example, with this one you could push it down to be a button?
George Walton: Uh no we just
Val Lindeland: Ooh.
George Walton: use it as a scroll.
Elissa Lopez: Okay then we have fifteen point eight Euros.
George Walton: It was a pretty accurate estimate I
Elissa Lopez: It
George Walton: would
Jeanne Medina: Yes.
Elissa Lopez: wasn't
George Walton: say.
Elissa Lopez: bad.
Jeanne Medina: We're wicked.
George Walton: Yeah.
Jeanne Medina: Awesome.
Elissa Lopez: Okay so we're on
George Walton: S
Elissa Lopez: to
George Walton: 's
Elissa Lopez: the
George Walton: kind of s frighteningly accurate.
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: We're on to the pat-on-the-back part of the presentation, where we have a look at the criterias th that Paul the criterion criteria that Paul has has given us, and we can use that to tell How's it going? Anyone got any
George Walton: What?
Elissa Lopez: thoughts? How how have we done today?
George Walton: I think we did pretty well.
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: I think we did pretty well too. That looks pretty spectacular.
Val Lindeland: No, I think we come up with a with a attractive marketable um product and and concept.
Elissa Lopez: Any other chang uh thoughts?
Elissa Lopez: Okay so th th what about um room for creativity?
Jeanne Medina: That
Elissa Lopez: Is
Jeanne Medina: was
Elissa Lopez: it
Jeanne Medina: mm-hmm
George Walton: Sh
Elissa Lopez: the.
George Walton: I think there was plenty of room.
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: I I think we we
George Walton: We got
Elissa Lopez: ended
George Walton: a couple
Elissa Lopez: up being
George Walton: innovative
Elissa Lopez: quite creative
George Walton: i
Elissa Lopez: there.
Val Lindeland: Yeah well
George Walton: Couple
Val Lindeland: we
George Walton: innovative ideas.
Val Lindeland: we we kinda broke we kinda at least adjusted every every criteria they gave us because we
Elissa Lopez: Mm.
Val Lindeland: d we still have the the teletext capability in this thing right,
Jeanne Medina: No.
George Walton: Mm-hmm.
Val Lindeland: we raised the price of it,
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
Val Lindeland: we've added two t new technology to it. So you know you know if this thing flies then we've we've adjusted or broken every every idea they gave us.
Elissa Lopez: Not
Jeanne Medina: Basically.
Elissa Lopez: every idea necessarily, it's still a remote control.
Val Lindeland: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Elissa Lopez: Uh no yeah but we did we did break with the specs a little bit I guess, but the uh
Val Lindeland: But I like I mean when I say we have we had I believe we have room for creativity 'cause w this is we did it.
Elissa Lopez: 'Kay leadership, what do we report back to the bosses? No th th I think they were r reasonably flexible with us over the whole changing the specs thing.
Jeanne Medina: It
George Walton: Yep.
Jeanne Medina: was more of a teamwork thing then really leadership based
Elissa Lopez: I agree.
Jeanne Medina: project was Teamwork.
Val Lindeland: Cohesive yeah.
Elissa Lopez: Synergy.
Val Lindeland: Yes synergistic yeah.
George Walton: There was a lot of synergy.
Elissa Lopez: Teamwork, yeah he is uh.
Val Lindeland: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: What did we think of the meeting room, I guess is an important thing here.
George Walton: These
Elissa Lopez: Mm.
George Walton: cables suck.
Elissa Lopez: Yeah,
Jeanne Medina: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: this falls off and
George Walton: Yep.
Elissa Lopez: uh
Jeanne Medina: And
Elissa Lopez: the
Jeanne Medina: that's
Elissa Lopez: white board worked really well without
George Walton: Yeah.
Elissa Lopez: any
Jeanne Medina: D you must
Elissa Lopez: pro
Jeanne Medina: have very long shirts. That's way far down lapel mic.
Elissa Lopez: Mm-mm, lapel. Wha
Jeanne Medina: Lapel lapel
George Walton: Lapel.
Elissa Lopez: okay,
Jeanne Medina: lapel.
Elissa Lopez: oh, alright.
Jeanne Medina: That's almost a crotch mi cr
Elissa Lopez: That's it's down, it's quite close.
Val Lindeland: You know you know what they're gonna
Elissa Lopez: Keep
Val Lindeland: have
Elissa Lopez: it,
Val Lindeland: on the recording
Elissa Lopez: keep it
Val Lindeland: in
Elissa Lopez: calm.
Val Lindeland: there from that microphone is your lunch digesting you know th
Jeanne Medina: Oh dear
Elissa Lopez: Oh dear.
Jeanne Medina: oh dear.
Elissa Lopez: No more pizza for Val Lindeland. So yeah the the pen came in alright and it's a little uncomfortable to use but I guess it works.
Jeanne Medina: 'Cause this is you were using it o upside down. Still that
George Walton: That's our boss.
Elissa Lopez: Nah, I'm I'm not convinced of that at all. I've been wor I've been wondering about that all day, but see these look like they're that looks the oth
Jeanne Medina: Use them
Elissa Lopez: that
Jeanne Medina: like
Elissa Lopez: looks
Jeanne Medina: that.
Elissa Lopez: like it would be that way around,
George Walton: Pedro's right.
Elissa Lopez: but it feels more comfortable, wh what
George Walton: Pedro's
Elissa Lopez: you call upside-down.
George Walton: right.
Elissa Lopez: I don't care. Uh okay so that data might be slightly invalid. What new ideas have we found?
George Walton: Oh
Val Lindeland: New ideas
George Walton: wel
Val Lindeland: f uh for the product or for the the the the environment or what
Elissa Lopez: Well
Val Lindeland: are we
Elissa Lopez: let's
Val Lindeland: ta
Elissa Lopez: do both then. Uh for the product?
George Walton: Well we had the favourites list, and the scroll bar, and we have the cradle, and the r uh remote
Val Lindeland: Oh.
George Walton: call feature.
Elissa Lopez: Yeah we came up with quite a bit.
Jeanne Medina: Bunch of new ideas.
Elissa Lopez: And for the meeting room, Has anyone got any more
Jeanne Medina: Yeah comfortable headsets would be nice.
Elissa Lopez: Yeah
Val Lindeland: Well
Elissa Lopez: less
Val Lindeland: I
Elissa Lopez: sore
Val Lindeland: I mean
Elissa Lopez: on
Jeanne Medina: Mm.
Elissa Lopez: the ears.
Val Lindeland: clearly remote control microphones would be the would be a nice solution to all these cables, but I'm sure that there's there's some justification for these things that I don't know about. And of course I did not have so much fun with my computer this afternoon. It's not been uh it's not been cooperating so well, but I don't think that's the that's avoidable.
Jeanne Medina: Coulda been worse.
Elissa Lopez: Okay so Are the costs within the budget?
Jeanne Medina: Mm
Val Lindeland: No.
Jeanne Medina: n
Elissa Lopez: Nope.
Jeanne Medina: no.
Elissa Lopez: Oh hang on it really that's something we that the costs were under twelve fifty Euros. No requirements are changed. We're still under twenty Euros to build, so we're good. And the costs within the budget? Not the original budget, but they are now. Is the project evaluated? Mm I think so yeah, then celebration
Jeanne Medina: Hooray.
Elissa Lopez: as it says.
Val Lindeland: Okay.
Jeanne Medina: Free coke provided at the cafeteria.
George Walton: All right.
Elissa Lopez: Oh I don't know how that got there. Uh anyway.
Jeanne Medina: Who wrote
Elissa Lopez: Thank
Jeanne Medina: that one?
Val Lindeland: So we need to
Elissa Lopez: Thanks
Val Lindeland: close
Elissa Lopez: guys.
Val Lindeland: this meeting, yeah bravo. Congratulations.
Jeanne Medina: Cool.
George Walton: Good job guys.
Val Lindeland: S I've got a lot of paperwork to catch up on so let's close this and come back
Elissa Lopez: Yeah, I've got a lot of paperwork
Val Lindeland: and 'kay.
Elissa Lopez: to catch up on too. Oh. | George Walton and Jeanne Medina presented the prototype to the group and displayed all of its components. They demonstrated how the locator function operates. They suggested that a trigger button should be included in a later designing phase to improve the feel of the product. Val Lindeland gave an evaluation of the product and felt that it satisfied his criteria. He suggested including a lifetime guarantee and expressed concern that the remote would only be used for televisions. Elissa Lopez discussed the final production cost with the group; after an analysis of all of the components the final cost was 15.8 Euros. Elissa Lopez then led a discussion about the group's experience on the project. The group felt that they worked well together and that they had room to be creative, but only after they changed many of the initial specifications. They also had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment. They were satisfied with the increased final cost and budget. | 0 | amisum | test |
Sara Hernandez: Now what.
Maxine Carol: 'Kay, hello everybody. Uh, I guess you all know what is it about, you all received the email, I guess. Uh, we are actually doing this meeting to start a new project which is about designing a remote control. So I'm going to be Maxine Carol of this uh project. And uh so I'm present myself. I'm Fabien Cardinaux and uh I I guess you can present yourself. So I dunno, you can starts.
Sara Hernandez: Okay, so my name is. You can call Gladys Evans Petre, or Peter if you like. I don't care.
Maxine Carol: Okay.
Gladys Evans: Uh my name's Bob
Maxine Carol: And
Gladys Evans: Mor.
Maxine Carol: you are? In the project?
Sara Hernandez: Uh,
Gladys Evans: Oh, sorry.
Sara Hernandez: in the project I'm supposed to be the technic.
Gladys Evans: 'Kay. So my name's Bob Morris. I'm Gladys Evans for this project.
Sara Hernandez: Bob,
Gladys Evans: Bob
Sara Hernandez: okay.
Gladys Evans: yeah.
Linda Miller: My name is Hamed Getabdar, uh I'm going to be Interface Designer in this project.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Maxine Carol: So, uh, so today we are doing a short meeting to present the project, so um We are gooding we are going to present the tool we are we are going to use during all this project. We are talking about the project plan, and we are going to to discuss about st our first ideas and so on, and, yeah. So we have around twenty five minutes to do this meeting. Um. So what is the goal of this project? Is to design a new remote control. So it should be, of course, new and original, and um it should be trendy, and user friendly. That mean it's a very challenging project, and uh uh. So w it's we will try to do our best, and hopefully come with something very new and that people want to buy. So, um So what's uh what are we going to do during this all this project? So it's more like we are going to do inv individual work all in o in o our specialities and we are going to meet each other quite often to discuss and to find a good way. Um.
Maxine Carol: Yeah and everything is will be like this. Um so now we are going to to get used t to to the tools we are going to use all during all this project. So we can try to use uh the whiteboard here. So
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Maxine Carol: uh. For example we can try to write what is our our favourite animal and write the f our favourite characteristics about it. Mm.
Maxine Carol: Uh. So uh
Maxine Carol: So I will ask you all to do the same.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Maxine Carol: Just to get used to the whiteboard.
Sara Hernandez: So probably I would try to try to draw the animal. Well sh should I draw the picture of the animal? I I th
Maxine Carol: Yeah,
Sara Hernandez: I
Maxine Carol: yeah,
Gladys Evans: Yeah
Maxine Carol: you
Sara Hernandez: think
Maxine Carol: can
Sara Hernandez: I
Gladys Evans: go
Sara Hernandez: should.
Maxine Carol: draw
Gladys Evans: ahead.
Maxine Carol: the picture, of course.
Sara Hernandez: Okay, so. Um. Okay, American, um. Um. use the bird. So I tried to sketch it out. I had to first uh write it down because I am not absolutely sure if I can draw it, but ah. Can you recognise it as a bird? Okay
Gladys Evans: Okay,
Sara Hernandez: it's your turn to
Gladys Evans: okay.
Gladys Evans: So I think my favourite animal would be a c a cat.
Maxine Carol: Oh.
Gladys Evans: That's its head. Um I probably like cats the most because they're cuddly and furry and uh playful. Okay.
Linda Miller: I dunno if I should go
Sara Hernandez: Oh it's
Linda Miller: with
Sara Hernandez: okay.
Gladys Evans: Thanks.
Linda Miller: this. If it is enough line. I'm sorry.
Gladys Evans: Maybe put it up Put it a Maybe put it on the desk or something.
Sara Hernandez: Yeah. I should get used to the tool, so.
Linda Miller: Okay.
Sara Hernandez: Oh just wait a little bit. C could we put it here, to make it as straight as possible? Ah probably not.
Linda Miller: They
Sara Hernandez: Okay,
Linda Miller: should be remote.
Gladys Evans: that's better.
Sara Hernandez: it it works like this.
Linda Miller: Okay, thanks.
Gladys Evans: Your lapel microphone's fallen off.
Sara Hernandez: Are you left-handed?
Linda Miller: No.
Sara Hernandez: Oh, pity.
Linda Miller: Okay. Should I clean? Okay, I think like horses uh because they are strong and beautiful, so if I want to write it here, I think I can.
Maxine Carol: Never mind.
Sara Hernandez: Ah, it's maybe
Gladys Evans: Yeah.
Sara Hernandez: better if you leave it.
Gladys Evans: Yeah. Maybe we should just continue.
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Gladys Evans: Yeah, don't worry about it.
Maxine Carol: no
Gladys Evans: No.
Maxine Carol: worry.
Linda Miller: Okay.
Sara Hernandez: You won't draw them,
Maxine Carol: You can
Sara Hernandez: or?
Maxine Carol: draw it, if you
Linda Miller: I dunno if I can.
Maxine Carol: want.
Sara Hernandez: Just try. I would like to
Linda Miller: Okay.
Sara Hernandez: see how it looks like.
Linda Miller: It may be like a cow or I dunno, whatever. I'm not good very good in drawing. Okay, so this is very It's a bird, I think. I dunno what is it.
Sara Hernandez: No, I think it's clear.
Linda Miller: Four. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. I'm shameful
Gladys Evans: Oh
Sara Hernandez: It's okay. It's
Gladys Evans: that's
Sara Hernandez: in
Maxine Carol: Good.
Gladys Evans: good, it's good.
Sara Hernandez: it's indeed beautiful.
Gladys Evans: Yeah, and strong.
Linda Miller: Yeah. Okay.
Sara Hernandez: Okay. Bob. Have to remember it. Bob.
Maxine Carol: So good um So, let's talk about money. Uh we are going to to sell we want to sell uh this remote control for twenty five Euro Euro. And uh our expected profit will be around fifty million Euro. And uh we are trying to to have a market all around the world. So n not only for Switzerland, but for the world. Uh. So, um. The We expect a production cost of maximum uh twelve point fifty Euro.
Sara Hernandez: Per unit, I guess.
Maxine Carol: Yeah,
Sara Hernandez: Y
Maxine Carol: of course.
Sara Hernandez: oh okay.
Maxine Carol: Um, so we can start today to have a first idea of what we want to do what are our experiments with remote control, and any idea? So, if you have some experience, good or bad, with remote controls you can share it and say what you f what is your idea. Anything.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Gladys Evans: Well, from experience, um I've had remote controls in the past that have had very they've had lots and lots of buttons and they've been very small, and it's been very hard to to to use, because there's so many buttons, and you know it's very hard to see which buttons do what, and the buttons are very small and very hard to press. Um and and normally you only every use, you know, on a T_V_ remote you only ever use, mostly, you know, f four
Maxine Carol: Mm.
Gladys Evans: or f six
Sara Hernandez: Oh.
Gladys Evans: buttons. Um. So it's frustrated Gladys Evans in the past, th that.
Sara Hernandez: Okay, I have also some points uh. Maybe two points. Uh first would be that in current remote controls there is no back light, so if you are if you are uh playing with this in the dark room it's
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Sara Hernandez: it's probably worth to to have something like uh back light. And maybe it could be also dependant on the the amount of of light in the room, so that if if it's in the day it doesn't need to be back lighted because it works on the battery, so. So something like this. And the second thing, f second point from Gladys Evans would be that in a normal remote control there is uh there are two buttons for volume control. But
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Sara Hernandez: I prefer like a potential-meter or something like.
Gladys Evans: Ah, okay. Okay.
Sara Hernandez: You know, some slider
Maxine Carol: Okay.
Sara Hernandez: or
Linda Miller: Mm-hmm.
Sara Hernandez: Not
Gladys Evans: Okay,
Sara Hernandez: just two
Gladys Evans: n
Sara Hernandez: discrete buttons for volume, but something which
Maxine Carol: Mm-hmm.
Gladys Evans: Is that because
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Gladys Evans: the of the discrete volume levels, or is that
Sara Hernandez: Yeah, but I can reach In uh one second I can mute it down, or
Gladys Evans: Yeah.
Maxine Carol: Are
Sara Hernandez: or make
Maxine Carol: you not afraid
Sara Hernandez: a
Maxine Carol: that
Sara Hernandez: high volume.
Maxine Carol: if you take your remote control you can move the slide and it could the the
Sara Hernandez: Ah,
Maxine Carol: volume can
Sara Hernandez: n.
Maxine Carol: go up very quickly and it
Sara Hernandez: If
Maxine Carol: can
Sara Hernandez: it drops to the floor then it starts
Maxine Carol: Yeah, also
Sara Hernandez: to scream.
Maxine Carol: if y when you take the the remote control, for example on the table, you take it and you push the button and everything is very loud, and you have
Sara Hernandez: Yeah,
Maxine Carol: a heart attack.
Sara Hernandez: f It depends what what you feel about that.
Maxine Carol: Okay.
Gladys Evans: Yeah.
Sara Hernandez: Yeah but we can we can think of these things afterwards, but if you have some
Maxine Carol: Yeah
Linda Miller: Uh
Sara Hernandez: more notes
Maxine Carol: so
Linda Miller: I
Maxine Carol: you
Sara Hernandez: on
Maxine Carol: can
Sara Hernandez: that.
Maxine Carol: Do you
Linda Miller: Yeah,
Maxine Carol: have something?
Linda Miller: just a simple experience. I uh I prefer um remote control working with radio waves, because remote control working with infra-red rays
Maxine Carol: Yeah,
Linda Miller: you should
Maxine Carol: that's true.
Linda Miller: you should you should keep it in a specific direction and then try
Maxine Carol: Yeah
Linda Miller: it hard
Maxine Carol: without
Linda Miller: to
Maxine Carol: obstacles
Linda Miller: tune.
Maxine Carol: and.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Maxine Carol: Okay.
Sara Hernandez: Um.
Maxine Carol: Let's continue. I have a meeting in five minutes, so
Gladys Evans: Okay.
Maxine Carol: maybe we should hurry.
Sara Hernandez: Okay,
Maxine Carol: Um.
Sara Hernandez: just a second.
Maxine Carol: So we will close uh this meeting. So we will have a next meeting in uh thirty minutes. Um. Uh. The So I will ask you to do some work. Uh the the interface interface developer will work on the on the design of the remote control, start to to have new idea and
Sara Hernandez: Which i which is Hamed,
Maxine Carol: read about
Linda Miller: Mm.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Gladys Evans: He's Sara Hernandez? No, you're Sara Hernandez.
Linda Miller: Yeah.
Sara Hernandez: Uh I am the Technical
Maxine Carol: Oh.
Sara Hernandez: Designer, I dunno
Gladys Evans: Yeah, I
Sara Hernandez: which
Gladys Evans: think
Sara Hernandez: one,
Gladys Evans: that's
Sara Hernandez: uh
Maxine Carol: Industry
Gladys Evans: the first.
Maxine Carol: and
Sara Hernandez: v.
Linda Miller: Uh-huh.
Maxine Carol: Oh.
Gladys Evans: I_D_. Industrial Designer. And the second one is Linda Miller.
Linda Miller: Mm-hmm.
Sara Hernandez: User
Gladys Evans: And
Sara Hernandez: Interf
Gladys Evans: then
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Gladys Evans: last one's marketing, which is
Maxine Carol: Yeah.
Gladys Evans: Gladys Evans.
Sara Hernandez: Okay, so I'm the first
Maxine Carol: So,
Sara Hernandez: one.
Maxine Carol: um For Linda Miller, which is Hamed
Linda Miller: Mm-hmm.
Maxine Carol: um, uh, you
Sara Hernandez: I
Maxine Carol: are going
Sara Hernandez: see.
Maxine Carol: to work on the technical functions of the remote control.
Linda Miller: Okay.
Maxine Carol: And for the Marketing uh Manager, I dunno, okay, which is Bob, uh you are going to try to to find the user requirements f uh for the remote control. Um, you will receive by email uh the specific instructions and uh by your personal coach.
Sara Hernandez: Sign.
Maxine Carol: Yep finished. So I see you in thirty minutes.
Gladys Evans: Great, okay.
Sara Hernandez: Okay.
Linda Miller: Okay,
Gladys Evans: Thanks guys. Bye.
Linda Miller: thanks. Bye.
Maxine Carol: Thank you.
Sara Hernandez: Uh. | Maxine Carol opened the meeting and had the team members introduce themselves by name and their role in the project. Maxine Carol introduced the upcoming project to the team and then had the team members participate in a tool training exercise in which each member drew his favorite animal on the white board and discussed what he liked about the animal. Maxine Carol also discussed selling prices and the project budget. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes, focusing on various features they would like to see in the remote they will produce, as well as features they find unappealing in current remotes. | 0 | amisum | test |
Willene Mejia: Okay, so now we are on the conceptual design meeting.
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Willene Mejia: Uh y getting close to the last is the penultim meeting.
Mirta Smith: How was lunch?
Willene Mejia: Mm great.
Eugenia Torres: Thanks Don't be sarcastic Mark.
Willene Mejia: So um I will again do the secretary part uh we will have three presentation first um uh the
Eugenia Torres: Uh
Willene Mejia: industrial
Eugenia Torres: Rama.
Willene Mejia: design,
Kerrie Stoneham: Ramaro.
Willene Mejia: first Rama then Mark and then Sammy. Um um we have to take a decision on the control remote control concepts and we have forty minutes.
Mirta Smith: Mm.
Willene Mejia: So what we want to the decision we want to take this meeting on the um first on the component concept, so what kind of energy we use uh what kind of chip on print and one ki kind of case. And also on user interface concept uh what kind of interface we use and if there is some supplements. And at the end um Sammy will give um a trend watching on what he's he's been doing. It's So, let's go. First with Rama.
Willene Mejia: Participant two.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, participant two. Component.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yep. So we're to mainly design f mainly need to know which components we'll use for energy, and the material and interface. For energy there are maybe two or three possibilities. First one, we can use simple battery, or we can use traditional solar cells or mm and the material we can have plastic, rubber which is good for this R_S_A_
Eugenia Torres: Ah.
Kerrie Stoneham: and then uh titanium, which can be which have very good look an and then interface we're to use push buttons or liquid crystal d L_C_D_ display. And we can use some, moving kind of thing. So, as we discussed before, we need to we would like to have some speech recognition s chip in our remote control. So this can be simple kind of programmable chip and which can use microphone sensors. And we also want to look at our remote control, so. Still we are looking for possible uh technical uh specifications and how w easy we can do and within our pri range, like we're to in our twelve Euros or around that. So we are looking for simple devices or simple technology to do the location of remote control in a room
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm,
Kerrie Stoneham: or
Willene Mejia: okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: in a house. So uh we discussed an Excuse Eugenia Torres. So we would like to propose battery instead of solar cells and it would be problematic uh to have
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: enough energy with the solar cells and so we would like to just use simple battery. And also we want to go for titanium design instead of rubber or and well the problem is with this design we found that we can't use double-curved shapes.
Eugenia Torres: What is a double-curved shape?
Kerrie Stoneham: Like you can have two curves.
Eugenia Torres: Uh-huh.
Mirta Smith: Why?
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh it's I think in manufacturing I guess it's problematic. So, we want to go for simple push buttons because it need a simple chip and it's really lesser uh re really less expensive compared to L_C_D_ which are uh which needs advanced chip technology and it's more expensive, since we
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: want to put some other features such as speech recognition we want to reduce uh
Eugenia Torres: The cost.
Willene Mejia: Um I want
Kerrie Stoneham: cost.
Willene Mejia: to know why it b uh just uh sorry but for the point before uh
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Willene Mejia: why not the rubber, if
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Willene Mejia: it is something that it seems to be
Kerrie Stoneham: And also
Willene Mejia: light.
Kerrie Stoneham: like in if you put a it's be difficult to do all the moulding of buttons and these things
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: and
Willene Mejia: You m titanium it's more uh
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: W we can use something like you know the whole body's titanium but there are some rubber or I dunno some rubber parts like
Eugenia Torres: Mm like
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: this?
Willene Mejia: Yes
Mirta Smith: to make it
Willene Mejia: so
Mirta Smith: feel better
Willene Mejia: mm
Mirta Smith: and to you know
Kerrie Stoneham: Like in cell phones recently
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: these
Willene Mejia: Uh-huh.
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: you can
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: with the rubber in four directions
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: and yeah. But full assembly We'll use mainly for titanium
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: rubber is expensive
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: and also it's bit difficult to do all the shapes
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: uh. And this push
Willene Mejia: Uh
Kerrie Stoneham: buttons
Willene Mejia: yeah
Kerrie Stoneham: we
Willene Mejia: so
Kerrie Stoneham: we would like to use push buttons instead of L_C_D_s and so we want to mo I mean we're we want to put speech recognition so we want to reduce price on this technology and so that we can have
Willene Mejia: Okay,
Kerrie Stoneham: enough space
Willene Mejia: s so
Kerrie Stoneham: or enough money
Willene Mejia: simple
Kerrie Stoneham: for
Willene Mejia: button and uh
Kerrie Stoneham: S
Willene Mejia: speech
Kerrie Stoneham: S
Eugenia Torres: Speech
Willene Mejia: recognition for the more complicated.
Kerrie Stoneham: Y
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah we have simple buttons and speech recognition technology,
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Kerrie Stoneham: so
Mirta Smith: and still we have mm can we still include the L_ L_S_D_ display?
Eugenia Torres: L_C_D_.
Mirta Smith: L_C_D_ yeah L_C_D_.
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh l
Eugenia Torres: Seems not, it's either
Kerrie Stoneham: So
Eugenia Torres: L_C_D_
Kerrie Stoneham: uh
Eugenia Torres: or push-button.
Kerrie Stoneham: it's
Mirta Smith: No,
Kerrie Stoneham: like
Mirta Smith: it's
Kerrie Stoneham: a
Mirta Smith: not gonna be a t no touchable but still like a source of information or source for menus.
Eugenia Torres: Ah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah maybe maybe we can see depending on how we'll come up with our full design then if we have enough money or like for
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Kerrie Stoneham: and
Mirta Smith: so
Kerrie Stoneham: because
Mirta Smith: try
Kerrie Stoneham: the
Mirta Smith: it,
Kerrie Stoneham: speech
Mirta Smith: let's t
Kerrie Stoneham: recognition technology will take at least five Euros or or something so
Eugenia Torres: The
Kerrie Stoneham: we want to reduce
Eugenia Torres: L_C_D_
Kerrie Stoneham: the
Eugenia Torres: would
Kerrie Stoneham: cost on display or this
Eugenia Torres: The display
Kerrie Stoneham: inter
Eugenia Torres: would only be display and not uh
Mirta Smith: Yeah,
Eugenia Torres: touch sensitive
Mirta Smith: yeah,
Eugenia Torres: you mean.
Mirta Smith: it's
Eugenia Torres: Just
Mirta Smith: it's
Eugenia Torres: uh
Mirta Smith: not
Eugenia Torres: for
Mirta Smith: gonna
Eugenia Torres: output,
Mirta Smith: be a touch pad, uh just
Eugenia Torres: yeah.
Mirta Smith: a display for
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Ok
Mirta Smith: giving you information.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, that
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: can we we can consider, because like it won't take
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: much money I guess, because
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: Okay, yep.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: You have any further questions or?
Eugenia Torres: I guess no um. So the batteries uh are
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: going to be very light.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, we're to go for li and now I think we have many options in the market so we can
Eugenia Torres: Okay
Kerrie Stoneham: go for small
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: nickel or
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: alkaline batteries for really light batteries and with uh good price.
Eugenia Torres: So this device on n that can be used for speech recognition could also be used for just uh the finding it basically, instead of clapping why not
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, that's
Eugenia Torres: just be
Kerrie Stoneham: then the
Eugenia Torres: ask.
Kerrie Stoneham: the one thing we want to know is like because remote control is used for like in the household so it it it will be it m maybe at least five, six people want to use it so
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: so how to uh uh how to define our re speech recognition whether we want to do s speaker independent or speaker dependent. If we're going for more speaker independent then it would be like again cumbersome and we need really m more technology and
Willene Mejia: Okay, for
Kerrie Stoneham: so
Willene Mejia: the location.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, if
Willene Mejia: Hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: if everybody in the house n to locate then we're to go for some speaker independent technology or
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: something.
Willene Mejia: Okay. So let's now go to the you don't have more
Eugenia Torres: No,
Willene Mejia: question?
Eugenia Torres: it's okay.
Mirta Smith: No more
Willene Mejia: Um
Mirta Smith: questions.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yep. Thank
Willene Mejia: mm
Kerrie Stoneham: you.
Eugenia Torres: Puts less of constraint
Willene Mejia: thank you
Eugenia Torres: on
Willene Mejia: mm.
Eugenia Torres: what we can do but
Mirta Smith: Mm yeah,
Willene Mejia: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: it's always like that. We have dreams and the in the end we find out that it's not feasible.
Willene Mejia: Yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: Oh.
Willene Mejia: but
Eugenia Torres: Anyway.
Kerrie Stoneham: We
Willene Mejia: mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: have uh some limitations.
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: But still uh L_S_D_'s already
Eugenia Torres: L_C_D_.
Mirta Smith: quite nice,
Eugenia Torres: L_S_D_
Mirta Smith: L_C_
Eugenia Torres: is something else, and it's quite nice
Mirta Smith: I'm
Eugenia Torres: as
Mirta Smith: an
Eugenia Torres: well.
Mirta Smith: artist, sorry.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: So,
Mirta Smith: So uh, that's
Willene Mejia: Um
Eugenia Torres: go
Mirta Smith: not
Eugenia Torres: on uh
Mirta Smith: I hope
Eugenia Torres: artist.
Mirta Smith: that's not too much.
Willene Mejia: yeah. Now
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Willene Mejia: let's talk about uh interface.
Mirta Smith: Uh participant number three.
Willene Mejia: Three.
Kerrie Stoneham: Three.
Mirta Smith: Uh
Willene Mejia: Which one?
Eugenia Torres: Hmm.
Mirta Smith: mm mm uh have a look at this no it's yeah.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Mirta Smith: Uh so the concept of the interface. Generally I developed quite a broad concept not only for the interface, but for possible instruction or user's manual and uh all the complex things that come together with your T_V_ and remote controls. So let's start with this. We got our perfect remote control with a lot of buttons and uh we got explanation for every button and you can use your time and uh it will take i some days to learn all this buttons and um the L_C_D_ is going to be somewhere here and uh go back button, I don't know really where it is, maybe one of this buttons, and um power on and off mm I
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Mirta Smith: I don't remember so uh it it it should be maybe this button is power on and off? Or no? I can see nothing. So that's our concept. It's called the millennium remote control.
Eugenia Torres: Let's change millenniums.
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: So maybe you can use in the end
Eugenia Torres: doesn't
Kerrie Stoneham: and
Eugenia Torres: make sense. This is very
Mirta Smith: Really? I
Eugenia Torres: ugly.
Mirta Smith: thought you like it.
Eugenia Torres: Oh no,
Mirta Smith: Ah okay just press
Eugenia Torres: too much
Mirta Smith: the button,
Eugenia Torres: concept.
Mirta Smith: please uh.
Eugenia Torres: Ah.
Willene Mejia: No.
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Mirta Smith: Yeah, we will not use this. We will not use this. But instead of this I will devise
Eugenia Torres: Ah,
Mirta Smith: That's
Eugenia Torres: back
Mirta Smith: our
Eugenia Torres: today.
Mirta Smith: concept. And it's got just few buttons, quite low looking, and all this stuff we already we already discussed.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm. 'Kay.
Mirta Smith: And uh what will people say? They'll say it's perfect. Or what will say? Uh they will say it's splendid. And uh e everyone will say I'll buy it.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Mirta Smith: And everyone's gonna be satisfied.
Eugenia Torres: Do you think it can come in several colours? Or did the
Mirta Smith: I would make a backlight of the L_C_D_ screen with different colours.
Eugenia Torres: Um but not the case.
Mirta Smith: Not the case.
Eugenia Torres: Uh the case would only be in that uh aluminium uh titanium stuff, like
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Willene Mejia: Because apparently from your survey people like colours, no?
Eugenia Torres: Yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: well they like uh something which is
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Eugenia Torres: uh
Mirta Smith: so let's remember there's a Nokia phone which changeable panels.
Eugenia Torres: Mm yeah, okay, so that would
Mirta Smith: Do you
Eugenia Torres: be
Mirta Smith: like it?
Eugenia Torres: the option. I don't know I don't have a Nokia phone, but
Kerrie Stoneham: But it's
Eugenia Torres: I
Kerrie Stoneham: uh
Eugenia Torres: don't use that but again, uh
Mirta Smith: That's why you
Eugenia Torres: I
Mirta Smith: don't
Eugenia Torres: might
Mirta Smith: have it.
Eugenia Torres: Yeah,
Mirta Smith: That's
Eugenia Torres: bu
Mirta Smith: why, 'cause
Eugenia Torres: but
Mirta Smith: it's nasty.
Kerrie Stoneham: But it would be expensive, no? If you use colour L_C_D_.
Mirta Smith: No.
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh instead of that maybe we can change the colour of
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: the assembler. Maybe we can just if users want more colours they can pay more money to get this uh the shapes and they can have different assembly.
Mirta Smith: Um, I am here.
Kerrie Stoneham: So
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: users have different I mean they have their own interests, colour interests and so
Willene Mejia: So?
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: So we can just if they want they can just pay another two
Willene Mejia: Uh-huh,
Mirta Smith: 'Kay.
Willene Mejia: okay,
Kerrie Stoneham: Euro.
Willene Mejia: so you you propose something with option
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: i that increase the price if we
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah yeah yes.
Willene Mejia: if
Kerrie Stoneham: If
Willene Mejia: you want
Kerrie Stoneham: they want like
Willene Mejia: o
Kerrie Stoneham: uh so
Willene Mejia: more
Kerrie Stoneham: that we
Willene Mejia: colours
Kerrie Stoneham: can
Willene Mejia: on
Eugenia Torres: Kind
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: of
Willene Mejia: L_C_D_,
Eugenia Torres: upgradable uh
Willene Mejia: yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: remote control. Wow,
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: wow.
Kerrie Stoneham: Just they'll get few more things and
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Kerrie Stoneham: few more colours.
Mirta Smith: what uh there's one more decisi uh one more solution in fact, um 'cause there are some some paints that can change colour according to where they are, like they can reflect different colours
Kerrie Stoneham: Lights, yeah.
Eugenia Torres: Mm.
Willene Mejia: And
Mirta Smith: depending
Willene Mejia: thermodynamic
Mirta Smith: on what is around,
Willene Mejia: also.
Mirta Smith: like
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: what
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Mirta Smith: colour
Eugenia Torres: Like
Mirta Smith: is
Eugenia Torres: a
Mirta Smith: around,
Eugenia Torres: chameleon.
Mirta Smith: and depending on the temperature, yeah.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah yeah.
Mirta Smith: We can make it in fact.
Willene Mejia: Yeah
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Willene Mejia: but that's
Mirta Smith: If
Willene Mejia: maybe
Mirta Smith: if if
Willene Mejia: mo
Mirta Smith: the
Willene Mejia: too much expensive,
Mirta Smith: okay.
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Willene Mejia: yeah. But uh it can be in uh maybe in an a gradable
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm,
Willene Mejia: version,
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: mm-hmm,
Willene Mejia: but
Eugenia Torres: Because
Mirta Smith: so
Eugenia Torres: uh I think there are two kinds of people. Those for which the remote control is uh is to be uh something useful uh I'm going to talk about this later but and those for which is something that that that uh is uh specific to them so it it's like a signature. My remote control is pink. Nobody else than Eugenia Torres has a pink remote control.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Mirta Smith: Uh-huh.
Eugenia Torres: And that makes Eugenia Torres special.
Willene Mejia: Okay and you think that we don't have to make to make them pay more because of uh o
Eugenia Torres: I
Willene Mejia: or
Eugenia Torres: think I think
Willene Mejia: this
Eugenia Torres: they
Willene Mejia: is
Eugenia Torres: would be ready p ready to pay more for that.
Willene Mejia: Okay, so
Eugenia Torres: Those who wanted to have
Willene Mejia: so
Eugenia Torres: it pink.
Willene Mejia: i
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Willene Mejia: it's not uh a s base
Eugenia Torres: No
Willene Mejia: service
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: mm
Willene Mejia: it's
Eugenia Torres: no.
Mirta Smith: So,
Willene Mejia: a
Mirta Smith: be an option, yeah.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: It might be optional,
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: will be really few, no? So like we
Eugenia Torres: The
Kerrie Stoneham: can
Eugenia Torres: the young
Kerrie Stoneham: those
Eugenia Torres: people the young people want to be different from their friends.
Kerrie Stoneham: Ah.
Eugenia Torres: Although similar but have
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: something
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: just slightly better. Pink
Willene Mejia: So
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Willene Mejia: m so maybe that's if that it's a selling point
Eugenia Torres: Mm.
Willene Mejia: maybe
Mirta Smith: Yeah,
Willene Mejia: it has
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: yeah,
Willene Mejia: to be the base.
Mirta Smith: yeah. But you know if you want to be different you just take your remote control with you all the time. And
Eugenia Torres: Yeah,
Mirta Smith: it
Willene Mejia: And
Mirta Smith: makes
Willene Mejia: you'll
Mirta Smith: you different,
Willene Mejia: be
Eugenia Torres: yeah.
Mirta Smith: you
Eugenia Torres: You always
Mirta Smith: know?
Willene Mejia: different.
Eugenia Torres: have your
Willene Mejia: Uh
Eugenia Torres: remote. Oh,
Mirta Smith: Anyone
Eugenia Torres: you don't?
Mirta Smith: has their remote controls
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: here?
Eugenia Torres: You
Willene Mejia: in
Mirta Smith: No?
Willene Mejia: the
Eugenia Torres: don't
Willene Mejia: train
Eugenia Torres: have your remo
Willene Mejia: uh, hello uh no. Want to change
Eugenia Torres: Wh you
Willene Mejia: my
Eugenia Torres: you
Willene Mejia: neighbour.
Eugenia Torres: know like for instance take the iPod. It's a kind of remote control. Uh it's white
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: and it's so white that you see it from any anywhere. It
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: has this distinctive look and feel and look which people seems to like
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: just because it's a colour that we don't usually see in a remote control. White.
Mirta Smith: Uh-huh,
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Mirta Smith: uh-huh. Could
Eugenia Torres: Seems
Mirta Smith: we integrate
Eugenia Torres: important.
Mirta Smith: something into our remote control, something like light?
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm.
Mirta Smith: That they can use it in darkness, like.
Eugenia Torres: Mm
Mirta Smith: Hand
Eugenia Torres: glow
Mirta Smith: light,
Eugenia Torres: in the dark,
Mirta Smith: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: so
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah maybe like the infrared like we can put some
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: radium chips or something so that like at least um yeah.
Willene Mejia: Iradium?
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah,
Willene Mejia: Ah
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Willene Mejia: sorry.
Kerrie Stoneham: that
Willene Mejia: Mm. Okay.
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Mirta Smith: Okay. S
Willene Mejia: So mm
Mirta Smith: well, let's go on maybe
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: with the presentation.
Eugenia Torres: Uh-huh,
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: yeah sure.
Mirta Smith: And um
Kerrie Stoneham: Oh.
Mirta Smith: the remote control's going to be smart but how smart should it be to not to complicate things too much? And uh I dunno that's a question to you and to mm
Eugenia Torres: Well so I
Mirta Smith: to
Eugenia Torres: heard that uh it seems that speech recognition is something that can be done uh so that's the smartness of the thing. Currently
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: we don't have guns with speech recognition or uh beer cans with speech recognition but we may have remote controls with speech recognition.
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Eugenia Torres: I
Mirta Smith: okay.
Eugenia Torres: dunno.
Willene Mejia: Mm,
Mirta Smith: So
Willene Mejia: that's
Mirta Smith: just
Willene Mejia: a nice
Mirta Smith: just
Willene Mejia: world.
Mirta Smith: just just think about it um.
Eugenia Torres: Don't touch the remote.
Mirta Smith: Thank you.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: But yeah. Are are you saying here that uh the remote controls should be aware of who is using it? So for instance the young guy would not be able to use it because his father doesn't want.
Mirta Smith: Uh yeah
Eugenia Torres: Like with
Mirta Smith: I just
Eugenia Torres: some
Mirta Smith: want to say it should be real
Eugenia Torres: Maybe
Mirta Smith: smart.
Eugenia Torres: fingerprint recognition or
Mirta Smith: Voice recognition is quite tough. I say don't use it, and the control just looks.
Eugenia Torres: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: 'Cause I
Eugenia Torres: Um
Mirta Smith: ordered jus
Eugenia Torres: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Mirta Smith: To l
Kerrie Stoneham: that
Mirta Smith: to l lock it.
Kerrie Stoneham: mm that could be feasible I guess, like
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: So since we have we want to do some speaker dependent speech recognition uh so
Eugenia Torres: So it could
Kerrie Stoneham: we
Eugenia Torres: be
Kerrie Stoneham: can use yeah.
Eugenia Torres: smart in that
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah,
Eugenia Torres: way.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Willene Mejia: Mm. Okay.
Eugenia Torres: But for instance th I I'm thinking about the other uh uh particularity that the the remote control could have. S since it it knows who is using it, it might also record the kind of uh channels you are u more often using and
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: uh levels of volumes that you're more often uh
Mirta Smith: Yeah, sure.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: things like that
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: and provide you ways of using them, I dunno, somehow, I dunno,
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: that might be expensive but
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh it's
Eugenia Torres: that might also be a good sales pitch again.
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm.
Eugenia Torres: The remote that knows you.
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Mirta Smith: Okay, thanks.
Willene Mejia: So
Eugenia Torres: My turn?
Willene Mejia: it's yeah, Marketing Expert.
Eugenia Torres: Okay, it's alright.
Willene Mejia: Participant
Kerrie Stoneham: Four.
Willene Mejia: two? Four,
Eugenia Torres: Four, I think.
Willene Mejia: sorry.
Eugenia Torres: Trend, yeah. No uh yes. Okay, so I'm going to talk about trends and um I hope this can help us to to understand l how we should design our remote control. So, next slide please. So first maybe just a small recap on how how do we watch trends so it's not so uh simple you might think that it's easy but uh it's not so simple. Anyway these days uh the best uh source of information is the web as you know, so have to to go often on the web and look at uh what the others are doing, and ask real people who are using real remote controls every day uh or any other tool that is similar to a remote control which basically is a small device that people have with them, always, like a phone. We can we can use the phone as a as a good uh uh example of where to in be inspired. Of course those tha d who are watching the trends are also have also to be inspired because in fact they're not only watching the trends, they're inventing it, they're creating the trend. I hope I'm going to try to help you on that. This is more risky because you're not following the trend, you try to invent it, which means either you succeed and you make a lot of money or you don't and you're out of business. So anyway uh next slide please. Uh to be to be quick there's a lot of words here but uh basically there are uh in in the market of of remote controls there are three aspects that we should very pay much attention to. The first one, which seems to be the most important one, is that it has to be fancy, it has to have a fancy look and feel. And uh interestingly this is the very most important thing. It has to be fancy. Strangely enough it's more important to be fancy than to be wi and now that's the second thing it has to be, it has to be technologically i innovative, it has to be new with some of uh new uh technology inside and uh and this is also uh more important than the last thing which we w may think that would have been the most important, which is that it should be easy to use and it should be easy to use as a remote control. So as you see uh it first have to be very nice, s something that people are proud of uh uh that i uh they can be Kerrie Stoneham identified with uh and and then uh something that um contains very novel stuff that they can talk about with their friends, huh, mine has this and not yours. And finally of course it has to be useful as a remote control but it seems that it's not so important that it's useful as a remote control. Next slide please.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: Uh and now in a more uh general uh uh broad way of seeing th uh the thing. If we look back and not uh look at only remote controls I think it's important to see that the trends are quite the same in many areas so currently the the trends that we see in l in l big cities like Paris and Milan, well, it seems that this year things should have uh a fruit and vegetable uh way of of look or feel or so. And I think of course uh i it applies to everything. That's the thing with trends. It it can travel f from clothe to furniture same idea. Fruit and vegetable. Think fruit and vegetable. And uh if we co we compare to last year, now it has to be spongy,
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Mirta Smith: What is
Eugenia Torres: yeah.
Mirta Smith: spongy?
Eugenia Torres: Well this
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah kind of
Eugenia Torres: so
Kerrie Stoneham: um maybe
Eugenia Torres: so I think uh uh i When we were talking about rubber, I think
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah
Eugenia Torres: uh
Kerrie Stoneham: it
Eugenia Torres: the rubber aspect might be important because it's what is
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: probably
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: more feasible
Willene Mejia: S
Eugenia Torres: in terms of sponginess.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: So maybe titanium it's not a good idea.
Eugenia Torres: Seems not, seems not.
Kerrie Stoneham: We need to think about mm
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: mm.
Eugenia Torres: Yeah. So
Willene Mejia: Um sorry Mark. It seems
Eugenia Torres: Think
Willene Mejia: to
Eugenia Torres: more
Willene Mejia: be
Eugenia Torres: of uh something in the colours of uh like fruit
Kerrie Stoneham: Fruit.
Eugenia Torres: and vegetables and spongy,
Kerrie Stoneham: Even
Eugenia Torres: as a
Kerrie Stoneham: shape?
Eugenia Torres: even in the shape it has to be more round and uh
Kerrie Stoneham: More
Eugenia Torres: more uh
Willene Mejia: Mm-mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: uh look natural
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: somehow. I mean And not those futuristic uh remote control with angles and uh
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: and titanium like.
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: So that's
Willene Mejia: Hmm.
Eugenia Torres: what people seem to yeah i I know
Willene Mejia: You're
Eugenia Torres: it's
Willene Mejia: old-fashioned.
Eugenia Torres: quite
Willene Mejia: Sorry.
Eugenia Torres: far from what you thought but that's that's fashion and
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: Okay that's all I have to say.
Willene Mejia: Mm you have questions?
Kerrie Stoneham: So these abilities are mainly ad addressed by young people? Or it's
Eugenia Torres: These I'm sorry.
Kerrie Stoneham: This you you so did
Eugenia Torres: Yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: you
Eugenia Torres: yeah we have people uh uh listening
Kerrie Stoneham: Where?
Eugenia Torres: to the trends everywhere in
Kerrie Stoneham: Oh.
Eugenia Torres: the world, of course,
Kerrie Stoneham: Oh, okay,
Eugenia Torres: as you know our company is quite big
Kerrie Stoneham: mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: and uh so I'm
Kerrie Stoneham: It's
Eugenia Torres: just
Kerrie Stoneham: not from
Eugenia Torres: asking them
Kerrie Stoneham: mm.
Eugenia Torres: what are the current trends
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: according to them when they go in the stores and
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: when they ask uh their uh friends that are
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: also
Kerrie Stoneham: It's more general
Eugenia Torres: well.
Kerrie Stoneham: trend it's not particular to the remote
Eugenia Torres: No,
Kerrie Stoneham: control.
Eugenia Torres: it's not it's not this this is very general, yeah. But it seems that trends travel
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: across things.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: The what we
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah but some materials n they're to be uh they're to be something like solid like they can't be really
Eugenia Torres: Sure.
Kerrie Stoneham: spongy or
Eugenia Torres: Yeah. We
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Eugenia Torres: have to I
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: think we have to have the look of
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah,
Eugenia Torres: fruit
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Eugenia Torres: and vegetables
Kerrie Stoneham: sponge, yeah yeah at least
Eugenia Torres: but
Kerrie Stoneham: that's
Eugenia Torres: we still have to put our chips inside, so
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah yeah
Eugenia Torres: of course. This is your problem.
Kerrie Stoneham: that yeah
Eugenia Torres: This is not mine.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah. Yeah. Yeah, looking yeah fruit. These things can be easily incorporated. We can
Eugenia Torres: Yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: have
Eugenia Torres: I think in
Kerrie Stoneham: t
Eugenia Torres: the
Kerrie Stoneham: colours
Eugenia Torres: colours and
Kerrie Stoneham: or
Eugenia Torres: in the uh the kind of
Kerrie Stoneham: this
Eugenia Torres: material.
Kerrie Stoneham: shape or at least
Eugenia Torres: If
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Eugenia Torres: if it's something like rubber made or
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: I think it it's
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: also going to be good.
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: Okay?
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: Okay. No more question? Okay.
Eugenia Torres: Yep. Thanks.
Willene Mejia: So Mm-hmm. Okay, so we will have uh next meeting in thirty minutes again. Um now you have to go straight on this individual action which i which are for Rama uh
Kerrie Stoneham: Look
Willene Mejia: wil
Kerrie Stoneham: and feel de
Willene Mejia: design, um Mark the user interface design, and uh Sammy uh the product evaluation.
Eugenia Torres: Mm-hmm.
Willene Mejia: Uh you will work together uh
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm.
Willene Mejia: on a new on on a prototype using modelling clay.
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm. Mm sounds interesting.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm um and I as always your personal coach will send you specific instruction.
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Mirta Smith: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: Thanks.
Kerrie Stoneham: So, can we highlight the specific features of our
Willene Mejia: Yeah you're right, you have
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah,
Willene Mejia: to
Kerrie Stoneham: so so we want the speech recogniser and we want some kind of buttons and we want some themes like fruits or vegetables, that's
Willene Mejia: So
Kerrie Stoneham: we
Willene Mejia: you
Kerrie Stoneham: want
Willene Mejia: say
Kerrie Stoneham: to follow
Willene Mejia: s
Kerrie Stoneham: general trend.
Eugenia Torres: Spongy.
Willene Mejia: S
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: do we agree on that? Yeah. We have to.
Kerrie Stoneham: So, do you think
Mirta Smith: So we have to uh for
Eugenia Torres: No, we don't have to,
Willene Mejia: No.
Eugenia Torres: but seems it's
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm.
Eugenia Torres: the trend. Again,
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: as I said we can also try to make it,
Mirta Smith: yeah
Eugenia Torres: to
Mirta Smith: so
Eugenia Torres: create the trend. So there's
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: no
Mirta Smith: are we confident enough on creating trends?
Eugenia Torres: Well, that's you t can try to convince us.
Mirta Smith: Well, we can make it smell like fruit.
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Willene Mejia: Okay, that's a good idea.
Kerrie Stoneham: That's
Eugenia Torres: that's
Willene Mejia: So
Eugenia Torres: a
Willene Mejia: titanium
Eugenia Torres: good idea,
Willene Mejia: smell like fruit.
Eugenia Torres: I
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Kerrie Stoneham: So what about location and these things, people are really interesting on those features? Or they really like
Eugenia Torres: Uh
Kerrie Stoneham: They more want these fancy
Eugenia Torres: I think i
Kerrie Stoneham: features
Eugenia Torres: yeah
Kerrie Stoneham: like
Eugenia Torres: i it's again in this uh what I said first it has to be fancy so I think if nobody else pro
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: provides currently a remote control with that kind of stuff
Kerrie Stoneham: Feature
Eugenia Torres: and if we can provide it I think it's a good sell for
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: us because we have
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: it and others don't.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: It's fancy. Whether it's useful or not doesn't seem to be very important.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: I I agree
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: with uh this uh Now we have to decide on what kind of fanciness. Do we take titanium smelling like fruit, or do we make spongy uh
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: fruity-like
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh we will try to explore these two options
Eugenia Torres: Maybe you
Kerrie Stoneham: and
Eugenia Torres: could
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: explore the
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Eugenia Torres: two option.
Willene Mejia: Yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah.
Willene Mejia: yeah.
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Could we make a titanium shape?
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh
Mirta Smith: I mean
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah at least like we can make
Mirta Smith: fruit-shaped.
Kerrie Stoneham: banana or
Willene Mejia: Don't
Mirta Smith: But
Willene Mejia: you say that you cannot do double shape uh
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Mirta Smith: Doub
Eugenia Torres: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: it's
Mirta Smith: double-curved.
Willene Mejia: curved
Kerrie Stoneham: it's
Willene Mejia: shape
Eugenia Torres: Seems to
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Willene Mejia: yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: that's
Eugenia Torres: be.
Kerrie Stoneham: a we're to look for
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm. Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: and and
Mirta Smith: Okay, okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: s we're to see the whether rubber is expensive and
Mirta Smith: In
Kerrie Stoneham: d
Mirta Smith: fact I just agreed to make uh to make the like titanium panels on a whole rubber body.
Kerrie Stoneham: Hmm.
Mirta Smith: Well, okay
Willene Mejia: Mm-mm.
Mirta Smith: w we'll
Willene Mejia: Okay,
Mirta Smith: see.
Willene Mejia: so you explore now that you're going to work together
Mirta Smith: Yeah
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Willene Mejia: these these two. Or or spongy an
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: Maybe we can have two different assembly also like one spongy and one kind of titanium.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: we have only the plastic or the
Mirta Smith: We'll see.
Eugenia Torres: If
Kerrie Stoneham: the
Eugenia Torres: you have
Kerrie Stoneham: chippy
Eugenia Torres: time.
Mirta Smith: We'll see.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: fibre chips or
Willene Mejia: Yeah I don't think w I think we have to choose. If we choose
Kerrie Stoneham: Uh.
Willene Mejia: uh titanium or if we choose spongy but uh it
Mirta Smith: We'll see.
Willene Mejia: cannot be
Mirta Smith: I
Willene Mejia: both.
Mirta Smith: I really don't like this modelling clay
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: 'cause you know it makes some for for I dunno
Eugenia Torres: For creation.
Mirta Smith: uh yeah
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Mirta Smith: um we'll look.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: Ah you can pretend
Kerrie Stoneham: Even
Willene Mejia: that
Kerrie Stoneham: design.
Willene Mejia: it's uh titanium.
Eugenia Torres: You can paint it afterward.
Mirta Smith: Okay,
Eugenia Torres: No problem. We have a very large department
Mirta Smith: okay.
Eugenia Torres: of paint.
Willene Mejia: Yeah, do don't worry, you you
Eugenia Torres: You will do it.
Willene Mejia: you speak with
Mirta Smith: Alright, alright.
Willene Mejia: mm mm. Okay. So explore a shape.
Kerrie Stoneham: So still we want to keep L_C_D_? Or
Willene Mejia: Mm I think it's what
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: we say, that we have an uh an L_C_D_ with uh information.
Kerrie Stoneham: Okay.
Willene Mejia: Not
Eugenia Torres: The thing is
Willene Mejia: uh
Eugenia Torres: that uh if we want to have as he says if we want to have uh a small number of buttons
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah, then we
Eugenia Torres: we
Kerrie Stoneham: can
Eugenia Torres: need to have a kind of output that
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: says currently what their
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah,
Eugenia Torres: actions are.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah, that user friendly or
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: That's
Kerrie Stoneham: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: the converse to having zillions
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: of button where each button does only
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Eugenia Torres: one thing.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Kerrie Stoneham: and we just stick with two batteries so it's not any solar
Eugenia Torres: Yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: or
Eugenia Torres: Classical,
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Eugenia Torres: we stay
Willene Mejia: Yeah,
Eugenia Torres: classical
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah
Willene Mejia: yeah,
Kerrie Stoneham: j
Eugenia Torres: in that
Willene Mejia: yeah.
Kerrie Stoneham: yeah, because
Eugenia Torres: we don't reinvent uh
Willene Mejia: Mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: the wheel. Anyway it's very in general I think people uh change T_V_ more often than batteries of their remote control. So.
Willene Mejia: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: Because the trend goes faster than the life of the
Willene Mejia: Mm-hmm.
Mirta Smith: Mm-hmm.
Eugenia Torres: So it's very
Willene Mejia: Okay.
Eugenia Torres: Okay.
Willene Mejia: So
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah.
Willene Mejia: are we
Mirta Smith: Yeah.
Eugenia Torres: We're done.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yeah,
Willene Mejia: mm.
Kerrie Stoneham: we're done.
Willene Mejia: Okay. So see you in thirty minutes.
Kerrie Stoneham: Yep. | Willene Mejia stated the agenda and set the goals for the current meeting. Kerrie Stoneham discussed different options for batteries, case materials and shapes, chips, and interface components and also discussed the components necessary for a speech recognition capable remote control. Mirta Smith presented his concept for the interface design which he called the "millennium remote control". Mirta Smith also discussed with the team color options and how to make a "smart" remote which is in tune with the user's preferences. Eugenia Torres discussed current findings from trend watching reports which indicated that there is a desire for products to have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, and be spongy. Willene Mejia gave the team members their assignments and then the team went over the decisions they had made and discussed whether to use titanium or rubber in their design. | 0 | amisum | test |
Angela Staten: Hmm.
Charlie Prather: Good morning everybody.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Good morning.
Mildred Brothers: Good morning.
Angela Staten: Good morning.
Charlie Prather: So we are asked to to make uh uh a new remote control for television. And the characteristics of this new remote control should be original and trendy and of course user user friendly. So people can can use it without any any problem.
Charlie Prather: I don't know.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well I, think we should set the the points to to drive the project and uh
Angela Staten: B did you send us an email about this?
Charlie Prather: Uh, not yet, but
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Charlie Prather: if you
Angela Staten: we
Charlie Prather: want
Angela Staten: we received an email about this uh d designs.
Charlie Prather: Do you want do you want Mildred Brothers to send you a mail?
Angela Staten: Ah it's
Charlie Prather: Or
Angela Staten: Okay.
Mildred Brothers: Or you can put it in the shared folder.
Angela Staten: Yeah, you see the email? You email. The v very no, no the
Mildred Brothers: No, I didn't get it.
Angela Staten: first one. It's inside.
Charlie Prather: Uh
Mildred Brothers: This one.
Angela Staten: No,
Mildred Brothers: No.
Angela Staten: no. The third one. Oh, you didn't get anything.
Mildred Brothers: No,
Angela Staten: It's strange. Mm. got an email about the dis about the discussion Yeah.
Charlie Prather: You get email,
Angela Staten: I dunno from who.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah, from the account manager.
Angela Staten: From the account manager. You have received the same email, right?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: I think it's for your guys to how to design it all the aspects so you need
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: that information.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah, I think so.
Angela Staten: Yeah, so each of us has a role to do.
Mildred Brothers: Yeah
Charlie Prather: S
Mildred Brothers: I think
Angela Staten: In each
Mildred Brothers: assign your uh roles.
Angela Staten: We already have
Charlie Prather: each
Angela Staten: our role.
Charlie Prather: for each
Mildred Brothers: For
Charlie Prather: one.
Mildred Brothers: each person, yeah.
Angela Staten: 'Kay, we can
Charlie Prather: So there are so we
Angela Staten: So
Charlie Prather: have
Angela Staten: there
Charlie Prather: three
Angela Staten: are three kinds of designs,
Charlie Prather: f yeah.
Angela Staten: that's
Charlie Prather: We have
Angela Staten: all.
Charlie Prather: functional design, conceptual design, and
Angela Staten: Okay,
Charlie Prather: detail design.
Angela Staten: alright.
Charlie Prather: So, who will be the the responsible for the functional design? Any any volunteer?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I think our uh responsibilities will be assigned when we in our mail we received
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: from the account manager.
Angela Staten: yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Uh
Angela Staten: I'm doing the interface.
Charlie Prather: You are doing th.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: No, I'm doing the interface.
Angela Staten: Are you using the you are doing
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah
Angela Staten: the in
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I I'm I'm Well, maybe we have okay so I industrial design.
Angela Staten: Ah
Jennifer Mackiewicz: but it's alright.
Angela Staten: Okay.
Charlie Prather: Okay, I'll for industrial design.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Charlie Prather: Okay. And and you Norman?
Angela Staten: Mm? Um working on i.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: User.
Angela Staten: User interface.
Charlie Prather: And
Charlie Prather: And
Mildred Brothers: Uh, I'm into marketing.
Charlie Prather: doing the marketing.
Mildred Brothers: yeah nothing much in the project.
Charlie Prather: Nothing related here to the
Mildred Brothers: Marketing in this design. A design
Angela Staten: Yes.
Mildred Brothers: is basically for industrial design and the user interface.
Angela Staten: You see the second mail? Yeah, it's inside. Go down. Appendix.
Mildred Brothers: this is.
Angela Staten: See there's a role for everybody.
Mildred Brothers: Yeah, that's right, first.
Angela Staten: Even for the marketing.
Mildred Brothers: us user define.
Charlie Prather: Next.
Angela Staten: But look at your role, your marketing role.
Mildred Brothers: There's a trend watching.
Charlie Prather: I don't
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Charlie Prather: know.
Angela Staten: that's your role.
Charlie Prather: I.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well, I think we can have a little discussion about what has to be done and what are your ideas
Charlie Prather: About the
Jennifer Mackiewicz: about
Charlie Prather: design
Jennifer Mackiewicz: the
Charlie Prather: or Maybe we'll discuss this later, no?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well, w we want to have a new re remote control for for T_V_ distribution I guess.
Charlie Prather: Mm-hmm.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: So we have to plan how how it would
Mildred Brothers: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: be
Angela Staten: Mm.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: developed and uh how we can make it work.
Angela Staten: Yes.
Mildred Brothers: I mean working remotes we already have. This will be something different from the other remotes remote controls.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah,
Charlie Prather: What
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I
Charlie Prather: we
Jennifer Mackiewicz: dunno I
Charlie Prather: we have to keep in mind the these characteristics. And of course it should not be very costly.
Mildred Brothers: Yeah, that's right.
Charlie Prather: So
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Angela Staten: Mm-hmm.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well I I think that Norman and I would think about um the technical points and um we should discuss it in the next meeting, or
Angela Staten: Need to collect information.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Charlie Prather: About the about what?
Angela Staten: Um. I I'm part of design, perhaps. Uh, what is most important in a in a remote control? What is the most important function aspect? Uh.
Charlie Prather: You mean the external or
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well, you have to make it work. That's
Charlie Prather: Yeah of g of
Angela Staten: That's
Charlie Prather: course.
Angela Staten: alright.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: the that's the big
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: thing.
Angela Staten: it should be easy to work with.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Charlie Prather: Yeah.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: We can think about an interface with uh well
Angela Staten: Uh. We maybe you can have a speech uh recognition interface. You just tell the television I want which channel. Or
Charlie Prather: You won't
Angela Staten: or you can say for example, um I want uh to list all the programme tonight. Y you know, instead of uh remote control it's doing the some searching for you, so you don't have to look for the channel you want. Just say maybe I just want to press I wanna have a button for all the movies tonight. Or a button for all the magazines, all the information documentary tonight. And then you list a few, and I will choose from the list. So instead of pressing the channel number, I am choosing the programmes directly.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah,
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: yeah.
Angela Staten: that's one way of uh making it useful.
Charlie Prather: I I think if we include a lot of technology on the remote
Angela Staten: No,
Charlie Prather: control
Angela Staten: because
Charlie Prather: it will be very costly.
Angela Staten: no, it's not very
Charlie Prather: S
Angela Staten: a lot. Th this information exists. For example you can get um
Charlie Prather: Like s uh you you you say we can use speech.
Angela Staten: You can use uh well for example anything. The the idea of using speech to reduce the button, but uh and it's
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I
Angela Staten: more natural.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I think if you want
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: t to choose uh from a list
Mildred Brothers: I'm a
Jennifer Mackiewicz: of programme
Mildred Brothers: okay.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: or or
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: something like that
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: you you may have to to use uh w uh I dunno
Mildred Brothers: I mean the main uh function of remote control is to have something in the hand and
Charlie Prather: In the
Mildred Brothers: we
Charlie Prather: hand.
Mildred Brothers: should be very careful about the size of the remote control.
Charlie Prather: Yeah.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: If we are going to add a speech interface,
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: I'm not sure with trendy slim size of the remote control
Angela Staten: Yes,
Mildred Brothers: it would be
Angela Staten: possible.
Mildred Brothers: able to put a speech recog if you want to put a speech recognition system f interface for that I think the T_V_ itself could have it.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Angela Staten: But
Mildred Brothers: And I could talk to the T_V_ television itself.
Charlie Prather: Except
Mildred Brothers: I need
Charlie Prather: if
Mildred Brothers: not have
Charlie Prather: if
Mildred Brothers: an
Charlie Prather: you are far from the T_V_.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: I mean we have
Charlie Prather: This
Mildred Brothers: some or something,
Charlie Prather: is
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Mildred Brothers: different technology
Angela Staten: yeah.
Mildred Brothers: but
Angela Staten: But
Charlie Prather: it's
Angela Staten: th the main idea I wanted to s I wanted to say is that um there should be a function, instead of choosing the ch T_V_ channel, there's a option you can choose, either T_V_ channels or or
Jennifer Mackiewicz: On the content.
Angela Staten: pr or the or the contain
Mildred Brothers: Mm-hmm,
Angela Staten: or the
Mildred Brothers: yeah.
Angela Staten: contents of the programme.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah, yeah
Angela Staten: So it's
Jennifer Mackiewicz: it's
Charlie Prather: Mm-hmm.
Angela Staten: more
Jennifer Mackiewicz: it's
Angela Staten: powerful.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: a good idea it's a good idea but
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I I think that technically it would be um a little bit uh
Angela Staten: No.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: uh more tricky to to achieve this than
Angela Staten: No, because
Jennifer Mackiewicz: just
Angela Staten: you see
Jennifer Mackiewicz: to
Angela Staten: now all the T_V_ programmes are available on the webs. They they are they are they are available in X_M_L_ format or whatever the format. We don't care. We just say that this are some content. We just want to retrieve the content and then classi sort them by the types of programmes. Some
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah
Angela Staten: of
Jennifer Mackiewicz: yeah.
Angela Staten: the websites they already provide this service, so we can just use the service available. Download it uh to the to this remote control. And then there's
Charlie Prather: Mm.
Angela Staten: there are only six buttons for six categories, or sev seven. The most there are only seven buttons. So I just choose the category one and you reuse the same button, for example to to choose among the the sorted list the programme you want, so you don't have to choose among hundred channels, if you have hundred channels, you just have six buttons, seven buttons.
Charlie Prather: Yeah we should also optimise the the number of
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well
Angela Staten: Yeah,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I
Charlie Prather: buttons.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I I I
Angela Staten: yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: think that j
Charlie Prather: This is
Jennifer Mackiewicz: just
Charlie Prather: good
Jennifer Mackiewicz: by
Charlie Prather: idea.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: using navigation buttons and the user interface on the screen
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: we are able to uh navigate uh through the
Angela Staten: Ah, yes. So.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Well channel programme or contents or
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: in an easy way,
Angela Staten: Yeah, so you don't
Jennifer Mackiewicz: so
Angela Staten: have to display here, just display on the T_V_ screen,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah
Angela Staten: right?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: in
Angela Staten: Good
Jennifer Mackiewicz: the dis
Angela Staten: idea.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: display on the T_V_ screen and just
Angela Staten: Okay.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: uh with the with your remote control would just navigate through the f
Angela Staten: I think I think that will be revol revolutionary. Because all the T_V_ uh the the remote control have all numbers, lots of buttons and then you dunno what to choose in the end.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah, yeah.
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: So
Angela Staten: Alright.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I think for for the technical points we have to to to check how to gather the data from programme or contents and all this
Angela Staten: Okay.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: stuff
Charlie Prather: So we have five minutes to
Angela Staten: Ah w w we have sometimes to use the white-board.
Charlie Prather: Ah you can y you can you
Angela Staten: Five
Charlie Prather: can
Angela Staten: minutes.
Charlie Prather: use it if you
Mildred Brothers: And
Charlie Prather: so,
Mildred Brothers: another interesting
Charlie Prather: can we
Mildred Brothers: idea for this would be to have an light adaptation system depending
Angela Staten: Okay.
Mildred Brothers: upon the picture of
Angela Staten: Okay.
Mildred Brothers: So, I mean, if you're watching a movie and suddenly there is a dark uh
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: some dark scene, the
Angela Staten: Yeah.
Mildred Brothers: lights
Charlie Prather: S
Mildred Brothers: adapt themself. The lighting in the room changes.
Angela Staten: Yeah, but we are designing
Charlie Prather: You it.
Angela Staten: just remote control.
Mildred Brothers: I mean, we have a option in the remote control. If we want to have that option, you
Angela Staten: Okay.
Mildred Brothers: press that button
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Oh
Mildred Brothers: in the remote.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: right
Angela Staten: Okay,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: so
Angela Staten: do you want to have a conceptual remote control there, or you just want to put the function
Charlie Prather: Yeah.
Angela Staten: in?
Charlie Prather: If if you you you can if you want you can
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Please,
Charlie Prather: use
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Norman, draw
Charlie Prather: th
Jennifer Mackiewicz: uh
Charlie Prather: the.
Angela Staten: Go on, draw something.
Mildred Brothers: Oh,
Angela Staten: Mm.
Mildred Brothers: I'm afraid you forgot to put your lapel.
Angela Staten: Where is it?
Mildred Brothers: The lapel.
Charlie Prather: Or before
Angela Staten: Ah, okay.
Charlie Prather: the before the the design that says.
Angela Staten: Where where is it? Here.
Mildred Brothers: Yeah, that one. Just plug
Charlie Prather: Norman.
Mildred Brothers: it. Yeah, that's
Angela Staten: Mm.
Mildred Brothers: right.
Charlie Prather: Be before before writing you can uh
Angela Staten: Mm.
Charlie Prather: sit and that says what we what we said then after that you can
Angela Staten: Okay, alright.
Charlie Prather: you can use the.
Angela Staten: So
Charlie Prather: Yeah.
Angela Staten: so the most functional des mm the most important function is to ch choo buttons to choose the content. Right?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Okay.
Angela Staten: Uh,
Charlie Prather: Okay.
Angela Staten: uh first one is to uh buttons i or it could be anything with
Charlie Prather: Yeah.
Angela Staten: buttons. Uh to choose uh content s or channels. So we have both. The user can choose w which one they want,
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah,
Angela Staten: right?
Jennifer Mackiewicz: by content or by channel, it's
Angela Staten: By
Jennifer Mackiewicz: a good
Angela Staten: content
Jennifer Mackiewicz: idea.
Angela Staten: or by channel. Choose by contents or by channels. So And then what did we say just now? Other than this.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: And
Charlie Prather: Mm.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: uh we we have to find a way how to gather information about the contents.
Angela Staten: Okay, so technically how the problems that how to do it is to how to get the content.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Yeah.
Angela Staten: Challenge.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I think i it's not very difficult to to browse by channel but it's a little bit tricky to browse by contents so
Angela Staten: Okay. Content. Okay, so these we have to work it out. So this one of the problem. And uh
Jennifer Mackiewicz: I think that's the the
Angela Staten: The main
Jennifer Mackiewicz: things
Angela Staten: thing.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: to do and uh to
Angela Staten: Okay.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: uh
Angela Staten: Alright.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: reflect about it and uh
Angela Staten: Alright, okay. So
Jennifer Mackiewicz: discuss
Angela Staten: we are
Jennifer Mackiewicz: it
Angela Staten: we'll
Jennifer Mackiewicz: in the next meeting.
Angela Staten: discuss it we will get some information in the next meeting, so for now we get uh the funct this is the functional designer? That's the first aspect. Right. We will get information and then we'll come back in.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Okay. Thank you everybody.
Charlie Prather: Okay.
Angela Staten: Yeah, we'll come.
Charlie Prather: So maybe we'll meet in maybe five minutes? And
Angela Staten: Alright.
Charlie Prather: we'll discuss the other
Angela Staten: Alright, okay.
Charlie Prather: other aspects.
Jennifer Mackiewicz: Okay.
Angela Staten: Thank you,
Charlie Prather: Okay.
Angela Staten: mis
Charlie Prather: Well thank you all. | Charlie Prather introduced the project to the group. The group set an agenda for the meeting and discussed the materials sent to them by the Account Manager. They discussed and explained their roles in the project. The group began a discussion about their initial ideas for the product. They discussed several usability features: adding speech recognition and an option to choose what to watch by channel or by content, reducing the number of buttons by using the television screen to display options, and adding a light adaptation system. All participants were instructed to gather more information for the next meeting, the functional design meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Lois Thomas: Oops That's as far as it goes.
Elena Collins: Hi guys uh good morning everybody here. And uh want to introduce myself, uh my name is uh Shrida Daseri and uh I'm a project manager for this new project which we are going to discuss now. So I want to introduce first of all uh the names and the colleagues here. And what you're uh drawing?
Geraldine Seevers: Uh sure my name is Agnes and user usability user interface designer.
Tiffany Thompson: My name is Ed and I do accounting.
Elena Collins: Uh how you spell your name uh?
Tiffany Thompson: E_D_.
Elena Collins: E_D_ okay.
Tiffany Thompson: Mm.
Elena Collins: And?
Lois Thomas: Do you also do marketing?
Tiffany Thompson: No.
Elena Collins: So only accounting?
Tiffany Thompson: Accounting,
Elena Collins: Okay.
Tiffany Thompson: yes.
Elena Collins: And?
Lois Thomas: And I'm Christine,
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Lois Thomas: and my role in this uh scenario is to be Lois Thomas.
Elena Collins: Industrial designer.
Lois Thomas: But I'm not really one.
Elena Collins: So who is uh marketing, nobody
Tiffany Thompson: Marketing
Elena Collins: in the market
Tiffany Thompson: is uh, is Tiffany Thompson.
Elena Collins: okay. So thanks for coming for the meeting first of all, and uh we have a long time, just twenty-five minutes to discuss about uh this project and the the project initiation. First of all I want to ask uh Mister Ed about your uh marketing plan and your product plan and uh
Tiffany Thompson: Well I think that we'll see that throughout the day in how we're going to put this together as a marketing to to market the product. We'll have to see on a through discussion on where we're gonna go from here and from with this.
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm but uh do you already have like a functional design or a technical design
Tiffany Thompson: Uh
Elena Collins: or
Tiffany Thompson: for the moment not yet.
Elena Collins: Oh for the moment not yet, okay, but uh what's what's your uh do you have some project plan, something with you or
Tiffany Thompson: Good question. No, we have to be discussed between all of us and we'll go from there. We'll have to
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: simply we'll have to work on it together.
Elena Collins: Okay, so uh by when you think you can uh give Tiffany Thompson some kind of uh project plan, okay, a discussion with
Tiffany Thompson: Certainly
Elena Collins: uh
Tiffany Thompson: by the next meeting.
Elena Collins: By next meeting, okay that will be great. Uh Okay, so there's any questions or uh first of all about uh this project?
Lois Thomas: What is the goal of the project?
Elena Collins: Uh the goal of the project I think maybe I'll uh hand out to the Ed, okay, so to explain uh what is the project because he's in the sales and the accounting.
Tiffany Thompson: I'm in the sales I'm supposed to explain them what to do. We have to define exactly what our product is, from uh
Elena Collins: Yes, so can you explain uh what exactly the product is?
Tiffany Thompson: From what I had in mind we're supposed to be marketing coffee, is that right?
Elena Collins: Oh I think
Geraldine Seevers: Um I
Elena Collins: uh,
Geraldine Seevers: was wondering
Elena Collins: if I'm not wrong, we're making the remote control.
Tiffany Thompson: Remote controls, 'cause I had two different things. I had a first part of mine was to make a remote control for a new f remote control for television, and afterward I had a discussion about coffee so
Elena Collins: Yes.
Tiffany Thompson: we'll start with the remote control for television then. So we're have to design something that is very user friendly.
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Geraldine Seevers: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: Something uh visual that has something that will will draw people to buy the product,
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: because I think everybody's experienced with uh remote controls, and some remote controls are are worth uh throwing out the window. Uh th most of them ar I don't know we're have to come up with a new idea on how to make it a lot easier to use,
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: 'cause a lot of times uh spend uh half a day through the instruction book trying to figure out how to use it.
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Geraldine Seevers: Mm.
Elena Collins: And uh what abo uh Christine, what about your uh the industrial design plan? Are you have a design already on this product or uh you're still working on the design?
Lois Thomas: Um no, I I have not begun working on the design,
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Lois Thomas: and um I uh I actually didn't know we were designing a remote control, I thought we were designing a new monitor. Um the website I of a um uh some sort of a seven inch um monitor, and um I understood that that was the project goal. So um I'm glad I didn't d do any work um ahead of time because uh I clearly didn't understand the project goal.
Elena Collins: Okay.
Lois Thomas: Um I just did s see that we were starting a new project together and there was going to be a four member team composed of these people, and um that's about uh that's
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Lois Thomas: and I I read through the different steps, and what my responsibilities were relative to the steps.
Elena Collins: So uh you'll be leading the team for your design team or how many members is working in the team, for the design?
Lois Thomas: Uh for the industrial design?
Elena Collins: Yes.
Lois Thomas: Um well, I would th think that depends on how much money you give us.
Elena Collins: Okay. That's
Lois Thomas: Um because uh, you know, you can uh you can make it uh you have different choices with different financial models.
Elena Collins: Yeah, but uh before we talk about uh the finance, okay, uh do you have some idea how we can uh sell this product or project in the market and how much is going to benefit to the company and uh of course it's to the individual also.
Lois Thomas: Well, you know um, I kind of think that in general you have to do uh um y you have to have something that's very fashionable, that's uh very attractive that um people see and recognize uh its goal, and uh they immediately wanna have it uh have one of their own. So it would really would need to um something like the iPod would be good, seems to have caught on fairly well, so
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Lois Thomas: um d uh you know, I don't care what it does, just so it looks cool.
Elena Collins: Okay, but uh uh when you think you can give Tiffany Thompson like a kind of design on the functional design or the technical design?
Lois Thomas: Well, uh I've got a lot of other projects I'm doing right now um and so I'll have to wait and see how those uh how those go. If they uh go quickly then uh it could be a month. If um if I run into any problems in my other projects it might be six months.
Elena Collins: Yeah, but uh I need something in the writing, so like uh what's your functional design, what's your technical design, and uh how many people you need for this project,
Lois Thomas: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: and what's the time frame you're looking, okay,
Lois Thomas: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: and what is the budget, maybe uh initial budget you're looking, okay, and uh how is going to the market, okay, so you've you've had to meet with the marketing team and how they're going to market and what are the marketing strategic plan, okay, when are you going to introduce, okay, and by the time you introduce the product and uh you know there there would be a competition, okay, so I need some kind of uh uh the plan in the writing from you. Okay, and
Lois Thomas: And
Elena Collins: it's po
Lois Thomas: when would you like that?
Elena Collins: B as soon as possible.
Lois Thomas: Uh well if uh if we have enough time uh then d do you think um two weeks is a is close enough?
Elena Collins: Yes I think uh that would be good, because I need to go to the management and uh tell them what we are going to do, and uh what cost is, okay, and what's the time frame and what's the project plan, because uh without any uh documentations, I cannot go to the management and say, so we are going to do this and we need this much money, okay, so then it's it's difficult for Tiffany Thompson to say, okay, that's the reason I need uh some kind of plan from you, initially, okay, then we can have the further discussion again.
Lois Thomas: Uh are there other people who will be contributing to the plan?
Elena Collins: Yes, of course, if you need some help, uh so let Tiffany Thompson know. So, who are the people you need uh from the marketing or uh the technical side or uh the administration point of view, okay, to add in any documentation, or some technical point of view, so just let Tiffany Thompson know so I can uh coordinate all the teams.
Lois Thomas: Okay, I'll get back to you on that.
Elena Collins: Yes. Thank you. Okay. And uh Ed uh so what's what do you think about uh this uh project for the remote control and d do you have some already planned something for your marketing strategy or uh the sales strategy?
Tiffany Thompson: Well not yet other than uh doing research and taking remote controls and looking what other companies have to do
Elena Collins: Hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: uh, what they're building, their designs, their ideas, uh also have to pinpoint which market we're gonna go into.
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: It should be a fairly large market because uh the number of people that uh the competition,
Elena Collins: Mm-hmm.
Tiffany Thompson: uh th I agree it has to be something it has to be something new, it has to be something that that draws people saying eh, I like this. Whether it works or not, they have to first say I like this, I like the design, and then it's gotta be simple to use.
Elena Collins: Yes, so what I uh prefer maybe uh you need to interact uh more with the Christine, okay, because you know what she is going to do it, okay, and you know how to sell it. Okay, because uh she is doing the design, but
Tiffany Thompson: Yeah.
Elena Collins: you are the core because you are in the marketing, okay, so because you need to sell and you're the responsible for the all the money, the finance, okay,
Tiffany Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: tomorrow. So, what I prefer,
Tiffany Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: and uh you need to come up with some kind of plan, okay, how we are going to do the your sales plan, okay,
Tiffany Thompson: Do we
Elena Collins: th
Tiffany Thompson: already have a cost limit on this, th an idea of how much uh we
Elena Collins: Th
Tiffany Thompson: want to market this for,
Elena Collins: That
Tiffany Thompson: how much it's
Elena Collins: that's
Tiffany Thompson: gonna sell for, that's up that's up to us to decide,
Elena Collins: Yes, that's
Tiffany Thompson: eh?
Elena Collins: you have to decide, okay, so the best thing is you uh both of uh the Christine and you discuss with yourself, okay, and come up with the cost, and how we are going to compete in the market, okay, in the the technically, or in the sales wise, okay, the commercial wise, okay. Then uh we have to design, okay, how long it will take the whole project, okay, how much is going to cost us, and how much we are going to benefit for the company. Okay, of course it's it's uh of benefit for everybody individually. Okay, so I think it's uh maybe if we can uh give Tiffany Thompson some kind of your uh the sales plan, okay, including the technical what uh she's going to talk to you within the team, okay, then it will help Tiffany Thompson to discuss with the management for further, okay, and put it in the the proper project plan. Okay,
Tiffany Thompson: Very good.
Elena Collins: and if you need uh any coordination in between uh compared to the maybe the some technical vendors or commercial vendors, okay, depends if you want to have some uh uh marketing plan or technical plan, okay, so you let Tiffany Thompson know. Okay, I can
Tiffany Thompson: Very
Elena Collins: coordinate,
Tiffany Thompson: good.
Elena Collins: or maybe uh, you are my coordinator, am I right?
Geraldine Seevers: Mm.
Elena Collins: Between uh all
Geraldine Seevers: Well,
Elena Collins: the coor
Geraldine Seevers: no, not exactly. I mean my job from what I understood was to look at the usability requirements and make sure that the product is usable, it's acceptable to the people who are gonna use it and look at the best ways to do that.
Elena Collins: Yeah. Th Christine, yeah.
Geraldine Seevers: my
Elena Collins: Which is
Geraldine Seevers: studies will show right off the bat that it's not going to work, and so it's sort of it's a loop that feeds in, but I don't think necessarily that I'm
Elena Collins: Yes.
Geraldine Seevers: in a coordinating position
Elena Collins: Yeah,
Geraldine Seevers: for
Elena Collins: so
Geraldine Seevers: it.
Elena Collins: basically you need to interact with Christine more, okay, for the user acceptability,
Geraldine Seevers: Yeah.
Elena Collins: okay, and the testing, okay,
Geraldine Seevers: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: then you
Geraldine Seevers: Which will
Elena Collins: will
Geraldine Seevers: also feed into the marketing,
Elena Collins: Yes.
Geraldine Seevers: because depending on what users want, depends on how you sell it,
Elena Collins: Yes.
Geraldine Seevers: what tag lines you attach
Elena Collins: Yeah.
Geraldine Seevers: to it, how you try
Elena Collins: Yeah.
Geraldine Seevers: to make it more attractive
Elena Collins: Yeah.
Geraldine Seevers: to users. So I think all three groups will need to interact quite a bit. Um, and then I guess build the plan based on all of that, because I think you need to take all the factors into account.
Elena Collins: Yep. But what I request, okay, keep Ed in the loop, okay,
Geraldine Seevers: Yeah, of
Elena Collins: in
Geraldine Seevers: course.
Elena Collins: between your uh meeting and Christine meeting, because uh he should know what's happening.
Geraldine Seevers: Yeah, we can C_C_
Elena Collins: Yes.
Geraldine Seevers: him on any
Elena Collins: Okay
Geraldine Seevers: discussions
Elena Collins: and
Geraldine Seevers: or
Elena Collins: please
Geraldine Seevers: documents
Elena Collins: please
Geraldine Seevers: that
Elena Collins: copy
Geraldine Seevers: are passed
Elena Collins: all
Geraldine Seevers: around.
Elena Collins: the mails, okay, all the discussions to Tiffany Thompson, okay,
Geraldine Seevers: Sure.
Elena Collins: so I need to submit to the management.
Geraldine Seevers: No problem.
Elena Collins: So any questions for uh time being?
Tiffany Thompson: No.
Geraldine Seevers: So, the immediate next step is to start determining the functional design,
Elena Collins: Yes.
Geraldine Seevers: or okay.
Elena Collins: Okay. To come up with the functional design and uh to discuss with Ed, okay, and how it's going to be work, and uh first of all with your user acceptance,
Geraldine Seevers: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: okay, how it looks like and how it's going to be work in the market, okay, so then we can discuss about uh further things.
Geraldine Seevers: Okay.
Elena Collins: So, we'll meet when the we'll discuss on the further meeting. It's okay?
Geraldine Seevers: Mm-hmm.
Elena Collins: Thanks for coming.
Lois Thomas: Would you mind um at the conclusion of our meeting could could you send us a copy of your slides?
Elena Collins: Yes,
Geraldine Seevers: Mm-hmm,
Elena Collins: I
Geraldine Seevers: yeah,
Elena Collins: will.
Geraldine Seevers: that would be useful.
Elena Collins: Yes. I'll copy, uh le let us keep all the emails and all the copies, okay, share each other, okay, so you know everybody what's happening,
Geraldine Seevers: Sure.
Elena Collins: okay? And if anything you need anytime so please either you can call Tiffany Thompson, or just send Tiffany Thompson email, or uh just come and uh knock my door, okay, so I'm available here. It's good?
Geraldine Seevers: Okay.
Elena Collins: Okay,
Lois Thomas: Thank you.
Elena Collins: thanks
Geraldine Seevers: Thanks.
Elena Collins: for coming and uh I wish you a nice time then.
Geraldine Seevers: Thank you.
Elena Collins: Okay, see you later. Bye. | The group introduced themselves to each other and discussed their roles in the project. Elena Collins opened a discussion about the project plan and asked Tiffany Thompson to prepare an overall plan for the project. Tiffany Thompson presented the initial aim of the project: the creation of a fresh, user-friendly remote control device. Elena Collins asked Lois Thomas to create a functional design plan for the device, then asked Tiffany Thompson about ideas for the sales strategy. Tiffany Thompson presented an initial sales plan: to analyze the competition and to pinpoint the target marketing group. Elena Collins instructed all participants to work together on their respective design plans. Elena Collins decided that the design plans will be discussed at the next meeting, and that the next step will be to come up with a functional design of the device. | 0 | amisum | test |
Ashley Smith: Okay, is everybody ready?
Rose Bayer: Yeah?
Valencia Smith: Yeah I'd to just put on my microphone here and I'll be right with you.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Okay?
Ashley Smith: Um I take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed to do
Rose Bayer: Mm?
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Ashley Smith: and um I think the Marketing Manager probably should go first, addressing the needs and desires.
Valencia Smith: Okay you want Valencia Smith to start right now?
Ashley Smith: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Okay. Well, could you um put my slides up 'cause I think it might be helpful if uh we looked at the slides at the same time.
Ashley Smith: Okay.
Ashley Smith: You're participant four.
Valencia Smith: I'm participant four I believe. Yes uh-huh. 'Kay.
Ashley Smith: Okay, and now I can uh full screen.
Rose Bayer: Open.
Ashley Smith: Uh, okay, okay.
Valencia Smith: There we go. Okay well I think
Rose Bayer: And then full
Valencia Smith: we
Rose Bayer: screen
Valencia Smith: have introduced ourselves, so the functional requirements are is is part of my goal but why don't we pass right to the second slide. Cause that's where m my discussion starts. Right well um since I'm in charge of trying to figure out what we should put on this thing since I have to try to sell it.
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Um I thought that the method I should follow would be gather suggestions from everybody, and th the reason I just put that there like that is that uh in the init in the initial stage I think I should just be open to lots of suggestions. You know you can say anything you want no matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car, it should heat up your motor if should um turn on your C_D_ whatever you want it
Rose Bayer: 'Kay.
Valencia Smith: to do um and then as we go on what we'll have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestions according to um design and budget feasibility. So I'll be coming to you um frequently as the Industrial Expert
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: to tell Valencia Smith how hard it's gonna be
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: to add a feature or how expensive
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: it's gonna be
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: or if your time, if it takes five years
Rose Bayer: Hmm
Valencia Smith: to develop this
Rose Bayer: hmm.
Valencia Smith: it's just something we can't
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Valencia Smith: do. So in the beginning just have a big puddle
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: of things that we anybody can th throw anything in and then just weed things out that can't be done for one reason or another, and then the things that seem the most attractive that to uh to a customer
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: we'll try to then prioritise those.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: So that was um what I meant there, and as I said on the slide there consulting the Industrial Engineer about that and the other thing is timing is really gonna be as important as money, because if we're gonna sell this thing, I think the best time to sell it is as a Christmas present. Twenty five Euros makes a nice little present, and we want it to be an impulse purchase, we
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Valencia Smith: want somebody to see it and think it's, gee I just gotta have that. And take out their wallet and buy it. So it's gotta be really attractive and it but it's gotta go to market by September, 'cause anything that you don't already have out there in September showing it around, isn't
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: gonna sell for Christmas. Um and then I'll be coming to you as the User Interface person to try to tell Valencia Smith from your point of view what are the most friendly features that we could put on it and try to prior help Valencia Smith with that prioritising
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Valencia Smith: of uh of the features and of the the look and the colour and I'll be coming back to you to help weed out those suggestions from that point of view.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Valencia Smith: So I'll be coming to you for how much is it gonna cost us and how long is it gonna take
Rose Bayer: Mm
Valencia Smith: you,
Rose Bayer: mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: and I'll be coming to you to tell Valencia Smith what's gonna make
Branda Noyes: What
Valencia Smith: somebody
Branda Noyes: features.
Valencia Smith: take out their wallet you know, what what's what's gonna really be what they call a sizzle, 'cause we gotta
Branda Noyes: S.
Valencia Smith: sell this sizzle.
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: A lot of times the thing that works the best from an engineering point of view isn't the thing that somebody's really just gonna take out their wallet and buy for Christmas for for their child or for
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: their husband or whatever. Okay can we go to the next slide please? Alright I I already did a little bit of research after our first meeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to Valencia Smith that within the budget that we're looking at the uh the whole house idea really isn't gonna be possible. So I'd like your suggestions to come back to the other slide where I was saying we we could suggest anything. I'd like the suggestions to be really specific, so that we'll have a list of things we can cross off, not something like you know whole house control what'll be And then I found on the internet from from my research that some extended electronic entertainment control should be possible. At the budget that we're looking at and at the price point we're looking at, we should be able to make it work the T_V_, the V_C_R_, the stereo set um maybe something else cute like a coffee pot or one other appliance
Ashley Smith: Uh okay,
Valencia Smith: or maybe
Ashley Smith: can
Valencia Smith: a lamp.
Ashley Smith: can I
Valencia Smith: I
Ashley Smith: at
Valencia Smith: have
Ashley Smith: this
Valencia Smith: to wind
Ashley Smith: point
Valencia Smith: up?
Ashley Smith: interject um
Valencia Smith: Yeah, sure.
Ashley Smith: something? Um we have received instruction from higher up that certain things should uh considered.
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Ashley Smith: Um the one thing for example something to eliminate maybe that's the teletext, because that's sort of outdated
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Ashley Smith: with the internet,
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: and according to to higher management the it should only control the T_V_, mostly because they feel that it's too comp complex a task
Rose Bayer: Complicated,
Ashley Smith: to
Rose Bayer: yeah, of course.
Ashley Smith: um to to include other things, and they are concerned with the time to market.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: Of course, yeah.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: Okay. Um
Valencia Smith: Okay, so that's
Ashley Smith: and
Valencia Smith: something
Ashley Smith: the and the third thing that they wanna make sure um that their that the corporate image is being maintained, and that the corporate colour and design are being used on the product, so that it's easy that that that they can be easily identified as a product of of of the company, and that there's no mistake that it
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: could be somebody else who is bringing this out. So I just wanted to interject this here so we're not getting too much off track here with uh with the things we wanna look at. These were instructions from higher up so we have to eliminate uh these things, so it's
Valencia Smith: Okay
Ashley Smith: only
Valencia Smith: so
Ashley Smith: gonna be T_V_, but the one thing maybe that could be um eliminated is the teletext uh idea.
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Ashley Smith: Mm 'kay.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Valencia Smith: Alright, thanks for that. Um alright now other things that I found out on in my research is that the complaints that people have about the remote controls that are out there now. 'Cause a lot of them take too much time to learn how to use, and that was thirty four percent but even more important the thing that we did address in our last meeting that frequently it's lost somewhere in the room. definitely do wanna address, uh we wanna s make it as simple as possible, we wanna make it um obvious and intuitive to use, and then the things about finding it we talked about the a light emitting thing as well as uh maybe a beep, and I think that those are things after my research that we definitely wanna try to incorporate. 'Kay can we go to the next slide please? Okay, so, my personal preferences in this um project are really have to concentrate on the sizzle. That is the selling point, the thing that's gonna make it an impulse purchase. Uh because once there's no be-back, well in sales they always say you know, be-backs don't come back. If somebody says, oh I'll come back and get it next week you're dead. They're never gonna come back and buy it. You've gotta make it attractive enough so they buy it now now now w now is a big word in in my book for selling this thing. And, in order to make it really sellable we've gotta shorten the learning curve, make sure it's really intuitive and easy to use. We have to have as few buttons as possible, because more buttons is more confusion, so that's why I'm saying, simplicity is good. Finding it's important, obviously you can't use it if you can't find it. So we've gotta concentrate on the features that help you find it, and I've already said this several times but I put it down in writing here, it should be an attractive impulse purchase at twenty five Euros. So it has to have enough value that when somebody looks at it they say, uh twenty five Euros I'm not gonna take that. Has to be so great that they're gonna say, uh twenty five Euros isn't much. Um and then maybe a motto, like we put fashion in electronics might be something we can use in our marketing campaign.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: Okay that's uh about it for Valencia Smith right now.
Ashley Smith: Okay. And uh who would be next, uh, I guess that would be you.
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: 'kay.
Ashley Smith: You want Valencia Smith to get your
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Ashley Smith: slide show
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: up?
Rose Bayer: sure.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: Thank you.
Ashley Smith: And you are number three?
Rose Bayer: Number two,
Ashley Smith: Number
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Ashley Smith: two.
Rose Bayer: Yeah exactly.
Ashley Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: Uh can you
Ashley Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: make it uh full screen please?
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm. Yep.
Rose Bayer: No, it's like a well you you have to press here. cup shape here?
Ashley Smith: Yeah yeah, uh-huh.
Rose Bayer: The thir third. Yeah
Ashley Smith: There, mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: exactly. Uh so today I'm going to talk about the working design of the remote controller.
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: Um can you go to the next sli slide please?
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: The metal is like uh in a remote controller you have a chip integrated circuit which is like a brain of the remote controller. It takes the power from a battery say a battery it it can be a elec an electric supply like you have to uh like uh switch connec connect connect your remote controller to uh power supply from the you know electricity or something like that. It should be a battery because uh uh remote controller should be like you you you should take it t to wherever you want
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: and then um uh th this integrated circuitry takes energy from the power source and whatever like if you press a button it's like a input for the remote controller and it takes the input and it it transforms into a infro infrared bits and it sends it into the device, like a T_V_ or a air conditioner, something like that so. Uh a remote controller is specifically designed to a single device. If you want to design it for multiple devices then you should make all the devices compatible with the frequency like uh th the remote controller it sends some bits some uh waves like with a particular frequency the device should know what the frequency is. It should re re recognise the uh waves which are coming from the remote controller and it should take the action like if you press a button channel or something like that then uh the remote uh remote controller will send a send a se send
Valencia Smith: Signal.
Rose Bayer: a signal, and the T_V_ it should translate
Branda Noyes: Receive.
Rose Bayer: that into like change the channel or something
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: like that, change the volume control
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: and uh so uh I think it's hard to design a remote controller for multiple uh devices.
Branda Noyes: Multi-purpose.
Valencia Smith: Yeah well
Ashley Smith: Yo
Valencia Smith: that's
Ashley Smith: and
Valencia Smith: already
Ashley Smith: it's
Valencia Smith: been eliminated
Ashley Smith: yeah
Valencia Smith: by management,
Rose Bayer: Uh yeah.
Ashley Smith: but
Valencia Smith: so
Ashley Smith: it's so.
Valencia Smith: we're off the hook.
Rose Bayer: Um.
Ashley Smith: Yep.
Rose Bayer: So uh user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages like there should be a user user in interface like you know switch pad or something like that buttons should be there. So uh you can control whatever you want, you want to change the channel you want to control the volume you you want to uh mute uh mute the uh T_V_ or you want to have a child lock or you want to do some operations there's a there should be some device to tell what to do to the uh in uh integrated circuit so that
Valencia Smith: Mm
Rose Bayer: the
Valencia Smith: okay.
Rose Bayer: integrated circuit can s send the signals and T_V_ can perform the actions. So can you go to the next
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: slide please? So I I just would like to uh add some extra features to the remote controller
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: um I think these are the very simple features and uh they don't take much uh uh much of the um um investment also, it's like el the text or buttons which uh which are there on the uh remote controller they those we can make uh um like fluorescent
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: uh they'll be like light emitting if it is dark so that you can find your remote controller if it is dark. And ther there should be a beep if many buttons are pressed if suppose a child is playing with the remote controller and a and she she or he is pressing the buttons all at the time then there should be a beep saying that it's this this is not a a you know a a action, there can be no action taking to that so. And there should be a child lock, like uh uh you should be able to lock your remote controller so that uh um whatever buttons are pressed by a child they can't be like y you i you if you have ki kids and all then they'll be pl playing with the remote controllers so can lock the remote controller. If make it useable for more than one device it's a it's hard but I
Ashley Smith: Yeah
Rose Bayer: think
Ashley Smith: well
Rose Bayer: it's possible
Ashley Smith: yeah
Valencia Smith: Well
Ashley Smith: well
Rose Bayer: but
Ashley Smith: that
Valencia Smith: we already
Ashley Smith: has
Rose Bayer: it
Ashley Smith: been e
Rose Bayer: uh yeah
Ashley Smith: that
Valencia Smith: eliminated
Ashley Smith: has
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: been eliminated,
Branda Noyes: Eliminated.
Valencia Smith: that.
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: so that's
Rose Bayer: so
Ashley Smith: that's
Rose Bayer: it's it's
Ashley Smith: unfortunately
Rose Bayer: okay, yeah,
Ashley Smith: a moot point
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Ashley Smith: now. Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: And uh different shapes that we can do like uh we can have you know a all animals shapes or you know comfortable uh whi which can fit into your hands and um
Valencia Smith: Now
Rose Bayer: so
Valencia Smith: that's
Rose Bayer: that
Valencia Smith: good
Rose Bayer: uh
Valencia Smith: from a marketing point of view, the
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: fun
Rose Bayer: yeah,
Valencia Smith: the fun
Rose Bayer: yeah
Valencia Smith: shape.
Rose Bayer: and colours also, different
Ashley Smith: Yeah
Valencia Smith: And that
Ashley Smith: I
Branda Noyes: Mm-hmm
Rose Bayer: colours,
Valencia Smith: you
Branda Noyes: colours.
Valencia Smith: you
Rose Bayer: and
Valencia Smith: say that won't add too much to the budget? To
Rose Bayer: No no
Valencia Smith: d
Rose Bayer: no, it
Valencia Smith: the shape
Rose Bayer: won't uh
Valencia Smith: is
Rose Bayer: I
Valencia Smith: uh
Rose Bayer: don't think it will be like, you can have you know for uh if you want
Ashley Smith: It just
Rose Bayer: ther
Ashley Smith: build
Rose Bayer: there
Ashley Smith: a mould
Rose Bayer: to be more
Ashley Smith: basically and
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Ashley Smith: uh
Rose Bayer: yeah. It's
Ashley Smith: you
Branda Noyes: Yes
Rose Bayer: it's
Ashley Smith: know.
Rose Bayer: just
Branda Noyes: exactly.
Rose Bayer: a s shape so it doesn't matter.
Ashley Smith: As the budget we're looking at if you build one mould I don't think
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: that's going to make a big difference whether it's gonna be square or
Valencia Smith: Do you think there's any chance of um having ser in having basically the same machine with the same buttons but maybe several different shapes?
Rose Bayer: Yeah that is also
Ashley Smith: Oh yes.
Rose Bayer: possible I
Valencia Smith: Is that
Rose Bayer: uh
Valencia Smith: gonna
Rose Bayer: yeah
Valencia Smith: be
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: a
Rose Bayer: I
Valencia Smith: possible?
Rose Bayer: I
Valencia Smith: 'Cause
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: that
Ashley Smith: I
Valencia Smith: might
Ashley Smith: think
Valencia Smith: help with the marketing.
Ashley Smith: I think we will have to look
Rose Bayer: Yeah that
Ashley Smith: at the
Rose Bayer: will
Ashley Smith: budget
Rose Bayer: be
Ashley Smith: on that but I think in principle that that would be that would be kind of fun,
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Valencia Smith: Because
Ashley Smith: you know.
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: we had something sort of sexy
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: for adults and
Ashley Smith: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: we could have something sort of
Ashley Smith: Silly for
Valencia Smith: silly
Ashley Smith: children.
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: for
Rose Bayer: for
Valencia Smith: children
Rose Bayer: children,
Ashley Smith: Like
Valencia Smith: or a
Ashley Smith: an
Valencia Smith: little
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: animal
Rose Bayer: exactly.
Valencia Smith: animal
Branda Noyes: Like
Ashley Smith: or
Valencia Smith: shape
Branda Noyes: a doll,
Valencia Smith: or
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: in
Rose Bayer: that's
Valencia Smith: a
Branda Noyes: or
Rose Bayer: what,
Ashley Smith: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: or a
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: little elephant so they can remember where it is.
Rose Bayer: Yeah, exactly.
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Rose Bayer: Yeah. And and If there are more buttons then it will be more complicated. If you have less features then your remote controller won't be attractive, so I think uh we need to make some buttons which are which are like um uh f in uh in intended for two or three operations, like if you press one button in one mode then it will change the channel, if you press the other button in another mode it will change the colour. So if you want to have less
Valencia Smith: Mm.
Rose Bayer: buttons we can have that option but I think it will complicate the matter more I think
Valencia Smith: Well,
Rose Bayer: so.
Valencia Smith: I think I think that that's something that we'll have to discuss um
Rose Bayer: Yep,
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: with the User
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: Interface person because I think there's a lot of argument to be made for one button for one feature. Because I think one of the things were complaining about in my what I found out in my research is when they complained about how hard it is to learn a new one.
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: The changing modes was something
Rose Bayer: Yeah, it's like you
Valencia Smith: I
Rose Bayer: know
Valencia Smith: mean you
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: and I, all f all four of us we work
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: with computers all
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: the time,
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: changing
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Valencia Smith: modes is nothing for us, but people who
Ashley Smith: Yeah, a little elderly, a little arthritic hand
Valencia Smith: N
Ashley Smith: you
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: know,
Valencia Smith: and
Ashley Smith: and and it's a small button and and
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: it they don't press it exactly you know something else happens n not their favourite channel comes up but something
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Ashley Smith: else
Branda Noyes: Something
Rose Bayer: yes.
Ashley Smith: and they're
Branda Noyes: else.
Ashley Smith: very
Valencia Smith: And
Ashley Smith: frustrated
Valencia Smith: that's and that's
Ashley Smith: you
Valencia Smith: the kind
Ashley Smith: know.
Valencia Smith: of thing people learn by feel, and um
Rose Bayer: Yeah, yeah you don't
Valencia Smith: you don't
Rose Bayer: us
Valencia Smith: feel
Rose Bayer: yeah
Valencia Smith: the
Rose Bayer: yeah,
Valencia Smith: mode
Rose Bayer: usually.
Valencia Smith: change.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: So um maybe having buttons be various shapes might be a help
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Valencia Smith: too.
Rose Bayer: shapes also, different
Valencia Smith: You
Rose Bayer: shapes.
Valencia Smith: know, like the
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Valencia Smith: a
Rose Bayer: that
Valencia Smith: triangle
Rose Bayer: will
Valencia Smith: is for the
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: volume and a square is for changing channels,
Branda Noyes: Channels.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: so that people can
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: uh develop a tactile sense of it. But
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: we'll get
Ashley Smith: Mm,
Valencia Smith: to that with you.
Ashley Smith: mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: yeah, and
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Rose Bayer: also text should be very clear so that there there won't be any ambiguities
Valencia Smith: That's
Rose Bayer: and
Valencia Smith: right,
Rose Bayer: uh
Valencia Smith: yeah. Now that's
Rose Bayer: So
Valencia Smith: a good point.
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Rose Bayer: yeah. And uh display clock i if you want more features then we can display a clock it I I don't think it will take any money extra money because anyway we have an integrated circuit I think we can just definitely fit that feature into the circuit so
Valencia Smith: Yeah,
Rose Bayer: it's
Valencia Smith: that's that's a good that's a good
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm,
Valencia Smith: one,
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Branda Noyes: Mm
Valencia Smith: because
Rose Bayer: and
Branda Noyes: yeah.
Rose Bayer: we display
Ashley Smith: mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: the clock
Rose Bayer: a clock.
Valencia Smith: would be really friendly,
Ashley Smith: Yes.
Valencia Smith: and and
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: when is your favourite show
Ashley Smith: Yes.
Valencia Smith: coming
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: on
Rose Bayer: and
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Ashley Smith: Yeah
Rose Bayer: then you
Ashley Smith: you're
Rose Bayer: can
Ashley Smith: sitting
Rose Bayer: just
Valencia Smith: and
Ashley Smith: there
Rose Bayer: see your
Ashley Smith: already
Rose Bayer: remote
Ashley Smith: or maybe
Rose Bayer: controller
Ashley Smith: you have
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: no
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: other
Rose Bayer: yeah so
Valencia Smith: Yeah, and a lot
Ashley Smith: uh
Valencia Smith: of time there's not a clock on the screen, and you have
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: to go somewhere but you just wanna look at the news for a minute. Yeah that's that's good, the clock is good.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: Uh can you go to the next
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: slide please? Uh components uh the main components we need for uh it ha like buttons and uh underneath that there should be switch. And uh bulbs. Like uh we can have a bulb like whenever we are operating a remote controller or uh whenever the T_V_ is on suppose,
Branda Noyes: Hmm.
Rose Bayer: then the remote controller should automatically have a b s light.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: Then it will be like if you switch on your T_V_ through anoth another source, not from through a remote remote controller and you you lost your remote controller maybe you can find with the light.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: Maybe we can have that. Whenever the T_V_ is on, remote controller will have a light.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: And then uh infrared bulbs.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: Um this is like uh when it is dark.
Ashley Smith: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: And battery, there should be a battery for power supply, and
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: a chip, chip which is like a brain to the remote
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: controller which does all the operations, and wires connecting all chips, which is uh lights, everything,
Ashley Smith: Yeah.
Rose Bayer: so there should
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Rose Bayer: be wires. And uh uh of course there should be a case where we can keep all the things and, you know different shapes or whatever it is there should be a case to put to give
Branda Noyes: To
Rose Bayer: a
Branda Noyes: keep
Rose Bayer: shape.
Branda Noyes: the remote?
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Branda Noyes: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: Case.
Branda Noyes: A case holder.
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Branda Noyes: A holder
Rose Bayer: holder.
Branda Noyes: remote
Ashley Smith: Holder,
Branda Noyes: holder.
Ashley Smith: yeah, mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: Um uh can you move onto the next slide. Um next sli slide please. Um I have referred the site uh the homepage of the um our website, uh from where I have uh uh I got s few points.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: That's it, that's it from Valencia Smith now.
Ashley Smith: Okay.
Valencia Smith: So it um we should visit this site and have a look at uh what's
Rose Bayer: Um.
Valencia Smith: up there? Or
Ashley Smith: Well, you don't have to.
Rose Bayer: Uh it's not like that, I have referred the page to get new ideas or like
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: what can be the working design to how it works and all and
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Rose Bayer: so and so.
Valencia Smith: So it might be helpful if we had a look at that.
Rose Bayer: Yeah if you want.
Valencia Smith: Okay,
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: thank
Rose Bayer: it's
Valencia Smith: you.
Rose Bayer: okay.
Valencia Smith: Could you go back to that slide where she had that uh s slide up Betsy?
Rose Bayer: Uh, it's actually there now, there on the screen.
Ashley Smith: This one?
Valencia Smith: Yeah, okay, thank you.
Ashley Smith: And Francine?
Branda Noyes: Participant two.
Ashley Smith: You are
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Ashley Smith: number two?
Branda Noyes: No no, I'm three.
Ashley Smith: You're three.
Branda Noyes: I can?
Ashley Smith: Would you want it
Branda Noyes: Yes
Ashley Smith: full full
Branda Noyes: yes
Ashley Smith: screen? Mm-hmm?
Branda Noyes: yes.
Ashley Smith: Okay.
Branda Noyes: Okay. As uh User Interface Designer I did a little research to find out what are the features which a user would like to have on their remote.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Yeah can you please go onto the next
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: slide? So I found out that uh but uh the main purpose of a remote is to uh f control the function of a television at a far off distance at remote distance. Now for that, uh a remote controller should have a switch on off button by which a user can sit anywhere in the room in front
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: of the T_V_ and he can control the functionalities different functionalities of the T_V_. There should be a signal uh something like a radio wave or a infrared light or a LED which can be used to change the different functionalities in the television if the user wants to uh change the channels or increase the volume he can change it.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Now there should be some timer to set for viewing a particular a particular programme or switching on and off a uh a particular programme according to the user
Ashley Smith: On
Branda Noyes: choice.
Ashley Smith: the on on the remote.
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Ashley Smith: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Yes. So if if he want to view a particular programme
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: at say nine o'clock
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: he can set the time,
Ashley Smith: Right.
Branda Noyes: and the T_V_ will automatically it will switch on at that particular time.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: So he can use that kind of uh uh properties of features and then there should be a child lock system if a particular channel is not to be
Ashley Smith: Yes.
Branda Noyes: viewed by a particular uh for
Ashley Smith: By
Branda Noyes: a
Ashley Smith: your child,
Branda Noyes: certain
Ashley Smith: mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: age, then the parents can lock that particular channel so that the ch children cannot view that
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: channel.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: And uh the uh the uh and the one of the feature a user would like to have is the compactness of the co remote.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Uh t the remote should be compact and it should ha it should have as many buttons as possible for controlling different functionalities of the T_V_ television. And um uh as uh uh this is my personal preference that it should be in the shape of a T_ in alphabet for more compactability.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: And uh and uh and it is one more point which I noted it down, like uh the material which which which is used for remotes should be human friendly it should not cause any skin disease or something some al allergy
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: to either children or to um
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: ad
Valencia Smith: Mm,
Branda Noyes: adult
Valencia Smith: 'kay.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: person. And it should have an uh it can have an alarm clock a a person if some if somebody wants to get up at around
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Branda Noyes: eight eight P_M_ then he can set the time and it can be used as an alarm clock,
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: and I don't think it will cost much to set an alarm clock inside a
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Branda Noyes: remote.
Rose Bayer: sure.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: If there is a clock then there can be a
Valencia Smith: And an
Rose Bayer: alarm
Valencia Smith: alarm
Branda Noyes: Yes,
Valencia Smith: clock,
Rose Bayer: clock.
Valencia Smith: yeah
Branda Noyes: and
Valencia Smith: that should
Branda Noyes: as
Valencia Smith: that should
Branda Noyes: John Reece
Valencia Smith: be okay.
Branda Noyes: said the buttons can be, uh can Valencia Smith we can use the fluorescence to light up the buttons so different uh buttons will glow differently. So in even in the dark the user can know what buttons to use to switch on a particular channel. And uh uh the design of the uh um remote should be in such a way that there should not be any sharp projections so that if a child plays with a remote, he
Rose Bayer: Hmm.
Branda Noyes: uh he should not be harmed in any way. And findings, uh I found out uh y um on different sites that uh there are different remotes which can be used, there are remotes which use the infrared for controlling the different functionalities, there are remotes which use the radio waves to control the functions and there are uh So uh there you have different uh types of remotes for different light source which are used which can be used for controlling the different functionalities of a television.
Branda Noyes: Next slide. And these are my few personal preferences like it can be used for a multipurpose use. Not, uh no uh like it can it can be used as a T_V_ control as plus an alarm clock to set an alarm a timing and it should have a child lock, and then to save electricity uh there should not be uh much s move uh lots of circuits and all that. And if a person if if if parents wants the television to be switched off by ten o'clock then it should be switched off ten o at ten o'clock automatically, so that nobody else comes later
Rose Bayer: It's like
Branda Noyes: and
Rose Bayer: a
Branda Noyes: use it.
Rose Bayer: t okay, it's like a timer
Ashley Smith: Timer, yeah,
Branda Noyes: Timer.
Ashley Smith: mm-hmm,
Rose Bayer: it's
Ashley Smith: mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: like a lock
Branda Noyes: Yeah
Rose Bayer: to
Branda Noyes: and
Rose Bayer: the television.
Branda Noyes: then you can use a timer as well. Yes. Yeah that's it.
Ashley Smith: Uh okay, now I have
Ashley Smith: On my slide show basically we already we have already done the agenda, and uh on the closing uh basically there will be lunch break and all that. However uh the decision we have to take in this meeting is who is our target group.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: And uh what function, working design, how how does it work. So these are the two things we should come up wit with. So uh the first thing is pro maybe a little easier on uh who is our target group. Um. I guess in many ways everybody. Everybody
Rose Bayer: Mm,
Ashley Smith: who has a T_V_.
Rose Bayer: T_V_,
Branda Noyes: T_V_
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Branda Noyes: television we was.
Ashley Smith: Yeah, and I think today there are probably not many people who don't
Rose Bayer: Don't
Ashley Smith: have a T_V_.
Rose Bayer: T_V_,
Ashley Smith: There
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Ashley Smith: are a few but in general not. Now, talking about the target group which is in a sense everybody, but I think within the target group we have subgroups. We have we have earlier it was mentioned about um for example elderly people
Branda Noyes: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: who have limited function with their fingers and hands,
Rose Bayer: Hmm.
Ashley Smith: so I think that's uh one group that's certainly important. Um then we have just the nervous people who can never press a little button on anything um unless it's really very clear.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: And uh I don't know how much we want to cater to children's use. I mean that's a question um whether that's important that children can really use it or not.
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Ashley Smith: So this these are just some thoughts I have on it,
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: group we're gonna design this one thing
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: or whether we're looking at what we like we we talking about different shapes,
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: whether that different shape also includes maybe different uh buttons
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: uh for different groups.
Valencia Smith: Well you know there's the old motto, children under six never shop alone.
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Valencia Smith: So if you've designed something that's very attractive to children um the mummy please mummy please um you know we want it now we wanna go to the store and see it um that has uh a lot of
Ashley Smith: That has
Valencia Smith: marketing
Ashley Smith: a lot of
Valencia Smith: pull.
Ashley Smith: that has a lot of
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Ashley Smith: appeal but I think uh I'm I'm talking about the functionality now on it whether we're looking at different groups. I think the children issue can be addressed with the shape
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: and with colours.
Valencia Smith: That's
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Branda Noyes: Different
Valencia Smith: right.
Ashley Smith: You
Branda Noyes: colours.
Ashley Smith: know, like you make it nice and pink, fluorescent, banana colour
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Ashley Smith: or whatever
Valencia Smith: You can make a banana
Ashley Smith: you
Valencia Smith: shaped
Ashley Smith: know
Valencia Smith: one.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: yeah, for example you know.
Rose Bayer: Mm.
Ashley Smith: But the question is really, who is our target group.
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: Do we look at one target group? And with the twenty five Euros you know can we can we afford to have uh I'm asking the technical people here whether um to look at sort of subgroups with maybe different buttons for each group how much would that throw us out of the cost we are supposed to
Valencia Smith: Respect.
Ashley Smith: respect?
Valencia Smith: Mm.
Branda Noyes: Okay. No uh generally we can we can design a remote which is mainly for people with uh f age from ten to um forty
Ashley Smith: Right.
Branda Noyes: and and then we can add on uh specific functional buttons for children as well as the elderly people or the people wit
Ashley Smith: With
Branda Noyes: with
Ashley Smith: with
Branda Noyes: who have nervous problems,
Ashley Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: yes.
Rose Bayer: We can design different remotes for different people, like for aged people there will be big buttons and you
Ashley Smith: Well
Branda Noyes: But
Rose Bayer: know.
Branda Noyes: in
Ashley Smith: that's
Branda Noyes: a
Ashley Smith: that's
Branda Noyes: family
Rose Bayer: yeah. Children and everybody, yeah.
Branda Noyes: They would like to buy just one and um just one which can be used all the three
Rose Bayer: Yeah
Branda Noyes: uh
Rose Bayer: of course that we can do, but specifically if y if like elderly people want big buttons then you can't really make a bi big remote controller so maybe specifically you can design a big con remote controller for elderly and for children,
Valencia Smith: What
Rose Bayer: like
Valencia Smith: about
Rose Bayer: in a
Valencia Smith: the
Rose Bayer: different
Valencia Smith: electronics?
Rose Bayer: you know.
Valencia Smith: That's
Ashley Smith: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: not really gonna change
Branda Noyes: Cost effective.
Valencia Smith: much, is
Rose Bayer: No,
Valencia Smith: it?
Rose Bayer: it it doesn't cost,
Valencia Smith: That
Ashley Smith: No
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: that w that won't change much, will it
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Valencia Smith: uh?
Rose Bayer: Doesn't doesn't
Ashley Smith: The
Valencia Smith: I d I
Rose Bayer: doesn't
Ashley Smith: the
Valencia Smith: wouldn't
Ashley Smith: quest
Rose Bayer: matter.
Valencia Smith: think
Ashley Smith: the
Valencia Smith: so.
Ashley Smith: question to be addressed here is only who is the target group and how will it function,
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: and I think the how will it function is probably the question of the buttons you know,
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: within the target group or subgroups. The question is only whether our budget will allow to have more than one design in a sense.
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: I mean the basic design I understand will be the same, but the question is how much will that set us back if let's say uh forty percent we make large buttons and the rest
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: we make regular buttons
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: for example.
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: So that remains to s to be seen but uh the target group as a whole is is basically everybody with a T_V_.
Valencia Smith: That's right,
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: and can we can we is it even feasible to make one one remote control with something for everyone, or would we have to use the same electronics and make three different shapes?
Ashley Smith: Yeah, well that's that's
Valencia Smith: Um
Ashley Smith: the question.
Valencia Smith: the same electronics and basically all that's gonna be different
Rose Bayer: Hmm
Valencia Smith: is the plastic case.
Rose Bayer: hmm.
Valencia Smith: And in that case we could probabl moulded plastic isn't all that expensive is it? Um you
Rose Bayer: Uh no.
Valencia Smith: as an
Rose Bayer: Mm,
Valencia Smith: industrial
Rose Bayer: I I
Valencia Smith: person?
Rose Bayer: I don't think no.
Ashley Smith: Well maybe there's
Rose Bayer: It's
Ashley Smith: there's an idea
Rose Bayer: not.
Ashley Smith: you know t the new for example new portable phones?
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: They have like removable plastic cases,
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: so you can have a striped one or you can have a fluorescent blue one, or whatever,
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: and maybe something like that, that in each package you know you have
Valencia Smith: Well there's a real
Ashley Smith: you
Valencia Smith: idea
Ashley Smith: you
Valencia Smith: yeah.
Ashley Smith: have you have for example uh you have let's say a fluorescent blue on it
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: but then you have uh another colour or stripe whatever that already comes in a package.
Rose Bayer: Hmm.
Ashley Smith: And
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: then if people really want more colours they can buy it separately.
Valencia Smith: Right.
Rose Bayer: Yeah, like
Ashley Smith: You
Rose Bayer: for
Ashley Smith: know,
Branda Noyes: Um
Rose Bayer: mobile phones we
Ashley Smith: yes.
Rose Bayer: have uh different you know covers,
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: like
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Rose Bayer: designs
Ashley Smith: That's right,
Rose Bayer: and
Ashley Smith: and
Rose Bayer: all
Ashley Smith: but
Rose Bayer: so that
Ashley Smith: like
Rose Bayer: w
Ashley Smith: if
Rose Bayer: we can
Valencia Smith: Uh
Ashley Smith: if
Rose Bayer: have
Valencia Smith: yeah.
Ashley Smith: then
Rose Bayer: that.
Ashley Smith: everybody is is is tired of the fluorescent blue and of the striped or whatever they have as another one in the package, then they can go to the store and for a few uh
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: Francs or Euros whatever they can buy
Valencia Smith: An alternate package.
Ashley Smith: an alternate package with another two colours in it you know for example
Valencia Smith: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: you
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Ashley Smith: know.
Branda Noyes: But uh yeah I I have a doubt like will it be cost wise effective if we if we design a remote having all the uh different features for different people or designing three different um remotes for three different categories of people.
Ashley Smith: Well I think
Rose Bayer: Yeah, but
Ashley Smith: I
Valencia Smith: Well
Rose Bayer: uh
Ashley Smith: think
Valencia Smith: I think
Ashley Smith: the
Valencia Smith: we
Ashley Smith: idea
Valencia Smith: can only
Ashley Smith: here is
Valencia Smith: aff,
Ashley Smith: to uh to to
Valencia Smith: yeah.
Ashley Smith: d design one remote
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Rose Bayer: Yeah.
Ashley Smith: and what the only change is gonna be um the funct
Valencia Smith: Cosmetic.
Ashley Smith: d t yeah
Branda Noyes: Of th
Ashley Smith: uh
Branda Noyes: okay.
Ashley Smith: the functional functional cosmetics if you
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: want to put it that way,
Branda Noyes: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: um having maybe larger buttons or buttons that light up or buttons that are slightly differently shaped for people uh either for children um Five minutes that was I guess tha that's the old message.
Valencia Smith: Warning, finish
Ashley Smith: Finish
Valencia Smith: meeting
Ashley Smith: meeting
Valencia Smith: now.
Ashley Smith: now. Um um.
Valencia Smith: Well we may have to come back to one or
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Valencia Smith: two of these
Rose Bayer: maybe,
Valencia Smith: points
Rose Bayer: yeah,
Valencia Smith: at our next meeting but
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Valencia Smith: um
Ashley Smith: But I think
Rose Bayer: If we do some more research,
Ashley Smith: I
Rose Bayer: maybe
Ashley Smith: I think
Rose Bayer: we.
Ashley Smith: to sum it up the target group is basically everybody. If money permits we can address some features for some subgroups
Valencia Smith: Mm-hmm.
Branda Noyes: Okay,
Ashley Smith: within that.
Rose Bayer: Hmm
Branda Noyes: mm-hmm.
Rose Bayer: yeah,
Valencia Smith: Okay
Rose Bayer: I
Valencia Smith: but
Ashley Smith: Do
Rose Bayer: think
Ashley Smith: we
Valencia Smith: we have
Ashley Smith: agree,
Valencia Smith: to
Rose Bayer: maybe
Valencia Smith: l
Rose Bayer: seventy
Ashley Smith: do we?
Rose Bayer: percent is a unique uh uh remote
Ashley Smith: Do we
Rose Bayer: controller
Ashley Smith: agree
Rose Bayer: and
Ashley Smith: on
Rose Bayer: thirty percent
Ashley Smith: on that
Rose Bayer: is
Ashley Smith: in
Rose Bayer: yeah
Ashley Smith: principle,
Rose Bayer: it's sort of
Ashley Smith: like
Rose Bayer: like yeah.
Ashley Smith: money will tell whether
Rose Bayer: Yeah,
Ashley Smith: we will
Rose Bayer: yeah,
Ashley Smith: be able
Rose Bayer: of
Ashley Smith: to
Rose Bayer: course,
Ashley Smith: do that
Rose Bayer: yeah.
Ashley Smith: or not.
Valencia Smith: Okay,
Branda Noyes: Yes.
Valencia Smith: fair
Ashley Smith: Okay?
Valencia Smith: enough.
Rose Bayer: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Smith: So now I understand it's lunch break. And um. So that's what we will do.
Valencia Smith: Okay.
Branda Noyes: Okay.
Ashley Smith: So hank you very much.
Rose Bayer: Thank you.
Ashley Smith: And we'll see you after lunch. | The meeting begins and Valencia Smith starts her presentation promptly, telling them that her research shows they need a focus- it is not possible to make a device that works on the whole house. Ashley Smith steps in and informs them that they have instructions to eliminate the teletext idea because it is too complicated, and also said they must maintain the corporate image by using corporate designs and colors. Valencia Smith resumes, talking about how remotes often get lost and that a light emitter might be useful. Rose Bayer gives her presentation, talking about components, materials, and energy sources. They discuss giving the control different shapes to suit both adults and children, making the buttons various shapes, and putting a display clock on the control. The interface designer presents, talking about the features users like on a remote and suggesting that they make the remote a T-shape and add an alarm clock function. They discuss their target group and the possibility of removable plastic cases. They close the meeting deciding to do more research on the plastic cases. | 0 | amisum | test |
Ashley Wilkinson: So uh good morning.
Eloise Winder: Morning.
Esther Patterson: Morning.
Diana Mcintosh: Morning.
Ashley Wilkinson: I see you all find places. Is everybody
Esther Patterson: Yep.
Ashley Wilkinson: sitting on the right place? Yeah? I guess so. So Let's see. First I will introduce myself. I don't know if uh if everybody knows Esther Patterson, so I'm
Esther Patterson: My
Ashley Wilkinson: Bart,
Esther Patterson: name's Frank.
Ashley Wilkinson: hello. Hello.
Eloise Winder: I'm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Bart. Hello. Hello. Bart. Welcome.
Esther Patterson: Thank you
Ashley Wilkinson: Uh let's see. Uh let's start off um with a little presentation. Uh Now first I'll tell you a little bit about the setting. You can see are cameras here. They'll record uh our actions and you'll have wires and microphones that will record your voice. Uh there are also some microphones there but th um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those, because it will uh disappear when you don't attend to it. So is there a project documents folder? There are some notes in it already I see, some documents. Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off. Is being modified by the administrator. Uh okay.
Esther Patterson: Hmm,
Ashley Wilkinson: Let's do it read
Esther Patterson: that's
Ashley Wilkinson: only.
Esther Patterson: interesting.
Ashley Wilkinson: Well I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're working for Real Reaction. Uh it's a company in uh electronics. We put fashion in electronics, uh we make it work, uh we put a lot of effort in design and in the product itself. I'm Bart Ashley Wilkinson so I'll direct you through the project. This is our agenda. Uh we have our opening acquaintance, tool training, project plan description closing. Uh maybe I can sit down, then I can take some notes or Let's see. Maybe you can take the minutes once in a while.
Esther Patterson: Sure.
Ashley Wilkinson: I dunno it's not a lot of work, but just uh if you hear something uh you can write down, just write it down. Uh as you can see uh it's the opening, aquaintance tool training. Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit. Um have you all seen the corporate website already?
Esther Patterson: Yep.
Eloise Winder: Yep.
Esther Patterson: Visit
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah.
Esther Patterson: it.
Ashley Wilkinson: Have you seen any flaws in it? I think I found one. No?
Eloise Winder: Hmm?
Esther Patterson: Can't say I paid much attention to it,
Ashley Wilkinson: I can see if it works this way. No, it doesn't work here. Okay no problem. But um on the corporate information side there's a th uh there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction.
Esther Patterson: Oh yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: Real Remote is not really the company we're we are, but
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: it's just a little
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: fault. Um okay, what are we going to do? Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy, and user friendly. So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you. We've
Esther Patterson: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: got Esther Patterson for uh the trendy and user friendly look. And Industrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original. And we've got our User Interface Designer.
Eloise Winder: Yep.
Ashley Wilkinson: He's also uh That's about the new remote control. Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through. First is functional des uh design, individual work, meetings. After the functional design, then the conceptual design and the detailed design. I had some role indications on here. But I think you know it already by yourself. Diana Mcintosh is going to work on the working design, uh components design and a bit of the look and feel design. Uh Eloise Winder is going to do the technical function design, user interface concept and user interface design. And Esther Patterson is doing a little bit of user requirement specification, trend watching and project uh product ev evaluation. So that's a bit what you're going to do. But that will be all worked out in uh other meetings. Then we've got our first tool training. We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here, so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit of training first. As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board. Um in the white board here there's a little tool bar on this side. Here are some functions. You can save. N uh these functions we don't have anything to do with, only undo, you can undo a little uh piece of drawing. A blank new document for each person. Uh select a pen, eraser. Capture we don't have to do anything with. Uh then we've got our pen. This pen. It's really
Esther Patterson: 'Kay.
Ashley Wilkinson: funny because you can draw with it on this page um in the think it is form of. You can also select the current colour and the line width.
Eloise Winder: Hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: But then first you have to select the pen function. But we're going to work with it in a minute. So okay. Uh that's very simple and it's easy to uh draw your findings and drawings on there. Uh then a short thing about documents. We've got our shared folder, project project what was it? Project documents I think. But all you will found that already because there are a lot of documents in it already, so it will be okay. And these are available on the smart boards as well,
Eloise Winder: Okay. Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: Here is a simple tool bar. It's what I just said, it's save, print, move back or forward one page. You can switch between the different drawings. And then we're going to try out the white board. So as you can see we g all going to draw a animal. Just to uh uh just to get a bit familiar with it. Mouse wasn't running away.
Esther Patterson: That was interesting.
Ashley Wilkinson: Is everybody is anybody playing with the mouse? No. Okay.
Esther Patterson: Innocent.
Ashley Wilkinson: We're going to uh draw animal. And uh just sum up a few of its favourite characteristics. Um the only thing we have to uh look after is that we use different colours, and different line width. Uh there's I can start from now. I will. You can use this pen by holding it like a like a little child. Because if you hold it like this, the sensors will get blocked and then the
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Esther Patterson: 'Kay.
Ashley Wilkinson: drawing won't get good. Another thing is you have to be uh a bit slow. 'Cause if you're going to draw like really fast then um the pen won't hold up. So we choose form of current colour uh I think grey is appropriate. Then the line width. I think seven will be nice. Now you'll see my drawing capabilities. These are not very much, but uh Uh, see you have to do it real slow.
Ashley Wilkinson: Oh
Eloise Winder: Sure.
Ashley Wilkinson: Ah I was trying to draw a dolphin, but I think his nose has to be a little bit But it's close.
Esther Patterson: I'm thinking about a swordfish.
Ashley Wilkinson: So what
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: yeah it's
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: this is bit of the swordfish. Yeah, he hasn't got an eye.
Diana Mcintosh: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Woah. Now we've got another function. We've got the eraser. And then you can undo this easily.
Esther Patterson: Meat.
Ashley Wilkinson: Ah it's okay. And I've got to write down a few of its characteristics. Uh is They've got no text tool, no. Uh.
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay. This is typically a undo action, I think.
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: Pen. Maybe you have to hold it a bit upside-down. I think that's it because if you wan ar are going to do it like this then it will be a stripe. But I don't know, I'm just trying. This is not my work, okay.
Esther Patterson: Hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Maybe you have to use
Ashley Wilkinson: Oh.
Ashley Wilkinson: Uh. I think it's a it wants to draw a another animal? I don't know. It lives for the fun. So It's my characteristic uh characteristic about the dolphin. It lives for the fun.
Esther Patterson: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: So
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: now I'm gonna hand over the pen on the new blank sheet to you. Go
Esther Patterson: Thank
Ashley Wilkinson: ahead.
Esther Patterson: you. Okay. Gonna use a different line width.
Esther Patterson: There. 'Kay, I'm not much of an artist, but here we go.
Ashley Wilkinson: Maybe it's easier to draw the smaller line width, I think.
Eloise Winder: Hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Because this is going a lot better than uh I did.
Eloise Winder: A sheep.
Esther Patterson: Mm.
Esther Patterson: Okay. This is my um Hmm. Sheep.
Ashley Wilkinson: It's nice.
Esther Patterson: With of course
Esther Patterson: little
Ashley Wilkinson: Uh.
Esther Patterson: blue dot they always get sprayed on their butts.
Ashley Wilkinson: It's
Esther Patterson: There.
Ashley Wilkinson: a real dead sheep, yeah.
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: For recognition, yeah, I see. Um maybe you can
Esther Patterson: 'Kay.
Ashley Wilkinson: also write your name somewhere. On just a
Esther Patterson: They are Come on.
Esther Patterson: You have to go really slow when you're writing.
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah.
Esther Patterson: They're brilliant animal animals. And that's just a little Esther Patterson thingy. So. Guess I'll pass the pen to our
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: Nice.
Esther Patterson: User Interface Designer.
Eloise Winder: Um I'm just gonna draw its uh head, but mm Let's see. Mm.
Eloise Winder: Uh.
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Esther Patterson: Interesting.
Ashley Wilkinson: Sweet.
Eloise Winder: Yeah. You know what that is? Or who?
Esther Patterson: A rabbit?
Diana Mcintosh: Garfield.
Eloise Winder: Ah okay,
Esther Patterson: Garfield.
Eloise Winder: yeah.
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Eloise Winder: Just a
Eloise Winder: So uh Yeah. That's enough. Um, you say a blank, or
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah, just a blank
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: sheet.
Diana Mcintosh: Well I was gonna draw a cat too, so. I'll just try something else.
Ashley Wilkinson: No.
Diana Mcintosh: Something different than Garfield.
Diana Mcintosh: Mine is a bit more skinny.
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah, it's
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: pretty skinny cat.
Diana Mcintosh: But uh
Esther Patterson: And the most interesting tail.
Ashley Wilkinson: Is your cat, or did you find him on the street?
Diana Mcintosh: Well, it's supposed to be a cat. I like cats because uh they are uh independent.
Ashley Wilkinson: Ah.
Diana Mcintosh: The pen. So.
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay. That's pretty clear. So everybody knows how to work with the white board now? So
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: if you have any ideas or if you wanna
Diana Mcintosh: The
Ashley Wilkinson: draw
Diana Mcintosh: pen.
Ashley Wilkinson: anything on the white board, just ask and go ahead. It's pretty uh easy. 'Kay. S
Esther Patterson: We're being haunted.
Ashley Wilkinson: haunted white board. So we've got the tool uh introduction. We move along to the project finance. Um as you can see, we um for our remote control, a selling price is uh twenty five Euros. Our selling price. Uh our profit aim is fifty million Euros. Uh that's the least we have to get from our remote controls, so we have to work together to reach our aims. Uh we can do it international, so we have to focus on different kind of users, different kind of cultures, and different kind of trends as well. Um but that's all in the later stadium. Our production cost um can be maximal twelve and a half Euros, so that's also a point we have to keep in mind, that we won't make remote controls with small televisions inside, and stuff like that. It won't work. So just try to remember these points. Selling price twenty five, profit aims fifty million um, but more important is the int international market we're trying to focus on. And production cost uh maximal twelve and a half Euros. So that's leads us to our little discussion. We've got about five or ten minutes left for discussion. So I'm gonna sit down, I think. It's easier.
Esther Patterson: Yeah, you got a message.
Ashley Wilkinson: I've got a message. Five minutes.
Eloise Winder: Five
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay,
Eloise Winder: minutes, okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: that's uh good timing.
Esther Patterson: So just on a side note, why is it my laptop is only giving Esther Patterson a black screen?
Eloise Winder: Mm?
Ashley Wilkinson: Uh maybe you have to say the magic word.
Esther Patterson: Yeah. Right.
Ashley Wilkinson: Does it do anything?
Esther Patterson: No.
Ashley Wilkinson: Maybe you have to just clap it down? Mm back up again. No slide show. Hmm.
Esther Patterson: It's off now.
Ashley Wilkinson: It's off. Now you have to put it back o Oh yeah. You'll be okay, I think.
Esther Patterson: Well, it was on, but
Ashley Wilkinson: Well it's those laptops.
Esther Patterson: Ah, there we are.
Ashley Wilkinson: Nice. Okay. But so mm does everybody has um experiences with uh remote controls, and I mean not the ordinary mote controls, but also a little bit different ones?
Eloise Winder: Mm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Like you can use for other?
Eloise Winder: Oh really?
Ashley Wilkinson: No?
Eloise Winder: Huh.
Ashley Wilkinson: You?
Esther Patterson: Well, we
Diana Mcintosh: No,
Eloise Winder: It's
Esther Patterson: have
Diana Mcintosh: Esther Patterson
Esther Patterson: a
Diana Mcintosh: neither.
Eloise Winder: a
Esther Patterson: kind of broad T_V_ at home, and a D_V_D_ player, so we got like a lot of remote controls, one for the T_V_, one for the video recorder, one for the D_V_D_ player.
Ashley Wilkinson: Ah yeah.
Esther Patterson: And I think it's it would be best to just make one remote control that can operate them all.
Ashley Wilkinson: Yep.
Eloise Winder: Sure.
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah I've
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: I've got one at home. And you can uh program I think eight different devices in it, and you can use it for your television,
Eloise Winder: Okay, yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: anything else.
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: And it also operates on infra-red, so you have to got the little device inside your room, and then you can operate it from the third or th or
Eloise Winder: Okay,
Ashley Wilkinson: second
Eloise Winder: yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: floor.
Esther Patterson: Oh really.
Ashley Wilkinson: So
Eloise Winder: Hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: that's pretty handy when you have a video recorder or D_V_D_ player downstairs and
Eloise Winder: Oh.
Ashley Wilkinson: you've got a link to your T_V_ on the second floor.
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Eloise Winder: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: So that's a pretty handy um thing. Um but only the I think that if you can put different kind of devices in one remote control, it makes it a lot easier as well. It's
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: uh
Eloise Winder: Oh.
Ashley Wilkinson: That's good to remember.
Esther Patterson: So I think you can take minutes again.
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah, that's nice, I think.
Esther Patterson: Since it's your job.
Ashley Wilkinson: So we've we want different functions
Esther Patterson: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: uh and we can maybe see if we can do something with the infra-red. But I don't know if that will exceed the production costs. So that
Eloise Winder: Mm.
Ashley Wilkinson: uh that's something we have to find out, I think.
Esther Patterson: Yeah. But that would be really good if we could do that.
Ashley Wilkinson: And other functions for a remote control? Maybe we can make
Esther Patterson: Um.
Ashley Wilkinson: it
Eloise Winder: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Wilkinson: uh uh
Esther Patterson: Think it has to be shock proof
Eloise Winder: Sure, yeah.
Esther Patterson: 'cause
Ashley Wilkinson: Shock proof.
Esther Patterson: my remote control tends to
Eloise Winder: Waterproof,
Esther Patterson: fall a lot.
Eloise Winder: or uh
Esther Patterson: So
Eloise Winder: Uh,
Ashley Wilkinson: Sure.
Eloise Winder: you never no know uh, I w I mean uh
Ashley Wilkinson: Waterproof. Okay. So these are our um a few things we can think of. Um I will put the minutes from this meeting uh in our project folder.
Eloise Winder: 'Kay.
Esther Patterson: Yeah, one other little thing. Thought it might be handy to put a battery status display on it. So
Ashley Wilkinson: That's
Esther Patterson: you can
Ashley Wilkinson: a
Esther Patterson: see
Ashley Wilkinson: battery stays.
Eloise Winder: Okay, yeah.
Esther Patterson: how much is left in the battery. But they'll also really drag up the production costs, so
Ashley Wilkinson: Yeah.
Esther Patterson: think we'll have to see about that too.
Eloise Winder: Mm.
Ashley Wilkinson: Uh.
Esther Patterson: But maybe just a little LED, I don't know.
Ashley Wilkinson: That's an idea as well. Other ideas? Quick ideas.
Diana Mcintosh: Nope. They were all
Eloise Winder: Mm.
Diana Mcintosh: mentioned, so
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay.
Eloise Winder: Yeah.
Ashley Wilkinson: Any questions about this uh presentation? Kick off presentation.
Esther Patterson: Um. Nope, don't think so.
Ashley Wilkinson: No? Okay, then I'll put the minutes from this meeting in the project folder, and then we can all work. Finish meeting now.
Esther Patterson: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay. And
Esther Patterson: Aye
Ashley Wilkinson: we
Esther Patterson: sir.
Ashley Wilkinson: can all work uh on our own projects.
Ashley Wilkinson: Okay then I'll meet you in about a
Esther Patterson: Half an
Ashley Wilkinson: half
Esther Patterson: hour.
Ashley Wilkinson: an hour, I think.
Diana Mcintosh: Okay.
Eloise Winder: Okay.
Esther Patterson: Okay.
Ashley Wilkinson: So good luck.
Eloise Winder: Yep. | Ashley Wilkinson introduced himself to the team and then acquainted the team with the audio and video equipment in the meeting room. Ashley Wilkinson briefly described the company the team works for and discussed the corporate website. Ashley Wilkinson then described the upcoming project and the roles of each team member. Ashley Wilkinson introduced the smart boards to the team and led the team members in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and described why they liked the animal. Ashley Wilkinson briefed the team on the project budget and selling prices for the remote they are to create and led them in a discussion on their experiences with remote controls and what features they would like to include in their product. | 0 | amisum | test |
Sharon Powers: Okay. Everybody found his place again? Yeah
Suzanne Welk: Yes.
Sharon Powers: That's? nice. Okay so this is our second meeting. And uh still failing?
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Uh now we're going um into the functional design. Um important thing of this phase is that we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements, technical function design, and the working design. So that we can move onto the second uh phase. But first this phase. Um first an announcement. There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system. There's our ghost mouse again. That that means that you can have a little trouble with, little trouble with the air conditioning, that's because of this uh
Denise Phegley: Okay.
Suzanne Welk: Okay.
Sharon Powers: It's in wing C_ and E_. So it should be over in a in a while, couple of days. But it's going to be cold anyway, so I don't think you're gonna need it.
Suzanne Welk: No.
Sharon Powers: Then our agenda. Now first the opening. Uh this time I will take the minutes. Uh you're going to have a presentation. All of you. Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the whole uh presentations. So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation, and then we can have a little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to Suzanne Welk. And then the decision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include. So we've got forty minutes for all of it. So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation.
Suzanne Welk: Yes
Sharon Powers: Um who wants to be first?
Suzanne Welk: Think I'll go first.
Sharon Powers: Okay. So Just maybe it's easier if you um Yeah I think you will tell your presentation as well. Just which function you have and what you're gonna talk about.
Suzanne Welk: 'Kay. My name is Freek Van Ponnen. I'm the Market Expert. But you already knew that. Um I've done some research. We have we uh have been doing research in a usability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls. Uh we let them fill out a questionnaire. We had one hundred of these uh test subjects. Uh in we did research. Uh see what market consists of ages are involved. Well these are three quite astonishing results, I thought. Um remotes are being considered ugly. F uh seventy five percent of the um people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly. Um and an additional eighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control. So Um in addition remotes were not very functional. Fifty percent of the people indicated they only loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. And fifty percent of the people indicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room. So
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Suzanne Welk: some things. Then we did some research to the most relevant functions. Channel selection and volume selection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy. The power button got a nine. And teletext got a six and a half. So these are the most most uh important functions on a remote control. Then there are some one-time use function. That's what I like to call them. That uh audio settings, video settings, and channel settings buttons. Which are not really used very frequently, but are still considered to be of some importance. Um channel selection was also indicated to be used very frequently. One hundred and sixty eight times per hour. Then these are the This is the market. Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six. Um Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control. Um they like to use new f new functions. But they also are very critical. They won't spend their money very easily. So Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of the market. They are not really very interested in features. But they do tend to spend their money a lot easier. Um What I think this indicates for our um design. I think we should make a remote for the future. And this means we would um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five. Uh this also makes up most the biggest part of the market, so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable. Um this would mean we would have to make a fancy design. Um The results also indicated that um about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R_S_ R_S_I_. Um this is certainly something to take into account. And thirty four percent thought that it was hard to learn a n how to operate a new control, remote control. So these are two factors that I think should be included in the design. Besides of course that the remote must look very nice. And the functionality As a lot of people indicated, they only use about ten percent of the buttons, I think we should make very few buttons. Uh this will also be uh beneficial to the design of the remote. Uh I think the most frequently used buttons should be emphasised. Especially the channel selection and audio uh selection buttons. 'Cause they're used most and so they should be robust. They shouldn't break down easily. Um Then as mo as a lot of people indicated that their um remote got lost in the room, it might be and I say might be because it would um certainly boost the uh production costs a lot. But it might be a good idea to make a docking station. And this would, could get a button in it which would send a signal to the remote which would then beep. So you'd know where it is in the room. And in addition to this it could um recharge the batteries in the remote if you put it in. Then um a surprisingly great deal of people w indicated that um an L_C_D_ screen in the remote control would be preferred. This was um mostly people in the age of sixteen to twenty five. But up till forty five it remains feasible. This would also greatly increase the production costs but I think these are just some small factors we could consider.
Sharon Powers: Okay.
Suzanne Welk: That would be all.
Sharon Powers: Thank you. So anybody have um any questions
Suzanne Welk: Any questions?
Sharon Powers: until now?
Denise Phegley: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Powers: About functional requirements?
Ana Avila: No.
Sharon Powers: Okay that's clear.
Suzanne Welk: 'Kay.
Sharon Powers: Now to the second.
Denise Phegley: Uh okay. I've been looking at uh the user interface of it.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it. Um
Sharon Powers: Yeah you can
Denise Phegley: Okay.
Sharon Powers: take your time. We've got uh
Denise Phegley: Mm?
Sharon Powers: plenty
Suzanne Welk: Yeah
Sharon Powers: of
Suzanne Welk: you should
Sharon Powers: time,
Suzanne Welk: go to
Sharon Powers: so
Suzanne Welk: the
Denise Phegley: Oh.
Suzanne Welk: top thingy.
Denise Phegley: Uh.
Suzanne Welk: Slide show. Oh
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: yeah.
Denise Phegley: Okay.
Sharon Powers: There it is. Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Um yeah. I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control. Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and not much information about it, Um about uh interface but uh Uh Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control. Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D_V_D_ uh uh television, uh stereo. So um But uh it must be uh user-friendly. So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh Yeah. Uh uh uh Yeah. In one um remote
Sharon Powers: One
Denise Phegley: control.
Sharon Powers: remote.
Denise Phegley: But um Yeah. Um yeah. Got uh many functions in one uh remote control, um but um yeah you can see, this is uh quite simple uh remote control. Um few uh buttons but uh This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons. Um uh people uh don't like it, uh so um Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are. So uh like uh the on-off uh button. Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button. Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that. Um My personal uh preferences um. Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device. So um Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um
Denise Phegley: Uh this the remote control uh and uh you got here the general functions, uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh I dunno um And um here you've got a s kind of a display. It's a touchscreen. So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D_V_D_ player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh. And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device. So um this button is for a D_V_D_ or So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons. So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device. So
Sharon Powers: Hmm.
Denise Phegley: uh that's uh my uh idea about it.
Sharon Powers: 'Kay.
Denise Phegley: Um yeah and Uh let's see. Uh yeah. So a touchscreen. Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um. We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah. Everybody uh have to use it so Uh ol even even old people um young people. So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large. So uh
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Um Yeah. Uh yeah. That was uh my uh
Sharon Powers: Okay.
Denise Phegley: part of it. So
Sharon Powers: Anybody has questions about the technical functions?
Ana Avila: Well I think if we are gonna a uh we're gonna above the twelve and a half Euros.
Denise Phegley: N
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: I I don't think so. Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen.
Sharon Powers: Touchscreen.
Denise Phegley: S um it's uh not uh in colour or something. Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah. Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago. Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh for uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh.
Sharon Powers: Huh.
Denise Phegley: So
Suzanne Welk: Hmm.
Denise Phegley: it's possible.
Sharon Powers: 'Kay. That's nice.
Suzanne Welk: Well it would
Sharon Powers: Uh
Suzanne Welk: certainly make a fancy design.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: But
Suzanne Welk: So
Ana Avila: the It wouldn't be very robust. It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it.
Suzanne Welk: That is true.
Sharon Powers: That's
Denise Phegley: Yeah that's true.
Suzanne Welk: We
Sharon Powers: right.
Suzanne Welk: would have
Sharon Powers: Uh
Suzanne Welk: to look into that.
Sharon Powers: maybe we can first um listen to your presentation? Uh
Denise Phegley: Uh.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Ana Avila: That's.
Sharon Powers: And then we have a little discussion about the requirements and uh
Ana Avila: Okay.
Sharon Powers: design.
Sharon Powers: I think it's going to Uh it's not too much. Okay.
Ana Avila: Okay I've got a presentation about the working design. Um first about how it works. It's really simple of course. Everybody knows how a remote works. The user presses a button. The remote determines what button it is, The T_V_ switches to the frequency, or what function it is. So we've got um the the plate. It gots conductive disks for every button. When the user presses a button, a signal got sent, goes to the LED and transmits tranmi transmits its to the T_V_. It's a very simple device, technically speaking. So this is a schematic overview. You've got the buttons. The power source. And uh when a button gets pressed, its goes to the chip. The chip uh controls the infrared bulb and perf perhaps a normal bulb. When you press a button you can actually see your pressed button. Well um I think we should use default materials, simple plastics. Keep the inner workings simple, so it's robust. Uh I think we should focus on aesthetics, the design and the user interface, because if you're going to use high-tech materials the price is going to go sky-high. And uh you only have to design a remote once, and if you use high-tech materials it come back in every product. So it's, in my idea, it's uh it's gonna be smart to invest in di in design and not in uh in the product itself. That's it.
Sharon Powers: Okay. Thank you.
Sharon Powers: Okay. Uh Okay now I hope everybody has a little bit more insight in the functions we all have and what we are doing right now. Um I'm Sharon Powers so I'm here to mess things up and uh tell you some new uh requirements. Um that's, we've uh got to design a um remote which is only suitable for T_V_. Um that's because
Denise Phegley: Okay.
Sharon Powers: uh it will be too complex and the time to market will be too big, if we wanna have it uh for more functions.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: So it has to be simple. Uh another point is we have to skip the teletext, because in the world of uh upcoming internet uh we think teletext is going to be uh a thing of the past. And uh it's a function we don't need in our remote control. Um internet is also mentioned in a function we can use. Uh maybe also on televisions it will be available as well. Another one is uh the customer is uh forty plus. Uh that's the the market we have to to to target, because we are going to develop a new product which is specially designed for the younger customers. Um this is uh a bit pity for the Marketing uh Expert. Because he was uh aiming on the the younger persons. So we have to find a market which is above forty plus uh but which will suit our uh remote control, and the other way round. And we have to be very uh attent in uh putting the corporate image uh in our product. So it has to be visible in our design, in the way our device works. And uh we have to be uh very clear on this point as well. So I suggest let's have a discussion on the control functions. Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: So is there any discussion possible about the new product requirement?
Sharon Powers: Uh we can see if we can find a way uh between the functions we wanna use and the market we wanna reach with our product.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: Um
Suzanne Welk: Yeah 'cause you're you're saying that teletext is gonna be an old feature and it's not gonna be used anymore anyway pretty soon. And new T_V_s will have internet access on them.
Suzanne Welk: within the next like twenty years is very slim. In
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: addition people indicated that teletext simply was an important feature for the remote control. So I think it's pretty dumb to put no teletext feature on it. I'm pretty much against it.
Sharon Powers: Against the no
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: teletext?
Suzanne Welk: Yes.
Sharon Powers: Um
Suzanne Welk: Besides that, I think the market for forty plus is like pretty small. But
Sharon Powers: Yeah
Suzanne Welk: I mean if
Sharon Powers: it's
Suzanne Welk: I
Sharon Powers: it
Suzanne Welk: s if
Sharon Powers: is
Suzanne Welk: I see
Denise Phegley: forty
Suzanne Welk: this, it's I think we're just gonna go for another
Sharon Powers: Standard remote.
Suzanne Welk: pretty
Sharon Powers: No I think
Suzanne Welk: and
Sharon Powers: we can
Suzanne Welk: not innovative
Sharon Powers: I think
Suzanne Welk: remote
Sharon Powers: we
Suzanne Welk: control.
Sharon Powers: can do a lot with the design and the simple buttons which were also mentioned. Uh if we put a lot of effort in those, we can make a remote control with uh just two or three buttons. Or just a remote which is suitable for the market we wanna reach because
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: it is forty percent of the market. And um if you look in Holland at the whole generation of forty plus, fifty plus, it it's the the biggest share of the of the whole population now.
Suzanne Welk: Yes but it's not the biggest part of the market.
Sharon Powers: No.
Suzanne Welk: And besides that, they're not very critical so I mean they don't really care what the remote control is like. They'll just pretty much take the first thing they see and which looks acceptable.
Sharon Powers: But don't you think that
Sharon Powers: people think that's the the device I've looked for although I didn't realise it. So let's try it.
Suzanne Welk: No. I think that would be the case in the sixteen to forty five age category. because they are critical and they they want to have a fancy remote control.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: People of forty plus, I mean they want it to work, but as soo as soon as it works it's okay with them.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: I think that if
Suzanne Welk: So
Ana Avila: we're If we put our marketing right um we can sell this just like um I don't know if you've heard about it in the news, the the elderly mobile phone?
Sharon Powers: Yeah. It's a big success.
Ana Avila: Yeah if we
Suzanne Welk: I haven't
Ana Avila: if we
Suzanne Welk: heard
Ana Avila: make
Sharon Powers: Very
Suzanne Welk: of
Ana Avila: a
Sharon Powers: big
Ana Avila: remote
Suzanne Welk: it.
Sharon Powers: success.
Ana Avila: control just
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: l with that idea in mind, we could make tons of money, I think.
Suzanne Welk: Hmm.
Sharon Powers: Uh.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Ana Avila: We
Sharon Powers: I
Ana Avila: don't have
Sharon Powers: think
Ana Avila: to focus
Sharon Powers: so as well.
Ana Avila: on on on the on the design then but on functionality. We just change our focus on the project, and I think we can uh we can sell this.
Sharon Powers: Uh I simply think um uh that the new products we are gonna make, uh spef specifically design, are designed for uh younger people, uh so maybe we can focus ourself on the elderly people. And I think we have to um see what requirements we need for those um remote controls. 'Cause what you told is the channel selection is important.
Suzanne Welk: Yes.
Sharon Powers: Volume selection,
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: power and teletext.
Suzanne Welk: Yes.
Sharon Powers: Okay.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Um
Suzanne Welk: But obviously the board tends to disagree.
Sharon Powers: No we we haven't voted yet, so Uh I think teletext can be uh um can be a function as well. But only if uh if it won't higher the the cost, because I don't know if it will be a lot more money to implement teletext as well, but I don't think it will be a problem. Or is teletext
Denise Phegley: But
Sharon Powers: a
Denise Phegley: um deaf people need uh teletext for uh for
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: subtitles.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah, also.
Denise Phegley: So it's Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Yeah. So I suggest
Suzanne Welk: I think
Sharon Powers: uh
Suzanne Welk: it'd definitely
Denise Phegley: It's
Suzanne Welk: be a bad idea not to include
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: teletext.
Sharon Powers: Is anybody um really against teletext?
Ana Avila: No.
Sharon Powers: No? Just that, that we just keep the teletext. I think that's a good idea as well, especially for the subtitles. Maybe we can make that um another point of advantage in our remote control, if we uh make a k a button ex for example for big subtitles, which is instantly on the remote control.
Denise Phegley: Yeah
Sharon Powers: For elderly
Denise Phegley: yeah.
Sharon Powers: people they can think, oh I wanna have subtitles, and they push the button and they get the big subtitles.
Ana Avila: Uh that's
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Ana Avila: a good idea.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Um so I think teletext can v can be very useful in our advantage. Um Functionality should be few buttons, you said.
Suzanne Welk: Yes.
Sharon Powers: I think
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: uh that's very important we have a few buttons.
Suzanne Welk: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Powers: So to keep it
Suzanne Welk: But
Sharon Powers: simple.
Suzanne Welk: I don't think that's really an issue any more 'cause Well might be.
Denise Phegley: If it's
Suzanne Welk: But I mean
Denise Phegley: only
Suzanne Welk: it,
Denise Phegley: for
Suzanne Welk: if
Denise Phegley: televi
Suzanne Welk: it's only for T_V_
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: you're not gonna need a lot of buttons
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: anyway. You
Sharon Powers: No.
Suzanne Welk: need a one to zero button,
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: next channel, previous channel, volume up, volume down, and some teletext buttons but
Sharon Powers: Yeah. But
Suzanne Welk: I
Sharon Powers: do
Suzanne Welk: think
Sharon Powers: you
Suzanne Welk: if
Sharon Powers: need
Denise Phegley: So
Suzanne Welk: you
Denise Phegley: we
Suzanne Welk: if you only
Denise Phegley: can s
Suzanne Welk: l
Denise Phegley: we can skip the display, so uh we
Sharon Powers: But
Denise Phegley: don't need it.
Suzanne Welk: Nah.
Sharon Powers: do you need the buttons for one to zero. Maybe
Denise Phegley: Uh
Sharon Powers: c
Suzanne Welk: Think
Sharon Powers: we can
Suzanne Welk: if you're gonna include teletext you do. I think many people like to use that.
Sharon Powers: Maybe we
Suzanne Welk: 'Cause
Sharon Powers: can
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: if
Sharon Powers: use
Suzanne Welk: you should,
Sharon Powers: uh
Suzanne Welk: if you want to switch from channel one to like thirty five, you don't wanna push the next channel button thirty
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: five times.
Sharon Powers: No, maybe we can implement the scroll button? Or a joystick
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: like? There are other ways too. Just look if you look at telephones.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: The Sony telephone has a scroll
Denise Phegley: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Powers: button which is very useful in
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: searching names or
Suzanne Welk: That's true but um I don't think there are many T_V_s that can switch channels that fast. And so you would need like the T_V_ would need an a function where you can actually view all channels and scroll through it. And I dunno if many channels would do have that. If many T_V_s have that.
Ana Avila: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Ana Avila: And besides that it's um If we're gonna focus on elderly people they'll have to adapt. They're not used to using scroll buttons.
Sharon Powers: That's
Ana Avila: So
Sharon Powers: right.
Suzanne Welk: Mm-hmm.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Ana Avila: perhaps we should s stick to the basic layout.
Sharon Powers: the numbers yeah. Yeah they can see how much buttons there are going to be on on the display, and if it's too much we can uh reconsider it. But I think
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: there won't be very much buttons. Or there don't
Suzanne Welk: But
Sharon Powers: have to be
Suzanne Welk: I don't
Sharon Powers: a lot.
Suzanne Welk: think I think if you're gonna make a remote control only to operate a T_V_, you there's not much you can gain on um having as few buttons as possible. 'Cause I think there are pretty many remote controls that can only operate a T_V_, which already only have the minimum number of buttons. I don't think there's much to be gained in that area.
Sharon Powers: The
Denise Phegley: Hmm.
Sharon Powers: number of buttons?
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: I think it's very important in the in the design. You can make a very fancy design uh with putting the buttons on the right places. And if you have less buttons you can do a lot more with
Suzanne Welk: That is true but I think there's simply not much to gain on the competition when you when you're making a remote control only for to operate only the T_V_.
Sharon Powers: To operate only
Suzanne Welk: 'Cause
Sharon Powers: the T_V_
Suzanne Welk: if you have
Sharon Powers: yeah.
Suzanne Welk: a a remote control only to operate a T_V_ there's simply not a lot of buttons required. There's not a lot of functions required so most existing remote controls simply don't have a lot of buttons either.
Sharon Powers: No.
Denise Phegley: No.
Sharon Powers: So.
Suzanne Welk: So I think it would be very hard to actually gain on the competition here.
Sharon Powers: 'Kay. So we
Suzanne Welk: That would
Sharon Powers: can
Suzanne Welk: that would cost a a big marketing expedition
Sharon Powers: Yeah. That's right.
Suzanne Welk: which was one of the arguments to make it only for the T_V_ because we didn't have the time to market a lot.
Sharon Powers: Yeah. So you suggest we could better um focus on for example the docking station. Uh uh like other functions. Instead
Suzanne Welk: Maybe.
Sharon Powers: of f of less buttons.
Suzanne Welk: Well yeah I think, mean we obviously need a good way to position all the buttons and But I don't think we should spend very much time in that.
Sharon Powers: Mm. No. Do you think the docking station will uh is allowed in the budget we have?
Ana Avila: It should be possible yes.
Sharon Powers: 'Cause it
Ana Avila: If it's
Denise Phegley: No.
Sharon Powers: can
Ana Avila: not
Sharon Powers: be
Ana Avila: too fancy. And
Sharon Powers: No.
Ana Avila: if the remote stays rather small, it should be possible yeah.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: No.
Sharon Powers: Because I think that's uh That's a good advantage point as well. If we have a fancy-looking
Ana Avila: Yes.
Sharon Powers: docking station or very
Denise Phegley: Hmm.
Sharon Powers: That's a nice requirement. Docking station.
Ana Avila: So we're just gonna focus on the extras?
Sharon Powers: I think so.
Ana Avila: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah I think maybe we should do some research into what elderly people like to have in a
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: like to have extra in a new remote control.
Sharon Powers: That's a good point. Um You said they easily get lost as well.
Suzanne Welk: Yes well fifty percent of the people indicated that remote
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: control tended to get lost.
Sharon Powers: So maybe we should implement the audio sign, or something.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah that was what I suggested.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: Like with
Suzanne Welk: You
Ana Avila: your
Suzanne Welk: have it
Ana Avila: key-chain,
Suzanne Welk: on
Ana Avila: if you
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: whistle it goes
Suzanne Welk: Yeah
Ana Avila: uh it makes
Denise Phegley: Hm.
Ana Avila: a sound.
Suzanne Welk: you have it's on some phones too, which have a docking station.
Ana Avila: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: And you just press a button and the phone goes ringing.
Sharon Powers: Yeah. So
Suzanne Welk: So you know where it is.
Sharon Powers: audio signal should be possible as well. I think it's not too expensive.
Denise Phegley: No.
Sharon Powers: Uh another point is the L_C_D_ screen. Um I don't know if that will rise the cost too much,
Ana Avila: Y
Sharon Powers: because
Ana Avila: i um I think we'll have to choose between the docking station or the screen, 'cause
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Ana Avila: it's uh
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: It will be too much as well.
Suzanne Welk: I think since a lot of people indicated that a new remote control is hard to learn, and we're focusing on elderly people here which tend to have a hard time understanding new devices, it might be a good idea to have just a little screen on it, which would explain a button if you press it. Which would tell you what it does.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: And it wouldn't have to be touchscreen or
Sharon Powers: Based.
Suzanne Welk: a very expensive
Denise Phegley: Okay.
Suzanne Welk: screen, but
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Just the L_C_D_. Oh just the normal screen.
Suzanne Welk: Just a small
Sharon Powers: That's a good
Suzanne Welk: screen
Sharon Powers: idea.
Suzanne Welk: with two
Sharon Powers: So Some extra info. Feedback.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: I think that's a good idea as well.
Suzanne Welk: But I dunno if that would
Sharon Powers: As the small
Suzanne Welk: that would
Sharon Powers: screen.
Suzanne Welk: fit into the costs.
Sharon Powers: Extra button info. I think that should be possible as well. Um let's see what did we say. Mm. More. Should be fancy to, fancy design, easy to learn. Few buttons, we talked about that. Docking station, L_C_D_. Um general functions Yeah. 'Kay. And default materials. I think that's a good idea as well, because um elderly people don't mind if it's a titanium cover or just a plastic one. So
Suzanne Welk: No.
Sharon Powers: that
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: doesn't really matter. So I think
Suzanne Welk: I think
Sharon Powers: we
Suzanne Welk: probably
Sharon Powers: nee
Suzanne Welk: elderly people would be a little bit more careful with their remote controls than youngsters.
Sharon Powers: Uh let's um specify the target group. Because are we talking about elderly elderly people or people from forty to eighty. Because I think what we're going to design now is for people above sixty, maybe.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Uh what do we want?
Suzanne Welk: I think
Sharon Powers: If we want um a with uh for example the the telephone for elderly people, we can target the real elderly people.
Suzanne Welk: I think that would be a If we should do something like that it would be a, I think it would be really good for uh for the image of the company.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Suzanne Welk: And I think, I think there would be a good market for it.
Sharon Powers: So that's
Suzanne Welk: If
Sharon Powers: the
Suzanne Welk: we're able to really bring an innovative product.
Sharon Powers: Now you're talking about sixty to eighty for example.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah the really
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Suzanne Welk: But
Sharon Powers: Sixty.
Suzanne Welk: I'd have to look into that a little more.
Sharon Powers: Okay. And different cultures. Are we
Ana Avila: Well I don't think they have different television sets uh
Denise Phegley: Mm.
Sharon Powers: Okay.
Ana Avila: in uh every country.
Sharon Powers: No.
Denise Phegley: No.
Ana Avila: 'Cause
Sharon Powers: We've got five minutes
Denise Phegley: So
Sharon Powers: left just
Denise Phegley: 'Kay.
Sharon Powers: now.
Suzanne Welk: 'Kay.
Sharon Powers: Small warning.
Suzanne Welk: And with uh the little screen in it, which explains the buttons.
Sharon Powers: Should
Suzanne Welk: You could I think we n it would be a lot easier to adapt it to different cultures.
Sharon Powers: Yeah. In different languages, you
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: know.
Ana Avila: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Yeah.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: or you have to put a
Denise Phegley: Right.
Sharon Powers: language button in it, but that will be
Denise Phegley: No.
Sharon Powers: a bit unnecessary
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: I think.
Suzanne Welk: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: It's better to put it on different markets with it all.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Ana Avila: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: Okay. So that's the the target. Uh then a few small things. Uh okay. I will put the minutes in the project uh project document folder. Um what we're going to do for the next meeting is Ana Avila will do the components concept, User Interface Designer the user interface concept, and the trend-watching. So just keep in mind the things we've said about the target group, uh requirements, and the trends which are uh going on. And uh specific instructions will be sent to you by uh the personal coach.
Suzanne Welk: 'Kay.
Sharon Powers: So um I thank you for this meeting. And I think we have a lunch-break now.
Suzanne Welk: That's good.
Denise Phegley: Yeah.
Sharon Powers: So that's a good thing. | Sharon Powers stated the agenda and Suzanne Welk discussed what functions are most relevant on a remote, what the target demographic is, and what his vision for the appearance of the remote is. Suzanne Welk also brought up the idea to include a docking station to prevent the remote from getting lost and the idea to include an LCD screen. Denise Phegley pushed for a user-friendly interface with large buttons, a display function, a touchscreen, and the capability of controlling different devices. Ana Avila discussed the interior workings of a remote and Sharon Powers briefed the team on some new requirements they are to abide by. The team then discussed teletext, the target demographic, the buttons the remote should have, the idea of marketing a remote designed for the elderly, an audio signal which can sound if the remote is lost, LCD screens, and language options. | 0 | amisum | test |
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Maria Hinson: Ah cool. Okay. So that's my name, Uh we're going to make uh a remote control, you already know that. Just have a look, are we going to uh this agenda of our meeting. You know, this is about twenty five minutes, this meeting. So um the thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do, you also read what this the things or,
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Maria Hinson: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: it now.
Maria Hinson: This a new page, it's okay. Use pen format. and a different colour can use here no I just take the pink. You take oh there's no pink, okay, oh
Grace Leer: Purple.
Maria Hinson: just purple, okay. No blue. And uh line width ten. Okay uh just take what I'm going to draw is an elephant. Just draw slowly, because otherwise it won't work. It's a very nice elephant, you can see. I dunno what it looks but it doesn't matter.
Grace Leer: Looks very nice.
Maria Hinson: I just h Something like this? Oh no Yeah,
Jennifer Crockwell: It look
Maria Hinson: okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: like a dinosaurs.
Maria Hinson: Because I like uh okay.
Grace Leer: A pink elephant.
Maria Hinson: Just takes so long, okay. Whatever, just. You erased this one. It's a bit slow you can see, this is a bit annoying.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Okay, so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want.
Jennifer Crockwell: Let
Maria Hinson: Just
Jennifer Crockwell: Jennifer Crockwell try one.
Maria Hinson: don't um yeah, just u use it like that, yeah. That's okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: and then uh what's the colour? How do I do
Maria Hinson: It's in format. Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Ah. I'll take this one.
Jennifer Crockwell: Uh
Maria Hinson: Just
Jennifer Crockwell: there has to be water, but
Maria Hinson: No it has to be an animal, so if that's
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah
Maria Hinson: it's
Jennifer Crockwell: yeah,
Maria Hinson: it should
Jennifer Crockwell: but
Maria Hinson: be a shna
Jennifer Crockwell: it's an
Maria Hinson: snake
Jennifer Crockwell: animal
Maria Hinson: or something.
Jennifer Crockwell: it's an
Maria Hinson: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: animal
Maria Hinson: Okay
Jennifer Crockwell: that lives
Maria Hinson: okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: in the water.
Grace Leer: The
Maria Hinson: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: So I
Sara Miller: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: first uh draw the water.
Grace Leer: water is important.
Jennifer Crockwell: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal.
Jennifer Crockwell: It's a fish.
Maria Hinson: Okay,
Sara Miller: Wow.
Maria Hinson: cool.
Jennifer Crockwell: Mm-hmm.
Jennifer Crockwell: So. Um This is a worm.
Maria Hinson: Hmm yeah, that's nice.
Sara Miller: Wow.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay, who next?
Maria Hinson: Uh
Jennifer Crockwell: Uh
Maria Hinson: do you have to write down why uh that doesn't matter, just it's to get used to the whiteboard, but it's okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Just make a new blank new blank page.
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Well Paul?
Grace Leer: Yeah. Like this?
Maria Hinson: Yeah, not too far to the to the t pen top.
Grace Leer: Okay. Um let's make it um a dog.
Grace Leer: Ooh.
Maria Hinson: Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back, so that no, to the yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: I
Grace Leer: Ah
Jennifer Crockwell: think
Grace Leer: okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: it's a pig.
Grace Leer: A pig? I
Maria Hinson: No,
Grace Leer: can
Jennifer Crockwell: Or
Maria Hinson: it's
Grace Leer: make.
Jennifer Crockwell: a
Maria Hinson: a
Jennifer Crockwell: dog.
Maria Hinson: dog.
Jennifer Crockwell: A sheep?
Grace Leer: Um
Maria Hinson: Uh we d only have twenty five minutes, so.
Sara Miller: Take it easy.
Grace Leer: 'Kay, I make a cat of it.
Sara Miller: I I was gonna make a cat too.
Maria Hinson: Use your fantasy.
Grace Leer: Oh, not too quick.
Maria Hinson: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have
Grace Leer: No I have it.
Maria Hinson: okay.
Grace Leer: I just draw too quick I think. Okay, that's it. More.
Maria Hinson: No, that's okay, thank you.
Grace Leer: It's just to get used to it.
Sara Miller: Okay.
Maria Hinson: I thought these pens would be just um uh you write it down and you download it to Word, you already did it or no?
Jennifer Crockwell: No.
Maria Hinson: No, not yet,
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: okay.
Grace Leer: that's right, it but
Maria Hinson: But
Grace Leer: you
Maria Hinson: it's
Grace Leer: actually
Maria Hinson: just
Grace Leer: got to write on the paper.
Maria Hinson: Sorry?
Grace Leer: You really got to write on that
Maria Hinson: Yeah, I
Grace Leer: paper.
Maria Hinson: know, but
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah yeah,
Maria Hinson: I
Jennifer Crockwell: it's
Maria Hinson: d I
Jennifer Crockwell: a real pen.
Maria Hinson: I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: Word, so
Grace Leer: but it's
Maria Hinson: that's
Grace Leer: just
Maria Hinson: not
Grace Leer: a picture.
Maria Hinson: just it's just a picture.
Jennifer Crockwell: Oh.
Maria Hinson: So
Grace Leer: You
Jennifer Crockwell: Y
Grace Leer: really
Jennifer Crockwell: you can
Maria Hinson: th thought it would be.
Jennifer Crockwell: you can't edit in the edit it in Word.
Grace Leer: No.
Maria Hinson: No.
Jennifer Crockwell: Oh, okay.
Grace Leer: It's a donkey.
Maria Hinson: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure.
Grace Leer: Uh I think it was uh
Maria Hinson: Half past.
Jennifer Crockwell: Half past ten.
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Brilliant.
Maria Hinson: Okay,
Sara Miller: Nice,
Maria Hinson: perfect.
Sara Miller: eh?
Jennifer Crockwell: Yep.
Maria Hinson: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so.
Maria Hinson: Oh this is definitely the best one.
Sara Miller: Uh.
Maria Hinson: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros.
Sara Miller: Excuse
Maria Hinson: Okay,
Sara Miller: Jennifer Crockwell.
Maria Hinson: that's. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe.
Grace Leer: Piece of cake.
Maria Hinson: The production cost are about half the price of selling price, sorry.
Grace Leer: Uh easy.
Maria Hinson: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything, so just have a look how it we think about remote controls.
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control?
Maria Hinson: Oh yeah, that's a good question.
Jennifer Crockwell: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart.
Maria Hinson: I think it's I'm not
Jennifer Crockwell: So
Maria Hinson: I'm
Jennifer Crockwell: I
Maria Hinson: not sure, it's not mm
Sara Miller: Yeah, it probably
Maria Hinson: I think
Sara Miller: would be universal.
Grace Leer: Universal.
Jennifer Crockwell: Because
Grace Leer: And only television? Or more devices?
Maria Hinson: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so not sure, but
Sara Miller: Hmm, maybe,
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah, I know
Sara Miller: I don't
Jennifer Crockwell: uh
Sara Miller: know.
Jennifer Crockwell: you can buy a re a universal uh control
Maria Hinson: Okay,
Jennifer Crockwell: for
Maria Hinson: so
Jennifer Crockwell: uh
Maria Hinson: we we just
Jennifer Crockwell: only twenty
Maria Hinson: say we
Jennifer Crockwell: uh
Maria Hinson: just
Jennifer Crockwell: Euros
Maria Hinson: say that's universal remote
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: control.
Grace Leer: Ah
Jennifer Crockwell: I
Grace Leer: okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: think.
Maria Hinson: Okay, perfect.
Sara Miller: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and
Maria Hinson: Yeah, everything just
Sara Miller: okay.
Maria Hinson: so a lot of buttons on the remote control.
Sara Miller: Yeah, probably.
Grace Leer: Not just a T_V_.
Maria Hinson: No, just everything.
Grace Leer: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: so yeah, what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not nothing very special, but um
Grace Leer: Well we can try to make it special.
Maria Hinson: yeah, that's right. So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability
Grace Leer: Well
Jennifer Crockwell: Well I
Maria Hinson: or
Jennifer Crockwell: th
Maria Hinson: user
Jennifer Crockwell: I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared
Maria Hinson: Hmm yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: uh thing must be from very good quality.
Maria Hinson: That's right. Should be a good point.
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Sara Miller: Okay.
Grace Leer: Nothing
Sara Miller: And how
Grace Leer: N
Sara Miller: big should
Jennifer Crockwell: No.
Sara Miller: it be?
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah. I dunno um
Grace Leer: It shouldn't be too big, but I don't think we can make it too small, 'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so.
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.
Maria Hinson: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: that's it.
Grace Leer: Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: it opem.
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer,
Jennifer Crockwell: Yes
Grace Leer: maybe more trendy.
Maria Hinson: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can
Grace Leer: Fold
Maria Hinson: fold
Grace Leer: open,
Maria Hinson: open.
Grace Leer: where
Maria Hinson: Okay,
Grace Leer: you can see
Maria Hinson: yeah, that's
Grace Leer: uh
Maria Hinson: cool.
Grace Leer: more options.
Jennifer Crockwell: Ah that's
Grace Leer: I
Sara Miller: Yeah
Maria Hinson: Maybe
Grace Leer: think
Jennifer Crockwell: that's
Maria Hinson: for
Sara Miller: n
Maria Hinson: the D_V_D_ pla player or something,
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: if
Grace Leer: something
Maria Hinson: you just
Grace Leer: uh
Maria Hinson: okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Ah
Sara Miller: Yeah,
Jennifer Crockwell: right
Grace Leer: on
Sara Miller: or
Grace Leer: top,
Sara Miller: you c
Grace Leer: just dren
Jennifer Crockwell: right.
Grace Leer: general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often.
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Oh
Sara Miller: O or
Jennifer Crockwell: that's good,
Sara Miller: you could
Jennifer Crockwell: yeah.
Sara Miller: th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control.
Grace Leer: Yeah b
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah.
Grace Leer: I wanted
Maria Hinson: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control?
Sara Miller: Uh
Maria Hinson: There are buttons
Sara Miller: maybe
Maria Hinson: on
Sara Miller: be
Maria Hinson: it.
Sara Miller: uh
Grace Leer: No
Sara Miller: it's
Grace Leer: you can
Sara Miller: it's
Grace Leer: make an uh manual in it.
Sara Miller: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.
Maria Hinson: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: But it's
Jennifer Crockwell: but
Maria Hinson: not
Grace Leer: But
Sara Miller: Uh
Maria Hinson: t t
Sara Miller: like
Maria Hinson: t
Grace Leer: that's
Maria Hinson: too expensive
Sara Miller: a a to
Maria Hinson: to
Sara Miller: have
Maria Hinson: put a
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: touchscreen
Grace Leer: I
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah
Grace Leer: think
Maria Hinson: on
Sara Miller: Yeah,
Grace Leer: it's
Maria Hinson: it.
Grace Leer: much
Jennifer Crockwell: but
Sara Miller: maybe it
Grace Leer: uh
Sara Miller: would.
Grace Leer: too
Jennifer Crockwell: it's
Grace Leer: expensive.
Jennifer Crockwell: not reachable I think, touch screen. And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control,
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: it get
Maria Hinson: So.
Jennifer Crockwell: often uh broken.
Maria Hinson: And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: too
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah
Grace Leer: too
Maria Hinson: fragile
Grace Leer: fragile.
Jennifer Crockwell: and a
Maria Hinson: uh
Jennifer Crockwell: lots
Maria Hinson: fragile.
Jennifer Crockwell: uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh
Maria Hinson: No.
Jennifer Crockwell: kids uh
Maria Hinson: You can put games
Sara Miller: Kid-proof.
Maria Hinson: on your remote control. Whatever.
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Um
Sara Miller: And uh how about the batteries? Uh should you put it in a recharger or a
Maria Hinson: Oh maybe
Jennifer Crockwell: Ma
Maria Hinson: that's
Sara Miller: just
Maria Hinson: a good idea,
Jennifer Crockwell: maybe
Maria Hinson: just to
Jennifer Crockwell: a
Maria Hinson: put
Jennifer Crockwell: home
Maria Hinson: it on
Jennifer Crockwell: station.
Maria Hinson: your
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: television and just s recharge, you
Sara Miller: Mm
Maria Hinson: never
Sara Miller: yeah.
Maria Hinson: have to use any
Grace Leer: Maybe
Maria Hinson: batteries.
Grace Leer: that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think.
Maria Hinson: Yeah, how
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: m how mu how how expensive
Sara Miller: Yeah, I dunno.
Maria Hinson: uh is a normal recharger?
Grace Leer: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger?
Maria Hinson: I dunno.
Sara Miller: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone
Jennifer Crockwell: Ah
Sara Miller: it's
Jennifer Crockwell: yeah.
Sara Miller: probably expensive, but I don't know what the project uh projection
Grace Leer: Maybe
Sara Miller: costs
Grace Leer: have
Sara Miller: are
Grace Leer: uh
Sara Miller: for such
Maria Hinson: Uh
Sara Miller: a
Maria Hinson: if
Sara Miller: thing.
Maria Hinson: you th look at the market, it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: it's too expensive.
Grace Leer: 'cause
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: well
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is, and now
Maria Hinson: Yeah,
Jennifer Crockwell: you can put
Maria Hinson: that's
Jennifer Crockwell: it always
Maria Hinson: right,
Jennifer Crockwell: at the same
Maria Hinson: yeah.
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: place.
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive.
Grace Leer: Maybe uh use it as a separate option.
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah.
Grace Leer: Sell it uh separately.
Jennifer Crockwell: You can yeah, you can buy it with
Sara Miller: Yeah,
Jennifer Crockwell: it.
Sara Miller: but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh
Grace Leer: Rechargeable.
Sara Miller: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Sara Miller: just put it in the station, or you can change your batteries,
Jennifer Crockwell: Oh yeah.
Sara Miller: so.
Maria Hinson: The option, just the option, that's
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: cool.
Jennifer Crockwell: Uh I I set something on paper already, size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top,
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: uh it
Grace Leer: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: has to lay good in the hand, you you have to uh
Maria Hinson: Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: form
Jennifer Crockwell: I don't
Maria Hinson: than
Jennifer Crockwell: I
Maria Hinson: a normal
Jennifer Crockwell: don't know
Maria Hinson: remote control
Jennifer Crockwell: I don't
Maria Hinson: or
Grace Leer: Well
Jennifer Crockwell: know if
Grace Leer: I think
Jennifer Crockwell: we
Grace Leer: we have to look at that, 'cause well you can do the standard way, but then
Jennifer Crockwell: You can
Grace Leer: you
Jennifer Crockwell: make
Grace Leer: won't
Jennifer Crockwell: it very special, to create our own
Maria Hinson: Yeah
Jennifer Crockwell: um looks, but it's very hard to
Sara Miller: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works.
Jennifer Crockwell: Nah.
Grace Leer: Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block,
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see. But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well.
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Grace Leer: So it
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Grace Leer: doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think, so you can do something unique with that.
Sara Miller: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you can still uh do the
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah yeah, what
Sara Miller: th the
Jennifer Crockwell: Paul
Sara Miller: functions.
Jennifer Crockwell: already said. Uh
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: Yeah, just
Jennifer Crockwell: on
Maria Hinson: for the
Jennifer Crockwell: on
Sara Miller: But
Jennifer Crockwell: top
Maria Hinson: T_V_
Jennifer Crockwell: are the
Sara Miller: n
Maria Hinson: and just
Sara Miller: yeah,
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: the normal
Sara Miller: but
Jennifer Crockwell: the
Maria Hinson: function,
Grace Leer: yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: basic
Sara Miller: uh
Maria Hinson: that's
Jennifer Crockwell: options
Maria Hinson: fine.
Sara Miller: i
Jennifer Crockwell: on top, and
Sara Miller: basically
Jennifer Crockwell: if you fold it
Sara Miller: when
Jennifer Crockwell: open
Sara Miller: I'm
Maria Hinson: But
Sara Miller: watching
Maria Hinson: maybe
Sara Miller: T_V_
Maria Hinson: it's
Sara Miller: I'm just using like five buttons or so,
Grace Leer: Yeah. That's
Sara Miller: so.
Maria Hinson: maybe it's
Grace Leer: what
Maria Hinson: very
Grace Leer: I meant.
Maria Hinson: hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called?
Jennifer Crockwell: Mm. If you if
Grace Leer: Uh
Jennifer Crockwell: if you make
Maria Hinson: Maybe
Jennifer Crockwell: to fold
Maria Hinson: it's hard
Jennifer Crockwell: open
Maria Hinson: t
Jennifer Crockwell: it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a
Maria Hinson: No,
Jennifer Crockwell: normal
Maria Hinson: that's right. So
Jennifer Crockwell: uh
Maria Hinson: maybe
Jennifer Crockwell: remote
Maria Hinson: we have
Jennifer Crockwell: control.
Maria Hinson: to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control.
Grace Leer: Okay, but yeah.
Maria Hinson: Just think
Sara Miller: Yeah.
Maria Hinson: about it. We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so.
Sara Miller: Okay.
Maria Hinson: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to what you have to do?
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Yeah.
Jennifer Crockwell: Um for m for Jennifer Crockwell uh Jennifer Crockwell, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the
Grace Leer: No, what you want to do with it.
Maria Hinson: Yeah, I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Also from a user, but
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: all
Jennifer Crockwell: it's also
Maria Hinson: these things together.
Jennifer Crockwell: about strength
Maria Hinson: Yeah,
Grace Leer: Yeah,
Maria Hinson: everything.
Jennifer Crockwell: and
Grace Leer: I
Jennifer Crockwell: uh
Grace Leer: also wrote down some
Jennifer Crockwell: for
Grace Leer: stuff
Jennifer Crockwell: everything
Grace Leer: that you want
Jennifer Crockwell: uh.
Maria Hinson: Yeah,
Grace Leer: on a
Maria Hinson: no maybe not not uh, that's not a f that's something for for
Grace Leer: Technical
Maria Hinson: for yeah.
Grace Leer: fun fu
Maria Hinson: That's not for you.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Just if what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of
Grace Leer: What
Maria Hinson: uh buttons
Grace Leer: do you want
Maria Hinson: do
Grace Leer: to
Maria Hinson: you
Grace Leer: do
Maria Hinson: have.
Grace Leer: with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control. I
Maria Hinson: Yeah,
Grace Leer: already
Maria Hinson: it's alright.
Grace Leer: wrote some down, some ideas.
Jennifer Crockwell: Yep.
Maria Hinson: Yeah, just is that okay?
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay.
Grace Leer: Yep.
Sara Miller: Okay.
Maria Hinson: Okay.
Grace Leer: There's already a document in the folder
Jennifer Crockwell: Yeah,
Grace Leer: about
Jennifer Crockwell: Jennifer Crockwell too.
Grace Leer: it.
Maria Hinson: So see you in thirty minutes.
Jennifer Crockwell: Okay, well
Grace Leer: Okay.
Jennifer Crockwell: done.
Sara Miller: Okay.
Maria Hinson: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so your laptop.
Grace Leer: I will.
Jennifer Crockwell: Oh Paul.
Grace Leer: It didn't say that.
Maria Hinson: No, sorry.
Grace Leer: Your fault.
Jennifer Crockwell: Ciao.
Grace Leer: Bye bye.
Jennifer Crockwell: Bye bye. | Maria Hinson introduced himself and the project to the group. He presented an agenda for the rest of the project. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room materials by drawing on the board. Maria Hinson discussed the projected price point, profit aim, and production cost for the project. The group discussed their initial ideas about the product design. They decided to make the remote a universal remote. They discussed the form of the device; it was suggested that the device could have a folding-open design or a touch-screen interface. They discussed energy source options and could not decide between using standard batteries or a recharging stand. They also discussed how to make the remote look more unique; it was suggested that the remote could feature the folding-open design to hide complicated functions on the inside of the device. Maria Hinson instructed Jennifer Crockwell to prepare the user requirement specification and to research which devices the remote will control. | 0 | amisum | test |
Marjorie Bligen: Oh.
Karen Nolan: It's not saved yet.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: So
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Our beautiful.
Marjorie Bligen: So just f um
Marjorie Bligen: So is our agenda. You're F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after Sara Ferris.
Sara Ferris: Oops.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Uh I didn't Oh yeah. So these are the
Janet Wittkop: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right, just say it to Sara Ferris then. I don't have to put it in the report.
Karen Nolan: Are we doing the the speech recognition? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to, it's okay.
Karen Nolan: Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, just
Karen Nolan: Yeah, just uh we have to design the inside then, but it should
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: be
Janet Wittkop: and
Karen Nolan: uh
Janet Wittkop: Or are we making a slide open, like underneath? Or fold open? I don't know.
Marjorie Bligen: Slide open is
Janet Wittkop: It's
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Janet Wittkop: probably
Marjorie Bligen: quite
Janet Wittkop: better.
Marjorie Bligen: usable for remote controls.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and
Karen Nolan: It's
Janet Wittkop: you
Karen Nolan: may
Janet Wittkop: other
Karen Nolan: maybe
Janet Wittkop: functions.
Marjorie Bligen: Maybe
Karen Nolan: uh a
Marjorie Bligen: that's
Karen Nolan: bit stronger
Marjorie Bligen: better.
Karen Nolan: as well.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, that's that's a very good point.
Karen Nolan: Okay,
Janet Wittkop: Think
Karen Nolan: so
Janet Wittkop: that's better.
Karen Nolan: when you have a lot of room inside. So you make it very easy to use. 'Cause
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: can write a lot of comments besides it.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay. So this is okay?
Karen Nolan: No. Yeah, we're gonna use the advanced chip then.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, so that's Uh I'll just
Janet Wittkop: The
Marjorie Bligen: have a look how much that is. But um
Karen Nolan: Advanced chip
Marjorie Bligen: Okay,
Karen Nolan: was for
Marjorie Bligen: for the
Karen Nolan: uh spee Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, I
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: I think so. I don't know.
Marjorie Bligen: No, you have a different chip for speech recognition. So
Karen Nolan: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: Ah okay.
Marjorie Bligen: So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay.
Karen Nolan: Good.
Marjorie Bligen: So you can show your prototype if you want to.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Together?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, it's Let's do it together.
Karen Nolan: I'll give comments.
Janet Wittkop: Okay. Yeah we just made a Word file the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form, the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it. Uh the material should be hard plastic.
Sara Ferris: Mm-hmm.
Janet Wittkop: Uh colour changeable, and also transparent. And colour and transparent, or just transparent, I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function, on-off function, text functions. This uh switch channel.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, cool.
Janet Wittkop: And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here, and the mic.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: And the scrollwheel, no? You
Sara Ferris: Means
Janet Wittkop: operate that with your pointing finger. So you hold it like this in your right hand and
Marjorie Bligen: Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone?
Karen Nolan: Speech recognition.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, speech recognition. Just
Karen Nolan: Um
Marjorie Bligen: Only one button to say
Karen Nolan: I
Marjorie Bligen: it's
Karen Nolan: didn't
Marjorie Bligen: on
Karen Nolan: have
Marjorie Bligen: or off.
Karen Nolan: a specification of that. But um
Janet Wittkop: Uh
Karen Nolan: I
Janet Wittkop: I dunno.
Karen Nolan: can imagine that you have to input your voice or something. Um
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, maybe maybe
Karen Nolan: so I've
Janet Wittkop: uh you have to configure it.
Karen Nolan: Yes, you need options to configure it, and after that you don't need 'em anymore.
Marjorie Bligen: So you can put it on the back as well if you
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: want to.
Karen Nolan: you can
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: put
Janet Wittkop: or
Karen Nolan: 'em all on
Janet Wittkop: or
Karen Nolan: the back.
Janet Wittkop: on the slide
Karen Nolan: That's for sure.
Janet Wittkop: function, I don't know.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Karen Nolan: That's
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: uh
Janet Wittkop: Well we haven't had time to design that, the slide
Karen Nolan: We also
Janet Wittkop: pad.
Karen Nolan: don't know how many buttons are required, or what kind of buttons. But You have a lot of room if you can slide it open.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, you can
Karen Nolan: You
Marjorie Bligen: put
Karen Nolan: Yeah
Marjorie Bligen: it
Karen Nolan: I know.
Marjorie Bligen: separate.
Karen Nolan: I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So But
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: it's enough room.
Janet Wittkop: Um the position? Yeah, you write uh
Karen Nolan: Uh
Janet Wittkop: You wrote
Karen Nolan: well
Janet Wittkop: this, so.
Karen Nolan: Well the main, the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing. So uh the best place, the best reach place Um on-off buttons, text buttons, mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are, easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger, uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red, 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's basically the be standard place for scrollwheel, as
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: far as I know.
Janet Wittkop: But it's not uh impossible to use it, if you're left handed. So y
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Because you can use your thumb then.
Sara Ferris: Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight
Karen Nolan: Okay
Sara Ferris: nine.
Karen Nolan: yeah, they
Sara Ferris: But you missed the no uh the zero
Janet Wittkop: Mm
Sara Ferris: and
Janet Wittkop: yeah.
Sara Ferris: uh
Karen Nolan: Yeah
Sara Ferris: the two
Karen Nolan: okay.
Sara Ferris: stripes.
Karen Nolan: That's that's
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: below
Janet Wittkop: okay.
Karen Nolan: that then. It's uh twelve
Janet Wittkop: just
Karen Nolan: buttons.
Janet Wittkop: so you get that.
Sara Ferris: Okay, but It's rather important.
Karen Nolan: Yeah okay,
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: just we just missed that. But um I'll just uh I'll get back to later. F the form well, we've taken that from the iPod, other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um The f uh the buttons creating? Uh if you That or all round shapes, not uh rounded corners.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Karen Nolan: So that, you know, you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons, uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing, the thing that lights up. We have decided uh in the the channel buttons, there's a little uh colour around it.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: And also in the num-pads, there's also colour light behind it.
Marjorie Bligen: And
Karen Nolan: So
Marjorie Bligen: do
Karen Nolan: when
Marjorie Bligen: you
Karen Nolan: you
Marjorie Bligen: still
Karen Nolan: pre
Marjorie Bligen: can, do you still can choose what colour, kind of colour you want?
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: How do you want to implement that? Just
Karen Nolan: We're
Marjorie Bligen: on the
Karen Nolan: going
Marjorie Bligen: Maybe
Karen Nolan: to
Marjorie Bligen: on
Karen Nolan: implement.
Marjorie Bligen: the second level as well?
Karen Nolan: Yeah. Mm just a little
Sara Ferris: Ah.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, these are just basic functions, so All the non-basic
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, just
Janet Wittkop: are
Marjorie Bligen: draw
Janet Wittkop: in
Marjorie Bligen: draw the second level, because we need that as well.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Um
Sara Ferris: Okay, there is one uh function I use uh daily, and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player. That
Janet Wittkop: Okay,
Sara Ferris: function
Janet Wittkop: maybe
Sara Ferris: must be
Janet Wittkop: we use this button for
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: the
Sara Ferris: maybe Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: uh
Karen Nolan: I um
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, as well.
Sara Ferris: functions.
Marjorie Bligen: Just make
Karen Nolan: To
Marjorie Bligen: make
Karen Nolan: your video
Marjorie Bligen: a
Karen Nolan: device.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something.
Janet Wittkop: A second
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: level?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Like a a new blank
Marjorie Bligen: No no,
Janet Wittkop: one
Marjorie Bligen: just
Janet Wittkop: or
Marjorie Bligen: on
Janet Wittkop: Or just
Marjorie Bligen: Down
Janet Wittkop: here?
Marjorie Bligen: there.
Karen Nolan: Is i Ah okay.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: So uh
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: And h how does
Marjorie Bligen: Just
Sara Ferris: the
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Sara Ferris: second
Marjorie Bligen: if you
Sara Ferris: level
Marjorie Bligen: s
Sara Ferris: come out? Uh it slides uh
Karen Nolan: Um slides
Sara Ferris: along?
Karen Nolan: I think.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, y
Karen Nolan: It's
Marjorie Bligen: Maybe, yeah.
Sara Ferris: From from the uh
Marjorie Bligen: For the
Karen Nolan: You can
Marjorie Bligen: bottom.
Karen Nolan: do
Sara Ferris: beneath?
Karen Nolan: it that it claps open, but I think that's not solid enough.
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Karen Nolan: If that
Marjorie Bligen: you
Karen Nolan: breaks
Marjorie Bligen: gotta
Karen Nolan: then
Marjorie Bligen: slide
Karen Nolan: you're screwed.
Marjorie Bligen: it. Yeah, it's right.
Karen Nolan: So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open. Um
Janet Wittkop: So what do we need?
Karen Nolan: Uh i the the speech functions buttons.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, just
Sara Ferris: Menu?
Karen Nolan: Menu button. With uh maybe uh arrows. So you can uh scroll in the, navigate the menu. Um
Janet Wittkop: God
Sara Ferris: Scart?
Janet Wittkop: damn it.
Karen Nolan: I think we can even put a We have one for the zero and one for the
Sara Ferris: Uh yeah.
Karen Nolan: for the more digit uh
Sara Ferris: And so y you
Karen Nolan: channels.
Sara Ferris: keep
Karen Nolan: So
Sara Ferris: you keep
Karen Nolan: you have
Sara Ferris: one,
Karen Nolan: one
Sara Ferris: you have
Karen Nolan: left for
Sara Ferris: one
Karen Nolan: the
Sara Ferris: left. Yes.
Janet Wittkop: So this is
Karen Nolan: Right,
Janet Wittkop: the
Karen Nolan: the video channel, Play Station, etcetera. That's used pretty often.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: If you have a Play
Sara Ferris: It's
Karen Nolan: Station,
Sara Ferris: a f
Karen Nolan: mm
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: you use it every day.
Sara Ferris: basic uh
Janet Wittkop: Extern or something.
Marjorie Bligen: You want to save that file as well? The drawing?
Karen Nolan: That was
Janet Wittkop: So
Karen Nolan: it.
Janet Wittkop: here are multiple speech buttons, I don't know how many.
Karen Nolan: Uh
Marjorie Bligen: Doesn't really matter.
Janet Wittkop: I don't
Marjorie Bligen: Just
Janet Wittkop: know the
Karen Nolan: It
Janet Wittkop: functions.
Karen Nolan: doesn't
Marjorie Bligen: just uh
Karen Nolan: really matter. That's
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Yeah well we don't
Janet Wittkop: What
Karen Nolan: have
Janet Wittkop: else?
Karen Nolan: any uh Hmm?
Janet Wittkop: What else?
Karen Nolan: What else? Uh menu buttons with
Janet Wittkop: Uh menu.
Karen Nolan: arrows.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, to navigate.
Janet Wittkop: Uh
Karen Nolan: S Just uh
Janet Wittkop: With arrows.
Karen Nolan: like Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have Or there.
Janet Wittkop: Like a normal um
Karen Nolan: Like on the normal uh Like this.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, with in the middle um a menu
Karen Nolan: The menu
Janet Wittkop: button.
Karen Nolan: button, yes.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Well we don't have any, anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it.
Sara Ferris: Mm okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yep.
Sara Ferris: Uh and and you can hold it, you can hold it, and then the colours switch or
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: mm multiple
Karen Nolan: Just press it once,
Sara Ferris: multiple
Karen Nolan: the
Sara Ferris: buttons.
Karen Nolan: colour should uh switch. Press again, the colour switch again maybe?
Sara Ferris: okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Or we just make it three buttons, all the colours on it. Just red, yel
Sara Ferris: Okay,
Marjorie Bligen: uh red,
Sara Ferris: yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: green
Sara Ferris: Th
Marjorie Bligen: and
Sara Ferris: Yeah. If
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: we have
Janet Wittkop: okay.
Sara Ferris: enough place, uh
Marjorie Bligen: That's
Sara Ferris: then we
Marjorie Bligen: that's
Sara Ferris: can do
Marjorie Bligen: very
Sara Ferris: that.
Marjorie Bligen: easy, yeah.
Janet Wittkop: We can put those here.
Sara Ferris: Colour buttons. And then we choose green, uh blue and red or
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Yep.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: Okay. That's uh Um
Janet Wittkop: So did we miss anything?
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: It
Karen Nolan: maybe some uh some text
Sara Ferris: Some text
Karen Nolan: next to
Sara Ferris: uh
Karen Nolan: the
Sara Ferris: buttons.
Karen Nolan: scroll wheel, that it is volume.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, but
Karen Nolan: I
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Karen Nolan: just
Marjorie Bligen: ma
Karen Nolan: uh The
Marjorie Bligen: on
Karen Nolan: volume
Marjorie Bligen: on
Karen Nolan: logo.
Sara Ferris: there's
Marjorie Bligen: o
Sara Ferris: one
Marjorie Bligen: on the
Sara Ferris: there's
Marjorie Bligen: on
Sara Ferris: one
Marjorie Bligen: the
Sara Ferris: text
Janet Wittkop: Oh
Sara Ferris: button
Janet Wittkop: wh
Sara Ferris: I
Janet Wittkop: Here?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Just make it
Sara Ferris: There's
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: one
Janet Wittkop: or
Sara Ferris: text
Janet Wittkop: th or
Sara Ferris: button
Janet Wittkop: the
Sara Ferris: I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page, uh like seven hundred, uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred, you will switch to your television and back to
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: text.
Karen Nolan: we
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: have that on the
Sara Ferris: Do you do you
Karen Nolan: the
Sara Ferris: Did
Karen Nolan: text
Janet Wittkop: Yep.
Sara Ferris: you
Karen Nolan: button.
Sara Ferris: think of that?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just
Karen Nolan: Uh
Janet Wittkop: switch it off and then
Karen Nolan: why
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: not?
Marjorie Bligen: just put it on those extra f extra function
Sara Ferris: Ex
Marjorie Bligen: as
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: well.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: No
Janet Wittkop: Well w
Karen Nolan: Whoa
Janet Wittkop: we thought of a text button. And if you press it again, you get the the the
Karen Nolan: I
Sara Ferris: The
Karen Nolan: think
Sara Ferris: sta the state
Marjorie Bligen: Oh
Karen Nolan: um
Marjorie Bligen: just
Sara Ferris: you
Marjorie Bligen: three stages,
Janet Wittkop: through view.
Marjorie Bligen: you
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: that's
Janet Wittkop: b
Karen Nolan: the three
Janet Wittkop: but
Marjorie Bligen: okay.
Karen Nolan: stages.
Janet Wittkop: but
Karen Nolan: Yes.
Janet Wittkop: if you're in the second stage, the third stage is switch teletext off. So you can switch back
Karen Nolan: No,
Janet Wittkop: from
Karen Nolan: it doesn't
Janet Wittkop: second
Karen Nolan: have
Janet Wittkop: to
Karen Nolan: to
Janet Wittkop: w
Karen Nolan: turn
Janet Wittkop: first.
Karen Nolan: it off.
Sara Ferris: No.
Karen Nolan: Just don't
Sara Ferris: Just remember where it was. It
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext
Marjorie Bligen: Yes,
Sara Ferris: on,
Marjorie Bligen: that's to remember.
Sara Ferris: you you set the seven hundred, and you turn it off, then the next time you turn it on, it still stays on
Janet Wittkop: Okay,
Sara Ferris: seven hundred?
Janet Wittkop: okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, but that's
Sara Ferris: But
Marjorie Bligen: that's
Sara Ferris: maybe
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Sara Ferris: it's not the way
Karen Nolan: I dunno if
Marjorie Bligen: That's a functionality for the television.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, I think as well, but Uh yeah.
Sara Ferris: Mm. That's maybe one
Janet Wittkop: Yeah mm nee
Sara Ferris: thing we can
Janet Wittkop: uh
Sara Ferris: discuss about.
Janet Wittkop: No, if i uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred, page seven hundred to the television.
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: Th th
Karen Nolan: in thi the
Janet Wittkop: th if
Karen Nolan: the
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: you switch it
Karen Nolan: remote
Janet Wittkop: on.
Karen Nolan: control in the
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, but
Janet Wittkop: Th
Marjorie Bligen: you have
Janet Wittkop: i
Marjorie Bligen: to
Karen Nolan: the
Marjorie Bligen: search
Karen Nolan: chip.
Marjorie Bligen: every time again. That's what what happening if you do it like that.
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: But
Karen Nolan: that's true.
Marjorie Bligen: it's still
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: the
Janet Wittkop: I dunno.
Marjorie Bligen: television that has
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: to do that.
Karen Nolan: So yeah. Um do we need to fix that or
Sara Ferris: Mm
Marjorie Bligen: No, that's what the television
Sara Ferris: most new
Marjorie Bligen: does.
Sara Ferris: T_V_s do uh collect all the pages.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, those memory
Sara Ferris: But
Janet Wittkop: functions.
Sara Ferris: uh not not every every television, so
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay,
Janet Wittkop: Was
Marjorie Bligen: it's
Janet Wittkop: uh
Marjorie Bligen: cool.
Janet Wittkop: this logo for uh volume?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, that's fine.
Janet Wittkop: Okay. So that's it?
Marjorie Bligen: Is this prich pretty much it, yeah?
Sara Ferris: Yeah, I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons? Uh from which material are they now?
Janet Wittkop: Mm.
Karen Nolan: Just
Janet Wittkop: No no
Karen Nolan: like your telephone, hard plastic.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah. Just hard plastic.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: So
Sara Ferris: Because
Marjorie Bligen: It's too expensive
Sara Ferris: um
Marjorie Bligen: to make it from a different material
Sara Ferris: if you
Marjorie Bligen: anyway.
Sara Ferris: use it a couple of years, some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away, are uh And maybe we can write the numbers below or above? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons?
Karen Nolan: I think
Janet Wittkop: Uh
Karen Nolan: just
Janet Wittkop: I
Karen Nolan: on
Janet Wittkop: think
Karen Nolan: the buttons.
Janet Wittkop: just um
Sara Ferris: Well yeah. That's too much place.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: Okay,
Karen Nolan: I
Janet Wittkop: but
Karen Nolan: don't
Sara Ferris: just leave
Karen Nolan: think
Sara Ferris: it. Just
Karen Nolan: the space
Sara Ferris: leave it.
Karen Nolan: is worth it.
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: I think
Sara Ferris: and
Janet Wittkop: uh
Sara Ferris: i
Janet Wittkop: you have
Sara Ferris: The most
Janet Wittkop: that problem
Sara Ferris: time
Janet Wittkop: more often with rubber buttons.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, with rubber buttons. Yeah, okay. Okay. Fine.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah? Okay, cool.
Marjorie Bligen: Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah, I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, I made some criteria uh,
Marjorie Bligen: Oh okay, you
Sara Ferris: so
Marjorie Bligen: made some
Sara Ferris: we
Marjorie Bligen: criteria.
Sara Ferris: can uh
Marjorie Bligen: Okay,
Sara Ferris: ev
Marjorie Bligen: cool.
Sara Ferris: evaluate our model.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: I d d d I don't think if it's right. That shall show it.
Marjorie Bligen: You have some usability criteria or
Sara Ferris: Mm-hmm.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: Uh no, uh all criterias we just argue about. Uh Oh.
Janet Wittkop: In the bottom.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Look-and-feel?
Sara Ferris: Evaluation
Janet Wittkop: No,
Sara Ferris: crit
Janet Wittkop: evaluation is
Sara Ferris: Yeah, evaluation presentation. It's not in. Uh d it doesn't matter um It only had two pages or something. Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy, or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market. The Italians uh, how they think about it. And The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff. I made some criteria, and we have to test the criteria from one to zero. We sh we we we can give it uh a number, and then we can give ourself an average for our
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: um model. And
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: this These are all I I I found, or I wrote down. And um we have to discuss about, if we give it a one or a seven. Uh
Marjorie Bligen: Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful. It's
Sara Ferris: Yes.
Karen Nolan: Mm.
Marjorie Bligen: We are
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: actu
Sara Ferris: the the
Marjorie Bligen: We
Sara Ferris: the difference
Marjorie Bligen: are the
Sara Ferris: be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something. And fancy's more like the
Marjorie Bligen: Flashy.
Sara Ferris: mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and and that kind of stuff.
Karen Nolan: Okay. Well
Sara Ferris: The LEDs.
Karen Nolan: I think we do If it's really uh, if you can if you can get the iPod look, then it's beautiful, I think.
Sara Ferris: Yes. And
Marjorie Bligen: But
Janet Wittkop: Yeah
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Sara Ferris: and what
Janet Wittkop: beautiful's
Sara Ferris: ki what kind of
Janet Wittkop: is
Sara Ferris: what
Janet Wittkop: also
Sara Ferris: kind of basic
Janet Wittkop: a matter of
Sara Ferris: colours
Janet Wittkop: taste.
Sara Ferris: uh were you thought uh of?
Karen Nolan: Hmm?
Sara Ferris: The basic colours are black or green or yellow? Or you
Karen Nolan: Um
Sara Ferris: haven't
Karen Nolan: basic
Sara Ferris: thought about
Karen Nolan: colours, um yeah. Well you didn't
Sara Ferris: Ho
Karen Nolan: say.
Sara Ferris: how do we make uh
Karen Nolan: Maybe um company colours?
Marjorie Bligen: It's black.
Sara Ferris: Black
Karen Nolan: Black.
Sara Ferris: and yellow.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: A bit
Sara Ferris: Can
Marjorie Bligen: yellow
Karen Nolan: a bit
Marjorie Bligen: light.
Karen Nolan: of yellow.
Marjorie Bligen: Do we have yellow light? No, not really, but
Karen Nolan: Not
Marjorie Bligen: it's possible.
Karen Nolan: not not yellow,
Marjorie Bligen: It's
Karen Nolan: but just a bit of light yellow.
Sara Ferris: Black white, maybe?
Karen Nolan: Like white, also ni or uh always
Janet Wittkop: And
Karen Nolan: nice.
Janet Wittkop: what colours
Sara Ferris: Uh
Janet Wittkop: should the buttons be?
Sara Ferris: Because um
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, different colours. This is
Karen Nolan: Just um
Marjorie Bligen: Oh, the same as th th the cover. But also th the
Janet Wittkop: But
Marjorie Bligen: light behind
Janet Wittkop: can
Karen Nolan: Yes.
Janet Wittkop: you change
Marjorie Bligen: it.
Janet Wittkop: those too, with uh
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Janet Wittkop: the switch?
Marjorie Bligen: no. Make them No, just make them black or grey or something.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, grey. Just dark grey I think.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Okay, so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful? Beautiful is uh really subjective, uh because it has to do lots with the colours.
Karen Nolan: Well we have changeable fronts, so
Sara Ferris: Changeable fronts, so ev for everyone for
Karen Nolan: So
Sara Ferris: everyone it's something beautiful.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, just
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: give it a one. It's okay. It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not?
Karen Nolan: It's hard to decide for us, but
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: yeah.
Janet Wittkop: It's ju
Karen Nolan: It
Janet Wittkop: so
Karen Nolan: it's
Janet Wittkop: subjective.
Karen Nolan: At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, just give it a two.
Sara Ferris: A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Okay. uh really fancy I think.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: One
Sara Ferris: So
Janet Wittkop: more thing. Are w are we changing uh Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too? Or n no back light?
Sara Ferris: Slide panel?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah?
Karen Nolan: Mm.
Marjorie Bligen: No.
Karen Nolan: Not
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Karen Nolan: needed.
Marjorie Bligen: it's only on the number, behind the numbers
Karen Nolan: Yeah, not
Marjorie Bligen: and
Karen Nolan: needed
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Karen Nolan: I
Janet Wittkop: And
Karen Nolan: think.
Janet Wittkop: and the switch channel is uh
Sara Ferris: Oh,
Janet Wittkop: There is
Marjorie Bligen: That
Janet Wittkop: a back
Marjorie Bligen: as
Janet Wittkop: light
Marjorie Bligen: well,
Janet Wittkop: too?
Sara Ferris: you mean th
Marjorie Bligen: yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: this here?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, but that's unnecessary.
Karen Nolan: What do I think is necessary necessary
Sara Ferris: It's
Karen Nolan: item?
Sara Ferris: pretty cool. If you slide it open, it lights up. That's that's really
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: fancy, but I don't know if it's reachable.
Karen Nolan: Of course it's reachable.
Marjorie Bligen: It doesn't
Sara Ferris: Then
Marjorie Bligen: make
Sara Ferris: we do it.
Janet Wittkop: Hmm.
Karen Nolan: Okay, maybe just some light uh to to light it all up. So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons
Marjorie Bligen: No.
Karen Nolan: or something.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Just a green light or some blue light. To
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: light it all up.
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: but
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah. Mayb
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: just backlight. Not not the buttons. And
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons, but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Well yeah. Uh semi-transparent.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, just
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: only Yeah, that's right.
Sara Ferris: Okay, fine.
Marjorie Bligen: So
Sara Ferris: So I I think it's very fancy.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, that's
Sara Ferris: So I'll
Marjorie Bligen: how
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: I
Sara Ferris: give
Marjorie Bligen: think.
Sara Ferris: it a
Karen Nolan: w we've done a a lot of detail in light, so
Sara Ferris: Yeah, and you can
Marjorie Bligen: Ye
Sara Ferris: uh also choose your light, so
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, this
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: It is a one. It's okay.
Sara Ferris: I think
Marjorie Bligen: It's cool.
Sara Ferris: it's one. Okay, next.
Marjorie Bligen: This is a difficult one, because
Sara Ferris: Learnable?
Marjorie Bligen: we we
Sara Ferris: Easy
Marjorie Bligen: don't
Sara Ferris: to use?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, we don't know it about the
Sara Ferris: Yeah, we shall test it But uh
Marjorie Bligen: Uh it's it's very easy to use, but
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: uh the second layer is not easy to use. It's That's
Janet Wittkop: No, but you
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: don't have to use that. And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer. That's
Marjorie Bligen: No.
Janet Wittkop: th that's the main thing that's so good
Karen Nolan: So
Janet Wittkop: about
Karen Nolan: I think
Janet Wittkop: it.
Karen Nolan: it's easy to use, but And learnable
Sara Ferris: Learnable?
Karen Nolan: is a bit
Sara Ferris: It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control.
Janet Wittkop: Well,
Sara Ferris: Because
Janet Wittkop: I think it
Karen Nolan: Well
Janet Wittkop: is.
Sara Ferris: because I
Karen Nolan: y
Sara Ferris: think
Karen Nolan: just
Sara Ferris: I think
Karen Nolan: uh
Sara Ferris: the scroll
Karen Nolan: f
Sara Ferris: wheel, uh it's very handy, but the first time you get this thing in your hands, it's not to use the scroll wheel. I think uh you must uh seek for it, and up or down or Uh
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: then
Marjorie Bligen: the rest of it is very
Sara Ferris: the
Marjorie Bligen: easy,
Sara Ferris: re
Marjorie Bligen: because there are so so
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: n
Karen Nolan: I think it's very clear
Janet Wittkop: So
Karen Nolan: what it
Janet Wittkop: so
Karen Nolan: all does.
Janet Wittkop: few information that you can
Karen Nolan: Yes.
Janet Wittkop: easily decide
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: what buttons w for what function.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: But the second parts, uh like speech, etcetera, that will be harder to learn.
Marjorie Bligen: So
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: it is learnable um f i
Sara Ferris: But
Marjorie Bligen: i In the first place
Karen Nolan: It's
Marjorie Bligen: it's very easy to use. And
Karen Nolan: Yeah
Marjorie Bligen: I think
Karen Nolan: it's
Marjorie Bligen: its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well, if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: of
Sara Ferris: But
Karen Nolan: Device.
Marjorie Bligen: uh
Sara Ferris: we we've got the
Marjorie Bligen: device.
Sara Ferris: two so two uh two or three uh new things, huh? And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech, uh the scroll wheel, and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls. 'Cause
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: I
Marjorie Bligen: yeah.
Sara Ferris: think learnable is a l a less than um easy to use. Because
Karen Nolan: Okay.
Sara Ferris: easy to use comes after
Marjorie Bligen: Okay,
Sara Ferris: learnable.
Marjorie Bligen: just Easy
Sara Ferris: I I
Marjorie Bligen: to use
Sara Ferris: think
Marjorie Bligen: is
Sara Ferris: it
Marjorie Bligen: very
Sara Ferris: a three
Marjorie Bligen: cool
Sara Ferris: or
Marjorie Bligen: so,
Sara Ferris: something.
Marjorie Bligen: just give it a two.
Karen Nolan: Maybe three then. Learnable's
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Janet Wittkop: Mm
Marjorie Bligen: but definitely
Janet Wittkop: uh.
Marjorie Bligen: better, much better than uh than uh
Janet Wittkop: The normal.
Marjorie Bligen: than avera
Karen Nolan: Yeah okay.
Marjorie Bligen: average, yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know
Karen Nolan: Yep, true. Then a two.
Sara Ferris: Oh.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: New features. Techno technological innovative?
Janet Wittkop: The speech function and
Sara Ferris: The
Janet Wittkop: the colour.
Sara Ferris: speech function
Karen Nolan: And
Sara Ferris: is
Karen Nolan: the
Janet Wittkop: Colour.
Karen Nolan: scrollwheel,
Sara Ferris: new. The scrollwheel
Karen Nolan: backlights,
Sara Ferris: and the slide. Uh
Karen Nolan: slide.
Sara Ferris: I think the slide
Marjorie Bligen: Slide
Sara Ferris: is
Marjorie Bligen: is
Sara Ferris: pretty
Marjorie Bligen: not n
Sara Ferris: new.
Marjorie Bligen: is is not new. No. I
Sara Ferris: Uh
Marjorie Bligen: already
Sara Ferris: I only
Marjorie Bligen: have
Sara Ferris: saw
Marjorie Bligen: a
Sara Ferris: it in a telephone, not in an
Marjorie Bligen: Uh I
Sara Ferris: remote
Marjorie Bligen: already
Sara Ferris: control.
Marjorie Bligen: have a V_C_R_ and it's about from
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it. So
Karen Nolan: But also slide
Marjorie Bligen: that's not
Karen Nolan: that
Marjorie Bligen: new.
Karen Nolan: buttons come out, as
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: well? Okay.
Sara Ferris: Okay, and the the the lightning?
Marjorie Bligen: That's cool.
Sara Ferris: Is that new?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah for a
Sara Ferris: The lighting's
Marjorie Bligen: Uh for
Sara Ferris: new.
Marjorie Bligen: a
Janet Wittkop: Mm
Marjorie Bligen: f
Karen Nolan: Yes.
Janet Wittkop: it's
Sara Ferris: Scrollwheel.
Janet Wittkop: pretty new, I think.
Sara Ferris: Speech?
Janet Wittkop: Speech is new.
Karen Nolan: Different colours, so
Sara Ferris: Yeah, different fronts for a remote control, I think that's new too.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: So we have a pretty new uh
Marjorie Bligen: There are no
Karen Nolan: That
Marjorie Bligen: games
Karen Nolan: would And
Marjorie Bligen: on
Karen Nolan: we
Marjorie Bligen: it,
Karen Nolan: didn't
Marjorie Bligen: that's that's
Karen Nolan: uh
Marjorie Bligen: It's not a one, it's a two
Sara Ferris: It's
Marjorie Bligen: again.
Sara Ferris: it's
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: it's not not L_C_D_
Karen Nolan: But
Sara Ferris: or
Karen Nolan: then
Sara Ferris: something.
Karen Nolan: we also have
Marjorie Bligen: If
Karen Nolan: the
Marjorie Bligen: you have
Karen Nolan: the home station. We are forgetting about that now, but
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Uh-oh.
Marjorie Bligen: Oh yeah, that's right.
Sara Ferris: Home-station.
Marjorie Bligen: Rechargeable.
Karen Nolan: We don't
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: recharge.
Janet Wittkop: we didn't draw that too, but
Karen Nolan: But that's more like uh now.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, just draw it afterwards.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, that's just a normal th s simple
Karen Nolan: I don't
Janet Wittkop: thing.
Karen Nolan: know.
Marjorie Bligen: If you Can you save it on the same, in the same map as the other ones? In the the
Karen Nolan: Uh
Marjorie Bligen: project uh map?
Karen Nolan: Just save, save
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: as?
Marjorie Bligen: Mm-hmm. Uh save as? No, that's not in the project.
Janet Wittkop: Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven.
Marjorie Bligen: Oh yeah, okay.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Smart
Karen Nolan: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: board. Yeah, but this one. This one is not yet in the Oh oh.
Janet Wittkop: I think it is.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, it
Janet Wittkop: No,
Karen Nolan: is.
Janet Wittkop: I think it is.
Karen Nolan: Uh untitled? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Save.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Sara Ferris: Uh
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: all
Marjorie Bligen: you still have to draw the resi
Sara Ferris: the
Marjorie Bligen: the
Sara Ferris: the seven,
Marjorie Bligen: recharger.
Sara Ferris: uh all the
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: seven.
Marjorie Bligen: And new features, so we give it a two or also again a one? No, I think i if you have games on it, then then you give you have a one.
Sara Ferris: No, we
Marjorie Bligen: But
Sara Ferris: are
Marjorie Bligen: not
Sara Ferris: not extraordinary new or something.
Marjorie Bligen: No,
Sara Ferris: Tha
Marjorie Bligen: just
Sara Ferris: tha
Janet Wittkop: Mm
Marjorie Bligen: so
Karen Nolan: N
Marjorie Bligen: it's still
Sara Ferris: that
Marjorie Bligen: a two.
Janet Wittkop: two, I think.
Marjorie Bligen: Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience? Do we like
Sara Ferris: No,
Marjorie Bligen: it?
Sara Ferris: we we we searched for uh um a young group, audience,
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, but
Sara Ferris: beneath
Marjorie Bligen: l younger
Sara Ferris: f forty.
Marjorie Bligen: than forty.
Sara Ferris: Yes.
Marjorie Bligen: So we we are exactly the targeted group.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, but did we reach, um with our uh style, the targeted audience? Th that's
Marjorie Bligen: I
Sara Ferris: my
Marjorie Bligen: think
Sara Ferris: question.
Marjorie Bligen: so, yeah. You get the fancy things for younger people. And
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: you get the the aesthetic things for older people. So you want
Janet Wittkop: and that's what attracts the
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: young audience. So
Sara Ferris: Yeah. Um
Janet Wittkop: think that's
Sara Ferris: the
Janet Wittkop: a
Sara Ferris: only
Janet Wittkop: two
Sara Ferris: point
Janet Wittkop: or
Sara Ferris: is
Janet Wittkop: a
Sara Ferris: that
Janet Wittkop: one.
Sara Ferris: we don't uh have uh uh That's that's That's this question.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, but s it That's basically not not handy. And I don't thi I don't see
Sara Ferris: Yeah, this. So
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: we targeted it? But we
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: didn't follow the latest trends.
Janet Wittkop: No. Yeah, you could
Karen Nolan: Mm.
Janet Wittkop: make a
Karen Nolan: I
Janet Wittkop: a
Karen Nolan: think
Janet Wittkop: front
Karen Nolan: we followed the latest trends.
Janet Wittkop: a front
Sara Ferris: Tha these
Janet Wittkop: that's
Sara Ferris: are
Janet Wittkop: that's
Sara Ferris: the only
Janet Wittkop: like
Sara Ferris: latest
Janet Wittkop: uh
Sara Ferris: uh
Janet Wittkop: like
Sara Ferris: trends
Janet Wittkop: a banana,
Sara Ferris: I uh
Janet Wittkop: or something.
Karen Nolan: Oh right.
Sara Ferris: get on my computer.
Karen Nolan: Well uh fruit and vegetables, yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, you get different
Karen Nolan: You
Marjorie Bligen: colours.
Karen Nolan: can different front uh
Sara Ferris: Uh yeah, th So we had
Marjorie Bligen: So
Sara Ferris: we uh have
Janet Wittkop: Like
Sara Ferris: uh
Janet Wittkop: a a
Sara Ferris: a fruit
Janet Wittkop: f
Sara Ferris: uh
Janet Wittkop: banana kind of
Sara Ferris: Oh yeah.
Janet Wittkop: front.
Sara Ferris: But spongy will never be.
Janet Wittkop: No.
Sara Ferris: So we give ourself a three or something.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Oh.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: So that's eleven.
Sara Ferris: That's uh What's the average?
Janet Wittkop: Eleven divided
Marjorie Bligen: It's
Janet Wittkop: by six.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, it is one point eight three.
Sara Ferris: A perfect score. No, I don't know.
Janet Wittkop: We're not too hard on ourselves.
Karen Nolan: This is a a power indicator.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: So you can see how far it's charged up.
Sara Ferris: And and
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Sara Ferris: you need n uh a button to call it, to let it beep.
Karen Nolan: To call. Um
Marjorie Bligen: Oh
Sara Ferris: Call
Marjorie Bligen: yeah, that's still
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, but uh we have to make a speaker then too. If you want to make it beep.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, maybe
Karen Nolan: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: we have to skip that one.
Sara Ferris: That's
Karen Nolan: No
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: no,
Sara Ferris: but
Karen Nolan: I
Sara Ferris: it
Karen Nolan: want that in.
Janet Wittkop: But we can we can do it uh underneath
Sara Ferris: No, we
Janet Wittkop: the logo.
Sara Ferris: need that. That's usable.
Janet Wittkop: If you do uh
Sara Ferris: That's really
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Sara Ferris: usable.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, th the speaker is very small as well, right?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, okay.
Sara Ferris: It's uh
Marjorie Bligen: So
Karen Nolan: Yes uh.
Marjorie Bligen: I just got a financial um You s saved it
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: or
Sara Ferris: I did save it.
Marjorie Bligen: No. Okay, let's have a look at this one here, the production cost of it. If I forgot anything, just say it to Sara Ferris. It just is a battery. Yeah, there are some that they didn't mention, because recharge is not on the list. But okay. So I think we are pretty much in the right direction, because it's twelve point three Euros.
Janet Wittkop: Mm okay. But uh
Sara Ferris: That's
Janet Wittkop: is uh
Sara Ferris: fine.
Janet Wittkop: uh
Marjorie Bligen: So this is a regular chip incl and and a sample speaker.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: So that's both.
Sara Ferris: Come on, it's perfect. Uh twelve point three point
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: three.
Marjorie Bligen: and single curved
Janet Wittkop: But
Marjorie Bligen: curved.
Janet Wittkop: but is it inc Does it include a a homestation or
Marjorie Bligen: No, that's not on the list. But that shouldn't
Janet Wittkop: Can we
Marjorie Bligen: be.
Janet Wittkop: make that for uh h twenty cents?
Karen Nolan: Yeah, we can uh
Marjorie Bligen: Probably. I just The b the button supplements, I didn't I d I was wondering if this special colour maybe was
Karen Nolan: Um
Marjorie Bligen: I'm not sure.
Karen Nolan: different fronts, but standard front won't be, yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: See it's I think
Sara Ferris: Special
Marjorie Bligen: it's okay
Sara Ferris: form,
Marjorie Bligen: like this.
Sara Ferris: yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: It's hard to say. But maybe we have to um Yeah, okay. Special colour, you can skip this one, because it's all quite normal.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: We get different ones, that's all. So you can put a recharger in it as well. But this is expensive, the sample speaker.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: This?
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, it's four.
Sara Ferris: Four. It's four Euros.
Karen Nolan: Oh, them. Is that uh included?
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: In the twelve Euro
Sara Ferris: So
Karen Nolan: or
Sara Ferris: we
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: are
Marjorie Bligen: that's included.
Janet Wittkop: It's kind of
Karen Nolan: Okay,
Janet Wittkop: weird
Karen Nolan: then
Janet Wittkop: that we
Karen Nolan: we then we need to use
Janet Wittkop: we
Karen Nolan: it.
Janet Wittkop: get this information now, afterwards. Because
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, no.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, so this is uh pretty much it this.
Karen Nolan: Damn, solar cells are uh expensive.
Marjorie Bligen: So I just want you Yeah, we just made it. So we can do the project evalu evaluation now for uh for everything together.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay. We can do some discussion about this. Was there room for creativity?
Janet Wittkop: Sure.
Sara Ferris: Yes.
Karen Nolan: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: Paul,
Janet Wittkop: Beautiful.
Marjorie Bligen: was there room for crea creativity?
Karen Nolan: Mm uh i Yeah, I think so. I think uh everyone uh already. So
Janet Wittkop: Yeah m If we got a high mark for um uh innovativeness or innovativity
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Or a different
Janet Wittkop: then
Sara Ferris: style.
Janet Wittkop: there
Karen Nolan: I think
Janet Wittkop: we
Karen Nolan: we
Janet Wittkop: probably
Karen Nolan: uh discussed
Janet Wittkop: have been
Karen Nolan: a lot
Janet Wittkop: creative.
Karen Nolan: of things about it. So
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: Yeah. We could make a lot of different uh remote controls.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Sara Ferris: So it's creativity.
Janet Wittkop: Huh.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, so the leadership Was there a leadership and
Karen Nolan: Of course there was.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay. What do you have to say about that?
Janet Wittkop: No,
Sara Ferris: Who was the leader?
Janet Wittkop: I think Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: I dunno.
Janet Wittkop: Just normal discussion, I think. Not
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: one leader or something.
Karen Nolan: One leader to check the time, etcetera.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah. And make notes.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, I know.
Karen Nolan: So more like a secretary.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay, next one. Uh team work um The the third meeting I think that one was pretty hard. We were not all We were not um
Sara Ferris: Yeah
Marjorie Bligen: agree with every
Sara Ferris: yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: not
Sara Ferris: We
Marjorie Bligen: agree
Sara Ferris: were not
Marjorie Bligen: with.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: finished.
Janet Wittkop: w we
Marjorie Bligen: We're
Janet Wittkop: had
Marjorie Bligen: not finished.
Janet Wittkop: so much information,
Sara Ferris: Uh.
Janet Wittkop: that we get through email and just
Karen Nolan: Uh I think we we got wrong information at the wrong time. I think that was the m biggest problem.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Like uh the prices. If we knew that before, we could have uh
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, th
Karen Nolan: had
Janet Wittkop: that's
Karen Nolan: discussion
Janet Wittkop: weird.
Karen Nolan: really uh s really quicker.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, because the prices uh could be twenty Euros or something
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Sara Ferris: now.
Karen Nolan: and if
Sara Ferris: And
Karen Nolan: you
Sara Ferris: then
Karen Nolan: had uh fifteen Euros, then we would it. We had
Janet Wittkop: Hmm
Karen Nolan: to
Janet Wittkop: hmm yeah.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah, finance.
Janet Wittkop: So we're bacal basically just lucky to uh
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: get the price right.
Marjorie Bligen: But the teamwork was okay.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, uh everybody could speak their uh opinion. And uh
Karen Nolan: I think uh everyone listen to each other.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Like marketing said things and then we had to i include them in the design.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah. 'Kay. Yeah, what I have to say about uh means. The smart board is okay. Digital pen is horrible. I dunno if you use it. But if you want to download it to your computer, it's
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: It
Marjorie Bligen: doesn't
Karen Nolan: was
Marjorie Bligen: work.
Karen Nolan: Just doesn't work.
Marjorie Bligen: No.
Karen Nolan: Well uh
Sara Ferris: Digital pen or
Karen Nolan: smart board would be very uh
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: nice to work with, if it worked really well.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, i
Karen Nolan: Just
Janet Wittkop: if
Karen Nolan: not
Janet Wittkop: if
Sara Ferris: Yeah,
Karen Nolan: work
Janet Wittkop: it would
Karen Nolan: too slow.
Janet Wittkop: be faster,
Sara Ferris: the drawings
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: it would be
Sara Ferris: are
Karen Nolan: more accurate.
Janet Wittkop: great.
Sara Ferris: are hard to make, I think.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, it's i It should be more accurate.
Sara Ferris: Precise.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: And uh I think it would be great if you could edit it from, just with a mouse, from where you're sitting.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Not just pointing
Marjorie Bligen: It's
Karen Nolan: out
Marjorie Bligen: the same
Karen Nolan: on it.
Marjorie Bligen: for the presenta for the presentations. You can do it from here. That's much easier than standing there.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: And so you've
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, and p just point with a mouse.
Karen Nolan: No use to draw on the board itself. It's just slows down.
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah. Just old fashioned kinda
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: blackboard style. But
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: you
Marjorie Bligen: like.
Janet Wittkop: might as well do it in normal computer style.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, even harder to draw like
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: this than
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: black board style.
Janet Wittkop: And it's far too slow this way.
Karen Nolan: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Karen Nolan: You cou You could draw on it, but not as main function.
Janet Wittkop: No.
Marjorie Bligen: I think Yeah, okay.
Sara Ferris: Digital pen.
Marjorie Bligen: So we made it in time. And we made a remote control.
Karen Nolan: We did it.
Marjorie Bligen: In the budget, yeah.
Karen Nolan: New ideas found.
Sara Ferris: New ideas.
Janet Wittkop: What's that?
Karen Nolan: Oh
Sara Ferris: For for for
Marjorie Bligen: I don't know what it mean. Just
Karen Nolan: I just think if we uh
Sara Ferris: To gather, or to uh work together, uh or new ideas for
Karen Nolan: I dunno.
Marjorie Bligen: For remote control probably. No, for the project.
Karen Nolan: For remote control, a favourite for your text.
Janet Wittkop: Hmm.
Sara Ferris: No, for the prototype. New ideas.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, but still, you couldn't make a fancy a f you couldn't make a a prototype out of this. Because we don't have any sizes and
Marjorie Bligen: Yeah. But it's for the next team.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah,
Marjorie Bligen: We don't
Karen Nolan: That's
Janet Wittkop: but
Marjorie Bligen: have to
Janet Wittkop: it
Karen Nolan: for.
Marjorie Bligen: do
Janet Wittkop: You
Marjorie Bligen: that.
Janet Wittkop: can't possibly do that in such a short time, I think.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, this this is just the idea phase, the
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, just brainstorming basically.
Karen Nolan: Yeah. Details uh
Janet Wittkop: So are we finished?
Sara Ferris: Hmm.
Marjorie Bligen: Yes, I think just I just write a final report.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Quite early.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Marjorie Bligen: No, we have only four minutes left. Uh it's okay.
Janet Wittkop: Oh okay.
Karen Nolan: Oh, what do we have to do now. Do we uh I thought we were done at four o'clock?
Janet Wittkop: It's now quarter past three. So
Karen Nolan: Yep.
Sara Ferris: I should take some pictures uh.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay.
Karen Nolan: Mm we can do it afterwards,
Sara Ferris: Yes.
Karen Nolan: so
Sara Ferris: Let's play minesweeper.
Karen Nolan: Yeah. I found it as well.
Sara Ferris: Ti-din ti-din.
Karen Nolan: One two three four five six seven cameras. Mm not bad.
Karen Nolan: So that was it.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah. Now we can look at this.
Karen Nolan: This is
Janet Wittkop: We're probably not supposed to look at this, but
Karen Nolan: The old versions.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, from the previous group.
Karen Nolan: They went for uh for a universal
Janet Wittkop: The touchscreen,
Karen Nolan: device.
Janet Wittkop: yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, but also a different device.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: Then an L_C_D_ uh would be handy.
Janet Wittkop: Hmm. Here are the basic functions in here, the selecting dev devices.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, and touch screens for all our stuff, yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Hmm.
Karen Nolan: I do agree with that.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, tu-dum. English is not so hard by the way.
Janet Wittkop: No.
Sara Ferris: I'm breaking a world record here.
Karen Nolan: Well, leader?
Sara Ferris: Oh
Karen Nolan: Project
Sara Ferris: shit.
Karen Nolan: Manager?
Sara Ferris: We've got a problem, Paul.
Karen Nolan: You do? Yeah,
Sara Ferris: Yes.
Karen Nolan: you have to make a choice.
Sara Ferris: No it's your choice.
Karen Nolan: Wow, that's pretty quick.
Sara Ferris: Tu-dum.
Karen Nolan: Uh uh um
Sara Ferris: Just pick one.
Karen Nolan: You have to decide. It's the lower one.
Sara Ferris: What's this? A bomb or
Karen Nolan: No no,
Sara Ferris: not
Karen Nolan: the upper one
Sara Ferris: a
Karen Nolan: is the bomb.
Sara Ferris: bo This the bomb?
Karen Nolan: Yes.
Sara Ferris: Wrong. Shit.
Karen Nolan: I knew it.
Sara Ferris: I knew it.
Sara Ferris: Four in a row.
Karen Nolan: No.
Sara Ferris: Uh.
Karen Nolan: That's too much work. Come on.
Sara Ferris: Is that previous work?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, this one.
Karen Nolan: I challenge you.
Sara Ferris: Oh, that's so stupid. No, that doesn't work.
Karen Nolan: No, you gotta use the magic pen. Hmm. What if I put one there?
Sara Ferris: That's stupid.
Karen Nolan: We'll see.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Karen Nolan: I don't agree.
Sara Ferris: Mm.
Sara Ferris: Sorry.
Karen Nolan: Yeah, you had two choices. That's gonna be draw. Or not.
Janet Wittkop: Hmm.
Sara Ferris: Too bad.
Karen Nolan: I'll put it here.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, then
Karen Nolan: You
Sara Ferris: I
Karen Nolan: are
Sara Ferris: put
Karen Nolan: going
Sara Ferris: it
Karen Nolan: to
Sara Ferris: there.
Karen Nolan: put it there. Then
Sara Ferris: No one wins.
Karen Nolan: It's a difficult choice, either here or there.
Janet Wittkop: This is a very interesting design.
Karen Nolan: Ugly.
Sara Ferris: It's just the same as normal.
Karen Nolan: Oh a pen.
Janet Wittkop: Well it has a L_C_D_,
Karen Nolan: Yeah,
Janet Wittkop: I
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: think.
Karen Nolan: but Then do it correctly.
Sara Ferris: Stupid
Janet Wittkop: And
Sara Ferris: design.
Janet Wittkop: what
Sara Ferris: Stupid.
Janet Wittkop: else do
Karen Nolan: Stupid,
Janet Wittkop: we have?
Karen Nolan: the L_C_D_ screen.
Sara Ferris: 'Kay wait, I'm going to draw something and you must y
Karen Nolan: What? Okay, I'm going to guess what you're drawing.
Sara Ferris: Okay, blank.
Karen Nolan: No no, the new one.
Sara Ferris: Oh.
Karen Nolan: Uh they just don't save it.
Sara Ferris: Um I know uh.
Karen Nolan: A house? Yeah, you have to use the pen s stupid.
Marjorie Bligen: You have to save everything, you know that, huh?
Karen Nolan: No, not everything.
Sara Ferris: Oh.
Janet Wittkop: Yeah, everything.
Karen Nolan: Pen, select
Sara Ferris: Pen.
Karen Nolan: select pen.
Janet Wittkop: It wants to know what we do in our spare time.
Karen Nolan: Okay. It's a house. A plant?
Sara Ferris: No, it's Only you can know it.
Karen Nolan: Oh yeah, I can know it. It's a
Sara Ferris: It's uh very hard to draw.
Karen Nolan: Okay, that makes it easier. I think I know. No, wrong.
Sara Ferris: Mm.
Karen Nolan: I think I know what you're trying to draw, but it's wrong already.
Sara Ferris: It's very
Karen Nolan: Yeah, you missed the right side.
Sara Ferris: Fuck. F
Karen Nolan: No, you're wrong, you're wrong
Sara Ferris: A little bit maybe, but
Karen Nolan: See where you're wrong now? The entrance.
Sara Ferris: Yeah.
Janet Wittkop: Warning. Finish meeting now.
Karen Nolan: Alright.
Sara Ferris: Okay, the entrance is uh more to the left.
Janet Wittkop: Warning. Warning.
Karen Nolan: You're correct.
Sara Ferris: Okay. But but but I think this part
Karen Nolan: Yeah, but I think Oh no you made another mistake.
Sara Ferris: Oh. Yeah, there are a lot of mistakes, because the walls are thick like this.
Karen Nolan: No I w Okay, I'm not that whiny. But uh there was a big hole here as well, and
Sara Ferris: Oh,
Karen Nolan: there
Sara Ferris: that's
Karen Nolan: as well.
Sara Ferris: true. Uh here.
Karen Nolan: That's a kinda big mistake.
Sara Ferris: Yeah, they're walking behind the walls.
Karen Nolan: Warning, finish meeting now. Guys, I think we have to finish the meeting.
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Sara Ferris: 'Kay this is a hard one.
Karen Nolan: Uh?
Janet Wittkop: Boom-boa-ring-bing.
Karen Nolan: What does it say?
Janet Wittkop: Fill in the questionnaire. What now?
Karen Nolan: Come on.
Marjorie Bligen: Okay,
Janet Wittkop: Okay.
Marjorie Bligen: yeah.
Karen Nolan: Yep.
Sara Ferris: Okay.
Janet Wittkop: No more chit-chat.
Karen Nolan: Oh you gotta finish
Sara Ferris: Che-che-che-che.
Karen Nolan: over there?
Janet Wittkop: Yeah.
Karen Nolan: In your own room?
Sara Ferris: Tu-dumm.
Karen Nolan: I'm gonna be so lonely.
Sara Ferris: Uh.
Karen Nolan: Mm I'll clean that up later.
Sara Ferris: This is That's my new interface.
Karen Nolan: What's that?
Sara Ferris: That's a uh edited smiley.
Sara Ferris: Tom-ti-dom. Uh.
Janet Wittkop: Okay. | Marjorie Bligen presented the agenda and the minutes from the previous meeting. The group discussed speech recognition , whether the remote should slide open or fold open, and what type of chip they should use. The designers presented the prototype, which resembles an ipod in appearance, and is made of transparent coloured plastic. The colours will be changeable. The remote has both buttons and a scroll wheel. The number buttons have a back-light. The group discussed adding extra buttons/functions. The prototype was evaluated and received an average overall score of 1.8. Marjorie Bligen went through the finances, and the total cost came to 12.3 euros, although this did not include the cost of the recharger, which was not on the price list. The group evaluated the project process, and were generally pleased with their creativity and teamwork, but were unsatisfied with the equipment. | 0 | amisum | test |
Kim Wells: Good morning.
Kim Wells: Sorry? Yeah, busy job.
Kim Wells: Good morning.
Kim Wells: So Oh, good morning everyone.
Florence Yates: Good morning.
Dawn Manning: Good morning.
Kim Wells: I'd uh like to welcome you to our first meeting. I've prepared a little presentation. My name is and uh I hope you will introduce yourself uh in a few minutes, as will I. Um I'm Kim Wells of this project, and uh, well I will tell you on what actually is the project. This is uh the agenda for our first meeting. Um this is the opening, then we will get I will hope we will get acquainted to each other. We'll do a little tool training with these two things. We'll take a look at the project plan. Uh there will be time for discussion. Actually we have to discuss because we have to create a product. And then we will close this session. Um but first of all we I'd like to uh introduce you to this room. Um as you probably have noticed there are little black uh fields on the table. Um you have to put your laptop exactly in that field so the little cameras can see your face. Um there are cameras everywhere around the room especially here for your face, of course, and this isn't a pie, it's a a set of microphones and there are microphones here also. But please uh don't be afraid of them. They won't hurt you.
Dawn Manning: Well
Kim Wells: Um well uh I said I'm Kim Wells and uh I'm hoping uh for a good project and uh I'd like to hear uh who you are and what your functions are uh on this project. Let's start with the ladies.
Dawn Manning: Well uh I'm and my uh function is User Interface Design, I think. So uh that's Bertha Barrows.
Florence Yates: Okay, uh I'm uh I'm Florence Yates and I uh hope to uh look forward to uh a very uh pleasing uh end of this uh project.
Kim Wells: Okay, so
Dawn Manning: Bertha Barrows too.
Kim Wells: I.
Bertha Barrows: My name's. I'm uh Marketing Expert My. job is in the company to promote company or promote products to the customers. So I also h hope we have a pleasant uh working with uh with each other.
Kim Wells: Okay, well we have some expertise from uh different pieces of the of the company. That's good. Um well I said uh we're working on a project and the aim for the project is to to create a to design a new remote control which uh has to be original, trendy and of course, user friendly. And uh I hope we have the expertise to create such a project such a product. Um the way we hope to achieve that is uh the following methods. It consists of three phases, namely the functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. As you can see, all of these phases consists of two parts, namely individual work part and a meeting where we will discuss uh our work so far. Okay. But first I will uh tell you something about the tools we have here. I already talked about the cameras and microphones, but they are not of uh much use to us. Uh we will have to take advantage of these two things. They are smart boards. As you can see, you can give a presentation on them. And uh this one here is a white board. I will uh instruct you about that soon. Um as you also noticed uh this presentation document is in our uh project folder and every document you put in this folder uh is uh it is possible to show that here in our meeting room. Um and yeah there are available on both smart boards but I think we will uh mainly use this one for the documents in the shared folder. As you can see, this is the same tool bar uh as is located here. Um the most functions uh we will use will be to to add a new page, um uh to go back and forward between pages, and of course uh to save it every now and then. Um and this is the pen with which you can draw on the board, for instance like this if everything's okay, but I first have to put it on the pen, you see I'm new to it too. Um and then you can
Dawn Manning: Oh.
Kim Wells: write things like test or whatever you want. As you can see you have to move it a little bit slow, it's not such a fast board, it's a smart board but also a slow board. Uh but you can write things and of course you can also, when you click here, uh erase things, so we have uh est left. And um you can also delete an entire page, but we ask you not to do that. Just simply create a new one and uh start all over because we want to save all the results. Um does everyone understand this
Dawn Manning: So
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Dawn Manning: we
Florence Yates: Yeah.
Dawn Manning: can't erase
Kim Wells: nice application?
Dawn Manning: anything.
Kim Wells: Well you can erase it with the eraser, but uh you shouldn't delete an entire page, but just
Dawn Manning: Right.
Kim Wells: create a
Bertha Barrows: S
Kim Wells: new blank one. I will delete this one now because we don't use it yet.
Dawn Manning: Alright.
Kim Wells: But you can of course erase when you make a mistake, but don't uh delete entire pages. And you can also um let's see I think it's here uh change the uh colour of your pen, for instance take a blue one and uh change the line width like to five. Um that's what you will need for our first exercise, because I'm uh going to ask you to draw your favourite animal. It's also to gets to know each other because um
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: I'm asking three things, uh for that uh drawing, to do it on a blank sheet, with different colours and I just showed you how to pick a colour, pen widths which I also showed you. Um and a favourite characteristic can be just uh one word. Well I'm not very good at drawing, but I will uh go first and um try to draw Or maybe you should guess what I'm drawing, eh.
Bertha Barrows: Good.
Florence Yates: Hmm.
Bertha Barrows: No.
Dawn Manning: It's a sheep.
Bertha Barrows: Dinos
Florence Yates: Seal,
Bertha Barrows: Dinosaur.
Florence Yates: a seal.
Bertha Barrows: Beaver.
Florence Yates: A be
Dawn Manning: A beaver.
Kim Wells: Well
Dawn Manning: It's
Kim Wells: it uh
Dawn Manning: weird.
Kim Wells: could be everything.
Florence Yates: Mm. With a tail and a mouth.
Kim Wells: Maybe when I put on
Dawn Manning: It has wings?
Bertha Barrows: Turtle.
Kim Wells: this thing it could be a turtle,
Florence Yates: Snail.
Kim Wells: or a snail, and
Dawn Manning: Well the snail doesn't have legs.
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: But a turtle has. And those are slow. And I hope our project group will not be slow, but we will uh work to a good result and do it uh as fast as we can. Okay, time for another animal. Would you like to go next?
Florence Yates: Sure.
Bertha Barrows: No problem. No problem.
Dawn Manning: Oh right.
Bertha Barrows: Mm. It was four months?
Bertha Barrows: Nice, okay.
Dawn Manning: Well.
Florence Yates: The hell.
Bertha Barrows: To make it a little bit easier.
Dawn Manning: It's a giraffe.
Florence Yates: Make that cute.
Bertha Barrows: No, it's a giraffe. 'Kay. I think it's r uh to recognise as
Dawn Manning: Yes.
Bertha Barrows: a giraffe.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Dawn Manning: Giraffe.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, the favourite charis characteristic is that the long neck, it can reach everything. And I hope I can also reach a lot with this project. So that's my favourite animal.
Kim Wells: Okay.
Bertha Barrows: Anything else you need
Kim Wells: Could
Bertha Barrows: to
Kim Wells: you
Bertha Barrows: know?
Kim Wells: write the words, uh underneath it?
Bertha Barrows: Oh,
Kim Wells: Or more words.
Bertha Barrows: uh
Florence Yates: Tall.
Bertha Barrows: Tall. So, 'kay.
Dawn Manning: Should I uh Alright. So I can draw, but uh Uh. Well. Oh.
Florence Yates: B
Bertha Barrows: It's a mouse.
Florence Yates: Bunny rabbit.
Bertha Barrows: A bunny rabbit.
Dawn Manning: Oh wrong one. Uh. Well uh you can guess what it is, I hope.
Bertha Barrows: Uh-huh. No problem.
Dawn Manning: It's a rabbit.
Kim Wells: Little rabbits.
Dawn Manning: And uh well uh it's uh quick, I guess.
Dawn Manning: That's uh my uh favourite animal.
Kim Wells: Okay,
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: thank you. And our final drawing.
Bertha Barrows: Bob Ross.
Bertha Barrows: Dolphin.
Dawn Manning: A dolphin.
Florence Yates: Okay, um.
Florence Yates: Uh I uh draw I I've drawn a dolphin because of its intelligence. One of the
Dawn Manning: Right.
Florence Yates: most intelligent uh
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: animals in our world.
Dawn Manning: Well.
Florence Yates: Yeah
Dawn Manning: With
Florence Yates: intelligent.
Dawn Manning: an E_.
Florence Yates: I've I've uh Eraser.
Dawn Manning: You can try out the eraser now.
Florence Yates: Pen. Well not perfect, but okay.
Kim Wells: Okay, well thank you very much. I can see we have some uh drawing talent uh in this group,
Dawn Manning: Not
Kim Wells: huh?
Dawn Manning: really.
Kim Wells: Well, nice animals, nice words. Sounds good. Um back to business, back to the money part. Um from the finance department I have learned that we are aiming for a selling price of twenty five Euros. And we're hoping for a aim of fifty million Euros and uh we are hoping to achieve that uh by aiming for an international market. And the production cost will be twelve Euro fifty max. Okay, well it's time uh for some discussion. I've wrote down some examples here of what we can can speak about. Uh what's your experience with remote controls, um what kind of ideas do you have to design a new remote control, maybe for which market segments should we aim, or should we aim for all segments. Uh well actually I'd like to hand the word uh back to you. What's your experience with remote control?
Florence Yates: A
Dawn Manning: I
Florence Yates: lot
Dawn Manning: always
Florence Yates: of buttons.
Dawn Manning: lose them.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Florence Yates: And you always lose them.
Dawn Manning: Yes.
Florence Yates: A lot of buttons which
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Florence Yates: you don't use
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: or who you don't use
Bertha Barrows: Complex.
Florence Yates: Complex.
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Florence Yates: Not user friendly.
Bertha Barrows: No.
Dawn Manning: search for the buttons, which one is
Bertha Barrows: No.
Dawn Manning: which and uh
Bertha Barrows: Boring.
Kim Wells: Boring, it's not fun to use a
Bertha Barrows: No.
Kim Wells: remote.
Florence Yates: Mm.
Bertha Barrows: Black, all black.
Dawn Manning: Well.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Bertha Barrows: So,
Florence Yates: Black colours.
Bertha Barrows: yeah.
Kim Wells: Well maybe we should try to make it fun.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: They use batteries and batteries uh and poor signal.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Florence Yates: Uh.
Bertha Barrows: The the
Dawn Manning: Perhaps that
Bertha Barrows: angle
Dawn Manning: you have a
Bertha Barrows: you
Dawn Manning: lot
Bertha Barrows: have
Dawn Manning: of
Bertha Barrows: to use.
Dawn Manning: road remotes r road
Bertha Barrows: You had different
Dawn Manning: con
Bertha Barrows: remote
Dawn Manning: remote
Bertha Barrows: controls
Florence Yates: Yeah,
Dawn Manning: controls.
Florence Yates: different
Bertha Barrows: for
Florence Yates: remote
Bertha Barrows: different
Florence Yates: controls,
Bertha Barrows: devices.
Dawn Manning: Yes,
Florence Yates: yeah.
Dawn Manning: perhaps
Bertha Barrows: Yes.
Dawn Manning: you can integrate them or something.
Florence Yates: Uh for the use of different
Dawn Manning: Yes.
Florence Yates: uh devices.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Dawn Manning: Your
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Dawn Manning: stereo and your T_V_ and uh. Perhaps
Bertha Barrows: Yeah
Dawn Manning: that's
Bertha Barrows: but
Dawn Manning: an idea.
Bertha Barrows: then again you you still have a lot of buttons,
Dawn Manning: Yeah, that's right.
Bertha Barrows: so
Florence Yates: Yeah but
Dawn Manning: And
Florence Yates: you could
Dawn Manning: which you
Florence Yates: uh
Dawn Manning: don't
Florence Yates: I
Dawn Manning: use.
Florence Yates: thin uh there's a possibility to g uh to uh to put those buttons uh behind some uh kind of uh
Bertha Barrows: Flap
Florence Yates: protection so
Bertha Barrows: yeah.
Florence Yates: that
Dawn Manning: Right.
Florence Yates: if y y you only get to see them when you need 'em.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, okay, that's possible,
Florence Yates: That's possible, so that
Bertha Barrows: but it'll
Florence Yates: you only
Bertha Barrows: get very
Florence Yates: get the
Bertha Barrows: big the
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Bertha Barrows: the remote
Florence Yates: No
Bertha Barrows: control.
Florence Yates: n
Dawn Manning: You
Florence Yates: n no,
Dawn Manning: should
Florence Yates: just
Dawn Manning: just give it to.
Florence Yates: Uh for example you got th uh the same size uh remote control you use everyday, but um
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: the usual buttons such as uh um zapping uh as you call it in Dutch. Uh and the volume
Dawn Manning: Changing
Florence Yates: control
Dawn Manning: channel.
Florence Yates: uh are only the only possible buttons uh to use directly.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: Or uh
Bertha Barrows: numbers.
Florence Yates: the numbers, of course. But uh
Bertha Barrows: On and off.
Florence Yates: not uh the buttons used to search on the the channels on your television. You only use those uh the first time, or.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, play,
Florence Yates: So.
Bertha Barrows: pause, stop.
Florence Yates: Uh.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm. So maybe a a minimalist design,
Florence Yates: Yeah,
Kim Wells: the
Florence Yates: I
Kim Wells: least
Florence Yates: think so,
Kim Wells: uh possible
Dawn Manning: Yes.
Florence Yates: yeah.
Kim Wells: amount uh of buttons.
Dawn Manning: But you should make sure that you have every button they need on it.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm,
Dawn Manning: Because
Bertha Barrows: of
Dawn Manning: uh
Bertha Barrows: course.
Dawn Manning: things for uh teletext, I dunno
Florence Yates: Yeah,
Dawn Manning: uh, w what's
Florence Yates: uh
Dawn Manning: the name?
Florence Yates: teletext.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: think so. Okay.
Kim Wells: So you don't want to bother people with uh loads of buttons, but
Bertha Barrows: No.
Kim Wells: on the other hand they need many buttons so they don't have to get out of their seat.
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Dawn Manning: But
Florence Yates: Right.
Bertha Barrows: Because I think a market will be all kind of people. Elderly p el elderly,
Dawn Manning: But if
Bertha Barrows: young
Dawn Manning: if it's
Bertha Barrows: people,
Dawn Manning: if it's international
Bertha Barrows: so.
Dawn Manning: you should uh look in think in Britain they have uh different things they can do with the T_V_, or so uh that you can choose what you want to see. I dunno if you should uh take that in consideration, or
Florence Yates: Uh.
Dawn Manning: that you just should aim for the normal T_V_s that uh
Bertha Barrows: Yeah
Florence Yates: Yeah
Bertha Barrows: I
Florence Yates: I
Bertha Barrows: think
Florence Yates: I understand.
Bertha Barrows: that's the better
Dawn Manning: And
Bertha Barrows: one,
Dawn Manning: the B_B_C_.
Bertha Barrows: because I think if you you're going to target a lot of people and the whole world and only Britain then I think
Dawn Manning: Yes.
Florence Yates: No.
Bertha Barrows: the cost will uh rise higher than the twelve fifty, I think.
Dawn Manning: Yeah, I don't know if the
Bertha Barrows: I think
Dawn Manning: they have
Bertha Barrows: the
Dawn Manning: that anywhere
Bertha Barrows: aim is
Dawn Manning: else,
Bertha Barrows: better to
Dawn Manning: though.
Bertha Barrows: use uh the whole world and Britain,
Florence Yates: Yeah.
Bertha Barrows: yeah.
Dawn Manning: Yeah, we can leave
Florence Yates: When I think
Bertha Barrows: Not
Florence Yates: of
Dawn Manning: that.
Bertha Barrows: that
Florence Yates: it
Bertha Barrows: much.
Florence Yates: uh I think the main idea uh of this remote remote control is uh to make it user friendly. So uh I think uh when p uh when uh the customers will buy this remote control, they already have uh the remote control which uh companies uh
Bertha Barrows: Mm.
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Florence Yates: uh
Bertha Barrows: Standard
Florence Yates: with uh
Bertha Barrows: deliver.
Florence Yates: the the standards uh remote control with which comes uh with the television.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Bertha Barrows: Mm.
Florence Yates: So uh it only has to have uh the most used buttons. You don't have to integrate the buttons to search the channels on your television. In
Bertha Barrows: No
Florence Yates: those
Dawn Manning: Well but
Bertha Barrows: but
Florence Yates: in
Dawn Manning: but
Florence Yates: that
Dawn Manning: then you have to to
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Dawn Manning: find your other remote
Bertha Barrows: Yeah,
Dawn Manning: control if
Bertha Barrows: th
Dawn Manning: you want to search.
Bertha Barrows: it
Dawn Manning: That's
Bertha Barrows: it's
Dawn Manning: not
Bertha Barrows: I think
Florence Yates: Yeah but
Bertha Barrows: that's
Florence Yates: I
Bertha Barrows: not
Florence Yates: but it is impossible to uh to accommodate uh accommodate uh all the buttons on the s on the difference different
Dawn Manning: Yeah, that's
Florence Yates: televisions sets
Dawn Manning: right.
Florence Yates: on one remote control. It's impossible.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, okay.
Florence Yates: Because uh for example Sony television uh has the opportunity to s to make uh uh to make it possible for to see on one side of the screen uh teletext, and on the other side
Bertha Barrows: No.
Florence Yates: uh just
Dawn Manning: Yeah
Florence Yates: n uh regular
Dawn Manning: that's
Florence Yates: television.
Dawn Manning: uh.
Florence Yates: Uh
Bertha Barrows: I think n m n most televisions nowadays do this.
Florence Yates: Yeah, but uh they
Dawn Manning: Well
Florence Yates: don't
Dawn Manning: not everywhere.
Florence Yates: use
Bertha Barrows: So
Florence Yates: the same signal,
Bertha Barrows: I think numerals.
Florence Yates: uh on remote control. Because you can't use a Panasonic uh remote control on a on a Philips television.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, but then you have to choose the this always with r universal remotes you have to choose
Dawn Manning: Yeah, you
Bertha Barrows: the
Dawn Manning: can choose
Bertha Barrows: code.
Dawn Manning: the code.
Bertha Barrows: You
Florence Yates: Okay.
Bertha Barrows: can use which which
Florence Yates: Okay.
Bertha Barrows: type of television you have. That's no problem.
Florence Yates: Okay.
Bertha Barrows: But I think like the two pages on the same screen, like teletext and normal television, that's that's nowadays standard, I think.
Florence Yates: Okay, but uh I think that most people uh th uh will buy the remote control because because uh
Bertha Barrows: Simplicity.
Florence Yates: the first they lost the one they lost first one or
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Florence Yates: the first one is broken, so
Bertha Barrows: Yeah, yeah.
Florence Yates: uh uh perhaps they have a got a an older television,
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Florence Yates: so that option is not
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah
Florence Yates: uh
Bertha Barrows: g available.
Florence Yates: optional for those uh people.
Dawn Manning: But
Bertha Barrows: True.
Dawn Manning: the people have a new television, and c if you look into the future, then they want will
Florence Yates: Yeah,
Dawn Manning: want
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Dawn Manning: the button, if
Florence Yates: yeah.
Dawn Manning: their thing is broke.
Florence Yates: So we should take that in consideration.
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Kim Wells: Mm-hmm.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Kim Wells: Okay, well any more ideas?
Florence Yates: Oh mm, no.
Bertha Barrows: Of course.
Kim Wells: No?
Dawn Manning: Guess not.
Florence Yates: Things'll come up.
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Kim Wells: Okay, yeah well we have some time. Let's see what more I have to tell you. I don't think there is much left. Nope. We're starting to close. Um our next meeting uh will start well we're a little bit early, but our next meeting will start in in thirty minutes. In the meantime uh there's time for some uh individual actions. Um, as you can see, the different roles have uh different tasks. And there's a ping. Is it my laptop?
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Kim Wells: Yep.
Florence Yates: Stop the meeting
Kim Wells: Ah
Florence Yates: now.
Dawn Manning: Yeah meeting will close
Kim Wells: well
Dawn Manning: in five
Kim Wells: that's
Dawn Manning: minutes.
Kim Wells: good, five minutes and uh the meeting's over, uh
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: right on schedule. Um Bertha Barrows will uh will take a look at the user requirement specification. Dawn Manning will work out the technical functions design. And this was the Interface Designer? Or
Dawn Manning: Hmm
Kim Wells: the Interaction
Florence Yates: Mm.
Dawn Manning: hmm.
Kim Wells: Designer. Or what was
Dawn Manning: No
Florence Yates: No?
Bertha Barrows: Interface.
Dawn Manning: interface.
Kim Wells: it, I_D_? Interface Designer, okay, first guess was right. Uh will take a look at the the working design.
Florence Yates: No, the Industrial
Dawn Manning: No
Florence Yates: Designer
Dawn Manning: the
Florence Yates: will take
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Florence Yates: a look at the working design, and the in uh usability interaction
Kim Wells: Industrial Designer, okay,
Florence Yates: Yeah, okay.
Kim Wells: sorry.
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: Let's just use the acronyms.
Dawn Manning: So
Kim Wells: Um and of course specific instructions uh will be sent to you uh through your personal coach.
Dawn Manning: So I should look at uh what you should be able to do with the remote, or uh, or how
Kim Wells: Uh
Dawn Manning: I don't
Kim Wells: well
Dawn Manning: really
Kim Wells: those instructions will be uh
Dawn Manning: Right.
Kim Wells: in the email you will receive
Dawn Manning: Alright.
Kim Wells: uh shortly, I hope.
Dawn Manning: Bertha Barrows too.
Kim Wells: And of course you have your own uh expertise. Well uh
Bertha Barrows: Uh-huh.
Kim Wells: that was what I had to say. Uh
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: are there any more questions?
Bertha Barrows: No.
Florence Yates: No.
Kim Wells: No? Okay well I think then we have to head uh back to our offices and uh start working.
Bertha Barrows: I have one
Florence Yates: Okay.
Bertha Barrows: question.
Kim Wells: Okay, one question?
Florence Yates: Oh.
Bertha Barrows: Where does it says we have to make a remote, because I presumed She didn't know who. Okay, no, no problem.
Kim Wells: Okay we're still going.
Florence Yates: No problem.
Bertha Barrows: No
Kim Wells: Okay,
Bertha Barrows: problem.
Kim Wells: well I expect
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: everything will be much clearer with the
Bertha Barrows: Yeah.
Kim Wells: instructions we will receive uh shortly.
Bertha Barrows: Mm-hmm.
Dawn Manning: Alright.
Kim Wells: Okay well
Florence Yates: Alrighty.
Kim Wells: uh see you all in about thirty minutes, then.
Dawn Manning: Yeah.
Florence Yates: Okay.
Kim Wells: Thank you very much.
Dawn Manning: Yeah. Okay. | Kim Wells acquainted the team with the tools and equipment around them and then had the team members introduce themselves by name and what role they had in the project. Kim Wells then introduced the upcoming project along with more tools and equipment to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals. After the drawing exercise, Kim Wells talked about the project finances and production costs. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes and various features to consider when producing a remote. | 0 | amisum | test |
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, welcome to the detailed design meeting. Again, I'm gonna take minutes. Oh, we're gonna have a prototype presentation first. Uh, who's gonna give the prototype presentation? You two guys?
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay. Go ahead.
Bessie Becker: coffee.
Vickie Fuller: 'Kay, we've made a prototype Um, we've got uh uh our aspects from the last meeting. Uh, especially we looked at the form, material and the colour. Um, we've uh drawn here the p prototype. The logo is uh is uh is pretty uh obvious to see on the on the remote control, but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher. Um, our interface elements, there are shown in the drawing. Maybe you can uh point them uh The functions.
Bessie Becker: Uh well, the uh all the functions are discussed uh I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious. Uh, it's a little bit. Uh, power button. Uh then the the the nine uh channels. Uh the volume uh uh at the side, and the other side is the programmes. And then we had uh just uh two buttons, we place them in the middle, uh the menu, and for the teletext
Mabel Vasquez: Oh no,
Bessie Becker: that
Mabel Vasquez: the
Hazel Ramirez: Alright,
Bessie Becker: was th
Mabel Vasquez: the
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: the mute button misses now.
Bessie Becker: Oh,
Mabel Vasquez: Do y do
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: you
Bessie Becker: the mute
Mabel Vasquez: did
Bessie Becker: button.
Vickie Fuller: But
Mabel Vasquez: we want
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: to
Vickie Fuller: that
Mabel Vasquez: have a m
Vickie Fuller: It's
Mabel Vasquez: mute button?
Vickie Fuller: uh here
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: then, in the middle.
Hazel Ramirez: Alright,
Mabel Vasquez: Huh.
Hazel Ramirez: and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Hazel Ramirez: and
Vickie Fuller: um
Hazel Ramirez: which is the programme button.
Vickie Fuller: we've
Bessie Becker: Well,
Vickie Fuller: disc
Bessie Becker: yeah mo uh mo Yeah, well most of them are right-handed.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: Most
Hazel Ramirez: but
Vickie Fuller: of
Hazel Ramirez: you
Vickie Fuller: the users
Hazel Ramirez: you gotta make it clear on the on
Vickie Fuller: Yes, y
Bessie Becker: Yeah
Vickie Fuller: there
Bessie Becker: well,
Vickie Fuller: there will be
Bessie Becker: I
Vickie Fuller: a p a
Bessie Becker: don't
Vickie Fuller: little
Bessie Becker: have time in
Vickie Fuller: a
Bessie Becker: uh
Vickie Fuller: little
Bessie Becker: anymore
Vickie Fuller: P_ on
Bessie Becker: on the
Vickie Fuller: that and
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: a little
Hazel Ramirez: and a and
Vickie Fuller: uh
Hazel Ramirez: a triangle
Bessie Becker: Oh yeah, just
Hazel Ramirez: on that.
Bessie Becker: progr
Vickie Fuller: yeah.
Bessie Becker: programme
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Bessie Becker: above,
Hazel Ramirez: Next
Bessie Becker: I think.
Hazel Ramirez: to that I kinda miss a zero actually.
Mabel Vasquez: Wait, there's was one thing I wanted to ask. Uh, there are different ways for remote to uh do like uh d I call it teens and twenties. Uh, y
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: th th th the two numbers.
Hazel Ramirez: All n no, that's um
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: It's a television.
Bessie Becker: true,
Hazel Ramirez: kinda dependent
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: on the television.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: Uh
Mabel Vasquez: but do we have do we need extra buttons, for example
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: Uh
Hazel Ramirez: think
Mabel Vasquez: some uh some
Bessie Becker: I
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Bessie Becker: think
Mabel Vasquez: have to
Bessie Becker: so.
Vickie Fuller: yes, you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it, uh
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, I think
Vickie Fuller: th
Hazel Ramirez: you
Vickie Fuller: with
Hazel Ramirez: should
Vickie Fuller: the
Hazel Ramirez: add
Vickie Fuller: one and a double
Bessie Becker: Zero?
Vickie Fuller: uh uh
Hazel Ramirez: A cross, or whatever.
Bessie Becker: May
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but you
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: maybe
Vickie Fuller: yes.
Mabel Vasquez: don't
Hazel Ramirez: line.
Bessie Becker: here?
Mabel Vasquez: you don't actually need them, becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: one first, then
Bessie Becker: And
Mabel Vasquez: you
Bessie Becker: then
Mabel Vasquez: have
Bessie Becker: a second.
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Mabel Vasquez: a
Hazel Ramirez: that's
Mabel Vasquez: couple
Hazel Ramirez: dependent
Mabel Vasquez: of seconds
Hazel Ramirez: on the television.
Mabel Vasquez: No, I don't think so.
Vickie Fuller: Yes, you have
Hazel Ramirez: I
Vickie Fuller: televisions,
Hazel Ramirez: do know so.
Vickie Fuller: then you have to,
Bessie Becker: Is
Vickie Fuller: you
Bessie Becker: it
Vickie Fuller: know, you
Bessie Becker: depending
Vickie Fuller: have to
Bessie Becker: on television?
Vickie Fuller: uh press
Mabel Vasquez: Nah, I
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: don't think so really, because you have a I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons, but you still can, know, obviously you can still
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: select the twenty uh
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: a number in the
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: twenty
Vickie Fuller: a lot
Mabel Vasquez: or
Hazel Ramirez: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: in the
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: ten.
Hazel Ramirez: but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um they come with the television. Or actually, the other way around. But
Mabel Vasquez: No, I think uh I really think it's n because you can when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: it's the same thing as when you just push the one, because it i it first
Vickie Fuller: Yes, but
Mabel Vasquez: gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Hazel Ramirez: well
Mabel Vasquez: apply.
Hazel Ramirez: but su
Vickie Fuller: some
Hazel Ramirez: If
Vickie Fuller: televisions don't accept uh
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: that
Mabel Vasquez: because
Vickie Fuller: that
Mabel Vasquez: that's i it's for television. It's exact the same thing.
Vickie Fuller: No, no, but
Hazel Ramirez: No no no. So some
Vickie Fuller: s
Hazel Ramirez: television respond differently. Look, if uh i
Mabel Vasquez: No,
Hazel Ramirez: i
Mabel Vasquez: listen listen. When you push the button, the remote control gives a signal. I in th in the first place
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it.
Hazel Ramirez: Yes, that's
Mabel Vasquez: The one
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Mabel Vasquez: with dash, that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds, then the remote control
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: gives a signal for channel one.
Bessie Becker: True.
Hazel Ramirez: No
Mabel Vasquez: I think it works that way,
Hazel Ramirez: No, it
Mabel Vasquez: really.
Hazel Ramirez: it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it, uh if you push a one, then on your television there will appear a one and a a line,
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but it's exact
Hazel Ramirez: which is
Mabel Vasquez: the same
Hazel Ramirez: an empty space.
Mabel Vasquez: that w would
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: appear
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: when
Vickie Fuller: some
Mabel Vasquez: you put a separate button
Vickie Fuller: some
Mabel Vasquez: push
Vickie Fuller: old
Mabel Vasquez: a separate
Vickie Fuller: televisions
Mabel Vasquez: button.
Vickie Fuller: uh you have to uh click on uh a special button, uh then you go to a a next level, you can push two buttons.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but you don't
Hazel Ramirez: Yep.
Mabel Vasquez: underst uh you don't
Hazel Ramirez: True.
Mabel Vasquez: understand my point. I think
Vickie Fuller: You want
Mabel Vasquez: it's exact the same thing
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: when
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: y
Vickie Fuller: some television don't support it.
Mabel Vasquez: No, but
Bessie Becker: But
Mabel Vasquez: then
Bessie Becker: the ex
Mabel Vasquez: they would a would also support that button, because it's the same thing. Listen, with that that's that special but button you're talking about, eh? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in on your screen and a dash, which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it. When you don't have that separate button, and you push y one, it's exactly the same thing. Do y you the remote control gives that same signal
Hazel Ramirez: No, s
Mabel Vasquez: as
Hazel Ramirez: some
Vickie Fuller: No,
Mabel Vasquez: it would
Vickie Fuller: a remote
Mabel Vasquez: give
Vickie Fuller: can
Mabel Vasquez: when
Hazel Ramirez: some
Mabel Vasquez: you only
Hazel Ramirez: televisions
Mabel Vasquez: had
Hazel Ramirez: need the input first
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: uh
Vickie Fuller: Yes, so
Hazel Ramirez: and
Vickie Fuller: they
Mabel Vasquez: But
Vickie Fuller: need
Mabel Vasquez: you
Hazel Ramirez: and
Mabel Vasquez: give
Hazel Ramirez: you c
Mabel Vasquez: the input.
Vickie Fuller: no, they
Mabel Vasquez: You
Vickie Fuller: need
Mabel Vasquez: push the one. That's the same thing as the button
Hazel Ramirez: No, that's
Mabel Vasquez: with
Hazel Ramirez: not
Mabel Vasquez: the one
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Mabel Vasquez: and it
Hazel Ramirez: It's
Mabel Vasquez: yes it
Hazel Ramirez: simply
Mabel Vasquez: it is.
Hazel Ramirez: not
Mabel Vasquez: Think
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Mabel Vasquez: about it.
Hazel Ramirez: It's simply
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: No,
Hazel Ramirez: not
Vickie Fuller: but
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Bessie Becker: You
Hazel Ramirez: Uh
Bessie Becker: uh you can
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash,
Mabel Vasquez: And it's the same
Bessie Becker: and then
Mabel Vasquez: thing
Bessie Becker: wait
Mabel Vasquez: what happens
Bessie Becker: uh
Mabel Vasquez: and
Bessie Becker: two
Mabel Vasquez: a g remote
Bessie Becker: uh seconds
Mabel Vasquez: control
Bessie Becker: or something
Mabel Vasquez: gives another signal after five seconds that is just one.
Hazel Ramirez: No, remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds. Remote control is a stupid thing. If you push a button, it sends
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: it
Mabel Vasquez: that's
Hazel Ramirez: immediately
Mabel Vasquez: true.
Hazel Ramirez: to to the television.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but I m uh but it's I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the
Vickie Fuller: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: remote
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: control supplied, only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash, but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons, it still works. But okay,
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Mabel Vasquez: we
Hazel Ramirez: definitely
Mabel Vasquez: we'll impl
Hazel Ramirez: not.
Bessie Becker: We'll discuss
Hazel Ramirez: Definitely
Bessie Becker: them
Hazel Ramirez: not.
Bessie Becker: in the usability lab.
Mabel Vasquez: No, we'll apply
Bessie Becker: Uh eva
Mabel Vasquez: them then
Bessie Becker: evaluation.
Mabel Vasquez: for now.
Bessie Becker: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, app
Bessie Becker: it's
Mabel Vasquez: just apply
Bessie Becker: necessary.
Mabel Vasquez: them next to the zero, the one and the
Bessie Becker: Yeah?
Mabel Vasquez: two. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for now, if we don't know for sure whether
Bessie Becker: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: And
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Vickie Fuller: the button for the SCART uh
Bessie Becker: Ach.
Vickie Fuller: audio video uh external
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah but
Vickie Fuller: input.
Hazel Ramirez: Uh, you can access
Mabel Vasquez: okay.
Hazel Ramirez: that uh via zero, and
Mabel Vasquez: What
Hazel Ramirez: then
Mabel Vasquez: I said
Hazel Ramirez: minus,
Mabel Vasquez: about
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Hazel Ramirez: guess.
Mabel Vasquez: the remote control sending
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: another signal, that that might
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: not be true, but I still think i it it all T_V_s in some ways support it, I don't know.
Vickie Fuller: No, no.
Mabel Vasquez: I think it's more c is m maybe we don't uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works, but I think there's more to in than wha
Vickie Fuller: Uh,
Mabel Vasquez: than
Vickie Fuller: remote
Mabel Vasquez: what you
Vickie Fuller: control
Mabel Vasquez: just said.
Vickie Fuller: sends one signal at one button uh press.
Mabel Vasquez: I do think that uh m
Vickie Fuller: Uh,
Mabel Vasquez: T_V_s
Vickie Fuller: some
Mabel Vasquez: support mur multiple kind of remote
Vickie Fuller: N
Mabel Vasquez: controls.
Vickie Fuller: some televisions
Mabel Vasquez: M
Vickie Fuller: when when you want to go further than uh ten
Mabel Vasquez: Th won't work wi
Vickie Fuller: No,
Mabel Vasquez: with
Vickie Fuller: you
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Vickie Fuller: have to you have to
Mabel Vasquez: to
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: have that
Vickie Fuller: give
Mabel Vasquez: special
Vickie Fuller: the television
Mabel Vasquez: button.
Vickie Fuller: uh two or more signals. When you uh press one button, you give one signal. And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher. But
Hazel Ramirez: Yep.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, well we'll see.
Vickie Fuller: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals, it could work, but Just a basic idea of of of the most uh most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the
Hazel Ramirez: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: remote.
Hazel Ramirez: I kinda miss the docking station.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: Yes. It's here on the
Bessie Becker: Well it yeah, uh there's nothing
Vickie Fuller: We came
Bessie Becker: I
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: think it's pretty basic, the the there's
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: no fu there's
Hazel Ramirez: No
Bessie Becker: one
Hazel Ramirez: nothing
Bessie Becker: there's one
Hazel Ramirez: really
Bessie Becker: button,
Hazel Ramirez: trendy about it.
Bessie Becker: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one
Vickie Fuller: But
Bessie Becker: button
Vickie Fuller: maybe we can
Hazel Ramirez: The
Bessie Becker: when
Hazel Ramirez: button.
Bessie Becker: you want to find
Vickie Fuller: maybe
Bessie Becker: it.
Vickie Fuller: we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell, because Real Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls.
Hazel Ramirez: Yep.
Vickie Fuller: So maybe we can uh use the docking station, for example, uh M_P_ three players or or uh uh hearing devices.
Hazel Ramirez: I think that's very difficult, because of different shapes of uh
Vickie Fuller: Yes, but
Hazel Ramirez: uh
Vickie Fuller: when
Hazel Ramirez: devices.
Vickie Fuller: you put that same volt voltages on it, you can put uh when
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: the
Hazel Ramirez: of course.
Vickie Fuller: when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it, when
Hazel Ramirez: Mm-hmm.
Vickie Fuller: it's o the same as the other products, you can put it all on the same uh
Hazel Ramirez: Well it it got it it has got to fit into the shape, of course.
Vickie Fuller: Yes, but we can make
Hazel Ramirez: The technology and the voltage can be the same. That's uh that's true. But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this,
Vickie Fuller: No, we
Hazel Ramirez: then
Vickie Fuller: can
Hazel Ramirez: they
Vickie Fuller: make
Hazel Ramirez: all
Vickie Fuller: uh make
Hazel Ramirez: fit.
Vickie Fuller: the most lowest part all the same.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, that's true, but uh
Vickie Fuller: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out, we can place all on top of it.
Hazel Ramirez: Yes, but
Vickie Fuller: Just
Hazel Ramirez: uh
Vickie Fuller: have
Hazel Ramirez: I
Vickie Fuller: to
Hazel Ramirez: I
Vickie Fuller: be
Hazel Ramirez: g
Vickie Fuller: big enough for the
Hazel Ramirez: Shouldn't
Vickie Fuller: biggest
Hazel Ramirez: it fall then? It isn't going to fall down? That's a bit uh yeah, I
Vickie Fuller: No,
Hazel Ramirez: think
Vickie Fuller: when you make it large enough no it it will not. But then it's
Hazel Ramirez: No, but
Vickie Fuller: a little
Hazel Ramirez: if
Vickie Fuller: bit
Hazel Ramirez: if like this, I'll I'll point it out, if you got uh
Vickie Fuller: But
Hazel Ramirez: a
Vickie Fuller: it's just
Hazel Ramirez: a a
Vickie Fuller: an
Hazel Ramirez: base
Vickie Fuller: idea.
Hazel Ramirez: a base like this, I won't draw it really. If you got a base which is uh
Vickie Fuller: But
Hazel Ramirez: as
Vickie Fuller: it's flat
Hazel Ramirez: big as this
Vickie Fuller: it's flat as as this, so we can p make all the products
Bessie Becker: You can.
Vickie Fuller: as flat as this.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah
Bessie Becker: But
Hazel Ramirez: sure,
Bessie Becker: i
Hazel Ramirez: but
Bessie Becker: i
Hazel Ramirez: if
Bessie Becker: i
Hazel Ramirez: you
Bessie Becker: it's
Hazel Ramirez: got if
Bessie Becker: backwards.
Hazel Ramirez: you got a tiny player, it can
Vickie Fuller: Yes, but when you make uh uh
Bessie Becker: But
Vickie Fuller: a bit
Bessie Becker: it's it's
Vickie Fuller: of
Bessie Becker: backwards.
Vickie Fuller: big
Bessie Becker: It's leaning. It's leaning backwards, I think, in
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Bessie Becker: the in the
Hazel Ramirez: Uh, wha
Bessie Becker: docking
Hazel Ramirez: what
Bessie Becker: station.
Hazel Ramirez: you could do if you uh from the bottom oh, right,
Bessie Becker: That's text.
Hazel Ramirez: help.
Mabel Vasquez: But
Hazel Ramirez: Uh, you could make like a hole in it, you know,
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Hazel Ramirez: of uh in in
Vickie Fuller: little
Hazel Ramirez: the
Vickie Fuller: holer littler Uh, little
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: products go deeper
Hazel Ramirez: That
Vickie Fuller: in
Hazel Ramirez: i
Vickie Fuller: it.
Hazel Ramirez: that is possible,
Mabel Vasquez: Well let's
Hazel Ramirez: yep.
Mabel Vasquez: ha let's talk about the docking station later, because uh maybe
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: we have
Hazel Ramirez: sure,
Mabel Vasquez: we
Hazel Ramirez: you're right.
Mabel Vasquez: have to uh consider the docking station anyway, because we have some uh
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: cost
Vickie Fuller: And
Mabel Vasquez: issues
Vickie Fuller: uh uh
Mabel Vasquez: still
Hazel Ramirez: Oh.
Mabel Vasquez: to come. But we
Vickie Fuller: the
Mabel Vasquez: have
Vickie Fuller: f
Mabel Vasquez: to look
Vickie Fuller: the
Mabel Vasquez: n I
Vickie Fuller: look
Mabel Vasquez: don't
Vickie Fuller: and
Mabel Vasquez: know.
Vickie Fuller: feel would be great on this uh remote control,
Hazel Ramirez: I don't
Vickie Fuller: because
Hazel Ramirez: like the colours.
Vickie Fuller: uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in
Hazel Ramirez: Mm-hmm.
Vickie Fuller: the in the smallest uh area.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: Then your uh left thumb of uh your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button, which is the most common used uh function, and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb. So it's
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: it's it's really good design.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: Alright.
Mabel Vasquez: That's it?
Vickie Fuller: Yes, uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber, and in the middle uh there is uh a hard
Hazel Ramirez: The light.
Vickie Fuller: uh a hard material, a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it.
Hazel Ramirez: Okay. And other lights?
Mabel Vasquez: I think added lights
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: are gonna
Vickie Fuller: we can
Mabel Vasquez: be a problem
Vickie Fuller: make also
Mabel Vasquez: too.
Vickie Fuller: n neon lights on it, or or the buttons
Hazel Ramirez: No, o on
Vickie Fuller: that
Hazel Ramirez: the on
Vickie Fuller: can
Hazel Ramirez: the
Vickie Fuller: make
Hazel Ramirez: front.
Vickie Fuller: uh light
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, okay.
Vickie Fuller: on it.
Hazel Ramirez: Maybe the uh the logo.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: lights?
Vickie Fuller: But, it will also
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, why not?
Vickie Fuller: uh uh use batteries, and do we
Hazel Ramirez: Of
Vickie Fuller: want
Hazel Ramirez: course.
Vickie Fuller: to
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Bessie Becker: Mm.
Mabel Vasquez: For now, uh this is uh is good enough.
Hazel Ramirez: Okay.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, what was uh on the
Vickie Fuller: The all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, but in the oh yeah, the colour, one colour for the rubber, isn't
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: it? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons. And
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: they're be
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: a
Hazel Ramirez: Uh,
Mabel Vasquez: they'll
Hazel Ramirez: in
Mabel Vasquez: be
Hazel Ramirez: the same
Mabel Vasquez: in the same
Hazel Ramirez: colour
Mabel Vasquez: colour
Hazel Ramirez: as the
Mabel Vasquez: as
Hazel Ramirez: side.
Mabel Vasquez: the rubber on the side.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, I think
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: I think
Mabel Vasquez: And
Hazel Ramirez: that'll be
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: good.
Mabel Vasquez: think we
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: should use a a darker colour for the um plastic, and maybe some more m brighter and flashy
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: stuff
Vickie Fuller: maybe we can use
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Vickie Fuller: on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights, so it will uh
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, we'll talk about the lights later.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: 'Cause
Hazel Ramirez: Yep.
Mabel Vasquez: I also don yeah, it's depends on the costs and such.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: But uh, and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours, but may I dunno if that's important, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, for now this
Hazel Ramirez: We
Mabel Vasquez: is
Hazel Ramirez: will.
Mabel Vasquez: this is okay. Um, the next p y you gonna give a presentation too? Uh, I have to see the agenda.
Hazel Ramirez: Well,
Vickie Fuller: No.
Hazel Ramirez: uh yeah, I I'm gonna do something right there, yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Detail design.
Hazel Ramirez: We gotta do that on the right the most right-most screen, because
Mabel Vasquez: Evaluation
Hazel Ramirez: the leftmost
Mabel Vasquez: criteria.
Hazel Ramirez: Yep, that's Hazel Ramirez.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Bessie Becker: Okay.
Hazel Ramirez: Alright. I will be needing that image, so leave it please. Um Go away. Right, we're gonna evaluate that design according to a few points. Um, we g the four of us are going to do that um together. I wanna have a colour over here, come on. Right, the remote is not ugly, a bit weird sentence, but the positive things has to be on the left, so I said not ugly instead of ugly. Uh, what would you say, we we gotta give points to uh to all of these to evaluate uh that design, and please forget the drawing skills of these guys.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Hazel Ramirez: The remote control is not ugly. How do you feel?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I think four maybe would be appropriate, because it's Yeah, maybe it really depends on taste. Uh, I mean it's kind of, our design. It's
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: so
Vickie Fuller: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: if maybe a lot of people find it really ugly, you know, o other people find it really cool.
Hazel Ramirez: Background colour.
Mabel Vasquez: I don't know or uh I don't know how you
Hazel Ramirez: How
Vickie Fuller: I
Mabel Vasquez: Casting.
Hazel Ramirez: do
Vickie Fuller: think
Hazel Ramirez: you guys feel?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: I think the the fronts will give it a more uh uh uh less uglier uh side, because you can uh make
Hazel Ramirez: The different
Vickie Fuller: it in your
Hazel Ramirez: designs.
Vickie Fuller: own yes, you can
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Vickie Fuller: make it in your own uh
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: more to your own personality or or house
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: style.
Mabel Vasquez: but we d we didn't we're we're not planning to use fronts, I believe.
Hazel Ramirez: No, not not fronts, but
Mabel Vasquez: With
Bessie Becker: No,
Mabel Vasquez: a
Hazel Ramirez: different
Bessie Becker: not
Mabel Vasquez: colour
Bessie Becker: fronts.
Hazel Ramirez: designs.
Mabel Vasquez: a co a
Bessie Becker: Different
Mabel Vasquez: colours.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: designs.
Mabel Vasquez: Oh, okay.
Hazel Ramirez: And
Bessie Becker: Different
Hazel Ramirez: that's still
Bessie Becker: colours
Hazel Ramirez: uh
Bessie Becker: maybe, yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: uh, yeah, is is uh is a little
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, but
Hazel Ramirez: personal touch, I guess.
Mabel Vasquez: Oh, maybe
Hazel Ramirez: What?
Mabel Vasquez: we should do three or something that w you know, our
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, wha wha what would you uh
Vickie Fuller: Or
Hazel Ramirez: guys
Vickie Fuller: forty.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: uh think? Personally. Personally.
Bessie Becker: We can make it a one.
Hazel Ramirez: Yes, but what is it?
Vickie Fuller: I think two or three.
Bessie Becker: Mm yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Guido?
Bessie Becker: I agree.
Hazel Ramirez: Two or three.
Bessie Becker: Um,
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: I
Hazel Ramirez: was
Bessie Becker: uh I go for the positive. So I go for two.
Hazel Ramirez: I was thinking about three, so I guess
Mabel Vasquez: Uh, I was thinking about four, so I think three is uh
Hazel Ramirez: three
Bessie Becker: Okay,
Hazel Ramirez: is
Bessie Becker: three.
Hazel Ramirez: uh a bit uh oh, what am I doing? I'll mark it. The remote control's uh uh that n makes uh zapping easy.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah well, let that
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: let's make that
Bessie Becker: Two.
Mabel Vasquez: a one.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah?
Bessie Becker: One. One.
Hazel Ramirez: Antek,
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: you agree?
Bessie Becker: Okay yeah, I'll I'll
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: agree.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: That's one thing for
Hazel Ramirez: You're
Bessie Becker: I'm
Mabel Vasquez: sure.
Hazel Ramirez: not
Bessie Becker: the I'm
Hazel Ramirez: Antek.
Bessie Becker: the usability, so
Hazel Ramirez: totally agree. The remote control the remote control's relevant buttons are prominently visible.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, two or
Bessie Becker: The
Mabel Vasquez: a one, I guess. It's something we really put work into.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, I yeah. I
Vickie Fuller: It's
Hazel Ramirez: would
Vickie Fuller: all
Hazel Ramirez: say
Vickie Fuller: about
Hazel Ramirez: a one
Vickie Fuller: the buttons.
Hazel Ramirez: because uh every button is uh uh relevant. And our oh yeah, it's a b yeah. Yeah? Alright. That's a one? You agree?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: The remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons. I think we
Mabel Vasquez: But
Hazel Ramirez: totally
Bessie Becker: Well
Hazel Ramirez: succeeded there.
Mabel Vasquez: Well
Hazel Ramirez: Oh
Mabel Vasquez: maybe a two, because of the menu button
Bessie Becker: Yeah, well
Mabel Vasquez: or
Bessie Becker: menu
Mabel Vasquez: something.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, that's
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Bessie Becker: maybe.
Mabel Vasquez: And
Hazel Ramirez: That's
Vickie Fuller: Also,
Mabel Vasquez: telete
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Vickie Fuller: the the the buttons of the one, the two, the
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: the digits,
Mabel Vasquez: we don't know if the uh they're necessary.
Vickie Fuller: o
Hazel Ramirez: the the yeah, m
Vickie Fuller: they're
Hazel Ramirez: well,
Vickie Fuller: used
Hazel Ramirez: you
Vickie Fuller: uh
Hazel Ramirez: d
Vickie Fuller: uh
Hazel Ramirez: you've got a point.
Mabel Vasquez: I think a two.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, true.
Vickie Fuller: Can yes,
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: three,
Bessie Becker: I
Vickie Fuller: two.
Mabel Vasquez: Came
Bessie Becker: agree.
Mabel Vasquez: a long way,
Hazel Ramirez: Two
Mabel Vasquez: but
Hazel Ramirez: or three?
Mabel Vasquez: not we didn't not uh
Bessie Becker: Mm two.
Hazel Ramirez: Two?
Vickie Fuller: But
Hazel Ramirez: Antek.
Vickie Fuller: you can't make a remote control without them,
Bessie Becker: Because
Vickie Fuller: because
Bessie Becker: we got
Hazel Ramirez: Nay that that that's true, that's true. They're definitely needed.
Mabel Vasquez: No, w
Hazel Ramirez: So
Mabel Vasquez: w it can also always be more simplistic,
Hazel Ramirez: we put
Mabel Vasquez: but
Hazel Ramirez: it on a
Mabel Vasquez: two
Hazel Ramirez: two?
Mabel Vasquez: is yeah.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: The remote control has got a really trendy look.
Vickie Fuller: Yes. A one.
Hazel Ramirez: Maarten.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, uh
Bessie Becker: Well.
Mabel Vasquez: a t I think a two. Yeah yeah, y i it's hard to say from this picture.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: We we've tried to make it uh the the best trendy
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: look uh ever.
Hazel Ramirez: Ever, yeah. Guido.
Mabel Vasquez: But
Bessie Becker: Uh,
Mabel Vasquez: I do
Bessie Becker: I will
Mabel Vasquez: think
Bessie Becker: I
Mabel Vasquez: it's
Bessie Becker: will
Mabel Vasquez: more
Bessie Becker: make it a three, because uh yeah. I
Mabel Vasquez: But I
Bessie Becker: I
Mabel Vasquez: do
Bessie Becker: th
Mabel Vasquez: think that it's more trendy than beautiful.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, uh
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: I agree. I agree.
Mabel Vasquez: So so I think
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: maybe it has
Bessie Becker: True,
Mabel Vasquez: to score
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: higher uh on this
Hazel Ramirez: I was
Mabel Vasquez: than
Hazel Ramirez: planning
Mabel Vasquez: on the
Hazel Ramirez: to give it a two, uh where I give the not ugly uh
Mabel Vasquez: A th a three.
Hazel Ramirez: oh, yeah, that's true. You agree on the two?
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: I i uh when you compare to the
Hazel Ramirez: Great. Remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded
Mabel Vasquez: Uh uh
Hazel Ramirez: buttons.
Mabel Vasquez: what's the difference
Hazel Ramirez: Uh, I
Mabel Vasquez: with
Hazel Ramirez: copied that one. Well, uh forget that.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Hazel Ramirez: Um Go away. Remote control has got innovative technology implanted.
Bessie Becker: No.
Vickie Fuller: No.
Mabel Vasquez: No.
Bessie Becker: We're not
Vickie Fuller: No,
Bessie Becker: well, maybe the
Vickie Fuller: not
Bessie Becker: the
Vickie Fuller: L_C_D_,
Bessie Becker: the on the side.
Vickie Fuller: so.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but we uh you mean the rubber stuff?
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, and the light.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: And the
Mabel Vasquez: but
Bessie Becker: light
Mabel Vasquez: we have
Bessie Becker: maybe.
Mabel Vasquez: t
Vickie Fuller: But
Mabel Vasquez: we
Vickie Fuller: that
Mabel Vasquez: have
Vickie Fuller: that's
Mabel Vasquez: to talk
Vickie Fuller: not
Mabel Vasquez: about
Vickie Fuller: innovative.
Mabel Vasquez: the lights
Bessie Becker: But
Mabel Vasquez: uh. And
Hazel Ramirez: Well,
Mabel Vasquez: I don't
Vickie Fuller: Lights
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: u
Hazel Ramirez: g
Mabel Vasquez: also it's also really not innovative,
Vickie Fuller: lights are
Mabel Vasquez: it's more
Hazel Ramirez: It's not seven?
Mabel Vasquez: No, six.
Bessie Becker: Well, six.
Mabel Vasquez: Or seven maybe, yeah.
Bessie Becker: No, six.
Vickie Fuller: Six.
Mabel Vasquez: Or
Hazel Ramirez: Why
Mabel Vasquez: six.
Hazel Ramirez: uh why not
Bessie Becker: Six.
Hazel Ramirez: a seven?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, mine is seven.
Vickie Fuller: Because we've tried to make it a little bit innovative,
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: but it but
Hazel Ramirez: How?
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: Uh it's uh depends on the on the
Vickie Fuller: With
Mabel Vasquez: maybe
Vickie Fuller: the lights it it's it's kind of future
Mabel Vasquez: No,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: you
Mabel Vasquez: think
Hazel Ramirez: think
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: the lights
Mabel Vasquez: think
Hazel Ramirez: are
Mabel Vasquez: actually
Hazel Ramirez: innovative?
Mabel Vasquez: it's a seven maybe, but there's nothing innovative about it.
Hazel Ramirez: Well, it's n true. Uh, I agree, m but
Vickie Fuller: But still you can retrieve it when it's when it's gone, with the
Bessie Becker: Innovative in
Vickie Fuller: with
Bessie Becker: generally
Hazel Ramirez: I'll
Bessie Becker: or just
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, you
Bessie Becker: f
Hazel Ramirez: you didn't draw the
Bessie Becker: original
Hazel Ramirez: docking station.
Bessie Becker: for
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: N no
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: The docking
Mabel Vasquez: no,
Hazel Ramirez: it
Mabel Vasquez: t.
Hazel Ramirez: it's
Vickie Fuller: station
Bessie Becker: A docking
Vickie Fuller: is a
Bessie Becker: station
Vickie Fuller: is a little
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: think
Vickie Fuller: bit
Mabel Vasquez: I
Bessie Becker: is
Mabel Vasquez: mean
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: the
Bessie Becker: innova
Vickie Fuller: innovative.
Hazel Ramirez: think
Mabel Vasquez: dock station,
Hazel Ramirez: with its
Mabel Vasquez: but but uh, I think
Vickie Fuller: It's
Mabel Vasquez: the
Vickie Fuller: a part of the remote.
Hazel Ramirez: I think
Mabel Vasquez: the docking
Hazel Ramirez: more
Mabel Vasquez: station,
Hazel Ramirez: m
Mabel Vasquez: it's gonna be a kind of a problem.
Bessie Becker: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: And with the speaker
Mabel Vasquez: But
Hazel Ramirez: Uh that
Vickie Fuller: on the
Hazel Ramirez: that's
Vickie Fuller: there's
Hazel Ramirez: n
Vickie Fuller: also a
Mabel Vasquez: Well,
Vickie Fuller: speaker.
Mabel Vasquez: let's leave it open for uh for us later to see what, because we have to reevaluate anyway. Well I i
Vickie Fuller: Okay.
Mabel Vasquez: yeah. No?
Hazel Ramirez: No uh, well, the agenda says evaluate now, so I think we
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, for now it's a six
Hazel Ramirez: It's
Mabel Vasquez: or a seven
Hazel Ramirez: it's a six.
Mabel Vasquez: uh, sev six
Bessie Becker: Six.
Mabel Vasquez: maybe, because
Vickie Fuller: But the retrieval
Hazel Ramirez: That m
Vickie Fuller: or
Hazel Ramirez: f
Vickie Fuller: the
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: for the retrieval
Mabel Vasquez: but I don't
Hazel Ramirez: function.
Mabel Vasquez: I don't know if it's very inno yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah. I think that's very innovative for a
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Hazel Ramirez: remote
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: control.
Mabel Vasquez: v
Vickie Fuller: how would you innovate a remote control more?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, more through uh like function T_V_ functionalities
Vickie Fuller: To put it on your
Mabel Vasquez: and
Vickie Fuller: head.
Mabel Vasquez: no no, you know what I mean. You have must be innovative technology for remote controls, but more
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah
Mabel Vasquez: in
Hazel Ramirez: sure,
Mabel Vasquez: how
Hazel Ramirez: but
Mabel Vasquez: you control stuff, not in how you find your yeah. Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: But I
Mabel Vasquez: it's
Hazel Ramirez: d I definitely don't think
Mabel Vasquez: that's
Hazel Ramirez: it's
Mabel Vasquez: that's
Hazel Ramirez: a five,
Mabel Vasquez: think
Hazel Ramirez: but
Mabel Vasquez: about it la later on and uh
Hazel Ramirez: Remote control is easy to use.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, as a a
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: one or a two ma
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Bessie Becker: a
Mabel Vasquez: at least.
Bessie Becker: two.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: I think a two. Yeah?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, it's good.
Bessie Becker: More
Hazel Ramirez: Come
Bessie Becker: two.
Hazel Ramirez: on. The remote control hasn't got uh.
Mabel Vasquez: No, I would have seen that one before. Oh, you skipped one uh
Hazel Ramirez: I've just filled uh
Mabel Vasquez: Uh, here.
Hazel Ramirez: Go away.
Vickie Fuller: You like the buttons.
Hazel Ramirez: I found twelve questions so much, but it still is
Mabel Vasquez: Remote
Hazel Ramirez: ten.
Mabel Vasquez: control will be bought by
Hazel Ramirez: It will be bought by people under the age of forty.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Bessie Becker: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Definitely.
Vickie Fuller: In
Mabel Vasquez: Well
Vickie Fuller: in and comparing with uh people of th of
Hazel Ramirez: No
Vickie Fuller: the age
Hazel Ramirez: no no.
Vickie Fuller: above?
Mabel Vasquez: Uh,
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Mabel Vasquez: just
Hazel Ramirez: just
Mabel Vasquez: in general.
Hazel Ramirez: if they if they buy it.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, a two.
Vickie Fuller: We don't know.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: But
Mabel Vasquez: but
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, what
Mabel Vasquez: I think
Hazel Ramirez: do you think?
Mabel Vasquez: I
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: think two.
Bessie Becker: I think two, yeah. I agree.
Hazel Ramirez: Antek?
Bessie Becker: Two.
Vickie Fuller: Yes, two, but only in c when you compare it with with elderly.
Mabel Vasquez: Uh, that
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Mabel Vasquez: is
Hazel Ramirez: that's
Mabel Vasquez: not the
Hazel Ramirez: no
Mabel Vasquez: question.
Hazel Ramirez: comparison.
Mabel Vasquez: It's just w it will be bought by people under forty. Yeah, you can yeah, you can be very
Hazel Ramirez: And I don't
Mabel Vasquez: picky about
Hazel Ramirez: mean
Vickie Fuller: This
Mabel Vasquez: it.
Vickie Fuller: is
Hazel Ramirez: two
Vickie Fuller: just
Hazel Ramirez: people.
Vickie Fuller: guessing.
Mabel Vasquez: Ah yeah, just make it we'll make
Vickie Fuller: Make
Hazel Ramirez: W
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: a
Hazel Ramirez: w
Vickie Fuller: a
Mabel Vasquez: two.
Vickie Fuller: two. When it succeeds, uh it can get a two, mu
Hazel Ramirez: Right, the rem The remote control has
Mabel Vasquez: Oh
Hazel Ramirez: recognisable
Mabel Vasquez: no.
Hazel Ramirez: corporate image, colour,
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: logo or slogan.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, you have
Bessie Becker: We don't
Mabel Vasquez: make
Bessie Becker: have
Mabel Vasquez: an
Bessie Becker: the slogan though.
Mabel Vasquez: slogan is quite obvious.
Hazel Ramirez: Oh, the slogan.
Mabel Vasquez: Oh the oh
Hazel Ramirez: Can
Mabel Vasquez: sorry,
Hazel Ramirez: we see the slogan?
Mabel Vasquez: no, not not the slogan.
Bessie Becker: The logo.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: A logo.
Mabel Vasquez: you can put that on the side if if we would like
Bessie Becker: Underneath
Mabel Vasquez: to.
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Bessie Becker: it
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: or something.
Vickie Fuller: encrypted uh with
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, and I will
Hazel Ramirez: Are
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: we
Mabel Vasquez: th
Hazel Ramirez: gonna do that?
Mabel Vasquez: still think it's gonna be a two
Bessie Becker: A
Mabel Vasquez: or
Bessie Becker: three.
Mabel Vasquez: a three. Maybe
Bessie Becker: Three.
Mabel Vasquez: a three this time.
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: a three.
Hazel Ramirez: Three? I agree. Because of the slogan
Mabel Vasquez: And
Hazel Ramirez: Remote
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Hazel Ramirez: control's got a basic design intended uh for
Mabel Vasquez: Uh,
Hazel Ramirez: novice
Mabel Vasquez: it's a one
Hazel Ramirez: users.
Mabel Vasquez: or a two.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, two.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: Two?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: Two.
Mabel Vasquez: make it a two.
Hazel Ramirez: Two. Alright. We gotta add up the scores now to see our total average. Four, five, seven, nine. Forget that. Fifteen, seventeen, twenty one, twenty four, twenty six. Twenty six. It's a two point six.
Mabel Vasquez: It's not that bad.
Hazel Ramirez: Alright, we yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, and that's mostly the inno when we uh score higher on innovative technology, we would score two,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: which is
Hazel Ramirez: True.
Mabel Vasquez: uh quite a great score. Okay. Uh, this is was uh the evaluation?
Hazel Ramirez: This was my evaluation.
Mabel Vasquez: Because I
Hazel Ramirez: So
Mabel Vasquez: I still think that the most important part
Hazel Ramirez: We did
Mabel Vasquez: of this
Hazel Ramirez: a pretty
Mabel Vasquez: meeting
Hazel Ramirez: nice
Mabel Vasquez: still has
Hazel Ramirez: job until now.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Um, is this your
Vickie Fuller: Is there something
Hazel Ramirez: Whatever.
Vickie Fuller: after this uh meeting?
Hazel Ramirez: Well, I think
Vickie Fuller: Or
Hazel Ramirez: we gotta fill out
Bessie Becker: No.
Hazel Ramirez: another questionnaire.
Vickie Fuller: Okay.
Bessie Becker: Okay, yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Still opened or uh Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, finance. Because um
Bessie Becker: Shoot.
Mabel Vasquez: I received
Hazel Ramirez: A five.
Mabel Vasquez: uh a spreadsheet.
Hazel Ramirez: A five.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but I uh actually don't need this presentation, I guess. Oh.
Hazel Ramirez: Doesn't matter.
Mabel Vasquez: I'm gonna open the spreadsheet and we're gonna work this out together, because I didn't really fin uh I have a. Didn't really finish it. Well, we uh We'll see. We'll stumble upon some problems.
Hazel Ramirez: We probably will.
Mabel Vasquez: I probably have already opened it here. try it again. First of all, the mm all the docking station and costs and such are not included in this list. But let's let's st start with beginning. We include one battery. I i uh I'll explain its Uh, the the components are listed over here. Uh, price is given. We um
Hazel Ramirez: The amount, yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: yeah, we we uh indicate the amount of components of the specif specific component, how much we need of them. And then uh, we'll uh calcula Don't watch the number yet. I don't know if it's filled in properly. Okay, we need one battery. One battery. I think
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: one battery is enough. We don't need kinetic, solar cells, hand dynamo. A s okay, this this is a p first problem. Uh, I think we should know how many simple chips, regular
Vickie Fuller: Uh it's
Mabel Vasquez: chips
Vickie Fuller: it's one one chip, but but you have to choose one from it.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay. But
Vickie Fuller: The simple chip is e enough I I think, but with
Hazel Ramirez: I
Vickie Fuller: the
Hazel Ramirez: don't
Vickie Fuller: lights
Hazel Ramirez: know
Vickie Fuller: with the lights and the retrieval,
Mabel Vasquez: Where
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: did
Vickie Fuller: can
Mabel Vasquez: we
Vickie Fuller: be
Mabel Vasquez: find
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: this information?
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: Was
Hazel Ramirez: haven't
Mabel Vasquez: it
Hazel Ramirez: got an idea on on which we need to use, really.
Vickie Fuller: No, uh
Mabel Vasquez: I think
Bessie Becker: No.
Vickie Fuller: I
Mabel Vasquez: it was uh your job in the first uh meet Uh, f your first presentation to make this clear, but
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: then you
Vickie Fuller: my
Mabel Vasquez: had some
Vickie Fuller: my
Mabel Vasquez: t
Vickie Fuller: my
Mabel Vasquez: time problems.
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: But do you th you do you know what chip we need?
Vickie Fuller: The the email I got said uh simple chip, but when we put in the speaker and the retriever uh device,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: it will uh cost a a bit more, like I think the advanced chip maybe.
Hazel Ramirez: And how do you know? I mean, you got that email.
Vickie Fuller: Bec
Hazel Ramirez: Did it point out
Mabel Vasquez: Maybe you can
Hazel Ramirez: what
Vickie Fuller: No,
Mabel Vasquez: uh look
Hazel Ramirez: to
Vickie Fuller: the
Hazel Ramirez: use
Mabel Vasquez: it up
Hazel Ramirez: them
Mabel Vasquez: right
Hazel Ramirez: for?
Mabel Vasquez: now.
Vickie Fuller: they didn't know about a retriever or a
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, but
Vickie Fuller: speaker
Mabel Vasquez: okay.
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: When we
Vickie Fuller: in
Mabel Vasquez: don't
Vickie Fuller: it.
Mabel Vasquez: when we leave the uh retriever and such aside, what
Vickie Fuller: Then it's a simple chip.
Mabel Vasquez: then it would be a simple chip. And with the retriever, it would be an advanced chip.
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Hazel Ramirez: Alright,
Vickie Fuller: I
Hazel Ramirez: well,
Vickie Fuller: I I s I
Hazel Ramirez: point out the advanced chip for now, I guess.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: That will be enough
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: for
Mabel Vasquez: but
Vickie Fuller: future
Mabel Vasquez: it will
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: recommendations.
Mabel Vasquez: will it will be cause a lot of problems. The sample sensor sample speaker. What is it m is that the speaker we were t I don't know what it is.
Vickie Fuller: I don't know it uh either.
Hazel Ramirez: I don't know.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, we went for the double-curved case
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: made out of plastic and rubber. And with a special colour. I guess that's what we were
Bessie Becker: Well, special colour.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I don't know about the special colour,
Vickie Fuller: Otherwise,
Mabel Vasquez: but
Hazel Ramirez: I
Vickie Fuller: you
Hazel Ramirez: don't
Bessie Becker: I
Vickie Fuller: get
Bessie Becker: don't
Hazel Ramirez: know
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: if
Mabel Vasquez: think
Hazel Ramirez: it's
Vickie Fuller: uh
Hazel Ramirez: very special.
Mabel Vasquez: w
Vickie Fuller: a
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Vickie Fuller: standard uh plastic colour.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I think we uh
Bessie Becker: Mm
Mabel Vasquez: we have
Bessie Becker: okay.
Mabel Vasquez: special
Vickie Fuller: Standard
Mabel Vasquez: colours.
Vickie Fuller: rubber.
Hazel Ramirez: Alright, that's okay.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay,
Vickie Fuller: St
Mabel Vasquez: then the push-button, I was just counting them. Uh, I think you have to indicate the amount of push-buttons we want to use, isn't it?
Bessie Becker: Whoa, it's
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: a little
Mabel Vasquez: Well that's bit of a problem, because
Bessie Becker: That's huge.
Mabel Vasquez: I re but I really don't understand that, because I can imagine a remote control with far more push-buttons, and it wouldn't be possible according to this
Bessie Becker: No.
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Bessie Becker: We have
Mabel Vasquez: sheet.
Bessie Becker: the simplest
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Bessie Becker: buttons.
Vickie Fuller: No, it's only
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: uh when you use push-buttons, it will cost that much.
Hazel Ramirez: I don't think so,
Vickie Fuller: If you
Hazel Ramirez: because
Vickie Fuller: use a
Hazel Ramirez: it
Vickie Fuller: scroll-wheel
Mabel Vasquez: Ah.
Hazel Ramirez: says amount.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, it
Hazel Ramirez: The
Mabel Vasquez: wouldn't
Hazel Ramirez: the the yellow row is the amount
Mabel Vasquez: Fill
Hazel Ramirez: of
Mabel Vasquez: in the number of components you plan to use in the and the total cost I don't know.
Vickie Fuller: Maybe
Mabel Vasquez: I
Vickie Fuller: it's the kind of push-buttons. You can have f four kind of push-buttons. Rubber.
Bessie Becker: Uh, one til
Vickie Fuller: You
Bessie Becker: nine.
Vickie Fuller: can have
Bessie Becker: Is that
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: one or is that nine
Mabel Vasquez: And I count them
Bessie Becker: buttons?
Mabel Vasquez: like this. One two three uh four five six seven eight nine ten
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: eleven twelve and thirteen. Because Oh, this is oh, this is one, okay. Twelve, okay, then it would be eighteen, because uh, I uh rated them as uh um
Hazel Ramirez: To
Mabel Vasquez: as
Hazel Ramirez: n
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Hazel Ramirez: that's
Vickie Fuller: Different,
Hazel Ramirez: total
Mabel Vasquez: uh uh separate
Hazel Ramirez: of four
Mabel Vasquez: buttons.
Hazel Ramirez: buttons.
Vickie Fuller: yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Yes. And
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: plus
Hazel Ramirez: think
Mabel Vasquez: these
Hazel Ramirez: that
Mabel Vasquez: two, f uh plus the mute button, and it's will be uh eighteen.
Hazel Ramirez: Eighteen. One two three four five, si
Vickie Fuller: Why is that so uh expensive.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I don't understand. Y I do I don't get the point, because it's would be s relatively so expensive, just these m small buttons.
Bessie Becker: Is it cents, the the the fifty cents
Hazel Ramirez: Fifty cents
Bessie Becker: a button?
Hazel Ramirez: for one single stupid button.
Vickie Fuller: So, whe
Bessie Becker: No
Vickie Fuller: when
Bessie Becker: way.
Vickie Fuller: you so
Mabel Vasquez: Well,
Vickie Fuller: then
Mabel Vasquez: okay, well
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: well let's make it just one.
Vickie Fuller: It's eighty percent of the price of the of
Mabel Vasquez: Here,
Vickie Fuller: the
Mabel Vasquez: now
Vickie Fuller: amount
Mabel Vasquez: it's
Vickie Fuller: of
Mabel Vasquez: now it's already
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: s shall we just give our own interpretation to, because else we would really have a problem. It would be impossible to make
Hazel Ramirez: I can't
Mabel Vasquez: it
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: It's
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: way
Hazel Ramirez: I couldn't understand it if it was fifty cents per uh uh per button.
Vickie Fuller: When you have the
Hazel Ramirez: Really.
Vickie Fuller: same amount of button, you have to put in wi in your carton. Board.
Mabel Vasquez: And and less
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: And then throw
Mabel Vasquez: buttons
Hazel Ramirez: yeah,
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: than this isn't possible. This is
Bessie Becker: No,
Mabel Vasquez: the most
Bessie Becker: no
Mabel Vasquez: simple
Bessie Becker: no.
Mabel Vasquez: yeah, it is possible, but
Vickie Fuller: But
Mabel Vasquez: I've
Vickie Fuller: whe
Mabel Vasquez: never seen one before.
Vickie Fuller: I've seen
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Vickie Fuller: one
Hazel Ramirez: really.
Vickie Fuller: uh one remote control
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: with
Mabel Vasquez: without
Vickie Fuller: only the
Mabel Vasquez: the numbers.
Vickie Fuller: pu yeah, only
Mabel Vasquez: That's
Vickie Fuller: with
Mabel Vasquez: possible.
Vickie Fuller: uh page up, page down
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: and
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: volume,
Mabel Vasquez: we could
Bessie Becker: uh
Mabel Vasquez: skip
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: the numbers.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, but
Vickie Fuller: but
Hazel Ramirez: I d I wouldn't want to own that. Really.
Bessie Becker: That's still
Vickie Fuller: Uh, it's it's
Bessie Becker: four.
Vickie Fuller: still for little children. They can handle that remote
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: control, but
Mabel Vasquez: Then uh,
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: teletext
Vickie Fuller: it isn't fo
Mabel Vasquez: would also be im impossible.
Vickie Fuller: Yes, it's for it's li uh it's
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: just for
Bessie Becker: that's
Vickie Fuller: a
Bessie Becker: no
Vickie Fuller: little
Mabel Vasquez: Okay,
Bessie Becker: option,
Mabel Vasquez: we'll
Bessie Becker: that's
Mabel Vasquez: we'll
Bessie Becker: no
Mabel Vasquez: just
Bessie Becker: option.
Mabel Vasquez: okay. But then still, when we there's no room for a docking station or something. Tha w Le let's see th we have uh oh yeah, button supplements. We'll give the buttons special colour. We'll give them a special form. Uh, I think we should mark the special form thing, because it this will be some special forms incorporated in these big buttons, I guess.
Bessie Becker: A special colour, why a special colour?
Mabel Vasquez: Because the buttons will be uh d will be matching colour
Bessie Becker: But
Mabel Vasquez: between
Bessie Becker: wha what
Mabel Vasquez: the buttons
Bessie Becker: s what
Mabel Vasquez: and the
Bessie Becker: special?
Mabel Vasquez: rubber surroundings.
Vickie Fuller: Otherwise,
Mabel Vasquez: I think that's
Bessie Becker: Okay,
Vickie Fuller: it
Mabel Vasquez: the what
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: they mean by a special colour.
Vickie Fuller: Otherwise
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: Uh,
Hazel Ramirez: don't think
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Vickie Fuller: it
Hazel Ramirez: the special
Mabel Vasquez: I
Vickie Fuller: would
Mabel Vasquez: think
Vickie Fuller: be
Hazel Ramirez: form
Mabel Vasquez: all
Vickie Fuller: the
Mabel Vasquez: the
Hazel Ramirez: is
Mabel Vasquez: special
Hazel Ramirez: really true.
Mabel Vasquez: colour things have to be marked over here, because that's what we were planning to do, making it
Vickie Fuller: Special form also, it says.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, special
Hazel Ramirez: Is it?
Mabel Vasquez: material r also, because i has rubber. And the buttons have to be rubber.
Vickie Fuller: What is the normal material?
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: Plastic.
Hazel Ramirez: I dunno.
Vickie Fuller: Sh
Bessie Becker: Plastic,
Vickie Fuller: yeah.
Bessie Becker: I think.
Vickie Fuller: Classic?
Bessie Becker: Plastic.
Hazel Ramirez: Plastic.
Vickie Fuller: Oh, plastic.
Mabel Vasquez: 'Kay, but the problem now is that the There's no such thing as a docking station in this list, but we can all imagine that it would be impossible to
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: make a docking station for thirty cents.
Vickie Fuller: But we can uh sell the remote control and uh sell the docking station
Mabel Vasquez: Separately.
Bessie Becker: Se
Vickie Fuller: yes.
Bessie Becker: no no
Vickie Fuller: And
Bessie Becker: no.
Vickie Fuller: and but we don't have to tell it, but what we can say of can um almost make it impossible to buy a remote control without the docking station.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I do like the idea, but we yeah. It uh but it then the docking station isn't relevant for this project anymore, but we can
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Vickie Fuller: No, but you
Mabel Vasquez: but then
Vickie Fuller: otherwise you can't
Mabel Vasquez: you
Vickie Fuller: retrieve
Mabel Vasquez: still have to use
Vickie Fuller: it.
Mabel Vasquez: we have to find out what chip we u need.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, I really don't get it. I mean if it's a simple chip, then
Mabel Vasquez: I think
Hazel Ramirez: we
Mabel Vasquez: we
Hazel Ramirez: suddenly
Mabel Vasquez: can agree
Hazel Ramirez: got
Mabel Vasquez: on this.
Hazel Ramirez: two
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: Euros and
Mabel Vasquez: I
Hazel Ramirez: thirty
Mabel Vasquez: think
Hazel Ramirez: cents.
Mabel Vasquez: the special colour thing has to be uh marked. 'Cause I think we
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Hazel Ramirez: yep.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I think that's what what what they uh
Vickie Fuller: But for
Mabel Vasquez: mean
Vickie Fuller: two Euros
Hazel Ramirez: I think so,
Vickie Fuller: and
Hazel Ramirez: too.
Vickie Fuller: thirty cents, we uh we don't get a docking station.
Hazel Ramirez: Oh, I don't know.
Mabel Vasquez: But can we find out uh about uh this chips? Because when we don't need a d a docking station, then probably we also have only we also need a simple chip.
Bessie Becker: And then we can get a docking
Mabel Vasquez: And maybe
Bessie Becker: station.
Mabel Vasquez: then we can do something extra.
Vickie Fuller: For
Mabel Vasquez: Oh, n uh oh, still oh, it's gonna get more expensive with. Two. Then we have some money left. We can put then
Vickie Fuller: For two Euros.
Mabel Vasquez: We can put a scroll-wheel on it or something. Yeah, well who knows.
Hazel Ramirez: Uh why? I
Mabel Vasquez: Or
Hazel Ramirez: mean
Mabel Vasquez: a little
Hazel Ramirez: i
Mabel Vasquez: bit
Hazel Ramirez: i if
Mabel Vasquez: of tin
Hazel Ramirez: you
Mabel Vasquez: titanium.
Hazel Ramirez: if it would cost two Euros, that had a total a total thing, it would be nice too, I mean uh we're not gonna add uh
Bessie Becker: But what
Hazel Ramirez: a trip
Bessie Becker: what
Hazel Ramirez: to
Bessie Becker: can
Hazel Ramirez: Hawaii
Bessie Becker: we do
Hazel Ramirez: to
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: it.
Mabel Vasquez: or we can ki do the kinetic cells. That's also maybe an idea.
Bessie Becker: But uh what can we do with the simple chip and what's difference
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah that's
Bessie Becker: with
Mabel Vasquez: what
Bessie Becker: a
Mabel Vasquez: then
Bessie Becker: regular
Mabel Vasquez: what he has
Bessie Becker: chip
Mabel Vasquez: to find
Bessie Becker: and a advanced
Mabel Vasquez: out. Maybe you can
Bessie Becker: chip?
Mabel Vasquez: uh find it in your email right now, then we know
Bessie Becker: If if
Mabel Vasquez: then we
Bessie Becker: i
Mabel Vasquez: exactly know what it will cost us. Maybe is that that's nice to know.
Bessie Becker: Regular chip and because we don't have uh special functions to use uh
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, bu bu but
Bessie Becker: in advanced
Mabel Vasquez: when we
Bessie Becker: chip, for example.
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: like the hand dynamo part.
Mabel Vasquez: but when we skip when we um when we don't use the do we're not gonna make the docking station, then we still yeah, we need something else maybe to make it kind of special, because that was our our special feature.
Hazel Ramirez: We can make a plain
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: docking station for two Euros.
Bessie Becker: We'll
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: go
Hazel Ramirez: mean
Bessie Becker: back uh
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, okay,
Bessie Becker: tomorrow.
Mabel Vasquez: you can also do that, but maybe
Hazel Ramirez: Wi wi without recharge
Mabel Vasquez: It still is a special remote control cons uh you know, wi its form is special
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, but but
Mabel Vasquez: and
Hazel Ramirez: we can make a docking
Mabel Vasquez: material.
Hazel Ramirez: station for two Euros uh if you don't put the recharge function in it. I mean, it has a shape.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but
Hazel Ramirez: Of
Mabel Vasquez: for
Hazel Ramirez: course
Mabel Vasquez: two
Hazel Ramirez: it has
Mabel Vasquez: Euros,
Hazel Ramirez: a shape, but
Mabel Vasquez: then
Hazel Ramirez: i
Mabel Vasquez: we have
Hazel Ramirez: i
Mabel Vasquez: still maybe we have to use the advanced chip, then two Euros isn't even possible.
Hazel Ramirez: Why should that not be possible?
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, then because then we'd thirty cents left.
Hazel Ramirez: No, for for the uh for the docking station if you do if you choose the simple chip.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, because maybe d uh yeah, we have to find
Bessie Becker: That's
Mabel Vasquez: out with
Bessie Becker: the
Mabel Vasquez: the
Bessie Becker: question.
Mabel Vasquez: simple chip.
Bessie Becker: If we do i do we need an advanced chip, or
Hazel Ramirez: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: is
Mabel Vasquez: and
Bessie Becker: it
Mabel Vasquez: w
Bessie Becker: okay
Mabel Vasquez: and and
Bessie Becker: f
Mabel Vasquez: we
Vickie Fuller: It
Mabel Vasquez: uh need
Vickie Fuller: isn't
Mabel Vasquez: f
Vickie Fuller: in my
Mabel Vasquez: and
Vickie Fuller: information,
Mabel Vasquez: what is this? Sample
Vickie Fuller: so
Mabel Vasquez: sensor
Vickie Fuller: I don't know
Mabel Vasquez: sample
Vickie Fuller: it uh
Mabel Vasquez: speaker.
Vickie Fuller: either. It isn't in my information, I uh I I've got a schematic view of the remote control, but nothing about uh advanced chips or
Mabel Vasquez: You can look at it for s presentation. S technical functions?
Bessie Becker: No.
Vickie Fuller: Uh I've got here
Bessie Becker: No
Vickie Fuller: in
Bessie Becker: no,
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: they were uh mine,
Vickie Fuller: I will
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Vickie Fuller: put
Mabel Vasquez: Oh.
Vickie Fuller: a I will put a page on it. When my mouse works again.
Mabel Vasquez: Oh, oh oh. Hey. Oh.
Vickie Fuller: My mouse is uh
Hazel Ramirez: Dead.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: Reanimate it.
Vickie Fuller: Oh.
Bessie Becker: Died.
Vickie Fuller: Ah, I've got it. I will put uh my email on the the network.
Hazel Ramirez: What the hell are these?
Vickie Fuller: It's on it.
Hazel Ramirez: Oh, whatever.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, it's open.
Mabel Vasquez: Mm. I don't think here
Bessie Becker: It's circuit
Mabel Vasquez: it's in
Bessie Becker: board.
Mabel Vasquez: here already.
Bessie Becker: It's only just
Mabel Vasquez: It's nothing about
Bessie Becker: basics
Mabel Vasquez: s yeah.
Bessie Becker: for for
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Bessie Becker: At the end circuit
Hazel Ramirez: This isn't helpful.
Bessie Becker: there is an infrared
Mabel Vasquez: No.
Bessie Becker: LED.
Mabel Vasquez: But i in the presentation of yours, there was also something about different components. Which one was it?
Bessie Becker: Components design.
Mabel Vasquez: Functional requirements?
Vickie Fuller: Um
Hazel Ramirez: No, that was my presentation.
Bessie Becker: Components design maybe.
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Bessie Becker: N on
Vickie Fuller: that
Bessie Becker: top.
Vickie Fuller: was mine.
Mabel Vasquez: Ah. Ah yes, it was the second one.
Vickie Fuller: But that was my second
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: It's
Mabel Vasquez: it was
Hazel Ramirez: already
Mabel Vasquez: your second
Hazel Ramirez: open.
Mabel Vasquez: your first presentation.
Hazel Ramirez: It's at the bottom.
Bessie Becker: Working
Mabel Vasquez: Sorry?
Bessie Becker: design.
Hazel Ramirez: It's uh at your task bar.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, but it's the the other one.
Hazel Ramirez: Oh.
Vickie Fuller: Mm
Mabel Vasquez: Uh,
Bessie Becker: Was it
Mabel Vasquez: this
Bessie Becker: working
Mabel Vasquez: is n this
Hazel Ramirez: Sorry.
Bessie Becker: design
Mabel Vasquez: is not this
Bessie Becker: or components design?
Mabel Vasquez: n that's not the right one. I don't oh.
Hazel Ramirez: Okay, sorry.
Mabel Vasquez: No, this is the other one. Or maybe something is uh maybe there's something abo in in these
Bessie Becker: Chip set.
Vickie Fuller: But this is the same uh This is o only the possibilities.
Mabel Vasquez: Here.
Vickie Fuller: Yeah. We can use a simple, a regular, or advanced chip.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah, nice.
Bessie Becker: The
Hazel Ramirez: I it
Bessie Becker: display
Hazel Ramirez: doesn't say
Bessie Becker: requires
Hazel Ramirez: anything.
Mabel Vasquez: You know
Bessie Becker: an
Mabel Vasquez: that
Bessie Becker: advanced
Mabel Vasquez: a push-button
Bessie Becker: chip.
Mabel Vasquez: requires a simple chip, but a scroll-wheel, it it Hazel Ramirez requires
Vickie Fuller: Ah, okay.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, so we only
Bessie Becker: Requires.
Mabel Vasquez: need a simple chip.
Vickie Fuller: With the light.
Bessie Becker: Little lights. Yeah, but that that's just the same as the
Mabel Vasquez: No no, that's
Bessie Becker: the LED.
Mabel Vasquez: just a simple chip.
Hazel Ramirez: That's not needed.
Mabel Vasquez: A scroll-wheel it s uh only states that a scroll-wheel requires a regular chip, and that a display requires an advanced chip. So, we don't
Hazel Ramirez: A display
Mabel Vasquez: need any of them.
Hazel Ramirez: uh is, of course, uh for showing
Vickie Fuller: L_C_D_.
Hazel Ramirez: letters. For showing text.
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: I don't think that uh
Bessie Becker: No.
Hazel Ramirez: just a l a little light
Bessie Becker: I think uh the uh normal uh simple chip will
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Bessie Becker: be okay.
Hazel Ramirez: I agree.
Mabel Vasquez: And what's the sample sensor slash sample speaker?
Vickie Fuller: Maybe you can say against the remote uh page uh
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: f uh page up, page
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: down.
Hazel Ramirez: I guess so too.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, true.
Hazel Ramirez: Next
Bessie Becker: Well, that's not
Hazel Ramirez: channel.
Bessie Becker: too what we want.
Hazel Ramirez: No. Well, we might want it, but
Mabel Vasquez: Okay.
Vickie Fuller: All in twelve
Mabel Vasquez: Back
Vickie Fuller: Euros.
Mabel Vasquez: to the costs.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: Twelve Euros and fifty cents.
Mabel Vasquez: So we're
Bessie Becker: So,
Mabel Vasquez: gonna
Bessie Becker: simple
Mabel Vasquez: use the simple
Bessie Becker: chip is okay.
Mabel Vasquez: chip.
Hazel Ramirez: Great. Delete. Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: And the lights. Where uh are the lights?
Bessie Becker: lights, yeah, there's no
Hazel Ramirez: Well, there're three, I guess.
Bessie Becker: category.
Mabel Vasquez: Nah, there is some money left to be spent.
Bessie Becker: Can we do it wi within
Hazel Ramirez: I think
Bessie Becker: two
Hazel Ramirez: we can make a docking
Bessie Becker: two Euro?
Hazel Ramirez: station.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, but what we have to think
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: about now is that is is it still a special remote control? But I mean it isn't it hasn't got any innovative technology, we aren't gonna apply any uh innovated innovative te technology anyway, I think.
Bessie Becker: Mm-hmm.
Mabel Vasquez: I don't I don't see any possibility to do so, because it would wouldn't fit our
Bessie Becker: But it's
Mabel Vasquez: defi
Bessie Becker: original.
Mabel Vasquez: design philosophy. But
Hazel Ramirez: No,
Mabel Vasquez: what
Hazel Ramirez: that's
Mabel Vasquez: w is there
Hazel Ramirez: true.
Mabel Vasquez: some extra maybe I think maybe the kinetic thing is something. Instead of the rechargeable the rechargeable thing was something to um know, so y so people wouldn't
Hazel Ramirez: M
Mabel Vasquez: have
Hazel Ramirez: bu
Mabel Vasquez: to worry about their batteries anymore. Maybe we if we put the kinetic
Vickie Fuller: But
Mabel Vasquez: thing
Vickie Fuller: but
Mabel Vasquez: in
Vickie Fuller: sometimes
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: you put
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: a
Mabel Vasquez: you leave the p yeah, I know, but still I they will think about that. I mean if
Vickie Fuller: Kinetics
Mabel Vasquez: you u
Vickie Fuller: aren't uh nowadays only used in watches and
Mabel Vasquez: The
Vickie Fuller: that's
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Vickie Fuller: because
Mabel Vasquez: it's made
Vickie Fuller: you're always
Mabel Vasquez: for
Vickie Fuller: walking.
Mabel Vasquez: s people well, the they don't if it was uh uh r useless technology, they wouldn't put it uh as a possibility.
Vickie Fuller: Uh solar cells
Mabel Vasquez: And i
Vickie Fuller: are
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: useless.
Mabel Vasquez: it
Hazel Ramirez: Or the hand
Mabel Vasquez: th th
Hazel Ramirez: dynamo
Mabel Vasquez: the the target
Hazel Ramirez: dynamo
Mabel Vasquez: the target uh group are people who zap regularly and throw with their remote control as a matter of speaking.
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: Because I think it when when there w was a remote control where it was useful to have a kinetic uh uh power source, then it would be this one. Because it's one it gets thrown around thrown around a lot and it gets used a lot Hey that maybe that's
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: cool
Hazel Ramirez: but but
Mabel Vasquez: that's a cool thing
Hazel Ramirez: if
Mabel Vasquez: about
Hazel Ramirez: we ca
Mabel Vasquez: it, you know. You don't use batteries. I've never seen it before in a remote control.
Hazel Ramirez: I don't
Bessie Becker: But
Hazel Ramirez: know
Bessie Becker: then
Hazel Ramirez: if
Bessie Becker: we could make a docking station.
Hazel Ramirez: Five minutes.
Mabel Vasquez: No, we we we can't make a docking station anyway.
Hazel Ramirez: That's not true.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, we can als or uh also m we we can make
Hazel Ramirez: We can
Mabel Vasquez: one
Hazel Ramirez: make
Bessie Becker: Wow,
Hazel Ramirez: a docking
Bessie Becker: w
Hazel Ramirez: station
Bessie Becker: why
Mabel Vasquez: we
Hazel Ramirez: for
Mabel Vasquez: can
Bessie Becker: no
Hazel Ramirez: two
Mabel Vasquez: still
Bessie Becker: li
Hazel Ramirez: thirty.
Mabel Vasquez: make
Bessie Becker: Look at now, we got two
Hazel Ramirez: Two
Vickie Fuller: Fo
Hazel Ramirez: thirty.
Bessie Becker: two thirty left.
Hazel Ramirez: We
Vickie Fuller: for
Hazel Ramirez: can
Bessie Becker: Ca
Hazel Ramirez: make
Bessie Becker: can't
Vickie Fuller: a docking
Hazel Ramirez: a docking
Bessie Becker: we
Vickie Fuller: station.
Bessie Becker: make
Hazel Ramirez: station.
Bessie Becker: a docking station
Hazel Ramirez: Sure.
Bessie Becker: of that?
Vickie Fuller: With a cable, with uh buttons on it,
Hazel Ramirez: Sure.
Vickie Fuller: with retrieval uh device
Bessie Becker: I don't
Vickie Fuller: in
Bessie Becker: know.
Vickie Fuller: it.
Hazel Ramirez: The power device is is i i is very cheap. That's just a regular uh power cable and
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: whatever.
Mabel Vasquez: but be serious, then uh the
Vickie Fuller: Wi
Mabel Vasquez: docking station will be
Bessie Becker: Well, we
Mabel Vasquez: a
Vickie Fuller: with
Mabel Vasquez: fifth
Bessie Becker: we
Vickie Fuller: a
Bessie Becker: uh
Vickie Fuller: button
Mabel Vasquez: of the price
Vickie Fuller: to
Mabel Vasquez: of the remote control.
Hazel Ramirez: So.
Vickie Fuller: wi with a button to retrieve it, so it will beep. Uh,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Vickie Fuller: so it's uh wireless
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but we uh
Vickie Fuller: technology.
Mabel Vasquez: we don't inc we haven't looked at the these costs of the speaker and other stuff. I don't think it's realistic for you to do so.
Hazel Ramirez: Well then it's a useless project.
Vickie Fuller: Look at the case,
Mabel Vasquez: Oh, because
Vickie Fuller: the case
Mabel Vasquez: we
Vickie Fuller: the case of of uh of
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: uh
Bessie Becker: then we don't have
Mabel Vasquez: We well
Bessie Becker: any
Mabel Vasquez: look
Bessie Becker: innovation
Mabel Vasquez: at all the special
Bessie Becker: things.
Mabel Vasquez: stuff we have. Colour a the colours are special, the form is special. It th this is whole concept. Uh
Hazel Ramirez: Can't
Mabel Vasquez: maybe
Hazel Ramirez: we
Mabel Vasquez: it
Hazel Ramirez: uh
Mabel Vasquez: with the kinetic thing, I think we could do uh do a compromise uh with the kim
Hazel Ramirez: Can't
Mabel Vasquez: kinetic
Hazel Ramirez: we say fifteen
Mabel Vasquez: thing.
Hazel Ramirez: Euros? No, sta yeah
Mabel Vasquez: Uh, no.
Hazel Ramirez: I mean
Vickie Fuller: No, then we have to sell it for thirty Euros.
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Bessie Becker: No, we
Vickie Fuller: It's
Bessie Becker: only
Vickie Fuller: the
Bessie Becker: make less profit of it.
Hazel Ramirez: You can sell for twenty seven and a half. Then you make as much profit as
Bessie Becker: No.
Hazel Ramirez: you would with twelve and a half production costs.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, I don my suggestion is to just forget about the whole docking station thing and make it uh like a Uh uh I I I I still fee I also feel this concept of making it kinetic, because of the you know, it g
Hazel Ramirez: I
Mabel Vasquez: it
Hazel Ramirez: don't
Mabel Vasquez: gives
Hazel Ramirez: think
Mabel Vasquez: something
Vickie Fuller: Maybe we
Mabel Vasquez: dynamic
Vickie Fuller: can uh can
Mabel Vasquez: to the
Vickie Fuller: do
Mabel Vasquez: remote
Vickie Fuller: it both.
Mabel Vasquez: control.
Vickie Fuller: Maybe we can do it both uh in the in the in the remote. Battery and kinetic.
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Mabel Vasquez: No, that wouldn't n no.
Hazel Ramirez: Thirteen twenty.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, and it is also not a good it's not you
Hazel Ramirez: And
Mabel Vasquez: have
Hazel Ramirez: I think
Mabel Vasquez: to really
Hazel Ramirez: only
Mabel Vasquez: do it only kinetic, you don't want it to think about batteries anymore.
Vickie Fuller: Yes, but
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Vickie Fuller: when
Hazel Ramirez: but only
Vickie Fuller: it's then
Hazel Ramirez: kinetic,
Vickie Fuller: when it
Hazel Ramirez: then you
Mabel Vasquez: No
Vickie Fuller: then you
Hazel Ramirez: gotta
Mabel Vasquez: no.
Vickie Fuller: have to shake it uh and all when it's when it's empty.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah,
Hazel Ramirez: You you gotta
Mabel Vasquez: it's
Hazel Ramirez: throw
Mabel Vasquez: great.
Hazel Ramirez: uh throw it through the room like twenty times an hour,
Mabel Vasquez: No
Hazel Ramirez: really.
Mabel Vasquez: no no. No no, this is very sophisticated technology technology. When you
Vickie Fuller: You
Mabel Vasquez: use
Vickie Fuller: asked
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: for
Mabel Vasquez: your
Vickie Fuller: three
Mabel Vasquez: remote
Vickie Fuller: d
Mabel Vasquez: like once a day, or maybe even less i i
Vickie Fuller: No,
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: that's n that's not true. Uh,
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Vickie Fuller: a watch is uh kinetic
Mabel Vasquez: It
Vickie Fuller: because you walk
Mabel Vasquez: We
Vickie Fuller: all
Mabel Vasquez: can
Vickie Fuller: the time.
Mabel Vasquez: make it yeah no. Becau be but a remote control gets why do they state that this technology
Vickie Fuller: Yes,
Mabel Vasquez: can be
Vickie Fuller: solar
Mabel Vasquez: used if
Vickie Fuller: cells
Mabel Vasquez: it
Vickie Fuller: are also stated.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, m but a w uh uh n uh a calculator also works on r on
Vickie Fuller: Why
Mabel Vasquez: solar
Vickie Fuller: don't
Mabel Vasquez: cells.
Vickie Fuller: we use solar cells then?
Mabel Vasquez: Because I think the d whole dynamic part, do you know, appeals to Hazel Ramirez qui uh thinking of our design philosophy, you know, with the rubber parts and uh sturdiness of the thing, and y when you move it around a lot, then people find the idea funny that when I move my
Vickie Fuller: That's
Mabel Vasquez: remote
Vickie Fuller: true.
Mabel Vasquez: control around
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: and
Hazel Ramirez: it's funny for a week. I guess something like that, where you have to move it around very frequently, is demotivating.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, but you don't have to. Trust Hazel Ramirez. The idea of this technology is that you don't think about it, it just happens.
Hazel Ramirez: No, I I don't move my uh my
Mabel Vasquez: Okay,
Vickie Fuller: Oui.
Hazel Ramirez: remote
Mabel Vasquez: then we
Hazel Ramirez: control
Mabel Vasquez: d Okay,
Hazel Ramirez: very
Mabel Vasquez: well
Hazel Ramirez: much,
Mabel Vasquez: y we don't
Hazel Ramirez: seriously.
Mabel Vasquez: have to do it, but what that would just have a lack of key features, you know. You m have to put something on your box. You have to make people buy it and uh We can really can do the docking thing, uh it's not yeah, uh we can do it, but it's would be a
Vickie Fuller: You
Mabel Vasquez: easy
Vickie Fuller: can
Mabel Vasquez: way
Vickie Fuller: do
Mabel Vasquez: out.
Vickie Fuller: it for fifty cents.
Hazel Ramirez: Well, we've got more than fifty Cents.
Vickie Fuller: The c
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, but
Vickie Fuller: The
Mabel Vasquez: we
Vickie Fuller: case
Mabel Vasquez: have to grou
Vickie Fuller: the
Mabel Vasquez: to
Vickie Fuller: case
Mabel Vasquez: agree upon
Vickie Fuller: alone
Mabel Vasquez: something,
Vickie Fuller: is is
Mabel Vasquez: because
Vickie Fuller: is
Mabel Vasquez: uh
Vickie Fuller: uh
Mabel Vasquez: we only have a minute left or so.
Vickie Fuller: the case alone for uh remote control is at least one Euro. Then we have one Euro thirty for the whole
Mabel Vasquez: No
Vickie Fuller: docking
Mabel Vasquez: no,
Vickie Fuller: station.
Mabel Vasquez: it's not possible. Okay, w b we can s we can leave it on be well then then th it's this is then then our concept is ready.
Bessie Becker: Cheap remote control.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, we make some extra profit of
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: it.
Hazel Ramirez: No, we won't, but that's
Vickie Fuller: But now
Hazel Ramirez: um something else. No, this
Bessie Becker: It
Hazel Ramirez: not
Bessie Becker: w it
Hazel Ramirez: gonna
Bessie Becker: won't
Hazel Ramirez: sell.
Bessie Becker: tell, but
Mabel Vasquez: Huh,
Hazel Ramirez: No.
Mabel Vasquez: any ideas?
Hazel Ramirez: Of course not.
Bessie Becker: No, uh, n no
Vickie Fuller: Great. It's great.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, we
Vickie Fuller: Our
Bessie Becker: just
Vickie Fuller: remote
Bessie Becker: have
Vickie Fuller: control.
Bessie Becker: to go all what we did today again. You have to do it over.
Hazel Ramirez: We come back tomorrow, okay?
Bessie Becker: Yeah.
Mabel Vasquez: No
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Mabel Vasquez: no uh there's
Bessie Becker: the
Mabel Vasquez: still there's still
Vickie Fuller: Seventy
Mabel Vasquez: someth concept
Vickie Fuller: Euros.
Mabel Vasquez: and something special left. I mean we're gonna it's gonna excel in
Bessie Becker: No,
Mabel Vasquez: in
Bessie Becker: but
Mabel Vasquez: on in
Bessie Becker: no.
Mabel Vasquez: the the range in the field of design and and uh looks and feel. That's what it's makes it special. Yeah, and I would li I would have liked a kinetic part as well, to give it some just to give it some extra special feature, and uh I know it will work, but uh it's it's an They're they're not putting technologies on this, but if it if it was impossible to to make it happen.
Vickie Fuller: Why not a hand dynamo then?
Mabel Vasquez: Okay, well we leave it like this. Then it's c
Bessie Becker: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: then we're yeah.
Bessie Becker: yeah.
Hazel Ramirez: We can't do anything else. Warning, finish meeting now.
Vickie Fuller: We're done.
Mabel Vasquez: Okay,
Vickie Fuller: Is this it?
Mabel Vasquez: project e uh well,
Hazel Ramirez: Yeah,
Mabel Vasquez: we were gonna
Hazel Ramirez: sure.
Mabel Vasquez: what look take
Vickie Fuller: Okay.
Mabel Vasquez: a look at the last sheet.
Hazel Ramirez: No, we can't.
Mabel Vasquez: Yeah, we have to Yeah, it's
Bessie Becker: No.
Hazel Ramirez: Yes, yes.
Vickie Fuller: Yes.
Hazel Ramirez: Celebration. I don't see why, but
Vickie Fuller: Where's the champagne?
Hazel Ramirez: I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire, to be honest.
Bessie Becker: Yeah?
Vickie Fuller: I don't uh hear a bell.
Hazel Ramirez: No, not yet. Alright,
Bessie Becker: We
Hazel Ramirez: I'll
Bessie Becker: can
Hazel Ramirez: see
Bessie Becker: do
Hazel Ramirez: you
Bessie Becker: it
Hazel Ramirez: guys
Bessie Becker: here
Hazel Ramirez: in
Bessie Becker: then.
Hazel Ramirez: a minute.
Vickie Fuller: Bye.
Hazel Ramirez: I
Bessie Becker: Can
Hazel Ramirez: don't
Bessie Becker: we
Hazel Ramirez: think
Bessie Becker: can't
Hazel Ramirez: so.
Bessie Becker: we do it here?
Hazel Ramirez: I don't know. I don't I don't think so.
Vickie Fuller: Uh-huh. Just fill that one in.
Bessie Becker: Yeah, we're doing now. But it's. Oh, okay.
Mabel Vasquez: Uh, I
Bessie Becker: Nice.
Mabel Vasquez: don't know. | Mabel Vasquez opened the meeting. Bessie Becker and industrial designer presented the prototype design. The remote has buttons for power, mute, teletext, volume and channel up/down, and nine numbered channel buttons. The group discussed what buttons would be needed to enter channels 10 and above. They discussed adapting the docking station so it could be used with other products but did not make a decision. The remote is plastic with different coloured rubber strips on the sides and rubber buttons. Hazel Ramirez led the product evaluation. The group were generally satisfied with the design but did not think the remote was technologically innovative. The overall score was 2.6. The group worked out the manufacturing costs. The group had problems figuring out the cost of the docking station and buttons, and did not know which kind of chip to use. They discussed using kinetic energy to make the remote more technologically innovative but decided against it. They eventually decided that they could not afford a docking station. They did not have time to evaluate the project process before the end of the meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Linda Ellis: Okay. Well, let's start. What are doing? Oops.
Ann Kuehn: Hmm.
Sallie Rivera: Ah, pinball.
Linda Ellis: Okay. Okay. Not doing.
Carol Kimbrough: Mm.
Linda Ellis: Uh
Carol Kimbrough: Ah.
Ann Kuehn: Oh.
Carol Kimbrough: Hey. Ah. Now I have my screen back too.
Linda Ellis: Very good. Okay.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: we have presentations. So first, it's your turn.
Ann Kuehn: Mine. Oh
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Ann Kuehn: great
Sallie Rivera: Huh.
Linda Ellis: Isn't it amazing.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah. Very interesting.
Ann Kuehn: Uh
Linda Ellis: Industrial Designer. Interface concept.
Ann Kuehn: Yes, well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept. Uh, first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose, uh show you some samples, uh uh discuss some colours and design maybe, already. And uh my personal preferences. Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off. The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off. and uh off uh uh zero to nine, and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine. Uh the volume and channel quadrants, uh left and right, up and down arrows, to uh do the volume and channel. And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display. Um, I found some uh interesting uh uh samples. Examples. Um, well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh
Carol Kimbrough: Large.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Carol Kimbrough: A
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Carol Kimbrough: lot
Ann Kuehn: Large
Carol Kimbrough: a lot of buttons
Ann Kuehn: and and and
Carol Kimbrough: buttons.
Ann Kuehn: pretty thin and uh and long. Um, power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right. Um, well we see the the the same uh arrows. Like there. And uh Yeah, well arrow b buttons can be blue. And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons. Some buttons have icons like the play and stop, but we don't use that. But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons, or or letters. Uh this is the V_ for volume, but they're both uh a V_. So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Ann Kuehn: Um Yeah. So, that's
Linda Ellis: Can you go back one page? For the uh menu, what do we use for that?
Ann Kuehn: Uh,
Linda Ellis: We don't
Ann Kuehn: well
Linda Ellis: have buttons for the menu. Or we may use channel of volume and
Ann Kuehn: Yeah. I thought that was our uh idea.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Ann Kuehn: So,
Linda Ellis: But
Ann Kuehn: uh
Linda Ellis: uh
Ann Kuehn: how
Linda Ellis: You have to put it on the
Ann Kuehn: Like this.
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Ann Kuehn: Or or this. And that the menu button is okay.
Linda Ellis: Yeah but, has to be clear that you can use the arrows.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah, okay.
Carol Kimbrough: Yes.
Ann Kuehn: Uh, so the The icons on the arrows, as well, you
Linda Ellis: Mm-hmm.
Ann Kuehn: mean.
Linda Ellis: Yes. The second one.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah. Uh, well that's something to uh think about.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: Uh, maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation. And
Ann Kuehn: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: you
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: will see it.
Ann Kuehn: Um, well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already, or in the next uh meeting. But uh, as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo, I would uh recommend a yellow case. Uh, round edges. The logo at the bottom. And uh, well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognisable. K so, I think.
Linda Ellis: Not too much colours.
Ann Kuehn: Uh, no. Not too much. But uh
Linda Ellis: No, it's not flower power.
Ann Kuehn: No, no, no. But this has to be has to be trendy and uh
Linda Ellis: S okay.
Ann Kuehn: and Uh, yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons, and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Ann Kuehn: That was that.
Linda Ellis: Thank you. So, you're next.
Sallie Rivera: I'm next, okay.
Sallie Rivera: Yes. No. Here we go. Uh, at
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: first we will uh I will f
Carol Kimbrough: Mm-hmm.
Sallie Rivera: uh say something about what younger people want, our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to. And I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs, about uh what battery is in it, what kind of buttons also. First uh, the younger people, they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours. Like, totally yellow, totally red. Uh, so it's visible. Uh, the shapes are curved and round, like uh you also said. Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones, straight and uh flat and long. But to give him the shape of your hand, so you it's easier to use or something like that. But that's just an idea. And then, I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control. The battery, there are few options. Uh, I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery. So, everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket. Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch. When you uh shake it a few times, it it's loaded. Uh, the the form of the remote control, I think it's also nice have it curved. And maybe like it's hand-shaped. Uh, so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons. Uh material, you use plastic. Hard plastic uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time. And also rubber because the younger people like that, what we see in the research. Uh the push-buttons. We have one new thing uh discovered. It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse. Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels. When you want to go m move up, you just scroll up and click on the button, if you wanna see the next, uh if you wanna see that channel. And also for the mouse, uh for the volume, it's also uh easy to use. Just scroll a bit up, scroll a bit down. And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this, and you get it here. You can do it with your thumb. And with your
Carol Kimbrough: Hmm.
Sallie Rivera: l left hand you can uh push the buttons uh if you push uh channel one, you can see channel one. The electrics um with a scroll push uh button, we must use regular uh chips. There are also uh simple chips. They are uh cheaper. Um, but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control, and I think there are a lot of those uh things, and people won't buy it any more. They have seen enough of it. And you have also advanced um chips. But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen. And the costs will increase a lot more. And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_, and the chip who is more expensive. And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control, that we then use the primary colours. Like, you get a yellow uh remote control, red one, blue one, et cetera. You have any more questions about this? I think the main
Carol Kimbrough: Yep.
Sallie Rivera: thing is we look at the costs.
Linda Ellis: Hmm.
Sallie Rivera: And not too basic, not a
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: basic remote control, who
Carol Kimbrough: But,
Sallie Rivera: everybody
Carol Kimbrough: thi
Sallie Rivera: already
Carol Kimbrough: i uh
Sallie Rivera: has.
Carol Kimbrough: This is with an L_C_D_? No,
Sallie Rivera: Not
Carol Kimbrough: not.
Sallie Rivera: with an L_C_D_.
Linda Ellis: No, isn't.
Sallie Rivera: No.
Linda Ellis: But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons. Then you can scroll, you see what number,
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: and then you push.
Sallie Rivera: But then, what I say, the costs will uh get a lot higher.
Linda Ellis: But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel.
Sallie Rivera: Th then
Linda Ellis: If
Sallie Rivera: you'll
Linda Ellis: you
Sallie Rivera: see
Linda Ellis: don't
Sallie Rivera: it on the television.
Linda Ellis: Hmm, yes. But then. Yeah, then you go one down one up. When
Sallie Rivera: Yeah
Linda Ellis: you scroll.
Sallie Rivera: but l when you see a menu uh on the television, it's like you see uh one to twenty, you go uh uh s scroll
Linda Ellis: Yeah but
Sallie Rivera: up,
Linda Ellis: like
Sallie Rivera: and
Linda Ellis: we said
Sallie Rivera: push
Linda Ellis: before,
Sallie Rivera: number tw
Linda Ellis: it
Sallie Rivera: twenty.
Linda Ellis: has to be used on every television. So you may not be uh No. The television must do that.
Sallie Rivera: Mm-hmm.
Linda Ellis: So
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, I think the younger people will have newer televisions, which can provide our uh
Linda Ellis: Yeah
Sallie Rivera: remote
Linda Ellis: but
Sallie Rivera: control.
Linda Ellis: young people have to have all their uh room. And mostly they are smaller.
Sallie Rivera: Yes.
Linda Ellis: So
Sallie Rivera: But that won't be a problem. I think.
Linda Ellis: Most the times that are not advanced televisions.
Sallie Rivera: No, but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls. And I think, what I said, everybody has them uh has them already. And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros. Uh, and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing. And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Carol Kimbrough: Uh, can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without?
Sallie Rivera: I got it on my screen and it was uh higher. But I don't know uh how much higher.
Carol Kimbrough: 'Cause it I think
Linda Ellis: That's
Carol Kimbrough: if
Linda Ellis: important.
Carol Kimbrough: we have an L_C_D_, it will also sell a lot better.
Sallie Rivera: That's true.
Carol Kimbrough: And that might uh bring back the costs uh
Sallie Rivera: But then we'll I think we must discuss who uh what will be better. If we have a better shape of the um remote control, or better options on it. With a scroll menu, a w scroll thing, and a L_C_D_. And then a flat um remote control. remote control, with scroll, without L_C_D_.
Linda Ellis: Yeah. Maybe you can look how how much it is
Sallie Rivera: I can
Linda Ellis: for
Sallie Rivera: uh
Linda Ellis: the
Sallie Rivera: look on my
Linda Ellis: L_C_D_. It's
Sallie Rivera: uh
Linda Ellis: very important.
Sallie Rivera: Uh Note that the push-button requires a simple chip chip. A scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip, which is a higher price range. The display requires a advanced chip, which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip.
Linda Ellis: Yeah, more expensive. But how much?
Sallie Rivera: Doesn't say.
Linda Ellis: Oh.
Carol Kimbrough: Huh.
Ann Kuehn: Hmm.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: That's from my manufacturing division.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Carol Kimbrough: 'Kay.
Linda Ellis: Well, thank
Carol Kimbrough: My
Linda Ellis: you.
Carol Kimbrough: turn?
Sallie Rivera: Yes?
Linda Ellis: Next.
Carol Kimbrough: Mm. So So Yeah. So, my uh presentation is about trend-watching. Uh, I did some trend-watching. It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends. 'Cause if you don't, you won't sell. So, well how we did do that? Uh, well we made an investigation of the market, by Trendwatchers. They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan. Of course, well known for their uh trend uh trends. And well, uh what did you find? Uh, we have two groups, young and trendy, and the old and rich. Well th and the young and trendy, they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes, shoes, and also uh products. And um, material? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling. And to get a feeling for what it is, uh here is an image of it. Then the old and rich. They like uh dark colours, and simple, recognisable shapes. And um, they also like uh familiar material, uh especially wood. Now, another picture. To get a feeling for this. Well, uh then already come to my personal preferences. We uh aim at the younger market. So, we should also be uh look at their uh trends. However, with trends it's always if there's it's now. It it it might last one year, and next year it be uh can be totally different. And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year. So, we m must not just only look at what the trend is now, as it might be totally different next year. So, that's uh one thing to keep in mind.
Sallie Rivera: Changing covers.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah. Any questions?
Sallie Rivera: Nope.
Ann Kuehn: No.
Linda Ellis: No. It's clear. So now, it's uh Ah, let's see.
Linda Ellis: Now, w we have to decide
Linda Ellis: Well, we have to decide on the concept. So, we have to look at 'S next. Components and user interface concept. So Now, we have to make some concept. Maybe one of you can paint it on the board. First, uh user interface.
Sallie Rivera: Uh, uh-uh. How w how we how we make it? Uh
Linda Ellis: Yes, a concept on uh
Sallie Rivera: Shouldn't
Linda Ellis: Just
Sallie Rivera: we first
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: discuss about like what w
Linda Ellis: Yeah, but
Sallie Rivera: we
Linda Ellis: maybe
Sallie Rivera: all
Linda Ellis: we can paint it. Uh, what do we want?
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, but if I paint with
Linda Ellis: I'll paint. Okay. Well
Carol Kimbrough: Mm.
Linda Ellis: Something like this? Or
Ann Kuehn: Mm,
Linda Ellis: Shapes
Ann Kuehn: yes.
Linda Ellis: or What do we need?
Carol Kimbrough: Can make
Ann Kuehn: What?
Carol Kimbrough: several uh concepts.
Linda Ellis: Yes, okay.
Carol Kimbrough: We have this, and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: More like something
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah I I I uh yes.
Sallie Rivera: M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it. Uh
Linda Ellis: And you have to.
Sallie Rivera: I have to.
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: I'm not a designer. It's more three D_. Like, um when you have a part here. This is the remote control. And then you have something like th this under it. So, it's easier
Ann Kuehn: Mm.
Sallie Rivera: to get it like this.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: It's like a gun.
Carol Kimbrough: A
Linda Ellis: So, it has to be
Carol Kimbrough: g
Linda Ellis: soft?
Carol Kimbrough: Mm.
Sallie Rivera: And it has to be soft, yeah.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: So, you can
Linda Ellis: And uh,
Sallie Rivera: squeeze
Linda Ellis: the
Sallie Rivera: in
Linda Ellis: buttons?
Sallie Rivera: it and Sorry?
Linda Ellis: Buttons.
Sallie Rivera: Buttons on top of it. And here. The scrolling. You can do it with your thumb.
Ann Kuehn: But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then?
Sallie Rivera: But
Linda Ellis: No,
Sallie Rivera: now
Linda Ellis: it
Sallie Rivera: we
Linda Ellis: won't.
Sallie Rivera: use one scroll button and the other one is here. One till uh uh zero till nine.
Linda Ellis: But,
Ann Kuehn: Yeah, okay. But
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: well
Sallie Rivera: And
Ann Kuehn: but
Linda Ellis: there
Sallie Rivera: the
Linda Ellis: one
Sallie Rivera: b
Ann Kuehn: how
Linda Ellis: for the sound and one for the channels.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah?
Ann Kuehn: How
Sallie Rivera: Or two buttons.
Ann Kuehn: Okay.
Carol Kimbrough: And
Linda Ellis: Uh,
Carol Kimbrough: i if
Linda Ellis: two
Carol Kimbrough: we go
Linda Ellis: scroll
Carol Kimbrough: to uh
Linda Ellis: uh
Sallie Rivera: If
Linda Ellis: wheels.
Sallie Rivera: uh 'Kay c If we do If we use one, then we'll have just a switch on it, and you'll just switch it, and now it's
Ann Kuehn: Mm.
Sallie Rivera: the sound to switch
Linda Ellis: That's th
Sallie Rivera: back
Linda Ellis: that's more difficult.
Carol Kimbrough: But if we have
Linda Ellis: It's
Carol Kimbrough: uh
Linda Ellis: better
Carol Kimbrough: a Carol Kimbrough
Linda Ellis: in
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah. If we have a menu, uh how do we uh choose other options?
Sallie Rivera: with the menu uh button. And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it. Just not like all
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: the other ones, with uh this thing, and uh here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow. Because uh, from h hundred uh remote controls, ninety nine have it.
Linda Ellis: But
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu.
Sallie Rivera: Uh,
Carol Kimbrough: Uh-uh.
Sallie Rivera: then we have it on the T_V_, the menu.
Linda Ellis: Yeah, but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it? You don't know. So,
Sallie Rivera: I
Linda Ellis: there's
Sallie Rivera: don't
Linda Ellis: no
Sallie Rivera: know.
Linda Ellis: menu.
Sallie Rivera: It's like some sort of uh teletext option, but we don't have teletext.
Linda Ellis: No. So you can't use it.
Sallie Rivera: And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it, then the costs will uh be much higher.
Linda Ellis: Okay, we make two concepts. One with L_C_D_. One without L_C_D_.
Sallie Rivera: 'Kay. But you all like this kind of thing. Uh
Linda Ellis: Good concept. But
Sallie Rivera: With the scroll button.
Linda Ellis: That's one.
Sallie Rivera: And and this one
Carol Kimbrough: Uh-uh.
Sallie Rivera: has to be soft. And this has to be harder, because when it falls, it mu mu must not burst. Or some kind of rubber around it.
Ann Kuehn: Mm-hmm.
Linda Ellis: It's one. Two. Number two.
Ann Kuehn: And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger. Like
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Ann Kuehn: uh
Sallie Rivera: Yeah. Ah that's nice. Here. Trigger.
Linda Ellis: No.
Ann Kuehn: Just
Linda Ellis: But
Ann Kuehn: to
Linda Ellis: when you handle it,
Ann Kuehn: uh
Linda Ellis: you put it on and off. It's not good to use.
Ann Kuehn: Oh, like
Linda Ellis: Yeah, but
Ann Kuehn: a
Linda Ellis: I'll zap. Fuck. Out.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: No, it's not good.
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: Now, second concept. One with L_C_D_, one without L_C_D_. Then uh Paint it.
Sallie Rivera: Paint it? With the scroll thing on,
Linda Ellis: One
Sallie Rivera: like this?
Linda Ellis: with two scroll buttons and one with without. Yeah. Uh, one
Sallie Rivera: So?
Linda Ellis: with a with a menu, and one without a menu. And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_.
Sallie Rivera: Draw it.
Linda Ellis: Unbelievable. Do I have to do everything. Blank. You have
Linda Ellis: Not so difficult.
Ann Kuehn: But
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Ann Kuehn: if you put push the the menu button
Linda Ellis: Uh, that's the menu.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah, wh
Linda Ellis: There
Ann Kuehn: what
Linda Ellis: for the L_C_D_ screen.
Ann Kuehn: Yes, but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose.
Linda Ellis: You have to For the menu.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: Mm-hmm. One that way. And one that way. So Then it depends on the cost. S On and off.
Sallie Rivera: But is it easy to use? When you have it on your left side, and
Linda Ellis: When it's not too big. Just like a a phone.
Ann Kuehn: Mm-hmm.
Carol Kimbrough: M uh yeah, maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um
Sallie Rivera: Separate, more separate,
Carol Kimbrough: more separate,
Sallie Rivera: h yeah.
Carol Kimbrough: yeah.
Linda Ellis: Yes,
Carol Kimbrough: Like, you have
Linda Ellis: okay.
Carol Kimbrough: the menu button in between uh
Sallie Rivera: Yeah. On the left a scroll button, and on the right a scroll button.
Sallie Rivera: But would it be easy to use then? If it's like you have a big uh
Linda Ellis: Very good. Is it better? When you uh the menu, you have to go there there there there.
Sallie Rivera: I also think
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: this concept is not what the young people were looking for. They were like round curves, uh different uh
Linda Ellis: Yeah, okay. That's that's the outside.
Sallie Rivera: Okay, okay,
Linda Ellis: But now
Sallie Rivera: okay.
Linda Ellis: the First the buttons.
Sallie Rivera: Mm-hmm.
Carol Kimbrough: Think we have we have now two buttons missing. The uh um The mute button.
Linda Ellis: Sorry?
Carol Kimbrough: We have two buttons missing. The mute button. And um, the to to uh have to uh numbers
Linda Ellis: Mute. And the other. Yeah.
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Linda Ellis: Not so difficult.
Carol Kimbrough: But, uh
Sallie Rivera: Personally, I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle.
Linda Ellis: But how do you wanna solve it?
Sallie Rivera: With the switch button.
Linda Ellis: Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy. Then
Sallie Rivera: No
Linda Ellis: you
Sallie Rivera: like
Linda Ellis: go down,
Sallie Rivera: uh
Linda Ellis: you switch, you go into the right, you switch, you go down.
Sallie Rivera: Oh, you mean like that.
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: Uh, then you can also have like uh th um
Linda Ellis: A joystick.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, and joystick, I think.
Linda Ellis: Yeah. But is it uh Does that break, a joystick? Or a small one just like in a laptop.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah like in a laptop, s uh s some sort of thing. A little bit bigger, with
Linda Ellis: Mean, it's
Sallie Rivera: easier
Linda Ellis: better.
Sallie Rivera: thi
Linda Ellis: But how expensive it is?
Sallie Rivera: I don't know.
Linda Ellis: Oh. Why do I pay you for? Um, well um Better ideas.
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: Or no scroll uh things. Just a shape. And No, no.
Linda Ellis: For the
Sallie Rivera: It won't
Linda Ellis: young
Sallie Rivera: work.
Linda Ellis: peoples I think scroll
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: button's good.
Sallie Rivera: Uh-huh.
Linda Ellis: So Think we have to keep them.
Sallie Rivera: Or a remote control more like joystick.
Linda Ellis: Yeah, but is it A small one.
Sallie Rivera: A small one like this, like a Nintendo uh k
Linda Ellis: No just like in a
Sallie Rivera: Playstation thing.
Linda Ellis: a laptop. Small, round. Then it's not so big.
Sallie Rivera: No, no, no. I mean the the shape of the
Linda Ellis: Oh the
Sallie Rivera: remote
Linda Ellis: sh
Sallie Rivera: control. Just
Linda Ellis: Yeah,
Sallie Rivera: like a
Linda Ellis: but
Sallie Rivera: Playstation
Linda Ellis: then
Sallie Rivera: thing.
Linda Ellis: you can to use t with one hand.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: So Maybe, if it's possible, it's not too expensive, I think a joystick is better. A small one. So, please look at it.
Sallie Rivera: No, that's okay, I got
Carol Kimbrough: And on the L_C_D_, how much it costs? Uh, it costs extra?
Sallie Rivera: Uh they're not uh in details. It's more expensive or
Linda Ellis: Yeah
Sallie Rivera: less
Linda Ellis: we
Sallie Rivera: expensive,
Linda Ellis: I think
Sallie Rivera: huh?
Linda Ellis: you get it. So, after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it.
Sallie Rivera: Then I have to come with it.
Linda Ellis: Yes.
Sallie Rivera: I got my personal costs. I I don't I don't know the costs.
Linda Ellis: Your problem. Not mine.
Sallie Rivera: Then I'll uh make something up.
Linda Ellis: Okay. So, do we have other concepts? Then for the components, we use a normal battery.
Ann Kuehn: Mm,
Linda Ellis: Then it's
Ann Kuehn: yeah.
Linda Ellis: Ch cheapest
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, or
Linda Ellis: way,
Sallie Rivera: the
Linda Ellis: I think.
Sallie Rivera: or the kinetic uh with normal
Linda Ellis: No,
Sallie Rivera: battery.
Linda Ellis: no kinetic.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, I think it's
Linda Ellis: Kinetic
Sallie Rivera: uh, yeah,
Linda Ellis: is uh ch makes it more expensive.
Sallie Rivera: more expensive. Yeah.
Linda Ellis: So
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: we use a normal battery.
Ann Kuehn: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: Okay.
Carol Kimbrough: Yes.
Linda Ellis: Chip. Depends on the L_C_D_.
Sallie Rivera: Depends on the scroll.
Linda Ellis: Scroll.
Sallie Rivera: If we use a scroll, then we have the uh regular chip. If we don't use a scroll, then we can use the simple chip. And
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: that's
Linda Ellis: And uh, we If you use the L_C_D_, we have to
Sallie Rivera: Uh the most expensive.
Linda Ellis: Yes,
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: okay. So, depends on the L_C_D_
Sallie Rivera: If we
Linda Ellis: and the scroll.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Sallie Rivera: If we No okay scroll-wheel. So, I have this. So, it will be uh the advanced chip, or the uh regu uh or the regular chip.
Linda Ellis: Okay. So, uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But, it has to be small. I think.
Sallie Rivera: Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it?
Linda Ellis: If you have pistol, it L_C_D_'s not easy. Y y
Sallie Rivera: Just use your thumb.
Linda Ellis: Yeah but If you use a phone.
Sallie Rivera: If you Yeah. I use my thumb.
Linda Ellis: k Yeah, but but then you have it. Like, th if you have pistol, you have it so.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: And the screen is Well,
Sallie Rivera: If
Linda Ellis: then
Sallie Rivera: you have
Linda Ellis: you
Sallie Rivera: a joystick
Linda Ellis: have
Sallie Rivera: on
Linda Ellis: to keep it this way to look at the screen.
Sallie Rivera: No, if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller.
Linda Ellis: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: And you move up, f forward, down, left. Then you have uh just, yeah, a little bit curved. It's not just uh
Linda Ellis: No.
Sallie Rivera: straight.
Linda Ellis: No, no.
Sallie Rivera: That's how we use it.
Carol Kimbrough: Uh
Sallie Rivera: That's why they make joysticks like that, I think.
Linda Ellis: Yeah, but then
Carol Kimbrough: Uh,
Linda Ellis: you look
Carol Kimbrough: yeah, but
Linda Ellis: forward. And then you can
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: y
Sallie Rivera: Yeah?
Linda Ellis: N well,
Carol Kimbrough: If you
Linda Ellis: if you have to look at it.
Sallie Rivera: 'Kay. Here's our designer.
Carol Kimbrough: If we have uh then something standing here, with the L_C_D_.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah.
Linda Ellis: Then it goes like this.
Sallie Rivera: Yeah, why not.
Linda Ellis: If th n well
Sallie Rivera: It's for the younger people.
Linda Ellis: Yes, of course.
Sallie Rivera: It's something new.
Ann Kuehn: It's
Linda Ellis: That's
Ann Kuehn: uh
Linda Ellis: good good. But the um, it may not break.
Sallie Rivera: Now we put uh rubber around it.
Linda Ellis: Okay. If that's possible.
Carol Kimbrough: Um,
Sallie Rivera: Hard
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: plastic, uh the shape, and around it hard uh around it rubber. And the uh the hand shape is also rubber.
Linda Ellis: Okay.
Ann Kuehn: Or you
Carol Kimbrough: I
Ann Kuehn: can
Carol Kimbrough: can't
Ann Kuehn: uh
Carol Kimbrough: see the.
Ann Kuehn: turn it inside.
Carol Kimbrough: But, uh the
Ann Kuehn: But
Carol Kimbrough: easy
Ann Kuehn: that's
Carol Kimbrough: of uh, th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it.
Sallie Rivera: Huh.
Ann Kuehn: No, that's true.
Carol Kimbrough: Uh, for us it's about to sell it. Uh
Linda Ellis: Yeah of
Sallie Rivera: This
Linda Ellis: course.
Sallie Rivera: is something new.
Linda Ellis: Okay. Then this is the design. And the buttons are on the next page. So, depends on the cost. So,
Sallie Rivera: Costs are okay.
Linda Ellis: um we have one minute.
Carol Kimbrough: One.
Linda Ellis: I think.
Carol Kimbrough: No.
Linda Ellis: No.
Carol Kimbrough: You have more.
Linda Ellis: More. Seven.
Carol Kimbrough: You have still ten.
Linda Ellis: Next meeting. Thirty minutes. So hurry up.
Sallie Rivera: Oh, that's us together.
Linda Ellis: You two stay here. Paint it.
Ann Kuehn: Okay.
Linda Ellis: Now you have to. So I think it's clear. Check your mail. So
Carol Kimbrough: Yeah.
Sallie Rivera: Yes.
Linda Ellis: It has to be ready in the next meeting. So
Carol Kimbrough: What?
Ann Kuehn: Cookie.
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Linda Ellis: Next meeting is called the detailed design. So Everyth everything has to be ready.
Carol Kimbrough: Okay.
Linda Ellis: Thanks for your attention.
Sallie Rivera: 'Kay.
Carol Kimbrough: See you at the next meeting.
Sallie Rivera: Bye bye. | Sallie Rivera gave a presentation on the interface concept, discussing which buttons will be needed and then looking at some examples of existing remote controls. He suggested using a yellow case with rounded edges and the logo at the bottom, and large, clearly marked buttons. The interface expert informed the group that young people like curved shapes, soft materials and primary colours, and suggested making a hand-shaped remote in plastic and rubber. He talked about the possibility of using a scroll button, and the different chips which could be used. The group discussed using an LCD screen, but did not have enough information about costs to make a decision. Carol Kimbrough talked about new trends, including the trends for spongy materials and fruit and vegetable themed products. The group had a discussion and decided to create two designs, one with an LCD screen and one without, and the interface designer drew them on the board. They put off making a final decision about using an LCD screen, scroll buttons and a menu button until they could find out about costs. | 0 | amisum | test |
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Inez Carbary: For the cameras
Tasha Powell: For i for the cameras, yes.
Inez Carbary: Alright.
Tasha Powell: Good morning, Sebastian.
Tammy Smith: Good morning, Mister P_M_. How are you today?
Tasha Powell: I'm fine.
Tammy Smith: How was your business trip to Boston?
Tasha Powell: Um well, actually I didn't go,
Inez Carbary: Geez.
Tasha Powell: didn't feel like it. So Do you want to open it as read-only. Um I guess I should close it here.
Inez Carbary: You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um sen oh stand-by. Close the the
Lupita Brown: Okay.
Inez Carbary: window.
Tasha Powell: Okay, the waiting
Inez Carbary: So
Tasha Powell: is for our Marketing Expert,
Inez Carbary: That's
Tasha Powell: Ruud.
Inez Carbary: right. Ruud.
Tasha Powell: Um project kick-off.
Tammy Smith: Is there a schedule for this meeting?
Tasha Powell: Yes, there is actually. Um I will li list the agenda for today. For this meeting. Good morning, Ruud.
Lupita Brown: Good morning.
Tasha Powell: Uh it's important um
Tammy Smith: I shall close the door.
Tasha Powell: yeah, great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square, um for the cameras. Okay.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product. Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager
Inez Carbary: Mm-hmm.
Tasha Powell: about it. Um and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as Lupita Brown, Roo is here as Inez Carbary and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct?
Tammy Smith: That's correct.
Inez Carbary: Mm-hmm.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Um we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan, uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes, so
Inez Carbary: Alright.
Tasha Powell: we
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: should keep that in mind.
Tammy Smith: Um is there any room for a little presentation? Uh maybe during the discussion uh
Tasha Powell: There is?
Tammy Smith: section?
Tasha Powell: Yeah, there is.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: No problem. Um okay, this new product we are are g are going to develop, um it's a remote control, a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original, it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals, um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop. Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and
Inez Carbary: Okay.
Tasha Powell: all those kind of things. The market, we should have a look at the market. Um we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development, um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design, the conceptual design and the detailed design, um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work, prepare, and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the the
Inez Carbary: Progressions.
Tasha Powell: the progressions, yes. Um the first stage, the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements, and we will um make a specific uh specification of that. Um the second is the technical functional design, um what effect should the remote have? Well in this case control t the the television
Inez Carbary: It's for the
Tasha Powell: I
Inez Carbary: vision.
Tasha Powell: think.
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages, uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it keep it with the functional design. Okay, um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation. Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um to um presentate, to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder, which is on your desktop, at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system. Um yeah, I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh
Inez Carbary: Sensors.
Tasha Powell: sensors, so do not grab it here, but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well, it it's on the um eraser now, so we click the pen button.
Tasha Powell: Okay, so not too fast writing. Um you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day. Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.
Inez Carbary: But we all use the same white-board file
Tasha Powell: Yes.
Inez Carbary: So we can work together on it while we're or
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Inez Carbary: should we only use it in?
Tasha Powell: Yeah, in the meetings, only in the
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tasha Powell: meetings.
Inez Carbary: okay.
Tasha Powell: It's really like like a regu
Inez Carbary: Yeah, alright.
Tasha Powell: regular whiteboard.
Inez Carbary: Yep.
Tasha Powell: Um you can choose the format, um sorry. Uh Let Lupita Brown see. Um Well I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour, you can choose another colour. And um for example black, and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy, do have any questions, just c ask Lupita Brown. Um to um oh well, I'm I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected.
Lupita Brown: Okay.
Lupita Brown: Um green.
Lupita Brown: An animal. Okay. Um
Lupita Brown: Uh
Inez Carbary: It's a bunny.
Lupita Brown: a wee rabbit.
Tasha Powell: A rabbit.
Tammy Smith: Alright.
Tasha Powell: Okay, well great. Um Roo, could you do the same please?
Inez Carbary: But of course,
Tasha Powell: But
Inez Carbary: Flores.
Tasha Powell: a different animal with a different colour and a different line width.
Inez Carbary: Blank.
Tasha Powell: Sebastian is thinking about the animal.
Tammy Smith: I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal.
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Inez Carbary: Yeah, I'm think about it too. Format.
Inez Carbary: Well, it looked more than a bunny than a cat, but it works, right?
Tasha Powell: It it should be a cat.
Lupita Brown: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: Okay?
Tammy Smith: Well, I'll give it a try.
Tammy Smith: Mm.
Tasha Powell: I'm guessing a horse.
Tammy Smith: Very good.
Inez Carbary: With a very small legs.
Tammy Smith: I very good in drawing.
Inez Carbary: You should feed that uh that animal.
Tammy Smith: Well, I guess you uh get the idea.
Tasha Powell: Yes, okay.
Tammy Smith: Beautiful.
Tasha Powell: Beautiful. Okay, so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions well, just just let Lupita Brown know. Um okay, back to our project. Um the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros, which is quite a number. Um we uh we will focus this internationally, so the product will be sold um, if there is market uh interest, uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty, so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development, um because uh, well, those are important numbers. Um then the discussion, maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation.
Tammy Smith: Yes, um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion, because uh there might be some uh
Tasha Powell: Limitations.
Tammy Smith: influations influences.
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Inez Carbary: Okay.
Tammy Smith: Okay?
Tasha Powell: Okay, great.
Tammy Smith: Okay. Um first about my role, role of Tammy Smith. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things, and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas, uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions, but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one. Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that, but well, these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product.
Inez Carbary: Okay.
Tammy Smith: I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance, uh D_V_D_ players, cell phones, video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment.
Inez Carbary: And for a cell phone?
Tammy Smith: Well, there should be some interoperabi
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tammy Smith: interoperability
Inez Carbary: okay.
Tammy Smith: between them.
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore, so infrared is not uh is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things
Inez Carbary: But
Tammy Smith: like uh Bluetooth.
Inez Carbary: Yeah, but the infrared, it's uh, well, a little bit old-fashioned, if you would
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: call it like that.
Tammy Smith: But it's
Inez Carbary: But
Tammy Smith: cost-effective.
Inez Carbary: all the T_V_s are
Tammy Smith: Yes.
Inez Carbary: uh equipped with infrared, so
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: y
Tammy Smith: Well,
Inez Carbary: you you can
Tammy Smith: not all, not all. So that's the point.
Inez Carbary: Most of them.
Tammy Smith: So
Inez Carbary: Or you shou sh use a you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together
Tammy Smith: Maybe,
Inez Carbary: in one
Tammy Smith: but
Inez Carbary: remote.
Tammy Smith: that's uh something we should discuss
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role, I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input, and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look,
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: but take these things into account when you start the discussion.
Tasha Powell: Okay, so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability,
Tammy Smith: Yes, so
Tasha Powell: and
Tammy Smith: one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment,
Tasha Powell: Okay, and
Tammy Smith: and
Tasha Powell: and
Tammy Smith: the
Tasha Powell: uh
Tammy Smith: way of communicating with these equipments.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Okay, good.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: Um that was your presentation?
Tammy Smith: That's it.
Tasha Powell: Okay, okay. Um okay. Great. Um I'll go back to my own presentation. Um Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things. Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um how to make it trendy, which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user, which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part.
Inez Carbary: Mm-hmm.
Tasha Powell: Um so let's start with you. H how do you think the remote should um function for the user?
Inez Carbary: Well, I had a few uh things in mind. Um well, the interoperability, just like uh Sebastian said, um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um Yeah uh, what is it, devices?
Tasha Powell: Yep.
Inez Carbary: Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.
Tammy Smith: Yes, I think it should
Inez Carbary: It's not
Tammy Smith: be
Inez Carbary: for
Tammy Smith: something
Inez Carbary: uh
Tammy Smith: like
Inez Carbary: for
Tammy Smith: that.
Inez Carbary: uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product, right?
Tasha Powell: Okay, so we're we're going business to consumer, not we're we're it's
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tasha Powell: not a
Inez Carbary: I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh
Tammy Smith: We're
Inez Carbary: don't
Tammy Smith: not
Inez Carbary: have
Tammy Smith: developing
Inez Carbary: the information
Tammy Smith: this
Inez Carbary: for
Tammy Smith: product
Inez Carbary: it.
Tammy Smith: for a specific vendor, are
Tasha Powell: No.
Tammy Smith: we? No,
Tasha Powell: No.
Tammy Smith: we're
Inez Carbary: No,
Tammy Smith: just
Inez Carbary: okay.
Tammy Smith: developing this product, and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public, so
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: it should fit to every device.
Tasha Powell: Uh Ruud, y
Lupita Brown: Yeah,
Tasha Powell: do
Lupita Brown: I
Tasha Powell: you
Lupita Brown: think
Tasha Powell: agree?
Lupita Brown: I think they're right, yeah.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Okay.
Inez Carbary: Um Well, the techni fu technical function uh what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function.
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Inez Carbary: So that was my really my part for uh this session. Um
Tasha Powell: So is that
Tammy Smith: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: ease of use or uh is that more like um
Inez Carbary: Well, that's just the fu the technical function is pure what should the remote control do, wh what is his task uh
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: as an uh as an uh device. It just should change the T_V_'s
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Inez Carbary: state. So that's it. Um but
Tammy Smith: And
Inez Carbary: furthermore
Tammy Smith: you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this?
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: Or are there any o other
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tammy Smith: controls?
Inez Carbary: with buttons.
Tammy Smith: Are there
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tammy Smith: only
Inez Carbary: or
Tammy Smith: any other
Inez Carbary: maybe
Tammy Smith: cont
Inez Carbary: you want a touch-screen or
Tammy Smith: Well,
Inez Carbary: But
Tammy Smith: I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward,
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: sidewords.
Tasha Powell: Uh-huh.
Tammy Smith: You know these things. And um it's
Inez Carbary: They're
Tammy Smith: very
Inez Carbary: very vu
Tammy Smith: easy
Inez Carbary: vulnerable.
Tammy Smith: for a user to to switch w yes,
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_, on on a chapters, you know, on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea, I don't know.
Inez Carbary: Yeah. And for other user interface I had um, well, it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_, I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: point directly to the T_V_, so you must point everywhere, so
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Inez Carbary: maybe infrared
Tasha Powell: Maybe
Inez Carbary: is
Tasha Powell: not even pointed.
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Inez Carbary: just don't even point it, so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: that.
Tasha Powell: Okay
Tammy Smith: Uh
Tasha Powell: Uh
Tammy Smith: is that uh are there restriction for the range, the operating range too? So when you're not able to point at the device um
Inez Carbary: Yeah, if you
Tammy Smith: the
Inez Carbary: g
Tammy Smith: range
Inez Carbary: if you
Tammy Smith: is
Inez Carbary: go to
Tammy Smith: very
Inez Carbary: radio
Tammy Smith: limited.
Inez Carbary: or or yeah. For T_V_, you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_, so I don't think think the range should
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: be a problem to
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: that, but if you want to uh get it working with a radio, and you're in outside your garden with just one uh speaker,
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: then maybe the range should be uh
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: Okay,
Inez Carbary: But
Tasha Powell: gentlemen, um uh just a reminder, we d we have five minutes left for
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: this meeting
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: um
Inez Carbary: Two more things.
Tasha Powell: okay.
Inez Carbary: Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons, so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand. You
Tasha Powell: Okay,
Inez Carbary: must feel
Tasha Powell: s
Inez Carbary: the buttons for
Tasha Powell: yeah.
Inez Carbary: volume or whatever, I think.
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Inez Carbary: And of course you don't always know where all buttons are, so it should be visible al um in dark too. So
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Inez Carbary: when it's dark Those are two really uh user interface
Tasha Powell: Uh I'll write down glow in the dark.
Inez Carbary: Yeah. That's
Tasha Powell: Is tha
Inez Carbary: perfect.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Okay,
Tammy Smith: Do
Tasha Powell: um
Tammy Smith: do you
Tasha Powell: uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting. Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the such a product? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product?
Lupita Brown: Uh I think most most things have already been said, like uh control multiple devices.
Tasha Powell: Mm-hmm.
Lupita Brown: And uh, yeah, infrared might be an issue.
Tasha Powell: Because?
Lupita Brown: Uh well, he said about n abo what he said about pointing.
Tasha Powell: Mm-hmm.
Lupita Brown: But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So implement that.
Tasha Powell: Okay. Okay.
Tasha Powell: Okay, Sebastian, did you have any other
Tammy Smith: Um
Tasha Powell: ideas?
Tammy Smith: well yes, I had, uh about three minutes ago, but I've seem to forget them forgot them. Um oh yes, I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark. Um
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control, on which you can see functions? Which makes it easier to operate
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: it.
Inez Carbary: Well, maybe I um but
Tammy Smith: I
Inez Carbary: it
Tammy Smith: I don't
Inez Carbary: it
Tammy Smith: know.
Inez Carbary: can be quite simple, you can just have white buttons
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: with a black mark
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Inez Carbary: on it. The uh the the digits in
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Inez Carbary: black. Uh then it's already visible in dark.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Inez Carbary: So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy well,
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Inez Carbary: it can
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Inez Carbary: be for
Tasha Powell: Yeah,
Inez Carbary: design,
Tasha Powell: yeah,
Inez Carbary: of course.
Tasha Powell: okay, because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product.
Tammy Smith: Yes, but
Tasha Powell: So
Tammy Smith: there's a cost limitation too. Well, that's
Tasha Powell: Yeah,
Lupita Brown: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: more
Tasha Powell: twelve Euro fifty,
Tammy Smith: So
Tasha Powell: yeah.
Tammy Smith: that's a big problem, I think. I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product. The
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Tammy Smith: cost price is very low. Um
Inez Carbary: Just remind something. The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade.
Tasha Powell: Okay,
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Inez Carbary: You have a m
Tammy Smith: Very
Tasha Powell: okay.
Inez Carbary: uh
Tammy Smith: good point. Yeah.
Inez Carbary: Always have s the soft buttons, always uh clear the the the paint on it. The marks.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: Okay, um I ha I have one point f um which which comes in mind now. Um uh d I think the device should either be rechargeable very
Tammy Smith: Mm-hmm.
Tasha Powell: easily
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: um or it should not consume too much um power. Because it's very annoying if you need to change the batteries every s uh uh every other week.
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: So um maybe we could um for example uh only
Inez Carbary: But um
Tasha Powell: light the buttons that are um
Inez Carbary: Necessary,
Tasha Powell: uh applicable at that
Inez Carbary: yeah.
Tasha Powell: moment or yeah. I dunno, it's uh that's more Sebastian's
Inez Carbary: Yeah.
Tasha Powell: uh um
Tammy Smith: Hmm.
Inez Carbary: But then Bluetooth uh might be problem. 'Cause I think Bluetooth uh
Tammy Smith: It's use uh a lot of uh
Inez Carbary: Yeah,
Tasha Powell: Well
Tammy Smith: well
Tasha Powell: does
Inez Carbary: I know
Tasha Powell: it?
Inez Carbary: it from the cell
Tasha Powell: I'm
Inez Carbary: phone.
Tasha Powell: not sure.
Tammy Smith: Well,
Tasha Powell: Uh
Tammy Smith: cell phones have uh integrated Bluetooth also and, well, it's it seems to work uh quite okay.
Tasha Powell: Yeah.
Inez Carbary: But
Tammy Smith: technically
Inez Carbary: you can't
Tammy Smith: it will
Inez Carbary: you
Tammy Smith: be
Inez Carbary: can't
Tammy Smith: possible.
Inez Carbary: use Bluetooth all the time, twenty four hours a day.
Tammy Smith: No,
Tasha Powell: Okay.
Tammy Smith: you cannot.
Inez Carbary: Does it
Tasha Powell: Gentlemen,
Inez Carbary: It's over?
Tasha Powell: I'm
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: afraid we do not have any more time. Um
Tammy Smith: Okay.
Tasha Powell: so we will go back to our own uh work. Um next meeting starts in thirty minutes and um, well, you know your o your individual actions or your personal coach will probably email you about th it. Um so this was it.
Inez Carbary: Okay.
Tasha Powell: See you in thirty minutes.
Inez Carbary: Great. | Tasha Powell opened the meeting and introduced the project, describing what the project would involve, the role of each participant and the agenda for the first meeting. He the demonstrated the equipment the group would be using, and the group practiced using the SMARTboard by drawing their favourite animals. Tasha Powell then went over the project budget. Tammy Smith gave a brief presentation about his role and his initial ideas for the project, suggesting that the remote should be used for multiple devices and that the group should consider using bluetooth rather than infrared. Tasha Powell then asked the others about their initial ideas. Inez Carbary agreed that the remote should control multiple devices. They also discussed having glow in the dark buttons, using bluetooth instead of infrared and using a display and/or a joystick instead of conventional buttons. However, they were unsure about what the budget would allow. Tasha Powell suggested that the remote should be rechargeable or not use much power, but this might be difficult if using bluetooth. Tasha Powell closed the meeting. | 0 | amisum | test |
Brenda Thompson: Okay, good morning. This is our first
Terrie Yarbrough: Good
Brenda Thompson: team.
Terrie Yarbrough: day.
Cheryl Alvarado: Morning.
Sierra Vanochten: Morning.
Brenda Thompson: I'll be your Project Manager for today, for this project. My name is Mark will be giving this presentation for you to kick the project off. That's my uh that's the agenda for today. Well, of course we're new to each other, so I'd like to get acquainted first. So let's do that first, I mean Let's start with you, can you introduce yourself? You're our Marketing Expert.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yes. Um my name is Dirk Meinfeld. Um I will be uh Pr Project Cheryl Alvarado. And I will see what the user wants and uh what we can do uh with the new produ project product.
Brenda Thompson: Okay, excellent. And
Terrie Yarbrough: Nick
Brenda Thompson: User
Terrie Yarbrough: Broer,
Brenda Thompson: Interface
Terrie Yarbrough: User
Brenda Thompson: Yeah.
Terrie Yarbrough: Interface Designer I'm. going to uh look at the technical design from the uh user point of view.
Brenda Thompson: Excellent. Okay.
Sierra Vanochten: My name is Xavier Juergens, I'm the Designer, and there are three main questions that I have to find an answer to today. First one is uh what happens inside the apparatus, second
Cheryl Alvarado: Hmm.
Sierra Vanochten: is what is uh the apparatus made of, and the third is what should it look like.
Brenda Thompson: What should it look like? Okay.
Cheryl Alvarado: Hmm.
Brenda Thompson: Oh, let's kick it off. Oh, there we go. So, our new project is about we need design a remote control for television set, so, which has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I took this off our corporate website. It's I think well it sums up what we need to do. We're inspired by latest fashion, not only electronics, but also the latest trends in clothes and interior design. That's why our product will always fit in your home. So apparently we need to um be very at um very open to what's currently hot in the market. So that's what you need
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: to do to bring us the latest info and
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: what people want. So So we put the fashion in electronics. So that's what we need to go for. Anyway, we'll take this project in three steps, three pha uh three phase of design. First step will be the functional design.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: And that's basically what we're gonna do. Everybody has uh a piece of individual work and a meeting afterwards, so we can share information about So I'm gonna keep this short, since we had a technical problem. So skip through this. Uh. Okay. Every meeting we everybody can present their uh their views and everything, so to help with these, you have we have the SMARTboards here. We can use a regular PowerPoint presentation. I'm supposed to give you an introduction on this doodling board, so it's actually it's very easy. Like it says, very simple, you just take out the pen. Like you see here, I'll just take the take here. That's it, you just put it on the board. You see a pen here. You go here, just like using a pen. You can just draw whatever you want. It's like the eraser, can erase whatever you want. And so it will be easy just to illustrate your views, if you wanna change the format, you just either take out jus just like the pen, and whatever you want, your current colour, your line width, just to make the line bigger. So it should be really easy.
Cheryl Alvarado: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: This is to take the just take a new slide and back again. We're just gonna keep using this board all the time, so I think it will be it's very clear for everyone, I suppose. So I'll take this out. Okay. We'll use that later. Anyway. Yeah, just just just stuff that you wanna share, just put it in the in the project folder, like I put my presentation now. I'll put the the minutes of every meeting, I'll put them there too, so everybody can read up if they have to leave early or whatever. So next, been here. Well, gonna give the electronic white-board uh a shot. So basic idea is we have a blank sheet. Just try whatever you want, and like it says, draw your favourite animal. I think the creative genius should go first.
Terrie Yarbrough: The creative genius? Thank you very much.
Brenda Thompson: So, draw us your favourite animal.
Terrie Yarbrough: Well, I'm more into the technical aspects of drawing, so I'm not really good
Brenda Thompson: Draw
Terrie Yarbrough: at
Brenda Thompson: us
Terrie Yarbrough: drawing
Brenda Thompson: a technical
Terrie Yarbrough: animals,
Brenda Thompson: animal.
Terrie Yarbrough: but uh the animal which I Oh.
Brenda Thompson: Yeah, it's still erasing.
Terrie Yarbrough: Pen. Uh format. Else my animal will be like king-size. I pretty much like a dolphin, because of its uh its freedom basically. A head. actually worked with this. It's like uh it's a very Uh high-tech. Bit low-responsive though. Prefer pen and paper.
Brenda Thompson: So that's what we don't want. We want a high-responsive product. So It looks more
Cheryl Alvarado: Very
Brenda Thompson: like nuclear
Cheryl Alvarado: nice
Brenda Thompson: bomb.
Cheryl Alvarado: dolphin.
Terrie Yarbrough: It doesn't look like a nuclear bomb. This thing isn't doing what I'm What I want. So
Brenda Thompson: Let's go easy on it.
Terrie Yarbrough: Yeah, well it does look like a nuclear bomb. I'll just finish up real soon, because I'm
Terrie Yarbrough: So it doesn't really look like a dolphin, but then
Brenda Thompson: Anyway,
Terrie Yarbrough: again,
Brenda Thompson: it should
Terrie Yarbrough: this
Brenda Thompson: It
Terrie Yarbrough: is all new
Brenda Thompson: It's
Terrie Yarbrough: for
Brenda Thompson: supposed
Terrie Yarbrough: Cheryl Alvarado.
Brenda Thompson: to be a dolphin, you like the freedom that
Sierra Vanochten: Uh-huh.
Brenda Thompson: it that it represents.
Terrie Yarbrough: Like the ocean, like swimming. Do that in my spare time, so that's basically an
Brenda Thompson: What do you like? Okay. Well,
Terrie Yarbrough: Now we can forget
Brenda Thompson: our
Terrie Yarbrough: this
Brenda Thompson: Marketing
Terrie Yarbrough: ever
Brenda Thompson: Expert.
Terrie Yarbrough: happened.
Brenda Thompson: Show us an animal.
Cheryl Alvarado: Um an animal. I like
Brenda Thompson: Pick
Cheryl Alvarado: the elephant.
Brenda Thompson: a pick a pick a clean sheet. Oh.
Cheryl Alvarado: What?
Brenda Thompson: Take a clean sheet
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: first.
Cheryl Alvarado: Um
Brenda Thompson: Just press next. That's
Cheryl Alvarado: Oh
Brenda Thompson: it.
Cheryl Alvarado: yeah. Oh, a blank. Okay next, Free, I like the elephant. It's big, it's strong, so uh uh Oh, it's a little bit
Terrie Yarbrough: It's not
Cheryl Alvarado: You
Terrie Yarbrough: really
Cheryl Alvarado: have to
Terrie Yarbrough: that
Cheryl Alvarado: hold
Terrie Yarbrough: responsive,
Cheryl Alvarado: it, right?
Terrie Yarbrough: no.
Sierra Vanochten: Mm.
Cheryl Alvarado: Hmm. It's a beautiful animal.
Cheryl Alvarado: Oh, you have to p press it pretty hard. With a smile on it, it's very important.
Brenda Thompson: It's a cute elephant.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Cheryl Alvarado: And uh not to forget its tail. Oh.
Brenda Thompson: It's a nice beard.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah, it's okay.
Terrie Yarbrough: And you
Cheryl Alvarado: Yes.
Terrie Yarbrough: was making comments on my dolphin.
Cheryl Alvarado: I will beat the dolphin. No.
Brenda Thompson: Okay, so it's just a bee.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: So I suggest you make us the elephant in the market. The big and strong player in the market.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: This would be good.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: Okay, excellent. On to the next one.
Sierra Vanochten: Okay.
Cheryl Alvarado: Uh yeah.
Sierra Vanochten: Okay, you should press
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Sierra Vanochten: next.
Brenda Thompson: Press next. Yeah, it's up there.
Sierra Vanochten: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: That's it.
Sierra Vanochten: Okay, well the animal I'd like to draw is a tiger.
Terrie Yarbrough: You picked a hard one, didn't you?
Cheryl Alvarado: Experience with the tiger. What? They are
Sierra Vanochten: They are really bad, my drawing
Cheryl Alvarado: Okay
Sierra Vanochten: skills.
Cheryl Alvarado: uh-huh.
Brenda Thompson: Sure looks smooth.
Cheryl Alvarado: Oh.
Sierra Vanochten: I'm not sure how the legs should go, but
Sierra Vanochten: Uh these are stripes.
Terrie Yarbrough: Got it.
Sierra Vanochten: I've picked this animal because it's very fast. It is uh it knows exactly what it wants. Uh it hardly ever wastes any resources.
Brenda Thompson: What does it want?
Sierra Vanochten: Uh well, basically uh it hunts for prey, but it does it always in a very well-thought way. Uh it knows exactly what it wants. It never kills an animal uh just for the killing, so it's very efficient. And it tries to do everything as fast as possible.
Brenda Thompson: Okay.
Sierra Vanochten: And it always goes for uh security, in seeking uh uh
Cheryl Alvarado: Mm.
Sierra Vanochten: a hide spot and uh and doing everything, security, speed and efficiency is important. And I think uh those
Brenda Thompson: I agree.
Sierra Vanochten: things we can use.
Cheryl Alvarado: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: Yay, I'm supposed to draw the animal next. I introduce to the world the amazing
Brenda Thompson: ant.
Cheryl Alvarado: Uh hard worker.
Brenda Thompson: Great team-workers.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Sierra Vanochten: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: Do everything to Uh really small, but together they're really strong. So I'm
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah, yeah.
Sierra Vanochten: Oh.
Brenda Thompson: gonna give it a smiley face. Not sure where the p. Just put 'em here. Whatever. Think it need shoes. So
Brenda Thompson: That's the coolest ant ever.
Terrie Yarbrough: You've done this before, haven't you?
Brenda Thompson: I love to draw ants. It's my hobby. Anyway Nah. Just I think it's very representative what we drew, I guess. Like you take
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: just take your freedom and use a a trendy interface that you design for us. Just Yeah. You're supposed to make i make it different from uh from what other people have, and just make it a little distinct. Anyway. another beep to stop the meeting. See. Warning. Finish meeting now. Uh put this down. Examples. Well I guess we have a little little time extra, but Just a little quick discussion to to open open our work. So what do you guys think about The first idea is just very short. I'll start with you. What are y What are your first ideas for the new product?
Terrie Yarbrough: Well, I basically
Brenda Thompson: What
Terrie Yarbrough: had a question. Do uh Are we going to introduce a multi remote control? Is it just the T_V_ or do we want to
Cheryl Alvarado: Uh
Brenda Thompson: The project
Terrie Yarbrough: in
Brenda Thompson: I got was just for a T_V_ remote control.
Terrie Yarbrough: Just for T_V_
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Terrie Yarbrough: remote
Brenda Thompson: Yeah,
Terrie Yarbrough: control.
Brenda Thompson: I guess so.
Terrie Yarbrough: Okay. Well, I was
Cheryl Alvarado: But
Terrie Yarbrough: thinking about design remote control, with our uh motto and all. Uh thing to keep in mind is that we need to stick to what people are familiar with.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Terrie Yarbrough: No rational changes or whatever, 'cause
Brenda Thompson: Okay,
Terrie Yarbrough: it
Brenda Thompson: so very
Terrie Yarbrough: revolutionary
Brenda Thompson: intuitive design,
Terrie Yarbrough: changes,
Brenda Thompson: I guess.
Terrie Yarbrough: yes. Uh we might have to consider other design aspects of our product. So that was something I wanted to add, and perhaps some usability aspect. T_V_ is becoming central in most homes. Do we want people who are disabled in any way to uh, yeah,
Brenda Thompson: Yeah,
Terrie Yarbrough: to be able
Brenda Thompson: we
Terrie Yarbrough: to
Brenda Thompson: want
Terrie Yarbrough: use it as well?
Brenda Thompson: I suppose we want almost everyone to be using it. So I think I mean, really disabled people, yeah, might be a problem, but I think it's a little take it into consideration. Um yeah. I think we really need to cut the meeting short. You have
Sierra Vanochten: Hmm.
Brenda Thompson: anything you
Cheryl Alvarado: Uh.
Brenda Thompson: wanna share quickly?
Sierra Vanochten: Only one thing uh that has to be added according to Cheryl Alvarado is uh the the material it is made of, it should be something light. That's
Terrie Yarbrough: Yeah.
Sierra Vanochten: it speaks for itself, but
Brenda Thompson: It
Sierra Vanochten: some
Brenda Thompson: should be
Sierra Vanochten: uh
Brenda Thompson: light, okay.
Sierra Vanochten: Yeah.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yeah.
Brenda Thompson: Um, let's see, where did I Let's skip that. Oh, this is it. Sorry, I skipped
Cheryl Alvarado: Selling
Brenda Thompson: this sheet.
Cheryl Alvarado: price.
Brenda Thompson: What do we This Quick What we're going to Selling price, twenty five Euros. That's for you. The production price, twelve and a
Sierra Vanochten: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: half Euros, approximately. Just go go for that. We'll
Sierra Vanochten: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: reach the uh reach that profit.
Terrie Yarbrough: Okay, well that's not that much
Cheryl Alvarado: international.
Terrie Yarbrough: to work with.
Brenda Thompson: No, it's not much to work on. I'm sorry, I skipped it. Anyways, that's Yeah, this is it. Do you have anything you you came up with yet? About uh marketing transfer, whatever?
Cheryl Alvarado: Um about what? Marketing?
Brenda Thompson: Marketing I'm not sure what you what you came up with yet. You have anything to share? Or else we'll cut the meeting just cut the
Cheryl Alvarado: Um
Brenda Thompson: meeting short since we're supposed
Cheryl Alvarado: no,
Brenda Thompson: to stop.
Cheryl Alvarado: not really yet, but
Brenda Thompson: Okay.
Cheryl Alvarado: I've some ideas and I will uh
Brenda Thompson: Anyways,
Cheryl Alvarado: say
Brenda Thompson: the
Cheryl Alvarado: it
Brenda Thompson: the
Cheryl Alvarado: uh
Brenda Thompson: personal coach will give you the your p your personal assignments and everything. So we'll just meet back in here thirty minutes.
Sierra Vanochten: Okay.
Cheryl Alvarado: Okay.
Brenda Thompson: I'm sure we have that.
Sierra Vanochten: Good luck everyone.
Brenda Thompson: Yeah, thanks for attending.
Terrie Yarbrough: Mm, good luck.
Brenda Thompson: I'll see you back here in thirty minutes.
Cheryl Alvarado: Okay.
Cheryl Alvarado: Yes. | The goal of the project is to design an original, trendy and user-friendly remote control for TV. The team comprises Brenda Thompson, Cheryl Alvarado, who is looking at user needs, Terrie Yarbrough, looking at usability, and Sierra Vanochten, working on the engineering and materials. The project will be completed with three further meetings: the following meeting concerns the functional design. Brenda Thompson gave a quick overview of the equipment available. The remote needs to be produced for 12.50 euros in order to be sold for double that amount. The whole team tried out the SMARTboard, by drawing their favourite animals. Afterwards, they discussed briefly their first ideas, including the use of light materials and usability concerns. | 0 | amisum | test |
Dale Rogers: Okay Right. Um well this is the meeting for our our project. Um and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes.
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Um so first of all, just to kind of make sure that we all know each other, I'm Laura and I'm Dale Rogers. Do
Ted Eaddy: Great.
Dale Rogers: you want to introduce yourself again?
Kelvin Bedford: Hi, I'm David and be an industrial designer.
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: And Andrew and I'm uh marketing
Thomas Cantara: Um
Ted Eaddy: expert.
Thomas Cantara: I'm Craig and I'm User Interface.
Dale Rogers: Great. Okay. Um so we're designing a new remote control and um Oh I have to record who's here actually. So David, Andrew and Craig, it? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh design a new remote control. Um, as you can see it's supposed to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief, as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get?
Kelvin Bedford: Um, I just got the project announcement about
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Kelvin Bedford: what the project is. Designing
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Kelvin Bedford: a remote control. That's about it,
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Kelvin Bedford: didn't
Ted Eaddy: Yeah,
Kelvin Bedford: get
Ted Eaddy: that's
Kelvin Bedford: anything
Ted Eaddy: that's
Kelvin Bedford: else.
Dale Rogers: Is that what
Ted Eaddy: it.
Dale Rogers: everybody
Thomas Cantara: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: Did
Dale Rogers: got?
Kelvin Bedford: you get the same thing?
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Dale Rogers: Um. So we're gonna have like individual work and then a meeting about it. And repeat that process three times. Um and at this point we get try out the whiteboard over there. Um. So uh you get to draw your favourite animal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it. So who would like to go
Ted Eaddy: I
Dale Rogers: first?
Ted Eaddy: will go. That's fine.
Dale Rogers: Very good.
Ted Eaddy: Alright. So This one here, right?
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like
Ted Eaddy: A beagle.
Ted Eaddy: Um charac favourite characteristics of it? Is that right?
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: Uh,
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: right, well basically um high priority for any animal for is that they be willing take a lot of physical their family. And, yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health. So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle.
Dale Rogers: Right. Lovely.
Thomas Cantara: Well, my favourite animal would be a monkey.
Thomas Cantara: Then they're small cute and furry, and uh when planet of the apes becomes real, I'm gonna be up there with them.
Dale Rogers: Right.
Kelvin Bedford: Cool. There's too much gear.
Dale Rogers: You can take as long over this as you like, because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss. Ok oh we do we do. Don't feel like you're in a rush, anyway.
Kelvin Bedford: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles.
Dale Rogers: Ach
Ted Eaddy: Boy, let Ted Eaddy tell
Dale Rogers: why not
Ted Eaddy: you.
Dale Rogers: We might have to get you up again then. I don't know what mine is. I'm gonna have to think on the spot now.
Ted Eaddy: Impressionist.
Kelvin Bedford: Can't draw.
Dale Rogers: Is
Kelvin Bedford: Um.
Dale Rogers: that a whale?
Kelvin Bedford: Yeah. Um, well anyway, I don't know, it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic
Dale Rogers: Ah.
Kelvin Bedford: to animal fur, so um fish was a natural choice. Um, yeah, and I kind of like whales. They come in and go eat everything in sight. And they're quite
Ted Eaddy: Alright.
Kelvin Bedford: harmless and mild and interesting.
Ted Eaddy: Mm.
Dale Rogers: Okay. God, I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um.
Ted Eaddy: Superb sketch, by the way.
Kelvin Bedford: Tail's a bit big, I think.
Dale Rogers: I was gonna choose a dog as well. But I'll just draw a different kind of dog.
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: M my favourite animal is my own dog at home. Um That doesn't really look like him, actually. He looks more like a pig, actually. Ah well.
Ted Eaddy: I see a dog in there.
Dale Rogers: Do you?
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: Oh that's very good of you.
Ted Eaddy: Now I see a rooster.
Dale Rogers: Uh.
Ted Eaddy: What kind is it?
Dale Rogers: Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him, um That's just to suggest that his tail wags. Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you, and very kind of affectionate and um uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can doesn't take up too much space. Um and uh And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well, which is quite amusing,
Ted Eaddy: Is
Dale Rogers: so
Ted Eaddy: he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing?
Dale Rogers: It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail
Ted Eaddy: Hmm.
Dale Rogers: 'round the living room.
Kelvin Bedford: It's an after dinner dog then.
Dale Rogers: Yeah, so
Ted Eaddy: Probably when
Dale Rogers: uh
Ted Eaddy: he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and
Dale Rogers: Yeah,
Ted Eaddy: has
Dale Rogers: maybe.
Ted Eaddy: forever been conditioned.
Dale Rogers: Maybe. Right, um where did you find this? Just down here? Yeah. Okay. Um what are we doing next? Uh um. Okay, uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro, um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't
Ted Eaddy: 'Kay.
Dale Rogers: want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros, so fifty percent of the selling price.
Ted Eaddy: Um, can we just go over that again?
Dale Rogers: Sure.
Ted Eaddy: Uh, so bas at twel Alright, yeah. Okay. So cost like production cost is
Dale Rogers: All together.
Ted Eaddy: twelve fifty, but selling price is is that wholesale or retail? Like on the shelf.
Dale Rogers: Um I dunno. I imagine That's a good
Ted Eaddy: Our
Dale Rogers: question.
Ted Eaddy: sale our sale anyway.
Dale Rogers: I imagine it probably is our
Ted Eaddy: Yeah,
Dale Rogers: sale
Ted Eaddy: okay
Dale Rogers: actually because it's probably
Ted Eaddy: okay.
Dale Rogers: up to the the um the retailer to uh
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Dale Rogers: sell it for whatever price they want.
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Um.
Ted Eaddy: Alright.
Dale Rogers: But I I don't know, I mean do you think the fact that it's going to be sold internationally will have a bearing on how we design it at all?
Ted Eaddy: Yes.
Dale Rogers: Think it will?
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Um.
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Hmm.
Ted Eaddy: Well right away I'm wondering if there's um th th uh, like with D_V_D_ players, if there are zones.
Dale Rogers: Oh yeah,
Ted Eaddy: Um
Dale Rogers: regions and
Ted Eaddy: f
Dale Rogers: stuff, yeah.
Ted Eaddy: frequencies or something
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: um
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: as well as uh characters, um different uh keypad styles and s symbols.
Kelvin Bedford: Hmm.
Dale Rogers: Yeah. Well for
Ted Eaddy: Um.
Dale Rogers: a remote control, do you think that will be I suppose
Ted Eaddy: I don't
Dale Rogers: it's
Ted Eaddy: know.
Dale Rogers: depends on how complicated our remote control is.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages, then you need more buttons.
Dale Rogers: Yeah,
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: So,
Dale Rogers: yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: possibly.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region, whereas in another it'll be different, so
Dale Rogers: What, just like
Ted Eaddy: Just
Dale Rogers: in
Ted Eaddy: a
Dale Rogers: terms
Ted Eaddy: chara just
Dale Rogers: of like
Ted Eaddy: a characteristic
Dale Rogers: the wealth of the
Ted Eaddy: of
Dale Rogers: country?
Ted Eaddy: the
Dale Rogers: Like how
Ted Eaddy: Just
Dale Rogers: much money people have to spend on things
Ted Eaddy: Or just
Dale Rogers: like?
Ted Eaddy: like, basic product podi positioning, the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London, might not be such a big hit in Greece, who knows,
Dale Rogers: Aye, I
Ted Eaddy: something
Dale Rogers: see what
Ted Eaddy: like
Dale Rogers: you
Ted Eaddy: that,
Dale Rogers: mean,
Ted Eaddy: yeah.
Dale Rogers: yeah. Marketing. Good marketing
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: thoughts. Oh gosh, I should be writing all this down. Um.
Ted Eaddy: Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here,
Dale Rogers: Mm.
Ted Eaddy: thinking, 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic,
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away, is selling twenty five Euros, is that sort of the thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda
Dale Rogers: Yeah,
Ted Eaddy: thing
Dale Rogers: yeah.
Ted Eaddy: or
Dale Rogers: Like how much does, you know, a remote control cost.
Ted Eaddy: Uh-huh.
Dale Rogers: Well twenty five Euro, I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something, isn't it?
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Or no, is it as much as that? Sixteen
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: seventeen eighteen pounds.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah, I'd say so, yeah.
Dale Rogers: Um, I dunno, I've never bought a remote control, so I don't
Ted Eaddy: No.
Dale Rogers: know how how good a remote
Ted Eaddy: Yeah,
Dale Rogers: control that would get you.
Ted Eaddy: yeah.
Dale Rogers: Um. But yeah, I suppose it has to look kind of cool
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: and gimmicky. Um right, okay. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all?
Ted Eaddy: Do
Dale Rogers: Thin
Ted Eaddy: we have any other background information on like how that compares to other
Dale Rogers: No, actually. That
Ted Eaddy: other
Dale Rogers: would be useful, though, wouldn't it, if you knew like
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Dale Rogers: what your money would get you
Kelvin Bedford: Hmm.
Dale Rogers: now.
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah, interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for Ted Eaddy is that l as you point out, I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits.
Dale Rogers: Yeah,
Ted Eaddy: It's just
Dale Rogers: yeah.
Ted Eaddy: like getting shoelaces with shoes or something.
Dale Rogers: Oh.
Ted Eaddy: It just
Dale Rogers: Five
Ted Eaddy: comes
Dale Rogers: minutes
Ted Eaddy: along.
Dale Rogers: to end of meeting. Oh, okay. We're a bit behind.
Ted Eaddy: Do you know what I mean?
Thomas Cantara: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: Like
Kelvin Bedford: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be, well the people producing television sets, maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want
Thomas Cantara: I
Ted Eaddy: a
Thomas Cantara: know
Ted Eaddy: better
Thomas Cantara: um
Ted Eaddy: one or something.
Thomas Cantara: My
Ted Eaddy: But
Thomas Cantara: parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things
Ted Eaddy: Right.
Thomas Cantara: the house.
Ted Eaddy: Right. Okay so
Thomas Cantara: how many devices control.
Ted Eaddy: Right, so in function one of the priorities might be
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: to combine as many uses
Dale Rogers: Right, so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know,
Ted Eaddy: I think so.
Dale Rogers: do your
Ted Eaddy: Yeah,
Dale Rogers: your satellite and
Ted Eaddy: yeah.
Dale Rogers: your regular telly and
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Dale Rogers: your V_C_R_ and everything?
Ted Eaddy: Well like um, maybe what we could use is a sort of like a example of a successful other piece technology is palm palm pilots. They're gone from being just like little sort of scribble boards to cameras, M_P_ three players,
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: telephones, everything, agenda. So, like, I wonder if we might add something new to the to the remote control
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: market, such as the lighting in your house, or um
Dale Rogers: Or even like, you know, notes about um what you wanna watch. Like you might put in there oh I want
Ted Eaddy: Yeah,
Dale Rogers: to watch such and such
Ted Eaddy: yeah.
Dale Rogers: and look a Oh that's a good idea.
Ted Eaddy: An
Dale Rogers: So extra functionalities.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah. Like, p personally for Ted Eaddy, at home I've I've combined the um the audio video of my television set and my D_V_D_ player and my C_D_ player. So they w all work actually function together but I have different remote controls for each of them.
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: So it's sort of ironic that that then they're in there um you know, the sound and everything it's just one system. But each one's
Dale Rogers: Hmm.
Ted Eaddy: got its own little part.
Dale Rogers: Um okay, uh I'd wel we're gonna have to wrap up pretty quickly in the next couple of minutes. Um I'll just check we've nothing else. Okay. Um so anything else anybody wants to add about what they don't like about remote controls they've used, what they would really like to be part of this new one at all?
Kelvin Bedford: And you keep losing them.
Dale Rogers: You keep
Ted Eaddy: Mm.
Dale Rogers: losing them. Okay.
Kelvin Bedford: Finding them is really
Ted Eaddy: Mm.
Kelvin Bedford: a pain, you know. I
Ted Eaddy: Mm.
Kelvin Bedford: mean it's usually quite small, or when you want
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Kelvin Bedford: it right, it slipped
Ted Eaddy: Mm-hmm.
Kelvin Bedford: behind the couch or it's
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: kicked under the table.
Dale Rogers: W
Ted Eaddy: Yeah.
Dale Rogers: You get
Kelvin Bedford: You
Dale Rogers: those
Kelvin Bedford: know.
Dale Rogers: ones where you can,
Ted Eaddy: That's just really
Dale Rogers: if
Ted Eaddy: good
Dale Rogers: you
Ted Eaddy: Kelvin Bedford
Dale Rogers: like, whistle or make a really high pitched noise they beep.
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: There I mean is that something we'd want to include, do you think?
Ted Eaddy: Uh,
Dale Rogers: Dunno.
Ted Eaddy: sure.
Dale Rogers: Okay maybe.
Ted Eaddy: I remember when the first remote control my my family had was on a cable. Actually had a cable between it and the T_V_ and big like buttons that sort of like, like on a blender or something.
Dale Rogers: My goodness.
Ted Eaddy: And um, you know, when I think about what they are now, it's better,
Dale Rogers: Still
Ted Eaddy: Maybe
Dale Rogers: feels
Ted Eaddy: we could
Dale Rogers: quite
Ted Eaddy: think
Dale Rogers: primitive.
Ted Eaddy: about how, could be more, you know, streamlined.
Dale Rogers: Maybe
Ted Eaddy: S
Dale Rogers: like a touch screen or something?
Ted Eaddy: Something like that, yeah.
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: Or whatever would be technologically reasonable.
Dale Rogers: Uh-huh, okay. Well
Ted Eaddy: 'Cause
Dale Rogers: I guess
Ted Eaddy: it could
Dale Rogers: that's
Ted Eaddy: b
Dale Rogers: up
Ted Eaddy: it
Dale Rogers: to
Ted Eaddy: could
Dale Rogers: our industrial
Ted Eaddy: it could be
Dale Rogers: designer.
Ted Eaddy: that f it could be that functionally that doesn't make it any better, but that just the appeal
Dale Rogers: It looks
Ted Eaddy: of
Dale Rogers: better.
Ted Eaddy: of not having You know, these days there's a r pe things in people's homes are becoming more and more like chic, you know.
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Ted Eaddy: Um, nicer materials and
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: might be
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: be worth exploring anyway.
Thomas Cantara: Uh.
Dale Rogers: Right, well um so just to wrap up, the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes. So that's about um about ten to twelve by my watch. Um so inbetween now and then, um as Kelvin Bedford, you're gonna be working on you know the actual working
Kelvin Bedford: Yep.
Dale Rogers: design of it so y you know what you're doing there. Um for user interface, technical functions, I guess that's you know like what we've been talking about, what it'll actually do. Um and uh marketing executive, you'll be just thinking about what it actually what, you know, what requirements it has to has to fulfil and you'll all get instructions emailed to you, I guess.
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Dale Rogers: Um. Yeah, so it's th the functional design stage is next, I guess. And uh and that's the end of the meeting. So I got
Ted Eaddy: Um.
Dale Rogers: that little message a lot sooner than I thought I would, so
Ted Eaddy: Before we wrap up, just to make sure we're all on the same page here,
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: um, do we We were given sort of an example of a coffee machine or something,
Dale Rogers: Uh-huh,
Ted Eaddy: right?
Dale Rogers: yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: Well, um are we at ma right now on the assumption that our television remote control may have features which go beyond the television? Or are we keeping
Dale Rogers: Th
Ted Eaddy: sort of like a a design commitment to television features?
Dale Rogers: Okay,
Ted Eaddy: I
Dale Rogers: well
Ted Eaddy: I don't know.
Dale Rogers: just very quickly 'cause this we're supposed to finish now.
Ted Eaddy: Yep.
Dale Rogers: Um I guess
Ted Eaddy: Yeah, sure.
Dale Rogers: that's up to us, I mean you probably want some kind of unique selling point of it,
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Dale Rogers: so um,
Kelvin Bedford: I
Dale Rogers: you
Kelvin Bedford: think
Dale Rogers: know
Kelvin Bedford: one factor would be production cost.
Ted Eaddy: Okay, yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: Because
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: there's a cap there, so um
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Kelvin Bedford: depends on how much you can cram into that price.
Dale Rogers: Mm-hmm.
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Kelvin Bedford: Um.
Dale Rogers: Yeah.
Kelvin Bedford: I think that that's the main factor.
Dale Rogers: Okay.
Ted Eaddy: Okay.
Dale Rogers: Right, okay, we'll that's that's the end of the meeting, then.
Ted Eaddy: Alright.
Dale Rogers: Um. So, uh thank you all for coming.
Kelvin Bedford: Cool. | Dale Rogers introduced the upcoming project to the team members and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed what they liked about the animal. Dale Rogers talked about the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in making the remote. | 1 | amisum | test |
Elmer Gates: Excellent. So um I sent you the agenda it, was on the in the project documents. I don't know if you got a chance to just have a look at it. Anyway, it's the meeting's gonna follow more or less the same structure as last time, so we'll go round each of you in turn and you can give your presentations on what you've been up to. Um and at the end of that we need to discuss what you've come with, so that we can make on the key remote control concepts, so that's we need to know about the components' properties, materials, the user interface and any trends that Joseph Stewart has been watching.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: Okay. Um, do you wanna start again?
Michael Powers: Okay.
Elmer Gates: Let Joseph Stewart we've
Michael Powers: Right
Elmer Gates: got forty
Michael Powers: s
Elmer Gates: minutes.
Michael Powers: so I haven't made a PowerPoint
Elmer Gates: You haven't
Michael Powers: presentation,
Elmer Gates: made a PowerPoint, okay.
Michael Powers: yeah, I I thought I'll use the whiteboard instead.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Um mm,
Elmer Gates: Let's hope the pen holds out.
Michael Powers: okay, so basically I'll start off by uh I thought I'll use the whiteboard because we have so many different options and what we can do is that we can start um uh rubbing off the options that we do not require
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: and putting in the options that uh are m or highlighting or underlining them or something like that. Okay, I'll start again with a brief introduction to connect that anyway
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: brief introduction to the insides of a remote control and uh then we can probably uh discuss the various components. Yeah. Okay, so w what you see here is so this is the outside of the remote, right?
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: If you open it, you have a circuit board here, right, and this is the chip that I was talking about last time. This basically sends information to a tr uh transistor here, which then uh sends the information to an L_E_D_ device here.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: If you flip the printed circuit board, and this is th the most important point here, uh everything else is kind of Okay, so if you flip the circuit board, this is what it looks like. So you see for example a particular button attaches to a particular place on the P_C_B_
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: and uh on pressing this button I a circuit completes, the information goes to the chip, which is somewhere here and the chip that tra then translates the code into an infra infrared radiation, which goes goes out through there. So uh the important point that I read over the website was uh that the configurations of these printed circuit circuit boards uh are quite cheap to make, you can
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: ge get them printed as you want to, so w we can have a configuration um irrespective of the cost, the way we want to have.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Right? So that's the important point here, so these are the different options that we have. Okay. So the batteries, I'll start with the battery,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: right? So they can be simple which is like uh the normal batteries in uh our uh the cells, yeah?
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Uh thes these are the kind different kind of batteries that the company makes, right? So. And dynamos. Um
Joseph Stewart: Does that mean like a wind-up one?
Michael Powers: yeah, yeah. So uh
Joseph Stewart: A wind-up remote.
Michael Powers: I don't know if even if you want to consider this, but these are the different things that the company makes, so
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Michael Powers: th they'll they'll since uh they'll come internally from the company, they'll be eas uh cheaper, uh all these options.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: So the third one is uh the kinetic energy ones.
Joseph Stewart: You could make the hand dynamo into an exercise bike, and then people could exercise whilst watching T_V_.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: And charging their remote,
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: yeah.
Joseph Stewart: and stop worrying about the whole R_S_I_ from the remote thing, 'cause
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: that's just
Michael Powers: it's a good option.
Dong Lee: So what was what was
Michael Powers: The
Dong Lee: this k
Michael Powers: the kinetic energy one is uh that e uh uh they are usually modern watches,
Dong Lee: Okay.
Michael Powers: since our
Elmer Gates: Uh
Michael Powers: hand
Elmer Gates: yeah.
Michael Powers: keeps moving, it keeps the watch ticking. But
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: I dunno i if it is a good idea for a remote control,
Elmer Gates: For a remote,
Michael Powers: because
Elmer Gates: 'cause you
Michael Powers: it'll just lie there for a
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: long while sometimes. But
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: as soon as you pick it up it moves and then again it uh re recharges or something.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: And the fourth option is the solar cells,
Joseph Stewart: Yay.
Michael Powers: which are also made by the company. Environment friendly. Okay um so I'll list things and then we can come back and discuss
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: what what we think from uh everybody's perspective. There are different cases that can be provided. They can be basically the shape of the cases, they can be flat,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: they can be curved with uh one-sided curved and one side flat, and they can be curved with on both the sides.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: These are the three options, right? Um
Dong Lee: Um you mean this would be like the the overall shape of the remote control, yeah,
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Dong Lee: mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: would it be flat on both the
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Michael Powers: sides,
Dong Lee: mm-hmm,
Michael Powers: would be curved
Dong Lee: mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: from one side, or
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: whatever
Dong Lee: mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: uh there were different kind of supplements available, um like it can be in plastic, rubber, wood, or
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: titanium,
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Michael Powers: right?
Joseph Stewart: Did you say
Michael Powers: Wo
Joseph Stewart: wool?
Elmer Gates: Wood,
Michael Powers: wo wood.
Elmer Gates: wood.
Joseph Stewart: Wood.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: Oh right.
Elmer Gates: A fluffy
Michael Powers: Not wool.
Elmer Gates: remote.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, you'll understand why when we get to my presenta.
Michael Powers: Oh really? Okay.
Elmer Gates: Huh.
Michael Powers: Um the so uh we can use even um a certain titanium is also used uh in the company to make uh uh some space design equipment, so it's kind of um uh it'll be probably nicer to use, because it relates to the overall image of the company, but uh it cannot be used on a double curved surface. If we choose this, we cannot use titanium.
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Michael Powers: For for these two we can use titanium, wood, rubber, or plastic.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Yeah? Uh okay, the interface options now. So we can have push-buttons, like most remotes do and our company is an expert in making push-buttons. Ooh. Uh we can have scroll wheels like the ones on um
Joseph Stewart: Sony.
Michael Powers: uh mouse pointers
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: uh uh
Joseph Stewart: Sony Ericsson mobile phones has it.
Michael Powers: Yeah, yeah, something like that.
Joseph Stewart: Mm.
Michael Powers: So, and they have they can even have an an integrated uh push-button inside the scrolling
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Michael Powers: thing. The scroll plus push. So this is something that has been recently developed by the company, um in the last decade, so not too recent. And L_C_D_s, we can have L_C_D_s.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: The various electronic options are um uh so th this concerns firs first of all the the chips I I showed you at uh so there's there's a chip behind this one, right? The P_C_B_ is uh inexpensive, so we can put put in uh whatever we want, but
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: the various integrated circuit options are, we have either a simple one or a regular or advanced. And uh the price goes up
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: as we go down, obviously. Um okay, so the good thing about uh wh wh why why we would want to use advanced u why we might want to use advanced is that L_C_D_s can only come with the advanced chip.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Um the we need regular or advanced for uh scroll wheels. Right? Um and the chip basically includes the infra infrared sender.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Yeah. Uh besides this in electr under electronics uh also the company has started making a sample sender, which is did not explained what i what it was, but I'm guessing that uh so they have a sample sender and a sample speaker. So I'm guessing that uh the sample speaker is probably something like um uh you know, as soon as you press a button, it it mm uh give gives you feedback, one five or whatever. Yeah,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: on. Um and uh I dunno whether sample sender sender has to do something with voice recognition or not, but anyway.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: So, these are the different options that we have. Okay, so th that's that's basically now now uh I think that uh we can integrate um uh you know, uh the user interface uh and uh the marketing things in that,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: keep uh taking out things from this and uh
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: underlining things that are important,
Elmer Gates: Excellent.
Michael Powers: yeah.
Elmer Gates: Do you wanna
Dong Lee: Okay.
Elmer Gates: stay somewhere near the board, so that if we need to
Michael Powers: Yeah, yeah, sure.
Elmer Gates: you can sit down, but
Michael Powers: Sure.
Elmer Gates: just
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: we might need you to leap up. What
Dong Lee: Okay.
Elmer Gates: are you, PowerPoint, or
Dong Lee: Um I have some PowerPoint, yeah.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Dong Lee: Oh.
Elmer Gates: Do you
Dong Lee: 'Kay.
Elmer Gates: think these pens can give you cancer of the hand? Some sort of radiation?
Joseph Stewart: No it's got its little camera in there
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: plug, it in.
Dong Lee: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: 'S a
Michael Powers: Yeah, it should should do it. Yeah.
Elmer Gates: Right, interface concept.
Dong Lee: Okay. Um to be honest, I mentioned some some of the things which which could fit on the on the this talk um this time, I I mentioned them already in the previous talk.
Elmer Gates: That's fine.
Dong Lee: So um yeah, this time um I might not have them on the slides but I I can just
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: mention them aw again. Okay. So um I thought um I would also include the definition of user interface um so it's the aspects of a of of a computer system or programme which can be seen uh by the user um and and which uh the mechanisms that the user uses to control its operation and input data. So this would p includes things like shape and size and buttons and um voice recognition as well, and colour,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: and so on. Um um the method I employed this time was a again having a look to related products and mainly on the internet and then um analyse them uh from the point of view of user fen friendliness and also um whether their appearance was was pleasant. Um and then um this uh this um this can help us to decide which features we want to incorporate
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: in our product. So some findings um um. So in in the case of many user interfaces, they're just so full of buttons that it's actually uh hard to find the ones you you really um want to use and um and it's just confusing, it takes y know time to learn. Um okay, and I thought I would just quickly show some of them that I found. Okay, some of them are here. Um well the picture is not very clear, but as you can see, there are actu oi, oh oh oh, sorry for that. 'S go back.
Michael Powers: That's
Dong Lee: Ah,
Michael Powers: nice one.
Dong Lee: no, please. Okay, so yeah, they're quite big and have many many buttons. Actually of the of all these I personally p prefer this one, because it's it's the smallest and and with with least uh with the smallest number of buttons as well. And I would say even the appearance of some of them is kind of
Joseph Stewart: Ugly.
Dong Lee: not so nice.
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Dong Lee: Um okay. So let's carry on with this. Um So uh um o other findings um some new things um used, uh some of them were mentioned already by our Technical um Designer uh. Our own company has developed a new in user interface uh wait, no this is not the one. Okay, there is a we can uh include voice recognition and um it allows i it's possible to record eighty different voice samples
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: on it.
Michael Powers: Mm.
Dong Lee: Uh so uh this uh this one was already mentioned uh the L_C_
Elmer Gates: It's
Dong Lee: display.
Elmer Gates: yeah.
Dong Lee: Um s another new development is a scroll button, which was also th also already mentioned. And uh our own manufacturing division ha has uh designed a new um uh programmable speech uh mm sorry uh speaker unit I guess it's it should be.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Dong Lee: Um and this means that um once uh uh it it it comes together with a voice recognition, but it's once once the mm um gadget uh recognises uh the voice of the speaker, there can be a um pre-programmed answer, for example, you can pick up the remote control and say something to it like hello and it says
Elmer Gates: Uh-huh,
Dong Lee: some hello and
Elmer Gates: hi
Dong Lee: your name or whatever.
Elmer Gates: yeah.
Dong Lee: So
Michael Powers: Mm.
Dong Lee: I mean this is also one of the n dev new developments which we might consider if we wanted to
Michael Powers: Uh
Dong Lee: include.
Michael Powers: sorry, uh can you go back for a second? Um uh are you sure wha what this means, a spinning wheel with the L_C_ display? Uh oh
Elmer Gates: It's like the like you said, no? The scroll scroll
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Michael Powers: yeah
Joseph Stewart: you
Dong Lee: No
Joseph Stewart: can't
Elmer Gates: wheel.
Michael Powers: are
Dong Lee: no,
Michael Powers: th
Dong Lee: the scroll button is a different thing. I I have a picture if you just a moment, I'll I'll show you. I wasn't completely sure myself, but I think it's just like um it's it's a wheel, it's like not separate buttons. Look,
Michael Powers: Oh okay,
Dong Lee: this one here.
Joseph Stewart: Oh,
Michael Powers: the iPod
Joseph Stewart: it's like
Dong Lee: But
Joseph Stewart: the
Michael Powers: thing,
Dong Lee: I'm
Joseph Stewart: iPod.
Michael Powers: yeah.
Dong Lee: I'm not really sure whether whether you can really turn it round,
Joseph Stewart: G yeah,
Dong Lee: it's
Joseph Stewart: no,
Dong Lee: like you
Joseph Stewart: you
Dong Lee: press
Joseph Stewart: can.
Dong Lee: this
Michael Powers: Uh
Dong Lee: or
Michael Powers: it's
Dong Lee: this
Michael Powers: the
Joseph Stewart: It's
Michael Powers: iPod
Dong Lee: or
Joseph Stewart: like
Michael Powers: uh kind of uh
Joseph Stewart: it's like where you you know how you have your your mouse, and
Elmer Gates: Uh-huh.
Joseph Stewart: y you go round and i it's kind
Michael Powers: Alright,
Joseph Stewart: of like that and you
Michael Powers: right.
Joseph Stewart: spin round and it
Michael Powers: Okay, okay.
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Michael Powers: So
Joseph Stewart: It
Michael Powers: instead
Joseph Stewart: is
Michael Powers: of going down you just spin
Joseph Stewart: You
Michael Powers: yeah,
Joseph Stewart: just
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: go round and it is a bit
Michael Powers: yeah.
Joseph Stewart: weird at first, but it's actually very like fast.
Michael Powers: Uh-huh.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: I like the the wheels that click on the side you you get 'em much slower, so it's quite good if you like searching quite a lot of stuff.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Right.
Dong Lee: Uh-huh.
Joseph Stewart: Do you know, if you're lookin if you're th scrolling through the A_ to Z_ of your music and you're looking for something at T_,
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: then it's a lot faster than the wheel, but you've got a lot less control over it.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Right. So
Dong Lee: Mm.
Michael Powers: maybe I should include that here as well, L_C_D_s
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: um
Dong Lee: Uh
Michael Powers: plus spinning.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Dong Lee: Okay, and the personal preferences are pretty much the same as as as last time.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: It it has to be small, simple. Okay, we decided to include voice recognition, so to have the standard uh major buttons like on, off, um ch the channels and and then um volume and then the rest would be a menu on the screen. Um and I I also thought uh if we want to keep it small and nice um and actually I I quite like the idea of a scroll a scrolling button, I thought it could be for for voice like, I dunno, it mm like on a um i like it used to be on Walkmans or something. There is uh I think there is no reason why we couldn't use something like this for for the remote control.
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm. Excellent. Okay, straight to trends, and then we can discuss it
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: all at once.
Joseph Stewart: Okay, I've put the copy of the presentation in um the
Elmer Gates: The project documents.
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Elmer Gates: Excellent. If you two could both do that
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: as well, in case we need to refer to it.
Joseph Stewart: Cool.
Elmer Gates: Here it comes.
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: Fabulous. Okay, cool. Um so what I did was to search the internet to come up with market trends and you know what users are gonna be wanting in the the near future.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: Okay. Right. Now, the first aspect is apparently twice as important as the second aspect, which is twice as important as the third a aspect.
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: So, I mean the the easy to use thing is fairly low down on
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: the which I think given the target group is what you would expect, really.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: Um, you know, people want something new, something technologically innovative and different, so the whole idea with the L_C_D_s and the spinning and the colours and the voice recognition is quite like, quite the thing to go for.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: And um, yeah it wants to look fancy, fancy look and feel.
Michael Powers: So
Joseph Stewart: So
Michael Powers: um uh maybe uh as you're discussing things, is it okay if we
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: just
Elmer Gates: yeah,
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: sure.
Michael Powers: keep
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Michael Powers: highlighting things
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Michael Powers: here?
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Right. So mm
Elmer Gates: That's
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: over on the interface,
Michael Powers: so it
Elmer Gates: if if
Michael Powers: yeah,
Elmer Gates: you could put
Michael Powers: so probably voice recognition is is kind of
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: important, right? Um
Elmer Gates: And maybe the L_C_D_
Michael Powers: and
Elmer Gates: and spinning
Michael Powers: an yeah.
Elmer Gates: so
Michael Powers: Okay,
Elmer Gates: that
Michael Powers: I
Elmer Gates: means
Michael Powers: I
Elmer Gates: we
Michael Powers: have
Elmer Gates: need
Michael Powers: a
Elmer Gates: an
Michael Powers: point
Elmer Gates: advanced
Michael Powers: about L_C_D_,
Elmer Gates: thing.
Michael Powers: I dunno if it is the right point to take it up. W uh L_C_D_s are basically for feedback, right, to
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: the user who's pressing
Joseph Stewart: Mm.
Michael Powers: buttons, and the feedback can come through television itself, so do we need an L_C_D_ on the remote?
Joseph Stewart: Depends how fast your television runs, really, don't don't you think? I mean we've got one of those um Telewest boxes and
Michael Powers: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: you put the number in the remote and then you wait and then it goes to the T_V_ and then you wait, and then it comes, so i it actually takes quite a long time.
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: And
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: if you get the number in wrong, then it's a bit of a pain, so I think, you know, a screen on the remote would probably cut down your time on that. But like remotes do tend to get f thrown about a bit.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: It it is also
Joseph Stewart: You know?
Elmer Gates: quite nice though to to have something here so you don't interrupt the picture on the screen, so if you're
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: watching something
Michael Powers: That's true,
Joseph Stewart: And
Michael Powers: yeah,
Joseph Stewart: i
Michael Powers: that's
Joseph Stewart: it would
Michael Powers: also
Joseph Stewart: be like I mean if you could make it integrate with the T_V_ then it could come up with new information about what's on, and you could just see that on the remote rather
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: than
Elmer Gates: Rather than having to interrupt your
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: viewing pleasure.
Joseph Stewart: But
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: um I think maybe a way to do it would be a similar way to how you have your mobile phone, you know, like you have the slidey ones and you have the flippy ones and then the screen's protected so it doesn't
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: actually get scratched.
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: So you can have like what looks like a normal remote control, you know or
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: like a minimalist remote control. So you got your buttons one to nine, your on and off
Michael Powers: Mm right.
Joseph Stewart: and your volume on that and then
Elmer Gates: And
Joseph Stewart: if
Elmer Gates: then
Joseph Stewart: you
Elmer Gates: you
Joseph Stewart: want
Elmer Gates: can
Joseph Stewart: to
Elmer Gates: flip
Joseph Stewart: mess about
Elmer Gates: it open.
Joseph Stewart: with it, you flip it open and, yeah.
Michael Powers: Okay. So now we seem to have a consensus that L_C_D_s are definitely the way to go
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: because
Elmer Gates: I think
Michael Powers: of
Elmer Gates: so.
Michael Powers: style and
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, so that kind of decides your whole chip thing.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: You you agree? Maarika,
Dong Lee: Yep, yeah.
Michael Powers: yeah? Yeah.
Elmer Gates: Right.
Michael Powers: So
Joseph Stewart: Okay?
Michael Powers: L_C_D_s, yeah, definitely. Go on.
Joseph Stewart: Cool. Okay, apparently, fruit and vegetables will be providing inspiration. Sorry, I discovered clip art. Um so these will be an important feature for clothes, shoes and furniture. So I mean, I'm taking this to mean, you know, curviness. Do you know? 'Cause you don't tend to get flat vegetables.
Elmer Gates: Yeah, and
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: possibly
Joseph Stewart: You know?
Elmer Gates: even uneven, like
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: not
Joseph Stewart: bit of asymmetry
Elmer Gates: not symmet yeah.
Joseph Stewart: and stuff. But that would be a good way to to get in the whole um R_S_I_ issue in there,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: because
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: I mean if you think most people use the remote control with their right hand ha right hands so you wanna you curve it so that it's suitable for use
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: with the right hand.
Michael Powers: Mm.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: Um yeah, I'm not quite sure about the relevance of material will be spongy. Um
Elmer Gates: Something a bit squishy and
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, but I mean
Michael Powers: Yeah, we
Dong Lee: So
Joseph Stewart: y
Michael Powers: we
Dong Lee: it
Joseph Stewart: you
Michael Powers: have
Dong Lee: could
Joseph Stewart: have
Dong Lee: be
Joseph Stewart: to
Dong Lee: like a rubbery
Michael Powers: we have rubber,
Dong Lee: yeah, uh-huh.
Michael Powers: but there is a problem that I forgot to discuss with the um with using
Joseph Stewart: Well I suppose you wouldn't get a remote uh an electric shock off your remote control if it was made of rubber.
Elmer Gates: Yeah, and it'd help if you drop it, it protects it as well.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, yeah.
Elmer Gates: To some degree.
Michael Powers: So if if we use uh latex cases, they won't allow us to use solar cells, as an energy source that is the constraint,
Elmer Gates: Uh-huh.
Michael Powers: so um we could use titanium, wood or plastic uh
Elmer Gates: Or if
Michael Powers: or
Elmer Gates: we want to use the
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: the latex, then we have to go with one of the other um
Joseph Stewart: If
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: it's
Michael Powers: w
Joseph Stewart: made
Elmer Gates: power
Joseph Stewart: of
Michael Powers: energy
Joseph Stewart: rubber
Elmer Gates: things.
Joseph Stewart: you
Michael Powers: source.
Joseph Stewart: could get the kinetic energy fairly easily there, you
Elmer Gates: From
Joseph Stewart: could just
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: from
Joseph Stewart: bounce
Michael Powers: tap it
Joseph Stewart: it
Elmer Gates: bouncing
Michael Powers: on
Joseph Stewart: up
Michael Powers: the desk,
Joseph Stewart: and down.
Elmer Gates: it.
Michael Powers: yeah.
Elmer Gates: You can have it as like a little ball to bounce, that
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: flips open.
Joseph Stewart: Um
Michael Powers: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: so yeah, um
Michael Powers: So probably
Joseph Stewart: okay.
Michael Powers: double curved surface is the way to go, yeah,
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: Mm yeah.
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Michael Powers: Or or curved at one end and flat on the top, because I I'm not sure if it is flat on both both the sides, then ho how much easy would it be to reach for buttons, etcetera. Um
Joseph Stewart: You have to have a certain element of flatness, I think.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: It it depends on the whole ergonomics of it, you know, put your hands so y it's the least
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: movement
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: basically.
Michael Powers: singe
Elmer Gates: Uh-huh.
Michael Powers: single side curved or double side curved does not say too much, does it? It
Joseph Stewart: No, I
Michael Powers: uh
Joseph Stewart: d I don't think it makes a lot of difference. I I have one of those s slidey phones and I mean the back is essentially straight,
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: but it's curvy,
Michael Powers: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: so. Besides,
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: Uh
Elmer Gates: 'cause
Joseph Stewart: you have
Elmer Gates: the
Joseph Stewart: four sides
Michael Powers: I think
Joseph Stewart: to a
Michael Powers: uh
Joseph Stewart: thing, so I mean
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: does curved one side mean one side is straight
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: and, you know curved two sides means the whole thing is just a big curvy p thing?
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: Dunno.
Michael Powers: Di now did it say anywhere in your research material about this sliding stuff uh because um according to the information that I have, I think uh the onl only options that we have with the case is are these three.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Uh eith either we have uh a flat surfaced uh case or a curved surfaced case. It does
Elmer Gates: Nothing
Michael Powers: not say anything
Elmer Gates: to
Michael Powers: about uh
Elmer Gates: open
Michael Powers: whether
Elmer Gates: them.
Michael Powers: technically, you know, this this stuff is available at all.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah. Uh it's it's more about the protecting the L_C_D_, which I
Michael Powers: Right,
Joseph Stewart: think is where it came
Michael Powers: yeah,
Joseph Stewart: from.
Michael Powers: yeah.
Joseph Stewart: But no, my research didn't tell Joseph Stewart anything, which is why we have all the pictures, 'cause I had nothing better to
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: do with my time.
Michael Powers: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: Okay, cool.
Elmer Gates: Anything else? What've we got?
Joseph Stewart: Uh combine style with a level of functionality, um beauty and practicality and a thing of beauty and p function.
Elmer Gates: Okay,
Michael Powers: Cool, thanks.
Joseph Stewart: Okay?
Elmer Gates: so.
Dong Lee: Thanks
Elmer Gates: Looking at what we've got, we we want an L_C_D_ display with a spinning
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: wheel.
Michael Powers: Let's let's try to r rub off
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: things
Elmer Gates: rub off
Michael Powers: and
Elmer Gates: some
Michael Powers: yeah,
Elmer Gates: of those.
Michael Powers: so um hand dynamos are definitely out, right? You
Dong Lee: Yeah
Michael Powers: you
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: got a wind
Dong Lee: uh-hum
Michael Powers: dynamo,
Elmer Gates: it's
Dong Lee: yeah.
Elmer Gates: not
Michael Powers: yeah.
Elmer Gates: that's not streamlined and sexy, having
Michael Powers: Okay.
Elmer Gates: a having a wind
Michael Powers: Um
Elmer Gates: up.
Michael Powers: kinetic energy does seem to have some kind of uh
Elmer Gates: I think
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: tha
Michael Powers: appeal, but uh
Joseph Stewart: It's
Michael Powers: it's
Joseph Stewart: about the practicality of it really, isn't
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: it? You know?
Michael Powers: As
Joseph Stewart: I mean
Michael Powers: against
Joseph Stewart: if
Michael Powers: a watch, which constantly keeps moving, this this thing will have to be tapped every time, which which might be very frustrating for the user.
Elmer Gates: Depends how much how much movement
Michael Powers: Kinetic energy
Elmer Gates: it really
Michael Powers: it
Elmer Gates: needs.
Michael Powers: needs
Elmer Gates: Pr
Michael Powers: I don't have too
Elmer Gates: presumably
Michael Powers: much technical information
Elmer Gates: if they're suggesting
Michael Powers: on that, yeah,
Elmer Gates: it, then we
Michael Powers: right.
Elmer Gates: could use it.
Michael Powers: Okay, let's keep it
Elmer Gates: I'd
Michael Powers: option
Elmer Gates: I'd keep
Michael Powers: uh keep
Elmer Gates: it
Michael Powers: an
Elmer Gates: on.
Michael Powers: option, yeah. Um the flat co completely flat case is definitely out,
Elmer Gates: We
Michael Powers: right?
Elmer Gates: don't want
Michael Powers: It
Dong Lee: Yeah
Elmer Gates: that
Michael Powers: has
Elmer Gates: it's
Michael Powers: to
Dong Lee: it's
Elmer Gates: no
Michael Powers: be at
Elmer Gates: it's
Michael Powers: least
Dong Lee: yeah.
Elmer Gates: not
Michael Powers: curved from
Elmer Gates: not
Michael Powers: one
Elmer Gates: vegetable.
Michael Powers: side, yeah. Um okay, we still have all all the options. Wood, do you think wood
Dong Lee: N
Michael Powers: will
Dong Lee: wood
Michael Powers: be a good
Dong Lee: is
Michael Powers: idea?
Dong Lee: I can't n how do you uh I mean you can't keep it really small
Michael Powers: Mm.
Dong Lee: uh you can't make it like thin and
Michael Powers: Right.
Dong Lee: The
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Dong Lee: wood
Joseph Stewart: I
Dong Lee: thing.
Joseph Stewart: can't
Dong Lee: Because
Joseph Stewart: imagine
Dong Lee: you need to
Joseph Stewart: a m
Dong Lee: you
Joseph Stewart: wooden
Dong Lee: n you need
Joseph Stewart: remote
Dong Lee: to put all
Joseph Stewart: control.
Dong Lee: the technology in, so I mean if the case you add the case and
Michael Powers: Yeah if
Dong Lee: it
Michael Powers: if
Dong Lee: it
Michael Powers: it is
Dong Lee: becomes
Michael Powers: really
Dong Lee: a bit
Michael Powers: thin
Dong Lee: bulky wi mm-mm yeah.
Michael Powers: if it
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Michael Powers: is really thin it it's likely to break, it's
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Michael Powers: it's much
Dong Lee: yeah.
Michael Powers: more
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: and given that we're we're looking at more spongy material preferences, I ha would think maybe
Dong Lee: U yeah
Elmer Gates: rubber
Dong Lee: wood is
Elmer Gates: or
Dong Lee: not
Elmer Gates: plastic
Dong Lee: really
Elmer Gates: is more
Michael Powers: Right.
Dong Lee: yeah.
Joseph Stewart: Well it's not very cleanable either,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: That's
Joseph Stewart: do you
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: know.
Michael Powers: true.
Joseph Stewart: It's it's not a practical I mean it's it's alright for a table, but for a remote control, you know.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: And splinters and stuff
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: and
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: okay wood
Joseph Stewart: It
Michael Powers: is
Joseph Stewart: just
Michael Powers: out.
Joseph Stewart: m doesn't make any sense, I think is
Michael Powers: Right.
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: the thing
Dong Lee: yeah,
Joseph Stewart: with wood.
Dong Lee: in the case of remote control not really.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Okay, now for the really interesting stuff, the interface.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Right, so uh the the push-buttons is is our expertise uh in the industry, but uh it seems to be out of trend, you know, nobody seems
Joseph Stewart: You have
Michael Powers: to
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: to
Dong Lee: but
Michael Powers: be
Joseph Stewart: have some push-buttons,
Dong Lee: you
Joseph Stewart: don't
Dong Lee: um I think
Joseph Stewart: you?
Dong Lee: for for the channel numb uh channel numbers you still need them,
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Dong Lee: wouldn't you?
Joseph Stewart: G yeah,
Michael Powers: Mm
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Michael Powers: right.
Dong Lee: so for
Michael Powers: Oh,
Dong Lee: channel
Michael Powers: if
Dong Lee: numbers
Michael Powers: if
Dong Lee: but
Michael Powers: we have L_C_D_ displays, that opens up a whole world, you know, if you have an L_C_D_ display, then mm you can select
Dong Lee: But I
Michael Powers: almost
Dong Lee: th
Michael Powers: everything on
Dong Lee: yeah
Michael Powers: the L_C_D_
Dong Lee: but
Michael Powers: display.
Dong Lee: I think the L_C_D_
Elmer Gates: Just for
Dong Lee: display
Elmer Gates: fast
Dong Lee: is kind of yeah, it's faster with a m yeah and w if we dis and when we s um discussed that we might like this flipping open thing, then
Michael Powers: Right.
Dong Lee: I mean
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Dong Lee: y you can use it as a normal remote control,
Michael Powers: Okay.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Dong Lee: but if you do want to use L_C_D_, then you flip it open, but it's it it's
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Dong Lee: more time-consuming.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: I think this is going back to the the graph at the beginning that I made, where, you know, the buttons that people use all the time, you want buttons for them
Michael Powers: Mm right.
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: and everything
Elmer Gates: And it
Joseph Stewart: else
Elmer Gates: yeah
Joseph Stewart: menu-driven.
Elmer Gates: L_ L_C_D_.
Michael Powers: So uh in in the buttons we have for the channels also we have options. Do you do we enumerate everything from zero to nine? Or do we have just uh channel plus, channel minus, just
Dong Lee: No,
Michael Powers: to
Dong Lee: no,
Michael Powers: just to scroll?
Dong Lee: I mean mm we we definitely need the the numbers, because
Michael Powers: The numbers.
Dong Lee: it's uh
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Dong Lee: otherwise people don't want to flip through all the channels.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: Do we
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: need
Dong Lee: Um
Elmer Gates: them on as buttons or
Michael Powers: Or
Elmer Gates: do we need them as L_C_D_?
Michael Powers: on the L_C_D_ we can, you
Joseph Stewart: G yeah,
Michael Powers: know
Dong Lee: Yeah, I would say
Joseph Stewart: I would think
Dong Lee: buttons,
Joseph Stewart: buttons, yeah.
Dong Lee: because
Elmer Gates: Buttons.
Dong Lee: it's yeah.
Joseph Stewart: It's
Michael Powers: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: it's the
Dong Lee: I
Joseph Stewart: I think
Michael Powers: So
Joseph Stewart: the thing is, so if
Michael Powers: mm
Joseph Stewart: someone just wants to turn on their T_V_
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: and put on a channel, then
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: it should be easier to
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: use than any other remote, and then if someone wants to, you know, change the contrast on their T_V_ and
Michael Powers: Alright.
Joseph Stewart: they should be able to do that and it should be accessible, but,
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: you know, I mean most of the time I mean there's a limit to how much the biggest techno geek can spend fiddling with the T_V_,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: Right.
Joseph Stewart: I think is the the the issue there.
Michael Powers: Okay, so buttons definitely in but oh shall we uh try to draw a prec um
Elmer Gates: I think that's what you guys are gonna do next,
Michael Powers: Uh okay.
Elmer Gates: so if we put down the key
Michael Powers: Okay,
Elmer Gates: um
Michael Powers: okay,
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Michael Powers: so the
Elmer Gates: things
Michael Powers: components. Right,
Elmer Gates: that
Michael Powers: so
Elmer Gates: we want.
Michael Powers: uh what about the the scrolling uh?
Dong Lee: Yeah but n I I'm not completely um completely clear uh I yeah, about the spinning wheel. So I think it it doesn't make sense to have both like a scrolling
Joseph Stewart: E
Dong Lee: and spinning
Joseph Stewart: either
Dong Lee: thing, it's
Joseph Stewart: or
Dong Lee: uh you can al include everything in the spinning if you
Elmer Gates: Just spinning
Joseph Stewart: G
Dong Lee: yeah,
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Elmer Gates: and not scrolling,
Dong Lee: yeah,
Elmer Gates: I would say.
Dong Lee: in
Joseph Stewart: I
Dong Lee: that
Joseph Stewart: would
Dong Lee: case.
Joseph Stewart: say the s the s the spinning goes at a high speed to th to
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: the scrolling wheel, so you have to decide whether you you know, you want to be going so fast or not. But I mean the the thing with this whole if y you're planning on making it out of rubber, on the basis that it's spongy,
Elmer Gates: Hmm.
Joseph Stewart: then I'm not sure how well a scrolling wheel would work.
Michael Powers: Mm um
Elmer Gates: But if you've got a if
Dong Lee: Ah, but I mean you can
Elmer Gates: if you've got a flipped thing, effectively it's something that's curved on one side and flat on the other side, but you folded
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: it in
Joseph Stewart: but
Elmer Gates: half.
Joseph Stewart: y your spinning wheel tends
Elmer Gates: Th
Joseph Stewart: to go to one side.
Elmer Gates: that would be on one side, uh-huh.
Michael Powers: I'm not sure it'll be a good idea to construct the whole thing out of rubber.
Dong Lee: Yeah, I
Michael Powers: Uh
Dong Lee: um
Elmer Gates: No,
Dong Lee: I think
Michael Powers: i it
Dong Lee: so too,
Elmer Gates: I
Dong Lee: I
Elmer Gates: think
Dong Lee: mean
Elmer Gates: it's
Dong Lee: the
Elmer Gates: just
Dong Lee: case
Elmer Gates: the casing
Dong Lee: would be yeah
Joseph Stewart: You want
Elmer Gates: rubber
Dong Lee: the case
Joseph Stewart: an
Elmer Gates: on
Joseph Stewart: outside
Dong Lee: would
Elmer Gates: the
Dong Lee: be
Elmer Gates: outside.
Dong Lee: rubber
Joseph Stewart: of rubber
Dong Lee: and the
Joseph Stewart: and then
Dong Lee: the buttons,
Joseph Stewart: open it up
Michael Powers: Or
Joseph Stewart: and
Michael Powers: or at
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: the corners,
Dong Lee: rubber buttons,
Michael Powers: edges,
Dong Lee: but then
Michael Powers: just the edges covered by rubber or something
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: like that. Everything else in plastic
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Michael Powers: or even titanium if we want to use it.
Joseph Stewart: Or maybe like interchangeable cases.
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: 'Cause I know like we're going back to iPods again n the whole spinning wheel, but I have like a you know, obviously my iPod's not made of rubber, but then I have a little rubber case that goes over the top of it and
Michael Powers: Right,
Joseph Stewart: I can
Elmer Gates: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: change the colour,
Michael Powers: right.
Joseph Stewart: theoretically, to match my outfit.
Michael Powers: Right, okay, so so that gives us a more trendy look as well. Um
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, I think the spinning wheel is definitely very now.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: and uh we're going more for the trends than for the usability anyway,
Elmer Gates: That's right,
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: that's what
Michael Powers: right?
Elmer Gates: they're after.
Michael Powers: So I'll rub that out. And uh colours can be provided with the case rather than Um
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: but we still need to te think about the colour of our remote as such, you know, just keep
Dong Lee: Yeah
Michael Powers: it black,
Dong Lee: I think
Michael Powers: or
Dong Lee: we um it was a a requirement that we use our um th the colours of our company, so would it be like yellow, grey and black or something, or
Elmer Gates: I guess.
Joseph Stewart: That doesn't fit in
Dong Lee: Yeah, does
Joseph Stewart: with the whole vegetable theme though.
Elmer Gates: Bananas.
Dong Lee: Yeah. Banana's yellow, yeah,
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Dong Lee: definitely.
Joseph Stewart: but I mean do you think we could incorporate the colours of the company into the buttons and then make the colour of the main remote the colour like vegetable colours, do you know? So
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: you could have like I mean I suppose vegetable colours would be orange and green
Elmer Gates: Green.
Joseph Stewart: and some reds and um maybe
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: purple and that and then you'd pick the buttons in company colours to to match
Michael Powers: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: with it.
Michael Powers: Okay. Um okay, if you g go over to uh the integrated circuits. Uh since we're having L_C_D_s there there's no way that we're
Elmer Gates: yeah.
Michael Powers: will be able to um what we do need to consider, however, is that the price is going up for the ever every such thing that we are considering,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: but since L_C_D_s seems to be uh a definite yes, so
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: it seems to be one area where we would want to spend. So I'll rub off the other
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: two.
Joseph Stewart: So are we discounting solar energy because rubber's gonna be used in there somewhere or
Elmer Gates: That was the
Michael Powers: Oh is oh the constraint was uh
Elmer Gates: We
Joseph Stewart: If
Elmer Gates: can't have
Michael Powers: yeah.
Joseph Stewart: solar panels
Elmer Gates: solar
Joseph Stewart: with
Elmer Gates: panels
Joseph Stewart: the rubber.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: with rubber,
Michael Powers: So
Elmer Gates: so.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah, okay, so we lose that I think.
Elmer Gates: Shall we go for if we're going for rubber, we think uh on as our case,
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: and then
Dong Lee: And the buttons as well, I think.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Michael Powers: I think
Elmer Gates: We've
Michael Powers: uh
Elmer Gates: got five more minutes.
Michael Powers: we'll have uh uh using the simple battery will be a safer option as compared to the kinetic energy one, I
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: mean, a although it does seem uh interesting.
Joseph Stewart: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: But it does not hold any advantages as
Elmer Gates: Yeah,
Michael Powers: such
Joseph Stewart: It's
Michael Powers: for
Joseph Stewart: just a
Michael Powers: a
Joseph Stewart: gimmick.
Elmer Gates: mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: yeah. Okay. Uh okay, so r we understand this better now that uh the the speaker is for the feedback, right?
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: It it says uh the things that you type in or something like that,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: so
Elmer Gates: I think if we can if we can include them at not too much extra
Michael Powers: Ye
Elmer Gates: cost,
Michael Powers: yeah,
Elmer Gates: then I'd put them in,
Michael Powers: we
Elmer Gates: but if
Michael Powers: we
Elmer Gates: it's
Michael Powers: don't have too much information about it,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: um
Dong Lee: Yeah, but it it I think it should be quite cheap because it's from our own
Elmer Gates: It's
Dong Lee: company,
Elmer Gates: from the company,
Dong Lee: yeah.
Michael Powers: Yeah, okay,
Elmer Gates: so
Michael Powers: so so th this is in as well then, the
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: sample speaker.
Elmer Gates: Okay.
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: And the case is curved on one side, but then
Michael Powers: Flat
Elmer Gates: flat
Michael Powers: on the top.
Elmer Gates: flat, so it's flipped into
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: each other.
Michael Powers: Okay.
Elmer Gates: Can I pull the
Joseph Stewart: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: thing
Joseph Stewart: sure
Elmer Gates: out the back of your
Joseph Stewart: j
Elmer Gates: computer? Just so we can
Joseph Stewart: Sorry, do you want Joseph Stewart to
Elmer Gates: Nothing, it's right, I'm just There we go.
Joseph Stewart: What does um I_C_S_ mean?
Michael Powers: I_C_s? Uh integrated circuits.
Joseph Stewart: Okay, cool. So it's advanced integrated circuits?
Michael Powers: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: Uh oh now I've gone too far.
Michael Powers: Uh um we we're definitely going in for voice recognition as well as
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Michael Powers: L_C_D_s,
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Michael Powers: mm.
Elmer Gates: We're on our way.
Elmer Gates: Okay. So we've basically worked out that we're going with a simple battery, the advanced chip
Michael Powers: Right.
Elmer Gates: and a curved on one side case which is folded in on itself,
Michael Powers: Yep.
Elmer Gates: um made out of rubber and the buttons are also rubber. We're having push-buttons on the outside and then on the inside an L_C_D_ with spinning wheel, and we're incorporating voice recognition. That's our overall concept,
Dong Lee: Um
Elmer Gates: and it's gonna look sort of vegetable, and be in bright vegetable colours.
Dong Lee: Uh-huh. So w w would with have the spinning wheel inside with the L_C_D_, or would it be on the outer
Elmer Gates: I think
Joseph Stewart: Imagine
Elmer Gates: it's on
Joseph Stewart: it would
Elmer Gates: the
Joseph Stewart: be inside.
Dong Lee: Okay.
Joseph Stewart: So um actually that could
Michael Powers: Mm.
Joseph Stewart: like really cut down your thing, so you've got your outside, which is like minimalist,
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: and then you open it up and
Dong Lee: Yeah,
Joseph Stewart: you've got
Dong Lee: okay.
Joseph Stewart: a screen and a spinning wheel, which you can incorporate buttons into.
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: Mm-mm.
Joseph Stewart: Um so you've
Elmer Gates: Yeah.
Joseph Stewart: still not got like a lot of stuff in the
Elmer Gates: On the
Joseph Stewart: You've maybe got, you know like if you're modelling on iPod you've got five buttons and
Elmer Gates: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Stewart: a wheel, and four of the buttons are in the wheel, and the other one's the little bit inside the
Elmer Gates: In
Joseph Stewart: wheel,
Elmer Gates: the centre, yeah,
Joseph Stewart: yeah.
Dong Lee: Mm yeah.
Elmer Gates: sure. Okay, so now we've got thirty minutes before our next meeting. In the meantime, Michael Powers over here is gonna work on the look and feel design,
Michael Powers: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: which I'll presume he'll work out what that means. Um Dong Lee will work on the user interface design and Joseph Stewart is going to work on product evaluation. And as well as that, the two designers are going to work together on our prototype following those instructions that we've just come up with using modelling clay and you will get extra
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: instructions from your
Michael Powers: Cool.
Elmer Gates: personal coach. Is that all okay? And anyone
Dong Lee: Yeah.
Elmer Gates: who hasn't put their their presentation in the project documents
Michael Powers: Yeah,
Elmer Gates: folder,
Michael Powers: okay.
Elmer Gates: it would be good just so in case
Dong Lee: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Gates: we have to refer to it.
Joseph Stewart: Cool, I'm gonna go and sit on my own.
Elmer Gates: Y ah nobody wants to talk to you.
Joseph Stewart: I know,
Elmer Gates: Unplug yourself.
Joseph Stewart: I'm hated.
Dong Lee: Hmm.
Joseph Stewart: I've got a bit tangled up in all this.
Dong Lee: So but shall I move away first or shall I stay here with
Elmer Gates: I dunno, maybe
Dong Lee: we need to
Elmer Gates: I would car | Elmer Gates opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Michael Powers begins presenting, first describing the insides of a remote control. He lists the options for types of batteries, shapes for the remote case, materials to use, and functions to include such as push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCD screens. He then talks about the type of chip certain features would require. The interface specialist begins presenting, first defining user interface and then showing some examples of remotes. She mentions that many existing remotes do not have a nice appearance, and states her preference for a remote that is small and simple and contains a scrolling wheel. Joseph Stewart gives her presentation about user requirements and current trends. She shares that fruits and vegetables are popular, meaning curviness and assymetry are in. The group decides to use LCD screens to give the remote style. They discuss what material should be used, talk about how the surface of the case should look, and plan out the general user interface. After they make some decisions about the remote, Elmer Gates closes the meeting by telling them what their tasks will be until the next meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Rodolfo Lucas: Think we can first
John Faulds: Right
Timothy Garland: Mm.
John Faulds: it was function F_ eight or something. This one right
Timothy Garland: Tha
John Faulds: there.
Timothy Garland: Okay.
John Faulds: Okay.
Timothy Garland: Who is gonna do a presentation
John Faulds: Think we all Huh.
Timothy Garland: You will as well?
John Faulds: Oh I thought we all were. Yeah, I have
Timothy Garland: Okay.
John Faulds: one too, okay. S
Timothy Garland: Yep.
John Faulds: Whoops I forgot to put the thing on
Rodolfo Lucas: Right. I just wanna 'cause basically I can't re I've really crap at remembering everyone's name so I just wanna rather than going uh Miss Marketing and Miss this and Miss that
John Faulds: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: wanted to know your names again.
Timothy Garland: Okay I'm
Rodolfo Lucas: just gonna leave this up here 'cause
John Faulds: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: I'll
Timothy Garland: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: you know.
John Faulds: Sure, that's a good idea.
Rodolfo Lucas: So
Timothy Garland: I'm Catherine with a C_. C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay, and
John Faulds: Uh Gabriel.
Rodolfo Lucas: Gabriel. E_L_ is
John Faulds: E_L_.
Rodolfo Lucas: it? 'Kay. And you're
Robert Strickland: I
Rodolfo Lucas: s
Robert Strickland: am Reissa. R_E_I_S_S_A_.
Rodolfo Lucas: r
Robert Strickland: Double S_ yeah yeah. Sorry.
Rodolfo Lucas: R_E_I_S_S_ Okay. 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think
Timothy Garland: Right. True.
Rodolfo Lucas: Uh. right.
Robert Strickland: Mm 'kay.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay, right, welcome to meeting B_. Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting, basically, uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now. I am your Project Manager, and, uh yeah, I'm just here to sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going, get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically. Um right, this for the purposes of this meeting what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you, what you've been working on for the last wee while, when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and, you know, filling out silly questionnaires and things. But hopefully you've been actually been doing something productive. So we're gonna each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: Um. Then we're gonna work, you know, from each of your presentations. We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all. Um and then we'll, yeah, we'll sort of conclude anything else comes up at the end of it.
Timothy Garland: How long is the meeting?
Rodolfo Lucas: This meeting it's not very long. It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now.
Timothy Garland: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: So I want each of your presentations to not be too long, five
Timothy Garland: No problem.
Rodolfo Lucas: five minutes, something like that. Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy, it doesn't matter, it it just it just says that you it's that's just one particular medium. If you haven't had time to prepare one, you can draw stuff on the noteboard, you can talk to us, you can you know however you want to do your little presentation, basically, you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing. 'Cause I don't. Uh okay. So um. You okay over there? Reissa,
Robert Strickland: I'm fine. Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here
Robert Strickland: I uh yeah, yeah.
John Faulds: Think she's
Rodolfo Lucas: or are y or
John Faulds: finishing
Robert Strickland: D
Rodolfo Lucas: are
Robert Strickland: I mean,
Rodolfo Lucas: y or are
Robert Strickland: I
John Faulds: up
Robert Strickland: I'm
John Faulds: her
Rodolfo Lucas: you
John Faulds: presentation.
Robert Strickland: finishing
Rodolfo Lucas: are you just
Robert Strickland: off my
Rodolfo Lucas: are you
Robert Strickland: presentation.
Rodolfo Lucas: just uh doing some Internet shopping there?
Robert Strickland: No no. Uh I'm done. Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay, jolly good. Alright, let's have um well, we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with. I
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: think the first thing we should look at is um probably the um what it is that it is actually supposed to be. So that's gonna be you Catherine,
Timothy Garland: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: if we wanna hear from you first.
Timothy Garland: Okay. Um just connecting this.
Timothy Garland: Are we
Rodolfo Lucas: You
Timothy Garland: getting
Rodolfo Lucas: don't have to
Timothy Garland: i
Rodolfo Lucas: worry about screwing it in just
Timothy Garland: Really? Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: there you go.
Timothy Garland: Cool. Okay. So I've got a very quick uh Uh. Okay. so um I've oh no, you can't see a thing. Oh well, I'm gonna draw it on the board then. It's
John Faulds: Oh.
Timothy Garland: in blue uh, and I couldn't change it. We
Rodolfo Lucas: Ah.
Timothy Garland: it's fine on my screen, but never mind. So um the idea is that we've got the energy source um, which in our case will pr, oh well okay, never mind. So um I think maybe uh two batteries, I dunno what they're called six, or something like
Rodolfo Lucas: Mm-hmm.
Timothy Garland: that. Uh and then um then on the uh remote control itself will have um the sender for the signal, which could be uh an infra-red signal, um which will be sent by an electronic chip. And uh the chip will be controlled by the user interface. So we'll hear about that later from Gabriel.
Rodolfo Lucas: Mm-hmm.
Timothy Garland: And uh the sender will send to the telly itself an infra-red signal to tell it to switch on or switch channels. Um and that's it really for the working design.
Rodolfo Lucas: Great. Okay.
Timothy Garland: Sorry the presentation wasn't very uh clear
Rodolfo Lucas: I prefer
Timothy Garland: but
Rodolfo Lucas: the pe I prefer the human
Timothy Garland: Really?
Rodolfo Lucas: touch personally.
Timothy Garland: Cool.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
Timothy Garland: Um, should I erase this
Rodolfo Lucas: Do you wanna
Timothy Garland: or
Rodolfo Lucas: just give us a moment, I just
Timothy Garland: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: wanna copy this down. Um
Timothy Garland: Fine.
Rodolfo Lucas: I dunno if you guys have got any questions for Catherine on any of this?
Timothy Garland: Or suggestions?
Robert Strickland: Is a battery like the only way of
Timothy Garland: Well, it's just, you don't want it plugged in really, s
John Faulds: Yeah, alternate energy source, like win wind power or
Robert Strickland: No,
Timothy Garland: In
Robert Strickland: no
Timothy Garland: indoors.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah,
Robert Strickland: No
Rodolfo Lucas: you
Robert Strickland: I meant
Rodolfo Lucas: blow
Robert Strickland: like
Rodolfo Lucas: on it and i
Robert Strickland: No 'cause like cha
John Faulds: Bicycle
Robert Strickland: 'cause
John Faulds: power.
Robert Strickland: always changing um um batteries can get like annoying. The battery's down and maybe, I dunno,
Timothy Garland: I dunno, swi
Robert Strickland: solar
Timothy Garland: I
Robert Strickland: charged?
Timothy Garland: th I th I think changing your batteries once every six months is not really a pain, but
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah, it's
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: worked for the last fifty
Robert Strickland: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: years you know.
John Faulds: One question I have, and I don't know how much control we have over this is um, as far as the infra-red signal, do we have control over, you know, how far away you can be from the receiving unit, the the T_V_, and still have it be operational? I mean, maybe we want one with a strong signal stream.
Rodolfo Lucas: How far away is your television?
Timothy Garland: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: It's
John Faulds: Uh
Rodolfo Lucas: never gonna be more than
Timothy Garland: Well, the thing
Rodolfo Lucas: it's
Timothy Garland: is
Rodolfo Lucas: never
Timothy Garland: uh
Rodolfo Lucas: gonna be,
Timothy Garland: you
Rodolfo Lucas: you
Timothy Garland: you
Rodolfo Lucas: kno
Timothy Garland: don't
Rodolfo Lucas: unless you've got a T_V_ the size of a football pitch, it's not doesn't have to go that far, does it? Doesn't have to go through a wall, because you're not gonna be looking through a wall.
Robert Strickland: Yeah,
John Faulds: That's
Robert Strickland: but if
John Faulds: true.
Robert Strickland: like you're on the phone in the other room and you need turn television off or something and you don't really want to go into the put the telephone down, and go into the other room.
Timothy Garland: Well, we can make the the signal strong enough to go through walls if if you fancy it. I didn't think about that
Robert Strickland: How about
Timothy Garland: but
Robert Strickland: Bluetooth? Instead of using infra-red, use Bluetooth.
Timothy Garland: Why not?
Robert Strickland: Isn't
Timothy Garland: I just
Robert Strickland: that a better
Timothy Garland: think
Robert Strickland: signal?
Timothy Garland: that it's it's gonna cost more and
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah,
Timothy Garland: I'm
Rodolfo Lucas: yeah
Timothy Garland: I'm
Rodolfo Lucas: I
Timothy Garland: not
Rodolfo Lucas: d it
Timothy Garland: sure
Rodolfo Lucas: sounds
Timothy Garland: it's
Rodolfo Lucas: like you
Timothy Garland: you're gonna use
Rodolfo Lucas: you w
Timothy Garland: it.
Rodolfo Lucas: don't wanna overcomplicate things.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: You know we don't need
Timothy Garland: It's a
Rodolfo Lucas: it.
Timothy Garland: fancy idea uh it's quite nice, but then I don't th I dunno, either you if you wanna watch the telly you're in the room, you are gonna
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah, exactly. Basically,
Timothy Garland: But
Rodolfo Lucas: we're we're desi we're designing and marketing a television remote control unit. We're not w w w w designing something that you can plug in a headset to and and you know connect to your laptop computer and stuff. It's uh
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Timothy Garland: Oh, we can we can keep the idea if you i We can see
Robert Strickland: 'S just an
Timothy Garland: at
Robert Strickland: idea.
Timothy Garland: a later stage, maybe, I don't
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: Right, well done, Catherine. Um Gab Gabriel let's
John Faulds: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: uh let's hear from you on on on
Timothy Garland: Do you need the border?
Rodolfo Lucas: such
John Faulds: Uh
Rodolfo Lucas: things.
John Faulds: I'm just gonna use the PowerPoint
Timothy Garland: Okay.
John Faulds: uh.
Timothy Garland: Sorry.
John Faulds: Technical. Okay.
Robert Strickland: Adjusting.
John Faulds: Okay, so, while this is warming up, there it is
Robert Strickland: Yeah.
John Faulds: uh. So I'm doing the user interface design.
Rodolfo Lucas: Mm-hmm.
John Faulds: Yeah, and basically uh, as far as methods, I was I was looking looking at looking at uh already existing remotes, trying to find some inspiration from designs that are already out there. Thinking of what we can retain, what we can do away with, uh what we what we can perfect a little bit as far as design um. we don't want to do something that's too radical of a change, I guess, I mean people want a remote that's familiar, that has their favourite functionalities um and and does the basics,
Rodolfo Lucas: Mm yeah.
John Faulds: but Um so we can improve what's out there and maintain that, the basic functionality that people want. Um so things that seem like absolute must-haves uh would be a volume control, um so up-down keys for that, uh channel keys up-down, but then also a numerical key pad so that they can just key directly to the channel that they want, rather than doing up-down, and uh a mute button. Uh one thing that I didn't include here, that I forgot that we talked about last time, was doing um some sort of lock uh function. Uh,
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay.
John Faulds: I don't I dunno, uh that's one possibility. And so in the research that I was doing there's basically two types of remotes, ones that are engineering centred and ones that are more user centred, which I don't know if I can access the web page from here, but I can show you uh. Yeah. So this is a engineer centred one, so you see it's rather busy, but it also lets you play your movie, stop your movie, fast-forward, all this,
Rodolfo Lucas: Mm-hmm.
John Faulds: um freeze frame. Uh and this is a user centred one. Uh it's
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: it's easier to g just glance at this and see what's possible to do, you're not gonna be staring at it for five minutes.
Rodolfo Lucas: Great.
John Faulds: And I judging from what what we all talked about during our last meeting I kind of gathered that that's what we were going after, uh or the direction we were going in at least. Um. So, the engineering centred ones uh provide a lot of functionality, but it can be a little bit overwhelming, so the user centred ones just focus on ease of use. Uh and this sort of overlaps with what the marketing person uh, Reissa, because
Robert Strickland: Mm.
John Faulds: uh we we need to find out what what people want before we make firm decisions
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: on this. So uh, yeah, that's Robert Strickland.
Rodolfo Lucas: Great. Okay. Now that's I just have a q a q question for you. This w um research that you've been doing looki looking at other, you know, existing units stuff. Um have you found that anyone else has do has looked into the locking function
John Faulds: No that
Rodolfo Lucas: or
John Faulds: that that seemed like a novel idea as f as far as I know. I mean obviously another exists like you like you said in in mobile phones.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: That was sort of the inspiration for it. Um I've never seen that with in in all my years in in
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: the remote business. I've, haven't I've never seen a locking functionality. I dunno, what uh do you guys have a a yea or nay on that a feeling about whether that's really necessary?
Rodolfo Lucas: Um I would say it's If it's simple to do, which I think it probably should be,
John Faulds: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: even if it's a physical, you know, a f a like a f a physical switch or a physical cover for the remote,
John Faulds: Mm-hmm.
Rodolfo Lucas: even something like that,
John Faulds: 'Kay.
Rodolfo Lucas: um then yes, it's like, you know, like s you said earlier on ab ab ab a flip thing,
John Faulds: Right.
Rodolfo Lucas: something like that, being physical. Look into. Um I've had word down from head office that something that we should be centred well, something we should take into account is um we've gotta keep the corporate image within this remote control unit. It's gotta d look like it's in the R_ and R_.
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: You know, the the company it's it's, from what I can see from our other products, are yellow with blue writing on them.
John Faulds: Right.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: Um.
John Faulds: And our motto is is we put the fashion
Rodolfo Lucas: We put
John Faulds: in
Rodolfo Lucas: the
John Faulds: electronics.
Rodolfo Lucas: fashion in electronics.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
John Faulds: I
Rodolfo Lucas: There
John Faulds: think
Rodolfo Lucas: you go.
John Faulds: I think we have to carry that mental.
Rodolfo Lucas: So it's kinda gotta look it's gotta look new and s you know something fashionable. If
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: if remote control well, if telephones can be fashionable, then maybe remote control units can be.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
John Faulds: Well yeah these, I think, we can so we talked about the layout in my presentation and what I didn't mention yet really is is the sort of like the ergonomic
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: design.
Rodolfo Lucas: Because we
John Faulds: I t
Rodolfo Lucas: need
John Faulds: I think we can make big improvements over these two that you see here, I mean.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: Uh,
Rodolfo Lucas: Great.
John Faulds: everything is going t ergonomic, you know, there's you know mice for your computers that are very ergonomic and keyboards and that could be one of our niches p sort of uh uh in the market, I guess.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay,
John Faulds: Um.
Rodolfo Lucas: fantastic. Right,
Robert Strickland: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: well done, Gabriel. Um Reissa.
Robert Strickland: Where does it go
Rodolfo Lucas: Let's
Robert Strickland: into?
Rodolfo Lucas: plug you in, baby.
Robert Strickland: Here?
John Faulds: Yeah.
Robert Strickland: The blue thing.
John Faulds: Uh, yeah, this is getting all. Mm. Yeah, then you just have to do function F_ eight and it should come up.
Robert Strickland: Well, function F_ eight. No
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah,
John Faulds: Yeah,
Rodolfo Lucas: w it
John Faulds: it just takes
Rodolfo Lucas: it just
John Faulds: a second
Robert Strickland: oh.
Rodolfo Lucas: takes a wee while.
John Faulds: uh.
Robert Strickland: Come on. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, for our marketing report uh we observed remote control users in a usability lab, and also gave so this is research and we also gave participants um questionnaires to fill out. Um total number of people tested were a hundred just so you know, so that hundred people were tested and these were the findings. So seventy five per cent of users find the remote control ugly. Okay, so they don't like the look of the remote control. Um eighty f eighty per cent of them would spend more money if the rem remote control looked really cool and fancy. So I think we all agree with that. Um current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user. So, they don't like like the way they operate it doesn't like match how people behave. Um per cent of the users say that they only use ten per cent of the buttons on a remote, so probably if you have like one, two, three, four, five, the whole up to z ten, they probably don't use those, they only use the up and down channel.
Rodolfo Lucas: 'Cause we've only got five channels.
Robert Strickland: exactly. That's another thing. Um seventy five per cent of users say they zap. Not quite sure what they mean, zap, goes like.
Rodolfo Lucas: I think that's k flicking quickly between channels.
John Faulds: Yeah, you
Robert Strickland: Yeah.
John Faulds: wanna navigate the channels quickly
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: I guess.
Robert Strickland: Mm. Um takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. I think especially for uh the older generation. I know my grandmother doesn't like mobile phones, takes ages to work how to use. Anyway um and they also remotes often get lost in the room, so nobody can find them.
John Faulds: Mm.
Robert Strickland: So maybe tracking devices is a good idea. Um personal preferences.
Rodolfo Lucas: Wow. You are a child of technology, aren't you?
Robert Strickland: Um so yeah um I was thinking something easy to use, especially for older people. Um has to look really cool, flashy groovy for people to buy it. And it's easy to find, so I don't know whether maybe and also we asked them whether they wanted whether they'd be interested in um voice activating. So voice activation. So and this was what we came up with. Then if you look fifteen to twenty five this is age, sorry, age groups. So fifteen to twenty five said like ninety two ninety one per cent of them
Rodolfo Lucas: So
Robert Strickland: said
Rodolfo Lucas: there
Robert Strickland: yes.
Rodolfo Lucas: you go, yeah.
Robert Strickland: Um so basically the majority except for the forty five to fifty five year olds for some reason didn't want a voice activated one. And neither did the older generation, but the younger generation who we are catering for, like who have most of the money nowadays, do want a voice act speech recognition
Rodolfo Lucas: Uh but do the younger
Robert Strickland: in a remote.
Rodolfo Lucas: generation have the money?
John Faulds: No I would I
Rodolfo Lucas: They
John Faulds: would
Rodolfo Lucas: they
John Faulds: say the
Rodolfo Lucas: don't.
John Faulds: older
Rodolfo Lucas: It's
John Faulds: the older
Rodolfo Lucas: older
John Faulds: people,
Rodolfo Lucas: generation, they're the ones
Robert Strickland: Well
Rodolfo Lucas: that have gone
Robert Strickland: the
John Faulds: yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: out
Robert Strickland: twenty
Rodolfo Lucas: and
Robert Strickland: five to thirty five year old, and thirty five, and the thirty five to forty five, forty five point seven per cent
Rodolfo Lucas: People
Robert Strickland: say no, so
Rodolfo Lucas: people from the age of thirty f there's a big drop off there. For people up to the age of thirty five, you're kinda saying, yeah, they want it. Um but no they're not sort of most people that have the money are people from the age of thirty five to fifty five,
John Faulds: Yeah, that would be my guess as
Rodolfo Lucas: uh
John Faulds: well.
Rodolfo Lucas: 'cause they're the ones
Robert Strickland: So
Rodolfo Lucas: that
Robert Strickland: they
Rodolfo Lucas: have
Robert Strickland: don't
Rodolfo Lucas: been working for twenty years. Um d
Robert Strickland: Well
Rodolfo Lucas: and tha and that's a that's quite a minority there, so yeah, it's not even like fifty fifty that's th thirty five per cent.
Robert Strickland: These guys are growing up.
John Faulds: about just from the the prospective of our manufacturing cost? I mean if if it's twelve fifty per unit.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: I mean, okay, there's
Robert Strickland: Voice activation might not be the best.
Rodolfo Lucas: I would say scra
John Faulds: Uh.
Rodolfo Lucas: I'd say scrap that straight off.
Robert Strickland: Um also with um with buttons, a thing called R_S_I_, so wrist sense
John Faulds: Repetitive strain uh
Robert Strickland: Huh?
John Faulds: rep repetitive strain injury
Robert Strickland: Yeah,
John Faulds: or like
Robert Strickland: repetitive
John Faulds: from doing
Robert Strickland: strains injury, so they don't I think people who watch T_V_ maybe too often, keep changing channel hurts their wrist. I
Timothy Garland: Well
Robert Strickland: don't think
Timothy Garland: maybe they shouldn't watch
Rodolfo Lucas: So
Robert Strickland: so.
Timothy Garland: so
Rodolfo Lucas: y
Timothy Garland: much
Rodolfo Lucas: so
Timothy Garland: T_V_
Rodolfo Lucas: it's so
Timothy Garland: then.
Rodolfo Lucas: it's so you got so that's something we should have a look into then
Robert Strickland: Yeah
Rodolfo Lucas: i when
John Faulds: Mm.
Robert Strickland: maybe
Rodolfo Lucas: desi
Robert Strickland: not
Rodolfo Lucas: when
Robert Strickland: so hard.
Rodolfo Lucas: designing the ergonomics of see
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: have a look if um there's any w any medical
Timothy Garland: Maybe
Rodolfo Lucas: background
Timothy Garland: it could
Rodolfo Lucas: we
Timothy Garland: be,
Rodolfo Lucas: can
Timothy Garland: instead
Rodolfo Lucas: find
Timothy Garland: of
Rodolfo Lucas: out about
Timothy Garland: pressing
Rodolfo Lucas: this.
Timothy Garland: button it could be just touching a
Robert Strickland: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: Let's
Robert Strickland: Maybe
Rodolfo Lucas: jus we just want need to cover our arses so that people aren't gonna sue us in ten years' time, say your remote control gave Robert Strickland repetitive strain injury.
John Faulds: Yeah, we
Robert Strickland: Mm.
John Faulds: should probably consult with our legal department uh.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah. They're having a lunch break at the moment, but yeah.
Robert Strickland: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: I'll see if I
John Faulds: Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: can get see if I can get hold of them for the next meeting.
John Faulds: I think we can do some really in in that department, the the ergonomic department,
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: we can make some some really good improvements.
Robert Strickland: Mm. Maybe th the buttons not so high up so you don't have to press so much,
John Faulds: Mm.
Robert Strickland: or we just like flat buttons, something. Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay.
Robert Strickland: So that is Robert Strickland.
Rodolfo Lucas: That's great, thank you very much for that, Reissa. Um okay, so we've basically we've decide we've d we've decided that it's gonna be, you know uh, we're going for a basic television remote. It's gotta be safe to use, it's gotta look cool.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: It's gotta be cheap. S um.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: Now going back to the uh industrial design of it, you know, we were looking at whether to use maybe infra-red or Bluetooth. I think, we should just go with the simplest option on everything, uh and that would be infra-red, energy source, that would be batteries. Uh mean we we can look into using the s, you know, the little tiny weeny batteries, all like special long-lasting batteries. Um. But a in there's no I don't think there's any point in making a remote control unit that's gonna last for fifty years, because technology will have changed and, you know, we won't have televisions in ten years' time. So
Timothy Garland: Yep.
Rodolfo Lucas: I think we're all um pretty sussed on that. Um anyone have any questions?
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: Everybody happy in their work?
John Faulds: Yeah, it seems like we're all on the pretty much on the same page.
Rodolfo Lucas: Now this is good, we've got a good structure going on. We all know where we're going to. Have you been ge has have any of you lot been getting loads of crap spam on your computers?
John Faulds: Oh it's probably just you, 'cause you're Rodolfo Lucas.
Robert Strickland: Well, just questionnaires.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: Sell trying to sell your things.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah, stuff. Um okay. Do oh have you guys found out if we can if we can e-mail stuff to each other?
Robert Strickland: Yeah, you can.
Rodolfo Lucas: Right.
John Faulds: Okay.
Rodolfo Lucas: Do all you all know my e-mail address?
John Faulds: No I don't.
Robert Strickland: I
Timothy Garland: Well,
John Faulds: I
Robert Strickland: think he's participant
Timothy Garland: in the project
Robert Strickland: one,
Timothy Garland: announcement,
Robert Strickland: aren't you?
Timothy Garland: you've got the addresses, I think.
John Faulds: Uh
Timothy Garland: So Project Manager, it's
John Faulds: Oh, it's
Timothy Garland: participant
John Faulds: just participant
Timothy Garland: one
John Faulds: one
Timothy Garland: at
John Faulds: oh okay. Yeah.
Rodolfo Lucas: Can
Timothy Garland: A_M_I_.
Rodolfo Lucas: you all d e-mail Robert Strickland your e-mail addresses?
John Faulds: Well it's just
Timothy Garland: You have
John Faulds: w
Timothy Garland: them
John Faulds: it's
Timothy Garland: i
John Faulds: just it's just
Timothy Garland: you have them,
John Faulds: par participant
Timothy Garland: but
John Faulds: one,
Timothy Garland: we'll
John Faulds: participant
Timothy Garland: send you
John Faulds: two.
Timothy Garland: an e-mail.
Rodolfo Lucas: Send
Timothy Garland: You want
Rodolfo Lucas: Robert Strickland, yeah
Timothy Garland: to have friends, don't you?
Rodolfo Lucas: yeah, okay.
John Faulds: So are we headed towards like a b a big yellow and black remote as far as maybe that's our next meeting
Rodolfo Lucas: Is
John Faulds: that
Rodolfo Lucas: it
John Faulds: we
Rodolfo Lucas: yellow
John Faulds: discuss
Rodolfo Lucas: and black
John Faulds: that.
Rodolfo Lucas: or is it yellow and blue? I I kind of thought it was blue writing on a yellow background, but I might be just going
John Faulds: Well,
Rodolfo Lucas: a bit
John Faulds: it's like white on i white and blue on a black background with white with yellow borders.
Rodolfo Lucas: Okay.
John Faulds: Maybe that's
Rodolfo Lucas: Well,
John Faulds: like getting ahead of ourselves.
Timothy Garland: It wouldn't
Rodolfo Lucas: maybe
Timothy Garland: be
Rodolfo Lucas: you can come up with a few with a couple of different
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: ideas?
Robert Strickland: Can't we have different colours in the remotes, so somebody can choose different col like does
Rodolfo Lucas: Well,
Robert Strickland: it have
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: see the
Robert Strickland: to be
Rodolfo Lucas: thing
Robert Strickland: of a certain?
Rodolfo Lucas: is is we've gotta keep the company image. It's gotta say people have gotta look at this remote control and instantly recognise that it's a Real Reaction
Robert Strickland: But if
Rodolfo Lucas: i
John Faulds: Mm.
Robert Strickland: it's
Rodolfo Lucas: product.
Robert Strickland: a R_R_, it would be Real Reaction, like if it had
Rodolfo Lucas: There's
Robert Strickland: a symbol
Rodolfo Lucas: loads
Robert Strickland: on
Rodolfo Lucas: of
Robert Strickland: it.
Rodolfo Lucas: companies that
John Faulds: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: called R_R_. This is slog but this is the slogan, this is the the the
John Faulds: And
Rodolfo Lucas: the
John Faulds: this
Rodolfo Lucas: type.
John Faulds: is something that came on down from from the higher ups,
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
John Faulds: so, I mean, we are sort of beholden to them.
Robert Strickland: So we have to have it one colour.
Rodolfo Lucas: Well, not necessarily.
John Faulds: Not one colour, but the
Rodolfo Lucas: But
John Faulds: pattern
Rodolfo Lucas: we have to
John Faulds: needs
Rodolfo Lucas: incorporate
John Faulds: to be recognisable.
Rodolfo Lucas: it.
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: Not necessarily even if i it just has to ye but you have to look at the product and instantly know that it's one of
Timothy Garland: Well
Rodolfo Lucas: our
Timothy Garland: you
Rodolfo Lucas: products
Timothy Garland: could
Rodolfo Lucas: as
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Rodolfo Lucas: opposed to a Sony product or a, you know, a Panasonic product. It's got to
Timothy Garland: It could
Rodolfo Lucas: so
Timothy Garland: come
Rodolfo Lucas: maybe, so you can have a look at our our other products and see if they all follow a s similar vein, perhaps.
Timothy Garland: But it could come in different colours and have the R_R_ colours just
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
Timothy Garland: somewhere like just around the lock button could be the R_R_ logo
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah.
Timothy Garland: or colours and
Robert Strickland: Mm.
Timothy Garland: If.
Rodolfo Lucas: Quite poss yeah. Well this is all your department. Mm okay. Well, well done everybody. And um, I think we uh stop for lunch now.
John Faulds: Yeah, pretty soon I think, I guess that's now.
Robert Strickland: Are we are we finished ahead of schedule?
Rodolfo Lucas: We might possibly have done.
Timothy Garland: Cool.
John Faulds: Alright, see you all soon.
Rodolfo Lucas: If we've if we've finished at five minutes before the meeting's supposed to finish, then that means we get an extra five minutes for lunch.
Robert Strickland: 'Kay uh.
Rodolfo Lucas: Yeah, there you go.
Rodolfo Lucas: Right. I just have to there's a few little bits and pieces I have to write down, but Take your headsets off, kick back, smoke 'em if you got 'em. | Rodolfo Lucas had the team members re-introduce themselves and then briefed the team on his own duties and on the meeting agenda. Timothy Garland discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed options for batteries and infra-red signals. John Faulds discussed what features the remote was required to have and presented two existing products which were based on different concepts. Rodolfo Lucas then introduced some new requirements to bear in mind when designing the remote. Robert Strickland presented research on consumer preferences on remotes in general and on voice recognition and the team discussed the option to have an ergonomically designed remote. Rodolfo Lucas briefed the team on the decisions made so far and the team discussed color options for the remote. | 1 | amisum | test |
Ronnie Denny: Oh right okay. I cover myself up.
Dan Thompson: I feel like Madonna with one of these on I. said I feel like Madonna with one of these on.
Ronnie Denny: I've always wanted one of these, I really have. Where do you buy 'em from? They're.
Dan Thompson: Right. Hello everybody.
Michael Shannon: Hello.
Dan Thompson: Back again for another wonderful meeting. Is uh everyone ready?
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Almost.
Dan Thompson: Okay, we c we can hold on for a minute.
Ronnie Denny: Oh my gosh.
Dan Thompson: I figured with the spam thing, if you can't beat it, join in.
Michael Shannon: That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive.
Christopher Deleon: Mm 'kay.
Dan Thompson: Are you ready?
Dan Thompson: Okay, right, well, I take it that you are all ready now. Um alright first off we'll just uh recap our last meeting. Um which was we got together just to basically decide on well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing, and who we all are and stuff like that, mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on. Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing, now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that, that's research and development for
Ronnie Denny: Mm-hmm.
Dan Thompson: those that haven't heard that before, see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah, we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations, whether
Michael Shannon: Hmm.
Dan Thompson: they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want.
Michael Shannon: Do you have any preference uh of order?
Dan Thompson: Um I'd like to um hear o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what
Ronnie Denny: Batteries.
Dan Thompson: sort of energy we're gonna be using and
Michael Shannon: I think she is still finishing her.
Christopher Deleon: No no no no, it's fine I'm just preparing.
Dan Thompson: It's just that yeah, let's let's hear from you first.
Michael Shannon: Hmm.
Christopher Deleon: Okay. Where is that
Michael Shannon: Okay,
Christopher Deleon: thing?
Michael Shannon: it's uh
Ronnie Denny: It's here.
Christopher Deleon: Oh sorry, couldn't see. Would that work?
Dan Thompson: Get yourself in position.
Ronnie Denny: Ah.
Christopher Deleon: Okay, so that's Ronnie Denny again. Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery, a hand dynamo which is which was used uh in the fifties for torches, if you remember that kind of which wouldn't
Dan Thompson: I don't
Christopher Deleon: be v
Dan Thompson: think any of us remember
Christopher Deleon: wouldn't
Dan Thompson: the fifties.
Christopher Deleon: be v
Michael Shannon: Is it like
Christopher Deleon: v
Michael Shannon: a crank
Christopher Deleon: yeah,
Michael Shannon: thing
Christopher Deleon: yeah.
Michael Shannon: or something.
Christopher Deleon: It wouldn't be very fancy. You can have a kinetic provision of energy, which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that it will give
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Christopher Deleon: it the energy to work. Or you can use solar cells, but I'm not sure about that indoors, really, but
Michael Shannon: Well, there's sometimes combinations, I mean, like calculators
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: do combinations of battery with but also using some solar power.
Dan Thompson: Do
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: sol solar panel things, do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb?
Christopher Deleon: I dunno
Dan Thompson: Does anybody
Christopher Deleon: actually.
Dan Thompson: know?
Michael Shannon: Uh I think, it has to be on the on the solar energy, but I know.
Christopher Deleon: I dunno. Um. Think the the uh
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Christopher Deleon: what would cost the less would be the basic battery, really.
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Christopher Deleon: And uh if we want something fancier, I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice, but I don't know if it's worth the cost. So we've got to discuss that.
Dan Thompson: Mm. Okay, jolly good.
Christopher Deleon: For the case of the remotes itself, um they can be a general case, which is just a flat one. You can have uh a curved one or a double curved one, if you know what I mean, so
Dan Thompson: What's a double curved one?
Christopher Deleon: You know, kind of more ergonomic, that kind of suits the palm of your hand, that kind of thing. So
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Christopher Deleon: Um then the case material itself, so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex, uh rubber, wood, or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where for example titanium, you can't use it for if you if we're choosing a double curved case, we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material, so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing, so we could uh
Dan Thompson: So that might be an idea of using
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: the rubber, but then it should, you know
Michael Shannon: Let's have a squeezable remote.
Dan Thompson: yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Yeah. And also it doesn't break as easily maybe, I dunno
Dan Thompson: when a T_V_ programme's got one watching the match and your team's just lost, you can fuzz it across the room and it'll bounce off the wall back
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: at you. Yeah, I like that idea.
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Christopher Deleon: So rubber would be Okay.
Ronnie Denny: I think rubber's
Dan Thompson: Rubber, we're all we're all going we're all liking that idea? You think you can market
Ronnie Denny: But after
Dan Thompson: that?
Ronnie Denny: my after my fashion thing, I think you'll realise that rubber is more
Christopher Deleon: Uh
Dan Thompson: Ooh, we
Christopher Deleon: s
Dan Thompson: like rubber, ooh.
Ronnie Denny: People.
Christopher Deleon: so if d okay. And then there are the push-buttons, so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels, like you have on a mouse, um or you could have um L_C_D_, which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons, as well.
Dan Thompson: Uh-huh.
Christopher Deleon: So if you use a rubber double curved case, you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons. So it's
Dan Thompson: Well,
Christopher Deleon: a constraint.
Dan Thompson: we're gonna go with I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case
Christopher Deleon: Yeah, but
Dan Thompson: so
Christopher Deleon: is it a double curved one or not? If it's not a double curved, then we've got the choice for the push-buttons, if it's a double curve, we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense.
Dan Thompson: push buttons instead of the wheel?
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: If it's rubber, isn't it malleable anyway, it doesn't matter if it's double I mean isn't a rubber case, mean it's completely flexed, I mean, it it flexes to whatever they want it to? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double rubber double curved
Christopher Deleon: No, but
Dan Thompson: rubble
Michael Shannon: case?
Dan Thompson: double double.
Christopher Deleon: na le you see, you've got, okay, the energy that's
Dan Thompson: I'll have
Christopher Deleon: one
Dan Thompson: a Big
Christopher Deleon: thing,
Dan Thompson: Mac, please.
Christopher Deleon: then you have the case is uh, whether it's flat or curved. And that's we don't care if it's rub rubber or not, but then we've decided that we going for rubber for the case material. So if we've chosen rub rubber and if now we have the choice for the case whether it's flat, single curved or double curved. And I'm just saying if it if we choose it to be double curved then we need to go I dunno why, but we need to go for uh rubber push-buttons.
Michael Shannon: Okay.
Christopher Deleon: So, either I dunno we just need to decide on the
Dan Thompson: Let's have
Christopher Deleon: on
Dan Thompson: rubber
Christopher Deleon: the case.
Dan Thompson: push buttons, hey.
Michael Shannon: Okay. Go rubber. Go
Christopher Deleon: Let's
Michael Shannon: rubber
Christopher Deleon: go crazy.
Michael Shannon: the whole way.
Christopher Deleon: And then, do I have a last slide? Yes, I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Um and the price that go with it with it, so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel, that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_, the display thing, then that's even more expensive.
Dan Thompson: Simple, yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit.
Dan Thompson: Okay, uh what I'm not understanding here
Christopher Deleon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: is uh, okay, advanced chip on print, which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: including the um
Christopher Deleon: The infra-red.
Dan Thompson: infra-red sender?
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that? Y um what alternatives do we have to the chip
Christopher Deleon: Well,
Dan Thompson: on
Christopher Deleon: if
Dan Thompson: print?
Christopher Deleon: if it's not chip on print then, I guess, you get different chip components, and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm
Dan Thompson: so it sounds
Christopher Deleon: Technically speaking, it's not as advanced, but it does the job, too.
Dan Thompson: So, why would we not go for that? If it's something
Christopher Deleon: Fo
Dan Thompson: that's inside the the unit.
Christopher Deleon: It doesn't,
Dan Thompson: I it
Christopher Deleon: yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan Thompson: doesn't affects whether the customer's
Christopher Deleon: Totally.
Dan Thompson: gonna buy it or not.
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: Um
Christopher Deleon: So let's not
Dan Thompson: we
Christopher Deleon: go
Dan Thompson: wanna
Christopher Deleon: for
Dan Thompson: go
Christopher Deleon: the
Dan Thompson: for an i i all so long as it works,
Christopher Deleon: Yeah, yeah.
Dan Thompson: you
Christopher Deleon: I
Dan Thompson: know.
Christopher Deleon: agree.
Dan Thompson: So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print.
Christopher Deleon: So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons.
Dan Thompson: Yeah. S yeah, push buttons.
Ronnie Denny: What about the just
Michael Shannon: I
Ronnie Denny: developed
Michael Shannon: think push-buttons
Ronnie Denny: uh sample
Michael Shannon: is
Ronnie Denny: sensor?
Dan Thompson: What about what?
Ronnie Denny: G there, the sample sensor, sample
Christopher Deleon: Well
Ronnie Denny: speaker thing.
Dan Thompson: Well, what do we need a speaker for in a remote control unit?
Ronnie Denny: Mm, I dunno. Be cool.
Christopher Deleon: It'd
Ronnie Denny: Channel
Christopher Deleon: be it'd
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: be cool,
Ronnie Denny: two.
Christopher Deleon: but they are saying they've just developed it, I'm just guessing. But it's gonna
Dan Thompson: S
Christopher Deleon: be the most expensive option, probably and
Michael Shannon: Th the the speech recognition um option is it doesn't seem really very promising for us
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: uh, 'cause
Dan Thompson: It's not
Michael Shannon: uh
Dan Thompson: something that we wanna t go into with this
Michael Shannon: The
Dan Thompson: product.
Michael Shannon: yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine, where, basically, you can program a sample wi um That when you say something it will give a response, and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say, good morning, to it it says, hello Rick, or whatever.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: But, I mean, it's not it would
Christopher Deleon: Hm.
Michael Shannon: be one thing if it was speech recognition where you say something and it turns the T_V_ on like, turn the T_V_ on, and i turns comes on, but it's not that. It just gives
Ronnie Denny: Oh,
Michael Shannon: you
Ronnie Denny: it
Michael Shannon: a
Ronnie Denny: just gives an answer.
Michael Shannon: it just gives you a verbal response. So, yeah, I mean,
Ronnie Denny: Oh, then then
Michael Shannon: like what's the point of saying,
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: Hello remote, I mean, hello,
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: how how are
Ronnie Denny: I
Michael Shannon: you?
Ronnie Denny: thought I thought it was when
Christopher Deleon: Just
Ronnie Denny: they
Christopher Deleon: if
Ronnie Denny: said
Christopher Deleon: you are really lonely,
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Christopher Deleon: maybe.
Michael Shannon: if you're really lonely, it
Ronnie Denny: I thought
Michael Shannon: is it's
Ronnie Denny: when they said, voice recognition, they meant um like, channel five, and it
Michael Shannon: No,
Ronnie Denny: will change.
Michael Shannon: tha that
Ronnie Denny: Like
Michael Shannon: w
Ronnie Denny: you
Michael Shannon: that
Ronnie Denny: talk
Michael Shannon: w
Ronnie Denny: to it.
Michael Shannon: that would be
Ronnie Denny: Can
Michael Shannon: more
Ronnie Denny: I
Michael Shannon: promising.
Ronnie Denny: have channel five?
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: It it's just a remote that talks to you. Uh.
Ronnie Denny: Oh,
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: then forget
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: about it. Oh right okay.
Michael Shannon: I mean to certain cues.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Okay, so I'll go back, maybe, to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem, what we should choose. So
Michael Shannon: 'Kay.
Christopher Deleon: for the energy source, do we go for the battery or the
Michael Shannon: Yeah, I'm fine with the basic battery.
Dan Thompson: Basic
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: battery. It's cheap, it's cheerful, it's worked, does work.
Michael Shannon: Hmm.
Christopher Deleon: Cheaper option. Are
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Christopher Deleon: you happy with that?
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case, do you want it flat or curved or sing or
Dan Thompson: We
Christopher Deleon: double
Dan Thompson: were go
Christopher Deleon: curved?
Dan Thompson: we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber, weren't
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Dan Thompson: we?
Michael Shannon: so we want it rub rubber double curved.
Dan Thompson: The the
Ronnie Denny: So it will look like
Christopher Deleon: Double?
Ronnie Denny: something like
Dan Thompson: The double
Ronnie Denny: this.
Dan Thompson: whopper, please.
Christopher Deleon: Okay, so then if we use double
Dan Thompson: Yep,
Christopher Deleon: curved
Dan Thompson: but
Christopher Deleon: case, then we have
Dan Thompson: we're going
Christopher Deleon: to
Dan Thompson: for
Christopher Deleon: u
Dan Thompson: the simple
Christopher Deleon: choose
Dan Thompson: buttons.
Michael Shannon: So rubber
Christopher Deleon: rubber push-buttons,
Michael Shannon: rubber keys,
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: and that's
Michael Shannon: yeah.
Christopher Deleon: fine?
Dan Thompson: And it's cheapest all round, it sounds kinda funky, and
Christopher Deleon: P
Dan Thompson: we can also
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: market it as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_ people were getting the complaining about R_S_I_, and this is anti-R_S_I_.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: So that's another marketing point that we can use.
Ronnie Denny: Well the rubber push-buttons. Don't you have to move
Dan Thompson: But
Ronnie Denny: your
Dan Thompson: anything is gonna have buttons.
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: Even if it's a jog wheel, it's still repetitive.
Christopher Deleon: I thought they
Dan Thompson: You
Christopher Deleon: would give an option of flat buttons or a
Dan Thompson: You see, you can
Christopher Deleon: That
Dan Thompson: still
Christopher Deleon: they don't.
Dan Thompson: get it does you still get repetitive strain injury, whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen. It's the v it's the
Christopher Deleon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: fact that you are pressing the same doing the same movement. It's not actually what you are doing. But the fact that this this rubber i is actually used in these anti-R_S_I_ ps specific
Ronnie Denny: Mm. Yeah, the
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: rubber's good.
Michael Shannon: We're giving them a way to burn off steam, basically, yeah.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah, so they can sit there and go like
Michael Shannon: Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful.
Dan Thompson: And you know, yeah, you can fuzz it across the room and throw
Michael Shannon: Oh
Dan Thompson: it
Michael Shannon: yeah,
Dan Thompson: at throw
Michael Shannon: I guess
Dan Thompson: it
Michael Shannon: T_V_
Dan Thompson: at your
Michael Shannon: can
Dan Thompson: children
Michael Shannon: be stressful, yeah, if you're watching sports.
Dan Thompson: yeah.
Christopher Deleon: Alright, that's Ronnie Denny done.
Michael Shannon: Alright. Alright.
Dan Thompson: about the um it's the interface.
Michael Shannon: Yeah, some of what I have to say ties into what Catherine was just talking about.
Dan Thompson: Great.
Christopher Deleon: Sorry.
Michael Shannon: Okay, so I'm continuing with the user interface uh topic. And so basically I consulted with our manufacturing division. It sounded like Catherine was also speaking with them. Uh I also took uh Reissa's marketing findings from the last meeting into consideration um, 'cause I think that's that's crucial as far as uh what keys we're going to inc inclu what buttons we are going to include and and how they're laid out.
Dan Thompson: Mm.
Michael Shannon: Uh and so the manufacturing division uh sent some some samples of of uh interface components that we might be interested in using that have been used in other products, uh like the coffee machine. So I already mentioned the speech recognition interface. I guess, we we basically vetoed that idea. It's it's pointless.
Dan Thompson: Mm.
Michael Shannon: Uh it's just a sample sensor sample output. It would just be probably the most expensive part of our remote without any actual interesting functionality as far as operating the T_V_. Uh so yeah, they they also give the uh they they suggested the idea of using a spinning wheel like you use on the
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Michael Shannon: side of
Dan Thompson: Mm.
Michael Shannon: an M_P_ three player like iPod. Um so we've already addressed that and I think that would actually be worse for something like R_S_I_ I mean you got that thumb movement
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: that you're constantly
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Michael Shannon: doing.
Ronnie Denny: That does get
Michael Shannon: Um
Ronnie Denny: annoying.
Michael Shannon: the other suggestion, and I I have a feeling that we're interested in in something more general, but they suggested uh, you know, going i a little bit into a a niche, like either gearing our remote towards kids, where you could have lot of colours um, the keys might be you know, funny or or, or uh something
Dan Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Shannon: for the elderly, where the remote's very large and the buttons are very large and there's only a few buttons. But you know we can we can discuss this, but it sounded like from our last meeting we really wanted something that was general, but done well. Uh
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: um So, the key layout and design are really crucial. You don't want uh you want people to be able to quickly access the buttons that they use a lot without uh always pressing the wrong one um. And I didn't mention that we need a power button in our last I can give you an example here of uh, good layout and bad layout uh from our manufacturing department. So this would be an example of bad layout,
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: of them, so
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: uh it's sort of confusing for the user. Uh
Dan Thompson: Do we have an uh example
Michael Shannon: this is
Dan Thompson: of
Michael Shannon: the
Dan Thompson: a
Michael Shannon: example
Dan Thompson: good one?
Michael Shannon: of the giant remote that's impossible to lose.
Ronnie Denny: Uh-huh.
Dan Thompson: Brilliant.
Ronnie Denny: Well
Michael Shannon: And for something for kids. Yeah. Um.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: And so, yeah, I th I think my personal preferences of we've all kind of talked about and seemed to be on the same page um. Uh so I was against the speech recognition and against going uh towards anything in in a niche sense. I think it should be more general.
Dan Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Shannon: I didn't I didn't think the spinning-wheel or the uh L_C_ display were were crucial for us. And, yeah, that's it for Ronnie Denny.
Dan Thompson: Okay. Well let's um so w what are our definite decisions on this then as a team? The um The the um the interface type we're going for
Michael Shannon: So we're we're not gonna have any sort of display I think uh.
Dan Thompson: Just the simple
Michael Shannon: So, yeah,
Dan Thompson: s
Michael Shannon: it's just gonna be
Dan Thompson: simple straight set
Michael Shannon: just
Dan Thompson: of
Michael Shannon: gonna
Dan Thompson: buttons.
Michael Shannon: be push-buttons. Um. I think we shall have a limited number of buttons, ideally, I mean
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: a a power, channel up, channel down, volume up, volume
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: down, and a numerical keypad. Uh. And some sort of it will either have a a lock button like we mentioned or or a cover or something like that.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: I guess it's to the point where we need to decide about that.
Dan Thompson: Okay, and we're not yeah.
Michael Shannon: Well now that we've decided
Dan Thompson: Are
Michael Shannon: on
Dan Thompson: we
Michael Shannon: our
Dan Thompson: gonna hav hav an are we d have we decided on whether w we're gonna s supplement it with anything, you know, colours or particular gimmicky bits to it, we're not we're just gonna go for something
Michael Shannon: Um
Dan Thompson: We're
Michael Shannon: it seems
Ronnie Denny: Maybe
Michael Shannon: like we wouldn't wanna
Ronnie Denny: we can
Michael Shannon: make it too busy and too sort of gaudy, but um Yeah, I would say mayb maybe a couple of colours like uh like a black with with yellow and somewhere, like maybe the R_R_
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: can be yellow, or something like that.
Dan Thompson: Yeah. Okay. Okey-dokey. Yeah, I don't have any other questions on this. Let's move over
Michael Shannon: I
Dan Thompson: to
Michael Shannon: I guess the fact uh also that we are having a rubber case uh would prevent us from having the cover function that we thought of before. I mean, 'cause
Dan Thompson: Yeah,
Michael Shannon: uh s
Dan Thompson: sure.
Michael Shannon: so if we wanna have a lock of some sort it would have to be a button. But I think that should be I mean um, I can speak with the button department, but uh I think that it should be easy to have a button that just
Dan Thompson: Yeah, the
Michael Shannon: prevents
Dan Thompson: button that
Michael Shannon: prevents
Dan Thompson: just does
Michael Shannon: the
Dan Thompson: that,
Michael Shannon: other
Dan Thompson: yeah.
Michael Shannon: uh the other buttons from operating. So that should be simple.
Dan Thompson: Cool.
Ronnie Denny: Right. Well, I'm just basically letting you know what's happening in the markets
Dan Thompson: Mm yeah.
Ronnie Denny: and what the fashions are for next year. Um. So yes, so from looking at this year's trends and fashions
Dan Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Ronnie Denny: and also recent investigation that we've done in the remote control market, we have found that for the remote control market these are like most important aspects like that we really need to which we've already probably discussed. Um the most important aspect is look and feel. So the remote control has to look and feel fancier than the ones that already that we already have. So it has to be
Dan Thompson: Yeah, why should people
Ronnie Denny: Yep.
Dan Thompson: buy this when they're already got
Ronnie Denny: Exactly.
Dan Thompson: a remote
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: that came with the T_V_?
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Um second, uh it should be technologically innovative innovative. So
Dan Thompson: What's that mean?
Ronnie Denny: Technologically it should be like um work, basically, I guess. It should work.
Michael Shannon: Well it should be it should be
Ronnie Denny: Should
Michael Shannon: maybe cutting edge in some sense, I mean have something that's little more
Ronnie Denny: That's
Michael Shannon: technologically
Ronnie Denny: new.
Michael Shannon: advanced
Dan Thompson: Okay,
Michael Shannon: than what's on the market.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: now the trouble is is we've
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: already decided that we're going with the stuff that works already, that's
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: cheap.
Michael Shannon: Actually,
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: I mean, these first two points we've already sort of gone away from, 'cause
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: our rubber one is not fancy I mean it's different, but I wouldn't say like a rubber remote is fancy. If that's what people want then we maybe we're going in the wrong direction. And it's it's not technologically innovative either.
Ronnie Denny: So,
Dan Thompson: Maybe
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: we
Ronnie Denny: no loose
Dan Thompson: could um
Ronnie Denny: That's why I was thinking, Bluetooth, 'cause if you like put up Bluetooth, and it's like a Bluetooth remote control, everybody's gonna like, oh, 'cause Bluetooth is the in thing nowadays, like it really is, like people and um when it comes to marketing like that's what people go for, they don't really care whether, you know, at the end of the day whether it works properly or not.
Dan Thompson: Of course, they do.
Ronnie Denny: Well, they do, but it's
Dan Thompson: One
Ronnie Denny: like
Dan Thompson: hundred
Ronnie Denny: it's not
Dan Thompson: per cent, that's your first thing, you go, oh I'm not gonna buy that, 'cause I dunno if it works or not.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah, but it looks good. If it looks good and it's it can just be there for decoration.
Dan Thompson: Okay, well, what do you two think about this?
Michael Shannon: So is is the advantage
Ronnie Denny: But
Michael Shannon: of
Ronnie Denny: like
Michael Shannon: Bluetooth that you can just like synchronise it with other electronics?
Dan Thompson: Yeah, what I don't understand what
Ronnie Denny: You could always insert,
Dan Thompson: m
Ronnie Denny: yeah.
Michael Shannon: Yeah, that's basically what it allows you to do, right?
Dan Thompson: Yeah, and it this is just gonna all this is being used for is your television.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah, but, I mean, people
Dan Thompson: It
Ronnie Denny: like
Dan Thompson: would that would mean you'd need a television that has Bluetooth in it, which
Ronnie Denny: Well,
Dan Thompson: no no
Ronnie Denny: if you're
Dan Thompson: television
Christopher Deleon: Well
Ronnie Denny: looking at
Dan Thompson: does, does it?
Ronnie Denny: if you looking at something that's going to be bought by people, you have to make it new, you have to make it
Dan Thompson: That would mean
Ronnie Denny: state
Dan Thompson: we'd have to
Ronnie Denny: of
Dan Thompson: make
Ronnie Denny: the art.
Dan Thompson: a television as well.
Christopher Deleon: Bluetooth would, for example, enable you, I think, to um um connect for example you if you get a w call on your mobile phone, but your mobile phone is downstairs or something, you would get on your television you're being called by this person right now. Things like that.
Dan Thompson: No, that would be your telephone in with your television.
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Christopher Deleon: No
Michael Shannon: the that wouldn't
Christopher Deleon: i
Michael Shannon: be the remote so much,
Dan Thompson: Yeah,
Michael Shannon: I mean
Christopher Deleon: No,
Dan Thompson: and
Christopher Deleon: but
Dan Thompson: i
Christopher Deleon: if you get Bluetooth on the remote, you'd be able to
Dan Thompson: Nah, the televi
Christopher Deleon: I with the television, yeah.
Dan Thompson: the television would have to be
Christopher Deleon: I
Dan Thompson: a
Christopher Deleon: was
Dan Thompson: Bluetooth
Christopher Deleon: just trying to find
Dan Thompson: compatible,
Christopher Deleon: an advantage.
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: basically.
Christopher Deleon: Wha what w
Ronnie Denny: Well,
Christopher Deleon: what
Ronnie Denny: it doesn't
Christopher Deleon: advantage
Dan Thompson: An
Christopher Deleon: would
Dan Thompson: and
Christopher Deleon: you
Dan Thompson: there
Christopher Deleon: get
Dan Thompson: is no
Christopher Deleon: for
Dan Thompson: there
Christopher Deleon: the
Dan Thompson: is no such thing.
Ronnie Denny: Like it doesn't have to be, you know, Bluetooth, that was just an idea, but like it needs do something that, you know, is new. Whether it's a battery it could be something really really minor, you know, like but I think we are really keeping to what is already out there, and people've already seen it, people've already got it.
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Ronnie Denny: If we want something new, we need to move away from what we already have and um
Christopher Deleon: Maybe the kinetic
Ronnie Denny: just go creative.
Christopher Deleon: mo provision of energy then. It's been done for watches, but I haven't seen that for remotes,
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Christopher Deleon: yet.
Dan Thompson: Yeah, this that's that's
Ronnie Denny: And then
Dan Thompson: very
Ronnie Denny: you can market
Dan Thompson: good.
Ronnie Denny: it. Never have to change
Christopher Deleon: Change
Ronnie Denny: a
Christopher Deleon: the
Ronnie Denny: battery
Christopher Deleon: batteries
Ronnie Denny: again.
Christopher Deleon: ever again.
Dan Thompson: And and this is all tying in very nicely. The fact that it's made out of this rubber, we can throw it about. Th we should encourage people to throw their remote controls about, because it charges itself
Christopher Deleon: Yeah, well,
Dan Thompson: up by
Michael Shannon: Yes,
Dan Thompson: doing
Christopher Deleon: and
Michael Shannon: so
Dan Thompson: it.
Michael Shannon: can
Christopher Deleon: in little characters you say, yeah, but not too much.
Ronnie Denny: I think, safety
Dan Thompson: But yeah, by the squeezing it
Ronnie Denny: s
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Dan Thompson: the
Michael Shannon: we can make the squeezing of the rubber be the be the generating
Dan Thompson: Yeah,
Michael Shannon: like the energy
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: generator.
Dan Thompson: that's a great idea. Well done.
Ronnie Denny: Third most important aspect uh is it's easy to use. And I think we've all
Michael Shannon: we're
Ronnie Denny: um
Michael Shannon: all about that.
Ronnie Denny: worked that out. Um okay, in the fashion, how it's supposed to look. Next year's fashion i very much in fruit and vegetables are thm are like the theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So next year people will be buying, I found this really funny, you know, strawberry shaped chairs,
Michael Shannon: Okay, so we
Ronnie Denny: and
Michael Shannon: could have
Ronnie Denny: things.
Michael Shannon: keys that are like a b like a broccoli key and a
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: uh
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: and an avocado
Ronnie Denny: Rubber
Dan Thompson: I wanna
Michael Shannon: key
Dan Thompson: watch
Michael Shannon: on
Dan Thompson: the
Michael Shannon: them.
Ronnie Denny: things.
Dan Thompson: pineapple channel.
Ronnie Denny: Um and as it's rubber the feel which is in this year is spongy, so it's it's not quite spongy,
Dan Thompson: Well
Ronnie Denny: but
Dan Thompson: spongy,
Ronnie Denny: spongy,
Dan Thompson: that's
Ronnie Denny: I would
Dan Thompson: where.
Ronnie Denny: say
Dan Thompson: Yeah,
Ronnie Denny: is
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Dan Thompson: we're
Michael Shannon: that's
Ronnie Denny: yeah,
Michael Shannon: great
Dan Thompson: we're
Michael Shannon: for us.
Ronnie Denny: so
Dan Thompson: ahead
Ronnie Denny: we're
Dan Thompson: of
Ronnie Denny: in.
Dan Thompson: the game there.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah. And so personal what I was just saying like move away from the current remote controls uh like the look and the feel of the current ones and change the look and feel, while still keeping to the company's image, basically. So yeah.
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Ronnie Denny: I had to say So
Michael Shannon: Right.
Ronnie Denny: we're moving in the right direction
Dan Thompson: Alright,
Ronnie Denny: like
Dan Thompson: yeah, no,
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: this i this is good, so through all that we've we go we're right, we're gonna go go back to um going with the kinetic
Michael Shannon: Yeah,
Christopher Deleon: Yep.
Michael Shannon: that's great.
Dan Thompson: thing, that's great, using the spongy rubber that we were talking about that anti-R_S_I_ you can as you squeeze it you are not only therapeuticising yourself, you are charging the batteries,
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: and um I'm not sure about the buttons being in the shape of fruit though.
Michael Shannon: Yeah, I don't know how we
Christopher Deleon: No
Michael Shannon: incorporate
Christopher Deleon: vegetables.
Michael Shannon: We don't have
Ronnie Denny: Maybe
Michael Shannon: to follow
Ronnie Denny: make
Michael Shannon: every
Ronnie Denny: it
Michael Shannon: trend,
Ronnie Denny: like
Michael Shannon: I guess.
Ronnie Denny: fruity colours or something. Some
Michael Shannon: Uh-huh.
Ronnie Denny: sort. Or
Michael Shannon: The power
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Michael Shannon: button could be like a big apple or something.
Christopher Deleon: Well yeah, but Apple would sue you for that.
Dan Thompson: Yeah, this is true.
Michael Shannon: They don they don't own all images of apples.
Christopher Deleon: sued the Beatles so
Michael Shannon: Okay, we'll make it a uh pomegranate, a big pomegranate.
Dan Thompson: Well, okay, it seems like the only thing that we haven't really finally um agreed on is its image. Like, yeah, we're we're saying no we don't want it to be fruit and vegetables, but we dunno what it should be, or like are we going yeah it looks slick, but
Ronnie Denny: Well
Dan Thompson: what do what do we mean by slick sort of thing?
Ronnie Denny: I think, if it's rubber it needs to be
Dan Thompson: I mean you said earlier on i it should be funky.
Ronnie Denny: different. I think, it's it should be you associate with rubber? You know like really different
Dan Thompson: L
Ronnie Denny: colours
Dan Thompson: keep it
Ronnie Denny: basically.
Dan Thompson: clean, keep
Ronnie Denny: Okay,
Dan Thompson: it clean.
Ronnie Denny: sor I sorry, I used the wrong word, what do you associate with the mate the material that material? Um Um like I'm just thinking bright colours.
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Bright natural colours, nothing too
Dan Thompson: Bright, but not too
Ronnie Denny: Bright,
Dan Thompson: bright.
Ronnie Denny: but too not yeah.
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Like no lime green or bright yellow or bright pink. Wanna make it different colours so anybody can choo like
Dan Thompson: Like the volume
Ronnie Denny: like
Dan Thompson: buttons should be the all the same colour and the d and the the channel buttons
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: should be one colour and stuff like that, do you mean?
Ronnie Denny: Yeah. And on the back of it have the logo.
Dan Thompson: Okay, what?
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: Sure.
Christopher Deleon: Why not?
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Michael Shannon: The one
Dan Thompson: Tha
Michael Shannon: thing I'm wondering about, I hope that we're not going like too much down a gimmicky road of of
Dan Thompson: Yeah,
Michael Shannon: having
Dan Thompson: I mean
Michael Shannon: I
Dan Thompson: we
Michael Shannon: mean
Dan Thompson: that's
Michael Shannon: if somebody
Dan Thompson: we
Michael Shannon: go goes
Dan Thompson: we
Michael Shannon: into the store they're gonna see like three or four normal remotes, and then a big spongy pink t tomato
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: uh remote.
Dan Thompson: This
Michael Shannon: I mean what are ninety
Dan Thompson: is
Michael Shannon: per
Dan Thompson: the
Michael Shannon: cent
Dan Thompson: remote
Michael Shannon: of people
Dan Thompson: control
Michael Shannon: gonna take?
Dan Thompson: tomato.
Ronnie Denny: Well I can say in this country, you'll get, you know, lots of people wanting something really funky and cool. Like and kids will be walking in with their parents saying, Mummy I wanna buy that one. And uh parents will see the will see the pro as well, because it's um like kids won't break it, it's not breakable if you throw it around.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Especially with younger kids, you know they can pick it up and and Yeah. The only thing is is that really small kids might chew on it, but
Dan Thompson: Well, it's it's gotta be chew proof.
Ronnie Denny: Yeah. So
Christopher Deleon: I'm gonna write that
Ronnie Denny: so it's
Christopher Deleon: down.
Ronnie Denny: rea it's quite it's quite like um user friendly and also for different families, like like family use as well, so for little kids and for old ki like teenagers will like it, I think. Especially maybe younger girls if it's in pink they'll be like pink remote control for their room something.
Dan Thompson: So, what are you saying, maybe we should market it in different colours
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: for different so we could do
Christopher Deleon: That's
Dan Thompson: like
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: the pink
Christopher Deleon: yeah.
Dan Thompson: range, the blue range, the green range, the
Ronnie Denny: So like you walk in, you're like, oh I like that remote control, because it's so bright, and then, and then the shop assistant comes up and says, oh what colour would you like? and then they go like, oh I can choose the colour wow. So it puts, I think, even the customer into more control over what they're buying instead of, you've got all colour it's either that or nothing. So they also get to pick. Well, personally I like walking into a shop and choosing a colour.
Michael Shannon: Yeah I mean, that that seems
Ronnie Denny: It's
Michael Shannon: to work
Ronnie Denny: um
Michael Shannon: well with for products like iPod, where, you know, you have
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: a
Dan Thompson: Mm.
Michael Shannon: variety of colours, that people feel like they're customising it
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Michael Shannon: when they buy it, even, you
Ronnie Denny: D
Michael Shannon: know,
Ronnie Denny: you've
Christopher Deleon: Although
Michael Shannon: just
Ronnie Denny: got
Michael Shannon: just
Christopher Deleon: I'd
Michael Shannon: by
Ronnie Denny: the
Christopher Deleon: be
Michael Shannon: the
Christopher Deleon: curious
Michael Shannon: fact of choosing.
Christopher Deleon: to see how many uh You know, there are some colours that I wouldn I would never choose, and I would be curious how many people choose that colour.
Michael Shannon: Right.
Dan Thompson: Well that's that can be down to bit of market researching
Christopher Deleon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: you know, if that's
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: easy enough to find out what colours are more popular.
Christopher Deleon: And produce less of the silly colours, maybe.
Dan Thompson: Mm. Okay. Alright. Well um, we'll alright let's what we're gonna aim to get together by the next meeting then um is from you Catherine wi your y y you know you're gonna be working on the the look and feel design.
Christopher Deleon: Yep.
Dan Thompson: Um Gabriel, you're gonna be working on, you know come up with the the user interface design. Then basically, you two are gonna be working together on this. You won't be going off
Christopher Deleon: Alright.
Dan Thompson: to your separate offices.
Michael Shannon: Okay.
Dan Thompson: Um and I think you are gonna get a chance to play with some clay.
Michael Shannon: Oh right.
Dan Thompson: I think, yeah, it's gonna
Christopher Deleon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: you know, come up ki you know, be ab for the next meeting be able to come in and show us some some i some physical ideas. 'Cause at
Christopher Deleon: Cool.
Dan Thompson: the moment, uh you know, it's it's hard.
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: We
Christopher Deleon: It
Dan Thompson: were
Christopher Deleon: is.
Dan Thompson: kinda going, yeah, it's gotta feel nice, it's gotta look cool and that it's you know now we can actually start, you know, s some sort of physical something or other.
Michael Shannon: That sounds good.
Dan Thompson: Um and you're gonna be working on the product evaluation.
Ronnie Denny: Evaluation.
Dan Thompson: Um. And I will be uh talking to the bosses, basically, and uh f fielding off some more spam and uh
Christopher Deleon: Great.
Dan Thompson: that's it really. Keeping things t well, uh you know, ho hopefully uh keeping things together. Um. Yeah, that's This is this is uh good. So we know for definite we know we've we've now got some definite things going on. We definitely
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Dan Thompson: know how it's powered, we definitely know that um it's gonna be a simple buttons, we're not gonna be going for the new technological chip on print expensive things, so we've we're keeping the costs down. It's this rubber casing that we can sell as um fun and funky. Don't know of any other remote controls that are made out of this stuff.
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: People, you know, people are saying, oh, standard stuff gives you repetitive strain injury, well this remote control is designed to do the complete opposite,
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: It's supposed to fix it rather than cause it. Um. you know, we're gonna we we're gonna as a sort of extra something on it, you know what what extra things are there extra things this product have? We'll look into this lock key
Michael Shannon: Right.
Dan Thompson: facility, although whether or not it happens, or is possible, I don't know, but something to look into. Okay. I think that's um well done everybody.
Michael Shannon: Alright.
Dan Thompson: Anyone have any uh any questions, everyone know what they're doing?
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: 'Cause if you don't, you'll I'm sure you'll soon get an e-mail about it.
Michael Shannon: Yeah. Mm, I think we all know what
Ronnie Denny: S
Michael Shannon: we need to do now.
Ronnie Denny: This gives you all the details?
Dan Thompson: Okay.
Michael Shannon: Okay.
Dan Thompson: right well. It's um we're we've still couple of minutes until our meeting's due to finish. But um I got a note saying that you two who are gonna be working together so
Michael Shannon: Okay, I'll stay
Dan Thompson: bef
Michael Shannon: in here.
Dan Thompson: before you all disappear off just
Ronnie Denny: um.
Dan Thompson: hold hold fire. Um.
Michael Shannon: Does the pay-raise immediately come into effect on our next pay-check, or is that
Dan Thompson: Um I think, it's uh, yeah, I think, it's gonna be par part more of a profit sharing on the product.
Michael Shannon: So we're buying fut I mean, we're getting futures in the company.
Dan Thompson: Yeah, I think i I think that's I think that's the way it's gonna happen at the moment.
Michael Shannon: So we really have a incentive to make this remote work.
Dan Thompson: Yeah. Yeah.
Michael Shannon: I'd like to share in the coffee machine profits, because that's really doing well.
Dan Thompson: I want a share in the space rocket. Did you see that this k
Michael Shannon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: that this company we've made
Ronnie Denny: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: a spaceship.
Michael Shannon: This company has its its fingers in a lot of different pots.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: Yeah, we're definitely not in the money making department.
Michael Shannon: Well I I did notice looking at I mean, they told you that they wanted whatev our product to represent the the R_R_ brand and and to be immediately
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: noticeable. I mean, if you look like at the coffee maker at the at the corporate web page, it's
Ronnie Denny: Mm.
Michael Shannon: not obvious. R_R_. Well it is to us, because we we worked worked here for years and we use that coffee machine, but it's doesn't have the colour scheme of of the of the company anywhere on it obviously it's just
Dan Thompson: Mm.
Michael Shannon: sil silver and black.
Christopher Deleon: That's true.
Dan Thompson: And the spaceship doesn't have the R_
Michael Shannon: No.
Dan Thompson: have a massive R_ and R_ down the side of it but
Michael Shannon: Mm.
Christopher Deleon: Doesn't
Dan Thompson: I still want one. Okay. Um I've just had a sign flashing up saying, finish the meeting.
Christopher Deleon: Yeah.
Dan Thompson: Uh.
Michael Shannon: Okay.
Dan Thompson: Yeah.
Michael Shannon: Right, well, I guess that's us.
Dan Thompson: Yeah. It's not telling it's not saying do anything in particular just yet. So maybe you should go back to your own offices.
Michael Shannon: Okay. Right.
Christopher Deleon: Are we taking these off?
Dan Thompson: Yeah. Yeah, it says you two. | Dan Thompson recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Christopher Deleon discussed different options for batteries, materials, and components, as well as restrictions involved in combining particular materials, components, and batteries. The team then discussed and decided what materials, components, and what type of battery to use in their product. The interface specialist presented examples of existing remotes on the market with good and bad layouts and stated what features the remote required. Ronnie Denny discussed research from trendwatching reports, finding that products now require technological innovativeness, a fancy look and feel, a spongy feel, and a fruit and vegetable theme. This lead to a discussion on whether to use Bluetooth or infra-red technology in remote. The team then discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the remote. | 1 | amisum | test |
Hugo Sanders: It's Play-Doh.
Arthur Putnam: Play-Doh's edible. Did you know that? It's definitely
Hugo Sanders: Because kids
Craig Bledsoe: I
Bradley Howard: I've,
Craig Bledsoe: used to eat
Hugo Sanders: yeah.
Craig Bledsoe: it.
Bradley Howard: I've definitely eaten it before. I didn't know was
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: edible.
Hugo Sanders: But um,
Arthur Putnam: It's
Hugo Sanders: it's it's
Arthur Putnam: it's
Hugo Sanders: made
Arthur Putnam: chew
Hugo Sanders: edible
Arthur Putnam: proof.
Hugo Sanders: 'cause, yeah. It's made edible 'cause kids eat it, and
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: if it's wasn't edible then Well, normal
Bradley Howard: Actually
Hugo Sanders: babies.
Bradley Howard: that makes sense, because I remember like, peopl I dunno if my Mom ever did it but I remember other people's Moms making like home-made Play-Doh where you just like make the colouring and make some sort of sort of
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: dough.
Hugo Sanders: Oh yeah it is, yeah. Oh yeah.
Bradley Howard: Mm-hmm.
Arthur Putnam: Right. Everybody everybody ready?
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Craig Bledsoe: Yep.
Arthur Putnam: Okay, let's have your um
Bradley Howard: We've got
Arthur Putnam: let's
Bradley Howard: some.
Arthur Putnam: get have the uh presentation?
Craig Bledsoe: We've
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Craig Bledsoe: got a cool prototype.
Bradley Howard: it's pretty exciting. So, everything uh that we wanted we wanted it to be ergonomic and to be made out of rubber, simple and easy to use,
Craig Bledsoe: Double curved.
Bradley Howard: yeah,
Arthur Putnam: Nice.
Bradley Howard: double curved, um but also something that was gonna jump out at people, something that would be different uh, separate it from the other remotes out on the market. So uh I think if you put this in the palm of your hand, you'll see what a nice thing we have going here.
Hugo Sanders: That is cool.
Bradley Howard: So, basically, if you hold it like that, the one on your thumb, yeah,
Arthur Putnam: Mm-hmm.
Bradley Howard: the thumb button is the power button.
Arthur Putnam: Mm-hmm.
Bradley Howard: Your index finger is channel up, middle finger is channel down, ring finger is volume up, your pinkie is volume down.
Hugo Sanders: What's the big blue thing?
Bradley Howard: That's the lock button, has a L_
Hugo Sanders: Oh
Bradley Howard: L_ on
Hugo Sanders: cool.
Bradley Howard: it and then the M_ is a mute button. And then it also has digit
Arthur Putnam: what button? Um.
Hugo Sanders: And
Bradley Howard: For muting
Hugo Sanders: mute.
Bradley Howard: the
Arthur Putnam: Oh
Bradley Howard: uh
Arthur Putnam: mute.
Bradley Howard: Um and then then you can also there's a numeric keypad on the top so you can key directly to the
Arthur Putnam: Okay.
Bradley Howard: to the channel if you want. So it's really basic functionalities as far as what keys are available, but we think it's very comfortable and very innovative and it looks different.
Arthur Putnam: That certainly does.
Bradley Howard: So all the, I mean the important keys are right at your f f you know right at uh at a convenient place for you to to access them.
Arthur Putnam: Mm.
Bradley Howard: So
Craig Bledsoe: Which
Bradley Howard: you
Craig Bledsoe: is
Bradley Howard: don't
Craig Bledsoe: ant
Bradley Howard: you
Craig Bledsoe: anti-R_S_I_.
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Mm.
Bradley Howard: It should be. And it's also conformable to the size of your hand. I mean if that's too big, it's a rubber remote,
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: so you can, you know
Arthur Putnam: 'S great.
Bradley Howard: change that.
Hugo Sanders: Oh it's
Bradley Howard: So
Hugo Sanders: so
Bradley Howard: d
Hugo Sanders: cute.
Bradley Howard: does that uh what mesh with what you guys were hoping and for and expecting or
Arthur Putnam: I
Bradley Howard: does it
Arthur Putnam: have one thing about it, but it's a small thing, but it'd mean we'd have to make a right-handed one and a left-handed one.
Bradley Howard: Ah,
Craig Bledsoe: Oh right, yeah.
Bradley Howard: that's good thinking, yeah.
Arthur Putnam: But, that's I don't see why that's not
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Arthur Putnam: possible.
Bradley Howard: if we build rocket ships why can't we build left-handed and right-handed
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: uh remotes.
Arthur Putnam: They make left-handed scissors, you know.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah,
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Hugo Sanders: but
Bradley Howard: I
Hugo Sanders: then
Bradley Howard: didn't I didn't think about that, but I'd yeah,
Hugo Sanders: but then you can learn to use your right h like I was if there's left-handers and right-handers family, what, they have two remotes?
Arthur Putnam: Yes
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah, I know I know people
Arthur Putnam: s
Craig Bledsoe: who have left-handed and right-handed people in the family and they all use the computer for the whole the same computer the fes family
Arthur Putnam: Mm.
Craig Bledsoe: and they have
Arthur Putnam: Sure.
Craig Bledsoe: a mouse,
Arthur Putnam: Sure.
Craig Bledsoe: and everybody is using right-handed mouse.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah, I'm sure they'll be able to
Bradley Howard: Uh-huh.
Hugo Sanders: I mean it's only pressing buttons, you don't have to do anything, you know, extraordinary. I think everybody can
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: press a button with their left and right hand so
Craig Bledsoe: Imagine d are you right handed?
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Craig Bledsoe: Imagine you're doing it with your left hand, I don't think it's too
Hugo Sanders: Yeah, it's not
Craig Bledsoe: have both uh
Hugo Sanders: Yeah. Have them in stock.
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: Make 'em more appealing as well.
Arthur Putnam: But um other than that, I mean uh and that's um, you know, that's just something, I think I think it's great, yeah, great idea.
Bradley Howard: Do you think it says R_R_?
Craig Bledsoe: I think it does.
Arthur Putnam: I think it's, well, if the R_R_ motto is, we bring
Bradley Howard: Fashion
Arthur Putnam: fashion
Bradley Howard: to electronics.
Arthur Putnam: to to electronics, I'd
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: say
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: that could be quite fashionable.
Bradley Howard: Yeah. And it's got the b the black and yellow and blue. Plus red, which
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: is sort of a a fruit and vegetable uh uh.
Craig Bledsoe: There you go.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: So that's that's our end of things wha uh That's
Arthur Putnam: Yeah, very good, yeah. It's come up with what we've you know, the things that's what we've what we were looking at doing, hasn't
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: it, all seems to be there. Well done.
Hugo Sanders: And all the playing around is uh
Arthur Putnam: Um before we move on
Hugo Sanders: Yeah, I'm just do you wanna plug in?
Arthur Putnam: I need that cable.
Hugo Sanders: Okay.
Arthur Putnam: Thank you. Yeah. Um. One thing I do need to do we need to look at, is the costs.
Bradley Howard: The costs, was that what you said?
Craig Bledsoe: Play-Doh is very cheap.
Arthur Putnam: Well, yeah.
Hugo Sanders: Mm. Play-Doh
Arthur Putnam: um
Hugo Sanders: won't last very long everybody'll go like, oops, it's gone.
Bradley Howard: But it's edible.
Hugo Sanders: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Craig Bledsoe: Chew proof.
Hugo Sanders: Well, they'll buy more of them if you eat them,
Bradley Howard: That was the main criteria from the last meeting, it had to be chew proof.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. Uh right. Okay, now I think we'll do this
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: I could do you know, I can do this
Craig Bledsoe: Oh
Arthur Putnam: o
Craig Bledsoe: ho-ho.
Arthur Putnam: on my own or I could do it with you, but it's just easy enough to go through it with you, so we're going for the kinetic power.
Craig Bledsoe: Yep.
Arthur Putnam: And the electronics, we decided on it being just a simple, the easiest thing that's inside it. Ooh. So the case, we've gone for the double curved. Um and it's made out of rubber. The interface is push-buttons. And button supplements well they're in diff special colours, aren't they?
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: So
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: special colours.
Hugo Sanders: It's better for
Arthur Putnam: Special form, yeah, they're a special form there in shapes and stuff.
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Hugo Sanders: And
Bradley Howard: I mean,
Hugo Sanders: special
Bradley Howard: these
Hugo Sanders: material.
Bradley Howard: these ones on the side are
Arthur Putnam: Yep.
Bradley Howard: curved kind
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: of, so
Arthur Putnam: Um. Are they made
Craig Bledsoe: Rubber.
Arthur Putnam: out of any special material? No they're not. They're not made out of wood or titanium or rubber or anything, they're just simple
Hugo Sanders: Well they're rubber,
Bradley Howard: The buttons
Hugo Sanders: aren't
Bradley Howard: are
Hugo Sanders: they?
Bradley Howard: rubber.
Arthur Putnam: Okay.
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Right. So let's see if that comes within budget. And it does. That is gonna
Hugo Sanders: We're under
Arthur Putnam: cost
Hugo Sanders: budget.
Arthur Putnam: uh Yeah. That's gonna cost ten ten Euro seventy cents a unit to make. And
Bradley Howard: That's
Arthur Putnam: our target
Bradley Howard: cool.
Arthur Putnam: was it had to come in at under twelve
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: fifty.
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: So,
Bradley Howard: And we're actua actually making a better profit than we expected.
Arthur Putnam: this is all very very good. The bosses will be very pleased. Okay, let's just save this so I can e-mail it to you. Uh. Save
Hugo Sanders: It's already
Arthur Putnam: it
Hugo Sanders: saved,
Arthur Putnam: in
Hugo Sanders: I think.
Arthur Putnam: save it in the uh my documents.
Arthur Putnam: Splendid. Okay. So uh, that's done with this with this um doodah, so you're. Gonna do
Hugo Sanders: Thank
Arthur Putnam: what you
Hugo Sanders: you.
Arthur Putnam: were gonna do,
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: your evaluation.
Hugo Sanders: Oh, yeah. This is where we all get to I get to write on the, oops, on the board. Right. Oh. 'S function
Arthur Putnam: F_ eight.
Hugo Sanders: Okay.
Arthur Putnam: I love the smell of that Play-Doh.
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Bradley Howard: Yeah, have some
Arthur Putnam: I
Bradley Howard: have some.
Arthur Putnam: cou.
Hugo Sanders: Okay. So, evaluation. We're gonna do it all together so we evaluate each criteria. I've got the criterias. And we have to do it on a scale of one to seven, one being true, so it's it's more like it's fits the criteria, and seven being as in it doesn't fit the criteria. And the criterias are, and I'll draw this up on the board so we have a box
Hugo Sanders: And this is false, this is just like to keep you informed. So seven's here and one's here and then you've got in the middle. So the first criteria. Do you all get what we're doing?
Bradley Howard: Mm-hmm.
Craig Bledsoe: Mm-hmm.
Hugo Sanders: Okay, cool. Okay, first criteria, look and feel. So the does remote look and feel fashionable to what we talked about? As it is it colour-wise and is it spongy? So what
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Hugo Sanders: mark should we
Arthur Putnam: I
Hugo Sanders: give
Arthur Putnam: would give it
Hugo Sanders: for
Arthur Putnam: a seven.
Hugo Sanders: that?
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: As in it's not.
Bradley Howard: Oh, sorry, one.
Arthur Putnam: Oh sorry,
Craig Bledsoe: A
Arthur Putnam: one,
Craig Bledsoe: one.
Hugo Sanders: A one a
Arthur Putnam: d
Hugo Sanders: one.
Arthur Putnam: yeah.
Hugo Sanders: So I'll just write criteria criteria one we get one. Second criteria, new technology. Have we implemented new technology? As in the new
Craig Bledsoe: Well,
Hugo Sanders: high-tech
Craig Bledsoe: the kinetic thing, yeah.
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: That was our main technological innovation w every everything
Hugo Sanders: So
Bradley Howard: else
Hugo Sanders: it's.
Bradley Howard: was fairly simple, but the fact
Hugo Sanders: So we'll give
Bradley Howard: that we
Hugo Sanders: it
Bradley Howard: used
Hugo Sanders: a
Bradley Howard: the kinetic energy was
Craig Bledsoe: Well
Bradley Howard: new.
Craig Bledsoe: so the um
Bradley Howard: It's ergonomic, but that's
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: not
Arthur Putnam: Yeah,
Bradley Howard: that's
Arthur Putnam: but that's not a technological
Bradley Howard: that's a design
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: thing,
Bradley Howard: that's
Arthur Putnam: that's
Bradley Howard: a des
Arthur Putnam: another
Bradley Howard: that's
Arthur Putnam: thing,
Bradley Howard: a design
Arthur Putnam: i that's
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: thing,
Arthur Putnam: another
Bradley Howard: yeah.
Arthur Putnam: marketing
Craig Bledsoe: True.
Arthur Putnam: thing.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: So on the technical side of it
Hugo Sanders: I'd
Arthur Putnam: it
Hugo Sanders: say it's about a a
Bradley Howard: It's
Hugo Sanders: twoish?
Bradley Howard: about
Craig Bledsoe: Two.
Bradley Howard: in the mid in
Hugo Sanders: Two.
Bradley Howard: the middle somewhere, maybe, yeah, I dunno.
Hugo Sanders: Three.
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: Maybe three, yeah.
Hugo Sanders: three. So criteria three is is
Arthur Putnam: Easy
Hugo Sanders: it easy
Arthur Putnam: to
Hugo Sanders: to
Arthur Putnam: use.
Hugo Sanders: use? I think it's a one,
Arthur Putnam: I'd
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: say
Hugo Sanders: I think.
Arthur Putnam: it's I wouldn't not if you're left-handed it's not. I would
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: give it a I would give it a two,
Hugo Sanders: Two, so it's
Arthur Putnam: 'cause i i it
Bradley Howard: Okay.
Arthur Putnam: i it i it is more geared for right-handed people than left-handed people, but
Hugo Sanders: But if
Craig Bledsoe: Mm.
Hugo Sanders: we make a right-handed and a left-handed then?
Bradley Howard: If we're gonna have one left-handed and one right-handed then I would give it a one, but otherwise
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: otherwise a two.
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Give it a t give it a two.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah, okay. 'Kay, criteria four is
Arthur Putnam: Cost.
Hugo Sanders: costs.
Arthur Putnam: It's come
Hugo Sanders: 's
Arthur Putnam: in under budget.
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: So
Hugo Sanders: great.
Arthur Putnam: that's a definite one.
Bradley Howard: That was great.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: Amount of buttons.
Hugo Sanders: Like the amount of buttons, 'cause people
Arthur Putnam: Contains
Hugo Sanders: like a lot le
Arthur Putnam: only the
Hugo Sanders: like
Arthur Putnam: necessary buttons.
Hugo Sanders: So it's a one?
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: Um criteria six. R_S_I_ is it good against? Yes.
Craig Bledsoe: Yes
Arthur Putnam: So
Hugo Sanders: Very
Arthur Putnam: it's
Hugo Sanders: good.
Arthur Putnam: anti-R_S_I_.
Craig Bledsoe: s
Hugo Sanders: It's
Craig Bledsoe: yeah.
Hugo Sanders: one. And criteria seven, which is the last one, does it get lost? Is it easy
Craig Bledsoe: It's
Hugo Sanders: to get
Craig Bledsoe: yellow.
Hugo Sanders: lost?
Arthur Putnam: I don't think it's gonna get
Bradley Howard: It is
Arthur Putnam: lost
Bradley Howard: very
Arthur Putnam: easily.
Bradley Howard: bright, yeah.
Hugo Sanders: No? But it is smallish.
Bradley Howard: It's not the kinda
Craig Bledsoe: Two.
Bradley Howard: thing that's gonna slip like between a couch cushion or something, you know. Maybe it will. Uh.
Craig Bledsoe: T
Hugo Sanders: Mm. I think i it would, could be, could get
Bradley Howard: You think
Hugo Sanders: lost.
Bradley Howard: it could lost
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: two.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Hugo Sanders: I mean it's
Arthur Putnam: I
Hugo Sanders: not
Arthur Putnam: mean it
Hugo Sanders: fully it's not fully like
Arthur Putnam: No,
Hugo Sanders: you can't
Arthur Putnam: I mean
Hugo Sanders: say I mean, it's not a one, definitely.
Arthur Putnam: I mean, you could
Bradley Howard: Okay.
Arthur Putnam: still flush it down the toilet theoretically,
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Arthur Putnam: but
Bradley Howard: anything, I mean. Okay. It's bigger than the average mobile, I guess.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: But, yeah, it can get lost.
Hugo Sanders: The mobiles get lost all the time.
Bradley Howard: Yeah. Okay, yeah, two is
Hugo Sanders: But then
Bradley Howard: fine.
Hugo Sanders: you ring 'em and you
Craig Bledsoe: Mm.
Bradley Howard: Yeah,
Hugo Sanders: find them.
Craig Bledsoe: Mm.
Bradley Howard: yeah.
Hugo Sanders: So
Arthur Putnam: Okay.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah. So, that's that. So that's the evaluation, so I'd say Yay.
Arthur Putnam: Alright it's
Hugo Sanders: It's
Arthur Putnam: all
Hugo Sanders: like
Arthur Putnam: all
Craig Bledsoe: We've,
Arthur Putnam: systems go.
Craig Bledsoe: we've done well.
Hugo Sanders: like
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: a number one. Um. Number one product.
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Hugo Sanders: All done, thanks.
Arthur Putnam: We can't
Hugo Sanders: We
Arthur Putnam: fail.
Hugo Sanders: fitted all the criterias. Yeah. Yeah, so
Arthur Putnam: Well done, Reissa.
Hugo Sanders: So that's that one.
Arthur Putnam: Okay, I I think um I just wanna put in as Project Manager the you know, little bit of praise for everybody here for how they've worked on it, you know, both individually and as a team. You know you've w everyone's come up with their own individual ideas in their own different departments, um and then come together and worked in, you know, integrally, you know, at the right times, psp, you know, especially you two. That's all, you know,
Bradley Howard: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: gone very very well and and and be you know, has been good communication going on.
Bradley Howard: Yeah, during our design I mean there was some s some heated heated discussion, but we we kept we tried to keep it cool and and just
Arthur Putnam: Did you
Bradley Howard: just
Arthur Putnam: have to go down to the the corporate squash court and bash a few
Craig Bledsoe: Well.
Arthur Putnam: balls about?
Bradley Howard: We just
Craig Bledsoe: You
Bradley Howard: had
Craig Bledsoe: know
Bradley Howard: to we just had to squeeze our product a little bit and
Arthur Putnam: Fantastic.
Bradley Howard: Now
Craig Bledsoe: It
Bradley Howard: you guys
Craig Bledsoe: is.
Bradley Howard: have been a a great team. Think we're the we're the envy of all
Hugo Sanders: been
Bradley Howard: the
Hugo Sanders: cool.
Bradley Howard: of all the other R_R_ teams,
Arthur Putnam: I think So I I, you know, and I think we've co we have come we've come up with something new, something that hasn't been done before, we haven't we're not just rehashing an old design.
Hugo Sanders: In four diff in in four meetings.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Hugo Sanders: Funny, all designer meetings could be this quick.
Arthur Putnam: this isn't a simulation, maybe this is actually so it's like
Bradley Howard: Yeah I think they're actually
Arthur Putnam: Sony
Bradley Howard: trying to find
Arthur Putnam: or
Bradley Howard: ideas
Arthur Putnam: someone
Bradley Howard: for
Arthur Putnam: like that
Bradley Howard: a ideal
Arthur Putnam: they're
Bradley Howard: remote.
Arthur Putnam: they're just, yeah, they
Hugo Sanders: They're using
Arthur Putnam: get
Hugo Sanders: our ideas.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. Yeah, two years' time this will be on the market. Ex exactly that product um thum we'll go, yeah, we designed that and no-one will believe us. But um
Bradley Howard: So at this stage, I mean, is this the last meeting of the project? We don't uh have
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: another one after it's gone gone
Arthur Putnam: No,
Bradley Howard: to marke market
Arthur Putnam: I think
Bradley Howard: or something?
Arthur Putnam: when this meeting's finished like
Craig Bledsoe: Y
Arthur Putnam: officially, there b we'll get a uh questionnaire
Craig Bledsoe: Oh really?
Arthur Putnam: to fill in. Or six,
Hugo Sanders: Just
Arthur Putnam: uh
Hugo Sanders: start summarising now. You can reply to the same message.
Arthur Putnam: I haven't got message.
Hugo Sanders: See summary, there. If you just reply to that one.
Bradley Howard: So there's no way to like predict what our 'Cause we had a we originally had a As far as our financial uh um goals, we had a specific number for profits that we wanted. It was fifty mil fifty million
Hugo Sanders: Was it was it fifty or five?
Bradley Howard: I don't remember. But there's not a way to compute that, mean, since we saved on the on the production cost, do we know how much we're making on profit?
Arthur Putnam: It
Hugo Sanders: Depends
Arthur Putnam: gets
Hugo Sanders: how
Arthur Putnam: handed
Hugo Sanders: much we sell.
Arthur Putnam: over to another department.
Bradley Howard: Uh.
Arthur Putnam: What our what our project was was to come up with the product,
Bradley Howard: Hmm.
Arthur Putnam: basically. the for the and just basically is it it come can is it within budget. When it c when it comes to all the other things of how to sell it and, you know, the b the profits and all that that's other departments it's another team that actually work out the mai the
Bradley Howard: But we have a vested interest
Arthur Putnam: oh
Bradley Howard: prof
Arthur Putnam: yeah,
Bradley Howard: profit
Arthur Putnam: the all
Bradley Howard: sharing.
Arthur Putnam: the guys in the profit sharing, yeah. Um. Yeah, that's it. You know, we've we've
Hugo Sanders: We finished an hour earlier.
Arthur Putnam: we've made i we've made we've designed the product, we've ma we've got the prototype, it's within budget, it's does everything that we wanted it to do. It's new, it's it's um something that uh that isn't out there already.
Bradley Howard: I think actually and one advantage of of this is that after the uh, you know, after this fad of fruit and vegetables passes this will still be c a cool
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Bradley Howard: remote, you know. We're not we're not you know, tying tying our cart to that one horse.
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. Well, this
Hugo Sanders: Definitely.
Arthur Putnam: is very marketable in that it is it's it's something that's kind of new and looks a bit quirky for people who want that, it's that it's um, hang on, I wrote it down here somewhere Oh no I thi I put it in one of my e-mails that I sent off. Um that, you know, it's marketable in the sense that it's whilst all these other remotes uh actually do give you repetitive strain injury, our one
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: does the complete opposite,
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: you know, so that's something that's new, which is one of the criteria they asked us to come up with something
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Arthur Putnam: with something new.
Bradley Howard: It make watching T_V_ healthy.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah, and
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: if you're not having a good time with the T_V_, you can f throw it about, you know. It's fine, it's kid proof.
Hugo Sanders: Just don't sh don't
Bradley Howard: Uh.
Hugo Sanders: throw it at any of the ornaments and break them.
Arthur Putnam: Well, you can break the ornaments, but you won't break that.
Hugo Sanders: No.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. So all in all, I think we've done very well.
Craig Bledsoe: Mm yep.
Arthur Putnam: Well done everybody.
Hugo Sanders: Yay.
Bradley Howard: Right, you too.
Arthur Putnam: Um. Drinks are on the company.
Craig Bledsoe: Cool.
Arthur Putnam: In the corporate bar that's next to the corporate swimming pool on the top floor that we're that've all just gained access to.
Bradley Howard: Mm.
Craig Bledsoe: Glad to hear that.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. That's it.
Bradley Howard: That's it.
Arthur Putnam: Well, as far as I t as far as I know. Um.
Hugo Sanders: Yep. We haven't got the five minute left thing yet.
Arthur Putnam: No. Anyone wanna
Hugo Sanders: Mm
Arthur Putnam: play I spy?
Hugo Sanders: mm.
Bradley Howard: I guess it's probably better that we wrap it up than have five minutes of silence. Should we call the day then?
Arthur Putnam: Yeah, I guess. I mean we're gonna get asked to fill out another questionnaire.
Bradley Howard: Uh, right.
Arthur Putnam: Um. It's probably gonna be the same as one we've done before.
Bradley Howard: Mm-hmm.
Hugo Sanders: In
Arthur Putnam: But
Hugo Sanders: project.
Arthur Putnam: I'm not the authority to say that it is. Um how does everyone feel about the technology that's been used in this? The sort of using of the the pens and writing on these special pads and all that?
Hugo Sanders: I love it. I love it. I think it's cool. Being all wired up and a vibrating pen and it's cool. Being watched. Um
Bradley Howard: Your moment to shine.
Hugo Sanders: Wow.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. I thi you know, I'd I'd n yeah, as we said earlier, I've not never seen that before. something that t the whiteboard
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: thingy, that's great. Um, but a p a pen with a camera on it, I don't think it's such a new thing. I mean it's i or in such a new idea. It would be different if it was sort of hand writing recognition stuff,
Craig Bledsoe: Yeah.
Arthur Putnam: but as it's not it's literally that'll come up on a computer screen as a picture file rather than actual text.
Hugo Sanders: Mm.
Bradley Howard: Right, I think they do want to do hand writing recognition
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: on that, it's just
Arthur Putnam: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: the first step.
Arthur Putnam: Mm.
Hugo Sanders: Logitech.
Bradley Howard: I guess we should end this, since we're off off topic.
Hugo Sanders: Yeah.
Bradley Howard: So. Shall we
Hugo Sanders: Meeting adjourned.
Bradley Howard: Right.
Arthur Putnam: Yeah. | The interface specialist and industrial designer presented their prototype to the team and discussed the features the prototype contained. In presenting the prototype, the issue arose that the prototype could only be used with the right hand. The team then looked at the production costs of the remote and found that their remote was actually under budget and that they could retain all the features they had originally decided upon without exceeding the target cost. The team evaluated the prototype on the basis of its look and feel, technological innovation, ease of use, costs, and its ability to be misplaced. Overall, the prototype performed very well in meeting all the criteria of the evaluation. The team then evaluated the project process, finding that they we
re happy with their product and their performance in the project. | 1 | amisum | test |
David Ceraos: Are you sure I got it all head's kinda small.
Scott Lankford: How're
David Ceraos: Okay.
Scott Lankford: we placed in terms of the alright.
David Ceraos: We're okay?
Miguel Vera: I should probably try sit straight.
Michael Allen: Like that? Okay, cool.
David Ceraos: We're good?
Miguel Vera: Oh, I think mine's fallen off.
Scott Lankford: It fell That's why.
David Ceraos: I guess it's gonna be hard to drink coffee. Mm. Uh okay.
Scott Lankford: Ah.
Michael Allen: Okay? Right, so I'm just gonna start this PowerPoint real quick.
Miguel Vera: Wow.
Michael Allen: Yeah, PowerPoint.
David Ceraos: Very official.
Michael Allen: Yeah, well, you know,
Michael Allen: Yeah I kinda like this I'm kinda getting into it. Right. Um. So just to kick off the meeting basically um so we're working now for a real reaction, this is uh so it right. Just got an agenda to set out what we're gonna try to accomplish in this particular first meeting. Um We're gonna just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another um then we're gonna start talk a little bit about tool training. Essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we haven't tried out yet, the whiteboard. Um we've got a general plan for the project how we're gonna go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up. Um I guess you know game or something um in real life um so yeah basically I want to I'm just gonna you got of course you can discuss that, I'm thinking about um uh proposing that since we've got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just don't ask, don't tell. Um so um if you say something about marketing, right, sorted, um
David Ceraos: You're just
Michael Allen: y
David Ceraos: gonna
Michael Allen: is
David Ceraos: believe David Ceraos, we'll go from there.
Michael Allen: Exactly.
David Ceraos: Fair enough.
Michael Allen: Um I mean obvi if if you guys if if at the same time if you like logically if something doesn't like if I'm like we're gonna sell a remote control that's the size of this paper book you know um you say like well that doesn't seem like such a good idea because of X_ obviously go with it. I mean we'll discuss it but I'm not gonna ask do you know that or uh yeah it seems like
David Ceraos: Prove it yeah,
Michael Allen: yeah yeah exactly
David Ceraos: okay.
Michael Allen: so, 'cause we're what we're sort of role playing is y g yeah you're gonna tap into your own knowledge as well um. And that's the same for your when we do introductions I mean um and you talk about your background you know have fun, you know maybe you went to um uh you know maybe i you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say you went to Harvard or something like that, why not, you know you can this is you know I guess we can have a little bit of fun with it. So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical?
Miguel Vera: Oh yeah, that's fine.
Scott Lankford: Sure.
David Ceraos: Works for David Ceraos.
Michael Allen: Sweet. Cool. So I guess that that we're totally we're making a remote control which is
Miguel Vera: Right.
Michael Allen: thrilling um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the in real life I dunno if you guys uh checked the um uh the corporate website. Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible, that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something. So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way. Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics. And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um um the other designer that I can't remember, the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um Miguel Vera hey
Scott Lankford: Mm.
Michael Allen: right on
David Ceraos: There
Michael Allen: alright,
David Ceraos: you go.
Michael Allen: getting into it um to guide David Ceraos and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be you're g you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time. And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good, you know like um I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um, yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand, or something like that. Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell David Ceraos tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible um to try t of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th the white board um basically uh just to get used to it, I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around um and just write down I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could, not all five, if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh, we skipped introductions. Nice. I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um. I'm Marty, um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So
David Ceraos: I'm Sarah, I went to Michigan, and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing,
Michael Allen: Expert
David Ceraos: Expert.
Michael Allen: Don't
David Ceraos: Expert.
Michael Allen: play yourself down.
David Ceraos: Fine.
Michael Allen: Expert
David Ceraos: That's David Ceraos.
Scott Lankford: I'm Ron. I uh once upon a time studied in Victoria and I am Scott Lankford.
Miguel Vera: I'm Nathan, I'm from California, and I'm here doing a Masters degree in social anthropology.
Michael Allen: Where did you go to uni Nathan?
Miguel Vera: U_C_L_A_.
Michael Allen: Oh brilliant.
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Michael Allen: Cool. My little brother goes there.
Miguel Vera: Okay.
Michael Allen: Right so desert island
David Ceraos: So.
Michael Allen: discs. Yeah.
David Ceraos: So do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you gonna tell us?
Michael Allen: Well
David Ceraos: I'm
Michael Allen: I'll t
David Ceraos: waiting
Michael Allen: i
David Ceraos: to
Michael Allen: no
David Ceraos: know.
Michael Allen: no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you
David Ceraos: Uh
Michael Allen: guys are, I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent but
David Ceraos: Fair
Michael Allen: there's
David Ceraos: enough.
Michael Allen: some other options, if you're a T_V_ slut like I am like Smallville terrible television
David Ceraos: Oh,
Michael Allen: show but I
David Ceraos: Smallville.
Michael Allen: happen to love it, it's rubbish but I love
David Ceraos: I
Michael Allen: it.
David Ceraos: went to high school with Tom Willing actually.
Michael Allen: T the the main c the
David Ceraos: The
Michael Allen: main
David Ceraos: guy.
Michael Allen: character? Wow.
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: Is he a wanker?
David Ceraos: Yeah. Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless.
Michael Allen: He looks really tall, like he's gotta
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: be like six six.
David Ceraos: He is a big guy.
Michael Allen: Yeah.
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: Um okay so I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley?
David Ceraos: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Vera: Mm-hmm.
Michael Allen: Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead. It's a r
David Ceraos: Good call.
Michael Allen: Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway
David Ceraos: Interesting.
Michael Allen: yeah. Yeah, you're like press and it's. Kinda cool. You'll see. Alright so um whoever wants to get up next, you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want.
David Ceraos: I guess I'll go next then.
Scott Lankford: Go
Michael Allen: Right
Scott Lankford: for
Michael Allen: on.
Scott Lankford: it.
David Ceraos: Okay. Don't wanna lose all my mikes, plugged in here. Okay. This is basically just pen practice huh?
Michael Allen: W
David Ceraos: Okay. Oh you're much taller than David Ceraos so I'm gonna write down here. Um. Right now I'm listening to a lot of somebody nobody's ever heard of, Chris Bathgate,
Michael Allen: Mm.
David Ceraos: local Michigan folk singer,
Michael Allen: Nice.
Miguel Vera: Wow.
David Ceraos: really lame and uh uh what else did I bring with David Ceraos? Probably classical, to totally geek
Michael Allen: Okay
David Ceraos: it out,
Michael Allen: yeah yeah.
David Ceraos: yeah I think. And my family guy D_V_D_s
Michael Allen: Well
David Ceraos: but
Michael Allen: yeah.
David Ceraos: we don't need to write that one down.
Michael Allen: Oh, family
David Ceraos: So
Michael Allen: guy. Isn't h has
David Ceraos: yeah.
Michael Allen: h do you watch the new season?
David Ceraos: No. Are you getting it online, or is it
Michael Allen: I
David Ceraos: on
Michael Allen: think I'm gonna
David Ceraos: sky?
Michael Allen: start downloading it yeah.
David Ceraos: Yeah, that'd be nice.
Scott Lankford: Alright. Think I'm just gonna put down one uh one C_D_.
Scott Lankford: Anybody?
Michael Allen: Mm-mm.
Miguel Vera: No.
Scott Lankford: No?
David Ceraos: 'Fraid
Scott Lankford: no?
David Ceraos: not.
Scott Lankford: Afro beat orchestra, very cool.
Michael Allen: Afro beat orchestra?
Scott Lankford: Yeah.
Michael Allen: Very
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: cool.
Scott Lankford: Fift
Miguel Vera: Sounds
Michael Allen: Mm.
Scott Lankford: S
Miguel Vera: nice.
Scott Lankford: they like fifteen members from Brooklyn. I'm hoping to go to the concert in Belgium, in Brussels in
Michael Allen: Wow.
David Ceraos: Exciting.
Scott Lankford: April first. Yeah. It's supposed to be
David Ceraos: That'd
Scott Lankford: in Brussels
David Ceraos: be.
Scott Lankford: anyways. Um thing I love about Edinburgh
David Ceraos: Oh. I didn't even read those. Oops. I shouldn't admit
Michael Allen: That's
David Ceraos: that.
Michael Allen: what a PowerPoint presentation
Miguel Vera: Oh,
Michael Allen: is for. It's
Miguel Vera: wow.
Michael Allen: they're designed specifically to ignore. I
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: it's th brilliant.
David Ceraos: It's the five by five, I can't read that much.
Michael Allen: Ah yes yes yes okay I see that. Vomit. Yes.
David Ceraos: Yeah oh
Michael Allen: Street pizza. It's so brilliant.
Scott Lankford: Love
David Ceraos: it's so horrible.
Scott Lankford: um
Michael Allen: I've seen more urine in this city
David Ceraos: Oh
Michael Allen: than
David Ceraos: my
Michael Allen: ever
David Ceraos: God.
Michael Allen: before, I
David Ceraos: Seriously?
Michael Allen: mean
Scott Lankford: I just came from Glasgow and I'm um happy to say that
Miguel Vera: There's
Scott Lankford: there's
Miguel Vera: more
Scott Lankford: the
Miguel Vera: vomit
Scott Lankford: there's
Miguel Vera: there.
Scott Lankford: the same quantity approximately. Um.
Michael Allen: It's
Scott Lankford: I w
Michael Allen: so minging.
David Ceraos: It really
Michael Allen: Uh.
David Ceraos: is
Scott Lankford: Does uh yeah. Ready?
Miguel Vera: Alright. Yep.
Scott Lankford: Minging? Nice.
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: I'm going
David Ceraos: Slide
Michael Allen: local.
David Ceraos: it in there.
Michael Allen: Going
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: local. I have to be here for three years so I might
David Ceraos: Yeah
Michael Allen: as
David Ceraos: fair
Michael Allen: well get
David Ceraos: enough.
Michael Allen: the terminology right.
David Ceraos: I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning
Michael Allen: Oh,
David Ceraos: into one of those people,
Michael Allen: have you been home yet?
David Ceraos: no.
Michael Allen: They'll be like, say something British, and you're like
David Ceraos: I
Michael Allen: oh shut
David Ceraos: know.
Michael Allen: up family.
David Ceraos: I
Scott Lankford: Uh-huh.
David Ceraos: know.
Miguel Vera: Um
David Ceraos: Oh it should be interesting. Wait until I
Miguel Vera: Let's
David Ceraos: tell them I'm
Miguel Vera: see.
David Ceraos: not coming back. They're gonna love that one.
Michael Allen: Right you s you're gonna stay here?
David Ceraos: Probably. Or at
Michael Allen: Wow.
David Ceraos: least get a work visa for a while and then decide. 'Cause
Michael Allen: Bad
Scott Lankford: Nice.
Michael Allen: religion?
Miguel Vera: Yeah,
David Ceraos: nice.
Miguel Vera: up listening to.
David Ceraos: Of
Michael Allen: Yeah
David Ceraos: course.
Michael Allen: yeah, yeah.
David Ceraos: Oh,
Miguel Vera: And
David Ceraos: now I can think of so
Miguel Vera: so
David Ceraos: many other
Miguel Vera: there
David Ceraos: ones.
Michael Allen: Well yeah that's why
David Ceraos: That's how it works.
Michael Allen: yeah.
Miguel Vera: Something I miss about my hometown.
Michael Allen: I miss coffee.
Miguel Vera: Burritos
David Ceraos: Mm.
Scott Lankford: Nice.
Michael Allen: Burritos.
David Ceraos: Oh
Miguel Vera: that cost less than
Michael Allen: Oh yeah two two
David Ceraos: Any
Miguel Vera: eight
Michael Allen: bucks.
Miguel Vera: Pounds.
David Ceraos: thing that are like free.
Michael Allen: Where are you from in California by the way?
Miguel Vera: I grew up in San Diego, but
Michael Allen: Did you really? What
Miguel Vera: yeah
Michael Allen: part?
Miguel Vera: um La Jolla, P_B_.
Michael Allen: Yeah I'm from San Diego as well.
David Ceraos: Nice.
Michael Allen: Yeah oh
Miguel Vera: But
Michael Allen: man.
Miguel Vera: really uh I last lived in San Francisco, I haven't lived in Cali well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen.
Michael Allen: Going to s like North Carol I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s in San Diego.
Miguel Vera: It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them.
David Ceraos: It must make all the difference.
Miguel Vera: Yeah, it really does.
Michael Allen: Well it's it's i there's other things too there's you just can't
David Ceraos: Ah.
Michael Allen: place it like I when I went to school in the U_ in Santa Barbara which is central California the Mexican food is okay, it's just not good like
Miguel Vera: Mm.
Michael Allen: and yeah it's like two bucks, like literally two bucks for this massive
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: I miss yeah good call on that.
Miguel Vera: Yeah. Where you from in
David Ceraos: Mm.
Miguel Vera: San Diego?
Michael Allen: Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego, I live like five minutes from the zoo.
Miguel Vera: Okay.
Michael Allen: So North Park actually if you want to get real
Miguel Vera: Yeah,
Michael Allen: specific.
Miguel Vera: my grandparents lived on um thirty second.
Michael Allen: Yep.
Miguel Vera: Close t uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop
Michael Allen: Yes.
Miguel Vera: is, and
Michael Allen: On university, yeah.
Miguel Vera: Cafe Forte
Michael Allen: Yeah it's actually like literally half a mile from my house.
Miguel Vera: Cool.
Michael Allen: Yeah, pretty cool. Small world
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Michael Allen: as we were discussing before. Especially when we're all from the same general region. Right so okay, success on the whiteboard.
David Ceraos: There you
Michael Allen: You can harness
David Ceraos: go.
Michael Allen: the awesome power
Miguel Vera: Wow.
Michael Allen: a little bit introductions we talked about some of our C_D_s and things we like about the city you know, I think we'll Um right so moving on to not fun stuff uh project finance. Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um. This is what the finance department has told David Ceraos, the C_F_O_ but I don't know, I'm not sold on this, it's pretty dear, I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for David Ceraos.
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: Um so what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it, the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it. Eur internationally. So um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably.
Miguel Vera: Okay.
Michael Allen: Um so something that could do
David Ceraos: Makes
Michael Allen: N_T_S_C_
David Ceraos: sense.
Michael Allen: as well as PAL as well as various other formats like if it's gonna control D_V_D_s
David Ceraos: Uh.
Michael Allen: but um you know I'll leave that to you guys but that's something that i i it is gonna be an international sold thing. Um but we wanna try to make it for twelve fifty. So we wanna try to make a hundred percent profit on it if we can. Um s right so um just to close up, I'm not sure how much time I've used mm next time right Project Manager, sorted. Um. Is uh we'll meet in another half an hour or so um and I'd like the um Industrial Designer to get ge think about what needs to be done, like what the basic function of it. Um U_I_D_ well yeah you right g your assignments are up there and you'll also get s assignments from in your email as well more spec specifics on what do do. Um mm basic and um so I need you to tell us what um we what the user's gonna
David Ceraos: What
Michael Allen: want.
David Ceraos: they're looking for.
Michael Allen: So actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have, you know like uh
David Ceraos: And negotiate
Michael Allen: so
David Ceraos: that.
Michael Allen: yeah well it is
David Ceraos: Uh.
Michael Allen: and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions, before we get started?
Scott Lankford: I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control, we can't kind of build it into other uh products.
Michael Allen: You mean to like
Scott Lankford: For instance like a mobile phone or something
Miguel Vera: Mm.
Scott Lankford: like that.
Michael Allen: Hmm.
Miguel Vera: Sounds interesting.
Michael Allen: Yeah.
David Ceraos: I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So
Miguel Vera: Maybe our personal coach will
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Scott Lankford: Or or
Miguel Vera: have something
Scott Lankford: you know
Miguel Vera: to say about
Scott Lankford: can
Miguel Vera: that.
Scott Lankford: we produ can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less?
Michael Allen: Well,
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: have a think about it. I mean
Scott Lankford: Yep. Okay.
Michael Allen: I'm I'm certainly op it seems like yeah it
David Ceraos: W
Michael Allen: it seems like
David Ceraos: yeah.
Michael Allen: it's certainly do-able isn't it. I mean um or if we can't have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of useful
Scott Lankford: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Michael Allen: function. The clapper. No I mean no, good idea, good idea. We'll see what
Miguel Vera: Maybe
Michael Allen: see what
Miguel Vera: a remote with changeable faces, like the faces that you can buy for phones.
David Ceraos: I like
Scott Lankford: Nice.
David Ceraos: the
Michael Allen: Uh-huh
David Ceraos: little cover
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
David Ceraos: thingies.
Michael Allen: y I like that
Scott Lankford: Hot.
Michael Allen: Yeah. That's true, I guess we we probably have some time, maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do, go back to um I don't really have any. Let David Ceraos bring up something about our basic goals here, what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement. Ts ts ts
Michael Allen: Yeah. Not so much.
David Ceraos: Hmm.
Michael Allen: All right we'll find them, we're on our own.
Scott Lankford: Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all
Michael Allen: Yeah
Scott Lankford: here?
Michael Allen: yeah let's do it, let's do.
Scott Lankford: S does anybody have any initial ideas?
Michael Allen: I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause
David Ceraos: Good idea. Start your minutes.
Michael Allen: Yeah I mean
David Ceraos: Um
Michael Allen: oh yeah right. So initial ideas.
David Ceraos: Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal right,
Michael Allen: Yeah.
David Ceraos: we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things, as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do, like your microwave or your front
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
David Ceraos: door or like to have everything on one thing, but then, I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons, you
Miguel Vera: S
David Ceraos: can't tell
Michael Allen: Mm-hmm.
David Ceraos: what they do.
Miguel Vera: smaller's better. Simple.
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Scott Lankford: But I'm thinking
David Ceraos: Specific.
Scott Lankford: I'm thinking kind of P_D_A_ uh design so touch screen design rather
David Ceraos: Okay.
Scott Lankford: than button
Miguel Vera: Oh
Scott Lankford: so
Miguel Vera: right.
Scott Lankford: that you
Miguel Vera: That'd
Scott Lankford: can
Miguel Vera: be different.
Scott Lankford: kind
David Ceraos: Interesting.
Scott Lankford: of flip around all sorts of different things.
Michael Allen: Yeah that's slick isn't it. I mean like stylist yeah like a just
David Ceraos: True.
Michael Allen: a yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this, perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: uh size and functionality.
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: Um
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: and
David Ceraos: We
Michael Allen: we
David Ceraos: want
Michael Allen: also
David Ceraos: it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
David Ceraos: able to
Scott Lankford: Too
David Ceraos: tell
Scott Lankford: confusing.
David Ceraos: them apart,
Miguel Vera: It's
David Ceraos: that
Miguel Vera: gonna be
David Ceraos: whole
Miguel Vera: too complicated,
David Ceraos: yeah.
Miguel Vera: too crowded with buttons and things.
Michael Allen: I'm also gonna note
David Ceraos: Hmm.
Michael Allen: for future reference this idea of um so you like maybe like an L_ like a touch screen type of remote?
Scott Lankford: Mm-hmm.
David Ceraos: Mm.
Scott Lankford: Possibly.
Michael Allen: I don't think one exists.
David Ceraos: An interesting option.
Michael Allen: Be a
Miguel Vera: Needs
Michael Allen: good idea.
Miguel Vera: it needs one outstanding
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Miguel Vera: feature to set it apart from all the
David Ceraos: Definitely.
Miguel Vera: other remotes.
Michael Allen: Yeah all the other universal remotes. Um I don't know if there's such a thing out there, I guess we could do some uh do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are um multi-format like um you know PAL, N_T_S_C_, region one
David Ceraos: Right.
Scott Lankford: I'm pretty sure there is. I mean I
Michael Allen: Okay.
Scott Lankford: I have a friend who has a P_D_A_
Michael Allen: Okay.
Scott Lankford: that he just
David Ceraos: That
Scott Lankford: points at his telev any television he wants and
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Scott Lankford: it'll figure out the the specifications of it and will control it
Michael Allen: Interesting.
David Ceraos: Awesome.
Scott Lankford: um
Michael Allen: Okay.
Scott Lankford: so I th I assume that that can be done with uh kind
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: Okay.
Scott Lankford: of around the world.
Michael Allen: Okay. Um all right. So. I li I'm liking that idea, this idea of a touch screen remote with multi-format features.
David Ceraos: Mm-hmm.
Michael Allen: Um.
Miguel Vera: Right.
Michael Allen: Um. Let's see.
Miguel Vera: I think, making it out of a nice material would be very important, because so many of those remotes that you see, these universal
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Miguel Vera: remotes look so cheap and
Michael Allen: Mm.
Miguel Vera: low quality.
David Ceraos: Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick, would be important. And I don't know, like, there's such a problem with losing them, that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen
Miguel Vera: Mm.
David Ceraos: business is only one more thing to lose, so we're gonna have to be careful with
Scott Lankford: Oh.
David Ceraos: what like Just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool.
Michael Allen: Uh let's see. Um.
Scott Lankford: I like the idea of the uh multi plate.
Michael Allen: Yeah
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: yeah okay.
David Ceraos: Fi
Scott Lankford: In
David Ceraos: b like what
Scott Lankford: in
David Ceraos: are they called, those face plate things? Isn't
Michael Allen: Think
David Ceraos: there
Michael Allen: they're
David Ceraos: a
Michael Allen: just
David Ceraos: name
Michael Allen: called
David Ceraos: for them?
Michael Allen: face plates?
David Ceraos: Are they?
Michael Allen: I don't know.
Miguel Vera: something,
David Ceraos: I dunno.
Miguel Vera: uh
Scott Lankford: I like.
Miguel Vera: we'll have to come up with a name,
Scott Lankford: We
Miguel Vera: patent
Scott Lankford: should
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Scott Lankford: c
Miguel Vera: it.
Scott Lankford: we should come
David Ceraos: Something
Scott Lankford: up with
David Ceraos: really
Scott Lankford: a fuzzy
David Ceraos: cool.
Scott Lankford: one as well. For
David Ceraos: Leopard
Scott Lankford: those cold
David Ceraos: print
Miguel Vera: Leopard
Scott Lankford: winter
David Ceraos: or something.
Miguel Vera: print.
Scott Lankford: days.
Michael Allen: Um.
David Ceraos: Hmm.
Miguel Vera: I think, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device, maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote.
David Ceraos: True.
Michael Allen: Mm. But if we're bundling it unless we're selling their telly with the remote.
David Ceraos: Right.
Miguel Vera: Mm.
Michael Allen: Um
Scott Lankford: Well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it.
Miguel Vera: True.
Scott Lankford: If you're
David Ceraos: True.
Scott Lankford: not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either well there used to be those whistling devices but that's a
David Ceraos: Right.
Scott Lankford: little bit annoying.
Michael Allen: Cou could we not do something where like just a little lit like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page. Kinda
Scott Lankford: Th
Michael Allen: like
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: how on a lot of um uh cordless regular
Scott Lankford: Yeah.
Michael Allen: phones,
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Michael Allen: you have a page button and it goes,
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: could we do something like that?
Scott Lankford: That's cool.
Miguel Vera: I think
David Ceraos: Probably.
Miguel Vera: so.
Scott Lankford: I think we could design into
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Scott Lankford: that.
David Ceraos: Good.
Michael Allen: Um yeah I think this material quality as well like I guess what we can think about what kind of um uh you know Apple 's been really successful with
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: this surgical white kind of business or this
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: sleek kind of
David Ceraos: And
Miguel Vera: Mm.
Michael Allen: you
David Ceraos: that
Michael Allen: know
David Ceraos: titanium the new silver sleek ones that's last couple of years,
Michael Allen: Yeah.
David Ceraos: very much so.
Scott Lankford: Curves.
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: Yeah. We do have the minimum am amount I mean we were talking finances I dunno, selling a a forty Pound remote would h or a forty Dollar remote, twenty five Euro remote would be pretty you know
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: it's pretty expensive so maybe we might wanna trade off some of the features for a lower price. Without without getting into that whole like you know go down to bargain store remote you know bargain store universal
David Ceraos: Right.
Michael Allen: remote that's black
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
Michael Allen: and you know m massive, some kind of
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: I dunno a balance there in somewhere.
David Ceraos: Definitely.
Michael Allen: But um have a think about what we can do, have a think about what we want to do,
David Ceraos: Yeah.
Michael Allen: how we're gonna sell it and
David Ceraos: Or if
Michael Allen: um
David Ceraos: you our users in mind, like these grandmas are not gonna be into this whole new let's design, no it's they're used to the buttons so we'll have to be careful of exactly who we're marketing this to,
Miguel Vera: Yeah.
David Ceraos: and
Michael Allen: Mm.
David Ceraos: who we're gonna be able to get it out of.
Miguel Vera: 'S true.
David Ceraos: But
Scott Lankford: We're talking twenty five Pounds or twenty five Euros?
Michael Allen: Twenty five
David Ceraos: Euros.
Michael Allen: Euros.
Scott Lankford: Slight difference I guess.
Michael Allen: Yeah. They're all weaker than they're all stronger than the Dollar.
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: Although, computer parts, all if you're gonna upgrade your computer, buy it in the States. Like um do you guys know Fry's? Huge
Scott Lankford: No.
Michael Allen: computer
David Ceraos: Mm-mm.
Michael Allen: uh electronics store? They serve um right they sa tha s they will sell things overseas so
David Ceraos: Mm.
Michael Allen: you can buy stuff in America and have it shipped over for like twenty thirty Pounds about. Right so um let's go ahead and wrap that up here for now, I'm gonna put these initial ideas that we've got in the um project documents, so if you guys wa need a reminder about what we've talked about
David Ceraos: Okay.
Michael Allen: um the
Miguel Vera: Okay.
Michael Allen: different you know kind of trade-offs that we've got and the other ideas, you can consult them at your leisure. And uh right so thanks for that. Let's just uh head back to work on what we were talking about bef uh goi h h getting into.
David Ceraos: half an hour?
Michael Allen: Um. Yes.
David Ceraos: 'Kay. Perfect.
Michael Allen: Thanks guys.
David Ceraos: Cool.
Scott Lankford: Thank you.
Miguel Vera: Alright. | Michael Allen presented the project to the other participants by discussing the aim of creating a new, fashionable remote control device and defined the roles and tasks of each participant. The group introduced themselves to each other and trained themselves how to use the whiteboard tools. Michael Allen discussed the financial goals of the project, including the projected profit aim and price point for the device. Michael Allen gave each participant their assignments. The group then began a discussion of their initial ideas about the remote control and possible features. Michael Allen announced that he would make a report containing the discussion of the group's initial ideas about the device. | 1 | amisum | test |
Winfred Wright: Okay. Hi everybody and welcome to our kick-off meeting for our new product that we're gonna be designing. Um I'm Mandy and I'm Winfred Wright. And I know all your names again, Courtney,
Michael Banks: Yep.
Winfred Wright: Fenella and Amber.
Alexander Turner: Yep.
Winfred Wright: Alright. Okay, so first let's go through this PowerPoint. I wonder what button I press?
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Just do it on the arrow.
Winfred Wright: Yeah, or how about I just click? Okay, here is our agenda for this meeting. Um we're gonna start with our opening which was our introductions. We're gonna know other a bit better. Um tool training, we're going to, I guess, figure out what to do on this project with our individual roles. Um we're gonna make a project plan and then have some time for discussion and close up the meeting. Okay, here is our project. We're gonna make a new remote control that's um original, trendy and also user-friendly. And how we are going to do it is each of us is going to um We're gonna have discuss the functional design first, how is it gonna be used, what's the actual goal here, it has to operate T_V_, blah blah blah. And we're going to do individual work on that and then meet. Same thing with conceptual design. Just the basic overview of the project and then we're going to do individual work, meet. That's pretty much the the whole process for today. And then the detailed design, just more in-depth, get the actual schematics of the remote. Okay. Alright. First we're gonna start off by using our tools. And the whiteboard thing, do you guys wanna give that a try even though the ink wasn't working or do you wanna do it on here.
Alexander Turner: I think we should forgo the
Michael Banks: We
Alexander Turner: can't
Michael Banks: could
Alexander Turner: actually see what we're.
Michael Banks: Yeah, we could on.
Winfred Wright: Alright, let's go forward then. Um right now so we're all gonna draw our favourite animal and then sum up our favourite characteristics of that animal. Even if you are not a good drawer like Michael Banks. Alright.
Alexander Turner: Artistic skills, nil.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Fine.
Winfred Wright: Um.
Winfred Wright: Bless you.
Michael Banks: Oh, thanks.
Alexander Turner: I draw like I'm in grade five.
Winfred Wright: Oh do I.
Winfred Wright: 'Kay, about one more minute.
Winfred Wright: Okay. Okay. And who would like to start us off?
Michael Banks: I'll go.
Winfred Wright: Alright.
Michael Banks: Um this is my picture. I drew fish I like fish, because uh, you know, their whole water-vascular system thing. It's pretty cool, and um they've got a pretty good habitat and they are pretty sometimes, sometimes vicious but that's okay. Yeah.
Winfred Wright: Only if they're piranhas.
Michael Banks: Yeah, they they're easy, you know. Yeah.
Winfred Wright: Alright. Who wants to go next?
Alexander Turner: I'll go. I drew a kitty. It's pretty much impossible to tell that's a cat, but
Michael Banks: No I
Antonio Kirkpatrick: No,
Alexander Turner: I
Michael Banks: I
Antonio Kirkpatrick: I kne
Michael Banks: see
Alexander Turner: love
Antonio Kirkpatrick: I
Michael Banks: it.
Winfred Wright: No,
Antonio Kirkpatrick: knew.
Alexander Turner: cats.
Winfred Wright: it looks like a cat.
Alexander Turner: I love cats because they're independent, uh they pretty much know what they want, they get it, they move on.
Winfred Wright: I love cats, too.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Winfred Wright: I'm a cat person.
Michael Banks: I'm allergic to cats.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Ah.
Winfred Wright: Uh.
Alexander Turner: I'm allergic to cats, too.
Michael Banks: Oh, okay.
Winfred Wright: If
Antonio Kirkpatrick: In
Winfred Wright: you're
Antonio Kirkpatrick: my next
Winfred Wright: around one
Antonio Kirkpatrick: life.
Winfred Wright: I had a roommate who was um allergic, but if she was around my cat forever she became used to
Michael Banks: Yeah,
Winfred Wright: it, you
Michael Banks: yeah,
Winfred Wright: know,
Michael Banks: if you're
Winfred Wright: it's weird.
Michael Banks: around them for a long period of time
Alexander Turner: I still
Winfred Wright: Okay.
Alexander Turner: can't sleep with them in my room.
Michael Banks: Oh, yeah, this summer I, oh I had to live with cats. It was crazy. Yeah.
Winfred Wright: Okay, Fenella?
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Um, I drew a badger.
Michael Banks: Cool.
Alexander Turner: Yay.
Winfred Wright: Badger.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Well, yeah.
Winfred Wright: Good choice. Why a
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Uh
Winfred Wright: badger?
Antonio Kirkpatrick: I dunno, they're grumpy and nocturnal and
Alexander Turner: Are you trying to suggest something?
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Well, a little bit like the Yes. Um. And then, if you know Wind in the Willows badger.
Michael Banks: Oh, okay.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Yeah and then uh I don't know if you know Brian.
Winfred Wright: Alright.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Um, that kind of books. Badgers are cool in that one too.
Winfred Wright: Okay. And I'm last. 'Kay. Look at my sad sad
Michael Banks: No,
Winfred Wright: giraffe.
Michael Banks: that's good.
Winfred Wright: No, no, no, it ends up looking like some kind of a dinosaur, but whatever. I don't know even much about giraffes, but I just love the way they look. They're just such odd creatures, you know. I I like that they're so unique and individual, I guess. I don't know much about their behaviour or anything, though. Only seen a couple
Michael Banks: You
Winfred Wright: in
Michael Banks: don't
Winfred Wright: zoos.
Michael Banks: really have to, I
Winfred Wright: Yeah,
Michael Banks: mean,
Winfred Wright: but you can
Michael Banks: if you
Winfred Wright: appreciate
Michael Banks: like 'em
Winfred Wright: the way they look. Okay. Alright. Guess we're getting straight back into business here. Um the selling price for our remote is going to be twenty-five Euro, and our profit aim is fifty million Euro. We're going to make this an international product marketed in the States, in Europe, in Asia. And um our production cost to make that profit is gonna be a max of twelve fifty Euro per remote. Okay. So we're gonna talk for a little while. Um here are some topics that we might be able to discuss. Expe our experiences with remote controls um, our first ideas about this new remote, anything that you can bring to the table for this project. So.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Now?
Winfred Wright: Yeah. You wanna start us off? Anybody have anything to offer?
Alexander Turner: Well, we wanna make a multifunctional remote, right?
Winfred Wright: Right.
Alexander Turner: One remote for everything.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: And
Michael Banks: Right.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: everything being Wait,
Alexander Turner: Um.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: we have what, sound system, T_V_, D_V_D_, V_H_S_, uh
Alexander Turner: I think they'll be phasing
Antonio Kirkpatrick: TiVo?
Alexander Turner: V_H_S_
Michael Banks: Yeah, TiVo.
Alexander Turner: out shortly.
Winfred Wright: TiVo.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: But it's still there, so
Alexander Turner: Okay.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: if po if we're gonna do it
Michael Banks: It needs to be compatible 'cause universal remote controls are never universal.
Winfred Wright: They're never universal. That's right. Esp e especially if you buy a a not big product, D_V_D_ player, say, usually it doesn't work
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Or if
Winfred Wright: if
Antonio Kirkpatrick: it's
Winfred Wright: it's
Antonio Kirkpatrick: not
Winfred Wright: not
Antonio Kirkpatrick: like a
Winfred Wright: one
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Sony,
Winfred Wright: of the
Antonio Kirkpatrick: if it's like
Winfred Wright: Yeah.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: a I
Winfred Wright: Yeah.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: don't know.
Winfred Wright: Something
Alexander Turner: So
Winfred Wright: from
Alexander Turner: we'll have
Winfred Wright: Sam's
Alexander Turner: to figure
Winfred Wright: club.
Alexander Turner: it how to cover all the different variances in signals.
Winfred Wright: Yeah.
Michael Banks: And what we need an insanely good instruction booklet, because you always have to reconfigure all your
Winfred Wright: Yeah.
Michael Banks: contraptions to go with the remote anyways.
Winfred Wright: 'Kay, and um another thing that I think is important is the d the design of the product, how it feels in your hand. If it's just flat and kind of boring th those don't Nobody wants to buy those any more. They want the ergonomic ones.
Michael Banks: They want like the flashy
Winfred Wright: Yeah.
Michael Banks: lights. Oh like this came
Winfred Wright: Ones
Michael Banks: from Las
Winfred Wright: that
Michael Banks: Vegas.
Winfred Wright: ones that look high-tech, too.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: But at the same time are simple.
Michael Banks: Mm
Winfred Wright: Right.
Michael Banks: yeah.
Winfred Wright: So that
Alexander Turner: What
Winfred Wright: people
Alexander Turner: about something
Winfred Wright: like my mother
Alexander Turner: with the curvature
Winfred Wright: can use it.
Alexander Turner: like that matches the curvature of a hand?
Winfred Wright: Yeah. 'Kay. Anybody have any experiences with remote controls that they can remember that
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Just bad ones.
Winfred Wright: Yeah. That's true.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Um.
Alexander Turner: What kinda battery would we want to use? Because battery
Antonio Kirkpatrick: D
Alexander Turner: changing is
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Double
Alexander Turner: usually
Antonio Kirkpatrick: A_.
Michael Banks: Double A_.
Alexander Turner: Okay.
Winfred Wright: Do some of them use triple A_s though?
Michael Banks: Yeah some use triple A_s.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Some
Michael Banks: So
Winfred Wright: Okay.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: but
Michael Banks: double or triple?
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I guess then it's If we need to do triple A_ we can, but most people usually have double A_s around.
Winfred Wright: Okay. Yeah. But that has to do with the size of it too.
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Right.
Alexander Turner: Yeah.
Winfred Wright: Well, w as long as we know that issue is
Michael Banks: Yeah, if we
Winfred Wright: Here
Michael Banks: want it
Winfred Wright: we
Michael Banks: to
Winfred Wright: can
Michael Banks: be more thin, then we'd probably wanna go with a triple
Winfred Wright: Triple
Michael Banks: A_.
Winfred Wright: A.
Alexander Turner: Can
Winfred Wright: But
Alexander Turner: you with a small lithium battery?
Winfred Wright: it's okay, we don't have to decide about it now, just as long as we remember battery type and size is important. Hey. Anything else? Alright. Moving along. Oh, we're closing the meeting. Next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes. Um the I_D_, which is who? Okay, you're going to think about the working design. What do you think that means? Okay. And U_I_D_,
Antonio Kirkpatrick: Mm-hmm.
Winfred Wright: the technical fun functions design, making sure it does everything that we need the remote to do, the functionality of it, operating all those different things. Okay. And the marketing person, that's Courtney, is going to do the user requirements specification. I guess that means specifying um what exactly the user is going to be looking for. Right?
Michael Banks: Right.
Winfred Wright: I would think so. Okay. And you're gonna get more specific instructions emailed to you in just a little while. Okay, so does anybody have anything they wanna say before we close the meeting? Okay. This meeting is officially over. | Winfred Wright introduced the project to the group and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. She then introduced a tool training exercise to acquaint the group with the meeting-room tools and to help them get to know each other. Winfred Wright then presented the project budget to the group and presented the projected profit aim, the production cost, and the price point of the device. The group then began a discussion about features of remote controls and their own experiences with them. They discussed making the remote universally compatible and ergonomically-designed, and types of batteries to use. Winfred Wright instructed Alexander Turner to work on the internal working design of the device. Antonio Kirkpatrick was told to work on the technical function design, and Michael Banks was instructed to research the needs of users. | 1 | amisum | test |
Michael Clayborn: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations.
Brent Dow: We have a I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah, I've got
Michael Clayborn: I
Jacob Pfaff: one
Michael Clayborn: see,
Jacob Pfaff: too.
Michael Clayborn: right. That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um W I I got um or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time
Brent Dow: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: and in
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. So in
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm
Michael Clayborn: fact it actually f we won't be forestalled in a sense. Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that?
Brent Dow: Uh we didn't, no.
Anthony Gunther: No.
Michael Clayborn: Right
Brent Dow: I d I didn't
Michael Clayborn: and
Brent Dow: personally.
Michael Clayborn: the corporate
Jacob Pfaff: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: image was the uh final thing. So I I got that in email form. Um. Right okay. So I guess if we go ahead with the uh with the three presentations. So we'll start with yourself
Brent Dow: Okay
Michael Clayborn: on
Brent Dow: that's
Michael Clayborn: the
Brent Dow: fine.
Michael Clayborn: basis that uh
Brent Dow: I'll just um I'll grab the wire out the back of this one.
Michael Clayborn: Sorry, yep.
Michael Clayborn: Oh.
Anthony Gunther: What is it
Brent Dow: I'm not quite
Anthony Gunther: I think
Brent Dow: sure
Anthony Gunther: you've got
Brent Dow: how
Anthony Gunther: to do
Brent Dow: it
Anthony Gunther: um control F_ eight.
Brent Dow: Control Doesn't seem to be quite working at the moment.
Anthony Gunther: Shift F_ eight.
Brent Dow: Alt function F_ eight. Again not doing anything.
Jacob Pfaff: There's usually a little thing in the top right for the Oh
Brent Dow: Oh.
Anthony Gunther: Ah
Jacob Pfaff: hang
Anthony Gunther: there,
Jacob Pfaff: on, it's just
Anthony Gunther: it's doing
Jacob Pfaff: coming
Anthony Gunther: something.
Jacob Pfaff: on.
Brent Dow: pressed about five times now.
Brent Dow: Okay, that's Jacob Pfaff.
Brent Dow: Okay, um I have to go again.
Michael Clayborn: it going?
Brent Dow: Hopefully that should be it this time.
Brent Dow: Okay, I think we're there. That's good. Okay, um Okay I'm gonna be looking at the working design. Um of the of the remote control. Um I've just got three sections, first is the research I made on the on the remote control itself um. And then that involves the components required in it and the systems uh design of the actual the actual remote. Um so having researched the existing models within the market, um I found my research off the internet. Um I've established what the components required for the remote control to function, actually are. And then also the methods in which these components interact together for the remote to actually do what you want it to do and how it connects with the television. Um the basic components are an energy source which I guess um in most existing models would be a battery supply. Whether that'll be sort of two batteries, four batteries, um it may vary. We then have
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Brent Dow: the user interface, which is basically the like the the buttons on the actual remote. Um the various functions used for changing channel, uh channel up and down, volume, things like that. Um there's also a chip inside the remote which does all the computer type things. And then the sender, which um is usually, I've found, an infra-red device which sends a signal to the actual television. Um and the last part is receiver which is important in the system but is not actually part of the remote itself, because that's obviously found in the television. Um I'm gonna have to actually draw on the board because uh it was a little tricky on PowerPoint to get this working, so. I'll just go through there. S um um do we have a cloth to wipe this down with, or? Oh
Anthony Gunther: I
Brent Dow: I'll
Anthony Gunther: think
Michael Clayborn: Uh
Anthony Gunther: it's
Brent Dow: j
Anthony Gunther: that
Michael Clayborn: there's
Anthony Gunther: little
Michael Clayborn: the rubber on the right,
Brent Dow: Oh I see.
Michael Clayborn: I think.
Brent Dow: Oh okay. I'll get rid
Michael Clayborn: it's
Brent Dow: of
Michael Clayborn: magic.
Brent Dow: the bear Okay that's great. Okay, so we start off with a um battery suppl Uh no, a power supply which we'd probably get it's probably gonna be the battery. Um we then have a particular button, which may be that's obviously there's lots and lots of different buttons. Um but this is how the basic system works. Um that sends after you press that that sends the message to the chip, which um then sends It sort of interprets which button you've pressed and then sends the appropriate message to the sender.
Brent Dow: Um. So that's. That's the remote in itself, that's the components of the remote and how they work together. So this is the uh user interface. Um this is the chip itself, which then, and that's the that's the infra-red sender. And then on the separate thing we have on the on the television we have a a receiver. And the sender sends a message to the receiver. 'Kay.
Michael Clayborn: So the the top bit's the power source, yes?
Brent Dow: Ah yes, that's the power source. Um. going on to personal preferences, I've said that battery seems the best option for the actual remote, just because of the size. You don't want a a cable attached to the remote otherwise it's not it's not really a remote. Um and then the sender, and infra-red um has been used quite successfully. If the battery's on reasonable power, they always seem to work fairly well. You don't have to be point directly at the television itself.
Michael Clayborn: So the
Brent Dow: Um
Michael Clayborn: battery is the in the sender.
Brent Dow: Yes. 'Kay and that's it for the moment.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: Okay. So, now more design.
Anthony Gunther: Right. Thank you. Mine's not quite as complicated as all that.
Michael Clayborn: That's what we like to hear.
Anthony Gunther: Did I press function? Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Is it control function
Anthony Gunther: Oh.
Michael Clayborn: ei Oh, th
Anthony Gunther: Um.
Michael Clayborn: there you
Anthony Gunther: Okay
Michael Clayborn: go.
Anthony Gunther: so I'm gonna talk a bit about the technical functions design. I'm Louisa, Anthony Gunther, as you know. Um so the m is to send signal the to the television set, so that a desired function is performed. Um an example of the function could be to change the volume up or down, uh so obviously you need two different buttons for that. Um to change the channel, either by pressing the number that you want or by channel up or down. Um to switch the television on or off, maybe a standby button. Um here are two example remotes. Um by the look of it they both have um kind of play and fast forward, rewind functions, so I think they incorporate a kind of video function which we won't have to worry about. Uh but as you can see, the left remote is quite um quite busy looking, quite complicated. Um whereas the right remote is much simpler, it looks much more user friendly. Um so my personal preference would be the right remote. So, it's got nice big buttons, it's got a very limited number of buttons. Um they're nice, kinda clearly labelled. Um I like the use of the kind of um symbols like the triangles and the squares and the arrows as well as the words on the um kind of play functions and all that. So it's very very user friendly, and it's got a little splash of colour. Could maybe do with some more colour. Um.
Michael Clayborn: Well there's a couple of things there. Um we have to remember that we have our own um logo and colour scheme. So basically we'd have to uh we'd have to be putting that on um the the product.
Anthony Gunther: Hmm. Do we get to see that? Will you be presenting
Michael Clayborn: I haven't
Anthony Gunther: that in a bit?
Michael Clayborn: as yet, no. But uh I got uh I got an email that basically said to uh make sure that uh whatever device we come up with at the end of the day had to incorporate um the corporate colour and slogan. So uh I'm guessing that uh uh I notice on the bottom there it's got uh what's that? A_P_O_G_E_E_ that might be the corporate colour scheme, although the only the only colour I can see in that is the red.
Anthony Gunther: Hmm.
Brent Dow: Would you be able to get rid of the the extra buttons here, the the sort of circular section, because that seems to be for a video as well. So we could dispense with that little bit as well and just get it down to just the numbers and the volume.
Anthony Gunther: What
Brent Dow: Possibly?
Anthony Gunther: do you mean by the circular section? Like
Brent Dow: J
Anthony Gunther: all
Brent Dow: yeah
Anthony Gunther: of
Brent Dow: yeah
Anthony Gunther: that
Brent Dow: yeah
Anthony Gunther: bottom
Brent Dow: j
Anthony Gunther: bit?
Brent Dow: yeah just this little bit is that I think that's still um a video
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Brent Dow: remote part, so maybe we could get rid of that as well.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah. And I don't really
Michael Clayborn: Well
Anthony Gunther: think that
Michael Clayborn: b uh
Anthony Gunther: you need
Michael Clayborn: w
Anthony Gunther: nine numbers. I mean how often do you use seven, eight and nine? I think just one to six and then channel up and down should be enough.
Michael Clayborn: Well
Anthony Gunther: Like
Michael Clayborn: th
Anthony Gunther: how
Michael Clayborn: the
Anthony Gunther: often do
Michael Clayborn: on
Anthony Gunther: you hit
Michael Clayborn: the
Anthony Gunther: nine?
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: Well uh for for general television purposes obviously you have channels one to five at this point in time, and we'd have to have some room for uh future such channels.
Brent Dow: It's
Michael Clayborn: But
Brent Dow: just people are used to seeing
Michael Clayborn: but
Brent Dow: that, so if we didn't have them then
Michael Clayborn: But,
Brent Dow: they might think it's
Michael Clayborn: well possibly but the the other thing is that with um the current expansion of uh channels uh in the process of taking place, certainly the button up and down, but uh I mean how many channels do we have to um actual television channels do we have to uh prepare for? I would have thought that uh it's forever expanding and at the moment we've got although you've onl you've got the five standard, you've got the B_B_C_ have come up with a further six and uh there's uh
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: I don't know exactly how many channels there are on uh when you take into account uh Sky and various
Brent Dow: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: other um various others. So
Anthony Gunther: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: I would've thought that we wouldn't, you know, rather Okay, if the time of flicking from one to other, but presumably it'll take a second 'cause you have to be able to stop it. Maybe you could have a fast forward on the on the channels that w and then you could dispense with more otherwise. Y you'd want you'd want to get fairly quickly to the channel that you wanted.
Anthony Gunther: Um some remotes have kind of favourite options where if you always flick from channel one to channel six, um if that's a favourite you just like by-pass
Michael Clayborn: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: two to five.
Michael Clayborn: Yeah, I s I suppose in a sense you could have um if you've got a hundred channels then if you had sort of an easy way of getting rather than having to go one to a hundred, you could go one to one to ten, ten
Anthony Gunther: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: to twenty and then have a second button to get
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: you to the actual channel you want and that would cut down your time.
Anthony Gunther: Mm. Um.
Michael Clayborn: Anyway.
Anthony Gunther: But I think a lot of um like Cable and Sky and stuff, that would be tuned to one channel, and then you'd have another remote for all of those channels. Like
Brent Dow: Okay,
Anthony Gunther: to get to
Brent Dow: yeah.
Anthony Gunther: fifty five and the higher numbers
Michael Clayborn: Whatever.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Okay. Okay. Limit the number of buttons, user friendly.
Anthony Gunther: But I suppose nine's not really excessive.
Brent Dow: I suppose
Anthony Gunther: I
Brent Dow: with
Anthony Gunther: suppose
Brent Dow: nine
Anthony Gunther: it does
Brent Dow: you've
Anthony Gunther: make
Brent Dow: got
Anthony Gunther: a
Brent Dow: the
Anthony Gunther: good
Brent Dow: the
Anthony Gunther: pattern.
Brent Dow: like the last one which makes the tenth means you uh it's like uh multiples you can put them together so you can make any number. So with that we'd kind of by-pass
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Brent Dow: any problems with
Michael Clayborn: Well that's true, yeah, you
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: could get fifty by five and a zero or whatever,
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: that that makes sense.
Brent Dow: 'Cause that facilitates having all the numbers you could ever need.
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Brent Dow: Um.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: Does.
Anthony Gunther: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: So w so what was the circular thing that you were
Anthony Gunther: Um I think that's just for a video, so we wouldn't need any of that at all.
Brent Dow: So we could get it
Michael Clayborn: If
Brent Dow: down
Michael Clayborn: it's
Brent Dow: to
Michael Clayborn: just
Brent Dow: what?
Michael Clayborn: for T_V_, which is what it is at the moment.
Anthony Gunther: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: So we get to How many buttons have we got? We've just got ten, eleven twelve th I guess.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: Um which isn't really too many. That'll be quite easy to make a user guide for a fourteen
Michael Clayborn: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: button remote.
Michael Clayborn: Well we've we've got um that it's remote for T_V_ only otherwise project would become too complex with uh which would endanger the time to market
Brent Dow: 'Kay.
Michael Clayborn: was one of the considerations. I'm I don't know
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: d did you have that information behind the marketing, or was
Jacob Pfaff: Um
Michael Clayborn: I meant to give you that information?
Jacob Pfaff: I'm not sure. I had I've had some market information, but
Michael Clayborn: Right.
Jacob Pfaff: not from the company, no.
Michael Clayborn: Right, okay, so basically time to market seems to be important, therefore
Brent Dow: 'Kay.
Michael Clayborn: speed of delivery. We've only got about another four hours left.
Anthony Gunther: Okay, so is everyone happy with that?
Brent Dow: Ah yes yes,
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Brent Dow: that seems good.
Anthony Gunther: Right well that's the end of my presentation.
Jacob Pfaff: 'Kay. I'm gonna pull this off.
Brent Dow: I think if you just give it a second to
Michael Clayborn: Yeah,
Brent Dow: maybe
Michael Clayborn: I think
Brent Dow: catch
Michael Clayborn: she said twenty
Brent Dow: up.
Michael Clayborn: seconds to um
Jacob Pfaff: Uh-huh. Okay.
Brent Dow: I'm sure we'll have by the end of today.
Jacob Pfaff: I'll give it another go.
Jacob Pfaff: there. Right, we've done some research into the functional requirements that people want out of their remote control. And first off we should state that th the remote control's for controlling the T_V_ and um how do people use it? We asked them sort of which buttons were useful for them. Um how d how does a remote control look and feel for them, and what improvements would would they like to remote control. And we did that by sort of giving them a questionnaire that we'd prepared and asking them to fill in the answers. And three quarters of them found that remote controls are ugly and that a sort of even higher proportion would spend more for a sort of s uh a fancier remote control And that of all the buttons on the remote control, the sort of setting buttons for sort of the picture picture and brightness and the audio settings, um they weren't used very often at all. People concentrated on the channel buttons and the volume buttons and the power buttons. Uh we also asked them about speech recognition uh for remote control. And young people were quite receptive to this, but as soon as we got sort of over about into a thirty five to forty age forty five age group and older, people people weren't quite so keen on speech recognition. There's a lot more th there's a lot lot more older people who didn't know whether they wanted it or not as well. Um we also asked what frustrated people about remote controls and the number one frustration was that the remote was lost somewhere else in the room and that they couldn't find it. And the second second biggest frustration what that if they got a new remote control, it was difficult to learn um all the buttons and all the functions, and to find your way around it. Okay, so My personal preferences from the marketing is that we need to come up with some sort of sleek sort of good looking high high-tech A design which looks high-tech, basically. Um and that we should come up with fewer buttons than most of the controls on the market, and we should sort of concentrate on the channels and sort of power, and also volume and that sort of thing, as as Louisa said. Um we could maybe come up with a menu, a sort of a an L_C_D_ menu for other functions on the remote control. That's worth thinking about. Um and maybe we could think about speech recognition as well, because um sort of young people are perhaps the ones that are gonna buy buy our new product if we aim it at sort of you know sort of a high-tech design. That that might be the market that we're we're looking for. And we could maybe think about using speech recogniti recognition as a way to find the remote control if it's lost in a room, rather than sort of um having it to speech recognition to change the channels. 'Cause there's a problem with that in that the television makes noise, so it could end up talking to itself and changing its channel.
Brent Dow: Mm.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay um, and that's the end of the slide show. That's it. Cool.
Anthony Gunther: Do
Michael Clayborn: What was
Anthony Gunther: a
Michael Clayborn: that
Anthony Gunther: lot
Michael Clayborn: last
Anthony Gunther: of um
Michael Clayborn: wee bit there?
Jacob Pfaff: Um about
Michael Clayborn: Speech
Jacob Pfaff: speech
Michael Clayborn: recognition,
Jacob Pfaff: recognition? Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: But that was only for young people that preferred it, older people didn't.
Jacob Pfaff: Youn young people pref Yeah, they s they said that they'd be interested in a remote control which offered that possibility and as you go up through the age groups, people got less and less interested in sort of a a remote control that you could talk to, so.
Brent Dow: No what I maybe think is um it seems the technology would be quite advanced for that and they might end up costing more than our twelve fifty budget for
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Well that's
Brent Dow: for
Michael Clayborn: right.
Brent Dow: the speech
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: recognition.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: Um. And possibly the thing about the about the remote being lost we could have You know with your mobile phone, you lose that and you can ring it. Maybe we can have some kind of sensor which is kept somewhere where you can some kind of buzzer system between the two.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So you can press a button which is always kept in one place and then it
Jacob Pfaff: Uh-huh.
Brent Dow: maybe buzzes to
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: somewhere else, wherever the remote actually is.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah, we'd have t that would mean we'd have to put two products together as well, which
Brent Dow: That is true, yes.
Jacob Pfaff: which again would probably be a bit expensive,
Brent Dow: Hmm.
Jacob Pfaff: but
Anthony Gunther: There's key rings um that you kind of whistle at or clap at, I can't remember,
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: and then they whistle back, or something like that.
Michael Clayborn: Sounds
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: That'd
Michael Clayborn: reasonable.
Anthony Gunther: probably be really simple, they're cheap.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So I guess it'd be something we could
Michael Clayborn: So
Brent Dow: like attach to the or like the same technology could be put inside the
Michael Clayborn: Well
Brent Dow: inside
Michael Clayborn: if
Brent Dow: the remote.
Michael Clayborn: you're trying to avoid having a second product 'cause obviously you could have a second product that gave you the right pitch which would set the remote off to say here I am sort of thing, you know without sound recognition. But if you I know. Um I was gonna say a sharp noise, you know a clapping of hand or whatever. You'd want to try and av just have the one product that
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: if
Brent Dow: Yeah if we if we
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: could have it in the actual remote like everything in one
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: one device.
Michael Clayborn: Yeah. Um I dunno um talking about vo I mean obviously if you've got voice recognition then you can do it in that way because it'll recognise the voice and you can give it a command, a set command whatever that happened to be.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: But you've then got the point if if you're not going with uh voice recognition then
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: you could have an option to turn it off. Or Perhaps, um.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So that would solve the problems with the T_V_ kind of speaking to the remote and changing its own channels.
Michael Clayborn: Mm. So uh Any sugges Well, any conclusions?
Jacob Pfaff: Um would it take quite a while to sort of develop the speech recognition software in the remote control?
Brent Dow: Mm.
Jacob Pfaff: Considering
Michael Clayborn: Well if it does then we can't.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: It's that simple, because we've got uh th th three um primary um uh requisites from uh from and email uh that was sent to Jacob Pfaff whereby we had The design logo was one, which we've already mentioned. We've got um the remote was only for the television and not for because that would make it too complex and we have to get it market quickly.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: And the uh third thing was that um teletext uh as far as uh the management is concerned, um is becoming dated uh due to the popularity of the internet.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: So
Brent Dow: 'Kay.
Michael Clayborn: that means that uh so these are the sort of three um extra parameters that have been put on this uh project.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: So we're being focused effectively directly at a television and
Brent Dow: Yes.
Michael Clayborn: it seems to Jacob Pfaff that the management is uh wanting us to go down a narrow path and not opening out. So anything that uh is to be added, such as voice recognition et cetera
Brent Dow: Has to be simple
Michael Clayborn: has
Brent Dow: enough to
Michael Clayborn: to be very simple and has to be very quick because time to market is is critical.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: S
Brent Dow: I suppose if we could get something in which was quite quick and simple that would give us an advantage over the other remotes.
Michael Clayborn: It would.
Brent Dow: Um.
Michael Clayborn: But probably quick and simple is primary rather than
Brent Dow: 'Kay.
Michael Clayborn: added extras. Added extras would be nice, but the primary consideration is to get the project finished within uh this short time window,
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: which effectively now is sort of four hours. So and if and we've gotta get to the end. Uh d d I think I think first and foremost we've gotta get to the end and then get to the end with um added extras if possible.
Brent Dow: Mm-hmm.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Jacob Pfaff: So
Michael Clayborn: Right okay, uh so I need to Right. So I don't know how long we have left of our uh time. But we have to
Jacob Pfaff: About
Michael Clayborn: make
Jacob Pfaff: five
Michael Clayborn: the decisions
Jacob Pfaff: minutes.
Michael Clayborn: on uh the remote control functions and how we were planning to proceed so that at the next uh meeting each person that's got a a a task to do is clear
Brent Dow: Yes.
Michael Clayborn: from this meeting what that task is.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: Um.
Michael Clayborn: We'll also know w when the next meeting is I um so we'll know how long we've got to complete that task. And then we can report back at the next meeting and say right okay yes, we've achieved this or we haven't achieved this, this is how far we've progressed. Does
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: that make reasonable sense?
Brent Dow: Yes that
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Brent Dow: seems
Jacob Pfaff: Okay,
Brent Dow: right.
Jacob Pfaff: yeah.
Michael Clayborn: So we have to come effectively to the decision on the remote functions so that you can decide what you're gonna be doing. And if dur between the time of this meeting finishing and the next meeting starting, if you get any additional information that uh only you have at
Brent Dow: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: that point in time you'd think would be relevant to other people in terms of their des decision making um process, then we should communicate that as quickly as possible
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: and not wait until the next meeting. Do it via
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: the email
Jacob Pfaff: Yep.
Michael Clayborn: so that rather than coming you know If you get the information just before the next meeting that's fine. Come along with it in the next meeting, we can discuss it then and
Brent Dow: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: take whatever action is appropriate. But if you get it well before the next meeting, let everybody else know 'cause that might have an impact on their uh
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: on what they come up with effectively at the next meeting. Okay.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: Right, is there
Jacob Pfaff: So do we need to decide on the functions now? S
Michael Clayborn: I would guess so.
Anthony Gunther: Well I think it'd be really easy and it'd be a big advantage if we did have some sort of um kind of whistle back
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: kind of function.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah and
Anthony Gunther: 'Cause that'll solve kind of the frustration of losing it.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah and that was that was the number one sort of frustration
Michael Clayborn: Yep.
Jacob Pfaff: that people said, so. I don't think there's anything else on the market that does that, so.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah. I don't really know about the voice recognition thing.
Michael Clayborn: I w well uh i
Brent Dow: Maybe we should concentrate just on the whistle back function
Michael Clayborn: Something
Brent Dow: at the moment,
Michael Clayborn: simple.
Brent Dow: and if something
Michael Clayborn: Uh if
Brent Dow: comes
Michael Clayborn: if
Brent Dow: back
Michael Clayborn: our primary consideration is to get it there in time, time's short, you want something to meet the major concerns of the consumer
Anthony Gunther: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: so that we can have
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: that as a selling point for the product, something that's quick and simple.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: So,
Anthony Gunther: And that
Michael Clayborn: sounds
Anthony Gunther: wouldn't put
Michael Clayborn: good.
Anthony Gunther: off the kind of older generation either, 'cause everyone can whistle or clap, and they wouldn't have to be kind of scared of this new technology.
Michael Clayborn: Well, so maybe
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: a clap rather than a whistle would be On the basis that if we've got if we're catering to the whole age range, you want something that's easy to do, now something that doesn't
Jacob Pfaff: No
Michael Clayborn: like
Jacob Pfaff: not
Michael Clayborn: whis
Jacob Pfaff: everyone
Michael Clayborn: uh
Jacob Pfaff: can whistle, can
Michael Clayborn: Well
Jacob Pfaff: they, though?
Michael Clayborn: I I I don't know. Well If you think that more people can whistle than clap then that's fine, then go for that option, but if I would
Jacob Pfaff: No,
Michael Clayborn: have
Jacob Pfaff: clapping,
Brent Dow: I'd
Michael Clayborn: thought
Brent Dow: go
Michael Clayborn: that
Brent Dow: more
Michael Clayborn: more people
Jacob Pfaff: I
Brent Dow: Yeah,
Jacob Pfaff: think clapping,
Brent Dow: f more
Michael Clayborn: could
Brent Dow: for
Jacob Pfaff: yeah.
Brent Dow: clap.
Michael Clayborn: clap rather than whistle,
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: so uh so clap option.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Anthony Gunther: 'Kay we've already decided that we don't need a teletext button, haven't we?
Michael Clayborn: Uh.
Anthony Gunther: Is that one
Michael Clayborn: Ef
Anthony Gunther: of
Michael Clayborn: effectively
Anthony Gunther: the
Michael Clayborn: that's what the that's what they're saying, that uh
Anthony Gunther: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: if uh if people are now using the internet then you don't need teletext, so
Jacob Pfaff: Taking out teletext,
Michael Clayborn: so
Jacob Pfaff: okay.
Michael Clayborn: take out teletext.
Brent Dow: Did we decide
Anthony Gunther: Right.
Brent Dow: on having the ten um the ten numbers and then the
Anthony Gunther: Yeah, I think so,
Brent Dow: the
Anthony Gunther: so
Brent Dow: little
Anthony Gunther: zero
Brent Dow: digit
Anthony Gunther: to
Brent Dow: next
Anthony Gunther: nine.
Brent Dow: to it which kind of
Jacob Pfaff: Mm.
Brent Dow: enabled you to put them together.
Jacob Pfaff: I think nowadays you can just get ones where it gives you a sort of a second or two to press another number,
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Jacob Pfaff: so you can press any two and it'll sort of put them together.
Brent Dow: Okay, ten numbers and then some kind of device to allow uh
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: I'll put delay to allow um
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: multiple numbers. Or multiple digits.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: Did we decide anything about um the other functions? As in setting the audio and tuning it and stuff like that? You had an had an idea about the menu?
Jacob Pfaff: Uh we could possibly put an L_ a sort of a L_C_D_ menu in, but that again is probably an expense that
Brent Dow: But just thinking um people probably I mean you don't have you only have to probably tune in the T_V_ once, but you have to be able to tune it that once.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So and if finally the T_V_ breaks, you get a new one, you're gonna have to be able to tune it. You can't really avoid
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: that.
Anthony Gunther: Hmm.
Michael Clayborn: No.
Brent Dow: Except the new digital markets which do it by themselves.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So that'll
Michael Clayborn: But
Brent Dow: be in
Michael Clayborn: the but that's relying on the television market changing
Brent Dow: Yes.
Michael Clayborn: to an automatic and if it is at the moment, that's fine. But at the moment it's not, so it seems to Jacob Pfaff that you have to have a device that caters, 'cause
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: otherwise it would make it uh your device would become inoperable,
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: or only operable in certain circumstances
Brent Dow: Yeah
Michael Clayborn: and
Brent Dow: yeah.
Anthony Gunther: Mm.
Michael Clayborn: the idea is to have an international market which is
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: And it's also m it's the the product we've got is something that's at the I would have said the lower end of the s of the cost scale, so
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: we're not really going for something that's uh
Jacob Pfaff: I s I suppose
Michael Clayborn: terribly
Jacob Pfaff: um
Michael Clayborn: high-tech.
Jacob Pfaff: if people are buying remotes, then they're probably buying it to replace another remote
Michael Clayborn: Possibly.
Jacob Pfaff: 'cause all most tellies come with remotes, so. I
Michael Clayborn: That's right.
Jacob Pfaff: mean we're maybe talking about replacing remotes for slightly older televisions, so we maybe need to keep the the tuning function in.
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So how would this menu function work? Would you maybe have like one menu button, then you'd use the other buttons, maybe the number buttons to actually do the separate functions.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah,
Anthony Gunther: Yeah,
Jacob Pfaff: that would be
Anthony Gunther: like
Jacob Pfaff: a good
Anthony Gunther: the volume
Jacob Pfaff: idea,
Anthony Gunther: or something.
Jacob Pfaff: yeah.
Brent Dow: Okay.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah, 'cause you do need um kind of brightness and contrast and everything as well. My dad
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: was watching a film the other week and it was too dark, so I had to go through it and turn the brightness up.
Brent Dow: we're
Jacob Pfaff: Hmm.
Brent Dow: gonna have the the individual numbers and then a menu function and maybe sort of a slightly more advanced um instruction booklet to come with it, to guide Presu uh I think it'd be quite hard just for people to grasp um just off like the menu use different buttons you maybe have to have like some better instructions of how
Jacob Pfaff: Uh
Brent Dow: that would actually work.
Jacob Pfaff: I'm not sure whether the sort of having people have a booklet 'cause one the second most annoying thing that people found was having to learn the new one.
Brent Dow: Right, okay
Jacob Pfaff: So
Brent Dow: um.
Jacob Pfaff: maybe next to each of the buttons, you know each of them could have a number and then also a function written next to it, so you're basically pressing
Brent Dow: that also goes back to the original design when we saw those two, and there was the one on the left hand side which had all like the double functions and stuff which kind of looked too busy and had
Jacob Pfaff: Right.
Brent Dow: too much on it, so.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Anthony Gunther: Well,
Michael Clayborn: Okay,
Anthony Gunther: if we're
Michael Clayborn: well.
Anthony Gunther: trying to keep it slee sleek and sexy as well, have you seen those
Michael Clayborn: Mm.
Anthony Gunther: remotes where kind of um the bottom bit slides down, so there's
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: kind of um everything
Michael Clayborn: So y
Anthony Gunther: else revealed? So you don't
Michael Clayborn: Ah
Anthony Gunther: use it that much, you don't have to see it all the time.
Michael Clayborn: That's a very
Anthony Gunther: But
Michael Clayborn: good
Anthony Gunther: it's
Michael Clayborn: idea.
Anthony Gunther: all there
Brent Dow: That
Anthony Gunther: if you
Brent Dow: is
Anthony Gunther: need
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah,
Brent Dow: that is
Anthony Gunther: it.
Brent Dow: a good idea actually.
Jacob Pfaff: yeah.
Brent Dow: Sor sort of a second.
Michael Clayborn: So you keep um
Anthony Gunther: Like a hidden panel.
Michael Clayborn: Right we've got five minutes before we wind up this meeting, so I've been told.
Brent Dow: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: I don't know if you've got the same.
Brent Dow: Uh not quite, but
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Brent Dow: I guess.
Michael Clayborn: So so keep um
Brent Dow: Keep the other buttons but hide them away.
Michael Clayborn: keep detailed functions um hidden at the back.
Anthony Gunther: Hmm. And that'll be better for the older generation as well 'cause, well my dad doesn't like
Michael Clayborn: Ah.
Anthony Gunther: anything that you've got to kinda flick through a menu,
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: but he can pretty much read a button
Michael Clayborn: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: So
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: if it's displayed properly.
Brent Dow: So um we're gonna have to have to work out what's gonna be on these other functions as as well. So we're
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: gonna have like two separate
Michael Clayborn: That's right.
Brent Dow: two separate lists, I guess.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: data functions hidden at back.
Jacob Pfaff: So th the
Michael Clayborn: Can bring out when needed.
Jacob Pfaff: The detailed ones would be sort of brightness,
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Jacob Pfaff: uh sorta
Michael Clayborn: That's right so we're dis So you've got which ones are gonna be on the front and which ones are gonna be on the back.
Brent Dow: So
Michael Clayborn: We
Brent Dow: sh
Michael Clayborn: have to decide.
Brent Dow: Should we decide
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Brent Dow: in the next couple of minutes, and then
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: I guess so.
Brent Dow: So on the
Michael Clayborn: So on front,
Brent Dow: about the number.
Michael Clayborn: numbers,
Brent Dow: Um
Anthony Gunther: And the volume?
Brent Dow: the volume up and down.
Michael Clayborn: volume.
Brent Dow: Shall
Anthony Gunther: Um.
Brent Dow: we have a mute button as well?
Michael Clayborn: Sorry?
Brent Dow: A mute button as well.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Mm.
Brent Dow: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah
Brent Dow: Or
Anthony Gunther: I think they're handy.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm. And probably a power one as well. Dunno.
Anthony Gunther: Have you seen the adverts? Like if you
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: boil the kettle that's full that's a waste.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: If you leave your telly on standby it powers Blackpool for a certain amount of time. Like we should maybe try to discourage people from standby.
Brent Dow: But then they might not buy it if they haven't got one. 'Cause
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: people might
Anthony Gunther: Yeah,
Brent Dow: just
Anthony Gunther: it's
Brent Dow: be too
Anthony Gunther: maybe
Brent Dow: fickle
Anthony Gunther: too much
Brent Dow: and
Anthony Gunther: of
Brent Dow: not
Anthony Gunther: a big
Brent Dow: want to
Anthony Gunther: issue
Brent Dow: change.
Anthony Gunther: for here.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: We can send out a flier with the device
Michael Clayborn: So
Brent Dow: saying that you shouldn't
Michael Clayborn: so are
Brent Dow: leave
Anthony Gunther: Uh-oh
Michael Clayborn: you having
Brent Dow: it on
Anthony Gunther: danger
Brent Dow: stand-by.
Michael Clayborn: the stand-by
Anthony Gunther: sign.
Michael Clayborn: on the front, then?
Brent Dow: I think you probably should.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah, but a little bit smaller. Compromise.
Michael Clayborn: Well.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Brent Dow: Um are we gonna have the channel up and down as well as the number buttons?
Jacob Pfaff: Um 'cause yeah the market research said there is quite a lot of people do just zap around
Brent Dow: Okay,
Jacob Pfaff: and flick,
Brent Dow: so we'll
Jacob Pfaff: so.
Brent Dow: have um
Anthony Gunther: Right.
Brent Dow: So we've got ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen there?
Jacob Pfaff: Um.
Michael Clayborn: Channel up and down. What else have we got? What was that, sixteen?
Jacob Pfaff: Numbers is ten, volume is twelve, th
Michael Clayborn: Volume button.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah
Michael Clayborn: How many
Jacob Pfaff: si
Michael Clayborn: volumes?
Jacob Pfaff: One up, one down.
Michael Clayborn: Right okay.
Anthony Gunther: On mute.
Jacob Pfaff: And a mute, yeah. That's sixteen isn't it, yeah.
Brent Dow: Is there anything else? Um.
Jacob Pfaff: I don't think so, no.
Michael Clayborn: Power button, stand-by, channel, up and down. So is that it?
Anthony Gunther: so.
Michael Clayborn: Okay. That's sixteen buttons, you reckon. And then at the back?
Jacob Pfaff: You've got brightness and contrast.
Brent Dow: Maybe
Anthony Gunther: And then
Brent Dow: if we're gonna run out of time, one of us should come up with a list of these and then get back at the next meeting just at the start and say what they're gonna be.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: So
Anthony Gunther: Mm-hmm.
Michael Clayborn: on the back it'll have brightness, contrast, anything else?
Anthony Gunther: Uh
Michael Clayborn: You're
Anthony Gunther: there's
Michael Clayborn: also
Anthony Gunther: audio
Michael Clayborn: gonna have
Anthony Gunther: functions.
Michael Clayborn: the channel tuner, as it were.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: So tuner up and down, I guess.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Tuner, would that have up and down?
Brent Dow: Um up
Anthony Gunther: I think they normally
Brent Dow: Tune one
Anthony Gunther: do.
Brent Dow: way, tune
Michael Clayborn: okay.
Brent Dow: the o I I dunno I
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Brent Dow: dunno possibly.
Anthony Gunther: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Jacob Pfaff: And then maybe sort of an enter button for sort of s you know, saying that you want that particular thing tuned in. So you go up and down and then it pick
Brent Dow: Oh yeah
Jacob Pfaff: it
Brent Dow: and
Jacob Pfaff: finds
Brent Dow: th and a
Jacob Pfaff: something
Brent Dow: enter
Jacob Pfaff: and
Brent Dow: button
Jacob Pfaff: then you
Brent Dow: just
Jacob Pfaff: wanna
Brent Dow: to
Jacob Pfaff: press
Brent Dow: select. Yeah,
Jacob Pfaff: enter
Brent Dow: okay.
Jacob Pfaff: to select it, yeah.
Brent Dow: Um I guess we're keeping s it simple. We don't really need any other audio funct uh functions because it's just volume up, volume
Michael Clayborn: Um
Brent Dow: down.
Michael Clayborn: up volume, yeah, I would have thought so.
Brent Dow: Um.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: So I think um there's quite a lot of like Dolby surround studio, surround sort of things.
Jacob Pfaff: Yeah.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Brent Dow: Do
Anthony Gunther: Um
Brent Dow: they have their
Anthony Gunther: maybe
Brent Dow: own
Anthony Gunther: for the younger market.
Brent Dow: do they have their own controls on their actual products, then, or do you have to do it via the remote?
Anthony Gunther: Um I think they've got their own controls in this kind of like hidden panel.
Brent Dow: Yeah I suppose if we've got their if they've got their own controls then we can avoid it for ours
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Brent Dow: just to keep it simple.
Michael Clayborn: Yeah.
Anthony Gunther: Oh no, I mean um like there's kind of individual buttons for them,
Brent Dow: Oh, okay.
Anthony Gunther: like on the T_V_ remote.
Brent Dow: Right.
Jacob Pfaff: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Gunther: But I don't really know what they're for, I've never used them.
Brent Dow: Um.
Anthony Gunther: I just know they're something to do with
Brent Dow: Maybe unless something
Anthony Gunther: Dolby.
Brent Dow: comes up then we should I
Michael Clayborn: Well
Brent Dow: think
Michael Clayborn: you might get some research.
Brent Dow: Well shall we look into that and just get back together.
Michael Clayborn: Okay.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Anthony Gunther: Right.
Michael Clayborn: Right
Jacob Pfaff: Right.
Michael Clayborn: so I'll do the minutes of uh this meeting. And we'll meet back at I'm not sure. Um forty minutes, I believe is the time.
Brent Dow: 'Kay.
Jacob Pfaff: Okay.
Michael Clayborn: Come on. | Michael Clayborn gave the group new requirements on product features. Brent Dow gave a presentation on the working design of the device. He presented all the necessary internal components and how they operate together. He gave his preferences on energy sources and senders. Anthony Gunther presented the necessary functions of the remote, then compared the interfaces of two existing remotes. The group discussed making their remote more user-friendly; they proposed eliminating rarely-used buttons and making it easier to skip through channels. Jacob Pfaff discussed user requirements with the group and showed that users wanted a fancier, less complicated remote that would not be easily lost. He suggested incorporating a menu and an LCD screen to satisfy these requirements. The group discussed how to incorporate a locator function. Michael Clayborn reminded the group to limit the number of complicated features due to the project's time constraints. The group had a discussion to decide on product features. They decided to include a clapping locator function and a device that allows the user to enter two numbers separately to get a two-digit number. Complicated functions will be hidden in a back panel. | 1 | amisum | test |
Christopher Butler: So is Why not save that.
John Goodman: No, you'll ha have to open it up from elsewhere.
Christopher Butler: Do you want to replace existing file, no. I actually tried to transfer it to My Documents, but
John Goodman: Yeah, you have to you have to close that window. 'Cause that's the save one isn't it, so And then find it.
Christopher Butler: spreadsheet.
Christopher Butler: Yeah, but I've ta uh right, I'll just re-do it. That's the easiest way.
Christopher Butler: Right.
Michael Isacs: Well we've made our prototype anyway. We can have a good look at that.
John Goodman: You pass it round to have a look.
Michael Isacs: Mm-hmm. Y no, it's a slightly curved around the sides.
John Goodman: Mm very nice.
Michael Isacs: Um, it's almost curved like up to the main display as well.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: And the little line at the bottom indicates the bit the panel that you pull down. And the extra function buttons are below that panel
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: on the little line. And we've got the stick on the button with the company logo on.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: We also have a apple slash cherry design at the top.
John Goodman: So it is, yeah. Cherry would be alright actually. Yeah.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, it's bit more fun, isn't it? And it's kinda not really at a kind of you think apple, you think computers, like Apple
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Michael Isacs: Mac.
Miguel Jagers: yeah, we might get a
John Goodman: Mm-hmm. Copyright, yeah. What's this
Michael Isacs: Yeah,
John Goodman: this
Michael Isacs: and cherries
John Goodman: one?
Michael Isacs: are fun, summery.
John Goodman: What's that one there?
Michael Isacs: Ah, that's the mute.
John Goodman: Oh, okay.
Miguel Jagers: For the M_.
John Goodman: Right.
Michael Isacs: It it'd probably have to be labelled mute. But
Miguel Jagers: They're
Michael Isacs: um,
Miguel Jagers: thinking
Michael Isacs: we didn't have anything small enough to write.
John Goodman: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: For the first time, well it was hard to get the h um the actual labelling on the individual buttons.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: Yeah. Uh, we just chose simple shapes for all them. Um, the important ones are the volume ones. So we made them a bit bigger.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: The mute could possibly be a bit smaller.
Miguel Jagers: Hum, you separate off in colour the volume related buttons from the channel related buttons, so you've got the volume in orange on
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: design there, and the the channel is in blue.
Michael Isacs: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: R right.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, and we chose
Christopher Butler: Um,
Michael Isacs: a V_
Christopher Butler: all
Michael Isacs: plus
Christopher Butler: these things
Michael Isacs: and V_ minus.
Christopher Butler: have cost implications. And when I done my cost a I had assumed the only uh button that would be a different colour would be the uh the red apple button. So However, I've now. But um, yeah so uh but there
John Goodman: I'll see if I can find them.
Christopher Butler: would be a cost implication on that, and uh as I suppose that so whether wanted to put in all these colours, would be uh
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: open
Miguel Jagers: sis
Christopher Butler: to debate, I suppose.
Michael Isacs: Well
John Goodman: Have
Michael Isacs: the colours wouldn't like that's they wouldn't be too important, but we didn't have any white Play-Doh. So that's
Christopher Butler: An
Michael Isacs: where the colour buttons came from.
Christopher Butler: important consideration. Right, okay so um And the second one underneath would be the idea for the
Miguel Jagers: Yes, we'll have the slide-away.
Christopher Butler: Right, okay.
Miguel Jagers: Bottom.
Christopher Butler: So we've got um detail design meeting. Right. So So, we've got prototype presentation, which we've just done, evaluation criteria, um and finance, so I guess w we have to evaluate if that meets the various uh aspects that we're looking for uh from
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: um our previous meeting. So
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: other than the fact that it doesn't have the second layer,
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: but um obviously obviously it would. But other than that, we got the red apple. We got the buttons and the only thing that has really changed is the is the colouration of the buttons,
Miguel Jagers: Yes, yes.
Christopher Butler: and the bit after the evaluation criteria is uh is the finance.
John Goodman: Right.
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
Christopher Butler: And the and the cost implication. The only snag about this is that uh the cost is probably kind of important. So um, and then the production evaluation, as to how easy that would be to uh to manufacture.
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: Um, and whether it would uh
John Goodman: So if you had to do a presentation or will you just work it on the prototype?
Michael Isacs: Uh,
Miguel Jagers: This this is
Michael Isacs: that's
Miguel Jagers: a yes, this
John Goodman: That's
Miguel Jagers: is our presentation
John Goodman: the pr
Michael Isacs: it.
Miguel Jagers: of the prototype.
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: Right, so uh as far as the the finance of it would be concern would be to make sure that the cost aye the production cost 'cause you may remember that was one of the first uh considerations was to be in d under um uh twelve fifty or two and a half
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: uh twelve and a half Euros. So, there's no redesign. So that should uh Right, so, seems to John Goodman that the thing that I have to do is is quickly find that uh
Miguel Jagers: Could we get this on the board just so we can see or do you mean do you have the figures there?
John Goodman: we should plug it in.
Christopher Butler: Right.
John Goodman: Do you wanna plu do you wanna plug it in into the the
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: back of that one.
Miguel Jagers: 'Kay, Alice. So,
John Goodman: We could do it as
Miguel Jagers: sh
John Goodman: we d go along, the production costs, looking at the prototype.
Christopher Butler: Right.
Miguel Jagers: 'Kay this should be then.
Christopher Butler: Okay, so, by the fact that we've got uh the simple chip and the uh kinetic energy source, we've got a single curved case. We've got a rubber uh case materials supplements. So,
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: we had decided that we're having rubber buttons and
Miguel Jagers: Have a push button interface.
Christopher Butler: Okay. W
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: the button supplements. Well, originally, I thought there would just be uh one in there because it was the one red apple.
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: But So the so the real w the real question then would come in. Do you make all the buttons
John Goodman: Well do we'll do it
Christopher Butler: O
John Goodman: on the prototype, so do two, see how much it is.
Christopher Butler: Well, so we've got one special button form, which was the apple. Everything
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: else
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: is gonna be a standard.
Miguel Jagers: And then we'd
Christopher Butler: We've
Miguel Jagers: have
Christopher Butler: got special material, rubber, wood, titanium, et cetera and that, so,
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: I was originally, I was thinking rubber wasn't special, but according to this, maybe it is.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: So And the r I mean effectively we've got sixteen buttons that we're gonna have on there.
John Goodman: Yeah. I think you just do one, don't you, for the
Christopher Butler: W I don't know is is is the sort of answer, is that meant to be all sixteen buttons, and therefore I mean, what's the op The option was maybe not to have rubber buttons, but just to have the one that was soft and spongy, and therefore
John Goodman: I think I think it's just it's just a one. Else
Christopher Butler: Whereas it would be the special colour would be for the So you would only have the one special button that was rubber, whereas the rest would be hard plastic.
John Goodman: I thi I think I think the button supplement i is just a supplement for all the buttons made in a different material, rather than per button.
Christopher Butler: Mm.
John Goodman: I don't know though.
Christopher Butler: I would Every design change is uh
John Goodman: Hmm.
Christopher Butler: I dunno, um Okay, um, if we just had all the buttons as standard, except for the one red apple, then that would take care of that, I guess. We'd have one special colour and one special button form.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: And when I plugged that in last time remember it has to be under twelve and a half. As far as I know, that um that took care of the uh of the various supplements.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: And if What happened?
John Goodman: You've just gone off the window into another one. It's on the bottom row.
Michael Isacs: Maybe if you just minimise that one in the top right-hand corner of the little box. Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Now, right. Okay, so, but the point would be that if we uh if we just did special Sorry, you were saying that it would be that one, that you would put in one there.
John Goodman: Yeah. Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: So that's nine point one there so we've got some
Christopher Butler: So it Well, is it s is no, it's nine point seven I've got.
Miguel Jagers: 'Kay.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: Just give us a bit of
Christopher Butler: So, that would that would work out fine if uh
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: uh as assuming your correction are are assuming that that one change covers all the buttons, then that would be fine.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: And there's
Michael Isacs: S
Christopher Butler: nothing else as far as I can see that we we had uh planned to put
Miguel Jagers: I switching
Christopher Butler: on.
Miguel Jagers: around those th um on the electronics we got the sample sensor. At the moment we've just got the simple chip, which costs one. Um, I
Christopher Butler: Uh-huh.
Miguel Jagers: guess the sample sens sample speaker would be the voice recognition thing,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: which puts up to four? We should be slightly over our budget but if we gather something else down to slightly lower standard,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: and maybe go with the one the special form buttons, then we could have
Christopher Butler: Well,
Miguel Jagers: the
Christopher Butler: hold
Miguel Jagers: speech
Christopher Butler: on. if we Okay, that gives us twelve point seven
Miguel Jagers: So uh maybe if we got rid of like the maybe one of the special colours, kept them all the same colour, then we could have the voice recognition
Christopher Butler: But remember
Miguel Jagers: without
Christopher Butler: that the idea was to keep it the colour of the Oh, I see, so just take out the special colour for the apple and
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, yeah.
Michael Isacs: Um, D
Miguel Jagers: Um
Michael Isacs: wouldn't you have to keep the simple chip there as well? You know how you turn that one to a zero, wouldn't the chip and the
John Goodman: Yeah, we have to have
Michael Isacs: sample
John Goodman: it
Michael Isacs: speaker be separate things,
Miguel Jagers: Oh
Michael Isacs: so you
Miguel Jagers: possibly,
Michael Isacs: need both
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: of them?
Miguel Jagers: yeah, yeah maybe. Maybe um we'd be giving up on the kinetic. Um
Christopher Butler: And go
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: for battery instead. That would give
Miguel Jagers: We should
Christopher Butler: you one less.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, that would save us one, though we'd still be slightly
Christopher Butler: But you
Miguel Jagers: ov
Christopher Butler: reckon that i I mean the thing is that you wanted to a appeal to people and not have to replace batteries.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, yeah. Well, since it's the through the whole technology type thing, um, you were saying in the market research that people like kind of interesting gadgets in them.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: Um, whether they would figure the the s uh sample senor and the sample speaker, voice recognition be sort of a worthwhile thing to have. And then still
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: have the batteries, or whatever they would prefer not uh You know what I mean? The the problem was the battery's
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: running out and losing the um
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: losing the remote. So you gotta decide which of those is more important to them.
Christopher Butler: But which do you think or which do we think is the more important of the options?
Michael Isacs: I think the
Christopher Butler: In
Michael Isacs: voice
Christopher Butler: a sense,
Michael Isacs: recognition.
Christopher Butler: at the moment, we've got a total which we need to reduce down by one point two. At least. Remember that was a minimum requirement. The other option if we're planning on just going for something cheap and cheerful, would be to um make it originally, we're gonna make it a simple
John Goodman: Shall
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
John Goodman: we
Christopher Butler: product.
John Goodman: shall we evaluate the prototype as we've got it now first, and then sort of make decisions about what needs to be changed after?
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm. Makes
John Goodman: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
Christopher Butler: sense.
John Goodman: Right um, I have a little thing. So, we've all got a note of it's thirteen point seven, isn't it, with everything we want on.
Christopher Butler: Sorry, do you want that
John Goodman: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: back
John Goodman: I
Christopher Butler: up?
John Goodman: just had a presentation to
Christopher Butler: Right.
John Goodman: do.
Michael Isacs: But I do think uh the v uh voice recognition thing would be more impressive than the fact that it's got no battery.
Christopher Butler: Okay, but remember the main the only reason we were planning on having the voice recognition was so that they could find the remote if it got lost.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm. Mm. Right okay um, This is about the evaluation criteria that we use for the the prototype we've got here. And so the method is that the design team makes a prototype, and we evaluate the prototype against some criteria that we've formulated. And those ones are gonna be in response to sort of market research, and also finance, I guess. And do that on a scale from say true being one and false being seven, so if it's neither true nor false, then that's four.
John Goodman: So, I got a set of criteria just based on the marketing that we need to add in a financial one as well, at the end. Um so, We have to say whether it's true or false that the product looks and feels fancy. Um The whether the product demonstrates technical innovation. Whether it's easy to use. Whether it's incorporating sort of the fashion element to attract the buyer. And whether it's a sort of recognisable Real Reaction product. And I have to go up onto the whiteboard and do this apparently,
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
John Goodman: so I'll go over here.
John Goodman: Right. So the first one is um, does the product look and feel fancy. So if we do a sort of a one So
Miguel Jagers: Okay, well we have a single curve, which was maybe like the
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: feel of the product's quite good. So
John Goodman: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: uh Um, then we have the rubber kinda spongy feel, which was
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: in at the time.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Um,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: sorry that'd be considered fancy.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, I'd maybe give it a a two.
John Goodman: Of but I think What Is one false, or is t one true? I forgot.
Michael Isacs: One's true.
John Goodman: One's true, and okay. Seven's
Michael Isacs: And a
John Goodman: fal
Michael Isacs: four is neutral.
John Goodman: Four is neutral, okay. So
Miguel Jagers: So maybe maybe a two.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, 'cause we haven't got the double curve, so we can't like
Christopher Butler: Go
Michael Isacs: say it's
Christopher Butler: for
John Goodman: Right.
Michael Isacs: completely
Christopher Butler: one.
Michael Isacs: true. But
Christopher Butler: Yep.
Michael Isacs: it's pretty close. We've got almost everything we can.
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: Right. I gonna put underneath so I've got some more space. So, false is seven, true is one, and So uh say about a two for fancy,
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
John Goodman: you
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
John Goodman: think? Okay.
Christopher Butler: Yeah, why not not, m m maybe nearer three.
John Goodman: Okay, well d you do
Christopher Butler: Two
John Goodman: an average
Christopher Butler: three.
John Goodman: at the end, I don't know. Um
Christopher Butler: Well, it's just that uh saying something remember that when you look down, we've got solar power, we've got uh various other things you could have,
John Goodman: Uh-huh.
Christopher Butler: and we're not going for
John Goodman: This
Christopher Butler: these
John Goodman: this
Christopher Butler: options.
John Goodman: is just this is just for like the look. Does it sort of look
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm.
John Goodman: fancy rather than functional. So
Michael Isacs: Yeah, I suppose that might be in the technical innovation bit.
John Goodman: Yeah, so that so sh should we go for a a two on that?
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: 'Kay. And I mean, how much does the product demonstrate technical innovation do
Miguel Jagers: Um,
John Goodman: you reckon?
Miguel Jagers: deciding between the kinetic power or um the speech recognition, and if we had either of those for our budget, they both show a reasonable
John Goodman: D
Miguel Jagers: amount
John Goodman: yeah.
Miguel Jagers: of speech recognition.
John Goodman: Okay. So, what about the pr The prototype as it is,
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: we've got we've got the speech recognition on it, haven't we.
Miguel Jagers: But not the kinetic.
John Goodman: But not the kinetic.
Miguel Jagers: Like the power.
Christopher Butler: No. 'Cause you can't afford that w we
Miguel Jagers: No,
Christopher Butler: took
Miguel Jagers: we c
Christopher Butler: that out
Miguel Jagers: ca
Christopher Butler: too.
Miguel Jagers: yeah, we can't afford both.
John Goodman: Alright,
Christopher Butler: Didn't
John Goodman: so
Christopher Butler: you? Or
John Goodman: So it doesn't It's pretty The prototype as it is isn't sort of um fulfilling the
Miguel Jagers: No may is maybe about
Michael Isacs: Maybe
Miguel Jagers: neutral
Michael Isacs: a three.
Miguel Jagers: plus it it it's got something, but it hasn't got
John Goodman: Okay. Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Well, wait a minute. In
Michael Isacs: I
Christopher Butler: thirteen
Michael Isacs: would give
Christopher Butler: point
Michael Isacs: it
Christopher Butler: seven
Michael Isacs: more than
Christopher Butler: we
Michael Isacs: a four.
Christopher Butler: do have kinetic. The problem is we have to reduce down from there to
Miguel Jagers: Right.
Christopher Butler: get it down to twelve point five.
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
Christopher Butler: And one way of doing that would be to take out the kinetic. So, it's very much dependant on what you do with your options.
John Goodman: Right,
Christopher Butler: And
John Goodman: okay.
Christopher Butler: if
Miguel Jagers: 'Kay.
Christopher Butler: you're definitely going for the sample sensor and sample speaker, then because that the other functions we've got in are are more at the The special material, the rubber, wood, titanium, et cetera, if you go for that, th that's at the high end 'cause that's point six, whereas down at uh just special colours uh is point two. Now you're trying to lose one point two, so it seems to John Goodman that if you're going for the sample sensors speaker, you're basically then having to go for the cheaper options on everything else.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
Christopher Butler: And
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: and the simple way to do it would be to have a battery, to have your uh sample sensor speaker, and then you're looking to uh take out
John Goodman: S
Christopher Butler: uh point two,
John Goodman: I'm just gonna check my email.
Christopher Butler: which would be come from the button supplements category.
John Goodman: I'm just gonna check exactly what it said in the email for um the product.
Michael Isacs: How much of a difference would it make if we made the case in plastic? Because we did say that we don't wanna follow the fashion too much. If the buttons are rubber that might be spongy enough. And then it
Christopher Butler: Um,
Michael Isacs: stand the
Christopher Butler: interface
Michael Isacs: test of time better.
Christopher Butler: type um, well plastic rather than rubber.
John Goodman: Okay. But I
Christopher Butler: That that that would make the significant difference. You could either you could have it If you have a in plastic rather than rubber, then that would uh enable you to get you could keep kinetic then, you could keep your sample sensor, and you'd be looking to take out point two. So you could uh fiddle that down your special form at the bottom, or your special colour at the bottom.
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: And that would enable you to to do it.
John Goodman: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: So it says if we make a slightly more fancy, then we lose points innovation, and if we make it more innovative innovative,
Christopher Butler: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: then we lose
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: points on
Christopher Butler: Ye
Miguel Jagers: it being fancy, so
John Goodman: I just read the email again and it sort of says it's evaluate the design sort of as it is, I think, so I think we need to think about finance after we've sort of evaluated that design. I don't know whether we're doing it in the wrong order or something or.
Christopher Butler: Well, okay, but
Michael Isacs: Well, I suppose it's rubber as it is, isn't it.
Christopher Butler: It's rubber as it is, yes.
John Goodman: bit or something, 'cause we've got both the both the um
Christopher Butler: We
John Goodman: the
Christopher Butler: got we've
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
John Goodman: speech
Christopher Butler: we've got thirteen point seven and we've got it in at the moment and if
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: and basically, we're going to reduce down from that. But the current one, you'd say would be fancy, would be too
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, yeah.
John Goodman: Yeah. Um, for for innovation, so we've got the speech the speech thing, and
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm. I would've said about a two as well.
John Goodman: Do you reckon a two?
Michael Isacs: Yeah, two or three. I'd be happy with a two.
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: Oh.
John Goodman: Two. And the next one is I'll have to get it back up now.
Christopher Butler: The next on Well, I can just sing about. Easy to use. I would've said yes. I would go for a one on that at this point in time.
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
John Goodman: Okay.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, I would say so as well.
Christopher Butler: Um, incorporates elements of fashion to attract buyer. Well,
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: yeah it certainly has some.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, it's got the cherry
Miguel Jagers: It does, yeah.
Michael Isacs: and the
John Goodman: Um
Michael Isacs: sponginess.
Christopher Butler: Yep.
John Goodman: Say about a three maybe?
Christopher Butler: I don't know.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Michael Isacs: Maybe
Miguel Jagers: m um
Michael Isacs: two?
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, it was just doing it quite well. Um, I
Christopher Butler: Yep.
Miguel Jagers: think we're gonna have to lose some of these, but the moment, as it stands, it's um
Christopher Butler: Yeah, I
John Goodman: It's
Christopher Butler: woulda
John Goodman: a
Christopher Butler: said
John Goodman: two.
Christopher Butler: two would seem reasonable. The product is a recognisable real r uh
John Goodman: Yeah, this
Christopher Butler: reaction
John Goodman: is
Christopher Butler: product?
Miguel Jagers: Uh
John Goodman: This
Miguel Jagers: the sensor using all of its all of its products, all of its buttons, and it's got a fairly big label on the bottom saying
Michael Isacs: Yeah, that's
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: where
Michael Isacs: a bit
Miguel Jagers: it
Michael Isacs: rough
Miguel Jagers: comes
Michael Isacs: at the minute.
Miguel Jagers: from.
John Goodman: So this is about sort of the corporate
Christopher Butler: Oh.
John Goodman: image of like new sort of sleek technology and all that sort of thing, as well
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
John Goodman: as having the logo on and all that. So sort of Is it sort of a recognisable product. Does it fit in with our other other products, which uh are sort of coffee makers and spacecraft.
Michael Isacs: Uh,
John Goodman: What
Michael Isacs: well
Christopher Butler: S
John Goodman: do
Michael Isacs: it's
John Goodman: y
Michael Isacs: got the same um speech feature as the coffee machine.
Miguel Jagers: Also it's kind of spongy rubberiness is maybe bit more kinda comfortable than kinda sleek and new
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: age. Um,
John Goodman: Uh-huh.
Miguel Jagers: it depends which way you look at it.
Christopher Butler: Okay. So
John Goodman: So
Christopher Butler: we're going for a
Miguel Jagers: Maybe a kind of
Christopher Butler: two,
Miguel Jagers: three? Uh d
John Goodman: Two
Christopher Butler: three?
Michael Isacs: Yeah,
John Goodman: or three?
Michael Isacs: two or three. Well, the logo would be more um recognisable on the actual thing. It's just that the pen wouldn't really write on that paper.
Christopher Butler: Sure.
Michael Isacs: But um,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: I think the logo would definitely be recognisable. And it does have attributes that other products do. Two? Aye. Go for it.
Christopher Butler: Right,
John Goodman: Two
Christopher Butler: okay.
John Goodman: or three.
Christopher Butler: Two.
John Goodman: How
Christopher Butler: Right, come on.
John Goodman: Two.
Christopher Butler: That's
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: that decided. Right. So
John Goodman: Right.
Christopher Butler: So we're now on to changing it to get it to fit in with the budget requirements, and then
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: What does what do all them numbers mean then? Do we add them up and rate or anything?
John Goodman: Yeah we s yeah, I think we sort of add them up so sort of at an average is gonna be I'm just gonna do this
Christopher Butler: About
John Goodman: in my
Christopher Butler: a two.
John Goodman: head.
Christopher Butler: Two.
John Goodman: One point eight isn't it or something. I think, anyway. So yeah, pretty close to a two.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
John Goodman: So
Miguel Jagers: so it's
John Goodman: So it's I mean it's pretty good at the moment, but it's gonna get worse, isn't it. But we've gotta
Christopher Butler: Yep.
John Goodman: try and make sure it doesn't get
Miguel Jagers: So should
Christopher Butler: Two
John Goodman: too
Christopher Butler: b
John Goodman: bad.
Christopher Butler: two b two, yeah.
Miguel Jagers: we get So are definite Was it thirteen point seven was the definite price rule if has.
Christopher Butler: Yes.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Okay, so we need to
Christopher Butler: Well, you can lose one point two and still meet
John Goodman: Do you wanna
Christopher Butler: the requirements.
John Goodman: plug it into yours so we can get up the
Christopher Butler: Okay, well I put it back
John Goodman: the
Christopher Butler: on.
John Goodman: finances
Miguel Jagers: So I guess this Is this the last stage once we sort out the finances part of it?
John Goodman: I'm not sure.
Michael Isacs: we'll probably have to re-rate it.
Christopher Butler: Yes, I would've thought so.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: yeah we'll make the adjustments and then see how are rates are going.
Christopher Butler: Okay, so what was it, control uh F_ eight, wasn't
Michael Isacs: Ah
Christopher Butler: it?
Michael Isacs: it's on.
John Goodman: it's come on already.
Christopher Butler: Oh. Oh. How kind. Right, okay. So, you can see there that the If you want to keep kinetic, right, you've got a choice there of going down to battery, which would save you one. You've got the sample sensor and and sample speaker, which is your big item.
Miguel Jagers: Oh actually we just have a plastic case, then we lose two
Christopher Butler: That's
Miguel Jagers: points,
Christopher Butler: right.
Miguel Jagers: which gets us um
John Goodman: Mm.
Christopher Butler: Which gets you
Miguel Jagers: In right within the budget range.
Christopher Butler: Yes.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, I think that'd be fine. Because that was just a trend, and we do have rubber buttons anyway.
Miguel Jagers: So that's eleven point
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: seven, and then we could make sure we definitely had all the button supplements.
John Goodman: Different
Christopher Butler: Alright.
John Goodman: different colours, yeah. Yeah, I was I was thinking that because maybe maybe the sort of rubber case is a bit less in sort of the corporate identity than the
Miguel Jagers: Possibly,
John Goodman: sort of you
Miguel Jagers: yeah.
John Goodman: know sleeker plastic case.
Miguel Jagers: Um
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Okay,
Miguel Jagers: And that would
Christopher Butler: so
Miguel Jagers: allow us to have all the technical innovations. So we'd lose a little bit on the maybe kind of
Christopher Butler: So we're going for plastic, yes?
John Goodman: Lose a little bit on the fashion, yeah, but
Christopher Butler: Yep.
Miguel Jagers: Oh
John Goodman: And
Miguel Jagers: yeah,
John Goodman: then
Miguel Jagers: and that would now be Yeah, that's that's within the budget. Um Do we actually have Do we just have one special uh special forms down here?
Christopher Butler: Well, uh w uh there was debate as to how you would count them.
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: You got special colour. Well originally I was assuming we had the red apple, and therefore, that was the special colour.
Michael Isacs: Yeah, I think we should just imagine white buttons.
Miguel Jagers: And we we've we've got we've got enough for another
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: we've got nought point eight left, so we've got enough for
Christopher Butler: Well,
Miguel Jagers: another
Christopher Butler: we've got special form. Now that would be one button, and the question was was that all buttons or is that just one button. 'Cause our plan really was to have one button only with a special
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, um
Christopher Butler: So so no matter
Miguel Jagers: But the
Christopher Butler: how you
Miguel Jagers: but
Christopher Butler: look at that, that would be the same. The other
Miguel Jagers: but
Christopher Butler: thing would
Miguel Jagers: but
Christopher Butler: then
Miguel Jagers: the
Christopher Butler: be special material, rubber, wood, titanium.
Miguel Jagers: I think maybe the special colour, we've got three now just because the
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: volume buttons are different, I guess we'd have the ones which are blue at the moment
Christopher Butler: Alright.
Miguel Jagers: would would just be
Christopher Butler: So,
Miguel Jagers: the standard
Christopher Butler: special
Miguel Jagers: colour.
Christopher Butler: colour, you want three in there.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, which I think we should Yeah, they'll still be fine for the for the price.
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: Well I thin I think you you you just need two for the special colour 'cause it's just two supplements, you know. One original colour and then sort of two supplements, I think maybe.
Christopher Butler: That makes sense.
Miguel Jagers: Okay,
John Goodman: Okay.
Miguel Jagers: uh
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: that's probably it.
John Goodman: So we only ne we only need two for that.
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: 'Cause I mean these these are moulded. The one colour's gonna be moulded out of a piece of plas uh of rubber, isn't
Christopher Butler: Okay.
John Goodman: it.
Christopher Butler: Yeah, I would agree with that, I think. So special colours, two.
John Goodman: Right.
Christopher Butler: And we've got special form is the one apple. The rest are all standard, although you could argue that should maybe be You were making these buttons down the bottom, I was presuming, bigger than the other ones, or were you?
Miguel Jagers: Ne
Christopher Butler: Was that the
Miguel Jagers: uh
Christopher Butler: idea?
Michael Isacs: Yeah, the volume ones should
Miguel Jagers: Maybe
Michael Isacs: stand
Miguel Jagers: that'll be
Michael Isacs: out
Miguel Jagers: a
Michael Isacs: a bit.
Miguel Jagers: second supplement.
John Goodman: Yeah,
Miguel Jagers: Then there's
John Goodman: that
Miguel Jagers: a spe a second special form.
Christopher Butler: Uh-huh.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: I
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: would have thought that's probably about r
Miguel Jagers: Well you got you got twelve.
Christopher Butler: well.
John Goodman: Okay, so tha
Miguel Jagers: So I think that should still be okay. Yeah,
Christopher Butler: Right.
Miguel Jagers: that's twelve point three, so we're still within budget on that.
Christopher Butler: Yep, that
Miguel Jagers: Um
Christopher Butler: makes sense.
Miguel Jagers: So decide we've lost a little bit on the fashion and lost a bit on the fancy kinda
Christopher Butler: Yep.
Miguel Jagers: side of it, but generally speaking, we've kept the other attributes to the
Christopher Butler: I woulda said so. Yeah. So you'd maybe put fash fan uh
Miguel Jagers: That's
Christopher Butler: fashion
Miguel Jagers: without
Christopher Butler: at three rather than
John Goodman: So shall we do
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
John Goodman: a
Christopher Butler: two.
John Goodman: Well, um
Miguel Jagers: And specially it definitely could fits the the real product What was the what's the company name?
Michael Isacs: Real Reactions?
Christopher Butler: Real
Miguel Jagers: R yeah.
Christopher Butler: Reaction produ
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: I'm not quite sure, what
Miguel Jagers: yeah.
Christopher Butler: does that mean?
Miguel Jagers: I mean it still seems definitely fit that p so that's like if that's the new age kind of um inno innovative
John Goodman: Yeah, so
Miguel Jagers: c type company, then um having the kinetic feature and the voice recognition
John Goodman: Uh
Miguel Jagers: is
Christopher Butler: Yep
Miguel Jagers: p quite high up
John Goodman: So
Miguel Jagers: on
John Goodman: it's
Christopher Butler: I
John Goodman: w if we've
Christopher Butler: would
John Goodman: if
Christopher Butler: s
John Goodman: we've put in for another special form on a button, then maybe they could be a different shape. Like we got a cherry one. Maybe other ones could be something else shaped. I don't know. That
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: would be poss
Christopher Butler: You mean of
John Goodman: seeing as seeing as it's cheaper to make them a different seeing as we've got, you know, we've made it a a special form, so And that would sort of maybe keep us close on the sort of the fashion type one. And it would sort of, you know, keep it quite fancy as well, I don't
Miguel Jagers: Mm-hmm.
John Goodman: know.
Christopher Butler: Well you could argue you might do it once a year, you would change, because at the moment you're making a red apple.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah
John Goodman: Well you
Miguel Jagers: so
John Goodman: could
Miguel Jagers: it's
Christopher Butler: So
Miguel Jagers: a
Christopher Butler: next year you could make next year's model the same, but have it as a
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Whatever fruit
Christopher Butler: a
Miguel Jagers: was in
Christopher Butler: yeah
Miguel Jagers: fashion
Christopher Butler: whate
Miguel Jagers: next
Christopher Butler: whatever,
Miguel Jagers: year.
Christopher Butler: a lemon. Yeah, l a lemon lemon or something.
John Goodman: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: And
John Goodman: I mean
Christopher Butler: that
John Goodman: the volume buttons could be lemons or something, maybe.
Christopher Butler: amount
John Goodman: Okay. So, we've what have we what have we rid of. We got rid of the plastic.
Christopher Butler: Yeah, we've the
John Goodman: Is
Christopher Butler: main
John Goodman: it
Christopher Butler: thing we've
Miguel Jagers: That
Christopher Butler: changed
John Goodman: The
Miguel Jagers: yeah,
John Goodman: rubber.
Miguel Jagers: that was
Christopher Butler: really
Miguel Jagers: uh
Christopher Butler: is
Miguel Jagers: that
Christopher Butler: the casing isn't it?
Miguel Jagers: was
Christopher Butler: We've
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: just about all. I think we've saved quite a bit because we've just got the push-button interface, which is by far the cheapest.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: But uh
Miguel Jagers: So maybe in a sense not having that, maybe we've lost some maybe lost something on the innovation side? I dunno. And that is like the most standard type of button.
John Goodman: So I mean, we've got we got rid of the rubber case, but we've now s we now sort of got an extra form, and an extra colour for the buttons. So maybe in terms of sort of fanciness and fashionability, we're pretty much the same,
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
John Goodman: maybe. So, I mean we could maybe put two again on them.
Miguel Jagers: And everything else has stayed pretty much the same,
Christopher Butler: Well,
Miguel Jagers: so
Christopher Butler: ease has certainly stayed.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, plus if anything
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: that is special forms makes it slightly easier to
Christopher Butler: Yeah.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: to use.
John Goodman: And what about the sort of innovation?
Miguel Jagers: Um,
John Goodman: Do you think
Miguel Jagers: well we've still got the kinetic energy. Um
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: And the speech feature.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, the speech feature.
John Goodman: And then, the corporate identity.
Miguel Jagers: I think we've cut just about the same. We've maybe lost Hasn't it It's hard to tell how the rubber the rubber
Christopher Butler: How
Miguel Jagers: casing
Christopher Butler: it would play
Miguel Jagers: would really
Christopher Butler: out,
Miguel Jagers: affect
Christopher Butler: yeah.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Oh.
John Goodman: Whether whether that's considered to be sort of part of the corporate identity, I don't know. I mean,
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: it's maybe not. I mean
Miguel Jagers: But I think more the the features of the actual control will be more important than maybe than the
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: the actual aesthetics, but
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: But either way, I think we've made it fairly close to what
John Goodman: Yeah. Okay,
Michael Isacs: Yeah,
John Goodman: well I
Michael Isacs: I
John Goodman: mean
Michael Isacs: don't see how we could make it any more. Um,
John Goodman: We cou
Michael Isacs: apart from maybe doing the whole thing in the kinda light shade of blue, like the casing.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isacs: But then what colour would you make the R_s?
Miguel Jagers: just the the company logo. So maybe there's like a set design which we get
Christopher Butler: Well,
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: but
Miguel Jagers: printed
Christopher Butler: you've got
Miguel Jagers: off.
Christopher Butler: the company logo on there, which would effectively be a stick-on badge.
Miguel Jagers: Okay.
Christopher Butler: So you're in a sense, you're comparing the product without the company logo.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: And then y but you've got the space for it
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: to stick
Miguel Jagers: yeah.
Christopher Butler: it on.
John Goodman: Hey, what what what's the company colour? Did you get told what the company colour is or
Miguel Jagers: I'm still not quite sure we've established that.
Michael Isacs: No, I just
Christopher Butler: Don't think
Michael Isacs: We
Christopher Butler: so.
Michael Isacs: got
Christopher Butler: But
Michael Isacs: the logo
Christopher Butler: but
Michael Isacs: off the
Christopher Butler: i
Michael Isacs: web
Christopher Butler: but
Michael Isacs: browser.
Christopher Butler: in the sense that, as you saw
John Goodman: Oh
Christopher Butler: with
John Goodman: right.
Christopher Butler: um the Windows logo badge, it doesn't really matter. There's virtually n The way that you frame, you know, the Windows badge on there, it really doesn't matter what
John Goodman: Hmm.
Christopher Butler: colour it is, so long as our company's logo is framed w in the same way as that with a
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: like a black outline. Fact, they've got black and white or black and silver. So
John Goodman: Mm.
Christopher Butler: basically, even if you had a silver the same colour of silver on your display, because you've got effectively a double edging on the uh on the logo, it means that it splits off what your logo is from the from the product. And
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: that's actually quite a sneaky way of doing it.
John Goodman: Uh-huh. 'Cause you've got sort of we've got point two to play with if you really wanted to.
Christopher Butler: You could put in another
John Goodman: Another colour. Or
Christopher Butler: Well,
John Goodman: would that
Christopher Butler: in
John Goodman: be
Christopher Butler: this
John Goodman: t
Christopher Butler: one, you've actually got three colours of buttons.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Well, we decided that the blue ones were the um the standard colour.
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: So you were talking about uh um We're assuming that all the buttons on the second panel, the hidden away panel, would all be standard.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: Which m may or may not be the case.
John Goodman: Yeah. Shall
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: we save the point two for profitability then?
Christopher Butler: Well, yeah. Bu but but uh was the was there not a button that you were thinking of on the um on the other opt you know, on the second page, as it were, that uh you were thinking of maybe having as a different colour?
Michael Isacs: Um, I don't think they would really need to be. I think if they were just all small round blue buttons, it'd be fine.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, maybe
Michael Isacs: Needs
Miguel Jagers: we've
Michael Isacs: to be
Miguel Jagers: m
Michael Isacs: an enter button, but could just be the same as well.
Miguel Jagers: Maybe for the the one they're gonna see all the time, we make it look good, and um,
John Goodman: Hmm.
Miguel Jagers: fit the kind of idea of what they want. And then for the more functional buttons, we don't worry too much about that and just have that as like a plus it's hidden away anyway, you're not gonna see it at the start.
John Goodman: Yeah. I mean it's the sort of thing that, I mean, you wanna pick up the controller and just hit a button quickly
Christopher Butler: Yeah,
John Goodman: to
Christopher Butler: well
John Goodman: change the channel or volume. So, if it's dead obvious, then that's fine. But if you're opening the panel and you're looking and you're tuning, then you're paying a bit more attention. So it may be sort of different colour buttons isn't so important.
Christopher Butler: Alright. Okay.
John Goodman: 'Cause you Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: So
John Goodman: So
Christopher Butler: we just add that to profitability in effect.
John Goodman: Yeah, I mean so
Michael Isacs: Mm-hmm.
John Goodman: we've dropped the cost, but
Christopher Butler: Right, so we're meant to finish up in five minutes.
John Goodman: Same sort of function? The criteria? It's alright.
Miguel Jagers: 'Kay.
John Goodman: Just made a load of money.
Michael Isacs: Shouldn't we maybe lose a point on fashion, go to a three? 'Cause we've lost the overall spongy feel. 'Cause it doesn't seem right that it just hasn't changed at all.
John Goodman: Well, but I think we said that w Because you got rid of the rubber, we put an extra an extra sort of fruit um shape on one of the buttons.
Michael Isacs: Alright.
John Goodman: le lemon
Michael Isacs: Did we
John Goodman: sh
Michael Isacs: decide what that was, which button it was?
John Goodman: I think well,
Michael Isacs: On the volume ones?
John Goodman: we could have lemon shaped ones with the volume ones or something.
Michael Isacs: Right.
Miguel Jagers: Uh,
John Goodman: Or something like
Miguel Jagers: That's
John Goodman: that.
Miguel Jagers: good.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Definitely lemon shaped.
John Goodman: Did did you have to have a rubber case, though, for rubber buttons? Or was it the other way around?
Miguel Jagers: You had to have rubber buttons if you had the rubber case.
John Goodman: Right,
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm.
John Goodman: okay.
Miguel Jagers: So I think we can we're
Christopher Butler: So
Miguel Jagers: okay.
Christopher Butler: we're okay this way around.
John Goodman: Yeah. So that so we've
Christopher Butler: Until
John Goodman: saved
Christopher Butler: the design team comes in and says, get off. But you are the design team.
Miguel Jagers: Then we say it's fine, so it's all good.
John Goodman: Saved two Euros on that.
Christopher Butler: So what bit are we on to?
Michael Isacs: Um, can I just check if that's a cherry or an apple? Did we decide against the apple because of Apple Mac? And did we make it
Christopher Butler: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: a cherry officially?
Christopher Butler: I th
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: I th Oh. Right, okay.
Miguel Jagers: Just in case we need that point two for lawsuits and such like.
Christopher Butler: Oh drats, I've botched that, haven't I.
Michael Isacs: So were we aiming for a certain target on that scale?
John Goodman: Well, we're aiming for um one for all of them. M but
Michael Isacs: Right.
John Goodman: it really has to fit into the budget, so I guess we just have to adjust things to get it i in the Which is fair enough.
Miguel Jagers: And we seem to have least something in each criteria.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: We haven't completely left anything out, so
John Goodman: Yeah, I think most
Miguel Jagers: As an overall product which has to be quite cheap, we've just about achieved
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: everything.
John Goodman: Yep.
Michael Isacs: So do we have anything else to discuss?
John Goodman: I don't know. What's on the agenda?
Christopher Butler: Right, okay um What's happened here?
Christopher Butler: Right, okay um
Christopher Butler: Mm. Right, okay um, Right. So we got
Miguel Jagers: We've got the
Christopher Butler: So
Miguel Jagers: closing.
Christopher Butler: we've done the the finance bit and the Excel project and the We've done the redesign. So we're now on to project process. Now satisfaction with, for example, room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, means, et cetera, whiteboard, digital pens, et cetera. So, we're actually now uh, in a sense, on to the evaluation of the course rather than the evaluation of the project is
John Goodman: Uh-huh.
Christopher Butler: m my understanding of it. So what did you and remembering that nobody's just over the curtain. So, um
John Goodman: Finish your meeting now.
Miguel Jagers: We should just go through
Michael Isacs: Huh.
Miguel Jagers: this quickly and then
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: So I suppose the easiest way of doing it is to put some notes down, which I will do.
John Goodman: Okay.
Christopher Butler: So, uh I think I have to finish that page.
John Goodman: Oh.
Christopher Butler: Right, okay, so
Christopher Butler: Project evaluation. So, um Creativity. Did you feel you got a chance to express yourselves well enough?
Miguel Jagers: Um, yeah.
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Well
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: um
John Goodman: I thought some of the divisions though between sort of the individual meetings were a bit arbitrary.
Christopher Butler: Individual meetings. How do you mean?
John Goodman: Yeah. Well, we were finding out various things in
Christopher Butler: In you on your own.
John Goodman: in be in-between the meetings, and they didn't the one meeting didn't always follow on for the other one, you know, sort of we had things thrown in at the second meeting where,
Christopher Butler: Um
John Goodman: you know, you'd looked at the remote controls and seen the curviness, but in the first one you'd also looked at some remote controls and looked at the buttons, and I don't understand why it would be in separate meetings that you'd do that. You know, you'd sort of you'd probably present it at one or something like that.
Christopher Butler: Mm, The only thing you find is in a manufacturing process, you would normally, you go to a meeting, you decide, right, you do this, you do that, you do that.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Then you go away. You find out information. You then come back. You then discuss it. You then
John Goodman: Uh-huh.
Christopher Butler: go and change things around, and then go back.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: So
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, I suppose and then be going out and finding more information each time and
Christopher Butler: Whereas,
Miguel Jagers: then diff
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: things will
Christopher Butler: this
Miguel Jagers: be relevant.
Christopher Butler: time, you're really getting it from a database source, so it's not
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: uh well uh Anyway, so, what do you want to put down? I've put, seemed okay. Creativity, seemed okay. Um um flow of information on on any given subject given subject um sometimes disjointed.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: I think it maybe could have been a slightly more creative project. I mean a remote control isn't the most um
John Goodman: Yeah, the thing
Michael Isacs: kind
John Goodman: itself.
Michael Isacs: of fancy thing
Christopher Butler: Um
Michael Isacs: that you could imagine designing.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: at the minute.
Christopher Butler: Have could have used a different example pel to increase
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Is this go
Christopher Butler: create
Miguel Jagers: It kinda kis fits the purpose that it was something everyone knows about and then
Christopher Butler: Creativity.
Miguel Jagers: something we can at least look at and think
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: how we
Christopher Butler: You
Miguel Jagers: can improve
Christopher Butler: have to do it
Miguel Jagers: on.
Christopher Butler: within a set time frame is the other thing, so
John Goodman: Yeah. But think like it was a bit restrictive just to say that you have to design a television remote control, in a way. I mean it depends what sort of business you're in, I guess. I mean this one seems. From the website it looks it's quite innovative, but we're coming up with some bucket shop product aren't we that's, you know,
Miguel Jagers: one of those things.
John Goodman: fifteen
Miguel Jagers: Like uh,
John Goodman: quid.
Miguel Jagers: companies can have like a range of products and
Christopher Butler: I th
Miguel Jagers: I don't know how it works
Christopher Butler: I uh
Miguel Jagers: but
Christopher Butler: d
Miguel Jagers: I guess that something got sent out and have like a brief to kind of
Christopher Butler: But the other thing is that uh they're I'm guessing that they're trying to use this um software to to demonstrate how you could uh do a project. I
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: mean, m my wife at the moment, for instance, is uh acting as a computer um for um you normally, you got a problem, so you go to your tutor and find out information to see how
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Butler: to get it fixed. So what she's doing is she's having to spend a day at the computer terminal at one end so that any student that comes along can uh ask whatever question. And then you or the idea is that the whichever uh person's at the other end can point them in the right direction, show them where to either give them directly give them help, or secondly, point them in the right direction, either at the library, or uh or or come back, or go and see Joe Bloggs, or whatever. So uh, and that was a project I suspect similar to this, because they they were actually trying to debug the uh computer software to enable um to enable it to work. And
John Goodman: Hmm.
Christopher Butler: of course, you had the
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: machine crashing and various things going wrong.
Miguel Jagers: Well,
John Goodman: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: sh we look at
Christopher Butler: So
Miguel Jagers: the last slide, see if it's got anything else. I think
Christopher Butler: Alright,
Miguel Jagers: there's one
Christopher Butler: so we've got
Miguel Jagers: one more
Christopher Butler: uh
Miguel Jagers: to go.
John Goodman: Yeah. I mean if you look at their products on their website here, Real Reaction, I mean it's all pretty high-tech and cutting edge.
Christopher Butler: New
John Goodman: And
Christopher Butler: ideas found, did we find any, no.
Miguel Jagers: It was quite good with this um the white board, having that and the digital pens. Like, that's something
Christopher Butler: Alright.
Miguel Jagers: that made
John Goodman: Yeah.
Miguel Jagers: it a little easier.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Leadership, teamwork.
John Goodman: we did find a new idea, I mean sort of a kinetic remote control. I've never seen one of them before. batteries, I think. So
Christopher Butler: Does
Miguel Jagers: voice recognition, especially not could
John Goodman: Mm yeah.
Christopher Butler: You've got voice recognition computers, that's
Miguel Jagers: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: not remote controls.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: Well it's a different application of it.
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah,
Christopher Butler: Okay,
Miguel Jagers: so it's just like the same products, but just put together in a different way.
John Goodman: Mm.
Christopher Butler: so how do you reckon teamwork went?
Miguel Jagers: Um
John Goodman: That went okay, yeah.
Miguel Jagers: Yeah, I guess we all had separate ideas and then discussed them.
John Goodman: Mm-hmm,
Michael Isacs: Yeah.
John Goodman: yeah.
Christopher Butler: To uh go uh reasonably well. Okay.
John Goodman: I don't think sort of the budget um allowed
Christopher Butler: Bit
John Goodman: us to do anything
Christopher Butler: bit arbitrary.
John Goodman: Well, I mean I don't think it I just don't think it fitted in with the rest of their products. I mean, they've got all these sort of, you know,
Christopher Butler: Mm-hmm.
John Goodman: high definition D_V_D_ and portable seven inch d um lightweight computer screens, and uh I'm thinking, do you know, one cheap remote control doesn't really fit in. Surely
Christopher Butler: So,
John Goodman: they they should produ
Christopher Butler: we're m we're meant to comment on leadership and the means, E_ G_ whiteboard, digital pens, et cetera.
Michael Isacs: Well leadership's
Christopher Butler: And
Michael Isacs: a bit
Christopher Butler: and
Michael Isacs: of a funny
Christopher Butler: new
Michael Isacs: one,
Christopher Butler: i new
Michael Isacs: isn't
Christopher Butler: ideas
Michael Isacs: it.
Christopher Butler: found was the the other thing.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: But we can't really all fairly comment on leadership because you are Christopher Butler. You were the leader. So our experience of leadership wasn't really as
John Goodman: Yeah.
Michael Isacs: much as yours.
John Goodman: Yeah.
Christopher Butler: Now, I'd much rather be in marketing but I certainly didn't get this uh computer to work as well as I would have liked. However, um Alright uh means, so whiteboard um so really, it's uh equipment. Oh.
John Goodman: Yeah. It worked.
Michael Isacs: Yeah,
John Goodman: Comput
Michael Isacs: very nice.
John Goodman: computers could be a bit difficult at times but
Michael Isacs: But I mean, I d I don't I'm not sure I see the value in these. I mean, they record what you're writing, and then what do you do with it? Where do you get the recording? Do you plug
John Goodman: I
Michael Isacs: the
John Goodman: think
Michael Isacs: computer or something?
John Goodman: there's a little there's a little um
Miguel Jagers: So
John Goodman: chi
Miguel Jagers: it's not just for us, it's for the experiment as a whole, so
John Goodman: There's a little there's a little chip, I think you must plug
Miguel Jagers: Should
John Goodman: it into
Miguel Jagers: we quickly
John Goodman: something
Miguel Jagers: look at
John Goodman: and
Miguel Jagers: the last
John Goodman: it
Miguel Jagers: slide?
John Goodman: produces
Miguel Jagers: Sh
Michael Isacs: Right.
John Goodman: a
Michael Isacs: I think you watch a video of it kind of.
John Goodman: I don't know. Whether it just produces a big image of sort of everything you've written or something, and Page
Christopher Butler: Right.
John Goodman: after page.
Christopher Butler: New ideas found, so one or two.
John Goodman: Yeah. Kinetic powered remote control. Um, what was the other one?
Michael Isacs: Voice um
John Goodman: Vo yeah.
Michael Isacs: recognition thing.
Christopher Butler: um and uh voice uh, was it voice activated um
John Goodman: Voice recognition, yeah.
Christopher Butler: recognition.
John Goodman: S
John Goodman: Almost. To
Michael Isacs: Pretty much.
John Goodman: fill in these fill in these
Christopher Butler: Right,
John Goodman: questionnaires
Christopher Butler: so,
John Goodman: Oh
Christopher Butler: uh
John Goodman: no.
Christopher Butler: are the costs within budget, yes. Is the project evaluated, yes. Uh, don't forget to complete final questionnaire and meeting summary. Then celebration.
Miguel Jagers: Is that
John Goodman: Hmm?
Miguel Jagers: everything?
John Goodman: I think that we've got two questionnaires and a
Christopher Butler: Yeah.
John Goodman: report on the last meeting.
Christopher Butler: Uh, so we don't re So really I tried to save this the last time at twelve point three, and it didn't seem to have saved anywhere. Mind you, the the figure last was was different, but it should be poss | The first prototype for the remote control was made of single-curved rubber with a total of 16 rubber buttons (some of them in a slide-out panel) with a cherry design on top. It uses kinetic energy and has a sample sensor for the speech recognition. The initial cost was calculated at 13.70 Euros. Although over budget, the team decided to evaluate this prototype before making any changes. On a scale from 1 (true) to 7 (false) they rated it on the basis of the following criteria: fancy design (2), technological innovation (2), ease of use (1), incorporation of fashion elements (2), and brand recognition (2). Changing the rubber case to plastic reduced the cost and allowed for an extra button-form and colour. The team were reasonably satisfied with the project in terms of teamwork and creativity, although they thought that the flow of information was sometimes disjointed. However, the idea of designing a remote control seemed unexciting, especially since the requirements restricted it to TV only, and the budget was too small. Finally, some new ideas were also found in the form of kinetic energy source and use of speech recognition. | 1 | amisum | test |
Jason Warren: Okay. Yeah. That's okay. That's okay.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Am I starting now? Anytime? Oh sorry 'Kay. um. Alright, welcome back fro to the second meeting. And um I hope you had a productive last thirty minutes. Um, and um, I'll be taking minutes on this one, and um Being hooked up to the PowerPoint for this meeting isn't very necessary for uh myself, because it'll be more about uh, what you guys are bringing to the meeting today. Um, so, the first presentation we'll be looking at is Poppy's presentation And. um So, sorry? So, um, take it away Poppy.
Jason Warren: Okay. Um, do I need to
Charles Archibald: It's, it's plugged in. So,
Jason Warren: plugged
Charles Archibald: um
Jason Warren: in.
Charlie Hunsaker: F_ eight, w. Function F_
Jason Warren: F_
Charlie Hunsaker: eight
Jason Warren: okay. Function F_ eight. Sorry about this guys.
Charles Archibald: No problem.
Jason Warren: 'Kay. is on. Right. Okay. I will take this time just to apologise. I, I only, uh, received my emails later on. 'Cause I was too busy carried away doing my own thing, which is not obviously not a very good part of a team-working thing. But there we go.
Charles Archibald: I'm sure it's fine.
Jason Warren: Um, so I was looking at how we're going to go about the working design, and what we actually need to do, and what the remote control needs to do. And it needs to um allow a person to have a portable desi device, so they can control the television from wherever they are. They don't need to actually manually touch the television set. So, it gives them much more flexibility, and allows them to be where they want to be. Um, from Uh, on a functional side of things, we found out that wh from our previous meeting, we decided that there're certain points that will make our product unique. Um, one is the visibility in the dark, which was um Genevieve's idea. So we need to think about how we could bring this in um technically. And we could use illuminated buttons, which we are all familiar with when we're using a mobile phone, or um something fam familiar. A automatically, um lights up at first touch. Or we could use fluorescent materials which would just um take in the light during the day, and then as soon as they go off they would glow in the dark. Um, also we could use um an alarm. So if we lost the um remote control, perhaps there could be a button on the television set itself, which you could press, and then an alarm from the handset would sound where it was, hopefully in the room. Maybe behind a cushion or somewhere. Um, so that would work. Um, oop. Go back there. Um, another thing I think we d missed out on on the last meeting was the fact that we should consider the environmental impact of our design. Um, from previous researches I've carried out on other projects, um we've learnt about smart materials where um um specific alloys of metals have a shape memory. So they can be heated and um and cooled, and they change the shape of um the metal. So, for example, a screw that's holding something together could expand and it would force all the components apart. So um, the benefits of this for our product would be that when it came to the end of its product life, if it was heated, um everything would spring apart. So, all the um individual components could be easily separated, and then some could be reused, some could be recycled, and I think that would be very important for products now. Especially 'cause there's much uh responsibility for all the um companies who are coming up with like new designs. 'Cause all, we all know that our resources are being limited, and we have to be very environmentally conscious.
Charles Archibald: Right, um, one question.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: This, um, self-destructible uh metal, it allows for recycling materials?
Jason Warren: Um
Charles Archibald: So that, um, someone could have this product for as long as they felt that they wanted it, and then once
Jason Warren: And then
Charles Archibald: they contribute it, then that company can break
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: down the part, the parts better?
Jason Warren: Yeah they would, um you would make the, the product as you normally would, apart from the, the bits that hold it all together would be made out of this shape-memory alloy. And that's the part that would um allow all the other parts to be separated at the end. I mean, the user would return the p product to the company, 'cause it's the product's responsibility to get rid of what they've made. Um, and then the company could then just use, make use of this shape-memory alloys to split up the components,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: and then either reuse some bits, and other bits which are obviously gonna wear out with time, or not usable, they might be like be able to put into scrap metal. Something like the case, if it's scratched or something, you would want to reuse it, but you might be able to melt it down and
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: reuse it again somewhere else.
Charles Archibald: Would we be the company that would break down these, or uh metals? Or would
Jason Warren: You
Charles Archibald: we
Jason Warren: could we could probably
Charles Archibald: contribute
Jason Warren: empl
Charles Archibald: to another
Jason Warren: em
Charles Archibald: group?
Jason Warren: employ a, a side company or something to do that for us. But it would be our responsibility to get that done and to dispose of the products that we made. For a certain percentage at least.
Charles Archibald: Alright.
Jason Warren: Not every, not a hundred percent of everything we produce,
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Warren: but
Charles Archibald: This sounds like a really great idea. One thing we have to consider is our uh one hundred percent um turnover goal that we have
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: for our financial
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: sector. Um, so we'll have to investigate how much that will cost
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: us, cost the company, um 'cause it sounds very labour-intensive. You would have to hire a number of people, and it might be more expensive.
Jason Warren: Well I the fact of the shape-memory alloys is that they, they don't need to be manually de um deconstructed. Like, you don't have to individually um unscrew all the screws. Because of this, their properties are smart material. All
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: you need is just the heat, so they self-destruct themselves.
Charles Archibald: Alright.
Jason Warren: So
Charles Archibald: We'll still
Jason Warren: I
Charles Archibald: have
Jason Warren: suppose
Charles Archibald: to investigate
Jason Warren: it does need
Charles Archibald: the
Jason Warren: like
Charles Archibald: financial
Jason Warren: high
Charles Archibald: implications.
Jason Warren: contact, yeah, you know high uh quality machinery, and very specific machinery, but
Charles Archibald: Alright. I like the environmental approach. Um,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: we'll have to see if that can meet our financial
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: goals as well.
Jason Warren: Um also there is um components. This'll be how it uh will actually work. But I haven't put this plan together yet.
Charles Archibald: I'm
Jason Warren: There
Charles Archibald: sorry,
Jason Warren: we
Charles Archibald: could
Jason Warren: go.
Charles Archibald: you
Jason Warren: Sorry, should I go
Charles Archibald: Those
Jason Warren: back.
Charles Archibald: were um
Jason Warren: show the circuit diagram. Although I haven't come up with the final circuit yet.
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Warren: So I just put all those components in.
Charles Archibald: So those are what, um, we'll c construct the remote. Those
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: are all the
Jason Warren: I it just shows what sort of energy source. It could be a battery, like rechargeable probably. Um, an' yeah, well how the infrared will actually be sent through the chip to be received by the chip on the television set itself.
Charles Archibald: Alright. Great.
Jason Warren: Okay? So, now is it F_ eight again to escape? Or escape? There we go. Okay.
Charles Archibald: Alright. Thank you very much.
Jason Warren: Thank you.
Charles Archibald: And, um, the next presenter will be Tara.
Jason Warren: There you go Tara.
Charlie Hunsaker: Thanks. Can you see?
Jason Key: Oh,
Charlie Hunsaker: Do you think Is it uh, function eight yeah?
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Function
Jason Key: Function F_
Jason Warren: F_
Charles Archibald: Function
Jason Key: eight
Jason Warren: eight.
Charles Archibald: F_ eight. Sorry.
Jason Warren: The one at the top.
Charlie Hunsaker: Oh right. Okay.
Jason Key: That looks right.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Okay. I'm the User um User Interface Designer. Uh, the technical functions design of the apparatus is the effect the apparatus should have. Um, in this case it's the function of the remote control, which is to send messages to the television, television set. By inspiration from other similar designs we'll try and come up with an original There're two functional design options. A multifunctional remote control, which can be used for several entertainment devices. And a single function remote control, used specifically for the television.
Jason Key: I'm sorry, what was that last one. Multifunctional and
Charlie Hunsaker: Sorry. Um, a single function just for the television itself.
Jason Key: Ch Oh, I see.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah. Um, multifunctional controls can be difficult to use, as the multitude of buttons can be confusing. A single function remote control is simpler to use, but it means you have to have other remote controls for your other entertainment devices.
Jason Key: 'Kay.
Charlie Hunsaker: Um, I think that a single function remote control would be preferable, because it's easier to use. It'd be more compatible with a range of television sets, making it more internationally sellable. Um, it will make an original design more obtainable, as we have less functional necessities to include in the design. And it would be more profitable as it would be more simplistic. And less functions would have to be included. So it would be cheaper to make. And probably more sellable just because it's more compatible with a r a wider range of devices. Does anyone have any questions?
Jason Key: So as far as we know, um, a single function television remote control is us usable internationally?
Charlie Hunsaker: Well, it's just that, when we're creating it, we're, we have to make it um compatible with different brands of devices.
Jason Key: Right.
Charlie Hunsaker: And it would be easier to make it compatible with just different brands of television devices rather than other
Jason Key: D_V_D_s
Charlie Hunsaker: ent,
Jason Key: and V_C_R_?
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah,
Jason Key: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Right.
Charlie Hunsaker: other entertainment devices.
Charles Archibald: Does everyone agree with this? Does anyone object and, and find the multifunctional might be a better way to go?
Jason Warren: Um, I was just wondering about the, what, what Genevieve said before, about having like some hidden controls like having the outer casing. And that would probably, um, I d, well well what you said before about it being a more profitable simplistic design. I suppose
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: having that would complicate it a lot more.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: And limit the design. Do you think?
Jason Key: Yeah, I think I agree with the single design thing for now, because we're trying to do so much, that if we're trying a unique user-friendly,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: dadada, also multi also multifunctional, um, we're gonna go over budget for one thing. So
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah. That's true.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: And with this we'll have more room in the budget probably to make a more original design.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: We'll have more money to
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: go into the design side of it.
Jason Warren: Okay. Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Alright. Sounds great.
Jason Key: Mm, 'kay.
Charles Archibald: Alright, well, um, are you ready for your presentation Genevieve?
Jason Key: Yes I am.
Charles Archibald: Fabulous. Except you're not
Jason Key: Oh,
Charles Archibald: hooked
Jason Key: I'm
Charles Archibald: up to the
Jason Key: not hooked up, but other than that, completely ready.
Charles Archibald: Great.
Jason Key: Okay.
Jason Key: Okay. Oh. I just lost my microphone.
Charles Archibald: No
Jason Key: Just
Charles Archibald: problem,
Jason Key: a moment.
Charles Archibald: we can
Jason Key: Okay. So I'll be discussing the functional requirements of this remote control. Um, and I'll give you a little briefing on what that means exactly. Um, if you all remember from the email we got before our very first uh kick-off meeting, with the coffee machine? The functional requirements of that was to produce hot coffee quickly. Um, so what I'll be talking about now is the equivalent for a remote control. Um, so basically what needs and desires are to be fulfilled. Um, I've done some marketing research, a lot of interviews with remote control users, um, and some internet research. And I'll show you my findings. Oh, and firstly I wanted to remind you about our company motto and purpose. So we believe in providing international market with fashionable products. Um, hence our motto, we put the fashion in electronics. So I think that should be our priority here. Um, and we should also be looking to trends in clothing and interior design. Not just in electronic fashion. So that it's something that fits in the household.
Charles Archibald: I'm sorry, what was that last thing that you just said?
Jason Key: Um, we should be looking towards trends in both clothing and interior design.
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Key: Any trends that are going on in, in
Jason Warren: Mm.
Jason Key: the public, even media, you know who's famous, what T_V_ shows are being
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: watched, um, to influence our remote control. Okay, so the findings. Um, seventy five percent of users of remote controls find them ugly. Which is a, quite a significant number. Um, the other twenty five percent didn't specify if they love them or found them, you know, neutral. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user.
Charles Archibald: I'm sorry, that eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. You mean that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking
Jason Key: Yeah, they're willing,
Charles Archibald: remote control?
Jason Key: they're willing to spend money on a remote control with personality. As
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Key: opposed to your basic, you know, oval
Jason Warren: Mm.
Jason Key: black,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: all same size button remote control. Um, so it is something that people care about. It's not, it's not ignored in the household. Um, seventy five percent of remote control users said that they zap a lot. Zapping meaning they go through channels a lot. They're
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Jason Key: you know thumb-masters. Um, and fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. That A very small amount. Thought that was interesting.
Charles Archibald: Alright, so
Jason Warren: Mm.
Charles Archibald: it might be very appealing if, um,
Jason Warren: the single
Charles Archibald: we
Jason Warren: function.
Charles Archibald: have very concise buttons. And
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: another thing with um lots of surfing, we'd probably have to work on something that could be um a lot more durable, because I find with um channel-changers that, um,
Jason Key: Yes.
Charles Archibald: a lot of the numbers get rubbed down if they're
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: printed on
Jason Warren: Yeah
Charles Archibald: the button.
Jason Warren: that's
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: a good point.
Jason Key: And actually to go with that, I'm gonna give you some statistics on the uh relevancy of the buttons, how much they're used. And uh how important the uh users find them. So the power button, obviously, in an hour is only used once. Hopefully the person's not turning on and off the T_V_. Um, but the relevance of that button is nine out of ten. So people wanna be able to turn on the T_V_ with the remote control. Um, as opposed to standing up and turning on the television set. Channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times on average per hour. That's a huge amount. This is the most important button. Um, so obviously when commercials come on they're changing it, so as you said we want a durable button that's not gonna run down. Relevance of that button, our users found was uh ten, ten out of ten. Uh, ditto for volume selection, so ten out of ten. And it's used on average four times an hour. Not as much as channel selection, but still significant. Um, audio settings is used on average zero point eight times an hour. Relevance is two. Screen settings, which means brightness, colour etcetera, zero point five times an hour. Um, and relevance of one point five. We're getting to specific statistics here. Teletext, um, now I'm not too clear on what that is. I don't know if you can help Jason Key. Flipping pages. Is
Charlie Hunsaker: It's
Jason Key: that
Charlie Hunsaker: um
Jason Warren: It's like the news. Or like
Charlie Hunsaker: It has
Jason Warren: information.
Charlie Hunsaker: T_V_ has like information, it has information on holidays, the news,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: entertainment.
Jason Warren: The and
Jason Key: So
Jason Warren: what's
Jason Key: like
Charles Archibald: It's
Jason Key: a
Jason Warren: on.
Jason Key: running
Charles Archibald: um
Jason Key: banner, underneath
Charles Archibald: No it's
Charlie Hunsaker: No,
Charles Archibald: a button
Charlie Hunsaker: li
Charles Archibald: that you
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: press, and then you, uh, like a menu pops up.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: I haven't used it before
Jason Key: Oh.
Charles Archibald: but
Jason Warren: It's
Charlie Hunsaker: And you
Jason Warren: like
Charlie Hunsaker: have page numbers like for the menu, and you press the page numbers with your remote, and
Jason Key: Okay.
Jason Warren: It's like
Charlie Hunsaker: it,
Jason Warren: very
Charlie Hunsaker: it'll come up.
Jason Warren: basic internet.
Charlie Hunsaker: Very
Jason Warren: Sort
Charlie Hunsaker: basic
Jason Warren: of,
Charlie Hunsaker: internet,
Jason Warren: um
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah.
Jason Key: Okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: But you
Jason Key: Like
Charlie Hunsaker: have
Jason Key: tells you the weather, and
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah. But
Jason Key: Okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: you have no interaction back with it, you know. Like the internet you can send emails
Jason Warren: Yeah,
Charlie Hunsaker: and
Jason Key: Right.
Jason Warren: it's
Charlie Hunsaker: You've
Jason Warren: just
Charlie Hunsaker: no interaction.
Jason Warren: information that um, like television timetables, what's on, what's on now, what's on next, on every
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: channel, and
Jason Key: Alright. Well I guess I'm not with it, because I wasn't But it's, it's being used fourteen times an hour. Um, and has a r a high relevance of six point five. So it looks like something that we're gonna want to do some research on and
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: include
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: on our remote control. Channel settings.
Charlie Hunsaker: Uh, probably just tuning in the channels, would
Jason Key: P
Charlie Hunsaker: it be?
Jason Key: Sorry. Changing the channels?
Charlie Hunsaker: Tuning them in at the very start. You know if you get a new T_V_ set, you tune in all the channels,
Jason Key: Oh, okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: do you th
Jason Warren: To get
Charlie Hunsaker: do you
Jason Warren: the
Charlie Hunsaker: think?
Jason Warren: right reception
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: and
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: Yeah.
Jason Warren: picture,
Jason Key: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Mm.
Jason Warren: I suppose.
Jason Key: Um, so it's not used very often, but people still find it relevant. Okay. Um, biggest frustrations of uh the people that we interviewed. Remote controls are often lost somewhere. So that was already discussed by Poppy. How we could have a, an alarm system so that people can find it. Um, takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. So it should be very user-friendly, you know. People know what to do very quickly. Um, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_.
Jason Warren: Repetitive
Charlie Hunsaker: Repeti
Jason Warren: strain
Charlie Hunsaker: Uh.
Jason Warren: injury.
Jason Key: Ah.
Jason Warren: I
Jason Key: Is
Jason Warren: think.
Jason Key: that what it is? People with arthritis and such?
Charles Archibald: That's rather sad.
Jason Key: Um, maybe
Jason Warren: Oh,
Jason Key: our
Jason Warren: I'm guessing that's what it is.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah,
Jason Warren: I'm not
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah. I think
Jason Key: designers
Charlie Hunsaker: it is.
Jason Key: can look into that. Um,
Jason Warren: Mm.
Jason Key: buttons that don't require, you know, very firm
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: pushing, if they respond. But we'll have to also avoid, you know, buttons responding to the slightest touch as well. That's a problem.
Jason Warren: Yeah. It is.
Jason Key: Okay. Did you guys uh get that one down?
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Yep.
Jason Key: Um okay, here's some ideas for you. A large percentage of the public would pay for voice recognition on the remote controls. So I'll show you some numbers here. Um, so the youngest age group, fifteen to twenty five. Ninety one point two percent said that they would pay extra money to have voice recogni voice recognition included on their remote control. Um, and you can see that number decreases a bit with ol s Interestingly enough, twenty five to thirty five is the lowest amount. Um, that would, are willing to pay extra. So I guess we're gonna have to figure out what age group we're, we're targeting, and if and if voice recognition is something we wanna look into. And if we have the budget for it. Um, if we are targeting young adults, it looks like something that would pay off. Seeing as ninety percent, over ninety percent would pay for it.
Charles Archibald: I agree with um if we're targeting young adults then it would be something we should look into.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Um, financially and and functionally. Um, and especially if we are um trying to be trendy, go with fashions,
Jason Warren: Mm.
Charles Archibald: things like that. Um, ages like from thirty five to sixty five which show lower numbers probably won't be as concerned.
Jason Key: So that, that's a whole other field of research. I don't know if it'd be, if we'd still have a remote, or if you're talking to your television and saying change channel. Um and depending
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Key: on how many members
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: you have in households. So it m it may be too complicated for us, but it's something
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: to keep in mind anyway.
Charles Archibald: And something that might further complicate it is that the T_V_ makes noise itself.
Jason Key: Right.
Charles Archibald: Wonder
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: if it would have
Jason Warren: And if there was conversation in the room at the same time,
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: although in theory it doesn't tend to be when you're watching television, but could be very difficult to get the specific uh
Charles Archibald: Yeah. If we're looking for a
Jason Warren: design.
Charles Archibald: simplistic design, if
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: We need to decide if that is our um intention is, is a simplistic
Jason Warren: Mm.
Charles Archibald: design. Um, because if, if it is then I think voice, um voice-activated
Jason Key: It looks like
Charles Archibald: Yeah, and that would sort of negate the whole remote control thing, because
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: if people can activate the television with their voice
Jason Key: It'd
Charles Archibald: then they
Jason Key: be
Charles Archibald: won't
Jason Key: like
Charles Archibald: be
Jason Key: the
Charles Archibald: using
Jason Key: ultimate
Charles Archibald: a,
Jason Key: remote.
Charles Archibald: they won't be talking into a remote, I'm sure.
Jason Key: Um okay. And th the last thing here was a, an L_C_D_ screen. So, I mean voice recognition might be a little too extreme for us. Not practical. Um an L_C_D_ screen though might be something that, you know, you can shift through pages kind of li the way this PowerPoint is working.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: So that you don't have so many buttons to deal with.
Charles Archibald: Um, I don't know what an L_C_D_ screen is.
Jason Key: Oh sorry, just, just a screen, like a computer screen. S Or like um
Charlie Hunsaker: Mobile phone.
Jason Key: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Mm.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: Or Like an alarm clock. You'd have an L_C_D_ versus just a,
Jason Warren: What,
Jason Key: a
Jason Warren: what
Jason Key: normal
Jason Warren: would
Jason Key: clock.
Jason Warren: appear on the screen?
Charles Archibald: I have no idea still. I'm sorry.
Jason Key: Oh just like an electronic screen. As opposed to just buttons. There would be like a little,
Charles Archibald: Oh, on
Jason Key: like
Charles Archibald: the remote.
Jason Key: on Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Key: Like on the top of a cellphone, the the little
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: L_C_D_ screen. Um, now that's, I, I dunno exactly what exactly we'd put on there. I guess the channel that you're on,
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: the v the volume setting.
Charlie Hunsaker: Could it it It would be good if it had the actual programme that was on, and what was next. But that would probably be
Jason Warren: Like linked in with the teletext,
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: or sort
Charlie Hunsaker: That
Jason Warren: of like
Charlie Hunsaker: would be
Jason Warren: an
Charlie Hunsaker: good, yeah.
Jason Warren: teletext at your fingers, without having
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: to access that through the television.
Charlie Hunsaker: Might be quite expensive to do that though.
Jason Warren: Mm, Yeah. Could be.
Jason Key: Well
Charles Archibald: Right.
Jason Key: I guess that's something we can all take back to our respective research.
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Jason Key: Um, and finally, whoops, my personal preferences and thoughts. Um, I think our priority really should be unique design. Um, we want something that people want in their home. Every remote control looks the same, so uh in my opinion it should be, um, user-friendly and unique. So the other stuff might be a little too, a little too gadgety for some people.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Um, I th myself, voice recognition kind of scares Jason Key off. So if we're, if we're
Jason Warren: Mm.
Jason Key: aiming to make this an international university, universally accepted product Um, and for all, the other thing is like age market. I mean if we wanted to concentrate on fifteen to twenty five years olds, we could go for the fancy stuff. But if we wanna make fifty million, and and have everyone want this remote control, we should maybe stick to the basics.
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: And we should keep in mind that fifteen to twenty five year olds might not have twenty five Euros to spend on a remote control.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: Like their priorities might not be a fancy remote control, when they're just starting out and,
Jason Key: Right. And we have to
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah.
Jason Key: keep in mind the, the reliability of our research. I mean, you know, a sixteen year old boy would say, yeah I'd pay extra for voice recognition, until they realise that's three months allowance.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: Um,
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: so I I think, I think the older generations we should be catering to a bit more.
Charlie Hunsaker: Early twenties,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: that's the kind of age group.
Charles Archibald: And if one of the largest,
Charlie Hunsaker: Twenties.
Charles Archibald: uh, or most complained about thing is that it takes so long to get to know how
Jason Key: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: to use a
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: remote control, I'm sure that something like an L_C_D_ screen or remote control would be just furthering that problem.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Yep.
Jason Warren: Complicated
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: jus complicating things even fo
Charles Archibald: Alright.
Jason Warren: Mm.
Jason Key: Okay.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Jason Key: That's it for the market research.
Charles Archibald: Okay. Before we go into uh more discussion on we want this design to look like, I've received some information from the management that will affect some of our decisions. Um, for one thing, because Having controls with D_V_D_, V_C_R_, that sort of thing, would really complicate the design of the remote control. Um, we've decided not to include them and make it a specific, just a specific television um function. decided that we would like to go with that anyway. Um, for many reasons. So um we have that decision sort of made for us. Another thing that might um affect other decisions is that um the management feels that teletext is outdated, because more people are using the internet now. And so uh we won't concern ourselves with um navigating the teletext option.
Jason Warren: Can I just interrupt?
Charles Archibald: Yep.
Jason Warren: Would you like to plug in
Jason Key: Yeah. Maybe we
Jason Warren: your
Jason Key: can do the
Jason Warren: Have
Charles Archibald: Okay,
Jason Warren: you
Charles Archibald: sure.
Jason Warren: got a PowerPoint or not?
Charles Archibald: Yeah I do. I'm
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: looking at
Jason Warren: Thanks.
Charles Archibald: looking at it right now.
Jason Key: There you go.
Charles Archibald: thank you.
Jason Key: Oh, come back screen. Hmm.
Jason Warren: Were they, was the management suggesting use of the internet rather than teletext, or just avoiding both altogether?
Charles Archibald: Um, well, I mean we don't have the resources or
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: or possibility
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: of using the internet with the remote control, but um they were just pretty much saying that
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: the teletext would not
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: be used.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Alright, and another thing. This is for the design, the design of the product is that um we wanna create, um more of a sense that people know that this is from our company. So,
Jason Warren: Right.
Charles Archibald: um, all the remote controls must have our um We'll incorporate our logo and colour in in
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: some way.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: So, um, perhaps um our logo on the bottom, or wherever you feel like it would look good.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Um, it doesn't have to be the colour of our um
Jason Warren: Just
Charles Archibald: of our company but, another thing is that, um we need to, we probably would have to have that colour and, and logo decided upon. Um, I'm assuming that we already have one, but for the purposes of this meeting I, I wasn't offered a, like a type of logo or colour, so
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: if that
Jason Warren: Work
Charles Archibald: could be
Jason Warren: on that.
Charles Archibald: um somewhere on the design so that we can be recognisable.
Jason Key: It's probably R_ R_R_ in yellow.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: The little R_ R_ yellow thing? Okay.
Jason Key: Yeah,
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Jason Key: I think.
Charles Archibald: Real Reaction? Okay. Um, yes, those are the changes. Um, so, now we need to discuss, um and come to a decision on our remote control functions, of, of how this is going to be. I'm just going to look at my notes for a second. Um, we have to decide on a target group and the functions of the remote control. So,
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: um, we already know that it'll just be for the television. It'll It won't have teletext. But um, you know, we could discuss um those other options that you brought up, Genevieve.
Jason Key: Okay, so I Are we going to write off the L_C_D_ option?
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Is
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: that
Jason Key: Yeah?
Charles Archibald: how most people feel about that?
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Key: So no L_C_D_, no teletext, and no voice recognition.
Charlie Hunsaker: I think it would be annoying though if I don't use teletext that much, but if it was on your T_V_, you'd want to be able to use it, if
Charles Archibald: Yeah, but another
Charlie Hunsaker: You'd
Charles Archibald: thing
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: is that if we're reaching an international crowd, um, I know for one that in North America there
Jason Key: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: is no such thing
Charlie Hunsaker: So
Charles Archibald: as teletext,
Charlie Hunsaker: is it just
Charles Archibald: so
Jason Key: Never
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: it'd be
Jason Key: heard
Charles Archibald: really
Jason Key: of it.
Charles Archibald: superfluous.
Charlie Hunsaker: Okay. Alright.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Right.
Charles Archibald: I don't know about other countries besides the U_K_. Do you know if anywhere else
Charlie Hunsaker: I don't
Jason Warren: I
Charlie Hunsaker: know.
Jason Warren: don't know.
Charles Archibald: has it?
Charlie Hunsaker: I don't
Jason Warren: More
Charlie Hunsaker: know.
Jason Warren: research required, I think.
Charles Archibald: Alright.
Jason Warren: But if Was it a management decision that we're
Charles Archibald: It was
Jason Warren: having
Charles Archibald: a management
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: decision,
Jason Warren: So
Charles Archibald: so it's, it's pretty much out of our hands at this point.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: Okay then.
Charles Archibald: 'Kay. So, I guess we're looking at something rather simple.
Jason Key: Um, well I guess, just from my findings it looks like we wanna minimise buttons.
Jason Warren: 'Kay.
Jason Key: Um.
Jason Warren: Minimal
Jason Key: And the What was the word they used? F findability is important.
Charles Archibald: Yeah. I think we should definitely go ahead with the alarm system idea
Jason Warren: Yeah
Charles Archibald: that you
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: had.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: 'Cause
Jason Warren: okay.
Charles Archibald: I'm sure that could be inex inexpensive because we could use the same kind of infrared
Jason Warren: Yeah. The same signalling.
Charles Archibald: the same
Jason Warren: I mean
Charles Archibald: signal through that and it could just like make a little beeping noise. It's not
Jason Warren: Or
Charles Archibald: that expensive
Jason Warren: vibrate
Charles Archibald: to do.
Jason Warren: just the same as a mobile phone. Like you just a,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: a buzz or something.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Okay. I like that idea.
Charlie Hunsaker: Would you be able to, um, put the little device anywhere? 'Cause uh isn't our remote control for all T_V_s, so
Jason Warren: If
Charlie Hunsaker: you'd ha
Jason Warren: Do you mean the the link between the
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah, with the button
Jason Warren: Well,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: that you pressed.
Charles Archibald: The button
Jason Warren: if the button
Charles Archibald: Oh.
Jason Warren: was actually on
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Oh,
Charlie Hunsaker: C 'cause
Jason Warren: yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: then it would only be a
Charles Archibald: Minor detail
Charlie Hunsaker: applicable
Charles Archibald: there.
Charlie Hunsaker: to one T_V_ set, so it would need to be something that
Jason Warren: Maybe
Charlie Hunsaker: you could stick somewhere,
Jason Warren: Yeah, yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: or something.
Jason Warren: Maybe
Charles Archibald: Yeah, it
Jason Warren: something
Charles Archibald: would have t
Jason Warren: adhesive that you could like stick onto the back of
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: any set that would be
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: um yeah not very obtrusive. Obviously something small that's
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah, that's a good point.
Charles Archibald: Yeah. Then it wouldn't, it probably wouldn't be able to use It would be able to use the same reception on the remote c control I guess, but the actual device would have to have its own
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: infrared
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: signaller. Okay.
Jason Warren: Yeah, okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: Would it need a battery then?
Charles Archibald: Maybe, um
Jason Warren: Pr probably.
Charles Archibald: Probably, I mean.
Jason Warren: Unless it could
Charles Archibald: That's your
Jason Warren: be
Charles Archibald: department you'll have to
Jason Key: Mm.
Charles Archibald: sort that out.
Jason Warren: Okay. Um, unless some way, it could have some universal connection to like the socket, the same socket that the T_V_'s supplied from. I mean the power for the T_V_.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: So,
Charles Archibald: Yeah, you'll
Jason Warren: mm,
Charles Archibald: have to Yeah,
Jason Warren: more
Charles Archibald: you'll
Jason Warren: research
Charles Archibald: have to
Jason Warren: into
Charles Archibald: investi
Jason Warren: that one.
Jason Key: Mm.
Charles Archibald: Do
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: some research on that, alright? Great. Um, alright, and I'm sure that, um um, the glow-in-the-dark, fluorescent, whatever, system, um is a go ahead. Is
Jason Warren: Y
Charles Archibald: everyone interested
Jason Key: On
Charles Archibald: in
Jason Key: the buttons?
Charles Archibald: that?
Charlie Hunsaker: I I like the light up suggestion. I think that would
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: be better. 'Cause you know
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: the way fluorescent lights lose their brightness
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: after
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: certain time, so
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: I would
Jason Key: it
Charlie Hunsaker: go
Jason Key: doesn't
Charlie Hunsaker: for
Jason Key: It could it could be a tactile thing as well. Um right, if w if we're minimising buttons, we might be able to make them actually larger. And there's something on it. S you know like
Jason Warren: Like a raised
Jason Key: up arrow down arrow for, for volume. Um, and I don't know what we could do for, for channels. S
Charlie Hunsaker: Well just the numbers could be embossed, couldn't it? Like raised.
Jason Key: The numbers themselves.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: But then
Charlie Hunsaker: Could
Jason Key: the
Charlie Hunsaker: be
Jason Key: like
Charlie Hunsaker: raised.
Jason Key: up button and down button for the channel, channel changing.
Charlie Hunsaker: Just little arrows, that
Jason Key: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: you could feel,
Jason Warren: Yeah
Charlie Hunsaker: maybe?
Charles Archibald: Hmm.
Jason Key: I just thought that it, it might be sucking more battery power, if there, if it is a light up. I'm not sure.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: That's
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: true. And
Charles Archibald: But
Jason Warren: also
Charles Archibald: I mean
Jason Warren: y, uh Heather you mentioned before, um like how it should be accessible to everybody.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Um, so like big b um buttons, for people you are visually impaired.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: The glow-in-the-dark
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: or light up won't make any difference anyway. So like you
Charlie Hunsaker: That,
Jason Warren: say tactile
Charlie Hunsaker: I think that's
Jason Warren: might be
Charlie Hunsaker: good,
Jason Warren: better,
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah.
Jason Warren: because it'd be more available to
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: everybody.
Charles Archibald: Could we somehow We could, may, possibly, sorry, incorporate them both so that
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: the
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: buttons could maybe be in the shape of the numbers themselves and
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: be made out of some glow-in-the-dark
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: material.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: 'Cause
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: I d I don't think that glow-in-the-dark material, um, like the actual soft plastic, um, costs that much more
Charlie Hunsaker: No,
Jason Warren: No,
Charlie Hunsaker: I
Charles Archibald: than other
Charlie Hunsaker: wouldn't
Charles Archibald: colours.
Jason Warren: it's
Charlie Hunsaker: say so.
Jason Warren: not these days. I mean, it's quite easily
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: accessible.
Jason Key: I guess the other option, referring to the battery thing is, you know how cellphones will t light up for fifteen seconds
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: or something, when
Charlie Hunsaker: That's
Jason Key: you're s
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: good Yeah
Jason Key: and then
Charlie Hunsaker: that
Jason Key: it goes,
Charlie Hunsaker: a good
Jason Key: so
Charlie Hunsaker: idea.
Jason Key: if, if you're like changing the volume during a movie. I know, I'm thinking of mostly when
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: you're watching a movie you turn all the lights off right.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: And
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: you don't want to turn on the lights, to turn it down, because there's suddenly an explosion, and it's gonna wake up the baby.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: Um, so if you touch the button, it kind of reactivates it. It lights
Charlie Hunsaker: That,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: up for
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: that's a good idea.
Jason Key: On self timer.
Jason Warren: So self-timed lighting.
Jason Key: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Alright we have five minutes left
Jason Warren: Um,
Charles Archibald: um,
Jason Warren: I
Charles Archibald: for the meeting, but I think we should discuss this light subject a little bit more before we close. Um, what was I missed the last moment, reading that. What were you talking about with the lighting up buttons?
Jason Key: Oh, just if it was kinda the same way that a cell You know how a cellphone will light up for about ten, fifteen seconds when you touch a button, after
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: having not touched it for a while.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: Um, if instead of a constant light up on the, on the remote control, if it lights up for ten seconds when it's touched again.
Charles Archibald: Mm. So it could be any button that would be pressed.
Jason Key: Yeah,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: and you, you touch it and it just kind of lights up a bit, and it gives
Jason Warren: So,
Jason Key: a faint
Jason Warren: self-timed
Jason Key: glow. So if you have all the lights off in your living room, you'll,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: you'll temporarily see it. Because usually you're not fooling around for it for more than what ten seconds.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Okay, so
Jason Key: So
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: That's probably feasible. So, do you think that we should do the lighting up thing, and the glow-in-the-dark thing, and the shape of the numbers? Do we have to kind of decide what we're gonna do with this.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: I think the shape of the numbers is a really good idea.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Yeah, okay.
Jason Warren: And I think
Charlie Hunsaker: For
Jason Warren: that's
Charlie Hunsaker: visually
Jason Warren: un unique
Charlie Hunsaker: impaired,
Jason Warren: as well. I
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: mean, I haven't
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah.
Jason Warren: seen that.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: And as you're saying like numbers can wear off if they're just sort of like
Charles Archibald: Yeah,
Jason Warren: painted on,
Charles Archibald: yeah.
Jason Warren: you
Charles Archibald: And it
Jason Warren: know
Charles Archibald: could,
Jason Warren: printed.
Charles Archibald: if it's that softer rubber material it'll be, maybe, um, uh, better for people with um
Jason Warren: durable.
Charles Archibald: els no what's it called, R_S_I_, what was it that
Jason Warren: Oh
Charles Archibald: we were
Jason Warren: yeah.
Charles Archibald: talking about?
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: Oh right,
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: the
Jason Warren: Yeah. Repetitive
Charles Archibald: Yeah instead of
Jason Warren: strain
Charles Archibald: like hard
Jason Warren: injury.
Charles Archibald: buttons. Okay.
Jason Warren: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Um, did we want to go for the glow-in-the-dark look? Or
Charlie Hunsaker: If
Charles Archibald: did we want to go for the lighting up instantly? Like should we do both? Or we can have one or the other? Because it might, for, for our design purposes, I mean, the lighting up thing might be better because
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: glow-in-the-dark material has a funny kinda colour.
Jason Key: I
Charles Archibald: And
Jason Key: was
Charles Archibald: it might
Jason Key: gonna
Charles Archibald: not
Jason Key: say,
Charles Archibald: go with different like face plates that we might come up with.
Jason Key: Exactly.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: It the it might be perceived as tacky, glow-in-the-dark. It's kind
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Key: of like Eighties neon-style.
Jason Warren: Yeah,
Jason Key: Um, whereas
Jason Warren: and
Jason Key: we're
Jason Warren: we
Jason Key: trying
Jason Warren: could
Jason Key: to be trendy and fashionable.
Jason Warren: Yeah
Jason Key: So
Jason Warren: there are now like loads, or a huge range of different colours that it could light up in as well, which could like link in with the company colours. Like it could be blue or green or yellow,
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charles Archibald: Right.
Jason Warren: or like
Charles Archibald: Right.
Jason Warren: we've just limited t with the, just ordinary phosphorescent so
Charles Archibald: Alright. So we've decided on lighting up
Charlie Hunsaker: I was thinking
Charles Archibald: things.
Charlie Hunsaker: though, if it was glow-in-the-dark, you could put the um Real Reaction symbol as glow-in-the-dark, and then it would be constantly advertised.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Mm.
Jason Warren: Every time the, that it lit
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: up, you c that could light up as
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: well. Or,
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Warren: or
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Jason Warren: the, whate
Charles Archibald: But with the same thing, I
Jason Key: That's
Charles Archibald: mean.
Jason Key: true.
Charles Archibald: If you touch the button
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: and then it
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: could be,
Charlie Hunsaker: Okay.
Charles Archibald: it could be lit up as well. Is Are you okay with that?
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Okay. Cool. Um Alright. So I think that um
Jason Warren: Is
Charles Archibald: that completes most of our um our more uh practical decisions. And now it's up to designing. And um making sure that this can be feasible.
Jason Key: What um
Charles Archibald: And do you have anything
Jason Key: Oh
Charles Archibald: Do
Jason Key: sorry.
Charles Archibald: you have anything to say?
Jason Key: Yeah well, I was just gonna throw out there the thought about um personalising the remote control. Um, it, you, 'cause you mentioned face plates. So I I dunno if there's something that diff, you know like five different face plates. I dunno if this will start making it more complicated, but it could increase the popularity of the, of the remote.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charlie Hunsaker: Oh yeah.
Jason Warren: Like
Jason Key: Um
Jason Warren: you can have changeable
Charlie Hunsaker: Interchangeable thing?
Jason Warren: um
Jason Key: Yeah,
Jason Warren: mobile covers
Charles Archibald: Like an iPod
Jason Warren: or something.
Charlie Hunsaker: That would
Charles Archibald: or something?
Charlie Hunsaker: be good.
Jason Key: Exactly,
Jason Warren: Yeah,
Jason Key: like
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Key: an
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: iPod. Exactly.
Jason Warren: or Okay.
Jason Key: Or, or like mobile
Charles Archibald: Like a
Jason Key: ph.
Charles Archibald: cellphone? Yeah.
Jason Key: And I dunno if we'd want to go with like T_V_ show themes or something. Like a Bart Simpson faceplate.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah, and then that
Jason Key: But
Charlie Hunsaker: would be uh more profitable like as a sideline to the remote
Charles Archibald: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: as well.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Y
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Charlie Hunsaker: Could buy
Charles Archibald: Accessories.
Jason Key: Exactly.
Charlie Hunsaker: extra
Jason Key: You could start out with
Jason Warren: Person
Jason Key: three, and if, if we hit it big then we can add
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Jason Key: some on.
Jason Warren: Yeah. Well,
Charlie Hunsaker: That's
Jason Warren: that's
Charlie Hunsaker: a good idea.
Jason Warren: great.
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: I think that we should incorporate that.
Jason Warren: Interchangeable. Um,
Charles Archibald: 'Cause
Jason Warren: als
Charles Archibald: that wouldn't be very expensive at all. You'd
Charlie Hunsaker: No.
Charles Archibald: just get one mould,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Jason Key: Mm-hmm.
Jason Warren: Interchan
Charles Archibald: throw some plastic in it, you know.
Jason Warren: And also possible I mean, uh, we could gain out of that by advertising certain T_V_ shows, or
Charlie Hunsaker: Oh
Charles Archibald: Yeah.
Charlie Hunsaker: yeah.
Charles Archibald: Well, that might be com
Jason Key: Right.
Charles Archibald: problematic with um copyright issues.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: So,
Jason Warren: But if we, there
Charles Archibald: if
Charlie Hunsaker: If
Jason Warren: is
Charles Archibald: it
Charlie Hunsaker: w
Charles Archibald: takes off then we'll,
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: we'll,
Jason Warren: We could
Charles Archibald: we'll try that out.
Jason Warren: Um, the environmental factor, we didn't bring that up again.
Jason Key: Right.
Charles Archibald: Right. We'll have to do more research. Like as of yet, that has nothing to do with, um, the way it'll look.
Jason Warren: Yeah.
Charles Archibald: Um, does it need to be reached a de Do we need to reach a decision on that right now?
Jason Warren: Um,
Charles Archibald: Because
Jason Warren: I've
Charles Archibald: we need to investigate the financial implications.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Warren: Let's
Charles Archibald: Is it Does it need to be uh decided on now? Or
Jason Warren: I
Charles Archibald: should we
Jason Warren: think we could probably leave that 'til later on,
Charles Archibald: Okay.
Jason Warren: then.
Charles Archibald: Good. Alright then. Anyone else have anything more to say before we close?
Charlie Hunsaker: No.
Jason Warren: No.
Charles Archibald: Alright, well. Let's have lunch and we'll discuss this later.
Charlie Hunsaker: Okay.
Jason Warren: Okay.
Charles Archibald: Alright?
Jason Warren: Thank you. | Charles Archibald opens the meeting, asking Jason Warren to present first. Jason Warren begins talking about the functional aspect of the working design and features to make the product unique, such as visibility in the dark, locator alarm, and environmentally-friendly materials. To make an environmental impact, they could use smart materials that can be heated and cooled so that the individual components easily separate to be reused or recycled. The group asks some questions about this idea and then the interface designer presents about technical functions, explaining the difference between a multifunctional and single function remote. The group discusses the two types and decides that a single function design is more suitable for the budget. Jason Key presents on user requirements by using research done on remote control users. She summarizes these findings andexplains her personal preference for a user-friendly, unique design since certain features could be too complex. Charles Archibald receives some decision-affecting information from management, which she shares with the group. They have a discussion about the remote control functions and close the meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: So I see all everybody's here, 'kay.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yep.
Ronald Henderson: And we can start meeting.
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Michael Freeman: What's the agenda for this meeting?
Ronald Henderson: The I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides
Michael Freeman: Okay
Ronald Henderson: to you. Um as you can see here.
Gilberto Erickson: Perfect.
Ronald Henderson: So first uh just to mention I will take notes
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: uh of this meeting and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you. I've also made notes of the previous meeting and um I was about to send them you but then uh I had to go to this uh meeting so you will get them too uh
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: Next.
Ronald Henderson: Um.
Gilberto Erickson: So y you the also.
Ronald Henderson: Yes.
Gilberto Erickson: Right? Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Indeed. Um. Then I hope you all have uh worked out some
Gilberto Erickson: Perfectly
Ronald Henderson: some
Gilberto Erickson: yeah yeah
Ronald Henderson: uh
Gilberto Erickson: of course uh-huh.
Ronald Henderson: some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting. Um. W We will uh in a minute we will uh start with them. Um, we will see in which order we will handle them of. Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I got uh from the uh account manager, I try to work them out, they were quite abstract, and we
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: can have maybe have com some discussion about it. Uh Um about the functions and Well in this meeting we should really try to reach a decision about the target group
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: and the functionality of the
Gilberto Erickson: You mean the social target group
Ronald Henderson: Yes
Gilberto Erickson: who we
Ronald Henderson: I mean
Gilberto Erickson: wants
Ronald Henderson: well
Gilberto Erickson: to target?
Ronald Henderson: yes w who are we going to uh to
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: well
Gilberto Erickson: Oh the
Ronald Henderson: to sell
Gilberto Erickson: customers,
Ronald Henderson: this,
Gilberto Erickson: okay.
Ronald Henderson: the customers,
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: indeed yes. Think that's that's important
Michael Freeman: That's the big question
Ronald Henderson: matter.
Michael Freeman: yeah.
Ronald Henderson: Uh. So And then uh we will close this meeting uh and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch. Good. Um. Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations?
Michael Freeman: No, I don't.
Ronald Henderson: You don't have presentation?
Michael Freeman: I wasn't. No.
Ronald Henderson: Uh you want a table to to uh
Michael Freeman: I c I can talk about it but I have no
Ronald Henderson: Yes
Michael Freeman: slides
Ronald Henderson: yes
Michael Freeman: or anything.
Ronald Henderson: maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm. Well I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group so, a hundred people, just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control. Um. It's probably can't email this to you, I've just got a web page with some data on it. Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls. Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: Um. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Um. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot, so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television. Uh. Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons, so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: Um.
Ronald Henderson: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page
Michael Freeman: I have
Ronald Henderson: you
Michael Freeman: an
Ronald Henderson: said?
Michael Freeman: a web page yes.
Ronald Henderson: Yes, mayb maybe you can can send an email to Michael Freeman later uh.
Michael Freeman: Yep. Yep, sure.
Ronald Henderson: Uh about this.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm. So basically um there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control. Um, power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour. Um, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um and then there's things like channel settings, audio settings, which are only used very infrequently.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: Um. Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour, so it is used but not nearly as much as
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: the channel selection is used. Um. An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room,
Ronald Henderson: Yes
Michael Freeman: so
Ronald Henderson: yes,
Michael Freeman: some
Ronald Henderson: I
Michael Freeman: way of
Ronald Henderson: have that too.
Michael Freeman: some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users. Um. Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control, they want something that's easier to use straight away, more intuitive perhaps.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: Um.
Gilberto Erickson: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's
Michael Freeman: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to
Gilberto Erickson: Okay
Michael Freeman: use a
Gilberto Erickson: too
Michael Freeman: new
Gilberto Erickson: much
Michael Freeman: one.
Gilberto Erickson: time to learn.
Michael Freeman: Yep.
Gilberto Erickson: Okay.
Michael Freeman: Um.
Gilberto Erickson: Not enough
Michael Freeman: And thirty twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. I don't know how we'd go about combating that.
Robert Elliott: What do you mean there?
Michael Freeman: For R_S_I_? Respet Repetitive strain injury.
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: So. But
Ronald Henderson: They think that or do their doctor the doctor says?
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: users huh?
Michael Freeman: That's what the report
Ronald Henderson: So
Michael Freeman: says yeah.
Ronald Henderson: mm.
Michael Freeman: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown
Gilberto Erickson: Maybe
Michael Freeman: on
Gilberto Erickson: y y you cannot put this webpage online on the
Michael Freeman: Uh I should be able to actually, if I email it to you now.
Robert Elliott: You can disconnect it there no?
Ronald Henderson: You can maybe just just
Gilberto Erickson: Ah it's
Michael Freeman: Oh no, yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: it okay it's a webpage on the C_
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: it's a file okay. O
Michael Freeman: Um,
Gilberto Erickson: otherwise
Michael Freeman: s hang
Gilberto Erickson: you.
Michael Freeman: on.
Robert Elliott: Then you can connect this one
Gilberto Erickson: can
Robert Elliott: or
Gilberto Erickson: this
Robert Elliott: this
Gilberto Erickson: one.
Robert Elliott: one yeah. All to your computer.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Well.
Gilberto Erickson: So these are important numbers that Matthew and I need to take
Robert Elliott: Oh
Gilberto Erickson: into account for
Robert Elliott: yeah.
Michael Freeman: Oh
Gilberto Erickson: our
Michael Freeman: I need to muck around
Gilberto Erickson: functional
Michael Freeman: with this. It's probably
Gilberto Erickson: um
Michael Freeman: easier if you put it on yours and then I'll just email it to you.
Ronald Henderson: Hmm.
Michael Freeman: It's just
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah
Michael Freeman: a web link.
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account
Robert Elliott: Hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: for the uh both yeah user interface and
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: functional design.
Michael Freeman: One thing it goes on to talk about, which is interesting, is the hang on a minute.
Gilberto Erickson: Because if there are many numbers and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: is more important.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: Yep. Um, one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control.
Gilberto Erickson: Speech recognition in
Michael Freeman: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful.
Ronald Henderson: D do you have
Gilberto Erickson: Ah
Ronald Henderson: numbers
Gilberto Erickson: okay.
Ronald Henderson: o o on that?
Michael Freeman: Yes, I'll just get this up.
Gilberto Erickson: So that we don't Do we not need any button on
Michael Freeman: Well
Gilberto Erickson: the remote
Michael Freeman: potentially
Gilberto Erickson: control
Michael Freeman: yeah,
Gilberto Erickson: it would be
Michael Freeman: um
Gilberto Erickson: all based on speech. Okay.
Michael Freeman: I think even for
Gilberto Erickson: Interesting idea.
Michael Freeman: interesti yeah I think that would not work so well. You wanna have both options.
Gilberto Erickson: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Well it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost, I mean when it
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: has speech recognition then uh
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: i then it doesn't matter where it is, my well it's we should be in range,
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: or maybe it can respond and produce sound, so say where it is.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: But the these are all quite fancy features I'm not sure whether
Robert Elliott: Well it would
Ronald Henderson: we
Robert Elliott: be
Ronald Henderson: will
Robert Elliott: f
Ronald Henderson: we can make this for for twelve Euro fi
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: and fifty
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: cents.
Robert Elliott: No you can't.
Gilberto Erickson: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is, maybe you know?
Robert Elliott: Oh. Well, it depends you know like there is uh a very small vocabulary you want to do the operations like you want say on, off,
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Robert Elliott: one,
Gilberto Erickson: But it's quite noisy if there
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: is the
Robert Elliott: twenty
Gilberto Erickson: T_V_
Robert Elliott: three, yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: uh
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: It's it's
Ronald Henderson: Yes,
Robert Elliott: going
Gilberto Erickson: shouting.
Robert Elliott: to be
Ronald Henderson: that
Robert Elliott: li
Ronald Henderson: that
Robert Elliott: it's
Ronald Henderson: that
Robert Elliott: not going to be
Ronald Henderson: that's
Robert Elliott: s
Ronald Henderson: mm.
Robert Elliott: so easy but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated
Ronald Henderson: Do you have some more
Robert Elliott: case
Ronald Henderson: important
Robert Elliott: but it's
Ronald Henderson: facts
Gilberto Erickson: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: or
Michael Freeman: Um
Robert Elliott: but I don't
Ronald Henderson: can we
Robert Elliott: know
Ronald Henderson: go
Robert Elliott: with twenty
Gilberto Erickson: So
Ronald Henderson: to
Robert Elliott: fi
Ronald Henderson: the next
Gilberto Erickson: you had
Michael Freeman: Well
Ronald Henderson: presentation?
Gilberto Erickson: to to to summarise maybe the
Michael Freeman: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control, who would pay more for it, um. Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more, it goes down from there, seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five, thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five, um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five and then
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: eight percent
Robert Elliott: Okay
Michael Freeman: for fifty
Robert Elliott: it's
Michael Freeman: five to
Robert Elliott: uh
Michael Freeman: sixty five.
Robert Elliott: decline. Okay.
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: But
Ronald Henderson: Decline
Michael Freeman: we sh
Ronald Henderson: with age,
Michael Freeman: Yeah,
Ronald Henderson: mm.
Michael Freeman: it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product,
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: um, which we'll be talking about later I think.
Ronald Henderson: Yes. We will talk about it later.
Michael Freeman: Did
Ronald Henderson: Okay.
Michael Freeman: you get the email? Yep,
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: that one. Just follow that link.
Gilberto Erickson: I thi You us
Michael Freeman: It'll be in a different
Gilberto Erickson: yeah
Michael Freeman: window,
Gilberto Erickson: yeah.
Michael Freeman: yep. That's left that one. Yep.
Gilberto Erickson: Okay perfect. ...
Michael Freeman: Mm. So that's the figure that I was just talking about there, with the different
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Michael Freeman: demographics. Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen but there's no figures apparently on that.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: Mm 'kay.
Ronald Henderson: Okay. um Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: your presentation uh?
Gilberto Erickson: Mm I okay I stay
Ronald Henderson: Oh, this is
Robert Elliott: Now you can move I think yeah.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm, y y you can move, uh.
Gilberto Erickson: I can move as far as Maybe I take your chair? I
Ronald Henderson: Yes.
Gilberto Erickson: okay.
Ronald Henderson: You can you can sa take my chair.
Robert Elliott: It's a channel selection, a module, this and this
Michael Freeman: Sorry?
Robert Elliott: function, go to the.
Michael Freeman: Oh.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: So I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer. And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control. Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction, how does it work, so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: uh what is it because I think in the product it is important. So basically um the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: And so an energy source feeds an integrated circuit, the chip, that can compose messages, usually uh through a um infrared bit
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages, alright. So my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first the the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product. I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: So for that yeah as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: and um w to to we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control and I show you the the working design. So um basically uh here is a really large view of what we want. Uh we want an on off button, it can be uh it's simple but it's it's important,
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: and also uh the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after, right. So the components I quickly draw here, is that in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver so that's my method is um will be to well my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control right.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: So of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver. This is very quick uh design, uh you stop Michael Freeman or interrupt Michael Freeman if uh you don't agree on it on that.
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: And um so what I have found and after a lot of work actually I I draw
Michael Freeman: Well.
Gilberto Erickson: this I draw for you this uh schema
Ronald Henderson: Uh-huh.
Gilberto Erickson: that can be maybe too technical for you but is very important for Michael Freeman you know.
Michael Freeman: You drew it a long time ago?
Ronald Henderson: Is huh
Gilberto Erickson: And
Michael Freeman: Ninety one.
Ronald Henderson: overwhelming.
Gilberto Erickson: uh that's it so I won't go into details about that but
Ronald Henderson: No.
Gilberto Erickson: uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components.
Ronald Henderson: And and why do
Gilberto Erickson: So.
Ronald Henderson: you want these kind of component? I mean, are they cheap, or are they uh reliable? What were your
Gilberto Erickson: So components you see here are the cheapest I have found and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: if it's expensive, but uh this one was not this one also really uh reliable um so yeah that's it for the working design, uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical
Ronald Henderson: Yes.
Gilberto Erickson: components but maybe yeah
Ronald Henderson: It it it's more clear now I think. So
Robert Elliott: But is it uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in or you want to ma
Gilberto Erickson: No no no no we we will uh This is a preference but we can always change
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: uh
Ronald Henderson: What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver, I mean can you can
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: you get back to it? Yeah uh, the receiver is of course already in the television and we are not uh able to change it.
Gilberto Erickson: Of
Ronald Henderson: So
Gilberto Erickson: course yeah.
Ronald Henderson: we we must adapt to the to the receiver. I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah. We will use uh infrared protocol uh using yeah infrared and uh and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: exists and but we what we can do is uh uh adapting the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: and
Ronald Henderson: Mm. Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: uh
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: infrared bubbles.
Ronald Henderson: Yes. Okay.
Gilberto Erickson: Um. Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Thank you.
Robert Elliott: Well it to du it's just you had to change the frequencies.
Gilberto Erickson: The frequencies? Yeah
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: yeah. Of course yeah in the chip you have it yeah.
Robert Elliott: But you should be careful, people are sometime becoming problem, like a guy has recently designed a remote uh
Gilberto Erickson: That can control
Robert Elliott: uh uh
Gilberto Erickson: o
Robert Elliott: which
Gilberto Erickson: other
Robert Elliott: could
Gilberto Erickson: things.
Robert Elliott: switch off any other T_V_s,
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: so basically through
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: Ah.
Robert Elliott: all the things. So maybe we should think of
Gilberto Erickson: Of course yeah we should take that
Ronald Henderson: Yeah
Gilberto Erickson: into
Michael Freeman: That's
Gilberto Erickson: account
Michael Freeman: handy.
Ronald Henderson: yes
Robert Elliott: yeah.
Ronald Henderson: I I
Michael Freeman: So if the
Ronald Henderson: I
Michael Freeman: b T_V_ in the next apartment's
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Michael Freeman: really loud,
Robert Elliott: so
Michael Freeman: you
Robert Elliott: you can
Michael Freeman: can
Robert Elliott: just
Michael Freeman: just turn
Robert Elliott: go on
Michael Freeman: it off.
Robert Elliott: the street and then switch off everyone's T_V_ and you can just walk away You don't have to be near the
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: T_V_ at all.
Ronald Henderson: I
Michael Freeman: I like
Ronald Henderson: I
Michael Freeman: that
Ronald Henderson: feel
Michael Freeman: idea.
Ronald Henderson: I I I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things. Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Ronald Henderson: uh
Robert Elliott: so.
Ronald Henderson: Matthew. I I I assume you were finished here.
Gilberto Erickson: Yes.
Ronald Henderson: Uh okay.
Robert Elliott: Okay. So I can take I think mine now
Gilberto Erickson: Okay.
Robert Elliott: there. Okay so voila. Hmm I can take mine it's okay, voila, mm so mm. Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Oh. I Uh, sorry? I know where it is.
Robert Elliott: It's on the desktop.
Ronald Henderson: It's uh
Robert Elliott: Technical function.
Ronald Henderson: Yes.
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: It's uh
Robert Elliott: Like so. Well. So um I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do, I think my last
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: presented what is going inside,
Michael Freeman: Yep.
Robert Elliott: so what's the user is going to see from the outside and how he is going to use it. So well the approach is that uh basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set, as Mael has pointed, and it will be decoded by the T_V_ and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons with which people can uh press and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: and uh um a and basically it sends an internal signal and decoded by the receiver. So p as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys, people are can have a speech recognition but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later. But
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: in the present scenario is that you have certain keys and you press it like your mobile phone, and it sends a message to the T_V_.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yep.
Robert Elliott: And um so generally mm I don't have some figures sorry but um so there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household, actually so you have a standard T_V_ remote where you have just a on, off button and play, uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option. And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine, but tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows, but uh uh. Then there is uh this is the standard one with without any fancy thing you know like i it doesn't have teletext option, it can without any, it's a very simple thing, um which which you can vouch. And then you have uh what's the v video remote file which is like usually it has almost all the keys over there and, but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: something like that so i it has those so these are the standard uh commonly found remote controls in the uh market. And then whi which is generally used by the people. And then well personal preferences I would uh basically think of having a kind of aim for the next generation thing where the we could have both the uh the f a T_V_ and the remote video remote control because uh some of the keys in the video's remote control and the T_V_ they could be integrated together so that uh we could um aim for the like in the f coming future um that type of uh applications
Michael Freeman: Okay.
Robert Elliott: with
Michael Freeman: How would that work? So you've got say maybe a V_C_R_ and a T_V_ which are separate, so you at home I've got a V_C_R_ remote which then changes the channel on the V_C_R_
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: and doesn't do anything on the T_V_,
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: so is it gonna be like a switch on the remote that says t use the T_V_ or use the V_C_R_? or does it know which one you want to use?
Robert Elliott: Um actually um you could you could think of um having s a y you can have a key which could tell y it could go to the video
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: thing but um uh yo you you you still can't um in that case when it you use that the function should be able to take up the
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: V_C_R_ option and you could play it or You can also think about having like um in in few ye coming years you might even have a system where you have a separate uh sitting setup box and
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: uh you have uh um something like uh uh you do you do you suppose you are not able to watch some programme and
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: actually it downloading all the time for you
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: and uh you can just you know uh when you come back you could just switch on that thing and uh watch
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: a program. In that case you want to browse faster, browse slow, you
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: want to have
Ronald Henderson: Mm
Robert Elliott: those
Ronald Henderson: mm
Robert Elliott: kind of functionalities.
Ronald Henderson: mm mm mm.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: These are kind of next generation
Robert Elliott: It's the next generation thing,
Gilberto Erickson: functionalities.
Robert Elliott: but it
Ronald Henderson: Mm
Robert Elliott: is going to come
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: in couple
Ronald Henderson: yes,
Robert Elliott: of years.
Ronald Henderson: but
Robert Elliott: It's
Ronald Henderson: I
Robert Elliott: goi
Ronald Henderson: think it's i i it's already there, I mean the
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Ronald Henderson: hard
Robert Elliott: it's
Ronald Henderson: disk uh recorders
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: uh I I've seen them in the shop.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: Mm 'kay.
Robert Elliott: So it's going to record your things and you and
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: you you need basically the functionalities what you need in
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: both uh uh video
Michael Freeman: That's fair enough.
Robert Elliott: as well as in the standard
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: T_V_ thing.
Michael Freeman: But I don't think we're trying to make a universal remote here.
Robert Elliott: No no we are
Michael Freeman: That's,
Robert Elliott: not making
Michael Freeman: yeah.
Robert Elliott: a universal remote, we are just looking at uh giving a scenario, I have a T_V_ and tomorrow I am going to have set up box
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: which is going to sit there and
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: uh it's going to do
Michael Freeman: Because
Robert Elliott: that job
Michael Freeman: y
Ronald Henderson: W
Robert Elliott: for
Ronald Henderson: w
Robert Elliott: Michael Freeman.
Ronald Henderson: w w we need to decide on on on on in how far we go to in this.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: Mean,
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: you can go pretty far I f I think with with with functions and
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: possible uh future p uh
Michael Freeman: Yep.
Ronald Henderson: prospects yes.
Robert Elliott: Yeah. So
Ronald Henderson: But it's good to keep in mind.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: Okay so that p ends my presentation.
Ronald Henderson: Mm. Very
Robert Elliott: Well.
Ronald Henderson: well.
Robert Elliott: So we can always discuss about it for example uh the presently the video market actually uh this demand, video over-demand or what we call it as,
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: it's
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: presently booming up actually
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: so it i like people are providing like uh things like uh uh movies, you can select actually so you want to watch a movie and uh your p your provider gives a list of movies, and then you select those list.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: And it basically you go off, it downloads the movie, it gives for you
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: and then when you come you want to loo watch it on your T_V_. And
Ronald Henderson: Good.
Robert Elliott: thi this is going to come.
Gilberto Erickson: Or even you don't need to download it, it's streamed uh online uh
Robert Elliott: Yeah it can
Gilberto Erickson: yeah.
Robert Elliott: be streamed
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: online for you and you can say what time I want to watch the movie
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: and Yeah so.
Ronald Henderson: Um,
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: so u um have uh received some some some some well points of of thinking over of my account manager and uh I would like to share them with you.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: Um
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: first thing is uh teletext is a well known feature of televisions but it's
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: it's getting used less and less.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: That's that's especially because of the internet of course.
Michael Freeman: Hmm.
Ronald Henderson: So we should think about it um. Do we include it, and do we give it a prominent uh prominent uh place on on on the on well huh on the remote
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: mot control itself. Uh as uh a in any case it's it's not used, well very much, but it's it is still used.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: Um.
Ronald Henderson: Um further yes we must think, uh do we stay uh to to television only, the television as we as we all know it with with broadcasting signals and you can't go back uh huh, or do we uh uh go further as Matthew indicated by supporting uh uh recording uh devices? Uh
Michael Freeman: So D_V_D_s and V_C_R_s?
Ronald Henderson: indeed indeed.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: And and and the hard disk recorders. Um, furthermore, uh, w we need really need to interest uh y younger customers and then with younger customers I mean people uh below the age of forty,
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: and our our current customers are mainly forty plus uh
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: which well
Gilberto Erickson: Fourteen
Ronald Henderson: Forty.
Gilberto Erickson: or for O okay. So
Ronald Henderson: So that's to that's I mean there's a market but uh they will grow older older and you'll al always need to have the the future with younger people.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: Um therefore, younger people like trendy trendy designs, so that's w we should make our our our R_C_ as trendy as possible but it should also be uh have a reliable image, so when it looks too too spacey or too fancy people will think well does it work at all. Hmm.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: Yeah it's uh well you you can follow the ideas how you want to keep the keys, you know right now if you take it you have like zero, one, two, three like a keys separately,
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: but suppose if you take the the present trend of mobile phones
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: there are like big thick keys you press on the top, it takes one number, you press on the bottom it takes another number, and uh basically uh uh so the space covered so that you don't see two separate keys there actually
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: so it it is
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: like uh um i i it is like uh
Ronald Henderson: Ma Maybe Maybe you can draw it on the
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: on the board
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Ronald Henderson: uh
Robert Elliott: so.
Michael Freeman: But I think taking the idea of getting inspiration from mobile phones is interesting,
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: especially if we're
Ronald Henderson: Hmm.
Michael Freeman: going after a younger market,
Ronald Henderson: Yes yes
Gilberto Erickson: Because
Ronald Henderson: mo
Michael Freeman: that's
Gilberto Erickson: they are
Michael Freeman: the
Gilberto Erickson: already
Michael Freeman: the the
Gilberto Erickson: used to that,
Michael Freeman: mm
Gilberto Erickson: you know,
Michael Freeman: the new
Gilberto Erickson: product.
Michael Freeman: and the funky things,
Ronald Henderson: Yes
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: that's,
Ronald Henderson: it's recognisable
Michael Freeman: yeah, there's lot there's lots of pretty mobile phones, not too many
Ronald Henderson: Mm mm.
Michael Freeman: pretty remote controls. That's
Ronald Henderson: And and they are skilled uh by using it.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: So for example uh Well
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm. ...
Robert Elliott: uh Okay, it works. Fine. So, for example you
Ronald Henderson: Mael
Robert Elliott: have uh
Ronald Henderson: can
Gilberto Erickson: Yes.
Ronald Henderson: you
Robert Elliott: presently
Ronald Henderson: hand Michael Freeman over this
Robert Elliott: uh keys
Ronald Henderson: uh?
Robert Elliott: like one, two,
Ronald Henderson: Uh thank you.
Robert Elliott: three like this,
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: actually, and uh uh four five six like that and uh you can have keys like this in form like uh
Michael Freeman: Okay.
Robert Elliott: keys like that
Michael Freeman: How much longer have we got for the meeting by the way?
Ronald Henderson: Mm well I think
Michael Freeman: 'Cause
Robert Elliott: Forty
Michael Freeman: we haven't
Robert Elliott: minutes?
Michael Freeman: talked about demographic at all and it's
Ronald Henderson: fi
Michael Freeman: a very
Ronald Henderson: five
Michael Freeman: important
Ronald Henderson: min
Michael Freeman: issue.
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: so you you you can have uh keys like uh which are which are like so. too sorry, so we basically don't change the uh original order of them but then the keys are more spacious,
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: they don't look uh so there there is a very sligh thing, so if you press on the top it
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: takes the one, it takes the three, uh four, sorry four here uh five and six,
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: so the keys can be it looks you know not very much cluttered
Gilberto Erickson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Elliott: but it looks nice for you
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: don't have too many keys but you can have a lot
Ronald Henderson: Okay.
Robert Elliott: of options t if you
Ronald Henderson: 'Kay
Robert Elliott: press
Ronald Henderson: I
Robert Elliott: on
Ronald Henderson: I
Robert Elliott: the to
Ronald Henderson: think now that the idea's
Gilberto Erickson: Yep.
Ronald Henderson: clear.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: Uh we should now uh try to decide um on our target group.
Michael Freeman: Yeah. Which I think is quite tricky.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Um, basically we're trying to get people to buy a remote control wouldn't they already have a remote control with their television when they buy one?
Ronald Henderson: Of course they have already one. So our our our remote control has to be better.
Michael Freeman: But
Robert Elliott: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: it's not going to have more functionality, 'cause it's only a low market, it's a cheap-end remote control, we can't beat modern functionality, we might we'll be able to beat them on th the look of it, th the design of it but that's not a big seller, if they're not just going to buy a new remote control just 'cause it looks pretty,
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: they have to actually need it as well. So I'm not sure how we can get people to buy this thing.
Ronald Henderson: Mm. I well I think many people said uh in your in in your research uh
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: uh uh the appearance of the uh R_C_ is is important when they are buying one
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: but
Michael Freeman: But why are they buying one in the first place?
Ronald Henderson: Indeed. So that will be about functionality
Michael Freeman: Mm. But if people are buying a new remote control for functionality they'll buy a universal remote. I've got friends who've got so many things they need a universal remote, otherwise they're using five different remotes
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: for their all their
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Freeman: things.
Ronald Henderson: Mm.
Michael Freeman: In that case they wouldn't buy our product, because it doesn't give them what they need in terms of functionality.
Ronald Henderson: So your you think we should go for a more u universal high-performance
Michael Freeman: Well, we can't, with the price range. We We're not building a universal remote,
Ronald Henderson: What
Michael Freeman: we're
Ronald Henderson: do
Michael Freeman: not building a high end product.
Ronald Henderson: What do you think about
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah
Ronald Henderson: What
Gilberto Erickson: we
Ronald Henderson: componen
Gilberto Erickson: have yeah twelve point five Euros
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: uh per uh per R_ s R_C_ and I think uh with this now you know that chips are very uh cheaps
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: and uh we can include it in our control some new new features.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah. And
Michael Freeman: But
Gilberto Erickson: um
Michael Freeman: yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: But yeah
Michael Freeman: If
Gilberto Erickson: that's
Michael Freeman: we're getting into universal remote territory, we're getting to L_C_D_ screens and things like that which would drive the cost up a lot.
Ronald Henderson: I
Gilberto Erickson: Ye
Ronald Henderson: don't know. I don't know whether that's necessary. Is the L_C_D_
Gilberto Erickson: I don't
Michael Freeman: For
Gilberto Erickson: think
Ronald Henderson: screen
Michael Freeman: universal
Gilberto Erickson: L_C_D_
Michael Freeman: remotes
Gilberto Erickson: is not necessary well,
Michael Freeman: If you mm.
Ronald Henderson: I think
Gilberto Erickson: th
Ronald Henderson: thi
Gilberto Erickson: for long
Ronald Henderson: this
Gilberto Erickson: term.
Ronald Henderson: could be this could be a market because uh universal remote controls uh tend to be uh quite expensive.
Michael Freeman: And quite complicated
Ronald Henderson: S
Michael Freeman: to use, yes.
Ronald Henderson: so we can try to go in between, and offer a product which is not as expensive and not as
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: complicated
Michael Freeman: Not as flexible maybe,
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: yeah, but s
Ronald Henderson: but but
Michael Freeman: yeah.
Ronald Henderson: still but still people have the idea this is more functional than a normal uh uh
Gilberto Erickson: Universal.
Ronald Henderson: R_C_ because
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: it has more uh it it is in some kind universal.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm. But if we're going for the say fifteen to twenty five age group then not many of them would actually own T_V_s to use a remote control on.
Ronald Henderson: Mm yes but w we're targeting I think on more on the on the twenty to forty group.
Michael Freeman: Okay. So they're
Ronald Henderson: People
Michael Freeman: yeah.
Ronald Henderson: yes. Who just have or already have a job and have the money
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: but may not want to spend that much money on a
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: on a universal
Michael Freeman: Yep.
Ronald Henderson: universal control.
Michael Freeman: I don't know really what the the price range for remote controls is. Are we gonna be at the very bottom of the price range, or are we kind of middle to bottom? I don't know.
Ronald Henderson: Uh
Gilberto Erickson: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: well I think uh when we think it over I thi I think
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: we are trying to offer the a kind of universal control for for less money.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: So d
Robert Elliott: Well
Ronald Henderson: Do you agree?
Robert Elliott: Well I it's fine with Michael Freeman like the price as long as it is uh not too expensive.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah because
Robert Elliott: Uh and
Gilberto Erickson: we have
Robert Elliott: it d
Gilberto Erickson: to
Robert Elliott: uh
Gilberto Erickson: take into account that
Robert Elliott: Our
Gilberto Erickson: we are gonna
Robert Elliott: provin
Gilberto Erickson: b we are gonna sell uh four aro around four million so when we speak about these numbers uh the price of a chip is uh price of a chip is very cheap.
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: Mm.
Gilberto Erickson: So I'm okay for designing um a ne uh less yeah a a kind of universal uh R_C_
Ronald Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Gilberto Erickson: yeah.
Ronald Henderson: You think it's possible for the twelve Euro fifty?
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: Okay. Um so then we we decide on on on going to this more universal kind of control.
Robert Elliott: Uh yeah, that's that's what we needed basically.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: Mm. Mm. Okay.
Robert Elliott: Uh that's needed right now. And
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah that's
Robert Elliott: uh basically
Gilberto Erickson: needed, yeah.
Robert Elliott: you can look
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Robert Elliott: to the standards
Gilberto Erickson: And if
Robert Elliott: of
Gilberto Erickson: we
Robert Elliott: other
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: want to get the market, we really
Michael Freeman: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: need that.
Michael Freeman: So I
Robert Elliott: Actu
Michael Freeman: guess what I'd like from a universal remote is maybe choosing between three devices, being
Gilberto Erickson: Yes.
Michael Freeman: able to switch between them, there may be stereo, V_C_R_ and T_V_.
Robert Elliott: Yeah.
Gilberto Erickson: Exactly.
Michael Freeman: And just be
Ronald Henderson: Yes.
Michael Freeman: able to s use them all from the same remote, but not at the same
Robert Elliott: Yeah
Michael Freeman: time.
Robert Elliott: you can
Gilberto Erickson: Is that
Robert Elliott: also
Gilberto Erickson: okay for
Robert Elliott: browse
Gilberto Erickson: you? Yeah.
Robert Elliott: through all the standards
Ronald Henderson: Mm mm
Robert Elliott: you know,
Ronald Henderson: mm mm.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Robert Elliott: where are the limit of standards for all of them and you can just browse through them.
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: So given we are going for this uh uh universal type uh m maybe it is good when you try to find out which components you therefore need and
Gilberto Erickson: Yes.
Ronald Henderson: y you will
Michael Freeman: Mm.
Ronald Henderson: try to get more specific uh user interface
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: content
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: and uh maybe you can look on on what trends are in
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm
Ronald Henderson: this uh
Michael Freeman: yep.
Ronald Henderson: in this type of market.
Robert Elliott: Voila. Hmm.
Ronald Henderson: So
Robert Elliott: So.
Ronald Henderson: anyone uh has
Robert Elliott: Well.
Ronald Henderson: a point to bring in or shall
Robert Elliott: Oh
Ronald Henderson: we
Robert Elliott: I don't
Ronald Henderson: no.
Robert Elliott: have anything right now. We can
Gilberto Erickson: Oh that's that's
Ronald Henderson: Okay.
Gilberto Erickson: fine
Robert Elliott: we'll
Gilberto Erickson: then.
Robert Elliott: we'll go and we'll I'm sure we'll up something
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: W
Robert Elliott: good for
Ronald Henderson: yes,
Robert Elliott: the
Gilberto Erickson: Yeah.
Ronald Henderson: we uh we can have lunch now.
Michael Freeman: Mm-hmm.
Ronald Henderson: So um
Robert Elliott: Yeah so we
Ronald Henderson: Then
Robert Elliott: meet in
Ronald Henderson: th
Robert Elliott: well what
Ronald Henderson: th
Robert Elliott: are our
Ronald Henderson: the next meeting will uh after lunch you have uh we have uh thirty minutes of work and then we have the next meeting. But you will be informed via the computer.
Robert Elliott: Okay.
Ronald Henderson: Okay.
Robert Elliott: Cool.
Gilberto Erickson: Okay
Robert Elliott: So
Gilberto Erickson: perfect.
Robert Elliott: see you later. | Ronald Henderson opens the meeting and presents the agenda using slides. Michael Freeman explains the research she read about, which is a study done on 100 people asking their remote usage habits and preferences. Gilberto Erickson presents, explaining the basic function of a remote control and how it works. He says they should first agree on the technical functions before he creates working design and chooses the chips and infrared components to build it. The Interface Designer gives his presentation, talking about the remote's technical function of sending a message to the TV set that is decoded by the TV. Standard TV remotes have an on/off button, play, volume change, number keypad, and a 1 or 2 digit option. He suggests that in aiming for the next generation they should have a remote for the TV and video integrated together. Ronald Henderson recieves a message from account manager, which he shares with the group. They discuss and determine the target group as well as the possibility of making a universal remote for stereo, VCR, and TV. They close the meeting with Ronald Henderson telling each group member what they will do before the next meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Jake Tatro: Right first time this time. Nu There we go. It's not that complicated, but I get it wrong every time.
Robert Fetters: Okay so we are just waiting for
Jake Tatro: For
Robert Fetters: Matthew.
Jake Tatro: Matthew, yep.
Edward Conner: Mm.
Edward Conner: Uh
Edward Conner: So I suggest we start the uh without
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: Matthew uh
Robert Fetters: Mm 'kay.
Edward Conner: he's uh obviously late for some reason. Good. Um. Today uh we will uh talk about uh conceptual design. I hope uh you both did some uh some
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: work uh concerning a uh conceptual design. Um this will be the uh agenda for the meeting uh. Uh I will take some minutes uh again.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: Um we will have the presentations of y of you different
Jake Tatro: Yep.
Edward Conner: team members,
Robert Fetters: Yep.
Edward Conner: and then to come decisions concepts uh have. So and
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: that uh will uh we have some uh forty minutes uh to complete this
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: uh. So um who has the fir do you ha Anna
Jake Tatro: I have
Edward Conner: do you
Jake Tatro: a
Edward Conner: have
Jake Tatro: presentation,
Edward Conner: your presentation
Jake Tatro: I'm just
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: ready?
Jake Tatro: making
Robert Fetters: I
Jake Tatro: this
Robert Fetters: think yeah
Edward Conner: Okay.
Robert Fetters: the Matthew it is it's important that Matthew yeah is here because
Edward Conner: Ah there is Matthew.
Robert Fetters: it's really a a team uh project with a team and if someone is not
Ezequiel Wilson: Sorry.
Robert Fetters: here then we cannot but it's okay it's good.
Jake Tatro: Okay I'll just email you this file, my presentation.
Edward Conner: So. Good. Do presentation ready?
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm I'm just emailing it to you.
Edward Conner: Oh okay.
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Edward Conner: So did you manage uh
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah I sent you the slides you didn't see them?
Edward Conner: Oh yes I see him,
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay.
Edward Conner: good yes. No.
Ezequiel Wilson: So 'Kay.
Jake Tatro: Okay it should've gone through to you.
Edward Conner: Okay mm yes I have it.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm. Okay so this just a presentation on uh the trends that we're gonna use to make the product stand out from the rest of the products out there at the moment. Um can I just put this on? So we have to work out a way what we can do with our product to make it stand out and make it so people wanna buy it. Um. This is to do this I will not remove my microphone. We basically used um some focus group surveys which I went through with you last time, the main results of that, and um some research on the current design um and fashion trends that are out there at the moment um, and as part of this The important aspects that came out were things that we've already discussed really. The most important by far was the look and feel of it. It needs to be something that's very different from everything else out there. It needs to stand out. It needs to be not functional like the rest of the things out there at the moment. Most people find remote controls boring at the moment, we need to have something that looks interesting, that looks exciting, that will stand out. People will wanna buy it. Um That was twice as i important as the next item on here which is that it has to be technologically innovative has to have something else, apart from just the look of it. People have to then think about it and say got something there that I want. That's a really cool feature, and it has to make them wanna buy it again. Third on the list, and again innovative was twice as important as this last um aspect, it has to be easy to use. So they have to be able to be able to look at it and have some intuitive idea of how to use it um. Drawing on the fashion trends at the moment, uh fruit and vegetables um. This is basically talking about just the the feel of it, so probably not the smell of it, but the bright colours, um
Edward Conner: Mm.
Jake Tatro: eye-catching, really bold designs,
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: Mm.
Jake Tatro: and a spongy feel. Um I had a talk to the design people about this, but having a remote that's tactile, that feels different, that would be really cool. That would make it stand out.
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Jake Tatro: Um.
Robert Fetters: So can you repeat and be more precise about what you just said?
Edward Conner: Spongy
Robert Fetters: Uh
Edward Conner: feel?
Robert Fetters: about the feeling yeah uh
Jake Tatro: Well
Robert Fetters: yo
Jake Tatro: ma
Ezequiel Wilson: You
Jake Tatro: make
Ezequiel Wilson: can
Jake Tatro: it not necessar sp spongy is the current thing. Spongy is the current texture, but basically there are no reports no remotes at the moment which are spongy or tactile at all, so if we make it like maybe furry or
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Jake Tatro: soft or something, that'll be something that sets it apart,
Edward Conner: Mm.
Jake Tatro: rather than just bare plastic which they all are at the moment.
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: Okay.
Jake Tatro: So as far as the design goes, the very most important aspect was the design, to the customers. So going with the fruit and vegetable idea, we've got the bright colours, so makes it stand out, the oranges and the the bright yellows and the florescent colours, part of the fruit and vegetables um. Going back to the idea of taking inspiration from mobile phones, they've all got those a lot of them have the changeable covers, so they can choose what colour the outside is. That's one way of looking at it um. Textured feel we just talked about. Maybe it's
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Jake Tatro: another way of doing that. So if it's part of the the changeable covers then may maybe they can choose a different texture, a spongy one or a soft one or something like that. So they can choose it li as they want to
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Jake Tatro: to maybe
Robert Fetters: that's a very good yeah.
Jake Tatro: to fit in with their decor in their living room, or just what they like,
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: their sports team or whatever. Um and yeah, still taking the inspiration from the mobile phone design so functionality, the way the mobile phones work, the way the keypad looks. Also just the way that a lot of industrial design is going into mobile phones at the moment. They're big selling items. People put a lot of thought into that so we can leverage off that, and we can start using some of their ideas. Um back to technological in in innovation, not quite as important, but still a big issue. Um we talked about having a way of finding a remote control if it's been lost, uh that's one thing we could look at. There are other aspects like L_C_D_ screens and speech recognition which weren't I don't think, in my personal opinion, gonna be worth the extra expense and the extra effort that will go into them.
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Jake Tatro: I think we're better doing something basic like this which is very important and very will be a really cool feature to put in. And use. I had no real specific ideas for this, having your core functions big and at the top
Edward Conner: Mm.
Jake Tatro: maybe, by themselves,
Edward Conner: Yes well maybe
Jake Tatro: and
Edward Conner: Matthew
Jake Tatro: then
Edward Conner: can can
Jake Tatro: yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: give
Jake Tatro: and
Edward Conner: some
Jake Tatro: then
Edward Conner: more
Jake Tatro: th
Edward Conner: information
Jake Tatro: th the
Edward Conner: on
Jake Tatro: finer
Edward Conner: the
Jake Tatro: details of buttons you don't use as much either hidden away or completely separate.
Edward Conner: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Voila.
Jake Tatro: Yep and that's the presentation.
Edward Conner: Okay good, that's very clear.
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: very clear.
Edward Conner: 'Kay. Um.
Jake Tatro: So does anyone have any comments
Edward Conner: Uh
Jake Tatro: or ideas on that? I think you
Edward Conner: Maybe we yes well we maybe can decide later on um the l the the look and feel of uh I've it was a good idea maybe to to
Robert Fetters: To let the people choose,
Edward Conner: Yes
Robert Fetters: you mean?
Edward Conner: the the
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: the there are changeable covers, but on the other hand I I don't know whether my superiors would be so glad with it because you have to introduce a complete uh uh new l line of uh of supplies uh
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: it would be uh very complicated uh organisational
Jake Tatro: Well we're selling so many units of this. This is gonna be a mass marketed product,
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Jake Tatro: we can afford to have two
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Jake Tatro: or three different designs
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Jake Tatro: at least.
Robert Fetters: a range of uh yeah,
Edward Conner: Yes.
Robert Fetters: a set
Jake Tatro: Mm
Robert Fetters: of three, four different
Jake Tatro: mm.
Robert Fetters: aspects.
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: Sure
Edward Conner: Yes
Robert Fetters: that fits the
Edward Conner: and of course it will be a we we get a if it works we can get uh after-sales
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: I mean that would would be very good I mean
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: those covers could go for for three, five Euro.
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: That's a very good idea um And then uh maybe uh we can go a th Matthew's presentation because
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah s
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: the
Ezequiel Wilson: then we could discuss later like we can put all ideas together.
Edward Conner: Together indeed
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: uh,
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: because
Ezequiel Wilson: It should
Edward Conner: you
Robert Fetters: yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: be
Edward Conner: ma
Ezequiel Wilson: easier
Edward Conner: might
Robert Fetters: I
Edward Conner: have
Ezequiel Wilson: with
Robert Fetters: agree.
Edward Conner: some
Ezequiel Wilson: that.
Edward Conner: some information on the the easy to use, what
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm,
Edward Conner: you were
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: yeah.
Edward Conner: already mentioning.
Robert Fetters: And
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Robert Fetters: your part is very related to mine because
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: when you suggest something then it
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Robert Fetters: has to
Ezequiel Wilson: so
Robert Fetters: be integrated inside.
Ezequiel Wilson: I'll I'll go with that actually
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: so um
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay so m so then the the idea of uh having remote is generally you have uh keys and uh different, different forms, and uh they could be like buttons or like and um they could be of uh a varying sizes if you want to to uh basically emphasize a particular key more than the other, and uh maybe like you can have different colours for example having the r red for the on off switching on and off the button. So this this is the general trend to
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: ha
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: the method they do. So what I have found was that uh currently uh the they are mostly that the T_V_, V_C_R_, music system operated ones actually, and they are very specific to each other, but there are some common keys for example if you want to follow the V_C_R_ and if you want to follow the uh g uh s some uh soundtrack on the w w see they have the common thing actually
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you can have and uh There is also um a speech recognition to store channel information, names, like You can basically if you have a multiple functionality, say T_V_, V_C_R_ or something I say it
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: to the T_V_ and the T_V_, and you can programme the keys if you want to, certain keys are even the channel information.
Jake Tatro: Mm. I like the idea though of having speech recognition for like the n the name of a channel like B_B_C_, rather than having to remember the the number of it on the keypad.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Jake Tatro: That's a good idea.
Ezequiel Wilson: yeah so you you you can just uh because uh as more and more channels come then you have more and more problems to remember the v v
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: exact channel numbers ex
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: exactly, even if you arrange it by however you arrange it,
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you still have the problem to
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: remember exactly
Jake Tatro: Yeah I really
Ezequiel Wilson: which
Jake Tatro: like that idea.
Ezequiel Wilson: channel
Robert Fetters: So
Ezequiel Wilson: you
Robert Fetters: what
Ezequiel Wilson: want
Robert Fetters: functionalities
Ezequiel Wilson: to
Robert Fetters: do you suggest for that? For
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Robert Fetters: facing
Ezequiel Wilson: it
Robert Fetters: this
Ezequiel Wilson: it
Robert Fetters: problem?
Ezequiel Wilson: it's like it limited one. In the present market I saw it that says something like they are looking for eighty word thing, eighty word,
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: which shouldn't be th that difficult to implement, like eighty to hundred word. Basically you want you don't want to store all the channels in the
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: remote control, you want to st store your favourite channel.
Jake Tatro: Maybe ten channels,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Jake Tatro: yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: some
Jake Tatro: at the most.
Ezequiel Wilson: ten twelve channel information. You
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Ezequiel Wilson: know you don't want to st store all the hundred
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: channel information into that. And uh basically uh it depends like the remote with L_C_D_ display for browsing because you have multiple functionalities for example you are watching a movie, and uh uh you are having a universal remote control and you want to uh you don't know really which functionality is now, so I am using the T_V_ so every time I use it, it could be like, for example I can use a simple toggle switch, and a display, so I press it so the display says, okay, I'm in T_V_ or D_V_D_ or whatever
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: it is, instead of having three keys separately
Robert Fetters: Oh yeah yeah yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: for four
Robert Fetters: mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: keys, to model the functionalities
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: will increase actually,
Robert Fetters: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: and for you and you might want
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you don't want separate keys for all of them. You can't. And uh well there can be children friendly where you can programme your remote so that they they are not allowed uh to browse certain channels which you can block them, and you can operate them.
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: So these are the things presently which are seen in the market scenarios at present. I personally would look at things like having a u universal remote, is uh um is a good idea, like instead of having unusual ones for all of them you can
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: think of having, um with multiple functionality possibly with speech recognition. I got a mail from the the coffee machine interface unit that uh they have uh integrated the s speech recognition into a into the coffee machine, and so
Jake Tatro: Mm
Ezequiel Wilson: if you
Jake Tatro: b
Ezequiel Wilson: say hello coffee machine, it say hi Joe, or something like that, you know, and
Jake Tatro: But a coffee
Ezequiel Wilson: uh
Jake Tatro: machine, there's not too many words they'd be using with that it's a
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Jake Tatro: it's
Ezequiel Wilson: you you
Jake Tatro: a
Ezequiel Wilson: won't
Jake Tatro: small
Ezequiel Wilson: be
Jake Tatro: vocabulary.
Ezequiel Wilson: using it, so it's a limited vocabulary
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: mm thing, and very isolated word and
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: it's uh it is interesting, and basically storing the channel through voice or other ways of programming your keys,
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: on the display for the browsing which is again and maybe having something like a blinking thing, like uh it could indicate you're uh it it could indicate what is cal like the uh whether uh
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you you have enough battery in your in your uh remote,
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: the blinking. At the same time, if it's a dark room, it can be used to locate the remote also or
Robert Fetters: And you want okay for coming back to one
Jake Tatro: Two thirty
Robert Fetters: point
Jake Tatro: five supposed
Robert Fetters: y
Jake Tatro: to
Robert Fetters: you
Jake Tatro: finish.
Robert Fetters: want to let the user to programming the keys? Some of them?
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah you can let them to do
Robert Fetters: And
Ezequiel Wilson: that.
Robert Fetters: uh isn't that too difficult for the we want w I don't know if we still want the um R_C_ to be easy to use,
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: that's the
Ezequiel Wilson: N no but the
Robert Fetters: compromise.
Ezequiel Wilson: if you give it d depends on the easiness like
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: the user how much effort he can put.
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Like for example uh I would like to store in certain way, so if you want to give the full freedom to the user
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: or
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: you want to keep some constraints
Jake Tatro: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: and let the user use
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: it with that constraint.
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: I think
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Jake Tatro: you can
Ezequiel Wilson: it
Jake Tatro: do
Ezequiel Wilson: de
Jake Tatro: it both ways. You can have it so it's easy they can pick it up and use it straight away without
Robert Fetters: A standard.
Jake Tatro: doing anythi without customizing it,
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: or if they want to they have the option of using these extra features.
Edward Conner: Um yes
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: but but I do maybe you can give a hand to us because I I'm not sure whether that that we can implement that for twelve Euro and fifty cents. I'm sorry
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: to have
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Edward Conner: Every time I have to come down on this price
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: again to so this might be a little limiting for your creativity, but
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: it's it's it's the real We have to consider it. S so
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: do we think these ideas an and my uh sp speech recognition, I mean maybe it's possible for for twelve Euro but then then it will be at cost of other functionality we might implement
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: like the uh uh the the the furry uh uh case of
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: the
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm yeah like I would say that for programming uh keys, you
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: said, uh it could be uh easily uh done within the the package of twel twelve Euros,
Edward Conner: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: but for the A_S_R_ system, uh I'm not sure if it's feasible to have
Ezequiel Wilson: We
Robert Fetters: this or
Ezequiel Wilson: well we can still look
Robert Fetters: We
Ezequiel Wilson: at we can talk with the coffee unit and you can uh check
Robert Fetters: Exactly
Ezequiel Wilson: how much
Robert Fetters: yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: how
Robert Fetters: i
Ezequiel Wilson: much
Robert Fetters: if if
Ezequiel Wilson: they
Robert Fetters: it's a low vocabulary
Ezequiel Wilson: yeah
Robert Fetters: it's already
Ezequiel Wilson: yeah
Robert Fetters: implemented,
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: yeah.
Robert Fetters: and w how much it's cost, maybe with
Ezequiel Wilson: Maybe
Robert Fetters: a f
Ezequiel Wilson: we can come
Robert Fetters: cheap chip.
Edward Conner: Mm
Ezequiel Wilson: we we can
Edward Conner: mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: talk to them, and we can come with that, you know.
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: And also well you can think of having uh since you have a you know something maybe if you added little bit of display, you might need the to che keep checking the battery, so you really need a some kind of indicator, so it
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: could be a blinking option of L_E_D_
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: it could actually
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: be used to detect also. If it's in a dark room you can basically
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: detect it also.
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: So
Edward Conner: Mm.
Jake Tatro: I like the idea too of being able to use the remote in the dark, so either having the buttons so you can feel the difference between them or if they
Ezequiel Wilson: No actually
Jake Tatro: if they light up or
Ezequiel Wilson: i
Jake Tatro: something.
Ezequiel Wilson: if i it is like you know it tells you um, it can be for two purposes,
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: like if you have an L_C_D_ display and all those things
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: it's not going to be the standard remote,
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: which is having uh which need just uh six six volt uh
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: th sorry three volts um of D_C_. It may need more actually, so y you you may need to check your battery usage it and then
Robert Fetters: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you need that, some functionality to indicate the battery
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: limit.
Robert Fetters: It's true.
Ezequiel Wilson: And then if the battery limit is indicated, if it could be ind indicated through a blinking something
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: and it can change the colour depending on your uh how much is the battery, well that is good enough to even locate even if you want to.
Robert Fetters: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: You know.
Edward Conner: 'Kay good.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah so
Robert Fetters: I don't know how if if I have time to talk about the
Edward Conner: Mm yes um
Ezequiel Wilson: You you have
Edward Conner: I would
Ezequiel Wilson: time some more? Yep.
Edward Conner: Yes yes you can you can still. We have time.
Ezequiel Wilson: Sure you can you know.
Robert Fetters: Okay. So what I'm gonna present here is very uh um yeah basic knowledge about the all the the components that are inside a a R_C_ a remote control,
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: and how is it manufactured h what is the process, just to explain you. So the method is ther there is a a set of components in a in a remote control like, and uh what cost the the components in themself do not cost a lot but the the way to assemble everything costs obviously, and I will uh show you my preferences uh uh at the end. So there are two uh different types of uh um
Edward Conner: Nice.
Robert Fetters: Two different ways
Ezequiel Wilson: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: of using the the components for making a a remote control. Uh the basic way is to use a an integrated circuit and some uh transistors with an that aims at communicating uh uh the message and to to send the message to the um to the led that will uh transmit to the receiver. And uh yeah the other components and the circuit board buttons, infrared, led, etcetera, for the components um. So you finding, just to say that the chip can detect uh when a key is pressed, and then it translate to the key, to a sequence, something like morse code, as you know,
Ezequiel Wilson: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: uh with a different sequence for each key, and uh uh that's, with the components we will use, we will have different uh messages, different sequences, and the chips sends that signal signal to the transistor that amplify to make it stronger um. So electronic parts are assembled onto uh printed boards uh because it's easier to mass produce and assemble. And uh so I think for our design we want some b uh programmable uh you know V_ V_L_S_I_ or
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Robert Fetters: F_P_G_A_
Ezequiel Wilson: mm mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: uh high technology, and this is important, and also we'll use uh yeah like in any uh high-tech uh devices a chip of fi
Ezequiel Wilson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: fibreglass to them and connect them. So my personal design we need to find a solution what um what is the material of the cover we want to use. If it's plastic or
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Robert Fetters: you said that yeah you had some ideas uh like fruit, veg or I
Edward Conner: Well
Robert Fetters: dunno.
Edward Conner: well m m maybe
Robert Fetters: Yes.
Edward Conner: m maybe we can give the uh the uh the case a very uh uh normal a v very normal case but,
Robert Fetters: Yes.
Edward Conner: with the changeable covers to fancy it up.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Edward Conner: So like a normal cheap plastic case
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: which can
Robert Fetters: Yes.
Edward Conner: be covered up in, for instance, a wooden case. I
Jake Tatro: Mm
Edward Conner: mean just
Robert Fetters: Yeah like
Edward Conner: what
Jake Tatro: just
Robert Fetters: they
Jake Tatro: have
Robert Fetters: do
Jake Tatro: a
Robert Fetters: in
Jake Tatro: yeah
Robert Fetters: with cars I think. Yeah
Jake Tatro: Just
Robert Fetters: inside
Jake Tatro: the veneer
Robert Fetters: the car
Jake Tatro: on it,
Robert Fetters: yeah.
Jake Tatro: yeah.
Robert Fetters: So they also emailed Jake Tatro that uh they have available a bunch of different buttons, a scroll wheels, integrated push buttons s such as a computer mouse.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: And uh very cheap L_C_D_s, so liquid crystal displays, so I'm wondering, I think we might be able to integrate L_C_D_ into our R_C_. And the final point okay is um we have yeah there are some uh compromise to to do.
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: So we have to know that the push button requires a simple chip, but the scroll wheel uh and that kind of higher high-tech stuff needs more money um which is a higher price range alright. And the display requires an advanced chip, which in turns is more expensive than the regular chip,
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: w we could be able to handle that. So to to sum up um we need yeah so I I just said that the components uh the list of components uh has to be uh yeah listed and um and um assembly is a an important process that has to be taken into account. And uh for the designing of the cove uh uh cover layout
Ezequiel Wilson: Sorry.
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Robert Fetters: then it's better to to to maybe see that with uh the the U_R_ exp U_R_I_ Expert so that we can it's really a team-working uh.
Edward Conner: Mm.
Robert Fetters: So I I cannot design something without your agreement,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Robert Fetters: right?
Edward Conner: No
Ezequiel Wilson: so of course
Edward Conner: of
Ezequiel Wilson: for
Edward Conner: course.
Ezequiel Wilson: example uh I wanted to know like if you want to have a a fo if you want to have the L_C_D_ display
Robert Fetters: Yes.
Ezequiel Wilson: over there, or if you want to store a programmes with a keys What kind of things you'll need inside your thin inside W wh what
Robert Fetters: Yeah it's kind of um
Ezequiel Wilson: W what
Robert Fetters: simple pro progra programmable device,
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay.
Robert Fetters: and we have to insert. I
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay.
Robert Fetters: think we could insert one that could underlie several functions of
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay so in that case you can even look at the technology what the mobile phone is trying to use with the card.
Robert Fetters: Exactly yeah,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah where
Robert Fetters: for
Ezequiel Wilson: they do
Robert Fetters: customizing
Ezequiel Wilson: all the wi
Robert Fetters: and
Ezequiel Wilson: with
Robert Fetters: yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: with them actually.
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Ezequiel Wilson: How f cost effective it would be to put that car chip into it and do the
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: programmable
Edward Conner: So
Ezequiel Wilson: things.
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: So
Robert Fetters: good
Edward Conner: I
Robert Fetters: idea.
Edward Conner: f I think we we should come to some decisions now
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: uh a about this. Um so I understand uh when we want a display we need a expensive chip, but when we want a scrolling wheel w we also need the expensive chip, so can we use same chip, so with one expensive chip we can uh implement several complicated uh or advanced features.
Robert Fetters: Exactly yeah that's
Edward Conner: Yes.
Robert Fetters: a very good idea, we could have uh one main chip uh that
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: could handle, uh it's called F_P_G_A_ chip,
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: that could handle both uh like scrolling wheels as well as uh L_C_D_ and yeah.
Edward Conner: So when the more expensive chip you mentioned there is is possible in the in the given budget, uh maybe we should go for for the more expensive chip, so all features uh which you mentioned can be implemented based on the same chip.
Robert Fetters: Yes.
Ezequiel Wilson: D well
Edward Conner: Do you think that's feasible?
Ezequiel Wilson: Well I don't know if it'll fit into our cost of twelve point five Euro
Edward Conner: Uh
Ezequiel Wilson: you know.
Edward Conner: You th you think it's possible.
Ezequiel Wilson: Is it possible to fit in
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: to
Robert Fetters: also
Ezequiel Wilson: that?
Robert Fetters: thinking, I think both uh if we had a budget of twenty twenty
Ezequiel Wilson: Sorry.
Robert Fetters: uh Euros, it will be okay,
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: but uh.
Jake Tatro: Well maybe we need specific costings then. Actually do maybe two designs and then cost them out and see which one is gonna fit in our budget better.
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: Mm
Robert Fetters: that's an excellent idea.
Edward Conner: yes wh when you make a a design ca you can next meeting you can give an quite
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: an exact cost price.
Robert Fetters: yeah.
Edward Conner: That w that
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: would be
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Edward Conner: a very
Robert Fetters: because right
Edward Conner: good idea.
Robert Fetters: now I don't have price in in head but
Edward Conner: Mm.
Robert Fetters: for next meeting I'm sure yeah be able
Edward Conner: Good
Robert Fetters: to
Edward Conner: good.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah that's uh
Robert Fetters: do that.
Ezequiel Wilson: that's something which I wanted to ask you also, like what will be the each individually the cost of it.
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: For example if f if you want to put wood I wouldn't suggest for wood
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Ezequiel Wilson: uh 'cause it's I think it's m much easier to use a plastic or
Robert Fetters: I
Ezequiel Wilson: a
Robert Fetters: agree
Ezequiel Wilson: rubber
Robert Fetters: on that.
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: rather
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: than wood. It will be much ch much expensive th though it's the most natural thing, but
Edward Conner: Yes but I can I think uh I think we can just use more cheap plastic for a kind of basic edition, and
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: then
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Edward Conner: people can fancy it up with with more expensive materials
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah it's
Edward Conner: which
Ezequiel Wilson: uh
Edward Conner: which come with a with
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Edward Conner: another price.
Ezequiel Wilson: we we can give a preference to them, but it is but with plastic or the rubber or whatever it is it's much better with that rather than going for
Edward Conner: Do do you agree?
Robert Fetters: Yeah but i
Jake Tatro: Mm
Robert Fetters: it's
Jake Tatro: yeah
Robert Fetters: a detailed
Jake Tatro: sure.
Robert Fetters: uh yeah yeah uh plastic versus uh
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: wood, and we need maybe to centre our description on uh the the really the what buttons what uh functionality we want to offer to the user,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: and maybe with uh graphs or I don't know uh User Interface Designer you could maybe uh help us on that.
Edward Conner: Ma I I think uh for next meeting we c you
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: two can present a real
Ezequiel Wilson: Yea
Edward Conner: design.
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay.
Edward Conner: Uh so drawing it on the board.
Robert Fetters: Perfect yeah.
Edward Conner: And then we now sh only have to t to decide the general function uh. So um Let let's say next meeting w you produce two designs,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah sure.
Edward Conner: one one
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah we will
Edward Conner: one
Ezequiel Wilson: uh
Edward Conner: less advanced and one more advanced and
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: with the
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: cost price.
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: Uh
Ezequiel Wilson: Uh.
Edward Conner: furthermore we go for the for the uh basic plastic case
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: But that that that that can be done later.
Robert Fetters: Yeah customized.
Edward Conner: We now can concentrate on the on the basic
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: remote control. Um.
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay. We can give them smooth keys, you know. Smooth keys with bigger s uh So that you know The the problem most of the time we've seen, the keys is that it's small,
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: and every time we have to be very but if i the if we if we go to a different ways of designing those keys, then you can merge them together
Jake Tatro: So is there any
Ezequiel Wilson: to
Jake Tatro: of these that you're looking at particularly or is this
Ezequiel Wilson: Oh
Jake Tatro: just
Ezequiel Wilson: you
Jake Tatro: ideas?
Ezequiel Wilson: can actually, for example, if you see, they are they are they are quite small over here,
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: and uh now you can, for example, as I was if
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you make them big, it may change the look of the thing
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: also to the people. At the
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: same
Edward Conner: Mm-hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: time, it is m more uh like it would be more interesting for people who are having this R_S_I_ and all
Jake Tatro: Mm
Ezequiel Wilson: problem.
Edward Conner: Yes yes yes bi
Jake Tatro: yeah.
Edward Conner: big keys is
Ezequiel Wilson: Uh big keys
Edward Conner: is
Ezequiel Wilson: may
Edward Conner: good
Ezequiel Wilson: better
Edward Conner: thing
Jake Tatro: You see?
Edward Conner: I think.
Ezequiel Wilson: for them actually and uh
Robert Fetters: I agree yeah, and
Jake Tatro: Yeah.
Robert Fetters: not too m too many keys of course yeah.
Edward Conner: No
Jake Tatro: Mm
Edward Conner: no.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: well one I've had before, a r r remote control we have at home is one that's actually got a cover on the bottom so the bottom bit is just, covers half the keys most of the time,
Edward Conner: Mm
Jake Tatro: and
Edward Conner: mm mm.
Jake Tatro: then you can slide the cover back to get to the the more advanced keys.
Edward Conner: Mm
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: w but then you have still have uh when you don't use it you have such a a an extent of your remote control which you
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: don't use. So maybe it's possible uh, I don't know whether you can can indicate this, that you can
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: elsewhere open your remote
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: control and on the inside
Jake Tatro: Yeah.
Edward Conner: are uh buttons you
Jake Tatro: Um
Edward Conner: don't
Jake Tatro: yeah
Edward Conner: use that much.
Jake Tatro: I've seen that before
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: too. Anoth another like b it flips up and then you've got
Edward Conner: Yes.
Jake Tatro: another
Ezequiel Wilson: Yes.
Jake Tatro: layer of buttons underneath.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah so it's something like this, the model here s
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Robert Fetters: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: you can put the
Jake Tatro: But
Ezequiel Wilson: keys
Robert Fetters: That's what you
Jake Tatro: I've
Robert Fetters: mean?
Jake Tatro: seen also with keys and buttons on the top
Edward Conner: Yes
Jake Tatro: of here as well.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: I I
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Edward Conner: th that's what I mean so I mean something like like
Jake Tatro: I
Edward Conner: a
Jake Tatro: like
Edward Conner: book.
Jake Tatro: this one. I like the shape of this one.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah.
Jake Tatro: Can we have can we think
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Jake Tatro: about maybe
Robert Fetters: I like
Jake Tatro: having
Robert Fetters: also
Jake Tatro: a
Robert Fetters: this
Jake Tatro: a
Robert Fetters: one.
Jake Tatro: non-recta non non-rectangular one, so with not just the straight little box that's a
Robert Fetters: Yeah,
Jake Tatro: maybe curved
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah,
Robert Fetters: the point
Jake Tatro: or
Ezequiel Wilson: mm.
Robert Fetters: is
Jake Tatro: something.
Robert Fetters: w maybe we need to also to make a decision on how how how big we want to be and how many buttons
Jake Tatro: Mm
Robert Fetters: like
Jake Tatro: mm
Robert Fetters: n we
Jake Tatro: 'kay.
Robert Fetters: should dec
Ezequiel Wilson: We
Jake Tatro: Is this
Ezequiel Wilson: should
Jake Tatro: for the
Ezequiel Wilson: make
Jake Tatro: next
Robert Fetters: decide
Ezequiel Wilson: a
Jake Tatro: meeting though? I think we might be out of time
Robert Fetters: numbers
Edward Conner: Mm.
Robert Fetters: or
Jake Tatro: out of time for this meeting.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah that yeah next meeting we should be
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Edward Conner: Ju just make two designs,
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah that
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: would
Robert Fetters: yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: depend
Robert Fetters: yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: upon us actually.
Edward Conner: and the we we can decide decide between th those designs.
Jake Tatro: Yep.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yeah
Edward Conner: I
Ezequiel Wilson: okay.
Edward Conner: think that would be
Robert Fetters: Perfect.
Edward Conner: a good idea. So anyone uh any questions
Ezequiel Wilson: No
Edward Conner: for now?
Ezequiel Wilson: no.
Jake Tatro: No.
Ezequiel Wilson: I don't have.
Jake Tatro: So is this is there anything else I need to do from a marketing point of view for the next meeting?
Edward Conner: Um yes I come to that uh uh
Ezequiel Wilson: Maybe it would be interesting if you could look um for the cost inventories of other devices, if you're using speech recognition or something like that.
Edward Conner: Yes well m maybe uh, I don't know whether that's possible, maybe you
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: can start evaluating uh their work somehow.
Jake Tatro: Okay well is this Jake Tatro designing a way to evaluate it so Thinking about how to set up test groups and things?
Edward Conner: I don't know whether that's possible uh
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Edward Conner: in the given time but a as far as possible.
Jake Tatro: Okay.
Edward Conner: So
Jake Tatro: Yep.
Edward Conner: uh you two will be together
Robert Fetters: Exactly.
Edward Conner: w working on
Ezequiel Wilson: Mm.
Edward Conner: a o on two prototypes
Robert Fetters: Yeah.
Edward Conner: and further instructions will be uh will be sent to you by uh by
Robert Fetters: Two
Edward Conner: email.
Robert Fetters: or three
Ezequiel Wilson: Two.
Robert Fetters: prototypes?
Edward Conner: Two.
Robert Fetters: Two?
Ezequiel Wilson: One for like cost
Edward Conner: I
Ezequiel Wilson: and the one with like higher-end
Robert Fetters: Okay.
Edward Conner: Mm
Jake Tatro: Mm.
Ezequiel Wilson: so that
Edward Conner: and then
Ezequiel Wilson: then we can be easily comparing them
Robert Fetters: Yeah
Ezequiel Wilson: or
Edward Conner: Hmm.
Robert Fetters: and find
Ezequiel Wilson: you
Robert Fetters: maybe
Ezequiel Wilson: know
Robert Fetters: a compromise.
Ezequiel Wilson: find a compromise
Jake Tatro: Hmm.
Ezequiel Wilson: between both of them,
Edward Conner: Yes
Ezequiel Wilson: yeah
Edward Conner: okay.
Ezequiel Wilson: that's how it is.
Robert Fetters: Perfect
Jake Tatro: Mm-hmm.
Robert Fetters: yeah.
Ezequiel Wilson: Yep.
Edward Conner: Okay let's call this to an end.
Jake Tatro: Mm
Ezequiel Wilson: Okay.
Jake Tatro: 'kay. Thanks guys.
Robert Fetters: Thanks.
Ezequiel Wilson: So we are done for now. | Then Edward Conner opens the meeting announcing that they will address conceptual design and then giving the agenda. Matthew arrives late and Jake Tatro begins her presentation about trends. She emphasizes that the remote needs to be exciting, contain a cool feature, and be somewhat intuitive. She reports that currently fruits and vegetables are fashionable- thus bright eye-catching colors, bold designs, and a spongy feel is appropriate. She lists ideas such as changable covers, a locator, speech recognition, and LCD screens. The industrial specialist presents, talking about how a remote typically has different keys, structures and forms. He likes the idea of implenting speech recognition into a universal remote. They discuss without certainity about the cost of such functions. Robert Fetters presents about remote control components and the manufacturing process, listing options such as various buttons, scroll wheels, integrated push buttons like those in a computer mouse, and LCDs. They discuss the project budget and the possibility of using an expensive chip. They decide to make two designs, one more advanced than the other. Edward Conner closes the meeting by telling each group member what his/her tasks will be until the next meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: So we are here for concept design meeting. So, we will first start by summarizing the mm the previous meeting and the decision we've taken. Uh I will take notes during this meeting so uh that you can uh look at my uh folder to see the summary of this meeting afterwards. So each of you will uh show us the various investigation they've done during uh previous uh hours. We'll then t take decision in concert then uh uh we will uh define the nest next, to have to be done before the next meeting. So, last time we decided to have a simple interface. We also decided to have a wheel to change channel previous channel button. Channel digit uh buttons should be uh protected by plastic cover or something for the remote control to look very simple. We have also button for volume, and to switch on off the T_V_. We have also uh the lightening feature for the remote control to be easy to find, and for fast development and low cost we have decided to have no L_C_D_ no voice features. So now uh we will have three presentations. So the conceptual specification by Industrial Designer, the specification of the U_I_ by or
Cory Ayers: Abdul
Ricky Siegel: U_I_
Cory Ayers: al-Hasred is my name.
Ricky Siegel: okay. And uh the last point is uh trend watching by Market Expert. So maybe we can start with uh industrial design. So this is the presentation.
Felix Jones: Uh, I_D_ you want?
Ricky Siegel: Maybe I can switch slide
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: uh on your request.
Felix Jones: I v have three slides, so. I just look at the mm um just this. On some web pages
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Felix Jones: to find some documentation and I think a remote control is, as I s mentioned previously, you just have a a very simple chip and the mm the user interface is just done usually by push button and in our case we are using a um a wheel control.
Felix Jones: standard, and uh I just looked for the wheel sensor and the standard push button. And um yeah we can change directly.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Felix Jones: In fact I have the number of that element which is very standard for remote control. The push button are usually extremely cheap, but I just have one problem and this is related with the wheel sensor, which seems to be quite expensive.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Felix Jones: And I think we if we could just talk about that if we really need a wheel sensor or if we can not if if we could combine something with the push button.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Felix Jones: Uh
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: a wheel sensor is fifty time the price of a a a push button.
Ricky Siegel: But
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Ricky Siegel: is it a significant price on the whole remote control? Because
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: we can afford up to twelve Euros for the price of the remote control.
Felix Jones: Yeah I I
Ricky Siegel: So
Felix Jones: th
Ricky Siegel: will will will this with uh including all possible things, so buttons, wheel and the chip, be uh lower than twelve Euros to produce?
Felix Jones: But I don't think that uh we should We should talk about uh the
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: design of the box also which
Ricky Siegel: Okay
Felix Jones: needs some
Cory Ayers: Also
Felix Jones: money.
Cory Ayers: have to
Felix Jones: But
Cory Ayers: say Did you receive the email about the voice recognition?
Felix Jones: Um that's all
Cory Ayers: No?
Felix Jones: yeah.
Ricky Siegel: You received
Felix Jones: I haven't
Ricky Siegel: something
Felix Jones: chec
Cory Ayers: Yeah. You we uh an email from the manufacturing division that they have basically a voice recognition chip already developed.
Ricky Siegel: Hmm.
Cory Ayers: Says Yeah. It says that ri right now they just use it to uh to record uh answers to particular questions. But I guess
Ricky Siegel: And
Cory Ayers: it could
Ricky Siegel: could
Cory Ayers: be
Ricky Siegel: it be adapted?
Cory Ayers: I guess it's possible. I mean instead of recording the answers you can just uh record uh something simpler like
Ricky Siegel: Okay
Cory Ayers: a
Ricky Siegel: and
Cory Ayers: command.
Ricky Siegel: there can uh recognize some commands
Cory Ayers: Yeah
Ricky Siegel: and stuff?
Cory Ayers: you reco recognize commands and you can record new commands and stuff, so if they already
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: have it as uh as a chip
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: then we we could use it.
Ricky Siegel: Okay maybe we can just uh listen to this presentation and then take decision later
Cory Ayers: Okay.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: on according
Felix Jones: Yeah
Ricky Siegel: to those news.
Felix Jones: but I think it's yeah Sorry, I haven't written my personal references. Um the I I just want to mention the the problem of the the r wheels sensor which is much more expensive than any push button,
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Felix Jones: and if we could reduce that. We
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Felix Jones: we have already some good things uh with um um with the backlight of the push button.
Cory Ayers: I have a question about that actually. Um, what is the purpose of the light?
Felix Jones: Just to to make something which is uh slightly more design that uh a
Cory Ayers: Is
Felix Jones: squarey box
Ricky Siegel: You can
Felix Jones: with
Ricky Siegel: easily
Felix Jones: a rubber
Ricky Siegel: find the button
Cory Ayers: But
Ricky Siegel: in the dark or so?
Cory Ayers: But in th in the dark uh Yeah but is going to be always turned on, the light?
Ricky Siegel: It will be turned on when the when the user move the remote control I think, no?
Cory Ayers: But if you move it then you have it, you don't need to find it.
Ricky Siegel: Hmm.
Cory Ayers: You can see the buttons better, of course.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. Yeah. True.
Felix Jones: Yeah. Actually.
Cory Ayers: But if you move it then you have to have some sensor to when you move it to detect your movement.
Felix Jones: As soon as you thought to move the the remote control you have the light.
Cory Ayers: Yeah, but you need another sensor for that, right?
Felix Jones: Yeah. Again.
Cory Ayers: Yeah no it's too expensive.
Felix Jones: I don't think that this is really expensive, but
Cory Ayers: Okay.
Felix Jones: at the end this is plenty of
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Felix Jones: unexpen eh
Cory Ayers: Extra.
Felix Jones: very cheap
Cory Ayers: Yeah, okay.
Felix Jones: devices but uh
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Felix Jones: the bill starts to be
Cory Ayers: Yeah, but I expected also the wheel would be cheap but you tell John Owens that it is very expensive so, yeah.
Felix Jones: First of all I was thinking to have a a continuous light and you w when t you you you you press the on button you have
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Felix Jones: the light on your remote control, when
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Felix Jones: you want to turn off your device
Ricky Siegel: But it can be uh battery consuming, no? To
Felix Jones: Yeah,
Ricky Siegel: have
Felix Jones: a
Ricky Siegel: the light
Felix Jones: little
Ricky Siegel: always on?
Felix Jones: bit. A little
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Felix Jones: bit.
Ricky Siegel: Well we will discuss that after maybe
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: Okay.
Ricky Siegel: the
Cory Ayers: So
Ricky Siegel: other presentations.
Cory Ayers: uh my one, it uh should be in the shared folder.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: So. It was last time I saw it.
Ricky Siegel: And it is.
Cory Ayers: Okay. So,
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: just move to the next slide. So basically want very simple, right? That's the major idea, as simple
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: as possible.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: So I just look at some current designs uh on the web, of usually more complicated remote controls. And let's look at two of them because uh th even though they have many buttons they look quite simple. And in our case we just uh reject the buttons what we don't need
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: and it become even simpler. Um. So.
Ricky Siegel: And also does it uh fit well in hand? Because it was uh th
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: your wrist problem
Cory Ayers: Well this
Ricky Siegel: with the usage.
Cory Ayers: these uh these remotes are quite big, so go to the next page, so. We have all these buttons as you can see, but most
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: of them, we just need the ones in the middle.
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: So, from the bottom or whatever is there,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: uh the uh the numbers and then the top, uh until the ten also, this middle part,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: and on the left one is exactly the same. So it's basically more or less how we would like it, with a big volume control, big channel control, and mute and power, yeah?
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: These are the basic thing.
Ricky Siegel: So it's only the central part.
Cory Ayers: So basically, w software we will build will look more or less the same as these two.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. With a maybe a more ergonomic design on on the
Cory Ayers: Yeah, if you
Ricky Siegel: bottom
Cory Ayers: have, for
Ricky Siegel: part.
Cory Ayers: example I think that the volume and the buttons that are there on the top are not very easy to reach with your thumb. It
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: could be on the right side, for example.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: Yeah. Because we don't have these input buttons and this other stuff that they have. And I think that the plastic cover is not very good uh
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: idea because you open it, it can break, you ca you can do various things. Uh
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: you just need
Ricky Siegel: S
Cory Ayers: to put the channel numbers somewhere a bit out of the way.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: So
Ricky Siegel: Will
Cory Ayers: that they're separate
Ricky Siegel: be down
Cory Ayers: a bit,
Ricky Siegel: or
Cory Ayers: yeah.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: Uh and it's easy to press the other the big buttons, but uh, it's not that difficult to press the the channel buttons either. Mm. Yeah, I think that if you put the cover it will be even more difficult for the user.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: Alright, you won't yeah. Usually what I have noticed that people put the plastic cover on things that you normally don't mess with, like buttons for t uh tuning the channels and
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: stuff like that. Yeah. That you want to protect a bit. And I think it's uh it's reasonable.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
Cory Ayers: So, I don't think Yeah, this is just the the wheel. We could
Ricky Siegel: Mm.
Cory Ayers: use the some wheels can be pushed down, could use the push down of the wheel for the record if we want.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Cory Ayers: Uh so we could just basically use one just wheel and uh user could use just the wheel to do everything with
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: the channels in that case.
Ricky Siegel: Maybe the wheel will be a good advantage over our competitors.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: Because otherwise it's pretty standard apart the fact that it's very simple. So maybe it's worse to uh
Felix Jones: To
Ricky Siegel: to
Felix Jones: s
Ricky Siegel: have more expense on that's that aspect.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Cory Ayers: Yeah, I guess the market researcher will tell us all about that.
Ricky Siegel: Okay. So we can move to the Is there any question? For designer of user interface? or we can move to the next part, maybe, and discuss afterwards?
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
John Owens: Okay, I can go? Can
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: I? So now the recent investigation we we have done fo of the remote control um. So, the most important aspect for remote controls is to be fancy look and feel and not current functional look and feel. And um the second aspect is uh that the remote control should be uh technological innovative.
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
John Owens: And the third most important aspect is to to is that the co remote control should be easy to use. about before.
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: Yeah. And um so you you can go
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: after. And there is a fashion watchers in Paris and Milan that have detected the following trends, uh fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes, and furnitures. So, maybe if our remote control have to be a fruit form or vegetable form something
Ricky Siegel: Okay.
John Owens: like that, or
Felix Jones: I support an apple.
John Owens: And the mm the material is expected to be spongy. Uh I don't know which material can be spongy,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: and if you
Ricky Siegel: This is good
Cory Ayers: Well,
Ricky Siegel: also
Cory Ayers: wou wou
Ricky Siegel: for
Cory Ayers: I think we can certainly just put the electronics in a spongy thing, it it
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: would work, right?
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: Mm-hmm.
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: I think it is good also f to have a spongy
Cory Ayers: You can throw it to
Ricky Siegel: material,
Cory Ayers: the television.
Ricky Siegel: yeah. Yeah, because
John Owens: Okay
Ricky Siegel: it's
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: robust.
Felix Jones: John Owens too.
John Owens: It's robust, yeah.
Cory Ayers: Hey that's a cool one. We could say that if you throw it, you have a sensor, and you throw it and hits the television and turns it off. When it d uh takes a shock.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah uh
Felix Jones: Ah
John Owens: Not good.
Ricky Siegel: sorry?
Felix Jones: it's okay. I know that they do that for alarm clock
John Owens: An
Felix Jones: also.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
John Owens: and and uh this uh you can yeah you can say that. You ca uh you
Ricky Siegel: No.
John Owens: can go
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: uh before,
Ricky Siegel: Before?
John Owens: before, yes. And you know here the more iz important aspect is the fancy look and feel,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: after is uh technological innovative,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: and after the easy to
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
John Owens: use.
Ricky Siegel: I think it's innovative to use the mm the wheel because I
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: think
John Owens: Yeah
Ricky Siegel: no one
John Owens: that's why
Ricky Siegel: else has.
John Owens: Yeah
Ricky Siegel: Has
John Owens: that's
Ricky Siegel: it?
John Owens: why I think we have to keep that if it's possible.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. I think
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: it's it makes it both easy and both innos innovative.
John Owens: Innovative.
Ricky Siegel: So
John Owens: Mm.
Ricky Siegel: I think it's a good aspect and it should
Cory Ayers: How
Ricky Siegel: be
Cory Ayers: do
Ricky Siegel: kept.
Cory Ayers: we make it look cool is the question.
Ricky Siegel: Cool, fancy?
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: We have to make it l look like a fruit or vegetable.
John Owens: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: Maybe
Felix Jones: What about
Ricky Siegel: uh
Felix Jones: um
Ricky Siegel: um
John Owens: Mm.
Ricky Siegel: a colour that remember
John Owens: Oh,
Ricky Siegel: some
John Owens: colour,
Ricky Siegel: fruit
John Owens: yeah.
Ricky Siegel: uh, things like that.
Cory Ayers: Well the obvious thing
John Owens: Oh i
Cory Ayers: is a banana, I guess.
John Owens: i
Ricky Siegel: Maybe yeah.
John Owens: I thought about a a pear, for example. You know the pear, is like that and it's it's easy to
Ricky Siegel: Yeah,
John Owens: to have in in
Ricky Siegel: and
John Owens: hand
Ricky Siegel: it's ergonomic
John Owens: and uh
Ricky Siegel: as well.
John Owens: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: A pear.
Cory Ayers: The banana is also ergonomic.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. Maybe pear yeah or something like that.
John Owens: Or a fruit like that. I dunno.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. We can discuss that uh. D D Is is there anything you want to add?
Cory Ayers: Is there any fruit that is spongy?
Ricky Siegel: I don't think so. I think we we can have like yeah a pear is good, fit well, or banana as you told.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: And
Ricky Siegel: Something like
Felix Jones: for
Ricky Siegel: that.
Felix Jones: maybe look and feel, what about a a piece of ice, with blue L_E_D_ inside?
Ricky Siegel: But that's
Cory Ayers: You can
Ricky Siegel: not
Cory Ayers: make
Ricky Siegel: in
Cory Ayers: it
Ricky Siegel: the trend.
Cory Ayers: um
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: The trend is spongy, and vegetable
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: fruits.
Cory Ayers: It's not hard, the metal.
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: I
Cory Ayers: Plastic.
Ricky Siegel: think p spongy is good because it it will be robust as well.
Felix Jones: Yep.
Ricky Siegel: So, I think we can keep the wheel because it's
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: uh easy, it's innovative, even if the cost is a bit higher, and we also have to find a, so, a fruit like pear or banana wit uh any others idea you have. What kind of fr fruit would you like to to control your T_V_ with?
Cory Ayers: Mm.
Ricky Siegel: Odi
Felix Jones: Banana I think, it's a nice idea.
Ricky Siegel: Banana is also
Felix Jones: Because
Ricky Siegel: yellow so you you
Felix Jones: But
Ricky Siegel: can't lost your remote control
John Owens: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: then.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: You y you don't use the banana when the
Cory Ayers: Two of
Felix Jones: banana
Cory Ayers: the button,
Felix Jones: is
Cory Ayers: yeah.
Felix Jones: curving like that, but when the banana is curving like that,
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: with the wheel on the top
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: and to control, and here you have
John Owens: But you
Felix Jones: a
John Owens: don't
Felix Jones: a
John Owens: have
Felix Jones: push button to
Ricky Siegel: I think
Cory Ayers: Yeah so you
Ricky Siegel: it's
Cory Ayers: can just
Ricky Siegel: a
Cory Ayers: have
Ricky Siegel: good
Cory Ayers: uh
Ricky Siegel: idea, yeah.
Cory Ayers: just have this curve, yeah, and you move uh your hand here to press the buttons and then you move uh on the other side.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: So you can
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: have it on on two sides and it'll be cool, no?
Ricky Siegel: Yeah. then. Maybe we can keep the banana. And it will be very easy to find.
Cory Ayers: You
Felix Jones: And
Cory Ayers: can put also
Felix Jones: everybody
Cory Ayers: vibrator
Felix Jones: knows
Cory Ayers: inside.
Felix Jones: what is a banana. Basically.
John Owens: Yeah.
Felix Jones: If you if you start with uh fancy fruits and
Cory Ayers: Ah-ha.
Felix Jones: fra s
Cory Ayers: You can
Felix Jones: and
Cory Ayers: also
Felix Jones: tha
Cory Ayers: take into account the fact that the banana fits with the colour scheme of our company.
Felix Jones: Oh,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Felix Jones: yeah
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah it's really uh really a good point.
Cory Ayers: I hope the students of management die, but anyway. Now who are recording this meeting?
Ricky Siegel: I think it So One second. So we have to take some decision on this aspect. So, uh so for sorry, for uh component, so
Felix Jones: So
Ricky Siegel: we have to think about those aspects, sorry.
Felix Jones: So we will just use a a standard battery?
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Felix Jones: And uh the chip we chip imprint we know exactly which one we are going to use. Uh what do you mean by case?
Ricky Siegel: I think it's the box that should be spongy, banana's
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: shape.
Felix Jones: Uh I mean for John Owens if we use a a spongy banana case, doesn't matter. I just want to have so something
Cory Ayers: The only th
Felix Jones: to prin to to fix my
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: my components onto that box,
Cory Ayers: Y
Felix Jones: and
Cory Ayers: Yeah that
Felix Jones: that's
Cory Ayers: can
Felix Jones: it.
Cory Ayers: be in inside th in the
Felix Jones: Yeah
Cory Ayers: structure.
Felix Jones: yeah. Yeah.
Cory Ayers: But uh the thing is that the buttons and the wheel have to be I mean
Felix Jones: Spongy
Cory Ayers: if it's spongy
Felix Jones: also.
Cory Ayers: then the buttons and the wheel have to I mean if it's spongy then it's going to move, right? So, it's going to be bend a lot. So if we try
Felix Jones: Oh
Cory Ayers: to
Ricky Siegel: But
Felix Jones: no
Cory Ayers: push the
Felix Jones: I think
Cory Ayers: buttons,
Felix Jones: it's
Cory Ayers: it
Felix Jones: possible.
Cory Ayers: You think it's
Ricky Siegel: No
Cory Ayers: possible?
Ricky Siegel: the button would be In fact it it should be something odd shaped, with
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: a spongy cover.
Cory Ayers: Okay.
Felix Jones: Yeah. This is uh like
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Felix Jones: the
Ricky Siegel: Okay odd shape with spongy cover. And standard battery okay, a chip imprint, there's no specific problem. So we agree to put the wheel
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm. Wheel on the top. Button, where do we want some buttons?
Cory Ayers: Well, usually hold 'Kay, we want it to be good also for the left-hand users, right?
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: Uh
Ricky Siegel: So it have to it has to be symmetrical.
Cory Ayers: Yeah but okay. Sa let's say that th o It has to be basically you can only take two sides, one on ths this side where is the thumb and the other side where there is uh
Felix Jones: Yep.
Cory Ayers: yeah also the thumb.
Felix Jones: Yep.
Cory Ayers: Basically. Or you could use use this one, but I don't know if it's very comfortable, to use
Ricky Siegel: Yeah
Cory Ayers: this one
Ricky Siegel: maybe
Cory Ayers: for the
Ricky Siegel: the
Cory Ayers: wheel.
Ricky Siegel: thumb is more comfortable.
Cory Ayers: This for the wheel and then this for the buttons?
Ricky Siegel: Yeah
Cory Ayers: Should
Ricky Siegel: I think
Cory Ayers: have
Ricky Siegel: it's
Cory Ayers: the
Ricky Siegel: okay
Cory Ayers: two sides.
Ricky Siegel: for both right and left.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: Mm.
Cory Ayers: So if the left, we have the op
Ricky Siegel: I think you can turn it this way also. You can
Cory Ayers: Wheel
Ricky Siegel: do both with
Cory Ayers: Wheel buttons.
Ricky Siegel: both hands.
Cory Ayers: Yeah, the problem
Ricky Siegel: I think
Cory Ayers: is if
Ricky Siegel: it's
Cory Ayers: you have
Ricky Siegel: okay.
Cory Ayers: buttons and wheel then when you turn it around, the buttons are on the other side. So you cannot see them.
Ricky Siegel: Well, you
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: you will get used to it. And moreover,
Cory Ayers: So the buttons have to be here
Ricky Siegel: th
Cory Ayers: and the wheel
Ricky Siegel: the button
Cory Ayers: has
Ricky Siegel: ar
Cory Ayers: to be
Ricky Siegel: are lighted so you you immediately identify the right side, because
Cory Ayers: Y
Ricky Siegel: you have light on buttons.
Cory Ayers: Yeah I know, but uh if you hold with your left hand, and the wheel is here, and the buttons are here,
Ricky Siegel: Yeah.
Cory Ayers: then when you turn it around the buttons will be on the other side.
Ricky Siegel: No you you I think you will use it only on the right or left hand, whether you are righty or lefty. I think for lefty it's okay. I can do this movement, and for righty as well. I think this doesn't change that much.
Cory Ayers: Okay.
Ricky Siegel: Yeah?
Cory Ayers: Okay. Maybe. Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: So, for interface we said also that we have uh this banana shape with button on the s on the side. And and uh a wheel on the top.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: So the colour is yellow. I think it's uh we defined everything according to what we should what the decision we should take, yeah. So maybe we can um we can uh work on those aspects uh until next meeting. So have the final uh look and feel design according to the decision. And have the the user interface design and uh then evaluate the prodyuc the product. That is to say, uh check if it fit the the requirement uh given by the users, but according to uh your presentation it seems to be okay. It seems to be fancy, innovative, and easy to use.
Felix Jones: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: So so to prepare the prototype I would suggest that Felix Jones and Cory Ayers uh work together. That would uh
Felix Jones: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: be better, I think. And uh And so uh you will receive further instruction by emails, as usual.
Cory Ayers: Mm-hmm.
Ricky Siegel: So
Cory Ayers: Yes master.
Ricky Siegel: do you need to add anything?
Cory Ayers: No.
Ricky Siegel: You feel okay?
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: You feel uh free to express what you want to say?
Cory Ayers: Yeah.
Ricky Siegel: You don't feel too constrained?
Cory Ayers: No.
Ricky Siegel: You don't feel free to answer this?
Cory Ayers: Maybe you can make uh uh mm okay.
Ricky Siegel: Okay, so
Felix Jones: Thank you.
Ricky Siegel: See you. | Felix Jones presented the functional components that will appear in the prototype, and discussed with the group the high cost of the wheel sensor and the possibility of incorporating speech recognition. Cory Ayers presented existing remote controls to help show the interface of the prototype. He showed how the new design will be more simple and ergonomic than the models he displayed by eliminating extra functions. John Owens presented news about trends in fashion and in the market that will be incorporated into the design. A fruit and vegetable theme and spongy materials are popular trends that will be used in the design. The group finalized which features they wanted to integrate into the design. They decided to make the remote shaped like a banana and spongy, to have the buttons lighted, to have a wheel sensor at the top of the device, and to use only a standard chip and battery that would not accomodate speech recognition. Ricky Siegel instructed Cory Ayers and Felix Jones to construct the prototype, and announced that the prototype would be evaluated in the next meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Alexander Rice: Okay. Je croix que c'est dommage de le it will be sad to destroy this prototype. It really looks like a banana.
Curtis Davis: It is a banana.
Alexander Rice: It is a
Curtis Davis: It
Alexander Rice: banana.
Curtis Davis: is of bananas. I would be confused with this thing.
Alexander Rice: Mm.
Curtis Davis: S
Robert Glover: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Curtis Davis: How is everyone?
Alexander Rice: Hi.
Lucas Murray: Hi.
Alexander Rice: So we are here for the detailed design meeting.
Curtis Davis: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: So we will uh I will first present what we are going to do in this meeting. Then uh I've I will also take notes during this meeting and I will send you uh a summary then as usual. We will then look the our two colleagues that make good work. And uh then we will see the financial aspects and the cost of the product. Then we will uh evaluate the product. And uh end with the conclusion of this project and see whether it fits with it fulf if it fulfil the requirement or not.
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: So d let's start with the cost aspect so so I look at the aspect discussed last time, that is to say uh to have a standard battery, to have a yellow banana shaped uh case with uh a rubber material around it to be uh
Curtis Davis: Like
Alexander Rice: to
Curtis Davis: a banana.
Alexander Rice: feel spongy, and uh also at the different aspect like having a wheel
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: etcetera. And the cost ended to be ten point seven Euros. So which is uh good, because we had a price gap of twelve point five Euros.
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: So for the financial aspect it's okay, we can uh we can continue with this product uh as if, and we are now going to see the project evaluation with uh our marketing expert.
Robert Glover: Okay. So uh you can have my
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Robert Glover: project in
Alexander Rice: You have a presentation?
Robert Glover: Uh yeah just a
Alexander Rice: Participant
Robert Glover: Four.
Alexander Rice: four, yes.
Robert Glover: Evaluation.
Alexander Rice: Okay. Okay.
Robert Glover: Okay. So you can go. We can go through.
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: So I made an evaluation and the the evaluation criteria is made according to the users' requirements and the market trends we talked about uh during the previous uh meetings. So you can go through and
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: okay so uh we have uh six points. We we talked about before.
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: So want to have a product fancy look and feel, technologically innovative, easy to use, fashion, easy to find in a room, and robust,
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Robert Glover: uh and uh uh I have a scale of uh seven points.
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Robert Glover: Okay. So I go through all the uh all the points here,
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Robert Glover: and uh according to what you think about the this project you can uh mm make a one point, two point or seven point. Okay?
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: And after we ha we have an an average, and uh we see.
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: The okay? Uh so uh fancy look and feel, what do
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: you think?
Alexander Rice: Maybe you can
Robert Glover: F between
Alexander Rice: presen
Robert Glover: o one and seven.
Alexander Rice: okay. Maybe hold it. So I think it's uh very uh very nice.
Curtis Davis: I
Alexander Rice: What
Curtis Davis: give
Alexander Rice: do
Curtis Davis: it
Alexander Rice: you think?
Curtis Davis: a I give it a five.
Alexander Rice: Yeah. So it's between one and seven?
Robert Glover: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: Seven is the highest uh?
Robert Glover: Seven
Alexander Rice: I will
Robert Glover: is the
Alexander Rice: give a six.
Lucas Murray: I will give a a five.
Robert Glover: Mm-hmm.
Curtis Davis: And
Robert Glover: sorry.
Curtis Davis: you? Do you vote uh Christine?
Robert Glover: eh?
Curtis Davis: Do you also vote?
Robert Glover: No, I just want to see something
Alexander Rice: Maybe we all have to agree on a common
Curtis Davis: Well, we can very easily.
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Robert Glover: Mm-hmm. Uh I think uh and need to as well.
Alexander Rice: No problem.
Robert Glover: Need to
Alexander Rice: So
Robert Glover: uh I
Alexander Rice: this
Robert Glover: don't know if
Alexander Rice: is
Robert Glover: you
Alexander Rice: your
Robert Glover: we ha we have to put uh one uh f If it's better or
Alexander Rice: One
Curtis Davis: I
Alexander Rice: is most.
Robert Glover: Uh-uh. Um.
Alexander Rice: Well, we can choose what we want.
Robert Glover: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: Okay,
Robert Glover: Or maybe
Alexander Rice: let's
Robert Glover: we
Alexander Rice: say
Robert Glover: can
Alexander Rice: that
Robert Glover: say
Alexander Rice: seven is the best.
Robert Glover: s seven is the best
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: mm.
Alexander Rice: So so do note the grade we have five, six for Robert Glover,
Lucas Murray: Five.
Alexander Rice: five. And
Robert Glover: Oh sorry.
Alexander Rice: what what's your choice?
Robert Glover: Six
Alexander Rice: How much would you give on the fancy aspect, on
Robert Glover: Uh
Alexander Rice: the fashionable aspect?
Robert Glover: s you can how much what?
Alexander Rice: How much would you you don't answer to this uh
Robert Glover: Oh yes
Alexander Rice: questionnaire?
Robert Glover: I mm I dunno mm, I think six, it's a good uh
Curtis Davis: So it will have five point five average.
Alexander Rice: Five point five average.
Robert Glover: Yeah. Wa
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Curtis Davis: Mm.
Robert Glover: can. Okay.
Alexander Rice: Well, does it
Robert Glover: I sorry. Okay. So after, the technological aspect?
Alexander Rice: Okay, techne technological aspect.
Robert Glover: So we we said uh we have uh a new technological uh thing with a wheel.
Alexander Rice: Yeah, we have the wheel.
Robert Glover: Uh.
Alexander Rice: We also have the rubber material, which make it uh like new also. I think I would give a five.
Curtis Davis: It's four.
Alexander Rice: Four?
Lucas Murray: A four also,
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Lucas Murray: because, except for the wheel, we don't have so much innovation. The rubber is
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Curtis Davis: D are we including
Lucas Murray: Uh a four.
Curtis Davis: the
Lucas Murray: I
Curtis Davis: voice
Lucas Murray: I
Curtis Davis: are you glu we including the voice in the end or
Alexander Rice: No.
Curtis Davis: not? Huh? No. Okay.
Alexander Rice: So
Robert Glover: No.
Alexander Rice: what's your uh grade?
Robert Glover: Four.
Alexander Rice: Four? So we have four, four f and five?
Robert Glover: We can put four?
Curtis Davis: Yeah. For
Alexander Rice: Yeah,
Curtis Davis: twenty
Alexander Rice: four.
Robert Glover: Everyone
Curtis Davis: five.
Robert Glover: is okay or
Alexander Rice: Four,
Robert Glover: four poin
Alexander Rice: yeah, let's put four.
Robert Glover: Four.
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Robert Glover: Okay.
Alexander Rice: Doesn't it
Robert Glover: Very easy to use. Do you think it's easy to use?
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: Yeah, I think
Curtis Davis: I give a
Alexander Rice: so.
Curtis Davis: seven, I think.
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Lucas Murray: Six.
Alexander Rice: I would give a I would give a seven as well. It's very easy to use.
Robert Glover: Mm,
Lucas Murray: Six.
Robert Glover: six for Robert Glover also.
Alexander Rice: So
Robert Glover: Six
Curtis Davis: 'Kay.
Robert Glover: point five.
Alexander Rice: six point
Lucas Murray: Six
Alexander Rice: five.
Lucas Murray: six six point five.
Robert Glover: Okay.
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Robert Glover: Is it fashion?
Alexander Rice: Oh yeah, its its f its fruit
Robert Glover: Seven?
Alexander Rice: fruit shape. I would say seven. And is very
Robert Glover: Yeah
Alexander Rice: very
Robert Glover: it's
Alexander Rice: nice
Robert Glover: fashion,
Alexander Rice: design.
Robert Glover: because it's a fruit, and
Curtis Davis: Yeah,
Robert Glover: we say
Curtis Davis: we can we
Robert Glover: that
Curtis Davis: can put
Robert Glover: the
Curtis Davis: a seven here. Yeah.
Lucas Murray: Yeah,
Robert Glover: yeah, seven.
Lucas Murray: seven.
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: Seven, okay.
Curtis Davis: Well, we hope.
Lucas Murray: Easy
Robert Glover: Uh
Lucas Murray: to find.
Robert Glover: easy to find in a room?
Lucas Murray: I lost my banana.
Alexander Rice: I think you can't miss it.
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Robert Glover: Yeah?
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Lucas Murray: Uh.
Curtis Davis: Yeah, I think it's cool. I think we can put a six here.
Robert Glover: We have the lightning, or
Alexander Rice: Yeah,
Robert Glover: The lighting.
Alexander Rice: we have the we don't sesh especially
Curtis Davis: So you'll
Alexander Rice: have
Curtis Davis: make
Alexander Rice: the
Curtis Davis: the
Alexander Rice: lightning
Curtis Davis: material
Alexander Rice: but
Curtis Davis: transparent so that it uh lights up completely, or
Alexander Rice: So it's yellow. It's okay. I think
Robert Glover: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: it's very easy to
Robert Glover: Seven?
Alexander Rice: I would say seven. It's hard to
Lucas Murray: Six.
Alexander Rice: miss it.
Lucas Murray: Yeah,
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Robert Glover: Is it
Lucas Murray: okay.
Robert Glover: is it robust?
Alexander Rice: Yeah, it's
Lucas Murray: Uh f
Alexander Rice: rubber,
Lucas Murray: yeah,
Alexander Rice: made of rubber, I think it's m it's uh more rubber than uh
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: other remote
Curtis Davis: Yeah
Alexander Rice: control.
Curtis Davis: the only problem there might be which know, i if it's very sensitive,
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: they will,
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: I don't know
Alexander Rice: But it is uh it is surrounded by rubber material.
Curtis Davis: Yeah,
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: okay.
Alexander Rice: So maybe we can put a six.
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Mm.
Lucas Murray: Six
Robert Glover: Everybody is
Lucas Murray: or five.
Robert Glover: okay, six.
Lucas Murray: Five.
Alexander Rice: Six
Curtis Davis: Six,
Alexander Rice: is okay?
Curtis Davis: yeah, for
Lucas Murray: Six.
Robert Glover: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Robert Glover.
Robert Glover: Okay.
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Robert Glover: S now
Alexander Rice: Tadada.
Robert Glover: um so.
Alexander Rice: We have to
Curtis Davis: Twenty.
Alexander Rice: sum up
Robert Glover: Thirteen
Alexander Rice: everything.
Robert Glover: uh, twenty, twenty six point five, uh seven,
Curtis Davis: Thirty.
Robert Glover: thirty two, thirty
Curtis Davis: Thir
Robert Glover: six. That's that's okay? Six.
Curtis Davis: Okay.
Alexander Rice: Six is a
Robert Glover: Good.
Alexander Rice: good
Robert Glover: Uh if we say that seven it's uh
Curtis Davis: Yeah,
Alexander Rice: Yeah,
Robert Glover: it's
Curtis Davis: the
Alexander Rice: the
Robert Glover: the
Alexander Rice: be.
Curtis Davis: top
Robert Glover: better, and when uh s
Alexander Rice: Okay,
Curtis Davis: Mm.
Alexander Rice: so
Robert Glover: six
Alexander Rice: six
Robert Glover: sit
Alexander Rice: is
Robert Glover: six
Alexander Rice: a
Robert Glover: are good it's a good uh p product,
Curtis Davis: So will
Robert Glover: I think.
Curtis Davis: become eight soon?
Alexander Rice: So it's a good evaluation, I think. It's very promising.
Curtis Davis: Yeah, well it's a bit biased.
Robert Glover: We have a good
Alexander Rice: Huh.
Robert Glover: price and uh.
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Okay.
Robert Glover: Good.
Alexander Rice: So this prototype is quite nice.
Curtis Davis: Because I saw uh some phones that were banana shaped,
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: uh wireless phones not mobile ones, wireless
Alexander Rice: Okay.
Curtis Davis: for the house, uh quite big also, and they were selling something like a hundred Euros, two hundred Euros. Just a just a phone, wireless.
Lucas Murray: Mm-hmm.
Alexander Rice: So having this at twenty five Euros is uh quite attractive, I think.
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: I think
Lucas Murray: But
Alexander Rice: the
Lucas Murray: almo also the complexity between a phone and a remote control is not
Curtis Davis: Yeah.
Lucas Murray: cannot compare.
Curtis Davis: Yeah,
Alexander Rice: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: it's much more complex, but
Alexander Rice: So, I think, we can summarise. So we have seen the prototype. It's very nice according to the work of our two designer. The the the financial aspect were okay. We we have the cost below uh our threshold and so we could sell at twenty five Euros and make i make profit. The the evaluation give satisfying result as well. So I think we can move to the last part of the meeting. So the cost is in the budget, the evaluation is okay, so I th I think we can now uh open champagne and make a huge party.
Lucas Murray: Start
Alexander Rice: I
Lucas Murray: to
Alexander Rice: don't know if
Lucas Murray: eat banana.
Alexander Rice: it's provided by uh by the meeting staff.
Robert Glover: Mm-hmm.
Curtis Davis: Okay.
Alexander Rice: Okay so congratulation.
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Curtis Davis: Congratulations
Alexander Rice: Nice product.
Curtis Davis: to the team. Uh very well, we worked together fantastically.
Alexander Rice: Yeah. I think it was a good collaboration uh. Aspect.
Curtis Davis: So what does the management say?
Alexander Rice: Sorry?
Curtis Davis: What does the management say?
Alexander Rice: I think we will have um much bigger project next time and a much bigger salary as well.
Curtis Davis: Ah.
Alexander Rice: All it depends on who watch this meeting.
Lucas Murray: Yeah.
Alexander Rice: We don't know.
Curtis Davis: Yeah. Okay.
Alexander Rice: good guys,
Lucas Murray: Okay.
Alexander Rice: so see you for next uh successful project.
Lucas Murray: Yeah. Fruits.
Robert Glover: Mm 'kay.
Curtis Davis: Mm. | Alexander Rice presented the final cost of the remote with the finalized list of components. The final cost was under the alotted budget; Alexander Rice announced that the project could then continue with the current prototype. Robert Glover presented an evaluation of the prototype to the group. The group evaluated the prototype based on the requirements of users presented in the first meetings. The group decided that the prototype met enough of these goals to be able to market the product. The prototype was presented and the group discussed the look of the prototype. Alexander Rice summarized the accomplishments of the meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Ralph Mock: Okay. Good morning everybody.
Francisco Ames: Good morning.
Ralph Mock: Oh, everybody is not ready.
Blake Walters: Uh almost. Ready.
Ralph Mock: Alright. Okay, let's go. So, we're here today to to have our first kick-off meeting about uh this new project we're going to tak to talk about in a few minutes. Um so I will be uh Sebastian Ralph Mock. Um you are the
Blake Walters: I'm uh Michael. Blake Walters.
Ralph Mock: Okay.
Marcus Dolce: Hi I'm Guillermo. I'm Marcus Dolce.
Francisco Ames: And I am, Francisco Ames.
Ralph Mock: Okay, very good. Thanks for being here. Um so let's have a look to the the agenda. So, we are going to go through this agenda and mainly first to uh to make to to be used to the tools uh available in this nice and smart meeting room we have here. Um then we'll go to uh the plans for project and have general discussions about it. So, the goal of this project is to uh developed a new remote control. Um it should be original, trendy, and also user friendly. As usual we will follow the the project method um that we are using in the in our company. It is in three step as you know. First the functional design. The second's a conceptual design, and then the detailed design. During each step uh of each design we wi you will work uh s separately, individually on uh your specific tasks and will m we will meet to um to discuss and take decisions about uh what you've you've you did and what uh we will do next. So first, we have to to train ourself with all the um the tools availables in the in this nice meeting room and uh particularly the the white board so uh we are going to go through the white board and take some um s some notes or do some drawings. So who want to start?
Blake Walters: Ah well
Ralph Mock: Mister.
Blake Walters: if no one else wants to, yeah. Okay so, want Marcus Dolce to draw my favourite animal. Let's see.
Blake Walters: Well, I don't really have a favourite animal, but um uh
Ralph Mock: You have one in mind?
Blake Walters: I think I have one in mind, so uh I'm gonna about the uh spider because you can actually draw it pretty well in the corner of a white board. The spider has a spider lives in a web and uh it has eight legs, and uh it can move all about the web in two dimensions. Unless it's a three dimensional web which y they have sometimes. There are some spiders that live in like that have like uh kind of a a big ball of a of a web. And uh the other thing is some spiders can actually uh fly like uh they have uh they let out like uh a stream of like the web building material but it's it acts like a parachute so they can actually kind of go and find new uh build a new web somewhere else. So I think they did this in uh in Charlotte's Web that movie that little uh well it's actually a book first but uh um at the end all the the spiders kinda flew away. So,
Ralph Mock: Okay.
Blake Walters: that's
Ralph Mock: Th
Blake Walters: my animal.
Ralph Mock: thank you. Very interesting. Guillermo you want to?
Marcus Dolce: 'kay I dunno why, but when I was a child I I wanted to be a a panther not a pink panther,
Francisco Ames: But don't
Marcus Dolce: or
Francisco Ames: you
Marcus Dolce: maybe
Francisco Ames: think
Marcus Dolce: yes.
Francisco Ames: it's very difficult to draw a panther?
Marcus Dolce: Uh yeah yeah.
Francisco Ames: So bad
Ralph Mock: It
Francisco Ames: I don't like
Ralph Mock: would be
Francisco Ames: it.
Ralph Mock: very funny for us. Oh.
Marcus Dolce: Okay it's a friendly panther.
Blake Walters: Maybe it's happy 'cause it just ate someone.
Marcus Dolce: Yeah maybe. Um. Actually, honestly I I I dunno what's what's his it's be behaviour, I dunno if if it's the male who who hunts or it's the female uh, I I the female lions who who hunt, so but I like it because it's fast, and it's black as well, so it can he it can hide itself very easily and it's it's it looks like um powerful, strong, uh I dunno. I I watch a a film about a black panther when I was a child and I was in that age when everything was shocking Marcus Dolce a lot.
Ralph Mock: Okay. Thank
Marcus Dolce: Okay.
Ralph Mock: you. Hemant.
Francisco Ames: Um sure.
Blake Walters: So you don't like pink panthers?
Marcus Dolce: I like it.
Francisco Ames: Oh yeah. Thanks. This lapel is coming out once in a while. It's not very strong. Okay. So, not the favourite animal, but I think I'll draw elephant. I'll try to draw elephant. It's a problem. Okay, thanks. Okay so, elephant goes like this, it has four feet. I don't know whether there's any dist there should be any distance or not, but I think this is the easiest. And then we have it's trunk. And yep something like this. An eye, cute. Yeah, so
Ralph Mock: Poor elephant.
Francisco Ames: and sometimes they have a hump. It seems that uh elephants are pretty friendly and they they have one very important way a different way of walking. So when they walk, wherever they are going to put their first feet, the second feet will always be. When they'll come to that position the second, the third feet will be there. That's the way they walk. And that's very peculiar about them. None of the other animals walk like this. And they are very useful to human beings. At least few few hundred years ago when there was no means of transportations or something, or when they had to carry huge um loads from one place to another, elephants were very useful. And they are found in um usually the warm countries. And um they are the biggest terrestrial animal. That's what I know about them. So, that's what I wanted to tell about
Blake Walters: So
Francisco Ames: elephants.
Blake Walters: is this uh an Indian or an African elephant, 'cause you haven't drawn
Francisco Ames: There
Blake Walters: the
Francisco Ames: are
Blake Walters: ears?
Francisco Ames: two kind of uh yeah, they are very different, Indian and African elephants. So Indian elephant is having one bump, I think, and the African have two. And then there's a difference in the trunk of the animals, these elephants who are Indian and So at some for some elephants it's the trunk is having one Do we have some message there?
Ralph Mock: Yes. We have to I
Francisco Ames: Wind
Ralph Mock: have
Francisco Ames: up?
Ralph Mock: to catch you, sorry.
Francisco Ames: Okay,
Ralph Mock: We have to to
Francisco Ames: some
Ralph Mock: go through
Francisco Ames: other time.
Ralph Mock: the meeting.
Blake Walters: Okay.
Francisco Ames: Thank you.
Ralph Mock: Thank you.
Blake Walters: We can discuss that off-line.
Ralph Mock: Yeah we'll discuss a f a fly or do we'll do another meeting abo on
Francisco Ames: Thanks.
Ralph Mock: elephants. So so another important part of the project is about money, uh and about so about finances. So we should target selling price of twenty-five Euro for this remote control and uh we have um which which would generate a profit of of um fifty million Euros, okay. And we should target the inter an international market.
Blake Walters: So could I just ask one question, um is this a stand-alone unit that we're gonna be selling? So it's gonna be you already have a T_V_ but you're buying an extra remote control for it or something?
Ralph Mock: O this is the next topic we have to discuss exactly,
Blake Walters: Okay, alright.
Ralph Mock: so let's go to it. So um we should decide which kind of remote control we want to uh we want to uh we want to go. Should be should should it be um specific remote control to some specific device? Should it be a universal one? And uh etcetera. So um so I'm waiting for your for your inputs very quickly because we have only three three minutes to go.
Blake Walters: Okay well, so, it seems the the first thing that they've kinda specified is the price like based on how much profit we wanna make, which seems to a kind of a little strange if we don't know what the the product is yet, but I guess if that's if that's the requirement that we need to to design the the product to actually fit that that price bracket so, I guess we're gonna need to find out what's actually you know, what people ar are willing to pay for um what kind of product they're expecting for twenty-five Euro
Ralph Mock: Okay.
Blake Walters: because it seems quite a lot for a remote control, so
Ralph Mock: Okay
Blake Walters: it's
Ralph Mock: I think this is more a job to our
Francisco Ames: Marketing
Ralph Mock: market
Francisco Ames: person.
Blake Walters: Yeah.
Ralph Mock: person yeah.
Francisco Ames: Mm-hmm.
Ralph Mock: So it should be the topic of maybe of the next meeting just to to have an overview of this and uh in which direction we should go. So we need to close the meeting. Uh we'll have a new meeting soon and uh so the work every every of you ha have t d to do. So um you have to work on the on the working design, you have to uh work on the technical functions, and uh you have to work on us user requirements specs, alright?
Marcus Dolce: Yeah.
Ralph Mock: Um you will receive some information by emails, i as usual. Thanks for coming today.
Blake Walters: Okay.
Francisco Ames: Thanks.
Ralph Mock: Thanks.
Blake Walters: Alright. | Ralph Mock Sebastian opens the meeting. The rest introduce themselves, including Michael the interface designer, Guillermo Marcus Dolce, and Hemant Francisco Ames. Ralph Mock states the goal of the project, which is to develop a new remote control. It should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. He also mentions the three-step project- functional design, conceptual design, and detailed design. Then they take turns drawing their favorite animal on the white board. After that they briefly discuss finances. The remote control's target selling price of twenty-five Euro dollars and will be for the international market. They need to generate a profit of fifty million Euros. The question of whether the remote control should be for a specific device was brought up but not answered. Ralph Mock closes the meeting, telling each group member what he is responsible for and reminding them that they will receive more information by email. | 1 | amisum | test |
George Miller: Okay? Good afternoon. Hope
Armando Morrison: Afternoon.
George Miller: you have
Mark Hilburn: Hi.
George Miller: good lunch.
Armando Morrison: Yeah, we had falafel.
George Miller: Oh. Nice. And you?
Mark Hilburn: Uh, yes, I had something similar non-vegetarian.
George Miller: Okay. So today is um our third meeting. It will be about the conceptual design uh. If I come back to uh the minutes of the last meetings um. We decided not to go for speech recognition technologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on on the remote control because of costs. So maybe we wi be to clarify this question to today. Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point. So I hope uh that your respective pr presentations uh will help us. So each of you have some presentatio presentation to perform um who starts?
Jeffrey Testani: Okay,
George Miller: So marketing. So you are you saved your y your presentation somewhere?
Jeffrey Testani: Yep.
George Miller: So you're four?
Jeffrey Testani: Four yeah,
George Miller: Which is trend watch. Okay. Mr Marketing Experts.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah that's Jeffrey Testani.
George Miller: So
Jeffrey Testani: Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends?
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah?
George Miller: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: Okay. Okay. Well wha what I found um can you
George Miller: Next slide?
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking, but the most what they what they find more more interesting, more or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel. So now more more cool aspect, ma more a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things, a device which is pleasant to to watch, to see.
George Miller: Okay.
Jeffrey Testani: Uh also Well in in Euro in in Paris and and Milan the in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of uh of clothes, furniture and all this all this fashion it's it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.
George Miller: Mm.
Jeffrey Testani: And also in the in the U_S_A_ the the current the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge?
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: So maybe we should we should think in in this direction, so
Mark Hilburn: What what do you mean by fruit and vegetables and spongy? What
Armando Morrison: Spongy
Mark Hilburn: you mean
Armando Morrison: means
Mark Hilburn: clothe
Armando Morrison: it it's like
Jeffrey Testani: Fruit
Armando Morrison: sp
Jeffrey Testani: vegetables is the the new have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan?
Mark Hilburn: No, I missed that one.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah, I I didn't miss an I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit, there are many fr pictures of fruits and vegetables in the
Mark Hilburn: Oh,
Jeffrey Testani: clothes.
Mark Hilburn: they're okay so they're not like dressed as a carrot they just have
Jeffrey Testani: No no,
Mark Hilburn: like
Jeffrey Testani: not not yet, not
Mark Hilburn: pictures
Jeffrey Testani: yet.
Mark Hilburn: of fruit on,
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah,
Mark Hilburn: okay.
Jeffrey Testani: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: So
Jeffrey Testani: So
Mark Hilburn: we're not gonna
Jeffrey Testani: te
Mark Hilburn: have a remote
Jeffrey Testani: textu
Mark Hilburn: control
Jeffrey Testani: textures,
Mark Hilburn: in the shape of
Jeffrey Testani: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: of a banana, just
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: maybe
Jeffrey Testani: Vegetable textures and all this kind.
George Miller: Drawings of bananas.
Jeffrey Testani: Uh
Mark Hilburn: Okay and
George Miller: Uh-huh.
Jeffrey Testani: yeah, yeah.
Armando Morrison: But what's your suggestion how we can have some shape like that on the
George Miller: Well
Armando Morrison: remote?
George Miller: so this is in the next slide certainly.
Jeffrey Testani: Uh no no, it's not.
George Miller: It's not?
Jeffrey Testani: It's And
Mark Hilburn: which fruit are you thinking of
Jeffrey Testani: Um. I ha I haven't thought of any particular fruit, but the general aspect of the of the remote control may may could remind some kind of vegetable, some kind of instead of vegetable, some natur mm uh natural object or something.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: But yeah it it
George Miller: So maybe
Jeffrey Testani: depends
George Miller: you
Jeffrey Testani: on
George Miller: maybe
Jeffrey Testani: the
George Miller: you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.
Mark Hilburn: Oh, so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit, or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the
Armando Morrison: Means buttons are
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah
Armando Morrison: in the
Jeffrey Testani: maybe
Armando Morrison: shape
Jeffrey Testani: the
Armando Morrison: of
Jeffrey Testani: shape
Armando Morrison: fruits,
Jeffrey Testani: the shape
Armando Morrison: buttons are in the frape shape of fruits or something, apple, banana, something like that.
Jeffrey Testani: No, not n
George Miller: Apple for
Jeffrey Testani: not
George Miller: channel
Jeffrey Testani: not too
George Miller: one.
Jeffrey Testani: much focus, not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the
Mark Hilburn: So
Jeffrey Testani: trend
Mark Hilburn: something
Jeffrey Testani: but
Mark Hilburn: that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.
Jeffrey Testani: For instance, yeah. African or as an elephant?
Armando Morrison: That we can discuss afterwards.
Mark Hilburn: But okay, I'm
George Miller: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: not, I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though, maybe just to fashion gurus, like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner, but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic
Jeffrey Testani: Well
Mark Hilburn: a,
Jeffrey Testani: ma
Mark Hilburn: an
Jeffrey Testani: maybe
Mark Hilburn: orange is.
Jeffrey Testani: we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new
Mark Hilburn: To fruit?
Jeffrey Testani: devi new devices and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.
Mark Hilburn: But is it uh is fruit cool?
Jeffrey Testani: What?
George Miller: That's a question.
Jeffrey Testani: What?
Mark Hilburn: Is fruit cool?
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah? Uh Is the new trend of the
Mark Hilburn: Well I guess, you know, Apple has the iPod so, imagi just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product, doesn't mean fruit is cool.
Jeffrey Testani: No I think we we should think about a a shape with it a device with a shape of some
Mark Hilburn: Okay, but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know, you don't wanna pear or a
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: watermelon.
Jeffrey Testani: Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy
Mark Hilburn: Well,
Jeffrey Testani: to
Mark Hilburn: probably
Jeffrey Testani: use?
Mark Hilburn: the only thing is a banana
Armando Morrison: Banana.
Mark Hilburn: that I can think of, a cucumber.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: I
Jeffrey Testani: Or
Mark Hilburn: dunno.
Jeffrey Testani: m
George Miller: Maybe too long.
Mark Hilburn: Maybe. Too green.
Jeffrey Testani: Maybe.
Mark Hilburn: So, but
George Miller: A
Mark Hilburn: I mean you
George Miller: banana.
Mark Hilburn: also have to you have to also
Jeffrey Testani: Um
Mark Hilburn: have, fit r all the buttons and you know. It's, it
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons, they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.
Armando Morrison: I don't th it will
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah
Armando Morrison: be
Jeffrey Testani: but
Armando Morrison: rolling
Jeffrey Testani: I li
Armando Morrison: a lot.
Jeffrey Testani: I like your idea
George Miller: Okay.
Jeffrey Testani: that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons
George Miller: Yeah
Jeffrey Testani: b
George Miller: and
Jeffrey Testani: buttons
George Miller: you you
Jeffrey Testani: so
George Miller: you will not have pla enough a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros?
George Miller: Well,
Mark Hilburn: Well,
George Miller: you're
Mark Hilburn: this
George Miller: the
Mark Hilburn: is
George Miller: Marketing Expert you should tell us if it
Jeffrey Testani: I
George Miller: is too much
Jeffrey Testani: think
George Miller: or not.
Jeffrey Testani: Well, according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation, so,
George Miller: So
Jeffrey Testani: I will give more importance to the look and feel than rather than the
George Miller: So you you
Jeffrey Testani: new
George Miller: you suggest
Jeffrey Testani: inputs
George Miller: to go
Jeffrey Testani: and also
George Miller: f
Jeffrey Testani: it's I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection, you need more things, it's not just buying a new control re
George Miller: Okay.
Jeffrey Testani: remote, you need buying control remote, buying uh more
George Miller: S
Jeffrey Testani: things.
George Miller: so
Jeffrey Testani: It's
George Miller: you're simply
Jeffrey Testani: not so simple.
George Miller: you're simply looking s to a remote control that looks like a banana with
Jeffrey Testani: For instance,
George Miller: few buttons
Jeffrey Testani: yeah.
George Miller: with
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah
George Miller: only
Jeffrey Testani: for
George Miller: a few
Jeffrey Testani: for
George Miller: buttons.
Jeffrey Testani: for given an an example yeah.
George Miller: Okay good. So maybe you can go ahead?
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah no, it's what I already said.
George Miller: Okay. Thanks. Um. Okay, I'll give the floor. So you are User Interface guy.
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: So you're three?
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: And it's this one.
Mark Hilburn: Yep.
George Miller: Go for it.
Mark Hilburn: Yep. Okay. So. S next uh slide. Okay. So I received an email um around lunchtime letting Jeffrey Testani know that the brilliant minds at our technology division had developed an integrated programmable sample sensor sample speaker unit, um which is a way for you to have a conversation with your coffee machine and or remote control.
Armando Morrison: But it's just a
Mark Hilburn: It's no, what it is, it's
Armando Morrison: It's
Mark Hilburn: it's
Armando Morrison: not a
Mark Hilburn: very
Armando Morrison: microphone.
Mark Hilburn: It has a has a microphone, has a speaker, it's got a little chip and
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: it allows you
Armando Morrison: Actually
Mark Hilburn: t
Armando Morrison: I'm not reading microphone there, so that's why you can all have conversation,
Mark Hilburn: Well, it's
Armando Morrison: it
Mark Hilburn: a sample
Armando Morrison: just to speak to you.
Mark Hilburn: sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: that it can recognize, it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: and then can play back a
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: phrase in response to that.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase.
Armando Morrison: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: So, I mean, you know, I guess you could build that in, you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: the remote
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: control.
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: But basically the thing is, we have this technology available
Armando Morrison: In-house.
Mark Hilburn: in-house. So,
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: um but the thing is obviously there's still gonna be a cost if you
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: decided to integrate that because
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: you still have to pay for the c production of the components, so um it it but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: Whilst you know, some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it,
George Miller: I there's something that I unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords speech keywords?
Mark Hilburn: It's it it's no, well, it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords, but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh, for a certain phrase, you say the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is, you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning,
George Miller: And
Mark Hilburn: how
George Miller: it's
Mark Hilburn: would
George Miller: just
Mark Hilburn: you like
George Miller: to,
Mark Hilburn: your coffee?
George Miller: it's just to playback something?
Mark Hilburn: Yeah. So actually that was a bad example, 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response,
George Miller: Yeah
Mark Hilburn: so.
George Miller: yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.
Mark Hilburn: Only, like, only in the sense that it it can recognize a set
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: a set target
George Miller: This
Mark Hilburn: kind
George Miller: is just
Mark Hilburn: of word
George Miller: more
Mark Hilburn: an
George Miller: like a poi
Mark Hilburn: It's designed
George Miller: pois
Mark Hilburn: it's
George Miller: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: designed as a fun kind of thing,
George Miller: Yeah
Mark Hilburn: but I guess
George Miller: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh
George Miller: So
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah but
George Miller: it it's c uh it it it
Jeffrey Testani: you
George Miller: is
Jeffrey Testani: can
George Miller: a
Jeffrey Testani: u
George Miller: uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to we can bring to the remote control that will not have any
Mark Hilburn: Completely
George Miller: uh
Mark Hilburn: pointless yeah.
George Miller: yeah comp completely pointless
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: for the inter for from the interaction point of v point of view.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, unless you know, you like having conversation with your remote control.
George Miller: Okay.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah but the can we use it for saying okay, channel fifty,
Mark Hilburn: Well
Jeffrey Testani: channel
Mark Hilburn: yeah, that's the
Jeffrey Testani: twenty?
Mark Hilburn: thing, if you can but you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination, you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen, that whole thing, not just the word channel and the
George Miller: Yeah
Mark Hilburn: word fifteen, it doesn't
George Miller: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: have that
George Miller: So
Mark Hilburn: kind of logic
George Miller: this is
Mark Hilburn: in it.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: so this
Mark Hilburn: So
George Miller: is this is much more than tak taking this technology, bringing it to the remote control and using it. So this is out of discussion.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: So if if if it is something that you can we can bring easily and to put it into the banana remote control
Jeffrey Testani: M Mando.
Mark Hilburn: Banana-mando.
George Miller: No this is mm banana-bando,
Jeffrey Testani: Banana-mando
Mark Hilburn: Banana-man
Jeffrey Testani: yeah.
George Miller: yeah. Uh then it could be cool yeah.
Armando Morrison: Yeah okay, let's go ahead.
George Miller: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: I uh I I I don't think it's worth it though, I think it doesn't really add much to the functional design and it's it's it's not mature enough to use as a speech recognition engine,
George Miller: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: so Um, yeah. So if we can just move on to the next slide, I've just done a quick mock-up of uh uh some of the features of our potential funky-looking uh
George Miller: It doesn't
Mark Hilburn: remote
George Miller: look like
Mark Hilburn: control
George Miller: a banana at all.
Mark Hilburn: Well, you see, I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus,
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: um, so
George Miller: But
Mark Hilburn: at the
George Miller: you
Mark Hilburn: moment
Jeffrey Testani: Looks
Mark Hilburn: it's more
Jeffrey Testani: like
George Miller: you
Jeffrey Testani: a
Mark Hilburn: of
George Miller: can
Jeffrey Testani: tr
Mark Hilburn: a
George Miller: fit
Mark Hilburn: box
George Miller: i
Mark Hilburn: focus.
Jeffrey Testani: look likes
George Miller: you're saying
Jeffrey Testani: a
George Miller: now you can
Jeffrey Testani: a tro
George Miller: fit
Jeffrey Testani: a
George Miller: it
Jeffrey Testani: tropical
George Miller: to
Jeffrey Testani: fruit.
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, well, this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes. But um, I've just indicated here, we could have actually two scroll wheels, 'cause I think the scroll wheel is a fairly um
Armando Morrison: Stable
Mark Hilburn: key part
Armando Morrison: thing, that's
Mark Hilburn: of,
Armando Morrison: right.
Mark Hilburn: you know, I think
Armando Morrison: To
Mark Hilburn: everyone
Armando Morrison: have,
Mark Hilburn: has has agreed that it's that it could
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: be quite a useful um
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: thing, so. But I think it's important, you know, to have two scroll wheels because, you know, you want one for for the channel, but you also want one for for the volume,
George Miller: Mm.
Mark Hilburn: because it's it's the volume i it's, you know it's very handy for it to have uh instant kind
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: of uh feedback
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: uh and response, so. But um, I've also included this turbo button because I think, you know, every design should have a turbo button,
Jeffrey Testani: What's a turbo
Mark Hilburn: and
Jeffrey Testani: button?
Mark Hilburn: well so this is you know, a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television, the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll, so you know, the th the person might want to have a uh Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them, in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then, you know, displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it, even if it lags behind what they're doing.
Jeffrey Testani: It con it controls the speed?
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, so with this turbo button you can, say, skip over t channels if uh, you know, if I'm if I'm going if I'm scrolling past them and you know, it's um, you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever. So yeah, that's um, those are the two important uh features I think
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: we need on the remote, but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need, um. You know, i it could be, you know, if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device, I mean, we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very, if it's gonna be a banana, you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality, it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a
George Miller: It's enough.
Mark Hilburn: banana and it's still very it may even be for most for some people more functional than their current remote, but if they have these scroll wheels, so, um you know, what other buttons do we want?
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: I mean we could have well, I guess you need an on and off
George Miller: Switch
Mark Hilburn: switch,
George Miller: on.
Mark Hilburn: but you could
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe, you know, it's kind of
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: like a spy
Jeffrey Testani: So
Mark Hilburn: kind of flick thing.
Jeffrey Testani: sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.
Mark Hilburn: That's why you're a marketing
George Miller: Okay.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah,
Mark Hilburn: guru.
George Miller: So
Jeffrey Testani: of course.
George Miller: i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.
Mark Hilburn: Well, that's the thing, as have we decided that we can only spend, uh, twenty five Euro?
George Miller: I think
Mark Hilburn: Well not spend,
George Miller: that
Mark Hilburn: but you know, charge twenty five Euro.
Jeffrey Testani: I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.
George Miller: No we can we can't use that.
Jeffrey Testani: You we can?
George Miller: We
Jeffrey Testani: We
George Miller: can't
Jeffrey Testani: can't.
George Miller: use that to
Armando Morrison: Communicate.
George Miller: to comman co communicate, it's just
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah,
George Miller: a
Jeffrey Testani: but
George Miller: thing
Jeffrey Testani: we can say
Armando Morrison: It's one
Jeffrey Testani: channel
Armando Morrison: way.
Jeffrey Testani: twenty five.
George Miller: No.
Jeffrey Testani: No?
Mark Hilburn: But then you have to have a template for every channel, for a hundred channels, you have to be able to to recognize
Jeffrey Testani: It's
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: not a lot one
Mark Hilburn: Mm.
Jeffrey Testani: hundred templates, it's
Mark Hilburn: Well,
Jeffrey Testani: not
Mark Hilburn: I f I think it's probably more than, than our can handle because
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: it's designed for a coffee machine, you know, to say hello in the morning.
Jeffrey Testani: Ah, it's designed for a cof okay. Is it design for a coffee machine?
Mark Hilburn: Well that's its current application, I would presume
Jeffrey Testani: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: that it's kind of, they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: th so.
Jeffrey Testani: Maybe you could ask your the you could ask the engineering department
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: if
George Miller: A
Jeffrey Testani: we
George Miller: good
Jeffrey Testani: can
George Miller: good good
Mark Hilburn: But
George Miller: thing. You
Mark Hilburn: uh
George Miller: want to g to move
Armando Morrison: Yeah,
George Miller: to your
Armando Morrison: that's right,
George Miller: slides?
Armando Morrison: yeah.
George Miller: You're finished?
Mark Hilburn: Well I just I just made the point, I don't I don't know if that speech recognition is, you know, even if we can do it, I think it's not really appropriate for uh
George Miller: Yeah I think so.
Mark Hilburn: television environment. But um I did have one thing from a previous meeting, you were talking about um
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: being able to find the remote control and I was talking about extendin being able to extend the remote control by having you know, a base station that can control other things as well.
George Miller: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: It might be useful to have some kind of base station, even if it's just you press on a button on it and uh and the remote control starts beeping, you know, this is a way of finding the remote. Y in that
George Miller: Mm.
Mark Hilburn: case maybe the maybe the speech recognition the speech thing could be useful just to say
George Miller: Exactly yeah.
Mark Hilburn: I'm here but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a
Armando Morrison: So it's a
Mark Hilburn: a
Armando Morrison: speech
Mark Hilburn: beeping
Armando Morrison: synthesis kind of thing, something has
Mark Hilburn: It's
Armando Morrison: been uh stored
Mark Hilburn: speech
Armando Morrison: and it's just uh spoken out.
Mark Hilburn: It's it's speech synthesis and s
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: it's speech kind of, not really speech recognition, but
Armando Morrison: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: kind of pattern
Armando Morrison: That's right.
Mark Hilburn: matching, yeah
George Miller: Oh, good idea.
Mark Hilburn: yeah.
George Miller: Very good. Okay, let's move on. So you're two?
Armando Morrison: That's right.
George Miller: Okay.
Armando Morrison: So this is going to be about the component design.
George Miller: Mm-hmm.
Armando Morrison: So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies, one is the usual batteries which are there, they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells, when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces, there should be some flexibility in t
Mark Hilburn: I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.
George Miller: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: Yeah. So there should we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.
Mark Hilburn: So, just one second, when you say double curve, what do you actually mean? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the, on the whiteboard
Armando Morrison: Double
Mark Hilburn: 'cause I'm
Armando Morrison: curve
Mark Hilburn: not sure
Armando Morrison: is, you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing, whatever it is.
Mark Hilburn: Okay, but like,
Armando Morrison: So,
Mark Hilburn: kind of convex
Armando Morrison: it could
Mark Hilburn: or concave?
Armando Morrison: be curve, so it could be convex, conve concave, depending on
Mark Hilburn: Mm-hmm.
Armando Morrison: what what we want.
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: So there are flats, there are single curve and there are double curves.
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: These are the three things, and there are different materials, with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood, titanium and all those things, but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one,
George Miller: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: it'll bring the cost down and anyway it's
Mark Hilburn: Although, you know, wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option, if you take like, nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you
George Miller: Mm
Mark Hilburn: kind of put
George Miller: but
Mark Hilburn: some,
George Miller: i
Mark Hilburn: some
George Miller: but
Mark Hilburn: varnish
George Miller: there is
Mark Hilburn: on.
George Miller: no elasticity which
Armando Morrison: Wooden
George Miller: could
Armando Morrison: cases
George Miller: be
Mark Hilburn: Well it depends, I mean, you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being
George Miller: Yeah
Mark Hilburn: broken,
George Miller: but the
Mark Hilburn: it's
George Miller: components
Mark Hilburn: the inside.
George Miller: inside.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah but inside you know you could have you can still have some kind of cushioning that's
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: not visible to the to the user.
George Miller: Very
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: too expensive to do.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: And I mean you
George Miller: And
Mark Hilburn: could
George Miller: also
Mark Hilburn: also,
George Miller: uh
Mark Hilburn: you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.
George Miller: Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.
Mark Hilburn: That's true, but are we set on the banana idea?
Jeffrey Testani: Actually
George Miller: Well it look like it
Jeffrey Testani: I was
George Miller: looks
Jeffrey Testani: thinking
George Miller: like you
Jeffrey Testani: that
George Miller: are all
Jeffrey Testani: the
George Miller: targeting that yeah?
Jeffrey Testani: the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.
George Miller: Yes it is.
Jeffrey Testani: Uh I don't know the name o o in English uh
Armando Morrison: Is it
Jeffrey Testani: This
Armando Morrison: an e
Jeffrey Testani: it's
Armando Morrison: apple
Jeffrey Testani: not a
Armando Morrison: which
Jeffrey Testani: fruit
Armando Morrison: has
Jeffrey Testani: it's a vegetable.
Mark Hilburn: It's like a pumpkin or
George Miller: Yeah? Pumpkin.
Jeffrey Testani: Green.
Mark Hilburn: Green.
George Miller: Green. Um um um, yes I see.
Mark Hilburn: What does it taste
Jeffrey Testani: And you
Mark Hilburn: like?
Jeffrey Testani: put in the salad.
George Miller: Pep pepperoni.
Jeffrey Testani: Um
Mark Hilburn: Ah yeah, is it what's it in French?
George Miller: Poivron.
Jeffrey Testani: Oui c'est ca
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, okay, so capsicum or pepper.
George Miller: Uh pepper.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Pepper.
George Miller: But um they do
Jeffrey Testani: And it's
George Miller: d
Jeffrey Testani: al it also suits with the double curve for
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: easy of
Mark Hilburn: I don't know, it seems a little bit kind of bulky to Jeffrey Testani,
Jeffrey Testani: No,
Mark Hilburn: like
Jeffrey Testani: I
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: mean in a
George Miller: It's not re
Mark Hilburn: like
George Miller: it
Mark Hilburn: with
George Miller: you
Mark Hilburn: a banana
George Miller: you
Mark Hilburn: you
George Miller: think
Mark Hilburn: can
George Miller: it's
Mark Hilburn: have
George Miller: really fancy and fun? You think that young people
Jeffrey Testani: I'm sure
George Miller: that are
Jeffrey Testani: it's fun.
George Miller: Yeah. More than a banana?
Jeffrey Testani: But banana is not so handy,
Armando Morrison: Banana
Mark Hilburn: Well
Jeffrey Testani: I think
Armando Morrison: is
Jeffrey Testani: that's
Armando Morrison: more
Jeffrey Testani: handier.
Armando Morrison: handier as compared to this I think, and to capsicum.
Mark Hilburn: But like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top and
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: just roll it back and forth like
George Miller: It's
Mark Hilburn: that,
George Miller: kind
Mark Hilburn: but with
George Miller: it's
Mark Hilburn: uh
George Miller: kind of
Mark Hilburn: I
George Miller: it's
Mark Hilburn: don't
George Miller: more
Mark Hilburn: know how you would hold
George Miller: uh
Mark Hilburn: a capsicum and
George Miller: it's really ergonomic, it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to to put the controls. Okay let's move
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah
George Miller: on.
Jeffrey Testani: you're right.
George Miller: So time is running, let's move on.
Armando Morrison: Okay, so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated, just and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection, volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.
George Miller: Okay.
Armando Morrison: Yeah, we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips, one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us, that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support, so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.
Mark Hilburn: So is that, when you say speaker support, you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind
Armando Morrison: It
Mark Hilburn: of
Armando Morrison: could be a beep kind of thing.
Mark Hilburn: Okay, but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way, or is just
Armando Morrison: Yes,
Mark Hilburn: the the
Armando Morrison: yes,
Mark Hilburn: signal?
Armando Morrison: that's
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: right, it's it's onto the chip, most most probably, not
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: not hundred per cent sure about
Mark Hilburn: So
Armando Morrison: that.
Mark Hilburn: are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana?
Armando Morrison: That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be whatever will be the case,
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: the chip is always going to be sitting inside.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, but the speaker, if the speaker is actually on the chip,
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: then if it's too far away from the the casing, or if the casing is too thick, then you may not hear the
Armando Morrison: Uh,
Mark Hilburn: the speaker.
Armando Morrison: so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: As or as hearing is concerned, we can have some gap at some place,
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: so
Mark Hilburn: So
Armando Morrison: that
Mark Hilburn: that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the
Armando Morrison: That's right.
Mark Hilburn: the speaker close enough to the outside.
Armando Morrison: Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web, that user wants to have control more than one device wants to control more than one device from the same remote control, so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_, because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything, so with
Mark Hilburn: Although,
Armando Morrison: this additional
Mark Hilburn: if
Armando Morrison: little, we might be having slightly better market for us.
Mark Hilburn: It depends, if we like, if we are concentrating on like a fruit design, then maybe
Armando Morrison: Mm.
Mark Hilburn: maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit,
Armando Morrison: Of fruits.
Mark Hilburn: you know, like a different fruit for each device.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
Mark Hilburn: Cause that, you know, that sometimes people like to collect um
Armando Morrison: Remotes
George Miller: S objects.
Mark Hilburn: you know
Armando Morrison: objects,
Mark Hilburn: things that
Armando Morrison: okay.
Mark Hilburn: of a similar
George Miller: Crazy objects.
Jeffrey Testani: I think that would
Mark Hilburn: type.
Jeffrey Testani: be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.
Mark Hilburn: Well, you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the
Jeffrey Testani: No
Mark Hilburn: first
Jeffrey Testani: but
Mark Hilburn: place.
Jeffrey Testani: I think just one fruit to control everything.
Mark Hilburn: Like a power fruit.
Jeffrey Testani: A power fr a power M a Mando, a Supermando fruit.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: Okay.
Armando Morrison: s and we should have it on the remote.
Jeffrey Testani: Actually
Mark Hilburn: Well
George Miller: Okay,
Jeffrey Testani: I
George Miller: good.
Jeffrey Testani: I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control.
Armando Morrison: So you're having a basis station. Okay. Your usually your remote sits on that. So you and it's that's why it can have chargeable batteries. Now let's
Jeffrey Testani: So
Armando Morrison: say
Jeffrey Testani: you you have to buy two things, the banana and the basis
George Miller: Bu
Jeffrey Testani: station.
George Miller: it's
Armando Morrison: Basis station
George Miller: it's.
Armando Morrison: is with the thing.
George Miller: You s you you thing.
Armando Morrison: It's like a telephone handset is there and the basis station for the telephone hand set is there. So now what user gets additionally he doesn't have to buy batteries, they're rechargeable batteries, so over the period of cor time he'll recover the cost. So you're having the basis station and there is a button, if you press that button wherever the remote it'll start beeping so you know where the remote is.
Mark Hilburn: I
Armando Morrison: Uh
Mark Hilburn: think that's a pretty handy feature.
George Miller: Yeah.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: I think it's kind of people would find that worth it even if it wasn't uh a recharging station, even
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: if they didn't
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm,
Mark Hilburn: have to buy extra batteries, you know.
Armando Morrison: mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah but
Mark Hilburn: So
Jeffrey Testani: I'm a bit worried about the budget.
Armando Morrison: Uh this is basis station is nothing more, just it's a wire which is coming from the main cable
George Miller: Mm-hmm.
Armando Morrison: and uh you're having one socket on which the thing sits.
Mark Hilburn: Although you do need to include R_F_ kind of
Armando Morrison: That's right.
Mark Hilburn: circuitry in
Armando Morrison: But
Mark Hilburn: the remote.
Armando Morrison: all these things are usually in-house so we don't have much problems. So component cost is going to be the least. Anyway, we are not using really advanced technology, L_C_D_ has already been ruled out, A_S_R_ has been ruled out. So it's the basic thing but very trendy and very user-friendly.
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: And
Mark Hilburn: I'm just wondering actually, 'cause, you know, I this whole fruit thing with the banana, it's um it seemed like it first seems a bit kind of uh niche, like only a few people would really want a banana, but what if it was kind of uh a stylised banana? You know, rather than having it kind of you know yellow and really looking exactly like a banana, you could make it kind of silver. And um, you know to give you kind of the idea of a banana but without it looking you know completely kitsch. For better want of a better word you know?
George Miller: You
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: think that yellow it's kitsch.
Mark Hilburn: Well, you know, I don
George Miller: If
Mark Hilburn: I don't
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: know how
George Miller: you
Mark Hilburn: many
George Miller: make
Mark Hilburn: peop
George Miller: something that looks like a banana it should
Jeffrey Testani: No,
George Miller: have
Jeffrey Testani: I
George Miller: the
Jeffrey Testani: I
George Miller: colour of a banana.
Armando Morrison: A yeah, otherwise
Mark Hilburn: Well
Armando Morrison: it'll be
Mark Hilburn: they
Armando Morrison: mis
George Miller: O otherwise
Armando Morrison: means you don't get
Jeffrey Testani: Maybe
Armando Morrison: b any feeling
Jeffrey Testani: li like
Armando Morrison: then.
Jeffrey Testani: that.
Armando Morrison: It's neither a
Mark Hilburn: Yeah,
Armando Morrison: banana
Mark Hilburn: like this
Armando Morrison: nor
Mark Hilburn: colour
Armando Morrison: a
Mark Hilburn: this colour Maybe, you know, maybe like still in the shape of a banana.
George Miller: Roughly.
Mark Hilburn: No, exactly. Exactly. Um, but you know, just maybe maybe not exactly the same texture as a banana and just kind of, you know because the thing is it's gonna be a little bit difficult to make um to give like the texture of a banana anyway and to k to have the exact shape. I think if you're gonna not be able to do it properly you may as well do it in a stylised way that just looks a bit more kind of, you know, twenty first century rather than
George Miller: Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: sixties or seventies.
George Miller: Okay.
Armando Morrison: And
George Miller: Let's
Armando Morrison: uh
George Miller: move on. Uh
Armando Morrison: going to
George Miller: uh
Armando Morrison: the last slide.
George Miller: yeah. the meeting I'd like to to draw some sketch about the pro future prot prototype.
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: Go for it.
Armando Morrison: Okay.
George Miller: Well no, not not you, you can finish
Armando Morrison: Okay.
George Miller: your slides
Armando Morrison: Okay,
George Miller: before
Armando Morrison: so. Anyway, users'll be so the findings is users'll be very interested in our locator device to find their misplaced
George Miller: Mm
Armando Morrison: remotes.
George Miller: okay.
Armando Morrison: So that was very I thought it's a very good suggestion by everybody.
George Miller: Okay.
Armando Morrison: That's it.
George Miller: That's all?
Armando Morrison: Yep.
George Miller: Okay, so mm so well done for the presentations. So we need to take some de decisions about um about what we're going to do. So I I propose that you go to the whiteboard
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: and we're going to report all the ideas we had we had during this these presentations just to draw some sketch about
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: what will be the prod final product and uh where Superman go banana and uh uh extra
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: func functionalities such as wheels, um the speaker unit um well not in order not to lost the um the device, I do I don't remember you
Armando Morrison: That's
George Miller: call
Armando Morrison: right.
George Miller: it?
Armando Morrison: The basis station.
George Miller: Basis
Armando Morrison: That's
George Miller: station, yeah.
Armando Morrison: right.
George Miller: Uh so um so we're going for a stylish banana shape.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, so, I guess you wanna hold like the way the end of the banana you wanna kind of hold as ma you maybe wanna kinda hold like a gun rather than 'cause you don't want it to point kind of
George Miller: Yeah,
Mark Hilburn: towards the floor.
George Miller: right.
Mark Hilburn: So you know, so if you have like
Jeffrey Testani: What about what about this shape? More or less.
George Miller: We
Armando Morrison: There's less space on this to put with the buttons.
George Miller: I if it
Jeffrey Testani: Yeah,
George Miller: i
Jeffrey Testani: but
George Miller: if it has
Jeffrey Testani: how
George Miller: really
Jeffrey Testani: many
George Miller: the
Jeffrey Testani: buttons
George Miller: model
Jeffrey Testani: do
George Miller: shape
Jeffrey Testani: we need?
George Miller: of a bana you could the the starting is good but it could it should have more the shape of a banana if you want to point really a at the thing. If you don't want to to to do that movement which is which is difficult if you don't have to do it in fact, it's better.
Armando Morrison: Uh
George Miller: So
Armando Morrison: what about
George Miller: ti
Armando Morrison: a
George Miller: time is running, we have to we have to we have to to move forward. So let's skip to uh this uh this this this idea. Yeah.
Mark Hilburn: Okay, so
George Miller: So
Mark Hilburn: So
George Miller: we have this. We have a a basis um, how do you call it?
Armando Morrison: The base station.
George Miller: A base station.
Armando Morrison: Right.
George Miller: We'll have a base station extra uh on the side.
Mark Hilburn: okay, so I guess we need, you know, something that can fit a banana shaped object.
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: Yeah.
George Miller: Uh, we have a R_F_ for um for beeping
Armando Morrison: That's right, yeah,
George Miller: for beeping.
Armando Morrison: we need that, yeah.
George Miller: We need b R_F_ to
Mark Hilburn: Okay,
George Miller: beep.
Mark Hilburn: so it's
George Miller: So
Mark Hilburn: uh
George Miller: we that means we need a button on th on the on the basis.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: Basis station.
George Miller: Basis station,
Armando Morrison: Yeah,
George Miller: thank you.
Armando Morrison: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: Alright, so we need uh okay.
George Miller: Can
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: you go quickly please? Okay. So we are going to add uh also um you as you suggested the whee some wheels to control the volumes and channels
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: and your tur turbo turbo uh
Mark Hilburn: Yeah,
George Miller: button.
Armando Morrison: Turbo
Mark Hilburn: which
Armando Morrison: button.
Mark Hilburn: I think it's it's probably best actually on the on the underneath of the
George Miller: Yeah, on the
Mark Hilburn: the
George Miller: th
Mark Hilburn: device, so you have
George Miller: yeah, maybe here. And
Mark Hilburn: Yes.
George Miller: the and the wheel a a at the level of the thumb for instance.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, so you have the thumb kind of here.
George Miller: And and you have two wheels.
Mark Hilburn: So yeah, you need one one here and one on on the other side,
George Miller: Okay right.
Mark Hilburn: so you got volume an and channel.
George Miller: Good.
Mark Hilburn: And,
George Miller: So
Mark Hilburn: uh
George Miller: no L_C_D_.
Mark Hilburn: No L_C_D_.
George Miller: Okay great. Um. Very good.
Armando Morrison: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: Oh we need a we need a power um on off switch as well.
George Miller: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: Uh for the remote?
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: Oh, just
Armando Morrison: Remotes
George Miller: the switch,
Armando Morrison: don't
George Miller: no f
Armando Morrison: have power
George Miller: not for
Armando Morrison: on
George Miller: the
Armando Morrison: off
George Miller: T_V_
Armando Morrison: switch.
George Miller: for the T_V_.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah.
George Miller: Uh
Armando Morrison: Okay.
George Miller: so
Armando Morrison: S
George Miller: you
Armando Morrison: no, that'll be controlled by the
Jeffrey Testani: What
Armando Morrison: those buttons'll be
Jeffrey Testani: a
Armando Morrison: there already, yeah.
Mark Hilburn: Where?
Armando Morrison: Means on
George Miller: On the
Armando Morrison: the
George Miller: side.
Armando Morrison: remote. Because
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: remote is going to have both the interfaces, scroll as well as buttons. They are not going to cost you much, everything is in-house and now you don't want the traditional users to be apprehensive of this.
Mark Hilburn: Well, I dunno if the traditional user is gonna buy a a banana remote
Armando Morrison: Oh,
Mark Hilburn: in the
Armando Morrison: yeah.
Mark Hilburn: first place, you
Armando Morrison: That's
Mark Hilburn: know.
Armando Morrison: that's another issue which
Mark Hilburn: Y
Armando Morrison: I
Mark Hilburn: I mean
Armando Morrison: didn't think of.
Mark Hilburn: you need to kind of keep it um
Armando Morrison: But you know our targets are very high, means fifty million Euros is the profit which we want
Jeffrey Testani: What
Armando Morrison: make.
Jeffrey Testani: about
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, how many of these did we wanna sell? I can't remember,
Armando Morrison: Twenty
Mark Hilburn: what was
Armando Morrison: five. Twelve point
George Miller: Twenty
Armando Morrison: five
George Miller: five.
Armando Morrison: is the profit on one.
Mark Hilburn: Yeah, but how many units did we need to to sell?
Armando Morrison: Uh forty th four.
Jeffrey Testani: Four
Armando Morrison: Point
Jeffrey Testani: millions?
Armando Morrison: point four million?
Mark Hilburn: Four point four million.
Armando Morrison: Point four million.
Mark Hilburn: That's a lot of fruit.
George Miller: Yeah.
Armando Morrison: In the market.
Jeffrey Testani: What about
George Miller: So.
Jeffrey Testani: a
George Miller: Well. No. Time is running, we have to close the meeting in a few
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: minutes. So, okay, the next step, you can come back to your
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: seat. The next step is to go for to f is to go to uh to building a prototype, based on this, okay?
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
George Miller: So next meeting you guys have to prepare the followi things. You have to uh work on the look and feel uh design and you have to work on the user interface, in fact you two you have to work together
Armando Morrison: Mm-hmm.
George Miller: to model the first uh f first prototype. Uh Marketing Expert uh have to go to product evaluation. Okay?
Jeffrey Testani: I wo what about adding the this word spotting, keyword spotting recognition saying volume up volume down?
George Miller: It's too difficult.
Jeffrey Testani: It's too difficult but people like innovation and that's really uh innovative and I don't know if it would cost a lot, just a few five words.
George Miller: It's not a possi it will not be possible to implement it for the next prototype, so t it's in the next prototype so
Mark Hilburn: Uh.
George Miller: let's skip it.
Jeffrey Testani: Okay.
Armando Morrison: For the future prototypes.
George Miller: Yeah, maybe, for the n if if
Mark Hilburn: That can be
George Miller: if
Mark Hilburn: the t
George Miller: it it works well, we'll go for
Mark Hilburn: That can
George Miller: uh
Mark Hilburn: be
George Miller: an
Mark Hilburn: like
George Miller: orange
Mark Hilburn: the turbo
George Miller: one.
Mark Hilburn: banana plus plus
George Miller: Yeah
Jeffrey Testani: Plus
Mark Hilburn: commando.
Jeffrey Testani: plus, okay.
George Miller: yeah, honour the fruit.
Jeffrey Testani: Maybe objective banana?
George Miller: Okay. Thanks very much. We'll see n next meeting. Bye.
Armando Morrison: So meeting's
Mark Hilburn: Okay.
Armando Morrison: over?
Mark Hilburn: Yep.
Armando Morrison: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: We have to go design
Armando Morrison: Okay.
Mark Hilburn: the prototype.
Armando Morrison: Okay. Thank you.
George Miller: Thank you.
Jeffrey Testani: Thank you.
Armando Morrison: The problem is after all this meeting there is | George Miller opens the meeting, stating that it is about conceptual design. He restates the last meeting's descision that they will not do speech recognition technology but says they still have to decide whether to use an LCD screen. Then they move on to the three presentations. Jeffrey Testani is first to present, and he talks about making a pleasant-looking device, particularly one that favors current trends. They then begin talking about using a fruit, vegetable, or natural object as the shape of the remote, the logo, or for the buttons. Eventually they decide to make the device the shape of a banana. Next, the user interface specialist presents. He annouces that the technology division of their company has developed an integrated programmeable sample speaker unit, which would allow a person to have a conversation with the remote control. They have the option of using that technology. He shows them his plan what the remote control could look like and the features it might have. He suggests putting two scroll wheels- one for changing the channel and another for the volume. He also included a turbo button for speed, which he thinks every design should have. Since they can only charge twenty-five euro they decide to eliminate the LCD screen idea. After that the interface specialist talks about having a base station for the purpose of finding the remote control when lost. The user could simply press a button on the base station and the remote control would start beeping. Lastly, Armando Morrison presents, discussing the power source of the remote control. He suggests that they could have one of two kinds of power supplies- the usual batteries or rechargable ones if there is to be a base station and they could place solar cells on top for times when the lighting is good. He talks about using plastic with elasticity so that the remote would not break into pieces if it fell, which relates to their earlier discussion about giving it a spongy design. Plastic is also less costly than other options of wood or titanum. In addition, he talks about giving the control a double curve, curves on both the sides so that it is easy to hold and handle. They do not yet seem set about the idea of making it a banana shape, and one group member feels that the shape is not handy. The industrial desiger tells them they will use a regular chip rather than the advanced one since pricing is a factor. They agree on having base station with the remote. They go on to have discussion, with one member suggesting that they make the banana more stylized so that it looks less like a banana- for example, it could be silver. After that George Miller has them discuss/reiterate the decisions made during the meeting: no LCD screen, the remote will have a base station, a RF for beeping, a button on the base station to press, possibly a stylish banana-shape for the control, 2 scroll wheels to control the volume and channels at the thumb level, a turbo button perhaps underneath the device, on/off button for the TV. | 1 | amisum | test |
Robert Jobe: Okay. Good afternoon again. So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of detail design of the of the remote Um So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two, sounds interesting. And we'll have um presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. we'll to finance evaluation the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro. Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting. So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_, no speech recognition technology, okay, we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons. And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let this uh wonderful thing.
Christian Medina: Okay so we can go to the slides.
Robert Jobe: Oh yeah. Sorry.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Um.
Christian Medina: Number three. Oh number two sorry.
Robert Jobe: Which is
Christian Medina: So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead.
Homer Foley: Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow well to make a banana
Robert Jobe: Yeah can you show it to the the
Homer Foley: remote
Robert Jobe: camera maybe.
Homer Foley: okay so we actually have a
Christian Medina: You can pull it out first,
Homer Foley: We've
Christian Medina: maybe.
Homer Foley: well first first of all we made a an attractive base station uh with a banana leaf uh
Robert Jobe: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: look and feel um and uh bana sit the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself, it's kind of it's it's ergonomic, it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've the two uh uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally.
Robert Jobe: What's the use uh of the t turbo button already?
Homer Foley: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you
Robert Jobe: Ah yeah yeah
Homer Foley: quickly
Robert Jobe: an then you
Homer Foley: rather
Robert Jobe: stop
Homer Foley: th
Robert Jobe: when you stop it stops.
Homer Foley: Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But
Christian Medina: Uh
Homer Foley: normally with uh it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see
Robert Jobe: Uh-huh.
Homer Foley: the
Christian Medina: And
Homer Foley: the
Christian Medina: we
Homer Foley: picture.
Christian Medina: we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button, so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_.
Homer Foley: The T_V_ yeah.
Robert Jobe: Which one?
Homer Foley: The s the
Christian Medina: The
Homer Foley: turbo
Christian Medina: turbo button.
Homer Foley: button. So
Robert Jobe: Okay.
Homer Foley: rather than having uh
Christian Medina: Additional
Homer Foley: an extra
Christian Medina: button.
Homer Foley: button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button.
Johnny Bohne: What this button for?
Homer Foley: This is a teletext button.
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Homer Foley: So once you press that then you get teletext and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh
Robert Jobe: To navigate
Johnny Bohne: But if
Homer Foley: To navigate
Robert Jobe: it through
Christian Medina: That's right,
Homer Foley: yeah.
Robert Jobe: th through
Johnny Bohne: you
Christian Medina: that's
Robert Jobe: teletext.
Christian Medina: right.
Johnny Bohne: want to go to page seven hundred?
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: with
Johnny Bohne: How man
Robert Jobe: the wheel it's easy.
Homer Foley: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing, you press the the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh
Johnny Bohne: I don't understand it. Can you repeat it?
Homer Foley: Well you can you can press press the teletext button
Johnny Bohne: Yeah.
Homer Foley: and then
Christian Medina: then
Homer Foley: you then you
Christian Medina: then
Homer Foley: can
Christian Medina: both
Homer Foley: you can
Christian Medina: scroll
Homer Foley: f
Christian Medina: buttons they are for teletext browsing. And you can tele
Johnny Bohne: Ah okay okay.
Christian Medina: yeah, once
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Christian Medina: you
Homer Foley: Mm
Christian Medina: press
Johnny Bohne: Okay
Christian Medina: the teletext
Johnny Bohne: okay.
Homer Foley: uh
Christian Medina: button then the scroll buttons
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Christian Medina: they are more for teletext, they are no more for channel or vol volume.
Johnny Bohne: I see. I see.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Okay. Okay.
Homer Foley: And this is the uh the infrared uh port.
Christian Medina: That's right.
Homer Foley: Also the top of the banana.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Excellent.
Homer Foley: So. And then we have in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh
Robert Jobe: Calling.
Homer Foley: for calling the uh the banana.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Excellent. And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas?
Homer Foley: Actually they do. That's
Robert Jobe: Oh.
Homer Foley: that's yeah that's uh that's
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Homer Foley: form and function in the one in the one
Christian Medina: So it
Homer Foley: uh
Christian Medina: always
Homer Foley: object.
Christian Medina: means, whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage. It's like antennas.
Homer Foley: Yeah. So. But yeah that's um that's just like that's an attractive um base station.
Robert Jobe: Great.
Homer Foley: So. Okay.
Robert Jobe: So, what else?
Christian Medina: And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries.
Johnny Bohne: Is it really weight? Is it light or
Christian Medina: It is very light.
Robert Jobe: Yeah,
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Robert Jobe: they're
Homer Foley: It's
Robert Jobe: light.
Homer Foley: it's uh it's about the weight of a banana.
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Homer Foley: You know, to give you the correct look and feel.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Ok
Christian Medina: And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana.
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Christian Medina: Otherwise it's you know
Johnny Bohne: Yeah yeah yeah, I
Christian Medina: a
Johnny Bohne: see.
Christian Medina: child comes
Johnny Bohne: I under
Christian Medina: and
Johnny Bohne: I understand.
Christian Medina: so
Homer Foley: I think a child would try to eat it anyway, so maybe
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Homer Foley: we should consider that. maybe health and safety aspects.
Robert Jobe: Ah yeah.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm. Oh we didn't think of that yet.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So for the power source, apparently you still you you want to use both solar cells and
Christian Medina: Oh
Robert Jobe: batteries.
Christian Medina: yeah that's right.
Robert Jobe: Uh you mean okay. So
Homer Foley: I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary
Robert Jobe: Yeah,
Homer Foley: any more
Robert Jobe: where
Homer Foley: if you have
Robert Jobe: are
Homer Foley: a
Robert Jobe: going
Homer Foley: recharging
Robert Jobe: to
Homer Foley: base station.
Robert Jobe: where are
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm
Robert Jobe: you are
Christian Medina: mm-hmm.
Robert Jobe: you going to place them?
Christian Medina: It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there.
Homer Foley: If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like
Robert Jobe: You have enough
Homer Foley: uh the
Robert Jobe: surface?
Homer Foley: black bit
Robert Jobe: You
Homer Foley: but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells
Christian Medina: Yeah because
Homer Foley: anymore.
Christian Medina: now we are having rechargeable batteries
Robert Jobe: Okay.
Christian Medina: so
Homer Foley: Mm.
Christian Medina: that that
Robert Jobe: What
Christian Medina: is.
Robert Jobe: will be the autonomy? Roughly?
Homer Foley: The what sorry?
Robert Jobe: The autonomy. Autonomy.
Homer Foley: What do you mean?
Robert Jobe: Uh
Johnny Bohne: How long
Robert Jobe: I
Johnny Bohne: the
Robert Jobe: mean how
Johnny Bohne: how long
Robert Jobe: long does i
Johnny Bohne: the
Robert Jobe: how
Johnny Bohne: bit
Robert Jobe: how
Johnny Bohne: the
Homer Foley: Ah.
Johnny Bohne: batteries
Robert Jobe: how long can
Johnny Bohne: long.
Robert Jobe: it be held off
Homer Foley: Ah.
Robert Jobe: a station?
Homer Foley: A long time.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: Eight
Robert Jobe: A long
Christian Medina: to ten eight to ten hours.
Homer Foley: No no no, it can it should
Christian Medina: N
Homer Foley: be
Christian Medina: most
Homer Foley: weeks.
Christian Medina: no most of the time it's not being used.
Robert Jobe: Yeah, so it's
Homer Foley: Yeah
Christian Medina: So when
Homer Foley: but y
Christian Medina: when
Homer Foley: people
Christian Medina: you are
Homer Foley: don't
Christian Medina: making
Homer Foley: like
Christian Medina: it
Homer Foley: to put
Christian Medina: on
Homer Foley: it
Robert Jobe: It's
Homer Foley: back in
Robert Jobe: used
Homer Foley: the base
Robert Jobe: only
Homer Foley: station
Robert Jobe: when you
Homer Foley: all the time people
Christian Medina: Mm.
Homer Foley: leave wanna leave it on the couch so
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working. If
Homer Foley: Ah,
Christian Medina: you are just
Homer Foley: okay.
Christian Medina: leaving like that it'll
Homer Foley: Okay.
Christian Medina: be much longer.
Robert Jobe: Yeah. F weeks.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Christian Medina: That's right.
Robert Jobe: Right. Next slide?
Christian Medina: Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it.
Robert Jobe: Okay. Okay. Those really
Christian Medina: That's right.
Robert Jobe: sounds very good. Nothing else to add?
Homer Foley: It seems to be falling
Johnny Bohne: l
Homer Foley: over.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: yeah. I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince Johnny Bohne the less is the the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit
Christian Medina: You want to have more functional buttons?
Johnny Bohne: Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say that. You the
Christian Medina: You are
Johnny Bohne: the
Christian Medina: not
Johnny Bohne: b
Christian Medina: convinced.
Johnny Bohne: the buttons change h h their function depending if
Christian Medina: Not
Johnny Bohne: y it's
Christian Medina: not
Johnny Bohne: teletext
Christian Medina: many, we
Johnny Bohne: or not
Christian Medina: we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case, that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that, the channel buttons, they baco become the scrolling buttons.
Johnny Bohne: And the volume button will will become
Christian Medina: It's up to you, means. Now that
Robert Jobe: Well in fact b both will be could be useful, navigating
Christian Medina: Means
Robert Jobe: through
Christian Medina: let's
Robert Jobe: teletext.
Christian Medina: say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits.
Homer Foley: Or can move between positions
Christian Medina: That's
Homer Foley: in
Christian Medina: right.
Homer Foley: the in the number.
Johnny Bohne: And
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: what about people who want to use digits? Butto real buttons?
Robert Jobe: Wow.
Christian Medina: Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape. So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing, they they don't care about the buttons any more.
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Christian Medina: And anyway
Johnny Bohne: Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff?
Homer Foley: It's all automatic.
Johnny Bohne: It's all automatic.
Homer Foley: Yep.
Johnny Bohne: Okay. Okay yeah
Robert Jobe: Very
Johnny Bohne: it's fine.
Robert Jobe: good
Johnny Bohne: W
Robert Jobe: uh yeah
Johnny Bohne: we are living in a
Robert Jobe: you
Johnny Bohne: wonderful
Robert Jobe: th
Johnny Bohne: world.
Robert Jobe: yeah.
Homer Foley: Uh.
Robert Jobe: Bananas everywhere. Okay, so
Johnny Bohne: Automatically configure.
Robert Jobe: So we have to go through now
Christian Medina: Evalua
Robert Jobe: evaluations.
Christian Medina: yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So
Johnny Bohne: S
Robert Jobe: your slides are ready? Uh you're four
Johnny Bohne: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: I think. So this is one, which one is this one?
Johnny Bohne: Yeah. Okay. I I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven.
Christian Medina: Why this strange factor of seven?
Johnny Bohne: Because i I'm sorry. Sorry.
Christian Medina: Usually I
Johnny Bohne: Ah
Christian Medina: have
Johnny Bohne: yeah.
Christian Medina: seen
Johnny Bohne: It's
Christian Medina: that
Johnny Bohne: from
Christian Medina: scales
Johnny Bohne: sorry,
Christian Medina: are from
Johnny Bohne: it's
Christian Medina: one
Johnny Bohne: from
Christian Medina: to ten.
Johnny Bohne: one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: should be an even
Robert Jobe: Num
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: uh
Robert Jobe: number
Johnny Bohne: scale,
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Johnny Bohne: and five is too short and nine is too long.
Christian Medina: Okay. Okay fine, got
Johnny Bohne: I'm
Christian Medina: the idea.
Johnny Bohne: a I
Robert Jobe: So to
Johnny Bohne: I'm
Robert Jobe: have in order to have enough granularity
Johnny Bohne: Sorry?
Robert Jobe: it's in order to have enough granularity
Johnny Bohne: Yeah yeah.
Robert Jobe: in the evaluation.
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: The variance is mi it's
Robert Jobe: Okay.
Christian Medina: Okay,
Johnny Bohne: is minimal.
Christian Medina: okay, great.
Johnny Bohne: I'm um answering your question.
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: Okay.
Christian Medina: Yeah yeah. Go ahead.
Johnny Bohne: And that's the criteria I I found more useful. I think I sh I I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard?
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm. Sure.
Johnny Bohne: And we all four could range
Christian Medina: Okay. Yeah
Johnny Bohne: could evaluate the
Christian Medina: yeah. Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Okay.
Christian Medina: So you can say fancy, handy.
Christian Medina: Handy.
Johnny Bohne: Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or
Christian Medina: Yeah, it's fancy, according to Johnny Bohne.
Johnny Bohne: Seven but
Robert Jobe: Yeah, six.
Christian Medina: Seven.
Robert Jobe: S seven.
Christian Medina: Seven by Johnny Bohne.
Robert Jobe: Six.
Johnny Bohne: I would say seven.
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: It's quite fancy.
Christian Medina: So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus
Robert Jobe: No, wait.
Homer Foley: Yeah uh five.
Robert Jobe: What do you say seven?
Christian Medina: Five.
Robert Jobe: Five?
Homer Foley: Five, maybe maybe maybe six it's it's I guess
Robert Jobe: Okay, six
Homer Foley: it's
Robert Jobe: point five.
Homer Foley: yeah.
Robert Jobe: Handy?
Christian Medina: Again I'll give seven.
Robert Jobe: Seven.
Homer Foley: I'd give it a six like
Johnny Bohne: Six.
Homer Foley: I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote,
Christian Medina: Yep.
Homer Foley: 'cause of the scroll wheels but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote.
Robert Jobe: So seven,
Christian Medina: Seven
Robert Jobe: seven,
Christian Medina: for Johnny Bohne.
Robert Jobe: six,
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Six.
Robert Jobe: six point five. Functional.
Christian Medina: I'll give five.
Robert Jobe: Four.
Johnny Bohne: I would say
Homer Foley: Well it depends when you say functional, do you mean it does what we want it to do, or d does what it does, you know,
Johnny Bohne: Everything
Homer Foley: can it make
Johnny Bohne: ar
Homer Foley: you coffee? You know.
Johnny Bohne: Mm everything
Robert Jobe: Uh for a remote control, does he have all the
Homer Foley: Yeah. Yeah.
Robert Jobe: you
Johnny Bohne: It's
Robert Jobe: could
Johnny Bohne: compared
Robert Jobe: expect.
Johnny Bohne: to the all
Christian Medina: That's right.
Johnny Bohne: remote controls.
Christian Medina: That's
Homer Foley: That's before
Christian Medina: right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf.
Homer Foley: Yeah. I have to say four.
Johnny Bohne: Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal
Homer Foley: Well it's not a
Johnny Bohne: remote
Homer Foley: universal
Johnny Bohne: contro
Homer Foley: remote. Remember
Christian Medina: We
Johnny Bohne: Ah it's
Homer Foley: we're focus
Johnny Bohne: not an univer
Homer Foley: we're supposed
Johnny Bohne: but it's
Homer Foley: to focus
Johnny Bohne: for all
Homer Foley: just
Johnny Bohne: kind
Homer Foley: on T_V_s.
Johnny Bohne: of T_V_s?
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: Well all T_V_s but only T_ only T_V_s I guess.
Robert Jobe: So it's universal but for T_V_s.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So s uh four?
Christian Medina: Five.
Robert Jobe: Five?
Homer Foley: Four.
Robert Jobe: Four.
Johnny Bohne: Four. Four.
Christian Medina: So four point two?
Homer Foley: Just four.
Robert Jobe: Four.
Christian Medina: four.
Johnny Bohne: So
Homer Foley: Obviously
Johnny Bohne: four?
Homer Foley: there are some outliers so
Robert Jobe: Okay cool? Cool device.
Christian Medina: There I'll give it seven.
Johnny Bohne: It means cool features, like new features actually.
Christian Medina: That's right.
Homer Foley: Which
Christian Medina: For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have.
Robert Jobe: Yeah. Seven.
Johnny Bohne: I would say five.
Homer Foley: I'll say five.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Robert Jobe: Six.
Christian Medina: Seven.
Robert Jobe: Plus six,
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: I say I said seven. So it's
Homer Foley: S
Johnny Bohne: You
Robert Jobe: six.
Johnny Bohne: said seven?
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: yeah. 'Cause it's five five seven seven so
Christian Medina: Okay.
Homer Foley: Uh, okay, definitely easy
Christian Medina: Definitely
Homer Foley: to use.
Christian Medina: seven.
Homer Foley: Seven.
Robert Jobe: Seven. Seven. And you?
Johnny Bohne: Five.
Robert Jobe: Outl you are not lik outlier. Seven
Johnny Bohne: Sorry,
Christian Medina: Okay.
Johnny Bohne: I have
Robert Jobe: Okay
Johnny Bohne: them
Robert Jobe: okay okay okay.
Homer Foley: Alright, now here's the sixty million Dollar question, well, twenty five twenty five Euro question.
Robert Jobe: Of course I'll buy the banana.
Homer Foley: What do you what do you guys reckon?
Christian Medina: I'll
Johnny Bohne: Of
Christian Medina: say
Robert Jobe: Well
Johnny Bohne: cour
Christian Medina: five.
Johnny Bohne: Of course the most difficult question for the end.
Christian Medina: I'll
Homer Foley: Hmm.
Christian Medina: say five.
Robert Jobe: Twenty five Euros.
Johnny Bohne: I find it quite cheap actually. I dunno. If i i it depends,
Robert Jobe: Cheap.
Johnny Bohne: if you live in in Switzerland or you live in
Robert Jobe: Yeah, so the target price is for all Europe, or only for rich countries? It's more targeting U_K_ or
Johnny Bohne: I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or
Robert Jobe: So this is
Homer Foley: Uh
Robert Jobe: selling costs, not production costs.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah this
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: is the the
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: initial specifications.
Robert Jobe: Yeah yeah sure. Um Five.
Johnny Bohne: I would say six. It's quite cheap actually.
Homer Foley: I'd say two.
Christian Medina: Why?
Homer Foley: I don't want a banana on my living room table, a
Robert Jobe: Aw,
Homer Foley: banana remote.
Robert Jobe: should
Christian Medina: No
Robert Jobe: be nice
Christian Medina: but it's
Robert Jobe: in
Christian Medina: really
Robert Jobe: your
Christian Medina: handy actually if you see.
Homer Foley: It
Christian Medina: It's
Homer Foley: is handy,
Christian Medina: it's so handy.
Homer Foley: it's
Christian Medina: And
Homer Foley: handy,
Christian Medina: then
Homer Foley: but it it's terrible.
Christian Medina: Anyb anybody
Robert Jobe: It's
Christian Medina: who
Robert Jobe: kitsch.
Christian Medina: comes
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Christian Medina: here anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this.
Homer Foley: Yeah, but it's not a positive thing.
Christian Medina: It's a very positive thing
Homer Foley: Well,
Christian Medina: if
Homer Foley: you
Christian Medina: you see
Homer Foley: know,
Christian Medina: like that.
Homer Foley: it's it's handy,
Robert Jobe: Well,
Homer Foley: it's ergonomic,
Robert Jobe: don't forget
Homer Foley: but
Robert Jobe: well,
Homer Foley: it's a banana.
Robert Jobe: don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are
Christian Medina: Youngsters.
Johnny Bohne: Actually
Robert Jobe: wh yeah,
Johnny Bohne: maybe
Robert Jobe: youngst youngst
Homer Foley: so.
Robert Jobe: No well yeah I if
Johnny Bohne: Yeah
Robert Jobe: you would be young. Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance.
Homer Foley: No, it's I.
Robert Jobe: Okay
Homer Foley: I would buy
Robert Jobe: you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun
Christian Medina: You want
Robert Jobe: things.
Christian Medina: to flaunt.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: You with your girlfriend or something.
Robert Jobe: Yeah, you want to show the beautiful banana
Homer Foley: S
Robert Jobe: you have.
Christian Medina: Or might
Homer Foley: s
Christian Medina: be it does some other kind of thing but
Homer Foley: Still I I'd say two. I don't think I at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control, really.
Christian Medina: Uh yeah, crazy.
Robert Jobe: Okay so
Homer Foley: I can
Robert Jobe: you
Homer Foley: say,
Robert Jobe: s you
Homer Foley: maybe
Robert Jobe: give
Homer Foley: there is a market
Robert Jobe: oh
Homer Foley: for it,
Robert Jobe: yeah
Homer Foley: I dunno.
Robert Jobe: yeah I know I know. So you say two.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Christian Medina: I say five.
Robert Jobe: F I d I say five. You say?
Johnny Bohne: I change the question.
Robert Jobe: So what's
Christian Medina: And
Robert Jobe: the
Christian Medina: you
Robert Jobe: new
Christian Medina: have saved
Robert Jobe: question?
Christian Medina: it?
Johnny Bohne: So yeah upload the
Christian Medina: You'll have to reload.
Robert Jobe: Uh yeah, I think so.
Homer Foley: Okay, so, it depends if uh
Johnny Bohne: Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one.
Robert Jobe: Yeah that's two
Homer Foley: If
Robert Jobe: different
Homer Foley: I had
Robert Jobe: question.
Homer Foley: t if I had to spend twenty five Euro, if that was like my limit, maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look
Christian Medina: They're not
Robert Jobe: Ugly.
Homer Foley: worse
Christian Medina: going to be
Homer Foley: than
Christian Medina: as
Homer Foley: a banana.
Christian Medina: And they they might not be a as easy as
Homer Foley: And
Christian Medina: this
Homer Foley: it yeah
Christian Medina: yeah.
Homer Foley: this is gonna f you know handy to use.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: So? What
Christian Medina: S
Johnny Bohne: now?
Robert Jobe: I stick
Johnny Bohne: What
Robert Jobe: to five.
Johnny Bohne: range?
Christian Medina: I go
Homer Foley: Although
Christian Medina: slightly
Homer Foley: it still
Christian Medina: up.
Homer Foley: has
Christian Medina: Six.
Homer Foley: it still
Johnny Bohne: Six.
Homer Foley: has the word of course at the beginning so I dunno. Um.
Robert Jobe: W we have six,
Homer Foley: I'd
Robert Jobe: five
Homer Foley: give it I'd give it a
Robert Jobe: Three
Homer Foley: I give it a four now.
Robert Jobe: So we are
Johnny Bohne: Six? Six?
Christian Medina: Six,
Robert Jobe: six,
Christian Medina: five,
Robert Jobe: five,
Christian Medina: four.
Robert Jobe: four
Johnny Bohne: Six, so it's uh five point five, or less.
Robert Jobe: Yeah. So
Christian Medina: Okay.
Robert Jobe: So and last question, will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um, zero. No uh we can't. So one.
Johnny Bohne: Actually yeah, I we
Robert Jobe: Well if.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: let's say I'll put two.
Homer Foley: I'd say three, I mean my remote control is kinda at home is pretty terrible. If it was change my remote control of my D_V_D_ player for a Mando banana then I would be more inclined to
Robert Jobe: It's for the T_V_.
Homer Foley: but uh 'cause it's really bad but uh I'd say a three.
Christian Medina: I'll still give it five.
Johnny Bohne: Five?
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Two three
Johnny Bohne: You
Robert Jobe: five
Johnny Bohne: are romantic, really. I
Robert Jobe: two
Johnny Bohne: would
Robert Jobe: three
Johnny Bohne: say two.
Robert Jobe: fi and two.
Christian Medina: So
Robert Jobe: So
Christian Medina: it's
Robert Jobe: it's
Christian Medina: somewhere
Robert Jobe: r
Christian Medina: three point five I
Robert Jobe: Yeah,
Christian Medina: think.
Robert Jobe: three point five.
Johnny Bohne: Who is the outlier? Wh wh you said five?
Christian Medina: No
Robert Jobe: No
Christian Medina: I said
Robert Jobe: no
Christian Medina: five.
Robert Jobe: you say five, he is the outlier. Okay just just do a sum.
Johnny Bohne: I don't know if it's a
Homer Foley: It's not very promising but you know we're
Johnny Bohne: No
Homer Foley: not young trendsetters.
Johnny Bohne: because there are more yeah, we shouldn't sum like that.
Robert Jobe: Well maybe we should we should uh have
Johnny Bohne: Because
Robert Jobe: a look globally
Johnny Bohne: the the
Robert Jobe: glob
Johnny Bohne: last two questions is much more important than the rest actually.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Johnny Bohne: Otherwise we wouldn't
Homer Foley: Is
Johnny Bohne: we will
Homer Foley: there some
Johnny Bohne: not sell.
Homer Foley: some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up?
Johnny Bohne: Uh no I didn't anything.
Homer Foley: Well just leave it at that then.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: Oops.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah, the
Robert Jobe: So maybe
Johnny Bohne: uh
Robert Jobe: maybe w we can we should stick to general feeling.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: We can had uh have a out of these numbers, which which is that well we should go for it.
Johnny Bohne: Do
Robert Jobe: Problem
Johnny Bohne: you want Johnny Bohne
Robert Jobe: with
Johnny Bohne: to sum
Robert Jobe: connectors?
Johnny Bohne: o I think
Homer Foley: No.
Johnny Bohne: it's not
Homer Foley: I think it it
Christian Medina: Yeah
Homer Foley: kind
Christian Medina: it's
Homer Foley: of
Christian Medina: it's
Homer Foley: you just
Christian Medina: funny.
Homer Foley: lose information if you sum it,
Robert Jobe: Okay.
Homer Foley: so.
Robert Jobe: So let's move uh let's move on.
Christian Medina: Yeah, sure.
Robert Jobe: Okay, now now we have to mm to estimate uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here, okay. We are going to go through so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: Well we decided against the solar cells so
Robert Jobe: Oh
Christian Medina: Solar cells,
Robert Jobe: yeah finally
Christian Medina: yeah yeah
Robert Jobe: we say
Christian Medina: yeah
Robert Jobe: no.
Christian Medina: yeah yeah,
Robert Jobe: Okay
Christian Medina: we said no to
Robert Jobe: so
Christian Medina: that.
Robert Jobe: let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But
Homer Foley: You mean, charging it by shaking the banana.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: Yeah. bring
Robert Jobe: Okay
Christian Medina: the cost
Robert Jobe: so we we stick to battery, one.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo.
Homer Foley: Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually
Robert Jobe: Ah you have to ah okay I see so kinetic is
Johnny Bohne: S
Robert Jobe: really uh shaking the banana.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So
Christian Medina: Okay.
Robert Jobe: we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the.
Christian Medina: So we have the regular chip on the print,
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: which is one.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: And that's it.
Robert Jobe: Okay. No so we hin
Christian Medina: And we have sample speaker.
Robert Jobe: Yeah so
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: one.
Christian Medina: Yeah. the cost of that is very high.
Robert Jobe: Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing.
Homer Foley: Well
Robert Jobe: So we
Homer Foley: actually
Robert Jobe: are
Homer Foley: that that no that sample speaker is not we we're not using that, we're just using the
Robert Jobe: The beep.
Homer Foley: the very beep simple beep, that
Christian Medina: Uh-huh.
Homer Foley: s that sample thing is
Robert Jobe: That's
Homer Foley: like
Robert Jobe: what
Homer Foley: the voice recording and
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: everything.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Robert Jobe: Okay so
Homer Foley: So
Robert Jobe: I'll remove it.
Homer Foley: Yeah. I
Robert Jobe: S
Homer Foley: say that Yeah.
Christian Medina: And we have
Robert Jobe: So
Christian Medina: sev
Robert Jobe: don't we need a Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So
Christian Medina: So we we'll put some extras, if there is
Robert Jobe: Yeah
Christian Medina: something.
Robert Jobe: maybe. We'll see
Homer Foley: Mm.
Robert Jobe: later. Okay so in for the case um I put single curved.
Christian Medina: Okay. To reduce the cost, it's okay.
Homer Foley: Well, wait a second,
Robert Jobe: Because we
Homer Foley: no,
Robert Jobe: have two
Homer Foley: it's
Robert Jobe: things.
Homer Foley: it's double curved, it's got a c,
Christian Medina: Oh
Homer Foley: it's
Christian Medina: it's
Homer Foley: uh
Robert Jobe: No.
Christian Medina: got all the directions so don't worry.
Homer Foley: Well d yeah it's monotonic but
Christian Medina: It's got a direction.
Homer Foley: it's got but if you hold it if you hold it that way that's two curved, one on this side, one on that side, but they're opposite
Robert Jobe: Well.
Homer Foley: sides.
Johnny Bohne: Actually
Robert Jobe: What a
Johnny Bohne: what's
Robert Jobe: what
Homer Foley: This
Johnny Bohne: the differen
Homer Foley: is actually
Robert Jobe: i
Homer Foley: I mean
Robert Jobe: if
Homer Foley: this probably
Robert Jobe: I put one here.
Homer Foley: this probably actually costs more than three
Robert Jobe: Yeah
Homer Foley: if
Robert Jobe: so
Homer Foley: you
Robert Jobe: let's put one here in the then
Christian Medina: Okay.
Robert Jobe: instead of
Christian Medina: Okay.
Robert Jobe: single oka all right.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So we stick to plastic, it cost
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: nothing.
Christian Medina: That's right.
Homer Foley: Well no didn't we say we wanted to do a rubber
Robert Jobe: No, it's too no.
Homer Foley: if you drop it?
Johnny Bohne: Too
Robert Jobe: It's
Johnny Bohne: expensive.
Robert Jobe: too expensive.
Homer Foley: Well when
Robert Jobe: We're
Homer Foley: okay.
Robert Jobe: already at
Homer Foley: Well
Robert Jobe: eleven.
Homer Foley: we we'll come back we'll come back and see if we can fit it in.
Robert Jobe: Okay so I put rubber one. Okay so special colour, yellow.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Uh for the interface we have
Christian Medina: We don't have any push buttons.
Homer Foley: No, we have two push buttons.
Robert Jobe: We have three.
Christian Medina: No that is a scroll wheel itself,
Homer Foley: Huh.
Christian Medina: it'll be put in that.
Robert Jobe: No no. We have
Christian Medina: Ah
Robert Jobe: two scroll,
Christian Medina: okay, okay.
Robert Jobe: and
Homer Foley: Uh.
Robert Jobe: we have three push buttons.
Christian Medina: Okay, okay.
Johnny Bohne: Actually
Homer Foley: Okay
Robert Jobe: And
Johnny Bohne: whe
Homer Foley: it's gonna
Johnny Bohne: whe
Homer Foley: have to be plastic.
Johnny Bohne: when you wrote regular chip you should put two, because there is another chip here.
Robert Jobe: No it's no chip. This is just radio frequency.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Th This
Johnny Bohne: Yeah
Robert Jobe: is
Johnny Bohne: but
Robert Jobe: no chip.
Christian Medina: No.
Johnny Bohne: you
Christian Medina: There's
Johnny Bohne: need
Christian Medina: no chip there. It just emits the signal.
Robert Jobe: It's just
Christian Medina: And the receiver accepts it and
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Fo
Christian Medina: that's
Johnny Bohne: i
Christian Medina: it.
Johnny Bohne: it does nothing actually?
Robert Jobe: No.
Christian Medina: Just
Robert Jobe: Just
Christian Medina: se sends the signal,
Robert Jobe: only.
Christian Medina: that's it.
Homer Foley: It's a recharger thing and uh
Robert Jobe: Okay w we didn't think a thought about uh integrated scroll wheel push buttons.
Homer Foley: Well I actually did um think about it myself but I thought you know because you could potentially you know you could be pushing it down as you scroll it for a instead of a turbo
Robert Jobe: Yeah,
Homer Foley: button but you know the turbo
Robert Jobe: so
Homer Foley: button does add that extra class.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: You know. So I mean if we're if we're over budget then maybe we could we could rethink that.
Robert Jobe: Okay. So no L_C_D_, so for we have no button supplements,
Christian Medina: Yep.
Robert Jobe: right?
Christian Medina: No.
Robert Jobe: Uh well in fact could we could not we consider this button as a button supplement because oh no, these are these are for colours, co and special forms, special
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: colours and special materials.
Homer Foley: No we're not we
Robert Jobe: So
Homer Foley: don't need anything special for
Robert Jobe: Okay
Homer Foley: the buttons.
Robert Jobe: so we are over budget.
Christian Medina: Yeah. So first thing which we should take care of is,
Homer Foley: Make it
Christian Medina: instead
Homer Foley: plastic
Christian Medina: of
Homer Foley: instead
Christian Medina: rubber,
Homer Foley: of rubber.
Christian Medina: let
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Christian Medina: it be plastic.
Homer Foley: And then we're basically o on budget except for you know ten cents.
Christian Medina: And uh that much money will be required for the base station, which is not there.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: So mayb in fact n we have to put two here because it cost nothing.
Homer Foley: Yeah well
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Homer Foley: pl the base station is made
Christian Medina: That's
Homer Foley: out
Christian Medina: right.
Homer Foley: of m many
Christian Medina: So
Homer Foley: units of plastic.
Christian Medina: might be ninety centimes for the the remaining things which the cord and everything
Robert Jobe: Exactly
Christian Medina: which'll go
Robert Jobe: exactly so we have margin for that stuff.
Christian Medina: That's right.
Homer Foley: Does that include charging circuitry and everything?
Robert Jobe: Yeah maybe. Okay good.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Wha Excellent.
Homer Foley: So what do we do with the extra profits?
Robert Jobe: Um we'll invest in R_ and D_.
Homer Foley: Okay. The next fruit.
Robert Jobe: Yeah. So well we're under the the the cost. So we can go to through to project evaluation.
Johnny Bohne: Okay so now we have a product which nobody would would buy. Would yeah, would buy.
Robert Jobe: Sorry?
Homer Foley: No we have
Johnny Bohne: Yeah
Homer Foley: a product
Johnny Bohne: because
Homer Foley: which none of us would
Johnny Bohne: th
Homer Foley: buy.
Johnny Bohne: th the evaluation
Robert Jobe: Which is
Johnny Bohne: project
Robert Jobe: different. Which is different. None of us will buy it.
Homer Foley: No it's people in in in Milan and uh in Paris
Johnny Bohne: Ah would buy,
Homer Foley: that
Johnny Bohne: yeah.
Homer Foley: are gonna buy it.
Johnny Bohne: Massively,
Homer Foley: We're n
Johnny Bohne: yeah.
Homer Foley: yeah. We're not in Milan or Paris.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah. Okay. Uh you have been in Milan a couple of times, so.
Homer Foley: Actually
Robert Jobe: This
Homer Foley: there
Robert Jobe: is
Homer Foley: were a lot
Robert Jobe: a
Homer Foley: of
Robert Jobe: battery.
Johnny Bohne: And you said the lowest.
Robert Jobe: This is
Christian Medina: S
Robert Jobe: what we which you can mm
Christian Medina: Detachable battery.
Homer Foley: That's 'cause I'm
Robert Jobe: It
Homer Foley: sick
Robert Jobe: did
Homer Foley: of
Robert Jobe: yeah.
Johnny Bohne: Yeah, for
Homer Foley: Milan.
Johnny Bohne: the batteries
Robert Jobe: Extra battery, yeah. Exac
Homer Foley: Okay so um project process.
Robert Jobe: Well in fact I I did not know I didn't know really what to say here. If uh if you have any ideas of what we can we can say. So I don't I don't I don't understand what what they mean by satisfaction um and for and for example. Should it be more like um like a status of of the these meetings in fact.
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: Yeah well in fact uh we we use a little bit the white board and the digital pen, not that much.
Homer Foley: I dunno I think we had a fair bit of creativity.
Robert Jobe: Oh yeah it's really creative.
Homer Foley: And uh but I think one thing we m missed out of this whole process was a um like a focus group with the actual people we're targeting. We needed some of these kind of young trendsetters
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: to come in and play with the banana and you know see if they
Christian Medina: They like that.
Homer Foley: see if they like it.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Robert Jobe: Yeah maybe we should go through, yeah an uh evaluation.
Homer Foley: Because yeah the evaluation for us is is kind of
Christian Medina: Biased.
Homer Foley: pointless.
Robert Jobe: So maybe you should we should do a kinda evaluation in the streets like asking to young peoples well, do you like
Homer Foley: Yeah.
Robert Jobe: to have a banana as a remote control.
Homer Foley: Because
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: it it would also be interesting to uh you to know find out if we have a market in really young children as well, to see you know how to how to market this thing.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Robert Jobe: Yeah.
Homer Foley: 'Cause you know if well I mean maybe you don't wanna give all your kids their own remote because they'll be changing the channel all the time but you know maybe in some households where there is you know a T_V_ for each kid, then you know, banana remote control could be fun for them as well. Might
Robert Jobe: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: have to draw a face on it. So but I think that's something we need to to work on next time is really finding out more about the target market.
Robert Jobe: Yep. Any any new ideas we could uh we could investigate next time? Dunno, oranges?
Christian Medina: Yeah. The cost of the thing can be made more than might be. Because I think it's just the optimal, what we have done for the cost which we are looking forward to.
Homer Foley: Yeah. I think there are ways we could maybe simplify the
Christian Medina: Interface.
Homer Foley: Well
Johnny Bohne: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: just the the the circuit board that we're using inside, I'm
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: not sure really how complicated our um our needs are. I mean all we have is two push buttons and two scrollers, do we really need an integrated circuit to
Robert Jobe: Hmm.
Homer Foley: you
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: know to process
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: that.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Johnny Bohne: So more general remote control instead of just focusing on uh on T_V_.
Christian Medina: That's
Johnny Bohne: The complexity
Christian Medina: right.
Johnny Bohne: shouldn't be much higher.
Christian Medina: Yeah.
Johnny Bohne: For you said if it good for D_V_D_ then I
Homer Foley: And
Johnny Bohne: would
Homer Foley: also fo you know for mood lighting and and stuff, that would be rather cool. I think that's actually something that should be in version two, is the ability to you know to control
Christian Medina: Integrate.
Homer Foley: things other than the T_V_ and not just electronic equipment but you
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: know the whole environment of the room.
Robert Jobe: Okay. Very good.
Christian Medina: So
Robert Jobe: So
Christian Medina: What else?
Robert Jobe: Well done. I
Christian Medina: Okay.
Robert Jobe: think we we can go
Christian Medina: Home?
Robert Jobe: home.
Christian Medina: Happily satisfied.
Robert Jobe: Yeah. Maybe maybe we can hassle the the production department to to make a a real prototype that we can use at home to to evaluate.
Christian Medina: Mm-hmm.
Homer Foley: Yep.
Robert Jobe: Okay so thanks very much.
Christian Medina: Thank
Homer Foley: Okay.
Christian Medina: you.
Robert Jobe: Bye.
Homer Foley: Thank you.
Johnny Bohne: Bye. | Robert Jobe goes through the minutes of the last meeting. They have the prototype presentation and talk about the final design, features, and power source, type of chip and weight of the remote. They go through the evaulations, using the a list of criteria made by Johnny Bohne. They rate each criteria on a scale of 0 (true) to 7 (false): how fancy it is, how handy it is, how functional, how cool it is, whether they would spend twenty five euro for it, and whether they would change their current remote for this one. Next they do a cost estimate for production. In doing this, they decide against solar cells and go with the rechargable batteries. They keep the regular chip, stick with plastic, put two scroll wheels and three push buttons, and make it a special shade of yellow. They eliminate the turbo button and give the remote a single curve because of budget restrictions. They briefly evaulate the project process and close the meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Christopher Dickey: Uh welcome back after lunch, hope uh you had a good lunch together. For uh this meeting the main agenda okay uh to discuss about the conceptual design meeting. Okay and the agenda will be the opening and uh that's uh the product manager or secretary that's Bobby Margerum and uh the presentations from the Christine and uh Agnes and from Mister Ed. And finally in this meeting we have to decide and we are to take a decision on the remote control concept and uh the functional design minutes, I think it's uh little bit uh low, but I I hope we can finish it up so I'll handle to the the functional team, to the Christine, okay, to discuss about uh the components concept.
Antonio Smith: Okay. So uh, if you could open the presentation. I'm number two.
Christopher Dickey: You're number two. 'Kay
Antonio Smith: Components design, there we go. So uh can we put it in slide show mode? Yeah.
Christopher Dickey: The next one.
Antonio Smith: Right here, is that little that one, yes please. Thank you. I'll take the mouse. So uh we were looking he specifically at the components uh the following components, uh the case, the power supply, uh the means of communications with the television set. instance we talked sort of speech recognition, you have to have microphone well no you don't actually I haven't have to have microphone in the device, but um maybe you do have it a a way it has to it has to hear the speaker
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Smith: and um, so it could be in the television set, could be in the device, but somewhere you have to put the microphone, um and a w a way of making beeps or sounds so you can find it when it's gets lost. Um so the other w thing that we So. Our method for going about this is we've looked at uh the histo hi historical record, what's worked, what hasn't and then we also um we wanted to evaluate some new materials and we contacted manufacturing for their input because, course, we m might come up and choose the material that then manufacturing didn't have the technologies or capabilities to offer us, so uh this is the approach that we took during our um our research. So um for the case, um we told we were making a specifica specific assumption that it would be curved in design. Course, you know, I wanted it to be expandable and shrinkable, but um that uh doesn't seem to b be one of the choic non-option we can uh we can really seriously explore, so then we were thinking about um rubber, but um unfortunately that's been eliminated because of the heat uh factor and th um there might be some problems with the m uh how it's uh goes with the board. Uh and uh then th plastic also has this problem of melting and it's brittle it gets brittle after a while, so um we still had titanium and and wood available, but um unfortunately uh uh titanium's also been eliminated uh, the m people in manufacturing said that you couldn't make d curved cases out of titanium, although how Apple did it with th PowerBook I'm not su quite sure but uh nevertheless um they've eliminated all of our options except wood. So,
Michael Carper: At least environmentally
Antonio Smith: this
Michael Carper: friendly.
Antonio Smith: is our finding. And a as she said, it's an environmentally friendly uh material, so we're we're currently uh proposing, uh we'll get to all my personal preferences in just a second. So then there's this other matter of the chips and um well we could use a simple design on the board, but uh these simple chips, but that's only works for the bu you don't get very much um intelligence with this simple one. And um then there was the regular which I regret that I've forgotten exactly why I'm eliminating that one. Uh the other option was this advanced chip on print, and uh we liked th we we found that it it includes this infrared sender, which w 'member the beam was that was an important component of finding the right chip. And uh manufacturing has told us that they've um uh recently developed a uh a sensor and a speaker that would uh be integrated into this advanced chip on print, so uh we we uh now jumping right to our personal preferences um I I'd really think we should, you know, use some of uh some really exotic woods, like um, you know uh, well you guys come from tropical countries so you can kinda think of some trees and some nice woods. I think that people will might really want to design their own cases, you see, they could do sort of a this um three-dimensional design on the internet, and then they could submit their orders, kinda like you submit a custom car order, you know, and you can choose the colour and the size of the wheels and the colours of the leather and things like that, and then I uh think we should go with the solar cells as well as the um microphone and speaker on the advanced chip. So this is the findings of our research and my recommendations um for the new remote control w um would be to have um have it be made out of wood. Do you have any problems with that?
Christopher Dickey: Can you go back uh one slide?
Antonio Smith: I'm not sure, how do I Oh, I know, let's see.
Michael Carper: Thank
Antonio Smith: Let's go back
Michael Carper: you.
Antonio Smith: up here.
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Christopher Dickey: Yes, uh question, uh, what's mean exactly, advanced chip on print? What's the meaning of that?
Antonio Smith: I think it's um um a multiple uh chip design um and it's uh maybe printed on to the circuit board.
Christopher Dickey: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Smith: Uh I could find out more about that
Christopher Dickey: Yeah, is
Antonio Smith: uh
Christopher Dickey: it means
Antonio Smith: before
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Antonio Smith: the
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Antonio Smith: next
Christopher Dickey: the
Antonio Smith: fi next meeting.
Christopher Dickey: yeah is it on a micro-proc micro-processor based or uh
Antonio Smith: I don't know, but I'll find out more at our next
Christopher Dickey: Okay,
Antonio Smith: meeting.
Christopher Dickey: tha that would be great, so if you find out from the technology background, okay, so that would be good.
Antonio Smith: Sounds good.
Michael Carper: Why was the plastic eliminated as a possible material?
Antonio Smith: Because um it gets brittle, cracks
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Smith: Um We want we expect these um uh these remote controls to be around for several hundred years. So. Good
Michael Carper: Whic
Bobby Margerum: Wow,
Antonio Smith: ex Good
Michael Carper: Which
Antonio Smith: expression.
Bobby Margerum: good expression. Well after us.
Michael Carper: Although I think I think with wood though you'd run into the same types of problems, wouldn't you, I mean it chips, it if you drop it, uh it's I'm not su
Christopher Dickey: So so you're not convinced about
Bobby Margerum: Actually, I'm
Christopher Dickey: the
Bobby Margerum: ready to
Christopher Dickey: the
Bobby Margerum: sell
Christopher Dickey: wood,
Bobby Margerum: it.
Christopher Dickey: yes.
Antonio Smith: you're what?
Bobby Margerum: I'm
Michael Carper: I think
Bobby Margerum: ready to sell it.
Michael Carper: if you re if you use
Antonio Smith: You
Michael Carper: really
Antonio Smith: think?
Michael Carper: good quality wood then it might work
Bobby Margerum: No
Antonio Smith: And
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Michael Carper: but
Antonio Smith: you
Michael Carper: you can't
Antonio Smith: could
Bobby Margerum: no
Michael Carper: just use
Antonio Smith: you could
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Antonio Smith: of it.
Bobby Margerum: you can use are the ones that are hard, extremely
Michael Carper: Yeah,
Bobby Margerum: hard
Michael Carper: exactly,
Bobby Margerum: wood, but
Michael Carper: yeah.
Bobby Margerum: there are some very pretty woods out there.
Antonio Smith: Well I'm glad
Bobby Margerum: That's actually
Antonio Smith: you
Bobby Margerum: very innovative idea.
Antonio Smith: Okay, good. Sorr having a hard time keeping wi control over my face.
Bobby Margerum: Well it's actually very n
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: The stain.
Bobby Margerum: I mean it's each person is gonna have their own personalised, individualised speech recognition remote
Antonio Smith: Mm.
Bobby Margerum: control in wood, that's not on the market.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah, so it it's looks good the the design the functional design uh, what about yo you?
Michael Carper: Um, in terms of comments on this or
Christopher Dickey: Yes,
Michael Carper: in terms of my
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Michael Carper: own
Christopher Dickey: yes,
Bobby Margerum: In turns of wow.
Christopher Dickey: in term in terms of comments first
Antonio Smith: She works in the cubicle next to Bobby Margerum so she's uh she was already a little bit prepared
Michael Carper: Y
Antonio Smith: for this.
Michael Carper: yeah.
Antonio Smith: Luckily Ed was not.
Bobby Margerum: Wood?
Michael Carper: I think we can get the quality materials then it shouldn't influence the design principles too much, which you'll see with my presentation. One thing we'd have to check though is what the users whether how quickly the novelty wears off
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: of having
Antonio Smith: Yeah, you wouldn't wanna have
Michael Carper: uh
Antonio Smith: to have splinters in your
Michael Carper: Yeah,
Antonio Smith: hand while you're
Michael Carper: for
Antonio Smith: using
Michael Carper: example.
Antonio Smith: your
Michael Carper: So, have to see how kid-friendly it is and and all that, but
Antonio Smith: It's really good if your dog gets ahold of it, they can use it for teething.
Bobby Margerum: They do that anyway with the rubber and plastic, so,
Antonio Smith: Yeah,
Bobby Margerum: and
Antonio Smith: they do it with other
Bobby Margerum: chew
Antonio Smith: materials
Bobby Margerum: 'em up.
Antonio Smith: as well, yeah.
Bobby Margerum: And chew 'em up.
Christopher Dickey: Okay then, uh, let's move to Agnes.
Michael Carper: Sure.
Antonio Smith: Oh, I'm sorry.
Christopher Dickey: S you're
Christopher Dickey: You are in participant
Michael Carper: One point three,
Christopher Dickey: three.
Michael Carper: yeah Uh, yeah.
Christopher Dickey: This one?
Michael Carper: I think so, yeah. Yeah, that's the one. So, it's a very short presentation, 'cause I'm actually gonna draw you the layout on the board so if you want to just go straight to the second slide, um, which basically shows, sort of I took the ideas that we were talking about last time um and tried to put that into the remote control so the things that y you can actually see on it are the on off switch, volume and channel control, the menu access button, ergonomic shape, which I completely agree with Christine's idea to have it sort of molded, so it's slightly more ergonomic and comfortable to hold than the r standard very straight remote controls. And actually the other thing with the wood if we take your customising idea, is that people can actually do sort of quasi-measurements on their hand size, so if someone has larger hands,
Antonio Smith: Right, my hand
Michael Carper: you have
Antonio Smith: is
Michael Carper: a wider
Antonio Smith: uh different
Michael Carper: remote
Antonio Smith: size
Michael Carper: control.
Antonio Smith: than yours for example.
Michael Carper: So, that's actually a really good idea for customi customisability. Um, one thing I thought might be kind of interesting is to put a flip screen on it, just like you have on flip phones, so that you don't have this case where someone sits on the remote control or accidentally puts their hand on it, especially if you have little kids around, they're not pressing the buttons while you're trying to watch a T_V_ show and accidentally change the channel
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: or turn it off. And also um you had issues with the batteries running out, so I thought maybe we could put a little battery life-light on it that kind of goes dimmer and dimmer and dimmer as your battery is starts to die. And in terms of invisible features, audio and um tactile feedback on button presses
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: and, like you said, speech recognition. So, in terms of what this thing would actually look like Despite working in interface design, I'm not the greatest artist in the world, so you'll have to forgive Bobby Margerum. You'd have something like this with an on-off switch fairly big, sort of in the corner and by itself, so you don't accidentally turn your T_V_ off while you're trying to manoeuvre other buttons. And then you have sort of one of those toggle displays for, oops, channels and volume, sort of for surfing channels and then volume, so the volume would be the up and down, 'cause volume goes up and down and then channels left to right. And then here you'd have your sort of standard, telephonish number pad. And then on one side you would have an access to the menu on your T_V_ and on the other side a way to turn off the voice control. So that if the user doesn't
Antonio Smith: Mm.
Michael Carper: want to use their voice, they can just turn it off and you don't have the remote control
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: accidentally changing things on you. Um, so again you can have a little L_C_D_ light somewhere, the flip thing and Have I forgotten anything? I don't think so. So,
Bobby Margerum: No.
Michael Carper: as you can see, it's a very very simple design, which is one of the things I really wanted to keep, is keep it simple, not have too many buttons, not have too many functionalities thrown into it. Think the design can pretty much carry over to everything, although with the wood the flip screen might have to do something slightly
Antonio Smith: A
Michael Carper: different.
Antonio Smith: hinge. Be like a copper hinge or
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Antonio Smith: you know.
Michael Carper: But you also have to d start watching out for the weight, 'cause depending on how much the the flip screen will add to the weight
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: of the remote control, you don't want it to start getting too heavy.
Antonio Smith: Mm.
Michael Carper: But that's the general layout with the general functionalities, if we come up with something else. As you can see, there's still lots of space on the actual remote control and if you do it customisably, you can make this thing fairly small or fairly o large,
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm,
Michael Carper: depending on personal
Antonio Smith: mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: preferences.
Bobby Margerum: Hmm.
Michael Carper: So, that's pretty much all I had to say, I mean, everything else in terms of design issues. just depending on where your thumb is and you tend to use the the volume control and uh the browsing more than the actual number pad, so that would be sort of in direct line of where your thumb goes when you are holding the
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: remote control, the number pad a little bit lower 'cause it's used
Antonio Smith: Mm.
Michael Carper: less frequently.
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: So once we decide exactly what we want, then we can figure out the exact positioning, but more or less I think it should go along those lines.
Christopher Dickey: So what's your, uh, the comments or uh s
Bobby Margerum: Simple design. It's what consumers want.
Christopher Dickey: Okay
Bobby Margerum: It's almost like, Houston, we have a product here. Problem is obviously gonna be cost.
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: Okay, I also have a f very simple presentation,
Christopher Dickey: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: because for the marketing point you have to see
Christopher Dickey: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: what the consumers want.
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: I also have uh copied a different type of remote. If you can find Bobby Margerum, where I'm at. There should only be one in here. trend watch.
Antonio Smith: Sure.
Bobby Margerum: It's being modified. They're stealing our product. We've been giving simple questionnaires in different areas because th obviously we have to see what the com consumers are looking for today, 'cause uh trends change very very quickly. In six months maybe this idea is already gone out the window, so it's gonna be a question how fast we can act. Uh they already erased the rest of mine, huh.
Antonio Smith: No, f
Michael Carper: No, no.
Antonio Smith: go to findings.
Bobby Margerum: No no, no no. 'Cause I had another comment there. Uh the market trend. This is what we know from the last uh from the questionnaires from the the all the p surveys we've done, fancy and feel-good, that's what we've been looking for, something that feels good in the hand, that's easy to use. Looking for next generation of innovation, because all the remotes out there now, they're all very similar, they all do the same thing, we have to have something completely different. Okay? Easy to use, has always has become has become another major interest that uh, with the whiteboard we can see that it's a remote that's easy to use. And I think this is another thing that's interesting is the consumers actually willing to pay the price for exciting tel technology. So even if we have a product that may be more expensive, if it comes out right, if they look it looks and feels good and has technology. The second two, you can see the last one is a very easy simple design. The second one, there is about uh forty-five thousand different buttons on it, which makes it fairly hard to read, uh very hard to use. The first one, I see that they put in a display. Now there's something else uh with the little flip-up, now we're adding all kinds of things in, but with
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: the little flip-up, if you have a little display on the flip-up that when you close it everything is locked.
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: Maybe the display also makes it easier to use, because sometimes when you're looking for buttons, maybe if you see a display
Antonio Smith: Context-sensitive instructions,
Michael Carper: Right.
Bobby Margerum: Okay
Antonio Smith: depending on what the tel what mode the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ or something
Bobby Margerum: Because
Antonio Smith: else
Bobby Margerum: I've
Antonio Smith: is
Bobby Margerum: seen
Antonio Smith: in.
Michael Carper: Especially you
Bobby Margerum: mostly
Michael Carper: might need something
Bobby Margerum: the standard
Michael Carper: like that for
Bobby Margerum: ones,
Michael Carper: training
Bobby Margerum: yeah.
Michael Carper: the speech recognition
Bobby Margerum: Now you have it now you
Michael Carper: and
Bobby Margerum: have one with the very simple also. The idea is simple, but with a display,
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: so you can see what you're doing. So maybe if we can incorporate the easiness of use,
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: trendy, fancy, feels good, uh with a display, wood, designer wood, designer colours,
Antonio Smith: You
Bobby Margerum: we
Antonio Smith: know,
Bobby Margerum: might've
Antonio Smith: maybe what you could do is when somebody orders the device Antonio Smith you could send them like um a uh uh b some sort of a foam rubber um ball,
Michael Carper: Oh yeah.
Antonio Smith: and then they would squeeze it, and it would take the shape of their hand.
Michael Carper: Yeah, so it's really molded to
Antonio Smith: To t
Michael Carper: to your specific
Bobby Margerum: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Smith: an and then you would know like um what the geometry of their hands would be and uh
Bobby Margerum: How hard they squeeze?
Antonio Smith: Yes
Bobby Margerum: Resistance
Antonio Smith: you'd know what kind
Bobby Margerum: resistance,
Antonio Smith: of wood to get.
Bobby Margerum: right.
Michael Carper: But th for that you'd also have to do sort of an average across families and
Antonio Smith: That's
Michael Carper: things like
Antonio Smith: right,
Michael Carper: that
Antonio Smith: that's
Michael Carper: if
Antonio Smith: right, you wouldn't
Michael Carper: unless
Antonio Smith: wanna go
Michael Carper: everyone
Antonio Smith: too far
Michael Carper: has their
Antonio Smith: down
Michael Carper: own
Antonio Smith: that.
Michael Carper: personal remote.
Antonio Smith: Oh that that actually would uh increase the um the revenues
Michael Carper: The sales,
Antonio Smith: we could expect,
Michael Carper: yeah.
Christopher Dickey: The
Antonio Smith: yeah.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah. I hope so.
Bobby Margerum: No, but incorporating the three uh obviously it'd be something totally new on the market,
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: totally different and from
Michael Carper: Well, already the customisability is a really good sort of new
Bobby Margerum: Although, what
Michael Carper: gimmick.
Bobby Margerum: it was it uh it was uh Nokia that came out with this changeable colours.
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: Right,
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: you take it apart, and put on another
Michael Carper: Yeah.
Bobby Margerum: face, take it off and put on another
Antonio Smith: Right,
Bobby Margerum: face
Antonio Smith: mm.
Bobby Margerum: and
Michael Carper: And
Bobby Margerum: then
Michael Carper: that took off,
Bobby Margerum: they sold
Michael Carper: yeah,
Bobby Margerum: millions,
Michael Carper: yeah.
Bobby Margerum: millions. So. So say with the f with the findings, with the research, easy to use something totally new.
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: We have to come up with something totally new that is not on the market.
Antonio Smith: We'd also have to wor um consider that uh who we were gonna get to make these custom cases in terms of manufacturing processes, we might wanna um learn about um labour laws. You know in different countries and stuff wher so we can do it cheap, but you don't wanna exploit uh labour in um third world countries.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah.
Antonio Smith: So actually you could turn it y turn around and say that you're uh par the reason the cost is high for the device is because um you're paying a a working wage to the person who made the device.
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah, but we can get a production in, uh, countries like, uh,
Antonio Smith: Cost
Christopher Dickey: India
Antonio Smith: of living is
Christopher Dickey: yes,
Antonio Smith: low.
Christopher Dickey: yes, countries like India or China or Malaysia, so you can go a better features and better price and you can sell more. So
Antonio Smith: Good, well th that'd be something that manufacturing would have to
Christopher Dickey: Yeah,
Antonio Smith: um
Christopher Dickey: yeah, so
Antonio Smith: explore more
Michael Carper: Mm yeah.
Antonio Smith: and
Christopher Dickey: Yes.
Bobby Margerum: Where
Antonio Smith: to
Bobby Margerum: w Where
Antonio Smith: where
Bobby Margerum: it would be manufactured
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Bobby Margerum: is is
Christopher Dickey: So
Bobby Margerum: another step.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah,
Antonio Smith: Yeah.
Christopher Dickey: so
Bobby Margerum: We're here to design,
Christopher Dickey: Yes uh, but uh
Bobby Margerum: come up
Christopher Dickey: that
Bobby Margerum: with
Christopher Dickey: that
Bobby Margerum: a nice
Christopher Dickey: we
Bobby Margerum: product.
Christopher Dickey: can that we can
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: talk about the production later, okay, depends on the the quantity, okay.
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: So we don't need to have our own uh fabric factory or something, so we can have a tie-up with who the do the fabric, okay, for the different uh electronics items, then we can have a business tie-up and to get to cut the cost, okay, to sell more. So, but uh le let's decide first about the components concept and uh interface concept, okay, if is acceptable for both of you, what uh Ed was talking. And your design whether you want with the display
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: or without display or just a simple, so
Michael Carper: I think it depends, I mean I think it's a good idea, but we need to really think about how useful it's gonna be because theoretically with the T_V_ you already have a big display right in front of you.
Christopher Dickey: Yeah.
Antonio Smith: Hmm.
Michael Carper: So, if we're trying to keep costs down, then maybe sacrificing the display
Antonio Smith: Hmm.
Michael Carper: is a way to go. I mean it depends on how much putting a display costs and
Antonio Smith: Hmm.
Michael Carper: what it would be used for very specifically what it would be used for,
Antonio Smith: Mm-hmm.
Michael Carper: 'cause if it's only used for one little thing, then putting in a big display case or a big display that's probably expensive just to do the training on the chip for the speech recognition or whatever, may not be the most cost-efficient way to go, but that's just sort of speculation, I mean.
Antonio Smith: What do you think Ed? Do you he liked the display in one of the concepts that you showed, um, do you know how much it costs, um, to to add a little display like this
Bobby Margerum: No.
Antonio Smith: uh?
Bobby Margerum: No
Antonio Smith: Do
Bobby Margerum: no
Antonio Smith: you wanna take an action
Bobby Margerum: p spec
Antonio Smith: item
Bobby Margerum: It's
Antonio Smith: to go find out?
Bobby Margerum: 'cause we have to find out cost on it.
Antonio Smith: Okay. Sorry
Bobby Margerum: Um,
Antonio Smith: about that.
Bobby Margerum: no that's no problem. I'm here for the pushing it after it's made.
Christopher Dickey: Yes.
Bobby Margerum: I will market it. Once we get a price on it then we can market it.
Antonio Smith: So the the advanced chip on print is what um what we've we've deci we've determined and the uh engineering industrial design is the recommendation, and um I think we've kinda come to some agreement regarding um this concept of a wooden case.
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Smith: A customisable and
Bobby Margerum: Nice beautiful mahogany
Michael Carper: What about
Bobby Margerum: red
Michael Carper: the
Bobby Margerum: wooden
Michael Carper: buttons,
Bobby Margerum: case.
Michael Carper: would Would the buttons be wood too, or
Antonio Smith: Uh I don't think so,
Christopher Dickey: I don't think so.
Antonio Smith: no, I think they could be rubber
Christopher Dickey: Yes.
Antonio Smith: like they are now,
Christopher Dickey: Yes.
Antonio Smith: so you have that
Christopher Dickey: Don't
Antonio Smith: tactile
Christopher Dickey: looks nice
Antonio Smith: experience
Christopher Dickey: uh.
Antonio Smith: of
Christopher Dickey: Yeah, so uh what we'll do is, uh, we will stick with the the simple design for time being until uh th Ed find outs about the how much it's cost to the extra, in case we go for the display.
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: Okay. So maybe what you can do is uh, both of you, you can come up with the the prototype, okay, the model.
Michael Carper: Okay.
Christopher Dickey: Okay?
Michael Carper: Sure.
Antonio Smith: So um are we done with this meeting?
Christopher Dickey: Yeah, I hope, if is it okay if uh they will come up with the prototype design, okay. Then they can show you how it looks like, and then we can uh submit to the I will submit to the management. Okay? Then meantime you can come up with the price, how much it's cost as extra for uh the display.
Antonio Smith: And a marketing
Christopher Dickey: An
Antonio Smith: strategy.
Christopher Dickey: and the marketing
Bobby Margerum: And
Christopher Dickey: strategy,
Bobby Margerum: marketing strategy,
Christopher Dickey: that's very
Bobby Margerum: thank
Christopher Dickey: important,
Bobby Margerum: you.
Christopher Dickey: okay. Yes. How much
Bobby Margerum: Fired.
Christopher Dickey: you can how mu how much how much you can sell extra. Of course you'll make money too, so it it's not only pay-out, you make money too, your commission. Okay, so, any questions?
Michael Carper: No.
Christopher Dickey: So, by next meeting, so, please come up with the the prototype, okay, then uh, then we can proceed from there.
Michael Carper: Okay.
Christopher Dickey: It's okay?
Michael Carper: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Dickey: So thanks for all your uh efforts and coming for the meeting again, and see you soon then.
Michael Carper: Okay.
Christopher Dickey: Okay? Thank you. | Antonio Smith gave her components concept presentation, which presented the components that will be used and how they will be integrated into the functional design. She announced that their only choice for casing material was wood, so she suggested an idea of having customizable wood cases. Michael Carper gave her presentation on the user interface concept for the product, and gave a basic layout of the remote's key functions. Bobby Margerum presented the marketing concept and discussed including a display to facilitate use. The group discussed the unique, custom design of the remote, and quickly talked about finding a manufacturer that could make the custom cases cheaply that still paid fair wages. The group also discussed whether or not to incorporate the display into the design, and decided to wait until the cost of adding that feature was known before adding it to the design. Antonio Smith and Michael Carper were instructed to begin building a prototype, and Bobby Margerum was instructed to work on the marketing strategy as well as research the cost of the display component. | 1 | amisum | test |
Herbert Red: Two.
Antonio Thompson: Hello.
Edgar Teal: Good
Antonio Thompson: Hello.
Edgar Teal: morning.
Donald Troyer: Hello. Ah.
Antonio Thompson: You have to put it exactly on the
Donald Troyer: Plate?
Antonio Thompson: on the yeah.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Herbert Red: Good morning.
Edgar Teal: Good morning.
Antonio Thompson: I took
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Antonio Thompson: your mouse.
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Antonio Thompson: Yeah
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Antonio Thompson: just yeah,
Edgar Teal: Or
Antonio Thompson: no, that's for Donald Troyer, I just have to make some notes.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: I got my uh mouse.
Donald Troyer: Uh I also
Herbert Red: Mouse.
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Edgar Teal: I do.
Antonio Thompson: yeah.
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Edgar Teal: My laptop is crashing.
Donald Troyer: Damn computers.
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Herbert Red: Let's just check one more time. Mm.
Donald Troyer: Can you hear Donald Troyer? Hello? Test.
Antonio Thompson: Uh actually my laptop doesn't work,
Donald Troyer: I dunno.
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Donald Troyer: Check.
Antonio Thompson: Oh no.
Donald Troyer: Okay. I think it works.
Edgar Teal: Test test. Yes, it's working.
Antonio Thompson: So you all read what we are going to do or not?
Donald Troyer: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: We're gonna make a remote control.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, that's
Edgar Teal: I
Antonio Thompson: right.
Edgar Teal: think my laptop is a bit etchy.
Antonio Thompson: I just made a a simple uh presentation. So you put some things in it. Okay.
Antonio Thompson: How does this work? I dunno.
Herbert Red: One uh
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Antonio Thompson: This one?
Herbert Red: Yes.
Donald Troyer: Press F_ eleven.
Antonio Thompson: Ah cool. Okay. So that's my name, Uh we're going to make uh a remote control, you already know that. Just have a look, are we going to uh this agenda of our meeting. You know, this is about twenty five minutes, this meeting. So um the thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do, you also read what this the things or,
Herbert Red: Yes.
Antonio Thompson: not yet, okay. So um, yeah, it has to be original, trendy, user-friendly that's what we're going to design. Uh first we have uh uh three steps of uh making the the remote control. Fir the first thing is th the functional design, that's very important. We have to look what the needs are, the effects of the functional design, and and how the mm the the remote control works, so that's where we're going to look in the functional design, it's for the f next meeting. The the second thing is the conceptual design, that's what it that's uh the spe the specifications of the components and the properties and the specifications of the user interface. And we have to look what uh the market is doing for what kind of uh remote controls are in the market. And the third thing is uh the detailed design um and that's exa yeah, you know what it is, it's exactly how it looks and whatever. Okay so uh no, this is a these are two smartboards, with the uh f uh s an introduction of that one. And you already saw you know all that that you here can put uh things in the the red project uh map.
Donald Troyer: Folder, yes.
Antonio Thompson: Folder, okay. So no okay have a look at that one. Okay. So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read. You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboard and um and say why it's your favourite animal. So and you have this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen. So okay, so first have to show you, maybe you can come here to have a look how it works. Yes?
Donald Troyer: Ah I
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: can see
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Donald Troyer: it now.
Antonio Thompson: This a new page, it's okay. Use pen format. and a different colour can use here no I just take the pink. You take oh there's no pink, okay, oh
Herbert Red: Purple.
Antonio Thompson: just purple, okay. No blue. And uh line width ten. Okay uh just take what I'm going to draw is an elephant. Just draw slowly, because otherwise it won't work. It's a very nice elephant, you can see. I dunno what it looks but it doesn't matter.
Herbert Red: Looks very nice.
Antonio Thompson: I just h Something like this? Oh no Yeah,
Donald Troyer: It look
Antonio Thompson: okay.
Donald Troyer: like a dinosaurs.
Antonio Thompson: Because I like uh okay.
Herbert Red: A pink elephant.
Antonio Thompson: Just takes so long, okay. Whatever, just. You erased this one. It's a bit slow you can see, this is a bit annoying.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Okay, so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want.
Donald Troyer: Let
Antonio Thompson: Just
Donald Troyer: Donald Troyer try one.
Antonio Thompson: don't um yeah, just u use it like that, yeah. That's okay.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Donald Troyer: and then uh what's the colour? How do I do
Antonio Thompson: It's in format. Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Ah. I'll take this one.
Donald Troyer: Uh
Antonio Thompson: Just
Donald Troyer: there has to be water, but
Antonio Thompson: No it has to be an animal, so if that's
Donald Troyer: Yeah
Antonio Thompson: it's
Donald Troyer: yeah,
Antonio Thompson: it should
Donald Troyer: but
Antonio Thompson: be a shna
Donald Troyer: it's an
Antonio Thompson: snake
Donald Troyer: animal
Antonio Thompson: or something.
Donald Troyer: it's an
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Donald Troyer: animal
Antonio Thompson: Okay
Donald Troyer: that lives
Antonio Thompson: okay.
Donald Troyer: in the water.
Herbert Red: The
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Donald Troyer: So I
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Donald Troyer: first uh draw the water.
Herbert Red: water is important.
Donald Troyer: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal.
Donald Troyer: It's a fish.
Antonio Thompson: Okay,
Edgar Teal: Wow.
Antonio Thompson: cool.
Donald Troyer: Mm-hmm.
Donald Troyer: So. Um This is a worm.
Antonio Thompson: Hmm yeah, that's nice.
Edgar Teal: Wow.
Donald Troyer: Okay, who next?
Antonio Thompson: Uh
Donald Troyer: Uh
Antonio Thompson: do you have to write down why uh that doesn't matter, just it's to get used to the whiteboard, but it's okay.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Just make a new blank new blank page.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Well Paul?
Herbert Red: Yeah. Like this?
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, not too far to the to the t pen top.
Herbert Red: Okay. Um let's make it um a dog.
Herbert Red: Ooh.
Antonio Thompson: Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back, so that no, to the yeah.
Donald Troyer: I
Herbert Red: Ah
Donald Troyer: think
Herbert Red: okay.
Donald Troyer: it's a pig.
Herbert Red: A pig? I
Antonio Thompson: No,
Herbert Red: can
Donald Troyer: Or
Antonio Thompson: it's
Herbert Red: make.
Donald Troyer: a
Antonio Thompson: a
Donald Troyer: dog.
Antonio Thompson: dog.
Donald Troyer: A sheep?
Herbert Red: Um
Antonio Thompson: Uh we d only have twenty five minutes, so.
Edgar Teal: Take it easy.
Herbert Red: 'Kay, I make a cat of it.
Edgar Teal: I I was gonna make a cat too.
Antonio Thompson: Use your fantasy.
Herbert Red: Oh, not too quick.
Antonio Thompson: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have
Herbert Red: No I have it.
Antonio Thompson: okay.
Herbert Red: I just draw too quick I think. Okay, that's it. More.
Antonio Thompson: No, that's okay, thank you.
Herbert Red: It's just to get used to it.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: I thought these pens would be just um uh you write it down and you download it to Word, you already did it or no?
Donald Troyer: No.
Antonio Thompson: No, not yet,
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: okay.
Herbert Red: that's right, it but
Antonio Thompson: But
Herbert Red: you
Antonio Thompson: it's
Herbert Red: actually
Antonio Thompson: just
Herbert Red: got to write on the paper.
Antonio Thompson: Sorry?
Herbert Red: You really got to write on that
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, I
Herbert Red: paper.
Antonio Thompson: know, but
Donald Troyer: Yeah yeah,
Antonio Thompson: I
Donald Troyer: it's
Antonio Thompson: d I
Donald Troyer: a real pen.
Antonio Thompson: I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: Word, so
Herbert Red: but it's
Antonio Thompson: that's
Herbert Red: just
Antonio Thompson: not
Herbert Red: a picture.
Antonio Thompson: just it's just a picture.
Donald Troyer: Oh.
Antonio Thompson: So
Herbert Red: You
Donald Troyer: Y
Herbert Red: really
Donald Troyer: you can
Antonio Thompson: th thought it would be.
Donald Troyer: you can't edit in the edit it in Word.
Herbert Red: No.
Antonio Thompson: No.
Donald Troyer: Oh, okay.
Herbert Red: It's a donkey.
Antonio Thompson: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure.
Herbert Red: Uh I think it was uh
Antonio Thompson: Half past.
Donald Troyer: Half past ten.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Donald Troyer: Brilliant.
Antonio Thompson: Okay,
Edgar Teal: Nice,
Antonio Thompson: perfect.
Edgar Teal: eh?
Donald Troyer: Yep.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so.
Antonio Thompson: Oh this is definitely the best one.
Edgar Teal: Uh.
Antonio Thompson: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros.
Edgar Teal: Excuse
Antonio Thompson: Okay,
Edgar Teal: Donald Troyer.
Antonio Thompson: that's. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe.
Herbert Red: Piece of cake.
Antonio Thompson: The production cost are about half the price of selling price, sorry.
Herbert Red: Uh easy.
Antonio Thompson: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything, so just have a look how it we think about remote controls.
Donald Troyer: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control?
Antonio Thompson: Oh yeah, that's a good question.
Donald Troyer: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart.
Antonio Thompson: I think it's I'm not
Donald Troyer: So
Antonio Thompson: I'm
Donald Troyer: I
Antonio Thompson: not sure, it's not mm
Edgar Teal: Yeah, it probably
Antonio Thompson: I think
Edgar Teal: would be universal.
Herbert Red: Universal.
Donald Troyer: Because
Herbert Red: And only television? Or more devices?
Antonio Thompson: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so not sure, but
Edgar Teal: Hmm, maybe,
Donald Troyer: Yeah, I know
Edgar Teal: I don't
Donald Troyer: uh
Edgar Teal: know.
Donald Troyer: you can buy a re a universal uh control
Antonio Thompson: Okay,
Donald Troyer: for
Antonio Thompson: so
Donald Troyer: uh
Antonio Thompson: we we just
Donald Troyer: only twenty
Antonio Thompson: say we
Donald Troyer: uh
Antonio Thompson: just
Donald Troyer: Euros
Antonio Thompson: say that's universal remote
Donald Troyer: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: control.
Herbert Red: Ah
Donald Troyer: I
Herbert Red: okay.
Donald Troyer: think.
Antonio Thompson: Okay, perfect.
Edgar Teal: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, everything just
Edgar Teal: okay.
Antonio Thompson: so a lot of buttons on the remote control.
Edgar Teal: Yeah, probably.
Herbert Red: Not just a T_V_.
Antonio Thompson: No, just everything.
Herbert Red: Okay.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: so yeah, what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not nothing very special, but um
Herbert Red: Well we can try to make it special.
Antonio Thompson: yeah, that's right. So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability
Herbert Red: Well
Donald Troyer: Well I
Antonio Thompson: or
Donald Troyer: th
Antonio Thompson: user
Donald Troyer: I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared
Antonio Thompson: Hmm yeah.
Donald Troyer: uh thing must be from very good quality.
Antonio Thompson: That's right. Should be a good point.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Herbert Red: Nothing
Edgar Teal: And how
Herbert Red: N
Edgar Teal: big should
Donald Troyer: No.
Edgar Teal: it be?
Donald Troyer: Yeah. I dunno um
Herbert Red: It shouldn't be too big, but I don't think we can make it too small, 'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so.
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.
Antonio Thompson: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: that's it.
Herbert Red: Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: it opem.
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer,
Donald Troyer: Yes
Herbert Red: maybe more trendy.
Antonio Thompson: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can
Herbert Red: Fold
Antonio Thompson: fold
Herbert Red: open,
Antonio Thompson: open.
Herbert Red: where
Antonio Thompson: Okay,
Herbert Red: you can see
Antonio Thompson: yeah, that's
Herbert Red: uh
Antonio Thompson: cool.
Herbert Red: more options.
Donald Troyer: Ah that's
Herbert Red: I
Edgar Teal: Yeah
Antonio Thompson: Maybe
Herbert Red: think
Donald Troyer: that's
Antonio Thompson: for
Edgar Teal: n
Antonio Thompson: the D_V_D_ pla player or something,
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: if
Herbert Red: something
Antonio Thompson: you just
Herbert Red: uh
Antonio Thompson: okay.
Donald Troyer: Ah
Edgar Teal: Yeah,
Donald Troyer: right
Herbert Red: on
Edgar Teal: or
Herbert Red: top,
Edgar Teal: you c
Herbert Red: just dren
Donald Troyer: right.
Herbert Red: general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Oh
Edgar Teal: O or
Donald Troyer: that's good,
Edgar Teal: you could
Donald Troyer: yeah.
Edgar Teal: th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control.
Herbert Red: Yeah b
Donald Troyer: Yeah.
Herbert Red: I wanted
Antonio Thompson: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control?
Edgar Teal: Uh
Antonio Thompson: There are buttons
Edgar Teal: maybe
Antonio Thompson: on
Edgar Teal: be
Antonio Thompson: it.
Edgar Teal: uh
Herbert Red: No
Edgar Teal: it's
Herbert Red: you can
Edgar Teal: it's
Herbert Red: make an uh manual in it.
Edgar Teal: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Donald Troyer: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: But it's
Donald Troyer: but
Antonio Thompson: not
Herbert Red: But
Edgar Teal: Uh
Antonio Thompson: t t
Edgar Teal: like
Antonio Thompson: t
Herbert Red: that's
Antonio Thompson: too expensive
Edgar Teal: a a to
Antonio Thompson: to
Edgar Teal: have
Antonio Thompson: put a
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: touchscreen
Herbert Red: I
Donald Troyer: Yeah
Herbert Red: think
Antonio Thompson: on
Edgar Teal: Yeah,
Herbert Red: it's
Antonio Thompson: it.
Herbert Red: much
Donald Troyer: but
Edgar Teal: maybe it
Herbert Red: uh
Edgar Teal: would.
Herbert Red: too
Donald Troyer: it's
Herbert Red: expensive.
Donald Troyer: not reachable I think, touch screen. And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control,
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: it get
Antonio Thompson: So.
Donald Troyer: often uh broken.
Antonio Thompson: And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: too
Donald Troyer: Yeah
Herbert Red: too
Antonio Thompson: fragile
Herbert Red: fragile.
Donald Troyer: and a
Antonio Thompson: uh
Donald Troyer: lots
Antonio Thompson: fragile.
Donald Troyer: uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh
Antonio Thompson: No.
Donald Troyer: kids uh
Antonio Thompson: You can put games
Edgar Teal: Kid-proof.
Antonio Thompson: on your remote control. Whatever.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Um
Edgar Teal: And uh how about the batteries? Uh should you put it in a recharger or a
Antonio Thompson: Oh maybe
Donald Troyer: Ma
Antonio Thompson: that's
Edgar Teal: just
Antonio Thompson: a good idea,
Donald Troyer: maybe
Antonio Thompson: just to
Donald Troyer: a
Antonio Thompson: put
Donald Troyer: home
Antonio Thompson: it on
Donald Troyer: station.
Antonio Thompson: your
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: television and just s recharge, you
Edgar Teal: Mm
Antonio Thompson: never
Edgar Teal: yeah.
Antonio Thompson: have to use any
Herbert Red: Maybe
Antonio Thompson: batteries.
Herbert Red: that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, how
Donald Troyer: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: m how mu how how expensive
Edgar Teal: Yeah, I dunno.
Antonio Thompson: uh is a normal recharger?
Herbert Red: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger?
Antonio Thompson: I dunno.
Edgar Teal: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone
Donald Troyer: Ah
Edgar Teal: it's
Donald Troyer: yeah.
Edgar Teal: probably expensive, but I don't know what the project uh projection
Herbert Red: Maybe
Edgar Teal: costs
Herbert Red: have
Edgar Teal: are
Herbert Red: uh
Edgar Teal: for such
Antonio Thompson: Uh
Edgar Teal: a
Antonio Thompson: if
Edgar Teal: thing.
Antonio Thompson: you th look at the market, it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: it's too expensive.
Herbert Red: 'cause
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: well
Donald Troyer: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is, and now
Antonio Thompson: Yeah,
Donald Troyer: you can put
Antonio Thompson: that's
Donald Troyer: it always
Antonio Thompson: right,
Donald Troyer: at the same
Antonio Thompson: yeah.
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: place.
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive.
Herbert Red: Maybe uh use it as a separate option.
Donald Troyer: Yeah.
Herbert Red: Sell it uh separately.
Donald Troyer: You can yeah, you can buy it with
Edgar Teal: Yeah,
Donald Troyer: it.
Edgar Teal: but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh
Herbert Red: Rechargeable.
Edgar Teal: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Edgar Teal: just put it in the station, or you can change your batteries,
Donald Troyer: Oh yeah.
Edgar Teal: so.
Antonio Thompson: The option, just the option, that's
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: cool.
Donald Troyer: Uh I I set something on paper already, size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top,
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: uh it
Herbert Red: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: has to lay good in the hand, you you have to uh
Antonio Thompson: Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different
Donald Troyer: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: form
Donald Troyer: I don't
Antonio Thompson: than
Donald Troyer: I
Antonio Thompson: a normal
Donald Troyer: don't know
Antonio Thompson: remote control
Donald Troyer: I don't
Antonio Thompson: or
Herbert Red: Well
Donald Troyer: know if
Herbert Red: I think
Donald Troyer: we
Herbert Red: we have to look at that, 'cause well you can do the standard way, but then
Donald Troyer: You can
Herbert Red: you
Donald Troyer: make
Herbert Red: won't
Donald Troyer: it very special, to create our own
Antonio Thompson: Yeah
Donald Troyer: um looks, but it's very hard to
Edgar Teal: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works.
Donald Troyer: Nah.
Herbert Red: Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block,
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see. But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well.
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Herbert Red: So it
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Herbert Red: doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think, so you can do something unique with that.
Edgar Teal: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you can still uh do the
Donald Troyer: Yeah yeah, what
Edgar Teal: th the
Donald Troyer: Paul
Edgar Teal: functions.
Donald Troyer: already said. Uh
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, just
Donald Troyer: on
Antonio Thompson: for the
Donald Troyer: on
Edgar Teal: But
Donald Troyer: top
Antonio Thompson: T_V_
Donald Troyer: are the
Edgar Teal: n
Antonio Thompson: and just
Edgar Teal: yeah,
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: the normal
Edgar Teal: but
Donald Troyer: the
Antonio Thompson: function,
Herbert Red: yeah.
Donald Troyer: basic
Edgar Teal: uh
Antonio Thompson: that's
Donald Troyer: options
Antonio Thompson: fine.
Edgar Teal: i
Donald Troyer: on top, and
Edgar Teal: basically
Donald Troyer: if you fold it
Edgar Teal: when
Donald Troyer: open
Edgar Teal: I'm
Antonio Thompson: But
Edgar Teal: watching
Antonio Thompson: maybe
Edgar Teal: T_V_
Antonio Thompson: it's
Edgar Teal: I'm just using like five buttons or so,
Herbert Red: Yeah. That's
Edgar Teal: so.
Antonio Thompson: maybe it's
Herbert Red: what
Antonio Thompson: very
Herbert Red: I meant.
Antonio Thompson: hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called?
Donald Troyer: Mm. If you if
Herbert Red: Uh
Donald Troyer: if you make
Antonio Thompson: Maybe
Donald Troyer: to fold
Antonio Thompson: it's hard
Donald Troyer: open
Antonio Thompson: t
Donald Troyer: it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a
Antonio Thompson: No,
Donald Troyer: normal
Antonio Thompson: that's right. So
Donald Troyer: uh
Antonio Thompson: maybe
Donald Troyer: remote
Antonio Thompson: we have
Donald Troyer: control.
Antonio Thompson: to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control.
Herbert Red: Okay, but yeah.
Antonio Thompson: Just think
Edgar Teal: Yeah.
Antonio Thompson: about it. We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to what you have to do?
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah.
Donald Troyer: Um for m for Donald Troyer uh Donald Troyer, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the
Herbert Red: No, what you want to do with it.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Also from a user, but
Donald Troyer: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: all
Donald Troyer: it's also
Antonio Thompson: these things together.
Donald Troyer: about strength
Antonio Thompson: Yeah,
Herbert Red: Yeah,
Antonio Thompson: everything.
Donald Troyer: and
Herbert Red: I
Donald Troyer: uh
Herbert Red: also wrote down some
Donald Troyer: for
Herbert Red: stuff
Donald Troyer: everything
Herbert Red: that you want
Donald Troyer: uh.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah,
Herbert Red: on a
Antonio Thompson: no maybe not not uh, that's not a f that's something for for
Herbert Red: Technical
Antonio Thompson: for yeah.
Herbert Red: fun fu
Antonio Thompson: That's not for you.
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Just if what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of
Herbert Red: What
Antonio Thompson: uh buttons
Herbert Red: do you want
Antonio Thompson: do
Herbert Red: to
Antonio Thompson: you
Herbert Red: do
Antonio Thompson: have.
Herbert Red: with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control. I
Antonio Thompson: Yeah,
Herbert Red: already
Antonio Thompson: it's alright.
Herbert Red: wrote some down, some ideas.
Donald Troyer: Yep.
Antonio Thompson: Yeah, just is that okay?
Donald Troyer: Okay.
Herbert Red: Yep.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: Okay.
Herbert Red: There's already a document in the folder
Donald Troyer: Yeah,
Herbert Red: about
Donald Troyer: Donald Troyer too.
Herbert Red: it.
Antonio Thompson: So see you in thirty minutes.
Donald Troyer: Okay, well
Herbert Red: Okay.
Donald Troyer: done.
Edgar Teal: Okay.
Antonio Thompson: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so your laptop.
Herbert Red: I will.
Donald Troyer: Oh Paul.
Herbert Red: It didn't say that.
Antonio Thompson: No, sorry.
Herbert Red: Your fault.
Donald Troyer: Ciao.
Herbert Red: Bye bye.
Donald Troyer: Bye bye. | Antonio Thompson introduced himself and the project to the group. He presented an agenda for the rest of the project. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room materials by drawing on the board. Antonio Thompson discussed the projected price point, profit aim, and production cost for the project. The group discussed their initial ideas about the product design. They decided to make the remote a universal remote. They discussed the form of the device; it was suggested that the device could have a folding-open design or a touch-screen interface. They discussed energy source options and could not decide between using standard batteries or a recharging stand. They also discussed how to make the remote look more unique; it was suggested that the remote could feature the folding-open design to hide complicated functions on the inside of the device. Antonio Thompson instructed Donald Troyer to prepare the user requirement specification and to research which devices the remote will control. | 1 | amisum | test |
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Darrell Mccullen: Oh. Sorry.
Dennis Watson: Uh let's see. Which one was
Robert Lavette: So
Dennis Watson: mine?
Robert Lavette: let's have a look, we have forty minutes, so it's it's more than enough. Okay, perfect. So we have Oh no, what's that? So so we have uh forty minutes for this uh for this second meeting, and we have to
Dennis Watson: Good.
Robert Lavette: make uh sure that we going t that we are sure, that we are, that we know what we're going to make uh th what the product is going to like look like. Uh first I have the notes of the last meeting, so I showed uh show them to you. Oh, sorry about that, I just escape this one. How do I escape this?
Jessie Holt: What?
Robert Lavette: How do I I escape this s uh presentation?
Dennis Watson: Uh
Jessie Holt: Uh
Dennis Watson: left.
Robert Lavette: Ah okay.
Jessie Holt: Just
Dennis Watson: So
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: And show, sorry. Okay, so let's have a look s at this one. Okay, so the f the f the points we had last meeting was the um Should be a univ uh universal remote control No, that's I uh s I just got a email from the from the personal coach and it should be a T_V_ remote control only. So have you changed that part?
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Robert Lavette: Um so yeah, it still has to be uh f a r a remote control for kids and elderly. It's it's still the same. Um All these points uh we have to look at. You all know them. But uh there's another point. The um uh the main uh people of interest of this company are forty plus people. So they're old and not younger people. So we have to look at that as well. 'Specially old people, maybe bi bigger buttons or something, I dunno.
Dennis Watson: Yeah, okay.
Robert Lavette: Uh so So yeah, that's it, so just you can do your presentation for uh
Dennis Watson: Which one first?
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Robert Lavette: Oh it doesn't matter, just start with the
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm.
Darrell Mccullen: Uh
Dennis Watson: Functional requirements, yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay. Well my name is Jens Damman, but we're in a group, and I I will start it. Wait. Um I've used a marketing report on uh the site. Uh I think you've uh read it too. and uh f and furthermore I uh surfed the o the other site.
Robert Lavette: I I didn't read i read it, so it's not
Darrell Mccullen: You didn't
Robert Lavette: for Darrell Mccullen,
Darrell Mccullen: read it?
Robert Lavette: I didn't get
Dennis Watson: No,
Robert Lavette: it uh anyway.
Dennis Watson: I didn
Darrell Mccullen: Oh okay,
Robert Lavette: It's
Dennis Watson: don't
Robert Lavette: only
Dennis Watson: thing
Robert Lavette: for you.
Darrell Mccullen: I
Dennis Watson: we
Darrell Mccullen: I
Dennis Watson: got
Darrell Mccullen: was
Dennis Watson: it.
Darrell Mccullen: the only one who get it.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: Yes.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay it was uh uh uh um um a report about uh an experiment with uh a lot of users. And uh they had a lot of findings in their report uh with statistical uh uh uh thing uh with statistical uh proof. So I um I had three pages with findings and sev a lot of uh a lot of findings. So we can use this uh to uh create our own remote control. Uh seventy five percent of the users find uh most remote controls ugly. Yeah, I think uh uh that's a lot, so we have to make a beautiful remote control. Uh eighty percent of users would spend when uh a remote control will l uh look fancy. I think this fits uh at the uh what what uh Michael said about uh older people. Older people will uh spend more money uh for uh something uh uh what's good. Because younger people are more critical uh about uh uh where they spend their money money at. Uh seventy five percent uh seventy five percent of the users say they zap a lot. Well okay, that's uh normal. I think uh we we have to make uh good zap buttons. But that's one of our requirements.
Robert Lavette: The last point is quite an interesting
Darrell Mccullen: Yes, fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. Um Martijn
Robert Lavette: So if
Darrell Mccullen: alr
Robert Lavette: we
Darrell Mccullen: already said it.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: And uh maybe our uh fold open system is is a good one, but I don't think it's uh
Robert Lavette: Yeah, we should have the ten percent
Darrell Mccullen: reachable.
Robert Lavette: on the on the top, then you're you're
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, the ten percent on the
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: top, yeah. That that's a good one. Um uh page two. Remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. That's exactly what we said about um maybe a home station for uh for it uh to uh recharge the batteries or something. Uh I thought mo maybe we could make a clap system, so when you clap your hands it will beep or something. Uh you must find it
Dennis Watson: Uh.
Darrell Mccullen: uh quickly.
Dennis Watson: Maybe just a button on the home station. So remote control beeps when you click that button on the home station.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay, yeah. Yeah, we can uh combine that. Uh it takes too much time to learn how to use a r new remote control. Uh I think we must t uh take a look at this. It's only uh th thirty four of the thirty four percent. But it's uh a tough one. Because if we make a ha whole new product, our own style, we we c uh this is so difficult, uh a difficulty I think. Uh next, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. Yeah, but only if they zap a lot, and they watch over five hours T_V_ or something. I don't We we haven't Uh we mustn't look too much at uh the last point. Okay, last page. Uh the last uh experiment uh was about gadgets, like uh speech recognition. We didn't uh think about that already. And uh an L_C_D_ on the remote control. We already thought about that. Um uh they finally had a conclusion that younger people um uh under an age of f forty five are uh more interested in new features. And but they're more critical. And older people uh want to spend uh more money. But uh they uh they don't want to uh have a lot of uh new features, because they're in their old uh thinking way. And they want to keep the old uh things the old things.
Robert Lavette: So we have uh a new uh age
Darrell Mccullen: But
Robert Lavette: of forty
Darrell Mccullen: y But you
Robert Lavette: plus.
Darrell Mccullen: but you already said that the uh company was about uh forty plus uh
Robert Lavette: People. So
Darrell Mccullen: clients?
Robert Lavette: yeah, so we just can skip the L_C_D_
Darrell Mccullen: I
Robert Lavette: r on the remote
Darrell Mccullen: I
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: think
Robert Lavette: control,
Darrell Mccullen: we
Robert Lavette: because
Darrell Mccullen: can speak, uh we can skip speech recognition uh directly, because
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: it's not
Robert Lavette: It's
Darrell Mccullen: reachable
Robert Lavette: too
Darrell Mccullen: for
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: twenty five Euros.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: Um then I have my personal uh preference. Okay, that's not very good, because I thought about television, D_V_D_ player, stereo and V_C_R_. I had a question about. But it's already out of the question, this. Um my point is, well, I If we ma uh make a a remote uh control for only television, I think it's hard to uh sell it for twenty five Euros. But it's the exercise.
Robert Lavette: Because it's too expensive.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: only
Robert Lavette: probably.
Darrell Mccullen: only for television uh On the market you can now buy for twenty Euros a remote control for everything. And we only make it for television, so we mi mm we m must made it make it uh very special.
Dennis Watson: Yeah, but good usability, you can use it.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay, I told about the home station. Uh it must be simple, because uh our the the elderly people uh needs to use it. And I I found a motto. And we put the fashion in electronics. And that's uh the motto we are uh referenced to uh for our uh our style We. we have to make a a new product. We have to be um Yeah. One of a kind, I think.
Robert Lavette: So it has to look uh uh
Dennis Watson: Unique.
Robert Lavette: uh unique,
Darrell Mccullen: The company is
Robert Lavette: but
Darrell Mccullen: about our uh th th their own fashion, their own style.
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: I reckon
Robert Lavette: But old people are not looking for that.
Dennis Watson: Uh I think
Robert Lavette: Not
Dennis Watson: mm
Robert Lavette: really.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: Uh
Jessie Holt: I think the main thing is the usability, that's where we can uh
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: make it
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: a special product.
Darrell Mccullen: to
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: k to keep it simple
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: when
Dennis Watson: But
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: you Sorry
Dennis Watson: uh
Darrell Mccullen: I thought
Dennis Watson: we
Darrell Mccullen: about
Dennis Watson: also
Darrell Mccullen: it, yes.
Dennis Watson: have to stand out, 'cause there are already, like you said, so many controls out that support lot of stuff. But we have to make sure that we're better usability, and stand out by just looks of it. So make it just a different colour or different shape,
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: so
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay, this was uh my presentation.
Robert Lavette: Thanks.
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: I don't Yeah.
Robert Lavette: So Paul,
Darrell Mccullen: You can
Robert Lavette: you
Darrell Mccullen: ask
Robert Lavette: can
Darrell Mccullen: some
Robert Lavette: do
Darrell Mccullen: questions
Robert Lavette: the next one if you want.
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: or something.
Dennis Watson: Yeah well Uh.
Robert Lavette: It's on the on the uh net net
Dennis Watson: There
Robert Lavette: uh
Dennis Watson: it is.
Robert Lavette: thing, isn't it?
Dennis Watson: Okay. Technical functions design. Okay, well, so we have s mm uh broad audience. Isn't that isn't true anymore. But um we have elderly people, so we need to keep it simple. Uh the way I want to keep it simple is to use the sen uh standard. So standardised uh methods like uh on all uh remote controls. Not too full, like uh Jens already said, only ten percent is being used.
Robert Lavette: So what do you think of only the numbers and the on-off button or
Dennis Watson: Yeah, I have it on the next page. But
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: yes uh basic functions like numbers and that sort of stuff. Um so the options that we put on there should be easy to use, and 'cause you have more room then, and for elderly people big buttons. Uh an icon on it or text on it, so it's very clear what that buttons does. So it doesn't take much time to figure out uh how to use it. Um a way to find out uh what people use is maybe just to use uh questionnaires on the internet or just ask some random people, elderly people what they use, what they want on a remote control
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: to find out. But there is already in a one done. Of functions I could think of. Uh volume, channels, the the basic according to. Just one two three etcetera. Uh text service options. Um basic on-off. And I found an uh Could I think of favourites? I always look up the same um pages on text and always have to click the number.
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: But if you could make a new option, that you just have to press one button and you get on your
Jessie Holt: Yeah, but then you have to remember what favourite is what channel. So you might as well remember the number. Or not?
Dennis Watson: No
Robert Lavette: Maybe
Dennis Watson: y
Robert Lavette: i maybe it's too complicated, but not sure.
Dennis Watson: Well
Robert Lavette: It's a good
Dennis Watson: it's
Robert Lavette: idea,
Dennis Watson: It
Robert Lavette: but
Dennis Watson: was just a thought. So I'm, I u I would find it handy, I think, when you just press one button and you get on six six six.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, okay. But um can you remember what uh channel uh connects to what
Dennis Watson: Well
Jessie Holt: favourite
Dennis Watson: uh
Jessie Holt: button?
Robert Lavette: Uh
Dennis Watson: what I was reading on the page. Uh a remote control just sends commands, basics commands to uh the television. So switch to channel six.
Jessie Holt: Yeah?
Dennis Watson: So uh button six says says six. And if you make favourites, it can say six six six in a row. Just numbers. That
Jessie Holt: Yeah
Dennis Watson: can
Jessie Holt: okay.
Dennis Watson: be
Jessie Holt: But
Dennis Watson: in
Jessie Holt: uh
Dennis Watson: the
Jessie Holt: uh
Dennis Watson: in the
Jessie Holt: for a user to to remember, if I press that button it goes to that channel.
Dennis Watson: Well if you said a favourite
Jessie Holt: Yeah, but isn't it hard to remember? Like favourite one and
Robert Lavette: Uh
Dennis Watson: Well
Robert Lavette: mayb
Dennis Watson: i
Jessie Holt: Mm
Robert Lavette: for Darrell Mccullen it's
Jessie Holt: as
Robert Lavette: If
Jessie Holt: as
Robert Lavette: I
Jessie Holt: hard
Robert Lavette: use my telephone,
Jessie Holt: as
Robert Lavette: I never use those buttons to to to call
Dennis Watson: Never?
Robert Lavette: sh Never.
Jessie Holt: No, neither
Dennis Watson: Oh.
Jessie Holt: do I.
Dennis Watson: Oh
Robert Lavette: So
Dennis Watson: are you?
Robert Lavette: And
Dennis Watson: Okay now, m maybe not.
Robert Lavette: If I don't do it, maybe old people
Dennis Watson: No, maybe elderly people uh.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, I
Dennis Watson: Right.
Jessie Holt: dunno.
Dennis Watson: They don't like new features. So maybe not.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm-hmm.
Dennis Watson: Um well play, pause. I dunno if that's usable
Robert Lavette: It's not, it's
Dennis Watson: when
Robert Lavette: still not It's not anymore n
Dennis Watson: Not
Robert Lavette: uh
Dennis Watson: anymore for T_V_. Right, on off. I dunno, miss Did I miss any other buttons, basic buttons?
Darrell Mccullen: Um
Dennis Watson: I couldn't think of any other, 'specially not for T_V_.
Robert Lavette: Just on the front as well. No, that's the only th the only thing you need.
Dennis Watson: Is
Jessie Holt: Uh uh the p uh next and previous. Previous I know, but next channel?
Dennis Watson: Just the
Jessie Holt: I
Dennis Watson: channel
Jessie Holt: don't thi
Dennis Watson: um uh What I mean is
Darrell Mccullen: Forward.
Dennis Watson: uh
Jessie Holt: Li like a web
Dennis Watson: Six
Jessie Holt: browser,
Dennis Watson: seven
Jessie Holt: so
Dennis Watson: eight
Jessie Holt: Oh, okay.
Dennis Watson: or
Robert Lavette: Just
Dennis Watson: five.
Jessie Holt: But
Robert Lavette: very
Jessie Holt: uh
Robert Lavette: simple.
Jessie Holt: um there's also a button to uh go to the channel you've been before. Like a web browser back
Dennis Watson: Um
Jessie Holt: button.
Dennis Watson: I dunno.
Robert Lavette: Uh
Dennis Watson: I don't have Uh
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: I
Robert Lavette: I
Dennis Watson: did
Robert Lavette: know what it is, but I think it's all
Darrell Mccullen: No.
Robert Lavette: too difficult
Dennis Watson: Yeah, I don't
Robert Lavette: for old
Dennis Watson: think you
Robert Lavette: people.
Dennis Watson: use
Darrell Mccullen: Uh
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: that. Y only
Jessie Holt: okay.
Dennis Watson: when you want to go to Yeah, just use uh when you wanna switch between channels all the time.
Robert Lavette: And
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: how do you want to uh do it, like if you have a channel above ten? Normally you can press one,
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: zero
Dennis Watson: I think
Robert Lavette: or
Dennis Watson: um f Especially for older peo elderly people use standard buttons. So you have that uh
Robert Lavette: A ten plus or
Dennis Watson: Yeah, the ten plus button. Just uh one one pressing, or quickly after each other.
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: To just keep it simple and standard uh features.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, w wouldn't it be a problem to uh Because you h have to be fast enough. Maybe the elderly people
Dennis Watson: Uh yeah mayb
Darrell Mccullen: It gets some seconds.
Dennis Watson: But I think that's in the T_V_ as well. That's how the uh the T_V_ T_V_ handles it. But you can have a button that says um two
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: Oh
Darrell Mccullen: it's
Jessie Holt: okay.
Darrell Mccullen: it's no
Dennis Watson: two st
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: it's
Dennis Watson: two
Darrell Mccullen: not
Dennis Watson: stripes.
Darrell Mccullen: a
Dennis Watson: So you have uh like a
Jessie Holt: Yeah, but
Dennis Watson: five
Jessie Holt: that's
Dennis Watson: seconds
Jessie Holt: th mm
Dennis Watson: period to press those two buttons.
Darrell Mccullen: It's what Paul says. It's not a remote control uh uh that um uh makes the T_V_ um do one two. It's the T_V_ who depends that it must
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: be two seconds or three seconds or one second that you must uh type one
Dennis Watson: So if
Darrell Mccullen: or
Dennis Watson: you
Darrell Mccullen: two.
Dennis Watson: have a
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: universal T_V_ controller, you needed one button that has two uh stripes.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: So we have a a period of, I dunno, five seconds to press those buttons, and that
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: And not for elderly people to look, one two uh press and aim and
Robert Lavette: But do we still need a two level remote control? Because if we only have
Darrell Mccullen: It's
Robert Lavette: that
Darrell Mccullen: only
Robert Lavette: l
Darrell Mccullen: for television now.
Dennis Watson: So
Robert Lavette: only
Dennis Watson: I I
Robert Lavette: f
Dennis Watson: don't think so.
Robert Lavette: No.
Darrell Mccullen: No.
Dennis Watson: Uh I just thought of another one. Most things in modern T_V_s are also on the menu.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: So you also need a menu button. And then uh navigation uh But we can
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: integrate that with volume and previous and next, so you have
Jessie Holt: I I think you ha
Dennis Watson: four
Jessie Holt: really
Dennis Watson: arrows.
Jessie Holt: have to divide between functions you often use, like um uh m maybe uh switch channels and uh volume and k that kind of things, and uh the menu button. Because you n almost never use menu button.
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: So
Dennis Watson: okay, but um
Robert Lavette: Maybe it's still still a good idea, I'm not sure. You'll also have to use a mute button to to
Dennis Watson: mute button. Yes.
Robert Lavette: Maybe,
Dennis Watson: Don't think
Robert Lavette: not
Dennis Watson: so.
Robert Lavette: I don't know where where you have to put it.
Dennis Watson: Yeah well, that's that's I think that's the layers that produce. Now I have to figure out what's uh what to put on.
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: What we're
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: gonna use.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Robert Lavette: That's right.
Dennis Watson: And later we can d uh do the design. Okay, uh now my personal preferences. Uh using the standards, basic Um I think that we should stand out uh unique, being unique with the design. So we have to, I dunno, uh make a different shape than usual. So when you are in the shop and you see our T_V_ controller hanging, that it stands out. Not just in in the row when you see all the same uh remote controls.
Robert Lavette: Yeah. Does
Dennis Watson: Um
Robert Lavette: it have to be Uh it has to be uh with different colours or
Dennis Watson: I dunno. Different colours um
Darrell Mccullen: Maybe we can give it out in different colours. You can choose blue
Robert Lavette: It's like
Darrell Mccullen: or
Robert Lavette: a
Darrell Mccullen: yellow
Robert Lavette: iMac
Darrell Mccullen: or
Robert Lavette: or something. Just to
Jessie Holt: Mm-hmm.
Robert Lavette: make it
Dennis Watson: Yeah. Well why not? Or
Darrell Mccullen: That's
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: fa That's fancy. That's uh fashion.
Robert Lavette: But it looks cheap as well, because it's a small thing. It's only twenty five Euros. It looks very cheap if you make it
Dennis Watson: Well, maybe you can look at uh mobile phones.
Robert Lavette: Oh, you just I dunno
Dennis Watson: Oh.
Robert Lavette: what happened.
Dennis Watson: Who?
Robert Lavette: Yeah, we have to look at mobile phones, that's right.
Dennis Watson: They
Robert Lavette: Just
Dennis Watson: they're uh designed very well. And
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: well basically are the same, just a bit smaller. You think you can't make a T_V_ controller too small, 'cause then you will always lo always lose it.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: But uh well, I think that's a good example.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Robert Lavette: Okay, we hurry up a bit, because otherwise
Dennis Watson: Okay,
Robert Lavette: we won't make
Dennis Watson: sorry.
Robert Lavette: it. Is
Dennis Watson: Well
Robert Lavette: it fin Are you finished?
Dennis Watson: uh
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: Yeah, I I'm finished. I think we discussed everything.
Jessie Holt: Okay. Well, the working design. The method I used is uh search the web. Just the web page provided. Um Basically I'm I'm not very technical uh uh educated, but uh I could figure it out. Um basically what happens is you press a button, uh then a circuit gets closed by pressing the button, uh like a switch. And by closing that certain circuit, the chip knows uh what bu button is pressed. So like you press a one, that circuit is closed and uh Then the chip produces a pattern. Like a Morse code to uh And and sends that to the uh L_E_D_. That's the uh light emitting diode, I think. Um and the light emitting diode is uh producing infrared light. That's un uh invisible to the human eye. And uh transmit that uh to the T_V_. However it has also an uh a visible uh diode that's uh blinking red if you look in it.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm-hmm.
Jessie Holt: And that's uh another diode, I believe. Because infrared is not visible. So that's er uh do two different
Robert Lavette: So
Jessie Holt: things but
Robert Lavette: also have to have a LED li
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: LED
Jessie Holt: I I think
Robert Lavette: light
Jessie Holt: so.
Robert Lavette: on it?
Dennis Watson: Uh j
Jessie Holt: I I'm not sure if
Dennis Watson: Is
Jessie Holt: it's the
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: same
Robert Lavette: it's
Jessie Holt: thing.
Robert Lavette: I think
Dennis Watson: Ain't
Robert Lavette: it's
Dennis Watson: it
Robert Lavette: usable.
Dennis Watson: just to to indicate that it's
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: transmitting?
Darrell Mccullen: that's active.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: So
Robert Lavette: Or just a green one, because it's If you use it, it's green or the red, it's r green.
Dennis Watson: Yeah. Maybe uh
Darrell Mccullen: I I think it's in the case that it's active. It's not uh
Jessie Holt: Yeah, when
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: you
Robert Lavette: that's
Jessie Holt: press
Robert Lavette: right. But
Jessie Holt: it.
Robert Lavette: if you
Jessie Holt: So
Darrell Mccullen: I it's it's just uh the the
Jessie Holt: Two?
Robert Lavette: Red's l shows up like something's wrong, and green is like it's okay, you press
Darrell Mccullen: Mm.
Robert Lavette: the button.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, I dunno.
Dennis Watson: Maybe
Jessie Holt: Ma on
Dennis Watson: depends
Jessie Holt: on most
Dennis Watson: on uh
Jessie Holt: on most uh uh remote controls it's red.
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: So
Robert Lavette: I
Dennis Watson: Yes.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: know. Okay, we make it red.
Jessie Holt: So
Dennis Watson: But maybe
Jessie Holt: I know.
Dennis Watson: Well we don't have to make it red. Maybe integrate it in the design as well.
Robert Lavette: You have to The whole the whole uh remote control becomes uh green if you press the buttons. Uh that's cool.
Dennis Watson: Uh Oh, maybe it's it is would an
Jessie Holt: I
Dennis Watson: e
Jessie Holt: I
Dennis Watson: No.
Jessie Holt: think uh the batteries will
Dennis Watson: Just
Jessie Holt: be
Dennis Watson: uh
Jessie Holt: uh a
Robert Lavette: No, we have
Jessie Holt: little
Robert Lavette: a recharger
Darrell Mccullen: Empty.
Robert Lavette: in it,
Dennis Watson: Oh.
Robert Lavette: so
Jessie Holt: Yeah, okay. Uh
Robert Lavette: If
Jessie Holt: maybe.
Robert Lavette: we can still make that then
Dennis Watson: Yeah, but it doesn't have to be red. It's just to indicate something's
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: on.
Jessie Holt: Yeah. That it's working. That it's not
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: not the
Robert Lavette: But
Jessie Holt: batteries
Robert Lavette: it's cool
Dennis Watson: It's
Jessie Holt: are
Robert Lavette: if
Jessie Holt: low.
Robert Lavette: it was
Dennis Watson: it's
Robert Lavette: green.
Dennis Watson: not very important,
Robert Lavette: Green or
Dennis Watson: so
Robert Lavette: red or whatever, it
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: is cool.
Dennis Watson: yeah.
Jessie Holt: I know. Just to indicate it's working.
Dennis Watson: So mm
Jessie Holt: And uh the receptor in the T_V_ senses the pattern. So we have to understand what patterns are used to, you know, to make it universal. So that it can be used with all the T_V_s. We have to really understand what patterns are used, so we can uh o On the Otherwise it won't work.
Dennis Watson: So we have to uh make buttons for that as well, to make
Jessie Holt: No.
Dennis Watson: it
Jessie Holt: I
Dennis Watson: uh
Jessie Holt: I uh The chip um uh is producing the pattern. So we have to make a chip that produces patterns to,
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Jessie Holt: y you know, to
Darrell Mccullen: An automatically
Jessie Holt: Yeah. That are
Darrell Mccullen: search
Jessie Holt: working.
Darrell Mccullen: function for each television, or
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: something.
Jessie Holt: or I dunno how it's uh exactly how it works. It wasn't explained there.
Dennis Watson: Well,
Darrell Mccullen: Uh I
Dennis Watson: I
Darrell Mccullen: kno
Dennis Watson: I use a universal uh remote control, and list of all the T_V_s you have, etcetera. And you have to put in a number,
Jessie Holt: Yeah?
Dennis Watson: so it works on your T_V_.
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: Oh, I have a modern one. And the modern one you you uh you type uh search, and the LED began to blink blink blink. And uh uh uh after uh a short time the television turns off. And then you know, oh it it's the right one. And you can stop it, and then it's okay.
Jessie Holt: Ah okay.
Darrell Mccullen: So you don't have to search for your television or your code.
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: It uh search uh the pattern for itself.
Jessie Holt: Okay,
Dennis Watson: Okay,
Jessie Holt: yeah.
Dennis Watson: so we use that.
Jessie Holt: So it uh We have to make a a s a bit more intelligent chip than the standard one.
Darrell Mccullen: Yes.
Jessie Holt: Because
Dennis Watson: Yep.
Jessie Holt: you have to Yeah.
Robert Lavette: I just say Can you s just say it again, because I was just looking
Jessie Holt: Uh
Robert Lavette: There's
Jessie Holt: okay.
Robert Lavette: just a short
Jessie Holt: Well uh y you have this chip.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: That's uh when the circuit is closed,
Robert Lavette: Mm-hmm.
Jessie Holt: it produces the pattern. But uh ma basically for uh brands of T_V_ these patterns are different. So like when you press a one on one T_V_ it go go to one. And on the other T_V_ it won't work, basically. So uh basically what you have to do is uh get these patterns right.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: And uh by d uh that can be done by uh just uh
Darrell Mccullen: Changing the
Jessie Holt: cha
Darrell Mccullen: signal.
Jessie Holt: yeah, changing this pattern all the time. And um What he's doing when he's configuring this pattern, this chip, uh is trying to switch off the television. And when it's uh switched off, you can push a button as uh it's working now, so And then he saves that setting
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Jessie Holt: and
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: then um it's working.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, that's the right uh
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Darrell Mccullen: option.
Jessie Holt: Well uh the components. Yeah, that's a bit technical, and I hadn't I w I was a little short on time. Um but I think I understand it Um. the energy source is uh the battery, basically.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Um that's connecting to all the components. Because it has to be fed with energy. Okay. Uh the subcomponent is uh w I I think it is uh the button pressed. So basically when you press a button, a switch get closed. Um that's connecting to a chip. So the chip knows what button you pressed. And the chip sends out uh the pattern to the infrared bulb. I didn didn't put the description by this one. Th this is a normal bulb. So the normal flashing light.
Robert Lavette: Okay. So that's the LED,
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: L_E_D_.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, and this is a LED too. But this one is producing infrared light
Robert Lavette: Yeah, okay.
Jessie Holt: that's invisible. And this one is producing normal light.
Robert Lavette: So we can make the normal one also a normal light. Not a LED light, but as a normal one.
Jessie Holt: Yeah
Robert Lavette: To flash up your
Darrell Mccullen: Uh if you if you use the buttons, uh both of them works. But one you can't see and one indicates that you use a button.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, presu Yeah yeah yeah. Because uh when you button press a button and it doesn't work, it can Basically if the battery is low, it
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: won't work.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: So
Darrell Mccullen: and
Jessie Holt: you have to indicate that it's
Robert Lavette: Maybe you have to uh put uh a small light around the button you push. So you see green if you push that button.
Jessie Holt: Huh,
Darrell Mccullen: Mm I
Jessie Holt: that's
Darrell Mccullen: think
Jessie Holt: a good
Darrell Mccullen: it's
Jessie Holt: idea.
Darrell Mccullen: unnecessary power uh you use then.
Robert Lavette: Yeah, but if you
Dennis Watson: No,
Robert Lavette: u if
Dennis Watson: y
Robert Lavette: you do that, you
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: know that you're uh sending a signal.
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Robert Lavette: And it's you
Darrell Mccullen: But
Robert Lavette: also
Darrell Mccullen: then have
Robert Lavette: know
Darrell Mccullen: to be
Robert Lavette: which
Darrell Mccullen: on
Robert Lavette: button
Darrell Mccullen: the
Robert Lavette: you
Darrell Mccullen: in
Robert Lavette: p
Darrell Mccullen: the all uh remote control have to be LEDs.
Robert Lavette: Yeah, that's right. But
Darrell Mccullen: Everywhere
Robert Lavette: it
Darrell Mccullen: in the r
Robert Lavette: But does it make any difference for the energy you use? You got
Dennis Watson: No
Robert Lavette: still
Dennis Watson: I don't
Robert Lavette: one
Dennis Watson: think
Robert Lavette: LED.
Dennis Watson: so, but Yeah, i it it will look different, and I think we need to find something else.
Robert Lavette: That looks different, yeah.
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Dennis Watson: 'Cause otherwise we will just make another standard, and our uh motto also is
Darrell Mccullen: Is LEDs uh beneath the the buttons?
Dennis Watson: Yeah, w around the buttons, or in the buttons even.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, okay.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, but mm like when you push it
Dennis Watson: Yeah, then then
Jessie Holt: n
Dennis Watson: won't
Jessie Holt: n
Dennis Watson: Then you
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: won't see it.
Jessie Holt: You have your finger over the button. So you can see
Darrell Mccullen: It must be around it then.
Jessie Holt: Yeah. Or or m maybe on top of the A green
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: light
Darrell Mccullen: then
Jessie Holt: is flashing
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah. Not
Jessie Holt: or
Darrell Mccullen: not not not here, but
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: here.
Jessie Holt: There. Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: Maybe uh
Robert Lavette: The same as a telephone, or a mobile phone, or
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: what
Dennis Watson: we're
Robert Lavette: do
Dennis Watson: thinking
Robert Lavette: you mean?
Dennis Watson: about it. Uh on
Robert Lavette: If you
Dennis Watson: a mobile
Robert Lavette: push
Dennis Watson: phone, in the dark uh
Robert Lavette: It lights up. Everything lights up.
Dennis Watson: everything
Robert Lavette: That's a good
Dennis Watson: lights
Robert Lavette: idea.
Dennis Watson: up.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: Why ain't that on a remote
Robert Lavette: It
Dennis Watson: control?
Robert Lavette: it only takes a l a little energy
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: and it's not
Dennis Watson: if
Robert Lavette: that
Dennis Watson: uh
Robert Lavette: much.
Dennis Watson: a mobile
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Dennis Watson: phone a phone can do it, it's
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: It's f Yeah. Maybe that's a good idea for old people as well.
Dennis Watson: Yeah, i
Jessie Holt: Mm-hmm.
Dennis Watson: if you're in the dark, you can't see the remote.
Robert Lavette: It's only
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: few LEDs. Only four or something. Four LED.
Dennis Watson: No, I dunno. But if we use a battery station, which I think we will use
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, I uh
Robert Lavette: Yeah, that's a good idea,
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: okay.
Jessie Holt: We'll have enough power to
Robert Lavette: Everything agre Everyone agrees with that, or
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: Yep.
Darrell Mccullen: Maybe what Paul said, uh under the on
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: the
Robert Lavette: and then
Darrell Mccullen: on
Robert Lavette: you
Darrell Mccullen: the home station, uh a button to uh to call your uh remote control, that
Robert Lavette: Okay,
Darrell Mccullen: it beeps.
Robert Lavette: yeah.
Dennis Watson: And also
Robert Lavette: But you
Dennis Watson: it's
Robert Lavette: have to make a sound device in it then.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, there must be sound in it.
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Robert Lavette: But Yeah.
Dennis Watson: Okay,
Darrell Mccullen: I dunno.
Dennis Watson: it shouldn't take
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: much
Jessie Holt: B maybe it's that that's a little too hard to make. Especially for that kind of money. Because
Darrell Mccullen: Mm
Jessie Holt: it's
Darrell Mccullen: uh,
Jessie Holt: i
Darrell Mccullen: twenty
Jessie Holt: it
Darrell Mccullen: five
Jessie Holt: has
Darrell Mccullen: Euros,
Jessie Holt: to be
Darrell Mccullen: I think we can
Dennis Watson: Uh
Darrell Mccullen: make
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: I
Jessie Holt: Production
Dennis Watson: th
Darrell Mccullen: it.
Jessie Holt: cost
Darrell Mccullen: Bec
Jessie Holt: is uh t uh twelve and a half.
Darrell Mccullen: Twelve and a half, okay. But but we only have to make it for television, and
Jessie Holt: Yeah, okay.
Darrell Mccullen: um
Dennis Watson: I think
Darrell Mccullen: we must have something
Dennis Watson: uh
Darrell Mccullen: special.
Dennis Watson: you also
Darrell Mccullen: So
Dennis Watson: have uh remote controls with a lot of options. But we lose about ninety percent of those options. So
Darrell Mccullen: Uh.
Dennis Watson: I think you can uh
Darrell Mccullen: We have to give our customers some extras.
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: I
Jessie Holt: okay.
Dennis Watson: think we will save money with that.
Robert Lavette: Okay. Are you almost finished or just
Jessie Holt: Yeah, the the personal preference, I didn't fill it out. Because
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Jessie Holt: I was short on time.
Robert Lavette: Okay. No worry.
Jessie Holt: But um Basically what we could do too is uh have a Bluetooth uh integration.
Robert Lavette: Yeah, I just want to talk some about some more. So maybe you
Jessie Holt: Yeah?
Robert Lavette: have to Yeah?
Jessie Holt: Okay.
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Robert Lavette: So this Oh, sorry. Wh what's that? So uh Oh, sorry. We have some new uh project requirements. We have to have a look what they are. They're still in um Uh teletext has become outdated since the popularity of internet. So a teletext option, maybe we have to skip that one. I'm not sure. I don't
Jessie Holt: No,
Robert Lavette: think
Darrell Mccullen: No.
Robert Lavette: so,
Jessie Holt: and I
Robert Lavette: but
Jessie Holt: I think a lot of people use
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: uh teletext,
Robert Lavette: and it's it's on your
Jessie Holt: still
Robert Lavette: comp it's on
Jessie Holt: use.
Robert Lavette: your television. It's only one button. So I
Darrell Mccullen: Uh.
Robert Lavette: don't think
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: it is
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Robert Lavette: We definitely should use it. Um Yeah, that's uh what I told you. The remote control should only be used for a television. So that's maybe easier. And um the the forty plus people, I already told you. Oh no, sorry. Oh, this is a problem. Oh sorry about that. The new product should reach a new market with customers are the younger than forty. So it should be flashy or just
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Jessie Holt: Oh.
Robert Lavette: more interesting.
Dennis Watson: Okay,
Jessie Holt: Mm.
Dennis Watson: that's It changes
Robert Lavette: I'm sorry about
Dennis Watson: things.
Robert Lavette: that. I just I just didn't read it well. So does it make some
Darrell Mccullen: Changes.
Robert Lavette: decision about that?
Dennis Watson: Um
Jessie Holt: Yeah. That kinda changes
Darrell Mccullen: Uh
Jessie Holt: the whole situation.
Dennis Watson: Well yeah, then we have to make some nice features. I think uh the thing in the dark is a good way, to make it more
Robert Lavette: That still
Dennis Watson: like
Robert Lavette: stays.
Dennis Watson: a mobile phone.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: More modern.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: That's important I think and
Darrell Mccullen: L_C_D_ doesn't work for uh twelve and a half Euros I think.
Dennis Watson: And I d I don't don't think it's very usable in a remote control, especially when you only have T_V_ functions on
Darrell Mccullen: Oh.
Dennis Watson: it.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Mm
Dennis Watson: So
Jessie Holt: ah I I don't y you'll use it often, because you can see on the television
Darrell Mccullen: Oh,
Jessie Holt: wh what
Darrell Mccullen: I'm
Jessie Holt: channel
Darrell Mccullen: watching
Jessie Holt: you
Darrell Mccullen: uh the channel one. Okay. No,
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: it's
Dennis Watson: I
Darrell Mccullen: not
Dennis Watson: tho I think that's not usable.
Jessie Holt: No.
Dennis Watson: So, but uh Yeah. What other features can we put in?
Jessie Holt: Yeah. I think you you have to make it a bit flashy and and popular. And uh then the usability is not that required, because the Like in the mobile phones, usability is not that
Darrell Mccullen: But
Jessie Holt: good I
Darrell Mccullen: uh
Jessie Holt: think.
Darrell Mccullen: some of you had uh something to read about um uh speech uh recognition. About you said one and the television turns on one. Is that reachable maybe? That's very
Jessie Holt: I didn't
Darrell Mccullen: That's
Jessie Holt: read
Darrell Mccullen: fancy. That's cool.
Dennis Watson: It's
Jessie Holt: I
Dennis Watson: very
Darrell Mccullen: Twelve
Jessie Holt: didn't
Dennis Watson: fashion.
Jessie Holt: read
Darrell Mccullen: and
Jessie Holt: any b
Darrell Mccullen: you've
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: got twelve.
Jessie Holt: Yeah okay.
Dennis Watson: Mm.
Darrell Mccullen: Only
Jessie Holt: I
Darrell Mccullen: the
Jessie Holt: I
Darrell Mccullen: numbers,
Jessie Holt: know.
Darrell Mccullen: only numbers. Uh furthermore nothing. But only the numbers, one to twenty or something.
Jessie Holt: Mm.
Darrell Mccullen: That should be cool.
Robert Lavette: Yeah, maybe we have to integrate that as well. If it's possible.
Darrell Mccullen: If it's
Robert Lavette: But
Darrell Mccullen: possible, I dunno.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, I
Darrell Mccullen: I
Jessie Holt: don't
Darrell Mccullen: didn't
Jessie Holt: know.
Robert Lavette: I don't
Darrell Mccullen: read
Robert Lavette: think
Darrell Mccullen: it.
Robert Lavette: it's
Dennis Watson: Mm.
Robert Lavette: very expensive actually. Why should it?
Darrell Mccullen: Uh if
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: i
Dennis Watson: I think
Robert Lavette: You
Darrell Mccullen: if
Robert Lavette: only
Darrell Mccullen: i
Robert Lavette: have a
Dennis Watson: it's
Robert Lavette: microphone in it.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: I didn't have
Jessie Holt: But
Darrell Mccullen: information
Jessie Holt: it has
Darrell Mccullen: about
Jessie Holt: to
Darrell Mccullen: that.
Jessie Holt: work. And and and does it have to work only in English, or in Dutch too
Robert Lavette: Nah,
Jessie Holt: or
Robert Lavette: maybe
Darrell Mccullen: Ah that's a problem, but
Jessie Holt: And and
Darrell Mccullen: Uh only
Jessie Holt: uh
Darrell Mccullen: in
Jessie Holt: w
Darrell Mccullen: English.
Dennis Watson: What
Darrell Mccullen: Only
Dennis Watson: But
Darrell Mccullen: in English
Jessie Holt: Yeah?
Dennis Watson: uh
Darrell Mccullen: I think.
Dennis Watson: I dunno how that works then. Uh does your
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: uh
Jessie Holt: it's
Dennis Watson: Does
Jessie Holt: probably
Dennis Watson: it lie
Jessie Holt: my
Dennis Watson: in the
Jessie Holt: job
Dennis Watson: centre
Jessie Holt: to
Dennis Watson: of
Jessie Holt: figure
Dennis Watson: the room
Jessie Holt: that out,
Dennis Watson: and
Jessie Holt: but
Dennis Watson: can you scream from wherever
Darrell Mccullen: No,
Dennis Watson: uh one
Darrell Mccullen: that
Dennis Watson: to have in channel
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: one?
Darrell Mccullen: then th we have to think about that. But do do we do it? It's
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: more
Dennis Watson: I dunno.
Darrell Mccullen: if we
Dennis Watson: So,
Darrell Mccullen: if we do it.
Dennis Watson: is it very usable? That's what I'm looking at.
Jessie Holt: And and do you have to speak in in like in
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: a thing or
Dennis Watson: Is
Robert Lavette: Maybe maybe it's too hard to uh to realise that. It We have short
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: time
Jessie Holt: I dunno.
Robert Lavette: to to put it on the market, so that
Darrell Mccullen: Okay.
Robert Lavette: We
Dennis Watson: Mm
Robert Lavette: have to
Dennis Watson: Yeah
Robert Lavette: do a
Dennis Watson: well
Robert Lavette: lot of testing before we can do that.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, I think so.
Robert Lavette: We
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, and
Robert Lavette: make
Darrell Mccullen: uh and
Robert Lavette: uh make
Darrell Mccullen: uh
Robert Lavette: uh, we can make
Dennis Watson: It's
Robert Lavette: th th the new remote control very flashy.
Darrell Mccullen: In uh indeed uh the languages are a difficult thing. Uh because
Dennis Watson: I
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: d
Darrell Mccullen: we we
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: have
Dennis Watson: I don't
Darrell Mccullen: a lot
Dennis Watson: think
Darrell Mccullen: of
Jessie Holt: And
Darrell Mccullen: languages.
Dennis Watson: it's
Jessie Holt: and
Dennis Watson: uh useful enough to take the effort to design something with uh speech recognition.
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: and also
Robert Lavette: I think
Jessie Holt: if
Robert Lavette: so.
Jessie Holt: if you have a good speech uh speech recognition, you can just throw
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: the uh
Darrell Mccullen: A uh someone says that
Jessie Holt: the remote
Darrell Mccullen: uh
Jessie Holt: away.
Darrell Mccullen: give Darrell Mccullen one Coke, and the
Jessie Holt: Mm.
Darrell Mccullen: T_V_ turns
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Darrell Mccullen: uh to one.
Jessie Holt: Mm.
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah, it's not
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: uh
Jessie Holt: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: Well
Jessie Holt: okay.
Dennis Watson: yeah, that's the right command. And
Jessie Holt: But
Dennis Watson: then you have to say uh T_V_ channel one, or something.
Jessie Holt: Hmm
Dennis Watson: Not
Jessie Holt: yeah,
Dennis Watson: just one, but
Jessie Holt: T_V_
Darrell Mccullen: Okay, but
Jessie Holt: one.
Darrell Mccullen: th that becomes your f Uh uh because that's very hard for uh speech recognition.
Dennis Watson: Well
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: I dunno. But I don't think, it just ain't useful enough.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm-hmm.
Robert Lavette: So we have to make some decisions. So you
Darrell Mccullen: Okay,
Robert Lavette: can see
Darrell Mccullen: no speech
Robert Lavette: on the
Darrell Mccullen: recognition.
Robert Lavette: uh So we have to know what we're going to put on. Do we, do we make uh a light under the under the n under the numbers and everything? Do
Dennis Watson: Yeah, I think
Robert Lavette: If
Dennis Watson: so.
Robert Lavette: you press something, it lights up for a few seconds, so you can see what other but buttons there are, okay?
Jessie Holt: Yeah, that's good.
Dennis Watson: Yep.
Robert Lavette: Okay, we just take that one. And what else, we have
Dennis Watson: Also the one in the dark. So uh It lights up when it's dark?
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: I
Robert Lavette: but
Dennis Watson: didn't
Robert Lavette: it's Oh th I thought would, that that would be the same. If you
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Robert Lavette: push something,
Darrell Mccullen: Yeah. Yeah
Robert Lavette: it
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: it
Darrell Mccullen: yeah,
Dennis Watson: but
Robert Lavette: all
Darrell Mccullen: it
Robert Lavette: lights
Dennis Watson: um
Robert Lavette: up.
Darrell Mccullen: it mustn't work all the time.
Dennis Watson: Yes,
Darrell Mccullen: It uh
Dennis Watson: that's
Darrell Mccullen: uh it
Dennis Watson: what
Darrell Mccullen: have
Dennis Watson: I mean.
Darrell Mccullen: to work only when you use it. So
Robert Lavette: Or
Darrell Mccullen: if
Robert Lavette: you can
Darrell Mccullen: you
Robert Lavette: switch it on or something.
Darrell Mccullen: No,
Dennis Watson: Or
Darrell Mccullen: if
Dennis Watson: maybe
Darrell Mccullen: you use
Dennis Watson: when you
Darrell Mccullen: one button,
Dennis Watson: yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: it must turn uh
Dennis Watson: It
Darrell Mccullen: on
Dennis Watson: lights
Darrell Mccullen: for
Dennis Watson: up all.
Darrell Mccullen: twenty seconds,
Robert Lavette: Yeah, that's
Darrell Mccullen: and
Robert Lavette: right.
Darrell Mccullen: then
Robert Lavette: You
Darrell Mccullen: it
Robert Lavette: have
Darrell Mccullen: must
Robert Lavette: to
Darrell Mccullen: turn off.
Robert Lavette: Yeah, that's right. That's what
Dennis Watson: Okay
Robert Lavette: I said. It's
Dennis Watson: yeah.
Robert Lavette: the
Dennis Watson: D
Robert Lavette: same as the telephone.
Dennis Watson: Yeah, alright.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Robert Lavette: And do we use a a Uh what's it called? Like a iMac, if you can look through it. Or just a normal
Dennis Watson: Maybe
Jessie Holt: Mm,
Robert Lavette: remote control.
Jessie Holt: maybe
Dennis Watson: just as an
Jessie Holt: it's
Dennis Watson: option,
Jessie Holt: a good idea.
Dennis Watson: w like we discussed, like iPod. Different colours, uh maybe use even different fonts.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: Oh yeah.
Dennis Watson: Like uh phones.
Robert Lavette: Different colours. Okay, so
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Robert Lavette: y
Darrell Mccullen: A see-through.
Robert Lavette: you just make it th through
Darrell Mccullen: Mm,
Robert Lavette: You look
Dennis Watson: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: that's
Robert Lavette: through
Darrell Mccullen: cool.
Robert Lavette: it?
Dennis Watson: Uh
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: as an option maybe.
Robert Lavette: And so the buttons we have, this is, yeah, this is normal. We put in
Dennis Watson: It's the
Robert Lavette: the
Dennis Watson: standard
Robert Lavette: the simple buttons on the top, and probably
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: the the
Dennis Watson: uh
Robert Lavette: the more complicated buttons
Darrell Mccullen: But you have
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Darrell Mccullen: You
Robert Lavette: down
Dennis Watson: we
Darrell Mccullen: had
Dennis Watson: but
Darrell Mccullen: a lot
Dennis Watson: we
Darrell Mccullen: of
Dennis Watson: don't
Robert Lavette: there.
Darrell Mccullen: different buttons.
Dennis Watson: We don't really
Jessie Holt: Hmm.
Dennis Watson: have any
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Dennis Watson: complicated
Robert Lavette: maybe you
Dennis Watson: buttons.
Robert Lavette: have you have to Uh when you use teletec teletext, you can press a green or a red button
Dennis Watson: Yeah
Robert Lavette: to
Dennis Watson: okay,
Robert Lavette: go to
Dennis Watson: but
Robert Lavette: the next one, or to go
Dennis Watson: Yeah,
Robert Lavette: to the previous
Dennis Watson: well
Robert Lavette: one.
Dennis Watson: w I think the buttons are very easy. With just uh standard buttons we just have so
Robert Lavette: O but maybe you
Dennis Watson: little
Robert Lavette: can put um the g the options of teletext on the second level of the remote control.
Dennis Watson: No, I don't
Robert Lavette: Because
Dennis Watson: need
Robert Lavette: you ne
Dennis Watson: don't
Robert Lavette: almost
Dennis Watson: need
Robert Lavette: never use it.
Dennis Watson: Uh teletext options are only four buttons or something.
Jessie Holt: Yeah, but younger people I think um more often use the internet and elderly people often use teletext.
Robert Lavette: Yeah,
Jessie Holt: So
Robert Lavette: that's
Dennis Watson: I use
Darrell Mccullen: No,
Robert Lavette: right.
Jessie Holt: uh
Dennis Watson: teletext
Darrell Mccullen: I use
Dennis Watson: as well.
Darrell Mccullen: te teletext every day, I think.
Jessie Holt: Hmm. Okay.
Robert Lavette: Yeah. For Darrell Mccullen too, it is. So we just keep it one level then?
Dennis Watson: Yeah yeah, one
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: level.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm.
Dennis Watson: And I think, uh 'cause um we don't have that many buttons, I think the design is most important.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: You can d uh integrate the buttons in the design very much.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Dennis Watson: 'Cause simple buttons. If you
Robert Lavette: Okay.
Dennis Watson: put one above it, it's clear.
Robert Lavette: Okay. So that's it for toda for We're going to have a lunch lunch break. Um
Dennis Watson: How long is lunch break?
Robert Lavette: So yeah, you know what you have to do. This is uh this is it. You get your meal and everything, so
Darrell Mccullen: Trendwatching. Okay.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: That's fine.
Darrell Mccullen: Yo.
Robert Lavette: So, we're finished for t for this time. We're going to have some lunch.
Dennis Watson: Okay.
Dennis Watson: Bye.
Robert Lavette: Yeah.
Jessie Holt: Yeah.
Darrell Mccullen: Mm. Uh. | Robert Lavette announced that the remote should only control television, and that the marketing should be targeted towards ages 40 and above. Darrell Mccullen presented the results of a lab study on users of remote controls, and showed that users want a fancier, less complicated remote that does not get lost easily. The group decided not to use speech recognition or an LCD screen to target the older demographic. Dennis Watson discussed the button functions and how to make channel-changing easier. The group decided not to include programmable "favorites" buttons. Jessie Holt presented the internal components of the device. The group discussed having the remote light up when used. He also stressed that the remote must be compatible with all television brands. Robert Lavette corrected his target group announcement and announced that the target age group was actually ages 40 and below. The group again discussed the possibility of adding speech recognition and LCD screens to the design but decided that it was not feasible. The group decided to have the remote light up when used and is including teletext. Darrell Mccullen was instructed to report on trendwatching. | 1 | amisum | test |
Roger Johnson: Bonjour.
Brian Bollman: It's It won't wake up. Yeah. I a bit early. Like
Roger Johnson: Why?
Brian Bollman: What? No, I just came in. Uh normally I was one of them.
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Come on.
Roger Johnson: Check check
Roger Whelan: Hello.
Roger Johnson: check
Brian Bollman: Why
Roger Whelan: Oop.
Brian Bollman: won't it wake up?
Brian Bollman: Is it on?
Roger Johnson: The power light doesn't work. You turned it off.
Brian Bollman: But how? Ah, there it is.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Uh.
Paul Alexander: I received an email with uh a few on uh the. So I'll discuss them
Roger Whelan: Okay, we're
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Roger Whelan: just
Paul Alexander: with you. Yeah.
Roger Whelan: to the later.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I received
Roger Whelan: So
Brian Bollman: an
Roger Whelan: we're
Brian Bollman: email
Roger Whelan: going to
Brian Bollman: as
Roger Whelan: talk
Brian Bollman: well.
Roger Whelan: about the conceptual model.
Roger Johnson: Oh.
Roger Johnson: Hmm.
Brian Bollman: Which one was mine?
Roger Whelan: So that's Roger Johnson. Uh okay. So Uh okay. Okay, so I just show you the m the no mm mm the the the the the the minutes, minute. What's it called, I dunno. Whatever.
Brian Bollman: The minutes.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so we just talked about uh Oh you want Roger Johnson to show that there or
Roger Johnson: Uh
Brian Bollman: No,
Paul Alexander: Mm
Brian Bollman: just
Paul Alexander: no.
Brian Bollman: tell
Roger Whelan: Okay,
Brian Bollman: us.
Roger Whelan: we just talked about it looks Has. to look nice. Usability is very important. People don't want to spend money on something that's similar to cheaper ones. Um It has to be very basic, not too many buttons. Light switches on if you use a button. Uh text T_V_ still has to be a possibility. And it has to be easy to learn. That were the things I uh make minutes of. And the functions are volume, channel to choose channels, an on-off, a mute uh button, and a text T_V_ button. That are the functions. That right?
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: Okay. So I just want to give you uh Mike again, the first uh presentation of your
Roger Johnson: Shall I start?
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: No. Okay well I received an email Okay.
Roger Johnson: I searched the web, uh and uh I searched uh on this d document, recent investigation of the remote control market. It has been done in Italy uh Italy and in uh another country in Europe, I forget it. but uh found out most important aspect for remote controls happens to be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look and feel. So it's very important for us to create something new. So what Michael just said, it must be uh some very different from ordinary uh remote controls. Fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and interface. Uh this uh aspect is the most important one. Uh it came out of the research. It uh is twice important as the following. The second uh most important aspect is that a remote control should it uh technological innovative. Uh that stands for uh uh new technical uh features. And then uh that uh This is a point of discussion, because we just decided that we don't make use of uh L_C_D_ or uh speech recognition.
Brian Bollman: Hmm.
Roger Johnson: But um this is the second uh important uh aspect, and I think uh we must use some of the new technology, to be uh innovative.
Roger Whelan: But we already have the flashing flashing light on the
Roger Johnson: Uh maybe maybe something
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: new.
Brian Bollman: more.
Roger Johnson: We have
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Johnson: to discuss about it s uh
Brian Bollman: Well,
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: I'll I'll get back
Roger Johnson: Okay,
Brian Bollman: on it.
Roger Johnson: uh features not uh do not exist in current remote controls. And that's very hard I think. Uh the third one is the aspect of the remote control should be easy to use. But uh that was an overall uh point. We already discussed that. Um I've got one picture. Uh d our our target group uh we thought about was young and trendy.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: So I took uh that part of the webpage. And it says uh fashion-watchers of uh uh Pari uh France and uh Italy, yeah, uh have detected the following trends. This trends I th uh trend I think it's not um that meaningful for us, maybe. But it's about uh clothes and shoes. But the
Roger Whelan: Hmm.
Roger Johnson: uh the next uh aspect also in contrast to last year, the feel of material is expe uh uh is expected to be spongy.
Brian Bollman: Spongy.
Roger Johnson: But spongy, what what does spongy
Paul Alexander: Spongy.
Roger Johnson: says?
Brian Bollman: Spongy,
Roger Johnson: Spongy.
Brian Bollman: like sponge.
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Paul Alexander: So rubber, kind of.
Brian Bollman: Uh soft materials.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: But maybe th that's al definitely a good idea, because you've you're you drop y your remote control very often on the ground.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: So it has
Brian Bollman: but
Roger Whelan: to be
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: flexible.
Roger Johnson: Yeah, it's something that uh it stand there. But I didn't knew uh knew what it means. So spongy means y
Paul Alexander: It's like
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: a sponge.
Brian Bollman: Soft, sponge.
Roger Johnson: So it's also a stress-ball.
Roger Whelan: That's a good
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: That's a good
Paul Alexander: somewhat
Roger Whelan: idea. If it's
Paul Alexander: like
Roger Whelan: de like that. That's
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: good, a
Brian Bollman: but
Roger Whelan: good idea.
Brian Bollman: Yeah. How are
Roger Whelan: Is it
Brian Bollman: you
Roger Whelan: a
Brian Bollman: gonna
Roger Whelan: bit
Brian Bollman: make
Roger Whelan: like
Brian Bollman: it?
Roger Whelan: like the the the the remote control? R_ soft.
Roger Johnson: Uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I've some uh material uh information, but I'll give you it later
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: in my presentation.
Roger Johnson: Okay? What do I think? Uh because a fancy look is the most important thing uh for remote control uh control, I think about changeable fronts.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: Uh maybe a see-through one in a a fruit front. Because it's uh it's hot. And uh some basic uh colour fronts. Uh so we can make uh five different fronts to start with or something. Uh maybe an extraordinary shape, like a sponge. Uh or uh, yeah, just another shape than a normal uh remote control ha uh has. Just
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: uh something round in it, or uh maybe not uh not uh Yeah, I dun dunno. We have to discuss about that. Uh y yeah. Main point uh still uh is the technolo technological innovative. Yeah, how do we do that? Maybe speech? We ma must have some kind of gadget.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I'll get back on that.
Roger Johnson: So
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Whelan: It's very uh difficult to to
Roger Johnson: Intro
Roger Whelan: to
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: do it. Because it's only twelve and a half Euros you have to spend
Roger Johnson: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: on every
Brian Bollman: Well,
Roger Johnson: that's
Roger Whelan: remote
Roger Johnson: the problem.
Roger Whelan: control.
Roger Johnson: That's
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Johnson: the main
Brian Bollman: got
Roger Johnson: problem.
Brian Bollman: f also an email from
Roger Johnson: So
Brian Bollman: the the technology department.
Roger Johnson: Maybe we watch the first
Brian Bollman: They
Roger Johnson: uh
Brian Bollman: have done
Roger Johnson: the next
Brian Bollman: uh
Roger Johnson: two
Brian Bollman: research
Roger Johnson: presentations.
Brian Bollman: about it, and uh even more possibilities now with speech. So they recommended using it.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Well
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Johnson: Okay. Uh let's
Brian Bollman: I'll check what they exact
Roger Johnson: first
Brian Bollman: mean.
Roger Johnson: watch Paul's presentation
Brian Bollman: So
Roger Johnson: first then.
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah, well actually we have don't have an idea how much it's gonna cost. But maybe it's cheap
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: it's
Brian Bollman: th that's
Paul Alexander: to
Brian Bollman: the
Paul Alexander: implement.
Brian Bollman: only problem. I d They don't say how much it will cost, so Um but uh if
Roger Johnson: Oh.
Brian Bollman: we implement
Roger Johnson: It's mass production.
Brian Bollman: uh speech
Roger Johnson: So you can
Brian Bollman: recognition,
Roger Johnson: say, you can
Brian Bollman: I think it would be better to implement L_C_D_ as well. Since you have to uh configure speech
Roger Whelan: But
Brian Bollman: thing.
Roger Whelan: that's definitely more expensive than
Brian Bollman: Yeah, that's that's something I dunno.
Roger Johnson: Yeah. But how uh we we're gonna make many of those. So we can start a mass production, and then
Roger Whelan: Yeah, but a
Roger Johnson: the
Roger Whelan: telephone
Roger Johnson: cost will still
Roger Whelan: Okay,
Roger Johnson: will be.
Roger Whelan: yeah. But a telephone also have a L_C_D_ and
Brian Bollman: Yeah, so uh we
Roger Whelan: and
Brian Bollman: gotta
Roger Whelan: it's about
Brian Bollman: de
Roger Whelan: t two hundred Euros. So uh
Brian Bollman: We have to decide
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: on that.
Roger Johnson: Okay. That was this?
Brian Bollman: Mm uh
Paul Alexander: Oh I got an email uh And it says uh the chip can be uh simple, regular or advanced. And Um They say uh a display requires an advanced chip. And this is more expensive than all the other chips. So it's m
Brian Bollman: L_D_C_
Paul Alexander: the most
Brian Bollman: doesn't
Paul Alexander: expensive.
Brian Bollman: require
Paul Alexander: Yeah, it says in the email. The display requires an advanced chip.
Brian Bollman: Okay. And speech recognition?
Paul Alexander: Yeah, probably too.
Brian Bollman: Advanced.
Paul Alexander: I I haven't
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: got anything about speech recognition, but
Brian Bollman: I'll I'll give
Paul Alexander: Well
Brian Bollman: you my
Paul Alexander: it d
Brian Bollman: design.
Paul Alexander: That's that's the most expensive chip, we need. If we're doing uh
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Paul Alexander: if
Brian Bollman: okay.
Paul Alexander: we're doing
Brian Bollman: So
Paul Alexander: a
Brian Bollman: we
Paul Alexander: display.
Brian Bollman: Well we can
Brian Bollman: I had uh to make a sort of a design. So I did some searching on the internet. I watched the old remote controls and news com remote como uh remote controls. I think we should um This is one of the modern remote controls of the moment. I think we should go more to the iPod and M_P_ three players.
Roger Whelan: Yeah, just
Brian Bollman: Mobile phones.
Roger Whelan: modern modern but still
Brian Bollman: More modern.
Roger Whelan: uh basic.
Brian Bollman: Y yes. Um you probably have to make it a bit bigger and a bit smaller. 'Cause remote con control, you can see it here, you have to bo reach both out both sides. And here you just have one, few buttons. So that's that's the main difference. But looks uh I definitely think we should go like this. And then changeable fonts, so
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Brian Bollman: It's the most important part, I think. But And the home base is something like that, something simple. Well and then I just ordered the the buttons a bit. Uh basic buttons. On-off, mute. And th maybe two others, I dunno.
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: Text
Roger Whelan: maybe
Brian Bollman: buttons.
Roger Whelan: the teletext
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: tel
Brian Bollman: text button, maybe there and there. And then the colour buttons, if we want it on. I don't find it very usable, but
Roger Johnson: No,
Roger Whelan: No.
Roger Johnson: I don't
Brian Bollman: it's Uh I don't think it's
Roger Johnson: uh I don't like
Brian Bollman: fits in
Roger Johnson: it.
Brian Bollman: the the modern theme as well.
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Brian Bollman: So and then yeah we saw the the pla display, in the the iPod. They can put the basic buttons, one, two, three, four. And uh f above ten. And
Paul Alexander: But it
Brian Bollman: I think
Paul Alexander: That's on on the display.
Brian Bollman: No no. That th there is no display there. But it's on the place of the display. And I think we should uh light this up much more than that part. So
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: the focus is on these two parts.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: So you don't see all the buttons you else
Roger Whelan: But
Brian Bollman: need.
Roger Whelan: it sounds very difficult to use. Because um the volume and channel is on the on
Brian Bollman: Uh
Roger Whelan: the
Brian Bollman: well
Roger Whelan: the bottom
Brian Bollman: um
Roger Whelan: of it. So you can't use your thumb for it.
Brian Bollman: This is how it is now. Um Here uh Well we have volume.
Paul Alexander: I think
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: it is
Roger Whelan: down
Paul Alexander: on
Roger Whelan: there.
Paul Alexander: uh on the bottom too.
Roger Whelan: But it's not not the
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: best best.
Brian Bollman: Well here we have also side scrolls. I dunno
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: if we can
Paul Alexander: okay.
Brian Bollman: use that.
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: Do
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: we
Roger Whelan: for
Brian Bollman: want
Roger Whelan: volume.
Paul Alexander: I've
Brian Bollman: to use
Paul Alexander: I've got something of
Roger Whelan: For volume,
Paul Alexander: that uh too.
Roger Whelan: or a channel. Yeah,
Brian Bollman: For
Roger Whelan: why
Brian Bollman: volume?
Roger Whelan: not.
Brian Bollman: Well then
Paul Alexander: Scroll.
Brian Bollman: we can even simplify it more. By just putting the volume on the side. And
Roger Whelan: And the channels
Brian Bollman: and
Roger Whelan: as well.
Brian Bollman: just channel buttons here.
Roger Whelan: Oh yeah.
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: But
Paul Alexander: or
Brian Bollman: I think
Paul Alexander: uh
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: maybe uh The channel buttons are often used. And you can't use them now with your thumb, because the thing is not, it's
Brian Bollman: Well.
Paul Alexander: not easy to
Brian Bollman: Yeah, well it's
Paul Alexander: control.
Brian Bollman: Basically it's it's here.
Paul Alexander: Yeah okay, m maybe we cho should put that on top, and
Roger Whelan: Yeah, that's
Paul Alexander: buttons
Roger Whelan: better.
Paul Alexander: we
Brian Bollman: They're
Paul Alexander: we
Brian Bollman: on
Paul Alexander: don't
Brian Bollman: top?
Paul Alexander: use on, in
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: the bottom.
Roger Whelan: just th th th other buttons like text T_V_. Put that on the button bottom.
Paul Alexander: Because uh
Brian Bollman: You mean
Paul Alexander: you
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: can't hold it.
Brian Bollman: these
Paul Alexander: You can't
Roger Whelan: Mm-hmm.
Paul Alexander: hold
Brian Bollman: to the
Paul Alexander: it
Brian Bollman: low?
Paul Alexander: th the
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: control and push the buttons.
Roger Whelan: Except from the on-off button.
Brian Bollman: Oh okay. Well, yeah.
Paul Alexander: But I I think w you'll use uh the switch channels buttons uh more often than the normal uh channel buttons, like one two three. So maybe we can
Brian Bollman: Mm
Paul Alexander: put that on the bottom.
Brian Bollman: Maybe. I dunno, but yeah we'll
Paul Alexander: Like zapping is just switching
Brian Bollman: Yeah, maybe
Paul Alexander: one channel
Brian Bollman: it's not
Paul Alexander: at a time.
Brian Bollman: easy if it's below. It's harder to zap. So I think uh it should be should be easy to. I think it's pretty standard, these rubber buttons on the top.
Paul Alexander: Yeah okay. That's
Brian Bollman: And
Paul Alexander: that's good,
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: but
Brian Bollman: if you don't light 'em up, they don't uh you don't see 'em very good. I think it's modern to light this area up, and to light this area up. So the focus gets on these parts and not on there.
Paul Alexander: Yeah okay.
Brian Bollman: But uh the position of course can be different. It's s We have to look uh what's easy to use, and how it's easier to use.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: So we can uh switch these to
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Brian Bollman: I dunno if it l will look good, if you put those on t on the bottom half.
Paul Alexander: No, I think th the the top buttons are okay.
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Paul Alexander: They sh Those should be on top.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: But
Brian Bollman: maybe
Paul Alexander: uh we we can switch those two,
Brian Bollman: Those
Paul Alexander: yeah.
Brian Bollman: two, yeah. And uh, yeah, you have to make sure it's easy to uh Yes, it has to be big enough so you can hold it,
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Brian Bollman: right. Well that's that's my findings. So uh my personal opinion is that we should go more modern look. M_P_ three player. And uh well um if, we I don't think we should put it on top then. I think that, if we're gonna put in more technology, that you need to be able to uh switch it open.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: To
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: use
Roger Whelan: Yeah, that's cool.
Brian Bollman: So if you put in uh speech recognition, you need so more uh many more buttons. Which won't look good on the front side I think.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: No.
Brian Bollman: So that's something we have to decide on.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, we have to keep it simple.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: We have to decide this this lecture, or this this this uh
Brian Bollman: What we're gonna do.
Roger Whelan: fifty minutes, yeah,
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Roger Whelan: how it is gonna look.
Paul Alexander: Okay, the component design. I looked at uh some similar devices, and uh my own common knowledge. So uh this was on the web site. If you aim at a young public, you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green, blue, red. So flashy kinda colours. Uh shapes should be curved, so round shapes. Not Nothing square-like.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so Hmm, okay.
Brian Bollman: Yeah well uh iPod is trendy. And
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: it is well curved
Roger Johnson: Square.
Brian Bollman: square.
Roger Johnson: Like.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but mm is uh has round corners I
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Paul Alexander: think.
Brian Bollman: So
Paul Alexander: So
Brian Bollman: not
Paul Alexander: we shouldn't have too square corners
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Paul Alexander: and
Brian Bollman: okay.
Paul Alexander: that
Brian Bollman: Not
Paul Alexander: kind of
Brian Bollman: uh the
Paul Alexander: thing.
Brian Bollman: old uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: box look.
Paul Alexander: And um sports and gaming device style characteristics. I don't know exactly what that means, but it should be, well yeah, popular kind of
Roger Johnson: Mm.
Paul Alexander: looking,
Roger Whelan: Yeah, we have to
Paul Alexander: I think.
Roger Whelan: put our Real Reaction logo as well on the
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: on the remote control.
Brian Bollman: Mm Yeah,
Roger Whelan: So the
Brian Bollman: it's
Roger Whelan: colours also. So we have ha to ma make it in black, black, yellow.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Black yellow control.
Roger Whelan: Maybe the sides
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: in
Paul Alexander: mm
Roger Whelan: yellow
Paul Alexander: n
Roger Whelan: and the the the top in
Paul Alexander: Not
Roger Whelan: black.
Paul Alexander: that weird, because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy, to attract a young public.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, but uh I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together. But
Paul Alexander: No,
Roger Whelan: We
Paul Alexander: okay.
Roger Whelan: make i Maybe
Paul Alexander: That's
Roger Whelan: you can
Paul Alexander: a
Roger Whelan: put
Paul Alexander: that's
Roger Whelan: yellow
Paul Alexander: a sen
Roger Whelan: on the side and black on the on the front.
Paul Alexander: That's just a matter of tastes, but
Brian Bollman: Yeah, okay.
Paul Alexander: We have to use uh kind of flashy colours,
Brian Bollman: Uh can't
Paul Alexander: I think.
Brian Bollman: we use um different uh fron uh fronts, with all with the the logo on it?
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: Can
Roger Whelan: it's
Brian Bollman: we
Roger Whelan: cool.
Brian Bollman: do that?
Roger Whelan: Yep.
Paul Alexander: Like
Brian Bollman: So
Paul Alexander: fronts
Roger Whelan: And
Paul Alexander: in in
Roger Whelan: still
Paul Alexander: red
Roger Whelan: trans
Paul Alexander: and yellow
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Paul Alexander: and blue and
Roger Johnson: Oh yeah.
Brian Bollman: So
Roger Whelan: Still still transparent.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Yeah. But with all with logo on it.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: Well this is a remote control, a very old one. Um Then the components. The case has just a Here's black. But
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: we
Roger Whelan: we
Paul Alexander: are
Roger Whelan: make
Paul Alexander: making
Roger Whelan: it som
Paul Alexander: it uh
Roger Whelan: Maybe we have to make it from soft material. Uh I'm not sure.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I dunno.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Maybe. But anyways uh it should be transparent. We decided that, huh?
Brian Bollman: Well
Paul Alexander: S
Brian Bollman: one of the options. You can Just like a mobile phone, you can make um
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: different fronts on it. So you can just replace them I think.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, we could
Brian Bollman: That
Paul Alexander: do
Brian Bollman: was
Paul Alexander: that.
Brian Bollman: the idea, or just uh
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: release one.
Roger Whelan: Just give five with them, just in a box. Five
Brian Bollman: Yeah, uh
Roger Whelan: different
Brian Bollman: Or just
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: y you
Brian Bollman: sell
Paul Alexander: could
Brian Bollman: different ones.
Paul Alexander: you could make 'em uh uh like blue and transparent. So you
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: can still
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Cool.
Paul Alexander: th look
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: through it. Um the buttons. Normal rubber I think. Like normal ordinary buttons.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: Soft.
Brian Bollman: I uh I dunno.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: A more
Roger Whelan: It it could be like a Nokia, like
Brian Bollman: Yeah, just
Roger Whelan: plastic.
Roger Johnson: Uh uh
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: With the
Roger Whelan: That's
Paul Alexander: hard
Roger Whelan: better
Paul Alexander: hard
Roger Whelan: prob
Paul Alexander: buttons.
Brian Bollman: I think
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: uh rubber really has an odd look.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls, uh the buttons are part of the uh the style, I think is part of the remote control itself.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape. Uh it's n doesn't Is uh a button uh um How do you say it?
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: It
Paul Alexander: it's
Roger Johnson: it
Paul Alexander: it's
Roger Johnson: didn't
Paul Alexander: all
Roger Johnson: it
Paul Alexander: on
Roger Johnson: i
Paul Alexander: one
Roger Johnson: it
Paul Alexander: level.
Roger Johnson: don't come out of the
Paul Alexander: Yeah, on
Roger Johnson: on
Paul Alexander: one
Roger Johnson: the background.
Paul Alexander: level.
Roger Johnson: It is in uh the c a remote
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: control uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I know what you mean. So we have to keep it on the one level. Like
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, like mobile
Paul Alexander: th the
Brian Bollman: phones.
Paul Alexander: top it's
Brian Bollman: Like
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: uh the iPod. Uh just
Paul Alexander: Yeah, okay. Okay,
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: it's chos
Roger Whelan: that's cool.
Paul Alexander: So that should be hard plastic. Then the buttons? I think. Or
Brian Bollman: I
Paul Alexander: maybe
Brian Bollman: dunno what uh kind of material it is. But
Roger Whelan: But
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: maybe you can m make a uh round fluff or soft material. Just only the
Brian Bollman: Oops.
Roger Whelan: basic uh basic remote control from normal plastic, and
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: the rounds of it from softer s
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: And um
Roger Whelan: I dunno.
Paul Alexander: Then the L_E_D_. The normal infrared L_E_D_ I think s sufficient. And back light L_E_D_s.
Roger Whelan: Y
Paul Alexander: So
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Cool.
Paul Alexander: But I think we have to make the case transparent, otherwise the back light won't work. So if you put
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Uh you
Roger Whelan: Y i
Brian Bollman: can
Roger Whelan: if you
Brian Bollman: just
Roger Whelan: The numbers
Brian Bollman: make them around
Roger Whelan: could be
Brian Bollman: the buttons
Roger Whelan: can be Yeah,
Brian Bollman: uh
Roger Whelan: that's
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: right.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Or it runs the whole
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but we can still make it transparent. So
Roger Whelan: They can
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: choose.
Brian Bollman: you
Paul Alexander: Or
Brian Bollman: can
Paul Alexander: no
Brian Bollman: halfs transparent, or just that it's comes out a bit.
Paul Alexander: Yeah okay. Good. And in green colour, the back lights or
Brian Bollman: Different, I think, also.
Paul Alexander: Yeah?
Roger Whelan: Blue.
Brian Bollman: Blue or red.
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Whatever you want it, I think. Uh depends on the colour
Roger Whelan: Yeah, but
Brian Bollman: of
Roger Whelan: you
Brian Bollman: the
Roger Whelan: can't choo You
Roger Johnson: Uh
Roger Whelan: can't choose
Roger Johnson: i
Roger Whelan: it when you buy it. You
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: have
Brian Bollman: that's
Roger Whelan: to
Brian Bollman: true.
Roger Whelan: choose
Brian Bollman: But
Paul Alexander: No, but I think there are multiple colour LEDs. So
Roger Whelan: Is it
Roger Johnson: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Roger Johnson: but can you change
Paul Alexander: I I
Roger Johnson: it
Paul Alexander: know
Roger Johnson: if you already
Paul Alexander: I dunno. Is
Roger Johnson: bought the the
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: remote
Brian Bollman: it
Roger Johnson: control?
Brian Bollman: can.
Roger Johnson: You
Brian Bollman: 'Cause this
Roger Whelan: Yeah, okay.
Brian Bollman: a mo mib uh mobile
Paul Alexander: Maybe
Brian Bollman: phone
Paul Alexander: it's
Brian Bollman: as
Paul Alexander: it's
Brian Bollman: well.
Paul Alexander: more impor
Roger Whelan: Maybe
Paul Alexander: more
Roger Whelan: put some different
Paul Alexander: expensive.
Roger Whelan: ones in it. Doesn't
Paul Alexander: I
Roger Whelan: matter.
Paul Alexander: think
Roger Whelan: It's
Paul Alexander: it's
Roger Whelan: just
Brian Bollman: I have
Roger Whelan: No,
Brian Bollman: the mo
Roger Whelan: just
Brian Bollman: mi
Roger Whelan: some
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Whelan: LED.
Brian Bollman: have a blinking light on my phone. And I can change the colour of it.
Roger Whelan: Okay, cool. Just make it some different colours. Blue, red and green, or something.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I dunno. Maybe it's too expensive, but it
Brian Bollman: Well,
Paul Alexander: I th
Brian Bollman: we don't
Paul Alexander: I don't
Brian Bollman: put
Paul Alexander: think so.
Brian Bollman: put in any fancier technology yet.
Roger Johnson: Hmm.
Brian Bollman: So
Paul Alexander: Then uh some more technical things. I don't know what it is, Um this is the normal circuit board, like a chip board in in a lot of uh things.
Roger Whelan: Yeah, we have to hurry
Paul Alexander: W
Roger Whelan: up a bit,
Paul Alexander: So
Roger Whelan: so
Paul Alexander: we d we just need this and this transistors and resonators. There's all these kind of things. Um
Brian Bollman: I'm
Paul Alexander: they
Brian Bollman: sure
Paul Alexander: they basically
Brian Bollman: we can fit
Paul Alexander: said
Brian Bollman: in.
Paul Alexander: that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls. So I guess we j we just need that.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: I don't know what they do or
Roger Johnson: Okay
Brian Bollman: Yeah okay.
Roger Johnson: yeah,
Brian Bollman: We just
Roger Johnson: you can you can change Yeah. No.
Paul Alexander: Nah, but they just said we need it.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: Uh the battery contacts, like normal batteries ca you can put
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: in.
Roger Whelan: a recharger maybe.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, we
Paul Alexander: Yeah
Brian Bollman: have to
Paul Alexander: okay.
Brian Bollman: make sure
Paul Alexander: Yeah
Roger Whelan: We
Brian Bollman: to
Roger Whelan: still
Brian Bollman: uh
Paul Alexander: but
Roger Whelan: want to have a recharger, don't we? Is
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: that still
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: the
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but it i We don't wanna have a ar an How do you call it? Accu.
Roger Whelan: A recha Oh no.
Brian Bollman: Re recharger.
Paul Alexander: Y
Roger Whelan: Uh
Brian Bollman: Base
Paul Alexander: uh
Roger Whelan: Battery.
Paul Alexander: just
Brian Bollman: station.
Roger Whelan: It's
Paul Alexander: just
Roger Whelan: just a
Paul Alexander: batteries,
Roger Whelan: battery.
Paul Alexander: rechargeable
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: batteries.
Brian Bollman: batteries. Yes, rechargeable
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: batteries, I think's best.
Paul Alexander: Not a separate
Roger Whelan: No, just
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: rechargeable batteries.
Paul Alexander: And uh a chip, that's this one. Then uh I received some possibilities. Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh Like with the pulse watch. So it operates
Roger Johnson: Ah
Paul Alexander: on
Roger Johnson: cool.
Paul Alexander: your wrist kinda.
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Brian Bollman: So if you
Paul Alexander: If
Brian Bollman: hold
Paul Alexander: you
Roger Whelan: But
Paul Alexander: hold
Brian Bollman: it,
Roger Whelan: normally
Paul Alexander: it.
Brian Bollman: it gets
Roger Whelan: you
Brian Bollman: powered.
Roger Whelan: put a remote control on the table
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: or
Paul Alexander: I don't
Roger Whelan: on the
Paul Alexander: think it will work,
Roger Whelan: couch.
Paul Alexander: and Or we can also use solar cells. But you mostly
Roger Whelan: It's dark
Paul Alexander: use
Roger Whelan: in
Paul Alexander: it
Roger Whelan: the room.
Paul Alexander: indoors,
Roger Whelan: No. It's
Paul Alexander: so
Roger Whelan: just batteries, that's cheaper.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, and and we can use the home station kind of thing.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Um cases, flat, so uncurved. Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back. And three D_ curved is also in depth.
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Paul Alexander: So that's possible. Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls, we must use rubber buttons. So we can't
Brian Bollman: Mm.
Paul Alexander: use the flat
Brian Bollman: So
Paul Alexander: buttons.
Brian Bollman: we need uh two D_.
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: I think.
Roger Whelan: Definitely.
Paul Alexander: Um these kinda materials can be used.
Roger Whelan: But it doesn't really matter, we just make it plastic.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I think so too.
Roger Whelan: The scroll wheels, that's cool. That's for the volume.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, scroll wheels um
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, that's good. We can use multiple scroll wheels, w if we want to. But I
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: think just the volume is enough.
Brian Bollman: Uh For channels it's not
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: handy, because you scroll too fast.
Paul Alexander: And uh the L_C_D_. So we need
Roger Johnson: Mm
Paul Alexander: uh the expensive, most expensive chip, if we use an L_C_D_.
Roger Whelan: I don't think that's an opportunity. Just skip it. that to
Paul Alexander: Okay, then we
Roger Whelan: to put it
Paul Alexander: we
Roger Whelan: in.
Paul Alexander: use m must use the second most expensive chip. So th so the regular chip. Because we use scroll wheels.
Roger Whelan: Yeah, okay.
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Paul Alexander: And um Yeah, that was it I
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: guess. Uh are are we using a a rubber case, or
Roger Whelan: Oh
Paul Alexander: We haven't
Roger Whelan: just
Paul Alexander: decided
Roger Whelan: sk Maybe
Paul Alexander: yet.
Roger Whelan: you have to skip that one as well. It's
Brian Bollman: Uh I don't think
Roger Johnson: Uh
Brian Bollman: a rubber
Paul Alexander: L
Brian Bollman: case
Paul Alexander: Yeah, i
Brian Bollman: looks
Roger Johnson: but we
Paul Alexander: it
Roger Johnson: have
Paul Alexander: it should
Roger Johnson: to
Paul Alexander: be
Roger Johnson: do
Paul Alexander: soft.
Roger Johnson: something about the trend.
Paul Alexander: You said so?
Roger Johnson: The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, okay. That
Roger Johnson: And
Brian Bollman: Uh fruit
Roger Johnson: uh now
Brian Bollman: and
Roger Johnson: we
Brian Bollman: veg,
Roger Johnson: have nothing
Brian Bollman: or
Roger Johnson: about uh about those those two.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, fruit and veg can be just the covers.
Roger Johnson: Uh yeah i Just
Brian Bollman: So you can
Roger Johnson: Just on front.
Brian Bollman: the the spongy yeah, I dunno. I can't imagine
Roger Whelan: No.
Brian Bollman: a soft remote control.
Roger Whelan: No.
Brian Bollman: I just can't imagine it.
Paul Alexander: So just hard plastic?
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I think. Titanium. It's mentioned here uh.
Paul Alexander: Titanium, uh I think it's too expensive.
Roger Whelan: But maybe the form has to be a bit different. Not the sh the square form. Just a bit
Paul Alexander: Yeah, you can make
Roger Whelan: more
Paul Alexander: it curved
Roger Whelan: rounded.
Paul Alexander: or
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: mm round. But just in two D_, not
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: in depth.
Roger Whelan: Yeah, that's
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Roger Whelan: right.
Roger Whelan: So We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these. What exactly. Because we have to know it. So the energy uh is the recharger. We already know that.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Just
Brian Bollman: We
Roger Whelan: a
Brian Bollman: have
Roger Whelan: normal
Brian Bollman: batteries.
Roger Whelan: battery. Okay. The chip-on-print is a normal one.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Regular.
Roger Whelan: Okay, the case is just a plastic
Paul Alexander: Yeah
Roger Whelan: one.
Paul Alexander: th yeah, the chip is the the regular
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: one. You
Roger Whelan: re
Paul Alexander: have
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: the simple
Roger Whelan: regular.
Paul Alexander: one, regular
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: and
Roger Whelan: okay.
Paul Alexander: advanced. So it's
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: b should
Roger Whelan: regular.
Paul Alexander: be regular uh the second.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: I think I'll just
Roger Whelan: And
Paul Alexander: check
Roger Whelan: we
Paul Alexander: it.
Roger Whelan: need a plastic case, with a scroll wheel.
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: That's pretty much it.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: User
Roger Whelan: And
Brian Bollman: interface
Roger Whelan: a flashy
Brian Bollman: concept.
Roger Whelan: light. So uh I'm not sure. But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment. But
Brian Bollman: I dunno either.
Paul Alexander: Mm. Or should we
Brian Bollman: Uh
Paul Alexander: do it in the next meeting?
Brian Bollman: I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: So
Roger Whelan: That's
Paul Alexander: we
Roger Whelan: for
Paul Alexander: should
Roger Whelan: the next
Paul Alexander: did it
Roger Whelan: one.
Paul Alexander: here?
Brian Bollman: So
Roger Whelan: That's for
Brian Bollman: we're
Roger Whelan: th
Brian Bollman: staying here?
Paul Alexander: Or should we
Roger Whelan: Uh
Paul Alexander: do it in the
Roger Whelan: that
Paul Alexander: next
Roger Whelan: I
Paul Alexander: meeting?
Roger Whelan: think that's the next next meeting.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: But you definitely get a specific instruction.
Brian Bollman: Okay, so
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: now we're ka thirty minutes alone again?
Roger Whelan: But th think about something that's more rounded. Just And more
Brian Bollman: Yeah, uh
Roger Whelan: It has
Brian Bollman: I dunno.
Roger Whelan: to be
Brian Bollman: But the iPod and etcetera, M_P_ three players, mobile phones.
Roger Whelan: Uh a bit. Just just on the top
Brian Bollman: Just
Roger Whelan: or on the
Brian Bollman: a bit
Roger Whelan: bottom.
Brian Bollman: cur Okay, I'll see if I can see any of those.
Roger Whelan: Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this. O um if you draw it like this, you get a What the fuck is it? Okay. Mm Doesn't work. You see what I mean? If I draw here
Paul Alexander: What?
Roger Whelan: It draws about four centimetres
Paul Alexander: Oh.
Roger Whelan: lower than Nah okay.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: Just. Maybe you can make it like this. And this is all the wheel for volume. So that you just um It's all rounded, so you can do
Paul Alexander: Like a
Roger Whelan: uh
Paul Alexander: very
Roger Whelan: turn
Paul Alexander: big
Roger Whelan: this one.
Paul Alexander: scroll-wheel.
Roger Whelan: Yeah, but just not on the top, but uh on the side of it.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: Maybe, I dunno.
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so we have this at the moment.
Paul Alexander: I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when
Brian Bollman: Yeah, you
Paul Alexander: it's not wanted.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so we'd have this. Is that okay?
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: I
Brian Bollman: that's
Paul Alexander: think
Brian Bollman: a little
Paul Alexander: it's
Brian Bollman: problem,
Paul Alexander: probably
Brian Bollman: of course,
Paul Alexander: better.
Brian Bollman: as well.
Roger Whelan: And
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but maybe we can make a a plastic, so that you i if you like drop it, it won't change the volume.
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: Only
Brian Bollman: maybe
Paul Alexander: if you
Brian Bollman: you just
Paul Alexander: use your
Brian Bollman: have to
Paul Alexander: finger.
Brian Bollman: make it uh That's not scrollable too easy.
Roger Whelan: Like this. And uh what's the channel choose? Where do we uh put that?
Paul Alexander: I think in
Roger Whelan: Still
Paul Alexander: middle.
Roger Whelan: on the bottom or
Brian Bollman: Uh wh what is the middle part?
Roger Whelan: That's the numbers.
Paul Alexander: Uh I
Brian Bollman: Numbers,
Paul Alexander: think th the
Brian Bollman: okay.
Paul Alexander: numbers should be in the bottom, and and the switch channel in the middle.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I agree as well. Use the
Roger Whelan: It
Brian Bollman: dz
Roger Whelan: doesn't make a difference, if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other. Because you already have the volume here, so You can also put it here one butt and the other one there. Next to each other.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, that's
Roger Whelan: back
Brian Bollman: right.
Roger Whelan: and forth. So you can also can put it all on the top, and this, you keep this empty. Because you have to hold it as well.
Paul Alexander: Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button
Roger Whelan: But that's
Paul Alexander: below.
Roger Whelan: not want to zap very quick, so
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Brian Bollman: I
Paul Alexander: okay.
Brian Bollman: think uh zapping
Roger Whelan: Yeah?
Brian Bollman: is the highest priority. And then you use those
Roger Whelan: Is
Brian Bollman: uh
Roger Whelan: this a opportunity, or you don't want
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: a different
Brian Bollman: of course uh.
Paul Alexander: Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other, so
Roger Whelan: Why?
Paul Alexander: Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the
Roger Whelan: But still
Paul Alexander: the
Roger Whelan: the
Paul Alexander: up
Roger Whelan: next It's still the next one.
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: Doesn't
Paul Alexander: but the top
Roger Whelan: make
Paul Alexander: the top button is is like you switch channel up, and down button is
Roger Whelan: Yeah, but fo
Paul Alexander: If you put
Roger Whelan: from
Paul Alexander: them
Roger Whelan: left to right is exactly the same.
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: It ma it doesn't make
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Whelan: a big
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Whelan: difference.
Brian Bollman: think it's
Paul Alexander: But
Brian Bollman: It's
Paul Alexander: uh but
Brian Bollman: it's obvious,
Paul Alexander: I I think
Brian Bollman: I think.
Paul Alexander: uh left to right is more often associated with volume, and top down is more with uh
Roger Johnson: Yeah,
Paul Alexander: channel changing.
Roger Johnson: that's not not
Roger Whelan: But it's
Paul Alexander: In
Roger Johnson: It's
Roger Whelan: exactly
Paul Alexander: uh
Roger Johnson: not
Paul Alexander: On
Roger Johnson: al
Paul Alexander: most
Roger Johnson: uh always
Roger Whelan: th
Paul Alexander: on most
Roger Johnson: the same.
Paul Alexander: remote
Roger Johnson: Every
Paul Alexander: controls.
Roger Johnson: remote control's
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I think
Roger Johnson: uh
Paul Alexander: So so if we
Roger Johnson: different.
Paul Alexander: use that, they will probably have a long learning uh time.
Roger Whelan: I dunno.
Brian Bollman: No,
Roger Whelan: I You
Brian Bollman: uh
Roger Whelan: already
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Whelan: have
Brian Bollman: think
Roger Whelan: the volume on the side, so you can't make it you can't ma make a
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: mistake. So it's
Brian Bollman: I think
Roger Whelan: uh
Brian Bollman: it's s so
Paul Alexander: I
Brian Bollman: simple
Paul Alexander: dunno.
Brian Bollman: you just
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Whelan: So but that's for that's for you, 'cause
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: it's
Brian Bollman: okay I'll d I'll take a look at it.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so hmm. What did What else we have to discuss about? I dunno.
Brian Bollman: Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again?
Roger Johnson: Yeah, we have to care that it r uh looks really new. Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: remote control. 'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside.
Roger Whelan: And the
Brian Bollman: No,
Roger Whelan: LED.
Brian Bollman: you have uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but i
Brian Bollman: It
Paul Alexander: i it
Brian Bollman: is
Paul Alexander: should be round in
Brian Bollman: Uh
Paul Alexander: in shape.
Brian Bollman: the current
Paul Alexander: So
Brian Bollman: uh controllers are all black and plastic. You have to look at that image of the iPod.
Roger Johnson: Yes.
Brian Bollman: More
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Brian Bollman: that uh kind of style.
Roger Johnson: And a bit uh
Brian Bollman: Not not the old grey
Roger Whelan: Uh
Brian Bollman: black
Roger Johnson: Some some
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: kind of bling bling uh
Brian Bollman: Where
Roger Johnson: mm
Brian Bollman: you can put a ve
Roger Johnson: can we have
Brian Bollman: Uh we have If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo.
Roger Whelan: Yeah. Uh the logo was has to be on there. Yeah, that's right.
Roger Johnson: Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then? Uh five or something?
Roger Whelan: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: Or more
Roger Whelan: five.
Roger Johnson: or
Roger Whelan: Let's give five.
Brian Bollman: Maybe you can buy separate ones
Roger Johnson: And
Brian Bollman: and uh
Roger Johnson: um uh uh buy the product. You buy, you get one. And uh basic. Or you
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: can
Brian Bollman: Um
Roger Johnson: choose one uh
Brian Bollman: I think
Roger Johnson: if you buy
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: the project.
Paul Alexander: No,
Brian Bollman: That's
Paul Alexander: tha
Brian Bollman: your
Paul Alexander: that
Brian Bollman: choice,
Paul Alexander: will be
Brian Bollman: I think huh.
Roger Whelan: So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger? Is that is that a good good opportunity?
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: So you
Paul Alexander: so
Roger Whelan: could put it like
Paul Alexander: top
Roger Whelan: that,
Paul Alexander: down.
Roger Whelan: okay.
Paul Alexander: Hmm?
Roger Johnson: Yeah, you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station.
Paul Alexander: Do we have to design that w as well?
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Uh I'm
Paul Alexander: The
Roger Whelan: not
Paul Alexander: docking
Roger Whelan: sure.
Paul Alexander: station?
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I think so.
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Johnson: Yeah, we
Brian Bollman: But
Roger Johnson: can b
Brian Bollman: th Yeah, that can be very simple. Least.
Roger Johnson: It c it could be
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: just just
Paul Alexander: just a recharger.
Roger Johnson: a square, just
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: a
Brian Bollman: just
Roger Johnson: packet.
Brian Bollman: where you're around something. Li Yeah, we had one example.
Paul Alexander: But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well.
Brian Bollman: Mm. Mm.
Roger Johnson: Yeah, but that's a round
Brian Bollman: Which w
Roger Johnson: one. Maybe we can choose then.
Brian Bollman: Here you see one that's very round.
Paul Alexander: Oh yeah, okay.
Brian Bollman: So I think that can be all kind of shapes.
Roger Whelan: But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit.
Paul Alexander: Of
Roger Whelan: That's
Paul Alexander: the remote
Roger Whelan: all.
Paul Alexander: control?
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: Yeah Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Just
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: round it
Brian Bollman: so
Roger Whelan: up.
Brian Bollman: y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod. But
Roger Whelan: No.
Brian Bollman: More rounded.
Roger Whelan: Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I think it will just look like more like this one. Since it's This is also rounded.
Roger Whelan: No,
Brian Bollman: I think
Roger Whelan: just
Brian Bollman: i
Roger Whelan: just the corners.
Brian Bollman: Yeah okay, tho those are al already a bit cornered. Mm
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but we can we can do all kinds of uh As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of
Roger Whelan: Shapes.
Paul Alexander: round shapes.
Brian Bollman: Yeah okay, but then
Paul Alexander: Not
Brian Bollman: we
Paul Alexander: in
Brian Bollman: have
Paul Alexander: depth.
Brian Bollman: to think of something totally new.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but Yeah, if if we want to make it kind of, yeah, new.
Brian Bollman: I've uh I had a lot of picture of old ones. And all curves have already been done.
Roger Whelan: It's a bit annoying, isn't it?
Roger Johnson: Yeah. What do we do wrong? Hmm. Just just more like this and not uh a square.
Brian Bollman: Yeah okay,
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Brian Bollman: yeah well
Paul Alexander: Yeah, but we could do a lot of, lot more curving. I would do it
Brian Bollman: Yeah. I know we can do a lot more, but
Roger Johnson: Yeah, it
Paul Alexander: Like in this kind of shape or
Roger Johnson: Uh it's very annoying. Okay.
Paul Alexander: I dunno. I dunno if it's handy.
Brian Bollman: I think it will only
Roger Johnson: Uh
Brian Bollman: look more like the old remote controls.
Paul Alexander: This?
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Paul Alexander: thing.
Brian Bollman: okay. But uh I had a lot of pictures Oh I can show you here what the old ones look like.
Paul Alexander: Mm.
Brian Bollman: Curves, curves.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: You've more there as well.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, okay.
Brian Bollman: It wasn't very small one.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: very simple. That is for elderly.
Roger Whelan: So we have to make a decision, what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I don't know.
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: I think if w My opinion. If we just uh take the iPod, and
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: the same look. So uh light or just whatever colour, but the same light colours.
Paul Alexander: Mm-hmm.
Brian Bollman: And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new. No rubber buttons or something. Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look. More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player.
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: And you have the scroll button inside.
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: Just
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: a simple
Roger Whelan: But why
Brian Bollman: scrollb
Roger Whelan: do we have to round it on the t bottom then? Of Skip that one as well.
Brian Bollman: Doesn't have to be.
Roger Whelan: Okay. Yeah, it's cool.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, though that's a trend. If we want to make it. But yeah, I'm not a Trendwatcher, you are. So
Roger Johnson: Uh the t the trend is
Roger Whelan: Rubber spongy.
Roger Johnson: spongy and fruity. But yeah.
Brian Bollman: Yeah. No.
Paul Alexander: Spongeball
Brian Bollman: Spongy
Paul Alexander: kinda.
Brian Bollman: and
Roger Johnson: It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh
Roger Whelan: Okay, so we have s still one minute left. So
Roger Johnson: Uh
Roger Whelan: just I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square.
Brian Bollman: Mm.
Paul Alexander: Okay.
Roger Johnson: It The
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I d
Roger Johnson: th
Paul Alexander: I
Roger Johnson: th
Paul Alexander: don't know n something about ergonomic kind
Roger Whelan: No.
Paul Alexander: of fits-in-the-hand
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: uh
Roger Whelan: But
Paul Alexander: stuff.
Roger Whelan: I I think it's still for older people. You j still have older people. It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that, like f Whatever. Just
Roger Johnson: There is
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: one
Roger Whelan: you have
Paul Alexander: but
Roger Whelan: a normal
Paul Alexander: we're we're aiming at a young
Roger Johnson: There's
Paul Alexander: public.
Roger Johnson: just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original, and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself. It must have uh uh uh
Brian Bollman: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: a very
Brian Bollman: idea.
Roger Johnson: different
Brian Bollman: But you're If you look at the way remote controls are now
Roger Johnson: Yeah, they're all
Brian Bollman: And
Roger Johnson: the same.
Brian Bollman: if you
Roger Whelan: But
Brian Bollman: make
Roger Whelan: i it
Brian Bollman: it
Roger Whelan: is
Brian Bollman: look
Roger Whelan: it
Brian Bollman: like
Roger Whelan: is
Brian Bollman: the iPod
Roger Whelan: it is already fancy. Because of the lights on the bottom
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Roger Whelan: of it. That's
Brian Bollman: okay.
Roger Whelan: already
Brian Bollman: So
Roger Whelan: fancy.
Brian Bollman: that's already
Roger Whelan: Uh
Brian Bollman: a very big
Roger Whelan: maybe
Brian Bollman: change
Roger Whelan: maybe
Brian Bollman: compared
Roger Whelan: make
Brian Bollman: to
Roger Whelan: the the mm the wha what's it called uh scroll wheel. Make it in in yellow or something. Just like the colours of Real
Paul Alexander: Hmm.
Roger Whelan: Reaction.
Brian Bollman: Ye yeah. Well uh
Paul Alexander: Yeah, we could do that.
Brian Bollman: Could.
Roger Johnson: Uh yeah, but uh if you the f uh front, the scroll wheel will still uh
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Roger Johnson: be yellow.
Brian Bollman: No, I think Oh.
Roger Whelan: It's right.
Brian Bollman: Think the scroll wheel won't be very big. Since if you put it uh somewhere, the chances that it will scroll are too big.
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: So it will just be a small small scroll wheel. So it won't uh stick out much.
Roger Whelan: Yeah. Maybe the ones we are going to draw there. Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has if it can work better than this. Because it doesn't work properly.
Roger Johnson: No.
Roger Whelan: So maybe you
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Roger Whelan: have
Brian Bollman: okay.
Roger Whelan: to ask
Brian Bollman: Well,
Roger Whelan: her.
Brian Bollman: maybe we can just open images there, and I'll paint and paint.
Roger Whelan: Okay.
Brian Bollman: I'll
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: be able to do
Roger Whelan: That's
Brian Bollman: a better
Roger Whelan: probably
Brian Bollman: job.
Roger Johnson: If you set the pen yeah, he will draw here. Doesn't work.
Roger Whelan: Okay, so just finish it. So we make it a bit like m that one probably.
Roger Johnson: Yeah,
Roger Whelan: Yeah. Is that okay?
Brian Bollman: Bu
Roger Johnson: I'll see it.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, I
Paul Alexander: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: agree more
Roger Whelan: Okay,
Brian Bollman: like iPod.
Roger Whelan: only the colour and the flashy light and
Brian Bollman: Yes.
Roger Whelan: the
Brian Bollman: Just
Roger Whelan: We just
Brian Bollman: a
Roger Whelan: we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech
Brian Bollman: Speech.
Roger Whelan: recognition.
Brian Bollman: Yeah, do we s keep that? Yeah, I think
Roger Whelan: Or keep that? It's okay. But you'd definitely
Paul Alexander: S
Roger Whelan: need a
Brian Bollman: Well
Paul Alexander: Uh
Brian Bollman: uh then
Paul Alexander: yeah,
Roger Whelan: advanced
Brian Bollman: it
Paul Alexander: I
Brian Bollman: w
Roger Whelan: chip.
Paul Alexander: don't
Roger Johnson: Uh
Paul Alexander: know. Yeah, I think so. And we we have to build in a microphone and
Brian Bollman: Well that's very easy. We already have uh the beeping of the
Paul Alexander: Yeah, and I do I
Brian Bollman: home
Paul Alexander: don't
Brian Bollman: station,
Paul Alexander: know anything
Brian Bollman: so
Paul Alexander: about that. I d
Roger Johnson: No.
Paul Alexander: I didn't receive any information
Brian Bollman: Uh strange
Paul Alexander: on speech
Brian Bollman: that
Paul Alexander: recognition,
Brian Bollman: I received
Paul Alexander: so
Brian Bollman: the
Roger Johnson: Oh that's hard.
Brian Bollman: information
Roger Johnson: But
Brian Bollman: about
Roger Whelan: So
Brian Bollman: that.
Roger Johnson: Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said. We have to be original and uh technological innovative. Becau Yeah.
Roger Whelan: Can we just
Roger Johnson: But
Roger Whelan: put it speech recognition in it as well, okay?
Brian Bollman: So shall we
Roger Johnson: Ma
Brian Bollman: it open then?
Roger Whelan: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: So we can put all the
Roger Whelan: The function of that in there. Yeah.
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Roger Whelan: And we need
Paul Alexander: Fine.
Roger Whelan: a Probably we need a uh advanced chip then.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, we
Roger Whelan: But
Paul Alexander: probably
Roger Whelan: it doesn't say
Paul Alexander: do.
Roger Whelan: anything
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Roger Whelan: about it, does it?
Paul Alexander: No.
Brian Bollman: Oh yeah,
Roger Johnson: But we don't
Brian Bollman: I
Roger Johnson: have any f information about the cost.
Brian Bollman: No.
Roger Johnson: We started with information about
Brian Bollman: I just
Roger Johnson: the cost
Paul Alexander: Yeah,
Roger Johnson: was
Paul Alexander: uh
Roger Johnson: now
Brian Bollman: I
Paul Alexander: I
Brian Bollman: just
Roger Johnson: th
Brian Bollman: received
Paul Alexander: have I
Brian Bollman: the
Paul Alexander: have some some information about the cost. But just a about
Brian Bollman: Yeah.
Paul Alexander: the chip.
Roger Johnson: And how much is the chip? The the the
Paul Alexander: I don't know how much, but
Brian Bollman: Yeah, our division has
Paul Alexander: Just
Brian Bollman: developed
Paul Alexander: in inexpensive
Brian Bollman: a new speech recognition
Paul Alexander: or
Brian Bollman: feature, the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit. This is a very small electronic unit, will give a standard answer after it recognise a question.
Roger Johnson: And how how does it work? Is it
Brian Bollman: Doesn't say. Just You say record, followed by your question sample, and after a few seconds the answer uh sample. Because uh So it works like uh good morning remote control, and then the remote control says good morning.
Roger Whelan: It doesn't has to say anything.
Roger Johnson: No.
Roger Whelan: Just You have to just talk
Roger Johnson: Does
Roger Whelan: to
Brian Bollman: Yeah
Roger Johnson: it say
Brian Bollman: uh th that's
Roger Johnson: does it say
Brian Bollman: just
Roger Johnson: something
Roger Whelan: Okay,
Roger Johnson: back?
Roger Whelan: we have to stop
Brian Bollman: It's
Roger Whelan: it now.
Brian Bollman: a
Roger Whelan: So
Brian Bollman: No.
Roger Whelan: just
Brian Bollman: Yeah, it Well that's integrated in the chip, so if you use the speech recognition,
Roger Whelan: Okay, that's a r
Brian Bollman: that's
Roger Whelan: That's that's
Brian Bollman: in it.
Roger Whelan: a
Paul Alexander: But i it's
Roger Whelan: advanced
Paul Alexander: a separate chip.
Brian Bollman: I dunno, but if we use speech recognition, that will be in it as well.
Roger Johnson: Okay.
Paul Alexander: Yeah, I don't know anything about
Roger Johnson: Um
Paul Alexander: this, but
Roger Whelan: Yeah, we
Paul Alexander: Nah.
Roger Whelan: just decide not to put it in, because it's too difficult.
Paul Alexander: I dunno.
Brian Bollman: Well it it would be would be a good feature
Roger Johnson: Yeah.
Brian Bollman: feature.
Roger Whelan: Okay, we just put it in, because
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Roger Whelan: it's a good feature.
Brian Bollman: No
Roger Whelan: We
Brian Bollman: no worries about
Roger Whelan: have to
Brian Bollman: the cost,
Roger Whelan: stop now.
Brian Bollman: etcetera.
Roger Whelan: Okay,
Brian Bollman: And there's
Roger Whelan: just
Brian Bollman: a chip
Roger Whelan: We
Brian Bollman: in
Roger Whelan: have
Brian Bollman: it
Roger Whelan: to stop
Brian Bollman: that
Roger Whelan: it
Brian Bollman: will
Roger Whelan: now.
Brian Bollman: Okay.
Roger Johnson: Fine. | Roger Whelan reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Roger Johnson gave a trendwatching report. He found that a fancy look and feel was most important for users. He also discussed the trend towards spongy materials. The group discussed the cost of adding speech recognition, the LCD screen, and the advanced chip. Brian Bollman discussed the look of the interface with the group. They discussed the placement and design of the buttons and decided to use scroll wheels for volume. Paul Alexander advised that flashy colors and rounded shapes be used. The group discussed how to incorporate the logo and including changeable faces. They discussed materials for the buttons and the backlight. The group decided to use rechargeable batteries and a stand, to use plastic for the casing and buttons, and to not include an LCD screen. Brian Bollman and Paul Alexander were instructed to draw the prototype at the next meeting, and Brian Bollman was instructed to finalize the button placement. The group finalized the look of the product, and eventually decided to incorporate speech recognition and an advanced chip. | 1 | amisum | test |
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh.
Gregory Lilly: It's not saved yet.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: So
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Our beautiful.
Kenneth Zoutte: So just f um
Kenneth Zoutte: So is our agenda. You're F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after Charley Dartt.
Charley Dartt: Oops.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Uh I didn't Oh yeah. So these are the
Antonio Colunga: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right, just say it to Charley Dartt then. I don't have to put it in the report.
Gregory Lilly: Are we doing the the speech recognition? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to, it's okay.
Gregory Lilly: Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, just
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, just uh we have to design the inside then, but it should
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: be
Antonio Colunga: and
Gregory Lilly: uh
Antonio Colunga: Or are we making a slide open, like underneath? Or fold open? I don't know.
Kenneth Zoutte: Slide open is
Antonio Colunga: It's
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Antonio Colunga: probably
Kenneth Zoutte: quite
Antonio Colunga: better.
Kenneth Zoutte: usable for remote controls.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and
Gregory Lilly: It's
Antonio Colunga: you
Gregory Lilly: may
Antonio Colunga: other
Gregory Lilly: maybe
Antonio Colunga: functions.
Kenneth Zoutte: Maybe
Gregory Lilly: uh a
Kenneth Zoutte: that's
Gregory Lilly: bit stronger
Kenneth Zoutte: better.
Gregory Lilly: as well.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, that's that's a very good point.
Gregory Lilly: Okay,
Antonio Colunga: Think
Gregory Lilly: so
Antonio Colunga: that's better.
Gregory Lilly: when you have a lot of room inside. So you make it very easy to use. 'Cause
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: can write a lot of comments besides it.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay. So this is okay?
Gregory Lilly: No. Yeah, we're gonna use the advanced chip then.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, so that's Uh I'll just
Antonio Colunga: The
Kenneth Zoutte: have a look how much that is. But um
Gregory Lilly: Advanced chip
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay,
Gregory Lilly: was for
Kenneth Zoutte: for the
Gregory Lilly: uh spee Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, I
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: I think so. I don't know.
Kenneth Zoutte: No, you have a different chip for speech recognition. So
Gregory Lilly: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: Ah okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay.
Gregory Lilly: Good.
Kenneth Zoutte: So you can show your prototype if you want to.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Together?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, it's Let's do it together.
Gregory Lilly: I'll give comments.
Antonio Colunga: Okay. Yeah we just made a Word file the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form, the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it. Uh the material should be hard plastic.
Charley Dartt: Mm-hmm.
Antonio Colunga: Uh colour changeable, and also transparent. And colour and transparent, or just transparent, I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function, on-off function, text functions. This uh switch channel.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, cool.
Antonio Colunga: And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here, and the mic.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: And the scrollwheel, no? You
Charley Dartt: Means
Antonio Colunga: operate that with your pointing finger. So you hold it like this in your right hand and
Kenneth Zoutte: Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone?
Gregory Lilly: Speech recognition.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, speech recognition. Just
Gregory Lilly: Um
Kenneth Zoutte: Only one button to say
Gregory Lilly: I
Kenneth Zoutte: it's
Gregory Lilly: didn't
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Gregory Lilly: have
Kenneth Zoutte: or off.
Gregory Lilly: a specification of that. But um
Antonio Colunga: Uh
Gregory Lilly: I
Antonio Colunga: I dunno.
Gregory Lilly: can imagine that you have to input your voice or something. Um
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, maybe maybe
Gregory Lilly: so I've
Antonio Colunga: uh you have to configure it.
Gregory Lilly: Yes, you need options to configure it, and after that you don't need 'em anymore.
Kenneth Zoutte: So you can put it on the back as well if you
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: want to.
Gregory Lilly: you can
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: put
Antonio Colunga: or
Gregory Lilly: 'em all on
Antonio Colunga: or
Gregory Lilly: the back.
Antonio Colunga: on the slide
Gregory Lilly: That's for sure.
Antonio Colunga: function, I don't know.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: That's
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: uh
Antonio Colunga: Well we haven't had time to design that, the slide
Gregory Lilly: We also
Antonio Colunga: pad.
Gregory Lilly: don't know how many buttons are required, or what kind of buttons. But You have a lot of room if you can slide it open.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, you can
Gregory Lilly: You
Kenneth Zoutte: put
Gregory Lilly: Yeah
Kenneth Zoutte: it
Gregory Lilly: I know.
Kenneth Zoutte: separate.
Gregory Lilly: I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So But
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: it's enough room.
Antonio Colunga: Um the position? Yeah, you write uh
Gregory Lilly: Uh
Antonio Colunga: You wrote
Gregory Lilly: well
Antonio Colunga: this, so.
Gregory Lilly: Well the main, the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing. So uh the best place, the best reach place Um on-off buttons, text buttons, mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are, easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger, uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red, 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's basically the be standard place for scrollwheel, as
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: far as I know.
Antonio Colunga: But it's not uh impossible to use it, if you're left handed. So y
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Because you can use your thumb then.
Charley Dartt: Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight
Gregory Lilly: Okay
Charley Dartt: nine.
Gregory Lilly: yeah, they
Charley Dartt: But you missed the no uh the zero
Antonio Colunga: Mm
Charley Dartt: and
Antonio Colunga: yeah.
Charley Dartt: uh
Gregory Lilly: Yeah
Charley Dartt: the two
Gregory Lilly: okay.
Charley Dartt: stripes.
Gregory Lilly: That's that's
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: below
Antonio Colunga: okay.
Gregory Lilly: that then. It's uh twelve
Antonio Colunga: just
Gregory Lilly: buttons.
Antonio Colunga: so you get that.
Charley Dartt: Okay, but It's rather important.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah okay,
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: just we just missed that. But um I'll just uh I'll get back to later. F the form well, we've taken that from the iPod, other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um The f uh the buttons creating? Uh if you That or all round shapes, not uh rounded corners.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: So that, you know, you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons, uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing, the thing that lights up. We have decided uh in the the channel buttons, there's a little uh colour around it.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: And also in the num-pads, there's also colour light behind it.
Kenneth Zoutte: And
Gregory Lilly: So
Kenneth Zoutte: do
Gregory Lilly: when
Kenneth Zoutte: you
Gregory Lilly: you
Kenneth Zoutte: still
Gregory Lilly: pre
Kenneth Zoutte: can, do you still can choose what colour, kind of colour you want?
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: How do you want to implement that? Just
Gregory Lilly: We're
Kenneth Zoutte: on the
Gregory Lilly: going
Kenneth Zoutte: Maybe
Gregory Lilly: to
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Gregory Lilly: implement.
Kenneth Zoutte: the second level as well?
Gregory Lilly: Yeah. Mm just a little
Charley Dartt: Ah.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, these are just basic functions, so All the non-basic
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, just
Antonio Colunga: are
Kenneth Zoutte: draw
Antonio Colunga: in
Kenneth Zoutte: draw the second level, because we need that as well.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Um
Charley Dartt: Okay, there is one uh function I use uh daily, and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player. That
Antonio Colunga: Okay,
Charley Dartt: function
Antonio Colunga: maybe
Charley Dartt: must be
Antonio Colunga: we use this button for
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: the
Charley Dartt: maybe Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: uh
Gregory Lilly: I um
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, as well.
Charley Dartt: functions.
Kenneth Zoutte: Just make
Gregory Lilly: To
Kenneth Zoutte: make
Gregory Lilly: your video
Kenneth Zoutte: a
Gregory Lilly: device.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something.
Antonio Colunga: A second
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: level?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Like a a new blank
Kenneth Zoutte: No no,
Antonio Colunga: one
Kenneth Zoutte: just
Antonio Colunga: or
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Antonio Colunga: Or just
Kenneth Zoutte: Down
Antonio Colunga: here?
Kenneth Zoutte: there.
Gregory Lilly: Is i Ah okay.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: So uh
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: And h how does
Kenneth Zoutte: Just
Charley Dartt: the
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Charley Dartt: second
Kenneth Zoutte: if you
Charley Dartt: level
Kenneth Zoutte: s
Charley Dartt: come out? Uh it slides uh
Gregory Lilly: Um slides
Charley Dartt: along?
Gregory Lilly: I think.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, y
Gregory Lilly: It's
Kenneth Zoutte: Maybe, yeah.
Charley Dartt: From from the uh
Kenneth Zoutte: For the
Gregory Lilly: You can
Kenneth Zoutte: bottom.
Gregory Lilly: do
Charley Dartt: beneath?
Gregory Lilly: it that it claps open, but I think that's not solid enough.
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Gregory Lilly: If that
Kenneth Zoutte: you
Gregory Lilly: breaks
Kenneth Zoutte: gotta
Gregory Lilly: then
Kenneth Zoutte: slide
Gregory Lilly: you're screwed.
Kenneth Zoutte: it. Yeah, it's right.
Gregory Lilly: So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open. Um
Antonio Colunga: So what do we need?
Gregory Lilly: Uh i the the speech functions buttons.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, just
Charley Dartt: Menu?
Gregory Lilly: Menu button. With uh maybe uh arrows. So you can uh scroll in the, navigate the menu. Um
Antonio Colunga: God
Charley Dartt: Scart?
Antonio Colunga: damn it.
Gregory Lilly: I think we can even put a We have one for the zero and one for the
Charley Dartt: Uh yeah.
Gregory Lilly: for the more digit uh
Charley Dartt: And so y you
Gregory Lilly: channels.
Charley Dartt: keep
Gregory Lilly: So
Charley Dartt: you keep
Gregory Lilly: you have
Charley Dartt: one,
Gregory Lilly: one
Charley Dartt: you have
Gregory Lilly: left for
Charley Dartt: one
Gregory Lilly: the
Charley Dartt: left. Yes.
Antonio Colunga: So this is
Gregory Lilly: Right,
Antonio Colunga: the
Gregory Lilly: the video channel, Play Station, etcetera. That's used pretty often.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: If you have a Play
Charley Dartt: It's
Gregory Lilly: Station,
Charley Dartt: a f
Gregory Lilly: mm
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: you use it every day.
Charley Dartt: basic uh
Antonio Colunga: Extern or something.
Kenneth Zoutte: You want to save that file as well? The drawing?
Gregory Lilly: That was
Antonio Colunga: So
Gregory Lilly: it.
Antonio Colunga: here are multiple speech buttons, I don't know how many.
Gregory Lilly: Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: Doesn't really matter.
Antonio Colunga: I don't
Kenneth Zoutte: Just
Antonio Colunga: know the
Gregory Lilly: It
Antonio Colunga: functions.
Gregory Lilly: doesn't
Kenneth Zoutte: just uh
Gregory Lilly: really matter. That's
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah well we don't
Antonio Colunga: What
Gregory Lilly: have
Antonio Colunga: else?
Gregory Lilly: any uh Hmm?
Antonio Colunga: What else?
Gregory Lilly: What else? Uh menu buttons with
Antonio Colunga: Uh menu.
Gregory Lilly: arrows.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, to navigate.
Antonio Colunga: Uh
Gregory Lilly: S Just uh
Antonio Colunga: With arrows.
Gregory Lilly: like Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have Or there.
Antonio Colunga: Like a normal um
Gregory Lilly: Like on the normal uh Like this.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, with in the middle um a menu
Gregory Lilly: The menu
Antonio Colunga: button.
Gregory Lilly: button, yes.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Well we don't have any, anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it.
Charley Dartt: Mm okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yep.
Charley Dartt: Uh and and you can hold it, you can hold it, and then the colours switch or
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: mm multiple
Gregory Lilly: Just press it once,
Charley Dartt: multiple
Gregory Lilly: the
Charley Dartt: buttons.
Gregory Lilly: colour should uh switch. Press again, the colour switch again maybe?
Charley Dartt: okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Or we just make it three buttons, all the colours on it. Just red, yel
Charley Dartt: Okay,
Kenneth Zoutte: uh red,
Charley Dartt: yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: green
Charley Dartt: Th
Kenneth Zoutte: and
Charley Dartt: Yeah. If
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: we have
Antonio Colunga: okay.
Charley Dartt: enough place, uh
Kenneth Zoutte: That's
Charley Dartt: then we
Kenneth Zoutte: that's
Charley Dartt: can do
Kenneth Zoutte: very
Charley Dartt: that.
Kenneth Zoutte: easy, yeah.
Antonio Colunga: We can put those here.
Charley Dartt: Colour buttons. And then we choose green, uh blue and red or
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Yep.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: Okay. That's uh Um
Antonio Colunga: So did we miss anything?
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: It
Gregory Lilly: maybe some uh some text
Charley Dartt: Some text
Gregory Lilly: next to
Charley Dartt: uh
Gregory Lilly: the
Charley Dartt: buttons.
Gregory Lilly: scroll wheel, that it is volume.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, but
Gregory Lilly: I
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Gregory Lilly: just
Kenneth Zoutte: ma
Gregory Lilly: uh The
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Gregory Lilly: volume
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Gregory Lilly: logo.
Charley Dartt: there's
Kenneth Zoutte: o
Charley Dartt: one
Kenneth Zoutte: on the
Charley Dartt: there's
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Charley Dartt: one
Kenneth Zoutte: the
Charley Dartt: text
Antonio Colunga: Oh
Charley Dartt: button
Antonio Colunga: wh
Charley Dartt: I
Antonio Colunga: Here?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Just make it
Charley Dartt: There's
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: one
Antonio Colunga: or
Charley Dartt: text
Antonio Colunga: th or
Charley Dartt: button
Antonio Colunga: the
Charley Dartt: I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page, uh like seven hundred, uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred, you will switch to your television and back to
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: text.
Gregory Lilly: we
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: have that on the
Charley Dartt: Do you do you
Gregory Lilly: the
Charley Dartt: Did
Gregory Lilly: text
Antonio Colunga: Yep.
Charley Dartt: you
Gregory Lilly: button.
Charley Dartt: think of that?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just
Gregory Lilly: Uh
Antonio Colunga: switch it off and then
Gregory Lilly: why
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: not?
Kenneth Zoutte: just put it on those extra f extra function
Charley Dartt: Ex
Kenneth Zoutte: as
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: well.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: No
Antonio Colunga: Well w
Gregory Lilly: Whoa
Antonio Colunga: we thought of a text button. And if you press it again, you get the the the
Gregory Lilly: I
Charley Dartt: The
Gregory Lilly: think
Charley Dartt: sta the state
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh
Gregory Lilly: um
Kenneth Zoutte: just
Charley Dartt: you
Kenneth Zoutte: three stages,
Antonio Colunga: through view.
Kenneth Zoutte: you
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: that's
Antonio Colunga: b
Gregory Lilly: the three
Antonio Colunga: but
Kenneth Zoutte: okay.
Gregory Lilly: stages.
Antonio Colunga: but
Gregory Lilly: Yes.
Antonio Colunga: if you're in the second stage, the third stage is switch teletext off. So you can switch back
Gregory Lilly: No,
Antonio Colunga: from
Gregory Lilly: it doesn't
Antonio Colunga: second
Gregory Lilly: have
Antonio Colunga: to
Gregory Lilly: to
Antonio Colunga: w
Gregory Lilly: turn
Antonio Colunga: first.
Gregory Lilly: it off.
Charley Dartt: No.
Gregory Lilly: Just don't
Charley Dartt: Just remember where it was. It
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext
Kenneth Zoutte: Yes,
Charley Dartt: on,
Kenneth Zoutte: that's to remember.
Charley Dartt: you you set the seven hundred, and you turn it off, then the next time you turn it on, it still stays on
Antonio Colunga: Okay,
Charley Dartt: seven hundred?
Antonio Colunga: okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, but that's
Charley Dartt: But
Kenneth Zoutte: that's
Charley Dartt: maybe
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Charley Dartt: it's not the way
Gregory Lilly: I dunno if
Kenneth Zoutte: That's a functionality for the television.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, I think as well, but Uh yeah.
Charley Dartt: Mm. That's maybe one
Antonio Colunga: Yeah mm nee
Charley Dartt: thing we can
Antonio Colunga: uh
Charley Dartt: discuss about.
Antonio Colunga: No, if i uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred, page seven hundred to the television.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: Th th
Gregory Lilly: in thi the
Antonio Colunga: th if
Gregory Lilly: the
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: you switch it
Gregory Lilly: remote
Antonio Colunga: on.
Gregory Lilly: control in the
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, but
Antonio Colunga: Th
Kenneth Zoutte: you have
Antonio Colunga: i
Kenneth Zoutte: to
Gregory Lilly: the
Kenneth Zoutte: search
Gregory Lilly: chip.
Kenneth Zoutte: every time again. That's what what happening if you do it like that.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Gregory Lilly: that's true.
Kenneth Zoutte: it's still
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: the
Antonio Colunga: I dunno.
Kenneth Zoutte: television that has
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: to do that.
Gregory Lilly: So yeah. Um do we need to fix that or
Charley Dartt: Mm
Kenneth Zoutte: No, that's what the television
Charley Dartt: most new
Kenneth Zoutte: does.
Charley Dartt: T_V_s do uh collect all the pages.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, those memory
Charley Dartt: But
Antonio Colunga: functions.
Charley Dartt: uh not not every every television, so
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay,
Antonio Colunga: Was
Kenneth Zoutte: it's
Antonio Colunga: uh
Kenneth Zoutte: cool.
Antonio Colunga: this logo for uh volume?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, that's fine.
Antonio Colunga: Okay. So that's it?
Kenneth Zoutte: Is this prich pretty much it, yeah?
Charley Dartt: Yeah, I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons? Uh from which material are they now?
Antonio Colunga: Mm.
Gregory Lilly: Just
Antonio Colunga: No no
Gregory Lilly: like your telephone, hard plastic.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah. Just hard plastic.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: So
Charley Dartt: Because
Kenneth Zoutte: It's too expensive
Charley Dartt: um
Kenneth Zoutte: to make it from a different material
Charley Dartt: if you
Kenneth Zoutte: anyway.
Charley Dartt: use it a couple of years, some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away, are uh And maybe we can write the numbers below or above? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons?
Gregory Lilly: I think
Antonio Colunga: Uh
Gregory Lilly: just
Antonio Colunga: I
Gregory Lilly: on
Antonio Colunga: think
Gregory Lilly: the buttons.
Antonio Colunga: just um
Charley Dartt: Well yeah. That's too much place.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: Okay,
Gregory Lilly: I
Antonio Colunga: but
Gregory Lilly: don't
Charley Dartt: just leave
Gregory Lilly: think
Charley Dartt: it. Just
Gregory Lilly: the space
Charley Dartt: leave it.
Gregory Lilly: is worth it.
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: I think
Charley Dartt: and
Antonio Colunga: uh
Charley Dartt: i
Antonio Colunga: you have
Charley Dartt: The most
Antonio Colunga: that problem
Charley Dartt: time
Antonio Colunga: more often with rubber buttons.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, with rubber buttons. Yeah, okay. Okay. Fine.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah? Okay, cool.
Kenneth Zoutte: Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah, I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, I made some criteria uh,
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh okay, you
Charley Dartt: so
Kenneth Zoutte: made some
Charley Dartt: we
Kenneth Zoutte: criteria.
Charley Dartt: can uh
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay,
Charley Dartt: ev
Kenneth Zoutte: cool.
Charley Dartt: evaluate our model.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: I d d d I don't think if it's right. That shall show it.
Kenneth Zoutte: You have some usability criteria or
Charley Dartt: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: Uh no, uh all criterias we just argue about. Uh Oh.
Antonio Colunga: In the bottom.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Look-and-feel?
Charley Dartt: Evaluation
Antonio Colunga: No,
Charley Dartt: crit
Antonio Colunga: evaluation is
Charley Dartt: Yeah, evaluation presentation. It's not in. Uh d it doesn't matter um It only had two pages or something. Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy, or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market. The Italians uh, how they think about it. And The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff. I made some criteria, and we have to test the criteria from one to zero. We sh we we we can give it uh a number, and then we can give ourself an average for our
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: um model. And
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: this These are all I I I found, or I wrote down. And um we have to discuss about, if we give it a one or a seven. Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful. It's
Charley Dartt: Yes.
Gregory Lilly: Mm.
Kenneth Zoutte: We are
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: actu
Charley Dartt: the the
Kenneth Zoutte: We
Charley Dartt: the difference
Kenneth Zoutte: are the
Charley Dartt: be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something. And fancy's more like the
Kenneth Zoutte: Flashy.
Charley Dartt: mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and and that kind of stuff.
Gregory Lilly: Okay. Well
Charley Dartt: The LEDs.
Gregory Lilly: I think we do If it's really uh, if you can if you can get the iPod look, then it's beautiful, I think.
Charley Dartt: Yes. And
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Antonio Colunga: Yeah
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Charley Dartt: and what
Antonio Colunga: beautiful's
Charley Dartt: ki what kind of
Antonio Colunga: is
Charley Dartt: what
Antonio Colunga: also
Charley Dartt: kind of basic
Antonio Colunga: a matter of
Charley Dartt: colours
Antonio Colunga: taste.
Charley Dartt: uh were you thought uh of?
Gregory Lilly: Hmm?
Charley Dartt: The basic colours are black or green or yellow? Or you
Gregory Lilly: Um
Charley Dartt: haven't
Gregory Lilly: basic
Charley Dartt: thought about
Gregory Lilly: colours, um yeah. Well you didn't
Charley Dartt: Ho
Gregory Lilly: say.
Charley Dartt: how do we make uh
Gregory Lilly: Maybe um company colours?
Kenneth Zoutte: It's black.
Charley Dartt: Black
Gregory Lilly: Black.
Charley Dartt: and yellow.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: A bit
Charley Dartt: Can
Kenneth Zoutte: yellow
Gregory Lilly: a bit
Kenneth Zoutte: light.
Gregory Lilly: of yellow.
Kenneth Zoutte: Do we have yellow light? No, not really, but
Gregory Lilly: Not
Kenneth Zoutte: it's possible.
Gregory Lilly: not not yellow,
Kenneth Zoutte: It's
Gregory Lilly: but just a bit of light yellow.
Charley Dartt: Black white, maybe?
Gregory Lilly: Like white, also ni or uh always
Antonio Colunga: And
Gregory Lilly: nice.
Antonio Colunga: what colours
Charley Dartt: Uh
Antonio Colunga: should the buttons be?
Charley Dartt: Because um
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, different colours. This is
Gregory Lilly: Just um
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh, the same as th th the cover. But also th the
Antonio Colunga: But
Kenneth Zoutte: light behind
Antonio Colunga: can
Gregory Lilly: Yes.
Antonio Colunga: you change
Kenneth Zoutte: it.
Antonio Colunga: those too, with uh
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Antonio Colunga: the switch?
Kenneth Zoutte: no. Make them No, just make them black or grey or something.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, grey. Just dark grey I think.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Okay, so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful? Beautiful is uh really subjective, uh because it has to do lots with the colours.
Gregory Lilly: Well we have changeable fronts, so
Charley Dartt: Changeable fronts, so ev for everyone for
Gregory Lilly: So
Charley Dartt: everyone it's something beautiful.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, just
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: give it a one. It's okay. It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not?
Gregory Lilly: It's hard to decide for us, but
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: yeah.
Antonio Colunga: It's ju
Gregory Lilly: It
Antonio Colunga: so
Gregory Lilly: it's
Antonio Colunga: subjective.
Gregory Lilly: At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, just give it a two.
Charley Dartt: A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Okay. uh really fancy I think.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: One
Charley Dartt: So
Antonio Colunga: more thing. Are w are we changing uh Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too? Or n no back light?
Charley Dartt: Slide panel?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah?
Gregory Lilly: Mm.
Kenneth Zoutte: No.
Gregory Lilly: Not
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Gregory Lilly: needed.
Kenneth Zoutte: it's only on the number, behind the numbers
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, not
Kenneth Zoutte: and
Gregory Lilly: needed
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Gregory Lilly: I
Antonio Colunga: And
Gregory Lilly: think.
Antonio Colunga: and the switch channel is uh
Charley Dartt: Oh,
Antonio Colunga: There is
Kenneth Zoutte: That
Antonio Colunga: a back
Kenneth Zoutte: as
Antonio Colunga: light
Kenneth Zoutte: well,
Antonio Colunga: too?
Charley Dartt: you mean th
Kenneth Zoutte: yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: this here?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, but that's unnecessary.
Gregory Lilly: What do I think is necessary necessary
Charley Dartt: It's
Gregory Lilly: item?
Charley Dartt: pretty cool. If you slide it open, it lights up. That's that's really
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: fancy, but I don't know if it's reachable.
Gregory Lilly: Of course it's reachable.
Kenneth Zoutte: It doesn't
Charley Dartt: Then
Kenneth Zoutte: make
Charley Dartt: we do it.
Antonio Colunga: Hmm.
Gregory Lilly: Okay, maybe just some light uh to to light it all up. So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons
Kenneth Zoutte: No.
Gregory Lilly: or something.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Just a green light or some blue light. To
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: light it all up.
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: but
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah. Mayb
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: just backlight. Not not the buttons. And
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons, but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Well yeah. Uh semi-transparent.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, just
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: only Yeah, that's right.
Charley Dartt: Okay, fine.
Kenneth Zoutte: So
Charley Dartt: So I I think it's very fancy.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, that's
Charley Dartt: So I'll
Kenneth Zoutte: how
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: I
Charley Dartt: give
Kenneth Zoutte: think.
Charley Dartt: it a
Gregory Lilly: w we've done a a lot of detail in light, so
Charley Dartt: Yeah, and you can
Kenneth Zoutte: Ye
Charley Dartt: uh also choose your light, so
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, this
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: It is a one. It's okay.
Charley Dartt: I think
Kenneth Zoutte: It's cool.
Charley Dartt: it's one. Okay, next.
Kenneth Zoutte: This is a difficult one, because
Charley Dartt: Learnable?
Kenneth Zoutte: we we
Charley Dartt: Easy
Kenneth Zoutte: don't
Charley Dartt: to use?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, we don't know it about the
Charley Dartt: Yeah, we shall test it But uh
Kenneth Zoutte: Uh it's it's very easy to use, but
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: uh the second layer is not easy to use. It's That's
Antonio Colunga: No, but you
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: don't have to use that. And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer. That's
Kenneth Zoutte: No.
Antonio Colunga: th that's the main thing that's so good
Gregory Lilly: So
Antonio Colunga: about
Gregory Lilly: I think
Antonio Colunga: it.
Gregory Lilly: it's easy to use, but And learnable
Charley Dartt: Learnable?
Gregory Lilly: is a bit
Charley Dartt: It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control.
Antonio Colunga: Well,
Charley Dartt: Because
Antonio Colunga: I think it
Gregory Lilly: Well
Antonio Colunga: is.
Charley Dartt: because I
Gregory Lilly: y
Charley Dartt: think
Gregory Lilly: just
Charley Dartt: I think
Gregory Lilly: uh
Charley Dartt: the scroll
Gregory Lilly: f
Charley Dartt: wheel, uh it's very handy, but the first time you get this thing in your hands, it's not to use the scroll wheel. I think uh you must uh seek for it, and up or down or Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: then
Kenneth Zoutte: the rest of it is very
Charley Dartt: the
Kenneth Zoutte: easy,
Charley Dartt: re
Kenneth Zoutte: because there are so so
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: n
Gregory Lilly: I think it's very clear
Antonio Colunga: So
Gregory Lilly: what it
Antonio Colunga: so
Gregory Lilly: all does.
Antonio Colunga: few information that you can
Gregory Lilly: Yes.
Antonio Colunga: easily decide
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: what buttons w for what function.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: But the second parts, uh like speech, etcetera, that will be harder to learn.
Kenneth Zoutte: So
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: it is learnable um f i
Charley Dartt: But
Kenneth Zoutte: i In the first place
Gregory Lilly: It's
Kenneth Zoutte: it's very easy to use. And
Gregory Lilly: Yeah
Kenneth Zoutte: I think
Gregory Lilly: it's
Kenneth Zoutte: its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well, if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: of
Charley Dartt: But
Gregory Lilly: Device.
Kenneth Zoutte: uh
Charley Dartt: we we've got the
Kenneth Zoutte: device.
Charley Dartt: two so two uh two or three uh new things, huh? And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech, uh the scroll wheel, and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls. 'Cause
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: I
Kenneth Zoutte: yeah.
Charley Dartt: think learnable is a l a less than um easy to use. Because
Gregory Lilly: Okay.
Charley Dartt: easy to use comes after
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay,
Charley Dartt: learnable.
Kenneth Zoutte: just Easy
Charley Dartt: I I
Kenneth Zoutte: to use
Charley Dartt: think
Kenneth Zoutte: is
Charley Dartt: it
Kenneth Zoutte: very
Charley Dartt: a three
Kenneth Zoutte: cool
Charley Dartt: or
Kenneth Zoutte: so,
Charley Dartt: something.
Kenneth Zoutte: just give it a two.
Gregory Lilly: Maybe three then. Learnable's
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Antonio Colunga: Mm
Kenneth Zoutte: but definitely
Antonio Colunga: uh.
Kenneth Zoutte: better, much better than uh than uh
Antonio Colunga: The normal.
Kenneth Zoutte: than avera
Gregory Lilly: Yeah okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: average, yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know
Gregory Lilly: Yep, true. Then a two.
Charley Dartt: Oh.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: New features. Techno technological innovative?
Antonio Colunga: The speech function and
Charley Dartt: The
Antonio Colunga: the colour.
Charley Dartt: speech function
Gregory Lilly: And
Charley Dartt: is
Gregory Lilly: the
Antonio Colunga: Colour.
Gregory Lilly: scrollwheel,
Charley Dartt: new. The scrollwheel
Gregory Lilly: backlights,
Charley Dartt: and the slide. Uh
Gregory Lilly: slide.
Charley Dartt: I think the slide
Kenneth Zoutte: Slide
Charley Dartt: is
Kenneth Zoutte: is
Charley Dartt: pretty
Kenneth Zoutte: not n
Charley Dartt: new.
Kenneth Zoutte: is is not new. No. I
Charley Dartt: Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: already
Charley Dartt: I only
Kenneth Zoutte: have
Charley Dartt: saw
Kenneth Zoutte: a
Charley Dartt: it in a telephone, not in an
Kenneth Zoutte: Uh I
Charley Dartt: remote
Kenneth Zoutte: already
Charley Dartt: control.
Kenneth Zoutte: have a V_C_R_ and it's about from
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it. So
Gregory Lilly: But also slide
Kenneth Zoutte: that's not
Gregory Lilly: that
Kenneth Zoutte: new.
Gregory Lilly: buttons come out, as
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: well? Okay.
Charley Dartt: Okay, and the the the lightning?
Kenneth Zoutte: That's cool.
Charley Dartt: Is that new?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah for a
Charley Dartt: The lighting's
Kenneth Zoutte: Uh for
Charley Dartt: new.
Kenneth Zoutte: a
Antonio Colunga: Mm
Kenneth Zoutte: f
Gregory Lilly: Yes.
Antonio Colunga: it's
Charley Dartt: Scrollwheel.
Antonio Colunga: pretty new, I think.
Charley Dartt: Speech?
Antonio Colunga: Speech is new.
Gregory Lilly: Different colours, so
Charley Dartt: Yeah, different fronts for a remote control, I think that's new too.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: So we have a pretty new uh
Kenneth Zoutte: There are no
Gregory Lilly: That
Kenneth Zoutte: games
Gregory Lilly: would And
Kenneth Zoutte: on
Gregory Lilly: we
Kenneth Zoutte: it,
Gregory Lilly: didn't
Kenneth Zoutte: that's that's
Gregory Lilly: uh
Kenneth Zoutte: It's not a one, it's a two
Charley Dartt: It's
Kenneth Zoutte: again.
Charley Dartt: it's
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: it's not not L_C_D_
Gregory Lilly: But
Charley Dartt: or
Gregory Lilly: then
Charley Dartt: something.
Gregory Lilly: we also have
Kenneth Zoutte: If
Gregory Lilly: the
Kenneth Zoutte: you have
Gregory Lilly: the home station. We are forgetting about that now, but
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Uh-oh.
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh yeah, that's right.
Charley Dartt: Home-station.
Kenneth Zoutte: Rechargeable.
Gregory Lilly: We don't
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: recharge.
Antonio Colunga: we didn't draw that too, but
Gregory Lilly: But that's more like uh now.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, just draw it afterwards.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, that's just a normal th s simple
Gregory Lilly: I don't
Antonio Colunga: thing.
Gregory Lilly: know.
Kenneth Zoutte: If you Can you save it on the same, in the same map as the other ones? In the the
Gregory Lilly: Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: project uh map?
Gregory Lilly: Just save, save
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: as?
Kenneth Zoutte: Mm-hmm. Uh save as? No, that's not in the project.
Antonio Colunga: Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven.
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh yeah, okay.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Smart
Gregory Lilly: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: board. Yeah, but this one. This one is not yet in the Oh oh.
Antonio Colunga: I think it is.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, it
Antonio Colunga: No,
Gregory Lilly: is.
Antonio Colunga: I think it is.
Gregory Lilly: Uh untitled? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Save.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Charley Dartt: Uh
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: all
Kenneth Zoutte: you still have to draw the resi
Charley Dartt: the
Kenneth Zoutte: the
Charley Dartt: the seven,
Kenneth Zoutte: recharger.
Charley Dartt: uh all the
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: seven.
Kenneth Zoutte: And new features, so we give it a two or also again a one? No, I think i if you have games on it, then then you give you have a one.
Charley Dartt: No, we
Kenneth Zoutte: But
Charley Dartt: are
Kenneth Zoutte: not
Charley Dartt: not extraordinary new or something.
Kenneth Zoutte: No,
Charley Dartt: Tha
Kenneth Zoutte: just
Charley Dartt: tha
Antonio Colunga: Mm
Kenneth Zoutte: so
Gregory Lilly: N
Kenneth Zoutte: it's still
Charley Dartt: that
Kenneth Zoutte: a two.
Antonio Colunga: two, I think.
Kenneth Zoutte: Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience? Do we like
Charley Dartt: No,
Kenneth Zoutte: it?
Charley Dartt: we we we searched for uh um a young group, audience,
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, but
Charley Dartt: beneath
Kenneth Zoutte: l younger
Charley Dartt: f forty.
Kenneth Zoutte: than forty.
Charley Dartt: Yes.
Kenneth Zoutte: So we we are exactly the targeted group.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, but did we reach, um with our uh style, the targeted audience? Th that's
Kenneth Zoutte: I
Charley Dartt: my
Kenneth Zoutte: think
Charley Dartt: question.
Kenneth Zoutte: so, yeah. You get the fancy things for younger people. And
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: you get the the aesthetic things for older people. So you want
Antonio Colunga: and that's what attracts the
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: young audience. So
Charley Dartt: Yeah. Um
Antonio Colunga: think that's
Charley Dartt: the
Antonio Colunga: a
Charley Dartt: only
Antonio Colunga: two
Charley Dartt: point
Antonio Colunga: or
Charley Dartt: is
Antonio Colunga: a
Charley Dartt: that
Antonio Colunga: one.
Charley Dartt: we don't uh have uh uh That's that's That's this question.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, but s it That's basically not not handy. And I don't thi I don't see
Charley Dartt: Yeah, this. So
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: we targeted it? But we
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: didn't follow the latest trends.
Antonio Colunga: No. Yeah, you could
Gregory Lilly: Mm.
Antonio Colunga: make a
Gregory Lilly: I
Antonio Colunga: a
Gregory Lilly: think
Antonio Colunga: front
Gregory Lilly: we followed the latest trends.
Antonio Colunga: a front
Charley Dartt: Tha these
Antonio Colunga: that's
Charley Dartt: are
Antonio Colunga: that's
Charley Dartt: the only
Antonio Colunga: like
Charley Dartt: latest
Antonio Colunga: uh
Charley Dartt: uh
Antonio Colunga: like
Charley Dartt: trends
Antonio Colunga: a banana,
Charley Dartt: I uh
Antonio Colunga: or something.
Gregory Lilly: Oh right.
Charley Dartt: get on my computer.
Gregory Lilly: Well uh fruit and vegetables, yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, you get different
Gregory Lilly: You
Kenneth Zoutte: colours.
Gregory Lilly: can different front uh
Charley Dartt: Uh yeah, th So we had
Kenneth Zoutte: So
Charley Dartt: we uh have
Antonio Colunga: Like
Charley Dartt: uh
Antonio Colunga: a a
Charley Dartt: a fruit
Antonio Colunga: f
Charley Dartt: uh
Antonio Colunga: banana kind of
Charley Dartt: Oh yeah.
Antonio Colunga: front.
Charley Dartt: But spongy will never be.
Antonio Colunga: No.
Charley Dartt: So we give ourself a three or something.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: So that's eleven.
Charley Dartt: That's uh What's the average?
Antonio Colunga: Eleven divided
Kenneth Zoutte: It's
Antonio Colunga: by six.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, it is one point eight three.
Charley Dartt: A perfect score. No, I don't know.
Antonio Colunga: We're not too hard on ourselves.
Gregory Lilly: This is a a power indicator.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: So you can see how far it's charged up.
Charley Dartt: And and
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Charley Dartt: you need n uh a button to call it, to let it beep.
Gregory Lilly: To call. Um
Kenneth Zoutte: Oh
Charley Dartt: Call
Kenneth Zoutte: yeah, that's still
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, but uh we have to make a speaker then too. If you want to make it beep.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, maybe
Gregory Lilly: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: we have to skip that one.
Charley Dartt: That's
Gregory Lilly: No
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: no,
Charley Dartt: but
Gregory Lilly: I
Charley Dartt: it
Gregory Lilly: want that in.
Antonio Colunga: But we can we can do it uh underneath
Charley Dartt: No, we
Antonio Colunga: the logo.
Charley Dartt: need that. That's usable.
Antonio Colunga: If you do uh
Charley Dartt: That's really
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Charley Dartt: usable.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, th the speaker is very small as well, right?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, okay.
Charley Dartt: It's uh
Kenneth Zoutte: So
Gregory Lilly: Yes uh.
Kenneth Zoutte: I just got a financial um You s saved it
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: or
Charley Dartt: I did save it.
Kenneth Zoutte: No. Okay, let's have a look at this one here, the production cost of it. If I forgot anything, just say it to Charley Dartt. It just is a battery. Yeah, there are some that they didn't mention, because recharge is not on the list. But okay. So I think we are pretty much in the right direction, because it's twelve point three Euros.
Antonio Colunga: Mm okay. But uh
Charley Dartt: That's
Antonio Colunga: is uh
Charley Dartt: fine.
Antonio Colunga: uh
Kenneth Zoutte: So this is a regular chip incl and and a sample speaker.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: So that's both.
Charley Dartt: Come on, it's perfect. Uh twelve point three point
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: three.
Kenneth Zoutte: and single curved
Antonio Colunga: But
Kenneth Zoutte: curved.
Antonio Colunga: but is it inc Does it include a a homestation or
Kenneth Zoutte: No, that's not on the list. But that shouldn't
Antonio Colunga: Can we
Kenneth Zoutte: be.
Antonio Colunga: make that for uh h twenty cents?
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, we can uh
Kenneth Zoutte: Probably. I just The b the button supplements, I didn't I d I was wondering if this special colour maybe was
Gregory Lilly: Um
Kenneth Zoutte: I'm not sure.
Gregory Lilly: different fronts, but standard front won't be, yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: See it's I think
Charley Dartt: Special
Kenneth Zoutte: it's okay
Charley Dartt: form,
Kenneth Zoutte: like this.
Charley Dartt: yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: It's hard to say. But maybe we have to um Yeah, okay. Special colour, you can skip this one, because it's all quite normal.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: We get different ones, that's all. So you can put a recharger in it as well. But this is expensive, the sample speaker.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: This?
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, it's four.
Charley Dartt: Four. It's four Euros.
Gregory Lilly: Oh, them. Is that uh included?
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: In the twelve Euro
Charley Dartt: So
Gregory Lilly: or
Charley Dartt: we
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: are
Kenneth Zoutte: that's included.
Antonio Colunga: It's kind of
Gregory Lilly: Okay,
Antonio Colunga: weird
Gregory Lilly: then
Antonio Colunga: that we
Gregory Lilly: we then we need to use
Antonio Colunga: we
Gregory Lilly: it.
Antonio Colunga: get this information now, afterwards. Because
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, no.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, so this is uh pretty much it this.
Gregory Lilly: Damn, solar cells are uh expensive.
Kenneth Zoutte: So I just want you Yeah, we just made it. So we can do the project evalu evaluation now for uh for everything together.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay. We can do some discussion about this. Was there room for creativity?
Antonio Colunga: Sure.
Charley Dartt: Yes.
Gregory Lilly: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: Paul,
Antonio Colunga: Beautiful.
Kenneth Zoutte: was there room for crea creativity?
Gregory Lilly: Mm uh i Yeah, I think so. I think uh everyone uh already. So
Antonio Colunga: Yeah m If we got a high mark for um uh innovativeness or innovativity
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Or a different
Antonio Colunga: then
Charley Dartt: style.
Antonio Colunga: there
Gregory Lilly: I think
Antonio Colunga: we
Gregory Lilly: we
Antonio Colunga: probably
Gregory Lilly: uh discussed
Antonio Colunga: have been
Gregory Lilly: a lot
Antonio Colunga: creative.
Gregory Lilly: of things about it. So
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: Yeah. We could make a lot of different uh remote controls.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Charley Dartt: So it's creativity.
Antonio Colunga: Huh.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, so the leadership Was there a leadership and
Gregory Lilly: Of course there was.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay. What do you have to say about that?
Antonio Colunga: No,
Charley Dartt: Who was the leader?
Antonio Colunga: I think Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: I dunno.
Antonio Colunga: Just normal discussion, I think. Not
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: one leader or something.
Gregory Lilly: One leader to check the time, etcetera.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah. And make notes.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, I know.
Gregory Lilly: So more like a secretary.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay, next one. Uh team work um The the third meeting I think that one was pretty hard. We were not all We were not um
Charley Dartt: Yeah
Kenneth Zoutte: agree with every
Charley Dartt: yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: not
Charley Dartt: We
Kenneth Zoutte: agree
Charley Dartt: were not
Kenneth Zoutte: with.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: finished.
Antonio Colunga: w we
Kenneth Zoutte: We're
Antonio Colunga: had
Kenneth Zoutte: not finished.
Antonio Colunga: so much information,
Charley Dartt: Uh.
Antonio Colunga: that we get through email and just
Gregory Lilly: Uh I think we we got wrong information at the wrong time. I think that was the m biggest problem.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Like uh the prices. If we knew that before, we could have uh
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, th
Gregory Lilly: had
Antonio Colunga: that's
Gregory Lilly: discussion
Antonio Colunga: weird.
Gregory Lilly: really uh s really quicker.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, because the prices uh could be twenty Euros or something
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Charley Dartt: now.
Gregory Lilly: and if
Charley Dartt: And
Gregory Lilly: you
Charley Dartt: then
Gregory Lilly: had uh fifteen Euros, then we would it. We had
Antonio Colunga: Hmm
Gregory Lilly: to
Antonio Colunga: hmm yeah.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah, finance.
Antonio Colunga: So we're bacal basically just lucky to uh
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: get the price right.
Kenneth Zoutte: But the teamwork was okay.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, uh everybody could speak their uh opinion. And uh
Gregory Lilly: I think uh everyone listen to each other.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Like marketing said things and then we had to i include them in the design.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah. 'Kay. Yeah, what I have to say about uh means. The smart board is okay. Digital pen is horrible. I dunno if you use it. But if you want to download it to your computer, it's
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: It
Kenneth Zoutte: doesn't
Gregory Lilly: was
Kenneth Zoutte: work.
Gregory Lilly: Just doesn't work.
Kenneth Zoutte: No.
Gregory Lilly: Well uh
Charley Dartt: Digital pen or
Gregory Lilly: smart board would be very uh
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: nice to work with, if it worked really well.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, i
Gregory Lilly: Just
Antonio Colunga: if
Gregory Lilly: not
Antonio Colunga: if
Charley Dartt: Yeah,
Gregory Lilly: work
Antonio Colunga: it would
Gregory Lilly: too slow.
Antonio Colunga: be faster,
Charley Dartt: the drawings
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: it would be
Charley Dartt: are
Gregory Lilly: more accurate.
Antonio Colunga: great.
Charley Dartt: are hard to make, I think.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, it's i It should be more accurate.
Charley Dartt: Precise.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: And uh I think it would be great if you could edit it from, just with a mouse, from where you're sitting.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Not just pointing
Kenneth Zoutte: It's
Gregory Lilly: out
Kenneth Zoutte: the same
Gregory Lilly: on it.
Kenneth Zoutte: for the presenta for the presentations. You can do it from here. That's much easier than standing there.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: And so you've
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, and p just point with a mouse.
Gregory Lilly: No use to draw on the board itself. It's just slows down.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah. Just old fashioned kinda
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: blackboard style. But
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: you
Kenneth Zoutte: like.
Antonio Colunga: might as well do it in normal computer style.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, even harder to draw like
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: this than
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: black board style.
Antonio Colunga: And it's far too slow this way.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: You cou You could draw on it, but not as main function.
Antonio Colunga: No.
Kenneth Zoutte: I think Yeah, okay.
Charley Dartt: Digital pen.
Kenneth Zoutte: So we made it in time. And we made a remote control.
Gregory Lilly: We did it.
Kenneth Zoutte: In the budget, yeah.
Gregory Lilly: New ideas found.
Charley Dartt: New ideas.
Antonio Colunga: What's that?
Gregory Lilly: Oh
Charley Dartt: For for for
Kenneth Zoutte: I don't know what it mean. Just
Gregory Lilly: I just think if we uh
Charley Dartt: To gather, or to uh work together, uh or new ideas for
Gregory Lilly: I dunno.
Kenneth Zoutte: For remote control probably. No, for the project.
Gregory Lilly: For remote control, a favourite for your text.
Antonio Colunga: Hmm.
Charley Dartt: No, for the prototype. New ideas.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, but still, you couldn't make a fancy a f you couldn't make a a prototype out of this. Because we don't have any sizes and
Kenneth Zoutte: Yeah. But it's for the next team.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah,
Kenneth Zoutte: We don't
Gregory Lilly: That's
Antonio Colunga: but
Kenneth Zoutte: have to
Antonio Colunga: it
Gregory Lilly: for.
Kenneth Zoutte: do
Antonio Colunga: You
Kenneth Zoutte: that.
Antonio Colunga: can't possibly do that in such a short time, I think.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, this this is just the idea phase, the
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, just brainstorming basically.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah. Details uh
Antonio Colunga: So are we finished?
Charley Dartt: Hmm.
Kenneth Zoutte: Yes, I think just I just write a final report.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Quite early.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Kenneth Zoutte: No, we have only four minutes left. Uh it's okay.
Antonio Colunga: Oh okay.
Gregory Lilly: Oh, what do we have to do now. Do we uh I thought we were done at four o'clock?
Antonio Colunga: It's now quarter past three. So
Gregory Lilly: Yep.
Charley Dartt: I should take some pictures uh.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: Mm we can do it afterwards,
Charley Dartt: Yes.
Gregory Lilly: so
Charley Dartt: Let's play minesweeper.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah. I found it as well.
Charley Dartt: Ti-din ti-din.
Gregory Lilly: One two three four five six seven cameras. Mm not bad.
Gregory Lilly: So that was it.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah. Now we can look at this.
Gregory Lilly: This is
Antonio Colunga: We're probably not supposed to look at this, but
Gregory Lilly: The old versions.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, from the previous group.
Gregory Lilly: They went for uh for a universal
Antonio Colunga: The touchscreen,
Gregory Lilly: device.
Antonio Colunga: yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, but also a different device.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Then an L_C_D_ uh would be handy.
Antonio Colunga: Hmm. Here are the basic functions in here, the selecting dev devices.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, and touch screens for all our stuff, yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Hmm.
Gregory Lilly: I do agree with that.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, tu-dum. English is not so hard by the way.
Antonio Colunga: No.
Charley Dartt: I'm breaking a world record here.
Gregory Lilly: Well, leader?
Charley Dartt: Oh
Gregory Lilly: Project
Charley Dartt: shit.
Gregory Lilly: Manager?
Charley Dartt: We've got a problem, Paul.
Gregory Lilly: You do? Yeah,
Charley Dartt: Yes.
Gregory Lilly: you have to make a choice.
Charley Dartt: No it's your choice.
Gregory Lilly: Wow, that's pretty quick.
Charley Dartt: Tu-dum.
Gregory Lilly: Uh uh um
Charley Dartt: Just pick one.
Gregory Lilly: You have to decide. It's the lower one.
Charley Dartt: What's this? A bomb or
Gregory Lilly: No no,
Charley Dartt: not
Gregory Lilly: the upper one
Charley Dartt: a
Gregory Lilly: is the bomb.
Charley Dartt: bo This the bomb?
Gregory Lilly: Yes.
Charley Dartt: Wrong. Shit.
Gregory Lilly: I knew it.
Charley Dartt: I knew it.
Charley Dartt: Four in a row.
Gregory Lilly: No.
Charley Dartt: Uh.
Gregory Lilly: That's too much work. Come on.
Charley Dartt: Is that previous work?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, this one.
Gregory Lilly: I challenge you.
Charley Dartt: Oh, that's so stupid. No, that doesn't work.
Gregory Lilly: No, you gotta use the magic pen. Hmm. What if I put one there?
Charley Dartt: That's stupid.
Gregory Lilly: We'll see.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Gregory Lilly: I don't agree.
Charley Dartt: Mm.
Charley Dartt: Sorry.
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, you had two choices. That's gonna be draw. Or not.
Antonio Colunga: Hmm.
Charley Dartt: Too bad.
Gregory Lilly: I'll put it here.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, then
Gregory Lilly: You
Charley Dartt: I
Gregory Lilly: are
Charley Dartt: put
Gregory Lilly: going
Charley Dartt: it
Gregory Lilly: to
Charley Dartt: there.
Gregory Lilly: put it there. Then
Charley Dartt: No one wins.
Gregory Lilly: It's a difficult choice, either here or there.
Antonio Colunga: This is a very interesting design.
Gregory Lilly: Ugly.
Charley Dartt: It's just the same as normal.
Gregory Lilly: Oh a pen.
Antonio Colunga: Well it has a L_C_D_,
Gregory Lilly: Yeah,
Antonio Colunga: I
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: think.
Gregory Lilly: but Then do it correctly.
Charley Dartt: Stupid
Antonio Colunga: And
Charley Dartt: design.
Antonio Colunga: what
Charley Dartt: Stupid.
Antonio Colunga: else do
Gregory Lilly: Stupid,
Antonio Colunga: we have?
Gregory Lilly: the L_C_D_ screen.
Charley Dartt: 'Kay wait, I'm going to draw something and you must y
Gregory Lilly: What? Okay, I'm going to guess what you're drawing.
Charley Dartt: Okay, blank.
Gregory Lilly: No no, the new one.
Charley Dartt: Oh.
Gregory Lilly: Uh they just don't save it.
Charley Dartt: Um I know uh.
Gregory Lilly: A house? Yeah, you have to use the pen s stupid.
Kenneth Zoutte: You have to save everything, you know that, huh?
Gregory Lilly: No, not everything.
Charley Dartt: Oh.
Antonio Colunga: Yeah, everything.
Gregory Lilly: Pen, select
Charley Dartt: Pen.
Gregory Lilly: select pen.
Antonio Colunga: It wants to know what we do in our spare time.
Gregory Lilly: Okay. It's a house. A plant?
Charley Dartt: No, it's Only you can know it.
Gregory Lilly: Oh yeah, I can know it. It's a
Charley Dartt: It's uh very hard to draw.
Gregory Lilly: Okay, that makes it easier. I think I know. No, wrong.
Charley Dartt: Mm.
Gregory Lilly: I think I know what you're trying to draw, but it's wrong already.
Charley Dartt: It's very
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, you missed the right side.
Charley Dartt: Fuck. F
Gregory Lilly: No, you're wrong, you're wrong
Charley Dartt: A little bit maybe, but
Gregory Lilly: See where you're wrong now? The entrance.
Charley Dartt: Yeah.
Antonio Colunga: Warning. Finish meeting now.
Gregory Lilly: Alright.
Charley Dartt: Okay, the entrance is uh more to the left.
Antonio Colunga: Warning. Warning.
Gregory Lilly: You're correct.
Charley Dartt: Okay. But but but I think this part
Gregory Lilly: Yeah, but I think Oh no you made another mistake.
Charley Dartt: Oh. Yeah, there are a lot of mistakes, because the walls are thick like this.
Gregory Lilly: No I w Okay, I'm not that whiny. But uh there was a big hole here as well, and
Charley Dartt: Oh,
Gregory Lilly: there
Charley Dartt: that's
Gregory Lilly: as well.
Charley Dartt: true. Uh here.
Gregory Lilly: That's a kinda big mistake.
Charley Dartt: Yeah, they're walking behind the walls.
Gregory Lilly: Warning, finish meeting now. Guys, I think we have to finish the meeting.
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Charley Dartt: 'Kay this is a hard one.
Gregory Lilly: Uh?
Antonio Colunga: Boom-boa-ring-bing.
Gregory Lilly: What does it say?
Antonio Colunga: Fill in the questionnaire. What now?
Gregory Lilly: Come on.
Kenneth Zoutte: Okay,
Antonio Colunga: Okay.
Kenneth Zoutte: yeah.
Gregory Lilly: Yep.
Charley Dartt: Okay.
Antonio Colunga: No more chit-chat.
Gregory Lilly: Oh you gotta finish
Charley Dartt: Che-che-che-che.
Gregory Lilly: over there?
Antonio Colunga: Yeah.
Gregory Lilly: In your own room?
Charley Dartt: Tu-dumm.
Gregory Lilly: I'm gonna be so lonely.
Charley Dartt: Uh.
Gregory Lilly: Mm I'll clean that up later.
Charley Dartt: This is That's my new interface.
Gregory Lilly: What's that?
Charley Dartt: That's a uh edited smiley.
Charley Dartt: Tom-ti-dom. Uh.
Antonio Colunga: Okay. | Kenneth Zoutte presented the agenda and the minutes from the previous meeting. The group discussed speech recognition , whether the remote should slide open or fold open, and what type of chip they should use. The designers presented the prototype, which resembles an ipod in appearance, and is made of transparent coloured plastic. The colours will be changeable. The remote has both buttons and a scroll wheel. The number buttons have a back-light. The group discussed adding extra buttons/functions. The prototype was evaluated and received an average overall score of 1.8. Kenneth Zoutte went through the finances, and the total cost came to 12.3 euros, although this did not include the cost of the recharger, which was not on the price list. The group evaluated the project process, and were generally pleased with their creativity and teamwork, but were unsatisfied with the equipment. | 1 | amisum | test |
David Jimenez: Okay. Uh first of all I'll start with the costs, because that's going to influence
Aaron Ratchford: Oh no.
David Jimenez: our design.
Jon Reyes: Oh,
David Jimenez: If you Don't know if you al already had a look or not?
Richard Stanley: Did you
Aaron Ratchford: No
Richard Stanley: do your
Aaron Ratchford: n
Jon Reyes: No.
Richard Stanley: questionnaire already?
Aaron Ratchford: I I already did it. It's not much. It's just
David Jimenez: Because
Aaron Ratchford: one
Richard Stanley: Uh
Aaron Ratchford: question.
Jon Reyes: Oh
David Jimenez: we have a problem. If you look closely,
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: you can see.
Richard Stanley: It wants
David Jimenez: Um I already took the liberty to make some suggestions.
David Jimenez: At the moment we have fifteen buttons, one L_C_D_ screen, one advanced chip-on-print. We use a uh sensor, that's for the speech. Uh we use kinetic energy. And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour. Okay. What's the first thing we should drop? The special colour of the buttons?
Aaron Ratchford: No that's that's for the trendy uh
David Jimenez: Okay.
Aaron Ratchford: feel and look. So
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: Uh
Richard Stanley: but everything is.
David Jimenez: Should we switch to a hand dynamo? Uh that's
Jon Reyes: No.
David Jimenez: the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah,
David Jimenez: it
Aaron Ratchford: b
David Jimenez: and do
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: things.
Aaron Ratchford: but
Jon Reyes: but young people like that. So
David Jimenez: Batteries?
Jon Reyes: just do normal battery.
David Jimenez: Batteries.
Aaron Ratchford: I think
Richard Stanley: Just
Aaron Ratchford: the
Richard Stanley: a
Aaron Ratchford: battery
Richard Stanley: normal
Aaron Ratchford: option.
Richard Stanley: battery then, yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. It has to be twelve and a half.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Or not?
Aaron Ratchford: Oh.
Richard Stanley: Oh my goodness.
David Jimenez: So You're going to redesign something.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh no.
David Jimenez: Okay, so we're at twenty five.
Jon Reyes: Uh, yeah.
David Jimenez: Um Do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved?
Richard Stanley: Well I guess i we'll have to go for single curve then. I mean we have to drop on everything.
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: But
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved, but from the side it's it's flat, and
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: the screen screen is just Well you just have to hold it like this then. So
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: How
David Jimenez: Um
Richard Stanley: about Sorry.
David Jimenez: Uh another option I saw was to drop the buttons one through nine, so you can't directly access a channel, but instead use only the up and down arrows.
Richard Stanley: That's what
David Jimenez: That
Richard Stanley: I
David Jimenez: would
Richard Stanley: was thinking.
David Jimenez: skip
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: nine buttons and four and a half Euros.
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Jon Reyes: Let's
Richard Stanley: A a
Jon Reyes: do it then. Yeah.
David Jimenez: Uh then
Aaron Ratchford: But
David Jimenez: we have
Aaron Ratchford: we
David Jimenez: left
Aaron Ratchford: don't have any basic options any more.
David Jimenez: Uh yeah. We do.
Richard Stanley: And uh
Jon Reyes: F_
Richard Stanley: 'cause
Jon Reyes: eight.
Richard Stanley: then they don't have to n They don't need special colour as well.
David Jimenez: They don't need special colours. Fine. That's more like it.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: You were saying something.
Richard Stanley: That was exactly my point. Like
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: let's drop all the buttons, and just make one I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway.
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Richard Stanley: So we'll just have to use it for everything.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: And then you can make an overview of channels in the screen, and select a channel,
David Jimenez: Yeah, some
Richard Stanley: click
David Jimenez: more menu options. Yeah. Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons. But um Now let's look.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah we c could We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing. Everything you can do with with menu. So
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Aaron Ratchford: With the
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: display.
Richard Stanley: we need one integrated button for everything
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: then.
Jon Reyes: The joystick.
Richard Stanley: Yeah. Kind of. I was
David Jimenez: Uh
Richard Stanley: Because Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah, scroll-wheel, push-button uh
Jon Reyes: Integrated
Richard Stanley: If you if you go
Jon Reyes: scroll-wheel
Richard Stanley: to
Jon Reyes: push-button,
Richard Stanley: If
Jon Reyes: yeah.
Richard Stanley: you go to our uh view, like you if you are in the sound system there,
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: uh and you wanna adjust the treble for instance,
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: this is just uh an example,
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Richard Stanley: y y you wanna see a bar on which you can adjust it from
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Richard Stanley: zero to ten for example.
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Richard Stanley: But you want a sound preview of how it's gonna sound, right? So
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: you wanna click on it, activate it, whe and when you move it, hear the difference of the treble coming out
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: or going into the sound. So you'll you'll need a a kind of a joystick
Jon Reyes: Yeah or
Richard Stanley: uh
Jon Reyes: or the
Richard Stanley: button.
Jon Reyes: integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: So that's kind of on your mouse and then you can click it, adjust it, click again and then you're out of it. But
Richard Stanley: Exactly.
Jon Reyes: you still But you then still need to have Well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels. But you still um
Richard Stanley: Yeah it's r Yeah.
Jon Reyes: You still have to have some some button in the
Aaron Ratchford: So
Jon Reyes: menu
Aaron Ratchford: you do one
Jon Reyes: to go
Aaron Ratchford: inte
Jon Reyes: back.
Aaron Ratchford: You can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: And then just drop all the other buttons.
David Jimenez: Uh yeah.
Jon Reyes: Well not all. Not
Aaron Ratchford: But
Jon Reyes: s not sound
Aaron Ratchford: but
Jon Reyes: I
Aaron Ratchford: th
Jon Reyes: guess.
Aaron Ratchford: the cost of one
Richard Stanley: No.
Aaron Ratchford: integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons.
David Jimenez: Yeah. It's uh One integrated button is five times the cost of a normal
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: button.
Jon Reyes: Mm.
Aaron Ratchford: So we
David Jimenez: So
Aaron Ratchford: have to to make it s uh more uh It has
David Jimenez: You
Aaron Ratchford: to be
David Jimenez: could also drop j three more of these, without losing much functionality.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: You
Jon Reyes: Wh
David Jimenez: just
Jon Reyes: wh
David Jimenez: drop
Jon Reyes: what
David Jimenez: the
Jon Reyes: what
David Jimenez: Okay
Jon Reyes: what
David Jimenez: and
Jon Reyes: is
David Jimenez: the Back.
Jon Reyes: the what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker?
David Jimenez: Oh, that's for the speech.
Jon Reyes: Speech recognition.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Could
Jon Reyes: Right.
Aaron Ratchford: drop the speech recognition.
David Jimenez: S s Drop speech recognition?
Richard Stanley: No but
David Jimenez: Yeah that's
Aaron Ratchford: We
David Jimenez: possible.
Aaron Ratchford: we d
Richard Stanley: Yeah it's it's expensive, but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition. 'Cause it can take the function of a lot of uh
David Jimenez: Buttons.
Jon Reyes: Buttons.
Richard Stanley: uh buttons.
David Jimenez: That's
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: not
Richard Stanley: I
David Jimenez: very easy to use.
Jon Reyes: No,
Richard Stanley: No.
Jon Reyes: it can be disturbed by by noise and
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: stuff
Richard Stanley: but lets
Jon Reyes: like
Richard Stanley: just say that
Jon Reyes: that. Let
Richard Stanley: the speech
Jon Reyes: let let
Richard Stanley: recognition
Jon Reyes: Jon Reyes see what's more
Richard Stanley: works.
Jon Reyes: what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: I have to look on that. Let Jon Reyes see. Uh well no I was wrong. There are more people who like speech recognition than
David Jimenez: Yep.
Jon Reyes: an L_C_D_ screen.
David Jimenez: Okay. Because if you d
Jon Reyes: But
David Jimenez: lose
Jon Reyes: if it
David Jimenez: the L_C_D_ screen,
Jon Reyes: But it
David Jimenez: we
Jon Reyes: it it's a it's a both
Aaron Ratchford: We
Jon Reyes: a
Aaron Ratchford: lose
David Jimenez: need
Jon Reyes: hypers
Aaron Ratchford: our
David Jimenez: a lot
Aaron Ratchford: whole
David Jimenez: of
Aaron Ratchford: concept. Uh
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: so No we
David Jimenez: We need
Aaron Ratchford: just
David Jimenez: a
Jon Reyes: No,
David Jimenez: lot of extra
Jon Reyes: but
David Jimenez: buttons.
Aaron Ratchford: We keep
Jon Reyes: Well
Aaron Ratchford: the
Jon Reyes: we
Aaron Ratchford: L_C_D_.
Jon Reyes: Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent, uh
Richard Stanley: We
David Jimenez: Okay
Jon Reyes: sixty
Richard Stanley: uh we
David Jimenez: so
Jon Reyes: six
Richard Stanley: we
David Jimenez: we drop
Jon Reyes: to
Richard Stanley: haven't
Jon Reyes: seventy
David Jimenez: the speech.
Richard Stanley: really
Jon Reyes: six.
Richard Stanley: integrated this the speech into the system, so we can might as well s
David Jimenez: And
Richard Stanley: drop
David Jimenez: drop
Richard Stanley: that.
David Jimenez: it
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: yeah?
Jon Reyes: Let's
David Jimenez: Okay.
Jon Reyes: drop
David Jimenez: S
Jon Reyes: the speech.
David Jimenez: Fo Four less Euros.
Jon Reyes: Sixteen
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: Euros.
David Jimenez: we still have three and a half Euro to lose.
Richard Stanley: We need
Jon Reyes: But
Richard Stanley: to
Jon Reyes: y y
Richard Stanley: lose some buttons.
David Jimenez: Yeah if you lose the the Back, the Okay button Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows,
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: and the Menu button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Then
Jon Reyes: And
David Jimenez: you're
Jon Reyes: then and then use um
David Jimenez: Oh and the power button we have also.
Jon Reyes: The the Okay. And the menu button does also does the okay function then.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: And then when you in the menu
David Jimenez: So that's one
Jon Reyes: S
David Jimenez: Euro.
Jon Reyes: so so you activate the menu.
Aaron Ratchford: If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons, we
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: can drop all the the push-buttons.
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Aaron Ratchford: With
David Jimenez: And
Aaron Ratchford: with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: With
Jon Reyes: yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: the other, we can do the the channel, the volume, et cetera.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: That would save zero point two Euros compared to No.
Aaron Ratchford: No it's three Euros. No? Um
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: No
David Jimenez: To
Aaron Ratchford: it's
David Jimenez: This
Aaron Ratchford: it's
David Jimenez: together
Aaron Ratchford: n Yeah.
David Jimenez: is more expensive than
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah yeah
David Jimenez: Oof,
Aaron Ratchford: yeah.
David Jimenez: it's almost the same as t keeping this.
Jon Reyes: Well okay.
David Jimenez: And we can
Jon Reyes: For
David Jimenez: drop
Aaron Ratchford: It's
Jon Reyes: example
David Jimenez: these
Aaron Ratchford: the
Jon Reyes: if you have f
David Jimenez: two.
Jon Reyes: f four buttons, channel up and down, uh volume
David Jimenez: Volume.
Jon Reyes: left right Okay, I've I think we have to keep that.
David Jimenez: And the
Jon Reyes: And
David Jimenez: power
Jon Reyes: then
David Jimenez: button.
Jon Reyes: and the power button. So that's five.
David Jimenez: That's the basic.
Jon Reyes: That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu, um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel, the the the menu gets activated, and then you can scroll, choose an option, click on it, it goes into an feature. Click on it again, selects features, scroll, adjust it. Click again, it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option, you set a you set an a screen thing what says back, and you select that one, click again, and you go one step back. And in that menu, scroll, click, one step back. So that then you need five buttons,
David Jimenez: Yep.
Jon Reyes: and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Richard Stanley: Which
Jon Reyes: But
David Jimenez: Okay
Jon Reyes: we
David Jimenez: th
Jon Reyes: can't
David Jimenez: that's
Richard Stanley: That's
Jon Reyes: drop three buttons. But I
Richard Stanley: even
Jon Reyes: see
David Jimenez: Yeah
Jon Reyes: that's
David Jimenez: that's one Euro more expensive.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. So that's not a good
David Jimenez: That's
Jon Reyes: idea.
David Jimenez: not an option.
Jon Reyes: Because which buttons do we have now? Those five which I mentioned, and then menu, and
David Jimenez: Menu,
Jon Reyes: then
David Jimenez: power.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. F of the four things?
David Jimenez: Four arrows?
Jon Reyes: Yeah, th power.
David Jimenez: Power. Uh
Jon Reyes: Which
Richard Stanley: Yeah, if
Jon Reyes: more?
Richard Stanley: you if you go to eight I don't know how to
David Jimenez: Yeah. Okay. So four arrows?
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: Power.
David Jimenez: power I believe?
Jon Reyes: Th Yeah that's five.
David Jimenez: Uh We have a Back and a Okay button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, okay that's seven,
David Jimenez: And
Jon Reyes: and
David Jimenez: the
Jon Reyes: one to activate the menu,
David Jimenez: Menu.
Jon Reyes: yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display. Oh, well
David Jimenez: Yeah,
Jon Reyes: okay.
David Jimenez: and even if we drop three buttons from here, we still have to make some adjustments around here. So
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah, we need the chip for the for the
David Jimenez: The
Richard Stanley: L_C_
David Jimenez: L_C_D_?
Richard Stanley: display.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Let's
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: make
Jon Reyes: well we
Aaron Ratchford: the
Jon Reyes: need
Aaron Ratchford: Let's
Jon Reyes: the
Aaron Ratchford: make
Jon Reyes: advanced
Aaron Ratchford: the case plastic.
Jon Reyes: Instead
David Jimenez: Then I rather
Jon Reyes: of r
David Jimenez: make it wood. Because then also it's good in the market with the
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: forty five plus uh
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: people.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Richard Stanley: True.
Jon Reyes: but but that's not
Aaron Ratchford: But
Jon Reyes: our market.
David Jimenez: No that maybe not. But maybe it's better than plastic anyway.
Jon Reyes: Ah no, hard plastic.
Aaron Ratchford: Plastic
Richard Stanley: Oh.
Aaron Ratchford: with a with a special colour. A
Jon Reyes: Yeah,
Aaron Ratchford: woo wood
Jon Reyes: plastic
Aaron Ratchford: uh wood
Jon Reyes: with special
Aaron Ratchford: uh wood
Jon Reyes: colour.
Aaron Ratchford: colour.
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Aaron Ratchford: That's
David Jimenez: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: an option.
David Jimenez: okay
Jon Reyes: No
David Jimenez: uh
Jon Reyes: but I I Because we have to use the special colour anyway. You forgot that.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yep. Yeah, yeah.
Jon Reyes: So
Aaron Ratchford: So
Jon Reyes: let's
Aaron Ratchford: we do
Jon Reyes: go
Aaron Ratchford: one
Jon Reyes: for the plastic.
Aaron Ratchford: one s Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah, okay. Plastic.
Jon Reyes: And since it's not kinetic, it doesn't have to flip
David Jimenez: Uh that's
Jon Reyes: around
David Jimenez: easy
Jon Reyes: that
David Jimenez: because
Jon Reyes: much?
David Jimenez: plastic
Richard Stanley: Hmm.
David Jimenez: is free.
Aaron Ratchford: Hmm.
Jon Reyes: We still have problem of two Euros.
David Jimenez: Yeah, okay. Uh if we dropped uh
Aaron Ratchford: No the buttons, those are really needed.
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah
Jon Reyes: we can't
Aaron Ratchford: th th
Jon Reyes: drop
Aaron Ratchford: it's
Jon Reyes: them.
Aaron Ratchford: it's uh An advanced chip-on-print.
Richard Stanley: Yeah uh
David Jimenez: You still need
Richard Stanley: You
Jon Reyes: Do we
David Jimenez: that.
Jon Reyes: really need
Richard Stanley: uh uh
Jon Reyes: that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display?
Richard Stanley: Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker, and Which can use a regular chip, wh which is six Euros
David Jimenez: S
Richard Stanley: in total. That doesn't matter.
Jon Reyes: Oh.
David Jimenez: No,
Jon Reyes: I rather
David Jimenez: I
Jon Reyes: keep
David Jimenez: keep
Jon Reyes: I rather
David Jimenez: the re
Jon Reyes: keep the display.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Well
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: yeah.
David Jimenez: Because
Jon Reyes: So
David Jimenez: we already designed for
Jon Reyes: the
David Jimenez: it.
Jon Reyes: only
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: option is an hand
Richard Stanley: Exactly.
Jon Reyes: dynamo.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
David Jimenez: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: that
David Jimenez: and something else.
Jon Reyes: Oh no tha Oh that's
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: one
Richard Stanley: but
Jon Reyes: Euro,
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: right.
Richard Stanley: uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And
Jon Reyes: And
Richard Stanley: then
Jon Reyes: then
Richard Stanley: if
Jon Reyes: integrated
Richard Stanley: w
Jon Reyes: s Yeah but that would make it not so
David Jimenez: No
Jon Reyes: easy
David Jimenez: y
Jon Reyes: to use.
David Jimenez: you
Jon Reyes: I mean it's
David Jimenez: would
Jon Reyes: not
David Jimenez: rec
Jon Reyes: that important, easy to use, but
David Jimenez: Then you
Richard Stanley: Th then we have
David Jimenez: have
Richard Stanley: to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want,
David Jimenez: Then you
Richard Stanley: huh?
David Jimenez: still
Richard Stanley: And
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: need
Richard Stanley: uh
David Jimenez: two additional buttons I believe. For
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: the volume.
Richard Stanley: d at l
David Jimenez: You
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: can use those Yeah.
Richard Stanley: At least one for power.
Aaron Ratchford: But
David Jimenez: Oh
Aaron Ratchford: the
David Jimenez: yeah and power. That's
Richard Stanley: Oh.
David Jimenez: three buttons and this would
Richard Stanley: Yeah it's
David Jimenez: cost
Richard Stanley: just as expensive as what
Aaron Ratchford: But
Richard Stanley: we
Aaron Ratchford: the
Richard Stanley: have
Aaron Ratchford: integrated
Richard Stanley: now.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: uh button? How many func functions can it uh have?
David Jimenez: Three. Up, down,
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: Okay.
Richard Stanley: endlessly. I mean it can
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Richard Stanley: be a power button as soon as it powered on. You
Jon Reyes: You
Richard Stanley: can
Jon Reyes: you
Richard Stanley: go
Jon Reyes: press
Richard Stanley: into
Jon Reyes: it for
Richard Stanley: you
Jon Reyes: like three
Richard Stanley: in
Jon Reyes: seconds.
Richard Stanley: you main menu, you can choose uh flip channel, uh you can choose sound options, any options.
Jon Reyes: Then then then you should do everything in the menu.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: On the screen.
David Jimenez: Yeah, okay. It
Richard Stanley: Maybe
David Jimenez: would
Richard Stanley: we
David Jimenez: save
Richard Stanley: should. 'Cause we
David Jimenez: enough
Richard Stanley: don't have money and w we
David Jimenez: Yeah
Richard Stanley: want
David Jimenez: you
Richard Stanley: the
David Jimenez: can
Richard Stanley: screen.
David Jimenez: choose this, drop these, then we have a half Euro left.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: So we can maybe still use power button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah,
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: but we'd Alright.
Richard Stanley: I guess
Jon Reyes: It
Richard Stanley: we
Jon Reyes: s
Richard Stanley: have
Jon Reyes: it saves
Richard Stanley: to.
Jon Reyes: us four Euros and it costs us two and a half. So let's see, we
Richard Stanley: We'll
Jon Reyes: we drop
Richard Stanley: we'll
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: be
Jon Reyes: the price
Richard Stanley: on
David Jimenez: You see?
Jon Reyes: by one and a half. But we still have thirteen
David Jimenez: Oh still
Jon Reyes: left.
David Jimenez: Yeah? Oh then I miscalculated. Oh yeah. Shit.
Jon Reyes: There
David Jimenez: Drop
Jon Reyes: goes
David Jimenez: the special
Jon Reyes: the special co
Aaron Ratchford: Oh no.
Jon Reyes: Well
David Jimenez: colour.
Jon Reyes: That would make it less appealing. So that's no option.
David Jimenez: 'Kay. What else? Uncurved?
Aaron Ratchford: No no, it has to be um
Jon Reyes: We sure
Aaron Ratchford: curved.
Jon Reyes: about the advanced chip we need for the display?
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah it says right here.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
David Jimenez: They made
Jon Reyes: Well
David Jimenez: it very easy for us.
Jon Reyes: yeah. yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display, but
David Jimenez: Ah,
Jon Reyes: it's a cool
David Jimenez: I
Jon Reyes: feature.
David Jimenez: don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say, this is better for the market so you sell more
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
David Jimenez: than
Aaron Ratchford: Wh what we could do is um drop the the special colour,
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: and uh do the special colour for the buttons.
David Jimenez: Buttons. That's Oh yeah since we only have one button.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour?
David Jimenez: I just
Aaron Ratchford: Just
David Jimenez: m
Aaron Ratchford: something
David Jimenez: I don't
Aaron Ratchford: else
David Jimenez: I
Aaron Ratchford: than
David Jimenez: think
Aaron Ratchford: than black or white
David Jimenez: Uh
Aaron Ratchford: I think.
David Jimenez: yeah it's I think it's grey, regular.
Jon Reyes: S yeah. Alright.
David Jimenez: Grey and rubber.
Richard Stanley: But we definitely want
David Jimenez: Of
Richard Stanley: the
David Jimenez: plastic.
Richard Stanley: thing to be a special colour
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: though.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. So I rather
Richard Stanley: Damn.
Jon Reyes: have an hand dynamo
Richard Stanley: Yeah and then
Jon Reyes: than than drop the colour.
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: You
Richard Stanley: yeah
Jon Reyes: can still
Richard Stanley: yeah
Jon Reyes: play
Richard Stanley: yeah.
Jon Reyes: with it then I guess. I don't know.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option.
Aaron Ratchford: The display
Richard Stanley: Well,
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: you only have to
Aaron Ratchford: The
Richard Stanley: power it up when you wanna use it.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: But if
Richard Stanley: I
Aaron Ratchford: you
Richard Stanley: don't
Aaron Ratchford: have
Richard Stanley: know.
Aaron Ratchford: to power the for ten minutes, then
David Jimenez: No
Aaron Ratchford: the
David Jimenez: I don't think
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: the current status of uh chips are pretty uh
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: energy conserving, no.
Jon Reyes: Yeah true.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.
David Jimenez: Yeah hand dynamo? Do you want an extra button?
Jon Reyes: Or or do we Or do we do uncurved and flat? Instead of
Aaron Ratchford: No no it has to be curved.
Jon Reyes: Yeah it
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: has to be curved and
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: has to have that colour.
Aaron Ratchford: Just put
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: a
Jon Reyes: And
Aaron Ratchford: special
Jon Reyes: a screen.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: special
Richard Stanley: That's
Aaron Ratchford: colour
Richard Stanley: the most
Aaron Ratchford: of the buttons,
Richard Stanley: import
Aaron Ratchford: or something.
David Jimenez: Yep? Instead of
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah or
David Jimenez: an
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: additional
Aaron Ratchford: spe
David Jimenez: power
Aaron Ratchford: special
David Jimenez: button?
Aaron Ratchford: form?
Jon Reyes: S what what is special f Oh yeah, special form.
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Jon Reyes: Maybe that's nicer.
David Jimenez: It's for scroll
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: But
David Jimenez: Without
Jon Reyes: we don't have any buttons. So
Richard Stanley: We only
Jon Reyes: do
Richard Stanley: have
Jon Reyes: d Uh make
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: it a
Aaron Ratchford: But
Jon Reyes: special
Aaron Ratchford: it's
Jon Reyes: colour
Aaron Ratchford: it's for
Jon Reyes: then.
Aaron Ratchford: the integrated button, I think also. Or
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: ma
Richard Stanley: but
Jon Reyes: make it a special colour
David Jimenez: Yeah
Jon Reyes: then.
David Jimenez: but it's just a scroll-wheel which
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: you can push
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
David Jimenez: down.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: Okay. Make
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Jon Reyes: it a special colour and then it look fancy.
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: So
David Jimenez: Woah we're within budget.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: It's
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
David Jimenez: a
Jon Reyes: Let's
David Jimenez: miracle.
Aaron Ratchford: just oh
Jon Reyes: let's
Aaron Ratchford: ma
Jon Reyes: save
Aaron Ratchford: make
Jon Reyes: it.
Aaron Ratchford: it two special colours, but we only have one button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Jon Reyes: Let's do it like this, I mean, because
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Jon Reyes: it does not lose our identity of the product as we
David Jimenez: Okay. Um, well. 'Kay, this was old.
Richard Stanley: Well we come back to the drawing board then, huh?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah back to work.
Jon Reyes: Yeah all
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Jon Reyes: your
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: designs are uh pretty much
Richard Stanley: It's
David Jimenez: Did
Richard Stanley: silly
David Jimenez: I
Richard Stanley: 'cause we we
David Jimenez: save
Richard Stanley: should have had this
David Jimenez: it?
Richard Stanley: meeting before we start drawing.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah but that but that's the fun part of
David Jimenez: I
Jon Reyes: it.
David Jimenez: I wanted to go,
Richard Stanley: Oh yeah?
David Jimenez: but I wasn't allowed. So
Richard Stanley: okay.
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.
Jon Reyes: Yeah what's the next uh phase?
David Jimenez: Yeah, this the last phase of course, so
Jon Reyes: Uh the agenda. By your humble P_M_.
David Jimenez: Hmm.
Jon Reyes: Oh f
David Jimenez: Oh.
Jon Reyes: Frustrated. Alright. Yeah.
David Jimenez: Okay. Um Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation. But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense, because we had to
Richard Stanley: Drop
David Jimenez: drop
Richard Stanley: everything.
David Jimenez: it.
Jon Reyes: Drop, yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Uh
Richard Stanley: We went straight into finance?
David Jimenez: Yeah. Yeah it was more important, so
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: I
Richard Stanley: For
David Jimenez: just
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: pushed
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: up the agenda. Uh, evaluation criteria. You have t
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: produced
Jon Reyes: that
David Jimenez: something
Jon Reyes: that's
David Jimenez: about that?
Jon Reyes: Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so
David Jimenez: Uh you put it in the.
Jon Reyes: We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements. Alright.
David Jimenez: F_ five.
Jon Reyes: Let's make it big. Um Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale, as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false, and then on a scale of seven points, a scale,
Richard Stanley: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: as we all know it. Um Well the criteria are based on the user requirements, uh the trends from the marketing research, and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document, which I will open now.
David Jimenez: Alt up
Jon Reyes: Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this? Oh. I don't know.
David Jimenez: Freaky.
Jon Reyes: Um Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that?
Richard Stanley: I think it does. Because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_, right?
David Jimenez: Yeah. Uh, of course
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: we dropped
Jon Reyes: the us
David Jimenez: a
Jon Reyes: u
David Jimenez: little bit of those uh
Jon Reyes: It it it's
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions, in
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: this question. So do you think
Richard Stanley: Well, we have extended menus, on
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: You
Richard Stanley: on the
Jon Reyes: can
Richard Stanley: L_C_D_
Jon Reyes: you can ma
Richard Stanley: screen.
Jon Reyes: Yeah,
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
Richard Stanley: So
Jon Reyes: you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited,
Richard Stanley: I
Jon Reyes: to to build in menus in the screen.
Richard Stanley: No.
Jon Reyes: So on a scale from one to seven, what do you
Aaron Ratchford: Two
Jon Reyes: think?
Aaron Ratchford: or three.
Jon Reyes: Huh?
Aaron Ratchford: Two or three.
Jon Reyes: Two or three? Something like that? Well we
David Jimenez: Two.
Jon Reyes: have
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: to choose one. So uh what do you say?
David Jimenez: Uh y
Jon Reyes: I agree
David Jimenez: we should
Jon Reyes: on two.
David Jimenez: fill this in now.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah okay.
Jon Reyes: I
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: uh I say two, personally. But
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah in
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: the
Richard Stanley: alright.
David Jimenez: new design I s would say it's three. But now, in original design I say
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: two.
Jon Reyes: well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now.
David Jimenez: Okay then I say three.
Jon Reyes: Yeah? You say three,
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: and you you
Richard Stanley: yeah.
Jon Reyes: said al also three? Three?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Okay well I say still two, but it has to be three then.
David Jimenez: Hey, you're marketing, eh.
Jon Reyes: Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's
David Jimenez: Hmm.
Jon Reyes: nah, it's
David Jimenez: M
Jon Reyes: not very
David Jimenez: maybe
Jon Reyes: clear
David Jimenez: underline.
Jon Reyes: on the sc
Aaron Ratchford: Or give it a colour.
Jon Reyes: Maybe other colour, yeah. That's better. Uh
David Jimenez: Red.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Alright. Oh, it doesn't have to be bold anymore. Alright.
David Jimenez: Oh yeah very true.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah true one.
Jon Reyes: Um well the remote
David Jimenez: He
Jon Reyes: control
David Jimenez: types everything.
Jon Reyes: has Wha
Richard Stanley: Definitely one.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: It has to be.
Jon Reyes: The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings
Aaron Ratchford: It
Jon Reyes: and
Aaron Ratchford: hides
Jon Reyes: screen settings.
Aaron Ratchford: uh
David Jimenez: Everything.
Aaron Ratchford: basic functions.
David Jimenez: You don't
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: use anything
Jon Reyes: Well,
David Jimenez: else.
Jon Reyes: yeah. So
Richard Stanley: You're
Jon Reyes: it
Richard Stanley: not gonna
Jon Reyes: it's
Richard Stanley: find
Jon Reyes: a very
Richard Stanley: them.
Jon Reyes: true point. I mean
David Jimenez: Yeah. Yeah
Jon Reyes: it hides
David Jimenez: okay.
Jon Reyes: all those function.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah
Jon Reyes: But, I mean
Aaron Ratchford: true.
Jon Reyes: uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them, you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: F I don't know where. So that's very true, I guess, for our case. Uh
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: the
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: second
Richard Stanley: next
Jon Reyes: point.
Richard Stanley: Not so much
Jon Reyes: It
Richard Stanley: so.
Jon Reyes: shows the relevant and most used functions.
David Jimenez: Nope.
Jon Reyes: Power button. Do we ha still have a power button?
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: Well yeah the button's integrated,
David Jimenez: check with the
Jon Reyes: huh?
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Excel sheet.
Aaron Ratchford: I think
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: we
Richard Stanley: it's
Aaron Ratchford: are
Richard Stanley: uh it's integrated.
Jon Reyes: Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push
Aaron Ratchford: It's
Jon Reyes: it
Aaron Ratchford: in
Jon Reyes: in
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
Jon Reyes: for
Aaron Ratchford: yeah it was integrateds.
David Jimenez: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: integrate
Jon Reyes: just just
David Jimenez: it.
Jon Reyes: push it in for th for three seconds or something, and then
Richard Stanley: E exactly
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: just like a m
Jon Reyes: I
Richard Stanley: mobile.
Jon Reyes: don't
David Jimenez: Just go scrolling and it
Jon Reyes: know.
David Jimenez: will
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: activate.
Jon Reyes: Um it shows the relevant and most used functions. Yeah uh on the other uh on one side I would say yes, and the other side I would say no. So it's I don't know.
David Jimenez: It shows the most used functions and they are relevant,
Aaron Ratchford: Can you uh
David Jimenez: but
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: change channels directly with with just one button? No, you have to
Jon Reyes: With
Aaron Ratchford: scroll
Jon Reyes: the scroll
Aaron Ratchford: through
Jon Reyes: butt
Aaron Ratchford: the menu, before
Jon Reyes: Yeah and then say channel.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: And then
Aaron Ratchford: So it's
Richard Stanley: Well
Aaron Ratchford: it's
Richard Stanley: uh we
Aaron Ratchford: not
Richard Stanley: should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something, if When it's on, yeah, it's
Jon Reyes: Hmm?
David Jimenez: You
Richard Stanley: turned
David Jimenez: say
Richard Stanley: on,
David Jimenez: you double click on the
Richard Stanley: It automatically
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: has the the programme and the volume function, but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Of you Or you double click
Jon Reyes: But
Richard Stanley: it.
Jon Reyes: but how do you change from volume to channel?
Richard Stanley: No because it has four arrows, right?
David Jimenez: No, not
Aaron Ratchford: No.
David Jimenez: anymore.
Jon Reyes: No.
David Jimenez: Because he's
Richard Stanley: Oh
David Jimenez: now have
Richard Stanley: yeah.
David Jimenez: a scroll-wheel
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: that you can push in.
Richard Stanley: Yeah
David Jimenez: Like
Richard Stanley: I was
David Jimenez: on
Richard Stanley: thinking
David Jimenez: the the mouse.
Richard Stanley: still about our uh integrated joystick.
Jon Reyes: No we have n we have no buttons left. So
Richard Stanley: Say.
Jon Reyes: the joystick was not an option.
Richard Stanley: Yeah that
Jon Reyes: So
Richard Stanley: is a bummer.
Jon Reyes: so
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: you hav So you you have to double-click, I mean, for, I mean, uh
David Jimenez: To
Jon Reyes: volume,
David Jimenez: get into menu.
Jon Reyes: and three
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: double click for the menu, or something.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh no.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Or hold it ten
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: seconds.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Alright.
Richard Stanley: We'll make it a Morse code.
Jon Reyes: But but ease of use was not very important, may I remind
David Jimenez: No no
Jon Reyes: you.
David Jimenez: no.
Jon Reyes: So
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: that's
David Jimenez: it should be trendy.
Jon Reyes: Yeah but that that's not a question. Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions. Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.
David Jimenez: Yeah. Four.
Jon Reyes: You have to search for them in in the
David Jimenez: Yeah, im in the menu.
Jon Reyes: in the s in the screen, in the menu. So
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Seven.
Jon Reyes: So maybe it's more like a f a five.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Or
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Five.
Richard Stanley: I would go for five or six, yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Five or six?
David Jimenez: Five.
Richard Stanley: Okay
Aaron Ratchford: Five.
Richard Stanley: five.
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
Jon Reyes: Five? Alright.
Richard Stanley: Let's not diss our remote.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: It's the weirdest
Jon Reyes: Oh.
David Jimenez: remote control I've ever seen. So
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yep. Just one button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Well
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: it's
Jon Reyes: Uh
David Jimenez: different.
Jon Reyes: the the
Richard Stanley: But
Jon Reyes: remote
Richard Stanley: Uh
Jon Reyes: control
Richard Stanley: yep.
Jon Reyes: makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: recognition. Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition.
David Jimenez: Yeah,
Jon Reyes: But
David Jimenez: it's
Jon Reyes: it
David Jimenez: still
Jon Reyes: has at least one innovation.
David Jimenez: Yeah, I say two.
Jon Reyes: I say two
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: then.
Richard Stanley: We still have the fruit and vegetable print.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: Oh,
Jon Reyes: but
David Jimenez: that's
Richard Stanley: Fr
David Jimenez: the
Richard Stanley: Oh
David Jimenez: next.
Richard Stanley: I
Jon Reyes: that that's
Richard Stanley: mean
Jon Reyes: not
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: that's not this question.
Richard Stanley: Oh
Jon Reyes: Uh
Richard Stanley: never
Jon Reyes: thi
Richard Stanley: mind.
Jon Reyes: uh that's the other question.
Richard Stanley: I'm a bit lost.
Jon Reyes: This one.
Aaron Ratchford: I think a two.
David Jimenez: Two.
Jon Reyes: Two
Aaron Ratchford: No.
Jon Reyes: yeah. I think
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
Jon Reyes: L_C_D_'s more useful than speech
David Jimenez: Yeah
Jon Reyes: What?
David Jimenez: definitely.
Jon Reyes: Oh not the bold one.
Richard Stanley: It's way more practical, yeah.
Jon Reyes: Right. Okay, it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints, primary colours and sponge-like material. It should have
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: been two questions. I realise now, because sponge-like material is dropped. But the look and feel
David Jimenez: You
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: still have rubber d
Richard Stanley: So we still
David Jimenez: Or no.
Richard Stanley: uh
Aaron Ratchford: No
Richard Stanley: we still
Aaron Ratchford: you got
Richard Stanley: have the
Aaron Ratchford: a
Richard Stanley: primary
Aaron Ratchford: plastic.
Richard Stanley: colours.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: But only
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: on the on the outside, not on the button.
Jon Reyes: The button has also colour.
Richard Stanley: Yeah?
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Okay.
David Jimenez: The one button we have.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: The
Richard Stanley: still
Jon Reyes: one.
Richard Stanley: we we dropped also on the the double uh curve.
David Jimenez: Yeah you
Jon Reyes: Mm
David Jimenez: could check
Jon Reyes: mm.
David Jimenez: with the
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Excel sheet.
Aaron Ratchford: You
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: only
Jon Reyes: we have
Aaron Ratchford: have
Jon Reyes: single
Aaron Ratchford: one
Jon Reyes: curve now,
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: And
Jon Reyes: and no
Richard Stanley: and colour.
Jon Reyes: and no material.
Richard Stanley: Yeah. S
Jon Reyes: So maybe in the middle or
Aaron Ratchford: Four.
Jon Reyes: something.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, I mean it's
David Jimenez: Yeah or three.
Jon Reyes: worth
Richard Stanley: Uh
Jon Reyes: the Yeah.
David Jimenez: We have
Richard Stanley: Actually
David Jimenez: something.
Richard Stanley: we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one, uh with little curve on the side, and in a different colour. Still, it's still
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: hard. I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape, that would give it something young and
David Jimenez: New.
Richard Stanley: fresh.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. But then we would have to drop
Aaron Ratchford: Red.
Jon Reyes: the screen. Oh red. Yeah.
David Jimenez: You like both.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. I like bold. Uh the remote control displays the corporate logo.
David Jimenez: Um oh yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Mm yeah
Richard Stanley: Of course.
Aaron Ratchford: yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: I
Jon Reyes: You just
David Jimenez: just
Jon Reyes: have to draw
David Jimenez: couldn't
Jon Reyes: it.
David Jimenez: Um, just one minute.
Richard Stanley: Yeah but it
Aaron Ratchford: It's the white
Richard Stanley: be
Aaron Ratchford: part
Richard Stanley: because
Aaron Ratchford: uh
Richard Stanley: uh we couldn't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen, we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: So
Aaron Ratchford: We have a we
Richard Stanley: I
David Jimenez: So
Richard Stanley: mean
Aaron Ratchford: have a
Richard Stanley: I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But
Jon Reyes: But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean, if
Richard Stanley: Hell
Jon Reyes: there's only
Richard Stanley: yeah.
Jon Reyes: one
Richard Stanley: If we
Jon Reyes: thing.
Richard Stanley: have only one button.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. So I will say that is very true.
Aaron Ratchford: Mm-hmm.
Richard Stanley: And even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an R_ and the reversed R_, doesn't it?
Jon Reyes: Yeah. The
Richard Stanley: So
Jon Reyes: remote control is easy to use. Well I would say
Richard Stanley: No.
Jon Reyes: Skill, uh I would say six, or something. I don't think it's easy to use, or not
Richard Stanley: The only
Jon Reyes: so.
Aaron Ratchford: Ah
Richard Stanley: e the only
Aaron Ratchford: i
Richard Stanley: thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: 'Cause it has only
Aaron Ratchford: And
Richard Stanley: one
Aaron Ratchford: that
Richard Stanley: button.
Aaron Ratchford: you only have to control one button.
Richard Stanley: Yeah exactly.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: It gives visual feedback. So
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.
Richard Stanley: I would
Aaron Ratchford: I think
Richard Stanley: say six.
Aaron Ratchford: a five. Five.
Jon Reyes: What do you say? Easy
Richard Stanley: It's
Jon Reyes: to use?
Richard Stanley: really not
Jon Reyes: Five
Richard Stanley: easy
Jon Reyes: or a
Richard Stanley: to
Jon Reyes: six?
Richard Stanley: use. 'Cause
David Jimenez: No
Richard Stanley: you're putting
David Jimenez: not
Richard Stanley: everything
David Jimenez: anymore.
Jon Reyes: So a six, more.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, uh I would go for the six too.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay. Yeah.
Jon Reyes: So
Richard Stanley: Most votes count. Um
Jon Reyes: Um
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah that
Jon Reyes: well,
Aaron Ratchford: looks uh great.
Jon Reyes: another question, uh the remote control is durable. I don't know if that's the correct
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: word.
Richard Stanley: Definitely
Jon Reyes: But
Aaron Ratchford: Nah
Jon Reyes: uh
Richard Stanley: in casing,
Jon Reyes: In
Richard Stanley: 'cause
Jon Reyes: use,
Richard Stanley: we have a hard
Jon Reyes: both
Richard Stanley: plastic
Jon Reyes: battery as casing?
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah?
Richard Stanley: Yeah because the the batteries, those thingies last forever.
Jon Reyes: True, true.
Richard Stanley: And the
Jon Reyes: And the casing is plastic,
Richard Stanley: the casing, hard plastic also lasts forever.
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: If you don't drop it too much, it's
Richard Stanley: So
Jon Reyes: uh should last pretty long.
Richard Stanley: I would go for one.
Jon Reyes: Yeah? But uh I think rubber compared
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: is better.
Aaron Ratchford: S
Jon Reyes: So I think a two is more appropriate
Aaron Ratchford: Yep.
Richard Stanley: Okay yeah.
Jon Reyes: than
Aaron Ratchford: Wow.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Logo.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Okay I will go go for two. Uh the last one? The remote control's a good example for company's motto, we put
Richard Stanley: Oh.
Jon Reyes: the fashion in electronics.
Richard Stanley: No m
Aaron Ratchford: No we put the electronics into the fashion.
Jon Reyes: uh turn around. Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah
Richard Stanley: I
Jon Reyes: But
Richard Stanley: would
Jon Reyes: um
David Jimenez: well
Richard Stanley: g
David Jimenez: yeah.
Richard Stanley: I would go for four.
Jon Reyes: Yeah?
David Jimenez: No
Richard Stanley: Because we
Jon Reyes: It's
Richard Stanley: kind
Jon Reyes: not
Richard Stanley: of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, true.
David Jimenez: Yeah okay.
Jon Reyes: So a four. It's it g it g goes, it's not the best we could do,
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: I guess. But it all has to do with the budget, because it's it's not the bad idea we had, so
Richard Stanley: Yeah. Yeah yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah, four
Jon Reyes: Alright,
Aaron Ratchford: is okay.
Jon Reyes: yeah. Right.
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: So
Richard Stanley: That's it.
Jon Reyes: if I understood it right, we have to count these numbers.
David Jimenez: Ooh. And
Jon Reyes: Uh
David Jimenez: Yeah? What?
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Oh Alright. Word document, the
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
David Jimenez: That
Jon Reyes: we have to count them.
David Jimenez: Count them.
Jon Reyes: Uh
David Jimenez: Add them? Or
Jon Reyes: Yeah just add them and then uh
David Jimenez: Could
Jon Reyes: divide
David Jimenez: somebody start
Jon Reyes: them.
David Jimenez: calculator?
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Mm. I
Richard Stanley: Ah
Jon Reyes: all made
Richard Stanley: we can
Jon Reyes: it
Richard Stanley: do
Jon Reyes: po
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: I
Richard Stanley: math.
Jon Reyes: I all made it I all made it
Richard Stanley: Uh
Jon Reyes: possible uh for a positive questions,
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: so we can count it. I mean if you have reversed
David Jimenez: Yeah,
Jon Reyes: question,
David Jimenez: yeah.
Jon Reyes: you have to
David Jimenez: You
Jon Reyes: reverse
David Jimenez: have to
Jon Reyes: the scale, uh
David Jimenez: 'Kay.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yes.
David Jimenez: So four and
Richard Stanley: Did you make this questionnaire or what?
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Thanks.
David Jimenez: Nice work.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Richard Stanley: Oh.
Aaron Ratchford: Three plus?
Richard Stanley: I wouldn't be able to
David Jimenez: O
Richard Stanley: do
David Jimenez: one.
Richard Stanley: it that fast.
Aaron Ratchford: Plus one.
David Jimenez: Plus five.
Aaron Ratchford: Plus five?
David Jimenez: Bo
Jon Reyes: Oh Easy. Question number four, yeah?
David Jimenez: Uh two.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: F
David Jimenez: Four.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh. Wait a second. Oh. It's it's gone wrong.
Jon Reyes: How hard is it?
Aaron Ratchford: Okay. It's your
Richard Stanley: Pretty
Aaron Ratchford: turn.
Richard Stanley: difficult.
Jon Reyes: Yeah just
David Jimenez: Start
Jon Reyes: use
Aaron Ratchford: No it's
David Jimenez: over?
Aaron Ratchford: if you press
Jon Reyes: Oh there tho
Aaron Ratchford: twice
Jon Reyes: uh there's
Aaron Ratchford: on the
Jon Reyes: no
Aaron Ratchford: plus
Jon Reyes: n
Aaron Ratchford: button, then you
Jon Reyes: There's
Aaron Ratchford: get
Jon Reyes: no num
Aaron Ratchford: s s
Jon Reyes: pads.
David Jimenez: You can
Aaron Ratchford: No.
David Jimenez: Oh yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: That's why it's uh
Jon Reyes: It's a it's a bit uh
Richard Stanley: Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right? And then you can count them together.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. I think you can
Aaron Ratchford: Just
Jon Reyes: just
Aaron Ratchford: count
Jon Reyes: count
Aaron Ratchford: it
Jon Reyes: them
Aaron Ratchford: to
Jon Reyes: by a
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Um let's move
David Jimenez: Okay.
Jon Reyes: over. Three, plus one,
David Jimenez: Three, four,
Jon Reyes: four. Nine.
David Jimenez: nine. Uh
Jon Reyes: Uh, yeah. Are you here? Eleven.
Richard Stanley: Eleven.
David Jimenez: Eleven,
Richard Stanley: Fifteen.
Jon Reyes: Fifteen.
David Jimenez: fifteen.
Aaron Ratchford: Sixteen.
Richard Stanley: Sixteen.
Jon Reyes: Sixteen, yeah.
Richard Stanley: Seventeen.
David Jimenez: Seventeen.
Jon Reyes: No sixteen. Uh sixteen plus
Richard Stanley: Oh
Jon Reyes: six.
Richard Stanley: what?
Aaron Ratchford: Twenty two.
David Jimenez: S
Jon Reyes: Twenty
Richard Stanley: How
Jon Reyes: two.
Richard Stanley: hard is this?
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: Twenty two, yeah?
Richard Stanley: Never
Aaron Ratchford: Twenty four.
Richard Stanley: mind.
Jon Reyes: Tw
Richard Stanley: Twenty four.
Aaron Ratchford: Twenty six.
Richard Stanley: Twenty eight.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh,
Jon Reyes: Twenty
Aaron Ratchford: sorry.
Jon Reyes: Twenty eight.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh my.
David Jimenez: That was the last one. That was
Richard Stanley: Twenty
David Jimenez: that.
Richard Stanley: eight.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay. Twenty eight.
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: Twen Uh okay.
David Jimenez: divided by nine.
Jon Reyes: By nine.
Aaron Ratchford: Hmm.
Jon Reyes: That's uh three uh
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: Or
Richard Stanley: Yeah the
Jon Reyes: le
Richard Stanley: lower
Jon Reyes: less
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: than a three.
Richard Stanley: The lower the score the better, right?
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Twenty
Richard Stanley: Yeah but
Jon Reyes: eight
David Jimenez: Divided
Jon Reyes: di
David Jimenez: by nine.
Jon Reyes: divided by nine
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: makes
David Jimenez: thr t
Jon Reyes: three
David Jimenez: two.
Jon Reyes: point one one one one one
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: one
David Jimenez: we're
Jon Reyes: one.
David Jimenez: better than average.
Richard Stanley: But
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: I Are you sure we this number actually tells us somethings?
David Jimenez: No.
Richard Stanley: I don't think so because some
Aaron Ratchford: Some
Richard Stanley: questions
Aaron Ratchford: questions are
Richard Stanley: are
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: related to positive issues and some to negative. So if you give a true to a positive, it actually means that the low the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question
Jon Reyes: Yeah, but there are no negative questions I guess.
Richard Stanley: No?
Jon Reyes: Good example. Durable
Richard Stanley: Durable,
Jon Reyes: use.
Richard Stanley: that's good.
Jon Reyes: Easy to use.
Richard Stanley: Easy to use.
Jon Reyes: This is good. Fancy look and feel, that's good.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Technology innovation was
Richard Stanley: Also
Jon Reyes: good, because
Richard Stanley: good.
Jon Reyes: of a marketing uh requirement. Re
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: relevant
Richard Stanley: okay.
Jon Reyes: most used function.
Richard Stanley: I guess you
Jon Reyes: And
Richard Stanley: did do it.
Jon Reyes: hides these functions. That was also a good thing.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Oh yeah
Jon Reyes: And
Richard Stanley: yeah.
Jon Reyes: then matches
Richard Stanley: No
Jon Reyes: the opera of the user was also
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: a good thing.
Richard Stanley: Okay.
Jon Reyes: So it
Richard Stanley: Okay.
Jon Reyes: were all positive questions,
Richard Stanley: Yeah true.
Jon Reyes: by uh by purpose. So Yes, so the It tells us something, yes. Becau But
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
Jon Reyes: the
Aaron Ratchford: great.
Jon Reyes: picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh
David Jimenez: Things,
Jon Reyes: those
David Jimenez: yeah.
Jon Reyes: things,
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: I guess.
Richard Stanley: definitely definitely.
David Jimenez: Okay.
Richard Stanley: Because now it's just an average
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: It's remote.
Jon Reyes: Nah it it's it's better than average, but
Richard Stanley: Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: uh
Jon Reyes: So
Richard Stanley: it
Jon Reyes: th
Richard Stanley: looks
David Jimenez: It's still
Richard Stanley: and stuff, it still
David Jimenez: yeah.
Richard Stanley: uh
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Has
Richard Stanley: it's
David Jimenez: some
Richard Stanley: not,
David Jimenez: shortcomings.
Richard Stanley: it's not really eye-catching, except for
Jon Reyes: No.
Richard Stanley: the colour.
Jon Reyes: The colour and the screen.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Okay so Um this we had, this we had.
Richard Stanley: Product
David Jimenez: We have
Richard Stanley: evaluation.
David Jimenez: to do a product evaluation. Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that, but
Jon Reyes: Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this
Aaron Ratchford: Okay
Richard Stanley: Shall
Aaron Ratchford: it's your
Richard Stanley: we try?
Aaron Ratchford: turn now.
David Jimenez: So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.
Richard Stanley: Black.
Jon Reyes: With some casing around it, yeah.
Richard Stanley: Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours?
David Jimenez: Yeah
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: uh
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh
David Jimenez: The the button has
Aaron Ratchford: uh
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: a special
Aaron Ratchford: the green
David Jimenez: colour, the
Aaron Ratchford: uh he only
David Jimenez: frame
Aaron Ratchford: needs
David Jimenez: has a special colour.
Aaron Ratchford: one button.
Richard Stanley: One scroll
David Jimenez: It's
Richard Stanley: button
David Jimenez: plastic.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: and
Aaron Ratchford: Or we have to delete this one
David Jimenez: And
Aaron Ratchford: or
David Jimenez: single curved.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED.
Jon Reyes: Oh yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh oh no.
Richard Stanley: For
David Jimenez: Otherwise
Richard Stanley: what?
David Jimenez: it uh doesn't function uh
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
David Jimenez: so well.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: So that's
Jon Reyes: Do we have to do other things?
David Jimenez: Well
Jon Reyes: Or just redesign?
David Jimenez: I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far.
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: So I
Jon Reyes: So you made a start, right?
David Jimenez: Yeah I'm I'm somewhere, but maybe
Richard Stanley: Should
David Jimenez: you
Richard Stanley: give
David Jimenez: can
Richard Stanley: it
David Jimenez: help
Richard Stanley: some
David Jimenez: Jon Reyes.
Richard Stanley: time?
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yay.
David Jimenez: Uh
Aaron Ratchford: Okay, but how do we make the the scroll
David Jimenez: I was here.
Aaron Ratchford: uh button?
David Jimenez: So
Aaron Ratchford: It's just one
Richard Stanley: Have to
Jon Reyes: Alright.
Richard Stanley: take this away also.
Aaron Ratchford: yeah.
David Jimenez: Ah
Richard Stanley: And this um
Aaron Ratchford: Uh that's the infrared uh
Richard Stanley: Oh
Aaron Ratchford: thing.
Jon Reyes: The
Richard Stanley: yeah,
Jon Reyes: the
Richard Stanley: of course.
Jon Reyes: target group has a
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: weak
Richard Stanley: Um
Jon Reyes: spot for fruit
Richard Stanley: pen
Jon Reyes: and vegetables,
Richard Stanley: yeah?
Jon Reyes: like primary
Richard Stanley: Format.
Jon Reyes: colours, spongy shape.
Richard Stanley: Current
Jon Reyes: The
Richard Stanley: colour
Jon Reyes: playfulness,
Richard Stanley: red.
Jon Reyes: we decided to use kinetic
Richard Stanley: Oh
Jon Reyes: energy as a power
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: sour
Richard Stanley: we did our special colour for
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: the
Jon Reyes: Okay.
Richard Stanley: Line
Jon Reyes: That's
Richard Stanley: widths,
Jon Reyes: conceptual,
Richard Stanley: now that's
Jon Reyes: yes.
Richard Stanley: a ten.
David Jimenez: That's enough to get started
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah. Um,
David Jimenez: with,
Aaron Ratchford: uh it's
Jon Reyes: Mm.
Aaron Ratchford: just a
Richard Stanley: It's gonna
Aaron Ratchford: scroll
Richard Stanley: be one str
Jon Reyes: How
David Jimenez: so
Jon Reyes: many
Richard Stanley: scroll.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah, is
Jon Reyes: pages?
Aaron Ratchford: it's horizontal or vertical?
David Jimenez: Uh, I just took one for every step
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: and then
Aaron Ratchford: I think
David Jimenez: a
Jon Reyes: Y
David Jimenez: conclusion.
Jon Reyes: you have
Richard Stanley: Horizontal's
Jon Reyes: you have done the
Richard Stanley: easier
Jon Reyes: first two.
Richard Stanley: too,
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: 'cause you
Jon Reyes: Okay,
Richard Stanley: can
Jon Reyes: and and the look
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: and feel is
Richard Stanley: Is it more natural
David Jimenez: Well
Richard Stanley: than this?
David Jimenez: I think I have to make a p
Richard Stanley: So
David Jimenez: an
Richard Stanley: let's
David Jimenez: issue
Richard Stanley: say
David Jimenez: called finance.
Richard Stanley: Whoops. 'Kay.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yes.
Richard Stanley: Basically.
Aaron Ratchford: It doesn't
Jon Reyes: The items
Aaron Ratchford: look like
Jon Reyes: we had
Aaron Ratchford: uh
Jon Reyes: to drop.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Uh it it's it's not Yeah. It's not very fashionable anymore. But uh it's okay.
Richard Stanley: It's really ugly.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Where did we start with price? Twenty
Aaron Ratchford: Maybe
Jon Reyes: six
Aaron Ratchford: m make
Jon Reyes: and a half.
Aaron Ratchford: it bigger? Or
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: Or not? Or twenty six? Something like that.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah. That looks little bit more uh Maybe
Richard Stanley: Oh
Aaron Ratchford: that's a s a special colour for it.
Jon Reyes: This?
Aaron Ratchford: So we can make it uh special?
Richard Stanley: What do you mean? Like a other colour than this one?
Aaron Ratchford: Or or speckles in it? I dunno. Uh
Jon Reyes: Speckles?
Richard Stanley: Yeah can we do it uh uh can we do a print?
Aaron Ratchford: I'm not sure.
Richard Stanley: I think we
David Jimenez: ... I.
Richard Stanley: have
David Jimenez: don't
Richard Stanley: to choose,
David Jimenez: think so,
Richard Stanley: yeah?
David Jimenez: if you see
Jon Reyes: Uh
David Jimenez: the options. But
Richard Stanley: Okay special colour. We do have special colour. Does it
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah
Richard Stanley: mean uh
Aaron Ratchford: red
Richard Stanley: that
Aaron Ratchford: is already a special colour, I think. So It's
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: not very special, but uh
Richard Stanley: Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Purdy.
Aaron Ratchford: Just
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: uh
Jon Reyes: Some
Aaron Ratchford: put the
Jon Reyes: some
Aaron Ratchford: purple
Jon Reyes: big dots.
Aaron Ratchford: uh purple on it.
Richard Stanley: Purple?
Aaron Ratchford: That's trendy.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah yeah. Oh no
Jon Reyes: ... We. have the
Richard Stanley: my
Jon Reyes: original
Richard Stanley: remote
Jon Reyes: balance
Richard Stanley: has acne.
Jon Reyes: sheet, or
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Woah.
Richard Stanley: No. That's why we have that button.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh yeah.
Richard Stanley: It's so cute.
Aaron Ratchford: Hmm. Oh what?
Richard Stanley: Doh.
Jon Reyes: Woah. Just cut. Control Z_.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh no.
Richard Stanley: Is that that?
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: No no. Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: How the
Aaron Ratchford: Oh it's
Richard Stanley: We
Aaron Ratchford: it's just
Richard Stanley: did we do
Aaron Ratchford: one
Richard Stanley: that?
Aaron Ratchford: computer?
Jon Reyes: Just
Aaron Ratchford: Or
Jon Reyes: dual screen.
Aaron Ratchford: No. But can we delete it, just with delete? Or
Richard Stanley: We can try. That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's
Aaron Ratchford: Crashed.
Richard Stanley: No,
Aaron Ratchford: Oh, no.
Jon Reyes: Very
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Jon Reyes: nice.
Richard Stanley: Where do you want some more dots?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah, over here. Hmm?
David Jimenez: You can't even draw anymore.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Even
Aaron Ratchford: What's
Jon Reyes: Y y
David Jimenez: children
Aaron Ratchford: this?
Jon Reyes: you
David Jimenez: can draw.
Jon Reyes: you you push the button or something. Or
David Jimenez: Can you just push
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
David Jimenez: pen
Aaron Ratchford: yeah.
David Jimenez: and then
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
David Jimenez: keep
Aaron Ratchford: that's
David Jimenez: on
Aaron Ratchford: the select button. It's
David Jimenez: Hmm.
Aaron Ratchford: uh
Richard Stanley: Okay, it's not the prettiest, I know.
Aaron Ratchford: No,
Richard Stanley: It's
Aaron Ratchford: it
Jon Reyes: Lot
Richard Stanley: not
Aaron Ratchford: looks
Richard Stanley: so
Jon Reyes: of options.
Richard Stanley: random huh?
Aaron Ratchford: It's okay. Specially the the R_.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, the R_ and another R_.
Richard Stanley: Yeah okay.
Jon Reyes: It's called the Real Remote, right?
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote.
David Jimenez: Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Welcome.
Richard Stanley: We can make
David Jimenez: This
Richard Stanley: a
David Jimenez: is
Richard Stanley: l
David Jimenez: your
Richard Stanley: a logo.
David Jimenez: Real Remote.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Like uh
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: put it like the shape.
Aaron Ratchford: D designed by
Richard Stanley: Something like that.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Richard Stanley: I mean it's not too uh That's not their logo, is it?
Aaron Ratchford: No. Do they have a lo Oh, the here. This i this is the logo.
Richard Stanley: Yeah. It's
Aaron Ratchford: Two
Richard Stanley: a
Aaron Ratchford: R_s and a one.
David Jimenez: Yeah. You can just reuse that, because the name is the same.
Jon Reyes: You can copy
David Jimenez: Initials.
Jon Reyes: and paste the picture if you want.
Richard Stanley: How Shall we do the logo in black or not?
David Jimenez: Mm.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. What is that? Look more Looks more like a campfire.
Richard Stanley: Are you dissing my drawing? This one?
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: It looks like a ribbon.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Richard Stanley: So who wants to draw? This is actually quite fun. Do we need to do anything? I hear you
Aaron Ratchford: Are
Richard Stanley: people
Aaron Ratchford: we uh ready?
Richard Stanley: are typing.
Aaron Ratchford: Uh Or
Jon Reyes: Type in your report.
Richard Stanley: Oh, okay.
Jon Reyes: I don't see any new messages. So
David Jimenez: Luckily.
Jon Reyes: Hmm? Luckily, yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Is this uh the last assignment? Or
David Jimenez: Yeah, it's uh
Aaron Ratchford: Final
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: It's almost four.
Jon Reyes: What time do we have to deliver the report? Four o'clock or
Richard Stanley: At four, yeah,
Jon Reyes: Or before that?
David Jimenez: Okay.
Jon Reyes: Just
David Jimenez: And
Jon Reyes: compare
David Jimenez: copy this.
Jon Reyes: uh
David Jimenez: Just a minute.
Richard Stanley: This is really bizarre.
David Jimenez: It's
Richard Stanley: It looks like there's a It looks
Aaron Ratchford: Um
Richard Stanley: like
Aaron Ratchford: bug.
Richard Stanley: a butterfly.
Aaron Ratchford: Bug.
David Jimenez: It's somewhere I
Aaron Ratchford: No
David Jimenez: d
Aaron Ratchford: it's
David Jimenez: It
Aaron Ratchford: in inside
David Jimenez: isn't inside.
Aaron Ratchford: the
David Jimenez: Yeah, and don't know how it's
Jon Reyes: No it's
David Jimenez: or
Jon Reyes: on
David Jimenez: eject
Jon Reyes: the on
David Jimenez: it.
Jon Reyes: the beamer I guess.
Aaron Ratchford: No it Oh.
Richard Stanley: No, but it
David Jimenez: From
Richard Stanley: i
David Jimenez: up there?
Richard Stanley: It's not a bu a beamer.
David Jimenez: No.
Richard Stanley: B It's a normal T_V_ screen, kind of thing.
Aaron Ratchford: Hey,
David Jimenez: Yeah it's
Aaron Ratchford: you've
David Jimenez: somewhere
Aaron Ratchford: got it
David Jimenez: in
Aaron Ratchford: uh
David Jimenez: here.
Aaron Ratchford: read only. So you have to uh
David Jimenez: Save copy.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: from behind, I guess.
Aaron Ratchford: It's too uh
Richard Stanley: Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.
David Jimenez: Yes.
Jon Reyes: Yeah it it's a beamer, but then with
Richard Stanley: With
Jon Reyes: a within
Richard Stanley: a
Jon Reyes: a
Richard Stanley: with a mirror, huh?
Jon Reyes: mirror,
Richard Stanley: Or something.
Jon Reyes: yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: So it looks like a big screen, but in fact it isn't.
Richard Stanley: So are we gonna
Aaron Ratchford: It
Richard Stanley: change
Aaron Ratchford: is
Richard Stanley: anything to this? I mean is
Jon Reyes: Well
Richard Stanley: it gonna
Jon Reyes: it's it's
David Jimenez: Well
Jon Reyes: single single
Aaron Ratchford: It's
Jon Reyes: curved.
Aaron Ratchford: now single curved. So
Jon Reyes: Th this
Richard Stanley: This
Jon Reyes: is
Richard Stanley: is
Aaron Ratchford: It's
Jon Reyes: flat.
Richard Stanley: gonna be
Aaron Ratchford: flat.
Richard Stanley: flat. Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
Richard Stanley: exactly.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: no. Okay. It doesn't matter. It's
Jon Reyes: But it's
Aaron Ratchford: it's
Jon Reyes: it's better to have in the front, this kind of shape, because it looks nice. I mean you see more of this than of that.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah, more like that.
Richard Stanley: Yeah. And this is also gonna be
Jon Reyes: It's not very uh ideal.
Richard Stanley: Nope.
Jon Reyes: Do like this.
Richard Stanley: But sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. What's this?
Aaron Ratchford: That's the detector uh for the
Jon Reyes: Ooh.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
Jon Reyes: But
Richard Stanley: Maybe
Jon Reyes: I don't see a detector over there.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah. I don't know.
Richard Stanley: No it's I think you only need two points. Or not. No,
Jon Reyes: I
Richard Stanley: you sh
Jon Reyes: thought it was a kind of thing to put it on, and then draw right
Aaron Ratchford: Maybe that's
Jon Reyes: lines
Aaron Ratchford: why
Jon Reyes: or something.
Aaron Ratchford: it's it's not working, because it's more
Richard Stanley: Slanted yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Or just messed it up.
Richard Stanley: Well maybe.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh. Oh yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: it it matters for the aim of this
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: thing.
Jon Reyes: Yeah but it wasn't good.
Aaron Ratchford: You've to make it s uh ninety degrees.
Jon Reyes: Yeah it it has to touch the corners, I guess. But th this one wasn't good, because if I was drawing here, I drew a line and then it came over here.
David Jimenez: Um now you probably have to recalibrate.
Aaron Ratchford: You have
David Jimenez: Oh, five minutes to the end of the meeting.
Jon Reyes: Oh.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh we're always
David Jimenez: And
Aaron Ratchford: long.
David Jimenez: the recalibration is done using this icon here.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah,
Jon Reyes: Ooh.
Aaron Ratchford: can we t can we get to that i Oh it's not working anymore.
David Jimenez: Yeah well I just
Aaron Ratchford: Oh
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: yeah
Jon Reyes: yeah,
Aaron Ratchford: yeah
Jon Reyes: it's
Aaron Ratchford: yeah
Jon Reyes: it's
Aaron Ratchford: yeah, it's
Jon Reyes: okay.
Aaron Ratchford: it's working, it's working.
Jon Reyes: It's working again.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: It's better than before.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Okay.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: We're improving uh Yeah.
David Jimenez: You go ahead.
Jon Reyes: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: that's improved uh pretty much.
Richard Stanley: Yeah it's only a bit like to
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: that side, but that is that one by the way.
Jon Reyes: Yeah but
Richard Stanley: 'Cause
Jon Reyes: it's better,
Aaron Ratchford: No it
Jon Reyes: it's
Richard Stanley: this
Jon Reyes: better
Richard Stanley: one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this, it will go there,
Jon Reyes: Mm.
Richard Stanley: if I change that, will go there.
Jon Reyes: No. It's better than it was I guess.
Richard Stanley: Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.
Jon Reyes: Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: meeting's over. And
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: then? We have
David Jimenez: Then
Jon Reyes: to present
David Jimenez: I have to uh uh write this, and I don't know if you have to present, because I didn't receive any information about that so far.
Jon Reyes: Alright.
Richard Stanley: Maybe we will.
David Jimenez: Maybe
Jon Reyes: So
David Jimenez: we get
Jon Reyes: it
David Jimenez: a
Jon Reyes: after
David Jimenez: a final
Jon Reyes: the after
David Jimenez: mail.
Jon Reyes: after these five minutes,
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: you have to
David Jimenez: Yeah, I have still ten minutes
Richard Stanley: What's
David Jimenez: to finish
Richard Stanley: this anyway?
David Jimenez: the report.
Aaron Ratchford: So
Jon Reyes: Alright.
Aaron Ratchford: cake.
Jon Reyes: After after that five minutes,
Richard Stanley: It
Jon Reyes: you have
Richard Stanley: looks
Jon Reyes: ten
Richard Stanley: like
Jon Reyes: minutes
Richard Stanley: candle
Jon Reyes: to finish
Richard Stanley: wax.
Jon Reyes: it, or
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Alright. And we uh
David Jimenez: And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee
Jon Reyes: Right.
David Jimenez: or
Jon Reyes: Chill.
David Jimenez: oh no, they don't have beer here so
Jon Reyes: Huh.
David Jimenez: you can't celebrate. You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh
Jon Reyes: Uh
David Jimenez: over there.
Jon Reyes: Yeah?
David Jimenez: The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh Yeah next.
Jon Reyes: Next slide.
David Jimenez: Oh yeah, we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly.
Jon Reyes: Yeah?
David Jimenez: Uh
Jon Reyes: How do you do it?
David Jimenez: Uh well basically what that says, we discuss it and um So
Jon Reyes: Alright.
David Jimenez: how were did the project process uh go? Did you, were you all pleased with the process as it was? Or
Richard Stanley: Uh
David Jimenez: are there
Richard Stanley: th
David Jimenez: uh
Richard Stanley: uh do you mean the the interaction between
David Jimenez: Yeah
Richard Stanley: us?
David Jimenez: the interaction
Richard Stanley: Or
David Jimenez: and the steps we followed, and and so forth.
Richard Stanley: Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: it went a bit fast. But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on, the second time I think I did a bit better.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: And the third time yeah, I
Jon Reyes: And
Richard Stanley: mean
Jon Reyes: we move
Aaron Ratchford: No.
Jon Reyes: more to to working together as team, because
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: at first you you make your individual contribution, and then come here, and you have no idea what the
Aaron Ratchford: No.
Jon Reyes: others have to make.
Richard Stanley: Yeah, yeah yeah
Jon Reyes: And then
Richard Stanley: yeah.
Jon Reyes: finally you have some idea, okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: you will arrange that, and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So The
Richard Stanley: Yeah
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: process,
Richard Stanley: we
Jon Reyes: I mean, the interaction between us became better and better
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: I guess.
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Aaron Ratchford: Especially
Richard Stanley: Mm-hmm.
Aaron Ratchford: after the first meeting.
Jon Reyes: Yeah,
Aaron Ratchford: And
Jon Reyes: especially if f f if you see uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: meeting
Richard Stanley: Definitely.
Jon Reyes: I guess.
David Jimenez: Okay and was that due to my leadership?
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah yeah yeah.
Richard Stanley: Well you did become more assertive the the second time round, so that
David Jimenez: Yeah?
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: That okay?
Richard Stanley: You were more in charge kind of thing.
David Jimenez: Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity?
Richard Stanley: I guess so.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah but
Richard Stanley: I mean
Aaron Ratchford: only the the financial parts uh
Jon Reyes: Li Limiteded
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: afterwards, but If if you don't take that into account, there's plenty
Richard Stanley: I
Jon Reyes: of room for creativ creativity. Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself, but also in explaining it to the other people, by means of uh
Richard Stanley: We were pretty democratic.
Jon Reyes: the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like
David Jimenez: So
Jon Reyes: that.
David Jimenez: and the uh about the board digital pen? Uh was that
Richard Stanley: Yeah.
David Jimenez: helpful or
Jon Reyes: Mm
David Jimenez: Ooh.
Jon Reyes: uh I think in in essence the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better. I
David Jimenez: Yeah
Jon Reyes: mean uh uh
David Jimenez: it
Jon Reyes: I've
David Jimenez: works.
Jon Reyes: made yeah, uh I've made several notes just to test it, and and just put the pen in into it, and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly.
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Jon Reyes: So
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Jon Reyes: it it's better a better device than uh than the screen.
Richard Stanley: Maybe Yeah.
Jon Reyes: But the screen is useful, in essence, but it doesn't work that well.
Richard Stanley: It's uh it's The the pen is more intuitive, 'cause we're all used to writing
David Jimenez: Use
Richard Stanley: with
David Jimenez: the
Richard Stanley: pen.
David Jimenez: pen.
Richard Stanley: And uh as I said, uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works, so will take Jon Reyes half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: But once I get to know the program probably, I mean, it looks better, you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style, like we have i the the logo and everything.
David Jimenez: Yeah yeah.
Richard Stanley: And
Jon Reyes: Yep.
Richard Stanley: I don't know.
David Jimenez: Blink. Oh.
Jon Reyes: Warning. Finish
Aaron Ratchford: Finish
Jon Reyes: meeting
Aaron Ratchford: meeting.
Jon Reyes: now.
David Jimenez: Okay, are are there any new ideas about this? All I think I
Jon Reyes: Well,
David Jimenez: didn't
Jon Reyes: it
David Jimenez: really receive,
Jon Reyes: It's use
David Jimenez: yeah.
Jon Reyes: especially useful, I guess, to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff.
David Jimenez: Uh uh
Jon Reyes: And and
David Jimenez: w uh S sorry uh
Jon Reyes: the screen and stuff like that.
David Jimenez: Mm-hmm.
Aaron Ratchford: I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint, so that you can just easily
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for Jon Reyes is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: well. You
David Jimenez: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: know, you can draw something on
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
Richard Stanley: the sketch-board and then take it there, or whatever.
Jon Reyes: Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to
Aaron Ratchford: Yeah
Jon Reyes: an
Aaron Ratchford: just
Jon Reyes: a small
Aaron Ratchford: for text,
Jon Reyes: audience, and
Aaron Ratchford: for
Jon Reyes: then
Aaron Ratchford: text
Jon Reyes: to
Aaron Ratchford: it's uh it's okay. But
Jon Reyes: Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So Yes.
David Jimenez: Oh.
Jon Reyes: Check your email.
David Jimenez: Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire.
Jon Reyes: You also.
Aaron Ratchford: 'Kay.
David Jimenez: Ah. Woah.
Richard Stanley: Alright.
Jon Reyes: Right.
David Jimenez: Okay.
Aaron Ratchford: Okay.
David Jimenez: Uh okay.
Richard Stanley: Alright.
Jon Reyes: Yes boss.
Richard Stanley: Well,
David Jimenez: That's
Richard Stanley: s
David Jimenez: the management.
Richard Stanley: see you in a second huh?
Jon Reyes: Well see you soon.
Aaron Ratchford: Oh. Okay.
David Jimenez: Hope so.
Jon Reyes: Yeah.
David Jimenez: Um
Richard Stanley: Yeah we have to pull it this way, huh? Wait. | David Jimenez decided to start by looking at costs instead of the prototype presentation because the original design was too expensive and had to be changed. The group discussed which features should be dropped. The group decided that the LCD screen was integral to their design, but dropped the speech recognition. They decided to drop all the buttons in favour of an integrated scroll push-button, and to use a hand dynamo instead of kinetic energy as a power source. Jon Reyes led the prototype evaluation, based on the new design. The group were satisfied with the overall score of 3.1. Richard Stanley and user interface designer worked on a drawing of the new design, while David Jimenez and marketing manager worked on the final report. David Jimenez led an evaluation of the project process. The group thought that they worked well together, especially after the first meeting. They were happy with the room for creativity, but thought they were limited by the budget. They preferred the digital pens to the SMARTboard. They had mixed feelings about using PowerPoint. | 1 | amisum | test |
Mark Ray: Hi.
Michael Locher: Hi.
Ron Rodriguez: Hello.
Mark Ray: Oh.
Ron Rodriguez: Good morning.
Mark Ray: Good morning.
Michael Locher: Morning.
Homer Branham: Good morning.
Ron Rodriguez: Uh before I start with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um
Homer Branham: By Big Brother?
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah. Yeah.
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: This uh These are cameras, so are these.
Homer Branham: Mm-hmm.
Ron Rodriguez: This thing uh that looks like a pie, are
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: actually all microphones.
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. uh as I can you uh you have placed your laptops uh place where must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras.
Homer Branham: Of our faces.
Ron Rodriguez: And Indeed. So they can see our faces. Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do, and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end. Okay uh, my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm Ron Rodriguez. What's your name?
Mark Ray: I'm Juergen Toffs I'm Mark Ray.
Ron Rodriguez: User interface, okay.
Michael Locher: Hi, my uh I'm Michael Locher.
Ron Rodriguez: Industrial, yes.
Homer Branham: I'm uh Tim. Um my function is Homer Branham.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay, thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh, yeah, very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original, uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh Yeah, that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote? And why are we going to do it? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it? And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design, how, part two, uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of If it's uh it's possible technical-wise. Uh each stage is uh uh is broken up in two uh two stages, individual work and a meeting. So it's uh it's very straightforward. Okay, the tool training. We have two smart boards. This one is for the presentations, the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had. Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing. So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme. This is called a smart board thing
Homer Branham: Speaks for
Ron Rodriguez: uh
Homer Branham: itself.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, it speaks for itself. Um and as you uh may have heard, the documents in the shared folder uh can be uh showed on this screen. Not in y the the My Documents. So if you wanna show something, put it in the shared folder. Uh This uh is very straightforward, with the save, the print, the undo, the blank, the select, the pen. Well, I don't uh gonna explain it all, because I think you know uh how it works. Um we must not forget uh everything we draw on here, uh all must be saved. We we may not delete anything. So uh if you have uh drawn something, save it. Never delete it. That's a very important uh thing. Okay. Uh little uh little kinda exercise to uh know each other. At uh the white board on the left. Every uh every one of us uh must draw our favourite animal, and uh tell uh tell us why we uh had uh chosen that animal. Uh important is that we use different colours, and uh different pen widths. Widths. Widths.
Homer Branham: I have a question.
Ron Rodriguez: Yes?
Homer Branham: Um this exercise,
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: um did the company board tell you to do it, or uh did you just make it up yourself?
Ron Rodriguez: No no no. It's uh it's uh I I
Homer Branham: It's
Ron Rodriguez: I
Homer Branham: part
Ron Rodriguez: must
Homer Branham: of the
Ron Rodriguez: do
Homer Branham: introduction,
Ron Rodriguez: it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Homer Branham: okay.
Ron Rodriguez: 'Cause we uh really don't know each other, and uh it's kinda new. So getting used to each other, we can uh have a little fun then, before we
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: uh dig in really to the hard stuff. That kind of thing. Would you start with drawing your uh favourite
Homer Branham: Um,
Ron Rodriguez: animal?
Homer Branham: yeah. I don't know really how it works. But maybe
Ron Rodriguez: Okay,
Homer Branham: you can
Ron Rodriguez: okay.
Homer Branham: show us first?
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, okay. Drawing goes with uh this thing. Do not touch your hand on uh this little uh thingy here. That's uh important. So hold it uh like
Homer Branham: You
Ron Rodriguez: this.
Homer Branham: g you get electrocuted or
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, kinda. So, um You must p p uh push a little uh Good. Because And uh wait uh wait a few seconds. so uh
Mark Ray: Ach.
Ron Rodriguez: watch it. Oh yeah. Well I'm gonna paint in the red.
Mark Ray: Ooph.
Ron Rodriguez: Oh. That's the background colour. Well, undo. Um The pen? No. One minute please.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, that's the one. Well, five. Okay. My favourite animal huh?
Homer Branham: It's like Pictionary?
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, you can guess what
Homer Branham: The
Ron Rodriguez: it is.
Homer Branham: the one who says it first gets a raise.
Ron Rodriguez: May uh paint uh next.
Homer Branham: It's a pork?
Ron Rodriguez: No, it's not an orc. You don't see it uh at the ears?
Homer Branham: Mm yeah, I have it at home.
Ron Rodriguez: You have an orc at home?
Mark Ray: Very artistic.
Ron Rodriguez: Thank you. So it's a cat.
Homer Branham: What's it called?
Ron Rodriguez: Simba.
Homer Branham: Ah.
Ron Rodriguez: 'Cause uh we have a cat at home and he's called Simba. 'Cause
Mark Ray: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: he looks like the uh the the lion from The Lion King.
Homer Branham: Miniature
Ron Rodriguez: So we
Homer Branham: size?
Ron Rodriguez: uh found it kinda cool to uh name it after a lion.
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: He's happy with us, so uh he's smiling.
Mark Ray: Wow. He does have body uh
Ron Rodriguez: No, only the face. Because
Mark Ray: Huh.
Ron Rodriguez: we have we have twen twenty five minutes.
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: So we uh
Homer Branham: We have to speed up.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Remember you use uh different colours, and different pen widths.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah. Okay, who wants to go next?
Homer Branham: I Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah? So choose a colour, choose a pen width and draw a
Mark Ray: You don't have to change the colour and the pen width during
Homer Branham: Save it.
Mark Ray: uh the drawing. Or
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: You have to save it.
Ron Rodriguez: Save it, okay.
Homer Branham: I've done it. New? 'Kay.
Mark Ray: You have to draw uh push hard on the pen or uh
Homer Branham: Mm uh Not really. Um
Ron Rodriguez: Kind of firm touch.
Homer Branham: That one.
Mark Ray: Oh. Uh hmm.
Homer Branham: Yeah? Okay. Open. Which one is it? Smart board? Okay.
Mark Ray: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: And now?
Homer Branham: Okay. Okay, thanks. 'Kay, I've speed up. 'Kay, that's fine. Line width.
Michael Locher: By the way, why was your cat uh red?
Ron Rodriguez: Because uh my cat is red uh
Michael Locher: Oh,
Ron Rodriguez: at
Mark Ray: Oh.
Ron Rodriguez: home.
Michael Locher: okay.
Ron Rodriguez: And I have red hair, so uh
Mark Ray: It's
Michael Locher: Oh,
Mark Ray: a very
Michael Locher: yeah,
Mark Ray: bloody
Michael Locher: sure.
Mark Ray: cat.
Ron Rodriguez: must be red.
Mark Ray: It's a frog.
Michael Locher: No, it's a turtle.
Homer Branham: It's not an apple.
Michael Locher: Must be a dog.
Mark Ray: A dog?
Michael Locher: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Hmm. Colour. Something like this. Smaller.
Mark Ray: Huh? Oh, it is a turtle.
Ron Rodriguez: It is a turtle. Why a turtle? Why? Tim?
Homer Branham: Um 'Cause I liked Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles.
Ron Rodriguez: You watched it a lot?
Homer Branham: Uh?
Ron Rodriguez: You watched it a lot?
Mark Ray: It's uh inside its shell. You'll be uh finished
Homer Branham: No,
Mark Ray: sooner.
Homer Branham: it's uh
Ron Rodriguez: It's a scared turtle.
Homer Branham: No no. It's coming up. Mm. Uh.
Mark Ray: Wow.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay,
Homer Branham: Something
Ron Rodriguez: Tim.
Homer Branham: like this.
Ron Rodriguez: Thank you.
Homer Branham: Okay, you know Very artistic.
Ron Rodriguez: Jurgen, you want to go next?
Mark Ray: Yes. Okay.
Homer Branham: Yeah?
Mark Ray: Wha Thank you.
Homer Branham: Here you go.
Mark Ray: Yeah. Um How did it work?
Ron Rodriguez: Format?
Mark Ray: Performance?
Ron Rodriguez: And then you have the the current colour, you can change. So no red or green.
Mark Ray: And a pen?
Ron Rodriguez: And uh line uh width. I had five. Tim had Uh
Mark Ray: Um
Ron Rodriguez: Tim, what kinda line width
Homer Branham: Uh
Ron Rodriguez: did you
Homer Branham: the
Ron Rodriguez: have?
Homer Branham: big lines were like nine.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay. It's a dog.
Mark Ray: Well, very good. I just
Michael Locher: Uh.
Mark Ray: uh thought I'd pick
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Mark Ray: the easiest one.
Ron Rodriguez: Why a dog? You have a dog at home?
Mark Ray: Well, we had a dog,
Homer Branham: Uh,
Ron Rodriguez: Had
Homer Branham: it's
Mark Ray: a
Ron Rodriguez: a
Mark Ray: few
Homer Branham: p
Ron Rodriguez: dog?
Mark Ray: years ago.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah?
Mark Ray: And and it, yeah, when it died we didn't get a new one or something.
Ron Rodriguez: Ah.
Homer Branham: It's
Mark Ray: But
Homer Branham: pretty good
Mark Ray: uh
Homer Branham: uh
Ron Rodriguez: You have an artistic uh inner middle.
Homer Branham: An artist.
Mark Ray: Uh a Graphical User Designer, so
Michael Locher: Hmm.
Mark Ray: Hey.
Homer Branham: Think you uh picked the wrong uh function. Wrong job.
Mark Ray: Oh. No. Can work together. Ah colour.
Ron Rodriguez: So I think you can see it's real uh really a easy programme to use. Not difficult at all.
Homer Branham: Wha
Mark Ray: Well, it's
Ron Rodriguez: Okay,
Mark Ray: okay.
Ron Rodriguez: thank you.
Homer Branham: That's enough, thanks.
Ron Rodriguez: Janus?
Michael Locher: Yeah, sure.
Ron Rodriguez: The last one?
Mark Ray: Yeah.
Michael Locher: Uh thanks.
Homer Branham: I wonder.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah. After a cat, a turtle and a dog. I think he's gonna draw an elephant.
Michael Locher: but I'm gonna do something much more difficult.
Ron Rodriguez: Uh-oh.
Mark Ray: Uh-oh. Oh, he is the artistic design.
Homer Branham: I'm gonna design a remote uh remote control
Mark Ray: Remote
Homer Branham: animal.
Mark Ray: control animal.
Michael Locher: Exactly.
Homer Branham: Oh.
Michael Locher: Uh
Homer Branham: Sorry.
Mark Ray: Well with the interface, it might be easier to ha to draw here and
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Mark Ray: display there uh.
Homer Branham: That that might be easier. But at the other hand, uh a pen like that is easy to hold in your hand, and
Ron Rodriguez: No.
Homer Branham: I think it's easier to
Ron Rodriguez: Better
Homer Branham: draw.
Ron Rodriguez: to draw with a
Homer Branham: Yeah. With
Ron Rodriguez: with
Homer Branham: a pen
Mark Ray: Than
Homer Branham: than with
Mark Ray: on
Homer Branham: a
Mark Ray: the,
Homer Branham: mouse
Mark Ray: with
Homer Branham: mouse.
Mark Ray: Yeah, I m I mean like uh like
Homer Branham: Mouth.
Mark Ray: on here, drawing drawing
Homer Branham: Oh,
Mark Ray: uh.
Homer Branham: okay.
Mark Ray: And then
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Mark Ray: displaying
Homer Branham: W
Mark Ray: on screen,
Homer Branham: with
Mark Ray: but
Homer Branham: this paper
Ron Rodriguez: But what
Homer Branham: it's too
Ron Rodriguez: is he
Homer Branham: mu
Ron Rodriguez: uh?
Homer Branham: too expensive.
Mark Ray: Too expensive,
Ron Rodriguez: Is it a rabbit?
Mark Ray: yeah.
Michael Locher: Yes.
Ron Rodriguez: Do you have a rabbit at home?
Michael Locher: No.
Homer Branham: It's a rabbit
Mark Ray: A
Homer Branham: with
Mark Ray: green
Homer Branham: uh
Mark Ray: rabbit.
Homer Branham: broken legs?
Ron Rodriguez: Is
Michael Locher: No.
Ron Rodriguez: it a white rabbit f It's the white rabbit from The Matrix.
Michael Locher: Yeah, exactly.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay, then
Mark Ray: There,
Ron Rodriguez: yeah.
Mark Ray: the g white green rabbit.
Michael Locher: So.
Mark Ray: He's a little bit stoned there.
Michael Locher: Uh I figured this is a pretty b good impression of a rabbit.
Homer Branham: Yeah. It
Michael Locher: Uh
Homer Branham: will
Michael Locher: uh
Homer Branham: do.
Michael Locher: Uh well.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay. Finishing touch and then we're going further.
Homer Branham: Project Manager? Uh
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah?
Michael Locher: Where does the pen go? Just
Homer Branham: Have
Michael Locher: uh
Homer Branham: you been uh counting the time?
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, a little.
Homer Branham: Okay. Let's go on then.
Ron Rodriguez: Well, I think the dog is the the most uh
Michael Locher: Uh I figured
Ron Rodriguez: artistic.
Michael Locher: the rabbit was actually the most uh impressive.
Ron Rodriguez: Don't choose for youself.
Michael Locher: Oh,
Ron Rodriguez: That's
Michael Locher: sorry.
Ron Rodriguez: selfish. Okay,
Homer Branham: It's pretty
Ron Rodriguez: now we're
Homer Branham: abstract.
Ron Rodriguez: gonna dig into the to the serious stuff. Uh the selling price for the remote will be uh twenty five Euro, and the production cost uh may not be more than uh twenty and a half Euro. So uh from my point of view, I don't think it's uh gonna be very uh very high tech, high definition, uh ultra modern uh kinda remote, for twelve uh fift uh twelve and a half Euro. Uh the profit we must make with uh the new remote is uh fifty million Euro. So that's a lot. We have to sell uh a lot of uh
Mark Ray: Yeah, how much is it?
Homer Branham: Like how much?
Mark Ray: Hundred million uh remotes
Ron Rodriguez: Uh
Mark Ray: or something?
Ron Rodriguez: I think uh w when the selling price is twenty five,
Mark Ray: Oh
Ron Rodriguez: uh
Mark Ray: yeah.
Michael Locher: Twenty million.
Ron Rodriguez: uh you got two million,
Michael Locher: Two million, oh yeah, two
Ron Rodriguez: two
Michael Locher: million.
Ron Rodriguez: million remotes.
Michael Locher: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: But our marketing range is uh, market range is international. So we have uh virtually the whole world we can sell uh we can sell our r remotes to. At least that uh countries which have uh
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: a television. Um So now it's time uh for us to uh going uh to discuss a little uh things. You can think about uh experience with a remote control uh yourself, at home. What you think might be uh a useful uh new feature. What uh what can distinguish our new trendy remote control from all the others. Um so uh let's uh let's uh discuss a little. I'm gonna join you at the table. Well what what's the most uh important thing at a remote control?
Mark Ray: Um well I think the most important thing of a remote control is that you can switch channels. And my opinion is you should keep it as basic as possible.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Mark Ray: Uh
Ron Rodriguez: So not a not a remote control who uh uh which can uh can be used for television and a D_V_D_ and radio and Or
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: just only
Homer Branham: I think so. Uh but I have some points. Can I show them on the on the big screen?
Ron Rodriguez: If you
Homer Branham: Maybe?
Ron Rodriguez: have them on uh I
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: can uh
Homer Branham: Yeah, I can find Uh.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Oh, in case you want it This is a dead kind of fly. Between the the the, yeah, the the uh
Homer Branham: Screen?
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, be
Homer Branham: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: The screens.
Mark Ray: Is it possible to open pen drawings in this uh on
Ron Rodriguez: No
Mark Ray: this
Ron Rodriguez: no
Mark Ray: screen?
Ron Rodriguez: no. Only All the drawings go there, at the left uh
Mark Ray: Uh but um which The ones we made on the
Ron Rodriguez: Oh, that pen drawings. Uh no, I think uh when it is uh in Word and you have saved it in the Shared Documents folder, you can show it there.
Mark Ray: Oh, only in Word, okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Okay, I have some uh points from marketing point of view.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Um just the standard thing li things like uh intuitive, uh small, fairly cheap. Uh it's pretty cheap, twenty five Euros. Uh brand independent. Um I think, it doesn't have to matter uh which brand your T_V_ or
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: other thing is. Um
Ron Rodriguez: Okay. Five minutes.
Homer Branham: Five minutes? Okay,
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: I'll wrap it up quickly. Um I personally think it has to be multi-purpose. Uh most
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: of the remote c uh remote controls are uh just for one purpose.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: And uh by making it multi-purpose, it uh has a new feature, adds a new feature to the market, and distinguish from uh from current products.
Ron Rodriguez: Mm-hmm.
Homer Branham: Um maybe some other technology than infrared. Uh I rather find it very annoying um, like when someone is standing in front of the T_V_ then you can't switch it. Um think about um sending it over radio waves or bluetooth.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay. Okay.
Homer Branham: That might be a little bit uh expensive. Um And something like an L_C_D_ screen.
Mark Ray: For what purpose?
Homer Branham: Um uh like I said here um Maybe it's easy. It's nice as an added feature feature, that um, when you're on a certain channel, you can see on the L_C_D_ screen uh what programmes are
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Homer Branham: coming up or
Ron Rodriguez: So it be uh a multi-purpose uh very technically uh high uh
Homer Branham: From my point
Ron Rodriguez: remote?
Homer Branham: of view, yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah, it must be really uh innovative, technical-wise?
Homer Branham: Yeah, it has to be uh Yeah, our company is very uh good in making new
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: innovative uh things.
Ron Rodriguez: So yeah,
Homer Branham: So
Ron Rodriguez: I
Mark Ray: We
Homer Branham: i
Ron Rodriguez: I agree
Homer Branham: i
Ron Rodriguez: with you.
Homer Branham: i
Ron Rodriguez: So
Homer Branham: i
Ron Rodriguez: we must focus on things who are really uh really add something to uh to
Homer Branham: To the current market.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Look, you got some cheap uh remote controls there. They just uh Yeah, you got a dozen of 'em.
Ron Rodriguez: No.
Homer Branham: But when you enter a new market with a remote control
Ron Rodriguez: Mm-hmm.
Homer Branham: and uh wanna gain market share
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: you have to do something special,
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: I think.
Ron Rodriguez: But we have to keep an eye that it's Uh at the beginning of such a project, it's it's it's very uh cool to talk about, well, this would be cool, that would be cool.
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: Uh but we must not uh lose uh sight of the the user uh uh friendly uh
Homer Branham: Yeah, of course.
Mark Ray: And and
Homer Branham: But
Mark Ray: the
Homer Branham: it's
Mark Ray: price.
Homer Branham: But but this is just from marketing uh
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah okay.
Homer Branham: aspect.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: I don't
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Homer Branham: know anything about user interface or
Mark Ray: Okay.
Homer Branham: design.
Ron Rodriguez: And that's because we have him.
Michael Locher: And and him.
Mark Ray: And him.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay, uh next meeting will start in thirty minutes. So uh you uh will have uh individual actions where I presume uh will be some feedback, uh via the m the mail. Um the the the Industrial uh Designer has to uh look at the working design. Uh Mark Ray has to look at the technical functions. So
Mark Ray: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: that's the
Mark Ray: Um
Ron Rodriguez: thing we uh discussed.
Mark Ray: one
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah?
Mark Ray: thing uh, we must first agree on uh what we're going to m going to make. Do we Are we going to use um it it for multiple systems? Or uh We should have some agreement on that
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Mark Ray: before we
Ron Rodriguez: Um
Homer Branham: Mm
Ron Rodriguez: wha
Homer Branham: uh I I don't think we have to be, we have to agree on that. Uh
Michael Locher: I figure
Homer Branham: I think
Michael Locher: we could get
Homer Branham: th that's
Michael Locher: back to
Homer Branham: a
Michael Locher: it
Homer Branham: pha
Michael Locher: on the next meeting actually.
Homer Branham: Yeah. That's a phase
Mark Ray: Okay.
Homer Branham: further.
Michael Locher: Yeah.
Homer Branham: Ju just uh make some mock-ups, some some general ideas.
Mark Ray: Ah okay.
Homer Branham: And and then we can plan Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: We can plan further,
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: I think.
Ron Rodriguez: But maybe, because uh you are working on the user requirements, you are working on the technical functions, we uh must uh have a little or kinda uh uh uh How do you call it?
Mark Ray: Consensus
Ron Rodriguez: Uh
Mark Ray: on the, what
Ron Rodriguez: Uh
Mark Ray: we're gonna
Ron Rodriguez: a little
Mark Ray: do.
Ron Rodriguez: plan on on what we're going to do. So you don't uh uh come up with the user requirements who don't fit the the the the technical functions at all. Some basic things we co we want to going to do. Uh I think that's well uh Yeah. Will come in handy.
Homer Branham: Mm yeah. I don't
Mark Ray: Yeah.
Homer Branham: know. You decide.
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Homer Branham: You're Ron Rodriguez.
Ron Rodriguez: W He says
Mark Ray: Well yeah, if the technical functions have to be designed, I I've gotta know for what kind of machines
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Mark Ray: they will be. Or do we use it a text screen? Or uh will it be with uh with bluetooth
Ron Rodriguez: Well,
Mark Ray: or
Ron Rodriguez: th that's that's really a step further. But
Mark Ray: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: if you say uh is it uh uh one way or multi-purpose,
Mark Ray: Mm-hmm.
Ron Rodriguez: that's
Homer Branham: Uh tha
Ron Rodriguez: a
Homer Branham: that's a same step further.
Michael Locher: Yeah,
Ron Rodriguez: Why?
Michael Locher: actually it is.
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: Why?
Michael Locher: Then looking at
Homer Branham: Uh.
Michael Locher: individual components, so
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Michael Locher: that's actually a f step
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Michael Locher: further.
Homer Branham: Like we all have a list of uh things that has to b that have to be in it, or how it has to be like. And then in the next meeting
Ron Rodriguez: Yeah.
Homer Branham: we decide
Michael Locher: Yeah, we
Homer Branham: w
Michael Locher: can
Homer Branham: what
Michael Locher: take it from
Homer Branham: it's
Michael Locher: there.
Homer Branham: gonna be.
Michael Locher: Yeah,
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Michael Locher: I agree
Homer Branham: A
Michael Locher: uh, we can take it from there.
Homer Branham: And then you s then you can delete uh
Michael Locher: Or edit.
Homer Branham: the o the obsolete uh
Ron Rodriguez: Okay.
Homer Branham: details.
Ron Rodriguez: So
Homer Branham: I think.
Ron Rodriguez: uh each individually i individually uh must think on what's uh at uh his point of view is the most important.
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: And uh then we're going to fit uh all the pieces together the next meeting.
Homer Branham: Yeah.
Ron Rodriguez: I must finish off now, so it's over. You uh will receive specific specific instructions uh by your personal coach. And I see you in uh thirty minutes.
Michael Locher: Okay,
Mark Ray: Okay.
Ron Rodriguez: Thank you.
Michael Locher: cheers.
Mark Ray: Sorry.
Homer Branham: Damn.
Ron Rodriguez: Be careful.
Mark Ray: Yes.
Homer Branham: Success?
Mark Ray: Yeah.
Mark Ray: No. Come up. | The participants introduced themselves and their roles to each other. Ron Rodriguez introduced the aim of the project and gave a brief agenda for the entire project. He then introduced and explained how to use the meeting-room materials. The group acquainted themselves with the materials by drawing on the smartboard. Ron Rodriguez presented the project budget and explained that the device would not be made very high-tech due to the small budget. He explained that the device would be sold internationally. The group discussed their initial ideas of features to include in the design; Homer Branham discussed usability features, such as the ability to control multiple devices and an LCD screen, to make the product unique. Ron Rodriguez instructed Michael Locher to work on the working design and Mark Ray to research the technical functions. The group discussed the timing of when they would make decisions on the features discussed. | 1 | amisum | test |
Kenneth Rhodes: Welcome back.
Tomas Morrell: Hello.
Dennis Sloan: Hello.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh let Dennis Sloan see.
Tomas Morrell: There's one of mine.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay Roo. welcome back.
Tomas Morrell: Hello, Flores.
Kenneth Rhodes: The waiting is for Sebastian. There he is.
Tomas Morrell: We
James Ivey: Is
Tomas Morrell: have
James Ivey: there
Tomas Morrell: a slight
James Ivey: any time
Tomas Morrell: problem.
James Ivey: for a cup of coffee?
Tomas Morrell: I opened uh the
Kenneth Rhodes: Sorry?
Tomas Morrell: C_D_ ROM box
James Ivey: Can I get
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: a
Tomas Morrell: guys.
James Ivey: cup of coffee?
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh no.
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: You can't, sorry.
Tomas Morrell: So just cancel it.
James Ivey: Well, during my work I have no time either. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, this is life. Sorry uh, Roo.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah, I opened the C_D_ ROM box.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: Accidentally.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: But it's alright.
Kenneth Rhodes: People, welcome back with the second meeting. Um for now on the schedule are a few points. Uh first of all the opening, which we are doing now. Um second, I received um some new project requirements. I'm not sure if you received them as well, um but I will tell you about it.
Tomas Morrell: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: Um then um the three of you uh prepared a presentation, I think? Sebastian?
James Ivey: I think so too.
Kenneth Rhodes: Roo?
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Ruud?
Dennis Sloan: Almost.
Kenneth Rhodes: Almost, okay. Then we'll do your one uh uh as la uh the last. Um the top
Tomas Morrell: But you can't
Kenneth Rhodes: goal of
Tomas Morrell: upload
Kenneth Rhodes: this m
Tomas Morrell: your presentation from here, I believe.
Kenneth Rhodes: Um we will figure that out.
Tomas Morrell: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: Ca
Dennis Sloan: Uh
Kenneth Rhodes: can
Dennis Sloan: if
Kenneth Rhodes: you try
Dennis Sloan: it
Kenneth Rhodes: to
Dennis Sloan: if it wireless I could just uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
Dennis Sloan: it in the.
Kenneth Rhodes: w we will see.
Tomas Morrell: I don't think it's wireless
Kenneth Rhodes: Um
Tomas Morrell: here.
James Ivey: It is.
Tomas Morrell: Or it is.
Kenneth Rhodes: it
James Ivey: It
Kenneth Rhodes: is,
James Ivey: is.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah?
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
Tomas Morrell: Okay,
Dennis Sloan: Uh okay.
Tomas Morrell: great.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Um the top goal of this meeting is to reach a decision on the product, on the target group um and and the functions of the remote control, so keep that in mind. Um we have forty minutes. So it's now Yep. Okay. Um the new project requirements, first of all, um we didn't speak about it, but we should not um support teletext in the remote, um because our b um board uh feels that uh teletext is out of date and internet is replacing teletext. So um we are not even going to try to um implement it in our product. It's a board decision. Um the remote control should only be used for television, because it's not uh f uh feasible, it's not uh
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: w uh uh we we cannot make it because of the time to market um that we have to deal
Tomas Morrell: Time,
Kenneth Rhodes: with.
Tomas Morrell: yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh the third requirement is that we should focus on customers that are younger than uh forty, which is important for you, uh Ruud, and as well for uh Roo. Because the product should um be uh interesting and and uh should be bought by people younger than forty. Um then for Roo, as well uh important, the corporate image should be recognisable in our product. So the colour colours and the slogan um do have to be uh in the product.
Tomas Morrell: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: Is that clear? Any questions on these requirements? No? Okay. Um the individual presentations, I th um Roo or Sebastian, who of you would like to start?
Tomas Morrell: Yeah, I'll start
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh uh
James Ivey: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah. Okay, great.
Tomas Morrell: Um Oh, how can I uh Geez, and sli and show. Um Just uh press it. Uh yes. Alright. Um well w we uh we had discussed this already in the fin in the previous uh discussion. Uh the method of the remote control is just the function of remote control is basically to send messages to the television set. So that was the main uh important thing
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: what a remote control should do. Then I found uh two different kind of remote controls, the multi-function uh remote control with many possibilities, but um the lack of the feeling I already mentioned uh in the previous uh discussion.
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm-hmm.
Tomas Morrell: And the ease-of-use remote control with uh the less p possibilities but a great feeling in in touching the buttons.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: Um but um yeah. My personal preferences were ease of uh the easy to use remote control, because uh the user-friendliness and uh it can be more trendy in in user design. But um your new goal f was for uh people than less than forty years old.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh-huh.
Tomas Morrell: So maybe um the multi-function can be implemented in uh in our design. But it should b I think it should be a combination, but teletext buttons are not uh in our design. So it should uh take out, well, eight buttons or so. But my in my opinion, the the easy to use R_C_ is uh the best uh possi possibility for us.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay. Uh Ruud, did you get that?
Dennis Sloan: Yeah,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Dennis Sloan: uh b uh most.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, so the important thing here is
Tomas Morrell: And it's also
Dennis Sloan: Oh,
Tomas Morrell: i
Dennis Sloan: user-friendly.
Tomas Morrell: indeed uh uh Ruud's uh insight in the in the topic.
Kenneth Rhodes: In the market,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
Tomas Morrell: what what does the market want? I I don't know.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, okay, w we
Tomas Morrell: Just
Kenneth Rhodes: will s
Tomas Morrell: for uh
Kenneth Rhodes: we all
Tomas Morrell: for
Kenneth Rhodes: uh
Tomas Morrell: user desi uh user uh friendliness I uh should choose for the the ease of use remote control.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Okay. Sebastian.
James Ivey: Okay.
James Ivey: Excuse Dennis Sloan.
Tomas Morrell: Scusi.
James Ivey: Um Okay, it's still the right thing. Okay. Um well, there are some changes in the design requirements, so there are some changes in the method also. Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set. And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set. Well, I th I tried to uh implement a picture here, but it's
Tomas Morrell: Energies
James Ivey: hardly readable.
Tomas Morrell: and uh
James Ivey: Can you see it?
Kenneth Rhodes: No, it's
James Ivey: No?
Kenneth Rhodes: not visible.
James Ivey: Well Um, there's a energy source here. And um basically there it's connected to three things. The user interface connected to a chip, which is connected to the sender, which generates messages using uh infrared light, which are sent to the receiver. That's basically the idea. And there's a little picture, just for your imagination, how a device like this should look or can look. Okay. Um what have I found. Usually these kind of things consist of a battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board. That's all. It's cased together, nothing more than that. It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: is controlled infrared. There are some exceptions, but most of all have uh infrared controls. And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons. And I think that's
Tomas Morrell: The glow
James Ivey: what
Tomas Morrell: in
James Ivey: we
Tomas Morrell: the dark
James Ivey: w
Tomas Morrell: uh concept
James Ivey: yes.
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: In the and it's
Tomas Morrell: we discussed.
James Ivey: a little more a little bit more fancy also. So maybe we should
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: consider that.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: Okay. I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented. Um basically this is all there is. There's just one chip. There are a few buttons connected. Uh the buttons are lit. And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode, and there is not a power source here. So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment. There's nothing
Kenneth Rhodes: So it's
James Ivey: more
Kenneth Rhodes: fairly
James Ivey: to it.
Kenneth Rhodes: easy.
James Ivey: It's fairly easy. It's been done many times before, and
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: I think we should uh
Tomas Morrell: Succeed
James Ivey: we should
Tomas Morrell: in it
James Ivey: c s
Tomas Morrell: also.
James Ivey: succeed in in our plan to do this.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay,
James Ivey: So
Kenneth Rhodes: good.
James Ivey: Okay, so uh personally I think we should infra use infrared, because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set. So I think that uh should be clear.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse, friendly components. Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components. And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design, we should really implement them. Um for cost-effectiveness, we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board, um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques, blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff. I think our uh users will really uh will really like that.
Tomas Morrell: And what's the um if we use the LEDs, i does it use much more energy or
James Ivey: No, they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also.
Tomas Morrell: Okay.
James Ivey: So we can use them. So that's no problem.
Tomas Morrell: For the same costs,
James Ivey: Uh
Tomas Morrell: it's can
James Ivey: no,
Tomas Morrell: be
James Ivey: they're
Tomas Morrell: uh in
James Ivey: uh
Tomas Morrell: our
James Ivey: they're a little bit more expensive, but by uh um um
Tomas Morrell: Combined
James Ivey: making
Tomas Morrell: with the low-cost circuit board so it's
James Ivey: We can
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: we can make its I think.
Dennis Sloan: Well you could only lit uh the buttons the buttons that are used most. So, the channel switching.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Dennis Sloan: Or
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, but
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes
Tomas Morrell: But I
Kenneth Rhodes: such
Tomas Morrell: think
Kenneth Rhodes: a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques,
James Ivey: Hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: I guess.
Dennis Sloan: Hmm,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah, I
Dennis Sloan: true.
Tomas Morrell: think it's the same as in the cell phone, just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons, and
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: not for
James Ivey: Well, it's not one light, it there are more lights in a in a in a
Tomas Morrell: Yeah, but
James Ivey: mobile
Tomas Morrell: not for
James Ivey: device.
Tomas Morrell: each button
James Ivey: No
Tomas Morrell: one
James Ivey: no no,
Tomas Morrell: LED, I think.
James Ivey: no. That's right, that's right.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: So well, this uh should be it.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: Um have a think about it.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Okay,
Dennis Sloan: Oh,
Kenneth Rhodes: Ruud.
Dennis Sloan: mine is already outdated.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay well, we ar we
Dennis Sloan: Since
Kenneth Rhodes: are
Dennis Sloan: uh
Kenneth Rhodes: very curio curious to what the market um will feel about such a product. So any income is welcome. Input.
Dennis Sloan: Okay, make Well Uh then I'm sure the target market is uh ten million units.
Tomas Morrell: Could
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: you step a little bit more to the right? Yeah,
Dennis Sloan: But um
Tomas Morrell: thank you.
Dennis Sloan: since uh the other part is uh forty percent of the market, I uh thought earlier we might want to constrain that portion of the market. But uh since uh the requirements changed, that's uh not a good idea. Uh well, skip this.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Dennis Sloan: Well, it's this till true, of course. That they only use ten percent the buttons. The buttons to zap are used the about uh fifteen hundred times, when uh the power button is only used one time. And the volume button's only four times. So they're obv obviously uh the most important buttons. And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control.
James Ivey: Mm.
Dennis Sloan: So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them. Some uh audio signal. Like
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: uh home phones. Or
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, that's
James Ivey: Or
Kenneth Rhodes: interesting.
James Ivey: a find a finding
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: function,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
James Ivey: you know. That's
Kenneth Rhodes: that's
James Ivey: quite
Kenneth Rhodes: definitely
James Ivey: a
Kenneth Rhodes: interesting.
James Ivey: yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: It uh
Tomas Morrell: Sound
Kenneth Rhodes: it separates
Tomas Morrell: signal.
Kenneth Rhodes: our product from others uh
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: as well.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay,
James Ivey: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: go on.
Dennis Sloan: Well, I just said that. And uh well, this obvious, and he also said it.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay. So that's what the market tells us.
Dennis Sloan: Uh that's about it,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
Dennis Sloan: yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: The volume and uh the zap buttons are the mostly used.
Dennis Sloan: Uh mo uh zap
Tomas Morrell: So
Dennis Sloan: buttons most. Volume, they are uh use a lot. But
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
Dennis Sloan: more than
Tomas Morrell: well
Dennis Sloan: all
Tomas Morrell: it
Dennis Sloan: the
Tomas Morrell: should
Dennis Sloan: other buttons.
Tomas Morrell: just
Dennis Sloan: So
Tomas Morrell: have a design The perfect design for those only those buttons.
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: And first um
James Ivey: Yes, we should focus on that, I guess.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: Well, the technical uh there I think there are no technical difficulties. There's no um elaborate technique uh used in this uh kind of equipment. So um I don't think we have any hiccups there. So we can fully concentrate on developing a product that is really um what the market needs. So maybe it's a good idea to think about these buttons and and
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
James Ivey: uh
Tomas Morrell: the sound signal.
James Ivey: and a sound
Tomas Morrell: Just one
James Ivey: signal.
Tomas Morrell: thing I'm just wondering, the sound signal, from where do you
Dennis Sloan: Yeah, that's
Tomas Morrell: execute
James Ivey: Well
Dennis Sloan: uh
Tomas Morrell: th the s sound?
James Ivey: Yes. Th
Dennis Sloan: a problem.
James Ivey: that's
Tomas Morrell: Another
James Ivey: a bit of
Tomas Morrell: device
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: is not a
James Ivey: that's
Tomas Morrell: solution.
James Ivey: a problem.
Kenneth Rhodes: Well maybe
James Ivey: Usually
Tomas Morrell: It should be
Kenneth Rhodes: maybe
Tomas Morrell: uh uh
Kenneth Rhodes: like clapping in your hands, like um
James Ivey: Oh
Kenneth Rhodes: turning
James Ivey: yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: on and off the the the
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
Kenneth Rhodes: lights.
Tomas Morrell: but maybe
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: you'll uh get
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: some
James Ivey: there
Tomas Morrell: new
James Ivey: there
Tomas Morrell: technologies
James Ivey: are some devices
Tomas Morrell: for it.
James Ivey: who uh incorporate this technique already. Um there are video sets and um they have a special button, the find the remote control button. You press it and your T_V_ set starts to make a uh kind of weird sound, and your uh remote controls then start
Kenneth Rhodes: Reports
James Ivey: to beep.
Kenneth Rhodes: rep
James Ivey: And
Kenneth Rhodes: respend
James Ivey: um
Kenneth Rhodes: response
Tomas Morrell: Yeah, just
Kenneth Rhodes: to it.
Tomas Morrell: like uh
James Ivey: Yes. Yes, that's it.
Tomas Morrell: the phones the
James Ivey: Yes,
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
James Ivey: same thing.
Kenneth Rhodes: But
Tomas Morrell: But but
Kenneth Rhodes: uh
Tomas Morrell: T_V_s
Kenneth Rhodes: th
Tomas Morrell: don't have all uh
James Ivey: No, so we
Tomas Morrell: uh buttons.
James Ivey: we
Dennis Sloan: And
James Ivey: should
Dennis Sloan: you
James Ivey: use
Tomas Morrell: Uh
James Ivey: something else.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
Dennis Sloan: and usually
Kenneth Rhodes: because
Tomas Morrell: But I believe
Kenneth Rhodes: we do not
Tomas Morrell: you will
Kenneth Rhodes: have a
Tomas Morrell: have
Kenneth Rhodes: a
Tomas Morrell: an
Kenneth Rhodes: a a a home um
James Ivey: We do not control the T_V_ set so
Dennis Sloan: And
James Ivey: well.
Dennis Sloan: even if the T_V_ set would have such a button, uh you would have to walk
James Ivey: Yes,
Dennis Sloan: to your T_V_,
James Ivey: m yes. S
Dennis Sloan: and it's
James Ivey: so it's is easy as possible for our customers,
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: so
Kenneth Rhodes: So
James Ivey: we should
Kenneth Rhodes: what
James Ivey: think
Kenneth Rhodes: about the
James Ivey: about
Kenneth Rhodes: clapping technique? Um because
Tomas Morrell: I'm
Kenneth Rhodes: you se
Tomas Morrell: convinced uh Sebastian will uh find
James Ivey: It's quite
Tomas Morrell: uh one
James Ivey: complicated.
Tomas Morrell: solution for
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: us.
James Ivey: it's quite complicated. Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds.
Dennis Sloan: And
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, you
Dennis Sloan: b
Kenneth Rhodes: see it a lot in in light uh lightning
James Ivey: Yes, yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh uh
James Ivey: Well, basically the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, a
James Ivey: the amplitude
Kenneth Rhodes: peak. Yeah.
James Ivey: of the sound, which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from
Dennis Sloan: So
James Ivey: the
Dennis Sloan: if
James Ivey: point of
Dennis Sloan: if
James Ivey: view
Dennis Sloan: you'd
James Ivey: from
Dennis Sloan: be
James Ivey: a remote
Dennis Sloan: watching
James Ivey: control.
Dennis Sloan: a movie, it would constantly beep.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
James Ivey: Yes,
Kenneth Rhodes: that's true.
James Ivey: so we don't
Tomas Morrell: But we
James Ivey: want
Tomas Morrell: can
James Ivey: that.
Tomas Morrell: have just uh uh
James Ivey: Maybe we
Tomas Morrell: a
James Ivey: can
Tomas Morrell: home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_. Just a little antenna or uh something.
James Ivey: Something like that.
Tomas Morrell: Well
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: if you lost
James Ivey: is there
Kenneth Rhodes: Well
James Ivey: not
Kenneth Rhodes: uh
Tomas Morrell: th
James Ivey: something f
Tomas Morrell: I
James Ivey: something
Tomas Morrell: don't think
James Ivey: more
Tomas Morrell: people
James Ivey: easily
Tomas Morrell: would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button
James Ivey: Well, I don't think uh.
Tomas Morrell: because they lost the their remote. Uh that's
James Ivey: No, and
Tomas Morrell: just
James Ivey: y
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: the the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh. And then uh the remote control uh reports itself, so w we should use have uh we should use something like that. You do not want another device, which can be uh everywhere in the house, which you have to find first before you can find your remote control.
Tomas Morrell: just a base station next to the T_V_
James Ivey: Yes,
Tomas Morrell: is
James Ivey: something like that.
Tomas Morrell: the best
James Ivey: But that will be very
Tomas Morrell: possibility.
James Ivey: costly, I think. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, m
James Ivey: that's
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: maybe
James Ivey: not a good idea.
Kenneth Rhodes: um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function, if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things.
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later
James Ivey: I will.
Kenneth Rhodes: on and um come up with a solution,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: because that's his his field of expertise.
James Ivey: Yes. But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm-hmm.
James Ivey: um and it will become more costly also.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used. And there are some
Tomas Morrell: And
James Ivey: implepe
Tomas Morrell: do we even
James Ivey: imp
Tomas Morrell: uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs, the lightning
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: I I think
Tomas Morrell: function?
James Ivey: so, because um when you have a p newspaper
Tomas Morrell: It's
James Ivey: over
Tomas Morrell: a unique
James Ivey: your remote control,
Tomas Morrell: item uh
James Ivey: you cannot see it. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, it's a distinction
Tomas Morrell: It will be an
Kenneth Rhodes: in
Tomas Morrell: a
Kenneth Rhodes: the market.
Tomas Morrell: unique feature
Kenneth Rhodes: It's a different
Tomas Morrell: of
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: our
Kenneth Rhodes: exactly.
Tomas Morrell: remote control.
Kenneth Rhodes: It's an uni an unique feature,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights.
Tomas Morrell: And just about uh the user interface, I came up with um an easy remote control and an advanced remote control.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: What should we choose in in design?
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Well, um according to Ruud, um people do not use um
Tomas Morrell: Well, the extra functions.
Kenneth Rhodes: all the extra features very very often. So
Dennis Sloan: I have the numbers r I have the numbers right here.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: Well, t uh we won't support teletext which which was the third-most
Tomas Morrell: Used
Dennis Sloan: the second-most
Tomas Morrell: option.
Dennis Sloan: used function.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay. Well,
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: we we do have a wise board, so I'm not questioning that.
Dennis Sloan: Uh well yeah, channel selection is obviously the most important.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Okay, so on
Dennis Sloan: So
Kenneth Rhodes: the relevance scale uh the channel selection, the volume selection and the teletext.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, we skip
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: that.
Dennis Sloan: So
Tomas Morrell: Well,
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: so it just th the basic functions. And we don't have to use it for D_V_D_ players uh and all kind
James Ivey: No,
Tomas Morrell: of stuff.
Kenneth Rhodes: No.
Tomas Morrell: So
James Ivey: no.
Dennis Sloan: Nope.
James Ivey: So that's out of the question.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: So
Tomas Morrell: Just through uh the easy uh design.
Kenneth Rhodes: go
Tomas Morrell: We
Kenneth Rhodes: for
Tomas Morrell: can
Kenneth Rhodes: the
Tomas Morrell: make
Kenneth Rhodes: easier
Tomas Morrell: uh
Kenneth Rhodes: one.
Tomas Morrell: a nice design
James Ivey: I
Tomas Morrell: when
James Ivey: think also.
Tomas Morrell: when there's not mu uh much
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: buttons in it. So
James Ivey: Well, we
Kenneth Rhodes: No.
James Ivey: should save costs uh by not implementing a lot of functions and uh the money that we can save from that we should use for uh having a nice design and
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: uh thinking about the user interface and
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, Ruud, how do you feel about that? Uh do you agree, do you think the market would would respond to uh a simple
Dennis Sloan: Uh well if we um include other uh innovative functions
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm-hmm.
Dennis Sloan: uh then they uh might, 'cause young people uh like new features.
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm
Dennis Sloan: So
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
James Ivey: Yeah, that's right.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay,
James Ivey: Mm.
Kenneth Rhodes: so this is is kind of uh
Tomas Morrell: Uh just a few buttons, trendy design, nice lightning effects
James Ivey: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: wh and
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: the
James Ivey: is
Tomas Morrell: sound.
James Ivey: it maybe there's another possibility. You can make it look like an easy s piece of equipment, but it's quite elaborated, uh because it has many functions.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: Maybe it's more important to make the make it look like a very uh friendly, easy to catch piece of equipment, but um
Kenneth Rhodes: But but
James Ivey: nevertheless
Kenneth Rhodes: are we not in in the in the manual uh I mean if you have few buttons, no
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: display,
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: um I mean uh I guess it's l it's working with with a shift functions and um one button can
James Ivey: Ok
Kenneth Rhodes: uh
James Ivey: like that. Well, I was more thinking about a more elaborate way of controlling, by by these kinds of sticks or something like that. I don't know if if it's user-friendly. That's your field of expertise.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
Kenneth Rhodes: But
Tomas Morrell: I don't
Kenneth Rhodes: but how
Tomas Morrell: know
Kenneth Rhodes: does
Tomas Morrell: yet.
Kenneth Rhodes: how does the remote uh report uh r uh give back to the user w in what state it is? Because we do not implement
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh a
James Ivey: There's
Kenneth Rhodes: user
James Ivey: no,
Kenneth Rhodes: history.
James Ivey: but there's no way to do that, because we cannot implement that kind of the system.
Kenneth Rhodes: I know,
James Ivey: W
Kenneth Rhodes: but but if we use uh like a stick, for example,
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: um
James Ivey: Well, maybe we can use a light for that. When you move the stick to a to a position, maybe uh a light next to it can lit up. So you know I've just uh pushed the button, or I changed the channel or t uh turned up the volume. Something like that.
Dennis Sloan: And if you use that stick for volume control and channel uh selection, you have the m two most important functions
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh
Dennis Sloan: in one uh
Kenneth Rhodes: and
Dennis Sloan: button.
Kenneth Rhodes: we could
Tomas Morrell: But
Kenneth Rhodes: have
Tomas Morrell: does
Kenneth Rhodes: other
Tomas Morrell: it
Kenneth Rhodes: buttons
Tomas Morrell: uh
Kenneth Rhodes: for
Tomas Morrell: I
Kenneth Rhodes: the
Tomas Morrell: then
Kenneth Rhodes: for the
Tomas Morrell: should
Kenneth Rhodes: advanced
Tomas Morrell: n just
Kenneth Rhodes: uh
Tomas Morrell: use
Kenneth Rhodes: functions.
Tomas Morrell: uh i instead of the stick, uh like many cell phones, just a round m well, should we
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
Tomas Morrell: just
Kenneth Rhodes: draw
Tomas Morrell: use
Kenneth Rhodes: draw it
Tomas Morrell: a
Kenneth Rhodes: on the board.
Tomas Morrell: oh, we have a blank. Oh.
James Ivey: Oh yeah, something like that. It's
Tomas Morrell: It's
James Ivey: not
Tomas Morrell: just
James Ivey: really a
Tomas Morrell: an
James Ivey: stick,
Tomas Morrell: easy
James Ivey: but
Tomas Morrell: uh way of of a round button what which can be pushed in
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: four directions.
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: Instead of a stick. A stick is v vulnerab vulnerable
James Ivey: Hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
Tomas Morrell: when
Kenneth Rhodes: it
Tomas Morrell: it's
Kenneth Rhodes: can
Tomas Morrell: falling
Kenneth Rhodes: break down.
Tomas Morrell: down or uh
James Ivey: Yes,
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
James Ivey: yes.
Tomas Morrell: just a round uh button
James Ivey: And
Tomas Morrell: should be the trick, I think.
James Ivey: Yes, and this also looks more fancy, I think. I think
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: it it will attract uh more
Dennis Sloan: A
James Ivey: uh uh
Dennis Sloan: younger
James Ivey: public,
Dennis Sloan: uh
James Ivey: I think.
Dennis Sloan: Huh.
James Ivey: But you're the marketing man.
Dennis Sloan: And it's also quite easy to use, so it'll it uh attract younger people because well new, and it might attract older people because it's easy to use.
Tomas Morrell: Geez. Well, volume and something uh like that.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh-huh.
Tomas Morrell: The programme up and down.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, yeah.
Tomas Morrell: And the vol yeah, the pen doesn't uh really does what I want.
James Ivey: Okay, that's good.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, but w we still we're still in the question of uh um uh putting in advanced options. Um Ruud just told us um the market is interested in some advanced uh new techniques. Um however, uh keeping it simple is is important for the costs and all all those kind of things. We need to find a balance between
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh the advanced techniques and and the user-friendliness.
Tomas Morrell: But I think our our next step to look at is just that. So I don't think it's um we have something to do. Uh we can't discuss it right now, because n no one of us have has the information to discuss about that,
Kenneth Rhodes: Um well,
Tomas Morrell: I think.
Kenneth Rhodes: for we do have to uh decide this this meeting.
Tomas Morrell: Yes?
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. We need to um have the uh the user function uh the functions
Tomas Morrell: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: decided and um
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh our target audience.
Tomas Morrell: 'Kay,
James Ivey: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: but teletext is so uh is just
James Ivey: Do
Tomas Morrell: scrapped.
James Ivey: do you want a list of functions? Do you want an explicit list? Uh which uh incorporates all function available on the device?
Kenneth Rhodes: Um well, I do not want a full uh it's not necessary to to have a full list, but I want um the kind of functions, for
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: example
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh th the most important are volume and uh programme selecting.
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Tomas Morrell: The ten digits.
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, for example, that that's what we should think about. l how is the remote going to look?
Tomas Morrell: Oh,
Kenneth Rhodes: Not not in the user
Tomas Morrell: and just
Kenneth Rhodes: interface,
Tomas Morrell: one function.
Kenneth Rhodes: but
Tomas Morrell: The the the the programme to programme button, the switch to uh two channels,
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Tomas Morrell: when you have uh something on channel
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: four and something on channel six,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
Tomas Morrell: just one button which which can uh
Kenneth Rhodes: A
James Ivey: Change.
Kenneth Rhodes: bit of a split
Tomas Morrell: change
Kenneth Rhodes: mode. Uh l like
Tomas Morrell: yeah.
James Ivey: Yes, yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. Dual channel watch.
James Ivey: Yes.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, well um m maybe I should write that down.
James Ivey: Well you're the secretary.
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh Ruud, um what's your last name?
Dennis Sloan: Mielsen.
Kenneth Rhodes: Mielsen, because I I was writing it down in the last uh Mielsen. Right. Um I put all the minutes I make into the shared folder. So if you want to have a look at it, you know where to find
James Ivey: Mm
Kenneth Rhodes: it.
James Ivey: okay,
Tomas Morrell: Alright.
James Ivey: but
Kenneth Rhodes: Um
James Ivey: make a s make a sub-folder for it, because it's starting to fill up already.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, that's
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: that's if you want to do it, Sebastian.
James Ivey: Sure.
Tomas Morrell: Our B_S_C_ uh W_ uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, um Okay, so so um uh Volume. Programme. Uh dual channel. Uh
James Ivey: Yes, that's important.
Kenneth Rhodes: And and do we want um
Tomas Morrell: The
Kenneth Rhodes: the
Tomas Morrell: ten
Kenneth Rhodes: ten
Tomas Morrell: digits?
Kenneth Rhodes: digits?
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: I believe so.
James Ivey: are are you sure?
Dennis Sloan: Well, if you want to go
James Ivey: I'm
Dennis Sloan: to
James Ivey: not so
Dennis Sloan: channel
James Ivey: sure.
Dennis Sloan: ninety and you have th that button.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: Well, that's complicated,
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: but is that so relevant? Because I don't think but you should uh shou
Tomas Morrell: I wouldn't
James Ivey: you should know
Tomas Morrell: buy
James Ivey: that.
Tomas Morrell: it personally.
James Ivey: If it
Tomas Morrell: A remote
James Ivey: were so.
Tomas Morrell: control without the ten digits.
James Ivey: Okay, I can
Tomas Morrell: Uh
James Ivey: imagine
Tomas Morrell: and I think
James Ivey: when
Tomas Morrell: the
Kenneth Rhodes: I
Tomas Morrell: most
Kenneth Rhodes: agree actually.
James Ivey: I can
Tomas Morrell: Just
James Ivey: imagine
Tomas Morrell: elder
James Ivey: when
Tomas Morrell: elder
James Ivey: you're when
Tomas Morrell: people
James Ivey: you
Dennis Sloan: Well
James Ivey: have a
Tomas Morrell: would
James Ivey: satellite
Tomas Morrell: would buy
James Ivey: decoder
Tomas Morrell: it, but
James Ivey: and and you have, well, about six hundred channels, I can imagine you want this. But if you're uh a regular T_V_ user, and you just want uh to watch the the Dutch television networks, well, you can uh you can use uh about ten buttons.
Kenneth Rhodes: But
James Ivey: That's enough.
Kenneth Rhodes: we do
Dennis Sloan: But
Kenneth Rhodes: have
Tomas Morrell: Yep.
Kenneth Rhodes: thirteen different Dutch channels.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah,
Tomas Morrell: The older
Dennis Sloan: and
James Ivey: Well,
Tomas Morrell: people
Dennis Sloan: if
James Ivey: but
Tomas Morrell: only
James Ivey: how
Dennis Sloan: if
Tomas Morrell: use
Dennis Sloan: we
James Ivey: how
Tomas Morrell: five
James Ivey: often
Tomas Morrell: of them.
James Ivey: do you watch
Dennis Sloan: And if
James Ivey: all
Dennis Sloan: we are
James Ivey: these channels?
Dennis Sloan: targeting
Kenneth Rhodes: Often.
Dennis Sloan: at the younger audience, they will probably watch more channels than the older people. So
James Ivey: No, you're probably right.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: Okay. But I think these uh ten uh buttons look a bit dull. Don't you think?
Kenneth Rhodes: Well, it depends on the on the on the
James Ivey: The
Kenneth Rhodes: looks,
James Ivey: design.
Kenneth Rhodes: on the
Tomas Morrell: On
Kenneth Rhodes: on
Tomas Morrell: the design.
Kenneth Rhodes: the
James Ivey: Okay. Well, y then there should be
Dennis Sloan: Well
James Ivey: should done be done
Kenneth Rhodes: You
James Ivey: something specific
Kenneth Rhodes: c
Dennis Sloan: And
James Ivey: with
Kenneth Rhodes: you
James Ivey: it.
Kenneth Rhodes: can d make them very fancy by um I mean Nokia, they have ten digits on their phones
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: and it still looks very fancy.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: So I'm I'm I do not agree Uh
James Ivey: Okay, so you can experiment by uh with with shape or with size or with colour, that
Kenneth Rhodes: Exactly,
James Ivey: kind of thing.
Kenneth Rhodes: exactly.
James Ivey: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: And um there are some numbers about uh speech recognition here that uh younger people would like it. Uh it might be expensive and uh hard to implement, but it would be a solution uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay,
Dennis Sloan: for
Kenneth Rhodes: speech.
James Ivey: Well, maybe it can be combined with the find the remote control.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: So um when you add uh speech recognition to your remote control, uh it's very easy to change uh the channel.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: That's one thing. And it's very easy uh
Kenneth Rhodes: To
James Ivey: to
Kenneth Rhodes: find
James Ivey: find your remote control.
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
James Ivey: So maybe that's a possibility, but I'm afraid it will be a bit costly.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
James Ivey: But
Kenneth Rhodes: Uh
James Ivey: maybe when we uh
Kenneth Rhodes: If if we would um drop the ten digits
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: but keep the programme and the volume, because maybe
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: people do not always want to use their voice,
James Ivey: Okay, okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: um
Dennis Sloan: Especially elder people uh don't like voice recognition. So then we should implement such a but
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. But we do focus on younger people. We d
James Ivey: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: it it's a board
James Ivey: Well.
Kenneth Rhodes: uh decision.
James Ivey: I I think it should uh should work, it sh we should manage that.
Tomas Morrell: So we have to i
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Tomas Morrell: to make um a decision between the ten digits or the voice recognition.
James Ivey: Yes. Well, the voice recognition has the main adva has another advantage. It's mas it makes it very easy for us to implement the find uh find the remote control button uh remote control
Tomas Morrell: Mm-hmm.
James Ivey: function. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: that's that's a big advantage, I think.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, g good.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: There's only one disadvantage uh by implementing this. Um the power saving power saving will be a bit more difficult. So we can expect that there will be a less longer life to the batteries.
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm.
James Ivey: But maybe can we we can think something smart about it.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: So when you just
Kenneth Rhodes: But
James Ivey: leave the device in a in a light room, it charges itself. You have
Kenneth Rhodes: But
James Ivey: to do nothing
Kenneth Rhodes: but can
James Ivey: for
Kenneth Rhodes: we
James Ivey: it.
Kenneth Rhodes: manage it
Dennis Sloan: M
Kenneth Rhodes: bu uh for the costs? Because it seems
Tomas Morrell: Twelve
Kenneth Rhodes: like
Tomas Morrell: dollar
Kenneth Rhodes: a very
Tomas Morrell: fifty.
Dennis Sloan: And uh if
James Ivey: Maybe,
Dennis Sloan: we
James Ivey: maybe not.
Dennis Sloan: if
James Ivey: I'll
Dennis Sloan: we
James Ivey: have to
Dennis Sloan: could
James Ivey: find that
Dennis Sloan: inc
James Ivey: out.
Dennis Sloan: uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge,
James Ivey: Yes.
Dennis Sloan: then
James Ivey: So
Dennis Sloan: there wouldn't be uh a big problem.
James Ivey: No, that's
Dennis Sloan: 'Cause
James Ivey: very
Dennis Sloan: when
James Ivey: cheap.
Kenneth Rhodes: Is
James Ivey: It's
Kenneth Rhodes: a cradle very cheap?
James Ivey: Oh, it's very cheap. That's no problem. It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts.
Kenneth Rhodes: I know,
James Ivey: It's
Kenneth Rhodes: b uh but there should be an adapter as well.
James Ivey: Yes, but they're they're
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
James Ivey: mass production. They're very cheap. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: it will cost us p practically nothing.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay. We we have uh about ten minutes left this meeting. Um I would like to hear um maybe maybe you all have th uh things not um spoken about, yeah, but that are important. Uh Ruud, you you came up with the voice recognition uh data. Uh are there other things about the market we should know?
Dennis Sloan: Um I think we dealt with the most important information. Just that the younger part of uh the market isn't the forty percent we uh want to sell to. So we we should uh for least a bit uh look at the uh older people. But with
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: uh buttons like that, which are easy to use, we uh might attract them too. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
Dennis Sloan: I don't think that's a big problem
James Ivey: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, so although we are focussing on younger people uh to make it uh profitable uh
Dennis Sloan: Yes.
James Ivey: Profitable.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah, profitable.
Kenneth Rhodes: Profitable. We we yeah, we still need to take in account the the bit older people.
Dennis Sloan: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay. O okay. Um Roo.
Tomas Morrell: I have nothing uh nothing to add,
Kenneth Rhodes: Nothing to
Tomas Morrell: I think.
Kenneth Rhodes: add. Sebastian?
James Ivey: Um I just want to make a summary of all all things
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah?
James Ivey: uh spoken and uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Great.
James Ivey: the different possibilities. Um so uh basically we've decided to implement a seemingly uh easy design. So on the outside it looks easy, but uh we can make it easy on the inside or elaborate on the inside. So that's one the those are the choices we have to make. But I think there's a big advantage in making it more elaborate by uh implementing uh speech techniques, uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Mm-hmm.
James Ivey: voice recognition, that these kinds of things.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: Um it makes it also more uh attractable, I think, to our uh audience. Um there are some advantages and some disadvantages, and the main advantage is that we can implement uh fancy techniques, which uh I think our customers will like. The disadvantage is that there are some concerns about uh the the costs and um the things like uh battery lifetime, energy saving.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: Uh another advantage is that the circuit board will become much more easier if we do not do not implement these buttons. If we just add uh uh a chip which does the voice recognition, uh our circuit board will become even more cheap. So
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah, and that was
James Ivey: that's another
Kenneth Rhodes: the main issue, right? The
James Ivey: well, it
Kenneth Rhodes: the
James Ivey: wa
Kenneth Rhodes: board
James Ivey: it w it was an issue, but we also thought that we already thought we should do it as cheaply as possible.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah.
James Ivey: And this even uh makes it more cheapy. So
Tomas Morrell: But the cheaper the ch uh the the chip or th
James Ivey: Mm-hmm.
Tomas Morrell: what was
Kenneth Rhodes: The
Tomas Morrell: it?
Kenneth Rhodes: board.
Tomas Morrell: The
James Ivey: The
Tomas Morrell: circuit
James Ivey: circuit
Tomas Morrell: board.
James Ivey: board.
Tomas Morrell: The fewer buttons you can use
James Ivey: The
Kenneth Rhodes: No,
James Ivey: fewer
Tomas Morrell: on
Kenneth Rhodes: it's
Tomas Morrell: it.
Kenneth Rhodes: th
James Ivey: buttons you have,
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
James Ivey: the ch ch the cheaper
Tomas Morrell: Yeah,
James Ivey: the circuit
Tomas Morrell: okay.
James Ivey: board,
Kenneth Rhodes: It's the other way around,
James Ivey: yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: yeah.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
James Ivey: And it's very cheap uh to incorporate uh uh an integrated circuit, a chip. So that's that's another
Kenneth Rhodes: It shouldn't be
James Ivey: advantage.
Kenneth Rhodes: a big issue.
Tomas Morrell: Well it then
James Ivey: So
Tomas Morrell: we should just uh take a look at the costs and
James Ivey: Yes,
Tomas Morrell: uh
James Ivey: because I don't
Tomas Morrell: especially
James Ivey: know
Tomas Morrell: for the voice recognition.
James Ivey: Yes. I d I really don't know. So
Tomas Morrell: No.
James Ivey: It
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay.
James Ivey: can be costly. Maybe not.
Kenneth Rhodes: I'm not sure how how we'll f uh determine the costs, I will have a look at it. Maybe you will
James Ivey: Yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: get some information on that. Um
James Ivey: Yes,
Kenneth Rhodes: I'm
James Ivey: I
Kenneth Rhodes: not
James Ivey: al
Kenneth Rhodes: sure how how
James Ivey: I
Kenneth Rhodes: that
James Ivey: I hope my personal coach will uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: have a lo uh look at it.
Kenneth Rhodes: Okay, great. Um well, I
Tomas Morrell: We're
Kenneth Rhodes: think
Tomas Morrell: done,
Kenneth Rhodes: we're
Tomas Morrell: I think.
Kenneth Rhodes: qui quite done. Um for now we will have the lunch break.
James Ivey: How nice.
Kenneth Rhodes: Um I'm don't know how long the break will be, but we'll find
Tomas Morrell: Dennis Sloan
Kenneth Rhodes: out.
Tomas Morrell: neither.
Kenneth Rhodes: Um then we will have thirty minutes of time to perform our individual work, uh and I'm sure your personal coaches will uh assist you with it. Um I will put the minutes I just made in the project documents folder. If you want to look at it um well, just do. Um the Interface Designer, um I would like to the next meeting I would like to receive the uh components concept. Uh Roo, um from you I would
Tomas Morrell: Interface
Kenneth Rhodes: like to
Tomas Morrell: industrial.
Kenneth Rhodes: see Uh I'm sorry, yeah,
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: I'm sorry. User
James Ivey: Well,
Kenneth Rhodes: Interface
James Ivey: we understand.
Kenneth Rhodes: Designer, uh Roo, I would like to see the user interface c uh concept. And um
Tomas Morrell: Uh the only problem is it that it depends on the divisions the decis uh decisions Sebastian makes.
James Ivey: Well
Tomas Morrell: About the voice
Kenneth Rhodes: Well,
Tomas Morrell: recognition.
Kenneth Rhodes: i it should
Tomas Morrell: Well
Kenneth Rhodes: be easy, that's w w what we concluded. It should
James Ivey: Mm yes.
Kenneth Rhodes: be an easy interface with not so much buttons.
Tomas Morrell: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: S just a a p a p a volume and a programme one. And um um yeah, some some fancy lights. I think that's what we decided.
James Ivey: So we drop the voice recognition?
Kenneth Rhodes: No
James Ivey: Or
Kenneth Rhodes: no no,
James Ivey: Oh.
Kenneth Rhodes: we didn't but it shouldn't be integrated yeah, it's of course it's user interface, but um i I was talking about really the
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: design of the
James Ivey: Well um do we really have to decide now or
Kenneth Rhodes: No.
James Ivey: can we decide next meeting?
Kenneth Rhodes: We can decide the next meeting.
James Ivey: Okay.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yep.
James Ivey: Because I'll have some updated info on that uh
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah. I guess all of you have i updated info. I'm sure
Tomas Morrell: Yep.
Kenneth Rhodes: Dennis Sloan will receive uh t uh you will do some trend watching. And I'm sure
Dennis Sloan: Hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: the market will um uh uh will change,
Tomas Morrell: Adapt.
James Ivey: Adapt.
Dennis Sloan: Left.
Kenneth Rhodes: adapt
Dennis Sloan: Hmm.
Kenneth Rhodes: and um so we will see that. Um yeah, that's
Tomas Morrell: That's
Kenneth Rhodes: it for
Tomas Morrell: it.
Kenneth Rhodes: now.
Tomas Morrell: 'Kay.
Kenneth Rhodes: Any other questions or can we have the lunch?
James Ivey: We can have the lunch.
Dennis Sloan: Yeah.
Kenneth Rhodes: Yeah,
Tomas Morrell: I'll
Kenneth Rhodes: okay.
Tomas Morrell: take the lunch.
Kenneth Rhodes: Good. | There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 40. Tomas Morrell preferred an easy-to-use remote to a multi-function one. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The use of infrared, energy-efficient power source and cheap circuit was suggested. The remote could light up via LED's placed inside. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being easy to lose. It also transpires that customers like innovative technology like speech recognition. The design can focus on such customer needs, like finding a mechanism to locate a lost remote. The functions of the remote will include a back button to switch between two channels, volume, program selection, and speech recognition, with a focus on simplicity of design. | 1 | amisum | test |
Edward Graham: Do you need to change anything on it
Rory Ayers: Um
Edward Graham: Because? otherwise I will already open it.
Rory Ayers: Mm, don't think so.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Rory Ayers: Unless uh things have suddenly change again.
Edward Graham: Is it much changes?
Rory Ayers: Uh don't know. Maybe uh
Edward Graham: Uh I didn't
Rory Ayers: you've got new information,
Edward Graham: No no. I do
Rory Ayers: like
Edward Graham: hot have
Rory Ayers: uh last time.
Edward Graham: Only the same information.
Rory Ayers: Okay.
Edward Graham: Hello, Sebastian.
Ira Dayton: Hello hello Mister P_M_.
Edward Graham: I believe uh Miss uh Tentel is with us as well, in the control room.
Ira Dayton: Well, that's where the thinking goes on.
Edward Graham: Oh, it's that Roo again, always late. Bongiorno.
Michael Flores: Bongiorno.
Ira Dayton: I think you should punish him. You're the P_M_.
Edward Graham: Hmm.
Michael Flores: Punish.
Edward Graham: I see some interesting okay.
Ira Dayton: Possibilities,
Michael Flores: You wish.
Ira Dayton: yeah?
Edward Graham: People, welcome back.
Michael Flores: Welcome.
Edward Graham: The third
Michael Flores: Uh
Edward Graham: meeting.
Rory Ayers: Oop.
Edward Graham: I some points I would like to uh some some issues I would like to point out. Um first of all, um if you make minutes yourself as well, uh like Sebastian does, um could you put them on the shared folder? If you do not make minutes, no problem, but it's easy for Rory Ayers to see what
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: you uh wrote down, so I could uh can uh um use that in the in the report. Um the second thing, um I was th uh s thinking to myself, I have this little remote control, and I'm talking to it, but I still need to point to the television, because it works with infrared. That's quite strange.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: We'll come to that later, I g I think. Um the agenda for now uh uh are there any pre-discussion questions?
Michael Flores: No.
Ira Dayton: Not at all.
Rory Ayers: No.
Edward Graham: Okay. Um we wi we will have your individual presentations, uh then the decision on the remote control concept, um and uh the closing. Forty minutes in total for this. So um I think we we can immedis immediately start with the individual presentations,
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: um the progress you've made. Um I think it might be smart to look at uh Ruud's um information first,
Rory Ayers: 'Kay.
Edward Graham: because I understood there are some uh significant changes in the market
Rory Ayers: Hmm?
Edward Graham: situation.
Michael Flores: Alright.
Rory Ayers: Oh.
Ira Dayton: Just press the okay button, it
Rory Ayers: Yeah,
Ira Dayton: works.
Rory Ayers: Okay.
Edward Graham: Um
Rory Ayers: Yeah.
Edward Graham: yeah.
Rory Ayers: Yeah. My method?
Ira Dayton: How surprising.
Rory Ayers: Well, findings. Uh Ease of use is important, but uh innovation is more important, and a fancy look and feel is uh even more important. watchers have found out that the young target group likes fruit and vegetables in their uh clothes, shoes and furniture, and that they want spongy material. Probably watch too much Sponge Bob. Uh the older group uh still prefers dark colours. Simple shapes uh m material. But we since we are concentrating on uh the
Edward Graham: Uh
Rory Ayers: younger
Edward Graham: w
Rory Ayers: group
Edward Graham: wait a
Ira Dayton: Oh
Edward Graham: sec
Ira Dayton: wait uh wait up.
Edward Graham: wait a se uh could you go to the previous slide? Um because I'm taking minutes and it
Rory Ayers: 'Kay.
Edward Graham: Um were the important themes enclose. Yeah okay. The feel of to be spongy
Ira Dayton: Uh so do you think um when fruit and vegetables are important for clothing and shoes that they are in remote controls also?
Rory Ayers: Well, uh one example given was this, so um I assume they just want something colourful. Not uh
Ira Dayton: Not
Rory Ayers: specifically
Ira Dayton: something dull.
Rory Ayers: uh an apple as a
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Rory Ayers: remote control
Michael Flores: But they
Rory Ayers: or
Michael Flores: like
Rory Ayers: something.
Michael Flores: dark colours, you said in
Rory Ayers: No,
Michael Flores: the
Rory Ayers: uh
Michael Flores: p
Rory Ayers: the younger group likes uh more colourful
Michael Flores: Okay.
Rory Ayers: uh objects.
Michael Flores: Well then I suggest that the
Rory Ayers: But
Michael Flores: corporate colours are grey and yellow. I
Ira Dayton: But
Michael Flores: had
Ira Dayton: can you can you go back to that slide? The
Rory Ayers: Which one?
Ira Dayton: uh
Rory Ayers: This?
Ira Dayton: just one slide back, no no no. Yes. Okay, and the feel of the material has to be spongy.
Rory Ayers: Yes.
Ira Dayton: Has it something to do with that uh natural feeling also, do you think?
Rory Ayers: Uh well, it might. But personally I wouldn't like a sponge as a remote control. But Maybe soft material or something. But not
Edward Graham: Okay, so
Rory Ayers: a real
Edward Graham: so,
Rory Ayers: sponge.
Edward Graham: yeah, it might not be t uh it it shouldn't be too hard. It it maybe it rubber or or
Rory Ayers: Yeah, exactly.
Edward Graham: yeah. Okay.
Rory Ayers: Yeah, and like uh
Michael Flores: Or we could
Rory Ayers: the older
Michael Flores: make
Rory Ayers: group
Michael Flores: oh.
Rory Ayers: likes familiar materials, but that doesn't mean we should use wood, So
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Rory Ayers: Well, this this is an example of what they would like. But since we're conten concentrating on uh the younger group, I think we should use soft materials and uh make it colourful or uh like cell phones, exch exchangeable covers.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Rory Ayers: So we could provide both for the young and the old what they like.
Edward Graham: Well, that's interesting.
Ira Dayton: It's quite interesting.
Edward Graham: You could make a few v very colourful ones,
Michael Flores: Yeah, o o
Edward Graham: and uh a very traditional
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: co
Michael Flores: I'm thinking
Edward Graham: cover.
Michael Flores: about uh the Bananarama telephone uh telephone from uh Siemens. The yellow uh rubber
Edward Graham: Yeah, yeah.
Michael Flores: telephone. It's the it's the rubber uh
Edward Graham: Yeah, it is, it
Michael Flores: cover.
Edward Graham: is i yeah.
Michael Flores: And uh colourful. It
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: looks likes a banana. We have the fruit, we have the colours.
Edward Graham: Do
Michael Flores: We have
Edward Graham: you know
Michael Flores: the simple
Edward Graham: the phone?
Michael Flores: design.
Ira Dayton: I don't know the phone, but
Edward Graham: It's the Siemens
Ira Dayton: I can imagine
Edward Graham: uh
Ira Dayton: it.
Edward Graham: C_ twenty five,
Michael Flores: Um
Edward Graham: I believe it's it's
Michael Flores: thirty
Edward Graham: the
Michael Flores: five.
Edward Graham: one the Post-bank uh gave away,
Ira Dayton: Oh, that one,
Edward Graham: the
Michael Flores: And
Ira Dayton: yes.
Edward Graham: very
Michael Flores: the b the light
Ira Dayton: Now
Michael Flores: blue
Ira Dayton: I kn uh oh, I know,
Michael Flores: and
Ira Dayton: I know.
Michael Flores: it's also in yellow.
Ira Dayton: Yes, I I've seen it. I've seen it.
Edward Graham: You kn you know, Ruud, as well? About
Rory Ayers: I've
Edward Graham: th
Rory Ayers: seen it, but
Edward Graham: Okay. Okay. Um uh okay. Do
Rory Ayers: 'Kay.
Edward Graham: you have uh thit that was
Rory Ayers: Uh that's about it.
Edward Graham: Okay. Okay, so the the m uh important findings are uh innovation is more important than ease of use for the our target group.
Rory Ayers: Yes.
Edward Graham: And um colouring is important and and
Rory Ayers: Uh
Edward Graham: uh
Rory Ayers: soft material.
Edward Graham: soft materials. Okay.
Ira Dayton: So So ease of use is important, but technology is twice as important. And what was even more important?
Rory Ayers: Uh the fancy look and feel.
Ira Dayton: Okay. So that's the most important thing for
Rory Ayers: Yes.
Ira Dayton: our customers.
Rory Ayers: Apparently.
Edward Graham: Okay, Roo,
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: could you do your presentation?
Michael Flores: Mm-hmm. Well, I don't ha really have much to add, um because most of things we already said in uh the previous uh discussion. Um
Edward Graham: Okay, well it's good to to sum up uh the things we already thought about.
Michael Flores: Uh the previous ideas were voice recognition and uh the round button for uh the p channel programming and uh volume. Well, a few interface I uh I found on the internet are are these. These are both with uh with voice recognition, but they're very advanced and very high-tech and just um, well, a weird um
Edward Graham: Shape.
Michael Flores: shape. So I suggest I couldn't uh I had a small uh mock-up uh sign on the on paper. But it didn't work. My pen didn't load um the information. So I made a really simple f uh a shape on uh in um PowerPoint. But we could make uh a round uh an oval uh um
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm. But it's it's
Michael Flores: remote
Ira Dayton: kind
Michael Flores: control.
Ira Dayton: of uh
Michael Flores: Uh yellow.
Ira Dayton: it's kind of o organic, so that's very good.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Rory Ayers: Yeah.
Edward Graham: And what I'm thinking about, maybe um we should make very light but um uh a grip um I mean this is how you hold a remote control.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: Um it shouldn't be too uh glatt, too
Ira Dayton: Slippery.
Edward Graham: slippery, s because
Michael Flores: But
Edward Graham: um
Michael Flores: if you
Ira Dayton: You have
Michael Flores: have
Ira Dayton: to
Michael Flores: something
Ira Dayton: grab it.
Michael Flores: like uh the Siemens phone,
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: it's rubber. So
Edward Graham: Yeah, exactly.
Michael Flores: it's easy in your hand Uh
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: indeed.
Ira Dayton: Yes. There are there are also remote controls who have uh a little shape underneath
Edward Graham: Yeah,
Ira Dayton: where
Edward Graham: ex
Ira Dayton: you can put
Edward Graham: for
Ira Dayton: your fingers
Edward Graham: your fingers,
Ira Dayton: in,
Edward Graham: yeah.
Ira Dayton: so you can get
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: a really good grip on it. So you you don't have to um attain much pressure to it. It's it's a lot easier.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: It grips
Ira Dayton: m
Edward Graham: automatically.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: Yeah,
Ira Dayton: But
Edward Graham: okay.
Ira Dayton: I'll I'll go into that deeper in my presentation.
Edward Graham: Okay, good.
Michael Flores: Great.
Michael Flores: Oh and um to add on um Ruud's information, in this um interface we can have uh high-tech with the voice recognition and uh, well, the the fancy colours and uh and so on, and still have the ease of use, because we have an easy interface. And all the other remote controls are high-tech in buttons
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: and uh
Edward Graham: Way
Michael Flores: and so
Edward Graham: too
Michael Flores: on.
Edward Graham: much I think for
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: our goal, yeah.
Michael Flores: So if you have the voice recognition, you can you can programme like thirty uh um
Edward Graham: Okay,
Michael Flores: thirty c
Ira Dayton: Okay,
Michael Flores: uh
Edward Graham: b but I think
Ira Dayton: but
Michael Flores: controls
Ira Dayton: I'll
Edward Graham: we'll
Ira Dayton: I'll
Michael Flores: on
Ira Dayton: go
Michael Flores: it.
Ira Dayton: into that,
Edward Graham: yeah.
Ira Dayton: because there are are some possibilities and some impossibilities. Um I had a talk with uh our manufacturing uh division, and uh we had a talk about all the different components um who are in this design. Uh these are the things we've looked at. And of course I used the web to uh find my information. About the casing, we have three different casing possibilities. We have the uncurved or flat case. Uh that's the most common uh remote con control form uh we're used to is just a it ju it's just a box. I'm sorry I I don't have any pictures of uh of this thing. We have uh a curved one. It's uh curved in two dimensions. You have to imagine it's a bit like a wave form. So it's uh
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: a little more advanced in its in its shape. Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape, which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation.
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: The the big remote control,
Michael Flores: Right.
Ira Dayton: something like that. But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic, which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice, but you can give it any colour, uh which is the same for rubber, but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well, um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases, there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source source. Which brings Rory Ayers to the different energy sources. Um well, we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh remote controls. You really have to imagine like winding
Michael Flores: Great.
Ira Dayton: up your uh
Edward Graham: Well,
Ira Dayton: I
Edward Graham: it
Ira Dayton: d
Edward Graham: would be very new to the market, but
Ira Dayton: It would be very new, but it's a kind of a retro uh style, I
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: think. Uh Well, this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or
Michael Flores: Like the
Ira Dayton: when
Michael Flores: watch.
Ira Dayton: you're you you have to um make some kind of energy kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall, whatever you wish. It have it it has to move, that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.
Edward Graham: I think um, if if I can hook on to that, um the kinetic thing
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: is very funny.
Ira Dayton: It's very funny indeed.
Edward Graham: I mean solar is of course it's nice, but it's,
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: well, your uh your calculator has a solar panel.
Ira Dayton: Indeed.
Edward Graham: Um hand
Michael Flores: But
Edward Graham: dynamo
Michael Flores: if you're watching a movie, how many times uh you take the the remote control and and
Edward Graham: Well, maybe
Michael Flores: if
Edward Graham: m
Michael Flores: uh if you have a watch, you have the kinetic uh idea in a watch also.
Edward Graham: Yeah,
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: I know.
Michael Flores: You you walk
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Michael Flores: and
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: uh but
Ira Dayton: But
Michael Flores: uh you you're
Ira Dayton: you
Michael Flores: sitting
Ira Dayton: know
Michael Flores: on a couch.
Ira Dayton: you know from your own watch your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy. the the shaking of your body, which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake, uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: in an amount of time,
Edward Graham: And
Ira Dayton: and you
Edward Graham: wha
Ira Dayton: want t to switch uh the channel or something, well, m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: So, but maybe maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries, on the batteries and
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy, use the kinetic energy, and otherwise use the batteries.
Edward Graham: Okay, because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power.
Ira Dayton: Uh yes, it does.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: I'll come to that later.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: And we of course have the traditional uh solar power, which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity. The user interface controls, um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em, you can also push it. Um uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays, which means uh you can watch uh in a display w
Michael Flores: Mm-hmm.
Ira Dayton: which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently uh and we also have double scroll-buttons, which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting, the the thing with the the round
Michael Flores: Mm-hmm.
Ira Dayton: with the four
Michael Flores: Oh, we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.
Ira Dayton: Yes. That is possible too. Yes.
Michael Flores: But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels I had some I had some information about it too.
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Michael Flores: I don't think there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels.
Edward Graham: Well
Michael Flores: I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a
Ira Dayton: Well,
Michael Flores: button on it.
Ira Dayton: mayb uh well, m Rory Ayers neither. Maybe when you
Edward Graham: This
Ira Dayton: integrate
Edward Graham: will be the
Ira Dayton: some
Edward Graham: remote,
Ira Dayton: functions.
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: right? Um with uh maybe a channel selector. What about integrating a scroll-bar on this side?
Michael Flores: Yeah, uh that's
Ira Dayton: Uh
Michael Flores: a possibility,
Ira Dayton: it's
Michael Flores: but
Edward Graham: Because
Ira Dayton: do it's
Edward Graham: this
Ira Dayton: done
Edward Graham: is
Ira Dayton: before.
Edward Graham: how you keep it
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Michael Flores: But Flores,
Ira Dayton: It's quite quite good, yes.
Michael Flores: think about a scenario where y where you would use the scroll-button
Edward Graham: Volume?
Michael Flores: for
Ira Dayton: Well, it's it well, i what he means is there's an
Michael Flores: A volume,
Ira Dayton: button
Michael Flores: okay.
Ira Dayton: integrated in the scroll-wheel. There's no scenario where you use uh the button in the scroll-wheel. You just use the wheel.
Edward Graham: Well, what about mute?
Ira Dayton: About mute. Well,
Edward Graham: Thi
Ira Dayton: yes.
Edward Graham: i i m I guess uh th this
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: is my volume button.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: And I can either on this side or this
Ira Dayton: Well,
Edward Graham: side
Ira Dayton: okay.
Edward Graham: um
Ira Dayton: Well, that that that's one possibility, okay.
Edward Graham: And click it to muten the device.
Ira Dayton: Well, okay.
Edward Graham: And and
Ira Dayton: It's quite
Edward Graham: it
Ira Dayton: goods.
Edward Graham: makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: ones.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: So maybe um I guess that that's something you two uh
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: need to think about. Uh Ruud, wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar?
Rory Ayers: Um
Edward Graham: Uh scroll-wheel.
Michael Flores: Wheel.
Rory Ayers: Uh well, it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers.
Ira Dayton: Hmm.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: But it's done before, uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio, pocket radios. We use this.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: And Well, it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now. So
Edward Graham: Well,
Ira Dayton: maybe
Edward Graham: all
Ira Dayton: it's
Edward Graham: the Sony
Ira Dayton: not no.
Edward Graham: telephones use it, for example, for volume. but on their side th the the volume button is on the side, because
Ira Dayton: Hmm.
Edward Graham: you gri grab it like this.
Ira Dayton: Yes, but it uses two separate buttons.
Edward Graham: Yeah. I know,
Ira Dayton: It
Edward Graham: it's
Ira Dayton: doesn't
Edward Graham: not really
Ira Dayton: use
Edward Graham: a
Ira Dayton: a.
Edward Graham: scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.
Ira Dayton: Well. Uh something for uh
Edward Graham: For
Ira Dayton: Roo
Edward Graham: you too,
Ira Dayton: here.
Edward Graham: yeah.
Michael Flores: Yeah, I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said, um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control, so you have to place all the buttons in a range
Ira Dayton: Wi within
Michael Flores: of your
Ira Dayton: reach.
Michael Flores: thumb.
Ira Dayton: Yes, you have to.
Michael Flores: So in that
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Michael Flores: case uh the volume button on the side uh
Ira Dayton: yes.
Michael Flores: of the remote control would be perfect.
Ira Dayton: Yeah, yeah.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: Sebastian. Um
Ira Dayton: Okay, um we have to know, if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case, um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels, because it's all curved. There's
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation. About um the components, uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple, regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker, which is a little cryptic uh to Rory Ayers. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking
Michael Flores: Yeah
Ira Dayton: about.
Michael Flores: yeah, you can um I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word you can
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Michael Flores: programme words like
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Michael Flores: uh v uh volume up.
Ira Dayton: Okay. So
Michael Flores: Of mute, let's
Ira Dayton: so
Michael Flores: say mute.
Ira Dayton: okay.
Michael Flores: Um you programme it, you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Michael Flores: that that's really the mute function
Ira Dayton: Yeah.
Michael Flores: and uh when you speak in the the remote control, it repeats uh your saying. So that's the sample sensor.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Michael Flores: So if you say mute, it says mute again,
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Michael Flores: and then it's um well, I believe
Edward Graham: It
Michael Flores: it's
Edward Graham: performs
Michael Flores: uh
Edward Graham: the action.
Michael Flores: Yeah, and
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: then uh he he
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Michael Flores: repeats its action what which he believes it is. So you
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: say mute, he repeats mute and you makes a computer sound mute, and then goes to the mute
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Michael Flores: function.
Ira Dayton: Okay, so that's basically the the voice recognition item we were searching for. Okay. This sample sensor uh requires an regular chip, I thought. Um no op I'm not very sure. No, it's not in here. If we want to use the L_C_D_ display, we really need the advanced version, which is a bit l little bit more costly. If we want to use the scroll-wheels we need the regular version. And if we don't want to use uh any of these uh more advanced functions we can keep with the simple uh chip, which is a bit cheaper.
Edward Graham: Okay. Uh well
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: uh d did we already decide on the display? To
Ira Dayton: Um no, but I think that's something for uh Roo here
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: to
Michael Flores: Well,
Ira Dayton: think about.
Michael Flores: I don't have um I haven't looked for uh for information about it, but I don't think information uh y I don't think you need it on a display.
Edward Graham: No.
Michael Flores: Especially
Ira Dayton: I I don't
Michael Flores: when
Ira Dayton: think
Michael Flores: when
Ira Dayton: either.
Michael Flores: we have to look at a cost, I don't think uh
Ira Dayton: No. I
Michael Flores: 'cause
Ira Dayton: don't think
Michael Flores: uh
Ira Dayton: you need it.
Michael Flores: uh all any T_V_ can uh can uh view
Edward Graham: On
Michael Flores: a
Edward Graham: screen
Michael Flores: digit
Edward Graham: display.
Michael Flores: on uh on screen, yeah.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: Okay th
Ira Dayton: Okay, well my conclusion, um unfortunately the market has decided the a little uh other than I thought. I thought um the market would like uh a sort m sort of titanium casing, but they seem to like natural uh stuff. So maybe we should think about uh wood finish. Um I've chosen the more battery with solar cell uh solution for the energy. It's more reliable, it's cheaper.
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: So I
Edward Graham: Good.
Ira Dayton: don't think we should use the dynamo
Edward Graham: Kineti
Ira Dayton: thing.
Edward Graham: okay.
Ira Dayton: The
Rory Ayers: Hmm.
Ira Dayton: kinetic thing it it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced, but I'm I think you should combine it with batteries.
Edward Graham: Okay, it's
Ira Dayton: Otherwise
Edward Graham: maybe
Ira Dayton: it will
Edward Graham: a bit
Ira Dayton: not
Edward Graham: too too
Ira Dayton: too
Edward Graham: flashy,
Ira Dayton: advanced,
Edward Graham: too
Ira Dayton: uh well.
Edward Graham: yeah.
Ira Dayton: It's in in in some way it can give us an advance, because you will save on your batteries. But
Edward Graham: Yeah, but that that's the same with the solar cell.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: That's no
Ira Dayton: And
Edward Graham: different.
Ira Dayton: I think it's more robust. It's
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: more uh
Edward Graham: Okay.
Michael Flores: But what
Ira Dayton: Uh
Michael Flores: about
Ira Dayton: it's more
Michael Flores: um
Ira Dayton: functional.
Michael Flores: the markets uh wants colourfuls uh designs? So if you use titanium
Edward Graham: No no, but the uh um
Ira Dayton: The titanium
Edward Graham: that's what Sebastian
Ira Dayton: thing uh
Edward Graham: said. He said uh
Ira Dayton: we
Edward Graham: this
Ira Dayton: have to
Edward Graham: is
Ira Dayton: skip
Edward Graham: what
Ira Dayton: it.
Edward Graham: uh this is my personal preference.
Michael Flores: Okay.
Edward Graham: But but yet, I understood that the market is different.
Michael Flores: Oh, sorry. Yeah.
Edward Graham: So
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: um
Ira Dayton: I think we should skip the titanium uh stuff,
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: and we should uh use wood or something like that.
Rory Ayers: And
Michael Flores: And I
Rory Ayers: yeah,
Michael Flores: would
Edward Graham: No,
Michael Flores: think
Rory Ayers: the
Edward Graham: r rubber with colours.
Rory Ayers: yeah, the older people liked wood.
Ira Dayton: Oh okay, sorry. So it
Rory Ayers: No
Ira Dayton: it
Rory Ayers: the
Ira Dayton: needs to be rubber.
Edward Graham: Colourful
Rory Ayers: Yeah, the younger
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Rory Ayers: people
Edward Graham: and
Rory Ayers: liked soft material.
Ira Dayton: Okay,
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: spongy materials.
Rory Ayers: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: Okay, um well um these scroll-wheels, I think uh they they can be they can be handy. So
Michael Flores: And they can be implemented with a regular chip?
Ira Dayton: Yes, they can. But they really need the regular chip, you cannot use
Michael Flores: Okay,
Ira Dayton: the sa
Michael Flores: but we
Ira Dayton: simple
Michael Flores: also uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh
Ira Dayton: Well, I'm not
Michael Flores: sensor
Ira Dayton: very sure.
Michael Flores: speaker
Ira Dayton: Maybe that's an
Michael Flores: oh,
Ira Dayton: uh
Edward Graham: But but
Ira Dayton: a different
Edward Graham: do
Michael Flores: evalu
Edward Graham: we want the curved uh uh design, or
Ira Dayton: I think so, if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design,
Edward Graham: I it's
Ira Dayton: i uh
Edward Graham: too
Ira Dayton: it's too
Edward Graham: dull.
Ira Dayton: dull.
Rory Ayers: Yeah.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: I don't think c our customers will like it. And um if you uh take the double-curved, uh then you cannot um you can only use the rubber buttons
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: and you cannot use the scroll-wheels. So
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: I
Edward Graham: Okay.
Ira Dayton: think this is the best of two worlds.
Edward Graham: Okay, what about um the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: Because it it's of
Ira Dayton: It's
Edward Graham: cour
Ira Dayton: it's uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: It's very unlogical.
Michael Flores: infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all.
Ira Dayton: Well the
Edward Graham: Well
Ira Dayton: there has to be some pointing at. But
Edward Graham: It depends
Michael Flores: Well,
Edward Graham: also
Michael Flores: if you
Edward Graham: on
Michael Flores: if
Edward Graham: your
Michael Flores: you
Edward Graham: on
Michael Flores: take your
Edward Graham: your
Michael Flores: hand before it, okay, it won't work, but you can point it just
Edward Graham: Well, it depends
Michael Flores: to the other
Edward Graham: on
Michael Flores: wall.
Edward Graham: your walls actually. If you
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: have uh have um smooth walls, it it it probably you're probably right. But if you have carpets on the wall,
Ira Dayton: All
Edward Graham: which
Ira Dayton: lights get
Edward Graham: our
Ira Dayton: absorbed,
Edward Graham: natural
Ira Dayton: yeah.
Edward Graham: loving friends probably do have, then um yeah, th th it might be a bit more of a issue.
Ira Dayton: Yes, because
Edward Graham: So
Ira Dayton: the walls they they reflect the infrared light.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: So it has an it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um
Michael Flores: And the regular
Ira Dayton: with a
Michael Flores: chip.
Ira Dayton: with a regular chip. I think uh it gives us the advantage
Michael Flores: And and
Ira Dayton: of
Michael Flores: the scroll uh scroll-wheels.
Ira Dayton: Yes,
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: yes.
Edward Graham: I
Ira Dayton: And
Edward Graham: like the
Ira Dayton: uh
Edward Graham: scroll
Ira Dayton: skip
Edward Graham: wheels uh idea.
Ira Dayton: and skip the L_C_D_ part.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: I don't think it it's any uh value added
Michael Flores: No.
Ira Dayton: thing. So
Michael Flores: Think so too.
Edward Graham: Well, it looks
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: uh yeah, well um according to Ruud, the the the market likes um
Ira Dayton: Technology.
Edward Graham: new flashy technology, and
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: I mean L_C_D_
Ira Dayton: It's
Edward Graham: is
Ira Dayton: not very flashy and
Edward Graham: well,
Ira Dayton: new.
Edward Graham: ok I know, but it's m it's less um s
Rory Ayers: Standard?
Edward Graham: standard than than Well, we are not very w we do not know uh much about the the f the financial part. That's the problem.
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: Because if we do have enough um space in in our finance,
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: I would say do integrate it, because it it adds a little ext extra
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: high-tech feeling to it.
Michael Flores: But we already have the scroll-wheels, the sp uh the speaker uh the speak recognition,
Edward Graham: Mm yeah.
Michael Flores: the rubber,
Ira Dayton: Uh I think our customers
Michael Flores: the fancy
Ira Dayton: will go
Michael Flores: colours.
Ira Dayton: insane.
Edward Graham: Okay, okay.
Ira Dayton: It's it's too much.
Edward Graham: Yeah. Okay, I I agree. I think i Ruud, do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or
Rory Ayers: Nah, um n no, I don't think so. M
Edward Graham: No? Sebast uh nee, Roo? Roo, do you
Michael Flores: Um
Edward Graham: have any other
Michael Flores: no. Nothing more.
Edward Graham: Nothing more. Um
Ira Dayton: Okay. Uh the n the next
Edward Graham: Sebas
Ira Dayton: phase will be um the um not the what is the next phase f Flores?
Edward Graham: Well, we we need to describe uh decisions now.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: So um
Ira Dayton: So i
Edward Graham: on the energy,
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: well, we decided. Chip.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: The case uh rubber with uh c one
Ira Dayton: Okay,
Edward Graham: one
Ira Dayton: okay.
Edward Graham: uh one curve. User interface um
Michael Flores: Uh but uh can't scroll-wheels uh work with one uh one-curved case?
Ira Dayton: Yes,
Michael Flores: Yeah,
Ira Dayton: they can
Michael Flores: okay.
Ira Dayton: work.
Michael Flores: Sorry,
Ira Dayton: They
Michael Flores: yeah.
Ira Dayton: cannot work with double-curved.
Michael Flores: Oh, sorry.
Ira Dayton: That's that's
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: problem. I'll check it for you.
Edward Graham: Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before, the colours, grey and yellow.
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: Keep it in mind. And um the buttons, well we talked about it now. The next phase, um Sebastian, um
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: is um the design of the look and feel.
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: The user interface design. And for you, the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that. Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: And I'm going uh to plan my holidays.
Ira Dayton: Okay. So you will
Michael Flores: The project
Ira Dayton: be on the Bahamas.
Michael Flores: drawing is
Ira Dayton: Uh
Michael Flores: for the next
Edward Graham: Yeah, it's it's uh when we come back in
Michael Flores: Yeah,
Edward Graham: thirty minutes,
Michael Flores: right.
Edward Graham: uh you will have a uh prototype ready.
Ira Dayton: Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made?
Edward Graham: Yeah? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.
Ira Dayton: I'll do.
Edward Graham: Great. Um Uh you you need to help Rory Ayers. Um
Ira Dayton: Okay. W start with the casing.
Edward Graham: The casing is curved,
Michael Flores: Single-curved.
Ira Dayton: Okay,
Edward Graham: single-curved.
Ira Dayton: single-curved case. Okay. What about the energy source?
Edward Graham: Traditional batteries uh and solar.
Michael Flores: But can there be uh wor can they work together? Or do we have to choose between them? 'Cause if we
Edward Graham: No,
Michael Flores: have to
Edward Graham: they
Michael Flores: choose
Edward Graham: can be complementary.
Ira Dayton: I
Edward Graham: Uh
Michael Flores: yeah?
Ira Dayton: I
Edward Graham: al
Ira Dayton: think they can.
Edward Graham: al
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: I uh
Michael Flores: Okay.
Ira Dayton: Well, uh
Michael Flores: What
Edward Graham: Every
Michael Flores: if not?
Edward Graham: device
Ira Dayton: It it should be. There should be really no problem. They
Michael Flores: Okay.
Ira Dayton: can be supplementary. That's no problem.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: Okay, um
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: th
Ira Dayton: uh uh just uh the energy source is um
Edward Graham: Battery
Ira Dayton: the batteries and
Edward Graham: and
Ira Dayton: the
Edward Graham: solar,
Ira Dayton: solar. Okay.
Edward Graham: yeah.
Ira Dayton: What about uh the finishing of the case? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber?
Edward Graham: Yeah,
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: with colourful rubber. Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers, but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish.
Ira Dayton: Okay, and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red. uh black and yellow.
Edward Graham: Uh grey and yellow
Michael Flores: Grey and
Edward Graham: or
Michael Flores: yellow.
Edward Graham: black and
Ira Dayton: Grey
Edward Graham: yellow.
Ira Dayton: yellow,
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: okay.
Michael Flores: Yellow case and grey buttons, I think.
Edward Graham: Yeah, although
Rory Ayers: Hmm.
Edward Graham: I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course, but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set
Ira Dayton: Oh,
Edward Graham: of colours.
Ira Dayton: I think it's uh it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think?
Edward Graham: Well, I was
Michael Flores: I believe
Edward Graham: more thinking
Michael Flores: the
Edward Graham: about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.
Michael Flores: But you have already um you must have a red uh on and off button. And um
Edward Graham: Well, it it doesn't
Michael Flores: Well
Edward Graham: have to be red.
Michael Flores: well
Edward Graham: Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours, it should be a full
Ira Dayton: Hmm.
Edward Graham: colour cover with such an image or or I mean
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group, I guess.
Rory Ayers: Or black and yellow.
Edward Graham: Black and yellow, yeah.
Ira Dayton: Okay, but uh I'm afraid it's not possible to print a picture on uh the device. Because uh I agree it would be nice to have have something like that on the device itself. But
Michael Flores: Well, there is. Just a week ago, a keyboard manufacturer
Ira Dayton: Oh, I've
Michael Flores: would
Ira Dayton: read.
Michael Flores: print,
Rory Ayers: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Michael Flores: with and uh
Ira Dayton: Yes, but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow
Michael Flores: No.
Ira Dayton: in its techniques.
Edward Graham: Okay,
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: so we have to deal with wh what's possible here.
Ira Dayton: So I'm afraid it's not possible.
Edward Graham: Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um Um
Michael Flores: A scroll-wheel.
Edward Graham: The scroll-heel. Yes, the voice recognition we
Michael Flores: Voice
Edward Graham: already
Michael Flores: recognition,
Edward Graham: decided.
Michael Flores: of course.
Ira Dayton: Okay, so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons, I guess.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: And th the they should be spongy also, because they're they're rubber too.
Edward Graham: Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.
Michael Flores: What what did you say?
Ira Dayton: Well uh you can use well, when you use the buttons, they'll they'll be made of rubber too. So
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: it has th the spongy uh feel also.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: So I I think that's okay.
Michael Flores: Yeah, or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.
Edward Graham: I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button, and what do they want spongy uh uh devices,
Michael Flores: Yeah, b
Edward Graham: or or i
Michael Flores: But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually. What I said in the in the first uh discussion, uh the digit six on the button, it will disappear when it's from rubber.
Edward Graham: Uh is that uh does our our
Michael Flores: It
Edward Graham: supplier
Michael Flores: is not uh
Edward Graham: say
Michael Flores: something
Edward Graham: so?
Michael Flores: uh it's no information I read about it or so, but
Rory Ayers: Uh
Michael Flores: it's
Rory Ayers: didn't
Michael Flores: just from
Rory Ayers: did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them
Michael Flores: No,
Rory Ayers: to the
Michael Flores: but
Rory Ayers: speech
Michael Flores: but
Rory Ayers: recognition?
Michael Flores: uh it
Rory Ayers: 'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.
Edward Graham: Yeah. You could place a um
Rory Ayers: There
Edward Graham: uh
Rory Ayers: the
Edward Graham: this
Rory Ayers: icons.
Edward Graham: this would be the button. The scroll-wheel, I mean.
Michael Flores: Yeah,
Edward Graham: And
Michael Flores: b
Edward Graham: you could
Michael Flores: yeah.
Edward Graham: place the indica
Ira Dayton: Yes.
Edward Graham: th th the signals the
Rory Ayers: So you don't
Ira Dayton: That's okay.
Michael Flores: Yeah,
Rory Ayers: touch
Michael Flores: that's possible,
Rory Ayers: the icons that
Michael Flores: but
Rory Ayers: much.
Michael Flores: then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then, if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control, you just rub on the cover, so you rub on the painting.
Edward Graham: No no, there's no painting, only uh
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: yellow or But it's into
Michael Flores: Yeah, but
Edward Graham: the
Michael Flores: but
Edward Graham: rubber.
Michael Flores: the the plus or the minus.
Ira Dayton: Yes, the
Michael Flores: You
Ira Dayton: signs.
Michael Flores: have to draw
Edward Graham: Yeah, but
Michael Flores: the
Edward Graham: this is on the pla yeah,
Michael Flores: Yeah,
Edward Graham: I
Michael Flores: it's
Edward Graham: know.
Michael Flores: on the cover.
Edward Graham: Um
Michael Flores: So if you uh
Edward Graham: I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know
Michael Flores: You
Edward Graham: what
Michael Flores: just
Edward Graham: you mean.
Michael Flores: move the problem.
Edward Graham: What about um making this rubber and making this plastic?
Ira Dayton: Uh I see what you mean. Well, maybe that's possible, because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.
Edward Graham: Yeah. Well actually, we should have it the other way around, I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean, this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.
Ira Dayton: Yeah.
Edward Graham: But the front, on which the the buttons are doesn't
Ira Dayton: Mm-hmm.
Edward Graham: have to be rubber. I
Ira Dayton: Well,
Edward Graham: mean
Ira Dayton: I'm I'm not so sure, I think
Michael Flores: Y
Ira Dayton: it
Michael Flores: uh can
Ira Dayton: c should
Michael Flores: you separate
Ira Dayton: be
Michael Flores: these uh these
Ira Dayton: Well, I'm not sure, I have to ask with manufacturing, but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want, because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel, and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel, you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber.
Edward Graham: I know, but do you touch this or do you touch this? I
Ira Dayton: I
Edward Graham: mean,
Ira Dayton: think
Edward Graham: I
Ira Dayton: both.
Edward Graham: I never touch between the buttons.
Michael Flores: I do.
Ira Dayton: I do.
Michael Flores: Or the s uh the sideways.
Ira Dayton: I think
Michael Flores: Or the
Edward Graham: Yeah, the side,
Michael Flores: the
Edward Graham: exactly,
Michael Flores: back. Or
Edward Graham: the
Michael Flores: the
Edward Graham: sideways.
Michael Flores: back.
Edward Graham: The side, but
Michael Flores: I
Edward Graham: do you
Michael Flores: think
Edward Graham: touch between the the these buttons?
Michael Flores: Yes, especially when there are l a few buttons on it, you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or
Edward Graham: Okay.
Michael Flores: i
Edward Graham: Well,
Michael Flores: you
Edward Graham: we
Michael Flores: play
Edward Graham: do
Michael Flores: with
Edward Graham: not
Michael Flores: it.
Edward Graham: have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out.
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Edward Graham: I'm going to leave the decision to you, um because you have to make its prototype, and um yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers, the possibilities and uh
Michael Flores: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: so I'm going to leave it the decision with you. Um Sebastian, did you write enough decisions down?
Ira Dayton: Um not quite. Um what about uh the chips? We use the regular chip?
Michael Flores: Regular.
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: And
Michael Flores: Use with.
Ira Dayton: Well no, I think that's about it. Yes.
Edward Graham: Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really
Ira Dayton: The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_.
Edward Graham: Okay,
Ira Dayton: That's
Edward Graham: well.
Ira Dayton: all. And we've decided not to use L_C_D_.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Ira Dayton: So
Edward Graham: Okay. Um okay, then I think we are uh quite finished. Um I'll see you guys in thirty minutes and um
Michael Flores: For the finishing touch.
Edward Graham: Yeah? Yeah,
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Edward Graham: um if you write wrote anything down, uh could you put it on the shared folder?
Ira Dayton: Okay.
Michael Flores: Uh yeah.
Edward Graham: Yeah.
Michael Flores: But um Sebastian has everything.
Edward Graham: I know, but well
Ira Dayton: I'll put it online.
Edward Graham: Great.
Edward Graham: Right. | For the conceptual design, Rory Ayers talked about the public's preference for looks over technological innovation; however, they both seem to be more important than ease of use. The current fashion among younger people favours bright colours and fruit and vegetable themes and spongy materials: pertinent exchangeable fronts can express such trends on the remote, and could also provide themes for other target groups. They could also add some rubber to provide easy grip of the device. Cases can be flat, single- or double-curved. They can be made of plastic, rubber, wood or titanium. Hand or kinetic dynamos, batteries, and solar cells can be used as energy sources. Possible interfaces are push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCDs. A way to make this device different would be to use a scroll-wheel on the side with integrated button for volume control and mute. Speech recognition can be implemented by adding a sample sensor and speaker on the remote. The final decisions also included combined battery with solar cells. The team will design a single-curved device with a scroll wheel and speech recognition, in black and yellow, the company colours. | 1 | amisum | test |
Jason Torsiello: Wait for the marketing director actually, so. Anyways. Uh.
Jason Torsiello: See, shall we wait? I'm not sure if he's late or delayed or whatever, so I'm gonna start soon, we have now don't have much time anyway.
Robert Gillam: Oh, there he
Jesse Castillo: Yes.
Adrian Boender: Okay,
Robert Gillam: is.
Jason Torsiello: There
Adrian Boender: we
Jesse Castillo: Sorry,
Jason Torsiello: you are, okay.
Jesse Castillo: a little bit of pl
Jason Torsiello: Uh no
Jesse Castillo: little
Jason Torsiello: problem. We're
Jesse Castillo: with
Jason Torsiello: about
Jesse Castillo: computer.
Jason Torsiello: to start, so have a seat. Okay, welcome again. Today, functional design phase. I'll take you over the minutes of last last meeting. Okay, that was just to
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: get to know each other have, a little thoughts on what your vision is and on this project, so I put the minutes on the I made on the on the p the the project share, so if you wanna review them, they're there. I will do so after every meeting, so if you have some information you wanna take back you can find it there. Anyways, um today three presentations, from every one of you. Um after that I got some new project requirements from project board, so we're gonna go af go after over this later. But I wanna start with uh stuff you did first, so we can see what everybody came up with. And after that we can have the new requirements and share some thoughts, so. Who would like wanna go first?
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, sure, no problem.
Robert Gillam: Go ahead.
Jason Torsiello: Take it.
Jesse Castillo: Um there was a little problem with my computer so not uh the whole uh presentation uh
Jason Torsiello: Anyway, let's see what you have.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah. Um
Jesse Castillo: Okay, and
Jason Torsiello: Uh it's still a bit open.
Jesse Castillo: I want to open the my s oh no.
Jason Torsiello: You should close it on your own notebook, I guess. Yeah.
Jesse Castillo: Oh no,
Jason Torsiello: So
Jesse Castillo: that's
Jason Torsiello: there? Okay.
Jesse Castillo: okay. Uh slide show. Yes. The functional requirements, it's uh uh very important for uh the user, he he wants to yeah. The the method used not m a slide because it went wrong, but the method we use uh, um we tested it w uh with uh a hundred uh men, and we asked them to w uh what the remote uh f feel uh like and uh what what's uh important.
Jason Torsiello: If I
Jesse Castillo: Uh
Jason Torsiello: can cut in, is it people or men?
Jesse Castillo: People, sorry.
Jason Torsiello: Is it people, okay.
Jesse Castillo: Both
Jason Torsiello: 'Cause I
Jesse Castillo: women
Jason Torsiello: thought it was
Jesse Castillo: and
Jason Torsiello: only
Jesse Castillo: men,
Jason Torsiello: men, so
Jesse Castillo: yeah. Okay.
Jason Torsiello: 'Kay.
Jesse Castillo: Uh the findings um uh seventy five percent of the users find most remote controls ugly. Um
Robert Gillam: That's shocking
Jason Torsiello: So we
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: have
Robert Gillam: uh.
Jason Torsiello: to s we have to do something
Jesse Castillo: and
Jason Torsiello: about that.
Jesse Castillo: yeah, most th th they want to spend money for a better system, for better remote control, so we can do uh a l a little uh nice things with it, and um they use yeah, they use zap a lot, um uh fifty percent say they only So that's the most important things.
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: Um oh yeah, not all of it is it on mine on my PowerPoint presentation,
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: but
Jason Torsiello: just talk
Jesse Castillo: um
Jason Torsiello: ahead.
Jesse Castillo: uh the relevant buttons are the power, the channel selection and the volume selection. It's
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Jesse Castillo: uh the most basic buttons that a user wants uh to use. Uh less important is tel teletext,
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Jesse Castillo: uh um they use it, but it's not uh very uh important uh on the scale of zero to ten they six and a half uh
Jason Torsiello: Okay, that's okay.
Jesse Castillo: and but not important is the channel selection, the the hmm?
Jason Torsiello: That's a little weird.
Jesse Castillo: Oh, the
Robert Gillam: Which channel
Jesse Castillo: the
Robert Gillam: selection?
Jesse Castillo: no no no no no, that's very important, but uh w and not important in the audio settings, display settings and
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: uh
Jason Torsiello: we can we
Robert Gillam: Oh,
Jason Torsiello: can
Robert Gillam: okay.
Jason Torsiello: hide those under
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: a menu or something, okay.
Jesse Castillo: Um new preferences preferences. Uh um um beep to find your control, was that
Jason Torsiello: That's
Jesse Castillo: was
Jason Torsiello: like
Jesse Castillo: in
Jason Torsiello: a
Jesse Castillo: the
Jason Torsiello: button
Jesse Castillo: test,
Jason Torsiello: on your T_V_?
Jesse Castillo: the the most people uh f find it uh irritating uh when they cannot find a rem
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jesse Castillo: their remote
Jason Torsiello: Remote,
Jesse Castillo: control,
Jason Torsiello: okay.
Jesse Castillo: so uh I think it's a bee beep to sound it and uh you can find it. And another thing uh they want was uh speech recognition um so they can say uh what they want to let's go to channel one and uh
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: that's uh kind of things. And they want maybe an uh L_C_D_ screen um to to look it um wh what's on every channel uh and uh what
Jason Torsiello: We wanna
Jesse Castillo: do
Jason Torsiello: have
Jesse Castillo: I want
Jason Torsiello: a little preview
Jesse Castillo: with it?
Jason Torsiello: on the remote control.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Preview what's on the channel. Okay.
Robert Gillam: Is that manageable? 'Cause it sounds pretty expensive too.
Jason Torsiello: That sounds
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: too It's possible, but uh I think it's expensive, but do continue.
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah. Um Uh my personal preferences is uh a button for my favourite channel, so I can uh I dunno, so I can zap to my uh f uh quick uh to my favourite channel wh what I uh so, the remote mu must see or um must um see wha what mine preferences are for which
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: channel,
Jason Torsiello: you don't
Jesse Castillo: so
Jason Torsiello: set it yourself,
Jesse Castillo: I can
Jason Torsiello: it just
Jesse Castillo: zap t
Jason Torsiello: remembers
Jesse Castillo: to
Jason Torsiello: the channel that you are on most, for example.
Jesse Castillo: What?
Jason Torsiello: You want the you want it to be programmed, for example
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: y programmed f or
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: you want it to recognise your favourite channel?
Jesse Castillo: Recognise
Jason Torsiello: Let's see, you you spend twenty minutes each day on that channel,
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: so it recognises your favourite channel.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, that's uh what my personal preference
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: like.
Jason Torsiello: so it's it it does it recognise itself, you don't have to set
Jesse Castillo: No,
Jason Torsiello: it Okay.
Jesse Castillo: itself. Maybe it's easier to to sell it, but
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: I don't know it's manageable, but we
Jason Torsiello: I see.
Jesse Castillo: will uh we will see. Yeah, it's a little bit uh it's the end of it. It's
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: a little bit
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Jesse Castillo: uh I lost it, the computer uh crashed, so.
Jason Torsiello: No problem, it's it's okay, that's
Robert Gillam: Shall I go?
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, go
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: ahead.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: So, some technical
Jesse Castillo: Darn
Robert Gillam: functions.
Jesse Castillo: computer.
Robert Gillam: Basically I have some issues which you discussed earlier.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: Uh let's just start with the method. It sounds really easy, what does the user do, what does the th remote control do, but there are quite some issues. So the things I'm going to concentrate on are the user aspect, because the technical aspect, that's pretty much covered. We can do that. What goes wrong at the user. Gets the remote control. Where is the remote control? We've all had it once, I want
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: to watch some television, where's the remote control? That was one of your ideas which you posted
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: in the network folder,
Jason Torsiello: That seems
Robert Gillam: a
Jason Torsiello: very
Robert Gillam: really
Jason Torsiello: good.
Robert Gillam: good idea. Uh these are just the issues. I come to some uh personal experience, findings, possible solutions later. Searches for the button. There are many buttons on a remote control which are not clear. Uh so either we lose those or we try to make it a little bit more clear.
Jesse Castillo: Mm uh.
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Robert Gillam: Uh also symbols tend to fade after a while. There's nothing more annoying than faded symbols, because you don't know which channel is this button, so possibly we could find
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Robert Gillam: uh
Jason Torsiello: so have it more make it more
Robert Gillam: something
Jason Torsiello: durable
Robert Gillam: for that,
Jason Torsiello: actually.
Robert Gillam: yes.
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Robert Gillam: Uh covered that. Oh yes, user presses the button. Um usually when you have a lot of buttons, buttons are small. So you press more once remote control goes
Jason Torsiello: Okay, so
Robert Gillam: kablouey
Jason Torsiello: the buttons should
Robert Gillam: or something
Jason Torsiello: be
Robert Gillam: like that, so we have to pay attention not to put too mun too many buttons on
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Robert Gillam: uh the remote control.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: And possibly also the size, so
Jason Torsiello: Wow.
Robert Gillam: more important buttons,
Jason Torsiello: The s Yeah.
Robert Gillam: bigger
Jason Torsiello: Make it
Robert Gillam: si
Jason Torsiello: make them bigger. Even
Robert Gillam: So
Jason Torsiello: more
Robert Gillam: this
Jason Torsiello: durable
Robert Gillam: is basically
Jason Torsiello: uh.
Robert Gillam: what I h had in mind in the fade-proof symbols, locator, a sound, uh so clear we should stick to existing symbols, but maybe we could do a little uh investigation to see whether some symbols are uh need to be replaced by others.
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Robert Gillam: Uh This I pretty much covered. So what we want to go to is not this one, but more
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, it's true.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: less buttons, easy, some bigger buttons. So that's basically uh
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: what
Jason Torsiello: that's
Robert Gillam: I had
Jason Torsiello: clear.
Robert Gillam: in mind. This is not the final design, this
Jason Torsiello: No,
Robert Gillam: is just
Jason Torsiello: of course
Robert Gillam: a general
Jason Torsiello: uh
Robert Gillam: idea of
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: how I'd like to see uh
Jason Torsiello: I must
Robert Gillam: basically
Jason Torsiello: say that
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: it
Robert Gillam: general idea.
Jason Torsiello: Hmm.
Robert Gillam: So that was it.
Jason Torsiello: That was it. Okay, that was good. So we agree on the the part that we need to get something on the on the remote to find it somewhere
Robert Gillam: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: and
Robert Gillam: I think
Jason Torsiello: increase
Robert Gillam: it's a
Jason Torsiello: it
Robert Gillam: really good idea.
Jason Torsiello: the durability of of the thing, so
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: The other aspects, we'll just see how what you came up with and what's possible for that budget.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Adrian Boender: Okay, that's fine Um. Okay, now work a little with Jesse Castillo. Okay. Well, let's start it as it is. Okay, uh the method. There are a few questions that need to be answered, uh you already uh talked about it a little bit. Which buttons are wanted, uh is our remote control universal or should it be programmable. Uh if it should be programmeab grammeale then we need um something like a mode that you can switch it. buttons have to send out a different signal then they would normally do.
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Adrian Boender: And uh how big is the remote control uh going to be? I'll tell you why that's important to Jesse Castillo. Um there are a lot of technical parts in the remote control, so uh uh that's why I also would like to say uh go a little bit easy on the designs, uh I heard ab uh you talking about beeps and about uh video screens, but uh the material inside and the technical aspects are quite complex already.
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Adrian Boender: So keep in mind that everything that you keep uh think of, it has to b to be built. So it's
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: that's
Jason Torsiello: Of course,
Adrian Boender: not as easy as
Jason Torsiello: hmm.
Adrian Boender: it s
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Adrian Boender: might look like. Uh material study, I'm working on that um for the the costs. I have to check out how far I can go with that. Normally, a circuit board is made of fibreglass uh and the wires are made of copper. Uh that is how it is done and all the remote controls work that way, I think we can just go on with that. Um then I've read more integration of materials means less cost for the production. The more we can make uh at once uh in one piece, uh that is cheaper.
Jason Torsiello: You mean integrate them all into the circuit board.
Adrian Boender: Exactly,
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Adrian Boender: so if we make a circuit board with the the connections already on it, then that's cheaper.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: So we
Jason Torsiello: okay.
Adrian Boender: have to
Jason Torsiello: So you have
Adrian Boender: make something that's not too difficult in design again. This is what look like uh looks like if you press one button, so this is not the entire thing. You have the the power coming in, then you have like a switch. The switch uh uh uh if you p press it then some electrical charge goes into the processor, that thinks over a Morse code, that's how you should see it. The Morse code goes to the amplifier, then uh the signal is sent to two uh light bulbs. You have infrared and an interv um uh how to say it? Uh a light in indication, light that you know
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Adrian Boender: that it's functioning. Uh here again, that's my story about the different modes, if you do want to make remote uh universal, then the processor has to uh make up a different Morse code when some button is pressed. That makes it much more complex, so we really need to have a look, do we want that or not. Uh I don't have any personal p uh preferences uh so far, except for uh
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Adrian Boender: the materials to be used uh light, that they are light.
Jason Torsiello: Okay. That was it?
Adrian Boender: That was
Jason Torsiello: I'll get
Adrian Boender: it.
Jason Torsiello: back to my thing then. Uh
Jason Torsiello: Okay, back this up to the screen. So I got some new information on the project specifications are changing a little. Like you said uh teletext is not not very popular anymore because the uh the internet, nowadays people don't use the teletext anymore or hardly, so it can either Well, I don't think we should remove the button, because there are always people who are using it.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: But I don't think it should be very it should be one of the big buttons for example. Just put it somewhere or under second option or whatever. It's not important anymore. Um we're targeting young people now, because our um This is a new product and with this new product we want to appeal to
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: younger people, which are um the younger
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: people were defined under forty.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: I so I think it's
Jesse Castillo: B
Jason Torsiello: that's also good with the fashion and everything, so
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: yeah.
Jesse Castillo: and they want to pay for it and uh
Jason Torsiello: They want to pay for it, people are willing to spend money actually to buy a um remote that they like.
Jesse Castillo: With
Jason Torsiello: If they like
Jesse Castillo: more
Jason Torsiello: the way it looks, the way it functions, so they're actually gonna spend uh spend money on it.
Jesse Castillo: Where with more technical specifications
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Jesse Castillo: in the
Jason Torsiello: see how far we can go with it anyway, so
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: And one thing that should be important is that the corporate l colour and slogan are recognisable, and yellow, but I'm not sure if we I think we should keep the the logo in mind, because with colours you can uh have a lot of uh fashionable colours and everything on it, which suits everybody's taste. So With that concept I started thinking, so why not just steal Nokia's idea and just make changeable
Robert Gillam: Oh.
Jason Torsiello: covers for your I mean those cost hardly anything I think,
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: and people could even spend extra money on buying a cover and so have an entire new remote control that they like to see. Or we can sh for example we can make a different a basic design. And sell the covers separately, for example. That's just a little marketing idea that could be applied, so you can p it appeals to really everyone. So you don't have to I think you don't have to make entire remote controls. We make a basic one and manufacture this cover separately.
Adrian Boender: Mm-hmm.
Jason Torsiello: So that was that was my idea on what we could do to appeal this product to everyone.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: So just I'm not sure if you came up with anything in the meantime, after making a presentation.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Would you like to share?
Adrian Boender: No, I think this is a good idea.
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Adrian Boender: But
Jesse Castillo: But
Robert Gillam: Is
Jesse Castillo: oh?
Robert Gillam: it manageable?
Adrian Boender: Go ahead.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: Is it easy?
Jesse Castillo: with with an L_C_D_ screen you can
Jason Torsiello: Oh yeah. I think
Adrian Boender: Y
Jason Torsiello: we should lose the L_C_D_ screen, like you
Adrian Boender: Yes,
Jason Torsiello: said.
Jesse Castillo: Why?
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: think
Adrian Boender: think so too.
Jesse Castillo: Nokia
Jason Torsiello: for example it's
Jesse Castillo: w
Jason Torsiello: it's huge I think the L_C_D_ is huge, it consumes batteries like hell.
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: I think it takes up a lot of
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: a lot of power.
Robert Gillam: And it costs too much
Jason Torsiello: It costs
Robert Gillam: to fabricate,
Jason Torsiello: a lot,
Robert Gillam: so
Jason Torsiello: I think.
Adrian Boender: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: Okay.
Adrian Boender: uh
Robert Gillam: we're
Jason Torsiello: What
Robert Gillam: on a
Jason Torsiello: we
Robert Gillam: tight
Jason Torsiello: could do,
Robert Gillam: budget here.
Jason Torsiello: what could be possible, is maybe not an L_C_D_ screen but with a preview, but y I'm not sure if it's even possible.
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: For example, a little T_V_ guide.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Like you have a little just just a text only, not
Adrian Boender: Mm-hmm.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: colour, just a little text thing so you can use your remote as a T_V_ guide. I'm not sure
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: it's even
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: possible, but
Adrian Boender: have to check that
Jason Torsiello: maybe
Adrian Boender: out, I'm
Jason Torsiello: okay,
Adrian Boender: not sure.
Jason Torsiello: make it Yeah, find a little compromise in that, but
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: What did I write down? I think the p yeah, the beep is a very simple thing to imple implement, just
Adrian Boender: That must
Jason Torsiello: make
Adrian Boender: be
Jason Torsiello: a
Adrian Boender: possible.
Jason Torsiello: button on your T_V_ and just hit the button, it beeps somewhere. I
Adrian Boender: Ja.
Jason Torsiello: think it's easy to implement, we should
Adrian Boender: I'm
Jason Torsiello: go for
Adrian Boender: sorry,
Jason Torsiello: that.
Adrian Boender: whe
Robert Gillam: And
Jason Torsiello: Uh speech
Robert Gillam: it's
Adrian Boender: where do
Jason Torsiello: recognition.
Adrian Boender: you wanna hit the T_ you wanna we want a button on the television.
Jason Torsiello: I thin Yeah, I mean where
Adrian Boender: In
Jason Torsiello: else should you
Adrian Boender: th
Jason Torsiello: put it?
Adrian Boender: okay, but that rules out a universal remote control. Because that's
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: not possible
Jason Torsiello: but
Adrian Boender: uh.
Jason Torsiello: how are you gonna use that if your I mean if your remote control is
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: lost, how
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: are you gonna press where are you gonna press the button?
Adrian Boender: Exactly.
Robert Gillam: Maybe just a slap-on sticker with a button which sends out a small
Jason Torsiello: A slap-on
Robert Gillam: signal.
Jason Torsiello: sticker. Oh, you mean as like a separate thing you can attach
Jesse Castillo: Mm uh.
Jason Torsiello: to your T_V_.
Robert Gillam: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, that could
Robert Gillam: exactly.
Jason Torsiello: be possible. A little little box you can attach
Adrian Boender: Okay,
Jason Torsiello: to your T_V_ is fine
Adrian Boender: then
Jason Torsiello: then, okay.
Adrian Boender: uh I'd I'd like to know now if we want the uh universal remote control or not, because that's uh
Jason Torsiello: I think it's
Adrian Boender: determines
Jason Torsiello: universal.
Adrian Boender: everything I'm gonna do.
Jason Torsiello: I think we should
Adrian Boender: If not
Jason Torsiello: go for universal, because
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: apparently we're a separate company making separate c remote controls to sell to a lot of diverse
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: people. I think universal remote control
Jesse Castillo: Um
Jason Torsiello: should be possible.
Adrian Boender: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: Everyone
Adrian Boender: then I go for that.
Jesse Castillo: uh wants to buy it, so
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, I think
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jesse Castillo: we
Jason Torsiello: we're targeting
Jesse Castillo: w
Jason Torsiello: everyone,
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: so
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: remote
Adrian Boender: No, it's fine with Jesse Castillo, but then I know what to look
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Adrian Boender: for.
Jason Torsiello: universal is good. Speech recognition, I think it's very hard, because we're selling across multiple countries. So I think
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: implementing speech recognition is such a small um
Jesse Castillo: Or one.
Jason Torsiello: apparatus, it's very hard to do.
Jesse Castillo: Or
Robert Gillam: And it's
Jesse Castillo: when you say one two uh i it uh it's
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: enough,
Jason Torsiello: but I
Jesse Castillo: right?
Jason Torsiello: don't see
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: Arabian people speaking
Jesse Castillo: Oh
Jason Torsiello: one,
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: two uh whatever.
Robert Gillam: Besides that, the technology isn't really super yet, so that
Jason Torsiello: It's
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: is a problem in
Jason Torsiello: It's
Robert Gillam: implementing
Jason Torsiello: not a mature technology,
Robert Gillam: this.
Jesse Castillo: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: I think it takes a lot of memory and everything in in a remote control,
Robert Gillam: It's a good
Jason Torsiello: so
Robert Gillam: idea, but it's just not I don't think the market's ripe for that yet.
Jason Torsiello: I don't think it should be implemented in a remote control yet uh.
Adrian Boender: Uh-huh.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: What else do we have? Um well you should you should look into the in into the materials that are real durable.
Adrian Boender: Mm-hmm.
Jason Torsiello: So the the the symbols won't fade, maybe a little
Adrian Boender: Exactly.
Jason Torsiello: harder plastic
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: or especially
Adrian Boender: already noted
Jason Torsiello: li
Adrian Boender: that.
Jason Torsiello: we don't maybe we don't have have to do all the buttons, but especially the ones that are um the popular buttons,
Adrian Boender: Mm,
Jason Torsiello: so
Adrian Boender: okay.
Jason Torsiello: those always fade first.
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: Mm the thing is the most important things that we have now.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Let's see.
Adrian Boender: If we uh make a remote control with changeable covers, then we can also make uh a cover for every language area. That's
Jason Torsiello: For
Adrian Boender: fo
Jason Torsiello: example?
Adrian Boender: is uh especially for older people, that they can read it read
Jason Torsiello: Well,
Adrian Boender: it in their
Jason Torsiello: we're
Adrian Boender: own
Jason Torsiello: not
Adrian Boender: language.
Jason Torsiello: we're not
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: targeting older people, we should remember that. Everything
Adrian Boender: That's
Jason Torsiello: we target is under
Adrian Boender: okay,
Jason Torsiello: forty, so.
Adrian Boender: okay.
Jason Torsiello: You assume that that they read correctly and
Adrian Boender: Huh.
Jason Torsiello: I think they're The most
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: important
Jesse Castillo: b
Jason Torsiello: thing about young people is that they're really sensitive to to trends that are passing through the world,
Adrian Boender: Uh
Jason Torsiello: so
Adrian Boender: okay.
Robert Gillam: But should the exchangeable covers include the buttons themselves or just
Jason Torsiello: No, of
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: course. No, I think it's just something you you put over them, because
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah we c Yeah, you ca
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: Well,
Jesse Castillo: every
Robert Gillam: C
Jason Torsiello: tha that's
Robert Gillam: that's
Jason Torsiello: not
Robert Gillam: a
Jason Torsiello: a that's
Robert Gillam: problem
Jason Torsiello: not a
Robert Gillam: with
Jason Torsiello: bad
Robert Gillam: the with
Jason Torsiello: that's
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: not
Robert Gillam: text
Jason Torsiello: even
Robert Gillam: then.
Jason Torsiello: it's not even a bad idea.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: I mean, for example, if you're if you're into the durability issue you could For example, if your buttons are faded, after
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: I mean if you make a durable remote, they are faded, you can just buy a new cover. Uh
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: I'm not sure it's it's hard to make.
Adrian Boender: Uh
Jason Torsiello: So it's
Adrian Boender: but
Jason Torsiello: a good
Adrian Boender: I know
Jason Torsiello: and a
Adrian Boender: that
Jason Torsiello: bad idea.
Adrian Boender: the buttons are like a Nokia telephone on uh one sleeve, so you
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Adrian Boender: don't have to change your whole cover. Uh we can make something that you can only remove the sleeve. Know
Jesse Castillo: Oh.
Adrian Boender: what
Robert Gillam: Oh
Adrian Boender: I mean?
Robert Gillam: yeah, I know what you
Adrian Boender: It
Robert Gillam: mean.
Adrian Boender: works the same as a Nokia telephone, it's it's in my
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, I
Adrian Boender: uh
Jason Torsiello: know, it's just
Adrian Boender: 'kay.
Jason Torsiello: just
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: a one one piece of rubber for example,
Adrian Boender: Exactly.
Jason Torsiello: okay.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, that's what I something I have to look into. Either either change both the buttons and and the cover or just the cover, I'm not sure which
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: which is easier, so Um anyway, yeah, this is what we're gonna do afterwards, just lunch break and have more individual work after that, so let's see what we let's see we So you have to come up with a components concept, yeah. I want some you should do some trend-watching, because
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: even if we're if we're gonna do those covers and everything, what people really want, that's what we need
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: to know in this phase, because that's gonna be the essential final design that we're gonna come up with.
Jesse Castillo: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: Um Yeah, I think user interface is fairly obvious. I mean it
Robert Gillam: Pretty
Jason Torsiello: should
Robert Gillam: straightforward.
Jason Torsiello: be very intuitive, s Yeah, it should speak for itself. Uh for example I bought a remote control last week with a new T_V_, it was it l it's like all buttons and you have no idea what it does at first, and I'm total T_V_ new, anyway. So I think it should be have less or l very little buttons and maybe a second second level menu for the advanced things. Or maybe just stick 'em under a menu, like you said the um the sound options and the surround and whatever, they're more complicated, just stick 'em under one menu and uh give it a just put it in in s in a software piece, you can menu and you can uh select
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: everything you want to to set on your T_V_.
Robert Gillam: Is it techni technically possible to uh send a signal to a television and then
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: pops up a menu, because we're working with different types of television, so we're going to work
Jason Torsiello: That
Robert Gillam: with that?
Jason Torsiello: is true.
Adrian Boender: I don't think so.
Jason Torsiello: No, that's true.
Adrian Boender: No, I don't think so. Because the television needs to respond to
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: the signal,
Jason Torsiello: that's true.
Robert Gillam: It's
Adrian Boender: and if
Robert Gillam: an
Adrian Boender: it doesn't
Robert Gillam: in-built
Adrian Boender: know how,
Robert Gillam: menu,
Adrian Boender: it's
Robert Gillam: isn't it? Yes.
Adrian Boender: Exactly, that's not possible.
Robert Gillam: So basically we
Jason Torsiello: I'm not sure if it's impossible, but uh there's a chance it's not, so.
Robert Gillam: Or we could use a double-sided for less used functions you
Jason Torsiello: A double-sided remote control?
Robert Gillam: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: I don't think that's useful.
Robert Gillam: with the cover. I it's basically an idea to overcome these issues, because
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but then you're gonna have a lot of wasted buttons. For example you have a Sony T_V_ and the half of the buttons won't function if you have
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: a for a Sony
Robert Gillam: No,
Jason Torsiello: that
Robert Gillam: but
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: won't
Robert Gillam: basic
Jason Torsiello: for
Robert Gillam: functions
Jason Torsiello: a Philips T_V_.
Robert Gillam: but functions which are not frequently used. Because
Jason Torsiello: I don't
Robert Gillam: if
Jason Torsiello: think
Robert Gillam: we
Jason Torsiello: we
Robert Gillam: use
Jason Torsiello: should
Robert Gillam: a
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: universal
Jason Torsiello: for exam
Robert Gillam: remote control, we're going to have to have most buttons on it, so
Jesse Castillo: Mm
Jason Torsiello: I'm not s
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: yeah, for ex you have to make it a little decision between the part if you want a universal remote control that it should do what people usually do with their T_V_s, not
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: not the very complicated settings that you
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: can usually do that with uh either a old old remote control if they really hate that thing, but
Adrian Boender: But that
Jason Torsiello: you
Adrian Boender: might
Jason Torsiello: can't
Adrian Boender: be broken.
Jason Torsiello: you cannot take into consideration all the different brands of T_V_s. I think there's I think there is a standard for
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: example between uh because usually the the menu is the menu button is is usable
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: between different brands. Especially the big ones, the
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: big brands, so. 'Cause everybody I have a universal remote control and it can use the menu button,
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: so I think I'm not sure, if you can put some research into that, if it's possible. Uh
Adrian Boender: Mm okay.
Jason Torsiello: I think just a b and the navigation is very basic, it's usually the same thing.
Adrian Boender: For instance, if your old remote control is broken and you buy ours, then uh you
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: should be able to get everything out of the television that's in it.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, that's
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: true.
Adrian Boender: Because
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: otherwise
Jason Torsiello: think
Adrian Boender: you'll
Jason Torsiello: so
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: lose
Jason Torsiello: uh
Adrian Boender: functions
Jason Torsiello: we need
Adrian Boender: by
Jason Torsiello: to put
Adrian Boender: buying
Jason Torsiello: some research
Adrian Boender: our
Jason Torsiello: into that if if we can open the menu, I think it's possible,
Adrian Boender: Okay,
Jason Torsiello: just the way how to.
Adrian Boender: I thi I think so too.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, then then you could do everything I suppose, because usually the T_V_s have tha that inside in this other little piece of software, so it's okay.
Adrian Boender: And I think that our r remote control should not look like uh any other. For instance uh Sony makes all their remote controls exactly the same
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Adrian Boender: for all their devices, and you always grab the wrong one because formatting of the buttons is exactly
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: the same, only the labels are different.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah I think
Adrian Boender: We should
Jason Torsiello: it
Adrian Boender: not
Jason Torsiello: should
Adrian Boender: do
Jason Torsiello: be
Adrian Boender: that.
Jason Torsiello: a little distinct from everything else,
Adrian Boender: Exactly.
Jason Torsiello: because it's
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: either it's both
Robert Gillam: Yeah, I have
Jason Torsiello: mayb
Robert Gillam: some ideas.
Jason Torsiello: maybe the shape can be a little different.
Robert Gillam: I
Jason Torsiello: Maybe
Robert Gillam: have
Jason Torsiello: it's
Robert Gillam: some
Jason Torsiello: a little
Robert Gillam: ideas.
Jesse Castillo: Um
Jason Torsiello: more
Adrian Boender: Mm
Jason Torsiello: curves
Adrian Boender: that's your
Jason Torsiello: or whatever.
Adrian Boender: uh
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Adrian Boender: division.
Jesse Castillo: And uh with
Jason Torsiello: So um
Jesse Castillo: different colours uh.
Robert Gillam: I'll put some on paper and present them next time uh
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: the ideas
Jason Torsiello: this.
Robert Gillam: that I have.
Jason Torsiello: Not
Jesse Castillo: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: sure what because we have forty minutes, I'm not sure how much time we have left for the meeting anyway, so.
Robert Gillam: I heard a beep
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but
Robert Gillam: go.
Jason Torsiello: it wasn't Jesse Castillo, it was him closing
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: something. So anyway, yeah, we could do some i do some work now on on the design for example. I mean what do you want, do you want, but
Robert Gillam: Yeah, but we like some some curves or
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, may maybe something like this. But though smooth inside. So you have the transmitter here for example.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Let's see that you what would be
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: handy. I think that the the buttons should be the channel buttons should
Jesse Castillo: And a
Jason Torsiello: be
Jesse Castillo: light uh
Jason Torsiello: uh on their own. Let's see one, two God damn it.
Robert Gillam: Oh, we get the general ideas, yes.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, okay. Another one here. Let's see what I think this should these are always on top of the of the control,
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: so they should be here.
Robert Gillam: Yeah, and since you're holding it like this, I suggest you put
Jason Torsiello: Think it's
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: like this.
Robert Gillam: channel
Jesse Castillo: Volume.
Robert Gillam: up channel down and volume
Jason Torsiello: Withi within
Robert Gillam: yeah
Jason Torsiello: the Yeah,
Robert Gillam: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: just take it.
Robert Gillam: So you have the up channel the down channel the volume, do we want that horizontal or vertical?
Jason Torsiello: Do you take triangles or
Jesse Castillo: Uh it's it's fine,
Jason Torsiello: Um
Jesse Castillo: I think.
Jason Torsiello: I think
Robert Gillam: This
Jason Torsiello: it
Robert Gillam: is
Jason Torsiello: should
Robert Gillam: basically
Jason Torsiello: be
Robert Gillam: what people are accustomed
Jason Torsiello: I think
Robert Gillam: to,
Jason Torsiello: it
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: so
Jason Torsiello: Maybe we should make 'em bigger or whatever.
Robert Gillam: Yeah, but
Jesse Castillo: Oh
Robert Gillam: this
Jesse Castillo: d
Robert Gillam: is just a g
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: general idea. Uh maybe the menu button can go i
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, in the middle. It's
Robert Gillam: in the
Jason Torsiello: it's
Robert Gillam: middle.
Jason Torsiello: usually uh there, but
Robert Gillam: Whoa.
Jason Torsiello: Mm.
Adrian Boender: Perhaps we should also make uh something like a flash on it, if you if it's lost, for people that are deaf. They they won't
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: hear the the beep.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but for example if it's lost in your armchair, we'll
Robert Gillam: You
Jason Torsiello: not
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: won't
Jason Torsiello: see
Robert Gillam: be able
Jason Torsiello: the flash.
Robert Gillam: to find it.
Jason Torsiello: And flash
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: takes up a lot of batteries again.
Adrian Boender: Yeah, it's true, but it's it's only has to do so when you press the button that
Jesse Castillo: Just
Adrian Boender: it's lost.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: We could make
Adrian Boender: So.
Robert Gillam: a combination that it goes beep and that you that some
Jesse Castillo: And
Robert Gillam: light
Jesse Castillo: L_E_D_
Robert Gillam: lights
Jesse Castillo: uh
Adrian Boender: deaf
Robert Gillam: up.
Adrian Boender: people?
Jesse Castillo: on
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: it.
Jason Torsiello: I thought about for deaf people for example, so. We could do that.
Jesse Castillo: Just
Jason Torsiello: Uh
Jesse Castillo: a light
Jason Torsiello: let's see.
Jesse Castillo: on it or
Robert Gillam: So we have the basic channels we've got here, uh the power button
Jason Torsiello: Oh yeah, it's
Robert Gillam: somewhere
Jason Torsiello: true.
Robert Gillam: over here?
Jason Torsiello: Um that
Jesse Castillo: Very
Jason Torsiello: thing
Jesse Castillo: important.
Jason Torsiello: should be central. You shouldn't be you uh shouldn't press it by accident, but it shouldn't be stacked
Jesse Castillo: Oh,
Jason Torsiello: away somewhere.
Robert Gillam: I usually
Jesse Castillo: that's
Robert Gillam: press
Jesse Castillo: It's
Robert Gillam: it on top. At least
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: that's what I'm accustomed to.
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: have another idea,
Jason Torsiello: like that's
Adrian Boender: I'm
Jason Torsiello: gonna work.
Jesse Castillo: And
Adrian Boender: not sure if it's possible.
Robert Gillam: What would you like to?
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, I thought maybe we should
Jesse Castillo: But you
Jason Torsiello: move
Jesse Castillo: r
Jason Torsiello: the buttons down and
Jesse Castillo: And you are
Jason Torsiello: put
Jesse Castillo: reading
Jason Torsiello: it here
Jesse Castillo: from
Jason Torsiello: for
Jesse Castillo: the
Jason Torsiello: example
Jesse Castillo: t
Jason Torsiello: to
Jesse Castillo: you always read from the top to the the bottom
Jason Torsiello: From
Jesse Castillo: of
Jason Torsiello: top
Jesse Castillo: it.
Jason Torsiello: to bottom. Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: that's
Jesse Castillo: so
Jason Torsiello: true, you should
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jesse Castillo: it's
Jason Torsiello: I think the bu the power button should be on top, 'cause
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: it's the first thing you do, turn it on. So power button on top. Um
Robert Gillam: Okay, mute button.
Jason Torsiello: Mute.
Robert Gillam: Is that
Jason Torsiello: Do we
Robert Gillam: somewhere
Jason Torsiello: hardly
Robert Gillam: here?
Jason Torsiello: I think it should be at the bottom
Robert Gillam: Is
Jesse Castillo: So
Jason Torsiello: somewhere.
Robert Gillam: that
Jesse Castillo: i
Robert Gillam: used
Jesse Castillo: it's
Robert Gillam: often?
Jesse Castillo: sorry?
Robert Gillam: The mute button?
Jason Torsiello: Mute.
Robert Gillam: Do people
Jason Torsiello: Turn the
Robert Gillam: use
Jason Torsiello: sound
Robert Gillam: that
Jason Torsiello: off.
Jesse Castillo: No,
Robert Gillam: often?
Jesse Castillo: it's no.
Robert Gillam: here,
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Robert Gillam: at least
Jesse Castillo: Hmm.
Robert Gillam: in general, but
Jason Torsiello: I don't think it's important,
Robert Gillam: It's
Jason Torsiello: but
Robert Gillam: not
Jason Torsiello: I
Robert Gillam: that
Jason Torsiello: think
Robert Gillam: important,
Jason Torsiello: it
Robert Gillam: no.
Jason Torsiello: I think it should be you c you could put
Jesse Castillo: Or
Jason Torsiello: it somewhere here.
Jesse Castillo: or with the volume selection.
Jason Torsiello: No, because it Yeah, people are accustomed
Jesse Castillo: Around
Jason Torsiello: to that, it's
Jesse Castillo: uh not uh not at top at the around the volume selection.
Jason Torsiello: Can I have that?
Jesse Castillo: I don't
Robert Gillam: Sure.
Jesse Castillo: know where
Jason Torsiello: That's j
Jesse Castillo: exactly, but
Jason Torsiello: Take this out and here see Uh are we gonna take triangles anyway? I'm drawing triangles, but
Robert Gillam: That's pretty much what people are accustomed to, aren't they?
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, it's maybe a bigger lesser than thing. So anyway, I think this is should be the channels and
Jesse Castillo: Wha
Jason Torsiello: or
Robert Gillam: Well,
Jason Torsiello: sh
Robert Gillam: I'm accustomed to
Jesse Castillo: No.
Robert Gillam: the channels
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: being
Adrian Boender: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: on
Adrian Boender: Jesse Castillo
Jason Torsiello: Here,
Adrian Boender: too.
Robert Gillam: top.
Jason Torsiello: okay.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, that's better.
Jason Torsiello: Okay,
Jesse Castillo: On
Jason Torsiello: should we
Jesse Castillo: the
Jason Torsiello: chan
Jesse Castillo: right.
Jason Torsiello: okay, this two, channel up and
Adrian Boender: Shall
Jason Torsiello: down.
Adrian Boender: we uh also look if it's possible to make a rechargeable remote? That you don't have to
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: buy
Jason Torsiello: Well,
Adrian Boender: new batteries
Jason Torsiello: for
Adrian Boender: if
Jason Torsiello: that
Adrian Boender: every
Jason Torsiello: is it's on one part it's um it's
Jesse Castillo: Maybe
Jason Torsiello: a good
Jesse Castillo: it's
Jason Torsiello: thing
Jesse Castillo: more
Jason Torsiello: to recharge
Jesse Castillo: ex
Adrian Boender: Mm,
Jesse Castillo: expensive.
Jason Torsiello: it
Adrian Boender: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Maybe we should what what could be possible is
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: one with rechargeable batteries for example. You have just put Penlite batteries that are rechargeable,
Adrian Boender: But that's
Jason Torsiello: because
Adrian Boender: already
Robert Gillam: But
Jason Torsiello: it's
Adrian Boender: possible.
Jason Torsiello: an it's
Robert Gillam: isn't
Jason Torsiello: it's
Robert Gillam: that expensive in the
Jason Torsiello: it's
Robert Gillam: entire
Jason Torsiello: very annoying.
Robert Gillam: package?
Jason Torsiello: I'm not sure y I'm not sure it's if it's expensive, but just take a look at it, because it might be a very good idea. Because if it's it's uh useful to have it rechargeable,
Adrian Boender: Yes.
Jason Torsiello: but at the same time, if you don't want recha if you forgot to recharge it and you wanna watch T_V_ now,
Adrian Boender: Yes.
Jason Torsiello: you wanna be able to put different batteries in it, use it now and not in half an hour.
Adrian Boender: Okay. Uh you could make a device, but I'm not sure how that uh is possible with the costs, that you can put in normal
Jason Torsiello: How about
Adrian Boender: batteries, rechargeable, but
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: it
Jason Torsiello: think I have a nice idea.
Adrian Boender: you're the remote also can act as a recharger. So then you can choose, you have every decision. Know what I mean?
Jason Torsiello: Not exactly
Adrian Boender: You can
Jason Torsiello: uh.
Adrian Boender: uh put in normal Penlites, rechargeable Penlites,
Jesse Castillo: Hmm.
Adrian Boender: but they can also be recharged with the remote,
Jesse Castillo: Yeah
Adrian Boender: with
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Adrian Boender: a wire.
Jason Torsiello: I think it's uh it's a pretty good
Adrian Boender: So
Jason Torsiello: idea to have
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: uh like
Adrian Boender: but
Jason Torsiello: sort of a
Jesse Castillo: that's
Jason Torsiello: maybe
Jesse Castillo: g
Jason Torsiello: a base station that you put on the T_V_. Could be flat, you could insert your uh remote into it.
Adrian Boender: But I think that will cost a lot. Uh
Jason Torsiello: I'm
Adrian Boender: a normal
Jason Torsiello: not sure.
Adrian Boender: wire would be better. Like a
Jason Torsiello: A what?
Adrian Boender: like a P_D_A_, a hand-held. You can uh just put it in the electricity and it charges itself, you
Jason Torsiello: Well,
Adrian Boender: don't need
Jason Torsiello: we
Adrian Boender: basic
Jason Torsiello: were
Adrian Boender: station.
Jason Torsiello: talking about the fact that we wanted to insert either a beep or a flash into
Adrian Boender: Yes.
Jason Torsiello: the thing with a little separate signal or So you
Adrian Boender: That
Jason Torsiello: could
Adrian Boender: is
Jason Torsiello: put that
Adrian Boender: possible,
Jason Torsiello: on a T_V_
Adrian Boender: that's true.
Jason Torsiello: for example. It could be very flat,
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: could be very small. It's a very
Jesse Castillo: Which
Jason Torsiello: small Yeah, I'm drawing it big now, but So you can put
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: your remote on flat for example.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: And at the backside of remote just just just a little hole
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: for example um you just put it down, it
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: recharges for example. I don't think it's very
Robert Gillam: But again,
Jason Torsiello: expensive.
Robert Gillam: isn't
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: that too expensive? 'Cause that means
Jason Torsiello: I'm not
Robert Gillam: that
Jason Torsiello: sure
Robert Gillam: we
Jason Torsiello: if it
Robert Gillam: have
Jason Torsiello: costs
Robert Gillam: to implement
Jason Torsiello: a lot, that
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: that's
Robert Gillam: rechargeable
Jason Torsiello: what he r
Robert Gillam: batteries, a docking
Jason Torsiello: That's that
Robert Gillam: station
Jason Torsiello: you that's what you buy yourself.
Adrian Boender: Yes. I'm going to try to find that out. I'm not sure if there's information
Jason Torsiello: It's just
Adrian Boender: available
Jason Torsiello: an
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: idea,
Adrian Boender: on this,
Jason Torsiello: we
Adrian Boender: but
Jason Torsiello: have to find out if it's
Robert Gillam: And
Jason Torsiello: possible.
Robert Gillam: do people actually want that?
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, they
Robert Gillam: To
Jesse Castillo: want
Robert Gillam: pay extra
Jesse Castillo: to pay for it.
Jason Torsiello: Do they want
Robert Gillam: they want
Jason Torsiello: but
Robert Gillam: to
Jason Torsiello: they
Robert Gillam: pay
Jason Torsiello: want
Robert Gillam: for
Jason Torsiello: a
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: rechargeable
Robert Gillam: rechargeable?
Jason Torsiello: one? I'm not sure, you should find out if
Jesse Castillo: Th uh
Jason Torsiello: it's if rechargeable is important.
Jesse Castillo: there was not a el ask esque
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: These are uh comfort issues.
Jesse Castillo: But
Adrian Boender: So I think people will pay they wanted to pay for comfort. Well, this
Jason Torsiello: They want
Adrian Boender: is
Jason Torsiello: to
Adrian Boender: comfort.
Jason Torsiello: pay for comfort, we just assu we we could either make a separate
Jesse Castillo: But f
Jason Torsiello: station which
Jesse Castillo: hmm.
Jason Torsiello: just sends a signal to the remote control to either beep or flash
Adrian Boender: Yes.
Jason Torsiello: to find it, um and Yeah, we have to either that
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: or make it integrated with a with a docking
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: station.
Adrian Boender: Exactly. I think this is a brilliant product. I would buy
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: it myself.
Jason Torsiello: think it would be good actually. I like the beep
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: part anyway. So um let's go
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: through
Adrian Boender: like
Jason Torsiello: the
Adrian Boender: the covers. That's a brilliant idea.
Robert Gillam: Can can we
Adrian Boender: I never
Robert Gillam: save
Adrian Boender: thought
Jason Torsiello: Covers
Robert Gillam: this
Jason Torsiello: is
Robert Gillam: or
Jason Torsiello: covers is good. Yeah, it's Oh we can save this. Up and saved. We even saved the ant. Um Okay. So what we have is you have I think you have to do a lot of work on if it's possible for the cost.
Adrian Boender: I hope if I have information about
Jason Torsiello: Maybe
Adrian Boender: that, I'm gonna
Jason Torsiello: yeah, or
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: maybe you can find out i what people are willing to pay. We are going for twenty five Euros
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: sales
Jesse Castillo: okay.
Jason Torsiello: price, but just try to find out what they're willing to pay for
Jesse Castillo: Yeah
Jason Torsiello: it, because
Jesse Castillo: yeah yeah.
Jason Torsiello: if they're willing to pay more, we could lose a little profit and maybe attract
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: more customers, uh we
Adrian Boender: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: just have to
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: see what it looks like.
Adrian Boender: I would like to make a decision. What it costs and what kind of materials that we can uh choose what we want
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: in
Jason Torsiello: if
Adrian Boender: it
Jason Torsiello: you have
Adrian Boender: and
Jason Torsiello: some financial information that
Adrian Boender: exactly, I need it.
Jason Torsiello: that'd be nice, so. Hmm.
Robert Gillam: Could you post some other essentials of what people want, so that I can work with some buttons, where to put it
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: You seem to have information on that, I'd like to uh see some of it.
Adrian Boender: Was it not possible to uh send emails around the office?
Jason Torsiello: No, it wasn't
Robert Gillam: No,
Jason Torsiello: wasn't
Robert Gillam: it's not.
Jason Torsiello: allo
Adrian Boender: Not.
Jason Torsiello: it was possible, not
Robert Gillam: No.
Jason Torsiello: allowed, so. So that's
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: um why I'm not sure that you're allowed to share
Jesse Castillo: My computer
Jason Torsiello: documents
Jesse Castillo: crashed,
Jason Torsiello: on the on the draft.
Jesse Castillo: so
Adrian Boender: Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: uh
Adrian Boender: okay.
Jason Torsiello: I don't care.
Jesse Castillo: I
Jason Torsiello: I
Jesse Castillo: lost
Robert Gillam: Oh, your computer.
Jason Torsiello: haven't
Jesse Castillo: my
Jason Torsiello: heard
Jesse Castillo: uh
Jason Torsiello: any
Jesse Castillo: presentation,
Jason Torsiello: complaints
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: yet, so.
Jesse Castillo: but
Jason Torsiello: Um
Jesse Castillo: I have the uh
Robert Gillam: Well, I have your PowerPoint presentation, I can get some
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, but
Robert Gillam: inf
Jesse Castillo: I
Robert Gillam: information out of that.
Jesse Castillo: Here I have the
Robert Gillam: Let's see.
Jesse Castillo: the s the homepage of uh our internet,
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, the
Jesse Castillo: and
Jason Torsiello: oh,
Jesse Castillo: here
Jason Torsiello: they
Jesse Castillo: is
Jason Torsiello: inc
Jesse Castillo: my
Jason Torsiello: uh they include the new one. Or
Robert Gillam: Oh,
Jason Torsiello: just
Robert Gillam: where
Jason Torsiello: for you.
Robert Gillam: would we
Jesse Castillo: here is my marketing report, maybe you ca
Jason Torsiello: Oh
Jesse Castillo: you
Jason Torsiello: no,
Jesse Castillo: can
Jason Torsiello: I didn't
Jesse Castillo: look
Jason Torsiello: have
Jesse Castillo: at
Jason Torsiello: that.
Jesse Castillo: uh that and
Robert Gillam: Where would we want the uh teletext
Jesse Castillo: Ah yeah.
Robert Gillam: button? Because we
Jesse Castillo: And
Robert Gillam: decided
Jason Torsiello: All
Jesse Castillo: one
Jason Torsiello: it tells
Robert Gillam: that
Jason Torsiello: just
Robert Gillam: it's n not that important.
Jason Torsiello: let's
Robert Gillam: Do we
Jason Torsiello: make
Robert Gillam: put
Jason Torsiello: make
Robert Gillam: it
Jason Torsiello: a new
Robert Gillam: somewhere
Jason Torsiello: tick
Robert Gillam: over
Jason Torsiello: the new
Robert Gillam: here?
Jason Torsiello: one. Um other side. Yeah, let's increase it a little because
Jesse Castillo: And uh wha what people
Robert Gillam: Or
Jesse Castillo: want,
Robert Gillam: maybe this is something for the next meeting,
Jesse Castillo: I've
Robert Gillam: I can
Jesse Castillo: uh
Robert Gillam: draw out some
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Robert Gillam: ideas.
Jason Torsiello: draw us up some some designs of of
Jesse Castillo: I
Jason Torsiello: possible
Jesse Castillo: have another thing
Jason Torsiello: just
Jesse Castillo: uh
Jason Torsiello: keep in mind that the important buttons should be on top
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: and either big, so the
Robert Gillam: Well,
Jason Torsiello: more
Robert Gillam: we have
Jason Torsiello: less important
Robert Gillam: decided more or less the
Jason Torsiello: More
Robert Gillam: basic
Jason Torsiello: or less.
Robert Gillam: structure. I can put the other buttons
Jason Torsiello: Just
Robert Gillam: in
Jason Torsiello: play a little with this, put l shift a little up
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: or down and we'll see what looks best.
Adrian Boender: What uh what did you wanna say?
Jason Torsiello: Or
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: just po post your
Jesse Castillo: Um
Jason Torsiello: designs from time to time on the
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: product share.
Jesse Castillo: Uh what I al already said is the
Robert Gillam: Maybe
Jesse Castillo: the uh
Robert Gillam: another idea
Jesse Castillo: the remote controls
Robert Gillam: uh.
Jesse Castillo: are always lost, but it it's also for people, they want to learn it fast, not uh
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jesse Castillo: they
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jesse Castillo: want to
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, so we don't want we want very
Jesse Castillo: No
Jason Torsiello: little buttons, just the buttons
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: you use a lot.
Jesse Castillo: It's yeah, it's easy to learn
Robert Gillam: Yes, but
Jesse Castillo: wi
Robert Gillam: it
Jesse Castillo: and
Robert Gillam: should
Jesse Castillo: uh
Robert Gillam: cover all the functions, so possibly,
Jason Torsiello: Well what
Robert Gillam: just an
Jesse Castillo: Um
Robert Gillam: idea that
Jason Torsiello: we had
Robert Gillam: popped
Jason Torsiello: function
Robert Gillam: in
Jason Torsiello: that what people do, so. People change channels, people they change the volume and they they change channel, they turn T_V_ off and on, for example. That's the basic fu that's what you do I'm not sure who present that again, but those are the basic function that people use it for, so those should be very well represented.
Robert Gillam: Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: And
Robert Gillam: but we could go a step further, because some T_V_s have the uh possibility
Jesse Castillo: The
Robert Gillam: to adjust brightness,
Jesse Castillo: If
Robert Gillam: that kind of menus.
Jason Torsiello: That's true, but that's what we stick under the menu button. Everything is you
Robert Gillam: Yes,
Jason Torsiello: say in
Robert Gillam: but
Jason Torsiello: every
Robert Gillam: it
Jason Torsiello: T_V_ that's configured under the menu.
Adrian Boender: But
Robert Gillam: Because
Adrian Boender: that's the question,
Robert Gillam: we're making
Adrian Boender: is
Jesse Castillo: Um
Adrian Boender: it? Because it needs to be configured in the television under the menu.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but
Adrian Boender: If it isn't, then we cannot reach it.
Robert Gillam: We need to adjust
Jason Torsiello: But
Robert Gillam: to
Jason Torsiello: I think
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: most modern T_V_s
Robert Gillam: technology.
Jason Torsiello: have it
Adrian Boender: I think
Jason Torsiello: in
Adrian Boender: so
Jason Torsiello: their
Adrian Boender: too.
Jason Torsiello: menu.
Adrian Boender: I think
Robert Gillam: True.
Adrian Boender: so too. Uh isn't there a possibility to do research on that, so we know that for sure? If you rule out functions, then uh and that gets known, then people are not gonna buy it. Then the
Robert Gillam: No,
Adrian Boender: consumer
Robert Gillam: I thi
Adrian Boender: bond or something says uh you cannot do this and that with it.
Jesse Castillo: If um
Adrian Boender: That's a bad bad com commercial
Jason Torsiello: Uh we'll
Adrian Boender: for
Jason Torsiello: we'll see what we can come up with.
Jesse Castillo: Another
Adrian Boender: okay.
Jesse Castillo: thing I want to say is that uh we are looking at the market for the age uh
Jason Torsiello: Under
Jesse Castillo: younger
Jason Torsiello: forty.
Jesse Castillo: than forty.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah?
Adrian Boender: That's true.
Jesse Castillo: Um on my report, I didn't uh ish I didn't show it in my uh presentation,
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm.
Jesse Castillo: because my computer crashed.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah yeah.
Jesse Castillo: Um they want to pay for an L_C_D_ screen
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jesse Castillo: and speech recognition.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: The want to
Jesse Castillo: So
Jason Torsiello: pay for Oh.
Adrian Boender: Did they really said
Jesse Castillo: i
Adrian Boender: it like that?
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Adrian Boender: Those two things.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, and
Adrian Boender: Do they realise
Jason Torsiello: Uh
Adrian Boender: how
Jason Torsiello: shall
Adrian Boender: much
Jason Torsiello: we?
Adrian Boender: that costs? That's
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: almost undoable.
Robert Gillam: Oh,
Jason Torsiello: Younger,
Robert Gillam: we're not going
Jason Torsiello: age
Robert Gillam: to be able
Jesse Castillo: Uh
Jason Torsiello: sixteen
Robert Gillam: to sell it
Jason Torsiello: and
Robert Gillam: for
Jason Torsiello: forty
Robert Gillam: twenty-five
Jesse Castillo: but
Jason Torsiello: five.
Robert Gillam: then, with
Jason Torsiello: That's
Robert Gillam: an L_C_D_
Jason Torsiello: all here, here
Robert Gillam: screen.
Jason Torsiello: it says
Adrian Boender: No, that's that's. Even if i if
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Adrian Boender: we have
Jason Torsiello: age
Adrian Boender: this
Jesse Castillo: If
Jason Torsiello: sixteen
Jesse Castillo: if
Adrian Boender: lost
Jason Torsiello: forty
Jesse Castillo: they
Adrian Boender: unit,
Jason Torsiello: fi interest
Adrian Boender: then
Jason Torsiello: in main features
Adrian Boender: we
Jason Torsiello: more
Adrian Boender: cannot
Jason Torsiello: critical.
Adrian Boender: do it for that price.
Jason Torsiello: Okay, so we're not focusing on this. Um All the interest in features, not really the L_C_ oh here. Would you pay for uh speech recognition in a remote control. Hmm, okay?
Adrian Boender: Yeah, that's true.
Jesse Castillo: So uh we can
Jason Torsiello: Speech recognition is
Jesse Castillo: We
Jason Torsiello: quite
Jesse Castillo: can look at the possibilities for an uh L_C_D_ and uh
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, just look
Jesse Castillo: I
Jason Torsiello: at
Jesse Castillo: dunno.
Jason Torsiello: the possibilities
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: then, because if apparently
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: it's what people want,
Jesse Castillo: How
Jason Torsiello: it's
Jesse Castillo: much it
Jason Torsiello: supposed
Jesse Castillo: will cost
Jason Torsiello: to be a luxurious
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jesse Castillo: and
Jason Torsiello: remote, maybe it's not even that expensive. Or find a compromise, maybe just a black and white
Adrian Boender: Uh
Jason Torsiello: or
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: for some extra
Jesse Castillo: Um
Jason Torsiello: information
Robert Gillam: Well
Jason Torsiello: on it,
Robert Gillam: I doubt it, but
Adrian Boender: But
Jason Torsiello: on your
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: programmes.
Adrian Boender: really need finance information.
Jason Torsiello: Jesse Castillo too. I mean we all do.
Adrian Boender: We all do.
Jesse Castillo: It
Jason Torsiello: Right.
Jesse Castillo: will come uh
Jason Torsiello: I think it's something we should put into consideration. Apparently it's what people want, so.
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: We should see if what it costs, if it's possible.
Adrian Boender: Uh.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah. Yeah, we should do a little thing about design, because it looks boring really to Jesse Castillo. Even if you put it even if you put a different cover on it, it looks still
Jesse Castillo: Different
Jason Torsiello: looks boring,
Jesse Castillo: colours
Jason Torsiello: so.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jesse Castillo: maybe.
Adrian Boender: And the design,
Jesse Castillo: But
Adrian Boender: it should differ. This
Jesse Castillo: all
Adrian Boender: is Philips, huh? Philips has
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: this.
Jason Torsiello: have no clue.
Robert Gillam: Well,
Jason Torsiello: I just
Robert Gillam: I had basically
Jason Torsiello: drew something what
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: which would fit into your hand easily.
Adrian Boender: Hmm. Uh.
Robert Gillam: Something like this. To make it kind of futuristic.
Adrian Boender: Mm. Oh, I realise if we make it small, then it needs to be a little thicker,
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: because
Jason Torsiello: think
Adrian Boender: I
Jason Torsiello: it's
Adrian Boender: need
Jason Torsiello: a
Adrian Boender: to
Jason Torsiello: very
Adrian Boender: put all the electronics in it.
Jason Torsiello: Sorry?
Adrian Boender: If we make it s uh smaller, uh less wide,
Jason Torsiello: Yeah?
Adrian Boender: then we need to m make it a little thicker, because I have to put all the electronics
Jason Torsiello: Okay.
Adrian Boender: in it.
Jason Torsiello: Mm-hmm. Yeah, but you have
Jesse Castillo: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: to j just keep in mind it shouldn't be too heavy. I mean we can stick it in in there, I think.
Adrian Boender: No.
Jason Torsiello: Huh
Robert Gillam: So what
Jason Torsiello: even
Robert Gillam: kind
Jason Torsiello: if
Robert Gillam: of
Jason Torsiello: in the worst case we can even Could you give Jesse Castillo the pen back?
Robert Gillam: Yeah, sure.
Jason Torsiello: So let's say that people would want an L_C_D_ thing. Let's take take the basic design again, what we oh, crap uh came up with. I'll just make it a little bigger now. So a transmitter here. Anyway. We could let's say we have an L_C_D_ screen, people want an L_C_D_ screen. So then we should probably put it here. It doesn't have to be really big, but
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: just just have to be has to be there. Think it's a good place, people don't
Jesse Castillo: If you're reading from top to bottom, I think it's better to put it uh at
Jason Torsiello: No?
Jesse Castillo: the top.
Jason Torsiello: It's not that
Adrian Boender: Jesse Castillo
Jason Torsiello: uh it's
Jesse Castillo: It's
Adrian Boender: too.
Jason Torsiello: not
Jesse Castillo: j
Jason Torsiello: the most important function, it's just
Adrian Boender: Ah
Jason Torsiello: an extra thing, it just
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: you press the buttons
Adrian Boender: but.
Jason Torsiello: on top, because
Jesse Castillo: But
Jason Torsiello: your
Jesse Castillo: i
Jason Torsiello: finger is
Jesse Castillo: if
Jason Torsiello: on top.
Jesse Castillo: you if you are going to uh put the L_C_D_ on it, I think it's very important to use it, uh because it's use it uh
Jason Torsiello: How can you use an L_C_D_ screen?
Jesse Castillo: But nee the function of it. So you can use it maximum, because uh it's a lot it costs a lot. So
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but why I I'm
Robert Gillam: Now
Jason Torsiello: not sure.
Robert Gillam: it's pretty much tucked away in your hand.
Jason Torsiello: Uh if you t
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: if you press a button, you can see it, ri I'm not sure wha I'm trying to imagine myself
Adrian Boender: No.
Jason Torsiello: what it would look like.
Adrian Boender: M I
Robert Gillam: I'm
Adrian Boender: personally would prefer it on the top.
Jason Torsiello: You would prefer
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: it n Okay.
Adrian Boender: Huh.
Jason Torsiello: So we have three people saying it should be on top. Okay,
Adrian Boender: But
Jason Torsiello: but then
Adrian Boender: it
Jason Torsiello: you would would s have to stack away your buttons somewhere else.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Anyways.
Jesse Castillo: It's expensive to build it, so
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: Uh this
Jesse Castillo: you
Robert Gillam: I'm
Jason Torsiello: looks
Jesse Castillo: must
Robert Gillam: still
Jason Torsiello: a little
Robert Gillam: not
Jesse Castillo: use
Robert Gillam: convinced
Jesse Castillo: the maximum
Robert Gillam: of
Jesse Castillo: of it.
Robert Gillam: the
Jason Torsiello: About the L_C_D_s thing.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: Well if it if it's if it's possible wi
Adrian Boender: They
Jason Torsiello: if
Adrian Boender: want
Jason Torsiello: it's
Adrian Boender: it uh.
Jason Torsiello: not too expensive, we should include it, because it's it's cool.
Adrian Boender: We should just try to make that if it's possible. If it is possible we should really do it, but we need that information.
Jesse Castillo: Huh. Uh.
Adrian Boender: Also
Jesse Castillo: But
Adrian Boender: keep in mind
Jesse Castillo: uh
Adrian Boender: again, the L_C_D_ screen is very flat, but it needs transistors, resistors, I don't know what more and that needs space. So I have to look if that's possible.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, I know uh.
Adrian Boender: But if
Robert Gillam: So basically
Adrian Boender: we
Robert Gillam: can I
Jason Torsiello: Uh we have
Robert Gillam: what
Jason Torsiello: green
Robert Gillam: we have
Jason Torsiello: now
Robert Gillam: to decide
Jason Torsiello: uh
Robert Gillam: now is uh what goes on top. Do we put the volume control and the channel control here, or do we put it on he Would we like
Jesse Castillo: In
Robert Gillam: to press
Jesse Castillo: middle
Jason Torsiello: Or
Jesse Castillo: of
Jason Torsiello: maybe
Robert Gillam: it
Jesse Castillo: it.
Jason Torsiello: we should m
Robert Gillam: in the
Jason Torsiello: we
Robert Gillam: middle?
Jason Torsiello: could uh draw
Jesse Castillo: In the middle.
Jason Torsiello: draw something a bit that has it on on on the bottom. Maybe in a circle for example, like we like in this example. I think this is not good, but for we could make circular buttons for example.
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Jason Torsiello: For up
Robert Gillam: Yes,
Jason Torsiello: and
Robert Gillam: but
Jason Torsiello: down,
Robert Gillam: we
Jason Torsiello: ma
Robert Gillam: do agree
Jason Torsiello: make
Robert Gillam: that
Jason Torsiello: it a circle
Robert Gillam: we
Jason Torsiello: on it, because it
Robert Gillam: keep this at the centre, because it's basically
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Robert Gillam: the most important
Jason Torsiello: I think the channel
Jesse Castillo: It's the
Jason Torsiello: button
Jesse Castillo: most
Robert Gillam: function.
Jason Torsiello: should
Jesse Castillo: import
Jason Torsiello: be in the centre.
Jesse Castillo: yeah.
Jason Torsiello: Channel button should be st stick together, for example here in this section. Because it's
Robert Gillam: Well, that
Jason Torsiello: uh
Robert Gillam: would make them quite small.
Jason Torsiello: We're not sure
Robert Gillam: So maybe
Jason Torsiello: about the size
Robert Gillam: you'd put
Jason Torsiello: anyway,
Robert Gillam: them here.
Jason Torsiello: just a general design. You can make it as big as you want. For example if
Robert Gillam: Yes,
Jason Torsiello: you take
Robert Gillam: but a big remote
Jason Torsiello: uh
Robert Gillam: control probably not something which
Adrian Boender: Hmm.
Robert Gillam: people
Jason Torsiello: No,
Robert Gillam: would like.
Jason Torsiello: let's see. For example
Adrian Boender: If
Jason Torsiello: just
Adrian Boender: we have a a space issue, we can also lose one battery. It is rechargeable, so we can stick with one instead
Jason Torsiello: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: of two. That
Jason Torsiello: I
Adrian Boender: might
Jason Torsiello: don't
Adrian Boender: be
Jason Torsiello: think
Adrian Boender: an option.
Jason Torsiello: if we if we even use an L_C_D_ screen, we need to, definitely.
Adrian Boender: Yeah, but if we need two batteries and an L_C_D_ screen, that means a lot of space that we need.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, but
Adrian Boender: But it
Jason Torsiello: we
Adrian Boender: has
Jason Torsiello: have
Adrian Boender: to be a little
Jason Torsiello: to
Adrian Boender: bit
Jason Torsiello: see what
Adrian Boender: heavier.
Jason Torsiello: the si what the size is.
Adrian Boender: Okay.
Jason Torsiello: The L_C_D_ doesn't have to nee doesn't need to be very big.
Adrian Boender: No, but the things behind it. space.
Jason Torsiello: Mm let's see.
Adrian Boender: Like
Jesse Castillo: Finish
Adrian Boender: a process uh.
Jesse Castillo: meeting now. It's
Jason Torsiello: Finish
Jesse Castillo: on
Jason Torsiello: meeting
Jesse Castillo: your computer.
Jason Torsiello: now. Okay, we will.
Robert Gillam: So would
Jason Torsiello: So
Robert Gillam: we
Jason Torsiello: either
Robert Gillam: like this or would we like the
Jason Torsiello: We either we have to decide what
Adrian Boender: I like
Jason Torsiello: what
Adrian Boender: this
Jason Torsiello: people
Adrian Boender: one
Jason Torsiello: want.
Adrian Boender: more.
Jason Torsiello: Either this one, this this could be the luxurious one. So we have channel buttons here. I'm just drawing something uh. Uh I think this would this would look cool. You could have it for example small
Jesse Castillo: Uh.
Jason Torsiello: buttons here for some extra functions, so if your basic function's here, we should like we decided before, programmes up and down,
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jason Torsiello: and
Robert Gillam: Let's
Jesse Castillo: Or
Jason Torsiello: volume
Robert Gillam: see
Jason Torsiello: here.
Robert Gillam: what we have here.
Jesse Castillo: And uh what about speech recognition uh
Jason Torsiello: Well you can just no, I'm not
Jesse Castillo: Yeah,
Jason Torsiello: sure if we can do that, but
Jesse Castillo: yeah,
Jason Torsiello: we could
Jesse Castillo: but
Jason Torsiello: put a microphone
Jesse Castillo: or
Jason Torsiello: in
Jesse Castillo: or
Jason Torsiello: here
Jesse Castillo: an
Jason Torsiello: for
Jesse Castillo: L_C_D_
Jason Torsiello: example.
Jesse Castillo: or an uh speech.
Adrian Boender: Mm.
Jesse Castillo: I think it's L_C_D_ is better now.
Jason Torsiello: Just to do research into both, w what it costs and what it
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Jason Torsiello: takes for space.
Adrian Boender: I'll try
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: to.
Jason Torsiello: But let's cut the meeting for now
Adrian Boender: One more
Jason Torsiello: yes.
Adrian Boender: uh thing I'd like to say, uh let's give this uh a name, and not like some vague serial number that no one understands, like
Robert Gillam: Okay.
Adrian Boender: with cars.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah, okay,
Adrian Boender: Shall we
Jesse Castillo: yeah,
Adrian Boender: all try uh to think about a name?
Robert Gillam: So I think
Jesse Castillo: that's
Robert Gillam: of a name.
Jesse Castillo: yeah, that's
Jason Torsiello: Yeah,
Jesse Castillo: okay.
Jason Torsiello: let's think of a name, okay. Uh okay.
Jesse Castillo: Oh, good.
Jason Torsiello: Okay, at anyways,
Robert Gillam: So
Jason Torsiello: the the minutes will be on the on the web shortly, so there we go
Robert Gillam: Yes,
Jason Torsiello: uh.
Robert Gillam: go and finish up and I'll see you at lunch.
Jesse Castillo: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: Good luck.
Jason Torsiello: Yeah, to all.
Jesse Castillo: Same.
Robert Gillam: Yeah.
Adrian Boender: Yeah, I've Do we uh save the? | Customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes. They like innovative technology like speech recognition and LCD screens. It also transpires that remotes are easy to lose. Everyone agreed that they need to incorporate a locating mechanism in their design, and that changeable covers could make appealing-looking remotes. The need for clarity of button functions was mentioned. On the other hand, materials should be more durable. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. There are some new requirements: the target group will be people below 40, the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. They drew some of their ideas, and discussed the positioning of the buttons and the LCD. The most used buttons are going to be placed on top. It might be possible to use a charger for the remote. The concept of the design will be finalised in the next meeting. | 1 | amisum | test |
Altagracia Bradley: Okay Right. Um well this is the meeting for our our project. Um and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes.
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Um so first of all, just to kind of make sure that we all know each other, I'm Laura and I'm Altagracia Bradley. Do
Alesha Tan: Great.
Altagracia Bradley: you want to introduce yourself again?
Lisa Cote: Hi, I'm David and be an industrial designer.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: And Andrew and I'm uh marketing
Sara Colley: Um
Alesha Tan: expert.
Sara Colley: I'm Craig and I'm User Interface.
Altagracia Bradley: Great. Okay. Um so we're designing a new remote control and um Oh I have to record who's here actually. So David, Andrew and Craig, it? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh design a new remote control. Um, as you can see it's supposed to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief, as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get?
Lisa Cote: Um, I just got the project announcement about
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Lisa Cote: what the project is. Designing
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Lisa Cote: a remote control. That's about it,
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Lisa Cote: didn't
Alesha Tan: Yeah,
Lisa Cote: get
Alesha Tan: that's
Lisa Cote: anything
Alesha Tan: that's
Lisa Cote: else.
Altagracia Bradley: Is that what
Alesha Tan: it.
Altagracia Bradley: everybody
Sara Colley: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: Did
Altagracia Bradley: got?
Lisa Cote: you get the same thing?
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: Um. So we're gonna have like individual work and then a meeting about it. And repeat that process three times. Um and at this point we get try out the whiteboard over there. Um. So uh you get to draw your favourite animal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it. So who would like to go
Alesha Tan: I
Altagracia Bradley: first?
Alesha Tan: will go. That's fine.
Altagracia Bradley: Very good.
Alesha Tan: Alright. So This one here, right?
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like
Alesha Tan: A beagle.
Alesha Tan: Um charac favourite characteristics of it? Is that right?
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: Uh,
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: right, well basically um high priority for any animal for is that they be willing take a lot of physical their family. And, yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health. So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle.
Altagracia Bradley: Right. Lovely.
Sara Colley: Well, my favourite animal would be a monkey.
Sara Colley: Then they're small cute and furry, and uh when planet of the apes becomes real, I'm gonna be up there with them.
Altagracia Bradley: Right.
Lisa Cote: Cool. There's too much gear.
Altagracia Bradley: You can take as long over this as you like, because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss. Ok oh we do we do. Don't feel like you're in a rush, anyway.
Lisa Cote: Okay.
Alesha Tan: I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles.
Altagracia Bradley: Ach
Alesha Tan: Boy, let Alesha Tan tell
Altagracia Bradley: why not
Alesha Tan: you.
Altagracia Bradley: We might have to get you up again then. I don't know what mine is. I'm gonna have to think on the spot now.
Alesha Tan: Impressionist.
Lisa Cote: Can't draw.
Altagracia Bradley: Is
Lisa Cote: Um.
Altagracia Bradley: that a whale?
Lisa Cote: Yeah. Um, well anyway, I don't know, it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic
Altagracia Bradley: Ah.
Lisa Cote: to animal fur, so um fish was a natural choice. Um, yeah, and I kind of like whales. They come in and go eat everything in sight. And they're quite
Alesha Tan: Alright.
Lisa Cote: harmless and mild and interesting.
Alesha Tan: Mm.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay. God, I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um.
Alesha Tan: Superb sketch, by the way.
Lisa Cote: Tail's a bit big, I think.
Altagracia Bradley: I was gonna choose a dog as well. But I'll just draw a different kind of dog.
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: M my favourite animal is my own dog at home. Um That doesn't really look like him, actually. He looks more like a pig, actually. Ah well.
Alesha Tan: I see a dog in there.
Altagracia Bradley: Do you?
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: Oh that's very good of you.
Alesha Tan: Now I see a rooster.
Altagracia Bradley: Uh.
Alesha Tan: What kind is it?
Altagracia Bradley: Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him, um That's just to suggest that his tail wags. Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you, and very kind of affectionate and um uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can doesn't take up too much space. Um and uh And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well, which is quite amusing,
Alesha Tan: Is
Altagracia Bradley: so
Alesha Tan: he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing?
Altagracia Bradley: It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail
Alesha Tan: Hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: 'round the living room.
Lisa Cote: It's an after dinner dog then.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah, so
Alesha Tan: Probably when
Altagracia Bradley: uh
Alesha Tan: he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah,
Alesha Tan: has
Altagracia Bradley: maybe.
Alesha Tan: forever been conditioned.
Altagracia Bradley: Maybe. Right, um where did you find this? Just down here? Yeah. Okay. Um what are we doing next? Uh um. Okay, uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro, um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't
Alesha Tan: 'Kay.
Altagracia Bradley: want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros, so fifty percent of the selling price.
Alesha Tan: Um, can we just go over that again?
Altagracia Bradley: Sure.
Alesha Tan: Uh, so bas at twel Alright, yeah. Okay. So cost like production cost is
Altagracia Bradley: All together.
Alesha Tan: twelve fifty, but selling price is is that wholesale or retail? Like on the shelf.
Altagracia Bradley: Um I dunno. I imagine That's a good
Alesha Tan: Our
Altagracia Bradley: question.
Alesha Tan: sale our sale anyway.
Altagracia Bradley: I imagine it probably is our
Alesha Tan: Yeah,
Altagracia Bradley: sale
Alesha Tan: okay
Altagracia Bradley: actually because it's probably
Alesha Tan: okay.
Altagracia Bradley: up to the the um the retailer to uh
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Altagracia Bradley: sell it for whatever price they want.
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Um.
Alesha Tan: Alright.
Altagracia Bradley: But I I don't know, I mean do you think the fact that it's going to be sold internationally will have a bearing on how we design it at all?
Alesha Tan: Yes.
Altagracia Bradley: Think it will?
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Um.
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Hmm.
Alesha Tan: Well right away I'm wondering if there's um th th uh, like with D_V_D_ players, if there are zones.
Altagracia Bradley: Oh yeah,
Alesha Tan: Um
Altagracia Bradley: regions and
Alesha Tan: f
Altagracia Bradley: stuff, yeah.
Alesha Tan: frequencies or something
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: um
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: as well as uh characters, um different uh keypad styles and s symbols.
Lisa Cote: Hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah. Well for
Alesha Tan: Um.
Altagracia Bradley: a remote control, do you think that will be I suppose
Alesha Tan: I don't
Altagracia Bradley: it's
Alesha Tan: know.
Altagracia Bradley: depends on how complicated our remote control is.
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages, then you need more buttons.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah,
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: So,
Altagracia Bradley: yeah.
Lisa Cote: possibly.
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region, whereas in another it'll be different, so
Altagracia Bradley: What, just like
Alesha Tan: Just
Altagracia Bradley: in
Alesha Tan: a
Altagracia Bradley: terms
Alesha Tan: chara just
Altagracia Bradley: of like
Alesha Tan: a characteristic
Altagracia Bradley: the wealth of the
Alesha Tan: of
Altagracia Bradley: country?
Alesha Tan: the
Altagracia Bradley: Like how
Alesha Tan: Just
Altagracia Bradley: much money people have to spend on things
Alesha Tan: Or just
Altagracia Bradley: like?
Alesha Tan: like, basic product podi positioning, the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London, might not be such a big hit in Greece, who knows,
Altagracia Bradley: Aye, I
Alesha Tan: something
Altagracia Bradley: see what
Alesha Tan: like
Altagracia Bradley: you
Alesha Tan: that,
Altagracia Bradley: mean,
Alesha Tan: yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: yeah. Marketing. Good marketing
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: thoughts. Oh gosh, I should be writing all this down. Um.
Alesha Tan: Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here,
Altagracia Bradley: Mm.
Alesha Tan: thinking, 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic,
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away, is selling twenty five Euros, is that sort of the thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah,
Alesha Tan: thing
Altagracia Bradley: yeah.
Alesha Tan: or
Altagracia Bradley: Like how much does, you know, a remote control cost.
Alesha Tan: Uh-huh.
Altagracia Bradley: Well twenty five Euro, I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something, isn't it?
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Or no, is it as much as that? Sixteen
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: seventeen eighteen pounds.
Alesha Tan: Yeah, I'd say so, yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: Um, I dunno, I've never bought a remote control, so I don't
Alesha Tan: No.
Altagracia Bradley: know how how good a remote
Alesha Tan: Yeah,
Altagracia Bradley: control that would get you.
Alesha Tan: yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: Um. But yeah, I suppose it has to look kind of cool
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: and gimmicky. Um right, okay. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all?
Alesha Tan: Do
Altagracia Bradley: Thin
Alesha Tan: we have any other background information on like how that compares to other
Altagracia Bradley: No, actually. That
Alesha Tan: other
Altagracia Bradley: would be useful, though, wouldn't it, if you knew like
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: what your money would get you
Lisa Cote: Hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: now.
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: Yeah, interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for Alesha Tan is that l as you point out, I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah,
Alesha Tan: It's just
Altagracia Bradley: yeah.
Alesha Tan: like getting shoelaces with shoes or something.
Altagracia Bradley: Oh.
Alesha Tan: It just
Altagracia Bradley: Five
Alesha Tan: comes
Altagracia Bradley: minutes
Alesha Tan: along.
Altagracia Bradley: to end of meeting. Oh, okay. We're a bit behind.
Alesha Tan: Do you know what I mean?
Sara Colley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: Like
Lisa Cote: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be, well the people producing television sets, maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want
Sara Colley: I
Alesha Tan: a
Sara Colley: know
Alesha Tan: better
Sara Colley: um
Alesha Tan: one or something.
Sara Colley: My
Alesha Tan: But
Sara Colley: parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things
Alesha Tan: Right.
Sara Colley: the house.
Alesha Tan: Right. Okay so
Sara Colley: how many devices control.
Alesha Tan: Right, so in function one of the priorities might be
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: to combine as many uses
Altagracia Bradley: Right, so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know,
Alesha Tan: I think so.
Altagracia Bradley: do your
Alesha Tan: Yeah,
Altagracia Bradley: your satellite and
Alesha Tan: yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: your regular telly and
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: your V_C_R_ and everything?
Alesha Tan: Well like um, maybe what we could use is a sort of like a example of a successful other piece technology is palm palm pilots. They're gone from being just like little sort of scribble boards to cameras, M_P_ three players,
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: telephones, everything, agenda. So, like, I wonder if we might add something new to the to the remote control
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: market, such as the lighting in your house, or um
Altagracia Bradley: Or even like, you know, notes about um what you wanna watch. Like you might put in there oh I want
Alesha Tan: Yeah,
Altagracia Bradley: to watch such and such
Alesha Tan: yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: and look a Oh that's a good idea.
Alesha Tan: An
Altagracia Bradley: So extra functionalities.
Alesha Tan: Yeah. Like, p personally for Alesha Tan, at home I've I've combined the um the audio video of my television set and my D_V_D_ player and my C_D_ player. So they w all work actually function together but I have different remote controls for each of them.
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: So it's sort of ironic that that then they're in there um you know, the sound and everything it's just one system. But each one's
Altagracia Bradley: Hmm.
Alesha Tan: got its own little part.
Altagracia Bradley: Um okay, uh I'd wel we're gonna have to wrap up pretty quickly in the next couple of minutes. Um I'll just check we've nothing else. Okay. Um so anything else anybody wants to add about what they don't like about remote controls they've used, what they would really like to be part of this new one at all?
Lisa Cote: And you keep losing them.
Altagracia Bradley: You keep
Alesha Tan: Mm.
Altagracia Bradley: losing them. Okay.
Lisa Cote: Finding them is really
Alesha Tan: Mm.
Lisa Cote: a pain, you know. I
Alesha Tan: Mm.
Lisa Cote: mean it's usually quite small, or when you want
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Lisa Cote: it right, it slipped
Alesha Tan: Mm-hmm.
Lisa Cote: behind the couch or it's
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: kicked under the table.
Altagracia Bradley: W
Alesha Tan: Yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: You get
Lisa Cote: You
Altagracia Bradley: those
Lisa Cote: know.
Altagracia Bradley: ones where you can,
Alesha Tan: That's just really
Altagracia Bradley: if
Alesha Tan: good
Altagracia Bradley: you
Alesha Tan: Lisa Cote
Altagracia Bradley: like, whistle or make a really high pitched noise they beep.
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: There I mean is that something we'd want to include, do you think?
Alesha Tan: Uh,
Altagracia Bradley: Dunno.
Alesha Tan: sure.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay maybe.
Alesha Tan: I remember when the first remote control my my family had was on a cable. Actually had a cable between it and the T_V_ and big like buttons that sort of like, like on a blender or something.
Altagracia Bradley: My goodness.
Alesha Tan: And um, you know, when I think about what they are now, it's better,
Altagracia Bradley: Still
Alesha Tan: Maybe
Altagracia Bradley: feels
Alesha Tan: we could
Altagracia Bradley: quite
Alesha Tan: think
Altagracia Bradley: primitive.
Alesha Tan: about how, could be more, you know, streamlined.
Altagracia Bradley: Maybe
Alesha Tan: S
Altagracia Bradley: like a touch screen or something?
Alesha Tan: Something like that, yeah.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: Or whatever would be technologically reasonable.
Altagracia Bradley: Uh-huh, okay. Well
Alesha Tan: 'Cause
Altagracia Bradley: I guess
Alesha Tan: it could
Altagracia Bradley: that's
Alesha Tan: b
Altagracia Bradley: up
Alesha Tan: it
Altagracia Bradley: to
Alesha Tan: could
Altagracia Bradley: our industrial
Alesha Tan: it could be
Altagracia Bradley: designer.
Alesha Tan: that f it could be that functionally that doesn't make it any better, but that just the appeal
Altagracia Bradley: It looks
Alesha Tan: of
Altagracia Bradley: better.
Alesha Tan: of not having You know, these days there's a r pe things in people's homes are becoming more and more like chic, you know.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Alesha Tan: Um, nicer materials and
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: might be
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: be worth exploring anyway.
Sara Colley: Uh.
Altagracia Bradley: Right, well um so just to wrap up, the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes. So that's about um about ten to twelve by my watch. Um so inbetween now and then, um as Lisa Cote, you're gonna be working on you know the actual working
Lisa Cote: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: design of it so y you know what you're doing there. Um for user interface, technical functions, I guess that's you know like what we've been talking about, what it'll actually do. Um and uh marketing executive, you'll be just thinking about what it actually what, you know, what requirements it has to has to fulfil and you'll all get instructions emailed to you, I guess.
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Altagracia Bradley: Um. Yeah, so it's th the functional design stage is next, I guess. And uh and that's the end of the meeting. So I got
Alesha Tan: Um.
Altagracia Bradley: that little message a lot sooner than I thought I would, so
Alesha Tan: Before we wrap up, just to make sure we're all on the same page here,
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: um, do we We were given sort of an example of a coffee machine or something,
Altagracia Bradley: Uh-huh,
Alesha Tan: right?
Altagracia Bradley: yeah.
Lisa Cote: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: Well, um are we at ma right now on the assumption that our television remote control may have features which go beyond the television? Or are we keeping
Altagracia Bradley: Th
Alesha Tan: sort of like a a design commitment to television features?
Altagracia Bradley: Okay,
Alesha Tan: I
Altagracia Bradley: well
Alesha Tan: I don't know.
Altagracia Bradley: just very quickly 'cause this we're supposed to finish now.
Alesha Tan: Yep.
Altagracia Bradley: Um I guess
Alesha Tan: Yeah, sure.
Altagracia Bradley: that's up to us, I mean you probably want some kind of unique selling point of it,
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Altagracia Bradley: so um,
Lisa Cote: I
Altagracia Bradley: you
Lisa Cote: think
Altagracia Bradley: know
Lisa Cote: one factor would be production cost.
Alesha Tan: Okay, yeah.
Lisa Cote: Because
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: there's a cap there, so um
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Lisa Cote: depends on how much you can cram into that price.
Altagracia Bradley: Mm-hmm.
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Lisa Cote: Um.
Altagracia Bradley: Yeah.
Lisa Cote: I think that that's the main factor.
Altagracia Bradley: Okay.
Alesha Tan: Okay.
Altagracia Bradley: Right, okay, we'll that's that's the end of the meeting, then.
Alesha Tan: Alright.
Altagracia Bradley: Um. So, uh thank you all for coming.
Lisa Cote: Cool. | Altagracia Bradley introduced the upcoming project to the team members and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed what they liked about the animal. Altagracia Bradley talked about the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in making the remote. | 2 | amisum | test |
Ann Atkins: Uh, making
Dorthy Monroe: Alright so
Ann Atkins: a
Dorthy Monroe: twenty
Ann Atkins: profit
Dorthy Monroe: five.
Ann Atkins: of fifty million
Nancy Sanderson: Mm 'kay.
Ann Atkins: So, it's
Dorthy Monroe: So yeah,
Ann Atkins: go
Dorthy Monroe: I've
Ann Atkins: gonna have to be be pretty damn
Dorthy Monroe: The only
Ann Atkins: trendy.
Dorthy Monroe: the only remote controls I've used usually come with the television, and
Ann Atkins: Yeah.
Dorthy Monroe: they're
Nancy Sanderson: Mm-hmm.
Dorthy Monroe: fairly
Ann Atkins: Yeah.
Dorthy Monroe: basic. So uh
Ann Atkins: Yeah, I was thinking that as well, I think the the only ones that I've seen that you buy are the sort of one for all type things
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah
Ann Atkins: where
Nancy Sanderson: the universal
Ann Atkins: they're,
Nancy Sanderson: ones
Ann Atkins: yeah.
Dorthy Monroe: Mm.
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah.
Ann Atkins: So presumably that might be an idea to
Dorthy Monroe: But but
Ann Atkins: put
Dorthy Monroe: to
Ann Atkins: into.
Dorthy Monroe: sell it
Teri Reed: Slim.
Dorthy Monroe: for twenty five you need a lot of neat features. For
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah.
Ann Atkins: Yeah,
Dorthy Monroe: sure.
Ann Atkins: yeah.
Nancy Sanderson: Mm-hmm,
Ann Atkins: And that's
Nancy Sanderson: it's
Ann Atkins: quite
Nancy Sanderson: about
Ann Atkins: a
Nancy Sanderson: that.
Ann Atkins: lot for a remote control.
Dorthy Monroe: Yeah,
Nancy Sanderson: Mm.
Dorthy Monroe: yeah.
Nancy Sanderson: Um well my first thoughts would be most remote controls are grey or black. As you said they come with the T_V_ so it's normally just your basic grey
Ann Atkins: Uh-huh.
Nancy Sanderson: black remote control functions, so maybe we could think about colour?
Ann Atkins: Mm-hmm.
Nancy Sanderson: Make that might make it a bit different from the rest at least. Um, and as you say, we need to have some kind of gimmick,
Ann Atkins: Okay.
Nancy Sanderson: thought maybe something like if you lose it and you can whistle, you know those things?
Ann Atkins: The the keyrings,
Nancy Sanderson: Because we always
Ann Atkins: yeah
Nancy Sanderson: lose our remote
Ann Atkins: yeah.
Nancy Sanderson: control.
Dorthy Monroe: Right.
Ann Atkins: Okay, that's cool.
Teri Reed: Uh yeah uh, being as Exper Expert I will like to say other things we must see the market potential for this product like what is the competition in the market? What are the available prices of the other remote controls in the prices? What speciality other remote controls are having
Ann Atkins: Okay.
Teri Reed: and how complicated it is to use these remote controls as compared to other remote controls available in the market.
Nancy Sanderson: Okay.
Teri Reed: like and apart from this, it should be having a good look also, because people really li uh like to play with it
Nancy Sanderson: Mm.
Teri Reed: when they are watching movies or playing with or playing with their C_D_ player, M_P_ three player like
Nancy Sanderson: Mm-hmm.
Teri Reed: any electronic devices.
Nancy Sanderson: Mm-hmm.
Teri Reed: They really want to have something good, having a good design
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah.
Teri Reed: in their hands,
Ann Atkins: Okay.
Teri Reed: so,
Ann Atkins: 'Kay.
Teri Reed: yes, all this.
Dorthy Monroe: Uh,
Ann Atkins: So, we're
Dorthy Monroe: what do
Ann Atkins: looking
Dorthy Monroe: we think a
Ann Atkins: for 'Kay.
Dorthy Monroe: What do we
Ann Atkins: We're
Dorthy Monroe: think a good size would be for this?
Ann Atkins: Sorry,
Dorthy Monroe: 'Cause
Ann Atkins: carry on.
Dorthy Monroe: I I know as you add more buttons to the remote it sometimes gets so big and clunky
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah.
Dorthy Monroe: and there's
Ann Atkins: Mm-hmm.
Dorthy Monroe: just like a hundred buttons on it,
Ann Atkins: Mm-hmm.
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah.
Dorthy Monroe: or you could have a really small slim one but then you could lose it easily.
Nancy Sanderson: Then you lose
Ann Atkins: Okay.
Nancy Sanderson: it, yeah. Kind of um, maybe more like a P_D_A_ kind of, just hand held, like,
Ann Atkins: For
Nancy Sanderson: 'cause
Ann Atkins: for uh remember we're trying to make it for twelve Euros fifty.
Nancy Sanderson: Yeah. No, I wasn't, no sorry I wasn't thinking of the screen of like
Ann Atkins: Okay
Nancy Sanderson: a P_D_A_
Ann Atkins: well
Nancy Sanderson: but
Ann Atkins: right we'll have to um I'll we're k having another meeting in half an hour so
Nancy Sanderson: Okay.
Ann Atkins: um we should all look into a bit uh, oh actually, no, we'll allocate. So you do the looking around at other remote controls.
Teri Reed: Yeah.
Ann Atkins: Um, if you could maybe come up with sort of shapes and suggested shades or whatever, and you could look into um basically how how it's made I_E_ like how you make it all in one, how what sort of materials are available to you whatever. And obviously, other instructions will come from the personal coach.
Dorthy Monroe: Right.
Ann Atkins: Which will probably just usurp what I said so
Nancy Sanderson: So you want Teri Reed to look at shapes and everything you said?
Ann Atkins: Shapes and
Nancy Sanderson: Yep.
Ann Atkins: colours and
Nancy Sanderson: Okay.
Ann Atkins: um basically how to make it attractive. Uh.
Nancy Sanderson: Mm-hmm.
Ann Atkins: And you look at competition
Teri Reed: Yep.
Ann Atkins: and design. Cool.
Nancy Sanderson: Okay.
Dorthy Monroe: Okay.
Ann Atkins: So we have
Dorthy Monroe: Wait
Ann Atkins: uh
Dorthy Monroe: for emails?
Teri Reed: Uh.
Ann Atkins: Um.
Dorthy Monroe: Hmm.
Ann Atkins: Okay, groovy. And no doubt we'll get um
Nancy Sanderson: Oh no, Sorry
Ann Atkins: Sorry.
Nancy Sanderson: it's okay.
Ann Atkins: We'll get um warnings for next meetings as well.
Nancy Sanderson: Okay, cool.
Ann Atkins: Okay. I shall I can't imagine these are worth much. Okay.
Teri Reed: Hmm.
Ann Atkins: Fashion into electronic. Okay. | The group discussed their initial ideas about the features that they wanted to integrate into the design. They discussed making a universal remote with a locator function. They also discussed the shape and the number of functions in the main interface. Ann Atkins instructed Teri Reed to examine competitors' remotes, Nancy Sanderson to research possible shapes and colors, and Dorthy Monroe to research possible materials and the necessary internal components of the device. | 2 | amisum | test |
Sharon Williams: I'm proud of it.
Maureen Collier: Okay. This is our final meeting, the detailed meeting. And again I'll take minutes. The what we have to get through in this meeting is firstly the prototype presentation from you two, so you can show us what you've been working
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: on so diligently. Um
Mildred Bennett: It
Maureen Collier: then
Mildred Bennett: does look very cool.
Maureen Collier: then Cat's going to present the evaluation criteria that we're going to be evaluating this against. Then I need to say some st a few things about finance, 'cause we have to check that it's within the finance criteria. Um and then be making sure that product fits both the evaluation criteria from Cat the financial. Um and then we uh will have a brief evaluation of the whole process of production and design that we've been through. So we've got forty minutes.
Mildred Bennett: And
Maureen Collier: S
Mildred Bennett: then do get to make a remote control?
Maureen Collier: 'Cause we missed out.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: So it's now I guess that we're supposed to start at fifteen thirty five, so we've got until four fifteen.
Sharon Williams: Uh-huh.
Maureen Collier: Is that
Sharon Williams: How
Maureen Collier: right?
Sharon Williams: how much do we have, forty minutes?
Linda Jones: Yeah, about
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: four
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: fifteen,
Maureen Collier: until
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: about four fifteen. So yeah.
Sharon Williams: Okay, so.
Maureen Collier: Go for it. Do you want
Linda Jones: So, you said um are are we starting with the
Maureen Collier: Yes.
Linda Jones: the
Sharon Williams: Presentation.
Linda Jones: so will you maybe start with like the mm the shape and things and and then I will explain the the user interface th uh things,
Sharon Williams: Okay.
Linda Jones: like the buttons and the scrolling things and
Sharon Williams: Okay. So um basically going with our trend of vegetables and we selected the colour and approximate shape of banana. Um
Mildred Bennett: You think bananas are a safe thing to use? It's a bit um phallic.
Sharon Williams: Yeah. Um
Linda Jones: Well, but it's it's just an a
Maureen Collier: Dual
Linda Jones: approximation.
Maureen Collier: use, perfect.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Dual use, perfect.
Mildred Bennett: Oh, your remote control? Oh that's just bad.
Maureen Collier: Does it vibrate when you press the buttons? Sorry, sorry.
Sharon Williams: Um so basically it's the it's the flip open thing again.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Williams: So now we we have the okay, so Ma Maarika explain you the user interface there. And it flips open on the side, so it opens like that.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Williams: And we have the user interface
Maureen Collier: Wow.
Sharon Williams: o in here and uh the the L_C_D_ and and the scroll are inside. Um well, everything else is probably user interface, so. Yeah,
Linda Jones: Uh
Maureen Collier: And it's
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: the whole thing's made of rubber,
Linda Jones: Rubber.
Sharon Williams: Oh
Maureen Collier: is that
Sharon Williams: yeah. Yeah, it has, yeah.
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: Is it to scale, or do you think you can make it a bit smaller?
Linda Jones: Um it could be made a bit smaller, and and of it would be and yeah,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: but um one thing we actually kind of um forgot while designing, that one side was supposed to be rounder, so we
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Linda Jones: said the back side
Sharon Williams: well,
Linda Jones: round,
Sharon Williams: but
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: i since it's made of rubber anyway. I
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Williams: I think
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: it's
Mildred Bennett: It
Sharon Williams: it's
Mildred Bennett: l does
Sharon Williams: uh
Mildred Bennett: look like the curvy and then the whole shape's curvy, so I
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: that this
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: curvy does look quite like a vegetable.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Mm. Hmm.
Linda Jones: And it's spongy as well.
Mildred Bennett: I wasn't
Linda Jones: So
Mildred Bennett: very keen on that, but yeah.
Maureen Collier: Huh.
Linda Jones: so uh the user interface as as we discussed last time uh mm on on the on the cover we just have the very basic things.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: So we have that n uh channels here starting from um uh one two three there would be numbers in in
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: the on the actual one. So it's four, up to four, up to seven,
Maureen Collier: Six
Linda Jones: up
Maureen Collier: seven
Linda Jones: to nine
Maureen Collier: eight nine.
Linda Jones: and zero, z
Maureen Collier: I
Linda Jones: zero
Maureen Collier: like
Linda Jones: here.
Maureen Collier: that.
Linda Jones: Yeah. And then, well this is on off button. It's it's quite standard mm place for it and and also the colour is quite often red, so it's it's kind of user friendly.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: And then these ones would be for flipping the channels back and like the previous one and the next one.
Maureen Collier: Uh-huh.
Linda Jones: And and we would also have a l little um thing saying here, previous and ne prevon prevon next.
Mildred Bennett: So
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: where's the volume?
Linda Jones: The volume is is scrolling. On
Sharon Williams: It's
Linda Jones: the side,
Sharon Williams: on the side.
Linda Jones: this
Mildred Bennett: Ah,
Linda Jones: one.
Mildred Bennett: you
Linda Jones: Yeah
Mildred Bennett: did
Linda Jones: you
Mildred Bennett: get
Linda Jones: just
Mildred Bennett: that
Linda Jones: do
Mildred Bennett: in
Linda Jones: it
Mildred Bennett: then,
Linda Jones: like this.
Mildred Bennett: mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: And and and it's it's on the back is mm cover or back lid, because if you flip it open, you can still do the scrolling here.
Mildred Bennett: Oh
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: okay,
Linda Jones: See? So the volume is you just scroll, but then once you flip it open, okay, there there you have the screen
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: and and you have the mm spinning wheel with
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: options to choose. You can move back and forth and then if you need to m choose something on the screen, you just push the cen mm the middle button.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Cool. Oh, the thing we forgot was like a mute button.
Linda Jones: A mute
Sharon Williams: Uh
Linda Jones: button.
Sharon Williams: no,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: we we'd not put
Linda Jones: Well,
Sharon Williams: so on
Linda Jones: we'll have this on the screen, on the display.
Sharon Williams: on the cover
Maureen Collier: Y or
Sharon Williams: we
Maureen Collier: you could
Sharon Williams: have
Maureen Collier: have
Sharon Williams: the
Maureen Collier: it
Sharon Williams: the
Maureen Collier: so
Mildred Bennett: On
Sharon Williams: bare
Mildred Bennett: the
Maureen Collier: you
Sharon Williams: essentials.
Mildred Bennett: wheel, like
Maureen Collier: on the
Mildred Bennett: if
Maureen Collier: wheel
Mildred Bennett: you hold
Maureen Collier: if
Mildred Bennett: the
Maureen Collier: you.
Mildred Bennett: wheel down then it will
Sharon Williams: Uh on
Mildred Bennett: mute.
Sharon Williams: the L_C_D_ we r you know, the main
Linda Jones: Well,
Sharon Williams: menu will
Linda Jones: but
Sharon Williams: have
Linda Jones: the
Sharon Williams: various
Linda Jones: but the mute
Sharon Williams: options.
Linda Jones: yeah, the scrolling is kind of you have to scroll all the way to make it mute, right?
Maureen Collier: But if you
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: hold
Mildred Bennett: but it's a
Maureen Collier: it
Mildred Bennett: scroll
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Maureen Collier: in,
Mildred Bennett: and click, isn't it?
Maureen Collier: if it's a scroll and click so you
Linda Jones: Okay,
Maureen Collier: hold it in?
Mildred Bennett: Okay, cool.
Linda Jones: yeah,
Mildred Bennett: So that
Linda Jones: okay.
Mildred Bennett: that solves the whole mute issue.
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Linda Jones: Yeah. And okay, so i so the the voice recognition is also just part of it. You can't really see it in
Maureen Collier: no.
Linda Jones: the interface.
Sharon Williams: Yeah, it's
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: hidden in there
Linda Jones: And
Sharon Williams: somewhere.
Linda Jones: we do have the logo on it as
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm,
Linda Jones: well.
Maureen Collier: very good.
Linda Jones: So I think
Maureen Collier: And it's
Linda Jones: it
Maureen Collier: with the the black and yellow you're even in the right colours.
Linda Jones: Yeah. Yeah, I
Sharon Williams: Cool.
Linda Jones: think um we could do l the logo in grey,
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: as it is on the website.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: We
Linda Jones: In the actual
Sharon Williams: ran out
Linda Jones: one.
Sharon Williams: of resources here, so.
Linda Jones: Yeah. So if
Sharon Williams: You
Linda Jones: you
Sharon Williams: can
Linda Jones: have
Sharon Williams: have
Linda Jones: questions.
Sharon Williams: a look.
Maureen Collier: Very good, let's have a look. Test it out. Uh it's a sort of intermediate colour, I guess.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, oh, we hold the remote. Oh, but it it does feel all cold and slimy. I hate Play-Do, it's just minging. But yeah, uh that's cool, cool.
Maureen Collier: Very good.
Mildred Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Maureen Collier: Okay, so maybe if we go on to evaluation cri criteria
Mildred Bennett: Okay.
Maureen Collier: and then we'll
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: there
Sharon Williams: see
Maureen Collier: I
Sharon Williams: the
Maureen Collier: suspect
Sharon Williams: budget.
Maureen Collier: we're gonna have a couple of minor finance issues, but um we'll se I'm sure we can get around them somehow.
Maureen Collier: We'll just send all of our manufacturing to some nice poor country and cut some of the prices that way.
Mildred Bennett: Wales.
Maureen Collier: Wales, for example.
Mildred Bennett: Mm. Cool, okay. Right, okay.
Mildred Bennett: Fabulous,
Maureen Collier: Marketing Expert.
Mildred Bennett: yeah. Okay, cool. So what we're gonna do is prefer prepare the evaluation of the new design.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Um so we're gonna be using a seven point scale, so one is, you know, yes, it totally meets with that requirement and seven is, no, it really doesn't, we need to go back and start again. Um, you know. Basically, what I did was I went through all the like user requirements and things that we've done and we've worked on and like made a list of them. Um you know, so that we can evaluate each one and like so it was about going back to the start and saying oh yeah, we did manage to do that, or oh no, we really forgot about
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: that.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Okay? Cool, so these are what they are. Oh
Maureen Collier: So for each of these we need to give it a one to seven. Is that right?
Mildred Bennett: Yes, I did have A_, B_, C_, and D_ down here, but it seems to have turned into like
Maureen Collier: Mm
Mildred Bennett: just bullet
Maureen Collier: dots,
Mildred Bennett: points.
Maureen Collier: never mind.
Mildred Bennett: Okay. But if you can imagine that they say A_, B_, C_, and D_, then that would be really good.
Sharon Williams: I guess we'll give it maximum points in everything.
Linda Jones: Yeah, the yeah, it's definitely attractive.
Maureen Collier: Yeah, I agree.
Linda Jones: Oh, the locatable thing we actually forgot.
Mildred Bennett: Well, I thought we'd um kinda said that you'd have a little thing to stick on the T_V_?
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: Shall I just prepare it
Maureen Collier: just
Linda Jones: now?
Maureen Collier: prepare one now.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: It will be red, too.
Mildred Bennett: Cool. Okay. So, be attractive to look at. That's this one. What do you all say?
Sharon Williams: So?
Maureen Collier: I reckon
Linda Jones: S seven
Maureen Collier: it
Linda Jones: was th the maximum, yeah?
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: I I go for seven.
Maureen Collier: Seven,
Mildred Bennett: Oh
Maureen Collier: yeah,
Sharon Williams: Yes.
Maureen Collier: it's terribly
Mildred Bennett: we're all so
Maureen Collier: sexy.
Mildred Bennett: proud of the.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, so that'll be a seven for A_. Could oh no, you can't whilst that's up there. Okay um uh what I've done on the next page is I've set it up so we just put the marks in.
Maureen Collier: Ah, okay.
Sharon Williams: Okay.
Maureen Collier: Excellent. Except we can't
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: uh we
Mildred Bennett: But
Maureen Collier: can
Sharon Williams: But
Mildred Bennett: that's
Sharon Williams: we can
Maureen Collier: if
Mildred Bennett: alright.
Sharon Williams: we can
Maureen Collier: we
Mildred Bennett: If you
Sharon Williams: I can
Mildred Bennett: take
Sharon Williams: I can take
Mildred Bennett: a note
Sharon Williams: note
Mildred Bennett: of them,
Maureen Collier: then
Mildred Bennett: and
Sharon Williams: uh
Mildred Bennett: then
Maureen Collier: yeah,
Mildred Bennett: I'll
Maureen Collier: I'll
Sharon Williams: uh
Mildred Bennett: put
Maureen Collier: take
Mildred Bennett: them
Maureen Collier: a
Mildred Bennett: in
Maureen Collier: note,
Mildred Bennett: in a minute.
Maureen Collier: it's fine.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, so we're all agreeing on seven for A_?
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Cool, okay. Does it match the operating behaviour of the user?
Linda Jones: I
Sharon Williams: Um
Linda Jones: would
Maureen Collier: I think
Linda Jones: think
Maureen Collier: it does.
Linda Jones: yes,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: the the
Mildred Bennett: I
Sharon Williams: only
Mildred Bennett: mean
Sharon Williams: thing that we were considering was that uh this thing is kind of more for right-handed people than for left-handed people, so if you're left-handed you're kind of
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: left uh
Linda Jones: so
Maureen Collier: Alright.
Sharon Williams: scrolling
Linda Jones: y so we
Sharon Williams: with your
Linda Jones: we
Sharon Williams: finger.
Linda Jones: might do we might want to do like a uh another m model another another version, which is like exactly the mirror image of this one.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: But that's gonna be a
Sharon Williams: But
Maureen Collier: problem,
Sharon Williams: then
Maureen Collier: 'cause
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Maureen Collier: you don't always have all left-handers or all right-handers in a family.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: So
Mildred Bennett: I th I think
Sharon Williams: bu
Mildred Bennett: it's
Sharon Williams: it's
Mildred Bennett: not
Sharon Williams: it's not a huge problem,
Mildred Bennett: it's
Sharon Williams: because
Mildred Bennett: not like
Sharon Williams: i
Linda Jones: But
Sharon Williams: i it
Mildred Bennett: it's
Linda Jones: then
Mildred Bennett: a pen.
Linda Jones: then
Sharon Williams: is operatable.
Linda Jones: I think left-handed people are already used to discrimination
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: anyway, so they just
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, but I mean because it's not like it's a pen, you know, left-handed
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: people can't normally write right-handed, but they can normally do most things right-handed,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: so I
Sharon Williams: Right.
Mildred Bennett: would say it's not such a big issue.
Linda Jones: Yeah, because
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: I mean anyway, right-handed people would be able to
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: scroll with it, so i
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: if the
Mildred Bennett: I
Linda Jones: majority
Mildred Bennett: mean you can
Linda Jones: are right-handed,
Mildred Bennett: you can use
Linda Jones: it's
Mildred Bennett: your finger
Linda Jones: uh
Mildred Bennett: to to
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: scroll rather than your thumb.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Yep.
Mildred Bennett: So I mean that does kind of negate the whole R_S_I_ issue.
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Mildred Bennett: So maybe we need to put that needs a little bit of investigation, maybe
Maureen Collier: Um
Mildred Bennett: give it a five, I would say? What do you what do you all think?
Maureen Collier: Six.
Linda Jones: Or maybe
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Linda Jones: six, because it's just one one i one
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: among
Maureen Collier: I
Linda Jones: the issues,
Maureen Collier: think
Linda Jones: I
Maureen Collier: I
Linda Jones: mean.
Maureen Collier: think
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: for um I mean most people are right-handed, so in in terms of our greatest target group, I think it's pretty good,
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: but
Sharon Williams: One
Maureen Collier: we might
Sharon Williams: more
Maureen Collier: want
Sharon Williams: thing
Maureen Collier: to
Sharon Williams: is
Maureen Collier: flag
Sharon Williams: that i
Maureen Collier: it for management, they want might want to um
Mildred Bennett: Okay.
Sharon Williams: It
Maureen Collier: They
Sharon Williams: might be a little clumsy when when it opens up, right, so it opens on the side.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: No, yeah,
Sharon Williams: So
Linda Jones: but mm but we have it nicely with the hinges
Sharon Williams: Yeah
Linda Jones: here yeah.
Sharon Williams: yeah
Linda Jones: So
Sharon Williams: yeah,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: I mean
Linda Jones: it
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: So you
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: guys
Linda Jones: won't
Sharon Williams: can decide
Linda Jones: be a problem,
Sharon Williams: wh
Linda Jones: it will be
Sharon Williams: whether
Linda Jones: and it will be it won't be heavy.
Sharon Williams: Oops.
Mildred Bennett: I th I think the alternative is flipping from the top.
Linda Jones: Yeah
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Linda Jones: well
Sharon Williams: but
Linda Jones: yeah,
Sharon Williams: we
Linda Jones: but it's it's
Sharon Williams: which
Maureen Collier: The
Linda Jones: a
Sharon Williams: makes
Linda Jones: bit
Maureen Collier: length
Linda Jones: long.
Sharon Williams: it kind
Maureen Collier: is gonna
Sharon Williams: of really
Maureen Collier: be difficu
Linda Jones: It's a little bit long.
Sharon Williams: big, yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah
Linda Jones: Well, I mean it can
Mildred Bennett: um
Linda Jones: be opened like this of course
Mildred Bennett: But
Linda Jones: and
Mildred Bennett: you were thinking
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: about making it smaller, yeah?
Maureen Collier: Mm.
Sharon Williams: Uh
Mildred Bennett: Because
Sharon Williams: this
Linda Jones: S
Sharon Williams: this
Linda Jones: uh
Sharon Williams: kind
Linda Jones: slightly
Sharon Williams: of uh
Linda Jones: smaller.
Sharon Williams: makes it more and
Mildred Bennett: So you have
Sharon Williams: two,
Mildred Bennett: to
Sharon Williams: it
Mildred Bennett: keep
Sharon Williams: might interfere with the
Mildred Bennett: that side
Sharon Williams: I_R_
Mildred Bennett: flat.
Sharon Williams: channel.
Linda Jones: Yeah, but if we flip it open only as much as that.
Sharon Williams: Okay.
Mildred Bennett: So it works like a mobile phone flipping, but y you know, as long as that side's flat, than that will work.
Sharon Williams: Right.
Mildred Bennett: Okay.
Sharon Williams: Okay.
Mildred Bennett: Um okay, so C_. Are are we admitting defeat on C_ or are we saying we're gonna stick a locator on the T_V_?
Maureen Collier: No,
Sharon Williams: No,
Maureen Collier: we're gonna
Sharon Williams: we
Maureen Collier: put
Sharon Williams: have
Maureen Collier: it like
Sharon Williams: a locator.
Maureen Collier: we've got th there's the locator
Mildred Bennett: There's a locator.
Maureen Collier: dot.
Mildred Bennett: Cool,
Linda Jones: Mm
Mildred Bennett: so that
Linda Jones: that
Mildred Bennett: means
Linda Jones: you stick
Mildred Bennett: you need
Linda Jones: on
Mildred Bennett: a
Linda Jones: T_V_.
Mildred Bennett: that
Maureen Collier: Mm.
Mildred Bennett: does mean you need a little speaker on it though, doesn't it? To make it beep.
Linda Jones: Yeah
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Or
Linda Jones: well
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: a buzzer.
Linda Jones: w but l but the speak sample speaker is included, so it it has some
Mildred Bennett: Okay.
Linda Jones: capacity to mm to do
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: some to
Mildred Bennett: So
Linda Jones: make some sounds, so
Mildred Bennett: that's
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: two, so that's seven, yeah. It's locatable?
Linda Jones: Yep.
Mildred Bennett: Fabulous. D_.
Sharon Williams: Intuitive, completely intuitive.
Linda Jones: Yeah. If uh uh if this means intuitive, if it means the way people kind of are used to finding things and it's
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: I th I think
Maureen Collier: I'd
Linda Jones: it's
Maureen Collier: say six, 'cause the I mean the the standard layout for numbers is three three three and one, rather than the way you've got it. I really like the way you have it,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: but it's not the immediate thing that
Sharon Williams: Intuitive.
Maureen Collier: you're used to.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, and I mean
Maureen Collier: So
Mildred Bennett: d
Sharon Williams: And uh even the scroll, it's a it's a new technology so m m
Maureen Collier: Might
Sharon Williams: might
Maureen Collier: be
Sharon Williams: be a little more difficult for people to get used to in the beginni so it is kind of not very intuitive but uh it's a good technology,
Maureen Collier: But it
Sharon Williams: I mean
Maureen Collier: and
Sharon Williams: once
Maureen Collier: it's
Sharon Williams: they
Maureen Collier: something
Sharon Williams: get used
Maureen Collier: that
Sharon Williams: to it.
Maureen Collier: they will be experiencing in a lot of different places
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: soon.
Mildred Bennett: So,
Sharon Williams: So
Mildred Bennett: should
Sharon Williams: l
Mildred Bennett: we maybe say f a five
Maureen Collier: Five?
Mildred Bennett: and say it is intuitive, but it's different, so,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: do you know, I mean it's obvious how to use it, but you might have to think about it first. So we give that one a five, you
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: think?
Sharon Williams: okay.
Maureen Collier: I'm
Mildred Bennett: Yep.
Maureen Collier: happy
Sharon Williams: I'm
Maureen Collier: with five?
Sharon Williams: gonna
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: give a seven in everything, so.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: I'm glad you're accepting this. It has taken a little while, hasn't it? Um intuitive but
Mildred Bennett: it's really hard to write on those. I just
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Mildred Bennett: went a bit mad, didn't I? Um okay, cool, E_, okay. Um I would guess this comes back from this whole B_ thing links in here, so possibly for left-handed. Investigate.
Maureen Collier: Yep. But otherwise it's superb.
Mildred Bennett: So, should we give it a six?
Maureen Collier: Six.
Mildred Bennett: Six?
Linda Jones: Um uh the ergonom ergonomic design well
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: mm I mean I d uh I dunno, I mean the the repetitive stress things, but then who would be really pushing the buttons so much on the on the remote control anyway,
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah?
Sharon Williams: Yeah, unless
Linda Jones: See.
Sharon Williams: you are a all the time sitting.
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: so it's kinda
Maureen Collier: Well we've
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: banned
Mildred Bennett: I
Sharon Williams: I
Mildred Bennett: used
Maureen Collier: them
Sharon Williams: I think
Maureen Collier: from
Mildred Bennett: to send
Sharon Williams: it is
Mildred Bennett: fifty
Sharon Williams: ergonomic.
Mildred Bennett: texts a day, you know, and I never got repetitive strain injury from
Sharon Williams: Mm
Mildred Bennett: that, so
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: I find it quite hard to believe to be honest.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: And moreover it it has um L_C_D_ and everything, so that
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: uh you know
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: uh we minimise
Maureen Collier: it's varied.
Sharon Williams: the pressing of the buttons anyway.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, so
Maureen Collier: Six?
Mildred Bennett: we give that a six, yeah. Okay, F_.
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: Voice
Linda Jones: it
Maureen Collier: control
Linda Jones: does have
Maureen Collier: have seven.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: Absolutely.
Mildred Bennett: Hang on, how come it's showing up with the things there but it only had bullet points there? That's
Maureen Collier: Ah,
Mildred Bennett: just
Maureen Collier: that's the second one. So you must have changed it on this one where it's got score, but not on the previous slide.
Mildred Bennett: Oh okay, cool. Um right, so.
Sharon Williams: So it has voice control.
Mildred Bennett: Yes, so that's a seven then.
Sharon Williams: Yep.
Mildred Bennett: Um,
Maureen Collier: G_
Mildred Bennett: cool.
Sharon Williams: Anyway
Linda Jones: Technologi
Maureen Collier: technologically
Sharon Williams: it ha
Maureen Collier: innovative.
Sharon Williams: yeah,
Linda Jones: well
Sharon Williams: it's the most sophisticated remote that I ever seen.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: But in terms of the actual technology, none of it is actually new.
Linda Jones: well, which
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: is yeah,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Linda Jones: it's kind
Mildred Bennett: but
Linda Jones: of
Mildred Bennett: I
Linda Jones: new.
Mildred Bennett: mean you
Maureen Collier: All
Mildred Bennett: don't
Maureen Collier: of the components have been used in other things before.
Linda Jones: But
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Linda Jones: at
Sharon Williams: but
Linda Jones: the same
Sharon Williams: they've been
Linda Jones: time
Sharon Williams: brought
Mildred Bennett: They're
Sharon Williams: together
Mildred Bennett: never
Linda Jones: they are all
Maureen Collier: But
Mildred Bennett: been
Sharon Williams: in
Maureen Collier: do
Mildred Bennett: used
Sharon Williams: a remote.
Linda Jones: they are all
Maureen Collier: yeah,
Mildred Bennett: i
Linda Jones: relatively new.
Mildred Bennett: they've
Maureen Collier: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: never been using remote remote control before I don't think.
Maureen Collier: Yeah. What do you reckon, five, six?
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, what do you all think?
Linda Jones: Six.
Mildred Bennett: Six?
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: I mean how how far can you go with a remote control, really?
Mildred Bennett: Well, that's
Linda Jones: It
Mildred Bennett: it,
Linda Jones: still
Mildred Bennett: I mean
Linda Jones: has to do what i what it has to do.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, but I mean everything has been used in space before it gets to anyone else really, hasn't it? So, I don't think many
Maureen Collier: Space
Mildred Bennett: peop
Maureen Collier: remote.
Mildred Bennett: That's it, they can take it with them.
Maureen Collier: Put fashion in electronics.
Sharon Williams: Absolutely.
Linda Jones: Yeah, isn't it fashionable? Yeah, sure.
Sharon Williams: The carrot banana
Linda Jones: It's the maximum
Sharon Williams: remote.
Linda Jones: fashion.
Mildred Bennett: So, we give it seven,
Linda Jones: Fruit
Mildred Bennett: and
Linda Jones: fruit
Mildred Bennett: we write
Linda Jones: and vegetables are fashionable these days, so.
Mildred Bennett: There we go.
Linda Jones: So
Sharon Williams: I
Linda Jones: I think
Sharon Williams: think that's
Linda Jones: we've
Sharon Williams: a.
Linda Jones: done very well, but
Mildred Bennett: Cool.
Maureen Collier: Very good.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: What's the assessment?
Mildred Bennett: So, we need the average here, so we got
Linda Jones: The average is about six and something.
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: A little bit over
Maureen Collier: one.
Linda Jones: six.
Mildred Bennett: Seven
Maureen Collier: Or a seven.
Sharon Williams: There are how many sixes?
Linda Jones: No,
Mildred Bennett: So we've
Linda Jones: wait,
Mildred Bennett: got
Sharon Williams: One,
Mildred Bennett: four
Linda Jones: a
Mildred Bennett: sevens,
Sharon Williams: two,
Linda Jones: little bit under
Sharon Williams: three.
Linda Jones: six.
Mildred Bennett: so that's twenty
Linda Jones: No, wait.
Mildred Bennett: eight,
Sharon Williams: Three.
Mildred Bennett: three sixes,
Sharon Williams: And one five.
Mildred Bennett: eighteen.
Linda Jones: Oh, three sixes, okay,
Maureen Collier: Fifty
Sharon Williams: Okay,
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: twenty
Maureen Collier: one,
Sharon Williams: eight, thirty
Maureen Collier: one,
Sharon Williams: eight,
Maureen Collier: two,
Sharon Williams: fo
Maureen Collier: three, four,
Sharon Williams: forty
Linda Jones: Four
Maureen Collier: five,
Linda Jones: sevens.
Maureen Collier: six,
Sharon Williams: six.
Maureen Collier: seven, eight.
Sharon Williams: Forty six and five,
Maureen Collier: Six
Sharon Williams: fifty one.
Maureen Collier: point
Sharon Williams: Fifty one divided
Linda Jones: Six
Sharon Williams: by
Linda Jones: point something,
Maureen Collier: point
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Two
Maureen Collier: about
Mildred Bennett: three
Maureen Collier: six point five.
Linda Jones: Six
Mildred Bennett: four
Linda Jones: point five,
Mildred Bennett: Seven
Maureen Collier: Close
Mildred Bennett: eight.
Maureen Collier: enough.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, that's pretty good, I think.
Maureen Collier: Now wait until we get to finance and then we'll see if we can afford it. That's all you've got at the moment, or did you have anything more?
Mildred Bennett: Um no, that's
Maureen Collier: That's
Mildred Bennett: it,
Maureen Collier: it?
Mildred Bennett: yeah.
Maureen Collier: Alright. So, finance. And we'll see if we can unscrew this first.
Mildred Bennett: Cool,
Maureen Collier: Sorry, this
Mildred Bennett: there
Maureen Collier: is
Mildred Bennett: we go.
Maureen Collier: I'm just um
Mildred Bennett: There we go and there are the marks.
Maureen Collier: Beautiful.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Not anymore.
Sharon Williams: Mm I guess it'll have to wait for a bit.
Maureen Collier: Adjusting. There we go. Okay, so we've looked at the prototype presentation and the evaluation criteria. And now we have to calculate the production costs. So I've got an Excel spreadsheet to help us do that. Can you read that? Almost. More or less. Um I started filling it in, but of course these are provisional, so we have to go down. No hand dynamo, right?
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: One simple
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Maureen Collier: battery. No kinetic energy, no solar. The chip, we're going for an advanced
Sharon Williams: Advanced,
Maureen Collier: chip
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Maureen Collier: on print. We also said the sample sensor and sample speaker.
Linda Jones: Yep.
Maureen Collier: Um single-curved surface, so that
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: we can fold
Linda Jones: yes.
Maureen Collier: it. Case material we said rubber.
Linda Jones: Rubber.
Sharon Williams: Yep.
Maureen Collier: I don't know what special colour means.
Sharon Williams: Mm anything uh I think which
Linda Jones: I
Sharon Williams: is
Linda Jones: think
Sharon Williams: not
Linda Jones: something
Sharon Williams: more.
Linda Jones: coloured, yeah, probably. So I think this is probably special co
Maureen Collier: It
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: no?
Maureen Collier: could be
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, but rubber comes coloured,
Maureen Collier: Rub
Mildred Bennett: doesn't
Maureen Collier: rubber
Mildred Bennett: it? You
Maureen Collier: comes
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: know.
Maureen Collier: coloured, it's I would maybe it's like if you want titanium coloured or wood
Linda Jones: Or
Maureen Collier: coloured,
Linda Jones: maybe
Maureen Collier: it's
Linda Jones: maybe
Maureen Collier: different.
Linda Jones: if you want some kind of pattern thing on it,
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: yeah
Maureen Collier: let's leave
Linda Jones: yeah,
Maureen Collier: it as zero,
Linda Jones: okay.
Maureen Collier: 'cause it's easy.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, you might end up having to take off
Maureen Collier: We
Mildred Bennett: the
Maureen Collier: we're definitely going to
Linda Jones: We
Maureen Collier: have
Linda Jones: have
Maureen Collier: to
Linda Jones: pushbuttons,
Maureen Collier: so
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Maureen Collier: we've
Mildred Bennett: sample
Maureen Collier: got pushbutton,
Mildred Bennett: sensor.
Maureen Collier: and then
Linda Jones: scro
Maureen Collier: we've
Linda Jones: we have scroll wheel as well.
Maureen Collier: Scroll wheel with pushbutton we had, no? S for
Linda Jones: S
Sharon Williams: No
Maureen Collier: the muting.
Linda Jones: yeah,
Sharon Williams: uh we
Linda Jones: yeah,
Sharon Williams: we
Linda Jones: we had,
Sharon Williams: have uh
Linda Jones: for muting,
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: And we have L_C_ display and yeah.
Maureen Collier: And button supplements.
Linda Jones: Um
Sharon Williams: Mm no.
Mildred Bennett: No.
Sharon Williams: We
Maureen Collier: No.
Sharon Williams: don't have we're not using any
Maureen Collier: No?
Sharon Williams: of
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: that.
Linda Jones: but what do we ha we have L_C_ display, but but the wh
Maureen Collier: But
Linda Jones: but
Maureen Collier: the
Linda Jones: the
Maureen Collier: the
Linda Jones: s
Maureen Collier: spinning wheel's
Linda Jones: spinning
Maureen Collier: not
Linda Jones: wheel
Maureen Collier: there. I have think
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: maybe it's integrated with the L_C_ display?
Linda Jones: Okay,
Mildred Bennett: We've got
Linda Jones: let's
Mildred Bennett: more than one pushbutton though,
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: haven't we?
Maureen Collier: I think the pushbutton oh.
Mildred Bennett: 'Cause then you have
Maureen Collier: I don't know if that's one
Mildred Bennett: That means you can only have twenty five push buttons in total doesn't it? Not counting anything, we'd
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: still be in budget.
Maureen Collier: That seems unlikely. Push
Sharon Williams: Huh? Wh wh what
Maureen Collier: what
Sharon Williams: is the limit?
Maureen Collier: uh
Sharon Williams: Uh.
Mildred Bennett: Twelve
Maureen Collier: whether
Mildred Bennett: point five.
Maureen Collier: whether pushbutton means that
Linda Jones: We have to count
Maureen Collier: p
Linda Jones: all
Maureen Collier: count
Linda Jones: of them, or
Maureen Collier: by
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: button or do
Sharon Williams: Mm
Maureen Collier: we
Sharon Williams: I
Maureen Collier: I
Sharon Williams: don't
Maureen Collier: don't think
Sharon Williams: think
Maureen Collier: that
Sharon Williams: so,
Maureen Collier: makes sense.
Sharon Williams: no.
Mildred Bennett: No. Well
Sharon Williams: No
Mildred Bennett: it doesn't,
Sharon Williams: it says
Mildred Bennett: but it
Sharon Williams: what what is the kind
Mildred Bennett: uh
Maureen Collier: No.
Sharon Williams: of interface, if it is pushbutton then you got a zero point five, it's a scroll wheel so we we've put it's pushbutton and
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: scroll wheel
Mildred Bennett: And
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: and L_C_D_
Mildred Bennett: L_C_
Sharon Williams: display,
Mildred Bennett: display.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: so that's that's the three kind of interfaces
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: that we have.
Maureen Collier: So, as we can see, that's way too expensive down here.
Sharon Williams: Wh wh what's
Mildred Bennett: This
Sharon Williams: our
Mildred Bennett: sample
Sharon Williams: criteria?
Maureen Collier: Our budget's
Mildred Bennett: sensor.
Maureen Collier: twelve point five.
Sharon Williams: Uh okay.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, the sample sensor will have to go, 'cause that's the most expensive thing
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: on there.
Maureen Collier: so that has implications though for the.
Sharon Williams: Uh it does not have for voice recognition, but it does have for the feedback speaker. when you
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: say when you press one it says
Maureen Collier: For the
Sharon Williams: one
Maureen Collier: locator.
Sharon Williams: or it says hello.
Mildred Bennett: But that's a bit of a gimmick anyway really,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: isn't
Sharon Williams: Mm
Mildred Bennett: it? We can afford
Sharon Williams: and
Mildred Bennett: to get
Sharon Williams: the
Mildred Bennett: rid
Sharon Williams: locator
Mildred Bennett: of it.
Sharon Williams: also goes away.
Linda Jones: But it was very no innovative
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: So that
Linda Jones: innovativeness.
Mildred Bennett: means no locator,
Linda Jones: Well um
Mildred Bennett: does it?
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: I mean does
Maureen Collier: What else
Linda Jones: Well
Maureen Collier: does
Linda Jones: the speaker
Maureen Collier: it need?
Linda Jones: uh the sample speaker is is expensive, but we could just have some some very very easy device that just beeps.
Maureen Collier: Yeah, 'cause the sample
Linda Jones: This would
Maureen Collier: speaker
Linda Jones: be
Maureen Collier: was, I think, more complicated then
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: just a beeping
Linda Jones: yeah
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah
Maureen Collier: thing.
Linda Jones: there you record your samples
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Linda Jones: your speech samples
Maureen Collier: okay,
Sharon Williams: A also
Linda Jones: and
Maureen Collier: so
Sharon Williams: i
Maureen Collier: we
Sharon Williams: in the case I'm not sure that you will evaluate this as a curved surface, because it's just rubber, so it's probably a flat surface rubber. Uh I mean
Maureen Collier: Uh-huh.
Sharon Williams: uh um
Mildred Bennett: Okay, yeah.
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Maureen Collier: Right,
Sharon Williams: Um
Maureen Collier: so we need one fifty off.
Mildred Bennett: See, I was gonna say the scroll wheel pushbutton thing, 'cause
Maureen Collier: Take it down to just a scroll wheel. We could
Sharon Williams: So
Maureen Collier: do
Sharon Williams: tha that mean that we cannot press
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: how
Linda Jones: then
Sharon Williams: do we how
Linda Jones: then
Sharon Williams: do
Linda Jones: we
Sharon Williams: we
Linda Jones: would
Sharon Williams: make
Linda Jones: be
Sharon Williams: a selection
Linda Jones: in the b budget.
Sharon Williams: in uh in the L_C_D_? If in the L_C_D_ we can scroll, right? But how do we make a selection if we d
Linda Jones: Yeah
Sharon Williams: cannot
Linda Jones: b
Sharon Williams: push
Linda Jones: no
Sharon Williams: the button.
Linda Jones: no, you can push this one, but we don't have a pushbutton uh we ca we don't have this muting mechanism for this scrolling
Mildred Bennett: But
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: that's
Linda Jones: thing.
Mildred Bennett: well you would just have to to spin
Maureen Collier: You can
Mildred Bennett: it down.
Maureen Collier: have to scroll it straight r roll it straight down for
Linda Jones: Mm-hmm.
Maureen Collier: for mute.
Mildred Bennett: So
Sharon Williams: No w
Mildred Bennett: that's
Sharon Williams: w
Mildred Bennett: point
Sharon Williams: w
Mildred Bennett: three.
Sharon Williams: but ha it's it's the scroll wheel and I thought we were referring to this as a scroll spinning wheel and pushbutton thing.
Linda Jones: But I mean we can put an additional mute button on the top as well. If you
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, I mean that wouldn't actually cost any more. That's the spin wheel though, isn't it? Didn't that come with the L_C_
Maureen Collier: That's with the L_C_
Sharon Williams: That comes with the L_C_D_?
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: We decided, 'cause it's not on our list.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Oh so
Linda Jones: Mm.
Sharon Williams: so the the this is.
Maureen Collier: The scroll wheel is on the side.
Sharon Williams: So we're adding costs for right, okay uh I mean I think this is good.
Linda Jones: So
Mildred Bennett: S so we're point three
Maureen Collier: We're
Mildred Bennett: over.
Maureen Collier: point three over at the moment. It's nothing
Mildred Bennett: Unless
Maureen Collier: n
Mildred Bennett: we just take off the scroll wheel altogether and just have pushbuttons for the volume. Could b still put them on the side. But
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: yeah. I mean
Maureen Collier: I
Mildred Bennett: the
Maureen Collier: have
Mildred Bennett: scroll wheel's pretty cool, but
Sharon Williams: Instead of scrolling here we have two buttons here,
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: up for up and down.
Linda Jones: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: On the side.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Mm uh it
Linda Jones: Okay,
Sharon Williams: sounds good actually, yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: Rather than having three different things that people have to do.
Linda Jones: Okay.
Maureen Collier: There we go. Oh look, we're way under budget and we'll make huge profits and we'll all get bonuses.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, well we could admit to the single curve, couldn't we?
Maureen Collier: Or or that we have to have some sort of special colour.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: So
Mildred Bennett: but
Maureen Collier: that's alright. We we'll leave it at that
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: and then I'll take I can send it back to management and say we weren't quite sure about the colour, if that costs extra then we've still got some space for
Sharon Williams: We
Maureen Collier: it,
Sharon Williams: have, yeah.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Excellent. Alright. So did we lose um on our evaluation criteria, as a result
Mildred Bennett: No.
Maureen Collier: of doing that?
Mildred Bennett: No, I don't
Sharon Williams: Not
Mildred Bennett: think so.
Sharon Williams: really, no. Because we keep all the features, we keep voice recognition, we keep L_C_D_
Maureen Collier: Mm.
Sharon Williams: display.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: We
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: instead of having scrolling we we just
Mildred Bennett: We just
Sharon Williams: push
Mildred Bennett: got
Sharon Williams: the buttons.
Mildred Bennett: rid of a gimmick that
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Um
Mildred Bennett: was never anyway, and
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: the scroll wheel is I mean essentially the two buttons that was it's not a great difference I don't
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: think.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Alright then.
Sharon Williams: But we lose the locator.
Mildred Bennett: Really?
Maureen Collier: We're
Linda Jones: Well
Maureen Collier: gonna have a beep.
Linda Jones: we're going to have a beeping thing.
Sharon Williams: So instead of speaker,
Linda Jones: But yeah,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: it's it's not like sample speaker, but it will just beep, so we still have the locate.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: 'Kay.
Mildred Bennett: Cool. That's not a very exciting colour. I think you should make it more vegetable-like.
Linda Jones: Which colour,
Maureen Collier: Tha.
Linda Jones: the the colour of the phone or the colour of the
Mildred Bennett: Oh the the beeper thing.
Linda Jones: But
Mildred Bennett: It
Linda Jones: it can be yellow as well. It can come in the same colour as the
Maureen Collier: 'Cause
Linda Jones: the
Maureen Collier: we
Linda Jones: case.
Maureen Collier: we won't have run out of our pot of Play-Doh.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, I think Jen wants it to vibrate. You know, your pen
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: vibrates?
Maureen Collier: I know I
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: know, my pen vibrates. But only for a very short time. Um okay. So looks like we've designed a banana. Well done, team. Um we need we've just got about ten minutes or so left of the meeting, so it would be good if we could just have a little talk about the project itself and how it went, um so that we can feed back to the management for next time they're designing a product.
Mildred Bennett: Cool.
Maureen Collier: Feedback?
Sharon Williams: I think it mm
Maureen Collier: Ideas?
Linda Jones: Yeah mm, as far as creativity is concerned, yeah I think there was there was room for creativity. The only the only problem being that at the end we had to cut some things down because
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: of the the budget we had.
Sharon Williams: I think uh n one thing that was lacking uh was that we did not know what the various things cost to begin with.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Um we kap kept a adding things randomly.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: So,
Mildred Bennett: If
Sharon Williams: had
Mildred Bennett: we'd
Sharon Williams: we
Mildred Bennett: had
Sharon Williams: known
Mildred Bennett: that sheet at the beginning should've been like, okay, so
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: we can have that lot,
Sharon Williams: that
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Sharon Williams: or not,
Mildred Bennett: let's
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: just
Sharon Williams: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: throw it together
Linda Jones: yeah,
Mildred Bennett: and
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: do what
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: we can.
Sharon Williams: So d all the random decisions at the end could have been
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: prevented. Mm.
Maureen Collier: But in terms of the process of um going and working individually and then coming back to a meeting, that
Sharon Williams: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: that worked
Sharon Williams: mm.
Mildred Bennett: I think 'cause
Maureen Collier: in terms
Mildred Bennett: the meetings
Maureen Collier: of.
Mildred Bennett: were so regular, you know.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: It wasn't like we were alone for very long, so you didn't st go off and think, wouldn't it be great to have a vibrating
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm. Banana.
Mildred Bennett: remote control shaped like a banana, and then, you know, come back three days later and Jen's
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: going look, look, it vibrates and it looks like a banana. Um yeah, so yeah.
Linda Jones: Yeah, the m the means were very very good, the means we used.
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm, the whiteboard digital
Linda Jones: And
Maureen Collier: pens.
Linda Jones: the pens.
Mildred Bennett: Uh
Maureen Collier: We like
Mildred Bennett: I like the
Maureen Collier: the
Mildred Bennett: pens.
Maureen Collier: pens.
Mildred Bennett: I want one. That would just be so cool, to d do all your notes and s
Maureen Collier: Yeah, you could take it to lectures and just write stuff down
Sharon Williams: Yeah
Maureen Collier: and have it printed out
Sharon Williams: yeah
Maureen Collier: when you
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: got back
Sharon Williams: yeah,
Maureen Collier: to the
Linda Jones: yeah.
Maureen Collier: office.
Sharon Williams: that's it's it's
Maureen Collier: They great?
Sharon Williams: I wonder what one of these costs.
Maureen Collier: Do you think they'd notice if one went?
Mildred Bennett: I don't think you should say that was the recording.
Maureen Collier: Oh okay.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, cover up the microphone. Alright,
Maureen Collier: Yep.
Mildred Bennett: let's
Maureen Collier: Shh.
Mildred Bennett: take it.
Maureen Collier: Yep.
Mildred Bennett: Okay.
Maureen Collier: But that worked well having having a whiteboard that we could draw on as well as having the PowerPoint, 'cause the I find that the problem with PowerPoint often is that it's so static and you can't change
Mildred Bennett: It
Maureen Collier: it
Mildred Bennett: is
Maureen Collier: once
Mildred Bennett: a bit
Maureen Collier: you're
Mildred Bennett: limiting,
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: in
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: there,
Mildred Bennett: isn't it? Yeah.
Maureen Collier: yep.
Linda Jones: Yeah, and and and this time also the time limits but actually
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: preparing the
Mildred Bennett: The
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: thing flew in, you didn't have the whole whooshing thing,
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: 'cause there wasn't time for that, so
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: yeah.
Maureen Collier: That's alright, that always irritates
Mildred Bennett: Not
Maureen Collier: Mildred Bennett
Mildred Bennett: that you
Maureen Collier: anyway,
Mildred Bennett: can do that on the board, either.
Maureen Collier: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: We could make some little
Linda Jones: But yeah, but I mean already just just preparing the slides before
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Linda Jones: before
Mildred Bennett: totally,
Linda Jones: the meeting,
Mildred Bennett: I mean that was
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: fairly tight anyway,
Maureen Collier: Mm.
Mildred Bennett: I mean especially with that last-minute alteration.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Mm yeah.
Mildred Bennett: back it, this is just had to be changed. And yeah, so cool.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Are we supposed to say nice things about Jen now?
Maureen Collier: And presumably you don't you can say nasty things as well.
Linda Jones: Yeah. I was
Maureen Collier: I have
Linda Jones: I was
Maureen Collier: no
Linda Jones: satisfied
Maureen Collier: stake in it.
Linda Jones: with with
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Linda Jones: the leadership,
Mildred Bennett: definitely.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: You weren't
Linda Jones: yeah.
Mildred Bennett: like a a dictating leader, so that was always good.
Maureen Collier: You have to say that, 'cause I'm taking the notes.
Linda Jones: Mm-hmm.
Maureen Collier: I'll leave the room and you can
Mildred Bennett: I
Maureen Collier: have
Mildred Bennett: know
Maureen Collier: another
Mildred Bennett: you've got
Maureen Collier: go.
Mildred Bennett: the pen, you might attack Mildred Bennett with
Maureen Collier: Better
Linda Jones: And then
Maureen Collier: than
Linda Jones: the
Maureen Collier: that
Linda Jones: teamwork
Mildred Bennett: it.
Maureen Collier: than the banana.
Linda Jones: I think I think it worked quite
Maureen Collier: I think it
Linda Jones: quite
Maureen Collier: worked
Linda Jones: nicely,
Maureen Collier: quite well.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: Did anyone feel that they were getting sort of covered up and not being able to say
Linda Jones: To express
Maureen Collier: their bit?
Linda Jones: them mm
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Linda Jones: mm
Sharon Williams: I guess
Linda Jones: no.
Sharon Williams: it was a fairly small group, so all of us got
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: to express our opinions, yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: New ideas found. Not
Linda Jones: Well
Maureen Collier: quite
Linda Jones: it's
Maureen Collier: sure
Linda Jones: it's
Maureen Collier: what
Linda Jones: it's
Maureen Collier: about.
Linda Jones: pretty new,
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: pretty
Sharon Williams: Mm.
Linda Jones: novel solution for a for a remote control really, all this flipping
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: open thing and
Mildred Bennett: I don't know, I don't go shopping for remote controls that
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: often, maybe somebody's
Linda Jones: neither neither do
Mildred Bennett: already
Linda Jones: I, but I've
Mildred Bennett: though
Linda Jones: never
Mildred Bennett: of
Linda Jones: seen
Mildred Bennett: it.
Linda Jones: anything and and none of my examples were was was like this, actually,
Maureen Collier: Mm-hmm.
Linda Jones: so.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: Hmm.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah. I'll be looking out next time I need
Maureen Collier: Yeah,
Mildred Bennett: to write
Maureen Collier: that's
Mildred Bennett: an essay.
Maureen Collier: right.
Mildred Bennett: That looks boring, I'll see if anyone's
Linda Jones: Yeah maybe
Mildred Bennett: made
Linda Jones: w
Mildred Bennett: a
Linda Jones: maybe we
Mildred Bennett: remote
Linda Jones: could have
Mildred Bennett: control.
Linda Jones: a patent on this one.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Mildred Bennett: yeah.
Linda Jones: Patent patent patent.
Maureen Collier: Banana
Mildred Bennett: I think we'd
Maureen Collier: remote.
Mildred Bennett: like to
Linda Jones: Mm.
Mildred Bennett: think the ideas were new, but we've got no way of finding out.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: Mm-hmm.
Maureen Collier: Or you can always go to Google and type in banana remote control.
Mildred Bennett: That
Maureen Collier: Flip.
Mildred Bennett: vibrates
Maureen Collier: Vibrate. And uh yeah.
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, but that would just come up with like other things really
Maureen Collier: Nothing
Mildred Bennett: wouldn't it.
Maureen Collier: that you really want. True. Yeah. Okay. So, costs are within budget,
Linda Jones: Yes.
Mildred Bennett: Yes.
Maureen Collier: well within budget, including a little what have we got? One Euro left over for bits that we didn't foresee. Um we've evaluated
Linda Jones: Yes.
Maureen Collier: the project. You've
Mildred Bennett: And it's fabulous.
Maureen Collier: got the scores. Can you put that in the project documents file?
Mildred Bennett: It's in the project
Maureen Collier: It's in
Mildred Bennett: documents.
Maureen Collier: there already. And the process wheel didn't really have any major problems with. Were there any was there anything that you found difficult, or anything that didn't go as smoothly as you'd
Linda Jones: And
Maureen Collier: hope?
Linda Jones: my main difficulty was the the time pressure.
Maureen Collier: Yeah.
Linda Jones: Otherwise
Mildred Bennett: Yeah,
Linda Jones: it's
Sharon Williams: Mm-hmm.
Mildred Bennett: yeah, sometimes
Linda Jones: it's all fine.
Mildred Bennett: it's like a little bit rushed.
Sharon Williams: I thought that was good though, because if you're given too much time
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Sharon Williams: then you got nothing
Linda Jones: yeah,
Sharon Williams: to do with your time and
Linda Jones: yeah.
Sharon Williams: um yeah. Although we could have made the R_s better had we had
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Sharon Williams: five more minute.
Maureen Collier: Okay then. Um I think we're still well within our
Mildred Bennett: Yeah, we've got like
Maureen Collier: time.
Mildred Bennett: five minutes left.
Maureen Collier: We've got about five minutes left, but if we've finished, then we've finished.
Linda Jones: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: We're just too too efficient and
Sharon Williams: We certainly
Mildred Bennett: Yeah.
Maureen Collier: you should
Sharon Williams: are,
Maureen Collier: never
Sharon Williams: mm.
Maureen Collier: drag a meeting on just because you have extra time.
Sharon Williams: Yeah.
Linda Jones: Yes.
Maureen Collier: So I would say that's the end of that meeting.
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: Thank
Mildred Bennett: 'Kay.
Linda Jones: it
Maureen Collier: you,
Linda Jones: was a
Maureen Collier: team.
Linda Jones: pleasure working with you.
Maureen Collier: It was
Sharon Williams: Yeah, same here.
Maureen Collier: very productive day
Mildred Bennett: We
Maureen Collier: and
Mildred Bennett: could draw animals on the board again.
Sharon Williams: Mm uh no.
Maureen Collier: Mm uh
Sharon Williams: I don't
Maureen Collier: no.
Sharon Williams: think so.
Linda Jones: You can make some animals.
Mildred Bennett: I
Linda Jones: Oh,
Mildred Bennett: don't
Linda Jones: you
Mildred Bennett: like
Linda Jones: don't
Mildred Bennett: Play-Doh,
Linda Jones: like
Mildred Bennett: no.
Linda Jones: anim
Mildred Bennett: It's just minging. It smells so bad.
Linda Jones: It doesn't?
Mildred Bennett: It
Linda Jones: Smells
Mildred Bennett: does.
Linda Jones: quite nice. Smells very sweet.
Mildred Bennett: Mm.
Maureen Collier: Right, so we have to complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary when they
Sharon Williams: Was there a
Maureen Collier: send
Sharon Williams: questionnaire
Maureen Collier: it.
Sharon Williams: already sent?
Maureen Collier: I don't know if it's already sent or
Mildred Bennett: No,
Maureen Collier: not.
Mildred Bennett: it hasn't been.
Maureen Collier: Um presumably I
Mildred Bennett: Do
Maureen Collier: have
Mildred Bennett: we have
Maureen Collier: to
Mildred Bennett: to go back into the other room or can we stay in here now?
Maureen Collier: I don't see why you can't stay here, really.
Mildred Bennett: Okay, so the other way.
Maureen Collier: Did I save this one? Production costs.
Linda Jones: I made your animal for you.
Maureen Collier: It was supposed to be pink.
Linda Jones: Yeah,
Maureen Collier: But
Linda Jones: that's
Maureen Collier: it was blue
Linda Jones: the
Maureen Collier: on
Linda Jones: one
Maureen Collier: the board. | Maureen Collier opens this detailed design meeting by going over the agenda. The designers present the prototype, which they decided to make the color and shape of a banana. They demonstrate the remote components, showing how it flips open on the side and features a LCD and scroll inside. Mildred Bennett gives the product evaluation, which is based on the criteria of attractiveness, whether it matches operation behavior of the user, locatability, intuitiveness, ergonomic design, and how technologically innovative it is. They rate the product using a 7 point scale and come up with an average score of 6.5. The group goes on to calculate the production cost and finds they are over the budget. They have discussion and decide to eliminate the sample speaker locator and the scroll wheel inside. The team discusses the project process- saying that they had to cut out some creativity in order to meet the budget because they had not known the cost of features beforehand. They were satisfied with the leadership but felt rushed for time. They finish the meeting 5 minutes early and Maureen Collier tells them what is left to complete. | 2 | amisum | test |
Wanda Morris: Okay. Hi everybody and welcome to our kick-off meeting for our new product that we're gonna be designing. Um I'm Mandy and I'm Wanda Morris. And I know all your names again, Courtney,
Viviana West: Yep.
Wanda Morris: Fenella and Amber.
Christi Taylor: Yep.
Wanda Morris: Alright. Okay, so first let's go through this PowerPoint. I wonder what button I press?
Hollis Shea: Just do it on the arrow.
Wanda Morris: Yeah, or how about I just click? Okay, here is our agenda for this meeting. Um we're gonna start with our opening which was our introductions. We're gonna know other a bit better. Um tool training, we're going to, I guess, figure out what to do on this project with our individual roles. Um we're gonna make a project plan and then have some time for discussion and close up the meeting. Okay, here is our project. We're gonna make a new remote control that's um original, trendy and also user-friendly. And how we are going to do it is each of us is going to um We're gonna have discuss the functional design first, how is it gonna be used, what's the actual goal here, it has to operate T_V_, blah blah blah. And we're going to do individual work on that and then meet. Same thing with conceptual design. Just the basic overview of the project and then we're going to do individual work, meet. That's pretty much the the whole process for today. And then the detailed design, just more in-depth, get the actual schematics of the remote. Okay. Alright. First we're gonna start off by using our tools. And the whiteboard thing, do you guys wanna give that a try even though the ink wasn't working or do you wanna do it on here.
Christi Taylor: I think we should forgo the
Viviana West: We
Christi Taylor: can't
Viviana West: could
Christi Taylor: actually see what we're.
Viviana West: Yeah, we could on.
Wanda Morris: Alright, let's go forward then. Um right now so we're all gonna draw our favourite animal and then sum up our favourite characteristics of that animal. Even if you are not a good drawer like Viviana West. Alright.
Christi Taylor: Artistic skills, nil.
Hollis Shea: Fine.
Wanda Morris: Um.
Wanda Morris: Bless you.
Viviana West: Oh, thanks.
Christi Taylor: I draw like I'm in grade five.
Wanda Morris: Oh do I.
Wanda Morris: 'Kay, about one more minute.
Wanda Morris: Okay. Okay. And who would like to start us off?
Viviana West: I'll go.
Wanda Morris: Alright.
Viviana West: Um this is my picture. I drew fish I like fish, because uh, you know, their whole water-vascular system thing. It's pretty cool, and um they've got a pretty good habitat and they are pretty sometimes, sometimes vicious but that's okay. Yeah.
Wanda Morris: Only if they're piranhas.
Viviana West: Yeah, they they're easy, you know. Yeah.
Wanda Morris: Alright. Who wants to go next?
Christi Taylor: I'll go. I drew a kitty. It's pretty much impossible to tell that's a cat, but
Viviana West: No I
Hollis Shea: No,
Christi Taylor: I
Viviana West: I
Hollis Shea: I kne
Viviana West: see
Christi Taylor: love
Hollis Shea: I
Viviana West: it.
Wanda Morris: No,
Hollis Shea: knew.
Christi Taylor: cats.
Wanda Morris: it looks like a cat.
Christi Taylor: I love cats because they're independent, uh they pretty much know what they want, they get it, they move on.
Wanda Morris: I love cats, too.
Hollis Shea: Yeah.
Wanda Morris: I'm a cat person.
Viviana West: I'm allergic to cats.
Hollis Shea: Ah.
Wanda Morris: Uh.
Christi Taylor: I'm allergic to cats, too.
Viviana West: Oh, okay.
Wanda Morris: If
Hollis Shea: In
Wanda Morris: you're
Hollis Shea: my next
Wanda Morris: around one
Hollis Shea: life.
Wanda Morris: I had a roommate who was um allergic, but if she was around my cat forever she became used to
Viviana West: Yeah,
Wanda Morris: it, you
Viviana West: yeah,
Wanda Morris: know,
Viviana West: if you're
Wanda Morris: it's weird.
Viviana West: around them for a long period of time
Christi Taylor: I still
Wanda Morris: Okay.
Christi Taylor: can't sleep with them in my room.
Viviana West: Oh, yeah, this summer I, oh I had to live with cats. It was crazy. Yeah.
Wanda Morris: Okay, Fenella?
Hollis Shea: Um, I drew a badger.
Viviana West: Cool.
Christi Taylor: Yay.
Wanda Morris: Badger.
Hollis Shea: Well, yeah.
Wanda Morris: Good choice. Why a
Hollis Shea: Uh
Wanda Morris: badger?
Hollis Shea: I dunno, they're grumpy and nocturnal and
Christi Taylor: Are you trying to suggest something?
Hollis Shea: Well, a little bit like the Yes. Um. And then, if you know Wind in the Willows badger.
Viviana West: Oh, okay.
Hollis Shea: Yeah and then uh I don't know if you know Brian.
Wanda Morris: Alright.
Hollis Shea: Um, that kind of books. Badgers are cool in that one too.
Wanda Morris: Okay. And I'm last. 'Kay. Look at my sad sad
Viviana West: No,
Wanda Morris: giraffe.
Viviana West: that's good.
Wanda Morris: No, no, no, it ends up looking like some kind of a dinosaur, but whatever. I don't know even much about giraffes, but I just love the way they look. They're just such odd creatures, you know. I I like that they're so unique and individual, I guess. I don't know much about their behaviour or anything, though. Only seen a couple
Viviana West: You
Wanda Morris: in
Viviana West: don't
Wanda Morris: zoos.
Viviana West: really have to, I
Wanda Morris: Yeah,
Viviana West: mean,
Wanda Morris: but you can
Viviana West: if you
Wanda Morris: appreciate
Viviana West: like 'em
Wanda Morris: the way they look. Okay. Alright. Guess we're getting straight back into business here. Um the selling price for our remote is going to be twenty-five Euro, and our profit aim is fifty million Euro. We're going to make this an international product marketed in the States, in Europe, in Asia. And um our production cost to make that profit is gonna be a max of twelve fifty Euro per remote. Okay. So we're gonna talk for a little while. Um here are some topics that we might be able to discuss. Expe our experiences with remote controls um, our first ideas about this new remote, anything that you can bring to the table for this project. So.
Hollis Shea: Now?
Wanda Morris: Yeah. You wanna start us off? Anybody have anything to offer?
Christi Taylor: Well, we wanna make a multifunctional remote, right?
Wanda Morris: Right.
Christi Taylor: One remote for everything.
Hollis Shea: And
Viviana West: Right.
Hollis Shea: everything being Wait,
Christi Taylor: Um.
Hollis Shea: we have what, sound system, T_V_, D_V_D_, V_H_S_, uh
Christi Taylor: I think they'll be phasing
Hollis Shea: TiVo?
Christi Taylor: V_H_S_
Viviana West: Yeah, TiVo.
Christi Taylor: out shortly.
Wanda Morris: TiVo.
Hollis Shea: But it's still there, so
Christi Taylor: Okay.
Hollis Shea: if po if we're gonna do it
Viviana West: It needs to be compatible 'cause universal remote controls are never universal.
Wanda Morris: They're never universal. That's right. Esp e especially if you buy a a not big product, D_V_D_ player, say, usually it doesn't work
Hollis Shea: Or if
Wanda Morris: if
Hollis Shea: it's
Wanda Morris: it's
Hollis Shea: not
Wanda Morris: not
Hollis Shea: like a
Wanda Morris: one
Hollis Shea: Sony,
Wanda Morris: of the
Hollis Shea: if it's like
Wanda Morris: Yeah.
Hollis Shea: a I
Wanda Morris: Yeah.
Hollis Shea: don't know.
Wanda Morris: Something
Christi Taylor: So
Wanda Morris: from
Christi Taylor: we'll have
Wanda Morris: Sam's
Christi Taylor: to figure
Wanda Morris: club.
Christi Taylor: it how to cover all the different variances in signals.
Wanda Morris: Yeah.
Viviana West: And what we need an insanely good instruction booklet, because you always have to reconfigure all your
Wanda Morris: Yeah.
Viviana West: contraptions to go with the remote anyways.
Wanda Morris: 'Kay, and um another thing that I think is important is the d the design of the product, how it feels in your hand. If it's just flat and kind of boring th those don't Nobody wants to buy those any more. They want the ergonomic ones.
Viviana West: They want like the flashy
Wanda Morris: Yeah.
Viviana West: lights. Oh like this came
Wanda Morris: Ones
Viviana West: from Las
Wanda Morris: that
Viviana West: Vegas.
Wanda Morris: ones that look high-tech, too.
Hollis Shea: But at the same time are simple.
Viviana West: Mm
Wanda Morris: Right.
Viviana West: yeah.
Wanda Morris: So that
Christi Taylor: What
Wanda Morris: people
Christi Taylor: about something
Wanda Morris: like my mother
Christi Taylor: with the curvature
Wanda Morris: can use it.
Christi Taylor: like that matches the curvature of a hand?
Wanda Morris: Yeah. 'Kay. Anybody have any experiences with remote controls that they can remember that
Hollis Shea: Just bad ones.
Wanda Morris: Yeah. That's true.
Hollis Shea: Um.
Christi Taylor: What kinda battery would we want to use? Because battery
Hollis Shea: D
Christi Taylor: changing is
Hollis Shea: Double
Christi Taylor: usually
Hollis Shea: A_.
Viviana West: Double A_.
Christi Taylor: Okay.
Wanda Morris: Do some of them use triple A_s though?
Viviana West: Yeah some use triple A_s.
Hollis Shea: Some
Viviana West: So
Wanda Morris: Okay.
Hollis Shea: but
Viviana West: double or triple?
Hollis Shea: Yeah, I guess then it's If we need to do triple A_ we can, but most people usually have double A_s around.
Wanda Morris: Okay. Yeah. But that has to do with the size of it too.
Hollis Shea: Right.
Christi Taylor: Yeah.
Wanda Morris: Well, w as long as we know that issue is
Viviana West: Yeah, if we
Wanda Morris: Here
Viviana West: want it
Wanda Morris: we
Viviana West: to
Wanda Morris: can
Viviana West: be more thin, then we'd probably wanna go with a triple
Wanda Morris: Triple
Viviana West: A_.
Wanda Morris: A.
Christi Taylor: Can
Wanda Morris: But
Christi Taylor: you with a small lithium battery?
Wanda Morris: it's okay, we don't have to decide about it now, just as long as we remember battery type and size is important. Hey. Anything else? Alright. Moving along. Oh, we're closing the meeting. Next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes. Um the I_D_, which is who? Okay, you're going to think about the working design. What do you think that means? Okay. And U_I_D_,
Hollis Shea: Mm-hmm.
Wanda Morris: the technical fun functions design, making sure it does everything that we need the remote to do, the functionality of it, operating all those different things. Okay. And the marketing person, that's Courtney, is going to do the user requirements specification. I guess that means specifying um what exactly the user is going to be looking for. Right?
Viviana West: Right.
Wanda Morris: I would think so. Okay. And you're gonna get more specific instructions emailed to you in just a little while. Okay, so does anybody have anything they wanna say before we close the meeting? Okay. This meeting is officially over. | Wanda Morris introduced the project to the group and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. She then introduced a tool training exercise to acquaint the group with the meeting-room tools and to help them get to know each other. Wanda Morris then presented the project budget to the group and presented the projected profit aim, the production cost, and the price point of the device. The group then began a discussion about features of remote controls and their own experiences with them. They discussed making the remote universally compatible and ergonomically-designed, and types of batteries to use. Wanda Morris instructed Christi Taylor to work on the internal working design of the device. Hollis Shea was told to work on the technical function design, and Viviana West was instructed to research the needs of users. | 2 | amisum | test |
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: 'Kay so we'll try to zip through this, since we're short on time. Welcome everybody. Um hope your sessions went well. Um so this is our functional design meeting, we're going to consider um user needs, technical effects, and the working design of our remote control. Um I've been taking meetings on the minute minutes on the meetings, and I'll be putting them in the shared documents folder so if there's anything you need to refer to you can find them in there. Um I'll get the ones up for next time, um they're not finished yet. Right. Um so can we have updates from everyone from what you've worked on just kind of a quick summary of anything interesting that you'd like to share
Alyssa Lee: And I can
Donna Hogsett: or discuss
Alyssa Lee: start if
Donna Hogsett: in
Alyssa Lee: you
Donna Hogsett: this
Alyssa Lee: want.
Donna Hogsett: sure.
Alyssa Lee: Is there an order? No. We haven't
Donna Hogsett: Hm?
Alyssa Lee: decided on an order.
Donna Hogsett: No,
Alyssa Lee: First.
Donna Hogsett: any any order's fine.
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: Um, how do I put this
Linda Boone: Just
Alyssa Lee: I'll just
Linda Boone: uh
Alyssa Lee: put the cable in.
Donna Hogsett: Oh yeah, sorry.
Alyssa Lee: Is that it? Can you see? Oh, here. Okay. So what happens it doesn't work?
Donna Hogsett: It sh it takes a few seconds I think.
Linda Boone: You may need to
Kelly Christman: Who's that?
Alyssa Lee: No. Is it in the
Linda Boone: But
Alyssa Lee: right
Linda Boone: sometimes
Alyssa Lee: thing?
Linda Boone: you have to do it it's like a three set setting cycle, so press it a couple times, hold down function and then press
Alyssa Lee: Oh wait,
Linda Boone: F_ eight.
Alyssa Lee: um. Uh. You need to help Alyssa Lee.
Donna Hogsett: Uh-huh, and then press function.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: and F_ eight.
Kelly Christman: Could you just plug it back into hers because
Alyssa Lee: Oh,
Kelly Christman: she had
Alyssa Lee: wait.
Kelly Christman: oh.
Alyssa Lee: is that it?
Linda Boone: Adjusting.
Donna Hogsett: Here we are.
Linda Boone: The cable might be a little loose or something.
Alyssa Lee: Right
Linda Boone: Oh,
Alyssa Lee: here we
Linda Boone: you got
Alyssa Lee: are.
Linda Boone: it.
Donna Hogsett: Oh. Is it on?
Alyssa Lee: We're here.
Donna Hogsett: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: Okay, um. In order to see what the functional requirements were to be found, um a hundred people were tested in a usability laboratory through just their habits to n know their habits were observed and questionnaires were given out. Um, the findings in in some cases matched what we were talking about. Custome Customers and users don't like the way remote controls look, they don't like the way they feel, they don't think they match their operating behaviour, and an example is what we were talking about, the buttons, they only use ten per cent of the buttons, so later on there's a study of the buttons that they use most and I think we should design according to these buttons. Easy to lose, and R_S_I_. I don't know what R_S_I_ means. Um the person that did the questionnaire obviously did, I don't have a
Donna Hogsett: Hm.
Alyssa Lee: clue. Um, according to the frequency of use and the relevance of each buttons, I have made a list of the buttons that we should focus on in order of importance. So the most important buttons are those to do with channel selection. They're used about a hundred and sixty times per hour. And um yeah so and and people like to zap a lot apparently, so this is the order. Channel selection, teletext, volume, and power. The other ones are the settings, and they're used less than you know zero point eight to zero point five times per hour, and this means that I think we can we could have like a a button for all the settings, and then, just one, and then from there go on to the audio on the screen, either on the remote or on the television. Um, about the screen, and speech recognition, some people are more willing than others to actually pay for that. And if we look at the market, f people from well from fifteen to thirty five year old year olds, I don't really know how to describe this, um ninety one to seventy six percent of people in that age range are willing to pay more for this sort of product, while people that are above thirty five years ol um years old go from thirty five percent to eight percent, so people that are sixty five for example wouldn't actually pay for this sort of thing. Um I don't I don't know um what the decision to be made is, but I think that the people that actually do buy remotes m more are those like teenagers and young professionals and um, most likely, but we should discuss this together. And that's all I have to say about the matter,
Donna Hogsett: 'Kay.
Alyssa Lee: um. Shall I what do I do? Do I give this to someone else?
Donna Hogsett: Yeah. Just move right on.
Kelly Christman: Right. So get this.
Kelly Christman: Okay so now I need to press F_ eight, what is it?
Donna Hogsett: Uh function
Alyssa Lee: Function
Donna Hogsett: F_
Alyssa Lee: F_
Donna Hogsett: eight.
Alyssa Lee: eight.
Kelly Christman: 'Kay. What's function?
Donna Hogsett: It's the little blue w it's
Kelly Christman: Oh
Donna Hogsett: the
Kelly Christman: function,
Donna Hogsett: one
Kelly Christman: I
Donna Hogsett: th
Kelly Christman: see
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Kelly Christman: it. There we go.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah should be It should be yeah.
Kelly Christman: Okay. Um. This my presentation about the uh technical functions design and I basically just tried to focus on um just what what functions we need and how to make that the best function for the user. So uh and I just sort of like thought about it myself and looked on the internet. And okay so basically um I think i uh like it is really important that we sort of get this done in a user friendly and fashionable way. Um so I think things like uh you know keeping buttons together that like close together that um are used in the same way, uh or um maybe that making 'em the same colour, keeping the number of buttons the uh leas you know to a minimum, and also things like is it is it um is it uh can you c y small enough large enough I'm not sure we c I guess we would need to do some research about, I would, about what size is appropriate and that sort of thing, um but basically we need to make sure that it turns on and off the T_V_. Does it have like capacity to change the channels? Um does it do or do we need to have like functions for cable or V_C_R_? And then, is it findable, and uh how do we wanna do that? And um I just thought that these two remotes were pretty boring, um I dunno if this will work but And I think we can find something that's more fun to look at and use than either of those. Just I mean I like the one on the right better, just because it does have fewer buttons, uh but I mean I think we sh can sort of think about things like um like colour and you know size, shapes, that sort of thing, to best fit the user. That concludes my presentation. Okay. You need the little thingy.
Kelly Christman: Ooh.
Linda Boone: How do I um
Alyssa Lee: S
Alyssa Lee: That's on view. Oh.
Linda Boone: Right. Okay so this is on the working design, which is sort of the uh mechanical functions of the remote, um and the method I used was to basically look at and incorporate ideas from our last meeting. Um so I think we need two basic functions which is just the basic remote functions, the user can input a channel or volume setting and it will be output to the T_V_. And also we talked about um a location function where maybe you could press a button on the T_V_ and it would send sort of signal to the remote where it would beep or flash or vibrate or whatever to tell you where the remote is. So the components we need are an energy source to power the remote, um input which would probably be buttons, although um we just talked about voice recognition, processor to take the information, um something to transmit it to the T_V_, and we also need something on the remote that would receive the location signal and have an output, like possibly a beep or a vibration. And also you need a sender for location signal, which would probably be a separate um thing that we'd have to sell with the remote and people could stick it on their T_V_ or stick it on their wall. And this is just sort of an overview of how the remote works. Power comes from the battery, goes to the chip, um and then it is sent from there to an infrared bulb which is probably the easiest way to send to the T_V_. And then for the location function, you would have a sender on the T_V_ which would output some sort of signal, um we could use I_R_ but we'd probably wanna use radio instead. That signal would go to a receiver which it would process it, and it would be output in the form of a buzzer or a light lighting up. Um so my personal preferences for how to build the remote would probably be uh, battery for the energy source, that way you wouldn't have to plug it in, um a button pad for input, um we can purchase a pre-made chip which will handle all the processing stuff, I_R_ transmitter to communicate to the T_V_, that's just sort of standard, um so most T_V_s have an I_R_ receiver. Probably a radio receiver to send out location function and to receive it and I'd probably say a buzzer for the location function on the remote itself. So that concludes my presentation.
Donna Hogsett: 'Kay.
Kelly Christman: Do you know about like I dunno,
Linda Boone: Mm?
Kelly Christman: you seem like you know about
Linda Boone: Yeah, uh I d I was an engineer
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Linda Boone: before I came here.
Kelly Christman: Cool.
Donna Hogsett: Okay. Well thank you everybody. Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in. Um, teletext is apparently outdated, so due to internet popularity, so that's off the list. Um, also our remote should be used only for television, um, no extra internet kinda fancy things, just the remote and the television. Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this, so um the phrase is, we put fashion in electronics, so let's be fashionable I guess. Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours, so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw, and yellow writing, something like that. Okay. Um. So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions. Um, yeah. Do Let's I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming,
Kelly Christman: Like
Donna Hogsett: see
Kelly Christman: in terms
Donna Hogsett: what we can
Kelly Christman: of
Alyssa Lee: How it looks
Kelly Christman: how
Alyssa Lee: or
Kelly Christman: it looks, or like what
Donna Hogsett: wha
Kelly Christman: it does?
Donna Hogsett: what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: and I dunno the the s the buttons and what it does and
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: that sort of thing.
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: So.
Kelly Christman: So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button? So
Donna Hogsett: I think that
Linda Boone: It's
Donna Hogsett: seems
Linda Boone: easy to
Donna Hogsett: to
Linda Boone: implement.
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Kelly Christman: So
Alyssa Lee: the the
Kelly Christman: the
Alyssa Lee: buzzer you
Kelly Christman: yeah,
Alyssa Lee: mean,
Kelly Christman: yeah,
Alyssa Lee: yeah,
Kelly Christman: yeah.
Linda Boone: Locator.
Alyssa Lee: for sure,
Kelly Christman: So
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Kelly Christman: then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range,
Donna Hogsett: Yeah,
Kelly Christman: what
Donna Hogsett: teenagers
Kelly Christman: was it?
Donna Hogsett: and young professionals.
Alyssa Lee: Well that's for speech recognition.
Kelly Christman: Oh.
Linda Boone: Well
Donna Hogsett: Oh,
Alyssa Lee: And screen.
Donna Hogsett: uh.
Alyssa Lee: That's only for
Linda Boone: I
Alyssa Lee: speech
Linda Boone: was thinking
Alyssa Lee: recognition
Linda Boone: about
Alyssa Lee: and
Linda Boone: that
Alyssa Lee: screen.
Linda Boone: but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme, and also,
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking, and if somebody says like one, then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one,
Alyssa Lee: Yeah yeah
Linda Boone: or
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Linda Boone: it
Alyssa Lee: I
Linda Boone: seems
Alyssa Lee: mean
Linda Boone: like a silly,
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: I'm not sure how you would implement it.
Alyssa Lee: I just put the values in.
Donna Hogsett: And
Alyssa Lee: But
Donna Hogsett: if
Alyssa Lee: um
Donna Hogsett: if you
Alyssa Lee: the
Donna Hogsett: consider
Alyssa Lee: screen
Donna Hogsett: our
Alyssa Lee: is
Donna Hogsett: budget,
Alyssa Lee: the same as
Donna Hogsett: it
Alyssa Lee: what,
Donna Hogsett: probably
Linda Boone: It's a cool idea
Donna Hogsett: if you consider
Linda Boone: but
Donna Hogsett: our budget, to
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little
Alyssa Lee: Yeah, I'm
Donna Hogsett: pricey.
Alyssa Lee: happy with
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: that. Completely.
Kelly Christman: Hu yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Right so um
Kelly Christman: Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Kelly Christman: on the som like on the T_V_ itself.
Linda Boone: Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Linda Boone: or on your wall or some place
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: since the T_V_ already has power.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: Yeah you click the button, it's gonna send out a signal, and I was thinking, I_R_ is line of sight, so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work, um so probably like a radio signal like on a
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Linda Boone: on a
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Linda Boone: cell phone.
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Kelly Christman: Alright.
Donna Hogsett: Okay.
Linda Boone: Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably.
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something
Linda Boone: It would have
Donna Hogsett: you
Linda Boone: to
Donna Hogsett: can
Linda Boone: be sold separately because
Donna Hogsett: right.
Linda Boone: if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to
Donna Hogsett: Yeah,
Linda Boone: find the remote.
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Alyssa Lee: So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_, this
Linda Boone: Yeah, it'd
Alyssa Lee: thing?
Linda Boone: probably just stick it on your T_V_ so
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Linda Boone: if you need to find the remote, click
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Linda Boone: the button.
Kelly Christman: So it's now like a two-part
Linda Boone: Yeah,
Kelly Christman: thing.
Linda Boone: so it would be
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Linda Boone: a two part package.
Kelly Christman: Alright.
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Kelly Christman: So we get to design that too. Make it fashionable. Um, okay.
Donna Hogsett: So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals.
Linda Boone: Yeah I think
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Linda Boone: so.
Donna Hogsett: Huh.
Alyssa Lee: Just there.
Donna Hogsett: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: Mm. Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it. Do you
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now?
Donna Hogsett: We probably leave that. I mean I guess one takes care of the other,
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: like
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's
Kelly Christman: Then it can live anywhere.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: For the so you have that button, that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio?
Linda Boone: Um
Alyssa Lee: Are we just
Linda Boone: on the
Alyssa Lee: having
Linda Boone: T_V_
Alyssa Lee: a radio?
Linda Boone: or on the phone?
Alyssa Lee: On the phone.
Linda Boone: Um
Kelly Christman: T
Linda Boone: it seemed
Alyssa Lee: You don't
Linda Boone: like a
Alyssa Lee: need a light.
Linda Boone: a beep seemed the most
Alyssa Lee: Yeah
Linda Boone: reasonable
Alyssa Lee: yeah
Linda Boone: to Alyssa Lee,
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Linda Boone: I think
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: that's what the phone
Alyssa Lee: Yeah
Linda Boone: has,
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: I mean when you need to find your phone, you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out
Donna Hogsett: And
Linda Boone: that it's
Donna Hogsett: like
Linda Boone: in the
Donna Hogsett: if
Linda Boone: couch
Donna Hogsett: the
Linda Boone: or
Donna Hogsett: if
Linda Boone: wherever.
Donna Hogsett: the phone's under the couch, you
Alyssa Lee: You
Donna Hogsett: might
Alyssa Lee: can
Donna Hogsett: not
Alyssa Lee: hear
Donna Hogsett: see the
Alyssa Lee: it's
Donna Hogsett: light,
Alyssa Lee: under the
Donna Hogsett: so
Alyssa Lee: couch yeah.
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Kelly Christman: So
Alyssa Lee: Um,
Kelly Christman: i Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: So need the other buttons. So we have this
Donna Hogsett: So
Alyssa Lee: mm.
Donna Hogsett: I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember
Alyssa Lee: Mm-hmm.
Donna Hogsett: who
Kelly Christman: That
Donna Hogsett: showed
Kelly Christman: was
Donna Hogsett: them,
Kelly Christman: that
Donna Hogsett: yeah
Kelly Christman: was Alyssa Lee.
Donna Hogsett: you you did um, they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing, and the other looked like just
Kelly Christman: I
Donna Hogsett: television.
Kelly Christman: think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general
Donna Hogsett: Oh really.
Kelly Christman: remotes. And
Donna Hogsett: 'Cause that
Kelly Christman: uh
Donna Hogsett: that is something we have to decide, is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international?
Donna Hogsett: They're not
Alyssa Lee: They're not,
Donna Hogsett: no.
Alyssa Lee: no.
Linda Boone: Okay, so you'd
Kelly Christman: S
Linda Boone: need like a whole different
Donna Hogsett: Yeah,
Linda Boone: set of buttons
Donna Hogsett: that's
Alyssa Lee: It
Linda Boone: for
Donna Hogsett: right,
Linda Boone: everybody's
Alyssa Lee: not
Donna Hogsett: yeah.
Alyssa Lee: V_H_S_
Linda Boone: V_C_R_s.
Donna Hogsett: But
Alyssa Lee: here?
Donna Hogsett: D_V_D_ probably is.
Linda Boone: Yeah, other than that region and coding thing.
Kelly Christman: Um
Alyssa Lee: But V_C_R_s
Donna Hogsett: And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers, I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type,
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: that's
Alyssa Lee: Yeah,
Donna Hogsett: the
Alyssa Lee: for
Donna Hogsett: the
Alyssa Lee: sure.
Donna Hogsett: technology
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: Mm-hmm.
Donna Hogsett: these days.
Kelly Christman: So. Okay, let's see if I can I think still though, it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know,
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: like 'cause if you just have like one menu button, that works like with a you know, or you can just kind of scroll through the
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: options u
Alyssa Lee: Well
Kelly Christman: that
Alyssa Lee: for
Kelly Christman: come
Alyssa Lee: sure
Kelly Christman: up
Alyssa Lee: we
Kelly Christman: on the
Alyssa Lee: need
Kelly Christman: T_V_.
Alyssa Lee: the um I think we can just design the channels? I mean power's
Donna Hogsett: S
Alyssa Lee: just a button,
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: Mm-hmm.
Donna Hogsett: Huh.
Alyssa Lee: and it's not used that much, s and
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: it's usually that red
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: and I think it's quite nice to keep it like
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: red.
Donna Hogsett: You know, I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one, like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on. So you don't actually have a separate power button,
Alyssa Lee: Oh
Donna Hogsett: it's
Alyssa Lee: okay,
Donna Hogsett: just
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Kelly Christman: It seems like that would be
Donna Hogsett: But
Kelly Christman: hard though. I mean, like because unless you
Donna Hogsett: It might
Kelly Christman: know
Donna Hogsett: be confusing.
Kelly Christman: yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: be like uh why is there no on
Donna Hogsett: Besides
Kelly Christman: button.
Donna Hogsett: you like to be able
Linda Boone: Yeah,
Donna Hogsett: to go
Linda Boone: I never
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: power.
Linda Boone: think to hold something
Donna Hogsett: I
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: down.
Kelly Christman: B
Donna Hogsett: have the power
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: I guess. So we definitely want a power button and numbers.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Right.
Alyssa Lee: Well even um iPod thing, like um, I don't know if people like this
Kelly Christman: That
Alyssa Lee: scrolling
Kelly Christman: sort of like
Alyssa Lee: I
Kelly Christman: joystick
Alyssa Lee: don't know.
Kelly Christman: flat
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Kelly Christman: touch
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: thing, yeah.
Alyssa Lee: Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three
Kelly Christman: Yeah,
Alyssa Lee: four
Kelly Christman: yeah.
Alyssa Lee: five
Kelly Christman: I think that's an interesting idea, 'cause
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Kelly Christman: it's cool, it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I, you know, I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day, and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily, like it's not that hard,
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: you know.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah yeah, it's just and it's one thing
Kelly Christman: Yeah,
Alyssa Lee: which has
Kelly Christman: and
Alyssa Lee: everything.
Kelly Christman: it is yeah. It is really but do you need a screen then, do you have to have a screen then?
Alyssa Lee: Well can't it tell the like can't you
Linda Boone: Yeah, you
Alyssa Lee: if
Linda Boone: can
Alyssa Lee: you
Linda Boone: have the number going
Alyssa Lee: you
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: can
Linda Boone: around
Alyssa Lee: have the number
Linda Boone: in the corner.
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: on the telly going
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: like one two three four five
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: once you scroll
Kelly Christman: Okay
Alyssa Lee: and then
Kelly Christman: so we
Donna Hogsett: Oh
Kelly Christman: have
Donna Hogsett: that's
Kelly Christman: this
Donna Hogsett: gonna
Kelly Christman: like scrolling sort of button.
Donna Hogsett: Is that like on
Kelly Christman: Like a
Donna Hogsett: on
Kelly Christman: disc.
Donna Hogsett: a mouse pad where
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: like kind
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: of
Kelly Christman: It's
Donna Hogsett: okay.
Kelly Christman: like it's just like the same
Donna Hogsett: I've
Alyssa Lee: It's
Donna Hogsett: never
Alyssa Lee: like
Kelly Christman: technology
Donna Hogsett: used
Alyssa Lee: l
Donna Hogsett: one.
Kelly Christman: as a mouse
Alyssa Lee: this
Donna Hogsett: No.
Kelly Christman: pad.
Alyssa Lee: like that, and
Donna Hogsett: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: then you do that.
Donna Hogsett: Okay.
Kelly Christman: Yeah. Yeah
Alyssa Lee: And
Kelly Christman: and
Alyssa Lee: then
Kelly Christman: then.
Alyssa Lee: you can have um if you actually just want to zap, you can have like a thing like that, and that, and then it can just be plus and minus.
Kelly Christman: Okay. So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it
Alyssa Lee: Yeah,
Kelly Christman: oh
Alyssa Lee: you can
Kelly Christman: so it's just
Donna Hogsett: Well
Kelly Christman: a region
Donna Hogsett: i
Kelly Christman: of the circle that you can
Alyssa Lee: Yeah, click
Kelly Christman: zap.
Alyssa Lee: o actually
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Alyssa Lee: click
Donna Hogsett: We could
Alyssa Lee: on to
Donna Hogsett: we could
Alyssa Lee: have
Donna Hogsett: even have four buttons, like, if that's the if that's the mouse, you could have the volume
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: and the channel changers
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: just like on that as well.
Kelly Christman: be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to
Linda Boone: Doesn't
Kelly Christman: okay.
Linda Boone: it rotate though, so it'll be
Kelly Christman: Well
Linda Boone: moving
Kelly Christman: y you
Linda Boone: around.
Kelly Christman: have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like
Alyssa Lee: What do you mean the function?
Kelly Christman: I mean like okay, 'cause so I dunno, I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it, it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise. That that means you're gonna go up the channels, and then you
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: scroll the other way and it'll go down.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Linda Boone: Mm-hmm.
Kelly Christman: But then so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way, that's that way and volume is up and down.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah but it knows for some
Kelly Christman: It
Alyssa Lee: reason.
Kelly Christman: just
Alyssa Lee: The iPod knows.
Kelly Christman: It just kno the iPod knows. S
Linda Boone: If it works on an iPod then it works.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Huh.
Kelly Christman: So you just you just
Linda Boone: I don't
Kelly Christman: can
Linda Boone: have
Kelly Christman: either
Linda Boone: one.
Kelly Christman: do this or like you can just touch it if you want.
Alyssa Lee: Well for the volume you have to press the middle,
Kelly Christman: Okay. That's
Alyssa Lee: and
Kelly Christman: what
Alyssa Lee: then
Kelly Christman: I mean. Okay.
Alyssa Lee: go up.
Kelly Christman: Okay so you have to like
Linda Boone: Oh.
Kelly Christman: press this middle region and then you can scroll up, go up
Alyssa Lee: And
Kelly Christman: and down.
Alyssa Lee: then
Donna Hogsett: So
Alyssa Lee: well
Donna Hogsett: it's like
Alyssa Lee: if you
Donna Hogsett: holding
Alyssa Lee: do that it goes, but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down
Donna Hogsett: You can
Alyssa Lee: here,
Donna Hogsett: o
Alyssa Lee: that I've seen.
Donna Hogsett: And you you is there an extra actual button? Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down.
Alyssa Lee: Well what you
Donna Hogsett: Like
Alyssa Lee: for the
Kelly Christman: It's
Alyssa Lee: iPod
Kelly Christman: like a b
Alyssa Lee: you press an w right if you're on the channel let's
Donna Hogsett: Mm-hmm.
Alyssa Lee: say, then you press on the middle
Donna Hogsett: Mm-hmm.
Alyssa Lee: and then if you do that again the volume goes up, and
Donna Hogsett: Right.
Alyssa Lee: if you do that it goes down.
Donna Hogsett: Mm-hmm.
Alyssa Lee: But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here, I'm pretty sure
Donna Hogsett: this for channels, right,
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow? Like you could just have
Alyssa Lee: I don't know, you
Donna Hogsett: Oh,
Alyssa Lee: could click
Donna Hogsett: like
Alyssa Lee: and then have it up and
Kelly Christman: Like
Alyssa Lee: down,
Donna Hogsett: Oh
Alyssa Lee: but
Donna Hogsett: you
Alyssa Lee: I think
Donna Hogsett: could actually
Kelly Christman: I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the
Alyssa Lee: Yeah
Kelly Christman: iPod.
Alyssa Lee: yeah
Linda Boone: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: But
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Kelly Christman: the only thing is like, iPods are so expensive, like, it has to be is that part of
Donna Hogsett: Is that what makes them
Kelly Christman: yeah,
Donna Hogsett: expensi I think
Kelly Christman: I
Donna Hogsett: it's
Kelly Christman: dunno,
Donna Hogsett: all of they
Kelly Christman: I dunno.
Donna Hogsett: have
Linda Boone: I don't
Donna Hogsett: so
Linda Boone: think
Donna Hogsett: much
Linda Boone: so.
Donna Hogsett: memory though,
Kelly Christman: You don't
Donna Hogsett: that's
Kelly Christman: think so?
Donna Hogsett: it's
Linda Boone: I
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Linda Boone: don't think it's the
Alyssa Lee: I think
Linda Boone: wheel
Alyssa Lee: it
Linda Boone: dealy.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: I think
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand
Linda Boone: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: songs
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: or something.
Kelly Christman: I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod
Linda Boone: re-programmable
Kelly Christman: just has that
Linda Boone: aren't
Kelly Christman: circle
Linda Boone: they? You
Kelly Christman: thing
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: can put
Kelly Christman: you
Linda Boone: on
Kelly Christman: know.
Linda Boone: your songs and then put on a
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: different set, that's
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: probably why they're expensive,
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: they're like little
Donna Hogsett: S
Linda Boone: computers.
Kelly Christman: Yeah. Well like since it just has the circle thing, you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape, like it could be a cool
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: sort of
Linda Boone: Mm-hmm.
Kelly Christman: you know, because it could be circular,
Alyssa Lee: Yeah
Kelly Christman: you
Alyssa Lee: yeah
Kelly Christman: know,
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Kelly Christman: or something weird like
Alyssa Lee: Well
Kelly Christman: that,
Alyssa Lee: it could
Kelly Christman: just
Alyssa Lee: just be simple instead of being a l mass. Because, the other thing, I didn't tell you all my presentation, is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: and that's
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Alyssa Lee: another thing they complained about.
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Alyssa Lee: Um, what other buttons were there? Volume oh we've ts just said that.
Kelly Christman: So okay.
Alyssa Lee: Channel selection.
Kelly Christman: This is just for T_V_, it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with
Linda Boone: I
Donna Hogsett: Um
Linda Boone: A D_V_D_ is simple, you just have play,
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Linda Boone: pause,
Kelly Christman: So
Alyssa Lee: Menu.
Kelly Christman: how do
Donna Hogsett: You
Linda Boone: eject,
Kelly Christman: you
Donna Hogsett: know
Kelly Christman: switch
Donna Hogsett: actually our our new project requirements,
Linda Boone: and
Donna Hogsett: I'm
Linda Boone: menu
Donna Hogsett: not sure
Linda Boone: maybe.
Donna Hogsett: if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not
Linda Boone: Oh yeah.
Donna Hogsett: internet type things. So I'll I'll
Kelly Christman: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: check that and update you on the next
Kelly Christman: So like if we had
Donna Hogsett: But
Kelly Christman: that
Donna Hogsett: we'll hold off on that 'cause
Kelly Christman: Yeah.
Donna Hogsett: But s yeah
Alyssa Lee: But
Donna Hogsett: uh.
Alyssa Lee: D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote.
Kelly Christman: That's true, yeah.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: So, I know I'm not c really
Linda Boone: But it's
Kelly Christman: clear
Linda Boone: cool
Kelly Christman: on
Linda Boone: to have
Kelly Christman: what
Linda Boone: it all on one, because
Alyssa Lee: Yeah,
Linda Boone: you
Kelly Christman: Yeah,
Linda Boone: wanna turn
Alyssa Lee: yeah,
Linda Boone: it
Kelly Christman: yeah.
Alyssa Lee: yeah.
Linda Boone: on then you wanna turn up the volume, and then you wanna go to
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Linda Boone: the menu,
Alyssa Lee: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: So
Linda Boone: so
Kelly Christman: you'd have
Donna Hogsett: Mm.
Kelly Christman: to have like
Linda Boone: you don't
Kelly Christman: I
Linda Boone: wanna
Kelly Christman: think
Linda Boone: switch.
Kelly Christman: you would have to have like a function switch button, you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_, you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_,
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Kelly Christman: or you're like.
Linda Boone: Well
Kelly Christman: So
Linda Boone: but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons.
Alyssa Lee: Yeah, it
Kelly Christman: Yeah,
Alyssa Lee: is
Kelly Christman: but
Alyssa Lee: only
Kelly Christman: I mean
Alyssa Lee: fun
Kelly Christman: like to switch
Donna Hogsett: But
Kelly Christman: the fun
Donna Hogsett: i
Kelly Christman: so like to switch the function of the little circle disc, the touch
Linda Boone: Oh.
Kelly Christman: pad.
Donna Hogsett: Yeah.
Linda Boone: But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna
Kelly Christman: Yeah but it it
Linda Boone: but
Kelly Christman: would
Linda Boone: volume
Kelly Christman: be
Linda Boone: is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch.
Kelly Christman: So but I'm saying like, does it make sense to have like some kind of a button, so like you're if you're on T_V_, like you can switch channels, but then if uh if you're on D_V_D_ then like the channel bu like the the region of the disc that was for channels is for like switching to different tracks or s you know, to different I mean do we need to think about that, that like
Donna Hogsett: Um,
Linda Boone: Yes we
Donna Hogsett: yeah,
Linda Boone: can try
Donna Hogsett: let's
Linda Boone: that.
Donna Hogsett: think about it 'cause we need to wrap up. Um
Alyssa Lee: Okay.
Donna Hogsett: let's see. Um so everyone's gonna go finish their questionnaire, uh then when we come back after lunch we'll have thirty minutes of individual work, um yeah, so think about the things we've discussed and bring some new ideas to our next meeting. See you soon. | Alyssa Lee gave a presentation about user requirements as shown through a usability study and demonstrated that only a small number of functions on a remote were used with frequency. She suggested focusing the interface design on the most frequently used functions. Kelly Christman presented some questions that should be considered in making the device user-friendly and displayed two existing remote controls for comparison. Linda Boone discussed the necessary internal components and how they operated together, and presented her preferences for the type of each component to be used. Donna Hogsett gave the group several new requirements for the project. The group discussed several product features and decided that the remote will feature a locator function and will not feature speech recognition. The group discussed whether or not the remote should control multiple devices. They discussed important button functions to include and increasing usability by incorporating a scroll wheel in the design. Donna Hogsett instructed the other participants to fill out a questionnaire and to work on their individual presentations for the next meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Tammy Schwartz: 'Kay. Hmm. Okay everybody. Welcome to the design meeting. Um Let's see. Our agenda. Last time we discussed the squishy fruitiness of our remote controls and how we might pursue that. Um and I think looks like we've come up with some ideas. Um and we also talked about materials we'd use and what kind of chip would be necessary. Um so for later in the meeting I've done a a spreadsheet of production costs so we'll take a look at that. and see it's changed all when we last discussed it. Um so actually I think Yeah um f you guys wanna give a prototype presentation of
Lynette Mayfield: Okay well um. So our design looks something like this. This being the wheel that you use to uh change channels or volume or whatever. This is a button, serves as the power button if you hold it down, and if you just tap on it I think it brings up the menu. And uh the base of the remote control, which has a squishy spongy rubbery feel, is interchangeable. So you can change the colour, according to your to suit your living room or whatever. And
Latoya Olson: You could
Lynette Mayfield: it comes
Latoya Olson: change the vegetable,
Lynette Mayfield: yeah, I can change
Latoya Olson: or fruit.
Lynette Mayfield: the vegetable.
Tammy Schwartz: Oh is that broccoli?
Lynette Mayfield: This
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: one's broccoli. So this snaps off and you can put on whichever one you want. This is not to scale 'cause it would have the battery inside it. This is a mango. The it's trendy fruit, it's not just ordinary fruits. You don't have orange, you have mango. Um I guess strawberry's not as
Tammy Schwartz: 'S
Lynette Mayfield: trendy,
Tammy Schwartz: a very
Lynette Mayfield: but
Tammy Schwartz: bright strawberry.
Lynette Mayfield: So we'll come up with a variety of trendy and exciting fruit designs for the remote control.
Latoya Olson: It's
Lynette Mayfield: And then
Latoya Olson: been
Lynette Mayfield: people
Latoya Olson: a
Lynette Mayfield: will
Latoya Olson: l
Lynette Mayfield: be encouraged to buy three or five of them, because they'll need to switch 'em out.
Latoya Olson: It's been a little bit difficult to um make sure that it's hand-holdable, and that the user can use it, you know, it's not too big. Uh but we think that this you know, this size will be okay and we will have to fit the battery case in there
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Latoya Olson: somehow.
Tammy Schwartz: Oh
Latoya Olson: And
Tammy Schwartz: yeah.
Latoya Olson: I guess the only other thing that we really didn't talk about was or design actually, would be the thing the locator. How how so
Lynette Mayfield: Well the locator is just chip that's inside there.
Latoya Olson: Okay so that's just
Lynette Mayfield: And the beeper's also inside there too somewhere.
Latoya Olson: So you have to have a button on your on your you have to attach the button to the
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah we didn't design that.
Latoya Olson: Yeah we have that that has yes yet
Lynette Mayfield: But
Latoya Olson: to
Lynette Mayfield: it
Latoya Olson: be
Lynette Mayfield: would
Latoya Olson: designed.
Lynette Mayfield: be coordinating with that of course.
Latoya Olson: Yeah that c
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: hey that that could you know match the handset.
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Latoya Olson: You could have a broccoli, or you could have a mango. So. Tada.
Tammy Schwartz: Oh. Um if you wanna look in your project documents folder, there's an Excel spreadsheet. Um the only one that's in there, production costs. And if you open it up. Um I've just stuck the numbers in, it was a real challenge there. But if I missed anything that we've gone over, or if you see something that has changed I mean, we decided on batteries, and the regular chip would be necessary for the more advanced iPod-like button. Um I said uncurved or flat. I think that's what you have there, is that right? For the for the plastic part would be
Lynette Mayfield: My impression was that flat meant like like one of those square remotes. But it's
Tammy Schwartz: Oh.
Lynette Mayfield: really not very
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: clear, because you got single curve and double curve and
Tammy Schwartz: Right.
Lynette Mayfield: d I dunno what that means. One side is curved and then the other side is curved.
Tammy Schwartz: Well yeah. If we're talking about the area just oh I d I dunno. I guess we'd have to contact the company that makes them and see. Um so what else? There's plastic for that area around the button. Um and then rubber would be the squishy like thing right?
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Schwartz: Um and lots of special colours actually. Uh scroll wheel. Do you see anything that I've missed?
Lynette Mayfield: No I think that's alright.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay so that would make our total of eleven point nine, which is even less than twelve point five, which means we'd be making even more of a profit. And if we sold a lot of squishy things.
Latoya Olson: Mm.
Tammy Schwartz: Boo yeah. Okay. S So Mm.
Tammy Schwartz: Did y what did you work on? The
Sandra Eckhard: Um evaluation criteria.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay. Do you wanna
Sandra Eckhard: I've got a presentation
Tammy Schwartz: Okay. I think
Sandra Eckhard: So I need
Tammy Schwartz: that's
Sandra Eckhard: where's the cable?
Sandra Eckhard: Right what happens is we have to um decide whether this this whole this whole project we've been working on actually um meets the standards we were set at the start. Um. Right. This doesn't okay. Um the method is we well I've analysed the user requirements and integrated them to the trends found in marketing reports and in our company strategy marketing. And um findings were that we need it a way, a way, and this is everything's listed down. Um, look in a certain way, feel in a certain way, it has to be technologically innovative and it has to be easy to use. These are all things we looked at at the start, um and criteria that have to be met. We have to use a table, I'll show you that later, together to decide whether it meets the standards. And we we have therefore in total um We have five we have eleven points according to which this should be evaluated. And um the cri well basically the findings are the same as the evaluation criteria. I would like to show you the table we have to use. Um. No. This is the table. Can you see this here?
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: Um so the que the questions I've given you c could you write that down? True is one and and false is seven. And we'll just go through each point together, hopefully. Um. I think if each of us gives an opinion then they can be mixed somehow. I dunno how it works exactly, I haven't
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: been told.
Latoya Olson: Is it possible that we can bring this up on our own
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah it's in the um it's in the project documents.
Latoya Olson: Is it meeting three minutes? No it's not
Sandra Eckhard: It's
Latoya Olson: minutes.
Sandra Eckhard: called evaluation criteria.
Latoya Olson: Okay.
Sandra Eckhard: And it's under evaluation.
Tammy Schwartz: Huh, the PowerPoint
Lynette Mayfield: Hmm?
Tammy Schwartz: one?
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Okay. Cool.
Sandra Eckhard: You've found it all?
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: So it was um Yeah true's one.
Latoya Olson: True's one and false is seven.
Sandra Eckhard: Do you want us to discuss this together or do you want us to do it singly?
Tammy Schwartz: Um we can do it separately and then discuss
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah okay.
Tammy Schwartz: it if if that's what people wanna do.
Latoya Olson: So it's actually a scale.
Tammy Schwartz: Wait, one is true and
Sandra Eckhard: Um,
Tammy Schwartz: so these are the questions we're answering.
Sandra Eckhard: yes
Tammy Schwartz: And
Sandra Eckhard: it's
Tammy Schwartz: one is
Sandra Eckhard: if it's fancy you put one,
Tammy Schwartz: One, right
Sandra Eckhard: if
Tammy Schwartz: okay.
Sandra Eckhard: it's really unfancy it's seven.
Tammy Schwartz: If it's somewhere in between you put four.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah, something.
Latoya Olson: Okay.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Latoya Olson: Does it feel fancy?
Lynette Mayfield: Feels like play-dough.
Latoya Olson: No.
Sandra Eckhard: They shouldn't really be questions. Should be more like
Sandra Eckhard: Are the batteries easy to insert?
Lynette Mayfield: I'm gonna say yes.
Sandra Eckhard: Yes? Very very true. Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: I imagine they're somewhere on the front. We have a little case that you slip 'em in.
Sandra Eckhard: Okay.
Tammy Schwartz: Are we just about ready?
Sandra Eckhard: Apparently I'm supposed to use the whiteboard. Do we um is it necessary?
Tammy Schwartz: I don't think so. It's
Sandra Eckhard: We'll just do
Tammy Schwartz: yeah
Sandra Eckhard: um
Tammy Schwartz: the the marker thing kinda stopped working last time
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: we
Latoya Olson: Okay.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: Our animals
Sandra Eckhard: Okay.
Tammy Schwartz: will forever be there. Un unless you feel you need it t to
Sandra Eckhard: I don't feel any
Tammy Schwartz: okay okay. We'll
Sandra Eckhard: right um Right so one point one? We'll just go in a circle.
Latoya Olson: One.
Lynette Mayfield: 'Kay Five.
Sandra Eckhard: Right. Ooh I don't know. Right. One?
Lynette Mayfield: Five.
Tammy Schwartz: Five.
Sandra Eckhard: Five. Two. Okay so do we just add it up and divide it by four? Is that what the company does?
Tammy Schwartz: I I think we should
Lynette Mayfield: It's four if you wanna do that.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah?
Lynette Mayfield: It adds
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: to sixteen, so that's four.
Sandra Eckhard: Oh no. It adds to thirteen. One five five two.
Lynette Mayfield: Oh I thought she said five.
Latoya Olson: Hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: One five five two is thirteen, over four for now. I think that's um next?
Latoya Olson: Um three.
Lynette Mayfield: Six.
Tammy Schwartz: Six.
Sandra Eckhard: Really?
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Two.
Tammy Schwartz: I wasn't
Sandra Eckhard: Uh-oh.
Tammy Schwartz: cheating I swear.
Sandra Eckhard: Right. One point three is
Latoya Olson: So it's a one was true and seven was false?
Lynette Mayfield: Huh?
Tammy Schwartz: Uh.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Okay, so you guys really didn't like it?
Sandra Eckhard: I
Tammy Schwartz: Oh
Sandra Eckhard: really
Lynette Mayfield: Wait
Tammy Schwartz: I thought
Lynette Mayfield: a minute.
Tammy Schwartz: it was the other way round.
Lynette Mayfield: I thought it was the other way round too.
Sandra Eckhard: Well
Tammy Schwartz: So we do have about
Sandra Eckhard: uh
Tammy Schwartz: the
Lynette Mayfield: Sh
Tammy Schwartz: same thing, we just have it the other
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah
Tammy Schwartz: way
Lynette Mayfield: I
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah yeah. It was
Lynette Mayfield: I was
Sandra Eckhard: one
Lynette Mayfield: thinking
Sandra Eckhard: is
Lynette Mayfield: one
Sandra Eckhard: true
Lynette Mayfield: means no
Sandra Eckhard: and
Lynette Mayfield: points, you know,
Sandra Eckhard: false
Lynette Mayfield: all the way
Sandra Eckhard: is
Lynette Mayfield: up
Sandra Eckhard: seven.
Lynette Mayfield: to the top.
Sandra Eckhard: I should've kept the table up.
Tammy Schwartz: Oh
Lynette Mayfield: I'll just
Tammy Schwartz: gosh. Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: I'll just
Tammy Schwartz: Well
Lynette Mayfield: reverse them all. It's no problem.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Right, well I'm glad this came out.
Latoya Olson: I was like, why did you guys design it that
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: way if you hated
Lynette Mayfield: I thought
Latoya Olson: it?
Lynette Mayfield: you guys hated it.
Sandra Eckhard: No.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Oh that's quite funny.
Lynette Mayfield: Okay.
Sandra Eckhard: Okay.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Okay. So, starting again, one point one?
Latoya Olson: One.
Lynette Mayfield: Say two.
Tammy Schwartz: Three.
Sandra Eckhard: Two. Okay, one point two?
Latoya Olson: Uh three.
Lynette Mayfield: Two.
Tammy Schwartz: Two.
Sandra Eckhard: Two. Okay. Um, one point three?
Latoya Olson: One.
Tammy Schwartz: One.
Lynette Mayfield: One.
Sandra Eckhard: Ha. Two point one?
Latoya Olson: Uh
Tammy Schwartz: Two.
Latoya Olson: two.
Lynette Mayfield: Uh two.
Tammy Schwartz: Two point I think I missed two. Wait, is that two point one?
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah I put it
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: down as one point four
Tammy Schwartz: One
Sandra Eckhard: Oh
Lynette Mayfield: for
Tammy Schwartz: point
Lynette Mayfield: some
Sandra Eckhard: dear,
Tammy Schwartz: four,
Lynette Mayfield: reason.
Tammy Schwartz: one point five.
Sandra Eckhard: okay.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay right
Sandra Eckhard: Sorry.
Tammy Schwartz: that's I have two of them.
Lynette Mayfield: Mine has all kinds of
Sandra Eckhard: Two
Lynette Mayfield: problems.
Sandra Eckhard: and one. Sorry about that. T two point two, which is one point five.
Tammy Schwartz: One.
Lynette Mayfield: Uh three. Wait why did I put three?
Latoya Olson: Uh one.
Lynette Mayfield: I meant
Sandra Eckhard: Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: one on mine too.
Sandra Eckhard: Three point one. Is that correct on my
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: slide?
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah?
Latoya Olson: Uh one.
Lynette Mayfield: Three point one. I have four.
Tammy Schwartz: Three.
Sandra Eckhard: One, four, three, three, three point two?
Lynette Mayfield: Three.
Tammy Schwartz: Three.
Latoya Olson: Uh. One.
Sandra Eckhard: Three point three.
Latoya Olson: One.
Lynette Mayfield: One.
Tammy Schwartz: Two.
Sandra Eckhard: Four point one?
Latoya Olson: One.
Lynette Mayfield: Two.
Tammy Schwartz: Five.
Sandra Eckhard: Two. Four point two.
Latoya Olson: Two.
Lynette Mayfield: Three.
Tammy Schwartz: Four.
Sandra Eckhard: Two and four point three.
Lynette Mayfield: Two.
Sandra Eckhard: One, two.
Latoya Olson: One.
Tammy Schwartz: Two.
Sandra Eckhard: Right so I put one on that. Okay I'll um I'll just do the calculations now if you want to continue.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Sandra Eckhard: Or is
Tammy Schwartz: Um
Sandra Eckhard: it tedious? I'm I'm sorry this was so tedious
Tammy Schwartz: No
Sandra Eckhard: for
Tammy Schwartz: no
Sandra Eckhard: everyone.
Tammy Schwartz: that's um
Sandra Eckhard: I didn't
Tammy Schwartz: I
Sandra Eckhard: know
Tammy Schwartz: think
Sandra Eckhard: how
Tammy Schwartz: we
Sandra Eckhard: else
Tammy Schwartz: should
Sandra Eckhard: to do
Tammy Schwartz: look at
Sandra Eckhard: it.
Tammy Schwartz: the ones that like where s where people said four, where um it looks like we might wanna discuss changing an aspect of the remote.
Sandra Eckhard: Okay. Well the worst ones were three point one.
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: Do does every ones have the slide? Three point
Tammy Schwartz: The
Sandra Eckhard: one.
Tammy Schwartz: that was material.
Sandra Eckhard: Slide show. Material technologically innovative, okay.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Sandra Eckhard: Um, do you want to change it? What are the suggestions? I don't know, anyone?
Tammy Schwartz: Um
Latoya Olson: Which one is that again sorry? Three point one?
Tammy Schwartz: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah that it's three point one was not that good. Four point one.
Tammy Schwartz: Does the shape
Sandra Eckhard: The shape.
Latoya Olson: I think
Sandra Eckhard: Four point two?
Tammy Schwartz: See I'm having I'm having trouble imagining the is it uh gonna be the size, like the the controller? It
Lynette Mayfield: I think
Tammy Schwartz: or
Lynette Mayfield: the
Tammy Schwartz: bigger?
Lynette Mayfield: wheel would probably be mm.
Tammy Schwartz: Because
Latoya Olson: What if we just smash all the vegetables down flat? And like then it you could hold it in your hand better.
Lynette Mayfield: I think the base would definitely be larger, 'cause some of these are not as easy to hold. They're
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: kinda smallish.
Tammy Schwartz: No but I imagine even if it was bigger, like if it's round and it's big then you you can't get
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: that's why remote controls
Latoya Olson: The
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: flat
Tammy Schwartz: are long
Latoya Olson: one.
Tammy Schwartz: because
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: you have that thumb kind of so c they could all be bananas and cucumbers.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: Um but I don't s I I personally don't think this is comfortable
Latoya Olson: I didn't
Tammy Schwartz: to to
Latoya Olson: yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: sit there, like it's
Latoya Olson: But
Tammy Schwartz: an
Latoya Olson: like
Tammy Schwartz: awkward
Latoya Olson: if if
Tammy Schwartz: position.
Latoya Olson: you just squash them flat like and you made it flat
Lynette Mayfield: Well if they're that s uh stress ball stuff they would be pretty squishable.
Latoya Olson: But it's
Lynette Mayfield: Mm.
Latoya Olson: still too big I think, in your
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: hand. Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: And would it even resemble fruit that way? I mean
Latoya Olson: Yeah like certain ones you'd have to limit the fruit selection,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: like you could probably do a strawberry still.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I think the broccoli would be out. You could do, although the broccoli is quite comfortable, I have to say, like sorta
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah
Latoya Olson: like
Tammy Schwartz: that
Latoya Olson: a joystick.
Tammy Schwartz: I I when you were holding
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: that before, it
Sandra Eckhard: That
Tammy Schwartz: actually
Sandra Eckhard: looked
Tammy Schwartz: looked
Sandra Eckhard: really good.
Tammy Schwartz: yeah.
Latoya Olson: I don't know. So
Sandra Eckhard: Are there any fruits that look like broccoli, no?
Latoya Olson: Uh.
Lynette Mayfield: Not that I can think of. Rhubarb.
Latoya Olson: Rhubarb. These obscure
Sandra Eckhard: I think
Latoya Olson: fruits.
Sandra Eckhard: that broccoli is my favourite actually.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Uh despite the
Latoya Olson: I think we
Tammy Schwartz: What
Latoya Olson: needn't
Tammy Schwartz: if um the it was just patterns on like we we chose the shape or the sh shape could be whatever we wanted and then it would just be like a design on the rubber.
Latoya Olson: Huh?
Tammy Schwartz: You
Latoya Olson: Oh
Tammy Schwartz: know
Latoya Olson: okay.
Tammy Schwartz: like like
Lynette Mayfield: So
Tammy Schwartz: just
Lynette Mayfield: it's just
Tammy Schwartz: a
Lynette Mayfield: colour,
Tammy Schwartz: printed
Lynette Mayfield: and not
Tammy Schwartz: yeah
Lynette Mayfield: necessarily
Tammy Schwartz: or
Lynette Mayfield: the shape
Tammy Schwartz: coloured
Lynette Mayfield: of a strawberry.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: yeah.
Latoya Olson: That could work.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: Or I mean we could even have fruit like around
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: I mean
Latoya Olson: Yeah. I dunno.
Tammy Schwartz: But
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah
Tammy Schwartz: if
Sandra Eckhard: and
Tammy Schwartz: we
Sandra Eckhard: just
Tammy Schwartz: if
Sandra Eckhard: have the
Tammy Schwartz: we
Sandra Eckhard: colour
Tammy Schwartz: need
Sandra Eckhard: match or something.
Tammy Schwartz: yeah. And if we wanna incorporate the fruit thing somehow, there might be I mean if it if it in if it uh conflicts with the comfort of actually holdi holding
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: the
Latoya Olson: 'Cause yeah no-one wants to hold a remote that's uncomfortable obviously.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Sandra Eckhard: Mm.
Latoya Olson: Or like I dunno, some of 'em you can kind of think see as like like you could if it was only this you know, if it was shaped like that, and it just had that. But you see the problem
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: is you have to attach that, and this has to be detachable.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: So like maybe that's just too
Tammy Schwartz: Well
Latoya Olson: big
Tammy Schwartz: see th
Latoya Olson: because
Tammy Schwartz: the reason the broccoli works is you can kinda hold it like that,
Latoya Olson: Yeah
Tammy Schwartz: which is
Latoya Olson: it's
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: a
Latoya Olson: sorta
Tammy Schwartz: nice
Latoya Olson: like
Tammy Schwartz: kind
Latoya Olson: a joystick.
Tammy Schwartz: of yeah. But
Latoya Olson: I dunno. I guess
Tammy Schwartz: I mean is there some way we could make it this kind of shape? 'Cause like
Lynette Mayfield: We
Tammy Schwartz: kind
Lynette Mayfield: could make
Tammy Schwartz: of
Lynette Mayfield: it that shape but just have different colours,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah,
Lynette Mayfield: and call
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: 'em the
Tammy Schwartz: yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: different fruits.
Tammy Schwartz: Or
Latoya Olson: Dif
Tammy Schwartz: like
Lynette Mayfield: We
Tammy Schwartz: even
Lynette Mayfield: went with shape because we were having
Tammy Schwartz: Or
Lynette Mayfield: fun
Tammy Schwartz: even
Lynette Mayfield: with the play-dough.
Tammy Schwartz: like Yeah like you said, like a joystick like that.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: You know?
Latoya Olson: Yeah. Like uh we could do I'm trying to think of other sha like fruits that are oddly shaped.
Tammy Schwartz: 'Cause that, I think I mean that fits the whole round iPod idea.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
Tammy Schwartz: And
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: you still have the comfort of holding it like that.
Latoya Olson: Mm.
Tammy Schwartz: And you could like if it's like this, you could put fruit designs and stuff on
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: that
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: part.
Latoya Olson: Alright.
Tammy Schwartz: But I mean it do we have any other ideas about that?
Sandra Eckhard: Um
Latoya Olson: We could tr I don't know.
Sandra Eckhard: Think the critical ones came out to be yeah that one. Batteries easy to insert for some reason, which can be easily I think that's not a problem
Tammy Schwartz: The
Sandra Eckhard: any
Tammy Schwartz: batteries are
Lynette Mayfield: That
Tammy Schwartz: going
Sandra Eckhard: more.
Lynette Mayfield: everyone gave that a one or a two.
Tammy Schwartz: in the back?
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah
Sandra Eckhard: No.
Lynette Mayfield: they'd probably be either on the front or the side of
Tammy Schwartz: The reason
Lynette Mayfield: the remote.
Tammy Schwartz: I I ga I didn't give it a one I think I gave it a three because I thought you'd have to like unc
Lynette Mayfield: No
Tammy Schwartz: clip no
Lynette Mayfield: I imagine
Tammy Schwartz: you could
Lynette Mayfield: there'd be sort of a hatch
Tammy Schwartz: Just
Lynette Mayfield: door,
Tammy Schwartz: like any other one.
Lynette Mayfield: yeah um
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: like on a normal remote.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah. Right.
Lynette Mayfield: So it would probably either in the f no it can't be in the front 'cause the I_R_'s right there, but it'd be on one of the sides probably.
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Sandra Eckhard: I think everyone's under three anyway.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Sandra Eckhard: So I think it's yeah those are the only two points.
Latoya Olson: Cool. Well Yeah the broccoli I guess wins.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah I'd agree with changing the shape. Um,
Tammy Schwartz: Okay.
Lynette Mayfield: I was just having fun making strawberries and stuff.
Latoya Olson: We were a bit off task. Um so uh I can't think of any So we'll have to like Mm. Yeah I dunno. You could make the touch pad in th in different shapes, but then that kind of re-designs the whole project like, but you could do
Lynette Mayfield: It might
Latoya Olson: like
Lynette Mayfield: also sort of annoy people if we get used to having the buttons
Latoya Olson: Yeah
Lynette Mayfield: in
Latoya Olson: that's
Lynette Mayfield: one shape.
Latoya Olson: true.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: And it would probably cost more to produce,
Latoya Olson: Yeah that's
Tammy Schwartz: 'cause
Latoya Olson: true.
Tammy Schwartz: they're irregular.
Latoya Olson: Mm.
Lynette Mayfield: I bet having different colours is a lot cheaper than having different shapes too.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah. Which is why printing might be like just printing the fruit on fruit.
Latoya Olson: Hmm.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Tammy Schwartz: Not really Well we've done finance evaluation criteria, production evaluation. Um so project evaluation.
Sandra Eckhard: Do you want this and we can all No.
Tammy Schwartz: I guess we're supposed to discuss um the prod the process of the project and how satisfied oh, oh it's alright. Uh.
Sandra Eckhard: It's alright yeah?
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah. Um Did you feel there was a lot of room for creativity in the sort of
Lynette Mayfield: Sure.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I did.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: I mean fruit and squishiness. How c more creative
Lynette Mayfield: Sponginess.
Tammy Schwartz: can you get?
Latoya Olson: The prototype making was very creatively stimulating and I think we've come up with a product that's fun and meets all the criteria.
Tammy Schwartz: And how was our leadership and teamwork?
Lynette Mayfield: I think it was good. We knew what we were doing. It was a very democratic process and everyone got to contribute.
Tammy Schwartz: Well I thought my leadership was crap personally. Excuse Sandra Eckhard,
Lynette Mayfield: Well
Tammy Schwartz: am
Lynette Mayfield: you
Tammy Schwartz: I allowed
Lynette Mayfield: told
Tammy Schwartz: to
Lynette Mayfield: us
Tammy Schwartz: say
Lynette Mayfield: when
Tammy Schwartz: that?
Lynette Mayfield: to start and when to end, and that's all
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: that matters.
Tammy Schwartz: Um.
Latoya Olson: I think you were fine. You did
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah,
Latoya Olson: a good job leading.
Tammy Schwartz: well I'm never gonna do a management position, I know that now. Um yeah, I thought we all worked very
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah
Tammy Schwartz: well
Sandra Eckhard: we didn't
Tammy Schwartz: together.
Sandra Eckhard: we uh it all c sort of blended
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: quite
Latoya Olson: Yeah
Sandra Eckhard: well.
Latoya Olson: I think it more than anything we didn't really have our set roles so much, as we just would be like
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I don't know, all had ideas
Tammy Schwartz: Very democratic.
Latoya Olson: about it but yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: No spats, that was good.
Latoya Olson: No.
Tammy Schwartz: Um and the means for like the materials we used, how convenient were they? Like the the pens, the whiteboard, I mean
Lynette Mayfield: Well I'm not
Tammy Schwartz: we
Lynette Mayfield: a
Tammy Schwartz: used
Lynette Mayfield: big fan of any Microsoft, PowerPoint or any
Tammy Schwartz: Are you
Lynette Mayfield: of
Tammy Schwartz: a
Lynette Mayfield: this
Tammy Schwartz: Mac
Lynette Mayfield: stuff.
Tammy Schwartz: person?
Lynette Mayfield: No no I never touch Macs either. I just use the Unix or the off market, sort of WordPerfect and all these other things.
Tammy Schwartz: Huh.
Latoya Olson: Hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: Which isn't very user-friendly
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: though.
Lynette Mayfield: Well the problem is if you don't like my new computer never has WordPerfect so I have to go track someone down who has an old disk and then I have to reinstall it. So I have all these documents I can't use now. But yeah I mean I guess it's okay.
Latoya Olson: I felt like my I dunno if it was just my role, but l but uh I di I thought that my the information that was available to Sandra Eckhard was kind of just like or maybe it was just the idea that we had. But there's kinda it was kinda like okay, I don't really think I dunno what I'm doing here.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Latoya Olson: So I didn't really think it was helpful. So I kind of just made up my own stuff and I
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: didn't really like the PowerPoint presentations, so I kind of wrote a lot of notes instead. But
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: yeah I d I don't really like PowerPoint personally, think it's kinda
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: stupid.
Lynette Mayfield: I never use it.
Latoya Olson: Yeah but uh
Tammy Schwartz: I can't say I found everything particularly helpful.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: Like
Latoya Olson: It didn't
Tammy Schwartz: I
Latoya Olson: really
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: It
Sandra Eckhard: I
Lynette Mayfield: My first
Sandra Eckhard: though it
Lynette Mayfield: bit
Sandra Eckhard: was
Lynette Mayfield: of information
Sandra Eckhard: brilliant
Lynette Mayfield: was
Sandra Eckhard: no?
Lynette Mayfield: like
Tammy Schwartz: Really?
Lynette Mayfield: this child's drawn picture of how a remote works.
Sandra Eckhard: No mine was really helpful as in my stuff was quite helpful I think.
Latoya Olson: So
Tammy Schwartz: I
Latoya Olson: like
Sandra Eckhard: I
Tammy Schwartz: mean
Latoya Olson: a f
Sandra Eckhard: think it
Tammy Schwartz: m my
Sandra Eckhard: depends
Tammy Schwartz: problem
Sandra Eckhard: on the role no?
Latoya Olson: Yeah
Tammy Schwartz: yeah,
Latoya Olson: I
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah
Latoya Olson: think so.
Lynette Mayfield: it probably does.
Tammy Schwartz: yeah. 'Cause my problem was, you guys had access to like they'd put send you to sites and stuff right?
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: See I couldn't do that, so I didn't really know what you guys were doing. And when you were talking about it I was just like you know that's wh that's why I seemed so ignorant when when you were j explaining things, 'cause I
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah well mine was mostly made up except when they told Sandra Eckhard like you know titanium costs more than
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: wood to make a remote control.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: you'd
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: wanted to.
Sandra Eckhard: But it must have been quite difficult for them to build a whole um
Tammy Schwartz: System.
Sandra Eckhard: a whole system,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: 'cause of course they can't give you uh uh anything comparable to the internet for
Latoya Olson: Yeah
Sandra Eckhard: the
Latoya Olson: I mean,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: Well I think
Latoya Olson: it
Lynette Mayfield: it's interesting how it all went together, like I had the stuff about how Sandra Eckhard how rubber's cheap, and you have how
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah,
Lynette Mayfield: people
Sandra Eckhard: yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: want it to be spongy, and
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah, huh.
Lynette Mayfield: It seems planned you know.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: Yeah I kinda thought that um I felt like I would go and like try to use my information, stupid little presentation and then like I just would end up talking about something completely unrelated because I dunno
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I felt like I was off-task all the time. But um
Tammy Schwartz: Well I mean we really got into talking about like personal practicalit like it wasn't necessarily what was like we would never have thought of fruit or sponginess
Sandra Eckhard: No.
Tammy Schwartz: you know?
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: So
Lynette Mayfield: If
Tammy Schwartz: it's
Lynette Mayfield: I hadn't been told that fruit was
Sandra Eckhard: But I think that it it might be to see whether people actually all come up with the same
Tammy Schwartz: Oh
Sandra Eckhard: thing.
Tammy Schwartz: right. given certain information or
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah,
Tammy Schwartz: Just
Sandra Eckhard: like
Tammy Schwartz: yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: if everyone's given the same input I don't have a clue,
Tammy Schwartz: Mm,
Sandra Eckhard: anyway. Um
Tammy Schwartz: mm.
Sandra Eckhard: what's next? Looks like oh no that's not um It's
Tammy Schwartz: What
Sandra Eckhard: quite
Tammy Schwartz: do you guys think of the pens? It asks
Lynette Mayfield: They're
Tammy Schwartz: about
Lynette Mayfield: pretty
Tammy Schwartz: that.
Lynette Mayfield: cool.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Lynette Mayfield: They're
Latoya Olson: I
Lynette Mayfield: kinda
Latoya Olson: wanna s
Lynette Mayfield: hard to write with though.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: and I I've f forgotten once or twice to check the box.
Latoya Olson: I I'd like to see what what it looks like on the
Lynette Mayfield: They're nicer than the pen that I'm using, because like your stuff actually shows up here, rather than having to look at the screen and write.
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Lynette Mayfield: But even so, I dunno.
Tammy Schwartz: And new ideas found?
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah it's all very new,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Sandra Eckhard: no? It's all very new.
Latoya Olson: Yeah I think I'd like to um I dunno. Like
Sandra Eckhard: Sorry.
Latoya Olson: it was the I think the microphones are okay when you're sitting down, but like they're kinda clumsy I guess
Lynette Mayfield: Oh
Latoya Olson: when
Lynette Mayfield: yeah.
Latoya Olson: you're like when you're s going up to the whiteboard like.
Lynette Mayfield: Well they drop off if you like move too much.
Latoya Olson: Yeah I dunno. But they're
Lynette Mayfield: But I don't
Latoya Olson: they're
Lynette Mayfield: think
Latoya Olson: okay.
Lynette Mayfield: we're supposed to be testing these microphones. Maybe we are. I don't
Tammy Schwartz: Mm.
Lynette Mayfield: know.
Latoya Olson: Uh I think, and I think that uh all this technology like I guess some people must be interested in using it but I can't imagine finding it any more useful than like looking at someone's
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: notes,
Lynette Mayfield: Well
Latoya Olson: or
Lynette Mayfield: the
Latoya Olson: like
Lynette Mayfield: thing is,
Latoya Olson: I
Lynette Mayfield: like
Latoya Olson: dunno.
Lynette Mayfield: I actually worked in a company, and I had a role and I had to go to meetings. And like the last thing I would have wanted would be to have to watch a video 'cause I missed a meeting. Like usually I missed meetings deliberately. There's just there's really not that much information that actually goes through a real meeting,
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: like when you're actually at a real meeting in a real company.
Latoya Olson: Hm.
Lynette Mayfield: It's mostly like rehashing old stuff. And you're sort of going over general stuff that
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: anybody who's sort of on task should already know. It's like the there's just really not a lot of information
Tammy Schwartz: Seems
Lynette Mayfield: that goes
Tammy Schwartz: kind
Lynette Mayfield: through.
Tammy Schwartz: of like an excessive
Lynette Mayfield: It
Tammy Schwartz: reiteration.
Lynette Mayfield: seems like way overkill.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: Like if I missed a meeting I could probably get it summed up in like one sentence.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: I wouldn't need to have to watch like a t two hour video with the sound and the transcript and
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I guess it would be it's gotta be worth it to I 'cause I'm just mostly curious about like what kind of person or like company would would really find it useful, 'cause can't really imagine, dunno. How about a p a? Um I dunno.
Tammy Schwartz: Well does anyone wanna talk about fruit more while we still have time? Any other
Sandra Eckhard: What
Tammy Schwartz: ideas
Sandra Eckhard: what's
Tammy Schwartz: for
Sandra Eckhard: the end? Are we are we supposed to um you supposed to write a report? Or we ending?
Tammy Schwartz: Um
Sandra Eckhard: Is that the end?
Tammy Schwartz: we still have time if there's any other input. I mean the I think we did really well personally, which is why we've you know, gone through this so quickly. 'Cause I mean we've all we all kind of agreed our product is satisfactory, it fits the budget, and it's trendy.
Latoya Olson: Yeah.
Tammy Schwartz: So. Um.
Sandra Eckhard: End of meeting. You have to tell her, she
Tammy Schwartz: So I think that's all for today.
Sandra Eckhard: Okay we have to fill in all this stuff. Stuff stuff
Latoya Olson: M
Sandra Eckhard: stuff.
Latoya Olson: meeting adjourned.
Tammy Schwartz: Meeting adjourned.
Sandra Eckhard: Yeah.
Lynette Mayfield: I think I've learned not to bring play-dough to meetings.
Tammy Schwartz: Yeah.
Latoya Olson: I think it would be a good idea, I like it.
Lynette Mayfield: It's hard enough to get people actually paying attention. Especially if you have food.
Tammy Schwartz: So I guess we're supposed to write final reports. 'Cause
Lynette Mayfield: All of us?
Tammy Schwartz: I don't know.
Sandra Eckhard: Well there's al eight,
Tammy Schwartz: Hmm.
Sandra Eckhard: nine. Ooh. Oh ooh.
Tammy Schwartz: Hmm. Or is that just Sandra Eckhard? | Tammy Schwartz reviewed the minutes from the last meeting. Latoya Olson and Lynette Mayfield presented the prototype and displayed the changeable fruit- and vegetable-shaped covers. They discussed the locator function that will be designed at a later time. Tammy Schwartz discussed the final production cost for the device, which totaled 11.9 Euros. Sandra Eckhard led an evaluation of the prototype. Each participant rated the prototype according to the original criteria for the project. The group discussed the areas in which the prototype did not meet these goals. The group felt that the changeable fruit and vegetable shapes were uncomfortable to hold. The group decided to make changeable covers in fruit colors and designs and to use one uniform shape. The group discussed their experience on the project. They felt they worked well together and were creative. They complained that the meeting-room materials were difficult to use, and some complained that there was not enough information provided to them. Tammy Schwartz instructed all participants to write a final report at the end of the meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Donna Robards: Is everyone ready to start?
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Yes.
Donna Robards: Okay. Great Well. welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um, on the agenda for this, um, for this particular meeting, we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting, after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And, um, then we have to make some key decisions on, on our concept, how we're gonna make it, what uh materials we're gonna use, and that sort of thing. The meeting will be forty minutes long.
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: Alright, and I will switch up PowerPoint.
Monika Fleury: Thank you.
Donna Robards: Okay.
Monika Fleury: Should be just loading. Okay. Oh, although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use, um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um, first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made, and what is it happens inside the casing, which is more your field. Um thes, main internal feature is a circuit board, which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source. Which is not necessarily a battery, as we're about to see. Um, there are several components of, um, the circuit board that we need to consider, where we'll be getting them from, what they'll be made of. Um, including the integrated circuit, which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um, diodes, transistors, resonators, resistors, and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um, and
Donna Robards: Um
Monika Fleury: all their positioning in the circuit.
Donna Robards: Are they all included, like mandatorily, or r are these different options?
Monika Fleury: Uh, these, they're all different options, they're all separate, apart from the chip,
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple, a regular, advanced. We can go into that later. Um, all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately, and work out the most, like, effective um circuit, including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course, that's a light emitting diode. So, we could, so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things,
Donna Robards: Mm.
Monika Fleury: with that as well. Okay, there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery, but that brings with it, like they need to be recharged and the bulk, the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of, environmentally. There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something
Donna Robards: Um
Monika Fleury: that's been recently developed.
Donna Robards: What is a hand-powered dynamo?
Monika Fleury: Um, where you manually charge up the power. Like you
Donna Robards: Just
Monika Fleury: wind
Donna Robards: every,
Monika Fleury: up
Donna Robards: every
Monika Fleury: something.
Donna Robards: once in a while?
Monika Fleury: Sorry?
Donna Robards: Just every once in a while
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: or constantly?
Monika Fleury: Every once in a while I think. But
Donna Robards: Alright.
Monika Fleury: it's
Donna Robards: It'd be kind of strange to always be
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: cranking
Monika Fleury: It would be like
Donna Robards: it
Monika Fleury: going
Donna Robards: I think.
Monika Fleury: a step back
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: in time. I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.
Donna Robards: No.
Monika Fleury: Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices, where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean, the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um, or there's solar power, which we've been considering inside a building, which is where it's gonna be used, might not be quite so
Donna Robards: Right.
Monika Fleury: useful. But, good to look into, renewable energy, always the way. Um, lots of considerations for the case, like what sort of shape it would be, curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back, 'cause it had so many buttons on, and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like
Amy Ballard: Mm.
Monika Fleury: a volume button instead of the on button. Because you can't really see which way round it is.
Donna Robards: Right.
Monika Fleury: Um, we also can choose what materials um, the we could use metal, we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: things like that, so it's very like soft, not so stressful on your hands. Wood. Um, again, stepping back in time again there. I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Um, titanium is not gonna be possible, even though it just it beyond our budget really. But, would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some we've got some good advances in technology, with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for, um, they're basically quite a flexible design, modern, you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: mobiles or computer laptop pads.
Donna Robards: Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It, it we would have to have an L_C_D_ um
Monika Fleury: Yeah. That's true.
Donna Robards: display, and
Monika Fleury: And that would
Donna Robards: the
Monika Fleury: lead to
Donna Robards: glow
Monika Fleury: an advanced
Donna Robards: in the dark thing
Monika Fleury: yeah. If
Donna Robards: might
Monika Fleury: we have
Donna Robards: be difficult.
Monika Fleury: yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: And it's
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget. Um, also we've got the integrated pushbutton, which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. Got decisions to make there. this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um, regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s
Donna Robards: Right.
Monika Fleury: display. My personal preferences? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't, I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before, so it could be quite a, a novelty factor, attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy, you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Sounds brilliant to Amy Ballard. Rubber
Donna Robards: Uh.
Monika Fleury: casing I thing would probably the best, if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um, and gives you, yeah, more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple, then we could possibly have the scroll and the push, but no L_C_D_, 'cause we probably can't afford that one.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Um, one concern with the rubber casing
Monika Fleury: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these chips and diodes and delicate technology as like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.
Monika Fleury: I think that would, uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the, what's in contact with the human.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Another thing is it might be more difficult if it's a rubber exterior talking about putting on interchangeable plates.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: Um, is it I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.
Monika Fleury: Maybe
Alma Cartwright: W
Monika Fleury: if the, um, if it was just kind of a, more of a rubber coating which was on to a case. So, it was kind of, the whole thing would be removable.
Alma Cartwright: Like plastic with rubber, kind
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: of on top
Monika Fleury: Like
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I can't think of what.
Alma Cartwright: Well, there's, there is a certain phone that has like a rubber casing,
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: b like a
Monika Fleury: Or
Alma Cartwright: Nokia
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: like an you
Alma Cartwright: it is.
Monika Fleury: can get
Alma Cartwright: It's
Monika Fleury: sort of outer casing for
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Monika Fleury: iPods and something, that's just
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Like the
Monika Fleury: it's
Amy Ballard: skin?
Monika Fleury: protective as
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: well. It, it stops it, I mean, it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something,
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: as well, 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily.
Donna Robards: Alright.
Monika Fleury: I think
Donna Robards: So maybe
Monika Fleury: i maybe
Donna Robards: the
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Monika Fleury: a mixture of both there,
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: maybe. Yeah.
Amy Ballard: So the actual remote would be hard plastic and
Monika Fleury: And
Amy Ballard: the
Monika Fleury: then
Amy Ballard: casings
Monika Fleury: yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: rubber.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Okay. And the buttons
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: obviously are rubber.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Yeah. That sounds good. I, um, is it possible to put designs onto this type of rubber?
Monika Fleury: As far as I know. It should be.
Donna Robards: Okay, we'll just say yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yes, just why
Monika Fleury: Yeah,
Donna Robards: not.
Monika Fleury: yeah.
Donna Robards: Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea.
Monika Fleury: Yeah. I
Donna Robards: Um,
Monika Fleury: thought that was
Donna Robards: I don't know when people will, um, be moving a remote around a lot.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah,
Donna Robards: But
Alma Cartwright: tha
Donna Robards: I think
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: that it's worth it, kinetety, kinetic um energy source. It could
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: make an we could have any kind of style. It wouldn't be as heavy or bulky, and
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Just for environmental reasons.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: So it seems we'd have to do more research on it. Or I dunno
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: if you could have a battery pack.
Monika Fleury: Like as a
Alma Cartwright: Backup.
Monika Fleury: backup
Amy Ballard: Yeah
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: for
Amy Ballard: so there's
Monika Fleury: something.
Amy Ballard: there is a one because most remotes use two batteries
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: I believe.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: So, if it was running off of one battery as
Alma Cartwright: That
Amy Ballard: a
Alma Cartwright: would be good yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah. Some alternative just in case
Amy Ballard: Right.
Monika Fleury: something went wrong.
Alma Cartwright: Maybe we could you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors, but a lot of calculators,
Monika Fleury: That's true.
Alma Cartwright: yeah,
Monika Fleury: I just thought
Alma Cartwright: have
Monika Fleury: of that.
Alma Cartwright: solar power.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: So maybe could
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: be incorporated
Monika Fleury: May
Alma Cartwright: as
Monika Fleury: maybe that could be the backup.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Instead
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: of a battery.
Amy Ballard: Although
Monika Fleury: Like solar
Amy Ballard: it needs
Monika Fleury: backup.
Amy Ballard: some light, doesn't it?
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Do,
Monika Fleury: I suppose
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Amy Ballard: So,
Alma Cartwright: do
Donna Robards: you
Alma Cartwright: those
Monika Fleury: s
Donna Robards: can
Alma Cartwright: calculators
Monika Fleury: but
Donna Robards: watch
Monika Fleury: some
Donna Robards: a T_V_
Amy Ballard: if
Donna Robards: in the dark
Amy Ballard: we're doing
Donna Robards: then.
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Amy Ballard: yeah. If we're
Monika Fleury: But
Alma Cartwright: I
Monika Fleury: thing
Alma Cartwright: don't
Monika Fleury: is, it's
Alma Cartwright: know how
Monika Fleury: not
Alma Cartwright: it
Monika Fleury: you don't
Alma Cartwright: works.
Monika Fleury: need the solar all the time. It can be stored. It can be like
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: you can
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it. It just needs to be in light for a certain
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: amount of time per day. Like a few
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: hours a day.
Donna Robards: I think that might be a little impractical though.
Amy Ballard: Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under, under a cushion, and
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: That's true. It
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: could
Amy Ballard: yeah.
Monika Fleury: easily
Donna Robards: Like people don't wanna have to worry about that.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think, oh no, I forgot to charge my remote today. Like
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: if the kinetic thing, I think what's
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: best about
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: that is that it's instant energy. You don't have to, you know, you can shake it a few times, or whatever.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: And
Donna Robards: Or just like
Monika Fleury: it
Donna Robards: pick
Monika Fleury: works.
Donna Robards: it up when you're gonna
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah,
Donna Robards: use
Alma Cartwright: I
Donna Robards: it.
Alma Cartwright: suppose.
Monika Fleury: Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Alright. Cool.
Monika Fleury: K okay.
Donna Robards: 'S that the end of your presentation.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Alright. Thank you.
Monika Fleury: There we go.
Alma Cartwright: Thanks.
Alma Cartwright: Oh.
Alma Cartwright: It's not on my screen. Why?
Monika Fleury: it wasn't on mine either. I don't know why. I think,
Alma Cartwright: You
Monika Fleury: I just,
Alma Cartwright: don't know
Monika Fleury: I
Alma Cartwright: why?
Monika Fleury: just used the mouse on there.
Alma Cartwright: Oh okay. Is it that one?
Donna Robards: Yeah. That's
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: um
Alma Cartwright: Um, I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh, first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived, for example, heard or felt maybe, or by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um, there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface, which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device, for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.
Donna Robards: Oh. Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: I'm not really sure about the pictures that maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen.
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Alma Cartwright: Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something.
Donna Robards: Hmm.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Do you think
Monika Fleury: So
Alma Cartwright: it's
Monika Fleury: I suppose sometime
Donna Robards: Yeah, 'cause
Monika Fleury: after you.
Donna Robards: I'm sorry? Um, because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard, so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: You're pressing the numbers
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: for,
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Donna Robards: um,
Alma Cartwright: So you must,
Donna Robards: for what you want.
Alma Cartwright: for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics. Like an
Monika Fleury: I
Alma Cartwright: L_C_D_
Monika Fleury: s I
Alma Cartwright: screen.
Monika Fleury: suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have like the power would be s some kind of symbol.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: And if you wanted to go onto teletext or, I know we're not having that, but
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I mean a similar thing, you, they have there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it, which
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I suppose it's that sort of thing like the,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: the symbol on the button. But if we're having a simplified display anyway, w that, we
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Monika Fleury: probably
Donna Robards: we'll be
Monika Fleury: won't
Donna Robards: doing
Monika Fleury: have to focus so much on that. It'll be more the on the numbers
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: and the
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: volume.
Donna Robards: It'd be more a command interface,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: and
Monika Fleury: I suppose
Donna Robards: then
Monika Fleury: we need to think of symbols for like the volume, display, and
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: stuff like that.
Amy Ballard: So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect? The infrared
Monika Fleury: I
Amy Ballard: is like, that's considered a
Donna Robards: Hmm?
Alma Cartwright: No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the, that's on the buttons of the remote control, and
Amy Ballard: Okay. So when it says
Alma Cartwright: per
Amy Ballard: pointing
Monika Fleury: For inp
Amy Ballard: device that doesn't include
Alma Cartwright: Well it could be a wee scroller thing, and something could come up on the screen.
Donna Robards: Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway, to make
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: it more simplistic.
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: But the, we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points, as in just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe.
Donna Robards: What do you mean?
Alma Cartwright: Like I can't think of an example, but Sort of like little pictures rather than
Donna Robards: Oh yeah, like
Alma Cartwright: Like
Donna Robards: how
Alma Cartwright: a little
Donna Robards: the buttons
Alma Cartwright: sound. Instead of saying volume, like a little speaker or something.
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah,
Amy Ballard: Mm.
Donna Robards: as
Alma Cartwright: something
Donna Robards: a button though.
Alma Cartwright: y
Donna Robards: So, it's a keyboard in the shape of it,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah
Donna Robards: right?
Alma Cartwright: m perha yeah.
Donna Robards: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah. Maybe.
Donna Robards: Yeah. I like that idea.
Alma Cartwright: Um, the co uh we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated, and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um, the remote control would be cheaper to design, so that we'd have more money in the budget to, um, target the design area of the interface. You know, make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.
Donna Robards: Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: A bit more too,
Alma Cartwright: Seeing
Donna Robards: yeah.
Alma Cartwright: as it's quite a new technology. Um We, we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our, um, more user-friendly remote control, that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons, that, um, that their functions, colours and forms aren't always helpful.
Monika Fleury: Yeah. That's true.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: It can be a bit, yeah, overwhelming.
Alma Cartwright: And that all interfaces are different. So, um, that doesn't improve the use of the produ product, so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use.
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: Yep.
Alma Cartwright: Does anyone have any questions?
Donna Robards: Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour, just to keep it, give it a simplistic look.
Alma Cartwright: Mm.
Amy Ballard: I think if we go with the um design plate thing, we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing, and
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: if we
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: wanted to, so and, and we might, I mean, depending on what comes out of the design, we might have to stick to just black buttons.
Alma Cartwright: But um
Donna Robards: But what about the lighting up effect?
Amy Ballard: You mean different colours for the lighting or
Donna Robards: Um, well, um, I thought we had um decided that we would if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: so if they were black, it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.
Amy Ballard: Oh I see what you're saying. Well y
Donna Robards: If they were white they would glow, probably. If they were made out of rubber.
Amy Ballard: Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.
Monika Fleury: Oh.
Amy Ballard: But,
Donna Robards: Oh. Where
Amy Ballard: but
Donna Robards: would the
Amy Ballard: I guess,
Donna Robards: light
Amy Ballard: you
Donna Robards: come
Amy Ballard: mean from
Donna Robards: from?
Amy Ballard: the back. Okay.
Monika Fleury: I'd assume, like, an internal light,
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: that comes through. So there would have to, have to be some parts maybe transparent around
Amy Ballard: Right.
Monika Fleury: the buttons,
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Monika Fleury: or something.
Donna Robards: and well rubber is a more translucent
Monika Fleury: Yeah, yeah.
Donna Robards: product too, so
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: It should be able
Donna Robards: we
Monika Fleury: to
Donna Robards: have that taken care of.
Monika Fleury: mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: In the phone that I was thinking of as well, when you change the um covers of it, the, the little buttons that actually, you know, that contro
Monika Fleury: Li yeah.
Alma Cartwright: control stuff, are behind the rubber. So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do
Amy Ballard: Oh.
Alma Cartwright: you know what I mean?
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Oh.
Alma Cartwright: 'Cause
Amy Ballard: They,
Alma Cartwright: it's
Amy Ballard: they
Alma Cartwright: just
Amy Ballard: insert
Alma Cartwright: the wee control,
Amy Ballard: over.
Alma Cartwright: yeah,
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: thing that's behind it. So
Donna Robards: Mm.
Alma Cartwright: I mean, we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe?
Monika Fleury: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: Well, if they're raised up buttons.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: So that you can feel them. We were talking about it being more um, a
Amy Ballard: T
Donna Robards: lot more tangible. Um, it might be more difficult to do.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: If they're, if they're sticking up. If it's flat then, like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone, it's like all very flat, and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons, but
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean, the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the, the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing, without
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: causing too much difficulty. I'm sure
Donna Robards: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: that'd be fine.
Donna Robards: Alright. If it's do-able we can do. Yeah, sounds good to Amy Ballard.
Alma Cartwright: So that's everything, then?
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: Alright, thank you.
Amy Ballard: Okay is that my turn then?
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Alright. I have a shorter report for you today. Um, it took a while to get this, uh Uh.
Monika Fleury: You're not plugged in yet.
Amy Ballard: Oh. That's a very good point.
Amy Ballard: Okay, so um, this report is about uh trend-watching. Um, basically so we can live up to our, our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um So, just so you know, my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan, New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years, here at Real Remote. Um, just so c we can work off of them, see how fashions have changed. Um, so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um, and they, they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh, the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um, this should be our priority, as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So, I think we've done a lot of talking about that, just with lighting and the buttons and the face-plates. Um, so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use. So, pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update, uh, according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan, is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. Um, also, in contra uh in contrast to last year, the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again, we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um So, my personal preferences here, um of course, as we, we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting, and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes, I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware. I don't
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Amy Ballard: know if we wanna do it on remotes. It could be one of the options. Maybe
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Amy Ballard: for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um, the temporary light-up idea, sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then, uh, tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Yeah, it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring.
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: Everything
Monika Fleury: It
Donna Robards: else
Monika Fleury: is
Donna Robards: we
Monika Fleury: strange.
Donna Robards: can really, we can really um, do, according to our plans already, given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange
Amy Ballard: It's,
Donna Robards: idea
Amy Ballard: it's
Donna Robards: for
Amy Ballard: a little
Donna Robards: a remote
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: control.
Monika Fleury: Well
Amy Ballard: but it, it's everywhere. So maybe
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: we I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them, you know. But
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: I I think, I think if we stick to T_V_ based, you know, maybe T_V_ shows, or
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Or
Donna Robards: But they
Amy Ballard: colour
Donna Robards: still
Amy Ballard: schemes.
Donna Robards: need to
Monika Fleury: We
Donna Robards: um fit into people's decor though.
Amy Ballard: Right.
Monika Fleury: I think we possibly could take a more abstract design. Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry, but it could have the curves of a strawberry,
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: or something.
Amy Ballard: The
Alma Cartwright: Yeah,
Monika Fleury: Or a strawberry seed
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Monika Fleury: or
Amy Ballard: The
Monika Fleury: a leaf.
Amy Ballard: essence of strawberry.
Monika Fleury: Or just
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: like
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: you know really make it a quite abstract, if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: of fruits and vegetables, just
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: if you look at it straightforward, it's a bit yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy well, obviously it does, if that's the current
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: theme. But may maybe we could go more directly, I don't know.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: But initially, I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit.
Donna Robards: Tone
Amy Ballard: I guess,
Donna Robards: it down.
Monika Fleury: Yeah
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: yeah.
Donna Robards: like more
Monika Fleury: and
Donna Robards: like
Monika Fleury: like not,
Donna Robards: photos
Monika Fleury: not
Donna Robards: of fruit,
Monika Fleury: yeah.
Donna Robards: on,
Alma Cartwright: Or
Donna Robards: on our product.
Alma Cartwright: banana-shaped.
Amy Ballard: One thing I was thinking though is I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting, we talked about our favourite animals.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: So maybe there could be animal-based, you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or, or a dog.
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Amy Ballard: Um, that might be getting, you know, too specific, and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind.
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Amy Ballard: And, did you have any questions? Pretty straightforward?
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah um
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Alright, given that information, we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.
Amy Ballard: There you go.
Amy Ballard: Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the
Monika Fleury: I didn't for the first one.
Amy Ballard: okay.
Monika Fleury: But I have now.
Donna Robards: But it's still around right?
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Okay.
Monika Fleury: Uh,
Alma Cartwright: Where
Monika Fleury: hopefully.
Alma Cartwright: do you have to save it to?
Monika Fleury: Project documents I think.
Alma Cartwright: Okay.
Donna Robards: Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now.
Donna Robards: Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: energy, we oh.
Monika Fleury: 'Kay.
Donna Robards: Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting. Does anyone know how to take it out of Um,
Alma Cartwright: Just
Amy Ballard: The PowerPoint?
Alma Cartwright: escape
Donna Robards: yeah.
Alma Cartwright: I think.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Okay. Um, so back to decisions. Energy, we've decided on kinetic,
Monika Fleury: Kinetic
Donna Robards: right?
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: yeah.
Donna Robards: Okay, so that's good.
Monika Fleury: Are we going to have a backup?
Donna Robards: Hmm.
Monika Fleury: Or do we just
Donna Robards: But would a backup really be necessary? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no, if there's,
Monika Fleury: I think maybe
Donna Robards: if there is backup.
Monika Fleury: we could just go for the kinetic energy, and be bold and innovative, and
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: hope this works, and well hope that it works.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: I think yeah.
Donna Robards: There's
Monika Fleury: I think
Donna Robards: like no reason why it wouldn't work,
Monika Fleury: no.
Donna Robards: right?
Amy Ballard: So
Monika Fleury: I, I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.
Donna Robards: Yeah. It
Monika Fleury: Go
Donna Robards: could even
Monika Fleury: for
Donna Robards: be
Monika Fleury: it.
Donna Robards: one of our selling points.
Monika Fleury: It could
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: be fully
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: kinetic energy.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Environmentally conscious
Monika Fleury: Is
Donna Robards: or something.
Amy Ballard: So
Monika Fleury: everyone
Amy Ballard: if it's
Monika Fleury: happy
Amy Ballard: not working
Monika Fleury: with that?
Amy Ballard: they just have to shake it a bit and that revitalises
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: it?
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Hope so.
Donna Robards: Alright, the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.
Monika Fleury: Um, it was whether we went for the simple, the regular, or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have, so
Donna Robards: Right, and we were going for more simplistic style, right?
Monika Fleury: Yeah, it
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: was so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: doing the advanced. So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.
Donna Robards: I think we decided on the pushbuttons, right?
Alma Cartwright: Yeah. I
Monika Fleury: Uh,
Alma Cartwright: don
Monika Fleury: so that's
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Monika Fleury: the simple.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting, the interior lighting system?
Monika Fleury: Yeah possibly. So, it's
Donna Robards: Yeah?
Monika Fleury: probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need. So it's a
Donna Robards: Okay.
Monika Fleury: medium. So regular
Donna Robards: That's called
Monika Fleury: chip.
Donna Robards: medium, or regular?
Monika Fleury: Regular sorry.
Donna Robards: 'Kay.
Monika Fleury: Regular chip.
Amy Ballard: Oh, is regular not simple?
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Lighting. Yeah
Alma Cartwright: It's for
Monika Fleury: if
Alma Cartwright: the lighting,
Monika Fleury: we
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Monika Fleury: because of the lighting that we've decided to put
Amy Ballard: Right
Monika Fleury: in as
Amy Ballard: right
Monika Fleury: well.
Amy Ballard: right.
Donna Robards: Okay, and cases. Um,
Monika Fleury: So
Donna Robards: does
Monika Fleury: th
Donna Robards: this, is this dependent on shape, or what it's made of, or what?
Monika Fleury: I think this is just like gonna be the a very outer case, which we will decide on rubber.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah. Well, I guess plastic and
Monika Fleury: Rubber.
Donna Robards: coated
Alma Cartwright: Yeah
Donna Robards: in rubber.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Plastic
Monika Fleury: Plastic
Alma Cartwright: plastic
Monika Fleury: rubber
Alma Cartwright: coat.
Monika Fleury: coat.
Donna Robards: with rubber coating and interchangeable
Monika Fleury: Interchangeable,
Donna Robards: um
Monika Fleury: yeah. Still going for that.
Donna Robards: yeah, interchangeable
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: plates. Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine.
Alma Cartwright: We decided on the component. I, I I'm sorry, I've lost my um PowerPoint
Monika Fleury: Your screen?
Alma Cartwright: thing, so I can't remember what it's
Amy Ballard: Think
Alma Cartwright: ca
Amy Ballard: it was
Alma Cartwright: it's
Amy Ballard: called
Alma Cartwright: the
Amy Ballard: command
Alma Cartwright: component
Amy Ballard: interface.
Monika Fleury: Was it
Donna Robards: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Command interface,
Alma Cartwright: The command
Donna Robards: Command
Alma Cartwright: inter
Donna Robards: interface.
Monika Fleury: Ouch.
Alma Cartwright: The command line interface yeah.
Donna Robards: Did you say command line?
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Okay. Line interface. Alright, and supplements. What's that all about?
Alma Cartwright: Um, I think that is well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions, colours and forms, in the in consistent use Like. what what are ideas to combat these problems?
Donna Robards: Um
Alma Cartwright: You know how um different interfaces are very different, and can be confusing because because of their difference, and because of
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: the different clusters of buttons that they have. We haven't really decided what to do about that.
Donna Robards: Um, what are our choices here?
Alma Cartwright: Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have?
Donna Robards: You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels, and we'll have
Monika Fleury: The power.
Donna Robards: the channel-changer, and volume,
Monika Fleury: Volume.
Donna Robards: and power?
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: So pretty
Donna Robards: Um
Alma Cartwright: just just the basic
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: button
Donna Robards: Like I
Alma Cartwright: functions.
Donna Robards: don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels, things like that, because different televisions will have
Monika Fleury: May yeah. Tone, contrast,
Donna Robards: Um,
Monika Fleury: and things.
Donna Robards: yeah.
Monika Fleury: That's a bit
Amy Ballard: That was on, um one of my presentations. About how often it was used. Do you remember that?
Monika Fleury: Yeah, it
Donna Robards: Yep.
Monika Fleury: was minima well,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: it wasn't
Donna Robards: Yeah,
Monika Fleury: the
Donna Robards: it was
Monika Fleury: l
Donna Robards: hardly ever used
Amy Ballard: I w
Donna Robards: really.
Amy Ballard: Should I bring it up?
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah. That
Donna Robards: And
Monika Fleury: would
Donna Robards: most televisions
Monika Fleury: be good.
Donna Robards: will come with a remote.
Monika Fleury: Yeah, and surely that would be like quite specific to
Alma Cartwright: Yeah,
Monika Fleury: the
Alma Cartwright: each
Monika Fleury: individual
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: television.
Monika Fleury: television, so
Donna Robards: 'Kay, well we know we want numbers.
Amy Ballard: The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every once every two hours. Um, and it was considered a one point five relevance, on a scale of ten. That's brightness, colour, tone,
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Amy Ballard: all that.
Alma Cartwright: You don't change
Monika Fleury: I think most
Alma Cartwright: that
Monika Fleury: of that comes
Alma Cartwright: often,
Monika Fleury: like on the
Alma Cartwright: yeah.
Monika Fleury: i individual television set itself, doesn't it? I'm sure it has
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: Yeah, it
Monika Fleury: its
Donna Robards: does.
Monika Fleury: own buttons, so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.
Donna Robards: Yeah, and
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: different televisions. Like we, I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: of
Monika Fleury: So
Donna Robards: changes
Monika Fleury: we're just going
Donna Robards: like that.
Monika Fleury: for power, channels,
Donna Robards: Volume.
Monika Fleury: volume,
Amy Ballard: The other one was audio settings. Mono, stereo, pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style, movie style,
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: um and that, they say that's used zero point eight times an hour, which is actually somewhat high. Like
Monika Fleury: Mm.
Amy Ballard: almost once an hour.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Um, relevance of two.
Donna Robards: Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting. Crap. Okay, um, let's do this fast. Um
Amy Ballard: Well that didn't some up on mine.
Donna Robards: Should we have audio? It only comes up on mine usually.
Alma Cartwright: It w it
Amy Ballard: Oh.
Alma Cartwright: would seem silly if we'd having anything else, just have an audio button though. Do you know?
Donna Robards: Yeah, I don't, I it's, it's a problem with the international uh appeal, I think. Um, if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work.
Alma Cartwright: But
Donna Robards: But we
Alma Cartwright: we
Donna Robards: know that everyone has this and it's the same.
Amy Ballard: Yeah I guess
Monika Fleury: I've
Amy Ballard: that it affects the marketing, 'cause it, mm it is a good sales ploy to say, aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: This one has channel, volume
Monika Fleury: Yeah, that's it.
Amy Ballard: and your
Alma Cartwright: That
Amy Ballard: channe
Monika Fleury: We
Alma Cartwright: could
Monika Fleury: can
Alma Cartwright: be
Monika Fleury: just
Amy Ballard: and
Alma Cartwright: a
Monika Fleury: go
Amy Ballard: your
Alma Cartwright: sales
Amy Ballard: power.
Monika Fleury: for,
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: make
Alma Cartwright: pitch.
Monika Fleury: it a
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: selling point that it is just
Alma Cartwright: Simple
Monika Fleury: the basic.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: and
Monika Fleury: Yeah uh I
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Alright.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: brilliant.
Donna Robards: Good. And, okay, in closing, 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um, you'll be working, Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right?
Monika Fleury: Mm-hmm.
Donna Robards: Yep, and um the user interface design, so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um, Poppy and Tara will have to work together, using modelling clay. And, um, your personal coach will give you the rest of the information of what needs to happen.
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: Alright. So, anyone else have something to say?
Monika Fleury: Um, I just have one question about
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: the whole fruit and vegetable aspect.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Monika Fleury: Are we seeing as that was the most popular thing that came up out of your market research, I thi I think we should keep to that rather than moving to animals or something, because
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: even if that may not seem obvious to us, if that's what the surveys brought out, I think that we should probably go along with that.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Um, so I suppose that'll come out in our dev design development. But you're happy to go ahead with the fruit and
Amy Ballard: Now
Monika Fleury: veg?
Amy Ballard: do you guys need want an idea of how many uh are you gonna come up with casing ideas? Like f
Monika Fleury: Y
Amy Ballard: five different
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: What I
Donna Robards: five.
Alma Cartwright: What I was thinking what do yous think of this? Um, having the numbers kind of like, not a bunch of grapes, but you know like purple and kind of in a triangle.
Amy Ballard: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: Like grapes.
Amy Ballard: Yeah you
Alma Cartwright: Like
Amy Ballard: can have
Alma Cartwright: that's
Amy Ballard: some fun
Alma Cartwright: kind
Amy Ballard: with
Alma Cartwright: of
Amy Ballard: the buttons, it's
Alma Cartwright: fruity
Amy Ballard: true.
Donna Robards: Mm-hmm.
Alma Cartwright: or something. That's
Amy Ballard: Yeah.
Alma Cartwright: just
Monika Fleury: We can have a look at those ideas, yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: I guess what you i ideally you'd kind of think of age markets as well. So it's
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: a something that will, you know, appeal to the fifteen to twenty five year olds. Something that your granny would want on her remote control. Um,
Monika Fleury: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Amy Ballard: and international tastes as well, so
Monika Fleury: Tricky.
Amy Ballard: Not easy.
Monika Fleury: A lot
Donna Robards: Yeah.
Monika Fleury: of things to consider.
Alma Cartwright: Yeah.
Donna Robards: Lots
Monika Fleury: Hm.
Donna Robards: of yeah. Alright.
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Donna Robards: 'Kay we'll stick to the fruit and veggie theme then. Alright. And, um, we'll reconvene in thirty minutes.
Monika Fleury: Okay.
Alma Cartwright: Okay.
Donna Robards: 'Kay.
Amy Ballard: Okay.
Donna Robards: Bye.
Monika Fleury: Thank you.
Donna Robards: I'll see you later. Oh, what did I just do. Okay. | Donna Robards opens this conceptual design meeting and gives them the agenda. Monika Fleury presents first and talks about the components of a remote, energy source options, and materials for the remote, case, and buttons. The interface specialist presents the interface concept by explaining the difference between graphical and command interface. They decide the command interface is most useful for a remote because it is simpler and more user-friendly. The group discusses aspects of the user interface including the lighting up effect and material of the buttons. Amy Ballard presents on trend-watching and talks about how fruit and vegetables are an important fashion theme this year, and says the material used is expected to be spongy. The group discusses how they could implement these fashion trends into the design, then finalizes a few decisions about the components, materials, and energy sources. Donna Robards closes the meeting, stating what each member's next task will be. | 2 | amisum | test |
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Bunny England: Or you get it. Okay.
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Bunny England: Yeah.
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Kaye Joslin: So, good morning, everyone. Um Welcome uh at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project. I hope you all have been uh updated about it.
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Good.
Cheryl Knight: So. Yes.
Kaye Joslin: So w we will try to structure this uh meeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here. Um after the opening we will tr get acquainted to each other. See what our roles are in this project. So, um We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh to communicate and to well, learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh to get acquainted to this tools so they are also new to Debra Allen I don't know whether you worked with them before. Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan. You all know I hope how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going
Cheryl Knight: Total.
Kaye Joslin: to design. Uh then we will uh discuss uh, well, how it should be and uh wh what uh what our new product should look lite like. And uh well then uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting. So. Um basically this is about a uh a new c remote control. Um We When you design a new product you of uh you of course want it to be original. Be uh we want to be distinguished, mm? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think, well that's the product I I need. So it needs to be trendy. I mean trendy is what people want, so then I w they will buy our product. But then, uh, it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it will not be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that. So, the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through a functional design phase. Um You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase and uh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design. And the same holds for the uh ph two phases uh after this, the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the final project should get its definite shape. Alright, but first we will do some uh tool training. In all in front of you uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a a a white-board.
Cheryl Knight: Whitebo
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: And um well it should work uh I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work with some kind of toolbar. I didn't find out yet how it work, but maybe one of you did, so Um
Bunny England: Under documents in the shared folder. Okay.
Kaye Joslin: Yes. Do Do we have to say something about that? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared folder uh.
Bunny England: Yeah, I guess we'll have a shared folder uh with documents that we can share.
Kaye Joslin: Yes
Bunny England: yeah.
Kaye Joslin: well we will then find out ho how it works.
Bunny England: Yes.
Kaye Joslin: Um. Well, this seems to Debra Allen, yes, some computer program but I didn't find it yet. So, we'll come to that later. So, uh now we will try out the white-board we have here. So, I would suggest uh
Bunny England: Each of us is going.
Kaye Joslin: Well, yes, um we uh we should try to t to draw on it and then well it should be smart some way. I I'm not really sure how this works, but
Bunny England: Okay, shall I start?
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah,
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: you
Kaye Joslin: Yes,
Cheryl Knight: can start
Kaye Joslin: a good
Cheryl Knight: it
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Cheryl Knight: you know.
Debra Allen: I think for us
Kaye Joslin: Mael.
Debra Allen: it's just like a normal whiteboard, but they'll be recording
Bunny England: So,
Debra Allen: what we
Bunny England: i
Debra Allen: write down.
Cheryl Knight: No they will record through that. There's a sensor over
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: there which is going to record
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: the strokes
Debra Allen: But
Cheryl Knight: that
Debra Allen: for
Cheryl Knight: you
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Kaye Joslin: Okay.
Cheryl Knight: make.
Debra Allen: it's just like a normal whiteboard.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: 'Kay.
Bunny England: But it's Actually, I think I cannot go with uh
Kaye Joslin: You you D doesn't it work? Maybe someo Maybe maybe Anna, maybe
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: Yeah.
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Debra Allen: I have
Kaye Joslin: So
Debra Allen: to draw.
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Kaye Joslin: the white-board.
Debra Allen: my my favourite animal. Sorry this is all tangled up here.
Kaye Joslin: Oh, I see uh
Debra Allen: That's better.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Yeah. Yes. Mm. So draw it. We will try to
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: guess what it is.
Debra Allen: I'm a very bad drawer. Weird. my drawing. I'm a bad drawer. Okay.
Kaye Joslin: Mm.
Debra Allen: They're
Cheryl Knight: 's a
Debra Allen: ears,
Cheryl Knight: cat.
Debra Allen: by the way. No. Um close though. Okay so like a pet animal.
Bunny England: Okay.
Debra Allen: Like a cat.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: It's like a cat, so I guess it's a cat.
Debra Allen: No, not a cat though.
Kaye Joslin: What is this now?
Cheryl Knight: Ah you forget about it.
Bunny England: You're on the knife.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah, uh I think it's fine. I just don't want to carry it off. Man, this wires, eh? We need a wireless microphone. You know? Pro specially we should next project we should take l like that.
Kaye Joslin: So,
Debra Allen: Okay. So.
Kaye Joslin: that's
Debra Allen: It's
Kaye Joslin: the cat.
Debra Allen: not a
Kaye Joslin: Oh.
Debra Allen: cat, it's
Cheryl Knight: So.
Debra Allen: a dog.
Bunny England: Mael.
Kaye Joslin: It's a dog.
Debra Allen: Yes.
Kaye Joslin: So but that's also kind of
Cheryl Knight: Oh
Kaye Joslin: cat,
Cheryl Knight: the dog
Kaye Joslin: isn't
Cheryl Knight: doesn't
Kaye Joslin: it?
Cheryl Knight: have a tail?
Debra Allen: It's
Kaye Joslin: B
Debra Allen: got a tail then.
Kaye Joslin: bo
Cheryl Knight: Yeah,
Kaye Joslin: both predators.
Cheryl Knight: sure, yeah.
Debra Allen: Yeah yeah.
Cheryl Knight: I thought so. The dogs have a tail.
Kaye Joslin: So, thank
Debra Allen: So do
Kaye Joslin: you.
Debra Allen: cats.
Kaye Joslin: Uh d did you uh
Debra Allen: And you guessed cats
Kaye Joslin: work
Debra Allen: without
Kaye Joslin: out
Debra Allen: a
Kaye Joslin: cord?
Debra Allen: tail.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Bunny England: Yeah, I think I will go without
Debra Allen: Okay.
Bunny England: without it, right?
Kaye Joslin: Okay.
Cheryl Knight: It'll still not extend, right? It's not up to that.
Debra Allen: Okay, there you go. So what favourite characteristics. Uh. Dogs are always friendly and loyal and fun.
Debra Allen: A horse?
Cheryl Knight: It's a horse.
Debra Allen: This is why you're the designer. And I'm marketing.
Kaye Joslin: Yes. Yes, yes this is Yes definitely a horse. Yes. Oh very good. So
Debra Allen: Ah
Kaye Joslin: I suppose
Cheryl Knight: Ah
Kaye Joslin: it
Cheryl Knight: I think you can put that.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm. That's it. A blue and black zebra.
Kaye Joslin: Yes. Can you can meet them in Africa, I think. Yes. Very good. So
Debra Allen: The very rare blue zebras. Yes.
Cheryl Knight: I'll
Kaye Joslin: Ma Matthew?
Cheryl Knight: tell to get it off my Uh? Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: So
Debra Allen: You got a lot
Kaye Joslin: Maybe
Debra Allen: of room here. You can probably reach.
Cheryl Knight: Oh y it's not for that.
Debra Allen: No?
Cheryl Knight: No.
Kaye Joslin: I hope you have some space in your uh the
Cheryl Knight: Okay.
Kaye Joslin: horse
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: of uh Mael.
Cheryl Knight: So what should I draw? Mm. He has already to do cat.
Debra Allen: I took a dog.
Debra Allen: Um. A mouse?
Kaye Joslin: This looks likes a cat who has been driven over.
Debra Allen: Okay.
Bunny England: Yeah. And we should sum up its favourite charas characteristics, right?
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: So
Kaye Joslin: That's that's definitely a cat.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: Uh yeah. And i Th They like to sleep, that's why you said you they are like this. Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: It's quite, you know relaxed situation. Yes.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: Yes, okay.
Bunny England: She has the small legs.
Kaye Joslin: Th thank you, Matthew.
Bunny England: Yeah. Thank you, Matthew.
Debra Allen: It's
Bunny England: Perfect.
Debra Allen: a very big rat. Or a very small
Bunny England: Oh
Debra Allen: cat.
Bunny England: a rat, okay.
Kaye Joslin: Yes, this is certain uh some contribution to our
Bunny England: And
Kaye Joslin: project.
Bunny England: you,
Debra Allen: Mm 'kay. Your turn.
Kaye Joslin: So. Let's see. Which animal has not been drawn yet.
Kaye Joslin: So you've all drawn land animals, so why not draw an animal from
Bunny England: A bird.
Kaye Joslin: the water.
Bunny England: Okay, in the water.
Debra Allen: Ah I don't know what that is. It's
Bunny England: Mm.
Debra Allen: a bit It's a bit hard to guess.
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: So
Bunny England: Put it colours. Maybe it would help
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Bunny England: us.
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Cheryl Knight: The cat is going to eat the fish or
Bunny England: With
Cheryl Knight: the
Bunny England: different
Cheryl Knight: rat?
Bunny England: pen widths.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm
Kaye Joslin: So
Debra Allen: Oh, it's a shark now.
Bunny England: Ah it's a shark, yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Oh, yes, why not? Good idea.
Cheryl Knight: Ah it's a baby shark, it looks to Debra Allen, you
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: know it's going to eat the cat rather than the cat eating the fish,
Bunny England: Oh.
Cheryl Knight: no?
Debra Allen: Now it's a swordfish.
Kaye Joslin: Why not.
Bunny England: You
Kaye Joslin: A swordfish.
Bunny England: have some in in Australia, right?
Debra Allen: Swordfish.
Bunny England: Yeah.
Debra Allen: Um,
Bunny England: I dunno.
Debra Allen: maybe. I've never
Bunny England: Oh
Debra Allen: seen
Bunny England: well.
Debra Allen: one, no.
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: I hope it still works.
Bunny England: Perfect.
Kaye Joslin: So
Bunny England: So I dunno if we need to spend time on that, actually But uh
Cheryl Knight: You should go for the
Kaye Joslin: W
Cheryl Knight: next
Kaye Joslin: Well,
Cheryl Knight: one
Kaye Joslin: this
Cheryl Knight: it seems to
Kaye Joslin: uh
Cheryl Knight: Debra Allen.
Kaye Joslin: this tool seemed to work.
Bunny England: Yeah,
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: exactly,
Kaye Joslin: Let's continue
Bunny England: yeah.
Kaye Joslin: to uh to
Bunny England: Wow.
Kaye Joslin: the real stuff. Um our project uh finance uh thing. Uh when we are and when w you are uh going to design w uh we must keep in mind that the selling price of the product uh will be about twenty five Euros, so when designing
Cheryl Knight: Twenty four.
Kaye Joslin: a project uh I also look at you uh Mael,
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: keep in mind uh uh uh People uh want to get the feeling this is a twenty five Euro project uh pr um
Bunny England: Per remote control,
Kaye Joslin: product.
Bunny England: yeah?
Debra Allen: Mm.
Bunny England: Per project.
Kaye Joslin: Yes. Okay. Um more interesting for our company of course, p uh profit aim, about fifty million Euro. So we have to sell uh quite a lot of this uh um things. Uh we will try to uh to get at a international market uh so um it will be I think mainly Europe and uh Northern America,
Cheryl Knight: Ah yeah, the sale man,
Kaye Joslin: maybe
Cheryl Knight: four
Kaye Joslin: some uh
Cheryl Knight: million.
Kaye Joslin: Asian countries. Um also important for you all is um the the product uh production cost must be maximal uh twelve uh twelve Euro
Bunny England: So it's
Kaye Joslin: and fifty cents.
Bunny England: half of the selling price, if I am good in
Kaye Joslin: Yes,
Bunny England: mathematics.
Kaye Joslin: of course. Uh um I mean we still have to uh to make a profit, huh?
Bunny England: Of
Cheryl Knight: They
Bunny England: course.
Cheryl Knight: have to sell
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: at least
Kaye Joslin: You
Cheryl Knight: four
Kaye Joslin: all
Cheryl Knight: million
Kaye Joslin: have to be paid.
Cheryl Knight: to make a profit
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: Ah
Kaye Joslin: Excuse
Cheryl Knight: we have
Kaye Joslin: Debra Allen?
Cheryl Knight: to make we have to sell at least four million to make our own profit.
Bunny England: Oh
Cheryl Knight: Fifty
Bunny England: you're g very
Cheryl Knight: mill
Bunny England: good in mathematics.
Debra Allen: Yes.
Kaye Joslin: Yes,
Bunny England: Four
Kaye Joslin: indeed.
Bunny England: million.
Kaye Joslin: So uh
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: well I think w when we are working on the international market, uh in principle it has enough customers uh so when we have a good product we uh we could uh meet this this aim, I think. So, that about finance. And uh now just let have some discussion about what is a good remote control and uh well keep in mind this this first point, it has to be original, it has to be trendy, it has to be user friendly. Um, maybe someone can mention some additional uh prerequisites for
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: a good remote control.
Cheryl Knight: Of course it should have a on off button.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: Yes, well i it should have the the the the expected functionality
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: uh of a remote control.
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah, s and it depends what application you are using it for.
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: You might need uh
Kaye Joslin: We wer we were thinking television. Uh.
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: We are targ targeting the television set. So,
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: you need to record the channels.
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Mm-hmm.
Cheryl Knight: You need to browse the browse the channels in upward
Kaye Joslin: Yes,
Cheryl Knight: downward
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: way,
Kaye Joslin: yes. Th th that's very handy I I always miss it and on
Cheryl Knight: Uh
Kaye Joslin: some remote controls that
Cheryl Knight: And
Kaye Joslin: you can go channel up or down ins instead of
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: retyping the number, especially
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: when you have a lot
Cheryl Knight: Uh,
Kaye Joslin: of channels.
Cheryl Knight: and
Bunny England: And uh just before starting the detailed discussion, maybe we You are the marketing guy? Or
Debra Allen: I'm marketing.
Bunny England: th
Cheryl Knight: Marketing.
Bunny England: So you are the marketing.
Debra Allen: Yep.
Bunny England: And you are in the u use user interface
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Bunny England: uh
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Bunny England: design. So
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Bunny England: just yeah I wanted to to be sure.
Cheryl Knight: Sure.
Bunny England: And I I'm the Bunny England
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: okay.
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Bunny England: Because I
Cheryl Knight: Oh.
Bunny England: I don't know you very well, actually,
Cheryl Knight: I'm
Bunny England: but
Cheryl Knight: Matthew.
Bunny England: yeah. Okay.
Cheryl Knight: You know.
Bunny England: Mael.
Cheryl Knight: Matth
Bunny England: Happy to meet you.
Cheryl Knight: s uh
Debra Allen: Anna.
Bunny England: Okay.
Cheryl Knight: Anna.
Bunny England: It's very
Cheryl Knight: And
Kaye Joslin: A and
Bunny England: uh
Kaye Joslin: I'm Nanne.
Cheryl Knight: um uh Matthew, yeah. I
Kaye Joslin: So
Cheryl Knight: thi
Bunny England: Uh
Cheryl Knight: think you know
Bunny England: so
Cheryl Knight: Debra Allen, yeah?
Bunny England: yeah
Cheryl Knight: right
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Cheryl Knight: yeah.
Bunny England: uh Just uh on your web page but uh yeah not uh
Kaye Joslin: So. Um
Bunny England: not face to face.
Kaye Joslin: S
Cheryl Knight: So.
Bunny England: So
Kaye Joslin: S
Bunny England: mm
Kaye Joslin: s
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: Are
Cheryl Knight: So
Bunny England: So
Kaye Joslin: there
Bunny England: I
Kaye Joslin: some other very important things to to do well, to specify in this first phase of of the project. So the browse function,
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: as you m
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: mentioned.
Cheryl Knight: And
Debra Allen: Oth
Cheryl Knight: uh,
Debra Allen: yeah.
Cheryl Knight: you'd need the usual ones, like the changing the volume, changing the the channel and then
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Cheryl Knight: you
Kaye Joslin: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: uh Today we have uh um teletext and all those things. Tomorrow you might have a some more functions which might come through that,
Kaye Joslin: Yes.
Debra Allen: Mm.
Bunny England: Like
Cheryl Knight: so
Bunny England: what? Like internet on
Cheryl Knight: Yeah
Bunny England: the
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: I_P_O_
Bunny England: on
Cheryl Knight: or.
Bunny England: T_V_?
Cheryl Knight: Now we are looking for television things or I_P_. For
Bunny England: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: example personal video recorder
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: and all those stuffs are coming up.
Debra Allen: But we can't really design
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Debra Allen: for something that hasn't been invented yet.
Cheryl Knight: Ah it's it's it's it's coming up, actually. The personal video recorder and all those
Kaye Joslin: Mm,
Cheryl Knight: things it is coming
Kaye Joslin: well
Cheryl Knight: up.
Kaye Joslin: uh I I think Uh
Bunny England: Actually,
Kaye Joslin: w
Bunny England: yeah
Cheryl Knight: Let's
Kaye Joslin: y
Bunny England: w
Cheryl Knight: Let's take
Kaye Joslin: you two should should, I think, think this over uh w espec what, what functionality.
Bunny England: Of course, and first before um designing the func well thinking about the functionalities, we need to know what are the user requirements.
Debra Allen: Mm. Yeah.
Bunny England: Um
Kaye Joslin: Mm-hmm.
Bunny England: then
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Bunny England: if they need internet, then we
Debra Allen: Mm.
Bunny England: would be able to to p to propose something
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Bunny England: with uh uh T_V_ over I_P_. But
Debra Allen: But
Bunny England: before
Debra Allen: Ninety percent of the time, ninety nine percent of the time, people will be using the main functions, the volume, the different channels, so we can have all the fancy things as well but the main controls need to be very obvious and very easy
Kaye Joslin: Mm
Debra Allen: to use.
Kaye Joslin: mm mm. Keep k keep in mind i it's a it's a twenty five Euro unit, so uh uh the the very fancy stuff uh w we can leave that out, I think. So
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: twenty five Euro you expect a quite, well normal but
Debra Allen: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: good functioning user friendly remote control.
Cheryl Knight: Oh in that case you can you always hook up with uh someone who is providing that and you know, you you sell their product as well as your product with them,
Debra Allen: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: you know.
Bunny England: Yeah,
Debra Allen: So
Bunny England: but
Debra Allen: try
Bunny England: w
Debra Allen: and
Bunny England: w
Debra Allen: get T_V_
Bunny England: we
Debra Allen: manufacturers
Bunny England: want to design
Debra Allen: to
Bunny England: a new one.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah. No, it's okay, yeah I understand.
Bunny England: Mm.
Cheryl Knight: So we need
Bunny England: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: some numbering buttons, some teletext things and then um
Bunny England: The Yeah, the main is
Kaye Joslin: Yes, but
Bunny England: browsing.
Kaye Joslin: but but ab
Bunny England: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: about the spec the buttons, the
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: buttons uh that will be on it. I I think we can discuss that in the in the next meeting.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: Uh I would like to get this wrapped up and go to an end of this meeting.
Cheryl Knight: Okay.
Kaye Joslin: So
Cheryl Knight: Okay, we are alread mm.
Bunny England: Okay.
Kaye Joslin: So
Cheryl Knight: Mm.
Kaye Joslin: you know now the basic the basic things.
Cheryl Knight: Yeah.
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: And well just
Cheryl Knight: L
Kaye Joslin: just for the next meeting, um well, uh, you wor yes, work on a design, keep it general, I mean so w we will be still fle flexible with maybe adding some functions.
Bunny England: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: So Um you will be working on on technical function design, so
Cheryl Knight: Yeah, sure.
Kaye Joslin: And uh you and you and uh uh uh well, think about requirements, eh?
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: Does it need internet, or or do do we stay at
Cheryl Knight: Stam.
Kaye Joslin: basic
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Kaye Joslin: basic television uh interface. So, uh I think we should now all go work uh uh at this and uh
Debra Allen: Mm-hmm.
Kaye Joslin: you will be informed via email and other kind of communication.
Debra Allen: Yeah.
Cheryl Knight: Okay.
Kaye Joslin: So
Bunny England: Perfect.
Kaye Joslin: next meeting will be in uh in thirty minutes uh. K keep it in mind. | The meeting begins with the group trying to resolve some equipment issues and waiting for Anna's arrival. Then Kaye Joslin introduces the meeting by saying they have some technical tools with which to communicate so they will try to get acquainted with them first. He starts talking about the product they are to design, a remote control which should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The general outline of the project will be the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They do some tool training by trying out the whiteboard, and each person draws his/her favorite animal on it. Kaye Joslin proceeds to talk about the project finance, which is followed by a group discussion about what functions a good remote control has. This includes the basics such as on/off, channel up/down browsing, volume and record button(s). At this point they clarify their names and roles in the group and then resume talking about remote control functions. They discuss some functions such as a personal video recorder, but say it is probable that they cannot produce a fancy device given their budget. Kaye Joslin closes the meeting by telling each group member what he/she will be working on. | 2 | amisum | test |
Imelda Stocker: Right first time this time. Nu There we go. It's not that complicated, but I get it wrong every time.
Jane Vonholt: Okay so we are just waiting for
Imelda Stocker: For
Jane Vonholt: Matthew.
Imelda Stocker: Matthew, yep.
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: Uh
Alberta Pedro: So I suggest we start the uh without
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: Matthew uh
Jane Vonholt: Mm 'kay.
Alberta Pedro: he's uh obviously late for some reason. Good. Um. Today uh we will uh talk about uh conceptual design. I hope uh you both did some uh some
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: work uh concerning a uh conceptual design. Um this will be the uh agenda for the meeting uh. Uh I will take some minutes uh again.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: Um we will have the presentations of y of you different
Imelda Stocker: Yep.
Alberta Pedro: team members,
Jane Vonholt: Yep.
Alberta Pedro: and then to come decisions concepts uh have. So and
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: that uh will uh we have some uh forty minutes uh to complete this
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: uh. So um who has the fir do you ha Anna
Imelda Stocker: I have
Alberta Pedro: do you
Imelda Stocker: a
Alberta Pedro: have
Imelda Stocker: presentation,
Alberta Pedro: your presentation
Imelda Stocker: I'm just
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: ready?
Imelda Stocker: making
Jane Vonholt: I
Imelda Stocker: this
Jane Vonholt: think yeah
Alberta Pedro: Okay.
Jane Vonholt: the Matthew it is it's important that Matthew yeah is here because
Alberta Pedro: Ah there is Matthew.
Jane Vonholt: it's really a a team uh project with a team and if someone is not
Delila Byers: Sorry.
Jane Vonholt: here then we cannot but it's okay it's good.
Imelda Stocker: Okay I'll just email you this file, my presentation.
Alberta Pedro: So. Good. Do presentation ready?
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm I'm just emailing it to you.
Alberta Pedro: Oh okay.
Delila Byers: So
Alberta Pedro: So did you manage uh
Delila Byers: Yeah I sent you the slides you didn't see them?
Alberta Pedro: Oh yes I see him,
Delila Byers: Okay.
Alberta Pedro: good yes. No.
Delila Byers: So 'Kay.
Imelda Stocker: Okay it should've gone through to you.
Alberta Pedro: Okay mm yes I have it.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm. Okay so this just a presentation on uh the trends that we're gonna use to make the product stand out from the rest of the products out there at the moment. Um can I just put this on? So we have to work out a way what we can do with our product to make it stand out and make it so people wanna buy it. Um. This is to do this I will not remove my microphone. We basically used um some focus group surveys which I went through with you last time, the main results of that, and um some research on the current design um and fashion trends that are out there at the moment um, and as part of this The important aspects that came out were things that we've already discussed really. The most important by far was the look and feel of it. It needs to be something that's very different from everything else out there. It needs to stand out. It needs to be not functional like the rest of the things out there at the moment. Most people find remote controls boring at the moment, we need to have something that looks interesting, that looks exciting, that will stand out. People will wanna buy it. Um That was twice as i important as the next item on here which is that it has to be technologically innovative has to have something else, apart from just the look of it. People have to then think about it and say got something there that I want. That's a really cool feature, and it has to make them wanna buy it again. Third on the list, and again innovative was twice as important as this last um aspect, it has to be easy to use. So they have to be able to be able to look at it and have some intuitive idea of how to use it um. Drawing on the fashion trends at the moment, uh fruit and vegetables um. This is basically talking about just the the feel of it, so probably not the smell of it, but the bright colours, um
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Imelda Stocker: eye-catching, really bold designs,
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Imelda Stocker: and a spongy feel. Um I had a talk to the design people about this, but having a remote that's tactile, that feels different, that would be really cool. That would make it stand out.
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Imelda Stocker: Um.
Jane Vonholt: So can you repeat and be more precise about what you just said?
Alberta Pedro: Spongy
Jane Vonholt: Uh
Alberta Pedro: feel?
Jane Vonholt: about the feeling yeah uh
Imelda Stocker: Well
Jane Vonholt: yo
Imelda Stocker: ma
Delila Byers: You
Imelda Stocker: make
Delila Byers: can
Imelda Stocker: it not necessar sp spongy is the current thing. Spongy is the current texture, but basically there are no reports no remotes at the moment which are spongy or tactile at all, so if we make it like maybe furry or
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Imelda Stocker: soft or something, that'll be something that sets it apart,
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Imelda Stocker: rather than just bare plastic which they all are at the moment.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: Okay.
Imelda Stocker: So as far as the design goes, the very most important aspect was the design, to the customers. So going with the fruit and vegetable idea, we've got the bright colours, so makes it stand out, the oranges and the the bright yellows and the florescent colours, part of the fruit and vegetables um. Going back to the idea of taking inspiration from mobile phones, they've all got those a lot of them have the changeable covers, so they can choose what colour the outside is. That's one way of looking at it um. Textured feel we just talked about. Maybe it's
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Imelda Stocker: another way of doing that. So if it's part of the the changeable covers then may maybe they can choose a different texture, a spongy one or a soft one or something like that. So they can choose it li as they want to
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: to maybe
Jane Vonholt: that's a very good yeah.
Imelda Stocker: to fit in with their decor in their living room, or just what they like,
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: their sports team or whatever. Um and yeah, still taking the inspiration from the mobile phone design so functionality, the way the mobile phones work, the way the keypad looks. Also just the way that a lot of industrial design is going into mobile phones at the moment. They're big selling items. People put a lot of thought into that so we can leverage off that, and we can start using some of their ideas. Um back to technological in in innovation, not quite as important, but still a big issue. Um we talked about having a way of finding a remote control if it's been lost, uh that's one thing we could look at. There are other aspects like L_C_D_ screens and speech recognition which weren't I don't think, in my personal opinion, gonna be worth the extra expense and the extra effort that will go into them.
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Imelda Stocker: I think we're better doing something basic like this which is very important and very will be a really cool feature to put in. And use. I had no real specific ideas for this, having your core functions big and at the top
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Imelda Stocker: maybe, by themselves,
Alberta Pedro: Yes well maybe
Imelda Stocker: and
Alberta Pedro: Matthew
Imelda Stocker: then
Alberta Pedro: can can
Imelda Stocker: yeah
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: give
Imelda Stocker: and
Alberta Pedro: some
Imelda Stocker: then
Alberta Pedro: more
Imelda Stocker: th
Alberta Pedro: information
Imelda Stocker: th the
Alberta Pedro: on
Imelda Stocker: finer
Alberta Pedro: the
Imelda Stocker: details of buttons you don't use as much either hidden away or completely separate.
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Delila Byers: Voila.
Imelda Stocker: Yep and that's the presentation.
Alberta Pedro: Okay good, that's very clear.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: very clear.
Alberta Pedro: 'Kay. Um.
Imelda Stocker: So does anyone have any comments
Alberta Pedro: Uh
Imelda Stocker: or ideas on that? I think you
Alberta Pedro: Maybe we yes well we maybe can decide later on um the l the the look and feel of uh I've it was a good idea maybe to to
Jane Vonholt: To let the people choose,
Alberta Pedro: Yes
Jane Vonholt: you mean?
Alberta Pedro: the the
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: the there are changeable covers, but on the other hand I I don't know whether my superiors would be so glad with it because you have to introduce a complete uh uh new l line of uh of supplies uh
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: it would be uh very complicated uh organisational
Imelda Stocker: Well we're selling so many units of this. This is gonna be a mass marketed product,
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Imelda Stocker: we can afford to have two
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Imelda Stocker: or three different designs
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: at least.
Jane Vonholt: a range of uh yeah,
Alberta Pedro: Yes.
Jane Vonholt: a set
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Jane Vonholt: of three, four different
Imelda Stocker: mm.
Jane Vonholt: aspects.
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: Sure
Alberta Pedro: Yes
Jane Vonholt: that fits the
Alberta Pedro: and of course it will be a we we get a if it works we can get uh after-sales
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: I mean that would would be very good I mean
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: those covers could go for for three, five Euro.
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: That's a very good idea um And then uh maybe uh we can go a th Matthew's presentation because
Delila Byers: Yeah s
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: the
Delila Byers: then we could discuss later like we can put all ideas together.
Alberta Pedro: Together indeed
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: uh,
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: because
Delila Byers: It should
Alberta Pedro: you
Jane Vonholt: yeah
Delila Byers: be
Alberta Pedro: ma
Delila Byers: easier
Alberta Pedro: might
Jane Vonholt: I
Alberta Pedro: have
Delila Byers: with
Jane Vonholt: agree.
Alberta Pedro: some
Delila Byers: that.
Alberta Pedro: some information on the the easy to use, what
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm,
Alberta Pedro: you were
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: yeah.
Alberta Pedro: already mentioning.
Jane Vonholt: And
Delila Byers: So
Jane Vonholt: your part is very related to mine because
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: when you suggest something then it
Delila Byers: Yeah
Jane Vonholt: has to
Delila Byers: so
Jane Vonholt: be integrated inside.
Delila Byers: I'll I'll go with that actually
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: so um
Delila Byers: Okay so m so then the the idea of uh having remote is generally you have uh keys and uh different, different forms, and uh they could be like buttons or like and um they could be of uh a varying sizes if you want to to uh basically emphasize a particular key more than the other, and uh maybe like you can have different colours for example having the r red for the on off switching on and off the button. So this this is the general trend to
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: ha
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: the method they do. So what I have found was that uh currently uh the they are mostly that the T_V_, V_C_R_, music system operated ones actually, and they are very specific to each other, but there are some common keys for example if you want to follow the V_C_R_ and if you want to follow the uh g uh s some uh soundtrack on the w w see they have the common thing actually
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: you can have and uh There is also um a speech recognition to store channel information, names, like You can basically if you have a multiple functionality, say T_V_, V_C_R_ or something I say it
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: to the T_V_ and the T_V_, and you can programme the keys if you want to, certain keys are even the channel information.
Imelda Stocker: Mm. I like the idea though of having speech recognition for like the n the name of a channel like B_B_C_, rather than having to remember the the number of it on the keypad.
Delila Byers: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: That's a good idea.
Delila Byers: yeah so you you you can just uh because uh as more and more channels come then you have more and more problems to remember the v v
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: exact channel numbers ex
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: exactly, even if you arrange it by however you arrange it,
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: you still have the problem to
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: remember exactly
Imelda Stocker: Yeah I really
Delila Byers: which
Imelda Stocker: like that idea.
Delila Byers: channel
Jane Vonholt: So
Delila Byers: you
Jane Vonholt: what
Delila Byers: want
Jane Vonholt: functionalities
Delila Byers: to
Jane Vonholt: do you suggest for that? For
Delila Byers: So
Jane Vonholt: facing
Delila Byers: it
Jane Vonholt: this
Delila Byers: it
Jane Vonholt: problem?
Delila Byers: it's like it limited one. In the present market I saw it that says something like they are looking for eighty word thing, eighty word,
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: which shouldn't be th that difficult to implement, like eighty to hundred word. Basically you want you don't want to store all the channels in the
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: remote control, you want to st store your favourite channel.
Imelda Stocker: Maybe ten channels,
Delila Byers: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: yeah
Delila Byers: some
Imelda Stocker: at the most.
Delila Byers: ten twelve channel information. You
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Delila Byers: know you don't want to st store all the hundred
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: channel information into that. And uh basically uh it depends like the remote with L_C_D_ display for browsing because you have multiple functionalities for example you are watching a movie, and uh uh you are having a universal remote control and you want to uh you don't know really which functionality is now, so I am using the T_V_ so every time I use it, it could be like, for example I can use a simple toggle switch, and a display, so I press it so the display says, okay, I'm in T_V_ or D_V_D_ or whatever
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: it is, instead of having three keys separately
Jane Vonholt: Oh yeah yeah yeah
Delila Byers: for four
Jane Vonholt: mm.
Delila Byers: keys, to model the functionalities
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: will increase actually,
Jane Vonholt: Mm.
Delila Byers: and for you and you might want
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: you don't want separate keys for all of them. You can't. And uh well there can be children friendly where you can programme your remote so that they they are not allowed uh to browse certain channels which you can block them, and you can operate them.
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: So these are the things presently which are seen in the market scenarios at present. I personally would look at things like having a u universal remote, is uh um is a good idea, like instead of having unusual ones for all of them you can
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: think of having, um with multiple functionality possibly with speech recognition. I got a mail from the the coffee machine interface unit that uh they have uh integrated the s speech recognition into a into the coffee machine, and so
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Delila Byers: if you
Imelda Stocker: b
Delila Byers: say hello coffee machine, it say hi Joe, or something like that, you know, and
Imelda Stocker: But a coffee
Delila Byers: uh
Imelda Stocker: machine, there's not too many words they'd be using with that it's a
Delila Byers: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: it's
Delila Byers: you you
Imelda Stocker: a
Delila Byers: won't
Imelda Stocker: small
Delila Byers: be
Imelda Stocker: vocabulary.
Delila Byers: using it, so it's a limited vocabulary
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: mm thing, and very isolated word and
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: it's uh it is interesting, and basically storing the channel through voice or other ways of programming your keys,
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: on the display for the browsing which is again and maybe having something like a blinking thing, like uh it could indicate you're uh it it could indicate what is cal like the uh whether uh
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: you you have enough battery in your in your uh remote,
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: the blinking. At the same time, if it's a dark room, it can be used to locate the remote also or
Jane Vonholt: And you want okay for coming back to one
Imelda Stocker: Two thirty
Jane Vonholt: point
Imelda Stocker: five supposed
Jane Vonholt: y
Imelda Stocker: to
Jane Vonholt: you
Imelda Stocker: finish.
Jane Vonholt: want to let the user to programming the keys? Some of them?
Delila Byers: Yeah you can let them to do
Jane Vonholt: And
Delila Byers: that.
Jane Vonholt: uh isn't that too difficult for the we want w I don't know if we still want the um R_C_ to be easy to use,
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: that's the
Delila Byers: N no but the
Jane Vonholt: compromise.
Delila Byers: if you give it d depends on the easiness like
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: the user how much effort he can put.
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: Like for example uh I would like to store in certain way, so if you want to give the full freedom to the user
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: or
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: you want to keep some constraints
Imelda Stocker: Yeah.
Delila Byers: and let the user use
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: it with that constraint.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: I think
Delila Byers: So
Imelda Stocker: you can
Delila Byers: it
Imelda Stocker: do
Delila Byers: de
Imelda Stocker: it both ways. You can have it so it's easy they can pick it up and use it straight away without
Jane Vonholt: A standard.
Imelda Stocker: doing anythi without customizing it,
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: or if they want to they have the option of using these extra features.
Alberta Pedro: Um yes
Delila Byers: So
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: but but I do maybe you can give a hand to us because I I'm not sure whether that that we can implement that for twelve Euro and fifty cents. I'm sorry
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: to have
Delila Byers: So
Alberta Pedro: Every time I have to come down on this price
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: again to so this might be a little limiting for your creativity, but
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: it's it's it's the real We have to consider it. S so
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: do we think these ideas an and my uh sp speech recognition, I mean maybe it's possible for for twelve Euro but then then it will be at cost of other functionality we might implement
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: like the uh uh the the the furry uh uh case of
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: the
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm yeah like I would say that for programming uh keys, you
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: said, uh it could be uh easily uh done within the the package of twel twelve Euros,
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: but for the A_S_R_ system, uh I'm not sure if it's feasible to have
Delila Byers: We
Jane Vonholt: this or
Delila Byers: well we can still look
Jane Vonholt: We
Delila Byers: at we can talk with the coffee unit and you can uh check
Jane Vonholt: Exactly
Delila Byers: how much
Jane Vonholt: yeah
Delila Byers: how
Jane Vonholt: i
Delila Byers: much
Jane Vonholt: if if
Delila Byers: they
Jane Vonholt: it's a low vocabulary
Delila Byers: yeah
Jane Vonholt: it's already
Delila Byers: yeah
Jane Vonholt: implemented,
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: yeah.
Jane Vonholt: and w how much it's cost, maybe with
Delila Byers: Maybe
Jane Vonholt: a f
Delila Byers: we can come
Jane Vonholt: cheap chip.
Alberta Pedro: Mm
Delila Byers: we we can
Alberta Pedro: mm.
Delila Byers: talk to them, and we can come with that, you know.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: And also well you can think of having uh since you have a you know something maybe if you added little bit of display, you might need the to che keep checking the battery, so you really need a some kind of indicator, so it
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: could be a blinking option of L_E_D_
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Delila Byers: it could actually
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: be used to detect also. If it's in a dark room you can basically
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: detect it also.
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Delila Byers: So
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Imelda Stocker: I like the idea too of being able to use the remote in the dark, so either having the buttons so you can feel the difference between them or if they
Delila Byers: No actually
Imelda Stocker: if they light up or
Delila Byers: i
Imelda Stocker: something.
Delila Byers: if i it is like you know it tells you um, it can be for two purposes,
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: like if you have an L_C_D_ display and all those things
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: it's not going to be the standard remote,
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: which is having uh which need just uh six six volt uh
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: th sorry three volts um of D_C_. It may need more actually, so y you you may need to check your battery usage it and then
Jane Vonholt: Mm.
Delila Byers: you need that, some functionality to indicate the battery
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: limit.
Jane Vonholt: It's true.
Delila Byers: And then if the battery limit is indicated, if it could be ind indicated through a blinking something
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: and it can change the colour depending on your uh how much is the battery, well that is good enough to even locate even if you want to.
Jane Vonholt: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: You know.
Alberta Pedro: 'Kay good.
Delila Byers: Yeah so
Jane Vonholt: I don't know how if if I have time to talk about the
Alberta Pedro: Mm yes um
Delila Byers: You you have
Alberta Pedro: I would
Delila Byers: time some more? Yep.
Alberta Pedro: Yes yes you can you can still. We have time.
Delila Byers: Sure you can you know.
Jane Vonholt: Okay. So what I'm gonna present here is very uh um yeah basic knowledge about the all the the components that are inside a a R_C_ a remote control,
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: and how is it manufactured h what is the process, just to explain you. So the method is ther there is a a set of components in a in a remote control like, and uh what cost the the components in themself do not cost a lot but the the way to assemble everything costs obviously, and I will uh show you my preferences uh uh at the end. So there are two uh different types of uh um
Alberta Pedro: Nice.
Jane Vonholt: Two different ways
Delila Byers: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: of using the the components for making a a remote control. Uh the basic way is to use a an integrated circuit and some uh transistors with an that aims at communicating uh uh the message and to to send the message to the um to the led that will uh transmit to the receiver. And uh yeah the other components and the circuit board buttons, infrared, led, etcetera, for the components um. So you finding, just to say that the chip can detect uh when a key is pressed, and then it translate to the key, to a sequence, something like morse code, as you know,
Delila Byers: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: uh with a different sequence for each key, and uh uh that's, with the components we will use, we will have different uh messages, different sequences, and the chips sends that signal signal to the transistor that amplify to make it stronger um. So electronic parts are assembled onto uh printed boards uh because it's easier to mass produce and assemble. And uh so I think for our design we want some b uh programmable uh you know V_ V_L_S_I_ or
Delila Byers: Yeah
Jane Vonholt: F_P_G_A_
Delila Byers: mm mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: uh high technology, and this is important, and also we'll use uh yeah like in any uh high-tech uh devices a chip of fi
Delila Byers: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: fibreglass to them and connect them. So my personal design we need to find a solution what um what is the material of the cover we want to use. If it's plastic or
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: you said that yeah you had some ideas uh like fruit, veg or I
Alberta Pedro: Well
Jane Vonholt: dunno.
Alberta Pedro: well m m maybe
Jane Vonholt: Yes.
Alberta Pedro: m maybe we can give the uh the uh the case a very uh uh normal a v very normal case but,
Jane Vonholt: Yes.
Alberta Pedro: with the changeable covers to fancy it up.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Pedro: So like a normal cheap plastic case
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: which can
Jane Vonholt: Yes.
Alberta Pedro: be covered up in, for instance, a wooden case. I
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Alberta Pedro: mean just
Jane Vonholt: Yeah like
Alberta Pedro: what
Imelda Stocker: just
Jane Vonholt: they
Imelda Stocker: have
Jane Vonholt: do
Imelda Stocker: a
Jane Vonholt: in
Imelda Stocker: yeah
Jane Vonholt: with cars I think. Yeah
Imelda Stocker: Just
Jane Vonholt: inside
Imelda Stocker: the veneer
Jane Vonholt: the car
Imelda Stocker: on it,
Jane Vonholt: yeah.
Imelda Stocker: yeah.
Jane Vonholt: So they also emailed Imelda Stocker that uh they have available a bunch of different buttons, a scroll wheels, integrated push buttons s such as a computer mouse.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: And uh very cheap L_C_D_s, so liquid crystal displays, so I'm wondering, I think we might be able to integrate L_C_D_ into our R_C_. And the final point okay is um we have yeah there are some uh compromise to to do.
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: So we have to know that the push button requires a simple chip, but the scroll wheel uh and that kind of higher high-tech stuff needs more money um which is a higher price range alright. And the display requires an advanced chip, which in turns is more expensive than the regular chip,
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: w we could be able to handle that. So to to sum up um we need yeah so I I just said that the components uh the list of components uh has to be uh yeah listed and um and um assembly is a an important process that has to be taken into account. And uh for the designing of the cove uh uh cover layout
Delila Byers: Sorry.
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: then it's better to to to maybe see that with uh the the U_R_ exp U_R_I_ Expert so that we can it's really a team-working uh.
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: So I I cannot design something without your agreement,
Delila Byers: Yeah
Jane Vonholt: right?
Alberta Pedro: No
Delila Byers: so of course
Alberta Pedro: of
Delila Byers: for
Alberta Pedro: course.
Delila Byers: example uh I wanted to know like if you want to have a a fo if you want to have the L_C_D_ display
Jane Vonholt: Yes.
Delila Byers: over there, or if you want to store a programmes with a keys What kind of things you'll need inside your thin inside W wh what
Jane Vonholt: Yeah it's kind of um
Delila Byers: W what
Jane Vonholt: simple pro progra programmable device,
Delila Byers: Okay.
Jane Vonholt: and we have to insert. I
Delila Byers: Okay.
Jane Vonholt: think we could insert one that could underlie several functions of
Delila Byers: Okay so in that case you can even look at the technology what the mobile phone is trying to use with the card.
Jane Vonholt: Exactly yeah,
Delila Byers: Yeah where
Jane Vonholt: for
Delila Byers: they do
Jane Vonholt: customizing
Delila Byers: all the wi
Jane Vonholt: and
Delila Byers: with
Jane Vonholt: yeah.
Delila Byers: with them actually.
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Delila Byers: How f cost effective it would be to put that car chip into it and do the
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: programmable
Alberta Pedro: So
Delila Byers: things.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: So
Jane Vonholt: good
Alberta Pedro: I
Jane Vonholt: idea.
Alberta Pedro: f I think we we should come to some decisions now
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: uh a about this. Um so I understand uh when we want a display we need a expensive chip, but when we want a scrolling wheel w we also need the expensive chip, so can we use same chip, so with one expensive chip we can uh implement several complicated uh or advanced features.
Jane Vonholt: Exactly yeah that's
Alberta Pedro: Yes.
Jane Vonholt: a very good idea, we could have uh one main chip uh that
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: could handle, uh it's called F_P_G_A_ chip,
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: that could handle both uh like scrolling wheels as well as uh L_C_D_ and yeah.
Alberta Pedro: So when the more expensive chip you mentioned there is is possible in the in the given budget, uh maybe we should go for for the more expensive chip, so all features uh which you mentioned can be implemented based on the same chip.
Jane Vonholt: Yes.
Delila Byers: D well
Alberta Pedro: Do you think that's feasible?
Delila Byers: Well I don't know if it'll fit into our cost of twelve point five Euro
Alberta Pedro: Uh
Delila Byers: you know.
Alberta Pedro: You th you think it's possible.
Delila Byers: Is it possible to fit in
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Delila Byers: to
Jane Vonholt: also
Delila Byers: that?
Jane Vonholt: thinking, I think both uh if we had a budget of twenty twenty
Delila Byers: Sorry.
Jane Vonholt: uh Euros, it will be okay,
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: but uh.
Imelda Stocker: Well maybe we need specific costings then. Actually do maybe two designs and then cost them out and see which one is gonna fit in our budget better.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: Mm
Jane Vonholt: that's an excellent idea.
Alberta Pedro: yes wh when you make a a design ca you can next meeting you can give an quite
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: an exact cost price.
Jane Vonholt: yeah.
Alberta Pedro: That w that
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: would be
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: a very
Jane Vonholt: because right
Alberta Pedro: good idea.
Jane Vonholt: now I don't have price in in head but
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: for next meeting I'm sure yeah be able
Alberta Pedro: Good
Jane Vonholt: to
Alberta Pedro: good.
Delila Byers: Yeah that's uh
Jane Vonholt: do that.
Delila Byers: that's something which I wanted to ask you also, like what will be the each individually the cost of it.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: For example if f if you want to put wood I wouldn't suggest for wood
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Delila Byers: uh 'cause it's I think it's m much easier to use a plastic or
Jane Vonholt: I
Delila Byers: a
Jane Vonholt: agree
Delila Byers: rubber
Jane Vonholt: on that.
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: rather
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Delila Byers: than wood. It will be much ch much expensive th though it's the most natural thing, but
Alberta Pedro: Yes but I can I think uh I think we can just use more cheap plastic for a kind of basic edition, and
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: then
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Alberta Pedro: people can fancy it up with with more expensive materials
Delila Byers: Yeah it's
Alberta Pedro: which
Delila Byers: uh
Alberta Pedro: which come with a with
Delila Byers: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: another price.
Delila Byers: we we can give a preference to them, but it is but with plastic or the rubber or whatever it is it's much better with that rather than going for
Alberta Pedro: Do do you agree?
Jane Vonholt: Yeah but i
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Jane Vonholt: it's
Imelda Stocker: yeah
Jane Vonholt: a detailed
Imelda Stocker: sure.
Jane Vonholt: uh yeah yeah uh plastic versus uh
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: wood, and we need maybe to centre our description on uh the the really the what buttons what uh functionality we want to offer to the user,
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: and maybe with uh graphs or I don't know uh User Interface Designer you could maybe uh help us on that.
Alberta Pedro: Ma I I think uh for next meeting we c you
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: two can present a real
Delila Byers: Yea
Alberta Pedro: design.
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: Okay.
Alberta Pedro: Uh so drawing it on the board.
Jane Vonholt: Perfect yeah.
Alberta Pedro: And then we now sh only have to t to decide the general function uh. So um Let let's say next meeting w you produce two designs,
Delila Byers: Yeah sure.
Alberta Pedro: one one
Delila Byers: Yeah we will
Alberta Pedro: one
Delila Byers: uh
Alberta Pedro: less advanced and one more advanced and
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: with the
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: cost price.
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: Uh
Delila Byers: Uh.
Alberta Pedro: furthermore we go for the for the uh basic plastic case
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: But that that that that can be done later.
Jane Vonholt: Yeah customized.
Alberta Pedro: We now can concentrate on the on the basic
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: remote control. Um.
Delila Byers: Okay. We can give them smooth keys, you know. Smooth keys with bigger s uh So that you know The the problem most of the time we've seen, the keys is that it's small,
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Delila Byers: and every time we have to be very but if i the if we if we go to a different ways of designing those keys, then you can merge them together
Imelda Stocker: So is there any
Delila Byers: to
Imelda Stocker: of these that you're looking at particularly or is this
Delila Byers: Oh
Imelda Stocker: just
Delila Byers: you
Imelda Stocker: ideas?
Delila Byers: can actually, for example, if you see, they are they are they are quite small over here,
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: and uh now you can, for example, as I was if
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: you make them big, it may change the look of the thing
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: also to the people. At the
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: same
Alberta Pedro: Mm-hmm.
Delila Byers: time, it is m more uh like it would be more interesting for people who are having this R_S_I_ and all
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Delila Byers: problem.
Alberta Pedro: Yes yes yes bi
Imelda Stocker: yeah.
Alberta Pedro: big keys is
Delila Byers: Uh big keys
Alberta Pedro: is
Delila Byers: may
Alberta Pedro: good
Delila Byers: better
Alberta Pedro: thing
Imelda Stocker: You see?
Alberta Pedro: I think.
Delila Byers: for them actually and uh
Jane Vonholt: I agree yeah, and
Imelda Stocker: Yeah.
Jane Vonholt: not too m too many keys of course yeah.
Alberta Pedro: No
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Alberta Pedro: no.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: well one I've had before, a r r remote control we have at home is one that's actually got a cover on the bottom so the bottom bit is just, covers half the keys most of the time,
Alberta Pedro: Mm
Imelda Stocker: and
Alberta Pedro: mm mm.
Imelda Stocker: then you can slide the cover back to get to the the more advanced keys.
Alberta Pedro: Mm
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: w but then you have still have uh when you don't use it you have such a a an extent of your remote control which you
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: don't use. So maybe it's possible uh, I don't know whether you can can indicate this, that you can
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: elsewhere open your remote
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: control and on the inside
Imelda Stocker: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: are uh buttons you
Imelda Stocker: Um
Alberta Pedro: don't
Imelda Stocker: yeah
Alberta Pedro: use that much.
Imelda Stocker: I've seen that before
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: too. Anoth another like b it flips up and then you've got
Alberta Pedro: Yes.
Imelda Stocker: another
Delila Byers: Yes.
Imelda Stocker: layer of buttons underneath.
Delila Byers: Yeah so it's something like this, the model here s
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: Mm.
Delila Byers: you can put the
Imelda Stocker: But
Delila Byers: keys
Jane Vonholt: That's what you
Imelda Stocker: I've
Jane Vonholt: mean?
Imelda Stocker: seen also with keys and buttons on the top
Alberta Pedro: Yes
Imelda Stocker: of here as well.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: I I
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: th that's what I mean so I mean something like like
Imelda Stocker: I
Alberta Pedro: a
Imelda Stocker: like
Alberta Pedro: book.
Imelda Stocker: this one. I like the shape of this one.
Delila Byers: Yeah.
Imelda Stocker: Can we have can we think
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Imelda Stocker: about maybe
Jane Vonholt: I like
Imelda Stocker: having
Jane Vonholt: also
Imelda Stocker: a
Jane Vonholt: this
Imelda Stocker: a
Jane Vonholt: one.
Imelda Stocker: non-recta non non-rectangular one, so with not just the straight little box that's a
Jane Vonholt: Yeah,
Imelda Stocker: maybe curved
Delila Byers: Yeah,
Jane Vonholt: the point
Imelda Stocker: or
Delila Byers: mm.
Jane Vonholt: is
Imelda Stocker: something.
Jane Vonholt: w maybe we need to also to make a decision on how how how big we want to be and how many buttons
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Jane Vonholt: like
Imelda Stocker: mm
Jane Vonholt: n we
Imelda Stocker: 'kay.
Jane Vonholt: should dec
Delila Byers: We
Imelda Stocker: Is this
Delila Byers: should
Imelda Stocker: for the
Delila Byers: make
Imelda Stocker: next
Jane Vonholt: decide
Delila Byers: a
Imelda Stocker: meeting though? I think we might be out of time
Jane Vonholt: numbers
Alberta Pedro: Mm.
Jane Vonholt: or
Imelda Stocker: out of time for this meeting.
Delila Byers: Yeah that yeah next meeting we should be
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Alberta Pedro: Ju just make two designs,
Delila Byers: Yeah that
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Delila Byers: would
Jane Vonholt: yeah
Delila Byers: depend
Jane Vonholt: yeah.
Delila Byers: upon us actually.
Alberta Pedro: and the we we can decide decide between th those designs.
Imelda Stocker: Yep.
Delila Byers: Yeah
Alberta Pedro: I
Delila Byers: okay.
Alberta Pedro: think that would be
Jane Vonholt: Perfect.
Alberta Pedro: a good idea. So anyone uh any questions
Delila Byers: No
Alberta Pedro: for now?
Delila Byers: no.
Imelda Stocker: No.
Delila Byers: I don't have.
Imelda Stocker: So is this is there anything else I need to do from a marketing point of view for the next meeting?
Alberta Pedro: Um yes I come to that uh uh
Delila Byers: Maybe it would be interesting if you could look um for the cost inventories of other devices, if you're using speech recognition or something like that.
Alberta Pedro: Yes well m maybe uh, I don't know whether that's possible, maybe you
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: can start evaluating uh their work somehow.
Imelda Stocker: Okay well is this Imelda Stocker designing a way to evaluate it so Thinking about how to set up test groups and things?
Alberta Pedro: I don't know whether that's possible uh
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: in the given time but a as far as possible.
Imelda Stocker: Okay.
Alberta Pedro: So
Imelda Stocker: Yep.
Alberta Pedro: uh you two will be together
Jane Vonholt: Exactly.
Alberta Pedro: w working on
Delila Byers: Mm.
Alberta Pedro: a o on two prototypes
Jane Vonholt: Yeah.
Alberta Pedro: and further instructions will be uh will be sent to you by uh by
Jane Vonholt: Two
Alberta Pedro: email.
Jane Vonholt: or three
Delila Byers: Two.
Jane Vonholt: prototypes?
Alberta Pedro: Two.
Jane Vonholt: Two?
Delila Byers: One for like cost
Alberta Pedro: I
Delila Byers: and the one with like higher-end
Jane Vonholt: Okay.
Alberta Pedro: Mm
Imelda Stocker: Mm.
Delila Byers: so that
Alberta Pedro: and then
Delila Byers: then we can be easily comparing them
Jane Vonholt: Yeah
Delila Byers: or
Alberta Pedro: Hmm.
Jane Vonholt: and find
Delila Byers: you
Jane Vonholt: maybe
Delila Byers: know
Jane Vonholt: a compromise.
Delila Byers: find a compromise
Imelda Stocker: Hmm.
Delila Byers: between both of them,
Alberta Pedro: Yes
Delila Byers: yeah
Alberta Pedro: okay.
Delila Byers: that's how it is.
Jane Vonholt: Perfect
Imelda Stocker: Mm-hmm.
Jane Vonholt: yeah.
Delila Byers: Yep.
Alberta Pedro: Okay let's call this to an end.
Imelda Stocker: Mm
Delila Byers: Okay.
Imelda Stocker: 'kay. Thanks guys.
Jane Vonholt: Thanks.
Delila Byers: So we are done for now. | Then Alberta Pedro opens the meeting announcing that they will address conceptual design and then giving the agenda. Matthew arrives late and Imelda Stocker begins her presentation about trends. She emphasizes that the remote needs to be exciting, contain a cool feature, and be somewhat intuitive. She reports that currently fruits and vegetables are fashionable- thus bright eye-catching colors, bold designs, and a spongy feel is appropriate. She lists ideas such as changable covers, a locator, speech recognition, and LCD screens. The industrial specialist presents, talking about how a remote typically has different keys, structures and forms. He likes the idea of implenting speech recognition into a universal remote. They discuss without certainity about the cost of such functions. Jane Vonholt presents about remote control components and the manufacturing process, listing options such as various buttons, scroll wheels, integrated push buttons like those in a computer mouse, and LCDs. They discuss the project budget and the possibility of using an expensive chip. They decide to make two designs, one more advanced than the other. Alberta Pedro closes the meeting by telling each group member what his/her tasks will be until the next meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: So we are here for concept design meeting. So, we will first start by summarizing the mm the previous meeting and the decision we've taken. Uh I will take notes during this meeting so uh that you can uh look at my uh folder to see the summary of this meeting afterwards. So each of you will uh show us the various investigation they've done during uh previous uh hours. We'll then t take decision in concert then uh uh we will uh define the nest next, to have to be done before the next meeting. So, last time we decided to have a simple interface. We also decided to have a wheel to change channel previous channel button. Channel digit uh buttons should be uh protected by plastic cover or something for the remote control to look very simple. We have also button for volume, and to switch on off the T_V_. We have also uh the lightening feature for the remote control to be easy to find, and for fast development and low cost we have decided to have no L_C_D_ no voice features. So now uh we will have three presentations. So the conceptual specification by Industrial Designer, the specification of the U_I_ by or
Abigail Gaitor: Abdul
Yolonda Costantino: U_I_
Abigail Gaitor: al-Hasred is my name.
Yolonda Costantino: okay. And uh the last point is uh trend watching by Market Expert. So maybe we can start with uh industrial design. So this is the presentation.
Ann Love: Uh, I_D_ you want?
Yolonda Costantino: Maybe I can switch slide
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: uh on your request.
Ann Love: I v have three slides, so. I just look at the mm um just this. On some web pages
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Ann Love: to find some documentation and I think a remote control is, as I s mentioned previously, you just have a a very simple chip and the mm the user interface is just done usually by push button and in our case we are using a um a wheel control.
Ann Love: standard, and uh I just looked for the wheel sensor and the standard push button. And um yeah we can change directly.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Ann Love: In fact I have the number of that element which is very standard for remote control. The push button are usually extremely cheap, but I just have one problem and this is related with the wheel sensor, which seems to be quite expensive.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Ann Love: And I think we if we could just talk about that if we really need a wheel sensor or if we can not if if we could combine something with the push button.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Ann Love: Uh
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: a wheel sensor is fifty time the price of a a a push button.
Yolonda Costantino: But
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Yolonda Costantino: is it a significant price on the whole remote control? Because
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: we can afford up to twelve Euros for the price of the remote control.
Ann Love: Yeah I I
Yolonda Costantino: So
Ann Love: th
Yolonda Costantino: will will will this with uh including all possible things, so buttons, wheel and the chip, be uh lower than twelve Euros to produce?
Ann Love: But I don't think that uh we should We should talk about uh the
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: design of the box also which
Yolonda Costantino: Okay
Ann Love: needs some
Abigail Gaitor: Also
Ann Love: money.
Abigail Gaitor: have to
Ann Love: But
Abigail Gaitor: say Did you receive the email about the voice recognition?
Ann Love: Um that's all
Abigail Gaitor: No?
Ann Love: yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: You received
Ann Love: I haven't
Yolonda Costantino: something
Ann Love: chec
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah. You we uh an email from the manufacturing division that they have basically a voice recognition chip already developed.
Yolonda Costantino: Hmm.
Abigail Gaitor: Says Yeah. It says that ri right now they just use it to uh to record uh answers to particular questions. But I guess
Yolonda Costantino: And
Abigail Gaitor: it could
Yolonda Costantino: could
Abigail Gaitor: be
Yolonda Costantino: it be adapted?
Abigail Gaitor: I guess it's possible. I mean instead of recording the answers you can just uh record uh something simpler like
Yolonda Costantino: Okay
Abigail Gaitor: a
Yolonda Costantino: and
Abigail Gaitor: command.
Yolonda Costantino: there can uh recognize some commands
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah
Yolonda Costantino: and stuff?
Abigail Gaitor: you reco recognize commands and you can record new commands and stuff, so if they already
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: have it as uh as a chip
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: then we we could use it.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay maybe we can just uh listen to this presentation and then take decision later
Abigail Gaitor: Okay.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: on according
Ann Love: Yeah
Yolonda Costantino: to those news.
Ann Love: but I think it's yeah Sorry, I haven't written my personal references. Um the I I just want to mention the the problem of the the r wheels sensor which is much more expensive than any push button,
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Ann Love: and if we could reduce that. We
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Ann Love: we have already some good things uh with um um with the backlight of the push button.
Abigail Gaitor: I have a question about that actually. Um, what is the purpose of the light?
Ann Love: Just to to make something which is uh slightly more design that uh a
Abigail Gaitor: Is
Ann Love: squarey box
Yolonda Costantino: You can
Ann Love: with
Yolonda Costantino: easily
Ann Love: a rubber
Yolonda Costantino: find the button
Abigail Gaitor: But
Yolonda Costantino: in the dark or so?
Abigail Gaitor: But in th in the dark uh Yeah but is going to be always turned on, the light?
Yolonda Costantino: It will be turned on when the when the user move the remote control I think, no?
Abigail Gaitor: But if you move it then you have it, you don't need to find it.
Yolonda Costantino: Hmm.
Abigail Gaitor: You can see the buttons better, of course.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. Yeah. True.
Ann Love: Yeah. Actually.
Abigail Gaitor: But if you move it then you have to have some sensor to when you move it to detect your movement.
Ann Love: As soon as you thought to move the the remote control you have the light.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, but you need another sensor for that, right?
Ann Love: Yeah. Again.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah no it's too expensive.
Ann Love: I don't think that this is really expensive, but
Abigail Gaitor: Okay.
Ann Love: at the end this is plenty of
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Ann Love: unexpen eh
Abigail Gaitor: Extra.
Ann Love: very cheap
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, okay.
Ann Love: devices but uh
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Ann Love: the bill starts to be
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, but I expected also the wheel would be cheap but you tell Diane Allen that it is very expensive so, yeah.
Ann Love: First of all I was thinking to have a a continuous light and you w when t you you you you press the on button you have
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Ann Love: the light on your remote control, when
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Ann Love: you want to turn off your device
Yolonda Costantino: But it can be uh battery consuming, no? To
Ann Love: Yeah,
Yolonda Costantino: have
Ann Love: a
Yolonda Costantino: the light
Ann Love: little
Yolonda Costantino: always on?
Ann Love: bit. A little
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Ann Love: bit.
Yolonda Costantino: Well we will discuss that after maybe
Ann Love: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: Okay.
Yolonda Costantino: the
Abigail Gaitor: So
Yolonda Costantino: other presentations.
Abigail Gaitor: uh my one, it uh should be in the shared folder.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: So. It was last time I saw it.
Yolonda Costantino: And it is.
Abigail Gaitor: Okay. So,
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: just move to the next slide. So basically want very simple, right? That's the major idea, as simple
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: as possible.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: So I just look at some current designs uh on the web, of usually more complicated remote controls. And let's look at two of them because uh th even though they have many buttons they look quite simple. And in our case we just uh reject the buttons what we don't need
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: and it become even simpler. Um. So.
Yolonda Costantino: And also does it uh fit well in hand? Because it was uh th
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: your wrist problem
Abigail Gaitor: Well this
Yolonda Costantino: with the usage.
Abigail Gaitor: these uh these remotes are quite big, so go to the next page, so. We have all these buttons as you can see, but most
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: of them, we just need the ones in the middle.
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: So, from the bottom or whatever is there,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: uh the uh the numbers and then the top, uh until the ten also, this middle part,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: and on the left one is exactly the same. So it's basically more or less how we would like it, with a big volume control, big channel control, and mute and power, yeah?
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: These are the basic thing.
Yolonda Costantino: So it's only the central part.
Abigail Gaitor: So basically, w software we will build will look more or less the same as these two.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. With a maybe a more ergonomic design on on the
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, if you
Yolonda Costantino: bottom
Abigail Gaitor: have, for
Yolonda Costantino: part.
Abigail Gaitor: example I think that the volume and the buttons that are there on the top are not very easy to reach with your thumb. It
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: could be on the right side, for example.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah. Because we don't have these input buttons and this other stuff that they have. And I think that the plastic cover is not very good uh
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: idea because you open it, it can break, you ca you can do various things. Uh
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: you just need
Yolonda Costantino: S
Abigail Gaitor: to put the channel numbers somewhere a bit out of the way.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: So
Yolonda Costantino: Will
Abigail Gaitor: that they're separate
Yolonda Costantino: be down
Abigail Gaitor: a bit,
Yolonda Costantino: or
Abigail Gaitor: yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: Uh and it's easy to press the other the big buttons, but uh, it's not that difficult to press the the channel buttons either. Mm. Yeah, I think that if you put the cover it will be even more difficult for the user.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: Alright, you won't yeah. Usually what I have noticed that people put the plastic cover on things that you normally don't mess with, like buttons for t uh tuning the channels and
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: stuff like that. Yeah. That you want to protect a bit. And I think it's uh it's reasonable.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Abigail Gaitor: So, I don't think Yeah, this is just the the wheel. We could
Yolonda Costantino: Mm.
Abigail Gaitor: use the some wheels can be pushed down, could use the push down of the wheel for the record if we want.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Abigail Gaitor: Uh so we could just basically use one just wheel and uh user could use just the wheel to do everything with
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: the channels in that case.
Yolonda Costantino: Maybe the wheel will be a good advantage over our competitors.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: Because otherwise it's pretty standard apart the fact that it's very simple. So maybe it's worse to uh
Ann Love: To
Yolonda Costantino: to
Ann Love: s
Yolonda Costantino: have more expense on that's that aspect.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, I guess the market researcher will tell us all about that.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay. So we can move to the Is there any question? For designer of user interface? or we can move to the next part, maybe, and discuss afterwards?
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Diane Allen: Okay, I can go? Can
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: I? So now the recent investigation we we have done fo of the remote control um. So, the most important aspect for remote controls is to be fancy look and feel and not current functional look and feel. And um the second aspect is uh that the remote control should be uh technological innovative.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Diane Allen: And the third most important aspect is to to is that the co remote control should be easy to use. about before.
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: Yeah. And um so you you can go
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: after. And there is a fashion watchers in Paris and Milan that have detected the following trends, uh fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes, and furnitures. So, maybe if our remote control have to be a fruit form or vegetable form something
Yolonda Costantino: Okay.
Diane Allen: like that, or
Ann Love: I support an apple.
Diane Allen: And the mm the material is expected to be spongy. Uh I don't know which material can be spongy,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: and if you
Yolonda Costantino: This is good
Abigail Gaitor: Well,
Yolonda Costantino: also
Abigail Gaitor: wou wou
Yolonda Costantino: for
Abigail Gaitor: I think we can certainly just put the electronics in a spongy thing, it it
Ann Love: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: would work, right?
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: Mm-hmm.
Ann Love: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: I think it is good also f to have a spongy
Abigail Gaitor: You can throw it to
Yolonda Costantino: material,
Abigail Gaitor: the television.
Yolonda Costantino: yeah. Yeah, because
Diane Allen: Okay
Yolonda Costantino: it's
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: robust.
Ann Love: Diane Allen too.
Diane Allen: It's robust, yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: Hey that's a cool one. We could say that if you throw it, you have a sensor, and you throw it and hits the television and turns it off. When it d uh takes a shock.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah uh
Ann Love: Ah
Diane Allen: Not good.
Yolonda Costantino: sorry?
Ann Love: it's okay. I know that they do that for alarm clock
Diane Allen: An
Ann Love: also.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Diane Allen: and and uh this uh you can yeah you can say that. You ca uh you
Yolonda Costantino: No.
Diane Allen: can go
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: uh before,
Yolonda Costantino: Before?
Diane Allen: before, yes. And you know here the more iz important aspect is the fancy look and feel,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: after is uh technological innovative,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: and after the easy to
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Diane Allen: use.
Yolonda Costantino: I think it's innovative to use the mm the wheel because I
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: think
Diane Allen: Yeah
Yolonda Costantino: no one
Diane Allen: that's why
Yolonda Costantino: else has.
Diane Allen: Yeah
Yolonda Costantino: Has
Diane Allen: that's
Yolonda Costantino: it?
Diane Allen: why I think we have to keep that if it's possible.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. I think
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: it's it makes it both easy and both innos innovative.
Diane Allen: Innovative.
Yolonda Costantino: So
Diane Allen: Mm.
Yolonda Costantino: I think it's a good aspect and it should
Abigail Gaitor: How
Yolonda Costantino: be
Abigail Gaitor: do
Yolonda Costantino: kept.
Abigail Gaitor: we make it look cool is the question.
Yolonda Costantino: Cool, fancy?
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: We have to make it l look like a fruit or vegetable.
Diane Allen: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: Maybe
Ann Love: What about
Yolonda Costantino: uh
Ann Love: um
Yolonda Costantino: um
Diane Allen: Mm.
Yolonda Costantino: a colour that remember
Diane Allen: Oh,
Yolonda Costantino: some
Diane Allen: colour,
Yolonda Costantino: fruit
Diane Allen: yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: uh, things like that.
Abigail Gaitor: Well the obvious thing
Diane Allen: Oh i
Abigail Gaitor: is a banana, I guess.
Diane Allen: i
Yolonda Costantino: Maybe yeah.
Diane Allen: I thought about a a pear, for example. You know the pear, is like that and it's it's easy to
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah,
Diane Allen: to have in in
Yolonda Costantino: and
Diane Allen: hand
Yolonda Costantino: it's ergonomic
Diane Allen: and uh
Yolonda Costantino: as well.
Diane Allen: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: A pear.
Abigail Gaitor: The banana is also ergonomic.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. Maybe pear yeah or something like that.
Diane Allen: Or a fruit like that. I dunno.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. We can discuss that uh. D D Is is there anything you want to add?
Abigail Gaitor: Is there any fruit that is spongy?
Yolonda Costantino: I don't think so. I think we we can have like yeah a pear is good, fit well, or banana as you told.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: And
Yolonda Costantino: Something like
Ann Love: for
Yolonda Costantino: that.
Ann Love: maybe look and feel, what about a a piece of ice, with blue L_E_D_ inside?
Yolonda Costantino: But that's
Abigail Gaitor: You can
Yolonda Costantino: not
Abigail Gaitor: make
Yolonda Costantino: in
Abigail Gaitor: it
Yolonda Costantino: the trend.
Abigail Gaitor: um
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: The trend is spongy, and vegetable
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: fruits.
Abigail Gaitor: It's not hard, the metal.
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: I
Abigail Gaitor: Plastic.
Yolonda Costantino: think p spongy is good because it it will be robust as well.
Ann Love: Yep.
Yolonda Costantino: So, I think we can keep the wheel because it's
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: uh easy, it's innovative, even if the cost is a bit higher, and we also have to find a, so, a fruit like pear or banana wit uh any others idea you have. What kind of fr fruit would you like to to control your T_V_ with?
Abigail Gaitor: Mm.
Yolonda Costantino: Odi
Ann Love: Banana I think, it's a nice idea.
Yolonda Costantino: Banana is also
Ann Love: Because
Yolonda Costantino: yellow so you you
Ann Love: But
Yolonda Costantino: can't lost your remote control
Diane Allen: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: then.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: You y you don't use the banana when the
Abigail Gaitor: Two of
Ann Love: banana
Abigail Gaitor: the button,
Ann Love: is
Abigail Gaitor: yeah.
Ann Love: curving like that, but when the banana is curving like that,
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: with the wheel on the top
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: and to control, and here you have
Diane Allen: But you
Ann Love: a
Diane Allen: don't
Ann Love: a
Diane Allen: have
Ann Love: push button to
Yolonda Costantino: I think
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah so you
Yolonda Costantino: it's
Abigail Gaitor: can just
Yolonda Costantino: a
Abigail Gaitor: have
Yolonda Costantino: good
Abigail Gaitor: uh
Yolonda Costantino: idea, yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: just have this curve, yeah, and you move uh your hand here to press the buttons and then you move uh on the other side.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: So you can
Ann Love: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: have it on on two sides and it'll be cool, no?
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah. then. Maybe we can keep the banana. And it will be very easy to find.
Abigail Gaitor: You
Ann Love: And
Abigail Gaitor: can put also
Ann Love: everybody
Abigail Gaitor: vibrator
Ann Love: knows
Abigail Gaitor: inside.
Ann Love: what is a banana. Basically.
Diane Allen: Yeah.
Ann Love: If you if you start with uh fancy fruits and
Abigail Gaitor: Ah-ha.
Ann Love: fra s
Abigail Gaitor: You can
Ann Love: and
Abigail Gaitor: also
Ann Love: tha
Abigail Gaitor: take into account the fact that the banana fits with the colour scheme of our company.
Ann Love: Oh,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Ann Love: yeah
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah it's really uh really a good point.
Abigail Gaitor: I hope the students of management die, but anyway. Now who are recording this meeting?
Yolonda Costantino: I think it So One second. So we have to take some decision on this aspect. So, uh so for sorry, for uh component, so
Ann Love: So
Yolonda Costantino: we have to think about those aspects, sorry.
Ann Love: So we will just use a a standard battery?
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Ann Love: And uh the chip we chip imprint we know exactly which one we are going to use. Uh what do you mean by case?
Yolonda Costantino: I think it's the box that should be spongy, banana's
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: shape.
Ann Love: Uh I mean for Diane Allen if we use a a spongy banana case, doesn't matter. I just want to have so something
Abigail Gaitor: The only th
Ann Love: to prin to to fix my
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: my components onto that box,
Abigail Gaitor: Y
Ann Love: and
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah that
Ann Love: that's
Abigail Gaitor: can
Ann Love: it.
Abigail Gaitor: be in inside th in the
Ann Love: Yeah
Abigail Gaitor: structure.
Ann Love: yeah. Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: But uh the thing is that the buttons and the wheel have to be I mean
Ann Love: Spongy
Abigail Gaitor: if it's spongy
Ann Love: also.
Abigail Gaitor: then the buttons and the wheel have to I mean if it's spongy then it's going to move, right? So, it's going to be bend a lot. So if we try
Ann Love: Oh
Abigail Gaitor: to
Yolonda Costantino: But
Ann Love: no
Abigail Gaitor: push the
Ann Love: I think
Abigail Gaitor: buttons,
Ann Love: it's
Abigail Gaitor: it
Ann Love: possible.
Abigail Gaitor: You think it's
Yolonda Costantino: No
Abigail Gaitor: possible?
Yolonda Costantino: the button would be In fact it it should be something odd shaped, with
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: a spongy cover.
Abigail Gaitor: Okay.
Ann Love: Yeah. This is uh like
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Ann Love: the
Yolonda Costantino: Okay odd shape with spongy cover. And standard battery okay, a chip imprint, there's no specific problem. So we agree to put the wheel
Ann Love: Mm-hmm. Wheel on the top. Button, where do we want some buttons?
Abigail Gaitor: Well, usually hold 'Kay, we want it to be good also for the left-hand users, right?
Ann Love: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: Uh
Yolonda Costantino: So it have to it has to be symmetrical.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah but okay. Sa let's say that th o It has to be basically you can only take two sides, one on ths this side where is the thumb and the other side where there is uh
Ann Love: Yep.
Abigail Gaitor: yeah also the thumb.
Ann Love: Yep.
Abigail Gaitor: Basically. Or you could use use this one, but I don't know if it's very comfortable, to use
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah
Abigail Gaitor: this one
Yolonda Costantino: maybe
Abigail Gaitor: for the
Yolonda Costantino: the
Abigail Gaitor: wheel.
Yolonda Costantino: thumb is more comfortable.
Abigail Gaitor: This for the wheel and then this for the buttons?
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah
Abigail Gaitor: Should
Yolonda Costantino: I think
Abigail Gaitor: have
Yolonda Costantino: it's
Abigail Gaitor: the
Yolonda Costantino: okay
Abigail Gaitor: two sides.
Yolonda Costantino: for both right and left.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: Mm.
Abigail Gaitor: So if the left, we have the op
Yolonda Costantino: I think you can turn it this way also. You can
Abigail Gaitor: Wheel
Yolonda Costantino: do both with
Abigail Gaitor: Wheel buttons.
Yolonda Costantino: both hands.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah, the problem
Yolonda Costantino: I think
Abigail Gaitor: is if
Yolonda Costantino: it's
Abigail Gaitor: you have
Yolonda Costantino: okay.
Abigail Gaitor: buttons and wheel then when you turn it around, the buttons are on the other side. So you cannot see them.
Yolonda Costantino: Well, you
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: you will get used to it. And moreover,
Abigail Gaitor: So the buttons have to be here
Yolonda Costantino: th
Abigail Gaitor: and the wheel
Yolonda Costantino: the button
Abigail Gaitor: has
Yolonda Costantino: ar
Abigail Gaitor: to be
Yolonda Costantino: are lighted so you you immediately identify the right side, because
Abigail Gaitor: Y
Yolonda Costantino: you have light on buttons.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah I know, but uh if you hold with your left hand, and the wheel is here, and the buttons are here,
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah.
Abigail Gaitor: then when you turn it around the buttons will be on the other side.
Yolonda Costantino: No you you I think you will use it only on the right or left hand, whether you are righty or lefty. I think for lefty it's okay. I can do this movement, and for righty as well. I think this doesn't change that much.
Abigail Gaitor: Okay.
Yolonda Costantino: Yeah?
Abigail Gaitor: Okay. Maybe. Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: So, for interface we said also that we have uh this banana shape with button on the s on the side. And and uh a wheel on the top.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: So the colour is yellow. I think it's uh we defined everything according to what we should what the decision we should take, yeah. So maybe we can um we can uh work on those aspects uh until next meeting. So have the final uh look and feel design according to the decision. And have the the user interface design and uh then evaluate the prodyuc the product. That is to say, uh check if it fit the the requirement uh given by the users, but according to uh your presentation it seems to be okay. It seems to be fancy, innovative, and easy to use.
Ann Love: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: So so to prepare the prototype I would suggest that Ann Love and Abigail Gaitor uh work together. That would uh
Ann Love: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: be better, I think. And uh And so uh you will receive further instruction by emails, as usual.
Abigail Gaitor: Mm-hmm.
Yolonda Costantino: So
Abigail Gaitor: Yes master.
Yolonda Costantino: do you need to add anything?
Abigail Gaitor: No.
Yolonda Costantino: You feel okay?
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: You feel uh free to express what you want to say?
Abigail Gaitor: Yeah.
Yolonda Costantino: You don't feel too constrained?
Abigail Gaitor: No.
Yolonda Costantino: You don't feel free to answer this?
Abigail Gaitor: Maybe you can make uh uh mm okay.
Yolonda Costantino: Okay, so
Ann Love: Thank you.
Yolonda Costantino: See you. | Ann Love presented the functional components that will appear in the prototype, and discussed with the group the high cost of the wheel sensor and the possibility of incorporating speech recognition. Abigail Gaitor presented existing remote controls to help show the interface of the prototype. He showed how the new design will be more simple and ergonomic than the models he displayed by eliminating extra functions. Diane Allen presented news about trends in fashion and in the market that will be incorporated into the design. A fruit and vegetable theme and spongy materials are popular trends that will be used in the design. The group finalized which features they wanted to integrate into the design. They decided to make the remote shaped like a banana and spongy, to have the buttons lighted, to have a wheel sensor at the top of the device, and to use only a standard chip and battery that would not accomodate speech recognition. Yolonda Costantino instructed Abigail Gaitor and Ann Love to construct the prototype, and announced that the prototype would be evaluated in the next meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
April Sears: So we are here to talk about functional design Now. hopefully we've all got a better idea from than we did f leaving the last meeting as to what it is we are up to now. So here's an agenda. Uh I'll open. Um you should know that I'll be taking minutes during all the meetings, as I was struggling to our last time uh and that'll be easier for Minnie King now because I'm not actually giving the whole presentation. Uh the additional points just stuff that we sent that I forwarded on from upper management having a few bright ideas to make our lives painful. Um now you can all give your presentations. We can talk about the requirements and hopefully come to some decisions. Right, forty minutes for this meeting, so a bit more time than the last one. Here's the additional points I just wanted to put those in there to see if you guys had any comments on them. Uh did you all receive that email?
Cynthia Syers: Yep.
Minnie King: Yeah.
April Sears: So does anyone have any overall
Minnie King: Well uh what comes up for Minnie King that if we're gonna if we're gonna be marketing a product that
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: is going to be uh having no teletext, people
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: are very comfortable with the idea of having teletext and using teletext,
April Sears: Yep.
Minnie King: and so we're not we're gonna be a new product without something that people are very comfortable having right now. So that's, from a marketing perspective
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: I I see I see a lack. And so we have to go, I think, in the other What are we gonna have that makes this thing better
April Sears: Well tha
Minnie King: than
April Sears: that first point could uh also be an op opportunity because in seeing that teletext is becoming outdated, some sort remote control that can work with the Internet there is the opportunity
Minnie King: Right.
April Sears: that's presented, I
Minnie King: Yeah.
April Sears: guess.
Minnie King: No, I I agree with you. So what
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: I'm talking about is I see that one side we're eliminating something so we have to come up with another side which is, what are we gonna be targeting our market uh that identifies our product as better than because it doesn't have teletext it has ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. So
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: that's that's that was my reactions.
April Sears: Yeah. but but we are sort of being dictated that this should only be
Minnie King: Yeah yeah.
April Sears: for the television. So we're quite fixed.
Minnie King: Yep.
April Sears: So we're really probably, in terms of marketing, are looking for that's uh that's a cost winner rather than a fantastic new feature product.
Minnie King: Okay.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
April Sears: Yeah.
Kathy Waldon: bu but we we're remote, we not design the T_V_.
April Sears: Hmm.
Kathy Waldon: So uh we're gonna be removing the teletext out of any T_V_
Minnie King: Yeah.
Kathy Waldon: that we
Minnie King: 'Kay.
Kathy Waldon: people use our remote with.
Minnie King: That's right.
April Sears: Hmm.
Minnie King: I think
Kathy Waldon: So
Minnie King: we
Kathy Waldon: it's
Minnie King: take with you.
Kathy Waldon: kind of a stupid
April Sears: But
Kathy Waldon: decision.
April Sears: there's also
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: the potential for mark there's a market here for our lost teletext. For example someone that just goes to the shop that wants a replacement wants it as cheap as possible. Twenty-five Euros is the selling price, we really have to innovate here I guess.
Minnie King: That's what I'm that's what I'm talking about is is that we have to find something that is gonna be very attractive about this product 'cause somebody, some people are gonna be hap unhappy 'cause it took they can't ac access their teletext.
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: Okay. 'Cause we're talking about eighty percent or ninety percent or ninety-five percent of the televisions out there are are teletext.
April Sears: K yeah.
Minnie King: So so it's it's not that I'm criticizing the product at all. It's just when we eliminate that then what do we bring? What are we bringing in to take the place of this, and we have to
April Sears: Mm
Minnie King: d
April Sears: 'kay.
Minnie King: in my opinion we have to double up. If we lose one we need to bring two or
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: three.
April Sears: Okay I think that the last point is probably quite uh straightforward. Obviously the the w it has to be branded.
Kathy Waldon: So then the
April Sears: 'Kay.
Kathy Waldon: double R_ will be our our
April Sears: On the product yeah.
Cynthia Syers: I think
April Sears: Can
Cynthia Syers: one
Kathy Waldon: I tho
April Sears: you handle
Kathy Waldon: I
Cynthia Syers: of
Kathy Waldon: tho I thou
April Sears: that black and yellow?
Kathy Waldon: I think Rol Ro Rolls-Royce might mind, but don't worry.
Cynthia Syers: I w, yeah, one of the things that we should also keep in mind um when we're doing this I mean our company's slogan is we put the fashion in electronics, right. So I think our kind of our target here is to have some kind of very like sleek nice look remote and we want it to be functional as well, but I think one of the main selling points is that we don't want it to be clunky like. You
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: know we don't wanna a big clunker. We want something that looks nice and it's fashionable and so
Minnie King: So you have this?
April Sears: Nah. So we have three presentations, and I think we'll go in order of participant number here. So we can have a look at the working design first from participant two. That's
Kathy Waldon: Yes.
Cynthia Syers: That's fine.
April Sears: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: Okay so
April Sears: Mm it's enough. But uh click it on off?
Cynthia Syers: so you all know Minnie King, I'm Kathy Waldon. And we've some basic components that um our remote is gonna need, just basically every remote'll need 'em. We need some kinda of power d power source. Um we have to decide on our our user interface, which is his department, but the in user interface is also a major component. Um we need a programmable digital signal processor to um to take the input from the user and translate that into uh into electronic signal, which we pass to the infra-red L_E_D_, which you aim at the television uh which and it receives that signal. You need a on-off switch um I don't know how that got in there. And uh we also need to um have the if we want a universal remote we need to have encryption codes for the different makes of T_V_s. So we need to know all the different you know all the different signals and so that'll require some memory as well. Um so here's just a basic layout of how how the remote would work. You ha the v the power source is in the upper right-hand corner there, and you can see that uh we have the user interface here which is connected to the chip which does all our signal processing, and then passes that signal on to the infra-red L_E_D_ and that signal is then emitted and received by the television at the photo-transistor. So those are the basic components that need to go into this and everything else is pretty much uh open to move around.
Minnie King: Now is would this be considered just a standard uh um
Cynthia Syers: I think any
Minnie King: This
Cynthia Syers: des
Minnie King: is not this is not cutting edge technology we're talking here. We're talking
Cynthia Syers: No.
Minnie King: about existing technology.
Cynthia Syers: Right I think
Minnie King: Nothing is being modified or upgraded or
Cynthia Syers: Yeah this is
Minnie King: new discoveries.
Cynthia Syers: just this is just a basic layout of ev of all the components that w w are gonna be absolutely necessary f to have a working remote. We can add things in like if we wanted some voice recognition, I mean that I mean that you can kinda say would would fall under the user interface and the digital signal processing
Minnie King: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: chip.
Minnie King: Okay.
April Sears: Do
Cynthia Syers: But
April Sears: we have an idea of costs of different components?
Cynthia Syers: Um well the most the most costly components are gonna be the chip and the uh th it could als basically the user interface and the casing are gonna be expensive as well. Um
April Sears: 'Kay.
Cynthia Syers: the L_E_D_ and the the transistors and everything else are you know they're they're pretty cheap. So depending on what we want our functionality to be, um the chip could be expensive or it could be cheap. Um
April Sears: Mm 'kay.
Cynthia Syers: depending on the n amount of memory we need in there and stuff like that and h and h you know how
April Sears: Do we
Cynthia Syers: much
April Sears: have any
Cynthia Syers: power.
April Sears: ballpark figures for that yet? No.
Cynthia Syers: Uh I don't have any figures right now.
April Sears: 'Kay.
Cynthia Syers: We uh we have to wait until we get to a more specific design phase for that.
April Sears: Yeah.
Minnie King: N okay.
Cynthia Syers: Um but and I think a significant part of the cost could be the actual the actual casing itself and and you know the the b the buttons and things
Minnie King: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: like that,
Minnie King: Mm the
Cynthia Syers: I
Minnie King: shell?
Cynthia Syers: think. Yeah. Basically yeah.
Minnie King: Okay.
April Sears: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: So yeah. That's all I have really.
April Sears: Okay. Thanks. And we have participant three, which I believe is Pedro.
Kathy Waldon: I
April Sears: I can give you that to
Kathy Waldon: Hey
April Sears: click
Kathy Waldon: mouse.
April Sears: on.
Kathy Waldon: Open.
April Sears: And you wanna get View a slide show, that's what you wanna do, yeah? Just go up to view.
Kathy Waldon: Uh.
Cynthia Syers: Click, don't Yeah.
April Sears: Mm 'kay
Kathy Waldon: This doesn't work. So yeah function design. Um you guys know Minnie King, Pedro, and um what I found is we want to do fashion and I think, honestly, we should keep technology low and just simple basically and try to aim for design. If basically a case will will cost the same if it looks good or bad so we ma we have to make it look good. Um something cute and small. The big chunky remotes are died in the eighties. So we should just go for something that people will like to actually look at. And um although mo most people will buy s televisions and everything for uh that have loads of loads of little functions and everything and they mostly end up using simple functions and little things and most the people won't won't get too mad of actually having to go the to the s to the television to, for instance, tune in their the stations. There's no need to have that in the remote. So um um as for what I would recommend for uh the the interface design, and uh I will change the colours on the on the logo, but um we should go for the user-oriented device, so simple controls and good ergonomics. Um and uh although I th I th I'm still here recommending the teletext so I'll remove that, I guess, but um we should go for
April Sears: But
Kathy Waldon: the
April Sears: I t I think what the the management recommendation was less that there's a worry that teletext will become outdated rather than we shouldn't have it. So I I still think if it's cheap enough functionality-wise to include, it really should be in there.
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: Because otherwise we're just going to I mean even if it's necessary or not, if you if you're given the choice between a t a remote with teletext or without uh when it really if it i if it isn't more expensive for us to k make because as far as I understand it, it can be operated with the same set of buttons, yeah?
Cynthia Syers: Right
April Sears: So
Cynthia Syers: as
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: far
April Sears: it
Cynthia Syers: as
April Sears: should
Cynthia Syers: i
April Sears: be in there.
Cynthia Syers: it's just uh the cost of an extra button. I mean software-wise
April Sears: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: there's really no difference.
April Sears: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: I think.
April Sears: Isn't
Minnie King: I have maybe a silly question. I in the very beginning it said with the with the advent of computers there's gonna be the it's gonna be out-moded teletext. I I don't understand how those two things are connected. How does how does computers and teletext h how why is one eliminating the need of the other? I don't understand that.
April Sears: Well maybe what we're getting into here is the the idea of uh Internet through the T_V_ for example. So that might play on what
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
April Sears: we can
Kathy Waldon: the they're
April Sears: do.
Kathy Waldon: basically aiming at saying that you would use you know a couple of years ago teletext to be the easiest way to check like for uh
Cynthia Syers: Scheduling.
Kathy Waldon: uh the scheduling and the next programme and stuff like
Cynthia Syers: Um
Kathy Waldon: that
Cynthia Syers: to find
Kathy Waldon: and now
Cynthia Syers: out what what you're watching even if there's commercials you know.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
Minnie King: Okay.
Kathy Waldon: and now you can c look it over Internet. But I still think teletext is
Cynthia Syers: I
Kathy Waldon: way
Cynthia Syers: think
Kathy Waldon: more convenient
Cynthia Syers: I
Kathy Waldon: until
Cynthia Syers: ha
Kathy Waldon: until we have the same commodities.
Minnie King: Yeah 'cause, yeah,
Cynthia Syers: I
Minnie King: I
Cynthia Syers: agree.
Minnie King: just I don't see the cross-over between computers and television. I mean I do see the cross-over in some sense, but
Kathy Waldon: Yeah, but it's not happen yet.
Cynthia Syers: Well for
Minnie King: but
Cynthia Syers: Minnie King
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: but
April Sears: Well
Minnie King: but
April Sears: you have
Minnie King: with
April Sears: digital
Minnie King: the the
April Sears: T_V_
Minnie King: remote
April Sears: still
Minnie King: is is
April Sears: already.
Minnie King: used for television, okay. So
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: so if we make the cross-over and we're gonna view television on computers
Cynthia Syers: Unless you
Minnie King: then
Cynthia Syers: have
Minnie King: we're
Cynthia Syers: a
Minnie King: then we're losing the the necessity of the remote.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
April Sears: Well there
Minnie King: S
April Sears: there is a for example on digital T_V_ systems you have you can press a button and you can buy things in adverts, and you can uh
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: you can view through a catalogue for example. A a family member of mine has got a system where you just um you can Yeah, and there's other features for example on other systems where you can pause live T_V_ and things like that. They're just features from the Internet uh from computers are are coming into the T_V_ sort of under the covers,
Minnie King: Okay.
April Sears: but you still use it through a teletext. So
Minnie King: Okay.
April Sears: now the things to think here are that that there's gonna be more functionality,
Kathy Waldon: Yeah but
April Sears: potentially
Kathy Waldon: we we don't we're not
April Sears: that
Kathy Waldon: aiming
April Sears: we can handle.
Kathy Waldon: a command for that. That's the thing. And all of those require the other commands with more complexity and more software
Cynthia Syers: I
Kathy Waldon: and
Cynthia Syers: think a lot of that's proprietary anyways. You're not gonna be able
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: to, you, like command a TiVo with our remote. I don't think.
April Sears: But still there there's an opportunity. If if it's, for example, a trainable one then we're just simply having like an up, down, left, right, an okay button or something like that might might do as well in future proofing it.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah but we would increase the price to try to make
April Sears: Mm.
Kathy Waldon: it a trainable one, so
April Sears: Okay.
Kathy Waldon: Well I dunno. One way the other teletext was there but I guess we can remove it or, you know, make two separate
Cynthia Syers: I think
Kathy Waldon: interface
Cynthia Syers: if it's possible
Kathy Waldon: designs.
Cynthia Syers: you should try to you know have a talk with management about that. Just you know
Minnie King: Yeah I
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: don't I don't see the logic. I
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: I don't see the logic in elimination of teletext, I just I I
April Sears: Yeah, and neither
Minnie King: but I'm
April Sears: do I
Minnie King: not a tech-mind
April Sears: in fact.
Minnie King: either. I just don't see the cross-over between computers and and and
April Sears: Bu
Minnie King: 'Cause
April Sears: uh.
Minnie King: we are designing something for a television, okay.
April Sears: I'll communicate that back to those guys there a a and th the message really we wanna be sending to them is that, although teletext may become outdated w there's no l logic in not having it in there anyway
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
April Sears: i if
Cynthia Syers: Right
April Sears: it
Cynthia Syers: it's
April Sears: doesn't
Cynthia Syers: just not
April Sears: affect the price.
Minnie King: We are selling
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: it to an existing market.
April Sears: future-proof our system for future systems that have something else other than teletext maybe.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
April Sears: I
Kathy Waldon: but
April Sears: dunno
Kathy Waldon: we're not
April Sears: I'm
Kathy Waldon: putting
Minnie King: That's
Kathy Waldon: some there's no no putting anything in in the place of teletext.
Minnie King: Yeah, and
April Sears: Mm
Minnie King: and,
April Sears: 'kay.
Minnie King: yeah,
Kathy Waldon: That's the
Minnie King: and
Kathy Waldon: problem.
Minnie King: and we're also marketing a product. It's what I'm seeing is a is a mid-range cost product. So so
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: w we can't go and pump a whole bunch of technology
April Sears: Yeah.
Minnie King: into this thing because all of a sudden we are gonna have cost overruns. So if we drop if we are gonna choose to drop teletext, again what are we adding to the product that makes it marketable?
April Sears: Hmm. So if we're keeping it basic we're loo loo what we're looking to sell it basically is it's uh just being very easy to use, looking exceptionally good, that sort of thing. 'Cause we really don't have anything else there, do we?
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: I don't I don't see it, and to Minnie King if I'm gonna market a product for b for beauty for for design I'm gonna I'm gonna try to market it at a much higher price. I need to make it special with a high price tag. I don't want to make it economically
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: uh g uh competitive. I want I want to market it as exclusive. So I would market this product it at eighty-nine Euros and come up with some really beautiful exterior design or something th but but I
April Sears: But
Minnie King: don't
April Sears: i if
Minnie King: think
April Sears: design
Minnie King: we have that
April Sears: if
Minnie King: flexibility.
April Sears: design is cheap and functionality is basic, then twenty-five Euros is probably a high price for a commoner garden stan standard T_V_ so the place uh remote the then the place we're going to justify that cost is through through design through making it a a sleek elegant high-priced basic remote. Does that make sense,
Minnie King: No I
April Sears: huh?
Minnie King: no I I understand
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: what you say, but what I'm what I'm, okay we probably need to move along,
April Sears: Yeah
Minnie King: but
April Sears: we probably
Minnie King: my
April Sears: should.
Minnie King: my concern
April Sears: We we're doing
Minnie King: is trying
April Sears: alright for
Minnie King: to find
April Sears: time.
Minnie King: a marketing niche for this product, and if I'm coming in with a with with twenty-five Euros, which is mid-market price, um then what am I going to give these people for this?
April Sears: Yeah.
Minnie King: So that's just my question, but we can keep talking.
April Sears: Okay. Sorry that kinda cut into you there.
Kathy Waldon: No just I I would I would advocate for continuing teletext and those would be the basic commands. Um as for, you know, the the case design uh maybe I'll come up with more concrete ideas. Right now it's just the idea of simplicity and slickness, cute
Cynthia Syers: Right.
Kathy Waldon: and small
Cynthia Syers: I'm
Kathy Waldon: um
Cynthia Syers: just thinking you know with all these universal remotes that are out there, how many people how many people actually use every feature that ar you know i like these trainable remotes and things like that, where, you know, it's just so confusing to do to use all these functions. Where I think the largest portion of the market is just gonna you know they lost their T_V_ remote, they need another one that'll work with their T_V_. They want something that looks nice, that that that isn't gonna break when they drop it, that you know that maybe it's it's ergonomic, it feels good in your hand,
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: something like that. I think that's gonna be where you're gonna find the biggest, you know, market share.
April Sears: So we are looking for something that looks good and just works, rather than looking for any special features. Is that
Cynthia Syers: I think
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: the more bells and whistles we add, it's just gonna cut into our into our profits.
Cynthia Syers: Maybe
Kathy Waldon: Yeah mm.
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: five percent,
April Sears: But
Cynthia Syers: you know,
April Sears: we can talk a
Cynthia Syers: and
April Sears: little
Cynthia Syers: how much
April Sears: bit more potentially in the marketing marketing
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: presentation about this.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah okay.
April Sears: Be
Cynthia Syers: I'm
April Sears: a
Cynthia Syers: sorry.
April Sears: good idea. Uh sorry, I didn't mean to cut
Minnie King: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: Sorry boss.
April Sears: in. I'm not the boss. Okay.
Minnie King: Oh P Pedro, I just want to say quickly I I would really like it when you can come up with some more bells and whistles, eh. You know sell uh things come to my mind is uh uh something that's uh um voice-activated. I know we're getting into some, I hope, some big money on this thing,
April Sears: I think
Minnie King: but
April Sears: that's probably a question more for
Minnie King: Is that for over
April Sears: for
Minnie King: here?
April Sears: this
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
April Sears: guy here, yeah.
Minnie King: Okay, alright.
Cynthia Syers: Well it's kinda both of us. Us
April Sears: Is
Cynthia Syers: us
April Sears: it?
Cynthia Syers: user
Minnie King: That's
Cynthia Syers: interface.
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: 'Cause uh
Kathy Waldon: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: and I think of voice-activated So some way
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: that I can I can find my remote by
Cynthia Syers: I was thinking about
Minnie King: clapping
Cynthia Syers: that.
Minnie King: my hands or something
Cynthia Syers: Then your lights
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: would go off,
Minnie King: uh
Cynthia Syers: though.
Minnie King: and and so so um But this 's just something. I'm trying to find some bells and whistles 'cause when they talk about tel taking out teletext, it's like, what are we gonna put in? What makes this thing attractive? And it's only for televisions. So we everyth our our competition out there has got these these multiple adaptors where they can use 'em for their V_C_R_s, their D_V_D_s, their their televisions and we're coming out with one remote for television only. And so to Minnie King we have to
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: make this a really special product I I I don't s I really have to say I don't see the market niche for this product. At this price I don't see it yet. I'm I I go along with this, because this is what we're given to try to market, but I I don't see the market niche for this product
April Sears: Hmm.
Minnie King: without without some really sort of something really special to identify it as as unique in the market.
Kathy Waldon: But we th that should be design.
Minnie King: Yeah.
Kathy Waldon: That should be the design basically.
Cynthia Syers: Right.
Kathy Waldon: I think technology we'd we we're not in the price range to do it. We don't have the money to do it towards t f technology so
Minnie King: Okay.
Kathy Waldon: we should we should aim
Minnie King: Have to
Kathy Waldon: at
Minnie King: do
Kathy Waldon: design.
Minnie King: you have to do it in the box?
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: Okay well,
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: so so that's up to you then to to make this box in something that's absolutely extraordinary.
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: Maybe make it in the form of a gun. We can sell it in United States.
April Sears: I have a question uh for you. Does any of the um the features that Pedro's spoken about here have any implications we might not have thought about on in terms of just pure functionality? In terms of making
Cynthia Syers: I don't
April Sears: it work or the cost of that or
Cynthia Syers: I think all these things are pretty standard. I think we'll be okay.
April Sears: Okay. 'Kay. Cheers. Onto participant four.
Minnie King: Well you know for marketing f marketing for Minnie King is uh and uh how do I go here? Okay.
Cynthia Syers: Mm you can just click.
Minnie King: Go go. Is
Cynthia Syers: No
Minnie King: that
Cynthia Syers: no
Minnie King: right?
Cynthia Syers: no you just get off that. You just click anywhere.
Minnie King: Ah-ha. Yeah, what for Minnie King is it um I d I don't know what I'm marketing right now, okay, 'til you spoke and when I wrote this, I don't know what I'm marketing. I just know that I I was identified as a a we identified ourselves as a as a developer, as a manufacturer, and as a as a um distributor t to other wholesalers. And so the th the twenty-five Euros that we've identified as the sale price is a wholesale price
Kathy Waldon: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: rather than a retail price. That's what we decided here. Um so what I did is I I decided that that this this needs to be a product in a in a sense can market itself. So what we've identified here as our main marketing stratagem is is in design. We're making the most beautiful attractive uh whatever we decide it is. So that means we have about seven more minutes or ten minutes left.
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: Um so I would like to have a product that that we can sell easily. So I say inspiration, so having something beauty, something attractive, uh something that in a sense will sell itself.
Kathy Waldon: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: Uh innovation I think fits into what we're talking about here with design. Uh cutting edge technology, I don't think we're gonna have that, these were ideas I was putting together, um unless we come up with some New Age product a as far as the casing is concerned. I I wanna make this thing something that I can identify as special in some way, so maybe we can have some I I talked about environmentally sensitive, uh maybe we have a product that can be identified in some way as advantageous in a home. I don't know. These are just thoughts. Uh I wanted to talk about uh who we are as a as a corporation, that we're new, we're aggressive, we're competitive, we're we're trying to provide a product from a new perspective rather than from an old corporate line. So to Minnie King it's about selling d uh our identity our corporate identity along with the product. Um what I found is that the projected costs are competitive.
Kathy Waldon: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: Uh we're kind of in the middle of the market, but what I'm seeing is that the market is ready for I I identified new technology, but again, because what I see is budget restrictions and limitations, I don't know that we can bring any new technology into this thing. If if we could have a technological something
Cynthia Syers: I have an
Minnie King: Mm
Cynthia Syers: idea.
Minnie King: p please.
Cynthia Syers: And it's kind of along the s lines of environmentally sensitive, and it may even fit into ergonomics, and even kind of address the issue of losing losing the remote, what we were saying it's a common
April Sears: Mm.
Cynthia Syers: issue. Um what we can do is, well you know that batteries throwing a aw remotes run through batteries like crazy.
April Sears: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: Right? And
Minnie King: Solar.
Cynthia Syers: s for some people Yeah. Well maybe not a solar remote
Minnie King: But solar
Cynthia Syers: but instead what about if we had like a power cradle? Like a a cradle that is is there to hold the remote when you're not using it, so you'll always know where the remote is 'cause you have to put it back there to charge the remote, and we can, instead of having instead of having, you know, replaceable batteries we'll just have a power cell that stays there for the life of the remote. You never have to get go through the go through uh all these different batteries. And also you can I I think it's a good opportunity for the user design or for not just for the user design, but also for the just for the look and feel of the remote as as a whole. You know you could have some kind of neat little, you know, a sexy design for d a cradle and the remote itself.
Minnie King: Blah, I like it. I like the idea, but we're talking about in cost is gonna probably double.
Cynthia Syers: It w it would increase the cost.
Minnie King: But boy, we can sell this thing, because there's no batteries, it's environmentally sensitive, i we can identify it as a safer product in some form.
Cynthia Syers: And you could page the remote if you lose it. Maybe there's a button on the cradle.
Minnie King: Yep, that's right. I really see
April Sears: Now the
Minnie King: But the
April Sears: the question
Minnie King: cost
April Sears: is
Minnie King: i
April Sears: can we make this for less than twelve-fifty per?
Minnie King: No no. No no, we have t we have to change the end cost. There's uh
April Sears: We
Minnie King: I mean
April Sears: we
Minnie King: I don't
April Sears: well do
Minnie King: see
April Sears: we
Minnie King: it
April Sears: necessarily
Minnie King: anyway.
April Sears: have to change the end cost because uh Can we dl can we do that without uh changing it twelve-fifty per product, if we basically can sell more based on this?
Minnie King: Yeah, that's gonna be up to these guys. I
Cynthia Syers: Well
Minnie King: my reaction is
Cynthia Syers: what
Minnie King: no, but
Cynthia Syers: I can do is I can d look into ho well Pedro and I can look into how much this might increase our our costs
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Syers: and you can look into what kind of effect an increased cost is gonna have on our on our final numbers.
April Sears: Yeah we we can certainly push for a more expensive product
Minnie King: Well, see
April Sears: if
Minnie King: I
April Sears: that's
Minnie King: I
April Sears: gonna
Minnie King: see
April Sears: be
Minnie King: I I'm an advocate to make this an exclusive product. You know, let's let's sell this wholesale for for fifty Euros, sixty Euros. Let's make this thing really exclusive, environmentally sensitive, uh high-tech design, uh ergonomics, all of this. Just make this thing uh, yeah, the the the Rolls Royce of of remote controls.
Cynthia Syers: I I
Minnie King: Every home's got to have it. If you don't have one, hey what kind of remote do you have? Oh you've got one of those, oh fantastic, I want one of those too.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: I just don't have enough money right now.
Cynthia Syers: I just don't know about that, because in order to do that in order to price it at that kind of level I think we'd need to have every functionality that all the other competitors are offering like being able to operate, you know, the D_V_D_ player and, you know, the stereo system and all that. Which is a pretty basic function that w we've opted out of. And additionally we're m maybe not supporting teletext um
April Sears: Nah, I think we can say with certainty now that we are supporting teletext.
Cynthia Syers: But I do think there are some basic features that we don't have that a lot of other remotes are going to have.
Minnie King: Yep, one one thing I don't understand is h they've they've given us this package, okay.
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: Now uh in my opinion we need to give them a package back, okay. They say they say okay here you go. They gave us a fundament a foundation of of what they want,
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: and
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: and w it's our place to kinda analyse and evaluate. I don't think it's our place to create their product for them, maybe it is. I don't know what kind of role we have in this in the corporate ladder uh, but to Minnie King it's like, okay, you have got your here's our ideas, okay.
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: And then let them look at those ideas and they say, yeah well, we can we can raise the price twenty percent, you know we like this idea, this idea no, but to Minnie King it's it's about a choice, do we follow their directives or do we make uh presentations back and and then and then discuss? beca I I do not I do not see the market niche for the product that they're handing f handing us
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: right now. I don't
Cynthia Syers: I don
Minnie King: see it.
Cynthia Syers: I I d I have to disagree though. I think our market niche is basically people who need who have lost their remote or uh who've broken their remote and don't wanna send back to the manufacturer, they just wanna run out to the store and get a remote, and then they're gonna look on the shelf and they're gonna see ours is the nicest looking remote. It does what they need. These aren't I I think that
April Sears: And
Cynthia Syers: it
April Sears: and th to get to back to another point, sorry uh uh for cutting in but, I th I think it's important to remember that that this remote has to work with multiple T_V_s, yeah, 'cause it's
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: selling on its own. It's not going to be specifically
Minnie King: Right.
April Sears: for Hitachi
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: T_V_s or or
Minnie King: No I
April Sears: whatever.
Minnie King: understand that.
April Sears: So technologically, if I understand it, uh T_V_s T_V_ remote's working exactly the same way as video remotes and D_V_D_ remotes. All you need to do is train them to the individual one, all you need to do is is know the the f like some four-digit code. So
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: saying that it works with all T_V_s is equivalent to saying that it'll work with D_V_D_s
Minnie King: Nope,
April Sears: and
Minnie King: they've identified
April Sears: other things.
Minnie King: the product as not working for anything but televisions.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
Minnie King: They've
Kathy Waldon: y
April Sears: Oh okay
Minnie King: identified
Kathy Waldon: y
April Sears: okay.
Kathy Waldon: you
April Sears: We
Kathy Waldon: you
Minnie King: this
April Sears: have
Kathy Waldon: wouldn't
Minnie King: product
April Sears: done this.
Minnie King: limita That's why I say I
Kathy Waldon: The
Minnie King: don't
Kathy Waldon: interface
Minnie King: I
Kathy Waldon: will
Minnie King: don't
Kathy Waldon: be different.
Minnie King: see the market niche for this. If
April Sears: I see.
Minnie King: we if w if we were going to have a product that worked for D_V_D_s, V_C_R_s and everything, then
April Sears: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: I can see the market niche, but we we're only identified as going for televisions without teletext. And it's
Cynthia Syers: Right.
Minnie King: like whoa we ha in my opinion we have to go with something that's extremely exclusive
Cynthia Syers: Well here's
Minnie King: to make this thing marketable,
April Sears: And I
Minnie King: because
April Sears: I'd
Minnie King: who wants just
April Sears: Mm sorry.
Minnie King: a television
Cynthia Syers: Right.
Minnie King: remote? I
Cynthia Syers: We
Minnie King: don't.
Cynthia Syers: he well here's my thing about that. If you're in the market for this ultimate remote, you're not gonna go for just a television remote. If it can't
Minnie King: That's right.
Cynthia Syers: control if it can't control your your D_V_D_ player and a al if y if you can't get that all-in-one ultimate remote, that just you can throw all your other remotes away. I'm not gonna buy a d seventy-five Euro remote.
Minnie King: I I I have a tendency to agree with you. I really do.
April Sears: So
Minnie King: That's
April Sears: we
Minnie King: why
April Sears: really
Minnie King: I say
April Sears: can't
Minnie King: I quest
April Sears: chase
Minnie King: I q
April Sears: that.
Minnie King: I question the marketability of the product. I really question
Cynthia Syers: So I think
Minnie King: where
Cynthia Syers: what we
Minnie King: we create the demand.
Cynthia Syers: So
April Sears: We're
Cynthia Syers: that's
April Sears: really
Cynthia Syers: what
April Sears: looking
Cynthia Syers: I'm saying
April Sears: for something basic. The the one thing that that that you said really struck a chord with Minnie King here in that we're we're carrying the corporate identity with the product, but we're actually looking for a large profit at the same time where I'd be inclined to go back to upper-level management and say like let's just cut down our profit expected on this product because we are actually branding our company here. We're selling more than just the product. We're trying to get mind-share about uh Real Reaction to to the people who are gonna buy consumer electronics. We want people to eventually say, oh that's that's Real Reaction that's a good m make. It's reliable. And and we're gonna make it we're gonna win mind-share by uh either being a fantastic product or for it working, it just being good, reasonable-priced, and solid. So if we can make if we can put an emphasis here on it not breaking I
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: think that's in itself an
Cynthia Syers: I
April Sears: extremely
Cynthia Syers: think that's big.
Minnie King: W okay if
April Sears: big
Minnie King: you
April Sears: thing.
Minnie King: if you drop the cost, now if you make if you make go to the other side of the cost scale, and you make it less expensive, then all of a sudden now we're going into an a a new market area. So we can say low-cost uh uh um
Kathy Waldon: Good
Minnie King: uh
Kathy Waldon: design.
Minnie King: good design, beautiful,
April Sears: We only have a few minutes
Minnie King: wa-da-da-da-da-da.
April Sears: left.
Minnie King: But what I'm saying is right now we're middle market.
April Sears: Is twenty-five Euros a mid-market price for a remote?
Minnie King: Yeah for
April Sears: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: I think
Minnie King: for
Cynthia Syers: so,
Minnie King: multi
Cynthia Syers: yeah.
Minnie King: for a multi-function remote, that's a mid-market price. In a discount right now you can buy 'em on sale sometimes for about about uh eighteen, nineteen Euro, and that's for
April Sears: Okay.
Minnie King: the multi-functions, uh D_V_D_, V_C_R_, uh catch-alls. And and they have 'em in a little box in the middle, and and this is the consciousness that most people have about replacement remote controls. So to Minnie King, to market this a t only a television remote control we have to change consciousness. We have to have something that will change people's thinking to identify this as advantageous, and I don't know what that is. It's gotta be low-cost or high-cost with with special design features.
April Sears: Well I'd be inclined to say, if we can make the design better than any comparable remote while reducing the cost, then that's the way we really should play it.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
April Sears: If we can take it down to you know fifteen rather than twenty-five and make a low profit-margin on it, but we're really doing that to sell the brand. Yep we have five minutes left. Uh rather
Minnie King: Or my d
April Sears: th uh to to to sell for Real Reactions. And I can communicate this to to the more senior uh mm people within the company here to to get a reaction.
Cynthia Syers: What about um the idea that I had with the cradle? How do you feel about that? Or how does
April Sears: Well
Cynthia Syers: everybody
April Sears: how does
Cynthia Syers: feel?
April Sears: everybody feel? I
Minnie King: I mean I
April Sears: I think
Minnie King: I well we g we're talking about the other end now. I like it. I like
Cynthia Syers: No,
Minnie King: the
Cynthia Syers: but
Minnie King: idea,
Cynthia Syers: I that's the
Minnie King: but
Cynthia Syers: thing
Minnie King: we have
Cynthia Syers: I
Minnie King: t
Cynthia Syers: I
Minnie King: we
Cynthia Syers: don't
Minnie King: have
Cynthia Syers: think
Minnie King: to find
Cynthia Syers: it's necessarily
Minnie King: out
Cynthia Syers: the other end.
April Sears: The other the o the problem with that in my mind I just think off-hand as a as a consumer, would I wanna buy that? And I think maybe not because I've got a remote and I'll take it to different chairs, I'll take
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: it to different I w I don't wanna go over somewhere and put it down. It
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: i if it is gonna be somewhere that you put it down then it needs to be at the side of your armchair, and that implies that there's only one T_V_ user. So it's very good for some people but
Cynthia Syers: Well
April Sears: it's
Cynthia Syers: it lasts
April Sears: not a like
Cynthia Syers: it would last for several hours on its own power, but when you're done with it you put it back in the cradle.
April Sears: But it it takes away the ease of use of the remote to a
Cynthia Syers: Yeah
April Sears: certain extent.
Cynthia Syers: well it
April Sears: You have to l sort of remember. You
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: have to d shift down the side of the couch to find it and put it back and
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: Yeah. I d
Minnie King: Well.
April Sears: I d I d I think it it in my mind it doesn't seem like something that oh I'd really want uh because
Minnie King: Mm.
April Sears: of that fact. But I I don't know, that's just my opinion.
Minnie King: Well, I think again it's it we have a cost issue here. You know if we're gonna go in this direction, to Minnie King we're going to the other side of the cost range. Are we
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: gonna make this selling selling the cost as a high high-tech uh um environmentally sensitive whatever, or are we gonna go to the lower side of the range? Again I don't see our market niche in the middle for our product yet. I don't
April Sears: 'Kay.
Minnie King: see it yet.
April Sears: So what do we think maybe we should Pedro, do you have any opinion on it?
Kathy Waldon: Uh we should keep it simple, mm medium-low cost mar um cost area and uh make it look good.
Minnie King: W a question I have in in a 'cause I I I think I agree with you on, we gotta make it a box. The box is gonna sell it I think,
April Sears: Really
Minnie King: the outside,
April Sears: need to wrap
Minnie King: the casing.
April Sears: up now.
Minnie King: Can can can we have multiple designs? Have a modern, have a traditional, have a you know, and so so instead of them all looking the same, people can have maybe four or five different designs they can choose from. I don't know what that creates cost, or
Cynthia Syers: Well the the problem with that is we may end up with a whole bunch of inventory of a
Minnie King: Yep one
Cynthia Syers: of
Minnie King: over
Cynthia Syers: a poor
Minnie King: another.
Cynthia Syers: design
Minnie King: Yeah, okay,
Cynthia Syers: you know.
Minnie King: I hear
Cynthia Syers: So
Minnie King: that.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah, complicated but
Cynthia Syers: Um but what we could do is some kind of well I mean Yeah we we need to, I mean, have a few designs to look at and then come up with something that I think we all agree is, you know, the best fit. I think w what's really important is it has to look good, it has to feel it has to feel good in your hand,
April Sears: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: it has to be durable, it has to a and I think it's really important that it doesn't look cheap. I
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: think I think we have to make sure people look at it an and feel like it its like a quality remote. Even
Minnie King: What ab
Cynthia Syers: though the cost
Minnie King: what ab
Cynthia Syers: may be low.
Minnie King: what about a a remote that's that doesn't maybe look like a remote? Just an idea.
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: Just just okay 'cause I mean we all know what a remote looks like on the outside. They're selling these things everywhere. Maybe that could be part of our design exclusivity, is we make a remote that doesn't even look like a remote it it opens like a telephone.
Cynthia Syers: Or what if it looks like a pen?
Minnie King: Doesn't matter, yeah.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: I'm just jus I talking about some
Cynthia Syers: A pointer?
Minnie King: something to make this thing unique. It That's the thing, I'm gonna keep thumping on.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: I'll sell whatever
April Sears: Mm.
Minnie King: you guys design.
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
Minnie King: I don't have a problem selling a product, that's not the issue. I give you ideas, you guys create the product. Once you have the finished product I'll find a way to sell it. Don't worry about it. I just give you these things now, because these are my thoughts and feelings.
Kathy Waldon: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: So just to touch on m my point one last time that I had brought up. Um I really un unless you guys are die-hard against the fact that um it's possible like it reduces the usability of the remote b and the fact that you can't lose it on your own, I think it still might be a good idea to investigate having like
April Sears: Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: a power cradle.
Kathy Waldon: Okay. Yeah.
Cynthia Syers: Because I really think i in a certain sense it almost like for Minnie King I would want to have that just, because I know at the end of when I'm done watching T_V_ that when I'm done, oh I better go find the remote and put it back where it belongs. Maybe th th th that's just some people that like that.
April Sears: I mean
Cynthia Syers: A lot
Minnie King: No
April Sears: there's
Cynthia Syers: of
April Sears: al
Cynthia Syers: people
Minnie King: no.
April Sears: there's also remote controls I remember that that worked uh, this hasn't been done in a while I think, but th as a as a watch.
Cynthia Syers: As a watch?
April Sears: Yeah, there
Cynthia Syers: Mm
April Sears: is remote
Cynthia Syers: 'kay.
April Sears: control watches um, but I think they're a sorta eighties thing, so it might not be easy to market in it
Kathy Waldon: Yeah
April Sears: uh but the the technologies
Kathy Waldon: they are not simple.
April Sears: came along and it might be cheaper to make now. Those things may have been inexpensive for all I know.
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: One thing I just thought about when you were saying that, is that the p our target market is gonna be someone who has lost or broken
Cynthia Syers: That's
Minnie King: We
Cynthia Syers: what
Minnie King: gotta stop?
Cynthia Syers: I was saying.
Minnie King: Who's lost
April Sears: Gotta cut
Minnie King: or broken
April Sears: up.
Minnie King: their their remote. So how many remotes do they wanna buy? Can we p can we sell them a remote that can maybe guarantee they will not
Cynthia Syers: Exactly.
Minnie King: need to buy another one?
April Sears: Mm.
Kathy Waldon: Yeah.
Minnie King: And so with with with this kind of system
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: or locator or something, to to think about, how have people been been losing or breaking
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
Minnie King: their remote? How does this happen?
April Sears: The
Cynthia Syers: And
April Sears: last
Cynthia Syers: also
April Sears: remote
Cynthia Syers: presumably
April Sears: you'll ever buy.
Cynthia Syers: they've
Minnie King: And and then and then design the product, maybe some component of the product that can identify this as the last one you'll ever need to
April Sears: Well
Minnie King: buy.
Cynthia Syers: Exactly.
April Sears: if if we're going down that then we can we don't need to go the it it strikes Minnie King that the locator feature might actually be
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
April Sears: uh quite expensive to make. Whereas actually just putting it in a power cradle might not be too expensive at
Cynthia Syers: True.
April Sears: all because that's just done with mobile
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: phones you can just n we
Cynthia Syers: Yeah.
April Sears: we have
Cynthia Syers: The locator'll
April Sears: said we have
Cynthia Syers: definitely
April Sears: actually similar
Cynthia Syers: be more
April Sears: products
Cynthia Syers: expensive.
April Sears: that we can take from and potentially cut costs there.
Cynthia Syers: Mm-hmm.
April Sears: Um need to look into whether we can do that but uh I think we we have some m mobile phone-based products uh checking quickly our Internet. We really need to finish up here.
Minnie King: uh
April Sears: But uh
Minnie King: we can make it in the shape of a coffee pot.
April Sears: Yeah we have the the power-adaptor products. We sell power-adaptor products. So for example
Minnie King: It's
April Sears: there's
Minnie King: uh just
April Sears: nothing
Minnie King: it's
April Sears: stopping
Minnie King: that
April Sears: us
Minnie King: I think it's telling us to stop
April Sears: using
Minnie King: our
April Sears: that
Minnie King: meeting.
April Sears: technology. Yeah.
Minnie King: So we have the c we probably have have on-line in our in our system, we have the ability to create this, we're talking about.
April Sears: Yeah I
Minnie King: A charging
April Sears: think so,
Minnie King: system.
April Sears: without it being too In fact we can cut costs through using the manufacturing that's already gonna be in place
Cynthia Syers: Right.
April Sears: here.
Minnie King: If if we can create this we have probably five or six or seven really strong marketing characteristics.
Cynthia Syers: Right. I think one
April Sears: Okay.
Cynthia Syers: of the things that we can put right on the box is, never buy another battery.
April Sears: Yep.
Cynthia Syers: You know, something like that.
April Sears: 'Kay. Thanks guys.
Kathy Waldon: Yep.
Minnie King: No that's not what I want, I want Oh look it here. | April Sears reviewed new requirements for the project with the group and discussed their implementation. Kathy Waldon presented the basic components of a remote control device and how they work together. He showed that the size of the chip they will use is dependent on how many complicated functions are included. Cynthia Syers stressed that the project should focus on a simple design for the device. The group discussed not being able to include a teletext component, and that the product design would have to be the main selling point of the device. Minnie King discussed his marketing strategy for the project, again stressing the attractiveness of the product design. Kathy Waldon proposed including a battery charging stand with the device but it was decided that it was not a useful feature. The group continued to discuss the marketing strategy for the device as it would not include many advanced technological functions; they discussed including a guarantee for the remote and using a unique form factor. | 2 | amisum | test |
Lori Jamieson: So in last meeting we have discussed the conceptual design and we asked you to prepare a prototype for the for the remote control. So.
Kendra Clayton: Okay.
Lori Jamieson: So let's see the what
Kendra Clayton: Yeah, so
Lori Jamieson: did you prepare.
Kendra Clayton: can you go out to the shared folder? Mm the
Lori Jamieson: Sh
Kendra Clayton: shared folder.
Lori Jamieson: share folder for
Kendra Clayton: Yes.
Lori Jamieson: th your presentation?
Kendra Clayton: We have a presentation.
Lori Jamieson: Because I have here
Kendra Clayton: Uh So I got the participant uh three. W uh. Three. It's the final design, yeah.
Lori Jamieson: Okay just one.
Kendra Clayton: S so so I discussed with
Sandra Oden: Mm.
Kendra Clayton: Guillaume. Right.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: And uh so we have and we we are both agreed on some two versions of the prototypes, because we not decided whether we to have an L_C_D_ or not because it's too expensive. So we come up with two versions. One with and one without L_C_D_s. Um but both comes with a charger and then detachable and uh or control module. And detachable big buttons for all people um. So.
Sandra Oden: okay so I'll show you the the two prototypes. Here we have the first one with the beautiful uh L_C_D_ um display. You you can s here. And you can uh just um browse into the the navigation menu by uh joystick
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: joystick-like uh button. You can uh choose the direction and if you just push on it it's considered like
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: a enter function.
Kendra Clayton: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Oden: You have on the mm on the side here the microphone for the for the speech recognition. And here the the switch that control if you
Lori Jamieson: Why
Sandra Oden: want
Lori Jamieson: you why you you put it in the the side?
Sandra Oden: Well I I I think uh it's
Lori Jamieson: It's not
Sandra Oden: the
Lori Jamieson: a good place maybe.
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: No i i
Sandra Oden: but
Kendra Clayton: it's the all around camer uh microphone isn't it. The the microphone picks up
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: the speeches
Rita Jones: Is it an
Kendra Clayton: from
Rita Jones: only
Kendra Clayton: anywhere.
Rita Jones: a single mic or a microphone array?
Sandra Oden: Well so it's a microphone array.
Lori Jamieson: Oh it's
Rita Jones: Mm-hmm.
Lori Jamieson: very costly, microphone
Sandra Oden: No
Lori Jamieson: array.
Sandra Oden: it's
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: just a single microphone, and you I I think uh we we put it here because I think when you when you are browsing your L_C_D_
Rita Jones: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: you will be close to well it's better to to to place it here th
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: than here,
Rita Jones: Okay.
Sandra Oden: for instance.
Kendra Clayton: yeah.
Sandra Oden: And here is a little switch that control if you want the the speaker uh recognition system to um to be on or off. And uh so this remote control comes up with its charger.
Lori Jamieson: How much does it cost this one?
Sandra Oden: Well this this prototype is um made for about uh well fi
Kendra Clayton: For the
Sandra Oden: fi fifteen fifteen dollars
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: Fifteen dollars?
Sandra Oden: fifteen dollars, but uh well it's
Lori Jamieson: above
Sandra Oden: not
Lori Jamieson: it's
Sandra Oden: it's not
Lori Jamieson: above
Sandra Oden: uh
Lori Jamieson: the budget.
Sandra Oden: yeah, but uh it's just a prototype and if we uh if we optimises the um the uh voila.
Rita Jones: The cost would be le reduced.
Sandra Oden: Yeah the and the
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: the production costs we we can achieve
Kendra Clayton: Hmm.
Sandra Oden: uh about ten dollars.
Lori Jamieson: How many b battery is there?
Sandra Oden: How many, excuse Rita Jones?
Lori Jamieson: Battery.
Sandra Oden: Well uh f battery, we use uh
Kendra Clayton: Is
Sandra Oden: about
Kendra Clayton: it n
Sandra Oden: uh
Kendra Clayton: the two A_A_s batteries in
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: it. A_A_ rechargeable batteries.
Sandra Oden: Rechargeable of course,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah rechargeable
Sandra Oden: because we have
Kendra Clayton: batteries.
Sandra Oden: the charger.
Kendra Clayton: We have the charger so
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: it's no problem.
Sandra Oden: and you just
Lori Jamieson: So one one battery?
Sandra Oden: On uh yeah one battery.
Rita Jones: Is that two or one?
Lori Jamieson: It's kinetic reserve.
Kendra Clayton: Actually uh it's a flexible thing. You just n
Rita Jones: Now
Kendra Clayton: uh
Rita Jones: what is the whole day rating for that?
Sandra Oden: The
Rita Jones: Whole
Sandra Oden: excuse
Rita Jones: day's
Sandra Oden: Rita Jones?
Rita Jones: rating. What type of battery?
Sandra Oden: Oh yeah it's just a r uh simple battery a rechargeable uh
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: if you uh
Kendra Clayton: yeah.
Sandra Oden: like it's exist.
Rita Jones: Something like a two A_, A_ three size batteries?
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: So and if you want to charge the battery you just put the remote control like that
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: to plug in the
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: the charger and uh leave it uh alone,
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: it's alright. Then the next time you pick it, oh
Kendra Clayton: At
Sandra Oden: it
Kendra Clayton: uh
Sandra Oden: works.
Kendra Clayton: yeah. I forgot to tell you there is only a single button there,
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: b this
Sandra Oden: just explain
Kendra Clayton: button
Sandra Oden: the button uh
Kendra Clayton: yeah alright.
Sandra Oden: Norman.
Kendra Clayton: This button is like the mouse is like a joystick, you can move in three hundred and sixty degrees of direction so you can make a turn and it the additi functions associated to all the actions you ma you have a click you have a double click
Lori Jamieson: Mm.
Kendra Clayton: all in a single button. You can move up, down, left, right, or you can do a swing. So a swing to the left, a swing to the right defines other functions. So even though it's a single button, but it is pretty s flexible because of the three hundred and sixty degree movement.
Rita Jones: And the L_C_D_ is this one, on the
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: remote?
Sandra Oden: Yep.
Kendra Clayton: This is the version y that comes with L_C_D_.
Rita Jones: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Here I present another version without the L_C_D_.
Lori Jamieson: I think it's not a good idea because after maybe one or two months
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Lori Jamieson: of function is getting destroyed. If
Kendra Clayton: Uh
Lori Jamieson: you
Kendra Clayton: okay
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: this is
Sandra Oden: it's
Kendra Clayton: new prototype uh.
Sandra Oden: So we have the the second version also with the different uh button configuration. The second version is also simpler, we d uh we had just uh I have to put the microphone also. So basically th it's the
Rita Jones: Uh-huh
Sandra Oden: same
Rita Jones: and also
Sandra Oden: uh
Rita Jones: the switch.
Sandra Oden: yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Rita Jones: Okay.
Sandra Oden: Basically
Kendra Clayton: yeah.
Sandra Oden: it's the same uh things uh uh as uh I presented before. But here we have uh we have uh four buttons for navigation. Press one button uh acting
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: as a a enter button. So um yeah according to what you said it's more robust to the user.
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Rita Jones: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Oden: And uh it's also cheaper to produce. We can produce uh such remote control for about uh four dollars.
Lori Jamieson: No four dollars, it's good.
Rita Jones: And I think you forgot a point here have an button to find the charger,
Kendra Clayton: Oh no th
Rita Jones: because that's
Kendra Clayton: actually
Rita Jones: a major
Kendra Clayton: th
Rita Jones: that's
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: we'll
Rita Jones: a
Kendra Clayton: come
Sandra Oden: it's
Kendra Clayton: to that
Sandra Oden: it's
Kendra Clayton: point in
Sandra Oden: it's
Kendra Clayton: our
Sandra Oden: embed in the
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: uh speech recognition system.
Rita Jones: Okay and
Sandra Oden: So
Rita Jones: if you disable speech recognition system then?
Kendra Clayton: W w I'll I'll come to that point later
Rita Jones: Mm
Kendra Clayton: on.
Rita Jones: hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm.
Sandra Oden: so Norman will explain to you.
Lori Jamieson: And
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: we
Rita Jones: Okay.
Lori Jamieson: will we will serve the charger with this?
Sandra Oden: Yeah yeah
Kendra Clayton: Th they
Lori Jamieson: With
Sandra Oden: of course
Lori Jamieson: the remote control.
Sandra Oden: mm.
Kendra Clayton: either these with the uh the the charger any in either versions you they they ha they use the same charger
Lori Jamieson: Okay
Kendra Clayton: yeah.
Lori Jamieson: so the price of the charger included in the
Kendra Clayton: Uh it's a standard module so you should get it for a cheap price uh.
Sandra Oden: Thank thank you.
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Sandra Oden: And so
Kendra Clayton: It's that
Sandra Oden: mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: same charger that you can use for the hand-phone but uh again depends on the types. I think we have to investigate more on that, but
Lori Jamieson: The price should be below twelve
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: and a half Euro.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Lori Jamieson: Well
Kendra Clayton: but
Lori Jamieson: that's
Kendra Clayton: as the Marketing
Lori Jamieson: so
Kendra Clayton: Manager says, people is willing to people are willing to pay more for good design.
Rita Jones: Yeah people
Lori Jamieson: We
Rita Jones: are willing
Lori Jamieson: have
Rita Jones: to
Lori Jamieson: we
Rita Jones: pay more,
Lori Jamieson: have just
Rita Jones: but the company is not willing to invest more
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: The price
Rita Jones: at the
Lori Jamieson: of
Rita Jones: moment.
Lori Jamieson: selling is twenty
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: five Euros.
Kendra Clayton: Mm-hmm.
Lori Jamieson: And the price of
Sandra Oden: Alright
Lori Jamieson: production
Sandra Oden: please uh go on Norman with the special
Rita Jones: Or
Sandra Oden: features.
Rita Jones: uh
Kendra Clayton: Yeah we'll we'll come up to that, the the the thing that makes this the controller cheap is that it is modular so you want more function you pay more. If you want less function i i if you want a reasonable price you pay for the functions that you add on to the system, so is uh modular.
Lori Jamieson: That's for this basis function and if you want more you pay
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Lori Jamieson: more.
Kendra Clayton: yeah,
Rita Jones: Something
Kendra Clayton: for example
Rita Jones: like
Kendra Clayton: the L_C_D_,
Rita Jones: customised.
Kendra Clayton: you can take it
Rita Jones: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: you can put
Lori Jamieson: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: it put it back in, or you can use the other one, or the speech recogniser with the microphone yeah yeah. You want a microphone to put in the
Lori Jamieson: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: speech recogniser you don't wan you pay less for the system you see.
Rita Jones: Mm hmm hmm hmm.
Kendra Clayton: So
Rita Jones: Hmm okay.
Kendra Clayton: It's pretty flexible in the yeah
Sandra Oden: You also
Kendra Clayton: price.
Sandra Oden: have the
Lori Jamieson: But
Sandra Oden: the the two other modules for the parental control
Kendra Clayton: Uh yeah yeah you should
Rita Jones: And
Sandra Oden: that
Kendra Clayton: present
Rita Jones: this
Sandra Oden: that
Kendra Clayton: that.
Rita Jones: is
Sandra Oden: you ca
Rita Jones: other one?
Sandra Oden: you can add up to the to your remote control i i if you uh if you want to to have more more power on what you do,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: and uh which channel you want to choose and so on. H here is just the the the module for the kids and th if the parents want
Rita Jones: Mm
Sandra Oden: to
Rita Jones: hmm hmm
Sandra Oden: watch
Rita Jones: hmm.
Sandra Oden: T_V_, up they come up with their modules, they just plug in it
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: and they can have all the control they want here.
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: We also have this module for uh old people
Kendra Clayton: Hmm.
Sandra Oden: with big buttons, clearly labelled, and it acts like the previous
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: one, you just plug in and it works.
Rita Jones: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah the i the idea the the conceptual idea is that simplicity and powerful. Simplicity meaning that we have few buttons, powerful is that all the controls with the one you saw we saw earlier in the meetings with lots of buttons n but here you only have few buttons but you retain the mm the same powerful functionalities. But in addition with simplicity. So that's the best idea, the cond that that's our uh an innovation um uh i in this uh design here.
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: Okay now we come to other important features that I did not tell you. The first one is the speech recogniser, again it's detachable or add-on. And then we also have security feature for example this here oop it's very robust, it doesn't break and the material, what's the material
Sandra Oden: The
Kendra Clayton: again?
Sandra Oden: titanium and
Lori Jamieson: Titanium.
Sandra Oden: so it's very uh
Kendra Clayton: Again uh and the battery life is uh is an is an endurable one, again because this is A_A_ batteries you can choose the types of battery you want.
Rita Jones: Yeah that's fine.
Kendra Clayton: Lithium-ion may be a good one, but you can replace it with cheaper one, again you pay for what you get, and then um y the other p points are robust and misplacement reminder. So when you finish watching your T_V_ and you the you t you turn off the T_V_, uh and then there's this message coming out that uh please put that back to the charger,
Rita Jones: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: so that's the or is it that's the reminder part. Yeah and um And it also use a programmable channel and vocabulary, so we didn't define the vocabulary so it's up to the user to define
Rita Jones: Mm hmm hmm hmm.
Kendra Clayton: so sorry? And then uh because of the chil because children are using the device so we have also a a of T_V_ programmes by genre, and this can be used by the adult or by the children. So instead of choosing the channel you are choosing the T_V_ contents of the night. So it's pretty powerful, and that's that's why the num buttons are reduced, because of this feature. Yeah. And and for the materials that is cheap to produce I think uh it's quite clear from yeah. And also like the and the fancy designs yeah. Maybe we can
Lori Jamieson: What
Kendra Clayton: improve
Lori Jamieson: what's
Kendra Clayton: more on the design
Lori Jamieson: Maybe yeah. What's
Kendra Clayton: but
Lori Jamieson: the price to p to produce?
Kendra Clayton: uh this is the
Sandra Oden: Well so the price to produce For uh the simplest one, say we start from four dollars to produce such a device. Uh it's
Lori Jamieson: With
Sandra Oden: about
Lori Jamieson: with
Sandra Oden: it
Lori Jamieson: with the
Sandra Oden: The
Rita Jones: With the
Lori Jamieson: charge?
Rita Jones: charger?
Sandra Oden: without without the charger
Lori Jamieson: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: it's about uh well two dollars to produce uh the microphone and speech recognition systems. Two dollars for the uh for the add-on modules, and finally three dollars for the charger. So if you uh sum up uh everything
Lori Jamieson: We don't have charger.
Sandra Oden: wi with the L_C_D_, which costs two dollar, you have two plus four plus four plus two plus two. It's
Rita Jones: I think
Sandra Oden: about
Rita Jones: we can use Excel.
Lori Jamieson: We don't have all the options.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: so the total
Lori Jamieson: Charger
Sandra Oden: cost if
Lori Jamieson: we
Sandra Oden: you
Lori Jamieson: don't have
Sandra Oden: if
Lori Jamieson: charger
Sandra Oden: you want
Lori Jamieson: here
Sandra Oden: all the
Lori Jamieson: either.
Sandra Oden: fuct functionalities will be about uh fifteen dollars.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: No it's
Sandra Oden: But it's just if you want all functionalities.
Lori Jamieson: it's below the the the budget.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: Excuse Rita Jones?
Lori Jamieson: It's below the bu the budget.
Rita Jones: Yeah it's a nice
Lori Jamieson: We
Rita Jones: input but we have an other inputs from the l public demands. I think we will just have a rough look and then we can make our statements, and we can finalise the product based
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: on this discu
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: I think we can just go to my presentation then. We can wind up. Or we could uh come to some f uh final conclusions.
Rita Jones: So the marketing made an evaluation criteria and these were some of the findings, and uh in the market the people are not really interested with L_C_D_, without L_C_D_, with speech recognition interface, or without speech recognition interface, but most of the people what they are interested is first thing is, they want to have an fancy look and feel, it should be very fancy with colourful and uh very handy to hold. And
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: the second thing is it should be much more technologically innovative. Of course in that we could put L_C_D_ or recognition to be more technologically innovative. And the third one is easy to use.
Sandra Oden: Well
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: I think that the technical in innovation is is in the product itself since we haven't yet a remote who are allowing to to choose interactively with the T_V_ screen uh uh with just four buttons.
Rita Jones: Okay and if we go to the next slide, here you can find these are the latest fashion updates, and so this in Paris and Milan they have detected this trends that the this year it's going to be an year of fruit and vegetable, so people are really interested
Kendra Clayton: Spongy
Rita Jones: to see if
Kendra Clayton: spongy.
Rita Jones: they have an remote in the shape of the fruit or a vegetable, or
Kendra Clayton: Mm
Rita Jones: whatever they like.
Kendra Clayton: mm.
Rita Jones: So I think it should be much more customised
Kendra Clayton: Mm
Rita Jones: to make a different
Kendra Clayton: mm.
Rita Jones: uh shapes. And the second thing is, and if the material, they really do not want it to be very hard, as in the case of very pl plastic or titanium, it should be somewhat spongy.
Sandra Oden: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: But the the problem is that uh is it robust to mishandling?
Rita Jones: Um.
Kendra Clayton: We have you should find a material that is robust at the same time spongy.
Sandra Oden: A
Rita Jones: Yeah
Sandra Oden: sponge.
Rita Jones: so
Kendra Clayton: Spongy.
Rita Jones: uh so finally we have these three criterias. One is fancy look, second is innovative, and third is easy to use. So these are the f uh three criteria on which we are going to build our remote.
Kendra Clayton: Mm-hmm.
Rita Jones: So
Sandra Oden: Hmm.
Rita Jones: and we have an evaluation criteria for each one of these, say that we have a seven point scale, from one to seven,
Kendra Clayton: Mm-hmm.
Rita Jones: and for each of the product you could just give Rita Jones the scale according to this.
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: So now you have with L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_, so
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: on this scale, if it is true, if it is if it has a fancy look you could just tell Rita Jones one, or if it is false, it doesn't it looks uh it doesn't look much fancy, then you could just tell Rita Jones seven. So
Kendra Clayton: So
Rita Jones: We can make our study on this and
Kendra Clayton: so is the e evaluation depending on us or other users?
Rita Jones: No no we have you have designed two products now,
Lori Jamieson: Yeah.
Rita Jones: one is with L_C_D_ and without
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_.
Kendra Clayton: But who will give the scoring uh we ourself or
Lori Jamieson: You.
Rita Jones: According
Kendra Clayton: or a
Rita Jones: to
Kendra Clayton: third party?
Rita Jones: you, no according to you designers, how will feel does it uh with
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_? Okay let us make this L_ and without L_C_D_. On on this scale the L_C_D_
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: remote control. How do
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: you look how does it look? D is it very fancy or doesn't look much fancy?
Sandra Oden: Well it doesn't look much fancy I'll I'll say three or four.
Rita Jones: And you both agree for that?
Lori Jamieson: And you?
Kendra Clayton: I think we can improve on the design.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Som
Sandra Oden: It's it
Kendra Clayton: someone
Sandra Oden: it
Kendra Clayton: um commented this is like a the stone age uh design. Um we have been focused all all this time on the
Sandra Oden: Technical
Kendra Clayton: on the technical
Sandra Oden: aspects.
Kendra Clayton: aspect, functional aspect, but also the simplicity.
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: As for the design maybe we c should hire a designer
Rita Jones: So I take
Kendra Clayton: to
Rita Jones: three on
Kendra Clayton: help.
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Rita Jones: with
Sandra Oden: a three.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_? So without
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_ how would you rate it?
Sandra Oden: Uh four.
Rita Jones: Four.
Sandra Oden: I think it's it's uh more easy to make f fancy things when it's not complicated
Kendra Clayton: Yeah. Yeah.
Rita Jones: And in the sense of innovativeness, with L_C_D_.
Sandra Oden: Well it's it's the same for both so I will give a five, six.
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: Five with L_C_D_ and
Sandra Oden: Well five also uh
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: Norman please.
Lori Jamieson: Uh
Kendra Clayton: from the innovation aspect I feel that uh what is most innovative of our prototype compared to the existing prototypes that we saw l in the last meeting is that um the retrieval of T_V_ programmes by content, because uh that is really innovative, and for now and another innovation we have is simplicity and simplicity, few buttons, we've uh
Sandra Oden: With lot of functionalities.
Kendra Clayton: A lot of functionalities.
Rita Jones: So
Kendra Clayton: So
Rita Jones: without
Kendra Clayton: that is
Rita Jones: L_C_D_?
Kendra Clayton: uh that is uh for both th Our gi I think that the our our product is uh has the best in all well this is a biased judgement
Rita Jones: No
Kendra Clayton: because
Rita Jones: no according
Kendra Clayton: we designed
Rita Jones: to design
Kendra Clayton: them.
Rita Jones: aspect we want to know how
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: would you feel the innovativeness?
Kendra Clayton: Uh the innovation is v is very high I think.
Rita Jones: With
Lori Jamieson: For
Rita Jones: L_C_D_.
Lori Jamieson: L_C_D_.
Rita Jones: And without
Kendra Clayton: Both.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_?
Sandra Oden: Mm for both it's
Kendra Clayton: For both.
Sandra Oden: the the same innovations.
Kendra Clayton: It's the same innovation.
Rita Jones: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: So maybe I can put six to seven.
Sandra Oden: six, let's
Lori Jamieson: Without
Sandra Oden: go for
Lori Jamieson: L_C_D_.
Sandra Oden: six.
Kendra Clayton: Both.
Rita Jones: No actually uh to make it with L_C_D_ you make more efforts. So I there is high innovativeness included if you make it with L_C_D_
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: y then when it is without L_C_D_
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: there is not much
Lori Jamieson: Uh no
Rita Jones: innovativeness.
Lori Jamieson: innovative yeah.
Rita Jones: So
Kendra Clayton: Uh
Rita Jones: we
Kendra Clayton: uh
Rita Jones: can't
Kendra Clayton: uh
Rita Jones: go
Kendra Clayton: there w there was a there was a issue here is that what are what is the display on the L_C_D_? We haven't really uh
Sandra Oden: Talk
Rita Jones: I mean
Kendra Clayton: determined
Sandra Oden: about
Rita Jones: that what you are sayin that's
Kendra Clayton: what
Rita Jones: what the
Kendra Clayton: are actually
Rita Jones: design
Kendra Clayton: actually it's good to have a L_C_D_ but what are we gonna display on a L_C_D_?
Rita Jones: No it's like this, I mean on the L_C_D_, according to what I understand from your model is,
Lori Jamieson: So let's remove
Rita Jones: you
Lori Jamieson: it.
Rita Jones: have a joystick here,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah?
Rita Jones: and you have L_C_D_,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: you just press your joystick, you get here a programme.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah but
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Rita Jones: Uh
Sandra Oden: but
Rita Jones: then
Sandra Oden: you have
Lori Jamieson: But
Sandra Oden: the same programme on the T_V_ screen.
Kendra Clayton: Yes exactly.
Lori Jamieson: This is the problem.
Rita Jones: No on the T_V_ you don't it doesn't display on the T_V_ now.
Sandra Oden: If you have the L_C_D_,
Rita Jones: L_C_D_?
Sandra Oden: but if n
Rita Jones: Then uh there is no meaning in having it on the T_V_.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: a channels, volume and all the stuff
Kendra Clayton: But
Rita Jones: and what
Kendra Clayton: you cannot
Rita Jones: a
Kendra Clayton: display all on a L_C_D_.
Rita Jones: I mean that depends upon your design, so
Kendra Clayton: Anyway for for the users who who who opt for L_C_D_
Rita Jones: I mean
Kendra Clayton: we'll give them the give them the L_C_D_, we give what the customer uh wants, right.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: So without L_C_D_ you want to put it fi the same level of innovativeness? And which do you recommend e easy to use, with L_C_D_ or without L_C_D_?
Sandra Oden: Well I think both are really easy to use because there are few button buttons,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: and uh well t p the menu are clear,
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: well-organised, so
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: Well with little knowing of the technology you can you can easily use the product so I will give a six for the easy
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: to use.
Kendra Clayton: I think sorry.
Lori Jamieson: No it's just if I I see the the f the rate I think it's better to do it without L_C_D_. Because
Rita Jones: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: that's with L_C_D_ just will increase the price, and I thi i they have the same rate so
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Lori Jamieson: without L_C_D_
Rita Jones: Or we can
Lori Jamieson: it
Rita Jones: just
Lori Jamieson: will be
Rita Jones: go back to the previous slide uh where we ha we have a few updates. So I mean in the product design you could just amend it to make some few changes
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: according to fruit and
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: vegetable or a spongy touch
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: without L_C_D_ and without speech recognition. Even then our product is going to be
Sandra Oden: Yeah, it's
Rita Jones: very
Sandra Oden: cheaper
Rita Jones: good.
Sandra Oden: to produce.
Rita Jones: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Mm. S
Sandra Oden: And uh if the the well if we have less technology we have more liberty to uh
Rita Jones: Yeah
Sandra Oden: for
Rita Jones: that's
Sandra Oden: the shape
Rita Jones: right.
Sandra Oden: and uh things like that so
Kendra Clayton: Yeah. I have another thing to say about the easy to use aspect. I think the easy to use uh aspect is different for different people.
Sandra Oden: Yep.
Kendra Clayton: For the
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: young generation easy to use may be very complicated because uh they w they wants lot of controls with lots of buttons. For kids they want simply the s similarit
Rita Jones: Yeah
Kendra Clayton: for
Rita Jones: yeah
Kendra Clayton: the old
Rita Jones: that's
Kendra Clayton: people
Rita Jones: right.
Kendra Clayton: they want simplicity, so that's why we have the parental module. Uh we can ha have build a more complex design if if they want it, but but uh what I'm trying to say here is that the um we have different sets of buttons for different kinds of people. So in terms of easy to use I think it's very user customisable. User customisation is very important yeah.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah so
Rita Jones: So without
Sandra Oden: Six.
Rita Jones: L_C_D_ I just take it five?
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Kendra Clayton: W
Rita Jones: Or
Kendra Clayton: uh
Rita Jones: you want it to be six?
Sandra Oden: Um six.
Kendra Clayton: I think it's the same. Yeah.
Sandra Oden: Yes as you say, with better uh
Lori Jamieson: Without
Rita Jones: S s
Lori Jamieson: L_C_D_.
Rita Jones: oh
Sandra Oden: yeah.
Rita Jones: I think it's better to have this without L_C_D_.
Sandra Oden: And to improve the
Rita Jones: As our
Sandra Oden: the
Rita Jones: Programme
Sandra Oden: look.
Rita Jones: Manager s
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: Pro Project Manager says that without L_C_D_ it is going to reduce the cost also,
Lori Jamieson: Yeah.
Rita Jones: and
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: it's going to be much
Sandra Oden: Yes
Rita Jones: simpler
Sandra Oden: and to
Rita Jones: to
Sandra Oden: give
Rita Jones: use.
Sandra Oden: us more liberty to have a fancy look so
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: so let's go back to our laboratory and
Rita Jones: So.
Lori Jamieson: What
Kendra Clayton: To improve
Lori Jamieson: a what
Kendra Clayton: on
Lori Jamieson: what
Kendra Clayton: the design.
Lori Jamieson: about the sys speech recognition?
Kendra Clayton: Huh?
Lori Jamieson: what about the integration of
Kendra Clayton: The
Lori Jamieson: speech
Kendra Clayton: speech recogniser
Lori Jamieson: recognition?
Kendra Clayton: is a add-on module.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Right?
Rita Jones: That's going to be an optional. If somebody wants to buy it they can have it, otherwise
Lori Jamieson: Ah
Rita Jones: no.
Lori Jamieson: so it's optional
Rita Jones: It's
Lori Jamieson: with
Rita Jones: an
Lori Jamieson: the
Rita Jones: optional.
Lori Jamieson: okay.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: It's optional yeah, since well according to this study uh people more
Lori Jamieson: I think
Sandra Oden: likes
Lori Jamieson: it will
Sandra Oden: more
Lori Jamieson: be I
Sandra Oden: to have
Lori Jamieson: think
Sandra Oden: a spongy
Lori Jamieson: i
Sandra Oden: uh remote
Rita Jones: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: control than
Lori Jamieson: I think it will be better if we have all these modules in the same remote control, because maybe parents will
Rita Jones: Yeah, but
Lori Jamieson: lose
Rita Jones: I mean
Lori Jamieson: these
Rita Jones: if you have
Lori Jamieson: uh
Rita Jones: an add-ons, the kids may just uh hide the parental module
Lori Jamieson: Yeah.
Rita Jones: and
Lori Jamieson: Or
Rita Jones: so
Lori Jamieson: ma
Rita Jones: that their
Lori Jamieson: yeah.
Rita Jones: parents can't
Lori Jamieson: Or
Rita Jones: use
Lori Jamieson: maybe
Rita Jones: it.
Lori Jamieson: parents they can for forget where they put it or, so mayb better if you have all this in the same
Rita Jones: In the same set, yeah,
Kendra Clayton: Oh.
Rita Jones: and and individual buttons to make them work.
Lori Jamieson: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: The problem is if i we are bla if a customer wants a certain component, and doesn't want the parental control because it's a couple who do not have children when you sell the product in the market you could meet any kind of people, and not all people will need all the functionalities we propose to them. So we might lose the customer because of this. I don't know, what do you
Lori Jamieson: So
Kendra Clayton: think
Lori Jamieson: you mean that
Kendra Clayton: uh?
Lori Jamieson: even if these modules will be will be functional uh will be optional.
Kendra Clayton: Yes exa what do you think, I don't know. You are Marketing
Rita Jones: I mean
Lori Jamieson: Uh
Rita Jones: how
Kendra Clayton: Manag.
Rita Jones: to how to how to make a marketing survey that
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: uh how many married couple or how many couples have a T_V_ or to the number or singles who have a television.
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: So based on that I think
Kendra Clayton: Yeah. But the the question is n does those modularity increase the production cost or decrease the production cost?
Lori Jamieson: I think it inc increase.
Sandra Oden: if Well you can if you had
Lori Jamieson: I
Sandra Oden: uh
Lori Jamieson: think it
Sandra Oden: something
Lori Jamieson: i increases.
Sandra Oden: li Oh no, because if you if you add uh something well yeah maybe because it's three different pieces uh
Lori Jamieson: Hmm.
Sandra Oden: to to to build but
Rita Jones: But you can make it on a single P_C_ with three different options.
Sandra Oden: Yeah yeah yeah it's I think it's cheaper if you
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: if you already built the all the functionalities um
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: on the same module, but uh
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Rita Jones: On the same P_C_B_
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Rita Jones: yeah
Kendra Clayton: Well
Rita Jones: yeah.
Kendra Clayton: well the other aspect is that if in the when they have the ar existing product you you gonna maintain the the you're gonna keep the same customer, because the same customer will come back to buy other add-ons.
Rita Jones: Yeah that's right.
Kendra Clayton: So
Rita Jones: I mean you could
Kendra Clayton: so
Rita Jones: just provide with an optional.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah i i so if don't don't buy now they can buy i in the future. So in in that way you're actually keeping the cus the same customer, attracting them to come back in again and again.
Rita Jones: So it's something like a Microsoft product
Kendra Clayton: We're
Lori Jamieson: And
Kendra Clayton: not
Rita Jones: update.
Kendra Clayton: trying to follow
Lori Jamieson: and we
Kendra Clayton: the Microsoft
Lori Jamieson: we we we we we don't want that.
Kendra Clayton: and we don't want to the m
Rita Jones: Updates and we sell it. We make updates and sell it.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah well if the buyers can be up the th would be can be upgraded, it would be a good thing right?
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah, it depends on the
Rita Jones: And uh what's the idea about uh
Kendra Clayton: v
Rita Jones: the shape of
Kendra Clayton: production.
Rita Jones: the remote controls? Uh
Sandra Oden: Well
Rita Jones: can
Sandra Oden: so
Rita Jones: they be made into a fruit and vegetable
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Rita Jones: types?
Sandra Oden: yeah
Rita Jones: Do you require different
Sandra Oden: I think
Rita Jones: types
Sandra Oden: we are
Rita Jones: of P_C_B_s and
Sandra Oden: yeah but we are also the um well the components will have to change because uh we have to deal with the shape and um but
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: I don't think it will uh increase the cost too much so
Rita Jones: Or uh it could be like this the P_C_B_ would be the same for all, but only the exterior uh
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: shape is different o for all.
Sandra Oden: Uh well but it's a bit complicated to if if if you need machines to different machines to
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: um ah well
Kendra Clayton: What we can change is to propose the customers with skins. For example the i the mobile phones nowaday,
Rita Jones: Yeah, yeah that's
Kendra Clayton: they sell
Rita Jones: right.
Kendra Clayton: different kinds of skin and then people just feel that oh I have a new skin and looks better.
Sandra Oden: Yeah yeah we can have the same
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: global shape and then uh
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: add on
Rita Jones: Yeah that's
Sandra Oden: skins
Rita Jones: right.
Sandra Oden: and
Kendra Clayton: Yeah.
Sandra Oden: with with this uh tex spongy texture uh things
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: like that.
Kendra Clayton: you can pl in what material would that be in uh?
Sandra Oden: Sponge.
Rita Jones: I think you need to look into the material.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah or furry like a pet dog kind of thing.
Rita Jones: Yeah yeah.
Sandra Oden: Okay.
Lori Jamieson: So
Sandra Oden: So we finished the prototype uh presentation if you have uh something else to say.
Rita Jones: I think Lori Jamieson would be interested to look about the financial issues in making these models.
Lori Jamieson: Project evaluation project satisfaction, for example. I don't know, we have to ask these question. We have to give answers so
Kendra Clayton: I suppose that you this criteria, is it?
Lori Jamieson: Project evaluation.
Kendra Clayton: Room for creativity. This room is a bit small, but but I think it's okay for us to work with.
Rita Jones: I feel it's fine, we know we don't need uh I think it's okay.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah mm.
Sandra Oden: That
Rita Jones: This is
Sandra Oden: was
Rita Jones: fine
Sandra Oden: good.
Rita Jones: for making a presentat
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Rita Jones: for project presentations.
Kendra Clayton: Yeah
Sandra Oden: Yeah.
Kendra Clayton: anyway we have the laboratory nearby to build our modules so it's okay.
Lori Jamieson: Mm-hmm.
Rita Jones: And the leadership was excellent.
Lori Jamieson: Yeah I think so.
Kendra Clayton: Good job
Sandra Oden: Fine yes uh.
Kendra Clayton: good
Lori Jamieson: He gave you the liberty to talk
Kendra Clayton: job.
Rita Jones: Yeah
Lori Jamieson: as
Rita Jones: that's
Lori Jamieson: you
Rita Jones: right.
Lori Jamieson: wants.
Rita Jones: Yeah that's right.
Lori Jamieson: Uh the teamwork was very very good.
Sandra Oden: Very democratic.
Lori Jamieson: I was really I am very satisfying to work with with
Sandra Oden: Thank
Lori Jamieson: you.
Sandra Oden: you.
Kendra Clayton: Thank you.
Lori Jamieson: Oh.
Sandra Oden: Alright.
Kendra Clayton: Alright.
Rita Jones: And new ideas found. Any new ideas to make these presentations more interactive and more interesting?
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: Come up with new product.
Rita Jones: I mean uh what type of product would you think could we make this more interesting?
Lori Jamieson: Less fancy.
Kendra Clayton: Mm we I I know something, we need more cakes, more biscuits on the table while we have meetings.
Sandra Oden: Yeah and also more well uh more seriously I think it's
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: it's a good idea to have uh clear clear points whenever we do a meeting uh prior to the meeting to have uh well a list with the points who will be discussed or things like that, but I think it's alright. We achieved uh project goal I
Rita Jones: Yeah
Sandra Oden: think.
Rita Jones: that is within
Lori Jamieson: De
Rita Jones: the budget.
Kendra Clayton: Mm.
Sandra Oden: It's w yes,
Rita Jones: And the evaluation
Sandra Oden: more
Lori Jamieson: Without
Sandra Oden: or less.
Rita Jones: was
Lori Jamieson: without L_C_D_, without speech recognition,
Rita Jones: Yeah that's
Sandra Oden: Yeah
Rita Jones: right.
Sandra Oden: but
Lori Jamieson: it will be simple.
Sandra Oden: Alright.
Rita Jones: And the next
Sandra Oden: So.
Rita Jones: is celebration. So
Sandra Oden: So uh coffee machine.
Lori Jamieson: Yeah free free coffee.
Sandra Oden: Okay.
Kendra Clayton: Alright then, we finished?
Lori Jamieson: Yeah
Rita Jones: Yeah
Lori Jamieson: thank
Kendra Clayton: Thank
Rita Jones: thank
Lori Jamieson: you
Kendra Clayton: you
Lori Jamieson: for
Kendra Clayton: very
Rita Jones: you,
Lori Jamieson: your
Rita Jones: thank
Kendra Clayton: much.
Rita Jones: you very much.
Lori Jamieson: work and | Kendra Clayton and Sandra Oden presented two prototypes, one with an LCD screen and one without. They demonstrated how to navigate through the menus and presented the voice recognition and energy source components and the charging stand. They discussed their modular design. They discussed the parental control module and the titanium casing. The production costs were below budget for the basic models. Rita Jones presented three important user requirements, and also the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. He then led an evaluation of the prototypes according to these requirements. The group did not feel that the remotes sufficiently met the criteria. They decided to continue working on the design and to take out the LCD screen and voice recognition. They discussed the modular design and its advantages in attracting customers. The group discussed how to incorporate the fashion trends; it was suggested that one shape was used, which could be customized with skins. Lori Jamieson led an evaluation of the group's experience on the project. The group was pleased with the teamwork and leadership, but one participant complained that not enough information was given about each meeting's agenda. | 2 | amisum | test |
Susan Fulton: Okay. Hello everyone.
Melanie Roberts: Hi.
Judith Anderson: Hi.
Amy Wood: Hi.
Susan Fulton: Um how uh we doing
Melanie Roberts: Yeah, good.
Susan Fulton: Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting, more or less.
Amy Wood: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presented uh her method of working, meaning gathering i suggestions from everyone to see how she best could market uh this this product at the within the budget uh that was given. Uh in general the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use. Um it's also an item people lose So we should address that. And, of course, it should be something s s that is very simple to use. In addition to that to make it sell, of course, uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive, or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another so that the people are buying it now because, in particular with smaller items, that's a very important fact, 'cause um if they say, well, I go home and think about it, that won't work. Um also mentioned was it should be uh it should have a very short learning curve. And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan.
Melanie Roberts: Hmm.
Susan Fulton: Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. Therefore, messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. There should be extra features like lid buttons, maybe a beep. If too many buttons are pressed, mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um you could see the time, you know, what show they want to watch. Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. So the components of the thing should be button, bulbs, infra infra-red bulbs, battery, chips, wires, and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item. Francino who is our um
Amy Wood: Interface designer.
Susan Fulton: interface designer um uh has mentioned that the that it, of course, should have an on-off button, and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature. And even possibly a timer to so that people can program their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote.
Amy Wood: Yes.
Susan Fulton: Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time?
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Amy Wood: Yes
Susan Fulton: Okay.
Judith Anderson: Yeah I think pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm
Susan Fulton: Okay, then we I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh, I don't I don't think so, so whoever
Amy Wood: Okay,
Susan Fulton: w wants
Amy Wood: I can start first.
Susan Fulton: Yeah, okay.
Amy Wood: Okay. Now my slide,
Susan Fulton: Okay,
Amy Wood: please.
Susan Fulton: your slides. Okay. Oh, come on, close already. And that's number two, right?
Amy Wood: Three.
Susan Fulton: Three.
Amy Wood: Participant three. Yes.
Amy Wood: Okay.
Susan Fulton: Okay.
Amy Wood: Now as an interface designer, I would give more emphasis on the interface, how the remote looks like so that it is sellable, it is attractive to customers. Next, please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch message or to next message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel, like you can have the numbers one, two, three, four, up to nine.
Susan Fulton: Nine what? Nine channel uh switches?
Amy Wood: Pardon Judith Anderson?
Susan Fulton: Nine channel switches? Is
Amy Wood: Yes,
Susan Fulton: Yeah.
Amy Wood: nine
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: numbers.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: And then you have swapping of uh button
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: by which using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button, and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh
Melanie Roberts: Going
Amy Wood: mm
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: to the nex
Amy Wood: eh
Melanie Roberts: next.
Amy Wood: scrolling the channels one
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: by one. Next slide, please.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: Then, there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example, if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English,
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the the subtitles on the screen. Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour, colour of the picture, the contrast, sharpness, brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call, and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_, but he he can reduce the sound, he can bring the volume down and he can watch he can uh while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers, you can record your own voice
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television, for example, if you want to see we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel, uh th now the the uh yeah, the remote
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: will automatically it will switch to the ninth channel.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features. Then, please,
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: next slide.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: Then, these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour, but they have many buttons.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple, and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah, so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: And this has multi-purpose use, it can be used for T_V_, it can be used for cable-satellite, it can be used for V_C_R_, D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser. Can you go on to the next slide? Yeah, now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: Uh this is user-friendly, it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours, different shapes.
Melanie Roberts: Mm.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons and all the important uh buttons are there in this small, compact, attractive child interface. Next slide, please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace.
Judith Anderson: You don't know
Amy Wood: this.
Judith Anderson: Judith Anderson. I could
Amy Wood: So this
Judith Anderson: lose
Amy Wood: is
Judith Anderson: that
Amy Wood: No
Judith Anderson: in a minute.
Amy Wood: this is a very big, you cannot misplace it anywhere. So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: This i this is one such interface which can be created. And the personal preference uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: uh function.
Susan Fulton: Right.
Amy Wood: Thank you, that's
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: Okay, thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation?
Judith Anderson: Well, um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there.
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Judith Anderson: Um what uh I'm No suggestion's bad.
Amy Wood: Mm yes.
Judith Anderson: But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh the too big to misplace, I think it's just funny. Um I
Amy Wood: Okay.
Susan Fulton: Yeah, I I th I think
Judith Anderson: don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter.
Amy Wood: Okay.
Judith Anderson: It's it's gonna be a little bit
Susan Fulton: No,
Judith Anderson: too
Susan Fulton: I
Judith Anderson: unwieldy.
Susan Fulton: think the these are her presentations,
Judith Anderson: Yeah
Susan Fulton: but
Judith Anderson: mm. Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: uh as far as the decision making we getting
Judith Anderson: Have
Susan Fulton: to
Judith Anderson: to
Susan Fulton: that
Judith Anderson: come back
Susan Fulton: after
Judith Anderson: to that
Amy Wood: We
Judith Anderson: later.
Amy Wood: can.
Susan Fulton: after
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Susan Fulton: but if I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her
Judith Anderson: No,
Susan Fulton: presentation.
Judith Anderson: I think her presentation was good, and
Susan Fulton: Mm right.
Judith Anderson: she really explored all the options. Yeah.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um?
Melanie Roberts: Yeah, maybe.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm. Okay, and you
Melanie Roberts: Participant two.
Susan Fulton: Uh okay.
Melanie Roberts: Uh the next one, sorry.
Susan Fulton: Oops.
Melanie Roberts: It's it was the old one. Components.
Susan Fulton: The components design. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Melanie Roberts: Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: and the technical side of the remote controller design. Uh, can you go on to the
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: next slide, please. I have just brief uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction. Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit, battery, etcetera, etcetera, it's like Uh it can be a plastic one, hard plastic, so that it can be strong, even if you just uh uh, you know, if you if it falls down, then it doesn't break. So it should be strong.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: Uh and
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: uh,
Judith Anderson: Good point.
Melanie Roberts: yeah, and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours, blue, red, green, so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit. Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it you should we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside, it should it should uh be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh um equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery, capacitor. Can you
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: go on to the next slide, please?
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: Uh a diode, a transistor, a resonator, these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh, I would like to suggest one thing uh if we uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery,
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much. It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can If it is a rechargeable one, then uh people can use it for a long time, so in that way we can cut cut the cost, but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide, please. And how it works, how the remote controller works. When you press a button
Susan Fulton: Go away.
Melanie Roberts: Thank you. Uh when you press a button, when you do that, you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button, and it will send some signals through the wires, and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button, number one you have pressed, then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed. It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button, every individual button, has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one, then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b that that button, and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now, that signal, that morse code, has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately, that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal, then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works.
Amy Wood: It works.
Melanie Roberts: Can you go to the next slide, please. Yeah, I have few pictures. remote controller uh it's it's it this is a normal remote controller.
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: And to the next slide, please. And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: and few electronic components, like you can see a chip there
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: which is having eighteen pins, and also a capac uh a capacitor, three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm yeah, and di and a diode transistor.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: The electronic components uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d diode transistors an Yeah, di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: labelled
Amy Wood: Mm
Melanie Roberts: uh
Amy Wood: yes.
Melanie Roberts: chip
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Judith Anderson: Yes.
Melanie Roberts: um. Uh you can also see the uh uh the green two green things are uh these are they are they are resistors,
Amy Wood: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: and uh just beside that you can see a transistor, and a uh uh cylinder shape, uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh um resistors uh sorry, ther there is a diode.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: Can you go
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: go on to the next slide. So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually, uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper, because uh uh when you when you are building uh some circuits some um uh circuits and also wires, it's it's better to go for printing, because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing, nothing
Amy Wood: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: like uh, you know, you don't need to use wires and all. It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board. Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board, and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons, like when you press a button, the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it
Amy Wood: Transmit.
Melanie Roberts: will ch its ch se send a signal signals to the, yeah, um integrated circuit. Can you go to the next slide, please. Uh so this is these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh, round marks?
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: They
Judith Anderson: Yes.
Melanie Roberts: they are the circuits. Next, please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it, but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range.
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Melanie Roberts: Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and
Amy Wood: Okay.
Melanie Roberts: k uh uh uh full a complete chip. Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery, a more ingenious uh hard dynamo, um a kinetic provision of energy, more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery, uh or we can use solar sells.
Judith Anderson: Hmm,
Melanie Roberts: Uh.
Judith Anderson: that's interesting.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually, the cases and card flat that w we
Amy Wood: Okay.
Melanie Roberts: see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller. Um.
Susan Fulton: Okay.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Susan Fulton: And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end
Melanie Roberts: Yeah,
Susan Fulton: of the meeting.
Melanie Roberts: maybe d uh I have just one more slide, I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic, rubber, wood, titanium, but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re or an advanced chip on the print, um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah, that's it. It's all for Judith Anderson now, thank
Susan Fulton: Okay,
Melanie Roberts: you.
Susan Fulton: well thank you. Any particular comments by anybody?
Judith Anderson: Uh yeah, on the scroll and the push-button, um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button?
Melanie Roberts: No, no, no, th the the the scrolling wheels are different, like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls,
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: uh which which we used to do before ten ten years before, I think. Now, nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all. So I think
Judith Anderson: Um.
Melanie Roberts: it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons.
Judith Anderson: We'll just go for push
Melanie Roberts: Yeah
Judith Anderson: buttons
Melanie Roberts: uh yeah,
Judith Anderson: for
Amy Wood: Push-buttons.
Judith Anderson: in
Melanie Roberts: push-buttons.
Judith Anderson: the interest
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: of cost.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Susan Fulton: We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision, and Judith Anderson has to present her
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Susan Fulton: her
Judith Anderson: Go right
Susan Fulton: thing.
Judith Anderson: to my first my next slide.
Susan Fulton: Uh okay.
Judith Anderson: Um alright, my method is uh I'm interested in what the competition is doing, and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition, so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that, I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have, and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that, you know, small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand.
Amy Wood: 'Kay.
Judith Anderson: Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um, they want buttons whose functions are obvious, and they want um as few buttons as possible, and they don't care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute, it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead, I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um and our preference is, as far as I'm concerned, are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be look really great and it has to come out before the others, so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features, um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to li two things, I think, that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel, spongy feeling things, things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item.
Amy Wood: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: Okay. Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote.
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: And uh so what do we think on the concept of the remote?
Judith Anderson: You wanna try to come back to yours, and
Amy Wood: Uh yes,
Susan Fulton: Y
Judith Anderson: limit
Amy Wood: I would
Judith Anderson: yours
Amy Wood: like
Judith Anderson: a
Amy Wood: to
Judith Anderson: bit?
Amy Wood: include this feature which is called as voice recogniser.
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Susan Fulton: Okay. Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Judith Anderson: So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned?
Melanie Roberts: Yeah, but w
Judith Anderson: Yeah h that could that
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: could
Susan Fulton: I
Judith Anderson: that
Susan Fulton: think
Judith Anderson: could
Susan Fulton: that's
Judith Anderson: be our star feature. That that be really good, yeah,
Melanie Roberts: Yeah,
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm.
Judith Anderson: I agree
Melanie Roberts: but
Judith Anderson: with
Melanie Roberts: but
Judith Anderson: that.
Melanie Roberts: I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how how uh far it will work, because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems,
Judith Anderson: Distance
Melanie Roberts: issues.
Judith Anderson: problem?
Melanie Roberts: Yeah, it's not distance problem it it's
Amy Wood: Mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: recognising a person's voice, like maybe different people will be having different voices, so
Judith Anderson: Uh.
Melanie Roberts: it like it's uh everything
Susan Fulton: Well,
Melanie Roberts: so
Susan Fulton: you you
Melanie Roberts: i
Susan Fulton: teach You have to teach
Melanie Roberts: So
Susan Fulton: uh
Melanie Roberts: to get a good recogni recognising
Amy Wood: No,
Melanie Roberts: system,
Amy Wood: it's
Melanie Roberts: it's
Amy Wood: it's,
Melanie Roberts: a
Amy Wood: uh yeah,
Melanie Roberts: costly
Amy Wood: it
Melanie Roberts: thing,
Amy Wood: it's
Melanie Roberts: I think.
Amy Wood: like your recording of uh all uh um a question already, and then you're expecting an answer from th For example, you have a T_V_ system, I'm the user
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: and my family members are the user, I will already record
Melanie Roberts: Yeah, but
Amy Wood: uh
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Amy Wood: a question
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: like, uh good morning, like around eight o'clock I want to see the news
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: in the television. So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on.
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: It will recognise my voice
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Amy Wood: and will switch
Susan Fulton: Okay,
Amy Wood: on.
Susan Fulton: before we get too far off here um, the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee?
Judith Anderson: I
Susan Fulton: Battery.
Judith Anderson: think I think battery,
Susan Fulton: Battery.
Amy Wood: Battery.
Judith Anderson: and I think we all agreed on that. That
Amy Wood: Yes.
Judith Anderson: that's that's gonna
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: be most cost-effective
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: and the best thing.
Susan Fulton: Okay then chip on print.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: Yep.
Amy Wood: Yes.
Susan Fulton: Okay. And the case. And I think we all agree on the case, we wanna have something uh maybe bright, colourful.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Judith Anderson: Bright, colourful,
Amy Wood: And compact.
Melanie Roberts: And also strong.
Judith Anderson: trendy trendy design,
Melanie Roberts: Trendy,
Amy Wood: Trendy design
Judith Anderson: and strong.
Melanie Roberts: yeah.
Amy Wood: and compact.
Susan Fulton: Mm-hmm. Trendy design, compact and strong.
Judith Anderson: Mm-hmm.
Amy Wood: Yes.
Susan Fulton: User interface concept, uh interface type, supplements That will be your
Melanie Roberts: Uh.
Susan Fulton: area I think, right, Jana.
Melanie Roberts: Um like the switches, like we use buttons for user interface.
Amy Wood: Push-buttons.
Susan Fulton: Put uh k
Melanie Roberts: Push-buttons.
Susan Fulton: I guess uh for yeah. And Not sure what they mean
Amy Wood: And
Susan Fulton: by supplements.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Amy Wood: Supplements
Judith Anderson: Well, I think
Amy Wood: like
Judith Anderson: that
Amy Wood: different types of features buttons,
Judith Anderson: Yeah,
Amy Wood: like can
Judith Anderson: or
Amy Wood: have
Susan Fulton: Oh,
Amy Wood: a
Susan Fulton: like
Amy Wood: f mute button
Judith Anderson: or
Amy Wood: or
Judith Anderson: like her speech
Amy Wood: a
Judith Anderson: recognition
Susan Fulton: Oh.
Amy Wood: swapping
Judith Anderson: would also
Amy Wood: button.
Judith Anderson: be a supplement. Her
Susan Fulton: A what?
Judith Anderson: speech recognition
Susan Fulton: Right,
Judith Anderson: feature
Susan Fulton: right,
Amy Wood: Recogniser.
Judith Anderson: would
Susan Fulton: right,
Judith Anderson: be a supplement.
Susan Fulton: mm-hmm.
Melanie Roberts: Mm yeah.
Amy Wood: Yes.
Judith Anderson: Okay, so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible
Melanie Roberts: Hmm.
Judith Anderson: pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Judith Anderson: that is.
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Susan Fulton: Right.
Amy Wood: Yes.
Susan Fulton: Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes, and the uh I_D_ is to this is the individual actions to be taken until then, to have the look and feel design, and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to uh come up with the user interface design,
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: and Judith Anderson with the product evaluation.
Judith Anderson: Okay.
Susan Fulton: In this phase, the two of you, Jana and Francine, have to work together on a prototype
Amy Wood: Okay.
Susan Fulton: using modelling clay, it says here. You will receive
Melanie Roberts: Mm-hmm.
Susan Fulton: specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches.
Amy Wood: Okay.
Susan Fulton: Um if you have any questions, you know, you you can always uh contact Judith Anderson um or uh or your coach, I suppose.
Judith Anderson: Wherever they're hiding?
Susan Fulton: Um so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes,
Melanie Roberts: Yeah.
Amy Wood: Okay.
Susan Fulton: according to our timetable here. Thank you very much.
Melanie Roberts: Thank
Amy Wood: Thank
Melanie Roberts: you.
Amy Wood: you. | Susan Fulton opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting. The interface specialist begins her presentation by highlighting important remote functions and showing examples of remote interfaces. The group comments on her presentation, and then Melanie Roberts begins presenting. She talks about the technical electronic components of the remote, explains how a remote works, and shows a few pictures revealing the insides of a normal remote control. She suggests giving the remote a strong shell so it is durable, using a rechargable battery, and not adding a scroll wheel because it requires a sophisticated chip. Judith Anderson presents, talking about user preferences for a small, simple, eye-catching, cute, appealing, and functional remote. Fruit and vegetable shapes are popular this year, so a soft, spongy remote perhaps covered with cloth could make the item marketable. The group discusses the issues surrounding speech recognition, noting that if it is good quality it could be costly. They about the power source and review the objectives of the product. Susan Fulton closes the meeting by telling each member what task she is to complete. | 2 | amisum | test |
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Stacy Pander: So you all read what we are going to do or not?
Katie Hopkins: Mm-hmm.
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Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: We're gonna make a remote control.
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Bertha Bryan: Yes.
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Katie Hopkins: Folder, yes.
Stacy Pander: Folder, okay. So no okay have a look at that one. Okay. So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read. You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboard and um and say why it's your favourite animal. So and you have this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen. So okay, so first have to show you, maybe you can come here to have a look how it works. Yes?
Katie Hopkins: Ah I
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
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Bertha Bryan: Purple.
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Katie Hopkins: It look
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Stacy Pander: Because I like uh okay.
Bertha Bryan: A pink elephant.
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Katie Hopkins: Okay.
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Bertha Bryan: The
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Jutta Towner: Okay.
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Bertha Bryan: water is important.
Katie Hopkins: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal.
Katie Hopkins: It's a fish.
Stacy Pander: Okay,
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Katie Hopkins: Mm-hmm.
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Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
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Jutta Towner: Take it easy.
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Stacy Pander: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have
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Stacy Pander: No, that's okay, thank you.
Bertha Bryan: It's just to get used to it.
Jutta Towner: Okay.
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Katie Hopkins: No.
Stacy Pander: No, not yet,
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: okay.
Bertha Bryan: that's right, it but
Stacy Pander: But
Bertha Bryan: you
Stacy Pander: it's
Bertha Bryan: actually
Stacy Pander: just
Bertha Bryan: got to write on the paper.
Stacy Pander: Sorry?
Bertha Bryan: You really got to write on that
Stacy Pander: Yeah, I
Bertha Bryan: paper.
Stacy Pander: know, but
Katie Hopkins: Yeah yeah,
Stacy Pander: I
Katie Hopkins: it's
Stacy Pander: d I
Katie Hopkins: a real pen.
Stacy Pander: I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: Word, so
Bertha Bryan: but it's
Stacy Pander: that's
Bertha Bryan: just
Stacy Pander: not
Bertha Bryan: a picture.
Stacy Pander: just it's just a picture.
Katie Hopkins: Oh.
Stacy Pander: So
Bertha Bryan: You
Katie Hopkins: Y
Bertha Bryan: really
Katie Hopkins: you can
Stacy Pander: th thought it would be.
Katie Hopkins: you can't edit in the edit it in Word.
Bertha Bryan: No.
Stacy Pander: No.
Katie Hopkins: Oh, okay.
Bertha Bryan: It's a donkey.
Stacy Pander: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure.
Bertha Bryan: Uh I think it was uh
Stacy Pander: Half past.
Katie Hopkins: Half past ten.
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: Okay.
Katie Hopkins: Brilliant.
Stacy Pander: Okay,
Jutta Towner: Nice,
Stacy Pander: perfect.
Jutta Towner: eh?
Katie Hopkins: Yep.
Stacy Pander: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so.
Stacy Pander: Oh this is definitely the best one.
Jutta Towner: Uh.
Stacy Pander: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros.
Jutta Towner: Excuse
Stacy Pander: Okay,
Jutta Towner: Katie Hopkins.
Stacy Pander: that's. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe.
Bertha Bryan: Piece of cake.
Stacy Pander: The production cost are about half the price of selling price, sorry.
Bertha Bryan: Uh easy.
Stacy Pander: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything, so just have a look how it we think about remote controls.
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control?
Stacy Pander: Oh yeah, that's a good question.
Katie Hopkins: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart.
Stacy Pander: I think it's I'm not
Katie Hopkins: So
Stacy Pander: I'm
Katie Hopkins: I
Stacy Pander: not sure, it's not mm
Jutta Towner: Yeah, it probably
Stacy Pander: I think
Jutta Towner: would be universal.
Bertha Bryan: Universal.
Katie Hopkins: Because
Bertha Bryan: And only television? Or more devices?
Stacy Pander: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so not sure, but
Jutta Towner: Hmm, maybe,
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, I know
Jutta Towner: I don't
Katie Hopkins: uh
Jutta Towner: know.
Katie Hopkins: you can buy a re a universal uh control
Stacy Pander: Okay,
Katie Hopkins: for
Stacy Pander: so
Katie Hopkins: uh
Stacy Pander: we we just
Katie Hopkins: only twenty
Stacy Pander: say we
Katie Hopkins: uh
Stacy Pander: just
Katie Hopkins: Euros
Stacy Pander: say that's universal remote
Katie Hopkins: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: control.
Bertha Bryan: Ah
Katie Hopkins: I
Bertha Bryan: okay.
Katie Hopkins: think.
Stacy Pander: Okay, perfect.
Jutta Towner: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and
Stacy Pander: Yeah, everything just
Jutta Towner: okay.
Stacy Pander: so a lot of buttons on the remote control.
Jutta Towner: Yeah, probably.
Bertha Bryan: Not just a T_V_.
Stacy Pander: No, just everything.
Bertha Bryan: Okay.
Katie Hopkins: Okay.
Stacy Pander: so yeah, what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not nothing very special, but um
Bertha Bryan: Well we can try to make it special.
Stacy Pander: yeah, that's right. So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability
Bertha Bryan: Well
Katie Hopkins: Well I
Stacy Pander: or
Katie Hopkins: th
Stacy Pander: user
Katie Hopkins: I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared
Stacy Pander: Hmm yeah.
Katie Hopkins: uh thing must be from very good quality.
Stacy Pander: That's right. Should be a good point.
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Jutta Towner: Okay.
Bertha Bryan: Nothing
Jutta Towner: And how
Bertha Bryan: N
Jutta Towner: big should
Katie Hopkins: No.
Jutta Towner: it be?
Katie Hopkins: Yeah. I dunno um
Bertha Bryan: It shouldn't be too big, but I don't think we can make it too small, 'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so.
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.
Stacy Pander: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: that's it.
Bertha Bryan: Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: it opem.
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer,
Katie Hopkins: Yes
Bertha Bryan: maybe more trendy.
Stacy Pander: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can
Bertha Bryan: Fold
Stacy Pander: fold
Bertha Bryan: open,
Stacy Pander: open.
Bertha Bryan: where
Stacy Pander: Okay,
Bertha Bryan: you can see
Stacy Pander: yeah, that's
Bertha Bryan: uh
Stacy Pander: cool.
Bertha Bryan: more options.
Katie Hopkins: Ah that's
Bertha Bryan: I
Jutta Towner: Yeah
Stacy Pander: Maybe
Bertha Bryan: think
Katie Hopkins: that's
Stacy Pander: for
Jutta Towner: n
Stacy Pander: the D_V_D_ pla player or something,
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: if
Bertha Bryan: something
Stacy Pander: you just
Bertha Bryan: uh
Stacy Pander: okay.
Katie Hopkins: Ah
Jutta Towner: Yeah,
Katie Hopkins: right
Bertha Bryan: on
Jutta Towner: or
Bertha Bryan: top,
Jutta Towner: you c
Bertha Bryan: just dren
Katie Hopkins: right.
Bertha Bryan: general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often.
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: Oh
Jutta Towner: O or
Katie Hopkins: that's good,
Jutta Towner: you could
Katie Hopkins: yeah.
Jutta Towner: th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control.
Bertha Bryan: Yeah b
Katie Hopkins: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: I wanted
Stacy Pander: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control?
Jutta Towner: Uh
Stacy Pander: There are buttons
Jutta Towner: maybe
Stacy Pander: on
Jutta Towner: be
Stacy Pander: it.
Jutta Towner: uh
Bertha Bryan: No
Jutta Towner: it's
Bertha Bryan: you can
Jutta Towner: it's
Bertha Bryan: make an uh manual in it.
Jutta Towner: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.
Stacy Pander: Okay.
Katie Hopkins: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: But it's
Katie Hopkins: but
Stacy Pander: not
Bertha Bryan: But
Jutta Towner: Uh
Stacy Pander: t t
Jutta Towner: like
Stacy Pander: t
Bertha Bryan: that's
Stacy Pander: too expensive
Jutta Towner: a a to
Stacy Pander: to
Jutta Towner: have
Stacy Pander: put a
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: touchscreen
Bertha Bryan: I
Katie Hopkins: Yeah
Bertha Bryan: think
Stacy Pander: on
Jutta Towner: Yeah,
Bertha Bryan: it's
Stacy Pander: it.
Bertha Bryan: much
Katie Hopkins: but
Jutta Towner: maybe it
Bertha Bryan: uh
Jutta Towner: would.
Bertha Bryan: too
Katie Hopkins: it's
Bertha Bryan: expensive.
Katie Hopkins: not reachable I think, touch screen. And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control,
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: it get
Stacy Pander: So.
Katie Hopkins: often uh broken.
Stacy Pander: And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: too
Katie Hopkins: Yeah
Bertha Bryan: too
Stacy Pander: fragile
Bertha Bryan: fragile.
Katie Hopkins: and a
Stacy Pander: uh
Katie Hopkins: lots
Stacy Pander: fragile.
Katie Hopkins: uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh
Stacy Pander: No.
Katie Hopkins: kids uh
Stacy Pander: You can put games
Jutta Towner: Kid-proof.
Stacy Pander: on your remote control. Whatever.
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: Um
Jutta Towner: And uh how about the batteries? Uh should you put it in a recharger or a
Stacy Pander: Oh maybe
Katie Hopkins: Ma
Stacy Pander: that's
Jutta Towner: just
Stacy Pander: a good idea,
Katie Hopkins: maybe
Stacy Pander: just to
Katie Hopkins: a
Stacy Pander: put
Katie Hopkins: home
Stacy Pander: it on
Katie Hopkins: station.
Stacy Pander: your
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: television and just s recharge, you
Jutta Towner: Mm
Stacy Pander: never
Jutta Towner: yeah.
Stacy Pander: have to use any
Bertha Bryan: Maybe
Stacy Pander: batteries.
Bertha Bryan: that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think.
Stacy Pander: Yeah, how
Katie Hopkins: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: m how mu how how expensive
Jutta Towner: Yeah, I dunno.
Stacy Pander: uh is a normal recharger?
Bertha Bryan: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger?
Stacy Pander: I dunno.
Jutta Towner: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone
Katie Hopkins: Ah
Jutta Towner: it's
Katie Hopkins: yeah.
Jutta Towner: probably expensive, but I don't know what the project uh projection
Bertha Bryan: Maybe
Jutta Towner: costs
Bertha Bryan: have
Jutta Towner: are
Bertha Bryan: uh
Jutta Towner: for such
Stacy Pander: Uh
Jutta Towner: a
Stacy Pander: if
Jutta Towner: thing.
Stacy Pander: you th look at the market, it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: it's too expensive.
Bertha Bryan: 'cause
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: well
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is, and now
Stacy Pander: Yeah,
Katie Hopkins: you can put
Stacy Pander: that's
Katie Hopkins: it always
Stacy Pander: right,
Katie Hopkins: at the same
Stacy Pander: yeah.
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: place.
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive.
Bertha Bryan: Maybe uh use it as a separate option.
Katie Hopkins: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: Sell it uh separately.
Katie Hopkins: You can yeah, you can buy it with
Jutta Towner: Yeah,
Katie Hopkins: it.
Jutta Towner: but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh
Bertha Bryan: Rechargeable.
Jutta Towner: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Jutta Towner: just put it in the station, or you can change your batteries,
Katie Hopkins: Oh yeah.
Jutta Towner: so.
Stacy Pander: The option, just the option, that's
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: cool.
Katie Hopkins: Uh I I set something on paper already, size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top,
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: uh it
Bertha Bryan: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: has to lay good in the hand, you you have to uh
Stacy Pander: Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different
Katie Hopkins: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: form
Katie Hopkins: I don't
Stacy Pander: than
Katie Hopkins: I
Stacy Pander: a normal
Katie Hopkins: don't know
Stacy Pander: remote control
Katie Hopkins: I don't
Stacy Pander: or
Bertha Bryan: Well
Katie Hopkins: know if
Bertha Bryan: I think
Katie Hopkins: we
Bertha Bryan: we have to look at that, 'cause well you can do the standard way, but then
Katie Hopkins: You can
Bertha Bryan: you
Katie Hopkins: make
Bertha Bryan: won't
Katie Hopkins: it very special, to create our own
Stacy Pander: Yeah
Katie Hopkins: um looks, but it's very hard to
Jutta Towner: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works.
Katie Hopkins: Nah.
Bertha Bryan: Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block,
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see. But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well.
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: So it
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Bertha Bryan: doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think, so you can do something unique with that.
Jutta Towner: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you can still uh do the
Katie Hopkins: Yeah yeah, what
Jutta Towner: th the
Katie Hopkins: Paul
Jutta Towner: functions.
Katie Hopkins: already said. Uh
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: Yeah, just
Katie Hopkins: on
Stacy Pander: for the
Katie Hopkins: on
Jutta Towner: But
Katie Hopkins: top
Stacy Pander: T_V_
Katie Hopkins: are the
Jutta Towner: n
Stacy Pander: and just
Jutta Towner: yeah,
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: the normal
Jutta Towner: but
Katie Hopkins: the
Stacy Pander: function,
Bertha Bryan: yeah.
Katie Hopkins: basic
Jutta Towner: uh
Stacy Pander: that's
Katie Hopkins: options
Stacy Pander: fine.
Jutta Towner: i
Katie Hopkins: on top, and
Jutta Towner: basically
Katie Hopkins: if you fold it
Jutta Towner: when
Katie Hopkins: open
Jutta Towner: I'm
Stacy Pander: But
Jutta Towner: watching
Stacy Pander: maybe
Jutta Towner: T_V_
Stacy Pander: it's
Jutta Towner: I'm just using like five buttons or so,
Bertha Bryan: Yeah. That's
Jutta Towner: so.
Stacy Pander: maybe it's
Bertha Bryan: what
Stacy Pander: very
Bertha Bryan: I meant.
Stacy Pander: hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called?
Katie Hopkins: Mm. If you if
Bertha Bryan: Uh
Katie Hopkins: if you make
Stacy Pander: Maybe
Katie Hopkins: to fold
Stacy Pander: it's hard
Katie Hopkins: open
Stacy Pander: t
Katie Hopkins: it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a
Stacy Pander: No,
Katie Hopkins: normal
Stacy Pander: that's right. So
Katie Hopkins: uh
Stacy Pander: maybe
Katie Hopkins: remote
Stacy Pander: we have
Katie Hopkins: control.
Stacy Pander: to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control.
Bertha Bryan: Okay, but yeah.
Stacy Pander: Just think
Jutta Towner: Yeah.
Stacy Pander: about it. We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so.
Jutta Towner: Okay.
Stacy Pander: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to what you have to do?
Katie Hopkins: Okay.
Stacy Pander: Yeah.
Katie Hopkins: Um for m for Katie Hopkins uh Katie Hopkins, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the
Bertha Bryan: No, what you want to do with it.
Stacy Pander: Yeah, I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things.
Katie Hopkins: Okay.
Stacy Pander: Also from a user, but
Katie Hopkins: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: all
Katie Hopkins: it's also
Stacy Pander: these things together.
Katie Hopkins: about strength
Stacy Pander: Yeah,
Bertha Bryan: Yeah,
Stacy Pander: everything.
Katie Hopkins: and
Bertha Bryan: I
Katie Hopkins: uh
Bertha Bryan: also wrote down some
Katie Hopkins: for
Bertha Bryan: stuff
Katie Hopkins: everything
Bertha Bryan: that you want
Katie Hopkins: uh.
Stacy Pander: Yeah,
Bertha Bryan: on a
Stacy Pander: no maybe not not uh, that's not a f that's something for for
Bertha Bryan: Technical
Stacy Pander: for yeah.
Bertha Bryan: fun fu
Stacy Pander: That's not for you.
Katie Hopkins: Okay.
Stacy Pander: Just if what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of
Bertha Bryan: What
Stacy Pander: uh buttons
Bertha Bryan: do you want
Stacy Pander: do
Bertha Bryan: to
Stacy Pander: you
Bertha Bryan: do
Stacy Pander: have.
Bertha Bryan: with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control. I
Stacy Pander: Yeah,
Bertha Bryan: already
Stacy Pander: it's alright.
Bertha Bryan: wrote some down, some ideas.
Katie Hopkins: Yep.
Stacy Pander: Yeah, just is that okay?
Katie Hopkins: Okay.
Bertha Bryan: Yep.
Jutta Towner: Okay.
Stacy Pander: Okay.
Bertha Bryan: There's already a document in the folder
Katie Hopkins: Yeah,
Bertha Bryan: about
Katie Hopkins: Katie Hopkins too.
Bertha Bryan: it.
Stacy Pander: So see you in thirty minutes.
Katie Hopkins: Okay, well
Bertha Bryan: Okay.
Katie Hopkins: done.
Jutta Towner: Okay.
Stacy Pander: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so your laptop.
Bertha Bryan: I will.
Katie Hopkins: Oh Paul.
Bertha Bryan: It didn't say that.
Stacy Pander: No, sorry.
Bertha Bryan: Your fault.
Katie Hopkins: Ciao.
Bertha Bryan: Bye bye.
Katie Hopkins: Bye bye. | Stacy Pander introduced himself and the project to the group. He presented an agenda for the rest of the project. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room materials by drawing on the board. Stacy Pander discussed the projected price point, profit aim, and production cost for the project. The group discussed their initial ideas about the product design. They decided to make the remote a universal remote. They discussed the form of the device; it was suggested that the device could have a folding-open design or a touch-screen interface. They discussed energy source options and could not decide between using standard batteries or a recharging stand. They also discussed how to make the remote look more unique; it was suggested that the remote could feature the folding-open design to hide complicated functions on the inside of the device. Stacy Pander instructed Katie Hopkins to prepare the user requirement specification and to research which devices the remote will control. | 2 | amisum | test |
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Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: So
Susan Hicks: Fine.
Tina Forest: Do you know them or
Susan Hicks: The names?
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Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: Jens.
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Tina Forest: Okay.
Susan Hicks: M_. I mean M_. Double M_.
Tina Forest: Okay. And what's your name?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Paul Wiezer. Paul Wiezer.
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Latoya Kirkpatrick: E_ R_.
Tina Forest: Okay. What's your name?
Angela Cain: Uh Martijn.
Tina Forest: Yeah, but your surname.
Angela Cain: What?
Tina Forest: Your surname.
Angela Cain: Uh Abbing. A_ B_ B_ I_ N_ G_.
Tina Forest: Okay, thanks.
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh.
Angela Cain: was a little short on time,
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: but
Tina Forest: Susan Hicks too, so that's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: same here.
Tina Forest: No no no, I just fi first my
Susan Hicks: Oh. Sorry.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh let's see. Which one was
Tina Forest: So
Latoya Kirkpatrick: mine?
Tina Forest: let's have a look, we have forty minutes, so it's it's more than enough. Okay, perfect. So we have Oh no, what's that? So so we have uh forty minutes for this uh for this second meeting, and we have to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Good.
Tina Forest: make uh sure that we going t that we are sure, that we are, that we know what we're going to make uh th what the product is going to like look like. Uh first I have the notes of the last meeting, so I showed uh show them to you. Oh, sorry about that, I just escape this one. How do I escape this?
Angela Cain: What?
Tina Forest: How do I I escape this s uh presentation?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh
Angela Cain: Uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: left.
Tina Forest: Ah okay.
Angela Cain: Just
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: And show, sorry. Okay, so let's have a look s at this one. Okay, so the f the f the points we had last meeting was the um Should be a univ uh universal remote control No, that's I uh s I just got a email from the from the personal coach and it should be a T_V_ remote control only. So have you changed that part?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: Um so yeah, it still has to be uh f a r a remote control for kids and elderly. It's it's still the same. Um All these points uh we have to look at. You all know them. But uh there's another point. The um uh the main uh people of interest of this company are forty plus people. So they're old and not younger people. So we have to look at that as well. 'Specially old people, maybe bi bigger buttons or something, I dunno.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, okay.
Tina Forest: Uh so So yeah, that's it, so just you can do your presentation for uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Which one first?
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: Oh it doesn't matter, just start with the
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Susan Hicks: Mm.
Susan Hicks: Uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Functional requirements, yeah.
Susan Hicks: Okay. Well my name is Jens Damman, but we're in a group, and I I will start it. Wait. Um I've used a marketing report on uh the site. Uh I think you've uh read it too. and uh f and furthermore I uh surfed the o the other site.
Tina Forest: I I didn't read i read it, so it's not
Susan Hicks: You didn't
Tina Forest: for Susan Hicks,
Susan Hicks: read it?
Tina Forest: I didn't get
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No,
Tina Forest: it uh anyway.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I didn
Susan Hicks: Oh okay,
Tina Forest: It's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: don't
Tina Forest: only
Latoya Kirkpatrick: thing
Tina Forest: for you.
Susan Hicks: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: we
Susan Hicks: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: got
Susan Hicks: was
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it.
Susan Hicks: the only one who get it.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yes.
Susan Hicks: Okay it was uh uh uh um um a report about uh an experiment with uh a lot of users. And uh they had a lot of findings in their report uh with statistical uh uh uh thing uh with statistical uh proof. So I um I had three pages with findings and sev a lot of uh a lot of findings. So we can use this uh to uh create our own remote control. Uh seventy five percent of the users find uh most remote controls ugly. Yeah, I think uh uh that's a lot, so we have to make a beautiful remote control. Uh eighty percent of users would spend when uh a remote control will l uh look fancy. I think this fits uh at the uh what what uh Michael said about uh older people. Older people will uh spend more money uh for uh something uh uh what's good. Because younger people are more critical uh about uh uh where they spend their money money at. Uh seventy five percent uh seventy five percent of the users say they zap a lot. Well okay, that's uh normal. I think uh we we have to make uh good zap buttons. But that's one of our requirements.
Tina Forest: The last point is quite an interesting
Susan Hicks: Yes, fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. Um Martijn
Tina Forest: So if
Susan Hicks: alr
Tina Forest: we
Susan Hicks: already said it.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: And uh maybe our uh fold open system is is a good one, but I don't think it's uh
Tina Forest: Yeah, we should have the ten percent
Susan Hicks: reachable.
Tina Forest: on the on the top, then you're you're
Susan Hicks: Yeah, the ten percent on the
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: top, yeah. That that's a good one. Um uh page two. Remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. That's exactly what we said about um maybe a home station for uh for it uh to uh recharge the batteries or something. Uh I thought mo maybe we could make a clap system, so when you clap your hands it will beep or something. Uh you must find it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh.
Susan Hicks: uh quickly.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Maybe just a button on the home station. So remote control beeps when you click that button on the home station.
Susan Hicks: Okay, yeah. Yeah, we can uh combine that. Uh it takes too much time to learn how to use a r new remote control. Uh I think we must t uh take a look at this. It's only uh th thirty four of the thirty four percent. But it's uh a tough one. Because if we make a ha whole new product, our own style, we we c uh this is so difficult, uh a difficulty I think. Uh next, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. Yeah, but only if they zap a lot, and they watch over five hours T_V_ or something. I don't We we haven't Uh we mustn't look too much at uh the last point. Okay, last page. Uh the last uh experiment uh was about gadgets, like uh speech recognition. We didn't uh think about that already. And uh an L_C_D_ on the remote control. We already thought about that. Um uh they finally had a conclusion that younger people um uh under an age of f forty five are uh more interested in new features. And but they're more critical. And older people uh want to spend uh more money. But uh they uh they don't want to uh have a lot of uh new features, because they're in their old uh thinking way. And they want to keep the old uh things the old things.
Tina Forest: So we have uh a new uh age
Susan Hicks: But
Tina Forest: of forty
Susan Hicks: y But you
Tina Forest: plus.
Susan Hicks: but you already said that the uh company was about uh forty plus uh
Tina Forest: People. So
Susan Hicks: clients?
Tina Forest: yeah, so we just can skip the L_C_D_
Susan Hicks: I
Tina Forest: r on the remote
Susan Hicks: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: think
Tina Forest: control,
Susan Hicks: we
Tina Forest: because
Susan Hicks: can speak, uh we can skip speech recognition uh directly, because
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: it's not
Tina Forest: It's
Susan Hicks: reachable
Tina Forest: too
Susan Hicks: for
Tina Forest: Okay.
Susan Hicks: twenty five Euros.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: Um then I have my personal uh preference. Okay, that's not very good, because I thought about television, D_V_D_ player, stereo and V_C_R_. I had a question about. But it's already out of the question, this. Um my point is, well, I If we ma uh make a a remote uh control for only television, I think it's hard to uh sell it for twenty five Euros. But it's the exercise.
Tina Forest: Because it's too expensive.
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: only
Tina Forest: probably.
Susan Hicks: only for television uh On the market you can now buy for twenty Euros a remote control for everything. And we only make it for television, so we mi mm we m must made it make it uh very special.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, but good usability, you can use it.
Susan Hicks: Okay, I told about the home station. Uh it must be simple, because uh our the the elderly people uh needs to use it. And I I found a motto. And we put the fashion in electronics. And that's uh the motto we are uh referenced to uh for our uh our style We. we have to make a a new product. We have to be um Yeah. One of a kind, I think.
Tina Forest: So it has to look uh uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Unique.
Tina Forest: uh unique,
Susan Hicks: The company is
Tina Forest: but
Susan Hicks: about our uh th th their own fashion, their own style.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I reckon
Tina Forest: But old people are not looking for that.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh I think
Tina Forest: Not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: mm
Tina Forest: really.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh
Angela Cain: I think the main thing is the usability, that's where we can uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Angela Cain: make it
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Angela Cain: a special product.
Susan Hicks: to
Tina Forest: Okay.
Susan Hicks: k to keep it simple
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: when
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: you Sorry
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Susan Hicks: I thought
Latoya Kirkpatrick: we
Susan Hicks: about
Latoya Kirkpatrick: also
Susan Hicks: it, yes.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: have to stand out, 'cause there are already, like you said, so many controls out that support lot of stuff. But we have to make sure that we're better usability, and stand out by just looks of it. So make it just a different colour or different shape,
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so
Tina Forest: Okay.
Susan Hicks: Okay, this was uh my presentation.
Tina Forest: Thanks.
Angela Cain: Okay.
Susan Hicks: I don't Yeah.
Tina Forest: So Paul,
Susan Hicks: You can
Tina Forest: you
Susan Hicks: ask
Tina Forest: can
Susan Hicks: some
Tina Forest: do
Susan Hicks: questions
Tina Forest: the next one if you want.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Susan Hicks: or something.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah well Uh.
Tina Forest: It's on the on the uh net net
Latoya Kirkpatrick: There
Tina Forest: uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it is.
Tina Forest: thing, isn't it?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay. Technical functions design. Okay, well, so we have s mm uh broad audience. Isn't that isn't true anymore. But um we have elderly people, so we need to keep it simple. Uh the way I want to keep it simple is to use the sen uh standard. So standardised uh methods like uh on all uh remote controls. Not too full, like uh Jens already said, only ten percent is being used.
Tina Forest: So what do you think of only the numbers and the on-off button or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I have it on the next page. But
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: yes uh basic functions like numbers and that sort of stuff. Um so the options that we put on there should be easy to use, and 'cause you have more room then, and for elderly people big buttons. Uh an icon on it or text on it, so it's very clear what that buttons does. So it doesn't take much time to figure out uh how to use it. Um a way to find out uh what people use is maybe just to use uh questionnaires on the internet or just ask some random people, elderly people what they use, what they want on a remote control
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: to find out. But there is already in a one done. Of functions I could think of. Uh volume, channels, the the basic according to. Just one two three etcetera. Uh text service options. Um basic on-off. And I found an uh Could I think of favourites? I always look up the same um pages on text and always have to click the number.
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But if you could make a new option, that you just have to press one button and you get on your
Angela Cain: Yeah, but then you have to remember what favourite is what channel. So you might as well remember the number. Or not?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No
Tina Forest: Maybe
Latoya Kirkpatrick: y
Tina Forest: i maybe it's too complicated, but not sure.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Tina Forest: It's a good
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it's
Tina Forest: idea,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It
Tina Forest: but
Latoya Kirkpatrick: was just a thought. So I'm, I u I would find it handy, I think, when you just press one button and you get on six six six.
Angela Cain: Yeah, okay. But um can you remember what uh channel uh connects to what
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Angela Cain: favourite
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Angela Cain: button?
Tina Forest: Uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: what I was reading on the page. Uh a remote control just sends commands, basics commands to uh the television. So switch to channel six.
Angela Cain: Yeah?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So uh button six says says six. And if you make favourites, it can say six six six in a row. Just numbers. That
Angela Cain: Yeah
Latoya Kirkpatrick: can
Angela Cain: okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: be
Angela Cain: But
Latoya Kirkpatrick: in
Angela Cain: uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: the
Angela Cain: uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: in the
Angela Cain: for a user to to remember, if I press that button it goes to that channel.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well if you said a favourite
Angela Cain: Yeah, but isn't it hard to remember? Like favourite one and
Tina Forest: Uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Tina Forest: mayb
Latoya Kirkpatrick: i
Angela Cain: Mm
Tina Forest: for Susan Hicks it's
Angela Cain: as
Tina Forest: If
Angela Cain: as
Tina Forest: I
Angela Cain: hard
Tina Forest: use my telephone,
Angela Cain: as
Tina Forest: I never use those buttons to to to call
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Never?
Tina Forest: sh Never.
Angela Cain: No, neither
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Oh.
Angela Cain: do I.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Oh
Tina Forest: So
Latoya Kirkpatrick: are you?
Tina Forest: And
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay now, m maybe not.
Tina Forest: If I don't do it, maybe old people
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No, maybe elderly people uh.
Angela Cain: Yeah, I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Right.
Angela Cain: dunno.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: They don't like new features. So maybe not.
Susan Hicks: Mm-hmm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Um well play, pause. I dunno if that's usable
Tina Forest: It's not, it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: when
Tina Forest: still not It's not anymore n
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Not
Tina Forest: uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: anymore for T_V_. Right, on off. I dunno, miss Did I miss any other buttons, basic buttons?
Susan Hicks: Um
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I couldn't think of any other, 'specially not for T_V_.
Tina Forest: Just on the front as well. No, that's the only th the only thing you need.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Is
Angela Cain: Uh uh the p uh next and previous. Previous I know, but next channel?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Just the
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: channel
Angela Cain: don't thi
Latoya Kirkpatrick: um uh What I mean is
Susan Hicks: Forward.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Angela Cain: Li like a web
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Six
Angela Cain: browser,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: seven
Angela Cain: so
Latoya Kirkpatrick: eight
Angela Cain: Oh, okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: or
Tina Forest: Just
Latoya Kirkpatrick: five.
Angela Cain: But
Tina Forest: very
Angela Cain: uh
Tina Forest: simple.
Angela Cain: um there's also a button to uh go to the channel you've been before. Like a web browser back
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Um
Angela Cain: button.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I dunno.
Tina Forest: Uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I don't have Uh
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Tina Forest: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: did
Tina Forest: know what it is, but I think it's all
Susan Hicks: No.
Tina Forest: too difficult
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I don't
Tina Forest: for old
Latoya Kirkpatrick: think you
Tina Forest: people.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: use
Susan Hicks: Uh
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: that. Y only
Angela Cain: okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: when you want to go to Yeah, just use uh when you wanna switch between channels all the time.
Tina Forest: And
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: how do you want to uh do it, like if you have a channel above ten? Normally you can press one,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: zero
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I think
Tina Forest: or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: um f Especially for older peo elderly people use standard buttons. So you have that uh
Tina Forest: A ten plus or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, the ten plus button. Just uh one one pressing, or quickly after each other.
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: To just keep it simple and standard uh features.
Angela Cain: Yeah, w wouldn't it be a problem to uh Because you h have to be fast enough. Maybe the elderly people
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh yeah mayb
Susan Hicks: It gets some seconds.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But I think that's in the T_V_ as well. That's how the uh the T_V_ T_V_ handles it. But you can have a button that says um two
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Angela Cain: Oh
Susan Hicks: it's
Angela Cain: okay.
Susan Hicks: it's no
Latoya Kirkpatrick: two st
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: two
Susan Hicks: not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: stripes.
Susan Hicks: a
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So you have uh like a
Angela Cain: Yeah, but
Latoya Kirkpatrick: five
Angela Cain: that's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: seconds
Angela Cain: th mm
Latoya Kirkpatrick: period to press those two buttons.
Susan Hicks: It's what Paul says. It's not a remote control uh uh that um uh makes the T_V_ um do one two. It's the T_V_ who depends that it must
Angela Cain: Okay.
Susan Hicks: be two seconds or three seconds or one second that you must uh type one
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So if
Susan Hicks: or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: you
Susan Hicks: two.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: have a
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: universal T_V_ controller, you needed one button that has two uh stripes.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So we have a a period of, I dunno, five seconds to press those buttons, and that
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: And not for elderly people to look, one two uh press and aim and
Tina Forest: But do we still need a two level remote control? Because if we only have
Susan Hicks: It's
Tina Forest: that
Susan Hicks: only
Tina Forest: l
Susan Hicks: for television now.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So
Tina Forest: only
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I I
Tina Forest: f
Latoya Kirkpatrick: don't think so.
Tina Forest: No.
Susan Hicks: No.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh I just thought of another one. Most things in modern T_V_s are also on the menu.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So you also need a menu button. And then uh navigation uh But we can
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: integrate that with volume and previous and next, so you have
Angela Cain: I I think you ha
Latoya Kirkpatrick: four
Angela Cain: really
Latoya Kirkpatrick: arrows.
Angela Cain: have to divide between functions you often use, like um uh m maybe uh switch channels and uh volume and k that kind of things, and uh the menu button. Because you n almost never use menu button.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Angela Cain: So
Latoya Kirkpatrick: okay, but um
Tina Forest: Maybe it's still still a good idea, I'm not sure. You'll also have to use a mute button to to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: mute button. Yes.
Tina Forest: Maybe,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Don't think
Tina Forest: not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so.
Tina Forest: I don't know where where you have to put it.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah well, that's that's I think that's the layers that produce. Now I have to figure out what's uh what to put on.
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: What we're
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: gonna use.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Okay.
Tina Forest: That's right.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: And later we can d uh do the design. Okay, uh now my personal preferences. Uh using the standards, basic Um I think that we should stand out uh unique, being unique with the design. So we have to, I dunno, uh make a different shape than usual. So when you are in the shop and you see our T_V_ controller hanging, that it stands out. Not just in in the row when you see all the same uh remote controls.
Tina Forest: Yeah. Does
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Um
Tina Forest: it have to be Uh it has to be uh with different colours or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I dunno. Different colours um
Susan Hicks: Maybe we can give it out in different colours. You can choose blue
Tina Forest: It's like
Susan Hicks: or
Tina Forest: a
Susan Hicks: yellow
Tina Forest: iMac
Susan Hicks: or
Tina Forest: or something. Just to
Angela Cain: Mm-hmm.
Tina Forest: make it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah. Well why not? Or
Susan Hicks: That's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: fa That's fancy. That's uh fashion.
Tina Forest: But it looks cheap as well, because it's a small thing. It's only twenty five Euros. It looks very cheap if you make it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well, maybe you can look at uh mobile phones.
Tina Forest: Oh, you just I dunno
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Oh.
Tina Forest: what happened.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Who?
Tina Forest: Yeah, we have to look at mobile phones, that's right.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: They
Tina Forest: Just
Latoya Kirkpatrick: they're uh designed very well. And
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: well basically are the same, just a bit smaller. You think you can't make a T_V_ controller too small, 'cause then you will always lo always lose it.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But uh well, I think that's a good example.
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: Okay, we hurry up a bit, because otherwise
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay,
Tina Forest: we won't make
Latoya Kirkpatrick: sorry.
Tina Forest: it. Is
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Tina Forest: it fin Are you finished?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I I'm finished. I think we discussed everything.
Angela Cain: Okay. Well, the working design. The method I used is uh search the web. Just the web page provided. Um Basically I'm I'm not very technical uh uh educated, but uh I could figure it out. Um basically what happens is you press a button, uh then a circuit gets closed by pressing the button, uh like a switch. And by closing that certain circuit, the chip knows uh what bu button is pressed. So like you press a one, that circuit is closed and uh Then the chip produces a pattern. Like a Morse code to uh And and sends that to the uh L_E_D_. That's the uh light emitting diode, I think. Um and the light emitting diode is uh producing infrared light. That's un uh invisible to the human eye. And uh transmit that uh to the T_V_. However it has also an uh a visible uh diode that's uh blinking red if you look in it.
Susan Hicks: Mm-hmm.
Angela Cain: And that's uh another diode, I believe. Because infrared is not visible. So that's er uh do two different
Tina Forest: So
Angela Cain: things but
Tina Forest: also have to have a LED li
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: LED
Angela Cain: I I think
Tina Forest: light
Angela Cain: so.
Tina Forest: on it?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh j
Angela Cain: I I'm not sure if
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Is
Angela Cain: it's the
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: same
Tina Forest: it's
Angela Cain: thing.
Tina Forest: I think
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Ain't
Tina Forest: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it
Tina Forest: usable.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: just to to indicate that it's
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: transmitting?
Susan Hicks: that's active.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So
Tina Forest: Or just a green one, because it's If you use it, it's green or the red, it's r green.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah. Maybe uh
Susan Hicks: I I think it's in the case that it's active. It's not uh
Angela Cain: Yeah, when
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: you
Tina Forest: that's
Angela Cain: press
Tina Forest: right. But
Angela Cain: it.
Tina Forest: if you
Angela Cain: So
Susan Hicks: I it's it's just uh the the
Angela Cain: Two?
Tina Forest: Red's l shows up like something's wrong, and green is like it's okay, you press
Susan Hicks: Mm.
Tina Forest: the button.
Angela Cain: Yeah, I dunno.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Maybe
Angela Cain: Ma on
Latoya Kirkpatrick: depends
Angela Cain: on most
Latoya Kirkpatrick: on uh
Angela Cain: on most uh uh remote controls it's red.
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: So
Tina Forest: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yes.
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Tina Forest: know. Okay, we make it red.
Angela Cain: So
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But maybe
Angela Cain: I know.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well we don't have to make it red. Maybe integrate it in the design as well.
Tina Forest: You have to The whole the whole uh remote control becomes uh green if you press the buttons. Uh that's cool.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh Oh, maybe it's it is would an
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: e
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No.
Angela Cain: think uh the batteries will
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Just
Angela Cain: be
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Angela Cain: uh a
Tina Forest: No, we have
Angela Cain: little
Tina Forest: a recharger
Susan Hicks: Empty.
Tina Forest: in it,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Oh.
Tina Forest: so
Angela Cain: Yeah, okay. Uh
Tina Forest: If
Angela Cain: maybe.
Tina Forest: we can still make that then
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, but it doesn't have to be red. It's just to indicate something's
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: on.
Angela Cain: Yeah. That it's working. That it's not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Angela Cain: not the
Tina Forest: But
Angela Cain: batteries
Tina Forest: it's cool
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It's
Angela Cain: are
Tina Forest: if
Angela Cain: low.
Tina Forest: it was
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it's
Tina Forest: green.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: not very important,
Tina Forest: Green or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so
Tina Forest: red or whatever, it
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Tina Forest: is cool.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: yeah.
Angela Cain: I know. Just to indicate it's working.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So mm
Angela Cain: And uh the receptor in the T_V_ senses the pattern. So we have to understand what patterns are used to, you know, to make it universal. So that it can be used with all the T_V_s. We have to really understand what patterns are used, so we can uh o On the Otherwise it won't work.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So we have to uh make buttons for that as well, to make
Angela Cain: No.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Angela Cain: I uh The chip um uh is producing the pattern. So we have to make a chip that produces patterns to,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Angela Cain: y you know, to
Susan Hicks: An automatically
Angela Cain: Yeah. That are
Susan Hicks: search
Angela Cain: working.
Susan Hicks: function for each television, or
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: something.
Angela Cain: or I dunno how it's uh exactly how it works. It wasn't explained there.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well,
Susan Hicks: Uh I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Susan Hicks: kno
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I use a universal uh remote control, and list of all the T_V_s you have, etcetera. And you have to put in a number,
Angela Cain: Yeah?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so it works on your T_V_.
Angela Cain: Okay.
Susan Hicks: Oh, I have a modern one. And the modern one you you uh you type uh search, and the LED began to blink blink blink. And uh uh uh after uh a short time the television turns off. And then you know, oh it it's the right one. And you can stop it, and then it's okay.
Angela Cain: Ah okay.
Susan Hicks: So you don't have to search for your television or your code.
Angela Cain: Okay.
Susan Hicks: It uh search uh the pattern for itself.
Angela Cain: Okay,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay,
Angela Cain: yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so we use that.
Angela Cain: So it uh We have to make a a s a bit more intelligent chip than the standard one.
Susan Hicks: Yes.
Angela Cain: Because
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yep.
Angela Cain: you have to Yeah.
Tina Forest: I just say Can you s just say it again, because I was just looking
Angela Cain: Uh
Tina Forest: There's
Angela Cain: okay.
Tina Forest: just a short
Angela Cain: Well uh y you have this chip.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: That's uh when the circuit is closed,
Tina Forest: Mm-hmm.
Angela Cain: it produces the pattern. But uh ma basically for uh brands of T_V_ these patterns are different. So like when you press a one on one T_V_ it go go to one. And on the other T_V_ it won't work, basically. So uh basically what you have to do is uh get these patterns right.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: And uh by d uh that can be done by uh just uh
Susan Hicks: Changing the
Angela Cain: cha
Susan Hicks: signal.
Angela Cain: yeah, changing this pattern all the time. And um What he's doing when he's configuring this pattern, this chip, uh is trying to switch off the television. And when it's uh switched off, you can push a button as uh it's working now, so And then he saves that setting
Tina Forest: Okay.
Angela Cain: and
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: then um it's working.
Susan Hicks: Yeah, that's the right uh
Angela Cain: Okay.
Susan Hicks: option.
Angela Cain: Well uh the components. Yeah, that's a bit technical, and I hadn't I w I was a little short on time. Um but I think I understand it Um. the energy source is uh the battery, basically.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Um that's connecting to all the components. Because it has to be fed with energy. Okay. Uh the subcomponent is uh w I I think it is uh the button pressed. So basically when you press a button, a switch get closed. Um that's connecting to a chip. So the chip knows what button you pressed. And the chip sends out uh the pattern to the infrared bulb. I didn didn't put the description by this one. Th this is a normal bulb. So the normal flashing light.
Tina Forest: Okay. So that's the LED,
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: L_E_D_.
Angela Cain: Yeah, and this is a LED too. But this one is producing infrared light
Tina Forest: Yeah, okay.
Angela Cain: that's invisible. And this one is producing normal light.
Tina Forest: So we can make the normal one also a normal light. Not a LED light, but as a normal one.
Angela Cain: Yeah
Tina Forest: To flash up your
Susan Hicks: Uh if you if you use the buttons, uh both of them works. But one you can't see and one indicates that you use a button.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Yeah, presu Yeah yeah yeah. Because uh when you button press a button and it doesn't work, it can Basically if the battery is low, it
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Angela Cain: won't work.
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Angela Cain: So
Susan Hicks: and
Angela Cain: you have to indicate that it's
Tina Forest: Maybe you have to uh put uh a small light around the button you push. So you see green if you push that button.
Angela Cain: Huh,
Susan Hicks: Mm I
Angela Cain: that's
Susan Hicks: think
Angela Cain: a good
Susan Hicks: it's
Angela Cain: idea.
Susan Hicks: unnecessary power uh you use then.
Tina Forest: Yeah, but if you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No,
Tina Forest: u if
Latoya Kirkpatrick: y
Tina Forest: you do that, you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Tina Forest: know that you're uh sending a signal.
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: And it's you
Susan Hicks: But
Tina Forest: also
Susan Hicks: then have
Tina Forest: know
Susan Hicks: to be
Tina Forest: which
Susan Hicks: on
Tina Forest: button
Susan Hicks: the
Tina Forest: you
Susan Hicks: in
Tina Forest: p
Susan Hicks: the all uh remote control have to be LEDs.
Tina Forest: Yeah, that's right. But
Susan Hicks: Everywhere
Tina Forest: it
Susan Hicks: in the r
Tina Forest: But does it make any difference for the energy you use? You got
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No
Tina Forest: still
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I don't
Tina Forest: one
Latoya Kirkpatrick: think
Tina Forest: LED.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so, but Yeah, i it it will look different, and I think we need to find something else.
Tina Forest: That looks different, yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: 'Cause otherwise we will just make another standard, and our uh motto also is
Susan Hicks: Is LEDs uh beneath the the buttons?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, w around the buttons, or in the buttons even.
Susan Hicks: Yeah, okay.
Angela Cain: Yeah, but mm like when you push it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, then then
Angela Cain: n
Latoya Kirkpatrick: won't
Angela Cain: n
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Then you
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: won't see it.
Angela Cain: You have your finger over the button. So you can see
Susan Hicks: It must be around it then.
Angela Cain: Yeah. Or or m maybe on top of the A green
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Angela Cain: light
Susan Hicks: then
Angela Cain: is flashing
Susan Hicks: Yeah. Not
Angela Cain: or
Susan Hicks: not not not here, but
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: here.
Angela Cain: There. Yeah.
Susan Hicks: Maybe uh
Tina Forest: The same as a telephone, or a mobile phone, or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: what
Latoya Kirkpatrick: we're
Tina Forest: do
Latoya Kirkpatrick: thinking
Tina Forest: you mean?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: about it. Uh on
Tina Forest: If you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: a mobile
Tina Forest: push
Latoya Kirkpatrick: phone, in the dark uh
Tina Forest: It lights up. Everything lights up.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: everything
Tina Forest: That's a good
Latoya Kirkpatrick: lights
Tina Forest: idea.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: up.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Why ain't that on a remote
Tina Forest: It
Latoya Kirkpatrick: control?
Tina Forest: it only takes a l a little energy
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: and it's not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: if
Tina Forest: that
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Tina Forest: much.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: a mobile
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: phone a phone can do it, it's
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: It's f Yeah. Maybe that's a good idea for old people as well.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, i
Angela Cain: Mm-hmm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: if you're in the dark, you can't see the remote.
Tina Forest: It's only
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: few LEDs. Only four or something. Four LED.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No, I dunno. But if we use a battery station, which I think we will use
Susan Hicks: Yeah, I uh
Tina Forest: Yeah, that's a good idea,
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: okay.
Angela Cain: We'll have enough power to
Tina Forest: Everything agre Everyone agrees with that, or
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yep.
Susan Hicks: Maybe what Paul said, uh under the on
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: the
Tina Forest: and then
Susan Hicks: on
Tina Forest: you
Susan Hicks: the home station, uh a button to uh to call your uh remote control, that
Tina Forest: Okay,
Susan Hicks: it beeps.
Tina Forest: yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: And also
Tina Forest: But you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it's
Tina Forest: have to make a sound device in it then.
Susan Hicks: Yeah, there must be sound in it.
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Tina Forest: But Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay,
Susan Hicks: I dunno.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it shouldn't take
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: much
Angela Cain: B maybe it's that that's a little too hard to make. Especially for that kind of money. Because
Susan Hicks: Mm
Angela Cain: it's
Susan Hicks: uh,
Angela Cain: i
Susan Hicks: twenty
Angela Cain: it
Susan Hicks: five
Angela Cain: has
Susan Hicks: Euros,
Angela Cain: to be
Susan Hicks: I think we can
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh
Susan Hicks: make
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Angela Cain: Production
Latoya Kirkpatrick: th
Susan Hicks: it.
Angela Cain: cost
Susan Hicks: Bec
Angela Cain: is uh t uh twelve and a half.
Susan Hicks: Twelve and a half, okay. But but we only have to make it for television, and
Angela Cain: Yeah, okay.
Susan Hicks: um
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I think
Susan Hicks: we must have something
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Susan Hicks: special.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: you also
Susan Hicks: So
Latoya Kirkpatrick: have uh remote controls with a lot of options. But we lose about ninety percent of those options. So
Susan Hicks: Uh.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I think you can uh
Susan Hicks: We have to give our customers some extras.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Angela Cain: okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: think we will save money with that.
Tina Forest: Okay. Are you almost finished or just
Angela Cain: Yeah, the the personal preference, I didn't fill it out. Because
Tina Forest: Okay.
Angela Cain: I was short on time.
Tina Forest: Okay. No worry.
Angela Cain: But um Basically what we could do too is uh have a Bluetooth uh integration.
Tina Forest: Yeah, I just want to talk some about some more. So maybe you
Angela Cain: Yeah?
Tina Forest: have to Yeah?
Angela Cain: Okay.
Tina Forest: Okay.
Tina Forest: So this Oh, sorry. Wh what's that? So uh Oh, sorry. We have some new uh project requirements. We have to have a look what they are. They're still in um Uh teletext has become outdated since the popularity of internet. So a teletext option, maybe we have to skip that one. I'm not sure. I don't
Angela Cain: No,
Tina Forest: think
Susan Hicks: No.
Tina Forest: so,
Angela Cain: and I
Tina Forest: but
Angela Cain: I think a lot of people use
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: uh teletext,
Tina Forest: and it's it's on your
Angela Cain: still
Tina Forest: comp it's on
Angela Cain: use.
Tina Forest: your television. It's only one button. So I
Susan Hicks: Uh.
Tina Forest: don't think
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Tina Forest: it is
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Tina Forest: We definitely should use it. Um Yeah, that's uh what I told you. The remote control should only be used for a television. So that's maybe easier. And um the the forty plus people, I already told you. Oh no, sorry. Oh, this is a problem. Oh sorry about that. The new product should reach a new market with customers are the younger than forty. So it should be flashy or just
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Angela Cain: Oh.
Tina Forest: more interesting.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay,
Angela Cain: Mm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: that's It changes
Tina Forest: I'm sorry about
Latoya Kirkpatrick: things.
Tina Forest: that. I just I just didn't read it well. So does it make some
Susan Hicks: Changes.
Tina Forest: decision about that?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Um
Angela Cain: Yeah. That kinda changes
Susan Hicks: Uh
Angela Cain: the whole situation.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well yeah, then we have to make some nice features. I think uh the thing in the dark is a good way, to make it more
Tina Forest: That still
Latoya Kirkpatrick: like
Tina Forest: stays.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: a mobile phone.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: More modern.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: That's important I think and
Susan Hicks: L_C_D_ doesn't work for uh twelve and a half Euros I think.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: And I d I don't don't think it's very usable in a remote control, especially when you only have T_V_ functions on
Susan Hicks: Oh.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Mm
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So
Angela Cain: ah I I don't y you'll use it often, because you can see on the television
Susan Hicks: Oh,
Angela Cain: wh what
Susan Hicks: I'm
Angela Cain: channel
Susan Hicks: watching
Angela Cain: you
Susan Hicks: uh the channel one. Okay. No,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Susan Hicks: not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: tho I think that's not usable.
Angela Cain: No.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So, but uh Yeah. What other features can we put in?
Angela Cain: Yeah. I think you you have to make it a bit flashy and and popular. And uh then the usability is not that required, because the Like in the mobile phones, usability is not that
Susan Hicks: But
Angela Cain: good I
Susan Hicks: uh
Angela Cain: think.
Susan Hicks: some of you had uh something to read about um uh speech uh recognition. About you said one and the television turns on one. Is that reachable maybe? That's very
Angela Cain: I didn't
Susan Hicks: That's
Angela Cain: read
Susan Hicks: fancy. That's cool.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It's
Angela Cain: I
Latoya Kirkpatrick: very
Susan Hicks: Twelve
Angela Cain: didn't
Latoya Kirkpatrick: fashion.
Angela Cain: read
Susan Hicks: and
Angela Cain: any b
Susan Hicks: you've
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: got twelve.
Angela Cain: Yeah okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Mm.
Susan Hicks: Only
Angela Cain: I
Susan Hicks: the
Angela Cain: I
Susan Hicks: numbers,
Angela Cain: know.
Susan Hicks: only numbers. Uh furthermore nothing. But only the numbers, one to twenty or something.
Angela Cain: Mm.
Susan Hicks: That should be cool.
Tina Forest: Yeah, maybe we have to integrate that as well. If it's possible.
Susan Hicks: If it's
Tina Forest: But
Susan Hicks: possible, I dunno.
Angela Cain: Yeah, I
Susan Hicks: I
Angela Cain: don't
Susan Hicks: didn't
Angela Cain: know.
Tina Forest: I don't
Susan Hicks: read
Tina Forest: think
Susan Hicks: it.
Tina Forest: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Mm.
Tina Forest: very expensive actually. Why should it?
Susan Hicks: Uh if
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: i
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I think
Tina Forest: You
Susan Hicks: if
Tina Forest: only
Susan Hicks: i
Tina Forest: have a
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it's
Tina Forest: microphone in it.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: I didn't have
Angela Cain: But
Susan Hicks: information
Angela Cain: it has
Susan Hicks: about
Angela Cain: to
Susan Hicks: that.
Angela Cain: work. And and and does it have to work only in English, or in Dutch too
Tina Forest: Nah,
Angela Cain: or
Tina Forest: maybe
Susan Hicks: Ah that's a problem, but
Angela Cain: And and
Susan Hicks: Uh only
Angela Cain: uh
Susan Hicks: in
Angela Cain: w
Susan Hicks: English.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: What
Susan Hicks: Only
Latoya Kirkpatrick: But
Susan Hicks: in English
Angela Cain: Yeah?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Susan Hicks: I think.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I dunno how that works then. Uh does your
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Angela Cain: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Does
Angela Cain: probably
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it lie
Angela Cain: my
Latoya Kirkpatrick: in the
Angela Cain: job
Latoya Kirkpatrick: centre
Angela Cain: to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: of
Angela Cain: figure
Latoya Kirkpatrick: the room
Angela Cain: that out,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: and
Angela Cain: but
Latoya Kirkpatrick: can you scream from wherever
Susan Hicks: No,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh one
Susan Hicks: that
Latoya Kirkpatrick: to have in channel
Susan Hicks: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: one?
Susan Hicks: then th we have to think about that. But do do we do it? It's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: more
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I dunno.
Susan Hicks: if we
Latoya Kirkpatrick: So,
Susan Hicks: if we do it.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: is it very usable? That's what I'm looking at.
Angela Cain: And and do you have to speak in in like in
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Angela Cain: a thing or
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Is
Tina Forest: Maybe maybe it's too hard to uh to realise that. It We have short
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Tina Forest: time
Angela Cain: I dunno.
Tina Forest: to to put it on the market, so that
Susan Hicks: Okay.
Tina Forest: We
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Mm
Tina Forest: have to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah
Tina Forest: do a
Latoya Kirkpatrick: well
Tina Forest: lot of testing before we can do that.
Angela Cain: Yeah, I think so.
Tina Forest: We
Susan Hicks: Yeah, and
Tina Forest: make
Susan Hicks: uh and
Tina Forest: uh make
Susan Hicks: uh
Tina Forest: uh, we can make
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It's
Tina Forest: th th the new remote control very flashy.
Susan Hicks: In uh indeed uh the languages are a difficult thing. Uh because
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: d
Susan Hicks: we we
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: have
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I don't
Susan Hicks: a lot
Latoya Kirkpatrick: think
Susan Hicks: of
Angela Cain: And
Susan Hicks: languages.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: it's
Angela Cain: and
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh useful enough to take the effort to design something with uh speech recognition.
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: and also
Tina Forest: I think
Angela Cain: if
Tina Forest: so.
Angela Cain: if you have a good speech uh speech recognition, you can just throw
Susan Hicks: Yeah.
Angela Cain: the uh
Susan Hicks: A uh someone says that
Angela Cain: the remote
Susan Hicks: uh
Angela Cain: away.
Susan Hicks: give Susan Hicks one Coke, and the
Angela Cain: Mm.
Susan Hicks: T_V_ turns
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Susan Hicks: uh to one.
Angela Cain: Mm.
Susan Hicks: Yeah, it's not
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: uh
Angela Cain: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Angela Cain: okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: yeah, that's the right command. And
Angela Cain: But
Latoya Kirkpatrick: then you have to say uh T_V_ channel one, or something.
Angela Cain: Hmm
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Not
Angela Cain: yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: just one, but
Angela Cain: T_V_
Susan Hicks: Okay, but
Angela Cain: one.
Susan Hicks: th that becomes your f Uh uh because that's very hard for uh speech recognition.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Well
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I dunno. But I don't think, it just ain't useful enough.
Susan Hicks: Mm-hmm.
Tina Forest: So we have to make some decisions. So you
Susan Hicks: Okay,
Tina Forest: can see
Susan Hicks: no speech
Tina Forest: on the
Susan Hicks: recognition.
Tina Forest: uh So we have to know what we're going to put on. Do we, do we make uh a light under the under the n under the numbers and everything? Do
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, I think
Tina Forest: If
Latoya Kirkpatrick: so.
Tina Forest: you press something, it lights up for a few seconds, so you can see what other but buttons there are, okay?
Angela Cain: Yeah, that's good.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yep.
Tina Forest: Okay, we just take that one. And what else, we have
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Also the one in the dark. So uh It lights up when it's dark?
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I
Tina Forest: but
Latoya Kirkpatrick: didn't
Tina Forest: it's Oh th I thought would, that that would be the same. If you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Tina Forest: push something,
Susan Hicks: Yeah. Yeah
Tina Forest: it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: it
Susan Hicks: yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: but
Tina Forest: all
Susan Hicks: it
Tina Forest: lights
Latoya Kirkpatrick: um
Tina Forest: up.
Susan Hicks: it mustn't work all the time.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yes,
Susan Hicks: It uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: that's
Susan Hicks: uh it
Latoya Kirkpatrick: what
Susan Hicks: have
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I mean.
Susan Hicks: to work only when you use it. So
Tina Forest: Or
Susan Hicks: if
Tina Forest: you can
Susan Hicks: you
Tina Forest: switch it on or something.
Susan Hicks: No,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Or
Susan Hicks: if
Latoya Kirkpatrick: maybe
Susan Hicks: you use
Latoya Kirkpatrick: when you
Susan Hicks: one button,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: yeah.
Susan Hicks: it must turn uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It
Susan Hicks: on
Latoya Kirkpatrick: lights
Susan Hicks: for
Latoya Kirkpatrick: up all.
Susan Hicks: twenty seconds,
Tina Forest: Yeah, that's
Susan Hicks: and
Tina Forest: right.
Susan Hicks: then
Tina Forest: You
Susan Hicks: it
Tina Forest: have
Susan Hicks: must
Tina Forest: to
Susan Hicks: turn off.
Tina Forest: Yeah, that's right. That's what
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay
Tina Forest: I said. It's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: yeah.
Tina Forest: the
Latoya Kirkpatrick: D
Tina Forest: same as the telephone.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah, alright.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Tina Forest: And do we use a a Uh what's it called? Like a iMac, if you can look through it. Or just a normal
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Maybe
Angela Cain: Mm,
Tina Forest: remote control.
Angela Cain: maybe
Latoya Kirkpatrick: just as an
Angela Cain: it's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: option,
Angela Cain: a good idea.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: w like we discussed, like iPod. Different colours, uh maybe use even different fonts.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: Oh yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Like uh phones.
Tina Forest: Different colours. Okay, so
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Tina Forest: y
Susan Hicks: A see-through.
Tina Forest: you just make it th through
Susan Hicks: Mm,
Tina Forest: You look
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: that's
Tina Forest: through
Susan Hicks: cool.
Tina Forest: it?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: as an option maybe.
Tina Forest: And so the buttons we have, this is, yeah, this is normal. We put in
Latoya Kirkpatrick: It's the
Tina Forest: the
Latoya Kirkpatrick: standard
Tina Forest: the simple buttons on the top, and probably
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: the the
Latoya Kirkpatrick: uh
Tina Forest: the more complicated buttons
Susan Hicks: But you have
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Susan Hicks: You
Tina Forest: down
Latoya Kirkpatrick: we
Susan Hicks: had
Latoya Kirkpatrick: but
Susan Hicks: a lot
Latoya Kirkpatrick: we
Susan Hicks: of
Latoya Kirkpatrick: don't
Tina Forest: there.
Susan Hicks: different buttons.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: We don't really
Angela Cain: Hmm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: have any
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Latoya Kirkpatrick: complicated
Tina Forest: maybe you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: buttons.
Tina Forest: have you have to Uh when you use teletec teletext, you can press a green or a red button
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah
Tina Forest: to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: okay,
Tina Forest: go to
Latoya Kirkpatrick: but
Tina Forest: the next one, or to go
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah,
Tina Forest: to the previous
Latoya Kirkpatrick: well
Tina Forest: one.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: w I think the buttons are very easy. With just uh standard buttons we just have so
Tina Forest: O but maybe you
Latoya Kirkpatrick: little
Tina Forest: can put um the g the options of teletext on the second level of the remote control.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: No, I don't
Tina Forest: Because
Latoya Kirkpatrick: need
Tina Forest: you ne
Latoya Kirkpatrick: don't
Tina Forest: almost
Latoya Kirkpatrick: need
Tina Forest: never use it.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Uh teletext options are only four buttons or something.
Angela Cain: Yeah, but younger people I think um more often use the internet and elderly people often use teletext.
Tina Forest: Yeah,
Angela Cain: So
Tina Forest: that's
Latoya Kirkpatrick: I use
Susan Hicks: No,
Tina Forest: right.
Angela Cain: uh
Latoya Kirkpatrick: teletext
Susan Hicks: I use
Latoya Kirkpatrick: as well.
Susan Hicks: te teletext every day, I think.
Angela Cain: Hmm. Okay.
Tina Forest: Yeah. For Susan Hicks too, it is. So we just keep it one level then?
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Yeah yeah, one
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: level.
Susan Hicks: Mm.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: And I think, uh 'cause um we don't have that many buttons, I think the design is most important.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: You can d uh integrate the buttons in the design very much.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: 'Cause simple buttons. If you
Tina Forest: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: put one above it, it's clear.
Tina Forest: Okay. So that's it for toda for We're going to have a lunch lunch break. Um
Latoya Kirkpatrick: How long is lunch break?
Tina Forest: So yeah, you know what you have to do. This is uh this is it. You get your meal and everything, so
Susan Hicks: Trendwatching. Okay.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: That's fine.
Susan Hicks: Yo.
Tina Forest: So, we're finished for t for this time. We're going to have some lunch.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Okay.
Latoya Kirkpatrick: Bye.
Tina Forest: Yeah.
Angela Cain: Yeah.
Susan Hicks: Mm. Uh. | Tina Forest announced that the remote should only control television, and that the marketing should be targeted towards ages 40 and above. Susan Hicks presented the results of a lab study on users of remote controls, and showed that users want a fancier, less complicated remote that does not get lost easily. The group decided not to use speech recognition or an LCD screen to target the older demographic. Latoya Kirkpatrick discussed the button functions and how to make channel-changing easier. The group decided not to include programmable "favorites" buttons. Angela Cain presented the internal components of the device. The group discussed having the remote light up when used. He also stressed that the remote must be compatible with all television brands. Tina Forest corrected his target group announcement and announced that the target age group was actually ages 40 and below. The group again discussed the possibility of adding speech recognition and LCD screens to the design but decided that it was not feasible. The group decided to have the remote light up when used and is including teletext. Susan Hicks was instructed to report on trendwatching. | 2 | amisum | test |
Angela Wright: Good.
Melinda Dyson: Beep. Oh.
Darlene Dwight: What?
Angela Wright: So uh welcome everyone.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Um as you may have noticed I uh created separate folders because it was uh
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: tending to get a little busy in our uh shared project documents uh folder. I don't know if everybody uh put their own uh documents in the right folder, which is for now the detailed design meeting.
Kristy Chavez: That's new one?
Darlene Dwight: We
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: didn't make any uh
Melinda Dyson: Uh, we should save that
Darlene Dwight: Oh in
Angela Wright: Then I'll move
Melinda Dyson: one.
Angela Wright: this
Darlene Dwight: Didn't
Angela Wright: one.
Darlene Dwight: we just do that?
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, save in the folder.
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Melinda Dyson: Save as project.
Angela Wright: Oh no, this is just one big document, so you can leave that wherever it is.
Melinda Dyson: Oh, okay. Hmm hmm.
Angela Wright: And evaluation left. Okay.
Melinda Dyson: Agenda.
Angela Wright: Well not main documents this time.
Darlene Dwight: Hmm?
Angela Wright: Oh uh yes. I have it open myself I guess. Um well the detailed design meeting Huh? We're finally getting somewhere hopefully. Um what are we going to do? I've opened it already. Um I'm still going to take some minutes,
Melinda Dyson: Oh, sorry.
Angela Wright: and if I'm right, you two are going to give a prototype presentation?
Darlene Dwight: We could.
Angela Wright: Aren't you? Yes, you are. And uh m did you do something with evaluation criteria?
Kristy Chavez: Yep. Yep.
Angela Wright: Good. And we have a correct agenda. And uh then we have to look at something which is less nice, the finance uh aspect, whether we can afford what we have designed, and
Darlene Dwight: Oops.
Angela Wright: if we can we can uh commence the final part which is the production or project evaluation, how did we work together and what are the results, and how happy are we with those. Okay, well finance uh will be later. Now I'd like to give the word to you two.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Okay. Get up stand up.
Darlene Dwight: Well
Melinda Dyson: just
Darlene Dwight: uh we
Melinda Dyson: 'Kay.
Darlene Dwight: made a prototype. We first start with the overall uh This
Melinda Dyson: View.
Darlene Dwight: is about the total remote control. We made it
Melinda Dyson: Just example colour, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: uh there's one the colours we would to uh see
Darlene Dwight: It's a fresh
Melinda Dyson: our.
Darlene Dwight: colour. And uh the screen light blue. Oh uh this the scroll button and the microphone on the on the sides here under. And the R_ and R_ logo, it just says R_ and R_ now, but uh
Melinda Dyson: Okay?
Darlene Dwight: Any questions so far?
Kristy Chavez: Big microphone.
Melinda Dyson: yeah, just
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: uh just an idea about
Kristy Chavez: Oh okay.
Melinda Dyson: how to m th that could also be
Kristy Chavez: That's
Melinda Dyson: possible.
Kristy Chavez: the place where it's going to be, not
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Kristy Chavez: the size.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: well, it's an idea in a
Darlene Dwight: Oh y
Melinda Dyson: so.
Darlene Dwight: you perhaps you should make it a bit big, so people know it's there and uh
Melinda Dyson: Do not forget it.
Darlene Dwight: Uh
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm.
Melinda Dyson: To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uh big of course.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: Hmm.
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Melinda Dyson: The microphone
Kristy Chavez: Of course.
Melinda Dyson: could be just a minor uh hole
Kristy Chavez: Mm.
Melinda Dyson: uh
Kristy Chavez: Mm,
Melinda Dyson: on the left
Kristy Chavez: th yeah.
Melinda Dyson: uh button.
Kristy Chavez: Small.
Melinda Dyson: Okay um we also made some uh ideas about how uh the options menu would work. Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uh um
Darlene Dwight: You push the scroll button
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, you push the scroll button
Darlene Dwight: and it's claps out if there's
Melinda Dyson: and a drop
Darlene Dwight: a
Melinda Dyson: down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uh becoming available. For example uh T_V_ settings, uh
Darlene Dwight: Remote settings,
Melinda Dyson: remote
Darlene Dwight: et cetera.
Melinda Dyson: settings, et cetera.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: So uh you can scroll down too with the scroll uh button, uh as you can see oh, it's here, just push it in, uh the menu comes out like this and uh i it all becomes visible.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Um
Darlene Dwight: And you could also touch it so that it comes
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: out, and
Melinda Dyson: that's c
Darlene Dwight: and use
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: the the the scroll thing as a with your fingers.
Melinda Dyson: Indeed.
Darlene Dwight: Yes.
Melinda Dyson: Okay, um it's also uh nice to see that um we made a small uh menu, uh the options menu uh becoming available when pressing the uh scroll uh button, and the opportunity to use the teletext, whi which is used uh which should still be used and we think that it's uh very handy to put it uh not uh under the options menu, but in uh Yes. In an apart uh
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: So a separate button
Melinda Dyson: In a separate
Angela Wright: for
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: button,
Angela Wright: for text,
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Angela Wright: okay.
Darlene Dwight: Perhaps we should use the teletext sign in p
Melinda Dyson: A sign,
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: yeah, just like Okay, indeed.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Okay, we can
Darlene Dwight: Forgot.
Melinda Dyson: uh modify that later. Okay. Would you like to make any comments about next
Darlene Dwight: Uh
Melinda Dyson: uh
Darlene Dwight: well, this is the total interface uh that f of the L_C_D_ screen. Uh the numbers, which is pretty straight forward. We put ano an an extra button in. We can erase it, but It's the button where you can switch channels. just when you are one and you go to two, you can or if you go to five, you can go back to one with that button. Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: Previous page,
Darlene Dwight: that
Melinda Dyson: yeah,
Darlene Dwight: one, yeah.
Melinda Dyson: indeed.
Darlene Dwight: It has a name. And uh
Melinda Dyson: Oh my God.
Darlene Dwight: uh we put that in, I thought it would be handy there. Uh this the one number or two numbers button. Below that, the page and the sound. And uh in the middle the the mute. Uh battery indicator. It's
Melinda Dyson: It's
Darlene Dwight: it's
Melinda Dyson: quite
Darlene Dwight: a bit
Melinda Dyson: large.
Darlene Dwight: big. And this is the uh the on off uh knop, the stand by uh knop. Or at least it should look like it. And the options uh
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: of teletext.
Melinda Dyson: You can see very clearly now that the uh teletext and options menu isn't uh taking uh much uh uh it's taking much part of the screen, so it's very uh when you uh when you use it, doesn't uh become irritating to see. 'Cause
Darlene Dwight: Huh.
Melinda Dyson: if you put it on the top you always get see the the options menu. 'Cause people regularly uh read from left top to right down, so
Angela Wright: Mm-hmm.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Well this about it, I think.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Huh.
Angela Wright: Thank you.
Darlene Dwight: I will put
Angela Wright: Looks
Darlene Dwight: it
Angela Wright: good.
Darlene Dwight: back on the on
Angela Wright: And
Darlene Dwight: the
Angela Wright: I
Darlene Dwight: nice
Angela Wright: just missed
Darlene Dwight: green.
Angela Wright: when I was typing The R_R_ stands for?
Darlene Dwight: That's the logo of the
Angela Wright: Logo, okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. It's th th
Angela Wright: Okay well
Darlene Dwight: right now it's only R_ R_, but uh
Melinda Dyson: Full screen.
Angela Wright: I would have recognised
Kristy Chavez: Shit.
Angela Wright: it if it were the right colours of course.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Alright.
Darlene Dwight: Sorry.
Kristy Chavez: 'Kay.
Angela Wright: Okay, the
Darlene Dwight: Oh full screen,
Angela Wright: evaluation
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Huh.
Angela Wright: criteria, huh?
Kristy Chavez: Evaluation. 'Kay, my task was this time to put up a questionnaire by we can evaluate of the remote control by the questions we requirements from the of the users My name, my job, okay.
Melinda Dyson: My name,
Kristy Chavez: The methods.
Melinda Dyson: my job.
Kristy Chavez: Questionnaire with seven point scale from one to seven, from true to false, like
Darlene Dwight: Right.
Kristy Chavez: question, is remote big enough, we can say it's true or it's false by steps. One means absolutely not true, seven means true.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: The three important things of refa
Melinda Dyson: Sorry, you used the PowerPoint
Kristy Chavez: are uh from th of this year is are, is the remote control fancy enough,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: is it in innovative enough, and is it easy enough to use. And then evaluation itself. Uh.
Melinda Dyson: What?
Kristy Chavez: So.
Melinda Dyson: Bling.
Kristy Chavez: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: First question. Is the design fancy enough?
Darlene Dwight: Well
Kristy Chavez: Project Manager, what do you think?
Angela Wright: Well it's looks fancy, especially with the
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: green colour.
Kristy Chavez: But does it
Angela Wright: And the the curves which we decided, huh?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Only what happened to the single curve we spoke
Melinda Dyson: Now uh
Angela Wright: about
Darlene Dwight: It uh
Melinda Dyson: the single
Darlene Dwight: oh
Angela Wright: last
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: meeting?
Melinda Dyson: curved
Darlene Dwight: in the background.
Melinda Dyson: idea was
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Melinda Dyson: uh Yeah, okay, you ge um
Darlene Dwight: Y you should make uh a sideways
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: uh view.
Melinda Dyson: The sideways view, uh that that that
Darlene Dwight: It
Melinda Dyson: ma
Darlene Dwight: will be, I guess. Oh,
Melinda Dyson: Ho not
Darlene Dwight: we
Melinda Dyson: that
Darlene Dwight: can
Melinda Dyson: pen. Not that
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Melinda Dyson: pen.
Darlene Dwight: g I would
Angela Wright: Well it might
Darlene Dwight: smart
Angela Wright: work one
Darlene Dwight: board.
Angela Wright: time, huh.
Darlene Dwight: Uh can I draw here or uh
Melinda Dyson: Suppose so.
Kristy Chavez: Think.
Darlene Dwight: Ooh.
Melinda Dyson: Ah.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, yeah,
Melinda Dyson: Oh
Kristy Chavez: you can.
Melinda Dyson: my
Darlene Dwight: So
Melinda Dyson: God, it
Darlene Dwight: it
Melinda Dyson: works.
Darlene Dwight: would be uh something like this from the side, but with a bit of uh curve here, right?
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, that's the single curve indeed.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. So if you v flip it like this.
Melinda Dyson: Yep.
Angela Wright: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Here's
Melinda Dyson: That's
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: not very i it's also uh very handy if you make a side curve way to make the the remote control very thin at the bottom uh at a bottom at a bottom. Uh make it uh rather thick on the top, because uh on the top it has uh the screen, which takes uh in some uh space, and the batteries can be located over there,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: so
Darlene Dwight: So
Melinda Dyson: uh
Darlene Dwight: you just make the back of this part a bit bigger, so that
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: it lays
Kristy Chavez: Isn't
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: going
Darlene Dwight: bit
Kristy Chavez: to
Darlene Dwight: o
Kristy Chavez: be a little bit heavy at the top?
Melinda Dyson: No.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, that's a bit of problem maybe.
Kristy Chavez: With two batteries, the whole print plate and t and
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: top, and if you're holding it
Darlene Dwight: I think yeah, the
Kristy Chavez: quite
Darlene Dwight: battery
Kristy Chavez: a
Darlene Dwight: should
Kristy Chavez: lot
Darlene Dwight: be in here,
Kristy Chavez: I think
Darlene Dwight: because it's
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: just nothing,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: so if you could
Melinda Dyson: Okay, indeed. Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. 'Cause
Angela Wright: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: otherwise
Angela Wright: but we
Darlene Dwight: I
Angela Wright: have
Darlene Dwight: think
Angela Wright: to
Darlene Dwight: i
Angela Wright: rate uh
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, we have to rate.
Angela Wright: these things
Kristy Chavez: Is
Angela Wright: now?
Kristy Chavez: it
Angela Wright: Okay.
Kristy Chavez: fancy enough? True is one, false is seven. So fancy enough means, does it comes to the younger people and the elder people.
Darlene Dwight: I think it
Melinda Dyson: I think
Darlene Dwight: does.
Melinda Dyson: so.
Kristy Chavez: I think
Darlene Dwight: I
Melinda Dyson: It's pretty
Darlene Dwight: if you
Melinda Dyson: fancy.
Darlene Dwight: don't make it green, then the elder people won't won't
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: like
Kristy Chavez: I have
Darlene Dwight: it.
Kristy Chavez: to agree, all the colour colours don don
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: you
Kristy Chavez: doesn't
Melinda Dyson: get
Kristy Chavez: matter
Melinda Dyson: th
Kristy Chavez: that m that much now, it's
Angela Wright: Mm-hmm.
Kristy Chavez: only design.
Darlene Dwight: I think it does.
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: And the design.
Angela Wright: Well I think
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: uh especially because of the microphone and the L_C_D_ screen
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. I don't know
Angela Wright: also.
Darlene Dwight: whether older people will use
Angela Wright: Very
Darlene Dwight: it,
Angela Wright: new
Darlene Dwight: but
Angela Wright: thing. Well
Kristy Chavez: So
Angela Wright: Fancy
Darlene Dwight: I
Angela Wright: the
Darlene Dwight: would
Angela Wright: old
Darlene Dwight: make it
Angela Wright: people
Darlene Dwight: a two
Angela Wright: will.
Darlene Dwight: or something.
Kristy Chavez: A two?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Huh?
Melinda Dyson: It's true, it's a one.
Darlene Dwight: Alright, it's a one.
Melinda Dyson: Very
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Melinda Dyson: fancy.
Angela Wright: No, it's a two.
Darlene Dwight: it's a one.
Angela Wright: Little bit strange we have to judge that ourselves, huh?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: I n used I wouldn I should use that one, but it doesn't
Darlene Dwight: But it's a one uh
Kristy Chavez: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: Maybe
Kristy Chavez: no
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: it's two? True is a one.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Very true, is it very true or isn't that true?
Angela Wright: Well
Darlene Dwight: Well
Angela Wright: I'd
Darlene Dwight: they
Angela Wright: say
Darlene Dwight: think
Angela Wright: two
Darlene Dwight: it's very
Angela Wright: on a scale
Darlene Dwight: true, but
Melinda Dyson: It's very
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: true,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: because
Kristy Chavez: I think
Melinda Dyson: we designed
Kristy Chavez: two.
Melinda Dyson: it to be very fancy, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but
Melinda Dyson: It's very fancy, I think.
Darlene Dwight: We should
Melinda Dyson: Have you ever
Darlene Dwight: perhaps
Melinda Dyson: seen a remote control like this?
Angela Wright: No, okay well,
Melinda Dyson: No,
Angela Wright: that's
Melinda Dyson: okay,
Angela Wright: true.
Melinda Dyson: so
Kristy Chavez: That's
Darlene Dwight: That
Melinda Dyson: so
Kristy Chavez: fancy
Darlene Dwight: not.
Melinda Dyson: it's fancy.
Kristy Chavez: enough.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Then?
Angela Wright: Okay, one two. That doesn't matter that much,
Kristy Chavez: Okay.
Angela Wright: so
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: make it a one.
Kristy Chavez: Let's give it a two. Is it innovative?
Darlene Dwight: I think
Kristy Chavez: Enough.
Darlene Dwight: it is, because it has
Angela Wright: Yeah
Darlene Dwight: an L_C_D_
Angela Wright: m
Darlene Dwight: screen, a mi microphone.
Melinda Dyson: And uh
Kristy Chavez: We have
Darlene Dwight: It's
Kristy Chavez: for
Darlene Dwight: from
Kristy Chavez: the search
Darlene Dwight: rubber.
Melinda Dyson: uh the scroll
Kristy Chavez: function.
Melinda Dyson: is rubber,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: so s
Kristy Chavez: The scroller
Melinda Dyson: Eno
Kristy Chavez: a bit I think
Melinda Dyson: enough
Kristy Chavez: it's
Melinda Dyson: to
Darlene Dwight: It's
Melinda Dyson: I
Darlene Dwight: a one
Melinda Dyson: think.
Kristy Chavez: it's a
Darlene Dwight: I
Kristy Chavez: one
Darlene Dwight: think.
Kristy Chavez: yeah. True. Also huh uh-huh the buttons, are they easy to find? That was a big requirement of the old people.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, because they're right on your screen. So you can use the b the the arrows.
Melinda Dyson: Huh.
Darlene Dwight: They're right on your screen, so I don't know where you'd
Melinda Dyson: With the ones
Darlene Dwight: search.
Kristy Chavez: Are all the buttons
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: easy to find? Not only this buttons, all the buttons.
Darlene Dwight: Well, I think they are. The
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: options are it uh little bit harder, but if you
Melinda Dyson: Take
Darlene Dwight: touch
Melinda Dyson: a harder
Darlene Dwight: the
Melinda Dyson: look,
Darlene Dwight: options
Melinda Dyson: yeah,
Darlene Dwight: then
Melinda Dyson: sure.
Darlene Dwight: it's uh
Kristy Chavez: I think th it's
Melinda Dyson: It's easier
Kristy Chavez: easy t
Melinda Dyson: than the regular uh remote control.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: I
Angela Wright: and
Kristy Chavez: think
Angela Wright: you use
Kristy Chavez: this is easy
Angela Wright: these
Kristy Chavez: now.
Angela Wright: buttons
Kristy Chavez: I think
Angela Wright: the most,
Kristy Chavez: th I think
Angela Wright: huh?
Kristy Chavez: the
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: options
Angela Wright: So
Kristy Chavez: buttons are not the the easiest way to to
Darlene Dwight: No they're not, but they're
Kristy Chavez: to
Darlene Dwight: they're
Kristy Chavez: handle.
Darlene Dwight: they are easy to find.
Kristy Chavez: True. I
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: would rate
Melinda Dyson: they
Kristy Chavez: it
Melinda Dyson: are
Kristy Chavez: a
Melinda Dyson: a lot easier to find than uh th than on the regular remote controls where you have
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Melinda Dyson: to uh find out what which sign or icon means on uh every
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: button.
Kristy Chavez: okay,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: that's true, that's
Melinda Dyson: So
Angela Wright: So
Kristy Chavez: true.
Melinda Dyson: you have t you
Angela Wright: which
Melinda Dyson: have to use the
Kristy Chavez: But
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: that's
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: that's vantage
Melinda Dyson: manual
Kristy Chavez: of L_C_D_
Melinda Dyson: to
Kristy Chavez: screen,
Melinda Dyson: understand
Kristy Chavez: you can have
Melinda Dyson: most
Kristy Chavez: text.
Angela Wright: So
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: which number are we going
Darlene Dwight: I would
Angela Wright: to
Melinda Dyson: I
Angela Wright: fill
Darlene Dwight: say
Melinda Dyson: think
Angela Wright: in?
Melinda Dyson: it's
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: uh it's a two,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: at least.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: A
Darlene Dwight: you
Angela Wright: two,
Darlene Dwight: can make
Angela Wright: yeah?
Darlene Dwight: it a two.
Angela Wright: Two,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: three
Melinda Dyson: It's not
Angela Wright: and
Melinda Dyson: perfect,
Angela Wright: what do you
Melinda Dyson: but
Angela Wright: think?
Kristy Chavez: I think it's a three.
Melinda Dyson: A three?
Angela Wright: Okay,
Melinda Dyson: And
Angela Wright: so
Melinda Dyson: why
Angela Wright: we
Melinda Dyson: is
Kristy Chavez: I
Angela Wright: have
Melinda Dyson: that?
Kristy Chavez: personally
Angela Wright: two,
Kristy Chavez: think, because
Angela Wright: two,
Kristy Chavez: I d I don't
Angela Wright: three.
Kristy Chavez: think i maybe it's easy to use, it has to be easy to find right away. I I think if you have the button at the right, I don't think you can find the option
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but
Kristy Chavez: button
Darlene Dwight: you don't have
Kristy Chavez: that
Darlene Dwight: t
Kristy Chavez: easy.
Darlene Dwight: have to use the button on the right.
Kristy Chavez: You
Darlene Dwight: You
Kristy Chavez: can
Darlene Dwight: can touch it.
Kristy Chavez: touch it.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: It said bo
Darlene Dwight: You you
Melinda Dyson: both
Darlene Dwight: can touch
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: options.
Darlene Dwight: options.
Kristy Chavez: okay, but you have y then you have here s written option on here, the teletext button, right?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Okay, then okay, good. Then I think also two, yeah.
Darlene Dwight: You can touch options and
Angela Wright: A
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: two,
Darlene Dwight: comes
Angela Wright: okay,
Darlene Dwight: out.
Kristy Chavez: Yep.
Melinda Dyson: A
Angela Wright: because
Melinda Dyson: two,
Angela Wright: we have
Melinda Dyson: a two.
Angela Wright: to
Darlene Dwight: The uh the
Angela Wright: It's
Darlene Dwight: um
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Angela Wright: the
Melinda Dyson: the
Angela Wright: box
Melinda Dyson: next
Angela Wright: below
Darlene Dwight: Below.
Melinda Dyson: question
Angela Wright: it, huh?
Melinda Dyson: the next question. Oh my God.
Angela Wright: Otherwise we have two results in one question.
Darlene Dwight: It's different.
Angela Wright: Okay, next
Kristy Chavez: It's
Angela Wright: question.
Kristy Chavez: easy to use, as well for younger as elderl elderly people.
Darlene Dwight: For young people I think it's easy to use.
Kristy Chavez: Young means
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: sixteen
Melinda Dyson: I was
Kristy Chavez: to forty years.
Melinda Dyson: uh
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: And elderly from forty
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: eight to their
Darlene Dwight: I think
Kristy Chavez: death.
Darlene Dwight: it's
Melinda Dyson: I think it's the most useful uh remote control ever to be manufactured.
Angela Wright: Okay, you're very enthusiastic
Kristy Chavez: Also
Angela Wright: about
Darlene Dwight: In the entire
Angela Wright: your
Kristy Chavez: if
Angela Wright: own
Kristy Chavez: you're
Angela Wright: design,
Darlene Dwight: mankind.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: sixty
Melinda Dyson: but
Angela Wright: huh?
Melinda Dyson: because
Kristy Chavez: years
Melinda Dyson: it has
Kristy Chavez: old
Melinda Dyson: the regular uh controls, li uh as you can see in the screen now, and uh So it's
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: t I think it's really easy to use. You want
Kristy Chavez: Also
Melinda Dyson: these options
Angela Wright: As well for
Melinda Dyson: to
Angela Wright: the for the older
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Angela Wright: people?
Kristy Chavez: as well
Melinda Dyson: Uh sure.
Kristy Chavez: as your if you're fif sixty years old,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but uh
Kristy Chavez: you're holding one of those things in your
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: hand No,
Darlene Dwight: right?
Kristy Chavez: but we're going
Darlene Dwight: So
Kristy Chavez: to th make this f for a all kind of people,
Angela Wright: And
Kristy Chavez: so it it
Angela Wright: would
Kristy Chavez: it
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: it
Kristy Chavez: has
Darlene Dwight: okay,
Angela Wright: be easy
Kristy Chavez: to
Darlene Dwight: but
Kristy Chavez: be
Darlene Dwight: so
Angela Wright: for them
Darlene Dwight: they could
Angela Wright: to use the speech recognition?
Darlene Dwight: Uh I think it is. If they read a manual.
Angela Wright: Because that might
Kristy Chavez: If
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: you
Angela Wright: Okay,
Kristy Chavez: read
Melinda Dyson: Perhaps
Kristy Chavez: the
Angela Wright: well
Melinda Dyson: that
Kristy Chavez: manual,
Melinda Dyson: is
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: one of the
Darlene Dwight: alright.
Melinda Dyson: most
Kristy Chavez: always.
Melinda Dyson: uh
Angela Wright: M
Darlene Dwight: Because
Angela Wright: maybe
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Darlene Dwight: it
Melinda Dyson: because
Angela Wright: that's
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: the
Melinda Dyson: a lot
Angela Wright: most
Darlene Dwight: not
Melinda Dyson: of
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: user
Darlene Dwight: not
Angela Wright: friendly
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: and
Darlene Dwight: it's not
Angela Wright: easy to
Darlene Dwight: uh difficult.
Angela Wright: use.
Darlene Dwight: You say you say uh
Melinda Dyson: Channel
Darlene Dwight: record
Melinda Dyson: one, channel four, yeah.
Darlene Dwight: to to the to the speech recognition, then you say the question and the answer. And that's everything it does, the speech recognition.
Angela Wright: Yeah, well maybe that would make it even
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: more easy to use for
Darlene Dwight: I
Angela Wright: them.
Darlene Dwight: think it would
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: make
Melinda Dyson: I think
Darlene Dwight: it uh
Melinda Dyson: it does.
Kristy Chavez: So
Melinda Dyson: Because all the people who can't uh
Darlene Dwight: I would make it two.
Kristy Chavez: Also two?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Kristy Chavez: Not
Melinda Dyson: a
Kristy Chavez: a seven
Melinda Dyson: two.
Kristy Chavez: for this?
Melinda Dyson: Sure, two. Oh.
Angela Wright: I'd say three.
Darlene Dwight: Three?
Kristy Chavez: I would also say three.
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Angela Wright: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: You?
Angela Wright: so we have three three two two or
Melinda Dyson: Two.
Darlene Dwight: Oh. Well
Angela Wright: So what are we going to do?
Darlene Dwight: Two and a
Angela Wright: Okay, a three, I see.
Darlene Dwight: half.
Angela Wright: Uh
Darlene Dwight: Three?
Melinda Dyson: Give
Darlene Dwight: No.
Melinda Dyson: Kristy Chavez more.
Angela Wright: Another question.
Kristy Chavez: Remotes overwhelmed with buttons.
Darlene Dwight: No.
Melinda Dyson: No.
Angela Wright: No.
Kristy Chavez: No, that that's that's
Darlene Dwight: But
Kristy Chavez: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: um I mean,
Kristy Chavez: Tha
Darlene Dwight: that's
Kristy Chavez: that's a one,
Darlene Dwight: definitely
Kristy Chavez: I think,
Darlene Dwight: one.
Kristy Chavez: that's definitely
Melinda Dyson: That's
Kristy Chavez: a
Melinda Dyson: definitely
Kristy Chavez: one.
Melinda Dyson: our
Darlene Dwight: Oh nee,
Melinda Dyson: uh
Darlene Dwight: oh seven is it? It is.
Kristy Chavez: No? Oh
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: uh the remote
Melinda Dyson: A
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: false,
Darlene Dwight: score.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Angela Wright: but I think you should make it one scale with with one
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Angela Wright: being good and
Kristy Chavez: I think
Angela Wright: seven being
Kristy Chavez: isn't,
Angela Wright: bad, because
Kristy Chavez: this
Angela Wright: otherwise
Kristy Chavez: has to be
Angela Wright: we can't uh
Kristy Chavez: something
Darlene Dwight: It's not
Kristy Chavez: like
Darlene Dwight: overwhelmed.
Angela Wright: calculate anything
Kristy Chavez: isn't
Angela Wright: from
Kristy Chavez: overwhelmed.
Angela Wright: the
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: results, so
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, indeed.
Kristy Chavez: True.
Angela Wright: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: Yep.
Angela Wright: a one, because we designed for that,
Kristy Chavez: Remote
Angela Wright: huh?
Kristy Chavez: control has uh colours that different
Darlene Dwight: Yes.
Kristy Chavez: that meet different target groups.
Darlene Dwight: 'Cause we make them in different colours, so
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: that they
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: is optional.
Kristy Chavez: That's
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: true.
Angela Wright: and I though w we had about single colours, but you can also make uh a wood colour, not just one single colour but a
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: wood-like
Melinda Dyson: Huh.
Darlene Dwight: That it that it looks
Angela Wright: thing, can't
Darlene Dwight: like
Angela Wright: you?
Darlene Dwight: wood,
Kristy Chavez: Also
Darlene Dwight: like
Kristy Chavez: with
Darlene Dwight: something,
Kristy Chavez: rubber?
Darlene Dwight: yeah. Uh I think you
Angela Wright: Whether
Darlene Dwight: can.
Angela Wright: it looks like wood, it isn't w it
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Angela Wright: isn't
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Angela Wright: wood but
Darlene Dwight: It it feels like rubber,
Angela Wright: You can make
Darlene Dwight: but
Angela Wright: a print on rubber, can't you?
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah?
Darlene Dwight: Well
Angela Wright: So
Darlene Dwight: but
Angela Wright: that's
Darlene Dwight: then
Angela Wright: a one
Darlene Dwight: when
Angela Wright: then,
Darlene Dwight: you
Angela Wright: huh?
Darlene Dwight: scratch it it does come
Kristy Chavez: That's
Darlene Dwight: off.
Kristy Chavez: a one? Okay.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, it
Darlene Dwight: So
Melinda Dyson: is
Darlene Dwight: that's
Melinda Dyson: it is
Darlene Dwight: a bit
Melinda Dyson: harder
Angela Wright: Do you
Melinda Dyson: to
Angela Wright: have many questions?
Kristy Chavez: Uh I have
Melinda Dyson: to like
Angela Wright: Oh, okay well
Darlene Dwight: Oh we have
Melinda Dyson: Geez.
Darlene Dwight: time.
Angela Wright: Yeah, but we have
Melinda Dyson: We're
Angela Wright: We
Melinda Dyson: getting
Angela Wright: also
Melinda Dyson: paid. We're
Angela Wright: We
Melinda Dyson: getting paid.
Kristy Chavez: The material
Angela Wright: have to get
Kristy Chavez: used
Angela Wright: to the
Kristy Chavez: is
Angela Wright: money.
Kristy Chavez: spongy, that that's uh that's a one, that's m rubber.
Darlene Dwight: What?
Angela Wright: What
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: spongy.
Darlene Dwight: yeah, it's very spongy.
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, I th
Darlene Dwight: Oh but not it's not very
Kristy Chavez: think
Darlene Dwight: spongy,
Kristy Chavez: it's not
Darlene Dwight: because
Kristy Chavez: the
Darlene Dwight: it's
Kristy Chavez: most
Darlene Dwight: hard rubber.
Kristy Chavez: spongy thing.
Darlene Dwight: I think it's a three.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: it's a three,
Angela Wright: Uh-huh, yeah.
Melinda Dyson: because you want to make it uh
Darlene Dwight: Hard
Melinda Dyson: rather
Darlene Dwight: but
Melinda Dyson: flexible but not too flexible,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: because
Darlene Dwight: You can
Melinda Dyson: it has
Darlene Dwight: break
Melinda Dyson: a L_C_D_
Darlene Dwight: it.
Melinda Dyson: screen.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Remote control
Melinda Dyson: Hard
Kristy Chavez: is hard to
Melinda Dyson: to
Kristy Chavez: lose.
Melinda Dyson: lose, yeah it sh
Darlene Dwight: Y yeah, you could you
Melinda Dyson: and
Darlene Dwight: could
Melinda Dyson: it's
Darlene Dwight: call
Melinda Dyson: easy
Kristy Chavez: Y
Melinda Dyson: to
Darlene Dwight: it.
Kristy Chavez: you
Melinda Dyson: find.
Kristy Chavez: can't you can't lose it if you're sixty years old. If first time see the thing you didn didn't adjust uh set the microphone, and then you
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: lose it, then you have lost
Darlene Dwight: y you
Kristy Chavez: it.
Darlene Dwight: can lose it, but it isn't hard to lose.
Kristy Chavez: It isn't hard, no. I think I think this is a two, personally.
Darlene Dwight: Two. That it's hard to lose?
Kristy Chavez: No.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, it it is
Melinda Dyson: Isn't hard
Darlene Dwight: there's
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: the
Melinda Dyson: to
Darlene Dwight: it's
Melinda Dyson: lose.
Angela Wright: so isn't
Darlene Dwight: a six,
Angela Wright: hard to lose
Darlene Dwight: you think?
Melinda Dyson: Isn't hard to lose, yeah.
Angela Wright: you.
Kristy Chavez: Isn't hard to lose.
Darlene Dwight: So it's a two. Yeah, you can lose it, so I don't
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: you can make
Kristy Chavez: You
Darlene Dwight: it
Kristy Chavez: can't
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: lose
Darlene Dwight: three
Kristy Chavez: it.
Darlene Dwight: I It
Kristy Chavez: Or
Darlene Dwight: does have
Kristy Chavez: if you're
Darlene Dwight: an
Kristy Chavez: you're
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: sixty
Darlene Dwight: built in
Kristy Chavez: years
Darlene Dwight: function.
Kristy Chavez: old,
Angela Wright: Yeah, but a har
Kristy Chavez: your demands
Angela Wright: A hard to lose is good. So it should this
Darlene Dwight: Nee.
Angela Wright: question should be hard to lose.
Darlene Dwight: Hard
Angela Wright: It's
Darlene Dwight: to
Angela Wright: difficult
Darlene Dwight: lose.
Angela Wright: to lose
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Angela Wright: it.
Darlene Dwight: right.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, this this is
Darlene Dwight: It
Melinda Dyson: hard
Darlene Dwight: is
Melinda Dyson: to
Darlene Dwight: hard
Melinda Dyson: lose.
Darlene Dwight: to lose. Yeah, so then this is it
Melinda Dyson: This
Darlene Dwight: is almost
Kristy Chavez: I
Angela Wright: A two.
Kristy Chavez: think
Darlene Dwight: true, so a two.
Kristy Chavez: yeah,
Angela Wright: A two.
Kristy Chavez: I think also.
Melinda Dyson: Two, yeah.
Angela Wright: Okay.
Melinda Dyson: And most all because of the option to
Kristy Chavez: Huh?
Melinda Dyson: Whoa.
Darlene Dwight: Ooh.
Angela Wright: Yeah, it's okay. That happens above also.
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Angela Wright: But
Kristy Chavez: Yeah?
Angela Wright: maybe when you scroll away
Kristy Chavez: Oh, okay.
Angela Wright: and back it will be normal, but Yep.
Kristy Chavez: No.
Angela Wright: Oh,
Darlene Dwight: Oh well,
Angela Wright: it
Darlene Dwight: it
Angela Wright: isn't,
Darlene Dwight: doesn't.
Angela Wright: well okay. Remember.
Melinda Dyson: put the cor cursor on
Kristy Chavez: Okay
Melinda Dyson: the.
Kristy Chavez: okay okay. Remote
Melinda Dyson: Click.
Kristy Chavez: control mainly be sold to younger people.
Melinda Dyson: True.
Darlene Dwight: I think it will,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah?
Melinda Dyson: True.
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Kristy Chavez: True? Very true?
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Darlene Dwight: Uh
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Kristy Chavez: No,
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Angela Wright: There.
Darlene Dwight: well I
Kristy Chavez: I don't think very true because
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: the colours.
Darlene Dwight: a two.
Kristy Chavez: We have the colours. Um we have the buttons is aren't that that much.
Melinda Dyson: Materials, yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Nah, the material isn't that
Darlene Dwight: It's
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Darlene Dwight: it's
Melinda Dyson: okay.
Darlene Dwight: much more younger.
Kristy Chavez: So I don
Melinda Dyson: So ma
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: uh make
Kristy Chavez: think
Melinda Dyson: it make
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: it a
Kristy Chavez: think
Melinda Dyson: two.
Kristy Chavez: it's a three.
Angela Wright: Well I think it's it's uh a lower number, so better because w we designed it for young people
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: especially,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: I
Kristy Chavez: but
Darlene Dwight: think
Kristy Chavez: I
Darlene Dwight: it's
Kristy Chavez: uh
Darlene Dwight: a
Angela Wright: didn't
Darlene Dwight: two
Angela Wright: we?
Darlene Dwight: but
Kristy Chavez: Okay, okay.
Angela Wright: What do you think?
Kristy Chavez: I think
Angela Wright: Questions?
Melinda Dyson: A
Kristy Chavez: because
Melinda Dyson: two? I think it's two.
Angela Wright: Two.
Kristy Chavez: yeah?
Melinda Dyson: I think it's two
Angela Wright: Uh-huh.
Melinda Dyson: too, two too too.
Darlene Dwight: Two two two. Let's make everything
Kristy Chavez: In
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: the
Darlene Dwight: two.
Kristy Chavez: features?
Angela Wright: Dissatisfy younger people.
Darlene Dwight: Younger
Angela Wright: Um
Darlene Dwight: people. It
Melinda Dyson: Well
Darlene Dwight: has
Melinda Dyson: perhaps not.
Darlene Dwight: What
Kristy Chavez: Because younger
Darlene Dwight: did
Kristy Chavez: peoples are cr critical and they wanted a lot of features on
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: this thing.
Darlene Dwight: Well
Melinda Dyson: Well,
Darlene Dwight: that it
Melinda Dyson: n
Darlene Dwight: doesn't.
Melinda Dyson: not exactly but uh uh if it had some games on it or something like
Darlene Dwight: Yeah
Melinda Dyson: that,
Darlene Dwight: bu but
Melinda Dyson: but it's for a remote control I think it i
Darlene Dwight: I think
Melinda Dyson: it would
Darlene Dwight: they
Melinda Dyson: satisfy
Darlene Dwight: like the speech.
Melinda Dyson: those needs. Yeah, the
Darlene Dwight: You
Melinda Dyson: speech
Darlene Dwight: could call
Melinda Dyson: possibility,
Kristy Chavez: L_C_D_
Darlene Dwight: to your uh
Kristy Chavez: screen
Darlene Dwight: yeah,
Melinda Dyson: the colours.
Darlene Dwight: and
Kristy Chavez: and scroll.
Darlene Dwight: the screen,
Melinda Dyson: Scroll
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: options, yeah.
Kristy Chavez: I I think they'll be quite met with their expectations.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: Right,
Kristy Chavez: No.
Darlene Dwight: that that that
Angela Wright: It
Darlene Dwight: those
Angela Wright: has
Darlene Dwight: are features.
Angela Wright: relatively
Kristy Chavez: It's three
Angela Wright: few
Kristy Chavez: features,
Angela Wright: features,
Kristy Chavez: basically,
Angela Wright: with
Kristy Chavez: the L_C_D_ touch screen is feature.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: The
Darlene Dwight: No, aren't
Kristy Chavez: microphone
Darlene Dwight: the features
Kristy Chavez: is a feature.
Darlene Dwight: the microphone's feature and that you can change the channel's feature, and that you can change
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: the volume is feature, and that you can change the options of the remote,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: uh uh
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Angela Wright: Ours
Darlene Dwight: something
Angela Wright: had other
Darlene Dwight: like that.
Angela Wright: features with
Kristy Chavez: I think
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: yeah, and then you have the
Melinda Dyson: The
Kristy Chavez: audio
Melinda Dyson: easy
Kristy Chavez: settings,
Melinda Dyson: volume
Kristy Chavez: channel
Melinda Dyson: up
Kristy Chavez: setting,
Melinda Dyson: button.
Darlene Dwight: Those
Kristy Chavez: video
Darlene Dwight: are
Kristy Chavez: settings.
Darlene Dwight: features.
Melinda Dyson: Remote younger people usually use the remote control to put on the volume.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Turn uh turn
Kristy Chavez: So I've
Melinda Dyson: up
Kristy Chavez: chos
Melinda Dyson: the volume.
Kristy Chavez: I shou I think it's it's it's a one.
Darlene Dwight: Enough features?
Kristy Chavez: Personally, yeah. I think once you've 'cause you have the channel features b uh you have the uh screen features, audio features, the you have all buttons on it which you'd like, microphone extra, L_C_D_ screen extra, scroll thing extra.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Okay, you think one, what do you think?
Darlene Dwight: I think
Angela Wright: You.
Darlene Dwight: two or three.
Angela Wright: three, yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Two.
Angela Wright: I'd say three, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Yeah
Angela Wright: two
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: Make
Angela Wright: it
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: it
Angela Wright: is
Darlene Dwight: two
Angela Wright: then
Kristy Chavez: make
Angela Wright: or
Kristy Chavez: it a
Darlene Dwight: a
Kristy Chavez: two.
Darlene Dwight: two.
Melinda Dyson: One two three.
Kristy Chavez: Or make
Darlene Dwight: Just
Kristy Chavez: it
Darlene Dwight: another
Kristy Chavez: uh
Darlene Dwight: two.
Kristy Chavez: a fucking
Darlene Dwight: We
Kristy Chavez: two.
Darlene Dwight: like
Melinda Dyson: Right.
Darlene Dwight: two.
Kristy Chavez: You can see the remote control is R_ and R_.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, there's
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Darlene Dwight: R_ and
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: R_ in front.
Angela Wright: Yep.
Darlene Dwight: Uh it's not the colour, so maybe you should make two, but it has R_ and
Kristy Chavez: Has
Darlene Dwight: R_.
Kristy Chavez: oh yeah, do did have nah y you have the black one.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: And we'll probably make also a yellow one.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: but not R_
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: and R_
Angela Wright: maybe
Darlene Dwight: yellow
Angela Wright: maybe
Darlene Dwight: I think.
Angela Wright: two. Well m th
Kristy Chavez: Maybe
Angela Wright: but
Kristy Chavez: two.
Angela Wright: the logo
Melinda Dyson: Okay, true,
Angela Wright: is on
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Angela Wright: on the front, so
Darlene Dwight: One
Kristy Chavez: X_
Darlene Dwight: d on i
Kristy Chavez: marks
Darlene Dwight: it's
Kristy Chavez: spot.
Darlene Dwight: the
Angela Wright: a two,
Darlene Dwight: colours
Angela Wright: yeah, that's
Darlene Dwight: and the
Kristy Chavez: And the menu is avail that is available is easy to use.
Darlene Dwight: I think it is, but I don't know what you think.
Melinda Dyson: I think it's easier to use than a regular remote control,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: because
Kristy Chavez: tha
Melinda Dyson: when
Kristy Chavez: that's
Melinda Dyson: you push
Kristy Chavez: so true.
Melinda Dyson: on the options menu, you get the the the various options uh entirely explained.
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm.
Melinda Dyson: Entirely explained. Instead of uh just finding out what an icon means on a button.
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm. Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: And
Kristy Chavez: uh
Darlene Dwight: you can navigate easier,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, you
Darlene Dwight: because
Melinda Dyson: can navigate.
Darlene Dwight: wi with the you have to push the the the arrows and with a normal
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Darlene Dwight: T_V_ uh remote.
Kristy Chavez: I think that wou that would be quite hard to learn
Melinda Dyson: You're not
Kristy Chavez: to
Melinda Dyson: satisfied,
Kristy Chavez: use it.
Melinda Dyson: okay.
Kristy Chavez: No, I'm
Melinda Dyson: Let's start
Kristy Chavez: not not
Melinda Dyson: over
Kristy Chavez: convinc.
Melinda Dyson: again then.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Let's make a different remote.
Kristy Chavez: Let's go th
Darlene Dwight: Well
Kristy Chavez: for
Darlene Dwight: Menu.
Kristy Chavez: I think it would be a t yeah, two.
Darlene Dwight: A two?
Kristy Chavez: Now lower.
Melinda Dyson: A two.
Angela Wright: Oh,
Darlene Dwight: We only
Angela Wright: well
Darlene Dwight: have
Angela Wright: that's
Darlene Dwight: twos.
Angela Wright: that's pretty good, huh?
Melinda Dyson: Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Uh just
Kristy Chavez: So
Darlene Dwight: twos.
Kristy Chavez: okay,
Melinda Dyson: And
Darlene Dwight: One
Melinda Dyson: three.
Kristy Chavez: we
Darlene Dwight: three
Kristy Chavez: have
Darlene Dwight: and a few ones.
Kristy Chavez: one three, a one, that that have to got
Darlene Dwight: Two threes.
Kristy Chavez: up. Two two two
Darlene Dwight: We
Kristy Chavez: two
Darlene Dwight: m
Kristy Chavez: two.
Darlene Dwight: mostly have twos,
Kristy Chavez: So two, yeah.
Darlene Dwight: so it's pretty good.
Kristy Chavez: The average is a two.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: That
Melinda Dyson: The average.
Kristy Chavez: is quite good
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. I think
Kristy Chavez: in my
Darlene Dwight: so
Kristy Chavez: opinion.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: too.
Melinda Dyson: I think so.
Kristy Chavez: That
Darlene Dwight: We
Kristy Chavez: Ooh.
Darlene Dwight: can be happy.
Melinda Dyson: Save.
Kristy Chavez: Ooh.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. What is it? It's like a bug
Melinda Dyson: It's
Darlene Dwight: or
Melinda Dyson: a fly.
Darlene Dwight: something. A fly, yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Oh m
Darlene Dwight: A f butterfly.
Kristy Chavez: Top.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. That's it.
Kristy Chavez: Okay.
Angela Wright: That was your evaluation uh
Kristy Chavez: Yes.
Angela Wright: show, okay, so we don't
Darlene Dwight: Sure.
Angela Wright: have to calculate anything because of um
Kristy Chavez: No, it's
Angela Wright: these
Kristy Chavez: two.
Angela Wright: results. Okay, good.
Kristy Chavez: The
Darlene Dwight: It's
Kristy Chavez: average
Darlene Dwight: good.
Kristy Chavez: is two.
Angela Wright: Um
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: let's see oh, it isn't asked to save but it did
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: already
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: Exactly.
Kristy Chavez: I uh uh I uh
Angela Wright: And
Kristy Chavez: saved
Angela Wright: this
Kristy Chavez: it.
Angela Wright: Everything okay. Well, the next part uh might be a little bit difficult to do in a group, but I am willing to try it. Because we are going to look at the finance and I have
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: a nice Excel sheet to do that.
Darlene Dwight: Redesign. No.
Angela Wright: And um I'm not sure if I put it in the project folder. look on that. Um and we're going to calculate the production costs,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: and if they are uh under or at twelve Euro fifty, we're good,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: and if they're not we're going to uh re-design,
Darlene Dwight: So we're going
Angela Wright: but
Darlene Dwight: to
Angela Wright: we have to do that
Darlene Dwight: erase
Angela Wright: uh
Darlene Dwight: features
Angela Wright: very
Darlene Dwight: or
Angela Wright: very
Darlene Dwight: something.
Angela Wright: quick I think, yes. Um I don't know if I
Darlene Dwight: Do you have the cost or uh
Angela Wright: put the Excel sheet in the
Darlene Dwight: Let's hope.
Angela Wright: n not in the
Kristy Chavez: f
Darlene Dwight: We're going
Angela Wright: folder.
Kristy Chavez: fifty
Darlene Dwight: to be here
Kristy Chavez: five
Angela Wright: I
Darlene Dwight: at eight
Kristy Chavez: Euros.
Darlene Dwight: o'clock.
Angela Wright: think it's I think it's still in my own documents folder.
Darlene Dwight: We're goin still going to be here at eight o'clock.
Kristy Chavez: No.
Darlene Dwight: I doubt
Angela Wright: Oh shit.
Darlene Dwight: it. Perhaps we've got features that don't exist
Kristy Chavez: Yeah
Darlene Dwight: in the Excel
Kristy Chavez: mm
Darlene Dwight: sheet.
Kristy Chavez: yeah, maybe.
Angela Wright: So
Kristy Chavez: The microphone.
Darlene Dwight: No, it was in my uh my
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: information,
Melinda Dyson: It
Darlene Dwight: so
Melinda Dyson: i
Kristy Chavez: Yeah?
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: It wasn't too much.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: maybe you're going scrap
Melinda Dyson: As well as the L_C_D_ screen.
Kristy Chavez: scrap
Melinda Dyson: Whoa.
Kristy Chavez: it.
Angela Wright: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: Well,
Angela Wright: well
Darlene Dwight: if it doesn't
Angela Wright: this is
Darlene Dwight: work
Angela Wright: it. Um maybe I could ask one of you to uh fill it in, so that I can also uh
Darlene Dwight: I
Angela Wright: take
Darlene Dwight: want
Angela Wright: minutes,
Darlene Dwight: to fill it in,
Kristy Chavez: No prob.
Darlene Dwight: but uh
Angela Wright: and uh maybe the other can uh use that thing to count uh numerous
Kristy Chavez: Ah.
Angela Wright: functions.
Darlene Dwight: But you should uh
Kristy Chavez: Count
Darlene Dwight: direct
Kristy Chavez: it? Li like write
Angela Wright: Well
Kristy Chavez: it
Angela Wright: we have to
Kristy Chavez: be
Angela Wright: count some things and we have to think about some things.
Melinda Dyson: Count it.
Angela Wright: But
Melinda Dyson: You
Angela Wright: you have
Melinda Dyson: got
Angela Wright: to fill
Melinda Dyson: Excel
Angela Wright: in
Melinda Dyson: to count.
Angela Wright: this
Darlene Dwight: The number
Angela Wright: column,
Darlene Dwight: of
Angela Wright: huh? No, uh count uh number of functions, because
Melinda Dyson: Oh okay.
Angela Wright: for every button you have to
Melinda Dyson: Well
Angela Wright: pay
Kristy Chavez: Ah,
Angela Wright: and
Melinda Dyson: I dra
Kristy Chavez: okay,
Melinda Dyson: uh
Angela Wright: there are
Melinda Dyson: Danny,
Angela Wright: different screen
Melinda Dyson: Danny,
Angela Wright: shots,
Kristy Chavez: cool.
Angela Wright: so
Kristy Chavez: Huh?
Melinda Dyson: I'll do that, because
Kristy Chavez: Yeah?
Angela Wright: or
Kristy Chavez: Oh,
Melinda Dyson: I draw
Angela Wright: different
Kristy Chavez: yea yeah,
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: you
Melinda Dyson: uh
Kristy Chavez: design
Angela Wright: different
Kristy Chavez: it.
Angela Wright: screens, so
Darlene Dwight: We've got a battery, one or t two batteries,
Kristy Chavez: Um
Darlene Dwight: or not? nee one battery, with two small batteries.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Yeah, but it's it's more about the energy source, huh? Do you
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: use a hand dynamo, a battery,
Darlene Dwight: I would do a battery
Angela Wright: kinetic or solar
Darlene Dwight: we do.
Angela Wright: cells?
Kristy Chavez: Solar
Darlene Dwight: Right?
Kristy Chavez: cell. No it took
Darlene Dwight: A
Angela Wright: We'll
Melinda Dyson: No,
Darlene Dwight: battery.
Kristy Chavez: a
Melinda Dyson: no
Angela Wright: wait.
Kristy Chavez: battery?
Melinda Dyson: solar cell, no no no no.
Darlene Dwight: One battery, right?
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: No
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: hand dynamo. Hand
Darlene Dwight: Electronics,
Kristy Chavez: We have
Darlene Dwight: simple chip advanced chip, right?
Kristy Chavez: No, we have sample speaker.
Melinda Dyson: On advanced chip.
Kristy Chavez: But b al but we also have sample speaker, do
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: so this one and this one. Uh we
Kristy Chavez: Oh,
Darlene Dwight: ha
Kristy Chavez: we
Darlene Dwight: we
Kristy Chavez: already
Darlene Dwight: have um
Kristy Chavez: on
Darlene Dwight: single
Kristy Chavez: nine.
Darlene Dwight: what? Are we? Oh yay.
Kristy Chavez: We have double curved.
Melinda Dyson: Single nee single
Darlene Dwight: The single.
Melinda Dyson: curved.
Kristy Chavez: Single.
Melinda Dyson: Double curved was uh uh see uh ju three dimensional. But it isn't three dimensional,
Kristy Chavez: This
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Melinda Dyson: it
Kristy Chavez: one
Melinda Dyson: isn't
Kristy Chavez: is
Darlene Dwight: the
Melinda Dyson: curved
Darlene Dwight: the it's
Melinda Dyson: in
Darlene Dwight: not
Melinda Dyson: a
Darlene Dwight: going to
Melinda Dyson: l
Darlene Dwight: work uh people. We have
Kristy Chavez: This
Darlene Dwight: rubber.
Kristy Chavez: one is curved like this, right.
Angela Wright: I'll just
Kristy Chavez: It's
Angela Wright: fill it
Kristy Chavez: curved
Angela Wright: in.
Kristy Chavez: like
Melinda Dyson: No
Kristy Chavez: this.
Melinda Dyson: no no, single
Angela Wright: Um
Melinda Dyson: curved
Angela Wright: rubber
Melinda Dyson: is like
Angela Wright: indeed?
Melinda Dyson: this.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: Uh
Kristy Chavez: bu
Melinda Dyson: that's
Kristy Chavez: what
Melinda Dyson: the only curve you made, not th uh curved like that. That's uh
Kristy Chavez: Oh, but we have curves like it and it. There are two curves,
Darlene Dwight: Thirteen?
Kristy Chavez: right? Oh, okay I understand, I
Melinda Dyson: Huh?
Kristy Chavez: understand.
Darlene Dwight: With a scroll wheel, right?
Kristy Chavez: Rubber.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Is he integrated? No, eh? I
Kristy Chavez: Push
Darlene Dwight: don't
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: button.
Darlene Dwight: know.
Kristy Chavez: No, we don't have push
Melinda Dyson: we gotta
Kristy Chavez: button.
Melinda Dyson: integrate scroll wheel and push button, because when you push it and you w it won't just pu
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Melinda Dyson: uh
Darlene Dwight: yeah,
Melinda Dyson: makes
Darlene Dwight: right,
Melinda Dyson: possible
Darlene Dwight: we want
Melinda Dyson: to s
Darlene Dwight: it to it's not it's not no.
Kristy Chavez: L_C_D_
Melinda Dyson: Not going
Kristy Chavez: display.
Melinda Dyson: to work? Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yep. Fifteen, oh, too bad.
Melinda Dyson: Okay um
Darlene Dwight: Oh but with special colour we have. A special form, right?
Melinda Dyson: But now button supplements. We don't got the button supplements.
Darlene Dwight: Oh, we don't have any buttons, so
Kristy Chavez: Eighteen and a half,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: damn.
Darlene Dwight: we need to uh
Kristy Chavez: We
Melinda Dyson: Damn.
Kristy Chavez: have to lower it with six points.
Darlene Dwight: No,
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: uh we have fifteen and
Kristy Chavez: Twelve and half.
Darlene Dwight: oh, right. We could lose the curve.
Melinda Dyson: Nah.
Kristy Chavez: We could use
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, I
Melinda Dyson: We
Darlene Dwight: would
Melinda Dyson: could
Darlene Dwight: lose
Melinda Dyson: lose
Darlene Dwight: the curve.
Melinda Dyson: the scroll wheel. You could make it just a regular scroll wheel.
Darlene Dwight: But you can't push it, so
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: you have
Melinda Dyson: if you
Darlene Dwight: to
Melinda Dyson: can't
Darlene Dwight: tap.
Melinda Dyson: push it you have to tap the the options window uh button here and then uh scroll down with the d with uh with uh the
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: button.
Darlene Dwight: alright.
Angela Wright: Yeah, I think that will
Darlene Dwight: So
Angela Wright: be
Darlene Dwight: normal scroll wheel?
Angela Wright: our best
Melinda Dyson: Normal scroll
Angela Wright: bet.
Melinda Dyson: wheel.
Darlene Dwight: And I think we should lose
Kristy Chavez: I think
Darlene Dwight: the curve.
Kristy Chavez: we should
Melinda Dyson: Lose
Kristy Chavez: scrap the sample speaker. It's four pri it four units.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but if you would i it is a new feature, it it's something
Melinda Dyson: Okay, so
Darlene Dwight: special.
Melinda Dyson: we don't exactly need the single
Kristy Chavez: But w
Melinda Dyson: We
Kristy Chavez: d
Melinda Dyson: don't need
Kristy Chavez: wha
Melinda Dyson: a curve.
Darlene Dwight: No,
Melinda Dyson: 'S possible
Darlene Dwight: the curve
Melinda Dyson: to
Kristy Chavez: Curved
Melinda Dyson: lose
Darlene Dwight: doesn't
Kristy Chavez: then
Melinda Dyson: curve.
Kristy Chavez: it
Darlene Dwight: really
Kristy Chavez: will be square.
Darlene Dwight: No, then it will won't uh stand up from the table. Then
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Kristy Chavez: Was
Darlene Dwight: it
Kristy Chavez: that
Darlene Dwight: would
Kristy Chavez: does
Darlene Dwight: just
Kristy Chavez: that mean to it,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: single
Melinda Dyson: that's
Kristy Chavez: curve?
Melinda Dyson: meant
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: with scr uh with s curve. The curve is uh in a dimension.
Kristy Chavez: Okay.
Melinda Dyson: If you make it a flat
Darlene Dwight: So
Melinda Dyson: one, s n it's no curve, you got
Darlene Dwight: We would
Melinda Dyson: no
Darlene Dwight: lose
Melinda Dyson: curves.
Darlene Dwight: this one?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but tha that
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: that
Melinda Dyson: okay.
Kristy Chavez: only is one.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, we
Melinda Dyson: No,
Darlene Dwight: could
Melinda Dyson: two.
Darlene Dwight: s yeah, a bit.
Kristy Chavez: No, one.
Darlene Dwight: Sixteen
Melinda Dyson: Oh,
Darlene Dwight: point
Melinda Dyson: okay,
Darlene Dwight: three.
Melinda Dyson: indeed.
Kristy Chavez: So we don't
Darlene Dwight: So we
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: still
Kristy Chavez: we also have to
Melinda Dyson: Is it possible to make
Darlene Dwight: Could could we do it on a regular chip on print or something?
Kristy Chavez: No, otherwise we don't have an L_C_D_ screen.
Darlene Dwight: No? Ma
Melinda Dyson: No.
Darlene Dwight: y you just can't
Angela Wright: And
Darlene Dwight: do that,
Angela Wright: what did
Darlene Dwight: or
Angela Wright: you
Darlene Dwight: uh
Angela Wright: change? You changed the
Darlene Dwight: We changed th
Angela Wright: uh scroll wheel and
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, and the
Kristy Chavez: Single
Darlene Dwight: single curved
Kristy Chavez: curved.
Darlene Dwight: to uncurved.
Angela Wright: Oh,
Kristy Chavez: Flat.
Angela Wright: but it's just one
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, so that does doesn't
Angela Wright: point,
Kristy Chavez: doesn't
Darlene Dwight: No.
Angela Wright: so
Kristy Chavez: that mu
Angela Wright: maybe
Kristy Chavez: I think
Angela Wright: you should should uh
Kristy Chavez: Scrap sample speaker?
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: That
Angela Wright: you
Kristy Chavez: that's
Melinda Dyson: The
Angela Wright: should
Melinda Dyson: sample
Kristy Chavez: uh
Melinda Dyson: speaker
Angela Wright: you
Melinda Dyson: is
Angela Wright: should
Melinda Dyson: two d
Angela Wright: drop
Melinda Dyson: wait,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: the
Darlene Dwight: but
Melinda Dyson: f s
Darlene Dwight: it's
Angela Wright: speech
Melinda Dyson: four
Darlene Dwight: t
Melinda Dyson: points.
Angela Wright: recognition.
Kristy Chavez: Yes, four points.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but
Angela Wright: And
Darlene Dwight: it
Angela Wright: then
Darlene Dwight: is
Angela Wright: you can
Darlene Dwight: uh
Angela Wright: keep the curve.
Darlene Dwight: it it is a new feature, it
Angela Wright: Or
Darlene Dwight: is
Angela Wright: can't
Darlene Dwight: something
Angela Wright: you?
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, uh
Darlene Dwight: special.
Melinda Dyson: becau
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but
Melinda Dyson: uh
Kristy Chavez: what what
Melinda Dyson: when
Kristy Chavez: else
Melinda Dyson: you lose
Kristy Chavez: what else
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: uh do you want to scrap? F You have
Darlene Dwight: I
Kristy Chavez: to
Darlene Dwight: don't
Kristy Chavez: we
Darlene Dwight: know.
Kristy Chavez: have to scrap four points.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, that's difficult.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Or make it on a hand dynamo, but I
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: don't think that
Kristy Chavez: Ma
Angela Wright: will
Kristy Chavez: make
Angela Wright: work.
Kristy Chavez: it with wood instead of rubber?
Melinda Dyson: No, that's no. Make it
Darlene Dwight: Uh.
Melinda Dyson: w uh when you made it uh uh uh a remote control of wood?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, it
Melinda Dyson: You don't
Kristy Chavez: it
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: i
Darlene Dwight: We
Melinda Dyson: make
Darlene Dwight: could
Melinda Dyson: a
Angela Wright: mm-hmm.
Melinda Dyson: remote
Darlene Dwight: make it
Melinda Dyson: control
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: titanium
Melinda Dyson: of
Kristy Chavez: it also
Melinda Dyson: Ah.
Darlene Dwight: instead of rubber.
Kristy Chavez: uh it also takes one point less.
Angela Wright: Yeah, but uh a wooden remote control only helps for
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Angela Wright: uh
Darlene Dwight: Oh can I ask something?
Angela Wright: old people we discussed,
Darlene Dwight: What is
Angela Wright: yes?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: special colour? Is that the wood uh wood uh
Kristy Chavez: I think it is.
Darlene Dwight: this,
Melinda Dyson: It
Darlene Dwight: we
Melinda Dyson: isn't.
Darlene Dwight: have to have that one too?
Melinda Dyson: What?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Yeah, but it's only a half. But I think the only option is to
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: drop the uh
Kristy Chavez: Sample speaker.
Melinda Dyson: To knock
Angela Wright: sample
Melinda Dyson: the sample
Angela Wright: speaker.
Melinda Dyson: speaker, yeah. And sample sensor.
Darlene Dwight: Th then we still have too much
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, okay,
Darlene Dwight: if
Kristy Chavez: three.
Darlene Dwight: we
Melinda Dyson: But
Darlene Dwight: use
Melinda Dyson: m
Darlene Dwight: the
Kristy Chavez: Point
Melinda Dyson: yeah,
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: three.
Melinda Dyson: course, but
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, we we
Melinda Dyson: What
Darlene Dwight: scrap
Melinda Dyson: we'll
Darlene Dwight: that
Melinda Dyson: have.
Darlene Dwight: one?
Kristy Chavez: Huh?
Melinda Dyson: Let's make it thirteen or fourteen.
Kristy Chavez: Point twelve.
Darlene Dwight: See, a po three. We need point three.
Kristy Chavez: That's a scroll wheel.
Darlene Dwight: Uh it's a colour. Don't
Melinda Dyson: A colour.
Darlene Dwight: make it wood.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but a wood
Darlene Dwight: Make
Kristy Chavez: we can
Darlene Dwight: it
Kristy Chavez: make
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: it brown, dark brown, not wood.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but it's it's special colour, is it
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: a all
Melinda Dyson: special colours,
Darlene Dwight: kind of colours?
Melinda Dyson: fruity colours.
Darlene Dwight: It's also green
Kristy Chavez: Is it
Darlene Dwight: or
Kristy Chavez: also
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: no
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: that that's just normal colour fruit colours. Normal
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but it's
Kristy Chavez: colours,
Darlene Dwight: a special
Kristy Chavez: yellow
Darlene Dwight: colour than just rubber colour. You have to add something to the rubber to make it green.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: You don't say here's green rubber.
Melinda Dyson: They don't
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: sell
Kristy Chavez: but then
Melinda Dyson: green
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: rubber
Kristy Chavez: d I
Melinda Dyson: plants.
Kristy Chavez: don't think we can ever make
Melinda Dyson: Alright.
Kristy Chavez: to a twelve and half.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, you can, you should you have to lose
Kristy Chavez: But then we have to scrap L_C_D_ display, we have to scrap uh
Darlene Dwight: No, it is
Melinda Dyson: No
Kristy Chavez: s
Darlene Dwight: the scroll
Kristy Chavez: advanced
Melinda Dyson: no no.
Darlene Dwight: wheel,
Kristy Chavez: chip.
Darlene Dwight: I guess.
Kristy Chavez: No then we have to scrap everything we got because how many colours we gonna make? Five?
Melinda Dyson: If we lose
Kristy Chavez: Then we have
Melinda Dyson: the
Kristy Chavez: two.
Melinda Dyson: scroll wheel and make it totally uh depending uh dependent on
Kristy Chavez: S
Melinda Dyson: uh the
Darlene Dwight: A
Melinda Dyson: touch
Kristy Chavez: touch.
Darlene Dwight: push,
Melinda Dyson: screen
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: then it's possible to make.
Kristy Chavez: Then we
Melinda Dyson: And
Kristy Chavez: can make
Melinda Dyson: then you
Kristy Chavez: add
Melinda Dyson: can
Kristy Chavez: two colours
Melinda Dyson: and then you can
Kristy Chavez: on
Melinda Dyson: add
Kristy Chavez: it.
Melinda Dyson: to the colours.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, two colours it.
Melinda Dyson: Special c
Darlene Dwight: Switch
Melinda Dyson: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: colours.
Melinda Dyson: if you lose uh if you lose
Darlene Dwight: It
Melinda Dyson: the
Darlene Dwight: was such a great idea.
Melinda Dyson: You lose
Kristy Chavez: They can
Melinda Dyson: this one,
Kristy Chavez: add
Melinda Dyson: you got
Kristy Chavez: two
Melinda Dyson: eleven
Kristy Chavez: colours.
Melinda Dyson: point five and you make i and then you can make uh the spec single curve, for example.
Kristy Chavez: But the colours. Um how ma uh the colours like l she told, is that all the colours we add or
Melinda Dyson: How d uh uh how many
Darlene Dwight: What
Melinda Dyson: colours?
Darlene Dwight: do you mean?
Melinda Dyson: Special colours, all the colours you want, because
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but
Melinda Dyson: you
Kristy Chavez: we
Melinda Dyson: want
Kristy Chavez: we
Melinda Dyson: to make
Kristy Chavez: we
Melinda Dyson: p
Kristy Chavez: are we have yellow, red, uh black, titanium.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, but uh when you use more than one colour, it's a special colour.
Kristy Chavez: Ah
Darlene Dwight: Oh.
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Darlene Dwight: But I think
Melinda Dyson: I
Darlene Dwight: when
Melinda Dyson: suppose.
Darlene Dwight: you use the colour that's not originally the rubber then you use special colour, 'cause you have
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: to add
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but
Darlene Dwight: it.
Kristy Chavez: the rubbers alls original black.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, so you always lose the special colour. You co you could
Kristy Chavez: Yeah
Darlene Dwight: make
Kristy Chavez: b
Darlene Dwight: it always black,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but
Darlene Dwight: like
Kristy Chavez: we're
Darlene Dwight: normal
Kristy Chavez: gonna make
Darlene Dwight: remote.
Kristy Chavez: it yellow uh red, and then you add you have two special colours on top of the one
Melinda Dyson: Nee
Kristy Chavez: we have now.
Melinda Dyson: we we also want to make
Darlene Dwight: Oh right,
Melinda Dyson: ano another
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: colour.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: we
Kristy Chavez: but
Darlene Dwight: should
Kristy Chavez: m
Darlene Dwight: u Yeah. We have to make this like four or five
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: or something.
Kristy Chavez: because
Darlene Dwight: That's what
Kristy Chavez: we have
Darlene Dwight: it means.
Kristy Chavez: more colours than only black.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: but isn't it
Kristy Chavez: I
Angela Wright: per
Kristy Chavez: then I think
Angela Wright: remote
Kristy Chavez: I p
Angela Wright: that
Kristy Chavez: I don
Angela Wright: you
Kristy Chavez: I
Angela Wright: pay?
Kristy Chavez: don't think they Kristy Chavez mean
Darlene Dwight: Oh right,
Angela Wright: Half?
Kristy Chavez: they're special
Darlene Dwight: yeah. Is it per remote?
Angela Wright: I think
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: you pay half per remote.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, that's right,
Angela Wright: So
Darlene Dwight: and
Angela Wright: each
Darlene Dwight: you
Angela Wright: remote
Darlene Dwight: one colour
Angela Wright: with
Darlene Dwight: per
Angela Wright: a special
Darlene Dwight: remote.
Angela Wright: colour.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, indeed,
Darlene Dwight: So then
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: it is one.
Melinda Dyson: You don't need four of those
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: uh
Kristy Chavez: okay
Melinda Dyson: four
Kristy Chavez: okay,
Melinda Dyson: of
Kristy Chavez: true.
Melinda Dyson: those special colours in one
Kristy Chavez: True,
Melinda Dyson: in
Kristy Chavez: true.
Melinda Dyson: one remote.
Darlene Dwight: No.
Angela Wright: I
Kristy Chavez: We
Angela Wright: hope.
Kristy Chavez: have two points spare.
Angela Wright: So the
Kristy Chavez: Nee
Angela Wright: battery,
Kristy Chavez: one point.
Angela Wright: we
Darlene Dwight: One.
Angela Wright: have um advanced chip on print.
Darlene Dwight: So it would be curved, single curve.
Angela Wright: Because of thing
Darlene Dwight: Or not?
Angela Wright: Yeah, well
Melinda Dyson: Hmm.
Angela Wright: you can at least make it curved again.
Darlene Dwight: So
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: y
Melinda Dyson: single
Darlene Dwight: you just
Melinda Dyson: curve.
Darlene Dwight: can't make a nice remote.
Angela Wright: Because that was
Darlene Dwight: It's
Angela Wright: very important,
Darlene Dwight: too
Angela Wright: huh?
Darlene Dwight: bad for the speaker.
Angela Wright: So it's curved, it's still that so we we dropped the speech recognition
Darlene Dwight: Should
Kristy Chavez: Mm
Darlene Dwight: we
Angela Wright: together
Darlene Dwight: change
Kristy Chavez: yep.
Angela Wright: with
Darlene Dwight: that
Angela Wright: the speaker.
Darlene Dwight: tha that that's a one if not, or
Angela Wright: We
Darlene Dwight: not?
Angela Wright: dropped the scroll wheel.
Darlene Dwight: Could you copy it? And
Angela Wright: And
Darlene Dwight: make
Angela Wright: the rest
Darlene Dwight: it uh
Angela Wright: is the same, huh?
Kristy Chavez: Y yea the
Angela Wright: Am I right? Yes.
Kristy Chavez: scroll wheel
Darlene Dwight: The
Kristy Chavez: is
Darlene Dwight: entire
Kristy Chavez: dropped.
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Kristy Chavez: Yep.
Melinda Dyson: Huh.
Darlene Dwight: Perhaps you can then copy page or so. Ooh.
Darlene Dwight: No.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Oh you you made the entire could you
Melinda Dyson: Undo, undo. Undo.
Darlene Dwight: Oh not Well.
Melinda Dyson: So, 'kay. Twenty minutes?
Darlene Dwight: Would you? By the Perhaps you can save this one, and then copy or something. Add it copy page. Select all.
Angela Wright: No, but you c yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Alright, something went wrong.
Kristy Chavez: Tap.
Angela Wright: Okay, but this this new remote
Darlene Dwight: It
Angela Wright: we
Darlene Dwight: doesn't
Angela Wright: can afford.
Darlene Dwight: work. Let's forget.
Kristy Chavez: It should've work.
Melinda Dyson: Okay, so you had this list at start?
Angela Wright: Hmm?
Melinda Dyson: Alright.
Angela Wright: No,
Melinda Dyson: When
Angela Wright: I hadn't.
Melinda Dyson: did you receive this list?
Angela Wright: I just received it.
Melinda Dyson: Ah okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Oh ignore
Angela Wright: They
Darlene Dwight: that.
Angela Wright: don't work so hard at the finance department.
Melinda Dyson: Ah okay. I
Darlene Dwight: Well, so
Melinda Dyson: suppose this is a Okay, so
Darlene Dwight: Too
Melinda Dyson: we
Darlene Dwight: bad.
Melinda Dyson: lose the scroll wheel,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: the s
Darlene Dwight: The microphone.
Angela Wright: Yeah, and that's it.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: And the microphone.
Darlene Dwight: A and we changed something, I guess, or not? We Oh no.
Kristy Chavez: Yep.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Angela Wright: Twelve Euro fifty. Um and did you try to make a new design, or what
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, I tried
Angela Wright: were you trying
Darlene Dwight: to copy
Angela Wright: to do?
Darlene Dwight: that one, but it didn't work.
Angela Wright: It didn't work.
Darlene Dwight: So we could fix it like tha that it's like this.
Angela Wright: Hmm. Strange.
Darlene Dwight: You could select it all, but then
Melinda Dyson: Strange.
Darlene Dwight: you can't erase.
Angela Wright: Oh, you
Melinda Dyson: You
Angela Wright: can
Melinda Dyson: can only re
Angela Wright: arrange
Melinda Dyson: erase?
Darlene Dwight: Erase.
Melinda Dyson: Oh.
Darlene Dwight: When you saw th li uh Earlier when we selected it, w
Melinda Dyson: Uh,
Darlene Dwight: I couldn't erase anything.
Melinda Dyson: no.
Angela Wright: Hmm, can't you then just say copy?
Melinda Dyson: Bling.
Angela Wright: New page. Paste. Yes.
Melinda Dyson: Ah.
Angela Wright: Select none.
Darlene Dwight: Just
Melinda Dyson: just
Kristy Chavez: just
Melinda Dyson: up
Darlene Dwight: tap
Melinda Dyson: somewhere
Kristy Chavez: tap
Melinda Dyson: b uh
Darlene Dwight: somewhere.
Kristy Chavez: somewhere.
Melinda Dyson: besides it, right.
Angela Wright: Okay,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: and now you can erase.
Darlene Dwight: I don't think I can, but uh we can try.
Melinda Dyson: Uh,
Angela Wright: Well
Melinda Dyson: we already
Angela Wright: it
Melinda Dyson: try.
Angela Wright: should be possible.
Darlene Dwight: Oh, yeah, no,
Angela Wright: Oh
Darlene Dwight: ha-ha.
Angela Wright: no. Well
Kristy Chavez: No?
Angela Wright: you can draw over it with white
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Angela Wright: uh
Darlene Dwight: we
Angela Wright: pen.
Darlene Dwight: tried it earlier.
Angela Wright: Oh.
Darlene Dwight: It's very much work.
Angela Wright: Yeah. Sorry. Well but that's also useful for the evaluation, because I think uh we
Kristy Chavez: Evaluation
Angela Wright: have a prototype
Kristy Chavez: drops.
Angela Wright: now which we can afford and uh we only need to draw a little bit to get a good uh design. Doodle. And I think we should then move on to the production evaluation because of the time.
Kristy Chavez: And erase the mic.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, goodbye mic.
Melinda Dyson: All I need is no mic.
Angela Wright: Let's see,
Darlene Dwight: Oh, I
Angela Wright: we
Darlene Dwight: already erased
Angela Wright: can
Darlene Dwight: half of the line.
Angela Wright: save this now.
Melinda Dyson: Bon chance
Angela Wright: And move back to here.
Darlene Dwight: Too bad, oh.
Darlene Dwight: Like this?
Angela Wright: Mm-hmm.
Darlene Dwight: Still looks nice.
Angela Wright: And then all green. Okay, well thank you.
Darlene Dwight: Oh,
Kristy Chavez: Looks
Darlene Dwight: that's
Kristy Chavez: like a
Darlene Dwight: erase.
Kristy Chavez: iPod.
Angela Wright: Oh, no.
Melinda Dyson: No,
Angela Wright: Hey,
Melinda Dyson: add
Angela Wright: but you can erase that.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, that's a bit
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: weird.
Angela Wright: Uh-oh.
Darlene Dwight: Oh,
Melinda Dyson: S
Darlene Dwight: now
Melinda Dyson: Difference
Darlene Dwight: I'm line.
Melinda Dyson: between lines and text and the pen.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Oh.
Angela Wright: Right.
Kristy Chavez: All I need is mic.
Angela Wright: And you can't erase this? Hmm,
Darlene Dwight: No,
Angela Wright: strange.
Darlene Dwight: it's weird.
Angela Wright: Okay, well uh just leave it at this and
Kristy Chavez: Station
Angela Wright: quickly save.
Kristy Chavez: page.
Angela Wright: Um
Melinda Dyson: Huh,
Angela Wright: and
Melinda Dyson: looks
Angela Wright: then
Melinda Dyson: fucking
Angela Wright: we
Melinda Dyson: boring
Angela Wright: are going
Melinda Dyson: now.
Angela Wright: to the project or product evaluation. We just did our project evaluation. Um well, I think I can sit for that since it's almost my final slide. Um what did you think about uh the process? How satisfied are we?
Melinda Dyson: Deadlines were sometimes very short.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Mm-hmm.
Darlene Dwight: Bu but stressful.
Melinda Dyson: But
Darlene Dwight: You think,
Melinda Dyson: And
Darlene Dwight: no,
Melinda Dyson: stressful.
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: my presentation isn't ready.
Kristy Chavez: I think we it should be b it would be better if we worked a little bit together.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Now
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: we worked through each other,
Angela Wright: And you could
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: something
Angela Wright: ask
Darlene Dwight: you had information
Kristy Chavez: he
Angela Wright: things.
Kristy Chavez: said
Darlene Dwight: I didn't
Kristy Chavez: yeah,
Darlene Dwight: have and
Kristy Chavez: and
Darlene Dwight: then
Kristy Chavez: you
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: had information I also had,
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Kristy Chavez: so
Darlene Dwight: right.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: some some things I had
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: in my presentation, they already told, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: And for Kristy Chavez it sometimes was a surprise who was going to present what, huh?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: And
Kristy Chavez: So
Angela Wright: uh
Kristy Chavez: yeah, that I don't think that is the best way to work
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: at
Darlene Dwight: No.
Kristy Chavez: for such
Angela Wright: So you would
Kristy Chavez: project.
Angela Wright: say uh communicate during our individual
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Angela Wright: uh
Kristy Chavez: no, or
Angela Wright: work.
Kristy Chavez: maybe session of five minutes together or something, and then work
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: separate.
Melinda Dyson: but
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: but why not work here together,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: for
Darlene Dwight: you
Melinda Dyson: example?
Darlene Dwight: could
Melinda Dyson: Why should we be separated from each other
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: in those difference uh different
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: rooms?
Angela Wright: Mm-hmm. Well,
Darlene Dwight: I think
Angela Wright: probably
Darlene Dwight: so too.
Angela Wright: to simulate the whole working uh
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but then you
Angela Wright: process,
Darlene Dwight: can work
Angela Wright: huh,
Darlene Dwight: together
Angela Wright: th you
Darlene Dwight: too when
Angela Wright: can't have a meeting uh for
Kristy Chavez: Yeah m yeah,
Angela Wright: several
Kristy Chavez: like she
Angela Wright: weeks.
Kristy Chavez: told. Then you can work together too by mail or by, I dunno, chat, something,
Melinda Dyson: Huh, oh
Kristy Chavez: but now
Angela Wright: No.
Melinda Dyson: right.
Darlene Dwight: A chat
Kristy Chavez: we're
Darlene Dwight: would also
Kristy Chavez: completely
Darlene Dwight: be uh
Kristy Chavez: separated from each other. I don't think that was the best way, but
Melinda Dyson: But the technology was uh fantastic.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, the technology's
Darlene Dwight: Well,
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Darlene Dwight: I I don't really like the board, it doesn't really work
Melinda Dyson: Work
Darlene Dwight: great.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah
Melinda Dyson: now?
Kristy Chavez: okay, but I don
Darlene Dwight: Sometimes
Kristy Chavez: I do
Darlene Dwight: I think.
Kristy Chavez: I think becau that's
Melinda Dyson: Perhaps
Kristy Chavez: because
Melinda Dyson: it is e
Darlene Dwight: It does work, but sometimes it doesn't erase
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: or it doesn't
Melinda Dyson: perhaps
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: it is easier to get one of those uh dig digital pens or so and
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: to uh and lay it next to that keyboard over
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: there. So you
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: can draw
Kristy Chavez: like
Melinda Dyson: uh
Kristy Chavez: the
Melinda Dyson: see
Kristy Chavez: f
Melinda Dyson: it
Kristy Chavez: like
Melinda Dyson: over
Kristy Chavez: a
Melinda Dyson: th on the screen.
Kristy Chavez: plotters
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: or
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: something, yeah. Yep yep yep yep yep.
Angela Wright: So
Darlene Dwight: But
Angela Wright: you don't think the SMARTboard is is really useful or
Melinda Dyson: It's
Darlene Dwight: Well
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: useful,
Darlene Dwight: it is
Kristy Chavez: it
Darlene Dwight: useful,
Kristy Chavez: is useful,
Melinda Dyson: but not
Darlene Dwight: but
Kristy Chavez: but
Melinda Dyson: m
Darlene Dwight: it doesn't really work all the
Kristy Chavez: No.
Darlene Dwight: time.
Melinda Dyson: Because
Darlene Dwight: Th
Melinda Dyson: when you
Darlene Dwight: the
Melinda Dyson: put this
Darlene Dwight: pen
Melinda Dyson: pen
Darlene Dwight: doesn't
Melinda Dyson: on the screen uh uh
Darlene Dwight: The
Melinda Dyson: for
Darlene Dwight: line
Melinda Dyson: exam
Darlene Dwight: is
Melinda Dyson: and
Darlene Dwight: a bit off.
Melinda Dyson: line is d being drawn at at two or three centimetres uh below.
Angela Wright: Yeah, so it's maybe a bit unnatural
Kristy Chavez: Yep.
Melinda Dyson: Alright.
Angela Wright: also.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, you can point to where you want the line to be. But
Melinda Dyson: The project uh because of the deadlines you didn't had the time to uh have, you didn't have time to uh to make a very uh qualitati qualitative uh presentation.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: So you used uh this uh the different PowerPoint presentations uh in which you put your uh material in the Oh.
Angela Wright: That wasn't Kristy Chavez. Uh
Melinda Dyson: Wasn't Kristy Chavez.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: so um the means, we discussed the smart board, and what about uh this digital pen?
Darlene Dwight: I
Kristy Chavez: I didn't use it at all.
Darlene Dwight: I I used it, it it was you can use it, it's quite handy
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: But
Darlene Dwight: I
Melinda Dyson: I
Darlene Dwight: think.
Melinda Dyson: didn't
Angela Wright: well
Melinda Dyson: I uh
Angela Wright: I use it as a a normal pen and and and only you use it to uh
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, I used it to
Angela Wright: get
Darlene Dwight: y
Angela Wright: it
Darlene Dwight: to
Angela Wright: on the computer, huh?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, it did work
Melinda Dyson: I
Darlene Dwight: pretty
Melinda Dyson: used
Darlene Dwight: well.
Melinda Dyson: it too, but oh well.
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: didn't
Darlene Dwight: I don't think
Kristy Chavez: use.
Darlene Dwight: why you would want to use it
Melinda Dyson: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: No
Melinda Dyson: because
Darlene Dwight: actually,
Kristy Chavez: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: it
Darlene Dwight: but
Melinda Dyson: shou
Darlene Dwight: it it does work.
Melinda Dyson: To
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: make some
Kristy Chavez: It
Melinda Dyson: designs,
Kristy Chavez: is it
Melinda Dyson: it
Kristy Chavez: is
Melinda Dyson: is
Kristy Chavez: yeah,
Melinda Dyson: very
Kristy Chavez: it
Melinda Dyson: easy.
Kristy Chavez: is easy for to design something and
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: then load it in your computer.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, and then you can show it to everybody.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: But to write it th yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah. It's
Darlene Dwight: It doesn't
Kristy Chavez: b
Darlene Dwight: really
Kristy Chavez: bi
Darlene Dwight: write
Kristy Chavez: little bit
Darlene Dwight: normally.
Kristy Chavez: too big to write.
Darlene Dwight: It's a bit
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, it's too big, it's too fat.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Fat document, those.
Angela Wright: Okay, um and what about the teamwork?
Kristy Chavez: Team work was okay.
Darlene Dwight: I think it was great,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: yeah.
Angela Wright: well I think so too.
Kristy Chavez: Only thing
Angela Wright: we
Kristy Chavez: that we worked through, past each other.
Melinda Dyson: Right.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: With some things
Angela Wright: but that
Kristy Chavez: that
Angela Wright: was
Kristy Chavez: was only problem,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: but
Darlene Dwight: but it
Angela Wright: it
Darlene Dwight: was
Angela Wright: was
Darlene Dwight: because
Angela Wright: our assignment,
Darlene Dwight: we didn't uh
Angela Wright: huh?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah yeah yeah, but furthermore
Angela Wright: Okay, and maybe I
Kristy Chavez: better.
Angela Wright: should walk out of the room when you discuss uh this point, the leadership.
Kristy Chavez: That's
Darlene Dwight: I thought it was good, but
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: yeah,
Darlene Dwight: uh Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: no prob. Ah.
Angela Wright: Yeah well,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: okay.
Melinda Dyson: Not too much, not too too too
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: too.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Okay.
Angela Wright: And creativity? Well, when we look at this I'd say we have been creative, huh? But
Darlene Dwight: Well.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, or the room for it
Angela Wright: There
Melinda Dyson: was
Angela Wright: was
Melinda Dyson: the idea
Angela Wright: room
Melinda Dyson: to
Angela Wright: for
Melinda Dyson: be creative, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: You got some standard ideas in your head
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm.
Melinda Dyson: and this what came
Darlene Dwight: And
Melinda Dyson: out.
Darlene Dwight: you get get stuff from the
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: from the computer, but
Melinda Dyson: The information uh was sometimes uh a
Kristy Chavez: Little bit uh
Melinda Dyson: little
Kristy Chavez: lo
Melinda Dyson: bit too late
Kristy Chavez: yeah.
Melinda Dyson: or
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Too late it it it
Darlene Dwight: You just
Kristy Chavez: took
Darlene Dwight: sit
Kristy Chavez: a lot
Darlene Dwight: there
Kristy Chavez: of
Darlene Dwight: for
Kristy Chavez: time
Darlene Dwight: ten
Kristy Chavez: before
Darlene Dwight: minutes.
Kristy Chavez: you got your
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: ema yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, where is that
Kristy Chavez: I played
Darlene Dwight: email?
Kristy Chavez: I think seven times Solitaire something.
Angela Wright: You did? Well,
Darlene Dwight: Oh
Angela Wright: I didn't have
Darlene Dwight: did you?
Angela Wright: time
Darlene Dwight: Is
Angela Wright: for
Darlene Dwight: it
Angela Wright: that.
Darlene Dwight: on there?
Kristy Chavez: Wha
Darlene Dwight: Is it on there? I didn't find the
Angela Wright: At
Kristy Chavez: Oh
Angela Wright: some
Darlene Dwight: didn't
Kristy Chavez: right,
Angela Wright: times
Kristy Chavez: it is
Angela Wright: I
Darlene Dwight: look
Kristy Chavez: there.
Darlene Dwight: but uh I
Angela Wright: Sometimes
Melinda Dyson: Was
Angela Wright: I
Melinda Dyson: searching
Angela Wright: received
Melinda Dyson: and searching.
Angela Wright: like like five
Darlene Dwight: didn't
Angela Wright: emails
Darlene Dwight: look, but
Angela Wright: at at one moment,
Kristy Chavez: No,
Angela Wright: and then
Kristy Chavez: I I never got that.
Darlene Dwight: I
Kristy Chavez: I
Darlene Dwight: got like
Kristy Chavez: always
Darlene Dwight: one email after ten minutes or something.
Kristy Chavez: N yeah.
Angela Wright: I even got spam. Or something like that.
Darlene Dwight: That's what we
Kristy Chavez: So
Darlene Dwight: said.
Kristy Chavez: does this I think lik oh and information was a bit low I think,
Darlene Dwight: And
Kristy Chavez: sometimes,
Darlene Dwight: it not a lot
Kristy Chavez: in in
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: in in the beginning I didn't understand what what to do.
Darlene Dwight: No, the
Melinda Dyson: No,
Darlene Dwight: first
Melinda Dyson: w
Darlene Dwight: one.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: I
Darlene Dwight: I
Melinda Dyson: didn't
Darlene Dwight: didn't
Kristy Chavez: like
Melinda Dyson: know
Darlene Dwight: know
Kristy Chavez: I
Darlene Dwight: uh
Kristy Chavez: with with the remote and I never new we have t we had
Melinda Dyson: Make
Kristy Chavez: to uh
Melinda Dyson: a r yeah.
Kristy Chavez: yeah made
Darlene Dwight: nee.
Kristy Chavez: a made a rec a remote control.
Darlene Dwight: And I didn't know what to do for the first ten minutes before
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: we got here,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: so I
Kristy Chavez: so
Darlene Dwight: went, right.
Melinda Dyson: No stepping on the table and then
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: looking at the internet
Angela Wright: And I
Darlene Dwight: Just
Angela Wright: was
Darlene Dwight: looking
Melinda Dyson: page.
Angela Wright: working
Darlene Dwight: at the
Angela Wright: and
Darlene Dwight: screen
Angela Wright: working
Darlene Dwight: and
Angela Wright: and work
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: No.
Angela Wright: Okay,
Kristy Chavez: So, yeah.
Angela Wright: well um but after all we can say uh we are satisfied, but it it could've been uh better.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: When we get uh when we have we would have gotten uh more information.
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, more
Kristy Chavez: Faster.
Melinda Dyson: information
Darlene Dwight: an
Melinda Dyson: about the costs.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, that will be handy.
Melinda Dyson: First of all I didn't think uh that we were able to make an L_C_D_ screen uh first point, but uh it
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: was possible uh
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, it only
Melinda Dyson: uh,
Kristy Chavez: costs four units. Uh
Melinda Dyson: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Yea
Kristy Chavez: yeah.
Darlene Dwight: uh
Angela Wright: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: so tha actually you could make an L_C_D_ screen but no mic, or it could make mic but no L_C_D_
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: screen,
Angela Wright: that
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: was a bit
Darlene Dwight: when you
Angela Wright: mean
Darlene Dwight: look at
Angela Wright: to
Darlene Dwight: that.
Angela Wright: put
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: it in the end. And uh what were the other points to to improve this whole
Darlene Dwight: Uh,
Angela Wright: process?
Kristy Chavez: Um
Darlene Dwight: I dunno.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Think that's about it.
Kristy Chavez: Nothing.
Darlene Dwight: Hmm.
Kristy Chavez: I think we got it
Darlene Dwight: Heavier
Kristy Chavez: already.
Darlene Dwight: um less heavy laptops.
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Angela Wright: they're
Melinda Dyson: Faster
Angela Wright: pretty heavy.
Melinda Dyson: laptop.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Uh. They
Darlene Dwight: But
Melinda Dyson: were
Darlene Dwight: that's not
Melinda Dyson: they
Darlene Dwight: really
Melinda Dyson: were just
Kristy Chavez: And
Darlene Dwight: uh
Melinda Dyson: fine.
Kristy Chavez: furthermore the the the network was okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Everything
Melinda Dyson: Uh.
Kristy Chavez: you loaded was also
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, everything
Kristy Chavez: av available
Darlene Dwight: worked.
Kristy Chavez: there.
Melinda Dyson: Right.
Angela Wright: And
Kristy Chavez: So
Angela Wright: so more time uh w might have improved the the quality of work,
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Angela Wright: is what
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: you say. Okay.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, but that It's now half past four half past three, so
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but it's just the the off hours between
Kristy Chavez: Yeah,
Darlene Dwight: that
Kristy Chavez: okay.
Darlene Dwight: you will work alone.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah, okay.
Darlene Dwight: Then it pops up pop up screen came.
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hm.
Darlene Dwight: Five
Kristy Chavez: Mm.
Darlene Dwight: minutes in the meeting.
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Mm.
Darlene Dwight: No.
Angela Wright: Okay, so more time during the individual work phases.
Darlene Dwight: Huh.
Angela Wright: Um okay well uh I just got my warning for the last five minutes,
Darlene Dwight: You
Angela Wright: so
Darlene Dwight: did?
Angela Wright: I'll
Darlene Dwight: Well
Angela Wright: move on to I guess my last slide, yes, which is the closing. Well uh, we managed, but we did it very quickly. I don't know if that's the best way to when it isn't is it when it is too expensive to quickly re-arrange it
Darlene Dwight: Oh,
Angela Wright: and say, okay,
Darlene Dwight: right.
Angela Wright: this is it, but we
Darlene Dwight: Well
Angela Wright: had to do it, huh, because we have to have a design, and that is within the budget. And we evaluated. Maybe we should re-evaluate uh the product, but we did that before, and we also evaluated the project. And I think uh everybody's uh very happy. At least I am, with the results, so
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Angela Wright: uh celebration,
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: well, for the three of you,
Darlene Dwight: Champagne.
Angela Wright: because uh I have to write the final report now. But uh well, thank you very much for
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: your co-operation, and I had
Melinda Dyson: Yeah, sure.
Angela Wright: a very
Kristy Chavez: No prob.
Angela Wright: nice day so far.
Melinda Dyson: Oh thank
Kristy Chavez: Mm-hmm.
Melinda Dyson: you.
Angela Wright: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Do we get another email?
Melinda Dyson: Bling.
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: You're fired.
Kristy Chavez: think
Angela Wright: Um
Kristy Chavez: you do.
Darlene Dwight: I I think we have to fill in a questionnaire again, but
Angela Wright: Yeah I have t I think we also have to go to our own rooms again, but
Darlene Dwight: We do?
Melinda Dyson: Mm.
Angela Wright: um well I at least. But maybe you can try uh to make a screen shot of this, so I can try
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: to include it in the final report.
Darlene Dwight: Uh th that that one?
Melinda Dyson: You cannot you
Angela Wright: Yeah,
Melinda Dyson: can save
Darlene Dwight: You
Melinda Dyson: it.
Darlene Dwight: can
Angela Wright: maybe.
Darlene Dwight: just
Angela Wright: wants
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, but it's
Angela Wright: to,
Darlene Dwight: it
Angela Wright: but
Darlene Dwight: isn't
Angela Wright: at least
Darlene Dwight: a picture
Angela Wright: this one.
Darlene Dwight: or, well, is
Angela Wright: I
Darlene Dwight: it?
Angela Wright: know,
Melinda Dyson: You s
Angela Wright: we
Melinda Dyson: uh
Angela Wright: should remove
Melinda Dyson: file
Angela Wright: this,
Melinda Dyson: save
Angela Wright: but it won't
Melinda Dyson: as the
Angela Wright: h
Melinda Dyson: J_ PEG
Angela Wright: Okay.
Melinda Dyson: J_ PEG.
Angela Wright: And uh please put it in the project folder then, huh.
Kristy Chavez: Can you find it as a J_ PEG?
Melinda Dyson: No.
Darlene Dwight: No, isn't possible. But you can make a screen shot, I think.
Angela Wright: Okay, well I uh
Kristy Chavez: No.
Melinda Dyson: No.
Angela Wright: I hereby officially close the meeting
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Angela Wright: and uh I hope to see you uh soon.
Kristy Chavez: In
Melinda Dyson: In
Darlene Dwight: Uh
Melinda Dyson: about five
Darlene Dwight: oh,
Melinda Dyson: minutes.
Kristy Chavez: uh
Darlene Dwight: export.
Angela Wright: Well, I think we'll be a bit a
Melinda Dyson: Ah.
Angela Wright: bit longer, but okay. Well, happy celebration, huh?
Melinda Dyson: Oh thank you.
Darlene Dwight: Images.
Melinda Dyson: Whoo-hoo. Let's
Kristy Chavez: Celebra
Melinda Dyson: let's have party.
Kristy Chavez: Or
Darlene Dwight: How big do you want
Melinda Dyson: Let's
Darlene Dwight: the images?
Melinda Dyson: have some fun.
Kristy Chavez: shouldn't I?
Angela Wright: How big?
Melinda Dyson: Huh?
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Angela Wright: Uh not too big.
Darlene Dwight: This one?
Kristy Chavez: Six
Angela Wright: Whatever
Kristy Chavez: hundred.
Angela Wright: you think
Kristy Chavez: No,
Angela Wright: is good.
Kristy Chavez: I yeah.
Melinda Dyson: No that uh is one
Kristy Chavez: I
Melinda Dyson: thousand
Kristy Chavez: think
Melinda Dyson: twenty
Kristy Chavez: eight hundred
Melinda Dyson: four.
Kristy Chavez: six hundred is better.
Darlene Dwight: This one?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah. If it browse.
Kristy Chavez: Nah, name.
Darlene Dwight: Um
Melinda Dyson: Desktop.
Darlene Dwight: Well it isn't on the desktop.
Kristy Chavez: Hey.
Melinda Dyson: Mm? I do not know.
Darlene Dwight: You can only save it in my documents.
Melinda Dyson: Oh?
Kristy Chavez: Oh my God.
Melinda Dyson: Yeah.
Darlene Dwight: Oh. Oh, alright. Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah. Yeah. Three. Can
Kristy Chavez: Ten.
Darlene Dwight: we stay here?
Kristy Chavez: Yeah. Ten.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Kristy Chavez: Uh.
Melinda Dyson: Okay.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah, alright. Why can't we stay here?
Melinda Dyson: Alright.
Darlene Dwight: Yeah.
Melinda Dyson: Oh.
Kristy Chavez: Celebration time, come on.
Melinda Dyson: Oh.
Kristy Chavez: Peace out nigger. Entree | Angela Wright opened the meeting and then Darlene Dwight and industrial designer presented their prototype for the remote which featured an LCD screen, a scroll button, and a battery indicator. Kristy Chavez conducted a project evaluation of the prototype. The team found the remote to be fancy, innovative, fairly easy to use, available in different colors, fairly spongy, difficult to misplace, and targeted to younger people. Angela Wright then led the team in calculating the production costs of their remote. The team had difficulty in meeting the the target cost and had to eliminate some of the more expensive components they had hoped to include in their design. Angela Wright then led the team in an evaluation of the project process. The team found the project stressful, the equipment useful, the information available to them lacking, and their laptops to be slow and heavy. | 2 | amisum | test |
Patricia Griffin: Hello. 'Kay.
Janice Schmidt: You
Minnie Loree: It's
Janice Schmidt: all saw the newsflash? Or you got the same
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: message?
Norma Tinson: I I just saw it one minute ago
Minnie Loree: I don't
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: When.
Minnie Loree: know.
Norma Tinson: I
Janice Schmidt: sorry.
Norma Tinson: uh
Minnie Loree: I didn't it yet I think.
Patricia Griffin: Newsflash? D
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: did I miss something?
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: I received
Norma Tinson: pretty much.
Janice Schmidt: an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the
Minnie Loree: Hey what's
Janice Schmidt: folder,
Minnie Loree: wrong with my
Janice Schmidt: but
Minnie Loree: computer?
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: Is it unlocked?
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Patricia Griffin: No.
Norma Tinson: Yeah that's my presentation.
Janice Schmidt: Woah. I uh
Minnie Loree: Huh?
Patricia Griffin: Mm.
Janice Schmidt: kind of opened it.
Norma Tinson: Mm?
Minnie Loree: What the
Norma Tinson: Oh
Janice Schmidt: Uh
Norma Tinson: right.
Patricia Griffin: I think you have to uh change
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Patricia Griffin: your desktop uh size.
Norma Tinson: Ooh.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay. Everybody ready?
Minnie Loree: Not
Norma Tinson: Well
Minnie Loree: really. Sorry.
Janice Schmidt: No
Patricia Griffin: computer
Janice Schmidt: no
Patricia Griffin: is
Janice Schmidt: no.
Patricia Griffin: uh not functioning?
Janice Schmidt: Yes yes yes.
Norma Tinson: Alright.
Minnie Loree: Okay. Where
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Minnie Loree: do I find this? I'm not so g display huh?
Patricia Griffin: Uh display. And then uh
Minnie Loree: Appearance?
Patricia Griffin: settings?
Norma Tinson: Huh.
Patricia Griffin: Mm I'm not sure
Norma Tinson: You
Patricia Griffin: I.
Norma Tinson: read the newsflash?
Patricia Griffin: No.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay.
Minnie Loree: No what
Norma Tinson: Hmm.
Minnie Loree: was
Janice Schmidt: Can
Minnie Loree: it
Janice Schmidt: we
Minnie Loree: about?
Janice Schmidt: get started or is there some pressing
Minnie Loree: Yeah my computer is
Janice Schmidt: issue?
Minnie Loree: not functioning properly.
Janice Schmidt: Oh no pressing. Did you plug in the power cable when you come back?
Minnie Loree: Yeah yeah. No but my screen is reduced in size.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: What?
Janice Schmidt: That's difficult. Yeah.
Minnie Loree: Yeah. Feedback.
Norma Tinson: Hmm.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Minnie Loree: Okay.
Norma Tinson: alt delete.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Format.
Janice Schmidt: Format save.
Norma Tinson: So it doesn't draw the attention away.
Minnie Loree: This is
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: dreadful.
Patricia Griffin: I made uh uh my own map.
Minnie Loree: No not
Janice Schmidt: Oh
Minnie Loree: this,
Janice Schmidt: yeah
Minnie Loree: but
Patricia Griffin: It's
Janice Schmidt: sure.
Patricia Griffin: a
Minnie Loree: the task.
Janice Schmidt: You have Playstation also?
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: No. okay. No I just flapped it, closed it, took it here and then this happened.
Minnie Loree: Ah. Uh where was it? In settings? Okay. Alright. Thank you.
Janice Schmidt: Huh.
Minnie Loree: Do you guys like your tasks?
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Minnie Loree: and then
Patricia Griffin: wa wa you actually
Minnie Loree: a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: the information that I need.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: So
Patricia Griffin: But
Minnie Loree: frustrating.
Patricia Griffin: it's not clear what you have to
Minnie Loree: So
Patricia Griffin: to to type
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: uh
Norma Tinson: I I
Patricia Griffin: type
Norma Tinson: had
Patricia Griffin: in your
Norma Tinson: a whole
Patricia Griffin: presentation.
Norma Tinson: idea and then just
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: was typing it and oh. I to do that so
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: switch.
Minnie Loree: exactly. This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Minnie Loree: so
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: Really annoying.
Janice Schmidt: Okay. So there we are again.
Norma Tinson: By your humble P_M_.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Okay this is the agenda. Um we have three presentations, I heard.
Patricia Griffin: Really.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah really. So who wants to start?
Norma Tinson: Yeah that's fine.
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: We have to start it right away?
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Functional?
Janice Schmidt: Uh this is you?
Norma Tinson: Yeah functional requirements.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay.
Norma Tinson: Alright. I'm gonna talk about functional requirements. Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done. Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control. Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire. The findings were um, well you can see them for yourself. They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls. Users think they're ugly. Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users. So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it. Um they are often lost somewhere in the room. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. And they're bad for R_S_I_. I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay. Um
Minnie Loree: Ts
Norma Tinson: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions. Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings, mono, stereo, uh pitch, bass. Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that. Um but they are used. I mean the
Minnie Loree: So they do need to be in the
Norma Tinson: Yeah they
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: do need to be on the on the remote control. I
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Norma Tinson: mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something, you you need to change that. So um
Janice Schmidt: often.
Minnie Loree: By
Norma Tinson: yeah
Minnie Loree: the way my
Norma Tinson: we have
Minnie Loree: T_V_
Norma Tinson: to. We
Minnie Loree: doesn't
Norma Tinson: c we c
Minnie Loree: have an equ equaliser
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Minnie Loree: but
Norma Tinson: I mean w
Minnie Loree: okay.
Norma Tinson: we can't
Janice Schmidt: Next
Norma Tinson: my my
Janice Schmidt: generation
Norma Tinson: T_V_ has,
Janice Schmidt: does.
Minnie Loree: No.
Norma Tinson: but
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Norma Tinson: we we can leave them uh away. Uh most relevant, uh most used functions, uh they speak for themselves I guess. Uh power button, uh channel, volume selection. Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash, and teletext is so outdated that it it's i
Janice Schmidt: N not
Norma Tinson: should
Janice Schmidt: used
Norma Tinson: not
Janice Schmidt: anymore.
Norma Tinson: be used uh any more in the future. So forget this one.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Norma Tinson: Uh channel settings, so for programming uh your channels in in the
Minnie Loree: By
Norma Tinson: right
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: the
Norma Tinson: order.
Minnie Loree: way where did you guys get that newsflash
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: from? I
Norma Tinson: Yeah,
Minnie Loree: didn't
Norma Tinson: on
Minnie Loree: get
Patricia Griffin: I
Minnie Loree: anything.
Patricia Griffin: was wondering
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: on
Patricia Griffin: uh
Norma Tinson: the project uh
Janice Schmidt: Not by mail. I receiv the mail but you don't. So
Norma Tinson: No
Patricia Griffin: But you
Norma Tinson: so it's
Patricia Griffin: you've
Norma Tinson: a text
Patricia Griffin: got more
Norma Tinson: file
Patricia Griffin: information
Norma Tinson: n in the project
Patricia Griffin: than
Norma Tinson: folder. So teletext
Patricia Griffin: uh.
Norma Tinson: can be skipped.
Janice Schmidt: That's in the presentation, so
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Norma Tinson: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control. Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition. Well we got an update for the for the audience. Or the the the targeted group. So it's above forty I guess.
Janice Schmidt: Uh
Norma Tinson: The
Janice Schmidt: below
Norma Tinson: new product?
Janice Schmidt: I believe.
Norma Tinson: Or below
Janice Schmidt: Yeah below forty.
Norma Tinson: because that's pretty relevant.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: I thought I read
Janice Schmidt: Our
Norma Tinson: a
Janice Schmidt: current customers are in the age group forty plus.
Norma Tinson: Yeah?
Janice Schmidt: And the new product should reach new markets, which is
Norma Tinson: Below?
Janice Schmidt: the customers below forty.
Norma Tinson: Okay well
Patricia Griffin: But where did you get
Norma Tinson: that's
Patricia Griffin: uh
Janice Schmidt: That's
Patricia Griffin: that
Janice Schmidt: in
Patricia Griffin: information?
Janice Schmidt: a newsflash.
Norma Tinson: that's in the newsfla okay
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Norma Tinson: that's a good to know. Um because you see see
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: a clear distinction between the age groups, concerning the features. I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition. Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are. So I think we can build that in. Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well, because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features, but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting. Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible. Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them, and stuff like that. So the physical uh aspect of it. Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups, uh nice design, which uh does not make the remote control in your room. It's it's
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: actually a part of your interior, of of your design in your room. So it's the people can say, well what's that, well that's my remote control, so it's d
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: it has to look nice and feel nice, and and have all the functions
Janice Schmidt: But
Norma Tinson: that
Janice Schmidt: it also
Norma Tinson: uh
Janice Schmidt: needs to have corporate identity.
Norma Tinson: Yeah so the the logo has to be uh
Janice Schmidt: Present and the colours.
Norma Tinson: present yeah, and the colours as well.
Janice Schmidt: So we can't change much of that.
Minnie Loree: Do we have
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Minnie Loree: uh
Norma Tinson: so
Minnie Loree: yeah.
Norma Tinson: but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: has to have a colour anyway,
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: and
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: most of the times there is a brand present on it. So
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: I think that's not gonna
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Norma Tinson: gonna affect it very uh very much. Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part.
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Norma Tinson: Yes.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay. It's open already so you can use to
Patricia Griffin: Mm.
Janice Schmidt: find yours.
Patricia Griffin: It's
Janice Schmidt: F_ five.
Patricia Griffin: F_ five. Okay. Oh.
Janice Schmidt: Go Jurgen.
Patricia Griffin: What is this? Oh no. How do I uh
Janice Schmidt: You pressed alt F_ four?
Patricia Griffin: No no no. I pressed the mouse button.
Janice Schmidt: Oh great.
Minnie Loree: It's th that's the self-destruct button.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Uh
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: maybe you can do it from your computer
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: so
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Um
Janice Schmidt: talk
Norma Tinson: Just
Janice Schmidt: us through
Patricia Griffin: if you
Janice Schmidt: it.
Patricia Griffin: all go
Norma Tinson: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: stand around
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: uh Computer
Norma Tinson: Sure.
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Patricia Griffin: Um
Janice Schmidt: That's nice.
Patricia Griffin: No.
Janice Schmidt: F_ five.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Norma Tinson: Alright.
Patricia Griffin: I uh had uh two examples.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: buttons. This
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: the easy one I think we have to to combine them.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: And
Minnie Loree: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Um but yeah the the age is uh under
Janice Schmidt: The
Patricia Griffin: forty?
Janice Schmidt: mm
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Norma Tinson: and
Patricia Griffin: So we
Norma Tinson: and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot
Patricia Griffin: Okay
Norma Tinson: of functions.
Patricia Griffin: so so we have the option
Norma Tinson: So not
Patricia Griffin: for
Norma Tinson: not
Patricia Griffin: more
Norma Tinson: too much
Patricia Griffin: functions.
Norma Tinson: but yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Um yeah.
Minnie Loree: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech
Norma Tinson: the speech recognition yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: alright.
Patricia Griffin: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids. It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options.
Norma Tinson: Yeah from
Patricia Griffin: But
Norma Tinson: age of sixteen
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Norma Tinson: so
Patricia Griffin: but I
Norma Tinson: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah. We have to to make them very easy so
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Patricia Griffin: for just
Minnie Loree: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else, you should use use an uh an advanced option.
Norma Tinson: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device,
Patricia Griffin: Okay
Norma Tinson: only
Patricia Griffin: one
Norma Tinson: your
Patricia Griffin: device.
Norma Tinson: television.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: So
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: n
Patricia Griffin: I
Janice Schmidt: it's
Patricia Griffin: didn't
Norma Tinson: w
Janice Schmidt: very easy.
Patricia Griffin: see.
Janice Schmidt: Now
Patricia Griffin: Okay
Janice Schmidt: yeah
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: it's okay.
Norma Tinson: there are not extra options in this case,
Patricia Griffin: and
Norma Tinson: but
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Norma Tinson: uh
Patricia Griffin: I also uh yeah. W yeah. We have to make it fashionable.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Like
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: you uh said uh before. Uh yeah the basic functions. Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: so maybe you can hide them or something.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options, you can put that in the screen.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: And the
Janice Schmidt: you make
Norma Tinson: and
Janice Schmidt: a
Norma Tinson: the
Janice Schmidt: screen menu or something.
Norma Tinson: yeah screen
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: menu to to to uh
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: to do that, and then the basic function just on the device itself. So it
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: uh
Janice Schmidt: and
Norma Tinson: with
Janice Schmidt: the other
Norma Tinson: a clear
Janice Schmidt: oth
Norma Tinson: menu.
Janice Schmidt: other uh functionality is the screen. What does the screen do?
Norma Tinson: Uh.
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Patricia Griffin: Did I
Norma Tinson: What
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: are
Patricia Griffin: uh
Norma Tinson: wh
Patricia Griffin: did I break
Janice Schmidt: It's
Patricia Griffin: it?
Janice Schmidt: low power.
Norma Tinson: What.
Janice Schmidt: So what does the screen do? They said they needed it but what does it do? What do they want with the screen?
Patricia Griffin: For for the advanced functions I think.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: that's what
Norma Tinson: well
Janice Schmidt: we make
Norma Tinson: it
Janice Schmidt: it up.
Norma Tinson: yeah
Janice Schmidt: So
Norma Tinson: it didn't
Janice Schmidt: but
Norma Tinson: it
Janice Schmidt: what did
Norma Tinson: didn't
Janice Schmidt: the marketing
Norma Tinson: say what they want to do with
Janice Schmidt: No.
Norma Tinson: the screen. Well I, my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: uh
Janice Schmidt: okay it's
Norma Tinson: advanced
Janice Schmidt: handy.
Norma Tinson: functions.
Janice Schmidt: With
Patricia Griffin: Like searching
Janice Schmidt: no predefined
Patricia Griffin: for channels and
Janice Schmidt: uh
Norma Tinson: Yeah searching
Minnie Loree: Ah look.
Norma Tinson: for channels, programming
Minnie Loree: We
Norma Tinson: them.
Minnie Loree: have
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: your uh oh never mind.
Janice Schmidt: We're back online.
Patricia Griffin: Okay. That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Patricia Griffin: Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable, it it the functional functionality will go down. So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: fashionable
Janice Schmidt: Content and form.
Patricia Griffin: yeah
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: content and form.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Now that that was
Janice Schmidt: That was
Patricia Griffin: uh
Janice Schmidt: the end.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: was the end.
Minnie Loree: Okay.
Patricia Griffin: Yes.
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Minnie Loree: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky.
Norma Tinson: Well you can improvise
Janice Schmidt: Uh which one
Norma Tinson: right?
Janice Schmidt: is it? Technical functions?
Minnie Loree: Yeah a little bit. Uh
Janice Schmidt: This one?
Minnie Loree: no. No no.
Janice Schmidt: Functional requirements?
Minnie Loree: Yeah I think that would be it then.
Janice Schmidt: No.
Norma Tinson: So we we
Minnie Loree: I
Norma Tinson: can
Minnie Loree: have
Janice Schmidt: You
Minnie Loree: no
Norma Tinson: go
Janice Schmidt: didn't
Minnie Loree: idea.
Norma Tinson: for
Janice Schmidt: put it in? Or
Minnie Loree: That w.
Janice Schmidt: it's
Minnie Loree: Let Norma Tinson check.
Janice Schmidt: not really English.
Minnie Loree: I know.
Janice Schmidt: Uh kick off. Oh working design I got it.
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example, and then a screen on top of it.
Janice Schmidt: Here you go.
Minnie Loree: Alright how do I uh skip pages?
Janice Schmidt: Just uh press uh yeah.
Minnie Loree: The keys
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: yeah? Alright. Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information. So I was just working off the top of my head and
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls. And well the info on the website which
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: came too late. Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet. So
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting. Those were my uh starting
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: points. Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule, and I was supposed to do it like this. But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow, so I was
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Minnie Loree: trying to organise them for myself. And then make the
Norma Tinson: Design?
Minnie Loree: the
Janice Schmidt: Design
Minnie Loree: design,
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Minnie Loree: a
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: the actual design, but I never came around to do that. So
Norma Tinson: Okay.
Minnie Loree: I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it. I mean everything speaks for itself I guess. Mean you press a button
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: um the it tru goes, it sends a signal to a chip, which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies.
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: frequency. Yeah.
Minnie Loree: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually. And then uh through a uh transformer, it
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Minnie Loree: the
Janice Schmidt: decoder.
Minnie Loree: signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function. Um Yeah well this was actually all I
Janice Schmidt: Blank.
Minnie Loree: got around to do.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Minnie Loree: I mean
Janice Schmidt: okay.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: I
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff, but uh
Janice Schmidt: Work harder.
Patricia Griffin: Okay shou should
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: we make a list
Minnie Loree: Whatever.
Patricia Griffin: of the of all the functions we want
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: uh
Janice Schmidt: Uh
Norma Tinson: Yeah we want to incorporate in
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: uh into it.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay. Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext, only for T_V_. Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty, but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well.
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Janice Schmidt: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control. And we have to decide on the functions, and on the, let's see what was it, uh the target group. We have to make be clear what that is.
Norma Tinson: group of users, or
Janice Schmidt: Yeah users.
Norma Tinson: because it says below forty I mean.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: I guess
Janice Schmidt: so
Norma Tinson: that's that's
Janice Schmidt: I think
Norma Tinson: the tar
Janice Schmidt: it's easy but
Patricia Griffin: But
Norma Tinson: yeah
Patricia Griffin: uh it's
Norma Tinson: uh or male
Patricia Griffin: it's also
Norma Tinson: and female
Patricia Griffin: for children or just
Norma Tinson: Uh
Patricia Griffin: uh
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: six
Janice Schmidt: it's below forty so we
Norma Tinson: the
Janice Schmidt: can
Norma Tinson: marketing
Janice Schmidt: decide
Norma Tinson: research
Janice Schmidt: where
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: to
Norma Tinson: started on s on the age of sixteen. Sixteen
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Norma Tinson: to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five,
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Norma Tinson: thirty five to forty five, something like that. So
Janice Schmidt: So
Norma Tinson: um
Janice Schmidt: below forty is okay. But we need an lower level which to s uh
Norma Tinson: How
Janice Schmidt: focus.
Norma Tinson: do you mean?
Janice Schmidt: So is it from sixteen to forty? Is it from twenty to forty? Is
Norma Tinson: Uh
Janice Schmidt: it from
Norma Tinson: sixteen
Janice Schmidt: thirty?
Norma Tinson: to forty.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah?
Norma Tinson: Well
Patricia Griffin: We we
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay.
Patricia Griffin: have to
Norma Tinson: I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess.
Patricia Griffin: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: to uh sell our product.
Minnie Loree: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions, if you know what I mean. The
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions. But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well, so they need a simpler remote.
Janice Schmidt: Design.
Minnie Loree: And
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Minnie Loree: yeah that you can choose what the design displays, or
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Minnie Loree: wha whatever.
Patricia Griffin: that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions. The the simple functions for for the the whole public,
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: more yeah
Minnie Loree: Experienced
Janice Schmidt: And
Patricia Griffin: experienced
Norma Tinson: But
Janice Schmidt: maybe
Minnie Loree: yeah.
Norma Tinson: uh all
Patricia Griffin: with
Norma Tinson: incorporated
Patricia Griffin: uh
Janice Schmidt: y
Norma Tinson: in the screen or or just
Patricia Griffin: Na
Norma Tinson: on the remote itself?
Patricia Griffin: I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display.
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: a kind
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: of sliding bar and
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals?
Janice Schmidt: So is you should have a menu for all the the functions
Norma Tinson: Uh you can make
Janice Schmidt: you don't
Norma Tinson: a
Janice Schmidt: use regular
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: and which
Norma Tinson: if you
Janice Schmidt: are
Norma Tinson: make a drawing.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Aye yeah.
Norma Tinson: Uh Uh.
Janice Schmidt: Shall I uh
Norma Tinson: Uh black's okay. And draw it very big. Oh.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. It's okay.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: no, it doesn't have line control, so
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah we get the
Norma Tinson: Yeah well, this is basically uh
Minnie Loree: The remote?
Norma Tinson: it's alright
Janice Schmidt: The remote,
Norma Tinson: the remote?
Janice Schmidt: yeah?
Norma Tinson: Um
Janice Schmidt: Basic.
Norma Tinson: well usually the power button
Janice Schmidt: Is on
Norma Tinson: is
Janice Schmidt: top.
Norma Tinson: on top I
Janice Schmidt: Which
Norma Tinson: guess.
Janice Schmidt: should be easy, easily reached with the thumb.
Norma Tinson: Yeah so
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: it should fit right
Patricia Griffin: L left
Norma Tinson: in into
Patricia Griffin: top
Norma Tinson: your
Patricia Griffin: or
Norma Tinson: hand.
Patricia Griffin: right uh top?
Norma Tinson: Right.
Janice Schmidt: T I s should
Minnie Loree: Right
Patricia Griffin: Yeah,
Norma Tinson: Right.
Minnie Loree: top.
Patricia Griffin: right.
Janice Schmidt: said
Norma Tinson: I
Janice Schmidt: right.
Norma Tinson: most people
Janice Schmidt: Because
Norma Tinson: are right-handed so
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Minnie Loree: definitely.
Norma Tinson: maybe left-handed special addition, but okay. If you put it like like here. Or something. I dunno. Um then you could put a screen, like on a mobile phone, also on top I guess.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions, the the basic functions, you normally
Janice Schmidt: Do
Patricia Griffin: press
Janice Schmidt: the
Patricia Griffin: them
Janice Schmidt: also
Patricia Griffin: on the
Janice Schmidt: with the thumb.
Patricia Griffin: u yeah.
Janice Schmidt: So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb, also reach the middle. Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly.
Norma Tinson: Okay so y yeah you have you have it
Janice Schmidt: You
Norma Tinson: in your hand,
Janice Schmidt: you need
Norma Tinson: and the
Janice Schmidt: to
Norma Tinson: screen is below,
Janice Schmidt: be able to hold it so
Norma Tinson: and
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: the buttons are in the middle.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Okay for example if you put the screen here, it's more about the functions now than the
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: than the layout.
Janice Schmidt: okay that's true. Layout. That's
Norma Tinson: Doesn't
Janice Schmidt: for the
Norma Tinson: work too well. It's uh it's bent.
Janice Schmidt: I can't help it.
Patricia Griffin: You broke it.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Man.
Norma Tinson: Right.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah okay.
Norma Tinson: Okay you get it. Uh for example if y if you put all the Right.
Janice Schmidt: You want the normal piece of paper? And you have a pen?
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: And might be
Norma Tinson: Maybe
Minnie Loree: easier
Norma Tinson: this.
Minnie Loree: huh?
Norma Tinson: kind of works.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah?
Norma Tinson: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: the channels, um
Janice Schmidt: Uh.
Norma Tinson: and here one for
Janice Schmidt: And the
Norma Tinson: for
Janice Schmidt: for flipping up
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: and down.
Patricia Griffin: yeah. And volume control.
Norma Tinson: Yeah that that usually uh
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: like
Minnie Loree: I
Norma Tinson: here, here, here, here.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: you have up and down for the for the channels,
Janice Schmidt: And left
Norma Tinson: and left
Janice Schmidt: to right.
Norma Tinson: and right for the volume
Janice Schmidt: And
Norma Tinson: uh
Janice Schmidt: those can also be used for the menu.
Minnie Loree: Yeah exactly. I thought
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: but this is really your department,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: that we need just the functional display
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: and
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Minnie Loree: four
Janice Schmidt: okay
Minnie Loree: cursors.
Janice Schmidt: but this is function
Norma Tinson: And
Janice Schmidt: so
Norma Tinson: you you have
Janice Schmidt: if
Minnie Loree: And
Janice Schmidt: you can use them for multiple
Norma Tinson: most
Janice Schmidt: things
Norma Tinson: of the time you
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: have
Minnie Loree: okay.
Norma Tinson: one button in the middle. It
Janice Schmidt: For
Norma Tinson: says
Janice Schmidt: the menu.
Norma Tinson: menu,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay, to to confirm a a kind
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: of action. So you scroll into it, okay. You select a function like v like uh bass. You just adjust it with these two buttons.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Then okay to confirm, and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level. And then
Minnie Loree: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: finally say okay, exit. Or or one button to exit it.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Uh in one time I dunno, that's not really my department. That's more your uh your department to
Patricia Griffin: And
Norma Tinson: to
Patricia Griffin: do
Norma Tinson: uh
Patricia Griffin: we need
Norma Tinson: to
Patricia Griffin: a a logo on our uh remote control, or
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like
Patricia Griffin: On the left
Norma Tinson: on
Patricia Griffin: uh
Norma Tinson: on top,
Patricia Griffin: top
Norma Tinson: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: yeah.
Norma Tinson: I mean it's uh
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen. But
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: it's essential that there is a screen.
Norma Tinson: Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. And
Norma Tinson: But um
Janice Schmidt: for the speech uh recognition part, if we want to incorporate that, we need a microphone.
Norma Tinson: Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here, should be on top somewhere,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. This
Norma Tinson: maybe.
Janice Schmidt: would be uh
Minnie Loree: Why
Norma Tinson: I
Minnie Loree: did
Norma Tinson: mean
Minnie Loree: we
Norma Tinson: i
Minnie Loree: wanna put the display in the bottom?
Janice Schmidt: No that's not s sure so
Norma Tinson: That's
Minnie Loree: Okay.
Norma Tinson: not sure but
Janice Schmidt: uh
Norma Tinson: it's
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: we need
Patricia Griffin: may
Janice Schmidt: a
Patricia Griffin: maybe
Janice Schmidt: display.
Minnie Loree: Because
Patricia Griffin: because
Minnie Loree: yeah
Patricia Griffin: you're
Minnie Loree: if you use the functions your hand will block the display.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option, you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more
Minnie Loree: Normal
Norma Tinson: lo
Minnie Loree: for logical
Norma Tinson: logical to Norma Tinson. Also
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: t
Norma Tinson: because people use m mobile phones and
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: they also
Janice Schmidt: they're
Norma Tinson: have
Janice Schmidt: used
Norma Tinson: the screen
Janice Schmidt: to it.
Norma Tinson: on top.
Patricia Griffin: Okay the yeah.
Norma Tinson: So
Patricia Griffin: That's possible.
Norma Tinson: you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button.
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: I mean if you grab
Minnie Loree: On
Norma Tinson: it.
Minnie Loree: once it's on it's on.
Norma Tinson: But
Minnie Loree: You don't need
Norma Tinson: most
Minnie Loree: the
Patricia Griffin: Yeah,
Minnie Loree: power
Norma Tinson: most
Minnie Loree: button.
Patricia Griffin: okay.
Norma Tinson: of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel
Patricia Griffin: Okay we put it on top.
Norma Tinson: to put it on. So we put this on top,
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: and then make the corporate logo like over here. R_R_. And j and the microphone, I mean it can be very small. If you look at your mobile phones
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: are some stripes, little little holes.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Minnie Loree: Maybe on the top or even on the side.
Norma Tinson: Yeah maybe on the side. I mean
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: if the if
Janice Schmidt: but
Norma Tinson: the
Janice Schmidt: then
Norma Tinson: microphone
Janice Schmidt: it's possible
Norma Tinson: is
Janice Schmidt: that
Norma Tinson: good.
Janice Schmidt: you cover it with your hand so
Minnie Loree: True.
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: okay. So
Janice Schmidt: I think
Norma Tinson: on
Janice Schmidt: that
Norma Tinson: the on
Janice Schmidt: top
Norma Tinson: the
Janice Schmidt: is
Norma Tinson: top
Janice Schmidt: the best
Norma Tinson: is
Janice Schmidt: option.
Norma Tinson: better.
Minnie Loree: But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this, if you put it on the top on the side I dunno.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah okay.
Minnie Loree: Should be able to
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: work.
Janice Schmidt: Depends
Minnie Loree: Never mind.
Janice Schmidt: on the sensitivity of the microphone,
Minnie Loree: Can we
Janice Schmidt: but
Minnie Loree: leave
Janice Schmidt: I
Minnie Loree: this
Janice Schmidt: think
Minnie Loree: up to
Janice Schmidt: that's
Minnie Loree: you?
Janice Schmidt: okay.
Norma Tinson: Yeah it doesn't matter that much. So but um the screen is on top? Which functions did we have left? I mean this is basically numbers,
Janice Schmidt: Volume.
Norma Tinson: volume, uh channel
Janice Schmidt: Up.
Norma Tinson: up and down.
Janice Schmidt: Channel up and down,
Norma Tinson: Screen
Janice Schmidt: and the control
Norma Tinson: is over
Janice Schmidt: of
Norma Tinson: there.
Janice Schmidt: the advanced options.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: So
Patricia Griffin: If
Janice Schmidt: maybe
Patricia Griffin: we
Janice Schmidt: it, we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen.
Norma Tinson: Yeah. That's uh that's a good one.
Minnie Loree: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right?
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Minnie Loree: Like
Janice Schmidt: so sounds?
Minnie Loree: uh bass uh
Norma Tinson: Sound?
Minnie Loree: so we need kind of an equaliser. If
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: you
Norma Tinson: Equaliser. So if you have sound But not too advanced. I mean most T_V_s use only treble
Patricia Griffin: Yeah it
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: it's
Norma Tinson: and
Janice Schmidt: and
Patricia Griffin: just
Norma Tinson: bass.
Janice Schmidt: they're
Patricia Griffin: a remote control
Minnie Loree: Yeah treble,
Patricia Griffin: so
Janice Schmidt: They're
Minnie Loree: middl
Janice Schmidt: not used
Minnie Loree: middle,
Janice Schmidt: often
Minnie Loree: bass or something.
Janice Schmidt: so
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah. It's uh pretty hard to write.
Minnie Loree: Ah as.
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: Okay
Janice Schmidt: just
Norma Tinson: but you have sound?
Janice Schmidt: Yeah sounds.
Norma Tinson: Yeah just
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Of course.
Norma Tinson: So you have sound.
Janice Schmidt: I'm just a secretary.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Coffee?
Norma Tinson: Uh
Minnie Loree: Yes
Norma Tinson: yeah sound
Minnie Loree: please.
Norma Tinson: and then within sound I guess treble and bass?
Janice Schmidt: Treble bass.
Minnie Loree: the mono stereo option?
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Uh
Norma Tinson: Also.
Minnie Loree: And then
Janice Schmidt: Pitch I believe,
Minnie Loree: pitch.
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Norma Tinson: Pitch. Yeah. But pitch, isn't that yeah that's the the height
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: The fr
Norma Tinson: of the
Minnie Loree: yeah
Norma Tinson: tone.
Minnie Loree: the frequency of the tones, yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah okay,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: wh why
Janice Schmidt: and
Norma Tinson: would you
Janice Schmidt: mono
Norma Tinson: use that?
Janice Schmidt: stereo.
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: If
Minnie Loree: isn't
Norma Tinson: people
Minnie Loree: that
Norma Tinson: like
Minnie Loree: that
Norma Tinson: talk
Minnie Loree: depends
Norma Tinson: like uh
Minnie Loree: on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching.
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: And also the tuning part?
Norma Tinson: Programming part.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah programming.
Norma Tinson: Uh
Janice Schmidt: So channel programming?
Norma Tinson: so we have sound, yeah? Channel programming.
Minnie Loree: And yeah in the functionality of the
Patricia Griffin: Television uh
Minnie Loree: no no
Patricia Griffin: itself
Minnie Loree: of the
Patricia Griffin: uh
Minnie Loree: remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them? As a confirmation
Patricia Griffin: Mm.
Minnie Loree: or whatever
Norma Tinson: Mm.
Minnie Loree: you know? I dunno.
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Norma Tinson: I think it g it gets annoying. I mean
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: most mobile
Patricia Griffin: We
Norma Tinson: phones
Patricia Griffin: we could make
Norma Tinson: used
Patricia Griffin: an option
Norma Tinson: that in the
Patricia Griffin: for
Norma Tinson: beginning
Patricia Griffin: it, but
Norma Tinson: but
Patricia Griffin: uh you can disable
Minnie Loree: Under
Patricia Griffin: s
Minnie Loree: the a yeah advanced option
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: menu you can put those things.
Patricia Griffin: But
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera. So
Janice Schmidt: Contrast yeah.
Patricia Griffin: yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Norma Tinson: with
Janice Schmidt: No.
Norma Tinson: only three buttons
Janice Schmidt: Uh,
Norma Tinson: then it's very hard to
Janice Schmidt: so contrast,
Norma Tinson: y
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: yeah contrast and brightness?
Janice Schmidt: bright,
Norma Tinson: Yeah those are the most
Janice Schmidt: uh
Norma Tinson: used I guess. If
Janice Schmidt: And
Norma Tinson: you look
Janice Schmidt: the others
Norma Tinson: at your
Janice Schmidt: were
Norma Tinson: monitor.
Janice Schmidt: in your presentation right? So I can
Norma Tinson: Well
Janice Schmidt: just copy those?
Norma Tinson: yeah well I guess that these were the only ones, I guess.
Janice Schmidt: Okay. It's easy.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: But so
Norma Tinson: I
Minnie Loree: we have
Norma Tinson: will look
Minnie Loree: we
Norma Tinson: it up.
Minnie Loree: have T_V_ options, which is all this.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah the
Minnie Loree: The
Janice Schmidt: button
Minnie Loree: sound,
Janice Schmidt: options and
Minnie Loree: sound
Janice Schmidt: the
Minnie Loree: and
Janice Schmidt: L_C_D_
Minnie Loree: image.
Janice Schmidt: options.
Minnie Loree: And you have in that uh the
Janice Schmidt: Indeed.
Minnie Loree: indeed the remote control options.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: So we need two menus kind of thing.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah you have basically a button menu, which you can use directly, uh
Minnie Loree: Uh-huh.
Janice Schmidt: according to the old principle. And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options, thats communicates with the infrared
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: uh
Norma Tinson: with the chip
Janice Schmidt: decoder
Norma Tinson: and
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Norma Tinson: then I mean
Janice Schmidt: So you
Norma Tinson: Uh
Janice Schmidt: You have an additional processor and
Norma Tinson: yeah.
Janice Schmidt: and
Norma Tinson: Well
Janice Schmidt: software part.
Norma Tinson: yeah we have
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Janice Schmidt: Compared
Norma Tinson: power button,
Janice Schmidt: to o
Norma Tinson: whether that's present.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: Channel volume selection present. Uh numbers present. Yeah a audio
Janice Schmidt: L_
Norma Tinson: settings,
Janice Schmidt: s
Norma Tinson: mono, stereo, pitch, bass,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: treble. Screen settings, brightness and colour.
Janice Schmidt: Colour. Yeah I
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: I call
Norma Tinson: con
Janice Schmidt: it
Norma Tinson: contrast
Janice Schmidt: contrast.
Norma Tinson: is
Janice Schmidt: Yeah I make it c colour.
Norma Tinson: Yeah okay, colour and brightness.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Um and what you say, channel settings or channel programming? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah and automatically
Norma Tinson: and when it encounters
Janice Schmidt: um
Norma Tinson: one, well it shows on your T_V_.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: remote
Janice Schmidt: so
Norma Tinson: on
Janice Schmidt: I've
Norma Tinson: which
Janice Schmidt: g
Norma Tinson: you want
Janice Schmidt: channel
Norma Tinson: to save
Janice Schmidt: program
Norma Tinson: it.
Janice Schmidt: is autoseek?
Norma Tinson: Yeah, autoseek.
Janice Schmidt: Uh name a channel, or
Norma Tinson: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name, which they get through the cable.
Janice Schmidt: Oh they get automatic names,
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: okay.
Norma Tinson: So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah but
Minnie Loree: Help.
Janice Schmidt: can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or
Norma Tinson: If you already programmed it.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: If you want to move it.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah that should be possible too.
Janice Schmidt: How do you call that?
Norma Tinson: Yeah how do you call that? Mm? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something, which w displays all the all
Janice Schmidt: Channels?
Norma Tinson: the values, all the channels
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: which are possible. I mean like one to
Janice Schmidt: Ninety
Norma Tinson: f thirty
Janice Schmidt: nine or something.
Norma Tinson: of or ninety
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: or whatever. Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if
Janice Schmidt: S
Norma Tinson: it is programmed.
Janice Schmidt: swap channels? Can
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: I call it that?
Norma Tinson: Swap channels.
Janice Schmidt: Swap's good option. Okay. Uh
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: other
Norma Tinson: you
Janice Schmidt: functions?
Norma Tinson: most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five. And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five, um most of the times you override the previous uh the
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: previous one.
Janice Schmidt: Okay. Well that's 's up to uh
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Mister User Interface
Norma Tinson: It's
Janice Schmidt: Designer.
Norma Tinson: it's pretty
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Norma Tinson: uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu
Minnie Loree: working
Norma Tinson: on
Minnie Loree: design.
Norma Tinson: the T_V_.
Minnie Loree: Doch.
Janice Schmidt: Also. That's
Minnie Loree: He only
Janice Schmidt: you're
Minnie Loree: has to figure out how it has to look. And how
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah but also,
Minnie Loree: to use
Janice Schmidt: which buttons you have to press to get a certain result? And
Minnie Loree: Yeah okay. But
Janice Schmidt: the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was, as I believe.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: You did your homework. But um yeah.
Norma Tinson: Or or is
Minnie Loree: Okay.
Norma Tinson: it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote? To programme the channels?
Minnie Loree: No
Janice Schmidt: No
Minnie Loree: no.
Janice Schmidt: I
Patricia Griffin: No
Minnie Loree: It should
Janice Schmidt: don't
Norma Tinson: Uh.
Patricia Griffin: that's
Minnie Loree: be
Janice Schmidt: think
Minnie Loree: able
Janice Schmidt: so.
Minnie Loree: to do
Janice Schmidt: But
Minnie Loree: any remote.
Janice Schmidt: I think the communication with the television is difficult. But that's
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: not our part.
Norma Tinson: No.
Janice Schmidt: We don't have to design a protocol so
Minnie Loree: No.
Norma Tinson: That's true. That's true.
Minnie Loree: Thank god.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Okay
Norma Tinson: So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily. I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem. I mean
Janice Schmidt: No
Norma Tinson: you uh you
Janice Schmidt: that's
Norma Tinson: uh current
Janice Schmidt: the
Norma Tinson: channel and then then it just says, uh on which number do you want to save this, and you just press a number on your remote, and then say confirm, okay, and then it's it's saved. It's easier, it's it's it's harder to, if you have already programmed it,
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: to to swap. So
Janice Schmidt: So
Norma Tinson: we have
Janice Schmidt: but
Norma Tinson: to think of something for
Janice Schmidt: Um
Norma Tinson: that.
Janice Schmidt: Patricia Griffin can design a menu for all these function
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: I put them on
Norma Tinson: k
Janice Schmidt: the.
Patricia Griffin: On
Norma Tinson: kind
Patricia Griffin: the
Norma Tinson: of structure
Patricia Griffin: uh
Norma Tinson: into
Patricia Griffin: yeah can
Norma Tinson: layers.
Patricia Griffin: you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Yeah
Patricia Griffin: and
Janice Schmidt: I can. I'll just try to reorganise uh things.
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen? Uh um
Norma Tinson: And and
Janice Schmidt: I think
Norma Tinson: the layout of of the thing
Janice Schmidt: th
Patricia Griffin: The
Norma Tinson: itself.
Patricia Griffin: the layout
Janice Schmidt: I think
Patricia Griffin: of
Janice Schmidt: the
Patricia Griffin: the
Janice Schmidt: yeah
Patricia Griffin: remote
Janice Schmidt: the layout
Patricia Griffin: control?
Janice Schmidt: of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the.
Patricia Griffin: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface
Janice Schmidt: No I d
Patricia Griffin: part?
Janice Schmidt: I think that's more in.
Minnie Loree: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the
Norma Tinson: Maybe
Minnie Loree: remote
Norma Tinson: more on
Minnie Loree: I think are in my department.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: I have to know what it has to do, so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is, I
Janice Schmidt: Okay.
Minnie Loree: have to integrate
Janice Schmidt: So
Minnie Loree: that
Janice Schmidt: he's
Minnie Loree: in the
Janice Schmidt: layout
Minnie Loree: design.
Janice Schmidt: and you're function.
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Form function okay.
Minnie Loree: I think
Norma Tinson: Okay.
Minnie Loree: that's a that's a good
Patricia Griffin: But
Minnie Loree: separation.
Patricia Griffin: do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also? Or
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: Mm.
Patricia Griffin: Are
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: you going to do that?
Norma Tinson: Yeah I guess
Patricia Griffin: Yeah?
Norma Tinson: so.
Patricia Griffin: I
Janice Schmidt: I
Patricia Griffin: I'm
Janice Schmidt: think
Patricia Griffin: going
Janice Schmidt: i that's
Patricia Griffin: to make
Janice Schmidt: your department
Patricia Griffin: yeah
Janice Schmidt: yes,
Patricia Griffin: o okay.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: because
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: w he
Minnie Loree: we have
Janice Schmidt: already
Minnie Loree: to
Janice Schmidt: knows
Minnie Loree: kind
Janice Schmidt: what
Minnie Loree: of work together.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: If
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: if I make the the
Janice Schmidt: But we're not allowed.
Minnie Loree: the yeah the menu like, I have to state which function has to be in the menu, and then you have to decide, it's,
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: in a in a way that b is user-friendly.
Patricia Griffin: Okay Y. you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: the the screen, the
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: menu screen. And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: with
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: I think yeah.
Norma Tinson: With with
Patricia Griffin: with pages
Norma Tinson: some l
Patricia Griffin: and
Norma Tinson: with some layers in it. So
Patricia Griffin: yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah and also
Norma Tinson: some menus.
Janice Schmidt: make clear which buttons to press to get certain result,
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: because that's always the difficulty. Every device has its own
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Well I guess this this button, the the the okay,
Janice Schmidt: Menu okay.
Norma Tinson: menu
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: okay. Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons. Uh like uh for your mobile phone. Um so this is only for to get in the menu, or to exit it.
Janice Schmidt: Mm.
Norma Tinson: And then one to confirm, and one to go one step
Janice Schmidt: Back.
Norma Tinson: back.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone, if you have a Nokia or like that. Or the or the no button.
Minnie Loree: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons,
Patricia Griffin: Yeah. W
Norma Tinson: but if
Patricia Griffin: we
Norma Tinson: it if it's very clear that they are for the screen
Patricia Griffin: Uh I think we have to to group, to make two groups. Um the one group for the for the display, and one group for the basic functions, and
Minnie Loree: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah but they're incorporated?
Patricia Griffin: Yeah okay
Norma Tinson: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: but
Janice Schmidt: Up
Norma Tinson: because
Patricia Griffin: we
Janice Schmidt: and down
Patricia Griffin: we
Norma Tinson: this
Patricia Griffin: have
Janice Schmidt: is
Patricia Griffin: a
Norma Tinson: this
Patricia Griffin: m
Norma Tinson: is used for both.
Patricia Griffin: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if
Janice Schmidt: Smart?
Patricia Griffin: you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control, you can press the the menu button, and then you are suddenly into the the
Norma Tinson: Into
Patricia Griffin: yeah the
Norma Tinson: your
Patricia Griffin: display.
Norma Tinson: screen. Okay. So you l should
Minnie Loree: You wanna
Norma Tinson: leave
Minnie Loree: separate
Norma Tinson: the menu
Minnie Loree: uh.
Norma Tinson: button out of here.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: And and just
Janice Schmidt: Put
Norma Tinson: put
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: it
Norma Tinson: it
Janice Schmidt: on
Norma Tinson: under
Patricia Griffin: j
Janice Schmidt: top.
Norma Tinson: the screen,
Patricia Griffin: just
Norma Tinson: the screen
Patricia Griffin: just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions.
Janice Schmidt: Mm-hmm.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: So we make a yeah a line between them.
Norma Tinson: But we should place the screen on top, right?
Janice Schmidt: Well
Patricia Griffin: F oh yeah. Okay yeah we swap uh
Janice Schmidt: But
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: that's
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: uh J Jurgen's department.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: So we
Norma Tinson: You
Patricia Griffin: make
Norma Tinson: just
Patricia Griffin: it a
Norma Tinson: you just find out
Janice Schmidt: You just make the layout.
Norma Tinson: and.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: You do we do the extra two buttons or not?
Patricia Griffin: Uh
Minnie Loree: I think you should.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: It's easier. If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: okay. That's true.
Patricia Griffin: So we have a a menu button and a s
Janice Schmidt: And to, okay and back,
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: also.
Patricia Griffin: Okay. Okay and back
Norma Tinson: Yeah,
Patricia Griffin: button.
Norma Tinson: or confirm
Janice Schmidt: And
Norma Tinson: and
Janice Schmidt: of
Norma Tinson: back.
Janice Schmidt: course the four
Norma Tinson: Whatever.
Janice Schmidt: arrows.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: No.
Janice Schmidt: But those are still y doubly used.
Norma Tinson: Should
Janice Schmidt: Both
Norma Tinson: we save
Janice Schmidt: the L_C_D_
Norma Tinson: this picture, or or you know
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Norma Tinson: what it looks
Patricia Griffin: I'm I'm
Norma Tinson: like?
Patricia Griffin: not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons. We have a menu button
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: and
Norma Tinson: That that just to
Patricia Griffin: That's
Norma Tinson: to activate
Patricia Griffin: the the one
Norma Tinson: the screen.
Patricia Griffin: with the yeah okay.
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen.
Norma Tinson: And then with these buttons,
Janice Schmidt: You can navigate.
Norma Tinson: woa, y you navigate.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: But you can also navigate the channels. And
Patricia Griffin: Okay
Janice Schmidt: the volume.
Patricia Griffin: so that that's not uh Yeah
Janice Schmidt: Those
Patricia Griffin: that
Janice Schmidt: are
Patricia Griffin: Those are
Janice Schmidt: both both
Patricia Griffin: multifunctional.
Minnie Loree: Hey
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Minnie Loree: is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: used for the menu are ligh
Norma Tinson: L
Minnie Loree: li
Norma Tinson: l
Minnie Loree: light
Norma Tinson: litten
Minnie Loree: up.
Norma Tinson: up yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: That's very
Janice Schmidt: Oh
Norma Tinson: good idea.
Janice Schmidt: five minutes.
Minnie Loree: N
Norma Tinson: Alright. Yeah that's
Janice Schmidt: Light
Norma Tinson: a good idea
Janice Schmidt: uh
Norma Tinson: because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now, which you can use.
Minnie Loree: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: sure. Okay.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Um
Norma Tinson: So
Janice Schmidt: Anything else?
Norma Tinson: Those buttons are are
Minnie Loree: I think
Norma Tinson: lit
Minnie Loree: not.
Norma Tinson: up. But just one thing. Should we use those two? Them? Or only this to to scroll? And
Janice Schmidt: I've
Norma Tinson: then use the two functional buttons to confirm, to go into something? Oh no we have to use this to adjust
Janice Schmidt: Volume.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: Yeah
Norma Tinson: some
Minnie Loree: keep
Norma Tinson: some
Minnie Loree: it
Norma Tinson: bars?
Minnie Loree: optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: in a in one menu.
Norma Tinson: And maybe we should use this also as an okay button, still. And then just only a back button.
Janice Schmidt: Well we
Patricia Griffin: No
Minnie Loree: The
Janice Schmidt: have
Minnie Loree: pr
Janice Schmidt: those buttons. We
Minnie Loree: the
Janice Schmidt: use
Minnie Loree: problem
Janice Schmidt: all four.
Minnie Loree: with the okay button in the middle is, sorry
Janice Schmidt: Yeah okay
Norma Tinson: Yeah?
Janice Schmidt: go ahead.
Minnie Loree: sorry, uh is uh if you're pressing up and down, you can easily press the okay once you, when
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: you're not already at your
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: choice.
Patricia Griffin: So maybe make one uh one okay button
Norma Tinson: And
Patricia Griffin: and
Norma Tinson: one
Janice Schmidt: Yeah
Norma Tinson: back.
Patricia Griffin: and
Janice Schmidt: that was
Patricia Griffin: one
Janice Schmidt: already
Patricia Griffin: navigation
Janice Schmidt: decided.
Patricia Griffin: button. Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button.
Janice Schmidt: Okay that's what we decided
Patricia Griffin: Yeah
Janice Schmidt: earlier
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: on.
Patricia Griffin: okay.
Janice Schmidt: Right okay.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: So
Minnie Loree: You wanna close down
Janice Schmidt: yeah I wanna close
Minnie Loree: huh?
Janice Schmidt: down.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: I have to, sorry.
Minnie Loree: That's
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: it's
Minnie Loree: okay.
Janice Schmidt: not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break,
Minnie Loree: Already.
Janice Schmidt: and then we can work for thirty minutes, and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: And then uh we'll see
Minnie Loree: Alright. How m how long is the lunchbreak?
Janice Schmidt: I don't know.
Norma Tinson: We have to
Janice Schmidt: Nobody
Norma Tinson: ask.
Janice Schmidt: told Norma Tinson.
Minnie Loree: Okay.
Patricia Griffin: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now? Or first lunchbreak?
Janice Schmidt: No I
Patricia Griffin: Because
Janice Schmidt: th
Patricia Griffin: I
Janice Schmidt: believe there's first lunch break.
Patricia Griffin: I've everything in my head now so
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Or you
Minnie Loree: Mm.
Janice Schmidt: can just
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah?
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay.
Norma Tinson: Yes.
Patricia Griffin: 'Kay.
Janice Schmidt: I think
Minnie Loree: This is
Janice Schmidt: you can put uh the laptop back in the room and
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Norma Tinson: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: Yes sir.
Norma Tinson: Time pressure.
Janice Schmidt: 'Kay. Yeah it's a lot of pressure.
Minnie Loree: Yeah. Sorry for my uh
Janice Schmidt: That's
Minnie Loree: not
Janice Schmidt: okay.
Minnie Loree: finished presentation uh.
Janice Schmidt: Oh
Patricia Griffin: Oh
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: no
Norma Tinson: Yeah we'll kick your ass later. No.
Patricia Griffin: no.
Minnie Loree: Bring it on.
Norma Tinson: Uh.
Janice Schmidt: I
Norma Tinson: Aye
Janice Schmidt: don't know if it works but it
Norma Tinson: Y
Janice Schmidt: should
Norma Tinson: you
Janice Schmidt: be
Norma Tinson: saved
Janice Schmidt: saved.
Norma Tinson: it? Does it save automatically in the project folder? Or
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. It's uh
Norma Tinson: Okay. We'll see. Just
Janice Schmidt: Should
Norma Tinson: put back
Janice Schmidt: be
Norma Tinson: my
Janice Schmidt: here.
Norma Tinson: laptop.
Janice Schmidt: Smart board.
Norma Tinson: Alright.
Janice Schmidt: Don't know if
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: you can use it but
Norma Tinson: Yeah you can open it with the picture
Patricia Griffin: And
Norma Tinson: preview
Patricia Griffin: uh we
Norma Tinson: or
Patricia Griffin: have
Norma Tinson: stuff
Patricia Griffin: to make
Norma Tinson: like that.
Patricia Griffin: uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Patricia Griffin: gathered.
Janice Schmidt: I try to organise it by these three. Yeah yeah
Patricia Griffin: It's it's just my own map so
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: I put everything into the
Janice Schmidt: I don't really mind. I just put the minutes here and we'll see.
Patricia Griffin: But you got some extra information uh
Janice Schmidt: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder.
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Yeah that's just basically what I just showed.
Patricia Griffin: But where do you did you get the newsflash?
Janice Schmidt: Yeah. Yeah I got it by
Patricia Griffin: You're the only one
Janice Schmidt: yeah.
Patricia Griffin: uh okay.
Janice Schmidt: I'm
Norma Tinson: internet.
Janice Schmidt: gonna get kicked if I don't do it so
Patricia Griffin: Okay.
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Norma Tinson: Alright.
Patricia Griffin: Yeah.
Janice Schmidt: Make Norma Tinson proud.
Minnie Loree: I'll try to. So first we have a lunchbreak now?
Janice Schmidt: Yeah.
Minnie Loree: Alright.
Janice Schmidt: I believe so. just ask.
Minnie Loree: Mm-hmm. I dunno where she. | Norma Tinson reported on research which shows that users think most remotes are ugly, easily lost and bad for RSI. Audio settings are rarely used, and the power, channel and volume buttons are used most often. The remote should be user-friendly and have a good look and feel. Norma Tinson and project manager described the new requirements that the target group is users under 40, the remote should not include teletext, should be only for TV, and should feature the corporate logo. Patricia Griffin showed examples of two contrasting remotes, recommending that they should use the best features of both. The group decided to use an LCD screen and speech recognition. Minnie Loree described how a remote works, and explained that his presentation was incomplete because he had not received the necessary information in time. The group discussed what functions to include and the layout of the remote, and Norma Tinson drew a possible design on the board. They decided to have buttons for the basic functions and make the advanced functions accessible through the screen. They also discussed what buttons would be needed to navigate the menu on the LCD screen. | 2 | amisum | test |
Christine Braxton: Okay. Uh first of all I'll start with the costs, because that's going to influence
Barbara Enriquez: Oh no.
Christine Braxton: our design.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh,
Christine Braxton: If you Don't know if you al already had a look or not?
Barbara Williams: Did you
Barbara Enriquez: No
Barbara Williams: do your
Barbara Enriquez: n
Vinnie Fernandez: No.
Barbara Williams: questionnaire already?
Barbara Enriquez: I I already did it. It's not much. It's just
Christine Braxton: Because
Barbara Enriquez: one
Barbara Williams: Uh
Barbara Enriquez: question.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh
Christine Braxton: we have a problem. If you look closely,
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: you can see.
Barbara Williams: It wants
Christine Braxton: Um I already took the liberty to make some suggestions.
Christine Braxton: At the moment we have fifteen buttons, one L_C_D_ screen, one advanced chip-on-print. We use a uh sensor, that's for the speech. Uh we use kinetic energy. And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour. Okay. What's the first thing we should drop? The special colour of the buttons?
Barbara Enriquez: No that's that's for the trendy uh
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Barbara Enriquez: feel and look. So
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: Uh
Barbara Williams: but everything is.
Christine Braxton: Should we switch to a hand dynamo? Uh that's
Vinnie Fernandez: No.
Christine Braxton: the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah,
Christine Braxton: it
Barbara Enriquez: b
Christine Braxton: and do
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: things.
Barbara Enriquez: but
Vinnie Fernandez: but young people like that. So
Christine Braxton: Batteries?
Vinnie Fernandez: just do normal battery.
Christine Braxton: Batteries.
Barbara Enriquez: I think
Barbara Williams: Just
Barbara Enriquez: the
Barbara Williams: a
Barbara Enriquez: battery
Barbara Williams: normal
Barbara Enriquez: option.
Barbara Williams: battery then, yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. It has to be twelve and a half.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Or not?
Barbara Enriquez: Oh.
Barbara Williams: Oh my goodness.
Christine Braxton: So You're going to redesign something.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh no.
Christine Braxton: Okay, so we're at twenty five.
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh, yeah.
Christine Braxton: Um Do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved?
Barbara Williams: Well I guess i we'll have to go for single curve then. I mean we have to drop on everything.
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved, but from the side it's it's flat, and
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: the screen screen is just Well you just have to hold it like this then. So
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: How
Christine Braxton: Um
Barbara Williams: about Sorry.
Christine Braxton: Uh another option I saw was to drop the buttons one through nine, so you can't directly access a channel, but instead use only the up and down arrows.
Barbara Williams: That's what
Christine Braxton: That
Barbara Williams: I
Christine Braxton: would
Barbara Williams: was thinking.
Christine Braxton: skip
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: nine buttons and four and a half Euros.
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's
Barbara Williams: A a
Vinnie Fernandez: do it then. Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Uh then
Barbara Enriquez: But
Christine Braxton: we have
Barbara Enriquez: we
Christine Braxton: left
Barbara Enriquez: don't have any basic options any more.
Christine Braxton: Uh yeah. We do.
Barbara Williams: And uh
Vinnie Fernandez: F_
Barbara Williams: 'cause
Vinnie Fernandez: eight.
Barbara Williams: then they don't have to n They don't need special colour as well.
Christine Braxton: They don't need special colours. Fine. That's more like it.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: You were saying something.
Barbara Williams: That was exactly my point. Like
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: let's drop all the buttons, and just make one I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway.
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Williams: So we'll just have to use it for everything.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: And then you can make an overview of channels in the screen, and select a channel,
Christine Braxton: Yeah, some
Barbara Williams: click
Christine Braxton: more menu options. Yeah. Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons. But um Now let's look.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah we c could We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing. Everything you can do with with menu. So
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Enriquez: With the
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: display.
Barbara Williams: we need one integrated button for everything
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: then.
Vinnie Fernandez: The joystick.
Barbara Williams: Yeah. Kind of. I was
Christine Braxton: Uh
Barbara Williams: Because Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah, scroll-wheel, push-button uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Integrated
Barbara Williams: If you if you go
Vinnie Fernandez: scroll-wheel
Barbara Williams: to
Vinnie Fernandez: push-button,
Barbara Williams: If
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah.
Barbara Williams: you go to our uh view, like you if you are in the sound system there,
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: uh and you wanna adjust the treble for instance,
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: this is just uh an example,
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Williams: y y you wanna see a bar on which you can adjust it from
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Williams: zero to ten for example.
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Williams: But you want a sound preview of how it's gonna sound, right? So
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: you wanna click on it, activate it, whe and when you move it, hear the difference of the treble coming out
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: or going into the sound. So you'll you'll need a a kind of a joystick
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah or
Barbara Williams: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: or the
Barbara Williams: button.
Vinnie Fernandez: integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: So that's kind of on your mouse and then you can click it, adjust it, click again and then you're out of it. But
Barbara Williams: Exactly.
Vinnie Fernandez: you still But you then still need to have Well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels. But you still um
Barbara Williams: Yeah it's r Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: You still have to have some some button in the
Barbara Enriquez: So
Vinnie Fernandez: menu
Barbara Enriquez: you do one
Vinnie Fernandez: to go
Barbara Enriquez: inte
Vinnie Fernandez: back.
Barbara Enriquez: You can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: And then just drop all the other buttons.
Christine Braxton: Uh yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Well not all. Not
Barbara Enriquez: But
Vinnie Fernandez: s not sound
Barbara Enriquez: but
Vinnie Fernandez: I
Barbara Enriquez: th
Vinnie Fernandez: guess.
Barbara Enriquez: the cost of one
Barbara Williams: No.
Barbara Enriquez: integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons.
Christine Braxton: Yeah. It's uh One integrated button is five times the cost of a normal
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Mm.
Barbara Enriquez: So we
Christine Braxton: So
Barbara Enriquez: have to to make it s uh more uh It has
Christine Braxton: You
Barbara Enriquez: to be
Christine Braxton: could also drop j three more of these, without losing much functionality.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: You
Vinnie Fernandez: Wh
Christine Braxton: just
Vinnie Fernandez: wh
Christine Braxton: drop
Vinnie Fernandez: what
Christine Braxton: the
Vinnie Fernandez: what
Christine Braxton: Okay
Vinnie Fernandez: what
Christine Braxton: and
Vinnie Fernandez: is
Christine Braxton: the Back.
Vinnie Fernandez: the what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker?
Christine Braxton: Oh, that's for the speech.
Vinnie Fernandez: Speech recognition.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Could
Vinnie Fernandez: Right.
Barbara Enriquez: drop the speech recognition.
Christine Braxton: S s Drop speech recognition?
Barbara Williams: No but
Christine Braxton: Yeah that's
Barbara Enriquez: We
Christine Braxton: possible.
Barbara Enriquez: we d
Barbara Williams: Yeah it's it's expensive, but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition. 'Cause it can take the function of a lot of uh
Christine Braxton: Buttons.
Vinnie Fernandez: Buttons.
Barbara Williams: uh buttons.
Christine Braxton: That's
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: not
Barbara Williams: I
Christine Braxton: very easy to use.
Vinnie Fernandez: No,
Barbara Williams: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: it can be disturbed by by noise and
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: stuff
Barbara Williams: but lets
Vinnie Fernandez: like
Barbara Williams: just say that
Vinnie Fernandez: that. Let
Barbara Williams: the speech
Vinnie Fernandez: let let
Barbara Williams: recognition
Vinnie Fernandez: Vinnie Fernandez see what's more
Barbara Williams: works.
Vinnie Fernandez: what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: I have to look on that. Let Vinnie Fernandez see. Uh well no I was wrong. There are more people who like speech recognition than
Christine Braxton: Yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: an L_C_D_ screen.
Christine Braxton: Okay. Because if you d
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Christine Braxton: lose
Vinnie Fernandez: if it
Christine Braxton: the L_C_D_ screen,
Vinnie Fernandez: But it
Christine Braxton: we
Vinnie Fernandez: it it's a it's a both
Barbara Enriquez: We
Vinnie Fernandez: a
Barbara Enriquez: lose
Christine Braxton: need
Vinnie Fernandez: hypers
Barbara Enriquez: our
Christine Braxton: a lot
Barbara Enriquez: whole
Christine Braxton: of
Barbara Enriquez: concept. Uh
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: so No we
Christine Braxton: We need
Barbara Enriquez: just
Christine Braxton: a
Vinnie Fernandez: No,
Christine Braxton: lot of extra
Vinnie Fernandez: but
Christine Braxton: buttons.
Barbara Enriquez: We keep
Vinnie Fernandez: Well
Barbara Enriquez: the
Vinnie Fernandez: we
Barbara Enriquez: L_C_D_.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent, uh
Barbara Williams: We
Christine Braxton: Okay
Vinnie Fernandez: sixty
Barbara Williams: uh we
Christine Braxton: so
Vinnie Fernandez: six
Barbara Williams: we
Christine Braxton: we drop
Vinnie Fernandez: to
Barbara Williams: haven't
Vinnie Fernandez: seventy
Christine Braxton: the speech.
Barbara Williams: really
Vinnie Fernandez: six.
Barbara Williams: integrated this the speech into the system, so we can might as well s
Christine Braxton: And
Barbara Williams: drop
Christine Braxton: drop
Barbara Williams: that.
Christine Braxton: it
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: drop
Christine Braxton: S
Vinnie Fernandez: the speech.
Christine Braxton: Fo Four less Euros.
Vinnie Fernandez: Sixteen
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: Euros.
Christine Braxton: we still have three and a half Euro to lose.
Barbara Williams: We need
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Barbara Williams: to
Vinnie Fernandez: y y
Barbara Williams: lose some buttons.
Christine Braxton: Yeah if you lose the the Back, the Okay button Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows,
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: and the Menu button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Then
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Christine Braxton: you're
Vinnie Fernandez: then and then use um
Christine Braxton: Oh and the power button we have also.
Vinnie Fernandez: The the Okay. And the menu button does also does the okay function then.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: And then when you in the menu
Christine Braxton: So that's one
Vinnie Fernandez: S
Christine Braxton: Euro.
Vinnie Fernandez: so so you activate the menu.
Barbara Enriquez: If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons, we
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: can drop all the the push-buttons.
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Barbara Enriquez: With
Christine Braxton: And
Barbara Enriquez: with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: With
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: the other, we can do the the channel, the volume, et cetera.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: That would save zero point two Euros compared to No.
Barbara Enriquez: No it's three Euros. No? Um
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: No
Christine Braxton: To
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Christine Braxton: This
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Christine Braxton: together
Barbara Enriquez: n Yeah.
Christine Braxton: is more expensive than
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah yeah
Christine Braxton: Oof,
Barbara Enriquez: yeah.
Christine Braxton: it's almost the same as t keeping this.
Vinnie Fernandez: Well okay.
Christine Braxton: And we can
Vinnie Fernandez: For
Christine Braxton: drop
Barbara Enriquez: It's
Vinnie Fernandez: example
Christine Braxton: these
Barbara Enriquez: the
Vinnie Fernandez: if you have f
Christine Braxton: two.
Vinnie Fernandez: f four buttons, channel up and down, uh volume
Christine Braxton: Volume.
Vinnie Fernandez: left right Okay, I've I think we have to keep that.
Christine Braxton: And the
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Christine Braxton: power
Vinnie Fernandez: then
Christine Braxton: button.
Vinnie Fernandez: and the power button. So that's five.
Christine Braxton: That's the basic.
Vinnie Fernandez: That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu, um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel, the the the menu gets activated, and then you can scroll, choose an option, click on it, it goes into an feature. Click on it again, selects features, scroll, adjust it. Click again, it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option, you set a you set an a screen thing what says back, and you select that one, click again, and you go one step back. And in that menu, scroll, click, one step back. So that then you need five buttons,
Christine Braxton: Yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
Barbara Williams: Which
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Christine Braxton: Okay
Vinnie Fernandez: we
Christine Braxton: th
Vinnie Fernandez: can't
Christine Braxton: that's
Barbara Williams: That's
Vinnie Fernandez: drop three buttons. But I
Barbara Williams: even
Vinnie Fernandez: see
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: that's
Christine Braxton: that's one Euro more expensive.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. So that's not a good
Christine Braxton: That's
Vinnie Fernandez: idea.
Christine Braxton: not an option.
Vinnie Fernandez: Because which buttons do we have now? Those five which I mentioned, and then menu, and
Christine Braxton: Menu,
Vinnie Fernandez: then
Christine Braxton: power.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. F of the four things?
Christine Braxton: Four arrows?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, th power.
Christine Braxton: Power. Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Which
Barbara Williams: Yeah, if
Vinnie Fernandez: more?
Barbara Williams: you if you go to eight I don't know how to
Christine Braxton: Yeah. Okay. So four arrows?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Power.
Christine Braxton: power I believe?
Vinnie Fernandez: Th Yeah that's five.
Christine Braxton: Uh We have a Back and a Okay button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, okay that's seven,
Christine Braxton: And
Vinnie Fernandez: and
Christine Braxton: the
Vinnie Fernandez: one to activate the menu,
Christine Braxton: Menu.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display. Oh, well
Christine Braxton: Yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: okay.
Christine Braxton: and even if we drop three buttons from here, we still have to make some adjustments around here. So
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah, we need the chip for the for the
Christine Braxton: The
Barbara Williams: L_C_
Christine Braxton: L_C_D_?
Barbara Williams: display.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Let's
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: make
Vinnie Fernandez: well we
Barbara Enriquez: the
Vinnie Fernandez: need
Barbara Enriquez: Let's
Vinnie Fernandez: the
Barbara Enriquez: make
Vinnie Fernandez: advanced
Barbara Enriquez: the case plastic.
Vinnie Fernandez: Instead
Christine Braxton: Then I rather
Vinnie Fernandez: of r
Christine Braxton: make it wood. Because then also it's good in the market with the
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: forty five plus uh
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: people.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Williams: True.
Vinnie Fernandez: but but that's not
Barbara Enriquez: But
Vinnie Fernandez: our market.
Christine Braxton: No that maybe not. But maybe it's better than plastic anyway.
Vinnie Fernandez: Ah no, hard plastic.
Barbara Enriquez: Plastic
Barbara Williams: Oh.
Barbara Enriquez: with a with a special colour. A
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah,
Barbara Enriquez: woo wood
Vinnie Fernandez: plastic
Barbara Enriquez: uh wood
Vinnie Fernandez: with special
Barbara Enriquez: uh wood
Vinnie Fernandez: colour.
Barbara Enriquez: colour.
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Barbara Enriquez: That's
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: an option.
Christine Braxton: okay
Vinnie Fernandez: No
Christine Braxton: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: but I I Because we have to use the special colour anyway. You forgot that.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yep. Yeah, yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Barbara Enriquez: So
Vinnie Fernandez: let's
Barbara Enriquez: we do
Vinnie Fernandez: go
Barbara Enriquez: one
Vinnie Fernandez: for the plastic.
Barbara Enriquez: one s Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah, okay. Plastic.
Vinnie Fernandez: And since it's not kinetic, it doesn't have to flip
Christine Braxton: Uh that's
Vinnie Fernandez: around
Christine Braxton: easy
Vinnie Fernandez: that
Christine Braxton: because
Vinnie Fernandez: much?
Christine Braxton: plastic
Barbara Williams: Hmm.
Christine Braxton: is free.
Barbara Enriquez: Hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: We still have problem of two Euros.
Christine Braxton: Yeah, okay. Uh if we dropped uh
Barbara Enriquez: No the buttons, those are really needed.
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: we can't
Barbara Enriquez: th th
Vinnie Fernandez: drop
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Vinnie Fernandez: them.
Barbara Enriquez: it's uh An advanced chip-on-print.
Barbara Williams: Yeah uh
Christine Braxton: You still need
Barbara Williams: You
Vinnie Fernandez: Do we
Christine Braxton: that.
Vinnie Fernandez: really need
Barbara Williams: uh uh
Vinnie Fernandez: that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display?
Barbara Williams: Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker, and Which can use a regular chip, wh which is six Euros
Christine Braxton: S
Barbara Williams: in total. That doesn't matter.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh.
Christine Braxton: No,
Vinnie Fernandez: I rather
Christine Braxton: I
Vinnie Fernandez: keep
Christine Braxton: keep
Vinnie Fernandez: I rather
Christine Braxton: the re
Vinnie Fernandez: keep the display.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Well
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Christine Braxton: Because
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Christine Braxton: we already designed for
Vinnie Fernandez: the
Christine Braxton: it.
Vinnie Fernandez: only
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: option is an hand
Barbara Williams: Exactly.
Vinnie Fernandez: dynamo.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: that
Christine Braxton: and something else.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh no tha Oh that's
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: one
Barbara Williams: but
Vinnie Fernandez: Euro,
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: right.
Barbara Williams: uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Barbara Williams: then
Vinnie Fernandez: then
Barbara Williams: if
Vinnie Fernandez: integrated
Barbara Williams: w
Vinnie Fernandez: s Yeah but that would make it not so
Christine Braxton: No
Vinnie Fernandez: easy
Christine Braxton: y
Vinnie Fernandez: to use.
Christine Braxton: you
Vinnie Fernandez: I mean it's
Christine Braxton: would
Vinnie Fernandez: not
Christine Braxton: rec
Vinnie Fernandez: that important, easy to use, but
Christine Braxton: Then you
Barbara Williams: Th then we have
Christine Braxton: have
Barbara Williams: to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want,
Christine Braxton: Then you
Barbara Williams: huh?
Christine Braxton: still
Barbara Williams: And
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: need
Barbara Williams: uh
Christine Braxton: two additional buttons I believe. For
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: the volume.
Barbara Williams: d at l
Christine Braxton: You
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: can use those Yeah.
Barbara Williams: At least one for power.
Barbara Enriquez: But
Christine Braxton: Oh
Barbara Enriquez: the
Christine Braxton: yeah and power. That's
Barbara Williams: Oh.
Christine Braxton: three buttons and this would
Barbara Williams: Yeah it's
Christine Braxton: cost
Barbara Williams: just as expensive as what
Barbara Enriquez: But
Barbara Williams: we
Barbara Enriquez: the
Barbara Williams: have
Barbara Enriquez: integrated
Barbara Williams: now.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: uh button? How many func functions can it uh have?
Christine Braxton: Three. Up, down,
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Barbara Williams: endlessly. I mean it can
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Barbara Williams: be a power button as soon as it powered on. You
Vinnie Fernandez: You
Barbara Williams: can
Vinnie Fernandez: you
Barbara Williams: go
Vinnie Fernandez: press
Barbara Williams: into
Vinnie Fernandez: it for
Barbara Williams: you
Vinnie Fernandez: like three
Barbara Williams: in
Vinnie Fernandez: seconds.
Barbara Williams: you main menu, you can choose uh flip channel, uh you can choose sound options, any options.
Vinnie Fernandez: Then then then you should do everything in the menu.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: On the screen.
Christine Braxton: Yeah, okay. It
Barbara Williams: Maybe
Christine Braxton: would
Barbara Williams: we
Christine Braxton: save
Barbara Williams: should. 'Cause we
Christine Braxton: enough
Barbara Williams: don't have money and w we
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Williams: want
Christine Braxton: you
Barbara Williams: the
Christine Braxton: can
Barbara Williams: screen.
Christine Braxton: choose this, drop these, then we have a half Euro left.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: So we can maybe still use power button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah,
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: but we'd Alright.
Barbara Williams: I guess
Vinnie Fernandez: It
Barbara Williams: we
Vinnie Fernandez: s
Barbara Williams: have
Vinnie Fernandez: it saves
Barbara Williams: to.
Vinnie Fernandez: us four Euros and it costs us two and a half. So let's see, we
Barbara Williams: We'll
Vinnie Fernandez: we drop
Barbara Williams: we'll
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: be
Vinnie Fernandez: the price
Barbara Williams: on
Christine Braxton: You see?
Vinnie Fernandez: by one and a half. But we still have thirteen
Christine Braxton: Oh still
Vinnie Fernandez: left.
Christine Braxton: Yeah? Oh then I miscalculated. Oh yeah. Shit.
Vinnie Fernandez: There
Christine Braxton: Drop
Vinnie Fernandez: goes
Christine Braxton: the special
Vinnie Fernandez: the special co
Barbara Enriquez: Oh no.
Vinnie Fernandez: Well
Christine Braxton: colour.
Vinnie Fernandez: That would make it less appealing. So that's no option.
Christine Braxton: 'Kay. What else? Uncurved?
Barbara Enriquez: No no, it has to be um
Vinnie Fernandez: We sure
Barbara Enriquez: curved.
Vinnie Fernandez: about the advanced chip we need for the display?
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah it says right here.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Christine Braxton: They made
Vinnie Fernandez: Well
Christine Braxton: it very easy for us.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah. yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display, but
Christine Braxton: Ah,
Vinnie Fernandez: it's a cool
Christine Braxton: I
Vinnie Fernandez: feature.
Christine Braxton: don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say, this is better for the market so you sell more
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Christine Braxton: than
Barbara Enriquez: Wh what we could do is um drop the the special colour,
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: and uh do the special colour for the buttons.
Christine Braxton: Buttons. That's Oh yeah since we only have one button.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour?
Christine Braxton: I just
Barbara Enriquez: Just
Christine Braxton: m
Barbara Enriquez: something
Christine Braxton: I don't
Barbara Enriquez: else
Christine Braxton: I
Barbara Enriquez: than
Christine Braxton: think
Barbara Enriquez: than black or white
Christine Braxton: Uh
Barbara Enriquez: I think.
Christine Braxton: yeah it's I think it's grey, regular.
Vinnie Fernandez: S yeah. Alright.
Christine Braxton: Grey and rubber.
Barbara Williams: But we definitely want
Christine Braxton: Of
Barbara Williams: the
Christine Braxton: plastic.
Barbara Williams: thing to be a special colour
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: though.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. So I rather
Barbara Williams: Damn.
Vinnie Fernandez: have an hand dynamo
Barbara Williams: Yeah and then
Vinnie Fernandez: than than drop the colour.
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: You
Barbara Williams: yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: can still
Barbara Williams: yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: play
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: with it then I guess. I don't know.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option.
Barbara Enriquez: The display
Barbara Williams: Well,
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: you only have to
Barbara Enriquez: The
Barbara Williams: power it up when you wanna use it.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: But if
Barbara Williams: I
Barbara Enriquez: you
Barbara Williams: don't
Barbara Enriquez: have
Barbara Williams: know.
Barbara Enriquez: to power the for ten minutes, then
Christine Braxton: No
Barbara Enriquez: the
Christine Braxton: I don't think
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: the current status of uh chips are pretty uh
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: energy conserving, no.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah true.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.
Christine Braxton: Yeah hand dynamo? Do you want an extra button?
Vinnie Fernandez: Or or do we Or do we do uncurved and flat? Instead of
Barbara Enriquez: No no it has to be curved.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah it
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: has to be curved and
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: has to have that colour.
Barbara Enriquez: Just put
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: a
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Barbara Enriquez: special
Vinnie Fernandez: a screen.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: special
Barbara Williams: That's
Barbara Enriquez: colour
Barbara Williams: the most
Barbara Enriquez: of the buttons,
Barbara Williams: import
Barbara Enriquez: or something.
Christine Braxton: Yep? Instead of
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah or
Christine Braxton: an
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: additional
Barbara Enriquez: spe
Christine Braxton: power
Barbara Enriquez: special
Christine Braxton: button?
Barbara Enriquez: form?
Vinnie Fernandez: S what what is special f Oh yeah, special form.
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: Maybe that's nicer.
Christine Braxton: It's for scroll
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Christine Braxton: Without
Vinnie Fernandez: we don't have any buttons. So
Barbara Williams: We only
Vinnie Fernandez: do
Barbara Williams: have
Vinnie Fernandez: d Uh make
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: it a
Barbara Enriquez: But
Vinnie Fernandez: special
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Vinnie Fernandez: colour
Barbara Enriquez: it's for
Vinnie Fernandez: then.
Barbara Enriquez: the integrated button, I think also. Or
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: ma
Barbara Williams: but
Vinnie Fernandez: make it a special colour
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: then.
Christine Braxton: but it's just a scroll-wheel which
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: you can push
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Christine Braxton: down.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: Okay. Make
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: it a special colour and then it look fancy.
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Christine Braxton: Woah we're within budget.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: It's
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Christine Braxton: a
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's
Christine Braxton: miracle.
Barbara Enriquez: just oh
Vinnie Fernandez: let's
Barbara Enriquez: ma
Vinnie Fernandez: save
Barbara Enriquez: make
Vinnie Fernandez: it.
Barbara Enriquez: it two special colours, but we only have one button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's do it like this, I mean, because
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: it does not lose our identity of the product as we
Christine Braxton: Okay. Um, well. 'Kay, this was old.
Barbara Williams: Well we come back to the drawing board then, huh?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah back to work.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah all
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: your
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: designs are uh pretty much
Barbara Williams: It's
Christine Braxton: Did
Barbara Williams: silly
Christine Braxton: I
Barbara Williams: 'cause we we
Christine Braxton: save
Barbara Williams: should have had this
Christine Braxton: it?
Barbara Williams: meeting before we start drawing.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah but that but that's the fun part of
Christine Braxton: I
Vinnie Fernandez: it.
Christine Braxton: I wanted to go,
Barbara Williams: Oh yeah?
Christine Braxton: but I wasn't allowed. So
Barbara Williams: okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah what's the next uh phase?
Christine Braxton: Yeah, this the last phase of course, so
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh the agenda. By your humble P_M_.
Christine Braxton: Hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh f
Christine Braxton: Oh.
Vinnie Fernandez: Frustrated. Alright. Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Okay. Um Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation. But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense, because we had to
Barbara Williams: Drop
Christine Braxton: drop
Barbara Williams: everything.
Christine Braxton: it.
Vinnie Fernandez: Drop, yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Uh
Barbara Williams: We went straight into finance?
Christine Braxton: Yeah. Yeah it was more important, so
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: I
Barbara Williams: For
Christine Braxton: just
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: pushed
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: up the agenda. Uh, evaluation criteria. You have t
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: produced
Vinnie Fernandez: that
Christine Braxton: something
Vinnie Fernandez: that's
Christine Braxton: about that?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so
Christine Braxton: Uh you put it in the.
Vinnie Fernandez: We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements. Alright.
Christine Braxton: F_ five.
Vinnie Fernandez: Let's make it big. Um Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale, as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false, and then on a scale of seven points, a scale,
Barbara Williams: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: as we all know it. Um Well the criteria are based on the user requirements, uh the trends from the marketing research, and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document, which I will open now.
Christine Braxton: Alt up
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this? Oh. I don't know.
Christine Braxton: Freaky.
Vinnie Fernandez: Um Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that?
Barbara Williams: I think it does. Because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_, right?
Christine Braxton: Yeah. Uh, of course
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: we dropped
Vinnie Fernandez: the us
Christine Braxton: a
Vinnie Fernandez: u
Christine Braxton: little bit of those uh
Vinnie Fernandez: It it it's
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions, in
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: this question. So do you think
Barbara Williams: Well, we have extended menus, on
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: You
Barbara Williams: on the
Vinnie Fernandez: can
Barbara Williams: L_C_D_
Vinnie Fernandez: you can ma
Barbara Williams: screen.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah,
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Barbara Williams: So
Vinnie Fernandez: you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited,
Barbara Williams: I
Vinnie Fernandez: to to build in menus in the screen.
Barbara Williams: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: So on a scale from one to seven, what do you
Barbara Enriquez: Two
Vinnie Fernandez: think?
Barbara Enriquez: or three.
Vinnie Fernandez: Huh?
Barbara Enriquez: Two or three.
Vinnie Fernandez: Two or three? Something like that? Well we
Christine Braxton: Two.
Vinnie Fernandez: have
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: to choose one. So uh what do you say?
Christine Braxton: Uh y
Vinnie Fernandez: I agree
Christine Braxton: we should
Vinnie Fernandez: on two.
Christine Braxton: fill this in now.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: I
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: uh I say two, personally. But
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah in
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: the
Barbara Williams: alright.
Christine Braxton: new design I s would say it's three. But now, in original design I say
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: two.
Vinnie Fernandez: well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now.
Christine Braxton: Okay then I say three.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah? You say three,
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: and you you
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: said al also three? Three?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Okay well I say still two, but it has to be three then.
Christine Braxton: Hey, you're marketing, eh.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's
Christine Braxton: Hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: nah, it's
Christine Braxton: M
Vinnie Fernandez: not very
Christine Braxton: maybe
Vinnie Fernandez: clear
Christine Braxton: underline.
Vinnie Fernandez: on the sc
Barbara Enriquez: Or give it a colour.
Vinnie Fernandez: Maybe other colour, yeah. That's better. Uh
Christine Braxton: Red.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Alright. Oh, it doesn't have to be bold anymore. Alright.
Christine Braxton: Oh yeah very true.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah true one.
Vinnie Fernandez: Um well the remote
Christine Braxton: He
Vinnie Fernandez: control
Christine Braxton: types everything.
Vinnie Fernandez: has Wha
Barbara Williams: Definitely one.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: It has to be.
Vinnie Fernandez: The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings
Barbara Enriquez: It
Vinnie Fernandez: and
Barbara Enriquez: hides
Vinnie Fernandez: screen settings.
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Christine Braxton: Everything.
Barbara Enriquez: basic functions.
Christine Braxton: You don't
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: use anything
Vinnie Fernandez: Well,
Christine Braxton: else.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah. So
Barbara Williams: You're
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Barbara Williams: not gonna
Vinnie Fernandez: it's
Barbara Williams: find
Vinnie Fernandez: a very
Barbara Williams: them.
Vinnie Fernandez: true point. I mean
Christine Braxton: Yeah. Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: it hides
Christine Braxton: okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: all those function.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: But, I mean
Barbara Enriquez: true.
Vinnie Fernandez: uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them, you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: F I don't know where. So that's very true, I guess, for our case. Uh
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: the
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: second
Barbara Williams: next
Vinnie Fernandez: point.
Barbara Williams: Not so much
Vinnie Fernandez: It
Barbara Williams: so.
Vinnie Fernandez: shows the relevant and most used functions.
Christine Braxton: Nope.
Vinnie Fernandez: Power button. Do we ha still have a power button?
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Well yeah the button's integrated,
Christine Braxton: check with the
Vinnie Fernandez: huh?
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Excel sheet.
Barbara Enriquez: I think
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: we
Barbara Williams: it's
Barbara Enriquez: are
Barbara Williams: uh it's integrated.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push
Barbara Enriquez: It's
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Barbara Enriquez: in
Vinnie Fernandez: in
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: for
Barbara Enriquez: yeah it was integrateds.
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: integrate
Vinnie Fernandez: just just
Christine Braxton: it.
Vinnie Fernandez: push it in for th for three seconds or something, and then
Barbara Williams: E exactly
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: just like a m
Vinnie Fernandez: I
Barbara Williams: mobile.
Vinnie Fernandez: don't
Christine Braxton: Just go scrolling and it
Vinnie Fernandez: know.
Christine Braxton: will
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: activate.
Vinnie Fernandez: Um it shows the relevant and most used functions. Yeah uh on the other uh on one side I would say yes, and the other side I would say no. So it's I don't know.
Christine Braxton: It shows the most used functions and they are relevant,
Barbara Enriquez: Can you uh
Christine Braxton: but
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: change channels directly with with just one button? No, you have to
Vinnie Fernandez: With
Barbara Enriquez: scroll
Vinnie Fernandez: the scroll
Barbara Enriquez: through
Vinnie Fernandez: butt
Barbara Enriquez: the menu, before
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah and then say channel.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: And then
Barbara Enriquez: So it's
Barbara Williams: Well
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Barbara Williams: uh we
Barbara Enriquez: not
Barbara Williams: should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something, if When it's on, yeah, it's
Vinnie Fernandez: Hmm?
Christine Braxton: You
Barbara Williams: turned
Christine Braxton: say
Barbara Williams: on,
Christine Braxton: you double click on the
Barbara Williams: It automatically
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: has the the programme and the volume function, but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Of you Or you double click
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Barbara Williams: it.
Vinnie Fernandez: but how do you change from volume to channel?
Barbara Williams: No because it has four arrows, right?
Christine Braxton: No, not
Barbara Enriquez: No.
Christine Braxton: anymore.
Vinnie Fernandez: No.
Christine Braxton: Because he's
Barbara Williams: Oh
Christine Braxton: now have
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Christine Braxton: a scroll-wheel
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: that you can push in.
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Christine Braxton: Like
Barbara Williams: I was
Christine Braxton: on
Barbara Williams: thinking
Christine Braxton: the the mouse.
Barbara Williams: still about our uh integrated joystick.
Vinnie Fernandez: No we have n we have no buttons left. So
Barbara Williams: Say.
Vinnie Fernandez: the joystick was not an option.
Barbara Williams: Yeah that
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Barbara Williams: is a bummer.
Vinnie Fernandez: so
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: you hav So you you have to double-click, I mean, for, I mean, uh
Christine Braxton: To
Vinnie Fernandez: volume,
Christine Braxton: get into menu.
Vinnie Fernandez: and three
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: double click for the menu, or something.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh no.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Or hold it ten
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: seconds.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Alright.
Barbara Williams: We'll make it a Morse code.
Vinnie Fernandez: But but ease of use was not very important, may I remind
Christine Braxton: No no
Vinnie Fernandez: you.
Christine Braxton: no.
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: that's
Christine Braxton: it should be trendy.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah but that that's not a question. Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions. Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.
Christine Braxton: Yeah. Four.
Vinnie Fernandez: You have to search for them in in the
Christine Braxton: Yeah, im in the menu.
Vinnie Fernandez: in the s in the screen, in the menu. So
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Seven.
Vinnie Fernandez: So maybe it's more like a f a five.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Or
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Five.
Barbara Williams: I would go for five or six, yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Five or six?
Christine Braxton: Five.
Barbara Williams: Okay
Barbara Enriquez: Five.
Barbara Williams: five.
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: Five? Alright.
Barbara Williams: Let's not diss our remote.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: It's the weirdest
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh.
Christine Braxton: remote control I've ever seen. So
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yep. Just one button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Well
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: it's
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Christine Braxton: different.
Vinnie Fernandez: the the
Barbara Williams: But
Vinnie Fernandez: remote
Barbara Williams: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: control
Barbara Williams: yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: recognition. Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition.
Christine Braxton: Yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Christine Braxton: it's
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Christine Braxton: still
Vinnie Fernandez: has at least one innovation.
Christine Braxton: Yeah, I say two.
Vinnie Fernandez: I say two
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: then.
Barbara Williams: We still have the fruit and vegetable print.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: Oh,
Vinnie Fernandez: but
Christine Braxton: that's
Barbara Williams: Fr
Christine Braxton: the
Barbara Williams: Oh
Christine Braxton: next.
Barbara Williams: I
Vinnie Fernandez: that that's
Barbara Williams: mean
Vinnie Fernandez: not
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: that's not this question.
Barbara Williams: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Barbara Williams: never
Vinnie Fernandez: thi
Barbara Williams: mind.
Vinnie Fernandez: uh that's the other question.
Barbara Williams: I'm a bit lost.
Vinnie Fernandez: This one.
Barbara Enriquez: I think a two.
Christine Braxton: Two.
Vinnie Fernandez: Two
Barbara Enriquez: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah. I think
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: L_C_D_'s more useful than speech
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: What?
Christine Braxton: definitely.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh not the bold one.
Barbara Williams: It's way more practical, yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Right. Okay, it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints, primary colours and sponge-like material. It should have
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: been two questions. I realise now, because sponge-like material is dropped. But the look and feel
Christine Braxton: You
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: still have rubber d
Barbara Williams: So we still
Christine Braxton: Or no.
Barbara Williams: uh
Barbara Enriquez: No
Barbara Williams: we still
Barbara Enriquez: you got
Barbara Williams: have the
Barbara Enriquez: a
Barbara Williams: primary
Barbara Enriquez: plastic.
Barbara Williams: colours.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: But only
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: on the on the outside, not on the button.
Vinnie Fernandez: The button has also colour.
Barbara Williams: Yeah?
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Okay.
Christine Braxton: The one button we have.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: The
Barbara Williams: still
Vinnie Fernandez: one.
Barbara Williams: we we dropped also on the the double uh curve.
Christine Braxton: Yeah you
Vinnie Fernandez: Mm
Christine Braxton: could check
Vinnie Fernandez: mm.
Christine Braxton: with the
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Excel sheet.
Barbara Enriquez: You
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: only
Vinnie Fernandez: we have
Barbara Enriquez: have
Vinnie Fernandez: single
Barbara Enriquez: one
Vinnie Fernandez: curve now,
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: And
Vinnie Fernandez: and no
Barbara Williams: and colour.
Vinnie Fernandez: and no material.
Barbara Williams: Yeah. S
Vinnie Fernandez: So maybe in the middle or
Barbara Enriquez: Four.
Vinnie Fernandez: something.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, I mean it's
Christine Braxton: Yeah or three.
Vinnie Fernandez: worth
Barbara Williams: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: the Yeah.
Christine Braxton: We have
Barbara Williams: Actually
Christine Braxton: something.
Barbara Williams: we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one, uh with little curve on the side, and in a different colour. Still, it's still
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: hard. I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape, that would give it something young and
Christine Braxton: New.
Barbara Williams: fresh.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. But then we would have to drop
Barbara Enriquez: Red.
Vinnie Fernandez: the screen. Oh red. Yeah.
Christine Braxton: You like both.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. I like bold. Uh the remote control displays the corporate logo.
Christine Braxton: Um oh yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Mm yeah
Barbara Williams: Of course.
Barbara Enriquez: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: I
Vinnie Fernandez: You just
Christine Braxton: just
Vinnie Fernandez: have to draw
Christine Braxton: couldn't
Vinnie Fernandez: it.
Christine Braxton: Um, just one minute.
Barbara Williams: Yeah but it
Barbara Enriquez: It's the white
Barbara Williams: be
Barbara Enriquez: part
Barbara Williams: because
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Barbara Williams: uh we couldn't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen, we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: So
Barbara Enriquez: We have a we
Barbara Williams: I
Christine Braxton: So
Barbara Williams: mean
Barbara Enriquez: have a
Barbara Williams: I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But
Vinnie Fernandez: But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean, if
Barbara Williams: Hell
Vinnie Fernandez: there's only
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: one
Barbara Williams: If we
Vinnie Fernandez: thing.
Barbara Williams: have only one button.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. So I will say that is very true.
Barbara Enriquez: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Williams: And even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an R_ and the reversed R_, doesn't it?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. The
Barbara Williams: So
Vinnie Fernandez: remote control is easy to use. Well I would say
Barbara Williams: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: Skill, uh I would say six, or something. I don't think it's easy to use, or not
Barbara Williams: The only
Vinnie Fernandez: so.
Barbara Enriquez: Ah
Barbara Williams: e the only
Barbara Enriquez: i
Barbara Williams: thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: 'Cause it has only
Barbara Enriquez: And
Barbara Williams: one
Barbara Enriquez: that
Barbara Williams: button.
Barbara Enriquez: you only have to control one button.
Barbara Williams: Yeah exactly.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: It gives visual feedback. So
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.
Barbara Williams: I would
Barbara Enriquez: I think
Barbara Williams: say six.
Barbara Enriquez: a five. Five.
Vinnie Fernandez: What do you say? Easy
Barbara Williams: It's
Vinnie Fernandez: to use?
Barbara Williams: really not
Vinnie Fernandez: Five
Barbara Williams: easy
Vinnie Fernandez: or a
Barbara Williams: to
Vinnie Fernandez: six?
Barbara Williams: use. 'Cause
Christine Braxton: No
Barbara Williams: you're putting
Christine Braxton: not
Barbara Williams: everything
Christine Braxton: anymore.
Vinnie Fernandez: So a six, more.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, uh I would go for the six too.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay. Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Barbara Williams: Most votes count. Um
Vinnie Fernandez: Um
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah that
Vinnie Fernandez: well,
Barbara Enriquez: looks uh great.
Vinnie Fernandez: another question, uh the remote control is durable. I don't know if that's the correct
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: word.
Barbara Williams: Definitely
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Barbara Enriquez: Nah
Vinnie Fernandez: uh
Barbara Williams: in casing,
Vinnie Fernandez: In
Barbara Williams: 'cause
Vinnie Fernandez: use,
Barbara Williams: we have a hard
Vinnie Fernandez: both
Barbara Williams: plastic
Vinnie Fernandez: battery as casing?
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah?
Barbara Williams: Yeah because the the batteries, those thingies last forever.
Vinnie Fernandez: True, true.
Barbara Williams: And the
Vinnie Fernandez: And the casing is plastic,
Barbara Williams: the casing, hard plastic also lasts forever.
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: If you don't drop it too much, it's
Barbara Williams: So
Vinnie Fernandez: uh should last pretty long.
Barbara Williams: I would go for one.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah? But uh I think rubber compared
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: is better.
Barbara Enriquez: S
Vinnie Fernandez: So I think a two is more appropriate
Barbara Enriquez: Yep.
Barbara Williams: Okay yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: than
Barbara Enriquez: Wow.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Logo.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Okay I will go go for two. Uh the last one? The remote control's a good example for company's motto, we put
Barbara Williams: Oh.
Vinnie Fernandez: the fashion in electronics.
Barbara Williams: No m
Barbara Enriquez: No we put the electronics into the fashion.
Vinnie Fernandez: uh turn around. Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Williams: I
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Barbara Williams: would
Vinnie Fernandez: um
Christine Braxton: well
Barbara Williams: g
Christine Braxton: yeah.
Barbara Williams: I would go for four.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah?
Christine Braxton: No
Barbara Williams: Because we
Vinnie Fernandez: It's
Barbara Williams: kind
Vinnie Fernandez: not
Barbara Williams: of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, true.
Christine Braxton: Yeah okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: So a four. It's it g it g goes, it's not the best we could do,
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: I guess. But it all has to do with the budget, because it's it's not the bad idea we had, so
Barbara Williams: Yeah. Yeah yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah, four
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright,
Barbara Enriquez: is okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah. Right.
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Barbara Williams: That's it.
Vinnie Fernandez: if I understood it right, we have to count these numbers.
Christine Braxton: Ooh. And
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Christine Braxton: Yeah? What?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh Alright. Word document, the
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Christine Braxton: That
Vinnie Fernandez: we have to count them.
Christine Braxton: Count them.
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Christine Braxton: Add them? Or
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah just add them and then uh
Christine Braxton: Could
Vinnie Fernandez: divide
Christine Braxton: somebody start
Vinnie Fernandez: them.
Christine Braxton: calculator?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Mm. I
Barbara Williams: Ah
Vinnie Fernandez: all made
Barbara Williams: we can
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Barbara Williams: do
Vinnie Fernandez: po
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: I
Barbara Williams: math.
Vinnie Fernandez: I all made it I all made it
Barbara Williams: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: possible uh for a positive questions,
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: so we can count it. I mean if you have reversed
Christine Braxton: Yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: question,
Christine Braxton: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: you have to
Christine Braxton: You
Vinnie Fernandez: reverse
Christine Braxton: have to
Vinnie Fernandez: the scale, uh
Christine Braxton: 'Kay.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yes.
Christine Braxton: So four and
Barbara Williams: Did you make this questionnaire or what?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Thanks.
Christine Braxton: Nice work.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Barbara Williams: Oh.
Barbara Enriquez: Three plus?
Barbara Williams: I wouldn't be able to
Christine Braxton: O
Barbara Williams: do
Christine Braxton: one.
Barbara Williams: it that fast.
Barbara Enriquez: Plus one.
Christine Braxton: Plus five.
Barbara Enriquez: Plus five?
Christine Braxton: Bo
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh Easy. Question number four, yeah?
Christine Braxton: Uh two.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: F
Christine Braxton: Four.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh. Wait a second. Oh. It's it's gone wrong.
Vinnie Fernandez: How hard is it?
Barbara Enriquez: Okay. It's your
Barbara Williams: Pretty
Barbara Enriquez: turn.
Barbara Williams: difficult.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah just
Christine Braxton: Start
Vinnie Fernandez: use
Barbara Enriquez: No it's
Christine Braxton: over?
Barbara Enriquez: if you press
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh there tho
Barbara Enriquez: twice
Vinnie Fernandez: uh there's
Barbara Enriquez: on the
Vinnie Fernandez: no
Barbara Enriquez: plus
Vinnie Fernandez: n
Barbara Enriquez: button, then you
Vinnie Fernandez: There's
Barbara Enriquez: get
Vinnie Fernandez: no num
Barbara Enriquez: s s
Vinnie Fernandez: pads.
Christine Braxton: You can
Barbara Enriquez: No.
Christine Braxton: Oh yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: That's why it's uh
Vinnie Fernandez: It's a it's a bit uh
Barbara Williams: Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right? And then you can count them together.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. I think you can
Barbara Enriquez: Just
Vinnie Fernandez: just
Barbara Enriquez: count
Vinnie Fernandez: count
Barbara Enriquez: it
Vinnie Fernandez: them
Barbara Enriquez: to
Vinnie Fernandez: by a
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Um let's move
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: over. Three, plus one,
Christine Braxton: Three, four,
Vinnie Fernandez: four. Nine.
Christine Braxton: nine. Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh, yeah. Are you here? Eleven.
Barbara Williams: Eleven.
Christine Braxton: Eleven,
Barbara Williams: Fifteen.
Vinnie Fernandez: Fifteen.
Christine Braxton: fifteen.
Barbara Enriquez: Sixteen.
Barbara Williams: Sixteen.
Vinnie Fernandez: Sixteen, yeah.
Barbara Williams: Seventeen.
Christine Braxton: Seventeen.
Vinnie Fernandez: No sixteen. Uh sixteen plus
Barbara Williams: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: six.
Barbara Williams: what?
Barbara Enriquez: Twenty two.
Christine Braxton: S
Vinnie Fernandez: Twenty
Barbara Williams: How
Vinnie Fernandez: two.
Barbara Williams: hard is this?
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Twenty two, yeah?
Barbara Williams: Never
Barbara Enriquez: Twenty four.
Barbara Williams: mind.
Vinnie Fernandez: Tw
Barbara Williams: Twenty four.
Barbara Enriquez: Twenty six.
Barbara Williams: Twenty eight.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh,
Vinnie Fernandez: Twenty
Barbara Enriquez: sorry.
Vinnie Fernandez: Twenty eight.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh my.
Christine Braxton: That was the last one. That was
Barbara Williams: Twenty
Christine Braxton: that.
Barbara Williams: eight.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay. Twenty eight.
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: Twen Uh okay.
Christine Braxton: divided by nine.
Vinnie Fernandez: By nine.
Barbara Enriquez: Hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: That's uh three uh
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: Or
Barbara Williams: Yeah the
Vinnie Fernandez: le
Barbara Williams: lower
Vinnie Fernandez: less
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: than a three.
Barbara Williams: The lower the score the better, right?
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Twenty
Barbara Williams: Yeah but
Vinnie Fernandez: eight
Christine Braxton: Divided
Vinnie Fernandez: di
Christine Braxton: by nine.
Vinnie Fernandez: divided by nine
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: makes
Christine Braxton: thr t
Vinnie Fernandez: three
Christine Braxton: two.
Vinnie Fernandez: point one one one one one
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: one
Christine Braxton: we're
Vinnie Fernandez: one.
Christine Braxton: better than average.
Barbara Williams: But
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: I Are you sure we this number actually tells us somethings?
Christine Braxton: No.
Barbara Williams: I don't think so because some
Barbara Enriquez: Some
Barbara Williams: questions
Barbara Enriquez: questions are
Barbara Williams: are
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: related to positive issues and some to negative. So if you give a true to a positive, it actually means that the low the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, but there are no negative questions I guess.
Barbara Williams: No?
Vinnie Fernandez: Good example. Durable
Barbara Williams: Durable,
Vinnie Fernandez: use.
Barbara Williams: that's good.
Vinnie Fernandez: Easy to use.
Barbara Williams: Easy to use.
Vinnie Fernandez: This is good. Fancy look and feel, that's good.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Technology innovation was
Barbara Williams: Also
Vinnie Fernandez: good, because
Barbara Williams: good.
Vinnie Fernandez: of a marketing uh requirement. Re
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: relevant
Barbara Williams: okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: most used function.
Barbara Williams: I guess you
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Barbara Williams: did do it.
Vinnie Fernandez: hides these functions. That was also a good thing.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Oh yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: then matches
Barbara Williams: No
Vinnie Fernandez: the opera of the user was also
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: a good thing.
Barbara Williams: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: So it
Barbara Williams: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: were all positive questions,
Barbara Williams: Yeah true.
Vinnie Fernandez: by uh by purpose. So Yes, so the It tells us something, yes. Becau But
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: the
Barbara Enriquez: great.
Vinnie Fernandez: picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh
Christine Braxton: Things,
Vinnie Fernandez: those
Christine Braxton: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: things,
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: I guess.
Barbara Williams: definitely definitely.
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Barbara Williams: Because now it's just an average
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: It's remote.
Vinnie Fernandez: Nah it it's it's better than average, but
Barbara Williams: Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Barbara Williams: it
Vinnie Fernandez: th
Barbara Williams: looks
Christine Braxton: It's still
Barbara Williams: and stuff, it still
Christine Braxton: yeah.
Barbara Williams: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Has
Barbara Williams: it's
Christine Braxton: some
Barbara Williams: not,
Christine Braxton: shortcomings.
Barbara Williams: it's not really eye-catching, except for
Vinnie Fernandez: No.
Barbara Williams: the colour.
Vinnie Fernandez: The colour and the screen.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Okay so Um this we had, this we had.
Barbara Williams: Product
Christine Braxton: We have
Barbara Williams: evaluation.
Christine Braxton: to do a product evaluation. Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that, but
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this
Barbara Enriquez: Okay
Barbara Williams: Shall
Barbara Enriquez: it's your
Barbara Williams: we try?
Barbara Enriquez: turn now.
Christine Braxton: So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.
Barbara Williams: Black.
Vinnie Fernandez: With some casing around it, yeah.
Barbara Williams: Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours?
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: uh
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh
Christine Braxton: The the button has
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: a special
Barbara Enriquez: the green
Christine Braxton: colour, the
Barbara Enriquez: uh he only
Christine Braxton: frame
Barbara Enriquez: needs
Christine Braxton: has a special colour.
Barbara Enriquez: one button.
Barbara Williams: One scroll
Christine Braxton: It's
Barbara Williams: button
Christine Braxton: plastic.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: and
Barbara Enriquez: Or we have to delete this one
Christine Braxton: And
Barbara Enriquez: or
Christine Braxton: single curved.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh oh no.
Barbara Williams: For
Christine Braxton: Otherwise
Barbara Williams: what?
Christine Braxton: it uh doesn't function uh
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Christine Braxton: so well.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: So that's
Vinnie Fernandez: Do we have to do other things?
Christine Braxton: Well
Vinnie Fernandez: Or just redesign?
Christine Braxton: I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far.
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: So I
Vinnie Fernandez: So you made a start, right?
Christine Braxton: Yeah I'm I'm somewhere, but maybe
Barbara Williams: Should
Christine Braxton: you
Barbara Williams: give
Christine Braxton: can
Barbara Williams: it
Christine Braxton: help
Barbara Williams: some
Christine Braxton: Vinnie Fernandez.
Barbara Williams: time?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yay.
Christine Braxton: Uh
Barbara Enriquez: Okay, but how do we make the the scroll
Christine Braxton: I was here.
Barbara Enriquez: uh button?
Christine Braxton: So
Barbara Enriquez: It's just one
Barbara Williams: Have to
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Barbara Williams: take this away also.
Barbara Enriquez: yeah.
Christine Braxton: Ah
Barbara Williams: And this um
Barbara Enriquez: Uh that's the infrared uh
Barbara Williams: Oh
Barbara Enriquez: thing.
Vinnie Fernandez: The
Barbara Williams: yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: the
Barbara Williams: of course.
Vinnie Fernandez: target group has a
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: weak
Barbara Williams: Um
Vinnie Fernandez: spot for fruit
Barbara Williams: pen
Vinnie Fernandez: and vegetables,
Barbara Williams: yeah?
Vinnie Fernandez: like primary
Barbara Williams: Format.
Vinnie Fernandez: colours, spongy shape.
Barbara Williams: Current
Vinnie Fernandez: The
Barbara Williams: colour
Vinnie Fernandez: playfulness,
Barbara Williams: red.
Vinnie Fernandez: we decided to use kinetic
Barbara Williams: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: energy as a power
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: sour
Barbara Williams: we did our special colour for
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: the
Vinnie Fernandez: Okay.
Barbara Williams: Line
Vinnie Fernandez: That's
Barbara Williams: widths,
Vinnie Fernandez: conceptual,
Barbara Williams: now that's
Vinnie Fernandez: yes.
Barbara Williams: a ten.
Christine Braxton: That's enough to get started
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah. Um,
Christine Braxton: with,
Barbara Enriquez: uh it's
Vinnie Fernandez: Mm.
Barbara Enriquez: just a
Barbara Williams: It's gonna
Barbara Enriquez: scroll
Barbara Williams: be one str
Vinnie Fernandez: How
Christine Braxton: so
Vinnie Fernandez: many
Barbara Williams: scroll.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah, is
Vinnie Fernandez: pages?
Barbara Enriquez: it's horizontal or vertical?
Christine Braxton: Uh, I just took one for every step
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: and then
Barbara Enriquez: I think
Christine Braxton: a
Vinnie Fernandez: Y
Christine Braxton: conclusion.
Vinnie Fernandez: you have
Barbara Williams: Horizontal's
Vinnie Fernandez: you have done the
Barbara Williams: easier
Vinnie Fernandez: first two.
Barbara Williams: too,
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: 'cause you
Vinnie Fernandez: Okay,
Barbara Williams: can
Vinnie Fernandez: and and the look
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: and feel is
Barbara Williams: Is it more natural
Christine Braxton: Well
Barbara Williams: than this?
Christine Braxton: I think I have to make a p
Barbara Williams: So
Christine Braxton: an
Barbara Williams: let's
Christine Braxton: issue
Barbara Williams: say
Christine Braxton: called finance.
Barbara Williams: Whoops. 'Kay.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yes.
Barbara Williams: Basically.
Barbara Enriquez: It doesn't
Vinnie Fernandez: The items
Barbara Enriquez: look like
Vinnie Fernandez: we had
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: to drop.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Uh it it's it's not Yeah. It's not very fashionable anymore. But uh it's okay.
Barbara Williams: It's really ugly.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Where did we start with price? Twenty
Barbara Enriquez: Maybe
Vinnie Fernandez: six
Barbara Enriquez: m make
Vinnie Fernandez: and a half.
Barbara Enriquez: it bigger? Or
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: Or not? Or twenty six? Something like that.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah. That looks little bit more uh Maybe
Barbara Williams: Oh
Barbara Enriquez: that's a s a special colour for it.
Vinnie Fernandez: This?
Barbara Enriquez: So we can make it uh special?
Barbara Williams: What do you mean? Like a other colour than this one?
Barbara Enriquez: Or or speckles in it? I dunno. Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Speckles?
Barbara Williams: Yeah can we do it uh uh can we do a print?
Barbara Enriquez: I'm not sure.
Barbara Williams: I think we
Christine Braxton: ... I.
Barbara Williams: have
Christine Braxton: don't
Barbara Williams: to choose,
Christine Braxton: think so,
Barbara Williams: yeah?
Christine Braxton: if you see
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Christine Braxton: the options. But
Barbara Williams: Okay special colour. We do have special colour. Does it
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah
Barbara Williams: mean uh
Barbara Enriquez: red
Barbara Williams: that
Barbara Enriquez: is already a special colour, I think. So It's
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: not very special, but uh
Barbara Williams: Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Purdy.
Barbara Enriquez: Just
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Some
Barbara Enriquez: put the
Vinnie Fernandez: some
Barbara Enriquez: purple
Vinnie Fernandez: big dots.
Barbara Enriquez: uh purple on it.
Barbara Williams: Purple?
Barbara Enriquez: That's trendy.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah yeah. Oh no
Vinnie Fernandez: ... We. have the
Barbara Williams: my
Vinnie Fernandez: original
Barbara Williams: remote
Vinnie Fernandez: balance
Barbara Williams: has acne.
Vinnie Fernandez: sheet, or
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Woah.
Barbara Williams: No. That's why we have that button.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh yeah.
Barbara Williams: It's so cute.
Barbara Enriquez: Hmm. Oh what?
Barbara Williams: Doh.
Vinnie Fernandez: Woah. Just cut. Control Z_.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh no.
Barbara Williams: Is that that?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: No no. Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: How the
Barbara Enriquez: Oh it's
Barbara Williams: We
Barbara Enriquez: it's just
Barbara Williams: did we do
Barbara Enriquez: one
Barbara Williams: that?
Barbara Enriquez: computer?
Vinnie Fernandez: Just
Barbara Enriquez: Or
Vinnie Fernandez: dual screen.
Barbara Enriquez: No. But can we delete it, just with delete? Or
Barbara Williams: We can try. That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's
Barbara Enriquez: Crashed.
Barbara Williams: No,
Barbara Enriquez: Oh, no.
Vinnie Fernandez: Very
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: nice.
Barbara Williams: Where do you want some more dots?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah, over here. Hmm?
Christine Braxton: You can't even draw anymore.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Even
Barbara Enriquez: What's
Vinnie Fernandez: Y y
Christine Braxton: children
Barbara Enriquez: this?
Vinnie Fernandez: you
Christine Braxton: can draw.
Vinnie Fernandez: you you push the button or something. Or
Christine Braxton: Can you just push
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Christine Braxton: pen
Barbara Enriquez: yeah.
Christine Braxton: and then
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Christine Braxton: keep
Barbara Enriquez: that's
Christine Braxton: on
Barbara Enriquez: the select button. It's
Christine Braxton: Hmm.
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Barbara Williams: Okay, it's not the prettiest, I know.
Barbara Enriquez: No,
Barbara Williams: It's
Barbara Enriquez: it
Vinnie Fernandez: Lot
Barbara Williams: not
Barbara Enriquez: looks
Barbara Williams: so
Vinnie Fernandez: of options.
Barbara Williams: random huh?
Barbara Enriquez: It's okay. Specially the the R_.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, the R_ and another R_.
Barbara Williams: Yeah okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: It's called the Real Remote, right?
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote.
Christine Braxton: Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Welcome.
Barbara Williams: We can make
Christine Braxton: This
Barbara Williams: a
Christine Braxton: is
Barbara Williams: l
Christine Braxton: your
Barbara Williams: a logo.
Christine Braxton: Real Remote.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Like uh
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: put it like the shape.
Barbara Enriquez: D designed by
Barbara Williams: Something like that.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Barbara Williams: I mean it's not too uh That's not their logo, is it?
Barbara Enriquez: No. Do they have a lo Oh, the here. This i this is the logo.
Barbara Williams: Yeah. It's
Barbara Enriquez: Two
Barbara Williams: a
Barbara Enriquez: R_s and a one.
Christine Braxton: Yeah. You can just reuse that, because the name is the same.
Vinnie Fernandez: You can copy
Christine Braxton: Initials.
Vinnie Fernandez: and paste the picture if you want.
Barbara Williams: How Shall we do the logo in black or not?
Christine Braxton: Mm.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. What is that? Look more Looks more like a campfire.
Barbara Williams: Are you dissing my drawing? This one?
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: It looks like a ribbon.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Barbara Williams: So who wants to draw? This is actually quite fun. Do we need to do anything? I hear you
Barbara Enriquez: Are
Barbara Williams: people
Barbara Enriquez: we uh ready?
Barbara Williams: are typing.
Barbara Enriquez: Uh Or
Vinnie Fernandez: Type in your report.
Barbara Williams: Oh, okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: I don't see any new messages. So
Christine Braxton: Luckily.
Vinnie Fernandez: Hmm? Luckily, yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Is this uh the last assignment? Or
Christine Braxton: Yeah, it's uh
Barbara Enriquez: Final
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: It's almost four.
Vinnie Fernandez: What time do we have to deliver the report? Four o'clock or
Barbara Williams: At four, yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: Or before that?
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: Just
Christine Braxton: And
Vinnie Fernandez: compare
Christine Braxton: copy this.
Vinnie Fernandez: uh
Christine Braxton: Just a minute.
Barbara Williams: This is really bizarre.
Christine Braxton: It's
Barbara Williams: It looks like there's a It looks
Barbara Enriquez: Um
Barbara Williams: like
Barbara Enriquez: bug.
Barbara Williams: a butterfly.
Barbara Enriquez: Bug.
Christine Braxton: It's somewhere I
Barbara Enriquez: No
Christine Braxton: d
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Christine Braxton: It
Barbara Enriquez: in inside
Christine Braxton: isn't inside.
Barbara Enriquez: the
Christine Braxton: Yeah, and don't know how it's
Vinnie Fernandez: No it's
Christine Braxton: or
Vinnie Fernandez: on
Christine Braxton: eject
Vinnie Fernandez: the on
Christine Braxton: it.
Vinnie Fernandez: the beamer I guess.
Barbara Enriquez: No it Oh.
Barbara Williams: No, but it
Christine Braxton: From
Barbara Williams: i
Christine Braxton: up there?
Barbara Williams: It's not a bu a beamer.
Christine Braxton: No.
Barbara Williams: B It's a normal T_V_ screen, kind of thing.
Barbara Enriquez: Hey,
Christine Braxton: Yeah it's
Barbara Enriquez: you've
Christine Braxton: somewhere
Barbara Enriquez: got it
Christine Braxton: in
Barbara Enriquez: uh
Christine Braxton: here.
Barbara Enriquez: read only. So you have to uh
Christine Braxton: Save copy.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: from behind, I guess.
Barbara Enriquez: It's too uh
Barbara Williams: Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.
Christine Braxton: Yes.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah it it's a beamer, but then with
Barbara Williams: With
Vinnie Fernandez: a within
Barbara Williams: a
Vinnie Fernandez: a
Barbara Williams: with a mirror, huh?
Vinnie Fernandez: mirror,
Barbara Williams: Or something.
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: So it looks like a big screen, but in fact it isn't.
Barbara Williams: So are we gonna
Barbara Enriquez: It
Barbara Williams: change
Barbara Enriquez: is
Barbara Williams: anything to this? I mean is
Vinnie Fernandez: Well
Barbara Williams: it gonna
Vinnie Fernandez: it's it's
Christine Braxton: Well
Vinnie Fernandez: single single
Barbara Enriquez: It's
Vinnie Fernandez: curved.
Barbara Enriquez: now single curved. So
Vinnie Fernandez: Th this
Barbara Williams: This
Vinnie Fernandez: is
Barbara Williams: is
Barbara Enriquez: It's
Vinnie Fernandez: flat.
Barbara Williams: gonna be
Barbara Enriquez: flat.
Barbara Williams: flat. Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Barbara Williams: exactly.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: no. Okay. It doesn't matter. It's
Vinnie Fernandez: But it's
Barbara Enriquez: it's
Vinnie Fernandez: it's better to have in the front, this kind of shape, because it looks nice. I mean you see more of this than of that.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah, more like that.
Barbara Williams: Yeah. And this is also gonna be
Vinnie Fernandez: It's not very uh ideal.
Barbara Williams: Nope.
Vinnie Fernandez: Do like this.
Barbara Williams: But sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. What's this?
Barbara Enriquez: That's the detector uh for the
Vinnie Fernandez: Ooh.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: But
Barbara Williams: Maybe
Vinnie Fernandez: I don't see a detector over there.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah. I don't know.
Barbara Williams: No it's I think you only need two points. Or not. No,
Vinnie Fernandez: I
Barbara Williams: you sh
Vinnie Fernandez: thought it was a kind of thing to put it on, and then draw right
Barbara Enriquez: Maybe that's
Vinnie Fernandez: lines
Barbara Enriquez: why
Vinnie Fernandez: or something.
Barbara Enriquez: it's it's not working, because it's more
Barbara Williams: Slanted yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Or just messed it up.
Barbara Williams: Well maybe.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh. Oh yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: it it matters for the aim of this
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: thing.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah but it wasn't good.
Barbara Enriquez: You've to make it s uh ninety degrees.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah it it has to touch the corners, I guess. But th this one wasn't good, because if I was drawing here, I drew a line and then it came over here.
Christine Braxton: Um now you probably have to recalibrate.
Barbara Enriquez: You have
Christine Braxton: Oh, five minutes to the end of the meeting.
Vinnie Fernandez: Oh.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh we're always
Christine Braxton: And
Barbara Enriquez: long.
Christine Braxton: the recalibration is done using this icon here.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah,
Vinnie Fernandez: Ooh.
Barbara Enriquez: can we t can we get to that i Oh it's not working anymore.
Christine Braxton: Yeah well I just
Barbara Enriquez: Oh
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: yeah,
Barbara Enriquez: yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: it's
Barbara Enriquez: yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: it's
Barbara Enriquez: yeah, it's
Vinnie Fernandez: okay.
Barbara Enriquez: it's working, it's working.
Vinnie Fernandez: It's working again.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: It's better than before.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: We're improving uh Yeah.
Christine Braxton: You go ahead.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: that's improved uh pretty much.
Barbara Williams: Yeah it's only a bit like to
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: that side, but that is that one by the way.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah but
Barbara Williams: 'Cause
Vinnie Fernandez: it's better,
Barbara Enriquez: No it
Vinnie Fernandez: it's
Barbara Williams: this
Vinnie Fernandez: better
Barbara Williams: one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this, it will go there,
Vinnie Fernandez: Mm.
Barbara Williams: if I change that, will go there.
Vinnie Fernandez: No. It's better than it was I guess.
Barbara Williams: Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.
Vinnie Fernandez: Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: meeting's over. And
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: then? We have
Christine Braxton: Then
Vinnie Fernandez: to present
Christine Braxton: I have to uh uh write this, and I don't know if you have to present, because I didn't receive any information about that so far.
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Barbara Williams: Maybe we will.
Christine Braxton: Maybe
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Christine Braxton: we get
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Christine Braxton: a
Vinnie Fernandez: after
Christine Braxton: a final
Vinnie Fernandez: the after
Christine Braxton: mail.
Vinnie Fernandez: after these five minutes,
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: you have to
Christine Braxton: Yeah, I have still ten minutes
Barbara Williams: What's
Christine Braxton: to finish
Barbara Williams: this anyway?
Christine Braxton: the report.
Barbara Enriquez: So
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Barbara Enriquez: cake.
Vinnie Fernandez: After after that five minutes,
Barbara Williams: It
Vinnie Fernandez: you have
Barbara Williams: looks
Vinnie Fernandez: ten
Barbara Williams: like
Vinnie Fernandez: minutes
Barbara Williams: candle
Vinnie Fernandez: to finish
Barbara Williams: wax.
Vinnie Fernandez: it, or
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright. And we uh
Christine Braxton: And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee
Vinnie Fernandez: Right.
Christine Braxton: or
Vinnie Fernandez: Chill.
Christine Braxton: oh no, they don't have beer here so
Vinnie Fernandez: Huh.
Christine Braxton: you can't celebrate. You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Uh
Christine Braxton: over there.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah?
Christine Braxton: The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh Yeah next.
Vinnie Fernandez: Next slide.
Christine Braxton: Oh yeah, we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah?
Christine Braxton: Uh
Vinnie Fernandez: How do you do it?
Christine Braxton: Uh well basically what that says, we discuss it and um So
Vinnie Fernandez: Alright.
Christine Braxton: how were did the project process uh go? Did you, were you all pleased with the process as it was? Or
Barbara Williams: Uh
Christine Braxton: are there
Barbara Williams: th
Christine Braxton: uh
Barbara Williams: uh do you mean the the interaction between
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Barbara Williams: us?
Christine Braxton: the interaction
Barbara Williams: Or
Christine Braxton: and the steps we followed, and and so forth.
Barbara Williams: Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: it went a bit fast. But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on, the second time I think I did a bit better.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: And the third time yeah, I
Vinnie Fernandez: And
Barbara Williams: mean
Vinnie Fernandez: we move
Barbara Enriquez: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: more to to working together as team, because
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: at first you you make your individual contribution, and then come here, and you have no idea what the
Barbara Enriquez: No.
Vinnie Fernandez: others have to make.
Barbara Williams: Yeah, yeah yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: And then
Barbara Williams: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: finally you have some idea, okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: you will arrange that, and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So The
Barbara Williams: Yeah
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: process,
Barbara Williams: we
Vinnie Fernandez: I mean, the interaction between us became better and better
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: I guess.
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Enriquez: Especially
Barbara Williams: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Enriquez: after the first meeting.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah,
Barbara Enriquez: And
Vinnie Fernandez: especially if f f if you see uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: meeting
Barbara Williams: Definitely.
Vinnie Fernandez: I guess.
Christine Braxton: Okay and was that due to my leadership?
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah yeah yeah.
Barbara Williams: Well you did become more assertive the the second time round, so that
Christine Braxton: Yeah?
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: That okay?
Barbara Williams: You were more in charge kind of thing.
Christine Braxton: Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity?
Barbara Williams: I guess so.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah but
Barbara Williams: I mean
Barbara Enriquez: only the the financial parts uh
Vinnie Fernandez: Li Limiteded
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: afterwards, but If if you don't take that into account, there's plenty
Barbara Williams: I
Vinnie Fernandez: of room for creativ creativity. Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself, but also in explaining it to the other people, by means of uh
Barbara Williams: We were pretty democratic.
Vinnie Fernandez: the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like
Christine Braxton: So
Vinnie Fernandez: that.
Christine Braxton: and the uh about the board digital pen? Uh was that
Barbara Williams: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: helpful or
Vinnie Fernandez: Mm
Christine Braxton: Ooh.
Vinnie Fernandez: uh I think in in essence the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better. I
Christine Braxton: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: mean uh uh
Christine Braxton: it
Vinnie Fernandez: I've
Christine Braxton: works.
Vinnie Fernandez: made yeah, uh I've made several notes just to test it, and and just put the pen in into it, and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly.
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: So
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Vinnie Fernandez: it it's better a better device than uh than the screen.
Barbara Williams: Maybe Yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: But the screen is useful, in essence, but it doesn't work that well.
Barbara Williams: It's uh it's The the pen is more intuitive, 'cause we're all used to writing
Christine Braxton: Use
Barbara Williams: with
Christine Braxton: the
Barbara Williams: pen.
Christine Braxton: pen.
Barbara Williams: And uh as I said, uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works, so will take Vinnie Fernandez half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: But once I get to know the program probably, I mean, it looks better, you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style, like we have i the the logo and everything.
Christine Braxton: Yeah yeah.
Barbara Williams: And
Vinnie Fernandez: Yep.
Barbara Williams: I don't know.
Christine Braxton: Blink. Oh.
Vinnie Fernandez: Warning. Finish
Barbara Enriquez: Finish
Vinnie Fernandez: meeting
Barbara Enriquez: meeting.
Vinnie Fernandez: now.
Christine Braxton: Okay, are are there any new ideas about this? All I think I
Vinnie Fernandez: Well,
Christine Braxton: didn't
Vinnie Fernandez: it
Christine Braxton: really receive,
Vinnie Fernandez: It's use
Christine Braxton: yeah.
Vinnie Fernandez: especially useful, I guess, to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff.
Christine Braxton: Uh uh
Vinnie Fernandez: And and
Christine Braxton: w uh S sorry uh
Vinnie Fernandez: the screen and stuff like that.
Christine Braxton: Mm-hmm.
Barbara Enriquez: I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint, so that you can just easily
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for Vinnie Fernandez is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: well. You
Christine Braxton: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: know, you can draw something on
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Barbara Williams: the sketch-board and then take it there, or whatever.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to
Barbara Enriquez: Yeah
Vinnie Fernandez: an
Barbara Enriquez: just
Vinnie Fernandez: a small
Barbara Enriquez: for text,
Vinnie Fernandez: audience, and
Barbara Enriquez: for
Vinnie Fernandez: then
Barbara Enriquez: text
Vinnie Fernandez: to
Barbara Enriquez: it's uh it's okay. But
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So Yes.
Christine Braxton: Oh.
Vinnie Fernandez: Check your email.
Christine Braxton: Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire.
Vinnie Fernandez: You also.
Barbara Enriquez: 'Kay.
Christine Braxton: Ah. Woah.
Barbara Williams: Alright.
Vinnie Fernandez: Right.
Christine Braxton: Okay.
Barbara Enriquez: Okay.
Christine Braxton: Uh okay.
Barbara Williams: Alright.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yes boss.
Barbara Williams: Well,
Christine Braxton: That's
Barbara Williams: s
Christine Braxton: the management.
Barbara Williams: see you in a second huh?
Vinnie Fernandez: Well see you soon.
Barbara Enriquez: Oh. Okay.
Christine Braxton: Hope so.
Vinnie Fernandez: Yeah.
Christine Braxton: Um
Barbara Williams: Yeah we have to pull it this way, huh? Wait. | Christine Braxton decided to start by looking at costs instead of the prototype presentation because the original design was too expensive and had to be changed. The group discussed which features should be dropped. The group decided that the LCD screen was integral to their design, but dropped the speech recognition. They decided to drop all the buttons in favour of an integrated scroll push-button, and to use a hand dynamo instead of kinetic energy as a power source. Vinnie Fernandez led the prototype evaluation, based on the new design. The group were satisfied with the overall score of 3.1. Barbara Williams and user interface designer worked on a drawing of the new design, while Christine Braxton and marketing manager worked on the final report. Christine Braxton led an evaluation of the project process. The group thought that they worked well together, especially after the first meeting. They were happy with the room for creativity, but thought they were limited by the budget. They preferred the digital pens to the SMARTboard. They had mixed feelings about using PowerPoint. | 2 | amisum | test |
Norma Mcneal: Hello.
Cherrie Chandler: Hey guys.
Anna Libengood: Hi.
Beverly Ware: Hi.
Norma Mcneal: Hi.
Anna Libengood: I see my bunny is still standing
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: No. one drawing
Norma Mcneal: It's
Anna Libengood: it.
Norma Mcneal: too beautiful.
Beverly Ware: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: Uh
Beverly Ware: true.
Anna Libengood: I figured uh that much.
Cherrie Chandler: Too wicked.
Beverly Ware: Mm.
Norma Mcneal: A minute please, my uh laptop is uh oh, there it is, thank you.
Norma Mcneal: So welcome back. At the functional design meeting um the plan is uh that uh each one of you, so not Cherrie Chandler but only you uh will uh present uh the the things you worked on uh the last uh half hour. I will uh take minutes and will put uh the minutes that I have at the end of the session in the shared. Also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared folder now, so you can read that uh now or afterwards. Um uh I had an email from the from the management board uh, I don't know if you a al also uh received it, but there were four points uh which uh I think are very important. First one is uh they think that uh teletext teletext becomes outdated uh and internet will be the the main uh focus. Uh second one is also important uh, because it's one of the discussion points of the previous session. Uh the remote control shou should onl only be used for the television, so it uh not gonna it's not gonna be a multi-purpose remote control, so uh that's one thing to keep in mind. Uh second, and I think that's important for the Marketing uh Expert, uh the current uh customers uh are in the age group group of uh forty years and older, but with this uh new remote uh they uh will uh would like to reach uh a group uh younger than uh forty. Uh and uh I think to keep in mind, but not really uh for now is that they uh want the the the slogan and the and the logo uh to uh to be recognised more in the remote. So, we have uh forty minutes, so I think uh not more than ten minutes uh uh per presentation uh each, and please uh use uh all the the the facilities so that you have either SMARTboards, the the Word files, what you uh whatever you want. So uh Tim, can you start?
Cherrie Chandler: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah?
Cherrie Chandler: 'Kay, welcome. I have some uh new findings on uh Marketing Expert
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm
Cherrie Chandler: level, which I will show you. The method I used was um giving orders to our usability lab uh to do a questionnaire. Um one hundred respondents were involved and my marketing uh department generated a report with a lot of results. Um, these were a couple of findings, first page of three. Um, we have three audiences of two audiences, I'm sorry. Uh the first one, this scale, from sixteen to forty five age. Uh the second one is from sixty four uh forty six to sixty five. Um, as you can see here, the market share for the first audience is about sixty percent um sixty five. Uh second audience audience is uh thirty five percent. Mm and some interests from the from the age groups, uh it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy uh new technology stuff, like uh an L_C_D_ screen on the remote control, um speech recognition. I don't think that's uh really appropriate. Um, and when you see uh the audience, the age is going up uh Yeah, they don't really want it anymore, at least the new technologies. Second findings out of the questionnaire um are the opinion the opinions uh of the audience about current remote controls. First point is, seventy five percent of the users find the most repo remote controls very ugly, uh and eighty percent of the users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. So that's maybe something for the User Interface uh Designer. Okay, third findings. According to the frequency of use versus importance investigation, um following buttons are most important. Um, I will tell something about the way this uh this test was, yeah, done. Um, persons were asked uh what the buttons were uh they use most,
Norma Mcneal: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: how much an hour, and uh in the second table the importance of those buttons. Um, when you multiply them, you get the these three points. Switching channels, um yeah, that's pretty uh pretty normal, that's what you do with a remote control. Um the second, teletext, uh and the third, uh volume controls. Um, I think it's good uh that we know what the user want wants, uh at least the these three points have to be uh very
Norma Mcneal: But
Cherrie Chandler: clear.
Norma Mcneal: it's strange that the the manage board the management board said that the teletext will be uh outdated by the internet.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: So
Cherrie Chandler: okay.
Norma Mcneal: that that's strange.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, okay, but uh at the moment uh teletext is Yeah, th the best thing you can get uh on T_V_,
Norma Mcneal: Yeah, okay.
Cherrie Chandler: like getting information. So
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: uh, when you ask people, what do they use, they use teletext and not
Norma Mcneal: Okay.
Cherrie Chandler: the internet on a remote control.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah, okay.
Cherrie Chandler: That's ridiculous.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: That's a ne i it It's a new technology, but
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: it's not incorporated right now. Okay, my personal preferences. Um, I think we should aim at the uh audience from sixteen to forty five. Mm, first of all um it's the biggest share, the biggest audience, sixty five percent. Uh second, I think you will get the most revenue from i from it. Um, yeah, people from sixteen to forty five watch a lot of T_V_, more than uh people who are el uh elder. Um second point, we have to impro improve the most used functions, as I said here, switching channels, teletext and volume controls. Third point um that came out of the uh of the questionnaire, uh people used to uh get lost off the remote controller, so maybe it's an idea for us uh to design ex kind of placeholder
Norma Mcneal: Yeah, that's
Cherrie Chandler: uh
Norma Mcneal: a cool idea.
Cherrie Chandler: on side of the, yeah, of the T_V_ where you can put the the remote control in. Um, that's about it, I think. Yeah.
Anna Libengood: When you mentioned uh improving functions, what uh what do you mean by that
Cherrie Chandler: Uh
Anna Libengood: what
Cherrie Chandler: not not
Anna Libengood: what are
Cherrie Chandler: the
Anna Libengood: you think
Cherrie Chandler: r
Anna Libengood: about?
Cherrie Chandler: not the functions, but
Anna Libengood: Uh, the
Cherrie Chandler: uh
Anna Libengood: funtionability.
Cherrie Chandler: it came out that a lot of buttons weren't even used uh on a remote control. So you can have a remote control full of buttons, a hundreds hundreds of buttons, but if you don't use them,
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: yeah it's
Anna Libengood: Ah okay, so focusing more on the used
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: buttons.
Cherrie Chandler: they have to be on it
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: j just to t to get it done if necessary, but um the most used buttons uh have to be bigger or
Anna Libengood: Could you use perhaps uh one button for multiple functions, like example pressing it in longer makes it switch to an different function for
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: example.
Cherrie Chandler: perhaps. Just
Anna Libengood: Thank you.
Cherrie Chandler: for the minor functions perhaps.
Anna Libengood: Yeah, ma perhaps just, just an idea.
Cherrie Chandler: Just to get less buttons on the remote control, to make it easier and quicker to learn.
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah? 'Kay, that's it.
Norma Mcneal: Thank you, Tim.
Anna Libengood: Uh
Norma Mcneal: Janus, can
Anna Libengood: yeah
Norma Mcneal: you
Anna Libengood: yeah,
Norma Mcneal: uh
Anna Libengood: I'll go, sure.
Anna Libengood: Right uh, I'll be uh explaining a bit about uh working design about uh the project. Well uh what I did was I dissected uh uh current remote controls and um I viewed how how they w looked, how they worked, uh what kind of components are involved, and how they are connected together. And uh after that I put up a scheme about how uh these things are organised and I'll show it to you in in a in a few seconds. And I'll explain a bit about uh how it works and how we could uh build one and why I think several possibilities uh that we discussed in the earlier meeting falls off. Um right. Uh well what I did was uh I I checked uh remote controls and the uh remote controls of today are all infrared, not like all probably know. And the thing about that is um the remote controls uh have to act as a T_V_ or uh a stereo or something, and those uh have a transmitter that's also focused on infrared, so if we want to uh build uh mm a remote control uh with Bluetooth for instance then uh the T_V_ should have Bluetooth too in order to communicate, so that would mean extra cost for the user and thus uh that's that wouldn't mean a a cheap uh remote control for us. So that's probably why most controls are still infrared. Furthermore they all have uh a a very simple structure, so that would probably uh mean lower costs and uh i that could mean for us a good thing uh 'cause uh well we we should be able to build a relatively cheap uh a cheap uh remote. Well uh as I mentioned ready, we have some Bluetooth Well it may be possible, but uh I figured it wouldn't be possible in within our budget, but that's not for Cherrie Chandler to decide, but that's maybe something for marketing to look into. F because uh well my personal opinion is uh is not to do uh Bluetooth or or radio waves, although
Cherrie Chandler: What do you think about uh incorporating Bluetooth or a radio uh receiver uh in the place-holder next to the T_V_, connected to the T_V_?
Anna Libengood: Yeah, actually
Cherrie Chandler: So
Anna Libengood: I have
Cherrie Chandler: it's
Anna Libengood: t
Cherrie Chandler: in the wrong product.
Anna Libengood: Yeah. Yeah, I actually I figured that would be that would be rather nice, but then you'd still have the uh the infrared function. So
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: in in theory you'd actually just move the problem,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: but uh what I did uh think about was when you mentioned about the uh the cup-holder, is why not uh introduce a speech function like where is the remote. If somebody says, where is the remote, then it goes uh beep uh beep beep beep or something, I dunno, maybe uh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: maybe something to look into, I dunno uh what the cost that something like that would be. But it may be uh may be something to explore. Uh I'll I'll just explain a bit of the components. Uh first you have the energy source. The energy source would be a battery, simple uh battery uh that you can find anywhere. I figured that would be best, 'cause when the battery uh stops functioning uh we could just uh use you could just go out and buy a new one. So we didn't and we don't have to do all uh to be too complicated about that. Uh the energy source is connected to the infrared button, but uh the infrared button uh works only via the chip and the subcomponent to uh the switch there is a switch uh between these. When the switch is pressed in a w on this this case it switches a button, when a button is prush pushed in, uh a electric current goes through here, and in uh immediately, a l a bulb lights up uh displaying to the user that something has happened. That's uh that's so the h user won't be um thinking, well uh did the button be pressed, w what happened uh. Or I press button but nothing's happening on the T_V_, so is is something wrong or something. So that's just to uh to to explain the of to to uh make it clearer to the user. Uh w well the signal goes via chip that's translated into uh electric sig uh electronic signals and then it's processed and then it's sent to the infrared bulb where it will be uh uh received on the receiving end. And those uh interpreted by the device, well in this case the television. Uh well my personal preferences here, well we have to keep it simple. Not too many uh gadgets and functions, just like you said uh well the most users n uh you have a lot of buttons and you u u use you don't use them, w spend more time on those. Uh I I think we should stick by with infrared transmitting and uh no receiving. So uh no input from the television. So I think we shouldn't be uh spending time on um teletext and st things like that, because when you uh want teletext on uh infrared you'd have to build in a receiver too, and so in order to receive the signals from uh what's on T_V_ and such. So I figure that would be uh spending too much money and time and
Cherrie Chandler: Um, yeah, maybe another problem uh, I think current T_V_s can even send
Anna Libengood: Yes,
Cherrie Chandler: infrared.
Anna Libengood: but what should we uh s I I I f I agree with you, but should
Cherrie Chandler: Huh.
Anna Libengood: we spend money or and time on building a receiver into the uh remote control?
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm.
Anna Libengood: 'Cause that would be I mean extra components, extra
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: designs, um larger g uh remote control.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: These all uh all stuff that we have to take in account. So I I my personal opinion is no no no receiver at all. Um,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: well we should uh look into the design and the functionability. Like I said, uh use one button for instance for m multiple functions, or well uh just hide the few buttons o of switching it open or something, the usual uh stuff. And uh don't overbuild, we shouldn't make a big uh remote control for simple functions, but we we should stick to the basics. So that was my uh my personal opinion. And that was my uh my presentation uh
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: Okay, thank you Janus.
Beverly Ware: Yes, I can go
Norma Mcneal: You do?
Beverly Ware: ahead.
Norma Mcneal: The last presentation.
Beverly Ware: Last presentation.
Norma Mcneal: You have plenty of time,
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: Tim and uh Janus don't uh talk to ten minutes, so uh take your time. If you take your time too long I will uh eventually uh warn you.
Beverly Ware: Well, I'm going to give a presentation abut some of the technical functions of these design and uh usability functions. Um what's my opinion about what's most important to combine the design, technical possibilities and the user friendliness in one, so if you um going to design a remote that looks good, that shouldn't weigh over the if it's possible to make, but also the user friendliness, so tha that's that's some of the main points. And another one is um the use um of many functions will will make it more difficult, so use as as little functions as possible or at least don't display them all at once on the same remote. If you have fifty functions
Cherrie Chandler: Hmm.
Beverly Ware: you don't want fifty buttons uh t uh to be shown at the same time, 'cause when you visit an internet uh site you don't want fifty links uh to see, but maybe use a hierarch hierarchy uh structure. And uh well one of the ideas was maybe uh use touch screen, but s I don't know in how far
Cherrie Chandler: Hmm.
Beverly Ware: that is possible, since we are sticking to uh um infrared and and the remote cannot receive anything, but uh we might uh consider that. Um well, of course I I hope this is all clear to you. If you you can use remote like this with all the functions, many functions, but Well, your thumb is a little bigger than th it than this. You have to be very careful what you push, and um if you're looking for teletext you'll be uh searching for half an hour from uh um yeah well, where is it? Where the hell he here I guess and, yeah, when you have to uh use something else. So just keep it simple, make clear buttons, easy to use. For example if you want to use a play and back and stop, that's very important. Um well this was because of our last discussion, if multiple machines are used, create easy switch between the machines, but um it's no longer uh applying. Well yeah, I prefer to use it only for T_V_ and um n uh not to give too many options and and if possible, uh the buttons should give a dr direct action, not first select
Norma Mcneal: Uh you you just said um uh you wanted to to combine more functions in one,
Beverly Ware: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: so
Beverly Ware: and
Norma Mcneal: uh
Beverly Ware: so
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: you
Beverly Ware: that's
Anna Libengood: but
Beverly Ware: where
Norma Mcneal: you
Beverly Ware: the difficulties
Norma Mcneal: want to keep it simple,
Beverly Ware: lie.
Norma Mcneal: but I think that if you want to do that, then you can't escape the the fact that there will be buttons uh which give s uh more options than one.
Beverly Ware: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: this so
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: that's
Anna Libengood: but
Beverly Ware: the thing you have to weigh against each other. Do we want to use a few options and might not be so or original,
Norma Mcneal: Mm-hmm.
Beverly Ware: or uh multi-purpose as we thought,
Norma Mcneal: Okay.
Beverly Ware: or do we want to use um many buttons.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: So um weighing those factors.
Cherrie Chandler: Hmm it's maybe an option uh if you use an L_C_D_ or a touch screen um, that in the middle are the the main keys, like displayed on the Uh yeah.
Beverly Ware: The doesn't.
Cherrie Chandler: this? No? Yeah. Something like that. Okay, just uh in the middle the general functions, like play, uh channel switching,
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: and then uh at the top or at the bottom, some menus like uh settings or that you can drop down.
Beverly Ware: Yeah, but when all the questions I had Do we want to use uh a menu display on the T_V_? Or um does have to f everything uh be in remotes? 'Cause if you use
Cherrie Chandler: Mm.
Beverly Ware: a memory display on the T_V_, you can simply push uh a more menu and then select the options you want to have and press okay. Uh so that's my recommendation,
Cherrie Chandler: Nah.
Beverly Ware: if you use many options in one buttle button,
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm.
Beverly Ware: um display the menu on the T_V_ and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: don't um use combination of t of two buttons at the same time or pressing buttons three times for five seconds, is
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: too complicated for most users.
Cherrie Chandler: I
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Cherrie Chandler: think
Anna Libengood: but
Cherrie Chandler: so too, but and that's partly because um uh a lot of T_V_s have different menus, and when you have a particular menu uh at your device, uh it could be that don't correspond to the menu what's actually on T_V_.
Beverly Ware: Yeah, that will be a problem.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: Well you d you have to keep in mind that uh several T_V_s uh don't even have a menu structure, or they have a very simple menu structure, so you have to keep in mind that not all uh d not our remote won't be able to work on all televisions.
Beverly Ware: Yes.
Anna Libengood: And that would be uh a
Beverly Ware: So
Anna Libengood: considerable
Beverly Ware: if
Anna Libengood: problem.
Beverly Ware: we have to stick with current technologies and uh um well yeah, the restrictions of what's uh is on the market today,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: um you should keep it s at this. Use big clear buttons. Not too many. So maybe we'll loose a few option uh options, but I think i this is more important. Um especially the important buttons, um if you want to switch channel, change your volume, uh use teletext, it uh it has to work at once and more advanced options may be
Anna Libengood: Not embed
Beverly Ware: put it s somewhere away on the remote, behind uh
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: a
Anna Libengood: but
Beverly Ware: little
Anna Libengood: then with something
Beverly Ware: uh
Anna Libengood: like a touch
Beverly Ware: little
Anna Libengood: screen
Beverly Ware: thing
Anna Libengood: could
Beverly Ware: or a touch
Anna Libengood: could make
Beverly Ware: screen.
Anna Libengood: more menu up pop up or
Beverly Ware: And
Anna Libengood: something.
Beverly Ware: yeah, if you want to uh uh s put on stand-by or change the channel, that should always be possible to do. Not first change menu options or
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: switch something. Um, well yeah, as you already told, give some feedback.
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: If the user is pushing a button he should know if the television or n at least remote is reacting and not just that the batteries may be low. And um, well, my conclusion is uh is uh less is more, keep it simple. So uh maybe we should just ease down on the functionality to uh to keep it accessible on t because you all know, if there are a lot of function on the the television, some you you'll never know uh and never use, and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: therefore it's uh important if you want to change the volume or channel that is always accessible and easy and other functions um that are not so important um well you we should consider just not using them
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah. Uh, I think the idea uh about uh touch screen um is very good. Um, because recently uh I saw news item on T_V_ um about uh new telephones uh for elder people. Um, they have like a touch screen with uh really big pictures on it like uh uh call uh hang-up, um and that's a big ad advantage I think, because one the one hand uh you make the remote control compatible for elder users just by uh scaling up the pictures or something.
Norma Mcneal: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: It's uh very visual intended. What was I to say more?
Beverly Ware: Maybe that's an option. Um keep the primary buttons visible.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: Uh make a remote that fits easily in the hands and for some design issues uh well, put a logo on it and maybe use it uh in some aesthetic uh aesthetic form. But uh th the important buttons m make them always accessible and pushable and clear and maybe use a touch screen, or if that's uh will become too difficult just uh like televi some o older telephones use a l uh maybe it's possible to to flip them open and uh just expand the number of options that are normally visible.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah okay,
Beverly Ware: Um
Cherrie Chandler: but but if you pick the the idea, the left idea
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: then what's gonna be displayed on the touch screen?
Anna Libengood: The extra functions.
Beverly Ware: The extra functions,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: you uh
Cherrie Chandler: but
Beverly Ware: you
Cherrie Chandler: l
Beverly Ware: just
Cherrie Chandler: like
Beverly Ware: see
Cherrie Chandler: menu
Beverly Ware: a menu
Cherrie Chandler: functions
Beverly Ware: from
Cherrie Chandler: or
Beverly Ware: system
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: functions or teletext functions, and you just choose one, and then
Cherrie Chandler: Ah
Beverly Ware: all
Cherrie Chandler: okay.
Beverly Ware: all the options will become available and you just c s yeah t scroll through them.
Anna Libengood: Wouldn't it be better to make just one big touch screen,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, I
Anna Libengood: uh one
Cherrie Chandler: think
Anna Libengood: one
Cherrie Chandler: so.
Anna Libengood: small uh touch screen uh applet and uh I'll just make um uh let's say fifteen buttons on it, and uh we have three of those, uh actually just uh menus with sub-menus, with or sub-items,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: sub-functions.
Beverly Ware: Well um then I'd like to make a proposal. If you make one big touch screen,
Anna Libengood: Yes.
Beverly Ware: use the same concept as here, keep the buttons
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: always available
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: and use the lower part of the touch screen for the rest.
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: yeah, like like the iPod idea that
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: that we just saw. You just have a f a few selected buttons and uh a few menus, and with this idea you could actually make uh several you can also improve uh later on.
Beverly Ware: Yes.
Anna Libengood: Uh uh I think that will be great.
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: So you think it's will be better to have a t kinda total touch screen.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, I think so.
Anna Libengood: Yeah, I wou I would actually go for
Norma Mcneal: Jirun?
Anna Libengood: the
Beverly Ware: Okay, I agree, but I think it's very important that they always um make the same buttons accessible, so use just for special options a part of the touch screen.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, of
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: course.
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: And so um an elder designer picks up th the of an elder parents or
Norma Mcneal: Yeah
Beverly Ware: grandparent
Norma Mcneal: yeah yeah.
Beverly Ware: picks up the remote from the little child and who's all in the systems functions, you'll have to have the possibility to turn off the T_V_ or to switch the channel without um well using all the menu structures to get back to the primary functions.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, I had another uh idea about maybe parental control.
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: Um, like building in uh some kind of PIN code uh which allows uh parents to switch to all channels,
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: uh but children uh if children don't don't know the PIN code,
Beverly Ware: Yeah
Cherrie Chandler: they
Beverly Ware: wh
Cherrie Chandler: can't switch to uh violent uh
Beverly Ware: Is that possible
Cherrie Chandler: channels or
Beverly Ware: to use
Anna Libengood: That
Beverly Ware: or no?
Anna Libengood: is possible, that well
Cherrie Chandler: Th
Anna Libengood: that actually
Cherrie Chandler: there's
Anna Libengood: depends
Cherrie Chandler: just
Anna Libengood: on the television, but I
Beverly Ware: Well,
Anna Libengood: think I
Beverly Ware: yeah
Anna Libengood: figure
Beverly Ware: well,
Anna Libengood: that would
Beverly Ware: does
Anna Libengood: be
Beverly Ware: it have
Cherrie Chandler: Ju
Beverly Ware: to depend
Cherrie Chandler: just a simple
Beverly Ware: on the television?
Cherrie Chandler: log-in, something
Anna Libengood: Well,
Cherrie Chandler: like that.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: y you s you see the fi uh thing is when you buy a remote, you you set the uh channels,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: the the channels are different on each te television, they
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: aren't set in a preset order, so uh if you uh lock on a remote, uh let's say channel fifteen,
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm.
Anna Libengood: well channel fifteen on this television is different than channel fifteen on the other
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: television,
Cherrie Chandler: okay.
Anna Libengood: so that would be uh that would be
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: actually the main concern.
Beverly Ware: Well, I
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: think that he means that um maybe by some option uh make sure that um remote control and the T_V_ match, and then after that you can um use some s insert some passwords as being apparent that the children cannot use this uh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: change the settings of the T_V_, like colour and then volume and uh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, th that kind of stuff, but maybe um if you log in first as
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: a parent um, you address the the channels
Anna Libengood: Yes.
Cherrie Chandler: and like uh oh, that's channel fifteen, that's uh vi violent channel,
Beverly Ware: Oh,
Anna Libengood: Yes.
Cherrie Chandler: uh
Beverly Ware: something
Cherrie Chandler: m my
Beverly Ware: like
Cherrie Chandler: ki
Beverly Ware: that.
Cherrie Chandler: my kids uh I don't want my kids to watch that,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: then you set the priority to only parents,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Okay, yeah.
Beverly Ware: Well
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: b
Cherrie Chandler: for
Anna Libengood: that
Cherrie Chandler: example.
Anna Libengood: would b
Beverly Ware: but make
Cherrie Chandler: But
Beverly Ware: it a separate option in the menu,
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: so
Anna Libengood: that.
Beverly Ware: that it's
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah
Beverly Ware: it's
Cherrie Chandler: okay,
Beverly Ware: dif
Cherrie Chandler: but
Beverly Ware: dis displayed
Cherrie Chandler: but
Beverly Ware: from uh
Cherrie Chandler: yeah, that's
Beverly Ware: displayed
Cherrie Chandler: just
Beverly Ware: here, so uh
Cherrie Chandler: that's
Beverly Ware: parents
Cherrie Chandler: an a
Beverly Ware: uh
Cherrie Chandler: an added
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: feature.
Norma Mcneal: Okay. But let's not uh go too wide about the those things, that's
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: that
Cherrie Chandler: th
Norma Mcneal: why we're
Cherrie Chandler: th
Norma Mcneal: here.
Cherrie Chandler: those
Norma Mcneal: It's
Cherrie Chandler: things
Norma Mcneal: it's
Cherrie Chandler: are
Norma Mcneal: a nice
Cherrie Chandler: nice.
Norma Mcneal: idea, but I think that's we wel later in the stage. I've one little question about um a total touch screen or uh um
Cherrie Chandler: Partial.
Norma Mcneal: a p yeah, a partial, uh because I think uh elderly people may be uh not used to uh a touch screen, so they want the the the normal functions like teletext, volume changing, um
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: uh to be uh, yeah, kinda traditionals uh and uh the the the the other functions, the more
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm.
Norma Mcneal: difficult functions uh to be uh maybe on the touch screen, but to keep this as uh normal as possible, to keep it
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: accessible.
Cherrie Chandler: but but if you display it on L_C_D_ screen with r r really big numbers
Beverly Ware: Yeah, you can de display it on
Cherrie Chandler: that's
Beverly Ware: the
Cherrie Chandler: just
Beverly Ware: on the
Cherrie Chandler: as
Beverly Ware: old
Cherrie Chandler: e
Beverly Ware: style.
Anna Libengood: Uh. I
Beverly Ware: You
Cherrie Chandler: just
Beverly Ware: can
Anna Libengood: I do
Beverly Ware: display
Cherrie Chandler: as easy.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: actual buttons on the
Norma Mcneal: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: touch screens.
Norma Mcneal: that's
Anna Libengood: Uh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: true,
Anna Libengood: I
Norma Mcneal: that's
Anna Libengood: do agree,
Norma Mcneal: true.
Anna Libengood: because well, it's just not the same when you touch a touch screen or when
Beverly Ware: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: you touch
Beverly Ware: okay.
Anna Libengood: a button, but
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, it's different.
Anna Libengood: well we have to look at what's our target uh audience. W
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: we are aiming for younger people
Norma Mcneal: Yeah,
Anna Libengood: and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: that's
Anna Libengood: they they
Norma Mcneal: true,
Anna Libengood: chose
Norma Mcneal: yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: age b below forty.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah, yeah yeah,
Anna Libengood: So
Norma Mcneal: yeah,
Anna Libengood: that's
Norma Mcneal: that's
Anna Libengood: that's
Norma Mcneal: a good
Anna Libengood: probably
Norma Mcneal: point.
Anna Libengood: uh a
Norma Mcneal: Yep.
Cherrie Chandler: And th those young people, yeah. Y you
Norma Mcneal: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: saw it in my marketing report, they like the new fancy
Norma Mcneal: They
Cherrie Chandler: stuff,
Norma Mcneal: like the
Cherrie Chandler: so
Norma Mcneal: fancy stuff, yeah. That's
Cherrie Chandler: A touch
Norma Mcneal: true.
Cherrie Chandler: screen, like Microsoft al already developed something like that for
Norma Mcneal: Mm-hmm.
Cherrie Chandler: uh uh multi-media applications.
Norma Mcneal: Mm
Cherrie Chandler: I th I think we can do that too.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah. Okay, as you can see uh the minutes from the second meeting, this one, are uh are
Cherrie Chandler: Done.
Norma Mcneal: done. Uh I've uh added the this uh four things from the management board just to keep in mind.
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm.
Norma Mcneal: Um each time I uh I had a sort of uh summary on what you told and uh what you personal think. Uh so that can be uh can be read out. Uh a f a few things I uh I noticed uh were um Moment. Ooh.
Norma Mcneal: Uh th the the main points in uh this uh uh in this uh meeting is I think uh how uh it's going to look uh with uh we must keep it simple, but have the opportunity to uh have more options and have them uh hidden or something, so they don't uh you don't have a big uh thing full of uh buttons the point that uh you uh wanna use one uh controller uh for uh uh hypothetically each television, so you must uh the the the the functions, know, like the menus or the the parental control must be all uh by the done by the remote control and not by the television. I think that's the point what uh
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm. Yes.
Norma Mcneal: we discussed.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, yeah, some of them. The menus uh are not identical for all th for all T_V_s, so you have to display it on
Beverly Ware: Well
Cherrie Chandler: one uh T_V_.
Beverly Ware: you can use um when you uh how do you call it, s um synchronized, the um remote and the T_V_,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, but that's not
Beverly Ware: then
Cherrie Chandler: possible.
Beverly Ware: there's always, there are always uh possibilities to change the colour and the brightness and the volume
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm, mm yeah.
Beverly Ware: and um well maybe we can look out if there's options that the remote um in its memory can see what kinda T_V_ it is, from ah, it's a Philips, this and this and that, and then give the options that are capable the capable
Norma Mcneal: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: from
Norma Mcneal: but you
Beverly Ware: the
Norma Mcneal: have
Beverly Ware: t
Cherrie Chandler: Add
Norma Mcneal: uh
Cherrie Chandler: th that
Norma Mcneal: uh
Cherrie Chandler: that's
Norma Mcneal: an
Cherrie Chandler: an opportunity.
Norma Mcneal: yeah, but you have an international market range, so you have I think
Beverly Ware: Well
Norma Mcneal: a
Beverly Ware: there
Norma Mcneal: big
Beverly Ware: are
Norma Mcneal: range
Beverly Ware: universal
Norma Mcneal: of
Beverly Ware: d um um remotes
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: and they all have a functionality for all the T_V_s, uh so this
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: wouldn't
Norma Mcneal: Okay.
Beverly Ware: be a
Anna Libengood: But
Beverly Ware: extra
Anna Libengood: they
Beverly Ware: feature to
Cherrie Chandler: But
Beverly Ware: incorporate the men menus
Norma Mcneal: And it's
Beverly Ware: of these.
Norma Mcneal: not too complex to do it.
Anna Libengood: Well
Cherrie Chandler: No.
Anna Libengood: they uh they all have to be programmed to fit your T_V_
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: and that that is bit of a tricky job.
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: I actually use one of those when They are they are kinda kinda troublesome, but but the thing is whe when you uh start uh building something like this you have to build a receiver into the uh t into the remotes, because uh in order for the remote to process something from the T_V_,
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: like uh
Beverly Ware: Well
Anna Libengood: to synchronise
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: and you have to send and receive,
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm.
Anna Libengood: and
Beverly Ware: Oh
Anna Libengood: that's well
Beverly Ware: um
Cherrie Chandler: No no no.
Beverly Ware: mo no, you can just
Norma Mcneal: Just
Cherrie Chandler: He
Beverly Ware: say
Cherrie Chandler: he
Norma Mcneal: build
Beverly Ware: uh
Norma Mcneal: it
Cherrie Chandler: he
Norma Mcneal: in.
Cherrie Chandler: he Cherrie Chandler he
Beverly Ware: the
Cherrie Chandler: means
Beverly Ware: c
Cherrie Chandler: just just one other thing.
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Uh, with the current remote controls,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: the universal ones,
Anna Libengood: Yes.
Cherrie Chandler: um you have to press
Beverly Ware: In codes, y
Cherrie Chandler: yeah,
Beverly Ware: you you
Cherrie Chandler: you have
Beverly Ware: get
Cherrie Chandler: to press
Beverly Ware: a
Cherrie Chandler: a code
Beverly Ware: b a book
Cherrie Chandler: for
Beverly Ware: with
Cherrie Chandler: T_V_.
Beverly Ware: codes. You look up, I have a Philips H_ fifty
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: five
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: and it says press code
Anna Libengood: Oh, okay,
Beverly Ware: four five
Anna Libengood: yeah, sure,
Beverly Ware: five and you press
Anna Libengood: uh
Beverly Ware: code four five five on the
Anna Libengood: Yeah yeah
Beverly Ware: uh
Anna Libengood: yeah.
Beverly Ware: in the remote and it displays all your uh menu options.
Anna Libengood: Oh, yeah yeah, sure, that would be possible,
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Now we uh just connect uh the T_V_ type uh to a set of
Beverly Ware: Memory
Cherrie Chandler: options,
Beverly Ware: in
Cherrie Chandler: in
Beverly Ware: the
Norma Mcneal: Yep.
Beverly Ware: in
Cherrie Chandler: just
Beverly Ware: the remote.
Cherrie Chandler: just in the memory,
Anna Libengood: Profiles.
Cherrie Chandler: so that if you yeah, like profile, so that if you uh touch in like uh one four one zero
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: kind of T_V_ uh the memory uh pops up the options.
Anna Libengood: Yeah. Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: Okay.
Anna Libengood: that would be possible. Yeah, sure.
Cherrie Chandler: I th don't think that's uh that takes a lot of storage space or
Anna Libengood: No,
Cherrie Chandler: some
Anna Libengood: that wouldn't
Cherrie Chandler: just
Anna Libengood: be
Cherrie Chandler: varia
Anna Libengood: uh
Cherrie Chandler: variables.
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: Yeah, well
Anna Libengood: a few
Beverly Ware: um
Anna Libengood: variables.
Beverly Ware: if you look at the um manuals from universal uh remotes, there are
Cherrie Chandler: Mm-hmm.
Beverly Ware: maybe um three four hundreds T_V_s
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: at maximum. If you have all of them, all the old and new T_V_s summed up, so uh I think uh it is possible.
Anna Libengood: Ah it is. It
Cherrie Chandler: But,
Anna Libengood: is definitely
Cherrie Chandler: on the other
Anna Libengood: po
Cherrie Chandler: hand
Norma Mcneal: We have five minutes to go.
Cherrie Chandler: on the other hand, uh if you have a remote
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: and buy a new T_V_ that isn't incorporated in the remote
Beverly Ware: Well then you have to buy a new one, it's very good for marketing
Cherrie Chandler: New remote?
Beverly Ware: Maybe, or an update, software update.
Cherrie Chandler: A firmware upgrade or
Beverly Ware: Firmware
Cherrie Chandler: something,
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: update,
Anna Libengood: firmware
Beverly Ware: you say.
Anna Libengood: upgrade.
Cherrie Chandler: but from where? Ah. Maybe
Anna Libengood: That's maybe the
Cherrie Chandler: w
Anna Libengood: cup holder.
Cherrie Chandler: No m
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: may
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: no, maybe we can incorporate some kind of uh U_S_B_ or a firewire connection, so that you can uh connect it to the P_C_ and download the newest firmware from uh from the internet.
Anna Libengood: Well, not everybody has uh has uh a P_C_ at home. Well the most most people have,
Beverly Ware: Well,
Anna Libengood: but not not
Beverly Ware: at
Anna Libengood: everybody
Beverly Ware: uh you can
Anna Libengood: and
Beverly Ware: go back to the shop and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: uh
Cherrie Chandler: like
Beverly Ware: they
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: a s kind of service centre.
Beverly Ware: Yeah, ser o
Anna Libengood: Yeah, maybe something like service
Beverly Ware: and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: they can
Anna Libengood: cen
Beverly Ware: download it for you.
Anna Libengood: Or you could well you could s actually look at the place-holder you talked about earlier, and
Beverly Ware: Mm-hmm.
Anna Libengood: you could probably uh make a connection to uh an telephone line or
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: a
Beverly Ware: Well already
Anna Libengood: internet connection.
Beverly Ware: digital information is sent t to the the standards, T_V_ uh
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: connections, you can see what's uh programme is on on the new uh channels, so maybe j they we can send that information along with standard T_V_ uh
Anna Libengood: Well then then it's be uh back to the
Beverly Ware: Receiving.
Anna Libengood: building a receiving uh
Beverly Ware: Oh yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: well uh if it's actually worth it to build it in, we could actually look
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: at into it, but I dunno, it it would be uh
Beverly Ware: Difficult.
Anna Libengood: bringing more costs uh with with it and
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: I I think it's uh most cheap or cheapest to just do the updates uh at the service centre
Anna Libengood: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: Yeah
Cherrie Chandler: or
Anna Libengood: that would be
Beverly Ware: yeah,
Cherrie Chandler: at
Anna Libengood: probably
Cherrie Chandler: the shop.
Beverly Ware: uh
Anna Libengood: best,
Beverly Ware: s
Anna Libengood: yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: I think some I think
Anna Libengood: Like
Beverly Ware: it's
Anna Libengood: when
Beverly Ware: good
Anna Libengood: you when
Beverly Ware: idea,
Anna Libengood: you buy
Beverly Ware: yeah.
Anna Libengood: a T_V_ you just ask
Cherrie Chandler: It's
Anna Libengood: well
Cherrie Chandler: it's
Anna Libengood: I'll
Cherrie Chandler: it's not a lot of work, just one uh docking station where you put it in,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: press start, bling bling, updated.
Anna Libengood: Yeah, that would be best,
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Anna Libengood: yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: You don't buy a T_V_ every week,
Beverly Ware: Okay,
Anna Libengood: No
Cherrie Chandler: new
Beverly Ware: let's
Anna Libengood: no.
Cherrie Chandler: teev
Beverly Ware: uh save
Anna Libengood: Exactly,
Beverly Ware: this
Cherrie Chandler: so.
Beverly Ware: in the meanwhile
Anna Libengood: so
Beverly Ware: uh
Beverly Ware: Um m for which one are we going? My mistake.
Cherrie Chandler: Let's vote.
Beverly Ware: That one or uh
Anna Libengood: Yeah, my vote goes out to the right.
Beverly Ware: Your vote and
Cherrie Chandler: My vote too.
Beverly Ware: your
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Cherrie Chandler: And your vote?
Beverly Ware: Well, I was uh doubting about which one to take, but uh you've convinced Cherrie Chandler that uh if you di display buttons
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: about the same as they would look on a normal um
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: remote all elderly people will know what to do.
Cherrie Chandler: And also like a clapping uh li like device that uh
Beverly Ware: Opens
Cherrie Chandler: pops
Beverly Ware: up
Anna Libengood: Flips
Beverly Ware: is
Cherrie Chandler: open.
Anna Libengood: open.
Beverly Ware: too difficult or uh
Cherrie Chandler: Uh too difficult, um maybe uh it's easier to break it.
Norma Mcneal: N yeah.
Beverly Ware: Break it, I don't
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: get
Cherrie Chandler: th th th that i uh
Norma Mcneal: It's very sensitive.
Beverly Ware: Oh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: so Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Like my telephone, it's uh it's sensitive too.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Okay well uh it's almost at the end. So we have now a lunch break, finally,
Cherrie Chandler: Ah.
Norma Mcneal: yeah. Uh after the lunch break uh it's back to uh individual work, once again uh thirty minutes. Uh I will put my minutes uh I have updated them so uh s they're updated in the shared folder too.
Cherrie Chandler: Thirty minutes?
Norma Mcneal: Thirty minutes, the
Cherrie Chandler: How minutes?
Norma Mcneal: Failure. Uh uh the specifi uh specific instructions for the next uh meeting you will all will receive uh at the uh the the email. I don't think I can uh say much about it, so uh uh wait for your email and uh hopefully you get it done uh in the in the thirty minutes, and I w will see you after the lunch break and the thirty minutes.
Cherrie Chandler: One question,
Norma Mcneal: Yeah?
Cherrie Chandler: uh how late do we have to get back be back here?
Norma Mcneal: Uh well uh thirty minutes.
Beverly Ware: A quarter to one
Norma Mcneal: Uh,
Beverly Ware: maybe?
Norma Mcneal: yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: Thirty minutes lunch break?
Norma Mcneal: Thirty minutes lunch break, yeah.
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Cherrie Chandler: I thought
Norma Mcneal: Oh.
Cherrie Chandler: forty five.
Norma Mcneal: Forty five?
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Uh then would it be uh one o'clock.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Or we
Cherrie Chandler: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: we ask our personal coach.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, uh that was a very uh good session I think,
Beverly Ware: Yeah,
Norma Mcneal: we
Beverly Ware: is
Norma Mcneal: uh
Beverly Ware: it possible
Norma Mcneal: we
Beverly Ware: to store this on
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: the share
Cherrie Chandler: Cherrie Chandler too.
Beverly Ware: documents or
Norma Mcneal: Uh
Beverly Ware: what
Norma Mcneal: ye well
Cherrie Chandler: Save as.
Norma Mcneal: Yeah, because uh all uh things are uh stored in smart board dot uh
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, v
Norma Mcneal: X_D_K_ and
Cherrie Chandler: But
Norma Mcneal: that's in
Cherrie Chandler: but you can open a from your pr from
Beverly Ware: 'Kay,
Cherrie Chandler: your
Beverly Ware: save
Cherrie Chandler: laptop.
Beverly Ware: it as an image on
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: the
Cherrie Chandler: maybe.
Beverly Ware: res
Cherrie Chandler: Save as.
Anna Libengood: Export.
Cherrie Chandler: No.
Norma Mcneal: No.
Anna Libengood: Maybe not export function.
Cherrie Chandler: Export.
Norma Mcneal: Well I
Cherrie Chandler: Export
Norma Mcneal: can I can uh
Cherrie Chandler: H_T_M_L_.
Beverly Ware: No, and use an image if possible.
Cherrie Chandler: Huh, image?
Beverly Ware: J_ PEG.
Anna Libengood: G_ yeah, J_ PEG.
Beverly Ware: J_ PEG. Yeah, it's better
Cherrie Chandler: Paper size A_ four. Uh screen size. In this
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Cherrie Chandler: directory.
Anna Libengood: N oh.
Beverly Ware: Oh yeah, it's not connected to the
Norma Mcneal: You all uh have
Beverly Ware: to
Norma Mcneal: the
Beverly Ware: our P_C_s.
Norma Mcneal: the questionnaire
Cherrie Chandler: No?
Norma Mcneal: again about uh the after work.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, it is connected.
Beverly Ware: It's connected?
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah, I think so.
Anna Libengood: To
Norma Mcneal: Deskt
Anna Libengood: room.
Norma Mcneal: Huh. No.
Anna Libengood: I'll just uh saved in my documents.
Cherrie Chandler: Oh.
Anna Libengood: Yeah in my own uh in my own messenger.
Beverly Ware: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: Project documents,
Anna Libengood: Yeah.
Norma Mcneal: yeah.
Beverly Ware: It gives the na Oh. Yes.
Anna Libengood: Okay,
Norma Mcneal: Okay,
Anna Libengood: nice.
Norma Mcneal: thank you.
Beverly Ware: The questionnaire, fill in uh we fill out d after lunch or uh
Norma Mcneal: Uh well, it's it's simply filling oh no, it's uh it's also filling out no, I'd do it after lunch I think.
Beverly Ware: Okay.
Norma Mcneal: I'm hungry, so do it after
Anna Libengood: Aye,
Norma Mcneal: lunch.
Beverly Ware: Yes.
Norma Mcneal: Thank you all.
Anna Libengood: cheers.
Cherrie Chandler: Thank you.
Norma Mcneal: You're welcome.
Beverly Ware: We can leave the P_C_ on I think, yeah and
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah,
Beverly Ware: return
Cherrie Chandler: of
Beverly Ware: to
Norma Mcneal: Yeah.
Beverly Ware: the
Cherrie Chandler: course.
Norma Mcneal: Well I bring it to my uh personal room.
Beverly Ware: Yeah, bring
Cherrie Chandler: To my
Beverly Ware: to
Cherrie Chandler: exave
Beverly Ware: I gotta
Cherrie Chandler: executive
Beverly Ware: bring it home.
Norma Mcneal: My executive uh big room with the
Beverly Ware: A big office.
Norma Mcneal: with the panting.
Beverly Ware: Yes.
Cherrie Chandler: Aye.
Cherrie Chandler: Yeah. Okay. | When this functional design meeting opens Norma Mcneal tells the group about the project restrictions he received from management by email. Cherrie Chandler is first to present, summarizing user requirements data from a questionaire given to 100 respondents. Cherrie Chandler explains various user preferences and complaints about remotes as well as different interests among age groups. He prefers that they aim users from ages 16-45, improve the most-used functions, and make a placeholder for the remote. Anna Libengood begins explaining the working design. He talks about existing products, most of which use infared since it is simple and cost-effective. He suggests adding a speech function, when someone asks where the remote is and it beeps. He also explains the various components, materials, and energy sources of a remote, giving preference to a remote with multifunctional buttons and without a receiver. The interface specialist presents, talking about the possible components of the remote and concluding that the remote should be simple and accessible without too much functionality. The group continues the meeting by having discussion about the possibility of a touch screen, LCD, and other functions. The group closes the meeting and goes to lunch. | 2 | amisum | test |
Cheryl Robinson: Hello again.
Alberta Bruce: Hi.
Cynthia Jefferson: Hello.
Frances Bannister: Hey, Project Manager.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um, Project Manager, I
Cheryl Robinson: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: have something tell you. I have a little problems with my laptop.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Cynthia Jefferson: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Cynthia Jefferson: No, a little problem, uh big problem. I just thought
Frances Bannister: What was it,
Cynthia Jefferson: Um,
Frances Bannister: problem?
Cynthia Jefferson: it didn't work anymore.
Frances Bannister: The laptop?
Cynthia Jefferson: The entire Windows uh
Frances Bannister: It hang hung.
Cynthia Jefferson: It it hung.
Frances Bannister: Ha-ha. Oh. Project Manager.
Cheryl Robinson: Yes.
Frances Bannister: You're
Cheryl Robinson: Yes.
Frances Bannister: our Project Manager.
Cheryl Robinson: Your project manager. Welcome to the conceptual design meeting for Real Reaction. Uh, hello again. Uh it's uh the same as the last time. Uh uh, also this time there will be uh three presentations. And we um must uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts. Um uh, and the end, I uh, when I finish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh visited. information.
Cynthia Jefferson: During lunch, yeah.
Frances Bannister: Master.
Cynthia Jefferson: He's the master, yeah.
Frances Bannister: Master
Cheryl Robinson: The
Frances Bannister: of
Cheryl Robinson: the the the the concepts on uh we uh where we uh must reach a decision on. Um uh, our from uh are of two sorts. Components concepts and user interface concepts. Uh, the first one is uh really about the the the the the total package uh with uh Well, we have decided to do a do the uh with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable. Uh how how about the energy? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you must exchange? Uh, the user interface concept. Uh, with the type and uh the the supplements. So uh where to put what button. And uh uh I would say uh Jans, can you begin?
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, sure.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay. At the end, uh I will take notes uh
Alberta Bruce: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the shared folder.
Alberta Bruce: Uh, let Frances Bannister see. I think it's this one. Ha.
Cynthia Jefferson: Wow.
Alberta Bruce: Right. Uh, well, I'll be talking about the components. Uh, what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two two uh different uh age groups.
Cheryl Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Bruce: Uh below forty five and above. And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh, well, what what d do we want, and how we uh d aim a at uh the target group. Well uh what I found was that a senior um senior citizens uh
Frances Bannister: I'm sorry.
Alberta Bruce: Ye Ah, it's
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: it's
Frances Bannister: Go
Alberta Bruce: okay.
Frances Bannister: on.
Alberta Bruce: Uh They, well, they like more the they like the traditional materials, like wood and and such more. Wood and chrome. And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes. Um, uh they they they they like luxurious uh styles, where whereas the young and dynamic, they like a more uh soft materials. Think of the Teletubbies, for instance. Uh uh, soft and fluffy and colourful and Well uh, shapes are curved and round. Y y you get the picture. And uh they like sports and gaming, and that gives them uh the vitality. Uh, so w well
Cheryl Robinson: One
Alberta Bruce: uh, firs
Cheryl Robinson: one little question. Um
Alberta Bruce: Yes.
Cheryl Robinson: about the the material.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Uh a soft material for a remote control?
Alberta Bruce: No, I'll I'll get to that.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: You you'll see. Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah. Thank you.
Alberta Bruce: Uh, well f first off, let's start start with the energy. W I uh I had a choice between uh a few different uh sources.
Cheryl Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Bruce: But uh the two basic sources that I found were the best possible were the battery uh versus kinetic. Uh kinetic, that's when you move something, then uh it gets energy. I figured, well that's ki kinda high-tech, when when you have a remote control that well, when you pick it up, it has power. That would be actually very nice, uh
Cheryl Robinson: Oh.
Alberta Bruce: I figured. Well, we could also use a battery, that's a
Frances Bannister: Yeah
Alberta Bruce: bit
Frances Bannister: but when the power gets low, you have to shake it or something?
Alberta Bruce: Yeah. Yeah yeah, you c just you have to shake it around
Frances Bannister: Uh,
Alberta Bruce: a little bit.
Frances Bannister: and
Alberta Bruce: And
Frances Bannister: uh
Alberta Bruce: then
Frances Bannister: uh
Alberta Bruce: then it d then it has some more uh energy. Well,
Frances Bannister: Hmm.
Alberta Bruce: y you could just go for a battery. Or you can go for both?
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh, have you the option of using a solar panel
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, I actually did. But uh the thing is about solar panel is you have to have l uh light. Well, sunlight preferably.
Cynthia Jefferson: W
Alberta Bruce: Uh,
Cynthia Jefferson: nah.
Alberta Bruce: and you you could you could use normal light, but uh
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm.
Alberta Bruce: you wouldn't get the same amount of energy that you would from a battery or something.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Uh for uh ultimate b uh n uh use of uh solar panels, you could actually use uh you could use uh solar panels, but uh you ha you'd have to implement them into uh the remote control, leaving you uh a bit less space for
Frances Bannister: Mm
Alberta Bruce: the
Frances Bannister: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: interface.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: It's too
Alberta Bruce: So
Frances Bannister: less
Alberta Bruce: uh
Frances Bannister: space.
Alberta Bruce: so i i it it wo what's actually I I c just in f I've figured it out that well, uh seeing that you'll always be uh within the l uh distance of T_V_, and the from T_V_ there comes a a a whole bunch of light. So it would actually power itself uh from
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: a T_V_. But, well you just take up all the space, and you
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: wouldn't uh have the full amount of power actually used.
Cheryl Robinson: But you
Alberta Bruce: So
Cheryl Robinson: prefer kinetic?
Alberta Bruce: I I prefer kinetic because
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: it's uh well, the costs aren't that much higher, and um, ju just a bit more high-tech than than a normal battery. I mean,
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Alberta Bruce: if
Cheryl Robinson: but you don't move a a remote control
Alberta Bruce: No,
Cheryl Robinson: too
Alberta Bruce: but
Cheryl Robinson: much.
Alberta Bruce: uh d Well, you pick it up and you press buttons and y well,
Cheryl Robinson: And that's
Alberta Bruce: you
Cheryl Robinson: enough to to keep the energy level uh
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, well uh actually it is.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: And it it if it isn't, you just shake it a bit and and add add with power up again.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: But, what l what Jarek said, you could you could use a battery that you'd just keep it on the recharging whenever it moves. And for rest, you'd just add juice on the battery.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: And when the battery doesn't work, I usually shake too. So Like slamming on
Alberta Bruce: Exactly.
Frances Bannister: it. It's exactly the same.
Alberta Bruce: And
Cheryl Robinson: Thank
Alberta Bruce: so that
Cheryl Robinson: you, Tim.
Alberta Bruce: Uh Uh well, f furthermore, you you we uh checked uh the cases. We have uh different options uh concerning the cases. You ha I you sim uh you simply add a basic uh standard uh model uh it was kind of square and uh I figured that's a bit boring. So you you we could go for uh the single curved or the double curved. Um, single curve, it's just a well, uh, you know, it's just uh a nice curve. Or but but you could go in a in an double curves. And that's like several different dimensions. That gives
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: you an whole new uh
Cheryl Robinson: Dynamic
Frances Bannister: Hmm.
Alberta Bruce: effec
Cheryl Robinson: dynamic look?
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, that gives you a younger and uh more high-tech look, I f I figured. But, that uh we'll discuss later.
Frances Bannister: But, are you going to draw it?
Alberta Bruce: What?
Frances Bannister: The
Alberta Bruce: You
Cynthia Jefferson: Th
Alberta Bruce: want Frances Bannister to draw
Cynthia Jefferson: th
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: in
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: three-D_?
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Uh, I c I can't imagine.
Alberta Bruce: Uh,
Frances Bannister: I can't imagine
Alberta Bruce: yeah, I ca
Frances Bannister: how
Alberta Bruce: I
Frances Bannister: how
Alberta Bruce: ca
Frances Bannister: how
Alberta Bruce: I could
Frances Bannister: it
Alberta Bruce: I
Frances Bannister: looks
Alberta Bruce: could show
Frances Bannister: like.
Alberta Bruce: you. I could show you. Well uh let's say y uh you uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Let's say that's your standard uh
Frances Bannister: Design.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: That's a bit your d standard design.
Frances Bannister: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Bruce: could actually go like uh something like this. And then uh in three-D_ effect you could go
Cynthia Jefferson: Um
Frances Bannister: Uh
Alberta Bruce: So y you you just Yeah, this is a this bit uh difficulty in I didn't take a major in art. So But but you could have uh uh a whole new uh the back
Frances Bannister: Oh,
Alberta Bruce: back
Frances Bannister: okay.
Alberta Bruce: the the the depth, you could you could uh just
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: play around a bit with. You you don't have to use standard uh
Frances Bannister: Oh, okay.
Cheryl Robinson: A little artistic.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah you could y It leaves more space for creativity.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: Uh that might be an idea, but just a Well, furthermore, uh well, uh plastic versus rubber? You We could choose uh what uh what's better, plastic um or rubber. I I ch prefer rubber because it feels uh Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: It's soft.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, it's soft and it's that
Cheryl Robinson: That's
Alberta Bruce: I like
Cheryl Robinson: the material
Alberta Bruce: soft.
Cheryl Robinson: the younger people want uh,
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: ain't
Alberta Bruce: yeah
Cheryl Robinson: it?
Alberta Bruce: I mean uh plastic uh is Plastic also has that cheap feeling to it, like plastic uh Your your I usually associate plastic with uh something that's cheap. Uh that's maybe just Frances Bannister, but Uh, we could uh uh, oh, talk about it later. Uh furthermore, buttons. Uh traditional uh or a touch screen. Well, we discussed it in a previous meeting, so I figured I'll just leave it at the L_C_D_. And uh chip set, well uh if we are going to use traditional buttons, we could go uh with a simple chip set. But uh if we decide to go on a n uh um L_C_D_ screen, we would use an uh we have to use an a advanced chip set. And that would bring uh the necessary costs with with it. So that's something we th have to keep in mind. If it isn't uh manageable uh budget-wise, we'd have to go over to uh to sim to simple buttons.
Frances Bannister: Well, I think uh we're going to sell tell ten millions of them. So uh I bet a big company in uh Korea or Taiwan, like uh Samsung,
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: can give us uh a big discount on the chips, so
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, probably.
Frances Bannister: U usually, chips are uh aren't more expensive than one dollar.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, probably, but
Frances Bannister: So
Alberta Bruce: But uh yeah, that's
Frances Bannister: That that
Alberta Bruce: that's
Frances Bannister: shouldn't be a real issue,
Alberta Bruce: That shouldn't
Frances Bannister: I think.
Alberta Bruce: shouldn't be uh that big a issue. I'll I'll I'll just add, uh uh I put a big summary here, so we could discuss it a bit. Uh what i what are your ideas concerning battery versus kinetic?
Cynthia Jefferson: Um, I think you should use kinetic as a back-up.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, you you you should we
Frances Bannister: Yeah, a
Alberta Bruce: should
Frances Bannister: combination.
Cynthia Jefferson: A combination,
Alberta Bruce: A combination.
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Uh, you use the battery and w charge it up with kinetic. When you pick it up, it
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: charges up.
Frances Bannister: Like an uh aku uh
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Acu uh,
Alberta Bruce: Yeah
Frances Bannister: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: yeah, I know.
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay. Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Just like the watch
Frances Bannister: Well,
Cheryl Robinson: from Seiko.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Psycho-kinetic.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, I con Exactly.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: What uh what do you think? You agree?
Cheryl Robinson: I I uh I would prefer uh both uh too.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah? Both?
Frances Bannister: Combine
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: them.
Cheryl Robinson: Combine them.
Alberta Bruce: Okay. Uh, well that would bring the m m some more costs, but I mean the Who cares,
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: right. That's Cheryl Robinson's
Cynthia Jefferson: Buy
Alberta Bruce: problem.
Cynthia Jefferson: a fifty
Frances Bannister: Of
Cynthia Jefferson: cents
Frances Bannister: course.
Cynthia Jefferson: battery and uh
Frances Bannister: Fifty
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: cent.
Alberta Bruce: well Fifty cent uh Uh, why doesn't And then we have single-curved versus double-curved. That
Cynthia Jefferson: Well maybe I have something in my presentation to uh to cope with that.
Alberta Bruce: Okay. No, we'll we'll just wait and uh Uh, plastic versus rubber.
Frances Bannister: Rubber.
Alberta Bruce: Any ideas?
Cheryl Robinson: Rubber.
Alberta Bruce: Uh,
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: rubber?
Cynthia Jefferson: Um,
Alberta Bruce: You
Cynthia Jefferson: isn't possible to make combination with kind of rubber is or bendable remotes where you've got a. Or do
Alberta Bruce: Uh,
Cynthia Jefferson: you
Alberta Bruce: I
Cynthia Jefferson: think
Alberta Bruce: figured
Cynthia Jefferson: it
Alberta Bruce: it will be m rather than
Cynthia Jefferson: Rubber
Alberta Bruce: hard
Cynthia Jefferson: casing,
Frances Bannister: Rather
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah.
Frances Bannister: hard.
Alberta Bruce: Nah, rubber c uh this is a casing, yeah. Rubber casing, because well if you use an uh d a touch-screen, uh it's just a casing uh around it. So um,
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: you could go for plastic, but I figured
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um,
Alberta Bruce: I
Cynthia Jefferson: well
Alberta Bruce: I I
Cynthia Jefferson: d
Alberta Bruce: would choose rubber.
Cynthia Jefferson: Maybe I can ask it right now the question that I have. Uh, is it possible uh of is it necessary to make a touch-screen square? It isn't, I think, yeah?
Alberta Bruce: Well, m I don't know.
Frances Bannister: Well,
Alberta Bruce: No.
Frances Bannister: I think that touch-screens are generally square.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: But it's the
Cynthia Jefferson: We're
Frances Bannister: case you put around it
Alberta Bruce: That
Frances Bannister: that
Cynthia Jefferson: We put
Alberta Bruce: isn't
Frances Bannister: makes
Cynthia Jefferson: fashion
Frances Bannister: the shape.
Cynthia Jefferson: in electronics, so
Frances Bannister: Hmm?
Cynthia Jefferson: maybe we can uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah okay, but if you have a square uh L_C_D_ screen,
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm
Frances Bannister: and
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah.
Frances Bannister: you put a case around it that has uh like bulbs or
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Frances Bannister: that that covers part of the L_C_D_ screen.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, that would
Frances Bannister: That
Alberta Bruce: cover it. That that would solve
Frances Bannister: That's
Alberta Bruce: the problem.
Frances Bannister: it's
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh,
Frances Bannister: custom customisable
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah. Okay,
Frances Bannister: and
Cynthia Jefferson: I
Cheryl Robinson: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: I get it.
Alberta Bruce: So mm Uh uh so uh so what are the opinions? Uh rubber or plastic? I I I prefer rubber.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, Frances Bannister too.
Cheryl Robinson: Frances Bannister too.
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, you
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah?
Alberta Bruce: too? You sure? You
Cynthia Jefferson: That's good.
Alberta Bruce: you
Cynthia Jefferson: Well,
Alberta Bruce: you seemed
Cynthia Jefferson: as
Alberta Bruce: to hesitate
Cynthia Jefferson: long a
Alberta Bruce: a bit.
Cynthia Jefferson: as long as it's it's uh it's firm, and you don't uh
Frances Bannister: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: it's not bendable or something, I th I think that goes too far.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, it it shouldn't it shouldn't
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: flop over when you
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh.
Alberta Bruce: hold it in your hand uh No, that that that that's gonna The the chip set will hold it firm in place, and
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: uh and and uh and a L_C_D_ screen also
Cynthia Jefferson: It might even bounce back when you drop it on the floor.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah it m might it might.
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: Uh, tra uh traditional versus L_C_D_, well I figured we we all set on that. And uh, then also the simple versus advanced. Well I figure if we go for L_ L_C_D_, we we should have the advanced.
Cheryl Robinson: Mm
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: So that shouldn't be a problem. Okay, well that's my uh
Cheryl Robinson: Thank you.
Alberta Bruce: Uh, you're welcome.
Frances Bannister: Can I uh do my thing?
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: It uh
Cheryl Robinson: Do your thing,
Cynthia Jefferson: Do
Cheryl Robinson: Tim.
Cynthia Jefferson: your thing.
Cheryl Robinson: Bring it on.
Frances Bannister: Expert map. Okay uh Last week I went to uh Paris and Milan for some trend-watching. For marketing. Our research and development department and I went to Paris and Milan. In Paris and Milan, we uh asked different people, uh differing in age and in income, uh the amount of money to spend, um what they like in design uh and material nowadays. Findings. Our main audience, uh so that's people below forty, uh prefer the following. At first, the colours of fruit. Very basic colours, like Janus explained. Um, fresh colours, uh green, red, uh strawberry red, uh yellow, banana yellow. Um, considering material, um Yeah. They like spongy material,
Cynthia Jefferson: Spongeball.
Frances Bannister: like yeah a sponge-ball. Like a s soft material. Janus
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: m uh mentioned it also. I think he did some uh some findings himself.
Alberta Bruce: Well,
Frances Bannister: You
Alberta Bruce: the Teletubbies
Frances Bannister: wer
Alberta Bruce: sh
Frances Bannister: you weren't in Paris? Okay. Like this. Like big uh
Cheryl Robinson: Flashy.
Frances Bannister: g flashy colours.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Fresh. It's nice, I think. Okay, our secondary audience, uh people above forty a forty years in age, they like the dark traditional colours. Uh Yeah, uh materials like wood
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: that
Cheryl Robinson: but wood is not a not a material you which you build a a remote control of.
Alberta Bruce: Well, you could.
Frances Bannister: No
Alberta Bruce: You
Frances Bannister: n
Alberta Bruce: you
Frances Bannister: j
Alberta Bruce: could.
Frances Bannister: just
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah
Frances Bannister: j
Cheryl Robinson: but
Frances Bannister: just a w
Cheryl Robinson: never seen
Alberta Bruce: Well uh
Cheryl Robinson: one.
Cynthia Jefferson: It'll float.
Frances Bannister: No, okay, but just just a wooden uh
Cheryl Robinson: Case.
Frances Bannister: look.
Cheryl Robinson: Oh, a wooden
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: look, yeah.
Frances Bannister: Like uh you have those fake uh
Cynthia Jefferson: Tables.
Frances Bannister: fake panels on the floor. The that isn't wood anyway, but
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: Okay? But, that's our secondary audience.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: So, uh we decided to take mm yeah the people below forty.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: So, that this doesn't apply. 'Kay, the third. Uh, there're some overall thoughts about new remote controls. They have to look fancy. Um, they should be technological in innovative. That means uh there have to be fancy things in. Uh, and easy to use. But that's common. My personal preferences. We have to aim at a mu at the main audience. And uh, therefore use fresh colours.
Cheryl Robinson: Would you prefer uh uh that you can choose the colour of your uh remote control
Frances Bannister: Uh,
Cheryl Robinson: or
Frances Bannister: I'll I'll come to that in a second
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: point. Here, think about removable covers, as seen
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: in mobile telephon telephone market. To customise your own remote control. Like the Nokia uh the
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: removable covers, uh just put a red
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: on it and go to the shop and buy a green one. Uh, a third, material being used uh could well be stuff like rubber. Um, two advantages. Uh, it fits within the current market trends. And uh it adds safety to your remote uh when you drop it. So Uh to come back to your question, I think uh and the people in Milan and Paris also think that uh the rubber should be pretty hard. Like uh seen on regular mobile phones. Actually, they have a lot in common. The phones and the
Alberta Bruce: Well, I actually saw a phone that you could use as a remote, so
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Ah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Maybe
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: you could use your remote as a phone.
Alberta Bruce: Hey.
Cynthia Jefferson: Hey.
Alberta Bruce: That
Cheryl Robinson: There
Alberta Bruce: might
Cheryl Robinson: are numbers
Alberta Bruce: be a next
Cheryl Robinson: on
Alberta Bruce: step.
Cheryl Robinson: it, so uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah, exactly. Uh, in my second sheet of personal preferences, uh we have to reconsider the speech function uh recognition. Uh, it's very innovative. Innovative.
Cheryl Robinson: So that you say um S_P_S_S_, and it goes to
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: uh
Frances Bannister: like something.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: speech recognition and stuff. But, we have to keep the cost in uh in mind, but
Cynthia Jefferson: Twelve
Frances Bannister: it
Cynthia Jefferson: fifty uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah, it it can be uh very expensive. 'Kay, second. Uh, building games like Snake or Tetris to amuse the younger users. Uh, also the link with uh mobile phones.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, but
Frances Bannister: Uh
Cheryl Robinson: you don't use that th games when you watching television,
Frances Bannister: No,
Cheryl Robinson: I think.
Frances Bannister: but
Alberta Bruce: Well,
Frances Bannister: No,
Alberta Bruce: yeah.
Frances Bannister: okay. But you don't use games when you're d when you're making a telephone call. It's just the same.
Cynthia Jefferson: When your parents are watching some boring program, you can take the remote and do something else.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, okay.
Frances Bannister: When you're at college.
Alberta Bruce: You take
Frances Bannister: Uh
Cheryl Robinson: You
Alberta Bruce: your
Cheryl Robinson: take
Alberta Bruce: uh
Cheryl Robinson: your remote
Cynthia Jefferson: Take
Alberta Bruce: remote
Cheryl Robinson: control
Alberta Bruce: with
Frances Bannister: No.
Alberta Bruce: you to school.
Cheryl Robinson: with you.
Frances Bannister: You al you also take
Cynthia Jefferson: it.
Frances Bannister: uh t you take your IPac and go uh play games. Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah. Well, I do that, but Okay, and um And third, I stick with it, the log-in functionality uh with the slogan, take parental control to a new dimension.
Cynthia Jefferson: Ooh.
Alberta Bruce: Very
Frances Bannister: That's
Cynthia Jefferson: S
Alberta Bruce: nice.
Frances Bannister: it.
Cheryl Robinson: Uh great.
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Jefferson: In Okay. Um the interface contents. Well that's a just simple PowerPoint mock-up I want to m make it more as dynamic for you so I'll draw there. But, the main concept is um take one big touch screen. Um, always display the primary buttons clear and visible. Maybe even li like this with uh u uses of a lot of space. And uh make the menu structure changeable. So if you press um system, that's Yeah, well m multiple system options can, maybe five or ten or or one, can fit in. Or maybe even a step further when you want to um t um have some other options that are not programmable with one horizontal button. And um other buttons can may be displayed here if that's necessary. And um well, how do uh do we want to look at uh uh f um Yeah Does a remote look Well, it's you've gotta hold it in one hand. So um the middle like all remotes have to be in a little bit small, so you can put it in inside your hands. And some remotes you can use with your thumb. But I think that's too difficult for this one. So you can make it s a little broader. Yeah. And here? And maybe use your thumb on the on the main buttons. And use your other hands on the menu structure. So here are gonna be the program buttons. One, two, three, four, et cetera. And the the volume control and program control maybe. And, down here, um, I added, this could be one uh big L_C_D_. Um, the menu structure. So you can use it in uh in this way. Um One thing you've gotta keep in mind, keep the remote clear of too much functions at the same time. Um, know that if you are changing the menu structure here, um And well, I still believe you should keep displaying the buttons. But if you're programming the colour of the T_V_, do not display twenty other options that are possible. Just keep it as simple as uh as possible. And do not use too many levels. Do not have to select a screen first and then brightness and then colour and un-plus, and um push plus twenty times. But just the um uh just in one button if possible. And um, well, you kn you all know the T_V_ levels. Um, channel one, two. And when you get to n to uh to ten, ye and want to go back, uh well you have a problem. Just m most most modern T_V_s, you you press one zero, and it goes to ten. And else, to one and through after that. So the s a button less. And um, things like teletext, put them in the menu. Things like um um Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah. Uh, what do you think about a back-and-forth come-up uh button?
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah, yeah
Frances Bannister: L
Cynthia Jefferson: w
Frances Bannister: like in uh internet
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: explorer.
Cynthia Jefferson: I I find I must trying to uh tell it. And this is program uh plus and minus. Uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah okay, but does it that is for uh going from four to five.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yes.
Frances Bannister: But if you go from two to
Cynthia Jefferson: Or
Frances Bannister: eight,
Cynthia Jefferson: if you're watching
Frances Bannister: and you want
Cynthia Jefferson: Studio Sports on uh on seventeen,
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: and
Frances Bannister: and on
Cynthia Jefferson: your
Frances Bannister: two.
Cynthia Jefferson: wife is watching
Frances Bannister: That you
Cynthia Jefferson: some
Frances Bannister: can switch
Cynthia Jefferson: soap on
Frances Bannister: switch
Cynthia Jefferson: two
Frances Bannister: easy.
Cynthia Jefferson: Well yes, I think that's a good idea. But um, well m my preference
Frances Bannister: Yeah it
Cynthia Jefferson: would
Frances Bannister: is.
Cynthia Jefferson: to be put it in the menu structure.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: And if you're using that button a lot of times, well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels, you won't have time uh
Frances Bannister: Mm
Cynthia Jefferson: to
Frances Bannister: no.
Cynthia Jefferson: d use the other options. Um, yeah already already told that.
Frances Bannister: That's
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: it.
Cynthia Jefferson: That's my conclusion.
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: Oh, okay. Uh I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control, the games, and the voice recognition. Uh There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: about it.
Cynthia Jefferson: Well, I agree, just put it in the menu structure somewhere.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um, yeah um system
Frances Bannister: Yeah but
Cynthia Jefferson: properties, um parental control.
Frances Bannister: What I see uh How I see it is you put it on the the remote
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents, children.
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm.
Frances Bannister: Something
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: like that.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um,
Frances Bannister: And w
Cynthia Jefferson: w
Frances Bannister: when you want
Cynthia Jefferson: well,
Frances Bannister: to use
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah.
Frances Bannister: the parents uh option,
Cynthia Jefferson: It it
Frances Bannister: you
Cynthia Jefferson: has
Frances Bannister: have to
Cynthia Jefferson: to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: of settings.
Frances Bannister: ok
Cheryl Robinson: No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Cheryl Robinson: on the television, and uh wait
Cynthia Jefferson: Why
Cheryl Robinson: uh ten or fifteen seconds
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Cheryl Robinson: longer, so they can uh finally watch it uh because
Cynthia Jefferson: You c
Cheryl Robinson: of
Cynthia Jefferson: may
Cheryl Robinson: that.
Cynthia Jefferson: use
Cheryl Robinson: Uh
Cynthia Jefferson: like when there's uh X_P_, uh a
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: simple log-on, d
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: you just
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: push uh one
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: or two
Frances Bannister: Pu
Cynthia Jefferson: or
Frances Bannister: push
Cynthia Jefferson: three.
Frances Bannister: parents.
Cynthia Jefferson: And if
Frances Bannister: That
Cynthia Jefferson: you push
Frances Bannister: then
Cynthia Jefferson: parents,
Frances Bannister: then
Cynthia Jefferson: then
Frances Bannister: then
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: you have to uh
Cynthia Jefferson: To log in.
Frances Bannister: go to three-digit
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: uh
Cynthia Jefferson: And if you
Frances Bannister: log-in.
Cynthia Jefferson: puts a
Frances Bannister: Like
Cynthia Jefferson: ye
Frances Bannister: two one three.
Cynthia Jefferson: Uh-huh.
Frances Bannister: And it's in.
Cynthia Jefferson: And
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: if you w you push p children, uh you don't have to uh
Frances Bannister: It automatically
Cynthia Jefferson: log in, but
Frances Bannister: goes
Cynthia Jefferson: you can only
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: watch uh children's channels or uh
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay. Well
Alberta Bruce: I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function, but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such.
Frances Bannister: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Bruce: And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it. I don't
Cheryl Robinson: Well
Alberta Bruce: know
Cheryl Robinson: I
Alberta Bruce: what
Cheryl Robinson: think that's a b there's a big market for it, because uh you
Frances Bannister: Mm yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff, and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah,
Frances Bannister: V violent
Cheryl Robinson: they
Frances Bannister: T_V_.
Cheryl Robinson: believe that children uh are influenced by the television, and uh Well, we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh
Cynthia Jefferson: Well, maybe um some idea on that.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Just make through a remote as it is,
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: but make an option to insert profiles, 'cause if my
Frances Bannister: Yeah, of
Cynthia Jefferson: grandad
Frances Bannister: course.
Cynthia Jefferson: would buy this remote, he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: uh things to do. Just make it an option in menu, ins install powerful profiles or something.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: That's a that's a better idea?
Frances Bannister: Yeah, w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store,
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: it has to be just simple and plain. But
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, okay.
Frances Bannister: if you want to install it personally uh If I got kids, and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, with
Frances Bannister: uh
Cheryl Robinson: and one without.
Frances Bannister: w with parent control and one without, and I would would buy the one with.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um, b
Frances Bannister: I
Cynthia Jefferson: well,
Frances Bannister: th
Cynthia Jefferson: still
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: some question I have about how to incorporate those ones. You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see, but well, I I when I think, oh yeah, for the f for all the standard channels, and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: instead of uh of channels, because if you're watching uh, I don't know, you're in the at day uh, cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night. I don't know.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, maybe it can work with show view. Uh, you you can control your video recorder with show view. Uh, when you tick in a number, it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent, and that they are blocked out.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah, the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that
Cheryl Robinson: That's
Cynthia Jefferson: they
Cheryl Robinson: true.
Cynthia Jefferson: remotes
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: and edit it all, will have
Frances Bannister: Yeah
Cynthia Jefferson: to
Frances Bannister: but
Cynthia Jefferson: decide
Frances Bannister: yeah
Cynthia Jefferson: uh
Frances Bannister: but that isn't possible.
Cynthia Jefferson: That isn't possible.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: But, well, if you want to I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control, uh let's say we do, and and well whatever, cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up for instance.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Well uh, nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel.
Frances Bannister: Hmm.
Cynthia Jefferson: Well,
Alberta Bruce: But that
Cynthia Jefferson: yeah you could say if parental control is only it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then, but
Alberta Bruce: Well, I'm not sure because um for that
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: to happen, you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control, so it would, yeah, have to be constant uh constant signalling.
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Alberta Bruce: What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control, for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's there's uh besides uh the remote control, you'll have a separate uh
Cheryl Robinson: I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much, I think.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah?
Cheryl Robinson: If we do it, we
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: we
Frances Bannister: and
Cheryl Robinson: must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile, a parent profile, and a family
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: profile,
Cynthia Jefferson: on a separate
Cheryl Robinson: and otherwise.
Cynthia Jefferson: menu uh option.
Frances Bannister: And and you know w uh when you install another device, uh children can still go up to the T_V_, p pop open uh the thing
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: and and and g
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: go
Alberta Bruce: that's
Frances Bannister: to a
Alberta Bruce: true.
Frances Bannister: channel.
Alberta Bruce: That's true, but uh at same instant, same happens when uh you have remote control.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, yeah of course.
Alberta Bruce: So
Frances Bannister: But
Alberta Bruce: But, only difference is uh the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control, and those
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: people wouldn't uh necessary want it.
Frances Bannister: Ah it's Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: So, you
Frances Bannister: Yeah, okay.
Alberta Bruce: you'd
Frances Bannister: But it's
Alberta Bruce: be
Frances Bannister: just an an added feature
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: feature.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition? I personally think that that becomes too much.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah, well yeah, I
Cheryl Robinson: It's more like it gets you to the functionality,
Cynthia Jefferson: A mail
Cheryl Robinson: but
Cynthia Jefferson: too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh, hearing loud noises from
Frances Bannister: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: the T_V_,
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: someone screaming one, and you f the channel switches, uh Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, like f voice recognition is too much, I think.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: But
Cheryl Robinson: Okay. And games?
Frances Bannister: games. It doesn't
Alberta Bruce: Yeah. I can
Cynthia Jefferson: W
Alberta Bruce: see games
Cynthia Jefferson: you
Alberta Bruce: happening.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: can put it on chip anyway, so
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: uh
Frances Bannister: That that
Cheryl Robinson: That
Frances Bannister: doesn't
Cheryl Robinson: would
Frances Bannister: c
Cynthia Jefferson: As
Frances Bannister: that doesn't
Cynthia Jefferson: long as
Frances Bannister: co
Cynthia Jefferson: it's isn't a primary feature of the remote, but
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: uh
Frances Bannister: that that doesn't cost a lot of
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: extra resources,
Cheryl Robinson: So
Frances Bannister: I
Cheryl Robinson: that
Frances Bannister: think.
Cheryl Robinson: will uh that that that must be in it, you think?
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, that will be nice.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are
Cynthia Jefferson: Optional
Cheryl Robinson: optional?
Frances Bannister: Yeah, it's
Cynthia Jefferson: in
Frances Bannister: it's in it. But
Cynthia Jefferson: But
Frances Bannister: too ma
Cynthia Jefferson: how we do it?
Frances Bannister: I I think so, but
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Well, I think also it's a good idea, buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex. Is
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Cynthia Jefferson: t some menu uh function, you choose parental control, and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: it on. But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: will f
Cheryl Robinson: okay.
Cynthia Jefferson: be a problem.
Cheryl Robinson: Uh, but uh will there uh uh Like the first idea uh from uh You can buy it without and uh with parental contr
Cynthia Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
Cheryl Robinson: control? Or are we
Cynthia Jefferson: Well
Cheryl Robinson: going to put it in and uh just
Cynthia Jefferson: Ye
Cheryl Robinson: uh
Cynthia Jefferson: I I think best would be uh to put it in and make
Frances Bannister: To put
Cynthia Jefferson: it an menu option.
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: You can
Frances Bannister: to
Cynthia Jefferson: put
Frances Bannister: put
Cynthia Jefferson: on
Frances Bannister: it in always.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah?
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it, you can select um personal preference, parental control on, and the password or
Cheryl Robinson: Mm yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: something.
Alberta Bruce: Well, I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes, you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So, a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh simple model and the deluxe model, uh for instance.
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh, it's a p Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, but T_V_s aren't capable of sending.
Alberta Bruce: Yes they are.
Frances Bannister: Yeah?
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: I thought they were just
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: you yo
Alberta Bruce: you you
Frances Bannister: a
Alberta Bruce: have
Frances Bannister: able
Alberta Bruce: some
Frances Bannister: to
Alberta Bruce: T_V_s
Frances Bannister: receive.
Alberta Bruce: any
Frances Bannister: Yeah, some.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: But
Cheryl Robinson: but most often
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: not.
Alberta Bruce: That is true, that is true.
Cynthia Jefferson: Well, maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs, where the parent says, you cannot watch channel seven, nine, and ten,
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock. And there's just some little uh clock in
Alberta Bruce: Well
Cynthia Jefferson: the
Alberta Bruce: yeah,
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: remote.
Alberta Bruce: you could
Frances Bannister: j
Alberta Bruce: you could easily
Frances Bannister: just some rules.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: you could easily you could easily to the mote control. But you still have the problem about uh the television itself.
Cynthia Jefferson: No, no, it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of remotes who have a clock in it.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: So, the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after
Frances Bannister: Yeah, okay.
Cynthia Jefferson: twelve
Frances Bannister: But,
Cynthia Jefferson: clock.
Frances Bannister: on the T_V_
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah?
Frances Bannister: at least my T_V_, is a is a compartment which you can press.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: And
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: there are buttons uh behind
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: it
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: which you can use, if
Cynthia Jefferson: Well,
Frances Bannister: you d if
Cynthia Jefferson: that's
Frances Bannister: you don't if you don't have a
Cynthia Jefferson: To put it very blunt, that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: glue and uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: It's not not a part of the remote.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, of course.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that is true.
Cynthia Jefferson: You have to f
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: you could you
Cynthia Jefferson: Uh,
Alberta Bruce: could you
Cynthia Jefferson: or
Alberta Bruce: could go
Cynthia Jefferson: make
Alberta Bruce: like
Cynthia Jefferson: it ourselves
Alberta Bruce: uh that
Cynthia Jefferson: very
Alberta Bruce: that would
Cynthia Jefferson: diffic
Alberta Bruce: actually make uh things a lot more easy. You
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: could just blame it on television and
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: uh make it their problem.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, I figured I figure we could do that. Yeah,
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: yeah, sure.
Frances Bannister: Or
Alberta Bruce: Uh,
Frances Bannister: j
Alberta Bruce: I'm
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: not sure what marketing thinks about it, but
Frances Bannister: Ah I have to uh consult my legal advisor about it.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that Uh from Janus, the energy, the combination between battery and kinetic. The case will be double-curved and uh rubber, in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that with cover is removable. The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure, uh there must not to be uh Five minutes to go. Uh, too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated, but it must be not too complex. And the games are in it. So
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: I think we have uh we
Frances Bannister: Consensus.
Cheryl Robinson: have decided uh, okay. Uh, little more.
Frances Bannister: Oh. Oh.
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh.
Frances Bannister: I I have one thing left.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Maybe for uh Jerome.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah? I'm listening.
Frances Bannister: Um, the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view.
Cheryl Robinson: Like a like a moat or s or something.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um,
Frances Bannister: Like at
Alberta Bruce: User
Frances Bannister: In
Cynthia Jefferson: well
Alberta Bruce: profile.
Frances Bannister: the experts view, you have
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: a lot
Cheryl Robinson: but
Frances Bannister: of
Cheryl Robinson: you
Frances Bannister: more
Cheryl Robinson: have that
Frances Bannister: buttons.
Cynthia Jefferson: What
Cheryl Robinson: in
Cynthia Jefferson: I
Cheryl Robinson: the
Cynthia Jefferson: was thinking about is just a menu structure, when you don't use it is simple.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: And
Cheryl Robinson: You
Cynthia Jefferson: when
Cheryl Robinson: use
Cynthia Jefferson: you push
Cheryl Robinson: the
Cynthia Jefferson: uh system properties, uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: Mm yeah, okay.
Cheryl Robinson: It's
Frances Bannister: Fairly
Cheryl Robinson: already
Frances Bannister: enough.
Cheryl Robinson: incorporated
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: a little in
Alberta Bruce: Well
Cheryl Robinson: that
Alberta Bruce: yeah, you
Cheryl Robinson: concept.
Alberta Bruce: you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself, for the more advanced users.
Frances Bannister: Yeah, wh which buttons you
Alberta Bruce: Yeah,
Frances Bannister: like
Alberta Bruce: which
Frances Bannister: or not.
Alberta Bruce: buttons do you want to in it. Because you can
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: you can like build in a back-forward button, and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels.
Frances Bannister: Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, you could you could m have people want uh
Cheryl Robinson: We
Alberta Bruce: want
Cheryl Robinson: take
Alberta Bruce: that.
Cheryl Robinson: it to the other meeting, okay?
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: I have a little
Frances Bannister: Go on.
Cheryl Robinson: w uh little
Alberta Bruce: Ah, yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: chat
Alberta Bruce: sure.
Cheryl Robinson: to do and uh then we uh
Frances Bannister: A
Cheryl Robinson: finish.
Frances Bannister: little
Cheryl Robinson: I went
Frances Bannister: chat.
Cheryl Robinson: to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh can come in handy uh for us. First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge, uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is uh like that. It's it's uh very hot at the moment, so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other
Frances Bannister: Marketing.
Cheryl Robinson: uh marketing or did I said management?
Frances Bannister: Management.
Cheryl Robinson: Oh. Just talking about
Frances Bannister: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: myself.
Frances Bannister: that's my function,
Cheryl Robinson: Uh
Frances Bannister: to
Cheryl Robinson: W
Frances Bannister: Okay. Go on.
Cheryl Robinson: What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote, just some uh Yeah. Import export. And uh
Cynthia Jefferson: Som
Cheryl Robinson: another
Cynthia Jefferson: some
Cheryl Robinson: one.
Cynthia Jefferson: bench-marker.
Cheryl Robinson: Uh, they're a ha they're at Yeah, benchmarking, that's the word I saw. I uh couldn't uh Okay, uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey, and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider, instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So, we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company, uh a trustful company, and uh
Frances Bannister: How
Cheryl Robinson: it has m
Frances Bannister: I know a marketing name for our product.
Cheryl Robinson: Okay.
Frances Bannister: R_ th R_ to the third power. R_ three. Real Reaction remote.
Cheryl Robinson: I had a
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh.
Cheryl Robinson: I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh
Frances Bannister: Mm-hmm?
Cheryl Robinson: a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing. When you uh put on remote, you see a kind of a just like when you telephone, you see a little
Cynthia Jefferson: Uh,
Cheryl Robinson: uh animation.
Cynthia Jefferson: logo.
Frances Bannister: Bling.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah?
Cheryl Robinson: Real Reaction remote.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: And uh with the with the with the motto, we put fashion in electronics. And
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: then you go uh
Frances Bannister: Yeah, okay, but it has to be like a split
Cheryl Robinson: The
Frances Bannister: second, because
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Frances Bannister: you have to put in a
Cynthia Jefferson: Well,
Frances Bannister: code also and
Cynthia Jefferson: you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds, they'll still remember it.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: And it it l
Cheryl Robinson: But
Cynthia Jefferson: linger
Cheryl Robinson: w
Cynthia Jefferson: on every time you see
Cheryl Robinson: th
Cynthia Jefferson: it.
Cheryl Robinson: the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own.
Alberta Bruce: Well, if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen, you can you can uh have a small logo i uh at the
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: bottom. And it could just stay
Frances Bannister: That
Alberta Bruce: there.
Frances Bannister: spins
Cheryl Robinson: Mm
Frances Bannister: around
Cheryl Robinson: yep,
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, that
Cheryl Robinson: yeah.
Alberta Bruce: spins
Frances Bannister: like
Alberta Bruce: around
Frances Bannister: all
Alberta Bruce: or
Frances Bannister: the
Alberta Bruce: something.
Frances Bannister: time.
Cynthia Jefferson: Very annoying.
Cheryl Robinson: Also also.
Alberta Bruce: Hmm.
Cheryl Robinson: But we we are uh
Frances Bannister: It it's just like a uh globe in Internet
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah
Frances Bannister: Explorer.
Cheryl Robinson: yeah y yeah
Alberta Bruce: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: yeah.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, something
Cheryl Robinson: Okay,
Alberta Bruce: like that.
Cheryl Robinson: but
Alberta Bruce: A
Cheryl Robinson: uh
Alberta Bruce: small icon.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah,
Cheryl Robinson: think about
Cynthia Jefferson: I
Cheryl Robinson: that kind
Cynthia Jefferson: It's
Cheryl Robinson: of
Cynthia Jefferson: ok
Cheryl Robinson: things.
Cynthia Jefferson: For
Cheryl Robinson: That's
Frances Bannister: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: what they said
Cynthia Jefferson: f
Cheryl Robinson: in the master class.
Cynthia Jefferson: Oh, for the next meeting, right?
Cheryl Robinson: N Uh,
Frances Bannister: Who uh
Cheryl Robinson: next meeting starts in thirty minutes. So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh
Frances Bannister: Who
Cheryl Robinson: once again.
Frances Bannister: who gave you the master class?
Cheryl Robinson: The master class?
Frances Bannister: Ronald Betenberg?
Cheryl Robinson: Franz Mehler's.
Frances Bannister: Okay, thanks.
Cheryl Robinson: Uh, very special, uh next uh session. Uh idea that you uh the the industrial uh development uh centre and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype. And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing.
Frances Bannister: Ah.
Cheryl Robinson: And um, Frances Bannister will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation. But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email.
Cynthia Jefferson: Um
Alberta Bruce: So we're going to work together
Cynthia Jefferson: Stay here
Alberta Bruce: right
Cynthia Jefferson: and
Alberta Bruce: now?
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, the well, uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I
Frances Bannister: In the master class.
Cheryl Robinson: Not in the master class.
Frances Bannister: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh
Cynthia Jefferson: P_.
Cheryl Robinson: But I think it was a very uh very good uh session, uh gentlemen.
Cynthia Jefferson: Ah,
Alberta Bruce: Definitely.
Cynthia Jefferson: no new
Frances Bannister: Frances Bannister
Cynthia Jefferson: email.
Frances Bannister: too.
Cheryl Robinson: I will
Cynthia Jefferson: Okay.
Cheryl Robinson: thank you all.
Alberta Bruce: Well thank you too.
Cynthia Jefferson: Thank you. Thank
Cheryl Robinson: And
Cynthia Jefferson: you
Cheryl Robinson: uh
Cynthia Jefferson: very much.
Frances Bannister: Thank you too,
Cheryl Robinson: Give Frances Bannister
Frances Bannister: lord.
Cheryl Robinson: a good evaluation.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah. Uh-huh.
Frances Bannister: 'Kay guys,
Alberta Bruce: You wish.
Frances Bannister: lot of success.
Alberta Bruce: M
Cynthia Jefferson: See you.
Alberta Bruce: Aye? Cheers.
Cheryl Robinson: Cheers. See you in a half hour.
Alberta Bruce: Hey.
Cheryl Robinson: But keep an eye on your uh
Alberta Bruce: Yeah, uh
Cheryl Robinson: laptops
Alberta Bruce: I'm not sure
Cheryl Robinson: for
Alberta Bruce: if
Cheryl Robinson: a
Alberta Bruce: we
Cheryl Robinson: real
Alberta Bruce: uh we
Cheryl Robinson: uh
Alberta Bruce: Because I saw something about individual actions.
Cheryl Robinson: Yeah, but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together.
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah. Here? Or uh
Cheryl Robinson: That's
Cynthia Jefferson: Yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: not my problem.
Cynthia Jefferson: If you got
Cheryl Robinson: Bye-bye.
Cynthia Jefferson: a No. So Stupid
Alberta Bruce: Well,
Cynthia Jefferson: manager.
Alberta Bruce: yeah.
Cheryl Robinson: Cheryl Robinson always works alone.
Alberta Bruce: Right. Uh Do you have new email?
Cynthia Jefferson: No. Don't
Alberta Bruce: Hmm.
Cynthia Jefferson: get what's | Cheryl Robinson went over the agenda. Alberta Bruce gave a presentation about the options for power source, materials and components. He recommended using kinetic energy, and having a double-curved rubber case. The group decided to combine batteries and kinetic energy. Frances Bannister reported on current trends among young people for fresh fruity colours and spongy material. He explained that the remote should look fancy, and be technologically innovative and easy to use. He suggested using removable customisable covers, speech recognition, installing some games into the remote, and implementing a parental control feature. Cynthia Jefferson talked about having a simple layout with not many buttons. Most features will be controlled through the menu. The group discussed the various options and decided to use games but not speech recognition. After a lot of discussion they decided to implement a simple parental control feature. Cheryl Robinson talked about what he had learned at a masterclass on knowledge management. The group discussed how to incorporate the company logo and motto onto the remote, including having an animated logo on the touch screen. Cheryl Robinson gave the group instructions about what to do before the next meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Maria Grayson: Okay, welcome to the detailed design meeting. Again, I'm gonna take minutes. Oh, we're gonna have a prototype presentation first. Uh, who's gonna give the prototype presentation? You two guys?
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: Okay. Go ahead.
Concepcion Clark: coffee.
Maryann Thomas: 'Kay, we've made a prototype Um, we've got uh uh our aspects from the last meeting. Uh, especially we looked at the form, material and the colour. Um, we've uh drawn here the p prototype. The logo is uh is uh is pretty uh obvious to see on the on the remote control, but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher. Um, our interface elements, there are shown in the drawing. Maybe you can uh point them uh The functions.
Concepcion Clark: Uh well, the uh all the functions are discussed uh I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious. Uh, it's a little bit. Uh, power button. Uh then the the the nine uh channels. Uh the volume uh uh at the side, and the other side is the programmes. And then we had uh just uh two buttons, we place them in the middle, uh the menu, and for the teletext
Maria Grayson: Oh no,
Concepcion Clark: that
Maria Grayson: the
Sonia Osborne: Alright,
Concepcion Clark: was th
Maria Grayson: the
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: the mute button misses now.
Concepcion Clark: Oh,
Maria Grayson: Do y do
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: you
Concepcion Clark: the mute
Maria Grayson: did
Concepcion Clark: button.
Maryann Thomas: But
Maria Grayson: we want
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: to
Maryann Thomas: that
Maria Grayson: have a m
Maryann Thomas: It's
Maria Grayson: mute button?
Maryann Thomas: uh here
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: then, in the middle.
Sonia Osborne: Alright,
Maria Grayson: Huh.
Sonia Osborne: and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Sonia Osborne: and
Maryann Thomas: um
Sonia Osborne: which is the programme button.
Maryann Thomas: we've
Concepcion Clark: Well,
Maryann Thomas: disc
Concepcion Clark: yeah mo uh mo Yeah, well most of them are right-handed.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: Most
Sonia Osborne: but
Maryann Thomas: of
Sonia Osborne: you
Maryann Thomas: the users
Sonia Osborne: you gotta make it clear on the on
Maryann Thomas: Yes, y
Concepcion Clark: Yeah
Maryann Thomas: there
Concepcion Clark: well,
Maryann Thomas: there will be
Concepcion Clark: I
Maryann Thomas: a p a
Concepcion Clark: don't
Maryann Thomas: little
Concepcion Clark: have time in
Maryann Thomas: a
Concepcion Clark: uh
Maryann Thomas: little
Concepcion Clark: anymore
Maryann Thomas: P_ on
Concepcion Clark: on the
Maryann Thomas: that and
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: a little
Sonia Osborne: and a and
Maryann Thomas: uh
Sonia Osborne: a triangle
Concepcion Clark: Oh yeah, just
Sonia Osborne: on that.
Concepcion Clark: progr
Maryann Thomas: yeah.
Concepcion Clark: programme
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: above,
Sonia Osborne: Next
Concepcion Clark: I think.
Sonia Osborne: to that I kinda miss a zero actually.
Maria Grayson: Wait, there's was one thing I wanted to ask. Uh, there are different ways for remote to uh do like uh d I call it teens and twenties. Uh, y
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: th th th the two numbers.
Sonia Osborne: All n no, that's um
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: It's a television.
Concepcion Clark: true,
Sonia Osborne: kinda dependent
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Sonia Osborne: on the television.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: Uh
Maria Grayson: but do we have do we need extra buttons, for example
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: Uh
Sonia Osborne: think
Maria Grayson: some uh some
Concepcion Clark: I
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Concepcion Clark: think
Maria Grayson: have to
Concepcion Clark: so.
Maryann Thomas: yes, you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it, uh
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, I think
Maryann Thomas: th
Sonia Osborne: you
Maryann Thomas: with
Sonia Osborne: should
Maryann Thomas: the
Sonia Osborne: add
Maryann Thomas: one and a double
Concepcion Clark: Zero?
Maryann Thomas: uh uh
Sonia Osborne: A cross, or whatever.
Concepcion Clark: May
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but you
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: maybe
Maryann Thomas: yes.
Maria Grayson: don't
Sonia Osborne: line.
Concepcion Clark: here?
Maria Grayson: you don't actually need them, becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: one first, then
Concepcion Clark: And
Maria Grayson: you
Concepcion Clark: then
Maria Grayson: have
Concepcion Clark: a second.
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maria Grayson: a
Sonia Osborne: that's
Maria Grayson: couple
Sonia Osborne: dependent
Maria Grayson: of seconds
Sonia Osborne: on the television.
Maria Grayson: No, I don't think so.
Maryann Thomas: Yes, you have
Sonia Osborne: I
Maryann Thomas: televisions,
Sonia Osborne: do know so.
Maryann Thomas: then you have to,
Concepcion Clark: Is
Maryann Thomas: you
Concepcion Clark: it
Maryann Thomas: know, you
Concepcion Clark: depending
Maryann Thomas: have to
Concepcion Clark: on television?
Maryann Thomas: uh press
Maria Grayson: Nah, I
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: don't think so really, because you have a I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons, but you still can, know, obviously you can still
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: select the twenty uh
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: a number in the
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: twenty
Maryann Thomas: a lot
Maria Grayson: or
Sonia Osborne: Yes,
Maria Grayson: in the
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: ten.
Sonia Osborne: but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um they come with the television. Or actually, the other way around. But
Maria Grayson: No, I think uh I really think it's n because you can when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: it's the same thing as when you just push the one, because it i it first
Maryann Thomas: Yes, but
Maria Grayson: gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: uh
Sonia Osborne: well
Maria Grayson: apply.
Sonia Osborne: but su
Maryann Thomas: some
Sonia Osborne: If
Maryann Thomas: televisions don't accept uh
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: that
Maria Grayson: because
Maryann Thomas: that
Maria Grayson: that's i it's for television. It's exact the same thing.
Maryann Thomas: No, no, but
Sonia Osborne: No no no. So some
Maryann Thomas: s
Sonia Osborne: television respond differently. Look, if uh i
Maria Grayson: No,
Sonia Osborne: i
Maria Grayson: listen listen. When you push the button, the remote control gives a signal. I in th in the first place
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maria Grayson: it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it.
Sonia Osborne: Yes, that's
Maria Grayson: The one
Sonia Osborne: true.
Maria Grayson: with dash, that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds, then the remote control
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: gives a signal for channel one.
Concepcion Clark: True.
Sonia Osborne: No
Maria Grayson: I think it works that way,
Sonia Osborne: No, it
Maria Grayson: really.
Sonia Osborne: it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it, uh if you push a one, then on your television there will appear a one and a a line,
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but it's exact
Sonia Osborne: which is
Maria Grayson: the same
Sonia Osborne: an empty space.
Maria Grayson: that w would
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: appear
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: when
Maryann Thomas: some
Maria Grayson: you put a separate button
Maryann Thomas: some
Maria Grayson: push
Maryann Thomas: old
Maria Grayson: a separate
Maryann Thomas: televisions
Maria Grayson: button.
Maryann Thomas: uh you have to uh click on uh a special button, uh then you go to a a next level, you can push two buttons.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but you don't
Sonia Osborne: Yep.
Maria Grayson: underst uh you don't
Sonia Osborne: True.
Maria Grayson: understand my point. I think
Maryann Thomas: You want
Maria Grayson: it's exact the same thing
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: when
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: y
Maryann Thomas: some television don't support it.
Maria Grayson: No, but
Concepcion Clark: But
Maria Grayson: then
Concepcion Clark: the ex
Maria Grayson: they would a would also support that button, because it's the same thing. Listen, with that that's that special but button you're talking about, eh? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in on your screen and a dash, which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it. When you don't have that separate button, and you push y one, it's exactly the same thing. Do y you the remote control gives that same signal
Sonia Osborne: No, s
Maria Grayson: as
Sonia Osborne: some
Maryann Thomas: No,
Maria Grayson: it would
Maryann Thomas: a remote
Maria Grayson: give
Maryann Thomas: can
Maria Grayson: when
Sonia Osborne: some
Maria Grayson: you only
Sonia Osborne: televisions
Maria Grayson: had
Sonia Osborne: need the input first
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: uh
Maryann Thomas: Yes, so
Sonia Osborne: and
Maryann Thomas: they
Maria Grayson: But
Maryann Thomas: need
Maria Grayson: you
Sonia Osborne: and
Maria Grayson: give
Sonia Osborne: you c
Maria Grayson: the input.
Maryann Thomas: no, they
Maria Grayson: You
Maryann Thomas: need
Maria Grayson: push the one. That's the same thing as the button
Sonia Osborne: No, that's
Maria Grayson: with
Sonia Osborne: not
Maria Grayson: the one
Sonia Osborne: true.
Maria Grayson: and it
Sonia Osborne: It's
Maria Grayson: yes it
Sonia Osborne: simply
Maria Grayson: it is.
Sonia Osborne: not
Maria Grayson: Think
Sonia Osborne: true.
Maria Grayson: about it.
Sonia Osborne: It's simply
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: No,
Sonia Osborne: not
Maryann Thomas: but
Sonia Osborne: true.
Concepcion Clark: You
Sonia Osborne: Uh
Concepcion Clark: uh you can
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash,
Maria Grayson: And it's the same
Concepcion Clark: and then
Maria Grayson: thing
Concepcion Clark: wait
Maria Grayson: what happens
Concepcion Clark: uh
Maria Grayson: and
Concepcion Clark: two
Maria Grayson: a g remote
Concepcion Clark: uh seconds
Maria Grayson: control
Concepcion Clark: or something
Maria Grayson: gives another signal after five seconds that is just one.
Sonia Osborne: No, remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds. Remote control is a stupid thing. If you push a button, it sends
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: it
Maria Grayson: that's
Sonia Osborne: immediately
Maria Grayson: true.
Sonia Osborne: to to the television.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but I m uh but it's I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the
Maryann Thomas: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: remote
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: control supplied, only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash, but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons, it still works. But okay,
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maria Grayson: we
Sonia Osborne: definitely
Maria Grayson: we'll impl
Sonia Osborne: not.
Concepcion Clark: We'll discuss
Sonia Osborne: Definitely
Concepcion Clark: them
Sonia Osborne: not.
Concepcion Clark: in the usability lab.
Maria Grayson: No, we'll apply
Concepcion Clark: Uh eva
Maria Grayson: them then
Concepcion Clark: evaluation.
Maria Grayson: for now.
Concepcion Clark: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's
Maria Grayson: Yeah, app
Concepcion Clark: it's
Maria Grayson: just apply
Concepcion Clark: necessary.
Maria Grayson: them next to the zero, the one and the
Concepcion Clark: Yeah?
Maria Grayson: two. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for now, if we don't know for sure whether
Concepcion Clark: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: And
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maryann Thomas: the button for the SCART uh
Concepcion Clark: Ach.
Maryann Thomas: audio video uh external
Maria Grayson: Yeah but
Maryann Thomas: input.
Sonia Osborne: Uh, you can access
Maria Grayson: okay.
Sonia Osborne: that uh via zero, and
Maria Grayson: What
Sonia Osborne: then
Maria Grayson: I said
Sonia Osborne: minus,
Maria Grayson: about
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: uh
Sonia Osborne: guess.
Maria Grayson: the remote control sending
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: another signal, that that might
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: not be true, but I still think i it it all T_V_s in some ways support it, I don't know.
Maryann Thomas: No, no.
Maria Grayson: I think it's more c is m maybe we don't uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works, but I think there's more to in than wha
Maryann Thomas: Uh,
Maria Grayson: than
Maryann Thomas: remote
Maria Grayson: what you
Maryann Thomas: control
Maria Grayson: just said.
Maryann Thomas: sends one signal at one button uh press.
Maria Grayson: I do think that uh m
Maryann Thomas: Uh,
Maria Grayson: T_V_s
Maryann Thomas: some
Maria Grayson: support mur multiple kind of remote
Maryann Thomas: N
Maria Grayson: controls.
Maryann Thomas: some televisions
Maria Grayson: M
Maryann Thomas: when when you want to go further than uh ten
Maria Grayson: Th won't work wi
Maryann Thomas: No,
Maria Grayson: with
Maryann Thomas: you
Maria Grayson: uh
Maryann Thomas: have to you have to
Maria Grayson: to
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: have that
Maryann Thomas: give
Maria Grayson: special
Maryann Thomas: the television
Maria Grayson: button.
Maryann Thomas: uh two or more signals. When you uh press one button, you give one signal. And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher. But
Sonia Osborne: Yep.
Maria Grayson: Okay, well we'll see.
Maryann Thomas: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals, it could work, but Just a basic idea of of of the most uh most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the
Sonia Osborne: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: remote.
Sonia Osborne: I kinda miss the docking station.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: Yes. It's here on the
Concepcion Clark: Well it yeah, uh there's nothing
Maryann Thomas: We came
Concepcion Clark: I
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: think it's pretty basic, the the there's
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: no fu there's
Sonia Osborne: No
Concepcion Clark: one
Sonia Osborne: nothing
Concepcion Clark: there's one
Sonia Osborne: really
Concepcion Clark: button,
Sonia Osborne: trendy about it.
Concepcion Clark: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one
Maryann Thomas: But
Concepcion Clark: button
Maryann Thomas: maybe we can
Sonia Osborne: The
Concepcion Clark: when
Sonia Osborne: button.
Concepcion Clark: you want to find
Maryann Thomas: maybe
Concepcion Clark: it.
Maryann Thomas: we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell, because Real Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls.
Sonia Osborne: Yep.
Maryann Thomas: So maybe we can uh use the docking station, for example, uh M_P_ three players or or uh uh hearing devices.
Sonia Osborne: I think that's very difficult, because of different shapes of uh
Maryann Thomas: Yes, but
Sonia Osborne: uh
Maryann Thomas: when
Sonia Osborne: devices.
Maryann Thomas: you put that same volt voltages on it, you can put uh when
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: the
Sonia Osborne: of course.
Maryann Thomas: when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it, when
Sonia Osborne: Mm-hmm.
Maryann Thomas: it's o the same as the other products, you can put it all on the same uh
Sonia Osborne: Well it it got it it has got to fit into the shape, of course.
Maryann Thomas: Yes, but we can make
Sonia Osborne: The technology and the voltage can be the same. That's uh that's true. But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this,
Maryann Thomas: No, we
Sonia Osborne: then
Maryann Thomas: can
Sonia Osborne: they
Maryann Thomas: make
Sonia Osborne: all
Maryann Thomas: uh make
Sonia Osborne: fit.
Maryann Thomas: the most lowest part all the same.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, that's true, but uh
Maryann Thomas: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out, we can place all on top of it.
Sonia Osborne: Yes, but
Maryann Thomas: Just
Sonia Osborne: uh
Maryann Thomas: have
Sonia Osborne: I
Maryann Thomas: to
Sonia Osborne: I
Maryann Thomas: be
Sonia Osborne: g
Maryann Thomas: big enough for the
Sonia Osborne: Shouldn't
Maryann Thomas: biggest
Sonia Osborne: it fall then? It isn't going to fall down? That's a bit uh yeah, I
Maryann Thomas: No,
Sonia Osborne: think
Maryann Thomas: when you make it large enough no it it will not. But then it's
Sonia Osborne: No, but
Maryann Thomas: a little
Sonia Osborne: if
Maryann Thomas: bit
Sonia Osborne: if like this, I'll I'll point it out, if you got uh
Maryann Thomas: But
Sonia Osborne: a
Maryann Thomas: it's just
Sonia Osborne: a a
Maryann Thomas: an
Sonia Osborne: base
Maryann Thomas: idea.
Sonia Osborne: a base like this, I won't draw it really. If you got a base which is uh
Maryann Thomas: But
Sonia Osborne: as
Maryann Thomas: it's flat
Sonia Osborne: big as this
Maryann Thomas: it's flat as as this, so we can p make all the products
Concepcion Clark: You can.
Maryann Thomas: as flat as this.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah
Concepcion Clark: But
Sonia Osborne: sure,
Concepcion Clark: i
Sonia Osborne: but
Concepcion Clark: i
Sonia Osborne: if
Concepcion Clark: i
Sonia Osborne: you
Concepcion Clark: it's
Sonia Osborne: got if
Concepcion Clark: backwards.
Sonia Osborne: you got a tiny player, it can
Maryann Thomas: Yes, but when you make uh uh
Concepcion Clark: But
Maryann Thomas: a bit
Concepcion Clark: it's it's
Maryann Thomas: of
Concepcion Clark: backwards.
Maryann Thomas: big
Concepcion Clark: It's leaning. It's leaning backwards, I think, in
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Concepcion Clark: the in the
Sonia Osborne: Uh, wha
Concepcion Clark: docking
Sonia Osborne: what
Concepcion Clark: station.
Sonia Osborne: you could do if you uh from the bottom oh, right,
Concepcion Clark: That's text.
Sonia Osborne: help.
Maria Grayson: But
Sonia Osborne: Uh, you could make like a hole in it, you know,
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Sonia Osborne: of uh in in
Maryann Thomas: little
Sonia Osborne: the
Maryann Thomas: holer littler Uh, little
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: products go deeper
Sonia Osborne: That
Maryann Thomas: in
Sonia Osborne: i
Maryann Thomas: it.
Sonia Osborne: that is possible,
Maria Grayson: Well let's
Sonia Osborne: yep.
Maria Grayson: ha let's talk about the docking station later, because uh maybe
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: we have
Sonia Osborne: sure,
Maria Grayson: we
Sonia Osborne: you're right.
Maria Grayson: have to uh consider the docking station anyway, because we have some uh
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: cost
Maryann Thomas: And
Maria Grayson: issues
Maryann Thomas: uh uh
Maria Grayson: still
Sonia Osborne: Oh.
Maria Grayson: to come. But we
Maryann Thomas: the
Maria Grayson: have
Maryann Thomas: f
Maria Grayson: to look
Maryann Thomas: the
Maria Grayson: n I
Maryann Thomas: look
Maria Grayson: don't
Maryann Thomas: and
Maria Grayson: know.
Maryann Thomas: feel would be great on this uh remote control,
Sonia Osborne: I don't
Maryann Thomas: because
Sonia Osborne: like the colours.
Maryann Thomas: uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in
Sonia Osborne: Mm-hmm.
Maryann Thomas: the in the smallest uh area.
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: Then your uh left thumb of uh your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button, which is the most common used uh function, and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb. So it's
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: it's it's really good design.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: Alright.
Maria Grayson: That's it?
Maryann Thomas: Yes, uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber, and in the middle uh there is uh a hard
Sonia Osborne: The light.
Maryann Thomas: uh a hard material, a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it.
Sonia Osborne: Okay. And other lights?
Maria Grayson: I think added lights
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: are gonna
Maryann Thomas: we can
Maria Grayson: be a problem
Maryann Thomas: make also
Maria Grayson: too.
Maryann Thomas: n neon lights on it, or or the buttons
Sonia Osborne: No, o on
Maryann Thomas: that
Sonia Osborne: the on
Maryann Thomas: can
Sonia Osborne: the
Maryann Thomas: make
Sonia Osborne: front.
Maryann Thomas: uh light
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, okay.
Maryann Thomas: on it.
Sonia Osborne: Maybe the uh the logo.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: lights?
Maryann Thomas: But, it will also
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, why not?
Maryann Thomas: uh uh use batteries, and do we
Sonia Osborne: Of
Maryann Thomas: want
Sonia Osborne: course.
Maryann Thomas: to
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Concepcion Clark: Mm.
Maria Grayson: For now, uh this is uh is good enough.
Sonia Osborne: Okay.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, what was uh on the
Maryann Thomas: The all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh
Maria Grayson: Okay, but in the oh yeah, the colour, one colour for the rubber, isn't
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: it? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons. And
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: they're be
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: a
Sonia Osborne: Uh,
Maria Grayson: they'll
Sonia Osborne: in
Maria Grayson: be
Sonia Osborne: the same
Maria Grayson: in the same
Sonia Osborne: colour
Maria Grayson: colour
Sonia Osborne: as the
Maria Grayson: as
Sonia Osborne: side.
Maria Grayson: the rubber on the side.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, I think
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: I think
Maria Grayson: And
Sonia Osborne: that'll be
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: good.
Maria Grayson: think we
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: should use a a darker colour for the um plastic, and maybe some more m brighter and flashy
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: stuff
Maryann Thomas: maybe we can use
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maryann Thomas: on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights, so it will uh
Maria Grayson: Yeah, we'll talk about the lights later.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: 'Cause
Sonia Osborne: Yep.
Maria Grayson: I also don yeah, it's depends on the costs and such.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: But uh, and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours, but may I dunno if that's important, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, for now this
Sonia Osborne: We
Maria Grayson: is
Sonia Osborne: will.
Maria Grayson: this is okay. Um, the next p y you gonna give a presentation too? Uh, I have to see the agenda.
Sonia Osborne: Well,
Maryann Thomas: No.
Sonia Osborne: uh yeah, I I'm gonna do something right there, yeah.
Maria Grayson: Detail design.
Sonia Osborne: We gotta do that on the right the most right-most screen, because
Maria Grayson: Evaluation
Sonia Osborne: the leftmost
Maria Grayson: criteria.
Sonia Osborne: Yep, that's Sonia Osborne.
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Concepcion Clark: Okay.
Sonia Osborne: Alright. I will be needing that image, so leave it please. Um Go away. Right, we're gonna evaluate that design according to a few points. Um, we g the four of us are going to do that um together. I wanna have a colour over here, come on. Right, the remote is not ugly, a bit weird sentence, but the positive things has to be on the left, so I said not ugly instead of ugly. Uh, what would you say, we we gotta give points to uh to all of these to evaluate uh that design, and please forget the drawing skills of these guys.
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Sonia Osborne: The remote control is not ugly. How do you feel?
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I think four maybe would be appropriate, because it's Yeah, maybe it really depends on taste. Uh, I mean it's kind of, our design. It's
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maria Grayson: so
Maryann Thomas: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: if maybe a lot of people find it really ugly, you know, o other people find it really cool.
Sonia Osborne: Background colour.
Maria Grayson: I don't know or uh I don't know how you
Sonia Osborne: How
Maryann Thomas: I
Maria Grayson: Casting.
Sonia Osborne: do
Maryann Thomas: think
Sonia Osborne: you guys feel?
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: I think the the fronts will give it a more uh uh uh less uglier uh side, because you can uh make
Sonia Osborne: The different
Maryann Thomas: it in your
Sonia Osborne: designs.
Maryann Thomas: own yes, you can
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maryann Thomas: make it in your own uh
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: more to your own personality or or house
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: style.
Maria Grayson: but we d we didn't we're we're not planning to use fronts, I believe.
Sonia Osborne: No, not not fronts, but
Maria Grayson: With
Concepcion Clark: No,
Maria Grayson: a
Sonia Osborne: different
Concepcion Clark: not
Maria Grayson: colour
Concepcion Clark: fronts.
Sonia Osborne: designs.
Maria Grayson: a co a
Concepcion Clark: Different
Maria Grayson: colours.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: designs.
Maria Grayson: Oh, okay.
Sonia Osborne: And
Concepcion Clark: Different
Sonia Osborne: that's still
Concepcion Clark: colours
Sonia Osborne: uh
Concepcion Clark: maybe, yeah.
Sonia Osborne: uh, yeah, is is uh is a little
Maria Grayson: Okay, but
Sonia Osborne: personal touch, I guess.
Maria Grayson: Oh, maybe
Sonia Osborne: What?
Maria Grayson: we should do three or something that w you know, our
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, wha wha what would you uh
Maryann Thomas: Or
Sonia Osborne: guys
Maryann Thomas: forty.
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: uh think? Personally. Personally.
Concepcion Clark: We can make it a one.
Sonia Osborne: Yes, but what is it?
Maryann Thomas: I think two or three.
Concepcion Clark: Mm yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Guido?
Concepcion Clark: I agree.
Sonia Osborne: Two or three.
Concepcion Clark: Um,
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: I
Sonia Osborne: was
Concepcion Clark: uh I go for the positive. So I go for two.
Sonia Osborne: I was thinking about three, so I guess
Maria Grayson: Uh, I was thinking about four, so I think three is uh
Sonia Osborne: three
Concepcion Clark: Okay,
Sonia Osborne: is
Concepcion Clark: three.
Sonia Osborne: uh a bit uh oh, what am I doing? I'll mark it. The remote control's uh uh that n makes uh zapping easy.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: Yeah well, let that
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: let's make that
Concepcion Clark: Two.
Maria Grayson: a one.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah?
Concepcion Clark: One. One.
Sonia Osborne: Antek,
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: you agree?
Concepcion Clark: Okay yeah, I'll I'll
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: agree.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: That's one thing for
Sonia Osborne: You're
Concepcion Clark: I'm
Maria Grayson: sure.
Sonia Osborne: not
Concepcion Clark: the I'm
Sonia Osborne: Antek.
Concepcion Clark: the usability, so
Sonia Osborne: totally agree. The remote control the remote control's relevant buttons are prominently visible.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, two or
Concepcion Clark: The
Maria Grayson: a one, I guess. It's something we really put work into.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, I yeah. I
Maryann Thomas: It's
Sonia Osborne: would
Maryann Thomas: all
Sonia Osborne: say
Maryann Thomas: about
Sonia Osborne: a one
Maryann Thomas: the buttons.
Sonia Osborne: because uh every button is uh uh relevant. And our oh yeah, it's a b yeah. Yeah? Alright. That's a one? You agree?
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: The remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons. I think we
Maria Grayson: But
Sonia Osborne: totally
Concepcion Clark: Well
Sonia Osborne: succeeded there.
Maria Grayson: Well
Sonia Osborne: Oh
Maria Grayson: maybe a two, because of the menu button
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, well
Maria Grayson: or
Concepcion Clark: menu
Maria Grayson: something.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, that's
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: true.
Concepcion Clark: maybe.
Maria Grayson: And
Sonia Osborne: That's
Maryann Thomas: Also,
Maria Grayson: telete
Sonia Osborne: true.
Maryann Thomas: the the the buttons of the one, the two, the
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: the digits,
Maria Grayson: we don't know if the uh they're necessary.
Maryann Thomas: o
Sonia Osborne: the the yeah, m
Maryann Thomas: they're
Sonia Osborne: well,
Maryann Thomas: used
Sonia Osborne: you
Maryann Thomas: uh
Sonia Osborne: d
Maryann Thomas: uh
Sonia Osborne: you've got a point.
Maria Grayson: I think a two.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, true.
Maryann Thomas: Can yes,
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: three,
Concepcion Clark: I
Maryann Thomas: two.
Maria Grayson: Came
Concepcion Clark: agree.
Maria Grayson: a long way,
Sonia Osborne: Two
Maria Grayson: but
Sonia Osborne: or three?
Maria Grayson: not we didn't not uh
Concepcion Clark: Mm two.
Sonia Osborne: Two?
Maryann Thomas: But
Sonia Osborne: Antek.
Maryann Thomas: you can't make a remote control without them,
Concepcion Clark: Because
Maryann Thomas: because
Concepcion Clark: we got
Sonia Osborne: Nay that that that's true, that's true. They're definitely needed.
Maria Grayson: No, w
Sonia Osborne: So
Maria Grayson: w it can also always be more simplistic,
Sonia Osborne: we put
Maria Grayson: but
Sonia Osborne: it on a
Maria Grayson: two
Sonia Osborne: two?
Maria Grayson: is yeah.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: The remote control has got a really trendy look.
Maryann Thomas: Yes. A one.
Sonia Osborne: Maarten.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, uh
Concepcion Clark: Well.
Maria Grayson: a t I think a two. Yeah yeah, y i it's hard to say from this picture.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: We we've tried to make it uh the the best trendy
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: look uh ever.
Sonia Osborne: Ever, yeah. Guido.
Maria Grayson: But
Concepcion Clark: Uh,
Maria Grayson: I do
Concepcion Clark: I will
Maria Grayson: think
Concepcion Clark: I
Maria Grayson: it's
Concepcion Clark: will
Maria Grayson: more
Concepcion Clark: make it a three, because uh yeah. I
Maria Grayson: But I
Concepcion Clark: I
Maria Grayson: do
Concepcion Clark: th
Maria Grayson: think that it's more trendy than beautiful.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, uh
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: I agree. I agree.
Maria Grayson: So so I think
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: maybe it has
Concepcion Clark: True,
Maria Grayson: to score
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Maria Grayson: higher uh on this
Sonia Osborne: I was
Maria Grayson: than
Sonia Osborne: planning
Maria Grayson: on the
Sonia Osborne: to give it a two, uh where I give the not ugly uh
Maria Grayson: A th a three.
Sonia Osborne: oh, yeah, that's true. You agree on the two?
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: I i uh when you compare to the
Sonia Osborne: Great. Remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded
Maria Grayson: Uh uh
Sonia Osborne: buttons.
Maria Grayson: what's the difference
Sonia Osborne: Uh, I
Maria Grayson: with
Sonia Osborne: copied that one. Well, uh forget that.
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Sonia Osborne: Um Go away. Remote control has got innovative technology implanted.
Concepcion Clark: No.
Maryann Thomas: No.
Maria Grayson: No.
Concepcion Clark: We're not
Maryann Thomas: No,
Concepcion Clark: well, maybe the
Maryann Thomas: not
Concepcion Clark: the
Maryann Thomas: L_C_D_,
Concepcion Clark: the on the side.
Maryann Thomas: so.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but we uh you mean the rubber stuff?
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, and the light.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: And the
Maria Grayson: but
Concepcion Clark: light
Maria Grayson: we have
Concepcion Clark: maybe.
Maria Grayson: t
Maryann Thomas: But
Maria Grayson: we
Maryann Thomas: that
Maria Grayson: have
Maryann Thomas: that's
Maria Grayson: to talk
Maryann Thomas: not
Maria Grayson: about
Maryann Thomas: innovative.
Maria Grayson: the lights
Concepcion Clark: But
Maria Grayson: uh. And
Sonia Osborne: Well,
Maria Grayson: I don't
Maryann Thomas: Lights
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: u
Sonia Osborne: g
Maria Grayson: also it's also really not innovative,
Maryann Thomas: lights are
Maria Grayson: it's more
Sonia Osborne: It's not seven?
Maria Grayson: No, six.
Concepcion Clark: Well, six.
Maria Grayson: Or seven maybe, yeah.
Concepcion Clark: No, six.
Maryann Thomas: Six.
Maria Grayson: Or
Sonia Osborne: Why
Maria Grayson: six.
Sonia Osborne: uh why not
Concepcion Clark: Six.
Sonia Osborne: a seven?
Maria Grayson: Yeah, mine is seven.
Maryann Thomas: Because we've tried to make it a little bit innovative,
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: but it but
Sonia Osborne: How?
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: Uh it's uh depends on the on the
Maryann Thomas: With
Maria Grayson: maybe
Maryann Thomas: the lights it it's it's kind of future
Maria Grayson: No,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: you
Maria Grayson: think
Sonia Osborne: think
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: the lights
Maria Grayson: think
Sonia Osborne: are
Maria Grayson: actually
Sonia Osborne: innovative?
Maria Grayson: it's a seven maybe, but there's nothing innovative about it.
Sonia Osborne: Well, it's n true. Uh, I agree, m but
Maryann Thomas: But still you can retrieve it when it's when it's gone, with the
Concepcion Clark: Innovative in
Maryann Thomas: with
Concepcion Clark: generally
Sonia Osborne: I'll
Concepcion Clark: or just
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, you
Concepcion Clark: f
Sonia Osborne: you didn't draw the
Concepcion Clark: original
Sonia Osborne: docking station.
Concepcion Clark: for
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: N no
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: The docking
Maria Grayson: no,
Sonia Osborne: it
Maria Grayson: t.
Sonia Osborne: it's
Maryann Thomas: station
Concepcion Clark: A docking
Maryann Thomas: is a
Concepcion Clark: station
Maryann Thomas: is a little
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: think
Maryann Thomas: bit
Maria Grayson: I
Concepcion Clark: is
Maria Grayson: mean
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: the
Concepcion Clark: innova
Maryann Thomas: innovative.
Sonia Osborne: think
Maria Grayson: dock station,
Sonia Osborne: with its
Maria Grayson: but but uh, I think
Maryann Thomas: It's
Maria Grayson: the
Maryann Thomas: a part of the remote.
Sonia Osborne: I think
Maria Grayson: the docking
Sonia Osborne: more
Maria Grayson: station,
Sonia Osborne: m
Maria Grayson: it's gonna be a kind of a problem.
Concepcion Clark: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: And with the speaker
Maria Grayson: But
Sonia Osborne: Uh that
Maryann Thomas: on the
Sonia Osborne: that's
Maryann Thomas: there's
Sonia Osborne: n
Maryann Thomas: also a
Maria Grayson: Well,
Maryann Thomas: speaker.
Maria Grayson: let's leave it open for uh for us later to see what, because we have to reevaluate anyway. Well I i
Maryann Thomas: Okay.
Maria Grayson: yeah. No?
Sonia Osborne: No uh, well, the agenda says evaluate now, so I think we
Maria Grayson: Okay, for now it's a six
Sonia Osborne: It's
Maria Grayson: or a seven
Sonia Osborne: it's a six.
Maria Grayson: uh, sev six
Concepcion Clark: Six.
Maria Grayson: maybe, because
Maryann Thomas: But the retrieval
Sonia Osborne: That m
Maryann Thomas: or
Sonia Osborne: f
Maryann Thomas: the
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: for the retrieval
Maria Grayson: but I don't
Sonia Osborne: function.
Maria Grayson: I don't know if it's very inno yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah. I think that's very innovative for a
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Sonia Osborne: remote
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: control.
Maria Grayson: v
Maryann Thomas: how would you innovate a remote control more?
Maria Grayson: Yeah, more through uh like function T_V_ functionalities
Maryann Thomas: To put it on your
Maria Grayson: and
Maryann Thomas: head.
Maria Grayson: no no, you know what I mean. You have must be innovative technology for remote controls, but more
Sonia Osborne: Yeah
Maria Grayson: in
Sonia Osborne: sure,
Maria Grayson: how
Sonia Osborne: but
Maria Grayson: you control stuff, not in how you find your yeah. Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: But I
Maria Grayson: it's
Sonia Osborne: d I definitely don't think
Maria Grayson: that's
Sonia Osborne: it's
Maria Grayson: that's
Sonia Osborne: a five,
Maria Grayson: think
Sonia Osborne: but
Maria Grayson: about it la later on and uh
Sonia Osborne: Remote control is easy to use.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, as a a
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: one or a two ma
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: uh
Concepcion Clark: a
Maria Grayson: at least.
Concepcion Clark: two.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: I think a two. Yeah?
Maria Grayson: Yeah, it's good.
Concepcion Clark: More
Sonia Osborne: Come
Concepcion Clark: two.
Sonia Osborne: on. The remote control hasn't got uh.
Maria Grayson: No, I would have seen that one before. Oh, you skipped one uh
Sonia Osborne: I've just filled uh
Maria Grayson: Uh, here.
Sonia Osborne: Go away.
Maryann Thomas: You like the buttons.
Sonia Osborne: I found twelve questions so much, but it still is
Maria Grayson: Remote
Sonia Osborne: ten.
Maria Grayson: control will be bought by
Sonia Osborne: It will be bought by people under the age of forty.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Concepcion Clark: Yes.
Maria Grayson: Definitely.
Maryann Thomas: In
Maria Grayson: Well
Maryann Thomas: in and comparing with uh people of th of
Sonia Osborne: No
Maryann Thomas: the age
Sonia Osborne: no no.
Maryann Thomas: above?
Maria Grayson: Uh,
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maria Grayson: just
Sonia Osborne: just
Maria Grayson: in general.
Sonia Osborne: if they if they buy it.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, a two.
Maryann Thomas: We don't know.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: But
Maria Grayson: but
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, what
Maria Grayson: I think
Sonia Osborne: do you think?
Maria Grayson: I
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: think two.
Concepcion Clark: I think two, yeah. I agree.
Sonia Osborne: Antek?
Concepcion Clark: Two.
Maryann Thomas: Yes, two, but only in c when you compare it with with elderly.
Maria Grayson: Uh, that
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maria Grayson: is
Sonia Osborne: that's
Maria Grayson: not the
Sonia Osborne: no
Maria Grayson: question.
Sonia Osborne: comparison.
Maria Grayson: It's just w it will be bought by people under forty. Yeah, you can yeah, you can be very
Sonia Osborne: And I don't
Maria Grayson: picky about
Sonia Osborne: mean
Maryann Thomas: This
Maria Grayson: it.
Maryann Thomas: is
Sonia Osborne: two
Maryann Thomas: just
Sonia Osborne: people.
Maryann Thomas: guessing.
Maria Grayson: Ah yeah, just make it we'll make
Maryann Thomas: Make
Sonia Osborne: W
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: a
Sonia Osborne: w
Maryann Thomas: a
Maria Grayson: two.
Maryann Thomas: two. When it succeeds, uh it can get a two, mu
Sonia Osborne: Right, the rem The remote control has
Maria Grayson: Oh
Sonia Osborne: recognisable
Maria Grayson: no.
Sonia Osborne: corporate image, colour,
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: logo or slogan.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, you have
Concepcion Clark: We don't
Maria Grayson: make
Concepcion Clark: have
Maria Grayson: an
Concepcion Clark: the slogan though.
Maria Grayson: slogan is quite obvious.
Sonia Osborne: Oh, the slogan.
Maria Grayson: Oh the oh
Sonia Osborne: Can
Maria Grayson: sorry,
Sonia Osborne: we see the slogan?
Maria Grayson: no, not not the slogan.
Concepcion Clark: The logo.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: A logo.
Maria Grayson: you can put that on the side if if we would like
Concepcion Clark: Underneath
Maria Grayson: to.
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Concepcion Clark: it
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: or something.
Maryann Thomas: encrypted uh with
Maria Grayson: Yeah, and I will
Sonia Osborne: Are
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: we
Maria Grayson: th
Sonia Osborne: gonna do that?
Maria Grayson: still think it's gonna be a two
Concepcion Clark: A
Maria Grayson: or
Concepcion Clark: three.
Maria Grayson: a three. Maybe
Concepcion Clark: Three.
Maria Grayson: a three this time.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: a three.
Sonia Osborne: Three? I agree. Because of the slogan
Maria Grayson: And
Sonia Osborne: Remote
Maria Grayson: uh
Sonia Osborne: control's got a basic design intended uh for
Maria Grayson: Uh,
Sonia Osborne: novice
Maria Grayson: it's a one
Sonia Osborne: users.
Maria Grayson: or a two.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, two.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: Two?
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: Two.
Maria Grayson: make it a two.
Sonia Osborne: Two. Alright. We gotta add up the scores now to see our total average. Four, five, seven, nine. Forget that. Fifteen, seventeen, twenty one, twenty four, twenty six. Twenty six. It's a two point six.
Maria Grayson: It's not that bad.
Sonia Osborne: Alright, we yeah.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, and that's mostly the inno when we uh score higher on innovative technology, we would score two,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: which is
Sonia Osborne: True.
Maria Grayson: uh quite a great score. Okay. Uh, this is was uh the evaluation?
Sonia Osborne: This was my evaluation.
Maria Grayson: Because I
Sonia Osborne: So
Maria Grayson: I still think that the most important part
Sonia Osborne: We did
Maria Grayson: of this
Sonia Osborne: a pretty
Maria Grayson: meeting
Sonia Osborne: nice
Maria Grayson: still has
Sonia Osborne: job until now.
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Um, is this your
Maryann Thomas: Is there something
Sonia Osborne: Whatever.
Maryann Thomas: after this uh meeting?
Sonia Osborne: Well, I think
Maryann Thomas: Or
Sonia Osborne: we gotta fill out
Concepcion Clark: No.
Sonia Osborne: another questionnaire.
Maryann Thomas: Okay.
Concepcion Clark: Okay, yeah.
Maria Grayson: Still opened or uh Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: Okay, finance. Because um
Concepcion Clark: Shoot.
Maria Grayson: I received
Sonia Osborne: A five.
Maria Grayson: uh a spreadsheet.
Sonia Osborne: A five.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but I uh actually don't need this presentation, I guess. Oh.
Sonia Osborne: Doesn't matter.
Maria Grayson: I'm gonna open the spreadsheet and we're gonna work this out together, because I didn't really fin uh I have a. Didn't really finish it. Well, we uh We'll see. We'll stumble upon some problems.
Sonia Osborne: We probably will.
Maria Grayson: I probably have already opened it here. try it again. First of all, the mm all the docking station and costs and such are not included in this list. But let's let's st start with beginning. We include one battery. I i uh I'll explain its Uh, the the components are listed over here. Uh, price is given. We um
Sonia Osborne: The amount, yeah.
Maria Grayson: yeah, we we uh indicate the amount of components of the specif specific component, how much we need of them. And then uh, we'll uh calcula Don't watch the number yet. I don't know if it's filled in properly. Okay, we need one battery. One battery. I think
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: one battery is enough. We don't need kinetic, solar cells, hand dynamo. A s okay, this this is a p first problem. Uh, I think we should know how many simple chips, regular
Maryann Thomas: Uh it's
Maria Grayson: chips
Maryann Thomas: it's one one chip, but but you have to choose one from it.
Maria Grayson: Okay. But
Maryann Thomas: The simple chip is e enough I I think, but with
Sonia Osborne: I
Maryann Thomas: the
Sonia Osborne: don't
Maryann Thomas: lights
Sonia Osborne: know
Maryann Thomas: with the lights and the retrieval,
Maria Grayson: Where
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: did
Maryann Thomas: can
Maria Grayson: we
Maryann Thomas: be
Maria Grayson: find
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: this information?
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: Was
Sonia Osborne: haven't
Maria Grayson: it
Sonia Osborne: got an idea on on which we need to use, really.
Maryann Thomas: No, uh
Maria Grayson: I think
Concepcion Clark: No.
Maryann Thomas: I
Maria Grayson: it was uh your job in the first uh meet Uh, f your first presentation to make this clear, but
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: then you
Maryann Thomas: my
Maria Grayson: had some
Maryann Thomas: my
Maria Grayson: t
Maryann Thomas: my
Maria Grayson: time problems.
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: But do you th you do you know what chip we need?
Maryann Thomas: The the email I got said uh simple chip, but when we put in the speaker and the retriever uh device,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: it will uh cost a a bit more, like I think the advanced chip maybe.
Sonia Osborne: And how do you know? I mean, you got that email.
Maryann Thomas: Bec
Sonia Osborne: Did it point out
Maria Grayson: Maybe you can
Sonia Osborne: what
Maryann Thomas: No,
Maria Grayson: uh look
Sonia Osborne: to
Maryann Thomas: the
Sonia Osborne: use
Maria Grayson: it up
Sonia Osborne: them
Maria Grayson: right
Sonia Osborne: for?
Maria Grayson: now.
Maryann Thomas: they didn't know about a retriever or a
Maria Grayson: Okay, but
Maryann Thomas: speaker
Maria Grayson: okay.
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: When we
Maryann Thomas: in
Maria Grayson: don't
Maryann Thomas: it.
Maria Grayson: when we leave the uh retriever and such aside, what
Maryann Thomas: Then it's a simple chip.
Maria Grayson: then it would be a simple chip. And with the retriever, it would be an advanced chip.
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Sonia Osborne: Alright,
Maryann Thomas: I
Sonia Osborne: well,
Maryann Thomas: I I s I
Sonia Osborne: point out the advanced chip for now, I guess.
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: That will be enough
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: for
Maria Grayson: but
Maryann Thomas: future
Maria Grayson: it will
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: recommendations.
Maria Grayson: will it will be cause a lot of problems. The sample sensor sample speaker. What is it m is that the speaker we were t I don't know what it is.
Maryann Thomas: I don't know it uh either.
Sonia Osborne: I don't know.
Maria Grayson: Okay, we went for the double-curved case
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: made out of plastic and rubber. And with a special colour. I guess that's what we were
Concepcion Clark: Well, special colour.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I don't know about the special colour,
Maryann Thomas: Otherwise,
Maria Grayson: but
Sonia Osborne: I
Maryann Thomas: you
Sonia Osborne: don't
Concepcion Clark: I
Maryann Thomas: get
Concepcion Clark: don't
Sonia Osborne: know
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: if
Maria Grayson: think
Sonia Osborne: it's
Maryann Thomas: uh
Sonia Osborne: very special.
Maria Grayson: w
Maryann Thomas: a
Maria Grayson: uh
Maryann Thomas: standard uh plastic colour.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I think we uh
Concepcion Clark: Mm
Maria Grayson: we have
Concepcion Clark: okay.
Maria Grayson: special
Maryann Thomas: Standard
Maria Grayson: colours.
Maryann Thomas: rubber.
Sonia Osborne: Alright, that's okay.
Maria Grayson: Okay,
Maryann Thomas: St
Maria Grayson: then the push-button, I was just counting them. Uh, I think you have to indicate the amount of push-buttons we want to use, isn't it?
Concepcion Clark: Whoa, it's
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: a little
Maria Grayson: Well that's bit of a problem, because
Concepcion Clark: That's huge.
Maria Grayson: I re but I really don't understand that, because I can imagine a remote control with far more push-buttons, and it wouldn't be possible according to this
Concepcion Clark: No.
Maria Grayson: uh
Concepcion Clark: We have
Maria Grayson: sheet.
Concepcion Clark: the simplest
Sonia Osborne: No.
Concepcion Clark: buttons.
Maryann Thomas: No, it's only
Maria Grayson: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: uh when you use push-buttons, it will cost that much.
Sonia Osborne: I don't think so,
Maryann Thomas: If you
Sonia Osborne: because
Maryann Thomas: use a
Sonia Osborne: it
Maryann Thomas: scroll-wheel
Maria Grayson: Ah.
Sonia Osborne: says amount.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, it
Sonia Osborne: The
Maria Grayson: wouldn't
Sonia Osborne: the the yellow row is the amount
Maria Grayson: Fill
Sonia Osborne: of
Maria Grayson: in the number of components you plan to use in the and the total cost I don't know.
Maryann Thomas: Maybe
Maria Grayson: I
Maryann Thomas: it's the kind of push-buttons. You can have f four kind of push-buttons. Rubber.
Concepcion Clark: Uh, one til
Maryann Thomas: You
Concepcion Clark: nine.
Maryann Thomas: can have
Concepcion Clark: Is that
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: one or is that nine
Maria Grayson: And I count them
Concepcion Clark: buttons?
Maria Grayson: like this. One two three uh four five six seven eight nine ten
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: eleven twelve and thirteen. Because Oh, this is oh, this is one, okay. Twelve, okay, then it would be eighteen, because uh, I uh rated them as uh um
Sonia Osborne: To
Maria Grayson: as
Sonia Osborne: n
Maria Grayson: uh
Sonia Osborne: that's
Maryann Thomas: Different,
Sonia Osborne: total
Maria Grayson: uh uh separate
Sonia Osborne: of four
Maria Grayson: buttons.
Sonia Osborne: buttons.
Maryann Thomas: yes.
Maria Grayson: Yes. And
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: plus
Sonia Osborne: think
Maria Grayson: these
Sonia Osborne: that
Maria Grayson: two, f uh plus the mute button, and it's will be uh eighteen.
Sonia Osborne: Eighteen. One two three four five, si
Maryann Thomas: Why is that so uh expensive.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I don't understand. Y I do I don't get the point, because it's would be s relatively so expensive, just these m small buttons.
Concepcion Clark: Is it cents, the the the fifty cents
Sonia Osborne: Fifty cents
Concepcion Clark: a button?
Sonia Osborne: for one single stupid button.
Maryann Thomas: So, whe
Concepcion Clark: No
Maryann Thomas: when
Concepcion Clark: way.
Maryann Thomas: you so
Maria Grayson: Well,
Maryann Thomas: then
Maria Grayson: okay, well
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: well let's make it just one.
Maryann Thomas: It's eighty percent of the price of the of
Maria Grayson: Here,
Maryann Thomas: the
Maria Grayson: now
Maryann Thomas: amount
Maria Grayson: it's
Maryann Thomas: of
Maria Grayson: now it's already
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Maria Grayson: s shall we just give our own interpretation to, because else we would really have a problem. It would be impossible to make
Sonia Osborne: I can't
Maria Grayson: it
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: It's
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: way
Sonia Osborne: I couldn't understand it if it was fifty cents per uh uh per button.
Maryann Thomas: When you have the
Sonia Osborne: Really.
Maryann Thomas: same amount of button, you have to put in wi in your carton. Board.
Maria Grayson: And and less
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: And then throw
Maria Grayson: buttons
Sonia Osborne: yeah,
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: than this isn't possible. This is
Concepcion Clark: No,
Maria Grayson: the most
Concepcion Clark: no
Maria Grayson: simple
Concepcion Clark: no.
Maria Grayson: yeah, it is possible, but
Maryann Thomas: But
Maria Grayson: I've
Maryann Thomas: whe
Maria Grayson: never seen one before.
Maryann Thomas: I've seen
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maryann Thomas: one
Sonia Osborne: really.
Maryann Thomas: uh one remote control
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: with
Maria Grayson: without
Maryann Thomas: only the
Maria Grayson: the numbers.
Maryann Thomas: pu yeah, only
Maria Grayson: That's
Maryann Thomas: with
Maria Grayson: possible.
Maryann Thomas: uh page up, page down
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: and
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: volume,
Maria Grayson: we could
Concepcion Clark: uh
Maria Grayson: skip
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: the numbers.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, but
Maryann Thomas: but
Sonia Osborne: I d I wouldn't want to own that. Really.
Concepcion Clark: That's still
Maryann Thomas: Uh, it's it's
Concepcion Clark: four.
Maryann Thomas: still for little children. They can handle that remote
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: control, but
Maria Grayson: Then uh,
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: teletext
Maryann Thomas: it isn't fo
Maria Grayson: would also be im impossible.
Maryann Thomas: Yes, it's for it's li uh it's
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: just for
Concepcion Clark: that's
Maryann Thomas: a
Concepcion Clark: no
Maryann Thomas: little
Maria Grayson: Okay,
Concepcion Clark: option,
Maria Grayson: we'll
Concepcion Clark: that's
Maria Grayson: we'll
Concepcion Clark: no
Maria Grayson: just
Concepcion Clark: option.
Maria Grayson: okay. But then still, when we there's no room for a docking station or something. Tha w Le let's see th we have uh oh yeah, button supplements. We'll give the buttons special colour. We'll give them a special form. Uh, I think we should mark the special form thing, because it this will be some special forms incorporated in these big buttons, I guess.
Concepcion Clark: A special colour, why a special colour?
Maria Grayson: Because the buttons will be uh d will be matching colour
Concepcion Clark: But
Maria Grayson: between
Concepcion Clark: wha what
Maria Grayson: the buttons
Concepcion Clark: s what
Maria Grayson: and the
Concepcion Clark: special?
Maria Grayson: rubber surroundings.
Maryann Thomas: Otherwise,
Maria Grayson: I think that's
Concepcion Clark: Okay,
Maryann Thomas: it
Maria Grayson: the what
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Maria Grayson: they mean by a special colour.
Maryann Thomas: Otherwise
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: Uh,
Sonia Osborne: don't think
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Maryann Thomas: it
Sonia Osborne: the special
Maria Grayson: I
Maryann Thomas: would
Maria Grayson: think
Maryann Thomas: be
Sonia Osborne: form
Maria Grayson: all
Maryann Thomas: the
Maria Grayson: the
Sonia Osborne: is
Maria Grayson: special
Sonia Osborne: really true.
Maria Grayson: colour things have to be marked over here, because that's what we were planning to do, making it
Maryann Thomas: Special form also, it says.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, special
Sonia Osborne: Is it?
Maria Grayson: material r also, because i has rubber. And the buttons have to be rubber.
Maryann Thomas: What is the normal material?
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: Plastic.
Sonia Osborne: I dunno.
Maryann Thomas: Sh
Concepcion Clark: Plastic,
Maryann Thomas: yeah.
Concepcion Clark: I think.
Maryann Thomas: Classic?
Concepcion Clark: Plastic.
Sonia Osborne: Plastic.
Maryann Thomas: Oh, plastic.
Maria Grayson: 'Kay, but the problem now is that the There's no such thing as a docking station in this list, but we can all imagine that it would be impossible to
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: make a docking station for thirty cents.
Maryann Thomas: But we can uh sell the remote control and uh sell the docking station
Maria Grayson: Separately.
Concepcion Clark: Se
Maryann Thomas: yes.
Concepcion Clark: no no
Maryann Thomas: And
Concepcion Clark: no.
Maryann Thomas: and but we don't have to tell it, but what we can say of can um almost make it impossible to buy a remote control without the docking station.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I do like the idea, but we yeah. It uh but it then the docking station isn't relevant for this project anymore, but we can
Sonia Osborne: No.
Maryann Thomas: No, but you
Maria Grayson: but then
Maryann Thomas: otherwise you can't
Maria Grayson: you
Maryann Thomas: retrieve
Maria Grayson: still have to use
Maryann Thomas: it.
Maria Grayson: we have to find out what chip we u need.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, I really don't get it. I mean if it's a simple chip, then
Maria Grayson: I think
Sonia Osborne: we
Maria Grayson: we
Sonia Osborne: suddenly
Maria Grayson: can agree
Sonia Osborne: got
Maria Grayson: on this.
Sonia Osborne: two
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: Euros and
Maria Grayson: I
Sonia Osborne: thirty
Maria Grayson: think
Sonia Osborne: cents.
Maria Grayson: the special colour thing has to be uh marked. 'Cause I think we
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: uh
Sonia Osborne: yep.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I think that's what what what they uh
Maryann Thomas: But for
Maria Grayson: mean
Maryann Thomas: two Euros
Sonia Osborne: I think so,
Maryann Thomas: and
Sonia Osborne: too.
Maryann Thomas: thirty cents, we uh we don't get a docking station.
Sonia Osborne: Oh, I don't know.
Maria Grayson: But can we find out uh about uh this chips? Because when we don't need a d a docking station, then probably we also have only we also need a simple chip.
Concepcion Clark: And then we can get a docking
Maria Grayson: And maybe
Concepcion Clark: station.
Maria Grayson: then we can do something extra.
Maryann Thomas: For
Maria Grayson: Oh, n uh oh, still oh, it's gonna get more expensive with. Two. Then we have some money left. We can put then
Maryann Thomas: For two Euros.
Maria Grayson: We can put a scroll-wheel on it or something. Yeah, well who knows.
Sonia Osborne: Uh why? I
Maria Grayson: Or
Sonia Osborne: mean
Maria Grayson: a little
Sonia Osborne: i
Maria Grayson: bit
Sonia Osborne: i if
Maria Grayson: of tin
Sonia Osborne: you
Maria Grayson: titanium.
Sonia Osborne: if it would cost two Euros, that had a total a total thing, it would be nice too, I mean uh we're not gonna add uh
Concepcion Clark: But what
Sonia Osborne: a trip
Concepcion Clark: what
Sonia Osborne: to
Concepcion Clark: can
Sonia Osborne: Hawaii
Concepcion Clark: we do
Sonia Osborne: to
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: it.
Maria Grayson: or we can ki do the kinetic cells. That's also maybe an idea.
Concepcion Clark: But uh what can we do with the simple chip and what's difference
Maria Grayson: Yeah that's
Concepcion Clark: with
Maria Grayson: what
Concepcion Clark: a
Maria Grayson: then
Concepcion Clark: regular
Maria Grayson: what he has
Concepcion Clark: chip
Maria Grayson: to find
Concepcion Clark: and a advanced
Maria Grayson: out. Maybe you can
Concepcion Clark: chip?
Maria Grayson: uh find it in your email right now, then we know
Concepcion Clark: If if
Maria Grayson: then we
Concepcion Clark: i
Maria Grayson: exactly know what it will cost us. Maybe is that that's nice to know.
Concepcion Clark: Regular chip and because we don't have uh special functions to use uh
Maria Grayson: Yeah, bu bu but
Concepcion Clark: in advanced
Maria Grayson: when we
Concepcion Clark: chip, for example.
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: yeah,
Sonia Osborne: like the hand dynamo part.
Maria Grayson: but when we skip when we um when we don't use the do we're not gonna make the docking station, then we still yeah, we need something else maybe to make it kind of special, because that was our our special feature.
Sonia Osborne: We can make a plain
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: docking station for two Euros.
Concepcion Clark: We'll
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: go
Sonia Osborne: mean
Concepcion Clark: back uh
Maria Grayson: Yeah, okay,
Concepcion Clark: tomorrow.
Maria Grayson: you can also do that, but maybe
Sonia Osborne: Wi wi without recharge
Maria Grayson: It still is a special remote control cons uh you know, wi its form is special
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, but but
Maria Grayson: and
Sonia Osborne: we can make a docking
Maria Grayson: material.
Sonia Osborne: station for two Euros uh if you don't put the recharge function in it. I mean, it has a shape.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but
Sonia Osborne: Of
Maria Grayson: for
Sonia Osborne: course
Maria Grayson: two
Sonia Osborne: it has
Maria Grayson: Euros,
Sonia Osborne: a shape, but
Maria Grayson: then
Sonia Osborne: i
Maria Grayson: we have
Sonia Osborne: i
Maria Grayson: still maybe we have to use the advanced chip, then two Euros isn't even possible.
Sonia Osborne: Why should that not be possible?
Maria Grayson: Yeah, then because then we'd thirty cents left.
Sonia Osborne: No, for for the uh for the docking station if you do if you choose the simple chip.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, because maybe d uh yeah, we have to find
Concepcion Clark: That's
Maria Grayson: out with
Concepcion Clark: the
Maria Grayson: the
Concepcion Clark: question.
Maria Grayson: simple chip.
Concepcion Clark: If we do i do we need an advanced chip, or
Sonia Osborne: Yes.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: is
Maria Grayson: and
Concepcion Clark: it
Maria Grayson: w
Concepcion Clark: okay
Maria Grayson: and and
Concepcion Clark: f
Maria Grayson: we
Maryann Thomas: It
Maria Grayson: uh need
Maryann Thomas: isn't
Maria Grayson: f
Maryann Thomas: in my
Maria Grayson: and
Maryann Thomas: information,
Maria Grayson: what is this? Sample
Maryann Thomas: so
Maria Grayson: sensor
Maryann Thomas: I don't know
Maria Grayson: sample
Maryann Thomas: it uh
Maria Grayson: speaker.
Maryann Thomas: either. It isn't in my information, I uh I I've got a schematic view of the remote control, but nothing about uh advanced chips or
Maria Grayson: You can look at it for s presentation. S technical functions?
Concepcion Clark: No.
Maryann Thomas: Uh I've got here
Concepcion Clark: No
Maryann Thomas: in
Concepcion Clark: no,
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: they were uh mine,
Maryann Thomas: I will
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Maryann Thomas: put
Maria Grayson: Oh.
Maryann Thomas: a I will put a page on it. When my mouse works again.
Maria Grayson: Oh, oh oh. Hey. Oh.
Maryann Thomas: My mouse is uh
Sonia Osborne: Dead.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: Reanimate it.
Maryann Thomas: Oh.
Concepcion Clark: Died.
Maryann Thomas: Ah, I've got it. I will put uh my email on the the network.
Sonia Osborne: What the hell are these?
Maryann Thomas: It's on it.
Sonia Osborne: Oh, whatever.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, it's open.
Maria Grayson: Mm. I don't think here
Concepcion Clark: It's circuit
Maria Grayson: it's in
Concepcion Clark: board.
Maria Grayson: here already.
Concepcion Clark: It's only just
Maria Grayson: It's nothing about
Concepcion Clark: basics
Maria Grayson: s yeah.
Concepcion Clark: for for
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Concepcion Clark: At the end circuit
Sonia Osborne: This isn't helpful.
Concepcion Clark: there is an infrared
Maria Grayson: No.
Concepcion Clark: LED.
Maria Grayson: But i in the presentation of yours, there was also something about different components. Which one was it?
Concepcion Clark: Components design.
Maria Grayson: Functional requirements?
Maryann Thomas: Um
Sonia Osborne: No, that was my presentation.
Concepcion Clark: Components design maybe.
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Concepcion Clark: N on
Maryann Thomas: that
Concepcion Clark: top.
Maryann Thomas: was mine.
Maria Grayson: Ah. Ah yes, it was the second one.
Maryann Thomas: But that was my second
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: It's
Maria Grayson: it was
Sonia Osborne: already
Maria Grayson: your second
Sonia Osborne: open.
Maria Grayson: your first presentation.
Sonia Osborne: It's at the bottom.
Concepcion Clark: Working
Maria Grayson: Sorry?
Concepcion Clark: design.
Sonia Osborne: It's uh at your task bar.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, but it's the the other one.
Sonia Osborne: Oh.
Maryann Thomas: Mm
Maria Grayson: Uh,
Concepcion Clark: Was it
Maria Grayson: this
Concepcion Clark: working
Maria Grayson: is n this
Sonia Osborne: Sorry.
Concepcion Clark: design
Maria Grayson: is not this
Concepcion Clark: or components design?
Maria Grayson: n that's not the right one. I don't oh.
Sonia Osborne: Okay, sorry.
Maria Grayson: No, this is the other one. Or maybe something is uh maybe there's something abo in in these
Concepcion Clark: Chip set.
Maryann Thomas: But this is the same uh This is o only the possibilities.
Maria Grayson: Here.
Maryann Thomas: Yeah. We can use a simple, a regular, or advanced chip.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah, nice.
Concepcion Clark: The
Sonia Osborne: I it
Concepcion Clark: display
Sonia Osborne: doesn't say
Concepcion Clark: requires
Sonia Osborne: anything.
Maria Grayson: You know
Concepcion Clark: an
Maria Grayson: that
Concepcion Clark: advanced
Maria Grayson: a push-button
Concepcion Clark: chip.
Maria Grayson: requires a simple chip, but a scroll-wheel, it it Sonia Osborne requires
Maryann Thomas: Ah, okay.
Maria Grayson: Okay, so we only
Concepcion Clark: Requires.
Maria Grayson: need a simple chip.
Maryann Thomas: With the light.
Concepcion Clark: Little lights. Yeah, but that that's just the same as the
Maria Grayson: No no, that's
Concepcion Clark: the LED.
Maria Grayson: just a simple chip.
Sonia Osborne: That's not needed.
Maria Grayson: A scroll-wheel it s uh only states that a scroll-wheel requires a regular chip, and that a display requires an advanced chip. So, we don't
Sonia Osborne: A display
Maria Grayson: need any of them.
Sonia Osborne: uh is, of course, uh for showing
Maryann Thomas: L_C_D_.
Sonia Osborne: letters. For showing text.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Sonia Osborne: I don't think that uh
Concepcion Clark: No.
Sonia Osborne: just a l a little light
Concepcion Clark: I think uh the uh normal uh simple chip will
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Concepcion Clark: be okay.
Sonia Osborne: I agree.
Maria Grayson: And what's the sample sensor slash sample speaker?
Maryann Thomas: Maybe you can say against the remote uh page uh
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: f uh page up, page
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: down.
Sonia Osborne: I guess so too.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, true.
Sonia Osborne: Next
Concepcion Clark: Well, that's not
Sonia Osborne: channel.
Concepcion Clark: too what we want.
Sonia Osborne: No. Well, we might want it, but
Maria Grayson: Okay.
Maryann Thomas: All in twelve
Maria Grayson: Back
Maryann Thomas: Euros.
Maria Grayson: to the costs.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: Twelve Euros and fifty cents.
Maria Grayson: So we're
Concepcion Clark: So,
Maria Grayson: gonna
Concepcion Clark: simple
Maria Grayson: use the simple
Concepcion Clark: chip is okay.
Maria Grayson: chip.
Sonia Osborne: Great. Delete. Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: And the lights. Where uh are the lights?
Concepcion Clark: lights, yeah, there's no
Sonia Osborne: Well, there're three, I guess.
Concepcion Clark: category.
Maria Grayson: Nah, there is some money left to be spent.
Concepcion Clark: Can we do it wi within
Sonia Osborne: I think
Concepcion Clark: two
Sonia Osborne: we can make a docking
Concepcion Clark: two Euro?
Sonia Osborne: station.
Maria Grayson: Okay, but what we have to think
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: about now is that is is it still a special remote control? But I mean it isn't it hasn't got any innovative technology, we aren't gonna apply any uh innovated innovative te technology anyway, I think.
Concepcion Clark: Mm-hmm.
Maria Grayson: I don't I don't see any possibility to do so, because it would wouldn't fit our
Concepcion Clark: But it's
Maria Grayson: defi
Concepcion Clark: original.
Maria Grayson: design philosophy. But
Sonia Osborne: No,
Maria Grayson: what
Sonia Osborne: that's
Maria Grayson: w is there
Sonia Osborne: true.
Maria Grayson: some extra maybe I think maybe the kinetic thing is something. Instead of the rechargeable the rechargeable thing was something to um know, so y so people wouldn't
Sonia Osborne: M
Maria Grayson: have
Sonia Osborne: bu
Maria Grayson: to worry about their batteries anymore. Maybe we if we put the kinetic
Maryann Thomas: But
Maria Grayson: thing
Maryann Thomas: but
Maria Grayson: in
Maryann Thomas: sometimes
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: you put
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: a
Maria Grayson: you leave the p yeah, I know, but still I they will think about that. I mean if
Maryann Thomas: Kinetics
Maria Grayson: you u
Maryann Thomas: aren't uh nowadays only used in watches and
Maria Grayson: The
Maryann Thomas: that's
Maria Grayson: uh
Maryann Thomas: because
Maria Grayson: it's made
Maryann Thomas: you're always
Maria Grayson: for
Maryann Thomas: walking.
Maria Grayson: s people well, the they don't if it was uh uh r useless technology, they wouldn't put it uh as a possibility.
Maryann Thomas: Uh solar cells
Maria Grayson: And i
Maryann Thomas: are
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: useless.
Maria Grayson: it
Sonia Osborne: Or the hand
Maria Grayson: th th
Sonia Osborne: dynamo
Maria Grayson: the the target
Sonia Osborne: dynamo
Maria Grayson: the target uh group are people who zap regularly and throw with their remote control as a matter of speaking.
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: Because I think it when when there w was a remote control where it was useful to have a kinetic uh uh power source, then it would be this one. Because it's one it gets thrown around thrown around a lot and it gets used a lot Hey that maybe that's
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: cool
Sonia Osborne: but but
Maria Grayson: that's a cool thing
Sonia Osborne: if
Maria Grayson: about
Sonia Osborne: we ca
Maria Grayson: it, you know. You don't use batteries. I've never seen it before in a remote control.
Sonia Osborne: I don't
Concepcion Clark: But
Sonia Osborne: know
Concepcion Clark: then
Sonia Osborne: if
Concepcion Clark: we could make a docking station.
Sonia Osborne: Five minutes.
Maria Grayson: No, we we we can't make a docking station anyway.
Sonia Osborne: That's not true.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, we can als or uh also m we we can make
Sonia Osborne: We can
Maria Grayson: one
Sonia Osborne: make
Concepcion Clark: Wow,
Sonia Osborne: a docking
Concepcion Clark: w
Sonia Osborne: station
Concepcion Clark: why
Maria Grayson: we
Sonia Osborne: for
Maria Grayson: can
Concepcion Clark: no
Sonia Osborne: two
Maria Grayson: still
Concepcion Clark: li
Sonia Osborne: thirty.
Maria Grayson: make
Concepcion Clark: Look at now, we got two
Sonia Osborne: Two
Maryann Thomas: Fo
Sonia Osborne: thirty.
Concepcion Clark: two thirty left.
Sonia Osborne: We
Maryann Thomas: for
Sonia Osborne: can
Concepcion Clark: Ca
Sonia Osborne: make
Concepcion Clark: can't
Maryann Thomas: a docking
Sonia Osborne: a docking
Concepcion Clark: we
Maryann Thomas: station.
Concepcion Clark: make
Sonia Osborne: station.
Concepcion Clark: a docking station
Sonia Osborne: Sure.
Concepcion Clark: of that?
Maryann Thomas: With a cable, with uh buttons on it,
Sonia Osborne: Sure.
Maryann Thomas: with retrieval uh device
Concepcion Clark: I don't
Maryann Thomas: in
Concepcion Clark: know.
Maryann Thomas: it.
Sonia Osborne: The power device is is i i is very cheap. That's just a regular uh power cable and
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: whatever.
Maria Grayson: but be serious, then uh the
Maryann Thomas: Wi
Maria Grayson: docking station will be
Concepcion Clark: Well, we
Maria Grayson: a
Maryann Thomas: with
Maria Grayson: fifth
Concepcion Clark: we
Maryann Thomas: a
Concepcion Clark: uh
Maryann Thomas: button
Maria Grayson: of the price
Maryann Thomas: to
Maria Grayson: of the remote control.
Sonia Osborne: So.
Maryann Thomas: wi with a button to retrieve it, so it will beep. Uh,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maryann Thomas: so it's uh wireless
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but we uh
Maryann Thomas: technology.
Maria Grayson: we don't inc we haven't looked at the these costs of the speaker and other stuff. I don't think it's realistic for you to do so.
Sonia Osborne: Well then it's a useless project.
Maryann Thomas: Look at the case,
Maria Grayson: Oh, because
Maryann Thomas: the case
Maria Grayson: we
Maryann Thomas: the case of of uh of
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: uh
Concepcion Clark: then we don't have
Maria Grayson: We well
Concepcion Clark: any
Maria Grayson: look
Concepcion Clark: innovation
Maria Grayson: at all the special
Concepcion Clark: things.
Maria Grayson: stuff we have. Colour a the colours are special, the form is special. It th this is whole concept. Uh
Sonia Osborne: Can't
Maria Grayson: maybe
Sonia Osborne: we
Maria Grayson: it
Sonia Osborne: uh
Maria Grayson: with the kinetic thing, I think we could do uh do a compromise uh with the kim
Sonia Osborne: Can't
Maria Grayson: kinetic
Sonia Osborne: we say fifteen
Maria Grayson: thing.
Sonia Osborne: Euros? No, sta yeah
Maria Grayson: Uh, no.
Sonia Osborne: I mean
Maryann Thomas: No, then we have to sell it for thirty Euros.
Sonia Osborne: No.
Concepcion Clark: No, we
Maryann Thomas: It's
Concepcion Clark: only
Maryann Thomas: the
Concepcion Clark: make less profit of it.
Sonia Osborne: You can sell for twenty seven and a half. Then you make as much profit as
Concepcion Clark: No.
Sonia Osborne: you would with twelve and a half production costs.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, I don my suggestion is to just forget about the whole docking station thing and make it uh like a Uh uh I I I I still fee I also feel this concept of making it kinetic, because of the you know, it g
Sonia Osborne: I
Maria Grayson: it
Sonia Osborne: don't
Maria Grayson: gives
Sonia Osborne: think
Maria Grayson: something
Maryann Thomas: Maybe we
Maria Grayson: dynamic
Maryann Thomas: can uh can
Maria Grayson: to the
Maryann Thomas: do
Maria Grayson: remote
Maryann Thomas: it both.
Maria Grayson: control.
Maryann Thomas: Maybe we can do it both uh in the in the in the remote. Battery and kinetic.
Sonia Osborne: No.
Maria Grayson: No, that wouldn't n no.
Sonia Osborne: Thirteen twenty.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, and it is also not a good it's not you
Sonia Osborne: And
Maria Grayson: have
Sonia Osborne: I think
Maria Grayson: to really
Sonia Osborne: only
Maria Grayson: do it only kinetic, you don't want it to think about batteries anymore.
Maryann Thomas: Yes, but
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maryann Thomas: when
Sonia Osborne: but only
Maryann Thomas: it's then
Sonia Osborne: kinetic,
Maryann Thomas: when it
Sonia Osborne: then you
Maria Grayson: No
Maryann Thomas: then you
Sonia Osborne: gotta
Maria Grayson: no.
Maryann Thomas: have to shake it uh and all when it's when it's empty.
Maria Grayson: Yeah,
Sonia Osborne: You you gotta
Maria Grayson: it's
Sonia Osborne: throw
Maria Grayson: great.
Sonia Osborne: uh throw it through the room like twenty times an hour,
Maria Grayson: No
Sonia Osborne: really.
Maria Grayson: no no. No no, this is very sophisticated technology technology. When you
Maryann Thomas: You
Maria Grayson: use
Maryann Thomas: asked
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: for
Maria Grayson: your
Maryann Thomas: three
Maria Grayson: remote
Maryann Thomas: d
Maria Grayson: like once a day, or maybe even less i i
Maryann Thomas: No,
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: that's n that's not true. Uh,
Sonia Osborne: No.
Maryann Thomas: a watch is uh kinetic
Maria Grayson: It
Maryann Thomas: because you walk
Maria Grayson: We
Maryann Thomas: all
Maria Grayson: can
Maryann Thomas: the time.
Maria Grayson: make it yeah no. Becau be but a remote control gets why do they state that this technology
Maryann Thomas: Yes,
Maria Grayson: can be
Maryann Thomas: solar
Maria Grayson: used if
Maryann Thomas: cells
Maria Grayson: it
Maryann Thomas: are also stated.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, m but a w uh uh n uh a calculator also works on r on
Maryann Thomas: Why
Maria Grayson: solar
Maryann Thomas: don't
Maria Grayson: cells.
Maryann Thomas: we use solar cells then?
Maria Grayson: Because I think the d whole dynamic part, do you know, appeals to Sonia Osborne qui uh thinking of our design philosophy, you know, with the rubber parts and uh sturdiness of the thing, and y when you move it around a lot, then people find the idea funny that when I move my
Maryann Thomas: That's
Maria Grayson: remote
Maryann Thomas: true.
Maria Grayson: control around
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: and
Sonia Osborne: it's funny for a week. I guess something like that, where you have to move it around very frequently, is demotivating.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, but you don't have to. Trust Sonia Osborne. The idea of this technology is that you don't think about it, it just happens.
Sonia Osborne: No, I I don't move my uh my
Maria Grayson: Okay,
Maryann Thomas: Oui.
Sonia Osborne: remote
Maria Grayson: then we
Sonia Osborne: control
Maria Grayson: d Okay,
Sonia Osborne: very
Maria Grayson: well
Sonia Osborne: much,
Maria Grayson: y we don't
Sonia Osborne: seriously.
Maria Grayson: have to do it, but what that would just have a lack of key features, you know. You m have to put something on your box. You have to make people buy it and uh We can really can do the docking thing, uh it's not yeah, uh we can do it, but it's would be a
Maryann Thomas: You
Maria Grayson: easy
Maryann Thomas: can
Maria Grayson: way
Maryann Thomas: do
Maria Grayson: out.
Maryann Thomas: it for fifty cents.
Sonia Osborne: Well, we've got more than fifty Cents.
Maryann Thomas: The c
Maria Grayson: Okay, but
Maryann Thomas: The
Maria Grayson: we
Maryann Thomas: case
Maria Grayson: have to grou
Maryann Thomas: the
Maria Grayson: to
Maryann Thomas: case
Maria Grayson: agree upon
Maryann Thomas: alone
Maria Grayson: something,
Maryann Thomas: is is
Maria Grayson: because
Maryann Thomas: is
Maria Grayson: uh
Maryann Thomas: uh
Maria Grayson: we only have a minute left or so.
Maryann Thomas: the case alone for uh remote control is at least one Euro. Then we have one Euro thirty for the whole
Maria Grayson: No
Maryann Thomas: docking
Maria Grayson: no,
Maryann Thomas: station.
Maria Grayson: it's not possible. Okay, w b we can s we can leave it on be well then then th it's this is then then our concept is ready.
Concepcion Clark: Cheap remote control.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, we make some extra profit of
Sonia Osborne: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: it.
Sonia Osborne: No, we won't, but that's
Maryann Thomas: But now
Sonia Osborne: um something else. No, this
Concepcion Clark: It
Sonia Osborne: not
Concepcion Clark: w it
Sonia Osborne: gonna
Concepcion Clark: won't
Sonia Osborne: sell.
Concepcion Clark: tell, but
Maria Grayson: Huh,
Sonia Osborne: No.
Maria Grayson: any ideas?
Sonia Osborne: Of course not.
Concepcion Clark: No, uh, n no
Maryann Thomas: Great. It's great.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, we
Maryann Thomas: Our
Concepcion Clark: just
Maryann Thomas: remote
Concepcion Clark: have
Maryann Thomas: control.
Concepcion Clark: to go all what we did today again. You have to do it over.
Sonia Osborne: We come back tomorrow, okay?
Concepcion Clark: Yeah.
Maria Grayson: No
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Maria Grayson: no uh there's
Concepcion Clark: the
Maria Grayson: still there's still
Maryann Thomas: Seventy
Maria Grayson: someth concept
Maryann Thomas: Euros.
Maria Grayson: and something special left. I mean we're gonna it's gonna excel in
Concepcion Clark: No,
Maria Grayson: in
Concepcion Clark: but
Maria Grayson: on in
Concepcion Clark: no.
Maria Grayson: the the range in the field of design and and uh looks and feel. That's what it's makes it special. Yeah, and I would li I would have liked a kinetic part as well, to give it some just to give it some extra special feature, and uh I know it will work, but uh it's it's an They're they're not putting technologies on this, but if it if it was impossible to to make it happen.
Maryann Thomas: Why not a hand dynamo then?
Maria Grayson: Okay, well we leave it like this. Then it's c
Concepcion Clark: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: then we're yeah.
Concepcion Clark: yeah.
Sonia Osborne: We can't do anything else. Warning, finish meeting now.
Maryann Thomas: We're done.
Maria Grayson: Okay,
Maryann Thomas: Is this it?
Maria Grayson: project e uh well,
Sonia Osborne: Yeah,
Maria Grayson: we were gonna
Sonia Osborne: sure.
Maria Grayson: what look take
Maryann Thomas: Okay.
Maria Grayson: a look at the last sheet.
Sonia Osborne: No, we can't.
Maria Grayson: Yeah, we have to Yeah, it's
Concepcion Clark: No.
Sonia Osborne: Yes, yes.
Maryann Thomas: Yes.
Sonia Osborne: Celebration. I don't see why, but
Maryann Thomas: Where's the champagne?
Sonia Osborne: I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire, to be honest.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah?
Maryann Thomas: I don't uh hear a bell.
Sonia Osborne: No, not yet. Alright,
Concepcion Clark: We
Sonia Osborne: I'll
Concepcion Clark: can
Sonia Osborne: see
Concepcion Clark: do
Sonia Osborne: you
Concepcion Clark: it
Sonia Osborne: guys
Concepcion Clark: here
Sonia Osborne: in
Concepcion Clark: then.
Sonia Osborne: a minute.
Maryann Thomas: Bye.
Sonia Osborne: I
Concepcion Clark: Can
Sonia Osborne: don't
Concepcion Clark: we
Sonia Osborne: think
Concepcion Clark: can't
Sonia Osborne: so.
Concepcion Clark: we do it here?
Sonia Osborne: I don't know. I don't I don't think so.
Maryann Thomas: Uh-huh. Just fill that one in.
Concepcion Clark: Yeah, we're doing now. But it's. Oh, okay.
Maria Grayson: Uh, I
Concepcion Clark: Nice.
Maria Grayson: don't know. | Maria Grayson opened the meeting. Concepcion Clark and industrial designer presented the prototype design. The remote has buttons for power, mute, teletext, volume and channel up/down, and nine numbered channel buttons. The group discussed what buttons would be needed to enter channels 10 and above. They discussed adapting the docking station so it could be used with other products but did not make a decision. The remote is plastic with different coloured rubber strips on the sides and rubber buttons. Sonia Osborne led the product evaluation. The group were generally satisfied with the design but did not think the remote was technologically innovative. The overall score was 2.6. The group worked out the manufacturing costs. The group had problems figuring out the cost of the docking station and buttons, and did not know which kind of chip to use. They discussed using kinetic energy to make the remote more technologically innovative but decided against it. They eventually decided that they could not afford a docking station. They did not have time to evaluate the project process before the end of the meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Heather Quarles: Uh fourth meeting.
Rose Ivy: We have to do what?
Heather Quarles: Some extra deciding.
Kristen Blair: W what? Alri
Rose Ivy: Oh.
Kristen Blair: alright.
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: We'll see.
Heather Quarles: I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting. Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Then um I guess that's your bit?
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: I I didn't s see anything about it, so I already uh thought you uh you were to do that. So the you're uh. I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this
Rose Ivy: Mm.
Heather Quarles: uh design.
Kristen Blair: Yeah, that's important too. Yeah.
Heather Quarles: And then we'll
Rose Ivy: Bit late.
Heather Quarles: evaluate, after after we have redesigned it. Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close.
Kristen Blair: Alright.
Heather Quarles: Well the finance uh we'll do later, so um firstly uh I'll show you the notes. I don't think it's very interesting.
Rose Ivy: I think it is.
Heather Quarles: Oh nei. Uh no. Alright. This is copy paste. So
Kristen Blair: From Jill Budd of course, yeah.
Heather Quarles: Of course. You had
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: some
Kristen Blair: from us
Heather Quarles: very
Kristen Blair: all, yeah,
Heather Quarles: strange
Kristen Blair: from
Heather Quarles: layout.
Kristen Blair: all of us. Yeah. It's a nice chorus, yeah.
Heather Quarles: Well um We ge we went through the agenda, and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again.
Kristen Blair: Repeat it yeah.
Heather Quarles: So uh
Kristen Blair: Alright.
Heather Quarles: This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So
Jill Budd: Okay.
Heather Quarles: we still know that. And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us.
Kristen Blair: Alright, we both uh will?
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Or one of us will?
Rose Ivy: Alright.
Kristen Blair: Uh
Rose Ivy: No you go and I'll uh
Kristen Blair: Alright. If I
Rose Ivy: supplement
Kristen Blair: make mistakes
Rose Ivy: you.
Kristen Blair: uh you'll uh
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Correct.
Kristen Blair: Right. Uh well this is our design. Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um which is made of hard plastic, the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours, and
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns
Heather Quarles: Mm-hmm.
Kristen Blair: and pictures and everything. But basically, different colours, bright colours not black, too dark. Fancy colours. Um then we have uh the lower part of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually, because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view, that only this part is the front, and the rest of it, the under uh the under side uh of it, yeah, the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium, and has the titanium colour of course, the look. Um
Heather Quarles: Mm.
Kristen Blair: then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner, uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back, part of the titanium uh
Rose Ivy: Yeah, it's a double R_,
Kristen Blair: titanium
Rose Ivy: but
Kristen Blair: part. Yeah?
Rose Ivy: It's a double R_.
Kristen Blair: It's a double R_. Yeah the
Rose Ivy: But
Kristen Blair: logo Uh uh
Rose Ivy: it's
Heather Quarles: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: very difficult
Heather Quarles: alright.
Kristen Blair: it's
Rose Ivy: to to
Kristen Blair: difficult
Rose Ivy: draw
Kristen Blair: to draw
Rose Ivy: that in
Kristen Blair: so small, but
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: it's our double R_ uh
Heather Quarles: Okay.
Kristen Blair: logo is in there.
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round I think oval will be better for
Rose Ivy: Oval
Kristen Blair: the
Rose Ivy: yeah.
Kristen Blair: for the d for the different
Heather Quarles: Alright.
Kristen Blair: uh channel buttons. So uh oval, n those are here. And then we have the m The m
Rose Ivy: Channel up and volume?
Kristen Blair: Yeah the the con the the the, yeah, the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes, which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: of
Heather Quarles: Mm-hmm.
Kristen Blair: the of the operators, of the channel and uh volume um changers. And then we've here the Menu button and the
Heather Quarles: Alright.
Rose Ivy: Menu for
Kristen Blair: And
Rose Ivy: the
Kristen Blair: the video
Rose Ivy: L_C_D_
Kristen Blair: button.
Rose Ivy: screen.
Kristen Blair: The
Jill Budd: Mm right.
Heather Quarles: So
Kristen Blair: Yeah. And of course this low part, this is the L_C_D_ screen.
Heather Quarles: 'Kay.
Kristen Blair: Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: if you want.
Rose Ivy: Well, at
Heather Quarles: if
Rose Ivy: the back
Heather Quarles: I look at it, the side the side view
Kristen Blair: Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: talk and then you can add
Heather Quarles: Oh
Kristen Blair: suggestions.
Heather Quarles: yeah alright.
Kristen Blair: Maybe I I don't want to
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick. Um okay I've had everything I guess on
Rose Ivy: No
Kristen Blair: the
Rose Ivy: the
Kristen Blair: front?
Rose Ivy: back. the
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Rose Ivy: logo
Kristen Blair: the back. Yeah.
Rose Ivy: and our uh l uh
Kristen Blair: We thought about Yeah, uh the back is of course totally titanium. And we thought about the logo big in the middle.
Heather Quarles: Mm-hmm.
Kristen Blair: Just so again the double R_. We have
Jill Budd: Mm-hmm.
Kristen Blair: then the logo on front and on the back. Maybe that's
Heather Quarles: Okay.
Kristen Blair: too much but
Rose Ivy: No
Kristen Blair: you
Rose Ivy: I don't
Kristen Blair: have to
Rose Ivy: think
Kristen Blair: say uh say that if you think that way. And
Rose Ivy: And the
Kristen Blair: the company slogan, we thought in a kind of arc
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: shape
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: uh above the logo. That's basically what we were thinking about, and
Heather Quarles: Okay.
Rose Ivy: And about
Heather Quarles: W
Rose Ivy: the side view um This the front won't be as thick, but
Heather Quarles: Well I
Rose Ivy: again
Heather Quarles: see, but
Rose Ivy: th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to
Kristen Blair: Oh and uh
Rose Ivy: to
Kristen Blair: before
Rose Ivy: really
Kristen Blair: I forget.
Rose Ivy: uh
Heather Quarles: Well.
Kristen Blair: Yeah the the voice,
Heather Quarles: Yeah
Kristen Blair: of course,
Heather Quarles: I see
Kristen Blair: the voice
Heather Quarles: it.
Kristen Blair: recorder is uh at the bottom.
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Kristen Blair: And you can record it uh using, yeah, the the
Heather Quarles: When I
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: look
Kristen Blair: back
Heather Quarles: at
Kristen Blair: of
Rose Ivy: Well,
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: uh
Rose Ivy: it
Kristen Blair: f
Rose Ivy: won't
Heather Quarles: when
Rose Ivy: be visible.
Heather Quarles: I look at
Kristen Blair: w
Heather Quarles: this
Kristen Blair: device.
Heather Quarles: side view,
Rose Ivy: Mm?
Heather Quarles: I think w when I have that in my hand, it's terrible. If
Kristen Blair: Why?
Heather Quarles: if you look if if this this is thick, and this is thin, th th then
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: it that
Kristen Blair: it fits
Heather Quarles: it lies over your hands.
Kristen Blair: uh it
Heather Quarles: But
Kristen Blair: it it it fits the hand, mean
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: uh the the
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: the
Jill Budd: I
Kristen Blair: the
Jill Budd: agree.
Heather Quarles: what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle, so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker, so
Rose Ivy: If
Heather Quarles: th then
Rose Ivy: y
Heather Quarles: it falls over your hands.
Rose Ivy: If you handle a remote, you you usually don't have your hand straight
Kristen Blair: In
Rose Ivy: like
Kristen Blair: the middle
Rose Ivy: this. You
Kristen Blair: in the
Rose Ivy: you have it a bit
Jill Budd: It depends
Rose Ivy: uh
Jill Budd: on the size.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: If it's kinda small, this is is great. But if it's it's larger, then you want to grab it.
Heather Quarles: And how
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: large is it?
Jill Budd: Yeah, that's the question.
Kristen Blair: That's the question. Uh well Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do? This
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: was
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: Mike's prototype, and y you seemed to agreed on it. But now
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: you
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: have
Heather Quarles: sides
Kristen Blair: a totally
Heather Quarles: I
Kristen Blair: different.
Heather Quarles: haven't seen yet, uh?
Rose Ivy: Well,
Kristen Blair: The size? Yeah
Rose Ivy: they
Kristen Blair: well
Rose Ivy: lay there
Kristen Blair: the size
Heather Quarles: They the
Rose Ivy: all
Kristen Blair: doesn't
Heather Quarles: the
Rose Ivy: the time.
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: really
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: matter
Heather Quarles: the side
Kristen Blair: w I mean
Heather Quarles: view,
Kristen Blair: Side? Uh
Heather Quarles: we
Kristen Blair: oh
Heather Quarles: didn't
Kristen Blair: the side?
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: W we we he drew the s the
Rose Ivy: Yeah
Kristen Blair: side,
Rose Ivy: yeah.
Kristen Blair: but you d you weren't paying attention as usual. Well any case, we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea.
Jill Budd: Yeah, I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this, and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle,
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Jill Budd: your hand might be over it.
Kristen Blair: But you you hold it like this.
Rose Ivy: Yeah you
Kristen Blair: You're not holding it like this
Rose Ivy: you don't
Kristen Blair: or something.
Rose Ivy: you don't grab it, you you
Kristen Blair: You, yeah, y How do you call it? Yeah. Well y y y you don't have it like this. You
Heather Quarles: No
Kristen Blair: have
Heather Quarles: no
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: no.
Kristen Blair: more like this. using buttons this way, or
Jill Budd: Like
Kristen Blair: if you're
Jill Budd: you're
Kristen Blair: right-handed,
Jill Budd: holding your telephone.
Kristen Blair: this
Heather Quarles: Yep.
Kristen Blair: way.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: So you Yeah.
Jill Budd: Because
Kristen Blair: So
Jill Budd: if you have a screen on it, you wanna look at your screen.
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Rose Ivy: That
Kristen Blair: well
Rose Ivy: way, it it falls into your hand. I think.
Heather Quarles: Okay.
Jill Budd: Yeah, I
Kristen Blair: And
Jill Budd: agree
Kristen Blair: maybe
Jill Budd: on
Kristen Blair: you
Jill Budd: this.
Kristen Blair: can you can grab it a bit higher, so Well
Jill Budd: No, I don't think so. That's not uh
Rose Ivy: No but but
Kristen Blair: Well
Jill Budd: the
Kristen Blair: the
Jill Budd: point
Kristen Blair: the Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side, but
Rose Ivy: Well f for as far as I can see, three of us agree and
Heather Quarles: Yeah
Rose Ivy: only
Heather Quarles: well
Rose Ivy: Nils
Heather Quarles: uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it.
Rose Ivy: But you're Heather Quarles, you can make the hard decisions.
Heather Quarles: Yes. So
Kristen Blair: If
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: necessary.
Heather Quarles: I c
Kristen Blair: But
Heather Quarles: I c
Kristen Blair: uh
Heather Quarles: Well,
Kristen Blair: are d
Heather Quarles: we'll
Kristen Blair: Can you
Heather Quarles: we
Kristen Blair: live
Heather Quarles: we'll
Kristen Blair: with
Heather Quarles: do
Kristen Blair: it?
Heather Quarles: it
Kristen Blair: Uh
Heather Quarles: like this.
Rose Ivy: Yeah?
Heather Quarles: Alright,
Kristen Blair: Y
Heather Quarles: if you think that that's the
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: way
Kristen Blair: y y
Heather Quarles: it
Kristen Blair: y
Heather Quarles: should
Kristen Blair: y you said it was totally uh unusable.
Heather Quarles: No
Kristen Blair: But do you
Heather Quarles: No, when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick But
Kristen Blair: But d you don't think this
Heather Quarles: In
Kristen Blair: is
Heather Quarles: the market
Kristen Blair: completely unusable
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: I guess. I think.
Heather Quarles: No not totally.
Kristen Blair: Not totally, well
Heather Quarles: For Jill Budd, I I wouldn't buy it. Let's
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Heather Quarles: say it
Kristen Blair: but
Heather Quarles: like
Kristen Blair: of course
Heather Quarles: that.
Kristen Blair: y you are also human. We have to
Heather Quarles: No
Kristen Blair: take uh every everyone into
Jill Budd: And you might
Kristen Blair: account.
Jill Budd: be
Kristen Blair: So
Jill Budd: uh You might be target customer.
Kristen Blair: Yeah. Well
Heather Quarles: Yes
Kristen Blair: uh who who
Rose Ivy: Mm.
Heather Quarles: but
Kristen Blair: else thinks like you? We don't know. Maybe
Heather Quarles: Yeah, we
Kristen Blair: a
Heather Quarles: don't
Kristen Blair: thousand
Heather Quarles: know, but
Kristen Blair: people,
Heather Quarles: that's
Kristen Blair: or
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: a million people.
Heather Quarles: that's that's that's more market research. So let it be like this at uh
Kristen Blair: Let
Heather Quarles: at this
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: moment.
Kristen Blair: be. Alright.
Heather Quarles: Okay?
Kristen Blair: So that's that. Uh any other suggestions?
Heather Quarles: No, I think it's great.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: But what about the redesigning?
Heather Quarles: Comes to that later.
Rose Ivy: Okay.
Heather Quarles: Um you. Uh c You can uh Walter.
Kristen Blair: You're very personal
Heather Quarles: You can do the
Kristen Blair: again.
Heather Quarles: evaluation uh criteria on this?
Jill Budd: Alright. Great.
Heather Quarles: That's more useful than just speaking.
Jill Budd: Well, this is just a short intro. I'm
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Jill Budd: going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria. So I made a I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and
Heather Quarles: Mm-hmm.
Jill Budd: trends. And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well, I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm.
Heather Quarles: 'Kay.
Jill Budd: Well
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Jill Budd: I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation, so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is, uh is the device good-looking? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think?
Kristen Blair: Well d we designed it, so of course we are very
Rose Ivy: Mm.
Heather Quarles: Yeah,
Jill Budd: Yeah
Heather Quarles: we're we're not quite uh objective about
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Jill Budd: No,
Heather Quarles: this.
Rose Ivy: Well
Jill Budd: I know, but
Rose Ivy: we designed it to be good-looking.
Jill Budd: I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire.
Kristen Blair: So and
Heather Quarles: To
Kristen Blair: we
Heather Quarles: the customers?
Kristen Blair: ha we have answer now?
Heather Quarles: To
Jill Budd: Yeah
Heather Quarles: potential
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: customers who have to take this
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: questionnaire?
Jill Budd: but I can't
Heather Quarles: Nei.
Jill Budd: can
Heather Quarles: Oh no.
Jill Budd: s
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Heather Quarles: I know, I know, I know. But um Well we can go, uh because of the time, uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking? Well we think so.
Kristen Blair: I
Heather Quarles: Uh
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: Yeah, I
Rose Ivy: We
Kristen Blair: think
Rose Ivy: designed
Jill Budd: but
Kristen Blair: it
Rose Ivy: it
Jill Budd: uh,
Rose Ivy: to
Jill Budd: you
Rose Ivy: be
Jill Budd: know
Rose Ivy: good-looking,
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: so
Jill Budd: We dis we di we designed it to be perfect. So But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we we
Heather Quarles: Well,
Jill Budd: know where we stand.
Heather Quarles: one.
Jill Budd: 'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten.
Heather Quarles: Well so it's point four.
Jill Budd: Right, so
Heather Quarles: Easy
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: to find
Kristen Blair: l well
Heather Quarles: t
Kristen Blair: let's start with the beginning, just one
Jill Budd: Right.
Kristen Blair: by one.
Jill Budd: Uh is it good-looking?
Kristen Blair: Well, I guess uh I think uh
Heather Quarles: Two.
Kristen Blair: it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course, uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything. That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device
Jill Budd: The titanium
Kristen Blair: that
Jill Budd: might be uh f
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Jill Budd: for
Kristen Blair: that's
Jill Budd: older people.
Kristen Blair: that's uh for older people, it's it's more that classical
Jill Budd: It you put
Kristen Blair: look.
Jill Budd: uh
Kristen Blair: So
Jill Budd: put a black front on it or something.
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Kristen Blair: Uh no. I think Yeah they like black of course, but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also Uh I think it's also good for them, so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I
Jill Budd: Right.
Kristen Blair: think it's very good-looking and not only for youth uh young people.
Rose Ivy: I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long, because
Jill Budd: Right.
Rose Ivy: I don't know
Heather Quarles: No.
Rose Ivy: how how many points there
Heather Quarles: I
Rose Ivy: are
Heather Quarles: totally
Rose Ivy: but
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: uh
Heather Quarles: agree.
Kristen Blair: the fourteen
Heather Quarles: We
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: Right,
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Jill Budd: a number
Heather Quarles: we have
Jill Budd: please.
Heather Quarles: to get get on,
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: go
Kristen Blair: Is
Heather Quarles: through
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: this.
Kristen Blair: easy to t change channels? Yeah well I think so.
Jill Budd: So the last one is seven. Easy
Rose Ivy: Um,
Jill Budd: to change channels?
Heather Quarles: No,
Rose Ivy: no
Heather Quarles: not
Rose Ivy: it's
Heather Quarles: false.
Rose Ivy: uh
Heather Quarles: It's one.
Jill Budd: Oh, sorry. Yeah, right.
Heather Quarles: Well uh two?
Jill Budd: Change channels?
Heather Quarles: Y Well we have to go through it.
Kristen Blair: I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made. Uh
Jill Budd: Right.
Kristen Blair: So I Yeah. You How can you make it any easier?
Jill Budd: The power, channel and volume
Rose Ivy: With
Jill Budd: buttons
Rose Ivy: two
Jill Budd: are easy
Rose Ivy: huge
Jill Budd: accessible?
Rose Ivy: buttons.
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: Yep.
Kristen Blair: huge is a Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Two.
Jill Budd: Two? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it?
Heather Quarles: Well, no.
Kristen Blair: D
Heather Quarles: We didn't
Kristen Blair: we
Heather Quarles: implement
Kristen Blair: d we don't
Heather Quarles: anything about that.
Kristen Blair: we don't have
Rose Ivy: Well
Kristen Blair: uh
Rose Ivy: it's
Kristen Blair: that
Rose Ivy: easier
Kristen Blair: s
Rose Ivy: to find than a a normal black one or something, because of the colour. But
Heather Quarles: Well six
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: then.
Jill Budd: Six? Right.
Kristen Blair: Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost
Heather Quarles: Are
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: or so,
Heather Quarles: functions
Kristen Blair: but um um
Heather Quarles: easy to learn? Well w I we do want we have a l f
Rose Ivy: We have so few
Heather Quarles: f
Rose Ivy: functions,
Heather Quarles: less
Rose Ivy: so
Heather Quarles: of
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: an
Jill Budd: Yeah, I agree.
Heather Quarles: And the device R_S_I_ sensitive?
Rose Ivy: Well, I should I
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: think two, because the voice recorder
Heather Quarles: Ah.
Rose Ivy: is n not
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: self learning.
Kristen Blair: Yeah. Yeah.
Jill Budd: Alright.
Kristen Blair: Mm?
Jill Budd: Two?
Heather Quarles: Yeah, but just do some We
Jill Budd: Yeah
Heather Quarles: we
Kristen Blair: Are we take
Heather Quarles: I th
Kristen Blair: too much
Heather Quarles: I th
Kristen Blair: time?
Heather Quarles: I think this is too time consuming. Uh not
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: not towards
Jill Budd: I agree.
Heather Quarles: you,
Jill Budd: No.
Heather Quarles: but towards this all. Th
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: this is
Jill Budd: Right,
Heather Quarles: We you have
Jill Budd: R_
Heather Quarles: to
Jill Budd: R_S_I_
Heather Quarles: put
Jill Budd: sensitive?
Heather Quarles: it to the customers.
Jill Budd: R_S_I_ sensitive?
Heather Quarles: Uh well well a bit, so four.
Jill Budd: Four. Um
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Kristen Blair: Yeah, very much. One.
Heather Quarles: One. And features included also one. And One.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking. Uh we still think so.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Device fancy
Kristen Blair: And I
Heather Quarles: feeling.
Kristen Blair: think fancy-feeling
Heather Quarles: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: too, because of the
Heather Quarles: cool
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: titanium
Heather Quarles: man.
Kristen Blair: back. Yeah.
Jill Budd: Right.
Heather Quarles: Are there enough technology? Yeah
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: well also we have two.
Jill Budd: Yeah, that's great.
Rose Ivy: The
Heather Quarles: to use? Yes we have not many buttons.
Kristen Blair: So well maybe two
Jill Budd: Well,
Kristen Blair: because
Rose Ivy: Two
Heather Quarles: Two,
Kristen Blair: of the voice
Jill Budd: with
Heather Quarles: three.
Kristen Blair: recorder.
Rose Ivy: two.
Jill Budd: the uh Three.
Rose Ivy: T
Heather Quarles: Are
Kristen Blair: F
Heather Quarles: the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented? Well in our covers,
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: in our fronts. So
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: yes, one.
Kristen Blair: One or two.
Heather Quarles: Is
Rose Ivy: One
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: the material
Rose Ivy: or two, another
Jill Budd: Nah
Heather Quarles: attractive?
Rose Ivy: two.
Jill Budd: f four I think.
Kristen Blair: Four?
Jill Budd: If you look at this
Kristen Blair: Well, it doesn't really resemble any fruit, uh that's true.
Jill Budd: No.
Kristen Blair: But but we have the the the the the
Heather Quarles: Oh okay.
Kristen Blair: sparkly fruity
Rose Ivy: Well
Kristen Blair: colours
Rose Ivy: three.
Kristen Blair: of course.
Jill Budd: Three,
Heather Quarles: Okay.
Jill Budd: alright.
Kristen Blair: And you can also have front with uh with
Jill Budd: Yeah, that's true.
Heather Quarles: Is
Kristen Blair: fruit
Heather Quarles: the material
Jill Budd: But
Kristen Blair: on
Rose Ivy: Mm.
Heather Quarles: attractive? Well
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: the titanium
Kristen Blair: it.
Heather Quarles: is strong, and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft. So I would say at least two.
Jill Budd: Right.
Heather Quarles: Okay. Well Yeah.
Rose Ivy: This is the last meeting?
Heather Quarles: Yes, but we
Jill Budd: The
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: average
Heather Quarles: we have to design
Jill Budd: will uh
Heather Quarles: much
Jill Budd: come later.
Heather Quarles: more, because there was some irritating account manager coming to Jill Budd.
Kristen Blair: I
Heather Quarles: Um
Kristen Blair: knew things uh were going uh
Heather Quarles: Oh.
Kristen Blair: too smoothly. There had
Heather Quarles: Uh
Kristen Blair: to be some kind of trouble
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: along
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Kristen Blair: the way.
Heather Quarles: Well, look at the costs at this point.
Kristen Blair: My god.
Heather Quarles: I had to fit it in.
Jill Budd: It has to go to twelve, right?
Heather Quarles: I twelve and a half.
Jill Budd: Twelve and a half.
Heather Quarles: So Well what costs a lot? The sample spea costs four.
Kristen Blair: The what? The
Heather Quarles: The sample speaker,
Jill Budd: Out.
Heather Quarles: the s sensor.
Jill Budd: That's easy. Kick it out.
Heather Quarles: Kick it out.
Rose Ivy: The what?
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: We have to go to twelve and a
Jill Budd: The
Heather Quarles: half.
Jill Budd: speaker.
Heather Quarles: The speaker costs
Rose Ivy: Oh.
Heather Quarles: far, by far the most.
Kristen Blair: Yeah w
Jill Budd: That's some wrong
Kristen Blair: tha that's
Jill Budd: info,
Kristen Blair: uh
Jill Budd: man.
Kristen Blair: that's a bit an optional
Heather Quarles: It
Kristen Blair: option.
Heather Quarles: it isn't worth it.
Kristen Blair: No.
Jill Budd: No.
Kristen Blair: No, d
Heather Quarles: We
Kristen Blair: th
Heather Quarles: could make
Kristen Blair: No.
Heather Quarles: two
Jill Budd: It's
Heather Quarles: different
Jill Budd: uh
Heather Quarles: versions, one with and one without. But for
Jill Budd: It's
Heather Quarles: this
Jill Budd: just extra. Kick it out.
Heather Quarles: So, zero.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Then we go to fourteen point six.
Jill Budd: What more?
Heather Quarles: Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually.
Kristen Blair: No.
Jill Budd: Batteries are uh
Heather Quarles: L_C_
Jill Budd: quite
Heather Quarles: three? Yeah hand dynamo? Y t come on,
Rose Ivy: Um
Jill Budd: Uh no,
Heather Quarles: w
Jill Budd: no
Heather Quarles: a remote
Jill Budd: no
Heather Quarles: control
Kristen Blair: N
Jill Budd: no.
Heather Quarles: has a battery.
Kristen Blair: Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think. Because
Rose Ivy: Well well
Kristen Blair: uh
Rose Ivy: why why why should we use a advanced chip?
Heather Quarles: Well be for the
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: L_C_D_
Kristen Blair: L_C_D_
Heather Quarles: uh you
Kristen Blair: screen.
Heather Quarles: had said.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: Yeah?
Jill Budd: Hmm.
Rose Ivy: Can't we do that with a regular chip?
Kristen Blair: No.
Rose Ivy: Why not?
Kristen Blair: Because uh that uh y
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: because
Heather Quarles: what what's the difference between
Kristen Blair: my information
Heather Quarles: simple
Kristen Blair: says
Heather Quarles: and regular?
Kristen Blair: it. Huh?
Heather Quarles: What's the difference between a simple
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: and
Rose Ivy: Regular
Heather Quarles: a regular chip?
Rose Ivy: is normal.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: And simple?
Kristen Blair: Uh
Rose Ivy: Simple.
Kristen Blair: well
Heather Quarles: Nothing.
Kristen Blair: yeah I I read something about it, but
Rose Ivy: Elementary.
Heather Quarles: Well?
Kristen Blair: Yeah, I
Heather Quarles: Your part.
Kristen Blair: I read something about it, but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report.
Heather Quarles: What happens if we do
Kristen Blair: Single Well you have to use a chip. So Well you have
Heather Quarles: How
Kristen Blair: to
Heather Quarles: much
Kristen Blair: use
Heather Quarles: do we
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: win?
Kristen Blair: advanced
Rose Ivy: We we
Kristen Blair: chip,
Rose Ivy: we
Heather Quarles: One.
Kristen Blair: if you have
Rose Ivy: Why?
Kristen Blair: the L_C_D_ screen.
Rose Ivy: We have very little options furthermore, for the
Kristen Blair: But
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: if you have a regular chip, you can't have the L_C_D_ screen.
Rose Ivy: Uh well we have to put
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: that in.
Jill Budd: we need to have the the L_C_D_
Kristen Blair: That that's
Jill Budd: screen.
Kristen Blair: a fact.
Heather Quarles: Well,
Kristen Blair: Uh
Heather Quarles: we could say, well this special colour, that
Jill Budd: No
Heather Quarles: isn't that that isn't there, because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour.
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: Yeah, but it's
Jill Budd: but
Kristen Blair: only
Rose Ivy: Nah.
Kristen Blair: one half.
Jill Budd: No,
Kristen Blair: Uh
Jill Budd: that's
Kristen Blair: it d
Jill Budd: n
Kristen Blair: it doesn't
Jill Budd: It's not relevant.
Heather Quarles: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: Yeah, you must change
Heather Quarles: then
Rose Ivy: the
Heather Quarles: you
Rose Ivy: chip
Heather Quarles: s then
Rose Ivy: uh
Heather Quarles: you only
Rose Ivy: back.
Heather Quarles: have one half left.
Rose Ivy: You
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: must change the chip back, Nils.
Heather Quarles: Uh yeah.
Kristen Blair: But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen.
Jill Budd: No, Then the whole concept is uh
Kristen Blair: Yeah, I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Kristen Blair: put
Jill Budd: You
Kristen Blair: uh the advanced chip
Rose Ivy: No
Kristen Blair: in there for fun.
Jill Budd: You
Rose Ivy: we
Jill Budd: can make
Rose Ivy: oh
Jill Budd: you
Kristen Blair: You
Jill Budd: can
Kristen Blair: have
Jill Budd: make
Kristen Blair: to use
Jill Budd: it cheaper.
Kristen Blair: it.
Jill Budd: But if you don't sell
Rose Ivy: You
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: you we have an advanced chip-on-print, and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's
Heather Quarles: Yeah?
Rose Ivy: a bit double. Y
Heather Quarles: No,
Rose Ivy: we don't need both.
Heather Quarles: the advanced chip is needed to
Kristen Blair: For
Heather Quarles: have
Kristen Blair: the L_C_D_
Heather Quarles: an L_C_D_
Kristen Blair: screen.
Heather Quarles: display.
Kristen Blair: Yeah. Yeah.
Rose Ivy: Says.
Heather Quarles: Says, his Uh that was in the second meeting, I think.
Kristen Blair: Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again? Because we you
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: have
Heather Quarles: I
Kristen Blair: uncurved
Heather Quarles: I did single curve to Well you said s double
Rose Ivy: I?
Heather Quarles: curved, uh he,
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already. We can
Jill Budd: No
Heather Quarles: also
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: make it flat.
Jill Budd: no
Kristen Blair: But
Jill Budd: no
Kristen Blair: what
Jill Budd: no.
Kristen Blair: what
Heather Quarles: But
Kristen Blair: did what do n Sorry, but What do they mean with the curves? Is th
Heather Quarles: Curved? Yes,
Kristen Blair: Is this
Heather Quarles: that's
Kristen Blair: a
Heather Quarles: curved.
Kristen Blair: curve? One curve? Yeah, this
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Kristen Blair: is actually two curves, yeah. It's
Heather Quarles: No,
Kristen Blair: how
Heather Quarles: it's
Kristen Blair: you
Heather Quarles: one
Kristen Blair: It's
Heather Quarles: curve.
Kristen Blair: how you look at
Rose Ivy: One
Kristen Blair: it.
Rose Ivy: curve.
Heather Quarles: One curve, simple.
Kristen Blair: Well then we have a huge problem I think. W t we can never get uh below the
Heather Quarles: We
Kristen Blair: twelve
Heather Quarles: have a big
Kristen Blair: and a
Heather Quarles: financial
Kristen Blair: half.
Heather Quarles: problem.
Rose Ivy: Well we make it more expensive to buy.
Heather Quarles: Well, then we have two dollars less profit. Come on, if we if we if we make this fifty million, they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us, so uh
Jill Budd: If if you make people brand-aware, they are willing to pay more. But
Kristen Blair: But uh I
Jill Budd: Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy.
Rose Ivy: Yeah or we could
Jill Budd: If you if
Rose Ivy: replace
Jill Budd: you make it cool
Rose Ivy: it
Jill Budd: to have
Heather Quarles: By the way, we also have this one.
Jill Budd: Oh, that's just great.
Heather Quarles: Oh, costs nothing.
Jill Budd: Oh,
Heather Quarles: That's nice.
Jill Budd: alright.
Heather Quarles: Plastic
Kristen Blair: Hey but uh
Heather Quarles: is
Kristen Blair: I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen, it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing.
Heather Quarles: Yes, but I just got it.
Kristen Blair: Well
Rose Ivy: Why
Kristen Blair: that's pretty
Rose Ivy: why
Kristen Blair: uh
Rose Ivy: don't we
Kristen Blair: l
Rose Ivy: replace
Jill Budd: That is
Rose Ivy: the titanium
Jill Budd: pretty stupid.
Kristen Blair: N
Rose Ivy: with
Kristen Blair: not
Rose Ivy: uh
Kristen Blair: very practical.
Rose Ivy: plastic
Kristen Blair: Well
Rose Ivy: coloured titanium, uh
Heather Quarles: Who?
Rose Ivy: titanium-coloured plastic?
Heather Quarles: You want to dump the titanium?
Rose Ivy: Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper.
Heather Quarles: And make all plastic, then we ha then we're there.
Kristen Blair: But I'm n I don't agree.
Rose Ivy: But
Kristen Blair: I think
Rose Ivy: then we we've got to uh
Heather Quarles: Th then
Rose Ivy: run
Heather Quarles: you
Rose Ivy: through
Heather Quarles: have
Rose Ivy: the
Heather Quarles: a
Rose Ivy: eval
Heather Quarles: ugly,
Rose Ivy: evaluation
Heather Quarles: stupid,
Rose Ivy: process again.
Heather Quarles: l ugly looking, dumb remote
Rose Ivy: Ah no
Heather Quarles: that
Rose Ivy: no.
Heather Quarles: that no-one would buy.
Rose Ivy: It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same.
Heather Quarles: No, I don't think so.
Jill Budd: Y
Rose Ivy: Well, I
Kristen Blair: I
Rose Ivy: do
Kristen Blair: think
Rose Ivy: think so.
Kristen Blair: the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Kristen Blair: the and the
Heather Quarles: And the feel,
Rose Ivy: feel.
Heather Quarles: and th that it is strong, and
Kristen Blair: And also the the older people will like it because of that. And
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: because i
Jill Budd: I
Kristen Blair: Alright
Jill Budd: agree.
Kristen Blair: it's not our target audience, but it's it's useful
Heather Quarles: We still
Kristen Blair: if it's uh
Heather Quarles: we had to focus
Kristen Blair: important for old
Heather Quarles: to
Kristen Blair: people.
Heather Quarles: get more people
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: from the younger group, but not lose the one
Kristen Blair: I think the titanium is very important.
Rose Ivy: Yeah alright but then we we
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Rose Ivy: won't
Kristen Blair: we have a
Rose Ivy: get
Kristen Blair: problem,
Rose Ivy: there.
Kristen Blair: yeah. W But you can better, yeah, dump the L_C_D_ screen
Rose Ivy: We
Kristen Blair: then.
Rose Ivy: can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.
Jill Budd: I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.
Kristen Blair: Well what else? W I
Rose Ivy: No,
Kristen Blair: mean
Rose Ivy: nothing.
Kristen Blair: uh
Jill Budd: Or you shou
Rose Ivy: Amen.
Jill Budd: It's Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Jill Budd: uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: than lose the L_C_D_ screen. Because you have lots of functions in it too.
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: well yeah. Alright.
Heather Quarles: Why can't
Kristen Blair: I
Heather Quarles: I
Kristen Blair: agree
Rose Ivy: But
Kristen Blair: with that. So we u we use uh Unfortunately. Um.
Heather Quarles: I'll put in the report
Kristen Blair: Titanium-coloured
Heather Quarles: we that we think that fourteen
Kristen Blair: plastic.
Heather Quarles: point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these
Jill Budd: Yeah, I
Heather Quarles: days.
Jill Budd: agree.
Kristen Blair: So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.
Heather Quarles: I I'll talk to the managers.
Rose Ivy: No no no no. W Titanium stays there.
Heather Quarles: Titanium, I thi I think this this is this is e really good re
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Jill Budd: Osl
Kristen Blair: this is
Heather Quarles: remote.
Kristen Blair: good, but it it's not
Heather Quarles: But
Kristen Blair: good enough. So we have to use the ditch the titanium, I'm afraid.
Heather Quarles: Ah those
Rose Ivy: Well
Heather Quarles: those account managers, what do th d what do they know? Come on.
Kristen Blair: What
Heather Quarles: Riot.
Kristen Blair: do we Well what do we know? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really
Heather Quarles: Yes,
Kristen Blair: consider the costs.
Heather Quarles: yes.
Kristen Blair: So
Rose Ivy: No because we did not know anything about
Jill Budd: If
Rose Ivy: it.
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Jill Budd: you
Heather Quarles: One
Jill Budd: don't
Kristen Blair: al
Heather Quarles: and
Jill Budd: have
Kristen Blair: alright,
Heather Quarles: a
Jill Budd: the
Heather Quarles: half
Jill Budd: money,
Heather Quarles: Euros.
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Jill Budd: you can't
Kristen Blair: But
Jill Budd: make it.
Heather Quarles: Hmm?
Kristen Blair: we
Jill Budd: So
Kristen Blair: have
Jill Budd: s
Kristen Blair: to deal with it now. So
Jill Budd: If you don't have the money, you can't make it. So this is too expensive.
Heather Quarles: So?
Kristen Blair: So
Jill Budd: So we have to make it cheaper.
Kristen Blair: Titanium gone and add plastic.
Jill Budd: Right.
Rose Ivy: Yeah, but then we've got money left.
Kristen Blair: And on plastic times two and then we uh are there?
Heather Quarles: Well, no it's just uh all plastic.
Kristen Blair: No
Heather Quarles: Well alright.
Kristen Blair: No
Heather Quarles: Huh.
Kristen Blair: yeah well Oh six. A lot of plastic,
Jill Budd: It's
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Jill Budd: just free, man.
Heather Quarles: Four. So
Kristen Blair: No two for the to make it clear.
Heather Quarles: But then we can add the special colour?
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: As we have money over uh left.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: And we still
Rose Ivy: W
Heather Quarles: have money left. What do we want, guys?
Kristen Blair: I want gold plating. No no
Jill Budd: Yeah right.
Kristen Blair: um
Jill Budd: I want chrome.
Rose Ivy: Well I think uh the case is double curved then.
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Rose Ivy: Because
Kristen Blair: We have
Rose Ivy: you y have that
Kristen Blair: we
Rose Ivy: curve
Kristen Blair: have to
Rose Ivy: and
Kristen Blair: uh
Rose Ivy: you have
Kristen Blair: fill
Heather Quarles: Y Oh
Rose Ivy: that
Heather Quarles: no.
Rose Ivy: curve.
Kristen Blair: W
Rose Ivy: Yeah
Kristen Blair: we ha
Jill Budd: Well,
Rose Ivy: well
Jill Budd: th that
Rose Ivy: uh
Jill Budd: that
Heather Quarles: Alright.
Jill Budd: is the problem.
Kristen Blair: No no no, but th that's
Heather Quarles: Safe.
Kristen Blair: not f um
Rose Ivy: Well y we have curves
Kristen Blair: Well
Rose Ivy: in all
Kristen Blair: you
Rose Ivy: directions.
Kristen Blair: can you can double curve, if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped, so it
Heather Quarles: So
Kristen Blair: it can be done.
Heather Quarles: alright.
Kristen Blair: But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it
Heather Quarles: Finance?
Rose Ivy: I mean,
Kristen Blair: isn't bad to to to stay
Rose Ivy: this
Kristen Blair: at eleven.
Rose Ivy: this ain't titanium, but it looks like it.
Kristen Blair: We
Heather Quarles: Well,
Kristen Blair: get more salary,
Heather Quarles: guys?
Kristen Blair: if we make
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: if cheaper
Heather Quarles: Guys?
Kristen Blair: than twelve uh
Heather Quarles: We
Kristen Blair: twelve
Heather Quarles: have
Kristen Blair: and
Heather Quarles: to
Kristen Blair: a
Jill Budd: Shoot.
Kristen Blair: half.
Heather Quarles: dump our titanium, and we'll hate the managers for that, but now we're going to
Kristen Blair: Objection.
Heather Quarles: evaluate our project, of uh project,
Rose Ivy: Pro project.
Heather Quarles: project. Well, satisfaction on for example, are we satisfactory about our creativity?
Kristen Blair: Well I can't get no satisfaction, but uh I think it's uh Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best, yeah.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: I think it's terrible
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: that we got uh those costs at the last moment.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: Yeah, Jill Budd too.
Heather Quarles: That's really bad.
Kristen Blair: Its it's
Heather Quarles: But
Kristen Blair: uh ridiculous actually,
Rose Ivy: And
Heather Quarles: that
Rose Ivy: uh
Kristen Blair: but
Heather Quarles: that
Rose Ivy: unrealistic.
Heather Quarles: that's that, yeah that's a reason, but also for our creativity. We had um nice design, and then you get the cost, and you had to dump all your creativity.
Rose Ivy: Well
Jill Budd: Right.
Rose Ivy: we we we used our creativity, but we just had to adapt it to the costs.
Kristen Blair: Which isn't very practical, but
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: Nei.
Kristen Blair: that's the way.
Rose Ivy: Uh no.
Heather Quarles: Well,
Kristen Blair: Uh-huh.
Heather Quarles: alright. Uh leadership next.
Rose Ivy: Terrible.
Heather Quarles: Uh teamwork?
Jill Budd: Leadership.
Rose Ivy: Leadership?
Jill Budd: Well
Rose Ivy: Well
Jill Budd: it's It was very democratic.
Heather Quarles: Uh yeah
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: well I think
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: so also. I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time, so
Jill Budd: Yeah yeah.
Heather Quarles: Well the managers were terrible. So, with their all their useless requirements. But o alright,
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: the teamwork?
Kristen Blair: uh they they didn't think of the requirements. It's the requirements of the user, uh I guess.
Heather Quarles: No they said, oh we won't d uh we won't uh use
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: teletext, uh we won't use the D_V_D_.
Kristen Blair: Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.
Heather Quarles: Alright, teamwork?
Jill Budd: Well
Heather Quarles: Well great I think.
Rose Ivy: Right
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: yeah.
Jill Budd: think so too.
Heather Quarles: Uh well what do you, what did you think about the SMARTboard?
Kristen Blair: It was a complete disaster. No
Jill Budd: Yeah, I
Kristen Blair: Uh
Heather Quarles: Well
Jill Budd: don't
Kristen Blair: it it it
Jill Budd: like
Rose Ivy: No,
Kristen Blair: uh
Jill Budd: it.
Rose Ivy: that's
Kristen Blair: it is
Rose Ivy: a SMARTboard,
Kristen Blair: uh
Jill Budd: Yeah?
Rose Ivy: and that's a digital pen.
Heather Quarles: It's
Rose Ivy: Or
Heather Quarles: also
Rose Ivy: not?
Heather Quarles: a It's both
Kristen Blair: No
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: it's
Heather Quarles: SMARTboards.
Kristen Blair: other way around. That's the SMARTboard. That's
Heather Quarles: I liked
Kristen Blair: the digital
Heather Quarles: this
Kristen Blair: panel.
Heather Quarles: SMARTboard,
Jill Budd: This
Heather Quarles: but I hated
Jill Budd: this
Heather Quarles: that one.
Jill Budd: this isn't a SMARTboard,
Heather Quarles: Well it's
Jill Budd: right?
Heather Quarles: both a SMARTboard.
Kristen Blair: That's that's the smart
Jill Budd: Yeah right. B but you This is
Rose Ivy: Oh
Jill Budd: just
Rose Ivy: they're both
Jill Budd: a large
Rose Ivy: SMARTboards.
Jill Budd: t large television.
Heather Quarles: No.
Jill Budd: You u you use the
Kristen Blair: A televi
Heather Quarles: It's both
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: a SMARTboard, but this one is used for a desktop, and that one is used to to
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: draw.
Jill Budd: but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here, on this one, you can uh draw the pictures and things
Heather Quarles: Well,
Jill Budd: like that.
Heather Quarles: wi w which
Jill Budd: But
Heather Quarles: one did you like?
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Jill Budd: That one.
Kristen Blair: Left or right?
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: That one.
Jill Budd: That one isn't accurate. It just
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Jill Budd: doesn't work. You can
Rose Ivy: But I I think this is meant by the digital pen.
Heather Quarles: Yes. Th that is so.
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: Well
Jill Budd: but
Kristen Blair: I didn't
Jill Budd: I
Kristen Blair: use
Jill Budd: think
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: We're now
Jill Budd: there's
Kristen Blair: uh
Heather Quarles: talking
Jill Budd: a big
Heather Quarles: about
Jill Budd: distinction
Heather Quarles: the SMARTboards.
Jill Budd: between the these th I don't need a SMARTboard.
Kristen Blair: Nei It
Rose Ivy: Well
Kristen Blair: it's much m
Rose Ivy: we we used that one,
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Rose Ivy: and
Jill Budd: but
Rose Ivy: we needed
Jill Budd: give
Rose Ivy: it. I
Jill Budd: Jill Budd
Rose Ivy: think.
Jill Budd: a beamer. That's uh that's much
Rose Ivy: Yeah
Jill Budd: uh
Rose Ivy: alright,
Jill Budd: much
Rose Ivy: but
Jill Budd: cheaper.
Heather Quarles: Or install a laptop to a beamer, or have this one standing here in an I I like it.
Jill Budd: Right.
Rose Ivy: Yeah I like
Heather Quarles: Okay,
Rose Ivy: that
Heather Quarles: alright.
Rose Ivy: one, but that one is terrible.
Kristen Blair: But uh you can uh I I sent it about three times now. Uh a green uh board with uh chalk is much
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: more useful than that
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: thing.
Heather Quarles: Yeah, it is.
Kristen Blair: The simple uh
Heather Quarles: So
Kristen Blair: sch
Jill Budd: I agree.
Kristen Blair: school board.
Heather Quarles: And uh the digi the digital pen? Did uh did you like that one?
Jill Budd: No.
Kristen Blair: I I didn't use it. I wrote things down but I didn't
Heather Quarles: I used
Kristen Blair: import
Heather Quarles: it
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: into my
Heather Quarles: just
Kristen Blair: laptop.
Heather Quarles: to check it out, but uh
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: You you
Kristen Blair: That's
Heather Quarles: can't
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: send that to anyone,
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: because you
Jill Budd: It
Heather Quarles: you've
Jill Budd: isn't
Heather Quarles: scrabbled
Jill Budd: practical.
Heather Quarles: something on a page for yourself,
Jill Budd: Right.
Heather Quarles: and then you're going to send it, yeah. Well, no.
Kristen Blair: W But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your
Jill Budd: Your
Kristen Blair: your
Jill Budd: notepad.
Kristen Blair: note block. So
Jill Budd: Yeah.
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Heather Quarles: It's,
Kristen Blair: the
Heather Quarles: no,
Kristen Blair: th
Heather Quarles: it
Kristen Blair: what's
Heather Quarles: it's useless.
Kristen Blair: the point of importing it
Rose Ivy: Well
Kristen Blair: into
Rose Ivy: I I drew this. Mm. And I made a mistake. But it it would have been uh useful, if
Heather Quarles: Yes.
Rose Ivy: I I could show this on the screen.
Kristen Blair: Yeah alright.
Heather Quarles: For
Kristen Blair: For
Heather Quarles: drawings,
Kristen Blair: drawings, but
Heather Quarles: yes.
Rose Ivy: Yeah
Kristen Blair: not
Rose Ivy: for drawings.
Kristen Blair: for personal notes. I think that's not very
Rose Ivy: N notes mm.
Kristen Blair: Uh I mean you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course
Heather Quarles: But
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: if
Jill Budd: it
Kristen Blair: you
Jill Budd: might
Kristen Blair: have
Jill Budd: be
Kristen Blair: a lot
Jill Budd: useful
Kristen Blair: of paper
Jill Budd: for drawings.
Kristen Blair: If
Jill Budd: I
Kristen Blair: you've
Jill Budd: I agree
Rose Ivy: Mm.
Jill Budd: on that.
Kristen Blair: If
Heather Quarles: But
Kristen Blair: you've
Heather Quarles: for notes, it i you you have to put that in a strict Uh you have to put a name, standard date, and all those things. And notes uh for a meeting are very strict. So if you uh were to write them down for yourself, and then put that in your computer, you still have to type it over to Word.
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: So it
Jill Budd: right.
Heather Quarles: doesn't d doesn't have any
Jill Budd: That Stefan
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Jill Budd: use.
Kristen Blair: I understand. But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork. You can't It's not very uh ni
Jill Budd: No,
Kristen Blair: Yeah
Jill Budd: I
Kristen Blair: well
Jill Budd: don't think so.
Kristen Blair: a lot of documents
Jill Budd: It's
Kristen Blair: are Yeah.
Jill Budd: it's only useful if you have to
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: draw something.
Rose Ivy: it's really useful, I think.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Yep. Alright.
Kristen Blair: Mu
Heather Quarles: Um
Kristen Blair: Yeah right.
Heather Quarles: etcetera? Well uh the laptops?
Jill Budd: Yeah, great.
Heather Quarles: Of course
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: great.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Kristen Blair: Can we keep them?
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Uh.
Heather Quarles: You can. B by my
Jill Budd: Wireless uh wireless
Rose Ivy: Thanks Project
Jill Budd: things.
Rose Ivy: Manager.
Heather Quarles: Yeah. Other uh things we used here? I hated the cameras, I hated the microphones.
Jill Budd: Well
Heather Quarles: But
Jill Budd: these
Heather Quarles: No
Jill Budd: chairs,
Kristen Blair: Well
Jill Budd: man.
Kristen Blair: did you really uh
Jill Budd: Really great.
Kristen Blair: Did you really take uh take those in account? I
Heather Quarles: No.
Kristen Blair: half of time I didn't
Heather Quarles: No.
Kristen Blair: notice they were there.
Heather Quarles: I
Kristen Blair: So
Heather Quarles: haven't looked w one time directly at the camera. I don't care about it.
Rose Ivy: Well
Kristen Blair: But
Rose Ivy: I
Kristen Blair: we
Rose Ivy: did.
Kristen Blair: shouldn't talk about that. Because this
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: is
Heather Quarles: w
Kristen Blair: a
Heather Quarles: why
Kristen Blair: realistic
Heather Quarles: not?
Kristen Blair: environment.
Heather Quarles: Uh etcetera We
Kristen Blair: Right.
Heather Quarles: N new
Kristen Blair: Okay.
Heather Quarles: ideas found? What kind of ideas for n a future schedule What? For future um
Rose Ivy: Well
Heather Quarles: meetings you have
Rose Ivy: I missed
Heather Quarles: got?
Rose Ivy: uh the option to uh
Jill Budd: Communicate
Rose Ivy: to email,
Jill Budd: in between.
Rose Ivy: yeah. Email
Jill Budd: Yeah, right.
Heather Quarles: Chatting
Rose Ivy: or chat
Kristen Blair: But
Heather Quarles: and
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Rose Ivy: or
Heather Quarles: emailing.
Rose Ivy: something.
Kristen Blair: W
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with. So
Rose Ivy: Yeah alright, but that's one n new idea.
Jill Budd: Yeah, I agree.
Heather Quarles: Well, new ideas found by this. Not. Nothing.
Jill Budd: Well,
Heather Quarles: We
Jill Budd: more
Heather Quarles: don't
Jill Budd: more
Heather Quarles: want this.
Jill Budd: information in the beginning.
Heather Quarles: We hate this.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: That's
Heather Quarles: Digital pen is useless.
Rose Ivy: No
Heather Quarles: So
Rose Ivy: it isn't.
Heather Quarles: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: Well,
Heather Quarles: for drawings.
Kristen Blair: for drawing for drawings.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: So it isn't useless.
Heather Quarles: But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings, because
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things, I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive, I'm not going to uh
Jill Budd: For
Kristen Blair: No
Jill Budd: people who uh sketch th the whole day, I can
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Jill Budd: imagine that it's useful.
Heather Quarles: Well th
Kristen Blair: But it's
Heather Quarles: then
Kristen Blair: still
Heather Quarles: still
Kristen Blair: an expensive
Heather Quarles: they they they
Kristen Blair: uh expensive
Heather Quarles: should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop. Because this is huge
Jill Budd: Well
Heather Quarles: uh
Rose Ivy: Well
Heather Quarles: this
Rose Ivy: you
Heather Quarles: v
Rose Ivy: you
Heather Quarles: very
Rose Ivy: can't you
Heather Quarles: very
Rose Ivy: can't
Heather Quarles: uh
Rose Ivy: draw
Heather Quarles: expensive
Rose Ivy: on a laptop
Heather Quarles: paper.
Rose Ivy: like you like you paint of or draw with your hand.
Jill Budd: Yeah, I agree.
Rose Ivy: With
Kristen Blair: But
Rose Ivy: the mouse
Kristen Blair: if w
Rose Ivy: it is
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: No.
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Well and
Jill Budd: Mouse
Kristen Blair: if
Jill Budd: is ju just isn't working if you're sketching.
Rose Ivy: Uh indeed.
Kristen Blair: And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly, what uh would it be useful then, if it wasn't off all the time?
Heather Quarles: Well no. I
Kristen Blair: A
Heather Quarles: hated to draw like that. You you can't
Kristen Blair: Really?
Heather Quarles: draw anything uh neat.
Jill Budd: Yeah, but he's saying if it is correct, and you can draw very,
Kristen Blair: Anything you want. Any b b
Jill Budd: yeah,
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: I
Jill Budd: very
Kristen Blair: L li
Heather Quarles: if
Jill Budd: precise
Heather Quarles: it
Kristen Blair: li
Heather Quarles: if it would be perfect following.
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Well
Kristen Blair: Well
Heather Quarles: th
Kristen Blair: it
Heather Quarles: th
Kristen Blair: isn't, but
Heather Quarles: then
Kristen Blair: maybe
Heather Quarles: still
Jill Budd: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: that thing
Jill Budd: mu
Heather Quarles: it's
Kristen Blair: is uh is
Heather Quarles: it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green
Kristen Blair: Yeah,
Heather Quarles: uh
Kristen Blair: board,
Rose Ivy: Yeah,
Kristen Blair: a school
Rose Ivy: but
Kristen Blair: board,
Rose Ivy: but
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Rose Ivy: then you can
Heather Quarles: school board.
Rose Ivy: uh save it in instantly, and
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: and and
Heather Quarles: Yep.
Kristen Blair: I it
Rose Ivy: re-use
Jill Budd: It
Kristen Blair: has
Jill Budd: saves
Kristen Blair: It
Rose Ivy: it,
Jill Budd: time.
Kristen Blair: is
Rose Ivy: and
Kristen Blair: useful.
Rose Ivy: uh
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Yeah yeah.
Kristen Blair: This uh if it works correct, maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning. So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work,
Heather Quarles: Yep.
Kristen Blair: I think then it's pretty useful.
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room. And then you can save it immediately.
Heather Quarles: Well, they are now.
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Jill Budd: Celebration.
Heather Quarles: It is. So,
Kristen Blair: Did you type
Heather Quarles: congratulations
Kristen Blair: that?
Rose Ivy: Hmm.
Heather Quarles: crew.
Rose Ivy: Celebration.
Heather Quarles: Se
Jill Budd: Well
Rose Ivy: Yeah, we can go to the bar and uh with our
Heather Quarles: Finally my beer.
Rose Ivy: newly earned money.
Heather Quarles: Well, that's it I think.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Um I don't know how long we still have. I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh
Kristen Blair: Maybe till four o'clock or something? Well dunno. Yeah.
Heather Quarles: Well yeah, it is a bit uh Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things. I have to do that.
Jill Budd: Yeah. You better
Heather Quarles: I
Jill Budd: get started.
Heather Quarles: Di did you um save
Rose Ivy: Oh.
Heather Quarles: this one in the folder?
Rose Ivy: No.
Heather Quarles: Can you
Rose Ivy: No
Heather Quarles: do that?
Rose Ivy: no no no.
Kristen Blair: No we must save this thing, yeah. In the shared map map.
Rose Ivy: But Nils you've got some work left.
Heather Quarles: I don't know what you have
Kristen Blair: Map,
Heather Quarles: to do.
Kristen Blair: is it a good word? The
Jill Budd: Huh.
Kristen Blair: folder, yeah.
Rose Ivy: I have to go to a
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Rose Ivy: physiotherapy.
Heather Quarles: Oh it worked. Two
Rose Ivy: Wow.
Heather Quarles: times quick.
Jill Budd: Oh, alright.
Heather Quarles: Cool.
Kristen Blair: So it is useful,
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: yeah.
Rose Ivy: It
Jill Budd: Oh
Rose Ivy: is
Kristen Blair: No
Rose Ivy: handy.
Jill Budd: great,
Kristen Blair: but uh
Jill Budd: man. I'm gonna
Heather Quarles: This
Jill Budd: buy
Heather Quarles: is nice.
Jill Budd: one buy
Kristen Blair: Radical.
Jill Budd: one for my bedroom.
Heather Quarles: Uh
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: D design.
Kristen Blair: Do you believe it yourself?
Heather Quarles: S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um
Rose Ivy: Well they they wanted everything we produced, so
Kristen Blair: They
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: also want to see my cat and his rabbit, and uh
Heather Quarles: Well
Rose Ivy: My big bird.
Kristen Blair: Your big beautiful bird.
Heather Quarles: Where is this?
Kristen Blair: Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't. Of or the other way around uh
Jill Budd: Maybe you are broken.
Kristen Blair: Yeah I think so too.
Jill Budd: You
Rose Ivy: I think
Jill Budd: know.
Rose Ivy: you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready.
Jill Budd: I think she's listening.
Heather Quarles: I also think so. She
Kristen Blair: Who
Heather Quarles: already
Kristen Blair: is
Heather Quarles: knows.
Kristen Blair: she you're talking about? Oh
Heather Quarles: She?
Kristen Blair: you mean our uh
Heather Quarles: Big brother.
Kristen Blair: coach, our f personal coach.
Heather Quarles: Our manager.
Kristen Blair: Is she also our accountant? Is she responsible for
Heather Quarles: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: sending that information so late?
Heather Quarles: I don't think so.
Kristen Blair: Oh.
Rose Ivy: Close
Kristen Blair: Because
Rose Ivy: your laptop.
Kristen Blair: then we have to confront her with our
Rose Ivy: So she can see we're ready.
Jill Budd: I feel watched.
Heather Quarles: Alright.
Rose Ivy: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: We put the fashion in
Rose Ivy: Let's
Heather Quarles: electronics,
Rose Ivy: take this remote into
Heather Quarles: but
Rose Ivy: uh
Heather Quarles: we couldn't
Rose Ivy: production.
Heather Quarles: because of the costs. That that's
Kristen Blair: Yeah. That
Heather Quarles: the
Kristen Blair: that's
Heather Quarles: title
Kristen Blair: our new
Heather Quarles: of
Kristen Blair: slogan.
Heather Quarles: our uh
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Heather Quarles: end document.
Kristen Blair: Yeah, I
Heather Quarles: We
Kristen Blair: like
Heather Quarles: couldn't
Kristen Blair: that.
Heather Quarles: put the fashion into the electronics.
Kristen Blair: Blame our accountants.
Jill Budd: Do that.
Heather Quarles: Yeah, that's a nice title.
Jill Budd: Yeah.
Kristen Blair: But we couldn't, yeah.
Jill Budd: Very catching.
Heather Quarles: Oh.
Kristen Blair: Well I th
Jill Budd: I'm
Kristen Blair: Yeah.
Jill Budd: sure management would like that.
Heather Quarles: Well
Rose Ivy: She's on the move.
Heather Quarles: I'm going to resign after this project anyway, so
Jill Budd: Oh, that's just great. | Kristen Blair and Rose Ivy presented the drawing of a prototype. It is rounded, with the front made of hard plastic in different colours. The back, as well as the lower part of the front are made of titanium. The back has the logo and slogan of the company engraved in its middle. The buttons include oval digit buttons, arrow-shaped channel and volume controls in the middle; below those, is the menu (for the LCD) and the video button. The LCD can be found at the lower section of the device. After the presentation, the product was evaluated. This was done on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad) on fancifulness, ease of use, finding the device when it is lost, hi-tech features, incorporation of fashion trends, and ergonomic design. Because it was over budget, titanium was replaced by plastic and the speech recognition was discarded. They thought it would have been more sensible to have the component costs before the prototype design. Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (generally satisfied), leadership (the process was democratic, not happy with management), teamwork (happy with it), and means (SMARTboard was 'a disaster' and the digital pens only good for drawings). | 2 | amisum | test |
Ashley Goya: Good
Martha Martin: G
Ashley Goya: morning, Flores.
Martha Martin: good morning.
Ashley Goya: Marketing Expert.
Martha Martin: Oh yeah.
Ashley Goya: Right.
Martha Martin: Are you ready? You should put the laptop uh right into the square.
Ashley Goya: For the cameras
Martha Martin: For i for the cameras, yes.
Ashley Goya: Alright.
Martha Martin: Good morning, Sebastian.
Thomasina Cross: Good morning, Mister P_M_. How are you today?
Martha Martin: I'm fine.
Thomasina Cross: How was your business trip to Boston?
Martha Martin: Um well, actually I didn't go,
Ashley Goya: Geez.
Martha Martin: didn't feel like it. So Do you want to open it as read-only. Um I guess I should close it here.
Ashley Goya: You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um sen oh stand-by. Close the the
Carol Velez: Okay.
Ashley Goya: window.
Martha Martin: Okay, the waiting
Ashley Goya: So
Martha Martin: is for our Marketing Expert,
Ashley Goya: That's
Martha Martin: Ruud.
Ashley Goya: right. Ruud.
Martha Martin: Um project kick-off.
Thomasina Cross: Is there a schedule for this meeting?
Martha Martin: Yes, there is actually. Um I will li list the agenda for today. For this meeting. Good morning, Ruud.
Carol Velez: Good morning.
Martha Martin: Uh it's important um
Thomasina Cross: I shall close the door.
Martha Martin: yeah, great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square, um for the cameras. Okay.
Martha Martin: Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product. Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager
Ashley Goya: Mm-hmm.
Martha Martin: about it. Um and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as Carol Velez, Roo is here as Ashley Goya and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct?
Thomasina Cross: That's correct.
Ashley Goya: Mm-hmm.
Martha Martin: Okay. Um we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan, uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes, so
Ashley Goya: Alright.
Martha Martin: we
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: should keep that in mind.
Thomasina Cross: Um is there any room for a little presentation? Uh maybe during the discussion uh
Martha Martin: There is?
Thomasina Cross: section?
Martha Martin: Yeah, there is.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: No problem. Um okay, this new product we are are g are going to develop, um it's a remote control, a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original, it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals, um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop. Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and
Ashley Goya: Okay.
Martha Martin: all those kind of things. The market, we should have a look at the market. Um we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development, um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design, the conceptual design and the detailed design, um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work, prepare, and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the the
Ashley Goya: Progressions.
Martha Martin: the progressions, yes. Um the first stage, the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements, and we will um make a specific uh specification of that. Um the second is the technical functional design, um what effect should the remote have? Well in this case control t the the television
Ashley Goya: It's for the
Martha Martin: I
Ashley Goya: vision.
Martha Martin: think.
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Martha Martin: Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages, uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it keep it with the functional design. Okay, um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation. Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um to um presentate, to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder, which is on your desktop, at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system. Um yeah, I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh
Ashley Goya: Sensors.
Martha Martin: sensors, so do not grab it here, but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well, it it's on the um eraser now, so we click the pen button.
Martha Martin: Okay, so not too fast writing. Um you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day. Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.
Ashley Goya: But we all use the same white-board file
Martha Martin: Yes.
Ashley Goya: So we can work together on it while we're or
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Ashley Goya: should we only use it in?
Martha Martin: Yeah, in the meetings, only in the
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Martha Martin: meetings.
Ashley Goya: okay.
Martha Martin: It's really like like a regu
Ashley Goya: Yeah, alright.
Martha Martin: regular whiteboard.
Ashley Goya: Yep.
Martha Martin: Um you can choose the format, um sorry. Uh Let Carol Velez see. Um Well I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour, you can choose another colour. And um for example black, and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy, do have any questions, just c ask Carol Velez. Um to um oh well, I'm I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected.
Carol Velez: Okay.
Carol Velez: Um green.
Carol Velez: An animal. Okay. Um
Carol Velez: Uh
Ashley Goya: It's a bunny.
Carol Velez: a wee rabbit.
Martha Martin: A rabbit.
Thomasina Cross: Alright.
Martha Martin: Okay, well great. Um Roo, could you do the same please?
Ashley Goya: But of course,
Martha Martin: But
Ashley Goya: Flores.
Martha Martin: a different animal with a different colour and a different line width.
Ashley Goya: Blank.
Martha Martin: Sebastian is thinking about the animal.
Thomasina Cross: I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal.
Martha Martin: Okay.
Ashley Goya: Yeah, I'm think about it too. Format.
Ashley Goya: Well, it looked more than a bunny than a cat, but it works, right?
Martha Martin: It it should be a cat.
Carol Velez: Yeah.
Martha Martin: Okay?
Thomasina Cross: Well, I'll give it a try.
Thomasina Cross: Mm.
Martha Martin: I'm guessing a horse.
Thomasina Cross: Very good.
Ashley Goya: With a very small legs.
Thomasina Cross: I very good in drawing.
Ashley Goya: You should feed that uh that animal.
Thomasina Cross: Well, I guess you uh get the idea.
Martha Martin: Yes, okay.
Thomasina Cross: Beautiful.
Martha Martin: Beautiful. Okay, so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions well, just just let Carol Velez know. Um okay, back to our project. Um the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros, which is quite a number. Um we uh we will focus this internationally, so the product will be sold um, if there is market uh interest, uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty, so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development, um because uh, well, those are important numbers. Um then the discussion, maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation.
Thomasina Cross: Yes, um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion, because uh there might be some uh
Martha Martin: Limitations.
Thomasina Cross: influations influences.
Martha Martin: Okay.
Ashley Goya: Okay.
Thomasina Cross: Okay?
Martha Martin: Okay, great.
Thomasina Cross: Okay. Um first about my role, role of Thomasina Cross. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things, and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas, uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions, but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one. Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that, but well, these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product.
Ashley Goya: Okay.
Thomasina Cross: I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance, uh D_V_D_ players, cell phones, video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment.
Ashley Goya: And for a cell phone?
Thomasina Cross: Well, there should be some interoperabi
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Thomasina Cross: interoperability
Ashley Goya: okay.
Thomasina Cross: between them.
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore, so infrared is not uh is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things
Ashley Goya: But
Thomasina Cross: like uh Bluetooth.
Ashley Goya: Yeah, but the infrared, it's uh, well, a little bit old-fashioned, if you would
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: call it like that.
Thomasina Cross: But it's
Ashley Goya: But
Thomasina Cross: cost-effective.
Ashley Goya: all the T_V_s are
Thomasina Cross: Yes.
Ashley Goya: uh equipped with infrared, so
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: y
Thomasina Cross: Well,
Ashley Goya: you you can
Thomasina Cross: not all, not all. So that's the point.
Ashley Goya: Most of them.
Thomasina Cross: So
Ashley Goya: Or you shou sh use a you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together
Thomasina Cross: Maybe,
Ashley Goya: in one
Thomasina Cross: but
Ashley Goya: remote.
Thomasina Cross: that's uh something we should discuss
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role, I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input, and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look,
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: but take these things into account when you start the discussion.
Martha Martin: Okay, so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability,
Thomasina Cross: Yes, so
Martha Martin: and
Thomasina Cross: one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment,
Martha Martin: Okay, and
Thomasina Cross: and
Martha Martin: and
Thomasina Cross: the
Martha Martin: uh
Thomasina Cross: way of communicating with these equipments.
Martha Martin: Okay. Okay, good.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: Um that was your presentation?
Thomasina Cross: That's it.
Martha Martin: Okay, okay. Um okay. Great. Um I'll go back to my own presentation. Um Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things. Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um how to make it trendy, which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user, which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part.
Ashley Goya: Mm-hmm.
Martha Martin: Um so let's start with you. H how do you think the remote should um function for the user?
Ashley Goya: Well, I had a few uh things in mind. Um well, the interoperability, just like uh Sebastian said, um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um Yeah uh, what is it, devices?
Martha Martin: Yep.
Ashley Goya: Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.
Thomasina Cross: Yes, I think it should
Ashley Goya: It's not
Thomasina Cross: be
Ashley Goya: for
Thomasina Cross: something
Ashley Goya: uh
Thomasina Cross: like
Ashley Goya: for
Thomasina Cross: that.
Ashley Goya: uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product, right?
Martha Martin: Okay, so we're we're going business to consumer, not we're we're it's
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Martha Martin: not a
Ashley Goya: I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh
Thomasina Cross: We're
Ashley Goya: don't
Thomasina Cross: not
Ashley Goya: have
Thomasina Cross: developing
Ashley Goya: the information
Thomasina Cross: this
Ashley Goya: for
Thomasina Cross: product
Ashley Goya: it.
Thomasina Cross: for a specific vendor, are
Martha Martin: No.
Thomasina Cross: we? No,
Martha Martin: No.
Thomasina Cross: we're
Ashley Goya: No,
Thomasina Cross: just
Ashley Goya: okay.
Thomasina Cross: developing this product, and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public, so
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: it should fit to every device.
Martha Martin: Uh Ruud, y
Carol Velez: Yeah,
Martha Martin: do
Carol Velez: I
Martha Martin: you
Carol Velez: think
Martha Martin: agree?
Carol Velez: I think they're right, yeah.
Martha Martin: Okay. Okay.
Ashley Goya: Um Well, the techni fu technical function uh what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function.
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Ashley Goya: So that was my really my part for uh this session. Um
Martha Martin: So is that
Thomasina Cross: Yeah.
Martha Martin: ease of use or uh is that more like um
Ashley Goya: Well, that's just the fu the technical function is pure what should the remote control do, wh what is his task uh
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: as an uh as an uh device. It just should change the T_V_'s
Martha Martin: Okay.
Ashley Goya: state. So that's it. Um but
Thomasina Cross: And
Ashley Goya: furthermore
Thomasina Cross: you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this?
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: Or are there any o other
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Thomasina Cross: controls?
Ashley Goya: with buttons.
Thomasina Cross: Are there
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Thomasina Cross: only
Ashley Goya: or
Thomasina Cross: any other
Ashley Goya: maybe
Thomasina Cross: cont
Ashley Goya: you want a touch-screen or
Thomasina Cross: Well,
Ashley Goya: But
Thomasina Cross: I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward,
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: sidewords.
Martha Martin: Uh-huh.
Thomasina Cross: You know these things. And um it's
Ashley Goya: They're
Thomasina Cross: very
Ashley Goya: very vu
Thomasina Cross: easy
Ashley Goya: vulnerable.
Thomasina Cross: for a user to to switch w yes,
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_, on on a chapters, you know, on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea, I don't know.
Ashley Goya: Yeah. And for other user interface I had um, well, it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_, I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: point directly to the T_V_, so you must point everywhere, so
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Ashley Goya: maybe infrared
Martha Martin: Maybe
Ashley Goya: is
Martha Martin: not even pointed.
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Ashley Goya: just don't even point it, so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: that.
Martha Martin: Okay
Thomasina Cross: Uh
Martha Martin: Uh
Thomasina Cross: is that uh are there restriction for the range, the operating range too? So when you're not able to point at the device um
Ashley Goya: Yeah, if you
Thomasina Cross: the
Ashley Goya: g
Thomasina Cross: range
Ashley Goya: if you
Thomasina Cross: is
Ashley Goya: go to
Thomasina Cross: very
Ashley Goya: radio
Thomasina Cross: limited.
Ashley Goya: or or yeah. For T_V_, you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_, so I don't think think the range should
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: be a problem to
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: that, but if you want to uh get it working with a radio, and you're in outside your garden with just one uh speaker,
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: then maybe the range should be uh
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: Okay,
Ashley Goya: But
Martha Martin: gentlemen, um uh just a reminder, we d we have five minutes left for
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: this meeting
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Martha Martin: um
Ashley Goya: Two more things.
Martha Martin: okay.
Ashley Goya: Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons, so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand. You
Martha Martin: Okay,
Ashley Goya: must feel
Martha Martin: s
Ashley Goya: the buttons for
Martha Martin: yeah.
Ashley Goya: volume or whatever, I think.
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Ashley Goya: And of course you don't always know where all buttons are, so it should be visible al um in dark too. So
Martha Martin: Okay.
Ashley Goya: when it's dark Those are two really uh user interface
Martha Martin: Uh I'll write down glow in the dark.
Ashley Goya: Yeah. That's
Martha Martin: Is tha
Ashley Goya: perfect.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: Okay. Okay,
Thomasina Cross: Do
Martha Martin: um
Thomasina Cross: do you
Martha Martin: uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting. Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the such a product? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product?
Carol Velez: Uh I think most most things have already been said, like uh control multiple devices.
Martha Martin: Mm-hmm.
Carol Velez: And uh, yeah, infrared might be an issue.
Martha Martin: Because?
Carol Velez: Uh well, he said about n abo what he said about pointing.
Martha Martin: Mm-hmm.
Carol Velez: But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So implement that.
Martha Martin: Okay. Okay.
Martha Martin: Okay, Sebastian, did you have any other
Thomasina Cross: Um
Martha Martin: ideas?
Thomasina Cross: well yes, I had, uh about three minutes ago, but I've seem to forget them forgot them. Um oh yes, I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark. Um
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control, on which you can see functions? Which makes it easier to operate
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: it.
Ashley Goya: Well, maybe I um but
Thomasina Cross: I
Ashley Goya: it
Thomasina Cross: I don't
Ashley Goya: it
Thomasina Cross: know.
Ashley Goya: can be quite simple, you can just have white buttons
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: with a black mark
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Ashley Goya: on it. The uh the the digits in
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Ashley Goya: black. Uh then it's already visible in dark.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Ashley Goya: So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy well,
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Ashley Goya: it can
Martha Martin: Okay.
Ashley Goya: be for
Martha Martin: Yeah,
Ashley Goya: design,
Martha Martin: yeah,
Ashley Goya: of course.
Martha Martin: okay, because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product.
Thomasina Cross: Yes, but
Martha Martin: So
Thomasina Cross: there's a cost limitation too. Well, that's
Martha Martin: Yeah,
Carol Velez: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: more
Martha Martin: twelve Euro fifty,
Thomasina Cross: So
Martha Martin: yeah.
Thomasina Cross: that's a big problem, I think. I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product. The
Martha Martin: Okay.
Thomasina Cross: cost price is very low. Um
Ashley Goya: Just remind something. The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade.
Martha Martin: Okay,
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Ashley Goya: You have a m
Thomasina Cross: Very
Martha Martin: okay.
Ashley Goya: uh
Thomasina Cross: good point. Yeah.
Ashley Goya: Always have s the soft buttons, always uh clear the the the paint on it. The marks.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: Okay, um I ha I have one point f um which which comes in mind now. Um uh d I think the device should either be rechargeable very
Thomasina Cross: Mm-hmm.
Martha Martin: easily
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: um or it should not consume too much um power. Because it's very annoying if you need to change the batteries every s uh uh every other week.
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: So um maybe we could um for example uh only
Ashley Goya: But um
Martha Martin: light the buttons that are um
Ashley Goya: Necessary,
Martha Martin: uh applicable at that
Ashley Goya: yeah.
Martha Martin: moment or yeah. I dunno, it's uh that's more Sebastian's
Ashley Goya: Yeah.
Martha Martin: uh um
Thomasina Cross: Hmm.
Ashley Goya: But then Bluetooth uh might be problem. 'Cause I think Bluetooth uh
Thomasina Cross: It's use uh a lot of uh
Ashley Goya: Yeah,
Martha Martin: Well
Thomasina Cross: well
Martha Martin: does
Ashley Goya: I know
Martha Martin: it?
Ashley Goya: it from the cell
Martha Martin: I'm
Ashley Goya: phone.
Martha Martin: not sure.
Thomasina Cross: Well,
Martha Martin: Uh
Thomasina Cross: cell phones have uh integrated Bluetooth also and, well, it's it seems to work uh quite okay.
Martha Martin: Yeah.
Ashley Goya: But
Thomasina Cross: technically
Ashley Goya: you can't
Thomasina Cross: it will
Ashley Goya: you
Thomasina Cross: be
Ashley Goya: can't
Thomasina Cross: possible.
Ashley Goya: use Bluetooth all the time, twenty four hours a day.
Thomasina Cross: No,
Martha Martin: Okay.
Thomasina Cross: you cannot.
Ashley Goya: Does it
Martha Martin: Gentlemen,
Ashley Goya: It's over?
Martha Martin: I'm
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: afraid we do not have any more time. Um
Thomasina Cross: Okay.
Martha Martin: so we will go back to our own uh work. Um next meeting starts in thirty minutes and um, well, you know your o your individual actions or your personal coach will probably email you about th it. Um so this was it.
Ashley Goya: Okay.
Martha Martin: See you in thirty minutes.
Ashley Goya: Great. | Martha Martin opened the meeting and introduced the project, describing what the project would involve, the role of each participant and the agenda for the first meeting. He the demonstrated the equipment the group would be using, and the group practiced using the SMARTboard by drawing their favourite animals. Martha Martin then went over the project budget. Thomasina Cross gave a brief presentation about his role and his initial ideas for the project, suggesting that the remote should be used for multiple devices and that the group should consider using bluetooth rather than infrared. Martha Martin then asked the others about their initial ideas. Ashley Goya agreed that the remote should control multiple devices. They also discussed having glow in the dark buttons, using bluetooth instead of infrared and using a display and/or a joystick instead of conventional buttons. However, they were unsure about what the budget would allow. Martha Martin suggested that the remote should be rechargeable or not use much power, but this might be difficult if using bluetooth. Martha Martin closed the meeting. | 2 | amisum | test |
Michelle Mathis: Can
Lizzie Joyce: Uh
Michelle Mathis: I close this?
Lizzie Joyce: we don't have any changes, do we So?
Michelle Mathis: Oh,
Lizzie Joyce: no.
Michelle Mathis: okay.
Michelle Mathis: There we go. Okay, here we are again. Detailed design oh, come on. Well Ah s Forgot to insert the minutes, but it's about the same thing we discussed before. Uh Could open that anyway, think.
Michelle Mathis: Other design anyway, we took as we took w we took rubber as as the material last time. We also that you're just busy with it. Took the advanced chip to t implement the advanced features. Well, we discussed the design, no sharp corners, we rounded it off, like you see on the other screen, which is fine. Um we agreed that the colour should be b uh yellow and black. Yellow in the back because it's m trendy, more trendy than black anyway. So then we ca yeah. We agreed that we would implement both the L_C_D_ and speech recognition, but I'll get to that in a moment. 'Cause some changes in the finances have left us implications anyway. So so,
Amanda Mischke: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: like I said, we had no insight in finances, no prices, but we have 'em now, and it's bad. Anyway. We are Oh. Prototype presentation, well first you guys built the prototype. So you could could present that. But um let's see what be handy to do. Nee no, you just go ahead and present the w we'll scrap it later because
Renee Sims: I think it's more or less the as we had.
Michelle Mathis: What?
Lizzie Joyce: It's basically
Amanda Mischke: Hmm?
Lizzie Joyce: what we agreed upon,
Michelle Mathis: Oh
Lizzie Joyce: but just
Michelle Mathis: that's
Lizzie Joyce: a little bit
Renee Sims: No much
Lizzie Joyce: more specified.
Renee Sims: s
Michelle Mathis: hasn't changed that much, huh?
Renee Sims: No no no, not at
Michelle Mathis: I
Renee Sims: all.
Michelle Mathis: didn't expect anyway. You just coloured it.
Lizzie Joyce: Uh s Final design.
Lizzie Joyce: Basically in what we discussed, cover and buttons will be made of rubber, yellow colour, black components, as you can see right over here.
Michelle Mathis: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: We
Michelle Mathis: I like the menu.
Lizzie Joyce: chose a different type of colour for the menu. A bit darker yellow so that it com really shows in this keypad.
Michelle Mathis: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: If you black, it's really that good a contrast. So
Michelle Mathis: And I suppose the the the yellow is not printed on the on the rubber. It's it's part of the rubber, I suppose.
Lizzie Joyce: Probab Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: I think that's more
Lizzie Joyce: That's
Michelle Mathis: I think
Lizzie Joyce: the be
Michelle Mathis: that's more durable anyway than
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: printed on to
Lizzie Joyce: And it I guess it's more easier to just paint
Renee Sims: Yeah, of course.
Lizzie Joyce: it on the rubber than to uh
Amanda Mischke: Mm
Renee Sims: That's
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Renee Sims: uh the integration story again.
Amanda Mischke: Okay.
Lizzie Joyce: So we
Michelle Mathis: Oh
Lizzie Joyce: have
Michelle Mathis: yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: it's a bit round shaped, that's what we had uh We chose the buttons to be uh teletext, okay button, favourite channel and the mute.
Michelle Mathis: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: So that's basically what we chose there.
Michelle Mathis: Okay.
Lizzie Joyce: If you have anything to add, please interrupt
Renee Sims: No,
Lizzie Joyce: Amanda Mischke.
Renee Sims: uh this is just a description of what we see there. So
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah
Lizzie Joyce: Oh.
Renee Sims: Speaks for itself.
Lizzie Joyce: That's pretty much it.
Michelle Mathis: Okay. Now it's my time to ruin everything. Well, not ruin everything, but
Lizzie Joyce: Oh
Michelle Mathis: no,
Lizzie Joyce: sorry.
Michelle Mathis: nah. Finances, that's what we have here, what you drew. We have battery power, we have advanced chips and the sam the sensor. The sample sensor and uh for speak recognition anyway. So which you see the which is de o one of the most expensive parts. So well, we have sin one curve, a design. Rubber design. And we had a special colour. Suppose yellow is a special colour. So just half a Euro for You have pushbuttons and an L_C_D_ display. You have the total of seventeen Euros in
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: production cost, which is higher than the twelve and a half that we are permitted to use. So,
Amanda Mischke: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: easy. What do we scrap. Well
Renee Sims: I
Michelle Mathis: think
Renee Sims: d
Michelle Mathis: I had the best solution that I came up with is just to s take out the speech recognition.
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: I'd say that
Michelle Mathis: Because
Lizzie Joyce: too.
Michelle Mathis: the L_C_D_ has more support on customer
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: side. There are ninety one percent of uh the people, or something like that. But ninety percent who favour an L_C_D_ display, and only sixty percent that favour speech recognition. I think it's
Lizzie Joyce: Uh we don't
Michelle Mathis: also
Lizzie Joyce: really
Michelle Mathis: harder
Lizzie Joyce: have
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: to.
Lizzie Joyce: a extra function with the speech sample, which you can't do with a normal
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: remote control, which people already do. So
Michelle Mathis: So I ju I took that out. So and so it's still stuck with thirteen, so I had to take out the special colour I suppose. And, yeah, I didn't see anything else I could take out. Yeah,
Amanda Mischke: Pushbut
Michelle Mathis: I could take out the push-buttons, but we need those.
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: So,
Amanda Mischke: Special colour,
Michelle Mathis: generally
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: what I came up with, in order to be cou to to have production cost of twelve and a half Euros, spe scrap speech recognition and the separate covers can account for the if people want it, we'll just then we'll do it in black. We'll just deliver it in black, have the it has all the function that it's supposed to have, and if you want it if you want the custom design, then you can buy the separate covers. You
Lizzie Joyce: Well,
Michelle Mathis: make it
Lizzie Joyce: I'd
Michelle Mathis: d orange
Lizzie Joyce: I tend
Michelle Mathis: or whatever
Lizzie Joyce: to
Michelle Mathis: you want.
Lizzie Joyce: disagree with you on that, because the trend issue was a big issue when
Michelle Mathis: It
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: was
Lizzie Joyce: started
Michelle Mathis: a big
Lizzie Joyce: designing
Michelle Mathis: issue, but
Lizzie Joyce: this. So can't we just
Michelle Mathis: I'll
Lizzie Joyce: basically
Michelle Mathis: just go back. Uh let's
Lizzie Joyce: extend
Michelle Mathis: just let's
Lizzie Joyce: it
Michelle Mathis: see
Lizzie Joyce: to
Michelle Mathis: what
Lizzie Joyce: thirteen?
Michelle Mathis: okay, let's just see what we no, we we have to be
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: under
Amanda Mischke: it
Michelle Mathis: twelve and a half. It
Amanda Mischke: The
Michelle Mathis: it's
Amanda Mischke: p
Michelle Mathis: not uh
Renee Sims: Okay,
Michelle Mathis: the project
Renee Sims: but there's
Michelle Mathis: is a
Renee Sims: another
Michelle Mathis: no-go
Amanda Mischke: And
Renee Sims: problem.
Michelle Mathis: if
Amanda Mischke: the
Michelle Mathis: we
Amanda Mischke: p
Michelle Mathis: go over twelve and a half,
Lizzie Joyce: Okay.
Michelle Mathis: so.
Renee Sims: But there's another
Amanda Mischke: What
Renee Sims: problem. we take cover, for instance black, then we need button, 'cause black and black doesn't work obviously.
Michelle Mathis: I think you that's what you were ass assigned to do really, to
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: to see how b th both those work together.
Renee Sims: Huh. Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So I think yeah, it's I think it's y one of the it's a good way to um to help people
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: uh to make to keep the product trendy too.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: Just keep you just make new covers for the for
Renee Sims: Right.
Michelle Mathis: it, like we agreed before.
Renee Sims: I agree.
Michelle Mathis: And everything that's left is is the basic function that uh that we want our product to have. Because the expensive parts are in either the advanced chip. But we need that for the L_C_D_
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: display.
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: We do.
Michelle Mathis: Then again, we have the L_C_D_ display, which is also expensive. B yeah, but those go together. And yeah, we could take out the curve.
Renee Sims: Or say let's
Lizzie Joyce: We
Renee Sims: lose
Lizzie Joyce: could take
Renee Sims: rubber,
Lizzie Joyce: out
Renee Sims: take
Lizzie Joyce: a
Renee Sims: plastic.
Lizzie Joyce: curve indeed.
Michelle Mathis: Could we could take out the curve. Is that an option?
Renee Sims: Yes.
Michelle Mathis: you?
Renee Sims: Although
Amanda Mischke: But uh
Renee Sims: we are
Lizzie Joyce: I
Renee Sims: demolishing
Lizzie Joyce: think the colour
Renee Sims: a
Amanda Mischke: the
Renee Sims: little
Lizzie Joyce: is
Renee Sims: bit
Lizzie Joyce: more
Renee Sims: the style.
Lizzie Joyce: important than
Renee Sims: But
Lizzie Joyce: the
Amanda Mischke: and
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: really the curve, because if you just end up with an entirely black remote
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: I think
Lizzie Joyce: control
Michelle Mathis: it's it it
Amanda Mischke: The
Michelle Mathis: does
Amanda Mischke: people
Michelle Mathis: ruin it, but
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: the fact that I t took that decision or t Took this example actually, not really decision, but the example is because we do offer the um the possibility of adding your own custom covers. So you can change any colour you want. So it's just you deliver a basic remote control with a possibility to change you into whatever you want.
Renee Sims: Can we then not also uh change the material? We take plastic for the basic cover
Michelle Mathis: You can take
Renee Sims: and
Michelle Mathis: plastic, but I d it's something that's stuck into my mind is that something that really came forward from the marketing research is that people like the the the the squishy
Amanda Mischke: Spongy,
Michelle Mathis: feeling of
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: the spongy feeling of the
Renee Sims: We can put
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: and
Renee Sims: those
Michelle Mathis: it really
Renee Sims: to the
Michelle Mathis: makes it
Renee Sims: to the other covers.
Michelle Mathis: also makes it different from the existing remote controls,
Amanda Mischke: And
Michelle Mathis: because they're all plastic.
Renee Sims: That's
Michelle Mathis: So
Renee Sims: true.
Michelle Mathis: which in in turn Rubber would increase
Renee Sims: But
Michelle Mathis: durability
Renee Sims: okay.
Michelle Mathis: because it doesn't break.
Renee Sims: But what do you then suggest we'd lose? Because we have to lose two things and I
Michelle Mathis: I
Renee Sims: guess.
Michelle Mathis: al like I said,
Amanda Mischke: But
Michelle Mathis: I lost the speech recognition
Renee Sims: Yes.
Michelle Mathis: and I lost the special colour, which would make this
Renee Sims: Okay, and that's enough?
Michelle Mathis: black a black and grey. Yeah, that's that that that's enough,
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: because
Lizzie Joyce: black and grey is okay.
Michelle Mathis: I guess those are the
Amanda Mischke: But
Michelle Mathis: basic colours. So
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: Which we can
Michelle Mathis: Oh.
Lizzie Joyce: fabricate, okay.
Amanda Mischke: The
Michelle Mathis: I think those
Amanda Mischke: people
Michelle Mathis: are basic col
Amanda Mischke: want to pay for for it, so
Michelle Mathis: They want
Amanda Mischke: why
Michelle Mathis: to
Amanda Mischke: why uh do we have to keep us uh uh um
Michelle Mathis: To
Amanda Mischke: on
Michelle Mathis: ensure
Amanda Mischke: the twelve
Michelle Mathis: the profit.
Amanda Mischke: and a half?
Michelle Mathis: That that's th that's the order. We're just uh we're the project team and we got our our orders from the pro from
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: the boss of our company which say we don't
Amanda Mischke: But
Michelle Mathis: wanna
Amanda Mischke: we
Michelle Mathis: spend
Amanda Mischke: can
Michelle Mathis: more
Amanda Mischke: take
Michelle Mathis: than
Amanda Mischke: a risk.
Michelle Mathis: twelve fifty for this. But that's not for our that's not our decision to take.
Lizzie Joyce: No, we
Michelle Mathis: We have
Lizzie Joyce: basically
Michelle Mathis: a budget
Amanda Mischke: yeah
Michelle Mathis: of twelve fifty
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: per product.
Lizzie Joyce: We
Michelle Mathis: So
Lizzie Joyce: need to stick to that.
Michelle Mathis: Stick that. I don't think it's really bad either. I mean if we we have the the backup of or the backup design thing
Amanda Mischke: I hope the people will like it, but
Michelle Mathis: to have I think they would do. Th I think they do like because yo we you we agree upon that the that the the the cover thing was a nice idea, because p you could have all sort of designs while at the same time just manufacturing one product,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: one basic product which you could turn into any any taste you want. So I think it's the best solution
Renee Sims: Perhaps
Michelle Mathis: to
Renee Sims: we should
Michelle Mathis: make
Renee Sims: make
Michelle Mathis: those
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: cu custom
Renee Sims: m
Michelle Mathis: covers for the design aspect
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: and keep the functionality between of within the th the boundaries of the your f uh your
Amanda Mischke: The first sheet.
Michelle Mathis: budget. So
Renee Sims: Perhaps we should make clear to our customer that we had to do this to stay under the cost. And that's uh they know that this is an option and that we had to drop the option to stay under the cost, that they know that.
Michelle Mathis: Well I don't think Yeah.
Renee Sims: Perhaps they
Michelle Mathis: Is it
Renee Sims: decide
Michelle Mathis: worth
Lizzie Joyce: But they
Michelle Mathis: is
Renee Sims: tha
Lizzie Joyce: don't
Michelle Mathis: it is it does it mean anything to the customer? Like, it like,
Renee Sims: Of course.
Michelle Mathis: we don't
Renee Sims: Perhaps
Michelle Mathis: care
Renee Sims: they
Michelle Mathis: we don't
Renee Sims: uh
Michelle Mathis: care that you had to
Renee Sims: no, but perhaps they think uh okay, the cover is such a nice idea, uh let's that that then they uh that allow us to make some more costs. We ca we uh we
Michelle Mathis: True,
Renee Sims: can at least
Michelle Mathis: but
Renee Sims: tell
Michelle Mathis: we did
Renee Sims: them
Michelle Mathis: we
Renee Sims: that
Michelle Mathis: didn't get that. So
Renee Sims: You don't know
Michelle Mathis: I
Renee Sims: that.
Michelle Mathis: think it's it should either be a pack,
Lizzie Joyce: Well
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: maybe we sh that should be sold in in the s in stores with with a standard cover or something.
Renee Sims: No, I'm not
Michelle Mathis: But
Renee Sims: uh talking about that cost but the one that g has given us the order to design this. We could at least m uh make it like
Michelle Mathis: They could,
Renee Sims: this,
Michelle Mathis: but
Renee Sims: like
Michelle Mathis: uh
Renee Sims: you said, and then tell them okay, we had to drop this and that, just that you know. It is an still an option, but
Michelle Mathis: It's
Renee Sims: not
Michelle Mathis: an option,
Renee Sims: for this
Michelle Mathis: but
Renee Sims: price.
Michelle Mathis: yeah, it's true. So actually uh it's not that much of an increase, but yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: And
Michelle Mathis: We
Lizzie Joyce: if
Michelle Mathis: cannot
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: contact them. It's just
Renee Sims: Exactly,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: the order that
Renee Sims: but
Michelle Mathis: we got. So that's what we gotta go with. So it's either one fi just just to get it f just to get it through final, it's either turned into plastic, drop the squishy feel, make it make it more
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: breakable,
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: um or turn it yellow. So It's uh something we have to decide on.
Renee Sims: I'd say lose the curve
Michelle Mathis: I say
Renee Sims: and
Michelle Mathis: lose
Renee Sims: the colour
Michelle Mathis: the curve.
Renee Sims: and
Michelle Mathis: Oh that's true, we could lose the c yeah, I forgot that, sorry. Uh the curve. So
Lizzie Joyce: So which curve is that ba that's basically
Michelle Mathis: That's just
Lizzie Joyce: that
Michelle Mathis: this
Lizzie Joyce: curve.
Michelle Mathis: one just d this is the banana curve.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: So
Amanda Mischke: that's
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: this
Amanda Mischke: better.
Lizzie Joyce: we could
Michelle Mathis: would
Lizzie Joyce: u
Michelle Mathis: this
Lizzie Joyce: still
Michelle Mathis: would
Lizzie Joyce: have
Michelle Mathis: be straight.
Lizzie Joyce: the comfort.
Michelle Mathis: No, uh no, that would be a curve inside the thing, I guess. No, would ju then it would just be a straight remote. Just like like that.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: Which would, yeah, turn it into something far more ordinary. we could make
Lizzie Joyce: I
Michelle Mathis: it yellow then, but
Lizzie Joyce: second that.
Michelle Mathis: You second that, you second that we lose the curve.
Lizzie Joyce: No, that it would turn out to be a pretty straight-forward remote control.
Michelle Mathis: Okay,
Lizzie Joyce: So that's
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: not really
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So I think it
Lizzie Joyce: that
Michelle Mathis: would be a good idea to keep the curve to separate it from the rest of the remote control
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: world, so to speak. So we keep the curve. So
Lizzie Joyce: I would
Michelle Mathis: the only only solution is either to use the l y lose the yellow or lose the rubber. And I'm in favour of keeping the rubber, because it has more
Renee Sims: Oh.
Michelle Mathis: more advantages
Renee Sims: I agree.
Michelle Mathis: than the colour yellow
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: has.
Lizzie Joyce: I would
Renee Sims: No.
Lizzie Joyce: say
Amanda Mischke: Yep.
Lizzie Joyce: I would agree with you on the colour, because that's an extra option, an extra service we can deliver for
Michelle Mathis: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: a little bit of more money. So
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, um I guess
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: people
Lizzie Joyce: can always
Michelle Mathis: are
Lizzie Joyce: do
Michelle Mathis: willing
Lizzie Joyce: that.
Michelle Mathis: to pay for that. So I think we can
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: take that
Renee Sims: Hmm?
Michelle Mathis: option and just with uh with the idea in the back of our head that you can customise your remote control. So
Renee Sims: Yes.
Michelle Mathis: I think that would still make it a nice product. Okay, we're final on that. So it's too bad we can't make the whole super thing. But anyways we're here. Um
Lizzie Joyce: Which
Michelle Mathis: yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: is basically what we discussed.
Michelle Mathis: This we discussed just now. That's just now just we could just discuss how the project went. I mean, was kind of
Amanda Mischke: And I want to
Michelle Mathis: I
Amanda Mischke: do
Michelle Mathis: sort
Amanda Mischke: that.
Michelle Mathis: of expected that everything would turn out this way, but because you yeah, everything cannot be for free. We didn't I think it was too bad we didn't have the financial info the last time. Because
Lizzie Joyce: Yes,
Michelle Mathis: that
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: was I th
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: it was
Lizzie Joyce: could
Michelle Mathis: really
Lizzie Joyce: have
Michelle Mathis: essential really to ma because we spent uh uh entire stage designing a product of which we had no idea what
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: it would cost. So we just
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: put something I think it's really nor not in stroke with reality actually. So
Renee Sims: Amanda Mischke too, I felt a bit blind throughout the project, because
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Renee Sims: in the beginning I had no list of
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, I
Renee Sims: available
Michelle Mathis: think
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: would
Renee Sims: materials,
Michelle Mathis: have been.
Renee Sims: and then I d
Amanda Mischke: But
Michelle Mathis: Materials
Renee Sims: had not list
Michelle Mathis: would
Renee Sims: of
Michelle Mathis: be
Renee Sims: available
Michelle Mathis: ok
Renee Sims: c finances.
Michelle Mathis: at least
Renee Sims: So
Michelle Mathis: the last meeting I would have expected had to have that. So I suppose
Amanda Mischke: Let's um see um
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, let's see if it sells. I mean I suppose this sells,
Amanda Mischke: Um
Michelle Mathis: because it's very very extended. But
Lizzie Joyce: Well I hope it
Amanda Mischke: Let's
Lizzie Joyce: sells.
Amanda Mischke: Uh
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: I suppose it sells, because it's good.
Amanda Mischke: Oh.
Michelle Mathis: I mean it's got everything for the for the reasonable price, because we didn't
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: know what it's gonna cost anyway.
Amanda Mischke: Hmm. Okay, let's eval evaluate uh the product of us, our design. Um I have some uh a method, a requirements and scale of. I uh will pre present uh some statements and we will decided together wha what if it's true or false and
Michelle Mathis: Okay.
Amanda Mischke: uh then we see uh if the requirements of the user
Michelle Mathis: Have
Amanda Mischke: are
Michelle Mathis: been
Amanda Mischke: fulfilled
Michelle Mathis: met,
Amanda Mischke: or not.
Michelle Mathis: okay.
Amanda Mischke: And I will uh make a new blank sheet.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: So so the buttons, the look and feel. I thought it was okay, but the advanced uh settings, um screen, audio and channel
Lizzie Joyce: Which are basically
Michelle Mathis: They're stuck under menu.
Lizzie Joyce: accessible
Amanda Mischke: We are not
Lizzie Joyce: through the menu
Michelle Mathis: For
Lizzie Joyce: button.
Michelle Mathis: the menu.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: I think those are totally met, because
Amanda Mischke: Oh
Michelle Mathis: we
Amanda Mischke: the menu button
Michelle Mathis: we really
Amanda Mischke: is
Michelle Mathis: took
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: it.
Michelle Mathis: them for the
Amanda Mischke: Hi
Michelle Mathis: they
Amanda Mischke: Oh, okay.
Michelle Mathis: have the feel they want, they have the simplicity they want.
Amanda Mischke: Then it's all uh
Michelle Mathis: I think it's very uh very well met. Either two
Amanda Mischke: S
Michelle Mathis: or
Renee Sims: One.
Michelle Mathis: one
Amanda Mischke: it's
Michelle Mathis: maybe.
Amanda Mischke: true.
Michelle Mathis: I think we took that everything they wanted into consideration.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So it could either be a two or a one.
Amanda Mischke: So d Oh wait.
Michelle Mathis: One and a half.
Amanda Mischke: Uh pen.
Lizzie Joyce: Which
Amanda Mischke: The
Lizzie Joyce: is not
Amanda Mischke: p
Lizzie Joyce: an option.
Amanda Mischke: Oh yeah, it's red,
Michelle Mathis: Just
Amanda Mischke: okay,
Michelle Mathis: create our
Amanda Mischke: but
Michelle Mathis: own option.
Amanda Mischke: Look and feel is everybo it's true.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: So Anyone? And the next one uh yeah, when it's
Michelle Mathis: It's
Amanda Mischke: lost
Michelle Mathis: perfect.
Amanda Mischke: uh you can find
Michelle Mathis: Even
Amanda Mischke: it.
Michelle Mathis: for deaf people,
Amanda Mischke: It's
Michelle Mathis: yeah.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: It's I don't think it's perfect, but we did everything possible to to
Lizzie Joyce: To
Michelle Mathis: get
Lizzie Joyce: make
Michelle Mathis: it back.
Lizzie Joyce: it that
Michelle Mathis: Because
Lizzie Joyce: way,
Michelle Mathis: if
Lizzie Joyce: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: it's stuck in you couch, you can see the light. Maybe you can hear it. But
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: I mean we tried, so
Amanda Mischke: And it's
Michelle Mathis: I think it that's that deserves a one.
Amanda Mischke: and it's yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Definitely.
Amanda Mischke: To. That's okay then. And the next one. How is that? Uh w we had we don't have an uh
Renee Sims: Manual.
Amanda Mischke: manual, yeah. But
Renee Sims: I
Amanda Mischke: I think
Renee Sims: think
Amanda Mischke: that's
Renee Sims: the
Amanda Mischke: a
Renee Sims: L_C_D_ display
Amanda Mischke: part of it. But
Renee Sims: could be a little
Michelle Mathis: I'd
Renee Sims: bit more
Michelle Mathis: use an
Renee Sims: difficult
Michelle Mathis: remote control.
Renee Sims: then a normal remote control,
Lizzie Joyce: Mm yeah.
Renee Sims: but then again, it's for young people. So
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, an L_C_D_, it tells a lot about uh
Renee Sims: Yeah, I
Lizzie Joyce: And
Renee Sims: th
Lizzie Joyce: it's pretty straight-forward, you have
Renee Sims: Exactly.
Michelle Mathis: It's
Lizzie Joyce: a
Michelle Mathis: pretty straight-forward,
Lizzie Joyce: navigation
Michelle Mathis: uh-huh.
Renee Sims: No,
Lizzie Joyce: no
Renee Sims: that's
Lizzie Joyce: keys
Renee Sims: true.
Lizzie Joyce: to navigate through the L_C_D_
Renee Sims: I think it won't
Lizzie Joyce: menus.
Renee Sims: be
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Renee Sims: a big problem.
Lizzie Joyce: So
Amanda Mischke: So it's a one or
Lizzie Joyce: One
Amanda Mischke: a
Lizzie Joyce: I
Amanda Mischke: I
Lizzie Joyce: d no,
Amanda Mischke: don't know.
Lizzie Joyce: actu
Michelle Mathis: I think but we didn't
Amanda Mischke: For
Michelle Mathis: even
Amanda Mischke: the advanced
Michelle Mathis: there was
Amanda Mischke: uh
Michelle Mathis: no
Amanda Mischke: settings.
Michelle Mathis: issue on making a manual actually. We didn't
Amanda Mischke: No okay,
Michelle Mathis: really
Amanda Mischke: that
Michelle Mathis: discuss
Amanda Mischke: uh that's
Michelle Mathis: it,
Amanda Mischke: true.
Michelle Mathis: but I don't think it takes no, it really does doesn't take time to learn, I think. We took
Lizzie Joyce: No,
Michelle Mathis: it
Amanda Mischke: Oh,
Michelle Mathis: s
Lizzie Joyce: it
Michelle Mathis: it's
Amanda Mischke: so
Lizzie Joyce: it
Michelle Mathis: so
Amanda Mischke: it
Lizzie Joyce: is
Michelle Mathis: easy, we
Lizzie Joyce: pretty
Michelle Mathis: have so
Lizzie Joyce: straight-forward.
Michelle Mathis: little button, everything speaks for itself really. So
Renee Sims: Ah.
Michelle Mathis: I think
Renee Sims: Um
Michelle Mathis: that's yeah, we didn't it's
Amanda Mischke: Takes
Michelle Mathis: either
Amanda Mischke: no
Michelle Mathis: two
Amanda Mischke: ti
Michelle Mathis: or one, I guess. Maybe it's a two, because d uh the L_C_D_ is a little is a little new and
Renee Sims: With
Michelle Mathis: there
Renee Sims: the
Michelle Mathis: is
Renee Sims: more
Michelle Mathis: there are some
Renee Sims: important
Michelle Mathis: option
Renee Sims: functions
Michelle Mathis: hidden under
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Renee Sims: on.
Michelle Mathis: the menu button. So I might
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: make this a two instead of a one, I
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: guess.
Amanda Mischke: And the L_C_D_, you have to see it.
Michelle Mathis: So just make that a two.
Amanda Mischke: Um mm Oh, it's a little bit learning. Okay. Uh yeah it's uh a little bit same. But
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Amanda Mischke: it tells you
Michelle Mathis: You
Amanda Mischke: or
Michelle Mathis: can use the
Amanda Mischke: not?
Michelle Mathis: L_C_D_ in a good way. I think so. I think it's perfect, the w where it is, what it can do, if it useful. I think
Amanda Mischke: But wha
Michelle Mathis: so.
Amanda Mischke: w
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Amanda Mischke: oh, yeah. What are we uh displaying on the L_C_D_ screen? Just uh only the channels and or
Renee Sims: the menus uh
Amanda Mischke: What
Renee Sims: Things
Amanda Mischke: uh?
Renee Sims: like brightness and uh those kind of things we've put in the menu, because we have no buttons for
Lizzie Joyce: Well,
Renee Sims: those.
Lizzie Joyce: basically the menu options indeed. But
Amanda Mischke: Oh, in the L_C_D_
Michelle Mathis: No, y
Amanda Mischke: screen.
Michelle Mathis: I mean
Renee Sims: Yes.
Michelle Mathis: in the L_C_D_ screen, the small screen. What
Amanda Mischke: And
Michelle Mathis: does it
Amanda Mischke: for
Michelle Mathis: display?
Amanda Mischke: a channel selection, uh or
Michelle Mathis: Well I
Amanda Mischke: that's
Michelle Mathis: thought it was
Amanda Mischke: not
Michelle Mathis: I thought it was I thought that people wanted previews on their I'm
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: not sure
Amanda Mischke: I
Michelle Mathis: if
Amanda Mischke: thought
Michelle Mathis: that even possible,
Amanda Mischke: I thought
Michelle Mathis: but
Amanda Mischke: too but yeah.
Michelle Mathis: 'cause it's this requires a quite quite a bit of band-width. I don't think it's possible really. But the
Amanda Mischke: But
Michelle Mathis: they didn't really define in what should be used for.
Amanda Mischke: Maybe
Lizzie Joyce: No.
Amanda Mischke: a T_V_ guide or something
Michelle Mathis: But I think in
Amanda Mischke: in
Michelle Mathis: for
Amanda Mischke: your
Michelle Mathis: example
Amanda Mischke: L_C_D_
Michelle Mathis: like
Renee Sims: Mm.
Amanda Mischke: uh
Michelle Mathis: T_V_ guides, I think that's
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: that th that you can transmit through it and everything. Just for extra information on your programmes.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, it must be clear
Michelle Mathis: But
Amanda Mischke: then
Michelle Mathis: also
Amanda Mischke: what
Michelle Mathis: things like
Amanda Mischke: what
Michelle Mathis: like
Amanda Mischke: what for
Michelle Mathis: like
Amanda Mischke: we
Michelle Mathis: menus
Amanda Mischke: use it.
Michelle Mathis: or p how about preferences of your uh with configuring your remote control for
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: favourite your favourite channel for example,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: how do you configure that. So that could be done by L_C_D_ display. I think it's good. No, maybe it's not a one because it's we're not using it perfectly. We didn't give it I don't thing over-discussing. Now we gave it enough thought though.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: I think we d should just lower this. Maybe maybe it's a three though. We could've used it more effectively probably.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, indeed. So everybody's agree with an uh three on it, it's
Renee Sims: Yes.
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, we
Lizzie Joyce: Two
Michelle Mathis: are using
Lizzie Joyce: or
Amanda Mischke: W
Michelle Mathis: it, but
Lizzie Joyce: three.
Michelle Mathis: it's not
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: it's not poorly used, but it's not efficiently used, I think. We could have ev even lost the selection button and uh done everything via L_C_D_ selection.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: It's now it's just extra to illustrate im
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: uh
Amanda Mischke: I
Michelle Mathis: extra features, but okay.
Amanda Mischke: A three.
Renee Sims: Nah, it's not really only an extra.
Lizzie Joyce: You
Amanda Mischke: Ah,
Renee Sims: No
Lizzie Joyce: can
Renee Sims: menus.
Amanda Mischke: nothing,
Renee Sims: Think about
Amanda Mischke: that's
Lizzie Joyce: seven.
Amanda Mischke: A seven. Uh that's uh
Michelle Mathis: Can you talk
Lizzie Joyce: Or
Michelle Mathis: to
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: remote
Lizzie Joyce: could
Michelle Mathis: control?
Lizzie Joyce: say
Michelle Mathis: Well,
Lizzie Joyce: it
Michelle Mathis: it can't talk anymore.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So we scrap that.
Lizzie Joyce: Or we could say neutral, we
Michelle Mathis: Oh yeah
Lizzie Joyce: 'cause we scratched the
Michelle Mathis: Just
Lizzie Joyce: C
Michelle Mathis: to be a prick, but of course you can talk
Amanda Mischke: Yeah
Michelle Mathis: to your remote control, it doesn't do
Amanda Mischke: yeah
Michelle Mathis: anything. But
Amanda Mischke: yeah
Michelle Mathis: you
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: c you can talk to
Amanda Mischke: Not
Michelle Mathis: it.
Amanda Mischke: with the speech recognition. Uh yeah, all the trends and no colours uh anymore. So
Michelle Mathis: Well, we did take everything into consideration of course. Uh the
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: shape i shape
Amanda Mischke: uh
Michelle Mathis: is i
Amanda Mischke: um
Michelle Mathis: I think
Amanda Mischke: only
Michelle Mathis: we
Amanda Mischke: in the
Michelle Mathis: yeah,
Amanda Mischke: curves.
Michelle Mathis: I think that's okay.
Amanda Mischke: But the colours, we don't have special
Lizzie Joyce: No,
Amanda Mischke: colours
Lizzie Joyce: we
Amanda Mischke: on
Lizzie Joyce: don't
Amanda Mischke: it.
Lizzie Joyce: have the colour.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: special
Lizzie Joyce: I
Michelle Mathis: co but we took into consideration the fact that it's customisable
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, but
Michelle Mathis: to the
Amanda Mischke: we
Michelle Mathis: fashi
Lizzie Joyce: Yes, but
Amanda Mischke: yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: the
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: we don't have
Lizzie Joyce: end
Amanda Mischke: it,
Lizzie Joyce: product
Amanda Mischke: so d
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: We don't have it we
Amanda Mischke: In
Michelle Mathis: do have
Amanda Mischke: the end
Michelle Mathis: it,
Amanda Mischke: product.
Michelle Mathis: it's
Renee Sims: But
Michelle Mathis: just sold as a package. It does it's not
Renee Sims: M
Michelle Mathis: part of the basic product.
Renee Sims: Changing covers is also trend that
Michelle Mathis: It
Renee Sims: we followed.
Michelle Mathis: that that's what I call trendy. I mean the shape is trendy. The the sh the the functions are trendy. It's just the colours that are not supporting the basic model.
Amanda Mischke: Now
Michelle Mathis: Because you ha it's just not affordable
Amanda Mischke: But it's
Lizzie Joyce: Maybe
Amanda Mischke: not a
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: at
Amanda Mischke: one.
Lizzie Joyce: should
Michelle Mathis: the moment.
Lizzie Joyce: go with a two then, because it's not perfect,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: because we can't do it initially, but
Amanda Mischke: Oh.
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: It's possible,
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: but you have to pay extra for the for the possibility of having it in a f a different colour.
Amanda Mischke: Oh well Oops.
Amanda Mischke: Oh it's a two, right?
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Amanda Mischke: On the last one. Uh that n that's
Lizzie Joyce: Overall
Michelle Mathis: Overall
Amanda Mischke: all.
Michelle Mathis: score.
Lizzie Joyce: score.
Amanda Mischke: Overall. It's um
Michelle Mathis: One two
Amanda Mischke: ten,
Michelle Mathis: three. sixteen.
Amanda Mischke: sixteen three uh
Michelle Mathis: Two two point
Amanda Mischke: two
Michelle Mathis: some
Amanda Mischke: two
Michelle Mathis: two
Amanda Mischke: point
Michelle Mathis: point something.
Amanda Mischke: seven
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: or something like that. I don't know why.
Lizzie Joyce: Ten, sixteen, divided by
Renee Sims: Six.
Amanda Mischke: Six.
Lizzie Joyce: Is two two third.
Michelle Mathis: Two and two thirds.
Amanda Mischke: Um So we can say it's it's the product is it's okay.
Michelle Mathis: It's okay,
Amanda Mischke: Y
Michelle Mathis: but
Amanda Mischke: not
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: that's yo m mostly
Lizzie Joyce: There's
Michelle Mathis: it's it's influenced by the fact that we didn't have enough resources to implement speech recognition.
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: 'Cause yeah, that gives you a seven, which ruins your your average.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Without that it would be like under it wouldn't yeah, it would be under two. So I think we have
Amanda Mischke: Woah.
Michelle Mathis: even with this it's reasonable.
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah, if we make it into a four, as in neutral, because we didn't implement it, so we can't say that we
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: that it's really not well implemented. We come out on a average of two one eighth.
Michelle Mathis: Well I think it's two is okay.
Lizzie Joyce: So which is pretty w
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: good.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, two is
Lizzie Joyce: It's
Michelle Mathis: pretty
Lizzie Joyce: at
Michelle Mathis: good.
Lizzie Joyce: least on the positive side. So
Renee Sims: Hmm,
Michelle Mathis: Definitely.
Lizzie Joyce: We
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Renee Sims: of
Lizzie Joyce: could
Renee Sims: course.
Lizzie Joyce: definitely have done better if we've had more resources, but
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, I think it's
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: probably
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: I I do admit that we d did miss a little or didn't sp didn't talk talk enough about the possibility of the L_C_D_ display. We could
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: have used it more efficiently, we just didn't think of it that
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: way.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, with.
Lizzie Joyce: True.
Michelle Mathis: So like I said, changing
Amanda Mischke: The scale.
Michelle Mathis: channels, everything hidden in your L_C_D_ display, so you just need the navigation buttons to do everything.
Renee Sims: But I think for this price, this is it's really a reasonable product.
Michelle Mathis: I
Renee Sims: It's
Michelle Mathis: think
Renee Sims: a good
Michelle Mathis: we
Renee Sims: product.
Michelle Mathis: div I think we did very well, uh ev even
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: if you look at this score, we did quite well.
Amanda Mischke: With
Renee Sims: Oh.
Amanda Mischke: an L_C_D_ screen.
Michelle Mathis: It just looking for improvements what what
Renee Sims: Oh.
Michelle Mathis: you could have improved.
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So.
Renee Sims: But if pep people really want speech recognition, then they must be prepared to pu to pay more, because it's
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Renee Sims: cannot
Michelle Mathis: They sh
Renee Sims: be
Amanda Mischke: you
Renee Sims: done
Amanda Mischke: can
Renee Sims: for
Amanda Mischke: make
Michelle Mathis: they should
Renee Sims: this.
Amanda Mischke: 'em another
Michelle Mathis: get kids,
Amanda Mischke: one.
Michelle Mathis: and just stick 'em in T_V_ and say change
Renee Sims: Hmm
Michelle Mathis: the channel.
Renee Sims: yeah. Ah but for this price uh you cannot ask that.
Michelle Mathis: I don' think
Renee Sims: You
Michelle Mathis: so.
Renee Sims: cannot
Michelle Mathis: Uh
Renee Sims: th
Michelle Mathis: it's just
Renee Sims: think
Michelle Mathis: not
Renee Sims: of
Michelle Mathis: it
Renee Sims: that
Michelle Mathis: it's not affordable.
Renee Sims: No,
Michelle Mathis: Or your
Renee Sims: it's
Michelle Mathis: sh
Renee Sims: not.
Michelle Mathis: you should lose the L_C_D_ screen probably, but I think
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: that's I think the L_C_D_ screen is more worth than speech
Renee Sims: Oh
Michelle Mathis: recognition.
Renee Sims: It's also more attractive.
Michelle Mathis: Definitely. Okay, that was that.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah. Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So that's the final
Lizzie Joyce: So
Michelle Mathis: product
Lizzie Joyce: did you
Michelle Mathis: without the speakers, I guess. Let's see, what was left in the the Another one.
Michelle Mathis: Hmm. Yeah, we evaluate the product. General project, what's i in For example, I thou I thought we were pretty creative in what we created. We took the whole new approach of making exchangeable cover for example, which I thought was pretty creative, because it was never never ever listed somewhere.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: Favourite channel.
Michelle Mathis: Well Anyways. Yeah, leadership is up to you. I mean perhaps I screwed up because I d put a put a speech recognition into it. But that's not for
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: Amanda Mischke to decide.
Amanda Mischke: I know.
Michelle Mathis: I think
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: we did pretty well as team-work though. Because, yeah
Renee Sims: Yes.
Michelle Mathis: was very hard to work with one another if you cannot
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: communicate in the meantime, because
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: when
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: I got
Amanda Mischke: you're
Michelle Mathis: the when
Amanda Mischke: working
Michelle Mathis: I got the
Amanda Mischke: separate.
Michelle Mathis: input for the financial results,
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: initially of course I wanted to contact you. Say, look,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: this is
Renee Sims: Huh.
Michelle Mathis: you're doing the wrong thing, you're s you're wasting your time now, because we're implementing
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: stuff that
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: we cannot
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: yeah
Michelle Mathis: afford.
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: it would be better if y if there was more communication between
Amanda Mischke: Yeah yeah
Michelle Mathis: uh
Amanda Mischke: yeah. Direct
Lizzie Joyce: And we
Michelle Mathis: because
Lizzie Joyce: could
Michelle Mathis: that's
Lizzie Joyce: share
Amanda Mischke: uh communication
Michelle Mathis: that's
Lizzie Joyce: information
Michelle Mathis: what would w you what
Amanda Mischke: with
Lizzie Joyce: which
Michelle Mathis: you would
Lizzie Joyce: we
Michelle Mathis: normally
Lizzie Joyce: received.
Michelle Mathis: do,
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: either call or email someone. So
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: that was too bad con was impossible here anyways.
Renee Sims: That's the same thing that I had in the beginning. Everybody was using materials that s I didn't have. So
Michelle Mathis: It didn't
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: have or didn't knew what they costs
Renee Sims: Oh.
Michelle Mathis: or whatever. There was just
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: too little information about what things actually cost and
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: if you could use them. So that was a little unclear I suppose. I think a SMARTboard SMARTboard is pretty cool. I think uh s especially for design issues,
Amanda Mischke: My handwriting
Michelle Mathis: it's very
Amanda Mischke: is
Michelle Mathis: easy
Amanda Mischke: little
Michelle Mathis: just
Amanda Mischke: bit
Michelle Mathis: to
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: give your give your thoughts a little
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: it's easier to share them.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: Although for actual design I'd say
Michelle Mathis: It's
Lizzie Joyce: the
Michelle Mathis: a little
Lizzie Joyce: response
Michelle Mathis: less
Lizzie Joyce: time
Michelle Mathis: it the
Lizzie Joyce: should
Michelle Mathis: response time
Lizzie Joyce: be
Michelle Mathis: is
Lizzie Joyce: a
Michelle Mathis: le
Lizzie Joyce: little bit
Michelle Mathis: it's
Lizzie Joyce: higher,
Michelle Mathis: very bad.
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: because
Michelle Mathis: It's good to visualise everything, but I think the response time should could be a lot better.
Lizzie Joyce: The digital
Amanda Mischke: But
Lizzie Joyce: pen
Amanda Mischke: th
Lizzie Joyce: was
Amanda Mischke: that's
Lizzie Joyce: definitely better to draw my
Michelle Mathis: Definitely.
Lizzie Joyce: ideas
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: and to
Michelle Mathis: Yeah,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, okay.
Lizzie Joyce: further
Michelle Mathis: it's
Lizzie Joyce: elaborate
Michelle Mathis: true.
Lizzie Joyce: on that. So
Renee Sims: But there's uh also one problem with this I noticed. Uh you have to finish a page before
Michelle Mathis: No, you don't
Renee Sims: going
Michelle Mathis: have
Renee Sims: to a
Michelle Mathis: to.
Renee Sims: n
Amanda Mischke: No.
Michelle Mathis: No, you don't. I jin
Amanda Mischke: You
Renee Sims: Oh.
Michelle Mathis: I
Amanda Mischke: can
Michelle Mathis: didn't check the finish button. I just you just ditch
Amanda Mischke: Done
Michelle Mathis: it and
Amanda Mischke: and
Michelle Mathis: you
Amanda Mischke: then
Michelle Mathis: can
Amanda Mischke: it's
Michelle Mathis: copy
Amanda Mischke: okay.
Michelle Mathis: it or whatever.
Renee Sims: Okay, I saw that uh
Michelle Mathis: Uh only if you uh check the notes or press done. Then it um then you can then it exports to Word
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: automatically. But it's not necessary to check either one of those two. You
Renee Sims: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: can
Renee Sims: but
Michelle Mathis: just
Renee Sims: I made
Michelle Mathis: preview
Amanda Mischke: Oh,
Michelle Mathis: your p you
Amanda Mischke: okay.
Michelle Mathis: can just preview your page in the in the programme.
Renee Sims: Okay,
Amanda Mischke: Okay,
Renee Sims: but I made three pages
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Renee Sims: and they were not finished. And when the third one was finished, I wanted to download it and then it was not possible anymore, because you have to close all the pinnits uh the pages before going further.
Michelle Mathis: Okay, before starting
Amanda Mischke: Okay.
Michelle Mathis: a ne a new page. Okay,
Renee Sims: Exactly.
Michelle Mathis: that could
Renee Sims: So
Michelle Mathis: be
Renee Sims: we cannot
Michelle Mathis: b.
Renee Sims: work on more
Amanda Mischke: Oh.
Renee Sims: than one page at same time. That's not possible.
Amanda Mischke: Hmm.
Renee Sims: You
Michelle Mathis: Okay.
Renee Sims: have to finish
Lizzie Joyce: Oh can
Renee Sims: it completely,
Lizzie Joyce: you?
Renee Sims: then
Lizzie Joyce: Okay.
Renee Sims: download it, it's then start a new one.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, okay.
Renee Sims: That's not very uh handy, but
Michelle Mathis: That's
Renee Sims: if you know that, then
Michelle Mathis: Yeah,
Renee Sims: it's not a
Michelle Mathis: it's
Renee Sims: problem.
Michelle Mathis: understandable, okay. Any new ideas? Yeah, more communication between between uh that's the thing I noticed, that communication is very um
Amanda Mischke: Important
Michelle Mathis: very
Amanda Mischke: to mm
Michelle Mathis: important, because if you get new information, it's essential f for the other team-mates to know that as soon as possible, because you would avoid making doing extra work, because you were doing extra work now uh m working on the on the speech recognition,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: you have limitation both on the technical on the d on the design side. So I think that could have been better. But that's I think it's more of a a setting here that you cannot communicate
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: than uh than somewhere else. So
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah, well it could also possibly be well, is it a more real-time information base, so we can all see
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, I think so. And l less
Lizzie Joyce: which
Michelle Mathis: p
Lizzie Joyce: information
Michelle Mathis: less spam
Lizzie Joyce: is available
Michelle Mathis: probably. I'm
Lizzie Joyce: to
Michelle Mathis: not
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Lizzie Joyce: one
Michelle Mathis: sure
Lizzie Joyce: another.
Michelle Mathis: i I'm not sure you got spammed as well, but I get spammed like every t every two minutes there
Renee Sims: Ah.
Michelle Mathis: was a there
Renee Sims: Well
Michelle Mathis: was another email about master classes or something. So
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: which were totally useless actually. I thought I should probably look into them, but they were all useless. So I just
Lizzie Joyce: Well, I personally
Amanda Mischke: Mm
Lizzie Joyce: did not have that, but
Michelle Mathis: Oh okay.
Lizzie Joyce: That's probably your l description. But I also didn't not really. But still, you had that as well.
Renee Sims: Huh.
Lizzie Joyce: Is that we finished up the design and then we checked the website, and
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: then there
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: was
Amanda Mischke: after
Lizzie Joyce: just extra information.
Amanda Mischke: After five minutes, uh
Renee Sims: Yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: There was a little delay in the
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: bit
Michelle Mathis: I didn't have
Lizzie Joyce: of a
Michelle Mathis: any
Lizzie Joyce: c
Michelle Mathis: uh more information, it's just
Lizzie Joyce: crucial
Michelle Mathis: always
Lizzie Joyce: delay.
Michelle Mathis: the same here.
Renee Sims: Mm.
Michelle Mathis: So that's that's kind of a
Amanda Mischke: Email uh
Michelle Mathis: It would change, but not for Amanda Mischke. So I'd I had no extra information to go
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: on that one than what you give Amanda Mischke
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: actually. I couldn't do any research myself or
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: I see, that's yeah, w I could have done a little extra work probably, then
Amanda Mischke: it's
Michelle Mathis: But I was busy enough anyway. So
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Any new ideas found? Or is that a 'cause
Renee Sims: No.
Michelle Mathis: uh yeah, it's well, probably
Lizzie Joyce: How much
Michelle Mathis: is.
Lizzie Joyce: time do we have for this anyway?
Michelle Mathis: I have no clue. That's like oh,but it Should i if the project is evaluated and it was it was in b within budget, we should celebrate. So
Renee Sims: Okay, bring out the beer.
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah. Champagne.
Michelle Mathis: Uh okay,
Amanda Mischke: I want one
Michelle Mathis: think that's
Amanda Mischke: for
Michelle Mathis: about
Amanda Mischke: my own.
Michelle Mathis: it. Uh I'm not sure what we should still do though uh t let's see what all your tasks were finished, right?
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: What you ha
Renee Sims: I have
Michelle Mathis: from
Renee Sims: no
Michelle Mathis: your
Renee Sims: more email.
Michelle Mathis: assistant. So
Renee Sims: My
Michelle Mathis: let's
Renee Sims: coach is uh being very silent now.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: Okay,
Amanda Mischke: my
Michelle Mathis: I
Amanda Mischke: personal
Michelle Mathis: should
Amanda Mischke: coach
Michelle Mathis: I think
Amanda Mischke: i
Michelle Mathis: I sh I still have the the total report to finish up. I think we took very little time now, because Yeah, we're in agreement, everything the design is okay. The one thing we missed though, we don't
Amanda Mischke: What
Michelle Mathis: have a product name. How about you
Renee Sims: we
Lizzie Joyce: Product
Michelle Mathis: cook a how
Renee Sims: haven't
Lizzie Joyce: name.
Renee Sims: think
Michelle Mathis: about
Renee Sims: above
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: you
Renee Sims: about
Michelle Mathis: cook
Renee Sims: that.
Michelle Mathis: up a product
Amanda Mischke: name.
Michelle Mathis: name?
Renee Sims: Huh. It's better than thi I think than a serial number. Sony uh T_R_ something uh
Amanda Mischke: Or
Renee Sims: f
Michelle Mathis: Just
Amanda Mischke: fruit
Renee Sims: means nothing
Amanda Mischke: name.
Renee Sims: to Amanda Mischke.
Michelle Mathis: oh, think of a catchy name.
Renee Sims: Uh
Michelle Mathis: I'll be working on this until the beep until it beeps. So
Renee Sims: Like fruit names.
Amanda Mischke: Fruit name or something like that. The
Michelle Mathis: What?
Amanda Mischke: banana
Michelle Mathis: Fruit?
Amanda Mischke: remote or something.
Michelle Mathis: You don't want
Amanda Mischke: I
Michelle Mathis: it to
Amanda Mischke: don't
Michelle Mathis: resemble
Amanda Mischke: know.
Michelle Mathis: a banana.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, it's the form
Lizzie Joyce: The
Amanda Mischke: of
Michelle Mathis: It's
Lizzie Joyce: bana
Amanda Mischke: it.
Michelle Mathis: not yellow anyway.
Lizzie Joyce: 'cause it's not yellow
Amanda Mischke: Yeah
Lizzie Joyce: anymore.
Michelle Mathis: It's not
Amanda Mischke: oh,
Michelle Mathis: yellow anymore.
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Michelle Mathis: It is curved, but
Amanda Mischke: Uh yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: Well,
Amanda Mischke: Uh
Lizzie Joyce: uh I was going for the R_C_ deluxe, but it's not really a catchy name or anything, it's more
Michelle Mathis: No, it's
Renee Sims: Uh
Michelle Mathis: Hmm.
Renee Sims: at least it's not something with numbers. Numbers are so meaningless to the
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Renee Sims: people. I mean.
Lizzie Joyce: Something
Amanda Mischke: That's true.
Lizzie Joyce: with our company name, can we do anything with that?
Amanda Mischke: Reaction,
Lizzie Joyce: Maybe there's something
Amanda Mischke: Real
Lizzie Joyce: on
Amanda Mischke: Reaction.
Lizzie Joyce: the website which will help us out.
Renee Sims: Real Reaction.
Lizzie Joyce: The reaction
Michelle Mathis: Real Reaction
Lizzie Joyce: deluxe.
Michelle Mathis: future R_C_. Step into the future of of remote controlling your T_V_.
Lizzie Joyce: Is that a name or a c
Michelle Mathis: No
Lizzie Joyce: campaign?
Michelle Mathis: that's a that's a catchy slogan.
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah. Or
Michelle Mathis: Control
Lizzie Joyce: the
Michelle Mathis: your remote control.
Lizzie Joyce: The real reactor.
Renee Sims: Real react.
Michelle Mathis: I go for future R_C_ probably. Something like It's
Renee Sims: The
Michelle Mathis: short
Renee Sims: Real Reactor,
Michelle Mathis: f
Renee Sims: I don't find that uh that bad at all.
Michelle Mathis: Real reactor?
Renee Sims: Yeah. Because
Michelle Mathis: Uh
Renee Sims: our
Michelle Mathis: that
Renee Sims: name
Michelle Mathis: that's
Renee Sims: is Real Reaction.
Lizzie Joyce: a an option.
Michelle Mathis: That makes Amanda Mischke think of different products than a remote control really. I'm not sure. Real reaction in a real
Amanda Mischke: Zapping. The
Lizzie Joyce: So that's one option.
Michelle Mathis: Real reactor.
Michelle Mathis: Didn't notice.
Renee Sims: I'm looking for things in the name.
Michelle Mathis: Mm.
Renee Sims: So that the first three letters are s
Lizzie Joyce: Should I
Renee Sims: the
Lizzie Joyce: write
Renee Sims: same.
Lizzie Joyce: the banana
Renee Sims: R_E_A_
Lizzie Joyce: down
Renee Sims: R_E_A_.
Lizzie Joyce: or
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, sure.
Michelle Mathis: I take f yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: Sure?
Michelle Mathis: take a banana.
Amanda Mischke: The banana.
Michelle Mathis: Hmm.
Amanda Mischke: Remote. Banana recei
Renee Sims: The triple
Amanda Mischke: R_C_.
Renee Sims: R_. Real Reaction remotes
Amanda Mischke: Remote.
Renee Sims: control.
Lizzie Joyce: Well I
Renee Sims: Triple R_.
Amanda Mischke: R_ three C_.
Lizzie Joyce: Uh do you mean it like
Amanda Mischke: R_ three C_.
Renee Sims: yeah.
Lizzie Joyce: You mean it like this?
Renee Sims: Yeah, that.
Amanda Mischke: Real Reaction Remote Control. R_ three C_. Oh yeah.
Michelle Mathis: No, not like that. It should be it should be longer, because it's not a product name that you f
Renee Sims: I
Michelle Mathis: print
Renee Sims: think
Michelle Mathis: on a box.
Renee Sims: triple R_. Doesn't
Michelle Mathis: Just
Renee Sims: sound?
Michelle Mathis: write out triple,
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, triple
Michelle Mathis: like a word
Amanda Mischke: R_.
Michelle Mathis: triple R_C_, triple
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: stripe Oh. Triple
Amanda Mischke: Triple
Renee Sims: Ah.
Michelle Mathis: dash
Amanda Mischke: R_C_.
Michelle Mathis: R_ dash s s C_.
Amanda Mischke: The triple R_C_, yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: R_ s R_ three C_.
Michelle Mathis: R_ dash C_.
Lizzie Joyce: Dash
Renee Sims: I
Lizzie Joyce: C_?
Renee Sims: think I like it
Michelle Mathis: Dash.
Renee Sims: like this more.
Michelle Mathis: Triple R_ or triple R_C_?
Lizzie Joyce: Like a
Amanda Mischke: Triple
Lizzie Joyce: C_ right
Amanda Mischke: R_ dash.
Lizzie Joyce: now or a dash in a C_?
Michelle Mathis: How about do both? Sure if it looks stupid. Uh I think that the the R_C_ together takes away the the the image of it's a triple
Renee Sims: Hmm.
Michelle Mathis: Uh the first the
Renee Sims: Mm.
Michelle Mathis: first one looks like it's a triple
Amanda Mischke: That
Michelle Mathis: remote control, but it's only a single remote control. And it's especially on the triple R_ that's important.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Renee Sims: I
Michelle Mathis: The Real
Renee Sims: would
Michelle Mathis: Reaction
Amanda Mischke: this
Michelle Mathis: Remote.
Renee Sims: huh.
Amanda Mischke: yeah.
Renee Sims: I would lose the C_ and just name it triple
Lizzie Joyce: Is it triple
Renee Sims: R_.
Lizzie Joyce: R_C_s? No.
Renee Sims: It sounds like uh thinking about two
Amanda Mischke: Triple
Renee Sims: different
Amanda Mischke: remote.
Renee Sims: things and combining it. I would just say triple R_s triple R_
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: Yeah,
Lizzie Joyce: Well,
Michelle Mathis: triple
Lizzie Joyce: that's another
Michelle Mathis: R_
Lizzie Joyce: option.
Michelle Mathis: yeah, you can
Renee Sims: That's also short,
Amanda Mischke: It's okay.
Renee Sims: catchy.
Lizzie Joyce: Okay,
Michelle Mathis: Yeah, triple
Lizzie Joyce: so which
Michelle Mathis: R_.
Lizzie Joyce: ones are we going to scratch definitely?
Amanda Mischke: The banana.
Renee Sims: Banana.
Michelle Mathis: Banana
Amanda Mischke: Banana.
Michelle Mathis: remote.
Lizzie Joyce: I say this one as well.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, the deluxe.
Michelle Mathis: I think we're all in agreement about the triple R_. I think
Renee Sims: Yes.
Amanda Mischke: The
Michelle Mathis: triple R_
Amanda Mischke: r
Lizzie Joyce: Triple
Michelle Mathis: is cool.
Lizzie Joyce: R_?
Amanda Mischke: triple R_.
Lizzie Joyce: Triple
Michelle Mathis: And it
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: looks
Lizzie Joyce: R_
Michelle Mathis: cool
Lizzie Joyce: it is.
Michelle Mathis: when you print it in font, looks pretty cool.
Renee Sims: did you do now?
Michelle Mathis: Just like this just and you just print triple R_,
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: it looks doesn't look bad, it's short, it's okay.
Renee Sims: Yeah.
Michelle Mathis: So have to write my report now, I guess. Um Um Yeah, so we have everything. We have the product, we have the costs,
Renee Sims: Yep.
Michelle Mathis: we have
Amanda Mischke: It can't
Michelle Mathis: the
Amanda Mischke: work.
Michelle Mathis: possibility
Amanda Mischke: That will not
Michelle Mathis: of everything. Okay. I think it's adjourned. Retire to my lair and finish the report. That was a short meeting.
Renee Sims: Mm-hmm.
Michelle Mathis: But efficient though.
Renee Sims: The boss is always the last one to go home. So
Michelle Mathis: Probably. See. Okay,
Amanda Mischke: Okay.
Michelle Mathis: goodbye.
Renee Sims: See you in a minute.
Amanda Mischke: Damn. I will write that one in a Word uh document.
Renee Sims: Okay.
Michelle Mathis: Could you guys draw Amanda Mischke a picture of the final design to put on the cover of the
Lizzie Joyce: Yeah,
Michelle Mathis: report?
Lizzie Joyce: sure.
Renee Sims: Can't we take this one?
Amanda Mischke: Oh sh
Renee Sims: Otherwise we have to
Amanda Mischke: Um
Renee Sims: do it all over again.
Lizzie Joyce: I don't really know whether we can save it as a picture or no.
Renee Sims: Is it okay if I try? Is that okay with
Lizzie Joyce: Sure.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah,
Renee Sims: you?
Amanda Mischke: okay, I will ask you when uh
Renee Sims: I'll put it
Amanda Mischke: I
Renee Sims: back
Amanda Mischke: need
Renee Sims: in
Amanda Mischke: the
Renee Sims: a minute.
Amanda Mischke: information. So it's oh.
Renee Sims: Okay, it has been saving something, but
Amanda Mischke: Uh
Renee Sims: where to I don't know.
Amanda Mischke: Oh. Merge.
Renee Sims: Oh, can I say exp yes, I can.
Amanda Mischke: Sucks.
Renee Sims: Export as J_ PEG.
Renee Sims: Okay, can I not put this wherever I wants. My document is the wrong one, huh.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah, but
Renee Sims: I cannot.
Lizzie Joyce: Network
Amanda Mischke: I don't know.
Lizzie Joyce: places.
Amanda Mischke: Smart no. Ma it's maybe it's not on the network of uh the rest.
Renee Sims: I don't think so.
Amanda Mischke: That one is.
Renee Sims: Document and settings.
Lizzie Joyce: I wouldn't pick that one, no.
Renee Sims: That's a pity. That means that we have to gonna draw it again. Are you gonna do that?
Lizzie Joyce: Sure.
Renee Sims: Okay.
Lizzie Joyce: Oh.
Renee Sims: That Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes, that's correct.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah. Okay.
Renee Sims: Okay. No. Oh, it's export.
Amanda Mischke: Oh yeah,
Renee Sims: Okay.
Amanda Mischke: Can I see scores? Uh,
Renee Sims: Oh, of course. Sorry.
Amanda Mischke: one one, two threes, two Okay, then we'll overall, two points. Yes.
Lizzie Joyce: I see you later.
Amanda Mischke: Yeah.
Amanda Mischke: Mm. | Lizzie Joyce and Renee Sims presented a prototype drawing of the remote control design. The rubber case is yellow with black buttons and dark yellow for the menus. There are buttons for teletext, favourite channel, mute and OK. It incorporates both LCD screen and speech recognition. The prototype proved over budget (17 euros). The main contributing factors were the LCD and speech recognition. The latter was taken out, along with the special colour. Everyone agreed that the financial information should not have been given to them at the last moment. After the costing, the original prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad). The criteria used were look and feel (1), whether it is easy to find (1), whether it is easy to learn (2), use of LCD (3), speech recognition (7), trendiness (2). Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (satisfactory), leadership and teamwork (happy with it, but they missed communicating in between meetings), and means (SMARTboard could be improved in terms of response time, the digital pens could not be used on more than one page at the same time). Finally, the decided to call their design Triple-R. | 2 | amisum | test |
Ricardo Walko: Okay, well I think we're ready to begin Right. my name's Adam Duguid, we're here because of real reaction, um, we have in the group
Eric Bergesen: Oh, Ebenezer Ademesoye. Would you Eric Bergesen to that S
Ricardo Walko: Um, yeah, go for it mate.
Eric Bergesen: Um, N_E_Z_
Ricardo Walko: N_ E_ Z_.
Eric Bergesen: E_R_.
Ricardo Walko: Ebenezer. And your role is?
Eric Bergesen: I'm Eric Bergesen.
Ricardo Walko: You're Eric Bergesen, okay. Next we have?
Michael Pridgeon: Tarik Rahman. T_A_R_I_K_.
Ricardo Walko: T_ R_ I_ K_. And your role in this is?
Michael Pridgeon: Industrial Designer.
Ricardo Walko: Industrial Designer. And, lastly we have?
David Willard: Uh, Dave Cochrane.
Ricardo Walko: And you're going to be the User Interface,
David Willard: User
Ricardo Walko: is
David Willard: Interface
Ricardo Walko: it?
David Willard: Defin
Ricardo Walko: Designer. Okay.
David Willard: yes.
Ricardo Walko: Right. This is the agenda for today's meeting. As you can see, w opening, acquaintance, tool training, project plan discussion, and closing. Um, we already got n through opening, and partially through acquaintance. So, the reason we're here, we're gonna design a new remote control, as you probably all know. The very broad overview is original, trendy, and user-friendly. Course, we'll have to go into a bit more um detail than that, but uh personally I think that the original is gonna be a very key aspect to this design. Um, there's a lot of remote controls out there anyway, so we're gonna need something that's really gonna set it apart. This is how today seems to be going to work. We're gonna have the three kay phases, as you've probably already been told, the functional, architectural, and the detailed design. Um First one's gonna be covering the user requirement spec, technical functions, working design. Second seems to be conceptual components, properties, materials, and the last one is a detailed analysis of our design so far. Of course, you've all got the similar emails, I believe, right. What can I say? Ebenezer, you wanna have a you wanna draw your favourite animal?
Eric Bergesen: Sure. Whiteboard. 'Kay. S okay. I will make this quick, since we don't have much time. Um.
Eric Bergesen: 'Kay, so it's not the best picture in the world. Here we have an elephant. First point, begins with an E_, same like Ebenezer. Also, elephants have a very good memory, much like myself, and I can't remember but I think I used to have a pet elephant. So elephants are big, strong and gentle, and they have great memories, and they begin with the letter E_, just like Ebenezer.
Ricardo Walko: Brilliantly done.
Eric Bergesen: Thank
Ricardo Walko: Thank
Eric Bergesen: you.
Ricardo Walko: you. Tarik, would you like to have a shot at a bit of artistry?
Eric Bergesen: Oh.
Ricardo Walko: Oh, um,
Eric Bergesen: Oh
Ricardo Walko: you
Michael Pridgeon: Do
Ricardo Walko: can
Michael Pridgeon: we take
Ricardo Walko: clip
Michael Pridgeon: them
Ricardo Walko: them
Michael Pridgeon: off?
Ricardo Walko: to your belt.
Eric Bergesen: oh I think you
Michael Pridgeon: Oh right,
Eric Bergesen: ga
Michael Pridgeon: okay.
Ricardo Walko: You should also l um
Eric Bergesen: The
Ricardo Walko: have your the
Eric Bergesen: little
Ricardo Walko: lapel mic on as well.
Michael Pridgeon: Ah-ha.
Eric Bergesen: The the Oh that's good, we can clip them on. Okay. Yeah, there
Michael Pridgeon: Now where do I put the
Eric Bergesen: Just um somewhere
Ricardo Walko: Yep, the, it's just across there, that's it. Yep.
Michael Pridgeon: Is this supposed to be clipped as well?
Eric Bergesen: I think so.
Ricardo Walko: Yeah. It'll follow you if you
Eric Bergesen: Yeah. There you go.
Ricardo Walko: You can probably just stick it in your pocket for now, I wouldn't worry too much. Should have good range.
Michael Pridgeon: Uh, destroying your elephant here.
Michael Pridgeon: Uh, here we have a tiger. Uh I've always loved tigers. They're just they're big, they're biggest cats, uh I did a project on cats in the wild when I was a kid, just 'cause it was looks the best, the stripes, orange. My dad used to talk about he's from Bangladesh so he used to tell Eric Bergesen all about them when he was when I was a kid. And uh they're just the most feared of of uh animals in the wild. So uh that's why I like them. Didn't say an anything about Eric Bergesen really but
Ricardo Walko: Excellent, thank you very much. Dave, if you'd like to uh have a dash.
David Willard: Um
David Willard: Um, the monkey, um. The one f uh in fact this is a somewhat oblique reference in fact to uh well my I have a three uh three y year old daughter who h who who who is affectionately known as Miss Monkey. Um, monkeys have attitude. Which I think is a good thing. evolution they and other primates are terribly interesting. Um, so I like monkeys. And and th th th th thi thi this one seems to have perhaps more attitude than most.
Ricardo Walko: Cheers.
Ricardo Walko: Hardly what I'd call the best drawing in the world but it'll do for now. Also not quite as feared as your average tiger, but uh cats are one of my favourite animals, they're very independent, they're snotty as hell at the best of times, and uh, what can you say, you got to love those qualities in an animal. Right. I think we've all managed to master the whiteboard there by looks of it, so, on to it. Project finance. As you can see, twelve point five Euros per unit. That's not a terrible lot as far as I'm aware, and we're hoping to sell them for twenty five. If we're aiming for fifty million Euros we're gonna have to be selling an awful lot of them.
Eric Bergesen: Oh, that was profiting, that was an amount, so that's the amount made,
Ricardo Walko: Yep.
Eric Bergesen: okay.
Ricardo Walko: Well, fifty million, and if you're making twelve point five Euros on each one, then,
Eric Bergesen: Yeah.
Ricardo Walko: awful lot need to be sold. Okay. Now we better actually just get on with the uh the meat of the project. So I'm gonna guess that we've all used remote controls. Any ideas of where you think a new remote control could go into this market?
David Willard: Well, one thing I'm aware of is, th there uh um at the sort of v very high price end of the market there's there's a em emerging market for sort of touch screen L_C_D_ remotes that can be uh programmed in m much more sophisticated ways than sort of conventional models, so you get the sort of you get um you you can redesign the interface to your own needs, you can programme in macros, and you get a much greater degree um um I mean you get in these sort of three in one, five in one, whatevers, but you can get integration between the different uh the the the diff the different things that it's designed to control, to a much greater extent, and you can have one uh you know one macro to turn the uh you know turn the T_V_ to the right channel, get the uh re uh rewind the tape in the V_C_R_ and get it to play once it's rewound, for instance.
Ricardo Walko: Okay.
David Willard: Um b it occurs to Eric Bergesen there might be a niche for uh for a remote that aimed towards some of that sort of functionality but using a just conventional push button design. And therefore putting it into a um well much lower price bracket.
Ricardo Walko: Okay, yeah, tha that's true, with the price range we're looking at, going for a touch screen would probably be possibly
David Willard: Absolutely
Ricardo Walko: out of
David Willard: prohibitive,
Ricardo Walko: our yeah.
David Willard: yeah.
Eric Bergesen: Oh.
Ricardo Walko: But you think uh again something to control multiple units in uh a simple fashion.
David Willard: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't like to say you g I mean you get ones that you can switch between multiple units, but something that could um operate between multiple units in a more integrated fashion. Some and ideally something into which it would have some at least limited facility for um running macros.
Ricardo Walko: Would the the idea something along the lines of, one on button would turn on say the video recorder, the T_V_, maybe the sound system as well, all in one go, is that
David Willard: For
Ricardo Walko: kind
David Willard: instance,
Ricardo Walko: of
David Willard: um let's say oh oh um, or um you know you pr uh you press uh say the play button for the D_V_D_ player and it turns the T_V_ on and onto the right channel as well, um
Ricardo Walko: Okay, that
Eric Bergesen: 'Kay
Ricardo Walko: sounds like a a good strong idea. Um Any takes on this?
Eric Bergesen: Well um I've noticed that uh gaming c is becoming quite popular with television, um when I was younger we used to e play games using our cable, using the cable subscribed the cable providers,
David Willard: Mm-hmm.
Eric Bergesen: but our remote controls would get worn out really easily, and the remote control was not a great kind of keyboar, um keypad, for playing games. So
Ricardo Walko: Okay.
Eric Bergesen: perhaps one that was more um specialised for game playing or interactive television. They they've recently brought out this new remote control, for people to set their favourite channels, or um to record things. Instead of people entering in what time things start, you simply stri slide a bar to say what time it begins, and slide
Ricardo Walko: Okay.
Eric Bergesen: another bar to say what time it ends, you know that's
Ricardo Walko: Yeah I've heard I've seen the
Michael Pridgeon: Mm.
Ricardo Walko: bar-code design before, yeah.
David Willard: Mm-hmm.
Eric Bergesen: Yeah, it's it's taken out the Y you don't have to be uh really clever to use a remote control. I think for gaming, you know you want you want some big buttons for up, down, left and right, shoot. Uh, you wanna be able to change angles in interactive television, so you need buttons to change the television angle, the camera angles and stuff like that.
Ricardo Walko: Okay,
Michael Pridgeon: 'Kay.
Ricardo Walko: well we're beginning to run out of time now, so,
Eric Bergesen: Yeah.
Ricardo Walko: we've got a couple of ideas, we can we'll have to work fast, um, alright as you can see we've got thirty minutes until the next meeting, so we'll have to try and decide on some of the basic functionality, um, how the user interface might work, that'll be a key aspect especially if the idea of um some kind of macros facility because you have to program it, you have to have a lot of response back, or at least some kind.
David Willard: Mm-hmm.
Ricardo Walko: Um And we're gonna maybe n try and have to figure out
Eric Bergesen: What the user wants
Ricardo Walko: what
Eric Bergesen: uh.
Ricardo Walko: the user wants, yes.
Eric Bergesen: Okay.
Ricardo Walko: Um, right. Has anybody got anything they'd like to add at this stage, anything they think that might have been missed so far?
Michael Pridgeon: Well when you're talking about gaming and stuff, do you think they should have some sort of stick on it, rather than
Eric Bergesen: Oh.
Michael Pridgeon: buttons?
Eric Bergesen: Okay,
Michael Pridgeon: Like uh control pads, you know of games, but
Eric Bergesen: Mm-hmm.
Michael Pridgeon: or is that a bit ridiculous?
Ricardo Walko: I I don't see why not, almost everybody is probably used to a console by now, and all of them incorporate small keypads on them, even the mobile phones these days are beginning to use them as well, so
Michael Pridgeon: Yeah.
Ricardo Walko: it's probably an interface that most people are used to. Um and that could allow n easy navigation, used as a joystick as well.
David Willard: Mm-hmm. The other key feature that uh that would be a good idea built into it is t is is to make something you know fairly sort of ergonomic, something that just fits fits as comfortably as possible into the hand. But of course, uh al al also allows for the possibility of a more sort of slightly unconventional or attractive uh sha
Ricardo Walko: Okay.
David Willard: shape for it overall,
Ricardo Walko: So, small,
David Willard: A
Ricardo Walko: stylish,
David Willard: curve, mm-hmm.
Ricardo Walko: and something that's
David Willard: Something
Ricardo Walko: just
David Willard: sort
Ricardo Walko: a little
David Willard: of
Ricardo Walko: different.
David Willard: sort of sl slightly sort of biomorphic in form, uh which it would need to be to sort of conform to the shape of the hand more efficiently anyway.
Ricardo Walko: Okay. That's definitely something that we should be able to do quite easily. I would I would have hoped so anyway. Um, right. I'd say we finish this one up, we get started, I'll get in, I'll write up what we've um kind of quickly done, and I'll get that out to everybody.
Eric Bergesen: 'Kay.
Ricardo Walko: Yeah?
Eric Bergesen: So.
Ricardo Walko: Okay. Um, as far as I'm aware we leave the microphones here, um unless we get told otherwise, and just take the laptops with us. | The team members introduced themselves to each other by name and by their roles in the project. Ricardo Walko introduced the upcoming project to the team and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the animal. Ricardo Walko discussed the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in producing the remote such as gaming options, an LCD screen, and combining functionality so as to control multiple devices. | 3 | amisum | test |
Octavio Shirley: Um minutes from the last meeting which were essentially that we uh had decided on roles for each of you, however, um there are some changes that I've got from on high that
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: um are a bit uh well w what I didn't actually realise it was that the uh this is for a specific television.
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: So the all in one idea goes out the window. And
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: they require that the uh actually I'll get to that at the end point number four, um we'll what you've and then we can see what we can adapt from it. So um, presentations, were you anybody got,
Trent King: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: raring to go?
Trent King: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Raring to go? Okay. Good stuff. Mm.
Trent King: Um.
Octavio Shirley: Oh
Trent King: So
Octavio Shirley: I need to
Trent King: how
Octavio Shirley: plug you in.
Trent King: S
Richard Craft: Wow.
Octavio Shirley: Just about.
Raymond Brown: It's a inspired design.
Trent King: Sh do you want Trent King to hold it?
Octavio Shirley: Uh there we go, just screw 'em on in. Gonna have to swap them round so now,
Trent King: So, after that?
Octavio Shirley: it was function F_ eight.
Trent King: F_ eight.
Octavio Shirley: That's the
Trent King: f
Octavio Shirley: wee blue one.
Trent King: oh sorry F_ eight.
Octavio Shirley: Blue one F_ eight. Should
Trent King: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: do it, good one.
Trent King: Yeah.
Trent King: Yeah. Uh, Trent King again, Rajan Trent King. Uh, as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to find out, sorry,
Octavio Shirley: Hold on, sorry.
Trent King: yeah sure.
Octavio Shirley: and if you just click that it'll go ahead, one
Trent King: Yeah,
Octavio Shirley: at a time.
Trent King: yeah. Uh actually, sorry I have to see the other, sorry.
Octavio Shirley: Sorry, uh.
Trent King: Yeah, thank you. Uh I have look at the market potential for uh, like consumer likings and everything, what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our a net profit or our aims or not? Then
Octavio Shirley: P press F_ five to start it first.
Trent King: Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I can,
Raymond Brown: Hmm.
Trent King: okay.
Octavio Shirley: Jesus.
Trent King: Uh then uh the methodology I adopted to find out all this was market survey. A a detailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings, what they prefer what they not prefer, w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things. And what we got was, we found that if you uh, what they th what problems they are having with different uh remote controls available in the market. Seventy five percent of users they do find it that the remote controls available in the market are ugly. They are not so good looking. So, we have to put stress on this, uh we have to take care of this fact also like our design, uh should be appropriate, should be good looking for the consumers. And yes that's wi uh this will definitely, this can definitely put uh uh enhance our sales. Uh and even uh the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users they are willing to pay high uh pay more for this uh good looking remote controls also. So even if the available market goes for the available uh even if the market goes for the available remote control is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros, which maybe which may seem quite high but if our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better uh better look uh designs, then we can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls.
Octavio Shirley: Excellent.
Trent King: Then And the second thing, some some companies they think that they should have more and more functions of the users uh or in their remote controls, but rather than those having more functions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want, what they operate, rather than making it too complicated. Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the users they use only ten percent of the buttons, so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons making the remote controls too bulky, too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technology is useful only if uh the consumers they want to use it. Otherwise there is no point of having all this type of things. So this will not only reduce the cost of our remote controls but it will increase our profit also. So we have to take care of this fact also. Then. Uh it was function I want to go to.
Octavio Shirley: Oh you wanna go back? Just escape.
Trent King: Uh, escape, okay thank you. Then if we look at this slide,
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Trent King: uh these are in your shared documents, you can see,
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Trent King: like Uh,
Richard Craft: So,
Trent King: sorry.
Richard Craft: sorry I was just gonna say, what was the question for this? Or is are you coming on to that?
Trent King: Ah t look all the market potential, what
Richard Craft: Okay.
Trent King: uh how we should design consu our remote controls, what they should be there so as to en enhance our profit, enhance
Richard Craft: So these percentages
Trent King: our sales.
Richard Craft: are
Trent King: Yeah,
Richard Craft: are what?
Trent King: these are different age group persons like uh sorry, I can open it in another way.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Trent King: Uh,
Octavio Shirley: Speech recognition.
Trent King: yes. If we look at the costs whether the consumers they are willing to uh pay more for speech recognition in a remote control or not, we can find that they up to a thirty five years age group we have a very good disliking for this uh this uh point, like for speech recognition in a remote control. So we can emphasise on this point also like, because it will definitely enhance our sales in this
Richard Craft: Hmm.
Trent King: ag in this particular age group from uh fifteen to thirty five, and I uh and I think that most of the users of the rem uh T_V_ are belong to this age group.
Octavio Shirley: Hmm.
Trent King: So we
Octavio Shirley: We're als
Trent King: should look
Octavio Shirley: we we're looking at who buys it as well.
Trent King: Yeah. We can look at that that factor also, so yes.
Octavio Shirley: Uh, which I think the twenty five to thirty five is uh usual, sort of.
Richard Craft: Mm,
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: mm.
Trent King: So, and And then
Octavio Shirley: Fifteen to twe
Trent King: Yes. I think so. Uh if we look at this data how how uh h how what are the problems the consumers are facing with the existing remote controls in the market. They find that thirt uh thirty five percent uh thirty four percent of the consumers they find too difficult to operate a remote control. So it should be in such a way that it should be easy to learn how to operate these remote controls and we should provide pl uh spe uh proper manuals for its use also so as that people consumers could easily learn. They need not to have any, much technical knowledge
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Trent King: to see uh to know how to operate these remote controls.
Trent King: So
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Trent King: um this is all about uh market potential by Trent King.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Trent King: Uh, yes, th
Octavio Shirley: Okay, thank you.
Trent King: thank you.
Octavio Shirley: Um, follow on with Helen? Yeah
Richard Craft: Yep, sure,
Octavio Shirley: please.
Richard Craft: that's cool, um
Trent King: Yeah we have to
Octavio Shirley: Oh,
Trent King: take
Octavio Shirley: so
Trent King: that
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: we do yeah.
Trent King: out. Sorry.
Octavio Shirley: Fun and games.
Trent King: Sorry.
Octavio Shirley: Don't know if the cable's gonna be long enough.
Trent King: Uh sorry,
Octavio Shirley: I think
Trent King: I
Octavio Shirley: I
Trent King: have.
Octavio Shirley: just kicked over whatever it runs on underneath as well.
Trent King: Brian, this one also I. Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: I
Trent King: Thank
Richard Craft: can
Trent King: you
Richard Craft: turn
Trent King: very much
Richard Craft: my
Trent King: Brian.
Richard Craft: computer quickly if that's okay.
Trent King: If you want Trent King to help,
Richard Craft: Um,
Trent King: yeah.
Richard Craft: yep.
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: Okay, and then what do I press, F_ eight?
Trent King: Uh F_ eight.
Octavio Shirley: Function
Trent King: Function
Octavio Shirley: F_ eight.
Trent King: F_ eight.
Richard Craft: Oh right.
Trent King: Mm s.
Richard Craft: Okay cool.
Trent King: It's not coming.
Richard Craft: Oh.
Trent King: Function F_ eight, okay. Yeah.
Richard Craft: Yeah. No signal.
Octavio Shirley: Hmm.
Trent King: Computer.
Octavio Shirley: There you go.
Trent King: Computer adjusting,
Richard Craft: Okay.
Trent King: yeah.
Richard Craft: Cool. Okay
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: and then how do I press the the big one, to get it on
Octavio Shirley: Uh
Richard Craft: to the big
Octavio Shirley: F_ five.
Richard Craft: F_ five and I press that again to get it off as well
Octavio Shirley: Um,
Richard Craft: do
Trent King: Escape.
Richard Craft: I?
Octavio Shirley: F_ five and escape'll bring it back and just uh the left button for advancing.
Richard Craft: Okay, so um I'm the interface design designer, User Interface Designer sorry, uh I'm concerned with um w what effect the apparatus should have on the user and um I'm I'm also I want to point out that our motto, put the fashion in electronics, so obviously we as a company we want to make our products trendy and fashionable, it's a big concern of ours. Okay, and how do I press n just the next button?
Octavio Shirley: Uh just
Richard Craft: The arrow?
Octavio Shirley: a left uh
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: left
Richard Craft: So
Octavio Shirley: mouse button.
Richard Craft: um I looked at existing designs and also um the information that Raj gave us was very useful about what people like, what people dislike. Um and what people fashionable, because we said people between twenty five and thirty five
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: were the main um buyers of of our T_V_ I think.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: So um what they like and what they find fashionable.
Octavio Shirley: 'Kay.
Richard Craft: And ergonomics, we said um, I don't know I haven't actually been able to do any of this myself, but um maybe that comes up, I don't know.
Octavio Shirley: That can come under
Richard Craft: And
Octavio Shirley: Arlo as
Richard Craft: the
Octavio Shirley: well.
Richard Craft: findings, well the basic that was the basic function to send messages to the television set. That's
Octavio Shirley: Uh.
Richard Craft: what people want to do. Um, so they need to be included, um, but I've got some pictures here of some leading ones. I don't know how to get to them, do I press
Octavio Shirley: Uh
Richard Craft: F_
Octavio Shirley: if
Richard Craft: five
Octavio Shirley: you
Richard Craft: is it?
Octavio Shirley: if you escape
Richard Craft: escape?
Octavio Shirley: then you can see your bar.
Richard Craft: Oh okay, cool. I haven't got my glasses on so I hope it's this one. These
Octavio Shirley: Uh
Richard Craft: are two
Octavio Shirley: okay.
Richard Craft: leading um remote controls at the moment. You know
Octavio Shirley: 'Kay.
Richard Craft: they're grey, they've I mean this one's got loads of buttons, it's hard to tell from here what they actually do, and they don't look very exciting at all. Um, personally I prefer this one just because it's looks easier use, it's a bit more sleek with more of this silver stuff,
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: um, but there you go, that's what we're up against, and I think we can do much better than that.
Raymond Brown: Of course.
Richard Craft: Um
Octavio Shirley: We hope so.
Richard Craft: hang on. F_ five, okay, sorry. Personal preferences. Um, well I think we need to l I think the ergonomics is quite um important, um
Octavio Shirley: Yeah, particularly if we've uh there was a bit in Raj's about R_S_I_ and things as well.
Richard Craft: Uh-huh.
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: And um I thought not too edgy and like a box, more kind of hand-held more um not as uh computery and
Octavio Shirley: Organic.
Richard Craft: or organic, yeah, more organic shape I think. Um simple designs, like the last one we just saw, not too many buttons and as Raj pointed out, only ten percent fifty percent of people only use ten percent of the buttons,
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: so I think what we can miss out on the buttons we can make up for in
Octavio Shirley: Sales,
Richard Craft: design and and how nice it looks.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: Um, hand-held and portable I think is portamint is important because T_F_T_ have just um released um I think is it a a remote control for presentations or uh and
Octavio Shirley: Yeah
Richard Craft: a big
Octavio Shirley: it's
Richard Craft: seven
Octavio Shirley: like a,
Richard Craft: inch
Octavio Shirley: yeah.
Richard Craft: big screen, anyway, so um
Octavio Shirley: It's.
Richard Craft: Yeah, no seven inches isn't that big but um anyway um so hand-held and portable and uh m
Octavio Shirley: Right.
Richard Craft: I thought about other functions for T_V_ but as you pointed out people don't actually want that, so
Octavio Shirley: And
Richard Craft: maybe
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: we
Octavio Shirley: also
Richard Craft: forget about that.
Octavio Shirley: the company want to keep it stuck to the T_V_ for uh to keep down the
Richard Craft: It's
Octavio Shirley: production
Richard Craft: for one
Octavio Shirley: time.
Richard Craft: T_V_ oh right okay, sure. And so the last thing I thought w which I quickly mentioned in the other one was maybe a bit of a gimmick to
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: set us apart from other people, like glow-in-the-dark
Trent King: Exactly.
Richard Craft: um
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: which does already e exist but it's not very
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: widely used I don't think. Easy finder with the a whistle function
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: or something, or rechargeable station because it's a pain when you run out of batteries.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: And I think that, yep, that's it.
Octavio Shirley: That's cool.
Raymond Brown: So
Richard Craft: Okay?
Raymond Brown: uh, I noticed your talk about speech recognition and whistling,
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: and uh I was just curious to know, have we done any research into how many people can whistle? Um, or if is that a function we want in the remote?
Richard Craft: Um,
Octavio Shirley: Um,
Richard Craft: I haven't
Octavio Shirley: do you have
Richard Craft: been
Octavio Shirley: trouble
Richard Craft: able to
Octavio Shirley: whistling?
Raymond Brown: I don't, but I I know a lot of people do right.
Octavio Shirley: Really? Ooh.
Raymond Brown: Yeah it just I mean it has to be a certain kind of whistle too, right?
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm,
Octavio Shirley: Yeah, I suppose
Richard Craft: yeah
Octavio Shirley: that's true.
Richard Craft: or
Octavio Shirley: Well
Richard Craft: some
Octavio Shirley: I suppo
Richard Craft: sort
Octavio Shirley: uh you could
Richard Craft: of
Octavio Shirley: y you could
Richard Craft: voice
Octavio Shirley: have the you could have the basically um instead of a whistle if it's got the voice recognition you could have it just, you know, where are you?
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Trent King: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: That's costly though. Um a much easier thing is just any loud noise like clapping
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: um,
Octavio Shirley: Hmm.
Raymond Brown: shouting,
Trent King: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: you know,
Octavio Shirley: Sounds
Raymond Brown: uh
Octavio Shirley: good.
Raymond Brown: and then, what would the response be? It beeps back at you or something?
Richard Craft: Yeah, something.
Raymond Brown: Okay. Well, uh let Trent King set this up. So I plug it in, press F_ five? Function F_ five?
Octavio Shirley: Function F_ eight for the um
Raymond Brown: Or function F_ eight?
Octavio Shirley: the uh
Raymond Brown: Okay.
Richard Craft: Oh you need to twiddle the thingamibobsy thing.
Raymond Brown: Okay. I think it's uh just to lock it in.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: It's got it.
Richard Craft: Okay.
Raymond Brown: Okay. Um. So as Raymond Brown my job is to take an input from you guys,
Octavio Shirley: Alright.
Raymond Brown: um so it's good you went first, and
Octavio Shirley: Let's
Raymond Brown: I jotted
Octavio Shirley: remember
Raymond Brown: down some
Octavio Shirley: that.
Raymond Brown: notes as to what are the b needs and uh what kind of novel features we can add to differentiate our product from the others. Um so Raj told us that uh consumers are willing to spend more for fancy products, and um he also mentioned that uh the current products don't always match users' operating behaviour. Um, a lot of the buttons aren't used, and uh he mentioned that they're not fun to use. And uh a novel feature which uh we just brought up was this this automatic speech recognition feature or noise detection feature for when you lose the remote, there could be a little microphone on it, and any noise over a certain threshold um it'll pick up as a a distress signal um
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: from you and it'll beep back and say you know oh here I am or
Octavio Shirley: But
Raymond Brown: something
Octavio Shirley: sure
Raymond Brown: of this
Octavio Shirley: surely
Raymond Brown: sort.
Octavio Shirley: that would have to be um sort of specific rather than above a threshold 'cause if you had a loud movie on you're likely
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: to get it
Raymond Brown: Oh
Octavio Shirley: beeping
Raymond Brown: yeah,
Octavio Shirley: back at you.
Raymond Brown: yeah,
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: that's true. Well maybe you could have a um hmm tha that would be a consideration to take into account yes. Um.
Octavio Shirley: Sorry I didn't mean to derail you there.
Raymond Brown: Yeah well tha that's uh for later down the road um, and then as for the user interface it should be trendy, um and not computery, right, so more low tech and not too many buttons.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: So I took these all into consideration and also I have some limitations from the boss. Right um, and practical limitations which I kinda threw out the window. And so I did a little research and unfortunately all I had to work on was our uh our corporate archives of the great products we've made before, which include, you know, um space craft, coffee makers, and bullet trains
Octavio Shirley: Ah is
Raymond Brown: Or
Octavio Shirley: that what
Raymond Brown: uh
Octavio Shirley: that is?
Raymond Brown: or a high speed train. Right and having personally worked with all these products uh I have a great deal of experience with uh
Octavio Shirley: Well
Raymond Brown: with industrial
Octavio Shirley: that's cool.
Raymond Brown: design of
Octavio Shirley: If
Raymond Brown: these.
Octavio Shirley: you if you can build space craft you'll have no problem with a
Raymond Brown: Right.
Octavio Shirley: remote control,
Richard Craft: Yeah sure.
Octavio Shirley: yeah.
Raymond Brown: So, I figured, just put 'em all together. You got a a caffeine powered space shuttle train transport to your T_V_, and um
Trent King: Hmm.
Raymond Brown: as for the user interface problem, you know, too many buttons. Give it one button and and it's a you know, for the the cowboy in all of us I I'm not quite sure what the the function is there
Octavio Shirley: Right
Richard Craft: Well
Raymond Brown: but
Richard Craft: I like
Octavio Shirley: okay.
Richard Craft: that design.
Raymond Brown: Yeah it's a g I mean you could have a you know a
Octavio Shirley: Is that just switches on the speech recognition and it's entirely speech operated, is it?
Raymond Brown: Right.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: So I think I I missed the budget thing, it was fifty million Euros?
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: And we gotta sell twenty five of them?
Richard Craft: Yeah,
Raymond Brown: Right.
Richard Craft: not a problem.
Trent King: Fifty
Raymond Brown: Okay.
Trent King: million
Octavio Shirley: Ah now
Trent King: was
Octavio Shirley: it's fif
Trent King: uh
Octavio Shirley: fifty
Trent King: prof
Octavio Shirley: million Euros we've gotta uh
Trent King: As a profit.
Octavio Shirley: we've
Raymond Brown: Oh okay,
Octavio Shirley: g
Raymond Brown: so I I
Octavio Shirley: gotta
Raymond Brown: mixed
Octavio Shirley: make
Raymond Brown: those
Octavio Shirley: profit,
Raymond Brown: numbers.
Octavio Shirley: so we're making that at twelve and a half
Raymond Brown: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: Euros a time.
Raymond Brown: Well I guess more realistically then, we need a product that's got some kinda nifty outer casing, cheap plastic uh, you know, um
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: that should be just like uh a tenth of the price maybe or less. An energy source which'd probably just be uh your regular batteries
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Raymond Brown: um, we don't
Octavio Shirley: Would
Raymond Brown: wanna
Octavio Shirley: it
Raymond Brown: have
Octavio Shirley: be
Raymond Brown: it
Octavio Shirley: possible to have the rechargeable idea? Is that is
Raymond Brown: Uh.
Octavio Shirley: that gonna
Richard Craft: Or
Octavio Shirley: mark
Richard Craft: a little
Octavio Shirley: up
Richard Craft: base
Octavio Shirley: a lot?
Richard Craft: station or
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: something,
Raymond Brown: Yeah, yeah, we could do that too. Um, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah.
Richard Craft: That might cost more though, 'cause obviously with batteries we don't need to provide, well we provide the first batteries, but
Octavio Shirley: Yeah, yeah.
Richard Craft: it's more, it's that's cheaper
Raymond Brown: Right.
Octavio Shirley: I mean
Richard Craft: to
Octavio Shirley: if
Richard Craft: just
Octavio Shirley: you think
Richard Craft: provide
Octavio Shirley: about
Richard Craft: batteries.
Octavio Shirley: these base stations now it's essentially just a a lead with a sort of
Richard Craft: A
Octavio Shirley: self
Richard Craft: battery in it,
Octavio Shirley: connecting
Richard Craft: kinda.
Octavio Shirley: brake in it, so
Raymond Brown: Right,
Octavio Shirley: I don't
Richard Craft: Okay.
Raymond Brown: so
Octavio Shirley: think it'd up up
Raymond Brown: so the
Octavio Shirley: the price that much.
Raymond Brown: unirs
Richard Craft: Okay.
Raymond Brown: the user interface uh the canonical user interface for these would be just a bunch of buttons, but since we're a cutting edge company, we uh of course will have alternatives like uh speech recognition, whistling recognition and rocket power
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Raymond Brown: behind our product. Um and lastly the transmission interface is uh, just some engineering thing you don't have to worry about.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Raymond Brown: Um so here's you know, a great schematic that my uh apprentice designer gave Trent King. Um as you can see the the remote control have parts and those parts look like that and um you know it's got a little operating procedure that looks something like that. And I suppose you all know how it works because we've all used it and we wouldn't be in a company designing remote controls if we didn't know what they were so uh personal preferences, I think uh programmable options which um just require a small amount of memory, uh non volatile memory, just um
Richard Craft: Mm.
Raymond Brown: so the user can put in their favourite channels and maybe their preferred volume settings so that when they turn it on it's not blasting.
Richard Craft: Mm that's a good idea actually I like the programmable
Trent King: Yeah,
Richard Craft: options.
Trent King: Trent King too.
Raymond Brown: Oh okay. And the uh, the bells and whistles that we mentioned you know, they take more budgeting, um more technical uh expenditure of effort and it's also much more likely to not work if
Octavio Shirley: Right.
Richard Craft: Mm 'kay.
Raymond Brown: if we add these bells and whistles.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: That's all I got.
Octavio Shirley: 'Kay, thank you very much, um I'll take that back.
Raymond Brown: Ooh that's tight.
Octavio Shirley: Right, also so um a notice I got not very long before the meeting, so didn't manage to forward it on to you, it is let's see, I'll find it myself, um Ta
Raymond Brown: Okay, I don't think we need to screw it in.
Octavio Shirley: nah.
Raymond Brown: Just push it.
Trent King: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: We had that um to dis-include teletext um because it's become outdated, and everybody uses the internet anyway.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: Um, dunno what Oracle would have to say with that but never mind. Um it's only for the television, which I'm presuming means it's for a specific television,
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: and um instead of colours and sorta colour options, they want corporate colour and slogan somehow implemented in the new design.
Richard Craft: Corporate colour.
Octavio Shirley: Yellow.
Richard Craft: Okay.
Raymond Brown: Yellow.
Octavio Shirley: I presume. Um, everything, all their sort of uh you know the uh corporate website and everything's yellow.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: electronics uh I don't know exactly how sort of incorpor I mean, I guess if you're going for a sort of globular shape you could kind of have it working its way round it or
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: something. Uh,
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: where am I? Okay, so, we have to decide on which functions we're going to actually have.
Richard Craft: 'Kay.
Octavio Shirley: Uh, now, we had as listed options we had speech recognition potentially, flat screen interface, L_C_D_ interface um we also want to limit the number of buttons
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: so we'll pretty much take that one as read. We'll
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: use the the basic functions for a television. No teletext. Um okay
Richard Craft: Although
Octavio Shirley: hold
Richard Craft: the
Octavio Shirley: on.
Richard Craft: the danger with that is, it could look a bit cheap.
Octavio Shirley: Not enough buttons you mean?
Richard Craft: Yeah. Well
Octavio Shirley: So sorta strike a balance between a a few and a
Richard Craft: Mm.
Octavio Shirley: or it looks like we're just cutting on the um
Richard Craft: On the number of buttons, kind of
Octavio Shirley: I
Richard Craft: functions
Octavio Shirley: do however
Richard Craft: and stuff.
Octavio Shirley: have this from over my head,
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm, okay.
Octavio Shirley: that they don't want teletext on it.
Richard Craft: Okay, cool.
Octavio Shirley: Uh maybe Raj you could find out what people would think about that, or maybe they'll send
Trent King: About
Octavio Shirley: some information
Trent King: cost.
Octavio Shirley: about that, about um what people, whether people would require um teletext in a remote teletext option in a remote control.
Trent King: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: Okay um. So uh I take it your position Arlo is that the bells and whistles we've gotta come up with the a gimmick but not too complicated a gimmick.
Raymond Brown: Yeah yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Um so I mean a a the sort of inkling I'm getting from little bits of um web chatter that I'm getting sent is that they're quite interested in a T_F_T_ display, interactive display. However that does sound a bit like the more complicated design that rav uh sorry Raj um said people didn't like.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm,
Octavio Shirley: Although
Richard Craft: mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: I guess if there's a sort of If you think about standard interfaces that people use already, sort of Windows-style
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: drop down menus or whatever, I think maybe that's a
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: bit, going a bit far but you know like in a basic sense that you could have your basic selection of buttons, and if you hit a sort of menu at the top you have um it goes to a different selection of buttons,
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: so it sorta keeps it simple.
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: Um glow in the dark, is that sort of with a light inside it or is it sort of
Richard Craft: Um
Octavio Shirley: glow in the dark material?
Trent King: Uh.
Richard Craft: Glow in the dark material
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: I was thinking.
Octavio Shirley: So
Richard Craft: Um,
Trent King: I
Richard Craft: so I I guess that would be cheaper than a light
Trent King: Uh may
Richard Craft: I
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: think.
Trent King: I say something about?
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Trent King: Uh actually I think it's really really very important point uh as if we look at the market because people mor fifty percent people they find that the remote controls are often lost somewhere in the remote, in the room. But
Richard Craft: Often lost s was
Octavio Shirley: Lost,
Richard Craft: that,
Trent King: yeah
Richard Craft: yeah.
Trent King: are
Octavio Shirley: yeah.
Trent King: lost and means they forget where they have kept the remote control last time.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Trent King: But if we add speech recognition as well as glow in the dark then both these factors will help their locating the
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Trent King: remote control, like if they come and speak something at the remote control uh replies to something something and it glows in the dark. Both these factors uh both these points will help them to locate the
Octavio Shirley: That's
Trent King: where
Octavio Shirley: cool.
Trent King: they have
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm,
Trent King: kept this remote control,
Richard Craft: mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: That's
Trent King: and
Octavio Shirley: cool.
Trent King: this will definitely enhance our uh market sales, so we should take it into consideration also.
Octavio Shirley: Okay, cool. Um
Raymond Brown: Well hmm.
Octavio Shirley: speech recognition I take it
Raymond Brown: Oh
Octavio Shirley: I don't,
Raymond Brown: it's
Octavio Shirley: I've I know of no products um
Raymond Brown: They're act
Octavio Shirley: that
Raymond Brown: there
Octavio Shirley: use
Raymond Brown: there
Octavio Shirley: speech
Raymond Brown: was
Octavio Shirley: recognition
Raymond Brown: a remote control
Octavio Shirley: well.
Raymond Brown: that came out two years ago that had a some basic speech recognition on it. You could programme it with your channels and then you say you know like uh B_B_C_ one and it goes to that channel.
Octavio Shirley: Really?
Raymond Brown: Yeah, it didn't work very well though because of this noise interference problem.
Richard Craft: Mm.
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: They mentioned you know if the television says you are listening to B_B_C_ one.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah, or a yeah an advert an advert for B_B_C_ two on B_B_C_ one'll switch the channel for you kinda thing.
Raymond Brown: Right, right, and so there was a lot of this, you'd be watching the T_V_ and then all of a sudden it'd it'd pick up a noise and turn it off or you know
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: or
Octavio Shirley: Mm.
Raymond Brown: turn the volume off or something,
Richard Craft: 'Kay.
Raymond Brown: but if you can work around that that noise problem
Octavio Shirley: Uh-huh.
Richard Craft: Well what about this might get a bit too expensive actually, but what about um something that's built into the T_V_ um that you can press and it'll send out a little signal you know like the ones that we can't hear or something
Octavio Shirley: Ah, that's a good idea.
Richard Craft: um that that will activate the remote control starts
Raymond Brown: Right.
Richard Craft: to beep.
Octavio Shirley: So like a kind
Richard Craft: If
Octavio Shirley: of
Richard Craft: you find
Octavio Shirley: backwards
Richard Craft: if y
Octavio Shirley: remote from the telly.
Raymond Brown: Right
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: and then it would do just you know, uh subtractive kind of cancellation of the noise. What you could do then would be you have uh a remote controlled by the T_V_ speaker, or not a remo I'm sorry, a microphone by the T_V_ speaker and a transmitter there that sends back to your remote, 'cause you can't um expect uh the the television manufacturers to
Richard Craft: Mm.
Raymond Brown: to put that feature into their
Richard Craft: Yeah,
Raymond Brown: T_V_s.
Richard Craft: that's the only thing, yeah.
Raymond Brown: But
Octavio Shirley: Right.
Raymond Brown: yeah, then you have like the little se separate module by
Octavio Shirley: That
Raymond Brown: the
Octavio Shirley: we
Raymond Brown: T_V_
Octavio Shirley: should just stick
Raymond Brown: speaker
Octavio Shirley: on, yeah.
Richard Craft: That
Raymond Brown: which
Richard Craft: comes with our remote control.
Raymond Brown: Right,
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: and then
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: the remote control would know um
Octavio Shirley: And that's
Raymond Brown: what's
Octavio Shirley: a
Raymond Brown: being produced by
Octavio Shirley: sort
Raymond Brown: the television.
Octavio Shirley: of basic R_F_ kind
Raymond Brown: Right,
Octavio Shirley: of
Raymond Brown: right.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: frequency so it'll be cheap.
Raymond Brown: Right, right. Um. Yeah that's certainly possible then an another thing was about this losing the remote and trying to find it again. If you do have this sorta speech interface to it, you don't even need to find it. You just say you know, um whatever you whatever you want the remote for, you know to change the channel or to uh turn the T_V_ on and off, you just shout your command to it and it would do it for you if it's within you know, within hearing range.
Octavio Shirley: Uh-huh.
Raymond Brown: And uh you know it could be somewhere in the room y that you've no idea where it is and it would still do its job.
Richard Craft: That could also be built into the T_V_ though, which might make our remote control a bit obsolete.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: Well, hopefully
Octavio Shirley: It might
Raymond Brown: we're
Octavio Shirley: do
Raymond Brown: uh
Octavio Shirley: us out of a job.
Raymond Brown: we're ahead
Richard Craft: Yeah,
Raymond Brown: of the curve.
Richard Craft: okay.
Octavio Shirley: Um Okay. I like the whole sort of remote feedback thing. Um so I think rather than and that also kind of takes out the speech recognition
Richard Craft: Mm.
Octavio Shirley: in terms of the interference of it not working very well and things like that,
Raymond Brown: Hmm.
Richard Craft: And the expense.
Octavio Shirley: so I th yeah and expense
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: and the time. So I think if we're going to go well I mean like the thing about the there's the problem with the T_F_T_ or the L_C_D_ kind of thing is if you're also wanting the the kind of uh organic globby sort of feeling to it then you might have trouble incorporating the screen.
Richard Craft: Mm.
Octavio Shirley: Um, but I guess not I thin we'll just we'll just pretend that's not a problem. Um uh and how are you about the glow in the dark material? Is that
Raymond Brown: Um.
Richard Craft: Maybe not even all of it 'cause we said um colours and fashion w were important so maybe um just like a little l line that's kind of around the outside
Raymond Brown: Mm.
Richard Craft: and then you can make the rest a different
Octavio Shirley: Contrast
Richard Craft: colour.
Octavio Shirley: contra
Raymond Brown: Yeah,
Octavio Shirley: well.
Raymond Brown: no th the material's cheap but it's just uh the the glow in the dark material needs some light to charge it you know,
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: and
Octavio Shirley: Yeah,
Raymond Brown: then uh
Octavio Shirley: okay.
Raymond Brown: if you're,
Octavio Shirley: So if
Raymond Brown: if
Octavio Shirley: it's
Raymond Brown: you're
Octavio Shirley: dow
Raymond Brown: sitting
Octavio Shirley: it's
Raymond Brown: in the dark
Octavio Shirley: d uh
Raymond Brown: for
Octavio Shirley: yeah.
Raymond Brown: too long it uh it won't glow
Octavio Shirley: Or
Raymond Brown: any
Octavio Shirley: if
Raymond Brown: more.
Octavio Shirley: it's down under the couch cushions
Raymond Brown: Right.
Octavio Shirley: um which is where I usually find mine.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: Right.
Octavio Shirley: Um Okay, well we can use we can still use the glow in the dark as a gimmick essentially,
Richard Craft: Yeah, 'cause
Octavio Shirley: um
Richard Craft: what I thought, main
Octavio Shirley: if we're gonna have to if we're gonna have the logo on as well, bright yellow logo in our our um slogan.
Richard Craft: Slogan, yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Uh then you know they're gonna be fairly brightly coloured anyway, and
Richard Craft: Right.
Octavio Shirley: we can have sort of a a a trimming as well, of
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: the glow in the dark material, just as gimmickyness.
Richard Craft: 'Cause yeah, that w more than finding it, that was more like you know if you're watching a film in the dark,
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: you can um
Raymond Brown: Mm-hmm.
Richard Craft: still see the remote control.
Octavio Shirley: Alright, so n sorta
Richard Craft: That was more
Octavio Shirley: if
Richard Craft: of a
Octavio Shirley: if
Richard Craft: a gimmick.
Octavio Shirley: if we're gon if we're gonna go with the idea of um uh of feedback, sort of remote finder, then that kinda stuffs that one out then. Do you think?
Richard Craft: Mm.
Octavio Shirley: Uh it makes it fairly unnecessary then.
Richard Craft: Yeah, unnecessary.
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Um, okay so scratch that. Uh so we've got do we want to go with the T_F_T_ idea or the
Raymond Brown: Um
Octavio Shirley: is that
Raymond Brown: yeah we're getting
Octavio Shirley: far
Raymond Brown: a lot
Octavio Shirley: too
Raymond Brown: of features
Octavio Shirley: expensive?
Raymond Brown: now, I I think
Octavio Shirley: Well I mean I think I think the sort of find the finder things I mean it's uh I could probably write the circuit diagram for that myself.
Raymond Brown: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: Um
Raymond Brown: Well, I think a consideration too is that these uh remotes get abused a lot, you know they get thrown
Richard Craft: Mm.
Raymond Brown: around, there's a good chance the the T_F_T_ screen would break
Octavio Shirley: Mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: or uh get damaged. They're pretty fragile.
Richard Craft: So is
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: that one of our definite requirements that they wa that it needs a T_F_T_
Octavio Shirley: Um
Richard Craft: screen?
Octavio Shirley: no, I mean that was going on ravs uh Raj's sort of um marketing research I guess. Um Uh So we'll stick with sort of programmability um for the buttons that we do have. Um. So that's sort of included in your sub-module kind of stuff, um
Raymond Brown: Yeah mm.
Octavio Shirley: Uh you were finding out about teletext. If you
Trent King: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: could find out that uh
Trent King: Totally, it takes cheap speech recognition, she
Octavio Shirley: Um I think
Trent King: they
Octavio Shirley: we're gonna
Trent King: wi
Octavio Shirley: scratch the speech recognition as a bit of a
Raymond Brown: Oh.
Octavio Shirley: um
Richard Craft: Yeah you think so?
Octavio Shirley: expensive, no?
Raymond Brown: Oh no it's it's much cheaper than the T_F_T_, it's just a microphone
Octavio Shirley: Oh right, okay.
Raymond Brown: and some some integrated circuits.
Octavio Shirley: Is it
Raymond Brown: And
Octavio Shirley: not
Raymond Brown: it'd
Octavio Shirley: the circuits
Raymond Brown: it'd be a small
Octavio Shirley: that
Raymond Brown: vocabulary
Octavio Shirley: cost
Raymond Brown: speech recognition system, like a
Octavio Shirley: Oh right, okay. Uh
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: well that kind of takes back the R_F_ the R_F_ remote sort of idea as well. Um. Five minutes. Okay. Decisions. Uh, votes, let's vote. Who wants T_F_T_? No-one does. Excellent, so we'll go with speech recognition, yeah?
Trent King: Yeah.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm,
Raymond Brown: Okay.
Richard Craft: that's
Octavio Shirley: Um,
Richard Craft: cool.
Octavio Shirley: speech recognition, limited buttons, organic design.
Richard Craft: Um
Octavio Shirley: And what else was I thinking of that I haven't written down and therefore fallen out my head, programmability.
Trent King: Glow in dark.
Octavio Shirley: Uh
Richard Craft: if it's not too expensive s I think it's a good
Octavio Shirley: Uh
Richard Craft: gimmick.
Octavio Shirley: o
Raymond Brown: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: okay. And also, integrating the, remember to integrate the logo and the s slogan.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm.
Octavio Shirley: Okay, so. Um can you put all these reports in the project documents folder if they're not already in there as well. So, it just helps Trent King
Raymond Brown: Yeah
Trent King: Here?
Octavio Shirley: summarize
Raymond Brown: yeah.
Octavio Shirley: them.
Trent King: Sure.
Octavio Shirley: And um I'll put any I'm I'm putting anything I do in there anyway, so uh
Richard Craft: And where is it sorry?
Octavio Shirley: Uh pro uh project documents. On
Raymond Brown: So it should be when you save
Octavio Shirley: A_M_I_ scenario controller.
Raymond Brown: on your desktop, so it goes save as,
Richard Craft: Oh.
Raymond Brown: or
Trent King: Uh it is in shared documents?
Raymond Brown: And then uh hit that little folder up thing
Octavio Shirley: Where
Raymond Brown: again.
Octavio Shirley: am I?
Trent King: Projoct
Octavio Shirley: Project
Trent King: uh projector.
Raymond Brown: Again.
Octavio Shirley: documents, yeah, it's on your desktop
Raymond Brown: All the
Octavio Shirley: as
Raymond Brown: way
Octavio Shirley: well.
Raymond Brown: to the top, yeah that's up to desktop. Right and then project documents.
Richard Craft: Okay, cool.
Trent King: Hmm. It is not giving anything. Shared documents.
Octavio Shirley: And I will tr getting strings of um information, I'll try and forward any specific to anybody in particular, as soon as I get them now, rather than I was about to sort of tell you about the changes before the meeting, and then the meeting turned up, so
Richard Craft: Okay.
Raymond Brown: Mm. Did you get my email?
Octavio Shirley: I did.
Raymond Brown: Okay. Just making sure.
Richard Craft: Okay.
Octavio Shirley: So
Richard Craft: What I thought as well about the material is um maybe not this kind of material, but maybe more like um this kind of rubbery material, it's a bit more bouncy, like you said they get chucked around a lot. Um, a bit more durable and
Octavio Shirley: Okay.
Richard Craft: that can also be ergonomic and it kind of feels a bit different
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: from all the other remote controls. The rubber
Raymond Brown: Yeah.
Richard Craft: rather than
Octavio Shirley: More sort of um flesh-like than plasticky sort of.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Raymond Brown: Wow.
Trent King: Um but we have to take care like But we have to take care of our children also if they means if children catch hold of your or if they chew it it shouldn't be too harmful. So, whatever material we use
Octavio Shirley: Oh no, ethics,
Trent King: it should be
Octavio Shirley: that's
Trent King: yeah.
Octavio Shirley: gonna cost us money.
Trent King: So we have to safety point of view also,
Octavio Shirley: Okay,
Trent King: we have to
Octavio Shirley: safety.
Trent King: take care.
Richard Craft: Oh I think wi with the more organic shape of it it won't be as it won't as have many sharp corners as that, so that's something
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: good, um I dunno,
Octavio Shirley: It
Raymond Brown: We
Octavio Shirley: sme
Raymond Brown: could
Richard Craft: I mean
Raymond Brown: go
Octavio Shirley: smells
Raymond Brown: comp
Octavio Shirley: good for children.
Raymond Brown: yeah.
Trent King: Yeah.
Raymond Brown: We could go completely out of the box and make the thing a big red ball foam ball. And it's got the thing on the inside. And there's no buttons at all, it's always on, and just yell at it,
Richard Craft: That's
Raymond Brown: and it works.
Richard Craft: a good
Octavio Shirley: That
Richard Craft: idea.
Octavio Shirley: sounds,
Raymond Brown: And then
Octavio Shirley: yeah
Raymond Brown: ch children
Richard Craft: Interesting.
Octavio Shirley: it's gonna
Raymond Brown: will
Octavio Shirley: have
Raymond Brown: love
Octavio Shirley: to be
Raymond Brown: it.
Octavio Shirley: it's gonna be have a big yellow
Raymond Brown: Oh
Octavio Shirley: foam
Raymond Brown: yellow,
Octavio Shirley: ball,
Raymond Brown: yellow
Richard Craft: Yeah,
Octavio Shirley: yeah,
Raymond Brown: ball.
Richard Craft: d
Octavio Shirley: sorry.
Raymond Brown: Right.
Richard Craft: with the colour, um does it have to be all yellow, do you know?
Octavio Shirley: Please God no. Um.
Richard Craft: No.
Octavio Shirley: Well, I wouldn't th I mean, my reaction to an all-yellow remote control wouldn't be anything other than horror, so
Richard Craft: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: I think just having it
Trent King: Small
Richard Craft: Having
Octavio Shirley: surrounding
Trent King: logo
Richard Craft: a little bit.
Octavio Shirley: the logo.
Trent King: with
Richard Craft: Okay
Trent King: the
Richard Craft: cool.
Trent King: like a small yellow strip or y yellow with the
Richard Craft: Mm
Trent King: logo
Richard Craft: mm.
Trent King: in it.
Octavio Shirley: Yeah.
Richard Craft: Mm-hmm, okay. Cool.
Octavio Shirley: And I'll see if I can argue with boss about putting the what was it? We put we put fashion into Whoops, it's not working. Can't believe I've forgotten it. We put the fashion in electronics.
Richard Craft: Oh yeah, that's
Octavio Shirley: I
Richard Craft: a good one that. Yeah
Octavio Shirley: bet
Richard Craft: so.
Octavio Shirley: that'll catch on well. Okay, any last
Trent King: Yeah.
Octavio Shirley: worries, queries?
Raymond Brown: Twelve thirty.
Octavio Shirley: Okay. S
Trent King: Hmm.
Octavio Shirley: s I know what you're thinking. Okay then, lunchtime, yay.
Trent King: That's good.
Octavio Shirley: Okay, that felt a bit more like a something with order and and reason to it than the last one. This is quite fun actually.
Richard Craft: Wow.
Raymond Brown: Mm.
Richard Craft: Has anybo oh.
Octavio Shirley: I really
Richard Craft: Has anybody
Octavio Shirley: don't
Richard Craft: pressed okay, it vibrates. It's
Octavio Shirley: Yeah,
Richard Craft: pretty
Octavio Shirley: yeah.
Richard Craft: cool.
Raymond Brown: Yep.
Trent King: Check here.
Octavio Shirley: Wow you've your first page. I
Richard Craft: Yeah,
Octavio Shirley: was just writing really
Richard Craft: got small
Octavio Shirley: big.
Richard Craft: writing.
Raymond Brown: Yeah I've been using up the pages.
Richard Craft: I don't wanna waste it.
Octavio Shirley: I've finished the meeting now. Oh, everybody
Raymond Brown: Another
Octavio Shirley: needs
Raymond Brown: questionnaire.
Octavio Shirley: k questionnaire. | Trent King presented requirements of users as found in a company market study. The study showed that users want a fancier-looking but uncomplicated remote control, and are interested in speech recognition. He presented the age groups polled and said that the target marketing group should be users aged fifteen to thirty-five. Richard Craft presented several competitors' remotes and discussed the features that would make their own device more user-friendly. Raymond Brown gave a presentation on important internal components that would keep the project within its budget, and discussed possible materials and programmable features. Octavio Shirley gave several new requirements for the project to the group. The group discussed the features they would like to incorporate into the design in light of the new requirements and budget constraints. They decided to keep speech recognition as one of their components, and decided to include some programmable features, limit the number of button functions, and make the remote yellow and glow-in-the-dark, in an organic shape. The Program Manager said that he would ask to what extent the company motto had to be incorporated into the design. | 3 | amisum | test |
Elmer Walker: Think we can first
David Holland: Right
Robert Wall: Mm.
David Holland: it was function F_ eight or something. This one right
Robert Wall: Tha
David Holland: there.
Robert Wall: Okay.
David Holland: Okay.
Robert Wall: Who is gonna do a presentation
David Holland: Think we all Huh.
Robert Wall: You will as well?
David Holland: Oh I thought we all were. Yeah, I have
Robert Wall: Okay.
David Holland: one too, okay. S
Robert Wall: Yep.
David Holland: Whoops I forgot to put the thing on
Elmer Walker: Right. I just wanna 'cause basically I can't re I've really crap at remembering everyone's name so I just wanna rather than going uh Miss Marketing and Miss this and Miss that
David Holland: Okay.
Elmer Walker: wanted to know your names again.
Robert Wall: Okay I'm
Elmer Walker: just gonna leave this up here 'cause
David Holland: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: I'll
Robert Wall: Okay.
Elmer Walker: you know.
David Holland: Sure, that's a good idea.
Elmer Walker: So
Robert Wall: I'm Catherine with a C_. C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_.
Elmer Walker: Okay, and
David Holland: Uh Gabriel.
Elmer Walker: Gabriel. E_L_ is
David Holland: E_L_.
Elmer Walker: it? 'Kay. And you're
Ruben Anthony: I
Elmer Walker: s
Ruben Anthony: am Reissa. R_E_I_S_S_A_.
Elmer Walker: r
Ruben Anthony: Double S_ yeah yeah. Sorry.
Elmer Walker: R_E_I_S_S_ Okay. 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think
Robert Wall: Right. True.
Elmer Walker: Uh. right.
Ruben Anthony: Mm 'kay.
Elmer Walker: Okay, right, welcome to meeting B_. Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting, basically, uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now. I am your Project Manager, and, uh yeah, I'm just here to sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going, get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically. Um right, this for the purposes of this meeting what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you, what you've been working on for the last wee while, when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and, you know, filling out silly questionnaires and things. But hopefully you've been actually been doing something productive. So we're gonna each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: Um. Then we're gonna work, you know, from each of your presentations. We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all. Um and then we'll, yeah, we'll sort of conclude anything else comes up at the end of it.
Robert Wall: How long is the meeting?
Elmer Walker: This meeting it's not very long. It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now.
Robert Wall: Okay.
Elmer Walker: So I want each of your presentations to not be too long, five
Robert Wall: No problem.
Elmer Walker: five minutes, something like that. Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy, it doesn't matter, it it just it just says that you it's that's just one particular medium. If you haven't had time to prepare one, you can draw stuff on the noteboard, you can talk to us, you can you know however you want to do your little presentation, basically, you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing. 'Cause I don't. Uh okay. So um. You okay over there? Reissa,
Ruben Anthony: I'm fine. Yeah.
Elmer Walker: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here
Ruben Anthony: I uh yeah, yeah.
David Holland: Think she's
Elmer Walker: or are y or
David Holland: finishing
Ruben Anthony: D
Elmer Walker: are
Ruben Anthony: I mean,
Elmer Walker: y or are
Ruben Anthony: I
David Holland: up
Ruben Anthony: I'm
David Holland: her
Elmer Walker: you
David Holland: presentation.
Ruben Anthony: finishing
Elmer Walker: are you just
Ruben Anthony: off my
Elmer Walker: are you
Ruben Anthony: presentation.
Elmer Walker: just uh doing some Internet shopping there?
Ruben Anthony: No no. Uh I'm done. Okay.
Elmer Walker: Okay, jolly good. Alright, let's have um well, we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with. I
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: think the first thing we should look at is um probably the um what it is that it is actually supposed to be. So that's gonna be you Catherine,
Robert Wall: Okay.
Elmer Walker: if we wanna hear from you first.
Robert Wall: Okay. Um just connecting this.
Robert Wall: Are we
Elmer Walker: You
Robert Wall: getting
Elmer Walker: don't have to
Robert Wall: i
Elmer Walker: worry about screwing it in just
Robert Wall: Really? Okay.
Elmer Walker: there you go.
Robert Wall: Cool. Okay. So I've got a very quick uh Uh. Okay. so um I've oh no, you can't see a thing. Oh well, I'm gonna draw it on the board then. It's
David Holland: Oh.
Robert Wall: in blue uh, and I couldn't change it. We
Elmer Walker: Ah.
Robert Wall: it's fine on my screen, but never mind. So um the idea is that we've got the energy source um, which in our case will pr, oh well okay, never mind. So um I think maybe uh two batteries, I dunno what they're called six, or something like
Elmer Walker: Mm-hmm.
Robert Wall: that. Uh and then um then on the uh remote control itself will have um the sender for the signal, which could be uh an infra-red signal, um which will be sent by an electronic chip. And uh the chip will be controlled by the user interface. So we'll hear about that later from Gabriel.
Elmer Walker: Mm-hmm.
Robert Wall: And uh the sender will send to the telly itself an infra-red signal to tell it to switch on or switch channels. Um and that's it really for the working design.
Elmer Walker: Great. Okay.
Robert Wall: Sorry the presentation wasn't very uh clear
Elmer Walker: I prefer
Robert Wall: but
Elmer Walker: the pe I prefer the human
Robert Wall: Really?
Elmer Walker: touch personally.
Robert Wall: Cool.
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
Robert Wall: Um, should I erase this
Elmer Walker: Do you wanna
Robert Wall: or
Elmer Walker: just give us a moment, I just
Robert Wall: Okay.
Elmer Walker: wanna copy this down. Um
Robert Wall: Fine.
Elmer Walker: I dunno if you guys have got any questions for Catherine on any of this?
Robert Wall: Or suggestions?
Ruben Anthony: Is a battery like the only way of
Robert Wall: Well, it's just, you don't want it plugged in really, s
David Holland: Yeah, alternate energy source, like win wind power or
Ruben Anthony: No,
Robert Wall: In
Ruben Anthony: no
Robert Wall: indoors.
Elmer Walker: Yeah,
Ruben Anthony: No
Elmer Walker: you
Ruben Anthony: I meant
Elmer Walker: blow
Ruben Anthony: like
Elmer Walker: on it and i
Ruben Anthony: No 'cause like cha
David Holland: Bicycle
Ruben Anthony: 'cause
David Holland: power.
Ruben Anthony: always changing um um batteries can get like annoying. The battery's down and maybe, I dunno,
Robert Wall: I dunno, swi
Ruben Anthony: solar
Robert Wall: I
Ruben Anthony: charged?
Robert Wall: th I th I think changing your batteries once every six months is not really a pain, but
Elmer Walker: Yeah, it's
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: worked for the last fifty
Ruben Anthony: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: years you know.
David Holland: One question I have, and I don't know how much control we have over this is um, as far as the infra-red signal, do we have control over, you know, how far away you can be from the receiving unit, the the T_V_, and still have it be operational? I mean, maybe we want one with a strong signal stream.
Elmer Walker: How far away is your television?
Robert Wall: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: It's
David Holland: Uh
Elmer Walker: never gonna be more than
Robert Wall: Well, the thing
Elmer Walker: it's
Robert Wall: is
Elmer Walker: never
Robert Wall: uh
Elmer Walker: gonna be,
Robert Wall: you
Elmer Walker: you
Robert Wall: you
Elmer Walker: kno
Robert Wall: don't
Elmer Walker: unless you've got a T_V_ the size of a football pitch, it's not doesn't have to go that far, does it? Doesn't have to go through a wall, because you're not gonna be looking through a wall.
Ruben Anthony: Yeah,
David Holland: That's
Ruben Anthony: but if
David Holland: true.
Ruben Anthony: like you're on the phone in the other room and you need turn television off or something and you don't really want to go into the put the telephone down, and go into the other room.
Robert Wall: Well, we can make the the signal strong enough to go through walls if if you fancy it. I didn't think about that
Ruben Anthony: How about
Robert Wall: but
Ruben Anthony: Bluetooth? Instead of using infra-red, use Bluetooth.
Robert Wall: Why not?
Ruben Anthony: Isn't
Robert Wall: I just
Ruben Anthony: that a better
Robert Wall: think
Ruben Anthony: signal?
Robert Wall: that it's it's gonna cost more and
Elmer Walker: Yeah,
Robert Wall: I'm
Elmer Walker: yeah
Robert Wall: I'm
Elmer Walker: I
Robert Wall: not
Elmer Walker: d it
Robert Wall: sure
Elmer Walker: sounds
Robert Wall: it's
Elmer Walker: like you
Robert Wall: you're gonna use
Elmer Walker: you w
Robert Wall: it.
Elmer Walker: don't wanna overcomplicate things.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: You know we don't need
Robert Wall: It's a
Elmer Walker: it.
Robert Wall: fancy idea uh it's quite nice, but then I don't th I dunno, either you if you wanna watch the telly you're in the room, you are gonna
Elmer Walker: Yeah, exactly. Basically,
Robert Wall: But
Elmer Walker: we're we're desi we're designing and marketing a television remote control unit. We're not w w w w designing something that you can plug in a headset to and and you know connect to your laptop computer and stuff. It's uh
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Robert Wall: Oh, we can we can keep the idea if you i We can see
Ruben Anthony: 'S just an
Robert Wall: at
Ruben Anthony: idea.
Robert Wall: a later stage, maybe, I don't
Elmer Walker: Okay.
Elmer Walker: Right, well done, Catherine. Um Gab Gabriel let's
David Holland: Okay.
Elmer Walker: uh let's hear from you on on on
Robert Wall: Do you need the border?
Elmer Walker: such
David Holland: Uh
Elmer Walker: things.
David Holland: I'm just gonna use the PowerPoint
Robert Wall: Okay.
David Holland: uh.
Robert Wall: Sorry.
David Holland: Technical. Okay.
Ruben Anthony: Adjusting.
David Holland: Okay, so, while this is warming up, there it is
Ruben Anthony: Yeah.
David Holland: uh. So I'm doing the user interface design.
Elmer Walker: Mm-hmm.
David Holland: Yeah, and basically uh, as far as methods, I was I was looking looking at looking at uh already existing remotes, trying to find some inspiration from designs that are already out there. Thinking of what we can retain, what we can do away with, uh what we what we can perfect a little bit as far as design um. we don't want to do something that's too radical of a change, I guess, I mean people want a remote that's familiar, that has their favourite functionalities um and and does the basics,
Elmer Walker: Mm yeah.
David Holland: but Um so we can improve what's out there and maintain that, the basic functionality that people want. Um so things that seem like absolute must-haves uh would be a volume control, um so up-down keys for that, uh channel keys up-down, but then also a numerical key pad so that they can just key directly to the channel that they want, rather than doing up-down, and uh a mute button. Uh one thing that I didn't include here, that I forgot that we talked about last time, was doing um some sort of lock uh function. Uh,
Elmer Walker: Okay.
David Holland: I don't I dunno, uh that's one possibility. And so in the research that I was doing there's basically two types of remotes, ones that are engineering centred and ones that are more user centred, which I don't know if I can access the web page from here, but I can show you uh. Yeah. So this is a engineer centred one, so you see it's rather busy, but it also lets you play your movie, stop your movie, fast-forward, all this,
Elmer Walker: Mm-hmm.
David Holland: um freeze frame. Uh and this is a user centred one. Uh it's
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: it's easier to g just glance at this and see what's possible to do, you're not gonna be staring at it for five minutes.
Elmer Walker: Great.
David Holland: And I judging from what what we all talked about during our last meeting I kind of gathered that that's what we were going after, uh or the direction we were going in at least. Um. So, the engineering centred ones uh provide a lot of functionality, but it can be a little bit overwhelming, so the user centred ones just focus on ease of use. Uh and this sort of overlaps with what the marketing person uh, Reissa, because
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
David Holland: uh we we need to find out what what people want before we make firm decisions
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: on this. So uh, yeah, that's Ruben Anthony.
Elmer Walker: Great. Okay. Now that's I just have a q a q question for you. This w um research that you've been doing looki looking at other, you know, existing units stuff. Um have you found that anyone else has do has looked into the locking function
David Holland: No that
Elmer Walker: or
David Holland: that that seemed like a novel idea as f as far as I know. I mean obviously another exists like you like you said in in mobile phones.
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: That was sort of the inspiration for it. Um I've never seen that with in in all my years in in
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: the remote business. I've, haven't I've never seen a locking functionality. I dunno, what uh do you guys have a a yea or nay on that a feeling about whether that's really necessary?
Elmer Walker: Um I would say it's If it's simple to do, which I think it probably should be,
David Holland: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: even if it's a physical, you know, a f a like a f a physical switch or a physical cover for the remote,
David Holland: Mm-hmm.
Elmer Walker: even something like that,
David Holland: 'Kay.
Elmer Walker: um then yes, it's like, you know, like s you said earlier on ab ab ab a flip thing,
David Holland: Right.
Elmer Walker: something like that, being physical. Look into. Um I've had word down from head office that something that we should be centred well, something we should take into account is um we've gotta keep the corporate image within this remote control unit. It's gotta d look like it's in the R_ and R_.
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: You know, the the company it's it's, from what I can see from our other products, are yellow with blue writing on them.
David Holland: Right.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: Um.
David Holland: And our motto is is we put the fashion
Elmer Walker: We put
David Holland: in
Elmer Walker: the
David Holland: electronics.
Elmer Walker: fashion in electronics.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
David Holland: I
Elmer Walker: There
David Holland: think
Elmer Walker: you go.
David Holland: I think we have to carry that mental.
Elmer Walker: So it's kinda gotta look it's gotta look new and s you know something fashionable. If
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: if remote control well, if telephones can be fashionable, then maybe remote control units can be.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
David Holland: Well yeah these, I think, we can so we talked about the layout in my presentation and what I didn't mention yet really is is the sort of like the ergonomic
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: design.
Elmer Walker: Because we
David Holland: I t
Elmer Walker: need
David Holland: I think we can make big improvements over these two that you see here, I mean.
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: Uh,
Elmer Walker: Great.
David Holland: everything is going t ergonomic, you know, there's you know mice for your computers that are very ergonomic and keyboards and that could be one of our niches p sort of uh uh in the market, I guess.
Elmer Walker: Okay,
David Holland: Um.
Elmer Walker: fantastic. Right,
Ruben Anthony: Okay.
Elmer Walker: well done, Gabriel. Um Reissa.
Ruben Anthony: Where does it go
Elmer Walker: Let's
Ruben Anthony: into?
Elmer Walker: plug you in, baby.
Ruben Anthony: Here?
David Holland: Yeah.
Ruben Anthony: The blue thing.
David Holland: Uh, yeah, this is getting all. Mm. Yeah, then you just have to do function F_ eight and it should come up.
Ruben Anthony: Well, function F_ eight. No
Elmer Walker: Yeah,
David Holland: Yeah,
Elmer Walker: w it
David Holland: it just takes
Elmer Walker: it just
David Holland: a second
Ruben Anthony: oh.
Elmer Walker: takes a wee while.
David Holland: uh.
Ruben Anthony: Come on. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, for our marketing report uh we observed remote control users in a usability lab, and also gave so this is research and we also gave participants um questionnaires to fill out. Um total number of people tested were a hundred just so you know, so that hundred people were tested and these were the findings. So seventy five per cent of users find the remote control ugly. Okay, so they don't like the look of the remote control. Um eighty f eighty per cent of them would spend more money if the rem remote control looked really cool and fancy. So I think we all agree with that. Um current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user. So, they don't like like the way they operate it doesn't like match how people behave. Um per cent of the users say that they only use ten per cent of the buttons on a remote, so probably if you have like one, two, three, four, five, the whole up to z ten, they probably don't use those, they only use the up and down channel.
Elmer Walker: 'Cause we've only got five channels.
Ruben Anthony: exactly. That's another thing. Um seventy five per cent of users say they zap. Not quite sure what they mean, zap, goes like.
Elmer Walker: I think that's k flicking quickly between channels.
David Holland: Yeah, you
Ruben Anthony: Yeah.
David Holland: wanna navigate the channels quickly
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: I guess.
Ruben Anthony: Mm. Um takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. I think especially for uh the older generation. I know my grandmother doesn't like mobile phones, takes ages to work how to use. Anyway um and they also remotes often get lost in the room, so nobody can find them.
David Holland: Mm.
Ruben Anthony: So maybe tracking devices is a good idea. Um personal preferences.
Elmer Walker: Wow. You are a child of technology, aren't you?
Ruben Anthony: Um so yeah um I was thinking something easy to use, especially for older people. Um has to look really cool, flashy groovy for people to buy it. And it's easy to find, so I don't know whether maybe and also we asked them whether they wanted whether they'd be interested in um voice activating. So voice activation. So and this was what we came up with. Then if you look fifteen to twenty five this is age, sorry, age groups. So fifteen to twenty five said like ninety two ninety one per cent of them
Elmer Walker: So
Ruben Anthony: said
Elmer Walker: there
Ruben Anthony: yes.
Elmer Walker: you go, yeah.
Ruben Anthony: Um so basically the majority except for the forty five to fifty five year olds for some reason didn't want a voice activated one. And neither did the older generation, but the younger generation who we are catering for, like who have most of the money nowadays, do want a voice act speech recognition
Elmer Walker: Uh but do the younger
Ruben Anthony: in a remote.
Elmer Walker: generation have the money?
David Holland: No I would I
Elmer Walker: They
David Holland: would
Elmer Walker: they
David Holland: say the
Elmer Walker: don't.
David Holland: older
Elmer Walker: It's
David Holland: the older
Elmer Walker: older
David Holland: people,
Elmer Walker: generation, they're the ones
Ruben Anthony: Well
Elmer Walker: that have gone
Ruben Anthony: the
David Holland: yeah.
Elmer Walker: out
Ruben Anthony: twenty
Elmer Walker: and
Ruben Anthony: five to thirty five year old, and thirty five, and the thirty five to forty five, forty five point seven per cent
Elmer Walker: People
Ruben Anthony: say no, so
Elmer Walker: people from the age of thirty f there's a big drop off there. For people up to the age of thirty five, you're kinda saying, yeah, they want it. Um but no they're not sort of most people that have the money are people from the age of thirty five to fifty five,
David Holland: Yeah, that would be my guess as
Elmer Walker: uh
David Holland: well.
Elmer Walker: 'cause they're the ones
Ruben Anthony: So
Elmer Walker: that
Ruben Anthony: they
Elmer Walker: have
Ruben Anthony: don't
Elmer Walker: been working for twenty years. Um d
Ruben Anthony: Well
Elmer Walker: and tha and that's a that's quite a minority there, so yeah, it's not even like fifty fifty that's th thirty five per cent.
Ruben Anthony: These guys are growing up.
David Holland: about just from the the prospective of our manufacturing cost? I mean if if it's twelve fifty per unit.
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: I mean, okay, there's
Ruben Anthony: Voice activation might not be the best.
Elmer Walker: I would say scra
David Holland: Uh.
Elmer Walker: I'd say scrap that straight off.
Ruben Anthony: Um also with um with buttons, a thing called R_S_I_, so wrist sense
David Holland: Repetitive strain uh
Ruben Anthony: Huh?
David Holland: rep repetitive strain injury
Ruben Anthony: Yeah,
David Holland: or like
Ruben Anthony: repetitive
David Holland: from doing
Ruben Anthony: strains injury, so they don't I think people who watch T_V_ maybe too often, keep changing channel hurts their wrist. I
Robert Wall: Well
Ruben Anthony: don't think
Robert Wall: maybe they shouldn't watch
Elmer Walker: So
Ruben Anthony: so.
Robert Wall: so
Elmer Walker: y
Robert Wall: much
Elmer Walker: so
Robert Wall: T_V_
Elmer Walker: it's so
Robert Wall: then.
Elmer Walker: it's so you got so that's something we should have a look into then
Ruben Anthony: Yeah
Elmer Walker: i when
David Holland: Mm.
Ruben Anthony: maybe
Elmer Walker: desi
Ruben Anthony: not
Elmer Walker: when
Ruben Anthony: so hard.
Elmer Walker: designing the ergonomics of see
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: have a look if um there's any w any medical
Robert Wall: Maybe
Elmer Walker: background
Robert Wall: it could
Elmer Walker: we
Robert Wall: be,
Elmer Walker: can
Robert Wall: instead
Elmer Walker: find
Robert Wall: of
Elmer Walker: out about
Robert Wall: pressing
Elmer Walker: this.
Robert Wall: button it could be just touching a
Ruben Anthony: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: Let's
Ruben Anthony: Maybe
Elmer Walker: jus we just want need to cover our arses so that people aren't gonna sue us in ten years' time, say your remote control gave Ruben Anthony repetitive strain injury.
David Holland: Yeah, we
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
David Holland: should probably consult with our legal department uh.
Elmer Walker: Yeah. They're having a lunch break at the moment, but yeah.
Ruben Anthony: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: I'll see if I
David Holland: Yeah.
Elmer Walker: can get see if I can get hold of them for the next meeting.
David Holland: I think we can do some really in in that department, the the ergonomic department,
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: we can make some some really good improvements.
Ruben Anthony: Mm. Maybe th the buttons not so high up so you don't have to press so much,
David Holland: Mm.
Ruben Anthony: or we just like flat buttons, something. Yeah.
Elmer Walker: Okay.
Ruben Anthony: So that is Ruben Anthony.
Elmer Walker: That's great, thank you very much for that, Reissa. Um okay, so we've basically we've decide we've d we've decided that it's gonna be, you know uh, we're going for a basic television remote. It's gotta be safe to use, it's gotta look cool.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: It's gotta be cheap. S um.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: Now going back to the uh industrial design of it, you know, we were looking at whether to use maybe infra-red or Bluetooth. I think, we should just go with the simplest option on everything, uh and that would be infra-red, energy source, that would be batteries. Uh mean we we can look into using the s, you know, the little tiny weeny batteries, all like special long-lasting batteries. Um. But a in there's no I don't think there's any point in making a remote control unit that's gonna last for fifty years, because technology will have changed and, you know, we won't have televisions in ten years' time. So
Robert Wall: Yep.
Elmer Walker: I think we're all um pretty sussed on that. Um anyone have any questions?
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: Everybody happy in their work?
David Holland: Yeah, it seems like we're all on the pretty much on the same page.
Elmer Walker: Now this is good, we've got a good structure going on. We all know where we're going to. Have you been ge has have any of you lot been getting loads of crap spam on your computers?
David Holland: Oh it's probably just you, 'cause you're Elmer Walker.
Ruben Anthony: Well, just questionnaires.
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: Sell trying to sell your things.
Elmer Walker: Yeah, stuff. Um okay. Do oh have you guys found out if we can if we can e-mail stuff to each other?
Ruben Anthony: Yeah, you can.
Elmer Walker: Right.
David Holland: Okay.
Elmer Walker: Do all you all know my e-mail address?
David Holland: No I don't.
Ruben Anthony: I
Robert Wall: Well,
David Holland: I
Ruben Anthony: think he's participant
Robert Wall: in the project
Ruben Anthony: one,
Robert Wall: announcement,
Ruben Anthony: aren't you?
Robert Wall: you've got the addresses, I think.
David Holland: Uh
Robert Wall: So Project Manager, it's
David Holland: Oh, it's
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Robert Wall: one
David Holland: one
Robert Wall: at
David Holland: oh okay. Yeah.
Elmer Walker: Can
Robert Wall: A_M_I_.
Elmer Walker: you all d e-mail Ruben Anthony your e-mail addresses?
David Holland: Well it's just
Robert Wall: You have
David Holland: w
Robert Wall: them
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Robert Wall: i
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David Holland: par participant
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David Holland: participant
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David Holland: two.
Robert Wall: an e-mail.
Elmer Walker: Send
Robert Wall: You want
Elmer Walker: Ruben Anthony, yeah
Robert Wall: to have friends, don't you?
Elmer Walker: yeah, okay.
David Holland: So are we headed towards like a b a big yellow and black remote as far as maybe that's our next meeting
Elmer Walker: Is
David Holland: that
Elmer Walker: it
David Holland: we
Elmer Walker: yellow
David Holland: discuss
Elmer Walker: and black
David Holland: that.
Elmer Walker: or is it yellow and blue? I I kind of thought it was blue writing on a yellow background, but I might be just going
David Holland: Well,
Elmer Walker: a bit
David Holland: it's like white on i white and blue on a black background with white with yellow borders.
Elmer Walker: Okay.
David Holland: Maybe that's
Elmer Walker: Well,
David Holland: like getting ahead of ourselves.
Robert Wall: It wouldn't
Elmer Walker: maybe
Robert Wall: be
Elmer Walker: you can come up with a few with a couple of different
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: ideas?
Ruben Anthony: Can't we have different colours in the remotes, so somebody can choose different col like does
Elmer Walker: Well,
Ruben Anthony: it have
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: see the
Ruben Anthony: to be
Elmer Walker: thing
Ruben Anthony: of a certain?
Elmer Walker: is is we've gotta keep the company image. It's gotta say people have gotta look at this remote control and instantly recognise that it's a Real Reaction
Ruben Anthony: But if
Elmer Walker: i
David Holland: Mm.
Ruben Anthony: it's
Elmer Walker: product.
Ruben Anthony: a R_R_, it would be Real Reaction, like if it had
Elmer Walker: There's
Ruben Anthony: a symbol
Elmer Walker: loads
Ruben Anthony: on
Elmer Walker: of
Ruben Anthony: it.
Elmer Walker: companies that
David Holland: Mm.
Elmer Walker: called R_R_. This is slog but this is the slogan, this is the the the
David Holland: And
Elmer Walker: the
David Holland: this
Elmer Walker: type.
David Holland: is something that came on down from from the higher ups,
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
David Holland: so, I mean, we are sort of beholden to them.
Ruben Anthony: So we have to have it one colour.
Elmer Walker: Well, not necessarily.
David Holland: Not one colour, but the
Elmer Walker: But
David Holland: pattern
Elmer Walker: we have to
David Holland: needs
Elmer Walker: incorporate
David Holland: to be recognisable.
Elmer Walker: it.
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: Not necessarily even if i it just has to ye but you have to look at the product and instantly know that it's one of
Robert Wall: Well
Elmer Walker: our
Robert Wall: you
Elmer Walker: products
Robert Wall: could
Elmer Walker: as
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Elmer Walker: opposed to a Sony product or a, you know, a Panasonic product. It's got to
Robert Wall: It could
Elmer Walker: so
Robert Wall: come
Elmer Walker: maybe, so you can have a look at our our other products and see if they all follow a s similar vein, perhaps.
Robert Wall: But it could come in different colours and have the R_R_ colours just
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
Robert Wall: somewhere like just around the lock button could be the R_R_ logo
Elmer Walker: Yeah.
Robert Wall: or colours and
Ruben Anthony: Mm.
Robert Wall: If.
Elmer Walker: Quite poss yeah. Well this is all your department. Mm okay. Well, well done everybody. And um, I think we uh stop for lunch now.
David Holland: Yeah, pretty soon I think, I guess that's now.
Ruben Anthony: Are we are we finished ahead of schedule?
Elmer Walker: We might possibly have done.
Robert Wall: Cool.
David Holland: Alright, see you all soon.
Elmer Walker: If we've if we've finished at five minutes before the meeting's supposed to finish, then that means we get an extra five minutes for lunch.
Ruben Anthony: 'Kay uh.
Elmer Walker: Yeah, there you go.
Elmer Walker: Right. I just have to there's a few little bits and pieces I have to write down, but Take your headsets off, kick back, smoke 'em if you got 'em. | Elmer Walker had the team members re-introduce themselves and then briefed the team on his own duties and on the meeting agenda. Robert Wall discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed options for batteries and infra-red signals. David Holland discussed what features the remote was required to have and presented two existing products which were based on different concepts. Elmer Walker then introduced some new requirements to bear in mind when designing the remote. Ruben Anthony presented research on consumer preferences on remotes in general and on voice recognition and the team discussed the option to have an ergonomically designed remote. Elmer Walker briefed the team on the decisions made so far and the team discussed color options for the remote. | 3 | amisum | test |
Vincent Yost: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um development meetings for our our new television remote control. Uh this follows our very successful entry into the the consumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on, taking advantage of the uh the the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh uh feelings in in consumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that's possible for everybody, uh one that everybody wants, uh at a good price for the consumer and at a good price for the company. Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that. Um and uh b in no particular order because ev everybody is uh just
Al Wilder: Mm.
Vincent Yost: as vital to this project um I'll just go round th the table, Andrew, marketing, um m Kendra with the uh um designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrial design. Um. What's uh the the th th project is is here to do, is is to to get this this project up and moving, ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want, uh everybody has a contribution to make and uh everybody feel free to interrupt Al Wilder at any time to to say what you want to say. Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um everybody knows everybody else, everybody's worked for the the company for a while, if if an anybody feels that they need to say more about themselves please do, if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their their background so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh uh everybody's experience is please do so. Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves, in fact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you you're looking to make. So we'll start with Andrew.
Al Wilder: Oh my name's Andrew I'm a I'm Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and uh project for this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what people want to want to uh get from this new design, what people want to like and from a fashion point of view and the practicality point of view.
Vincent Yost: Right Kendra.
Jeremy Hartman: I'm Kendra and I'm Us User Interface and um I haven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be working on the design.
Vincent Yost: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so.
Jeremy Hartman: Right. Yep, I'm just open to being creative.
Vincent Yost: Yep, good.
Andrew Alvarez: Uh I'm Katie, I'm Andrew Alvarez I'll just be I guess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh yeah.
Vincent Yost: Okay, very very quickly, um this I don't want to make this meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank. Everybody says what they what they want to say, uh and we don't want to be constrained by uh kind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is what we want to do. The the remote control needs to be original, there has to be something about it that uh other remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different, uh I want one, um and that goes along with being trendy, uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario. User-friendly as as we all know, remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to make ours one that people can pick up and think oh yes that's it's obvious how that works, uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeah that's something that I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'm gonna have one. And last but not least, or indeed first of all, it it must make the company money, and we make the company money by producing what the consumer wants. The uh the further work to be done is i the um the functional design, uh what it uh what it must actually do, the uh conceptual design, uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get that into production. Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is the white board and uh uh let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the prompt slide here, um In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the the wires, that we don't do that, um So I I everybody knows what whiteboard is so we'll um uh we'll do a virtual drawing on the on on the whiteboard of of your your own uh uh favourite animal, but le let's go round the table, your favourite animal.
Al Wilder: Um, badger.
Vincent Yost: Mm and why?
Al Wilder: Uh it's it's got nice contrast with
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh.
Al Wilder: black and white and uh and
Vincent Yost: Oh
Al Wilder: they're,
Vincent Yost: right uh my
Al Wilder: the
Vincent Yost: my wife says my beard looks like a badger's arse 'cause of the the white streaks in it. Kendra.
Jeremy Hartman: Um probably a duck I just I li I like the way they look and they're just nice animals and I like how they can fly or swim or walk around
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh.
Jeremy Hartman: or whatever.
Vincent Yost: Right, okay.
Andrew Alvarez: Uh 's horses, no particular reason why.
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh, fair enough yeah. I'm not sure that I've got any favourite animal to be quite honest, I think homo sapien because of their their uh overall ability to uh uh
Al Wilder: Make mobile phones and T_V_ remotes
Vincent Yost: Sorry?
Al Wilder: to make T_V_ remotes.
Vincent Yost: Indeed absolutely yes, tha that's um Okay and uh w we need to keep in mind here that the uh we want to sell this for for twenty five Euro um, we want to m make an overall profit for the the company of fifty million Euros so we're we're looking at selling a lot of these um ag across the the entire planet and and we're looking at a gross profit of fifty percent. It needs to cost twelve Euros fifty to make Um. so we're not only looking at a a very trendy original product, we're looking at making it at a very good price. Um, okay, um would anybody like t like to to start by giving their o um sort of quick views of of current remote controls.
Jeremy Hartman: Well to use with all the different buttons and uh it's handiest when you have one that works both the D_V_D_ player or whatever and the T_V_ as well. Um, but that it's easy to if you can switch back and forth instead of
Vincent Yost: No.
Jeremy Hartman: having to press a bunch of different buttons and so I think it's is best when they're clearly labelled and you can see which buttons you're supposed to use, you know.
Vincent Yost: Any any thoughts about buttons or any oth other way of approaching the p the uh the problem? Or anybody else, strong feelings about remote controls? Are there you know, bad ones they've used or good ones they've used or ones
Andrew Alvarez: Um
Vincent Yost: that they've lost and never found again?
Andrew Alvarez: I think it's important that you should be able to when you when you press the buttons it'll actually pick up the signals from kind of anywhere and you shouldn't have to like contort yourself
Al Wilder: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: the signal.
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Al Wilder: Think a lot of the time, remotes that come with T_V_ players and T_V_s and D_V_
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: players, like they aren't like an area that's put a lot of effort into, they're very boring, very plain. Like it's
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: very a very like um making a a stylish remote control would be a very like Easily put us one step ahead of the current competition.
Vincent Yost: Um what so wh what's in in what particular style features are you thinking about?
Al Wilder: Um. Something that looks looks doesn't look like remote control. So if you want, something that looks like uh something that makes you think oh what's this? Like this pen doesn't really look like a pen, but it makes
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh.
Al Wilder: you think oh. So, sorry that's a bit vague.
Vincent Yost: Yeah d no I mean do you think there's a risk if it doesn't look like remote control, people won't see it as a remote control um and uh
Al Wilder: Uh I suppose suppose that's up to the marketing to to make make people aware of the product.
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh. Any other thoughts about um th the physical appearance of a of remote controls?
Jeremy Hartman: I think something that's comfortable to hold because sometimes you get the remote controls that are just those
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Jeremy Hartman: big, rectangular
Al Wilder: Mm.
Jeremy Hartman: things and uh they're kind of awkward to hold onto, so something that's more comfortable that fits in a person's hand better.
Vincent Yost: I mean th the thing that i immediately comes to mind is computer mouses which
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Vincent Yost: um
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Al Wilder: Yeah.
Vincent Yost: I mean y you get all sorts of shapes
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Vincent Yost: in the shops and s you know some quite fancy ones
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Vincent Yost: um than the some from personal experience which look nice but aren't particularly comfortable.
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Vincent Yost: Um any thoughts about buttons or flat screens or uh uh
Al Wilder: Well from the mouse idea you could, remote is a piece of plastic with the big rubber buttons sticking out of it which you press, whereas if you want could all be flat and the buttons are very kind of almost subtle that instead of being raised out of the device uh you push into device you see, like a mouse button.
Vincent Yost: Yes, I mean the only thing is if if you're watching television in a in a a darkened room
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: I suppose.
Vincent Yost: um you need to be able to uh fi
Al Wilder: Easily, yeah
Vincent Yost: find
Al Wilder: yeah.
Vincent Yost: the button buttons easily.
Jeremy Hartman: But maybe they could be concave instead of sticking up to have them be kind of down so you could feel them
Al Wilder: Mm.
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Jeremy Hartman: better.
Vincent Yost: Yeah, that's uh must admit I don't think I've ever seen one with concave buttons, that's uh certainly be different. Um do we need it to uh I can't think of any re remote controls that I know of that actually light up at all. Do we
Jeremy Hartman: Oh yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: Mm that
Vincent Yost: do
Andrew Alvarez: would
Vincent Yost: we
Andrew Alvarez: be
Vincent Yost: want
Andrew Alvarez: good.
Vincent Yost: uh
Jeremy Hartman: Like a like a mobile phone?
Vincent Yost: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Al Wilder: Mm,
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: yeah that would be good.
Vincent Yost: Okay. So, Andrew have you had any thoughts yet about how we might market something which there are already millions out there and that we want to uh uh uh t take over the entire um the planet with?
Al Wilder: Mm-hmm, um especially if we try to sell, what two million of them. Oh sorry, four million of 'em, but uh I think if w if we market it as as not as not well this you c you could either market it as the point of view we could have the two we could have parallel marketing s schemes where you've got one where it appeals to people that want to have the new device that looks cool,
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: is fashionable and like you just it's it's like uh it's one that rather than ra I wan I want rather than a kind of a need relationship
Vincent Yost: Mm-hmm.
Al Wilder: with the device, but that might considering the act what the device is for and the nature of some people might not like respond to having a device that they just looks nice, therefore they want it so make it practical at the same time. I think it's this is gonna have to appeal to people that want device that can enhance their living room uh
Vincent Yost: Mm-hmm.
Al Wilder: but also a device that uh is practically sound.
Vincent Yost: Mm-hmm.
Al Wilder: So um, I dunno we'll have to decide which which angle we're gonna go to or both.
Vincent Yost: Okay,
Al Wilder: If you.
Vincent Yost: yeah, yeah, well I d I think an any uh any facets that we identify w we aim need to aim for for all of.
Al Wilder: Mm.
Vincent Yost: Um okay well first thoughts on um the the industrial design side.
Andrew Alvarez: Oh I think it's it's remote controls are kind of a unique object 'cause it's you depend on them so much, but you don't i i it's you sort of just assume they're always gonna work, you don't think of them as a comp like a computer can break down and you're kinda like oh well fair enough there's all these complex things going on, it's gonna something's gonna get messed up eventually. They they just need to be very very dependable because people sort of take them for granted and then if your remote control breaks it's God forbid you actually get up and manually change the channel
Vincent Yost: Indeed.
Andrew Alvarez: it just it needs to be very effective, very always dependable. Uh I don't think we should make it too small I 'cause I think it needs to it can't be too big like you were saying big an and huge and um awkward, but also if you make it too small kinda like you know how mobile phones are getting smaller and smaller um, it's just gonna end up under a couch cushion somewhere
Vincent Yost: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: and um yeah. But so yes dependable, and have a good medium range size.
Vincent Yost: Okay, and um colours, materials? Kendra, anyone?
Jeremy Hartman: Well, most I think most of the remote controls now are either just black or grey, so maybe we should go with something different or be able to I was just thinking of um what they're doing with mobile phones now how you can get the different um what are they called? Like the face-plates
Vincent Yost: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: Mm,
Jeremy Hartman: that you change
Andrew Alvarez: mm-hmm.
Jeremy Hartman: so we could have maybe I don't know if it would be feasible to do something with that, where you can change the face-plates or have kind of a
Vincent Yost: Uh-huh.
Jeremy Hartman: variety so people can get different different things. Have it kind of look how they want to, different colours, things like that,
Vincent Yost: Right.
Jeremy Hartman: probably just plastic because that's always the lightest.
Vincent Yost: Yeah. Okay that's uh Again I don't think that's ever been done before, it's uh
Andrew Alvarez: Mm-hmm.
Vincent Yost: the sort of the sort of thing that would get people uh thinking yes that's something that I haven't got and uh might need so. Uh Andrew, any thoughts about uh how we might market interchangeable fronts on on the remote control?
Al Wilder: Um, well we could either market it together by getting control in a set colour or with like you buy it with several uh like you ge you get the f uh the face-plates with it when you buy or as a separate thing, but uh maybe thinking of that, it's considering the nature of the device, maybe a second thing like a second campaign to market
Andrew Alvarez: Mm.
Al Wilder: new facials for your to your might go a bit astray since
Vincent Yost: Yeah.
Al Wilder: it is the kind of thing where y you generally get one and then forget about it. Unless
Vincent Yost: Yeah.
Al Wilder: you were trying to
Andrew Alvarez: Well you could come
Vincent Yost: I
Andrew Alvarez: up
Vincent Yost: think
Andrew Alvarez: with like novelty ones, like they've done with the the mobile phones, you can get like different you know scenes from different movies and stuff
Al Wilder: Mm.
Andrew Alvarez: on
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: the remote control
Al Wilder: Oh it's
Andrew Alvarez: and
Al Wilder: that's
Andrew Alvarez: sorta
Al Wilder: a that's a good idea.
Andrew Alvarez: stagger the release of them and get people like oh I want that cover on it now and
Jeremy Hartman: Yeah.
Andrew Alvarez: that'll keep them
Vincent Yost: Mm-mm.
Al Wilder: Mm.
Andrew Alvarez: spending money.
Vincent Yost: Right,
Al Wilder: Yeah true.
Vincent Yost: okay I think we've got um a good idea now. We uh meeting is uh Needs to be k uh wrapped up fairly quickly. So uh um we've got thirty minutes to start looking at the um at the design in more detail. Um then we'll we will reconvene in in thirty minutes and try to get some of these ideas uh uh more formalised. Uh thank you very much indeed.
Jeremy Hartman: Okay.
Andrew Alvarez: Thank you. | Vincent Yost opens the meeting by welcoming everybody and saying they will be developing a new television remote control. Then each group member states his/her name and role in the group. Vincent Yost states that the remote needs to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The further work will be on the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Since they all know what a whiteboard is, they do a virtual drawing by each stating their favorite animal. Vincent Yost tells them the project budget. They proceed to discuss problems with current remotes as well as preferable styles and looks, such as using face-plates so the look is changable. Vincent Yost closes the meeting. | 3 | amisum | test |
Kim Kelly: Okay, welcome to the second meeting of this group. Um I'll briefly go through the uh notes of the of the last meeting uh just done in in note form and I haven't attributed anything to individuals, because we're working strictly as a team here and uh n nobody's working
Richard Hunt: Sorry.
Kim Kelly: equally, so uh. Um we we s we saw that the the problems with existing remote controls were the uh b a boring shape and boring colour. Um and and we we saw that the what we needed to to to make sure the device um controls several items, that switching was easy, that you shouldn't need to point the thing at uh anything in particular, um that it need to be contoured to make it interesting, that the keys might be concave, simply because that hasn't been done before that we know of. Um should have interchangeable fascias so people can personalise it, um illuminated so that people can see it in dark rooms. Um and that people might want it as as in addition to their existing remote controls. Um and that it sh it should just always work, whenever you uh um mm uh use it. And that it shouldn't be too small, mm that it it gets lost. Um.
Kim Kelly: Now uh uh I'll shortly ask for for three three presentations. Uh before I do that, however, I will go through some new project requirements that um the the management have placed on us and uh will be challenging in terms of what we discussed at the first meeting. Um the uh the ma the management has had it's own thoughts on this and uh the they don't necessarily agree with with what we uh we thought. Um and and then we'll as a result of that we will then talk through the the functions that we see the the device um actually b carrying out, and we have uh forty minutes to do this in and I uh
Kim Kelly: Anyway. Okay. Now, the n the new requirements are um the the management team see that um teletext is no longer of any importance given the uh the rise of the internet. Um and and they want it only to cover televisions. Um now, what is not q quite clear from their directive is whether they mean th they don't want it to cover teletext or whether they don't want it to cover, you know, videos, D_V_D_s, um satellite boxes, which uh I mean we saw as being fundamental to the uh to the exercise. The um the actual wording of the directive is that it should cover television only. Um and on that basis um I I think we we need to bear that in mind, um but possibly uh keep at the backs of our minds that the reality that people even when they uh no longer they don't look at teletext anymore, they certainly do look at other things. Um the device has to incorporate the company logo and colours. Um the the logo uh being at b the bottom of the screen there, the the the two R_s in grey against uh a yellow background. Um now this doesn't necessarily mean that we have to give up some of our ideas about making it attractive to the t to the market. But uh do do introduce some some constraints as to how we might do that. Um it also has to be simple, which to some extent goes along w with the first one, and that we've already said that it must be simple 'cause that's what people want anyway. Um but they also want it to be simple to get it to the market quickly, which um mm uh is is is their choice, but uh um we we need to talk that through. Um okay, so uh after the meeting it'll be summarised and uh um notes sent out and uh etcetera. Okay, so we'll first of all mm have individual reports from everybody. Um again I there is no order of precedence here um so I I I'll leave it up to you to who who who thinks they would like to go go first?
Robert Hegyi: Uh I don't mind.
Kim Kelly: P fine.
Robert Hegyi: Uh can I the cable?
Kim Kelly: Oh sorry, you can indeed.
Robert Hegyi: Cheers.
Robert Hegyi: I got a how do I start there?
Kim Kelly: Oh, if you click on the um uh the one that that looks like a projection screen, no the one to the right of that.
Robert Hegyi: That one.
Kim Kelly: That one.
Robert Hegyi: Cool. Well these are functionality requirements from the our our guys down in the the research lab. Took hundred people and covered all the aspects of what um is needed by people and what they want to see. Um everything kinda and how individual functions are how how how often they're used how much their and stuff. And general opinions about current current remotes. See that, as we kinda noticed, seventy five percent of people find their remote controls ugly. So some kind of a new style should be incorporated that's less ugly. Uh along with um looking less ugly, if it looks better, eighty percent of people said they'd spend more money on it. Which is a a plus for us, if we can make it look better, it'd be uh more cost effective and we can put the price up. Current remote controls do not match the operating behaviour of the user. I can empl I kinda take that to mean as um they they don't uh they, yeah, they only use they only work for the television or yeah like as in in my flat I've got six remote controls for a stereo system, a digital box, a D_V_D_ player, a video player and T_V_. If it was uh I mean th my behaviour is to use multiple things at the same time and multiple remotes aren't really matched well to my behaviour. Uh again, seventy five percent is seventy five percent of users say they zap a lot. I took to mean that they just they use it a lot, they use it regularly rather than standing up and manually change channels or volume. And uh yeah, uh I think the big issue is fifty percent users only use ten percent of the buttons, 'cause uh wh if we got a remote that like well we'll have some buttons taken off by the lack of teletext, but uh oh and we're going to see uh on the uh that some of the functions like audio settings aren't h hardly ever used and used very aren't considered relevant by the user. So I think maybe fewer buttons, which also make the design look sleeker, I dunno. Uh um yeah and uh frustrations of like people losing remote control. I dunno
Kim Kelly: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: maybe some kind of system of you press a button on the T_V_ or maybe that's b it would have to incorporate, but like some kind of system where you can f use something else to find the remote control. Maybe like it'll beep or something. And um, yep, the uh time taken to learn new remote controls is Uh don't want to make it too complicated, easy to use for uh new like first time users and stuff. And uh repetitive strain injury, I suppose we should make it more comfortable and make ma possibly even use have to make it, yeah, fewer buttons, like I was saying about the whole mice the mouse idea of it feels more comfortable. Maybe don't even
Kim Kelly: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: have to hold it as such.
Kim Kelly: Gosh, must be some telly addicts out there if they get R_S_I_ from their television remote, is all I can say.
Robert Hegyi: But uh yeah. It also asked um if we would if people would pay more for speech recognition and younger people say they would. And uh there was another section on our on the report for uh L_C_D_ displays, but the data wasn't there, so. I
Kim Kelly: Mm. Right.
Robert Hegyi: don't actually know what the results for that were,
Kim Kelly: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: so. May be incrementally emitting, but yeah.
Kim Kelly: Yeah, I must say that um the uh I c can't remember what um f you know phone service I was using the other day, but that had sorta speech recognition which worked uh remarkably well, so that is indeed a uh um
Robert Hegyi: And
Kim Kelly: a thought
Robert Hegyi: uh
Kim Kelly: and it it cuts out uh
Robert Hegyi: it would cut out the R_S_I_
Kim Kelly: I was was
Robert Hegyi: as
Kim Kelly: gonna
Robert Hegyi: well
Kim Kelly: say, you
Robert Hegyi: if
Kim Kelly: can't
Robert Hegyi: you
Kim Kelly: get a lot of R_S_I_, j just get jaw ache. Okay, sorry.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah, um oh yeah, so possibly the speech recognition is possibly something could add into the design. Oh, I've got some other things I couldn't fit onto this presentation. Um. You see this okay? Almost no? It's sorry it's a bit. I'll read out to you. Uh functionality, uh like people's opinions on functionality, the relevance to the remote and how often they're used. So um like the power. Using the using the d swi the power switch to switch on T_V_ is a high relevance of nine, but it's not frequently used. You see what I mean? Whereas
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: channel selection, which is very high relevance
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Robert Hegyi: is used the most. So m we can maybe even start to cut down on or I was possibly even thinking of a design that maybe some of the buttons are hidden from everyday use. Maybe like uh a folding ledge or something. So that we can maybe
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: go into the channel settings and the audio settings, which are low relevance and rarely used. And keep the v volume selection and channel selection very easily
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Richard Hunt: It could
Kim Kelly: I mean
Richard Hunt: be oh uh was gonna say uh like the phones that they use? Have you seen
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Richard Hunt: the new mo mobile phones that
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: flip out and they have the
Robert Hegyi: Oh yeah.
Richard Hunt: like texting, and then the numbers on one side, so you could have
Kim Kelly: Mm.
Richard Hunt: the most used buttons on top and
Kim Kelly: Hmm,
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: hmm.
Richard Hunt: flip
Robert Hegyi: Yeah,
Richard Hunt: it out
Robert Hegyi: like the one
Richard Hunt: or
Robert Hegyi: that
Richard Hunt: something.
Robert Hegyi: like slides back
Kim Kelly: Uh.
Robert Hegyi: and the buttons are concealed
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: Should
Robert Hegyi: underneath.
Kim Kelly: we
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: actually bite the bullet here? If people really don't use those buttons to any extent at all um
Robert Hegyi: Just remove them completely?
Kim Kelly: remove them altogether.
Richard Hunt: That might be the
Kim Kelly: I wonder whether we could get the remote control with no buttons at all if we went for voice recognition, given that um the Um now the the age structure we were looking at um I mean w we had usage by age structure, what we didn't have was what proportion of people using remotes were in those particular age groups. Now
Robert Hegyi: Uh yeah.
Kim Kelly: do we know whether they Forty no sorry for forty five to fifty five age group, uh to put myself right in the middle of it, um u use remote controls to a great extent. Yes we
Robert Hegyi: Um no this is for
Kim Kelly: That would 've
Robert Hegyi: pay
Kim Kelly: speech
Robert Hegyi: more for
Kim Kelly: recogn
Robert Hegyi: speech recognition.
Kim Kelly: right. So, we're looking at um well again, we don't know the relative proportion the relative numbers in the age groups.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah, that's true.
Kim Kelly: If we wanted something different, truly different, then the buttonless
Jeffrey Randolph: P
Kim Kelly: remote control
Jeffrey Randolph: Well the only
Kim Kelly: w would
Jeffrey Randolph: problem
Kim Kelly: be it.
Jeffrey Randolph: I can think of with that is if you've got a lot of people that don't wanna be bothered learning how to use new rem remote controls. If you just kind of take away everything that they're used to knowing, that's gonna be quite a change.
Kim Kelly: But if you just
Jeffrey Randolph: It
Kim Kelly: lift
Jeffrey Randolph: might
Kim Kelly: it up and say, channel one or
Robert Hegyi: Or even
Kim Kelly: B_B_C_
Robert Hegyi: I mean you could even just have it left on. You
Richard Hunt: Maybe
Robert Hegyi: could just
Richard Hunt: i
Robert Hegyi: put it down once on top your T_V_ and never have to
Richard Hunt: Yeah, have a big kind of like the satellite box or the cable box and then it doesn't matter where in the room you are, you won't
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: lose
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Richard Hunt: it.
Kim Kelly: It c well it I can I can see technical problems
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: with that in terms
Richard Hunt: No.
Kim Kelly: of the, you know, the sound from the television, because if somebody actually on the television says
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: uh
Robert Hegyi: B_B_C_
Richard Hunt: Oh.
Robert Hegyi: one.
Kim Kelly: uh, you know, I_T_V_ and you're watching B_B_C_ then
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: then it might um change itself, so it probably needs to be um
Richard Hunt: Yeah, that's true.
Kim Kelly: possibly actually need a button on it just
Robert Hegyi: yeah.
Kim Kelly: to activate it. Or or something just to identify that you've lifted it up and it's use. And and then
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: just say, oh I don't know, a thought and and then uh I mean that that would certainly be uh truly different. Um 'cause uh you know audio settings, nought point eight percent. I mean if they weren't there,
Robert Hegyi: Mm-mm.
Kim Kelly: would people miss them?
Jeffrey Randolph: But look at the importance of them. The volume settings.
Robert Hegyi: Relevance of two out of ten, yeah.
Kim Kelly: Vol volume,
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: yes um
Jeffrey Randolph: They're not used often
Kim Kelly: th
Jeffrey Randolph: but they quite important when they're
Kim Kelly: w
Jeffrey Randolph: used.
Kim Kelly: we need to s identify
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: things that people actually need and and it's a function of frequency and relevance. And um I would say ignoring ig ignoring power for the moment, um the channel and volume
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: and th w w given given that we've been told to ignore teletext.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: Uh channel and volume are the only ones that
Robert Hegyi: Stand
Kim Kelly: uh
Robert Hegyi: out.
Kim Kelly: would appear to be essential. Um. So we if we can design something that that looks interesting, know, or looks different, um incorporates the the logo and and the colours and um we can still have our interchangeable fascias even if it's the yellow and grey, um and uh I dunno, buttons or or buttons as an option.
Robert Hegyi: Uh I just had a thought actually, sorry to interrupt.
Kim Kelly: Do,
Robert Hegyi: Uh
Kim Kelly: please.
Robert Hegyi: you were saying about um it could technical problems of like uh someone on the television saying a channel
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Robert Hegyi: number and it changed we could maybe have like an activation word. 'Cause I've seen
Kim Kelly: You
Robert Hegyi: I've
Kim Kelly: cer
Robert Hegyi: seen this used
Kim Kelly: certainly
Robert Hegyi: on computers
Kim Kelly: could.
Robert Hegyi: before, where you just you address the
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: remote, you address the computer, and then
Kim Kelly: Depe
Robert Hegyi: give it
Kim Kelly: uh
Robert Hegyi: a command.
Kim Kelly: i depends whether um if we want to make this so simple that anybody can walk into the room and lift it up and say
Robert Hegyi: Oh I see. Oh yeah, I see.
Kim Kelly: B_B_C_ one. Um okay, I mean you could print actually print it on the uh
Robert Hegyi: Mm-hmm,
Kim Kelly: device
Robert Hegyi: yeah.
Kim Kelly: itself. Um.
Robert Hegyi: I mean I'm just thinking of the point of view of peop you could still like lose this remote.
Kim Kelly: S th this I th that's always gonna be a problem
Robert Hegyi: Mm.
Kim Kelly: I think. Um and I I I s so I suppose one um could make it so desirable that if people lose it they immediately go out and buy another one. Anyway, sorry, carry on. Do you want to just carry on with
Robert Hegyi: Oh no I I interrupted
Kim Kelly: or no
Robert Hegyi: you, sorry.
Kim Kelly: no, no uh b I was in the middle of
Robert Hegyi: Oh okay.
Kim Kelly: in the middle of your report there.
Robert Hegyi: Um well, I was just kinda wrapping up there. Yeah, I was thinking
Kim Kelly: Mm okay.
Robert Hegyi: um, yeah, maybe such things are relevant. We could make things much more f I think the the eighty percent of people would spend more on uh a remote uh that looks better, combined with uh decrease the or take out the limited functio functions that we don't really use much. alright take out teletext, but as for channel settings and stuff it might it might um turn people somewhe peop some people that want the whole functionality away. But, since if we're marketing a more kind of fashionable approach
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Robert Hegyi: then it'd it would be fashion and fashion over practicality.
Kim Kelly: S s we could we could make it dual function voice recognition and still
Robert Hegyi: Oh, we
Kim Kelly: have
Robert Hegyi: could, yeah.
Kim Kelly: buttons on it
Robert Hegyi: We c
Kim Kelly: um
Robert Hegyi: yeah, we could even
Kim Kelly: 'cause we're
Robert Hegyi: have it as like a yeah the buttons control this and the voice functions control the f things that you would do all the time, so.
Kim Kelly: Certainly could.
Robert Hegyi: So uh
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: Yeah,
Robert Hegyi: yeah, if we could
Kim Kelly: yeah.
Robert Hegyi: uh power on and channel selection and and volume selection, wouldn't have to really
Kim Kelly: The I mean the the advantage of doing away the buttons altogether is it makes the thing cheaper.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah and probably it would look better as well.
Kim Kelly: No, it cou certainly opens up the possibility for making it uh, you know, visually very distinctive.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: Um
Robert Hegyi: yeah.
Kim Kelly: 'cause you know, it does not have to be a oblong box.
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Robert Hegyi: Lined with numbered buttons
Kim Kelly: Mm, yeah.
Robert Hegyi: and
Kim Kelly: Okay, who sorry, have you have you finished
Robert Hegyi: Uh yeah,
Kim Kelly: there Andy?
Robert Hegyi: yeah,
Kim Kelly: Yep,
Robert Hegyi: that's
Kim Kelly: yep.
Robert Hegyi: everything.
Kim Kelly: Um given that we've already had a extensive discussion uh.
Richard Hunt: Okay well, I can
Jeffrey Randolph: Hmm.
Richard Hunt: do mine.
Robert Hegyi: Do you want the cable?
Richard Hunt: Yeah, let's see if I can make this work. Um.
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh, you have to hit like function and F_ something.
Richard Hunt: Oh.
Robert Hegyi: F_ eight.
Jeffrey Randolph: F_ eight.
Richard Hunt: Is it doing
Jeffrey Randolph: Dunno.
Robert Hegyi: Uh, give it about twenty seconds, or so.
Richard Hunt: Okay.
Kim Kelly: Ah,
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh yeah,
Richard Hunt: Oh
Kim Kelly: there
Richard Hunt: okay.
Kim Kelly: we
Jeffrey Randolph: it's going.
Kim Kelly: go.
Richard Hunt: Okay, so this is just about the technical functions.
Kim Kelly: Alright.
Richard Hunt: So the method, I looked online for examples of other similar products and then just kind of was trying to brainstorm some possible design ideas and um identify what the necessary things are, what people are what you really wanna have a remote control do. Um and then there are two different kinds that I found. There's a user centred one and an engineering centred one which I will have pictures of and
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Richard Hunt: then we kinda have to decide which one this should be. So these are the two different ones. This one um this is the user centred, it has uh quite a few mm uh um fewer buttons and then this is the engineering centred, which has a lot more buttons,
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Richard Hunt: and probably this is one that people complain about, about having too many buttons that you don't use. So basically, what a remote control is is you it's to send messages to the television set, you know, turn on, off, switch the channels and the volume and things such as that. And so for this product it's gonna be television only, and then it has to have the uh logos for the company and the colours. And so, for my personal preferences, I think this one is easier to use and has quite a you know, fewer buttons. Um we want something that sends messages easily to the television and I was kind of wondering about this example that they have. It looks kind of narrow at the top, and I was thinking maybe if it were wider
Kim Kelly: Mm,
Richard Hunt: at the top,
Kim Kelly: yeah.
Richard Hunt: then that would be easier. Um and so we have to decide what's gonna make our product different. E the unique style, maybe have it light up so it's visible in the dark, um the changeable face-plates, and the lighting up and visible I was when we were talking about havi losing it, maybe to have a button on the television that you press and it maybe if it makes a noise or lights up or something like that, so it's easier to find if someone has hidden under the couch or something like that. So that's my presentation. Yeah.
Kim Kelly: Okay, can I um I'm actually gonna use the um it's gonna cause great technical problems over here. I'm actually gonna use the
Richard Hunt: F they probably clip
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh yeah, they might be
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Jeffrey Randolph: movable.
Richard Hunt: to
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh
Richard Hunt: you.
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah, they're all they're not connected to anything on the table, you just leave 'em on and walk around with 'em.
Kim Kelly: Yes, rather than the uh the the traditional in fact, um I won't even go that far. Um something like this shape, you know, sort of something that you can that's sort of a more vertical shape, um that you you sort of hold in your hand, um, well I'm trying to think uh uh uh l uh l such as I mean um something you hold up like that, possibly with a couple of buttons like that, but with the
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: the entire top with the, you know, the uh the infrared or whatever source. Uh so that you know, it's flying
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: off in all directions, so that uh um uh again the n need to look at the the the technicalities of um actually achieving that in terms of whether the, you know, the power requirements of the uh such a source, um you know, compromise the our our need for uh you know, it it being um mm permanently uh you know, available. Uh whether whether different technology um I mean th all all these remotes are presumably infrared, and like they have been for a long time. Uh we we possibly need to be looking at at at something different, um you know, short range, not like the old uh radio remote controls where you'd change next door's telly when you change yours. Um but uh uh I think basically i if we're going for i if minimum number of buttons is our priority, then we should, as I say, r know, really bite the bullets and and reduce the buttons to absolute minimum, you know, possibly with backup channel and volume buttons and on off. Um and nothing else. Um so that it can al it could uh almost end up like that, but again, except that um you know the risk of losing it. Um anyway okay um so Kate,
Jeffrey Randolph: Yes,
Kim Kelly: wh what
Jeffrey Randolph: mm.
Kim Kelly: are your uh your
Richard Hunt: Oh.
Kim Kelly: thoughts on this?
Jeffrey Randolph: Which one does this plug into?
Richard Hunt: Hmm I think it's all there.
Jeffrey Randolph: That one.
Richard Hunt: H
Jeffrey Randolph: I can't did you could you see it on you screen when it
Richard Hunt: Oh yeah. That's kind of strange.
Jeffrey Randolph: That's not cool. Oh well. Anyways. Um alright, yeah, so um I'll just do my presentation on the working design uh. Oh there we go. Okay um just at the m yeah the whole sort of method of how the remote control works. Uh the basic function of the remote control is to send messages to another sh system, the the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ player or whatever. Um and it does this uh by well, you need to start off you need an energy source and this energy source will feed into an integrated circuit chip and the circuit chip is the part that actually composes the different messages uh within the remote um which will then be sent to the uh the television, the D_V_D_ to tell that what to do. Um and you need a user interface, which controls the chip and thus the messages and uh the user interface is that's basically just you kn the s sorta design of the actual remote which you hold in your hands and what buttons will be on it. Um Oh shoot. Okay. Uh just general findings. Uh what we need uh technically speaking for the remote control is some sort of energy source, uh some sort of user interface, which I think we've mostly been talking about the user interface and the design of that. Um a circuit chip within that to uh control and send the messages and um a sender and receiver. And um oops. Uh-huh. This is just sort of a little schematic diagram of what we're looking for. Uh this
Robert Hegyi: Hmm.
Jeffrey Randolph: just kinda represents the energy source which feeds into the circuit chip uh which maybe then we could have that feed into a switch which would send signals f to um a subcomponent and on to a light bulb between so it'll light up once we start once you start pressing buttons. Um also send signals to the um infrared bulb, which will be the part that actually what? Sends signals to the the television. And then you've got your happy little T_V_ watcher there. And so my personal preferences I I just think we need sorta big uh energy source that won't die out, uh perhaps some sort of rechargeable battery or a battery dock you could place it in, so it'd constantly be charged, so you wouldn't have to uh be worrying about it running out of batteries and not changing channels for you. Uh a wide range uh sender-receiver, so that you can hit the buttons from basically anywhere in the room, and the channel'll still be changed. Uh also definitely a user-friendly interface um and I think we've all sort of mentioned adding a a locating device on it, so when it does get stuck under the couch cushions, as they inevitably do, you can find them easily. And that's pretty much it.
Kim Kelly: Okay. Uh it seems seems to Robert Hegyi there are a number of fundamental decisions to make
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: before we um I think your point about the the big energy source is uh
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: a very valid one. Um I don't suppose we've got any statistics on the the life expectancy of uh remote controls, particularly sort of independent ones. Um given you know, the number of things you buy these days, which you know, have a a a lithium whatever battery in, that's uh, you know never needs replacing. Um perhaps we should have the the disposable remote control, uh um you know, one some sort of typical usage. You know, the the the battery will last know, five, ten years. By which time I mean when all's said and done, the digital television will be taking over
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: in that time scale.
Robert Hegyi: Mm-hmm.
Kim Kelly: Um uh uh p perhaps we should, know, reduce the uh, you know, the sort of moving parts even more by not even having a battery compartment and uh
Jeffrey Randolph: Just having one that's guaranteed to last five to ten years?
Kim Kelly: Yeah, and
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh,
Kim Kelly: if if anybody
Jeffrey Randolph: cool.
Kim Kelly: manages to run it down, we'll we'll give 'em a new one.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah, fair enough.
Kim Kelly: Um it's, you know, it's what it saves in cost and you know there there's a well, it's actually a marketing gimmick. I mean it's hardly a gimmick, it's uh it's totally practical. Uh so I th think you know the idea of a rechargeable one is um uh unless you're really high tech and it sort of just recharges itself if it's n by, you know, magnetic waves or whatever, if
Robert Hegyi: It could
Kim Kelly: if
Robert Hegyi: have
Kim Kelly: it
Robert Hegyi: like uh know like a cordless phone in your house it s got like a base that
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: sits
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm,
Robert Hegyi: there all
Jeffrey Randolph: mm.
Robert Hegyi: the time.
Kim Kelly: Are are people really gonna use it though?
Robert Hegyi: I
Richard Hunt: Yeah, people
Kim Kelly: Um.
Robert Hegyi: suppose,
Richard Hunt: are pro
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm
Robert Hegyi: yeah.
Richard Hunt: I
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah.
Richard Hunt: would think that people might forget I mean
Kim Kelly: I
Richard Hunt: people
Kim Kelly: I th
Richard Hunt: forget
Kim Kelly: I think
Richard Hunt: to put their cordless phones back on there,
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm-mm.
Richard Hunt: so.
Kim Kelly: Yeah, it's
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: um I mean I know that somei times my my wife goes out in the morning and says oh I should have put the phone on
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: to charge and then then she's had those for so long that if she hasn't worked that out by now. Um.
Jeffrey Randolph: 'Cause I only remember to charge my cell phone uh when battery dies. And that's pretty
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Jeffrey Randolph: much
Kim Kelly: When it yeah, wh
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah.
Kim Kelly: when it's died is a problem.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah, when it turns itself
Kim Kelly: Yeah,
Jeffrey Randolph: off, that's
Kim Kelly: yeah,
Jeffrey Randolph: when I plug it in,
Kim Kelly: yeah,
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah.
Kim Kelly: so uh um what so wh what what do we think about the um the the permanent mm battery?
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah, think that's
Robert Hegyi: Uh. That
Jeffrey Randolph: a good
Richard Hunt: No.
Jeffrey Randolph: idea.
Robert Hegyi: sounds pretty good, yeah.
Kim Kelly: Is the uh you know, we we
Richard Hunt: Um.
Kim Kelly: we are really going for the ultimate in ex uh external simplicity
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: here. Um you know, cut cost within the manufacturing and uh you know, if we have a high tech interior, then then that that sh may well be cost effective.
Richard Hunt: Do they make batteries that last that long?
Kim Kelly: I mean th th certainly. Um I can't think of anything off the s top of my head, but there are certainly things that you buy. I mean calculators for example.
Jeffrey Randolph: They usually have the little light uh source, I dunno
Richard Hunt: Yeah, they
Jeffrey Randolph: what
Richard Hunt: have
Jeffrey Randolph: the
Richard Hunt: that
Jeffrey Randolph: heck
Richard Hunt: little
Jeffrey Randolph: they're called,
Richard Hunt: solar
Jeffrey Randolph: the but yeah, the little cells that
Kim Kelly: Som well some do, I mean th th but
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: there are battery ones that um
Robert Hegyi: Mm-hmm.
Kim Kelly: are
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: you know, sort of permanently sealed.
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: In in fact I'd
Jeffrey Randolph: Most of them, don't they have sort of a combination of the two, like when there is light, they'll work off the light, and if
Kim Kelly: Yeah,
Jeffrey Randolph: there isn't, they'll
Kim Kelly: uh uh
Jeffrey Randolph: kick into this battery, so we can maybe do something like that whereas there is a battery, but if there's enough light, then it's using the light, so that it's not actually draining the battery all the time,
Richard Hunt: Mm.
Jeffrey Randolph: but you will have the battery there for
Kim Kelly: Yeah,
Jeffrey Randolph: when
Kim Kelly: I
Jeffrey Randolph: you need
Kim Kelly: I mean
Jeffrey Randolph: it.
Kim Kelly: th th this needs going t into the technology
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: a bit. I mean the the actual time that a remote control is actually operating
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: I would think is i is is probably, you know, no more than minutes in its entire life.
Jeffrey Randolph: Oh,
Kim Kelly: Um.
Richard Hunt: Yeah, some people are
Kim Kelly: If, but I say
Jeffrey Randolph: clicking,
Kim Kelly: if if people are getting
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah.
Kim Kelly: R_S_I_ from it then
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah,
Kim Kelly: uh then
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Jeffrey Randolph: then they're
Kim Kelly: uh
Jeffrey Randolph: clicking
Kim Kelly: then
Jeffrey Randolph: a lot,
Kim Kelly: then
Jeffrey Randolph: yeah.
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: perhaps we're looking
Robert Hegyi: W
Kim Kelly: at the wrong market
Robert Hegyi: like
Kim Kelly: n
Robert Hegyi: like this um this uh market research thing says number of times per hour that it's used, channel selection a hundred and sixty eight times per
Kim Kelly: Right.
Robert Hegyi: hour.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: Per hour? Wow.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: That's a lot.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: Oh, I must admit I hadn't um I'd I'd missed that. That does sound excessive.
Robert Hegyi: But then again, if you think it of the amount of, you know amount of use it's like
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: That's it's less
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: than a second,
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: um.
Kim Kelly: Well that's right, and and I I don't I don't even know whether the I don't even know whether the s the signal lasts as long as
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: you actually keep the button pressed, or whether it's just a
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: sorta tenth of a second, no matter how long you press it for, I don't know I don't actually know.
Richard Hunt: Though
Kim Kelly: Um.
Richard Hunt: I think with digital T_V_, like I know on my cable box, you're not supposed to do that because the channel can't keep up with it if
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: you just
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Richard Hunt: press it like that, so you're supposed to use the menu and go through the
Kim Kelly: Mm-hmm.
Robert Hegyi: Mm-hmm.
Richard Hunt: different channels that way instead of
Kim Kelly: Mm. Right, so I've got a message to say five minutes, I dunno how long ago that appeared. Um
Richard Hunt: Uh-oh.
Kim Kelly: 'cause we're we're getting um right, so I'd I need to sum up very quickly here um. We're looking at extreme simplicity. We're looking at a radically different shape. Possibly no buttons at all um, but if you can incorporate um channel change and volume buttons um in into the design, then then that's fine. Um in the I mean the the role of the of the um the user interface des designer becomes b you know more important here, because, you know, shape is no longer an a uh um a serious constraint. But we clearly only need th the main buttons, although, uh if clearly only need the main functions. Um I don't see why we shouldn't go for voice recognition um and the the only buttons that I think we need are channel control, volume control and on off. Um it needs to incorporate the corporate logo, uh the the grey and yellow colour scheme and there's no reason why we can't introduce um interchangeable uh covers. Um uh d so does that accurately summarise what we've discussed?
Robert Hegyi: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Jeffrey Randolph: Yep. Hmm.
Kim Kelly: Right.
Richard Hunt: Um
Kim Kelly: So uh
Richard Hunt: Oh I just have one question.
Kim Kelly: Yeah.
Richard Hunt: So are we doing just the television or are we doing
Kim Kelly: We are doing just the television.
Richard Hunt: so not D_V_D_
Kim Kelly: No.
Richard Hunt: players, we okay, okay.
Kim Kelly: I think that's quite clear from the the information
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: that we've been given, no?
Richard Hunt: Okay.
Robert Hegyi: Yeah, like in the email of television only. In fact they're in the constraints email that I got.
Kim Kelly: Right.
Robert Hegyi: Didn't you mention the teletext, just television
Kim Kelly: Oh yeah
Robert Hegyi: only?
Kim Kelly: well
Jeffrey Randolph: Mm.
Kim Kelly: th that's
Richard Hunt: Yeah.
Kim Kelly: one I s that's one I sent you, which which was my interpretation
Robert Hegyi: Oh okay.
Kim Kelly: of uh
Jeffrey Randolph: Yeah.
Robert Hegyi: Oh yeah.
Kim Kelly: of the
Richard Hunt: Oh
Kim Kelly: uh
Richard Hunt: okay.
Kim Kelly: what came down
Jeffrey Randolph: Okay.
Kim Kelly: from from head office. Um That's that that that that's their uh their view. Okay, so uh we can all give some thought to that uh for for the next meeting, thank you
Richard Hunt: Okay.
Kim Kelly: very much indeed.
Jeffrey Randolph: Cool. | Kim Kelly opens the meeting by going through notes from the last meeting, recapping the topics covered. He tells them some new project requirements given by management. Robert Hegyi presents, talking about user functionality requirements taken from research of 100 people. They discuss the possibility of making a remote that hides less frequently used buttons, one that uses voices recognition to eliminate buttons altogether, or one that combines the two functions. The interface specialist presents, showing examples of two different products- one that is user-centered and another that is engineering-centered and giving personal preference to the simpler one because it is easier to use and has fewer buttons. Next Jeffrey Randolph presents, explaining how a remote control works and giving personal preference to a remote which has a large energy source such as a rechargable battery or battery dock. The group discusses using a battery that will last 5-10 years or a solar combined with a battery. They briefly review their discussions and close the meeting. | 3 | amisum | test |
Erick Hinzman: Is this okay?
Stacy Mccleskey: Uh yeah. Fine now.
Stacy Mccleskey: Oh, it's not liking us, it went that-a-way. Computer adjusting. Oh. Uh.
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay. So. Right.
Stacy Mccleskey: You ready back there? Uh okay. Welcome everyone. Um this is the kick-off meeting for the day. Um we're the new group uh to create a new remote control for Real Reaction. As you can see our agenda is to open up the meeting, um become acquainted with each other, um have a little training on tools, uh create a plan, discuss things and and we only have twenty minut twenty five minutes total. Okay. The new remote control is to be original, trendy and user-friendly. That, Steph, is your part, is the user-friendliness. The originality um is gonna take all of us. Um the trendiness we'll probably go look at for some marketing research information from you, Sarah. Um and we'll get on with it. Okay, so we'll have a functional design individual work um with meeting and then conceptual design t and then detailed design. Okay? Right. Everybody's supposed to try out the whiteboard. Kate, why don't you try it first, if you can either
Carl Sokoloski: Uh yeah, if
Stacy Mccleskey: bring
Carl Sokoloski: I
Stacy Mccleskey: your things with
Carl Sokoloski: pick with
Stacy Mccleskey: you, I
Carl Sokoloski: all
Stacy Mccleskey: guess
Carl Sokoloski: these bits and pieces, hang on.
Stacy Mccleskey: And while you're doing that we'll try and figure out how to hook these things on as well, 'cause we're all gonna have to be able to walk around.
Carl Sokoloski: Uh right, so you want an animal and the characteristics of that animal. Do you have to be able to recognise what animal it is?
Stacy Mccleskey: Uh I do not think so, I think it's just to try out the whiteboard.
Carl Sokoloski: Um
Harold Ceballos: Are we all gonna draw a cat?
Erick Hinzman: I know.
Carl Sokoloski: Only animal I could thin I could draw.
Stacy Mccleskey: Ah.
Carl Sokoloski: Its a sort of bunny rabbit cat. You can tell it's not a bunny rabbit by the ears.
Stacy Mccleskey: Uh-huh.
Carl Sokoloski: Um I suppose it should have a mouth as well, sort of
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Carl Sokoloski: Right, yeah.
Stacy Mccleskey: Great. And the characteristics?
Carl Sokoloski: Um the favourite characteristics of the cat um the whiskers I think, um because they're the easiest to draw.
Stacy Mccleskey: Uh-huh.
Carl Sokoloski: In fact, I'll give it some more Oh,
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Carl Sokoloski: and the tail
Stacy Mccleskey: Fantastic. Since you're handy as well, why don't you do yours next, Steph.
Stacy Mccleskey: I think it's to get us used to using the pen.
Carl Sokoloski: Yes. Um sure it's not to test our artistic
Stacy Mccleskey: Uh no.
Carl Sokoloski: It's a mouse.
Stacy Mccleskey: A mouse-y?
Harold Ceballos: That's not a mouse-y, no.
Carl Sokoloski: No it's not a mouse. It's a wombat.
Stacy Mccleskey: Oh.
Harold Ceballos: It's a ratty.
Stacy Mccleskey: Argh.
Carl Sokoloski: A what?
Harold Ceballos: A
Stacy Mccleskey: Rat.
Harold Ceballos: ratty.
Stacy Mccleskey: Not a mouse,
Carl Sokoloski: A
Stacy Mccleskey: a
Carl Sokoloski: webbed
Stacy Mccleskey: rat.
Carl Sokoloski: foot. Webbed f
Harold Ceballos: It's clothes. That's
Carl Sokoloski: Oh
Harold Ceballos: it's clothes.
Carl Sokoloski: right.
Harold Ceballos: It's a ratty with a with a with a very long tail.
Stacy Mccleskey: And your
Harold Ceballos: I love
Stacy Mccleskey: favourite
Harold Ceballos: whiskers.
Stacy Mccleskey: characteristics of that animal.
Harold Ceballos: Uh they're intelligent and they're cheeky and uh fantastic pets and very
Stacy Mccleskey: Oh.
Harold Ceballos: friendly.
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Harold Ceballos: And
Stacy Mccleskey: Kate?
Harold Ceballos: they sit on your shoulder and whisper the answers to your homework in your ear when you're doing your homework.
Erick Hinzman: Thanks.
Stacy Mccleskey: Oh, a fish.
Harold Ceballos: A shark?
Carl Sokoloski: Gosh, why didn't I think of fish? That's even easier to draw than cat.
Erick Hinzman: Mm this is very representational fish.
Stacy Mccleskey: Oh, okay. Fine.
Erick Hinzman: Um I like
Stacy Mccleskey: Favourite
Erick Hinzman: them
Stacy Mccleskey: characteristics?
Erick Hinzman: because they're sleek and they have a lot of freedom but they also do n uh swim in groups, so.
Stacy Mccleskey: 'Kay. So
Erick Hinzman: Do
Stacy Mccleskey: they
Erick Hinzman: you
Stacy Mccleskey: have
Erick Hinzman: have a favourite
Stacy Mccleskey: team
Erick Hinzman: one?
Stacy Mccleskey: elements. I'm afraid I'm with Steph. And I think your pen's running out of whatever. But I'm afraid I take the coward's way out, and the cat's looking the other way. He's hiding. Um cats are sometimes very independent. My parents had cats. Uh and they can mm decide for themselves what is best. Okay. Now um we have to get down to the nitty-gritty of how to make this and this remote control has to be sold um we're to sell it for twenty five Euros, with a profit aim ultimately of fifty million Euros. That tells you something about how many um we have to sell on an international scale. Um would be an awful lot of these, would be like what, a hundred million of them um to make twenty five Euros on each one and to make a total profit of fifty million. Um the production is to only cost twelve and a half Euros per item. Now if they cost twelve and a half, you're selling it for twenty five, you're making twelve and a half Euros each. Um and we're to make a profit of fifty million, that's t uh can you do the maths and how many are we selling?
Erick Hinzman: Uh yeah. I was just wondering if that's the um If fifty percent is normal
Stacy Mccleskey: Mark-up?
Erick Hinzman: B yeah. Um I would think would be more like sixty percent. But um
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Erick Hinzman: let Erick Hinzman I have two thoughts. fifty percent. And and your question is how many do we have to sell?
Stacy Mccleskey: Yes, 'cause our market um is international and your problem is has to do with marketing of you know, you gotta know how many we're going
Erick Hinzman: At twenty
Stacy Mccleskey: to be selling
Erick Hinzman: five.
Stacy Mccleskey: to know how big a market you have to target
Erick Hinzman: Mm-hmm.
Stacy Mccleskey: and who is that.
Erick Hinzman: Yeah, that's um
Stacy Mccleskey: To give you a pretty good idea of where you're looking.
Erick Hinzman: So that's four million of them?
Stacy Mccleskey: Something like that? Okay.
Erick Hinzman: Yeah.
Stacy Mccleskey: That's fifty million Euros. In order
Erick Hinzman: And if
Stacy Mccleskey: to make
Erick Hinzman: we make
Stacy Mccleskey: fifty million Euros, and you're only getting twelve and a half each
Erick Hinzman: Mm-hmm.
Stacy Mccleskey: That's a lot of selling.
Erick Hinzman: Yeah.
Stacy Mccleskey: Two four
Erick Hinzman: Four million.
Stacy Mccleskey: To be fifty, be four million. You'd have to sell four million.
Erick Hinzman: Hmm.
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay? Right. Experience with a remote control. Any of you use of remote control for a television or D_V_D_ or something?
Carl Sokoloski: That
Stacy Mccleskey: You're
Erick Hinzman: Yeah.
Stacy Mccleskey: both
Carl Sokoloski: that that's
Stacy Mccleskey: nodding,
Carl Sokoloski: the sorta
Stacy Mccleskey: all
Carl Sokoloski: product
Stacy Mccleskey: three.
Carl Sokoloski: we're talking about, one that will work for a in a home environment, for a
Stacy Mccleskey: Well
Carl Sokoloski: T_V_s and
Stacy Mccleskey: I've seen some remote controls that are for more than one device at a time, but I also have heard about them not working well or not well co-ordinated and you wind up working with this one for thi this three and then this
Harold Ceballos: It
Stacy Mccleskey: one
Harold Ceballos: is
Stacy Mccleskey: over here
Harold Ceballos: true
Stacy Mccleskey: for another.
Harold Ceballos: you know, you're sitting on your sofa and you wanna change something, there's five different remotes, and one for the D_V_D_ and one for the video and one
Erick Hinzman: Mm-hmm.
Harold Ceballos: for cable and one for
Erick Hinzman: Y yeah.
Harold Ceballos: whatever
Stacy Mccleskey: And they don't
Harold Ceballos: else.
Stacy Mccleskey: always
Harold Ceballos: But I presume
Stacy Mccleskey: talk to
Harold Ceballos: this
Stacy Mccleskey: each
Harold Ceballos: is
Stacy Mccleskey: other.
Harold Ceballos: t I presume this is just for television.
Stacy Mccleskey: Don't know. Okay. Are there any um ideas for the remote? What would it be for and what group would be be for? We have to think about that one.
Erick Hinzman: We could make a Hello Kitty themed remote.
Harold Ceballos: I think one in b bright colours would be good.
Erick Hinzman: Yeah. We
Carl Sokoloski: I
Erick Hinzman: could
Carl Sokoloski: think
Erick Hinzman: totally
Carl Sokoloski: one that works
Erick Hinzman: go for
Carl Sokoloski: would
Erick Hinzman: the
Carl Sokoloski: be good.
Erick Hinzman: Japan-a-mation. Well I mean there's also the cachet that um uh the Japanese make great products. Electrical their industrial design is very good.
Harold Ceballos: I think one that doesn't have lots of superfluous functions. Like I've got one at home that has well, apart from the obvious, channels, channel up, channel down, volume,
Erick Hinzman: Yeah.
Harold Ceballos: you know, subtitles, mute, there's a lotta buttons that I've got no idea what they do, like.
Erick Hinzman: Well, that's a really good point, because I think
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Erick Hinzman: one of the things that being somewhat computer literate, we tend to um go to menus and then make choices, you know, so if it's like an uh volume button, you know, you can go in and say mute or or volume. We don't need to have like the l the numbers if we also have uh
Harold Ceballos: Mm.
Erick Hinzman: uh channel up channel down.
Stacy Mccleskey: Mm.
Erick Hinzman: Mm.
Stacy Mccleskey: Okay.
Erick Hinzman: We can make it smart like an iPod, you know, make everything menus.
Harold Ceballos: Ooh, closing the meeting.
Stacy Mccleskey: Yeah. Um
Harold Ceballos: That was quick.
Stacy Mccleskey: I know this sounds like it was very quick, but the I think that's the industrial design
Carl Sokoloski: Mm.
Stacy Mccleskey: is the first one, that's Kate,
Carl Sokoloski: Mm-hmm.
Stacy Mccleskey: for the working design. And user, that's you S Steph, for the technical functions design, and for marketing the user requirements specification. I think there's going to be a lot of we have to help each other and work through this as a group, and I think we all, you know, we like our kitty-cat and our rat and our fish, but I think we all have to like each other um to get this done. says, we're gonna get individual instructions, but uh I don't think they allowed a lot of extra time, so I think a little bit of less of this and more at do will set us in good stead. Do you all agree?
Harold Ceballos: Mm-hmm.
Carl Sokoloski: Mm-hmm.
Stacy Mccleskey: Alright. Um then I don't see any reason to prolong it and f we should finish this meeting at ni right now and go into other things. Alright, so this is the end of the first meeting.
Erick Hinzman: Okay.
Carl Sokoloski: 'Kay.
Stacy Mccleskey: Thank you all. | Stacy Mccleskey opened the meeting by stating the agenda and then introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the particular animal. Stacy Mccleskey briefed the team on the production and selling costs of the remote they are to create. Stacy Mccleskey also briefed the team on the profit aim and discussed how many remotes must be sold in order to reach the profit aim of 50 million Euro. The team then discussed their experiences using remote controls and what features in terms of functionality and appearance to consider in making the remote. | 3 | amisum | test |
Chad Dunfee: Uh it fell off. One, two, three, four, yeah, we're ready. Okay. Welcome to this second meeting. Um it's now quarter after twelve and we're given forty minutes um for this meeting. This is a meeting on functional design. Um and I wanna welcome you all and thank you all for doing some research in between. Um I did took the minutes from the first meeting and I'll show them to you in a moment. Um I know each of you have a presentation and in thinking about the forty minutes, I thought it would take only like three minutes for the previous minutes, um each of you having about seven minutes or maybe a little more, maybe a little less for your pre presentations and a little discussion, because there's I happen to have been told there were some new project requirements and we have to make some uh decision on what functions it will have. Okay? Is this
Herbert Rosa: Yes.
Chad Dunfee: ap
Samuel Almaraz: Oops.
Chad Dunfee: everybody agree with this?
Fred Mcclure: Yes.
Chad Dunfee: Okay. Um and after the meeting there'll be things to be done and as you can see it says we get to get lunch, um and then some more individual work and then putting minutes away and individual actions. Um but uh now for the minutes of the first meeting. And go to that one. Um as you can see it was this earlier today. Um Kate, Steph, Sarah and myself in our four capacities were present. I opened the meeting, the product was developed uh and reviewed, and we talked about the financial end of it. Um and it had some implications, um the four million sales target and new ideas of not too many buttons, bright colours and some of the influence of the Japanese. And we closed early so you could then proceed with your research and getting your reports together for tod this meeting Anybody have any questions on those minutes? Are they complete, did they discuss everything that we covered last time? 'Kay.
Samuel Almaraz: Uh I think
Chad Dunfee: Did I miss
Samuel Almaraz: so,
Chad Dunfee: something?
Samuel Almaraz: we we we about the the individual roles that we each had as well.
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah. I'm afraid I incorporated that when I said who was present, but
Samuel Almaraz: Okay.
Chad Dunfee: yes, we did, and we did a little bit of uh team building of uh of making the pictures, but I didn't think those were appropriate to the minutes necessarily. So um as a group I think we've are they're accepting the minutes.
Fred Mcclure: Okay,
Chad Dunfee: And
Fred Mcclure: I
Chad Dunfee: uh
Fred Mcclure: the.
Chad Dunfee: okay.
Fred Mcclure: Is that what we're supposed to say?
Chad Dunfee: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah, I do.
Chad Dunfee: Good. Um, then we'll move to the three presentations. Okay?
Fred Mcclure: Okay.
Chad Dunfee: Okay. Mm we need to move this. Who wants to go f first? That's as far as it goes.
Herbert Rosa: Uh not really to touch those. Oh it doesn't have any on, does it? That's fine.
Fred Mcclure: Excellent, thank
Samuel Almaraz: Oy,
Fred Mcclure: you.
Samuel Almaraz: big loop under the table.
Chad Dunfee: She said we didn't need to screw it in.
Fred Mcclure: Okay. Okay, that looks good.
Chad Dunfee: It's doing its thing. There we are.
Fred Mcclure: Alright. Thank you very much. Um. One of the the biggest issues I found about um from last meeting was the fact that we need to sell four million of these um remote controls and I think that this is an opportunity really take Real Reaction in the direction of of similar of handheld tools that have been by of us and to kind of bring the control into the si realm as an accessible um useful electronic device, as opposed to something that is lost in the couch and what have you. So um my main goal here is to re-envision the remote control in in this context and to think about menu functionality and current technology and the fact that it could be interactive with other tools. Um some of the research uh in the market has shown that people really are not happy with remote controls as they are now, and um that means we do need to make some decisions about what what keys or or buttons on the on the remote control to perhaps keep and and what ones to discard. And if we devote some energy into this, I think the um recent productions of Real Reaction, the I go everywhere power and the high definition D_V_D_ players although it makes immediate sense to have our remote control interact with these, I think we can also use this as a platform to make it interact with other tools. And um in fact I think the high definition D_V_D_ players and all of this will come along in the uh will only benefit from the positive feedback from our well designed tool. So again, most uh users really dislike the current look and feel of remote controls. Um fifty percent I think of all these uh numbers the most important is fifty percent of user say they only use ten percent of the buttons. And eighty percent of users, and if we think about this there are a lot of uh television, D_V_D_, stereo remote control users out there, eighty percent would spend more money on a remote control that looks fancy.
Samuel Almaraz: Could can I ask where these figures come from, is this market
Fred Mcclure: Um
Samuel Almaraz: research
Fred Mcclure: it
Samuel Almaraz: we've
Fred Mcclure: was market research and there were a hundred people in the room, so eighty out of a hundred said they would spend more money.
Chad Dunfee: Now
Samuel Almaraz: Mm-hmm.
Chad Dunfee: in between, as Chad Dunfee, they sent Fred Mcclure an email from the powers that be
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Chad Dunfee: um that teletext is outdated um and the internet is coming in as important, but that they want this remote control to only be for T_V_ um with incorporating the corporate image, colour and slogan.
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm. Well I think we can I I think we can really focus on this remote and and again bring the Real Reaction um brand in in and and get some positive marketing for our other tools, even if we directly don't um advertise for the I go everywhere line.
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: So an interesting um element was the would you pay more for speech recognition question. So these market research uh
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Fred Mcclure: uh questionnaires looked into your your uh concern about technology and s specifically wanted to find out information about speech recognition.
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: Now the early adopters, those of us who grew up with technology and uh luck lucky for us have the uh cash to to pay for it, the young age group without the mortgages and responsibilities, ninety one percent of them would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Very interesting, I I leave this up to the group to decide if we wanna use this uh if and you know, the
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: the designers, but ninety one percent, fifteen
Chad Dunfee: Is that a
Fred Mcclure: to
Chad Dunfee: large
Fred Mcclure: twenty
Chad Dunfee: enough
Fred Mcclure: five
Chad Dunfee: target market to target it?
Fred Mcclure: Well, I I I think especially in terms of growth, I think this would be a very smart group to target. I mean s three quarters of the next age group, twenty five to thirty five are interested, and uh with the technologies improving, if we can get these uh
Chad Dunfee: In real numbers, does
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Chad Dunfee: the ninety one percent and the seventy six percent translate to ex
Fred Mcclure: To
Chad Dunfee: in excess of the four million?
Fred Mcclure: Um yes.
Chad Dunfee: Or eight million.
Fred Mcclure: Yes. But would you pay more and does it work and is it approachable and and did I know that it was
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Fred Mcclure: it was an that's a that's a very good question.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: I
Samuel Almaraz: Um
Fred Mcclure: don't know if speech recognition should be um should be included, but
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: I think it's an interesting I think that maybe shows more about uh being open to technology.
Herbert Rosa: Uh it definitely
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: needs uh
Fred Mcclure: Shall
Herbert Rosa: a
Fred Mcclure: I go
Herbert Rosa: lot
Fred Mcclure: back?
Herbert Rosa: more research on like how much more it would be and
Fred Mcclure: Yeah, yeah.
Herbert Rosa: any, you know, existing examples, and what reactions to them have been,
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: and
Samuel Almaraz: How d I'm
Herbert Rosa: that sort
Samuel Almaraz: wondering
Herbert Rosa: of thing.
Samuel Almaraz: how how ou how our target price compares with the the typical price of these things. I expect an Industrial Designer should know that, but if we're aiming to to build this thing for twelve Euros fifty that a lot or a little
Fred Mcclure: Exactly. I mean I I I uh did not receive any information on that, but I think the competition, sussing out what other people are doing and what's in the pipeline is very very important, because um there is a question about do you want an L_C_D_ screen and and that wasn't responded to, but uh some of the larger remotes do have screens where you can navigate, you know, so it turns into something uh perhaps you all have seen uh the Osbournes where Ozzy Osbourne is is attempting to manage his super entertainment system with something that looks like a uh a small tray. You know, it's I a and I
Samuel Almaraz: Sh
Fred Mcclure: think,
Samuel Almaraz: surely
Fred Mcclure: you know
Samuel Almaraz: he's in the wrong age group. He must be w one of a s small population.
Fred Mcclure: No, no, you
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: Kate, you're exactly right there. But I think the key is to get the early adopters, people who are familiar with technology and and uh they'll be
Chad Dunfee: But we're not looking at whether they're early adopters
Fred Mcclure: Uh,
Chad Dunfee: on that
Fred Mcclure: mm.
Chad Dunfee: screen, that's looking
Fred Mcclure: Exactly.
Chad Dunfee: at age groups.
Fred Mcclure: I yes,
Chad Dunfee: Leap. Hmm.
Fred Mcclure: you know, um
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: so
Chad Dunfee: Okay, you had the other power channel.
Fred Mcclure: I think the most important thing is an attractive streamlined remote control and to be extraordinarily reductionist, power, channel, volume and everything else is is uh up to the designers. And this is this is also supported by the market research.
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: Thank you. That's my contribution.
Chad Dunfee: Alright. And we'll turn to the next presentation.
Chad Dunfee: I think she said we don't need to screw it in, just stick it in. And then press, what? F F_N_ and F_ eight. Next to the control button on the bottom, and then F_ eight at the top.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah, press
Chad Dunfee: And
Herbert Rosa: them.
Chad Dunfee: then w be patient.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah, here we go.
Chad Dunfee: Tada.
Samuel Almaraz: And if you want it to go into slide show mode, it's that little button there.
Herbert Rosa: Can I not just uh do each one in order?
Samuel Almaraz: I you can if you like, it it that that just sets it up to do a p a p
Chad Dunfee: There
Herbert Rosa: That?
Chad Dunfee: we are.
Samuel Almaraz: no that one, that one there.
Chad Dunfee: Yay.
Herbert Rosa: That?
Samuel Almaraz: Left, left a bit, left a bit,
Herbert Rosa: That?
Samuel Almaraz: that one, yep. click when you wanna go on.
Herbert Rosa: Right, technical design. Uh well I think first off, basically I do agree with what Sarah has defined as as uh your personal preferences,yeah. I think we need uh a more streamlined volume with no extraneous functions. So my method was to look at the existing remotes and what functions they have. And what we all need to discuss is whether we want these functions uh pretty much the same as what existing remotes have. If we can build on this with the speech recognition, that's not something I'd thought about at all, but it's also something we can discuss.
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Herbert Rosa: Um and and I presume we can miss out the functions really to to a video or D_V_D_ remote control, if this is only gonna be a, you
Chad Dunfee: T_V_
Herbert Rosa: know, satellite,
Chad Dunfee: only.
Herbert Rosa: cable, T_V_ remote control. So these are two models of existing remote controls. Uh the one on the left
Chad Dunfee: Ugh.
Herbert Rosa: seems to be a fairly uh standard universal remote control. It has fast-forward, stop, play, all relating to movies. It also has seems to have channel up and channel down, which is which is more what you'd expect from a, you know, like a Sky or cable remote control
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Herbert Rosa: where you've got hundreds of channels instead of a merely terrestrial one. Uh but I think we should be looking more along the lines of the one on the right, which has it also has play, stop and pause and everything, I don't think we need them at all. I think we just need channel selection, volume up, volume down and I think an an enter function where you can access it's not like teletext, but along the same lines, access things on the screen. Uh not related to the internet one that you mentioned, because that'd be far outside our budget and what we want this to do.
Chad Dunfee: Mm. And
Herbert Rosa: So
Chad Dunfee: exceed
Herbert Rosa: it
Chad Dunfee: the requirements they're expecting
Herbert Rosa: really exceed
Chad Dunfee: of
Herbert Rosa: the
Chad Dunfee: us.
Herbert Rosa: requirements, 'cause the requirements really are just want to be able to change channels and functions, which is more a text on the screen thing than uh
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Herbert Rosa: than actual buttons o I was thinking something some smooth, sleek, little remote control with
Chad Dunfee: Alright.
Herbert Rosa: big user-friendly buttons and uh a menu that you can access. Uh but then I do think we need to discuss the speech um recognition possibility.
Chad Dunfee: Okay. Any uh thing else you wanna
Herbert Rosa: No.
Chad Dunfee: add? Okay.
Herbert Rosa: But we could go back to the pictures of the uh, what're they called? The pictures of the remote controls and possibly discuss what we think about them,
Fred Mcclure: Or if
Herbert Rosa: but maybe should hear what Kate has to say
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: first.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah. Let's hear what Kate has to say.
Herbert Rosa: Okay
Fred Mcclure: Maybe
Herbert Rosa: then.
Fred Mcclure: afterwards we could do a uh whiteboard with that your the one on the right as a as a basis.
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Fred Mcclure: Whiteboard session.
Chad Dunfee: I think the white that one on the right is, as well as less cluttered,
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: Definitely less cluttered and I mean but still it's Sorry
Chad Dunfee: It's
Herbert Rosa: I
Chad Dunfee: there
Herbert Rosa: was just
Chad Dunfee: but
Herbert Rosa: I'll
Chad Dunfee: it's
Herbert Rosa: just uh resume something else I was gonna say. The the style of these is terrible.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: I I I really think we need to uh not only possibly even materials, like the type of plastic used, but everything including size and shape of buttons, positioning of buttons, the actual shape of the hand-held device, colours,
Fred Mcclure: The ergonomics,
Herbert Rosa: just
Fred Mcclure: the way it fits
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Herbert Rosa: every
Fred Mcclure: in your
Herbert Rosa: e yeah, everything to do with this has to be
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: revolutionised. But So that's that for now.
Samuel Almaraz: Cheers.
Samuel Almaraz: Mm, I haven't actually got a display on
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Samuel Almaraz: my screen. Still, I'll do without that. Okay um, now I wanna bring us down to earth again I'm afraid and talk about the actual practicalities of how the thing needs to work. Um oh and this is the methodology I used in preparing for this meeting. Um basically I've been doing a little bit of web-based research, and if I had a design team, I would've been discussing my ideas with 'em. But the the net result is that I've come up with a first cut for the working design that I'd like to discuss with you. So, let's go back to what the basic function of a remote control is. It's for sending a message, um typically um via infrared. And the the basic components we've got to build in for our twelve Euros fifty are um an energy source, the user interface and which will um in incorporate um an integrated circuit that actually composes the message um based on what the which buttons the user presses, we turn that into a message, um and then we need a sending mechanism to send it to the receiver. Now I would have hoped I think that's my only slide actually, yeah. I would have have hoped to um do you a pretty PowerPoint slide of um my first cut design, but unfortunately the technology defeated Fred Mcclure, so if you'll bear with Fred Mcclure I'll do it on the whiteboard. So we want an energy source which is there. And we've got to think about what that might be. Uh
Chad Dunfee: Hmm-mm.
Samuel Almaraz: we obviously don't want wires on this thing. Uh typically it would be a battery, but I'm open to suggestions. Um and then we have the the user interface. Oops. And the main components in there are the
Samuel Almaraz: the th the chip that actually has the intelligence of the machine that translates button presses into a message, which it then transfers to some sending mechanism, which encodes it
Samuel Almaraz: and sends the message to the receiver. So those are the basic things that we've got to get in for our twelve Euros fifty. Thank you.
Chad Dunfee: Hmm. Okay. Right. But those things as long as we can get those components, the block, that that rectangle for the user interface, is where the user comes in of what what does it look like? What do the buttons look like? Uh what does it feel like? That's where the user interface is really coming into its own.
Samuel Almaraz: Mm-hmm.
Chad Dunfee: The technical end is what's actually gonna be in there, but also it has to be easy enough to change or repair if something goes wrong. For example the battery energy source or um what if the chip, for whatever reason, breaks down after a certain amount of time, do you just replace it? Um is there any um because it may be in the same area with several other user interfaces, like for D_V_D_s, movies, whatever.
Chad Dunfee: frequency or something?
Samuel Almaraz: Well I may be wrong here, but I'd been thinking of this device as being a a cheap mass-produced device. We're trying to sell four million of 'em,
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Samuel Almaraz: um that's that's, you know, that's almost one in every tenth household or whatever it is. Um and I hadn't thought of it as being a reparable thing, you just if it goes
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Samuel Almaraz: wrong you chuck it out, and that's why I'm a bit concerned. I like the idea of speech recognition, that's a great idea, but I'm not convinced we can put it into this box for the price that we need gonna need to hit.
Fred Mcclure: Do
Herbert Rosa: Whoop.
Fred Mcclure: we have
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: um ki some idea of how much it would cost to create a device that has these basic elements? Because then
Herbert Rosa: Isn't that your job?
Fred Mcclure: No,
Chad Dunfee: Oh.
Fred Mcclure: the chip composer
Herbert Rosa: Oh right.
Fred Mcclure: marketing. Oh no, the chip composer sender.
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Samuel Almaraz: Um,
Fred Mcclure: I I don't believe I know, um.
Samuel Almaraz: I'm I'm
Chad Dunfee: What
Samuel Almaraz: I'm
Chad Dunfee: they cost.
Samuel Almaraz: hoping that my personal coach is gonna give Fred Mcclure some advice on that, if you're
Fred Mcclure: Okay.
Samuel Almaraz: asking Fred Mcclure, but
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: Be because then we would ha ha figure out how much we had to play with
Herbert Rosa: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: in terms
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: of
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: user interface and this look and feel idea.
Herbert Rosa: It does it does seem as if we're just to do something really simple and mass-produced,
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: the which is pretty much the same as these existing models, just maybe
Fred Mcclure: Inspired?
Herbert Rosa: a little bit more inspired,
Fred Mcclure: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: but basically just the same. Although what what uh suddenly came into my head is, you know how they always take two A_A_ batteries which which is really not very efficient at all. Could it be possible to have uh, you know, like a rechargeable internal battery, like,
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: well, like an M_P_ three player does? With that you could jus or a mobile phone or whatever.
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: You could you know, you just plug into a power source for a couple of hours, and then it's recharged for ages and ages and ages, and you don't have to worry with replacing A_A_ batteries,
Fred Mcclure: Well that has
Herbert Rosa: which
Fred Mcclure: another
Herbert Rosa: are
Fred Mcclure: element, which is if every time you're done using the remote you put it on a charger, then
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: you then it has
Herbert Rosa: You'd
Fred Mcclure: a place.
Herbert Rosa: never need uh batteries would y uh yeah.
Fred Mcclure: Yeah, but it also has a place, so
Herbert Rosa: And it's not stuck down the back of
Fred Mcclure: exactly.
Herbert Rosa: the sofa.
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: But then again I d I don't know if this is within our price range or not.
Fred Mcclure: That's a really good idea.
Samuel Almaraz: Well I uh think that's a very interesting idea, but um I'm not a very good industrial designer and I don't know much about what these things cost. I'll do some research for the next meeting.
Fred Mcclure: Well
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: it's better than my idea about solar, probably.
Chad Dunfee: Uh yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: Well solar may not be so good when you're watching T_V_
Fred Mcclure: Yeah,
Samuel Almaraz: in the night,
Fred Mcclure: yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: but
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: Well
Fred Mcclure: Depen
Herbert Rosa: it is just so
Chad Dunfee: It
Herbert Rosa: annoying
Chad Dunfee: would have to sor
Herbert Rosa: how
Chad Dunfee: store up the energy
Fred Mcclure: Mm. Yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah, I guess.
Chad Dunfee: and then use it. Solar can do
Samuel Almaraz: We may
Chad Dunfee: that.
Samuel Almaraz: be talking quite heavy then.
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Chad Dunfee: M yeah, that would be too heavy and it'd cost too much.
Samuel Almaraz: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: No, but just a rechargeable internal battery would probably I mean it might cost more to at first to develop and to
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm
Herbert Rosa: install, but for long-term use it'll be so much more convenient and economic than fiddling around trying to replace chunky A_A_ batteries and
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Herbert Rosa: not having any in your kitchen drawer and
Samuel Almaraz: So
Herbert Rosa: you
Samuel Almaraz: do you
Herbert Rosa: know
Samuel Almaraz: think
Herbert Rosa: f
Samuel Almaraz: we might make that a selling point if it was something that we found we could afford to develop?
Fred Mcclure: Definitely, 'cause I'm thinking
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: in terms of um uh the loss and breakage of um remotes, how much of that is is to do with it not really having a uh a home, a um
Herbert Rosa: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: a nest,
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: Sort
Fred Mcclure: a
Herbert Rosa: of have
Fred Mcclure: place
Herbert Rosa: its little
Fred Mcclure: to live,
Herbert Rosa: dock that you
Fred Mcclure: exactly.
Herbert Rosa: could put
Chad Dunfee: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: it
Fred Mcclure: So
Herbert Rosa: in.
Fred Mcclure: if you can dock it, um you know, you could s argue
Chad Dunfee: And
Fred Mcclure: that
Chad Dunfee: the dock
Fred Mcclure: this
Chad Dunfee: could
Fred Mcclure: is
Chad Dunfee: look very fancy
Fred Mcclure: Exactly.
Chad Dunfee: and that could be your inspiration
Herbert Rosa: Still
Chad Dunfee: of having
Herbert Rosa: I
Chad Dunfee: it
Herbert Rosa: don't
Chad Dunfee: looking
Herbert Rosa: know if
Chad Dunfee: decent.
Herbert Rosa: it's quite within our price range.
Fred Mcclure: Mm.
Chad Dunfee: Hmm.
Fred Mcclure: 'Cause you are talking about another component, like another piece of
Herbert Rosa: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: hardware.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: Mm.
Chad Dunfee: Okay. Are we agreed as to what our target group is though? Pretty much, so
Fred Mcclure: Well
Chad Dunfee: that
Fred Mcclure: I
Chad Dunfee: we'd be
Fred Mcclure: I
Chad Dunfee: looking
Fred Mcclure: brought up
Chad Dunfee: for the
Fred Mcclure: some
Chad Dunfee: younger end.
Fred Mcclure: exactly, but I think you raised some good questions about are there enough of these people out there, or are they
Samuel Almaraz: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: making purchasing decisions? You know,
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah,
Fred Mcclure: these
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: are
Samuel Almaraz: I was
Fred Mcclure: the
Samuel Almaraz: wondering that, because I ag I agree that there there're people with uh how can I put it, more money than sense and who
Fred Mcclure: Yeah,
Samuel Almaraz: are liable
Chad Dunfee: I
Samuel Almaraz: to
Fred Mcclure: exactly.
Samuel Almaraz: buy something
Chad Dunfee: I
Samuel Almaraz: new,
Chad Dunfee: s usually
Samuel Almaraz: but
Chad Dunfee: put more money than brains.
Fred Mcclure: Oh oh oh I'll make a note of that, Kate. Good, good
Samuel Almaraz: Bu
Fred Mcclure: comment.
Samuel Almaraz: but what I was gonna say was, although they they may be buying um, you know, personal music devices and all that, are they necessarily buying T_V_ remote controls? Because they probably live in a household that has a T_V_ if they're
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: at the lower end of the age range, I don't
Herbert Rosa: Yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: know.
Fred Mcclure: It might be good to know um uh who, you know, who's actually buying televisions and are we in a uh uh s region where people have more than one television in
Samuel Almaraz: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: a home?
Samuel Almaraz: I think we've got a big hill to climb here, haven't we?
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Chad Dunfee: Yeah. Or do we s make sure that it goes to the man through the manufacturer? We sell to the manufacturer
Samuel Almaraz: Right,
Chad Dunfee: as
Samuel Almaraz: good point.
Chad Dunfee: the
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah, yeah
Chad Dunfee: remote
Samuel Almaraz: okay,
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: yeah.
Chad Dunfee: that goes with it.
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah, good point.
Chad Dunfee: What would be a more efficient way of doing it?
Fred Mcclure: Yeah, and and some of our D_V_D_ players incidentally have them, because we have the relationship with our own department, but moreover we need to
Chad Dunfee: Mm-hmm.
Fred Mcclure: to go for the the manufacturers.
Chad Dunfee: Okay. Right.
Herbert Rosa: We're not gonna get any resolutions by the end of the day, are we?
Chad Dunfee: Probably
Fred Mcclure: Mm.
Chad Dunfee: not. Um the other thing that we're supposed to do is make decision on our functions. Our functions, we've so far decided, I think, that power, channel, volume make it attractive. Um it has to have an enter key and of course the number keys. It has to have big user-friendly buttons and sh n definitely we wanna be inspired that the current styles are just plain awful.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah.
Fred Mcclure: Do we need um let Fred Mcclure
Chad Dunfee: Is that agreeable
Fred Mcclure: Br
Chad Dunfee: to everyone?
Fred Mcclure: actually,
Samuel Almaraz: Mm-hmm.
Fred Mcclure: um the enter key I have a chart here that I didn't include.
Chad Dunfee: Mm-hmm.
Fred Mcclure: Um
Samuel Almaraz: Do you want the gizmo?
Fred Mcclure: yeah, which might
Chad Dunfee: Throw some light on
Fred Mcclure: Th
Chad Dunfee: that.
Fred Mcclure: yeah, th those are felt like had a lot of charts.
Chad Dunfee: Um actually we're, you know, we are almost a half hour out of the forty minutes, so we have to get close to
Fred Mcclure: Okay,
Chad Dunfee: finishing.
Fred Mcclure: I I my only comment is I think maybe um we could somehow include an enter key in like a power key if power
Chad Dunfee: Ah.
Fred Mcclure: power was enter
Chad Dunfee: Mm-hmm.
Fred Mcclure: and pow that was my only just
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: really in terms of streamlining. Um
Chad Dunfee: Enter, power as a s oh um a sum simultaneous key.
Fred Mcclure: Exactly. Again, you know,
Chad Dunfee: Is
Fred Mcclure: thinking
Chad Dunfee: that okay
Fred Mcclure: of menus
Chad Dunfee: with you?
Fred Mcclure: or
Herbert Rosa: Sorry, I was miles
Chad Dunfee: Would that
Samuel Almaraz: H
Herbert Rosa: away.
Samuel Almaraz: how does
Herbert Rosa: I
Samuel Almaraz: that
Herbert Rosa: was
Samuel Almaraz: work?
Herbert Rosa: re I was
Samuel Almaraz: How
Herbert Rosa: reading the chart to be honest.
Chad Dunfee: uh-huh.
Samuel Almaraz: so so how does that work, how do you avoid switching the thing off when you actually wanna press enter?
Fred Mcclure: Um well if you're pressing enter, the the thing would already be on, and so maybe um when you press power, initially it turns it on, press power again and use that as an enter um so you
Chad Dunfee: Then
Fred Mcclure: press
Chad Dunfee: you'd have to
Fred Mcclure: power
Chad Dunfee: have an off te
Fred Mcclure: after
Chad Dunfee: off key.
Fred Mcclure: you've um well I was thinking maybe you to turn it off you'd have to press power twice
Samuel Almaraz: Okay,
Fred Mcclure: in succession,
Samuel Almaraz: yep, mm-hmm.
Fred Mcclure: and maybe
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: power follows something like a channel up channel down power, and then that would make that choice.
Samuel Almaraz: It's not getting a bit complicated? Could
Fred Mcclure: Well
Samuel Almaraz: granny do this, or are we just not aiming at granny?
Fred Mcclure: Or y yeah. Or something that has a a turning dial, where at the far end is
Herbert Rosa: Who's got
Fred Mcclure: on
Herbert Rosa: an iPod
Fred Mcclure: or off.
Herbert Rosa: then?
Fred Mcclure: Yeah, I don't
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: um I wish. Anyway, uh that was the only comment about um
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: some of the the decisions people have made, what's most important. It's definitely
Chad Dunfee: Mm.
Fred Mcclure: channel, volume, power.
Herbert Rosa: Yeah, things like screen settings and audio settings, I would generally do them on the actual television
Fred Mcclure: Exactly.
Herbert Rosa: itself, like here you have a you know, a little flap th with a little control panel on
Fred Mcclure: Exactly.
Herbert Rosa: the actual box itself. I I wouldn't know how to do it using a remote control,
Fred Mcclure: Yeah.
Herbert Rosa: so um I would say that they are definitely less relevant.
Fred Mcclure: Okay,
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: well. Thanks for looking at that.
Chad Dunfee: So I guess easy to use is the other thing
Fred Mcclure: Mm-hmm.
Chad Dunfee: that we want 'em to be able to do.
Fred Mcclure: We don't wanna
Chad Dunfee: As
Fred Mcclure: outsmart
Chad Dunfee: you said, you know, don't make it too hard for the granny. I just joined that set last
Fred Mcclure: Hmm.
Chad Dunfee: week. Um
Fred Mcclure: Congratulations.
Samuel Almaraz: Mm.
Chad Dunfee: first grandchild arrived.
Samuel Almaraz: Uh.
Chad Dunfee: Um so are we agreed then of those things? And
Fred Mcclure: D
Chad Dunfee: let's go back to agenda and hook Fred Mcclure up. Mm. This oughta be fun. It probably won't go the first time, it'll probably be like a g mess. Come on. Uh it lost it off here.
Fred Mcclure: Oh you're fine.
Chad Dunfee: Uh
Fred Mcclure: It's fine.
Chad Dunfee: No, it was up there, but I couldn't see it down here.
Chad Dunfee: Mm. This time it should be both. There we go.
Samuel Almaraz: How do you do that? How do you make it do both?
Chad Dunfee: Um you have to keep doing the financi the the F_N_ and F_ eight to
Samuel Almaraz: Ah okay,
Chad Dunfee: five
Samuel Almaraz: it
Chad Dunfee: minutes
Samuel Almaraz: toggles
Chad Dunfee: to
Samuel Almaraz: through,
Chad Dunfee: finish, thank
Samuel Almaraz: yeah.
Chad Dunfee: you a lot for telling Fred Mcclure.
Fred Mcclure: I think
Chad Dunfee: Um
Fred Mcclure: you have to cycle through.
Chad Dunfee: right,
Samuel Almaraz: Yeah.
Chad Dunfee: we're ready to close. Um will be completed q questionnaire, um then we'll have some time for individual work to continue our research um and I'll put some minutes of this meeting together. Um your individual assignments are for um Kate to do the components, for you, Steph, to do the user interface and for you the trend-watching. Um and each of us will get help from our coach. Are we agreed to get ourselves together and then have lunch?
Herbert Rosa: Yes.
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Samuel Almaraz: Sounds good.
Chad Dunfee: Then that's the end of this meeting. And I hope that's good enough for her to tell her that's the end. Okay?
Samuel Almaraz: Okay.
Herbert Rosa: We didn't come to any sort of decision on the functions though.
Chad Dunfee: Well I think I went over the functions and wrote them down
Herbert Rosa: Alright,
Chad Dunfee: and
Herbert Rosa: well
Chad Dunfee: marked
Herbert Rosa: that's fine
Chad Dunfee: them.
Herbert Rosa: then.
Chad Dunfee: Um that's what I went over
Fred Mcclure: Okay.
Chad Dunfee: and nobody was objecting to them.
Fred Mcclure: Um and you'd mentioned I I was just gonna say, could you reiterate the new project requirements, because
Chad Dunfee: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: it they were it has to be for a T_V_, just to keep myself
Chad Dunfee: Um the teletext is outdated,
Samuel Almaraz: So we're still in meeting, aren't we?
Fred Mcclure: Yeah,
Chad Dunfee: the
Fred Mcclure: I think
Chad Dunfee: internet
Fred Mcclure: I've
Chad Dunfee: is important, it's only to be for a T_V_ and it must include the corporate image, colour and slogan
Fred Mcclure: Okay.
Chad Dunfee: um which I think is more in the user
Herbert Rosa: Mm.
Chad Dunfee: uh range, with Steph.
Herbert Rosa: Sorry, what what actually are these is that the yellow and black?
Chad Dunfee: It doesn't tell Fred Mcclure.
Fred Mcclure: Mm.
Herbert Rosa: From their I'll just use it from their website.
Chad Dunfee: Mm-hmm. Okay?
Herbert Rosa: Okay.
Samuel Almaraz: Okay.
Fred Mcclure: Right. Thank you. | Chad Dunfee opened the meeting and went over the minutes of the previous meeting. Fred Mcclure discussed user preferences in terms of remote controls and the increasing interest among younger consumers in speech recognition. Fred Mcclure also discussed a user target group for the remote and addressed the issue of whether the target group would result in sufficient sales of the remote. Herbert Rosa presented two existing remote controls on the market, which the team later evaluated, and discussed what features in terms of appearance and functionality the remote the team is creating should include. Samuel Almaraz discussed the interior workings of a remote and addressed the issue of what happens when remotes no longer operate. The team also discussed options for energy sources, such as solar power and rechargeable internal batteries. Th team then discussed their user target group, marketing ideas such as selling the remote to television manufacturers, and what functions the remote would feature. | 3 | amisum | test |
Joseph Wetmore: Hi Kate.
Donald Stewart: Just just
Joseph Wetmore: Okay,
Donald Stewart: carry
Joseph Wetmore: carry
Donald Stewart: on.
Joseph Wetmore: on Alright. um this is the beginning of the third meeting, the conceptual design meeting. Um our agenda should be um that we're opening the meeting, I have the minutes from the previous meeting are on the shared f drive at this point. Um and we should each have a presentation to make. Um we have certain decisions to make and we have forty minutes total. It's twenty five after two at the moment, so forty minutes is five after three um, which I'll be keeping an eye on the clock for us. Okay. Um there are the decisions we have to turn to, but we'll come back to them in a minute after I take us to the minutes of the previous meeting. Right um as we remember, I opened the meeting, the four of us were present, the meeting the first meeting's minutes were reviewed and approved. Um Sarah, you presented a marketing research report um which pretty much rep represented that fifteen to thirty five year olds uh it has to be hand-held, power, channel, volume, number keys, possibly a speech recognition. And then Steph did a second presentation um that those functions plus streamlining them with big user-friendly keys that were easy to use. I think all of us agreed with those things. Kate presented a working design of going after going over the basics on the whiteboard um that it should be a simple mass-produced device, because of the twelve and a half Pence cost. Um but we did talk about possibly using rechargeable batteries and having a docking place as a selling point. Um and the new requirements that it for be for T_V_ only um and that it include the l so slogan and colour of the uh corporate design be included. Um the corporate image. So we agreed that the target market would be fifteen to thirty five with more money than sense, that were decision makers. Alternatively it would be a manufacturer to enclose it with the T_V_, but it still should meet those parameters. Um and that the function we agreed was volume, power, numbers, enter, channels, a way to move between channels, easy to use and hand-held. Um at that point we agreed that Sarah would look at the current cost of competition, what what do the current ones sell for. Um and Steph was gonna look at ec ergonomics. Kate was gonna look at cost and feasibility of the various possibilities that we discussed. And I was to type up these minutes and work on the final report. Is this a fair presentation of
Norman Grey: Yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: what our last meeting was?
Norman Grey: Yes.
Donald Stewart: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay. Right. So we're ready to close that and go back to our That one. Right. We're up to the point of the Go back. Um the three presentations. So we're going to pull the plug on James Martinez and turn to Sarah. Is that okay? Is that alright with everybody else?
Norman Grey: Yep.
Donald Stewart: Mm-hmm.
Joseph Wetmore: Especially since Kate asked to be last. Sarah, I'm sorry if I misspelled your name, I didn't know whether it was S_A_R_A_ or S_A_R_H_.
James Martinez: I respond to either. No
Joseph Wetmore: You respond
James Martinez: worries.
Joseph Wetmore: to whatever you get, huh? Okay.
Joseph Wetmore: Um, did you do your
Norman Grey: Yeah,
Joseph Wetmore: Hit Ah, there it is. Ta-da.
James Martinez: Okay, first thing I want to address is um one of the points that Florence brought up, which was uh current cost of the competition devices, similar to the ones that Stephanie uh showed us and and they're uh twenty to sixty Euros, depending on uh branding.
Norman Grey: Right
James Martinez: Some of them that have a higher brand recognition are on the more expensive end. But I think that with the current um price that we're searching for, we're well within, even on end, of the uh of the market.
Joseph Wetmore: Mm 'kay.
James Martinez: But I'm going to move on to more interesting um more vibrant things. So, I investigated the remote control market in greater detail, and my uh the theme of what I was to work on was uh trend watch. And
Joseph Wetmore: 'Kay.
Donald Stewart: Sorry. I'm glad to see the marketing budget is being so well spent on.
James Martinez: I know that you all are a distance from cutting edge marketing research, so you know, I'm just gonna try to cloak it in really professional terms here. What's hot, fruit and veg. Spongy. And this is all over the catwalks, Paris, Milan, and I'm talking about clothing, furniture, shoes. This is really interesting change from past years, because
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: it is much more organic, um some would say approachable. And I think if we're to refashion our view of what we want in a remote control, we should perhaps think about incorporating technologically interesting fabrics and some of the bold colours into a simple handset. So. I also did a little research on um what again are the most important priorities in uh decision making about uh purchasing. Fancy. Functional is out. And f the fancy, and that's exactly the term, I'm I'm thinking polished, elegant, you know, kind of innovative, but a cut above. This is twice as important as the next finding, which is technologically innovative. This is interesting, 'cause I think in the last meeting we were talking about technology as being so important, but maybe what's innovative is having it simple with um with uh technologically superior fabrics or uh, you know, designed in interesting substances. Ease of use. Again, pretty low, I mean it's the top three, but each of the uh fancy and technologically innovative are far more important. So I think we should cloak the streamlined remote control device in a series of fruit fruit themed sleeves.
Donald Stewart: I think that's a good idea. Don't
James Martinez: Y
Donald Stewart: you?
James Martinez: yeah,
Norman Grey: Yes.
Joseph Wetmore: It
James Martinez: you know
Joseph Wetmore: sounds like the the uh covers that they use for the
James Martinez: Exactly.
Joseph Wetmore: remote, you know, your t your cell phone.
James Martinez: Exactly. I was thinking though that instead of having something uh like patterned, you know, so, you know, something similar to a summer dress. you know, it would
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: have like fruit and veg, is that we actually make these spongy. They could be ini initially I thought we could start with kind of um fruit that would suit kind of uh a long uh hand-held, so banana, pineapple and pear. Um it could actually the sleeve could take up a lot of the development and the remote control, we'd just need to get reductionist on it. They could be interchangeable, they're spongy, that goes back to ergonomic, and the youngsters love 'em, fun for the whole family, everyone can have their own. So what we're talking about is changing. this concept. Everyone has a T_V_ remote, but then we add in the fact that they could each have their own individual fruit. That's what's hot on the catwalks. So, this is my This is what I'm thinking.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm. Uh-huh mm. In most families, don't isn't the remote is a remote.
James Martinez: Y yeah, but I think I think what this would allow is perhaps a person in the family who had the most opinion about it we all need a remote, but
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: the person who is really perhaps active in personalising, I'm thinking the teenager, the someone fifteen to thirty five would go out and get this additional thing the same way as you mentioned that people would get the cell
Norman Grey: So
James Martinez: phone covers.
Norman Grey: when your dad's sitting there, overriding your decision, going no we're gonna watch this, you can bring out your own remote and be like zap, no we're gonna watch this.
James Martinez: Yeah. W and
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: plus I think
Joseph Wetmore: Well actually some households do have three and four
James Martinez: Uh yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: T_V_s
James Martinez: Yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: and they would have a remote for each one, so.
James Martinez: Yeah. So this is an idea and I I you know, this is exactly what the research has uh has shown. So I really open this up to uh any other feedback. This spongy fruit and veg.
Donald Stewart: Yeah,
James Martinez: Thanks.
Donald Stewart: I I think we're gonna have some trouble when we get down to the component design
James Martinez: Alright.
Donald Stewart: on this.
Norman Grey: Yep.
Donald Stewart: Spongy
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: is gonna be difficult, I'm afraid.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Norman Grey: And as for as for um well budgeting as well, if we're gonna have lots of different interchangeable components.
James Martinez: I I just have my ear to the market,
Norman Grey: Is this
James Martinez: guys.
Norman Grey: to the market?
Donald Stewart: Yeah, I mean basically we can make these things out of wood, titanium, plastic or rubber. I rubber is the closest
James Martinez: Is spongiest,
Donald Stewart: to spongy, yeah.
James Martinez: yeah. That would add
Donald Stewart: I was thinking titanium
Norman Grey: I was
Donald Stewart: myself.
Norman Grey: titanium I was thinking it's just I have been influenced by pictures of iPods,
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: and they're also minimalist and shiny.
James Martinez: They are and they they would fulfil the uh first um priority, which is fancy. I think many of us would associate those with fancy. Something else we could do is uh call it something that's fruit and veg oriented. We could call it uh
Joseph Wetmore: Are we talking about the
James Martinez: The name.
Joseph Wetmore: device itself or the c or a cover for the device that would be an interchangeable cov cover as a separate product?
James Martinez: Well it would be uh a a very simple product that would have a spongy sleeve that would be interchangeable.
Joseph Wetmore: Perhaps
James Martinez: So
Norman Grey: Yeah, but it's kind
Joseph Wetmore: perhaps
Norman Grey: of pointless,
Joseph Wetmore: that desi
Norman Grey: isn't
Joseph Wetmore: that
Norman Grey: it?
Joseph Wetmore: particular suggestion needs to go back to management and perhaps go to another group to actually design as a
Norman Grey: Yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: separate product.
James Martinez: That, you know, that
Norman Grey: Let's
James Martinez: might be
Norman Grey: delegate.
Joseph Wetmore: Wo would
James Martinez: And
Joseph Wetmore: that
James Martinez: then
Joseph Wetmore: be
James Martinez: we could
Joseph Wetmore: agreeable?
James Martinez: keep it
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
James Martinez: titanium.
Donald Stewart: W w would it be helpful if um I described the components a bit, because I think it would give you um maybe bring this discussion back to Earth of what we can actually physically do.
Norman Grey: Yeah, maybe. Or
Joseph Wetmore: Do you wanna be next or you want Kate to go next?
Norman Grey: I think possibly it might be more useful if Kate went next.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay, we'll move the
Norman Grey: Um
Norman Grey: You can even have them in different flavours as well. So that if you just wanna sit there and chew on the remote, it could be like
James Martinez: Yeah.
Norman Grey: pear
James Martinez: Or
Norman Grey: flavour,
James Martinez: s or smelly.
Norman Grey: yeah.
James Martinez: Scratchy
Norman Grey: Scratch and sniff.
James Martinez: Uh well I was really thinking a lot about the I_ uh the iMac kind of gel gem tone. It's hot on the streets,
Donald Stewart: Right,
James Martinez: guys.
Donald Stewart: well I I I think some of this um you're gonna be a little disappointed with some of the things I have to tell you, but I'm afraid this is the real world. So um I've been looking at the the basics of how these devices actually have to work in order to operate, and I've had some discussions with the ma manufacturing division, who have told James Martinez what's actually available, you know, what the current state of the art in components is, and some of the exciting new things they've got, but I'm not sure that it's quite what you want um. Now this isn't a very good overhead, but this is just to show you, this is the innards of a remote control um. I really need a pen or something but uh does my mouse work? No. Um oh yeah, can you see my little mouse pointer?
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Donald Stewart: Right. This is this is the a a a remote that's been opened up
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Donald Stewart: and that's the the back of the interface. And this is a push-button one, so you see these little little buttons here, they're little rubber rubber buttons that go through onto the the board at the back and they push these buttons here. Um and we that's the basic construction that we've got to got to accommodate. We got to have something that pushes the little buttons that um talk to the chip that encodes the message that sends the the message to the receiver. So um I wan I wanna go through not not just addressing the um uh the the points that you made, Sarah, but um doing my presentation in the order I wrote it. So first of all um I wanna talk about what possibilities we've got for the energy source. Um we can have your bog standard double double A_ batteries in a replaceable um little compartment. We can have a hand sorry
Norman Grey: A wind-up.
Donald Stewart: a wind-up, yeah, which I think is quite an interesting concept for a sorry for a remote control, but i it maybe is doesn't quite go with the um the fruit and veg. Um
Joseph Wetmore: Alright.
Donald Stewart: one that one that I think is quite interesting is the
Joseph Wetmore: Remember,
Donald Stewart: kinetic
Joseph Wetmore: we only
Donald Stewart: energy
Joseph Wetmore: have
Donald Stewart: source,
Joseph Wetmore: forty minutes
Donald Stewart: where um
James Martinez: Mm.
Donald Stewart: you you actually get the energy by moving the device, which is quite
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: a ni a nice and neat one. You have to it means that if it's sitting there for a long time it probably won't work, but you have to sort of throw it between your hands every now and then, it'll work.
James Martinez: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: Or we we had talked about solar power, but I thing that we agreed that that's not so good in the dark.
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Donald Stewart: Now I'm afraid this is the options we've got on on the case. It can be made of plastic, rubber, wood o if you like, or titanium.
James Martinez: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: Um and the nearest we've got to st to spongy there I guess is rubber, but um
James Martinez: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: I'm gonna come back to the advantages of titanium, and basically it can have a flat surface, a curved surface or a double curved surface, but I think if we wanna use standard components, we're gonna have difficulty with anything much beyond that.
James Martinez: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: Okay, what does the interface look like? Um well push button, that's that's the one we're all familiar with. Um we can have scroll buttons and the the scroll button
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: can incorporate a push, so you can have it like on a mouse where you can use it to go up and down, change volume or channel or something like that and push to select something. Um you can have multiple scroll buttons, um this is maybe getting a little bit complicated, but um it's it the technology is there. And we can also incorporate an L_C_D_ display in the remote, but this will increase the cost. Um the electronics that actually makes the device work, we've basically got three, simple, regular, advanced, and the price goes up as we choose each of this. If we want the nice cheap one, the simple, then we can only have push buttons. All the other fancy interface designs go out the window, I'm afraid. Um pay a little bit more for a regular chip and you can have scroll buttons. If you want the advanced chip it obviously costs more, the L_C_D_ display. And the manufacturing devision tell James Martinez that they have recently developed um sample sensor sample speaker devices. Now I don't know what that is, but I think they think it's quite important and we might want to incorporate it somewhere. Um ou our real expertise is in push buttons, I have to say, but maybe you think that's old technology.
James Martinez: Mm.
Donald Stewart: And well I I think we've got two options. We can either go for a really cheap model, keep all of the costs down, um which means a flat plastic case with an ordinary battery and simple push buttons. Or we can have something that looks a bit nicer, I think it, um won't necessarily l uh look like a pineapple, but um that may or may not be a good thing. Sorry. Um but it could have an L_C_D_ screen and it could have multiple scroll buttons, and it could have the the company's new development of the um sample sensor and speaker. So, thank you.
James Martinez: That sounds good. Any idea you you mentioned that there would be a cost difference. Um do you have any idea if if this could if the fancy model could be done in twelve Euros fifty?
Donald Stewart: Yeah, I'm afraid I don't have that information available. Um manufacturing didn't actually give attach any prices to any of this, I'm afraid.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
James Martinez: Hmm. Because, you know what, I'm being quite serious when I say that that um the things I mentioned are hot. But I think the important thing might be to choose one. You know, if
Donald Stewart: Yeah
James Martinez: if what you're telling
Donald Stewart: mm-hmm.
James Martinez: James Martinez is is um some of these things aren't just f aren't feasible, maybe we could something about naming, we could call it, you know, Blackberry. That's
Norman Grey: Bear
James Martinez: uh
Norman Grey: bear in mind it has to be the colours and styles of the company, so what I had been thinking was something chunky and yellow and plastic with black buttons with
Donald Stewart: Banana?
Norman Grey: a logo on it.
James Martinez: Alright, well let's see then.
Norman Grey: But um I I don't know how important that is
James Martinez: Yeah.
Norman Grey: to keep it exactly the colours of the Real Reaction company. It's just what I'd understood
James Martinez: Yeah.
Norman Grey: we'd be doing. That's before I heard about all this hot tips about the future, fruit-wise.
James Martinez: But yeah, I'm trying
Donald Stewart: We
James Martinez: to
Donald Stewart: we
James Martinez: streamline
Donald Stewart: could we could
James Martinez: mine
Donald Stewart: do
James Martinez: a little
Donald Stewart: um
James Martinez: bit.
Donald Stewart: a double curved rubber one, which would allow um say a banana, but um unfortunately I see from my notes that if we do that, we have to have a push button as
James Martinez: Yeah.
Donald Stewart: the interface, we can't do anything fancier.
James Martinez: Hmm.
Norman Grey: Shall we wait 'til I've
James Martinez: Yeah.
Norman Grey: 'til I've showed you what well, my extensive presentation on what sort of interfaces are available.
James Martinez: Mm.
Donald Stewart: Yep.
James Martinez: Thank you, Kate.
Joseph Wetmore: Thank you, Kate.
James Martinez: Mm.
Norman Grey: You did seem to include just in more detail what I've got though. So so mine's a bit pointless. Right. F_N_ and F_ eight, did you
Joseph Wetmore: Yes.
Norman Grey: say?
Joseph Wetmore: There we go.
Norman Grey: I don't have it on mine though.
James Martinez: Oh I think um Florence resolved it by
Donald Stewart: I If you do F_
James Martinez: F_ eight
Joseph Wetmore: Do
James Martinez: again.
Joseph Wetmore: it again.
Donald Stewart: uh F_N_ F_ eight again, it's it'll
Joseph Wetmore: Keep doing it until you get it in both you get it
Donald Stewart: I think
Joseph Wetmore: there,
Donald Stewart: it
Joseph Wetmore: you get it
Donald Stewart: yeah,
Joseph Wetmore: yours
Donald Stewart: you
Joseph Wetmore: without
Donald Stewart: you will do
Joseph Wetmore: that
Donald Stewart: an
Joseph Wetmore: one, and then you get it with both.
Norman Grey: Should I do it again?
James Martinez: Maybe.
Joseph Wetmore: Yeah. This time it should come up both.
Norman Grey: Right then. I don't actually have a huge amount of different information then what
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Norman Grey: Kate says, just that my method was to look at the, well, my my inspirations, which was a big collection of lots of different models of
Joseph Wetmore: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: remote controls and other things that use a similar sort of thing, including M_P_ three players, uh like you know, hi-fi remotes, not
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Norman Grey: just television and these things. Uh having a think about the feature of ea the features of each ones, um what functions we actually need, and then how to group and arrange these on the actual the actual plastic or rubber hand-held piece. Uh I've been especially interested in the iPod style scroll wheel, which Well, I couldn't find a the picture of the iPod w only linked to a web browser, so I couldn't copy and paste it, but it had a similar thing to this thing on the right. It has uh scroll wheels without without a display, but they they scroll like a computer mouse.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Norman Grey: So I was thinking
Donald Stewart: Hmm.
Norman Grey: that uh um a really simple a really simple interface with just a couple of scroll things on it um and then instead of a display the display could appear on the television screen. Like I guess an existing Sky or cable one does. Like, you know, you press enter and it comes up with what's showing on that channel at the moment, and you can do you can scroll along and it'll show you what's on in the next half hour, and you scroll up and you can see what's on the other channels while you're watching the same channel on the screen. Uh but I'm also equally taken with this chunky plastic kiddie remote,
James Martinez: Mm.
Norman Grey: um which is really nice and fun and good to hold and nice, big, easy buttons to press, but still quite simple and quite cost effective. So what seems kind of ideal for James Martinez would be to just have a fairly simple, uh not fancy but not totally minimalist, I mean just pretty simple plastic, probably, I was thinking, yellow and black, just because that's the company's colours, with very very few buttons, but that would correspond to a screen that would appear on the television screen, like, you know, just small along the bottom instead of instead of having the iPod style display screen on the actual remotes, which is far too expensive.
Donald Stewart: Hmm.
Norman Grey: And when
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Norman Grey: you've got a screen sitting there in front of you, you might as well have it appearing uh on the screen in front of you, it doesn't obscure much of the actual picture you're watching.
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: And so on that you can, just much in the same way as an existing Sky remote, scroll along, scroll up and
Donald Stewart: Yeah, I'd I'd certainly
Norman Grey: down.
Donald Stewart: support
Norman Grey: And
Donald Stewart: that
Norman Grey: uh
Donald Stewart: idea.
Norman Grey: and I definitely support uh the use of plastic and or rubber. I mean titanium would be great, but I think it might be a bit too expensive and too kinda spacey. If we're k trying to keep it colourful and slightly organic, then I think titanium's too futuristic.
Donald Stewart: It's difficult to make fancy shapes in it as well, we can't for example
Norman Grey: Yeah.
Donald Stewart: have a double curved case in titanium unfortunately.
Norman Grey: Whereas a plastic's so cheap and easy and mouldable and everything else.
James Martinez: Hmm.
Norman Grey: Uh then
Donald Stewart: And the the having the the the screen on the television screen I think is a good idea, 'cause um otherwise we're we're putting up the price not only for putting building the L_C_D_ in, but for the electronics as well.
Norman Grey: And it's a little bit pointless as well I think.
James Martinez: It's
Norman Grey: Like
Donald Stewart: There
James Martinez: a
Donald Stewart: is
James Martinez: duplication.
Norman Grey: when
Donald Stewart: that.
Norman Grey: when when you've got when you've got the screen there, it doesn't have to be anything fancy just, a little menu showing yeah, a menu, you go into one menu and then it can have your different options, whether you wanna change the settings or the
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: you know, your information about programme that's on at the moment. I don't think that's to taxing to uh s engineer. Um. But as for actually arranging them let James Martinez go back to the to the picture of the kiddie one. And I quite like it, 'cause it's just smooth and hand-held and it's got these easily reachable buttons that quite nicely uh spaced out, so something a bit like that with buttons arranged in a kind of circle.
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: Up, down, left, right.
Donald Stewart: Do you want scroll buttons in that as well?
Norman Grey: I I was thinking not actually scroll, like a like mouse scroll, but you know, a I can't quite d uh describe it. you see on the one on the right, down at the bottom, is the mouse. Yeah, see where the mouse is, like
Donald Stewart: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: this s style thing where you c have up, down, left and right.
Donald Stewart: Right.
Norman Grey: And enter in the middle, so you pick your menu and then your different options and when when you click on each one, it you can go into a new menu for that. I'm getting a bit uh specific here. Really we'd have to
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: use
Donald Stewart: I think
Norman Grey: something
Donald Stewart: I think
Norman Grey: to
Donald Stewart: that's
Norman Grey: show
Donald Stewart: a g
Norman Grey: you,
Donald Stewart: nice clean
Norman Grey: but
Donald Stewart: design, it's playing to our strengths which are in push button technology.
James Martinez: To uh
Norman Grey: If I don't think I
James Martinez: m
Norman Grey: can get it up on
James Martinez: make
Norman Grey: the screen.
James Martinez: it.
Norman Grey: Ah here we go. Right.
James Martinez: Oh nice. Um
Norman Grey: Well, the iPod
James Martinez: Hmm.
Norman Grey: spinning wheel is uh really complicated.
Joseph Wetmore: Huh.
Norman Grey: It does
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: scroll, but it is hugely complicated.
James Martinez: Mm.
Norman Grey: What else have we got?
James Martinez: Wow.
Norman Grey: Them, they're terrible. But they all have this this feature of this uh It's not quite a scroll wheel, but
Joseph Wetmore: It's a selection wheel.
Norman Grey: it's a kind of selection in this circle, which I think is a really good idea.
Donald Stewart: But we can implement it with simple push buttons,
Norman Grey: Yeah,
Donald Stewart: which is much cheaper.
Norman Grey: like up, down, left and right. Which is good. And then and then Yeah, so I mean either a channel up and down, volume up and down, next appearing programmes up and down, uh and then also when you get into the different menus on the screen, it's got your things like settings and contrast
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Norman Grey: up and down. So all you really need is these four buttons with the enter in the middle.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Norman Grey: And that's it.
Donald Stewart: In fact
Norman Grey: Look at look at this one.
Donald Stewart: Oh that's really nice.
Norman Grey: Almost impossible to misplace or l or lose.
James Martinez: Do you think with
Norman Grey: Might
James Martinez: um
Norman Grey: take up your whole living room.
James Martinez: It seems that that uh you guys are quite keen on the plastic, perhaps the something reminiscent of the child's remote. Do you think we could put it in a in a fruit colour? And have it abstract. You know, we could call
Norman Grey: Possibly.
James Martinez: like a fruit
Norman Grey: Yeah.
Donald Stewart: Hmm.
James Martinez: name, but it would be a little more abstract.
Donald Stewart: Mm.
Norman Grey: That also
Donald Stewart: We we
Norman Grey: is
Donald Stewart: could
Norman Grey: possible.
Donald Stewart: actually do it in rubber instead of
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Donald Stewart: plastic if you'd rather
James Martinez: I'm
Donald Stewart: if
Norman Grey: Just
James Martinez: just
Donald Stewart: you feel
James Martinez: just
Donald Stewart: if you
James Martinez: throwing
Joseph Wetmore: Or
Donald Stewart: like
Joseph Wetmore: call
Donald Stewart: the
James Martinez: out
Donald Stewart: spongy
James Martinez: ideas.
Joseph Wetmore: it a or call it a banana and have
Donald Stewart: Hmm.
Joseph Wetmore: it in yellow.
James Martinez: Yeah. I'm thinking maybe we need to be a little bit more abstract if the design
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
James Martinez: constraints
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
James Martinez: are so
Norman Grey: Uh just something else I need to bring to your attention is have you have you seen these on a remote? This is actually the volume up and down, but
Joseph Wetmore: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: they both say V_ on them,
Joseph Wetmore: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: which, when you first look at it, you expect that to be the down, because
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: it looks like a downward pointing arrow, but it's
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Norman Grey: actually the V_ to indicate that it's the volume,
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: so uh we do need to avoid little ambiguities like these.
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
James Martinez: Nice. Good point.
Norman Grey: But we wouldn't have a specific volume up and down. If we're having the scroll wheel, then it's gonna double up as all the other up and down functions.
Joseph Wetmore: Mm 'kay.
Norman Grey: But then, that's complicated.
Joseph Wetmore: I wanna thank you all for all your presentations. We have about ten minutes left, in which time we have to make some decisions on the remote control concepts. Um and I think you all have been self-stimulating of working together. Um we need to come up with some specifics of
Joseph Wetmore: the interface type things. So let's Mm. Right. They want us to decide what form of energy are we going to use, which the choices that we've discussed were pretty much battery, kinetic or solar. Um this is where Kate's expertise comes in, and our decision making will be a little bit guided by Kate at this point. The You were saying that the kinetic would be useful, that is you just have to move it some and you'd be able to use it um as opposed to a battery that you have to either put it in a recharger or um keep replacing the batteries. Um or solar that you'd have difficulty with it if it's a dark day, that it'll die on you, and no way to do it. That's the day you wanna use the T_V_.
Donald Stewart: Mm.
Joseph Wetmore: Um so what's our pleasure here, what would be the cost consequences of each of the three?
Donald Stewart: Oh unfortunately I don't have costing information.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Donald Stewart: I i in terms of workability, I I think the the two front-runners are the standard battery or the kinetic, but I'm
Joseph Wetmore: Mm 'kay.
Donald Stewart: sorry I don't figures on the difference in cost.
Joseph Wetmore: What's the uh feelings of the group on the kinetic?
James Martinez: I've used kinetic in terms of watches and it's very very uh handy, you don't even notice um
Norman Grey: It sounds
James Martinez: that it's
Norman Grey: great.
James Martinez: there.
Norman Grey: I've never come across it before, but it sounds fantastic. Sounds
James Martinez: It's
Norman Grey: like it could be g a really good economical
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: it would make the whole thing a lot lighter, more convenient.
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
James Martinez: It could tie in with the fanciful design as
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Norman Grey: Yeah.
James Martinez: uh,
Norman Grey: 'Cause
James Martinez: you
Norman Grey: it's really a quite attractive
James Martinez: know, throw
Norman Grey: thought,
James Martinez: the banana,
Norman Grey: isn't it?
James Martinez: you
Norman Grey: It's
James Martinez: know,
Norman Grey: like
James Martinez: just gotta keep it moving.
Norman Grey: yeah, a good
Joseph Wetmore: So
James Martinez: Be
Norman Grey: selling
Joseph Wetmore: the consensus
Norman Grey: point.
Joseph Wetmore: seems to be use the kinetic if it's at all possible.
Norman Grey: But it does depend how much
Joseph Wetmore: It costs.
Norman Grey: I mean how much it costs and how much more development and research it needs.
James Martinez: Yeah.
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
Donald Stewart: And and how much you do have to keep it moving,
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: Yeah.
Donald Stewart: 'cause I'm conscious that watching T_V_ can be quite a sed sedentary activity.
James Martinez: Mm-hmm. But I could
Joseph Wetmore: Mm.
James Martinez: market that as a um as a
Norman Grey: Do your exercises while you're watching
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: the
James Martinez: a
Norman Grey: T_V_.
James Martinez: I was thinking actually a a cost saver down the road, in terms of battery,
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Donald Stewart: True,
James Martinez: you know.
Donald Stewart: yeah, m more more environmentally friendly.
Norman Grey: Yeah,
James Martinez: Mm-hmm.
Norman Grey: that's what I
Joseph Wetmore: Yeah.
Norman Grey: was thinking as
James Martinez: You
Norman Grey: well.
James Martinez: know, kind of the
Joseph Wetmore: Thanks for the reminder for five minutes to finish, thanks. Um the next thing that they wanted us to do was look at chip on print as a decision.
Donald Stewart: Oh right, okay, I'd that that's something I maybe should have covered. Um chip on print is just a manufacturing technique
Joseph Wetmore: Oh.
Donald Stewart: um and I would certainly recommend it, I think, because I'm not sure I have an alternative.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Donald Stewart: I i it it's
Joseph Wetmore: What
Donald Stewart: just
Joseph Wetmore: about
Donald Stewart: the way
Joseph Wetmore: the ca
Donald Stewart: that
Joseph Wetmore: yeah.
Donald Stewart: the the the
Joseph Wetmore: Oh,
Donald Stewart: uh
Joseph Wetmore: the way we
Donald Stewart: th the way it's ac it's actually
Joseph Wetmore: uh-huh.
Donald Stewart: built and you you print onto the circuit board like you might print onto paper.
Joseph Wetmore: Oh, okay. Um what about the case? I think they're talking there about do we want wood, plastic, titanium or rubber, and I think we've discussed not having titanium. One, it's too expensive, um and second, it won't do this double um curves. Um we've sort of eliminated wood. We said plastic or rubber. What's the pleasure?
Donald Stewart: Well if if Sarah's keen on a spongy feel, the the rubber that we're talking about is the same as you have in those little stress balls,
James Martinez: That's
Donald Stewart: so
James Martinez: exactly
Donald Stewart: it's
James Martinez: what I was thinking.
Donald Stewart: yeah.
James Martinez: I'm sold.
Joseph Wetmore: What about you?
Norman Grey: Do you not think it might need like a kind of a hard plastic inner shell with the actual delicate workings inside, and then a
James Martinez: Mm.
Norman Grey: kind of spongy
James Martinez: Kind of like an internal egg.
Joseph Wetmore: Cover.
Norman Grey: Yeah, s thick
Joseph Wetmore: Uh-huh.
Norman Grey: spongy cover, so it feels like the whole thing's spongy, but actually you're not damaging anything by
Joseph Wetmore: Plastic inside.
Norman Grey: squeezing it.
James Martinez: Yeah.
Norman Grey: Because
Donald Stewart: Yeah.
Norman Grey: I mean you could just
Donald Stewart: I'd
Norman Grey: get
Donald Stewart: I'd
Norman Grey: carried
Donald Stewart: need
Norman Grey: away
Donald Stewart: to talk
Norman Grey: with
Donald Stewart: to manufacturing
Norman Grey: the with the tac
Donald Stewart: again about whether that's actually possible, but I agree, it's uh sounds
Norman Grey: Yeah.
Donald Stewart: like a nice
Norman Grey: Well
Donald Stewart: idea if it
Norman Grey: you
Donald Stewart: is.
Norman Grey: do get a bit carried away with things that are tactile, you just wanna
Joseph Wetmore: Hmm.
Norman Grey: stroke them and squeeze
James Martinez: And with sports
Norman Grey: them,
Joseph Wetmore: Okay.
Norman Grey: and
James Martinez: on television. You know.
Joseph Wetmore: Um the
James Martinez: I
Joseph Wetmore: next
Donald Stewart: I
James Martinez: su
Donald Stewart: should
Joseph Wetmore: part
Donald Stewart: I should
Joseph Wetmore: they want
Donald Stewart: r
Joseph Wetmore: is the user interface concept. I'm sorry to push you, but we only have a couple minutes to finish with.
James Martinez: Then I'll just say I support either from a marketing point of view I support either decision that the designers make on that.
Joseph Wetmore: Okay, and it says interface. What type and what supplements?
Norman Grey: Just copy the one on the left. No um a scroll Well, like four buttons, up, down, left and right with enter in the middle, that will correspond to a menu on the screen.
Donald Stewart: Which I think technically is just push button and uh I'd certainly support
Norman Grey: Yeah,
Donald Stewart: that that
Norman Grey: I'd
Donald Stewart: that
Norman Grey: like
Donald Stewart: brings
Norman Grey: push
Donald Stewart: the cost
Norman Grey: buttons
Donald Stewart: down quite
Norman Grey: with
Donald Stewart: a lot and it's something that we're an ex the company's an expert on.
Norman Grey: So push buttons
Joseph Wetmore: Okay, um that's that. Um this is gonna sound weird, but the next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Whew. And they actually want a look and feel design, user interface design, you can look and see this as well as I can. Marketing they want product
Norman Grey: No,
Joseph Wetmore: evaluation.
Norman Grey: it's
James Martinez: No
Norman Grey: still
James Martinez: we can't, actually.
Norman Grey: it's still
Joseph Wetmore: Oh.
Norman Grey: plugged in on mine
Joseph Wetmore: Oh
Norman Grey: actually.
Joseph Wetmore: my, I'm sorry.
James Martinez: That's why I was looking over your shoulder
Joseph Wetmore: Oh, okay. Sorry about that. missed that one. This ought to be fun trying to get this thing to work. Ah, ta-da.
Norman Grey: Now it's gone again.
Joseph Wetmore: Ah.
Donald Stewart: You know, I think the the company's s next project should to design a better overhead device that
Joseph Wetmore: Yes,
Donald Stewart: switches immediately.
Joseph Wetmore: because I can't even see mine. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes,
Norman Grey: Oh yes.
Joseph Wetmore: these are the individual actions. Yeah, right. Um
James Martinez: Mm.
Joseph Wetmore: the look and feel design is for Kate, uh Steph gets the user interface design, you get product evaluation. Um the two of you get to play with a Pla modelling clay
Norman Grey: Great.
Joseph Wetmore: um to do a prototype. Uh and everybody gets individual instructions in the usual way.
James Martinez: Sounds good.
Joseph Wetmore: Anything else we need to do?
Norman Grey: I don't think so.
Joseph Wetmore: Go to it.
Norman Grey: Play-Doh.
Joseph Wetmore: And that's the end of this meeting. That's for her benefit.
James Martinez: That's really all I got, guys. | Joseph Wetmore opened the meeting and went over the minutes of the previous meeting. James Martinez presented findings from trend watching reports and discussed her personal preferences in how to incorporate the results of the trend watching reports into the appearance of the remote. The trend watching reports indicated that products need to reflect a fruit and vegetable theme, sponginess, fanciness, and technological innovation. The team then discussed their target group and whether to use titanium or a spongy material in their design. Donald Stewart discussed options for energy sources, materials, case shapes, and interface components such as buttons and LCD screens. Norman Grey examined the interfaces of existing products and discussed using menus within an interface using push buttons which operate like a scroll wheel. The team then discussed and made decisions on what energy sources, chips, case materials, and buttons to use. | 3 | amisum | test |
Michael Wilmot: Okay uh Agnes, you
Samuel Dietzel: Yep.
Michael Wilmot: can help Brian Weber for the
Samuel Dietzel: Sure.
Michael Wilmot: when okay. Okay, welcome back. I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time. How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting. Okay, and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you. And it's in the, I think uh, in the sharing folder. And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects. So can you go to the next slide? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening. Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management, what I'm going to do, and uh, of course, I'm doing the project management and secretary both, okay, to take the minutes of the meeting. And there are three presentations. One is uh new project requirements. And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions. And uh finally we are closing. Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes, so you have to be very quick. And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal, okay, and I have to discuss a few points on this. Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project. Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded, okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology. So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design. And the second one is about uh the remote control. Should be used only for the T_V_. That's what our uh management says. And the third point, it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image, okay, with this new project or new product. Okay. So I will invite uh Agnes, can you go to the third slide?
Samuel Dietzel: No, this is the third.
Michael Wilmot: Okay, So, I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design.
Christian Leanos: 'Kay, do you wanna
Samuel Dietzel: Sure.
Christian Leanos: open the
Samuel Dietzel: Um. You're participant s
Christian Leanos: I'm number.
Samuel Dietzel: Two?
Christian Leanos: That's it.
Samuel Dietzel: Do you want the mouse, or do you want Brian Weber to
Christian Leanos: I'll do the notes. Yeah, thanks. So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements, and from my experience, I wanna uh, and from research I did, uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button, you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point, you know. Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it. Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them. So uh, I also, since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product, thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those, and, as I said in the first meeting, um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction, especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance, and it is reliable, and so forth. I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth, so, I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic, which I kinda like the idea, 'cause it made Brian Weber think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off, that might be interesting. And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off, and the sound on and off, and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today, uh
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Christian Leanos: fifty years later. And uh it was really a pioneering innovation, but it was uh sensitive to the sun, so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems. So, uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r
Brian Weber: Fantastic.
Christian Leanos: um really uh something to keep in mind. It'd be easy to find. And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off, you could use it for something else. And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer, I didn't really know what to do with this slide. But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this, and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board. I don't know why um we were asked to do this. So, uh personal preferences, um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here, and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference. So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it. I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme, be very colourful, or you could make it clear, and um kind of blend in with things, so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home. Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof, because uh sometimes they fall into cups and, you know, it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that. Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not, because half the time, I keep pushing on the remote control, and I don't know if it's actually understood my message, so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue. And uh, course I never wanna replace the battery. So, that's those are my f preferences, and that's my presentation.
Michael Wilmot: Yeah, let Brian Weber uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility, other feature, like uh unbreakable.
Christian Leanos: Yes.
Michael Wilmot: Okay, because uh especially today, you know, you have the family and the kids, okay, and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes
Christian Leanos: Run over
Michael Wilmot: and.
Christian Leanos: it with a car.
Michael Wilmot: Yes. Okay, so if you can add the feature, okay, for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay, with unbreakable, okay, I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product,
Christian Leanos: Good
Michael Wilmot: if I'm
Christian Leanos: idea.
Michael Wilmot: not wrong.
Christian Leanos: Good idea, I'll I'll uh um
Michael Wilmot: Maybe you can uh add it in that.
Christian Leanos: Yes, very good.
Michael Wilmot: Okay, uh thank you Christine, and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications, or any discussion on the functional design?
Samuel Dietzel: Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials? 'Cause, for example, in the unbreakable thing, doing something plastic would be harder, whereas
Christian Leanos: Hmm.
Samuel Dietzel: having something like, I dunno, steel or titanium
Christian Leanos: Titanium.
Samuel Dietzel: isn't really
Christian Leanos: Titanium
Brian Weber: Titanium.
Christian Leanos: would be
Samuel Dietzel: economically viable.
Christian Leanos: be heavy, too, wouldn't
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: it? No, I haven't really um I wanted feedback, I think we need to rate rank these,
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: but we'll see what your uh personal
Samuel Dietzel: Sure,
Christian Leanos: preferences
Samuel Dietzel: yeah.
Christian Leanos: are and your
Samuel Dietzel: No, I
Christian Leanos: thoughts.
Samuel Dietzel: just that you had any sort of
Christian Leanos: I like titanium. It's light.
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Brian Weber: Expensive.
Christian Leanos: Uh yeah
Samuel Dietzel: The
Christian Leanos: but
Samuel Dietzel: marketing comes
Christian Leanos: uh who
Samuel Dietzel: out.
Christian Leanos: who said who said
Michael Wilmot: Yes.
Christian Leanos: we were, you know, nobody told Brian Weber how mu what our financial objective is, so um
Michael Wilmot: Yeah
Christian Leanos: It'd
Michael Wilmot: so
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Michael Wilmot: Yeah
Christian Leanos: of titanium
Michael Wilmot: the the
Christian Leanos: though.
Michael Wilmot: I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing. Uh let Brian Weber go quickly, maybe if I can go back. I know the project plan and the budget. So I can close this, not sure. Was in uh
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Michael Wilmot: So let Brian Weber see where is this file.
Samuel Dietzel: That's Christine's.
Michael Wilmot: This is Christine.
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Michael Wilmot: That's
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Samuel Dietzel: In modified.
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Michael Wilmot: Okay,
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Michael Wilmot: okay? The project may be the the project aim, okay. At the end of the day, the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro. Okay, and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side. Okay, that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market. Okay. Then uh you can come back with your feedback. And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion. This remote control, okay, it can be for like universal, to use for any T_V_. Okay, and it will be slim, okay, and uh
Christian Leanos: Not fat?
Michael Wilmot: Not fat.
Christian Leanos: Not fat, huh.
Michael Wilmot: Okay.
Christian Leanos: Might be hard to find, though.
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: Hmm.
Michael Wilmot: But let's try it, okay,
Christian Leanos: Oh,
Michael Wilmot: with
Christian Leanos: okay.
Michael Wilmot: the different uh the designs, okay, the functional designs. Okay? So any other questions?
Brian Weber: Uh from her side, I don't think uh there's too many more questions.
Michael Wilmot: Okay.
Brian Weber: If you can
Michael Wilmot: Thank
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Brian Weber: to
Michael Wilmot: Christine
Brian Weber: the
Michael Wilmot: for uh time being, so then uh Ed, so
Brian Weber: Okay,
Michael Wilmot: can you
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Brian Weber: the
Michael Wilmot: about
Brian Weber: marketing yeah, from the marketing side, just to to give an idea what the management is looking for, I was looking for a a remote control to
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Samuel Dietzel: Brian Weber for one sec.
Brian Weber: I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro with, a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro. For what uh I think from what we're trying to find, we're tr we're looking for, I don't think that price is exactly in the market. Okay?
Michael Wilmot: Mm-hmm.
Brian Weber: I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys, uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five, eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy. Twenty-five Euros, uh that's that's a preson reasonable price. That's a market price right now. Now if we're gonna take a risk,
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: and push this up a bit, make it more expensive, but give them added things that they don't have now,
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: then it w it could possibly sell. Obviously the risk is there. Too expensive, they're not gonna buy. But, I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group, which always spends more money on trendy new things, speech recognition is requested. And we're talking between
Christian Leanos: Speech recognition?.
Brian Weber: seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote.
Michael Wilmot: Mm-hmm.
Brian Weber: Obviously, we can't make a remote into a computer, but maybe simple commands. I dunno, louder, softer, on, off. That might be a possibility, even though it costs more, to be the first on the market to produce this. Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use. So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly. Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time. So maybe one word speech recognition commands, say remote, and there's a beep beep beep, and they can find it through, you know, ten tons of newspapers, magazines, whatever you have at home. But, in the cost that uh the management is looking for, that's not gonna be possible. But if it's trendy, if it's fancy, it's got some colour to it, if it's very easy easy to use, if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control, like I said, louder, softer, change channel, on, off, remote, it goes beep beep, I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on. So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea, with the ideas of the industrial uh design. But, price obviously we have to talk about.
Michael Wilmot: Yep. So what do you think about uh the design? Do you think you can make it or uh
Christian Leanos: D uh I'm sorry?
Michael Wilmot: What do you think about uh the design, uh what he was talking about
Brian Weber: Speech recognition.
Michael Wilmot: of the speech recognition?
Christian Leanos: Well, uh training is always an issue with uh commands.
Michael Wilmot: Mm-hmm.
Christian Leanos: So um might uh we can to spend some time in the training process, uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost. Not sure how. But um anyway, um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life. And um so, maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it. So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh, you know, gets
Samuel Dietzel: Hmm.
Christian Leanos: uh, from the light, um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things.
Samuel Dietzel: It seems also like with the speech recognition, yeah, it's a great feature, but if you're watching T_V_, there's a lot of ambient sound, and it's words. It's not just, you know, noises like something hitting. It's actual speech, so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech, and the the user's speech. Otherwise, you can say remote.
Christian Leanos: Off.
Samuel Dietzel: But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing, all of a sudden, you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies, because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_. So, I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems, then yeah, it'd be a really good
Brian Weber: Mm.
Samuel Dietzel: marketing gimmick. But, I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation.
Christian Leanos: Very good point.
Brian Weber: Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Brian Weber: if it's a one-word recognition, 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Brian Weber: seen in the States, a friend of mine says call Mom, and it calls up Mom.
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Brian Weber: 'Kay the radio can be on and everything.
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: Because I think s with speech recognition, if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Brian Weber: it has to hear. I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television. If somebody's speaking on the se the television, they're not gonna stop and say remote, okay.
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Brian Weber: So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word
Samuel Dietzel: Oh yeah. Yeah.
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Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Brian Weber: so well, that's kinda cute.
Michael Wilmot: Well, what I can uh suggest to you, Christine, okay, uh if you need some uh the technical feedback, or some training, okay, about uh this facility, especially for the speech recognition, I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_, okay, because they're already in this uh speech recognition part, okay. And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them, some kind of a technical tie-up. Okay, and uh if okay, and uh you can uh let Brian Weber know, okay, so what kind of uh the details you require okay, to add this feature in this project. I don't think it's uh the difficult. And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop, apart from uh what today.
Christian Leanos: Okay, we'll find that out.
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: From from your side uh, you're gonna have to go back the management and s
Michael Wilmot: Yes.
Brian Weber: be more s precise. What do they
Michael Wilmot: Yes.
Brian Weber: want? Uh, a risk, take a risk on the market? Something that's gonna cost more, but could very easily s
Michael Wilmot: Yes.
Brian Weber: make a boom in the market?
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Brian Weber: Because it has to be something totally different, has to be total totally new. Something that nobody has right now.
Michael Wilmot: Yeah
Brian Weber: And it's
Michael Wilmot: but
Brian Weber: gonna cost.
Michael Wilmot: but end of the day, you're the sales guy, so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection, okay. It's
Brian Weber: Mm-hmm.
Michael Wilmot: uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to
Brian Weber: Sure.
Michael Wilmot: benefit,
Brian Weber: Sure.
Michael Wilmot: okay. And uh, so I don't mind to convince, okay, the management to spend some more money on the project, okay, if you can make out of
Brian Weber: Obviously.
Michael Wilmot: the money from this
Brian Weber: If the
Michael Wilmot: project.
Brian Weber: bottom line is positive.
Michael Wilmot: Yes, okay I don't mind to convince the the management,
Brian Weber: Mm.
Michael Wilmot: okay. The management says, okay, so they they don't want certain facilities, which it's already worked, okay, they want something uh new, okay. I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree, I don't think they'll say no for that, okay. And uh I hope I can convince the management on that, okay. So if you have any uh new ideas, okay, for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell Brian Weber if you need any uh s special, okay, coordination, okay, between any uh technical companies, which you can uh hide their technology backup, okay, for your uh functional design or technical design, okay, then I am ready to do that. And uh what's your comments about uh
Samuel Dietzel: Um well, I mean, maybe if I go through my presentation, you can sort of see
Brian Weber: Mm.
Samuel Dietzel: what the user perspective is, and how it ties into the other two comments.
Michael Wilmot: Yeah, so you are finish, Ed, uh
Brian Weber: Yes.
Michael Wilmot: so I can
Brian Weber: Mm.
Michael Wilmot: uh Okay, I'll uh hand over to Agnes. Just gonna close this. T Uh where are you, here?
Samuel Dietzel: Mm participant three.
Michael Wilmot: Participant three.
Samuel Dietzel: Nope, here
Michael Wilmot: Okay, so I'll yep.
Michael Wilmot: Okay.
Samuel Dietzel: Good. Thanks.
Michael Wilmot: Is it okay? Alri
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah, and that's fine. Okay. So, basically, the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products. So, in our case, existing remote controls. And then, what the good ideas are, and what the bad ideas are, and why they're bad and good, which isn't always as obvious. We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad, but when you look, technically, at how it works, sometimes that's not the case. Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep, 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work. Um and then what the remote control should look like, obviously, once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are. So, in terms of the functionalities that we need, you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off. You need to change channels, both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing. You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever. So, the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls, in general. The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do. Um often, you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done, um which you don't necessarily always remember, especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often. And that the buttons are too small. So, here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side, you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons. The buttons, in a lot of cases, are tiny. Um they're hard to see, and okay, they're labelled, but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much. Whereas, on the other side, you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed. And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it. So, I would be inclined to go sort of towards this, in terms of design, rather than this. And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons, then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons. So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit, or to a minimum, sorry, make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed, so like the on button being really obvious one, the channel changing and the volume, and to keep the design basically sleek
Michael Wilmot: Click
Samuel Dietzel: and simple.
Michael Wilmot: mm.
Samuel Dietzel: Which, I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably. Um so, that's pretty much it, an I don't know if you guys have any questions or
Christian Leanos: Oh, it's um, seems very understandable. Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction,
Samuel Dietzel: Yep.
Christian Leanos: and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it.
Samuel Dietzel: Yes, that's true.
Christian Leanos: So uh,
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: you know, but that's okay. That's why we're all here at the table, so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: w we it's complementary. I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh, when you hold it, is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Christian Leanos: and
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about, th
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: th the look and the feel, and uh,
Samuel Dietzel: Oh,
Christian Leanos: you're First. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I don't have any questions. Sounds good.
Michael Wilmot: So for anybody need uh any help, for time being, on this
Samuel Dietzel: Oh
Michael Wilmot: uh subjects, okay, so please come back to Brian Weber, and uh Christine, maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim, okay, and to add some features, like we are talking about, the speech recognition and all.
Samuel Dietzel: Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to
Michael Wilmot: Yeah.
Samuel Dietzel: include, 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table, but do we actually want to incorporate all of them, or have we missed
Brian Weber: Hmm.
Samuel Dietzel: anything?
Christian Leanos: Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide, maybe that would provide some guidance?
Samuel Dietzel: Sure.
Christian Leanos: Doesn't really tell us.
Michael Wilmot: So not really this
Brian Weber: Individual
Michael Wilmot: one
Brian Weber: actions.
Michael Wilmot: we are talk
Christian Leanos: Well it
Michael Wilmot: ab
Christian Leanos: says individual actions, it says
Michael Wilmot: Yep.
Christian Leanos: user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept, supposed to work on the
Samuel Dietzel: Mm-hmm.
Christian Leanos: user interface concept, and you're supposed to keep watching the trends. Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach. I
Samuel Dietzel: I thought
Christian Leanos: think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process, that's my suggestion.
Michael Wilmot: Okay, that will be great. And uh I'll send you the the minutes
Christian Leanos: You can
Michael Wilmot: of
Christian Leanos: object
Michael Wilmot: meet
Christian Leanos: if you want to
Samuel Dietzel: No, I I'm just thinking in terms of time, like
Brian Weber: She's
Samuel Dietzel: if
Brian Weber: objecting.
Michael Wilmot: Yeah.
Samuel Dietzel: Yes, now I'm objecting. No, I mean, I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away? I mean, it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features, um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use, maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want, but
Brian Weber: Oh th
Christian Leanos: I think we
Samuel Dietzel: guess
Christian Leanos: should take
Brian Weber: we s
Christian Leanos: that as
Brian Weber: we
Christian Leanos: an
Brian Weber: still
Christian Leanos: action
Brian Weber: have
Christian Leanos: item for after the meeting, 'cause w
Brian Weber: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: our meeting time has run
Brian Weber: Right.
Christian Leanos: out. Somebody
Samuel Dietzel: Sure.
Christian Leanos: else has go to use this room, and,
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: you know, we can't hang out here and
Samuel Dietzel: Yeah.
Christian Leanos: talk
Samuel Dietzel: Sure.
Christian Leanos: about this, so
Michael Wilmot: Okay, what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break, okay, then uh we can discuss furthermore, okay, with our areas, and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting. So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting, and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information. Okay?
Samuel Dietzel: Okay.
Michael Wilmot: So let's go for lunch then.
Christian Leanos: Thank
Brian Weber: Agreed.
Christian Leanos: you very
Michael Wilmot: Thank
Christian Leanos: much.
Michael Wilmot: you. | Michael Wilmot gave new requirements for the product: the remote will not include a teletext function, will only be used for television, and must show the corporate image. Christian Leanos presented possible components to consider. The group then discussed hard materials to include in the design. Brian Weber presented an initial sales plan and showed that there is a demand for remotes featuring voice recognition and other capabilities; the group discussed how it could be integrated into the functional design. Michael Wilmot offered to help Christian Leanos find companies to provide help in integrating this component. The designers expressed that they needed more information from the board on their expectations for the product. Samuel Dietzel gave a presentation on product design from the user's perspective and emphasized simplicity in design. She also suggested that the group make a decision on which features to include in the final product design, but the group decided to postpone it. The designers were given their assignments: Brian Weber will present the marketing concept; Samuel Dietzel, the user interface concept; Christian Leanos, the components concept. | 3 | amisum | test |
Joel Blanton: Alright, that did nothing. Okay. Welcome to the meeting everyone. Just gonna attempt to make this into a slide show.
Joel Blanton: Sorry guys.
Errol Pardue: You may have to do the function F_ thing.
Joel Blanton: I did.
Errol Pardue: Oh, okay.
Joel Blanton: Twice. This'll just take a
Mike Schriner: Okay okay
Joel Blanton: moment. Or it won't.
Joel Blanton: Okay we'll have to deal with it like
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: this then. Alright. Um. This is the first meeting uh for developing our, our new product. I'm Heather, I'm your Project Manager.
Mike Schriner: Hello.
Joel Blanton: Okay. So um. So that was the opening. The first thing we'll do is get acquainted with one another. If everyone could go around and explain their role and um, and their name.
Mike Schriner: My name's Poppy. I'm Mike Schriner for this project. Um, I'm going to be responsible for the functional design phase. Also the conceptual design and the detailed design for the final product.
Joel Blanton: Nice to meet you Poppy.
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Kenneth Resh: My name's Tara and the Interface Designer. I will also be responsible for the functional design phase, the conceptual design phase and the detailed design phase of the user interface design.
Joel Blanton: Alright.
Errol Pardue: Hi, I'm Genevieve. I'm Errol Pardue. I'm an expert at marketing. Um, I'll be telling you guys about the user requirement specifications for our new product. Um, I'll be doing some trend-watching in the conceptual design, and product evaluation for the design phase.
Joel Blanton: Alright I'm Heather and I've I said I'm your Project Manager, um Well you can pretty much read what it is that I'm doing. But um um Yeah. And uh tool training is one thing that we're going to be doing today, um um as well as planning the project, how we're going to, uh, create this product, and, um, discuss, um, our aims and objects of this, uh Which brings us to our next subject, is, um, um, as a team we're going to be designing and creating a new kind of remote control. Um, we want this to be a marketable product that can be trendy, um, a completely new style, so that, um, can really appeal to a, to a generation that doesn't want a simple plain kind of, uh, channel-changer. And, um, it needs to be user-friendly for, um, maybe, for an example, for people that, um, can't see the numbers as well, or, um, perhaps an ergonomic design.
Mike Schriner: Okay. So this is a television remote control?
Joel Blanton: Yes,
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: it's a television remote control. Right. I believe I should be taking minutes on this right now. So, alright.
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: Um, yeah. Um, the way that we're going to go about this is, um, we'll have a time where we can, um come up with new ideas alone, and, and work on the project and then, um, after we've brainstormed and, and thought about, we can come together in a meeting and, and discuss what, what um, what kind of functional design we want to use. Same with conceptual design and detailed design. So, um, making sure that it, it's usable, that as a, um and that it's, it's feasible to create, and uh, to come up with a concept of it want, what we want it to look like. Um, tool training. Is, is everyone, um
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: Okay.
Mike Schriner: Got
Errol Pardue: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: those notes.
Errol Pardue: Thank you.
Joel Blanton: Great. Great. Um One thing that, uh, we're going to do is become more acquainted with the, the tools that we have access to for our project. Um, one of them is our whiteboard. And, um, as a sort of team-building moment, um, I, I'd like us to, um, try out the whiteboard by expressing our favourite animal and the charac characteristics of that animal. Um, why that, why that should be your favourite animal. So, um, I, I'm assuming that we should do that now.
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: 'Kay. With our microphones still attached to our bodies.
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Kenneth Resh: Gosh.
Joel Blanton: Okay.
Joel Blanton: 'Kay, what's my favourite animal? Do come up.
Mike Schriner: Oh, to go first. Oh, are we all doing
Joel Blanton: This is
Mike Schriner: it
Joel Blanton: a
Mike Schriner: individually?
Joel Blanton: team-building time where,
Mike Schriner: Okay,
Joel Blanton: um,
Mike Schriner: stand up and support you
Joel Blanton: okay cool, um
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: My favourite animal, which changes all the time, okay, right now it is an elk.
Kenneth Resh: An
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Kenneth Resh: elk?
Joel Blanton: alright,
Kenneth Resh: A vicious
Joel Blanton: so And it goes like Yeah it's got like big antlers, yeah. Looks kinda like, like it has holly growing out of its head.
Mike Schriner: Do you have elk where you come from?
Joel Blanton: Yes.
Mike Schriner: You do.
Joel Blanton: Yeah
Errol Pardue: We have moose too.
Joel Blanton: we have moose
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: and we have deer. Do you have
Kenneth Resh: We have sheep.
Mike Schriner: Sheep. Yeah, cows.
Joel Blanton: 'Kay, um.
Mike Schriner: That's a great elk.
Kenneth Resh: That is really good.
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Kenneth Resh: I'm quite
Joel Blanton: Thanks. This is my
Errol Pardue: Oh, very shapely.
Joel Blanton: Okay.
Mike Schriner: Brilliant.
Joel Blanton: That's a sketching of my my elk, and it, it is my favourite animal right now, 'cause it is a large beautiful majestic creature, that um, that um In a way it looks kind of awkward, because it's on spindly legs and it uh But it can really overcome harsh terrain, and although it's gorgeous it's also very dangerous, because it has um strong antlers, and uh it can really combat its enemies, even like it it's a it's an herbivore but, uh, it can really defend itself.
Mike Schriner: Mm. Very
Joel Blanton: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: nice. Okay.
Joel Blanton: Right.
Joel Blanton: Right, I'm gonna take minutes while, um, you guys
Mike Schriner: Okay,
Joel Blanton: express
Mike Schriner: I'll
Joel Blanton: your
Mike Schriner: go
Joel Blanton: favourite
Mike Schriner: next.
Joel Blanton: animals.
Mike Schriner: I am a big animal lover. I like all sorts of animals, but for the moment I'm gonna draw a cat, in memory of my poor cat that died recently.
Errol Pardue: Oh.
Joel Blanton: Oh.
Mike Schriner: It's gonna be a bit of a strange drawing, but never mind.
Mike Schriner: Not as artistic as Heather's drawing. Bit more cartoon style. But I like cats because they're so independent, and they always seem to be doing what they want to be doing. Um, but that doesn't mean they're completely not sociable, 'cause they enjoy interacting with humans as well, and they seem to enjoy the good things like sunshine and, um, running around outside as well as being inside, and enjoying their food, and generally just, they just seemed so cool and they just know what they're doing. Uh I reckon they're sort of, they got it sorted. They know what they want. Basically, that's why I like cats.
Kenneth Resh: Very
Joel Blanton: Great.
Kenneth Resh: good.
Mike Schriner: I'll rub that out. There you go.
Kenneth Resh: Okay. but I'm not really sure how to draw one.
Mike Schriner: Ooh.
Kenneth Resh: I, I've never drawn a dog, I don't think. I'm tempted to draw a snail 'cause I draw them sometimes and they're really easy to draw. Um,
Joel Blanton: I forget her name.
Kenneth Resh: right it's
Errol Pardue: Tara
Kenneth Resh: gonna be a really funny dog,
Errol Pardue: or Tara.
Kenneth Resh: 'cause I'm not sure how to draw a dog.
Mike Schriner: Well there are loads of different types of dogs, so I'm sure it'll represent one kind of dog.
Kenneth Resh: It's a cartoon dog I think. A s I don't ev Oh, oh well. It's a scary cartoon dog. That This, that does not look like a dog.
Joel Blanton: It
Kenneth Resh: I'm
Mike Schriner: We
Joel Blanton: looks
Mike Schriner: can pretend.
Joel Blanton: kinda like a person.
Kenneth Resh: sorry.
Errol Pardue: That's Pinocchio.
Kenneth Resh: How do you draw a dog? I suppose it has a lon Oh my god. Right. Yous know what it's supposed to be. It's a dog.
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Kenneth Resh: Um, I like dogs because, um, they're so good to humans, like they can be trained to be police dogs and seeing-eye dogs, and they're just such friendly animals. And, like they're more of a companion than cats. I've
Mike Schriner: Yeah,
Kenneth Resh: nothing
Mike Schriner: that's
Kenneth Resh: against
Mike Schriner: true.
Kenneth Resh: cats. Cats don't really like Errol Pardue, so I can't like them. But they're just so friendly and warm and nice animals, that don't look like that.
Errol Pardue: Alrighty. I feel like a robot. Okay. Um, well I guess I had the most time to think about it. I'm going to draw a butterfly, because I saw a butterfly yesterday, that seemed to be like the symbol of Spring arriving. And it was actually the prettiest butterfly I've ever seen out in the wild, and I though that was pretty cool in Scotland. It was like, well it was a little pointier than that. At first I thought it was a dead leaf. And then it landed on the wall next to Errol Pardue. But this part was all brown and then it has these big blue dots like this. And then it kinda there was a green, I think it was a green ring, and there was like red going out like this.
Joel Blanton: It's kinda like a peacock.
Errol Pardue: Yeah, it kinda was actually, 'cause it was This part of the body was really dull, and then it was the most colourful exotic butterfly ever, and I'm like, wow this is the middle of Scotland in like March. So I thought that was pretty cool. And it landed by a wall and let Errol Pardue look at it for about two minutes. I wish I'd had my camera. So that's gonna be my favourite animal because after all the snow it seemed to say that like Spring is finally here. Yeah. There you
Mike Schriner: Very
Errol Pardue: go.
Mike Schriner: nice.
Joel Blanton: Great.
Errol Pardue: Uh, what do we Oh.
Joel Blanton: Do you hear the eraser buzzing while you do that?
Errol Pardue: Yes I do.
Joel Blanton: Yea Right. So, now that we know how to use the whiteboard,
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: um, the next, um, thing we need to address is our financial department, to meet our our budget, um or not meet our budget but more, um, like what kind of, uh, selling range we'll be looking at, um, wanna make this um selling price of twenty five Euros. have to, um, come up with a way to, to create a, a uh remote control, where um we can like the price to create it will be significantly less. Um, we'd like to, um to, uh, make fifty million Euro. I'm assuming that's what the M_ means. Um, and make it for an international market. Um, one thing we'd have to think about internationally is in the design of, um, like different kinds of, uh, V_C_R_s. Things like that, depending on which country you are. Another thing for the design team to think about. Um, we want it to cost, uh, absolute maximum of twelve Euro and fifty cents.
Errol Pardue: Okay, so we'll have a hundred percent profit then? Twelve fifty.
Joel Blanton: I'm bad at math.
Errol Pardue: Okay.
Joel Blanton: 'Kay. Um, so now that, um, that is underway, um it is discussion time. So this is time for us to bring our initial ideas, any um suggestions that you may have so far, a um your personal experiences with remote controls, and um, um, areas you see that, uh, could be improved in your experience with them. Does anyone have any initial thoughts?
Errol Pardue: I find that in the dark it's often hard to know what button you're pushing.
Joel Blanton: Mm-hmm. So what's something we could, uh, do to remedy that?
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Errol Pardue: Um
Mike Schriner: I always find that in our house the remote control always goes missing. It's always, where
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: is the remote control? So maybe if you could have some kind of tracking device for the remote control or some signal that you could find out where it was. I dunno, some kind of alarm. You can press a button on your wall,
Joel Blanton: Yeah. It's a great
Mike Schriner: signal,
Joel Blanton: idea. It's a great
Mike Schriner: 'cause
Joel Blanton: idea.
Mike Schriner: it always gets lost.
Kenneth Resh: Do yous not find that, um, like, there's a lot of, um, buttons on your remote control,
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Kenneth Resh: and
Errol Pardue: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Resh: you don't know what
Mike Schriner: Yeah,
Kenneth Resh: half
Mike Schriner: that
Kenneth Resh: of
Mike Schriner: you don't
Kenneth Resh: them
Mike Schriner: use
Kenneth Resh: do.
Mike Schriner: half
Kenneth Resh: Yeah,
Mike Schriner: of them.
Kenneth Resh: I don't know what they
Errol Pardue: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Resh: do.
Errol Pardue: There's some remote controls where there's kind of a hidden panel, so all those buttons that you don't really use
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Errol Pardue: unless you're
Mike Schriner: Yeah,
Errol Pardue: programming
Mike Schriner: that's,
Errol Pardue: or something.
Mike Schriner: that's
Errol Pardue: That's useful.
Mike Schriner: Yeah, it is.
Errol Pardue: So
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Errol Pardue: you just have like the number buttons, power button, T_V_
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Errol Pardue: video button.
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: Alright. Anything about, um, the look of the, uh, remote control that you might have ideas about. Maybe it could be, instead of like a standard rectangular shape, it could be, um, something more interesting like Any ideas will do that you have at this point.
Errol Pardue: Could
Mike Schriner: Mm.
Errol Pardue: be shaped like a conch, you know. Be like a shell-shaped remote.
Joel Blanton: Can
Mike Schriner: A
Joel Blanton: hold
Mike Schriner: novelty.
Joel Blanton: it.
Mike Schriner: Are we going
Joel Blanton: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: into kind of novelty factors here. Like, I've seen
Joel Blanton: Well if it's
Mike Schriner: phones
Joel Blanton: a trendy
Mike Schriner: like a
Joel Blanton: original,
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: um, aspect we're going for. I mean, you're the designers, you c,
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: you can um decide what kind of,
Mike Schriner: Mm-hmm.
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: um, direction you wanna go in, but at this point in the, in the first meeting it can
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: be any ideas that we just throw out there.
Mike Schriner: I suppose, if we're he heading to have it, like make a huge profit out of this, it needs to be quite a universally accepted thing. Like, a novelty
Kenneth Resh: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: thing might only sell a few things rather than, like, a general kind of more acceptable But
Joel Blanton: Mm-hmm.
Mike Schriner: we don't wanna go towards boring, 'cause that wouldn't sell either. So,
Joel Blanton: Yeah.
Mike Schriner: hmm.
Joel Blanton: And the key issue here is, is being trendy and original.
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: Um, that does not necessarily mean it needs to be outrageous.
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: Right. Okay we have five minutes left. So, just to cover We have one more thing. Um, like you can go over your ideas, of course, in your own personal times.
Mike Schriner: Yeah.
Joel Blanton: Um, our next meeting will be in half an hour. So you have half an hour to, uh, think about what you want to present. Or not present but bring to the meeting. Um, I_D_, whatever that stands for.
Errol Pardue: Interface?
Mike Schriner: Industrial Designer.
Joel Blanton: Industrial
Errol Pardue: Oh,
Mike Schriner: That's
Errol Pardue: industrial.
Mike Schriner: Errol Pardue.
Joel Blanton: Designer. I have to remember these things. Um. You'll be beginning your, your working design.
Mike Schriner: Mm-hmm.
Joel Blanton: Um, U_I_D_ the technical functions design will, will be worked on the next thirty minutes. Um, maybe how this can be achieved, and, um, we need the user requirements from the manag
Errol Pardue: Marketing
Joel Blanton: Marketing
Errol Pardue: Expert.
Joel Blanton: Expert. Um, you will get specific instructions, um, of what to do in the next half an hour. And I'll see you in half an hour, okay?
Mike Schriner: Okay.
Joel Blanton: 'Kay.
Mike Schriner: Thank you. | Joel Blanton opens the meeting by introducing herself and asking everyone to say their name and role in the group. She then states the agenda of the meeting and tells them that they will be designing and creating a new remote control that should be trendy and user-friendly. The meetings will focus on functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Next, each group member draws their favorite animal on the whiteboard and explains the characteristics of that animal. After that Joel Blanton covers the project budget, and then they begin discussing their personal experiences with remote controls and how they want their remote to look. Then Joel Blanton closes the meeting by telling each group member what to do in preparation for the next meeting. | 3 | amisum | test |
Aurelio Thompson: Oh.
Earl Willis: Du
Aurelio Thompson: Okay. Thanks
Robert Lytle: Hm.
Aurelio Thompson: for coming to this meeting. S how we doing on our remote? We have some we have some ideas and some uh ideas for what people want.
Earl Willis: Uh we yes s I've lo I've the role that I was asked to anyway.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Earl Willis: I think.
Aurelio Thompson: Alright let's just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting. See if I can't get things uh moving along here a little bit better. Um I'll go over what we went over last time, which shouldn't take long. Then I believe each of you have a presentation. Um I've was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote, what they want. Um then we can come to a conclusion on uh what we want the remote to do, um and how it's going to do it hopefully. And uh then we'll have the closing. Um which we'll have forty minutes for. Uh let's see, the last meeting we went over um who was responsible for what. I'm responsible for leading the meetings, keeping the notes, uh and coming up with the final presentation. Um Corinne is our Marketing Expert. She's gonna figure out what what um the consumer wants. Um Ryan is our User Interface Designer. And Manuel is Robert Berti. So you're gonna come up with the ideas Ryan, and you're gonna pick 'em apart. Um we decided our remote, uh we want it to be a universal remote uh that everyone would want. Um we want to be modern, um fun, different. Uh it needs to be sturdy, um easy to find, so we gonna have that locator function. Um and we want to be different. Um and then we went over a couple of different ideas. Ball-shaped phone. The keyboard shape. Um we decided that it should probably be one-handed. Something we could use with one hand. Um and that was our last meeting. So um why don't um Do each of you have a presentation?
Robert Lytle: Yep.
Aurelio Thompson: Okay. I'll hand it off to you and um Does anyone do you wanna go first?
Robert Lytle: Sure.
Aurelio Thompson: So we can maybe see what uh what the people want.
Robert Lytle: What was? Function
Robert Berti: Eight.
Robert Lytle: F_
Robert Berti: F_ eight.
Robert Lytle: eight?
Robert Lytle: Well. How do I get it
Earl Willis: Slide show.
Aurelio Thompson: To go to the
Robert Lytle: Oh
Aurelio Thompson: next
Robert Lytle: right
Aurelio Thompson: one?
Robert Lytle: right right.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah you click on that
Robert Lytle: That
Aurelio Thompson: guy.
Robert Lytle: one?
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Robert Lytle: Okay. Alright. Well, this is my report, which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that I was sent. Oh gosh, I've no idea. G
Earl Willis: Just press the arrow keys I think. Usually
Robert Lytle: Okay.
Earl Willis: goes to it.
Robert Lytle: Sorry I actually need to see something else on my screen.
Aurelio Thompson: Hit F_ eight again.
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: I think.
Robert Lytle: And then? Again?
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah. You want it to be on both screens, or
Robert Lytle: No
Aurelio Thompson: just
Robert Lytle: I want
Aurelio Thompson: just
Robert Lytle: something
Aurelio Thompson: yours?
Robert Lytle: else on mine. Is that possible?
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah but I think you have to hit escape. And then you can Yeah.
Robert Lytle: Okay but now you don't have that.
Aurelio Thompson: Oh hit F_ eight again.
Robert Lytle: Sorry guys.
Aurelio Thompson: I know. I did the same thing. And then it should come up here shortly. 'Kay.
Robert Lytle: So is there no way I can give you the slideshow
Aurelio Thompson: I think
Robert Lytle: and
Aurelio Thompson: oh give us the slideshow and
Robert Lytle: yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: something on your screen?
Robert Lytle: Yeah. Oh
Aurelio Thompson: Mm.
Robert Lytle: well.
Aurelio Thompson: I'm not sure. You could maybe minimise that screen and then
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: have them both up at the same
Robert Lytle: It's
Aurelio Thompson: time
Robert Lytle: okay.
Aurelio Thompson: I think.
Robert Lytle: Okay. Um so first of all, the method that I used was by doing some marketing research, by um doing research on some interviews that were conducted. And then some internet research. And I was sent a report that was I think there were a hundred remote users that they interviewed. And so I will show you some of the results from that, which I think will be helpful. Um okay here are some of the findings. They said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls. And seventy five percent of the users find their remote controls to be ugly. Which is a fairly significant number I would say. And eighty percent of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy. So I think that earlier we were onto something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look, I think that's definitely important. Um they say that current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot. And if anyone could clarify what that means? Zap,
Earl Willis: Is
Robert Lytle: does
Earl Willis: is it
Robert Lytle: that
Earl Willis: j
Robert Lytle: just mean
Robert Berti: Just
Robert Lytle: like changing
Earl Willis: just
Robert Lytle: the
Earl Willis: just
Robert Lytle: channel?
Earl Willis: just using
Robert Berti: jus
Earl Willis: it yeah.
Robert Lytle: Okay.
Robert Berti: yeah.
Robert Lytle: Um and fifty percent of the users say that they're only using ten percent of the buttons on their remote control. And there was something else, they kept track of the frequency per hour in using certain buttons. And some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all. Of course channel selection is used the most frequently. And then teletext was the next. Volume and then power. And then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used. So I think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button. Um the biggest user frustrations, as we said fifty percent of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere, and so I think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea. They said it take thirty four percent said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. And twenty six percent said that the controls are bad for R_S_I_.
Earl Willis: A repetitive strain injury.
Robert Lytle: What is it?
Earl Willis: Just repetitive strain injury. I think.
Robert Lytle: Okay.
Earl Willis: That's what I guess.
Robert Lytle: Okay. And so bas okay. Um as far as speech recognition goes, um the younger group looks like they're all for it. From the fifteen to twenty five age group over ninety percent said they would pay more. And it kind of just went down incrementally. The groups at the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay, so maybe we could discuss this and think and decide if we think it's worth investing in this. At least if we're targeting the younger groups. And so in conclusion. Some things that I drew from this are that I think we were correct. We definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance, since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of their remote control. Um a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore. So you only have one rather than five different remotes sitting all over your room. Uh we need to simplify the remote and reduce the number of buttons, get rid of the ones that don't seem to be serving much purpose. And then lastly I thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition. And that's it.
Aurelio Thompson: 'Kay. Very nice. Now we actually have some ideas of what what people want, what we should focus on. Uh
Aurelio Thompson: Wait can I look at that real quick?
Robert Lytle: Oh yeah. Sorry did you guys get time to write everything
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Lytle: that you needed? 'Kay.
Earl Willis: Having just listened to what Corinne just said, I'll draw on some of the things well. Some things that sort of what I wanna say. 'Kay so I'm just gonna yeah approach the technical functions design. Um the method I used was to explore the uh technical functions of a remote control. And t s simplest approach that I came to is is to change, programme and operate an electronic device remotely. I mean that's an obvious thing to say, but it's not attached to the device that you want to control. Um I had some things sent to Robert Lytle. Not very much. To look at similar devices. Um defined in some them. And then the personal preferences that I will suggest. Um we discussed a universal one. Um like it's just been brought up again then. But I think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design, and po possibly within maybe the budget that we do it, um because you'd need to know all the spef specifications of a all the like electronic companies. I'm not sure have you ever come across a universal remote control yourself, but you have to i they're a nightmare to use. You have to set them, reset them to everything. Um and that would only add buttons. Whereas I think the aim is to take away buttons. So I think it'd be better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for T_V_s. Um or maybe just one that you could we could design and then different people, manufacturers could use it to set to their specifications, if if the aim is to get something that's unique in design. Um Okay here here's just two pictures of remote controls. They're just simple T_V_ remote controls. But one is uh user-centred. That is the one on the left. And you can straight away see there's less buttons. And the other one is engineer-centred where that's more uh specified for the sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it's trying to control um which appeals more to the product that we want, and on what the have said and the market research and stuff probably looking at something that should be user-centred. Fewer buttons, simpler to use, and if ten percent um is hidden away if ten percent is what's used, maybe the other fifty percent, the buttons that are used very rarely like programming, they could be hidden maybe under some remote controls you might have come across have maybe a little flip thi thing where they're hidden away. And the main buttons are the ones you or the ones you come across. Um and finally, um uh sort I've sort of covered that, our product I think should be user interface orientated. Um Like I said to concentrate on T_V_ remote control, a universal remote might be too complex. Um and as what it, the major findings market researchers have said, it's the image and the appearance that people di dislike. So that we should concentrate on something that would set a trend. And then and change the fashion of remote controls. And that's it.
Robert Berti: cable there. Thank you.
Aurelio Thompson: What was your last conclusion on that one? Focus on uh
Earl Willis: On
Aurelio Thompson: the i
Earl Willis: something on the image of it.
Aurelio Thompson: the image
Earl Willis: Uh
Aurelio Thompson: of it.
Earl Willis: the f the actual design.
Aurelio Thompson: 'Kay. Good. Good.
Robert Berti: Okay. Gonna talk to you about the working design of the interiors basically which is what dictates the design the both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there. Right. So unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for Robert Lytle obviously were too drunk to actually accomplish it, so um I'm going to do a the stuff on the board. Um just This is the basic basic premise of a remote control. Um the basic function is to send messages to another system. Okay so much is clear. An energy source feeds an integrated circuit, like a chip, that can compose messages. Often in the form of infrared bits. This is the most mostly used. Um there's uh also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system. Um parts are cheaper as well. A user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages. This is where my people screwed up basically. So I'm going to explain that on the board rather. Um what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there. We'll start with an energy source. Right. Um which is usually a battery right? Since it's not feasible to add a cable to that. This energy source of course is connected to the the user interface itself. Uh which can be buttons, whatever, which in fact controls a chip. Right? This is the user interface and there we have the chip. Um the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp. That sends out the signal. Of course the signal differs accordingly. Um depending on what the chip tells the infrared lan lamp. And Of course that's controlled, the chip itself is controlled by the user interface. The way you normally normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well, so that you know that it's working basically. You press something, you get a response. Which is also comparatively um important on one of those devices. Now this, what we're talking about here, or what I think should be discussed are these two components mostly. The the uh energy source for one thing can be altered. What we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared, the sending device basically, the infrared lamp. We cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp. Right? These two are components that we have to use, and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing. Um the lamp can be put onto the desi the device. It c it doesn't have to be there. This can be discussed as well. The user interface. That's something we can also discuss. Um as we've heard uh speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment. Speech recognition um interface, we don't know that. Or if we just do the usual button thing. Or we have a touch pad or something like that that's something we can discuss. And of course the energy source. Batteries. Solar cells. Who knows? Of course it's always a question whether these these components are in fact available cheap enough, developed enough. But that's like I s I suppose rather up to marketing, and not to
Aurelio Thompson: So we could
Robert Berti: to the industrial design
Aurelio Thompson: the the
Robert Berti: department.
Aurelio Thompson: the more complex we make it of course, the more
Robert Berti: Expensive
Aurelio Thompson: expensive
Robert Berti: it's gonna be get uh. Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: But people have said that they would well younger generations of people have said that they would pay more for a speech recognition
Robert Lytle: Mm-hmm.
Aurelio Thompson: remote. So
Robert Berti: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: possibly it might be worth the investment.
Earl Willis: I think speech recognition was uh one of those things where um they have to be really good for them to work. 'Cause sometimes you find yourself just saying things over and o
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Earl Willis: if it's on your phone.
Aurelio Thompson: I agree.
Earl Willis: And
Aurelio Thompson: Well
Earl Willis: you need to sort of take into light languages and then different dialects I suppose as well.
Aurelio Thompson: I myself I find, when you, h when there's something like spee speech recognition. Like uh you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something. Sometimes they have a a speech recognition
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: on the other end, and you say one for this, and you find yours, like you said, saying the same thing over and over and over. I find myself, especially if I'm in a crowd of people, looking really silly.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: So maybe if you're sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then
Earl Willis: And
Aurelio Thompson: you
Earl Willis: wou
Aurelio Thompson: know,
Earl Willis: I
Aurelio Thompson: you
Earl Willis: don't know if would would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff. If you were watching something would you sort of be wanting
Aurelio Thompson: Volume up. Volume
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: down. Change the channel, you know channel up, channel down? I I don't know.
Robert Lytle: Another thing about these figures is ninety one percent of the youngest age groups said they'd do it, but probably a lot of them that's actually their parents money. Like I don't know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves,
Earl Willis: I think
Robert Lytle: a fifteen year old you know.
Earl Willis: As well it'd be j the gimmick factor
Aurelio Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Earl Willis: for the younger people. But practically I don't
Aurelio Thompson: It's
Earl Willis: think it's
Aurelio Thompson: a, it's a gimmick factor that they like at first, and
Earl Willis: Yeah. It'll wear off.
Robert Lytle: Gets old yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Okay. Um Let's see here.
Earl Willis: Do you wanna put your cord back in?
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah I guess so.
Robert Berti: Oh right.
Aurelio Thompson: Trade you.
Robert Berti: go.
Aurelio Thompson: Now I was sent a couple of things to modify our uh new requirements. Um the remote's only gonna be for the television, which is good because we already decided y your your research showed that uh not only is a universal remote more complicated, it's more cost, more costly. And your re uh research showed that you know most of the people don't even use it. I think
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Aurelio Thompson: uh you said fifty percent of the people only use half the or ten percent of the buttons. So if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem. Um no teletext. Um So we don't have to worry about that. Um but we do have to use the the company wants us to incorporate the corporate colour and our slogan, which is we put the fashion in electronics. And our corporate colours are grey and yellow. And we could probably get away with black too but So those are the three um the three new requirements we need to use. Um from all all three of your uh presentations, I think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting. Um We want something that looks good. Um we want something that's simple. We want something that you can find easily. Um And the speech recognition I I guess is kind of uh give or take. It's gonna cost more. S
Robert Berti: Mm-hmm.
Aurelio Thompson: the young the younger people say that they like it. But um it's probably, I would say, probably not worth the investment at this point in time. So maybe we should just do away with speech recognition. Um And that way we can focus on our form.
Earl Willis: I did have have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing. Is that if it came with maybe a holder or holster, whatever you wanna call it. Um that you you should put it back in. Your remote. But if you don't put it back in, you press something like a little button on that, and that just sort of sends out a beep to find where it is or something. Just by infrared. That shouldn't be too complex I would've thought.
Aurelio Thompson: That'd be, that'd be good if we were going with our our ball.
Earl Willis: Yeah it would be quite good. The ball
Aurelio Thompson: Or or
Earl Willis: could sit
Aurelio Thompson: with
Earl Willis: on a
Aurelio Thompson: you know I guess
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Aurelio Thompson: with any form that that would be good. You know that could be the charger. For
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote. And that would be or solar. Or you know However, however you wanted to go about it, the holder could also be the charging unit.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um With the locator button. Um and if it were the ball you'd no longer have to have a flat space on it.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um
Robert Berti: Well you still
Aurelio Thompson: like
Robert Berti: do.
Aurelio Thompson: if we still have the
Robert Berti: You s you still
Aurelio Thompson: how to hold on to it and
Robert Berti: W yeah. You put it on t on the couch table. While you're watching,
Robert Lytle: Rolls
Robert Berti: it's
Aurelio Thompson: It's
Robert Berti: gonna
Robert Lytle: away
Aurelio Thompson: gonna
Robert Berti: roll
Aurelio Thompson: roll
Robert Berti: off.
Aurelio Thompson: away.
Robert Lytle: yeah.
Robert Berti: So that's not an issue really.
Aurelio Thompson: Um So I guess after the meeting we'll have some questionnaires. And uh and some summaries for for what's going on. Um then we'll take lunch. Then we can come back and uh work on our individual work. Um I'll do the minutes. Uh let's see. It looks like you're already on your way for uh working with the components. Um chips, the what chips we need and what uh you know how to power it and whatnot. User interface concept, we want it to be something simple.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um Minimal number of buttons. I guess our, I guess our main um main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look, you know.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Berti: Right. That's
Aurelio Thompson: Did you have time earlier to to work on that. Did you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get
Robert Lytle: Not
Aurelio Thompson: everything
Robert Lytle: really.
Aurelio Thompson: done that you need to get done?
Earl Willis: I'll yeah I'll have a look, try look at the actual appearance in the next break.
Aurelio Thompson: 'Kay.
Earl Willis: I th I I do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one-handed. The ball
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Earl Willis: is probably not a good idea.
Aurelio Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Earl Willis: So that I think it still has to be a variation. On maybe a a rect on a rectangle but maybe not necessarily as boring, as
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Earl Willis: plain as a rectangle.
Aurelio Thompson: Um Shall we maybe shoot for a a specific uh target group? That way we could l I mean if it were, if we were shooting for young guys then it's um a certain look to the remote. Or girls or older people? Um Would that you think that would help us find um a specific form? That we would would wanna pick out?
Earl Willis: D I don't know if that might cope with like the trend-watching.
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Earl Willis: I find anything more on that.
Robert Lytle: Yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we'll have some info on that.
Aurelio Thompson: 'Kay.
Aurelio Thompson: So um we know that the remote's gonna have to be we'll just say we've got a colour scheme for it.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um yellow and you know yellow it's nice and bright, with the
Robert Berti: Mm.
Aurelio Thompson: buttons being grey or black. And our slogan pasted somewhere on it, on the the bottom
Earl Willis: Bottom perhaps
Aurelio Thompson: or the
Earl Willis: yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: you know. Um
Aurelio Thompson: Maybe we could sketch a so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort. You know. Um maybe we could flare it or something. You know. So it's more of course this will look like a bone then. go ahead and erase this. Um
Aurelio Thompson: Hope everyone memorised that uh
Earl Willis: You I mean it might be to look at sort of the the shape and trend of like things like mobile phones, and the shapes that the they've been going.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Earl Willis: They've gone from big brick block things, which is a remote control is, to sort of slinky small things.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah everybody's got a mobile phone right? Except for Robert Lytle now. Uh But they are all, you know, mobile phones um they've kind of taken a turn to where they're really small.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um which may defeat our purpose for
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Aurelio Thompson: being able to locate our remote all the time.
Robert Berti: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: But then again you don't want you know like the first mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in. Um So we've got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we're what we're stuck with. Um Maybe we could go with a square or something. Um
Robert Berti: Hm.
Aurelio Thompson: Um you know with minimal number of buttons. I guess you've got you know one through nine. For typing in your channels. Uh you've got volume, up and down. Channel up and down.
Robert Lytle: Power.
Aurelio Thompson: Power. Usually at the top. Um a mute.
Robert Berti: That's the classical
Aurelio Thompson: That's
Robert Berti: design.
Aurelio Thompson: that's pretty much all you need I think. Um A menu button, maybe.
Robert Berti: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: So you know. If you, if we want the remote to do other things like um or I guess the T_V_ to be able to change the tint and the colour and you know all those kind of things that are built into T_V_s, we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in, press the menu button, scroll up and down to select it.
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Robert Berti: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um
Robert Berti: Talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not not too bad.
Aurelio Thompson: 'Kay so
Robert Berti: It's Talk
Aurelio Thompson: Um
Robert Berti: about maybe f look at that from the side, there maybe. Which is technically the easiest option. Would probably be like a scrolling, little scrolling wheel like this.
Aurelio Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berti: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Like a wheel
Robert Berti: So.
Aurelio Thompson: on your mouse.
Robert Berti: Yeah, sort of like that.
Aurelio Thompson: Sort of.
Robert Berti: You can even if we're coming from mice, we can even add a click function, where you, in order to verify the information you just press it down. Right.
Aurelio Thompson: 'S a good idea.
Robert Berti: Also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing, if you wanna make it square for the looks of it, then maybe to make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing, you add a little bulge down here. Just which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the the batteries and so on.
Aurelio Thompson: Mm-hmm.
Robert Berti: I know. You know what
Aurelio Thompson: Look
Robert Berti: I'm getting
Aurelio Thompson: g
Robert Berti: at here,
Aurelio Thompson: yeah.
Robert Berti: fel
Robert Lytle: Mm-hmm.
Aurelio Thompson: Looks
Robert Berti: look
Aurelio Thompson: good.
Robert Berti: at it from the side. It's like that. Right. Uh Then you hold it in your hand like this. And
Earl Willis: Yes
Robert Berti: maybe you bring the buttons
Earl Willis: s
Robert Berti: nearer to the or the imp more important buttons nearer to the
Aurelio Thompson: To the
Robert Berti: to
Aurelio Thompson: thumb.
Robert Berti: the side.
Earl Willis: To
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Earl Willis: the thumb
Robert Berti: Right.
Earl Willis: yeah.
Robert Berti: Mm.
Earl Willis: Maybe the buttons could like uh decrease in s the bigger ones you know they could actually be bigger in size than the ones that are less important, the smaller here.
Robert Berti: Right. You can also have it, maybe, talking about mobile phones again, sliding open.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Berti: functions
Earl Willis: Behind.
Robert Berti: on this part, and
Earl Willis: Definitely.
Robert Berti: then it slides into that part. And out.
Earl Willis: just like o on a sort of side view. Something that you know it would sort of fit in the hand better. So you know you just sort of have your hand
Robert Berti: Mm well I was just thinking, this
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Berti: this of course
Earl Willis: Right on
Robert Berti: causes
Earl Willis: the and your thumb would be up here type thing.
Robert Berti: causes a problem um for left or right-handed people actually.
Earl Willis: Yeah that's also true.
Robert Berti: So.
Earl Willis: instantly sort of always going for the right-handed person.
Robert Berti: Right.
Earl Willis: But I mean the older so
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah is everyone who in here's right-handed, left-handed?
Robert Lytle: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: You guys
Robert Berti: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: all right-handed?
Earl Willis: Right-handed, yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah. So I'm left-handed but
Robert Lytle: Uh-huh.
Aurelio Thompson: I, so I can say that most things are designed for right-handed people.
Robert Berti: That's right.
Aurelio Thompson: Like the written language. Or English.
Robert Lytle: Maybe you could buy like a special left-handed version of the remote.
Aurelio Thompson: Maybe. Ow.
Robert Lytle: Special order.
Aurelio Thompson: I would say I mean it should be probably designed for a right-handed p person.
Robert Lytle: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: Um but that's that's good. That's w I think we've got a kind of a good plan there. Um At least for what buttons we're gonna use. Um So we've got uh I like the scroll, the scroll action and the.
Earl Willis: I mean I'm just just thinking maybe if it was um circular um with the sort of that sort of the sort of early idea we had, with the way that was more like that, whereas this is just a one-handed thing that you sort of almost wrap round the thumb. So you'd have your, you'd put your hand into there with the thumb there. And then your thumb would do you'd have all the buttons sort of round here. And that I think could work.
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Earl Willis: On any hand.
Aurelio Thompson: Kinda like holding a
Earl Willis: If you just had it like wrapped round there. Left or right.
Robert Lytle: Mm.
Robert Berti: Right. That minimises it size-wise
Earl Willis: Minimise
Robert Berti: as well.
Earl Willis: its size. It could be you know really quite
Robert Berti: Mm.
Earl Willis: small.
Robert Berti: Then there's maybe another point of making it a two-in-one kind of thing. If we have a smaller a smaller device that actually fits into the big one. You give it the full functions in here, and just a couple of functions in there.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Lytle: Hmm.
Robert Berti: Like your zap zapping
Earl Willis: Zapping
Robert Berti: device
Earl Willis: functions.
Robert Berti: is just u channels up-down, uh volume, and on-off. That's it.
Robert Lytle: Could
Aurelio Thompson: Yeah.
Robert Lytle: be good.
Robert Berti: Maybe.
Aurelio Thompson: So two remotes in one. But then would be easier to lose one or the other.
Robert Berti: That's right. Means the big one has to be sufficiently big. And perhaps heavy, so you can't move it around. Make it a piece of furniture.
Robert Lytle: Yeah,
Aurelio Thompson: It actually is your coffee table.
Robert Berti: yes.
Robert Lytle: yeah.
Robert Berti: Yes, there you go. Or a statue or something.
Aurelio Thompson: Okay. Well we need to finish up here. Um So for the next So for the next um before the next meeting w uh sh shall we work on you're watching trends
Robert Lytle: Mm-hmm.
Aurelio Thompson: to see what
Earl Willis: Yep.
Aurelio Thompson: what kind of new information we've got going on. Um Manuel you're going to work on the components
Robert Berti: Right.
Aurelio Thompson: for for what we're gonna use. Let's go with our our uh rounded kind of fit in your hand let's explore uh the the uh possibility of having the two-piece. So one for the
Robert Berti: Alright.
Aurelio Thompson: the quick zapping um and possibly one you know with just that rounded part
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: that fits into your hand. Um And Ryan you work on um how how well they'll work
Earl Willis: How
Aurelio Thompson: with
Earl Willis: well it'll
Aurelio Thompson: the us
Earl Willis: work yeah.
Aurelio Thompson: with the user. So both of those concepts. And uh okay I think we made some good progress here.
Robert Berti: Alright.
Aurelio Thompson: see you in I dunno. I gu I guess we'll take lunch in about uh half an hour. Or I guess we'll be taking lunch shortly and then then in about half an hour after that we'll probably have another meeting.
Earl Willis: Yeah.
Robert Berti: Alright.
Aurelio Thompson: Okay. | Aurelio Thompson recapped the events and decisions of the previous meeting. Robert Lytle presented research on user preferences and tendencies with remote controls. The research indicated that users want remotes to be more attractive, to match the behavior of the user, to be easier to locate when misplaced, and not to cause RSI. The research also indicated that younger users were interested speech recognition. Earl Willis spoke on the option to have a universal remote, presented two differently designed remotes available on the market, and described some features a user-centered remote should include. Robert Berti discussed the interior workings of a remote and then the team discussed the option to include speech recognition in their design. Aurelio Thompson briefed the team on some new requirements to abide by. The team then discussed the option to include a recharger with a locater button in their design, the appearance of their remote, buttons, how to make an ergonomic remote, and the option to have a two-piece remote. | 3 | amisum | test |
: Okay. And don't forget the Oh yeah. Um, so hi everyone. Thanks for coming to this meeting. Um well as you all know the topic of this morning's meeting is uh the fact that we're moving and we are going to get more space. So that's a very good piece of news. Uh but we also have to find out how we use this space. So um if you want, I'll just give a brief overview of what's happening and then we can uh talk about, well, arranging these new uh the new office space So. um in case you haven't seen the the documents uh let Rudolph Mojica just uh show you very briefly the the configuration of the the space. So um well, there is nothing much to say. Well you know how many of us are are present and you know that we are um a bit tight actually in our present location. Uh that's why actually the university finally um allocated us this uh this part of uh the Unimail building. So it's at the sixth floor. And it's uh sort of contiguous rooms as you you can all see from uh from here. Um so the the the one P_, two P_, three P_ means the the number of persons. As you can see we have several corridor um with a number of uh of uh of rooms, of one person rooms, two person room and and three person rooms. Um actually I think Agnes did this nice drawing so she even put the the view, so we have the old town on one side, and the mountains on the other two sides. Uh we have some bathrooms for us. Uh and a courtyard which actually means a sort of uh shaft, because uh the court is uh down at uh the first floor. Andre, just, yeah just a a clarification question, are they number of people per room indicated strict, or can we play around with? I mean if there are two people, is it really that you can't put three or uh two and a half or uh how how was it Well, calculated? it's a bit difficult to say, because um in fact we have some constraints in terms of furniture. Uh they are here. 'Kay. So um well, your your person Your your question actually is answered maybe by the third item. So each person should get um, well, it's a sort of desk, it's made of two pieces and it looks like a corner. With, of course, a chair. Uh a filing cabinet that goes under the desk uh and, well, we can put hanging shelves over the the desks. So I'm not really sure it's possible to get three um three desks in a two person office. But um we could Mm-hmm. try. What's What should be said here, I don't know if, well, you I I will maybe distribute now documents if you don't have them. Maybe it's easier. Do you need something, Martin? I Um, have everything. I can keep this for Okay, you. so Uh so it's I have it's a copy Yeah, Yeah. you have a copy, Susan. You too David, I think. Mm-hmm. So in fact there are more places than people, so we won't be that constrained. Uh as you know some of us and some of you here actually, Martin and David are part-time. So it it's for the moment quite comfortable. Normally we should even get an extra uh an extra place for, you know, temporary people coming to work on Are uh you sure on of that? projects. Uh yeah, I uh yeah, I counted so we have um fifteen pers physical persons Mm-hmm. and about uh sixteen, I think, uh persons oh, actually, Two eighteen persons in the offices. Six seven eight Yeah, nine but counting ten the eleven rea twelve the thirteen the fourteen reading room. fifteen Exactly, sixteen it so seventeen one eighteen. of the issues uh here, it's probably not on the slides, is that we would like to have uh, unlike what had until now, a lounge or reading room Mm-hmm. uh in one of the the offices. So in one of the rooms. Do we really need that? Um, I think quite a lot of people e expressed the need for that. So if we could do it, then I think it would be much nicer. Um let Rudolph Mojica also uh st say something forget Yep. time we spend to for discussions about that room, so you should be able to valorize this if Okay. possible. Yeah, I I But think I still so. agree with you that the b the we are not so we are not so large, as far as space is Yeah. concerned. Uh because fifteen people to put in there eighteen positions, Mm-hmm. so uh to the best uh if you take uh two people room for the reading room, then you have Well, sixteen uh sixteen places. slots for Mm. fifteen people. So it's still should be feasible. Yeah, that that also means That's that the growth will be zero. Yeah, I think that's quite important to manage some space. Maybe we can think of, yeah, some two Visiting or three, visiti visiting yeah, researchers, for visiting people. students coming Correct. for exchange students et cetera. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, so let Rudolph Mojica finish with the the constraints which are almost done. So we also need to to find the a spot for the photocopier, the fax machine, and the printer. The fax, you know, is very small, but um the photocopier is quite huge, and the printer is uh well ab this size. Um okay, the offices comes with white boards. Not very uh very important. Uh the furniture that w each each person has and uh you have a list of people. So the thing uh you you ought to know is that we're not the only ones that w we're thin that that are thinking about uh for well, about putting people i in these rooms. Um there is another group that is also having discussions. So the idea is that today we'll just try to f start seeing the main constraints and then you have time to to go and think about it uh ask the people you know, your assistants, for instance, next meeting we'll try to to come with one solution. Uh, the other group will also propose a solution and then there will be another negotiation. So And w if we don't get this space then what happens? Uh if i if we don't get these? These, yeah. Um, well We j basically we stay they are where promised we are. to us so uh Do do you think there are chances that they take from us one of the rooms or uh Okay. Yeah, I I I think it's uh Uh, No the the the chances yeah. might be that there are more people to put in that space. Yeah i yeah, that's one of the the problems. I think maybe we should take this into account and maybe think of some of the bigger rooms with four people, one being temporary or or part-time. Um okay, so maybe we could try to to see now what would be the main options. Say the general uh, well, arrangement options. Do you think that we should put people, say, according to projects for instance? In in the table that um that we have, uh we also have the uh uh the p the main projects on which the people are working. So how Andre, sorry for Yeah. interrupting, but uh one Mm-hmm. again clarification question, what is the real margin of manoeuvre that we have for these discussions, because uh at least we are half per cent uh fifty per cent of from E_P_F_L_ and uh sometimes you have meetings where w y the the decision is already taken, so uh um you can spend quite a lot of time discussing things, so what what will be the impact of what we will come out Oh, actually come what up with? is fixed is the n the number of rooms. This we cannot really change. I mean at least not us, it would be much more difficult to get another another room for instance. But what is absolutely n not fixed is the arrangement of the people in the rooms. So So, another basically way of we a are all the permutations are possible at the moment. Another way of asking the question, is there any other group already working on uh on the how this should be uh should be allocated? Or are we the Um the one that is supposed to do the p the the p position for it? Well, what we are looking for is a solution that suits everyone and that makes the maximum of people happy. So uh the other group is, uh I don't think we have to see them as competitors, but they are just trying to to find another local optimum. Or But l wha why uh why don't they have any representative here. I mean Yeah, why didn't we have a meeting together? Yeah, Uh, they why have Uh do another we do group it separately? and uh uh Andre and Agnes will about it with. You are the rep representative Yeah. of this group actually. Yeah uh uh we Yeah. I I think that's Yeah, there is no real competition between the two, but we'll just try to find at least two solutions and see how how close they are, actually. It's it's I think well the m the people who who decided this thought it was the best solution to, mm well, you know, find two two kinds of opinions. Yeah. Okay. Well, we could have been eight h sitting around here and and talking, but I think it's it's more difficult. No, but you know that that's a standard thing. It's Suppose that somebody for some strange reasons want to be in the corner and we don't know about that, we'll put them put her or him somewhere else, then we will do plenty of work for nothing, Mm-hmm. because we'll not have this constraint. We'll not Well be aware of this constraint. Exactly, I think So so today the goal is not to to find the solution Oh, today, okay. but to set some constraints Okay. and then go and see the people and find out if they have any preferences. Obviously we won't be able to accommodate all the the preferences, but at least we'll find the most uh the most important ones. Well, certainly we have P s to I think ask uh Pierrette and uh and Maggie, since they're not here, because Mm-hmm. they also a Yeah. lot of students that they have to see as we do, and Yeah. so that's another consideration, too. Yeah, I think so that's one of the things I think we know that they have students, we don't know exactly if they prefer for instance to be alone, or to well, to be with their assistant, or even with another person working on the project. So that would have been maybe, yeah, another solution is to ask everyone to provide uh an arrangement, but uh I think that's a bit uh a bit hard then to to work out. Um so since all of you have a copy of the uh, well, of the drawing, I think for the next time, m maybe you could come with a concrete proposal with uh names on it. But let us try to see today whether we prefer to organise people, say, by projects or just professor and assistant. So what would be f, say, first your preferences, since Let's let's start with us, maybe today. Um what do you think about it? Would you prefer to be alone, would you prefer to be with your assistant. You who are part-time, do Hmm. you think you can come here on a very w well regular schedule or is it part-time, but variable during the week? Yeah uh, okay uh, Rudolph Mojica personally I would like to to to share the other peopl n uh the room with assistants as when you have problems of normal life, like uh the printer doesn't work, uh I don't want to ask this to my supervisor, Uh-huh. And since you're coming on the uh half-time, Mm-hmm. do you think you will be able to group your presence here, say Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday morning, or is it going to be What m much uh more random? I don't think it's a good idea to share uh t to ha to share the same desk. Okay. Uh I still would like to have my drawers and these things. Yeah, I think so too. Um so Martin, you are also uh half-time and, well, the third person is Gisella. I think it's quite clear that mm each person should have their own desk and I agree with Yeah. that. That's It's no no way we we could put two persons at the same desk. Whe whe where part-time is important is that it's n an overlo load on a room, so um for sure if you have a part-time person, it reduces the the ranges of time where too many people in the room. Yeah, I think As far grouping as I am concerned I probably might be able to have a kind of a regular presence here. Um, the uh the thing that f in my case has to be taken into account is that I will have a lot of phone calls. So Mm-hmm. I'll be talking o Oh o great. o over the phone all the time. So that's not necessary Well, it depends on I I have nothing against sharing a a an office with somebody. I d already did it before, so and it was perfectly fine. It just has to be somebody who can work while somebody else is having phone calls in the in the room, which is very d much dependent on people. Some people are not disturb at all by this. Mm-hmm. Some people just can't work. Are you disturbed by the phone calls of other people? I'm not. Okay. But uh and uh what might happen, but it uh it will not be so heavy here uh at ISSCO is visitors. So that I will have more at E_P_F_L_, uh typically students Mm-hmm. coming in um or asking for things. As I'm not teaching here, I'm teaching at E_P_F_L_, this should shouldn't be a such a big load. So for Rudolph Mojica it it will be essentially I will not Mm-hmm. be I will not be able to be silent in the room, because I will be communicating also through vocal means, so Mm-hmm. Ye mm before um talking more about individual preferences, is there any possibility, what they have done in the uh faculty of law, for example, that they actually split rooms? And so we would take uh uh one of the two people rooms Hmm. and split it. And you would see that you would have Yeah. the same size office, but that would give the privacy. Mm-hmm. Um insofar as in just about every other faculty in the building, every professor has their own office. Mm-hmm. And it's Hmm. it's really it goes a bit far that uh we have to have this uh all this sharing uh. So one option and that but that we would need to ask about if we could uh split one of the rooms uh Do you go for boxes for instance? In the in the bigger rooms where, yeah Like You know like cubicles. uh cubicles? Yeah. That doesn't really solve it uh Hmm. I mean there's there's You mean, really you a difference really want Mm-hmm. to to have having walls. to have your own Yeah, and sometimes Four walls. you have uh Yeah. you need to have private uh discussions Yeah, with somebody sure or sure. whatever, so Yeah, I I I will try to find out whether we can separate. I think for the moment the answer at least is no, because um it's not only, well, making a wall, but also b mm making a new door. So it's quite a lot of uh of work, but uh I will try to find this out for the next time. Um, so at least for the moment, as you can see there are uh I can show them here on the screen. So there are these two rooms on the left that uh accommodate one person. Mm-hmm. So at least Yeah. some of the professors, since you are four, uh could could go uh well, could take these uh these rooms. And quite a lot of rooms with two persons. Uh how do you feel Susan about the professor sharing the room with her assistants or the one which is the most involved in in the teaching? Well, I I think it's uh really a matter of personal preference. As you know um, I prefer to have Hmm. uh my own office. Hmm. Um, I also have uh a lot of phone calls and y you know, have to see people, and with the other work that I'm doing with the rectorate uh, that is really confidential information that Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm treating. So Yeah. I That I have to be really careful about too. But it's a personal preference uh. Insofar as what we've had up until now, both Maggie and Pierrette have been happy to share with others. So I mean I think Mm-hmm. that we should still check with them I fully agree with that. That's uh it's much easier to Rudolph Mojica to uh to foresee having two people of the same position sharing a room, than Well, not uh sharing with each other. They Oh each sharing share with with an their assistant. students. Yeah. Oh sorry, Yeah. because but that that's uh it's it's tricky because of confidentiality reasons, as you said. Yeah, you you you are discussing a budget on the on the project, you over the phone typically you don't necessary want to have somebody who will be dependent Paid on Mm-hmm. on that that budget being part of the discussion, Mm-hmm. so Yeah, that's um that's true. Um, okay. Um, maybe we could s look a bit at the projects. Do you think it's a good idea to put together in the same room as No. much as possible people from the same project, since they talk No, because quite a lot of to pro each other? project doesn't last in time. They will change. Mm-hmm. That's Okay. what Well, yeah, and some of the P_H_D_ students will hopefully Yeah, they will finish promote that. their P_H_D_ at some point. But still, th some things Well, Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah, and also some of our the people mentioned here are working on more than one project Yeah. too. So For example, Mm-hmm. uh Marianne de uh, she's also working with Rudolph Mojica on the virtual campus project, so Uh-huh. she that one wasn't mentioned, but I'm not saying Okay, that I necessarily yeah. want to be with her in the office, but Mm-hmm. uh it's just to say people are working on uh sometimes more than one project uh If if it if i if projects are what you have in mind, I think that uh meeting room is the the tool for that. Yeah. If you need Yeah. to have people in a projects talking together, they just have a meeting room if Yep. it's not too far away then then it's a very good good Yeah. practice. Well, actually, so the lounge could serve as some kind of meeting room, but there are also more formal meeting rooms Yes. available in in the building, as we That's now why know. I was quite receptive to uh Susan's remark at the beginning is I wouldn't formulate it in a such a an extreme way as, do we really need the lounge? But uh I would Mm-hmm. p probably formulate it in the way that uh, do we want to have only a lounge or s something that can be used only as a reading room? Because because meeting rooms to Rudolph Mojica are very important tools to do uh collaborative work. Mm-hmm. But on the So other I hand think we we also need a have to relax, so that's Yeah, and and I think also we need a separate discussion on the furnishing of the Yes. lounge, Well, which is yeah, a we'll whole skip that other for now. topic. Yes. No I d um the lounge okay, but I think we need to also see it as a overflow place when we have Yeah. um uh visitors for any length of time, so Yeah. they actually have a place to work. 'Cause that's really my one of my worries Uh-huh. with the plan that we have here is that it's it pr provides no possible possibilities of expansion. And Um this will happen. I mean you can't you can't prevent having visitors. And you shouldn't. No, Yeah, you want to have yeah, visitors. for the moment Yeah. actually I think only one slot would be fully free. Uh Which that for is for fifteen Yeah. people it's not enough. Yeah, I that means mean uh one visitor at Yeah. a time. Or one Yeah it's intern. Yeah, that's We have we have four It's Mm-hmm. professors here and and and It's funny Mm-hmm. that uh we two move researchers. to another building because we run out of uh space and we will have the same problem. Mm. Yes, but we have more space here than Ah what we okay. currently have, Yeah, so it's already in progress. it's at least It's bad some it's And you're bad. you're working Uh I think, yeah, w Okay, so one of the things I have to do for the next time is fin find out about the separations between rooms Because this and is really related with security uh regulation as well. I mean you can't just put walls in in rooms Yeah, I without think it's any quite specific a heavy transformation authoris Yeah. of the building. Uh it's not necessary heavy in terms of work. It's heavy Mm-hmm. in terms of administrative authorisation. Mm-hmm. And At okay, least at E_P_F_L_. I'll try to find out. And the other question is, can we squeeze maybe four people in the uh or at least four places in the three three P_ room? I think so. If you organise the desks in a in a intelligent way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, hopefully visitors don't need as much say filing Yep. space, or um Yeah, right, that's the point. Yeah, they don't have that many papers. Uh okay. So that's uh I have to to ask, so you don't really feel um very strongly attached to this uh grouping by projects No. idea? No. Mm-hmm. No, Um because they can share their ideas across the project, yeah, I would say. Coffee machines are that made for that. Yeah, But uh exactly. usually, whe when new assistants come, they Mm-hmm. would like to share the room with someone that knows uh l uh it's related with the project, so he No, can Mm-hmm. that's that's proximity doesn't play a big role there. We can discuss Yeah, they with people that they the can the change. space is very small, I mean, altogether it's Mm. Mm-hmm. And uh No, you okay. don't y you don't need to discuss about the projects, you f more need about th to discuss about where is the printer, how do I get furniture, I'm I don't have a a pencil, where is the the box with the pencils, and so on. This is not project related. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, and if you look now at their uh the the current division of the offices, for example, uh Bruno and Agnes are sharing an office and they're working on totally different projects and Mm-hmm. Yeah. and they're they're just fine with that. Yeah, I think that's that's going to be one of the the main things we'll have to ask is whether people have strong preferences either in staying with someone or in uh not staying. Um, are you aware f of any strong constraints right now? Well, there there were, but they sort of disappeared as of October when the no smoking rule came in, because before we were Oh. grouping Yeah, the smokers that's true. and now that there's no smoking, uh I guess that's not very important option, though Okay, yeah, that's true. So smoking is now um no longer a constraint. Well, except for that maybe you don't even want anybody smoking on your balcony, so Yeah. Is it allowed to smoke inside an office, if it's a one No. person No, not any No. more. No, n it's It's non-smoking in campus. in principle it's a it's a no smoking building. You can smoke outside. Mm-hmm. So you can go outside onto the balcony Not even in the to cafeteria? smoke. Not even Downstairs? in the cafeteria. No. Full Yeah. That's no Okay. smoking the new building regulation. Wow. for all of the six thousand students. On the roof maybe. Uh on the balcony, actually. Yeah. The balcony, Yep. okay. Yeah. Normally. There is the there's that terrace. But Wow, Andre, uh just there there's a no place in inside the building? No. Wow, E_T_P_F_L_ is a c it's a non-smoking campus, but there are some places tha Still some places where smokers can Yeah survive. yeah yeah. But Andre, just Yeah. a comment abou Mm-hmm. about your your previous uh request. I I don't think that anyone will provide you information such as who doesn't want to be with whom. That's a typical uh output of ex uh research in expert systems. These are the rules that you never get. But uh you can get them through a proposal. The other way. So you propose Mm-hmm. a set-up, where people are with other peoples and they will find politically correct ways to tell you that uh they don't want to have a view on the mountains, but they prefer to have view on the old town, so they O on the would toilets be in or the toilets. They would um p prefer to be in another Mm-hmm. room. No, we we do have one constraint that's difficult, which is uh Gisella, because when Yeah. she's Yeah. there she's very noisy. Yeah. She's on the But phone that's a sec a lot s that's It's the just admin that's it's the admin by uh so Yeah. it's part of It's the by work. nat uh by Yeah. the nature of her work that uh Mm-hmm. a lot of it is communication. Yes, Martin said Yeah. also for him and, yeah, especially for Yep. her. Yeah the in she's the interface. And So that that's a problem, you're right, because Mm-hmm. because we don't have a one person we d we don't have enough one person rooms Yep. for uh accommodating the uh the admin place. And uh if you put two person persons or three persons for the admin space, who who who else would you put in there? Mm-hmm. Because we don't have any assistant manager or we don't have We have only one half part half-time uh admin and no other non-researcher positions, if I'm not mistaken. And this is Yep. really a piece of a problem. Maybe Yeah. you could put some visitors, but um Yeah, I know. It's I not think very Yeah. uh realistic Mm-hmm. in a in a in an admin I think room, putting but Gisella uh with the other admin of the school is not an option, because I think we weren't that's a offered excellent idea. Yeah, it would be nice, Why but don't we uh ask about that? Yeah, Okay, I'll try to because find out, but You can't uh put a researcher there. That's just Either you lose one position I th or you find another admin or assistant manager. Yeah. I mean there is certainly enough space uh down the hall, wi Yeah. if all of those uh uh offices that are, where half of them are also half time, and they're very under-used. So um Okay, we'll try, but all these, yeah, are say sort of difficult questions because they involve changing also the offices of Yep. the school and, you know, people just don't wanna change in general. Um, let's see, maybe we can find some temporary well, at least a proposal for Gisella. So, since the one-person rooms are quite, well, sort of um desired by a lot of people, she No that's should not probably sure that's not sure. No, Uh the y there are Yeah. To Rudolph Mojica there Okay. are two options possible is either you we can take one of the one person rooms for the admin, because Mm-hmm. some of, typically, the professors have good reasons for sharing. Mm-hmm. Sharing either with a colleague or sharing uh with some of their uh one of their P_H_D_ students. In that case it's it's realistic. Then we could very very simply uh allocate the one pers one of the one person rooms for the admin. And that would solve the problem. The other thing is to take a two person room for the admin. That could Mm-hmm. be the one uh close to the uh close to the here in the centre so uh the Uh, the the middle one here? Yeah. But Okay. tha No no no, the other one, the the one op Yeah, here, This this one. one. Okay. But then uh that the the question of what do we do with the second position there remains fully open. Mm-hmm. So I would Well be I would be more of the opinion to to see whether it's it's so evident that, let's say the at least the two full full-time professors that are here on the list, we have one here, but uh Yeah. Maggie is is not present. Mm-hmm. If they really And Pierrette too. Yeah, and Pierrette. Yeah. If Yeah, well if if because of personal preferences they would be happy with a two person room, Mm-hmm. which might or might not be the case. I mean it's it's Yeah. certainly not uh something that we should impose, Mm-hmm. but we can ask. Yeah, because in this case, yeah, Gisella could take one of the the two person rooms and the other place would be for some kind of visitor, Yeah, but that's that not realistic either. I mean, you have you have I a fore or foreign researcher coming visiting you and you will put put him in the admin office? Ah. Okay. Uh. Uh you'll not do that. I mean uh, maybe you can do that with an exchange student, that's Yeah, Yeah, or with with an intern. younger people, yeah. But Mm-hmm. you can't take a senior visitor and uh No. him in the in So the secretary. we we invite invite and then we say, okay you can Uh sit you're with here. Gisella. Yeah. Okay. Okay so this sets a bit the stage for uh for Gisella then. Uh yeah we'll try to to find out. Um, actually, yeah, maybe we should remind that quite a lot of professors at the at the school actually share their office with their assistant. So b it looks like sort of an implicit tradition. Um Maybe As not Susan to Except said, be for followed. p in every other faculty. Okay. Yeah? Is that so? Yes, it is so Oh. Every. other faculty as far as I have seen their offices and the people Mm-hmm. that I know and that's in um in law, Yeah. uh socio-economics, Okay. uh okay? It's a They all have their own office. I mean in in the No no, that's in it. the law faculty they're at best there half time. As we said, it's Mm-hmm. it's really a matter of personal preference, it cannot be something else. It cannot Yeah. be imposed for sure. It's uh Um, okay so I think Well, this sets a bit uh the stage. Uh could we try So could you try please to uh Do you want an extra uh piece of paper? Maybe try to, job. well, think on your own and then talk a little bit just to the people around you. Again uh uh um, Andre, I think that the only realistic way we can do is to speak for our for ourselves. I can tell you Mm-hmm. according to what I know now where I would like or would be ready to be, but I really don't see how I could decide for uh Maggie or Pierrette or Yeah. whoever else on the list, No the point We're that gonna was have they to to. should try be to, there. well, just Yeah, b why why talk couldn't to them, we do like to David, couldn't or we do it like for for the the set-up of meetings. You you everyone received that and uh should provide Yeah, I would Mm-hmm. like to be here. And then you will have this multi-constraint problem and uh you work during Yeah. two hours and you come So up w with w the optimal w will solution. you ask people just for their place or also Yeah, for I the would other people's I would place? ask for their place. I mean that's that's Because that's the important Uh-huh. thing you want to know. Well, W what but that's abou what about the the the cafeteria? I mean, we are going to purchase a cafeteria with a projector and all this Uh it's a reading altogether room. or Reading room, yeah. It's Reading altogether. room, it's not a cafeteria. So in the But living that that's room an open question whether it's a it's a it's a it At the origin it was supposed to be a f pure reading room for relaxing, uh reading the newspapers, et cetera, et cetera. Mm-hmm. Uh there has been a very long discussion about that. I stinct uh this discussion is still vivid, that some of the people, I bel belong to these people, would like to have a mixed room where you can have a reading room for sure, but also meeting room if necessary. Or, as uh Susan said, a room an emergency room where you can put uh some visitors in a decent environment for for Mm-hmm. for for work, because you don't have any other place to do it. But that's that's really an open discussion and that d I think no Yeah. decision, no final Okay, decision th has then been taken about that. Okay then for the next time, um try to come up either with your own preferences, that's Yes. quite easy probably to state now that you know the constraints, Yes. or if you can poll a little bit the people around you, that would be I mean, The even one that I don't want to have in the next room? Well, just discuss i Yeah, for instance, I mean No, no, I was thinking just ask people around you Okay. what they think about this. And I think, yeah, it will be nice to to come with maybe a sketch of of these. If you can do slides, it's even better, but uh don't be that formal. And uh we'll try to at least build up one coherent proposal, and we'll merge it with the other one when the other one uh is available. Okay. Okay, I'll Um. ask um uh Maggie and Pierrette uh if That would they be great. have Oh, uh great. That would be any great. preferences. Mm-hmm. Perfect. C that that of course is one of the Yeah. main well not main but Yeah. one of the important No. features that we need to Yeah, know since about. they're not at the meeting I think Yes. it's in And out I'll try of courtesy to we should Yes. first ask Bu I ju them. just before Fine. finishing uh, I mean, we have a cafeteria or we don't eat at all? We don't have cafeteria. What do you mean by cafeteria He means reading exactly? room. A place n what mm uh What we can take a coffee also. No, there is no coffee in the reading room. No? Yeah, That w we was can the wrong bring We your coffee in the reading we did not room, have any but money for buying the coffee machines, So so so since maybe, you're a part-time here, and part-ti part-time at E_P_F_L_, there are at least two um coffee machines in the building, one at the third floor, one at the first floor. But And they we can close bring at our coffee. five or? No Ah uh automatic okay. No. Coffee uh machines. coffee machines. Okay, okay. So uh yeah. No, there's But, the cafeteria is downstairs, in Yeah, yeah, but they this. close Uh-huh. at five. Five. Ah that's the main problem. Yeah, Mm-hmm. but there's the two machines, and they're uh the vending machines where you just Yeah, put vending the money machines. and and And Mm-hmm. Okay. you you can can bring get your coffee Yeah. in the Okay. reading room. Yeah. Yeah, maybe this is not a very bad timing. Could we try T to to meet try the coffee? uh next Tuesday? Wait. Um, next Tuesday maybe at t maybe a bit later? Maybe at eleven Wait, wai wai o'clock? wai wait. Wait, Next wait. Tuesday. Tuesday um Come on, try try to be nice. Uh, well well well well, not Gi so give easy, Yes, eh? Rudolph Mojica a reasonable I ha I date. have Ch no constraints, so it's fine. Um we have the Yeah, don't for forget Rudolph Mojica it's we have a good the other timing. meeting the M_D_M_ meeting in the morning, so it would have to be in the afternoon. Uh-huh, Next okay. Tuesday we have a meeting, Yeah. yeah. Exactly. That might be Where is the meeting? It's Unimail? Yeah. Okay, so, yeah yeah, then it could be At that nine thirty, but we could do we could That have this meeting yeah. then in the That afternoon. Okay. Nah? that would be great, because that would Mm-hmm. allow us not to move, or Very not well. to travel Yep. twice. So about two o'clock? Would Okay. that be okay? After Yeah, lunch. Yeah. after lunch. It's not Okay. a very demanding Right. meeting, Yep. so um Okay. Perfect. Um, then let Rudolph Mojica close this. And uh good luck for your arrangement games. Thank you. | Walter Cook opened the meeting and described the layout of the new location the group might be moving to. Walter Cook answered questions regarding the number of people per office and whether a lounge was necessary. Walter Cook discussed constraints regarding furniture and equipment and addressed the issue that the group may not get the space they are after. The group then discussed how to arrange people within the proposed space. The group discussed grouping professors and their students together, grouping members of the same project together, the potential disturbance of phone calls to people sharing an office, physically splitting up offices for the sake of privacy by erecting walls, creating a meeting room for people of the same project to converge, how to accommodate visitors, where people can go to smoke, where to place Gisella, and how to allocate space to admin. 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David Nitta: Okay.
Andrew Hampton: Or you get it. Okay.
David Nitta: No I don't think so it has to like yeah and you have to adjust the length.
David Nitta: Okay, and then.
Michael Isom: So we uh we will wait for Anna
David Nitta: Yeah,
Michael Isom: a few minutes.
David Nitta: s yeah, um.
Andrew Hampton: Mm. Yours is well
David Nitta: I think you can put anywhere you want, actually.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah
David Nitta: I
Andrew Hampton: but
David Nitta: thin
Andrew Hampton: the the mic should not
David Nitta: It's not a directional mic, anyway.
Michael Isom: I think it should work like this.
David Nitta: Uh.
Michael Isom: So I will try to get my presentation running.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Mm.
Andrew Hampton: Mm. Can't help you with that.
David Nitta: Last.
Michael Isom: It's
Andrew Hampton: Okay,
Michael Isom: no
Andrew Hampton: it's
Michael Isom: matter.
Andrew Hampton: y yeah.
Michael Isom: No problem. Ah yes.
Andrew Hampton: Right.
David Nitta: Okay.
Andrew Hampton: Then press uh al
David Nitta: Okay.
Andrew Hampton: This.
Michael Isom: I don't
Andrew Hampton: You
Michael Isom: know.
Andrew Hampton: know?
Michael Isom: Just try.
David Nitta: 'Kay.
Michael Isom: On
Andrew Hampton: Oh oh.
Michael Isom: this normal
David Nitta: Alt F_ five.
Michael Isom: Good. Doesn't appear on the screen here.
Andrew Hampton: Right well
Michael Isom: Oh.
Andrew Hampton: Wow. Amazing. It's working.
Michael Isom: Okay. Thank you. Uh.
John Smithson: Hold that.
Michael Isom: Yes and you
John Smithson: Okay.
Michael Isom: can put can clip it uh on your Somewhere.
John Smithson: Okay. Mm.
Michael Isom: So, good morning, everyone. Um Welcome uh at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project. I hope you all have been uh updated about it.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Good.
David Nitta: So. Yes.
Michael Isom: So w we will try to structure this uh meeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here. Um after the opening we will tr get acquainted to each other. See what our roles are in this project. So, um We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh to communicate and to well, learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh to get acquainted to this tools so they are also new to John Smithson I don't know whether you worked with them before. Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan. You all know I hope how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going
David Nitta: Total.
Michael Isom: to design. Uh then we will uh discuss uh, well, how it should be and uh wh what uh what our new product should look lite like. And uh well then uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting. So. Um basically this is about a uh a new c remote control. Um We When you design a new product you of uh you of course want it to be original. Be uh we want to be distinguished, mm? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think, well that's the product I I need. So it needs to be trendy. I mean trendy is what people want, so then I w they will buy our product. But then, uh, it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it will not be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that. So, the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through a functional design phase. Um You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase and uh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design. And the same holds for the uh ph two phases uh after this, the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the final project should get its definite shape. Alright, but first we will do some uh tool training. In all in front of you uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a a a white-board.
David Nitta: Whitebo
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: And um well it should work uh I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work with some kind of toolbar. I didn't find out yet how it work, but maybe one of you did, so Um
Andrew Hampton: Under documents in the shared folder. Okay.
Michael Isom: Yes. Do Do we have to say something about that? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared folder uh.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah, I guess we'll have a shared folder uh with documents that we can share.
Michael Isom: Yes
Andrew Hampton: yeah.
Michael Isom: well we will then find out ho how it works.
Andrew Hampton: Yes.
Michael Isom: Um. Well, this seems to John Smithson, yes, some computer program but I didn't find it yet. So, we'll come to that later. So, uh now we will try out the white-board we have here. So, I would suggest uh
Andrew Hampton: Each of us is going.
Michael Isom: Well, yes, um we uh we should try to t to draw on it and then well it should be smart some way. I I'm not really sure how this works, but
Andrew Hampton: Okay, shall I start?
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: Yeah,
John Smithson: Yeah.
David Nitta: you
Michael Isom: Yes,
David Nitta: can start
Michael Isom: a good
David Nitta: it
Michael Isom: idea
David Nitta: you know.
John Smithson: I think for us
Michael Isom: Mael.
John Smithson: it's just like a normal whiteboard, but they'll be recording
Andrew Hampton: So,
John Smithson: what we
Andrew Hampton: i
John Smithson: write down.
David Nitta: No they will record through that. There's a sensor over
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: there which is going to record
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: the strokes
John Smithson: But
David Nitta: that
John Smithson: for
David Nitta: you
John Smithson: us
Michael Isom: Okay.
David Nitta: make.
John Smithson: it's just like a normal whiteboard.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: 'Kay.
Andrew Hampton: But it's Actually, I think I cannot go with uh
Michael Isom: You you D doesn't it work? Maybe someo Maybe maybe Anna, maybe
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: you can start. Then he can maybe find out to get his cord right.
John Smithson: I have
Michael Isom: So
John Smithson: to draw.
Michael Isom: um L Why don't you draw uh your favourite animal on on th on
John Smithson: M
Michael Isom: the white-board.
John Smithson: my my favourite animal. Sorry this is all tangled up here.
Michael Isom: Oh, I see uh
John Smithson: That's better.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Yeah. Yes. Mm. So draw it. We will try to
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: guess what it is.
John Smithson: I'm a very bad drawer. Weird. my drawing. I'm a bad drawer. Okay.
Michael Isom: Mm.
John Smithson: They're
David Nitta: 's a
John Smithson: ears,
David Nitta: cat.
John Smithson: by the way. No. Um close though. Okay so like a pet animal.
Andrew Hampton: Okay.
John Smithson: Like a cat.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: It's like a cat, so I guess it's a cat.
John Smithson: No, not a cat though.
Michael Isom: What is this now?
David Nitta: Ah you forget about it.
Andrew Hampton: You're on the knife.
David Nitta: Yeah, uh I think it's fine. I just don't want to carry it off. Man, this wires, eh? We need a wireless microphone. You know? Pro specially we should next project we should take l like that.
Michael Isom: So,
John Smithson: Okay. So.
Michael Isom: that's
John Smithson: It's
Michael Isom: the cat.
John Smithson: not a
Michael Isom: Oh.
John Smithson: cat, it's
David Nitta: So.
John Smithson: a dog.
Andrew Hampton: Mael.
Michael Isom: It's a dog.
John Smithson: Yes.
Michael Isom: So but that's also kind of
David Nitta: Oh
Michael Isom: cat,
David Nitta: the dog
Michael Isom: isn't
David Nitta: doesn't
Michael Isom: it?
David Nitta: have a tail?
John Smithson: It's
Michael Isom: B
John Smithson: got a tail then.
Michael Isom: bo
David Nitta: Yeah,
Michael Isom: both predators.
David Nitta: sure, yeah.
John Smithson: Yeah yeah.
David Nitta: I thought so. The dogs have a tail.
Michael Isom: So, thank
John Smithson: So do
Michael Isom: you.
John Smithson: cats.
Michael Isom: Uh d did you uh
John Smithson: And you guessed cats
Michael Isom: work
John Smithson: without
Michael Isom: out
John Smithson: a
Michael Isom: cord?
John Smithson: tail.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah, I think I will go without
John Smithson: Okay.
Andrew Hampton: without it, right?
Michael Isom: Okay.
David Nitta: It'll still not extend, right? It's not up to that.
John Smithson: Okay, there you go. So what favourite characteristics. Uh. Dogs are always friendly and loyal and fun.
John Smithson: A horse?
David Nitta: It's a horse.
John Smithson: This is why you're the designer. And I'm marketing.
Michael Isom: Yes. Yes, yes this is Yes definitely a horse. Yes. Oh very good. So
John Smithson: Ah
Michael Isom: I suppose
David Nitta: Ah
Michael Isom: it
David Nitta: I think you can put that.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm. That's it. A blue and black zebra.
Michael Isom: Yes. Can you can meet them in Africa, I think. Yes. Very good. So
John Smithson: The very rare blue zebras. Yes.
David Nitta: I'll
Michael Isom: Ma Matthew?
David Nitta: tell to get it off my Uh? Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: So
John Smithson: You got a lot
Michael Isom: Maybe
John Smithson: of room here. You can probably reach.
David Nitta: Oh y it's not for that.
John Smithson: No?
David Nitta: No.
Michael Isom: I hope you have some space in your uh the
David Nitta: Okay.
Michael Isom: horse
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: of uh Mael.
David Nitta: So what should I draw? Mm. He has already to do cat.
John Smithson: I took a dog.
John Smithson: Um. A mouse?
Michael Isom: This looks likes a cat who has been driven over.
John Smithson: Okay.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah. And we should sum up its favourite charas characteristics, right?
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: So
Michael Isom: That's that's definitely a cat.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: Uh yeah. And i Th They like to sleep, that's why you said you they are like this. Yeah.
Michael Isom: It's quite, you know relaxed situation. Yes.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: Yes, okay.
Andrew Hampton: She has the small legs.
Michael Isom: Th thank you, Matthew.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah. Thank you, Matthew.
John Smithson: It's
Andrew Hampton: Perfect.
John Smithson: a very big rat. Or a very small
Andrew Hampton: Oh
John Smithson: cat.
Andrew Hampton: a rat, okay.
Michael Isom: Yes, this is certain uh some contribution to our
Andrew Hampton: And
Michael Isom: project.
Andrew Hampton: you,
John Smithson: Mm 'kay. Your turn.
Michael Isom: So. Let's see. Which animal has not been drawn yet.
Michael Isom: So you've all drawn land animals, so why not draw an animal from
Andrew Hampton: A bird.
Michael Isom: the water.
Andrew Hampton: Okay, in the water.
John Smithson: Ah I don't know what that is. It's
Andrew Hampton: Mm.
John Smithson: a bit It's a bit hard to guess.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Mm.
David Nitta: So
Andrew Hampton: Put it colours. Maybe it would help
John Smithson: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: us.
Michael Isom: Yes.
David Nitta: The cat is going to eat the fish or
Andrew Hampton: With
David Nitta: the
Andrew Hampton: different
David Nitta: rat?
Andrew Hampton: pen widths.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm
Michael Isom: So
John Smithson: Oh, it's a shark now.
Andrew Hampton: Ah it's a shark, yeah.
Michael Isom: Oh, yes, why not? Good idea.
David Nitta: Ah it's a baby shark, it looks to John Smithson, you
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: know it's going to eat the cat rather than the cat eating the fish,
Andrew Hampton: Oh.
David Nitta: no?
John Smithson: Now it's a swordfish.
Michael Isom: Why not.
Andrew Hampton: You
Michael Isom: A swordfish.
Andrew Hampton: have some in in Australia, right?
John Smithson: Swordfish.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
John Smithson: Um,
Andrew Hampton: I dunno.
John Smithson: maybe. I've never
Andrew Hampton: Oh
John Smithson: seen
Andrew Hampton: well.
John Smithson: one, no.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: I hope it still works.
Andrew Hampton: Perfect.
Michael Isom: So
Andrew Hampton: So I dunno if we need to spend time on that, actually But uh
David Nitta: You should go for the
Michael Isom: W
David Nitta: next
Michael Isom: Well,
David Nitta: one
Michael Isom: this
David Nitta: it seems to
Michael Isom: uh
David Nitta: John Smithson.
Michael Isom: this tool seemed to work.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah,
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: exactly,
Michael Isom: Let's continue
Andrew Hampton: yeah.
Michael Isom: to uh to
Andrew Hampton: Wow.
Michael Isom: the real stuff. Um our project uh finance uh thing. Uh when we are and when w you are uh going to design w uh we must keep in mind that the selling price of the product uh will be about twenty five Euros, so when designing
David Nitta: Twenty four.
Michael Isom: a project uh I also look at you uh Mael,
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: keep in mind uh uh uh People uh want to get the feeling this is a twenty five Euro project uh pr um
Andrew Hampton: Per remote control,
Michael Isom: product.
Andrew Hampton: yeah?
John Smithson: Mm.
Andrew Hampton: Per project.
Michael Isom: Yes. Okay. Um more interesting for our company of course, p uh profit aim, about fifty million Euro. So we have to sell uh quite a lot of this uh um things. Uh we will try to uh to get at a international market uh so um it will be I think mainly Europe and uh Northern America,
David Nitta: Ah yeah, the sale man,
Michael Isom: maybe
David Nitta: four
Michael Isom: some uh
David Nitta: million.
Michael Isom: Asian countries. Um also important for you all is um the the product uh production cost must be maximal uh twelve uh twelve Euro
Andrew Hampton: So it's
Michael Isom: and fifty cents.
Andrew Hampton: half of the selling price, if I am good in
Michael Isom: Yes,
Andrew Hampton: mathematics.
Michael Isom: of course. Uh um I mean we still have to uh to make a profit, huh?
Andrew Hampton: Of
David Nitta: They
Andrew Hampton: course.
David Nitta: have to sell
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: at least
Michael Isom: You
David Nitta: four
Michael Isom: all
David Nitta: million
Michael Isom: have to be paid.
David Nitta: to make a profit
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: Ah
Michael Isom: Excuse
David Nitta: we have
Michael Isom: John Smithson?
David Nitta: to make we have to sell at least four million to make our own profit.
Andrew Hampton: Oh
David Nitta: Fifty
Andrew Hampton: you're g very
David Nitta: mill
Andrew Hampton: good in mathematics.
John Smithson: Yes.
Michael Isom: Yes,
Andrew Hampton: Four
Michael Isom: indeed.
Andrew Hampton: million.
Michael Isom: So uh
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: well I think w when we are working on the international market, uh in principle it has enough customers uh so when we have a good product we uh we could uh meet this this aim, I think. So, that about finance. And uh now just let have some discussion about what is a good remote control and uh well keep in mind this this first point, it has to be original, it has to be trendy, it has to be user friendly. Um, maybe someone can mention some additional uh prerequisites for
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: a good remote control.
David Nitta: Of course it should have a on off button.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: Yes, well i it should have the the the the expected functionality
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: uh of a remote control.
John Smithson: Yeah.
David Nitta: Yeah, s and it depends what application you are using it for.
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: You might need uh
Michael Isom: We wer we were thinking television. Uh.
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: We are targ targeting the television set. So,
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: you need to record the channels.
John Smithson: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Mm-hmm.
David Nitta: You need to browse the browse the channels in upward
Michael Isom: Yes,
David Nitta: downward
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: way,
Michael Isom: yes. Th th that's very handy I I always miss it and on
David Nitta: Uh
Michael Isom: some remote controls that
David Nitta: And
Michael Isom: you can go channel up or down ins instead of
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: retyping the number, especially
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: when you have a lot
David Nitta: Uh,
Michael Isom: of channels.
David Nitta: and
Andrew Hampton: And uh just before starting the detailed discussion, maybe we You are the marketing guy? Or
John Smithson: I'm marketing.
Andrew Hampton: th
David Nitta: Marketing.
Andrew Hampton: So you are the marketing.
John Smithson: Yep.
Andrew Hampton: And you are in the u use user interface
David Nitta: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: uh
Michael Isom: Yes.
Andrew Hampton: design. So
David Nitta: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: just yeah I wanted to to be sure.
David Nitta: Sure.
Andrew Hampton: And I I'm the Andrew Hampton
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: okay.
Michael Isom: Yes.
Andrew Hampton: Because I
David Nitta: Oh.
Andrew Hampton: I don't know you very well, actually,
David Nitta: I'm
Andrew Hampton: but
David Nitta: Matthew.
Andrew Hampton: yeah. Okay.
David Nitta: You know.
Andrew Hampton: Mael.
David Nitta: Matth
Andrew Hampton: Happy to meet you.
David Nitta: s uh
John Smithson: Anna.
Andrew Hampton: Okay.
David Nitta: Anna.
Andrew Hampton: It's very
David Nitta: And
Michael Isom: A and
Andrew Hampton: uh
Michael Isom: I'm Nanne.
David Nitta: um uh Matthew, yeah. I
Michael Isom: So
David Nitta: thi
Andrew Hampton: Uh
David Nitta: think you know
Andrew Hampton: so
David Nitta: John Smithson, yeah?
Andrew Hampton: yeah
David Nitta: right
Michael Isom: Yes.
David Nitta: yeah.
Andrew Hampton: uh Just uh on your web page but uh yeah not uh
Michael Isom: So. Um
Andrew Hampton: not face to face.
Michael Isom: S
David Nitta: So.
Andrew Hampton: So
Michael Isom: S
Andrew Hampton: mm
Michael Isom: s
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: Are
David Nitta: So
Andrew Hampton: So
Michael Isom: there
Andrew Hampton: I
Michael Isom: some other very important things to to do well, to specify in this first phase of of the project. So the browse function,
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: as you m
John Smithson: Yeah.
Michael Isom: mentioned.
David Nitta: And
John Smithson: Oth
David Nitta: uh,
John Smithson: yeah.
David Nitta: you'd need the usual ones, like the changing the volume, changing the the channel and then
Michael Isom: Yes.
David Nitta: you
Michael Isom: Yeah.
David Nitta: uh Today we have uh um teletext and all those things. Tomorrow you might have a some more functions which might come through that,
Michael Isom: Yes.
John Smithson: Mm.
Andrew Hampton: Like
David Nitta: so
Andrew Hampton: what? Like internet on
David Nitta: Yeah
Andrew Hampton: the
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: I_P_O_
Andrew Hampton: on
David Nitta: or.
Andrew Hampton: T_V_?
David Nitta: Now we are looking for television things or I_P_. For
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
David Nitta: example personal video recorder
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: and all those stuffs are coming up.
John Smithson: But we can't really design
David Nitta: Yeah.
John Smithson: for something that hasn't been invented yet.
David Nitta: Ah it's it's it's it's coming up, actually. The personal video recorder and all those
Michael Isom: Mm,
David Nitta: things it is coming
Michael Isom: well
David Nitta: up.
Michael Isom: uh I I think Uh
Andrew Hampton: Actually,
Michael Isom: w
Andrew Hampton: yeah
David Nitta: Let's
Michael Isom: y
Andrew Hampton: w
David Nitta: Let's take
Michael Isom: you two should should, I think, think this over uh w espec what, what functionality.
Andrew Hampton: Of course, and first before um designing the func well thinking about the functionalities, we need to know what are the user requirements.
John Smithson: Mm. Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: Um
Michael Isom: Mm-hmm.
Andrew Hampton: then
John Smithson: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: if they need internet, then we
John Smithson: Mm.
Andrew Hampton: would be able to to p to propose something
John Smithson: Yeah.
Andrew Hampton: with uh uh T_V_ over I_P_. But
John Smithson: But
Andrew Hampton: before
John Smithson: Ninety percent of the time, ninety nine percent of the time, people will be using the main functions, the volume, the different channels, so we can have all the fancy things as well but the main controls need to be very obvious and very easy
Michael Isom: Mm
John Smithson: to use.
Michael Isom: mm mm. Keep k keep in mind i it's a it's a twenty five Euro unit, so uh uh the the very fancy stuff uh w we can leave that out, I think. So
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: twenty five Euro you expect a quite, well normal but
John Smithson: Mm.
Michael Isom: good functioning user friendly remote control.
David Nitta: Oh in that case you can you always hook up with uh someone who is providing that and you know, you you sell their product as well as your product with them,
John Smithson: Mm.
David Nitta: you know.
Andrew Hampton: Yeah,
John Smithson: So
Andrew Hampton: but
John Smithson: try
Andrew Hampton: w
John Smithson: and
Andrew Hampton: w
John Smithson: get T_V_
Andrew Hampton: we
John Smithson: manufacturers
Andrew Hampton: want to design
John Smithson: to
Andrew Hampton: a new one.
David Nitta: Yeah. No, it's okay, yeah I understand.
Andrew Hampton: Mm.
David Nitta: So we need
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
David Nitta: some numbering buttons, some teletext things and then um
Andrew Hampton: The Yeah, the main is
Michael Isom: Yes, but
Andrew Hampton: browsing.
Michael Isom: but but ab
Andrew Hampton: Yeah.
Michael Isom: about the spec the buttons, the
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: buttons uh that will be on it. I I think we can discuss that in the in the next meeting.
David Nitta: Yeah.
Michael Isom: Uh I would like to get this wrapped up and go to an end of this meeting.
David Nitta: Okay.
Michael Isom: So
David Nitta: Okay, we are alread mm.
Andrew Hampton: Okay.
Michael Isom: So
David Nitta: Mm.
Michael Isom: you know now the basic the basic things.
David Nitta: Yeah.
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: And well just
David Nitta: L
Michael Isom: just for the next meeting, um well, uh, you wor yes, work on a design, keep it general, I mean so w we will be still fle flexible with maybe adding some functions.
Andrew Hampton: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: So Um you will be working on on technical function design, so
David Nitta: Yeah, sure.
Michael Isom: And uh you and you and uh uh uh well, think about requirements, eh?
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: Does it need internet, or or do do we stay at
David Nitta: Stam.
Michael Isom: basic
John Smithson: Yeah.
Michael Isom: basic television uh interface. So, uh I think we should now all go work uh uh at this and uh
John Smithson: Mm-hmm.
Michael Isom: you will be informed via email and other kind of communication.
John Smithson: Yeah.
David Nitta: Okay.
Michael Isom: So
Andrew Hampton: Perfect.
Michael Isom: next meeting will be in uh in thirty minutes uh. K keep it in mind. | The meeting begins with the group trying to resolve some equipment issues and waiting for Anna's arrival. Then Michael Isom introduces the meeting by saying they have some technical tools with which to communicate so they will try to get acquainted with them first. He starts talking about the product they are to design, a remote control which should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The general outline of the project will be the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They do some tool training by trying out the whiteboard, and each person draws his/her favorite animal on it. Michael Isom proceeds to talk about the project finance, which is followed by a group discussion about what functions a good remote control has. This includes the basics such as on/off, channel up/down browsing, volume and record button(s). At this point they clarify their names and roles in the group and then resume talking about remote control functions. They discuss some functions such as a personal video recorder, but say it is probable that they cannot produce a fancy device given their budget. Michael Isom closes the meeting by telling each group member what he/she will be working on. | 3 | amisum | test |
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: So I see all everybody's here, 'kay.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yep.
Roosevelt Torres: And we can start meeting.
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Samuel Craft: What's the agenda for this meeting?
Roosevelt Torres: The I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides
Samuel Craft: Okay
Roosevelt Torres: to you. Um as you can see here.
Marvin Lovitt: Perfect.
Roosevelt Torres: So first uh just to mention I will take notes
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: uh of this meeting and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you. I've also made notes of the previous meeting and um I was about to send them you but then uh I had to go to this uh meeting so you will get them too uh
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: Next.
Roosevelt Torres: Um.
Marvin Lovitt: So y you the also.
Roosevelt Torres: Yes.
Marvin Lovitt: Right? Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Indeed. Um. Then I hope you all have uh worked out some
Marvin Lovitt: Perfectly
Roosevelt Torres: some
Marvin Lovitt: yeah yeah
Roosevelt Torres: uh
Marvin Lovitt: of course uh-huh.
Roosevelt Torres: some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting. Um. W We will uh in a minute we will uh start with them. Um, we will see in which order we will handle them of. Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I got uh from the uh account manager, I try to work them out, they were quite abstract, and we
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: can have maybe have com some discussion about it. Uh Um about the functions and Well in this meeting we should really try to reach a decision about the target group
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: and the functionality of the
Marvin Lovitt: You mean the social target group
Roosevelt Torres: Yes
Marvin Lovitt: who we
Roosevelt Torres: I mean
Marvin Lovitt: wants
Roosevelt Torres: well
Marvin Lovitt: to target?
Roosevelt Torres: yes w who are we going to uh to
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: well
Marvin Lovitt: Oh the
Roosevelt Torres: to sell
Marvin Lovitt: customers,
Roosevelt Torres: this,
Marvin Lovitt: okay.
Roosevelt Torres: the customers,
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: indeed yes. Think that's that's important
Samuel Craft: That's the big question
Roosevelt Torres: matter.
Samuel Craft: yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh. So And then uh we will close this meeting uh and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch. Good. Um. Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations?
Samuel Craft: No, I don't.
Roosevelt Torres: You don't have presentation?
Samuel Craft: I wasn't. No.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh you want a table to to uh
Samuel Craft: I c I can talk about it but I have no
Roosevelt Torres: Yes
Samuel Craft: slides
Roosevelt Torres: yes
Samuel Craft: or anything.
Roosevelt Torres: maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm. Well I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group so, a hundred people, just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control. Um. It's probably can't email this to you, I've just got a web page with some data on it. Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls. Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: Um. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Um. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot, so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television. Uh. Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons, so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: Um.
Roosevelt Torres: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page
Samuel Craft: I have
Roosevelt Torres: you
Samuel Craft: an
Roosevelt Torres: said?
Samuel Craft: a web page yes.
Roosevelt Torres: Yes, mayb maybe you can can send an email to Samuel Craft later uh.
Samuel Craft: Yep. Yep, sure.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh about this.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm. So basically um there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control. Um, power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour. Um, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um and then there's things like channel settings, audio settings, which are only used very infrequently.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: Um. Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour, so it is used but not nearly as much as
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: the channel selection is used. Um. An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room,
Roosevelt Torres: Yes
Samuel Craft: so
Roosevelt Torres: yes,
Samuel Craft: some
Roosevelt Torres: I
Samuel Craft: way of
Roosevelt Torres: have that too.
Samuel Craft: some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users. Um. Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control, they want something that's easier to use straight away, more intuitive perhaps.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: Um.
Marvin Lovitt: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's
Samuel Craft: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to
Marvin Lovitt: Okay
Samuel Craft: use a
Marvin Lovitt: too
Samuel Craft: new
Marvin Lovitt: much
Samuel Craft: one.
Marvin Lovitt: time to learn.
Samuel Craft: Yep.
Marvin Lovitt: Okay.
Samuel Craft: Um.
Marvin Lovitt: Not enough
Samuel Craft: And thirty twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. I don't know how we'd go about combating that.
Richard Simmons: What do you mean there?
Samuel Craft: For R_S_I_? Respet Repetitive strain injury.
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: So. But
Roosevelt Torres: They think that or do their doctor the doctor says?
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: users huh?
Samuel Craft: That's what the report
Roosevelt Torres: So
Samuel Craft: says yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: mm.
Samuel Craft: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown
Marvin Lovitt: Maybe
Samuel Craft: on
Marvin Lovitt: y y you cannot put this webpage online on the
Samuel Craft: Uh I should be able to actually, if I email it to you now.
Richard Simmons: You can disconnect it there no?
Roosevelt Torres: You can maybe just just
Marvin Lovitt: Ah it's
Samuel Craft: Oh no, yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: it okay it's a webpage on the C_
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: it's a file okay. O
Samuel Craft: Um,
Marvin Lovitt: otherwise
Samuel Craft: s hang
Marvin Lovitt: you.
Samuel Craft: on.
Richard Simmons: Then you can connect this one
Marvin Lovitt: can
Richard Simmons: or
Marvin Lovitt: this
Richard Simmons: this
Marvin Lovitt: one.
Richard Simmons: one yeah. All to your computer.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Well.
Marvin Lovitt: So these are important numbers that Matthew and I need to take
Richard Simmons: Oh
Marvin Lovitt: into account for
Richard Simmons: yeah.
Samuel Craft: Oh
Marvin Lovitt: our
Samuel Craft: I need to muck around
Marvin Lovitt: functional
Samuel Craft: with this. It's probably
Marvin Lovitt: um
Samuel Craft: easier if you put it on yours and then I'll just email it to you.
Roosevelt Torres: Hmm.
Samuel Craft: It's just
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah
Samuel Craft: a web link.
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account
Richard Simmons: Hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: for the uh both yeah user interface and
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: functional design.
Samuel Craft: One thing it goes on to talk about, which is interesting, is the hang on a minute.
Marvin Lovitt: Because if there are many numbers and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: is more important.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: Yep. Um, one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control.
Marvin Lovitt: Speech recognition in
Samuel Craft: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful.
Roosevelt Torres: D do you have
Marvin Lovitt: Ah
Roosevelt Torres: numbers
Marvin Lovitt: okay.
Roosevelt Torres: o o on that?
Samuel Craft: Yes, I'll just get this up.
Marvin Lovitt: So that we don't Do we not need any button on
Samuel Craft: Well
Marvin Lovitt: the remote
Samuel Craft: potentially
Marvin Lovitt: control
Samuel Craft: yeah,
Marvin Lovitt: it would be
Samuel Craft: um
Marvin Lovitt: all based on speech. Okay.
Samuel Craft: I think even for
Marvin Lovitt: Interesting idea.
Samuel Craft: interesti yeah I think that would not work so well. You wanna have both options.
Marvin Lovitt: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Well it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost, I mean when it
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: has speech recognition then uh
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: i then it doesn't matter where it is, my well it's we should be in range,
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: or maybe it can respond and produce sound, so say where it is.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: But the these are all quite fancy features I'm not sure whether
Richard Simmons: Well it would
Roosevelt Torres: we
Richard Simmons: be
Roosevelt Torres: will
Richard Simmons: f
Roosevelt Torres: we can make this for for twelve Euro fi
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: and fifty
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: cents.
Richard Simmons: No you can't.
Marvin Lovitt: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is, maybe you know?
Richard Simmons: Oh. Well, it depends you know like there is uh a very small vocabulary you want to do the operations like you want say on, off,
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Richard Simmons: one,
Marvin Lovitt: But it's quite noisy if there
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: is the
Richard Simmons: twenty
Marvin Lovitt: T_V_
Richard Simmons: three, yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: uh
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: It's it's
Roosevelt Torres: Yes,
Richard Simmons: going
Marvin Lovitt: shouting.
Richard Simmons: to be
Roosevelt Torres: that
Richard Simmons: li
Roosevelt Torres: that
Richard Simmons: it's
Roosevelt Torres: that
Richard Simmons: not going to be
Roosevelt Torres: that's
Richard Simmons: s
Roosevelt Torres: mm.
Richard Simmons: so easy but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated
Roosevelt Torres: Do you have some more
Richard Simmons: case
Roosevelt Torres: important
Richard Simmons: but it's
Roosevelt Torres: facts
Marvin Lovitt: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: or
Samuel Craft: Um
Richard Simmons: but I don't
Roosevelt Torres: can we
Richard Simmons: know
Roosevelt Torres: go
Richard Simmons: with twenty
Marvin Lovitt: So
Roosevelt Torres: to
Richard Simmons: fi
Roosevelt Torres: the next
Marvin Lovitt: you had
Samuel Craft: Well
Roosevelt Torres: presentation?
Marvin Lovitt: to to to summarise maybe the
Samuel Craft: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control, who would pay more for it, um. Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more, it goes down from there, seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five, thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five, um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five and then
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: eight percent
Richard Simmons: Okay
Samuel Craft: for fifty
Richard Simmons: it's
Samuel Craft: five to
Richard Simmons: uh
Samuel Craft: sixty five.
Richard Simmons: decline. Okay.
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: But
Roosevelt Torres: Decline
Samuel Craft: we sh
Roosevelt Torres: with age,
Samuel Craft: Yeah,
Roosevelt Torres: mm.
Samuel Craft: it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product,
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: Mm.
Samuel Craft: um, which we'll be talking about later I think.
Roosevelt Torres: Yes. We will talk about it later.
Samuel Craft: Did
Roosevelt Torres: Okay.
Samuel Craft: you get the email? Yep,
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: that one. Just follow that link.
Marvin Lovitt: I thi You us
Samuel Craft: It'll be in a different
Marvin Lovitt: yeah
Samuel Craft: window,
Marvin Lovitt: yeah.
Samuel Craft: yep. That's left that one. Yep.
Marvin Lovitt: Okay perfect. ...
Samuel Craft: Mm. So that's the figure that I was just talking about there, with the different
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Samuel Craft: demographics. Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen but there's no figures apparently on that.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: Mm 'kay.
Roosevelt Torres: Okay. um Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: your presentation uh?
Marvin Lovitt: Mm I okay I stay
Roosevelt Torres: Oh, this is
Richard Simmons: Now you can move I think yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm, y y you can move, uh.
Marvin Lovitt: I can move as far as Maybe I take your chair? I
Roosevelt Torres: Yes.
Marvin Lovitt: okay.
Roosevelt Torres: You can you can sa take my chair.
Richard Simmons: It's a channel selection, a module, this and this
Samuel Craft: Sorry?
Richard Simmons: function, go to the.
Samuel Craft: Oh.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: So I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer. And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control. Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction, how does it work, so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: uh what is it because I think in the product it is important. So basically um the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: And so an energy source feeds an integrated circuit, the chip, that can compose messages, usually uh through a um infrared bit
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages, alright. So my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first the the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product. I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: So for that yeah as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: and um w to to we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control and I show you the the working design. So um basically uh here is a really large view of what we want. Uh we want an on off button, it can be uh it's simple but it's it's important,
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: and also uh the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after, right. So the components I quickly draw here, is that in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver so that's my method is um will be to well my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control right.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: So of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver. This is very quick uh design, uh you stop Samuel Craft or interrupt Samuel Craft if uh you don't agree on it on that.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: And um so what I have found and after a lot of work actually I I draw
Samuel Craft: Well.
Marvin Lovitt: this I draw for you this uh schema
Roosevelt Torres: Uh-huh.
Marvin Lovitt: that can be maybe too technical for you but is very important for Samuel Craft you know.
Samuel Craft: You drew it a long time ago?
Roosevelt Torres: Is huh
Marvin Lovitt: And
Samuel Craft: Ninety one.
Roosevelt Torres: overwhelming.
Marvin Lovitt: uh that's it so I won't go into details about that but
Roosevelt Torres: No.
Marvin Lovitt: uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components.
Roosevelt Torres: And and why do
Marvin Lovitt: So.
Roosevelt Torres: you want these kind of component? I mean, are they cheap, or are they uh reliable? What were your
Marvin Lovitt: So components you see here are the cheapest I have found and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: if it's expensive, but uh this one was not this one also really uh reliable um so yeah that's it for the working design, uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical
Roosevelt Torres: Yes.
Marvin Lovitt: components but maybe yeah
Roosevelt Torres: It it it's more clear now I think. So
Richard Simmons: But is it uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in or you want to ma
Marvin Lovitt: No no no no we we will uh This is a preference but we can always change
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: uh
Roosevelt Torres: What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver, I mean can you can
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: you get back to it? Yeah uh, the receiver is of course already in the television and we are not uh able to change it.
Marvin Lovitt: Of
Roosevelt Torres: So
Marvin Lovitt: course yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: we we must adapt to the to the receiver. I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah. We will use uh infrared protocol uh using yeah infrared and uh and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: exists and but we what we can do is uh uh adapting the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: and
Roosevelt Torres: Mm. Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: uh
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: infrared bubbles.
Roosevelt Torres: Yes. Okay.
Marvin Lovitt: Um. Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Thank you.
Richard Simmons: Well it to du it's just you had to change the frequencies.
Marvin Lovitt: The frequencies? Yeah
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: yeah. Of course yeah in the chip you have it yeah.
Richard Simmons: But you should be careful, people are sometime becoming problem, like a guy has recently designed a remote uh
Marvin Lovitt: That can control
Richard Simmons: uh uh
Marvin Lovitt: o
Richard Simmons: which
Marvin Lovitt: other
Richard Simmons: could
Marvin Lovitt: things.
Richard Simmons: switch off any other T_V_s,
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: so basically through
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: Ah.
Richard Simmons: all the things. So maybe we should think of
Marvin Lovitt: Of course yeah we should take that
Roosevelt Torres: Yeah
Marvin Lovitt: into
Samuel Craft: That's
Marvin Lovitt: account
Samuel Craft: handy.
Roosevelt Torres: yes
Richard Simmons: yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: I I
Samuel Craft: So if the
Roosevelt Torres: I
Samuel Craft: b T_V_ in the next apartment's
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Samuel Craft: really loud,
Richard Simmons: so
Samuel Craft: you
Richard Simmons: you can
Samuel Craft: can
Richard Simmons: just
Samuel Craft: just turn
Richard Simmons: go on
Samuel Craft: it off.
Richard Simmons: the street and then switch off everyone's T_V_ and you can just walk away You don't have to be near the
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: T_V_ at all.
Roosevelt Torres: I
Samuel Craft: I like
Roosevelt Torres: I
Samuel Craft: that
Roosevelt Torres: feel
Samuel Craft: idea.
Roosevelt Torres: I I I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things. Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Roosevelt Torres: uh
Richard Simmons: so.
Roosevelt Torres: Matthew. I I I assume you were finished here.
Marvin Lovitt: Yes.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh okay.
Richard Simmons: Okay. So I can take I think mine now
Marvin Lovitt: Okay.
Richard Simmons: there. Okay so voila. Hmm I can take mine it's okay, voila, mm so mm. Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Oh. I Uh, sorry? I know where it is.
Richard Simmons: It's on the desktop.
Roosevelt Torres: It's uh
Richard Simmons: Technical function.
Roosevelt Torres: Yes.
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: It's uh
Richard Simmons: Like so. Well. So um I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do, I think my last
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: presented what is going inside,
Samuel Craft: Yep.
Richard Simmons: so what's the user is going to see from the outside and how he is going to use it. So well the approach is that uh basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set, as Mael has pointed, and it will be decoded by the T_V_ and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons with which people can uh press and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: and uh um a and basically it sends an internal signal and decoded by the receiver. So p as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys, people are can have a speech recognition but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later. But
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: in the present scenario is that you have certain keys and you press it like your mobile phone, and it sends a message to the T_V_.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yep.
Richard Simmons: And um so generally mm I don't have some figures sorry but um so there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household, actually so you have a standard T_V_ remote where you have just a on, off button and play, uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option. And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine, but tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows, but uh uh. Then there is uh this is the standard one with without any fancy thing you know like i it doesn't have teletext option, it can without any, it's a very simple thing, um which which you can vouch. And then you have uh what's the v video remote file which is like usually it has almost all the keys over there and, but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: something like that so i it has those so these are the standard uh commonly found remote controls in the uh market. And then whi which is generally used by the people. And then well personal preferences I would uh basically think of having a kind of aim for the next generation thing where the we could have both the uh the f a T_V_ and the remote video remote control because uh some of the keys in the video's remote control and the T_V_ they could be integrated together so that uh we could um aim for the like in the f coming future um that type of uh applications
Samuel Craft: Okay.
Richard Simmons: with
Samuel Craft: How would that work? So you've got say maybe a V_C_R_ and a T_V_ which are separate, so you at home I've got a V_C_R_ remote which then changes the channel on the V_C_R_
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: and doesn't do anything on the T_V_,
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: so is it gonna be like a switch on the remote that says t use the T_V_ or use the V_C_R_? or does it know which one you want to use?
Richard Simmons: Um actually um you could you could think of um having s a y you can have a key which could tell y it could go to the video
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: thing but um uh yo you you you still can't um in that case when it you use that the function should be able to take up the
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: V_C_R_ option and you could play it or You can also think about having like um in in few ye coming years you might even have a system where you have a separate uh sitting setup box and
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: uh you have uh um something like uh uh you do you do you suppose you are not able to watch some programme and
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: actually it downloading all the time for you
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: and uh you can just you know uh when you come back you could just switch on that thing and uh watch
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: a program. In that case you want to browse faster, browse slow, you
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: want to have
Roosevelt Torres: Mm
Richard Simmons: those
Roosevelt Torres: mm
Richard Simmons: kind of functionalities.
Roosevelt Torres: mm mm mm.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: These are kind of next generation
Richard Simmons: It's the next generation thing,
Marvin Lovitt: functionalities.
Richard Simmons: but it
Roosevelt Torres: Mm
Richard Simmons: is going to come
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: in couple
Roosevelt Torres: yes,
Richard Simmons: of years.
Roosevelt Torres: but
Richard Simmons: It's
Roosevelt Torres: I
Richard Simmons: goi
Roosevelt Torres: think it's i i it's already there, I mean the
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Roosevelt Torres: hard
Richard Simmons: it's
Roosevelt Torres: disk uh recorders
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: uh I I've seen them in the shop.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: Mm 'kay.
Richard Simmons: So it's going to record your things and you and
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: you you need basically the functionalities what you need in
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: both uh uh video
Samuel Craft: That's fair enough.
Richard Simmons: as well as in the standard
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: T_V_ thing.
Samuel Craft: But I don't think we're trying to make a universal remote here.
Richard Simmons: No no we are
Samuel Craft: That's,
Richard Simmons: not making
Samuel Craft: yeah.
Richard Simmons: a universal remote, we are just looking at uh giving a scenario, I have a T_V_ and tomorrow I am going to have set up box
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: which is going to sit there and
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: uh it's going to do
Samuel Craft: Because
Richard Simmons: that job
Samuel Craft: y
Roosevelt Torres: W
Richard Simmons: for
Roosevelt Torres: w
Richard Simmons: Samuel Craft.
Roosevelt Torres: w w we need to decide on on on on in how far we go to in this.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: Mean,
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: you can go pretty far I f I think with with with functions and
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: possible uh future p uh
Samuel Craft: Yep.
Roosevelt Torres: prospects yes.
Richard Simmons: Yeah. So
Roosevelt Torres: But it's good to keep in mind.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: Okay so that p ends my presentation.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm. Very
Richard Simmons: Well.
Roosevelt Torres: well.
Richard Simmons: So we can always discuss about it for example uh the presently the video market actually uh this demand, video over-demand or what we call it as,
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: it's
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: presently booming up actually
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: so it i like people are providing like uh things like uh uh movies, you can select actually so you want to watch a movie and uh your p your provider gives a list of movies, and then you select those list.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: And it basically you go off, it downloads the movie, it gives for you
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: and then when you come you want to loo watch it on your T_V_. And
Roosevelt Torres: Good.
Richard Simmons: thi this is going to come.
Marvin Lovitt: Or even you don't need to download it, it's streamed uh online uh
Richard Simmons: Yeah it can
Marvin Lovitt: yeah.
Richard Simmons: be streamed
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: online for you and you can say what time I want to watch the movie
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: and Yeah so.
Roosevelt Torres: Um,
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: so u um have uh received some some some some well points of of thinking over of my account manager and uh I would like to share them with you.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: Um
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: first thing is uh teletext is a well known feature of televisions but it's
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: it's getting used less and less.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: That's that's especially because of the internet of course.
Samuel Craft: Hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: So we should think about it um. Do we include it, and do we give it a prominent uh prominent uh place on on on the on well huh on the remote
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: mot control itself. Uh as uh a in any case it's it's not used, well very much, but it's it is still used.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: Um.
Roosevelt Torres: Um further yes we must think, uh do we stay uh to to television only, the television as we as we all know it with with broadcasting signals and you can't go back uh huh, or do we uh uh go further as Matthew indicated by supporting uh uh recording uh devices? Uh
Samuel Craft: So D_V_D_s and V_C_R_s?
Roosevelt Torres: indeed indeed.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: And and and the hard disk recorders. Um, furthermore, uh, w we need really need to interest uh y younger customers and then with younger customers I mean people uh below the age of forty,
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: and our our current customers are mainly forty plus uh
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: which well
Marvin Lovitt: Fourteen
Roosevelt Torres: Forty.
Marvin Lovitt: or for O okay. So
Roosevelt Torres: So that's to that's I mean there's a market but uh they will grow older older and you'll al always need to have the the future with younger people.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: Um therefore, younger people like trendy trendy designs, so that's w we should make our our our R_C_ as trendy as possible but it should also be uh have a reliable image, so when it looks too too spacey or too fancy people will think well does it work at all. Hmm.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: Yeah it's uh well you you can follow the ideas how you want to keep the keys, you know right now if you take it you have like zero, one, two, three like a keys separately,
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: but suppose if you take the the present trend of mobile phones
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: there are like big thick keys you press on the top, it takes one number, you press on the bottom it takes another number, and uh basically uh uh so the space covered so that you don't see two separate keys there actually
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: so it it is
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: like uh um i i it is like uh
Roosevelt Torres: Ma Maybe Maybe you can draw it on the
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: on the board
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Roosevelt Torres: uh
Richard Simmons: so.
Samuel Craft: But I think taking the idea of getting inspiration from mobile phones is interesting,
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: especially if we're
Roosevelt Torres: Hmm.
Samuel Craft: going after a younger market,
Roosevelt Torres: Yes yes
Marvin Lovitt: Because
Roosevelt Torres: mo
Samuel Craft: that's
Marvin Lovitt: they are
Samuel Craft: the
Marvin Lovitt: already
Samuel Craft: the the
Marvin Lovitt: used to that,
Samuel Craft: mm
Marvin Lovitt: you know,
Samuel Craft: the new
Marvin Lovitt: product.
Samuel Craft: and the funky things,
Roosevelt Torres: Yes
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: that's,
Roosevelt Torres: it's recognisable
Samuel Craft: yeah, there's lot there's lots of pretty mobile phones, not too many
Roosevelt Torres: Mm mm.
Samuel Craft: pretty remote controls. That's
Roosevelt Torres: And and they are skilled uh by using it.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: So for example uh Well
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm. ...
Richard Simmons: uh Okay, it works. Fine. So, for example you
Roosevelt Torres: Mael
Richard Simmons: have uh
Roosevelt Torres: can
Marvin Lovitt: Yes.
Roosevelt Torres: you
Richard Simmons: presently
Roosevelt Torres: hand Samuel Craft over this
Richard Simmons: uh keys
Roosevelt Torres: uh?
Richard Simmons: like one, two,
Roosevelt Torres: Uh thank you.
Richard Simmons: three like this,
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: actually, and uh uh four five six like that and uh you can have keys like this in form like uh
Samuel Craft: Okay.
Richard Simmons: keys like that
Samuel Craft: How much longer have we got for the meeting by the way?
Roosevelt Torres: Mm well I think
Samuel Craft: 'Cause
Richard Simmons: Forty
Samuel Craft: we haven't
Richard Simmons: minutes?
Samuel Craft: talked about demographic at all and it's
Roosevelt Torres: fi
Samuel Craft: a very
Roosevelt Torres: five
Samuel Craft: important
Roosevelt Torres: min
Samuel Craft: issue.
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: so you you you can have uh keys like uh which are which are like so. too sorry, so we basically don't change the uh original order of them but then the keys are more spacious,
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: they don't look uh so there there is a very sligh thing, so if you press on the top it
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: takes the one, it takes the three, uh four, sorry four here uh five and six,
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: so the keys can be it looks you know not very much cluttered
Marvin Lovitt: Mm-hmm.
Richard Simmons: but it looks nice for you
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: don't have too many keys but you can have a lot
Roosevelt Torres: Okay.
Richard Simmons: of options t if you
Roosevelt Torres: 'Kay
Richard Simmons: press
Roosevelt Torres: I
Richard Simmons: on
Roosevelt Torres: I
Richard Simmons: the to
Roosevelt Torres: think now that the idea's
Marvin Lovitt: Yep.
Roosevelt Torres: clear.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh we should now uh try to decide um on our target group.
Samuel Craft: Yeah. Which I think is quite tricky.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Um, basically we're trying to get people to buy a remote control wouldn't they already have a remote control with their television when they buy one?
Roosevelt Torres: Of course they have already one. So our our our remote control has to be better.
Samuel Craft: But
Richard Simmons: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: it's not going to have more functionality, 'cause it's only a low market, it's a cheap-end remote control, we can't beat modern functionality, we might we'll be able to beat them on th the look of it, th the design of it but that's not a big seller, if they're not just going to buy a new remote control just 'cause it looks pretty,
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: they have to actually need it as well. So I'm not sure how we can get people to buy this thing.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm. I well I think many people said uh in your in in your research uh
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: uh uh the appearance of the uh R_C_ is is important when they are buying one
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: but
Samuel Craft: But why are they buying one in the first place?
Roosevelt Torres: Indeed. So that will be about functionality
Samuel Craft: Mm. But if people are buying a new remote control for functionality they'll buy a universal remote. I've got friends who've got so many things they need a universal remote, otherwise they're using five different remotes
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: for their all their
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Samuel Craft: things.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm.
Samuel Craft: In that case they wouldn't buy our product, because it doesn't give them what they need in terms of functionality.
Roosevelt Torres: So your you think we should go for a more u universal high-performance
Samuel Craft: Well, we can't, with the price range. We We're not building a universal remote,
Roosevelt Torres: What
Samuel Craft: we're
Roosevelt Torres: do
Samuel Craft: not building a high end product.
Roosevelt Torres: What do you think about
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah
Roosevelt Torres: What
Marvin Lovitt: we
Roosevelt Torres: componen
Marvin Lovitt: have yeah twelve point five Euros
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: uh per uh per R_ s R_C_ and I think uh with this now you know that chips are very uh cheaps
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: and uh we can include it in our control some new new features.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah. And
Samuel Craft: But
Marvin Lovitt: um
Samuel Craft: yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: But yeah
Samuel Craft: If
Marvin Lovitt: that's
Samuel Craft: we're getting into universal remote territory, we're getting to L_C_D_ screens and things like that which would drive the cost up a lot.
Roosevelt Torres: I
Marvin Lovitt: Ye
Roosevelt Torres: don't know. I don't know whether that's necessary. Is the L_C_D_
Marvin Lovitt: I don't
Samuel Craft: For
Marvin Lovitt: think
Roosevelt Torres: screen
Samuel Craft: universal
Marvin Lovitt: L_C_D_
Samuel Craft: remotes
Marvin Lovitt: is not necessary well,
Samuel Craft: If you mm.
Roosevelt Torres: I think
Marvin Lovitt: th
Roosevelt Torres: thi
Marvin Lovitt: for long
Roosevelt Torres: this
Marvin Lovitt: term.
Roosevelt Torres: could be this could be a market because uh universal remote controls uh tend to be uh quite expensive.
Samuel Craft: And quite complicated
Roosevelt Torres: S
Samuel Craft: to use, yes.
Roosevelt Torres: so we can try to go in between, and offer a product which is not as expensive and not as
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: complicated
Samuel Craft: Not as flexible maybe,
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: yeah, but s
Roosevelt Torres: but but
Samuel Craft: yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: still but still people have the idea this is more functional than a normal uh uh
Marvin Lovitt: Universal.
Roosevelt Torres: R_C_ because
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: it has more uh it it is in some kind universal.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm. But if we're going for the say fifteen to twenty five age group then not many of them would actually own T_V_s to use a remote control on.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm yes but w we're targeting I think on more on the on the twenty to forty group.
Samuel Craft: Okay. So they're
Roosevelt Torres: People
Samuel Craft: yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: yes. Who just have or already have a job and have the money
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: but may not want to spend that much money on a
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: on a universal
Samuel Craft: Yep.
Roosevelt Torres: universal control.
Samuel Craft: I don't know really what the the price range for remote controls is. Are we gonna be at the very bottom of the price range, or are we kind of middle to bottom? I don't know.
Roosevelt Torres: Uh
Marvin Lovitt: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: well I think uh when we think it over I thi I think
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: we are trying to offer the a kind of universal control for for less money.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: So d
Richard Simmons: Well
Roosevelt Torres: Do you agree?
Richard Simmons: Well I it's fine with Samuel Craft like the price as long as it is uh not too expensive.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah because
Richard Simmons: Uh and
Marvin Lovitt: we have
Richard Simmons: it d
Marvin Lovitt: to
Richard Simmons: uh
Marvin Lovitt: take into account that
Richard Simmons: Our
Marvin Lovitt: we are gonna
Richard Simmons: provin
Marvin Lovitt: b we are gonna sell uh four aro around four million so when we speak about these numbers uh the price of a chip is uh price of a chip is very cheap.
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: Mm.
Marvin Lovitt: So I'm okay for designing um a ne uh less yeah a a kind of universal uh R_C_
Roosevelt Torres: Mm-hmm.
Marvin Lovitt: yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: You think it's possible for the twelve Euro fifty?
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: Okay. Um so then we we decide on on on going to this more universal kind of control.
Richard Simmons: Uh yeah, that's that's what we needed basically.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: Mm. Mm. Okay.
Richard Simmons: Uh that's needed right now. And
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah that's
Richard Simmons: uh basically
Marvin Lovitt: needed, yeah.
Richard Simmons: you can look
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Richard Simmons: to the standards
Marvin Lovitt: And if
Richard Simmons: of
Marvin Lovitt: we
Richard Simmons: other
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: want to get the market, we really
Samuel Craft: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: need that.
Samuel Craft: So I
Richard Simmons: Actu
Samuel Craft: guess what I'd like from a universal remote is maybe choosing between three devices, being
Marvin Lovitt: Yes.
Samuel Craft: able to switch between them, there may be stereo, V_C_R_ and T_V_.
Richard Simmons: Yeah.
Marvin Lovitt: Exactly.
Samuel Craft: And just be
Roosevelt Torres: Yes.
Samuel Craft: able to s use them all from the same remote, but not at the same
Richard Simmons: Yeah
Samuel Craft: time.
Richard Simmons: you can
Marvin Lovitt: Is that
Richard Simmons: also
Marvin Lovitt: okay for
Richard Simmons: browse
Marvin Lovitt: you? Yeah.
Richard Simmons: through all the standards
Roosevelt Torres: Mm mm
Richard Simmons: you know,
Roosevelt Torres: mm mm.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Richard Simmons: where are the limit of standards for all of them and you can just browse through them.
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: So given we are going for this uh uh universal type uh m maybe it is good when you try to find out which components you therefore need and
Marvin Lovitt: Yes.
Roosevelt Torres: y you will
Samuel Craft: Mm.
Roosevelt Torres: try to get more specific uh user interface
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: content
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: and uh maybe you can look on on what trends are in
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm
Roosevelt Torres: this uh
Samuel Craft: yep.
Roosevelt Torres: in this type of market.
Richard Simmons: Voila. Hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: So
Richard Simmons: So.
Roosevelt Torres: anyone uh has
Richard Simmons: Well.
Roosevelt Torres: a point to bring in or shall
Richard Simmons: Oh
Roosevelt Torres: we
Richard Simmons: I don't
Roosevelt Torres: no.
Richard Simmons: have anything right now. We can
Marvin Lovitt: Oh that's that's
Roosevelt Torres: Okay.
Marvin Lovitt: fine
Richard Simmons: we'll
Marvin Lovitt: then.
Richard Simmons: we'll go and we'll I'm sure we'll up something
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: W
Richard Simmons: good for
Roosevelt Torres: yes,
Richard Simmons: the
Marvin Lovitt: Yeah.
Roosevelt Torres: we uh we can have lunch now.
Samuel Craft: Mm-hmm.
Roosevelt Torres: So um
Richard Simmons: Yeah so we
Roosevelt Torres: Then
Richard Simmons: meet in
Roosevelt Torres: th
Richard Simmons: well what
Roosevelt Torres: th
Richard Simmons: are our
Roosevelt Torres: the next meeting will uh after lunch you have uh we have uh thirty minutes of work and then we have the next meeting. But you will be informed via the computer.
Richard Simmons: Okay.
Roosevelt Torres: Okay.
Richard Simmons: Cool.
Marvin Lovitt: Okay
Richard Simmons: So
Marvin Lovitt: perfect.
Richard Simmons: see you later. | Roosevelt Torres opens the meeting and presents the agenda using slides. Samuel Craft explains the research she read about, which is a study done on 100 people asking their remote usage habits and preferences. Marvin Lovitt presents, explaining the basic function of a remote control and how it works. He says they should first agree on the technical functions before he creates working design and chooses the chips and infrared components to build it. The Interface Designer gives his presentation, talking about the remote's technical function of sending a message to the TV set that is decoded by the TV. Standard TV remotes have an on/off button, play, volume change, number keypad, and a 1 or 2 digit option. He suggests that in aiming for the next generation they should have a remote for the TV and video integrated together. Roosevelt Torres recieves a message from account manager, which he shares with the group. They discuss and determine the target group as well as the possibility of making a universal remote for stereo, VCR, and TV. They close the meeting with Roosevelt Torres telling each group member what they will do before the next meeting. | 3 | amisum | test |
James Boyland: Afternoon guys. It's gonna be.
Rodney Reed: Rock and roll.
James Boyland: Oh. 'Kay.
Rodney Reed: So do we need to re-train Mike on how to put his mic on?
Sheldon Guy: Think
James Boyland: We may
Rodney Reed: Okay,
Sheldon Guy: s
James Boyland: do.
Rodney Reed: can he get it all by himself this time?
James Boyland: I dunno,
Sheldon Guy: Mm.
James Boyland: I'm feeling like a
Sheldon Guy: Pro
James Boyland: big boy.
Sheldon Guy: Probably not, been
Rodney Reed: So
Sheldon Guy: listening too much. He's
Rodney Reed: I believe
Sheldon Guy: getting
Rodney Reed: I
Sheldon Guy: retarded.
Rodney Reed: can fly.
Charles Medley: Alright
Sheldon Guy: Yay.
Charles Medley: well we got some exciting stuff for you guys.
Sheldon Guy: Or not.
Charles Medley: Or not.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: Just what I needed was something exciting. Remember, I'm an old man.
James Boyland: 'Kay, ready to go?
Charles Medley: All ready.
James Boyland: 'Kay so
Sheldon Guy: Apparently
James Boyland: we've
Sheldon Guy: I'm
James Boyland: got
Sheldon Guy: old as
James Boyland: our
Sheldon Guy: well.
James Boyland: conceptual design meeting. Hopefully we've
Rodney Reed: Thirty's
James Boyland: all got exciting
Rodney Reed: really young,
James Boyland: ideas
Rodney Reed: eh?
James Boyland: now.
Charles Medley: We do.
James Boyland: Uh k exciting ideas. 'Kay so here's our agenda our agenda. Um I'm gonna open. I'm gonna talk for a bit about what we're gonna do. I'm gonna take some notes. We're gonna all do a presentation, then we're gonna make some decisions now. Yep.
Charles Medley: Alright.
James Boyland: Well when I say hopefully, we have to. So I'm gonna let you guys talk before we make decisions. And does anyone really want to go first?
Charles Medley: I guess I'll go first.
James Boyland: You p two?
Charles Medley: Yeah.
James Boyland: What's
Charles Medley: Component, I think.
James Boyland: Components
Charles Medley: Yeah.
James Boyland: design.
Charles Medley: Yep that's it.
Sheldon Guy: Presented by name.
Charles Medley: My name is.
Rodney Reed: Jose he
James Boyland: Your
Rodney Reed: man
James Boyland: name
Rodney Reed: is.
James Boyland: is name?
Charles Medley: My name is name.
James Boyland: Huh hi
Sheldon Guy: My
James Boyland: name.
Sheldon Guy: name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father.
Charles Medley: Sorry
Sheldon Guy: Prepare
Charles Medley: I did this
Sheldon Guy: to
Charles Medley: in a bit of a rush.
Rodney Reed: N name.
Charles Medley: So
James Boyland: Right.
Sheldon Guy: die.
Charles Medley: so here's a look inside your really old-looking remote control. Um you've got a printed a printed uh circuit board here, and you've got all these buttons which kinda press little rubber nubbies little holes that
James Boyland: We've all
Charles Medley: activate
James Boyland: broke a remote control ri um s
Charles Medley: Yeah
James Boyland: yeah.
Rodney Reed: I've
Charles Medley: we've all broken a remote control. So you've also got um you've got your chip here, your batteries here, and some sorta electronics. Um
Rodney Reed: I just love you tech guys, huh. They just
Sheldon Guy: Yeah there's a thingy and
Rodney Reed: Yeah
Sheldon Guy: a dingy
Charles Medley: Well
Rodney Reed: y
Sheldon Guy: and
Rodney Reed: do jabber.
James Boyland: You press
Charles Medley: so
James Boyland: this and
Charles Medley: you've
James Boyland: it does
Charles Medley: got
James Boyland: th
Charles Medley: here's here's a transistor, and this amplifies your signal, um you've got the L_E_D_ here on the end of the uh uh on the end of the printed circuit board. Um you've got a couple diodes here for I don't know who and whatnot.
James Boyland: I dunno
Charles Medley: So
James Boyland: who and whatnot.
Charles Medley: exactly.
Sheldon Guy: Nah.
Charles Medley: So um we've got a i in this in this uh drawing
Rodney Reed: P
Charles Medley: he uh in this example here, this is a eighteen pin um uh chip
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
Charles Medley: I dunno. Uh it's two double A_ batteries. This is pretty standard remote. So here are options for our power sources. You can use a basic battery, which we've already discussed, um th our tech department also said we have the option of doing some kind of hand dynamo where maybe you crank it or something like that. I
James Boyland: 'Kay.
Charles Medley: don't know if that's really
Sheldon Guy: I wanna change that.
Charles Medley: I don't know we got some qu crazy guys down there in that department so
James Boyland: Okay.
Rodney Reed: I gotta gotta flashlight, and uh
Charles Medley: You shake it.
Rodney Reed: yeah but it's interesting 'cause you shake it like this. Like this.
Charles Medley: Yeah. So that's the next bullet is the
Rodney Reed: And
Charles Medley: um
Rodney Reed: that's on the camera.
Charles Medley: the kinetic provision of energy, so it's like that flashlight where you have to shake it.
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
James Boyland: 'Kay.
Charles Medley: Uh we've got solar cells, which I don't think is a very good idea because um you could not use your remote at night which doesn't make a lot of sense.
James Boyland: Mm 'kay.
Charles Medley: And finally we've got our cradle o our power cradle idea.
James Boyland: Okay so we basically have battery versus cradle
Charles Medley: M
James Boyland: here?
Charles Medley: battery versus cradle I think
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: is yeah.
Sheldon Guy: I like the kinetic.
James Boyland: So
Rodney Reed: I
James Boyland: we have
Rodney Reed: g I
James Boyland: battery
Rodney Reed: I figured
James Boyland: versus
Charles Medley: It
Rodney Reed: you
Charles Medley: could
James Boyland: cradle
Charles Medley: be
Rodney Reed: would.
Charles Medley: fun.
Rodney Reed: Yes. Yeah.
James Boyland: It's actually a novel thing because you could sell it a as a novelty, just to be actually serious
Charles Medley: Yeah.
James Boyland: for a minute here, you
Charles Medley: Well
James Boyland: could
Charles Medley: it is it is more uh I mean it is more eco-friendly than the than the cradle 'cause you're still using
James Boyland: Mm.
Charles Medley: power off the grid with the cradle. So
James Boyland: Hmm.
Charles Medley: um our case design. We have uh choices in materials and choices in the general shapes that we can do. Our material choices are a plastic latex um ty or plastic, a rubber latex type thing, uh wood, or titanium. If we go with titanium we're gonna be uh limited in the amount of shapes we can do because it's tough to shape the titanium, and uh Yeah pers
James Boyland: Wood wood would ge would give us a little bit of a marketing niche, wouldn't it.
Charles Medley: I think wood i
James Boyland: Nah.
Charles Medley: I I can't see anybody
Rodney Reed: It it
Charles Medley: wanting
Rodney Reed: it
Charles Medley: to use a wooden remote, it's
Rodney Reed: Uh.
Charles Medley: just
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: anti-technology really, you know.
James Boyland: Hmm.
Rodney Reed: Uh uh to Rodney Reed in a marketing sense it's not it's not relative. We can we can o we can uh accentuate whatever whatever product you put in there we can find
Charles Medley: Right.
Rodney Reed: a way to accentuate
Charles Medley: And what
Rodney Reed: it.
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: we may be able to do, and I think this might be the best option is to combine some a couple of these. Um my recommendation personally would be to do some kind of a plastic inner shell with a like a rubber outer shell, to make it um to mak uh like a thick plastic inner shell and a t um kind of a to have that rubber outer shell to make it more durable, and also maybe i I think it feels a little better than the plastic.
James Boyland: 'Kay. Do you get a good grip on the rubber?
Charles Medley: Yeah
James Boyland: Yeah okay.
Rodney Reed: And
Charles Medley: um
Rodney Reed: if you make it from that super rubber, when you drop it on the floor it can bounce right back up in your hand.
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: You don't even need to lean down to get it.
Charles Medley: The advantages of working with plastic and rubber is w we we'll have a lot more um options just in terms of shape because you can extrude plastic in basically any shape you want. So um and then we can cover you know the breakable bits with rubber yeah so um
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: But basically these are curved and double-curved I I believe that the tech department, in their um in their message to Rodney Reed, that they were referring to the number of th curves in the bottom. I have no idea exactly what they're talking about, but that's
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: what they told Rodney Reed, uncurved, flat, curved, or double-curved. I would guess this like this pen would be kinda like a double-curved, where it's curved on m m multiple axes, right? I think curved means just curved in one axis and double-curved is curved in two axes
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: or surfaces. I
James Boyland: I
Charles Medley: have
James Boyland: think
Charles Medley: no
James Boyland: it
Charles Medley: idea.
James Boyland: might mean something like that sorta shape because a double curve rather
Rodney Reed: Mm-hmm
James Boyland: than
Rodney Reed: yeah
James Boyland: a
Charles Medley: Oh
Rodney Reed: that's
Charles Medley: okay
James Boyland: yeah that's
Rodney Reed: yeah
Charles Medley: oh
Rodney Reed: that's
Charles Medley: like
Rodney Reed: what
Charles Medley: a
Rodney Reed: I
Charles Medley: wave,
Rodney Reed: see.
James Boyland: what.
Charles Medley: okay.
Rodney Reed: Yeah
Charles Medley: Alright
Rodney Reed: that's what I see
Charles Medley: that
Rodney Reed: also.
Charles Medley: makes sense okay. Um okay, with the interface we have the following options, we can u we can use push buttons, we can use a scroll wheel with an integrated push button, and
Rodney Reed: Ooh.
Charles Medley: L_C_D_ display, or multiple scrolling wheels. Um so these are all options that the user interface guy can uh has at his disposal to put together a user interface.
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: For electronics, we have these very technical um descriptions here. A simple chip, which is the least expensive, but I have no numbers to give you, a regular chip, which is like the medium porridge the medium
James Boyland: D do we have actually
Charles Medley: expense
James Boyland: any
Charles Medley: uh
James Boyland: concept of what the difference is between a simple chip and an advanced chip?
Charles Medley: Yes the difference is, with a simple chip a simple chip will operate oh why doesn't this scroll up? Previous previous, okay. Um
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: an advanced chip is required to to operate um the L_C_D_ display, and it didn't say specifically, but I I have a hunch that a regular chip is gonna be the scroll wheel and the multiple scroll wheels.
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: So but yeah.
James Boyland: Yeah that makes sense.
Charles Medley: That's the
James Boyland: So
Charles Medley: end of my presentation.
James Boyland: presentation from I guess design would go best. Next.
James Boyland: Technical functions or interface concept?
Charles Medley: I think
Sheldon Guy: Oh interface concept.
James Boyland: Yeah that's it. Yes, but it has your name on it.
Sheldon Guy: Well that doesn't bo bode well for it for it tats as well. Um so, somehow that thing's too big, but um okay um our uh manufacturing division wanted the speech recognition. They say they could put it to work but um we don't think so.
Charles Medley: No.
Sheldon Guy: No. It it it you'll be you know be affected by
Charles Medley: If
Sheldon Guy: the by
Charles Medley: the
Sheldon Guy: the other
Charles Medley: T_V_
Sheldon Guy: speech
Charles Medley: is working,
Sheldon Guy: and
Charles Medley: yeah. That's just I mean it'll if somebody says up in the middle of a television show, it's gonna change the channel.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah and and fighting
Charles Medley: So
Sheldon Guy: for the remote would not be fun anymore, and I think that's one of the things we
James Boyland: But
Sheldon Guy: wanna
James Boyland: what if
Sheldon Guy: keep.
James Boyland: you actually had to press a button to make it recognize? So if you pressed it and went, up?
Sheldon Guy: That kinda would
Charles Medley: Well then why don't
Sheldon Guy: r
Charles Medley: you just press the up
Sheldon Guy: d
Charles Medley: button?
Sheldon Guy: yeah.
James Boyland: Man yeah.
Sheldon Guy: That would kind of lose
James Boyland: But if it's just
Sheldon Guy: it.
James Boyland: one thing with a button that you can just go
Rodney Reed: That's right.
Charles Medley: Even
James Boyland: Up.
Charles Medley: still there's gonna be interf th there's there still will be interference from the T_V_. It
James Boyland: Yeah, okay.
Charles Medley: might not be it might not be completely confusing, but I think you'll still y it's still I don't think it's practical at all. I think it's a bad idea frankly.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah
James Boyland: Okay.
Sheldon Guy: so um taking that away, our uh
James Boyland: You guys know your stuff.
Sheldon Guy: the the the rubber but rubber buttons are the more reliable it's the the ones that would al would allow us to to market our product as being you know less prone to damage and more resistant to things like spillage of liquids over it or you know mistreat misuses as it happens to remote controls. Um as for the point that we making about losing it. Well, we wanna small r remote control one side because uh we want it to be cool and uh designed, but um apparently um market shows that bigger s bigger um remotes get less lost,
Charles Medley: That I
Sheldon Guy: about
Charles Medley: would believe.
Rodney Reed: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: Mm.
Sheldon Guy: But um yeah I think we we need to compromise between those two and somehow we'll do that. Somehow. Um so the the what I would propose is something more or less in the uh direction of what is to yo the right of that slide uh but without with a l a less complicated um design, so the numbers, the volume control, and channel control, and teletext access. Uh the volume and channel control can just become those the the four button array as in if it was a round dial.
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
Sheldon Guy: And um if you just think about it as the one to the right but with the numbers and the four buttons plus maybe a centre one with teletext.
James Boyland: So we're suggesting doing a sorta scroll wheel thing for the volume?
Sheldon Guy: Ye no it's
Charles Medley: That's
Sheldon Guy: not
Charles Medley: not
Sheldon Guy: i
Charles Medley: a
Sheldon Guy: i
Charles Medley: scroll wheel.
Sheldon Guy: it's just
James Boyland: Nah.
Sheldon Guy: four buttons that are on a cross,
James Boyland: Oh okay
Sheldon Guy: so
James Boyland: okay.
Sheldon Guy: that you
James Boyland: I
Sheldon Guy: ba
James Boyland: see.
Sheldon Guy: basically can control all of the
Charles Medley: Right.
Sheldon Guy: important tasks from that alone.
Charles Medley: Instead of
James Boyland: Uh,
Charles Medley: play,
James Boyland: okay.
Charles Medley: stop, rewind, and fast forward there, that's up, down, louder, and quieter.
James Boyland: Okay.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah um yeah so I think we w we go for something mid-sized, so something looks good and uh is not too prone to get lost. That be it.
James Boyland: 'Kay. So on to
James Boyland: Y functional requirements or trend watching?
Rodney Reed: I dunno.
Charles Medley: Trend watching
Rodney Reed: Trend
Charles Medley: has
Rodney Reed: watching
Charles Medley: a later
Rodney Reed: I guess.
Charles Medley: date there.
Rodney Reed: Trend watching I believe.
James Boyland: forty six nineteen fifty seven.
Rodney Reed: See
James Boyland: Yep.
Rodney Reed: what it looks like. It's been so long. Well I don't know what to say. When I s when I see the when I see the product I I I I don't wanna buy it. I see so many of 'em out there. There's nothing about that product that makes Rodney Reed wanna choose that product over other products that are out there.
Charles Medley: Are you talking about the picture?
Rodney Reed: Yeah yeah.
Charles Medley: That's not our that's not our b design, that's just
Rodney Reed: Okay.
Charles Medley: a that's just something he a a graphic he used to show you the layout
Rodney Reed: Okay.
Charles Medley: of what the layout of the buttons might be like.
Rodney Reed: Okay 'cause 'cause right now I don't have too much to say about how to market this product because we don't have a product to market yet. And
James Boyland: Mm.
Rodney Reed: uh from from talking to Mike is that we have we have uh we can market a more expensive product now. That's what I understand
James Boyland: Upper
Rodney Reed: so,
James Boyland: management said yes.
Rodney Reed: hello.
James Boyland: Uh e excuse that, that's a bit of spam.
Rodney Reed: And and so yeah I'm a I'm a little bit stuck right now in that what uh w what is it that I'm gonna market? Uh without special or increased marketable features I don't believe the product has a consumer demand. Uh I like the idea of of the scroll makin there are so many people making these products at this price right now. What are we gonna do to make this one special and unique?
Charles Medley: What's special and unique about a scroll?
Rodney Reed: Uh well I don't
James Boyland: It's cool.
Rodney Reed: yeah it's I I just see it as different. I don't say it's specially mm I don't say it's special. Uh I say that it's different I what I'm looking for as marketing is m give Rodney Reed something different. I give Rodney Reed a lower price, give Rodney Reed a higher price, give Rodney Reed some new technology, don't give Rodney Reed the same thing that everybody else is putting out there on the shelf it's f at the same price. I need something to market about this thing. We're we're a new
James Boyland: I'd
Rodney Reed: firm.
James Boyland: I'd say though that we if we did make the decision to go with the cradle though,
Rodney Reed: What
James Boyland: the then we
Rodney Reed: i
James Boyland: have that
Rodney Reed: if
James Boyland: as
Rodney Reed: when
James Boyland: well, but
Rodney Reed: when we
James Boyland: wi with
Rodney Reed: have
James Boyland: a similar
Rodney Reed: yeah when we when we have something like the cradle or or something give that's as as a marketing standard I need something to market, to make
Charles Medley: Well
Rodney Reed: this product unique.
Charles Medley: right I think the two big th points that we have so far are the having the cradle and also having uh the um the actual design of the uh case itself having like this like rubber shell maybe with a plastic
Rodney Reed: Yep.
Charles Medley: interior, having it look really nice um and also be really durable.
Rodney Reed: Mm 'kay. Just remember when I made up this report I didn't have the information that we're discussing here.
Charles Medley: Right
James Boyland: Mm.
Charles Medley: yeah.
Rodney Reed: And
James Boyland: Course.
Rodney Reed: and
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: so so uh yeah when we have a cradle, when we have some kind of design, so what I'm saying is, from my perspective, I don't have a product to market right now. Um uh my personal preference is that we make some adjustment in the cost, either lower or develop an integrated new technol technology. That's that is the next step, there's technology and then there is technology,
James Boyland: Yeah
Rodney Reed: which
James Boyland: 'cause
Rodney Reed: we're
James Boyland: that's.
Rodney Reed: moving into the next phase. And so uh we're gonna have some new technology to enhance the marketability. Yeah uh again I'm not sold on the product because we don't have a product in my opinion
James Boyland: Mm.
Rodney Reed: yet. So
James Boyland: Mm 'kay.
Rodney Reed: I
Charles Medley: Well
Rodney Reed: need
Charles Medley: let's
Rodney Reed: a product.
Charles Medley: get a product then.
Rodney Reed: I need a product to market. And I just whatever product you guys put together, we'll find a way to market it. Tha that I'm not concerned with.
James Boyland: So now
Rodney Reed: If you if you give Rodney Reed if you give Rodney Reed a cut-out of what everybody else has then I need to I need to find a lower cost.
James Boyland: So our big questions here really are cradle or not cradle? Do we go basic or do we go for features? Uh d does anyone really wanna do anything with the scroll wheel or should we ditch that
Charles Medley: Well my question
James Boyland: off-hand
Charles Medley: is what
James Boyland: first?
Charles Medley: would the scroll wheel do? Function-wise, what does that do that
James Boyland: Oh but that was in your presentation so wh what would you imagine
Rodney Reed: Yeah
James Boyland: it doing?
Rodney Reed: wh wh what's the wh
Charles Medley: Yeah. Well it's it's just another way to do the exact same thing that the buttons do.
James Boyland: Mm 'kay.
Rodney Reed: Okay now
Sheldon Guy: But
Rodney Reed: what
Sheldon Guy: would
Rodney Reed: I see
Sheldon Guy: we
Rodney Reed: with the scroll wheel is everybody has buttons. So from a marketing standpoint I have I have another door to walk through when we have something that's unique.
James Boyland: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: If it creates something more complex or more expensive, then I don't know if that makes it uh a marketing necessity. But again, from a marketing perspective I want as much new and different about this thing as possible because we're we're co it's a very competitive market.
James Boyland: What I understand about scroll wheels is they're they're quite expensive to
Charles Medley: Yeah.
James Boyland: to make.
Charles Medley: Th
James Boyland: So I d
Charles Medley: they are gonna be more expensive, but on the other hand, I mean, it I mean it is an alternative if if you think that's gonna sell some some uh you know if if we're gonna make up the extra cost by extra sales I think maybe it's worth it to do it, but I mean I would just use if I was gonna do this I would just use the scroll wheel for s channels up and channels down. I don't think volume or do you think volume would be
Sheldon Guy: I dunno. I'll bet first in volume maybe. I dunno.
Charles Medley: No we can we can do multiple scroll wheels but
James Boyland: Well I d I like the idea of basically focusing the my personal preference is focusing the p the product on the idea of the uh the case the the uh dock to put it in to to charge it. We can target like environmentally friendly ideas, that
Rodney Reed: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: sorta things. It s i m makes it easy
Rodney Reed: Yeah yeah.
James Boyland: to market, it's
Rodney Reed: I
James Boyland: easy
Rodney Reed: think
James Boyland: to differentiate
Rodney Reed: it's
James Boyland: the product,
Rodney Reed: that's right.
James Boyland: yeah so.
Rodney Reed: I think so.
James Boyland: And if we we keep the rest in a format that is durable because th th the whole product's gonna need to be more durable th thus
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: because you're not going to be ditching it as often. It's gonna need to be more expensive because of the cradle.
Rodney Reed: Mm.
James Boyland: So if we can market it in terms of
Rodney Reed: Yep.
James Boyland: that and yeah
Rodney Reed: I
James Boyland: well
Rodney Reed: think we got some exclusivity in that, you know, we got something that nobody
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: else has right now, adjustments in the retail or wholesale price if we need to and it also can create it's own demand from it's uniqueness.
James Boyland: So our big decision then is like how do we do um like we have to decide on the details and we have to decide on well n not exactly the details, but d do we have uh What type of casing? I personally like what you were saying about the plastic with the rubber.
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm. I'm thinking yeah something like kinda almost like these pens, you know, where there's you have plastic bits and then it's not really rubber but just kinda like a fused the plastic with rubber on the outside.
James Boyland: Okay. Just a very thin sorta sheet for a a grip, sorta
Charles Medley: Well no
James Boyland: thing
Charles Medley: ma
James Boyland: or
Charles Medley: yeah
James Boyland: for
Charles Medley: maybe a bit more then th is on here but ju just as a kind of an inspiration, these pens I think are are kind of
James Boyland: Okay. So then if we d d do we want to do anything more basic with the uh more advanced with the user interface in terms of do we want to go for um buttons, or do we want if we're ditching the scroll wheels do we want to go L_C_D_? Do we want to give do we want to have anything else on it?
Sheldon Guy: It's only a T_V_.
Charles Medley: Or from from my perspective I think L_C_D_ is a mistake because this is a universal remote and all you're doing I mean it's you're not gonna get any information back from the television, so the only information you can display on this remote is what channel you just sent it at last and there's just not a lot of information, you know, there.
Sheldon Guy: Hmm.
Charles Medley: It
James Boyland: Okay.
Charles Medley: receives no information. So I I don't see any reason for having an L_C_D_ 'cause it's an increased cost. Unless
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
Charles Medley: you can think of something interesting to do with it.
Rodney Reed: Yeah right now there's right now there's nothing coming out of the T_V_ to receive, so
Charles Medley: Right.
Rodney Reed: you know unless technology changes and information starts coming out of the a cable box or something there's no s I don't see the, I don't see the necessity of an L_C_D_ either. Don't see it.
James Boyland: Okay so the question is now I guess we need t to decide on well y you guys basically have to now go and figure out the details of this thing. of marketing and uh project management are are there any other questions that we need to answer now before you guys can go and build this? What what overall things have we not decided on?
Charles Medley: Well we have to I think for Rodney Reed it's still not exactly clear exactly what the inter user interface is gonna be. There's the scroll wheel, in or out? What do you guys like in the user interface?
James Boyland: I think maybe in terms of marketing, is that gonna make enough of a
Rodney Reed: Again.
James Boyland: difference to justify the cost?
Rodney Reed: Well I think it's it's the more uniqueness you can bring to the product, the easier it is, I believe, for Rodney Reed to market. Uh again the push-buttons I I see are are everywhere. And so we can go with the same thing, but we're gonna be com competing in a in a broader market than if we go with something unique. You know the other thing I thought about was you know, do we go to something like this? Make a remote that doesn't look like a remote. It's just another it's just a an idea, and I don't know
Charles Medley: Well I dunno about like the flip-phone idea, because I think, as far as durability th it's not a big well
Rodney Reed: I
Charles Medley: maybe
Rodney Reed: mean what
Charles Medley: when
Rodney Reed: I
Charles Medley: it's
Rodney Reed: see
Charles Medley: closed.
Rodney Reed: one of the things one of the things you brought up in
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: an earlier presentation is, when you got children, their their stuff gets inside the circuitry, they get dirty, they get messy with drinks and stuff. This
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: And what I keep throwing out there I just keep throwing out ideas to try to make this thing look or act or in some way identify itself as unique or different.
Sheldon Guy: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: But you guys are the ones that have to c ultimately create the product within cost.
James Boyland: Yeah and I guess th th the question th th that you're being asked right now is whether is the dock enough of a unique feature to be able to go out and sell that a a as a a very different product, or do we really need the scroll wheel as well? Because
Rodney Reed: Oh
James Boyland: the scroll
Rodney Reed: okay
James Boyland: wheel comes at quite
Rodney Reed: phew.
James Boyland: a cost.
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: I think you gotta g get into cost effectiveness. I think if you can have the base station with a with a locator, I think those are two very strong features, if
Charles Medley: Well
Rodney Reed: that's something that can be integrated
Charles Medley: The
Rodney Reed: without a bunch of extra cost.
Charles Medley: The locator's gonna require a radio transmitter, which
Rodney Reed: Mm-hmm.
Charles Medley: will
James Boyland: That's gonna n is that gonna need a better chip as well?
Charles Medley: Um
Sheldon Guy: No
Charles Medley: we're
Sheldon Guy: it's
Charles Medley: probably
Sheldon Guy: just
Charles Medley: gonna
Sheldon Guy: different.
Charles Medley: have to go with a like a medium chip, s I would imagine. But we I we will need a receiver, an antenna.
Rodney Reed: Integrated, yeah.
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: So it's just uh I I think that's
Charles Medley: It should be a really simple signal though so
Rodney Reed: I know personally that would be a very attractive feature, is to have a uh have a button I can push to find my remote control.
James Boyland: And it's presumably gonna need a little speaker in it or something like that as well to beep.
Charles Medley: That's true yeah.
James Boyland: But I guess a little tiny speaker is gonna be quite cheap, it's not gonna need q quality,
Charles Medley: Oh yeah
James Boyland: is it? It's
Charles Medley: yeah. It'll be really cheap.
Rodney Reed: Or maybe you can like have a a smell-o-rama, you know you push a button and it s puts out a stink. You can
Sheldon Guy: Maybe not.
James Boyland: Makes your living room more fresh as
Rodney Reed: Yeah
James Boyland: you watch.
Rodney Reed: yeah yeah yeah.
James Boyland: Okay we're
Sheldon Guy: S
James Boyland: doing well for time here. Um we've got about another ten minutes. I think that uh
Charles Medley: So the scroll wheel, in or out?
James Boyland: Mm pr my personal preference is out. I don't think the cost is justified for a little bit more uniqueness when we already have that, and I don't s think
Sheldon Guy: Yeah.
James Boyland: it's obvious and natural how it would be used.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah I think we have like and it's not very usable and it will bring down the robustness of the whole thing, 'cause
James Boyland: Mm.
Sheldon Guy: it's
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
Sheldon Guy: it it breaks down easier.
Charles Medley: For Rodney Reed I think the scroll wheel actually might not be so bad. I don't know exactly what the increased cost is gonna be, but I think he does have a point, i it might push somebody over the edge when they're looking at our at our remote versus something else, when they see this one has a scroll wheel to go up and down on the channels. I think it might be kinda neat to be able to do it like that.
James Boyland: But
Rodney Reed: W
James Boyland: then that that surely d depends a little on the T_V_ because some T_V_s are quite slow at changing channels from
Charles Medley: Sure.
James Boyland: like so if you've got a scroll wheel and you s you have to scroll scroll it really really slowly just so that you're actually keeping in pace with the T_V_'s ability to to change channels. Or
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
James Boyland: do you have to go through and you wait for it? You scroll it a bunch of times and you wait
Charles Medley: Well
James Boyland: for
Charles Medley: I
James Boyland: it
Charles Medley: think
James Boyland: to
Charles Medley: wh what it would be is like like the m like this, where it's maybe you know a digital wheel,
James Boyland: Mm.
Charles Medley: right, where it's where it's quantized into you know certain
Rodney Reed: Oh
James Boyland: Uh
Rodney Reed: yeah.
James Boyland: I see I see. That's where you
Rodney Reed: Yeah.
Charles Medley: That was that was my my intuition
James Boyland: Ah I see
Charles Medley: of what the
James Boyland: I see
Charles Medley: scroll
James Boyland: what you're
Charles Medley: wheel
James Boyland: talking
Charles Medley: would be.
James Boyland: about now. Okay.
Charles Medley: It's just it's basically it it's just a f look and feel thing. It has the same exact functionality as two buttons.
Rodney Reed: I I think there's you know that uh there are so many people today that are that are surfing are television surfers, and I see the scroll as a as a great mechanism for surfing. Instead
James Boyland: Yeah
Rodney Reed: of going
James Boyland: if you're
Rodney Reed: button-to-bu
James Boyland: just sitting there going
Rodney Reed: you just j you'd j j j j j j.
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: I
James Boyland: That's
Rodney Reed: really
James Boyland: kinda cool actually.
Rodney Reed: I really think
James Boyland: I like
Rodney Reed: that's
James Boyland: that.
Rodney Reed: a really cool thing for surfing.
Charles Medley: Now just just so you know though uh you did bring up a point which is very valid, is a lot of T_V_s won't re the T_V_s won't respond exactly the same. Some of them are gonna be kinda slow switching, so you may like queue up like fifteen channel changes, and it'll be like flip, flip, flip.
Rodney Reed: Well there's
Charles Medley: But
Rodney Reed: ano
James Boyland: Well not n necessarily. You could basically make it so that it'll I mean it's just gonna be sending a signal to the T_V_ yeah
Charles Medley: Right.
James Boyland: the T_V_'s
Rodney Reed: That's right.
James Boyland: ge so if you send about five flip channels, if you did that it's gonna flip once. If
Charles Medley: Yeah
James Boyland: you
Charles Medley: it
James Boyland: do
Charles Medley: just
James Boyland: that.
Charles Medley: might be frustrating where you
James Boyland: Other
Charles Medley: can't
James Boyland: than
Charles Medley: make
James Boyland: click
Charles Medley: it go
James Boyland: click
Charles Medley: as fast
James Boyland: click.
Charles Medley: as you want, but I think
James Boyland: Yeah.
Charles Medley: once people get used to it I I do like the idea of the scroll wheel though.
James Boyland: And if we're marketing it as a high niche product, then we're gonna be selling it to people who are buying good T_V_s as well, yeah, presumably.
Sheldon Guy: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: Yeah I think
James Boyland: Primarily.
Rodney Reed: so. I I
Sheldon Guy: Yep.
Rodney Reed: think so. Now the the only thing I I on the interface side of it, is that I I I see the dilemma. But if we have the option of of scrolling at any particular speed, or the option of jumping direct, okay.
James Boyland: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: So I can go uh presuming I have, on my television, something that tells Rodney Reed what channel I'm on, I can scroll direct from channel five to channel thirty two. I know what because it's on the television. The television tells Rodney Reed what channel it's on when I change it. So I don't know that really that's that's gonna be a a d problem, 'cause the television can go automatically from channel five to channel thirty two with the push of a button.
James Boyland: Mm-hmm.
Rodney Reed: Okay? So ca can we can we create that kind of interface within a scroll system? You understand what I'm saying?
Charles Medley: I think I know what you might be getting at, or
James Boyland: Oh
Charles Medley: or
James Boyland: I see so if maybe if we had an L_C_D_ up the top that just did a number on it, right?
Rodney Reed: Oh
James Boyland: And
Rodney Reed: no
James Boyland: then
Rodney Reed: we
James Boyland: it
Rodney Reed: could read
James Boyland: that
Rodney Reed: it
James Boyland: basically
Rodney Reed: from
Charles Medley: Well,
Rodney Reed: the television.
Charles Medley: what about this what
James Boyland: Mm.
Charles Medley: about if you can programme in your favourite channels into this scroll wheel and you can just like roll through your favourite channels,
James Boyland: Well that's
Charles Medley: and
James Boyland: quite
Charles Medley: it c
James Boyland: cool. You'd
Charles Medley: it
James Boyland: need a display on the th
Charles Medley: Why?
James Boyland: the thing.
Charles Medley: It'll tell you when you flip the
Rodney Reed: Yeah
Charles Medley: channel
Rodney Reed: the
Charles Medley: on the
Rodney Reed: the television
Charles Medley: T_V_.
Rodney Reed: can tell you.
Charles Medley: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: Can.
James Boyland: Oh yeah yeah no I see what you're talking about. Yeah that's kinda cool. How would you program it though?
Charles Medley: Well you just it's one extra button. You
Rodney Reed: Put
Charles Medley: say programme start, and then type in 'cause you still have the typing you know you'll still have the keypad where you
James Boyland: Okay
Charles Medley: can type
James Boyland: okay.
Charles Medley: 'em in manually. So programme start, zero, one, enter, zero, five, enter, thirty eight, enter, programme end.
Rodney Reed: And then.
James Boyland: Okay and yeah and that just basically flips between it and it'll go
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: it sends out zero, five, and then thirty six, and then
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: zero, one again. Yeah that's kinda cool. I like that.
Rodney Reed: And again we have another another great marketing tool. We have about three we have three or four
James Boyland: That's
Rodney Reed: things
James Boyland: not
Rodney Reed: here.
James Boyland: gonna be too expensive because that's gonna be you're gonna be able to nab that off of computer mouse manufacturers really.
Charles Medley: Mm-hmm.
James Boyland: You could basically come up with a partnership to be able to produce that quite cheaply.
Rodney Reed: I dunno and
Sheldon Guy: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: an maybe we maybe even have this as in-house technology. This may be something that's available through our own uh through our own services.
James Boyland: Might be, but tha that's not gonna be such a costly feature. The problem we're gonna have is making it robust.
Charles Medley: Oh well
James Boyland: Making
Charles Medley: we also
James Boyland: it last.
Charles Medley: have to determine in some manner how to switch between modes, between going through your favourites list and just hitting up one, up
Rodney Reed: Or
Charles Medley: two.
Rodney Reed: we go directional up
James Boyland: So if there's
Rodney Reed: we
James Boyland: a button
Rodney Reed: go we go
James Boyland: for
Rodney Reed: this
James Boyland: each
Rodney Reed: we
James Boyland: type.
Rodney Reed: go this we go this way for one, we go this way for the other.
Charles Medley: No because you wanna be able to go up and down through the channels.
James Boyland: Yeah people are gonna
Rodney Reed: Ah-ha
James Boyland: have their favourite
Rodney Reed: okay.
James Boyland: sorta, whether
Rodney Reed: Okay,
James Boyland: they do that
Rodney Reed: okay,
James Boyland: or whether they
Rodney Reed: well then you
Charles Medley: Right.
Rodney Reed: just have, you have a diff you have a mode
Charles Medley: I think
Rodney Reed: switch.
James Boyland: Yeah
Charles Medley: we'll need
James Boyland: yeah
Charles Medley: a
James Boyland: the mode switch.
Charles Medley: we'll need a mode switch, but then if we have a mode switch we're gonna need some kinda indicator
James Boyland: Just
Charles Medley: to
James Boyland: the
Charles Medley: which,
James Boyland: lights behind
Charles Medley: an
James Boyland: the
Charles Medley: L_E_
James Boyland: buttons. You
Charles Medley: an
James Boyland: could have
Charles Medley: L_E_D_
James Boyland: back-lit buttons maybe.
Charles Medley: okay.
James Boyland: Would
Sheldon Guy: Yeah.
James Boyland: that work? Is
Charles Medley: Okay.
James Boyland: that okay we have five minutes. So right details th that we've talked about here are that we want a scroll wheel. We want a mode indicator. We want back-lit buttons. And if we're making back-lit buttons period, do we want that just for the mode indicator or maybe to indicate what button you're pressing at the time, so that you know if it's actually pressed or not. I've seen some remotes do that.
Charles Medley: Okay. Just so you know I think I mean it was my understanding that before we were gonna stay in the mid-market range. It seems we're kind of approaching a higher-end
Rodney Reed: Yeah
Charles Medley: range.
Rodney Reed: yeah.
James Boyland: I think
Charles Medley: I wanna make
James Boyland: we
Charles Medley: sure
James Boyland: are
Charles Medley: everybody's
James Boyland: yeah.
Charles Medley: okay
Rodney Reed: Well you
Charles Medley: with
Rodney Reed: had acknowledged
Charles Medley: that.
Rodney Reed: that we have more money for this.
James Boyland: Yeah
Rodney Reed: Didn't you
James Boyland: well
Rodney Reed: say
James Boyland: we don't
Rodney Reed: so?
James Boyland: have it's not that we have more money, we can push up the the price.
Rodney Reed: That's what I mean. We can
James Boyland: Yeah.
Rodney Reed: increase the cost.
Charles Medley: Okay.
Rodney Reed: So
James Boyland: 'Kay.
Rodney Reed: I don't know I don't
Charles Medley: I just
Rodney Reed: know
Charles Medley: wanna
Rodney Reed: whether
Charles Medley: make
Rodney Reed: having
Charles Medley: sure everybody's on board with it. So
James Boyland: Yeah. So we really need to be sure as to what we can push the cost up to, though we haven't got to a stage where we're ready to pin down the price of components. But I'd say what sorta price are we looking to be able to sell something like that, and what sorta price can we make it for?
Rodney Reed: Well I think th I think the design and technology has to come back and say, okay to create this product we see it's gonna cost us this much for this volume, because we do have a volume target of of fifty million profit.
James Boyland: Yeah no I I think that's where we really should be more flexible than anything else because as we said in the last meeting, our management is really looking for us to push our brand.
Charles Medley: Right.
James Boyland: We're entering a new market here, so I think the the profit expectation for this one product is maybe not as important as being able to
Rodney Reed: Okay I'm I'm okay with that. I guess what I just want to Rodney Reed the next step is for these guys to come come in with the design proposal w with the cost estimate attached, and then we have to take this to the next
James Boyland: But
Rodney Reed: level.
James Boyland: th what's our ballpark as to what we'd be able to sell something
Charles Medley: Well
James Boyland: like this
Charles Medley: y yeah.
James Boyland: for?
Charles Medley: Let's let's try
Rodney Reed: We have
Charles Medley: and think
Rodney Reed: to find
Charles Medley: now,
Rodney Reed: cost.
Charles Medley: how much would you pay for with all these features how much would you pay if you went to the store, and you were in the market f to replace your T_V_ remote, how much would you pay for that?
James Boyland: But you've gotta think who our target market is because
Charles Medley: I'm just asking
James Boyland: I I'm
Charles Medley: you.
James Boyland: not our target market. I'm a student, but
Charles Medley: If
James Boyland: on the other hand I would think, mm with my Project Manager salary, I
Charles Medley: Then
James Boyland: would
Charles Medley: you could probably
James Boyland: think
Charles Medley: afford
James Boyland: yeah
Charles Medley: this.
James Boyland: I could probably afford this uh would I buy it? Maybe. If I had a cool new T_V_ and this was r looking really slick and it had the dock and it had the scroll wheel, which I think's a really cool idea, that would sell Rodney Reed on it a little. Then maybe you know. I do I don't think I'd go over a hundred Euro certainly,
Charles Medley: Oh
James Boyland: that would
Charles Medley: no
James Boyland: be way
Charles Medley: no.
James Boyland: too much, but the I would be happy paying over forty for it, I guess,
Charles Medley: I would say thirty
James Boyland: but not
Charles Medley: five
James Boyland: much
Charles Medley: to forty.
Rodney Reed: Yeah, I was gonna say thirty five to fifty.
James Boyland: 'Kay. Thirty five to fifty Euros is our sales bracket okay.
Charles Medley: Okay.
James Boyland: So
Rodney Reed: Because
James Boyland: the question
Rodney Reed: one of
James Boyland: is
Rodney Reed: th
James Boyland: what
Rodney Reed: one
James Boyland: we ca
Rodney Reed: of
James Boyland: we
Rodney Reed: the
James Boyland: make
Rodney Reed: things
James Boyland: it
Rodney Reed: we're
James Boyland: for.
Rodney Reed: marketing about this product is that this is the last one you will ever need to buy for
Charles Medley: Right.
Rodney Reed: your television.
James Boyland: Mm.
Rodney Reed: It's one of the marketing features in this.
James Boyland: That's why the scroll needs to be really robust.
Sheldon Guy: Okay so we'll come up with something between thirty five and fifty that is rug rubber, robust, with scroll wheel, with the new facilities of the scroll wheel like favourite stuff, favourite channels,
Rodney Reed: Mm-hmm.
Charles Medley: With
Sheldon Guy: and
Charles Medley: a cradle, radio
Sheldon Guy: and
Charles Medley: transmitters,
Sheldon Guy: with a cradle, and yeah and the locator.
Charles Medley: and back-lit buttons. And it's gonna look sexy.
Sheldon Guy: Or not.
Charles Medley: Or not. It might look like clay.
Sheldon Guy: Okay so you can market
Rodney Reed: Yeah yeah.
Sheldon Guy: pe depending
Rodney Reed: Bas th that's
Sheldon Guy: on that?
Rodney Reed: that's easy. That's that's not a, it's a. 'Cause we have about six, six, seven features in that alone.
James Boyland: Yep.
Rodney Reed: Under
Sheldon Guy: Cool.
Rodney Reed: the title of uniquenesses.
Sheldon Guy: Hmm.
James Boyland: Okay. The next meeting starts in thirty minutes, although does it? It starts at three twenty one, the next meeting. So we've got more than a thirty minutes. Um we've got
Rodney Reed: Well
James Boyland: more
Rodney Reed: I have
James Boyland: like fifty.
Rodney Reed: Is my three twenty one is the next meeting?
James Boyland: The the ne next meeting is three twenty one yeah.
Rodney Reed: That's that's almost uh fifty minutes.
James Boyland: Yeah that is. Uh
Rodney Reed: You guys
James Boyland: they've
Rodney Reed: can
James Boyland: they've changed the times from the presentations.
Rodney Reed: You guys you guys can uh create a All
Charles Medley: Probably.
Rodney Reed: kinds of things.
Charles Medley: We'll let you know when we're done, if we can go earlier.
Rodney Reed: Thanks, yeah.
James Boyland: Okay so you guys will be getting your modelling done now
Charles Medley: Yeah.
James Boyland: and uh Okay are there any other questions with regards to what this thing's gonna do, look like, how it's gonna work that need to be addressed before we really look at this in a lot of detail?
Charles Medley: I don't think so. If we have any questions we'll just email you I guess.
James Boyland: Okay.
Sheldon Guy: Yeah I think it pretty much everything's covered.
James Boyland: Okay. This one was quite easy.
Sheldon Guy: Coulda been worse.
Rodney Reed: Still.
James Boyland: Always the optimist.
Sheldon Guy: Yes I am.
James Boyland: 'Kay thanks guys.
Rodney Reed: Thank you. I don't have any emails. This means I can go home. Oh, we all leave. | Sheldon Guy presented an overview of the internal components of a remote control device. He discussed energy source and material options, and suggested that using rubber and plastic would be the most versatile option. He displayed the three options for chips. Charles Medley discussed voice recognition with the group, and the group decided to not use it in their design. He suggested using rubber buttons because of their durability. He discussed the size of the device and the layout of the interface, and suggested that the remote be moderately sized to prevent its getting lost. Rodney Reed expressed concern that the remote lacked enough features to be distinctive. The group had a discussion to decide on the product features. They decided to include a charging stand, to use a thin rubber casing material, to include a locator function and a scroll wheel with two channel-changing options to increase its usability. The group discussed the cost of the various components and decided to sell the device at a point between thirty-five and fifty Euros. Charles Medley and Sheldon Guy were instructed to construct the prototype. | 3 | amisum | test |
Cesar Maldonado: Mm-hmm So, ready?
William Williams: No
Thomas Heart: 'Kay.
William Williams: not really. Just Crap.
Cesar Maldonado: Sorry I,
William Williams: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: I
Thomas Heart: It's perfect.
Cesar Maldonado: um I'm
John Rowe: Your
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John Rowe: judgement it's is biased.
Cesar Maldonado: Uh thi this remote control will stay a prototype.
William Williams: 'Kay, so whe where is the remote control?
John Rowe: So,
Thomas Heart: Where
John Rowe: we are
Thomas Heart: It's? here.
John Rowe: So
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
John Rowe: let's go for our detailed design meeting.
William Williams: Yep.
John Rowe: So I will still play the role of the secretary, and we'll have um first the project presentation by our
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: User Interface Designer, David Jordan,
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
John Rowe: and our Industrial Designer, Baba.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: 'Kay.
John Rowe: So we'll have to evaluate the uh your proposed remote control, and um have an idea of the price that uh this thing will cost. And in case we're all agree on the fabrica of um building of this remote control, we'll evaluate the um production. So maybe I will let the our two designers talk about so
Thomas Heart: I have slides.
John Rowe: their
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
John Rowe: You have s oh, sorry. Oops.
Thomas Heart: Ah, that is
Cesar Maldonado: Effectively
Thomas Heart: three.
Cesar Maldonado: one slide and maybe we can
Thomas Heart: Product prod
Cesar Maldonado: discuss
William Williams: What
Cesar Maldonado: everything.
William Williams: slides?
Thomas Heart: Yep. Okay. Okay. So, this is our product or prototype. This is made by clay.
John Rowe: Looks strange.
Thomas Heart: Yeah. Uh the basic colour is uh yellow and red. Yellow is uh our company colour,
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: uh red it's uh is more attractive. So we used two basic colour, yellow and red. And the there's two basic shape. The first is a circle and the second is a triangle s piece. It's
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
Thomas Heart: we call it a mushroom design. It's looks like some mushroom,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: so we call it mushroom design.
Cesar Maldonado: Uh
Thomas Heart: So this is a introduction of our product. Next
John Rowe: Genetically
Thomas Heart: a mo
John Rowe: modified mushroom I will say, but
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: keep
Thomas Heart: Okay,
John Rowe: on speaking.
Thomas Heart: yeah, so next slide. So there are several key features of our pr prototype. The first is that it is fuzzy. I'm sure this would be the unique design the market.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: Oh.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah I'm sure.
John Rowe: Maybe, I hope so.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, so it's a fuzzy design, and a unique design.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, that's
Thomas Heart: Um,
Cesar Maldonado: true.
Thomas Heart: and uh the second key feature is that uh s circle channel um selection. In the traditional key uh traditional controller use button to to select the channel but now we have a s circle, so we can turn this ball to t to select channel. So it's quite
John Rowe: Chan
Thomas Heart: convenient for user to use it.
John Rowe: Yeah, okay, but don't
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: touch don't destroy
Thomas Heart: s
John Rowe: your prototype.
Thomas Heart: okay. Uh the third feature is a stable triangle base. Uh this sta uh this triangle base is very stable, so uh so it's it's um it's unlikely you cannot found it. So it's v Um, you can put it in the table so you can turn the the ball to cha to select the channel and there's some cute button. You c can can you can see the the shape of the buttons n is a mushroom, so
John Rowe: Everything's mushroom.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: So
Thomas Heart: everything's
John Rowe: we can
Thomas Heart: mushroom.
John Rowe: call our
Thomas Heart: Mush
John Rowe: remote control the mushroom.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah
Thomas Heart: Mushroom
Cesar Maldonado: but
Thomas Heart: design,
Cesar Maldonado: it's not
Thomas Heart: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: like really mushroom because you have uh you know uh like lemon shape, you know, centre
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: is
John Rowe: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: yellow and
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: t
Thomas Heart: th that's why if
Cesar Maldonado: d
Thomas Heart: you put it in the table, be
Cesar Maldonado: To integrate,
Thomas Heart: careful,
Cesar Maldonado: you
Thomas Heart: somebody
Cesar Maldonado: know yeah.
Thomas Heart: will eat it.
Cesar Maldonado: I don't think I hope nobody will eat it. You know, to integrate the fruit aspect, you know the
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: Oh.
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: the
William Williams: because mushroom
Cesar Maldonado: in
William Williams: was not in the trends. I mean
Cesar Maldonado: Really?
William Williams: there
John Rowe: Fruits
Cesar Maldonado: But
William Williams: was fruits
John Rowe: and vegetables.
William Williams: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Fruit and vegetable, so
John Rowe: Vegetables.
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: mushroom was
John Rowe: Mushroom
Cesar Maldonado: a kind
John Rowe: is a vegetable.
Cesar Maldonado: of you know
William Williams: I don't think
Cesar Maldonado: uh
William Williams: it is.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: It's vegetable.
Cesar Maldonado: Mushroom?
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Mm-hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: Oh, uh I'm not
John Rowe: So
Cesar Maldonado: sure.
John Rowe: th it's something eatable.
Cesar Maldonado: We can
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: it's a veg a kind of vegetable, but you know
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: we we integrated them with different
William Williams: But
Cesar Maldonado: colour.
William Williams: anyway this is not a mushroom anyway, so
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: it's fine.
Cesar Maldonado: I I think we take into account what you said about fruit and vegetable you know. This, you know, very
William Williams: No, I mean,
Cesar Maldonado: enlighted
William Williams: yeah
Cesar Maldonado: colours, you
William Williams: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: know.
William Williams: Inspira inspiration
Cesar Maldonado: And inspired
William Williams: is
Cesar Maldonado: colour and and very sophisticated material, so.
William Williams: True.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: And so
John Rowe: Next slide.
Thomas Heart: Uh, no this our only
Cesar Maldonado: So
Thomas Heart: two
Cesar Maldonado: what
Thomas Heart: slides.
Cesar Maldonado: we w what I can add is that, you know he talk about what is outside,
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: so what is inside is what we dis what we talked before about, you know, the chip, it is a low level chip, and
Thomas Heart: So we cut it to see.
Cesar Maldonado: You know, we don't need to k.
John Rowe: Mm-hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: You know wi the low level chips inside and you know the L_C_D_ button
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: and the
Thomas Heart: So
Cesar Maldonado: i
Thomas Heart: where's the battery battery?
Cesar Maldonado: The battery it is under. It
John Rowe: In the base.
Cesar Maldonado: is in
Thomas Heart: Base.
Cesar Maldonado: th in
John Rowe: In the
Cesar Maldonado: in
John Rowe: basement.
Cesar Maldonado: the base,
Thomas Heart: Here?
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
John Rowe: In the basement. And where is
William Williams: But
John Rowe: the
William Williams: we
John Rowe: solar
William Williams: say uh
John Rowe: solar
William Williams: we sa
John Rowe: cell?
William Williams: we said solar.
John Rowe: Where
Cesar Maldonado: In
John Rowe: is
Cesar Maldonado: fact
John Rowe: the solar
Cesar Maldonado: this
John Rowe: cell?
Cesar Maldonado: this this this is a kind of you know revolutionary solar receptor that we can put outside and
John Rowe: Oh. Do you
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: think it won't be It won't cris increase the price?
Cesar Maldonado: I don't think so,
John Rowe: Okay,
Cesar Maldonado: but it
John Rowe: we'll
Cesar Maldonado: it's
John Rowe: see after.
Cesar Maldonado: might be
John Rowe: We
Cesar Maldonado: okay, so.
John Rowe: will have
Cesar Maldonado: I
John Rowe: first
Cesar Maldonado: it might be
John Rowe: to
Cesar Maldonado: okay.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: So
John Rowe: so, mister money, what's
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: your opinion according to this remote control?
William Williams: I mean, we gonna try to measure how good it is instead of just talking about uh we had three keys key points to uh for this remote control design, and first one was uh
John Rowe: Mm-hmm.
William Williams: fancy look and feel.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: So w we'll try to judge this feature uh with a one to seven scale, one being uh no, I think. Uh just let William Williams check.
Cesar Maldonado: So, four point three point five, it means it's acceptable.
William Williams: One one being true, and seven being false. Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: Oops.
William Williams: Ouch. So
Thomas Heart: Okay.
William Williams: Do we have a fancy look and feel,
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
William Williams: according
Thomas Heart: I
William Williams: to
Thomas Heart: think
William Williams: you?
Thomas Heart: so.
Cesar Maldonado: I think you have nice colours. I don't
William Williams: But is it
Cesar Maldonado: The sha the bowl shape
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: people
Thomas Heart: the shape
Cesar Maldonado: like.
Thomas Heart: is unique, and the colour
William Williams: Uh I'll agree it's unique, but is it really
Thomas Heart: So
Cesar Maldonado: Is
Thomas Heart: it
Cesar Maldonado: it
Thomas Heart: depend
Cesar Maldonado: really
Thomas Heart: on
Cesar Maldonado: fancy?
Thomas Heart: how d do you define fancy.
William Williams: Yeah I mean, fancy was was defined by s fruit and vegetable look.
Cesar Maldonado: But it's you have the lemon aspect of this th this this thing.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: Maybe if you change if you take the buttons out,
Cesar Maldonado: Do Don't
John Rowe: and maybe
Cesar Maldonado: do that,
John Rowe: do
Cesar Maldonado: please.
John Rowe: things like that
William Williams: I dunno where the lemon is, but I mean it's
Cesar Maldonado: I
William Williams: not
Cesar Maldonado: it's
William Williams: obvious.
Cesar Maldonado: it's i this shape is a lemon like, so
John Rowe: It would be bet more like a lemon?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: If
Cesar Maldonado: Because
William Williams: I dunno, maybe
Cesar Maldonado: i
William Williams: improving the texture of like having
John Rowe: Yeah.
William Williams: it less
Cesar Maldonado: Less
William Williams: smooth
Cesar Maldonado: button.
William Williams: or
Thomas Heart: Uh so, my mush.
John Rowe: Looks like more fruit.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: but you
John Rowe: Maybe
Cesar Maldonado: don't have any
John Rowe: a
Cesar Maldonado: button now.
John Rowe: pineapple?
William Williams: Yeah. I dunno.
John Rowe: And you know, you have the finger here,
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: with the buttons?
Thomas Heart: Hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: That's uh yeah, is
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: that
William Williams: it's
Cesar Maldonado: that's
William Williams: getting
Cesar Maldonado: a good idea. So that's great.
John Rowe: It looks more like a pineapple.
Cesar Maldonado: That's
John Rowe: Sorry.
Cesar Maldonado: great.
John Rowe: What's the use for that?
Thomas Heart: Uh, for
Cesar Maldonado: I have
Thomas Heart: turn
Cesar Maldonado: no
Thomas Heart: turn
Cesar Maldonado: idea,
Thomas Heart: the ball.
Cesar Maldonado: so.
Thomas Heart: If you want to turn the ball,
Cesar Maldonado: I have no idea
Thomas Heart: it's very it's very convenient for
Cesar Maldonado: what
Thomas Heart: you to to to turn the ball to change the channel.
William Williams: Okay.
John Rowe: And
Thomas Heart: Uh.
John Rowe: where is the voice recognition?
Thomas Heart: Ah, it's embedded, your microphone.
William Williams: Yeah, that's
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: Th this th th there's two
William Williams: Wait th that's
Thomas Heart: two
William Williams: the
Thomas Heart: functions.
William Williams: second point.
Thomas Heart: This is microphone
William Williams: First one
Thomas Heart: array
William Williams: is we have to judge the
Cesar Maldonado: If it is fancy or not.
William Williams: fancy
John Rowe: Okay.
William Williams: look and feel.
John Rowe: Is it better
William Williams: I mean
John Rowe: like that?
Cesar Maldonado: So
John Rowe: Looks
Cesar Maldonado: we can we can
John Rowe: okay,
Cesar Maldonado: say
John Rowe: let's say it's
Cesar Maldonado: t
John Rowe: a pineapple now.
Cesar Maldonado: The colour, is the colour acceptable?
William Williams: No, the colour is okay, that's fine.
Cesar Maldonado: So the shape
William Williams: I mean
Cesar Maldonado: now.
William Williams: it's
John Rowe: It
William Williams: but
John Rowe: looks
William Williams: I
John Rowe: like
William Williams: would say
John Rowe: a
William Williams: there is more too much red.
John Rowe: now
Cesar Maldonado: It's
John Rowe: you
Cesar Maldonado: too
John Rowe: took
Cesar Maldonado: much
John Rowe: it.
Cesar Maldonado: red?
William Williams: Um
Cesar Maldonado: In
William Williams: if
Cesar Maldonado: the basement?
John Rowe: It looks like a pineapple with cherry on top.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
William Williams: Right. So, from one to seven?
John Rowe: Mm uh
Cesar Maldonado: I will give
John Rowe: Seven
Cesar Maldonado: I will
John Rowe: is the ma the maximum?
William Williams: No,
Cesar Maldonado: I'll
William Williams: seven
Cesar Maldonado: gi
William Williams: is false and one is true.
Cesar Maldonado: I'll give two or three. Three, it's
John Rowe: Three,
Cesar Maldonado: okay.
John Rowe: I will say three.
Cesar Maldonado: Three, three.
William Williams: Three?
Cesar Maldonado: Three is fine for William Williams.
William Williams: Okay.
Thomas Heart: 'Kay.
William Williams: Three.
John Rowe: Isn't it bitter like that?
Thomas Heart: Yeah yeah
William Williams: Then
Thomas Heart: yeah.
William Williams: uh let William Williams
Cesar Maldonado: What other
William Williams: The other criterion is
Cesar Maldonado: Is it easy
William Williams: is it
Cesar Maldonado: to use?
William Williams: technologically uh
John Rowe: Feasible?
William Williams: technologically in innovative.
Cesar Maldonado: Ye uh
John Rowe: You said previously that you there's um microphone inside an
Cesar Maldonado: Embedded.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, this is microphone array, in fact.
Cesar Maldonado: It's a micro
Thomas Heart: There four
Cesar Maldonado: array,
Thomas Heart: microphone.
John Rowe: Oh. Okay,
Cesar Maldonado: okay.
Thomas Heart: So they they they
John Rowe: and
Thomas Heart: they
John Rowe: you
Thomas Heart: there's
John Rowe: have
Thomas Heart: a microphone
John Rowe: the
Thomas Heart: array.
John Rowe: there's the technology inside that recognise simple vocal
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: comments?
Thomas Heart: yeah. So you
John Rowe: And
Thomas Heart: can
John Rowe: you
Thomas Heart: capture
John Rowe: can turn
Thomas Heart: voice
John Rowe: it so
Cesar Maldonado: Oh
Thomas Heart: yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: yeah,
John Rowe: maybe
Thomas Heart: you
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
John Rowe: it's
Thomas Heart: c
John Rowe: techno
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: technologically
Thomas Heart: so you can
Cesar Maldonado: And
John Rowe: innov
Cesar Maldonado: I
Thomas Heart: capture
Cesar Maldonado: think
John Rowe: innovative?
Cesar Maldonado: you you've never seen
Thomas Heart: s voice
Cesar Maldonado: a rou
Thomas Heart: from
Cesar Maldonado: a round
Thomas Heart: different
Cesar Maldonado: remote control, so
Thomas Heart: directions.
Cesar Maldonado: it is
William Williams: Yeah
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: bu but
Cesar Maldonado: I
William Williams: when you say technologically it's more uh
Cesar Maldonado: W
William Williams: I dunno,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, but
William Williams: in the core, or single.
John Rowe: We have tactile buttons.
William Williams: Mm-hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: I see, you have microphone array embedded. You have
William Williams: No, that's good. Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: That's good. And you have, you know this ki this solar
John Rowe: Oh,
Cesar Maldonado: receptor
John Rowe: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: that,
William Williams: Yeah, th
Cesar Maldonado: you
William Williams: that's
Cesar Maldonado: know
William Williams: another
Cesar Maldonado: Yes.
William Williams: really good point.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: Maybe
Cesar Maldonado: I think technically
William Williams: okay.
Cesar Maldonado: it's acceptable, so
John Rowe: Maybe two?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: So using the same scale, two?
John Rowe: Two?
Cesar Maldonado: Two,
John Rowe: I
Cesar Maldonado: yeah, two. It's
John Rowe: would
Cesar Maldonado: it's
John Rowe: say
Cesar Maldonado: fine,
John Rowe: two.
Cesar Maldonado: so.
John Rowe: You agree?
William Williams: Okay.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, I agree.
John Rowe: It's better
William Williams: Now
John Rowe: like
William Williams: maybe
John Rowe: that, isn't
William Williams: the most
John Rowe: it?
William Williams: critical one.
John Rowe: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: Most
William Williams: L last one w I would like to judge is is it easy to use?
Cesar Maldonado: Eh, for th the vocal command yes, it's might be easy. But it's
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: just
Thomas Heart: it's
Cesar Maldonado: speaking.
Thomas Heart: very easy.
Cesar Maldonado: You just need
William Williams: Yeah but
Cesar Maldonado: the
William Williams: this
Cesar Maldonado: command.
Thomas Heart: You
William Williams: this
Thomas Heart: can
William Williams: turning
Thomas Heart: use this in this way.
William Williams: can you can you just re explain William Williams the
Cesar Maldonado: As a principle.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Please.
Thomas Heart: Th this is the base.
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: So you can turn to change the channel.
William Williams: Yeah but how how intuitive is it to turn things
Thomas Heart: You just
William Williams: to change
Thomas Heart: tu
William Williams: channels?
Thomas Heart: turn d
Cesar Maldonado: I
Thomas Heart: d
Cesar Maldonado: think maybe if you
William Williams: Like
Cesar Maldonado: he
William Williams: if you want
John Rowe: Oh,
William Williams: to
John Rowe: ok
William Williams: go from
John Rowe: I understand.
Cesar Maldonado: If you hear some
John Rowe: You take
Cesar Maldonado: click
John Rowe: take the remote, so and you can turn
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: like that to change the channel?
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Yeah but imagine
John Rowe: I
William Williams: you
John Rowe: think
William Williams: y
John Rowe: it's quite easy to so s zapping, but maybe it will be too fast.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, it
William Williams: Yeah
Cesar Maldonado: would
William Williams: I'm I'm no I'm not definitely convinced it's it's the best way to if you wanna jump from, I dunno, one to twenty?
Cesar Maldonado: Oh
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah, that's difficult.
William Williams: How can you
Cesar Maldonado: That's
William Williams: go
Cesar Maldonado: dif that's
William Williams: directly
Cesar Maldonado: difficult.
William Williams: to twenty, for example?
Thomas Heart: No, no, no. I if y
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: uh if it depend on the the angle you turn the
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah
William Williams: I
Cesar Maldonado: but
William Williams: agree.
Cesar Maldonado: y how
William Williams: I agree. But I mean if
Cesar Maldonado: you need to know
Thomas Heart: I if
William Williams: you're
Cesar Maldonado: I
William Williams: fro
Thomas Heart: if
William Williams: from
Thomas Heart: this
William Williams: two?
Thomas Heart: is a channel one. So it c it could be channel
Cesar Maldonado: I think
Thomas Heart: two,
Cesar Maldonado: something
Thomas Heart: channel
Cesar Maldonado: that
Thomas Heart: three, channel
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: four, channel five.
John Rowe: Yeah, you have
Thomas Heart: So
John Rowe: a,
Thomas Heart: change.
John Rowe: like
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: that,
Cesar Maldonado: And
William Williams: Yeah
Cesar Maldonado: you
John Rowe: and
Cesar Maldonado: you
William Williams: ju
Cesar Maldonado: can
William Williams: just
John Rowe: so on.
William Williams: imagine you have fifty fifty
John Rowe: Oh
William Williams: channels
John Rowe: yeah.
William Williams: uh
Thomas Heart: Y uh fifth channel
William Williams: We're not
Thomas Heart: divided
William Williams: talking
Thomas Heart: by the num by the by three hundred thirteen degree.
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: So you got how many degree you
John Rowe: Yeah
Thomas Heart: you
John Rowe: but y but you have
Thomas Heart: it
John Rowe: to go through all the channels if
Cesar Maldonado: I
John Rowe: you
Thomas Heart: No
Cesar Maldonado: think
John Rowe: want
Cesar Maldonado: you
Thomas Heart: no,
John Rowe: to
Cesar Maldonado: can
Thomas Heart: you
John Rowe: go
Thomas Heart: don't
Cesar Maldonado: if
Thomas Heart: have
Cesar Maldonado: you have
Thomas Heart: to
Cesar Maldonado: a scale,
Thomas Heart: y
Cesar Maldonado: so
Thomas Heart: no it's uh when you when you stop t uh when you stop, the the turn,
John Rowe: Mm-hmm.
Thomas Heart: then the angle you stop is the angle you is
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: the channel you
William Williams: How d how do you know this angle is th is the correct one?
Thomas Heart: It's it's very easy, because you kn you know how many channel are there in
William Williams: So
Thomas Heart: the
William Williams: you you count one degree, two degrees, no.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do it.
William Williams: I don't think so.
Thomas Heart: I think so I
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: think so you
Cesar Maldonado: it's
Thomas Heart: can
Cesar Maldonado: a
Thomas Heart: do
Cesar Maldonado: bit
Thomas Heart: it.
Cesar Maldonado: difficult.
Thomas Heart: I think so, you can just
Cesar Maldonado: I think
Thomas Heart: change.
Cesar Maldonado: b but the the vocal command is easy too. You can say fifty
William Williams: Yeah voc vocal
Cesar Maldonado: and
William Williams: command is okay.
Cesar Maldonado: fifty it's okay, so
William Williams: But w we've said previously that maybe it's not going
Thomas Heart: There's
William Williams: to be
Thomas Heart: uh also
William Williams: th l
John Rowe: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: a number,
John Rowe: but when you're
Thomas Heart: you
William Williams: the
Thomas Heart: know.
William Williams: main
John Rowe: zapping you're changing from one channel to the other, so you're passing through all the channels. So, when you say I want to go to the channel number twenty that's you've decided to go to channel twenty, so you can say channel twenty,
Cesar Maldonado: Uh, yeah,
John Rowe: or
Cesar Maldonado: and
John Rowe: channel
Cesar Maldonado: y that's
John Rowe: four, because
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
John Rowe: you really want to go on this channel. But if you really
William Williams: And this
John Rowe: want
William Williams: would be
John Rowe: to
William Williams: more for browsing,
John Rowe: to do zapping
William Williams: ah.
John Rowe: you you
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: don't really know what you want to do, you can turn it.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
John Rowe: Just go through all the channels
Cesar Maldonado: To see
John Rowe: and maybe
Thomas Heart: Mm-hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: uh
John Rowe: stop if
Cesar Maldonado: yeah
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: there is something
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: uh
John Rowe: interesting?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: Seems to be good.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: Good choice, mister David Jordan.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Yeah, I mean you're famous.
Cesar Maldonado: And but
Thomas Heart: And also
Cesar Maldonado: I'd
Thomas Heart: you can, if
William Williams: You.
Thomas Heart: you i
John Rowe: yeah, what's
Thomas Heart: You ca
John Rowe: what's
Thomas Heart: you can
John Rowe: this
Thomas Heart: turn this.
John Rowe: cherry?
Thomas Heart: Or you ca you can you can also
Cesar Maldonado: It is a turn
Thomas Heart: turn
Cesar Maldonado: off
Thomas Heart: this.
Cesar Maldonado: t turn off
Thomas Heart: For
Cesar Maldonado: button,
Thomas Heart: this you
Cesar Maldonado: maybe.
Thomas Heart: can tune it's for tune. You you if you want to skip from channel one to channel two, you you skip this. If you want to from uh skip from channel one to channel ten you tune this.
William Williams: Mm.
Thomas Heart: It's like fine, from coarse to fine. This is coarse, this is fine.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, yeah yeah. That's
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: So it's coarse to fine
Cesar Maldonado: that's
Thomas Heart: design.
Cesar Maldonado: very technologic, so. Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Okay the uh th this looks better. Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah is is this is, from one channel
Cesar Maldonado: S
Thomas Heart: to
Cesar Maldonado: But I
Thomas Heart: maybe
Cesar Maldonado: di
Thomas Heart: to
Cesar Maldonado: I didn't
Thomas Heart: ten channel.
Cesar Maldonado: see where the
Thomas Heart: This
Cesar Maldonado: t f
Thomas Heart: is from
Cesar Maldonado: the turn
Thomas Heart: one channel
Cesar Maldonado: off
Thomas Heart: to
Cesar Maldonado: t turn on turn off button so much activates maybe one of the
John Rowe: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: th you
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: have the vocal commands.
Cesar Maldonado: Uh it's
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: k
John Rowe: On off.
Cesar Maldonado: on off, yeah.
William Williams: Yeah, but it has to be on to
John Rowe: Most
William Williams: recognise
John Rowe: of the time
William Williams: fas
John Rowe: you have the yeah it's a sleeping remote control.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, sleeping.
William Williams: Ah, that's not the ecological
John Rowe: That's
William Williams: part,
John Rowe: true. W that
William Williams: yeah.
John Rowe: why we have the
William Williams: Solar.
John Rowe: solar
Cesar Maldonado: To compensate.
John Rowe: ti yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: So
William Williams: So, which number?
John Rowe: three.
Cesar Maldonado: Easy to use, it's very relative but three it's fine, I think, it's reasonable
Thomas Heart: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: Do you agree?
Cesar Maldonado: three.
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: Three?
Thomas Heart: agree, agree.
William Williams: So reasonably, is four, is one?
Cesar Maldonado: Three f three for William Williams, it's o it's okay.
William Williams: So,
Cesar Maldonado: Four
William Williams: three.
Cesar Maldonado: or three. Maybe you can vote to see how many everybody gives no and just take
John Rowe: And
Cesar Maldonado: the mean.
John Rowe: what's your opinion?
William Williams: Uh
Cesar Maldonado: Will
William Williams: we
Cesar Maldonado: you
William Williams: wouldn't
Cesar Maldonado: give
William Williams: say, I mean,
Cesar Maldonado: four?
William Williams: those are sort of agreed but this one would be more five to William Williams.
Cesar Maldonado: Five?
William Williams: I'd like I mean this is the just a prototype. I'm not really convinced it's so easy to use,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
William Williams: but
Cesar Maldonado: so
William Williams: I don't
Cesar Maldonado: maybe
Thomas Heart: Uh
William Williams: know.
Cesar Maldonado: if
Thomas Heart: w w what do y what uh you compare with traditional
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: uh um tr traditional controller? I think it's easier than traditional controller. If you use traditional controller you have to put a button, but now you don't have to put button, you have you just turn the
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah
Thomas Heart: turn the
Cesar Maldonado: but
Thomas Heart: ball.
Cesar Maldonado: y you know
Thomas Heart: There's
William Williams: So you have
Thomas Heart: two kind of balls, the smaller the the the
William Williams: yeah.
Thomas Heart: so you can c you can c you can control the scale. But in the traditional controller, how do how can you control the scale?
William Williams: Uh by pushing
Cesar Maldonado: You just push
William Williams: zero
Cesar Maldonado: two button,
William Williams: after
Cesar Maldonado: zero
William Williams: after
Cesar Maldonado: and
William Williams: the first one.
Cesar Maldonado: and
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: one. And
Thomas Heart: yeah, yeah, y you you can do it,
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: but
Cesar Maldonado: that's
Thomas Heart: you can also do it in the b if you you do not wa if you do not want to browsing all the channel you can just p there's also a button here.
Cesar Maldonado: Are there some buttons? Okay.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, this function is just for your browsing, from one channel to th the next one, the next s sn s, the
William Williams: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: It's
Thomas Heart: th the
John Rowe: not
Thomas Heart: third
John Rowe: what
Thomas Heart: one.
John Rowe: you said previously. Previously
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: you
William Williams: if you're
John Rowe: said
William Williams: changing
John Rowe: that turning
William Williams: your mind.
John Rowe: this was the fine
William Williams: Fine to coarse.
John Rowe: Fine
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
John Rowe: to coarse. And
Thomas Heart: yeah.
John Rowe: from ten to ten channels
Thomas Heart: Y one
John Rowe: here.
Thomas Heart: to ten, ten to twelve, uh ten to t uh twenty. Ten to twenty and this one, t one two three four five six, like this.
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: Uh there's different scale, so you can
William Williams: Okay.
Thomas Heart: you can choose
William Williams: But this
Thomas Heart: how much do
William Williams: this
Thomas Heart: you want
William Williams: has
Thomas Heart: to
William Williams: to
Thomas Heart: sc
William Williams: stay on the table, right?
Thomas Heart: Mm-hmm.
William Williams: This has to stay on the table.
Thomas Heart: I i
Cesar Maldonado: In fact on a flat
Thomas Heart: this is
Cesar Maldonado: place
Thomas Heart: just a base. You can just
Cesar Maldonado: You can
William Williams: Yeah
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: but then uh when you turn
John Rowe: Oh
William Williams: turn it
Cesar Maldonado: Oh ye yes, that's
John Rowe: Yeah,
William Williams: Just
Cesar Maldonado: right.
John Rowe: no no, no. You can't put
William Williams: It's
John Rowe: it out. It's just your turning from the base. You need to have everything in hand. If you want to turn, you can't use it and turn. It's impossible.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: You need to put it on and
William Williams: You know
John Rowe: turn.
William Williams: tha that's the weak point,
Cesar Maldonado: Oh
William Williams: because with a traditional
Thomas Heart: You use your
William Williams: one
Thomas Heart: y
William Williams: you just have one hand.
John Rowe: Yeah, but
Cesar Maldonado: my
John Rowe: nobody
Cesar Maldonado: God.
John Rowe: would be able to take it in the pocket and bring it in the kitchen and say I've lost the remote control. Nobody would take it.
William Williams: Sure. Yeah, you would never
John Rowe: So nobody
William Williams: you would
John Rowe: w
William Williams: never lose
John Rowe: will
William Williams: this one,
John Rowe: lost
William Williams: yeah.
John Rowe: lose
Thomas Heart: So
John Rowe: it.
Thomas Heart: th this is a d next generation controller.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: maybe, maybe may it's the next
Thomas Heart: Okay
Cesar Maldonado: prototype,
Thomas Heart: okay,
Cesar Maldonado: maybe
Thomas Heart: okay.
Cesar Maldonado: we cou
John Rowe: S maybe we can change from
Cesar Maldonado: Four.
John Rowe: th
Cesar Maldonado: Maybe four,
Thomas Heart: Four.
Cesar Maldonado: it's okay.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: Four?
Cesar Maldonado: I'll put four.
John Rowe: Easy to use, four. Gonna
William Williams: Four.
John Rowe: say four.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, four it's more
William Williams: Uh
Cesar Maldonado: reasonable.
William Williams: it's even easier to maybe.
Cesar Maldonado: You can you can erase with this er
William Williams: Ok
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
William Williams: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, four it's more reasonable, so. So
William Williams: So,
Cesar Maldonado: it's
William Williams: average?
Cesar Maldonado: nine, nine over
William Williams: Three?
Thomas Heart: Three?
Cesar Maldonado: three.
John Rowe: Trois. Three.
Cesar Maldonado: Oh yeah, it's.
Thomas Heart: Trois.
William Williams: Okay, so
Cesar Maldonado: It need maybe some wo further work, but
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: it's
William Williams: especially on the easy to use
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, uh s
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
William Williams: target.
Cesar Maldonado: Might
John Rowe: So,
Cesar Maldonado: it might be fine.
William Williams: Okay.
John Rowe: th the project is accepted?
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, b I think
John Rowe: But I d m I think that it will be good to do some more work to transform this into a pineapple.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah. Okay.
John Rowe: So uh mm
Cesar Maldonado: That's
John Rowe: mm.
Cesar Maldonado: the finance.
John Rowe: Mm. Okay and we we had a project prototype presentation with the evaluation. So as we all agree to accept,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: Mm.
John Rowe: under
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: certain conditions, the prototype, we'll have look to the final sh financial view. So we need to calculate the production cost.
William Williams: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: As I said in the first meeting we need to have so a remote control that would cost not more than twelve and
Thomas Heart: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: point fifty Euros.
Thomas Heart: Mm-hmm.
John Rowe: And if not if it's not the case y you would have to redesign it.
Cesar Maldonado: Oh yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: So, just have a look at the okay here is the Excel sheet, so so it has the energy source. We have hand dynamo. No,
William Williams: No.
John Rowe: we don't use that. We have battery, right?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, we have battery.
John Rowe: Kinetic, we don't have it,
Cesar Maldonado: No,
John Rowe: I suppose,
Cesar Maldonado: um
John Rowe: but we
Cesar Maldonado: solar
John Rowe: have solar
Cesar Maldonado: cells,
John Rowe: cells.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
John Rowe: Um, how many do y do you need, solar cells? Do you think one would be enough, or such as
Cesar Maldonado: Uh I think in
John Rowe: as
Cesar Maldonado: each
John Rowe: number
Cesar Maldonado: ball
John Rowe: of
Cesar Maldonado: you
John Rowe: branches?
Cesar Maldonado: have three
John Rowe: Three?
Cesar Maldonado: three uh yeah, three, yeah. Three three solar cells.
John Rowe: So, electronic. Single simple chip on print? Just
Cesar Maldonado: S
John Rowe: one
Cesar Maldonado: s
John Rowe: would be necessary?
Cesar Maldonado: simple, simple, yeah.
John Rowe: One?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
John Rowe: Zero for the others. And sample sensor, sample speaker. One?
Cesar Maldonado: Mm. One maybe, yeah.
John Rowe: As we have voice recognition,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah
John Rowe: I think.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah yeah.
John Rowe: So
Cesar Maldonado: Is it
John Rowe: the case.
Cesar Maldonado: Is sh it
William Williams: So we are all already nineteen.
Cesar Maldonado: Wooden.
John Rowe: Okay, just
Thomas Heart: The solar cell
John Rowe: keep
Thomas Heart: is too
John Rowe: on going,
Thomas Heart: expensive.
John Rowe: just
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: to have an idea.
Cesar Maldonado: Is Yes a wooden pl I and that's There's no
John Rowe: Well
Cesar Maldonado: wood, so plastic
John Rowe: uh
Cesar Maldonado: just only,
John Rowe: yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: I think.
John Rowe: but what what about case? Uncurved, flat, single curved, double curved. I think it's more like
William Williams: That's
John Rowe: double
William Williams: gonna be
John Rowe: curved.
William Williams: double
Cesar Maldonado: Double
William Williams: curved,
Cesar Maldonado: curve, yeah,
William Williams: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: double curve.
John Rowe: One?
Cesar Maldonado: One, you have.
John Rowe: Uh wood?
Cesar Maldonado: But it's yeah,
William Williams: Rather four
Cesar Maldonado: a
William Williams: buttons.
Cesar Maldonado: a rubber uh
William Williams: Oh
John Rowe: Uh
William Williams: no, interface.
John Rowe: do we need special colour? Y maybe,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: two?
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: We have
William Williams: yeah
John Rowe: two
William Williams: that's
John Rowe: special
Cesar Maldonado: Y
William Williams: special
John Rowe: colours.
William Williams: colours,
Cesar Maldonado: y yeah, yeah.
William Williams: sure.
John Rowe: Push button.
Thomas Heart: Mm. Yeah, we have four.
Cesar Maldonado: Five?
Thomas Heart: Five.
John Rowe: Okay. Scroll wheel.
Thomas Heart: No.
John Rowe: We don no. It it's more like integrated
Cesar Maldonado: I think
John Rowe: scor.
Cesar Maldonado: that this will
Thomas Heart: No
Cesar Maldonado: be
Thomas Heart: no.
Cesar Maldonado: like a scroll
William Williams: Yeah tha
Cesar Maldonado: wheel,
William Williams: that's
Cesar Maldonado: actually.
William Williams: wheel.
Cesar Maldonado: Y you
Thomas Heart: No
Cesar Maldonado: tu
Thomas Heart: no no, it
Cesar Maldonado: you turn you turn it, so
John Rowe: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: maybe
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: two scroll wheel, as we
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: have
Cesar Maldonado: true.
John Rowe: the coarse
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
John Rowe: coarse to fine scroll
Cesar Maldonado: Okay,
John Rowe: wheel.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah, yeah. Scr
John Rowe: So,
William Williams: I think the
John Rowe: no
William Williams: price
John Rowe: button
William Williams: is okay.
John Rowe: supplements?
Thomas Heart: No.
John Rowe: Okay.
William Williams: Um, no.
John Rowe: Okay we I think we have problem.
Cesar Maldonado: L_C_ display, maybe. Interface.
John Rowe: I think we s if we keep on adding things
Cesar Maldonado: It's okay. fine.
John Rowe: so we have to
William Williams: Yeah w one of the m key point is solar cells.
John Rowe: Maybe if w t if suppose if we change and we g put just one?
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: Has it changed.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, it was stage one, so.
William Williams: but
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: We have change
William Williams: just imagine
Thomas Heart: the electronics
William Williams: we have
Thomas Heart: to from from the the the sample
Cesar Maldonado: So
Thomas Heart: sensor to regular chip. Oh. We have to delete the the sample sensor, I think.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: Yeah, but we have you the the voice recognition, no?
William Williams: Yeah but this one one of the feature we were not
Thomas Heart: Yeah it's
William Williams: really
Thomas Heart: the one it's m maybe
John Rowe: Okay.
Thomas Heart: we ha we have two versions, the first version, the basic version.
Cesar Maldonado: I think you can
Thomas Heart: Advanced
Cesar Maldonado: transform
William Williams: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: version
Cesar Maldonado: the
Thomas Heart: we
Cesar Maldonado: wood
Thomas Heart: have
Cesar Maldonado: into
Thomas Heart: speak.
Cesar Maldonado: plastic, maybe. Because uh
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: it seems
William Williams: if
Cesar Maldonado: that this
John Rowe: Or
Cesar Maldonado: can
John Rowe: it
Cesar Maldonado: be
John Rowe: would be better.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah, wood into plastic and it it should be fine.
Thomas Heart: Plastic is free.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: So, do we need special colour?
William Williams: Yeah, that's one of
John Rowe: Because we have
William Williams: the
John Rowe: red.
William Williams: requirement.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, red and
Thomas Heart: Wait.
Cesar Maldonado: yellow.
John Rowe: Red and yellow.
William Williams: We
Cesar Maldonado: Fancy.
William Williams: could
Thomas Heart: We
William Williams: turn
Thomas Heart: we
William Williams: we
Thomas Heart: can
William Williams: could
Thomas Heart: we
William Williams: turn
Thomas Heart: can
William Williams: everything
Thomas Heart: we c
William Williams: in either
Thomas Heart: yellow.
William Williams: yellow or black. Black then is a regular colour, so.
John Rowe: I think so we need if we try to have a kind of
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: pineapple
William Williams: one.
John Rowe: bee.
William Williams: Yeah. So push button then it's it's the next expensive
John Rowe: Yeah.
William Williams: one.
John Rowe: An but we have integrated scroll wheel with push dut button. And I think this is one.
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: Integrated
William Williams: thi this might
John Rowe: scroll
William Williams: be.
John Rowe: wheel push button. So we'll we have only one? And push button.
William Williams: Close to.
John Rowe: So if we have all
Cesar Maldonado: One.
John Rowe: integrated i in the scroll wheel and push button, it's uh
Cesar Maldonado: I can remove maybe f you have five with push buttons, so we can just, I dunno, try to modify some of them to have yeah.
William Williams: Okay, so what's the bottleneck?
Thomas Heart: How about we change
William Williams: Double
Thomas Heart: the sale?
William Williams: curved.
Cesar Maldonado: Double curve. We can transform the double curve into single
John Rowe: Something flat.
Cesar Maldonado: c yeah. F some
William Williams: Yeah, but flat
John Rowe: S uncurved.
William Williams: Case, what's
John Rowe: Yeah, maybe
William Williams: the
John Rowe: not.
William Williams: ca
Cesar Maldonado: Single curve.
John Rowe: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Single curve should be fine, so. Oh, what
John Rowe: Mm.
Thomas Heart: Ah we have
William Williams: And
Thomas Heart: one
William Williams: then
John Rowe: Nearly.
William Williams: one Euro left. Um.
John Rowe: Maybe don't
Cesar Maldonado: It's
John Rowe: bat no battery, only solar cells.
Cesar Maldonado: it's a bad idea, so.
William Williams: Um
John Rowe: I think there's a problem with the push push button. We only need maybe
Cesar Maldonado: Two?
John Rowe: just one.
Cesar Maldonado: One.
John Rowe: Just one. Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: That's fine.
Thomas Heart: Okay. Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: That's
Thomas Heart: Agree.
Cesar Maldonado: fine.
William Williams: So
John Rowe: So
William Williams: we have one
Cesar Maldonado: One
William Williams: button,
John Rowe: yeah,
William Williams: one
John Rowe: you will
William Williams: wheel.
John Rowe: have So
Cesar Maldonado: s
John Rowe: one button, and
Cesar Maldonado: one
John Rowe: s
Cesar Maldonado: scroll wheel, so
John Rowe: scroll wheel with push button on it.
Cesar Maldonado: And the vocal chord, it's fine. It I th it's fine.
John Rowe: So
William Williams: It's good they're not charging anything for that.
John Rowe: So, yeah. It think we we've done good job, as the cost is
Thomas Heart: Cou could we have look
John Rowe: twelve fifty
Thomas Heart: Could we
John Rowe: e
Thomas Heart: have look at the
William Williams: Yeah y actually
Thomas Heart: p the
William Williams: it's wrong. We're not
Thomas Heart: the prod
William Williams: under
Thomas Heart: the p
William Williams: twelve
Thomas Heart: the cost?
William Williams: Euros
John Rowe: Yeah, but it's
William Williams: and a half.
John Rowe: under or equal. It's not written.
Cesar Maldonado: It's
John Rowe: Sometimes
Cesar Maldonado: fine.
John Rowe: it's under or equal.
Cesar Maldonado: It's under or
William Williams: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: equal. It's fine, so
William Williams: Okay.
Thomas Heart: Okay. So let's say
John Rowe: Twelve
Thomas Heart: Wha what
John Rowe: fifty.
Thomas Heart: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: It's fine, twelve fifty
Thomas Heart: Which part
Cesar Maldonado: uh
Thomas Heart: is the most expensive part?
William Williams: Solar cells.
Cesar Maldonado: The solar
John Rowe: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: cells,
John Rowe: I think.
Cesar Maldonado: r is
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: i is it?
Thomas Heart: I think it's not t t
John Rowe: I think, yeah. But it would i be interesting for our marketing team, to make
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: a lot
Cesar Maldonado: to
John Rowe: of
Cesar Maldonado: be able to si
John Rowe: advertisement
Cesar Maldonado: to sell it.
John Rowe: concerning these solar cells
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: to be
Thomas Heart: Cheaper.
William Williams: That's nice argument, but
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, with
William Williams: if
Cesar Maldonado: mi
William Williams: it's it's still four
Cesar Maldonado: It's it is
William Williams: our
Cesar Maldonado: really
William Williams: of
Cesar Maldonado: really
William Williams: twelve.
Cesar Maldonado: uh really very very expensive, though.
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Maybe if uh okay.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: Yeah but it will be technologically innova innovative,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: so.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
William Williams: Yeah but we just have one button.
John Rowe: So it's easy to use and powerful, as the remote control a has only one button.
William Williams: Easy. I don't know about powerful. Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: It's easy
John Rowe: Easy,
Cesar Maldonado: to use. It's very
John Rowe: powerful.
Cesar Maldonado: easy to use.
William Williams: Mm.
John Rowe: So I don't think we need to redesign the p the product.
Cesar Maldonado: No.
William Williams: Uh that's what we've just done.
Cesar Maldonado: We've done it
John Rowe: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: with it
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: is under the if it was low, high or so.
William Williams: Um
John Rowe: So
William Williams: okay.
John Rowe: Now
Cesar Maldonado: So So what are we going to do with this project evaluation?
John Rowe: So
William Williams: Well I think we have just have to discuss if
Cesar Maldonado: Okay, okay, it's
William Williams: I dunno.
Cesar Maldonado: fine.
John Rowe: So did you enjoy your clay modelling?
Thomas Heart: Yes. Of course. This is
John Rowe: Yeah?
Thomas Heart: my job.
John Rowe: Was it a nice way to create your remote control?
Thomas Heart: Yeah, it's uh it's good, to to create a control instead of a computer.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, I think I find it really funny and amazing and interesting to go through all the process to from the beginning to the end. And designing, looking at the chips, the solar cells and
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: uh and it was very informative for.
John Rowe: And for the marketing guy?
William Williams: Uh tha that was good but we should have more brainstorming like meetings, maybe.
Cesar Maldonado: Yep.
William Williams: 'Cause we just presenting one is presenting his stuff next one his
Thomas Heart: Okay.
William Williams: stuff and then we try to combine afterwards, so it
Cesar Maldonado: Okay,
William Williams: um.
Cesar Maldonado: okay.
John Rowe: And new ideas about new products, maybe, wi which would be fashion and uh and yellow.
Cesar Maldonado: Yellow. I think you can think about a yellow T_V_ now after a fruit T_V_ or I dunno. It can be an interesting I don't know
John Rowe: Yes, just lemon.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, just a lemon T_V_ it'd be yellow
Thomas Heart: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: lemon.
Thomas Heart: but y you know the traditional T_V_ it's um
Cesar Maldonado: It's flat,
Thomas Heart: Yeah
Cesar Maldonado: uh
Thomas Heart: yeah it's flat,
John Rowe: Squared?
Thomas Heart: yeah the shape is very boring.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, that's
Thomas Heart: Could
Cesar Maldonado: right.
Thomas Heart: we
Cesar Maldonado: It's really boring,
Thomas Heart: come up
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
Thomas Heart: with new T_V_
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
Thomas Heart: with such as this kind of T_V_? So you can you have base, triangle base so you the T_V_ you
John Rowe: Ah,
Thomas Heart: can
John Rowe: the lemon T_V_ with the pineapple remote control.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, that's
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: that would be really interesting,
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: actually.
Thomas Heart: Because the T_V_ you
John Rowe: Oh,
Thomas Heart: also
John Rowe: that's interesting. You could f we could do a kind of fruit collection of electronics
Cesar Maldonado: Device
John Rowe: things.
Cesar Maldonado: devi
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: Electronic
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: device.
William Williams: but
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: just don't trust too much the
Cesar Maldonado: The fruit?
William Williams: trends.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: 'Cause fruit
John Rowe: Maybe
William Williams: and vegetables it won't last for ten years uh.
John Rowe: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: maybe
Cesar Maldonado: it's
John Rowe: la
William Williams: Maybe
John Rowe: next
William Williams: two
John Rowe: year
William Williams: years
John Rowe: it will
William Williams: it's
John Rowe: be
William Williams: dead.
John Rowe: insects.
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: But I think it's good to follow the f flow
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: and you know make it now and after, you know, if
Thomas Heart: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: the people change their mind you change also the
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: product.
William Williams: but this is good because it's not a long long life product.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
William Williams: T_V_ is more like fifteen years, maybe, so.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
William Williams: If
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
William Williams: you have
Cesar Maldonado: That's
William Williams: a lemon
Cesar Maldonado: a
William Williams: lemon
Cesar Maldonado: yeah,
William Williams: T_V_ for
Cesar Maldonado: yeah. We can
William Williams: fifteen
Cesar Maldonado: think about
William Williams: years
Cesar Maldonado: T_V_ with you know where you can change you know the aspects o like for the cell phones, you know.
John Rowe: Customable
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, you customise
John Rowe: T_V_.
Cesar Maldonado: it every ti so every
William Williams: Yeah,
Cesar Maldonado: ti if
William Williams: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: people change, you just change the appearance,
John Rowe: Ah
Cesar Maldonado: and
John Rowe: such
Cesar Maldonado: y y
John Rowe: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: you
John Rowe: You've
Cesar Maldonado: can
William Williams: Tha
Cesar Maldonado: keep
William Williams: that
John Rowe: already
William Williams: would
John Rowe: said
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: mobile
William Williams: that would make
John Rowe: phones.
William Williams: it. Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, you can keep the global appearan
John Rowe: Yeah, and following
Cesar Maldonado: The mood of persons, the fashions uh
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: We
John Rowe: It's interesting, maybe
Cesar Maldonado: int
John Rowe: we can create a a line of uh T_V_
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
John Rowe: with uh
Cesar Maldonado: T_V_, yeah.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: A
John Rowe: a
Cesar Maldonado: T_V_
John Rowe: a tr
Cesar Maldonado: for autumn and a T_V_ for winter, you know, so
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: it's So what i and do w is it Okay.
John Rowe: So I think the costs are within the budget. We're just
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, the
John Rowe: at
Cesar Maldonado: pr
Thomas Heart: Yep.
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: at
John Rowe: twelve fifty Euros. So do you think you can celebrate your creation?
Thomas Heart: And you can celebrate your leadership.
John Rowe: Oh, thanks a lot. Thank you,
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah
John Rowe: mister
Cesar Maldonado: but I think
John Rowe: David Jordan.
Cesar Maldonado: f it's really a celebrating object. So it's yellow and very
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
William Williams: Hmm.
Cesar Maldonado: a very ha it's very happy, so.
William Williams: Yeah. It's
Cesar Maldonado: Uh it's
William Williams: party
Cesar Maldonado: it's
William Williams: party
Cesar Maldonado: a pr it's
William Williams: remote
Cesar Maldonado: like
William Williams: control.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
John Rowe: The thing now is to to sell it.
Thomas Heart: Yeah, it's your job.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah,
Thomas Heart: Sell it.
Cesar Maldonado: right, go and sell it. Goo and
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: good luck, so
Thomas Heart: Yeah. Okay and the twelve fifty twelve uh twelve
William Williams: Uh-huh. Twenty five Euros.
Thomas Heart: Twenty five Euros, yeah.
William Williams: Yeah, I think it's
Thomas Heart: Twenty five
John Rowe: It's
Thomas Heart: Euros.
John Rowe: maybe a little bit expensive.
William Williams: It's cheap, yeah. No, I
Thomas Heart: No, it's not so
Cesar Maldonado: It
Thomas Heart: expensive.
Cesar Maldonado: should be
William Williams: I'm
Cesar Maldonado: fine.
William Williams: not so happy about the fruit shape, you know.
Cesar Maldonado: Wh really? It should be it should be fine, you know, actually.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: S
John Rowe: Maybe what you
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: can do a test. Put it outside, and if bees come, it's really fruit.
Cesar Maldonado: I
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: I think I like the
John Rowe: But don't
Cesar Maldonado: the
John Rowe: put
Cesar Maldonado: colour
John Rowe: sugar
Cesar Maldonado: a
John Rowe: in
Cesar Maldonado: the
John Rowe: it,
Cesar Maldonado: colour
John Rowe: it's
Cesar Maldonado: are
John Rowe: not
Cesar Maldonado: very
John Rowe: working.
Cesar Maldonado: good, so actually so
William Williams: No, the colours are uh it's perfect, yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: It's perfect, and
William Williams: True. Uh yeah, another thing is the logo is missing still.
Cesar Maldonado: I p is
John Rowe: Yeah, but
Cesar Maldonado: th
John Rowe: the colour, I think the colour
Cesar Maldonado: y the
John Rowe: is more is
Cesar Maldonado: the yellow
John Rowe: most important,
William Williams: Uh
Cesar Maldonado: ball thing that
John Rowe: because I I don't think you have ever seen something like that before for a remote control.
William Williams: Still that was one of the requirements we had. It's yeah but it I don't think it's such a problem just putting
Cesar Maldonado: Uh
William Williams: the logo somewhere.
Cesar Maldonado: f like y we can we can put some uh double
John Rowe: Yeah, but we
Cesar Maldonado: R_
John Rowe: decided to have something yellow and red, for the costs.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: So maybe we can just integrate it on th on one side,
William Williams: Mm.
John Rowe: the double R_.
Cesar Maldonado: Okay yeah,
William Williams: Yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah. That's actually
Thomas Heart: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: good idea, so
John Rowe: So we have the logo, we have the colour, and we have the fashion in electronics,
Thomas Heart: So we have to give
John Rowe: so
Thomas Heart: a
John Rowe: we have the slogan too.
Thomas Heart: So we have give him give it a cute name.
William Williams: Cute
John Rowe: Yeah
Thomas Heart: Mush
John Rowe: th
Thomas Heart: mushroom
William Williams: na
John Rowe: no, it's
Thomas Heart: controller.
John Rowe: the it's the pineapple control
William Williams: You cannot
John Rowe: remote
William Williams: say mushroom
John Rowe: control.
William Williams: because it's
Cesar Maldonado: It's
William Williams: not
John Rowe: It's
William Williams: the
Cesar Maldonado: not
William Williams: trend.
John Rowe: a
Cesar Maldonado: a
John Rowe: pineapple
Cesar Maldonado: mushroom.
John Rowe: now,
William Williams: It's not
John Rowe: it
William Williams: the
Cesar Maldonado: It's
John Rowe: has
William Williams: trend.
Cesar Maldonado: a
John Rowe: changed.
Cesar Maldonado: pineapple remote
John Rowe: It's
Cesar Maldonado: controls.
John Rowe: a pineapple.
Thomas Heart: Pa
John Rowe: Pineapple.
Thomas Heart: Pine apple.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, pineapple remote remote
William Williams: Yeah, but
Cesar Maldonado: control.
William Williams: just flying saucer,
John Rowe: With cherry
William Williams: or
John Rowe: on top.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: Oh,
William Williams: I would
Cesar Maldonado: that
William Williams: say flying saucer.
Cesar Maldonado: Oh unid uh
William Williams: It's
Cesar Maldonado: unidentified
William Williams: more appropriate,
Cesar Maldonado: remote
William Williams: somehow.
Cesar Maldonado: control, so
Thomas Heart: Okay. Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: That's that's pineapple remote control. I think it's fine.
William Williams: Mm.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: Will
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
John Rowe: you buy one?
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah I will try I'll
John Rowe: Try to.
Thomas Heart: Twenty
John Rowe: Okay
Thomas Heart: five
Cesar Maldonado: try.
John Rowe: uh
Thomas Heart: Euro.
Cesar Maldonado: I can hel I will try versions so to see
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: how easy easy
Thomas Heart: Yeah
Cesar Maldonado: to manage
Thomas Heart: you told William Williams you h you d you d you lost your control your
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah I always
Thomas Heart: T_V_
Cesar Maldonado: lose
Thomas Heart: so
Cesar Maldonado: my Yeah, so
Thomas Heart: so you need to buy one.
Cesar Maldonado: so i if it is a universal one I can use it with my T_V_, so
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: it would
William Williams: Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: be
John Rowe: One thing I like is the shape, because you know it's not like the
Thomas Heart: Traditional
John Rowe: uh the
Thomas Heart: one?
John Rowe: remote controls you can
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: put in your pocket, on uh in
Thomas Heart: So
John Rowe: your jacket.
Thomas Heart: this one and this one. What do you choose?
John Rowe: I prefer the laser remote
Cesar Maldonado: I
John Rowe: control.
Thomas Heart: What do you choose?
Cesar Maldonado: think I would choose this one because
John Rowe: No.
Cesar Maldonado: of the colour. It's
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: it's will enlight your house, your home and your T_V_, so.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah.
John Rowe: Oh. Maybe next if we decide to do something we'd can put light inside.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah, yeah that would be
William Williams: Yeah
Cesar Maldonado: uh
William Williams: but that's
Cesar Maldonado: an idea.
William Williams: going to be expensive, you know.
John Rowe: Yeah.
William Williams: We had some problems going
John Rowe: I
William Williams: to
John Rowe: think
William Williams: twelve Euros and
John Rowe: it
William Williams: uh I
John Rowe: it
William Williams: dunno.
John Rowe: would be interesting to just to see if we can if people will buy this one, and maybe add some
William Williams: Yeah,
John Rowe: features
William Williams: afterwards,
John Rowe: to it
William Williams: if
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: after
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: yeah.
William Williams: if it's a new trend. Okay.
John Rowe: So
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah that's that fine. So we can celebrate now. That's our new product.
John Rowe: Champagne,
William Williams: We should celebrate.
John Rowe: mister Baba.
Cesar Maldonado: Yes. It's it's fine. It's I like it.
Thomas Heart: So buy one.
Cesar Maldonado: Next time. Well, I'll buy one here.
Thomas Heart: Yeah.
John Rowe: So
William Williams: Mm.
John Rowe: Okay, I will close this. Mm.
Cesar Maldonado: Yeah. No?
John Rowe: So I think we have finished
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
John Rowe: the designing and the evaluation of our remote control
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
William Williams: Yeah.
John Rowe: and we have a nearly final product.
William Williams: Our final prototype
Cesar Maldonado: Final
William Williams: which
Cesar Maldonado: prototype,
John Rowe: Final
Cesar Maldonado: yeah,
John Rowe: prototype,
Cesar Maldonado: ye
John Rowe: right.
William Williams: yeah.
Cesar Maldonado: yeah.
Thomas Heart: Prototype, yeah.
John Rowe: So,
Thomas Heart: Okay.
John Rowe: thank you very much.
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
Thomas Heart: Okay.
Cesar Maldonado: Okay.
John Rowe: Very productive.
Thomas Heart: Okay. Thanks.
Cesar Maldonado: S so who is going to take the remote control? | Thomas Heart and Cesar Maldonado presented their prototype for the remote. The prototype was yellow and red and was shaped like a mushroom. The team then conducted a product evaluation of the prototype. Overall, the team found the prototype to be technologically innovative but had some issues with the prototype's appearance and its usability. The team decided that the prototype required further work. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. In discussing the production costs, the team settled on what features they wanted in the remote, while staying within the boundaries of their budget, and decided it was not necessary to completely redesign their product. The team then engaged in a project evaluation in which the team discussed the process of creating their product. | 3 | amisum | test |
Eduardo Leigh: Okay everybody is ready? Good morning again So. today we are going to have a f second meeting. Oh Michael,
Dana Sosa: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: hi. You're late. You have a good reason for that?
Dana Sosa: Yes.
Eduardo Leigh: Very good. Okay, let's have a look to the agenda today. So, we are going to have a meeting about the functional design. Um so first before starting I w just going to uh to go quickly to through the minutes of previous meeting. So uh we we are not decided if w we should go for a universal or specific uh uh remote control, but I have new um new i inputs for about that topics. I goin I'm going to share with you. And uh basically we decided to um to uh go to individual actions for each of you uh so um Industrial Designer should wor was supposed to work on th on th on the working design.
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: You showed us you ar you you prepare
Ryan Mooney: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: something for us?
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: The U_I_ guy also uh work on that, yeah, and for the mar
Dana Sosa: Mm.
Eduardo Leigh: our Marketing Expert should deliver some specs. Alright so so we are going to go through three of your individual presentations. But first I would like quickly to uh to decide of to give a name to the project. So, I just put d quickly Remo, but if you have any o other names that we co could decide for just to to keep something fun for our project we we should we could discuss quickly. Any ideas?
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: Uh the Powerstick
Eduardo Leigh: Powerstick, yeah. What else? What else?
Mathew Bishop: Uh.
Dana Sosa: Maybe a Spanish name
Mathew Bishop: Mm
Dana Sosa: would
Mathew Bishop: I
Dana Sosa: work
Mathew Bishop: was
Dana Sosa: well.
Mathew Bishop: thinking
Dana Sosa: Especially
Mathew Bishop: of
Dana Sosa: if we're selling
Mathew Bishop: the
Dana Sosa: into the U_S_ market becasue there's a lot of Spanish speakers there. Maybe something that sounds cool in English but sounds funny in Spanish.
Mathew Bishop: Mando.
Dana Sosa: Mando. What
Eduardo Leigh: Mango?
Dana Sosa: is that?
Eduardo Leigh: Mango?
Mathew Bishop: Mando.
Eduardo Leigh: Mando. M_A_? M_A_?
Mathew Bishop: A_N_ yeah D_O.
Eduardo Leigh: M_ D_O_. Mm, okay.
Mathew Bishop: It doesn't it doesn't sound
Eduardo Leigh: What does it mean?
Mathew Bishop: cool for Mathew Bishop, but
Eduardo Leigh: Oh.
Mathew Bishop: maybe for a Spanish for I for
Dana Sosa: What does it mean in Spanish?
Mathew Bishop: Control.
Dana Sosa: Control.
Eduardo Leigh: Hmm.
Dana Sosa: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: Nice.
Dana Sosa: 'Cause it also like in English it sounds like you know the man's tool you know because you know
Mathew Bishop: But
Dana Sosa: men
Mathew Bishop: mm,
Dana Sosa: like to have control
Mathew Bishop: yeah.
Dana Sosa: of the remote so it
Mathew Bishop: Mando
Dana Sosa: might
Mathew Bishop: sounds Latino.
Dana Sosa: The Mando.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay. So, let's go for Mando? Yeah?
Ryan Mooney: Yeah,
Eduardo Leigh: No objection?
Ryan Mooney: yeah.
Dana Sosa: Yeah that's.
Eduardo Leigh: Great.
Dana Sosa: And
Eduardo Leigh: So
Dana Sosa: we could have some like you d you could have the fonts you know special, so you have man in like in in uh in one o in one font and then the O_ as like
Eduardo Leigh: Okay, I think
Dana Sosa: Although
Eduardo Leigh: this
Dana Sosa: you don't
Eduardo Leigh: is
Dana Sosa: wanna cut uh cut women out of
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Dana Sosa: the uh potential buyers though, do you? So
Ryan Mooney: Yeah they are the most T_V_ watcher. So we should be careful.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay, I think this is more a question of
Mathew Bishop: But yeah
Dana Sosa: Marketing.
Eduardo Leigh: of
Mathew Bishop: it
Eduardo Leigh: I
Mathew Bishop: uh
Eduardo Leigh: I think this is more a question of of look and feel. Something that should be addressed later. We should
Mathew Bishop: Yeah
Eduardo Leigh: we should go to
Mathew Bishop: because
Eduardo Leigh: other
Mathew Bishop: if the product
Eduardo Leigh: for the other topics.
Mathew Bishop: will be international
Dana Sosa: Well that's the thing. We need to know who we're selling it to before we can really decide on a
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah okay, so
Dana Sosa: Um.
Eduardo Leigh: let's stick f to Man Mando for the name and we'll see for the for the look and feel later. So let's go for the three presentations right now. So, who want to start?
Mathew Bishop: Maybe
Eduardo Leigh: So
Mathew Bishop: maybe
Eduardo Leigh: maybe
Mathew Bishop: I
Eduardo Leigh: we
Mathew Bishop: should
Eduardo Leigh: could
Mathew Bishop: uh start.
Eduardo Leigh: start with the market, yeah.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah. Mm. Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay so I have your slides somewhere?
Mathew Bishop: Yeah. Should be in participant four.
Eduardo Leigh: Participant four.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah,
Eduardo Leigh: This one?
Mathew Bishop: yeah.
Mathew Bishop: Uh.
Eduardo Leigh: S that's coming. Uh
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: okay. Great.
Mathew Bishop: Okay so yeah will I will give a brief outline about what I what I prepared for this meeting.
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Mathew Bishop: For the functional requirements and especially for the for the user requirements. I prepare a marketing report and we have to find the weaknesses and and the the improvements we could do to the current remote controls. And also I di I did a study with for the incorporation of new technologies it seems that the remote controls have been have remained the same for the last five, ten years. There is no no significant difference between the the b the first new controls and
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: Sh next slide? Okay.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah. Well more most of the people think that remote controls are ugly, thoroughly. So and they they admit that the the they should uh s they would uh spend more money in a fancier remote control, which is which is good and it's interesting point. Also the people are worried about about the R_S_I_ disease, which is if you repeat the sa the same movement, which is not a with a not very appropriate device, you you will have problems whe when you will get old. So s people are uh are worried about the the shape of the of the remote control. They are also they get angry very often because they lost the remote control very often, so I think it would be a good point to to l to to find a a solution to any beep any alarm or something incorporated to with the remote control every time it it get lost.
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Mathew Bishop: And also I found that young people the the younger people are the more interested they are in incorporating new technologies in the in the remote control.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Mathew Bishop: So in my opinion the Mando this Mando shouldn't be very small because the smaller it is, the more like the the liklier it is to get lost. Liklier or more likely?
Dana Sosa: More likely.
Mathew Bishop: likely. Okay. Uh people also complain because they they they all have the same size of the buttons for buttons who w which are not very use like f uh memorising channels or or this kind of actions which are not very often but they they shouldn't they shouldn't have the same importance in the in the uh in the remote cont in the remote control. Also the z the design should fit the hand shape. So it may be interesting to to think in a in both prototypes, for right and left handed people.
Dana Sosa: Well th the on the thing is though, most remote controls are used by more than one person. So unless you're kind of targeting single people you know you're gonna maybe
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: cut out some a lot of your market.
Mathew Bishop: I dunno I th Anyway I think it could be int interesting to to release some a a small fraction of
Ryan Mooney: Well
Mathew Bishop: of
Ryan Mooney: maybe
Mathew Bishop: this
Ryan Mooney: it could be a
Mathew Bishop: remote
Ryan Mooney: universal
Mathew Bishop: controls.
Ryan Mooney: design.
Mathew Bishop: Sorry?
Ryan Mooney: A universal design, which is which is good for both the hands.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: Still
Ryan Mooney: Yeah?
Dana Sosa: shaped for yeah for your hand but not for a particular
Ryan Mooney: That's right,
Dana Sosa: hand,
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: right?
Ryan Mooney: whether it's left hand or right hand, but but don't you think that the two points are clashing, one thing you are saying design should fit the hand shape and it should not be very small?
Mathew Bishop: Sorry?
Ryan Mooney: The first and the third point, they are clashing.
Dana Sosa: Well it can still be a, you can still extend past
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: the hand.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Mathew Bishop: Like
Dana Sosa: Uh.
Mathew Bishop: uh
Ryan Mooney: So fitting the hand doesn't mean much then.
Dana Sosa: Well it means like, this remote here is kind of is very thin and long so instead
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm
Dana Sosa: of having
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: you know you might have it kind of
Mathew Bishop: Yeah,
Dana Sosa: a
Mathew Bishop: like
Dana Sosa: bit bigger or, you know, with maybe some some
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm
Dana Sosa: finger
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm
Dana Sosa: molds
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: or something.
Ryan Mooney: So it means design should be similar to the traditional ones? Little sleek, longer?
Mathew Bishop: No no
Ryan Mooney: And
Mathew Bishop: I was
Ryan Mooney: it should
Mathew Bishop: thinking
Ryan Mooney: fit
Mathew Bishop: of
Ryan Mooney: the
Mathew Bishop: so
Ryan Mooney: hand.
Mathew Bishop: like
Eduardo Leigh: Something
Mathew Bishop: something
Eduardo Leigh: with the shape of the palm?
Mathew Bishop: yeah.
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: Some
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: finger grips maybe. You could even have some buttons like you know
Eduardo Leigh: On
Mathew Bishop: Yeah
Eduardo Leigh: the sides.
Mathew Bishop: yeah.
Dana Sosa: on
Mathew Bishop: It
Dana Sosa: the sides
Mathew Bishop: sh it shouldn't
Dana Sosa: and everything,
Mathew Bishop: it shouldn't
Dana Sosa: but
Mathew Bishop: be symmetric symmetrical.
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hm
Mathew Bishop: Not
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm
Mathew Bishop: anymore.
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm.
Mathew Bishop: That's what yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: And then finally
Mathew Bishop: And finally, the incorporation of a L_C_D_ or a speech recognition system in the remote control could also be interesting, but I don't know if the budget would
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Mathew Bishop: be large
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Mathew Bishop: enough.
Eduardo Leigh: First I'm just wondering about the L_C_D_ stuff
Mathew Bishop: But
Eduardo Leigh: because
Mathew Bishop: most of
Eduardo Leigh: uh
Mathew Bishop: yeah
Eduardo Leigh: because
Mathew Bishop: most of the young people to thirty to thirty years old were really interested in this kind of technology.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah, so maybe it's a good time for Mathew Bishop to uh to bring you to some new uh new informations. We had the new requirements from the so uh from the head offices of the company, and so they wanted so they want to um they would like to be restricted to T_V_.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay, I dunno if you had this information already.
Dana Sosa: No.
Eduardo Leigh: No, so they want us to restrict the remote control to T_V_ only because of time limitations. Um they want also
Mathew Bishop: Actually
Eduardo Leigh: uh
Mathew Bishop: this marketing report is restricted to T_V_ remote controls.
Eduardo Leigh: Excellent. So we have also to focus more on the internet aspects because well well te teletext is outdated now and uh finally, it should be clear that the corporate image, that means colours and logos of the co our company should be clearly inde identified in the product. So
Dana Sosa: I was still uh I was still working on this uh twenty five Euro price point because I think actually having looked at some of the remotes out there, this is quite a low uh price if if we're maybe I can get to this in my presentation though, but um
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah yeah.
Dana Sosa: yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: Sure sure. So maybe we can jump to your presentations,
Dana Sosa: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: right
Dana Sosa: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: now. Okay so let's keep in mind about tha that that this last point about L_C_D_ and speech uh
Dana Sosa: Yeah. I
Eduardo Leigh: reco
Dana Sosa: think even even if it was within budget do a speech reco rec system it might be a bit difficult because if you think if you're watching T_V_ you're gonna have a lot of this uh background noise from the T_V_ which might interfere with the
Eduardo Leigh: Sorry, what is your?
Dana Sosa: Uh participant three. You might have some background noise from the T_V_ which will make the speech recognition much uh
Mathew Bishop: Yeah but you should
Dana Sosa: harder,
Mathew Bishop: be able to
Dana Sosa: so.
Mathew Bishop: activate or disactivate, so yeah
Dana Sosa: Oh you press
Mathew Bishop: yeah.
Dana Sosa: a press a button to talk, and the
Mathew Bishop: Yeah
Dana Sosa: the T_V_
Mathew Bishop: uh channel
Dana Sosa: the T_V_
Mathew Bishop: fifty.
Dana Sosa: sound turns off.
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: No it could be command control kind of thing. It requir recognises particular sequence and then it gets activated. Means you say you should say like does that, remote control being on or be on kind of thing, and then remote control comes in the picture for the speech recognition.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: Because this kind of thing means speech is there from the T_V_ also.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: So there should be something command controlled, you start
Dana Sosa: Mm.
Ryan Mooney: and then you stop.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: It's like V_I_ editor, you are having two modes similarly. Otherwise it's just lying idle.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay Michael.
Dana Sosa: Okay, so, could I describe the mouse maybe be
Eduardo Leigh: Sorry?
Dana Sosa: easier to could I use the mouse, or
Eduardo Leigh: Um yeah.
Dana Sosa: Mm. Thanks. Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: The wheel doesn't work.
Dana Sosa: Great. Okay so um while uh researching this this topic I first of all just thought of a couple of things that I would like to see in a remote, and just uh looked to see if they're actually available in any current remotes, and then also searched for which are the top-rated uh remote controls on Epinions dot com, which is a a you know a a customer um written basically review site. So um there's a pretty wide range of uh remote controls these days and and uh this remote control on the right here is is one of the more extravagant, but it's not really it's by no means uh mm you know on it's own in being so expensive. There are a lot of expensive remote controls out there.
Eduardo Leigh: Looks like a P_D_A_?
Dana Sosa: So yeah it doe it's well basically all the functions uh are controlled through through the L_C_D_ screen except for the really really kind of main functions, which have a couple of of their own buttons. Um and if you look at a lot of the universal remotes out um on the market, I know we're working on television remote, but a lot of the universal remotes out there have uh have these L_C_D_ screens which kind of helps when you're using multiple uh devices I suppose because you can have multiple kind of functions d different functions on the screen at different times. But um the thing that I find most interesting about this remote control, and it's kind of difficult to uh to see in the slide, but it has a scroll wheel on it, which is kind of like uh a mouse scroll wheel, which I think is it's a really kind of important design aspect um is it's 'Cause the thing is what a what we the presen this presentation we had is what we want the remote control to actually do. And obviously the the simplest thing that a remote control does is it just change
Ryan Mooney: Change
Dana Sosa: the
Ryan Mooney: the channels.
Dana Sosa: change the channel.
Ryan Mooney: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: Now um uh the I think that a scroll wheel is actually pretty a pretty handy way of of changing the channel. 'Cause I know when I um when I use the remote to change the channel I very rarely use the numbers on the on the
Ryan Mooney: Mmm-hmm
Dana Sosa: pad. I usually
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: use the up and down
Ryan Mooney: Yeah yeah.
Dana Sosa: a special button to enter a two-digit number, and then two numbers, so that's just uh it's annoying. So I think a scroll wheel is is quite handy. Now um the the scroll wheel is is much more useful if you have an L_C_D_ screen, and this brings us to the the point you were mentioning before about the internet uh capability.
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: One possibility, if we now we need to still talk about the price point because obviously a lot of this stuff can't be done for twenty five Eu uh Euro, but one possibility is to download program information into the L_C_D_ screen so that instead of actually saying I want to I want to go to channel thirty seven because I know this programme's on, you know, often you don't know what ch what channel it's on, or you don't know what's on. If you have a list of of programs on your L_C_D_ screen you just scroll to that program rather than to a channel. So if you think about it's kind of like a you know in mobile phones now you don't use you don't remember people's phone number, you remember their name and you go find that name and ring it. So this would be pretty kind of a handy thing to have, but um we we really need t to discuss the price. So, I mean there are there are uh cheaper this is another multi kinda purpose remote control where it's it's it's very simple, there's only a few buttons, but al each of those buttons does something different in a different context. So this is something else we might wanna consider, is really kind of limiting the number of buttons, because this is the top rating uh universal remote control on on Epinions. It it's really uh maybe worth thinking about limiting the number of buttons as much as as possible um because really I think people want to be able to find the button they're looking for without even looking at the remote control. And was saying before about having different size buttons for different you know frequently used uh tasks, but I think also you know the location and and shape of the buttons is important, but also the number of buttons. So if you have too many buttons it it it increases the the difficulty of finding
Ryan Mooney: But
Dana Sosa: the one
Ryan Mooney: there
Dana Sosa: you
Ryan Mooney: is
Dana Sosa: want.
Ryan Mooney: one
Dana Sosa: So
Ryan Mooney: problem then the user has to understand each of that functionality.
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: Yeah well
Ryan Mooney: Because
Dana Sosa: we w
Ryan Mooney: the same button is doing too many things.
Dana Sosa: Yeah well we will have a bit of a simpler uh task in that we're only doing uh a television remote control. Um I think maybe one option is to have you know a little flip-open um door that uh that you have hidden most of the time, but contains the extra buttons like, say, the number buttons for instance.
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: Um I I would if I had my perfect remote control, I'd probably just have no numbers at all on it because
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: they're just in the way. They don't really do anything. Maybe you know I although I do also find flip-open doors a bit of a pain because sometimes they can break off or or whatever, but maybe a door that you can you can permanantly remove or permanantly
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: have on would be good. Um but I think definitely you need to to keep the buttons down to a minimum, but not not let that kind of interfere with the functionality of of the device. Um
Mathew Bishop: H I think I think that the tr the transition to this to this new remote control shouldn't be very very abrupt very hard because w if people see a remo see the see a remote control without numbers mm they will think it's very difficult to learn very difficult to
Ryan Mooney: It does
Mathew Bishop: very
Ryan Mooney: sampling
Mathew Bishop: different
Ryan Mooney: out of
Mathew Bishop: build very
Ryan Mooney: the.
Mathew Bishop: different to
Dana Sosa: Well I guess
Mathew Bishop: the traditional
Dana Sosa: that depends on how you market it. If you if you have the right advertisement showing how how
Mathew Bishop: If
Dana Sosa: how easy
Mathew Bishop: y
Dana Sosa: it is and how you can, you know, navigate to a program without the numbers, then people might say that looks pretty easy.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay,
Dana Sosa: So,
Eduardo Leigh: can
Dana Sosa: but
Eduardo Leigh: you continue,
Dana Sosa: yep.
Eduardo Leigh: please Mi?
Dana Sosa: Um okay, so, I think um one of the really kind of useful things you can do with with internet connectivity would be to have this a programme driven interface rather than the channel number. So if we can have a higher priced uh remote control I think that would really be worth uh something that would be worth implementing. Um mm there's the L_C_D_ screen, um which maybe maybe is too expensive, um but I think also at the scroll wheel, I haven't mentioned it here, the scroll wheel could be used without an L_C_D_ screen, just for changing channel numbers easily. I think even that, I mean, that would be a fairly cheap thing, compared to an L_C_D_ screen,
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: to implement, um but I think that would be quite useful as well. And the other thing, you say we need to we need to keep it just television, but I think one maybe one option, since this is supposed to be a kind of a fashionable device, is you know there's a certain kind of cool or wow factor that you can kind of you can have with technology, and maybe we wanna make it something that's extensible to do other tasks. Say you have like um a little another little kind of base unit that can also receive signals as well as the television where you can, say uh, change the lighting in the room. You know that would be something maybe you could sell as an extra, so that it doesn't have to be part of the initial development, but, you know, later on you could you can you know you also, selling the potential of the device. Then you say potentially you can then do other cool stuff like change the lights, I dunno, close the windows, whatever, turn the heating on, and um, I think that's something we may need to have as as at least as an optional extra to to kinda make our product
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Dana Sosa: cool, since we say we're putting the fashion in electronics.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay. Okay, thanks.
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: you
Ryan Mooney: So
Eduardo Leigh: want to go?
Ryan Mooney: yeah. So most of the things which we are discussing about is speech recognition uh, that means
Eduardo Leigh: This
Ryan Mooney: on
Eduardo Leigh: one?
Ryan Mooney: my own I yeah, it should be.
Eduardo Leigh: Great. No, not that one. you are two.
Ryan Mooney: Two.
Eduardo Leigh: Alright.
Ryan Mooney: Okay so the working design is uh user i interface could be of two types, one is the usual press buttons which are there so that the user feels that he is knoing doing some he is knowing about that technology. So he is pretty comfortable if he wants to get this, and on top of that there there could be a speech recognition technology also being sitting on the on the remote. So the old kind of users who don't want to have any changes, it can it can be useful for them, and the new users, as uh our Marketing Expert was saying, they can use the new gizmo which is speech recognition kind of thing.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay, sorry to interrupt you, but we have seen before that there is a new way of interacting that use wheel.
Ryan Mooney: That's right. So anyway, that didn't come into my mind,
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Ryan Mooney: so th that is a possibility. These could be other kind of interfaces. Means we can have, depending on the cost, how much we can afford, we can have different kind of interfaces. So spe buttons are something which is very everybody is familiar with. So if you go to the market and you say that buttons are there the people know what it is,
Eduardo Leigh: Mm-hmm.
Ryan Mooney: and on top of that if we are having extra functionality people are willing to shell that twenty-five Euros money which we are thinking. Otherwise we are just like others in the market. So anyway that is the first, user interface could be of more than one type, and uh yeah that means we can do the on-line changes which which cannot be done now actually. So apart from the speech, we can have the scroll kind of thing with the buttons. Now for buttons, normal requirements like bit coding and all those things are required. And for voice, limited vocabulary automatic speech recognition system is required and we require a microphone also to be sitting there on the remote.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah. That increases the the cost also.
Ryan Mooney: Uh that's right. But uh means we have to see how much what kind of microphones and stuff like that.
Eduardo Leigh: Do you think that performance of such systems are enough to to target well of such technologies is enough?
Ryan Mooney: Uh yes, if it is limited vocabulary usually it's enough.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Ryan Mooney: Yeah we we can uh target, means we can target ninety five percent accuracy or somewhere ninety
Eduardo Leigh: Well
Ryan Mooney: seven
Eduardo Leigh: wh
Ryan Mooney: perc
Eduardo Leigh: uh I imagine
Dana Sosa: Hmm.
Eduardo Leigh: also that the microphone will be an ambiance um a um an ambience microphones
Ryan Mooney: That's
Eduardo Leigh: because
Ryan Mooney: right.
Eduardo Leigh: you are not going to speak into
Ryan Mooney: No
Eduardo Leigh: into
Ryan Mooney: it
Eduardo Leigh: th
Ryan Mooney: it could
Eduardo Leigh: into
Ryan Mooney: be
Eduardo Leigh: the remote
Ryan Mooney: little
Eduardo Leigh: control.
Ryan Mooney: d yeah
Eduardo Leigh: So
Ryan Mooney: it
Eduardo Leigh: it
Ryan Mooney: could
Eduardo Leigh: could
Ryan Mooney: be
Eduardo Leigh: be s a few centimetres.
Ryan Mooney: That's right.
Dana Sosa: Well
Ryan Mooney: That's
Dana Sosa: one
Ryan Mooney: right.
Dana Sosa: one other thing that that speech recognition could really blow out the price for is uh when you want to sell into other markets, though, because, I'm not sure exactly where we're gonna sell this, but I presume it's not gonna just be English speaking countries.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: So
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm
Dana Sosa: then you have
Ryan Mooney: mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: to s you know, you have to train models for
Ryan Mooney: Uh it's more like, means there are different speech technologies which are existing so D_T_W_ could be kind of which is the easiest. So you have to store some templates on the on the on the chip itself, and it's just dynamic time warping where you try to find out what it is, instead of having
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: a model which has to
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Ryan Mooney: be trained and being a micro-controller.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay we shou we should discuss this
Ryan Mooney: Yeah,
Eduardo Leigh: la later
Ryan Mooney: that's right.
Eduardo Leigh: after after after this
Ryan Mooney: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: this uh slide.
Ryan Mooney: So
Eduardo Leigh: This
Ryan Mooney: we
Eduardo Leigh: is
Ryan Mooney: can
Eduardo Leigh: a this is a this is a a very important uh issue
Ryan Mooney: That's
Eduardo Leigh: in
Ryan Mooney: right.
Eduardo Leigh: discussion.
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay, next.
Ryan Mooney: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: Uh that finished?
Ryan Mooney: No no. Components.
Eduardo Leigh: No? Components?
Ryan Mooney: Yeah. So, will you go to the next slide?
Eduardo Leigh: Yes sure.
Ryan Mooney: Yeah so this is the design which we are thinking so. We are having a power button and the switch, which is not much, and then we are having the which is to indicate whether the power is on or not. And then there are two kind of things which can be so one is the button interface which has not been shown because because of lack of time. So we could not put that. So now where the A_S_R_ decoder is sitting, similarly there are different kind of interfaces which could be there. there, and then there could be another scroll button scroll scroller, and then there could be buttons, and all of them they will just do the decoding and put it in the math put it in the proper message format. And then there is there is the chip which is sitting, the green one, and it converts it into bit codes, and that bit codes are sent by the infrared device to the receiver.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Ryan Mooney: So this is the easiest design the there could be. So th an A_S_R_ decoder we can have things in. To have different technologies. So this was the my personal preference was that we can have A_S_R_ sitting there on the remote control.
Dana Sosa: You
Ryan Mooney: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: know I guess you could actually train the remote control as you're using it by saying you know turn volume up, and you press the uh press the button like uh s people teach sign language to kids f well,
Ryan Mooney: Yeah but
Dana Sosa: by
Ryan Mooney: uh
Dana Sosa: speaking and
Ryan Mooney: as soon
Dana Sosa: doing
Ryan Mooney: as you try to put the microchip kind of thing or something the price will go up.
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: So these
Eduardo Leigh: Okay.
Ryan Mooney: are the slight problems.
Eduardo Leigh: So your your opinion is that we should go for special
Ryan Mooney: Because
Eduardo Leigh: condition technologies?
Ryan Mooney: yeah the reason is that if we go into the market means though I don't have much idea, but as he the uh Marketing Expert presentation
Mathew Bishop: I'm sure
Ryan Mooney: was
Mathew Bishop: if you can sell a a speech recognition remote control for twenty five Euros everyo everyone will s will buy it.
Ryan Mooney: So if
Dana Sosa: Actually
Ryan Mooney: we go
Dana Sosa: I'm
Ryan Mooney: with
Dana Sosa: not
Ryan Mooney: just
Dana Sosa: so sure
Ryan Mooney: the
Mathew Bishop: I'm
Dana Sosa: because
Mathew Bishop: sure.
Dana Sosa: I'm the you know if I was using a remote control to, say, turn the volume up because I can't hear it very well, I don't really want to you know drown out what people are saying by talking you know when I'm when I'm instead of pressing up on on a remote control. You know if there's some there's some dialogue all of a sudden that I can't hear,
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: I'm trying to actually find out what's being said, so maybe speech recognition gets in the way more than it helps.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay so
Mathew Bishop: Yeah but you know the the average frequency of pushing buttons, it's about
Dana Sosa: Well it depends if it's a remote control
Mathew Bishop: it's about
Dana Sosa: th
Mathew Bishop: eighty eighty eighty pushes per hour, or something like that.
Dana Sosa: Maybe if the remote control is something that y you don't actually have to pick up anymore, that would be a a useful feature of the speech recogntion. If you can
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: leave it sitting
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: on the table and
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: you don't actually have
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: to find
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: it, then
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Dana Sosa: that could be.
Eduardo Leigh: have to take some deci decisions right now.
Ryan Mooney: Alright.
Eduardo Leigh: Um so if I if I kind of summarise everything we've de we we said. We are targeting T_V_. We need we need to have um um remote control which is fanc fancy, which is uh which is easy to to hand not too small, not too big. Um we have
Mathew Bishop: With a good shape for
Eduardo Leigh: or
Mathew Bishop: the
Eduardo Leigh: good shape, yes. We should bring new technologies for young peoples, and uh as we have uh also requirements to to use uh to to push thr toward the internet. Maybe this is something we can stick to it. And um also, a very interesting things I I I've seen on on on the one of the comp o our competitor is this wheel that we can use to navigate. So so my feeling is that re regarding costs budget we have an an an target price, it's not possible to go s to go to L_C_D_ and also to go to automatic speech recognition technologies. Uh first m m why not to go to L_C_D_. Because um in fact as we are targeting uh T_V_ in fact we can use T_V_ screen as a screen to feedback to to give some feedback informations about what
Dana Sosa: Well it depends
Eduardo Leigh: we could
Dana Sosa: though
Eduardo Leigh: have.
Dana Sosa: well it depends. If we we don't unless we have some input some video input to the T_V_ or we have control over the T_V_ then we can't actually display that. Like if we if we produce the T_V_s then then yeah we can put you know menus up up there, but otherwise we need to actually have some kind of something sitting in between the video signal and the and the T_V_ to superimpose those those menus. So that's an extra
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah that's right. Don
Dana Sosa: cost.
Eduardo Leigh: don't you ha don't we have contacts with uh people on T_V_ or or well systems that exist that we
Dana Sosa: Well this is
Eduardo Leigh: can use?
Dana Sosa: this is another que we still haven't really defined the remote. Are we still you say we're focusing on T_V_, but is it still a kind of like a universal remote in that it's a replacement remote control, or
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: is this something for our own line of of televisions? 'Cause that really makes a big difference. 'Cause even if we have contacts we can't really produce a remote control that can bring up menus on other other companies' T_V_s. It's just there are too many T_V_s out there.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: It's it's not really
Eduardo Leigh: That's
Dana Sosa: gonna
Eduardo Leigh: good point. What's what cou what could be the cost of uh well, could we fit the the targets uh in terms of cost uh if we go s to L_C_D_ on the remote control?
Dana Sosa: For twenty five Euro?
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah.
Ryan Mooney: It's
Dana Sosa: I think
Ryan Mooney: not
Dana Sosa: it's
Ryan Mooney: possible.
Dana Sosa: impossible.
Ryan Mooney: It's impossible.
Dana Sosa: But
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Dana Sosa: but I dunno, I think um it would be good to know if there is any leverage in that any leeway in that um that twenty five Euro because for twenty five Euro I think all we can really do is provide a very basic remote control, and that seems to be kind of against the philosophy of our company which is you know putting the fashion into electronics. So I would I would like to know if there's any chance of of increasing the uh
Mathew Bishop: Uh
Dana Sosa: of increasing the unit price.
Mathew Bishop: What would
Eduardo Leigh: So
Mathew Bishop: be
Eduardo Leigh: you mean yo you mean we we should target something maybe which is which would be more expensive
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: but re really fancy in
Dana Sosa: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: terms to um in terms to had to have really an added value?
Dana Sosa: Yeah because
Eduardo Leigh: Okay,
Dana Sosa: yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: so regarding the automatic
Mathew Bishop: Wha
Eduardo Leigh: speech recognition, I think
Mathew Bishop: but
Eduardo Leigh: this is
Mathew Bishop: what would be one question, what would be the goal of putting an L_C_D_ in a remote control?
Dana Sosa: Well
Mathew Bishop: What
Dana Sosa: th
Mathew Bishop: what kind of information?
Dana Sosa: 'Cause you can have things like the programme name instead of the channel numbers, like
Mathew Bishop: Yeah
Dana Sosa: an interactive
Mathew Bishop: but mo
Dana Sosa: programme
Mathew Bishop: most of the
Dana Sosa: guide.
Mathew Bishop: T_V_s nowadays
Eduardo Leigh: They
Mathew Bishop: show
Eduardo Leigh: have tele
Mathew Bishop: the
Eduardo Leigh: teletext.
Mathew Bishop: show the
Eduardo Leigh: Well, because they have teletext
Mathew Bishop: the n
Eduardo Leigh: on it. Th th you have a teletext sin signal that you can that you can uh
Mathew Bishop: Yeah
Eduardo Leigh: that you
Mathew Bishop: but
Eduardo Leigh: can get thr
Mathew Bishop: yeah
Eduardo Leigh: through
Mathew Bishop: most
Eduardo Leigh: the channel.
Mathew Bishop: of the T_V_s have teletext nowadays.
Eduardo Leigh: They have t most of them have
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: teletext, but we want to get rid well one of our requirements is to uh to move to teletext to uh to the use of internet. So to to uh
Dana Sosa: You can get a lot more information
Eduardo Leigh: to browse more easily
Dana Sosa: on
Eduardo Leigh: the teletext.
Dana Sosa: it.
Eduardo Leigh: For instance through uh through your remote control.
Mathew Bishop: So what would what would appear in the in the L_C_D_?
Dana Sosa: So you could have the name of the programme, you could have um
Eduardo Leigh: The ti
Dana Sosa: the start time
Eduardo Leigh: the start
Dana Sosa: you know
Eduardo Leigh: time,
Dana Sosa: where it's
Eduardo Leigh: all
Dana Sosa: up
Eduardo Leigh: the
Dana Sosa: to.
Eduardo Leigh: p all the programmes you could have uh
Dana Sosa: You could have a l even
Eduardo Leigh: o
Dana Sosa: a little image of you know the c
Mathew Bishop: Okay.
Dana Sosa: you know the the m the main actors or something so you can quickly just kind of even without
Eduardo Leigh: Well
Dana Sosa: reading
Eduardo Leigh: I don't know if this information is available from teletext, also.
Dana Sosa: Well no, but there are the electronic programme guides out
Ryan Mooney: Are
Dana Sosa: there. They may not have pictures, but maybe they do. There's dependi it also
Eduardo Leigh: Well because
Dana Sosa: depends on the country.
Eduardo Leigh: for the same reason that we cannot uh informations on the T_V_. We c we couldn't grab information information which is not there.
Dana Sosa: No but I mean with the internet you have flexibility of where you get your information from. So it may be possible that there are
Eduardo Leigh: So
Dana Sosa: people out there providing that.
Eduardo Leigh: so that mean
Mathew Bishop: But
Eduardo Leigh: w
Dana Sosa: Uh.
Eduardo Leigh: w we need an in an extra internet connection to use the remote control, if you want to browse,
Mathew Bishop: Yeah.
Eduardo Leigh: in addition to the T_V_, or uh or it should be a special T_V_ connected
Dana Sosa: Well
Eduardo Leigh: to
Dana Sosa: I I think if we're gonna I think we would definitely need the internet connection because even with y I don't think you could even get teletext information from the T_V_ onto the remote control, especially if we don't control the T_V_. I dunno. We need to find that out.
Eduardo Leigh: Okay. We need to close the meeting. Um so
Ryan Mooney: But just a small thing, what
Eduardo Leigh: Very
Ryan Mooney: kind
Eduardo Leigh: quickly.
Ryan Mooney: of market we are targeting? Is it that we are targeting the replacement remote market, or what? So the remote has gone bad and the person wants to buy a new remote or because the cost of L_C_D_ thing could be as high as the T_V_ itself. That is very
Eduardo Leigh: No.
Ryan Mooney: important.
Dana Sosa: Mm. If
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah,
Dana Sosa: it's a really small T_V_
Eduardo Leigh: well
Dana Sosa: maybe.
Eduardo Leigh: people go to buy another remote control when they broke
Ryan Mooney: Broke.
Eduardo Leigh: n
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: broke
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: their, and they want to go t for universal
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: one, and
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: they take the fanciest they can
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: have.
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: So this is that we z that that we should target. So the com the um the uh the committment is the following, we don't go for speech recognition technology.
Ryan Mooney: Mm-hmm.
Eduardo Leigh: The L_C_D_ is still on disc is still open to discussion. It is up to you to go through this um uh this way and to to report report Mathew Bishop back next meeting. So
Mathew Bishop: I think that the speech recognition technology would
Ryan Mooney: It's
Mathew Bishop: be cheaper
Ryan Mooney: it's cheaper
Mathew Bishop: the
Ryan Mooney: as compared
Mathew Bishop: than
Ryan Mooney: to
Mathew Bishop: the
Ryan Mooney: the L_C_D_.
Mathew Bishop: L_C_D_.
Eduardo Leigh: Yeah, but not sure. Maybe it's cheaper, but we have no
Mathew Bishop: Because with the L_C_D_ you need more requirements. You need a internet connection. You need m more things. But for the speech
Dana Sosa: Well
Mathew Bishop: recognition
Dana Sosa: the thing
Mathew Bishop: you
Dana Sosa: is
Mathew Bishop: you
Dana Sosa: I think
Mathew Bishop: don't need
Dana Sosa: I
Mathew Bishop: anything.
Dana Sosa: think the type of peop
Mathew Bishop: channel fifty, and that's it.
Dana Sosa: I think the type of people that are gonna want to buy a very stylish rem r remote control with lots of new technologies are the kinda people that are gonna have you know a wireless internet connection maybe, or a
Mathew Bishop: But then
Dana Sosa: you know.
Mathew Bishop: we should move to another target b because
Ryan Mooney: Means
Mathew Bishop: at twenty
Ryan Mooney: th
Mathew Bishop: five
Ryan Mooney: yeah
Mathew Bishop: Dollars,
Dana Sosa: Well this
Mathew Bishop: it's
Dana Sosa: is what
Ryan Mooney: twenty
Dana Sosa: we need
Ryan Mooney: five
Dana Sosa: to find
Ryan Mooney: Euros
Dana Sosa: out. Can
Ryan Mooney: is
Dana Sosa: we
Ryan Mooney: yeah,
Dana Sosa: can
Ryan Mooney: that's
Dana Sosa: we
Ryan Mooney: right.
Dana Sosa: increase the the price point of this remote control? 'Cause otherwise we need
Eduardo Leigh: Okay this is this is an open question for you. Yeah. This is uh up to you to tell us. But I'm definitely not keen on
Mathew Bishop: To move to another target?
Eduardo Leigh: to to no no no, I'm no I'm definit definitely not keen on going to speech recognition technologies. I'm not confident enough. I'm not sure that that we'll have a product really that work. I uh that work
Dana Sosa: It's kind of hard to guarantee
Eduardo Leigh: It's
Dana Sosa: that
Eduardo Leigh: real
Dana Sosa: you're gonna
Eduardo Leigh: yeah. How to guarantee such performances is really hard.
Mathew Bishop: the expert uh said ninety five percent.
Dana Sosa: Ninety
Eduardo Leigh: Well this
Dana Sosa: five
Eduardo Leigh: is still
Dana Sosa: percent is not good enough
Eduardo Leigh: is
Dana Sosa: though.
Eduardo Leigh: is very bad. So, this is the end of this discussion. Next meeting uh here are the task you have to work on. Um so you have to work on the component uh concept.
Ryan Mooney: Okay.
Eduardo Leigh: Uh you have to work on user interface, and you have to go through a trend watching. Okay. So the question is still open about the L_C_D_ thing. Um uh we I hope that next meeting we will uh we'll take some um decision that direction. Thanks.
Dana Sosa: Yep.
Eduardo Leigh: Bye. | Eduardo Leigh opens the meeting stating that they will address the functional design of the remote and saying they are still undecided about whether it should be universal or specific. He suggests they name the project and they come up with "mando", meaning "control" in Spanish. Mathew Bishop presents some research done on user opinions of remotes. He suggests the use of using voice recognition or an LCD, which they discuss despite concerns about budget limitation. Ryan Mooney presents, showing examples of existing products and suggesting they add a scroll wheel for channel-changing. He says Internet capability might be necessary for an LCD and then brings up button size, suggesting having a flip-open door with extra buttons under it. They discuss voice recognition again, and then the interface specialist presents. He suggests they have two types of user interfaces and brings up that voice recognition would increase production price. They talk about the budget limitations on features and then Eduardo Leigh summarizes decisios made and closes the meeting by teeling each group member what he should work on. | 3 | amisum | test |
Gerald Cornett: Okay? Good afternoon. Hope
David Bala: Afternoon.
Gerald Cornett: you have
Frank Vorhies: Hi.
Gerald Cornett: good lunch.
David Bala: Yeah, we had falafel.
Gerald Cornett: Oh. Nice. And you?
Frank Vorhies: Uh, yes, I had something similar non-vegetarian.
Gerald Cornett: Okay. So today is um our third meeting. It will be about the conceptual design uh. If I come back to uh the minutes of the last meetings um. We decided not to go for speech recognition technologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on on the remote control because of costs. So maybe we wi be to clarify this question to today. Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point. So I hope uh that your respective pr presentations uh will help us. So each of you have some presentatio presentation to perform um who starts?
Luis Harris: Okay,
Gerald Cornett: So marketing. So you are you saved your y your presentation somewhere?
Luis Harris: Yep.
Gerald Cornett: So you're four?
Luis Harris: Four yeah,
Gerald Cornett: Which is trend watch. Okay. Mr Marketing Experts.
Luis Harris: Yeah that's Luis Harris.
Gerald Cornett: So
Luis Harris: Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends?
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Yeah?
Gerald Cornett: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: Okay. Okay. Well wha what I found um can you
Gerald Cornett: Next slide?
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking, but the most what they what they find more more interesting, more or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel. So now more more cool aspect, ma more a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things, a device which is pleasant to to watch, to see.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Luis Harris: Uh also Well in in Euro in in Paris and and Milan the in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of uh of clothes, furniture and all this all this fashion it's it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.
Gerald Cornett: Mm.
Luis Harris: And also in the in the U_S_A_ the the current the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge?
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: So maybe we should we should think in in this direction, so
Frank Vorhies: What what do you mean by fruit and vegetables and spongy? What
David Bala: Spongy
Frank Vorhies: you mean
David Bala: means
Frank Vorhies: clothe
David Bala: it it's like
Luis Harris: Fruit
David Bala: sp
Luis Harris: vegetables is the the new have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan?
Frank Vorhies: No, I missed that one.
Luis Harris: Yeah, I I didn't miss an I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit, there are many fr pictures of fruits and vegetables in the
Frank Vorhies: Oh,
Luis Harris: clothes.
Frank Vorhies: they're okay so they're not like dressed as a carrot they just have
Luis Harris: No no,
Frank Vorhies: like
Luis Harris: not not yet, not
Frank Vorhies: pictures
Luis Harris: yet.
Frank Vorhies: of fruit on,
Luis Harris: Yeah,
Frank Vorhies: okay.
Luis Harris: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: So
Luis Harris: So
Frank Vorhies: we're not gonna
Luis Harris: te
Frank Vorhies: have a remote
Luis Harris: textu
Frank Vorhies: control
Luis Harris: textures,
Frank Vorhies: in the shape of
Luis Harris: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: of a banana, just
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: maybe
Luis Harris: Vegetable textures and all this kind.
Gerald Cornett: Drawings of bananas.
Luis Harris: Uh
Frank Vorhies: Okay and
Gerald Cornett: Uh-huh.
Luis Harris: yeah, yeah.
David Bala: But what's your suggestion how we can have some shape like that on the
Gerald Cornett: Well
David Bala: remote?
Gerald Cornett: so this is in the next slide certainly.
Luis Harris: Uh no no, it's not.
Gerald Cornett: It's not?
Luis Harris: It's And
Frank Vorhies: which fruit are you thinking of
Luis Harris: Um. I ha I haven't thought of any particular fruit, but the general aspect of the of the remote control may may could remind some kind of vegetable, some kind of instead of vegetable, some natur mm uh natural object or something.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: But yeah it it
Gerald Cornett: So maybe
Luis Harris: depends
Gerald Cornett: you
Luis Harris: on
Gerald Cornett: maybe
Luis Harris: the
Gerald Cornett: you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.
Frank Vorhies: Oh, so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit, or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the
David Bala: Means buttons are
Luis Harris: Yeah
David Bala: in the
Luis Harris: maybe
David Bala: shape
Luis Harris: the
David Bala: of
Luis Harris: shape
David Bala: fruits,
Luis Harris: the shape
David Bala: buttons are in the frape shape of fruits or something, apple, banana, something like that.
Luis Harris: No, not n
Gerald Cornett: Apple for
Luis Harris: not
Gerald Cornett: channel
Luis Harris: not too
Gerald Cornett: one.
Luis Harris: much focus, not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the
Frank Vorhies: So
Luis Harris: trend
Frank Vorhies: something
Luis Harris: but
Frank Vorhies: that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.
Luis Harris: For instance, yeah. African or as an elephant?
David Bala: That we can discuss afterwards.
Frank Vorhies: But okay, I'm
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: not, I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though, maybe just to fashion gurus, like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner, but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic
Luis Harris: Well
Frank Vorhies: a,
Luis Harris: ma
Frank Vorhies: an
Luis Harris: maybe
Frank Vorhies: orange is.
Luis Harris: we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new
Frank Vorhies: To fruit?
Luis Harris: devi new devices and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.
Frank Vorhies: But is it uh is fruit cool?
Luis Harris: What?
Gerald Cornett: That's a question.
Luis Harris: What?
Frank Vorhies: Is fruit cool?
Luis Harris: Yeah? Uh Is the new trend of the
Frank Vorhies: Well I guess, you know, Apple has the iPod so, imagi just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product, doesn't mean fruit is cool.
Luis Harris: No I think we we should think about a a shape with it a device with a shape of some
Frank Vorhies: Okay, but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know, you don't wanna pear or a
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: watermelon.
Luis Harris: Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy
Frank Vorhies: Well,
Luis Harris: to
Frank Vorhies: probably
Luis Harris: use?
Frank Vorhies: the only thing is a banana
David Bala: Banana.
Frank Vorhies: that I can think of, a cucumber.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: I
Luis Harris: Or
Frank Vorhies: dunno.
Luis Harris: m
Gerald Cornett: Maybe too long.
Frank Vorhies: Maybe. Too green.
Luis Harris: Maybe.
Frank Vorhies: So, but
Gerald Cornett: A
Frank Vorhies: I mean you
Gerald Cornett: banana.
Frank Vorhies: also have to you have to also
Luis Harris: Um
Frank Vorhies: have, fit r all the buttons and you know. It's, it
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons, they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.
David Bala: I don't th it will
Luis Harris: Yeah
David Bala: be
Luis Harris: but
David Bala: rolling
Luis Harris: I li
David Bala: a lot.
Luis Harris: I like your idea
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Luis Harris: that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Luis Harris: b
Gerald Cornett: and
Luis Harris: buttons
Gerald Cornett: you you
Luis Harris: so
Gerald Cornett: you will not have pla enough a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros?
Gerald Cornett: Well,
Frank Vorhies: Well,
Gerald Cornett: you're
Frank Vorhies: this
Gerald Cornett: the
Frank Vorhies: is
Gerald Cornett: Marketing Expert you should tell us if it
Luis Harris: I
Gerald Cornett: is too much
Luis Harris: think
Gerald Cornett: or not.
Luis Harris: Well, according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation, so,
Gerald Cornett: So
Luis Harris: I will give more importance to the look and feel than rather than the
Gerald Cornett: So you you
Luis Harris: new
Gerald Cornett: you suggest
Luis Harris: inputs
Gerald Cornett: to go
Luis Harris: and also
Gerald Cornett: f
Luis Harris: it's I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection, you need more things, it's not just buying a new control re
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Luis Harris: remote, you need buying control remote, buying uh more
Gerald Cornett: S
Luis Harris: things.
Gerald Cornett: so
Luis Harris: It's
Gerald Cornett: you're simply
Luis Harris: not so simple.
Gerald Cornett: you're simply looking s to a remote control that looks like a banana with
Luis Harris: For instance,
Gerald Cornett: few buttons
Luis Harris: yeah.
Gerald Cornett: with
Luis Harris: Yeah
Gerald Cornett: only
Luis Harris: for
Gerald Cornett: a few
Luis Harris: for
Gerald Cornett: buttons.
Luis Harris: for given an an example yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Okay good. So maybe you can go ahead?
Luis Harris: Yeah no, it's what I already said.
Gerald Cornett: Okay. Thanks. Um. Okay, I'll give the floor. So you are User Interface guy.
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: So you're three?
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: And it's this one.
Frank Vorhies: Yep.
Gerald Cornett: Go for it.
Frank Vorhies: Yep. Okay. So. S next uh slide. Okay. So I received an email um around lunchtime letting Luis Harris know that the brilliant minds at our technology division had developed an integrated programmable sample sensor sample speaker unit, um which is a way for you to have a conversation with your coffee machine and or remote control.
David Bala: But it's just a
Frank Vorhies: It's no, what it is, it's
David Bala: It's
Frank Vorhies: it's
David Bala: not a
Frank Vorhies: very
David Bala: microphone.
Frank Vorhies: It has a has a microphone, has a speaker, it's got a little chip and
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: it allows you
David Bala: Actually
Frank Vorhies: t
David Bala: I'm not reading microphone there, so that's why you can all have conversation,
Frank Vorhies: Well, it's
David Bala: it
Frank Vorhies: a sample
David Bala: just to speak to you.
Frank Vorhies: sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: that it can recognize, it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: and then can play back a
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: phrase in response to that.
David Bala: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase.
David Bala: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: So, I mean, you know, I guess you could build that in, you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on
David Bala: Mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: the remote
David Bala: mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: control.
David Bala: mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: But basically the thing is, we have this technology available
David Bala: In-house.
Frank Vorhies: in-house. So,
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: um but the thing is obviously there's still gonna be a cost if you
David Bala: Mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: decided to integrate that because
David Bala: mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: you still have to pay for the c production of the components, so um it it but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.
David Bala: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: Whilst you know, some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it,
Gerald Cornett: I there's something that I unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords speech keywords?
Frank Vorhies: It's it it's no, well, it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords, but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh, for a certain phrase, you say the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is, you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning,
Gerald Cornett: And
Frank Vorhies: how
Gerald Cornett: it's
Frank Vorhies: would
Gerald Cornett: just
Frank Vorhies: you like
Gerald Cornett: to,
Frank Vorhies: your coffee?
Gerald Cornett: it's just to playback something?
Frank Vorhies: Yeah. So actually that was a bad example, 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response,
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Frank Vorhies: so.
Gerald Cornett: yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.
Frank Vorhies: Only, like, only in the sense that it it can recognize a set
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: a set target
Gerald Cornett: This
Frank Vorhies: kind
Gerald Cornett: is just
Frank Vorhies: of word
Gerald Cornett: more
Frank Vorhies: an
Gerald Cornett: like a poi
Frank Vorhies: It's designed
Gerald Cornett: pois
Frank Vorhies: it's
Gerald Cornett: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: designed as a fun kind of thing,
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Frank Vorhies: but I guess
Gerald Cornett: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh
Gerald Cornett: So
Luis Harris: Yeah but
Gerald Cornett: it it's c uh it it it
Luis Harris: you
Gerald Cornett: is
Luis Harris: can
Gerald Cornett: a
Luis Harris: u
Gerald Cornett: uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to we can bring to the remote control that will not have any
Frank Vorhies: Completely
Gerald Cornett: uh
Frank Vorhies: pointless yeah.
Gerald Cornett: yeah comp completely pointless
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: for the inter for from the interaction point of v point of view.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, unless you know, you like having conversation with your remote control.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Luis Harris: Yeah but the can we use it for saying okay, channel fifty,
Frank Vorhies: Well
Luis Harris: channel
Frank Vorhies: yeah, that's the
Luis Harris: twenty?
Frank Vorhies: thing, if you can but you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination, you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen, that whole thing, not just the word channel and the
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Frank Vorhies: word fifteen, it doesn't
Gerald Cornett: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: have that
Gerald Cornett: So
Frank Vorhies: kind of logic
Gerald Cornett: this is
Frank Vorhies: in it.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: so this
Frank Vorhies: So
Gerald Cornett: is this is much more than tak taking this technology, bringing it to the remote control and using it. So this is out of discussion.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: So if if if it is something that you can we can bring easily and to put it into the banana remote control
Luis Harris: M Mando.
Frank Vorhies: Banana-mando.
Gerald Cornett: No this is mm banana-bando,
Luis Harris: Banana-mando
Frank Vorhies: Banana-man
Luis Harris: yeah.
Gerald Cornett: yeah. Uh then it could be cool yeah.
David Bala: Yeah okay, let's go ahead.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: I uh I I I don't think it's worth it though, I think it doesn't really add much to the functional design and it's it's it's not mature enough to use as a speech recognition engine,
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: so Um, yeah. So if we can just move on to the next slide, I've just done a quick mock-up of uh uh some of the features of our potential funky-looking uh
Gerald Cornett: It doesn't
Frank Vorhies: remote
Gerald Cornett: look like
Frank Vorhies: control
Gerald Cornett: a banana at all.
Frank Vorhies: Well, you see, I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus,
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: um, so
Gerald Cornett: But
Frank Vorhies: at the
Gerald Cornett: you
Frank Vorhies: moment
Luis Harris: Looks
Frank Vorhies: it's more
Luis Harris: like
Gerald Cornett: you
Luis Harris: a
Frank Vorhies: of
Gerald Cornett: can
Luis Harris: tr
Frank Vorhies: a
Gerald Cornett: fit
Frank Vorhies: box
Gerald Cornett: i
Frank Vorhies: focus.
Luis Harris: look likes
Gerald Cornett: you're saying
Luis Harris: a
Gerald Cornett: now you can
Luis Harris: a tro
Gerald Cornett: fit
Luis Harris: a
Gerald Cornett: it
Luis Harris: tropical
Gerald Cornett: to
Luis Harris: fruit.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, well, this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes. But um, I've just indicated here, we could have actually two scroll wheels, 'cause I think the scroll wheel is a fairly um
David Bala: Stable
Frank Vorhies: key part
David Bala: thing, that's
Frank Vorhies: of,
David Bala: right.
Frank Vorhies: you know, I think
David Bala: To
Frank Vorhies: everyone
David Bala: have,
Frank Vorhies: has has agreed that it's that it could
David Bala: mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: be quite a useful um
David Bala: mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: thing, so. But I think it's important, you know, to have two scroll wheels because, you know, you want one for for the channel, but you also want one for for the volume,
Gerald Cornett: Mm.
Frank Vorhies: because it's it's the volume i it's, you know it's very handy for it to have uh instant kind
David Bala: Mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: of uh feedback
David Bala: mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: uh and response, so. But um, I've also included this turbo button because I think, you know, every design should have a turbo button,
Luis Harris: What's a turbo
Frank Vorhies: and
Luis Harris: button?
Frank Vorhies: well so this is you know, a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television, the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll, so you know, the th the person might want to have a uh Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them, in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then, you know, displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it, even if it lags behind what they're doing.
Luis Harris: It con it controls the speed?
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, so with this turbo button you can, say, skip over t channels if uh, you know, if I'm if I'm going if I'm scrolling past them and you know, it's um, you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever. So yeah, that's um, those are the two important uh features I think
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: we need on the remote, but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need, um. You know, i it could be, you know, if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device, I mean, we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very, if it's gonna be a banana, you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality, it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a
Gerald Cornett: It's enough.
Frank Vorhies: banana and it's still very it may even be for most for some people more functional than their current remote, but if they have these scroll wheels, so, um you know, what other buttons do we want?
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: I mean we could have well, I guess you need an on and off
Gerald Cornett: Switch
Frank Vorhies: switch,
Gerald Cornett: on.
Frank Vorhies: but you could
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe, you know, it's kind of
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: like a spy
Luis Harris: So
Frank Vorhies: kind of flick thing.
Luis Harris: sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.
Frank Vorhies: That's why you're a marketing
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
Luis Harris: Yeah,
Frank Vorhies: guru.
Gerald Cornett: So
Luis Harris: of course.
Gerald Cornett: i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.
Frank Vorhies: Well, that's the thing, as have we decided that we can only spend, uh, twenty five Euro?
Gerald Cornett: I think
Frank Vorhies: Well not spend,
Gerald Cornett: that
Frank Vorhies: but you know, charge twenty five Euro.
Luis Harris: I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.
Gerald Cornett: No we can we can't use that.
Luis Harris: You we can?
Gerald Cornett: We
Luis Harris: We
Gerald Cornett: can't
Luis Harris: can't.
Gerald Cornett: use that to
David Bala: Communicate.
Gerald Cornett: to comman co communicate, it's just
Luis Harris: Yeah,
Gerald Cornett: a
Luis Harris: but
Gerald Cornett: thing
Luis Harris: we can say
David Bala: It's one
Luis Harris: channel
David Bala: way.
Luis Harris: twenty five.
Gerald Cornett: No.
Luis Harris: No?
Frank Vorhies: But then you have to have a template for every channel, for a hundred channels, you have to be able to to recognize
Luis Harris: It's
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: not a lot one
Frank Vorhies: Mm.
Luis Harris: hundred templates, it's
Frank Vorhies: Well,
Luis Harris: not
Frank Vorhies: I f I think it's probably more than, than our can handle because
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: it's designed for a coffee machine, you know, to say hello in the morning.
Luis Harris: Ah, it's designed for a cof okay. Is it design for a coffee machine?
Frank Vorhies: Well that's its current application, I would presume
Luis Harris: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: that it's kind of, they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: th so.
Luis Harris: Maybe you could ask your the you could ask the engineering department
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: if
Gerald Cornett: A
Luis Harris: we
Gerald Cornett: good
Luis Harris: can
Gerald Cornett: good good
Frank Vorhies: But
Gerald Cornett: thing. You
Frank Vorhies: uh
Gerald Cornett: want to g to move
David Bala: Yeah,
Gerald Cornett: to your
David Bala: that's right,
Gerald Cornett: slides?
David Bala: yeah.
Gerald Cornett: You're finished?
Frank Vorhies: Well I just I just made the point, I don't I don't know if that speech recognition is, you know, even if we can do it, I think it's not really appropriate for uh
Gerald Cornett: Yeah I think so.
Frank Vorhies: television environment. But um I did have one thing from a previous meeting, you were talking about um
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: being able to find the remote control and I was talking about extendin being able to extend the remote control by having you know, a base station that can control other things as well.
Gerald Cornett: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: It might be useful to have some kind of base station, even if it's just you press on a button on it and uh and the remote control starts beeping, you know, this is a way of finding the remote. Y in that
Gerald Cornett: Mm.
Frank Vorhies: case maybe the maybe the speech recognition the speech thing could be useful just to say
Gerald Cornett: Exactly yeah.
Frank Vorhies: I'm here but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a
David Bala: So it's a
Frank Vorhies: a
David Bala: speech
Frank Vorhies: beeping
David Bala: synthesis kind of thing, something has
Frank Vorhies: It's
David Bala: been uh stored
Frank Vorhies: speech
David Bala: and it's just uh spoken out.
Frank Vorhies: It's it's speech synthesis and s
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: it's speech kind of, not really speech recognition, but
David Bala: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: kind of pattern
David Bala: That's right.
Frank Vorhies: matching, yeah
Gerald Cornett: Oh, good idea.
Frank Vorhies: yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Very good. Okay, let's move on. So you're two?
David Bala: That's right.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
David Bala: So this is going to be about the component design.
Gerald Cornett: Mm-hmm.
David Bala: So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies, one is the usual batteries which are there, they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells, when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces, there should be some flexibility in t
Frank Vorhies: I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
David Bala: Yeah. So there should we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.
Frank Vorhies: So, just one second, when you say double curve, what do you actually mean? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the, on the whiteboard
David Bala: Double
Frank Vorhies: 'cause I'm
David Bala: curve
Frank Vorhies: not sure
David Bala: is, you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing, whatever it is.
Frank Vorhies: Okay, but like,
David Bala: So,
Frank Vorhies: kind of convex
David Bala: it could
Frank Vorhies: or concave?
David Bala: be curve, so it could be convex, conve concave, depending on
Frank Vorhies: Mm-hmm.
David Bala: what what we want.
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: So there are flats, there are single curve and there are double curves.
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: These are the three things, and there are different materials, with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood, titanium and all those things, but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one,
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
David Bala: it'll bring the cost down and anyway it's
Frank Vorhies: Although, you know, wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option, if you take like, nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you
Gerald Cornett: Mm
Frank Vorhies: kind of put
Gerald Cornett: but
Frank Vorhies: some,
Gerald Cornett: i
Frank Vorhies: some
Gerald Cornett: but
Frank Vorhies: varnish
Gerald Cornett: there is
Frank Vorhies: on.
Gerald Cornett: no elasticity which
David Bala: Wooden
Gerald Cornett: could
David Bala: cases
Gerald Cornett: be
Frank Vorhies: Well it depends, I mean, you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Frank Vorhies: broken,
Gerald Cornett: but the
Frank Vorhies: it's
Gerald Cornett: components
Frank Vorhies: the inside.
Gerald Cornett: inside.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah but inside you know you could have you can still have some kind of cushioning that's
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: not visible to the to the user.
Gerald Cornett: Very
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: too expensive to do.
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: And I mean you
Gerald Cornett: And
Frank Vorhies: could
Gerald Cornett: also
Frank Vorhies: also,
Gerald Cornett: uh
Frank Vorhies: you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.
Frank Vorhies: That's true, but are we set on the banana idea?
Luis Harris: Actually
Gerald Cornett: Well it look like it
Luis Harris: I was
Gerald Cornett: looks
Luis Harris: thinking
Gerald Cornett: like you
Luis Harris: that
Gerald Cornett: are all
Luis Harris: the
Gerald Cornett: targeting that yeah?
Luis Harris: the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.
Gerald Cornett: Yes it is.
Luis Harris: Uh I don't know the name o o in English uh
David Bala: Is it
Luis Harris: This
David Bala: an e
Luis Harris: it's
David Bala: apple
Luis Harris: not a
David Bala: which
Luis Harris: fruit
David Bala: has
Luis Harris: it's a vegetable.
Frank Vorhies: It's like a pumpkin or
Gerald Cornett: Yeah? Pumpkin.
Luis Harris: Green.
Frank Vorhies: Green.
Gerald Cornett: Green. Um um um, yes I see.
Frank Vorhies: What does it taste
Luis Harris: And you
Frank Vorhies: like?
Luis Harris: put in the salad.
Gerald Cornett: Pep pepperoni.
Luis Harris: Um
Frank Vorhies: Ah yeah, is it what's it in French?
Gerald Cornett: Poivron.
Luis Harris: Oui c'est ca
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, okay, so capsicum or pepper.
Gerald Cornett: Uh pepper.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Pepper.
Gerald Cornett: But um they do
Luis Harris: And it's
Gerald Cornett: d
Luis Harris: al it also suits with the double curve for
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: easy of
Frank Vorhies: I don't know, it seems a little bit kind of bulky to Luis Harris,
Luis Harris: No,
Frank Vorhies: like
Luis Harris: I
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: mean in a
Gerald Cornett: It's not re
Frank Vorhies: like
Gerald Cornett: it
Frank Vorhies: with
Gerald Cornett: you
Frank Vorhies: a banana
Gerald Cornett: you
Frank Vorhies: you
Gerald Cornett: think
Frank Vorhies: can
Gerald Cornett: it's
Frank Vorhies: have
Gerald Cornett: really fancy and fun? You think that young people
Luis Harris: I'm sure
Gerald Cornett: that are
Luis Harris: it's fun.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah. More than a banana?
Luis Harris: But banana is not so handy,
David Bala: Banana
Frank Vorhies: Well
Luis Harris: I think
David Bala: is
Luis Harris: that's
David Bala: more
Luis Harris: handier.
David Bala: handier as compared to this I think, and to capsicum.
Frank Vorhies: But like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top and
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: just roll it back and forth like
Gerald Cornett: It's
Frank Vorhies: that,
Gerald Cornett: kind
Frank Vorhies: but with
Gerald Cornett: it's
Frank Vorhies: uh
Gerald Cornett: kind of
Frank Vorhies: I
Gerald Cornett: it's
Frank Vorhies: don't
Gerald Cornett: more
Frank Vorhies: know how you would hold
Gerald Cornett: uh
Frank Vorhies: a capsicum and
Gerald Cornett: it's really ergonomic, it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to to put the controls. Okay let's move
Luis Harris: Yeah
Gerald Cornett: on.
Luis Harris: you're right.
Gerald Cornett: So time is running, let's move on.
David Bala: Okay, so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated, just and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection, volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
David Bala: Yeah, we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips, one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us, that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support, so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.
Frank Vorhies: So is that, when you say speaker support, you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind
David Bala: It
Frank Vorhies: of
David Bala: could be a beep kind of thing.
Frank Vorhies: Okay, but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way, or is just
David Bala: Yes,
Frank Vorhies: the the
David Bala: yes,
Frank Vorhies: signal?
David Bala: that's
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: right, it's it's onto the chip, most most probably, not
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: not hundred per cent sure about
Frank Vorhies: So
David Bala: that.
Frank Vorhies: are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana?
David Bala: That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be whatever will be the case,
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: the chip is always going to be sitting inside.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, but the speaker, if the speaker is actually on the chip,
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: then if it's too far away from the the casing, or if the casing is too thick, then you may not hear the
David Bala: Uh,
Frank Vorhies: the speaker.
David Bala: so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
David Bala: As or as hearing is concerned, we can have some gap at some place,
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
David Bala: so
Frank Vorhies: So
David Bala: that
Frank Vorhies: that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the
David Bala: That's right.
Frank Vorhies: the speaker close enough to the outside.
David Bala: Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web, that user wants to have control more than one device wants to control more than one device from the same remote control, so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_, because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything, so with
Frank Vorhies: Although,
David Bala: this additional
Frank Vorhies: if
David Bala: little, we might be having slightly better market for us.
Frank Vorhies: It depends, if we like, if we are concentrating on like a fruit design, then maybe
David Bala: Mm.
Frank Vorhies: maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit,
David Bala: Of fruits.
Frank Vorhies: you know, like a different fruit for each device.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Frank Vorhies: Cause that, you know, that sometimes people like to collect um
David Bala: Remotes
Gerald Cornett: S objects.
Frank Vorhies: you know
David Bala: objects,
Frank Vorhies: things that
David Bala: okay.
Frank Vorhies: of a similar
Gerald Cornett: Crazy objects.
Luis Harris: I think that would
Frank Vorhies: type.
Luis Harris: be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.
Frank Vorhies: Well, you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the
Luis Harris: No
Frank Vorhies: first
Luis Harris: but
Frank Vorhies: place.
Luis Harris: I think just one fruit to control everything.
Frank Vorhies: Like a power fruit.
Luis Harris: A power fr a power M a Mando, a Supermando fruit.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
David Bala: s and we should have it on the remote.
Luis Harris: Actually
Frank Vorhies: Well
Gerald Cornett: Okay,
Luis Harris: I
Gerald Cornett: good.
Luis Harris: I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control.
David Bala: So you're having a basis station. Okay. Your usually your remote sits on that. So you and it's that's why it can have chargeable batteries. Now let's
Luis Harris: So
David Bala: say
Luis Harris: you you have to buy two things, the banana and the basis
Gerald Cornett: Bu
Luis Harris: station.
Gerald Cornett: it's
David Bala: Basis station
Gerald Cornett: it's.
David Bala: is with the thing.
Gerald Cornett: You s you you thing.
David Bala: It's like a telephone handset is there and the basis station for the telephone hand set is there. So now what user gets additionally he doesn't have to buy batteries, they're rechargeable batteries, so over the period of cor time he'll recover the cost. So you're having the basis station and there is a button, if you press that button wherever the remote it'll start beeping so you know where the remote is.
Frank Vorhies: I
David Bala: Uh
Frank Vorhies: think that's a pretty handy feature.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: I think it's kind of people would find that worth it even if it wasn't uh a recharging station, even
David Bala: Mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: if they didn't
David Bala: mm-hmm,
Frank Vorhies: have to buy extra batteries, you know.
David Bala: mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Luis Harris: Yeah but
Frank Vorhies: So
Luis Harris: I'm a bit worried about the budget.
David Bala: Uh this is basis station is nothing more, just it's a wire which is coming from the main cable
Gerald Cornett: Mm-hmm.
David Bala: and uh you're having one socket on which the thing sits.
Frank Vorhies: Although you do need to include R_F_ kind of
David Bala: That's right.
Frank Vorhies: circuitry in
David Bala: But
Frank Vorhies: the remote.
David Bala: all these things are usually in-house so we don't have much problems. So component cost is going to be the least. Anyway, we are not using really advanced technology, L_C_D_ has already been ruled out, A_S_R_ has been ruled out. So it's the basic thing but very trendy and very user-friendly.
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: And
Frank Vorhies: I'm just wondering actually, 'cause, you know, I this whole fruit thing with the banana, it's um it seemed like it first seems a bit kind of uh niche, like only a few people would really want a banana, but what if it was kind of uh a stylised banana? You know, rather than having it kind of you know yellow and really looking exactly like a banana, you could make it kind of silver. And um, you know to give you kind of the idea of a banana but without it looking you know completely kitsch. For better want of a better word you know?
Gerald Cornett: You
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: think that yellow it's kitsch.
Frank Vorhies: Well, you know, I don
Gerald Cornett: If
Frank Vorhies: I don't
Luis Harris: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: know how
Gerald Cornett: you
Frank Vorhies: many
Gerald Cornett: make
Frank Vorhies: peop
Gerald Cornett: something that looks like a banana it should
Luis Harris: No,
Gerald Cornett: have
Luis Harris: I
Gerald Cornett: the
Luis Harris: I
Gerald Cornett: colour of a banana.
David Bala: A yeah, otherwise
Frank Vorhies: Well
David Bala: it'll be
Frank Vorhies: they
David Bala: mis
Gerald Cornett: O otherwise
David Bala: means you don't get
Luis Harris: Maybe
David Bala: b any feeling
Luis Harris: li like
David Bala: then.
Luis Harris: that.
David Bala: It's neither a
Frank Vorhies: Yeah,
David Bala: banana
Frank Vorhies: like this
David Bala: nor
Frank Vorhies: colour
David Bala: a
Frank Vorhies: this colour Maybe, you know, maybe like still in the shape of a banana.
Gerald Cornett: Roughly.
Frank Vorhies: No, exactly. Exactly. Um, but you know, just maybe maybe not exactly the same texture as a banana and just kind of, you know because the thing is it's gonna be a little bit difficult to make um to give like the texture of a banana anyway and to k to have the exact shape. I think if you're gonna not be able to do it properly you may as well do it in a stylised way that just looks a bit more kind of, you know, twenty first century rather than
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: sixties or seventies.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
David Bala: And
Gerald Cornett: Let's
David Bala: uh
Gerald Cornett: move on. Uh
David Bala: going to
Gerald Cornett: uh
David Bala: the last slide.
Gerald Cornett: yeah. the meeting I'd like to to draw some sketch about the pro future prot prototype.
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: Go for it.
David Bala: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: Well no, not not you, you can finish
David Bala: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: your slides
David Bala: Okay,
Gerald Cornett: before
David Bala: so. Anyway, users'll be so the findings is users'll be very interested in our locator device to find their misplaced
Gerald Cornett: Mm
David Bala: remotes.
Gerald Cornett: okay.
David Bala: So that was very I thought it's a very good suggestion by everybody.
Gerald Cornett: Okay.
David Bala: That's it.
Gerald Cornett: That's all?
David Bala: Yep.
Gerald Cornett: Okay, so mm so well done for the presentations. So we need to take some de decisions about um about what we're going to do. So I I propose that you go to the whiteboard
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: and we're going to report all the ideas we had we had during this these presentations just to draw some sketch about
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: what will be the prod final product and uh where Superman go banana and uh uh extra
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: func functionalities such as wheels, um the speaker unit um well not in order not to lost the um the device, I do I don't remember you
David Bala: That's
Gerald Cornett: call
David Bala: right.
Gerald Cornett: it?
David Bala: The basis station.
Gerald Cornett: Basis
David Bala: That's
Gerald Cornett: station, yeah.
David Bala: right.
Gerald Cornett: Uh so um so we're going for a stylish banana shape.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, so, I guess you wanna hold like the way the end of the banana you wanna kind of hold as ma you maybe wanna kinda hold like a gun rather than 'cause you don't want it to point kind of
Gerald Cornett: Yeah,
Frank Vorhies: towards the floor.
Gerald Cornett: right.
Frank Vorhies: So you know, so if you have like
Luis Harris: What about what about this shape? More or less.
Gerald Cornett: We
David Bala: There's less space on this to put with the buttons.
Gerald Cornett: I if it
Luis Harris: Yeah,
Gerald Cornett: i
Luis Harris: but
Gerald Cornett: if it has
Luis Harris: how
Gerald Cornett: really
Luis Harris: many
Gerald Cornett: the
Luis Harris: buttons
Gerald Cornett: model
Luis Harris: do
Gerald Cornett: shape
Luis Harris: we need?
Gerald Cornett: of a bana you could the the starting is good but it could it should have more the shape of a banana if you want to point really a at the thing. If you don't want to to to do that movement which is which is difficult if you don't have to do it in fact, it's better.
David Bala: Uh
Gerald Cornett: So
David Bala: what about
Gerald Cornett: ti
David Bala: a
Gerald Cornett: time is running, we have to we have to we have to to move forward. So let's skip to uh this uh this this this idea. Yeah.
Frank Vorhies: Okay, so
Gerald Cornett: So
Frank Vorhies: So
Gerald Cornett: we have this. We have a a basis um, how do you call it?
David Bala: The base station.
Gerald Cornett: A base station.
David Bala: Right.
Gerald Cornett: We'll have a base station extra uh on the side.
Frank Vorhies: okay, so I guess we need, you know, something that can fit a banana shaped object.
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
David Bala: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Uh, we have a R_F_ for um for beeping
David Bala: That's right, yeah,
Gerald Cornett: for beeping.
David Bala: we need that, yeah.
Gerald Cornett: We need b R_F_ to
Frank Vorhies: Okay,
Gerald Cornett: beep.
Frank Vorhies: so it's
Gerald Cornett: So
Frank Vorhies: uh
Gerald Cornett: we that means we need a button on th on the on the basis.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
David Bala: Basis station.
Gerald Cornett: Basis station,
David Bala: Yeah,
Gerald Cornett: thank you.
David Bala: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: Alright, so we need uh okay.
Gerald Cornett: Can
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: you go quickly please? Okay. So we are going to add uh also um you as you suggested the whee some wheels to control the volumes and channels
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: and your tur turbo turbo uh
Frank Vorhies: Yeah,
Gerald Cornett: button.
David Bala: Turbo
Frank Vorhies: which
David Bala: button.
Frank Vorhies: I think it's it's probably best actually on the on the underneath of the
Gerald Cornett: Yeah, on the
Frank Vorhies: the
Gerald Cornett: th
Frank Vorhies: device, so you have
Gerald Cornett: yeah, maybe here. And
Frank Vorhies: Yes.
Gerald Cornett: the and the wheel a a at the level of the thumb for instance.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, so you have the thumb kind of here.
Gerald Cornett: And and you have two wheels.
Frank Vorhies: So yeah, you need one one here and one on on the other side,
Gerald Cornett: Okay right.
Frank Vorhies: so you got volume an and channel.
Gerald Cornett: Good.
Frank Vorhies: And,
Gerald Cornett: So
Frank Vorhies: uh
Gerald Cornett: no L_C_D_.
Frank Vorhies: No L_C_D_.
Gerald Cornett: Okay great. Um. Very good.
David Bala: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: Oh we need a we need a power um on off switch as well.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
David Bala: Uh for the remote?
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Oh, just
David Bala: Remotes
Gerald Cornett: the switch,
David Bala: don't
Gerald Cornett: no f
David Bala: have power
Gerald Cornett: not for
David Bala: on
Gerald Cornett: the
David Bala: off
Gerald Cornett: T_V_
David Bala: switch.
Gerald Cornett: for the T_V_.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah.
Gerald Cornett: Uh
David Bala: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: so
David Bala: S
Gerald Cornett: you
David Bala: no, that'll be controlled by the
Luis Harris: What
David Bala: those buttons'll be
Luis Harris: a
David Bala: there already, yeah.
Frank Vorhies: Where?
David Bala: Means on
Gerald Cornett: On the
David Bala: the
Gerald Cornett: side.
David Bala: remote. Because
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: remote is going to have both the interfaces, scroll as well as buttons. They are not going to cost you much, everything is in-house and now you don't want the traditional users to be apprehensive of this.
Frank Vorhies: Well, I dunno if the traditional user is gonna buy a a banana remote
David Bala: Oh,
Frank Vorhies: in the
David Bala: yeah.
Frank Vorhies: first place, you
David Bala: That's
Frank Vorhies: know.
David Bala: that's another issue which
Frank Vorhies: Y
David Bala: I
Frank Vorhies: I mean
David Bala: didn't think of.
Frank Vorhies: you need to kind of keep it um
David Bala: But you know our targets are very high, means fifty million Euros is the profit which we want
Luis Harris: What
David Bala: make.
Luis Harris: about
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, how many of these did we wanna sell? I can't remember,
David Bala: Twenty
Frank Vorhies: what was
David Bala: five. Twelve point
Gerald Cornett: Twenty
David Bala: five
Gerald Cornett: five.
David Bala: is the profit on one.
Frank Vorhies: Yeah, but how many units did we need to to sell?
David Bala: Uh forty th four.
Luis Harris: Four
David Bala: Point
Luis Harris: millions?
David Bala: point four million?
Frank Vorhies: Four point four million.
David Bala: Point four million.
Frank Vorhies: That's a lot of fruit.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah.
David Bala: In the market.
Luis Harris: What about
Gerald Cornett: So.
Luis Harris: a
Gerald Cornett: Well. No. Time is running, we have to close the meeting in a few
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: minutes. So, okay, the next step, you can come back to your
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: seat. The next step is to go for to f is to go to uh to building a prototype, based on this, okay?
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
Gerald Cornett: So next meeting you guys have to prepare the followi things. You have to uh work on the look and feel uh design and you have to work on the user interface, in fact you two you have to work together
David Bala: Mm-hmm.
Gerald Cornett: to model the first uh f first prototype. Uh Marketing Expert uh have to go to product evaluation. Okay?
Luis Harris: I wo what about adding the this word spotting, keyword spotting recognition saying volume up volume down?
Gerald Cornett: It's too difficult.
Luis Harris: It's too difficult but people like innovation and that's really uh innovative and I don't know if it would cost a lot, just a few five words.
Gerald Cornett: It's not a possi it will not be possible to implement it for the next prototype, so t it's in the next prototype so
Frank Vorhies: Uh.
Gerald Cornett: let's skip it.
Luis Harris: Okay.
David Bala: For the future prototypes.
Gerald Cornett: Yeah, maybe, for the n if if
Frank Vorhies: That can be
Gerald Cornett: if
Frank Vorhies: the t
Gerald Cornett: it it works well, we'll go for
Frank Vorhies: That can
Gerald Cornett: uh
Frank Vorhies: be
Gerald Cornett: an
Frank Vorhies: like
Gerald Cornett: orange
Frank Vorhies: the turbo
Gerald Cornett: one.
Frank Vorhies: banana plus plus
Gerald Cornett: Yeah
Luis Harris: Plus
Frank Vorhies: commando.
Luis Harris: plus, okay.
Gerald Cornett: yeah, honour the fruit.
Luis Harris: Maybe objective banana?
Gerald Cornett: Okay. Thanks very much. We'll see n next meeting. Bye.
David Bala: So meeting's
Frank Vorhies: Okay.
David Bala: over?
Frank Vorhies: Yep.
David Bala: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: We have to go design
David Bala: Okay.
Frank Vorhies: the prototype.
David Bala: Okay. Thank you.
Gerald Cornett: Thank you.
Luis Harris: Thank you.
David Bala: The problem is after all this meeting there is | Gerald Cornett opens the meeting, stating that it is about conceptual design. He restates the last meeting's descision that they will not do speech recognition technology but says they still have to decide whether to use an LCD screen. Then they move on to the three presentations. Luis Harris is first to present, and he talks about making a pleasant-looking device, particularly one that favors current trends. They then begin talking about using a fruit, vegetable, or natural object as the shape of the remote, the logo, or for the buttons. Eventually they decide to make the device the shape of a banana. Next, the user interface specialist presents. He annouces that the technology division of their company has developed an integrated programmeable sample speaker unit, which would allow a person to have a conversation with the remote control. They have the option of using that technology. He shows them his plan what the remote control could look like and the features it might have. He suggests putting two scroll wheels- one for changing the channel and another for the volume. He also included a turbo button for speed, which he thinks every design should have. Since they can only charge twenty-five euro they decide to eliminate the LCD screen idea. After that the interface specialist talks about having a base station for the purpose of finding the remote control when lost. The user could simply press a button on the base station and the remote control would start beeping. Lastly, David Bala presents, discussing the power source of the remote control. He suggests that they could have one of two kinds of power supplies- the usual batteries or rechargable ones if there is to be a base station and they could place solar cells on top for times when the lighting is good. He talks about using plastic with elasticity so that the remote would not break into pieces if it fell, which relates to their earlier discussion about giving it a spongy design. Plastic is also less costly than other options of wood or titanum. In addition, he talks about giving the control a double curve, curves on both the sides so that it is easy to hold and handle. They do not yet seem set about the idea of making it a banana shape, and one group member feels that the shape is not handy. The industrial desiger tells them they will use a regular chip rather than the advanced one since pricing is a factor. They agree on having base station with the remote. They go on to have discussion, with one member suggesting that they make the banana more stylized so that it looks less like a banana- for example, it could be silver. After that Gerald Cornett has them discuss/reiterate the decisions made during the meeting: no LCD screen, the remote will have a base station, a RF for beeping, a button on the base station to press, possibly a stylish banana-shape for the control, 2 scroll wheels to control the volume and channels at the thumb level, a turbo button perhaps underneath the device, on/off button for the TV. | 3 | amisum | test |
James Robinson: So
Bill Heath: So
James Robinson: I hope you're ready for this uh functional design meeting.
Bill Heath: Of course.
James Robinson: Um so I will take the minutes you mm you three are going to do presentation. Um uh we want to know to at the end to know the new project's requirement so we need uh to know the the user uh needs that we want to fulfil to fulfil the from the technical part we want to know how it going to work and um third part uh I don't remember which is not very good. Ah of course how, to to design this uh this
Bill Heath: Nice stuff
James Robinson: yeah. So um let's go for the three presentations, so first
Bill Heath: Who starts?
James Robinson: um Marketing
Bill Heath: Oh. Ha.
James Robinson: Expert.
Bill Heath: okay.
James Robinson: So wait a minute.
Bill Heath: So
James Robinson: Mm.
Bill Heath: I dunno if I can do that like this? Yeah? So it's being modified. Do you want yeah, open. Read only. I hope I saved it. So,
Justin Newsome: Sammy
Bill Heath: um
Justin Newsome: Benjo.
Bill Heath: yeah,
Justin Newsome: I know this
Bill Heath: this
Justin Newsome: name
Bill Heath: is
Justin Newsome: uh
Bill Heath: my name.
James Robinson: Sounds uh
Justin Newsome: We. met
Bill Heath: So
Justin Newsome: before.
Bill Heath: as you know, you I think you already know Bill Heath, Sammy Benjo. I am the expert in marketing I want to tell you uh s want and uh like and dislike in remote controls, and I hope this is going to help you to to design it correctly. So next please. Uh-oh.
James Robinson: Mm
Stephen Mize: Yeah, it
James Robinson: uh.
Stephen Mize: is put F_ five.
James Robinson: Hmm.
Bill Heath: Hmm.
Stephen Mize: The full page presentation,
Bill Heath: Yeah maybe
Stephen Mize: yep.
Bill Heath: in the full page because
Justin Newsome: F_
Bill Heath: i
James Robinson: Okay.
Justin Newsome: F_ five.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: I spent
Stephen Mize: Yep.
Bill Heath: lots of time doing this presentation,
James Robinson: F_ five.
Bill Heath: so.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: Uh-huh hmm okay.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm.
Bill Heath: So basically uh what I suggest is that uh instead of deciding ourself what what could be and what should be a good uh remote control, let's ask people who are users of remote controls how they feel about w the current remote controls, what they like, what they don't like and um and what they do with them by the way because they are supposed to be useful. Don't forget about that. So we've we've conducted a a survey on on the use of uh remote controls and I'd like to show you some of the results we found on this survey. And next please. Yeah, so basically what we found was that uh there are several things that the user don't like in remote controls. First of all, they find it very ugly. Current remote controls as you know they're the same as this one uh they're not nice colour, not nice shape, I mean they're all the same, and they're not l good looking. Um what is interesting is that in fact it seems that they were people are ready to pay for nice and look and fancy looking uh remote control, so I think we should probably spend lots of time in and effort in that um. And the other thing is that uh the the current remote controls are not so easy to use and it it the the current uh facilities that they offer do not match what people really want to use their remote controls. For instance uh we see that uh they zap very often so I think this is a very uh important uh functionality that it should be easy for them to to zap uh in one way or another. And most of the buttons uh on uh current remote controls are not used, so I think we should design something where some of the buttons which are those that are used should be easier to see and use than others that only a couple of people are using. Um next please. Now people are very frustrated w with their remote controls and they for instance uh they don't even find it it's it's often lost somewhere in the in the in your home and nobody knows where it
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: is. Maybe
Justin Newsome: Agree.
Bill Heath: if we have something where we
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: could ask the remote control please, where are you? Like
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: uh something to to like t I think phones. Some of the phones have some of this kind of s functionality. Uh of course phone you can always phone your phone but you can't phone
Stephen Mize: You can
Bill Heath: your your
Stephen Mize: you
Bill Heath: remote
James Robinson: Why
Bill Heath: control.
James Robinson: not?
Stephen Mize: are.
Bill Heath: But why not? Yeah. And because of the fact that there are so many buttons in these remote controls that nobody use, in fact
Stephen Mize: Hmm.
Bill Heath: they don't even know how to use them, so most of the the people say they they don't know how to they to use properly their r remote controls. And uh they are bad for R_S_I_ but uh I don't remember what is R_S_I_. So I think they are bad.
James Robinson: Okay uh tha that's look
Justin Newsome: R_S_I_
James Robinson: great.
Justin Newsome: mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm. Mm nobody has any idea about that? Well I'll
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
Bill Heath: check uh
Stephen Mize: it's
Bill Heath: with my
Stephen Mize: electromagnetic waves or something
Bill Heath: Oh,
Stephen Mize: kind of maybe
Justin Newsome: No,
Bill Heath: okay,
Stephen Mize: uh effect.
Bill Heath: I think
Justin Newsome: I
Bill Heath: it's
Justin Newsome: don't
Bill Heath: a technical
Justin Newsome: think so.
Bill Heath: thing which
Stephen Mize: Yeah, because infrared
Bill Heath: our
Stephen Mize: uses some
Bill Heath: Okay.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: electromagnetic
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: technology,
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Stephen Mize: and those
Bill Heath: So,
Stephen Mize: waves
Bill Heath: it
Stephen Mize: have high
Bill Heath: seems
Justin Newsome: But twenty
Bill Heath: that
Justin Newsome: six percent, do you know
Bill Heath: it's a
Stephen Mize: Uh.
Bill Heath: lot of people for a
Justin Newsome: Twenty
Bill Heath: concept
James Robinson: Or something
Bill Heath: that we
James Robinson: we
Bill Heath: don't
James Robinson: don't
Bill Heath: know
James Robinson: know.
Justin Newsome: five.
Bill Heath: but
Stephen Mize: Uh.
Bill Heath: we have to take this into account.
Justin Newsome: Every fourth, you
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: know.
Stephen Mize: Yeah it's
Justin Newsome: Every four
Stephen Mize: People really
Justin Newsome: some of us knows.
James Robinson: Okay.
Bill Heath: So anyway
Justin Newsome: One
Bill Heath: that's
Justin Newsome: of
Bill Heath: for
Justin Newsome: us
Bill Heath: what the biggest frustration uh of the user and um
Stephen Mize: Yeah. Yeah.
Bill Heath: what else do I have? Next slide? Ah yeah.
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: So we've listed a couple of uh
Justin Newsome: Functions.
Bill Heath: s uh functions that may be uh used by u the user in the current uh available uh remote controls and uh well the tables look very nice to read but what is important is to understand that the power button is not used often because in general you use it only once per session, but it is very relevant. People want to have a power button. Channel selection is uh o often used very often used and indeed uh very relevant.
Bill Heath: Ah now I remember what is R_S_I_ it's repetitivity stress injury. We have to be careful with that word but
Stephen Mize: Uh.
Bill Heath: uh anyway I continue my presentation so yeah, channel selection is um very important, very often used. Volume is not often used but people uh want to have control on volume and that makes sense of course.
Bill Heath: All of them. they're not often used and they are s more or less relevant. It seems that people find teletext teletext uh relevant, even if I personally never use it but seems that it's average relevant at least, so.
James Robinson: I have been told that we uh don't consider teletext, that it's out of date now because of internet.
Bill Heath: I can tell you that uh in a l in a scale between one and ten relevant uh not relevant to relevant people scored a six on this, which is not as uh these these two one were had I think ten I think.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: But but if you compare with these ones, uh I think they scored a one or two. Not very
Stephen Mize: Hmm.
Bill Heath: relevant, so if if there are good reason not to put teletext it's okay but just know that people find it somehow relevant.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: That's for the main functions I think and uh then we can ask uh ourself uh what people don't have that may be useful. For instance I think net next slide. One of the thing the trend uh that uh you are probably aware of is the possibility the eventual possibility of having speech recognition in your remote control, so you wouldn't have to tap tap in your buttons but just tell your remote control or whatever you need you have what you want. So we've conducted a survey about uh whether people would like or not to have uh this kind of uh functionality in their remote control and as we can see it really depends on the age. Young people, probably because it's a buzz word, find it very relevant. And uh as the age goes up the the relevance goes down.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: So now it really depends on the kind of uh targeting uh wha who are we targeting with this remote control? I think if we
Stephen Mize: 'Cause
Bill Heath: are targeting young people then uh it's probably something we have to consider. If we are targeting you very old people this is something they really don't know why they this should be so
James Robinson: Mm-mm.
Bill Heath: now this
James Robinson: Okay.
Bill Heath: is of course, depends on that. And um I don't have any conclusion, I didn't have time the meeting was very tight, so that's basically my findings. And uh, if you have any question?
James Robinson: Mm I think it's good, okay. You done a good
Justin Newsome: I
Bill Heath: I can
Justin Newsome: got
James Robinson: review.
Bill Heath: go back.
Justin Newsome: one question,
Stephen Mize: you.
Bill Heath: Yeah one question, yeah?
Justin Newsome: uh you are a Market Expert so
Bill Heath: I am.
Justin Newsome: should we aim at the young people or not?
Bill Heath: I think we should aim at the young people. But uh I think they are they are those uh who might be more interested in a in a new device.
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Bill Heath: In general the the early adopters of a new device are young people, less than
Justin Newsome: Okay,
Bill Heath: more
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Bill Heath: than
Justin Newsome: then teletext is used less.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: Then teletext is useless for them I think,
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Bill Heath: yeah. Because they they have other means of finding
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: their
James Robinson: Mm-hmm
Bill Heath: information.
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
James Robinson: mm
Bill Heath: Yeah.
James Robinson: mm. Okay.
Bill Heath: But
James Robinson: That's good
Bill Heath: yeah.
Stephen Mize: Mm,
James Robinson: point.
Justin Newsome: Mm.
Stephen Mize: yep.
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Bill Heath: Nope. 'Kay?
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: Thank you.
James Robinson: So um now I think it's the turn of the the I'm not sure um
James Robinson: Of the technical function, so
Bill Heath: So
James Robinson: uh
Bill Heath: I think it's you,
Stephen Mize: Uh it's
Bill Heath: huh? No?
Justin Newsome: That's
Stephen Mize: techni
Justin Newsome: Bill Heath.
Stephen Mize: function
James Robinson: what effect
Bill Heath: No,
Stephen Mize: of
Bill Heath: user requiremen
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: Okay. Wait a
Stephen Mize: I
James Robinson: second.
Stephen Mize: have to do
James Robinson: Argh.
Stephen Mize: working design so uh.
James Robinson: So
Justin Newsome: That's
James Robinson: you're
Justin Newsome: but this but number three, yes. Mm-hmm. So, my name is Mark Dwight, and um I am responsible for User Interface Design. However, uh mm Project Manager asked Bill Heath to give you some presentation about technical functions design. Uh, as I'm a more an artist that's gonna be less technical functions but more User Interface and current intentions and everything which is linked with this. So next
James Robinson: Okay.
Justin Newsome: slide please.
James Robinson: Let's go.
Justin Newsome: And uh a general method which is seems
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Justin Newsome: to be very useful for our task is not to forget about uh Occam razor. We should never complicate things too much. We should only make a remote control, nothing more. Nothing more than this, just a remote control. 'Cause current remote
Bill Heath: Makes sense.
Justin Newsome: controls they are never easy enough to use. So, make a click, please. So here is this remote control. It's quite a standard one, but it's not from a T_V_, it's from a much easier device like air conditioning or something. But you know, we can use it for a T_V_ easily. Only buttons we need is on off, volume, channels and maybe some options or something else, and please make a click, compared to this one which
Stephen Mize: It's
Justin Newsome: one would you prefer? I guess
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
Justin Newsome: this.
Bill Heath: I would say
Stephen Mize: yeah.
Bill Heath: the simplest one as long as there are the uh I find the buttons that I need every time I need a button.
Justin Newsome: Sure,
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Justin Newsome: sure.
Stephen Mize: Maybe it can be yeah middle of like,
Justin Newsome: Yeah,
Stephen Mize: between those two li
Justin Newsome: and our method is going to be, provide simple
James Robinson: Oh sorry.
Justin Newsome: simple desires into simple actions.
Bill Heath: Nice. Nice sentence.
Justin Newsome: Findings.
James Robinson: Okay. Oh sorry.
Justin Newsome: Our question of the style, we should remember that our company puts fashion into electronics and we should never forget about it. Concept.
Stephen Mize: S you
Justin Newsome: Be
Stephen Mize: should
Justin Newsome: simple.
Stephen Mize: yeah.
Justin Newsome: Be simple and you'll lean on this market. Market is a of remote controls you know it better,
Bill Heath: Mm.
Justin Newsome: it's very well, it's it's not an easy field to to play, you know? So be simple. For personal preferences I think that to make a baby-proof remote control it got to be a titanium. It's a really good style, it going to be look like like this. It is unbreakable and it is very universal. W we'll have a screen with a back light which can change colours,
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: and we can put all the options into this screen. We'll need only few buttons. All the other things can be controlled through the screen. And all these buttons should be easy to find and to click, 'cause when you watch a movie and you want to change something, you always try to find a good button and click it, but you should do it by touching it and finding it easily just by touch. So Press I would propose this concept for design, just few buttons,
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Justin Newsome: a screen with a back light which can change colours, titanium I think, and uh what else? I got just very few and good ideas. We need power and volume. And let us include two nice features into this device, first, power on and off can be made fully automatic. When you go to the sofa, take your control and point it to the T_V_,
James Robinson: It's
Bill Heath: Hmm.
James Robinson: off. It's on.
Justin Newsome: the T_V_ turns on.
Bill Heath: And when does it turn off?
Justin Newsome: When you don't touch the control but you go out of the
Bill Heath: Oh
Justin Newsome: For
Bill Heath: so you have a
Justin Newsome: for enough time like uh you
Bill Heath: sensing sensor machine that uh
Justin Newsome: It's
Bill Heath: knows
Justin Newsome: a question to our technical
Bill Heath: Tech
Justin Newsome: design, our two engineers. And another nice feature that I would like to implement is uh volume control. Suppose you set u you set up some volume and then you move out or you move to the other corner of the room and take your control with you. Like, you want to to change the chair or you want to move to the armchair from the sofa or
James Robinson: Or you want to go to
Justin Newsome: something,
James Robinson: the kitchen.
Justin Newsome: and then the volume changes.
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: It's easy to do, you just control the
Bill Heath: According to your distance
Stephen Mize: Distance.
Bill Heath: to
Justin Newsome: According to the distance.
Bill Heath: and the angle maybe, if you have a
Justin Newsome: Yeah
Bill Heath: stereo system.
Justin Newsome: yeah yeah.
Bill Heath: Uh I'm
Justin Newsome: So
Bill Heath: not sure about the screen, wha what is the use usefulness of the screen? Uh is it a touch screen by the way?
Justin Newsome: I think it can be just a menu which can be controlled with a left, right, up, down and enter.
Bill Heath: So it gives
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: instructions but uh it has to be with an back light somehow.
Justin Newsome: So, its main purpose in fact is a back light,
Stephen Mize: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: Okay.
Justin Newsome: which change colours, which makes it easier to find, and each can it can respond for your voice, like it can turn on the light for you just to f find it easily, yeah?
Bill Heath: Okay.
James Robinson: Mm.
Justin Newsome: So basically that's it.
James Robinson: Um I see that you target uh several s application not only T_V_ but i like we talk about um universal uh remote control.
Justin Newsome: Can be easily done,
James Robinson: Yeah.
Justin Newsome: 'cause you got simple designs, y we should put it to simple actions.
James Robinson: Hmm.
Justin Newsome: Let it be universal, so you want to use it for your hi-fi system. You want to change tracks and you want to adjust volume.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: Just
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Justin Newsome: few actions, a few actions for everything.
James Robinson: Hmm. S
Justin Newsome: All the rest, we sh we'll put it into this menu on the screen.
James Robinson: Mm. Since we were targeting a really soon uh uh date for the the the um i issuing of this uh remote control I think we will only concentrate on T_V_ for the moment
Stephen Mize: Mm.
James Robinson: and
Justin Newsome: Okay, okay.
Stephen Mize: Yeah
James Robinson: then
Stephen Mize: and it
James Robinson: maybe
Stephen Mize: mm.
James Robinson: m
Justin Newsome: Okay,
James Robinson: make
Justin Newsome: but it's quite
James Robinson: it
Justin Newsome: universal
James Robinson: more generalised
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Justin Newsome: you know.
James Robinson: yeah.
Justin Newsome: We can just extend it to any
Stephen Mize: Mm.
Justin Newsome: device.
Bill Heath: So for instance if I want to go to directly to channel twenty five, how would I do can I do that with this? Yeah mm let's say I am uh on channel eight now. You know these days we have hundreds of channels, that's not so
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: easy to go just next next next when you have hundreds of channels.
Justin Newsome: In fact
Bill Heath: Or is
Justin Newsome: I would
Bill Heath: it?
Justin Newsome: propose another solution. Basically you use just four or five channels,
Bill Heath: Most
Justin Newsome: right?
Bill Heath: people yeah.
Justin Newsome: Yeah. So uh set up your T_V_ set like channels that you use they're one, two, three and five, and you will never have to go to a twenty fives channel.
Bill Heath: In fact in in one uh remote control that I've seen, instead of doing that d you could just say these are the cha ch channel three, twenty eight, forty eight and uh sixty four are those that I want to by cycled with my next button.
James Robinson: Yeah it's
Bill Heath: I uh
James Robinson: it's the same
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: solution, I think.
Bill Heath: B yeah.
James Robinson: Hmm.
Stephen Mize: But even we can have some uh L_C_D_ display, like you can uh
Bill Heath: Go
Stephen Mize: de
Bill Heath: to
Stephen Mize: you
Bill Heath: channel
Stephen Mize: can just
Bill Heath: twenty five.
Stephen Mize: button the number and
Bill Heath: One
Stephen Mize: then
Bill Heath: thing
Stephen Mize: it
Bill Heath: is
Stephen Mize: go
Bill Heath: that
Stephen Mize: t
Bill Heath: as I said
Stephen Mize: because
Bill Heath: in my presentation people really do like to z zap. So
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: even if they are only watching four or five channels,
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: I think
Stephen Mize: But
Bill Heath: they
Stephen Mize: still
Bill Heath: want to zap out of the one hundred channels,
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: just because this is one kind of thing they do,
James Robinson: Yeah
Bill Heath: zapping.
James Robinson: uh on zap
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: it's only next next
Bill Heath: And it's
James Robinson: next
Bill Heath: only
James Robinson: next
Bill Heath: next.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: next,
Bill Heath: Yeah
James Robinson: yeah.
Bill Heath: so but
Justin Newsome: Mm.
Bill Heath: you have to
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: We got these buttons here.
Bill Heath: Okay.
Justin Newsome: Next next.
Stephen Mize: Yeah..
Justin Newsome: Or say this can be back.
Stephen Mize: Yeah. But otherwise like we can put some display on numbers and then they can just press
Bill Heath: So
Stephen Mize: suppose
Bill Heath: it would be
Stephen Mize: two five they just press two and five and then
Bill Heath: Okay.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: Maybe we can make uh different modes for each button and you
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: can change mode zapping
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
James Robinson: mode
Stephen Mize: yeah.
James Robinson: or
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm. Alright.
James Robinson: uh current
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
James Robinson: chan
Stephen Mize: yeah. Yeah
Bill Heath: Listening
Stephen Mize: but since we are focusing
Bill Heath: more.
Stephen Mize: only on T_V_ remote controls
James Robinson: Yeah.
Stephen Mize: so
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: we can have more functions for T_V_ uh if you want to go for a universal then we ought to limit for functions for each of our devices.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: Okay.
Justin Newsome: Could we carry out some research if we w really need this, like how many people really need to go to channel number twenty five and then to sixty four?
Bill Heath: Well I could could uh have a look at that
Stephen Mize: Yeah. Yeah.
Bill Heath: maybe.
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Bill Heath: I'll check in my department if there's someone specialist in that.
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Bill Heath: Although I don't know.
James Robinson: Okay.
Justin Newsome: Alright? Thanks for your attention.
James Robinson: Uh you're finish? Okay. So now the technical aspects of this new device. Mm.
Stephen Mize: Two. Yeah, if Sorry.
James Robinson: You prefer it.
Stephen Mize: Yeah. Uh as you know, I am mister Ramaro. I am an expert in uh industrial design of all electronic devices and I previously devised many uh like digital calculators and electronic calculators. So now I'll briefly describe the working design of our remote control. Well, as you know the basic function of remote control is sending some message to the the device, like T_V_ or V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player etcetera. So we will have a p portable device which will send message to the the main device like T_V_. So we need to have some energy source to do what to do the functions, what we want on this portable device. And usually this so to do these functions we need an interface, which basically some kind of pressing buttons or keys or like moving jack or something like that. And then these messages these key buttons can be transferred into some kind of message and then it will process by the chip and then it will generate some information to the main device. It's generally in the form of infrared or some kind of s sensor information. Then we will have the main control in the main device to do the particular action what we want. So, basically we need uh since we are focusing on our interface device remote control we need few components, mainly the energy source like the battery and then we have user interface like uh the keypad and you know buttons we want, and then we have some chip, it's mainly digital signal processing chip because since we are I am one doing mostly digital uh devices we ought to have some kind of processor which take care of all these functions and put it in some digital format. And then we'll have the infrared L_E_D_ source which sends the information to the main device. Then we'll have switch in our main uh um device to do particular operations, and we ought to do different codes for different T_V_s, so
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: some T_V_s will have different encryption codes for doing s s uh channel changing
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: and these things.
James Robinson: To make it quite uh an universal uh device
Stephen Mize: Yeah yeah,
James Robinson: uh.
Stephen Mize: because the people don't use one particular brand so
James Robinson: Mm.
Stephen Mize: or at least we have more more than five brands, which
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: are really good. So we need to check their specifications and do their uh encryption that's passing information to the T_V_ device. So we need to have particular encryption codes.
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: Then, components, so we have the main uh energy source and then we will have some buttons and then we will have infrared uh source and then we have some inside some chip in in the device. Uh since I don't have much time so I'll input the connections to all this components. And since I also want to know feedback from our Marketing Expert and User
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: Interface, so if you want to add some more components we
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: can
James Robinson: And
Stephen Mize: incorporate
James Robinson: from from
Stephen Mize: them.
James Robinson: the discussion we had do you
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: can you make it on the whiteboard, or
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
James Robinson: mm.
Stephen Mize: I'm sure, because since our User Interface speech recognition and also Marketing
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: Expert for the speech recognition is really handy,
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: so we can have another, like uh s simple speech recogniser on our D_S_B_
James Robinson: Mm.
Stephen Mize: chip. Since we have some kind of uh energy this is our this normal battery, so this battery, once you s switch on it will take power and we can have some speech recognition and in our g generally small digital signal processing chip so that and we will put uh the small uh simple speech recogniser and
James Robinson: On
Stephen Mize: we can also train the speech recogniser for particular user so you just
James Robinson: Uh train it, okay.
Stephen Mize: yeah,
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: so that we just use simple
Justin Newsome: Too complex.
Stephen Mize: recog no
Bill Heath: But
Stephen Mize: but
Bill Heath: uh very
Stephen Mize: but
Bill Heath: very good to sell.
Stephen Mize: Yeah. No, even in even simple mobile device like any mobile brand you can have these voice dialers or
Bill Heath: Think
Stephen Mize: these
Bill Heath: of
Stephen Mize: things,
Bill Heath: a all
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Bill Heath: these young
Stephen Mize: yeah.
Bill Heath: people who would love to say that this remote control only works for them,
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: and ha ha you cannot use my remote control, because
James Robinson: Mm.
Bill Heath: it's targeted
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: to Bill Heath. Whatever.
James Robinson: And what
Stephen Mize: So
James Robinson: about the price of this component?
Stephen Mize: Uh maybe we can make uh
James Robinson: It
Stephen Mize: it
James Robinson: mm
Stephen Mize: in five Euros and
James Robinson: okay.
Stephen Mize: even
Bill Heath: Hmm.
Stephen Mize: less
Bill Heath: Cheap.
Stephen Mize: than that, because we want to have
Bill Heath: Millions.
Stephen Mize: uh millions and
James Robinson: Mm.
Stephen Mize: in bulk, so we can make really simp
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: and
Bill Heath: Cheap.
Stephen Mize: we want to make really simple device because we have only very few words like like power, switch on
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: or some like then we'll have something like this um we'll have volume and then we will have s particular channel, so users can
Bill Heath: The
Stephen Mize: listen.
Bill Heath: user uh
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Bill Heath: will just be able to say uh please can you uh pump up the vo pump up the volume or or it
Stephen Mize: Ye
Bill Heath: will be something like volume,
Stephen Mize: No, yeah,
Bill Heath: up,
Stephen Mize: a
Bill Heath: down.
Stephen Mize: user can use any kind of sender but they should have this prompt volume and
Bill Heath: Okay.
Stephen Mize: then
James Robinson: With a keywords and
Stephen Mize: yeah
James Robinson: yeah.
Stephen Mize: volume and decrease or increase, so
Bill Heath: Okay.
Stephen Mize: we try to only recognise those
Bill Heath: Couple
Stephen Mize: words
Bill Heath: of words.
Stephen Mize: and
James Robinson: Mm-hmm mm.
Stephen Mize: and because we can't really say user to say same wording then it become
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: more mechanical and
Bill Heath: Okay.
Stephen Mize: yeah.
James Robinson: Okay.
Justin Newsome: Um.
Stephen Mize: And then we can have channel they can say, okay I want eight, because we don't know like users have different programmes, I mean they don't really follow same channels strict uh so we just want channel number, we don't want like B_B_C_ or C_N_N_ or something
Bill Heath: Of course
Stephen Mize: else
James Robinson: Okay.
Bill Heath: uh
Stephen Mize: because
Bill Heath: it has to
Stephen Mize: it
Justin Newsome: Okay.
Stephen Mize: will
Bill Heath: be
Stephen Mize: be complicated so we'll have only these three uh main basic uh
Bill Heath: Okay.
Stephen Mize: anyway volume is not really speech recognition problem, it's it it will be take care of our main
Justin Newsome: No you know it's a conceptual
Stephen Mize: mm.
Justin Newsome: question, 'cause now I see th this the picture in front of my eyes like a user taking his remote control and shouting into it, volume up, volume
Bill Heath: But
Justin Newsome: up,
Bill Heath: then I
Justin Newsome: and
Bill Heath: think you
Justin Newsome: and he's coming you know, he's really annoyed with this,
Bill Heath: you
Justin Newsome: down, up, down.
Bill Heath: First of all I I think this is not uh functionality that it is going to be instead of using
James Robinson: No,
Bill Heath: the buttons.
James Robinson: in no not
Bill Heath: It's
James Robinson: only
Bill Heath: on
James Robinson: speech,
Bill Heath: top
James Robinson: yeah.
Bill Heath: of using the button.
Justin Newsome: Okay, for
James Robinson: I
Justin Newsome: this
James Robinson: it's
Justin Newsome: budget
James Robinson: an option.
Justin Newsome: like twelve Euros.
Bill Heath: Well, I dunno.
Stephen Mize: Yeah actually we we can have one switch to like uh switch on, on and off, this processor and This really, suppose like here we have our main chip which controls power, volume and this part and this D_S_P_s.
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: Again, this to have some interaction like suppose people use D_S_P_ then it particularly sends some information to the chip like in some form, like volume and like this key. So
Justin Newsome: Okay..
Stephen Mize: it may not be like very expensive, because since we are only focusing on
Bill Heath: T_V_.
Stephen Mize: T_V_ remote control so
James Robinson: Okay.
Justin Newsome: Mm-hmm,
Stephen Mize: and we have
Justin Newsome: mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: only few
James Robinson: Sho
Stephen Mize: things here
James Robinson: to to train, okay.
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Justin Newsome: Did you consider the r gest uh gesture recognition? Like, if I want to put volume up I like do mm I take my remote control do like something like
Stephen Mize: Um
Justin Newsome: roll 'em up
Stephen Mize: uh
Justin Newsome: or roll 'em down.
James Robinson: Mm.
Stephen Mize: uh this point we didn't consider because it's
Bill Heath: Very expensive,
Stephen Mize: it's
Bill Heath: no?
Stephen Mize: very expensive because v our target is only like
James Robinson: And
Stephen Mize: twelve
James Robinson: well,
Stephen Mize: point five Euros
James Robinson: what
Justin Newsome: Mm
James Robinson: about
Stephen Mize: and
Justin Newsome: why?
James Robinson: the idea of
Justin Newsome: That's
James Robinson: automatic
Justin Newsome: just
James Robinson: on off on
Bill Heath: And
James Robinson: the
Bill Heath: volume
Stephen Mize: Yeah,
Bill Heath: control.
Stephen Mize: even automatic
James Robinson: button, yeah.
Stephen Mize: on off is also a bit problematic, because it different criteria for different people like so suppose people are really uh they just uh they don't touch the remote and mm y
Bill Heath: So but
Stephen Mize: you don't
Bill Heath: uh
Stephen Mize: know how much time you need to switch on or switch off and
Bill Heath: Sh should we target a a user personalised uh uh remote control? So in in a given room there might be more than one remote control. We would uh have each one
Stephen Mize: Yay yeah.
Bill Heath: and uh with our own personal uh settings.
Stephen Mize: Yeah that can be possible, especially for power settings, so user can say okay, suppose they're watching a tennis match or something then they can say okay
Bill Heath: Hmm.
Stephen Mize: uh after one hour I
James Robinson: Wouldn't that make
Stephen Mize: They can
James Robinson: uh
Stephen Mize: make
James Robinson: arguments?
Bill Heath: Yeah, of
James Robinson: I
Bill Heath: course.
James Robinson: want uh
Bill Heath: That's no problem, we will sell more.
Stephen Mize: Yeah we can have
James Robinson: And we
Justin Newsome: We
James Robinson: can
Justin Newsome: got
James Robinson: increase this
Justin Newsome: a
James Robinson: the strength
Bill Heath: Yeah exactly.
James Robinson: y you can
Justin Newsome: really
James Robinson: buy
Justin Newsome: good Market
James Robinson: one
Justin Newsome: Expert.
James Robinson: with
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Justin Newsome: Let's send more, let's sell more. Okay.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm. Okay. You have mm something else to say?
Stephen Mize: Uh,
James Robinson: Uh.
Stephen Mize: not very much, like
James Robinson: No.
Stephen Mize: yeah.
Bill Heath: Okay. Thanks.
James Robinson: Okay,
Stephen Mize: Thank you.
James Robinson: thanks.
Stephen Mize: Yep. Thank you.
James Robinson: So
Stephen Mize: Can you just yeah.
James Robinson: mm mm I think, okay, we're just on time. Um mm mm. So, we're now going to l have the lunch break.
Bill Heath: Mm great.
James Robinson: Then we will work again for thirty minutes individual work, and um we will uh meet again for the next meeting, and uh in this one want to to be more focused on the individual actions the um on the components so uh you will focus on the component
Stephen Mize: Yeah
James Robinson: concept
Stephen Mize: yeah.
James Robinson: um uh of course the
Stephen Mize: Mark
James Robinson: U_I_D_
Stephen Mize: will
James Robinson: Mark will be uh focused on the user interface concept and uh our m Market Expert Sammy Benjo uh on the trend watching. So um of course like before specific instruction will be sent to you by your personal personal coach. Well I think that's all. And we have um maybe we have to we say, only for T_V_, not teletext? Uh I think automatic on off control uh it's not possible.
Stephen Mize: Uh it's
Bill Heath: Difficult.
Stephen Mize: in current price,
James Robinson: Yeah,
Stephen Mize: yeah.
James Robinson: maybe in the next
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: uh step if we make it work um.
Stephen Mize: But speech recogniser can be
James Robinson: Yeah,
Stephen Mize: possible.
James Robinson: implemented. O okay, we
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
James Robinson: can think about that. And um do you see something else?
Bill Heath: No.
Justin Newsome: Uh, should it be equipped with the uh, with uh speakers?
Bill Heath: Speakers
Justin Newsome: Like,
Bill Heath: in the remote
Justin Newsome: you want
Bill Heath: cont
Justin Newsome: to find it, you shout
Bill Heath: Oh yeah.
Justin Newsome: control,
James Robinson: Uh yeah that's
Justin Newsome: and it answers is I'm here? Or
Bill Heath: It just beeps. That would be enough.
Justin Newsome: Just beeps?
James Robinson: Or maybe
Bill Heath: Something
James Robinson: you
Bill Heath: very
James Robinson: want
Bill Heath: cheap.
James Robinson: to phone him.
Bill Heath: But that's
Stephen Mize: Yeah
James Robinson: Since
Stephen Mize: yeah
Bill Heath: ex
James Robinson: now
Stephen Mize: yeah.
James Robinson: all
Bill Heath: that's expensive.
James Robinson: yeah?
Bill Heath: Uh.
Stephen Mize: Yeah, especially
James Robinson: Think
Stephen Mize: the power, it really consumes because
James Robinson: Uh-huh.
Stephen Mize: it should be all the time on and
Bill Heath: Well I
James Robinson: And uh
Bill Heath: I heard of devices where you just uh whistle them and
James Robinson: And
Bill Heath: and they
James Robinson: it's answered.
Bill Heath: because
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: of the the frequency they
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
Bill Heath: they just
Justin Newsome: I can't whistle.
Bill Heath: answer to that.
Justin Newsome: No,
Bill Heath: You can't whistle.
Justin Newsome: no,
Bill Heath: Uh-huh.
Justin Newsome: I can't.
Bill Heath: Or a clap.
Justin Newsome: Mm.
James Robinson: Clap
Bill Heath: You can clap.
James Robinson: clap
Bill Heath: Can you?
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: clap it's a good
Bill Heath: Clap is good.
James Robinson: I
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: I think
Bill Heath: Tak
James Robinson: it's universal.
Bill Heath: Just a
James Robinson: What about
Bill Heath: suggestion.
Justin Newsome: Okay.
James Robinson: people without hand? Yeah.
Bill Heath: With only one hand?
Stephen Mize: Yeah I think it's good.
Bill Heath: These are not our target
James Robinson: Mm
Bill Heath: people.
James Robinson: uh okay.
Stephen Mize: But it's a good feature I guess yeah we need to
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Stephen Mize: think about more
James Robinson: Okay.
Stephen Mize: how to incorporate it.
Justin Newsome: Just don't interfere with other devices like 'cause
Bill Heath: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: like all these people do that their lights are turning on with clapping.
Bill Heath: Oh
Stephen Mize: Oh.
Bill Heath: that's e that already exists
Justin Newsome: Yeah,
Bill Heath: okay
Justin Newsome: I got it
Bill Heath: okay.
Justin Newsome: at my home,
James Robinson: Mm-hmm.
Justin Newsome: like.
Bill Heath: Oh yeah, you do
Justin Newsome: Oops.
Bill Heath: have. Wow.
Stephen Mize: Ah
Bill Heath: You're
Stephen Mize: it's
Bill Heath: trendy.
James Robinson: Mm-hmm, so let's to think s
Bill Heath: Think about
James Robinson: so
Bill Heath: it.
James Robinson: that
Bill Heath: Yeah,
James Robinson: yeah. I
Bill Heath: okay.
James Robinson: think that could be in the component uh concept
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: uh. It yes.
Bill Heath: Okay.
James Robinson: Okay.
Bill Heath: Good we're done?
James Robinson: So, yeah
Stephen Mize: Yeah.
James Robinson: let's,
Bill Heath: Right,
James Robinson: go
Bill Heath: thanks.
James Robinson: to lunch.
Stephen Mize: Thank you, thank you very much. | James Robinson opened the meeting and stated the agenda to the team members. Bill Heath discussed the findings of a survey which indicated that current remotes are ugly, difficult to use, have a number of unused buttons, frustrate users when misplaced, and contribute to RSI. Bill Heath also stated that young users like speech recognition and that users in general want buttons for power, channel selection, volume control, and a few lesser used settings. Justin Newsome presented existing remotes to exemplify the need for simpler designs, discussed the use of components such as titanium and a back-lit LCD screen, and discussed other features to consider such as color options. Stephen Mize discussed the interior workings of a remote and how to handle universal capability and speech recognition. After James Robinson's closing, James Robinson recapped some decisions and the team discussed how to handle the issue of locating a remote when misplaced. | 3 | amisum | test |
Willie Mitchell: So we come again for the the second meeting.
Adam Abrams: Mm-hmm.
Willie Mitchell: Uh for the aim of this meeting now is to to make presentation about uh the work for each one. And take the the decision
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Willie Mitchell: about the the design and the functionality of the the remote control.
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay.
Willie Mitchell: And we have think I got a new project requirement. So I think uh teletext becomes outdated. So
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay.
Willie Mitchell: the popularity of the since the popularity of the internet, and I think we don't need lighting adaptive, for the the television. And of course we should have our image in the in the design. So, let's start with the Lawrence Colicchio.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, alright. So
Willie Mitchell: Or
Lawrence Colicchio: uh
Willie Mitchell: y you can use the whiteboard
Lawrence Colicchio: Well I have
Willie Mitchell: if you
Lawrence Colicchio: a
Willie Mitchell: want.
Lawrence Colicchio: PowerPoint pr presentation stored
Willie Mitchell: Here.
Lawrence Colicchio: in my in my personal folder so I I I think you can reach it from here.
Gary Pate: Just go to explorer. Or open.
Willie Mitchell: Oh okay.
Gary Pate: Participant.
Lawrence Colicchio: Participant two.
Willie Mitchell: This one.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: Open uh.
Lawrence Colicchio: Uh open.
Willie Mitchell: Do you want to open
Adam Abrams: Because it's you mean.
Lawrence Colicchio: Right, so um I will talk about the the w
Adam Abrams: F_ five.
Lawrence Colicchio: working design and
Gary Pate: Slide show, view slide show,
Willie Mitchell: Ah.
Lawrence Colicchio: And um well I I will present my my first idea on how to build the our new remote control for television. So uh can you go one page down, please. So I things do is to define the hardware components neededs to achieve uh what we want to do. So uh mm I'm thin uh I think uh I I'll do a survey about what is uh what is available on the market and what what is the the cheapest possible things we hav we can use. Then uh I will try with the technical team to to build a prototype and to see uh with uh h how this little box would uh look look like. And how an and we can uh start troubleshooting first uh com communication problems or things like that. And when we are ready with this first prototype I I think we can add some software functionalities on a programmable chip like browsing by content or um things like that. Okay so can you go down uh So, wha what I think for now is we don't want to have a remote control w which is wired so uh I think we u we can use a battery for the. Then two programmable chips for both software functionalities and communication. And the communication with the T_V_ set is uh made through uh infrared communication So uh this is the the schema of
Adam Abrams: Did you draw it?
Lawrence Colicchio: the
Willie Mitchell: Wow.
Lawrence Colicchio: o of the future uh remote controls so uh you can you can see the components, uh battery and uh the two chips goes to the infrared uh connection to
Adam Abrams: This.
Lawrence Colicchio: the T_V_ set.
Willie Mitchell: This
Adam Abrams: What is the other chip for? The one on top.
Lawrence Colicchio: The one on top is for the um well
Gary Pate: One is
Lawrence Colicchio: the
Gary Pate: a communication.
Lawrence Colicchio: functionali the functionalities and the the th red um sorry the green one is is to well, putting things together, um f transform the data into uh
Adam Abrams: For
Lawrence Colicchio: qu
Adam Abrams: men.
Lawrence Colicchio: into the format to
Adam Abrams: To the
Lawrence Colicchio: to
Adam Abrams: in
Lawrence Colicchio: uh to communicate with the T_V_ set.
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: And, that's it. I think we should use a F_P_G_A_ for
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: for the functionalities which is easy to
Adam Abrams: What
Lawrence Colicchio: to
Adam Abrams: is F_P_G_A_?
Lawrence Colicchio: t It's field programmable uh something
Gary Pate: Gateway
Lawrence Colicchio: array.
Gary Pate: arrays.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: It's a field programmable gateway arrays.
Adam Abrams: So why's it how is it different from the Bluetooth?
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, uh a F_P_G_A_ is just a chip you
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: can uh you can
Adam Abrams: Programme it.
Lawrence Colicchio: pr
Gary Pate: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: programme it uh wi with wh whatever you want.
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: And uh well the Bluetooth chip is just responsible to uh make
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: the communication uh between
Adam Abrams: Uh
Lawrence Colicchio: uh the two devices.
Adam Abrams: So this are the they have to work together? Or? they have to work
Lawrence Colicchio: No.
Adam Abrams: or two
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, th the F_P_G_A_ will produce the the data to send.
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Gary Pate: Or it's something like isn't hardware the first one? And the second one is
Adam Abrams: Is the
Gary Pate: for the software.
Adam Abrams: is the software par
Gary Pate: Yeah to
Adam Abrams: alri
Gary Pate: run
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: th
Adam Abrams: okay.
Gary Pate: to make it run. That's
Adam Abrams: Okay,
Gary Pate: it.
Adam Abrams: okay. So you can control if you want, right?
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: No.
Lawrence Colicchio: Alright and that's it for the working design. So if you have any questions?
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: Okay, and how about the battery power? power to the battery comes through infrared?
Lawrence Colicchio: Uh no no no no, I think uh we have uh to to uh have uh embedded uh b batteries in in the
Gary Pate: Into the
Lawrence Colicchio: yeah into the t.
Gary Pate: more compact and
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah,
Gary Pate: uh
Lawrence Colicchio: yeah.
Gary Pate: okay,
Lawrence Colicchio: And uh I I don't think it will need um very uh
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: much power to
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: make it run, so
Gary Pate: Yeah, yeah.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: Okay.
Adam Abrams: You can put it on the charger when uh you when you don't
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: need to use it.
Lawrence Colicchio: It's a good idea.
Gary Pate: Yeah, that's right.
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Gary Pate: Having a charger rather than putting the battery cells
Adam Abrams: Yeah,
Gary Pate: always.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: yeah.
Gary Pate: People don't like it to have to
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Gary Pate: buy the batteries when they run out.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: We
Adam Abrams: Uh
Gary Pate: just make a small
Adam Abrams: mm. Y
Gary Pate: charger
Adam Abrams: yeah,
Gary Pate: and put
Adam Abrams: yeah.
Gary Pate: it
Adam Abrams: Because
Lawrence Colicchio: That's
Adam Abrams: you
Lawrence Colicchio: a
Adam Abrams: are
Lawrence Colicchio: good
Adam Abrams: using
Willie Mitchell: You
Lawrence Colicchio: idea.
Willie Mitchell: can i yeah.
Adam Abrams: because you are using
Willie Mitchell: Ma
Adam Abrams: Bluetooth, if some people have P_D_A_ they can use their P_D_A_ to control the T_V_ if they want to, right?
Lawrence Colicchio: Also, but
Gary Pate: Bu
Lawrence Colicchio: but I
Adam Abrams: I dunno.
Willie Mitchell: Yeah we can
Lawrence Colicchio: I
Willie Mitchell: change
Lawrence Colicchio: I think
Willie Mitchell: the
Lawrence Colicchio: uh the the
Willie Mitchell: b.
Lawrence Colicchio: goal is to sell our
Gary Pate: Our
Lawrence Colicchio: remote
Gary Pate: remote,
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Gary Pate: we do not
Lawrence Colicchio: control.
Gary Pate: want to make it P_D_A_.
Lawrence Colicchio: S okay, so charger for is the.
Willie Mitchell: Um.
Adam Abrams: So is mine.
Willie Mitchell: It's mine.
Adam Abrams: Oh.
Willie Mitchell: Participant one, no?
Adam Abrams: Yeah, this your
Willie Mitchell: Mm. Oh we have so let's move to to user interface design.
Adam Abrams: Yeah. So you can open uh
Willie Mitchell: Participant
Adam Abrams: three. Yeah. So So I'm working on the technical functions design. can you show the next slide. So the the purpose is to to find uh the important questions to ask is what effect should the apparatus have. So so I found on a webs on the internet
Willie Mitchell: During the weekend.
Adam Abrams: yeah. I spent a lot of time searching
Willie Mitchell: That's
Adam Abrams: and
Willie Mitchell: good.
Adam Abrams: uh and I found that uh the function of remote control is to send messages to television set.
Willie Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Gary Pate: G
Adam Abrams: For example switch on, switch off, switch the next channel and so on and so on. So I found two very good prototypes for for this interface from our competitors so can you
Willie Mitchell: This are usual functionality.
Adam Abrams: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ours is a bit uh different. So these are two example. One is from the other one is from,
Willie Mitchell: Tasks.
Adam Abrams: yeah, uh engineering centr yeah. This is the most competing prototypes I've found. But then uh loo but then I found if you look at you see on the left one there are too many buttons
Willie Mitchell: And they are small.
Adam Abrams: Yeah. O on the right I tried to play with the problem is that uh if I have hundred channels I have uh I have to choo press the other button to choose the
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: hundred channels and I have to compose the number so it's very lousy.
Lawrence Colicchio: Of
Willie Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Adam Abrams: So you
Lawrence Colicchio: course.
Adam Abrams: so you move to the next the next one. Yeah, so I talk about the problem. And then I I look at the user manual they are a hundred pages thick, so we don't want that.
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: So I propose the easy to use uh prototype. You can navigate on T_V_ screen and we can the user's preference and we need to have the T_V_ connected to internet so we end in order to access the T_V_ programmes by X_M_L_ and we need some to do some preprocessing. From the technical aspect, the processing should be done on the T_V_ set than on the on the remote controller, right? And then we the speech recognition as uh Harry says we may just put in we may K_I_V_.
Willie Mitchell: What do you mean by the pa pa processing will be done on the T_V_
Adam Abrams: Yeah, all the processing
Willie Mitchell: than the
Adam Abrams: is done the T_V_ is a compu has some processing power the
Lawrence Colicchio: So we
Willie Mitchell: So
Lawrence Colicchio: have
Willie Mitchell: we
Lawrence Colicchio: to
Willie Mitchell: should
Lawrence Colicchio: t
Willie Mitchell: have specific T_V_?
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Willie Mitchell: Or?
Lawrence Colicchio: We have to
Willie Mitchell: We
Lawrence Colicchio: sell
Willie Mitchell: can
Lawrence Colicchio: a
Willie Mitchell: use this.
Lawrence Colicchio: T_V_ with the remote
Willie Mitchell: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: control too.
Willie Mitchell: we don't
Adam Abrams: Yeah because are you just wondering what controller
Willie Mitchell: Yeah, I think
Adam Abrams: okay.
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Willie Mitchell: so.
Gary Pate: not
Willie Mitchell: J
Lawrence Colicchio: I think
Willie Mitchell: j
Gary Pate: the T_V_s.
Willie Mitchell: just the
Lawrence Colicchio: there
Willie Mitchell: remote
Lawrence Colicchio: there is
Willie Mitchell: control.
Lawrence Colicchio: there is al there there is a a technology like show view
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: who is already available on most of the T_V_ set on recorders or thing like that and we can try t to get this information
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: on to the remote control to
Gary Pate: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: to do
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: the processing on the remote control
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: because
Gary Pate: that's right.
Adam Abrams: Okay. So i the
Willie Mitchell: Mm.
Adam Abrams: processing on on the remote controller
Willie Mitchell: Yeah,
Adam Abrams: so it can
Willie Mitchell: we.
Adam Abrams: u be used in any T_V_, any conventional T_V_ sets?
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: Mm. Okay.
Willie Mitchell: Speech recognition.
Adam Abrams: N yeah, that's all. The next one? So I come up with a simple design, just keep the v navigation buttons.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yes, that's a good idea, I think.
Willie Mitchell: Keep the
Lawrence Colicchio: We
Willie Mitchell: navigation
Lawrence Colicchio: d we don't we we
Willie Mitchell: but
Lawrence Colicchio: don't need really much buttons to i if we have a screen to navigate on
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: on the T_V_ so uh
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, f four five buttons, it's
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: sufficient.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: It's easy to build,
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: it
Gary Pate: that's
Lawrence Colicchio: does
Gary Pate: right.
Lawrence Colicchio: not consume much power.
Adam Abrams: Okay, that's
Gary Pate: Oh,
Adam Abrams: all.
Gary Pate: but you have a catch there, um assume that um if you want to go to if you are watching channel two and if you want to go to channel ninety nine, then.
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, then y you you go to the main menu and uh you have uh go to channel and
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: then
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: uh you
Adam Abrams: No,
Lawrence Colicchio: can
Adam Abrams: because you choose by channel, so
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: Uh-huh huh
Adam Abrams: you choose
Lawrence Colicchio: Maybe
Gary Pate: huh huh.
Adam Abrams: by T_V_
Lawrence Colicchio: you.
Adam Abrams: program so you don't have hundred channels to choose from.
Gary Pate: Mm-hmm hmm
Adam Abrams: If you
Gary Pate: hmm.
Adam Abrams: go by channel, you don't have to do that.
Lawrence Colicchio: but uh
Gary Pate: But
Lawrence Colicchio: I I think i
Willie Mitchell: So you are
Lawrence Colicchio: i if you if you want to to make uh
Adam Abrams: Ah.
Lawrence Colicchio: well a a big jump
Adam Abrams: Ah,
Gary Pate: Yeah
Adam Abrams: a big
Gary Pate: then
Adam Abrams: jump.
Lawrence Colicchio: but
Gary Pate: yeah that's right.
Lawrence Colicchio: uh well you you have to to have a a a device when you could you could
Adam Abrams: A mouse or
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, not a mouse but uh something that that says more clearly that uh right, left, up, down,
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Gary Pate: Mm hmm
Lawrence Colicchio: well,
Gary Pate: hmm. Okay.
Willie Mitchell: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: the to have the ability to to to write something to the navigator, maybe directly, or
Gary Pate: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: So,
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: we can think of buttons like in the telephone to send messages or things like that.
Adam Abrams: Mm-hmm.
Lawrence Colicchio: But
Willie Mitchell: How
Lawrence Colicchio: we'll
Willie Mitchell: the
Lawrence Colicchio: see.
Willie Mitchell: this remote?
Adam Abrams: Uh it's gonna be small.
Willie Mitchell: Yeah, of course
Adam Abrams: Yeah. So it'll beep
Willie Mitchell: small.
Gary Pate: too small that it goes
Adam Abrams: if
Gary Pate: under
Adam Abrams: you
Gary Pate: the sofa
Adam Abrams: wanna
Gary Pate: and we can't find
Adam Abrams: find it you just
Gary Pate: it.
Adam Abrams: uh shout y h just it just has to re respond to you when you look for the device.
Gary Pate: Yeah, that's.
Adam Abrams: I dunno how
Gary Pate: just give it a name
Adam Abrams: bu
Gary Pate: and we call him.
Adam Abrams: And responds to you,
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Adam Abrams: and
Gary Pate: that's right. Yeah, that's right.
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay, so uh next presentation
Willie Mitchell: Participant four.
Willie Mitchell: So Harry.
Gary Pate: Okay, after having the inputs from industrial design and user
Lawrence Colicchio: Mm.
Gary Pate: interface, I think most of the points which I want to are already covered here. And to find the most interesting features what the users would be interested, then what we have done is we have put a feedback forms in all the magazines, and the users send the feedbacks, and based on that These are the findings which we got and yeah adding of a speech interface is always good for a T_V_ remote but the technology We already know that as
Lawrence Colicchio: Well
Gary Pate: discussed
Lawrence Colicchio: I I
Gary Pate: earlier
Lawrence Colicchio: think it will be a, yes, a bit complicated to um make a speech recognisers runs on the small uh ts
Gary Pate: An it
Adam Abrams: I-
Gary Pate: does how
Adam Abrams: mm.
Gary Pate: feasible it is.
Adam Abrams: But I think if you to recognise numbers it's a well-studied problem. I if you just recognise uh numbers is a limited you have limited
Gary Pate: Oh
Adam Abrams: vocabulary
Gary Pate: we can put an limited vocabulary as in the mobile phones.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: We just have the
Adam Abrams: Mm. Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: so it's a good idea.
Gary Pate: it's not going to take much space also. It's going to be very slim.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: And
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: next one was the size of the remote control. It has to be of course a very slim and small one. And of course most of the people are interested in if it's less expensive,
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Willie Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Gary Pate: so this is an important criteria here
Adam Abrams: But
Gary Pate: is
Willie Mitchell: But do you think what they sug suggested s possibility.
Gary Pate: I mean
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: we have to look for a trade-off. The
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Gary Pate: features and the cost.
Adam Abrams: I
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: no I I think that uh i if we go for quality people may tolerate for high quality and of course comes with uh reasonable cost. Maybe not less, but they may be willing to pay
Gary Pate: Little bit more
Adam Abrams: little
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Gary Pate: if
Willie Mitchell: It
Adam Abrams: bit
Gary Pate: it's
Adam Abrams: more for
Gary Pate: with extra
Adam Abrams: comfort,
Gary Pate: features.
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: yeah, extra features.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, s
Gary Pate: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: s speech is a important extra feature I
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: think
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: yeah. That's right.
Willie Mitchell: But is
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Willie Mitchell: it useful or not u
Lawrence Colicchio: Well,
Willie Mitchell: I don't
Lawrence Colicchio: uh
Willie Mitchell: know. There is in
Gary Pate: I mean, for
Willie Mitchell: the
Gary Pate: a lazy guys they could say nine and the nine channel comes. Or they say movie name or I don't go for movie names but only for the numbers on the channel, or volume up, volume
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: down, brightness, contrast.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Willie Mitchell: Mm.
Gary Pate: So, I think this should be a good idea, to put this features. And the fourth one was the teletext in various languages.
Lawrence Colicchio: we we just have to find a mean how to
Gary Pate: Mm,
Lawrence Colicchio: to
Gary Pate: I
Lawrence Colicchio: add
Gary Pate: think
Lawrence Colicchio: a m a a a microphone or uh well yes a microphone into the the remote control, so I well
Willie Mitchell: I think
Lawrence Colicchio: it
Willie Mitchell: i
Lawrence Colicchio: will be alright.
Adam Abrams: What is the teletext?
Willie Mitchell: If it's necessary can you can
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Willie Mitchell: do that. We can integrate small microphone in the
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Willie Mitchell: remote so it's not really a problem.
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay.
Willie Mitchell: What about lighting adaptive options?
Gary Pate: Yeah as discussed
Willie Mitchell: According
Gary Pate: in the earlier
Willie Mitchell: to the
Gary Pate: meeting,
Willie Mitchell: re to the new
Gary Pate: but
Willie Mitchell: requirements I think we
Gary Pate: I
Willie Mitchell: don't
Gary Pate: think
Willie Mitchell: need
Gary Pate: uh
Willie Mitchell: that.
Gary Pate: not much people are really
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Gary Pate: interested in this point if it's not really
Adam Abrams: It
Gary Pate: required.
Adam Abrams: is interesting but we are only concerned with the remote controller.
Willie Mitchell: Mm.
Adam Abrams: So you need s special T_V_ sets to do that? Or it's it's done via this remote controller? It's
Gary Pate: I
Adam Abrams: very
Gary Pate: mean
Adam Abrams: complex.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, I think it's a bit complex too
Gary Pate: I mean yeah, it's for the um industrial design and users interface designers to decide
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: if it's going to be working or not.
Lawrence Colicchio: For our next product, our
Gary Pate: I
Lawrence Colicchio: new
Gary Pate: think
Lawrence Colicchio: T_V_ set with
Adam Abrams: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: uh
Adam Abrams: then we can conclude
Lawrence Colicchio: automatical
Adam Abrams: that.
Lawrence Colicchio: uh sound
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: adjustment
Adam Abrams: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: light
Adam Abrams: but it's quite possible but maybe not in this project.
Willie Mitchell: So we have I think we have s still we have couple of minutes. Mm-mm.
Willie Mitchell: So any things to to discuss?
Gary Pate: I
Willie Mitchell: Or
Gary Pate: think
Willie Mitchell: any
Gary Pate: as I
Willie Mitchell: suggestions?
Gary Pate: discussed th that four points would be good for um marketing. The speech interface and uh less uh
Willie Mitchell: Expensive.
Gary Pate: reasonable
Willie Mitchell: Price.
Gary Pate: uh cost.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: And the lighting adaptation and the teletext.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: And regarding the teletext uh these are the subtitl these are the text information which you got on the televisions.
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Gary Pate: If you are watching an foreign movie,
Adam Abrams: Yeah.
Gary Pate: you get subtitles sometimes.
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Gary Pate: And uh if
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Gary Pate: you are a French guy watching an English movie you would like to have it in French. And if I am a German then I would like to have the my options in German. So, the remote it should have some
Lawrence Colicchio: Function.
Gary Pate: it should give Gary Pate some flexibility of choosing the ch languages. That should be a good uh point.
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, but well what about the the new project's requirement? I I I think we should
Willie Mitchell: I think we
Lawrence Colicchio: give
Willie Mitchell: we
Lawrence Colicchio: up
Willie Mitchell: can
Lawrence Colicchio: with teletext,
Willie Mitchell: we
Lawrence Colicchio: no?
Willie Mitchell: is
Lawrence Colicchio: Yes.
Willie Mitchell: the.
Lawrence Colicchio: Well, so maybe we we can j we can already think uh about a way to to access the internet via the television.
Adam Abrams: Mm.
Lawrence Colicchio: Because if
Adam Abrams: Using the T_V_ to access the internet? Or what? I didn't quite understand
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, but
Willie Mitchell: Yeah.
Lawrence Colicchio: uh we can think that in a few years there will be T_V_ set that can access the internet.
Adam Abrams: Yeah, okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: So
Gary Pate: We already
Lawrence Colicchio: it's
Gary Pate: have
Lawrence Colicchio: a good
Gary Pate: some.
Lawrence Colicchio: idea if i i if we i if if we uh think about how to to to build up our remote uh control w with this functionality in a w which will c which will come in a few years. So if we already have it in our
Willie Mitchell: So you have to
Lawrence Colicchio: remote
Willie Mitchell: anticipate
Lawrence Colicchio: control
Willie Mitchell: the the future?
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: Yeah. The future
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah.
Adam Abrams: demand, market demand.
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, to desi
Gary Pate: that's right.
Lawrence Colicchio: well, not not to implement it, but to well, to find a way to to add
Adam Abrams: The
Lawrence Colicchio: to
Adam Abrams: functionality
Lawrence Colicchio: add this functionality in a
Adam Abrams: in the future.
Willie Mitchell: In future.
Lawrence Colicchio: yeah,
Adam Abrams: Alright.
Lawrence Colicchio: in an in an easy manner, if is possible.
Adam Abrams: Yeah. Because all the T_V_ sets will be digital, right. All the programmes, everything will be in digital than analog. Th the system will change and
Lawrence Colicchio: Yeah, yeah.
Adam Abrams: we have to anticipate for those change.
Gary Pate: Yeah,
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay.
Willie Mitchell: Okay.
Lawrence Colicchio: So
Willie Mitchell: So let's go for the the lunch break, and
Lawrence Colicchio: Okay,
Willie Mitchell: we will
Lawrence Colicchio: thank
Willie Mitchell: meet
Lawrence Colicchio: you.
Gary Pate: Okay,
Adam Abrams: Okay.
Gary Pate: thank you.
Willie Mitchell: after.
Adam Abrams: Thank you. | Willie Mitchell presented the goals of the meeting and new product requirements. Lawrence Colicchio presented the internal components of a remote control and showed a diagram of how they operate together. He suggested that field programmable gateway arrays be used for the chip controlling software functionalities, and it was suggested that the remote be used with a recharging stand. Adam Abrams gave a presentation on the technical functions of the remote, and displayed the interfaces of two existing products for comparison. He showed that the competitors' remotes were too complicated. He suggested that the televisions that the remotes are used with connect to the internet to access downloadable programs. He suggested a simple design with few buttons, small size, and a locator function. Gary Pate presented several characteristics important to users. He discussed using speech recognition and ways to make it feasible for the project, small size, low price point, and incorporating teletext in different languages. The group discussed the new requirement that required them to omit teletext from their design, and discussed the possibility of using the remote to access the internet through the television. | 3 | amisum | test |
David Barnes: So in last meeting we have discussed the conceptual design and we asked you to prepare a prototype for the for the remote control. So.
Frank Clifton: Okay.
David Barnes: So let's see the what
Frank Clifton: Yeah, so
David Barnes: did you prepare.
Frank Clifton: can you go out to the shared folder? Mm the
David Barnes: Sh
Frank Clifton: shared folder.
David Barnes: share folder for
Frank Clifton: Yes.
David Barnes: th your presentation?
Frank Clifton: We have a presentation.
David Barnes: Because I have here
Frank Clifton: Uh So I got the participant uh three. W uh. Three. It's the final design, yeah.
David Barnes: Okay just one.
Frank Clifton: S so so I discussed with
Christopher Brown: Mm.
Frank Clifton: Guillaume. Right.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: And uh so we have and we we are both agreed on some two versions of the prototypes, because we not decided whether we to have an L_C_D_ or not because it's too expensive. So we come up with two versions. One with and one without L_C_D_s. Um but both comes with a charger and then detachable and uh or control module. And detachable big buttons for all people um. So.
Christopher Brown: okay so I'll show you the the two prototypes. Here we have the first one with the beautiful uh L_C_D_ um display. You you can s here. And you can uh just um browse into the the navigation menu by uh joystick
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: joystick-like uh button. You can uh choose the direction and if you just push on it it's considered like
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: a enter function.
Frank Clifton: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Brown: You have on the mm on the side here the microphone for the for the speech recognition. And here the the switch that control if you
David Barnes: Why
Christopher Brown: want
David Barnes: you why you you put it in the the side?
Christopher Brown: Well I I I think uh it's
David Barnes: It's not
Christopher Brown: the
David Barnes: a good place maybe.
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Frank Clifton: No i i
Christopher Brown: but
Frank Clifton: it's the all around camer uh microphone isn't it. The the microphone picks up
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: the speeches
Clarence Ortiz: Is it an
Frank Clifton: from
Clarence Ortiz: only
Frank Clifton: anywhere.
Clarence Ortiz: a single mic or a microphone array?
Christopher Brown: Well so it's a microphone array.
David Barnes: Oh it's
Clarence Ortiz: Mm-hmm.
David Barnes: very costly, microphone
Christopher Brown: No
David Barnes: array.
Christopher Brown: it's
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: just a single microphone, and you I I think uh we we put it here because I think when you when you are browsing your L_C_D_
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: you will be close to well it's better to to to place it here th
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: than here,
Clarence Ortiz: Okay.
Christopher Brown: for instance.
Frank Clifton: yeah.
Christopher Brown: And here is a little switch that control if you want the the speaker uh recognition system to um to be on or off. And uh so this remote control comes up with its charger.
David Barnes: How much does it cost this one?
Christopher Brown: Well this this prototype is um made for about uh well fi
Frank Clifton: For the
Christopher Brown: fi fifteen fifteen dollars
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: Fifteen dollars?
Christopher Brown: fifteen dollars, but uh well it's
David Barnes: above
Christopher Brown: not
David Barnes: it's
Christopher Brown: it's not
David Barnes: above
Christopher Brown: uh
David Barnes: the budget.
Christopher Brown: yeah, but uh it's just a prototype and if we uh if we optimises the um the uh voila.
Clarence Ortiz: The cost would be le reduced.
Christopher Brown: Yeah the and the
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: the production costs we we can achieve
Frank Clifton: Hmm.
Christopher Brown: uh about ten dollars.
David Barnes: How many b battery is there?
Christopher Brown: How many, excuse Clarence Ortiz?
David Barnes: Battery.
Christopher Brown: Well uh f battery, we use uh
Frank Clifton: Is
Christopher Brown: about
Frank Clifton: it n
Christopher Brown: uh
Frank Clifton: the two A_A_s batteries in
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: it. A_A_ rechargeable batteries.
Christopher Brown: Rechargeable of course,
Frank Clifton: Yeah rechargeable
Christopher Brown: because we have
Frank Clifton: batteries.
Christopher Brown: the charger.
Frank Clifton: We have the charger so
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Frank Clifton: it's no problem.
Christopher Brown: and you just
David Barnes: So one one battery?
Christopher Brown: On uh yeah one battery.
Clarence Ortiz: Is that two or one?
David Barnes: It's kinetic reserve.
Frank Clifton: Actually uh it's a flexible thing. You just n
Clarence Ortiz: Now
Frank Clifton: uh
Clarence Ortiz: what is the whole day rating for that?
Christopher Brown: The
Clarence Ortiz: Whole
Christopher Brown: excuse
Clarence Ortiz: day's
Christopher Brown: Clarence Ortiz?
Clarence Ortiz: rating. What type of battery?
Christopher Brown: Oh yeah it's just a r uh simple battery a rechargeable uh
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: if you uh
Frank Clifton: yeah.
Christopher Brown: like it's exist.
Clarence Ortiz: Something like a two A_, A_ three size batteries?
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: So and if you want to charge the battery you just put the remote control like that
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: to plug in the
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: the charger and uh leave it uh alone,
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: it's alright. Then the next time you pick it, oh
Frank Clifton: At
Christopher Brown: it
Frank Clifton: uh
Christopher Brown: works.
Frank Clifton: yeah. I forgot to tell you there is only a single button there,
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Frank Clifton: b this
Christopher Brown: just explain
Frank Clifton: button
Christopher Brown: the button uh
Frank Clifton: yeah alright.
Christopher Brown: Norman.
Frank Clifton: This button is like the mouse is like a joystick, you can move in three hundred and sixty degrees of direction so you can make a turn and it the additi functions associated to all the actions you ma you have a click you have a double click
David Barnes: Mm.
Frank Clifton: all in a single button. You can move up, down, left, right, or you can do a swing. So a swing to the left, a swing to the right defines other functions. So even though it's a single button, but it is pretty s flexible because of the three hundred and sixty degree movement.
Clarence Ortiz: And the L_C_D_ is this one, on the
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: remote?
Christopher Brown: Yep.
Frank Clifton: This is the version y that comes with L_C_D_.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Here I present another version without the L_C_D_.
David Barnes: I think it's not a good idea because after maybe one or two months
Frank Clifton: Mm.
David Barnes: of function is getting destroyed. If
Frank Clifton: Uh
David Barnes: you
Frank Clifton: okay
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Frank Clifton: this is
Christopher Brown: it's
Frank Clifton: new prototype uh.
Christopher Brown: So we have the the second version also with the different uh button configuration. The second version is also simpler, we d uh we had just uh I have to put the microphone also. So basically th it's the
Clarence Ortiz: Uh-huh
Christopher Brown: same
Clarence Ortiz: and also
Christopher Brown: uh
Clarence Ortiz: the switch.
Christopher Brown: yeah.
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: Okay.
Christopher Brown: Basically
Frank Clifton: yeah.
Christopher Brown: it's the same uh things uh uh as uh I presented before. But here we have uh we have uh four buttons for navigation. Press one button uh acting
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: as a a enter button. So um yeah according to what you said it's more robust to the user.
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Clarence Ortiz: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Brown: And uh it's also cheaper to produce. We can produce uh such remote control for about uh four dollars.
David Barnes: No four dollars, it's good.
Clarence Ortiz: And I think you forgot a point here have an button to find the charger,
Frank Clifton: Oh no th
Clarence Ortiz: because that's
Frank Clifton: actually
Clarence Ortiz: a major
Frank Clifton: th
Clarence Ortiz: that's
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Frank Clifton: we'll
Clarence Ortiz: a
Frank Clifton: come
Christopher Brown: it's
Frank Clifton: to that
Christopher Brown: it's
Frank Clifton: point in
Christopher Brown: it's
Frank Clifton: our
Christopher Brown: embed in the
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: uh speech recognition system.
Clarence Ortiz: Okay and
Christopher Brown: So
Clarence Ortiz: if you disable speech recognition system then?
Frank Clifton: W w I'll I'll come to that point later
Clarence Ortiz: Mm
Frank Clifton: on.
Clarence Ortiz: hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm.
Christopher Brown: so Norman will explain to you.
David Barnes: And
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: we
Clarence Ortiz: Okay.
David Barnes: will we will serve the charger with this?
Christopher Brown: Yeah yeah
Frank Clifton: Th they
David Barnes: With
Christopher Brown: of course
David Barnes: the remote control.
Christopher Brown: mm.
Frank Clifton: either these with the uh the the charger any in either versions you they they ha they use the same charger
David Barnes: Okay
Frank Clifton: yeah.
David Barnes: so the price of the charger included in the
Frank Clifton: Uh it's a standard module so you should get it for a cheap price uh.
Christopher Brown: Thank thank you.
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Christopher Brown: And so
Frank Clifton: It's that
Christopher Brown: mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: same charger that you can use for the hand-phone but uh again depends on the types. I think we have to investigate more on that, but
David Barnes: The price should be below twelve
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: and a half Euro.
Frank Clifton: Yeah
David Barnes: Well
Frank Clifton: but
David Barnes: that's
Frank Clifton: as the Marketing
David Barnes: so
Frank Clifton: Manager says, people is willing to people are willing to pay more for good design.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah people
David Barnes: We
Clarence Ortiz: are willing
David Barnes: have
Clarence Ortiz: to
David Barnes: we
Clarence Ortiz: pay more,
David Barnes: have just
Clarence Ortiz: but the company is not willing to invest more
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: The price
Clarence Ortiz: at the
David Barnes: of
Clarence Ortiz: moment.
David Barnes: selling is twenty
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: five Euros.
Frank Clifton: Mm-hmm.
David Barnes: And the price of
Christopher Brown: Alright
David Barnes: production
Christopher Brown: please uh go on Norman with the special
Clarence Ortiz: Or
Christopher Brown: features.
Clarence Ortiz: uh
Frank Clifton: Yeah we'll we'll come up to that, the the the thing that makes this the controller cheap is that it is modular so you want more function you pay more. If you want less function i i if you want a reasonable price you pay for the functions that you add on to the system, so is uh modular.
David Barnes: That's for this basis function and if you want more you pay
Frank Clifton: Yeah
David Barnes: more.
Frank Clifton: yeah,
Clarence Ortiz: Something
Frank Clifton: for example
Clarence Ortiz: like
Frank Clifton: the L_C_D_,
Clarence Ortiz: customised.
Frank Clifton: you can take it
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
Frank Clifton: you can put
David Barnes: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: it put it back in, or you can use the other one, or the speech recogniser with the microphone yeah yeah. You want a microphone to put in the
David Barnes: Okay.
Frank Clifton: speech recogniser you don't wan you pay less for the system you see.
Clarence Ortiz: Mm hmm hmm hmm.
Frank Clifton: So
Clarence Ortiz: Hmm okay.
Frank Clifton: It's pretty flexible in the yeah
Christopher Brown: You also
Frank Clifton: price.
Christopher Brown: have the
David Barnes: But
Christopher Brown: the the two other modules for the parental control
Frank Clifton: Uh yeah yeah you should
Clarence Ortiz: And
Christopher Brown: that
Frank Clifton: present
Clarence Ortiz: this
Christopher Brown: that
Frank Clifton: that.
Clarence Ortiz: is
Christopher Brown: you ca
Clarence Ortiz: other one?
Christopher Brown: you can add up to the to your remote control i i if you uh if you want to to have more more power on what you do,
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: and uh which channel you want to choose and so on. H here is just the the the module for the kids and th if the parents want
Clarence Ortiz: Mm
Christopher Brown: to
Clarence Ortiz: hmm hmm
Christopher Brown: watch
Clarence Ortiz: hmm.
Christopher Brown: T_V_, up they come up with their modules, they just plug in it
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: and they can have all the control they want here.
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: We also have this module for uh old people
Frank Clifton: Hmm.
Christopher Brown: with big buttons, clearly labelled, and it acts like the previous
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: one, you just plug in and it works.
Clarence Ortiz: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: Yeah the i the idea the the conceptual idea is that simplicity and powerful. Simplicity meaning that we have few buttons, powerful is that all the controls with the one you saw we saw earlier in the meetings with lots of buttons n but here you only have few buttons but you retain the mm the same powerful functionalities. But in addition with simplicity. So that's the best idea, the cond that that's our uh an innovation um uh i in this uh design here.
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: Okay now we come to other important features that I did not tell you. The first one is the speech recogniser, again it's detachable or add-on. And then we also have security feature for example this here oop it's very robust, it doesn't break and the material, what's the material
Christopher Brown: The
Frank Clifton: again?
Christopher Brown: titanium and
David Barnes: Titanium.
Christopher Brown: so it's very uh
Frank Clifton: Again uh and the battery life is uh is an is an endurable one, again because this is A_A_ batteries you can choose the types of battery you want.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah that's fine.
Frank Clifton: Lithium-ion may be a good one, but you can replace it with cheaper one, again you pay for what you get, and then um y the other p points are robust and misplacement reminder. So when you finish watching your T_V_ and you the you t you turn off the T_V_, uh and then there's this message coming out that uh please put that back to the charger,
Clarence Ortiz: Okay.
Frank Clifton: so that's the or is it that's the reminder part. Yeah and um And it also use a programmable channel and vocabulary, so we didn't define the vocabulary so it's up to the user to define
Clarence Ortiz: Mm hmm hmm hmm.
Frank Clifton: so sorry? And then uh because of the chil because children are using the device so we have also a a of T_V_ programmes by genre, and this can be used by the adult or by the children. So instead of choosing the channel you are choosing the T_V_ contents of the night. So it's pretty powerful, and that's that's why the num buttons are reduced, because of this feature. Yeah. And and for the materials that is cheap to produce I think uh it's quite clear from yeah. And also like the and the fancy designs yeah. Maybe we can
David Barnes: What
Frank Clifton: improve
David Barnes: what's
Frank Clifton: more on the design
David Barnes: Maybe yeah. What's
Frank Clifton: but
David Barnes: the price to p to produce?
Frank Clifton: uh this is the
Christopher Brown: Well so the price to produce For uh the simplest one, say we start from four dollars to produce such a device. Uh it's
David Barnes: With
Christopher Brown: about
David Barnes: with
Christopher Brown: it
David Barnes: with the
Christopher Brown: The
Clarence Ortiz: With the
David Barnes: charge?
Clarence Ortiz: charger?
Christopher Brown: without without the charger
David Barnes: Okay.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: it's about uh well two dollars to produce uh the microphone and speech recognition systems. Two dollars for the uh for the add-on modules, and finally three dollars for the charger. So if you uh sum up uh everything
David Barnes: We don't have charger.
Christopher Brown: wi with the L_C_D_, which costs two dollar, you have two plus four plus four plus two plus two. It's
Clarence Ortiz: I think
Christopher Brown: about
Clarence Ortiz: we can use Excel.
David Barnes: We don't have all the options.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: so the total
David Barnes: Charger
Christopher Brown: cost if
David Barnes: we
Christopher Brown: you
David Barnes: don't have
Christopher Brown: if
David Barnes: charger
Christopher Brown: you want
David Barnes: here
Christopher Brown: all the
David Barnes: either.
Christopher Brown: fuct functionalities will be about uh fifteen dollars.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: No it's
Christopher Brown: But it's just if you want all functionalities.
David Barnes: it's below the the the budget.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: Excuse Clarence Ortiz?
David Barnes: It's below the bu the budget.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah it's a nice
David Barnes: We
Clarence Ortiz: input but we have an other inputs from the l public demands. I think we will just have a rough look and then we can make our statements, and we can finalise the product based
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: on this discu
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: I think we can just go to my presentation then. We can wind up. Or we could uh come to some f uh final conclusions.
Clarence Ortiz: So the marketing made an evaluation criteria and these were some of the findings, and uh in the market the people are not really interested with L_C_D_, without L_C_D_, with speech recognition interface, or without speech recognition interface, but most of the people what they are interested is first thing is, they want to have an fancy look and feel, it should be very fancy with colourful and uh very handy to hold. And
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: the second thing is it should be much more technologically innovative. Of course in that we could put L_C_D_ or recognition to be more technologically innovative. And the third one is easy to use.
Christopher Brown: Well
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: I think that the technical in innovation is is in the product itself since we haven't yet a remote who are allowing to to choose interactively with the T_V_ screen uh uh with just four buttons.
Clarence Ortiz: Okay and if we go to the next slide, here you can find these are the latest fashion updates, and so this in Paris and Milan they have detected this trends that the this year it's going to be an year of fruit and vegetable, so people are really interested
Frank Clifton: Spongy
Clarence Ortiz: to see if
Frank Clifton: spongy.
Clarence Ortiz: they have an remote in the shape of the fruit or a vegetable, or
Frank Clifton: Mm
Clarence Ortiz: whatever they like.
Frank Clifton: mm.
Clarence Ortiz: So I think it should be much more customised
Frank Clifton: Mm
Clarence Ortiz: to make a different
Frank Clifton: mm.
Clarence Ortiz: uh shapes. And the second thing is, and if the material, they really do not want it to be very hard, as in the case of very pl plastic or titanium, it should be somewhat spongy.
Christopher Brown: Okay.
Frank Clifton: But the the problem is that uh is it robust to mishandling?
Clarence Ortiz: Um.
Frank Clifton: We have you should find a material that is robust at the same time spongy.
Christopher Brown: A
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
Christopher Brown: sponge.
Clarence Ortiz: so
Frank Clifton: Spongy.
Clarence Ortiz: uh so finally we have these three criterias. One is fancy look, second is innovative, and third is easy to use. So these are the f uh three criteria on which we are going to build our remote.
Frank Clifton: Mm-hmm.
Clarence Ortiz: So
Christopher Brown: Hmm.
Clarence Ortiz: and we have an evaluation criteria for each one of these, say that we have a seven point scale, from one to seven,
Frank Clifton: Mm-hmm.
Clarence Ortiz: and for each of the product you could just give Clarence Ortiz the scale according to this.
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: So now you have with L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_, so
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: on this scale, if it is true, if it is if it has a fancy look you could just tell Clarence Ortiz one, or if it is false, it doesn't it looks uh it doesn't look much fancy, then you could just tell Clarence Ortiz seven. So
Frank Clifton: So
Clarence Ortiz: We can make our study on this and
Frank Clifton: so is the e evaluation depending on us or other users?
Clarence Ortiz: No no we have you have designed two products now,
David Barnes: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: one is with L_C_D_ and without
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_.
Frank Clifton: But who will give the scoring uh we ourself or
David Barnes: You.
Clarence Ortiz: According
Frank Clifton: or a
Clarence Ortiz: to
Frank Clifton: third party?
Clarence Ortiz: you, no according to you designers, how will feel does it uh with
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_? Okay let us make this L_ and without L_C_D_. On on this scale the L_C_D_
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: remote control. How do
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: you look how does it look? D is it very fancy or doesn't look much fancy?
Christopher Brown: Well it doesn't look much fancy I'll I'll say three or four.
Clarence Ortiz: And you both agree for that?
David Barnes: And you?
Frank Clifton: I think we can improve on the design.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Som
Christopher Brown: It's it
Frank Clifton: someone
Christopher Brown: it
Frank Clifton: um commented this is like a the stone age uh design. Um we have been focused all all this time on the
Christopher Brown: Technical
Frank Clifton: on the technical
Christopher Brown: aspects.
Frank Clifton: aspect, functional aspect, but also the simplicity.
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: As for the design maybe we c should hire a designer
Clarence Ortiz: So I take
Frank Clifton: to
Clarence Ortiz: three on
Frank Clifton: help.
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: with
Christopher Brown: a three.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_? So without
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_ how would you rate it?
Christopher Brown: Uh four.
Clarence Ortiz: Four.
Christopher Brown: I think it's it's uh more easy to make f fancy things when it's not complicated
Frank Clifton: Yeah. Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: And in the sense of innovativeness, with L_C_D_.
Christopher Brown: Well it's it's the same for both so I will give a five, six.
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: Five with L_C_D_ and
Christopher Brown: Well five also uh
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: Norman please.
David Barnes: Uh
Frank Clifton: from the innovation aspect I feel that uh what is most innovative of our prototype compared to the existing prototypes that we saw l in the last meeting is that um the retrieval of T_V_ programmes by content, because uh that is really innovative, and for now and another innovation we have is simplicity and simplicity, few buttons, we've uh
Christopher Brown: With lot of functionalities.
Frank Clifton: A lot of functionalities.
Clarence Ortiz: So
Frank Clifton: So
Clarence Ortiz: without
Frank Clifton: that is
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_?
Frank Clifton: uh that is uh for both th Our gi I think that the our our product is uh has the best in all well this is a biased judgement
Clarence Ortiz: No
Frank Clifton: because
Clarence Ortiz: no according
Frank Clifton: we designed
Clarence Ortiz: to design
Frank Clifton: them.
Clarence Ortiz: aspect we want to know how
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: would you feel the innovativeness?
Frank Clifton: Uh the innovation is v is very high I think.
Clarence Ortiz: With
David Barnes: For
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_.
David Barnes: L_C_D_.
Clarence Ortiz: And without
Frank Clifton: Both.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_?
Christopher Brown: Mm for both it's
Frank Clifton: For both.
Christopher Brown: the the same innovations.
Frank Clifton: It's the same innovation.
Clarence Ortiz: Okay.
Frank Clifton: So maybe I can put six to seven.
Christopher Brown: six, let's
David Barnes: Without
Christopher Brown: go for
David Barnes: L_C_D_.
Christopher Brown: six.
Frank Clifton: Both.
Clarence Ortiz: No actually uh to make it with L_C_D_ you make more efforts. So I there is high innovativeness included if you make it with L_C_D_
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: y then when it is without L_C_D_
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: there is not much
David Barnes: Uh no
Clarence Ortiz: innovativeness.
David Barnes: innovative yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: So
Frank Clifton: Uh
Clarence Ortiz: we
Frank Clifton: uh
Clarence Ortiz: can't
Frank Clifton: uh
Clarence Ortiz: go
Frank Clifton: there w there was a there was a issue here is that what are what is the display on the L_C_D_? We haven't really uh
Christopher Brown: Talk
Clarence Ortiz: I mean
Frank Clifton: determined
Christopher Brown: about
Clarence Ortiz: that what you are sayin that's
Frank Clifton: what
Clarence Ortiz: what the
Frank Clifton: are actually
Clarence Ortiz: design
Frank Clifton: actually it's good to have a L_C_D_ but what are we gonna display on a L_C_D_?
Clarence Ortiz: No it's like this, I mean on the L_C_D_, according to what I understand from your model is,
David Barnes: So let's remove
Clarence Ortiz: you
David Barnes: it.
Clarence Ortiz: have a joystick here,
Frank Clifton: Yeah?
Clarence Ortiz: and you have L_C_D_,
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: you just press your joystick, you get here a programme.
Frank Clifton: Yeah but
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: Uh
Christopher Brown: but
Clarence Ortiz: then
Christopher Brown: you have
David Barnes: But
Christopher Brown: the same programme on the T_V_ screen.
Frank Clifton: Yes exactly.
David Barnes: This is the problem.
Clarence Ortiz: No on the T_V_ you don't it doesn't display on the T_V_ now.
Christopher Brown: If you have the L_C_D_,
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_?
Christopher Brown: but if n
Clarence Ortiz: Then uh there is no meaning in having it on the T_V_.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: a channels, volume and all the stuff
Frank Clifton: But
Clarence Ortiz: and what
Frank Clifton: you cannot
Clarence Ortiz: a
Frank Clifton: display all on a L_C_D_.
Clarence Ortiz: I mean that depends upon your design, so
Frank Clifton: Anyway for for the users who who who opt for L_C_D_
Clarence Ortiz: I mean
Frank Clifton: we'll give them the give them the L_C_D_, we give what the customer uh wants, right.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: So without L_C_D_ you want to put it fi the same level of innovativeness? And which do you recommend e easy to use, with L_C_D_ or without L_C_D_?
Christopher Brown: Well I think both are really easy to use because there are few button buttons,
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: and uh well t p the menu are clear,
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: well-organised, so
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: Well with little knowing of the technology you can you can easily use the product so I will give a six for the easy
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: to use.
Frank Clifton: I think sorry.
David Barnes: No it's just if I I see the the f the rate I think it's better to do it without L_C_D_. Because
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah.
David Barnes: that's with L_C_D_ just will increase the price, and I thi i they have the same rate so
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
David Barnes: without L_C_D_
Clarence Ortiz: Or we can
David Barnes: it
Clarence Ortiz: just
David Barnes: will be
Clarence Ortiz: go back to the previous slide uh where we ha we have a few updates. So I mean in the product design you could just amend it to make some few changes
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: according to fruit and
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: vegetable or a spongy touch
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: without L_C_D_ and without speech recognition. Even then our product is going to be
Christopher Brown: Yeah, it's
Clarence Ortiz: very
Christopher Brown: cheaper
Clarence Ortiz: good.
Christopher Brown: to produce.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Mm. S
Christopher Brown: And uh if the the well if we have less technology we have more liberty to uh
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
Christopher Brown: for
Clarence Ortiz: that's
Christopher Brown: the shape
Clarence Ortiz: right.
Christopher Brown: and uh things like that so
Frank Clifton: Yeah. I have another thing to say about the easy to use aspect. I think the easy to use uh aspect is different for different people.
Christopher Brown: Yep.
Frank Clifton: For the
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: young generation easy to use may be very complicated because uh they w they wants lot of controls with lots of buttons. For kids they want simply the s similarit
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
Frank Clifton: for
Clarence Ortiz: yeah
Frank Clifton: the old
Clarence Ortiz: that's
Frank Clifton: people
Clarence Ortiz: right.
Frank Clifton: they want simplicity, so that's why we have the parental module. Uh we can ha have build a more complex design if if they want it, but but uh what I'm trying to say here is that the um we have different sets of buttons for different kinds of people. So in terms of easy to use I think it's very user customisable. User customisation is very important yeah.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Yeah so
Clarence Ortiz: So without
Christopher Brown: Six.
Clarence Ortiz: L_C_D_ I just take it five?
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Frank Clifton: W
Clarence Ortiz: Or
Frank Clifton: uh
Clarence Ortiz: you want it to be six?
Christopher Brown: Um six.
Frank Clifton: I think it's the same. Yeah.
Christopher Brown: Yes as you say, with better uh
David Barnes: Without
Clarence Ortiz: S s
David Barnes: L_C_D_.
Clarence Ortiz: oh
Christopher Brown: yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: I think it's better to have this without L_C_D_.
Christopher Brown: And to improve the
Clarence Ortiz: As our
Christopher Brown: the
Clarence Ortiz: Programme
Christopher Brown: look.
Clarence Ortiz: Manager s
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: Pro Project Manager says that without L_C_D_ it is going to reduce the cost also,
David Barnes: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: and
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: it's going to be much
Christopher Brown: Yes
Clarence Ortiz: simpler
Christopher Brown: and to
Clarence Ortiz: to
Christopher Brown: give
Clarence Ortiz: use.
Christopher Brown: us more liberty to have a fancy look so
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: so let's go back to our laboratory and
Clarence Ortiz: So.
David Barnes: What
Frank Clifton: To improve
David Barnes: a what
Frank Clifton: on
David Barnes: what
Frank Clifton: the design.
David Barnes: about the sys speech recognition?
Frank Clifton: Huh?
David Barnes: what about the integration of
Frank Clifton: The
David Barnes: speech
Frank Clifton: speech recogniser
David Barnes: recognition?
Frank Clifton: is a add-on module.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Right?
Clarence Ortiz: That's going to be an optional. If somebody wants to buy it they can have it, otherwise
David Barnes: Ah
Clarence Ortiz: no.
David Barnes: so it's optional
Clarence Ortiz: It's
David Barnes: with
Clarence Ortiz: an
David Barnes: the
Clarence Ortiz: optional.
David Barnes: okay.
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: It's optional yeah, since well according to this study uh people more
David Barnes: I think
Christopher Brown: likes
David Barnes: it will
Christopher Brown: more
David Barnes: be I
Christopher Brown: to have
David Barnes: think
Christopher Brown: a spongy
David Barnes: i
Christopher Brown: uh remote
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: control than
David Barnes: I think it will be better if we have all these modules in the same remote control, because maybe parents will
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah, but
David Barnes: lose
Clarence Ortiz: I mean
David Barnes: these
Clarence Ortiz: if you have
David Barnes: uh
Clarence Ortiz: an add-ons, the kids may just uh hide the parental module
David Barnes: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: and
David Barnes: Or
Clarence Ortiz: so
David Barnes: ma
Clarence Ortiz: that their
David Barnes: yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: parents can't
David Barnes: Or
Clarence Ortiz: use
David Barnes: maybe
Clarence Ortiz: it.
David Barnes: parents they can for forget where they put it or, so mayb better if you have all this in the same
Clarence Ortiz: In the same set, yeah,
Frank Clifton: Oh.
Clarence Ortiz: and and individual buttons to make them work.
David Barnes: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: The problem is if i we are bla if a customer wants a certain component, and doesn't want the parental control because it's a couple who do not have children when you sell the product in the market you could meet any kind of people, and not all people will need all the functionalities we propose to them. So we might lose the customer because of this. I don't know, what do you
David Barnes: So
Frank Clifton: think
David Barnes: you mean that
Frank Clifton: uh?
David Barnes: even if these modules will be will be functional uh will be optional.
Frank Clifton: Yes exa what do you think, I don't know. You are Marketing
Clarence Ortiz: I mean
David Barnes: Uh
Clarence Ortiz: how
Frank Clifton: Manag.
Clarence Ortiz: to how to how to make a marketing survey that
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: uh how many married couple or how many couples have a T_V_ or to the number or singles who have a television.
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: So based on that I think
Frank Clifton: Yeah. But the the question is n does those modularity increase the production cost or decrease the production cost?
David Barnes: I think it inc increase.
Christopher Brown: if Well you can if you had
David Barnes: I
Christopher Brown: uh
David Barnes: think it
Christopher Brown: something
David Barnes: i increases.
Christopher Brown: li Oh no, because if you if you add uh something well yeah maybe because it's three different pieces uh
David Barnes: Hmm.
Christopher Brown: to to to build but
Clarence Ortiz: But you can make it on a single P_C_ with three different options.
Christopher Brown: Yeah yeah yeah it's I think it's cheaper if you
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: if you already built the all the functionalities um
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: on the same module, but uh
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: On the same P_C_B_
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Clarence Ortiz: yeah
Frank Clifton: Well
Clarence Ortiz: yeah.
Frank Clifton: well the other aspect is that if in the when they have the ar existing product you you gonna maintain the the you're gonna keep the same customer, because the same customer will come back to buy other add-ons.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah that's right.
Frank Clifton: So
Clarence Ortiz: I mean you could
Frank Clifton: so
Clarence Ortiz: just provide with an optional.
Frank Clifton: Yeah i i so if don't don't buy now they can buy i in the future. So in in that way you're actually keeping the cus the same customer, attracting them to come back in again and again.
Clarence Ortiz: So it's something like a Microsoft product
Frank Clifton: We're
David Barnes: And
Frank Clifton: not
Clarence Ortiz: update.
Frank Clifton: trying to follow
David Barnes: and we
Frank Clifton: the Microsoft
David Barnes: we we we we we don't want that.
Frank Clifton: and we don't want to the m
Clarence Ortiz: Updates and we sell it. We make updates and sell it.
Frank Clifton: Yeah well if the buyers can be up the th would be can be upgraded, it would be a good thing right?
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: Yeah, it depends on the
Clarence Ortiz: And uh what's the idea about uh
Frank Clifton: v
Clarence Ortiz: the shape of
Frank Clifton: production.
Clarence Ortiz: the remote controls? Uh
Christopher Brown: Well
Clarence Ortiz: can
Christopher Brown: so
Clarence Ortiz: they be made into a fruit and vegetable
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: types?
Christopher Brown: yeah
Clarence Ortiz: Do you require different
Christopher Brown: I think
Clarence Ortiz: types
Christopher Brown: we are
Clarence Ortiz: of P_C_B_s and
Christopher Brown: yeah but we are also the um well the components will have to change because uh we have to deal with the shape and um but
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: I don't think it will uh increase the cost too much so
Clarence Ortiz: Or uh it could be like this the P_C_B_ would be the same for all, but only the exterior uh
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: shape is different o for all.
Christopher Brown: Uh well but it's a bit complicated to if if if you need machines to different machines to
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: um ah well
Frank Clifton: What we can change is to propose the customers with skins. For example the i the mobile phones nowaday,
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah, yeah that's
Frank Clifton: they sell
Clarence Ortiz: right.
Frank Clifton: different kinds of skin and then people just feel that oh I have a new skin and looks better.
Christopher Brown: Yeah yeah we can have the same
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: global shape and then uh
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: add on
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah that's
Christopher Brown: skins
Clarence Ortiz: right.
Christopher Brown: and
Frank Clifton: Yeah.
Christopher Brown: with with this uh tex spongy texture uh things
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: like that.
Frank Clifton: you can pl in what material would that be in uh?
Christopher Brown: Sponge.
Clarence Ortiz: I think you need to look into the material.
Frank Clifton: Yeah or furry like a pet dog kind of thing.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah yeah.
Christopher Brown: Okay.
David Barnes: So
Christopher Brown: So we finished the prototype uh presentation if you have uh something else to say.
Clarence Ortiz: I think David Barnes would be interested to look about the financial issues in making these models.
David Barnes: Project evaluation project satisfaction, for example. I don't know, we have to ask these question. We have to give answers so
Frank Clifton: I suppose that you this criteria, is it?
David Barnes: Project evaluation.
Frank Clifton: Room for creativity. This room is a bit small, but but I think it's okay for us to work with.
Clarence Ortiz: I feel it's fine, we know we don't need uh I think it's okay.
Frank Clifton: Yeah mm.
Christopher Brown: That
Clarence Ortiz: This is
Christopher Brown: was
Clarence Ortiz: fine
Christopher Brown: good.
Clarence Ortiz: for making a presentat
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Clarence Ortiz: for project presentations.
Frank Clifton: Yeah
Christopher Brown: Yeah.
Frank Clifton: anyway we have the laboratory nearby to build our modules so it's okay.
David Barnes: Mm-hmm.
Clarence Ortiz: And the leadership was excellent.
David Barnes: Yeah I think so.
Frank Clifton: Good job
Christopher Brown: Fine yes uh.
Frank Clifton: good
David Barnes: He gave you the liberty to talk
Frank Clifton: job.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
David Barnes: as
Clarence Ortiz: that's
David Barnes: you
Clarence Ortiz: right.
David Barnes: wants.
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah that's right.
David Barnes: Uh the teamwork was very very good.
Christopher Brown: Very democratic.
David Barnes: I was really I am very satisfying to work with with
Christopher Brown: Thank
David Barnes: you.
Christopher Brown: you.
Frank Clifton: Thank you.
David Barnes: Oh.
Christopher Brown: Alright.
Frank Clifton: Alright.
Clarence Ortiz: And new ideas found. Any new ideas to make these presentations more interactive and more interesting?
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: Come up with new product.
Clarence Ortiz: I mean uh what type of product would you think could we make this more interesting?
David Barnes: Less fancy.
Frank Clifton: Mm we I I know something, we need more cakes, more biscuits on the table while we have meetings.
Christopher Brown: Yeah and also more well uh more seriously I think it's
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: it's a good idea to have uh clear clear points whenever we do a meeting uh prior to the meeting to have uh well a list with the points who will be discussed or things like that, but I think it's alright. We achieved uh project goal I
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
Christopher Brown: think.
Clarence Ortiz: that is within
David Barnes: De
Clarence Ortiz: the budget.
Frank Clifton: Mm.
Christopher Brown: It's w yes,
Clarence Ortiz: And the evaluation
Christopher Brown: more
David Barnes: Without
Christopher Brown: or less.
Clarence Ortiz: was
David Barnes: without L_C_D_, without speech recognition,
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah that's
Christopher Brown: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: right.
Christopher Brown: but
David Barnes: it will be simple.
Christopher Brown: Alright.
Clarence Ortiz: And the next
Christopher Brown: So.
Clarence Ortiz: is celebration. So
Christopher Brown: So uh coffee machine.
David Barnes: Yeah free free coffee.
Christopher Brown: Okay.
Frank Clifton: Alright then, we finished?
David Barnes: Yeah
Clarence Ortiz: Yeah
David Barnes: thank
Frank Clifton: Thank
Clarence Ortiz: thank
David Barnes: you
Frank Clifton: you
David Barnes: for
Frank Clifton: very
Clarence Ortiz: you,
David Barnes: your
Clarence Ortiz: thank
Frank Clifton: much.
Clarence Ortiz: you very much.
David Barnes: work and | Frank Clifton and Christopher Brown presented two prototypes, one with an LCD screen and one without. They demonstrated how to navigate through the menus and presented the voice recognition and energy source components and the charging stand. They discussed their modular design. They discussed the parental control module and the titanium casing. The production costs were below budget for the basic models. Clarence Ortiz presented three important user requirements, and also the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. He then led an evaluation of the prototypes according to these requirements. The group did not feel that the remotes sufficiently met the criteria. They decided to continue working on the design and to take out the LCD screen and voice recognition. They discussed the modular design and its advantages in attracting customers. The group discussed how to incorporate the fashion trends; it was suggested that one shape was used, which could be customized with skins. David Barnes led an evaluation of the group's experience on the project. The group was pleased with the teamwork and leadership, but one participant complained that not enough information was given about each meeting's agenda. | 3 | amisum | test |
Roy Braud: Okay.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Roy Braud: Everybody ready?
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Robert Bennett: I think so.
Roy Braud: Uh I think the first do is introduce ourselves
Robert Bennett: Yeah that's a
Roy Braud: and
Robert Bennett: plan
Roy Braud: everybody's name and what your function is? So maybe we start
Floyd Ruiz: Okay.
Roy Braud: with you?
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah, my name is Francina. And an user interface my role is uh the main responsibility is user interface.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Floyd Ruiz: And my role is to design uh a television remote control.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm. Okay.
Robert Bennett: And I'm a marketing person. I wanna figure out how to sell them.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm. And your name is?
Robert Bennett: My name is Eileen.
Roy Braud: Okay.
Delbert Story: Yeah. Uh I'm Jeanne-Oui. Um role industrial designer and my responsibilities are uh uh um deal with the technical-functional designs and specifications of user interface and dealing with user interface design.
Roy Braud: Very good. And as you already know I am Betty. I am Roy Braud for today. So why don't we look at the presentation to see what we really are supposed to do.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Roy Braud: Um. Yes y opening, acquaintance, tool training well, I think, already I guess the tool is really our the computer,
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: as far as I can see. Uh we get ins each of us will get instructions and we'll take it from there. Project plan, that falls under the same heading pretty much. Um, I don't think we have any great discussion at this point.
Robert Bennett: No.
Roy Braud: Um. Here is what this thing should be. This thing we are gonna um uh design is a new remote control. Uh should be original,
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: trendy, and, of course, user friendly. So maybe you wanna make some notes of that.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Roy Braud: Okay?
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: All right. Here is what the functional design is supposed to achieve. Um. That is it's gonna be individual work and then at the meeting we'll discuss what uh we have come up with. The same goes for the conceptual design, there will be individual work whic and then discussion afterwards. Detailed design,
Robert Bennett: Mm 'kay so
Roy Braud: same thing basically.
Robert Bennett: Three different types of design that we're gonna be concerned with
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Robert Bennett: okay.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Robert Bennett: Functional, conception and detailed.
Roy Braud: I can't write with this thing.
Robert Bennett: Maybe we should redesign it.
Roy Braud: Yes.
Robert Bennett: After we've finished the remote control we'll get to that.
Roy Braud: Yeah, okay. All right? Then, tool training try out the white board, participant can draw their favourite animal. Does anybody want to go and see how the white board works? So that in case we have to, in the next meeting, present something on the white board. You wanna go Eileen and
Robert Bennett: Okay, I'll see what I can do.
Roy Braud: Whether you without hanging yourself.
Robert Bennett: See if I remember how to draw a kitty cat or a rabbit or something.
Roy Braud: And remember you have to press so it works.
Robert Bennett: So that it will record
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Robert Bennett: okay. Um uh um traditional kitty cat.
Roy Braud: Fat, a fat cat.
Robert Bennett: I've a very fat cat. And it likes to sit like that.
Roy Braud: Okay.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Roy Braud: And you're Francine,
Floyd Ruiz: Yes,
Roy Braud: right?
Floyd Ruiz: I'm
Roy Braud: Would you
Floyd Ruiz: Francina.
Roy Braud: like s like just to see
Floyd Ruiz: Yes,
Roy Braud: um
Floyd Ruiz: sure.
Roy Braud: how it feels, so that you have a little idea?
Robert Bennett: Am I supposed
Roy Braud: In
Robert Bennett: to wipe off that or
Roy Braud: No, no. No, that's okay.
Floyd Ruiz: No, Okay.
Robert Bennett: okay.
Roy Braud: I don't know, we'll get to that later.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Floyd Ruiz: What should I draw?
Delbert Story: Snake.
Floyd Ruiz: I'm going to draw a snake. How does it look like?
Robert Bennett: Uh, okay.
Roy Braud: Okay. Okay.
Robert Bennett: I hope the kitty cat is hungry 'cause I don't like snakes.
Roy Braud: Here's the project finance uh which, of course, we all have to think about when we design this thing. Um selling price is supposed to be twenty five Euro. Uh
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: profit aim for the company is fifty million Euro, the market range unlimited meaning international
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Roy Braud: and the production cost should not exceed hopefully should be less than twelve fifty Euro.
Robert Bennett: Mm 'kay that should keep everybody on their toes and challenged.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Robert Bennett: Profit. Um
Roy Braud: So
Robert Bennett: is
Roy Braud: these
Robert Bennett: fifty
Roy Braud: are all things, of course,
Robert Bennett: mm.
Roy Braud: to remember with the budget and when you design to materials, cost, etcetera. Now, uh the
Robert Bennett: Oops.
Roy Braud: discussion I guess is um does anyone of you have experience with remote control?
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Roy Braud: I
Delbert Story: of
Roy Braud: exp
Delbert Story: course,
Roy Braud: I
Delbert Story: using
Roy Braud: s
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: 'cause
Delbert Story: remote
Roy Braud: we we
Delbert Story: control.
Roy Braud: use 'em we use
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: 'em, right, everyday. And um now having used a remote control for years does anybody already have like an idea like things you didn't like with it, things you would like to change, things you would like to improve with this thing ye any first ideas? Would you like it to be smaller,
Delbert Story: Uh.
Roy Braud: bigger,
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah,
Roy Braud: have
Floyd Ruiz: I
Roy Braud: more have more buttons on it or maybe clearly better marked buttons, you know, things
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: like that?
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Floyd Ruiz: Yes, I I feel that all the remote should be very compact.
Roy Braud: Small, right.
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah those,
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Floyd Ruiz: which we get here nowadays it's very long.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Floyd Ruiz: And um and it should have multi-purpose. Like uh the remote control which we use for T_V_, it shou uh it should be used f uh for some other purpose also, like controlling the
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Floyd Ruiz: uh
Delbert Story: Audio
Floyd Ruiz: temperature
Delbert Story: player.
Floyd Ruiz: inside
Delbert Story: Oh.
Floyd Ruiz: the house or
Delbert Story: Okay.
Floyd Ruiz: for air-conditioners, or for heating system.
Roy Braud: So it should be a multi-functional
Floyd Ruiz: Yes,
Roy Braud: uh
Floyd Ruiz: exactly
Roy Braud: gadget that
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: would
Delbert Story: Hmm.
Roy Braud: um control all your household uh
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: uh
Delbert Story: Divides
Roy Braud: machines
Delbert Story: us
Roy Braud: basically.
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah. Exactly.
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Robert Bennett: At um twelve fifty Euros per
Roy Braud: Well.
Robert Bennett: Well who knows if we get a really good designer maybe we
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Robert Bennett: can do that. We certainly can try to I agree with her that to market something successfully it should do some more things.
Roy Braud: It should be something new it should be s it it should do something different than than just what
Robert Bennett: That's
Roy Braud: we have.
Robert Bennett: right.
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Roy Braud: Now,
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah.
Roy Braud: of
Delbert Story: of
Roy Braud: course,
Delbert Story: course.
Roy Braud: the other thing to think there is maybe the design.
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah, design should be, yeah it should be different. All the almost all
Roy Braud: Like
Floyd Ruiz: the
Roy Braud: trendy no like
Floyd Ruiz: remotes
Roy Braud: f for earlier we saw maybe it should be something trendy you know.
Delbert Story: Yeah
Floyd Ruiz: Yes,
Delbert Story: maybe,
Floyd Ruiz: exactly.
Roy Braud: Maybe
Delbert Story: ten
Roy Braud: it should
Delbert Story: I
Roy Braud: different colours
Delbert Story: do yeah, colours
Roy Braud: or materials
Floyd Ruiz: Are
Delbert Story: and
Floyd Ruiz: different
Delbert Story: al shapes
Floyd Ruiz: shapes.
Delbert Story: also.
Roy Braud: or
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: you
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: know. Um so yeah shapes right, you know, like kidney shape feels
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: better in your hand or something,
Delbert Story: Yeah of
Roy Braud: you
Robert Bennett: Yeah
Roy Braud: know.
Delbert Story: course
Robert Bennett: okay,
Delbert Story: yeah.
Robert Bennett: friendly shape,
Roy Braud: Yeah.
Robert Bennett: that would help. I think another thing that would help is
Roy Braud: Yes.
Robert Bennett: um if it beeps when you clap, because I think one of the big things that happens is people lose them. They can't find it.
Roy Braud: That is true, because they put a newspaper or they put it behind
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: a plant or, we you know, whatever.
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: And and they suddenly the phone rings and they want to turn the T_V_ off and they say, where the hell is my my remote control yeah?
Robert Bennett: So
Roy Braud: Well
Robert Bennett: some
Roy Braud: or yeah or if it's really, if it's really in a dark spot that it gives out a a sound
Delbert Story: Yeah, some
Roy Braud: or a signal.
Delbert Story: beep
Robert Bennett: Uh so,
Delbert Story: or something
Floyd Ruiz: Or a
Roy Braud: Yeah.
Floyd Ruiz: b
Delbert Story: like that,
Robert Bennett: so
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Delbert Story: so
Robert Bennett: it's
Delbert Story: that
Robert Bennett: really
Delbert Story: we can
Robert Bennett: the
Delbert Story: go
Roy Braud: So
Robert Bennett: beep
Roy Braud: if
Robert Bennett: or,
Roy Braud: lost
Robert Bennett: or a light should blink.
Roy Braud: If lost
Floyd Ruiz: Should
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Floyd Ruiz: ha
Roy Braud: uh
Floyd Ruiz: A
Roy Braud: signal
Floyd Ruiz: fluorescent
Roy Braud: with
Floyd Ruiz: signal,
Roy Braud: b
Floyd Ruiz: yeah.
Roy Braud: throw
Robert Bennett: Mm
Roy Braud: signal,
Robert Bennett: 'kay.
Roy Braud: you know.
Delbert Story: Yeah, maybe it should have a light so that we can, we can just recognise where it is.
Roy Braud: Exactly,
Delbert Story: Yeah, yeah.
Roy Braud: I mean just
Delbert Story: May not
Roy Braud: that's
Delbert Story: be
Roy Braud: what
Delbert Story: beep.
Roy Braud: I'm saying. I'm just saying throw signal meaning just whether it's a beep
Delbert Story: Beep
Roy Braud: or whether
Delbert Story: or uh it's
Roy Braud: a
Delbert Story: a
Roy Braud: light
Delbert Story: light,
Roy Braud: or
Delbert Story: maybe
Robert Bennett: And do
Delbert Story: it's
Robert Bennett: you think
Delbert Story: a light.
Robert Bennett: a good c c um clue for that is that it would respond to a clap or it would respond to your voice or it would respond what what should you have to do to make it beep or blink?
Roy Braud: Okay, my my idea is maybe that the minute it's really hidden, in in other words if it's like in a dark spot,
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: uh meaning you know like a newspaper is on top, a sweater is on top or
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: it it's behind a plant, at that moment it's it's like, it's like um, what you call it a light s sensors, you know?
Robert Bennett: Okay so
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Delbert Story: Yeah, probably
Roy Braud: I mean, that we can
Delbert Story: yeah,
Roy Braud: discuss
Delbert Story: probably
Roy Braud: that
Delbert Story: it's
Roy Braud: later,
Delbert Story: a yeah,
Roy Braud: you know.
Delbert Story: yeah.
Floyd Ruiz: Yeah. And uh
Robert Bennett: So the light sensor would activate the signal.
Roy Braud: That's right.
Delbert Story: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: You know there would be right you have to have some kind of sensor and I I think uh voice or clapping it's not specific enough. Uh I know there are the lamps and stuff, you know, you
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: can clap on and
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: off, but I think they only work to certain degree and
Robert Bennett: But it could be someplace really obvious and you still wouldn't be able to find it.
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Roy Braud: What
Delbert Story: of course,
Roy Braud: with
Delbert Story: that didn't
Robert Bennett: Well,
Floyd Ruiz: Then,
Robert Bennett: because
Floyd Ruiz: in that
Robert Bennett: you're s
Floyd Ruiz: case
Robert Bennett: because
Delbert Story: I i
Robert Bennett: you're
Delbert Story: we
Robert Bennett: silly.
Delbert Story: can't do
Robert Bennett: Because
Delbert Story: it.
Robert Bennett: people are silly.
Roy Braud: Oh yeah well, but then
Robert Bennett: I mean
Roy Braud: those
Robert Bennett: it could
Roy Braud: people
Robert Bennett: be on
Roy Braud: we can't help everybody.
Robert Bennett: well, i if it were like on top of your bookcase and you usually kept it on the coffee table um, you know,
Roy Braud: Okay
Robert Bennett: well
Roy Braud: we have
Robert Bennett: maybe we
Roy Braud: uh
Robert Bennett: have to move along,
Roy Braud: yeah,
Robert Bennett: okay.
Roy Braud: we have to move along, but I think we have some good
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Roy Braud: good points
Delbert Story: good point.
Roy Braud: to start with here. Okay, the next meeting will be in thirty minutes. I think you all did you get uh notices on your computer
Delbert Story: Robert Bennett
Roy Braud: for
Delbert Story: yeah.
Roy Braud: this? Okay so well, you got the notice
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: um uh. The working design, I guess that's the function I_D_ uh who is this? Delbert Story
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: That's you.
Delbert Story: Yeah, it's functional de yeah, exactly,
Roy Braud: Okay.
Delbert Story: technical.
Roy Braud: So, we looking for a working design when
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: we come back.
Delbert Story: Uh working design, yeah, it's it's uh mainly
Roy Braud: Then
Delbert Story: technical-functional design.
Roy Braud: And then the technical funct you are the technical
Delbert Story: Yeah, functional
Roy Braud: function, so
Delbert Story: design, and you
Roy Braud: so you are the working design. So you
Floyd Ruiz: Okay.
Roy Braud: have a working design and then a functional design. And the marketing manager is coming up with some user requirement specification, like friendliness, and what we just discussed in general. That would be your idea. And, of course, price. That it, that it, that the price is a good price.
Robert Bennett: Mm-hmm.
Roy Braud: I mean, the price is given, but, that was
Robert Bennett: We have to justify that
Roy Braud: That's
Robert Bennett: price
Roy Braud: right.
Robert Bennett: by having sufficient features to make it sell at that price.
Roy Braud: That's right. And, you know, specifi you you will get specific um instructions for that. I think that's the end of the show. Yeah. So um we have well, we have a twen two two two three minutes. Um any questions at this point? Or uh suggestions?
Robert Bennett: Mm.
Roy Braud: I think basically basically you will get instructions to work with and
Floyd Ruiz: Okay.
Roy Braud: if you have any questions
Delbert Story: Yeah.
Roy Braud: uh, uh I guess, you can uh
Robert Bennett: Okay, I think I have enough to think about 'til our next meeting.
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Delbert Story: Yeah, even
Robert Bennett: How about
Delbert Story: I have.
Robert Bennett: you people?
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Robert Bennett: Really?
Delbert Story: even I have,
Roy Braud: Mm-hmm.
Delbert Story: I
Robert Bennett: Okay.
Delbert Story: think, yeah.
Robert Bennett: 'Kay.
Roy Braud: Okay.
Robert Bennett: Alright,
Delbert Story: Yeah,
Robert Bennett: well
Delbert Story: so let's
Robert Bennett: uh
Delbert Story: see.
Roy Braud: Then uh we see you in about thirty minutes.
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Roy Braud: And see what we can come up with.
Delbert Story: Hmm.
Robert Bennett: Okay,
Floyd Ruiz: Okay.
Robert Bennett: very good.
Roy Braud: Okay?
Floyd Ruiz: Yes.
Delbert Story: Yeah. | The meeting opens with the group doing introductions by giving their name and role. Betty is Roy Braud, Francina is the user interface specialist, Eileen is Robert Bennett, and Jeanne is Delbert Story. Roy Braud tells them they will be designing a new remote control that should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. They will be concerned with functional, conceptional, and detailed design. To try out the whiteboard, each group member draws her favorite animal on the board. They discuss the project budget and then talk about their experiences with remote controls. They seemed to agree that the remote should be compact and have a multi-purpose functions. They also agree that it should do something different that current controls cannot do and that it should be made of different colors, materials, and shapes. They also discuss a way of helping people find the remote when it is lost- a signal, whether it is a beep or light. Then they close the meeting with Roy Braud going over the tasks they are to complete and telling them they will meet again in about thirty minutes. | 3 | amisum | test |
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